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Just an FYI for you guys if you dont know yet....I was emailed a promo offer from Eva Air that they have flights available from Manila-USA. One way is $345US, r/t is $575. You need to book by July 15 and travel from Sept. 1- Dec. 15, 2007. Not sure if you need to originate from Manila or not but check it out if your looking for a deal!
Ol' Timer
How about calling your #1 honeyko such that it appears that you are out of the country, when in fact you are not. Is there a way to accomplish this? I have some ideas, but I haven't yet tried them:
For example, if I use a roaming agreement with a US carrier, will my calls to Cebu show up on the receiver's phone as coming from the US, even if I am still in Cebu?
Could I accomplish this using Yahoo Voice, or a similar internet voice product, by using my laptop and a microphone? Is the connection stable enough to hold a clear conversation?
It seems that either way, one precaution is to make sure that you're making the call from a spot where there are no tell-tale background noises, like motorbikes or roosters, which I almost always hear when I'm on a call with a honey.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
To loco loco:
There are many report on sim card in this theard if you are not too lazy to do some search, sim card in pi is one of the cheapest in the world globe sime card is about 5 USD charge 100 peso is around 2 USD good for 30 min local call you should bring a used cell phone and unlock it at US and I just throw the sim card away went I leave Pi it is only good for 2 month unless you keep recharge the sim, there are global recharge every where in manila even the seven eleven got them.
Fast eddie 48
A roaming agreement/sim card from a US carrier would probably show up as the US number on the receiving phone. The only catch would be that it'the be a costly call.
Alternatively you can see if you can get caller ID blocking on a local number, which makes your calls appear as an unidentified or blocked number, but I don't think this option is available for prepaid cards, only for contract cards. And you'll have to 'prime' her up to think that your blocked number is your non-local number.
How about calling your #1 honeyko such that it appears that you are out of the country, when in fact you are not. Is there a way to accomplish this? I have some ideas, but I haven't yet tried them:
For example, if I use a roaming agreement with a US carrier, will my calls to Cebu show up on the receiver's phone as coming from the US, even if I am still in Cebu?
Could I accomplish this using Yahoo Voice, or a similar internet voice product, by using my laptop and a microphone? Is the connection stable enough to hold a clear conversation?
It seems that either way, one precaution is to make sure that you're making the call from a spot where there are no tell-tale background noises, like motorbikes or roosters, which I almost always hear when I'm on a call with a honey.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
There are many report on sim card in this theard if you are not too lazy to do some searchNot lazy Eddie, just that the sim card discussions here are not real conclusive.
Now I'm no cell phone guru, but it looks to me like many GSM phones sold in the US (or Europe) won't work in the RP even if you stick in a local SIM card, since the US networks operate at 1900Mhz (Europe 900) and RP uses 1800. I think this is probably built into the phone, rather than resident on the SIM card.
If this is correct, then you'll either need to have a tri-band phone (900/1800/1900) or else a 1800Mhz one which you could purchase in RP. And of course a local SIM card. I am leaning toward purchasing a phone and SIM card when I get to MNL.
If anyone knows that this is mistaken, please correct me!
Just an FYI for you guys if you dont know yet. I was emailed a promo offer from Eva Air that they have flights available from Manila-USA. One way is $345US, r/t is $575. You need to book by July 15 and travel from Sept. 1- Dec. 15, 2007. Not sure if you need to originate from Manila or not but check it out if your looking for a deal!Blatant discrimination! I see the MNL-SFO-MNL price of $575 on their website. But do it the other way around (SFO-MNL-SFO) and you get $1289 (SF-MNL one way is $819). This is bola bola!
How about calling your #1 honeyko such that it appears that you are out of the country, when in fact you are not. Is there a way to accomplish this? I have some ideas, but I haven't yet tried them:
For example, if I use a roaming agreement with a US carrier, will my calls to Cebu show up on the receiver's phone as coming from the US, even if I am still in Cebu?
Could I accomplish this using Yahoo Voice, or a similar internet voice product, by using my laptop and a microphone? Is the connection stable enough to hold a clear conversation?
It seems that either way, one precaution is to make sure that you're making the call from a spot where there are no tell-tale background noises, like motorbikes or roosters, which I almost always hear when I'm on a call with a honey.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Your phone may allow you to block your caller ID but if not, you can use Yahoo voice or Skype and it is $.20 per minute. The number will come up as unkown or private and you can tell them you're out of the country...
just use skpe as your nick comes up. for example my login on skpe could be "horny69" and thats what comes up on her mobile.
some handsets you can retrict your number but thats not 100% foolproof.
FreebieFan
07-03-07, 06:31
Ok. This is totally off topic but what the heck. So is the SIM card discussion. Anyways I'm a regular visitor to Manila and Makati and used to live there. Even tho I left four years ago I'm still lucky enough to have a little bit of a harem tho who I get to select from. Anyways have just made my selections for the next few days fun and all have confirmed.
And no, I'm not a super stud, just a nice 50 year old guy who treats girls well, only comes in their mouth when they say its ok (joke! ). And generally send them a few sms now and again. Anyways Thursday night is a gal from a call centre. Found her on the internet and we see each other every time I'm there (unless other distractions arise! ). Once had her legs wide open fingering her as we drove down Edsa.
Friday afternoon is a classy gal who is actually a doctor. Met her last trip I was there. We had a coffee together then a car ride to Sogo motel. During the coffee we had not talked about sex or the possibility. I just took the chance and she didn't say no. And she was cute underneath too.
And Saturday afternoon is a teacher. Shes engaged to some guy in the US (sorry guys) but shes always got time for me. Is prim and proper to look at but wild in the heat of battle. And brings her vibrator with her. Its almost as big as she is hahah! That leaves me with Sunday am to fill. Its a choice between a 22 year old I had sex once with 2 years ago but who always offers me more. Or a newbie from Sta Rosa who I met on Friendster. Sent her one email and a pic and her reply gives me her phone no and she says " if you pick me up then we can go to your place. ". Damn I havent even said Hello, to her yet.
All these ladies are freebies of course. And Friday and Saturday nights are kept free for Burgos fun.
There are of course some plan be talent if needed including a few Burgos players but I prefer to find them free in Manila.
Ah. The good life beckons. And whats that smell. That would be the smell of pussy coming this weekend.
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i just had two freebies off AFF in Manila, one ok figure, one not as good but it was free.
Couldnt inititate any from the Cebu girls on AFF but mayybe looking for love instead.Im in BKK now so i say to all you phil lovers, look after all the fine pinoy girls for me. hope to be in Novemberish
Great post FreebieFan. I'd love hear more detailed stories about how you met some of these gals.
I'll be in PI next week and I'm wondering how things will go with some of the regular girls I had in the past. I'm hoping things will pickup right where I left them, but they may be more wary this time. And do you give each lady only one day/night? How many different SIM cards are you using!
Anyway, thanks for the interesting post.
X Man
Ok. This is totally off topic but what the heck. So is the SIM card discussion. Anyways I'm a regular visitor to Manila and Makati and used to live there. Even tho I left four years ago I'm still lucky enough to have a little bit of a harem tho who I get to select from. Anyways have just made my selections for the next few days fun and all have confirmed.
And no, I'm not a super stud, just a nice 50 year old guy who treats girls well, only comes in their mouth when they say its ok (joke! ). And generally send them a few sms now and again. Anyways Thursday night is a gal from a call centre. Found her on the internet and we see each other every time I'm there (unless other distractions arise! ). Once had her legs wide open fingering her as we drove down Edsa.
Friday afternoon is a classy gal who is actually a doctor. Met her last trip I was there. We had a coffee together then a car ride to Sogo motel. During the coffee we had not talked about sex or the possibility. I just took the chance and she didn't say no. And she was cute underneath too.
And Saturday afternoon is a teacher. Shes engaged to some guy in the US (sorry guys) but shes always got time for me. Is prim and proper to look at but wild in the heat of battle. And brings her vibrator with her. Its almost as big as she is hahah! That leaves me with Sunday am to fill. Its a choice between a 22 year old I had sex once with 2 years ago but who always offers me more. Or a newbie from Sta Rosa who I met on Friendster. Sent her one email and a pic and her reply gives me her phone no and she says " if you pick me up then we can go to your place. ". Damn I havent even said Hello, to her yet.
All these ladies are freebies of course. And Friday and Saturday nights are kept free for Burgos fun.
There are of course some plan be talent if needed including a few Burgos players but I prefer to find them free in Manila.
Ah. The good life beckons. And whats that smell. That would be the smell of pussy coming this weekend.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
FreebieFan
07-05-07, 01:13
Well, firstly it helps that I lived there before and its made even easier by the fact that I'm able to get there about every 8 weeks. Otherwise they would forget me. Theres a few others that I strong along and meet too now and again, but unless its a 100% score I don't want to bother with the wine and dine thing. Can eat and drink in Burgos if hungry or thirsty.
I'm not sure what the secret realy is. One is that I stay in contacat with them (ie record birthdays on my manila phone) and say Hi when appropriate. Chat on yahoo with them now and again. Ocassionally a friend will emigrate, and so once or twice I've asked if they have a friend in Mania who needs an ocassionally fun night and have had good repsonses.
Basically its about treating them right. Making them feel special. Making them feel that when I go to manila I'm only there for "them". Which we al know isn't true. Most times now I arrange to pick them up in Makati, drive to Sogo, have great sex and then drop them in Makati and go onto Burgos to replace lost fluids. I don't pay but ocassionally buy gifts like perfume or chocolate or give an old cellphone. All I know is that on each trip theres a good 7-9 ladies who will happily go to Sogo with me. But of course theres always the "chase". And thats as much fun. Will she won't she go to the motel with me.
As for SIMS'. Well I have one for work/home here where I live, one for play where I live, one for Manila. Have SIMS for all the other countries that I play in too. Ie HK Shanghai Jakarta etc. Its hard keeping up sometimes hahah. Anyways will make breathless Manila trip report next week and will no doubt be exhausted.
LoveAsianWhores
07-05-07, 05:44
Blatant discrimination! I see the MNL-SFO-MNL price of $575 on their website. But do it the other way around (SFO-MNL-SFO) and you get $1289 (SF-MNL one way is $819). This is bola bola!Not a good deal even if it was available for $575. Once you add the tax, it is about the same as Philippine airlines. But with PAL, it is no stop one way, and one short stop (without a change of planes) the other way. And remember, with each change of planes, the risk of lost luggage doubles. Happend to friend who came out here a couple of months ago and it really screwed up his trip.
North Neighbour
07-09-07, 01:20
Hi all,
Moving to Manila in September for an internship. It will be my first time in PI.
Just wondering if there's been any changes or word of changes since the new mayor was installed.
Thanks,
NN
Bill Buxton
07-09-07, 06:11
Not a good deal even if it was available for $575. Once you add the tax, it is about the same as Philippine airlines. But with PAL, it is no stop one way, and one short stop (without a change of planes) the other way. And remember, with each change of planes, the risk of lost luggage doubles. Happend to friend who came out here a couple of months ago and it really screwed up his trip.Philippine air is not the verry best way to go unless you worry about the money factor. They worry more about the CARGO than the passengers imho. Each of the mopes on the bird has 4-6-8-10 bags and I have no idea how the fucking thing even gets off the ground period. CATHAY is a nice ride and korean air is ok also. After you spent your time here who wants to travel 14 hrs on a plane with every seat wanting more rice and chants in TAGALOG.
Have a problem with a lost bag or a flight delay and see who gets upgraded or helped first! Not the guy with the white skinn. Thats why when I get to LAX I laugh at the PI airline mob. I would rather start the attatude process in manila not at LAX.
This has happened on several round trip flights sometimes one way but also on both ends in the same trip. Fuck them let them service there own after all they are adjusted to the typical "fucked up service " they get. When you figure the cost it's not that big of a difference anyway. Hell my wife hates her countries airline go figure.
B. B.
FreebieFan
07-09-07, 06:15
Well I had my weekend and I'm suffering from it now. At my desk and totally lethgargic. Went something like this.
Met freebie no 1 at her call center office Thursday night. Had some beers drove to Sogo. Little playing her tits but no entry to the pussy, in the car told me something wasnt right. Sure enough. She told me had just finshed her period. Anywys we had good but not wild sex. Drove her home. Which took hours. Normal crap traffic. Went to Burgos, and was lured into taking one gal to the VIP. Where she go nicely naked, l got me take a pic of two, sucked my balls nicely. And then went home.
Day two was cute gal from previous trip. Met her in Manila. What great legs she had. Very small but totally a great package. Went to Sogo. Didn't take long to get at it. Shes small and screams and moans so deep. Anyways at one point was fingering her quite hard. She arched her back in a perfect semicircle and the next thing I know I'm almost literally carrying her with two fingers in her pussy being how I did it. Was amazing. Thank god shes only 40kgs. Anyways had a long bath with her. The shower head made her come and come. She was so happy and so appreciative of our fun times together.
That night was in Burgos and lots of fun and very drunk.
Day 3 was a doctor lady. Shes only 4ft 11. Long long hair. Met and drove to Sogo (sounds like a theme right! ). Shes very caring and so she undresses me, massages me. Kept wanting to suck my dick but to be honest it was a little sore by now. Anyways we bang and bang. Bathe also, then sleep. Drop her early and head to Burgos. Another really fun night. Saw lots of old friends.
Anyways Day 4 I have to leave, . But had time for one more. Met a friend who I had met in HK before. She was happy to meet (right after church hahah). Went to Sogo again. Halfway though the gal stops. Says she can smell something. Asks me if my dick is clean. (romantic question right.). Then realises shes about to have her period and thats the smell. Apologises but goes to work on my sore dick. Had one final come. And drop her off in Makati. Realised I still had some time so had been exchanging sms with a cute but totally brainless Burgos gal. She was happy to meet. We met in Market Market. Told me her taxi was 50 peso. So I gave her 100 peso as taxi there and back and we went for a drive. Nice to drive around Bonifacio with my hands on this gals boobs and in her pants. She reciprocated but I was too spent to come any more. Anyways drops her off and she sends me happy and appriciative sms. And that was my trip to Manila.
Am now exhausted as I always am after Manila. Must be the air thats tiring. Hahahah.
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FireWalker
07-09-07, 11:29
Not a good deal even if it was available for $575. Once you add the tax, it is about the same as Philippine airlines. But with PAL, it is no stop one way, and one short stop (without a change of planes) the other way. And remember, with each change of planes, the risk of lost luggage doubles. Happend to friend who came out here a couple of months ago and it really screwed up his trip.
Number one, your friend is an idiot to check baggage. There is really no reason to bring anything but carry on.
Number two, some folks would rather not do 16 hours at a stretch. I'd rather do 13, have a break, smoke, then do the other 2.5. I'm out of Manila airport with my CARRY ON in ten minutes after getting off plane, while you guys spend an hour or so messing with baggage claim.
Number 3, EVA has a far better safety record than PAL
FireWalker
07-09-07, 11:32
Blatant discrimination! I see the MNL-SFO-MNL price of $575 on their website. But do it the other way around (SFO-MNL-SFO) and you get $1289 (SF-MNL one way is $819). This is bola bola!
Flying out of USA in Summer is always higher. It's family and amatuer time!
i know loveasian*****s is familiar with the travel industry but i think in this case you have to look at the deal itself. i lived in the pi for many years and have never, ever flown on pal for the very reason that they have a terrible maintenance record and although the direct flight is convenient, i would put my safety first and take the layover.
my cousin is a pilot and tells me on numerous occasions he's flown into sfo and saw the pal sitting at the gate so he knows they have engine problems and is waiting for maintenance to come and fix it. i'm really surprised americans would even consider flying pal unless they don't know about their record.
good luck if you choose speed over safety!
ol' timer
Hi,
Does anyone know the phone number for the Casino bar at the Edsa complex in Manila?
Thanks
i'm really surprised americans would even consider flying pal unless they don't know about their record.
good luck if you choose speed over safety!
ol' timer
i checked the faa database and it seems like pal has a pretty good record. i have flown them 12 times in the last two months and never (knock on wood) had a problem.
http://www.asias.faa.gov/pls/portal/!portal.wwa_app_module.accept
stay safe,
robb
checked the FAA database and it seems like PAL has a pretty good recordCouldn't get that link to work for me.
Airsafe.com lists 8 fatal accidents on PAL since 1970.. last one 1994.
http://www.airsafe.com/events/airlines/pal.htm
Flying out of USA in Summer is always higher. It's family and amatuer time!
Seems especially bad this year as most airlines aren't adding any flights and will just try to keep raising the price. There were some empty seats on NRT-MNL on Northwest the other day, though.
I usually play the frequent-flyer game and earn miles on domestic trips in the U.S. and redeem on biannual Asia trips. To get the 60K award in summer it usually takes a creative multi-city booking (so you can hit all segments with the award seats). People who call or check the website for straight round-trips are usually told all are gone unless they spend 50% or 100% more miles.
Bill Buxton
07-11-07, 20:18
Number one, your friend is an idiot to check baggage. There is really no reason to bring anything but carry on.
Number two, some folks would rather not do 16 hours at a stretch. I'd rather do 13, have a break, smoke, then do the other 2.5. I'm out of Manila airport with my CARRY ON in ten minutes after getting off plane, while you guys spend an hour or so messing with baggage claim.
Number 3, EVA has a far better safety record than PALSome people stay longer and have greater needs than just a carry on.Others stay longer than a week or two so that requires added bags.Others don't care if the price is 2-3 hundred higher if they get there when they want.
Each person can tailor his trip and spending as he or she likes if they have a plan.So I would say the IDIOT thing should never be included in the mix.I would not say that the guy that pays more,and has a suitcase is anything other than a traveler.Spend some time here and IDIOT is all around not just at the airport waiting for his bag.
Thats why some like a chevy and some a ford it's up to you!Do what you like who the fuck cares.I think the info here on airline travel should have a bloggg.Nice to see that some here are passing the word on discount prices when they see them.It all helps,it's just a guide use your head at all times.
B.B.
I usually play the frequent-flyer game and earn miles on domestic trips in the U.S. and redeem on biannual Asia trips. To get the 60K award in summer it usually takes a creative multi-city booking (so you can hit all segments with the award seats). People who call or check the website for straight round-trips are usually told all are gone unless they spend 50% or 100% more miles.
Yes I try to do the same thing but sometimes it is virtually impossible to get the 60k award to MNL. Seats are easier to reserve flying to HKG since there are more flights, which is what I end up doing. NWA has been getting flakey recently, so I expect the situation to get worse.
hi to all,
any news about LA cafe?? Im flyin in three weeks and first stop will be in Manila. Last time I made contact with some cuties over there and I hope its still open.
X man I read ur soon be there, please let us know if things still normal in ermita.
Btw last time I had great arabian fud there, you sit outside, watch the cute wetress and have delecious meal, they serve no alcohol there, but thats fine with me cause La cafe is just walkin distance. Nice place to bring ur gf there, you can sit outside and relax.
Its a side street between Mabini street and MH del pilar...walking distance from my hotel I stayed before (frendy hotel) Biggest rooms I saw for 1500 pesos.
I might stay there one more time or check in the bayview park, 50 US is a gud bargain including buffet breakfast.
Im exited again, guess Im viewing the forum evry day now before I fly.
Speaking bout airlines I come from Europe so I take Emirates which is a great airline, I can recomand. hey have an excellt FFlyer bonus system and a very gud service , allways on time, and if they start late they make it up in the sky.
Last time on my way back from Manila to Dubai they gave me upgrade and forget to deduct from my miles. I told them I sent email some days before to redeem my miles on an upgrade and havent heard from them, went straight to the business class check in. they upgraded me to business class. still got my miles :D
LoveAsianWhores
07-12-07, 16:40
Number one, your friend is an idiot to check baggage. There is really no reason to bring anything but carry on.
Number two, some folks would rather not do 16 hours at a stretch. I'd rather do 13, have a break, smoke, then do the other 2.5. I'm out of Manila airport with my CARRY ON in ten minutes after getting off plane, while you guys spend an hour or so messing with baggage claim.
Number 3, EVA has a far better safety record than PAL
I see your point on the change of planes, but personally, I just want to get from point A to point be in fastest time. I've done both several times, and it is the difference between a 13 hour direct flight and 16 hours of travel time or more, depending on the length of the stopover.
EVA has only been flying since 1991 and PAL has only had one person die since 1991, so I am not sure what you mean by a "far better safety record".
But I absolutely agree with you that my friend is an idiot for checking his bags. All those people lining up to check in bags; they're all idiots! I mean, what moron checks on bags. Just buy all your clothes and shoes for your three week trip in the Philippines. And my friend brings all his bulky camera equipment. He can just buy that here as well. Same with the liquid and gel toiletries. The only problem is the nail clippers and pocket knife. The trick is to wrap them in aluminum foil to beat the xray machines. If they happen to find them in a manual bag check and ask you why you are smuggling a knife on board, just shout "bomb" and in the confusion run. They'll never get you.
FireWalker
07-12-07, 21:06
Some people stay longer and have greater needs than just a carry on.Others stay longer than a week or two so that requires added bags.Others don't care if the price is 2-3 hundred higher if they get there when they want.
Each person can tailor his trip and spending as he or she likes if they have a plan.So I would say the IDIOT thing should never be included in the mix.I would not say that the guy that pays more,and has a suitcase is anything other than a traveler.Spend some time here and IDIOT is all around not just at the airport waiting for his bag.
Thats why some like a chevy and some a ford it's up to you!Do what you like who the fuck cares.I think the info here on airline travel should have a bloggg.Nice to see that some here are passing the word on discount prices when they see them.It all helps,it's just a guide use your head at all times.
B.B.
Maybe, I was a little harsh, but if I had a trip ruined by lost baggage, I would feel like an idiot. There may be some exceptions to people bringing baggage they have to check, but I am sure that most bring a lot of unnecessary things. What necessary items could you be bringing to Phils that would be necessary to check, besides scuba gear? Extra clothing/laundry service is cheap in the Phils. This post was in response to a guy saying that a friend had a trip ruined because of lost luggage on a two leg flight.
As far as my flight advice, I was pointing out that the added cost of a direct flight may not be a benefit for everyone. What is the benefit of taking a direct flight that puts you into Manila at 5-6am? My indirect flight puts me into Manila at 11:30 am and I am fully rested, my biological clock is set for Philippine time and I never have jet lag. I do this on 200-250 usd cheaper and on a safer airline. Sure, everyone can do what they like and everyone has different timelines, but sometimes people think that spending more is better.
FireWalker
07-12-07, 21:20
EVA has only been flying since 1991 and PAL has only had one person die since 1991, so I am not sure what you mean by a "far better safety record".
http://www.airsafe.com/events/regions/asia.htm
0 is a far better safety record than a bomb under a seat. I am not that paranoid, but saving money and flying on a zero rating is a benefit I have to support.
LoveAsianWhores
07-14-07, 08:09
Ok, I think we all made our point about airlines. I, like others on this board, am quite passionate about airlines. There are airlines that I love (cathay Pacific, Southwest), and those I hate (asian spirit, United, Northwest, Lufthansa). Based on your own experiances, you will have different opinions on particular airlines. Once I am burned by an airline, I never use them again unless absolutely necessary. If everyone did the same, there would be no bad airlines.
But back to the business of fucking, Philipines style.
Customers appeared particularly sparse on my last couple of trips to EDSA complex. Girls were not, resulting in some particularly good barfines. In fact, I have had three truly spectacular barfines from the complex in a row. Quite unusual, considering that I would only estimate that 1 in 4 barfines for me rate as spectacular. However, ALWAYS get there early. I recommend 8pm. The Japanese have a good eye for spotting the new talent and barfining them early.
Frequent Flier
07-14-07, 22:13
Ok, I think we all made our point about airlines. I, like others on this board, am quite passionate about airlines. There are airlines that I love (cathay Pacific, Southwest), and those I hate (asian spirit, United, Northwest, Lufthansa). Based on your own experiances, you will have different opinions on particular airlines. Once I am burned by an airline, I never use them again unless absolutely necessary. If everyone did the same, there would be no bad airlines.
Sorry I had to throw in my thinking on this and here is the saying I use in describing the airline and a few other industries.
It applies to Airline companies, Cell phone companies and television cable companies.
"They all suck, it's just on some days some suck worse than others."
FF
I have just come back from 3 weeks in phills, and spent my last 2 nights in Manilla. My favourite bar for girls was Stringfellows but the new mayor has banned them from having any go go girls, so the place was completley empty, except for a few watresses.
La Cafe which most times I have had some good looking girls from, was this time always full of the sort of girls that keep on pushing you to talk to them you know the not so beautifull ones's!
All the talk in the La Cafe is on the imment closure of the bar, the new mayor has told the press that the foreigners only come to the phillls for fucking the girls. In the end I went to edsa entertainment complex, where I found what I was looking for, (18-20 slim, no babies, just of the ferrry) but the prices are much higher than ermitta, as you end up paying 3-5000 peso including barfine, ladies drinks.
I think I will give manilla a miss next time, and go straight to ac, I just hope that new govenor in ac doesn't follow on from what this mayor in ermitta has done.
hi to all,
any news about LA cafe?? Im flyin in three weeks and first stop will be in Manila. Last time I made contact with some cuties over there and I hope its still open.
X man I read ur soon be there, please let us know if things still normal in ermita.
Btw last time I had great arabian fud there, you sit outside, watch the cute wetress and have delecious meal, they serve no alcohol there, but thats fine with me cause La cafe is just walkin distance. Nice place to bring ur gf there, you can sit outside and relax.
Its a side street between Mabini street and MH del pilar...walking distance from my hotel I stayed before (frendy hotel) Biggest rooms I saw for 1500 pesos.
I might stay there one more time or check in the bayview park, 50 US is a gud bargain including buffet breakfast.
Im exited again, guess Im viewing the forum evry day now before I fly.
Speaking bout airlines I come from Europe so I take Emirates which is a great airline, I can recomand. hey have an excellt FFlyer bonus system and a very gud service , allways on time, and if they start late they make it up in the sky.
Last time on my way back from Manila to Dubai they gave me upgrade and forget to deduct from my miles. I told them I sent email some days before to redeem my miles on an upgrade and havent heard from them, went straight to the business class check in. they upgraded me to business class. still got my miles :D
FreebieFan
07-16-07, 04:59
Yeah. Theres no posting in the Makati board hence this post here. Was in Manila last weeeknd and did my normal Makati Burgos thing. (no point posting in Makati baord. No one replies etc) Some bars are always good, some are just weird. Blush was a weird one. Al the gals there are 30A cup. Nothing to look at despite the fact there was 30 girls. But wowowow was the strangest. Some ok girls but most are sleazy. They get their tits out if you smile at them. Anyways on first night there. Theres a Filipino family there. Including the 8 year old daughter! Then in comes another family, mom dad and the two young boys. Maybe early teens. The dad was happy when one gal stuck her tits in his face and wrapped her legs around his neck. Next day I'm sitting at the bar quietly fingering one gal. When in walks this giant black guy. My gal (the one on the end of my finger) says its the owner. He was 6. Ft 3. Looked like Shaft. Bald head etc. He walks in bar, looks around. , theres a Russian looking guy with him. And some Chinese guy with him holding a briefcase. The black guy had a limited vocabulary. Every other word was "fuck". All the girls looked at him with that look that Filipinas have that says. "yes your the owner but we hate you". Was a strange place.
Anyways yeah I know that all the Malate stuff will close. The question is where will it relocate too. Not enough business in Makati. So will be interesting if a new place is made.
Fastpiston
07-16-07, 08:18
Yeah. Theres no posting in the Makati board hence this post here. Was in Manila last weeeknd and did my normal Makati Burgos thing. (no point posting in Makati baord. No one replies etc) Some bars are always good, some are just weird. Blush was a weird one. Al the gals there are 30A cup. Nothing to look at despite the fact there was 30 girls. But wowowow was the strangest. Some ok girls but most are sleazy. They get their tits out if you smile at them. Anyways on first night there. Theres a Filipino family there. Including the 8 year old daughter! Then in comes another family, mom dad and the two young boys. Maybe early teens. The dad was happy when one gal stuck her tits in his face and wrapped her legs around his neck. Next day I'm sitting at the bar quietly fingering one gal. When in walks this giant black guy. My gal (the one on the end of my finger) says its the owner. He was 6. Ft 3. Looked like Shaft. Bald head etc. He walks in bar, looks around. , theres a Russian looking guy with him. And some Chinese guy with him holding a briefcase. The black guy had a limited vocabulary. Every other word was "fuck". All the girls looked at him with that look that Filipinas have that says. "yes your the owner but we hate you". Was a strange place.
Anyways yeah I know that all the Malate stuff will close. The question is where will it relocate too. Not enough business in Makati. So will be interesting if a new place is made.
If Makati is dead, I would not be surprised at the crazy prices they charge. I never even bother to go there. Even years ago, I only did sneak-outs from the bars there.
I have just come back from 3 weeks in phills, and spent my last 2 nights in Manilla. My favourite bar for girls was Stringfellows but the new mayor has banned them from having any go go girls, so the place was completley empty, except for a few watresses.
La Cafe which most times I have had some good looking girls from, was this time always full of the sort of girls that keep on pushing you to talk to them you know the not so beautifull ones's!
All the talk in the La Cafe is on the imment closure of the bar, the new mayor has told the press that the foreigners only come to the phillls for fucking the girls. In the end I went to edsa entertainment complex, where I found what I was looking for, (18-20 slim, no babies, just of the ferrry) but the prices are much higher than ermitta, as you end up paying 3-5000 peso including barfine, ladies drinks.
I think I will give manilla a miss next time, and go straight to ac, I just hope that new govenor in ac doesn't follow on from what this mayor in ermitta has done.Hi,
Thanks for the info. I fly in about 2 weeks and I stay at least one or two nights over there to meet up friends etc.
I have to admit that Im also one of the foreigners who wnt there to f.. filipinas (LOL) very funny this mayor, if Ermita is dead again, people might consider him not to elect him any more, but thats not my problem,PI wont change a thing, will never be well developed and wont ever get off those very korrupt politican. Smart pinoys leave the counrty allready and so the potential that things might change is gone.
There is a huge demand of callcenter employees all over the Pi, but companys get fed up with applications, cause most of the people who apply fail easiest tests , compared to driver license tests. In other words, those who apply there are f..stupid (not all but most of them) So before closing things and being the moral apostel of the PI, he should consider that.
Congrats also that he really say that all the foreigners go there just for f...in..that would really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off if I would invest some money in PI(and as you can see my few lines off topic here Im pissed off allready :D)
Anyway Im looking forward to have fun and yes Edsa will be ok if evrything is closed in Ermita you can allways get lucky there.
Happy hunting
Blink
If Makati is dead, I would not be surprised at the crazy prices they charge. I never even bother to go there. Even years ago, I only did sneak-outs from the bars there.When business is slow, they raise prices to make up for it. It's a different business model.
When business is slow, they raise prices to make up for it. It's a different business model.
Good thing,
raise prices to attract more customers!!! Brilliant idea!! I mean fxxk those idiots who study economic for many years, cause in the Phils bars knows how to run business and make a profit LOL
Why not change peso prizes to Dollar prizes. Example, one LD in Makti is then 350 US $.
Ok, quite expensive, but those minority of guys who wil go there and pay it , Well, dont need many of them for sure, but bars will make a hell of a money LOL
If this was off the topic, sory then :D
Happy hunting!!!
11 days to go!!
Blink
Sorry guys, I have been here in the PI for three months and I haven’t been posting too much. If you read my past posts, you will see that I got burned, by someone on here.
I will try again. I met this girl on a Sunday afternoon in LA Café last month. We played pool and chatted for about three hours. I really didn’t think anything about her, because I was talking to another girl. Finally, we starting talking about going to my room and she wanted 2000P and I agreed.
We went to my room and she was dead! Covered her face with the pillow and wasn’t into it. No harm, no foul, back to the Café! We went back and played pool and had a drink together and after about one hour she asks me if I want to go back to my room again. Me being honest, I told sorry, but I just didn’t feel anything from her. She asked me to give her a second chance, no charge, so I did!
Second time around she turned out to be a tiger! One of the first Filipina’s that I have been with that has a great ass. She really enjoys doggie.
Professional
07-26-07, 11:18
Is she in Manilla or in Angeles... ?
And what about that ass. Pictures?It said LA Cafe so I would think Manila.
Captain America
07-27-07, 03:52
Well, maybe it is time for a change in scenery and some of the ladies have moved on. Was in Manila a couple of weeks ago and LA Café certainly has slowed down in terms of nice looking girls. I remember having a dozen or so to pick from in the past without ever even going upstairs, now I had to circle 2-3 times before finding a likely friend for the night. Not surprisingly, that lowers the quality a lot and so I only had one good session after lunch with Sandy. O.K. looks, but agreed to all my requests and very enthusiastic. On the opposite and of the scale was Gloria (?) from Cavite. She says she comes in for the day 2 or three times a month. All hot in the bar and then we get to the hotel it's all NO'S from there. Barely got a BBBJ instead of CBJ and she blew my mind when she wouldn't do doggie. Explained I was not after her ass, but no dice. finally unloaded on her face, ooops, honey! that was another no-no.
Also seems like they going rate is going up. Used to be 1500 was overnight with everything included, now they're quoting 2-3k for ST. Maybe just trying to make as much money as they can before the mayor shuts them down.
Nobody there last night, 10pm. Headed to LA Cafe. Took cutie Catherine, all night, demure in bar but enthusiastic in room. All night, pop in evening and morning, took her to breakfast, 2K as agreed plus taxi tip. Sweet. Sometimes the mongering is good.
Bad Boy Billy
07-27-07, 12:57
Guys help me if you can - I have a 15 hour layover in Manila on August 19 and have never been in Manila in my life.
I have the 'ladies' all arranged but have no idea which hotel to stay in.
Suggestions please on 5 star hotel close to airport?
$$$'s not an issue.
Thanks in advance.
Guys help me if you can - I have a 15 hour layover in Manila on August 19 and have never been in Manila in my life.
I have the 'ladies' all arranged but have no idea which hotel to stay in.
Suggestions please on 5 star hotel close to airport?
$$$'s not an issue.
Thanks in advance.I recoment the hyatt & casino as it is sort of close to airport 30-45 min drive friendly clean and nice showers.
Have fun my friend
Guys help me if you can - I have a 15 hour layover in Manila on August 19 and have never been in Manila in my life.
I have the 'ladies' all arranged but have no idea which hotel to stay in.
Suggestions please on 5 star hotel close to airport?
$$$'s not an issue.
Thanks in advance.
BBB -
I think your best bet is to stay in Makati. It's approximately 15-40 mins away from the airport (depending on traffic). There are a few 5 star hotels in Makati. Here’s a few names. Google their names so you can get more info about them.
1) Renessaince Hotel
2) Shangri-la Hotel
3) Dusit
Good luck,
BS
Malate, Pearl Manila this time, then Bayview. First night picked up gal from LA Cafe, nice service, all-nighter.
Second night meet with online gal. Had only spoken to her a few times, seemed friendly-only online. Turned out another hottie pilipina. We had dinner at Havana Cafe in Adriatico, then over to Bedrock bar for rock bands and drinks. About midnight I tell her that I'm tired, want to head back to my hotel. She said lets go, jumped into the taxi with me and went right to the room and showered. Hot night, hot morning. She never mentioned going home the next morning so we had the hotel buffet. Went shopping, and late lunch. She asked to go home in the late afternoon, promising to return around 6pm, and she did. Bars, baywalk, restraunts. Fourth day now, I met her cousin and the three of us have gone out twice (two hotties!!). Not a mention of money. I purchased a pair of shoes at the mall (twice), total about $12, for her. Never had this pleasant, inexpensive experience before. She leaves each day for 2-3 hours to go home and change. The best part? She doesn't talk all the time. So far, so good, two days to go.
Frequent Flier
07-30-07, 19:06
Guys help me if you can - I have a 15 hour layover in Manila on August 19 and have never been in Manila in my life.
I have the 'ladies' all arranged but have no idea which hotel to stay in.
Suggestions please on 5 star hotel close to airport?
$$$'s not an issue.
Thanks in advance.
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Paste and copy the above to your internet browser.
This is close to 5 star, but not a 5 star hotel. That said, the hotel is clean, the food is good. Room service is good as well. It is very close to the airport and it with stood a small tremor during one of my stays there a few years ago quite well.
Also, if for some reason the ladies you have lined up do not work out, you can make an excuss for them to leave and go across the street to EDSA plaza. There you will have hundreds of girls to choose from that are waiting to be your next date.
I have stayed at the Heritage as well as the New World Renissaince ( a marriott property) and many other 5 star hotels in the Manila/Makati area and based on your criteria I would stay at the heritage.
Good Luck.
FF
FF
Shall we assume you're doing body language when you arent talking or buying shoes? Hope you can give us some extra stategy details. Pictures too!
Have fun RgBrn
The best part? She doesn't talk all the time. So far, so good, two days to go.
I'm flying into and staying in Manila for a few nights then have to go to a city called Calamba. I can't seem to find any information on this city. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel in or near near this city?
Thank you!
I went over to LA Cafe today. I see no slow down with the new (old) mayor back in power. I picked up Kim for 2000P, 23, 1 baby that is 3 years old. She was true GFE and really got into it, or put on a good show.
Duh,
Go to google, type im Calamba. It took be 5 seconds to find these two sites.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calamba_City
http://www.hoteltravel.com/philippines/laguna/rockpoint.htm
I'm flying into and staying in Manila for a few nights then have to go to a city called Calamba. I can't seem to find any information on this city. Can anyone recommend a nice hotel in or near near this city?
Thank you!
Robbaf I'm with you on LA Cafe. Picked up cutie Catherine there about a week ago and she was great in and out of the room, all night and morning. Plenty of cuties who will spend the night for 40-50 clams.
Xman no particular stragegy here, just luck. Had a friends-only relationship online with the girl, then when we met she stuck herself to me about 22 hours a day. The only problem? She's one of those rare people with a huge appetite, and we were tagging it 3/4+ times a day. Quickly wore me out each day and she was up for more (every man should have it this bad). I've got to get better vitamins. In between it was malls, strolling, restraunts. I paid her way the entire 6 days together, a few small purchases for gifts totalling about $20. Yesterday on the way to the airport in the cab I snuck 2K pisos in her back pocket as a gift. Now that I'm home in Calif I get an email from her wishing that I had not given her any money. Sometimes you just can't GIVE YOUR MONEY AWAY. Great girl. Again, pure luck.
Went back to the Cafe yesterday and met Amy, 19 (running 20.LOL). Upon arriving I had three girls (4 or5's) jump on me and wouldn't leave me alone until`I said point blank, NO thanks. She was very shy in the cafe, but once in my room, she showed that she likes to have sex. She weights about 44K and she is a 34C cup (nice), 2000P and no problems for pictures. After the first pop and shower she asked for second pop. I had a business meeting so I had to pass.
Soju Lizard
08-05-07, 15:52
I hit both La Cafe and Amazonia back in May and no FL quoted me more than 1200 for a ST. Many were more than willing to go for P500. FL's aren't my thing coz of the lack of medical checks so I didn't go with any of them but I can't believe the prices you are quoting below for girls in that area. I even had a pair of cuties that wanted to go together for P1000 each.
BF's in EDSA are only P1200 - 1500 and even in Makati, BF's for the Wild West Group bars is only P1900 so why would anyone pay 2-3000 for a ST with a FL that has no med checks and gives you no recourse if they rip you off? If a bargirl rips you off, you have some recourse with the management in the bar she works.
If FL's are your thing and they are asking those kinds of prices, be aware that there are much better (and cheaper) options. Negotiate and never pay a FL more than a BG would get.
Also seems like they going rate is going up. Used to be 1500 was overnight with everything included, now they're quoting 2-3k for ST. Maybe just trying to make as much money as they can before the mayor shuts them down.
Hi,
Im back now in PI and have some time to give some updates from my Manila trip.
Stayed in Hotel frendy, MH del pilar. Ermiita, paid 1800 p with real big room. I can say u get the most there for ur bucks.
Had some trouble with money changer, avoid the first money changer (2 old ladies) right besides Hotel frendy. They rip you off. I chnaged 100 euro and she gave me chnage for 50 euro ,ahahhaha, funny......but it worked on me, after jet lag beers etc u dont concentratre that much, after I realized the scam, I goy hotel security and I got my real exchange rate from her.
This money changer needs to be closed.
With regards to the new mayor, lights at manila bay are out, no more bands no alcohols and evrything closed after 10pm.
La cafe is still operating, seems for me no change yet.
Avoid those horse drivers at manila bay. If you like to do it ask price first. they wanted me to charge 2500p for 2 1/2 hours. I just had 1k with me and abit more, thats all what they got. I think he put a spell on me and my future children and grandchildren, but I dont care, ehhehehehe.
So, only take the cash with you you wanted to spend, thats how you avoid rip offs, pocket snatchers or other things.
More to come...
Happ hunting
Blink
Had some trouble with money changer, avoid the first money changer (2 old ladies) right besides Hotel frendy. They rip you off. I chnaged 100 euro and she gave me chnage for 50 euro ,ahahhaha, funny......but it worked on me, after jet lag beers etc u dont concentratre that much, after I realized the scam, I goy hotel security and I got my real exchange rate from her.
This money changer needs to be closed.
Next time you need to change money while in Ermita, try Edzen's on Mabini St near Pedro Gil St. Yellow sign on the side of the street toward the bay. I've changed large amounts of dollars there without a problem. Even the locals know this place.
Guys,
Just a quick qustion? Do the models/girls of Stardust and Airforce1 get available for Barfine, and if so then for how much? I'ld really appreciate all info on these clubs.
Although I have lived in Manila for about 1 year in 2004 and liked gals of these clubs but never tried for barfine as I was not sure whether this term exist in these clubs like in Burgos bars or not. I will fly from LA on 15th Aug and will stay there for 10-15 days, so if you guys looking for some company on club tour or for a beer, plzz lemme know.
Just a quick qustion? Do the models/girls of Stardust and Airforce1 get available for Barfine, and if so then for how much? I'ld really appreciate all info on these clubs.
I have never asked if the clubs offer take out, but I have got cell # of a couple of good girls and they have come to my hotel and spent the night. They want 4000P for all night. One girl there was adding her number to my cell as I was geting dressed and she bugged me for 30 days to take her out for the night. But I told her that she was very shy in the club and I didn't want to pay all night for a shy girl. She promised that she wouldn't be shy, but I have been there and done that.
Also FYI, when I go to AF1, I like to go Business Class and I have taken three girls from upstairs to downstairs, because I like the room. All three told me that they didn't know how to massage yet.
Last time that I was there (Jul) I had already checked into the airport and then got a taxi to AF1 to kill three hours (had the taxi wait) and I asked the papa who was the best. He recommended #140 and she was without a doubt the best that I have had there for sex. No GFE, pure business. She really knew what to do and isn't shy.
Have a nice flight!
Robb
EDSA girl...Not as proactive as I would have liked, but something really sweet about this one. She's of legal age, but too young and sweet to be a sex worker. Says she has a baby, but absolutely no indication of that...other than the ability to allow a man twice her size (and age) to repeatedly thrust his manhood into her tight little snatch at various times throughout the night and into the morning.
Blew me away when she asked permission at 10am if she could put her clothes on -- hmmm, maybe a bargirl strategy, but it worked. Good tip...
X Man
Captain America
08-08-07, 18:31
Soju Lizard,
your point is well taken Didn't mena to imply I actually apid those prices, just that their opening offer seemed to be getting higher. That usually means there are enough suckers around that are willing to pay...
First, I am not a sucker for paying 2000P for a freelancer. I have pulled 8 girls from LA Cafe in the last three months and I have always try to go get a girl who goes there once or twice a month. All of them that I have taken, except one, travel 4 to 5 hours to work one day because they need money. Since I am here for a year and I am not paying a 500 -1000 dollar plane ticket to get here everytime that I go to LA Cafe, I don't mind paying 2000P.
Second, I take care (tips) of the girls who work in the LA Cafe. I have had four of them ask me to take them out and they tell me if the girl is a regular or part-timer. I don't take them out, because I don't shit where I eat.
Third, I pulled this girl from EDSA for 1200P after going to the club five times before and she told me that she never barfines, only works for tips and drinks and she said that if she ever barfined, she would only go with me. I should of known by her saying that, not to take her, but 2am beer goggles and I was ready to go home. Honestly, I thought it was another girl, who was off that night. I had to leave early (7am) for work and I made a mistake (last time) and let her sleep while I was gone. I got her cell so I could make sure that when she woke up that she was gone. Now, she will not stop texting me that she is in love with me. I told her point blank that I have no feelings for her and that I am going back to America alone, and there is no way that she could love me after one night. Well, long story short, I have a 21 year old girlfriend, non-bargirl, that I have had from my arrival and I taken to ESDA before and this girl had met her, and my girl went again last Thursday with my friend and I, and this girl saw us together again and now she is even more sure that she loves me and doesn't care if I have a girlfriend. She wants to come to my hotel when my girlfriend is not there. I love the Philippines.
Moral to this story, I have never had a freelancer texting me that she is in love with me. I spend less money in LA Cafe, then I do in ESDA and I can play pool, listen to the band without a Momma asking for drinks.
Robb
AskMaverick
08-09-07, 02:21
Hi Guys,
I am writing to you on my firsttrip to manila. To tell u the truth, i should have come here long time back instead of wasting so much money in INDIA. It is heaven and thanks to all the detailed study and research undertaken by ISG members. HATS off to you all outthere.
My report:
Went to LA CAFE< a bit local did not like the situation. So decided to pounce on MISS UNIVERSE- HEAVENNNNNNNNNN...paid only 800peso in total with the most sexiest girl, only thing was that she was a single mom nevertheless, took her out for whole night for 2200pesos.
Second day proceeded to a place (VERY DESCREET) called Etopia, excellent girsl for a small price. TIP the manager there and u can enjoy upto 2 girls for 4000 pesos including drink, room ac, masagae and full service, pls choose girl number 32 and 80, they blwe me twice and i fell drop dead.
Have fun and be safe.
I hit both La Cafe and Amazonia back in May and no FL quoted me more than 1200 for a ST. Many were more than willing to go for P500.
SL:
Just 500 pesos for ST with a girl from LA Cafe? Fantastic! Damn, brother, I really admire your unbelievable negotiation skills! Tell me, how did you do that (do you look by any chance like George Clooney? :) )!?
Two weeks ago I had to struggle very hard to get ST for 1,300 pesos (starting point: 2,000 pesos!)! Folks, anybody with a similar experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels
The uglier ones will start at 500.
X Man
SL:
Just 500 pesos for ST with a girl from LA Cafe? Fantastic! Damn, brother, I really admire your unbelievable negotiation skills! Tell me, how did you do that (do you look by any chance like George Clooney? :) )!?
Two weeks ago I had to struggle very hard to get ST for 1,300 pesos (starting point: 2,000 pesos!)! Folks, anybody with a similar experience?
Cheers - Hesekiels
Oooooooh X, that's cold, but funny! Sad thing is you're right!
Ol Timer
Mofo Monger
08-11-07, 04:42
Gentlemen,
I'm an old Thai hand and am going to PI in a few weeks. Am very excited as this will be my first time to PI.
Am planning to fly into Manila, spend a few days there getting my pole waxed and then maybe going to Puerto Galera for scuba diving and more waxing.
Is this a good idea? Anywhere else I should check out (Cebu maybe?).
I've only got a week this time so where ever I go, it has to be quick and readily assesable.
Is there any area in Manila that resembles Soi Cowbay or Nana?
FreebieFan
08-11-07, 06:22
Hi there,
Was in Thailand last week and had wonderful times in Nana and Cowboy. Still got the great memories. Manila is quite different. Go to P Burgos and excercise some charm. You will find the girls are more shy than Cowboy and can't dance topless or bottomless (at least till after midnight) but they are more loving. Even if they are bargirls. Treat them right and they will give you their all. Go to EDSA Entertainment for a diffennt spni on things. Girls don't speak english as well as Burgos. But both places can be lots of fun. Enjoyment guaranteed. Like in Thailand, take the time to make the choice and then run with it for all its worth.
Is this a good idea? Anywhere else I should check out (Cebu maybe?).
I've only got a week this time so where ever I go, it has to be quick and readily assesable.
MM:
You might consider to go for 3 or 4 days to AC!? From Manila it is just a 2 hours ride by bus!
Have a great time!
Cheers - Hesekiels
email from her wishing that I had not given her any money. Sometimes you just can't GIVE YOUR MONEY AWAY. Great girl. Again, pure luck.I got this idea from a friend who had a similar experience where the girl did not want money, I guess they do want / need the money but do not want to be thought of as a hooker or "bought" or whatever. Anyways, just tell them that you really want to stay in touch with them and chat online etc but you realise that the cost of internet cafes every day is expensive for her so you are only giving her the money to pay for her future internet trips when she emails you, chats, calls etc. A nice face-saving gesture for all concerned :)
Guys,
Does anyone know the name of the hotel that is right at the exit of the airport? I come down the ramp to be picked up when I arrive and meet my ride and we go right past it as we leave. Landing in Manila at 11pm and catching another flight the next morning to Leyte. Other than the hotel I am asking about does anyone have any ideas as to a convenent hotel?
[color=purple]E, below it the web site. I stayed at the place last April. Nothing fancy, don't know if you'll have any WG around. I had my GF with me. The food sucks at the restaurant. For the short ride you will be jacked for 150php if you use them for pick up. I think it cost the same with the Nissan Taxi so just take them because you won't have to wait.
Manila Airport Hotel
http://www.airporthotelmanila.com/
RaZZoR
Guys,
Does anyone know the name of the hotel that is right at the exit of the airport? I come down the ramp to be picked up when I arrive and meet my ride and we go right past it as we leave. Landing in Manila at 11pm and catching another flight the next morning to Leyte. Other than the hotel I am asking about does anyone have any ideas as to a convenent hotel?
Web site says 5000 pesos. For about 80 to 100 US dollars you could probably get a room at Heritage, or 2500 pesos ($60?) a room at Copacabana. These two places are across the street from EDSA entertainment plaza, so you won't have to sleep alone.
These hotels are probably only 15 minutes from the airport. Copa had a fire in one of the upper rooms. The scars were easily visible from Roxas when I drove by in July.
X Man
[color=purple]E, below it the web site. I stayed at the place last April. Nothing fancy, don't know if you'll have any WG around. I had my GF with me. The food sucks at the restaurant. For the short ride you will be jacked for 150php if you use them for pick up. I think it cost the same with the Nissan Taxi so just take them because you won't have to wait.
Manila Airport Hotel
http://www.airporthotelmanila.com/
RaZZoR
Mofo Monger
08-22-07, 04:53
Gentlemen,
As I wrote earlier, I will be going to Manila for my first time. I was hoping if any of you generous kind souls out there can give me some numbers for one or two of your favorite girls (a picture would also be good). I promise to ask first before cuming on their tits, to take pics to share with the board and to pay the girls well. Oh and I also promise to slap them on the ass for you too.
Anyways, if you can help a Nubie Monger out, I'd wish good Karma for you.
gentlemen,
as i wrote earlier, i will be going to manila for my first time. i was hoping if any of you generous kind souls out there can give me some numbers for one or two of your favorite girls (a picture would also be good). i promise to ask first before cuming on their tits, to take pics to share with the board and to pay the girls well. oh and i also promise to slap them on the ass for you too.
anyways, if you can help a nubie monger out, i'd wish good karma for you.
sorry, maybe it's not the how you asked but the way you asked, maybe that’s why you didn’t get a response before. i don't think you will have too much trouble, but just remember be a gentleman to the ladies, if you treat them like a lady and not a wh*re you will have a wonderful time. don't worry, just read the board and you will do fine? start at la cafe first. if you're still having problems getting pussy or finding a girl that will let you blow your load on her susus, then let us know.
good luck.
razzor
below is something i think all first time mongers should know before they go to the pi.
these are two posts by a poster name corpsman on another board, he has lived in angeles city for more than 5 years:
some of this may sound extreme but it’s worth reading, because much of it is true
1-how to avoid getting beat up in angeles city
1) don't be friends, but be friendly to the trike drivers on the corner streets. i have given old shirts and food and pan de sal to trikes that have always greeted me in the streets and said hello to me. on a few occasions this has helped me when young filipinos punks were behind me talking shit and then i went over to the trike guys that knew me and told them what happened and they told those guys to not fuck with me.
2) carry pepper spray, this is legal and you can buy it in the sporting goods store on the ground floor of sm mall.
3) take a trike if you are drunk or if you don't feel good or you’re not up to speed because local filipinos are like predators and can sense weakness and will go after you if they see any angle to attack you on. they will follow you and beat the shit out of you. there is nothing you can do about this and don't think other foreigners will help you. they will be running for their life also and will not want to get involved.
3) pick up a rock and carry it in your hand. throw it at the first face that comes into knife wielding range (or better yet don't let him get that close). believe me if a young male filipinos comes up to you on the street at night he is not there to hang out with you and be your buddy. he is there to rob you and kick the shit out of you.
4) create a buddy system were a group of friends or expats can be called upon to help you home or walk you home or agree to meet together for each other’s protection. this local on expat shit is only going to get worse and not better. it is going to drive out many long termers here and they will head to pattaya like hundreds have already. remember that all these fights are 100% local pilipino on foreigners. foreigners do not come here looking for trouble and they don't expect to get punched for no reason walking down the street.
5) barfine early and eat early and head back home early. no sense walking the streets late at night with a girl. you are just asking for it. even though you can do this in other asian countries like singapore, japan, thailand, etc you cannot do it here in the philippines. these men are predators for your money and for a bite at your ass. all they have is their pride and they are just looking to prove something to their friends and possibly to the girl you’re with.
6) work out if you are going to be here long enough. start running or lifting weights. or do pushups do something anything to condition yourself at least a little bit. this will give you an edge in a fight. the problem is that there are so many foreigners here that look like shit and are out of weight that they are easy pickings compared to the young local punk who gets into scraps for a living.
7) pay the police to escort you home when you are barhopping. they will only be so kind to give you a lift for the right fee. guaranteed no problems with this security plan.
8) hire a body guard for 6,000 a month. the problem is that most guards are the perpetrators of violence on their bosses. they are involved in kidnaps and robberies unfortunately.
9) don't flash money or wear jewelry. when i'm in a bar i put my money down near my leg or to my side. i never put it in front of my face and count out 1,000 peso bills after another. remember that these girls can always call guys up and have them wait for you outside and set you up. it’s been done before.
10) filipinos and foreigners don't mix inside the bars. the girls become shy and stop dancing and feel out of place whenever filipinos come inside. the filipinos like to glare and intimidate filipinos inside bars and they like to start fights. so it’s best just to leave the bar when they come in. get your bill and just leave. sooner or later the bars will start catching on as to why business is sinking faster than a lead weight going to the bottom of the ocean. during the marcos days the bars demanded up front to see how much money they had on them before they went into the bars. they had to have a minimum of 1,000 and they would always keep tabs on their bills. some filipinos males have a tendency to leave when the tab gets high and will try to hustle a foreigner to pay it ( its been tried here in ac).
11)if there is a confrontation do all you can to avoid it. just walk away get into a trike and take off right away. or say to him “listen i will buy you a drink it is my fault" put the blame on you and assuage his ego and tell him how stupid you are and that you don't understand filipinos or their culture. this is almost a sure winner! they save face and you will save your face. that is all they are looking for anyways is to put you down and have themselves one up on you.
12) don't get so tanked up. switch from beer to gatorade to water and back.
there is safety in numbers, if you are a loner then get a trike. don't go with a girl if she appears to have a boyfriend hanging around the streets following her around. this is hard to do i know but better safe than sorry.
forget the disco's here unless you are in the military and you have ten friends in the special forces and you know how to fight and how to disarm a knife attack or ice pick.
2- dealing with filipino men
i would like to offer my own suggestions and opinions on what i have gathered over the years being here in the p.i. dealing with the males here. my experience ranges from knock down drag out fights a couple of times with them to having 5 of them as employees.
there are distinct social classes here in the p.i. and it ranges from the educated upper class filipinos with money that has nothing to do with the lower class philippine filipinos. they don't mix except maybe at family gathering if they are related and there is still anger and animosity towards those with money and those who don't have even if they are related to each other.
the tourists here on fields’ ave a.c. mostly deal with the low end of the filipinos male class and when they leave the p.i. they have an extremely negative view of filipinos in general.
when dealing with the lower class filipinos it is best not to get involved with them. they are very easily offended at any slight that they may perceive is being directed towards them and will react in violence. this is a macho hispanic culture for the most part.
stay away from filipinos who are drinking and politely refuse and just smile if they offer you a drink. sooner or later you will be the one who will end up paying the bill and it will be very hard to extricate yourself from this position one you have started it without offending them. filipinos have been known time and time again to kill close friends and relatives over just one insult during drinking sprees and hundreds of stabbings occur in drinking establishments over stares and misperceived threats or insults.
you may be the biggest man in the world and huge, but you will not win in a fight with 20 filipinos and you will lose and end up stabbed before it is over.
keeping away from drunk filipinos, and not engaging in hardcore staring at them and walking away from insults being hurled at you is not being a pussy in the p.i. it is called being smart and surviving to be able to get the hell out of here alive.
i have seen instances when the foreigner has done nothing whatsoever to warrant a jumping by 5 filipinos or getting sucker punched at night time and robbed. this is just anger spilling over and being directed towards the foreigner who is perceived to have an edge economically and with filipinos who want to leave this country and will go with any foreigner to achieve this.
remember you are here as well as i am, with our dollars and we are fucking their woman night and day, hundreds of times. this has been going on for hundreds of years through the spanish times and american bases and so on. this tends to build up a hatred and hostile attitude towards foreign males in general.
there are some of you who will say bullshit i fucked their sister or aunt or daughter and they don't care or they are happy that i'm fucking their sister, aunt, daughter or whatever and have never said anything to me about it. in their minds they hate you. you are a source of money for them and that is the only way they would ever tolerate you being with their woman and fucking them. and if you step out of line and hurt one of theirs or don't pay up they will kill you or at least beat your ass or try to find you and pay revenge on you.
a foreigner will never be a close friend to a filipinos as would another filipinos to a filipinos. you are a foreigner period. there are also those on this board who have tricked themselves or are in the delusion that they have close filipinos male friends. if you go to most expat locations outside of fields like la union, subic, baguio, etc. the retirees stay amongst themselves and away from filipinos for good reason and you should ask them why, i did and i do not want to repeat what they told me because i would be flamed to hell and back. just too suffice it to say that they do it to stay alive and well in the p.i. and when they need a filipinos to do some job for them or whatever they have them do it and that is it. it ends there. no trying to be friends or best buddies because they know after years and years of living here the truth and how to relate to them.
some of you may say, wait a minute i was invited to party with my girlfriends family and i encounter no hostile attitudes and they were nice to me. yes of course they would not, that would kill the deal and money flow.
to sum up:
be friendly and smile to them. nothing wrong with just shooting the shit and saying hi how are you and so on. shaking hands goes along way also and buying a beer now and then, but not staying to join is a good idea.
don't engage in serious eye to eye contact as this is a serious threat to them and means war. sometimes you may get away with it but sooner or later it will catch up.
if you bump into one while walking best to say you’re sorry and smile and walk away. it’s not the right time to argue and shout as this will escalate the situation and the filipinos will lose face in front of his country men and will have to get it back by violence and others will help him get it back against you.
don't hit or shout loudly or call filipinas sluts and bitches in front of a group of trike drivers or males on the corner. not a smart thing to do. you should get your ass kicked if you’re doing this anyway.
don't push or shove people in the street. this is inviting trouble. keep your hands to yourself. i did this to a vendor once who was a little to aggressive and was surrounded by 20 of them in a new york minute and then i apologized and offered to buy him a beer and it was forgotten and settled. i could have been mister big man and taken on the vendor assoc, but i would have lost.
the fights that i mentioned that i was in earlier in my post was just plain survival and their was only two and it was at night and no other filipinos were around to help them not get their asses kicked. in that situation i used pepper spray and rocks. i'm in good shape and in my late 20's. i don't know if i would have done it again as one of them could have had a gun. most males who are of the street class carry something as a weapon, whether a ice pick, knife, homemade gun. you never know.
FreebieFan
08-23-07, 04:00
Interesting post about voilence in Angeles. Have only been there once so cant really comment.
I have however driven all round Philippines and never been involved in any type of voilence.I also lived in Manila for 5 years in an earlier life. Most I saw was lots of anger when driving over percieved errors or cutting in etc...
Maybe the voilence is just a Angeles thing, but I really havent seen any and never got into a fight or near one in my time there.. and I can be a dumb confrontational guy at times.
The answer tho is obviously to be aware at all times. Watch the front, watch the back..develop a strong sense of peripheral vision,,and when something doesnt look right it probalby isnt. Thats certainly saved me many times from potential issues, by walking away from possible trouble or taking an alternate route etc.
I was once in a long line of cars on Skyway. Then heard the sirens. The issue.. one guy had not let another car in where the skyways ends and lanes merge.. result being car 2's passener got out and shot the guy who wouldnt let the car 2 in. One driver dead. Amazing.
Is it Ceaser's at the Pan Pacific or another?
GoodEnough
08-23-07, 09:00
I agree completely with RaZZor. If you're new and you do not know the town, head to LA Cafe as your first stop. It's open all the time and there are women all the time, but it's probably best to go for your first time around 9 PM. At that hour, you're pretty much assured of a decent crowd, and you might even get a seat. By 10 you can forget sitting down because the place will generally be packed.
Stay in the downstairs bars for an hour or so. You will observe a constant influx (and some outflow) of women. Some will hit on you and some will wait for you to hit on them. Some may even shoot you down, but not many and not often. If, after an hour, you haven't found anyone to your liking, head upstairs, which will cost you Php100-150 depending on the day of the week. There's live music (often loud and lousy) in the bar to your left, which will fill up steadily after 10 PM or so. The bar to your right will also fill, but mainly with Koreans (who do not care how much they pay) and largely with girls working for the mamasans. I try to avoid this room.
In the unlikely even that you haven't found anyone after a couple of hours, you can exit LA, turn left, and walk 100 meters or so up the street to Amazonia, which is a bit like LA but never as crowded and not as large. However, you will probably be able to get a seat there and for sure, there will be women, but not as many. If you to not like it at Amazonia, leave, turn right, walk up to Padre Faura, turn right again, and walk about 300 meters to the G Point which is, I think, the nicest (though not the most crowded) bar in Ermita. The walk will take you no more than 5 minutes and it's perfectly safe. G Point has a small combo playing rock and roll and again, there are always women on the make hanging around. It's more laid back than LA and the service from the waitresses is much better.
If, after all this, you still cannot get laid, I suggest grabbing a taxi and taking the Php75 ride to Edsa Entertainment Complex, which has about 8 bars, all with P4P dancing girls. Pick one. Pay the Php1,000 bar fine (which does not include the girl's services) and leave.
I'm not going to give you any numbers because I never do, but following the itinerary outlined above is guaranteed to give you a good time on your first night.
GE
Some of this may sound extreme but it’s worth reading, because much of it is true
.Not! I lived a few blocks from Fields Ave for 6 years and walk around at night alone and feel safe. I've been coming to A. C. Since 1999 and have never seen Filipinos beating on foreignors. I've heard of couple hold-ups, but it seems a rare occurance to me. (But, the post is OK. As a retired expat I have no need for tourists anyway. LOL).
Is it Ceaser's at the Pan Pacific or another?I would say the ones in Quezon City.
Here is a link http://www.ktvphil.com/
I did not really like the scene in LA cafe and preferred to stick to EDSA and Burgos.
I posted a treat on the photo section about a quite nasty experience with 2 LA cafe girls.
I agree completely with RaZZor. If you're new and you do not know the town, head to LA Cafe as your first stop. It's open all the time and there are women all the time, but it's probably best to go for your first time around 9 PM. At that hour, you're pretty much assured of a decent crowd, and you might even get a seat. By 10 you can forget sitting down because the place will generally be packed.
Stay in the downstairs bars for an hour or so. You will observe a constant influx (and some outflow) of women. Some will hit on you and some will wait for you to hit on them. Some may even shoot you down, but not many and not often. If, after an hour, you haven't found anyone to your liking, head upstairs, which will cost you Php100-150 depending on the day of the week. There's live music (often loud and lousy) in the bar to your left, which will fill up steadily after 10 PM or so. The bar to your right will also fill, but mainly with Koreans (who do not care how much they pay) and largely with girls working for the mamasans. I try to avoid this room.
In the unlikely even that you haven't found anyone after a couple of hours, you can exit LA, turn left, and walk 100 meters or so up the street to Amazonia, which is a bit like LA but never as crowded and not as large. However, you will probably be able to get a seat there and for sure, there will be women, but not as many. If you to not like it at Amazonia, leave, turn right, walk up to Padre Faura, turn right again, and walk about 300 meters to the G Point which is, I think, the nicest (though not the most crowded) bar in Ermita. The walk will take you no more than 5 minutes and it's perfectly safe. G Point has a small combo playing rock and roll and again, there are always women on the make hanging around. It's more laid back than LA and the service from the waitresses is much better.
If, after all this, you still cannot get laid, I suggest grabbing a taxi and taking the Php75 ride to Edsa Entertainment Complex, which has about 8 bars, all with P4P dancing girls. Pick one. Pay the Php1,000 bar fine (which does not include the girl's services) and leave.
I'm not going to give you any numbers because I never do, but following the itinerary outlined above is guaranteed to give you a good time on your first night.
GE
I cannot comment on philippino guys in AC or the general security situation there, since I hate the place and never go there but in MNL I had a great time with some guys that I met trough work but also with guys that I met in the philipino bars/KTVs on Roxas or in QC. I am talking about uperclass establisments like East Asia etc.
Since an evening a such a place can easily costs 10.000P and more,these guys tend to be well educated and usually very friendly and open towards foreigners. Some might not like Yanks because of the political/historical context, but to an European like me most were either just polite and minding their business or very open and friendly and even offered some rounds of booze. I paid my rounds too of course, but fewer than I got from them.
Since westerners and Filipinos are usually not into the same kind of girls, there is little risk of getting into an argument about a girl with them, instead we had a good laugh about our differences in taste (LBFMs vs fair skinned and tall)
Of course I would not hang around with trike drivers etc at night.
So, yes the PI are more dangerous than most places in Asia but the Philippino people in general are one of the friendliest people I met so far. If you take reasonable precautions like having the mamasan call a taxi for you and not carrying lots of money or flashy jewelery you should be fine even quite drunk. Walking from Burgos to the nearby City Garden hotel has never been a problem.
Have fun
2- Dealing with Filipino men
I would like to offer my own suggestions and opinions on what I have gathered over the years being here in the P.I. dealing with the males here. My experience ranges from knock down drag out fights a couple of times with them to having 5 of them as employees.
There are distinct social classes here in the P.I. and it ranges from the educated upper class Filipinos with money that has nothing to do with the lower class Philippine Filipinos. They don't mix except maybe at family gathering if they are related and there is still anger and animosity towards those with money and those who don't have even if they are related to each other.
The tourists here on fields’ ave A.C. mostly deal with the low end of the Filipinos male class and when they leave the P.I. they have an extremely negative view of Filipinos in general.
When dealing with the lower class Filipinos it is best not to get involved with them. They are very easily offended at any slight that they may perceive is being directed towards them and will react in violence. This is a macho Hispanic culture for the most part.
Stay away from Filipinos who are drinking and politely refuse and just smile if they offer you a drink. Sooner or later you will be the one who will end up paying the bill and it will be very hard to extricate yourself from this position one you have started it without offending them. Filipinos have been known time and time again to kill close friends and relatives over just one insult during drinking sprees and hundreds of stabbings occur in drinking establishments over stares and misperceived threats or insults.
You may be the biggest man in the world and huge, but you will not win in a fight with 20 Filipinos and you will lose and end up stabbed before it is over.
Keeping away from drunk Filipinos, and not engaging in hardcore staring at them and walking away from insults being hurled at you is not being a pussy in the P.I. it is called being smart and surviving to be able to get the hell out of here alive.
I have seen instances when the foreigner has done nothing whatsoever to warrant a jumping by 5 Filipinos or getting sucker punched at night time and robbed. This is just anger spilling over and being directed towards the foreigner who is perceived to have an edge economically and with Filipinos who want to leave this country and will go with any foreigner to achieve this.
Remember you are here as well as I am, with our dollars and we are fucking their woman night and day, hundreds of times. This has been going on for hundreds of years through the Spanish times and American bases and so on. This tends to build up a hatred and hostile attitude towards foreign males in general.
There are some of you who will say bullshit I fucked their sister or aunt or daughter and they don't care or they are happy that I'm fucking their sister, aunt, daughter or whatever and have never said anything to me about it. In their minds they hate you. You are a source of money for them and that is the only way they would ever tolerate you being with their woman and fucking them. And if you step out of line and hurt one of theirs or don't pay up they will kill you or at least beat your ass or try to find you and pay revenge on you.
A foreigner will never be a close friend to a Filipinos as would another Filipinos to a Filipinos. You are a foreigner period. There are also those on this board who have tricked themselves or are in the delusion that they have close Filipinos male friends. If you go to most expat locations outside of fields like La union, Subic, Baguio, etc. the retirees stay amongst themselves and away from Filipinos for good reason and you should ask them why, I did and I do not want to repeat what they told me because I would be flamed to hell and back. Just too suffice it to say that they do it to stay alive and well in the P.I. and when they need a Filipinos to do some job for them or whatever they have them do it and that is it. It ends there. No trying to be friends or best buddies because they know after years and years of living here the truth and how to relate to them.
Some of you may say, Wait a minute I was invited to party with my girlfriends family and I encounter no hostile attitudes and they were nice to me. Yes of course they would not, that would kill the deal and money flow.
To sum up:
Be friendly and smile to them. Nothing wrong with just shooting the shit and saying hi how are you and so on. Shaking hands goes along way also and buying a beer now and then, but not staying to join is a good idea.
Don't engage in serious eye to eye contact as this is a serious threat to them and means war. Sometimes you may get away with it but sooner or later it will catch up.
If you bump into one while walking best to say you’re sorry and smile and walk away. It’s not the right time to argue and shout as this will escalate the situation and the Filipinos will lose face in front of his country men and will have to get it back by violence and others will help him get it back against you.
Don't hit or shout loudly or call Filipinas sluts and bitches in front of a group of trike drivers or males on the corner. Not a smart thing to do. You should get your ass kicked if you’re doing this anyway.
Don't push or shove people in the street. This is inviting trouble. Keep your hands to yourself. I did this to a vendor once who was a little to aggressive and was surrounded by 20 of them in a New York minute and then I apologized and offered to buy him a beer and it was forgotten and settled. I could have been mister big man and taken on the vendor assoc, but i would have lost.
The fights that I mentioned that I was in earlier in my post was just plain survival and their was only two and it was at night and no other Filipinos were around to help them not get their asses kicked. In that situation I used pepper spray and rocks. I'm in good shape and in my late 20's. I don't know if I would have done it again as one of them could have had a gun. Most males who are of the street class carry something as a weapon, whether a ice pick, knife, homemade gun. You never know.[/color][/QUOTE]
Luvulooongtime
08-23-07, 23:49
I am an american born meztiso Filipino who has visited the PI many times with perhaps 3 months experience in country. I donot speak tagalog and am thoroughly culturally American.
I have had several run ins with local pinoys that may help others avoid problems. When I was in the province I had a rock thrown at me by a young pinoy, although I do not believe he was trying hit me because he missed by twenty feet. He was apparently jeolous that the local girls at the cafe were going ga-ga over me. I am meztiso and light skinned, which is deemed guapo; . I simply smiled and ignored it and kept on flirting. And left the cafe when I was done with my beer. I am sure if I would have responded there woulld have been a problem. I believe I could have whupped him (I am 6 foot and solidly built with modest knowledge boxing/Filipino escrima/kali, but fighting to me is stupid and dangerous) Maybe he would have whupped my ass, who knows; ). But remember, you beat one others will come and in the end you will lose. So never respond to or escalate provocations, just remain cool and leave.
When in Puerta Galera one of a half a dozen young toughs faked a round house kick at me as I walked down the street with my nephews. I did not flinch but simply looked at him with a look of disdain mixed with pity, then I smiled. At no point did I show fear or anger. His buddies laughed at him. My nephews were with me were relieved. They informed me that if we fight, we have to fight everyone in the neighborhood. I spent three days there in PG and saw the young toughs often afterwards and had no problems. So IMHO, be polite, donot show fear or anger, smile and you should be okay. But donot ever embarass, argue, stare down a local because in the end you will lose the fight. Besides we are there to fuck not fight; )
Finally, despite these minor problems, I feel the PI is safe and fun if you are not dumb.
LuvuLoongtime.
Mofo Monger
08-24-07, 09:39
Okay, I have to ask: I was on one of those Filipina lonely hearts website. You know the ones.
Anyways, I would get Instant Messenger all the time, but it seems like most wanted me to Yahoo Messenger them. Why?
Do they get a fee or something.
Anyone care to explain?
Luvulooongtime
08-24-07, 21:59
I have not been on Yahoo Messenger in about 5 months, but it is quicker and more reliable. Also you have live cams for those special moments; ). LOL. I donot think they get a fee. You can also leave messages that they get as soon as they log on. Luvuloongtime
P.S. I have several offers to take clothes off for me for $$$$ on YM, not my style. I am old fashioned. I like to live action! Not a computer screen.
Wow, some people still call it "lonely hearts"? Well, your question belongs on "chat rooms and pen pals".
You don't say what site, so thanks? Love it when people give the least possible info and then expect someone to answer their questions...
Maybe...
1) Ym is more permanent than the pay for sites. Usually the messenger ID is also a yahoo email address.
2) she has other friends on the pay for site, ym allows her to be invisible.
3) cam is more stable on the ym site.
4) She's already chatting on the ym site and moving you there is easier than bouncing back to a different web site with a different format.
5) the pay for site has strict rules....is quick to ban ladies who break the rules. This is expecially true with Cherry blossom.
6) etc...
Okay, I have to ask: I was on one of those Filipina lonely hearts website. You know the ones.
Anyways, I would get Instant Messenger all the time, but it seems like most wanted me to Yahoo Messenger them. Why?
Do they get a fee or something.
Anyone care to explain?
Mofo Monger
08-25-07, 19:50
"You don't say what site, so thanks? Love it when people give the least possible info and then expect someone to answer their questions..."
I don't specifically mention the site as I thought the board rules forbids against posting other websites in the posts. Was being considerate....
What other info do you need.
My question was pretty straight forward...why do some women constantly ask for you to join them in YM, when you are already talking to them on whatever site you are currently on.
ISG forbids posting links to OTHER adult sites. If you rtff, you'll see that non-sex related chat sites are often mentioned - the most common being CherryBlossom, Filipina Heart and EuroPhil (or Euro whatever). These are not "adult" sites per se and therefore are no in direct competition with ISG for advertising dollars. So, if you REALLY want to be considerat, give us a review of the chat site you've been using.
What other information do we need? Duh? I use Cherry Blossom (see my answer number 5), so I don't know the specifics of the other sites. It would be best if someone using the same site as you answer your question....
I gave you five possible answers to your question. (Notice Mr. Consierate didn't say thanks).
Hell will likely freeze over before I answer another question from you...
Have a good day.
X Man
"You don't say what site, so thanks? Love it when people give the least possible info and then expect someone to answer their questions..."
I don't specifically mention the site as I thought the board rules forbids against posting other websites in the posts. Was being considerate....
What other info do you need.
My question was pretty straight forward...why do some women constantly ask for you to join them in YM, when you are already talking to them on whatever site you are currently on.
Mofo Monger
08-26-07, 18:49
"Wow, some people still call it "lonely hearts"? Well, your question belongs on "chat rooms and pen pals".
You don't say what site, so thanks? Love it when people give the least possible info and then expect someone to answer their questions..."
Frankly I don't need answers if there is some sort of rudeness attached to them. If I misread your intentions then I am sorry...but I asked a simple question and it seemed like you jumped down my throat first then provided a response as if that made it all better. Either way, thank you for your response in the first place, I'm sure your a nice guy. Hey, if I'll even buy the first beer if we ever meet.
Ah, but I did answer your question. And this thread has continued in the Chat section which is where it should have been posted in the first place.
Actually, I'm not a "nice guy" at all. But I'll still let you buy me a beer -- just don't sit next to me when I drink it.
X Man
BTW, there is a "quote" button in the bottom right hand of your window.
..but I asked a simple question and it seemed like you jumped down my throat first then provided a response as if that made it all better. Either way, thank you for your response in the first place, I'm sure your a nice guy. Hey, if I'll even buy the first beer if we ever meet.
How cum no-one has mentioned the reported closing of La Cafe? Supposedly, Lim has been re-elected to Mayor of Metro Manila, and has ordered closed all bars frequented by pros. I first saw this mentioned in May. Has anyone been there recently?
How cum no-one has mentioned the reported closing of La Cafe? Supposedly, Lim has been re-elected to Mayor of Metro Manila, and has ordered closed all bars frequented by pros. I first saw this mentioned in May. Has anyone been there recently?
Thats because it is still going strong. You would think there was a pay out to the coffers of the good Mayor.
How cum no-one has mentioned the reported closing of La Cafe? Supposedly, Lim has been re-elected to Mayor of Metro Manila, and has ordered closed all bars frequented by pros. I first saw this mentioned in May. Has anyone been there recently?
Maybe he is too busy shutting down the baywalk. So sad, awesome place to go at night and listen to music.
Robb
The Philippines government is very good at shutting down opportunities for any economic advancement eventhough this is of a smaller scale. The baywalk scene is the only entertainment outside of LA cafe that I want to enjoy when ever I am there. I guess they want their tourists to be closer to the sewer odor and the homeless of Ermita.
I guess they want to advertise how incompetent they are as a nation to dig themselves out of an economic black hole. Their ASEAN partners see manufacturing and tourism as economic platforms while they count on their cherry girls and Saudi base maids to pull their wagon.
Sorry to hear that Baywalk is closing down. That was one of my favorite places to take a date. I feel bad for all the bands and workers there: where can they go?
Conways Bar at Shangrila Makati
Makati Shangrila, conways bar, 2nd floor, open mon to sat, supposed to be 5star hotel live music venue, 3 nights I went there it was rammed full of locals old and young, sat having dinner dancing, young wgs at the bar, and basically full, loads and loads of talent from 2-5 and even 6-7/5 and a v occassional 8/9
They talk to you or you to them with no shame etc, its a bizarre mix but seems to be girls at the bar are for rent, others not so
Took a few of them in pairs etc over a few days. Kobe bryant was there at the same time, but he was chillin wid are kelly (or as anyone from uk remembers cilla black.
R Graham!
I was at LA Cafe on August 22 and 23 and it is very much still there and doing well, or should I say it did me well!
Well here is one I have not seen anyone really alk about. If you watch TV in Philippines the girls seem to like the Kareoke channel that plays the same songs over and over and yes. Over again! Well on the left of the screen peaple post text messages. Has anyone ever responded and met any of the girls that post messages there? I actually called one but she wanted me to come to her apartment and my better thinking was don't! Anyway I would love to here if anyone has tried this before?
Number Six
09-07-07, 07:44
Just wondering: Who else beside Starfleet is offering Wet Thai massage (naked girl, soap, air mattress) besides Starfleet these days?
Rates?
I will be in Manila shortly, staying at the Pan Pacific.
Any recommendations on spas and/or MPs in the Ermita area? Or it is better to cab to Makati or back to airport area (AF1, etc)?
In searching, I ran across a post mentioning Buy & Sell (http://www.buyandsellph.com/). Are pretyy much all the ads massage and more? Or are some strictly theraputic?
Any other tips?
Thanks
Soju Lizard
09-09-07, 10:27
That is true X-Man. Unfortunately at both LA and Amazonia there are far more fuglies than beauties and the fugly girls tend to be the more aggressive ones. I'm not good looking by any stretch of the imagination but every time I've gone to the FL bars I get swarmed by girls I have zero interest in. At first it's good for the ego but after awhile it becomes a pain in the ass. Even the better looking girls can fool you with the clothes hiding baby bellies, scars, cellulite, etc. This is why I prefer to hit EDSA or Burgos and see what I'm getting. They can't hide the flaws so well in a bikini. Plus I feel much more confident knowing the BG's have med checks and you have some recourse with the mamasan if a girl rips you off or doesn't perform up to expectations. There is no such recourse with FL's. The 1000-3000 BF (depending on where you go) buys me peace of mind.
Having said that, I have dabbled in LA/Amazonia and never paid more than 1200 for ones I considered in the 7-8 range (generally taller and thin with a pretty face and no kids). Maybe its because I've been to the Phils so often and after a few minutes talking they realize I'm not a newbie. The girls are smart and will take advantage when they can. I'm sure the price goes up for the wide-eyed newbies on their first trip. Can't blame the ladies for that. LOL.
The uglier ones will start at 500.
X Man
Longhorn2000
09-09-07, 16:21
I know this question will probably draw a barrage of RTFF comments, but here goes anyway. I am planning to leave home on Christmas Day for a two week visit to Manila and Angeles, arriving 12-26 and returning 1-9. Is that a bad time to go? Are all the girls back in the provinces visiting their families? Does the selection dwindle down because of the holidays? Are there still lots of girls available? Would appreciate any advice anyone might have.
If you observe carefully, i.e., midriff not covered, use of uplift bra for small tits, etc., and conduct an incite-full interview, you can have a lot of fun at the LA Cafe.
I know I have said this many times, but it bears repeating, just do not leave with the gal. Have her meet you at your hotel. I had a friend who got shaken down by the police right outside.
That is true X-Man. Unfortunately at both LA and Amazonia there are far more fuglies than beauties and the fugly girls tend to be the more aggressive ones. I'm not good looking by any stretch of the imagination but every time I've gone to the FL bars I get swarmed by girls I have zero interest in. At first it's good for the ego but after awhile it becomes a pain in the ass. Even the better looking girls can fool you with the clothes hiding baby bellies, scars, cellulite, etc. This is why I prefer to hit EDSA or Burgos and see what I'm getting. They can't hide the flaws so well in a bikini. Plus I feel much more confident knowing the BG's have med checks and you have some recourse with the mamasan if a girl rips you off or doesn't perform up to expectations. There is no such recourse with FL's. The 1000-3000 BF (depending on where you go) buys me peace of mind.
Having said that, I have dabbled in LA/Amazonia and never paid more than 1200 for ones I considered in the 7-8 range (generally taller and thin with a pretty face and no kids). Maybe its because I've been to the Phils so often and after a few minutes talking they realize I'm not a newbie. The girls are smart and will take advantage when they can. I'm sure the price goes up for the wide-eyed newbies on their first trip. Can't blame the ladies for that. LOL.
I agree your crazy if you leave with girl from LA Cafe. Let me tell you about my experience back in February. I stayed at the Executive Hotel in ermita and I was with my long time friend from AC that I bar fine and spent 2 weeks with. Well she also was registered with me at the Hotel as well. Anyway, we went to LA Cafe to check it out and when we left we were confronted with Philippines finest officers doing the shake down. Well, I all of a sudden realize maybe I had a fighting chance. This girl was with me and we were "engaged". They threaten us with everything. I finally said look she has been with me and will cointinue to be with me and if you arrest me or he I will have the US Consolate handle this harrassment. I told them to call hotel, call her family, and they will see she is my girl and you won't get a dime from me so go pick on some other poor American. So heads up everyone! Anyway they let me go and saw they did not have a chance to get a single peso from me.
Longhorn2000
09-09-07, 22:10
I know I will probably draw a number of RTFF responses, but I thought I'the post this any way. Hate being alone in the US for holidays, so I'm planning a Manila/Angeles City trip, to begin December 26, and extending through the New Year holiday. Is this a bad time to go? Are all the girls home for the holidays in their provinces? Is it dead in Manila and Angeles during that time? Any advice would be most welcome.
FreebieFan
09-10-07, 00:56
When I lived in the phils I also tried some of those numbers. Most of them were kids, under 18. But a few were insterested in foreigners. Its worth the investment of a few calls I think. Even if 9 fail and one succeeds. Cost of an SMS isn't much.
Christmas is actually a day / night out in the Philippines. The baywalk was packed with people out -- but it was impossible to catch a taxi to EDSA. Selection may be less than normal simply because some ladies will go home, and it is high season. Neverthless, you shouldn't have a problem.
Cebu bars close early on New Year's eve so it's best to set something up before that. I wouldn't be surprised that many bars in MNL close as well. Last new Years eve in Cebu I did one of the bartenders (no bar fine, bar closed early) and the year before that I had a chat friend to keep me company.
I've never been to AC around that time.
X Man
I know I will probably draw a number of RTFF responses, but I thought I'the post this any way. Hate being alone in the US for holidays, so I'm planning a Manila/Angeles City trip, to begin December 26, and extending through the New Year holiday. Is this a bad time to go? Are all the girls home for the holidays in their provinces? Is it dead in Manila and Angeles during that time? Any advice would be most welcome.
Notanocker
09-10-07, 11:46
Soju Lizard makes some good points about LA Cafe. While I have picked up one or two hotties from there who didn't want to leave me, generally G Point seems to result in a better experience. G Point is not well patronised until about 2200, but usually there are one or two girls worth talking to. Of course if it is numbers you are after, then head to LA Cafe. I have never had any trouble with police at either, but perhaps I have simply been lucky.
i went to cotton club last night. door girl told me that they got raided last thursday night by the nbi. the nbi somehow found out they had four **** girls (two 15 and two 17) working there. they were closed for four days because the owner wouldn't pay the 350,000p fine.
GoodEnough
09-11-07, 07:35
Soju Lizard makes some good points about LA Cafe. While I have picked up one or two hotties from there who didn't want to leave me, generally G Point seems to result in a better experience. G Point is not well patronised until about 2200, but usually there are one or two girls worth talking to. Of course if it is numbers you are after, then head to LA Cafe. I have never had any trouble with police at either, but perhaps I have simply been lucky.
The G Point is without doubt my favorite bar in Ermita. It's got decent service and even the food isn't bad. It's also got a much nicer ambiance than LA and no one pokes at you or prods you. I find the quality of the women there hit or miss, with the best quality available on the week ends after 22:00.
It's pretty rare that I disagree with GE, so when it happens...I have to post!
I ordered some food at G point. I don't remember the name but it was some kind of concotion wrapped in pita bread. It wasn't very good. Maybe I just had bad luck. I'll have to try again.
Juri's is a damn good restaurant, but expensive. I also like the middle east place near LA Cafe.
G point is nice. They often have smallish live bands. The first few times I went there, I always got lost. I'm okay now that I remember the landmarks. If you can find Lotus Garden Hotel on Mabini, turn onto Paudra Faura and head away from the bay, or toward Robinson's Mall. If you are a newbie, you might want to review the map before attempting to find it. Don't spend 30 min walking around in circles like I did.
http://www.gpointmanila.com/gpoint_manila.html
X man
The G Point is without doubt my favorite bar in Ermita. It's got decent service and even the food isn't bad. It's also got a much nicer ambiance than LA and no one pokes at you or prods you. I find the quality of the women there hit or miss, with the best quality available on the week ends after 22:00.
I find the quality of the women there hit or miss, with the best quality available on the week ends after 22:00.
GE:
However, I would add that in LA Cafe there is a wider selection of girls! Or have things changed in the meantime?
Cheers - Hesekiels
I know this question will probably draw a barrage of RTFF comments, but here goes anyway. I am planning to leave home on Christmas Day for a two week visit to Manila and Angeles, arriving 12-26 and returning 1-9. Is that a bad time to go? Are all the girls back in the provinces visiting their families? Does the selection dwindle down because of the holidays? Are there still lots of girls available? Would appreciate any advice anyone might have.The holidays are fun time in AC bars. Selection dwindles during the holidays, but there still will be a couple of thousand available.
GoodEnough
09-11-07, 16:22
Okay X, I concede I've only eaten a couple of choices from the menu, none of it very exotic. I think I have had the cheeseburger, which actually tasted like meat, and something else that I do not recall. The couple of times I have sampled food at LA, it was tasteless, but then no one goes to either place for the quality of the food.
The number of women at G Point is significantly smaller than at LA, and that's why I said it's hit or miss. I have had a couple of good experiences there, and more often than not I've left alone. I go there mainly cause it's a nice place to hang out. There's no hassle, and I usually like the band. If I do meet someone, I consider it a bonus since I do not go with that expectation. I always figure if I strike out at G Point I can always go back and try again at LA or head up to EDSA complex.
I've also noticed what appears to be an increasing number of women at Amazonia, but the quality does not seem to be getting any better. Maybe these are the women who used to hang at LA but figure they cannot compete for the Korean guys. As I've said before, I've never been lucky there though I drop by every time I go to LA Cafe.
Come Sunday, I'm off to Africa for a month, which if nothing else will be a radical change of scene. I've not been there for some time, and I'll be interested to see if Nairobi has changed much in the ten years since I've been there.
GE
Well GE, your post begs the question, "Where do YOU go for quality food?"
A while back someone suggested a Sunday bbq at the Lotus rooftop. Never made it, but it sounds nice. Slouch Hat is okay. Swagman Hotel always seems to have many diners, but somehow I've never felt the urge to sit down in the place.
LA Cafe, I only order the pancit. It comes on a huge platter and you can invite friends to help you eat it. The western dishes were rather bland, as GE mentions. You can walk across the street to the Filipino place and get bland for one third the price.
The hottest woman I ever met at Amazonia was a 2nd floor waitress. Wow. Unfortunately, she'd already commited herself to someone. You have to be quick! Once I spyed a lady dancing inside the bar on one of those platforms. There weren't many customers so she was wiping dust on some of the upper shelves and showing a lot of leg. The whole scene struck me as sexy/weird and I tried to take a picture.
As often happens in the Philippines, some idiot shouted out, "hey, he's taking your picture", causing her to turn around -- the scene I wanted was lost. And then she wanted to see and wanted a copy and we exchanged email / phone number and she's been pestering me ever since.
How do you explain to a woman that you were taking her picture NOT becuase you love her, but because a woman, standing on a table in a black miniskirt, reaching up and dusting stuff, is a really unique situation.
I hope you have a great Nairobi trip GE. Maybe see you around the holidays.
X Man
Okay X, I concede I've only eaten a couple of choices from the menu, none of it very exotic. I think I have had the cheeseburger, which actually tasted like meat, and something else that I do not recall. The couple of times I have sampled food at LA, it was tasteless, but then no one goes to either place for the quality of the food.
The number of women at G Point is significantly smaller than at LA, and that's why I said it's hit or miss. I have had a couple of good experiences there, and more often than not I've left alone. I go there mainly cause it's a nice place to hang out. There's no hassle, and I usually like the band. If I do meet someone, I consider it a bonus since I do not go with that expectation. I always figure if I strike out at G Point I can always go back and try again at LA or head up to EDSA complex.
I've also noticed what appears to be an increasing number of women at Amazonia, but the quality does not seem to be getting any better. Maybe these are the women who used to hang at LA but figure they cannot compete for the Korean guys. As I've said before, I've never been lucky there though I drop by every time I go to LA Cafe.
Come Sunday, I'm off to Africa for a month, which if nothing else will be a radical change of scene. I've not been there for some time, and I'll be interested to see if Nairobi has changed much in the ten years since I've been there.
GE
Just wondering: Who else beside Starfleet is offering Wet Thai massage (naked girl, soap, air mattress) besides Starfleet these days?
Rates?
I had some time to kill yesterday and decided to explore Starfleet (SF) and take one for the team, so I could post an update for those with inquiring minds.
I had a personal driver who knew where it was located, but en-route to SF we passed AF1 and it is approximately 1K past AF1 on the same side of the highway.
I arrived around 5 pm and the entrance is located in a parking garage with a private security guard. Very secure entry, where no one can see you entering/exiting. When I entered, I wasn’t asked if I had a camera (unlike AF1) but they have signs posted “Please do not take pictures”.
I was greeted by the manager and he asked if I had been there before and I replied that I hadn’t and that I normally go to AF1, but I heard that they offered wet massage and he confirmed that. He quoted the price of massage as 2000P for the house and 2000P for the lady.
In comparison to AF1, SF only has one level and had 12 girls on duty. All ladies available were at least a 6 and a few were 8. I took my time and discussed most of the ladies with the manager. He didn’t rush me and gave me good advice on each lady…i.e., kids, good service, and if they had already had a customer today. The fishbowl is the same as AF1, where you have tinted glass with a couple of strips missing for you to make eye contact with the ladies.
I took about 10 minutes before selecting #22 (manager’s number one pick for service). After I paid the 2000P room fee, the house boy took me to a couple of chairs and I had a seat and was offered a free drink while he removed my socks and shoes and gave me slippers to wear. I was then led downstairs to the room and all I saw was the bed (not really a bed, but a flat table with mattress) with full mirrors on each wall and a bathroom. I walked in and started to ask again about the wet massage, but then I realized that off the bathroom was a wet massage room, with a separate shower room. The room was clean, but the air conditioner really was worn out and the room was a little warm. The manager offered to turn on the TV, but there was no cable.
After 5 minutes #22 arrived, prior to her arrival I saw a sign that read, “Twin and double special 50% discount”. When she arrived I asked her about the sign and she told me that for an additional 1000P for the house and 2000P for the girl, I could have two ladies. I asked if she had a friend that she enjoyed working with and she very happily said “YES”, so for the sake of this report, I told her to get her friend.
I was very happy to see #69 arrive, as she was the other lady that I almost picked. Number 22 then proceeded to undress me and gave me a robe to put on, while #69 cleaned the wet mattress with alcohol and hot water. #22 and I entered the shower room and she gave me a really good cleaning. Soon after #69 joined us in the shower. The shower room is just a tad small for three, but I didn’t mind rubbing against two maganda (beautiful) ladies all soaped up.
After the shower, I laid face down on the wet mattress and both ladies poured some Johnson and Johnson “No More Tears” shampoo on my back and legs. I know this because I accidentally got some soap in my eyes and #22 told me that my eyes shouldn’t be hurting because they used that shampoo.
Both ladies took turns giving me full body to body massage and #22 wasn’t shaved, but not a lot of hair, but it felt really nice when she rubbed her pussy on my back. I gave both an 8 for the massage, but #69 was better due to her breasts and being a little bit heavier. After 10 minutes I flipped over and both gave me a full body to body massage on top, very very nice. The total massage lasted about 20 minutes.
After we dried off, we proceeded to the bed and both ladies started kissing me all over and giving me their breast to kiss. They both took their time and didn’t make me feel rushed.
Number 22 then stated CBJ and #69 climbed on my face and let me lick her pussy, and then they swapped positions and after 2 minutes of doing a CBJ, #69 climbed on CG and she was very tight (hard to enter and tight fit). She seemed to really get into it and was grinding against me. While she was on CG #22 gave me her breasts and let me finger her. After 5 minutes #69 asked for Mish, and of course I didn’t object. As we started Mish, she asked me to fuck her harder and she was yelling “Oh Shit, Oh Shit”. I have been around for a while and have had a lot of girls, and she didn’t seem to be faking to me. After 5 minutes she asked for doggie and again I didn’t object. I really liked his lady and I really don’t even remember where #22 was, or what she was doing during this time, I just know that she was there. After 5 minutes of hard pounding, I couldn’t hold it any longer and unloaded deep into her. As I withdrew, #22 went and got a tissue for the condom and #69 wanted to cuddle. That kind of caught me off guard, as I was expecting to just get up and go shower. After 5 minutes of #69 and me laying in each other arms, and her kissing my neck and chest we got up and all three of us went back into the shower. They both washed me again and then #22 asked me if I wanted a second pop, because she wanted to try. I told her sorry I am old (40), but the real reason that I didn’t go for the second pop was due to having five pops (5 different ladies) in the last 24 hours.
After dressing, both ladies ask me to please return and ask for them, and then we went upstairs together and the house boy put my shoes and socks on me and I hugged both ladies and left. Total time in SF was 1 hour and 45 minutes, total damage was 7000P.
En-route back to my hotel, we passed ESDA Entertainment Complex and since it was open, I decided that I should stop. That report will follow soon.
I know this is a long report and I hope that I covered everything that matters. IMHO SF ranks one above AF1 due to the wet massage, as always YMMV.
Number: 22 (1 kid 2 yrs old)
Face: 7/10
Age: 23 years
Origin: Filipina
Body: 6/10
Natural not shaved
Skin: 7/10
Attitude: 8/10
Massage Job: 8/10
HJ: 7.5/10
CBJ: 6/10
FJ: N/A
Measurement: 164cm/48kg/bra 34A
Number: 69 (no kids)
Face: 8/10
Age: 21 years
Origin: Filipina
Body: 9/10
Shaved
Skin: 8/10
Attitude: 9/10
Massage Job: 8/10
HJ: 7.5/10
CBJ: 6/10
FJ: 9/10
Measurement: 160cm/54kg/bra 36C (Very nice and firm)
GoodEnough
09-13-07, 10:44
X: A fair question. The answer is that I have no expectations of good food in Ermita, and the best place I ever go there is the Shawarma Palace which is owned by a guy from Jordan (II think) and the food is good, solid middle eastern fare but, of course, no alcohol is served.
For good food, there are lots of places in Makati. I like Italiannis in Greenbelt. I like all of the restaurants in little Tokyo on Pasong Tamo. There are also some excellent restaurants in Ft. Bonafacio and in Rockwell (Power Plant) Mall. These are all top of the line, expensive places that will run Php1,500-2,500 a person, but the food is excellent. Needless to say, I do not take LA Cafe ladies there.
Thanks for the good wishes about Africa. I'll report on these experiences from the Africa boards.
GE
Ilongo_boy
09-13-07, 12:58
In Malate, they also have cafe Havana and something called ...Bistro which is also nice.
In Makati, Greenbelt 2, Cafe havana has a great lunch buffet selection, Sentro right above it and there is a nice Spanish restaurant on the third floor beside the theaters overlooking all of Grennbelt area - good wine selection. GB 3 has plenty to offer...like GE said Italiannis, Masa, Nuovo...etc
IB
X: A fair question. The answer is that I have no expectations of good food in Ermita, and the best place I ever go there is the Shawarma Palace which is owned by a guy from Jordan (II think) and the food is good, solid middle eastern fare but, of course, no alcohol is served.
For good food, there are lots of places in Makati. I like Italiannis in Greenbelt. I like all of the restaurants in little Tokyo on Pasong Tamo. There are also some excellent restaurants in Ft. Bonafacio and in Rockwell (Power Plant) Mall. These are all top of the line, expensive places that will run Php1,500-2,500 a person, but the food is excellent. Needless to say, I do not take LA Cafe ladies there.
Thanks for the good wishes about Africa. I'll report on these experiences from the Africa boards.
GE
Hi,
yes I love that place also, cause its one of the few ones u can sit outside. Food is great, made fresh upon order. Love the meat, sometimes they have funny terrorist TV in there, but I go there for the food , LOL, not interested in politics so much. Prices start 200p for a nice meal, order some extra humus and bread and ur full allready :)
The dont serve alcohol, but its ok, you can have that anywhere in that area.
Happy eating!!
Blink
Soju Lizard
09-14-07, 10:28
The best place I've found for a decent and reasonably priced meal in Malate/Ermita is the Hobbit House on Del Pilar near the La Corona Best Western Hotel. For those that don't know, it's almost entirely staffed by Little People (midgets for the non-PC crowd).
I first went there several years ago just for the novelty factor and at that time I wasn't very impressed with the food but I returned on my last trip to Manila in June and my meal was fantastic. They must have hired a new chef because the difference was like night and day. I had the seafood spaghetti which came with a salad and garlic bread. Can't remember the total but it was in the 300-350 range. The staff is super friendly and they usually have a band or single musician providing some music. Also they have a pool table set off in a side room which I didn't know about before. My only complaint is the place is kind of dark. There is some overhead lighting and candles on the tables but they could use a few more lights IMO. The beer selection is good too with labels from around the world.
I took a lady there with me and she absolutely loved it too, mainly because of the friendly and entertaining staff. We went into the pool room and shot pool for an hour and we had our own private little waitress cater to our every need. I bought the waitress a margarita and it obviously got her drunk pretty quick and had her dancing all over the place in no time. The glass was almost as big as she was but she drank it all. There's nothing quite like watching your lady dirty dance with a midget. LOL. My only regret was I didn't have a camera with me. One more place that adds to the uniqueness of the Philippines.
I also have been to the Hobbit House on several occasions and have always had a great time there. The little people staff is more than just a novelty; they are some of the hardest working restaurant staff I’ve encountered in any country.
If you are looking for something different and fun to take a special lady, go there on a Monday night. Freddie Aguilar, a famous Filipino musician, always plays there on Mondays. Most of his songs are in Tagalog so your girl will have to translate, but he puts on a great show. Whenever I’ve gone there, all of the Filipinos in the audience, including my girlfriend, were singing along to most of his songs. I've met him and members of his band after the show and they're a great bunch of guys.
It's a great place to go to other than the gogo bars to experience a little Filipino culture.
Cheers!
First of all, I'll second the opinions of GE and Blink, the best value Ermita eats are at Shwarma. At the moment there are two right across from each other just a few steps away from LA cafe. Warning, you might get some burbs / indegestion. Don't overdo it....
As for Hobbit house, I've only been to the one in Malate, near Remedios Circle. Sagramore doesn't tell us when he was last at Ermita Hobbit, which, sorry, makes the food quality info useles. Cooks do change. I'll also say that the service is only passable at Malate. There's a good reason for this. I suspect some of these hobbits have been on the job for 30+ years, and the old bones are getting creaky. I imagine they're also plenty fed up with the freak show atmosphere.
Neverhteless, the novelty factor and the good music make it well worthwile. The first time I went to Hobbit, Freddy Agular was sitting at the next table. I had no idea who he was, but the ladies (2) were all excited. I gave them my camera and let them interuupt his evening out. He was very gracious and let them take pictures. Unfortunately, the two ladies turned out to be a real pain in the asss, so they never received the pics. (one was a hanger on, but expected to get paid as if she was the belle of the ball.)
Freddy Aguilar is mostly a folk singer and he's famous in the Philippoines. You might see him play at Hobbit or even LA cafe (2nd floor).
X Man
I also have been to the Hobbit House on several occasions and have always had a great time there. The little people staff is more than just a novelty; they are some of the hardest working restaurant staff I’ve encountered in any country.
If you are looking for something different and fun to take a special lady, go there on a Monday night. Freddie Aguilar, a famous Filipino musician, always plays there on Mondays. Most of his songs are in Tagalog so your girl will have to translate, but he puts on a great show. Whenever I’ve gone there, all of the Filipinos in the audience, including my girlfriend, were singing along to most of his songs. I've met him and members of his band after the show and they're a great bunch of guys.
It's a great place to go to other than the gogo bars to experience a little Filipino culture.
Cheers!
North Neighbour
09-16-07, 01:39
Hi guys,
I recently moved to Manila where I'm sharing an apartment with a local Filipina. Now, she's very cool and we get along quite well, but she definitely wouldn't approve of me bringing bar girls back to the apartment.
I would like to start sampling the local goods (nothing as of yet), except I don't have a lot of money to spend on hotels (especially as I'm already paying for my apartment).
My question is: which bars/go-go/ktv/mp offers the best value in terms of girl+room package? The ideal scenario is probably that I roll in, get a room with a girl for an hour or two, and then just come back to the apartment as if I was out shopping or something.
All advice is appreciated.
-NN
Notanocker
09-16-07, 09:20
Northneighbour,
Why don't you try Amazonia bar just down from LA Cafe in Ermita? Earlier this year, I met a lovely woman there, and went ST in the hotel rooms in this complex. Not expensive. The rooms are not large, but mine seemed very clean, quite modern, and the shower worked well. It does not deliver the Karaoke experience, but I find that aspect boring. Of course you can always go to Quezon City and pay Korean-type extortionate rates, but I assume you don't want that level of expense if it can be avoided.
An GF I knew years ago told me she got her vibrators at a shop in Manila, but I never went there. Now I would like to introduce my new GF to a small butt plug. (It's not something I would want airport security to pull out). "Oh that? Thats so I don't make any additional gels while in flight"
A search of the forums revealed this from Cebu Local last year.
A shop called Better than Bare - 1 block from Greenbelt located at the Ground floor of BSA Mansions, Benavidez street, Legaspi Village. Makati Sexy Lingerie and Adult toys
Its close to where I like to stay, so I'll go have a look. Anyone else have a suggestion?
(It's not something I would want airport security to pull out).
I think the airport staff don't bother at all.
They've seen that sort of things hundreds of times.
You are just one more. Don't care, man!
Cheers!
They closed it down. It was a great place to take the LA Cafe trollups but NO MAS!!! Now you have to take those LA Cafe pinoy spunksters shopping at Robinson mall or Mall Asia. It will probably revert back to a hangout for drug addicts and thugs again. Another good move to drive all caucasian foreign tourists to Bangkok!!
FreebieFan
09-25-07, 00:57
Driving down Roxas a few times this past weekend ( my trip report is in Makati section) with fingers appropriately up someones skirt, noticed that all the dinosaurs have gone.
Yep Baywalk has gone back to its old look.. and agree.. will soon be littered with the druggies again.
Imagine the time effort and money that went into making it a dstination that families ( and us mongers could safely visit). And now stored in a wahehouse somewhere are all those cute dinosaurs.
At the weekend saw a few Caucasian tourists looking around and wondering where it had all gone.
Democracy in action: Elect a 70 year old and dont be suprised if he has "old" ideas.
Is LA Cafe now closed or not?
Thanks guys.
I am planning my first trip to The Philipines and have RTFF.
Prices are generally quoted as one or two thousand but no mention is made of duration. Are these for LT (and all up - barfine, tip and taxi..)??
Many thanks.
Gofer
Check the most recent post in Travel Plans and Announcements. Good tidings.
I plan to be there soon. Or the G-point sounds like a good alternative.
SD
Is LA Cafe now closed or not?
Thanks guys.Why LA should be closed?
Hawaii Man
10-03-07, 02:14
I just arrived back home last week from 5 nights in the playground of my dreams.
I mixed it up this time, spending the first night in Manila with a spinner from LA Cafe. The next night I enjoyed the company of an old flame who is waiting for her visa to the US. Then off to a few nights in Angeles. I have been promising myself that I would someday take the time to visit the Massage / KTV by the airport. The infamous Air Force One.
I have poked around many places in PI (no pun intended) and I have to tell you, this place exceeded my expectations.
To get there, I took a taxi from the Hyatt in Ermita. You follow the route exactly to NAIA International Terminal, but instead of turning into the airport parking lot at the last signal, you go straight ahead for about 1 1/2 or 2 miles. On the right side of the road you will eventually come to the City Mall Building, and Air Force One entrance is on the far side of the building toward the rear.
I have always wanted to find a place close to the airport to hang out and perhaps cause some damage before my late night flights departures. My visit to AF1 was on a recent Friday evening about 7:30pm. When I got out of the taxi, I was met by 2-3 doormen who assisted me with my bags, gave me a claim slip and secured my bags in a locked closed in the lobby.
This lobby of this place looked like a relatively nice hotel. I told them I had never been there before so they gave me instructions to take the elevator up to the second floor. Off I go, and I am met in the upstairs lobby by 2 beautiful girls dressed in sexy dresses. They pointed out the highlights that I could see from the upstairs lobby desk. Straight in front of me down a short hallway was the entrance to the KTV. It wasn't open yet. I think they said it opens up at 8:30pm.
Don't hold me to the accuracy here, my attention to details was somewhat limited by the eye candy before me. If you stay at a table, then you pay 500p consumable. If you want a dancer or model to sit with you then you pay from 900p.1000p per hour for her company, drinks and food are extra.
If you want the VIP rooom in the KTV it is 3000p consumable, girls are the same rate as the open table area. Food and drinks extra.
From previous posts, I heard that the girls can be taken out. Maybe someone else can comment on this.
Now for the good part. I'm not a KTV kind of guy, but a massage before my 11 hours in the air sounded good, and if I could get it up one more time, why not?
There are three classes of service / rooms in the massage area, Flight 168 is the name of this area I believe. Upstairs is a fishbowl (glassed in viewing room) that you can view and select your girl (s) from. I was told that the girls can only see the eyes of the guys looking into the viewing room. So you don't have wear your tuxedo.
So anyway, I am totally shocked! I have seen beautiful girls on the street, in the hotels, in Angeles City, LA Cafe, P Burgos Area (Flamingo Club. Yum yum), EDSA, Airport Complex, you name it, but I have never seen so many BEAUTIFUL girls all in one place like I did here. And this was in Coach Class! And First Class rooms and Business Class rooms are down the escalator in their own section of the building. In my opinion, the girls available in this fish bowl were no better / no worse than the girls in Economy Class. I am told that you can take a girl from either viewing room and take them to the room of your choice as long as you pay the correct room rate. The girl from the Economy viewing room would be 1500p and if you took one from Business you pay 2500p or 3500p depending. I am not 100% sure on this arrangement, but just check with your steward in the viewing area. He is non judgemental and is really there to help you have a good time.
You see, Flight 168 has 3 classes of service. This applies mainly to the rooms that are available for you to enjoy yourself. I looked at all 3 classes and there is a difference! Economy Class rooms are about 10 x 14' with a relatively small shower on the side. Cost is 1500p for 90 minutes for the room and 1500p for the girl from the economy class viewing room.
For all classes of service, you pay for the room before, and then pay the girl the room rate for "sextras". I understand that this rate for the girls is negotiable, but I just paid the going rate.
The Business Class rooms are sweet, about 500 square feet with a jacuzzi tub, nice BIG shower, big king size bed. Plent of room for mixing it up with more than one guest. Cost for Business Class is 2500p for the room (90 minutes) and same for the girl.
The First Class Rooms are immense. Maybe 800-900 square feet. HUGE bed, couch and seating area. Everthing you can imagine is here in this room. Cost for First Class is 3500p for the room (90 minutes) and the same for the girl.
I went the lowest cost way on this trip because I wasn't sure if junior could perform anymore after 6 days of. Well, you know!
The girl was gorgeous, the massage was not so great. Here are some helpful hints: If the girl only has a number on her tag, then she is experienced. If she has a letter / number combination then she is new to the business. It's always a roll of the dice here guys.
The girl I was with was happy to give me her cell phone number (anxious really) and wants to get together outside of the business next time I am in town. Maybe some of you mongers who have experience in this area could shed some light on this. She did mention that if she didn't show up for work, then she was fined 500p for the day. Maybe this is like a bar fine?
So, no bola boys. I get around and these girls are stunning (at least on this Friday night! ).
I'm going to start my next 5 day trip at this place and see what is available. Until then, I will just have to be content to dream about this Philipina/Castilian mix with the pure black eyes and hair to match.
Oh my god, save me from PPD.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Hawaii Man
10-03-07, 02:21
I can tell you for sure LA Cafe is open as of October 1, 2007. I was there.
Wicked Roger
10-04-07, 08:07
The girl I was with was happy to give me her cell phone number (anxious really) and wants to get together outside of the business next time I am in town. Maybe some of you mongers who have experience in this area could shed some light on this. She did mention that if she didn't show up for work, then she was fined 500p for the day. Maybe this is like a bar fine?
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.HM
Great report makes me want to try same next time I am in Manila sounds fun and easy going on the wallet (well for me anyways).
Re the mobile and fine. What she says about fines is likely true. In Makati I was told it was 7000 pesos (2 bar fines) if the girl is seen with a bar customer etc.
So I went into bars and got a few mobile numbers also or was carefully given or after barfining the lady then get teh number.
So now when I come back to Manila I have choices. I have numbers of bar gilrs or CB or ACM girls (see my earlier FR) or I can go bar to find new ones :)
The Wanderer
10-06-07, 10:21
Stopped at Best Western, La Corona in Manila towards the end of September, very good location, the hotel is clean and GF, no issues at all at US$50 a night.
Arrived on a Monday evening and my first point of call was Amazonia. The waitresses wear a rather nice schoolgirl uniform, unfortunately they were not on the menu. There were a number of freelancers, but the quality was very, very low, possibly because it was a Monday. One girl (actually it would have been a while since she could have truthfully been described as a girl) with teeth missing offered herself and not being that desperate or drunk I quickly declined. Finished by drink and set off for the EDSA complex. I have very limited experience in Manila and was not sure where EDSA was to tell the truth, it was only through the information in this forum I knew it existed. Therefore, it was with a certain amount of trepidation that I flagged a cab and tried to convey an air of confidence that I knew were I was going. The taxi driver repeatedly asked if I had been to EDSA before and questioned if I would not prefer to visit a place called East Asia. If this happens to you just be firm, "if you do not want to take me, stop and I will find a cab that will…etc". The EDSA Complex is a building with about six a-go-go bars, it is across the road and slightly to the right from the Heritage Hotel.
First up was the Cotton club - did not like the lay out. There was around 40 girls not much took my fancy. Downed the SMG and wondered over to Bullets and Arrows, much better IMHO 60+ BGs – and some very good looking. Price was 1000 bar fine and 2500 to the girl. Seemed they were operating a fixed price policy with no flexibility. Took a cracker – Jeannie 19YO. Great girl to chat to, truly beautiful, however like statue in bed...........what a disappointment.
Next afternoon around 5pm I wandered into Hussy, located between La Corona and LA café on Del Pilar, same side of the road as LA Café. It is a small bar, on the dingy side and had 8/10 girls. My intention was to visit LA café later but a 23 YO caught my eye, 6/7 in looks and at p1500 (BF500/BG1000) for LT was a bargain I could not refuse. Besides if the experience turned about to be as bad as the previous night I could dump her and go hunting again. I was not disappointed and spent a great evening and night, not only was she good but GFE as well.
Later called into a bar called Butterfly, very cheap beer, 45 for SMG but very quiet. Also called in at G Stop, 10/12 working girls who would have been a little elderly for me if I was in the market and none that I could call good looking but food was ok!
Next morning I was off to Sabang, Puerto Galera, and a report will follow in a day or so.
Hello fellow mongers.
I have an inexperienced friend visiting Manila soon. I have suggested he go to Rascals, in P Burgos St.
Can anyone tell me the current rates for barfine LT, and what would be a reasonable rate to pay the girl?
G
Key Master
10-07-07, 09:12
Hello fellow mongers.
I have an inexperienced friend visiting Manila soon. I have suggested he go to Rascals, in P Burgos St.
Can anyone tell me the current rates for barfine LT, and what would be a reasonable rate to pay the girl?
G
The Burgos area is more talked about in the Makati section than here. There was a recent discussion on bar fines. Tip rates seem to be all over the place.
Wrapping up eight days in Manila (FR to follow), but I was wondering if anyone heard what I did this week.
I took 4 girls from the Cafe and 3 of 4 when asked if I could take pictures, said promise me that you will not put them on the internet. I asked one what do you mean and she told me that her friends were nursing students and that they search the internet and tell girls when they see their pictures posted.
Also, I have to been to Amazonia a few times in the past and never paid for lady drinks. Last night I stopped by and brought a FL a drink and when I signed the ticket I asked why was her drink 250P and was told that was the going rate. Later I asked the FL and she told me that she makes 50P per drink. That shocked me, so I paid my bill and went to the Cafe.
Stay Safe,
Robb
I heard from a good girl I have taken out few times that LA cafe was in trouble because the Police caught some minor girls there with cahout with the mamasans they used to have. So the owners were told to get rid of all the mamasans there. Before the mamasans were not encouraged but tolerated by the establishment. Now there are no more mamasans to worry about. When the mamasans were there they used to have most of the good looking yong women under their wings mostly catering to Koreans.
there is no trouble now for the LA cafe owners so it is unlikely they will close.
I took 4 girls from the Cafe and 3 of 4 when asked if I could take pictures, said promise me that you will not put them on the internet. I asked one what do you mean and she told me that her friends were nursing students and that they search the internet and tell girls when they see their pictures posted.
Did you somehow think that the Internet was going to remain our secret? That we could take pictures and post them to our content? The word gets around about pictures on the net and some girls do care about that. Anyone with a clue about how they are should know that some of them care deeply about being exposed. Loss of face and all that goes with it. So be cool and honor their request for discretion if they make it.
So be cool and honor their request for discretion if they make it.
I always honor their request, but I think you misunderstood what I posted. I would never dishonor a girl. I just asked if anyone had heard that. I have been living here for 6 months and I have been to the Cafe 50 times and I have never been asked that before, but this time, 3 of 4 asked me. That just seemed strange to me so that is why I asked the question.
If you read my past post (Guam) some dumbass took my TR of a bar that I got FS in, to the bar and showed the girl. She freaked out.
Stay Safe
Robb
Robbaf
Are you shocked because she makes too much or too little out of the drink?
I always honor their request, but I think you misunderstood what I posted. I would never dishonor a girl. I just asked if anyone had heard that. I have been living here for 6 months and I have been to the Cafe 50 times and I have never been asked that before, but this time, 3 of 4 asked me. That just seemed strange to me so that is why I asked the question.
If you read my past post (Guam) some dumbass took my TR of a bar that I got FS in, to the bar and showed the girl. She freaked out.
Stay Safe
Robb
I apologize for skipping over that question. Yes, I did hear it at least once last summer when I was there for 2 months. I also got asked once in Thailand so this isn't limited to the Phils. Now you and I are a miniscule sample of the typical camera wielding mongers out there, but there have to be others who have been asked this. I didn't think about it at the time because I like my discretion as much or more than hers so I don't post my pictures anyway. On the other hand, to each his own as long as the girls' requests are honored should they mention it.
Are you shocked because she makes too much or too little out of the drink?
I was shocked because they do not work for the bar. They are a customer just like I am. Next thing you know, we will be paying the bar for FL barfine?? I am not complaining or trying to start a fight, just posting what I found.
Robb
I was shocked because they do not work for the bar. They are a customer just like I am. Next thing you know, we will be paying the bar for FL barfine?? I am not complaining or trying to start a fight, just posting what I found.
Robb
Damn right I'd walk out also!
If she is receiving commissions form Amazonia then she is NOT a freelancer at all but is in fact, at best, a 'causal' employee or more likely a stealth GRO.
I don't think I will partonise any place that indulges in such deceptive conduct.
I just got off yahoo after talking with one of several bar girls from P.Burgos who is lamenting no customers to me almost daily. I told her quite bluntly to tell her mamasan that the prices are way too high. 500php per drink + 3500php for bar fine + Fee for the girl afterwards? No bloody wonder the bars are empty!
Happy mongering
Amavida
Severin007
10-15-07, 10:48
Saturday night I rode my cycle to check out the LA Cafe after hearing so much about it on these pages. I then rode over to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. EDSA was filled with beautiful girls and hardly a customer in sight. LA Cafe was filled with men and freelancers.
EDSA was clearly superior in terms of the quality and quantity of girls. Why doesn't anyone go to EDSA? I can assume its the convenience of being in Ermita or maybe people just don't know about it.
Hi,
I am on my first visit to Manila and staying at the Makati Shangri-La.
Where would be the best go go bars to go to? Is the Vodoo far?
Thanks for the advice for a newbie!
GermanBoy 2
10-16-07, 20:17
Be sure I will go to the EDSA when I will be in Manila in about 4 weeks.
Thanks for telling us that.
Saturday night I rode my cycle to check out the LA Cafe after hearing so much about it on these pages. I then rode over to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. EDSA was filled with beautiful girls and hardly a customer in sight. LA Cafe was filled with men and freelancers.
EDSA was clearly superior in terms of the quality and quantity of girls. Why doesn't anyone go to EDSA? I can assume its the convenience of being in Ermita or maybe people just don't know about it.
FreebieFan
10-17-07, 11:21
Ok. As your new I will help you. Firstly Voodoo is a long way rfrom Shang. Manila is a big city that includes the cities of Manila, Makati, Pasay, Pasig etc.
You are in Makati. And just 600 metres from you. Well maybe 800 is Burgos a collection of great lively bars with lots of cuties in bikinis. I was there last weekend and have been going there for past ten years or more.
Go there. Find a honey. Get her phone number nd meet her next day or after bar closes whatever. Don't pay the bar fines unless in Rogues where its much cheaper. Either way its a great intro. Girls in Burgos are of a slightly higher class than Edsa Entertainment complex, or Voodoo/Amazonia/LA Cafe etc.
Ok. I've helped someone so hopefully good karma will come my way.
MrFantastik
10-17-07, 16:31
Hi,
I have a simple questions after years & years of forum reading.
Where can I find some nice girls in the Philippines? Really NICE girls. Like xxx stars (or semi-pro) as we can see on movies like Philippine Girl or Bangkok Suckee Fuckee series. Great attitude, nice body, wonderful face. No problems for money. AND FOR TIME (2months trip over the country)
Thanks and. Sorry for my poor english.
Hi,
I have a simple questions after years & years of forum reading.
Where can I find some nice girls in the Philippines? Really NICE girls. Like xxx stars (or semi-pro) as we can see on movies like Philippine Girl or Bangkok Suckee Fuckee series. Great attitude, nice body, wonderful face. No problems for money. AND FOR TIME (2months trip over the country)
Thanks and. Sorry for my poor english.
mmm let me see if i got this right...
Walk down the street or go into any mall in asia & look around.
Go online to every asian dating web site available, this takes a lot of time but very little money.
Walk in & out of every bar in south east asia, this takes time & more money.
Go to every high class escort agency in asia, this takes little time but a lot of money.
hehehehhehe he did i miss anything :-)
Happy mongering dude :-)
Amavida
Be careful out there
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071019/ap_on_re_as/philippines_explosion
Be careful out there
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071019/ap_on_re_as/philippines_explosion I checked out of my hotel in Makati and passed right by this mall on my way to the airport, 10 minutes before the bomb blast. Last week, I spend 20 hours in this mall. You never know:eek:
Stay safe
Robb
Bartchamdo
10-21-07, 04:02
After reading this forum for a few months, I arrived in Manila with high hopes about visiting Air Force One and Starfleet. I waited til noon on my first day of arrival (their opening time) then cabbed to AF1, jet lag and all.
I accidentally wandered into the VIP area first, and saw a great fishbowl. There were around a dozen lovelies, many quite busty. I was told there was a special - "Two girls for the price of one." Only later did this get clarified. You pay for both girls, but you only pay for the room once. It was clearly b.s. "Two girls for the price of one" wasn't accurate.
I asked for a girl recommendation and was told that F2 was great. She looked fine, but I wanted to look around more before committing, so I went to see the Economy fishbowl. I saw plenty of beautiful faces here also. In the end I went with F2, as suggested.
Some staff escorted me to the room, and weren't particularly helpful. I was given sandals to wear that were much too small for me. I was told that bottled water was 100 pesos. Then, later, I was told that was water was complimentary.
Amazing how this place manages to complicate things as simple as "free water" or "two for the price of one"!
I passed on the water and waited and eventually the girl showed up. She seemed extremely nervous and kept chatting to me in tagalog. I told her I was sorry, but didn't know tagalog. She kept talking to me in tagalog. She then told me she was extremely shy and I was her first customer. This was a huge turnoff. If I was going to pay 4000 pesos total for a VIP girl, I wanted a good one. Not one who had no idea what she was doing in the sack.
Why did the papasan recommend this girl? I don't understand how some mongers prefer new girls. She was obviously scared and probably didn't want to be there in the first place. So I took her back to the front desk and asked for a different girl. I tried to do it in a face saving way. I didn't complain about her, but just said she was new and I was new too, so it was a bad match.
Papasan recommended a few other VIP girls. One cute girl caught my eye and I asked if she gave a good BJ. The papasan told me she did, but mumbled it. Looking back, I should have realized that means "No, not at all."
I picked this girl and we met in the room. She also told me she was shy (are any of Air Force One's girls not shy?), but she seemed a little more professional and we got down to business. She gave a mediocre awkward massage. At one point she was pushing my arms in strange ways that actually hurt my wrists and I had to tell her to stop. I was laying there trying to enjoy the lame massage, and she actually asked me "Are you going to sleep?" I quickly convinced her I wasn't at all sleepy.
She kept some of her clothes on and kept hiding a huge c-section scar on her lower abdomen with her hands. She acted extremely embarrassed about this scar. I managed to ignore it and we eventually got down to sex. She wasn't into it and didn't act like she was. She gave the slightest of hand jobs, gave me about 45 seconds of an unskilled, listless CBJ, then mounted me, did CG for a minute or two, and asked to switch positions. We screwed for a few minutes more, and it became really obvious that this wasn't going to be a VIP experience. I hadn't cum, but I didn't care. I wanted it over with. I told her I was disappointed, but paid her. Then I got out of there quickly, and complained to the papasan.
It was a ridiculous situation. Why was I paying a huge price for a girl with a nice face but below average body for a horrible massage and utterly uninspired sex? I had already refused the first choice, and it didn't feel right to also reject the second choice.
I told the papasan that I expected VIP girls to look and act like VIP girls. A C section scar the size of a shoe is a turnoff. 45 seconds of unskilled CBJ is a letdown. The papasan took my complaints, but wasn't particularly helpful or receptive. Looking back, there was more than one thing that wasn't right here. It was all hype, no substance.
Writing this off as a waste of time and big waste of money (by PI standards), I walked off and decided to try Starfleet instead.
From reading this forum, I don't doubt some guys have had great fun at AF1. I can just tell you it doesn't always work out that way. Don't believe everything you read! (especially when you're in AF1 and reading about phony offers like "2 girls for the price of 1" or "your choice of 6 massage oils!")
After I left I realized that I had accidentally pocketed my room key. It reads "flight 168 health spa" "CX 117 Marco Polo". Anyone have any ideas of what to do with it? Sell it on Monger-Ebay.com?
Bartchamdo
10-21-07, 04:24
(Continued from last post)
Finding Star Fleet once you leave AF1 couldn't be easier. A previous poster said it was 1k away, but this isn't accurate. It's one city block - more like 300 or 400 meters away. And there are a couple signs, making it easy to spot. Also there's a Chowking on the way, which you can use as a landmark.
At Star Fleet I had much better luck. I went to the Soapy area, and saw about 7 girls on duty, many busty and gorgeous. I got a recommendaton for Wanda. I forget her number, but it might have been #22, based on past reports.
In the room she was extremely personable, friendly, and knew what she was doing. I've had soapie massages in Thailand, and this was comparable. She didn't use all the techniques I'd seen the Thai girls use, but she definitely had her own skills. She had lovely wide breasts she massaged my whole soaped up body with. She also licked me all over before she started her CBJ. I only regret that I came so quickly with her. Would have been nice to draw it out a while.
The price was the same (4000p for full service), but the difference between SF and AF1 was like night and day. Also, on the way out the security guards were extremely helpful in getting a cab for me. They told me to wait in the air conditioned building while they flagged down a cab.
I liked SF so much that I came again later in my trip. I had just arrived at MNL int'l, and figured since I was so close I may as well visit, luggage and all. I checked out all 3 fishbowls. Due to the time of night, prices were up. Least expensive option was 3000p. I went with a recommendation again, #258. Her name was Beth. We started off well enough, but she got a bit of an attitude later on. I told her something I disliked in bed and she made a big deal out of it and treated me rather coldly for it. She hardly smiled the whole time. Definitely would not repeat with her. I probably should have done another soapy massage that night.
Wanda was such a prize that it made up for Beth. Overall, I would recommend Star Fleet.
In general in PI, I'm not sure asking for a recommendation makes sense. I kept getting bad advice. In my whole trip, I think the only good recommendation I received was for Wanda.
I truly enjoyed your report, well written, easy to read, and, obviously another distinct point of view which adds to the sum knowledge of everyone here.
Unfortunately, the one thing I will remember from this report is the following line:
I told her something I disliked in bed and she made a big deal out of it and treated me rather coldly for it.
All I am thinking is what could you have possibly told a massage girl that you *don't* like in bed that made her turn cold.... further, what could be something that you don't like that you would deliberately omit from here (presumably because you don't want people to know - no shame in that at all by the way - we twisted ones are the thing that keeps this world's sense of humour from dying out).
Please, do not construe this message as some sort of coercive mechanism to get you to tell us - if anything, I'd prefer you to think of it as the contrary. It's really got my imagination tingling and, to be honest, I'd rather not know - it'd take the fun out of my speculation.
Sorry again to focus on one very entertaining line of a very good report.
If anyone is interested, my bet is that he *doesn't* like the fish to still be alive while he wiggles it through her armpit making glug glug noises.
Bartchamdo
10-21-07, 07:02
All I am thinking is what could you have possibly told a massage girl that you *don't* like in bed that made her turn cold....
Thanks for the kind words. Your reply is well written and amusing itself.
I see what you mean. Maybe it came across as a little weird the way I phrased it. There's a part of my body I didn't want her to play with. I don't think it's a big deal and thought she was out of line for having any kind of attitude. Maybe she was just being kind of cold because I was taking a little while to cum and she was annoyed.
The thing I keep wondering is what other people in this forum think of recommendations. I've had great experience with following up on recommendations of people in this forum, but not in getting opinions from the papasan or mamasan.
But sometimes you're new to a place and don't know who to pick out of a lineup. How do you make up your mind?
Soju Lizard
10-21-07, 12:28
I had the pleasure of hitting all 3 places in Ermita last week and thought I'd pass on the following info:
G-Point was lively with a 3 girl/1 guy band (if you can call a Casio keyboard a band) but there weren't many FL's to choose from here on the night I went. Maybe one decent looking FL in the lot. If you like older women though, this is your place. The majority of the females here were 30+.
Amazonia is more laid back and quiet than the other two places and there is a large group of FL's to choose from. I bought a couple of drinks for two girls up from Samar as one was the best looking girl in the bar. There was no service charge or lady drink price like someone else reported going on in Amazonia. Their drinks were the same price as mine. Amazonia didn't have a band but I did like their mix of classic rock and modern rock with a few pop songs thrown in here and there. I almost took both the girls from Samar but I hadn't been to LA Cafe yet.
LA Cafe was just as crowded, noisy and smokey as I remembered it. I headed upstairs after about 20 minutes and can definitely say that the best looking FL's are here. The good news is that the mamasans are gone. I didn't see one of them and I'm not sure if it's related or not but the number of Koreans was much lower too. I think there were no more than 5 in the entire upstairs the night I went there. A word of warning though....the women of LA Cafe are hardened professionals. Yeah, they look great but you better keep your wits about you if you take one to your hotel room. Lock up your valuables in a room safe for sure. When you pull girls out of here you're dancing with the devil. Don't forget too that they don't bother with med checks.
Thanks for the kind words. Your reply is well written and amusing itself.
I see what you mean. Maybe it came across as a little weird the way I phrased it. There's a part of my body I didn't want her to play with. I don't think it's a big deal and thought she was out of line for having any kind of attitude. Maybe she was just being kind of cold because I was taking a little while to cum and she was annoyed.
The thing I keep wondering is what other people in this forum think of recommendations. I've had great experience with following up on recommendations of people in this forum, but not in getting opinions from the papasan or mamasan.
But sometimes you're new to a place and don't know who to pick out of a lineup. How do you make up your mind?
In getting to know some of the people at MPs, they told me that they when "newbies" ask for recommendations, they will often refer the one who has been longest without a customer--or the ones that they are friends with who may tip them.
My thoughts are that there are always reasons why a girl has not had a customer for a while...
Tell them what you want (petite, no kids, big breasts, young, etc.) and tell them you will be a regular (even if you won't), and you have a better shot of getting a good recommendation. If you do plan on going back, it might be a good idea to tip the guy also to insure you will always get good recommendations.
Just my thoughts...
But sometimes you're new to a place and don't know who to pick out of a lineup. How do you make up your mind?I just use the eye slot in the fishbowl and make eye contact with the ladies. If they don't smile or turn their heads, I don't take them. I have never (guess I have been lucky) had a bad time in AF1 or SF when I make eye contact with the lady.
Stay Safe,
Robb
Last Friday night I had four newbie’s, first timers in Manila and I took them out to EDSA. There were a total of six of us and after we all got our GROs (girlfriends rent overnight) we went to the hotel bar and partied until 2am and the girls all left together Saturday at 10am. Everything was going well until Saturday night when we went back to the bar to get our girls for another night on the town. One of the newbie’s is a 20 year old, blond hair, blue eye, Brad Pitt type and he got a really hot 19 year old and she wasn't in the bar when we arrived. The mamma told us that his girl was running late and to wait for a while. Of course he didn't have a cell as he had just arrived, so he didn't have her number. After an hour we wanted to bar hop and he paid her fine, told the mamma to find us when she showed up and send her over. Long story short she didn't show up, so I went back and got the fine back. My girl finally got a hold of his girl Sunday and she called me and told me that the girl is married to a Filipino and he lets her dance and drink, but no bar fine and when she showed up at noon Saturday, he hit the roof:eek:. She told my girl that my newbie was so cute that she just wanted to go:D
I love the Philippines...
Has Anyone Gone To The Grand Blvd Hotel As Of Lately? It Is Near The Central Bank On Roxas. I Know Where It Is But Never Gone There. I Have Been Told That They Have "fishbowl" On The 7th Or 8th Floor And Moderate Prices For Fun. Anyone Know If This Is Still Happening And If Worth While To See And Try?
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Hi Dcand4,
I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...
Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!
Jackson
LoveAsianWhores
11-02-07, 08:33
I don't understand how some mongers prefer new girls.I fall into the catagory of someone that LOVES new girls. In fact, I will spend an entire evening going from bar to bar to bar looking for a new girl. I love the shy nervousness of the girls. I love teaching them the business. I love the challange. I love the long night of getting them to take off their clothes, convincing them that it OK, showing them new positions. I love the fact they do not see themselves as prostitutes (yet), and give an emotional experiance that you cannot get from girls that have been doing this for a while. I love the fact that they often see you as a potential boyfriend and not a customer. I love the way they smell. Their hair, perfume and snatch. I love the way they kiss. I love the taste of their pussys. I love the fact that about a third off the girls will quit after their first customer as they decide that the line of work is not for them. So you end up with the phone number of nice girl, who is not getting pounded every night, but is allways willing to meet up with you for some extra cash. I love the look on their face when they see a western sized dick for the fist time. But what I REALLY LOVE is look on their face when they feel it inside them for the first time.
I hate pros. They way it is all about business. From their "hom much" in the bar, to their "give me more" after the fact. I hate their stinky pussys. I hate the way they just lie there while you fuck them. I hate the way they want to leave right after you blow their load.
But you are the lucky one. It is MUCH easier to find an experienced prostitute in Manila then a nice girl who is at their first day on the job.
Monster007
11-02-07, 19:17
I have stayed at the Grand Boulevard. It does have a fishbowl, but I forget which floor it is on. I used their services twice when I stayed there. Each time, there were only had 5 or 6 girls in the bowl when I went window shopping. Still, each time it was five different girls. I found the talent in the fishbowl to be acceptable. Their were some mutts and a few good lookers.
You tell the Mamasan at the desk by the window which number you want. She takes you to a room and asks you to shower and then the girl shows up in the room for a "rub down/message". These message rooms are on the same floor but on the opposite side of the elevators from the fishbowl.
I got good service from both the ladies I picked. Not necessarily GFE, but full service. I even got a message from both of them before f*cking their brains out.
I think the hotel is currently in some financial problems. Read an article that said the hotel was appealing some local decison about their ongoing operations. You can find the article if you do a google search of the hotel.
By the way, I hated staying there. Aircon in my room was horse shit and the room was not good. I will not stay there again.
Monster007
11-02-07, 19:39
I will be in Manila for a few days in November before I make my way to A. C. I was hoping for an answer to a question from one of you more experienced mongers who knows the Manila layout better than I do. I know about Burgous and the complex, but I am interested in the freelancer scene as well. The last time I was in Manila, the only bars where I found the Mongering to be good were the L. A. Cafe, Amzaonia, The G-Point, and Cafe Havana. (yes, I know about the explosion near the Havana.)
I tried the Hard Rock last time, but the cover charge kept the few freelancers I did see standing outside by the escalaters. I didn't see any available ladies in the place. Inside the bar, it seemed like all the ladies were with other guys or just there to dance to the band.
I also avoid the KTV bars as they are just not my thing. I would rather talk to them and then F*ck then than sing with them.
I would really like to try some new mongering type of bars. Are there any other bars, (non KTV's), in Manila worth my time for mongering, meeting and picking up freelancers or local girls looking to make some pesos? Other than the bars I mentioned above, any suggestions for mongering bars and their general location would be appreciated.
Thanks
Fast Eddie 48
11-04-07, 06:08
I have stayed at the Grand Boulevard. It does have a fishbowl, but I forget which floor it is on. I used their services twice when I stayed there. Each time, there were only had 5 or 6 girls in the bowl when I went window shopping. Still, each time it was five different girls. I found the talent in the fishbowl to be acceptable. Their were some mutts and a few good lookers.
You tell the Mamasan at the desk by the window which number you want. She takes you to a room and asks you to shower and then the girl shows up in the room for a "rub down/message". These message rooms are on the same floor but on the opposite side of the elevators from the fishbowl.
I got good service from both the ladies I picked. Not necessarily GFE, but full service. I even got a message from both of them before f*cking their brains out.
I think the hotel is currently in some financial problems. Read an article that said the hotel was appealing some local decison about their ongoing operations. You can find The article if you do a google search of the hotel.
By the way, I hated staying there. Aircon in my room was horse shit and the room was not good. I will not stay there again.Monster,
I don't know if you have been to grand lately but they change ownership about 2 yr ago now is call Mecury before it is the skyline sauna on the 9th fl.
the quality of the girl is good but the quality of the girl is way down now you are better off going to roman suite hotel phoenix sauna they have some nice girl there with FS same owner angie #82 have a model body.
PHOENIX sauna
Roman Suite Hotel 2nd fl 914 Arnaiz st
Ran Lerenzo Village Makati City 63-2-752-8207
Fast eddie 48
Monster,
I don't know if you have been to grand lately but they change ownership about 2 yr ago now is call Mecury before it is the skyline sauna on the 9th fl.
the quality of the girl is good but the quality of the girl is way down now you are better off going to roman suite hotel phoenix sauna they have some nice girl there with FS same owner angie #82 have a model body.
PHOENIX sauna
Roman Suite Hotel 2nd fl 914 Arnaiz st
Ran Lerenzo Village Makati City 63-2-752-8207
Fast eddie 48
Thanks for the info,
I went often to GB, I think the massage is on floor 7 (or 8). The service is ok, they work in 3 shifts, but one day you also screwed the best ones and you look for new "past time".
went to one place in makati, along burgos street, crossed Kaloocoan avenue (street where u can find danish connection) and walked straight. Is that Phoneix sauna? I found the selection at that time not so gud (afternoon) and the massage and service was so so, it was better in GB. SO, is that place Phoenix sauna or different place, If different can you give directions.
regards
Blink
Fast Eddie 48
11-04-07, 23:40
Thanks for the info,
I went often to GB, I think the massage is on floor 7 (or 8). The service is ok, they work in 3 shifts, but one day you also screwed the best ones and you look for new "past time".
went to one place in makati, along burgos street, crossed Kaloocoan avenue (street where u can find danish connection) and walked straight. Is that Phoneix sauna? I found the selection at that time not so gud (afternoon) and the massage and service was so so, it was better in GB. SO, is that place Phoenix sauna or different place, If different can you give directions.
regards
BlinkBlink,
You need to look at the map and read the post I even included the adress Phoenix is near glorietta 4 near the radisson hotel , I think the one near burgos is don pedro is also a good place just giver the adress to taxi driver.
Fast eddie 48
Asian Western
11-06-07, 23:42
I fall into the catagory of someone that LOVES new girls. In fact, I will spend an entire evening going from bar to bar to bar looking for a new girl. I love the shy nervousness of the girls. I love teaching them the business. I love the challange. I love the long night of getting them to take off their clothes, convincing them that it OK, showing them new positions. I love the fact they do not see themselves as prostitutes (yet), and give an emotional experiance that you cannot get from girls that have been doing this for a while. I love the fact that they often see you as a potential boyfriend and not a customer. I love the way they smell. Their hair, perfume and snatch. I love the way they kiss. I love the taste of their pussys. I love the fact that about a third off the girls will quit after their first customer as they decide that the line of work is not for them. So you end up with the phone number of nice girl, who is not getting pounded every night, but is allways willing to meet up with you for some extra cash. I love the look on their face when they see a western sized dick for the fist time. But what I REALLY LOVE is look on their face when they feel it inside them for the first time.
I hate pros. They way it is all about business. From their "hom much" in the bar, to their "give me more" after the fact. I hate their stinky pussys. I hate the way they just lie there while you fuck them. I hate the way they want to leave right after you blow their load.
But you are the lucky one. It is MUCH easier to find an experienced prostitute in Manila then a nice girl who is at their first day on the job.OK I feel just like you. Lived in Manila 20 years. Now I have alot of casual contacts but you can start with Bernadette (22) and Princess (18). I have their email addresses, chat addresses and cell nos. Just contact me with personal message. Prices very reasonable and negotiable. / Asian Western
Joel Goodsen
11-07-07, 13:24
I would really like to try some new mongering type of bars. Are there any other bars, (non KTV's), in Manila worth my time for mongering, meeting and picking up freelancers or local girls looking to make some pesos? Other than the bars I mentioned above, any suggestions for mongering bars and their general location would be appreciated.
Thanks
During the daytime and early evening hours there are two shopping malls that may be worth your while checking out for free range girls - local babes trying to pick up some pesos, Robinsons Place and Harrison Plaza. Both in Ermita. Robinsons is in walking distance from LA cafe. Some of the girls that actually work in the shops are not off-limits, if approached in a indirect manner. Cheers.
The Lucky Guy
11-07-07, 16:09
..I am interested in the freelancer scene as well. The last time I was in Manila, the only bars where I found the Mongering to be good were the L. A. Cafe, Amzaonia, The G-Point, and Cafe Havana.
Are there any other bars, (non KTV's), in Manila worth my time for mongering, meeting and picking up freelancers or local girls looking to make some pesos? Other than the bars I mentioned above, any suggestions for mongering bars and their general location would be appreciated.
During the daytime and early evening hours there are two shopping malls that may be worth your while checking out for free range girls - local babes trying to pick up some pesos, Robinsons Place and Harrison Plaza. Both in Ermita. Robinsons is in walking distance from LA cafe. Some of the girls that actually work in the shops are not off-limits, if approached in a indirect manner. Cheers.I'm really interested in the possibility of finding action during daytime. Are the P4P girls in the malls located in any specific place? What signs to look for? Can I approach them straightforward asking "how much" or do I have to buy coffe&cake and small talk with them first? I.e do I have to pretend or is it obvious that they are working girls?
My plan was to have the hotel close to daytime hunting and where I believe the best places for ST is; La Cafe, Amazonia etc (close = few minutes of walking) I have made a preliminary booking of Pearl Manila Hotel. Is it close to Robinsons Place and LA Cafe? Is it an overall good choice for being close to daytime and/or ST hunting (LA Cafe, Amazonia etc) I have attached a map where the blue dot with number "1" is Pearl. Approx where on the map is Robinson and LA Cafe?
Thanks for answers!
Captain America
11-07-07, 23:15
LA Café is just a 5 minute taxi ride towards manila bay, about 100PHP. There is lots of daytime action in LA, about 20 or so to pick from. Have lunch there and walk out with your dessert...
:-)
Joel Goodsen
11-08-07, 10:01
The Lucky Guy,
Padre Faura and Pedro Gil are on the map, so the cafe's and Robinsons can't be faraway. Captain is right, the cafe's are also ok for daytime freelancer pickups. For the two malls, I was referring to non-working girls, not P4P, regular shopping gals that don't mind making a few extra pesos. Definitely go for the indirect approach on these. 'how much' will put them off. Coffee&cake, small talk, yep. "would you like to see my hotel room??" .. There are also some unattractive LB's operating in the mall, avoid making eye-contact with them, they can be annoyingly persistent. Cheers.
Kavorka341
11-08-07, 10:44
Is there anywhere around Manila that offers glory holes?
Thanks in advance
Just to add a bit of common sense to this post, 99% of the women in the mall aren't looking for action. A much higher percentage will talk to you and smile and be friendly....but don't make an ass of yourself or your culture or your gender. If you find something interesting sit her down somewhere and talk to her.
The Ermita district has a reputation, so don't think for a minute that any woman thinks you're innocent (about PI). Go anywhere else for that.
Last time I checked, LA cafe was open in the afternoon...go there.
Padre Faura and Pedro Gil are the names of the wings of the mall, so who know where they might be.
X
The Lucky Guy,
Padre Faura and Pedro Gil are on the map, so the cafe's and Robinsons can't be faraway. Captain is right, the cafe's are also ok for daytime freelancer pickups. For the two malls, I was referring to non-working girls, not P4P, regular shopping gals that don't mind making a few extra pesos. Definitely go for the indirect approach on these. 'how much' will put them off. Coffee&cake, small talk, yep. "would you like to see my hotel room??" .. There are also some unattractive LB's operating in the mall, avoid making eye-contact with them, they can be annoyingly persistent. Cheers.
Joel Goodsen
11-08-07, 21:26
so don't think for a minute that any woman thinks you're innocent
X,
That's exactly the point. In Asian malls where there is either action close by or takes place, it's my experience that this has a rather nice spin-off effect on non-working girls that also visit the malls. They know exactly what is going on and hence are open for suggestion. Even girls that work in the shops -in the past at Robinsons I had an excellent experience with a girl that worked at a Travel agent. Cheers.
GoodEnough
11-08-07, 23:37
Just to add a bit of common sense to this post, 99% of the women in the mall aren't looking for action. A much higher percentage will talk to you and smile and be friendly....but don't make an ass of yourself or your culture or your gender. If you find something interesting sit her down somewhere and talk to her.
The Ermita district has a reputation, so don't think for a minute that any woman thinks you're innocent (about PI). Go anywhere else for that.
Last time I checked, LA cafe was open in the afternoon...go there.
Padre Faura and Pedro Gil are the names of the wings of the mall, so who know where they might be.
X
Padre Faura and Pedro Gil are streets in Ermita, and Padre Faura is the street on which G Point is located. If you exit LA Cafe, turn left, and walk up to the first large intersection with a traffic light, that's Padre Faura. If you then turn right and walk about three blocks, G Point will be on your right. I think Pedro Gil runs perpendicular to Padre Faura and intersects with Roxas Boulevard.
I don't know why GE is quoting me since the original poster was Lucky Guy...
Anyway, if my post was too abstract or confusing -- sorry. Referring to Lucky's map, the mall is in between the two streets named and is just SW of the hospital. As I said, the wings of the mall are named for the street. Since I kept getting disoriented in the mall, I started memorizing the place using FAG (Faura, Adriatico (sic?), Gil).
Joel, good point, I hadn't thought of it that way. Once I took a picture of an extremely cute lady at the Ermita mall. She turned out to be a student. She didn't have email so I got her mail address and a month later mailed the pic. I kept in touch with her and the next time I was in Manila, we met again at the mall. I started some light touch testing -- and she was unresponsive. Then she suddenly felt ill and wanted to leave. I guess I blew it! But as I walked her out to the taxi stand, I spied a busty lady looking like she was waiting for someone. Turns out she was waiting for me!
X
Padre Faura and Pedro Gil are streets in Ermita, and Padre Faura is the street on which G Point is located. If you exit LA Cafe, turn left, and walk up to the first large intersection with a traffic light, that's Padre Faura. If you then turn right and walk about three blocks, G Point will be on your right. I think Pedro Gil runs perpendicular to Padre Faura and intersects with Roxas Boulevard.
TrickyRick
11-10-07, 04:27
Ok boys just got back from phil exuse my spelling grammer etc. I went to amazonia, butterfly, gpoint, lacafe. Had 7 maybe 8 different gals. First pick butterfly not many here but wanted to eat in quite. Didn't happen this 33 freelancer started to rub my cock while I was eating. Her looks 6 out of 10 I talked then said makano (how much) 1000 pesos long time. I went for it her body slim but very saggy belly best to keep lights low there are a number of freelancers with saggy belly check them out if they are saggy no more than 1000. Her service was one of the best I ever had. I took the v pill she sucked min half an hour I couldn't cum but it felt great. Same thing in the morning kept her 2 days best BJ ever. She also got other gals for me I banged 1000 peso 2 stayed short time I said I let them go early since bed is small. Asia to me means long time bang them in the night then bang them in the morning any thing else is a dissapointment and I feel I ruin the market if I let them go early. U got to bargin they expect that and you are looked as stupid if you don't and pay too much. One I pu said up to you for price she stayed short time. She told me how easy money this was and happy she found out about lacafe. I gave her 1000 peso she complained I said hey you said up to you and I pay 1500 peso for long time and the clincher was I said hey don't be greedy how long would it take you to make that money working she grinned I gave her 100 peso for taki. So from there on I told them all if there price was high don't be greedy it helped in the bargining process.
I had a brief stay of 3 nights, mainly for business.
First night, I took a girl (Mira) from Hussy bar, P1500 for long time. She is from Cebu, has a 8 year old boy. Pretty good service.
Second night, went to Red Garter bar, as soon as I walked in, 2 ugliest girls started their sales promo. There were about 9 girls, 1 was very pretty, 2 were also quite god looking, rest were average. Did not take anyone as I had dinner plan.
Next night, enjoyed the live band at G point, very sexy singers. Took a girl from here, named Nina, and claimed that it was her second day on the job. She asked for P2000 for LT when it is already past midnight, negotiated down to P1500. She was very inexperienced in the bed, so her claim might be true.
I went to great LA Café. I found the environment horrible, so much smoke, those who don’t smoke will have tough time breathing after a while. I also did not like the girls, some were pretty, but on a close look, appeared to be hardened professionals, the type I don’t like that much.
I found the girls in smaller bars to be less businesslike, and friendlier. Girls from LA Café are all behave like sharks, of course there might be few exceptions.
I found the people in Phillipins are very courteous, and unlike Thailand, nobody tried to cheat me in any way. Cost of food and others things are cheaper than Bangkok.
KK1
The Long Weekend
After a long hiatus, I am now in Manila for a conference and had visions of my previous trip here ten years ago which was a trip into a land of joy and happiness.
Landed in Ninoy Aquino International Airport and had pre-arranged a hotel limo pick-up which cost USD50 (duh). First mistake as I realised that meter taxi will only cost an average of Peso 300 to go to Makati Shangri-La. (Some friends from Malaysia flew in via Air-Asia and they landed in Clark Airbase which is 3 hours drive away from Manila city, they will not fly Air- Asia again for Manila visits as the drive into the city was torturous)
The Makati Shangri-La is girl friendly with excellent attentive staff and good quality rooms and is walking distance to Greenbelt and Glorietta Shopping Complex, which has a vast choice of shops and restaurants.
Day 1
Started my journey into Air-force One (Health Spa and Karaoke), which is located in Paranaque City, located 10 mins from the airport and 45mins from Makati.
Went into the Spa which is called Flight 168 and the friendly captain, called Dick(no pun intended) showed us the goldfish bowl which had a selection of at least 50 girls to choose from and our eyes went berserk and brain went into overtime trying to choose our first “joy” of the day.
Happy hour prices (before 7pm) were PHP1200 for the room & massage and girls were PHP1200. If after 7pm, then the room/massage is now PHP1500 and the same goes for the girls. This is called economy class flight and if you fancy, there is also a business class flight for PHP2500 per room/massage and girls will also cost PHP2500.(Do note the girls are the same for all flight class)
The 3 of us took 2 girls each as we fancied 3somes. A note to be aware, is that most of the girls have ample cleavage and the boobs which are a treat for boob lovers, but do be also mindful that it may also come with a chubby body. Rooms are clean with decent shower and attentive staff. The girls will ask if you want the massage or sex first. After 7 hours of real flight time and with bulging blue balls, I opted for the 3some first in case I run out of time.(They allow 75mins).
The girls first started with a tits massage and heaven started to flow with 4 boobs rubbing you up and down with all those talcum powder. The first set then came for my mouth to enjoy and the 2nd girl started her CBJ on good old John Thomas. By then my hands and fingers were roaming and I also started to finger my tit provider and she was getting wet very fast.
They then both rub each others tits as a quick lesbian show before my cowgirl started whilst the tit provider came back for more pussy fingering. The cowgirl was very good with Beyonce style type of hip shaking to make you come faster. After 5 minutes, I asked to change as I wanted to do the other girl missionary and before long, John Thomas gave a final gun salute blasting all ammunitions. We all went for a joint shower, which was still a lot of rubbing and touching before we moved back to the bed for a massage.
Tipped the girls PHP300 on top of the PHP1200 which comes to a total damage of PHP4200 (PHP1200 for the room and PHP3000 for the 2 girls).
We then went next door to the Karaoke (next to the spa on the same floor) as did not fancy the traffic jam as it was a Friday. (8pm) The Karaoke is NOT recommended as the charges are very high, room was PHP 3000 per hour and girls were PHP 900 per hour. By then another 7 of my friends-in-crime came and we were the 10 brothers on a journey for 10 brides.
Next came the shocker as the Mamasan only brought in 6 girls as that is all she had available. Needless to say we only stayed for 2 hours. The next shocker and IMPORTANT warning is that they served fake hard liquor, which we only realised later when we were all comparing notes.
We then went on to Melate area which is near the Pan Pacific Hotel and Robinson’s dept store. We ventured into Piaje Bar which charged PHP350 per 90 mins for unlimited beers. (We stayed for 5 hours till closing and paid PHP1050 per pax for beers). LDs were PHP250 per drink and since we were the only guest we literally ran around the whole bar. By this time my 7 brothers had moved on to Burgos and the 3 of us more or less spent PHP30k for the full 5 hours with drinks all round for the 20 girls.
We then asked some of the selected ones to go back with us to our hotel. This is where the con-job started as we went first on a eating spree at supper, but when we were in the rooms, stories of having period, married and grandmother admitted to hospital and had to go immediately which all came out conveniently after the shower and supper. We were pissed with their “bad attitude” and politely kicked them out but still gave them cab monies.
By then it was 5.30am and John Thomas was still feeling hungry and called for massage service (yellow pages) and was quoted PH3500. In came a long hair beauty but was very mechanical and SOP. Not recommended unless you really need a quick release.
Day 2
Went scouting for another spa and the driver brought us to Utopia, which is located on the road to the airport. Went in and viewed the fishbowl which had about 8 girls but not too much to our liking and then went back to Air-Force One for another session. We finished and then went next door to the Japanese restaurant called Gyu Gyu Tei, which served very decent Japanese as the Japanese owner was very friendly and we chatted merilly away with him (We spoke conversational Japanese). The waitresses were very friendly and we also chatted them up for a date after their work hours. (The story will come in another FR).
We then checked out the Karaoke next door and they had 7 girls and charged PHP300 entrance fee and each girl will cost PHP800 per hour. We politely declined and went bar hopping where we started with Flamingos (next to White Bird) but the choices were so-so quality in terms of bar deco, seating arrangement and girls.
We then proceeded to go wild in the Burgos area for final session and they say the rest is history.
Hope all of you enjoyed the simple FR.
Have Fun
FD
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FreebieFan
11-13-07, 01:28
Great report Fun Dog. Reminds me of my own 20 hour drinking and sex mrathons in Manila.
Your lucky that you didn't get to go upstairs in Utopia. The health club near the airport.
I was there last month. Crappest rooms I've EVER been in. And I've been in a few, including a memorable one in Cebu where the ceiling leaked everywhere when it rained.
Anyways went upstairs in Utopia with one fair maiden. Got in shower with her. The shower head flew off and water came pouring out the spout.
Changed rooms and got in shower with her. The drain was filled with Filipina head hair. Was horrible.
One final try. The shower didn't work.
They gave me 50% discount on the room. They should have given me 50% on the girl. I ended up wanking myself to glory.
Why do these places not inspect their product. Or why do they think we are all happy to put up with shitholes.
The Long Weekend
Day 1
Started my journey into Air-force One (Health Spa and Karaoke), which is located in Paranaque City, located 10 mins from the airport and 45mins from Makati.
Went into the Spa which is called Flight 168 and the friendly captain, called Dick(no pun intended) showed us the goldfish bowl which had a selection of at least 50 girls to choose from and our eyes went berserk and brain went into overtime trying to choose our first “joy” of the day.
Happy hour prices (before 7pm) were PHP1200 for the room & massage and girls were PHP1200. If after 7pm, then the room/massage is now PHP1500 and the same goes for the girls. This is called economy class flight and if you fancy, there is also a business class flight for PHP2500 per room/massage and girls will also cost PHP2500.(Do note the girls are the same for all flight class)
Great report. The only thing I would point out is that the girls are not the same for each class. The Business Class is downstairs and has a different set of girls...
Sugoi - Apologies and you may be right but we did not really go downstairs as the captain mentioned to us it is the same girls....maybe due to competition between his girls and the other set of girls. Will definitely go for a lookie next tiem we are at AF1.
FreebieFan - Funny and "Not Amused" must have been going through your mind during your incident at Utopia. We were inspecting the fishbowl and then looked around the sofa/walls/furniture and realised the upkeep of the place was terrible, which prompted us to give the place a skip. We were lucky as we had a rented a van witha driver for the 10 of us.
Will be in Hong Kong next week and will post my FR then for your guys to enjoy especially the Mongkok scene and the "1 Lau 1 Fung" where the single P4P lady operates the service out of her apartment and have a homely feel. The apartment usually has a sign at the door and 2-3 stools outside her door for punters to wait their turn and service will cost between HKD400-600 depending on the quality.
Will post my next FR re KL especially the Karaoke and MP scene as did a tour, courtesy of my fellow mongers in the next few days.
OptimusPrime
11-14-07, 06:58
I wonder if covered BJ's are the norm at AF1. I really want to check that place out as I have heard that the girls can be pretty hot looking but if I wanted Tijuana service (covered BJ's, mechanical service) I can just go to TJ. Covered BJ's are worthless. Zero sensation. I have never had a covered BJ in AC and have also never caught anything. Spare me the with the condom police comments as I have found that most of the guys that preach condom use are chronic barebackers who don't want anyone else barebacking.
Was in Ermita a month ago and since I had had a very nice time at the Grand Boulevard Hotel fishbowl "sauna" back in March, I went back there. Got up to the 8th floor and there was pandemonium - they shooed me away and said it was temporarily closed. Looked like some staff were still on the way out to the stairs. Anyone know if it is open again and what happened? My guess is that there was a LE raid and somebody didn't pay off.
Any short time hotel near LA Cafe? I have see a Victoria Motel in Pasay..anything nearer?
Probably the nearest is at Amazonia, and you can pick up a friend to join you and your other friend there.
Any short time hotel near LA Cafe? I have see a Victoria Motel in Pasay..anything nearer?I have used Amazonia many times. Rates are 400 to 600P. When you leave LA Café, turn left and go one block, Amazonia is on the right. I pay for the room and turn on the air conditioning and go back downstairs for another drink with the girl. The rooms are very hot and bring your own condoms, they charge 100P each.
Notanocker
11-18-07, 08:52
I booked on the Internet - weekly rate P2800/night (not including breakfast) for a one bedroom suite. Daily rate would be P3584 so a substantual saving. Upon arrival at the hotel at 0845 off a redeye, close to full A320 two hour late Cebu Pacific flight ex Jakarta, my room was ready. Bellboy commented that they were only at 30 per cent occupancy but said as Christmas approached, occupancy would rise. The fittings in the one bedroom suite were first class. Two televisions - one in lounge, one in bedroom, and ditto for aircon, though the one in the lounge area was modern and noiseless; the one in the bedroom was noisy. Excellent storage space with a proper built in wardrobe in the bedroom and a large entertainment unit in the lounge. Two chairs and a round breakfast table as well as one two person sofa and one lounge chair completed the loungeroom while the bedroom had a queen and a single bed, and a rectangular, well lit table with chair. While the bathroom was a bit poky, it was adequate. Extensive room service menu available. Brekky available for P275 extra but I preferred to walk 300 metres to Robinsons Place Mall, Ermita and avail there. Free newspaper all day. A horribly confused rooster who crew for 10 minutes each morning between 0030 and 0130 instead of at dawn, and construction work at a building site along A. Mabini St using an archaic steam-driven pile-driver were the only annoyances. I will certainly stay here again, and yes, GF.
I have used Amazonia many times. Rates are 400 to 600P. When you leave LA Café, turn left and go one block, Amazonia is on the right. I pay for the room and turn on the air conditioning and go back downstairs for another drink with the girl. The rooms are very hot and bring your own condoms, they charge 100P each.Thanks mate. Was that the ole FIREHOUSE disco downstairs? /. Pre-Lim-memories. :.)
I will be spending a couple days in Manila, and will be staying at the Hyatt. I understand that the Hyatt is GF - is that correct? Where is the best and closest place to monger?
Amboy Whorist
11-22-07, 04:27
If you can pass for a local, ride the local transit, and are a hobbiest you can’t help but notice that signs for GRO’s wanted (Guest Relation Officer: an official job title that requires periodic health check ups) seem to abound in all kinds of places. I’ve always been curious of those small KTV (karoke places) that clearly cater to locals but I’ve been wary to check them out because I know I will have to fess up to being a Balikbayan (Someone of Filipino decent but living abroud and are just visiting). I’ll bite the bullet on this eventually and give you guys a heads up.
When I am up to it I just drop all pretense and come across as a gregarious American who happens to be Filipino. This actually always seems to work in my favor but sometimes you should just be wary. Plus I am sure it changes how they feel they can charge me.
Anyway I have also always wondered about who uses those hourly rate hotels in Quiapo (and other places). I know there are a number of girlie bars on Quezon Blvd [Manila] and Rizal Ave. but I figured there must be street walkers as well. BTW, I do not recommend that anyone who does not look like a local try what I did. I was a street kid from a major American city and even my spidersense was ringing the entire time on a few streets.
I was walking the area near Isetan Mall where the LRT and MRT run (Claro M. Recto Ave, Quezon Blvd, and Rizal Ave.) I saw a few scary ass Shabu/glue fiends who I would not fuck with someone elses dick. Then as I was about to give up, I saw one of those thin cute, morena girls who asked, “Gusto mo Gimick. (do you want a date/do something) To which I replied “Oo, magkano yan?” (Yes, how much). To my shock she said “400 lang”. So I said OK. I saw her on Rizal Ave. about 150 meters south of Recto.
Immediately she started to walk fast and I followed. The entire time I was thinking “is this a good idea” all the while I start to look around to see if I was being followed. Instinctively I grabbed a pen so I was ready to use it as a weapon if need be. She was walking so fast I had to rush to keep up but she did at least always look back to see if I was following.
I think she led me up Soler St. and then left into some alley. About 25 meters in she went into a lit door way. It was a stair way that… how do I put this. .. it looked like it was built to third world standards for little people. But it was clean and I still felt like I could cover my ass. Finally at the top of the stairs I could hear a TV and there were children watching it and then there was an old lady at a desk with an alter to the Virgin Mary behind her. It was very surreal. The most surreal part was hearing it was only 125 pesos for an hour.
When we got to the room it was a small cubicle with a plastic covered bed. She undressed but kept her T-Shirt on until I agreed to pay 500 instead of 400. She ended up being a dead fish with a bad attitude. I did learn a new word though. She was so not into it I went soft to which she would wine “Pasok” (enter), “pasok na” (enter already ).
She did no fore play and when I brought this up she said “my husband is in the next room will get mad if I do anything else”. At this point in retrospect I can see that only the little head was thinking. Bottom line I ended up giving her a total of P1200 for the worse fuck of my life. I did get a sense of what to locals do for paid sex and that was at least interesting.
The lesson I learned was “adventures are fun, be clear of what you want and ask for it (kinda hard with the language issues at times), don’t be a cheap fuck, and most importantly if it don't feel right walk away".
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Amboy Whorist
11-22-07, 04:30
If you can pass for a local, ride the local transit, and are a hobbiest you can’t help but notice that signs for GRO’s wanted (Guest Relation Officer: an official job title that requires periodic health check ups) seem to abound in all kinds of places. I’ve always been curious of those small KTV (karoke places) that clearly cater to locals but I’ve been wary to check them out because I know I will have to fess up to being a Balikbayan (Someone of Filipino decent but living abroad and are just visiting). I’ll bite the bullet on this eventually and give you guys a heads up.
When I am up to it I just drop all pretense and come across as a gregarious American who happens to be Filipino. This actually always seems to work in my favor but sometimes you should just be wary. Plus I am sure it changes how they feel they can charge me.
Anyway I have also always wondered about who uses those hourly rate hotels in Quiapo (and other places). I know there are a number of girlie bars on Quezon Blvd [Manila] and Rizal Ave. But I figured there must be street walkers as well. BTW, I do not recommend that anyone who does not look like a local try what I did. I was a street kid from a major American city and even my spidersense was ringing the entire time on a few streets.
I was walking the area near Isetan Mall where the LRT and MRT run (Claro M. Recto Ave, Quezon Blvd, and Rizal Ave.) I saw a few scary ass Shabu/glue fiends who I would not fuck with someone elses dick. Then as I was about to give up, I saw one of those thin cute, morena girls who asked, "Gusto mo Gimick. (do you want a date/do something) To which I replied "Oo, magkano yan? " (Yes, how much). To my shock she said "400 lang". So I said OK. I saw her on Rizal Ave. About 150 meters south of Recto.
Immediately she started to walk fast and I followed. The entire time I was thinking "is this a good idea" all the while I start to look around to see if I was being followed. Instinctively I grabbed a pen so I was ready to use it as a weapon if need be. She was walking so fast I had to rush to keep up but she did at least always look back to see if I was following.
I think she led me up Soler St. And then left into some alley. About 25 meters in she went into a lit door way. It was a stair way that. How do I put this. It looked like it was built to third world standards for little people. But it was clean and I still felt like I could cover my ass. Finally at the top of the stairs I could hear a TV and there were children watching it and then there was an old lady at a desk with an alter to the Virgin Mary behind her. It was very surreal. The most surreal part was hearing it was only 125 pesos for an hour.
When we got to the room it was a small cubicle with a plastic covered bed. She undressed but kept her T-Shirt on until I agreed to pay 500 instead of 400. She ended up being a dead fish with a bad attitude. I did learn a new word though. She was so not into it I went soft to which she would wine "Pasok" (enter), "pasok na" (enter already).
She did no fore play and when I brought this up she said "my husband is in the next room will get mad if I do anything else". At this point in retrospect I can see that only the little head was thinking. Bottom line I ended up giving her a total of P1200 for the worse fuck of my life. I did get a sense of what to locals do for paid sex and that was at least interesting.
The lesson I learned was "adventures are fun, be clear of what you want and ask for it (kinda hard with the language issues at times), don’t be a cheap fuck, and most importantly if it don't feel right walk away".
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Great post Amboy. I am not trying to start a flame war. 400 for a girl in a scary part of town. Hmmm. Yes, I know this is a Manila thread and I’m a bit of a Makati chap.
You can take a semi pro home from Greenbelt for 500 for cab fare. One of my favorite tricks is this. At my business I am on the phone with the U. S. Almost all night. I get off work at 6 AM. So I head up to Burgos. The girls are getting out of some places. There is this mini-van that drives about 20 of them home up on Kalayan by the burned out club. They will walk by you and ask you to take them home – their alternative is sleeping all day in the dorm and making no money. 500 ain’t that bad. I like picking them up in pairs.
Or. Hit the walkers North of Matrix. If they claim 1000 or 1500 say. It’s 6:30 AM. What are your choices. It’s me or no money. Of course be a bit nicer. I always play the – golly I wasn’t looking but if you’re up for it. I mean I had two girls not want to travel to Cavite so they offered me 800 for both (too bad my wife was back at our apartment – so not a move I could make).
I’m not saying I pay 500 every time for Makati but 1000 is pretty normal and 1500 I gotta have a reason. There are girls who know me who like me. We have fun. We talk. I buy them food, etc. Simple stuff. They’d rather get in off the street for less to hang with you a nice guy then take their chances.
Another trick is hit the massage parlors (Pheonix, Imperial, etc.). A lot of those girls have to go 2+ hors home. I had one who would just stay with me instead of taking a cab home. Why spend 200 on a cab when you have a semi-boyfriend, a warm shower (remember most homes don’t have hot water) and you’re two blocks from work.
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Amboy Whorist
11-22-07, 13:13
Pumpkinko thanks for your tips. I have also seen the women leave Maligaya when it closes but have not approached them yet. I'll test out your technique. Also where is the Matrix - what city and streets?
Thanks
Or. Hit the walkers North of Matrix. If they claim 1000 or 1500 say. It’s 6:30 AM. What are your choices. It’s me or no money. Of course be a bit nicer. I always play the – golly I wasn’t looking but if you’re up for it. I mean I had two girls not want to travel to Cavite so they offered me 800 for both (too bad my wife was back at our apartment – so not a move I could make).
I’m not saying I pay 500 every time for Makati but 1000 is pretty normal and 1500 I gotta have a reason. There are girls who know me who like me. We have fun. We talk. I buy them food, etc. Simple stuff. They’d rather get in off the street for less to hang with you a nice guy then take their chances.
Another trick is hit the massage parlors (Pheonix, Imperial, etc.). A lot of those girls have to go 2+ hors home. I had one who would just stay with me instead of taking a cab home. Why spend 200 on a cab when you have a semi-boyfriend, a warm shower (remember most homes don’t have hot water) and you’re two blocks from work.
Matrix is on P. Burgos across from the 88 Internet Cafe and of course -- a 7-11... Told you I was a Makati guy not Manila.
The whole thing is common sense... Go to Greenbelt. At the entrence to green belt 3 there will be a girl standing there (sometimes) -- ask if she wants to go for a walk. or the park area near green belt 3. Or walk along the the ground level outside greenbelt 3. Look for girl/girls on benches that are not rich girls shopping. Just normal types without 30 shopping bags. or along the fountain near Havana/Star Bucks. Avoid Star Bucks. They are there but the smoke will kill you. Not a judgement. I avoid bars b/c I cannot stand the smoke (or the cost.)
Or the bar in the Shangrala (expensive girls and a lot of older girls but some just wanting boyfriends) or Hard Rock (if you can tolerate smoking -- tend to be older types so I avoid).
Or walk up Makati. Intersection with Paseo de Roxas has working girls. These seem to be on the low end. and one corner has lady boys.
Pumpkinko thanks for your tips. I have also seen the women leave Maligaya when it closes but have not approached them yet. I'll test out your technique. Also where is the Matrix - what city and streets?
Thanks
Severin007
11-24-07, 09:17
Living in Manila, I have established a few places to go. There must be a few I am missing. Actually with a population of 16 million there gotta be LOTS of other places. Anyone got anything else besides what I have listed below?
(1) Burgos: Lots of clubs but expensive. Rather moribund with the exception of Flamingo, Montana and a few others. Seems like its gone into depression. There aren't so many new girls coming through as a consequence. They shot themselves in the foot by raising the bar fine to P3500.
(2) LA Cafe, Amazonia, etc: Mayor Lim cracked down in Malate. The only thing really happening is LA Cafe. The girls are not tested and its damn smoky. Some people rave about it. Its definitely not my cup a tea.
(3) EDSA Entertainment Complex: Cheap, lots of girls, lots of fun.
(4) Airforce One: Fishbowl. Played out.
What else??? I have heard about Quezon City and Pasig. Are they just overpriced fishbowls? Where do the Filipinos go? Also I noticed lots of Japanese places near Greenbelt. Are these worth going too?
Pointers appreciated!
American Local
11-25-07, 09:31
Stay away from Burgos. All those bars are owned by the same owners, about 2-3 of them. When they raise the prices on the drinks and bar fine, they all do it together. Greed is killing them now. Before, Burgos used to be a happening place, now it's a ghost town. When you buy a drink for a girl, it's 350pesos? ($8) Philippines is still a 3rd world country! You can go to Malate or EDSA and the barfine is only 1000 pesos (instead of 3500 at Burgos) and the girls are much friendlier, prettier, nicer, etc. Plus, I hate being mobbed by the girls at Burgos, pressuring me for drinks and the mamasans coming by every three minutes to buy more drinks.
Contrary to popular belief, the not all girls on Burgos are tested and clean. I know this because we have dated a few girls. Especially at Flamingo, girls there are known to have STD's and use shabu.
If you've been to Burgos, you will notice that most of the bars kind of look and feel the same. It's because all of them are owned by the same owners.
As my name suggests, am 100% completely pinoy.
Sad as it may be, I hope our foreign friends and you too, don't risk going to Quiapo and the Isetann place you went to again. Lot's of scammers there.
Even us Filipinos c\can get duped in the place that you went too.
Good thing, they didn't trick you there.
Happy hunting
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Looks like trouble in Manila?
GermanBoy 2
12-01-07, 00:05
Have had a evening at both places, and in my eyes EDSA is the winner. Some detailed words.
Burgos:
Burgos Street in Makati has a big number of different Go Go Bars, maybe arround 20, I did not count. Outside there are a few freelancers, but also a lot of Ladyboys. There are 2 bars GoGo-Free, so you can sit there and watch the scene, but its not really spectaculas.
Inside the Bars the beer was arround 100, a ladydrink 350. If you come inside, you are attached by minimum half a douzend of girls. I do not like that. I prefer first to sit down, look arround a while and choose from the menue. If 5 more or less cutties are standing in front of you, starting the "where-do-you-come-from-session", I feel always like I can miss the best. Also the mamasans are very offensive, and start to ask very early whom you want to bye a ladydrink. Bar fine is 3500, but there is a chance to catch phone numbers if the mamasan and the other gils do not look for a moment. Anyway: if you love bar-hopping, its a good place, cause you have more optons as in:
EDSA
EDSA entertainement complex is across heritage hotel. There are 7 bars inside, some with half a dozend of ladies, others with more then 50. I felt much more compfortable here, cause you could walk in and have a seat and a drink without being hasseld. But its funny: if a korean or japanese will enter, the girls are much more active. Beer is 110, softdrinks 77 and ladydrinks 185. If you want to take a lady out, they said a minimum of 2 ladydrinks is requiered. Bar fine is 1000, 2500 for short time (3 hours), I have forgotten long-time-rate. Girls seems to be more beautiful in here, but thats a question of taste, everybody has to see for its own. Opening Hours are 7pm to 3 am. Taxi from Ermita (Bayview Park Hotel) was 80 peso.
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GermanBoy 2
12-01-07, 00:18
Had a flight back to europe at 6 am, which means to be arround 3. 30 at the manila airport. So whats to do before. Sleeping? Of course not. I decided to try one of the edsa bar girls and went there arround 9 pm. Most of the bars have been empty, only one or two customers inside, and most of the girls seems to be board. I made some barhopping and went after an hour back to the first place, which is called "cowboys". Maybe 50 girls try to do some dancing movements in rediculous cowboy costumes.
I asked the mamasan about the name from a cute dancing girl, and she told her to come. If I remember right, it was Micky, 20 year old from negros. Very slim, very cute, all right in english. We chatted a while, and get closer. I told her about my early flight, and she agreed to short time (2500) plus the 1000 bar fine.
On the way back in the taxi we started to be tender and kissings, and this continued in the hotel. Very sweet, as I like it. She went to shower, and so did I. Ohhhhhh. Mistake. She has had 5 minutes for her own, and realized, that her cell phone was away. I called reception, but she did not left it there while doing all the registration. We tried to call her number, but nobody picked up. She searched 10 times in here little handback, but it was obvious at the first time that there is no cellphone inside, pretty good chance that she left it inside the cab.
Moments of romance have been away. Big tears. "every number I have is there, ohh, I do not know number of my parents". I believe, these girls are cute and beautiful, but not always the most clever ones. I asked her if she prefers to go back, she said "oh and it was a gift from my mum". After 15 more very sad minutes I told her, that it is better if she will go back. And search her phone in the bar. Gave her 200 for taxi and my good wishes.
And very unexpected, I had a 2 hour sleep before I had to go to airport. Alone. But also not bad:.)
I've seen some bad reports on Burgos Street here and thought I share my experience.
I too was facinated with Burgos Street on my first few visits to Manila and had fallen for buying girlie drinks to practically 1/2 of the girlie population in Burgos St. P350 for a glass of ice tea in a shot glass. Paid barfine before (P3000) + P3000 for the girl. The girls there are very aggresive! And yes, they swamped you like flies on a piece of shit. All screaming, "me, me, me", "buy me a drink". All desprate for commission on their girlie drinks. I am not a cheapskate but the approach is too hard.
I have learn it the hard way for being broke as a joke on every visits. Silly way of thinking with my dick.
Now, I would only frequent:
1. LACafe - Freelancers that will charge P3000 - P3500 (if you're lucky: P2500). Cheap booze! St. Miguel. Always has a good band playing. Girls to choose from when gulping your beer. A few girls would even try an impress you by jumping on the podium for some pole dancing action! The girls will leave you alone unless you call them over. No girlie drinks but the drinks there are cheap. You can sit back, relax and activate your pussy scanner.
2. Havana Club (Greenbelt) - Open concept with girls everywhere. Freelancers sitting and pretending to be a normal patron. But beware of the really normal girls/patron and ladyboys!!! The ladyboys of Makati are really beautiful with flawless skin (unless this is your forte).
Freelancer are the best as they get to keep all of their hard earned cash. Wouldn't mind tipping them for a good service provided they agreed on a reasonable price.
Happy hunting!
I agree completely. I've stayed in makati and visted burgos several times in past years and thought it was great but more recently got frstrated with the constant pressure to spend ridiculous amounts of money in the bars so I don't go there much anymore. I also don't mind spending some money and am not extremely cheap, but also don't like getting taken advantage of. Seems like typical stupid shortsighted thinking. Driving good paying customers away. If they would just ease off a bit, their business would probably improve since they'd have more customers.
I've seen some bad reports on Burgos Street here and thought I share my experience.
I too was facinated with Burgos Street on my first few visits to Manila and had fallen for buying girlie drinks to practically 1/2 of the girlie population in Burgos St. P350 for a glass of ice tea in a shot glass. Paid barfine before (P3000) + P3000 for the girl. The girls there are very aggresive! And yes, they swamped you like flies on a piece of shit. All screaming, "me, me, me", "buy me a drink". All desprate for commission on their girlie drinks. I am not a cheapskate but the approach is too hard.
I have learn it the hard way for being broke as a joke on every visits. Silly way of thinking with my dick.
Now, I would only frequent:
1. LACafe - Freelancers that will charge P3000 - P3500 (if you're lucky: P2500). Cheap booze! St. Miguel. Always has a good band playing. Girls to choose from when gulping your beer. A few girls would even try an impress you by jumping on the podium for some pole dancing action! The girls will leave you alone unless you call them over. No girlie drinks but the drinks there are cheap. You can sit back, relax and activate your pussy scanner.
2. Havana Club (Greenbelt) - Open concept with girls everywhere. Freelancers sitting and pretending to be a normal patron. But beware of the really normal girls/patron and ladyboys!!! The ladyboys of Makati are really beautiful with flawless skin (unless this is your forte).
Freelancer are the best as they get to keep all of their hard earned cash. Wouldn't mind tipping them for a good service provided they agreed on a reasonable price.
Happy hunting!
I've seen some bad reports on Burgos Street here and thought I share my experience.
I too was facinated with Burgos Street on my first few visits to Manila and had fallen for buying girlie drinks to practically 1/2 of the girlie population in Burgos St. P350 for a glass of ice tea in a shot glass. Paid barfine before (P3000) + P3000 for the girl. The girls there are very aggresive! And yes, they swamped you like flies on a piece of shit. All screaming, "me, me, me", "buy me a drink". All desprate for commission on their girlie drinks. I am not a cheapskate but the approach is too hard.
I have learn it the hard way for being broke as a joke on every visits. Silly way of thinking with my dick.
Now, I would only frequent:
1. LACafe - Freelancers that will charge P3000 - P3500 (if you're lucky: P2500). Cheap booze! St. Miguel. Always has a good band playing. Girls to choose from when gulping your beer. A few girls would even try an impress you by jumping on the podium for some pole dancing action! The girls will leave you alone unless you call them over. No girlie drinks but the drinks there are cheap. You can sit back, relax and activate your pussy scanner.
2. Havana Club (Greenbelt) - Open concept with girls everywhere. Freelancers sitting and pretending to be a normal patron. But beware of the really normal girls/patron and ladyboys!!! The ladyboys of Makati are really beautiful with flawless skin (unless this is your forte).
Freelancer are the best as they get to keep all of their hard earned cash. Wouldn't mind tipping them for a good service provided they agreed on a reasonable price.
Happy hunting!I agree with you, Havana is going to be the best in town.
Just in case you guys might still end up in Burgos St. My suggestion is to:
Go in, scan for your choice, buy her 1 (and only 1) girly drink and negotiate for her to go to your hotel.
This is a win-win method used. You don't have to pay Barfine and the girl gets business from you. But they can only see you after work! 3AM! Do this is you are planning to stay awake the whole night.
McGillicutty
12-05-07, 04:00
Report Day One:
Got to the airport. Made it through customs pretty quick and into my cab. This is the first time I didn't have a cabbie trying to hook me up with some p4p. Although he did, like the three other cabbies from my previous trips, try to talk me out of my reservations at the Executive Plaza Hotel. I think it is in a good spot and has the right attitude, but alas I digress, there is an entire thread just for hotels. Got to the hotel, got my room key, spied the smoking hot women working there and I wished that in some world they were not about to pay witness the debauchery I would be committing over the next twelve days. Because let's be honest. I wouldn't have anything to do with me after that if I were them.
Right off the bat I got to work. I tried some advice in the chat room thread and decided to try my luck with a CB girl. Out of all the girls interested I narrowed it down to one. It is most likely a huge waste of both our times, but if we can talk a bit and I get a little play after a week or so, all the better. I got plenty of time to play at night when she is not around. I arranged to meet her and two of her cousins at Robinson's. I let the two cousins come because hey, if I was a chick I would not meet some strange dude from another country all by myself. We agreed that she could have others there the first day but after that, it is just me and her. I asked her if they wanted to eat lunch and she said yeah. So we ate and then went to one of those family karaoke bars and got a room where I sang very poorly and the three of them were gracious enough to forgive me. We stayed there about an hour then she got a text from her Mom telling her it was time to come home. We said goodbyes and the three of them piled into a jeepney for the trip back to Quezon City. I ringed my hands, tapped into my steely reserve, got into the nearest cab and said, "EDSA complex". It was around 8PM.
The driver refused to use the meter so I got out, walked the block to my hotel, and asked the guys at the door to get me a metered cab. On a side note, the doormen here are great. I had a little afternoon delight one day on a previous visit, sent her on her way and lo and behold, two minutes later the front door was calling me to see if it was OK for my guest to leave. Now that is a "girl friendly" hotel. Nothing says service to me like "bring him here, knock the bottom out, and oh yeah, if they decided to rob you, we will stop them. " But I digress, got in the cab the doormen got me and I was off. The driver was taking a very odd route. When I asked him about it he said they blocked off a decent chunk of Roxas for some big party. As we were taking one turn, the driver reached around and locked all the doors. That was a bit disconcerting. We then proceeded down some real sketchy neighborhoods. As I was trying to figure out how to kill the taxi driver before they kidnap me the driver asks, "So you are looking for #1 talent? " I replied, "EDSA complex please. " He says, "I know a place, very good talent, you very happy. " I asked him the name of the place. He said it was some place called "Destiny". I never heard of it. He tells me that if he can take me there the cab ride is free. By this time we are finally back on Roxas after all the detours and I was feeling a little more comfortable. I know enough about mongering to know that I should never have to go to a place that needs a tout. I tell him, "EDSA complex please. " He grumbles something I don't really understand and five minutes later, for the first time in my life I beheld the wondrous beauty that is EDSA. Cab fare was around 200 peso. The metal detector at the entrance was a little disturbing but hey, in Davao there are armed guards outside stores in the mall, so this is not that bad. I found EDSA a bit overwhelming. All the posts I read made it clear that the place is real low pressure and that is what I wanted.
I wandered into the country bar first, despite the numerous attempts by the guys outside the other bars barking to get my attention and lead me into their houses of I'll-repute. They had pretty annoying dance music playing and probably twenty-five to thirty girls "dancing" on the stage. I call it "dancing" because almost every single girl looked like their mind was in their "happy place" and their body was making a very half-hearted attempt at dancing. Like if you had pointed a gun at them and told them to dance, but without the tears. They were dressed in these adorable little bikinis made of faux leather with little tassels, like a really hot Pocahontas. Made eye contact with a couple. Based on previous post, I wasn't even going to think about any girls that won't maintain eye contact with me. Mamasan came over and asked me who I wanted. I told her I would let her know when I was ready. She left and didn't bother me again. Deciding it would be better not to settle before I saw what was out there and after one frosty and refreshing San Miguel (110 peso) I headed over to the Cotton Club.
About ten girls were dancing to the same crappy dance music. No matching bikinis here and it was apparent that all the girls were slightly lower quality than the country bar girls. Better dancing though. Would describe it as "Pointed a gun at them and told them to dance, but without the tears, and they really, really wanted to live. " I sat down real far back in the bar. A mamasan went and moved two girls off the big stage and tried to move them to a smaller stage near me. I told mamasan not to bother that I would sit in front of the stage. I enjoyed another delicious and refreshing San Miguel (120 peso) and then made my way over to the Firehouse.
Even worse music than the other two bars with around fifty girls "dancing". All girls had on matching bikinis and I would rate their talent as better than the Cotton Club but not as good as the country bar. I ordered another San Miguel (110 peso). This chick in a business suit, very "thick" and definitely not talent, hovered over me for about five minutes. I told her that I would tell her when I was ready to make a choice. She asked me if I wanted a massage from her. I've seen these types of folks before in LA Cafe, they give great massages, but I was not really in the mood for that so I told her, "No, thank you. " Wasn't really too impressed with an of the girls so after my beer was done I headed back to the country bar, I was ready to make my choice. I really should of checked out the other three or four bars, but I don't think I could handle that many more beers and not suffer a little in the "performance department" later on.
I immediately noticed there were twice as many girls in there now as the last time I visited, all pretty decent. But one in particular had caught my eye earlier and I was having trouble finding her. All the girls that had been dancing when I walked in were now sitting throughout the bar. I ordered another beer (110 peso), shooed away the mamasan again and started scanning the bar for tonight's entertainment. While I was looking, two girls came over and sat down next to me and started talking to me, both were good looking, just not my choice for the evening. I did my best to ignore them and they got the hint when the bartender asked if I would like to buy them a drink and I told her very clearly, "No. " I finally found the one I wanted all the across the bar. I motioned for mamasan to come over and I pointed out which one I wanted. Mamasan pulled out a laser pointer and shined it across the room to verify my selection. My choice for the evening was "Vicky". Very pleasant looking face, and tight body. Breasts were small, but huge breasts is not really my cup of tea. We talked a bit, the same boring stuff every girl in every bar asks you: Where are you from? How long are you staying? Is this your first time in the Philippines? How many times have you been here to EDSA? Are you married? Do you have a girlfriend? While burning through the stupid questions I buy her two ladies' drinks (195 peso each) based on the previous posts discussing that being part of the bar fine at this bar. Mamasan was sitting next to me trying to get this japanese guy to make a selection. She diverted here attention to me and asked if I would like to take Vicky home. I told her I would. She asked Vicky how many ladies' drinks she had. Vicky told her she had two drinks. Mamasan quoted me a bar fine of 1000 pesos. This matched previous posts so I agreed. I asked Vicky how much she wanted for LT. She told me 4000 pesos. Previous posts discussed 2500 pesos for ST (3 hours), so I figured 1500 pesos more for another five to six hours was not that bad and agreed. Part of me wanted to haggle just on principle, but this was my first visit here. I'll get the hang of things and press fo a better deal next time if it is out there. We rushed into a cab waiting outside.
Great! Another dirt bag cabbie that will not use his meter. I ask him how much he wants and he quotes me 200 pesos. That is probably twice what the meter would read but at this point I was not thinking with the right head and told him that was fine. We get to the hotel, no problems getting her in and up to my room. I tell her that I am going to shower and brush my teeth and asked her if she would like to take a shower after me and she agreed. Now to the good stuff.
She comes out of the shower with just her towel on. I was in bed in my underwear watching TV. I turn off the lights but can still see fine by the glow of the TV. She crawls under the covers with me and we start making out like a couple of high schoolers. She is very receptive to me and we start to explore each others bodies. Very GFE experience. She asks me for a condom, and having the experiences I have had here, I told her to take one of many out of the drawer next to the bed. I guess one reason the girls do not carry them is because they are considered "tools of prostitution" by the police (very enlightened), or maybe it is just the culture, but I always bring my own. Round one was pretty good, covered mish (very passionate) to doggie for my first cup of coffee. I came pretty hard for a lot longer than I am used to. That first cup of coffee was worth the 4000 pesos alone. After awhile I directed her to give me oral pleasure. She delivered a rather amateur BBBJ, but given that there was no rain coat on it still felt pretty good and I got my second cup of coffee after about ten minutes. We then went to sleep.
At about 7AM I woke up to oral pleasure, take two. Very nice alarm clock if you ask me. She asked if she could get another condom, I motioned towards the drawer and she got one out. Did covered cowgirl and reverse cowgirl for cup of coffee number three. All in all, she was a very good girl. After she got out of the shower I asked if she wanted some breakfast. She said she would. Before we headed down I paid her. During breakfast we exchanged cell phone numbers and agreed to meet again for a day date this weekend.
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Report Day One: Nice positive report, looking forward for Day Two.
I like your eye contact requirement. If she ain't interested look for some one who is.
Slim
Great report, actually laughed out loud at the descriptions of dancing style.
McGillicutty
12-06-07, 02:02
Manila Trip Report Day Two:
Today I was supposed to meet CG girl for a nice little day outing but she texts me and tells me that her mother says she cannot go without the friends from Day One. One of them has work and another has to go to school. Well there goes my day. The whole purpose of this CB thing was to have something to do during the day anyway, but oh well. Around 5pm I get a call from "Vicky" from Day One. She wants to hook up again. It wasn't so bad the night before so I figure, why not? I swing by EDSA, two ladies drinks and 1000 pesos later she's mine. We swing by a japanese restaurant and get some sushi. Then back to the hotel for shower time and some fun.
Two words, Very Disappointing. Service was pretty passionate, covered mish, a little doggie, and then BBBJTC. After that she went to sleep. We woke up and I tried for a round two but got blocked. Never being one to commit sexual assault I took a shower. She showered, took her payment, then I escorted her to the door of the hotel. Unfortunately, I will not be seeing her again. Let me pause for a minute while I delete her from my cell phone. Okay, done. Well, tomorrow I am supposed to see CB girl during the day and meet her family. I am certain that will be a barrel of joy. "No m'am, I am not here to violate your daughter fifty different ways after I earn her trust. "
Until tomorrow.
Arrived in Manila around 10: 30 PM, so I knew the bars would all be open for some time to come, Checked into the Hyatt. The Hyatt is actually a pretty good bargin compared to other hotels in Asia. My rate is US$148 including all taxes.
After my shower and change of clothes, I visited the Lounge at the Hyatt for a couple of drinks. The Hyatt is more "Girl Friendly" than I anticipated. I was somewhat surprised to find a mama-san in the Hyatt Lounge with three girls who I assumed were not her daughters. I would rate two of them as 8's and there was one 7. While I was having my drink a couple Korean guys came and visited the table, and sure enough left with one girl each.
My plan was to Visit LA Cafe, to see if it lived up to expectations. Actually, the LA Cafe is about 100 meters from the Hyatt, which was a pleasant surprise. The doorman gave me the easy directions, but warned me not to stray too far from the main street.
The LA Cafe pretty much lived up to expectations. On one of the reports I read, someone recommended the second floor as the better hunting ground. I agree totally. The cover was P100. Downstairs is OK, but the level of what you will find upstairs is dramatically better. I had a couple beers (P100) while I checked out the scene. Perhaps my jet lag was kicking in, but all the chicks I found appealing were with other guys. At one point, a sweet young thing approached me with three of her friends. They were all about 6-7, but none of them really rang my chimes. I wonder is maybe I was a bit late in the evening. I arrived around 1 AM, so I will have to try it again tomorrow.
On my way back to the hotel, I turned the wrong way and saw the Amazonia. I went in to check it out. While I was having a beer, I was suddenly getting a back massage from a very average looking chick. It took me a full five minutes to have her stop. She repeatedly told me that I could have her "very cheap". All the more reason to try to get rid of her. After I got rid of her, I saw a solid 9 sitting with an older western guy across the bar. I followed earlier advice from the board, and made direct eye-contact with her. After a few minutes, she got up and walked over to see me.
As we were getting aquainted, I got additional back rubs from two other chicks. It was a very strange occurance, but I guess just because I was with someone, it didn't make any difference to them. Not unlike my eye contact with the 9 across the bar with another guy. Just more direct.
My new friend is named Katherine, and is a beautiful woman. Great figure and even better tits. About 5' tall, but a great package. After a couple of drinks, we negotiated the rate for LT. She started at P3, 500 but agreed on P2, 500. As we came out of the Amazonia, I again started to walk in what I thought was the direction to the Hyatt. This is when I learned that I turned the wrong way in exiting the LA Cafe. It must have been fate.
There were no problems getting her into the Hyatt. We just walked through the door. It must have been about 3AM. She was fantastic! Started with a BJ and DATY, and follwed with about every imaginable position. Finished with cowgirl, then took a bath since the shower only had cold water. Woke up about 9 in the morning, and went on a repeat of round 1. Had breakfast in the room, and had round 3. Since I had business appointments in the afternoon, she reluctently left around 12:30. I will certainly be on the lookout for her again. Remarkably, she doesn't have a cell phone, so I was unable to get her number.
Stay tuned for Day 2.
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I will certainly be on the lookout for her again. Remarkably, she doesn't have a cell phone, so I was unable to get her number.Nice report Woodman. I would be willing to bet she had a cell, but maybe she is married and was looking for extra money and didn't want you to ring her while she was with her husband.
I was with a lady (non-pro) that worked in a cell phone booth in one hotel, but only during the day time. After 8 pm she wouldn't answer any texts until morning and then always some excuse...asleep/low battery...whatever:confused:
Finally I asked her if she was married and she replied yes:( but was looking for a new husband:eek:
Robb
Woodman
This is not directed to you alone, a question that I always wanted to ask some fellow mongers.
Unless your company pays for the accomodation, why would some one stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel then try to bargain for a date?
Shouldn't it be the other way around? Bargain for the bed you sleep in and go all out for the girl that makes you feel 1000 times better than the stupid bed.
Just my opinion.
Woodman
This is not directed to you alone, a question that I always wanted to ask some fellow mongers.
Unless your company pays for the accomodation, why would some one stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel then try to bargain for a date?
Shouldn't it be the other way around? Bargain for the bed you sleep in and go all out for the girl that makes you feel 1000 times better than the stupid bed.
Just my opinion.Columpuss,
My company always pays for my accomodations and expenses (less my mongering activities). As an avid monger, I know that there is a fair price for everything, and paying too much ruins it for everyone. Actually, if you read the boards, I paid about the right price. Paying the right (fair market) price also means I have more money for future encounters.
I wish Day 2 was as good as Day 1. I will write later on those results.
Woodman
McGillicutty
12-07-07, 10:32
manila report day three:
so today is the day i get to meet cb girl's family. i get a txt around noon telling me she is going to be late. i am starting to think that taking the train to quezon city may not be the fastest way to get there. they all keep asking me if i am afraid to ride the train, like they all know something i don't. i have ridden light rail in japan, russia, malaysia, hong kong, and singapore. i'm not really intimidated by the prospect of finding my way to and fro in these places. pictures of manila's light rail look suprisingly modern on their website, and i am not too worried about crime. i never carry too much on me, and as an american of viking descent, i tower over most people here. that is not to say that someone with a weapon is not going to try anything, but most people think twice. all i have to do is put my "game face" on and even the touts don't say a word to me. but it is just a game, i'm not really that tough. someone tries to rob me, they are welcome to my money. i can always get more. i just think most people do not want to talk to a foreigner that looks pissed off. i learned the trick in tokyo's roppongi district, with all the nigerian touts trying to get you to go to their rip off clubs. they fail to understand that if you have a pulse and a foreign penis, you can bang any japanese chick in roppongi real easy, just smile and you are in. these guys are literally every three feet there and all of them will try to stop you. so i started walking around like i was pissed off and looking for someone and to my surprise, not one of them bothered me. of course, eye contact with them is strictly forbidden as it just invites them in. but i digress, i told you she was going to be late so i figure i had time for a story.
around 130pm she finally arrives. to make up for lost time i arrange for transportation from the hotel directly to her house. they want an exorbitant sum of money and seeing as how want to get back with plenty of time to go mongering i agree. 2000 pesos later i was in quezon city with my own driver. he parked the car in a nice spot and gave me his cell and told me to text him when i was ready to go. the whole time we are walking to the house she keeps apologizing for how small her house is. she doesn't realize that she is so hot, i could really care less if it was a cardboard box. by now i am used to the way everyone stares at me, especially the little kids. not so much like i am a delicious piece of meat, but more like i am the first white guy they have ever seen (shiny new toy). i put on my "respectful face", greet her mother and thank her very much for inviting me into her house. a quick look around tells me a few things. the house isn't bad for the philippines. two stories, pink (gah! ), with an iron gate over every entrance. i notice right off the bat a working phone with a dsl splitter coming out of the wall going upstairs to where, i presume, the computer i have been talking to cb girl resides. i spy an empty box for a usb scanner in the corner. a karaoke machine in the living room and modern appliances in the kitchen.
so now my "spidey sense" is really starting to tingle. i see a lot of pictures up but none with any men in it. so, to make a long story short, through subtle conversation i figured out a few things that assuaged my apprehension. apparently cb girl was married to a guy in japan. he died of cancer a year ago. interestingly enough, i saw pictures of the two of them together with him. he had been through a lot of chemotherapy and didn't look too good (missing hair and all). so i will chalk that up to "not a lie". her sister is a nurse that lives in maryland and is married to a guy in the military. those two things seem to jive with what i saw. later she also told me that her father died when she was eighteen. based on a lot of our conversations she considered herself "damaged goods" because she was a widow. not sure why anyone would not be interested in her. but given that every important man in her life has died, she is bound to have some issues. regardless, i continued on. i talked with her mom and older brother a bit. they were not too subtly trying to determine m intentions. hopefully i fooled them. if not, i am pretty sure the machete will be coming out soon. then they fire up the karaoke machine. apparently i am some sort of circus attraction and everyone has their ticket and wants a piece of me. every other song i am getting the mic shoved in my face to sing. whenever i glance outside i can see at least two dozen adults and children piled on top of each other trying to look in the windows. this is on top of the fifteen or so adults and children in the living room. people keep bringing me their kids to hold and look at, as if seeking my approval. i kind of felt like that old guy at the beginning of "300" examining the spartan children for defects. i wonder if i had expressed disapproval if they would have chunked their kids down a hillside on to the top of a huge pile of other dead children, like in the movie?
now comes the food. i realize i am a little fat, but damn. they had made enough food for three families and there was only about five of us eating. i ate a little bit of everything. i was happy not to see anything too exotic. no balut, no chicken feet, thank god. the food was all pretty good. the only part i didn't like was them shoveling more and more on my plate with every bite i took. cb girl was really starting to impress me. she was totally serving me. it got so bad that i could not even get my own chips out of the bag. i would just point at a bag and she would retrieve several chips and feed them to me. this went on throughout the entire visit. it was kind of nice, in a creepy, really, really sexist way. i can see how a japanese guy would eat this stuff up. all in all it was a really good time. i got a cab back to the city ( 300 peso) after the sun went down. arranged to meet cb girl and some friends the next day for some sight-seeing.
i arrived back in my hotel, went to m secret stash of 1000 peso bills, peeled off a few 1000 pesos and headed to la cafe. it was only 830pm and pretty dead, but i picked a spot right next to the stairs so i can see every girl as she arrives. lo and behold in walks "anne". this tight little spinner was the focus of a previous visit i made in may. she ignored me at first. a friend of hers recognized me and tried to hit on me, not realizing i had been schtooping her friend and not her. i told her she knew me from anne. she kept trying to get anne's attention and it was obvious to me that anne was ignoring her. her friend was pretty persistent even after i told her not to worry about it. eventually anne started to talk to me and pretend she barely knew me. i asked if she was "with anybody right now" to determine the source of the tension. a few drinks and a couple of games a pool later she asked me why i gave her a fake email address last time i was there. ok, so she knew exactly who i was and was just playing games. i said my email again for her on the spot and she told me that she tried to send me an email and it would not let her. i soothed her a little to make her "not so pissed" at me and try to convince her that there was no connivance on my part. eventually she softened up to me. i told her i had a busy day the next day and wanted to go to bed early and asked her if she wanted to go now. she said ok and we left. i watched her put her cell phone in her purse and we were off. on the way pack to the hotel a fat guy and his girlfriend bumped into her and apologized. when we got back to the room her phone was gone. we went down, recruited a couple of street kids to start looking for the phone or the guy and his girlfriend. we walked the path back to la cafe to no avail. after about ten minutes she gave up and we went back to the room. followed the usual protocol, i showered, she showered, and then came the good stuff.
we made out like high schoolers, very passionate, and the very reason i was delighted to see anne. she kisses you hard and f**ks you very, very hard. on went the rain coat for round one, a nice covered mish that brought me all the way to the first cup of coffee. drenched in sweat we both layed down and got what i like most from anne. this girl wraps her arms and legs around you and rests like a human blanket. so many girls want to put clothes on before they go to sleep, at least underwear. not anne. she grabs a hold of you to wring out all the affection that daddy never gave her. very, very comforting. woke up in the middle of the night to her nibbling on my ear, on went the cover and we started round two. she gave my second cup of coffee with nothing more than covered mish. this girl has talent, not to mention a very small vagina. that morning we awoke. both showered, i paid her (3000 peso lt) and showed her out the door. gotta hurry up, cb girl should be at the hotel within the hour for our sight-seeing trip.
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hello, guys.
it has been a while since i came back from last trip to phils. but i just want to share my story to my fellow mongers. and maybe contribute with some info.
day 1. september 14th 2007.
arriving at 4 pm from dubai with emirates after 29 hours of traveling. (train, plane, all included). in mnl. took a cap from airport to a hotel. no reservation in advance. i have learned you mostly get better bargain by showing up. i again stayed in palm plaza. close to robinsons. la cafe etc. convienent store on the next corner.
why have i till now not seen this hotel mentioned here on the board? . i think this is very a good place to stay for a night or 2. not a great bargain. but nice and clean for 2000 peso. double bed, tv, a/c.
they have no problems with bringing girls to the rooms. as long they have an id. and what i like. security will call you at the time when the girl will leave.
okay, got a room. just wanted to stay for 1 night as i would go to butuan the next morning.
went to robinsons to make some arrangement bout load for cell, buying ticket at cebu pacific. they have now relocated into robinsons.
having made my arrangements i headed towards la cafe, 5 min from palm plaza. just before arriving there was a mamasan standing with some young chicks. my eyes noticed a very young thing/ ****? . oh la la. i decided this should be my pleasurepoint of the night. mamamsan 500 /girl 1500 lt. okay and going back.
then the probs started. security would not let her go to the room, as she had no id(she might have been a minor). again a plus for the hotel staff. thinking bout my safety and their reputation (heheheh) or? .
what now? . i was horny. she called mamasan and she came to the hotel. after some discussion i agreed to settle with karen of 19 ys (with id). face of an angel, body of a goddes and a smile to kill for. but shy at first. we went up to the room.
inside the room this little shy thing tourned out to be a little wildcat, not acting like a pro. it started in the shower, fondling and kissing. where she sucked the first load off, just great. resting a little. she loves to get licked and multiple pos. especially her on top. in the end she recieved my load 5 times. what a night. next moning she left with a taxifare.
next post will be in other areas.
erik 67
Just like in baseball, you can't hit 1.000 all the time, well yesterday I experienced a clear strike out! Even though the day was a disappointment, there are great lessons to be learned from my experience.
In the early afternoon I stopped by LA Cafe to see what was available during the day. I found that the second floor doesn't even open until 7 PM, and it was just before noon. Not to be discouraged, I sat down near the bar to have a beer. As the old saying states, "Strike while the iron is Hot" should have been my guiding light yesterday. I meet a stunning 20 yo student named Shelia who told me she lived about 2 hours from the LA Cafe. She really looked young, and as part of our conversation, she showed me her ID. I was somewhat convinced that she wasn't even 17-18, let alone 20 - so I pressed for ID. Thanks for all the warnings in the forum from my fellow mongers. About the time we were really starting to get to know one another, I found myself surrounded by about four other sweeties who barely were 4's. Individually, we went through the standard questions: what is your name?, where are your from?, where are you staying?, first trip to Manila?, how long will you be here?, etc, etc, etc. To make a long story short, I arranged to meet her at LA CAfe in two hours, and we would return to my hotel. She said that would be fine since she had to get home at a decent hour. I asked her how much, and she quoted P2,000 for ST. Things were looking up!
Disappointment #1. I returned about an hour and a half later, and she was no where to be found. I saw one of her friends, and asked where Shelia was. I was told she left with someone about an hour ago. I decided to return to the Hyatt until after 7PM when the second floor opened.
Disappointment #2. Even though the second floor opens at 7 PM, no one really arrives until after the live band start playing around 9:30 PM. I returned to the LA Cafe about 8:15 and filled my time talking to the bar wenches. Alot of them are really interesting, and as it turned out, those conversations were the height of the evening. Once the band started to play it was like the women came out of the woodwork, but it was an long hour and a half of drinking SM's.
Disappointment #3. Suddenly I was surrounded by a bevy of women in all shapes, sizes, and beauty. As anyone knows who have been to the LA Cafe, when they get busy it can be difficult to really get a 100% look at the full package being offered. I probably talked with 6-7 ladies, some I thought had possibility, some were graciously thrown back into the pond. Eventually I met Ashley, who through our initial conversations seemed to offer great potential. She kept whispering in my ear what she would do if I chose her. All sounded great! Since I was only interested in ST, we agreed on P2,000 and off we went. As I was leaving, I had this "feeling" that I probably didn't spend enough time in the vetting process, but the little head was starting to take controll of the big head.
Disappointment #4. Actually Disappointment #4 was EVERYTHING that happened one we returned to the hotel room. Immediately she started pushing for LT. Since I had to leave in the morning for a business appointment at 6:30 AM, I didn't want to deal with getting myself up, showered, and deal with the departure of my companion from the prior evening. Next came all the sob stories about her two kids, Christmas is just 19 days from now, I she didn't have any money for their presents. Then more pushing for LT. Finally, I was very direct with her and told her I appreciated her circumstances, but it would be ST only. I did however offer an incentive depending on how the evening went. We started with a massage that included constant chatter about the dreadful financial condition she was in with regards to Christmas gifts for her children, her ex-husband, etc. Even if I could have totally blocked out the chatter, the massage was probably the worst massage I have ever gotten. OK, the massage is over, time to proceed to the real reason we are there.
Dead fish is an understatement! I won't go into all the details (it really wasn't very pretty), but I will summarize the evening in the following way:
A. Worst BJ I have ever had
B. Totally unresponsive to DATY
C. Constantly wanted to cover her body (which was pretty good)
D. Unwilling to do any position other than missionary.
Finally, I did what I should have done when she arrived - I asked her to leave. I shouldn't have been surprised, when she wasn't happy with the P2,000 (which I think was about P1,500 too much), but felt that I would chalk this one up to "experience".
LESSONS LEARNED.
1. When you are presented with a real stunning beauty, "Strike when the iron is hot", and don't delay.
2. Let you big head take the lead as you go through the "interview process". Believe me, you little head with thank you for it.
3. Let your instincts govern what will really happen later, not what you "hope" will happen.
4. Listen to your big head when the "add-on sale" begins. Again, your little head will thank you for it.
5. Remember that a pro baseball player with a .400 batting average is considered a super-star. Mongers would (and should) never accept that 4 out of 10 is good, but you have to strike out once in a while!
Overall Day 1 was the highlight of the trip, and I will certainly look forward to another trip to Manila.
I am off to Singapore in the morning, so the saga will continue.
Woodman
McGillicutty
12-07-07, 12:20
Woodman
This is not directed to you alone, a question that I always wanted to ask some fellow mongers.
Unless your company pays for the accomodation, why would some one stay at a 4 or 5 star hotel then try to bargain for a date?
Shouldn't it be the other way around? Bargain for the bed you sleep in and go all out for the girl that makes you feel 1000 times better than the stupid bed.
Just my opinion.Last time I offered less money for a room at a hotel they kindly showed me the phone book and told me there were many good hotels in Manila. Oddly enough you do not get that from the girlies. They know that most of the time they are asking too much, so they settle for what they really wanted in the first place. Like haggling at the international market in Kuala Lumpur. You point at something, the guy says, "3000 ringets. " You say, "1500. " He says, "Deal. " It is just part of the culture of mongering. If there was a Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price on all of them, there might be less haggling, but I doubt it.
GoodEnough
12-07-07, 14:11
Nice report. Next time you spend an hour in LA and don't find anything that appeals to you, I suggest that you head out for a while. Make a left outside the door and walk up the street to Amazonia. Spend about 30 minutes there. Still nothing? Leave Amazonia, turn right, walk up to Padre Faura, turn right again and head up to GPoint, which, at least in terms of ambiance is much nicer than LA. Hang around G Point for an hour or so, listen to the live music, see if anyone appeals to you. If not, take the 15 minute walk again back to LA, by which time an entire new crew will have replaced the ones you didn't like.
Just a suggestion.
GE
I suggest not haggling if the girl is hot and you want her.
I only haggle if the girl is substandard. There's so many choices....my goodness, why settle for something you do not really feel passionate about? I haggle only cause the perfect girl is not there. But otherwise, I submit to her requested payment but HAGGLE over time and what to perform. She 1--% of the time complies.
McGillicutty
12-08-07, 11:37
Manila Trip Report Day Four:
Went sight-seeing with CB Girl. We went to Rizal Park, The Manila Zoo, and the Metropolitan Museum of Art. She was acting strange all day. On her way home, I sent her a text asking if anything was wrong. She sent back "I cannot pretend anymore! This will the last time I go out with you. " I let her know that was fine and best of luck. Then she gets home and gives mom the news. It must not of been good. The next hour I got around twenty text messages. High drama. I told her I appreciate her honesty buy no thanks.
After all the drama it was around 9PM. I headed to Amazonia Bar where a few old women tried to talk to me and decided that wasn't my scene. I wanted some play but I wanted it to be strange. Hopefully Anne would not be around LA Cafe. Looks like LA Cafe bought the club across the street so I figured I would give that a try. It was nice. A lot of TVs, no real smoke to speak of, and probably fifteen girls to the three guys in there. No real stunners yet so I bide my time. In walks Anne's best friend. I let her know that I am just there to get a drink and that if she sees Anne, to let her know that I was sitting there by myself. She nods, she has tried to f**k me before so I am thinking she wants to stay on my good side. I really didn't need any more drama tonight. Then the train comes in. Probably fifteen japanese businessmen roll in. It was insane. I saw every girl in the place, including one trying to talk to me, pull out their cell phone and start texting away. Then comes the great deluge from the club across the street.
The place with thick with girls. And I finally spy tonight's winner. She is with two hot friends. One looked like Rosario Dawson and I was a bit tempted but instead went for her Leslie. Leslie had a smoking body. Most chicks here have some curves but not a lot. Leslie had some nice old DD's and a little junk in the trunk. But no real fat around the waist, arms, or legs. Very nice. She also has braces which, for some reason I cannot explain, is a big, big turn on for me. We exchange the same stupid questions that always come up. Negotiate 2000 pesos for ST then head back to my hotel. On the way back to the hotel I go to stop at a, yep you guessed it, 7-11. She asks if she can come in with me. I tell her that is fine but I am going in to buy some condoms. She reluctantly waits outside.
She showers, I shower. As I am drying off she asks if she can have a some juice from the mini-bar. I show her the alternate minibar that I have stocked and tell she is welcome to the finest things that 7-11 has to offer. I come out and she is lying naked on the bed, no towel, no sheets. To my delight I see she has the Tully Sevalis going on downstairs which is damn rare out here. I lay down next to her and we start going at it hard. She kisses real good, real deep. Our hands are starting to roam all over each other. Her hand finally makes it down stairs and she touches my little guy. She lets out a gasp, pulls her hand away. When I stop kissing her and pull away she laughs a little, apologizes and tells me that is bigger than she expected is all. Note I didn't say big, just bigger than she expected. I thought it was kind of cute. I am statistically average for a white guy, so it was kind of nice. The look of shock on her face was quite genuine.
I started with some DATY and she was very receptive. A lot of dirty talk, which I found very refreshing. I got her good and ready before we started the main event. On went the cover for some mish. That girl had me f**king her hard. She asked to be on top. She grinded me pretty hard with some nice CG action. She either came or faked it real good. She gushed all over me. She asked me to switch to doggie so I did. A real nice view. For the finish she pulled off the cover, had me lay on my back and gave me the best BBBJTCCIM I have ever had. This girl had some serious skills in bed. The sort of shit you look for in a girl, but don't want to start to think about what it took for her to get that good. We laid in bed for a while, making out and she asked me if I was ready fo a round two to which I obliged.
On went the cover. We started with covered mish and that was all it took. With all the biting and dirty talk from here it was too much and I got my second cup of coffee. Before she left we exchanged cell numbers. To which she started sending me dirty text messages throughout day five. But that is for day five.
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Great reports from Woodman and McGilicutty;the one-two punch for the mongers
Woodman
You have the best of both worlds. I pass by the Hyatt all the time wishing but my company is not that generate to put me there. Also, I don't have any thing against bargaining only with consistency.
Happy hunting
McGillicutty
12-09-07, 04:23
Manila Report Day Five:
Psycho CB Girl text'd me about 30 times before lunch. I really wish you could put people on ignore like in yahoo I'm. She just doesn't understand that it was interesting recreation that was ruined when she went all drama queen on me. So now I have to find other ways to spend my day. My days now pretty much involve sleeping in, getting on the computer and scouring message boards, and then sleeping again until 5-6PM. Leslie from day Four wants to go get dinner. I shower and get dressed and send her a text. No reply. I was typing another text to tell her to just meet me at LA Cafe if she wants to hook up and get one from her telling me she overslept and was on her way. We agree to just eat somewhere at Robinson's when she gets here. I get her text and meet her in the lobby. Leslie is a nursing student. The night I met her she was wearing a racy little dress that showed off her huge rack and ample posterior. Today she was just wearing regular clothes, but was still quite a knock out. We made our way to Robinson's (one block from Executive Plaza) and we eat dinner at TGI Fridays.
We make small talk. She is asking a lot of questions. Trying to glean a little about American culture. She was shocked when I told her that I knew people who would of taken a cab rather than walk one block in Manila. She asked me other things, specifically she wanted to know if our culture looked down on women who have sex with men for money. I told her that our culture does, but I don't really give a sh*t. How can I, as a monger, look down on a provider? She tells me that she used to have a bf from east asia who had set her up in an apartment and helped pay for her school. She said that after a while she didn't really like him anymore and left. No she lives in a dorm and relies on the patronage of nice men such as myself to get through school. I ask for the bill and she asks me if I am in a hurry. I told her no and asked if she would like to get a couple of drinks. Turns out she doesn't drink. I ask if there is anything she would like to do. She says she wants to go back to my hotel. No argument there.
We get back, turn on the TV, and lay in bed watching TV and occasionally kissing and feeling each other up. This goes on for about an hour. Eventually she grabs my little guy and starts giving him a real nice and deep BBBJ. The clothes come off. I DATY. She tastes clean and her vagina is real small. She is very responsive and very vocal. Eventually she is screaming for me to f**k her. On goes the johnny cap for the main event, mish (very hard, very passionate) to doggie to BBBJTCCIM. Very, very good oral skills. We lay in bed, naked, for a few more hours. Making small talk. She asks me what I want from her. She is very straight forward and very honest. I tell her am not looking for a gf. She asks me if I would like to be a F**k Friend. Kind of shocked I ask her what that entails. She says that we can hang out, f**k when we want, and if I want another girl, I better wear a rubber. I have no problem with that. We make plans to eat lunch the next day. She wakes me up around 3AM and tells me she is having trouble sleeping in a strange place and asked if it is OK if she goes back to her dorm. I told her that it was no problem and I escorted her to the front door of the hotel and saw her off. I had offered her money in the hotel room but she refused it. I have read about freebies in the forums before, but never experienced one. Definitely a first for me. Off to sleep and Day Six.
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Been There
12-09-07, 04:33
Thanks to McGillicutty and Woodman for their excellent reports. Some good info I will use when I arrive next month. Top effort, thanks again!
MichaelTheOne
12-15-07, 13:31
Yup, I am shacked up at Shangri La EDSA. Can someone tell me how to get to LA CAfe, etc....
Hunting alone. Dont want to ask bell boys..need to maintain fasade..hehe...Wanna be you lone wolf leaving to hunt for the nite ! Appreciate directions guys
Yup, I am shacked up at Shangri La EDSA. Can someone tell me how to get to LA CAfe, etc....
Hunting alone. Dont want to ask bell boys..need to maintain fasade..hehe...Wanna be you lone wolf leaving to hunt for the nite ! Appreciate directions guysFirst, don't think anything about asking for a cab at the hotel. It is safe and they will not ask where you are going. Once in the taxi (hotel should write down the number of the taxi) the driver knows that he has to start the meter and shouldn't try to rip you off and he will ask you where to go. Just say LA Cafe! Believe me, you are not the first and will not be the last to ask to be taken to the LA Cafe.
Second, if you do not want to ask the bell boys for a taxi to the LA Cafe, how in the world are you going to get a girl in the hotel.
Third, act like you belong there. If you show any signs of being neverous, you will be a target for any scams out there.
Stay safe and please report back how it went:D
Robb
MichaelTheOne
12-15-07, 15:06
Found the place ..its a stone's throw from Hyatt Regency Hotel as well as The Heritage Hotel. Reason I ask was to have a bearing on where the place is in relations to my hotel. Didnt want to ask the bell boys just in case they think I am a pervie. D*** it..traffic is murder though..take a bit of time to get there by car.
Anyway, local contact has been making home deliveries. Yet to sleep alone. HAHA.
First, don't think anything about asking for a cab at the hotel. It is safe and they will not ask where you are going. Once in the taxi (hotel should write down the number of the taxi) the driver knows that he has to start the meter and shouldn't try to rip you off and he will ask you where to go. Just say LA Cafe! Believe me, you are not the first and will not be the last to ask to be taken to the LA Cafe.
Second, if you do not want to ask the bell boys for a taxi to the LA Cafe, how in the world are you going to get a girl in the hotel.
Third, act like you belong there. If you show any signs of being neverous, you will be a target for any scams out there.
Stay safe and please report back how it went:D
Robb
To avoid the driver from taking you to Timbuktu and back charging you an arm and a leg, just tell them, if you are on Edsa Ave, go strait to Roxas Blvd, turn right and strait to the Hyatt. These are major arterials, he only needs to turn two times to get to the Hyat, one block east of Roxas, from Edsa thus can't run up the meter by running aroundl. LA cafe is on Del Pilar, couple blocks north of Hyatt
Soapy Smith
12-20-07, 05:05
manila report day three:
i am starting to think that taking the train to quezon city may not be the fastest way to get there. they all keep asking me if i am afraid to ride the train, like they all know something i don't. .[/blue][/size]i apologize for responding to a ten-day old message, but i have considerable experience with manila's light rail systems and want to offer some feedback. if you know where you're going and follow a few precautions, these trains are quite safe. if this fits better in another forum, somebody will hopefully redirect me.
from many parts of metro manila, and especially from the ermita area, light rail is much faster and cheaper than taxi for getting to quezon city and many other areas. first trains start about 5:30 am and the last trains out of the station are at 10 pm. fares on any one line are from about 9 pesos to 15 pesos, depending how far you ride. you purchase tokens at the entry station and deposit them as you exit your end station. fares to all destinations are clearly posted at all stations. you can buy passes for longer periods of time, but i never checked their prices. for the routes they cover they are much, much faster than taxis because there are no red lights and no traffic jams, and they clip right along at a good speed. there are three lines.
line 1 runs north and south from pasay city (south) to caloocan city (north). at the southern end it starts at taft avenue and edsa, about six blocks east of the edsa entertainment complex. it runs north over taft avenue until rizal park, wiggles around manila city hall and other buildings, then continues north over rizal ave. until it ends in the north at edsa. (edsa actually forms a semi-circle around the south, east and northern sides of the metro area.) access closest to ermita is where taft crosses pedro gil or un ave.
line 2, sometimes called the mrt, runs along the median of edsa all the way from taft avenue (right at the southern end of lrt 1, six blocks from the edsa entertainment complex) all the way around the east side of the metro area and ends in quezon city near sm north. they plan to extend it to caloocan city to connect to the north end of lrt 1, but that's a few years off. at present it forms about 150 degrees of the edsa semicircle around the east side of the metro area. access to the makati area is at several spots, but the big one is ayala station at sm near glorietta mall and the big hotels.
line 3 runs east and west across the mid-part of the approximate semi-circle formed by the other two lines. west end is recto station, an easy and covered walk from doroteo jose station on lrt 1 in quiapo. it runs east, eventually crossing line 2 at cubao (in southern quezon city, site of araneta coliseum, farmers market, etc.), continuing on to marikina city and santolan. you can walk the connection between lines 2 and 3 through two malls and a covered walkway at the coliseum, but it's a good five minute walk.
line 3 is newer, wider, always air-conditioned, and much less crowded than the other two. lines 1 and 2 can get quite crowded during rush hour on weekdays, so much so that you may end up passing up a couple trains that are literally too packed to permit anyone else in. but they run about 5 minutes apart, and you'll eventually find one you can onto.
there is some potential for robberies on lines 1 and 2. i never saw it happen, but locals told me stories, mostly of the third and fourth hand variety. typical m.o. is a couple guys working together, one of whom snatches a purse, wallet, or pack, and dashes off a train just before the doors close. sometimes they do it in a crowded station. one guy bumps and distracts you, the other guy grabs your stuff and runs the other way back through the crowd. being big or looking ornery doesn't deter them., but it's not hard to protect yourself from them. carry valuables in a money belt or under your clothing in front. i always carried a small pack. on line 3 i carried it on my back. when i switched to the other lines or entered busy stations such as doroteo jose or ayala, i put my valuables in it, switched it to the front, with straps through my upper arms. i crossed my arms across the pack in front of me. people gave me funny looks, but i felt very secure this way, even when the train was very crowded. you get used to the claustrophobic experience in the crowded cars, and people generally behave themselves. several young western women who rode the lines regularly told me they'd never once been groped or pinched, even in crowded cars. btw, trains are typically about four cars each, and the first cars on lines 1 and 2 are reserved for elderly, women, and the disabled.
if you plan on being in the metro area any length of time, take a few minutes and about 175 pesos to a national book store (almost all the malls and other shopping areas) and buy a copy of the smaller version of metro manila citiatlas. it shows the whole metro area in great detail, including the lrt lines.
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Nice report, Skip. I've ridden both the LRT (line 1) and MRT (line 2): I can speak to the crowded nature of these trains during rush hour. You really don't want to find yourself at a station near the middle of a line at that time. I once had to let 4 trains by at about 5:30pm because they were too crowded. If you don't like those kind of crowds, then you'd best use a taxi or only use the trains during the middle of the day or later at night. And while I did not have a problem with pickpockets, I can see the potential for them. The usual precautions apply.
Fast Eddie 48
12-21-07, 06:33
Nice report, Skip. I've ridden both the LRT (line 1) and MRT (line 2): I can speak to the crowded nature of these trains during rush hour. You really don't want to find yourself at a station near the middle of a line at that time. I once had to let 4 trains by at about 5:30pm because they were too crowded. If you don't like those kind of crowds, then you'd best use a taxi or only use the trains during the middle of the day or later at night. And while I did not have a problem with pickpockets, I can see the potential for them. The usual precautions apply.Finrod
Why use the train and jeepney taxi is cheap in manila most case is 150 peso that 3 usd ,I once got sick with the smog in the jeenpey never will take it again.
Fast eddie 48
Soapy Smith
12-22-07, 21:28
Finrod Why use the train and jeepney taxi is cheap in manila most case is 150 peso that 3 usd ,I once got sick with the smog in the jeenpey never will take it again. Fast eddie 48I don't like jeepneys either. Crowded, smelly, and unless you know the city really well, who knows where they're going? The reason for taking trains -- sometimes and to some destinations -- is to avoid traffic jams that invariably occur at some places in town. Examples: anywhere on EDSA, Quiapo, many major intersections in Makati. Also, prices on the train are always the same. Prices in taxis depend on the honesty of the driver. Many disconnect their meters, others tamper with them.
Some tips for taking taxis:
Look for a large square colored sticker in the upper corner of the windshield on the passenger side. (Six months ago, when I was in PI, the stickers were orange. Somebody please advise if the latest stickers are of different color.) The sticker, about 6 to 8 inches square, means the meter has passed inspection. It doesn't necessarily mean the driver hasn't tamperered with it, but these taxis are a better bet than those with no sticker or with older stickers, like green.
Once inside the taxi check to make sure the meter is on and that numbers are changing. The meter is about the size of the old cassette recorders that people used to mount under their dashboards. The meter will be mounted immediately below the radio and above the shift column. The minimum fare is something like 20 or 30 pesos, but the numbers start changing after you go a few hundred meters. It's a good idea to make a point to ask the driver if the meter works, even if it is lit up. If he says no, tell him to stop and get a different taxi. Similarly if you see that it's not working, tell him to stop. Drivers without operational meters will tell you a price for your destination, they always say they're giving you a discount. They aren't, and unless you're really experienced with typical fares for various distances, you can guarantee they're cheating you.
I am headed out to Manila from the 30dec-jan1 or so. I will be staying at the bayview in ermita. If anyone wants to meet up for a drink and show me the places, pm me. My mate lost his passport so cancelled his flight out so I will be going it alone in the Phils for the first time.
Cheers
Gents,
I will be in PI 16th Jan, 08 . Besides all the posts I have read about all the well known bars in Ermita. Can some one tell me about Jurassic and Hussy's Bar..is either one of the worth going too? I'm celebrating my Birthday and a Divorce, so I'm trying to have as much fun as possible.
Thanks.
Gl 1966
Gents,
I will be in PI 16th Jan, 08. Besides all the posts I have read about all the well known bars in Ermita. Can some one tell me about Jurassic and Hussy's Bar. Is either one of the worth going too? I'm celebrating my Birthday and a Divorce, so I'm trying to have as much fun as possible.
Thanks,
Gl 1966
Merry xmas to all,
went to Grand boulevard hotel along manila bay for the massage and its not there any more.
Went with my fren upstairs to have a look at manila bay, nobody there, no guard, nothing, you could propably just walk out with some souveniers, Im sure some will do that :D
Just for fun I asked if they have room avaible, they had, price was 2900p instead of 4700p. If you stay there just be prepared for the unexpected...:D
Any info where the massage went?
Happy hunting!!
Blink
I'm celebrating my Birthday and a Divorce, so I'm trying to have as much fun as possible.
GI:
My sincere condolence that you are getting one year older soon, but congrats to your divorce! :) Now seriously: If you want to have lots of fun I would rather recommend you LA Cafe, or, even better, go for a couple of days to Angeles City (from Manila just two hours by bus)! Believe you me, it is unbeatable!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Fast Eddie 48
12-29-07, 02:03
I don't like jeepneys either. Crowded, smelly, and unless you know the city really well, who knows where they're going? The reason for taking trains -- sometimes and to some destinations -- is to avoid traffic jams that invariably occur at some places in town. Examples: anywhere on EDSA, Quiapo, many major intersections in Makati. Also, prices on the train are always the same. Prices in taxis depend on the honesty of the driver. Many disconnect their meters, others tamper with them.
Some tips for taking taxis:
Look for a large square colored sticker in the upper corner of the windshield on the passenger side. (Six months ago, when I was in PI, the stickers were orange. Somebody please advise if the latest stickers are of different color.) The sticker, about 6 to 8 inches square, means the meter has passed inspection. It doesn't necessarily mean the driver hasn't tamperered with it, but these taxis are a better bet than those with no sticker or with older stickers, like green.
Once inside the taxi check to make sure the meter is on and that numbers are changing. The meter is about the size of the old cassette recorders that people used to mount under their dashboards. The meter will be mounted immediately below the radio and above the shift column. The minimum fare is something like 20 or 30 pesos, but the numbers start changing after you go a few hundred meters. It's a good idea to make a point to ask the driver if the meter works, even if it is lit up. If he says no, tell him to stop and get a different taxi. Similarly if you see that it's not working, tell him to stop. Drivers without operational meters will tell you a price for your destination, they always say they're giving you a discount. They aren't, and unless you're really experienced with typical fares for various distances, you can guarantee they're cheating you.Skip,
I don't know how the taxi driver surivive here cost of taxi is about the same as it was 5 yr ago cost is 3 usd within metro manila fuel cost have sky rocket and yet the government will not increase the min meter fare so most taxi driver cannot make a good living and don't use the meter, I do feel bad for them and not argue about a few dollar.
Soapy Smith
01-01-08, 09:00
Skip, I don't know how the taxi driver surivive here cost of taxi is about the same as it was 5 yr ago cost is 3 usd within metro manila fuel cost have sky rocket and yet the government will not increase the min meter fare so most taxi driver cannot make a good living and don't use the meter, I do feel bad for them and not argue about a few dollar.FE,
Thanks for adding some historical perspective. My observations go back only a little over a year. I understand your argument that the officials who run the system will continue to screw over the taxi drivers, so cheating on the system is the only way they can get ahead. That seems to be the PI way: the system doesn't work, so ignore the system, and, sure enough, the system doesn't work. It's a vicious circle in which the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. There are times, however, when I stand in a line in a Mercury drug store and everybody's bucking the line, or waiting in a cab in traffic on EDSA and every single vehicle is maneuvering to get its nose ahead of vehicles on either side of it, that I think everything would flow smoother and faster if Filipinos could just give the system half a chance. So Filipinos look around at Korea, or Taiwan, or now Thailand and Vietnam and ask "what happened to us, we and they used to be in the same place, and now they've moved way ahead of us." And it seems to me that never trusting any system -- for traffic, or standing in lines, or using taxi meters -- is really at the center of the Philippines perpetual stagnation. If there's a silver lining to the Philippines dark cloud, it's the blessing that falls on us foreign lechers -- lots of poor Filipinas willing to sell their exotic young brown bodies.
I was in the PI for work in November and spent 5 days in Manila. Did not venture in the Makati area beyond work since I dont like the concept and prices there.
Spent time (and had fun and girls) in the Ermita area at the usual bars extensively discussed in this Forum so not much to ad. Only to emphasize again how crowded LA can get and the fact that I always experienced very good music in most bars in the area.
What I d like to actually ad is that I have ventured to the bustling nightlife area of Malate further out from Ermita for which I have read next to nothing in the Forum and I think it definitely deserves more attention. Beyond the fact that I found it the most lively and pleasant area in town, there are dozens of bars and clubs whith plenty of willing freebies and many students (got lucky with one implying i ll be staying long in town shame on me) as well as passing by many apparent hostess bars or bars that seem that action was talking place. Only passed by 2 nights there but I m sure it s worth further exploring, especially from the ones living there.MediBoy,
I was wondering any places in particular in Malate that you would recommend as I'm going to PI in abbout a week and half.
Thanks
Gl 1966
Skip,
I don't know how the taxi driver surivive here cost of taxi is about the same as it was 5 yr ago cost? ... so most taxi driver cannot make a good living and don't use the meter!!!
So, you answered your question yourself!
However, the problem with rising gasoline prices is not limited to the Fils only! In Toronto for instance the situation is exactly the same! The only exception is that a taxi driver would risk his license if he does not flag the meter and any passenger complains later on.
But don't get me wrong: nothing against giving an adequate tip! I do the same and instead of paying the 80 pesos on the meter the driver can keep the 100 peso note. But what I hate like hell is to get ripped off by a fare that is double or triple as much than the regular price would be!
IMHO, of course!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Hi guys,
I am coming to Manila next week, arriving on the evening of January 8. I have booked a room in the Rothman Hotel for a couple of nights. Is this hotel girl friendly? I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice as I have never been before, I want to find somewhere cheap to stay but obviously it needs to be girl friendly.
Thanks in advance for any help and I will certainly compile reports of my experience to share with others.
Rothman Hotel for a couple of nights. Is this hotel girl friendly?
Don't you worry, Bobobt! The Rothman's is absolutely girl friendly!
Have a great time!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Cheers for that. I really dont know what I am going to do once I arrive at the airport, I've been reading through the posts to get an idea of what I should do. I guess I will just jump in a taxi from the airport straight to the hotel and then try and find some nearby action.
Can anyone suggest some good bars near the Rothman Hotel?
Like I said before, I will be happy to pass on my experiences once I get to Manila.
Cheers for that. I really dont know what I am going to do once I arrive at the airport, I've been reading through the posts to get an idea of what I should do. I guess I will just jump in a taxi from the airport straight to the hotel and then try and find some nearby action.
Can anyone suggest some good bars near the Rothman Hotel?
Like I said before, I will be happy to pass on my experiences once I get to Manila.
Bobobt:
I would read earlier reviews, but you can never go wrong with LA Cafe,
Woodman
... but you can never go wrong with LA Cafe,
Cannot agree more! Maybe LA Cafe would be the best starting point in Ermita. Amazonia wouldn't be a bad choice too!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Cheers for that. I really dont know what I am going to do once I arrive at the airport, I've been reading through the posts to get an idea of what I should do. I guess I will just jump in a taxi from the airport straight to the hotel and then try and find some nearby action.
Can anyone suggest some good bars near the Rothman Hotel?
Like I said before, I will be happy to pass on my experiences once I get to Manila.LA it's always the first and best choice of course but...I'll try to go to Havana too
http://goasia.about.com/od/philippines/gr/cafehavanapi.htm
Asian Western
01-04-08, 09:31
There is this girl Gina 32 owns her own house at Tagaytay and has a good government job, who has a child aged 5 yrs. She wants a foreigner to marry her and she is willing to relocate to another country. She is illegally married to a military person whose child it is, but she is the subject of physical abuse from him. All this might sound typical like many similar stories. But the twist is this woman is a nymphomaniac who orgasms very easy and very often. Many men search a lifetime to find someone like this. The foreigner shes looking for should be over 50 neither Asian nor Indian and willing to take care of her and her daughter long term. You can check her out by chatting to her on yahoo messenger at her work where her webcam is on all day. She may even give you a quick look at pussy and tits over lunch time! But dont rush into that if you really want her. Gina is sporty and an excellent 10 pin bowler. So you guys out there if you want this prize for life then show me you are genuine and I will introduce you.
The foreigner shes looking for should be over 50 neither Asian nor Indian
Qualified so far, but too bad, me 46 y/o only.
Cheers!
Asian Western
01-05-08, 07:58
There are many freelance massage girls in Manila. This business headed by Rose advertises in the Bulletin and she has about 10 girls on call. I have found them all good. Sometimes a pleasant surprise too with someone extraordinary. Yes always extras on the menu. 2000 pesos will do for everything over 90 mins. I can give you the cell number and the email and chat id. She is based in mandaluyong but serves ortigas and makati 4-5 star hotels. Some of her staff including the mamasan (26) offer ass fuck too which is a bonus in Manila because its not that common. I can vouch that she enjoys it very much. PM me for the contacts.
There is this girl Gina 32 owns her own house at Tagaytay and has a good government job, who has a child aged 5 yrs. She wants a foreigner to marry her and she is willing to relocate to another country...
AW:
Interesting vita, but one tiny little question: why don't you take her yourself? No offense, just curiousity!
Cheers - Hesekiels
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