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Hi all
I plan to be in manila for a couple of weeks, I was wondering what is the best place to pick up cute non working girls that are not out for to get your money, but still likes to have fun.
thanks
ahead of time
from what Ive been able to gather, is that you guys are paying 1500 for the barfine and around 4000 lt? Thats pretty pricey from just a couple of years ago, am I mistaken or thats the going rate going for?
Yea, prices have risen. Just stay home.
from what Ive been able to gather, is that you guys are paying 1500 for the barfine and around 4000 lt? Thats pretty pricey from just a couple of years ago, am I mistaken or thats the going rate going for?
Yea, prices have risen. Just stay home.
Airfares have increased too over the last year and it has already lead to reduced demand and decreased capacity on some routes to Asia. Could become interesting..
I arrive in manila for the first time in late September and stay a week. Is it ok to wait until the last minute to purchase an airline ticket to Boracay? I've already booked accommodations for three nights at Bora...after the week in Manila...but i wont know until the last minute if I'll have a companion for the island. Comments? Sugestiions? thanks
Redfield:
Did you get my pm answering your inquiry about the City State Hotel?
Ok, so I called PAL again today and my failed try yesterday had fare ramifications. The damn fare went up! Pissed me off! So, they did say they would email me a sheet on which I had to fill out my credit card (Mastercard info) information, cost, etc. And then I had to also photocopy my driver's license and both sides of the credit card and fax it to them. (yeah, that's really secure. Hahahaha.).
Anyway, I did get the flight booked and they gave me the new and revised more expensive fare on the web. I gave them a piece of my mind. (not bein able to book with my Visa or my Mastercard. Not giving me the fare I had tried to book the first time. And then they also informed me since it was a "special web fare" or some such stupid thing that I would receive no rewards mile whatsoever.
I f'n should have flown Northwest. I coulda booked online. Sure, would have had a two hour layover in Tokyo, but would have received frequent flyer miles and the fare would have been about $75 dollars more.
I told them this policy of theirs would hurt theri business.
Maybe we should all make sure it does. Until they correct it.
Leo Daniels
08-16-08, 18:30
SeaAir offers several flights daily. You should not have any trouble booking
while you are there thru the airline or a booking agent.
Redfield10
08-16-08, 20:51
Yes, I got your PM. I'm sorry if I forgot to thank you via a pm back. I thought I had. Good information by the way.
It's something I wouldn't have know on my own..no sense chancing it...
Redfield:
Did you get my pm answering your inquiry about the City State Hotel?
Just wanted to make sure you got it since it is still marked "unread" in my folder.
Yes, I got your PM. I'm sorry if I forgot to thank you via a pm back. I thought I had. Good information by the way.
It's something I wouldn't have know on my own..no sense chancing it...
Yea, on "SOME" routes. Who knows which they could be.
Last week I was at a $200 a night onsen resort and the place was half full of Koreans.
Hmm, some people here at PI ISG call me abrasive and argumentive, but I don't call in half the bullshit I read here (PuteN is quoted, but my rant is not directed at him).
Someone was recently saying that the decline of the won (K money) will result in fewer Koreans in AC. Ummm, if they are filling up $200 dollar a night resorts in Japan, does anyone really think they will cancel trips to the Philippines?
X
Airfares have increased too over the last year and it has already lead to reduced demand and decreased capacity on some routes to Asia. Could become interesting..
How long will this discussion of your pm messages last? Do you guys need some help? Forgive me, but I thought the whole concept of pm was that you wouldn't have to dilute the regular thread with personal messages or other stuff.
X
Just wanted to make sure you got it since it is still marked "unread" in my folder.
Hmmm, the very first post by Leo Daniels is hyping a company.
I like SEAir too, but it was a couple of years ago when I flew them to Borocay. I like the idea that one of the owners has the same last name as the airplane...his grandfather.
There is a bigger "small" airline that competes with them, but I don't remember the name off hand.
X
SeaAir offers several flights daily. You should not have any trouble booking
while you are there thru the airline or a booking agent.
Yea, on "SOME" routes. Who knows which they could be.
Well, KL(M) Dutch Airlines has raised prices to most destinations in Asia, including Manila. KL has raised prices about 25% over the past year (average). KL is, incidentally, the ONLY European carrier still servicing Manila. The others have left the (unpaid) building :D
Someone was recently saying that the decline of the won (K money) will result in fewer Koreans in AC. Ummm, if they are filling up $200 dollar a night resorts in Japan, does anyone really think they will cancel trips to the Philippines?
I partly agree with this. My point was just that there could be interesting dynamics. I was not predicting the "fall of AC" beacuse of the global economy. (That's something the filipinos might be able to pull off though.)
Fast Eddie 48
08-18-08, 00:38
Yea, on "SOME" routes. Who knows which they could be.
Last week I was at a $200 a night onsen resort and the place was half full of Koreans.
Hmm, some people here at PI ISG call me abrasive and argumentive, but I don't call in half the bullshit I read here (PuteN is quoted, but my rant is not directed at him).
Someone was recently saying that the decline of the won (K money) will result in fewer Koreans in AC. Ummm, if they are filling up $200 dollar a night resorts in Japan, does anyone really think they will cancel trips to the Philippines?
XX,
Inflations has hit asia hard this year even with the decline of the won AC is still a bargin for the Korean ,if you go mongering in Seoul will cost 5 time more than in AC you can still get a round trip from Seoul to AC on Asiana for 160 usd .
Fast eddie 48
Redfield10
08-18-08, 06:36
Uh ex man (which is kind of funny in itself. I guess you're a ladyboy) I wouldn't say asking once whether someone got a PM is going overboard. Especially noting the worthless garbage you post here.
Rboard. So
How long will this discussion of your pm messages last? Do you guys need some help? Forgive me, but I thought the whole concept of pm was that you wouldn't have to dilute the regular thread with personal messages or other stuff.
X
Notanocker
08-18-08, 13:48
I have not experienced any problems using an Australian-issued Visa card with either of these airlines. PAL approval over the Internet seems virtually instantaenous, and Cebu Pacific's not far behind.
Generally, Cebu Pacific's fares are cheaper, though it cancelled one flight I recently booked, substituing one two days later. I cancelled, booked with PAL, and will now wait for more than 60 days for Cebu Pacific to recredit my credit card.
I have not experienced any problems using an Australian-issued Visa card with either of these airlines. PAL approval over the Internet seems virtually instantaenous, and Cebu Pacific's not far behind.
Generally, Cebu Pacific's fares are cheaper, though it cancelled one flight I recently booked, substituing one two days later. I cancelled, booked with PAL, and will now wait for more than 60 days for Cebu Pacific to recredit my credit card.Flew to Boracay from Manila last July. We were a big group nd booked fligts with Sea Air, Cebu Pavific and Pal. All about the same time. Pal cancelled several of their flights and transferred them to the last flight. With the cot fuel, this is going to be a regular thing.
I arrive in manila for the first time in late September and stay a week. Is it ok to wait until the last minute to purchase an airline ticket to Boracay? I've already booked accommodations for three nights at Bora...after the week in Manila...but i wont know until the last minute if I'll have a companion for the island. Comments? Sugestiions? thanksYou can pick from PAL. Sea Air or Cebu Pacific. They fly several times a day.
The planes hold about 30+ passengers. If there is only going to be two of you, wait.
Hmmm, you didn't seem to think I was posting "worthless garbage" when you sent me a pm asking about hotels.
I just spent a few seconds going back on some of your posts, and you've been asking for Cebu hotel information since June 2008. And before that we find a few insulting posts in the Thai thread similar to the one below.
Oh, "ex" man. I get it! Wow, glad to know we have such a wit joining us from the fractious Thai boards.
X
Uh ex man (which is kind of funny in itself. I guess you're a ladyboy) I wouldn't say asking once whether someone got a PM is going overboard. Especially noting the worthless garbage you post here.
Rboard. So
You're welcome. Hope you enjoyed the picture of the room that I included.
X
(quote below is from Cebu thread)
Thanks to Xman for providing me info. But ....(blah, blah, I can't decide which room to get, blah, blah)....
Thanks
Wow, someone did not get their nap, or has too much time on their hands.
Since I am not receiving confirmations on my pm(s) I thought I would use the message board.
Lets all relax and enjoy the info.
How long will this discussion of your pm messages last? Do you guys need some help? Forgive me, but I thought the whole concept of pm was that you wouldn't have to dilute the regular thread with personal messages or other stuff.
X
Correct on both counts! In addition, a residual hangover, and post-PI depression. But back to work tomorrow....
And you could have sent a pm rather than going public. :-)
X
Wow, someone did not get their nap, or has too much time on their hands.
Lets all relax and enjoy the info.
First time to the LA Cafe for me because I heard on the weekends, you can meet real students looking for extra cash. On Saturday, this place was fairly crowded even at noon! Walked around the bar and pool table area, but only found one table with free girls. A few had some lookers, but already occupied. Anyway, met a 23 year old who is/was a nursing student. She seemed fairly keen on going out, but something just didn't click for me.
Went out to check out Amazonia, but found only a few girls there. At that point, a runner catches up to me and takes me on a 5 minute walk to a few parallel streets in the area. After 3 tiny "clubs", found a place that had 20 girls in the line-up, one that looked like Angelina Jolie! Wow, this has been a recurring fantasy of mine so went for it. The downside of this was that she knew she was hot, so pretty quiet and not engaging personality. Second, the mamasan insisted I pay up front (1500P) at the bar, and that covered everything including tip?!?! Whatever. Then the runner asked for a tip too (gave him 100P).
We went to the local Sogo, but had over an hour wait!! WTF. We decided to go back to my hotel room instead and had a good time. Overall, she was a cool fish but what a LOOK! She then insisted on a tip, so paid an additional 1500P. I think I was scammed, but not sure as this was a first experience for me. I had a memorable time plus some pictures to last me into my old age. Any thoughts on the pricing? My initial thought was not to follow a runner, but oh well.
Overall, she was a cool fish but what a LOOK! She then insisted on a tip, so paid an additional 1500P. I think I was scammed, but not sure as this was a first experience for me. I had a memorable time plus some pictures to last me into my old age. Any thoughts on the pricing?
Thanks for the report Manfest!
Sounds like you paid a BF so she was looking for her usual tip. You should have offered her 500 first as a tip and modeling fee. You probably paid at least 1000 too much. But if you shot a good amount of pics, that is worth something. Maybe you can post a few in the Photo Gallery!
Generally, in that area, 1500 should be all inclusive. Tipping should be based on performance and not looks. The important thing is that you had a good time. Yes you are right never follow a runner, especially in that area because you could have been set-up!
Key Master
08-19-08, 00:03
At that point, a runner catches up to me and takes me on a 5 minute walk to a few parallel streets in the area. After 3 tiny "clubs", found a place that had 20 girls in the line-up, one that looked like Angelina Jolie! Wow, this has been a recurring fantasy of mine so went for it. The downside of this was that she knew she was hot, so pretty quiet and not engaging personality. Second, the mamasan insisted I pay up front (1500P) at the bar, and that covered everything including tip?!?! Whatever. Then the runner asked for a tip too (gave him 100P).
Overall, she was a cool fish but what a LOOK! She then insisted on a tip, so paid an additional 1500P. I think I was scammed, but not sure as this was a first experience for me. I had a memorable time plus some pictures to last me into my old age. Any thoughts on the pricing? My initial thought was not to follow a runner, but oh well.
I might not have taken a woman who was so cold to me in the bar, but there are times that they will surprise you and be amazing outside the bar with you and vise versa. Did you ask how long that was supposed to be for or did you specify short time? I would have thought the 1500 was for the whole night. The mamasan told you it was inclusive, and for short time I would never have tipped an additional 1500 for a cold fish, just my opinion. When she insisted on a tip, did she specifically say 1500? It's hard to tell if you got scammed or you were a little gullible. Your tout probably got 500 pesos out of the deal from the bar, but I don't think it hurt to give him 100 pesos on top since he probably made the moment possible where you probably would never have gone in on your own. The 1500 pesos is probably as low as it gets, most touts will try to get another 500-1000 more, so that was pretty good price and just to find something doable was even more so.
Sounds like you paid a BF so she was looking for her usual tip. You should have offered her 500 first as a tip and modeling fee. You probably paid at least 1000 too much. --cut--
Generally, in that area, 1500 should be all inclusive. Tipping should be based on performance and not looks. The important thing is that you had a good time. Yes you are right never follow a runner, especially in that area because you could have been set-up!
Thanks for the comments. I was thinking that EDSA complex BF are about 1000-1500P, and tipping is 1500-2500P, so maybe this area was like that?! Again, I suspected it was not, but knew only the other area numbers. Also, she actually insisted it was 1500P, so didn't want to bust the mood.
Overall, not a good lay, but she did this thing at the end when I was climaxing where she started to gyrate and clench her pussy muscles hard. It made up for the lack of fake moaning/screaming. In the end, she stayed about 5 hours and had 2 rounds, so I let it go as an experience, whether I was partially scammed or not. Did I mention the Angelina Jolie-thing, very good for my ego and fantasy role playing. :)
My last night in MNL, friends took me to the EDSA complex, but got there by 2 AM. By that hour, most of the lookers were apparently gone. Still plenty of choices, just the real stunning ones that I've heard about were missing. Some of my friends pulled from the crowd and left, but the rest of us went across the street to the heritage/casino and played until dawn. Few lessons to be learned: 1) I was very excited to experience the EDSA complex, but should not leave it to the last day after about 5 shots in 3 days, just lose the motivation; 2) go much earlier than 2 AM, probably around 8-10PM; 3) don't leave yourself the option to gamble otherwise you'll be sitting back at home thinking why the FU_K didn't you pull from the line-up.
Manfest,
3k for Angelina Jolie is ok :)
Went with a cab these days, told the cab driver to make a U turn to get back to Edsa. Cabdriver told me he cant do this, cause he has allmost run out of gas, he can only go straight. I thought WTF, get out and got into another cab.
Manila, the only city in the world, where cabdrivers make decession for you :D
Blink
Las year had one acutally run out of gas taking me to the airport. Now, if I remember, I check their fuel tanks.
3k for Angelina Jolie is ok :)
Went with a cab these days, told the cab driver to make a U turn to get back to Edsa. Cabdriver told me he cant do this, cause he has allmost run out of gas, he can only go straight. I thought WTF, get out and got into another cab.
Manila, the only city in the world, where cabdrivers make decession for you :D
Blink[/QUOTE]
Hobby Knob
08-20-08, 04:39
The metered ones at the airport are cool. I asked for a metered one leaving the Hyatt. After a few miles on Roxas I noticed the meter was missing.
Guy wanted to charge me 800 pesos from Hyatt to NIAA. WTF. I paid like 200 to go from NIAA to Hyatt days earlier with metered cab.
I showed driver my wallet. with only 300pesos in it. he took it.
Stupid guy didn't realize I had to have at least 750 more to pay the airport tax.
LOL
Member #2718
08-20-08, 07:26
The metered ones at the airport are cool. I asked for a metered one leaving the Hyatt. After a few miles on Roxas I noticed the meter was missing.
Guy wanted to charge me 800 pesos from Hyatt to NIAA. WTF. I paid like 200 to go from NIAA to Hyatt days earlier with metered cab.
I showed driver my wallet. with only 300pesos in it. he took it.
Stupid guy didn't realize I had to have at least 750 more to pay the airport tax.
LOL
many of the cabs working out of the hotels are "curtousy cars" and use this to avoid regulation and hence the lack of a meter. I always avoid the cabs that service the major hotels for that reason and stick to the ones plying the streets.
you can check the speedometer too, but usually it reads 0 -- not working. but what really pisses me off are the taxis where you can't get the door open from the inside. they guy says, "wait a while", and then he runs around to open the door for you. damn, what if there was an accident and the car was on fire. i'd like to know if the door can't be opened from the inside!
x
las year had one acutally run out of gas taking me to the airport. now, if i remember, i check their fuel tanks.
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When you check out of the hotel, the doorman says do you want a taxi? If you say yes he calls a cab which does not use meter and will charge you an arm and a leg.
It happened to me. I had my GF with me. When the taxi pulled up I asked him to turn the meter on. He refused saying there is a flat charge of 600 pesos to NAIA. I told him to stop the Taxi and I was going to take another taxi. Then he asked me how much i want to pay. The meter charge is usually 150 oesos. I told him I will give only 200. He agreed.
So my advice is ask the doorman to call a meter cab or go down and get one from the street.
I usually just go down to the street. They'll still try to fk with you when you have a suitcase so ask for the meter before you put the suitcase in the car. (do we still call them suitcases??? that's about as outdated as sailing on the Titanic....)
If one taxi refuses, say thanks anyway and shut the door, the taxi just behind will know what you did. Taxi two will either turn on the meter or offer an fair price. Give him a good tip if he doesn't blast his horn the whole way, nor runs over any women or children.
At the hotel, you can walk to the street, or ask for a meter cab. Anyway, I like the exercise. In my student days, I actually walked from the airport all the way to Ermita. I still hike 3 to 6 hours every once in a while, but don't recommend it for Manila.
X
When you check out of the hotel, the doorman says do you want a taxi? If you say yes he calls a cab which does not use meter and will charge you an arm and a leg.
It happened to me. I had my GF with me. When the taxi pulled up I asked him to turn the meter on. He refused saying there is a flat charge of 600 pesos to NAIA. I told him to stop the Taxi and I was going to take another taxi. Then he asked me how much i want to pay. The meter charge is usually 150 oesos. I told him I will give only 200. He agreed.
So my advice is ask the doorman to call a meter cab or go down and get one from the street.
Cunning Stunt
08-20-08, 18:04
Might go a bit against the grain but I do feel a bit sorry for Manila taxi drivers. They are only trying to earn a crust but the constant hikes in fuel prices is making life really tough for them and there has been no concomitant rise in meter rates to compensate. So these poor bastards have to work longer and longer hours to make any money at all. And they look it. Every taxi I've been in recently has been driven by an miserable, bleary eyed zombie mumbling 'traffic, traffic' like a mantra. Not like the cheerful, garrulous rascals of even a couple of years ago. Took a cab from Taguig to Paranaque other day. Agreed a fare of P250 and told him to go C5 and expressway thinking we would be there in 30 mins tops. What a laugh. 1 hour later we were still crawling along the so called expressway (what a joke that name is, and what is more they charge you for the privilege of crawling along at 5 mph!) and didn't reach base for another 30 minutes. The driver cannot have made more than P50 for 11/2 hours work. Needless to say I gave the poor twat a good tip.
Its a buyers market too (except when its pissing down), like when I found myself in Malate the other night with such a plethora of cabs vying for my business, I was able to pick and choose the newest cab so that I was guaranteed cool air and I wouldn't be sat on bare springs.
Think what you would be paying in New York or London, guys and don't be too hard on the poor sods. I can think of few places where they are cheaper (could also be referring to something else there - like cabs a 4 letter word beginning with C) :D GH.
Hobby Knob
08-21-08, 01:04
When you check out of the hotel, the doorman says do you want a taxi? If you say yes he calls a cab which does not use meter and will charge you an arm and a leg.
It happened to me. I had my GF with me. When the taxi pulled up I asked him to turn the meter on. He refused saying there is a flat charge of 600 pesos to NAIA. I told him to stop the Taxi and I was going to take another taxi. Then he asked me how much i want to pay. The meter charge is usually 150 oesos. I told him I will give only 200. He agreed.
So my advice is ask the doorman to call a meter cab or go down and get one from the street.
actually at the airport the hyatt offered to arrange transportation for 800 pesos. I refusd and took a yellow metered cab for about 200. Earlier in the trip Shangri la wanted 2500. WTF took yellow cab for about 350.
I specifically asked the hyatt for a metered cab. With everything at the hyatt being top notch during my stay, I trusted them on this point. Guess that was my mistake.
LookingToSwing4
08-24-08, 06:48
I am traveling to PI in October, and will be meeting-up with a friend at the airport before we make our way to AC. He has never been to PI before, so he prefers to wait at the airport until I arrive about 5 hours later, at which time we will share a private car direct to AC. I arrive on Eva and he will be arriving on Philippine Air from LAX. I know my way around the airport, and suggested he stay at Terminal 2 and I will come find him after my arrival into Terminal 1. Any suggestions on where he might hang-out until I arrive? I am sure he will want to get some food and have a beer or two while he waits, and felt that Terminal 2 had more to offer than the cafe on the departure level of Terminal 1. Lots of people and chaos at that airport, and I would hate to waste too much time looking for him. Any suggestions from the MNL veterans?
Assistance would be greatly appreciated.
The Wanderer
08-24-08, 08:52
I am traveling to PI in October, and will be meeting-up with a friend at the airport before we make our way to AC. He has never been to PI before, so he prefers to wait at the airport until I arrive about 5 hours later, at which time we will share a private car direct to AC. I arrive on Eva and he will be arriving on Philippine Air from LAX. I know my way around the airport, and suggested he stay at Terminal 2 and I will come find him after my arrival into Terminal 1. Any suggestions on where he might hang-out until I arrive? I am sure he will want to get some food and have a beer or two while he waits, and felt that Terminal 2 had more to offer than the cafe on the departure level of Terminal 1. Lots of people and chaos at that airport, and I would hate to waste too much time looking for him. Any suggestions from the MNL veterans?
Assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Stopping at the airport for 5 hours would be hell, especially for a first time visitor and after a long flight. Suggests he tries the Manila Airport Hotel, even if he does not get a room, there is a bar and massage spa there and a KFC next door. It is 15 Minutes walk from T1.
LookingToSwing4
08-24-08, 14:23
Stopping at the airport for 5 hours would be hell, especially for a first time visitor and after a long flight. Suggests he tries the Manila Airport Hotel, even if he does not get a room, there is a bar and massage spa there and a KFC next door. It is 15 Minutes walk from T1.
Thanks for your thoughts. I know I could handle it, because I find the madness kinda fun, but I don't really know about him. He arrives at 0600, so he should clear customs and immigration by 7-730. I have not heard good things about that hotel, but maybe I can suggest another place that is easier and more fun to hang out like the Hyatt Hotel and Casino. Does Terminal 2 have food and drink after one has cleared customs/immigration? I have been in the building before, but I am struggling to remember if there is any more than the airline counters up front. But your idea of somewhere he could even get a room would be a positive point of contact that would be easy to arrange. I'll have to look into hotels that might be willing to guarantee early check-in.
Thanks for the feedback........Others?
Hobby Knob
08-24-08, 15:49
Thanks for your thoughts. I know I could handle it, because I find the madness kinda fun, but I don't really know about him. He arrives at 0600, so he should clear customs and immigration by 7-730. I have not heard good things about that hotel, but maybe I can suggest another place that is easier and more fun to hang out like the Hyatt Hotel and Casino. Does Terminal 2 have food and drink after one has cleared customs/immigration? I have been in the building before, but I am struggling to remember if there is any more than the airline counters up front. But your idea of somewhere he could even get a room would be a positive point of contact that would be easy to arrange. I'll have to look into hotels that might be willing to guarantee early check-in.
Thanks for the feedback........Others?
The Aiport is nothng more than an airport. No place to hang (except a dirty resturaunt by departures. You can't get back in upstairs without a ticket. (supposedly. I have it's not that hard)
have him take a yellow metered taxi somewhere like you said. Then you meet him there.
Go on e-bay and buy some sim cards for your cel-phone so you both will have contact numbers and can txt when you are there to meet up.
Just my 2 cents, but don't make him wait at the airport.
Actually, I have heard they are using that new terminal now. So the wait may be in the same airport. Any truth to those rumours?
Go Big Red
08-24-08, 17:09
He arrives at 0600, so he should clear customs and immigration by 7-730. That's always been the drawback about PAL for me, arriving so early in the morning. How are you going to AC? If you're taking Fly The Bus from the Swagman hotel, just have him take an airport taxi there and he can wait for you in the restaurant. Decent food and free wifi if he's got a laptop with him.
Hobby Knob
08-25-08, 04:18
Actually, I have heard they are using that new terminal now. So the wait may be in the same airport. Any truth to those rumours?
The new termnal is for inter island flights. And if I remember it's Something like cebu pacific PAL express and air philippiens only.
PAL has it's own terminal. Nicer than the old one.
Eva Fly's into the old terminal. It's pretty bad.
Hi,
Agree to what guys says here.Either you guys meet at a certain hotel in Manila.l recomand bayviewpark to be booked at asiatravel for a good rate and let your friend have you wait over there,having a shower and relax after a long flight.Dont let him wait for you at Manila airport unless you like to hear him sing one of Journeys old songs"Seperate ways"
Blink
What's a better bet guys? To go to Air Force One or Don Pedro's and get a girl out of the aquarium OR go to La Cafe and pick one out? The catch is I can only do it in the afternoon for a couple of hours and would need to be very lucky as I have only one shot at it. Please advise.
What's a better bet guys? To go to Air Force One or Don Pedro's and get a girl out of the aquarium OR go to La Cafe and pick one out? The catch is I can only do it in the afternoon for a couple of hours and would need to be very lucky as I have only one shot at it. Please advise.Depends on day of week and why you have only a couple of hours. If it is because you need to be near the airport, stick with AF One. Plus, LA Cafe is very hit and miss in the afternoon. At AF One you are guaranteed a winner (well, depending on YOUR taste), but the price may be a little high, BUT, no waste of time, no taxi fare, no getting caught in traffic (Sunday is light traffic).
Dan Hawaii
08-27-08, 09:42
I’m writing this report several weeks later, so please bear with me as I may have forgotten some important info. Flew into Cebu Airport on Mactan island. First night we went to Love City , its near Midtown Hotel, in the heart of Cebu City. Club Love City had naked dancing and could take out from there. I think it was 3500 for overnight, however, like most of all Philippines, the girls want to leave right after the deed. Had some good talent at love city, I would recommend that place. It is connected to 2 other go go dancing type clubs, Dimples and another bar, forgot the name. Dimples had a hot girl named apple. She was pretty damn hot but was on her rags when I saw her. So I could not partake with her.
Another club called Arena was close to Cebu town. Had the upscale girls and girls from different pricing….. Models, Manila girls, and the regular girls. I think the manila and model girls were 6k and the regular girls were 4k. Not sure on the pricing. It sure had more talent there than any other place in Cebu. Highly recommended if you do not mind spending the doe for quality looking girls.
Also went to the casas in Cebu, there is only 1 casa in the cebu area, and there are 3 in the lapo lapo area on Mactan island, sorry about my spelling. Went to 2 mactan casas there, Dolphin and another one I forgot, has ktv and stuff there. But they are only 3 minutes away from each other. The cebu casa had no one I liked, but my friends picked up some. The talent in the casa is kind of poor, but the price is the attractiveness. I think they are only 2500 for LT.
Not much to report in Cebu, as I would not return, it is kind of Ghetto compared to Manila and is really not that much cheaper. However, there are some high end resorts there, I forgot the name we went to one that was huge and badass, no phillipinos here, only tourists. As the prices are sort of Waikiki prices. Beers 4 usd, using the facilities 60 usd per day. Minus as well just book a room 140usd , may be cheaper than the day pass, if you can list people as guests under your room. Not sure about this, because we did not partake because it was raining and getting late. .
Manila
Went back to manila and hit the usual spots, Edsa, Burgos, Roxas, LA Café.
First night went to East Asia (EA) on Roxas. Has some pretty good talent here. Can bone down for 2300 plus room fee 1300. But you can share the room with your buddies, not all at once, take turns, hello, not gay here. Hahaha. So split the room fee and pay the girl 2300, pretty good deal, but need to bone down in establishment. Ladys drinks are 800 per hour. Ask for manager Johnny, he is cool., and will waive the entrance fee for you if you patronize his place. LT take out is 6000. I would recommend this place for ST, just buy a LD and bone down. Get in and out ASAP.
Went to Asian Entertainment (AE), also, we got a deal from the mommy, for got her name, Julie I think, shucks, anyways, she gave us 2500 for girl and free room charge. That’s a great deal, lady drinks are kind of expensive 500. Beers are 120. There is good talent here too. I would recommend this place, . LT take out is 6000 and 2 ladies drink minimum. I would recommend this place for ST, just buy a LD and bone down. Get in and out ASAP.
Went to Dynasty, next to Asian Entertainment, lose money, would not recommend this place, talent is poor and the prices are the same as AE and EA. Be careful at all these roxas bars, as they try to rip you off on the bill. Tacking on all kinds of bullshit, especially the entrance fee. But if you know a manager or mommy, they should waive it.
Edsa, was a oldie but goodie, pretty much straight forward, 1400 for BF and 3000 for LT. Well, kind of depends on the girl. You can negotiate, may be more maybe less. Talent here is always pretty good. I think not as good as Roxas, but you can find a real gem here if you look hard enough. LT takeout is cheaper than Roxas. Highly recommend this place.
Went to the casas in Makati, only got 3 and the talent is pretty damn shitty. You may find a gem, but I did not. Most of the girls here had babies already and are not that pretty. Well, every location in in PI , most of the girls had babies already. We just seem to keep going back, to hopefully get lucky and find a hottie. Pricing here is only 2500 or 3000. Bautisita street is where you need to go.
LA Café was a dirty and smoky place. I was lucky to have found a hottie that liked to bone down. Well, she was not a super hottie, but a Latino looking lady that had a nice bod. Too bad she had a baby already as I could see stretch marks and her tits were a bit flappy, hahaha. Anyways, she like to bone down and was super wet. She turned me on cause she was turned on. And made moaning sounds to match. Always had to wash the sheets after her. Probably one of the best bone down sessions. And only 3000 for LT. Standard pricing at LA café.
Last place we hit was burgos street. Went into a couple of familiar bars and had the same go go dancing. One of the bars had a pretty good dance show at 11pm, for got the name. But some of the dancers were sexy and hot. My friend tried to get one for LT, but she said we had to wait till 4am when she got off work or something. Well, we hit this place called rascals, where my 2 friends picked up a girl each. They were hot and playful. Real GFE as they told me in the morning. I think one of my friends fell in love, well too bad or a good thing, that it was our last night in PI. Hahaha. It was kind of tricky here on burgos street. First they say there is no BF, but as you prove to them that you are a tourist by showing all kinds of ID s and foreign credit cards, and ordering LD and beers, then the mommies start to trust you and believe you are a nice guy. So just get them comfortable and be friendly, you will be able to BF a girl. BF was 3500 and you should tip the girl 1000 if she is GFE. The girls got mad cause my friends did not tip enough, one was 500 and the other was 800. I think they expect 1000 or more. Not sure, but if they give you good service and GFE and stay till morning, I think 1500 tip would be good.
In closing, I think many bars try to rip you off so be meticulous about the bill, especially the ones on Roxas Blvd. . We all never had problems with girls stealing, but just be careful. LT girls will try to make up excuses to leave right after the deal, so you need to negotiate when LT is over, like in the morning or right after the first deed. Don’t fall for the sob sob stories the girls try to tell you. They just want your sympathy for you pesos. But some girls are winners, get there numbers and keep in touch with them, cause they are special. Foremost advice, is don’t fall in love and bring WG stateside. That would be the most expensive mistake you can ever make in your life. Peace and play safe.
Forgot to mention that I did hit a couple of fish bowls / saunas… Airforce 1 (near airport in Sucat city) and Romans Suites (near Greenbelt mall in makati). Prices vary on the time you go, Usually before 5 pm you get a better rate. Girls at both were okay, you can find a hottie if you got great timing. Both saunas offer the same service, which is pretty much full service, hahaha. At roman suites, they actually massage you, at AF1, no massage, unless you beat it out of her. Prices are similar, pretty much 3500 for everything, but go before 5pm, you get a discount.
Dan Hawaii
08-27-08, 09:55
I arrive in manila for the first time in late September and stay a week. Is it ok to wait until the last minute to purchase an airline ticket to Boracay? I've already booked accommodations for three nights at Bora...after the week in Manila...but i wont know until the last minute if I'll have a companion for the island. Comments? Sugestiions? thanks
That's how the philipinos buy tickets, at the last minute, so don't worry about it. It's normal practice. For real.
Dan Hawaii
08-27-08, 10:36
Thanks for the comments. I was thinking that EDSA complex BF are about 1000-1500P, and tipping is 1500-2500P, so maybe this area was like that?! Again, I suspected it was not, but knew only the other area numbers. Also, she actually insisted it was 1500P, so didn't want to bust the mood.
Overall, not a good lay, but she did this thing at the end when I was climaxing where she started to gyrate and clench her pussy muscles hard. It made up for the lack of fake moaning/screaming. In the end, she stayed about 5 hours and had 2 rounds, so I let it go as an experience, whether I was partially scammed or not. Did I mention the Angelina Jolie-thing, very good for my ego and fantasy role playing. :)
Hey manfest, I think 3000 was a good deal for 2 pops, and 5-6 hours with Angelina Jolie. Sounds like you had fun and she made your day. Only 70 usd, geez, does not get better than that, you only paid her 12 usd per hour for sexual favors. What a bargain.
Dan Hawaii
08-27-08, 17:37
I think:
Terminal 1 is for all international flights, EXCEPT Philipines Airlines.
Terminal 2 is for all international flight for Philipine Airlines
Terminal 3 (just opened) is for domestic flights, cebu pacific, pal, etc...
Not sure, but this is what I got from the taxi guys.
Dan Hawaii
08-27-08, 17:45
Thanks for your thoughts. I know I could handle it, because I find the madness kinda fun, but I don't really know about him. He arrives at 0600, so he should clear customs and immigration by 7-730. I have not heard good things about that hotel, but maybe I can suggest another place that is easier and more fun to hang out like the Hyatt Hotel and Casino. Does Terminal 2 have food and drink after one has cleared customs/immigration? I have been in the building before, but I am struggling to remember if there is any more than the airline counters up front. But your idea of somewhere he could even get a room would be a positive point of contact that would be easy to arrange. I'll have to look into hotels that might be willing to guarantee early check-in.
Thanks for the feedback........Others?
I would not want to wait at the airport for 5 hours. He will probably clear customs and get his luggage in only 30 minutes time. It does not take an hour as the airport is small. Well, from my experience.
Like the other guys said, both of you buy sims and have them preloaded with pesos (if possible, never tried) so you can text each other and get communication going. It would be FUBAR if you guys can not find each other and spend days looking for each other.
I would recommend him going to AirForce 1 in Sucat, near SM Mall, not sure if they will be open that early, but maybe. try find out. Cause that would be the best, he could shower, relax, get a massage and bone down with a hottie all in the comforts of an AF1 room.
If they are not open that early, well, tell him to check into a hotel, cause, staying at the airport for 5-6 hours would be anything but fun. Not sure when the malls open, he could probably stay at a nice coffee shop in Glorietta mall, GreenBelt Mall, or an SM mall.
Dan Hawaii
08-27-08, 17:48
What's a better bet guys? To go to Air Force One or Don Pedro's and get a girl out of the aquarium OR go to La Cafe and pick one out? The catch is I can only do it in the afternoon for a couple of hours and would need to be very lucky as I have only one shot at it. Please advise.
Air Force 1, hands down. If you go to LA Cafe, where you going to bone down? You will need to book a hotel.
Air Force 1, hands down. If you go to LA Cafe, where you going to bone down? You will need to book a hotel.
Well the ST hotels like SOGO only charge 500p for three hours and ST from LA Cafe is only 1500p vs. going to AF1 where total charges are 3000p. With that being said, I prefer Air Force 1 anytime.
Hey manfest, I think 3000 was a good deal for 2 pops, and 5-6 hours with Angelina Jolie. Sounds like you had fun and she made your day. Only 70 usd, geez, does not get better than that, you only paid her 12 usd per hour for sexual favors. What a bargain.
Sounds like you had a great time! I hit all the same areas (except Roxas), and had a similar attitude/experience. When you find a nice WG, they seem genuine and truly GF in the RP, possibly more than PRC or ROK (my two other areas of much experience). Pricing is higher than PRC, but much less than ROK and US. I didn't venture out of Manila/Makati, but just these two venues makes me want to come back. If I had gone around like you, I might move to the Philippines!!
HornyGeorge
08-27-08, 23:21
So much misinformation in his posts I do not know where to begin so let's start with this whopper:
1. "Not much to report in Cebu, as I would not return, it is kind of Ghetto compared to Manila."
I am so dumbfounded that I do not know what to say except you are the first person EVER to make a comment like that.
2. Love City and Dimples and those places on the other side of Maxilom (AKA Mango) from Viking are fleece joints plain and simple. But then again, that seems to be the type of place you prefer in Manila too (East Asia and ANYTHING along the Roxas Strip, since Axions/visions went under, are infamous clip joints).
3. The EDSA mamasans charged you 1400 BF? I've heard of newbies getting hit for 1200 (I have never paid more than 1000 which is the "real" rate).
4. Cebu has DOZENS of casas; you may have only found two but taht does not mean there are no others.
5. The Mactan resort you describe was almost surely the Shangri La. Did you really pay $60 for a day pass? OMG.
6. At some times of year you can buy tickets at the last minute (although you will pay more usually). Try that on a holiday weekend, or ANYTIME in December or near Holy Week, and you will be grounded for sure.
7. There are LOADS of short time motels about 15 minutes from the airport right near the EDSA Complex for under $10.
8. The PI is NOT Hawaii (Thank God!), but you are spending money like these girls were streetwalkers from Kealakua Ave in Waikiki! The average salary in the PI is under $100 per month.
9. The airport is small and people get bags and clear customs within 30 minutes? Sounds like Cebu Mactan NOT NAIA! As to the terminal information, ALL PAL flights go from the Centennial Terminal (nobody calls it Terminal 2). ALL Cebu Pacific flights go to the new terminal 3. Foreign carriers are moving from Terminal 1 into Terminal 3 on different dates so you need to check with your airline.
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I think:
Terminal 1 is for all international flights, EXCEPT Philipines Airlines.
Terminal 2 is for all international flight for Philipine Airlines
Terminal 3 (just opened) is for domestic flights, cebu pacific, pal, etc...
Not sure, but this is what I got from the taxi guys.
Terminal 2 is being used by PAL (Philippine Airline) for domestic flights. I flew in last Thursday from Mindanao and flew out Friday for Cebu on PAL from terminal 2.
Robb
Dan Hawaii
08-28-08, 04:37
Terminal 2 is being used by PAL (Philippine Airline) for domestic flights. I flew in last Thursday from Mindanao and flew out Friday for Cebu on PAL from terminal 2.
Robb
I flew out of terminal 2 PAL international flight to Hawaii-USA. Just 2 days ago.
Hmmm, then all of PAL flights must be from terminal 2.
All other international flights (except PAL) out from terminal 1
All domestic flights (except PAL) out from terminal 3.
Dan Hawaii
08-28-08, 04:45
Well the ST hotels like SOGO only charge 500p for three hours and ST from LA Cafe is only 1500p vs. going to AF1 where total charges are 3000p. With that being said, I prefer Air Force 1 anytime.
Air Force 1 hands down, agreed. And you forgot to mention the most important factor, quality/talent. Its like comparing apples to oranges, or hotties to fuglies. LA Cafe is lacking in talent. And I heard, that AF1 has mandatory health checks , as for LA Cafe Freelancers, I doubt it.
Dan Hawaii
08-28-08, 04:54
Sounds like you had a great time! I hit all the same areas (except Roxas), and had a similar attitude/experience. When you find a nice WG, they seem genuine and truly GF in the RP, possibly more than PRC or ROK (my two other areas of much experience). Pricing is higher than PRC, but much less than ROK and US. I didn't venture out of Manila/Makati, but just these two venues makes me want to come back. If I had gone around like you, I might move to the Philippines!!
Hey Mr. Perfect miss, sorry I was in Cebu the exact time you were in Manila. Would have been great to have cruzed to exchange war stories in Manila and CP. I like CP better, just because of my flavor, light skin, pink color, never had babies before, younger, and just prettier...IMHO... No flaming please. Prices are cheaper in CP for both living, hotel, and girls. If I spoke chinese, then I would move to CP. Don't get me wrong, I like PI too, but if I knew Chinese, there would be no comparison. Everyone in PI speaks English so that's where we get the GFE from. Cause we can communicate with the hotties. I hate it when they start talking Tagalog it's a turnoff. And I know they talking shit about us. Hahaha. Well, don't know when I will be back to one of my adventures, got to buckle down and pound the pavement to retirement. Maybe next year when one of my condos turnovers I'll have an excuse to go to PI.
I hate it when they start talking Tagalog it's a turnoff.
Really. It's like when Celine Dion speaks French, or when Mexicans speak . . . what, Mexican? Anyhow, instant soft-on!
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I was in the LA Cafe a couple months ago at 10 am and I wasn't looking too hard, I was playing pool and messing with the girls. Around 1 pm this girl walked in to pick up her friend and I said hi as she passed me and she gave me the dirtiest look, so I figured whatever.
An hour later as we were playing pool, her friend and I realized that we were staying in the same hotel. She was staying with her boyfriend, who was at work. So, in our talks, she told me that her friend had lost her cell and needed a new cell and she that she worked in SM. I don't know if this is BS, but I offered to buy her a new cell if she came by my room. After an hour of thinking she said that she would, I was like sure you will. I went to the hotel and thirty minutes later she knocked on my door.
Without a doubt, a diamond in the cafe. Also I would like to thank PAL (Plane Aways Late), because I was scheduled to fly to Mindanao at 3 pm and the plane was delayed, so the hotel changed my flight to the next day, or I wouldn't have had the chance to meet her.
True GFE,
Robb
Gentlemen,
Airforce 1 has been mentioned in a couple of contexts.
What is it about?
What services does it offer?
Prices?
Thanks in anticipation.
Gangles
Fast Eddie 48
08-28-08, 16:45
Gentlemen,
Airforce 1 has been mentioned in a couple of contexts.
What is it about?
What services does it offer?
Prices?
GangleAir force one is an entertainment complex in Manila near the NAIA airport.
It has a sauna, a resturant, KTV massage service and FS avalible.
The sauna offers 3 classes of service: First class, Business class, and economy.
FS in house from 2500 peso and up.
Fast eddie 48
--cut--If I spoke chinese, then I would move to CP. Don't get me wrong, I like PI too, but if I knew Chinese, there would be no comparison. Everyone in PI speaks English so that's where we get the GFE from. Cause we can communicate with the hotties. --cut--
This is exactly right. In PRC, I'm just a pointer: point, grunt, screw, pay, repeat. In RP, I can actually have a conversation! Almost every girl was as expected in bed because had a chance to vet her out ahead of time. The one hottie (Jolie), I knew wouldn't be a GFE, but took her anyway. I also like the expanded food variety, friendly people, ability to pay your way out of any situation, etc. If only I could move...
Marconista
08-28-08, 22:28
Well done Robbaf,
A keeper.
Hope you got her cp no to hook up at a later visit (and to share with the rest of us :D ).
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Without a doubt, a diamond in the cafe.
True GFE,
Robb
Escort Fan
08-28-08, 22:50
I was wonder are all manila girls fucking bareback like in Angeles City... (that's an educationnal question...) that question goes for LA Café girl and girls working in clubs as they might have different services.
Are some venues like AF1 mentionned below accepting credit card payment like BKK soapies?
HornyGeorge
08-29-08, 00:39
RobAF: Lovely girl indeed. Just shows that the best girls are often found when you are NOT looking for one.
DanHawaii wrote:
"I flew out of terminal 2 PAL international flight to Hawaii-USA. Just 2 days ago. Hmmm, then all of PAL flights must be from terminal 2."
So far, so good.
"All other international flights (except PAL) out from terminal 1"
ah no. Cebu Pacific has transferred ALL flights, domestic and international, to terminal 3 as of 1 month ago. You cannot log onto to their website without getting a pop informing you of that. I also think Asian Spirit has moved already. Several other carriers have moved, or are in the process of moving to terminal 3. If any doubt CALL YOUR CARRIER.
"All domestic flights (except PAL) out from terminal 3."
Ah no. See above re Cebu Pacific (the other main domestic carrier-ASian Spirit and Sea Air are the others (Air Philippines is basically a division of PAL ads their flights are from Centennial terminal).
Hopefully this clears up the misinformation posted by others.
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Are some venues like AF1 mentionned below accepting credit card payment like BKK soapies?
Yes indeed Air Force 1 does accept credit cards. Not sure what it says on the receipt -- in case you want to charge it to the company's expense account :-)
LookingToSwing4
09-02-08, 01:22
Thanks for your thoughts. I know I could handle it, because I find the madness kinda fun, but I don't really know about him. He arrives at 0600, so he should clear customs and immigration by 7-730. I have not heard good things about that hotel, but maybe I can suggest another place that is easier and more fun to hang out like the Hyatt Hotel and Casino. Does Terminal 2 have food and drink after one has cleared customs/immigration? I have been in the building before, but I am struggling to remember if there is any more than the airline counters up front. But your idea of somewhere he could even get a room would be a positive point of contact that would be easy to arrange. I'll have to look into hotels that might be willing to guarantee early check-in.
Thanks for the feedback........Others?
Thanks to all for your assistance. Turns out that my friend has a flight on a different airline that also connects thru Taiwan and only arrives 2 hours before I do into Terminal 1. So he is going to hang out in the cafe and await for me until we can catch our driver to AC.
The Wanderer
09-02-08, 14:06
Thanks to all for your assistance. Turns out that my friend has a flight on a different airline that also connects thru Taiwan and only arrives 2 hours before I do into Terminal 1. So he is going to hang out in the cafe and await for me until we can catch our driver to AC.
Don't believe there is one, unless you mean the shacks by the car park!
Don't believe there is one, unless you mean the shacks by the car park!
This cannot be stressed enough. Terminal 1 of NAIA has, by far, the poorest and most meagre 'dining' facilities of any airport in any major city I've ever visited. Terminal 2 is marginally better, now that it has a Delifrance stand. And in both cases that's only inside the departure lounge. Nothing at all as far as I know on the arrival side.
Hobby Knob
09-03-08, 06:02
This cannot be stressed enough. Terminal 1 of NAIA has, by far, the poorest and most meagre 'dining' facilities of any airport in any major city I've ever visited. Terminal 2 is marginally better, now that it has a Delifrance stand. And in both cases that's only inside the departure lounge. Nothing at all as far as I know on the arrival side.
There is a cafe at the end of terminal one. Upstairs at departure. I met a cam girl there once. It is not a nice place. No A/C. food was horrible.
I guess 2 hours would not be too bad, but have him go offsite, get the sim cards and meetup after.
Terminal 2 is being used by PAL (Philippine Airline) for domestic flights. I flew in last Thursday from Mindanao and flew out Friday for Cebu on PAL from terminal 2.
RobbBOTH Intl and domestic flights. ALL Pal flights , all.
Can any one tell me the name of the club as you go in the main door to the far left corner? Its name now? And the name it used to be called about 3 yrs ago? I need the name cuz a ho who used to work there now has custody of my son. Want to see if i can still get a record of her working there. If its possible.
Man In Japan
09-04-08, 02:20
Can any one tell me the name of the club as you go in the main door to the far left corner? Its name now? And the name it used to be called about 3 yrs ago? I need the name cuz a ho who used to work there now has custody of my son. Want to see if i can still get a record of her working there. If its possible.I want to say that the new name is 'Bullets and Arrows' and the old name is 'My Fair Lady' but I could be wrong. As for what your trying to do, I doubt there is any record of her and definitely not one available to a foreigner.
Good luck.
Servicewise what do you get for those 3 prices? (is the look of girl the only variable?
Actually, the only variable is the size of the room. There are different fishbowls but it is hard to tell the difference IMO.
Also how does it rate vs the usual full service you get in AC?More professional with attentive personal service. Comparable to the places in Macau since you only get 90 minutes.
Member #2718
09-06-08, 09:18
I want to say that the new name is 'Bullets and Arrows' and the old name is 'My Fair Lady' but I could be wrong. As for what your trying to do, I doubt there is any record of her and definitely not one available to a foreigner.
Good luck.
My Fair was just to theight as you came in the entrance. to thefar right was the fire house. the right front was spacegirls.
Fast Eddie 48
09-07-08, 02:03
Actually, the only variable is the size of the room. There are different fishbowls but it is hard to tell the difference IMO.
More professional with attentive personal service. Comparable to the places in Macau since you only get 90 minutes.Mattrick
I think AF1 is way overpriced it is cater for the high roller ,it is a very nice place room is great but for 5000 peso for the first class girl there ,you are better off go to the ktv at quezon city for the hot model type girl .
For sauna I like the Phoenix one and don pedro at Makiti area have a few hot girl service at 2000 peso much better vaule .
Fast eddie 48
Redfield10
09-07-08, 20:39
I am planning on staying at the City State Towers in Ermita and travelling via bus to Puerto Galeta (hopefully from their lobby) on October27th. Returning on October 30th. How does one go about actually purchasing the bus ticket from there or is there a better way to travel to PG?
I've been told it's busy around All Soul's Day. I already made a hotel reservation for Puerto Galera (in Sabang). So I should be set with a place to stay. But I'm not sure how the bus thing to PG works. I understand from where the bus stops it will be easy to catch a ferry to PG.
Thanks in advance for your help, guys.
Can any one tell me the name of the club as you go in the main door to the far left corner? Its name now? And the name it used to be called about 3 yrs ago? I need the name cuz a ho who used to work there now has custody of my son. Want to see if i can still get a record of her working there. If its possible.
When you walk in the first bar on your left is Casino, the next bar on the far left, right past the food stalls, is Samba, going around in a circle, Cotton Club is next, followed by Bullet's and Arrows (B&A). If you exit out of B&A on the far side, there is a set of stairs that leads to Club VIP (upstairs), next to Club VIP is the Firehouse (FH) and beside FH is Space Club and the last bar before the exit is Pitstop. As far as I know, Cotton Club is the only one that offers VIP rooms upstairs.
Robb
The bus plus ferry ticket office is at the back left of the lobby. You can make a hotel reservation online at Big Apple Dive Resort (www.ermita.com), but you should have not problem finding a place to stay once you arrive. Sabang is really user-friendly.
I am planning on staying at the City State Towers in Ermita and travelling via bus to Puerto Galeta (hopefully from their lobby) on October27th. Returning on October 30th. How does one go about actually purchasing the bus ticket from there or is there a better way to travel to PG?
I've been told it's busy around All Soul's Day. I already made a hotel reservation for Puerto Galera (in Sabang). So I should be set with a place to stay. But I'm not sure how the bus thing to PG works. I understand from where the bus stops it will be easy to catch a ferry to PG.
Thanks in advance for your help, guys.
Puerto La Cruz
09-08-08, 02:34
From CityState the bus arrives direclty across the street. Merely confirm that you are on the right bus. Bus will take you to the docks in Batangas. Pau up at the windows and make sure you are on the right boat. Some go to Sabang and others go to other places there. Once you have confirmed, confirmed and confirmed that you are on the boat to Sabang, sit back and enjoy the ride.
Redfield10
09-08-08, 02:45
Thanks, guys. I'm still not quite sure if the boat ticket to Sabang is purchased in Batangas or at the CityState Hotel.
Thanks
I checked out http://www.ermita.com/ and notice La Cafe has events but nobody has ever mentioned them.
Any info on quality and fun factor available, please.
Thanks,
Slim
Cunning Stunt
09-08-08, 08:33
I checked out http://www.ermita.com/ and notice La Cafe has events but nobody has ever mentioned them.
Any info on quality and fun factor available, please.
Thanks,
SlimYes Slim, LA Cafe (upstairs) has some good live bands, particularly at weekends, including some quite well known (in the Philippines) acts. Freddy Aguilar seems to sing there quite frequently. He a quite good folk singer who was really big in the eighties when he was the chief singing voice of the 1986 anti-marcos EDSA rebellion, with his anthemic hit 'Bayan Ko'. It nicer upstairs than downstairs but still gets a bit airless and smoky. Admission is P100-200, depending on who playing. Girls will try to get you to stump up their admission. Quality of the talent on offer can be higher upstairs.
Didn't know that Steve 'Boring' Davies was a visitor to LA Cafe. Bet he is a monger on the side. Wonder if he is the famous snooker player who got fooled by the ladyboy whilst playing a tournament in Thailand?
Redfield10
09-08-08, 16:16
Ignore this post...I can see what I wanted to ask was indeed posted below...
Thanks, guys. I'm still not quite sure if the boat ticket to Sabang is purchased in Batangas or at the CityState Hotel.
Thanks
You can confirm where you buy the tickets that it includes the ferry. If not, no worries, you can still buy the ferry ticket at the docks.
I brought my own; we did it the filipino way: taking an aircon bus that left the bus yard in Pasay City at 4:45am, then finding a cheap ferry in Batangas. She explained that the later buses were slower due to the traffic. I gathered at Batangas that there are different ferries and different rates available, faster vs slower.
For the cheap charlies among you, the Pasay City bus yard is on Taft just south of Puyat, easily accessible via LRT. Chances are good your honey will know it.
You can confirm where you buy the tickets that it includes the ferry. If not, no worries, you can still buy the ferry ticket at the docks.
I brought my own; we did it the filipino way: taking an aircon bus that left the bus yard in Pasay City at 4:45am, then finding a cheap ferry in Batangas. She explained that the later buses were slower due to the traffic. I gathered at Batangas that there are different ferries and different rates available, faster vs slower.
For the cheap charlies among you, the Pasay City bus yard is on Taft just south of Puyat, easily accessible via LRT. Chances are good your honey will know it.
Remember the 3 rules for using a ferry in the Philippines:
1. If the Ferry looks overcrowded......it is
2. If the seas look to rough for sailing......they are.
3. Just because the Captain is willing to sail does not mean it is safe.
Remember the 3 rules for using a ferry in the Philippines:
1. If the Ferry looks overcrowded......it is
2. If the seas look to rough for sailing......they are.
3. Just because the Captain is willing to sail does not mean it is safe.
Your points are good ones. The ferries going to Puerto Galera from Batangas are not the huge ferries we've seen in the news so it should be easy to look them over from the docks. Regarding the rough seas, do check the weather reports before you go, especially during the rainy season.
A couple of weekends before I went to Puerto Galera, I was in Cebu City with another honey. She first suggested to go to Malapascua; she showed me pictures from her last trip there so that looked good to me. Then she got word that the seas were a bit rough due to a typhoon some distance away, and she decided she did not want to be on the water so we went to Moalboal instead. Just something to remember, your honey may be alert to sea hazards; they hear the horror stories too.
Redfield10
09-09-08, 20:33
Thanks for the info on the ferry, guys.
Nothing is 100% safe, but I like to hedge my bets as much as possible.
The late October time is not "rainy" season, is it?
Cunning Stunt
09-10-08, 03:34
The late October time is not "rainy" season, is it?
The rainy/typhoon season can extend into November and a late typhoon in December is not unheard of. Always pack a brolly for the Philippines (not actually essential as locally made ones are cheap and reasonable quality).
Has anyone else noticed how humid it has been this year in Manila? Day after day of 100% humidity and its the damp rather than the heat that makes the climate so uncomfortable. Must be one of them 'El Ninja' years or whatever its called. I do know I've had a spot of the dreaded 'jock rot', which is a first for me. I actually look forward to the typhoons (but not the close or direct hits) because they drag in much colder air and the air is refreshingly cool for a few days. Thats rather like living in a wood and hoping for a forest fire so you will have a space for a picnic but I always was a daft bastard :D.
Sleepy Floyd
09-10-08, 07:41
Anybody know the hours of operation for Air Force 1?
Key Master
09-10-08, 08:12
Thanks, guys. I'm still not quite sure if the boat ticket to Sabang is purchased in Batangas or at the CityState Hotel.
Thanks
I just took the bus from there. They quote 700 pesos or 1400 pesos. They are one way or round trip tickets, and both includes the boat ride or rides. It basically breaks down to 500 for bus and 200 for boat. When you get off the bus, the girl on the bus will guide you most of the way along with another helper or two and she will eventually leave you with them. They will eventually get you on the boat and then you are pretty much on your own as the next stop is the sand in Sabang. You can purchase the return ticket if you want I believe at Eddie's Place where the boat arrives at in Sabang if you want.
Puerto La Cruz
09-10-08, 11:45
You buy your boat ticket at the terminal in Batangas. Here's one very important item not mentioned. On your return trip to Manila from Batangas, there probably won't be a bus that will return you directly to your hotel. You will probably have to get off somewhere in downtown Ermite or Malate and take a short cab trip to your hotel.
Redfield10
09-10-08, 16:11
Thanks for all the help, guys. The info is a little conflicting, but good enough to get me there, I'm sure!
HornyGeorge
09-10-08, 20:02
They do not call it "the new Boracay" for nothing.
Forget the hassle of getting there (4 hour drive from Cebu City then the 30 minute crossing)' once you get there you will see it is CRAWLING with white people (and NOT mongers). Euro couples and backpackers and the whole lot, they are ALL THERE.
Also, it is a VERY small island, less than 1/4 the size of Boracay. There are so many boats on the beach there is scant sand on which to relax and the mooring lines running along the beach from the boats making walking along the beach like a track full of hurdles. The town people build fires each night creating a smoky haze that is none to pleasant, although on the beach it wont bother you. The only transport is young boys on motorbikes offering rides.
The diving/snorkeling is mediocre at best.
This should probably go in Cebu thread but wanted to reply to FINROD's comment about Malapaacuas pictures looking good. I have lovely pictures of white sand and Blue water there also, but next time I'd go to Bantayan Island instead.
Anybody know the hours of operation for Air Force 1?
They open at noon. I normally go at noon, downside is being Filipina's they are late, so the fish bowls are 50%. Just standby, because they will come in. Last time I was there, a lady was in the back row by the door, looking down, but the manager said take her. I did and I asked her, after waiting 30 minutes for her to arrive in the room, while was she looking down, No makeup:) I have never been there at night so I don't know what time they close.
Robb
Southbound69
09-11-08, 07:31
this is a continuation of my report on my first visit to angeles city. i was in ermita for the first time ever for a precious few 18 hours on a recent friday. i arrived at the southern cross hotel from a/c on their bus from orchid inn. got in around 2:30pm. i checked directly into the hotel because i read that it is a decent place at a fair price and i did not have time to look around for anything else anyway as i have a 10: 55am flight out the next morning. i also arranged to use their transport to the airport. i paid 350p because, again, time was of the essence. i find out later that a taxi should cost around 150p to 200p. ok, i know now. the hotel is fine and the location is good.
i go to the room for a few minutes to put my stuff away. i want to go out right away to find the la café then get something to eat and come back for a shower before going out for the night. i manage to find the la café, i didn’t know exactly where it was but i knew it was close to southern cross. as i approach la café i am intercepted by a late 30 something lady with a young looking girl. the older one asks me if i want a massage from her niece. she says her name is lovely. yes, she is lovely but i am just looking as it is only about 5pm and i need something to eat and a shower. we small talk for a couple of minutes. we are right across the street on the corner to the entrance to la. i ask her why she is not already in la. she says that they must buy a drink to stay inside. i say she looks a little young. she produces an id. june 1989. i ask her what year she was born. she says 1989. i tell her that i will pass on this one, i need something to eat and a shower. she offers to send lovely to my room and take a shower with me for free. hmmmm. i say no, but i will take her into la for a quick drink to get to know her a little, besides, it will give me a chance to check out the place.
we cross the street, enter, no id check for her, maybe because it’s early? the place is packed. we find a table right next to the door. sit down and order 2 sml’s. i ask her a few questions. she is a little shy. i don’t like shy. tonight i want to be f’ed, not me doing the f’ing. i want to be raped by my girl tonight. i had some mediocre experiences in a/c so tonight is make or break for me, the last chance. so after a little chit chat i ask to see her id again. i take a look at it, ask her her birthdate again, her address. she answers me quickly, almost like it was rehearsed. wait a second. i take a better look at the photo. "that’s not you! ? " "yes it is" she says shyly. the photo at first glace does look like her but upon close examination i think it is not her. i give her id back and ponder for a few seconds. suddenly she says that she has to go outside for a minute and talk to her aunt. i watch her cross the street never to see her again. maybe lovely and her "aunt" were trying to set me up. anyway, i never saw her again.
while i was with lovely i had noticed a very attractive lady hanging around in my area. i had made eye contact with her a couple of times but this other girl was with me at the time. i couldn’t believe that a half hour had elapsed and she was still alone. after lovely left some fugly chick came up and asked to sit down, i said why not. i basically ignored her. she wanted to give me a massage, no thanks. meanwhile the chick that i was interested in wandered over near the door. i caught her eye and asked her to sit down. she sat down next to me. we make small talk. the fugly moved on. i was concerned about this girl because i am very leary about beautiful girls. and beautiful she was. this one was different though. we hit it off immediately. great personality. intelligent conversation. speaks four languages. fun. i am withholding her name for personal reasons. i offer to buy her a drink. she orders a non-alcoholic drink. me a sml. we finish our drinks. i want to get down to business. i ask her how much she wants for the night. she says up to me. having already read in the rtff that manila was 3 to 4 times a/c prices i told her that i would give her 2500p. she pauses and says ok. she says she usually gets more but she will go with me for that price. i would have gladly paid more for this beauty.
she wants to go to her brother’s apartment real quick for something and invites me along. i tell her i will wait here for her. she says ok and tells me she will leave her purse with me. she says she will be back in a half hour. 45 minutes later she comes back in a different outfit. stunning. we take off to find something to eat. i am proud to have this beauty on my arm.
we look around for someplace decent to eat. it is about 11pm now. while walking around we go down this dark street. one of those glue sniffer kids comes up to me on my left side asking for money. at the same time a glue sniffer on my right comes from behind and thrusts his hand in my front pocket. i turned and grabbed his arm and twisted it back. i wanted to snap it like a twig. he was laughing the whole time. stoned. the pants i had on had very deep pockets and i did have a little money in them but he didn’t get anything. my real money was in my money belt. i try to be very careful about that stuff. we continue on. we have a great dinner, great conversation.
we get to the hotel around 12 or 12:30. it is time to get down to business. she says that she wants to take a shower with me. that’s a great start. in a/c i was used to the girls locking themselves in the bathroom while they shower alone. we have a lot of fun together in the shower. we wash each other. she inspects my cockasaurus thoroughly. i like that she is careful. she asks if i have condoms. yes. she has a nice body. soft, squeezable, nice sized titties. we make our way to the bed. she is very playful and flirty. once on the bed we get kissy kissy. she proceeds to give me a nice sensual blowjob. nice and slow. wow! i tell her to lay down. i put a pillow under her ass. i almost never do this with a bar girl but i can’t resist with her. i go down on her nicely trimmed sweet pussy. she loves it, moaning softly. after about 10 or 15 minutes she can’t take it anymore and cums in my mouth in a wild rage. she exclaims that this is the first time that she came in three months. i believe it. she is soaking wet. i move up to kiss her. she attacks me, lunging her tongue down my throat and pulling our bodies together with adrenalin-like strength. i am in heaven. i slip on a condom and tell her that i am going to make her cum again. she says that its impossible because she just came. i am pumping her very tight pussy like an oklahoma oil rig. her pussy feels so good. she is enjoying it. i tell her i want her on top, cowgirl. as i pull back to get off of her i start pumping again. she tells me to "lay down". i keep pumping. she starts screaming, literally. she cums again. i can’t help it. i cum, in a big way, deep inside her. both of us cumming at the same time was amazing. more deep kissing. we recover just laying on the bed reflecting on what just happened. we shower again, together.
we go to bed. we lay in bed, her singing to the karaoke channel. about an hour later i turn off the tv and we go to sleep. two minutes later she is in a deep sleep with light snoring. it is 3 am. i have to leave for the airport at 8am. i set the alarm for 6. i didn’t sleep very well. for some reason i never trust my alarm or wake-up call for my flight out. i get her up at 6:15. no complaints from her about the early wakeup. i take a quick shower then she does the same. i am sitting on the bed very tired just staring at the wall when she gets out of the shower. in a disappointed voice she looks at me and says "you don’t want? " i said "of course i want you! "
i tell her to lay down. i have to eat that sweet pussy again. i put a pillow under her ass. i savor that sweet, clean pussy for about 20 minutes. she is loving it and almost cums again but not quite. time is of the essence so i slip on a condom. i tell her that i will make her cum again. i do missionary again. she tells me to lay down. i obey this time. she mounts me cowgirl. nice and slow with deep long strokes. at this point i am contemplating changing my flight. she then changes her tempo and is riding my cock like a crazed pogo-stickist (is that a word? ) moaning, then screaming. she said she just came again. wow! she changes from up and down to grinding me back and forth. i can feel myself bottoming out on her insides but she doesn’t care. i can’t take it anymore and unfortunately the clock is ticking. i cum deep inside her again. i wish this was bareback. if only i could stay! she leans forward and gives me a sweet kiss. i look at my watch on the night stand. shit! it is 7:35! i have to leave at 8. we take a quick shower. i rush to pack the last minute stuff away. she writes down her contact information for me. i will she her again when i return. no doubt.
she rides with me all the way to the airport feeding me cookies for breakfast. we kiss good bye. she says this is not good bye. i agree.
my ermita experience more than made up for my mediocre experiences in a/c. it was probably more luck than anything to find this gem.
southbound69
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Firstly, I'd like to thank you guys for all the reports and ratings - they will come in handy, especially to a newbie like me.
The last time I was there on business, I had the chance to pick up a 8/9 in la cafe and the one night that we had together was the most memorable mongering experience for the past 3 years.
I will be in MNL again later this month, staying in Malate and would really appreciate if someone could help me decide - go to la cafe pick up a sweetie and head for a room around the corner OR get a cab and head to Don Pedro or Air Force 1 and pick one out of the aquarium.
The catch is - I am on holiday with my wife and time is not on my side. The idea is to go to Robinson's and then 'disappear' for 2-3 hours! Do you think the la cafe option will work? What would be the better choice if I have to go to an aquarium for a quickie in terms of distance/time?
Thanking you all in advance.
Firstly, I'd like to thank you guys for all the reports and ratings - they will come in handy, especially to a newbie like me.
The last time I was there on business, I had the chance to pick up a 8/9 in la cafe and the one night that we had together was the most memorable mongering experience for the past 3 years.
I will be in MNL again later this month, staying in Malate and would really appreciate if someone could help me decide - go to la cafe pick up a sweetie and head for a room around the corner OR get a cab and head to Don Pedro or Air Force 1 and pick one out of the aquarium.
The catch is - I am on holiday with my wife and time is not on my side. The idea is to go to Robinson's and then 'disappear' for 2-3 hours! Do you think the la cafe option will work? What would be the better choice if I have to go to an aquarium for a quickie in terms of distance/time?
Thanking you all in advance.
Picking up at LA Cafe and then going to a short time hotel like SOGO would be your best bet. Closest MP is Air Force One which is not a bad option but if you go too early, the selection is not as great. Also if you try going to Palacio Don Pedro, you might get stuck in traffic and that might take you longer than three hours.
--cut--go to la cafe pick up a sweetie and head for a room around the corner OR get a cab and head to Don Pedro or Air Force 1 and pick one out of the aquarium.
The catch is - I am on holiday with my wife and time is not on my side. The idea is to go to Robinson's and then 'disappear' for 2-3 hours! Do you think the la cafe option will work? --cut--
Agree with opinion to go to LA cafe for a quickie. It might not work on the weekend, however, due to a short-to-long wait at SOGO. Even by late morning on weekends near LA, there often is a line.
On that same topic, are there other CLEAN short time places around there?
I used a room at Slouch Hat (ermita) one time. They aren't short time, but cheap and close to LA cafe.
But the original poster is staying in Malate! LA cafe doesn't make sense to me -- too much time in a taxi if he has a curfew.
Are the traffic jams less horrific on weekends?
Alternative to AF?
Maybe say you are going to Mall of Asia. It is near EDSA Entertainment (Pasay) and short time hotels. EDSA opens at 8pm and the mall (other than restaurants) closes shortly afterward. Of course the restaurants stay open later. The M of Asia taxi queue at closing can be quite long, so that is your white lie about your later than expected return.
Back to Ermita / LA cafe area. I think Gamahucher recently recommended the place across the street from Robinsons -- Europhil. He said it is owned by Sogo and has short time availability, but there was no indication of that when I walked in to check room rates a few months ago.
X
Agree with opinion to go to LA cafe for a quickie. It might not work on the weekend, however, due to a short-to-long wait at SOGO. Even by late morning on weekends near LA, there often is a line.
On that same topic, are there other CLEAN short time places around there?
Cunning Stunt
09-12-08, 18:14
Back to Ermita / LA cafe area. I think Gamahucher recently recommended the place across the street from Robinsons -- Europhil. He said it is owned by Sogo and has short time availability, but there was no indication of that when I walked in to check room rates a few months ago.
X
Not Europhil X - that is a dodgy hotel in AC. Eurotel is the name and they sure do a 4 hour ST (called the wash up) rate. Same style rooms as Sogo (but nicer and a little cleaner) and the same menu so I assumed it is owned by the Sogo group. Erm ....nice wall murals there .. I got the London room last time and put it to good use by posing my lass against the backdrop of the Houses of Parliament as seen on my last photo post. Good fun and Filipina's being the conceited creatures they are, get well into it the game. Nothing like a spread ass/pussy shot against a famous edifice. Want the White House room next time :D
I would suggest Talida pre-arranges a room at the Eurotel (day before is best), then loses the strife in Robinsons, pick up your key card at Eurotel, dash to LA cafe, quick beer and pick your girl and then back to the hotel. You could probably do this in 2-3 hours. The only potential hurdle being the quality of the pick-up from LA Cafe which can be hit or miss depending on the time of day. There are also many SW's available in Robinson's and some are very tasty indeed but this depends on the degree of risk he is willing to take (with the wife nearby).
Thanks a lot guys for all the help. Seems like I'm gonna be adventurous and take the prefered option - la cafe. And the ST hotel idea seems good especially Eurotel. Would appreciate if they have internet/ phone bookings available. Do they?
My FR will follow when I get there and done my deed.
To answer my own question - Eurotel Pedro Gil, Pedro Gil, Malate, Tel. 5235164, Fax: 5233679. Thanks to San Miguel.
Thanks for the correction, sorry for the bad info.
X
Not Europhil X - that is a dodgy hotel in AC. Eurotel is the name and they sure do a 4 hour ST (called the wash up) rate. Same style rooms as Sogo (but nicer and a little cleaner) and the same menu so I assumed it is owned by the Sogo group. Erm ....nice wall murals there .. I got the London room last time and put it to good use by posing my lass against the backdrop of the Houses of Parliament as seen on my last photo post. Good fun and Filipina's being the conceited creatures they are, get well into it the game. Nothing like a spread ass/pussy shot against a famous edifice. Want the White House room next time :D
I would suggest Talida pre-arranges a room at the Eurotel (day before is best), then loses the strife in Robinsons, pick up your key card at Eurotel, dash to LA cafe, quick beer and pick your girl and then back to the hotel. You could probably do this in 2-3 hours. The only potential hurdle being the quality of the pick-up from LA Cafe which can be hit or miss depending on the time of day. There are also many SW's available in Robinson's and some are very tasty indeed but this depends on the degree of risk he is willing to take (with the wife nearby).
Not Europhil X - that is a dodgy hotel in AC.
Not any longer.
Last time I saw it's pulled down.
Cheers!
Captain America
09-15-08, 03:07
Redfield10 - the bus from teh CityStateTower is all inclusive (except a few pesos harbor fee they don"t collect until you're on the bus for some reason). the return trip leaves sabang at 9am by boat and drops you back at the CST by about 1:30pm.
As for Malapasqua - the only thing making this a destination is the thresher shark diving. Otherwise there are better beaches in more accessible locations almost everywhere. And it is definitely BYOG....
Sorry to disagree with you Ekspat, but my impression was that the gutted Europhil I saw way back in early August was an attempt at renovation. It may rise again.
But if I'm wrong, I owe you the beverage of your choice.
X
And if the NEW Europhil has a go/go bar downstairs, let's meet there!
Not any longer.
Last time I saw it's pulled down.
Cheers!
Redfield10
09-15-08, 15:41
Hi,
I've sent a couple of PM's but thought I might also ask a general question on here.
I arrive Oct. 25th very early and will be staying at City State Towers in Manila. I want to leave from City State Towers on the morning of the 27th and go to Sabang and stay three nights. I've gotten great info about how to sign up in the lobby through Sikat Tourist Service, etc. I can get a RT ticket which is a bus trip to Batangas and then a ferry to Sabang (or near there). (I'm also hoping to bring my own woman, but I also hear there's go-gos there. So women there, too).
However, since it's All Soul's Day end of that week I'm wondering:
1. Is it going to be so busy that I need to book in advance of arriving?
2. I don't even know if this is possible, so do I just need to chance it and sign up when I arrive?
3. Is it anything I even need to worry about? I already have a hotel reserved (no down payment required) in Sabang. So no worries there.
Thanks again, guys. I'm just trying to line up as much as I can in advance so I won't have any major surprises. It's my first time travelling to the Phils.
Cunning Stunt
09-15-08, 17:14
Not any longer.
Last time I saw it's pulled down.
Cheers!
Hopefully they will have really pulled the dump down and not be merely renovating it as X suggests.
I stayed their once but not for long. The room I got had a bathroom shower cubicle that was missing an outlet drain (WTF? - only in the Philippines :)) so every time you used the shower, the bathroom flooded. I've also heard rumour of valuables that have gone missing from safe deposit boxes there. GH
Southbound69
09-16-08, 01:31
I have a question for you veteran mongers. I need advice. I will be returning to Manila in November. I plan to take a freelancer from Manila that I met recently on a trip for a few days, probably Baguio or Boracay.
Since I will be covering all her expenses, I. E. Transport, food, hotel and a gift or two etc. Should I be expected to pay her normal daily rate? Say her normal rate is 2500p for one night. Since I am buying in bulk and paying expenses is it normal to get a discount or just pay full price? I’m not trying to be cheap, I just want to know the rules. This is a freelancer not a barfine.
Thanks guys.
Southbound69
No problem getting the bus/ferry ticket same day. I have made the trip several times, and the bus was never near full. Because it's significantly more expensive than local service from Pasay City. Once I brought my own girl, a GF, but sent her back early. There are some fabulous, fresh beauties in the go-go bars.
Hi,
I've sent a couple of PM's but thought I might also ask a general question on here.
I arrive Oct. 25th very early and will be staying at City State Towers in Manila. I want to leave from City State Towers on the morning of the 27th and go to Sabang and stay three nights. I've gotten great info about how to sign up in the lobby through Sikat Tourist Service, etc. I can get a RT ticket which is a bus trip to Batangas and then a ferry to Sabang (or near there). (I'm also hoping to bring my own woman, but I also hear there's go-gos there. So women there, too).
However, since it's All Soul's Day end of that week I'm wondering:
1. Is it going to be so busy that I need to book in advance of arriving?
2. I don't even know if this is possible, so do I just need to chance it and sign up when I arrive?
3. Is it anything I even need to worry about? I already have a hotel reserved (no down payment required) in Sabang. So no worries there.
Thanks again, guys. I'm just trying to line up as much as I can in advance so I won't have any major surprises. It's my first time travelling to the Phils.
Cunning Stunt
09-16-08, 08:16
I have a question for you veteran mongers. I need advice. I will be returning to Manila in November. I plan to take a freelancer from Manila that I met recently on a trip for a few days, probably Baguio or Boracay.
Since I will be covering all her expenses, I. E. Transport, food, hotel and a gift or two etc. Should I be expected to pay her normal daily rate? Say her normal rate is 2500p for one night. Since I am buying in bulk and paying expenses is it normal to get a discount or just pay full price? I’m not trying to be cheap, I just want to know the rules. This is a freelancer not a barfine.
Thanks guys.
Southbound69
Hi SB69, I would say that, for her, it would be a nice little break from the grind of daily life in Manila. For that reason she may not expect much recompense, especially if she likes you. Presume you are in contact with her - why not ask, obliquely if you don't feel comfortable with the direct approach. If she indicates that she expects financial gain from the arrangement then I would suggest that P1.5 to 2T a day would be more than generous. GH
Professor10
09-16-08, 15:21
Since she is a freelancer and she is making good 'steady money' for the 2-3 days, then offering her 1000 to 1,500 is more than sufficient. Given you will be feeding, housing, and boinking her for those many days, she should be thrilled to even get that.
Puerto La Cruz
09-16-08, 17:31
Since she is a freelancer and she is making good 'steady money' for the 2-3 days, then offering her 1000 to 1,500 is more than sufficient. Given you will be feeding, housing, and boinking her for those many days, she should be thrilled to even get that.
She sould be tickled pink!!!!
Khun Larry
09-17-08, 04:38
In a few weeks I am going to be coming to the Philippines for a three-day weekend, and would like to arrange a weekend party with three high-end ladies. What's the story on agencies for these high-end girls?
What kind of high end you have going on
So an appropriate ho can be recommended
San Miguel
09-17-08, 07:04
Hi,
I've sent a couple of PM's but thought I might also ask a general question on here.
I arrive Oct. 25th very early and will be staying at City State Towers in Manila. I want to leave from City State Towers on the morning of the 27th and go to Sabang and stay three nights. I've gotten great info about how to sign up in the lobby through Sikat Tourist Service, etc. I can get a RT ticket which is a bus trip to Batangas and then a ferry to Sabang (or near there). (I'm also hoping to bring my own woman, but I also hear there's go-gos there. So women there, too).
However, since it's All Soul's Day end of that week I'm wondering:
1. Is it going to be so busy that I need to book in advance of arriving?
2. I don't even know if this is possible, so do I just need to chance it and sign up when I arrive?
3. Is it anything I even need to worry about? I already have a hotel reserved (no down payment required) in Sabang. So no worries there.
Thanks again, guys. I'm just trying to line up as much as I can in advance so I won't have any major surprises. It's my first time travelling to the Phils.On the night of October 31st until the morning or afternoon of Nov 1, expect traffic going out of Manila as a lot of people would be rushing to go to provinces and visit their dead loved ones.
The night of Nov 2 til morning of Nov 3, you can also expect traffic going to Manila. And inside Manila, there could also be traffic near cemeteries due to road closures.
Not to mention the hordes of people in the Batangas port.
So unless it is absolutely necessary, avoid travel during those days. Stay in Sabang if you must!
Cheers!
Super Sun7979
09-17-08, 15:39
So I have a 4 hour layover coming up in Manilla (4pm-8pm).
Does anyone know of any place close to the airport where I can have some fun (massage parlor, strip club)?
I know 4pm is a bit early to find some action, but just wanted to see if anyone can share any knowledge on this.
Thanks in advance
Thanks for the ancedote Gamahucher. Did you share that information earlier when the hotel was still operational? When did you stay there -- just asking since it seem the hotel is ancient history.
I've never stayed there....although I'm a sucker for a place that has a pool. I got bad vibes when I looked at the place, not to mention viewing a mildewy smelling room.
Regardless of the terms of reconstruction at that site, I would assume things will be better than before. So, looking forward to the new construction.
X
Hopefully they will have really pulled the dump down and not be merely renovating it as X suggests.
I stayed their once but not for long. The room I got had a bathroom shower cubicle that was missing an outlet drain (WTF? - only in the Philippines :)) so every time you used the shower, the bathroom flooded. I've also heard rumour of valuables that have gone missing from safe deposit boxes there. GH
Have you offered this trip and has she agreed? Has she been on an airplane before? Do you expect gfe?
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The answer to your main question is NO, but I don't know your circumstances, goals, intentions, etc. I don't know didldly about the girl. I can't give you an informed answer, sorry.
Last time I asked a guy for a bit of EXTRA information, he blasted me. Maybe just better to follow the Gamahucher advice. Pay her whatever she wants. She'll be happy, that's for sure. No, wait, she'll probably think you're an idiot. Or maybe Ghucher thinks you're an idiot.
X
I have a question for you veteran mongers. I need advice. I will be returning to Manila in November. I plan to take a freelancer from Manila that I met recently on a trip for a few days, probably Baguio or Boracay.
Since I will be covering all her expenses, I. E. Transport, food, hotel and a gift or two etc. Should I be expected to pay her normal daily rate? Say her normal rate is 2500p for one night. Since I am buying in bulk and paying expenses is it normal to get a discount or just pay full price? I’m not trying to be cheap, I just want to know the rules. This is a freelancer not a barfine.
Thanks guys.
Southbound69
Southbound69
09-18-08, 03:27
Have you offered this trip and has she agreed? Has she been on an airplane before? Do you expect gfe?
The answer to your main question is NO, but I don't know your circumstances, goals, intentions, etc. I don't know didldly about the girl. I can't give you an informed answer, sorry.
Last time I asked a guy for a bit of EXTRA information, he blasted me. Maybe just better to follow the Gamahucher advice. Pay her whatever she wants. She'll be happy, that's for sure. No, wait, she'll probably think you're an idiot. Or maybe Ghucher thinks you're an idiot.
XThanks guys for the replys. Good, useful info.
X man,
I was just posing a question to a simple senario. It wasn't meant to invoke deep thought. As I have never before traveled with a WG I was curious as to what may be expected of me financially.
We have a tentative agreement to travel together minus a payment agreement as of now.
Yes, she has been on an airplane.
And Yes, I fully expect a GFE, if not, why bother.
Southbound69
So I have a 4 hour layover coming up in Manilla (4pm-8pm).
Does anyone know of any place close to the airport where I can have some fun (massage parlor, strip club)?
I know 4pm is a bit early to find some action, but just wanted to see if anyone can share any knowledge on this.
Thanks in advance
Air Force One is very close to the airport. No problem with luggage because they will hold it for you if needed.
Cunning Stunt
09-18-08, 08:59
Last time I asked a guy for a bit of EXTRA information, he blasted me. Maybe just better to follow the Gamahucher advice. Pay her whatever she wants. She'll be happy, that's for sure. No, wait, she'll probably think you're an idiot. Or maybe Ghucher thinks you're an idiot.
X
You in your Hyde persona X, or is it merely the wrong time of the month;). For a guy who likes to get things right, you sure misrepresented my words. Suggest you re-read my post and then tell me where I said 'pay her whatever she wants'? There is really only one poster here that I have absolutely decided is an idiot!
Thanks for the ancedote Gamahucher. Did you share that information earlier when the hotel was still operational? When did you stay there -- just asking since it seem the hotel is ancient history.
X
No problem X. The last time I stayed at the Europhil, Clinton was still in the White House. In fact apart from a couple of short visits (and departing from the airport), I have not been to AC since. Place is too full of bad vibes with far too many scammers, runners and cherry girls for my liking. Keep meaning to make the trip down for a few days, but everytime I decide, I read a negative report here, and shelve my trip. Hope to get there next month so lets have some good, positive reports about the place, lads.
HornyGeorge
09-18-08, 18:15
SB: If you're paying her way you need not pay a daily rate (unless she is a hard core just in it for the pera in which case why bother to take her?). At the end, in addition to gifts, I'd give her 1000 or so for each day she spent with you.
Baguio is VERY cold and rainy this time of year, plus its boring. As we are in peak typhoon season, the farther South you go the better (weatherwise). If you can afford $100 a day or so I'd suggest the Pearl Farm in the Samal Gulf near Davao. Or on a lower budget Camiguin Island or Moalboal, Cebu.
Super Sun7979
09-19-08, 16:37
Air Force One is very close to the airport. No problem with luggage because they will hold it for you if needed.Thanks for the response Horntoad. Does anyone know where I can get a quick BJ during my layover? I guess someone closer to the airport would be ideal. My layover is from 4-8pm, is that enough time?
Thanks everyone
You're right, I exagerrated. I thought you paid way too much, nevertheless I was wrong to say you were in the practice of paying "whatever". My apologies.
Name calling, Gamahucher? Well, we would have thought you were a bit less thin skinned.
Go for it. I won't lower myself to that level.
X
You in your Hyde persona X, or is it merely the wrong time of the month;). For a guy who likes to get things right, you sure misrepresented my words. Suggest you re-read my post and then tell me where I said 'pay her whatever she wants'? There is really only one poster here that I have absolutely decided is an idiot!
No problem X. The last time I stayed at the Europhil, Clinton was still in the White House. In fact apart from a couple of short visits (and departing from the airport), I have not been to AC since. Place is too full of bad vibes with far too many scammers, runners and cherry girls for my liking. Keep meaning to make the trip down for a few days, but everytime I decide, I read a negative report here, and shelve my trip. Hope to get there next month so lets have some good, positive reports about the place, lads.
Good summary by HGeorge. Sorry SB, but deep thought is something i find hard to avoid. I guess it's kind of a detriment when dealing with some of the more notorious ISG personalities. :-)
1000 a day thank you money sounds about right for a bar girl. My own style is to give the girl (regardless of occupation) some money for OUR various expenses. I do not want to bang my head against the wall dealing with Filipinos about money -- so my Fil friend should take care of that. If questioned,about why the money, I would say, "If I lose my wallet, then we still have money!"
It sounds like SB has himself a great holiday set up. Have fun.
X
SB: If you're paying her way you need not pay a daily rate (unless she is a hard core just in it for the pera in which case why bother to take her?). At the end, in addition to gifts, I'd give her 1000 or so for each day she spent with you.
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Sorry to disagree with you Ekspat, but my impression was that the gutted Europhil I saw way back in early August was an attempt at renovation.
Will be there next week. :D I'll update you then.
Cheers!
Cunning Stunt
09-22-08, 07:02
Heads up guys – I spotted a really horny creature in Robinsons Mall, Malate. Watch out for the BJ’s though :D.
For a guy who has in fact showed a bit of wit in the past, you've sure come up with some duds lately.
Next thing we know you'll be posting pics of plaid bell bottoms like your mentor.
X
Heads up guys – I spotted a really horny creature in Robinsons Mall, Malate. Watch out for the BJ’s though :D.
Cunning Stunt
09-22-08, 17:43
For a guy who has in fact showed a bit of wit in the past, you've sure come up with some duds lately.
Next thing we know you'll be posting pics of plaid bell bottoms like your mentor.
XYou will have to get up earlier in the morning to wind me up, asshole :D.
When you guys go to check in SOHO, does it need passport or not? If so, you take passport when you hung out?
When you go to SOHO/SOGO check it, does it need passport or not?
It's interesting how there is a little smiley at the end of every personal insult this guy spews. I always thought the smiley was a cue that you were joking and everyone should have a laugh.
I can't help imagining GHucher laughing all by himself. How sad.
Sorry for being off topic in the MNL thread. There used to be a FLAME thread on the ISG PI board, which I thought was ridiculous at the time. I can't seem to find it now. Too bad.
You will have to get up earlier in the morning to wind me up, asshole :D.
Cunning Stunt
09-23-08, 18:32
I can't help imagining GHucher laughing all by himself. How sad.
Hahaha - not according to my PM's - you think your Mister Big on this forum but many have you pegged as a sad loser and I tend to concur. :D :D :D
My apologies to all other members of this forum - this tit/tat shit will now cease (at least from me) as it has become far too tedious for words and I suspect X would continue till hell freezes. Lets get back to subject in hand.
And all because I tried to inject a little light relief with a silly photo. What a fucker :D GH
Sangoo - no passport required at any ST hotel I have used (and I've used most). This includes Sogo.
When you go to SOHO/SOGO check it, does it need passport or not?Nothing but cash or card:D No questions have ever been asked of me.
Robb
Puerto La Cruz
09-24-08, 03:08
Nothing but cash or card:D No questions have ever been asked of me.
Robb
Cash is king at Sogo.
Cash is king all over the world.
Redfield10
09-24-08, 06:04
I apologize if this is explicit on the threads, but it's sort of a multi-part question.
First, generally when I travel to Thailand I bring cash, travellers checks, and also a couple of credit cards. I've yet to use my ATM card there, but I'm sure it would work.
In the Phils, I've read that travellers checks aren't accepted as readily. I'm always nervous about using my ATM card and relying solely on it. And actually haven't used it in a foreign country yet. So.
Shall I bring cash and travellers checks with ATM card as backup (assuming it will work). Or
Just cash and either no or limited traveller checks. (bring ATM, also).
Or. Any other ideas? What do you folks generally do?
Thanks
Member #4647
09-24-08, 10:47
Just ask for a 20% discount card and they will give it to you.
That's what SHE said!
Mister Big .
Did anyone ever here of a bar called main track. I was wondering what kind of bar it is.
JasonKramer
09-24-08, 22:51
Some of the ATM machines have a 3k -5k pesos limit. And you get charged like crazy every time you make a withdrawal ( from the local and US bank ) I always make a withdrawal limit at the HSBC bank. There are several, one by Burgos, downtown, Rockwell Powerplant Mall, Greenhills mall, etc. HSBC is an international bank so they are 24 security and customer service is along the needs of a westerner, plus I can take it whatever I want.
If you need to exchange money, ALWAYS go to Sanry's. They have the best rate in Manila. ( Burgos St., Glorietta mall and Robinson's )
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Shall I bring cash and travellers checks with ATM card as backup (assuming it will work). Or
Just cash and either no or limited traveller checks. (bring ATM, also).
Or. Any other ideas? What do you folks generally do?
Juant Pussy
09-25-08, 07:22
My friend gets a atm card from kwik remit in US. About $15 for first $1000. They exchange into peso and give you atm card through China bank. He leaves the card for his relatives. He can add more money to the card in he US.
I plan combination of cash and ATM.
Some of the ATM machines have a 3k -5k pesos limit. And you get charged like crazy every time you make a withdrawal ( from the local and US bank ) I always make a withdrawal limit at the HSBC bank. There are several, one by Burgos, downtown, Rockwell Powerplant Mall, Greenhills mall, etc. HSBC is an international bank so they are 24 security and customer service is along the needs of a westerner, plus I can take it whatever I want.
If you need to exchange money, ALWAYS go to Sanry's. They have the best rate in Manila. ( Burgos St., Glorietta mall and Robinson's )
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Shall I bring cash and travellers checks with ATM card as backup (assuming it will work). Or
Just cash and either no or limited traveller checks. (bring ATM, also).
Or. Any other ideas? What do you folks generally do?
GoodEnough
09-26-08, 10:41
I'm always surprised at this debate, since I cannot understand why anyone would want to carry lots of cash and risk: getting it stolen, losing it; looking around frantically for an honest bureau de change, etc. To me, the best solution is to bring a Visa Debit card. Use it as a Visa card for hotels, restaurants, purchases in larger stores. The transaction fees are small, and the exchange valuation significantly better (for me at least) than what you would get from changing money on the street or from a bank. Then, use the ATM function to withdraw money. HSBC lets you take out Php40,000 per day (about $900), which should be enough for most people's cash requirements. Sure, there's a fee charged by your bank in the US or Europe. In my case, it's $3.50. But if you limit the number of transactions, it's not a big deal.
In five years of living here, I've found this by far the least expensive and most convenient expedient.
GE
Redfield10
09-26-08, 15:24
Thanks GE,
Actually, I have a Visa Debit Card through my Credit Union. I use it in the US, but never used it abroad, so hopefully it will work fine as I'd just as soon not bring a lot of cash. I think it's called a "Visa Check Card", but then at the bottom it does say "Visa Debit. " The teller told me it can either be a credit or a debit card. I think the only real difference is tha the "credit" limit is higher? I'll have to check again.
Sound right? So, if I take some cash and then use this card for any other purchases, hopefully, I will be ok. I guess I can take another credit card just in case the Visa Debit Card doesn't work for some reason.
Thanks, again.
I'm always surprised at this debate, since I cannot understand why anyone would want to carry lots of cash and risk: getting it stolen, losing it; looking around frantically for an honest bureau de change, etc. To me, the best solution is to bring a Visa Debit card. Use it as a Visa card for hotels, restaurants, purchases in larger stores. The transaction fees are small, and the exchange valuation significantly better (for me at least) than what you would get from changing money on the street or from a bank. Then, use the ATM function to withdraw money. HSBC lets you take out Php40,000 per day (about $900), which should be enough for most people's cash requirements. Sure, there's a fee charged by your bank in the US or Europe. In my case, it's $3.50. But if you limit the number of transactions, it's not a big deal.
In five years of living here, I've found this by far the least expensive and most convenient expedient.
GE
I'm not expert and you'll want to check with your bank, but some debit cards have no protection against fraud. If I spot a phony charge on my Amex I can dispute it and have a 99% probability of getting it erased. I don't believe most debit (check) cards have this protection. Some may allow your entire account to be drained.
Reef
Thanks GE,
Actually, I have a Visa Debit Card through my Credit Union. I use it in the US, but never used it abroad, so hopefully it will work fine as I'd just as soon not bring a lot of cash. I think it's called a "Visa Check Card", but then at the bottom it does say "Visa Debit. " The teller told me it can either be a credit or a debit card. I think the only real difference is tha the "credit" limit is higher? I'll have to check again.
Puerto La Cruz
09-26-08, 17:25
Just make sure you notify your bank that you will be using the card during certain dates in the Philippines, otherise transactions may be stopped.
GoodEnough
09-26-08, 18:29
Thanks GE,
Actually, I have a Visa Debit Card through my Credit Union. I use it in the US, but never used it abroad, so hopefully it will work fine as I'd just as soon not bring a lot of cash. I think it's called a "Visa Check Card", but then at the bottom it does say "Visa Debit. " The teller told me it can either be a credit or a debit card. I think the only real difference is tha the "credit" limit is higher? I'll have to check again.
Sound right? So, if I take some cash and then use this card for any other purchases, hopefully, I will be ok. I guess I can take another credit card just in case the Visa Debit Card doesn't work for some reason.
Thanks, again.
Your card sounds pretty much like the one I have. I think it allows you to charge up to the balance that's in your account. I also have a regular Visa that I use from time to time and I find that these cards are about all I need. I think that notifying your bank that you're going to be out of the country is a good idea, since the programs that check for fraud look for variations in spending patterns. I let my bank know every couple of months that I'm still in the Philippines, and prior to taking this trip to Cambodia, also notified the bank of my travel plans. I've had no problems using the card here, either as a Visa or as a debit card.
GE
Redfield10
09-26-08, 20:25
Thanks guys.
I did tAlk to my Credit Union (they issued the card) and the teller said the only problems the have sometimes in foreign countries is that sometimes the ATM will try and take money out of your "saving" account rather than your "checking" account. And to keep enough money in each account. Which seems pretty stupid to me.
Think that will happen?
JasonKramer
09-27-08, 00:35
Great post, GE. I've been here a little over a year now and since I started a company, it was a headache going to the BPI and having to take out money a week ahead of time and getting charged like crazy from the banks. Also, this particular BPI machine would only let me take out 5k at a time so I would be hit with the $3.50 fee every time. I finally went over the the HSBC off of Makati Ave and it's great. They have 24 hour security and it's much better than taking money out of some shady areas where there are a lot of beggars, etc.
By they way, I was always curious about what rates the banks uses when taking out pesos from my US dollar account. Every bank is different, right? Are you saying that HSBC gives the best rate? And how would you know what rate they are giving you prior to the withdrawal?
I'm always surprised at this debate, since I cannot understand why anyone would want to carry lots of cash and risk: getting it stolen, losing it; looking around frantically for an honest bureau de change, etc. To me, the best solution is to bring a Visa Debit card. Use it as a Visa card for hotels, restaurants, purchases in larger stores. The transaction fees are small, and the exchange valuation significantly better (for me at least) than what you would get from changing money on the street or from a bank. Then, use the ATM function to withdraw money. HSBC lets you take out Php40,000 per day (about $900), which should be enough for most people's cash requirements. Sure, there's a fee charged by your bank in the US or Europe. In my case, it's $3.50. But if you limit the number of transactions, it's not a big deal.
In five years of living here, I've found this by far the least expensive and most convenient expedient.
GE
To get the best conversion rates in PI is to bring USD with you. I usually frequent the money changer called Sandry's in Glorietta (entrance facing SM)or the one in Greenbelt 1 (near national book store) as it's safe and a well established location. The rates they provide is almost on par to the daily exchange rate (my favorite site to view up-to-date rates - http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/currencies/asiapac_currencies.html). All other currencies do not get as close as the current exchange rate compared to the USD and this is based on my experience since living here for 4 yrs.
If you are stuck with using an ATM, the best ATMs to use is indeed HSBC. Based on my experience I never got charged from HSBC for using their ATM. In addition you can withdraw a max amount of 40,000 Php which is the highest amount in one single transaction. The are a few other ATMs that has 30,000 Php set for the max withdrawn but I can ony recall Citibank as I don't use too many other ATMs as HSBC is my most visited one. So if you are going to get charged per transaction I suggest you use HSBC and just take a largest withdraw amount and lock the extra cash in your hotel safe.
I never use the local PI Bank ATMs as most have a set limit of 5-10,000 Php per transaction. Not really worth using them since you have to pay your local bank an ATM transaction fee.
Jasonkramer - regarding your question on HSBC giving the best rates, this all dependant on what your actual rate is from your local bank. I do have an HSBC account in the US and the rate they use is actually pretty sh*ty compared to the official exchange rate. Even though they don't charge you for the transaction if you use a foreign HSBC card you do get hit by the conversion rate. I recall losing around 10-15 USD per transaction when I use my HSBC card and this is base don taking out 40,000 php.
GoodEnough
09-27-08, 11:57
By they way, I was always curious about what rates the banks uses when taking out pesos from my US dollar account. Every bank is different, right? Are you saying that HSBC gives the best rate? And how would you know what rate they are giving you prior to the withdrawal?
Sorry, I did not mean to mislead anyone. I have no idea what rate the bank is going to give me prior to making the withdrawal, though I always check quickly after. It seems to me as if I consistently get within a couple of tenths of the published exchange rates.
GE
The Wanderer
09-28-08, 03:18
Thanks guys.
I did tAlk to my Credit Union (they issued the card) and the teller said the only problems the have sometimes in foreign countries is that sometimes the ATM will try and take money out of your "saving" account rather than your "checking" account. And to keep enough money in each account. Which seems pretty stupid to me.
Think that will happen?
I would be curious to know if the Teller had ever been to SE Asia.
The issue may be caused by the fact that in many SE Asian countries inc PI the ATM network is set up so you can use one card to take cash from multiple accounts. So I can use my (asian issued) ATM or Credit card to take from either Current (checking in US) savings or by Credit card cash advance, by telling the ATM which account to take from. Its easy and I only need to take one card out with me on the street.
In my experience the problem occurs in one of two ways, in some countries (india is an example) they call their Savings account what I would call my current account or cheque account. The other problem which may occur (and I have this in Thai) is what account your bank has designated as your main account. Using the example of Thailand again, they can only take cash from your main account and if that has been designated by your Bank as ur savings then thats where the card will look for the cash.
Redfield10
09-28-08, 07:58
Well, then, in my Credit Union Account I have a 1. Regular Share Account and a 2. Share Draft account. In the U.S. it takes money from the "Share Draft "account..which I consider my "checking" account since I write check on that account.
So, in the Phils, can I assume it will take money out of the "Share Draft" account like it does here?
I would be curious to know if the Teller had ever been to SE Asia.
The issue may be caused by the fact that in many SE Asian countries inc PI the ATM network is set up so you can use one card to take cash from multiple accounts. So I can use my (asian issued) ATM or Credit card to take from either Current (checking in US) savings or by Credit card cash advance, by telling the ATM which account to take from. Its easy and I only need to take one card out with me on the street.
In my experience the problem occurs in one of two ways, in some countries (india is an example) they call their Savings account what I would call my current account or cheque account. The other problem which may occur (and I have this in Thai) is what account your bank has designated as your main account. Using the example of Thailand again, they can only take cash from your main account and if that has been designated by your Bank as ur savings then thats where the card will look for the cash.
Candelaria
09-28-08, 16:23
I notice very little is written here about hunting in the malls in Philippines. I had previously been successful to score a few 7's and 8's in the past in Harrison Plaza mall. usually, the girls hang out at the second floor waiting for johns, like us. It is easy to spot them as they will maintain eye contacts with you. The rates were pretty good, between 700p to 1000p. Does any one any idea about other malls that have many WG for sale?
Cunning Stunt
09-28-08, 17:48
i notice very little is written here about hunting in the malls in philippines. i had previously been successful to score a few 7's and 8's in the past in harrison plaza mall. usually, the girls hang out at the second floor waiting for johns, like us. it is easy to spot them as they will maintain eye contacts with you. the rates were pretty good, between 700p to 1000p. does any one any idea about other malls that have many wg for sale?
pulled a few chicks myself in the past from harrison plaza. you can take the direct approach or use one of the pimps that hang around the first floor (don't think there is a second floor). for p200 or so (no play, no pay) they will round up their stable and parade them in front of your discerning eye. but be careful as some are obviously ****. rates are about p1t st (3 hours, 2 pops). alternatively you can sit at one of the ground floor cafes and trawl for amateurs. if you spot something nice and she gives you the pinay direct look, smile and wave over. works quite often.
these days the main competitor to hp for fls is robinsons mall, malate although there seems to be a high profile, almost para-military security force guarding the place these days and fls are spotted and moved on quite quickly. however if you have time on your hands and hang out for a while at one of the pleasant cafes with outside seating (but still in the mall), like starbucks or even better figaro's, you can trawl for amateurs as described above. its a pleasant way to spend a couple of hours and if you are unsuccessful, you always have the fallback of la cafe which is a short walk away. gh
I am planning a stopover in Manila for about one week and this will be my very first time in the city. My only other experience of the Phillipines is Cebu where I have been a few times before.
I would appreciate some advice from fellow mongers who are experienced visitors to Manila. I want to stay somewhere central that is within walking distance to all the action (if that is possible) and quite safe to walk around at night (as much as it can be in any city around the world). I was hoping there might be a PP equivalent of somewhere like Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok?
Also how much should I expect to pay for a taxi from the airport to the hotel?
I know it can be annoying when people ask for advice when they are too lazy to RTFF but I have spent the last couple of hours reading through the posts and feel a bit confused and none the wiser!
I wont be there until late November, but I will promise to leave some posts about my experiences in return for your help
I am planning a stopover in Manila for about one week and this will be my very first time in the city. My only other experience of the Phillipines is Cebu where I have been a few times before.
I would appreciate some advice from fellow mongers who are experienced visitors to Manila. I want to stay somewhere central that is within walking distance to all the action (if that is possible) and quite safe to walk around at night (as much as it can be in any city around the world). I was hoping there might be a PP equivalent of somewhere like Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok?
Also how much should I expect to pay for a taxi from the airport to the hotel?
I know it can be annoying when people ask for advice when they are too lazy to RTFF but I have spent the last couple of hours reading through the posts and feel a bit confused and none the wiser!
I wont be there until late November, but I will promise to leave some posts about my experiences in return for your help
Mongering in Manila is different than BKK because it is not condensed like BKK. Also the transit system is not like BKK where it can take you to soapies and oilies. Traffic is really bad in Manila and unlike BKK, there are times you will have to wait a long time for a taxi from the mall. Taxi from airport to Ermita or Makati should be around 150p to 250p.
I would recommend Ermita/Malate area for a first timer because it is close to LA Cafe which is a freelancer bar. At night you can take a taxi to EDSA which has about eight bars. Also that area has a mall called Robinson's Ermita and there are a lot of GF friendly hotels close by.
Stay in Malate. Call any of these 3 hotels (all connected) for reservations: Palm Plaza (02-522-1000) Las palmas (521-1000) or Executive Plaza. After you land and get your luggage, walk upstairs to where taxis drop departing passengers and get a meter taxi to Malate for about 150p (actual meter is about 100). Make reservations ahead of time. Walk to Robinson's Mall and enjoy scenery and plenty of restaurants. In evening take taxi to EDSA (meter is about 90p) where the latest barfine is 1400p. Can walk to LA Cafe, it is open 24hrs. /7 days a week. Security is good at all 3 hotels and may ask your girl for her ID card and will call your room if she leaves the premises without you.
Thanks for your guidance I really appreciate it. I often think that the forum threads could do with a guide for newbies visiting a place for the first time, where all the essential information is condensed into a short informative report.
I wont arrive until late November and plan to stay in Manila for a week and then head to my old hunting grounds in Cebu. Following that a further week in Thailand should just about finish me off nicely for the end of 2008
Candelaria
09-29-08, 18:59
I have not come across many reports of picking up girls from local pinoy clubs. In August, I visited a few Filipino clubs in Paranaque city, near Lopez avenue. I was told by the mamasans that none of the Fiilpino clubs offer bar-fines. But you are allowed to exchange phone numbers with GRO's. Ladies drinks are P130 and the GRO will entertain you for 20 minutes. With 100P tips, you can touch the girl anywhere. I was able to do a girl for 500P couch upstairs. This is a cheaper choice compared to clubs at Burgos. I took the phone number of one of the GRO and do the girl during the daytime. The girl then becomes my girl friend. I think this is easier than searching in cherry blossoms or DIA site.
I also visited a few go-go bar type of local clubs, but the ladies drink are pretty steep - PHP390 per hour. usually, there will a few ugly girls dancing naked....not a pretty sight!
Cande Laria
JasonKramer
09-29-08, 19:26
Thanks for the info. I wish I would of known this when I got here. I also have two bank accounts here. One at BDO and Export Bank. I go in there once a week and deposit my US bank checks. It takes 21 business days to clear but going in there every week, it's almost like I'm waiting only one week. If the rates are good, I withdrawal from my dollar account and go over to Sanry's. If the rates are low, then I will just take money out of my pesos account.
JLee. Do you live here in the Phils? Would love to grab a beer if you are around Makati. You can reach me [Email address deleted by Admin]. You can figure out the rest. Thanks again for the info.
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I was in Manila for 4 days in mid-August for a short business trip. As usual, I stayed at the Executive Plaza. You can't beat $50 a night for a nice, clean and spacious room. The only complaint being the shower. The water pressure is so weak. The food is great, especially the senegang beef soup after drinking all night.
Anyhow, the only mongering I got to do was hanging out at the LA Cafe. I love this place. I like to have beers and watch the girls just vie for your attention. One of the days, I caught the attention of a stunner who was trying to help her "ugly" friend make money by getting her a customer. The stunner's name is Lyka. She is the best looking girl I've ever seen at LA Cafe IMHO hands down. Lyka, me and her ugly friend partied hard, drinking heavily into the night. I was trying so hard to get Lyka to go home with me but all she wanted to do was try to get her ugly friend to go home with me which I refused in a nice way. Lyka kept saying that she was on her period and blah blah blah and her ugly friend needed money for blah blah blah.
I finally gave up trying, but not before having a great time with Lyka. Dirty dancing, teasing and kissing for 2-3 hours. Needless to say it was a huge disappointment as she would've been great fuck. I did get her cell phone number so I will try to fuck her next time I'm in Manila. She had an amazing body and face and obviously a heart of gold trying to help her friend. I see this happening a lot in LA Cafe. A hot girl will try to hook up a less blessed girlfriend by getting a man's attention only to try to get the man to go with the girlfriend. Sort of switch and bait right in front of your eyes.
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As mentioned in my previous report, I love LA Cafe. I like the relaxed atmosphere of a normal bar with guaranteed pussy! Many of you LA Cafe regulars will no doubt know Marimar. The blonde ambition. I met her last year less the blond hair. She is great fun to hang out and drink with. She has an absolutely gorgeous body. Big butt and tight as a drum. Her skin is so smooth just touching it will give you an instant hard on. She knows she is hot and will not go with you for anything less than 2500 ST. I played with her on one of the nights I was there in mid-August. Definitely worth every peso.
GoodEnough
10-01-08, 10:01
I too am a devotee of the LA Cafe. I love the spontaneity of it all and the uncertainty. You never know exactly what you're going to see, who will be there, whether you'll finding anyone who appeals to you, or if there will be so many that you will have a tough time choosing. It's like an unending movie, with every viewing slightly different than the time before.
I've also developed an affinity for the LA "Annex" or whatever it's called, right across the street. It's a great way to escape the crowds for 30 minutes or so, or to wait for a new wave of possibilities to come washing ashore if the first wave wasn't to your liking.
GE
Doubleflush
10-01-08, 23:22
I am planning a stopover in Manila for about one week and this will be my very first time in the city. My only other experience of the Phillipines is Cebu where I have been a few times before.
I would appreciate some advice from fellow mongers who are experienced visitors to Manila. I want to stay somewhere central that is within walking distance to all the action (if that is possible) and quite safe to walk around at night (as much as it can be in any city around the world). I was hoping there might be a PP equivalent of somewhere like Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok?
Also how much should I expect to pay for a taxi from the airport to the hotel?
I know it can be annoying when people ask for advice when they are too lazy to RTFF but I have spent the last couple of hours reading through the posts and feel a bit confused and none the wiser!
I wont be there until late November, but I will promise to leave some posts about my experiences in return for your helpThese hotels are only a 5 minute taxi ride from P. Burgos street (location of about 20 bars packed full of beautiful women). I have actually walked to P. Burgos from Peninsula Hotel on a few occasions (maybe 1.5 miles?).
Peninsula Hotel (4-5 star)
Intercontinental (3 star)
Dusit (3 star)
Shangri La (4-5 star)
Hotels on P. Burgos St:
These hotels are right in the middle of the action. Simply walk down the street in either direction and within 30 seconds you will be in front of a bar full of women. If you don't like the selection in the bar, move to the bar right next door, etc.
Makati Palace (2-3 star)
City Garden (2-3 star)
Happy Mongering!
DF
Muzungufotsy
10-02-08, 02:30
As mentioned in my previous report, I love LA Cafe. I like the relaxed atmosphere of a normal bar with guaranteed pussy! Many of you LA Cafe regulars will no doubt know Marimar. The blonde ambition. I met her last year less the blond hair. She is great fun to hang out and drink with. She has an absolutely gorgeous body. Big butt and tight as a drum. Her skin is so smooth just touching it will give you an instant hard on. She knows she is hot and will not go with you for anything less than 2500 ST. I played with her on one of the nights I was there in mid-August. Definitely worth every peso. 2500 ST in LA cafe?
R you kidding?
I never paid more than 1000 pesos for the night there.
Cunning Stunt
10-02-08, 03:01
LA Cafe rocks. On a good night it bears an uncanny resemblance to the Mos Eisley Cantina especially as some of the girls look a little like dangerous aliens. LA Cafe allows the droids in though:). A better comparison might be made to the old Thermae Coffeeshop (when it was still an all night venue) in Sukhumvit. As those older globe trotting mongers who remember 80's and 90's Bangkok will know, the Thermae was its clubhouse and in its hallowed precincts (entry through the toilets and all) you were likely to encounter some outrageously eccentric and unusual personalities of all 3 genders.
But like the Thermae, the LA can tend to get too crowded and hence the AC and ventilation struggle to cope. Spend more than a couple of hours in there on a busy night and if you are a non-smoker, your lungs, the next day, will feel like you are on a 20 a day habit again.
Pwap - that girl was some doll (you have just got to Lyka ;)). Her mate didn't seem that bad. Guess you probably investigated the possibility of a 3sum? Sometimes when they won't be separated, you just have to bite the bullet and take both. Then you often find that the less attractive one is the better perfomer. GH
Cunning Stunt
10-02-08, 05:35
I have not come across many reports of picking up girls from local pinoy clubs. In August, I visited a few Filipino clubs in Paranaque city, near Lopez avenue. I was told by the mamasans that none of the Fiilpino clubs offer bar-fines. But you are allowed to exchange phone numbers with GRO's. Ladies drinks are P130 and the GRO will entertain you for 20 minutes. With 100P tips, you can touch the girl anywhere. I was able to do a girl for 500P couch upstairs. This is a cheaper choice compared to clubs at Burgos. I took the phone number of one of the GRO and do the girl during the daytime. The girl then becomes my girl friend. I think this is easier than searching in cherry blossoms or DIA site.
I also visited a few go-go bar type of local clubs, but the ladies drink are pretty steep - PHP390 per hour. usually, there will a few ugly girls dancing naked....not a pretty sight!
Cande Laria
Interested in your experiences in local style mongering. Filipino's are inveterate mongers and there are local style, GRO (local word for BG) manned bars, karaokes, cafes, disco's, clubs etc in virtually every area of Manila and all provincial cities. They are generally welcoming of foreigners (and their money) but quality varies enormously from old hags (as you saw dancing) to fresh meat straight off the bus. What was the names of the places you visited? Have to check them out myself :).
Soapy Smith
10-02-08, 05:56
As mentioned in my previous report, I love LA Cafe. I like the relaxed atmosphere of a normal bar with guaranteed pussy! Many of you LA Cafe regulars will no doubt know Marimar. The blonde ambition. I met her last year less the blond hair. She is great fun to hang out and drink with. She has an absolutely gorgeous body. Big butt and tight as a drum. Her skin is so smooth just touching it will give you an instant hard on. She knows she is hot and will not go with you for anything less than 2500 ST. I played with her on one of the nights I was there in mid-August. Definitely worth every peso.
Damn you, Pwap. I've been gone six weeks and just starting to recover from my post-Philippines depression, and you have to go show us these pictures of familiar faces, familiar backdrop -- and, of course, the ever-present haze of second hand smoke. I hope somebody messes with your head the same way soon after you leave.
Okay, all joking aside, I admit there's this anticipatory arousal that occurs when you're around the LA Cafe girls -- them working on you, you working on them. The more aggressive among them are looking to rub up against your crotch, rub their crotches along your leg, or push one of their breasts against you -- accidentally on purpose, of course. For their part some guys go groping for pay dirt before they've struck a deal, but my style is to work my hand or fingers along the bare arms, with special attention to the inside of the wrist and then the inside of the crook of the elbow.Then up behind the back of the neck, behind the ears, across the bare skin of the lower back when the blouse pulls away from the pants in back. Then later down to the inside of the knee. I fool myself into thinking this arouses them. In truth it probably just arouses me and signals to them that they're overcoming any resistance I may have shown earlier.
So your photos here are erotic in their own way, a way that even G's missionary in flagrante photos can't match. Thanks for the memories.
2500 ST in LA cafe?
R you kidding?
I never paid more than 1000 pesos for the night there.PB,
Good for you! I read some of your previous posts and seems like you are very frugal. The issue of money or lack thereof seems like the main theme of many of your posts. I really like to see some pictures of the girls you paid basement prices for. I’m just curious as to how they look. The price issues on the P4P scene have been debated on this forum ad nauseam. I know the going rate at LA Café: 1000-1500 ST / 1500-2000LT (+/- 500). I definitely use this unofficial rate chart for reference and stick to it for most part. However, some girls can demand and get more than the going rate. It's an open market and the girls who are young (18-21) and whose looks are superior that of her competitors can get more money if they are savvy to what the market will bear, and on the flip side, mongers on a budget can get pussy on baseline prices.
I don't go to places like LA Cafe with the thought that I will try to spend as little money as possible for pussy. I’m sure I can do this, but my thoughts are more in line with hooking up with a pleasant, pretty, young girl with a nice attitude and compensate her based on the going rate and level of her service. Having said this, I will not give your average girl at LA Café 2500ST, but rather the standard prices of 1000-1500. I don’t want to overpay but at the same time I don’t want to lowball these girls either. Then, there are exceptions where the girl is extraordinary, and I won’t lose any sleep paying a little above the normal rate.
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Cunning Stunt
10-03-08, 05:08
Okay, all joking aside, I admit there's this anticipatory arousal that occurs when you're around the LA Cafe girls -- them working on you, you working on them. The more aggressive among them are looking to rub up against your crotch, rub their crotches along your leg, or push one of their breasts against you -- accidentally on purpose, of course. For their part some guys go groping for pay dirt before they've struck a deal, but my style is to work my hand or fingers along the bare arms, with special attention to the inside of the wrist and then the inside of the crook of the elbow.Then up behind the back of the neck, behind the ears, across the bare skin of the lower back when the blouse pulls away from the pants in back. Then later down to the inside of the knee. I fool myself into thinking this arouses them. In truth it probably just arouses me and signals to them that they're overcoming any resistance I may have shown earlier.
Like to wager that you wrote that with a tumescence in your trousers, Skip. What are you in real life - a proofreader for Mills & Boone :D? GH
Key Master
10-03-08, 06:41
2500 ST in LA cafe?
R you kidding?
I never paid more than 1000 pesos for the night there.
Following up, where did you find your love for the night downstairs or upstairs and if so what side of the upstairs? I have been around the freelance scene in multiple countries, and I am pretty sure that 1000 long time is possible at LA Cafe probably only with some of the women downstairs and not likely for most of the women that pay to go upstairs, unless for some reason it's real late and they are desperate. I know people say it's this and this price there, I kind of agree with Pwap007 on the going rates he mentioned below. I don't usually find much downstairs that I want and try to hook up with more of the women that go upstairs which can be a challenge with some of the hotter ones being more Japanese and Korean oriented.
PB,
Good for you! I read some of your previous posts and seems like you are very frugal. The issue of money or lack thereof seems like the main theme of many of your posts. I really like to see some pictures of the girls you paid basement prices for. I’m just curious as to how they look. The price issues on the P4P scene have been debated on this forum ad nauseam. I know the going rate at LA Café: 1000-1500 ST / 1500-2000LT (+/- 500). I definitely use this unofficial rate chart for reference and stick to it for most part. However, some girls can demand and get more than the going rate. It's an open market and the girls who are young (18-21) and whose looks are superior that of her competitors can get more money if they are savvy to what the market will bear, and on the flip side, mongers on a budget can get pussy on baseline prices.
I don't go to places like LA Cafe with the thought that I will try to spend as little money as possible for pussy. I’m sure I can do this, but my thoughts are more in line with hooking up with a pleasant, pretty, young girl with a nice attitude and compensate her based on the going rate and level of her service. Having said this, I will not give your average girl at LA Café 2500ST, but rather the standard prices of 1000-1500. I don’t want to overpay but at the same time I don’t want to lowball these girls either. Then, there are exceptions where the girl is extraordinary, and I won’t lose any sleep paying a little above the normal rate.
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I agree with you and Key Master, while you can get some girls for 1000p ST, they are lower tier and not like Maricar from your pic. She can easily get 2500p. I guess everybody has different taste and your floor could be somebody's ceiling as far as looks are concerned. :)
Key Master
10-03-08, 14:09
I agree with you and Key Master, while you can get some girls for 1000p ST, they are lower tier and not like Maricar from your pic. She can easily get 2500p. I guess everybody has different taste and your floor could be somebody's ceiling as far as looks are concerned. :)
I guess it all depends on the person. There are lots of women who will go for 1000 or somewhere around there for ST, but the long time is another issue. In regards to Maricar, I wouldn't pay 2500 ST for her, but that's me. I think that's too much myself but that is relative to LA Cafe. Everybody is going to have a different take. My main reason for posting about this originally is that I don't think the going rate for long time is 1000 pesos in LA Cafe. I'm not saying it's not there because I'm sure it is with a lot of what's available downstairs at night. It might even be possible with some of the women who frequent upstairs that probably shouldn't be paying the extra 100-150 pesos a night to do so. It's just that I believe it's more on a case by case basis and time related.
I have not come across many reports of picking up girls from local pinoy clubs. In August, I visited a few Filipino clubs in Paranaque city, near Lopez avenue. I was told by the mamasans that none of the Fiilpino clubs offer bar-fines. But you are allowed to exchange phone numbers with GRO's. Ladies drinks are P130 and the GRO will entertain you for 20 minutes. With 100P tips, you can touch the girl anywhere. I was able to do a girl for 500P couch upstairs.
Cande LariaHi Cande,
Can you give us anymore info as to the location or names of these places? They sound good and I would like to go there?
Would someone be so kind as to give exact directions to L A Café? Preferrably from the LRT. What LRT stop do you get off at, and then exactly how do you get to L A Café?
FreebieFan
10-04-08, 06:44
Recent reports state about cheapness of local bars particularly in Paranaque. I'm assuming that these are the bars that are actually in Baclaran, close to domestic airport and Roxas boulevard. They include Ms World, Ms Saigon and whole host of others.
They are what my filipina described as being "puk puk bars. Yuo get the meaning I'm sure.
Every now and again driving thru there I see the odd random white guy (usually looks like a Vietnam war relic. Old and aged and bearded). And think these guys stay at the hotel near the corner of Roxas blvd. Clarion or some such name. The bars. Well they are cheap and nasty. Plastic chairs and girls doing a 3 dance show. They are available. But you need to know these are well used girls and you get what you pay for. Recommended to go with a guide (Filipino) as the area isn't the vest area at night. Take a car too as not much transport there. And whatever you do, don't stare at the locals. You are seriously on their turf in this area and they monger there all the time. Your just an interested tourist. Expect to be ripped off for drinks. And have a good time.
Street address: 1429 MH Del Pilar St. Ermita. Corner MH Del Pilar St. and R. Salas St. Phone: 02 526 7592. Easiest way for taxi, is going up the one way Mabini St. to R. Salas, turn left, go one block to MH Del Pilar.
All taxis, jeepneys, know where Robinson's Ermita is, and LA Cafe is about 3 blocks from there. Street names (except famous ones) don't mean much to the Filipinos.
Key Master
10-04-08, 07:46
Would someone be so kind as to give exact directions to L A Café? Preferrably from the LRT. What LRT stop do you get off at, and then exactly how do you get to L A Café?
What is LRT? Why not just take a taxi there?
Cunning Stunt
10-04-08, 07:56
What is LRT? Why not just take a taxi there?
Light Rail Transit. Take the train to Pedro Gil station then walk down P Gil 500 yards passing Robinsons Mall on the right and crossing Adriatico and Mabini. The intersection after Mabini is Del Pilar. Turn right, cross the road and you will see LA Cafe about 200 yards down on the left. Have fun.
I'll be there for the 1st time Monday night so I don't have too many other details. Hopefully a successful TR to follow. ;)
Reef
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Would someone be so kind as to give exact directions to L A Café? Preferrably from the LRT. What LRT stop do you get off at, and then exactly how do you get to L A Café?
What is LRT? Why not just take a taxi there?
I think we have a cheap charlie on our hands...
I've done the LRT (and the MRT) a couple of times. Don't use it during rush hour; it is that crowded. I had no pickpocket problems, but I can see that one has be quite watchful of this. Much better to use taxis as most anything worth getting to is going to be some distance away from the LRT.
Its been a few years but there used to be about 30 "local" bars on airport road. No barfines, but you should be able to set something up for later or the next day.
Does Ruds Bar (on Roxas, near Airport Rd) still exist? Does anyone know?
X
Hi Cande,
Can you give us anymore info as to the location or names of these places? They sound good and I would like to go there?
Candelaria
10-04-08, 19:35
The bars are located at Lopez, Paranaque along Sucat Road toward the airport. It is just behind, Jollibee, Lopez avenue. There are about 10 bars there, but they look pretty run down, as these are patronized by locals. If you take a cab, tell him you want to get off, at Jollibee Lopez. Walk behind there are many clubs there. Also, if you walk along Sucat Road, (east bound, 2 minutes after Jollibee), you will find 3 local go-go bars. HOWever, no barfines. The go-go bars have naked shows.
have fun!
Cande Laria
Blow me, Finrod. “Cheap Charlie” !
Do you know how long it takes to get from the Shangri-La in Makati to where the L A Café is located by taxi? Try at least 30-45 minutes! It is way faster via MRT and LRT. Plus, if you are a true adventurer, and you love the ambiance of “the chase” in the 3rd world …… you must take the Manila metro system. True, it is crowded, congested, and a bit of a pain-in-the-ass (hmmm, literally!) but you really need the cultural experience. Besides, I define the Manila metro as just like having sex standing up … you just don’t get to pick your partner!
However, now that I know the location of the L A Café, it really is best to take a cab and not worth the hassle of the metro!
Soapy Smith
10-05-08, 05:28
Do you know how long it takes to get from the Shangri-La in Makati to where the L A Café is located by taxi? Try at least 30-45 minutes! It is way faster via MRT and LRT. Plus, if you are a true adventurer, and you love the ambiance of “the chase” in the 3rd world …… you must take the Manila metro system. True, it is crowded, congested, and a bit of a pain-in-the-ass (hmmm, literally!) but you really need the cultural experience. Besides, I define the Manila metro as just like having sex standing up … you just don’t get to pick your partner!
I have ridden both LRT lines and the MRT line numerous times. I too commend it as an interesting cultural experience. And although you can do this rail trip for about 24 or 25 pesos, I do not think a person can travel from the Shangri-La to LA Cafe using the rail lines more quickly than by taxi. First, the walk from Shangri-La to the Ayala station on MRT (behind SM) takes easily 10 minutes or more, even if you know exactly where you're going. There's a similar short walk to connect between the MRT and LRT 1. G has described getting off the LRT at Pedro Gil and then walking to LA. This walk is easily 10 minutes or more. Add to this a long wait at Ayala Station (one line to buy the fare card, a second one in the queue to get through the turnstile, and a third to get onto a a car -- sometimes waiting as two or three packed trains stop and nobody can get on.) So the travel time from Shangri-La to LA via rail could easily add up to nearly an hour.
That having been said, one of the Manila newspapers did a set of experiments in August in which their staff went out in teams to travel between various points in the Metro Manila area. For the four or five trips they attempted, the light rail teams typically had travel times that were about half the time consumed by taxi teams. Those taking private autos took even longer than the taxi teams, and jeepneys had the longest travel times of all. So the idea of saving time by using light rail is, for many trips around the metro area, right on the mark. But I think this Shangri-La to LA Cafe trip is not one of them.
I have used various combinations of LRT and MRT to get from different points in Quezon City to the LA Cafe and to businesses in Ortigas, Makati, and elsewhere on numerous occasions. I saved a lot of travel time this way, and I have never been ripped off in crowded spaces, but the decision to take rail rather than taxi always involves some calculation as to walking distance and time of day (avoiding weekday rush hour). I have been warned by locals about where and how to avoid pickpockets and pack snatchers. I usually carry a small backpack/book pack and carry in it all the clothes, toiletries, etc. that I need for a hotel overnight in Ermita. When I get into crowded spaces on the LRT I switch it around to the front of my body and cross my arms around it. So travel on the trains is doable and, yes, an interesting experience.
This mode of travel is probably only viable for those who will be staying in the area for an extended period, because there's a definite learning curve in learning to do it. I do not see how calling somebody a "cheap Charlie" for considering travel by light rail is a contribution to the forum, especially since rail really is the fastest mode of travel in many parts of Manila.
Cunning Stunt
10-05-08, 06:03
This mode of travel is probably only viable for those who will to be staying in the area for an extended period, because there's a definite learning curve in learning to do it. I do not see how calling somebody a "cheap Charlie" for considering travel by light rail is a contribution to the forum, especially since rail really is the fastest mode of travel in many parts of Manila.
I agree - rather than being a Cheap Charlie, I think Noguera is being eminently sensible. I have clocked the trip from my condo near Makati to LA Cafe. A taxi at the time I usually go, will take about 60 to 90 minutes. By using a combination of jeepney (for the short trip to Guadalupe), then metrostar, LRT and shanks pony, I can be at the LA Cafe in 40-45 minutes. Makes sense and you can avoid the usual annoying shit fight over the fare with the cabbie. Of course the return trip is always by taxi. GH
GoodEnough
10-05-08, 12:26
I agree - rather than being a Cheap Charlie, I think Noguera is being eminently sensible. I have clocked the trip from my condo near Makati to LA Cafe. A taxi at the time I usually go, will take about 60 to 90 minutes. By using a combination of jeepney (for the short trip to Guadalupe), then metrostar, LRT and shanks pony, I can be at the LA Cafe in 40-45 minutes. Makes sense and you can avoid the usual annoying shit fight over the fare with the cabbie. Of course the return trip is always by taxi. GH
I don't know what time you guys normally go, but I normally leave the Dusit between 8:30 and 9 PM and I make the trip by taxi in 30-40 minutes almost every time. Even if I lived in Manila, I doubt I would ever take my own car since there's so little parking anywhere near the place.
GE
OK I suppose I can take the cheap charlie comment back, but I still maintain it's better to take taxi if your start point and/or destination are not close to the train.
My story: the day I picked up my passport at the Intramuros BI office (visa extension), I thought I would be adventurous and take the LRT and MRT back to Makati Burgos St where I was staying. With the walk to the nearest station (about 15-20 minutes), queue up for tickets, queue up and wait 3 or 4 cars before getting on, changing between LRT and MRT and going through the same getting on process again, by the time I got to the Guadalupe station (the one closest to Burgos St), I did not want to walk anymore so I flagged a taxi for the remaining distance. The last walk would have been about 20 minutes. The whole thing took about as much time as just taking the taxi back.
To each his own...
Soapy Smith
10-05-08, 21:46
By using a combination of jeepney (for the short trip to Guadalupe), then metrostar, LRT and shanks pony, I can be at the LA Cafe in 40-45 minutes. Makes sense and you can avoid the usual annoying shit fight over the fare with the cabbie. Of course the return trip is always by taxi. GH
Let us know when you figure out the jeepney route from UN Avenue station to the front door of LA Cafe. Actually, I avoid the jeepneys because I don't speak much Tagalog, can't figure out the route names on the sides of the jeepneys, and don't care for the open air exhaust experience. Finrod's experience shows that there are start and finish locations that don't lend themselves to light rail. But there is also a sense of satisfaction in learning to travel like the locals, and the light rail lines are easy to learn.
In the near future the MRT line is supposed to be extended on the North side to connect to the Monumento terminal of LRT 1, and there's discussion about a fourth line from Cubao out to the Fairview area in northeast Quezon City. This is good news for somebody like me who often has business and lodging in Quezon City and seeks horizontal recreation in Ermita, but for most sex tourists this is probably irrelevant.
Cunning Stunt
10-06-08, 05:46
let us know when you figure out the jeepney route from un avenue station to the front door of la cafe.
that trip is easy skip but i wouldn't advise anyone to take jeepneys in the ermita area as there are always pickpocket gangs on the lookout for unsuspecting tourists. the area is rife with them. just not worth the risk.
how much tagalog do you need to use local transport? not a lot. just 'bayad ko' meaning 'i pay' and 'para' meaning 'stop'. that should do it. i may be a masochist but i actually enjoy traveling on public transport. it must be the close proximity of all those lovely young pinays. i have, on two memorable occasions, even 'trapped' on jeepneys. it is easy when you have some young lovelies body almost draped over you, to strike up casual conversation. and the girls who use jeepneys are the 'poor' girls, shopgirls, maids etc, who often would just love to meet wealthy foreigners. the next step up is fx's which involves an even tighter squeeze, but i have stopped using these, as, a couple of years ago, i suspect i caught whooping cough on one of them. too many people in an enclosed space.
you need a sense of adventure when using public transport but the rewards can often outweigh the discomforts. how many times have you got the cp numbers of a girl (that you later followed up with a successful outcome) when travelling in a taxi?
Notanocker
10-06-08, 12:46
May I point out to Skip Kost and others that you can avoid the sometimes long queues at stations on Manila's three rail lines (really almost 'overhead metros') by purchasing 100 peso multi-ride tickets and using them for about seven trips each.
This shortens journey times.
Recently I once again used the MRT and LRT lines and with one exception when there were annoying delays of 15 minutes (possibly due to a train ahead being defective, as we crawled between stations), the trains were vastly preferable to being stuck in traffic jams.
For 23.5 pesos (less than A$1 or US$1) I travelled from Pedro Gil station to EDSA station and changed to a 'van' - actually a glorified jeepney) and was at SM Mall of Asia in a total journey time of about 25 minutes. The fares were: rail 15 pesos, 'van' 8.5 pesos and I got there quicker than a taxi, at far less cost and far less stress.
Of course you will have to stand on most LRT or MRT trips and most stations on all lines lack escalators or lifts, but to me these are minor discomforts.
Unfortunately as some point out the rail system does not cover all of Manila - but where it does, it beats taxis and jeepneys hands down, not to mention hiring a car or driving your own.
No wonder patronage on Manila's rail system has soared in the past year, with one of the three lines (the EDSA line from Taft to North EDSA) carrying 450,000 trips a day, despite a design capacity of only 250,000).
Let's hope the Monumento to Baclaran line is extended to the airport: Manila needs it.
that trip is easy skip but i wouldn't advise anyone to take jeepneys in the ermita area as there are always pickpocket gangs on the lookout for unsuspecting tourists. the area is rife with them. just not worth the risk.
how much tagalog do you need to use local transport? not a lot. just 'bayad ko' meaning 'i pay' and 'para' meaning 'stop'. that should do it. i may be a masochist but i actually enjoy traveling on public transport. it must be the close proximity of all those lovely young pinays. i have, on two memorable occasions, even 'trapped' on jeepneys. it is easy when you have some young lovelies body almost draped over you, to strike up casual conversation. and the girls who use jeepneys are the 'poor' girls, shopgirls, maids etc, who often would just love to meet wealthy foreigners. the next step up is fx's which involves an even tighter squeeze, but i have stopped using these, as, a couple of years ago, i suspect i caught whooping cough on one of them. too many people in an enclosed space.
you need a sense of adventure when using public transport but the rewards can often outweigh the discomforts. how many times have you got the cp numbers of a girl (that you later followed up with a successful outcome) when travelling in a taxi?
i grew up destitute in one america most notorious cities that being said i don’t want to ever subject myself to those living conditions again. i refuse to ride public transportation in america i am damn sure not going to do it in the philippines. taxis are my only mode of travel. i have heard all type of shit guys carrying ice picks, guns, etc … on jeepneys. sorry for going against the grain i do not find it appealing for a bunch of sweaty whether male or female filipinos to be smashed up against my posh gucci shirts, air force one nike sneakers etc…. the condensation of bad breath, sweat, smog and the heat fucking disgusting.
i dread the day if i ever i catch someone trying to go in my pockets. its not that i am afraid of them. i don’t want to end up in prison in a third world country it would put my mom in an early grave….
Candelaria
10-06-08, 20:19
I grew up destitute in one America most notorious cities that being said I don’t want to ever subject myself to those living conditions again. I refuse to ride public transportation in America I am damn sure not going to do it in the Philippines. Taxis are my only mode of travel. I have heard all type of shit guys carrying ice picks, guns, etc … on Jeepneys. Sorry for going against the grain I do not find it appealing for a bunch of sweaty whether male or female Filipinos to be smashed up against my posh Gucci shirts, Air Force One Nike Sneakers etc…. The condensation of bad breath, sweat, smog and the heat fucking disgusting.
I dread the day if I ever I catch someone trying to go in my pockets. Its not that I am afraid of them. I don’t want to end up in prison in a third world country it would put my mom in an early grave….I think enough is being said about this topic - this subject is now closed. Period.
Let's get back to talking about mongering, shall we?
Cande Laria
FreebieFan
10-07-08, 05:14
Ok. Had me a gret weekend a few weeks back (see trip report in Makati). But that board is super quiet so am asking my question here.
My "girl" will not say no to anything (shes a normal gal in need of orgasm LOL) so we started with normal sex, let me shave her, then she got her schoolgirl outfit, then the suspender belt, then she was happy if I tied her up. This was all in past two meetings, and am planning the next trip and not sure what to do next thats interesting and stimulating. I mean the sight of her tied up in schoolgirl outfit with panties round her ankles was damned stimulating.
Thought of us gettting a joint massage wih two ladies who may or may not get naked, and maybe having her naked under her skirt and having her flash me in a mall etc. But beyond that the creative juices are dry.
She doesnt want a 3 some but am thinking of having her blindfold and having a lady come in a lick her, but any great suggestions for good sex games would be well appreciated!
Cunning Stunt
10-07-08, 07:18
I grew up destitute in one America most notorious cities that being said I don’t want to ever subject myself to those living conditions again. I refuse to ride public transportation in America I am damn sure not going to do it in the Philippines. Taxis are my only mode of travel. I have heard all type of shit guys carrying ice picks, guns, etc … on Jeepneys. Sorry for going against the grain I do not find it appealing for a bunch of sweaty whether male or female Filipinos to be smashed up against my posh Gucci shirts, Air Force One Nike Sneakers etc…. The condensation of bad breath, sweat, smog and the heat fucking disgusting.
I dread the day if I ever I catch someone trying to go in my pockets. Its not that I am afraid of them. I don’t want to end up in prison in a third world country it would put my mom in an early grave….
You'll have us believe you can lay eggs next, Daddy ;). From a guy of your obvious mettle, I would have expected a little more sense of adventure. The danger factor is half the fun; a maxim that I also follow in my mongering esapades :D. GH
Soapy Smith
10-07-08, 07:19
May I point out to Skip Kost and others that you can avoid the sometimes long queues at stations on Manila's three rail lines (really almost 'overhead metros') by purchasing 100 peso multi-ride tickets and using them for about seven trips each.
Recently I once again used the MRT and LRT lines and with one exception when there were annoying delays of 15 minutes (possibly due to a train ahead being defective, as we crawled between stations), the trains were vastly preferable to being stuck in traffic jams.
For 23.5 pesos (less than A$1 or US$1) I travelled from Pedro Gil station to EDSA station and changed to a 'van' - actually a glorified jeepney) and was at SM Mall of Asia in a total journey time of about 25 minutes. The fares were: rail 15 pesos, 'van' 8.5 pesos and I got there quicker than a taxi, at far less cost and far less stress.
No wonder patronage on Manila's rail system has soared in the past year, with one of the three lines (the EDSA line from Taft to North EDSA) carrying 450,000 trips a day, despite a design capacity of only 250,000).
Let's hope the Monumento to Baclaran line is extended to the airport: Manila needs it.
Sounds like an endorsement to me. The 100 peso card is a great idea for somebody who will be around long enough to use it. I assume the rising cost of gasoline has had an influence on the soaring use of the rail lines. Extending LRT to the airport might be wishful thinking for a couple of reasons. First, cab and jeepney drivers have well organized associations, and they will definitely lobby against any initiative that cuts into their livelihood. Second, the light rail trains do not permit luggage larger than small backpacks on board, so the LRT wouldn't be any help to air travelers carrying any substantial luggage. If they'd extend it down into Paranaque City near Air Force One, on the other hand, that would be a significant contribution. We could also hope they'd extend the MRT westward all the way to Mall of Asia to save you that van ride, but that kind of project, just like an airport extension, requires a lot of greasing of the right hands. Always a crap shoot in the Philippines.
Soapy Smith
10-07-08, 07:37
how much tagalog do you need to use local transport? not a lot. just 'bayad ko' meaning 'i pay' and 'para' meaning 'stop'. that should do it. i may be a masochist but i actually enjoy traveling on public transport. it must be the close proximity of all those lovely young pinays. i have, on two memorable occasions, even 'trapped' on jeepneys. it is easy when you have some young lovelies body almost draped over you, to strike up casual conversation. and the girls who use jeepneys are the 'poor' girls, shopgirls, maids etc, who often would just love to meet wealthy foreigners.
i always used "bayad po," assuming i was saying "pay please," since it invariably involved passing money up through the hands of other passengers. and a knock of the knuckles on the jeepney ceiling seems to imply the same message as "para." but the drivers' questions about how many passengers you're paying for always hung me up. most of my jeepney riding has been done in quezon city along quezon ave., commonwealth, and katipunan ave. there the lovelies are likely to be coeds from up, ateneo, or miriam college. those women have real prospects in life, and although they smell nice, the only action there for an old man like me is when i get a little thigh to thigh contact when the jeepney is packed. not much of a rush to fill my tired memory banks when i get too old to get it up any more.
And the girls who use jeepneys are the 'poor' girls, shopgirls, maids etc, who often would just love to meet wealthy foreigners.
Hmmm.. I don't think Filipinas will think you are wealthy if you are on a jeepney.
You'll have us believe you can lay eggs next, Daddy ;). From a guy of your obvious mettle, I would have expected a little more sense of adventure. The danger factor is half the fun; a maxim that I also follow in my mongering esapades :D. GH
Lay eggs...? What the hell does that mean GH you think I am bullshitting you about something? If so what?
You want to talk about adventure or trade war stories. I have a lot of photos from the place where I got my moniker Afghanistan. A friendly country where local men believe men can fly on magic carpets and they have big guns in which they love to use on people like me and you.
When I am there in PI I am at home. I like to be comfortable and relax. If sitting in traffic on a crowed Jeepney in a third world country is your idea of a good time great. We simply have different taste. :D
Cunning Stunt
10-07-08, 08:14
I always used "Bayad po," assuming I was saying "pay please," since it invariably involved passing money up through the hands of other passengers. And a knock of the knuckles on the jeepney ceiling seems to imply the same message as "para." But the drivers' questions about how many passengers you're paying for always hung me up. Most of my jeepney riding has been done in Quezon City along Quezon Ave., Commonwealth, and Katipunan Ave. There the lovelies are likely to be coeds from UP, Ateneo, or Miriam College. Those women have real prospects in life, and although they smell nice, the only action there for an old man like me is when I get a little thigh to thigh contact when the jeepney is packed. Not much of a rush to fill my tired memory banks when I get too old to get it up any more.
Isa(ng), Dalawa(ng), Tatlo(ng), Apat etc - haven't you learned to count in tagalog yet. Shame on you - how long have you been here :)? So it would go something like Dalawang Bayad Ko (or Po, if you like) - I pay twice.
You are also severely curtailing your imaginative thought processes, if you think that just because they are at an expensive college that they are not in dire need of extra funding. OK they are mostly rich kids at UP and Ataneo, but girls at lesser colleges are often struggling to pay their tuition fee's and wouldn't all say no to a little extra curricular activity with financial assistance to help with meeting the upcoming bills. As a poster on another thread here suggested, colleges can be a rich hunting ground for FL's. I read a newspaper article once in a local rag (wish I'd kept it), that reported that a fair percentage of college girls turned to part time prostitution to help pay tuition fees. It even named one girls only college in Taft Ave, Manila (can you guess the one?) where students actually openly touted for custom outside the campus premises. Now most of this is a local scene but I imagine some might be game to go with foreigners considering the higher rewards. So the 'hoity toity' college that you are rubbing thighs with on the jeepney, might, unbeknown to you, be eying you up as a potential sugar daddy, and would be prepared to rub more than your thigh:D.
Cunning Stunt
10-07-08, 08:27
Lay eggs...? What the hell does that mean GH you think I am bullshitting you about something? If so what?
You want to talk about adventure or trade war stories. I have a lot of photos from the place where I got my moniker Afghanistan. A friendly country where local men believe men can fly on magic carpets and they have big guns in which they love to use on people like me and you.
When I am there in PI I am at home. I like to be comfortable and relax. If sitting in traffic on a crowed Jeepney in a third world country is your idea of a good time great. We simply have different taste. :D
Come on Daddy, bit slow today.. lay eggs, cluck, cluck ... chicken ... get it? No need to go all intense on me as I'm only kidding with you. Don't you go all 'drama queen' on us like some other members whose name I dare not mention:D.
Some people like to immerse themselves in the local culture whilst others like to keep it at arms length. There is nothing wrong in either attitude. Bet you wouldn't be seen dead in Baclaran or Divisoria Market, whereas I just love the local color and atmosphere (and the banter with the locals). GH
Cunning Stunt
10-07-08, 09:14
You want to talk about adventure or trade war stories. I have a lot of photos from the place where I got my moniker Afghanistan. A friendly country where local men believe men can fly on magic carpets and they have big guns in which they love to use on people like me and you.
BTW - good to know your audience before you start spouting 'war stories' shit. I'm a time served squaddie who fought in both the Falklands War (before you were born?) and the first gulf war.
Sorry - cranky today - lying abed with a tummy bug and watching the world economy go down the toilet with a fair chunk of my wad. Happy days :D. GH
The following are observations based on my first trip to Manila. Frequent visitors to Manila will find nothing new here. These are simply things that I found different or interesting as a first timer:
Traffic in Manila can be horrendous...especially during rush hour. Progress comes to a crawl. Cars constantly change lanes or create their own where none existed. Everyone tailgates even in heavy rain. Cars squeze through tight spaces routinely.
Taxi fares are incredibly cheap. Airport to City Garden Makati was 248 pesos.
If a driver quotes you a fixed price, you can bet the meter would be onehalf that. Ask for the meter before you get in. It starts at 30 pesos...not 90. Using the meter is no guarantee you will be taken in the most direct manner. If you use the taxis more than once, you're going to find youself being taken down what appears to be some very small and unsafe back streets...repeatedly. You'll never know where you are or whether you're being "taken for a ride". Just try to relax. The difference between 100 and 200 pdp is only $2.20 US. If you're concerned about paying only the metered fee, you had better have the exact change because the driver wont.
LA Cafe to City Garden Makati is 105 pesos on the meter. If you've found a lady there and are going home for the night, the driver will say "only 300p". Ask for meter before you get in.
Small children and women with babies in arms will come up to your taxi window asking for money. Your driver will ask you to lock the door or reach back and do it himself.
Small children in the street will ask for money. Women sitting on the sidewalk holding small sleeping children will ask for pesos.
Pistol carrying guards are at the entrance doors of a lot of establishments...from Starbucks to 7-11.
Shotgun toting Guards are at bank entrances...sometimes multiple men. An armored car delivery to a bank brings out about 6 shotgun toting guards.
Malls and major stores have personel to search bags for explosive devices.
Department stores like Robinsons's are already playing Christmas music on Sept 29th. Christmas lighting is going up in the neighborhoods by about the same time.
The Hyatt Casino security staff will frown if your date is wearing flip flops. They will ask you to check your camera with them. There's a good chance that your DIA date will have never been in a casino and will be curious about the whole thing. Show her around.
Philippine time is not American time. If you agree to meet someone at 2:pm, chances are they might arrive at 3:pm (due to traffic they say)
If you stockpile cialis and viagra at home, don't forget to bring it.
Cialis and Viagra pushers on Burgos are very persistent and will follow you to make a sale. Likewise ladies will come up to you and latch onto your arm.
You can buy Cialis or Viagra on the street. They ask 500 pesos for one pack of Cialis. Perhaps it's available more cheaply. They will always drop their first price when you walk away.
Five packs of Cialis from the Mercury Pharmacy require a prescription and cost 7500 pesos. (ten tabs)
You can see a doctor at Makati Medical Center for 300 pesos (short walk from City Garden) for a prescription. It takes 15 minutes from walking in to walking out at 5:30pm. Amazingly quick with a bp reading and an actual chat with the doc.
If you want walking directions to a particular place, ask multiple people along the way and you'll get different answers. Try to get a consensus.
If you ask walking directions from a policeman or traffic officer, don't accept his offer to drive you there. Especially when the second officer hops into the back seat and things get vague about compensation.
Seventy percent of my p4p DIA dates had no interest in using a condom. But I always do.
I agree with another poster that the DIA girls like to maintain the illusion in both parties minds that there's a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship going on...not p4p.
A GFE experience here is easier to find than in Thailand.
Bangkok is a way more interesting and exciting city than Manila. But the filipina gfe is more abundant and cheaper.
Makati might be safer (City Garden Hotel area) but I'm looking forward to my time in Ermita, which seems much more colorful...and edgy.
LA Cafe had 40 ladies in the main bar at 11am on a Monday, great bands in the evening and packed with women. My fav venue. 2000p to 4000 all night depending on circumstances.
Ocean Park's admission is 400 pesos...expensive by your dates' standards...a so-so aquarium which is a relaxing way to spend some time.
Super seafood restaurant next door with eating on a narrow pier over the water. Highly recommend. Don't rememeber the name, but it's the closest one to Ocean Park.
Ask your date to show you Rizal Park and Intrumuros. You can kill many hours there.
I met three DIA women who were actually straight and looking for husbands. They were very very hospitible in showing me around, talking about the Philippine culture, and in general showing me a good time without sex. Treat them well with a nice meal, perhaps a present, and real understanding. You might be the first foreigner they've actually met and they are enjoying the experience as much as you.
Ocean Park's admission is 400 pesos. Expensive by your dates' standards. A so-so aquarium which is a relaxing way to spend some time.
Super seafood restaurant next door with eating on a narrow pier over the water. Highly recommend. Don't rememeber the name, but it's the closest one to Ocean Park.
Ask your date to show you Rizal Park and Intrumuros. You can kill many hours there.
I met three DIA women who were actually straight and looking for husbands. They were very very hospitible in showing me around, talking about the Philippine culture, and in general showing me a good time without sex. Treat them well with a nice meal, perhaps a present, and real understanding. You might be the first foreigner they've actually met and they are enjoying the experience as much as you. The restaurant that you refer I believe is Harbourview Restaurant Rizal Park and has a web site. It is one of my very favourite restaurants in Asia and on all 3 occassions that I have been there my different dates have had a great time. The food and the setting are spectacular.
Thanks for your informative post. Maybe others might offer their opinion on their favourite dining experience in Manila.
P
Come on Daddy, bit slow today.. lay eggs, cluck, cluck ... chicken ... get it? No need to go all intense on me as I'm only kidding with you. Don't you go all 'drama queen' on us like some other members whose name I dare not mention:D.
Nah I wasn't getting intense. I just thought you were saying I was lying about something. "Laying a egg is not humanly possible." Didn't know you were calling me a pussy. That's even better....
BTW - good to know your audience before you start spouting 'war stories' shit. I'm a time served squaddie who fought in both the Falklands War (before you were born?) and the first gulf war.
That's cool. Not as cool as protecting American politicians, chasing Afghan drug dealers and burning poppy fields. :D
Cunning Stunt
10-07-08, 11:39
Department stores like Robinsons's are already playing Christmas music on Sept 29th. Christmas lighting is going up in the neighborhoods by about the same time.
Yup - guess where you are when you hear 'Jingle Bells' played at earsplitting volume, in the mall, in early October? Could only be the Philippines :D.
"Originally Posted by Gamahucher
Come on Daddy, bit slow today.. lay eggs, cluck, cluck ... chicken ... get it? No need to go all intense on me as I'm only kidding with you. Don't you go all 'drama queen' on us like some other members whose name I dare not mention.
Nah I wasn't getting intense. I just thought you were saying I was lying about something. "Laying a egg is not humanly possible." Didn't know you were calling me a pussy. That's even better."
This reminds me of one of Churchill's comments (talking about the differences between the UK and USA).. two great nations separated by the same language...
As an Aussie thought I'd just drop that in.
P
Dan Hawaii
10-07-08, 12:19
Sorry for posting such an old post, I don't know how I missed this one, and I have not checked ISG for some months. I just wanted to set things straight.
So much misinformation in his posts I do not know where to begin so let's start with this whopper:
1. "Not much to report in Cebu, as I would not return, it is kind of Ghetto compared to Manila."
I am so dumbfounded that I do not know what to say except you are the first person EVER to make a comment like that.
It's just an opinion that my 5 other friends and I had about Cebu. Compared to Manila's Greenbelt area Global City/Fort area, it is pretty fucking ghetto. Sorry you got so offended.
2. Love City and Dimples and those places on the other side of Maxilom (AKA Mango) from Viking are fleece joints plain and simple. But then again, that seems to be the type of place you prefer in Manila too (East Asia and ANYTHING along the Roxas Strip, since Axions/visions went under, are infamous clip joints).
Dude, what's your point about these places? Yes, we like to party in cleaner more safer places. We don't mind spending alittle more to feel comfortable and safe. If you like partying with the locals to get cheap thrills, that's your perogative.
3. The EDSA mamasans charged you 1400 BF? I've heard of newbies getting hit for 1200 (I have never paid more than 1000 which is the "real" rate).
When was the last time you went to Edsa and got the 1000 barfine? Can anyone confirm this “real Rate” of 1000 barfine at this current moment.
4. Cebu has DOZENS of casas; you may have only found two but taht does not mean there are no others.
DOZENS of casas in only Cebu? You know a dozen means 12? So you are saying Cebu has more casas than the Mactan area or even Makati? GTFO of here!
5. The Mactan resort you describe was almost surely the Shangri La. Did you really pay $60 for a day pass? OMG.
It was not “surely” called the "Shangri La”, it’s called Plantation Bay Resort & Spa Mactan Cebu .. ."OMG"… We did not pay $60 for the all day pass, did I say we did? I just stated that it may be cheaper and better to just rent a room, than get the all day pass. Then you could maybe invite your guests for free?
6. At some times of year you can buy tickets at the last minute (although you will pay more usually). Try that on a holiday weekend, or ANYTIME in December or near Holy Week, and you will be grounded for sure.
Don’t you mean to say, “At some times of year you can NOT buy tickets at the last minute” Hmmm, is December, Holy week, and ALL HOLIDAYS the majority of the year? NO!!!
7. There are LOADS of short time motels about 15 minutes from the airport right near the EDSA Complex for under $10.
And what’s your point?
8. The PI is NOT Hawaii (Thank God!), but you are spending money like these girls were streetwalkers from Kealakua Ave in Waikiki! The average salary in the PI is under $100 per month.
Misinformation, it’s spelled “Kalakaua Avenue“…. More misinformation, streetwalkers from Waikiki costs well over $300 to $400 for ST-FS. If you wanted LT, damn, it’s gonna cost you 4 digits (over 1000 usd).
9. The airport is small and people get bags and clear customs within 30 minutes? Sounds like Cebu Mactan NOT NAIA! As to the terminal information, ALL PAL flights go from the Centennial Terminal (nobody calls it Terminal 2).
Are you talking about the post, when I went to AirForce 1 during my stopover? If you are, I did get out of the airport in 30 minutes, because I did not have to get my baggage, cause it was a stopover. Duh.
Nobody calls it Terminal 2? Okay bossman.
Wow, what an observant fellow.
Thanks for pretendig this is your first time.
The following are observations based on my first trip to Manila. Frequent visitors to Manila will find nothing new here. These are simply things that I found different or interesting as a first timer:
Traffic in Manila can be horrendous...especially during rush hour. Progress comes to a crawl. Cars constantly change lanes or create their own where none existed. Everyone tailgates even in heavy rain. Cars squeze through tight spaces routinely.
Taxi fares are incredibly cheap. Airport to City Garden Makati was 248 pesos.
If a driver quotes you a fixed price, you can bet the meter would be onehalf that. Ask for the meter before you get in. It starts at 30 pesos...not 90. Using the meter is no guarantee you will be taken in the most direct manner. If you use the taxis more than once, you're going to find youself being taken down what appears to be some very small and unsafe back streets...repeatedly. You'll never know where you are or whether you're being "taken for a ride". Just try to relax. The difference between 100 and 200 pdp is only $2.20 US. If you're concerned about paying only the metered fee, you had better have the exact change because the driver wont.
LA Cafe to City Garden Makati is 105 pesos on the meter. If you've found a lady there and are going home for the night, the driver will say "only 300p". Ask for meter before you get in.
Small children and women with babies in arms will come up to your taxi window asking for money. Your driver will ask you to lock the door or reach back and do it himself.
Small children in the street will ask for money. Women sitting on the sidewalk holding small sleeping children will ask for pesos.
Pistol carrying guards are at the entrance doors of a lot of establishments...from Starbucks to 7-11.
Shotgun toting Guards are at bank entrances...sometimes multiple men. An armored car delivery to a bank brings out about 6 shotgun toting guards.
Malls and major stores have personel to search bags for explosive devices.
Department stores like Robinsons's are already playing Christmas music on Sept 29th. Christmas lighting is going up in the neighborhoods by about the same time.
The Hyatt Casino security staff will frown if your date is wearing flip flops. They will ask you to check your camera with them. There's a good chance that your DIA date will have never been in a casino and will be curious about the whole thing. Show her around.
Philippine time is not American time. If you agree to meet someone at 2:pm, chances are they might arrive at 3:pm (due to traffic they say)
If you stockpile cialis and viagra at home, don't forget to bring it.
Cialis and Viagra pushers on Burgos are very persistent and will follow you to make a sale. Likewise ladies will come up to you and latch onto your arm.
You can buy Cialis or Viagra on the street. They ask 500 pesos for one pack of Cialis. Perhaps it's available more cheaply. They will always drop their first price when you walk away.
Five packs of Cialis from the Mercury Pharmacy require a prescription and cost 7500 pesos. (ten tabs)
You can see a doctor at Makati Medical Center for 300 pesos (short walk from City Garden) for a prescription. It takes 15 minutes from walking in to walking out at 5:30pm. Amazingly quick with a bp reading and an actual chat with the doc.
If you want walking directions to a particular place, ask multiple people along the way and you'll get different answers. Try to get a consensus.
If you ask walking directions from a policeman or traffic officer, don't accept his offer to drive you there. Especially when the second officer hops into the back seat and things get vague about compensation.
Seventy percent of my p4p DIA dates had no interest in using a condom. But I always do.
I agree with another poster that the DIA girls like to maintain the illusion in both parties minds that there's a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship going on...not p4p.
A GFE experience here is easier to find than in Thailand.
Bangkok is a way more interesting and exciting city than Manila. But the filipina gfe is more abundant and cheaper.
Makati might be safer (City Garden Hotel area) but I'm looking forward to my time in Ermita, which seems much more colorful...and edgy.
LA Cafe had 40 ladies in the main bar at 11am on a Monday, great bands in the evening and packed with women. My fav venue. 2000p to 4000 all night depending on circumstances.
Ocean Park's admission is 400 pesos...expensive by your dates' standards...a so-so aquarium which is a relaxing way to spend some time.
Super seafood restaurant next door with eating on a narrow pier over the water. Highly recommend. Don't rememeber the name, but it's the closest one to Ocean Park.
Ask your date to show you Rizal Park and Intrumuros. You can kill many hours there.
I met three DIA women who were actually straight and looking for husbands. They were very very hospitible in showing me around, talking about the Philippine culture, and in general showing me a good time without sex. Treat them well with a nice meal, perhaps a present, and real understanding. You might be the first foreigner they've actually met and they are enjoying the experience as much as you.
Redfield10
10-08-08, 01:59
Hi,
I know this isn't on the correct thread, but few people read the "Other areas" thread so I'm trying this. I hope Jackson indulges me for this once.
I'm taking a girl from Cebu City to Bohol and want to spend one night on Pangaloa Island and probably Alona Beach. I've never even been to the Phils so this is new.
I tried to book with Isis, but they are full (thanks for the suggestion, Xman). Does anyone have any other ideas for a place for Nov. 3 (one night) that is decent. Maybe $50 or $60 USD on Alona Beach.
I realize maybe it's a little late to book now, but it wasn't decided we'd go to Bohol until recently. Or, if I can't find anything. Is it possible to just go there and find something?
Thanks guys
Pussy Luver
10-08-08, 02:37
A buddy of mine wants me to stay at the Manila Hotel when we get to the land of LBRPFM. Anyone know if the place is girl friendly. Another friend told me the place is not overly excited or cooperative with guests bringing girls back to their rooms. Any feedback would be appreciated.
I was there last September. Stayed in bohol beach club. Nice place, very private IMHO, but is not located in alona. You can try Flower Beach Resort. Otherwise check this website www.bohol. Ph. Under general tab, go to business directory, it will show you the resorts. Hope this help.
Marconista
10-08-08, 10:41
My experience from repeat visits: TOTALLY Girl friendly!
A buddy of mine wants me to stay at the Manila Hotel when we get to the land of LBRPFM. Anyone know if the place is girl friendly. Another friend told me the place is not overly excited or cooperative with guests bringing girls back to their rooms. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Muutseeker
10-09-08, 10:56
Ok. Had me a gret weekend a few weeks back (see trip report in Makati). But that board is super quiet so am asking my question here.
My "girl" will not say no to anything (shes a normal gal in need of orgasm LOL) so we started with normal sex, let me shave her, then she got her schoolgirl outfit, then the suspender belt, then she was happy if I tied her up. This was all in past two meetings, and am planning the next trip and not sure what to do next thats interesting and stimulating. I mean the sight of her tied up in schoolgirl outfit with panties round her ankles was damned stimulating.
Thought of us gettting a joint massage wih two ladies who may or may not get naked, and maybe having her naked under her skirt and having her flash me in a mall etc. But beyond that the creative juices are dry.
She doesnt want a 3 some but am thinking of having her blindfold and having a lady come in a lick her, but any great suggestions for good sex games would be well appreciated!A couple of trips back I walked my girl naked through the lobby of a certain five star hotel save for an overcoat she had on. We then stopped for coffee in the lobby lounge and walked back through the lobby to the elevators and to my room. That she was excited when we closed the door would be an understatement.
The threesome thing has only ever worked out for me once and that was because the girls were into each other before I came on the scene. Very hard to find again. Well it has been for me.
Fruit, food and toys always work quite well as does smothering yourselves in oil and sliding around. Though it's best not to be in your room when housekeeping changes the sheets to avoid embarassment.
Enjoy. Just let your imagination run free. You will probably find your girl has some suggestions cause she will be thinking about it too!
FreebieFan
10-10-08, 01:13
Appreciate the idea. Yes the naked under a coat would work as tho shes a good shy girl she has this mantra that she won't say no to anything I suggest.
Did expose her boobs in a mall stairway but your idea is good.
There is of course the 8 inch dildo that she has yet to try altho she clearly loved the little G spot massager so much we had to runto 7-11 for fresh batteries.
We have done the chocolate sauce routine which was lots of fun.
Anyways you are right. She IS thinking about I know. And keeps forwarding me web sites. I think eating the banana out of her will happen.
Damn. Shall I concentrate on these happy thoughts or worry bout my rapidly declining investments? No contest!
Thanks for the idea.
I've lurked here now and then and have literally spent all night many times reading and enjoing the info. And stories on these threads (just Philippines) so thanks for all the contributors.
I went to cebu last year for the first time and enjoyed, although I mostly spent my time in the company of a girl I met online (cebuanas. I just emailed the hottest 15 or so I found there a few weeks before and chatted with them on I'm until the trip towarm them up. She and I clicked the best, tho I met with others too) so not too much mongering but I dabbled at many at the regular barfine spots in cebu and visited casa a couple of times and had an okay time with the girls I had from there. Speaking of casa (that's what it's called? ) it's kind of funny to go in there and have all these girls in a room sit around you and just look at you with their wide eyes patiently, some chatting you up. I went there a couple times really late when I was too lazy to try the gogos and just wanted something for sure and easy.
Anyway my father has a condo in Pasig City which I guess is technically in Metro Manila which I'll be staying on for much of my stay (though I'll venture to around the Visayas as well during my 3 week visit). In addition, my ceo for the company I work for here in New York has approved me to work remotely in the Philippines keeping my US salary (all I'll need is a computer and a phone) so this is an opportunity I don't want to pass up! I'm an american-born Filipino (mestiso looking from spanish great grandfather) so eligble for dual citizenship and should be moving there to Pasig in early 2009.
First things' first tho, want to enjoy the 3 week vaca. And women.
The girl I have kept in touch with and we tried to get her here to US (failure). She was pretty much top of the line model looks, and I wanted to do whatever I could, but the US is pretty draconian on not allowing anyone from PI that's not from a well to do situation come over. So she's now in Australia on a work visa there and I'm happy for her tho a bit bittersweet. Part of the complication with her was she was in a separated marital status as well.
At any rate, we keep in touch (I mean she's phsycially & mentally a 10 no reason not to) but there's also plenty of fish in the sea as well and I've kept in touch with plenty of others which I'll meet up with. (in manila and cebu as well as other areas)
I'll be delighted to report how my trip and stay goes. A question I had regarding mongering which I'll definately do was for the regular spots in Manila like LA Cafe and EDSA, will I have to worry about the distance to the condo in Pasig? The condo is near the Discovery Suites, I think also kinda near Megamall. Is that too far for girls to want to come back there for LT? I'll also be bringing one of the girls I'm meeting up with to Palawan for a couple days and would be interested in people's opinoins on resorts. I'm not looking for most expensive but still to impress.
Thanks for all and promise to reciprocate as much info. As I possibly can during and after trip as well.
FreebieFan
10-10-08, 05:39
Ok. I'm bored watching Singpore and HK stock markets fly down the flusher at a very fast rate so have been thinking about a young friends firest time anal.
Only had one bf before in her life and from what she tels me, tho he was white he was a straight in get the job done sort of guy.
Anyways me and my new friend hooked up and ended in Sogo in Pasay. Well at some ponit shes blowing me and I had (as often happens) positioned her so I could examine and manipulate her goodies. Incuding a little rub of her ass to see what her reaction was. She seemed to like. So one digit became two. All liked and nice reaction. From her blowing me she gave long long AR which I love.
From there. I made an attempt at pentration and tho she took it well. Clearly wasnt enjoying it. So withdrew.
Next meeting were both hot and steamy after earlier activiity and thought we might try again. This time I started things off with the little g spot vibrator in her ass and this clearly was getting her feeling goood. Then I dosed the said area nicely with baby oil. And had her under me lying flat. Meaning I'm basically pinning her to the bed. Well this time slid in well. Lucky she has a kinny ass and this clearly was a position that worked better for her.
Shes going. No. Yes. Ooooow. Oooooh thats nice. More. More more. And heck I'm just responding to her. After a few minutes shes obviously very comfortable with this. And is really enjoying. She told me she came a few times in the time I was in her ass and told me she REALLY enjoyed. And can we do THAT again.
Ok. Well I've probably lost a few more thousand in past few minutes but enjoyed the retelling of this gal first time assfuck.
Hairy Wonder
10-10-08, 10:54
In addition, my ceo for the company I work for here in New York has approved me to work remotely in the Philippines keeping my US salary (all I'll need is a computer and a phone) so this is an opportunity I don't want to pass up!
I'm so damned envious of you! That's the kind of deal I would love to find! An American based job in the Philippines, with the American (at least mostly tax free) salary would be great! What kind of work do you do? And what company do you work for? Are they hiring for anymore positions in the Philippines? :D
Good luck there and have fun!
HW
I'm so damned envious of you! That's the kind of deal I would love to find! An American based job in the Philippines, with the American (at least mostly tax free) salary would be great! What kind of work do you do? And what company do you work for? Are they hiring for anymore positions in the Philippines? :D
Good luck there and have fun!
HWThanks Hairy, the company I work for is a corporate events company. My job is to sell executives to join but I do it by email and phone anyway I can do it from the Philippines. I've been there 8 years and top performer so I told them I'm moving to Philippines and if they want to keep me will they let me go there and they agreed. But in this economy, no job is safe so I want to take advantage of this opportunity as soon as poosible! :D
So is Pasig City (condo is next to Discovery Suites) too far for girls to want to come home with you for LT or otherwise from any of the Manila mongering stomping grounds? Cheers all
FreebieFan
10-12-08, 03:35
Nowher is really tooo far for LT. Gals like to see inside a condo rather than always a hotel. Its always funny when yuor chatting with an experienced gal. She will tell you the difference in size the suites and regular rooms at all the major hotels and some condo blocks too.
If they likle you. They will go wheerver you go. As you have the money right.
Nowher is really tooo far for LT. Gals like to see inside a condo rather than always a hotel. Its always funny when yuor chatting with an experienced gal. She will tell you the difference in size the suites and regular rooms at all the major hotels and some condo blocks too.
If they likle you. They will go wheerver you go. As you have the money right.Thanks Freebie. Well one snag is there's no furniture in the condo yet so I'm not sure how impressed these girls will be haha. I'll buy a matress makeshift and a couple chairs for the vaca, then fully furnish after the official move.
Really appreciate. I'll look to reciprocate my experiences during and after.
Breven,
When are you going to be there? I’m probably going to be in the same area the last couple of weeks of Oct.
Like you I've been lurking here for quite awhile, this is my first post. I've been visiting the PI for about 4-5 years now, most of the time I've stayed in Ortigas (Pasig) at the Discovery Suites! It's actually my hotel of preference while in the area. Great location, pretty clean and safe (for the Phils), not beaggers or touts that I've noticed. Right across the street is the Podium mall, it's small but upscale, some decent places to eat there. Also with in walking distance are 3 other huge malls, SM Megamall, Shangrila, and Robinson's Galleria. For some cheaper stuff, there is the St. Francis square, it's between the Podium and SM megamall, cheap CDs, DVD's and cellphone stuff there. About 20 min away is Greenhills, there you can find tons of cheap clothes, cellphone stuff, shoes, etc. (don't by DVD's there. They drag you off into the dark alleys next to the mall).
Not much mongering in Ortigas, some bars, etc. Nearby you find the Metrowalk area, some good places to eat, closest place to get cheap DVDs (upstairs in the middle) I've gotten 40-50 peso each, depending on how much you buy. Couple of nice dance clubs (Decades), might be able to pick up some non-P4P girls there, I've heard but not seen that some escorts use the Starbucks there as a meeting place too. If you want to go a bit further, in Quezon City on Timog and Tomas Morato Ave. There are tons of night clubs and bars, mostly a local hangout though.
Now to mogering. Ortigas is kind of far from the usual Makati/Maltate action, esp. During rush hour due to traffic, late at night it can be pretty quick though. Your best bet IMHO is the local Quezon Ave action, that is where I spend the majority of my time when visiting. At the very bottom of the scale are the streetwalkers, I've never tried them, thought about it, but to chicken I guess, so don't really have much to say about it. Next would be the massage places, some good places are Sylvanious (downstairs from the KTV Peagasus), Executive Health Club, Wilderness, there are alot in the area. Prices range from 1000-1500p? For the room depending on the "class" usually 2-3 and time (before 7pm there are discounts) plus the room rate to the girl for ES tip. Finally, there are the KTV or Karaoke TV clubs, like Mystique, Queens Castle, Peagasus, Classmates. In those downstairs is usually a stage and club style seating, tables/chairs or sofas, maybe some small private rooms around the walls. There is usually a "show" of some kind, some dance numbers, some modeling shows (girls strutting around), and maybe some nude solo dancing. There is also a "fish bowl", wehre you can check out the girls awaiting customers. Upstairs are the VIP rooms, some will overlook the stage, they are private, usually with some couches, and a Karaoke system, some with close circuit TV of the stage, and some with video on demand setups to watch movies. This is where I usually hang out, it's not cheap, and actually better with a group of guys (3-4) to help split the costs. The VIP rooms usually have a minimum charge, anywhere from 2500-4000pesos, any charges you incur (drinks, food, etc) count against that minimum charge, to save some costs we usually bring our own bottle, and maybe a bottle of tequila for the girls. Since we know our "managers" we can usually get the corkage charges waived along with a discount too. The girls you pick will cost you either by time, or by a certain amount of drinks per hour depending on their "class" either GRO, model, solo dancer, etc. It’s not that much, usually 300-500 pesos per hour. Now for the ES, there will be girls that will go all the way, some say only BJ, and some are just for company, talk to your manager, he/she will know which ones do or don’t do what. One "code words" that seem to work is either "Gimik" or "Game" like does she go gimik? Or is she game’? Or since you’ll be there for awhile, you can talk to the girls, exchange phone numbers and meet up later. For me and my friends we think of it as an investment, you pay up front for a possible pay off later. They don’t really do barfines in most of the local places, you either do it on site (in the VIP rooms) or arrange to meet later. There are some very hot girls in these places.
If you want the names of a couple of managers, let me know.
Aloha!
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Try Alona Kew, http://www.alona-kew.com/index.html , I've stayed there a few times. Have your girl take the fast boat from Cebu to Tagbilaian. It takes about 1.5 hour. Great place if you are a diver, it's one of the best places in the world. Good luck with the reservation, if you can't get them ask them for a sugestion of another hotel in the same price range.
RaZZorR
Hi,
I know this isn't on the correct thread, but few people read the "Other areas" thread so I'm trying this. I hope Jackson indulges me for this once.
I'm taking a girl from Cebu City to Bohol and want to spend one night on Pangaloa Island and probably Alona Beach. I've never even been to the Phils so this is new.
I tried to book with Isis, but they are full (thanks for the suggestion, Xman). Does anyone have any other ideas for a place for Nov. 3 (one night) that is decent. Maybe $50 or $60 USD on Alona Beach.
I realize maybe it's a little late to book now, but it wasn't decided we'd go to Bohol until recently. Or, if I can't find anything. Is it possible to just go there and find something?
Thanks guys
Redfield10
10-13-08, 02:15
Thanks for the suggestions.
I was able to get a reservation at the Isis resort.
It looks nice enough.
Thanks again.
FreebieFan
10-13-08, 05:49
I use the no furniture as a positive. Tell them your looking for fun in finding furniture with them. The young and eager ones (thinking you might keep them will surely be game). Imagine the fun you can have in searching for a bed together. One thing to note, as Flipinas can be really nosy, is always keep talking and distracted when in the levator to your condo. Make sure theres no floor number and condo number I. E 6F etc. That way they can't find their way back uninvited. Once had one lady sms asking which condo I was in as she wanted a repeat visit. I had made sure that there there was no indication of the condo number and gal gave up trying to find me.
LoveAsianWhores
10-14-08, 08:58
I use the no furniture as a positive. Tell them your looking for fun in finding furniture with them. The young and eager ones (thinking you might keep them will surely be game). Imagine the fun you can have in searching for a bed together. One thing to note, as Flipinas can be really nosy, is always keep talking and distracted when in the levator to your condo. Make sure theres no floor number and condo number I. E 6F etc. That way they can't find their way back uninvited. Once had one lady sms asking which condo I was in as she wanted a repeat visit. I had made sure that there there was no indication of the condo number and gal gave up trying to find me.What I used to do was get out of the elevator two floors early and walk up the stairs to my floor. Confused the hell out of them. I couldn't take any risks for univited guests.
FreebieFan
10-15-08, 01:23
What I used to do was get out of the elevator two floors early and walk up the stairs to my floor. Confused the hell out of them. I couldn't take any risks for univited guests.I love the absolute bollocks that we go through in order to protect ourselves. Protecting our reidence address is one such classic example.
As for me, I have about three names (including a real name that one or two know) but the rest know me by totally different names. I'm probably not the only one. Life was simpler before someone could google your name and find all your prized details.
Pussy Luver
10-16-08, 02:40
The Embassy Club
Does anyone have a contact for the Embassy Club just outside Makati? I have promised a friend I would get him in the place during our upcoming trip and I do not want to stand in the line that normally forms at the door. I read someplace the wait in line can be hours.
Is there a VIP or guest list and how does one go about getting on it. Who do I have to bribe?
I know cash opens all doors in the PI, (and most of the rest of the world for that matter), but it helps to know who to approach. I have heard the door man/person on occasion is a white woman who cannot be enticed to let you in ahead of the others waiting in line unless you are offering her more cash than usual for getting VIP treatment at that club.
If none of you have a contact you are willing to share, got any idea or suggestions about how much of a cash incentive it might take for the door person to let three foreigners in without waiting in line?
PM me if you want to keep your contact secret.
Thanks
In April 2007 I stopped by LA Cafe with a friend to check out the selection of women hanging around. It seemed that the quality and looks of the girls upstairs seemed much better than that of the girls downstairs. But the girls upstairs didn't seem to be agressively seeking customers like those below. Would you say that more normal, mainstream girls hangout upstairs just to listen to the band with their friends, verses the girls downstairs? I did pick up decent looking girl near the band area, but she wasn't nearly as hot as some of the others who were upstairs.
Still Skinning Them Up!
Yella Man
Soapy Smith
10-16-08, 17:55
In April 2007 I stopped by LA Cafe with a friend to check out the selection of women hanging around. It seemed that the quality and looks of the girls upstairs seemed much better than that of the girls downstairs. But the girls upstairs didn't seem to be agressively seeking customers like those below. Would you say that more normal, mainstream girls hangout upstairs just to listen to the band with their friends, verses the girls downstairs? I did pick up decent looking girl near the band area, but she wasn't nearly as hot as some of the others who were upstairs.Yella Man
There's nothing more "normal" or "mainstream" about the girls upstairs. The girls on both floors are there for one purpose: pay for play. I suspect there are several factors that influence which floor the girls work:
Some on the first floor literally have enough money in their pockets for jeepney or bus fare home. If they spend the money to go upstairs (100 php or 150 php, whatever it is now) and they don't score a customer, they can't get home.
The second floor is often a "staging area" for matching p4p girls with groups of Korean or Japanese mongers. Whereas Western men tend to work in a lone wolf mode or, occasionally, with one wingman, Koreans and Japanese often appear in groups of six to eight. The upstairs, especially to the side of the stairs away from the band, is set up with lots of tables, some of them with enough seating for large groups. An Asian group shows up, orders drinks, and starts looking around. Sometimes a p4p girl approaches them, but often the first approach is from a mamasan. She will chat them up briefly and then signals for one or several of the p4p girls to join the table. Sometimes the men at the table send them away, and this sends the message to "send us somebody else." So part of the laid-back approach of the upstairs girls is because they're waiting for the next group of Asians to show up, and the sell to them can sometimes be a drawn out affair. They wait for them because, as rumor has it, the Asians pay more, don't last as long, and don't stretch their delicate parts as much.
In contrast, the downstairs strategy, since men arrive as singles or in twos, is to make a connection as quickly as possible before some other girl does.
Some believe that the percentage of lookers is higher upstairs, and given the Asian behavior of dismissing from the table those that they find unattractive -- yet paying more when they do choose -- it may be that good looking women simply make out better upstairs. It seems to me that downstairs is actually darker, so that facial and body imperfections sometimes go unnoticed until you get the girl out in the light of day. There are some good looking women downstairs, but it's often a struggle to get the less attractive ones out of the way. And maybe the not-so-attractive ones have learned that they need to be more aggressive in order to score.
Also, particularly with the upstairs area away from the band, it's simply less crowded, and that lends itself to letting mongers and girls look each over from afar before one or the other gestures to a desired partner. Downstairs, a dark, crowded place, just doesn't permit eyeballing and gesturing to individual girls at the perimeter. So the girls here have just learned that they need to move in closely. Hanging back and waiting to be summoned just doesn't work.
Just my $.02. I'm sure others have additional explanations.
Skip
The Embassy Club
Does anyone have a contact for the Embassy Club just outside Makati? I have promised a friend I would get him in the place during our upcoming trip and I do not want to stand in the line that normally forms at the door. I read someplace the wait in line can be hours.
Is there a VIP or guest list and how does one go about getting on it. Who do I have to bribe?
I know cash opens all doors in the PI, (and most of the rest of the world for that matter), but it helps to know who to approach. I have heard the door man/person on occasion is a white woman who cannot be enticed to let you in ahead of the others waiting in line unless you are offering her more cash than usual for getting VIP treatment at that club.
ThanksI have been to this club once and in fariness it is a good club. Luckily, I arrived very early and there was no one there yet...so no line...if you take my point arrive early is one way to avoid the line.
Number two, I am sure you can bribe your way in for what a westerner would consider not very much ($10)?
Three, when you show up pretend like you are a VIP and just go to the front of the line and expect to be let in...if this fails try the bribe and then some suttle negotiations.
Four, use the concierge at your hotel. These guys weild a huge amount of influence and know everyone. If you are staying at a low end hotel go to the big hotels (Shangri La, Penn or Mandarin) and talk to the concierge and for a nice tip I am sure he can get you on the VIP list.
Most importantly this club is only open 2-3 days per week (I think Wednesday, Fri and Sat). So make sure you find out which days. It does not get going until very late...If I remember right not until midnight?
Finally, it is a good club but no better than an average club in any major western city. My opinion is there is no reason to go this club where there are very few women looking for foreigners when there are literally hundreds of girls fighting over you everwhere else. If you are set on dancing and making a date of it. Go to the greenbelt with a P4P girl and pick one of the dance clubs on the 2-3 floors.
Good luck, sorry I dont have more info.
Redfield10
10-16-08, 20:52
I am scheduled to fly out from SFO next Thursday night but my father is I'll. Perhaps seriously. I'm thinking about changing my flight to some later time. One option is late Feb and early March. I'm also open to other times. I'll probably stay 10 days or so.
I will need to rebook with penalty by next Thursday. I believe I need to fly before Sept. Can anyone tell me other good 10-14 day periods that might be goo pricewise and weatherwise? This is my first time to the Phils so could use guidance.
Thanks!
The Embassy Club
Does anyone have a contact for the Embassy Club just outside Makati? I have promised a friend I would get him in the place during our upcoming trip and I do not want to stand in the line that normally forms at the door. I read someplace the wait in line can be hours.
Is there a VIP or guest list and how does one go about getting on it. Who do I have to bribe?
I know cash opens all doors in the PI, (and most of the rest of the world for that matter), but it helps to know who to approach. I have heard the door man/person on occasion is a white woman who cannot be enticed to let you in ahead of the others waiting in line unless you are offering her more cash than usual for getting VIP treatment at that club.
If none of you have a contact you are willing to share, got any idea or suggestions about how much of a cash incentive it might take for the door person to let three foreigners in without waiting in line?
PM me if you want to keep your contact secret.
ThanksI cant give you any help in terms of VIP, but what has worked for me is get there about 9:30 and buy your tickets/entry fee and then go out the back to the restaurant across the laneway and have dinner then comeback about 11:00 to midnight, you go through becuse you have your stamp.
Hope that helps.
Wizard
I have an idea of the how all the barfines work.
But went to entertainment center on edsa close to heritage hotel.
Each girl gave me different answers about bar fine.
In angeles I always pay the bar and that includes the girls fee and only tip if I want or she was good. No expectation of any more money.
At entertainment.
The girls told me several different things.
One said you pay bar fine and then pay the girl 3000 for overnight.
One said it was pay bar fine and pay the girl 2000.
Well I found one and paid the bar fine.
I asked her what is the tip.
She said "its up to you".
So I did give her 2000. She was really really good and spent all night.
She was great.
But I am still confused.
Does the bar fine include the pay for the girl and the tip is just extra?
Or does the bar fine go only to the bar and then you pay the girl whatever you negotiate.
I get confused because I am usually in angeles or cebu and only go places where it is a set price that includes everything and only give something.
More if the girl is good and you liked her.
Thanks for the help.
Also if anyone has information about makati bars. What is recommended.
And yes I will read back through here and get some more info.
There's nothing more "normal" or "mainstream" about the girls upstairs. The girls on both floors are there for one purpose: pay for play. I suspect there are several factors that influence which floor the girls work:
Skip
Pretty good explanation.
Thanks,
Slim
GoodEnough
10-17-08, 13:53
The EDSA barfines, which, until recently were Php1,000 and have now gone up to Php1,200-Php1,400 I think do not include the services of the girls. The amount expected is individual and has to be negotiated directly with the lady of choice. Php2,000 for overnight is, in my opinion about right.
GE
The EDSA barfines, which, until recently were Php1,000 and have now gone up to Php1,200-Php1,400 I think do not include the services of the girls. The amount expected is individual and has to be negotiated directly with the lady of choice. Php2,000 for overnight is, in my opinion about right.
GEI was quoted Php2, 500 for ST and 4, 000-4, 500 overnight. At one bar (can't remember the name of the bar but was the one where they had a "cowboy western theme", I was ask to pay bar fine and ST fee up-front.
I did, cause my little brain was doing the thinking and ended up with a hurried, dead fuck service.
Big mistake on my part, can't let the little brain do the negotiating any more!
Skip Kost thanks for the LA Cafe info. I've only been there once or twice so I wasn't aware of the MOI of the various girls there. I'll sit around upstairs next time and observe the cat and mouse games of the girls and customers. You live, you learn!
Still Skinning Them Up!
Yella Man
GoodEnough
10-18-08, 03:36
I was quoted Php2, 500 for ST and 4, 000-4, 500 overnight. At one bar (can't remember the name of the bar but was the one where they had a "cowboy western theme", I was ask to pay bar fine and ST fee up-front.
I did, cause my little brain was doing the thinking and ended up with a hurried, dead fuck service.
Big mistake on my part, can't let the little brain do the negotiating any more!
I know the bar. The same owner has the bar directly upstairs. I think it's called the VIP, and the girls rotate from one to the other. In my experience, you should never pay anything but the barfine upfront. Everything else is dependent on length of time stayed and performance. I never discuss the amount beforehand and if the girl brings it up I find another.
GE
Was in Manila/Makati last week.
Monday: Our first visit was to AirforceOne. There are two wings. Karaoke and massage. Went to massage wing. There are two classes. Economy and business. Economy costs P1500 for room and P1500 for the girl for 90 minutes. Business costs P3000 for the room and P3000 for the girl for 120 minutes. Economy girls are ok where as business girls are good. Felt expensive and left without exploring.
Went to LA Cafe. Paid P100 and went to first floor. On the way eyed a Chinese looking cutie. She was not paying any attention to anybody. Asked the cafe lady to call her. The chines looking girl came to my table. She looks cuter when nearer. Her name is Asia. Was quoted P3000 and took her to my hotel room for upto 3 am. But after one shot sent her away as she was still in her 6th day of periods. Overall very cooperative. Boobs were a bit disappointing. Size was small compared to her well built body. Asked her to leave her mobile number.
Tuesday: Second night made nearly 10 calls which she didn't respond. So gave a break and slept peacefully,
Wednesday: Third night went to Burgos road/street. Went into a number of bars which didnot have register like things infront of their bars (felt intimidated finding the registers infront of the bars hence never ventured into such bars). Most of the bars, found girls with heavy makeup. Most of the bars were looking like cheaper versions of Nanaplaza of Bangkok. Not impressed. Exited without any selection. Headed back to LA Cafe.
As usual went to first floor. Tonight the number of girl were high. Saw Asia with some other guys. Hence could not take her out. Spotted a cute looking girl. Called her over to my table. Was quoted P2000 for upto 3am. Took her along to my hotel. Very cooperative. Good breast size. Only problem was as my friend took her friend for short time. Both of them started using the hotel telephones and after one shot she was keen to go back. Paid her P2000 and shoed her away.
My conclusion. LA Cafe is the best. You can choose who you want. Certainly there are many working girls and students who come there for extra money. Apparently Asia works for an online gambling company from 7am to 3pm. She introduced her friend who works in Convergys call center.
For having taken information from the forum, felt I should contribute back to the forum. Hence this report.
Key Master
10-19-08, 19:02
Thanks for the report. Just a few comments. I don't know why 3 am is being quoted to you, is that you or the women? I have never discussed a time like that. At the prices you were negotiating, I would have expected them to stay until way later in the morning. In regards to your friend doing a short time, that is a problem I believe when going with friends and taking women who are friends. It can be real fun, but when one leaves the other one usually follows.
Arrived on Saturday late in the afternoon. Check in renaissance new world hotel. Feel excited as usual at the beginning of the trip. Decided to go for 'steam-out'. Walk to the back of the hotel, cross the road, to a MP by the name of "Phoenix". Paid 1200 (happy hour rate, turn 1400 by 8pm). Pick a young gal, 21 yr, in the room, no money was mentioned. She give me a lot of GFE, and very nice BBBJ, and of course a happy ending. She didn't give me much massage though, cause I spend most of the time kissing her and hugging her. At the end, I pay her 1500. She accepted it happily.
My gal that I knew from my previous trip turn up at my hotel as promised, only 2. 5 hours late. It's fine with me, cause I use that 2 hours for a nice nag. We go out for dinner at greenbelt3, then bedrock at malate for a nice live band, then back to room. After a lot of alcohol, you can bet that things are going on well. She has started to french me even in the bar. Good session, only thing to regret is that I forgot to buy condom. Called to receptionish, apparently they do sell condom. Lucky me. But, later found out is is the wierd condom I ever used. The lubricant carry a strong unpleasant smell. And, after I put on it, my skin seems getting numb, and I don't feel much during the pumbing. I eventually have to finish it by hand.
Sun is a relax day. Get a good massage at "the spa" next to Greenbelt 1. Really good massage. Worth it for 1K peso for 1 hour.
My friend arrived late in the evening. He got a steam-out too at the MP (behind the hotel). Me, meet the massage lady I had the previous night. She finish work at 9. We meet at the starbuck then walk back to hotel for another session. She tops the BEST SEX I have for as long as my memory takes me.
Send gals back. Sunday midnight, hit EDSA, went to 3 bars, didn't really like anyone. Went to explore other bars mentioned in the forum "Chaos, Vision". Taxi took us around, but couldn't find them. Talk to people on the street, they say these places are closed.
No choice, went to Burgos. Stop a few bars. It's too late to find any gems. (around 4am). Bar fine quoted at billboard is 3900K, gal asked for another 4K. This is on top of the drinks we already spent there. It's a rip-off. Decided to go back hotel alone.
To be continued.
FreebieFan
10-20-08, 07:40
Yeah, sorry that you had a wasted trip looking for these places. They have long since closed. Visions was famous tho. Had a lnog stage and literally hundreds of girls on it. There was no charm or style needed in that place. Literally a crooked finger aimed at the one of your fancy ( and as it was so crowded often the wrong one thought you were pointing at her) , shed hop down and off you went.
Totally lacking in style and class but a great place if you were in a big gang of guys!
I have some work in Batangas, so I spend Monday night in Batangas city. Went to a high-class joint named Playmate. High-class not exactly refers to the decoration or furnishing, but the rather the gals there. They are mostly 7-10 out of scale of 10, in terms of look & body.
Price steep: 300 for LD, and half for men. The right strategy for those who want a happy ending is to pick your gal, buy her 1-2 drinks to chat and confirm she will be a good one. Then, off you go to the private room for action.
Damage: 2000 peso for private room (consumable) 5000 peso to have sex with the gal in the private room.
The bill for drinks (for me and my friend) comes up to 8000 peso. So, total we spend about 22 K (11K each) for a 4 hours fun, with happy endings. Gals quality is top notch though. I would rate 9. 5 in terms of look & body for my gal.
Tuesday. Back to manila. A gal I met in Burgo street's bar come over to meet me for dinner. (I didn't expect her to be punctual, but she did. Surprise me a little). Dinner is good and loosen her up. Next stop, flamingo at burgos to pick up a gal for my friend. We found a pretty-face. In the bar, the gals keep rubbing their ass between our legs. I already got a hand-on. I un-button one near her breast area and slide my hand in. Pass through her bra and reach out for her nipple. As juicy as you can imagine. Atmosphere is heating up.
Left burgos. My gal suggested a disco by the name of "bureau". A new disco, within walking distance from flamingo. Nice place, play hip-pop, and some techno. We spend about 5K for 4 hours dancing in there. Finally left at 2am heading back to hotel. Above average sex for my gal. She have a kid. Not perfect body but she make up with genuine affection. She have to leave at 5am, so that she can go back and take care her kid for school. Motherhood is great. She didn't ask for the price. I gave her 4K peso, as she basically entertain me for whole night and a good sex at the end. She left happily.
- to be continued.
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Cunning Stunt
10-21-08, 08:36
Was in Manila/Makati last week.
Her name is Asia. Was quoted P3000 and took her to my hotel room for upto 3 am. But after one shot sent her away as she was still in her 6th day of periods.
Was quoted P2000 for upto 3am. Took her along to my hotel.
Thanks for your contribution but I really think that you overpaid, particularly the first girl who did not provide good service and conveniently forgot to tell you about her period.
It was only a short while ago that 95% of LA Cafe girls could be taken for P1T to 1.2T ST and 1.5T LT. Has those days gone for good? GH
Thanks for the report. Just a few comments. I don't know why 3 am is being quoted to you, is that you or the women? I have never discussed a time like that. At the prices you were negotiating, I would have expected them to stay until way later in the morning. In regards to your friend doing a short time, that is a problem I believe when going with friends and taking women who are friends. It can be real fun, but when one leaves the other one usually follows.Hi KM, No it was not me. The girl wanted to go at 3am since she has to go to work at 7am. It was my second time in LACafe. Next time, perhaps I will make my moves correctly.
Thanks for your contribution but I really think that you overpaid, particularly the first girl who did not provide good service and conveniently forgot to tell you about her period.
It was only a short while ago that 95% of LA Cafe girls could be taken for P1T to 1.2T ST and 1.5T LT. Has those days gone for good? GHI think so too. But the girl was so cute, I was anxious not to lose her. Next visit I will be more careful not to spoil the market.
I agree, but it's a free market system there, subject to negotiations.
I've overpayed myself, especially if she is HOT and I just gotta have her.
Thanks for your contribution but I really think that you overpaid, particularly the first girl who did not provide good service and conveniently forgot to tell you about her period.
It was only a short while ago that 95% of LA Cafe girls could be taken for P1T to 1.2T ST and 1.5T LT. Has those days gone for good? GH
Dan Hawaii
10-22-08, 17:55
The Embassy Club
Does anyone have a contact for the Embassy Club just outside Makati? I have promised a friend I would get him in the place during our upcoming trip and I do not want to stand in the line that normally forms at the door. I read someplace the wait in line can be hours.
Is there a VIP or guest list and how does one go about getting on it. Who do I have to bribe?
I know cash opens all doors in the PI, (and most of the rest of the world for that matter), but it helps to know who to approach. I have heard the door man/person on occasion is a white woman who cannot be enticed to let you in ahead of the others waiting in line unless you are offering her more cash than usual for getting VIP treatment at that club.
If none of you have a contact you are willing to share, got any idea or suggestions about how much of a cash incentive it might take for the door person to let three foreigners in without waiting in line?
PM me if you want to keep your contact secret.
Thanks
I have been to this club several times, its in The Fort, Global City. Anyways, you can reserve a VIP table, its pretty cheap (100 to 200usd), depending on size. And that money is "comsumable", meaning it goes towards your drinking expenditures. However, the food menu does not, you need to pay that seperately. My friend, who lives there, always makes the reservations for me. Getting a VIP table will let you enter the VIP line, which is pretty much empty through out the night. And you get to bring other people in for free also, but there is a limit to how many people you can let in for free.
I would bring a date, because there are no working girls here.
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