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Dan Hawaii
10-22-08, 18:05
Most importantly this club is only open 2-3 days per week (I think Wednesday, Fri and Sat). So make sure you find out which days. It does not get going until very late...If I remember right not until midnight?.

Yup, 12 midnight is when it starts getting crowded. Only opens on Fri, Sat , and Wednesday. Wed is ladys night. Club opens around 9pm.


Finally, it is a good club but no better than an average club in any major western city. My opinion is there is no reason to go this club where there are very few women looking for foreigners when there are literally hundreds of girls fighting over you everwhere else. If you are set on dancing and making a date of it. Go to the greenbelt with a P4P girl and pick one of the dance clubs on the 2-3 floors.

Good luck, sorry I dont have more info.

Greenbelt clubs are very small compared to Club Embassy. They are usually restaurants by day, and wanna be clubs by night. But they do get crowded, maybe because they are so small. There are WGs here.

Gaijin Gigolo
10-22-08, 22:13
All,

Thanks in advance for your help...long time poster here on the Singapore board, making my first foray into the Philippines mother lode.

Couple of naive questions if you will...is there a dress code for either LA Cafe or Cafe Havana? I suspect not, but... Also, is the Cafe Havana scene in Malate as full of freelancers and regular girls looking to get picked up as the one at Greenbelt? The Greenbelt scene really appeals to me but I don't wanna have to go all the way to Makati as I'll be staying in the Executive Plaza. I have a thing for sweet young college girls.... :-)

Also, with the Executive Plaza, when I booked on Agoda, the site asked for a second guest name. Can I expect the hotel to ask the girl of the day/night to sign in or be carded? Surely not, right?

One more if I may...this will be my first visit to Manila, will be staying from Sunday til the next Sunday. With just 7 nights, I'm leaning toward just focusing on the scene around Ermate/Malate and headed to EDSA a times probably. P. Bugos in Makati is appealing, but I'm not keen on 3000 peso bar fines, then that much for the girl too. I'm also tentatively booked to spend three nights in Angeles but may not make the trip if things go as well as I expect them to in Manila. Opinions?

Any and all input is great appreciated and if any of you are planning a trip to Singapore, please let me know, would be happy to show you around.

GG

FreebieFan
10-23-08, 01:13
Yes, have seen your reports on Singapore. Always a good playground.

Re dress code. Its same temperature but less humid than Singapore. Shorts are fine most places. BUT. Somehow Filipinas work best when you got a clean cut look. Chinos, smart denims, polo shirts all seem to work. I've found that if you look smart/neat/cleancut/shaved. Sommehow makes you look much more handsome than you really are. Just MPOV.

For Burgos barfines. Theres no need to pay unless you are in really really "have to have her now" mode. Best route is to find the cutie you like, get her phone number ask her if shes free tomorrrow afternoon (and she always is) and tell her yo would rather spend on her than pay the bar the barfine. That way you can have a much cheaper afternoon jolly. Thats what I do anyways.

Have fun!

Emale
10-23-08, 05:36
All,

Thanks in advance for your help...long time poster here on the Singapore board, making my first foray into the Philippines mother lode.

Couple of naive questions if you will...is there a dress code for either LA Cafe or Cafe Havana? I suspect not, but... Also, is the Cafe Havana scene in Malate as full of freelancers and regular girls looking to get picked up as the one at Greenbelt? The Greenbelt scene really appeals to me but I don't wanna have to go all the way to Makati as I'll be staying in the Executive Plaza. I have a thing for sweet young college girls.... :-)

Also, with the Executive Plaza, when I booked on Agoda, the site asked for a second guest name. Can I expect the hotel to ask the girl of the day/night to sign in or be carded? Surely not, right?

One more if I may...this will be my first visit to Manila, will be staying from Sunday til the next Sunday. With just 7 nights, I'm leaning toward just focusing on the scene around Ermate/Malate and headed to EDSA a times probably. P. Bugos in Makati is appealing, but I'm not keen on 3000 peso bar fines, then that much for the girl too. I'm also tentatively booked to spend three nights in Angeles but may not make the trip if things go as well as I expect them to in Manila. Opinions?

Any and all input is great appreciated and if any of you are planning a trip to Singapore, please let me know, would be happy to show you around.

GG

There is no real dress code but it's always appreciated by the women if you do dress nice.

When you check in if they ask you for the second guest name tell them your not sure yet !! It is doubtful they will ask at the Executive since most of the guest are there for the same reason you're there. They may ask for an ID but it should not be a problem.

If you go to P Burgos, remember at Flamingo, Wid West, Banditos and Magumbo the barfine is 1900 and is negotiable based on the number of ladies drinks purchased. I believe the barfine at Rogues is 1,000 to 1,200, others can verify that.

Why not try Angeles ? You might have fun, most of the bars are in walking distance or a short trike ride. There are probably close to 100 bars and a 1,000 girls to choose from. That way when you return to the Philippines you will have a better sense of your options.

Have Fun

Mr Hawaii
10-23-08, 06:12
Good choice of hotels. They won't bother your "date" unless you bring her back after about 11pm, then they will ask her for her ID card and keep it till she leaves. When she leaves and picks up her card they will call your room to inform you "your guest is leaving", then you give the OK.

Is a short walk to LA Cafe, and even shorter walk to Robinson's (mall), where they just built an addition and plenty of stores, restaurants, bowling alley, fitness center, diagnostic lab (if you want your girl tested).

Short taxi ride to EDSA (about 100p, maybe less on the meter). They will frisk you as you enter the place, then pick up your girl, pay the barfine (was 1200p in Sept) and don't forget to ask: 1) have baby? 2) when did you have your period? 3) you give blowjob? Then, off to the hotel, finish, then send her back to EDSA in taxi and walk to LA Cafe for #2 for the nite.

Anyway, you'll get the hang of it. (Remember to ask for nonsmoking floor if you detest the smell of smoke. It helps a little).

Gaijin Gigolo
10-23-08, 08:43
Thanks much fan man...much appreciated! Looks like I better pack an extra set of pants or two...or just buy some new ones at Robinson's. Excellent tip on the Burgos scene, MUCH appreciated!



Yes, have seen your reports on Singapore. Always a good playground.

Re dress code. Its same temperature but less humid than Singapore. Shorts are fine most places. BUT. Somehow Filipinas work best when you got a clean cut look. Chinos, smart denims, polo shirts all seem to work. I've found that if you look smart/neat/cleancut/shaved. Sommehow makes you look much more handsome than you really are. Just MPOV.

For Burgos barfines. Theres no need to pay unless you are in really really "have to have her now" mode. Best route is to find the cutie you like, get her phone number ask her if shes free tomorrrow afternoon (and she always is) and tell her yo would rather spend on her than pay the bar the barfine. That way you can have a much cheaper afternoon jolly. Thats what I do anyways.

Have fun!

Gaijin Gigolo
10-23-08, 08:45
Thanks much Emale...much appreciated! Yah, that was what I suspected. I just wanted to be sure. ;-) Excellent advice on the Burgos barfines. And yah, I think I will make a trip up to Angeles...only a couple of hours away, and you're right, would give me a better perspective of the PI. Thanks again!



There is no real dress code but it's always appreciated by the women if you do dress nice.

When you check in if they ask you for the second guest name tell them your not sure yet !! It is doubtful they will ask at the Executive since most of the guest are there for the same reason you're there. They may ask for an ID but it should not be a problem.

If you go to P Burgos, remember at Flamingo, Wid West, Banditos and Magumbo the barfine is 1900 and is negotiable based on the number of ladies drinks purchased. I believe the barfine at Rogues is 1,000 to 1,200, others can verify that.

Why not try Angeles ? You might have fun, most of the bars are in walking distance or a short trike ride. There are probably close to 100 bars and a 1,000 girls to choose from. That way when you return to the Philippines you will have a better sense of your options.

Have Fun

Gaijin Gigolo
10-23-08, 08:49
And thanks much MrHawaii. Yah, after much RTFF, the Executive seemed to be the clear winner. I will definitely ask for a non-smoking room and a high floor if possible. Thanks on the EDSA tip....really had no idea how far it was but sounds quite manageable. Thanks again!


Good choice of hotels. They won't bother your "date" unless you bring her back after about 11pm, then they will ask her for her ID card and keep it till she leaves. When she leaves and picks up her card they will call your room to inform you "your guest is leaving", then you give the OK.

Is a short walk to LA Cafe, and even shorter walk to Robinson's (mall), where they just built an addition and plenty of stores, restaurants, bowling alley, fitness center, diagnostic lab (if you want your girl tested).

Short taxi ride to EDSA (about 100p, maybe less on the meter). They will frisk you as you enter the place, then pick up your girl, pay the barfine (was 1200p in Sept) and don't forget to ask: 1) have baby? 2) when did you have your period? 3) you give blowjob? Then, off to the hotel, finish, then send her back to EDSA in taxi and walk to LA Cafe for #2 for the nite.

Anyway, you'll get the hang of it. (Remember to ask for nonsmoking floor if you detest the smell of smoke. It helps a little).

Tryntry
10-23-08, 20:44
Also, with the Executive Plaza, when I booked on Agoda, the site asked for a second guest name. Can I expect the hotel to ask the girl of the day/night to sign in or be carded? Surely not, right?When I book with Agoda. I just enter Ms. Girl. Friend

At check-in if they ask, I tell them she is running late.

In fact I'll be staying there next month.

FunnyGoLucky
10-23-08, 22:01
Hey guys, I'm wondering if LA Cafe is the kinda place you walk into check out the goods, strike a deal and then take her/them to your hotel?
Something like OT in Singapore?

If it is, what're some of the closest hotels and if not, is there something like OT somewhere in Manila?

ThanksWe all would be very, very thankful if you read the posts before here !

You already knew what kind of place are LA Cafe !

Gaijin Gigolo
10-24-08, 00:24
Wtf....READ the forum, dude....all that information is readily available if you just scroll back a couple of pages. Hell, even on THIS page. Don't disrespect the efforts of those giving out reams of free advice here by being so f*cking lazy.


Hey guys, I'm wondering if LA Cafe is the kinda place you walk into check out the goods, strike a deal and then take her/them to your hotel?
Something like OT in Singapore?

If it is, what're some of the closest hotels and if not, is there something like OT somewhere in Manila?

Thanks

FreebieFan
10-24-08, 01:08
Congrats Gaijin for taking the time to personally thank all posters who assisted in your enquiry. Thanking another person is a rare commodity these days ( and surely on some of these boards) so Mr GG.. enjoy a great time in Manila.

And thank for saying thanks. Its appreciated.

Now if only the idiot who I allowed to cut in front of me when queuing at the traffic light this am had the same basic courtesy of thanking me, life would be even better.!

BKKguru
10-24-08, 03:49
All,

Thanks in advance for your help...long time poster here on the Singapore board, making my first foray into the Philippines mother lode.

Couple of naive questions if you will...is there a dress code for either LA Cafe or Cafe Havana? I suspect not, but...

GG

GG,
1) Executive Plaza - Its good value for the money. Hotel location is A+. Very GF. When my friend checked into this Hotel and reached his room he got a phone call. A man was calling to see if he needed "company"! Apparently some one in the Hotel staff tips off these guys when they see a expat/foreigner checking in alone. However, I did not get this phone call when I stayed here....even though I was waiting for this call! ;)

2) Dress code - Business casual is good but I always wear jeans. I recommend you carry a good brand perfume like Polo or Nautica. If you apply the same perfume every time, it becomes your "signature". Girls always like guys who smell good.

3) Pimp or agent - once when I was walking from Executive Plaza to LA Cafe a Pimp stopped me. I was not interested so I kept walking. The next day he saw me again and started following me. So I stopped and talk with him. He was literally begging me to come inside and see the girls. "No charge to see the ladies" is what he kept repeating. So I said what the hell and went inside to the first floor. There were at least 20 girls sitting on sofas and some were standing.The quality was ok....not outstanding. So if you see a pimp you can go with him provided you dont have to get in a taxi. I would not get in a taxi with any pimp.

4) Robinson Mall - good place for window shopping and flirting. You can try your luck with the sales girls....each store has a ton of sales girls. Start with a coffee invitation....you never know when you will get lucky.

Send me a PM if you have any specific questions. Be sure to write a trip report and Good Luck!

Scuba 1972
10-24-08, 04:30
I have found that of all the countries I have visted for trade expos. The best is Manila for picking up hot girls.

Even the most mundane Expos will have a whole range of very hot girls compared to anywhere else.

The students form the Universities are so damn hot it stuns me each time.

I have chatted and got phone numbers on many an occasion. Unfortunately never had the time to follow through except once.

It was a Pharmaceutical Trade Show. She was a student. But working part time for a cosmetics agent. Looking hot in her white uniform. Chatted about her product for a bit. Said she was bored and started flriting quite openly.

Asked her of she was doing anything for dinner. And that evening she came straight over for dinner at my hotel. The Heritage.

Made sure wine was on tap so to speak. Bit of footsie under the table and the line. You can freshen up using my room bathroom was accepted without hesitation. Once in room she place her bag down. Sat next to me on the couch and within minutes DFK was in order.

Then to the shower where she was quite a handful with the soap. She knew her soaps for sure. After a good rubbing and scrubbing she knelt down and gave me an exquisite blow job while soaping my balls.

I told her I could not hold much longer which only made her intesify her efforts. I shot my load and was amazed as she swallowed the whole lot. It was quite a sight with her smiling up at me with cum coating her lips.

Apparently its good for the complexion she said. Who the hell am I to argue.

Anyhow I was pretty drained and she squeezed every drop out of me.

I stayed in the shower for another 15 minutes to recover.

In bed she was as enthusiastic. She liked doggie a lot as she said she felt it made her cum faster.

My only concern was she kept wanting bareback. No matter how tempting I really did not want to take the risk. I have to say it was damn tough to be disciplined when she had my cock near her shaved wet pussy. Pushing it closer and closer. Had to make sure the condoms were right in front of me so I would stay focussed.

It was a damn good night. And was disappointed that I was heading back to Singapore the next day. As I had really wanted another night with her.

My biggest disappointment is that sincee then I lost her number. So I have to had to go back to using DIA when heading back to Manila. Thsi requires mroe work on my part.

But I really now scour for info on Trade Expos in Manila.a nd hope to persuade my company to send me to any that may be relevant. Those expos are a goldmine.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

GoodEnough
10-24-08, 05:20
GG:

Cafe Havana, in Greenbelt 3 is a hell of a lot more up market than LA, and most of the action is at the outside tables. Most of the people are casually dressed but reasonably well dressed. I was there again on Wednesday night, and noticed (again) that the guys seemed to be businessmen fresh off of a day's work. The ladies too are, on average, more well dressed and much less aggressive than at LA. I have a fairly funny story to recount about my visit there on Wednesday, but I'm in the airport, my battery is low, and there's not enough time to recount it here. Anyway, if you're looking for above average in class and deportment, and a much nicer ambiance than LA, I'd give this a try first. If you get there between 8 and 9 you should have plenty of selection, and if nothing and no one appeals to you, you will still have ample time to hit LA, which never closes.

There's no dress code at LA, though I agree if you're reasonably decently dressed you will have a better chance of attracting any woman in the place. However, I've seen guys who looked like they bought the clothes they were wearing at a thrift shop and then slept in them for three days. I assume that they also succeeded in attracting women.

Daddy Warbucks, I'm sorry that I missed you in Manila, I had too many work commitments and just ran out of time and energy. Getting much too old to burn the candle at both ends.

GE

FreebieFan
10-24-08, 07:02
Good Enough makes an interesting point that hes " too old to burn the candle at both ends".. I have a weekend coming up with a cutie in Manila whos 23 and gets more and more energised the more she cums( whereas I of course get more and more drained).

Just led me to thinking how old all of us really are.

As for me, Im steadily between 50 and 55.. sometimes think Im 21( San Mig and hot kisses seems to work best ) ..till I wake up look in the mirror and realise my real age!

Gaijin Gigolo
10-24-08, 11:02
I think I listed Ms. Future Shorttimer....same same. :-) Thanks...lol



When I book with Agoda. I just enter Ms. Girl. Friend

At check-in if they ask, I tell them she is running late.

In fact I'll be staying there next month.

Gaijin Gigolo
10-24-08, 11:03
Hey, anytime fan man...the help is truly appreciated. Thanks, and I cerrtainly will. :-)

If its any consolation, the Singapore drivers can't possibly be any better...lol



Congrats Gaijin for taking the time to personally thank all posters who assisted in your enquiry. Thanking another person is a rare commodity these days ( and surely on some of these boards) so Mr GG.. enjoy a great time in Manila.

And thank for saying thanks. Its appreciated.

Now if only the idiot who I allowed to cut in front of me when queuing at the traffic light this am had the same basic courtesy of thanking me, life would be even better.!

Gaijin Gigolo
10-24-08, 11:07
Thanks much for the input Guru...glad to know I made the right hotel choice. You mention Robinson's...actually I'm looking forward to that scene almost as much as I am LA Cafe. The thrill of the hunt, eh, plus my experience is the 'regular' girl or at last non-total pro is a more fun. :-) Having said that, I'll sure be sticking my head into some brothels as well, I'm sure. Thanks again for the tips.



GG,
1) Executive Plaza - Its good value for the money. Hotel location is A+. Very GF. When my friend checked into this Hotel and reached his room he got a phone call. A man was calling to see if he needed "company"! Apparently some one in the Hotel staff tips off these guys when they see a expat/foreigner checking in alone. However, I did not get this phone call when I stayed here....even though I was waiting for this call! ;)

2) Dress code - Business casual is good but I always wear jeans. I recommend you carry a good brand perfume like Polo or Nautica. If you apply the same perfume every time, it becomes your "signature". Girls always like guys who smell good.

3) Pimp or agent - once when I was walking from Executive Plaza to LA Cafe a Pimp stopped me. I was not interested so I kept walking. The next day he saw me again and started following me. So I stopped and talk with him. He was literally begging me to come inside and see the girls. "No charge to see the ladies" is what he kept repeating. So I said what the hell and went inside to the first floor. There were at least 20 girls sitting on sofas and some were standing.The quality was ok....not outstanding. So if you see a pimp you can go with him provided you dont have to get in a taxi. I would not get in a taxi with any pimp.

4) Robinson Mall - good place for window shopping and flirting. You can try your luck with the sales girls....each store has a ton of sales girls. Start with a coffee invitation....you never know when you will get lucky.

Send me a PM if you have any specific questions. Be sure to write a trip report and Good Luck!

Gaijin Gigolo
10-24-08, 11:09
Had never thought of that, Scuba Steve...but I will most definitely be on the lookout for uni girls. Legal ones, of course. Thanks for the idea...


I have found that of all the countries I have visted for trade expos. The best is Manila for picking up hot girls.

Even the most mundane Expos will have a whole range of very hot girls compared to anywhere else.

The students form the Universities are so damn hot it stuns me each time.

I have chatted and got phone numbers on many an occasion. Unfortunately never had the time to follow through except once.

It was a Pharmaceutical Trade Show. She was a student. But working part time for a cosmetics agent. Looking hot in her white uniform. Chatted about her product for a bit. Said she was bored and started flriting quite openly.

Asked her of she was doing anything for dinner. And that evening she came straight over for dinner at my hotel. The Heritage.

Made sure wine was on tap so to speak. Bit of footsie under the table and the line. You can freshen up using my room bathroom was accepted without hesitation. Once in room she place her bag down. Sat next to me on the couch and within minutes DFK was in order.

Then to the shower where she was quite a handful with the soap. She knew her soaps for sure. After a good rubbing and scrubbing she knelt down and gave me an exquisite blow job while soaping my balls.

I told her I could not hold much longer which only made her intesify her efforts. I shot my load and was amazed as she swallowed the whole lot. It was quite a sight with her smiling up at me with cum coating her lips.

Apparently its good for the complexion she said. Who the hell am I to argue.

Anyhow I was pretty drained and she squeezed every drop out of me.

I stayed in the shower for another 15 minutes to recover.

In bed she was as enthusiastic. She liked doggie a lot as she said she felt it made her cum faster.

My only concern was she kept wanting bareback. No matter how tempting I really did not want to take the risk. I have to say it was damn tough to be disciplined when she had my cock near her shaved wet pussy. Pushing it closer and closer. Had to make sure the condoms were right in front of me so I would stay focussed.

It was a damn good night. And was disappointed that I was heading back to Singapore the next day. As I had really wanted another night with her.

My biggest disappointment is that sincee then I lost her number. So I have to had to go back to using DIA when heading back to Manila. Thsi requires mroe work on my part.

But I really now scour for info on Trade Expos in Manila.a nd hope to persuade my company to send me to any that may be relevant. Those expos are a goldmine.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Gaijin Gigolo
10-24-08, 11:12
GoodEnough, thanks much. Do you happen to know if the Cafe Havana scene in Malate is on par with the one in Makati? I could see myself skipping Makati alltogether if it is...since I'll also be having a look at Burgos and three nights in Angeles during my week. It's already looking like I'll be pressed for optimal shag time. :-) Thanks for the help.


GG:

Cafe Havana, in Greenbelt 3 is a hell of a lot more up market than LA, and most of the action is at the outside tables. Most of the people are casually dressed but reasonably well dressed. I was there again on Wednesday night, and noticed (again) that the guys seemed to be businessmen fresh off of a day's work. The ladies too are, on average, more well dressed and much less aggressive than at LA. I have a fairly funny story to recount about my visit there on Wednesday, but I'm in the airport, my battery is low, and there's not enough time to recount it here. Anyway, if you're looking for above average in class and deportment, and a much nicer ambiance than LA, I'd give this a try first. If you get there between 8 and 9 you should have plenty of selection, and if nothing and no one appeals to you, you will still have ample time to hit LA, which never closes.

There's no dress code at LA, though I agree if you're reasonably decently dressed you will have a better chance of attracting any woman in the place. However, I've seen guys who looked like they bought the clothes they were wearing at a thrift shop and then slept in them for three days. I assume that they also succeeded in attracting women.

Daddy Warbucks, I'm sorry that I missed you in Manila, I had too many work commitments and just ran out of time and energy. Getting much too old to burn the candle at both ends.

GE

GoodEnough
10-25-08, 01:21
Sorry GG, can't help you at all there, as I've never been in the place. When I'm in the Malate/Ermita area I tend to stick to LA or G Point, which has become my favorite bar in the area. It's (my opinion only) much nicer than LA, with better bands and altogether more pleasant staff. Granted, it's much smaller, and is pretty much hit or miss on any given night, but given that it's only a 5 or 10 minute walk from LA, it's worth checking out.

GE

Dan Hawaii
10-25-08, 06:26
First time my friends and I went there was a good learning experience. Did not take a girl there, but a couple of my friends did. It's so funny that when food and beer are on the table, the girls come in droves. We was like, yeah it's party time. But when the food and beer went, the girls went too. Hahaha, Just a funny.
The second time we went, we were not hungry for food, but for some spicy fingerlicking girlies. I managed to find a nice Latino looking girl that had "the look" (latino look) that I like. She was awesome! Body was okay, she had a baby and her body was not as 'tight' as I would like, however, she made it up in bed. She was one of the best, loves sex, and soo soo wet. Made moaning noises that was sexy and sensual. She actually woke me up the next morning by playing with little brother for round 3.

Gaijin Gigolo
10-25-08, 11:26
No worries mon, thanks for all the help. Will check out G Point too and will do the research on the Malate Cafe Havana myself and report back. Time to start packing! :-)



Sorry GG, can't help you at all there, as I've never been in the place. When I'm in the Malate/Ermita area I tend to stick to LA or G Point, which has become my favorite bar in the area. It's (my opinion only) much nicer than LA, with better bands and altogether more pleasant staff. Granted, it's much smaller, and is pretty much hit or miss on any given night, but given that it's only a 5 or 10 minute walk from LA, it's worth checking out.

GE

Gaijin Gigolo
10-25-08, 11:29
Cool...I'm looking forward to the trip. I do pretty well with the Pinays here in Singapore so I'm hoping for even better things in the motherland. Should be a whole week of shag, shower, recover and repeat. ;-)



First time my friends and I went there was a good learning experience. Did not take a girl there, but a couple of my friends did. It's so funny that when food and beer are on the table, the girls come in droves. We was like, yeah it's party time. But when the food and beer went, the girls went too. Hahaha, Just a funny.
The second time we went, we were not hungry for food, but for some spicy fingerlicking girlies. I managed to find a nice Latino looking girl that had "the look" (latino look) that I like. She was awesome! Body was okay, she had a baby and her body was not as 'tight' as I would like, however, she made it up in bed. She was one of the best, loves sex, and soo soo wet. Made moaning noises that was sexy and sensual. She actually woke me up the next morning by playing with little brother for round 3.

Mandiri
10-25-08, 12:27
And thanks much MrHawaii. Yah, after much RTFF, the Executive seemed to be the clear winner. I will definitely ask for a non-smoking room and a high floor if possible. Thanks on the EDSA tip....really had no idea how far it was but sounds quite manageable. Thanks again!

Gaijin,

I think I understand some of your tastes from our exchanges on the Singapore board about 18 months or so ago. In my view, you will love La Havana Makati (Makati Greenbelt 3) -- pretty high-end people, feeling of the 'hunt', a mix of regular girls and FL's etc. LA Cafe etc are very very low end pick-up joints, I went there once, as soon as I stepped in I stepped out, it was a ghastly experience. I may get flamed for saying so, fair enough, but this place is really low-end, no sense of 'hunting' at all, dirty, smokey, full of fat 50+ year olds who can't get laid in the West etc. Not to mention that when you bring back one of those hardcore pro's to your hotel room, you'd better be careful at not getting stolen, i think I read quite a few stories on this board. These are hard-core pros...

Anyway, enjoy MNL, it's paradise. IMHO La Havana is outstanding.
I am here on business and I have to say meetings get in the way - LOL.

Wicked Roger
10-25-08, 13:05
Gaijin,

IIn my view, you will love La Havana Makati (Makati Greenbelt 3) -- pretty high-end people, feeling of the 'hunt', a mix of regular girls and FL's etc.

LA Cafe etc are very very low end pick-up joints, I went there once, as soon as I stepped in I stepped out, it was a ghastly experience. I may get flamed for saying so, fair enough, but this place is really low-end, no sense of 'hunting' at all, dirty, smokey, full of fat 50+ year olds who can't get laid in the West etc. Not to mention that when you bring back one of those hardcore pro's to your hotel room, you'd better be careful at not getting stolen, i think I read quite a few stories on this board. These are hard-core pros...

Anyway, enjoy MNL, it's paradise. IMHO La Havana is outstanding.
I am here on business and I have to say meetings get in the way - LOL.
GG

I tend to agree with Mandiri despite bieng one of those 50+ guys :D But then I only like LBFMs so I dont care what the western ladies say or think

Posted earlier about LA Cafe and never been a great fan, prefer Havana Cafe, even the Starbucks next door has a few potentials as well

Also, taxis from LA Cafe late at night/early morning - see earlier posts as some go to Makati via the local areas where the police try and shake you down for a contribution to their favourite charity. So be careful with those immediately outside LA Cafe and make sure you tell them to take you the direct route via the main roads

Have fun, glad you got my PMs as they will also help your stay in Manila and put a smile on your face...:)

OnlyMe
10-25-08, 14:51
GG

I tend to agree with Mandiri despite bieng one of those 50+ guys :D But then I only like LBFMs so I dont care what the western ladies say or think

Posted earlier about LA Cafe and never been a great fan, prefer Havana Cafe, even the Starbucks next door has a few potentials as well

Also, taxis from LA Cafe late at night/early morning - see earlier posts as some go to Makati via the local areas where the police try and shake you down for a contribution to their favourite charity. So be careful with those immediately outside LA Cafe and make sure you tell them to take you the direct route via the main roads

Have fun, glad you got my PMs as they will also help your stay in Manila and put a smile on your face...:)I have the same feeling like above for my very 1st trip to LA cafe. I went into the ground floor, too smoky, average to poor looking chicks, too crowded. I probably lasted for 10 min and headed out.

But, the more I read the posts here, the more I'm tempted to give it a 2nd chance. I did 2 weeks ago. I went straight to 1st floor. The gals quality is much better. Gals also less aggressive. I got a 8/10 for that night, stay overnight but straight business. No regret but won't repeat her. 2nd night I got a very pretty young mother. Can tell she genuinely like me (maybe bcoz of alcohol). Some kissings and caressing while dancing. Tempted to take her but eventually a gal from Burgo turn up to meet me there at LA. She got me that night.

Now, I will say, LA cafe is reasonably good but only at 1st floor.

My 2 cents.

Gaijin Gigolo
10-25-08, 15:32
lol...you still remember me eh? coolio...I am indeed flattered. :-)

Point taken on the LA Cafe scene...your description sounds about like what I expect to find. I tend not to expect too much, then if it's better than I expect I'm pleasantly surprised.

But you're right....Cafe Havana seems more about what I'm looking for...our tastes seem to be pretty similar, you're right. Will check out the Malate location too and see if it compares to the one in Greenbelt 3.

Thanks for the input brudder! ;-)






Gaijin,

I think I understand some of your tastes from our exchanges on the Singapore board about 18 months or so ago. In my view, you will love La Havana Makati (Makati Greenbelt 3) -- pretty high-end people, feeling of the 'hunt', a mix of regular girls and FL's etc. LA Cafe etc are very very low end pick-up joints, I went there once, as soon as I stepped in I stepped out, it was a ghastly experience. I may get flamed for saying so, fair enough, but this place is really low-end, no sense of 'hunting' at all, dirty, smokey, full of fat 50+ year olds who can't get laid in the West etc. Not to mention that when you bring back one of those hardcore pro's to your hotel room, you'd better be careful at not getting stolen, i think I read quite a few stories on this board. These are hard-core pros...

Anyway, enjoy MNL, it's paradise. IMHO La Havana is outstanding.
I am here on business and I have to say meetings get in the way - LOL.

Gaijin Gigolo
10-25-08, 15:39
Thanks again Wicked for the contacts...will surely give them a call not long after I settle in. I checked the pix too...very nice indeed. I'll definitely spend some time in all of the venues mentioned...I'd be forever kicking myself if I didn't allow myself the full tour. But yeah, I'm betting if Havana lives up to my expectations, that's where I'll end up most of the time.

On taxis...point taken. I'm staying at the Executive Plaza, so when I decide to go to Makati or even EDSA, I'd planned to walk back to the hotel or perhaps just Robinson's and take a cab from there. May not be any safer or less corrupt, but I've heard enough bad news about the cabbies that linger outside LA to avoid them alltogether.

Thanks again for the help!

GG




GG

I tend to agree with Mandiri despite bieng one of those 50+ guys :D But then I only like LBFMs so I dont care what the western ladies say or think

Posted earlier about LA Cafe and never been a great fan, prefer Havana Cafe, even the Starbucks next door has a few potentials as well

Also, taxis from LA Cafe late at night/early morning - see earlier posts as some go to Makati via the local areas where the police try and shake you down for a contribution to their favourite charity. So be careful with those immediately outside LA Cafe and make sure you tell them to take you the direct route via the main roads

Have fun, glad you got my PMs as they will also help your stay in Manila and put a smile on your face...:)

Buko Max
10-25-08, 19:37
Cafe Havana seems more about what I'm looking for...our tastes seem to be pretty similar, you're right. Will check out the Malate location too and see if it compares to the one in Greenbelt 3.
Checked the place out last night (Friday night) around midnight and I don't see what all the fuss is about. Small bar with an even smaller dance floor. The men outnumbered the women three to one. Older crowd including the women. Luckily I had my smokin' hot date 'Short Stuff' with me. We had a round of mojitos, danced a few numbers since the band was good and headed out to sample some of the other places of Malate; report to follow.

Gaijin Gigolo
10-25-08, 20:08
Thanks Mattrick...sounds like the Malate version isn't quite the same scence as the one in Makati, but then I guess that's to be expected maybe. Will scope it out and report back as well.


Checked the place out last night (Friday night) around midnight and I don't see what all the fuss is about. Small bar with an even smaller dance floor. The men outnumbered the women three to one. Older crowd including the women. Luckily I had my smokin' hot date 'Short Stuff' with me. We had a round of mojitos, danced a few numbers since the band was good and headed out to sample some of the other places of Malate; report to follow.

Flying Saucer
10-25-08, 20:53
The nice thing about Makati unlike Manila is Makati is smoke free. I am not trying to get into a pro/con debate on smoking. I personally don't go to smoking establishments. Cafe Havana even outside is pretty stank with smoking including a lot of cigars.

Conways in the Shangrala has no smoking since it is an high end hotel (the girls are too damn pricy and most of them ancient and again 45+).

Hard Rock has a smoking area you can avoid but the girls tend to hang there (they tend to be OLD 45+ and cater to the really old expat crowd).

All the bars on P Borgs allow smoking. As a bar owner said to me "if some drunk wants to throw away hundreds of dollars on drinks and girls he is more than welcome to smoke. "

And remember if you have a really drunk friend, sit him at a table near the stairs at Cafe Havan. See if he hits on the lady boys.

Dan Hawaii
10-25-08, 20:58
Gaijin,

I think I understand some of your tastes from our exchanges on the Singapore board about 18 months or so ago. In my view, you will love La Havana Makati (Makati Greenbelt 3) -- pretty high-end people, feeling of the 'hunt', a mix of regular girls and FL's etc. LA Cafe etc are very very low end pick-up joints, I went there once, as soon as I stepped in I stepped out, it was a ghastly experience. I may get flamed for saying so, fair enough, but this place is really low-end, no sense of 'hunting' at all, dirty, smokey, full of fat 50+ year olds who can't get laid in the West etc. Not to mention that when you bring back one of those hardcore pro's to your hotel room, you'd better be careful at not getting stolen, i think I read quite a few stories on this board. These are hard-core pros...

Anyway, enjoy MNL, it's paradise. IMHO La Havana is outstanding.
I am here on business and I have to say meetings get in the way - LOL.
I have to agree with you Mandiri, it is a totally different crowd. La Cafe reminds me of the "old wild wild west". Out there in a smokey saloon drinking it up with skanky girls. Sometimes you can find a gem in all that smoke, but most of them are just wild and untamed. If you like that kind of wild girls that are aimed to please and you want to do it animal style, then this is the place to go. Just act like a wild beast, dress like a bum, and get into a drunken stupor and girls will flock to you. ;)

Greenbelt 3 is more of the upper class area, where fine dinning and civilized people hang out. It will cost you a pretty penny to play here, but girls are more civilized and subtle. So you need to put on your game face over here and dress to kill.

Just remember, anyplace you go, they are all pros, so don't fall in love. hahaha.

Dan Hawaii
10-25-08, 21:23
Another tip about police, do not drink alcohol beverages on the street, they will take you in and then you need to bribe them.

I think my favorite place to monger in Manila was Edsa and the food is pretty good here. You should make this first on your list. It is kind of on the higher end of the pricing, but well worth it. Costs varies:

Bar Fine is around 1200 to 1400 peso
Girls
Short term from 2000 to 3000
Long term from 2500 to 3500

You get to bring them back to your hotel. Expect to pay around 5000 pesos for several hours of play here. Girl quality is around 5-8 here.

Another place is Rojas Blvd, Asian Entertainment or East Asia. These places have good quality girls, some very hot. You just buy ladies drinks per hour, I think they were 400 pesos per hour, I'm not sure, I forgot. Then you can bone down with the girl in-house, they have ktv rooms for rent that they use to bone down. I forgot the pricing, but it was quite reasonable because the quality is top notch. The secret to this place is to negotiate with the mommy and to get in and out fast, cause the ladies drinks do rack up. You can get away with spending less than 4000 pesos for couple of hours of fun and a bone down session with a hot girl. The food in these places sucks, and are very over priced. Girl quality here is 6-9 here. Try to get a managers name before you enter these places, so they will waive the entrance fee. I think one manager's name at Asian Entertainment is Johnny. Anyone knows any managers at these places?

Puerto La Cruz
10-25-08, 21:37
Gotta problem with that Dan Tanna?

GFY

Emale
10-25-08, 23:02
Another tip about police, do not drink alcohol beverages on the street, they will take you in and then you need to bribe them.

I think my favorite place to monger in Manila was Edsa and the food is pretty good here. You should make this first on your list. It is kind of on the higher end of the pricing, but well worth it. Costs varies:

Bar Fine is around 1200 to 1400 peso
Girls
Short term from 2000 to 3000
Long term from 2500 to 3500

You get to bring them back to your hotel. Expect to pay around 5000 pesos for several hours of play here. Girl quality is around 5-8 here.

Another place is Rojas Blvd, Asian Entertainment or East Asia. These places have good quality girls, some very hot. You just buy ladies drinks per hour, I think they were 400 pesos per hour, I'm not sure, I forgot. Then you can bone down with the girl in-house, they have ktv rooms for rent that they use to bone down. I forgot the pricing, but it was quite reasonable because the quality is top notch. The secret to this place is to negotiate with the mommy and to get in and out fast, cause the ladies drinks do rack up. You can get away with spending less than 4000 pesos for couple of hours of fun and a bone down session with a hot girl. The food in these places sucks, and are very over priced. Girl quality here is 6-9 here. Try to get a managers name before you enter these places, so they will waive the entrance fee. I think one manager's name at Asian Entertainment is Johnny. Anyone knows any managers at these places?

Hmmmmmm........some questionable information here Dano. You forgot to tell GG to bring some antibacterial spray for the couch in the private KTV room. You got to be able to kill the germs from the previous couple that just "knocked one off" on the same couch an hour before you.

Mandiri
10-26-08, 07:43
Hey. Came to think of a couple of (practical) addiitonal tips for you:

(i) if you are bored in singapore and prior to your visit to MNL, hit the dating web-sites and line up a couple of friendly contacts. Always good to have a 'welcoming committee' upon arrival. I arrived the other day in Makati and had my "date in asia" date come over at 5pm to my hotel lobby. After a quick drink by the pool, we went to my room and at 5.45pm I was getting a fantastic BBBJ in the comfort of the couch in my bedroom ! I felt I was a porn star. She wants more banging from me now but in the past 2 days I have amassed so many contacts locally here in the field that I am unable to find any time to meet her again. That's sad because she's got huge rack and great BJ skills...
Note: do not hit the dating website too early, otherwise they will think you are coming to manila to marry them (LOL and true) ! Max 1 week prior to your arrival here will be just fine.


(ii) bring over a basic handphone: upon arrival, buy a local SIM card and local number. Girls here do not possess a fortune hence you want a local number to text your contacts back and forth -- they are reluctant to text to an overseas h/p number as the cost of texting to a say Singapore cell number is much higher.
Within 24 hours here you will have gathered contacts and phone numbers left and right and centre, having a local SIM will be therefore very useful.


Lastly, bring a backpack full of condoms, you'll need them. I do not know how expacts based here in the Phil's do to get any work done here, it's non-stop shagging!


Finally, once the deed is done, be kind enough to post your reports for the reading benefit & delight of the ISG community.

Have fun!

Your Truly

Hairy Wonder
10-26-08, 09:48
(ii) bring over a basic handphone: upon arrival, buy a local SIM card and local number. Girls here do not possess a fortune hence you want a local number to text your contacts back and forth -- they are reluctant to text to an overseas h/p number as the cost of texting to a say Singapore cell number is much higher.
Within 24 hours here you will have gathered contacts and phone numbers left and right and centre, having a local SIM will be therefore very useful.

Fellow Mongerers,

I found a web site called Chikka.com (hopefully that is allowed by Jackson) for sending and receiving text messages. I use it to send to my girl in the PI all the time. When she replies to me, it only costs her 2 Pesos. This is a great savings for her (and me) compared to a text to my Korean phone normally costs her 15 Pesos. Of course, being in Korea, I cannot receive her Chikka texts on my phone without it costing much more. I have to be near an Internet connected computer to utilize the Chikka service. But I believe in the rest of Asia (which seems to not be as technologically backward as Korea) the messages can be cheaply relayed to the cell phone. It's not perfect, but it's something you might want to check into if you want your girls to be able to reach out and touch you without having to pay and arm and a leg for it.

Happy Mongering!

HW

Yella Man
10-26-08, 12:08
Hey. Came to think of a couple of (practical) addiitonal tips for you:
(ii) bring over a basic handphone: upon arrival, buy a local SIM card and local number. Girls here do not possess a fortune hence you want a local number to text your contacts back and forth -- they are reluctant to text to an overseas h/p number as the cost of texting to a say Singapore cell number is much higher.
Within 24 hours here you will have gathered contacts and phone numbers left and right and centre, having a local SIM will be therefore very useful.

Have fun!

Your Truly


Make sure the phone you bring is a tri-band/quad-band phone otherwise it won't work in the pi. You can pick up a used cell phone in the pi for around $30. Well worth the money!

Yella Man

Michi
10-26-08, 16:40
hi,

it never ceses to amaze me how this country works and how those sweet girls are working in those jiobs!

went on friday. was just two hours out of the plane and already in bed with a sweety from la. chubby, but so service oriented!

go in, get approached, ask for a friend that has your spec and shag!

amazing. sweet, good service, no hurry, sexy, all kind of styles around, 1500, because she was just great!

evening: first go to aplace i went before in traders. girls nice, but bother you. ok, their job. then go to edsa entertainment, no connection. go to burgos raycal or something. get practically raped on the sofa. after 30 min she asked: did you cum already? sayang, nothing left for me later! sexy, good attitude, sweet, but: the bill is trouble. they do overcharge, they try to not stick to the agreement for ewr, they try to get more. just left and got rid of it, even i lost money.

flamingos. never a miss: great nice girls that will chat, kiss, touch, get touched, kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss, . and: honest place.

go back, no sleep with the girl, just have to keep going with her.

saturday: wake up late, a lot of more shagging in the room before she leaves me 2000peso richer, but worth it.

manila. nothing to do. la cafe again. 30 min: bang, go back and have some more fun. how come there is always a sweet one more?

evening: edsa: meet a great girl in firehouse. look at her, she smiles, i am sold, she is sold, we have some drinks and leave.

very sweet, normally having japanese, now a german. nice experience to have that porn experience from the jap movies yourself. first girl that evr was on topo shagging me like crazy and still sucking my nipples, because she was really short. after the deed she complained about the ex bf from japan who was cheating o her. after a lot of understanding from my side: gfe, gfe, gfe, gfe the whole night!

sunday: wake up too early and get a flight out still being weak on the legs. this country sucks, but i love the girls!

mike

Scuba 1972
10-26-08, 18:03
Just a little advice on pick ups at Expos:

1. Phone - follow the advice of the other mongers and get a local SIM card.

2. Don't give a pick up target your business card as it can lead to complications later if she turns out to be clingy.

3. Either say you ran out and just give her your local number or get a alter ego set before you arrive. The latter is a bit more complicated so i always choose the former.

4. Do a bit of discreet flirting first to see what sort of character she is and also to figure out if she is into fun or 'relationships'. Also to firgure out she does not have some local jealous Filipino boyfriend.

I had one buddy some time back who picked one up - and ended up having an irate jealous boyfriend follow her to his hotel. Luckily security helped him out. But some girls have a crap local boyfriend/husband and are looking for a fling. Thats ok if the guy is overseas - bit of problem if he is still around.

Dan Hawaii
10-27-08, 18:35
Here is the band you need for the Philippines:
GSM 900/1800 2 carriers
GSM 900 1 carrier
GSM 1800 1 carrier

A prepaid Philippines SIM card with an international cell phone is the most convenient and economical solution for staying in touch while you travel in the Philippines. All incoming calls while you travel in the Philippines are FREE, regardless of where they originate. The Philippines SIM card provides service across the Philippines through domestic roaming. Pay the local rate for local calls and use a cellular phone in the Philippines like you do at home. And unlike home, your Philippines SIM card and cell phone service is prepaid so there is no need for a contract.

And remember that the phone needs to be unlocked, either your carrier can unlock it for you, or you need to go to the black market to have it done.

The talk time costs are more expensive compared to the USA. That is why many prefer texting, which only costs 1 pesos per text.


Make sure the phone you bring is a tri-band/quad-band phone otherwise it won't work in the pi. You can pick up a used cell phone in the pi for around $30. Well worth the money!

Yella Man

Robbaf
10-27-08, 22:02
And remember that the phone needs to be unlocked, either your carrier can unlock it for you, or you need to go to the black market to have it done.
The talk time costs are more expensive compared to the USA. That is why many prefer texting, which only costs 1 pesos per text.
Good information DH. The only thing that I will add is: any cell phone booth, in any mall, can unlock your cell and the going price is 250P - 500P depending on the model.
Also, if you load a 500P pre-paid card you get 85 free texts vs. a 300P pre-paid card only 35 free texts.

Robb

FreebieFan
10-28-08, 02:46
Intriguing headline huh. Just back from a great exhausting weekend again in Manila. Had my regular come down for her 3rd weekend with me (think will set a budget of 5 weekends with her and then time to chase again).

Maybe I'm old and jaded this young kid 23, who won't say no to any of my requests really does it for me. As follows.

She has a 3 hour bus ride to get to me, we arrange to meet in a mall. Sweet, shes never late. But about 15 minutes before the appoined time a gal I've ben chatting with says shes in the vicinity. Chance for a first meet and good investment.

Tell province gal to wait 30 minutes for me. She obliges.

New one was nice smart and funny and will work well on another trip.

Meanwhile province girl and I meet. Within 3 minutes literally shes sucking me on McKinley road leading to Edsa.

Arrive in Makati hotel, All other guests looking at this tall skinny girl with long hair, very short shorts, very long legs and high heels. Get to room, then she dissapears into bathroom and comes back in schoolgirl outfit. Even did the hair in pigtails.

Well I put her in a chair, put a blindfold on she doesn't know what I'm doing next and basically molest the heck out of her. Shes loving it and so am I. Camera is taking lots of pics and vids and were really enjoying. Her legs wide open. Panties down to her ankles. Maxiumum joy.

Id bought a small japanese style vibrator (only about size of a thumb) and using this on her. Also loving it. Eventually I undress her.

Well on last trip Id enterered her anally which shed enjoyed. This time, having undressed her, she takes my dick and inserts it in her ass. Says she'd been waiting long time to do that. Says its her most favourite thing now.

Well we then have a long session, give her some tequila and I drink tequila and lime juice all over her body.

Then I take a break. Mate is out in Burgos and so I go have a few beers with him leaving her in room. I'm out for 2 hours.

When I walk back in room shes in her high heels, rd stocking, red suspender belt that Id bought for her. Magic! Another long session follows.

Wake up late, with a morning bang. Off for breakfast, then put all the pics Id taken of her on her memory stick, then we head for Sogo. She likes the mirrors.

Time for a new game. On arrival in Sogo, I made her wait in the little area between entrance door and door to bedroom. Turn off all the lights.

Dragged her into the dark bedroom, litterally pull her shorts down, and enter her. Tell her theres two other guys in the room. She fucks me harder.

Anyway after all that, lights go on, she knew there was no one else but says she was excited by the thought. We have a good few hours there and shes happy wearing the black suspender and stockings I got for her.

Ok. From there we go have something to eat. And everytime waitress not looking got my hands in her pants.

Back to the room and she says its her turn to play a game.

So now I'm blindfolded. And she comes into room, undresses me, gives me a spanking (hmm am I supposed to like this? ) fingers my ass. (hmm wh are you doing this honey! ). Then gives me a wonderful twenty minute ass rimming. I do like THIS!

She eventually positions herself on top of me. Takes off my blindfold and shes in her sexy secretary outfit, black skirt. White shirt, red high heels and fake glasses. Even hair tied in a bun. Looked great. Nice imagination girl.

More tequila, more sex, more pussy and ass sex. By now tired.

Sleep, in a. M. More sex and we hit the magical number 40 orgasms. Last trip was only 30 apparently. Shes been counting. Breakfast then drop her off at bus station and I'm really tired.

Go to mall and meet a DIA lady Id been talking to. Just as an investment for next trip.

Altho some more fantasies with province girl could still be played out. My creative mind thinking of a few more.

Great tiring exhausting weekend. I'm at work resting now LOL.

Manila Magic!

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FreebieFan
10-28-08, 04:06
I hadnt told any of my regulars that I was going to Manila last weekend. So imagine my suprise when I get an sms from a young lady I know on Sunday suggesting that I "sleep well" didn't have any missed calls so know idea whether she was guessing.

Next day got an sms from another lady asking me " Am I in Phils now" and could I see her later that day". Again I hadnt told her I was going there and had no miss calls. Strange and strange.

Noguera
10-28-08, 04:13
Guy, please don’t give me the “RTFF”. I’ve gone back a ways on the Manila thread and can’t find the answer I am looking for.

Is there a nice ST hotel within walking distance from the LA Café? I am in Makati every month but have never sampled the love of the hunt at the LA Café. Further, I don’t want to go through the time or the hassle to haul my catch all the way back to Makati for a few hours. I would prefer a 5 minute walk to a nearby, decent, ST hotel (stop-and-bop) and spend a couple of hours there.

Can anyone help?

TGAM

Braven
10-28-08, 06:18
Looking to get ahold of 4 tabs or so. Don't have prescription with me. If anyone can help please pm me. I'm in Pasig/Ortigas area now. Will be in cebu next week.

Cheers

Professor10
10-28-08, 15:48
FreebieFan,

That sounds like an outstanding weekend you had with your province girl. You certainly 'trained' her right - she has learned quite a bit and has some sophistifacted clothes and 'props' for a province girl. Not many city girls would be as 'talented' as her. Great job in this report - you are one lucky guy to have her.

Brown Rail
10-28-08, 17:07
Guy, please don’t give me the “RTFF”. I’ve gone back a ways on the Manila thread and can’t find the answer I am looking for.

Is there a nice ST hotel within walking distance from the LA Café? I am in Makati every month but have never sampled the love of the hunt at the LA Café. Further, I don’t want to go through the time or the hassle to haul my catch all the way back to Makati for a few hours. I would prefer a 5 minute walk to a nearby, decent, ST hotel (stop-and-bop) and spend a couple of hours there.

Can anyone help?

TGAMNo problem as there are many choices. You can always ask your girl, as they all know them. The easiest is the hotel at Amazonia, accross the street and one block down towards Padre Fawer. Go into the Amazonia bar and back towards the right, you will see stairs. Go up two flights to the check in desk. In a pinch they sell condoms too.

They have short term with air con for about P600 and with fan only for P400.

They also do over night, I think it is P1, 400, but I have not tried and may be the same spartan rooms.

There is also a Sogo not so far away, the girls will know it.

Is it decent? LOL report back.

Manfest
10-28-08, 18:47
Guy, please don’t give me the “RTFF”. I’ve gone back a ways on the Manila thread and can’t find the answer I am looking for.

Is there a nice ST hotel within walking distance from the LA Café? I am in Makati every month but have never sampled the love of the hunt at the LA Café. Further, I don’t want to go through the time or the hassle to haul my catch all the way back to Makati for a few hours. I would prefer a 5 minute walk to a nearby, decent, ST hotel (stop-and-bop) and spend a couple of hours there.--cut--

Agree with BrownRail, Amazonia is the absolute closest, but very... economical. Best thing when you are hot and heavy in need of release. Sogo is much nicer, but on weekends is very busy and probably have to wait. By noon on Saturday or Sunday, there is a whole couples seating area for you to wait with all the other horny kids. If it is the first time to Sogo, ask for the discount card.

Brown Rail
10-28-08, 18:53
Gaijin,

I think I understand some of your tastes from our exchanges on the Singapore board about 18 months or so ago. In my view, you will love La Havana Makati (Makati Greenbelt 3) -- pretty high-end people, feeling of the 'hunt', a mix of regular girls and FL's etc. LA Cafe etc are very very low end pick-up joints, I went there once, as soon as I stepped in I stepped out, it was a ghastly experience. I may get flamed for saying so, fair enough, but this place is really low-end, no sense of 'hunting' at all, dirty, smokey, full of fat 50+ year olds who can't get laid in the West etc. Not to mention that when you bring back one of those hardcore pro's to your hotel room, you'd better be careful at not getting stolen, i think I read quite a few stories on this board. These are hard-core pros...

Anyway, enjoy MNL, it's paradise. IMHO La Havana is outstanding.
I am here on business and I have to say meetings get in the way - LOL.Let me begin by saying that I am a big fan of LA Café, and I think that the guys who talk about the quality of girls there being low somehow are not seeing the place. Maybe they are overwhelmed or intimidated, or maybe hit it at a bad time. Though I did not now that there was a bad time. And did not hang around or explore long enough. For at LA, there is something for everyone.

I have been going years and still enjoy it. The first time I went, some years ago, I was still terrified of walking the streets of Ermita at night. My friends who knew better told me how dangerous, avoid it (a bit like Tondo now, but that is another story). I would lock the taxi doors as I drove though (come to think of it I still do). I was used to buying drinks in the safety of P Burgos happy in the knowledge that my P3, 500 bar fine and P2, 000 tip bought me physical safety, a working license with medical checkup (ya right) and the highest "quality" girl. How naive I was.

But I always felt like there should be more to the experience. More adrenalin, a more feral experience, no rules, no limits, anything goes. And I did not want to just find a girl and fuck. I wanted a night out. I started in Malate, walked Adriatico then I found Ermita Now I fear nothing. And those guys who told me to stay away, they now ask to join.

Seriously how can you describe a trip to LA Café night? It is about eight experiences in one:

During the day you can always go, even mornings, hang at the bar or play pool – beginners welcome. Join the girls at a table. Meet another punter at the bar. You can get laid with no effort and cheaply or just hang out. The food is passable. Afternoon baked goods are great.

Later in the evening downstairs gets really crowded and smoky. You can still play pool in the main room, but the [small time] hustlers come, and even the girls playing get sharper. Still there are lots of cute girls and some stunners mixed in. There are also some really past there sell-by date or in the wrong business. These are the ones who will come up to you first. Be nice and keep walking. No problem.

If it gets too crowded you can move to the back room. The pool table is dominated by cute young girls. They are happy to play and sometimes beat you, happier still if you take them home. Just smile and a cutie will say Hi.

In the evening upstairs opens, and stays open to the wee hours. The bands there range from ok to quite good, mostly rock and roll. Freddy Angular plays a few times a month (but more often down the street at Hobbit House). But they are among the best rock and roll bands in Manila (which has the best in Asia). For some reason the other bars all seem to be moving toward show tunes and Abba. Which I am not into. Even Cowboy Grill, with its Marlboro Men, once the temple of rock and roll, has recently allowed Barry Manalow tunes to be heard. A shame really). It costs P100 to go upstairs, P150 on weekends when the bands seem to be the best. The girls upstairs seem to be a bit higher quality as they too have to pay the cover. But the same girls also circulate down stairs, just mixed in. In the back there are two further pool tables. Frequently you will find girls hanging out back there looking for someone to "play" with.

If you head over to the other side, and watch the uneven floor as you pass, there are all these young looking girls hanging out. They give me funny looks but never seem too interested. One day I will stop to ask. To your left on the other side of the long bar is another pool table. This one tends to be taken by the hour rather than by challenge, but not always. To your right are lots of tables. Some have just girls. Some have just Asian guys (Korean? Japanese? ). Some have both. Past this is another pool table, usually girls playing the Asian guys. Past this, hidden in the corner is another more private pool table. Why this whole area seems to belong to Asian guys is a mystery.

So, as I see it, first floor front room girls are all types and aggressive. In the back room younger girls and more passive. Upstairs near the band better looking slightly more experienced. In the middle of the room and on the other side from the band, seems girls looking for Asian Men. Or maybe I have it all wrong.

The costs of the girls should be P1, 000 short time and days, P500 if you are tight or bottom fishing and P1, 500 all night. Often I will hear girls ask for P2, 000 or even P3, 000, but they are taking a flyer. Better to offer P1, 500, walk away if she says no, she will come back, then tip her if she is great.

Other observations:

It seems to me that the prices of drinks has gone up quite a bit recently. It would not be unusual now to pay P200 for a mixed drink. I don’t remember that before.

There does seem to be some divide between the western men and the Asian men. The middle eastern men cross all sides. And the girls seem to specialize. I guess it is a language thing.

Upstairs toilets don’t have running water. The bucket it in, so it is a bit weird. You have to wonder how clean those hot towels are.

Oh, I almost forgot. The reason I started to write, the quality of the girls in LA versus elsewhere. I have been exploring manila, and elsewhere in the Philippines, for quite a few years (decades? ) now. Locally I have enjoyed Burgos, the hotel bars, Jupiter, Gloretta, Roxas Blvd, Edsa Entertainment, Malate, Ermita, Greenbelt, Paranaque, etc. I have even had local friends bring me to QC (though I still don’t get QC). The quality of the girls is higher in some places and lower in others, but all working girls end up at LA Café at some point. I have spent too much money on drinks in the Burgos bars, then later gone to LA later and seen the same girls. I have hung out at Café Havana in Greenbelt and then gone later to LA, same girls. Hell I have spent next to nothing on girls in Puerto Gallera, Subic City and Angeles, and then met the same girls at LA. Basically if a girl is working and smart, she figures out LA Café. So if she does not score where she works, she will on occasion end head off to LA. (The only exceptions are the girls who are really just out for a good time, not working. You won’t find them at LA, but might in the hotels, Jupiter, Malate, etc.)

So if someone tells you he prefers higher end bars, because the girls are different, he either has not look well enough at LA or is not paying attention. On any Saturday night 500 girls must pass through. If you can’t pull your GFE there you are not really trying.

Did I ramble?

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Noguera
10-29-08, 03:23
I frequently have lunch or dinner with my Japanese partners in the area known as Little Tokyo in Manila. Little Tokyo is like a one block square, small compound area near Makati, and it includes maybe a dozen different Japanese restaurants. Last Friday night I went to dinner with several friends whom are Japanese ex-pats living in Manila. Between getting out of the car and the entrance to one of the nicer restaurants; there were probably 9-12 Filipina working girls at around 7:00 in the evening. These girls were much cuter than your normal street girl. They were obviously in this locale working for Japanese businessmen to pick them up. Can anyone tell me more about these Little Tokyo girls? Has anyone ever picked one up? They looked pretty good.

TGAM

FreebieFan
10-29-08, 07:45
I frequently have lunch or dinner with my Japanese partners in the area known as Little Tokyo in Manila. Little Tokyo is like a one block square, small compound area near Makati, and it includes maybe a dozen different Japanese restaurants. Last Friday night I went to dinner with several friends whom are Japanese ex-pats living in Manila. Between getting out of the car and the entrance to one of the nicer restaurants; there were probably 9-12 Filipina working girls at around 7:00 in the evening. These girls were much cuter than your normal street girl. They were obviously in this locale working for Japanese businessmen to pick them up. Can anyone tell me more about these Little Tokyo girls? Has anyone ever picked one up? They looked pretty good.

TGAMWell I cant tell if they are totally available for the "white guy" but I have a Japanese friend who goes there often and he seems to always go home with a smile on his face.

Also, theres a singer in one of the restaurants. And lets just say she and I used to be VERY close.

FreebieFan
10-29-08, 07:50
Appreciate the appreciation Sir.

Yes, weekends with this bubbly little lady are something else.

One thing I didnt add in my original report ( and Im not here to gross you out guys) is that she wanted me to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on her. Not just a sprinkle here and there either.
So we were in Sogo, in Exec room that has large bathroom and she got on floor and asked me to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) all over her. Yeah ..not my finest moment but she got a thrill out of it.

Meanwhile, why is it that we seek perfection and then when we find it, start chasing the next likely target. I realyl like this gal, and theres nothing she wont do with me.. but already I can feel I have to move onto other targets.

Anyways your right, she now has a good collection of suspender belts and stocking black white and red, and some nice trashy negligees.. black white an red ..and high heels in same colours, and crotchless panties in the same Dont think Ive actually bought her anything normal like a t shirt yet LOL!

GoodEnough
10-29-08, 12:12
Little Tokyo is on Chino Roces (formerly Pasong Tamo) just down the street from Makati Cinema Square. It's reputed to have the best Japanese restaurants in town and I believe it. Every time I've eaten there, the food has been excellent. Just to the right of the square there's a KTV catering to Japanese and the entrance is normally clogged with young, pretty Filipinas. They're the only ones I've ever seen in the area who are obviously available and eager to connect. I've been invited by the girls to go inside the place but always declined, figuring that if it's catering to the Japanese it's likely to be expensive.

GE

Marconista
10-29-08, 12:28
I posted this some time back:

for u: http://www.victoriacourt.biz/latest/index.htm

and also SoHotel in Malate, but I can not find their homepage.
However - this is the info from MTC:

SOHOTEL Room types and rates

3 hours stay/ 12 hours stay/ 24 hours stay:

Mini-standard - 399 (no 12 and 24 hours allowed)
Standard - 500+/ 800/ 1,200
Standard with Glow - 500+/ 830/ 1,250
Deluxe (w/ & w/out garage) - 700+/ 1,100/ 1,600
Deluxe with bathtub - 800+/ 1,150/ 1,680
Deluxe with jacuzzi - 800+/ 1,300/ 1,850
Suite - 1,300+/ 1,950/ 2,650
VIP suite - 1,700+/ 2,350/ 3,200

*Massage service for P500 (Call 30 mins before desired time, strictly massage only)
*24 hour room service and service car available
*Free breakfast for 24 hours staying guests from 6am to 9am
(Pls call operator for the breakfast choices. Not from the menu)

Address: 2016 M.H. del Pilar st. Malate, Manila
Phone nos: 521-4341 to 44

So Hip, So You, SOHOTEL!

And now I found a link to the SoHoTel as well, although the prices on their website is not short-time rates:

http://www.sohotelmalate.com/index.php


Guy, please don’t give me the “RTFF”. I’ve gone back a ways on the Manila thread and can’t find the answer I am looking for.

Is there a nice ST hotel within walking distance from the LA Café? I am in Makati every month but have never sampled the love of the hunt at the LA Café. Further, I don’t want to go through the time or the hassle to haul my catch all the way back to Makati for a few hours. I would prefer a 5 minute walk to a nearby, decent, ST hotel (stop-and-bop) and spend a couple of hours there.

Can anyone help?

TGAM

Michi
10-29-08, 17:13
I hadnt told any of my regulars that I was going to Manila last weekend. So imagine my suprise when I get an sms from a young lady I know on Sunday suggesting that I "sleep well" didn't have any missed calls so know idea whether she was guessing.

Next day got an sms from another lady asking me " Am I in Phils now" and could I see her later that day". Again I hadnt told her I was going there and had no miss calls. Strange and strange.It is very, very impressive how the PGN works (philippine girls network).

Somehow they know each other in the whole world. You are known to one, they all know what you are doing!

Still fun though.

Heve fun,

Mike

Bob Bowie
10-29-08, 19:17
It is very, very impressive how the PGN works (philippine girls network).
Somehow they know each other in the whole world. You are known to one, they all know what you are doing!!!!
........... still fun though......
Heve fun,
Mike
So many of my preferred girls (ages 20-27) work or hang out at the same 2 or 3 American style malls. At work they are standing on their feet for 12 hours a day, staring at all of the people that walk by. The white dudes are bound to stand out from the crowd, and next thing you know, they are texting everyone they know.

A girl in Bislig found out I was walking around with another girl in the Mall of Asia in Manila. I am still not sure how she found out, she only had one picture of me from my CB profile.

Now they also have cameras on their cell, so it is hard to deny it was you.

Lustforthrust
10-29-08, 20:48
I posted this some time back:


for u: http://www.victoriacourt.biz/latest/index.htm




Hey, that Felicity Suite looks good. There were some fantastic pictures taken on that staircase posted here sometime ago.

Has anyone stayed there? Looks like a pretty good deal at about $85.
How does it compare with the Hyatt? Anyone?

Simple Weekend
10-29-08, 21:22
Hello All,

I will be in The Philippines this November. This is going to be a totally new experience for me.

Will be there for work. Dont know how much time I will have for mongering.

Is Lipa a good place to monger? Thats where I am going.

Any information and help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Asian Guy 2020
10-30-08, 11:58
Hi Guys,

I'm going to stop over in the Ermita area for a couple of days in December. Just wondering if anyone has any hotel recomendations? Also, what's the best or closest spot from that area to get some action?

Thanks!

AG2020

Fast Eddie 48
10-30-08, 16:28
Hi Guys,

I'm going to stop over in the Ermita area for a couple of days in December. Just wondering if anyone has any hotel recomendations? Also, what's the best or closest spot from that area to get some action?

Thanks!

AG2020AG2020,

Why don't you go to the Manila hotel thread and do some study to find your need.

Fast eddie 48

Key Master
10-30-08, 21:46
I'm going to stop over in the Ermita area for a couple of days in December. Just wondering if anyone has any hotel recomendations? Also, what's the best or closest spot from that area to get some action?

Welcome to the board first off. You may not know better but it's not usually recommended for anyone to just come in on a thread and post questions that have been answered or talked about numerously already. You definitely came to a great message board so you are in the right place. Below this post is a ton of information that will definitely be of help to you. Pages and pages really. As you got here on your own before you clicked on the Manila thread there is also a hotels thread here in the Philippines section for Manila Hotels. If you didn't know, Ermita is really part of Manila. There are lots of other threads that might interest you like Makati, General Info, and Angeles City that might be of interest to you. So read for a long while is my recommendation. That's a very polite way of saying RTFF.

Noguera
10-31-08, 03:33
I am intrigued by the little bit mentioned here on the MP, Phoenix One which is in a hotel called Roman Suites. Some one says this is immediately behind the Renaissance (Marriott) Hotel. Can anyone give a more detailed account of the procedures at this place; the quality of the girls; just more detailed information? Place sounds interesting if you are already staying at the Renaissance.

TGAM

Horntoad
10-31-08, 04:11
I am intrigued by the little bit mentioned here on the MP, Phoenix One which is in a hotel called Roman Suites. Some one says this is immediately behind the Renaissance (Marriott) Hotel. Can anyone give a more detailed account of the procedures at this place; the quality of the girls; just more detailed information? Place sounds interesting if you are already staying at the Renaissance.

TGAM

Phoenix One is on the third floor of Roman Suites. Once you get into the hotel, walk up the stairs directly across from the front desk. Once you are on the second floor, look to your left and their is another set of stairs that will take you up to the third floor. The price is 1200p before 6pm and 1400p after 6pm for the room. The price for the girl is 1500p but sometimes they will ask for a little more. I usually just give 1500p afterwards without asking how much and haven't had any complaints. There usually are more girls after 5pm but I have always gone in the afternoon because I'm usually at EDSA or LA Cafe at night.

Mandiri
10-31-08, 05:59
Let me begin by saying that I am a big fan of LA Café, and I think that the guys who talk about the quality of girls there being low somehow are not seeing the place. Maybe they are overwhelmed or intimidated, or maybe hit it at a bad time. Though I did not now that there was a bad time. And did not hang around or explore long enough. For at LA, there is something for everyone..

Other observations:

It seems to me that the prices of drinks has gone up quite a bit recently. It would not be unusual now to pay P200 for a mixed drink. I don’t remember that before.

There does seem to be some divide between the western men and the Asian men. The middle eastern men cross all sides. And the girls seem to specialize. I guess it is a language thing.

Upstairs toilets don’t have running water. The bucket it in, so it is a bit weird. You have to wonder how clean those hot towels are.

Oh, I almost forgot. The reason I started to write, the quality of the girls in LA versus elsewhere. I have been exploring manila, and elsewhere in the Philippines, for quite a few years (decades? ) now. Locally I have enjoyed Burgos, the hotel bars, Jupiter, Gloretta, Roxas Blvd, Edsa Entertainment, Malate, Ermita, Greenbelt, Paranaque, etc. I have even had local friends bring me to QC (though I still don’t get QC). The quality of the girls is higher in some places and lower in others, but all working girls end up at LA Café at some point. I have spent too much money on drinks in the Burgos bars, then later gone to LA later and seen the same girls. I have hung out at Café Havana in Greenbelt and then gone later to LA, same girls. Hell I have spent next to nothing on girls in Puerto Gallera, Subic City and Angeles, and then met the same girls at LA. Basically if a girl is working and smart, she figures out LA Café. So if she does not score where she works, she will on occasion end head off to LA. (The only exceptions are the girls who are really just out for a good time, not working. You won’t find them at LA, but might in the hotels, Jupiter, Malate, etc.)

So if someone tells you he prefers higher end bars, because the girls are different, he either has not look well enough at LA or is not paying attention. On any Saturday night 500 girls must pass through. If you can’t pull your GFE there you are not really trying.

Did I ramble?

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.


Great report Brown Rail, thanks !
In fact, when i wrote my report, I should have mentioned that I know Gaijin Gigolo -just like me- is more into the hunt for what your call 'the girls who are really just out for a good time' vs the hard core pro's.

I have always scored at Havana Greenbelt free of charge because I have always focused on the 'the girls who are really just out for a good time'. I guess that's also why I am a big fan of Havana Greenbelt and feel LA Cafe is just a disgusting place -- again, matter of taste and frame of mind.

Having said that and havind read your report, i'll be happy to take a second look at LA :-)

Brown Rail
10-31-08, 07:03
Hello All,

I will be in The Philippines this November. This is going to be a totally new experience for me.

Will be there for work. Dont know how much time I will have for mongering.

Is Lipa a good place to monger? Thats where I am going.

Any information and help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.Hey Simple,

What will you be doing in Lipa? That looks a bit off the beaten path. You will be a bit far for a casual run to manila, maybe two hours dive depending on traffic. You can head up there for the weekend and stay in a cheap hotel P1-2, 000, if that is your budget.

If you want to really monger I suspect you will need to go to one of the bigger cities. Closest to you will be Manila. There are also some very rustic (and cheap) places I have been to in Batangas City. For a weekend you can go through there to Puerto Galera.

Else you are left to ferret about in the provinces. As a foreigner you will be very popular. But most provincial girls, when they are in the province, are quite shy and traditional. You will probably see a hesitation to be seen with you, especially alone. They may agree to meet, but will bring friends and relatives. This will last for a while till she gets comfortable or until you propose. Make friends with the local guys you work with, and get them to take you out.

Another good idea is to go on one of the dating sights and look for girls in your area. Filipinaheart is one the girls tell me they like. I have never tried it but it would be a good idea to get going on lining up local dates. Else it could be a long month.

How long will you be staying?

Brown Rail
10-31-08, 07:27
Great report Brown Rail, thanks !

In fact, when i wrote my report, I should have mentioned that I know Gaijin Gigolo -just like me- is more into the hunt for what your call 'the girls who are really just out for a good time' vs the hard core pro's.

I have always scored at Havana Greenbelt free of charge because I have always focused on the 'the girls who are really just out for a good time'. I guess that's also why I am a big fan of Havana Greenbelt and feel LA Cafe is just a disgusting place -- again, matter of taste and frame of mind.

Having said that and havind read your report, i'll be happy to take a second look at LA :-)Yes LA is discussing, it is definitely slumming, but that is part of its charm. With local friends we go out to the Shang or some of the spots on Jupiter like Strumms, Eastwood, upstairs at Greenbelt, etc. All very nice but a bit boring. But when I want women. LA is world class.

When I have been to Havana it seems most of the women there are working. They are sitting in groups outside, trying to catch your eye, or inside at the bar, trying to catch your eye. There are also some male dance instructors, and the women who they service. Some of the working girls are really beautiful, but I suspect expensive and too much of a prostitute experience for me. So I have not bothered. Some are passed their sell-by date, but all dressed up.

A few months ago I was there maybe 7 nights in two weeks. I was with a friend already so not hunting (and she was a bit uncomfortable because of all the working girls). But there was this one girl I spied who really caught me attention. Not all painted and dressed, but sort of fresh scrubbed Ivory girl. She looked a bit out of place and had lots of female friends around her. Anyway I fantasized about her while chatting attentively with my date. Well after I dropped my date off, I headed to LA. Guess who was there? With the same friends?

I saw her at Havana on maybe 3 of the nights, and at LA 2 of these. I have since seen her a few other times at LA. And her friends.

So there are lots of places where the girls are not working. But at Havana Greenbelt I would think you would have trouble separating the working majority from the not working but still desirable minority. No?

Simple Weekend
10-31-08, 21:37
Hey Brown Rail, thanks for filling me up.

Will be there for about 4 weeks. Lets see how it works out.

Reg Simple.

Snooky
11-01-08, 00:05
Anyone know of a reliable reasonable priced car service in Manila.

FreebieFan
11-03-08, 09:08
Anyone know of a reliable reasonable priced car service in Manila.There a garage near Ford showroom in Fort Bonifacio. A nice lady in very tight long pants who works there I recall. I got my car fixed there.. they were nice friendly and fast. CAnt remember place but theres a Shell gas station and its on other side of road of that, in Ft Bonifacio/Global city.

MrMorton
11-04-08, 05:51
Whats the best Philippines city for mongering? Looking for best quality and a fun time. I've been to Thailand over a dozen times but a PI virgin. I tend to go for go-go's in BKK because I find the best quality and I finesse the attitude. Also do Phuket over Pattaya because the quality of the town. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Asian Guy 2020
11-04-08, 09:41
AG2020,

Why don't you go to the Manila hotel thread and do some study to find your need.

Fast eddie 48Thanks Fast Eddie!

I didn't notice that until now.

Never been to Manila before!

ReallyaNiceGuy
11-04-08, 23:15
First stop was LA Café where I meet this little sweetheart, and her friend who was rather homely looking, around 10 PM Sunday. She was cool and could actually carry on a conversation beyond hi sir, what’s your name and where you from. LOL
She was fun so I decided to take her out, she asked for 1500 P for ST and 2000 P for LT. Acting like I didn’t know what that meant she said ST was 3 hours and LT was all night. All I had to do was question the 1500 P and she dropped it to 1200 P so off we went for the short walk to the hotel.
In the room she threw herself at me and planted a big wet passionate one on me, nice, very nice. She turned on the TV, found some music and started sexy dirty dancing and striped. Then she took a shower, we kissed some more, I took a shower and down to business. BBBJ, ball licking and sucking, licked my ass a few times, she put on the condom and climbed on. Several positions and I finished doggie.

We watched some TV while cuddling, she fell a sleep for about 30 minutes and then round 2, just a great as the first round. She showered and left.

Mike

Brown Rail
11-06-08, 03:11
whats the best philippines city for mongering? looking for best quality and a fun time. i've been to thailand over a dozen times but a pi virgin. i tend to go for go-go's in bkk because i find the best quality and i finesse the attitude. also do phuket over pattaya because the quality of the town. any help would be greatly appreciated.well it depends on what you want. the whole country can be a blast. it depends on what you are looking for.

angeles has the best combination of quantity, quality and price, but there is not much else there beyond the girls. that said, i have met guys who have moved their [semi]permanently and never regretted it. there must be more than 100 bars, depending on how you measure, in several neighborhoods. they offer everything from bikini dancers to take out for p1, 000 – no tip necessary though appreciated – to blow job bars, special shows, music, disco. but warning, they say not to pick up a girl on the street no matter what, no matter how old, no matter the deal. there is an ongoing scam with the police to bust foreigners with **** girls and hustle them for big bucks. even the hotels post warnings. personally i can spend a few days here, but then have to move on to some place with more than just girls.

manila is probably the clubbing capital of asia, if not the world. there are so many bars. there are lots with bikini dancers to take out, free lancers, discos, live bands (all qualities), karaoke (often for japanese or koreans), shows. you can expand to qc, makati, paranaque, keeping yourself busy basically for ever. and there are other things to do in manila too. there are also "casas" but i am not an expert.

makati/burgos has lots of bikini places. it is more expensive and gets pretty boring after a while. it is convenient to the business hotels but i would not go there as a destination. there are also some decent bars like hard rock, the bar in the shangri la, strumms on jupiter for music. they also have some girls. there are also "casas" but i am not an expert.

olongopo/barrio baretto/subic city/base – i think this is the best combination of girls and activities. there are girls in most of the bars with the best girl activity in baretto and subic city. the best music etc is probably olongopo. there are great daytime activities in the area including diving, beaches, parks, restaurants.

puerto galera – great diving and pretty good "discos", basically bikini bars.

cebu – great city with lots to do in and around, plus plenty of bikini bars and lots of girls just roaming the streets looking for friends, casas, etc.

bacolod – well off the beaten path, but good action around the casino. there are lots of other places to see and things to do in the philippines: beaches, mountains, diving, snorkeling, surfing, sightseeing, rafting, eating, music, festivals. these are all great to do, even better if you have good company.

if it were my first trip, had two weeks, and i was not afraid, i would start in manila, three nights, then go to subic for 3-4 days, then angeles for 3-4 days. then back to manila for two. there are not good roads between them. it is about 2. 5 hours manila-subic, less than an hour subic-angeles and about 1. 5 hours back to manila. bring viagra, or buy along the way for about p200/box, and lots of your favorite condoms, you will need them.

next time you can expand to cebu, puerto galera, bahol, bicol, boracay. on and on. these require flights and more planing.

check out other reports, including mine, for details.

Brown Rail
11-06-08, 03:15
Whats the best Philippines city for mongering? Looking for best quality and a fun time. I've been to Thailand over a dozen times but a PI virgin. I tend to go for go-go's in BKK because I find the best quality and I finesse the attitude. Also do Phuket over Pattaya because the quality of the town. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Sorry, typo.

I meant there are "now" good roads between Manila/Subic/Angeles

Catswhiskers
11-07-08, 03:52
Well folks. Managed a quick trip there yesterday.

Happy Sauna

E. Rodriguez Sr, Cubao Quezon City Philippines

Near Baliwag Lechon Manok, Balete Drive cor. E. Rodriguez, infront of Grand Inihaw

Entrance is off the road and hassle-free. Front desk.php 500 for an hour, paid for two. Got a towel and a key with a number on it. This corresponds to the girl.

Guided through to cubicle area. Attendant gave took the key and guided me in. Was there for about ten mins after a quick shower listening to the shagging couple next door and getting hornier by the minute. Then a vision of beauty walked in. Slim, huge smile, nice teeth (number 2 was her number).

Door locked, then she stripped off. No need to ask how this was going to work out. Small boobs, just how I like them and a nice bit of pussy fur.

Into the shower where she rubbed me up and down and was happy for me to do the same to her. Dried off. She made sure ALL bits were dry. And then onto the bed. I have to say. Sweetest pussy I have licked in ages. Her BBBJ was excellent. Deep on occasions and teasing. Ball-licking and a bit of rimming followed then more pussy licking.

She climbed on top and it felt wonderful. Long shag then into doggie and mish to finish. Nice cuddle afterwards and then another shower, with pop number two in the shower.

Will try and get back there. Well worth it!

Happy Mongering guys!

Viajando Musico
11-08-08, 02:23
Phoenix One is on the third floor of Roman Suites. Once you get into the hotel, walk up the stairs directly across from the front desk. Once you are on the second floor, look to your left and their is another set of stairs that will take you up to the third floor. The price is 1200p before 6pm and 1400p after 6pm for the room. The price for the girl is 1500p but sometimes they will ask for a little more. I usually just give 1500p afterwards without asking how much and haven't had any complaints. There usually are more girls after 5pm but I have always gone in the afternoon because I'm usually at EDSA or LA Cafe at night.I’ve been to Phoenix One a few times, and once after quite a few mojitos at la Havanna in Green Belt at around 2 AM. Surprisingly the best selection was this time at 2 o’clock in the morning. The other times I went there in the afternoon, or early evening. I only had one not so good experience here when the girl hit me with 2K pesos. The other girls were pretty content with 1500 pesos. If you are In Makati, and don’t want to fight the traffic of going to Quezon city or other places this is a convenient establishment. In terms of quality, I saw soom attractive girls from time to time, but not always. When that happened, I just stepped out without picking any.

Manila has many very beautiful girls, but unfortunely only very few are working in the P4P scene.

Catswhiskers
11-08-08, 08:21
Sorry, what a Muppet - Oh, I forgot to mention the cost ...

Went back today - got number 40 - cracking body but not into anything other than shagging ... no bbbj

Total cost = 500php entrance - 500php to the girl or more if you want.

Simple Weekend
11-08-08, 13:47
Hi,

Will it be a problem for me to monger. Asking that because I am an indian.

Michi
11-09-08, 17:30
Hi,

Will it be a problem for me to monger. Asking that because I am an indian.It is the same as everywhere: Some like you, some don't.

For the working girls: some accept you, some cannot get along with you.

While there is a certain tendency that the filipinas do not like indian too much, there is a lot that do as well.

I guess it has to do with the many spices in your food. That I really love by the way. So they are simply not used to it.

Once brought a Filipoina to an Indian restaurant to show some thing new: in my case: BIG MISTAKE!

So be lucky and enjoy, there is plenty for all kind of us.

Yella Man
11-10-08, 02:52
First stop was LA Café where I meet this little sweetheart, and her friend who was rather homely looking, around 10 PM Sunday. She was cool and could actually carry on a conversation beyond hi sir, what’s your name and where you from. LOL

Mike

Joann still there, eh? I did her in April 2007 and took a bunch of photos during the session and posted them in the photo section back then. Nice piece of ass!

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man

FreebieFan
11-11-08, 01:15
A brother here requested help. I've seen many Indians not have the most joy of their lives in Manila. Often see then walking around Burgos without the gorgeous young partners they should have on their arms.

The girls do tend to comment " mabaho". As in the smell. Girls can be extremely racist when they choose to be. Thats not going to change.

But I've also seen several Indian fellows succeed. Generally when on their own rather than in a group.

Warbucks
11-11-08, 10:27
Hi,

Will it be a problem for me to monger. Asking that because I am an indian.


Filipinos as all of Asia on average prefer white men. Inferiority complex? Domino effect of colonization? Who knows? I am a 20 something year old hip hopping black guy.... hit the gym on a regular and not that bad looking. Some want to go with me some don’t. Same as everywhere I guess.

A lot of the women in this country are strap for cash so any color will do. Try your hand with the ones with money then you really see what’s up.

Darth Sushi
11-11-08, 10:42
Hi,

Will it be a problem for me to monger. Asking that because I am an indian.
There are plenty of Indians mongering here. My advice is to interview the girl who shows interest in you. The ones who can't look you in the eye will usually result in a bad lay but that goes for any nationality. Never pay for a gal the mamasan is forcing no matter how hot she looks. The best gourmet food prepared by a great chef will always taste bad with a rude waitress. The same is true with pussy with a bad attitude.

Warbucks
11-11-08, 11:16
My advice is to interview the girl who shows interest in you. The ones who can't look you in the eye will usually result in a bad lay but that goes for any nationality.

Yeah I have noticed this too...But I had one in Bangkok couple of weeks ago who paid no attention to me whatsoever while she gyrating on stage but still turned out to be fun for the night.....not extremely GFE but she was insatiable. Repeatedly asking me for seconds and thirds….said I was her first black guy but I don’t believe shit that come out these girls mouth. For me Asia is one big lie.

Gaijin Gigolo
11-11-08, 18:09
To all the regular members of this board who provided priceless information prior to my first visit to the Philippines recently, I've posted pix (three separate postings) of some of my scores in the photo section for your enjoyment. Have been swamped with work since I've been back in Singapore so I will have to offer up my trip reports a bit later. In the meantime, enjoy the pix I took of my hotties...some from friendster, some from LA Cafe and a couple from Robinson's Mall in Malate. Details to follow... ;-)

Hunny Buns
11-12-08, 17:20
That's kinda news to me. Maybe a certain type prefer white men, those that come from average to lower social rung, but the higher class are forbidden to take in non-white. It's a social thing.

Look in the US, granted those white chicks that date and marry our African-American athletes are very hot, not all white girls prefer brothers. I would say the higher social class still only date and marry whites, same in Asia.

I say this, because the girls that I date and see won't date non-Asian, and they are 8's through 10's.

Don't hate the messenger, hate the message.


Filipinos as all of Asia on average prefer white men. Inferiority complex? Domino effect of colonization? Who knows? I am a 20 something year old hip hopping black guy.... hit the gym on a regular and not that bad looking. Some want to go with me some don’t. Same as everywhere I guess.

A lot of the women in this country are strap for cash so any color will do. Try your hand with the ones with money then you really see what’s up.

Yella Man
11-13-08, 08:48
Filipinos as all of Asia on average prefer white men. Inferiority complex? Domino effect of colonization? Who knows? I am a 20 something year old hip hopping black guy.... hit the gym on a regular and not that bad looking. Some want to go with me some don’t. Same as everywhere I guess.

A lot of the women in this country are strap for cash so any color will do. Try your hand with the ones with money then you really see what’s up.


That's news to me also. I'm a Yella Brotha, hence the name Yella Man, and I don't have much problem hooking up with 7-10's in the Phils. Hell, I could be a 90 years old, one eyed, no legged gimp (no offense meant if you really are one) and still get some play off of some of the girls in the Phils. Sure, some of them have a preference, but the almighty $$$ and their basic survival instincts usually over rule preference. It's all about economics.

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man

Fedex
11-13-08, 14:35
I am turning 50 y.o. today and have just returned from my first trip to the Phils with my LA friend Mike ReallyNiceGuy. 10 days in heaven is how I can sum up this trip, which was split between Manila and AC.

First, thanks to all on this board and two other friends who help me gather important info. In addition, I had a freebie in Manila who took most of my time, but was very rewarding (I will refer to her as "F" in my reports).

Arrived Sunday morning after the long flight from LAX to TPE to MNL and met Mike at our hotel (The Executive Plaza Hotel). Very decent hotel, about $40/night thru agoda.com, a few minutes walk from LA Cafe and the Robinson Mall, facing the Hyatt's Casino entrance.

Went to Edzen's to change money (yellow sign on Mabini St. - great rates), then headed to Robinson's Mall to get phones and sim cards. Notified F that I have arrived and arranged to meet in my room around 5:00 (I was planning on a quick ST from LA Cafe before that).

Went to LA Cafe with Mike and enjoyed the place and the girls. However, since F doesn't know about me hobbying, I did not want to risk another girl's smell in the room or on the sheets and decided to skip the ST.

After a couple of hours we went back to the hotel and I waited for F. She used to work for a MNL company that did business with the company I worked with. After she left that company, we stayed in touch via e-mail (we never met) and in the last 18 months, I have steered our communication to sexual matters.

She is 41 y.o., never slept with any other man but her husband (she was a virgin when she married, due to very strict upbringing), never dfk'd, daty'd, bj'd, climaxed, etc. Her take on sex was that it was inconvenient, painful and just something that you have to do with your husband. However, she caught her husband cheating and cut him off from sex a couple of years ago, so it's been a while since she was in the sack...

About 6 months ago, I taught her via explicit e-mails how to masturbate and she was able to "O" for the first time in her life. In the weeks leading to my arrival, I told her in detail what I was planning for her and during one of the chats, I directed her to watch a porn flick on a porn website (a first for her). Since she was eager to please me, I told her to use that porn flick as an instructional video and later I was highly rewarded.

The knock on the door came and I was pleased to find out that she looked better and younger than the photos she sent me. We kissed a bit, a little DFK and chatted for a while. Had my hands on her chest, but did not want to push it. Went out to the mall for a quick dinner and got back to the room.

She notified me that she got her period that morning, but nothing stops this old man (sorry if I gross you out guys!).
I played with her clit till she climaxed, later pounded her in different positions. Her BBBJ was amazing. She really learned a lot from that video - I just had to instruct her to make less use of her teeth, but she was very close to DT. Her kitty was tight and she grimaced, but took it like a champ. She left to go back home around midnight and I gave her $7 taxi money, coz she paid her way in. Told her to meet me the next day at 1:00pm. End of day 1.

Gangles
11-14-08, 15:02
I left Bacolod with a promised meeting with Miss H. We had had a checkered past, with a planned meeting stuffed up because she had lied about where she was living, and hence her air ticket was voided when she went to board the flight from Palawan to meet me in Cebu. However she had promised total reform, so I agreed to take a chance this time.

She had told me that when I paid her fare to come to Manila, she would travel a couple of days earlier to visit her friend. That was OK with me. We were to meet at the Mall of Asia, an hour after my flight landed. But I got texts the evening before saying that she was in Angeles City, and could not meet me at that time.

Then she said that she could not get there till later, the bus was too slow. So I asked her which bus line she was traveling on – Victory, so I said that I would meet her at the Victory terminal in Pasay. I was sitting there, expecting to be waiting for a couple of hours, when suddenly she just turned up, from well away from the arrival area, and not a bus in sight. But I didn’t really care, at least she was there, in the flesh. And she looked pretty good. Just like her photos, very tall, and slim, pretty face, not expensive clothes.

So we headed out to catch a taxi to meet up with my mate – we were going to stay at his place for four days.

The taxi ride was very pleasant, there were no negative vibes, and I thought she would be into it. So we arrived, greetings all round, food, lunch, drinks, and a chat. By this time I was pretty buggered, so I said that I was going to have a snooze. Miss H decided to come too. We stretched out on the bed, and cuddled for a while. She was moving and wriggling nicely, so I started to stroke her all over, kissing, licking, nipping her neck. She was getting in to this, so I started to take off her clothes. No resistance, helpful. By the time we were both naked, she was panting.

I rolled her over, partly on top of me, and continued the stroking, but now up the insides of her thighs, across her belly, and in the little valley where her hip meets her legs. By this time she was very wet, and I think a bit surprised by it all. I rolled her on her back, and started to lick her neck, her face, her eyelids, then nibble on her nipples, and slowly down her belly. By this time she was squirming, and dripping wet. So I rolled onto my back, puller her on top, and went to slide into her. But she was unresponsive, and I was puzzled. Also, she did not know where to put her legs. After a while, I realized that she had never done this, never experienced any variation on the plain star fish missionary.

So eventually I got her legs in the right position, so that she was over me, but with a bit of space between our bellies.Then I slipped into her, and tickled her clit while I was slowly fucking in and out. We could do this because she was so tall, and thin, that there was plenty of space between us. Not too long later, she began to quiver, so I kept on tickling with my finger tip, while slowly fucking. And she came. Not hard. But the expression on her face was astonishment.

It was not long till I came and filled her belly with a bunch of sperm.

We relaxed, with her still on top, and I kept on stroking her sides and back.

She was lying close on top of me, and I eventually rolled her off. She kept her arms fairly close across her breasts. After a while, she confessed that she was ashamed at how small her breasts were. I told her that the best size for her was the size that god gave her. And anyway, I didn’t care how big she was, just how sensitive her nipples were.

Well, she totally relaxed. It must have been a real load on her mind.

So I started sucking her nipples, asking her which one was the most sensitive, and she really took off. She completely let loose, became totally uninhibited. I slowly licked her from the tip of her nose till I was over her clit, then slowly opened her up and began to lick her clit with the tip of my tongue. She was off again, and it didn’t take long for her to come again.

After that, we both snoozed, wrapped round each other. It was lovely.

The rest of the time was the same. She was a very responsive lover, and was prepared to experiment a bit. Doggie was a revelation to her, and she loved it. Couldn’t get enough. We ate, talked, went shopping, snogged, cuddled. Did everything that lovers do. Wonderful.

Eventually, four days later, it was time for us to part. We bid our farewells, and took a bus to Pasay. We took a taxi, and I dropped her off close to where she could get a jeepney, and I then pointed the taxi to the Partes terminal in Pasay, where I was to meet Miss J

Amavida
11-14-08, 16:18
Never bothered with this place before. Bored with the usual haunts so I got myself some digs in Malate & went there last night & again tonight.

The good : walking distance to Robinsons mall & many nice hotels. Nice friendly well run place with pool tables, snacks, live music & of course booze. Plenty of women. Muct be 20 or 30 to one ratio of women to men. 95% fuckworthy, 20% very fuckable indeed & a few stunners.

The bad : My god! Every girl there is a cold hard hooker.. Walk in to the place thay all smile, exchange names & where you from's & then straight to 'you go with me', 'short time', '3000/2000' (depending on how gullible they think you are?). No eye contact, no touching.. just quote their price & then insistent to leave 'we go now'. All the while scanning the crowd.
I turned down so many pretty girls who behaved like this that it got boring real quick. None were interested in dancing/talking/drinking. All just wanted to turn a trick (..and get back in time to turn another?)
Tonight out of curiosity & in the name of research I gave in & took a beautiful half Chinese girl out for a ST. She claimed to have been on the game there for 2 years (actually every girl I spoke to claimed 2 years). She didn't bring condoms forcing an embarrassing time wasting trip back out of the hotel to find some. Back in the room she was mesmerised by her cell phone.. sat there txt'ing constantly, no conversation. I asked her to turn it off & focus on me. She suddenly couldn't understand english & continued. I told her bluntly to turn it off. She left it on but put it on the side board. Then she informed me one pop only no need for 'many condom'. I gave up in disgust & walked out of the short time hotel leaving her there.
Damage p500 for hotel. Asking p2000 for 'short time' (I walked & gave nothing). I come to PI for GFE, if i wanted to be treated like this I dont need to come all this way to PI.

I guess it suits a particular style of monger who wants cold ST sex. Its not for me. I found it just one big tease.

Im going to Angeles next week where I have always found that the girls are happy to go with you to your hotel all night & do what ever you want. The girls pay attention to you & give you a gfe (even if it is fake). Prices p1350 all night & most girls don't even ask a tip.

AV

HornyGeorge
11-14-08, 20:59
Curious if you were upstairs or downstairs as your description of all hard cores does not comport with my experiences there upstairs (I cannot stand the smoke downstairs so I take a breath outside then hightail it directly up the stairs).

I almost never would take anybody if they showed the warning signs you indicated before leaving the bar.

Xdentx
11-15-08, 00:53
I was in Ermita in September staying at Riviera Mansion (interesting adequate place) and really enjoyed LA Cafe. I don't like ST because I'm looking for more personable interaction that potentially comes with LT. I took three ladies LT from LA during my stay for 2000 each night and had a nice time with each. I ran into each one at LA on subsequent visits, so I learned that each was a regular. I didn't take from the upstairs because I figured they would expect a bigger fee (admission charge). Granted the ladies are all there for one reason and it's not to drink all night. A lot of these ladies don't even drink alcohol. And I left emptyhanded one night because I couldn't find anyone with a suitable vibe. Nevertheless, it's quite possible to get a GFE on a LT basis from LA. Just depends on your own mind set when you chat up the girl and your interpersonal chemistry. By the way, we've all experienced the cell phone crap...but when you "tell" someone "bluntly" to turn it off, you know it's gonna be all downhill from there.

Fedex
11-15-08, 02:59
Since I told the Freebie ("F") that I will meet her at 1:00pm, I had time to go to LA Cafe and test, or should I say taste, the goods.

Jet lag woke me up around 4:30am and I met my buddy Mike for breakfast around 6:00. We reported to LA Cafe around 7:30am and the place was rather full with working girls.

I always look for the shy ones, the country girls type, and I saw one standing by the window, rubbing her arm, coz she was cold. I told her to come over, so I could warm her and she gave me a smile shy before obliging. Wennie was a week shy of 24, a tiny spinner with not much in the boobs department, but I like them small. We chatted a bit (of course she has a baby - every Filipina over 18 has one... I think that's the law...LOL), so she rides a bus 2 hours to LA Cafe each day to make a living.

My buddy Mike drew a GFE for ST the night before and as we were sitting, Cathy came over and he liked her (she turned to be another GFE for him). Wennie quoted me 1500 for ST, but I told her that Mike paid 1200 the night before. She agreed and off we went.

She was OK, not really passionate, DFK was there, but mostly as an afterthought. She grimaced a lot, telling me I was big (I am avaerage) and it took away some fun. DATY, BBBJ, multiple positions and within 40 minutes I popped. She asked permission to sleep a bit, which I granted. Here I was, in Manila, sitting in bed, reading a book with a naked young working girl sleeping next to me. Weird.

After 45 minutes of sleep, I woke her up and we went for round 2. Again, it was good, but something was missing there. Later I found that she was up for more than 24 hours, coz she got to LA Cafe the day before and had no customers. She didn't have enough money for the ride back home. Unbelievable!

I had the towels replaced early in the morning after my bloody session with F the night before. Housekeeping probably thought that I either slaughtered someone or deflowered someone. After Wennie left, I had them change towels again, so F won't suspect...

F showed up, we picked up Mike and went to have a lengthy Japanese lunch near the hotel. That was fun. Then we rode a jeepney to Rizal Park, the port area and back. Had to check some e-mails in an internet cafe and by the time we returned to the hotel it was evening already. We sent Mike on his merry ways and went to bed to enjoy ourselves. Today her bleeding almost stopped, but she was still grimacing, so I introduced her to Astro-Glide, a good lubricant and she felt better. She felt less pain in the spoon position, so that was fine with me. We did it once and went to sleep. She stayed overnight, so when the jet lag woke me up at 3:00am, it was a delayed round 2...

Summary of the first 2 days: 2 girls, one with a period, both grimacing... Can I get a non-hurting girl here sometime?... BTW, F was in love from the first minute, but she is a cool girl and fun to be with.

Coming up: Day 3 - a trip to Tagaytay and horseriding up to the Taal volcano crater (there was sex that day, too, but late in the evening...).

Cunning Stunt
11-15-08, 14:20
the bad : my god! every girl there is a cold hard hooker.. walk in to the place thay all smile, exchange names & where you from's & then straight to 'you go with me', 'short time', '3000/2000' (depending on how gullible they think you are?). no eye contact, no touching.. just quote their price & then insistent to leave 'we go now'. all the while scanning the crowd.

av

hi av, been a while since you popped your head above the parapet :).

la cafe is an odd sort of place. one night it can be full of the hard eyed regulars that you encoutered. but you could go there the next day and find plenty of the doe eyed 'newbies' who claim to be moonlighting students or storegirls, that we all prefer. its weird and all a question of timing but i haven't worked it out yet. but that is part of the magic of the place; its a pandora's box, and when you enter the place you just don't know what you will find.

what i will say is that i have had a few duds from the place, but have also had many more real firecrackers, that have proved to be amongst my best p4p experiences in the philippines.

it is still the premier place for fl's in manila. just wish the owners would spend some of the vast profits and spruce the place up and improve the abyssmal ac and ventilation.

g

Any Hole
11-17-08, 00:38
Im going to Angeles next week where I have always found that the girls are happy to go with you to your hotel all night & do what ever you want. The girls pay attention to you & give you a gfe (even if it is fake). Prices p1350 all night & most girls don't even ask a tip.

AVI was in a/c 2 weeks ago for 3 weeks, and there are lots of girls especially from the perimeter bars that just want short time, and ask for a tip afterwards!!

FreebieFan
11-17-08, 04:04
Well had me another hot and happening weekend in the town that just wears me the heck out.

Prior to arrival had been chatting with a gal.. ( over 30 with kid.. as normal) and from her style of chat and asking me often what time Id be there I knew that bed was a racing certainty.

Met.. and she was happy funny jolly.. about the size I expected. 5ft 2in, and 105 pounds. We met in a mall, she asked me where were going, I said to my car so we can go somewhere intimate. She didnt reply.

In car, arms touching ( always a sign for me that lots more will be touching!)...and little preliminary hands on leg etcetc.

Got to Sogo and into room. Meant that within 45 minutes of meeting this gal Ive got her into bed. Within 60 minutes Im banging here.Love how often this happens and how normal it is.

Sex was fine.. nothing outstanding.. and after over I wanted to lose her to omve onto next activitiy of the night. Dropped her back ( no money exchanged, totally free) at mall and went onto Burgos. Had fun in Wowowow bar where sometimes theres a lovely or two but often just dogs.

Next day, did some work then at night met my Tarlac friend. A real sweet lady, got mad crush on me and will do anything I ask. We meet and drive in my car to a Makati hotel. Edsa on a friday night and I think my car tinting is enough that she can blow me.. and she does.

Off to hotel and she goes to bathroom. Shes been doing some uniform games with me in previous trips and this weekend shed had a nurses uniform made.

Comes out of bathroom in white stockings, high heels, very short nurses outfit....even nurses hat.

Well a few hours pass whilst Im doing everything imaginable to her, including pics and vids, vibrator ,ass etc.

She comes to Manila to stay with me, but on this night told her I had to go out meet the mates. She understood that so I had a few hours in Burgos with her in room waiting. Perfect arrangement.

We had lots more sessions in next day and morning.... she counted 36 orgasms in total in about 38 hours. She gets more and more energy from each orgasm..whereas now if I have 3 in a day Im reallly tired. Old age catching me up fast.

Anyways, normal high energy fun weekend!

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Fedex
11-17-08, 05:11
Jet lag woke me up at 3:00am, but my freebie was sleeping next to me. She heard me wake up and did the same. Sensual love making followed for the next couple of hours.

Eventually we met my wingman Mike for breakfast sometime around 7:30 and then headed to meet F's best friend in a mall an hour south of Manila.

When we met T (married + 3), she took us in her new tiny minivan to Tagaytay, a town ovelooking Taal Lake and Taal Volcano, which is located on one of the many islands of the lake. T just got her driving licesnse some 5 months earlier, so she drove real slow, but we were cool with that.

In Tagaytay we cut a deal with one of the hustling tour guides and he drove us down to the beach, where we boarded a small wooden boat for the 30 minutes ride to the island. On the island, we bargained hard with the horse operators and the four of us climbed on horses that took us uphill to the crater. Standing on top of the volcano, you look down and watch the small pond inside the crater, with the sulfur still bubbling some hundreds of feet below. Then you turn 180 degrees to look at Taal lake from the top of the mountain and watch its many islands. The view is just breathtaking (the Philippines is said to have 7,100 - 7,300 isalnds, depending on whom you ask...).

We caught our breath and enjoyed the breeze and the fresh air (such a nice change from the diesel-polluted Manila air). Mike and I were sitting some 30 feet away from the 2 girls, when I notice a smirk on T's face, as F was telling her something. "What are you girls talking about?" I hollered over in their direction (it was obvious to me that my F was telling her best friend some intimate details - I didn't care, but decided to have some fun with that). She reacted like a kid caught with his hands in the cookie jar: She blushed and said: "Nothing, we haven't met for a long time, so we're catching up."

"I don't think so", I said, smiling. "T has a very special smirk on her face - I think you are telling her some very confidential stuff..." The girls burst out laughing, because I was right on the money.

Later we returned to the mainland and had dinner in a Japanese restaurant overlooking the lake. Got back to Manila around 8:00pm, Mike went hunting and we concluded the day with another 2-hour love making session.

Around 10:30 F was ready to go home, so we parted for the next 3 - 4 days.

Coming next: Angeles City - I must have died and woke up in heaven.

Note: The trip reports for the next 4 days will be Posted in the Angeles City section.

Asian Guy 2020
11-17-08, 08:32
Amen Yella Man!

That's how it is in the Phils. Sh*t, it's like that everywhere.

Hell, before I started this hobby I skinned many women of different color, Sistas, Latinos, Whites and Asians. Everyone has their own prefs but straight up, leave the $$$ crap outta this, if you got skills you can hook it up. I can and I still do but sometimes I like the idea of going out and ordering some take-out pussy.

I love Filipino women but I have to say, my last two Puertorican GFs use to f**K the living sh*t outta me and I'm contemplating a trip to their homeland.

AG


That's news to me also. I'm a Yella Brotha, hence the name Yella Man, and I don't have much problem hooking up with 7-10's in the Phils. Hell, I could be a 90 years old, one eyed, no legged gimp (no offense meant if you really are one) and still get some play off of some of the girls in the Phils. Sure, some of them have a preference, but the almighty $$$ and their basic survival instincts usually over rule preference. It's all about economics.

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man

Amavida
11-17-08, 12:41
I was in a/c 2 weeks ago for 3 weeks, and there are lots of girls especially from the perimeter bars that just want short time, and ask for a tip afterwards!!I stick to the big fields bars. Plenty of nice women happy to go LT & give GFE.
AV

Amavida
11-17-08, 12:52
Curious if you were upstairs or downstairs as your description of all hard cores does not comport with my experiences there upstairs (I cannot stand the smoke downstairs so I take a breath outside then hightail it directly up the stairs).

I almost never would take anybody if they showed the warning signs you indicated before leaving the bar.I tried both upstairs & downstairs. I noticed many of the hustlers were going back & forth between the two area. I found the chicks had the same attitude in both areas. In a big hurry to turn a trick.
Maybe it was an unusual Thursday/Friday when I visited because it was a fiesta week-end coming up (Mayors birthday).
There did seem to be a sense of almost desperation coming form the girls. Many were watching the front door & would exclaim 'Oh! so many girls!' every time another batch of chicks walked in. One would think it was a buyers market in these circumstances. Not so, couldn't get them to lower their prices. Two chicks txt'd me on following days sniffing for business.
Robinsons mall had at least one encounter each day with gorgeous shy newby freelancers. These can range from freeby to very cheap P4P. Very hit & miss way to find a root tho..
AV

OldAsiaHand
11-17-08, 13:14
Gentlemen,

Please do not flame me if the answer has been posted but is there any reliable place in Makati to buy real Viagra and Cialis? I've often seen guys selling it near the entertainment areas, but have always been afraid it was fake.

Thanks.

OAH

P.S. I will be in town from tomorrow for a couple of days. If anybody wants to hook-up, send me a PM.

Amavida
11-17-08, 13:33
Gentlemen,

Please do not flame me if the answer has been posted but is there any reliable place in Makati to buy real Viagra and Cialis? I've often seen guys selling it near the entertainment areas, but have always been afraid it was fake.

Thanks.

OAH

P.S. I will be in town from tomorrow for a couple of days. If anybody wants to hook-up, send me a PM.You can buy it in drug stores & pay a lot more for it. Occassionally you will hit a drug store that asks for a prescription - not often.
The stuff on the street is Indian manufactured (generic). That is to say the boxes are fake but the drug is real. I use it & it works.
Vendors will insistantly ask p1500 for a box of C. Just offer p500 or walk away, I can guarantee they will accept p500 rather than lose a sale.
You will see hysterical news paper reports of dire consequences of buying street V or C, its all bullshit. Part of the usual fake moral outrage that is in the newspapers everyday here.
AV

Darth Sushi
11-17-08, 18:37
Although prices in Manila probably cost more since most things in Manila cost more than AC. However, I know some will not believe me but vitamin V and C can be had on the streets of AC for 100 pesos per box (4 tablets) but you need to get at least 5 boxes to encourage the seller. Amavida is right...just walk away and they'll change their tune before you can take two steps. 200 pesos per box is the most I've paid in 2008. I've tried both from the street and never been gypped. Both V and C need to be taken at least an hour before liftoff but I prefer C taken the night before. Plus, one C tablet will last me for 3 days!

GoodEnough
11-17-08, 23:30
You can buy it in drug stores & pay a lot more for it. Occassionally you will hit a drug store that asks for a prescription - not often.
The stuff on the street is Indian manufactured (generic). That is to say the boxes are fake but the drug is real. I use it & it works.
Vendors will insistantly ask p1500 for a box of C. Just offer p500 or walk away, I can guarantee they will accept p500 rather than lose a sale.
You will see hysterical news paper reports of dire consequences of buying street V or C, its all bullshit. Part of the usual fake moral outrage that is in the newspapers everyday here.
AV
You can buy V and C in about any quantity you want for Php200 per box of four anywhere on Burgos St. I've never paid more. It takes about 30 seconds of haggling and there are vendors all over the place.

GE

MeLuvULongTime
11-19-08, 01:29
Gentlemen: I am card counter and I plan to win enough pisos playing blackjack (21) to pay for my barfines. I have played at the Heritage Casino (only one table) in Pasay, but I want to visit other casinos in the manila area. I know blackjack is not a popular game in the PI, so I need some other casinos that have blackjack (21). I went to the Casino near the airport and there was no blackjack talbes. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Meluvulongtime

Yella Man
11-19-08, 04:42
Although prices in Manila probably cost more since most things in Manila cost more than AC. However, I know some will not believe me but vitamin V and C can be had on the streets of AC for 100 pesos per box (4 tablets) but you need to get at least 5 boxes to encourage the seller. Amavida is right...just walk away and they'll change their tune before you can take two steps. 200 pesos per box is the most I've paid in 2008. I've tried both from the street and never been gypped. Both V and C need to be taken at least an hour before liftoff but I prefer C taken the night before. Plus, one C tablet will last me for 3 days!

100 Peso's a box can be easily had if you haggle. I get them for that price all the time when I'm there. Just give the guy your mobile number and promise him you'll by 5-10 more boxes before you leave town (he'll messege you to death to remind you). If he doesn't go for it, just wait for the next guy to approach you.

Yella Man

Knobrm
11-19-08, 05:07
I have had a bad habit of stobbing by bkk for short bang breaks when travel plans allow. Never done manila and would like to hear comparisons from experienced mongers whether I should, or just to stick to old habit

Knob

GoodEnough
11-19-08, 07:32
This is a discussion that's recurred many times on this forum with no conclusive answer. As always, there are pluses and minuses on both sides. The biggest pluses in the PI from my point of view are that first, the girls speak English; not perfect English but enough to communicate. Second, the whole experience is somehow less nakedly commercial and more girlfriend-like, and a bit more amateurish than in Thailand. On the downside, the sex scene in Bangkok is much better organized. There is nothing resembling Patpong, Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy or, for that matter, the whole Sukhumvit scene in Manila, and there's no real massage parlor scene as in Bangkok. The local food sucks and the culture is not particularly interesting, so there's that to add to the plus side of the Bangkok ledger, and Bangkok's transportation system leaves Manila looking like something out of the 18th century.

It's probably much easier to approach and to succeed with non-pros in the Philippines than in Bangkok and, probably because everyone speaks English to some extent, and almost everyone harbors a dream of going to the West, the Filipinos are, if not more gracious then easier to get to know than the Thais.

If I had the choice of where to live, I would pick Bangkok over Manila hands down, but not because of the sex scenes.

GE

Darth Sushi
11-19-08, 12:07
Gentlemen: I am card counter and I plan to win enough pisos playing blackjack (21) to pay for my barfines. I have played at the Heritage Casino (only one table) in Pasay, but I want to visit other casinos in the manila area. I know blackjack is not a popular game in the PI, so I need some other casinos that have blackjack (21). I went to the Casino near the airport and there was no blackjack talbes. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

Meluvulongtime
Just ask the taxi driver where the "PAGCOR" casinos are:

METRO MANILA PAGCOR BRANCHES
PAGCOR-Heritage
PAGCOR-Hyatt
PAGCOR-Paranaque
PAGCOR-Pavilion

LUZON PAGCOR BRANCHES
PAGCOR-Angeles
PAGCOR-Laoag
PAGCOR-Mimosa
PAGCOR-Olongapo
PAGCOR-Tagaytay

VISAYAS-MINDANAO PAGCOR BRANCHES
PAGCOR-Bacolod
PAGCOR-Cebu
PAGCOR-Davao
PAGCOR-Mactan

Watch out! They love to remove the 10s from the deck in this country, which gives better odds to the house. Baccarat seems to be more popular here. Good luck!

BTW, how many hours do you work counting cards here?

MeLuvULongTime
11-19-08, 19:07
Btw, how many hours do you work counting cards here? [/QUOTE] Darth Sushi: Your right Darth, card counting is work. Last year I spent nearly 30 hours counting cards to win $2, 500. 00 US dollars. I was lucky. Just because you count does not mean you will always win. With counting and correct betting scheme you have a approximatelly a 1% percent advantage over the casino. On average out of 5 sessions you will be a winner 3 times. The big advantage to counting is the longer play the greater the likelihood of winning. What I like about PI casinos in there slower pace of play and lack of "heat" meaning management does not harras or ban you if you win. Thanx for the info.

Meluvlulongtime

OzzieSuds
11-20-08, 10:46
This is a discussion that's recurred many times on this forum with no conclusive answer. As always, there are pluses and minuses on both sides. The biggest pluses in the PI from my point of view are that first, the girls speak English; not perfect English but enough to communicate. Second, the whole experience is somehow less nakedly commercial and more girlfriend-like, and a bit more amateurish than in Thailand. On the downside, the sex scene in Bangkok is much better organized. There is nothing resembling Patpong, Nana Plaza or Soi Cowboy or, for that matter, the whole Sukhumvit scene in Manila, and there's no real massage parlor scene as in Bangkok. The local food sucks and the culture is not particularly interesting, so there's that to add to the plus side of the Bangkok ledger, and Bangkok's transportation system leaves Manila looking like something out of the 18th century.

It's probably much easier to approach and to succeed with non-pros in the Philippines than in Bangkok and, probably because everyone speaks English to some extent, and almost everyone harbors a dream of going to the West, the Filipinos are, if not more gracious then easier to get to know than the Thais.

If I had the choice of where to live, I would pick Bangkok over Manila hands down, but not because of the sex scenes.

GE

I generally agree but would put it a little differently on the basis of what you want.

If you want a wham-bam go-for-it experience in the bar or back at the hotel choose Bangkok.

If you prefer some level of conversation and a more GFE type experience choose Manila.

For the GFE experience I would say that Saigon is becoming a strong rival with all the gals there that want to learn english.

OldAsiaHand
11-21-08, 14:29
I have seen a wide range of prices posted here. I pulled 2 girls ST from LA Cafe this week. Took them back to my hotel in Makati.

First one stayed a couple of hours. Only problem was that she had a smelly box. Turned her over for doggy, caught a whiff and nearly barfed. Popped quickly and sent her on her way with 1,000 + 100 for taxi.

Second one stayed about 4 hours, but only one pop. Service was better than the 1st one. She wanted to stay LT but I needed the rest and I had arranged a morning call from another regular I do. I gave her 1,500 + 100 taxi and she made a fuss. Did I pay too little? Is 4 hours considered LT?

The regular came in the morning and I gave her 1,000 for an hour with one pop. She seemed happy with that.

OAH

P.S. I noticed that many of the girls in LA Cafe want to give you the impression that they "do not do this all the time". Does that make them more attractive to the punters? Is it believable?

Buko Max
11-21-08, 21:48
I gave her 1,500 + 100 taxi and she made a fuss. Did I pay too little? Is 4 hours considered LT?
Yeah you did good! Usually ST is anything less then three hours or sometimes one pop. The going rate at LA Cafe is around 1500 give or take. Of course there are exceptions and YMMV.

Yes I have met many women there that only occasionally turn tricks when they are desperate for cash. An example is when they come in from the provinces temporarily for some reason and end up at LA Cafe for a quick buck because the place is known far and wide.

Darth Sushi
11-22-08, 02:21
Yes I have met many women there that only occasionally turn tricks when they are desperate for cash. An example is when they come in from the provinces temporarily for some reason and end up at LA Cafe for a quick buck because the place is known far and wide.
Also, when school tuition deadline comes knocking, you'll see an upswing in girls.

Asian Rain
11-23-08, 09:04
I noticed that many of the girls in LA Cafe want to give you the impression that they "do not do this all the time". Does that make them more attractive to the punters? Is it believable?I don't think any Filipina wants to portray herself as a hard core working girl, even the ones who are truly hard core. I have pulled quite a few girls who were true students (one nursing student was happy to bring her uniform on one date for some nasty doctor & nurse play) as well as dozens of freshies from the province. One of the older girls who acted as a mama san - and knew my preferences well - would introduce me to all the freshest girls.

On the other hand, just because a girl says she is a student or part-timer does not mean that she is either fresh or an amateur. I saw one recent photo gallery post which referred to a girl as a "student" who I know has been working the Malate scene for over 7 years. YMMV. AsianRain

Asian Rain
11-23-08, 09:07
Finally some mercy for visitors to Manila. The airport has finally established a proper meter taxi service, offering a cost-effective alternative to the hotel limosines and overpriced coupon taxis. Instead of having to beg your way past security to get up to the departure area to flag a taxi dropping off, there is now a convenient taxi queue just outside of customs (see pic).

I used this service on my last visit to Manila and it worked brilliantly. Just go to the queue and tell the clerk where you are going. He will give you a taxi slip (see pic) and hand you off to a driver, ensuring he knows where you are going. The taxis are spacious, clean and new, which means that the aircon will be blowing nicely for your ride into town. The flag down rate is slightly above the shitty regular meter taxis, but shouldn't be more than a couple dollars extra to the center of town (e.g. Makati). Against the hotel limos and coupon taxis, the savings are well over 50% with not much difference in the quality of the ride. It is by far the best option for getting into town. I have attached an article below from ABS-CBNNews on the service. Enjoy Manila! AsianRain


ABS-CBNNews

The Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) on Wednesday started mobilizing 100 units of brand-new sedans as metered taxis at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminals 1 and 2.

"We have been wanting to give a new alternative transport system at the NAIA. We are therefore proud to have initiated and spearheaded this new service that we are offering primarily to passengers and airport users. Now they have a cheaper but safe mode of transportation," said MIAA general manager Alfonso Cusi.

Cusi said the metered taxi will implement a P70 flag down rate for the first 500 meters and additional P4 for every succeeding 300 meters.

The flag down rate is higher than the P30 flag down for regular cabs operating in Metro Manila. Cusi said they expect the metered airport taxis to be lower in fares than the P1,200 normally charged by current taxi coupon service for passengers who are going to the northern part of Metro Manila.

"For the further protection of users, the taxi meter units are equipped with the receipt dispensing feature. Dispatch slips will be issued to them indicating the plate number of the taxi unit, breakdown of the tariff as approved by the Land Transportation and Franchising Regulatory Board (LTFRB) and contact numbers that they can reach to report any act of abuse or discourtesy," Cusi said.

Taxi companies as well as their drivers have been accredited by MIAA and the Department of Tourism. The drivers, Cusi said, have undergone the DOT’s "Mabuhay Host Program" or the LTFRB’s "Drivers Training Program."

All taxi units are equipped with two-way radios and a top light with the signage "Airport Taxi". It will be exclusively for airport operations to and from the NAIA terminals.

MIAA is expected to deploy around 300 metered taxi units in the coming months and will operate within the Mega Manila (provinces of Cavite, Rizal, Bulacan and Laguna)

"We appeal to our dear passengers to always take airport accredited transport for their own protection. The average fare difference of the tourist metered taxi from that of the regular metered taxi may be a little higher but the benefit to the users far outweighs the cost that will be incurred by making it as an alternative," Cusi said.

Devils 1
11-24-08, 05:15
Gentlemen: I am card counter and I plan to win enough pisos playing blackjack (21) to pay for my barfines. I have played at the Heritage Casino (only one table) in Pasay, but I want to visit other casinos in the manila area. I know blackjack is not a popular game in the PI, so I need some other casinos that have blackjack (21). I went to the Casino near the airport and there was no blackjack talbes. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

MeluvulongtimeTry the Hyatt Hotel/Casino. It is very near to LA Cafe. Don't know which particular part of Manila this is but it is very well known. The Casino is nice and clean. One of the few blackjack tables in the whole city. The ones near the airport are large but few or no BJ tables. Good luck

Also, they have a craps table here if anyone is interested.

Darth Sushi
11-24-08, 06:44
Good info, Asian Rain. You can also find metered taxi's all around Manila but not as nice as the airport service. Mall of Asia taxi queue have security giving out those taxi slips also. The first thing I ask a taxi driver is do you have a meter? Also, if he doesn't turn it on, remind him because some of these metered taxi will try to quote you a fixed price.

Fast Eddie 48
11-24-08, 08:33
I have seen a wide range of prices posted here. I pulled 2 girls ST from LA Cafe this week. Took them back to my hotel in Makati.

First one stayed a couple of hours. Only problem was that she had a smelly box. Turned her over for doggy, caught a whiff and nearly barfed. Popped quickly and sent her on her way with 1,000 + 100 for taxi.

Second one stayed about 4 hours, but only one pop. Service was better than the 1st one. She wanted to stay LT but I needed the rest and I had arranged a morning call from another regular I do. I gave her 1,500 + 100 taxi and she made a fuss. Did I pay too little? Is 4 hours considered LT?

The regular came in the morning and I gave her 1,000 for an hour with one pop. She seemed happy with that.

OAH

P.S. I noticed that many of the girls in LA Cafe want to give you the impression that they "do not do this all the time". Does that make them more attractive to the punters? Is it believable?OAH,

I think you did ok.

I never paid more than 1200 peso for ST at LA cafe.

The price range is 1000 peso - 1500 for st and 1500 peso to 3000 for LT.

The girl upstair with mamasan will not go for less than 2500 peso.

Yes most girl there are part timers.

Everytime I go there I don't see the same girl but I think the girl at AC bar is better vaule and looks.

For model and hot girl you need to go to A KTV or sauna in Manila or Quezon city .

Fast eddie 48

Sxxxx
11-24-08, 20:29
Finally some mercy for visitors to Manila. The airport has finally established a proper meter taxi service, ............ Enjoy Manila! AsianRainThanks for the important clarification on this subject. Nice and clear now. Pics were a nice bonus too. Terminal 1 by the looks of it.

Can anyone confirm they have also seen this service outside Terminal 2 Philippine Airlines terminal ?

Cbea20
11-25-08, 00:19
There is a lot of Spanish 21. I have not bothered to learn the system for it. Living in California, I needed to supplement my income with counting trips to Nevada. Not here. Not yet.


Try the Hyatt Hotel/Casino. It is very near to LA Cafe. Don't know which particular part of Manila this is but it is very well known. The Casino is nice and clean. One of the few blackjack tables in the whole city. The ones near the airport are large but few or no BJ tables. Good luck

Also, they have a craps table here if anyone is interested.

Fedex
11-25-08, 01:34
The Hyatt is in Malate - I stayed across from it at the Executive Plaza Hotel.



Try the Hyatt Hotel/Casino. It is very near to LA Cafe. Don't know which particular part of Manila this is but it is very well known. The Casino is nice and clean. One of the few blackjack tables in the whole city. The ones near the airport are large but few or no BJ tables. Good luck

Also, they have a craps table here if anyone is interested.

Amavida
11-25-08, 01:48
Yeah you did good! Usually ST is anything less then three hours or sometimes one pop. The going rate at LA Cafe is around 1500 give or take. Of course there are exceptions and YMMV.
Compare this to AC where for p1200 i get a girl who stayed all night & popped me 6 times on the first night. Repeat BF she did me 8 times the second nite & third nite she was still CG'ing me while the hotel car is waiting downstairs to take me to the airport..
The prices in L.A. stink as far as I'm concerned. To each his own..
AV

Robbaf
11-25-08, 10:07
Can anyone confirm they have also seen this service outside Terminal 2 Philippine Airlines terminal ?Terminal 2/Centennial has a flat rate taxi service in between the international and domestic terminals. You walk straight from the "Hotel/Transportation" office, on right side walking out of arrival gate, and cross the first lane and you will see the booth on the sidewalk. They have a price list for each area and my last trip it was 330P to Makati. I always use this service, no meter and driver will not take his time getting to the hotel.

Robb

Key Master
11-25-08, 11:49
Thanks for the important clarification on this subject. Nice and clear now. Pics were a nice bonus too. Terminal 1 by the looks of it.

Can anyone confirm they have also seen this service outside Terminal 2 Philippine Airlines terminal ?

They do. Just go outside and look for the metered taxi sign with yellow taxi cabs lined up.

Blackangst
11-25-08, 17:39
Compare this to AC where for p1200 i get a girl who stayed all night & popped me 6 times on the first night. Repeat BF she did me 8 times the second nite & third nite she was still CG'ing me while the hotel car is waiting downstairs to take me to the airport..
The prices in L.A. stink as far as I'm concerned. To each his own..
AV

man i had a girl from body show stay with me for 16 hours' one pop per hour! she wouldnt leave me alone! then to top it off she reverse CG me all the way to the airport! Really!

White Wolf
11-25-08, 18:28
Thanks for the important clarification on this subject. Nice and clear now. Pics were a nice bonus too. Terminal 1 by the looks of it.

Can anyone confirm they have also seen this service outside Terminal 2 Philippine Airlines terminal ?

Yes they do. When you walk out from terminal 2 it's at your right side. It's jus a small walk, and of course past the 'regular, more expensive' taxi service. Just be prepared for a long wait. Earlier this year the number of taxis there was pretty low and the queue was getting longer and longer.

KongKing
11-25-08, 19:19
man i had a girl from body show stay with me for 16 hours' one pop per hour! she wouldnt leave me alone! then to top it off she reverse CG me all the way to the airport! Really! According to ISG Abbreviations we have:
CG = Call Girls
CG = Casino Girls
CG = Club Girls
In what context are you benefiting from a "reverse CG"???

Sxxxx
11-25-08, 19:38
Yes they do. When you walk out from terminal 2 it's at your right side. It's jus a small walk, and of course past the 'regular, more expensive' taxi service. Just be prepared for a long wait. Earlier this year the number of taxis there was pretty low and the queue was getting longer and longer.Thanks for that. You say , few of them there , long wait etc. Looks like yet another ingenious idea of the Filipinos is about to crash. They can start , but they can not sustain , unfortunately. I will await confirmation later on , of this new service's demise , lol.

Vittu
11-25-08, 19:39
That's nitpicking, KongKing, particularly since I am sure you knew perfectly wellwhat he meant. It may not be listed in the abbreviations but this is what abbreviations says under cowgirl:
Cowgirl CG, girl on top facing you.
Hope this helps you to figure out what was on the menu. I can draw you a picture if you still don't get it.

AsianLover2
11-25-08, 22:01
According to ISG Abbreviations we have:
CG = Call Girls
CG = Casino Girls
CG = Club Girls
In what context are you benefiting from a "reverse CG"???In this case CG = CowGirl

FunnyGoLucky
11-25-08, 23:09
Yeah you did good! Usually ST is anything less then three hours or sometimes one pop. The going rate at LA Cafe is around 1500 give or take. Of course there are exceptions and YMMV.

Yes I have met many women there that only occasionally turn tricks when they are desperate for cash. An example is when they come in from the provinces temporarily for some reason and end up at LA Cafe for a quick buck because the place is known far and wide.The girls comeing from the province are FRESCH and in NEED. So much beter compare to the regular!

Charlie Horse
11-25-08, 23:50
According to ISG Abbreviations we have:
CG = Call Girls
CG = Casino Girls
CG = Club Girls
In what context are you benefiting from a "reverse CG"???
Sounds like reverse Cow Girl

a primer from Cosmo mag:

http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/advice/questions/carnal-counselor-reverse-cowgirl

FreebieFan
11-26-08, 01:12
The new yellow cabs are great. Half the price of the coupon taxis... I usually arrive about 4-5pm..never seen a line..never had to wait at all.

In fact, amazing fact. Im usually one of first off economy, usually no immgration line at that time, have no checked baggage to collect, 15 secs to get in a yellow cab, and usually Im in my condo in Global city within 20- 25 mins from plane landing. Even faster than Singapore airport when you have no checked in baggage.

the Yellow cabs are a very good new feature.

HornyGeorge
11-26-08, 01:16
Terminal 2 is the same as any other. Just start walking with the flow of traffic (to the right) and you'll never get more than 100 meters from the terminal before an empty taxi who just dropped his passenger will proposition you. He cannot stop long to bargain, so just offer meter and as soon as he says OK throw your gear in the back seat and off you go.

You will not get the slip of paper with drivers license number but you yourself can jot it down once in the taxi. Get DRIVERS name from his ID, not just cab #. Taxis lose their permit if they get several complaints so just stick to the agreement if they whine about traffic etc and a tip. Better not to even discuss it again until you and your gear are out of the taxi.

Amavida
11-26-08, 01:58
man i had a girl from body show stay with me for 16 hours' one pop per hour! she wouldnt leave me alone! then to top it off she reverse CG me all the way to the airport! Really!I doff my hat to you sir.. man, the hotel car driver must have had a big woody & you must have been very sore.. hehehehe :D
AV

Amavida
11-26-08, 02:23
At the risk of igniting the great taxi flame war again.. I'd like to add a comment.

I spend a lot of time using taxi's in Manila (and elsewhere).

In my experience the yellow meter taxi's are costing me MORE on average to get from the airport to a hotel compared to the usual method of haggling a fixed price in a conventional street taxi. The last yellow meter cab I caught, there was a loonngg queue to stand in with much waiting, the driver sat in the car & left me to drag my luggage in to the back seat with me & the GF. The seating in the back of a Toyota sedan is small to start with, worse with baggage. The cab meandered around all over the the bloody place until I scolded him in Tagalog & told him I knew we were so stop stuffing about & go where we asked him to. My GF chimed in, he played the dumb newbie cabbie so we both told him directions very clearly where to go.. meanwhile the meter was ticking away...

Street taxi's I negotiate the fare & off we go. No need to keep an eye on which route the driver is taking.

Since often I have a girl in tow & luggage. Many times I prefer a nice comfortable roomy 'coupon taxi' people mover, no waiting, just pay & get in. These guys take care of your bags & let you get on with the important business of checking the various body cavities of your girl of moment while taking a leisurely drive to the hotel. The driver will take the best route based on traffic conditions & there is no pressure to watch where he is going because the fare is already paid.

If you are new to Manila it is harder because you don't know how much the fare should be & that is understandable. Bringing a chick with you is often not much help because a lot of these chicks from internet dating sites (for example) are from the province & live in a very small world of their local Manila barangay. Like all asians, to save face, they will act as if they know where they are going but dont count on it. Get yourself a Citymap street atlas from National Bookstore (p350?) & find your own way around yourself.

For anyone who is even a little familiar with Manila I have found you can do better MOST TIMES avoiding the Yellow meter taxi's at NAIA.
AV

Fast Eddie 48
11-26-08, 08:16
According to ISG Abbreviations we have:

CG = Call Girls
CG = Casino Girls
CG = Club Girls

In what context are you benefiting from a "reverse CG"???Kongking,

You are a newbie trying to stir up problems here.

There are no casino girl in the ISG abbreviation in your dreams.

Fast eddie 48

Buko Max
11-26-08, 09:04
The new yellow cabs are great. Half the price of the coupon taxis... I usually arrive about 4-5pm..never seen a line..never had to wait at all.Hi FF,

Yes I definitely agree with you but thats not the case at the new terminal. (Cebu Pacific) The line for the yellow cabs was lengthy because a taxi would only happen by every now and again.(about a 45 minute wait that day!) So I had no choice but to take a white, fixed price taxi. :mad:

KongKing
11-26-08, 09:27
That's nitpicking, KongKing, particularly since I am sure you knew perfectly wellwhat he meant. It may not be listed in the abbreviations but this is what abbreviations says under cowgirl:
Cowgirl CG, girl on top facing you.
Not nitpicking Vittu, just seeking clarification. Abbreviations can lead to ambiguity.

Actually I prefer MP myself.

I have tried CG a number of times but its good old MP that does the trick!

Key Master
11-26-08, 09:49
Hi FF,

Yes I definitely agree with you but thats not the case at the new terminal. (Cebu Pacific) The line for the yellow cabs was lengthy because a taxi would only happen by every now and again.(about a 45 minute wait that day!) So I had no choice but to take a white, fixed price taxi. :mad:

If the wait was going to be that long, then I would get a regular meter taxi that dropped off someone at the airport. They'll be happy to use their meter as getting a fare out of there is tougher than before with the new taxis. I don't know what all the fuss is about with negotiating fares with metered taxis. If they want to negotiate, then let him go. There's another taxi right behind who will use his meter.

Buko Max
11-26-08, 09:57
If the wait was going to be that long, then I would get a regular meter taxi that dropped off someone at the airport.
No can do because this was at the arrivals level with no clear way to get upstairs to the departure level.

Key Master
11-26-08, 09:58
One poster commented that they cost more than regular metered taxis. It is true but it's not that bad at all. It's convenient and it's right there when you leave the terminal. Just go for it if it's not a long wait and especially if you are kind of new. Trying to find a regular metered taxi will take a little work on your part and is probably not worth it to save on the pesos. It's definitely cheaper than taking those overpriced fixed cabs.

One more note on those yellow cabs, they usually only go one way with their fares from my understanding. They only usually take passengers from airport to another destination and not people to the airport. They aren't like regular metered taxis that will pick you up on the street, so for those guys to make money they need to get back to the airport to get another fare so they loose travel time depending on how far just to get back in line to get another fare.

For newbies also, the regular metered taxis aren't supposed to pickup passengers at the airport for some reason. They are only supposed to drop off. Just the opposite of the yellow ones. Go figure. That's part of the reason of the mess with getting transportation from the airport.

Puerto La Cruz
11-26-08, 11:14
When I have been traveling for 24 hours with three flights and little or no sleep, I really don't care about a $3.00 price difference on taxis and want to avoid the annoyance of trying to find the cheapest ride available. I want to get to my hotel, shower, shave, put clean clothes on and get to where I am going. If convenience is a $3.00 factor, I'm going to spend the three bucks. I just go to the "pay slip" taxi stand across the street from where I exit the international terminal, pay the money and shit and git.

Its an airport. You're gonna get screwed on a cup of coffee.

Key Master
11-26-08, 16:02
No can do because this was at the arrivals level with no clear way to get upstairs to the departure level.

I know it's not easy getting a regular meter, but there are ways. In the international terminal don't know number, I used to just walk down to the side where they exited and not up to the departure section to flag one down. They never tried to negotiate a fare and just turned on meter. Some people have too many bags to do it and I understand that. I'm not sure how the new terminal works for the metered taxis dropping off there as I've flown in twice there and never had a problem getting a yellow, but I'm sure I'd figure out how to get the metered taxis otherwise. I don't have more than a backpack and a rolling suitcase though.

In regards to some people who say what the hell on paying this and that by taking a price 4 x the cost of a metered, and then complain about 30-40 pesos later on other things, I don't know. No matter what people are going to have different views on the taxis. The whole debacle is all jacked up more from the governing body of the airports making it so difficult to get a legitimate value oriented transportation for the masses until recently with the yellow cabs. The locals can't be paying 400 plus pesos so easily for a 100 pesos ride all the time.

Blink157
11-26-08, 18:38
Hi to all,

I just arrived from my businestrip to Europe and I used the yellow airport taxis outside Terminal 1. They cost a bit more, but they are new and clean and they sureley will go the fastest (mach 3) way to your destination, because as one member mentioned here allready, they wont take any passengers back to the airport.

Of course you can also walk after a 24 hours long flight to your hotel, but I guess if you allready on a budget arriving at the airport and haggling about 3 Dollars more to pay for a comfortable save and clean ride then I would suggest stay at home, watch porn movies or read stories from ISG members who really went there :D

Changing a bit the topic now. Went yesterday with my friend to MU (Miss Universal, fromerly known as Miss Universe) Its located near Edsa complex, beside the city hall, near to a University, hehehe god I love the Philippines where its really obvious who will go there and who got his cut out of those busines, Amen.

Prices for girls by mamasan was BF 5000 or 6000, not sure if that was for LT or ST. You have to talk to the girl before hand how long she will stay with you.

Drinks for a girl start from 390 to 490 p , plus a table charge of 100p per hour. So drinks willl last one hour, where you can sit with the girl and get aquainted to her.

You will get a nice nude show on stage with good looking girls. I live here and Im chosy, so believe me, they good looking.

Of course I wouldnt pay the barfine. Its more fun to exchange phone numbers and take the chicks on the weekend out to the province like AC, Subic etc.

Went after that to Edsa Firehouse. Only dogs dancing there. Went to Makati Flamimgos and view some better looking girls, but they so busy with themself I gave it a loss. If so many guys paying the ridiclious prices (stupid) no wonder we get a lot primadonna attidues over there.

Ac is the place to go, there aint no argueing about that in the forum. For better quality visit the KTVs in Manila, try to make contact there, avoid paying ridiclious barfines.

God thanks, in two days its Friday and Im back in AC and I really really have problems who I gonna f..ck first and Im not Brad Pitt.

LG, life is good

Blink

Cansx
11-26-08, 21:22
When I have been traveling for 24 hours with three flights and little or no sleep, I really don't care about a $3.00 price difference on taxis and want to avoid the annoyance of trying to find the cheapest ride available. I want to get to my hotel, shower, shave, put clean clothes on and get to where I am going. If convenience is a $3.00 factor, I'm going to spend the three bucks. I just go to the "pay slip" taxi stand across the street from where I exit the international terminal, pay the money and shit and git.

Its an airport. You're gonna get screwed on a cup of coffee.Great point so tired about the taxi comments over a dollar here and there lets talk pussy or good music

Warbucks
11-27-08, 03:51
Great point so tired about the taxi comments over a dollar here and there lets talk pussy or good music


http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20081127-174574/Coed-abducted-by-angry-cabbie

Filipino taxi drivers are known for their elegance.

Keen Eye Joe
11-27-08, 05:28
I just returned from a 3 day quickie trip to Manila and thought I’d toss out my two cents about meeting women from internet websites, as well as picking up freelancers.

For a guy who likes picking up freelancers and is on a limited budget, I have found the most convenient place to stay in Manila is the Cherry Blossoms hotel, where the price for a large Deluxe room was around 2200 pesos ($45). The hotel offers a reasonably good free morning breakfast, and my room furnishings were dated but clean. I never saw any bugs, and the sheets and towels were not too dingy and were unstained.

It’s definitely not the Ritz Carlton, but it does have its advantages. First of all, it’s less than 100 yards from the Robinsons Mall, where there’s some relatively good restaurants and also cinemas during the times you get bored. Previous experience taught me that inviting your short-term conquest to go eat dinner at the mall, along with an invite to watch a movie is a darned good incentive for your short-term partner to become a long-term overnight stay for no extra money. There are also freelancers who operate there, and it’s nice to sit and chat with them over a cup of coffee while you negotiate the "deal".

Also, it’s just a couple of blocks away from the LA Café, which in my estimation is the best place in Manila to chat up and party with lots of fun gals without going broke in the process. There are no bar fines, no mama sans trying to extract drinks, and no huge premium for "ladies drinks".

I love Wan Chai in Hong Kong as much as the next guy, but a night there will put you in the poor house pretty quickly. The quality of the gals at the LA Café isn’t nearly as good as the Pinays in HK, but it’s good enough for me.

The LA Café isn’t for everyone, but if you’re a party guy like me you’ll have a great time. Just buy a tankard of beer and set it on the table. Have the waitress bring lots of glasses and trust me, you’ll have plenty of new friends who will rub up on you and do their best to get you to select them to be your conquest d‘jour.

I’ll admit that 80% of the women in there are not my cup of tea. But of the 100 or so women hanging out in the lower part of the café, you’re bound to find a handful that meet your specifications. I won’t bore you all with a rehashing of what I found at the café, since it’s been well documented in other postings here. I was talking to a couple of Yanks one night and prices are holding steady at 1500 Pesos short time and 2000 long time, and my offer of 1500 was readily accepted.

Don’t ever ever ever ask these gals "how much do you want? ". They will always come back with some ridiculous amount, like 3000 pesos. So just take the initiative and offer her what I suggested, and I rather doubt you will be rejected. It’s a buyer’s market, guys!

Before any of you flog me for offering too much money, 1500 pesos is only around $30. Trust me, holding out for 1200 saves you a whopping 300 pesos, or $6. And what gal is going to give you any sort of "girl friend" experience if you haggle her down too far?

Ok, enough of the mundane details, on to the women! On this trip I bedded 3 gals. One was from the LA Café, one was a freelancer at the Robinson’s Mall, and one was a longtime chat-mate from blossoms.com (marriage-minded website).

The internet gal was 36 years old, originally from GenSan but now working in Manila at a small independent local clothing store with her sister. Probably a 6 on the looks scale. Somewhat pretty face, long hair, petite body with absolutely no fat. She showed up wearing black knee-length tights with lots of lace on the hems, with a long dress-like spaghetti strap top and wearing 2 ˝ inch black sandal heels. I’m sure you perfectionists would have turned your noses up at her, but meeting her was more about having someone to talk to rather than simply having a sex conquest. After a week of being in Bangkok with single-word-sentence speaking Thai women, I was really looking forward to chatting with someone who could speak good English.

I had told her prior to my visit that I was just coming for a short stay, and was not looking for marriage at this time. But we had been casual chat mates at the website and later at the Yahoo Messenger, so she agreed to meet me as a friend.

I arrived on a Wednesday night and we met up on Thursday morning. I’ve met other women from this website on previous trips, and my encounter with Malou went along very similar to those.

She came to my hotel at 11 AM, and we engaged in a small amount of chit-chat. I had brought some candy bars from the USA (I find the large $1. 50 license-plate sized Hershey variety candy bars travel well and make a well-received gift). I gave her 4 of them and she was very happy. Yeah, I know I’m a big spender, LOL. But you have to remember that 90% or more of the women in the Phils are very poor, so even small gifts are really appreciated.

I then suggested going to the mall to go walking around, which of course she readily agreed to. We left the candy bars in the hotel room (gents, always leave the gifts in the room, so she has to come back up there with you, haha). It was lunch time, so I asked her where she wanted to eat. Of course she said, "it’s up to you". I’ve never had a pinay ever tell me what type of food she was hungry for. For most of them, it’s a treat just to go out to eat at any sit-down restaurant for a free meal.

Manila really is a shit-hole of a city, but one thing it does have going for it is a pretty darned good pizza chain. It’s called "Yellow Cab Pizza" and it can be found in just about all of the major malls. I suggested we go there, and we shared a small pizza. Since she was very petite (4’ 10" and 90 pounds) she only ate one slice, which left me to eat the other 7 slices. Thank God all that cheese didn’t leave me bloated and blocked, haha.

After the pizza, we went up to the top level and played bingo. Yes, bingo! She had never played and was interested in learning how. We spent about an hour there and wasted about $10 in non-winning cards. But she had a really great time, and as we left the bingo hall she reached out and grabbed my hand as we strolled through the mall back to the hotel.

My vanity leads me to believe that it’s my great looks and charm that gets Cherry Blossoms women into bed so easily on the first date, haha. But I really do think that playing bingo is the key. Whether I’m in Manila, Cebu, or Davao. . Bingo before bed always works like a charm.

So we walked the 100 yards back to the hotel, and of course she had to come up and retrieve those candy bars. What happened next was predictable. . Within 2 minutes of entering the room we’re both groping each other like teenagers, and within 10 minutes I’m going to my overnight bag for a condom.

She then proceeded to drain me dry over the next 18 hours or so. Joe turned on the faucet 4 times, which is quite a lot for this 47 year old fart. My dick was sore from friction by the next morning and I had used up 8 condoms. She was simply insatiable. I can’t say I was sorry to see her go. She had to start packing because she was leaving MNL the next day to fly to GenSan for the holidays. Yes, she was heading home for a two month vacation. Man I wish my boss would be so accommodating!

She was living in Quezon City, which is quite a long haul from Malate. So I gave her 500 pesos to compensate her for the transportation fare to and from my hotel. Of course I lied to her and said I really hoped we could meet up again someday in the future. I think that’s what gets these women to "open up" to us so readily. . The hope that some guy from overseas will fall in love with her and whisk her away from her dreary and mundane life. As long as the Phils remains a poverty-stricken nation, there will always be willing prospects at the internet dating websites.

One other piece of advice about internet dating websites: I read somewhere that 25% of the women at any internet website normally get 75% of the mails from men. Sooooo, if you want to maximize your chances of getting a "sure thing", then concentrate on the other 75%. There are some really fine looking ladies out there between the ages of 30 to 38, and all 10 of the blossoms ladies I’ve met in person have found their way to my hotel room by at least the second date. Plus I’ve found the older ones don’t ask for "Sponsorship" (which is a fancy word for financial support). I try to stick with ones who work in white collar professions, like teachers or government employees.

I never tell the women I am traveling to the Phils to look for marriage. Instead, I say I am going there as a tourist. Telling them you are heading to Corregidor Island for a visit is very convincing, because they realize how historical of a place it is. I also say that I am checking out the Phils because I am considering moving there when I retire from work in about 5 to 10 years. Of course if I met a woman there who really knocked my socks off, I would certainly consider marriage. But I always let them know I am not actively seeking right now, but instead am looking for friends. And I remind them that who knows what the future will bring for she and I. It’s that glimmer of hope that will work in your favor, guys.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Keen Eye Joe
11-27-08, 06:02
If you’re looking for freelancers at the Robinson’s Mall, the best spot I’ve found is to walk through the first floor over to the National Book Store. It’s located in a circular area near an escalator. On the right side of the escalator are a couple of coffee and pastry shops with tables and chairs in front. If you go during the middle of the afternoon, you will find a couple of gals sitting and giving you the eye. It’s also the area of the mall where a handful of women will be walking around slowly in their "hooker stroll". If you see one you like, give her "the eye" and wait for a willing response.

I spent a lot of time wandering around the upper level food courts but never had one contact. Even when I stood and looked over the rail at the lower levels, no one ever came up to me and initiated conversation.

To be honest, I’m not sure why someone would prefer freelancers at the mall over those at the LA Café. But I will admit the mall is a much quieter and cleaner environment, and it’s a nice place to chat. Plus the light is better than in the café, so you can get a better look at your prospect.

I did pick up one freelancer during the middle of the day. I’ve attached some photos of her. She asked for 1500 Pesos short time, but because I really wasn’t in the mood for anything, I decided to counter and offer 1000 P. To my surprised she agreed, and soon after I was strolling to the hotel with my prize.

I think her name was Jerilyn, or something like it. She is 21 years old, with one son. But her body was flawless, with no signs of motherhood anywhere. Nice and tight in ALL places. I don’t normally like women who are that thin, but she had a cute face and was dressed just the way I like’em.

For those of you who have heard that the Harrison Plaza is a good place to pick up freelancers, don’t bother! I took a jeepney there during a weekday afternoon and went up to the second floor to look around. Yes, there are women there, but I was disgusted at the quality of what I found. I was hit up by a handful of pimps offering fugly women for 1500 P short time. I talked to a couple of unpimped women and they wanted 2000 P. No sense of reality at all, haha.

There is a Sogo hotel nearby, so I guess it’s a convenient place to do business if you don’t want to take one back to your hotel. But the mall is old and depressing, and the women there are no bargain. Stick to the LA Café.

Aussiec
11-27-08, 07:40
I was in Cebu City last year in market place when I purchased item in a market place. Only when I gave merchant P1000. He did some fast action with his hands to show I gave P100. I argued but to no avail. I decide that that being foreignor I would lose out anyway. Next day my friend was in the same area and was going to buy large wood carvings for P4500. I did not realize he was at same vendor as transaction was to happen and item being wrapped I showed up and told him the this is vendor that rip me off. My mate said to merchant he change his mind. The merchant was pissed and knew why. Saying owe you agreed to buy and now you must pay. My friend said NO. Until money in your hand no transaction been made and we walked off. Merchant came back and said he give item for P3500 and that way I could have my P1000 back. We said No thanks.

Fast Eddie 48
11-27-08, 08:23
[QUOTE=Daddy Warbucks 1]http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20081127-174574/Coed-abducted-by-angry-cabbie



to daddy

I agree with Daddy It is not the money,It is the principal of getting rip off.
They will rip you off every time if they know they can get away with it.
Only the taxi driver in Indoneasia is worst than Manila.




Fast eddie 48

Cunning Stunt
11-28-08, 08:12
If you’re looking for freelancers at the Robinson’s Mall, the best spot I’ve found is to walk through the first floor over to the National Book Store. It’s located in a circular area near an escalator. On the right side of the escalator are a couple of coffee and pastry shops with tables and chairs in front. If you go during the middle of the afternoon, you will find a couple of gals sitting and giving you the eye. It’s also the area of the mall where a handful of women will be walking around slowly in their "hooker stroll". If you see one you like, give her "the eye" and wait for a willing response.


Guess you mean Figaro's coffee shop. I've noticed a couple of FL's there but they were pretty rough. You often see an amateur or two waiting near the National Book Store but you will have to make the first approach. Be careful though as it is a recognised meeting point for regular girls meeting their boyfriends/family. Another place to try is at McDonalds on the second floor/also near the cinema's on that floor.

You will often see regular LA Cafe girls trawling Robinsons for business. Gets them out of the smoky atmosphere of the LA Cafe, I guess.

Another good mall for picking up FL's is Harrison's Plaza, but a lot of the girls hanging out there are regular pro's.

GH

HornyGeorge
11-28-08, 23:47
Mattrick: Have not used T3 yet BUT I am CERTAIN the same method will work. You just need to walk (with traffic) to where the upstairs flyover ends then find an empty taxi who dropped his passenger.

I do not think the difference is only $3 and for me it is the principle. As another member said no way the Pinoys are paying 500P for a ride that would cost 100 on the meter.

Fast Eddie:

I have yet to ever hear of anybody being overcharged by a Bluebird Group taxi in Indonesia. EVER. I can count on one hand the times I've taken a NON BB taxi and did get ripped on one of those occasions by a fast meter. I just wish Manila had a Blue Bird Group style taxi service.

Fast Eddie 48
11-29-08, 07:23
Mattrick: Have not used T3 yet BUT I am CERTAIN the same method will work. You just need to walk (with traffic) to where the upstairs flyover ends then find an empty taxi who dropped his passenger.

I do not think the difference is only $3 and for me it is the principle. As another member said no way the Pinoys are paying 500P for a ride that would cost 100 on the meter.

Fast Eddie:

I have yet to ever hear of anybody being overcharged by a Bluebird Group taxi in Indonesia. EVER. I can count on one hand the times I've taken a NON BB taxi and did get ripped on one of those occasions by a fast meter. I just wish Manila had a Blue Bird Group style taxi service.Horny George,

I did know about Blue bird. Taxis in Jarkata use meters but in smaller cities like Bali and Surabaya there are not many around.

I once had a taxi driver in Bali tell me he will kill me if I don't paid him 10 usd for a short 15 min trip.

Like in Manila, only one out of three use meter.

Fast eddie 48

Poopbunny
11-29-08, 23:49
Re Taxi's: It could be worse if you were at Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport.
The official airport taxis are Bht3000 to Pattaya where you can get other taxi/limos for no more than Bht1500. This is worse because it is the "official" ones that are trying to rip you off, and rip you off big time, not just a few dollars.

I will be heading to Manila on Jan 1 - Jan 3 from AC. Probably arrive via Swagmans. Then take a taxi to Makati.

I figured from reading the posts, Cafe Havana, Greenbelt3 is my best bet for quality. Can anyone recommend GF hotel in the US$80/night (+/-) range that is walking distance to Havana? What precentage of girls at Havana would be FL? Are they easy to spot? How do you spot FL at nearby malls?

I'm just there for a couple of days so I'm not planning to be too ambitious, if I don't get to scope LA Cafe, EDSA, Nana, I can always do that on another trip. I like to start small to get a feel for the place, maybe be a little more streetwise.

If anyone is planning to be around Manila during that time please PM, maybe we could scope the talent together or just catch up for a beer.

Fedex
11-30-08, 01:39
KEJ:

You right on the money. My friend Mike was approached at the Robinson Mall twice at the same point you mentioned.

Looks like you scored a cutie for a heck of a deal! Congrats!

Fedex

[QUOTE=Keen Eye Joe]If you’re looking for freelancers at the Robinson’s Mall, the best spot I’ve found is to walk through the first floor over to the National Book Store. It’s located in a circular area near an escalator. On the right side of the escalator are a couple of coffee and pastry shops with tables and chairs in front. If you go during the middle of the afternoon, you will find a couple of gals sitting and giving you the eye. It’s also the area of the mall where a handful of women will be walking around slowly in their "hooker stroll". If you see one you like, give her "the eye" and wait for a willing response.

I spent a lot of time wandering around the upper level food courts but never had one contact. Even when I stood and looked over the rail at the lower levels, no one ever came up to me and initiated conversation.

To be honest, I’m not sure why someone would prefer freelancers at the mall over those at the LA Café. But I will admit the mall is a much quieter and cleaner environment, and it’s a nice place to chat. Plus the light is better than in the café, so you can get a better look at your prospect.

I did pick up one freelancer during the middle of the day. I’ve attached some photos of her. She asked for 1500 Pesos short time, but because I really wasn’t in the mood for anything, I decided to counter and offer 1000 P. To my surprised she agreed, and soon after I was strolling to the hotel with my prize.

Jimmy Red Cab
11-30-08, 12:14
i figured from reading the posts, cafe havana, greenbelt3 is my best bet for quality. can anyone recommend gf hotel in the us$80/night (+/-) range that is walking distance to havana? what precentage of girls at havana would be fl? are they easy to spot? how do you spot fl at nearby malls?

i'm just there for a couple of days so i'm not planning to be too ambitious, if i don't get to scope la cafe, edsa, nana, i can always do that on another trip. i like to start small to get a feel for the place, maybe be a little more streetwise.



nana is actually in bangkok ------ unless there is another one in manila that i missed.

regarding cafe havana, it is certainly worth a try but bear in mind this place is quite small and the vast majority of people will be sitting outside, sometimes it is hard to find a seat.
this place is nothing like la cafe, on the nights i went there i saw very few obvious freelancers, many couples etc sitting at the tables.

Primo Bolan
11-30-08, 13:38
Thanks! Good reports. I will try your advices when in MNLA.

PB

Poopbunny
11-30-08, 14:24
Nana is actually in Bangkok ------ unless there is another one in Manila that I missed.

Regarding Cafe Havana, it is certainly worth a try but bear in mind this place is quite small and the vast majority of people will be sitting outside, sometimes it is hard to find a seat.
This place is NOTHING like LA Cafe, on the nights I went there I saw very few obvious freelancers, many couples etc sitting at the tables.

Yeah, no Nana in Manila, I just misread one of the earlier post comparing Manila vs Bangkok.

I guess if I strike out with Havana, I can always go for one of the go-gos at Makati like Flamingo etc..

If I stay at, say, the Intercontinental, is bringing FL's back going to be a problem?

Thanks

Warbucks
11-30-08, 14:38
if i stay at, say, the intercontinental, is bringing fl's back going to be a problem?

thanks

it's gf... security will ask you to sign her in....stayed there back in jan excellent hotel.

Knobrm
11-30-08, 15:12
Thanks for advise. Seems that due to Thai protests my off-route trip will point towards Manila then even if a bit less convenient than stopping by in BKK. But at least get the benefit of familiarizing with the local pussy and making hands-on assesment on Thai vs Phil ladies.

Knob


I generally agree but would put it a little differently on the basis of what you want.

If you want a wham-bam go-for-it experience in the bar or back at the hotel choose Bangkok.

If you prefer some level of conversation and a more GFE type experience choose Manila.

For the GFE experience I would say that Saigon is becoming a strong rival with all the gals there that want to learn english.

KyCuriosity
11-30-08, 18:10
How do you get to LA Cafe from Manila airport hotel? I'm staying there my last night and I would like to at least visit LA Cafe on my last day, just to see what place you guys are talking about, even if I don't take a girl back to my hotel.

Jay

Jimmy Red Cab
11-30-08, 19:33
i guess if i strike out with havana, i can always go for one of the go-gos at makati like flamingo etc..



thanks

i hope you are aware of the prices in makati, many of the bars on p.borgos charge 3900 barfine and 390 ladydrink, the girls expect a hefty tip and there is no guarantee they will stay the night.

Key Master
11-30-08, 21:26
I hope you are aware of the prices in Makati, many of the bars on P.Borgos charge 3900 barfine and 390 ladydrink, the girls expect a hefty tip and there is no guarantee they will stay the night.

I second that, and I think you should go back and research more for your trip to Manila. There's a lot here to help guide you. You will pay for it in Makati.

hangong
11-30-08, 22:00
Does anyone have any idea how much it costs to play at this KTV? Such as,

Room charge,

Tips for the ladies to sit together,

Tips for the manangers

Cost to take GROs out for overnight, etc.

Would appreciate if any details could be offered.

GoodEnough
11-30-08, 23:38
re taxi's: it could be worse if you were at bangkok suvarnabhumi airport.
the official airport taxis are bht3000 to pattaya where you can get other taxi/limos for no more than bht1500. this is worse because it is the "official" ones that are trying to rip you off, and rip you off big time, not just a few dollars.

i will be heading to manila on jan 1 - jan 3 from ac. probably arrive via swagmans. then take a taxi to makati.

i figured from reading the posts, cafe havana, greenbelt3 is my best bet for quality. can anyone recommend gf hotel in the us$80/night (+/-) range that is walking distance to havana? what precentage of girls at havana would be fl? are they easy to spot? how do you spot fl at nearby malls?

i'm just there for a couple of days so i'm not planning to be too ambitious, if i don't get to scope la cafe, edsa, nana, i can always do that on another trip. i like to start small to get a feel for the place, maybe be a little more streetwise.

if anyone is planning to be around manila during that time please pm, maybe we could scope the talent together or just catch up for a beer.

unlike la cafe, havana, and the starbucks next to it are "normal" places that are not exclusive to freelancers. however, there are lots of them hanging around both places and they're very easy to spot. just look for the girls sitting alone, or sometimes in pairs, and wait for some eye contact. a couple of times, when i wasn't really sure if a girl was in the business or not, i sent a drink to her table, and when she looked up and smiled and thanked me, i asked her to come on over. it's worked both times that i have tried it.

ge

Poopbunny
12-01-08, 07:02
I second that, and I think you should go back and research more for your trip to Manila. There's a lot here to help guide you. You will pay for it in Makati.

Yikes! How hefty a tip?
Don't they already get half the large BF like in AC?

I was studying maps and google earth last night. Quite difficult to get a sense of scale, but at least the roads seem straight between Ayala (Makati) and LA Cafe (Malate) and EDSA (Pasay)

Fedex
12-01-08, 07:30
KYC,

Go to the airport METERED Taxi (make sure the meter is working and do not settle for a fixed price) and ask to go to LA Cafe. I believe it's on the Malate / Ermita border.

I stayed at the Executive Plaza Hotel in Malate (behind the Hyatt) and it was a 3 minutes walk to LA Cafe.

From the airport - on a Sunday morning - it took 25 minutes and 190p (less tha $4) - I gave the driver 250p.

On the way back to the airport, it took 20 minutes on a Tuesday afternoon (The driver was unpleasant - didn't stop talking and his opinions were annoying and racial). The meter showed 120P and I gave him 140p (Less tha $3).



How do you get to LA Cafe from Manila airport hotel? I'm staying there my last night and I would like to at least visit LA Cafe on my last day, just to see what place you guys are talking about, even if I don't take a girl back to my hotel.

Jay

FreebieFan
12-01-08, 08:57
Nice comment Poohbunny. And maybe on google earth they DO seem straight. But I can only say having driven there many times on dark nights harassing and being harassed by one eyed jeepneys (the ones with only one light in middle of front bumber! ). And having a brown eyed sweetie fiddling in my boxers, I can tell you that its the " long and winding road" and its the most unstraight road! But in a taxi with no one in your shorts it might seem straighter. LOL

Martyb
12-01-08, 11:29
Been here for 2 nights now. I got tons of information from the board, so once again, thanks!

The first night was spent at hollywood on Burgoes Street. Second night at LA Cafe. So far my vote is LA Cafe. Getting ready for dinner so I post details next.

Jimmy Red Cab
12-01-08, 16:17
yikes! how hefty a tip?
don't they already get half the large bf like in ac?




you can't compare the bars of p.borgos with angeles city.

in ac a 500 peso tip would be well received.

in p.borgos you are looking at 2500+

Martyb
12-02-08, 10:15
I got here Saturday night. The flight was delayed, so by the time I checked in to the hotel, showered at was ready to leave it was a little after 2am. Because of the time I figured I'd go someplace close to the hotel. I ended up at Hollywood on Burgos ST. It must have been a really slow night. When I walked in I was the only guy there. I was immediately mauled by about 14 women. They ranged anywhere from a 6 to maybe an 8. I was seated at the bar and surrounded by the ladies. Ordered and drank me beer while being asked the typical questions, where you from, first time here, etc. All the while I was having my back massaged, legs rubbed, getting the reach around from the girls behind me. It was great. I finished me first beer, ordered a second and the bartender starting asking about Lady Drinks. I said not right now. I needed to figure out which of these ladies was going to be my special lady. While be molested by 14 women was fun, it was a little overwhelming. I had to figure out who to pick. As time went by the girls I ignored started to leave me. This gave me a chance to scope out the one I wanted.

She was sitting 3 seats down being shy, and not at all aggressive. She wasn't the hottest girl there, but I liked her attitude. I told the bartender to give her a drink, and the others left us alone.

We chatted for a little bit, but I didn't pay much attention to what she said. The bartender mentioned something like a 3000P bar fine. I said no thank you. I got up to go the bathroom, and when I got back I slipped my girl a piece of paper from the hotel with my room number on it. She smiled and said see you later. When I asked for my bill, they tried to add the bar fine to my total. I said no thank you, and she promptly removed it. Beers were, I think, 160P and 300 something for lady drinks.

I got back to the hotel, and 45 mins. Later there was a knock on my door. I told the security guard at the door that I was expecting a guest and they escorted her to my room (how nice). We chatted, she took a shower, and down to business.

Like I said, she was about a 7, skinny, nice tits, and a shaved kitty. We started making out, lots of rubbing, DFK. Over to the bed for a BBBJ that was okay, Lots of tongue, and licking and sucking the boys, but not much penis in mouth action. She did a pretty good job though. Rolled her over for some DATY, she started the fake moaning thing. Although after a couple of minute stroking her clit with my tongue, the fake moans became real. There is no faking the whole body shudder, goose bump on her thighs, and a really wet pussy. She came twice, then begged me to fuck her. First we went at it Mish, then her on top, spun her around for reverse CG, and finished doggie, as I tore the cover off and finished on her ass and back, She didn't seem to mind.

Rolled over and went to bed.

A couple hours of sleep and woke up with Morning Wood. I just happen to have a naked Filipino next to me, how convenient. I gently woke her up with a stiffie rubbing her ass and a soft reach around to her clit. She moaned, got wet and I slipped on the cover. I did her from behind until she was fully awake. Then doggie, Mish and finished on her tits. She got up and took a shower.

Money Time: She showered got dressed and asked for 2500P, I chuckled and countered with 1000P, she frowned. I smiled, gave her 1500P and sent here on the way. All in all, it was worth 1500P, I'm not complaining.

I really like the 'slip them your hotel and room number thing' to avoid the bar fine. It worked well that night because I got there so late. I figure if I do it earlier, I'll have to wait until after 3am when she gets off work.

Gosh I just love Asia!

Next report Day 2 at LA Cafe

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FreebieFan
12-03-08, 00:57
I remember Hollywood as being the first bar I got molested in when I first moved to Manila in 1998. Three gals all working on my cock.

Haven't been back there since as it always seems to have desperate gasl hanging around outside. (Unlike the classly gasl that hang around outside the other bars. LOL) Anyways, thanks for the report MartyB. Gave me a morning smile at old memories and mammaries.

Buko Max
12-03-08, 01:26
The last few times I visited Manila, I jumped into one of those nice new yellow taxis. Both times the driver took a short cut turning off onto Airport Rd. on the way towards Ermita. There was a section with go go clubs and KTV's lining both sides of the street with women standing out in front of some of the clubs! Has any of you Manila regulars or residents checked out any of these places?

Kycuriosity: Just grab a cab as it's only 11 kms. from the airport hotel.

Michi
12-03-08, 11:09
The last few times I visited Manila, I jumped into one of those nice new yellow taxis. Both times the driver took a short cut turning off onto Airport Rd. on the way towards Ermita. There was a section with go go clubs and KTV's lining both sides of the street with women standing out in front of some of the clubs! Has any of you Manila regulars or residents checked out any of these places?

Kycuriosity: Just grab a cab as it's only 11 kms. from the airport hotel.Maybe he went through the Baclaran area of clubs near carlton hotel and Roxas. Very low class venues, as a foreigner you are almost alone there, but some VERY nice girls hidden in between.

Have fun,

Mike

Martyb
12-03-08, 11:47
I heard so much about the LA Café on the board, I had to check it out. This is just my opinion, but I think I found my new prowling grounds.

Sunday night, a little bit of traffic, but just 20 minutes by cab from the Intercontinental. Metered taxi ride for 150P. I got there around 10: 30. The place was really crowded. I was took a seat at the bar and ordered a SM, 110P. There was a great variety of women, young, old, and older. The range was from a 5 to 9. 5. There was maybe one or two I might call a 10, but you could just see the attitude. I was approached by several girls trying to make the typical small talk. Most were attractive, just not what I had in mind for the evening. They would always ask if I was waiting for someone. The best thing I came up with was to tell them I was waiting for my girlfriend. This wasn’t really a lie, I was waiting for a girlfriend, I just didn’t find her yet. I just made small talk and kept scanning the bar for my girlfriend. The big thing I noticed, try to avoid making too much eye contact. Eye contact, and they come over. Even the ugly ones! So I spend the evening looking for the tiny waist I wanted.

After a couple of beers, I found her. She said her name was Angel. Young looking, cute, Short, with a nicely athletic built body. She was really fit. Her rack was nice too. We chatted for a bit, I bought her a couple of Baily’s. She said she was a student and lived 1. 5 hours away. (has anyone heard that story? ). Anyways, I invite her back to the hotel.

Cab ride back to the hotel was a rip-off of sorts. He charged me 200P, I didn’t want to argue just paid. While we were walking in to the hotel, I got a smile and a thumbs up from my friend the doorman. The we were off to the room.

Up at the room she asks for a juice from the mini-bar, and goes in to take a shower. While she was in the shower my curiosity got the best of me. She was carrying a little pouch, kind of like a fanny back without the belt straps. Well, I was wondering just what does a student who comes all the way to LA Café carry in such a little bag. So I looked. Nothing much, Condoms make-up, etc. What surprised was the Employee ID Card. It was from a well known large corporation known through out the world. Maybe a student but defiantly employed locally.

She comes out of the shower in the hotel robe loosely tied. She looked even better in the hotel light. Chatted, made out, DFK, off to the bed. She gave the same BBBJ like the other night. Lots of tongue on the shaft, near my ass, and even nibbled on the boys. Just no mouth action. She took a lot of time cleaning up any pre-come that dribbled. Just when I thought it was going to be a lame BJ, she asked for the cover. On with the cover and she proceeded to give me one of the best blow jobs I have ever had. It was like porn head, head bobbing, looked up at my eyes. She took it all the way in for an awesome deep throat action. I had to stop her a couple times. She blew me for probably 10 mins.

I spun her over and went at her gash in a 69. Juicy pussy with a finger in her ass. She loved it. After a while I went for the penetration. Typical stuff, Mish, CG, RCG, and finished from behind. She really had a tight pussy. But wasn’t really loud, just softly moaned.

We fell asleep in each others arms. I woke her up the next day with some morning wood, and sent her on her way.

Beers and drinks at the LA Café…700P
Taxi ride to hotel…200P
Night with a cute “college student” 1500P
Awesome Deep Throat BJ…..Priceless

Man, I love Asia

Side note:

I’ve heard a lot of mixed opinions about the LA Café. What I can say is, There is defiantly a good mix of women. While I don’t mind being molested by 5 or 6 women (maybe even more) like the bar on Burgoes ST, I hate Bar Fines. I haven’t made it up stairs at LA Café. I seemed to me that most of the hotter girls were going up stairs. I just may have to check that out next.

For me, you have variety, with the thrill of the chase. With no waiting until after the girl gets off work to avoid the bar fine.

Unless someone knows another sure thing, prowling bar like LA Café. I’ll keep making the 20 Min. taxi ride there.

X Man
12-03-08, 14:03
i was reluctant to answer since i've been in only one bar and have fucshit info..

as a non native -- you will be very popular. try not to get yourself raped. have your phone card ready.......


the last few times i visited manila, i jumped into one of those nice new yellow taxis. both times the driver took a short cut turning off onto airport rd. on the way towards ermita. there was a section with go go clubs and ktv's lining both sides of the street with women standing out in front of some of the clubs! has any of you manila regulars or residents checked out any of these places?

kycuriosity: just grab a cab as it's only 11 kms. from the airport hotel.

Martyb
12-04-08, 00:02
I stayed in on Monday night to catch up on some sleep. I think the time change got to me. Or maybe it was the lack of sleep from the past two nights.

After a good night sleep and a long day at work, I was ready to go out. So. Back to LA Café. Got down to the lobby and out front I was met by my new buddy, the doorman. He smiled and said "LA Café tonight". The taxi ride there was around 25 mins. And 130P this time.

Took a seat at the bar. This time I sat closer to the men’s room. There seemed to be a nice collection of girls that gathered around that area. Had a couple beers, and checked out the action. Same mix as Sunday night. Even a couple of girls who recognized me from the other night that stopped by to say hello. I just told them the same thing, I’m waiting for my girlfriend.

This time, I’m on a mission. I have a goal. Really young, but legal (I’m horny, not a perv.) Tiny, tiny waist, nice tits. As close to a 10 as I can get. Geez, I sound so needy. There were a couple of potentials, and I was working on them when my "student" from the night before shows up. She is back with two friends. One really hot chick with lightened hair and a crappy attitude, and another with looks that are a step below her. Still worthy, just not what I had in mind. We talked a while and they kept commenting and joking about how obvious I was when a girl walked by. Hey, did I mention I was on a mission.

Well, I’m not sure if Angel was the kind to kiss and tell, but her friend (not the really hot one) kept checking me out with these fuck me eyes. Not the kind you get from the working girls. But eyes that said I want you. I’m not sure if they talked to each other about our night before. I can only assume. As the beers went down, she started looking even better. She had a really great attitude and this made me change my agenda. Angel wanted my to take both of them back. I said unless they are lesbians, I’m not interested. I ended up leaving with the friend. Angel was a little jealous, but I’m sure she got over it.

We got a cab outside. The driver said 300P. I said no way, I’ll give you 200P. He said okay. As soon as the cab started moving, this chick was all over me. Kissing, licking my neck and ears. Rubbing my crotch, pinching nipples. I loved it.

Got back to the hotel. Once in the elevator she started again. I could have probably done her on the elevator. I’m sure it was a nice show for sercurity. Once in the room we showered together. She blew me in the shower. Toweled off and hit the bed. Awesome BBBJ, with lots of tongue, deep throat, etc

DATY with a clean shaved kitty. She was really a moaner. I tried to get her to talk dirty to me, but she was shy. After a little coaxing, she started. She really seemed to get in to it and was really talking hot. Slipped on the cover and went at it Mish. I turned her over and started doing her from behind. I gave her the reach around on her clit and she just got wetter. I lubed up my finger with her juice and slid it in her ass. She let out a loud maon, and seemed to enjoy it. I asked if I could do her in the ass, and she said no. I kept asking but she wouldn’t give. So I just kept doing her from behind with my finger sliding in her ass. We were going at pretty hard and she just kept getting louder. Then she had a massive orgasm and gushed all over the bed. She made a HUGE wet spot. She seemed a little embarrassed about it. She said that has never happened to her before. But she liked it. I told her not to worry about it, It just meant I did my job right. She tried to clean the bed with a towel.

I was really worn out after all that. I handed her 1500P and sent her on her way. 1500P might be a little high for a short time, but it was worth it to me. Except, I wish we would have picked one side of the bed other or the other, Because now I was stuck sleeping in the wet spot. I bet it was a nice surprise for housekeeping.

Side note: One thing I noticed, if you smoke, keep your smokes in your pocket, not sitting on the bar. I left my pack on the bar the first night and I must have given out have the pack to the girls who stopped by asking "one cigarette for me please".

Once again, so far LA Café is my favorite place. I’ll be heading there again tonight (Wed.) and the probably the next 3 more evenings. I'm still looking for a different bar with a similar set up (take-out, with no bar fines) please let me know. A change of scenery is always nice. The only thing that would be better is if I could call and order in what I wanted!

Man, I love Asia

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FreebieFan
12-04-08, 01:06
Yes this is the Baclaran area. Lots of girls who work in Burgos live in this area. Going into these bars are fun. You wil probably be ripped off in every one by at least one ladies drink. You maybe ignored as you will be the only white guy there. But then you might be mobbed too.

Best one I know is Ms World. As its got the easiest place to park. That way I can go there. And if I need to leave in a hurry. My car is right there.

Theres always lots of taxis there too tho at night.

Go abnd explore. But if th atmosphere doesn't seem right or some drunken Pinoy comes to talk. Walk away.

Blackangst
12-04-08, 20:10
Once again, so far LA Café is my favorite place. I’ll be heading there again tonight (Wed.) and the probably the next 3 more evenings. I'm still looking for a different bar with a similar set up (take-out, with no bar fines) please let me know. A change of scenery is always nice. The only thing that would be better is if I could call and order in what I wanted!

Man, I love Asia



Check out Gspot bar. It only about 3 blocks from LA Cafe in Padre Faura
(between Mabini & Adriatico) in between LA Cafe and Robinsons mall. From LA walk out the doors and take a left a couple blocks. Or ask a cabby (not in front of LA Cafe though. G-spot is a nice quieter bar than LA, smaller and a little more intimate. The selection is hit and miss so be warned. But its the same type of free lancer bar.

Puerto La Cruz
12-05-08, 02:27
Its called G Point. Much more of a respectable place. Just like an ordinary bar where you live but most of the girls are available. I always found many more and higher quality in LA Cafe. You jusgotta wait it out. Its always there at LA.

Soapy Smith
12-05-08, 06:28
Its called G Point. Much more of a respectable place. Just like an ordinary bar where you live but most of the girls are available. I always found many more and higher quality in LA Cafe. You jusgotta wait it out. Its always there at LA.

It's also an okay place to take a girl for a bite to eat and a drink after you've plucked her from LA Cafe. The food is decent and the menu is oriented to European and maybe a few American dishes. Prices may be a little higher than the baseline Filipino restaurants but cheaper than you'd pay back home and definitely lower than the fancier places in the front areas of Robinson's Place Mall. I ordered a fish and chips dinner and the portions were twice what I could handle. I took half the order out in a styrofoam box, and since I was headed back to LA after an earlier unsuccessful hunt, I didn't mind when a little kid begged me for food along the street. I would have felt really stupid carrying it into LA, and the kid definitely needed it worse than I did.

Buko Max
12-05-08, 07:02
Yes this is the Baclaran area. Lots of girls who work in Burgos live in this area. Going into these bars are fun.
Thanks for the responses FF, M and X,

If that is the case I will have to enlist a few of my Pinoy friends and hit the places hard! :D


It's also an okay place to take a girl for a bite to eat and a drink after you've plucked her from LA Cafe.
Good call giving that kid your leftovers! Better than giving him money.
Never ate at G Point, will have to try it. LA Cafe food is distasteful and pricey.
Another place I would recommend to eat is Amazonia.
Last month I ate at a seafood joint where you pick out the seafood from the display and they cook it for you any style you want! The place is between LA and Robinsons. Will have to jog my memory and come up with the name.

Blackangst
12-05-08, 20:04
Its called G Point. Much more of a respectable place. Just like an ordinary bar where you live but most of the girls are available. I always found many more and higher quality in LA Cafe. You jusgotta wait it out. Its always there at LA.

Sorry was using slang :p A google search will also yield info as well.

GoodEnough
12-06-08, 03:16
G Point is probably my favorite bar in the Ermita/Malate area, but it's pretty hit or miss for the ladies. I've been there on some nights when there were lots of stunners and on others when there was no one appealing to me at all. The food and ambiance are, in my opinion, much better than LA, though the crowd and the size are substantially smaller.

Another often overlooked bar, on which no one ever seems to comment is the LA Annex directly across the street from LA. It's rarely crowded, but if you're looking to escape the noise, the smoke, and the crowds, its a great place to sit, and girls do walk across the street and circulate through the place. Also, the waitresses are definitely available, though you might have to wait until the end of their shifts.

Amazonia has always been, for me, a complete and utter waste of time. I've never taken a girl from there and I've never run across anyone other than one of the bartenders who would rate above a 6.

GE

X Man
12-06-08, 13:42
Agree and disagree with GE about LA vs G Point.

I tend to bounce back and forth between the places depending on my mood.

LA is just too crowded and smokey in the evening. The upstairs can be fun at times. No one will belive me, but I pulled a regular girl out of 2nd floor. She had a job at a travel agency and it took me until the second date (a week later) to get her panties off. Guys brag about freebies here, but she got me a discount on my hotel so fuck off -- I saved money on that lay. Petite chick - the way I like them.

G point often has a smallish live band...sometime some hotties in the group. Sometimes some HAPPY SMILE girls come to dance and mingle. There are a lot of expat regulars in the bar and they are often happy to give some tips to newbies. Very nice atomosphere. GE says the food is better, but he doesn't say if the food is good. I made the mistake of ordering some kind of jumbo burrito/taco, whatever. It was pretty bad.

I also hit Amazon. I have no idea why Amazon puts such fugly women up on pedastles and let them dance. They used to have good music there too, but last few times there was only recorded music -- no band. I've seen some very attractive women working there -- but don't get your hopes up. My opinion isn't as negative as GE, but I have to admit that it's usually empty and I usually leave after one beer. Last time I checked, the same owner was running Paco Park Oasis Hotel.

x

GoodEnough
12-06-08, 18:12
Point taken X. The food is better, by which I meant that at least it's edible, which, in my opinion, the food from LA is not, but I certainly wouldn't rate it as high quality. And it's true, as X says, the Amazonia has to have the least attractive dancers I've ever seen in a bar. Even worse, they're dancing atop the same coolers where drinks are stored, and I'm sure a certain percentage of the dirt from the shoes makes it's way to to tops of the drinks and thence, once the drinks are opened, into the liquid. Very appealing.

GE

Key Master
12-07-08, 06:04
Not sure what kind of food you guys order at LA, but I usually only eat the Asian type foods which to me have actually been surprisingly good. The only negative is that it's definitely not cheap.

Fedex
12-08-08, 06:05
This is continued from the AC board (last trip post was made on 11/28 - sorry for the long pause).

Sunday Nov 9:
After the morning round with ms. 31, I sent her on her way and it was time to catch the Swagman bus back to Manila, where my Freebie was waiting for my return. Left AC with a very heavy heart - will go back there in a heartbit!

Uneventful ride and Ms. F got to my hotel about an hour later. She staged a mock "jealousy" attack - in a good spirit - but I assured her that I was only accompanying my buddy Mike and that I was only window-shopping in AC... Her naive nature and the fact that she was - and still is - deeply in love with me, made her believe it.

Upon entering my room she informed me that she will not leave my side until my departure, which meant 2 overnights. Cool with me.

We spent some time at the Robinson's Mall, then went back to the Hyatt Casino, where I lost $11 over 2 hours of roulette playing. She has never been to a Casino before and got very excited when we won some money half way thru. Of course, I let her choose the numbers and placed the bets for her - it was fun. Then we danced a bit when the live band was playing some favorite oldies and she was in heaven.

Back at the hotel, it was again a very passionate love making. Since she was no more on the ags, I introduced her to DATY for the first time in her life and she LOVED it. Although shy, she just couldn't contain herself and popped a couple of times...

Nov. 10: morning love-making, breakfast with my buddy Mike, then we all travelled to Makati, did some stuff there, visited the Glorietta Mall, then headed back. Dinner and more love-making (am I boring you?) and I could hardly cum. After about 1.5 - 2 hours of sexcersining, I was able to muster a climax... Phew... This was day 9 of 2 - 3 pops per day for this 50 y.o. man and it was getting tough...

Nov. 11:
Morning round and no matter what she did, I couldn't pop. I told her that the climax was not that important for me and being with her was my reward and blah-blah-blah and she fell for it.

Ran some last minute errands, and at 1:00pm headed ro the airport. The Taxi driver was very annoying, couldn't stop talking stupid stuff, etc., so he got shorted on the tip.

At the airport, she was not allowed to enter the departure terminal, so she waited in the restaurant and I joined her 45 minutes after checking in.
Grabbed something to eat and she got very emotional, but was able to hold on. we spent an hour in the restaurant, holding hands and talking until it was time to go. I told her that to make it easy, we will do a short hug and kiss and she agreed. And that was it. 10 days in paradise have just ended...

We are still in touch, daily, via e-mails and chats. She knows that we don't have a future together, but she enjoys our continued cyber relations and so do I... But I miss AC so badly!!!

Fedex out.

Cunning Stunt
12-08-08, 06:42
Why? Because I've had 2 duds in a row from LA Cafe. Thats not happened before. Just returned from a 10 country trip around the mingering capitals of SE Asia (during which I enjoyed the best and worst of Asian mingering and found one relatively undiscovered gem) and thought I would re-experience Pinay P4P a la LA Cafe style.

Firstly has anyone, who has been playing away for a while, noticed how the scales fall from the eyes on ones return to Manila/Philippines. Then one realizes how utterly depressing, seedy, ramshackle and nasty the place is. This applies tenfold to LA Cafe, where, whilst away, I must have contracted an STI called choosiness, because I couldn't see a single doable female apart from a couple of cute waitresses. This was serious. No doubt in a couple of weeks with my Pinay beer goggles reapplied, I will be seeing Janine San Miguel lookalikes everywhere. So I repaired to the bar to start serious work on that exercise.

Several SMP's later, after getting my ass kicked at billiards (again!), I was approached by a cute little spinner that I had taken once before and who had severely disappointed. Now my first rule of mingering is 'one chance, and one chance only'. If they prove a starfish, a clock watching waster, an out and out pro, a bolshy ***** or a nutjob, then put it down to experience and move on but never ever take her on again. But little head thinks rules are made to be broken. I told her that she had been a waste of time on our first encounter. She said that she had had problems then and things would be much different this time. Like a chump I swallowed it. You guessed it - a total waste of time and a thou note. She did everything promised but it was all so mechanical and practiced that I quickly lost interest. Plus she had bought a new cellphone that day so guess who got the most attention (see picture for answer).

Returned a couple of days later and had an even worse experience. WTF has happened to my w**** radar? Definately will have to send it back to workshops for repair. Another cute little spinner. She did a great act at pretending to be a student out moonlighting. I thought I had seen her about LA Cafe before but she denied it. Should have listened to Ole Muther Instinct because when I got her into the room, she turned out to be consummate professional in a hurry to make an appointment that ain't with me. Very seldom do I lose my rag with a WG but in her case I made an exception and booted her out with half pay after a most unsatisfactory encounter.

I really will have to stop being a lazy twat and taking the easy options that include LA Cafe easies. There are much better experiences to be had in Manila for those willing to be a little more adventurous and explorative.

Happy Xmas mingering!! GH

Ekspat
12-09-08, 11:32
.. But I miss AC so badly!!!

10 more days until me in the plane to Clark.......
:D :D

Poopbunny
12-09-08, 20:56
10 more days until me in the plane to Clark.......
:D :D

I will be there in 9 days.
:)
:D

MeLuvULongTime
12-10-08, 01:54
i will be there in 9 days.
:)
:dgentlemen,

i will be in the "pearl" of the pacific in 2 days. whoo weee. lol. the first place i go will be the edsa firehouse to play pelvic pinnocle with a pinay.

meluvuloongtime

X Man
12-10-08, 13:02
Wow, two dudes? Your butt must hurt like hell. Hope you fare better in the future. X


Why? Because I've had 2 duds in a row from LA Cafe. GH

Steve Coleman
12-10-08, 21:41
Hi Guys,

I will be in Manila in Feb. For 3 weeks. Will be first time and looking for advice on best places and good gf hotels. Been LOS many times and have always wanted to sample other Asian Delights.

Free to travel around and would like a nice beach resort with some action if possible. Maybe 3 different places with a week in each to see more of the Philippines. Or do you recomend just 1 place as best. Can't wait to compare the filipinos to the thais.

Thanks for your input.

Steve

FreebieFan
12-11-08, 00:41
Well as everyone else is announcing their imminent arrival in Manila thought I would do same. On my 956th vist there, and yes. Thanks to the power of websites and sms I have my normal busy schedule all planned.

Arive Friday afternoon. And have a Friendster friend lined up. We had met once before but she got cold feet when we drove to Sogo motel. She asures me this time shes waiting and ready.

After that will be a few beers in Burgos.

Some work on Saturday am, then have a hottie from Pampanga meeting me. Pick up at bus station, off to Sogo for 3 hours. Drop back at bus station.

Eat, then meet a cute gal from Bonifacio High street. Shes going to Middle East to get mrried to some Arab. I guess she will get my "pork" before she gets halal meat LOL.

After that more beers in Burgos. I will be the guy in the Hawaiian shirt.

Sunday morning. Have an 18 year old gal to meet. Not sure what will hapen but will give it a try. And that will be the weekend.

Fast Eddie 48
12-11-08, 01:56
Hi Guys,

I will be in Manila in Feb. For 3 weeks. Will be first time and looking for advice on best places and good gf hotels. Been LOS many times and have always wanted to sample other Asian Delights.

Free to travel around and would like a nice beach resort with some action if possible. Maybe 3 different places with a week in each to see more of the Philippines. Or do you recomend just 1 place as best. Can't wait to compare the filipinos to the thais.

Thanks for your input.

SteveSteve,

Pm me I also will be around in manila for business for a week first week of feb ,maybe to white beach or AC for a few days.

Fast eddie 48

Cunning Stunt
12-11-08, 03:42
Wow, two dudes? Your butt must hurt like hell. Hope you fare better in the future. X

Feel free to practice on me. I promise to be gentle and not kick your ass too bad. Aw, shucks…I guess you have missed getting beat up of late by your favorite verbal sparring partner, as we have heard little but squeaks from you recently. Maybe you need a good sex vacation to charge up the batteries and invigorate the imagination. Why not visit the Philippines or have you somewhere more exciting in mind? Go for the more exciting option and I suggest Afghanistan or Iraq as your poor, little mind needs the stimulus.

Captain America
12-11-08, 11:07
GH,
You should see a technician by the name of Geraldine (or sometimes Melody), to be found upstairs most nights. Despite her experience, she is so GFE you will find it hard to say goodbye. 22yo, 4'11, large B's or maybe even small c's and the tightest little body you have ever seen. And she knows how to use it...

Spook
12-11-08, 12:22
Why? Because I've had 2 duds in a row from LA Cafe. Thats not happened before. Just returned from a 10 country trip around the mingering capitals of SE Asia (during which I enjoyed the best and worst of Asian mingering and found one relatively undiscovered gem) and thought I would re-experience Pinay P4P a la LA Cafe style.

Firstly has anyone, who has been playing away for a while, noticed how the scales fall from the eyes on ones return to Manila/Philippines. Then one realizes how utterly depressing, seedy, ramshackle and nasty the place is. This applies tenfold to LA Cafe, where, whilst away, I must have contracted an STI called choosiness, because I couldn't see a single doable female apart from a couple of cute waitresses. This was serious. No doubt in a couple of weeks with my Pinay beer goggles reapplied, I will be seeing Janine San Miguel lookalikes everywhere. So I repaired to the bar to start serious work on that exercise.

Several SMP's later, after getting my ass kicked at billiards (again! ), I was approached by a cute little spinner that I had taken once before and who had severely disappointed. Now my first rule of mingering is 'one chance, and one chance only'. If they prove a starfish, a clock watching waster, an out and out pro, a bolshy ***** or a nutjob, then put it down to experience and move on but never ever take her on again. But little head thinks rules are made to be broken. I told her that she had been a waste of time on our first encounter. She said that she had had problems then and things would be much different this time. Like a chump I swallowed it. You guessed it. A total waste of time and a thou note. She did everything promised but it was all so mechanical and practiced that I quickly lost interest. Plus she had bought a new cellphone that day so guess who got the most attention (see picture for answer).

Returned a couple of days later and had an even worse experience. WTF has happened to my w**** radar? Definately will have to send it back to workshops for repair. Another cute little spinner. She did a great act at pretending to be a student out moonlighting. I thought I had seen her about LA Cafe before but she denied it. Should have listened to Ole Muther Instinct because when I got her into the room, she turned out to be consummate professional in a hurry to make an appointment that ain't with me. Very seldom do I lose my rag with a WG but in her case I made an exception and booted her out with half pay after a most unsatisfactory encounter.

I really will have to stop being a lazy twat and taking the easy options that include LA Cafe easies. There are much better experiences to be had in Manila for those willing to be a little more adventurous and explorative.

Happy Xmas mingering! GHI agree entirely about the girl with the cellphone. I did her about 3 weeks ago; I met her one afternoon in LA Cafe; she was personable, seemed genuinely interested in my trip to the Philippines, very pretty with a cute smile and a sexy little body. We quickly agreed to go back to my hotel to get to know each other better.

Back in the room I told her she was my guest and to feel free to use the contents of the refridgerator, the bathroom etc. I like a girl to feel relaxed and comfortable and hopefully to enjoy the experience as much as I do. I noticed her receive a text but thought little of it at this stage.

Seconds later the girl had lost all her clothes and jumped in the shower, motioning for me to do the same. Fine by me, gives me a chance to view the goods. As anticipated she had a sexy little body and pussy with just a few whisps of hair present. We towelled dry and resumed to the bedroom.

On the bed she began blowing me. It felt good. After about 2 minutes she laid on her back, opened her legs and asked me to "in my pussy". Now whilst this is the ultimate goal, I do like a decent foreplay session; the girl, however, just wanted to get on with it so I did as she requested, making a mental note to adjust the tip according to the service. She laid there moaning a little but not moving or putting any effort into the act. It was when she said "quickly na you finish" that I realised that the fulfilling and satisfying afternoon romp that I had planned was going completely to shit.

It was obvious that the girl just wanted to get it over with and out of there so I abandoned all hope of her enjoying it as well and just pounded into her until I had done.

When I climbed off she jumped up, ran into the bathroom, showered and dressed.

I gave her 500 pesos. She was obviously angry at this insult and demanded 2000. I told her no way and pointed out that she had been in the room less than 30 minutes so 500 was actually a good deal. I thought she was going to create a major scene and prepared to call security. However she suddenly changed her attidude saying "ok ok you take me outside hotel now". Many hotels won't allow a guest to leave without the express permission of the room occupant so I escorted her outside.

I decided to take a stroll while I decided my next move so followed her down the street for a short distance. I saw her disappear into a nearby hotel and realised that the text and subsequent rushed experience was probably a result of another punter waiting for her. Whatever, I cannot recommend this lady unless you want a jump that's only slightly better than having a quick wank. What had looked a good prospect in LA Cafe turned out to be an almost total waste of time and effort.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

X Man
12-11-08, 16:17
Practice on you? I prefer females. Thanks for the offer.


Feel free to practice on me.

Cunning Stunt
12-12-08, 00:40
I prefer females.

But we only have your word for that. The way you see shirt lifting allusions in every innocent comment, I am beginning to wonder. Guys who constantly have to reaffirm their masculinity, often have guilty secrets and insecurities that they hide behind raving homophobia and constant reference back to arse banditry matters. You definitely fit that bill. If you want to emerge from the closet, I assure you that you will get a sympathetic reception here;).

This could explain the tartan trews. Perhaps you have a smart matching jacket and a cute little cap to go with them. I expect you look a dish.

Cunning Stunt
12-12-08, 01:01
I agree entirely about the girl with the cellphone....

Thanks Spook - good report - it should be the duty of every member to warn of serial short changers like her. Thing is that she looks good and is very plausible (she conned me into taking her a second time) so I am sure that she is not short of gullible victims. She has been at the game several years and I recall Asian Rain mentioning once that he did a porno shoot with her. Would be interesting to get his observations (if he is still lurking here).

Do you recall her name. I forget. Something like Marisol.

Cunning Stunt
12-12-08, 01:05
GH,
You should see a technician by the name of Geraldine (or sometimes Melody), to be found upstairs most nights. Despite her experience, she is so GFE you will find it hard to say goodbye. 22yo, 4'11, large B's or maybe even small c's and the tightest little body you have ever seen. And she knows how to use it...

Do you have a picture, CA? Maybe I know her. G

Brown Rail
12-12-08, 06:35
re taxi's: it could be worse if you were at bangkok suvarnabhumi airport.

the official airport taxis are bht3000 to pattaya where you can get other taxi/limos for no more than bht1500. this is worse because it is the "official" ones that are trying to rip you off, and rip you off big time, not just a few dollars.

i will be heading to manila on jan 1 - jan 3 from ac. probably arrive via swagmans. then take a taxi to makati.

i figured from reading the posts, cafe havana, greenbelt3 is my best bet for quality. can anyone recommend gf hotel in the us$80/night (+/-) range that is walking distance to havana? what precentage of girls at havana would be fl? are they easy to spot? how do you spot fl at nearby malls?

i'm just there for a couple of days so i'm not planning to be too ambitious, if i don't get to scope la cafe, edsa, nana, i can always do that on another trip. i like to start small to get a feel for the place, maybe be a little more streetwise.

if anyone is planning to be around manila during that time please pm, maybe we could scope the talent together or just catch up for a beer.hey poopbunny,

at greenbelt i would guess that two thirds of the girls are working. they are not hard to spot. most people are in the tables outside. girls may approach you as you walk around nearby. when you get there you will see women seated at tables, all done up. if there are only girls at the table, they are working. inside there is a bar and band, few tables. the women at the bar are working too. if you see someone with her husband, she is not working. if you see a cutie hanging with her friends, and they are not attractive, she is probably not working either.

basically most are, and it is hard to tell which are not. one strategy is to treat them all like they are not working and treat them like a one nighter, see what happens.

by the way, traffic on the 1st will likely be very light, so don't be afraid to go to ermita. i am not sure what the crowd will look like at la cafe on new year's day, or even if they are open (but they are always open aren't they? ) but go look. also, if you don't care about the higher cost, the consistently hottest women are probably in the "show bars" on roxas blvd (athena, miss east asia, etc) or in qc at pegasus. for sure you will find your 9-10, but it will cost you.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Hairy Wonder
12-12-08, 09:26
Guys!

I have been a participant, if not more of a lurker, in the boards here for quite a while. However, I think that both of you have been on here much longer than I have. As senior members with over 500 (G) and 1600 (X) posts, I would think that you 2 would understand that these boards are for passing on information about the women that all of us mongerers are searching for. Not for your personal insults to one another. If you guys just can't resist your constant jabs at what the other guy is posting, I would suggest you make them PMs instead of posts to the board. Both of you have a lot of good information that you share in your posts about the girls and our favorite hobby, and I thank you for every post that has helped in my persuits. Everybody has their own personal likes and dislikes, as well as opinions. If you don't agree with what someone has stated on the board, it is OK to post your own view point on the subject. Just please keep the personal attacks out of it.

Respectfully,
HW

Spook
12-12-08, 10:29
Do you recall her name. I forget. Something like Marisol.I really cannot remember her name. I had put the whole charade to the back of my mind until I saw your photo of her on here. Perhaps we ought to have a separate section for details of scammers, duds and runners then we can familiarise ourselves with them before going on a hunt.

X Man
12-12-08, 13:16
Thanks for the heads up. BTW, do you have more than one account here? Your style of writing is OH, OH, so similar to ....

...oh, who knows and who cares.

X



Guys!

I have been a participant, if not more of a lurker, in the boards here for quite a while. However, I think that both of you have been on here much longer than I have. As senior members with over 500 (G) and 1600 (X) posts, I would think that you 2 would understand that these boards are for passing on information about the women that all of us mongerers are searching for. Not for your personal insults to one another. If you guys just can't resist your constant jabs at what the other guy is posting, I would suggest you make them PMs instead of posts to the board. Both of you have a lot of good information that you share in your posts about the girls and our favorite hobby, and I thank you for every post that has helped in my persuits. Everybody has their own personal likes and dislikes, as well as opinions. If you don't agree with what someone has stated on the board, it is OK to post your own view point on the subject. Just please keep the personal attacks out of it.

Respectfully,
HW

Cunning Stunt
12-12-08, 16:17
Thanks for the heads up. BTW, do you have more than one account here? Your style of writing is OH, OH, so similar to ....

...oh, who knows and who cares.

X

... don't mean the bastards are not out to get you. Come now really .. you are not actually suggesting that I am HW as well. Not too long ago you was intimating that I was Asian Rain and that other guy (whose handle I forget) who had been on your case. Did you have a bang on the head as a child. I suggest you keep taking the tablets.

You are right ..who gives a flying fuck. HW is right ... everyone is right. Now all you have to do is stop making stupid inane quips at my expense and I will stop responding in kind. Then peace and harmony will break out this Yuletide and all will be well in the world. Amen :D.

Cunning Stunt
12-12-08, 16:52
and I recall Asian Rain mentioning once that he did a porno shoot with her...

Isn't it spiffing being able to quote oneself ...rah, rah, rah.

More about Parasol. Silly me - AR replied to my photo gallery post after my first encounter with the spinnerette from hell. For those interested his pictures are at:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=457283&postcount=5
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=457281&postcount=4
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=457279&postcount=3

P.S Not convinced this is the same girl but they remain fun viewing.

AR ..whoops, sorry GH.

Spook
12-12-08, 17:27
Isn't it spiffing being able to quote oneself ...rah, rah, rah.

More about Parasol. Silly me - AR replied to my photo gallery post after my first encounter with the spinnerette from hell. For those interested his pictures are at:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=457283&postcount=5
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=457281&postcount=4
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=457279&postcount=3

AR ..whoops, sorry GH.I wonder how AR managed to get her to stay around long enough for that!

Takes it up the arse as well!

Damn!

X Man
12-13-08, 01:22
Is this guy for real?

rattle, rattle....

X


... don't mean the bastards are not out to get you. Come now really .. you are not actually suggesting that I am HW as well. Not too long ago you was intimating that I was Asian Rain and that other guy (whose handle I forget) who had been on your case. Did you have a bang on the head as a child. I suggest you keep taking the tablets.

You are right ..who gives a flying fuck. HW is right ... everyone is right. Now all you have to do is stop making stupid inane quips at my expense and I will stop responding in kind. Then peace and harmony will break out this Yuletide and all will be well in the world. Amen :D.

Hairy Wonder
12-13-08, 02:08
Thanks for the heads up. BTW, do you have more than one account here? Your style of writing is OH, OH, so similar to ....

...oh, who knows and who cares.

X

No X, I don't have any other names on ISG. I did change my handle about a year or so ago, to protect the innocent (namely myself) from the wrath of an ex-gf. But the initials remained the same. You might still be able to find some of my old posts, mostly in South Korea forums, under the handle of Hard Woody. (I'm not so worried about the wrath anymore.) :D

I didn't realize that my writing style was so similar to that of any other member here. I just type it as it stumbles out of the cracks in my head.

To prove to you that I am a different member than any other here, I will give you notice the next time I go to the PI. Hopefully we can meet over a beer or 2 and trade stories. I'll buy the first round!

I don't want to stir up any trouble, or get on anybody's bad side on these forums. I'm just here to enjoy (and envy) the posts of everyone's experiences with the ladies. The personal attacks that you and G keep throwing at each other just seem to clutter up the board. I have seen Jackson delete posts of that type from various forums on ISG. I'm really surprised that he hasn't stepped in and done so on this long running hate thread that you and G are in.

Again, I thank both of you for your entertaining, and informational posts on here. I can't recall the specifics, but I am sure that I have made some use of things that the two of you, as well as everyone else, have put on here. I hope to continue making good use of the entire forum long into the future.

"Can't we all just get along?"

Happy Mongering (and posting)! ;)
HW

Cunning Stunt
12-13-08, 04:35
I wonder how AR managed to get her to stay around long enough for that!

Takes it up the arse as well!

Damn!

Yes, but I am not sure it is the same girl. Body is similar but the face looks different. Also is it conceivable that she has gone from a willing and compliant partner to the opposite in a couple of years. I guess the answer to that is yes, if she has been misused or the inevitable hardening process has taken its toll.

It is a shame that more members are not willing to report poor performance, as you did, as well as the good. I suspect pride and ego comes into the equation and fear of being mocked by certain members (some dickhead mockers out there who seldom produce anything of value themselves). Similarly with the outstanding performers. Suggest giving more info and don't keep the stars to yourself unless you intend to marry the girl!. Consider how the punting scene has improved exponentially in UK since the advent of puntern*t.com. Now girls (particularly in the parlours) know that if they don't give good service, it is likely to be negatively reported upon online. Standards and service has risen to the degree that the UK punting scene is possibly the best in Europe. Similar is not on here due to fluidic and transient nature of the p4p population but in places which have a more stable core of regulars (LA Cafe), honest and unbiased reporting can save other members much time, hassle and money.



"Can't we all just get along?"

Happy Mongering (and posting)! ;)


Can appreciate the sentiment HW but its a pipedream to expect a bunch of 'ornery old rogues like us to get along like a Womens Institute meeting and wouldn't it be boring if we did. Half the fun of the forum is the disagreements, insults (some very funny) and mud slinging. Just try visiting the Thai forum for all 3 on a regular basis. It can be very entertaining. X would get blown out of the water in short time if he dare show his ugly face there. All OK as long as it does not get too personal or nasty and then its out of order. Guilty as charged, m'lud.


Is this guy for real?



Yep, I think so. How about you?

X Man
12-13-08, 14:30
Thanks for taking the time to explain things. I'll be in Cebu city next week....and I like beer!

I was a surpirsed when you used "constant ....(disagreements?)" even though I had posted a grand total of six sentences in December to the whiney one. I'm kind of a stickler for accuracy, so that word "constant" struck me as odd. There was another member who used this term a lot -- and like the whiney one, spent more time disparaging me, rather than trying to make any kind of coherent post.

I'm sorry for accusing you of being a clone.

HW, You haven't even come close to getting on my bad side. You have to make an effort, you have to be ridiculously moronic, you have to post Wrong information, you have to post insults, you have to be opinionated without having any informative posts -- those are the things that [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. Oh, and I've given up being pissed off at the people who post in the PHoto section without photos.

As for the whiney one, he seems to have forgotten how he sent numerous provocations, and then when I finally got fed up, responded, he answered with "rattle rattle". Rattle the cage? X Man is so easy to get upset... Ooops, take a look at some of the whiney one's recent posts. Rattle, rattle.

My next trip is to Visayans, and possibly Mindanao, so I apologize for rattling around here in the Manila thread.

X



No X, I don't have any other names on ISG. I did change my handle about a year or so ago, to protect the innocent (namely myself) from the wrath of an ex-gf. But the initials remained the same. You might still be able to find some of my old posts, mostly in South Korea forums, under the handle of Hard Woody. (I'm not so worried about the wrath anymore.) :D

I didn't realize that my writing style was so similar to that of any other member here. I just type it as it stumbles out of the cracks in my head.

To prove to you that I am a different member than any other here, I will give you notice the next time I go to the PI. Hopefully we can meet over a beer or 2 and trade stories. I'll buy the first round!

I don't want to stir up any trouble, or get on anybody's bad side on these forums. I'm just here to enjoy (and envy) the posts of everyone's experiences with the ladies. The personal attacks that you and G keep throwing at each other just seem to clutter up the board. I have seen Jackson delete posts of that type from various forums on ISG. I'm really surprised that he hasn't stepped in and done so on this long running hate thread that you and G are in.

Again, I thank both of you for your entertaining, and informational posts on here. I can't recall the specifics, but I am sure that I have made some use of things that the two of you, as well as everyone else, have put on here. I hope to continue making good use of the entire forum long into the future.

"Can't we all just get along?"

Happy Mongering (and posting)! ;)
HW

Asian Rain
12-13-08, 14:48
i wonder how ar managed to get her to stay around long enough for that! takes it up the arse as well! she didn't take it up the ass for long. it was the first time her [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) chute had been stuffed with cock.
yes, but i am not sure it is the same girl. i don't have that wide of an attention span to be sure if it is "miss a. " in the first pic set that mrg had posted

(http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102605),

there was no face in the pics but the girl had the same distinctive short cut hairstyle as miss a, which she wears that way to cover up a defect on her right earlobe. in the followup post by razzor

(http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=102674),

i am quite sure the girl is miss a. in the latest post by mrg

(http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=106497),

the girl with the celphone is not miss a as she does not have the same facial mark.

anyway, my pic set is from june '05, so she is over 3 years on from when i first put her on video. she still looked great when i ran into hear early this year when i was coming out of g point. she remembered me and she was very keen to party again and suggesed to do another video shoot with me. i passed because i had something better. and fresher. lined up. she wasn't the most memorable fuck three years ago, so i wouldn't be surprised to hear that she isn't delivering stellar service these days.

for those that enjoy spinners getting spun, attached are some previously unpublished pics.

enjoy,

asianrain

Hairy Wonder
12-13-08, 16:51
Thanks for taking the time to explain things. I'll be in Cebu city next week....and I like beer! I wish I could say with confidence, that I would be anywhere close enough to drop by and buy a round. However, I have no travel plans as of this moment. But you never know, things can change in a heartbeat (usually not in my favor though.)


you have to be opinionatedIt's very obvious that you have never met me. ;)


Can appreciate the sentiment HW but its a pipedream to expect a bunch of 'ornery old rogues like us to get along like a Womens Institute meeting and wouldn't it be boring if we did. Half the fun of the forum is the disagreements, insults (some very funny) and mud slinging. Just try visiting the Thai forum for all 3 on a regular basis. It can be very entertaining.
Because Thailand has been suggested to me often, to include while I was in PI mongering around, I do keep and eye on those forums as well. I do enjoy the fun they have throwing punches at each other. But it is apparent to even the casual lurker, that it is all good fun. You can see how each sarcastic comment is responded to with even more sarcasm. I have been tempted to jump in on a few conversations in the Thai boards. But I have never been there, and I feel that I would not be posting anything useful. One day, I will visit LOS and try to get a broad sample of what is available there. However, I am sure that Giotto with call me a "cheap Bestard" because I don't want to pay what he charges for a room at Livingstone's Lodge. :p

HW

Cunning Stunt
12-13-08, 17:00
This message is hidden because X Man is on your ignore list

The solution was there all along - the ignore list. All I had to do was suss it out and it was easy peasy. Now I don't have to view the unrelenting, nitpicking, paranoic, meaningless ramblings of this self obsessed, annoying little wanker again (except I imagine when quoted but I can live with that).

X - you are ex.

R.I.P :D

AncntFornicatr
12-14-08, 00:06
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]She didn't take it up the ass for long. It was the first
For those that enjoy spinners getting spun, attached are some previously unpublished pics.

Enjoy,

Glad to see you are back. Always enjoy your photos.

AF

Amavida
12-14-08, 02:27
This message is hidden because X Man is on your ignore list

The solution was there all along - the ignore list. All I had to do was suss it out and it was easy peasy. Now I don't have to view the unrelenting, nitpicking, paranoic, meaningless ramblings of this self obsessed, annoying little wanker again (except I imagine when quoted but I can live with that).

X - you are ex.

R.I.P :DDont feel too special GH :D
This guy has issues. He behaves like this to many people in these forums.
Ever noticed the way he makes reference to the number of sex acts he has performed in his life? Like anyone cares. And his compulsive posting.. I mean anyone with over 1,600 posts does not really need to keep asking for more information does he?

Take care & welcome to the peaceful life with ignore filters :D
AV

BigDaddy James
12-14-08, 05:35
Ran into dat lil freak sitting in Amazonia with some old ass geezer.

She was fun and loved to act up on video and film.

Cunning Stunt
12-14-08, 05:53
Dont feel too special GH :D
This guy has issues. He behaves like this to many people in these forums.
Ever noticed the way he makes reference to the number of sex acts he has performed in his life? Like anyone cares. And his compulsive posting.. I mean anyone with over 1,600 posts does not really need to keep asking for more information does he?

Take care & welcome to the peaceful life with ignore filters :D
AV

Yes, A, I well recall the problems you had with this annoying knobber. Makes nasty, sniping attacks usually implying that you are bent or are after his arse (?classic schoolground humor, not normally resorted to by a grown man) and then cries foul when you reply in kind. Guess he views himself as some kind of Agent Provocateur whose pleasure it is to wind people up. But he lacks the wit or intelligence to do it properly and only tends to rub guys up the wrong way. Because he has so many posts (mostly pointless one line putdowns or winges) he feels he is the cock crowing atop the shitpile instead of the sad little loser he really is. Rarely, if ever posts anything novel or of real interest to members. The man doesn't even live in the Philippine for Christ sake, so how can he be an expert on the place. Lives in Japan, apparently, but contributes much less to their forum than ours. I recall that he posted a whine once on the China board photo gallery and was quickly and firmly put in his place. What was that all about? (don't really want to know!).

He was foolish enough to post a picture that included his miniscule tool once and probably needs to brag about his numbers of conquests in order to boost a low self esteem and his no doubt severe penis envy of those much better endowed than himself.

Wasted far too much invective on this pipsqueak (I've always wanted to use that word and it applies perfectly :D)

Yes, the ignore feature is a godsend and I should have used it earlier. Just hope you have yours on.

Happy mingering ;) GH

Cunning Stunt
12-14-08, 06:10
[QUOTE=Asian Rain]

Glad to see you are back. Always enjoy your photos.



Only as an lurker and occasional poster I fear AF. The guy is too busy with his excellent blog. Cannot give a link here but I'm sure that if you play around with the word s*xpat, then you will come up trumps.

AR - your excellent work is much missed here. If you don't use them in your blog, some of your old stuff (pre-Jackson accidental deletion of the Photo Gallery), would undoubtedly go down a treat (and draw attention to your other stuff). GH

Marconista
12-14-08, 18:46
WOW.. Did you bring a sybian to RP? he he he... magnificent :D
Seen a few of the sybianshows on youporn and loved them lolz.


Ran into dat lil freak sitting in Amazonia with some old ass geezer.

She was fun and loved to act up on video and film.

Vittu
12-14-08, 20:46
What on earth is the machine in the bed in picture amaz9ul.jpg? A rat catcher?

FreebieFan
12-15-08, 00:48
Ok. Another boring weekend in Manila. Arrived at 4pm Friday. Had been chatting to a lady in Friendster for over a year on and off. We had met once for Starbucks and a little hot handed car ride but she told me she was internet dating some guy in US and wanted to be loyal. I in turn told her hes missing out in life. Well. We agreed to meet again. Wasnt sure if it was going to be in her panties type of night. But when she sent me sms asking if if I was bringing protection then I knew all was well in the world.

We met, no need for Starbucks this time. We went to car and straight to Sogo in Pasay. You can always tell when a girl isn't so experienced. She says. " I've always wondered what the inside of a motel looks like". Well she found out.

Shes over 30. Very slim body, with great curves, and amazingly no baby. Excellent sex. Had a finger up her arse and would have gone for rear entry but will hopefully have a repeat in 09 with her.

She needed to get home early as its not safe where she lives and that was great for me. So. In Manila 2 hours and already had a score on the baord.

Out to Burgos, home late.

Next day a friend came down from Pampanga. Amazing, she sits on a bus for 3 hours. Meets me. We have great sex. I drop her at the bus station and she says THAnkyou to me! This gal likes to dress up. Lingerie school uniform etc. No prob with me taking videos and pictures either. Sweet gal. Dropped her at bus station then met a YM friend in Bonifacio high street for a fun dinner.

I was hoping she WASNT going to want to go to a motel as I was drained. Luckily (LOL) not. One chaste kiss but will get her next time.

Off to Burgos till 3am.

Sunday am. Was really in a haze. But the will to perfom continued. On a previous trip had met a lady in Tagged. Wed had Starbucks but not time to do much. I knew she had 4 kids. Only 31. Knew she was slim but thought body may have gone. So wasnt too sure if wanted to root. Met. And walked to car. No question about where we would go. Sogo in Pasay of course.

She was fun in bed. But the only way she could get off was by laying horizontly on top of me facing up. That was what wrked for her. And was fun for me watching the ceiling mirror.

And then to airport. Very tired. 3 gals in 2 days. Two new ones. Was a great weekend.

BigDaddy James
12-15-08, 01:05
There is no better combination than a LBFM on a Sybian.

They love the Sybian more than Rice

Cunning Stunt
12-15-08, 03:30
Ran into dat lil freak sitting in Amazonia with some old ass geezer.

She was fun and loved to act up on video and film.


I salute you, sir. One for the excellent bunch of photo's of that little minx, Miss A. And, more, importantly, for your lugging a 20 pound Sybian out to the Philippines. What a star.

BigDaddy James
12-15-08, 03:59
The Sybian wins every time and is worth every $. Nothing like have LBFM's spread the word like coach roaches to their friends 2 ride the greatest invention since the JEEPNY. So the guy who pulled Ms A and said she was no good, its because the Sybian pulled all the life out of her. She will NEVER be the same again So before you pull the LBFM from Robinson Mall or LA cafe, ask first if she has already ridden "Big Daddy's Toy"?

Puerto La Cruz
12-15-08, 04:01
Funniest thing I've seen in the pic gallery in a long time. Hahahahaha. Was that a check in???

Finrod
12-15-08, 07:33
Dang, can hardly imagine the dedication of the monger who brings a Sybian to the Phils... sheesh, I am impressed! Hope he can get it back home again.

Carmex
12-15-08, 07:44
Now there are dedicated mongers, and there are DEDICATED mongers! Truly unbelievable.

Daddy, whew, you are the man!

Cunning Stunt
12-15-08, 07:48
The Sybian wins every time and is worth every $. Nothing like have LBFM's spread the word like coach roaches to their friends 2 ride the greatest invention since the JEEPNY. So the guy who pulled Ms A and said she was no good, its because the Sybian pulled all the life out of her. She will NEVER be the same again So before you pull the LBFM from Robinson Mall or LA cafe, ask first if she has already ridden "Big Daddy's Toy"?

I'm mega impressed. Where you been man - we need innovative guys like you on the forum. I'll bet a lot of those girls needed lots of reassurance and gentle persuasion before they mounted up. You can see the uncertainty and fear in their eyes ;). And when they found out how good it was didn't they lose interest in you?

How much does one of them dudes cost and how would you have explained it away if you had been stopped by Philippine Customs (it might have been easier if it had been a female examiner :D)?

I also hear tell that there is a male version. How does that work and measure up I wonder?

Sorry, more questions than X, but I'm fascinated. GH

Bulik
12-15-08, 12:15
Bigdaddy James

You are truely the man. Great photos! I had a Sybian in the PI back several years ago. It was giving to me by a friend from the office when he and his wife transfered to another office. He told me his wife loved it and that I should try to get a Filipina to give it a try. And I did find a taker after a few "what the hell is that". After the first lady tried it she went crazy with it and the next time she came over to my house she brought a friend that wanted to try it, she also loved it. I had more girlfriends than I knew what to do within a couple weeks. I had to retire it (The Sybian) after I hooked up with a steady girl. The only regret I have is I never did any photos in the 2 years I had it.

Keep mongering!

Vittu
12-15-08, 16:02
I am impressed. A Sybian is supposed to weigh 22 lbs.

Elmerfud
12-16-08, 05:27
How much does one of them dudes cost and how would you have explained it away if you had been stopped by Philippine Customs (it might have been easier if it had been a female examiner :D)?

I also hear tell that there is a male version. How does that work and measure up I wonder?

Sorry, more questions than X, but I'm fascinated. GHJust google: sybian info, and all your answer is there you can also order one from that site and there is a one for male call venus

Mahal
12-16-08, 07:37
This one is dedicated to one of the best SP I have ever met, one I have already reported on, but who took me dangerously close to the limit where I didn't want her to leave in the morning and where I miss her when she is not there. Total GFE and when I had to leave, she just said how much she appreciated the time we spent together. She gave everything and never once asked for anything, she is beautiful, she is sweet, enjoys life, does not take drugs and she will do whatever it takes to bring you to paradise. Damn, I should know better, I do, but in a word she is great. Treat Leigh at Firehouse nice, and expect her to return the favor 100 times...

Antoine
12-16-08, 14:51
First time there.

Can you someone make a list of places where we can find Street Action in Manila?

Thanks a lot.

FreebieFan
12-17-08, 01:19
First time there.

Can you someone make a list of places where we can find Street Action in Manila?

Thanks a lot.Um. Try EVERY street. Its the Philippines man. One smile at a cutie and your off to the races. I'm guessing your not very familiar with Manila's delights and joys.

Buko Max
12-17-08, 07:02
Can you someone make a list of places where we can find Street Action in Manila?
You are too nice FF. :rolleyes:
How about reading through this thread and then asking specific questions?

FreebieFan
12-18-08, 10:35
Exchanging messages with a 23 year old in Friendster. Weve had a few exchanges and I said on my next visit to Manila I could meet her in a mall.

Also told her in response to her question "where do you stay " that I stay in my own condo in Manila.

She replied. "would be delighted to meet you in the mall. We can have a Starbux and maybe you can also show me your condo".

Do you think she will be interested in the nice balcony. The rus on the floor. Etc. I love direct unambiguous women. Takes all the guesswork out of the hunt.

Zuzon X
12-21-08, 05:18
Was in Manila for the last couple of days and took on 3 different days a girl and each of the turned out to have the claps.

Since you see over a period of 2 weeks the same faces most of the time it seems they pass it on to each other when the same guy sees more than 1 girl.

Just as a matter of advice but anyone who took one of the girls from there lately should consult his doctor.

Good hunting

Zuzon X

Warmjan
12-21-08, 05:26
Coming to the Philippines for the first time and will have only one night in Manila before heading to the islands. I'm staying on Burgos Street and am wondering what's the best place for some action with very limited time -- a number of people have written favorably about LA Cafe but others seem down on it lately. Have also seen mentions of Magombos, Hollywood, Palacio Den Pedro -- how do those places compare? I've got very little time so can't spend all night wandering from bar to bar in search of pussy; need to find one place that will offer a good selection.

Also, any details on location for the bars mentioned would be very helpful.

Thanks!
WJ

Michi
12-21-08, 05:45
Coming to the Philippines for the first time and will have only one night in Manila before heading to the islands. I'm staying on Burgos Street and am wondering what's the best place for some action with very limited time -- a number of people have written favorably about LA Cafe but others seem down on it lately. Have also seen mentions of Magombos, Hollywood, Palacio Den Pedro -- how do those places compare? I've got very little time so can't spend all night wandering from bar to bar in search of pussy; need to find one place that will offer a good selection.

Also, any details on location for the bars mentioned would be very helpful.

Thanks!

WJDepends,

If you want a sure experience and you don't mind to spend a little, just go to Bandidos or Flamingo around the corner. They will have nice touchy girls. LA nowadays has the risk that you do not find anything you want to take home + taxi ride that can cost you some considerable time.

Other option EDSA, like Makati, more cheaper girls, but less attention in the bars.

Rgds and have fun,

Mike

Amavida
12-21-08, 06:22
Coming to the Philippines for the first time and will have only one night in Manila before heading to the islands. I'm staying on Burgos Street ...

WJFine, so you're staying smack in the middle of the densest most expensive population of P4P in Manila.

If Im staying on Burgos for one night I personally would not waste time & money running all over town. Rather I would get a rest, a good meal & some vitamins (;)) and stroll down burgos into the clubs.

You will easily find sexy attractive women willing to come back to your room & ROCK YOUR WORLD. You're going to pay top dollar for it but what the hell? Better to get a relaxing happy lay than drive yourself nuts running all over town.

3 seconds research on this board will tell you which area of Manila is prominent for which style of activity. You want expensive freelancers? Stay in Malate. You want expensive pro's stay on Burgos. You want try your luck in EDSA scene, get a hotel near there.

I find nothing kills my ardour than a bad attitude by the provider or l-o-n-g expensive taxi rides back & forth to my hotel. When I get a honey from a club i like to keep the air of sexual attraction going & get them to my room reasonably quickly. Usually the longer you take to get them to your room the longer have to they to start pissing you off making phone calls & finding things to complain about...
AV

Vittu
12-21-08, 06:22
FreebieFan -- She'll love the thrill of your balcony it you do her right there.