Manila

[Puerto La Cruz]

Dr. Glen Naval in Mall of Asia. I will PM you the address and phone. With the price I pay for an American dentist, I can fly to Manila so I just get all of my dental work done there.

[Fast Eddie 48]

I have broken a crown, but i'm scheduled to fly to manila on April 6. I'm thinking that i can partially fund my trip with the money i save by using a Manila dentist.to Gulity feet,

I have dental work done in China ,Manila and Bangkok ,I think Bangkok dentist service is much better ,I have a crown done in Shenzhen china 2 yr ago for 240 usd but I have it redone in BBK last yr because is not fit correctly .

I have cleaning and exam done in Manila before about 20 usd they do a ok job not as good as in the US and Bangkok .

Fast eddie 48

[Cunning Stunt]

one of my latest giks is a 20 year old, 4th year high school student, who i met in a freelance p4p situation at the santo nino festival some weeks ago. such encounters are usually a one-off for me, but she was such a sweet, bright and compliant girl that i took her cp no and we have met several times since. she has a fun, bubbly personality if a little rep001ty, and is good to hang out with. although she has a slim and girlish body, facially she looks her age and when she has her slap on, looks older than her years.

i have since found out some of her tough life story. she was born in an atypically large and impoverished family in a province, not too far from manila. her farmer father died 5 years ago when she was a third year student at a public high school. up to that point she was the family’s big hope for the future as she was an exceptionally bright student with every chance of obtaining a scholarship to a good manila college. but the death of her father scuppered these plans and she was forced to leave school and move to manila where she found work in a soap making factory. here she worked for 4 years, sending most of her wages back home to support her mother and remaining family. she lost her virginity at age 17 to a 30 year old married filipino who promised to leave his wife and live with her but, of course, never did. she had a couple of pregnancy scares but luckily nothing came of them. the guy eventually went back to his wife, leaving her distraught and bitter. at this time an older, more experienced friend persuaded her to visit la café where she lost her p4p cherry to a japanese punter. the experience was scary for her (the guy was rough with her) so she didn’t return for some months but shortage of cash eventually told and she returned. she tells me she visited la café on average once or twice a month and was on her way there when i met her (:)). last year she met a nice elderly japanese guy who is now sending her a small monthly allowance so that she was able to resume her interrupted education and pay her way through high school. there is also a german guy somewhere in the background who also sends her money on a less regular basis.

such is her potted life history for those who, like me, try to look a little beyond the lbfm stereotype. but this is isg and i am a player so i guess i better cut to the chase.

r is a can-do, experimental sort of girl. on our last meeting she asked me what anal sex was like and whether it was painful. i told her that since i had never had a dick up my arse, i wouldn’t know:). we had a good laugh about that. but 5 minutes earlier i had had a finger or two embedded deep up her chocolate chute as we screwed, which she had appeared to have thoroughly enjoyed. so i guess that her ass cherry is there for the taking if i want it. anal sex is no big deal for me, so maybe i will and maybe i won’t. but i guess that, like captain kirk, the attraction of ‘boldly going where no man has gone before’ might prove irresistible.

what i do like is uniform play (my only kink otherwise i’m a sausage and mash kinda guy) and i’d asked her to bring her own authentic uniform. previously she had been too shy (she thinks that she looks a bit ugly in it) or absent minded to remember, but on our most recent meeting she finally brought it. and lovely she looked in it, if dangerously jailbaitish. but she is a naughty girl and quickly got as much into it as i was. she insisted that she should get on her knees and blow me (nearly away!) and then we proceeded to fuck our brains out, her still wearing the uni. she is a wild kid at heart but this must have exceptionally pressed her buttons for she left me trailing in her wake. she later said that she had had three orgasms, which was a first for her. in her mind, she admitted, she was thinking that she would have to wear that very same uniform the next day (no time to wash it) and was sure that she and others would be able to smell our sex on it and it was turning her on. who says that these girls have no secret sexual fantasy life? don’t think that i will have any bother getting her to bring it in future.

she is already talking about wanting to enroll in nursing college when she graduates in a couple of weeks time, so i am already fantasizing about one of those lovely one piece white student nursey uniforms, complete with white silk suzzies/nylons and a cute little nursey hat (ok, so i’ll have to add these latter items myself).

ahh, life is good in the philippines:d.

here’s a post coital shot. sorry that i cannot show the stunned, dreamy look that she had on her face, but i can assure you that it was a picture.

[Member #4214]

One of my latest Giks is a 20 year old, 4th year high school student, who I met ...

I'm really not prone to envy, but you wouldn't be able to tell at the moment ... WOW. In your shoes, I'd definitely hold onto that one for awhile. Certainly I'd train her up a bit more, but that is half the fun. Definitely a keeper.

[Bob Bowie]

I have broken a crown, but i'm scheduled to fly to manila on April 6. I'm thinking that i can partially fund my trip with the money i save by using a Manila dentist.

Any opinions? Has anyone had similar services provided by a good dentist there, and if so, what is a reasonable cost? Do you recommend him/her?

Thanks in advance.
I see the dentist every year in Manilal. I get a cap or 2 and it pays for the plane tickets. I had a dental implant last time that was about $2000 less than my US dentist.
Sent me an PM, if you want their website.

[FreebieFan]

one of my latest giks is a 20 year old, 4th year high school student, who i met in a freelance p4p situation at the santo nino festival some weeks ago. such encounters are usually a one-off for me, but she was such a sweet, bright and compliant girl that i took her cp no and we have met several times since. she has a fun, bubbly personality if a little rep001ty, and is good to hang out with. although she has a slim and girlish body, facially she looks her age and when she has her slap on, looks older than her years.

i have since found out some of her tough life story. she was born in an atypically large and impoverished family in a province, not too far from manila. her farmer father died 5 years ago when she was a third year student at a public high school. up to that point she was the family’s big hope for the future as she was an exceptionally bright student with every chance of obtaining a scholarship to a good manila college. but the death of her father scuppered these plans and she was forced to leave school and move to manila where she found work in a soap making factory. here she worked for 4 years, sending most of her wages back home to support her mother and remaining family. she lost her virginity at age 17 to a 30 year old married filipino who promised to leave his wife and live with her but, of course, never did. she had a couple of pregnancy scares but luckily nothing came of them. the guy eventually went back to his wife, leaving her distraught and bitter. at this time an older, more experienced friend persuaded her to visit la café where she lost her p4p cherry to a japanese punter. the experience was scary for her (the guy was rough with her) so she didn’t return for some months but shortage of cash eventually told and she returned. she tells me she visited la café on average once or twice a month and was on her way there when i met her (). last year she met a nice elderly japanese guy who is now sending her a small monthly allowance so that she was able to resume her interrupted education and pay her way through high school. there is also a german guy somewhere in the background who also sends her money on a less regular basis.

such is her potted life history for those who, like me, try to look a little beyond the lbfm stereotype. but this is isg and i am a player so i guess i better cut to the chase.

r is a can-do, experimental sort of girl. on our last meeting she asked me what anal sex was like and whether it was painful. i told her that since i had never had a dick up my arse, i wouldn’t know. we had a good laugh about that. but 5 minutes earlier i had had a finger or two embedded deep up her chocolate chute as we screwed, which she had appeared to have thoroughly enjoyed. so i guess that her ass cherry is there for the taking if i want it. anal sex is no big deal for me, so maybe i will and maybe i won’t. but i guess that, like captain kirk, the attraction of ‘boldly going where no man has gone before’ might prove irresistible.

what i do like is uniform play (my only kink otherwise i’m a sausage and mash kinda guy) and i’d asked her to bring her own authentic uniform. previously she had been too shy (she thinks that she looks a bit ugly in it) or absent minded to remember, but on our most recent meeting she finally brought it. and lovely she looked in it, if dangerously jailbaitish. but she is a naughty girl and quickly got as much into it as i was. she insisted that she should get on her knees and blow me (nearly away! ) and then we proceeded to fuck our brains out, her still wearing the uni. she is a wild kid at heart but this must have exceptionally pressed her buttons for she left me trailing in her wake. she later said that she had had three orgasms, which was a first for her. in her mind, she admitted, she was thinking that she would have to wear that very same uniform the next day (no time to wash it) and was sure that she and others would be able to smell our sex on it and it was turning her on. who says that these girls have no secret sexual fantasy life? don’t think that i will have any bother getting her to bring it in future.

she is already talking about wanting to enroll in nursing college when she graduates in a couple of weeks time, so i am already fantasizing about one of those lovely one piece white student nursey uniforms, complete with white silk suzzies/nylons and a cute little nursey hat (ok, so i’ll have to add these latter items myself).

ahh, life is good in the philippines: d.

here’s a post coital shot. sorry that i cannot show the stunned, dreamy look that she had on her face, but i can assure you that it was a picture.gorgeous pic. as you well know i have a hottie too who loves to don the uniforms. shes done the short skirted uniform, . the long skirted uniform. the nurses uniform. and made up her own secretary outfit. she tells me shes having a police uniform made as a birthday gift for me. yeah. long live the uniform fetishists. oh and of course. the suspenders and garter belt.

[Warbucks]

to Gulity feet,

I have dental work done in China ,Manila and Bangkok ,I think Bangkok dentist service is much better ,I have a crown done in Shenzhen china 2 yr ago for 240 usd but I have it redone in BBK last yr because is not fit correctly .

I have cleaning and exam done in Manila before about 20 usd they do a ok job not as good as in the US and Bangkok .

Fast eddie 48

I have had extensive dental work done in both countries and in my opinion Thailand wins hands down in terms of quality and price. Keep in mind I only go to the best places in both countries. Dental Joy in Bangkok and Asian Hospital and St. Luke’s in Manila.

[Professional]

Just for the old fashioned tests like Elisa or western blot.
These go for the antibodies.

Go for a PCR test and the window is a few days only.

Cheers!I would like to know too. Is there anyplace I can get this done in AC or Manila?

Thanks

[Cunning Stunt]

Gorgeous pic. As you well know I have a hottie too who loves to don the uniforms. Shes done the short skirted uniform, . The long skirted uniform. The nurses uniform. And made up her own secretary outfit. She tells me shes having a police uniform made as a birthday gift for me. Yeah. Long live the uniform fetishists. Oh and of course. The suspenders and garter belt.

Yes FF, and it all the more fun when it is their actual uniform. Boffed a nurse here not so long ago. Nothing like a game of adult doctors and nurses to get the blood rushing! Once in UK I knobbed a Women Traffic Warden in full uniform. Had to do it from behind as she had a face like a bulldog chewing a wasp:D. Things us guys will do to avoid a ticket;).


I'd definitely hold onto that one for awhile. Certainly I'd train her up a bit more, but that is half the fun. Definitely a keeper.

Thanks H - fully intend to for a while as she has a up-for-it attitude and my deviously depraved mind has a few things in mind for us to try :D.

[Dashing Don]

Longtime members may remember a banned poster who went by these monikers: Tee It Up then Face Pisser then Prov1 then Bareback Bill then WhyMe then West Coast Will then Dildo Danny then Urban Lowlife. All of these monikers were banned after a while. But he had a colorful history and personally dispatched Junior and On The Go (now Urban Wildife). My point is this: I recently received an invitation from this character to join him for a round of golf at Intramuros next week.

I'll get to Manila on Monday and begin the usual round of fornication with the local prostitutes. I'm just worried about taking up with this character on his invitation and I thought I would ask the membership what they thought about it. This banned poster has tangled with other antagonists like Surfer and Xman. I sit here in San Francisco as I write this. Lot of fags here.

Don

[Warbucks]

Longtime members may remember a banned poster who went by these monikers: Tee It Up then Face Pisser then Prov1 then Bareback Bill then WhyMe then West Coast Will then Dildo Danny then Urban Lowlife. All of these monikers were banned after a while. But he had a colorful history and personally dispatched Junior and On The Go (now Urban Wildife). My point is this: I recently received an invitation from this character to join him for a round of golf at Intramuros next week.

I'll get to Manila on Monday and begin the usual round of fornication with the local prostitutes. I'm just worried about taking up with this character on his invitation and I thought I would ask the membership what they thought about it. This banned poster has tangled with other antagonists like Surfer and Xman. I sit here in San Francisco as I write this. Lot of fags here.

Don

If he is weird, stubborn, ornery or violent on ISG. He is weird, stubborn, ornery or violent in real life. Then again I have come to the conclusion a lot of ISG members are “internet tough guys.” But if he can’t keep his cool here I wouldn’t want to be around him in 3D. I respect guys like Nic Frenchy who whenever he has a spat here with another member he never fails to offer to buy them a drink at Giotto’s.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=internet+tough+guys

[Keen Eye Joe]

Hey everyone,

My boss was benevolent enough to let me go for 10 days, so I booked a frequent flyer mile ticket to Manila. 2 travel days, 4 days in Manila and 4 days at a resort on Malapascua Island, which is located off the northern tip of Cebu Island.

My flight arrived at around 11:30 pm and I arrived at the hotel at around 1 am. I had never been to Burgos Street in Makati, so I decided to book a room at the Best Western Astor Hotel, which is on Makati Avenue within walking distance to Burgos.

After a shower I walked over there at around 2 am. I had no intention of barfining anyone because I had read how expensive they are. So I just wanted to stroll around and take in the sights.

As most of you know, the place can get on your nerves after a while. Every 50 yards or so I met up with some jerk selling Viagra or Cialis who wouldn’t take NO for an answer. Or by some guy asking me if I wanted a girl (like I couldn’t find one on my own, haha). Plus I got hounded by more than my share of gays. They weren’t even good looking gays! I’m not sure who would go off with one of them!

But eventually I made it down to the intersection of Burgos and Makati, and started walking along Makati Avenue toward Ayala. After a couple hundred yards I started to pass by a 7-11 and stumbled across an area where streetwalkers congregate. There were about 10 of them there, and 8 of them were either gay or friggin ugly. But there was one standout who immediately caught my eye.

Her name was Shine. 19 years old, cute and petite, no kids. She had a nice smile and was very pleasant. Was wearing a really cute plaid sun dress with two inch heels. Easily the best of the bunch, and I didn’t haggle with her when she offered long time service for 1500 pesos.

We laid around and watched some cartoons for a while (it’s amazing how Asian women love watching Mr. Bean, haha). Then we started kissing, which she really seemed to love. We kissed and felt each other up for about 20 minutes, then I asked to go forward.

Blow job was rather mechanical, but she has a physically large mouth with no gag reflex, so it definitely felt great even with a condom on.

After 5 minutes I motioned that it was time to get busy. She easily had the tightest pussy I’ve ever encountered in the Phils. I wish I had brought some lubricant with me, but eventually she loosened up and Ol’ Stiffy had a great time.

We then slept for a while, and at around 7 am she asked if she could go. I was pretty tired and had no desire for a second shot, so I let her leave. 5 minutes later the hotel receptionist called to let me know she was leaving. I appreciate it when they do call, it’s nice to know someone is looking out for us in case we get drugged.

At around 11 am I met up with a gal from the Date in Asia (DIA) website. 32 years old, originally from Dipolog who was waiting in Manila for her visa to arrive so she could go to HK to work as a DH.

She acted as a combination of a tour guide and "companion". The first day we went to Ocean Park and looked at the marine life, then went to the Mall of Asia to gawk at all the stores. Later that night we met up with 4 of her girl friends at a place called the Cowboy Grille where we listened to a popular Filipino band called "Aegis". A big tankard of beer and a big plate of munchies cost me around 1000 pesos. Try taking 5 women out on the town in the USA for a mere $20-25 for the whole evening!

One of the gals was stunningly gorgeous. Easily an 8 or 9 on my scale. Near the end of the evening she sat next to me at the table and said, "Joe, I know you are with Susan tonight, but I really would like to be with you sometime". She then took out a pen and wrote her number on a piece of paper and I filed it away for future reference. God, what a country!

I didn’t want to rush things with my DIA friend, so at the end of the evening I said goodnight and took a cab back to Makati. At around 2 am I was ready for action, so I found another 1500 peso gal roaming the street. 25 years old, kind of chubby around the middle, but she was cute and fun. No earth-shattering sex, just a nice relaxing way to cap off the night.

The next day I met up with my DIA friend and we took the bus to Tagaytay for a day trip with five of her friends (2 guys and 3 gals). Total cost for bus fare, horseback riding, and a really nice lunch at a Filipino cuisine restaurant totaled around $110 US. None in the group had ever been to Tagaytay before, so it was a real treat for them. Considering that last year I was paying upwards of $60 for day trip on an escorted tour in Thailand, I thought the day’s expenditure was a bargain price. Plus my friend said she wanted to ride with me in the taxi to make sure I had no problems on my trip back to the Cherry Blossoms hotel. I had changed hotels because the Burgos Street scene had gotten old, and I felt more comfortable back in the familiar surroundings of Ermita.

Somehow I wasn’t too surprised when she walked into the hotel with me and stayed all night. How kind of her, saving me from spending 1500 pesos to find a companion for the evening, haha.

Also, it was my first time of really interacting with Filipinos in a social situation, and they were quite entertaining and fun. Even the two guys seemed to enjoy my company and we had a great time laughing and joking around. One bonus was that two of the ladies asked for my mobile phone and proceeded to enter their phone numbers. Guess they were smart enough to know that my "date" was heading out of the country for two years and hoped I would get in touch with them on future visits.

Continuing my experience as a tourist, the next day my DIA friend and I took the bus to Pangasjan falls, located about 3 hours south of Manila. For those of you who have never gone there, it’s quite a scenic journey by "long boat". It was overrun by Korean tourists and everyone has their hand out for tips, but it was still a great way to waste a day as a tourist. Heck, I can’t spend all day and night dipping my wick. Joe needs time to recover.

I had told her I was heading to Cebu for a few days to check out some potential retirement spots. I had expected she would hint at me taking her along, but she had to stay in MNL to wait for her visa and attend some DH-related classes.

I went to the Cebu Pacific ticket office at the Robinsons Mall and was stunned to find I could fly to Cebu later that day and return 4 days later for a mere 3800 pesos. Try arranging a similar flight on a US airline for $80!

I won’t bore you with details about Malapascua Island, but it is sure a lovely place. A great island to spend a few days, but be sure to bring your own lady with you. Thank goodness I had another DIA hookup waiting for me in Cebu.

Anyway, I had a one day layover (two nights) in MNL before heading back to the USA. I arrived at the Cherry Blossoms hotel by 8 pm and was out on the prowl by 9. I decided to go check my email at the internet café just down the block from the LA Café, and I spied a young cutie waiting for her friend to finish her internet surfing. We both exchanged smiles, then I sat down at my terminal. After spending 20 minutes there, I paid and walked outside and she was standing right outside the door all alone. She came right up to me and said she had been waiting for me to finish. We exchanged pleasantries and I asked how much it would be for her to come to my room. She said it would be 1, 000 pesos for all night. I knew I wasn’t going to find anyone cuter or nicer or cheaper at the LA Café, so we struck a deal.

Her name was Anna, 25 years old from CDO. One child, but she still had a very tight pussy. We went back to the room, showered, and watched tv for a while, then started the usual routine. Kissing, blow job, and then "the deed". Great time for 1, 000.

She loved cuddling me while we slept, which was really nice. The problem came when I woke up at 9 am and wanted to start my day. Unfortunately she was dead asleep and I couldn’t wake her up. I went in and showered and shaved, and came back to bed and told her she needed to go. She protested and said she was too tired to go. My God, these women will sleep all day if you let them!

The premise of P4P is that you never pay a woman for sex, you pay them to leave. With that in mind, I forcefully told her she had to shower and go now. She finally dragged her ass out of bed and 30 minutes later she was on her way with 1, 200 pesos.

I met up with my DIA friend at around noon and we spent the day window shopping at the mall and generally being lazy. Of course we made promises to each other that we would keep in contact while she was in Hong Kong. It’s amazing what I will agree to in order to get laid, haha.

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[NicFrenchy]

I respect guys like Nic Frenchy who whenever he has a spat here with another member he never fails to offer to buy them a drink at Giotto’s.

Thanks Illogic, I am flattered.

But wait... hey! I hope people will not start to argue with me just for the sake of having Free Drinks at Giotto's LOL

[Puerto La Cruz]

You are starting to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off already Frenchy!!

[Cunning Stunt]

Yeah ..[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off back to where you belong ;) ;).

Is this just a special guest appearance or are you a secret Philippines lurker? :D

[Simeon Jones]

I went out 3 different days in a row. 1st day I went bar hopping in Makati. Girls are plentiful but the barfines and lady drinks are ridiculous. Knowing what I know I would rather not pay those prices. While there were some stunners. I passed and ended up getting two phone numbers discretely. One from a waitress and one from a girl at Bottoms who took my phone and dialed her number then started texting me the day after. I probably wouldn't return here for a while. There seems to be alot of streetwalkers but I seem to have a fear that they are all he-shes. So I won't take the risk.

Day 2 was EDSA.

I went barhopping at all of the bars in the complex. While the ladydrinks are cheaper than Makati Burgos St---I did not like the agressive attitude of the girls or the Mamasans. Every time I would go to a bar, there would be like 6 girls and they would start with the obligatory questions and asking me to buy them deinks. Its just too much. I ended up passing again.

Day 3 I went to LA Cafe. Saturday night was hopping. Lots of hotties. I went upstairs and while the girls are not agressive, If you just chat one of them up they will talk to you. I saw this ridiculously beautiful 20 year old girl in the corner by herself drinking a beer. I went up to her and started chatting her up and she was giving me one word answers and didn't seem too interested but after a while she started asking me questions. The only problem was that there were like 3 other guys agressively pursuing her. She was a huge tease and started rubbing up against me lightly and then motioned for me to give her a kiss (maybe to make the other guys jealous? )I then asked her if she wanted to go with me---She just stalled and said she wanted to stay there longer. I told her I was leaving as it was 3am and I wanted to play Baccarat at the Hyatt. She says "Whats wrong with you"--I told her that if I wanted to play games I will play them at the casino and try and win money. She asked me to give her my number which I did and she actually texted me this morning telling me she is bored and her likes are swimming and smoking weed. Who knows maybe she'll budge---By the way I won 16000pesos playing Baccarat in like 30 minutes so it was probably the best decision to leave.

I did not want to go home empty handed 3 nights in a row so on the way home (I live in the Fort)I stopped at this place called japnys bar and restaraunt or something like that. (no restaraunt but its near LA Cafe)_There are like 15 girls and they line up for you. I chose 2 gorgeous young gals. I paid the mamasan 3000 for both of them and gave them each 1000 when they left around 9 am. They basically did anything I wanted so use your imagination. So all in all--if I did it again I would just go to LA Cafe and choose there as that seems to be the best option in Manila IMHO.

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[Mr Hawaii]

Just returned from AF One about one hour ago. Nothing has changed. Economy class girls were 800p (room only), but you could upgrade to business class room for 1000p (200p more), which I did. The first girl I chose was from Davao, after taking shower she informed me "one baby". I put on my robe, walked out to the front, complained, and they let me pick another girl, no extra charge. Amazing! The guy at the front told me I should have told him that I wanted a girl with no baby and he would have helped more. OK. The 2nd girl was "fair" small breasts, just hugged for a while, then decided that is enough. Gave her 500p, she seemed a little disappointed, but what the hell. Did nothing..anyway, if you go, do take the business class room, even if you take the economy girl. The economy rooms really suck, the business room are large, have toilet, closet, steam room, good size shower, small fridge, which contains drinks - can of sprite was 155p. If you order iced tea it is over 200p !!! Will probably go back tomorrow to try the bus. and first class girls..only problem is the rooms for those girls are 2000p!! The guy in front say the tip for the girl is 2000p also.

[Bob Bowie]

[QUOTE=Keen Eye Joe]Hey everyone,

My boss was benevolent enough to let me go for 10 days, so I booked a frequent flyer mile ticket to Manila. 2 travel days, 4 days in Manila and 4 days at a resort on Malapascua Island, which is located off the northern tip of Cebu Island.

Great Information that I can put to use. My next trip I will not have much time and I have been practicing Tagalog. I plan to travel around Luzon and meet different girls there, with a side trip to Davao because I have a few girls there already broken in and ready to go from my last trip.

I hope to get 3 weeks off from work, but my boss can be a dick so I may be stuck with only 2 weeks.

[Robbaf]

Just returned from AF One about one hour ago. Nothing has changed. Economy class girls were 800p (room only), but you could upgrade to business class room for 1000p (200p more), which I did. The first girl I chose was from Davao, after taking shower she informed me "one baby". I put on my robe, walked out to the front, complained, and they let me pick another girl, no extra charge. Amazing! The guy at the front told me I should have told him that I wanted a girl with no baby and he would have helped more. OK. The 2nd girl was "fair" small breasts, just hugged for a while, then decided that is enough. Gave her 500p, she seemed a little disappointed, but what the hell. Did nothing..anyway, if you go, do take the business class room, even if you take the economy girl. The economy rooms really suck, the business room are large, have toilet, closet, steam room, good size shower, small fridge, which contains drinks - can of sprite was 155p. If you order iced tea it is over 200p !!! Will probably go back tomorrow to try the bus. and first class girls..only problem is the rooms for those girls are 2000p!! The guy in front say the tip for the girl is 2000p also.Your post shocked me:eek:as I have been to AF1 over 10 times and I have always got full service. My understanding is it was full service on every level. Also, if you go noon until six it is cheaper.

Anyone else not get full service here?

Robb

[Sammon]

I went out 3 different days in a row. 1st day I went bar hopping in Makati. Girls are plentiful but the barfines and lady drinks are ridiculous. Knowing what I know I would rather not pay those prices. While there were some stunners. I passed and ended up getting two phone numbers discretely. One from a waitress and one from a girl at Bottoms who took my phone and dialed her number then started texting me the day after. I probably wouldn't return here for a while. There seems to be alot of streetwalkers but I seem to have a fear that they are all he-shes. So I won't take the risk.

Day 2 was EDSA.

I went barhopping at all of the bars in the complex. While the ladydrinks are cheaper than Makati Burgos St---I did not like the agressive attitude of the girls or the Mamasans. Every time I would go to a bar, there would be like 6 girls and they would start with the obligatory questions and asking me to buy them deinks. Its just too much. I ended up passing again.

Day 3 I went to LA Cafe. Saturday night was hopping. Lots of hotties. I went upstairs and while the girls are not agressive, If you just chat one of them up they will talk to you. I saw this ridiculously beautiful 20 year old girl in the corner by herself drinking a beer. I went up to her and started chatting her up and she was giving me one word answers and didn't seem too interested but after a while she started asking me questions. The only problem was that there were like 3 other guys agressively pursuing her. She was a huge tease and started rubbing up against me lightly and then motioned for me to give her a kiss (maybe to make the other guys jealous? )I then asked her if she wanted to go with me---She just stalled and said she wanted to stay there longer. I told her I was leaving as it was 3am and I wanted to play Baccarat at the Hyatt. She says "Whats wrong with you"--I told her that if I wanted to play games I will play them at the casino and try and win money. She asked me to give her my number which I did and she actually texted me this morning telling me she is bored and her likes are swimming and smoking weed. Who knows maybe she'll budge---By the way I won 16000pesos playing Baccarat in like 30 minutes so it was probably the best decision to leave.

I did not want to go home empty handed 3 nights in a row so on the way home (I live in the Fort)I stopped at this place called japnys bar and restaraunt or something like that. (no restaraunt but its near LA Cafe)_There are like 15 girls and they line up for you. I chose 2 gorgeous young gals. I paid the mamasan 3000 for both of them and gave them each 1000 when they left around 9 am. They basically did anything I wanted so use your imagination. So all in all--if I did it again I would just go to LA Cafe and choose there as that seems to be the best option in Manila IMHO.

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Where is japnys bar in relation to LA cafe?

[Drignotum]

A few of you guys recommended a girl a while back named anna that was a freelancer. Any chance I could get her contact info since finally I will be touching down in mnl.

Also, what are my best options for short time hotels, I hear sogo are decent.

[John Jr]

Just returned from AF One about one hour ago. Nothing has changed. Economy class girls were 800p (room only), but you could upgrade to business class room for 1000p (200p more), which I did. The first girl I chose was from Davao, after taking shower she informed me "one baby". I put on my robe, walked out to the front, complained, and they let me pick another girl, no extra charge. Amazing! The guy at the front told me I should have told him that I wanted a girl with no baby and he would have helped more. OK. The 2nd girl was "fair" small breasts, just hugged for a while, then decided that is enough. Gave her 500p, she seemed a little disappointed, but what the hell. Did nothing..anyway, if you go, do take the business class room, even if you take the economy girl. The economy rooms really suck, the business room are large, have toilet, closet, steam room, good size shower, small fridge, which contains drinks - can of sprite was 155p. If you order iced tea it is over 200p !!! Will probably go back tomorrow to try the bus. and first class girls..only problem is the rooms for those girls are 2000p!! The guy in front say the tip for the girl is 2000p also.

Sounds like a nice place to relax ,

Do they have a website ? Are the rates the same for all the girls ?

[Simeon Jones]

Where is japnys bar in relation to LA cafe? Its very near. Just can't explain because I was a bit drunk. Walking distance in the daytime but not recommended at night. Its actually called Japlat or something similar. I am sure that some other members are familiar with it. Either way, you can call the mamasan and ask her to give you directions via text. PM me for her cell number.

[Professional]

You are starting to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off already Frenchy!!Yeah frenchy you're starting to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off too.

Can I have my drink now.

[HenryV]

Still the same - great! This place is College all over again. what a mixture of stunners and "grody gals." You have to be quick to size a gal up coming toward you, otherwise, once you make eye contact they believe it is a signal from you to come over and start talking.

Went in at 1:30 am, wound up staying until 5 am. A very unusual scene occurred about 4:30 am when a blonde caucasin gal (20 ish), about six foot and with the looks of a supermodel, put on a real show dancing at the end of the bar. I just could not believe this gals looks.

Great place just to hang-out and relax, except they are getting very pushy with respect to the junk food and other things they sell. Told one gal, no less than ten times (I counted) I was not interested.

[X Man]

Great post from KEJ.....traveling, meeting the locals, cultural experiences, and gool ol' fashioned sex.

Malapascua details would be much appreciated. I've never been there, but a girl I balled in Ormoc now works at one of the bars. I may have to visit sometime soon.

BTW, instead of taking the horses at Tagaytay, it's only a one hour hike.

X


Hey everyone,

I won’t bore you with details about Malapascua Island, but it is sure a lovely place. A great island to spend a few days, but be sure to bring your own lady with you. Thank goodness I had another DIA hookup waiting for me in Cebu.


I met up with my DIA friend at around noon and we spent the day window shopping at the mall and generally being lazy. Of course we made promises to each other that we would keep in contact while she was in Hong Kong. It’s amazing what I will agree to in order to get laid, haha.

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[Warmjan]

I have to say that I'm surprised everyone raves about LA Cafe. I checked it one night in late December and it took me hours to find someone I wanted to take home (actually, I took home a pair of best friends -- but I had just about given up by the time I found them).

It was very crowded, but the girls were nothing to write home about. Then again, I believe this was a Monday night -- could that be the reason?




Still the same - great! This place is College all over again. what a mixture of stunners and "grody gals." You have to be quick to size a gal up coming toward you, otherwise, once you make eye contact they believe it is a signal from you to come over and start talking.

Went in at 1:30 am, wound up staying until 5 am. A very unusual scene occurred about 4:30 am when a blonde caucasin gal (20 ish), about six foot and with the looks of a supermodel, put on a real show dancing at the end of the bar. I just could not believe this gals looks.

Great place just to hang-out and relax, except they are getting very pushy with respect to the junk food and other things they sell. Told one gal, no less than ten times (I counted) I was not interested.

[Key Master]

I have to say that I'm surprised everyone raves about LA Cafe. I checked it one night in late December and it took me hours to find someone I wanted to take home (actually, I took home a pair of best friends -- but I had just about given up by the time I found them).

It was very crowded, but the girls were nothing to write home about. Then again, I believe this was a Monday night -- could that be the reason?


Quality will vary of course. Most of the time you won't find much downstairs, but I think the quality has gotten a little better. I think some of the women now, don't bother to go upstairs so much because it gets expensive for them to go upstairs and not get taken. It's slowing down there in regards to revenue,I think. The other thing is late December a lot of women might have gone home for Xmas. Easter and Xmas are big for them. It will vary either way in talent.

[Dan 357]

Its very near. Just can't explain because I was a bit drunk. Walking distance in the daytime but not recommended at night. Its actually called Japlat or something similar. I am sure that some other members are familiar with it. Either way, you can call the mamasan and ask her to give you directions via text. PM me for her cell number.Based on your description it sounds like you are talking about Japlac. It is walking distance from LA Cafe albeit a reasonably long one. I ran across it on J. Bocobo street somewhere around UN avenue as i recall. It is kind of a hybrid bar/casa type place. The girls I saw there were along the same scale as LA Cafe with a mix of good and marginal. The main difference was most of them were dressed in lingerie instead of street clothes. It was worth stopping in for a beer just to look at the 30 or so girls that were available.

[HenryV]

What a classic ripoff. Went there around 1pm, at the suggestion of a friend, to take advantage of their "Happy Hour." It was not so happy.

I am not cheap, but I can recognize a con when I see one.

First off, needed to take a leak, 125p for a towel to wipe my hands.

Asked the manager to have the lady I was thinking about taking stand up. He refused. Asked if I could talk with her a second, He refused.

Despite the extravigant motiff, the room was a dungeon. As soon as the girl got to the room a guy stuck his head in and said "wouldn't you like to buy a drink for the lady sir." The pineapple juice for the lady was 425p.

The gal gave a half-assed massage, and did not say one word during the whole process. It was like I was a piece of meet on a slab.

When she was all done she opend the door and, as she was leaving, politely told me I still had an hour left so feel free to "take a nap sir."

Told the manager on the way out and his attitude was, too bad you already paid (2000p).

Spread the word far and wide, stay away from this place.

[Fast Eddie 48]

What a classic ripoff. Went there around 1pm, at the suggestion of a friend, to take advantage of their "Happy Hour." It was not so happy.

I am not cheap, but I can recognize a con when I see one.

First off, needed to take a leak, 125p for a towel to wipe my hands.

Asked the manager to have the lady I was thinking about taking stand up. He refused. Asked if I could talk with her a second, He refused.

Despite the extravigant motiff, the room was a dungeon. As soon as the girl got to the room a guy stuck his head in and said "wouldn't you like to buy a drink for the lady sir." The pineapple juice for the lady was 425p.

The gal gave a half-assed massage, and did not say one word during the whole process. It was like I was a piece of meet on a slab.

When she was all done she opend the door and, as she was leaving, politely told me I still had an hour left so feel free to "take a nap sir."

Told the manager on the way out and his attitude was, too bad you already paid (2000p).

Spread the word far and wide, stay away from this place.Bill,

This is a upscale place it is very pricey. The staff and the girl work on tips for the FS ,if you turn down the FS her attiude will change to the worst ,this is not a place to come and get a massage ,you should just stay in AC.

Fast eddie 48

[Devils 1]

What a classic ripoff. Went there around 1pm, at the suggestion of a friend, to take advantage of their "Happy Hour." It was not so happy.

I am not cheap, but I can recognize a con when I see one.

First off, needed to take a leak, 125p for a towel to wipe my hands.

Asked the manager to have the lady I was thinking about taking stand up. He refused. Asked if I could talk with her a second, He refused.

Despite the extravigant motiff, the room was a dungeon. As soon as the girl got to the room a guy stuck his head in and said "wouldn't you like to buy a drink for the lady sir." The pineapple juice for the lady was 425p.

The gal gave a half-assed massage, and did not say one word during the whole process. It was like I was a piece of meet on a slab.

When she was all done she opend the door and, as she was leaving, politely told me I still had an hour left so feel free to "take a nap sir."

Told the manager on the way out and his attitude was, too bad you already paid (2000p).

Spread the word far and wide, stay away from this place.I am really surprised to hear this. I have been several times and know many people who had great experiences there. I for one will stake my reputation on it.

One time I had a girl there that absolutely refused to let me leave without blowing a 2nd nut. She tore the condom off after I had been nailing her for about 30 mins and said I will give you a BJ until you come no matter how long it takes!

[Warbucks]

The gal gave a half-assed massage, and did not say one word during the whole process. It was like I was a piece of meet on a slab.

When she was all done she opend the door and, as she was leaving, politely told me I still had an hour left so feel free to "take a nap sir."

Told the manager on the way out and his attitude was, too bad you already paid (2000p).

Spread the word far and wide, stay away from this place.

When you dance with the devil have to learn to dance around the flames.

[HenryV]

First, I have been to high end places before and do not mind paying for good service, however, from the very begining this gal was extremely unfriendly.

Second, never had the chance to turn her down, she just headed for the door, pronto, after the massage.

Thirdly, I am not in Angeles.


Bill,

This is a upscale place it is very pricey. The staff and the girl work on tips for the FS ,if you turn down the FS her attiude will change to the worst ,this is not a place to come and get a massage ,you should just stay in AC.

Fast eddie 48

[HenryV]

Spot on - thank you.


When you dance with the devil have to learn to dance around the flames.

[Cunning Stunt]

What a classic ripoff. Went there around 1pm, at the suggestion of a friend, to take advantage of their "Happy Hour." It was not so happy.

Thanks for the heads up, Bill. I've been meaning to try the place for ages, in view of the positive reviews that the place have received, but will probably now give the place a swerve.

It would immediately put me in a cranky mood with the apparent unhelpfulness of the papasans and the payment demand in the CR for what should be a complementary towel. And the 1200% mark up on the pineapple juice would really get me spitting feathers. Why is it always the case that greed now rather than a longer term view of customer care, is always the keynote in these sort of places in The Philippines? Their business plan is screw the maximum from their customers whilst offering the minimum possible service and fuck the repeat business.

Best to visit either China and Thailand if you are really into the genuine massage parlor experience. There you get the real deal at reasonable, non rip off prices.

[Fast Eddie 48]

First, I have been to high end places before and do not mind paying for good service, however, from the very begining this gal was extremely unfriendly.

Second, never had the chance to turn her down, she just headed for the door, pronto, after the massage.

Thirdly, I am not in Angeles.Billpsu,

I been to Air force one a few time always have good service every time, I know that is very pricey place but they do have some stunner at Bussiness class, sometime you just have to spoil yourself.

I always tip the manager 200 peso they are very helpful, I don't know why the girl didn't offer you extra maybe she didn't like you, I would of compalin to the management to change the girl, Manila is not a good place for a massage, if you want good massage and a FS go to Thailand next time.

Fast Eddie 48

[Scout 7272]

I have always found myself disappointed when arriving in manila without preparation and just intending to find a hot woman just from bar-hopping.

The bar-hopping method is a bit of a miss because the girls may look great but you end up paying a fortune for something a bit rushed and not as good in the sack as they are in looks in the bar.

I have found using chat sites a better bet as you can sort of suss out if the girls are in it for fun and have the right attitude.

The other avenue is just to hang out at the right malls at the right time.

Its clearer so you can see how attractive the girl really is and you have more time to chat her up and size up her attitude.

Had the best fun that way.

Others on the forum can advise you on the best pick up malls.

[HenryV]

Again, I do treat myself sometimes and go high end, I just don't know what happened.

Also make it a point to act like a gentleman, sometimes to the point of being effusive, goes a long way her. I just would't want someone else to take that long cab ride (staying at the Hyatt) for nothing.

I have been to Thailand and their massage service is to die for. I fell hard for one gal. Belive it or not, she was 34, but had the body of a 20 year old.

Will be returning there (Thailand) in August.


Billpsu,

I been to Air force one a few time always have good service every time, I know that is very pricey place but they do have some stunner at Bussiness class, sometime you just have to spoil yourself.

I always tip the manager 200 peso they are very helpful, I don't know why the girl didn't offer you extra maybe she didn't like you, I would of compalin to the management to change the girl, Manila is not a good place for a massage, if you want good massage and a FS go to Thailand next time.

Fast Eddie 48

[Bill Buxton]

I am really surprised to hear this. I have been several times and know many people who had great experiences there. I for one will stake my reputation on it.

One time I had a girl there that absolutely refused to let me leave without blowing a 2nd nut. She tore the condom off after I had been nailing her for about 30 mins and said I will give you a BJ until you come no matter how long it takes!Could be a reason why you got bad service, I am sure it was not all the girl.

[HenryV]

My last comment on this subject - you have been warned.


Could be a reason why you got bad service, I am sure it was not all the girl.

[HenryV]

Anyone had any direct experience with respect to Star Fleet?

Thinking about going before I leave town.

Thank you.

[Key Master]

This is a little ridiculous on both sides. In any mongering venue there are going to be downright bad girls. That's the way it goes. Just because one person had a first time bad experience doesn't mean the rest are like that. And for the people who have had success on all or the majority of their visits, doesn't mean there aren't bad providers at the same establishment. It happens, and it will continue to happen. The problem with places like this is that the costs are a little higher, so getting a disappointment stings more than it will in other venues. Whether or not the person is cool or not, might not matter in regards to getting good service. Sometimes, you just have bad luck and get a shit provider. Just because you haven't doesn't mean they don't exist or you won't later. At the same time, one bad provider doesn't make the whole place bad.

[HenryV]

-"This is a little ridiculous on both sides."

It would appear to me the essencene of this board is the exchange and debate of information regarding ones experiences at specific locations. Indeed, the discussion that is generated allows the reader to make a more informed decsion on where to spend his mongering dollar.

Presented in the correct manner - as all who have disagreed with me on this matter have done - such debates are not "ridiculous," rather, they are the fundamental purpose of this board.



This is a little ridiculous on both sides. In any mongering venue there are going to be downright bad girls. That's the way it goes. Just because one person had a first time bad experience doesn't mean the rest are like that. And for the people who have had success on all or the majority of their visits, doesn't mean there aren't bad providers at the same establishment. It happens, and it will continue to happen. The problem with places like this is that the costs are a little higher, so getting a disappointment stings more than it will in other venues. Whether or not the person is cool or not, might not matter in regards to getting good service. Sometimes, you just have bad luck and get a shit provider. Just because you haven't doesn't mean they don't exist or you won't later. At the same time, one bad provider doesn't make the whole place bad.

[HenryV]

Last night in Manila before I meet up with "she who must be obeyed."

Went to EDSA to check out the girls and, after looking at the selection, I actully decided not to go to Angeles City. The vast majority of the girls I saw looked like they just discovered carbohydrates (Jolly-Bee syndrome). My last trip to Angeles left me feeling the same way.

Thanks to the info some gave me from this thread finally stopped at the Cafe Havana in Greenbelt. Great place, only problem was I went on a Saturday night and, as a result, it was so crowded I could not even get to the bar. Notwithstanding, looks like a fun place, will go again.

In my opinion LA Cafe is still best place to monger. I got a hotel room not far away so spent a majority of my time there. I am amazed at the range of girls that work there - had two great picks. The first was a nursing student from Davao. Actually met her one morning at 6am when I went in for coffee. She was 20yo and no kids. She told me this was her first time coming to the Cafe and did not have much experience. I believed her until we got back to the room. She did not perform like a first timer, excellent bbj and great lay. A real matress demon. It was obvious she would have stayed but, since I had been up all night, I steered the conversation around to being tired, so she left.

The other great lay was a gal I literally bumped into at about 3 am. By the way, it seems this is a very good time becasue the panic of having no customer is almost palpable. Also, saw some gals from EDSA come in. Anyway, this gal was 23 and stacked. She acutally had her own condo that some Dr. in LA (US) she broke up with was still paying on until June. She also had an Australian coming to visit her on May 1st, and a German guy on May 5th. Quite a dance card. Turned out to be a great lay. She let me do things to her they don't even have names for yet. Broke my own rule and took her a couple of times.

You should take the time to talk to these girls about their work, I heard some absolutely hilariouls experiences some had. Laughed for hours one night.

One of the qualifiers I had on this trip was that the girl must have no children. I am tired of getting back to the room and seeing everything sag profusely when the girl removes her clothes. No exageration, I must of turned down about 25-30 gals because they had a child. In the US all these girls would be considered very desirable.

One not so great experience was at the Amazonia (up street from LA Cafe). Met a gal, 23yo and very sexy, who told me she had no children. When we got back to my room she took off her dress and, although she was not lying, what she failed to tell me about was the hideous scar on her stomach she received from a knife fight - the only way I could cope was to turn her over (great ass) and finish up that way.

Big cat-fight last night around 10pm when two gals got into it, spilled out onto the street. Not a pretty sight.

Hope some of this was helpful - off to Thailand this August.

[Warbucks]

Last night in Manila before I meet up with "she who must be obeyed."

Went to EDSA to check out the girls and, after looking at the selection, I actully decided not to go to Angeles City. The vast majority of the girls I saw looked like they just discovered carbohydrates (Jolly-Bee syndrome). My last trip to Angeles left me feeling the same way.

Thanks to the info some gave me from this thread finally stopped at the Cafe Havana in Greenbelt. Great place, only problem was I went on a Saturday night and, as a result, it was so crowded I could not even get to the bar. Notwithstanding, looks like a fun place, will go again.

In my opinion LA Cafe is still best place to monger. I got a hotel room not far away so spent a majority of my time there. I am amazed at the range of girls that work there - had two great picks. The first was a nursing student from Davao. Actually met her one morning at 6am when I went in for coffee. She was 20yo and no kids. She told me this was her first time coming to the Cafe and did not have much experience. I believed her until we got back to the room. She did not perform like a first timer, excellent bbj and great lay. A real matress demon. It was obvious she would have stayed but, since I had been up all night, I steered the conversation around to being tired, so she left.

The other great lay was a gal I literally bumped into at about 3 am. By the way, it seems this is a very good time becasue the panic of having no customer is almost palpable. Also, saw some gals from EDSA come in. Anyway, this gal was 23 and stacked. She acutally had her own condo that some Dr. in LA (US) she broke up with was still paying on until June. She also had an Australian coming to visit her on May 1st, and a German guy on May 5th. Quite a dance card. Turned out to be a great lay. She let me do things to her they don't even have names for yet. Broke my own rule and took her a couple of times.

You should take the time to talk to these girls about their work, I heard some absolutely hilariouls experiences some had. Laughed for hours one night.

One of the qualifiers I had on this trip was that the girl must have no children. I am tired of getting back to the room and seeing everything sag profusely when the girl removes her clothes. No exageration, I must of turned down about 25-30 gals because they had a child. In the US all these girls would be considered very desirable.

One not so great experience was at the Amazonia (up street from LA Cafe). Met a gal, 23yo and very sexy, who told me she had no children. When we got back to my room she took off her dress and, although she was not lying, what she failed to tell me about was the hideous scar on her stomach she received from a knife fight - the only way I could cope was to turn her over (great ass) and finish up that way.

Big cat-fight last night around 10pm when two gals got into it, spilled out onto the street. Not a pretty sight.

Hope some of this was helpful - off to Thailand this August.

Bill enjoyed your reports. Some guys never have a bad time. I believe that like I would believe a drug addict when he or she says they will pay you back later. I appreciate the guys who report the good with the bad.

[Robbaf]

Anyone had any direct experience with respect to Star Fleet?

Thinking about going before I leave town.

Thank you.

I did a report on it a while back. If you do check it out, let me know if it has changed.

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Robb

[Cunning Stunt]

The magic of LA Café, as astute members have previously pointed out, is the anticipation of not knowing what hidden gems you will find when you cross its portals. One thing is for sure is that, apart from the old regular faces, both male and female, there will be always be a bunch of new girls to appraise, every time you visit. Like many an expat Manila resident, my ‘little black book’ is so full of the CP numbers of so many potentials and dead certs, that the real need to use the place is redundant. However, I still like to visit at least once or twice a month and get a real buzz of expectation every time I enter the place. I have met some amazing women in that seedy shit hole.

The thing about LA Cafe is patience, timing and a little slice of luck. The place can be hopelessly full of skanks one moment, but if you leave and return a couple of hours later, it might have undergone an amazing transformation and is now heaving with the fit, young bodies of lovely Pinays. This has happened to me times without number and I assure you that it was not the SML’s that I had drank in the meantime:D. It is simply the mechanics of the place. Many of the girls who visit LA Café are initially introduced by a friend and may have little or no prior experience of P4P. I’ve met so many of this type. They may visit just the once and that’s enough for them, or a few times and are seen no more or become a regular. But one thing characterizes this type of girl and that is that they are initially more backward at coming forward with a potential customer and so you are the one who have to make the running. I have found that those girls who make the initial approach are the more hardened LA pro’s so I tend, these days, to discount this type. So I look to hunt in the darker nooks and crannies where the shyer newbies hang out. Or they are the ones who are wandering around distractedly, as though looking for a lost mate. Making eye contact and smiling will usually bring them out of their shells and over to your side, unless they have ‘For East Asian Use Only’ stamped on their foreheads;). But there are no certainties with LA Café and I have left the place disappointed and alone (or with a less attractive compromise) nearly as many times as I have with a babe.

One thing I have noticed is that the number of lowlifes hanging about in the vicinity of LA Café seems to have increased proportionately in recent months. Is it the credit crunch? I was manhandled, in broad daylight, on Pedro Gil the other day, by 2 bottom feeders, 50 yards from the police outpost! Suspect that I was being set up for a mugging but when I took an aggressive stance, they backed off and I was able to cross the street. I would advise members to be very careful in this area 24/7 and to be particularly careful at night.

[Mr Hawaii]

There is a scam going on where girls put their hands all over you, hug you, etc., then plant drugs on you. They work with police, who then arrest you, and, well, you know the rest. Security at a hotel told me about this because it happened to one of the hotel guests....so be careful.

[HenryV]

Thank you very much.

By the way, great report.


I did a report on it a while back. If you do check it out, let me know if it has changed.

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Robb

[Sxxxx]

There is a scam going on where girls put their hands all over you, hug you, etc., then plant drugs on you. They work with police, who then arrest you, and, well, you know the rest. Security at a hotel told me about this because it happened to one of the hotel guests....so be careful.Thanks for that sobering information. A must read for all.

What is front door security doing when all this is going on?

[Bill Buxton]

-"This is a little ridiculous on both sides."

It would appear to me the essence of this board is the exchange and debate of information regarding ones experiences at specific locations. Indeed, the discussion that is generated allows the reader to make a more informed decision on where to spend his mongering dollar.

Presented in the correct manner - as all who have disagreed with me on this matter have done - such debates are not "ridiculous," rather, they are the fundamental purpose of this board.Its A guide not the gospel truth from some bigmouth mopes. Tell your story but never think any 2 people ever get the same stories from the same people. I have dated gals that others have had bad times with and made out great. The same goes back the other way, nice to my friend and nasty to me! "not a guys gf just bf gals"

You never know what's GOING ON with these birds, 1 second to the next. They give and get info via text by the second, most of witch is all half bullshit, bola bola info anyway. They tell lies about us "ANYBODY" and try and discourage each other from trusting us.

THIS IS NOT ROCKETT SCIENCE its a smoke and mirrors game played by both sides.

THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT US THAN YOU CAN IMMAGINE, OUR HABBITS, VISITORS, AND THATS A FACT. This could be why some are easily set up for fall. They have eyes, ears, and friends everywhere, and the ability to send this information out. I never went to the same place at the same time, day EVER. Keep the mopes off balance on your trips to the bank, or use a different bank. Twenty pesos in a trike might save you some drama when using a different bank ATM. You here about the scams but be sharp, be aware, stagger your schedule.

Example-they see a guy with there workmate, they might have gotten a bf from this guy days weeks before. The first gals experience was a good time overall for the first gal. She now sees the second gal walking down the street with this same guy, and she gets pissed off because she was late for work, "whatever" and thinks THIS GUY IS HER CASH COW NOBODY ELSES! She then txts the second gal making a shit storm so the second gal could never enjoy her night out even if the guy gave her 1000-p per second.

I am sure every guy has walked into a bar that he has visited before and heard, THATS "WHOEVER" BF, YES-NO.

That's the way it is, its about pera, security, getting the last laugh, making the other guy stupid for some personal gain. WHY DO WE TRY AND BED EVERY GAL WE SEE? THE LITTLE HEAD CONTROLS THE BIG HEAD AND THATS THE PROBLEM. There GAIN IS MONEY, OUR GAME IS pu'''''' that's the deal. Most of the guys here drink so much they could never get a hard joint anyway. Or so fucking old they get semi annual erections, so who they gonna hurt. The fact that some old fuck can travel around an have some 18 year old fetching his drinks gives the moron a false sense of youth. In his mind he thinks he has regained his sex appeal, good looks, testerone like in his youth. The funny thing is the longer they stay here, the more they believe these delusions of grandeur. THE FACTS ARE THEY"GIRLS" WANT CASH, SECURETY, HOME, AND WHATEVER ELSE HE OFFERS UP. I have seen guys go from flush to dead ass broke in a matter of a few years, while others just coast along with there monthly pensions. Either way most guys don't have the ability to deal with most gals head on. I know this because of the difficulty I had and I do not drink! How could you ever be up to good decisions when impaired.

Please don't think the same "turf" shit would not happen at home with a street, club p4p gal. Being the economy is slack in the states the girls working this industry would react both to us and the other gal in much the same way.

Please don't think this BS just happens over here. Gals from here that live in the states do the same things there as well. They lie, steal, tell stories and borrow money that they will never pay back. The just figure they are one up on the pole, and can slide in the old games they learned in there country on the unsuspecting new arrivals.

Play the way you want, but always know the chances are there that at any given time you might get stung. When you play with fire! We all know that answer. Try and give a place a 2-3 visits and get to know the deal. After 3 strikes your out, but who knows, could be visit #2 and you get a home run! Another thing, remember the cost involved here, its cheep money for the gal that treats you good for the night. Relax passe yourself, don't blow your whole load in the first stop.

B. B.

[Redfield10]

Yes, this area was horrrrible.

I was so surprised.

I was also robbed three weeks ago there by three (maybe four) thugs.

I was lucky.



The magic of LA Café, as astute members have previously pointed out, is the anticipation of not knowing what hidden gems you will find when you cross its portals. One thing is for sure is that, apart from the old regular faces, both male and female, there will be always be a bunch of new girls to appraise, every time you visit. Like many an expat Manila resident, my ‘little black book’ is so full of the CP numbers of so many potentials and dead certs, that the real need to use the place is redundant. However, I still like to visit at least once or twice a month and get a real buzz of expectation every time I enter the place. I have met some amazing women in that seedy shit hole.

The thing about LA Cafe is patience, timing and a little slice of luck. The place can be hopelessly full of skanks one moment, but if you leave and return a couple of hours later, it might have undergone an amazing transformation and is now heaving with the fit, young bodies of lovely Pinays. This has happened to me times without number and I assure you that it was not the SML’s that I had drank in the meantime:D. It is simply the mechanics of the place. Many of the girls who visit LA Café are initially introduced by a friend and may have little or no prior experience of P4P. I’ve met so many of this type. They may visit just the once and that’s enough for them, or a few times and are seen no more or become a regular. But one thing characterizes this type of girl and that is that they are initially more backward at coming forward with a potential customer and so you are the one who have to make the running. I have found that those girls who make the initial approach are the more hardened LA pro’s so I tend, these days, to discount this type. So I look to hunt in the darker nooks and crannies where the shyer newbies hang out. Or they are the ones who are wandering around distractedly, as though looking for a lost mate. Making eye contact and smiling will usually bring them out of their shells and over to your side, unless they have ‘For East Asian Use Only’ stamped on their foreheads;). But there are no certainties with LA Café and I have left the place disappointed and alone (or with a less attractive compromise) nearly as many times as I have with a babe.

One thing I have noticed is that the number of lowlifes hanging about in the vicinity of LA Café seems to have increased proportionately in recent months. Is it the credit crunch? I was manhandled, in broad daylight, on Pedro Gil the other day, by 2 bottom feeders, 50 yards from the police outpost! Suspect that I was being set up for a mugging but when I took an aggressive stance, they backed off and I was able to cross the street. I would advise members to be very careful in this area 24/7 and to be particularly careful at night.

[Puerto La Cruz]

Thanks for the heads up guys. May not even make it to LA Cafe if that's the way the neighborhood has changed lately.

Nobody needs that crap anywhere in the world

As usual, I am only spending a day or two in MNL and getting out of there. But if my thoughts of safety in Ermita are at all compromised, I'll just have the steady meet me at the hotel.

[Warbucks]

One thing I have noticed is that the number of lowlifes hanging about in the vicinity of LA Café seems to have increased proportionately in recent months. Is it the credit crunch? I was manhandled, in broad daylight, on Pedro Gil the other day, by 2 bottom feeders, 50 yards from the police outpost! Suspect that I was being set up for a mugging but when I took an aggressive stance, they backed off and I was able to cross the street. I would advise members to be very careful in this area 24/7 and to be particularly careful at night.


Yes, this area was horrrrible.

I was so surprised.

I was also robbed three weeks ago there by three (maybe four) thugs.

I was lucky.


Thanks for the heads up guys. May not even make it to LA Cafe if that's the way the neighborhood has changed lately.

Nobody needs that crap anywhere in the world

As usual, I am only spending a day or two in MNL and getting out of there. But if my thoughts of safety in Ermita are at all compromised, I'll just have the steady meet me at the hotel.

PLC you PMed me a while back exclaiming that you knew which city I was from which is the most murderous in America. I find my hometown to be more dangerous than Manila especially considering I was born dirt poor in the most dangerous area of that city.

In my 5 years of going to the PI and now living there I have never been pick pocket or robbed. Scammed and rip-offed you bet but usually this occurs when I am not paying attention, guard down pussy on the brain etc. I don’t know why some guys get attacked and some don’t. I am usually wearing nice clothes when I am out and I am not shy about spending.

What could it be that makes the criminals mark some guys as targets?

I encourage all newbies to go by LA it’s a great experience if you have never been there. It’s kind of a “must see” for the Manila mongering scene

[Redfield10]

Illogic,

I think you've just been lucky. I find it funny (and sort of insulting) with the constant insinuating that I (or anyone else who has been robbed, pickpocketed, etc.) has done something wrong or has somehow been targeted because of what we look like, who we are, what color eyes we have, how old or young we are, etc.

Sure, maybe if you are a 90 pound weakling and old. Or if you are obnoxious or if you are not careful. But I think many times it's just because manila (and particularly the area around la cafe) can be a rather dangerous place.

I work in Oakland. 4 cops were murdered there last night. There can't be worse city in the united states to live. Nor a more dangerous one. People killed nightly. Horrible, corrupt city. But I have worked there for 12 years. Go out for lunch. Walk around downtown. And nothing has ever happenned to me.

Does that mean somehow I have "the look" that prevents me from being robbed, killed, or whateaver? I think not. It's just the luck of the draw.

That doesn't mean Oakland is safe. It may be that I've just been fortunate.

I will tell you one thing that I am positive of. Bangkok is many multiple times safer than manila. And I never felt in a bit of danger in Cambodia or Saigon. But I sure did in that area by la cafe.

That said. I did love la cafe. Haha.


PLC you PMed me a while back exclaiming that you knew which city I was from which is the most murderous in America. I find my hometown to be more dangerous than Manila especially considering I was born dirt poor in the most dangerous area of that city.

In my 5 years of going to the PI and now living there I have never been pick pocket or robbed. Scammed and rip-offed you bet but usually this occurs when I am not paying attention, guard down pussy on the brain etc. I don’t know why some guys get attacked and some don’t. I am usually wearing nice clothes when I am out and I am not shy about spending.

What could it be that makes the criminals mark some guys as targets?

I encourage all newbies to go by LA it’s a great experience if you have never been there. It’s kind of a “must see” for the Manila mongering scene

[Mr Hawaii]

hotel security told me of the scam, but drugs were planted on the men outside the hotel, in the street. girls would then notify police which hotel the men went in to, but would only have description, not names. can't remember exact details, but the security boss did say he managed to get rid of all the drugs (marijuana) and no ill harm came to the guests. the other scam was mamasans working with **** girls, then calling police after girl got to room (girl would text that she was in room). just be careful, that's all. hate to ruin a good vacation.

[Key Master]

-"This is a little ridiculous on both sides."

It would appear to me the essencene of this board is the exchange and debate of information regarding ones experiences at specific locations. Indeed, the discussion that is generated allows the reader to make a more informed decsion on where to spend his mongering dollar.

Presented in the correct manner - as all who have disagreed with me on this matter have done - such debates are not "ridiculous," rather, they are the fundamental purpose of this board.

It would appear that you did not understand what I wrote and made some assumptions. I actually agreed with you that you got bad service and it probably had nothing to do with you personally but was more with the provider. I was saying that going back and forth saying this place is horrible based on your one time experience and the people who have been there multiple times defending that that can't be happening and it must have been you and stuff, was ridiculous. Everyone has their own experiences, and I more than welcome it and agree that's what this board is for. What I don't think is fruitful is people trying to say that it can't be and such. No one here can determine such on such an issue.

It's just like when people come on here and say LA Cafe is horrible and there are no good looking women and such based on one visit and we don't know anything else, like time they went and day of the week. It's very possible that LA Cafe will suck at one moment or day depending on time, and then be fruitful as you and others have reported. To me a report is a report, but to try and conclude such never happened is not fruitful.

In the end, I was basically defending you, but apparently you didn't think so.

[Key Master]

Thanks for the heads up guys. May not even make it to LA Cafe if that's the way the neighborhood has changed lately.

Nobody needs that crap anywhere in the world

As usual, I am only spending a day or two in MNL and getting out of there. But if my thoughts of safety in Ermita are at all compromised, I'll just have the steady meet me at the hotel.

To me, it hasn't changed that much. You never know over there. If you are uneasy to walk in that area, just don't book a hotel near that area then. You can just take a taxi back and forth, it's relatively cheap.

[Cunning Stunt]

Thanks for the heads up guys. May not even make it to LA Cafe if that's the way the neighborhood has changed lately.

Nobody needs that crap anywhere in the world

As usual, I am only spending a day or two in MNL and getting out of there. But if my thoughts of safety in Ermita are at all compromised, I'll just have the steady meet me at the hotel.

I wouldn’t get too paranoid about your personal security as it will spoil your vacation and bad things can happen anywhere. Just don’t get drunk, keep vigilant, stay on main streets and carry only enough cash for your daily needs. No credit cards. If any dodgy sorts approach you don’t be afraid to tell them to keep away and make plenty of noise if they invade your body space. These are mainly opportunist thiefs looking for easy targets and if you don’t look easy they will usually back off.

Alternatively you might try adopting a swagger, dress in your best threads and festoon yourself like Fort Knox. Lowlifes will probably assume you are loko-loko and keep well clear. Brilliant plan:D.

[X Man]

I almost always get drunk wehn I go to LA cafe. Just don't get staggering drunk when you are by yourself.

And if you do get staggering drunk when you are by yourself, always wear plaid. It confused the locals...and GH too.

X

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]
Just don’t get drunk, QUOTE]

[Cunning Stunt]

and if you do get staggering drunk when you are by yourself, always wear plaid. it confused the locals...and gh too.


i do hope that when you mention plaid, you are referring to your trusty trews, and that you have not affected to wear a kilt. that really would confuse the locals.

i once had the pleasure of being present when a guy wearing tartan was clever or foolish enough to venture into a nana plaza go-go bar. i think he was on a first time to bangkok stag party visit and thought it would impress the girls. i have seldom seen a guy more embarrassed as he was surrounded by hordes of screaming bargirls all anxious to get their hands up his skirt to see if it was true what is said about what a jock doesn’t wear under his kilt. he was well near raped. lucky man! i’m sure that after he had sunk enough beer to overcome the embarrassment, he had a great time and had his pick of any girl in the bar.

or maybe ended up with a ladyboy:o

[Sxxxx]

hotel security told me of the scam, but drugs were planted on the men outside the hotel, in the street. girls would then notify police which hotel the men went in to, but would only have description, not names. can't remember exact details, but the security boss did say he managed to get rid of all the drugs (marijuana) and no ill harm came to the guests. the other scam was mamasans working with **** girls, then calling police after girl got to room (girl would text that she was in room). just be careful, that's all. hate to ruin a good vacation.so it happened outside a hotel not outside lacafe.

thought , if its happening outside lacafe what hope have we got. not so , outside an ermita hotel. lowers the threat a bit , but thanks for tip off. seems a variation of the street kids who surround you whilst emptying your pockets.

[Warbucks]

Illogic,

I think you've just been lucky. I find it funny (and sort of insulting) with the constant insinuating that I (or anyone else who has been robbed, pickpocketed, etc.) has done something wrong or has somehow been targeted because of what we look like, who we are, what color eyes we have, how old or young we are, etc.

Sure, maybe if you are a 90 pound weakling and old. Or if you are obnoxious or if you are not careful. But I think many times it's just because manila (and particularly the area around la cafe) can be a rather dangerous place.

I work in Oakland. 4 cops were murdered there last night. There can't be worse city in the united states to live. Nor a more dangerous one. People killed nightly. Horrible, corrupt city. But I have worked there for 12 years. Go out for lunch. Walk around downtown. And nothing has ever happenned to me.

Does that mean somehow I have "the look" that prevents me from being robbed, killed, or whateaver? I think not. It's just the luck of the draw.

That doesn't mean Oakland is safe. It may be that I've just been fortunate.

I will tell you one thing that I am positive of. Bangkok is many multiple times safer than manila. And I never felt in a bit of danger in Cambodia or Saigon. But I sure did in that area by la cafe.

That said. I did love la cafe. Haha.

Red I am not an imposing figure. I am not even over 6ft. I do hit the gym every blue moon but that’s about it.

I have taken taxis home late at night, early in the morning. I live far from the club scene so it’s a journey back and forth. Got chased by a pack of wild dogs coming home from EDSA when I first moved out here but that’s about it.

I apologize if I offended anyone. I only asked what makes them mark some guys as a target. I took a guess at that question and one member wanted to have my head put in a Guillotine for it. So I am asking the board.

Like I said I live here and have never witnessed anything like pick pocketing or people being “manhandled” LOL. Luck… After 5 years of visiting and now living here when some guys on their first visit get robbed? Trust me my luck is not that good. :)

[Amavida]

Red I am not an imposing figure. I am not even over 6ft. I do hit the gym every blue moon but that’s about it.

I have taken taxis home late at night, early in the morning. I live far from the club scene so it’s a journey back and forth. Got chased by a pack of wild dogs coming home from EDSA when I first moved out here but that’s about it.

I apologize if I offended anyone. I only asked what makes them mark some guys as a target. I took a guess at that question and one member wanted to have my head put in a Guillotine for it. So I am asking the board.

Like I said I live here and have never witnessed anything like pick pocketing or people being “manhandled” LOL. Luck… After 5 years of visiting and now living here when some guys on their first visit get robbed? Trust me my luck is not that good. :)Been here only a couple of years full time now. Gotta say its no more dangerous than any other big city. Ermita / Malate is a pretty seedy area at night so a little common sense should be used. Situational awareness goes a long way toward personal safety. Walking along the footpath you come across several street people crowding a narrow section what do you do? A) Try to pass between them excusing your self politely or B) Step out on to the roadway well in advance & give them a wide berth?
Correct answer is B. Just observe how the locals instinctively do this.
Walking the streets you are offered a ride by several trike drivers, when you decline they curse you & insult you. Do you A) give them a mouthfull back & get into a verbal altercation or B) Swallow your pride, ignore their taunts & move away quickly but smoothly.
Correct answer B.
You need extra cash from an ATM for that unexpected freeby. Do you A) head to the nearest machine & stick your card in. Or B) look for a macine in an open well lit public area & check no one is loitering/observing?
Correct answer B.

I dont walk about fearful but i do automatically & calmly think about what i am doing.
AV

[Finrod]

Been here only a couple of years full time now. Gotta say its no more dangerous than any other big city. Ermita / Malate is a pretty seedy area at night so a little common sense should be used. Situational awareness goes a long way toward personal safety. Walking along the footpath you come across several street people crowding a narrow section what do you do? A) Try to pass between them excusing your self politely or B) Step out on to the roadway well in advance & give them a wide berth?
Correct answer is B. Just observe how the locals instinctively do this.
Walking the streets you are offered a ride by several trike drivers, when you decline they curse you & insult you. Do you A) give them a mouthfull back & get into a verbal altercation or B) Swallow your pride, ignore their taunts & move away quickly but smoothly.
Correct answer B.
You need extra cash from an ATM for that unexpected freeby. Do you A) head to the nearest machine & stick your card in. Or B) look for a machine in an open well lit public area & check no one is loitering/observing?
Correct answer B.

I dont walk about fearful but i do automatically & calmly think about what i am doing.
AV
Excellent tips. In addition to using your common sense and situational awareness, your context is important as well. That is, how are you showing yourself? Are you drunk? Moping about the sidewalk because the honey you wanted got away? Not good. Walk with purpose and know where you are going. Always look around so you're letting the bad guys know they won't be able to sneak up on you. Also keep your hands in or close to your pockets when moving through crowds. If you have to use a jeepney, try to sit toward the exit and be aware of everyone on board. I'm not built, I'm rather slender, but while I've had to defend myself against pickpockets on rare occasions (no substitute for awareness there), I've never had a real problem, knock on wood, and I've been in some really dodgy areas around the world.

One more tip: when walking on the sidewalk, don't walk next to the buildings, especially if you can't see into the nooks that provide potential hiding places.

[Redfield10]

No sense trying to convince folks that it can happen despite taking all the precautions in the world. It's kind of like some here are saying that guy who was broad-sided by a driver who ran a stop light was at fault (musta had gold chains on in the car or somethin').

And from what I've been able to gather Manila "is" more dangerous than a lot of other big cities. Don't kid yourselves.


Red I am not an imposing figure. I am not even over 6ft. I do hit the gym every blue moon but that’s about it.

I have taken taxis home late at night, early in the morning. I live far from the club scene so it’s a journey back and forth. Got chased by a pack of wild dogs coming home from EDSA when I first moved out here but that’s about it.

I apologize if I offended anyone. I only asked what makes them mark some guys as a target. I took a guess at that question and one member wanted to have my head put in a Guillotine for it. So I am asking the board.

Like I said I live here and have never witnessed anything like pick pocketing or people being “manhandled” LOL. Luck… After 5 years of visiting and now living here when some guys on their first visit get robbed? Trust me my luck is not that good. :)

[Primo Bolan]

Common sense and situational awareness. Amavida is right. Observe how the locals deals with situations.
I will try to have this in mind when Im going back soon.

[Amavida]

no sense trying to convince folks that it can happen despite taking all the precautions in the world. it's kind of like some here are saying that guy who was broad-sided by a driver who ran a stop light was at fault (musta had gold chains on in the car or somethin').

and from what i've been able to gather manila "is" more dangerous than a lot of other big cities. don't kid yourselves.in my home country of australia, a dude got bludgeoned to death by a pack of other dudes in full public view at the checkin counter of the biggest & busiest international airport in that country just a few days ago. this occurred in the middle of a busy week day in day time. there are airport security & federal police stationed there.
in australia people in minor fender benders get knifed to death in broad daylight by antagonists. in australia people get bashed, robbed & even killed in 'home invasions' almost daily. in my home city of brisbane there is a long running police operation trying to catch a [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) who lurks in the city parks.
almost without exception every pinoy/pinay i have met thinks australia is much safer than pi. they are wrong. danger lurks everywhere in every city of every country.
av

[Redfield10]

that's basically my point. i also, however, want newbies to realize that the area around l. a. cafe is, for example, many times more dangerous than walking down sukhumvit in bangkok on average. i'm just not sure that folks who haven't been to the ermita area know that. i know i didn't realize it. i was thinking it was similar to sois 4 to say 11 on sukhumvit. there you may come across a few folks sitting and begging. maybe a couple a block. but it just has a totally different feel to it in addition to being much safer.


in my home country of australia, a dude got bludgeoned to death by a pack of other dudes in full public view at the checkin counter of the biggest & busiest international airport in that country just a few days ago. this occurred in the middle of a busy week day in day time. there are airport security & federal police stationed there.

in australia people in minor fender benders get knifed to death in broad daylight by antagonists. in australia people get bashed, robbed & even killed in 'home invasions' almost daily. in my home city of brisbane there is a long running police operation trying to catch a [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) who lurks in the city parks.

almost without exception every pinoy/pinay i have met thinks australia is much safer than pi. they are wrong. danger lurks everywhere in every city of every country.

av

[CrazyKido]

Well, firstly before I start I just wana thank everyone on ISG who has helped alot with so much information. Was great help when I was in Argentina, Korea, Japan, Thailand and finally Philippines.

Normally I just read and learn, never had the guts to write anything as I didn't think had much to tell, but after Manila experience I thought I would share some experience.

Arrive in Manila late, about 11pm, checked into lotus garden hotel, which is in malate and pretty close to both robinsons mall and la cafe. But during the night did run into few beggers stopping me with their children and asking for some money.

Since I was close to la cafe, I went their straight away. Place was packed and found girls ranging from 4 to 9 on my scales, even though 9's were bit hard to find. Me being an korean born and only being in early 20's, straight away I did get few girls coming onto me and asking the usual questions.

But one caught my eye, petite and long hair and chatted and asked how much, she said 2500 for short time and I laughed and said how about 2000 long time. Decided with that price and went back to hotel. Cutting story short, she was mechanical but did give great BJ with her pierced tongue and after one pop kept texting with her phone and I kicked her out with 2000 st. I know its not right to do that, but I'm pretty soft and felt with extra 500 it will make her happy.

Next day did the mall of asia and robinsons and back to la cafe about 3pm. Stayed there for a bit and found this girl called monica, keeping it short, she wasnt too bad and managed about 2 pops in 5 hours, as there were not that much chemistry for her to stay the night I said you look tired you should go home and paid her 2000. Next day went to la again about 7pm and picked up C and S and did them both for 2000 each LT. However they did take me to an interesting KTV, as I was new to going to KTV it was exciting. Place was called Porches on 2nd floor 1015-1023 Maria Orosa St ermita, walked up with my two girls to find lots of girls sitting down (I have to admit they looked pretty stunning). Got the room for 3000 which includes a girl and ordering quite a bit of food and drinks. And for extra girls I think it was 500. Don't know if you can take them out, but had a blast with three girl inside and got some dfk with the KTV working girl and groping. I don't know if this is allowed but I was enjoying the company of three girls singing and dirty dancing front of me while one of them would all over me.

Last night in manila went back to la cafe and picked this gorgeous 21 year old who ended up staying with me for about 4 days in subic and my last few hours in manila. Great girl because after one night of paying money as negotiated didn't ask for a cent till I gave her some before I left (which she was surprised about). One thing I love about freelancers is once there is some kind of chemistry, everything just gets much more enjoyable.

Subic bay briefly, stayed at Blue rock cafe, loved that resort, australian owned and lots of english speaking foreigners come there for the girls at the floating bar at blue rock and the diving they provide.

Was with my girl so don't know what they costed but know that some were pretty cute.

Anyway thats my trip to phillipines, I know I should have done more than la cafe but I just made myself comfortable with the place. Going back again in June and will sure to make it to mataki and other places in manila.

Lastly, while I was getting close with 21 year old, she did tell me that even though the upstairs girls are pretty much after japanese or koreans as they pay more, the upstairs girl do stay downstairs for a bit before the upstairs opens up. I don't know exactly when they open but I'm sure some mongers will be able to get upstairs girls for reasonable price when they are down.

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[X Man]

That's interesting! After reading earlier posts, I thought, and once implied, that you lived IN THE PHILIPPINES. You said I was mistaken.

X

Or maybe I've misinterpreted "here".


Been here only a couple of years full time now. AV

[Amavida]

That's interesting! After reading earlier posts, I thought, and once implied, that you lived IN THE PHILIPPINES. You said I was mistaken.

X

Or maybe I've misinterpreted "here"."Here" as in PI. Clear now X?

[Robbaf]

Normally I just read and learn, never had the guts to write anything as I didn't think had much to tell, but after Manila experience I thought I would share some experience.
Good first report, sounds like you had fun!

Robb

[Redfield10]

All the girls I got at LA Cafe were upstairs girls. If you are decent looking, nice, and there's chemistry, there's no problem upstairs and I'm as white as they come.

Also, I just gave them the going rate. Laid it on the bed. Nothing ever mentioned.


Well, firstly before I start I just wana thank everyone on ISG who has helped alot with so much information. Was great help when I was in Argentina, Korea, Japan, Thailand and finally Philippines.

Normally I just read and learn, never had the guts to write anything as I didn't think had much to tell, but after Manila experience I thought I would share some experience.

Arrive in Manila late, about 11pm, checked into lotus garden hotel, which is in malate and pretty close to both robinsons mall and la cafe. But during the night did run into few beggers stopping me with their children and asking for some money.

Since I was close to la cafe, I went their straight away. Place was packed and found girls ranging from 4 to 9 on my scales, even though 9's were bit hard to find. Me being an korean born and only being in early 20's, straight away I did get few girls coming onto me and asking the usual questions.

But one caught my eye, petite and long hair and chatted and asked how much, she said 2500 for short time and I laughed and said how about 2000 long time. Decided with that price and went back to hotel. Cutting story short, she was mechanical but did give great BJ with her pierced tongue and after one pop kept texting with her phone and I kicked her out with 2000 st. I know its not right to do that, but I'm pretty soft and felt with extra 500 it will make her happy.

Next day did the mall of asia and robinsons and back to la cafe about 3pm. Stayed there for a bit and found this girl called monica, keeping it short, she wasnt too bad and managed about 2 pops in 5 hours, as there were not that much chemistry for her to stay the night I said you look tired you should go home and paid her 2000. Next day went to la again about 7pm and picked up C and S and did them both for 2000 each LT. However they did take me to an interesting KTV, as I was new to going to KTV it was exciting. Place was called Porches on 2nd floor 1015-1023 Maria Orosa St ermita, walked up with my two girls to find lots of girls sitting down (I have to admit they looked pretty stunning). Got the room for 3000 which includes a girl and ordering quite a bit of food and drinks. And for extra girls I think it was 500. Don't know if you can take them out, but had a blast with three girl inside and got some dfk with the KTV working girl and groping. I don't know if this is allowed but I was enjoying the company of three girls singing and dirty dancing front of me while one of them would all over me.

Last night in manila went back to la cafe and picked this gorgeous 21 year old who ended up staying with me for about 4 days in subic and my last few hours in manila. Great girl because after one night of paying money as negotiated didn't ask for a cent till I gave her some before I left (which she was surprised about). One thing I love about freelancers is once there is some kind of chemistry, everything just gets much more enjoyable.

Subic bay briefly, stayed at Blue rock cafe, loved that resort, australian owned and lots of english speaking foreigners come there for the girls at the floating bar at blue rock and the diving they provide.

Was with my girl so don't know what they costed but know that some were pretty cute.

Anyway thats my trip to phillipines, I know I should have done more than la cafe but I just made myself comfortable with the place. Going back again in June and will sure to make it to mataki and other places in manila.

Lastly, while I was getting close with 21 year old, she did tell me that even though the upstairs girls are pretty much after japanese or koreans as they pay more, the upstairs girl do stay downstairs for a bit before the upstairs opens up. I don't know exactly when they open but I'm sure some mongers will be able to get upstairs girls for reasonable price when they are down.

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[X Man]

oh, sorry for assuming you did not live in the philippines....after youonce scolded me for assuming you did live in the philippines. things change...congrats. you lucky devil.

on another topic, can you show us those photos from aff which you suggested are the same as those ap posted. he seemed to be a bit peeved about people suggesting that his photos were posted at aff before he took the photos.

and thanks for posting some of your recent pictures. i enjoyed them.

if you find the time, give us a tagaytay field report. it really is a beautiful place. i found the bus ride to be miserable, though.

x man (currently in japan)



"here" as in pi. clear now x?

[X Man]

This is kind of confusing. The upstairs area (with live band) was always a free for all, often with some regular ladies mixed with the pros. It's the downstairs back room which caters to E.Asia.

What was the going rate?

X


All the girls I got at LA Cafe were upstairs girls. If you are decent looking, nice, and there's chemistry, there's no problem upstairs and I'm as white as they come.

Also, I just gave them the going rate. Laid it on the bed. Nothing ever mentioned.

[Redfield10]

The upstairs costs a little to enter and it seemed to me that they were virtually ALL P4P girls....albeit very picky. But I had ton hit on me and found very cute ones to take back. Gave 'them between 1500 and 2000 pesos..depending. I probably threw in another 300 for cab if I liked 'them.

I only go with girls I have a great vibe with and it was easy for me to find that upstairs...


This is kind of confusing. The upstairs area (with live band) was always a free for all, often with some regular ladies mixed with the pros. It's the downstairs back room which caters to E.Asia.

What was the going rate?

X

[Puerto La Cruz]

Last time I was upstairs there, it was a 200php charge to enter. I don't know if that continues or is gone. One little girl was grabbing on me hoping I would pay hers. Didn't happen. Will hopefully be there in about two weeks and I wil give field report.

[Redfield10]

Yeah. I was thinking 150 pesos. So something like that. Upstairs just gives you something else to do, too. And some of the bands are pretty good. Freddie Aguilar was there one night I was there.

And the girls are a step up. Some are downstairs first but the plainer ones from downstairs don't seem to make it upstairs.


Last time I was upstairs there, it was a 200php charge to enter. I don't know if that continues or is gone. One little girl was grabbing on me hoping I would pay hers. Didn't happen. Will hopefully be there in about two weeks and I wil give field report.

[GoodEnough]

The upstairs costs a little to enter and it seemed to me that they were virtually ALL P4P girls....albeit very picky. But I had ton hit on me and found very cute ones to take back. Gave 'them between 1500 and 2000 pesos..depending. I probably threw in another 300 for cab if I liked 'them.

I only go with girls I have a great vibe with and it was easy for me to find that upstairs...
I think the upstairs costs Php100 on week days and 200 on the week ends. The room on the right hand side from the stairs seems to cater more to Koreans and I can understand why given the amounts of money they spend drinking. The other room is more mixed, with girls who have not necessarily targeted Korean guys.

I always preferred the upstairs simply because it was less crowded than the hordes of humanity that seems to congregate downstairs.

GE

[Cunning Stunt]

..often with some regular ladies mixed with the pros... X

Really, X. Must admit that, apart from the waitresses and female band members (and the occasional tourist), I have never met any regular ladies (non-p4p) in LA Cafe, either upstairs or downstairs. I would think that the reputation of the place would put off normal girls who would be worried that they might be mistaken for a 'pok pok'.

[Redfield10]

Agree. There aren't any regular ladies in L. A. Cafe. Ok, very few, if any at most times.

I like the upstiars. Less crowed and I've never had a bit of problem finding really cute girls there. Usually it's fighting them off to find the one I really want. True, the ones upstairs have to walk through the first floor. But it generally eliminates the plain Janes that are on the first floor and either can't afford to come upstairs or can't get anyone to pay for upstairs for them.

Plus, last time I was in there they had Freddie Agular playing upstairs. So they do have some good bands there sometimes and worth it just to chill, regardless of the talent. (which is always there).


Really, X. Must admit that, apart from the waitresses and female band members (and the occasional tourist), I have never met any regular ladies (non-p4p) in LA Cafe, either upstairs or downstairs. I would think that the reputation of the place would put off normal girls who would be worried that they might be mistaken for a 'pok pok'.

[X Man]

I suspect your are absolutely correct.

It's just that I did meet a travel agent on the 2nd floor, and despite me getting down on my knees and begging, she refused me. I was off to AC the next day, but I told her that I went to "the beach" at Subic.

I kept texting her "i miss you" and a few days later when I got back to Manila my bola payed off very well. Not only did I get the golden freebie, I also got a steep discount on my room (she booked it).

Sorry if my post was misleading. She was non p4p, but one is a small sample.

Oh, wasn't it you who recently posted about LA cafe newby? I think we could argue that she is non p4p -- at least until about five minutes before you met her.

X


Really, X. Must admit that, apart from the waitresses and female band members (and the occasional tourist), I have never met any regular ladies (non-p4p) in LA Cafe, either upstairs or downstairs. I would think that the reputation of the place would put off normal girls who would be worried that they might be mistaken for a 'pok pok'.

[Surfer]

I've seen the occasional group of civilian babae in LA cafe on weekend nights when there is a good band upstairs. They are like spectators watching the freak show more than active participants (although they WILL dance as a group up by the stage at times). You also see LA Cafe regulars introducing new girls to the scene who are not YET "hookers". THIS is how you grab a diamond in the rough but you must pounce without delay as the age of innocence is fleeting around LA Cafe. Getting intros to a new girl through an established vet whom you have treated well in the past is an invaluable entre.

I've also seen PLENTY of white women in there who would not view themselves as hookers either. So while I concur that the vast majority of females inside are on the game, to jump all over X merely because he said he got blown off by a non pro in there was was a bit harsh. Then again, she may have been a pro but just was not into X that night (even pros can and do reject some offers).

Different people have different experiences, and the wisdom of age has taught me to be less hasty in dismissing observations or opinions that differ from my own.

[Castlerae]

I've been reading the posts and comments here for a while, taking in what advice and observations I can. I've avoided posting as I haven't been to the Philippines, but I've decided I need to make this post.

You see, I've been thinking about going on a trip to enjoy one of the different Happy Hunting Grounds, and I can't decide which one. This (if it happens, and there are a few uncertainties yet in play) would happen sometime around the end of the year. I'd thought of checking out the FKK scene in Germany, but going in the winter? So, Manila hold my interest, as I've long been intrigued by the LBFM legend, and the prices seem reasonable. At the same time, Bangkok has much to recommend it too, and the prices are roughly equal. Shanghi, while it's prices seem a bit higher, has many attractions (such as the infamous red rope massage). Of the three, Shanghi is cheapest to get to, while Manila is the most expensive. So, I'll ask a question that caused me to name this post:

Can any of the "regulars" tell me why I should go to Manila?

I'm open to suggestions, guys, so make your case and I'll listen to any arguements.

[Warbucks]

I've been reading the posts and comments here for a while, taking in what advice and observations I can. I've avoided posting as I haven't been to the Philippines, but I've decided I need to make this post.

You see, I've been thinking about going on a trip to enjoy one of the different Happy Hunting Grounds, and I can't decide which one. This (if it happens, and there are a few uncertainties yet in play) would happen sometime around the end of the year. I'd thought of checking out the FKK scene in Germany, but going in the winter? So, Manila hold my interest, as I've long been intrigued by the LBFM legend, and the prices seem reasonable. At the same time, Bangkok has much to recommend it too, and the prices are roughly equal. Shanghi, while it's prices seem a bit higher, has many attractions (such as the infamous red rope massage). Of the three, Shanghi is cheapest to get to, while Manila is the most expensive. So, I'll ask a question that caused me to name this post:

Can any of the "regulars" tell me why I should go to Manila?

I'm open to suggestions, guys, so make your case and I'll listen to any arguements.

Go to Thailand if you just looking for a place to fuck prostitutes….It is safer and the prices are reasonable girls and hotel wise. The ladies are more “worldly” and compliant sexually.

[Denom]

Very difficult to find decent girls in LA cafe anymore. Loads of girls but most if not all are average to ugly. I think one of the reasons is that they just stop the beautiful girls at the door for fear of them being too young so what is left is mostly junk, with the occasional exception. I have a friend, 25 yo, a pure beauty and she is just not allowed in LA cafe because she supposedly looks too young (which is not even true). The limit to enter now is 20, not 18 anymore, and even if you have a birth certificate they will assert that it's fake and not let you in. The quality of the girls compared to a few years ago has dramatically decreased. Also the food in choice and quality has gotten much worst too while the prices have remained high, and you are constantly bothered by sellers inside LA Cafe who try to push over-priced and old chips to you. LA Cafe is definitely victim of its success. I hardly ever bother going there any more and have better luck just going out to regular Malate outlets and meet regular girls, or just go straight to gogo bars. The Management in LA Cafe needs a good kick in the but but they don't bother cause it's still going very strong.

[Cunning Stunt]

Can any of the "regulars" tell me why I should go to Manila?

I'm open to suggestions, guys, so make your case and I'll listen to any arguements.

Noticed that you posted on the Thai forum and, presumably,the China forum as well. Best to cover the angles but you will find that most guys have a preference and tends to stick to that countries board and will support their home teams.

Depends what turns your crank. Do you, as Illogic succinctly puts it, like to 'fuck prostitutes', or are you looking more for a more gf experience? This will determine where best you might best head for your vacation. Furthermore are you a meat and 2 veg kind of person or are you looking for something more exotic?

[Denom]

Note - I am referring to the downstairs girls in my previous post. I haven't been upstairs since they charged customers too, not just the girls, but I really doubt the quality would be that much better. The point is, you can still find the occasional jewel, especially if she is very new in LA, but you'll have to wade through so many junk I think it's hardly worth it anymore.

[Divino]

The fact that the "dude" and "other dudes" mentioned by AV are bikies of opposing gangs seems to have been ignored by AV. This information was clearly reported in the news at the time.

As a follow up, an attempt to kill the brother (a bikie) of the deceased "dude" was made last night at his home. The Premier of the State is now considering legislation to outlaw bikie gangs.

The suggestion that one needs to take reasonable care in any city is not in question and is self-evident. But, there is no need to sensationalize and distort events as if they involved some innocent, unrelated bystander or were somehow normal events in Australia.

As an Aussie I do object; it reflects poorly on AV's reporting standards for any other representations he makes in these fora.

Originally Posted by Amavida

In my home country of Australia, a dude got bludgeoned to death by a pack of other dudes in full public view at the checking counter of the biggest & busiest international airport in that country just a few days ago. This occurred in the middle of a busy week day in day time. There are airport security & federal police stationed there. etc.

[Amavida]

The fact that the "dude" and "other dudes" mentioned by AV are bikies of opposing gangs seems to have been ignored by AV. This information was clearly reported in the news at the time.

The suggestion that one needs to take reasonable care in any city is not in question and is self-evident. But, there is no need to sensationalize and distort events as if they involved some innocent, unrelated bystander or were somehow normal events in Australia.

As an Aussie I do object; it reflects poorly on AV's reporting standards for any other representations he makes in these fora.

Originally Posted by Amavida

In my home country of Australia, a dude got bludgeoned to death by a pack of other dudes in full public view at the checking counter of the biggest & busiest international airport in that country just a few days ago. This occurred in the middle of a busy week day in day time. There are airport security & federal police stationed there. etc.This is soooo obviously X Man posting under a newly created account...
I put X man on my ignore list so he creates a new account to continue having a go at me. Oh well off to the ignore list it goes.
How pathetic.

[X Man]

Pathetic? You've posted three times into my pm box THIS WEEK, so please put a bit more effort into ignoring me.

I have only one account at ISG. I have never had more than one account. Also, I've never been to Australia.

X Man


This is soooo obviously X Man posting under a newly created account...
I put X man on my ignore list so he creates a new account to continue having a go at me. Oh well off to the ignore list it goes.
How pathetic.

[Amavida]

Very difficult to find decent girls in LA cafe anymore. Loads of girls but most if not all are average to ugly. I think one of the reasons is that they just stop the beautiful girls at the door for fear of them being too young so what is left is mostly junk, with the occasional exception. I have a friend, 25 yo, a pure beauty and she is just not allowed in LA cafe because she supposedly looks too young (which is not even true). The limit to enter now is 20, not 18 anymore, and even if you have a birth certificate they will I hardly ever bother going there any more and have better luck just going out to regular Malate outlets and meet regular girls, or just go straight to gogo bars. The Management in LA Cafe needs a good kick in the but but they don't bother cause it's still going very strong.Look i agree with 100% but it obviously siuts a certain type of guy. I found the girls not that great looking or good personality wise. Just cold commercial ST sex. Prices pretty outrageous also.
AV

[Arthur66]

Have been to M last week, for the first time. I was at an hotel 30 minutes away from the LA Cafe.

1. The evening I arrived (Sun) I was hungry for love, but there was nothing in sight from the hotel. It was also late. Hotel was deserted. Asked friendly doorman if anything at walking distance for a beer and some music, he directs me at a karaoke bar, 5 mins walking away. Great idea. Place is called club 77 or alike. It was around 12:00, full of girls, music going, but nobody singing. VERY basic place, no frills whatsoever, a bit sordid as well. Sit at bar, look around. If that was not a shag joint I was a Chinese mandarin. Indeed. In a few seconds the waitress arrives, serves me a local beer, investigates my needs.company, I say. Say Hello, to a couple of bystanders, no much success. Look at one girl, not the youngest, almost asleep. Nice face, tight body, age. Wild guess, 25. Who knows. She wakes up and approaches. Turns out she is one the 'managers', asks if I want BIB (no takeaway), 1500 Pesos/hour. I say ok after having seen the room, a couch and a table. VERY basic. She asks who I want, my choice. I say 'you'.

Cut a long story short, we shagged 2 hours on an old couch in a small room, two pops, and it was a long time ago last time I felt that horny. The lady is a tiger, very sweet, full GFE, a dream. Damage 3000 pesos and 1000 tip. She was worth it all.

2. Second evening, with friend, dancing clubs (5-6 under one roof, don't know co-ordinates). Approached several times for drinks, annoying. Girls were average, 1500 barfine and 2500-3000 short stay. Friend was not in the mood, didn't want to leave him alone, stayed there for a while and left, without scoring. Very commercial, very pushy.

3. Third evening LA cafe, same friend. Place was packed (Tue evening), lots of music, full of girls. Quality was average to low, with a few good looking ones. Picked up my lady, friend pick another. Negotiated 2000 long stay, him 2500 same time. At hotel, shagged her for 2 good hours, but at the end she ballooned inside. Turns out to be single mother (vast majority are), and her inner beauty did not keep tight long enough. BBBJ (very poor) and uncovered sex in all positions. She was soaked and came (I believe, who knows.) at least three times. My friend reports the day after similar experience, also her partner ballooned. And flubby frontside, also single mother.

4. Wed, went back to karaoke, with friend. Choosen same girl, other 2 hours. Every hour of BIB you get 4 beers, so time is enjoyable. Couch is not large enough to manouvre that much, but for me and local girls (both small) large enough. Friend reported better experience than LA cafe.

5. Thu, friend leaves in the afternoon, I go to La Cafe, alone. Tried to walk about the area, but have been followed by a very insisting half-toothless, pony-tailed hair zombie, offering to go somewhere else, had difficulties to shoo him away. SW offers blowjob from the other side of the street. Other cafe's, karaoke. Go back to LA. Tried to pick up very nice girl, dressed in red, bombastic titties. No english, sorry. Darn! Pick up another one, small but titted, 2000 long stay. Hard to find cab available to go to hotel on the meter (must take care here), finally found one, got rid of the zombie (him again), offering viagra, condoms, and lastly wanted to be tipped for having found the cab (which I found). Sent him to hell from the bottom of my hart, and left.

Girl very good looking. Shitty personality, annoying. Shagged her briefly at hotel, tight pussy, nice rack, but no fun. She leaves early in the morning, after complaining that according to her I promised to pay for taxi, gave her 100 and sent off. What a *****! Name Syrene, reported 19 y/o, dancer (could be), but a real pain. Second low score for LA Cafe. Not good.

6. Fri, back to karaoke. Wanted to try another girl, ask for 'top BBBJWCIM', got a relatively tall girl. Got a different room, couch smaller. BBBJ not convincing, shagged her bareback (she has no rubbers, me neither. Hell). Soaked as well. 'can I come inside? ', and she goes 'yes'. I jumped back, and came on her belly. Got a lot to think about that nite. Previous partner very unhappy, but she still smiles to me when I leave. That's class.

7. Sat, last nite. Guess what, karaoke again. Go back to my goddess of love, 1 hour only. Too tired (and dried up) to cum, but manage to have a great time. I licked her for 30 minutes straight, she squirted three times (wow, that was cool), more GFE. Told her I was gone the day after. Goodbye, Tess.

My take overall:

Manila is a great place, now 2-3 on my ranking list. LA cafe is out, too messy. Dancing clubs too, I don't like to be pushed into drinking (don't like to be pushed into anything, actually). Sex is cheap, quality can be disappointing. Many girls are young mothers, oral is overall poor (Tess was better but not good enough), anal is hard to find. Touristic areas are badly populated with a mix of zombies, SWs. Felt unsafe, or at least unconfortable. Bareback is commonplace, girls there have a plan in life. Get babies, does not matter how and who is the father. LA Cafe is full of 'brokenharted ladies'. With kids in some remote location, left to the care of grandma. Ant. Sister, whatever. AIDS/HIV is (reportedly) very rare there, but. It is still a risk, toghether with a lot of other nasty souvenirs. Many girls do not have condoms with them, so you have better to be prepared. In general, they truly enjoy sex. The dividing line between WG and lover/girlfriend is very thin. Be careful. It is easy to fall in love with one of these ladies, the GFE they provide is tracerously close to the point of no return.

Tess got to me, real close. I won't mention all the stories she told me, chat is cheap. But she is a sweet lady. If you happen to meet her, treat her well. Manila girls are special. Even if single mothers, ballooned, or with a poor BJ skillset. They are hot, sweet, and will GFE you till you drop. They are also very innocent, in many respects. Little education, they do speak english (basic), are gentle and make you feel well. I will miss them.

Enjoy,

Arthur

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[Castlerae]

Gaumacher and Illogic,

Actually, I like both experiences, it depends on how I feel and the vibe I get of the woman. I've had a chance, here in the states, to have sex with both Chinese and Thai providers. The Thai woman was by far the best looking, and extremely willing to please (and be pleased too). On the other hand, one of the Chinese ladies ended up letting me go 'over the alloted time' by a very considerable degree (like twice as long! ), was quite happy to snuggle up between bouts, and willing to try/do almost everything (never asked for anal, but she seemed to be in the mood for just about anything else, so.). I write the latter off to a late start time and the fact that the weather that night was pretty bad (she told me at one point that she didn't have any more customers coming at all that night). But, when it comes down to it, aren't we all pretty much about having as much sex as we can, with as many woman as we can, or have I gotten the wrong impression of this place? (no, I don't think I have) so, yes, I'd like to go out, hit on some short time during the day (or a nice FS 'massage'), then hit the clubs/bars after a bit of a rest to find some woman willing to come to my place for the night. So, gam, do you agree with illogic's assessment, that Bangkok would be the better destination, or does Manila have something to offer after all?

(and, yes, I did post ot the mentioned thread. You don't ask no questions, you don't learn nothing, do you?)

[Rubio Tonto]

But what do you mean by "ballooned?" I haven't heard that term before.

[Cunning Stunt]

So, gam, do you agree with illogic's assessment, that Bangkok would be the better destination, or does Manila have something to offer after all? Hi Castlerae,

I would say Bangkok would be a surer bet.

Would very broadly sum it up as follows:

1. If you want no-holes barred raunchy sex with beautiful, made-for-sex bombs, go to Thailand and try something like Eden or Tulips in Bangkok. You have the dosh, you can get anything your heart desires in LOS although professionalism is the key and a good GFE is harder to find than it used to be.

2. If you are looking for generally good experiences with unusual touches thrown in (fire and ice, red rope etc) try China. On a recent trip, I was astonished at the overall looks and quality of the service providers and you generally get what is printed on the label, but English is non existent which, unless you speak mandarin, does tend to detract from the experience.

3. If you like the GFE experience (but raunchy sex is available as well) with English speaking girls with the possibility of some enthusiastic amateur action thrown in, come to The Philippines and try AC or Manila or travel a bit further afield to Cebu or Davao. It’s a matter of opinion but I do not think Filipinas are quite as beautiful as Chinese or Thai girls but they more than make up for it in other ways.

For non-mongering pursuits, food etc, I would say Thailand pips China by a nose with The Philippines a distant third.

I’m sure that, whichever of the 3 you decide upon, you will have a great time. If you have the time, energy and money, why not try all 3. With budget airline nearly giving away air tickets, it is not as expensive as you might think.

Have a look at my recent post at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=862678&postcount=89 for my personal subjective assessment of nooky in 5 Asian countries:D.

[Castlerae]

Gamahucher,

(and I'm sorry for mucking up the spelling the last time, btw)

Well, money is one of the questions. Not being privately wealthy, I was thinking of this as a sort of once-in-a-lifetime treat for myself, which is why I'm trying to get advice before I dive in head first. I know a bit of Mandarin, but only enough to be sure I can say Hello, and thank you, two things I always thought you should say to a woman no matter what the reason might be you're seeing her. Thai. I know nothing in, Tagalog equally remote, so someplace where I stand half a chance of getting some English is going to be helpful (or I could try signing/miming. No, looking like a horny Marcel Marcoe doesn't sound like a good start, does it? ). Have a month or three before I'm sure everything's going to be in place so I can make the trip, so I have time to keep researching. Thanks for the input, I know you seem to be one of the aces here, so thanks for the time/effort.

[Eaglestar]

This gal sent me a message on Tagged but she said she is in Manila and I am in Shanghai. If it is a scam it is a damn good one. Take a look at the pic from her profile Tagged. Any of you guys in Manila can do what ever want but if you do her for God's sake tell us all about it.

Her handle on Tagged is Nancy K.

ES

[Warbucks]

Gaumacher and Illogic,

Actually, I like both experiences, it depends on how I feel and the vibe I get of the woman. ]place for the night. So, gam, do you agree with illogic's assessment, that Bangkok would be the better destination, or does Manila have something to offer after all?

(and, yes, I did post ot the mentioned thread. You don't ask no questions, you don't learn nothing, do you?)

Where do I start? I guess at the beginning.

Bangkok:

Proper city. Lot of shit to do. First class malls with first class boutiques. History, temples and other old shit. Pattaya the sex addicts Paradise is two hours away by taxi. Should cost no more than 2000 Baht for the trip.

Manila:

If you ever been to the “hood “or “Ghetto” in America then imagine if it was transformed into an entire city. That’s Manila. Squatter areas, shanty towns all around, unsavory characters. Grime on buildings, Mad Max drivers and traffic jams you fucking name it. Makati what I have nicknamed the Beverley Hills of Manila is the only thing worth looking at. Angeles city the little Pattaya is two hours away.

Safety:

I wear my jewelry in Bangkok. I don’t in Manila. Take from that what you want. I have never had a problem in either country in terms of pick pockets and strong arm robbery. I do feel more “relaxed” in Bangkok then Manila.

Lodging:

I usually stay at the President Solitaire- Platinum suite when I am in Bangkok. Will set you back about $150 nightly. For this amount you get a gigantic hotel room with a Jacuzzi and the whole nine. In Manila at most of the 5 star hotels this money will you get you a fucking basic room. I have stayed at the Shangri –La and Renaissance before I bought my crib here in Manila.

Why did I mention this? To point out Manila is overpriced in terms of lodging the quality leaves a lot to be desired in most places I have stayed at.

The Clubs: Go Gos

Nudity in Bangkok. I have never seen nudity in Manila. Prices… hard to say. I don’t really be checking all that much on prices. I just go with the flow unless my fleece meter goes off (Burgos in Manila). Any place a taxi driver offers in Bangkok. LOL. Lot short time rooms located inside the bars in Bangkok.

The Sex Workers:

I have had some bar girls in both countries act indifferent. I have had some in both countries that didn’t want to leave my side. For the most part Thai girls have offered the greatest “fuck for the buck.” Anal, two-somes three-somes you fucking name it they game. They come to the room and know what’s up no playing around no bullshit.

GFE:

You coming over here to exercise your civil right to have as much pussy as possible or to snuggle and cuddle with prostitutes? When I was just starting out mongering I was delusional I use to try to treat the girls like a girlfriend but I realized this is madness.

I don’t care if she is not sweet as long as she blows me and fucks me like she is supposed to everyone leaves happy.

I had a Romanian in Dubai back 06’ who instantly dropped to her knees once we entered the short time room and right away sucked and fucked both of us into submission and after that got her shit on and left. There was no bullshit no talking but she did her job well.You will find more of this in Thailand.

Shit man depending on how deep your pockets or time why don’t you hit both…. Or two of your destinations?

Take It Sleazy.

[Mackin]

what hotel did you stay at in manila?

[Blastoff]

This gal sent me a message on Tagged but she said she is in Manila and I am in Shanghai. If it is a scam it is a damn good one. Take a look at the pic from her profile Tagged. Any of you guys in Manila can do what ever want but if you do her for God's sake tell us all about it.

Her handle on Tagged is Nancy K.

ES

At a guess I would say it's a scam as the girl is 100% Afro/American and the furniture and carpets are not of Philippine stye. The quality of the pic also suspect as it is taken on a "hi res" cam may be 10 Mega Pixel plus which is not used by regular girls in the PI’s so all in all I say nope, she is not in Manila. Let me know if I am wrong.

Cheers

Blastoff

[Denom]

At a guess I would say it's a scam as the girl is 100% Afro/American and the furniture and carpets are not of Philippine stye. The quality of the pic also suspect as it is taken on a "hi res" cam may be 10 Mega Pixel plus which is not used by regular girls in the PI’s so all in all I say nope, she is not in Manila. Let me know if I am wrong.

I would agree. She does not look like a Filipina and pic is hi res which is atypical as well. Surrounding room if in Manila would be sort of a five stars hotel too or more likely just not in the Philippines.

[Cunning Stunt]

Is it the end for LA Café? Article extracted from yesterdays Philstar online.

New modernization plans for the Ermita area are unveiled
filed by Abrilla Tanga on 31-03-09

The office of Major Alfredo Lim today announced a program of gentrification and improvement which will take place in the Del Pilar/Mabini area of Ermita, starting shortly. This would make the area much more attractive and accessible to both tourists and well heeled Filipinos alike and involve converting the largely run down area into a more upmarket district of boutique hotels, shops, restaurants and bars. The government has earmarked the sum of 1 billion pesos from the current fiscal budget for this endeavor.

Congressman Sonny Binibrocha said ‘these plans have been on the drawing board for some time and have now received the go ahead. We hope to start demolishing some unoccupied buildings very shortly'. Others such as the infamous LA Café and Amazonia night spots have been issued their notices of termination of tenancy and will be closing in the near future. It is an exciting time for everyone in the present mayoral administration’.

Ms Bimby Pakshet, a spokewoman for the LA Café confirmed ‘Yes, we will be closing our doors for the last time on Sunday week. It a real shame as it would have been our tenth anniversary in August. There are no plans to open up elsewhere. Everyone here is very sad’.

LA Café and Amazonia are well known within the expatriate community as a boy meet girl hangout. LA Café, in particular is known for its live music. Well known acts such as Freddie Aguilar and Aegis have appeared there. Local sporting celebrities such as Manny Paquiao and ‘Django’ Bustamante are frequent visitors.

[Amavida]

This gal sent me a message on Tagged but she said she is in Manila and I am in Shanghai. If it is a scam it is a damn good one. Take a look at the pic from her profile Tagged. Any of you guys in Manila can do what ever want but if you do her for God's sake tell us all about it.

Her handle on Tagged is Nancy K.

ESWish it true ES but alas tis naught what ye seek.
Its just commercial porn pic like these are.. see attachment
AV

[Amavida]

Is it the end for LA Café? Article extracted from yesterdays Philstar online.

New modernization plans for the Ermita area are unveiled
filed by Abrilla Tanga on 31-03-09

We hope to start demolishing some unoccupied buildings very shortly'. Others such as the infamous LA Café and Amazonia night spots have been issued their notices of termination of tenancy and will be closing in the near future.

Ms Bimby Pakshet, a spokewoman for the LA Café confirmed ‘Yes, we will be closing our doors for the last time on Sunday week. It a real shame as it would have been our tenth anniversary in August. There are no plans to open up elsewhere. Everyone here is very sad’.
Its not my favourite place but its sad to hear one less venue available to us. No doubt another venue will rise up in its place.

Actually the area has been crying out for urban renewal for ages. The boulevard is quite nice area at night again at the moment, its great for the city to redevelop this slum behind the seafront. The same thing was done down in Dipolog recently with a big improvement to that city's amenity.

I cant believe the owners of LA Cafe were not making shed loads of money. Im sure the 'Brand' will not disappear.
AV

[Denom]

Lim is the guy who closed down the bars in Ermita back when it was booming in the 1990's (and thereby set the Philippines backwards compared to Thailand) and recently also closed the water front Baywalk restaurants when it was a treasure trove of money for locals and a high feature tourist attraction. The guy has done so much wrong and harm his karma will be as bad as that of GW Bush. No wonder he is targeting specifically LA Cafe and Amazonia. He is not doing it because the buildings are old, he is doing it because he is dedicated to close down any venue where people can have fun.

As I wrote down recently, LA Cafe was only the shadow of what it was so it does not make me that sad about it being closed but still... hopefully this will be an opportunity for something better to open up somewhere else.

[Castlerae]

Illogic,

For some reason, I'd expected folks who are from/hang out a lot in a particular area would be interested in others sharing the sexual joys of their fair cities. Which makes the response of the Manila crowd so odd: everyone says "Go to Bangkok! " guess I should adjust my expectations a bit.

As for the rest, well, I hear what you're saying but on the flip side, there is something to be said for that extra bit of time cuddlnig/snuggling. Case in point: the Thai provider I saw here wasnt the original woman I'd expected to meet, that one was busy with a client and I didn't feel like setting around for the better part of an hour waiting for her to service him, so I took the "other" girl. She was fairly young, extremely attractive, both face and body, and once we got down to business, an excellent performer. She was also in a hurry for me to get done, which made the whole thing feel like I was running a race, not having sex. On the other hand, the Chinese woman I mentioned in my post to Gama wasn't quite that young, she had a couple extra pounds (not enough to be called "fat" in any way, though) and she could ahve used a shot of mouthwash. Once we got going, she took her time, made it clear that she wanted me to 'enjoy the ride', and I found out (with a bit of experimenting) what got her going. She got off, I got off, we had a bit of time before the session was supposed to be over, so I laid down with her and we talked (she was originally from Hong Kong so had good English skills). She didn't act like she was in a hurry for me to get gone, so after a bit I asked her if she wanted to go again. She was game and we went into a session that was even better than the first one. After we got done, she took what she'd have gotten for the regular session, thanked me (she'd managed to get off a couple of times during round #2 she told me) and gave me a kiss to boot. So, a bit of extra attention can pay off, and I'm not against it. After all, if all I wanted to do was get my rocks off, I could save the cash and "go manual", but where'd the fun be in that?

[Warbucks]

Illogic,

For some reason, I'd expected folks who are from/hang out a lot in a particular area would be interested in others sharing the sexual joys of their fair cities. Which makes the response of the Manila crowd so odd: everyone says "Go to Bangkok! " guess I should adjust my expectations a bit.

As for the rest, well, I hear what you're saying but on the flip side, there is something to be said for that extra bit of time cuddlnig/snuggling. Case in point: the Thai provider I saw here wasnt the original woman I'd expected to meet, that one was busy with a client and I didn't feel like setting around for the better part of an hour waiting for her to service him, so I took the "other" girl. She was fairly young, extremely attractive, both face and body, and once we got down to business, an excellent performer. She was also in a hurry for me to get done, which made the whole thing feel like I was running a race, not having sex. On the other hand, the Chinese woman I mentioned in my post to Gama wasn't quite that young, she had a couple extra pounds (not enough to be called "fat" in any way, though) and she could ahve used a shot of mouthwash. Once we got going, she took her time, made it clear that she wanted me to 'enjoy the ride', and I found out (with a bit of experimenting) what got her going. She got off, I got off, we had a bit of time before the session was supposed to be over, so I laid down with her and we talked (she was originally from Hong Kong so had good English skills). She didn't act like she was in a hurry for me to get gone, so after a bit I asked her if she wanted to go again. She was game and we went into a session that was even better than the first one. After we got done, she took what she'd have gotten for the regular session, thanked me (she'd managed to get off a couple of times during round #2 she told me) and gave me a kiss to boot. So, a bit of extra attention can pay off, and I'm not against it. After all, if all I wanted to do was get my rocks off, I could save the cash and "go manual", but where'd the fun be in that?

I agree tricks should not be rushed to finish takes away from the experience. But like I said as long as she does her job. What I also don’t like is girls who come into the room and decide they want to watch TV or other strange acts like touch my laptop…. totally unacceptable. :confused:

[Warbucks]

Its not my favourite place but its sad to hear one less venue available to us. No doubt another venue will rise up in its place.

Actually the area has been crying out for urban renewal for ages. The boulevard is quite nice area at night again at the moment, its great for the city to redevelop this slum behind the seafront. The same thing was done down in Dipolog recently with a big improvement to that city's amenity.

I cant believe the owners of LA Cafe were not making shed loads of money. Im sure the 'Brand' will not disappear.
AV


While I was not a big fan of Café I hate to see another mongering venue close down. Not to mention the place has a lot of history. That’s nice to know that Million dollar man Manny Paquiao used to visit the place
.
I prefer the Gos Gos but LA was a good place to go just to hang out. No pressure to buy drinks. Music wasn’t that bad. It was nice to see the girls in a relaxed environment shooting pool, chasing tricks, drinking themselves into a stupor and not just shuffling around on stage in some beach wear :D

[Puerto La Cruz]

An absolute tragedy. Sounds like it will be closed before I get into town on the 17th. Indeed there are other venues but for convenience and slutiness in that city ........................

[Castlerae]

Illogic,

Yes, I think I would be very uncomfortable with a provider handling something like my laptop too. For the planned trip, not planning on doing a 'Hannibal crosses the Alps' sort of venture, just what I need to get me through (maybe not even a camera). What with the extra "fees" the airlines are tacking on for baggage these days, I figure the lighter I travel, the cheaper I travel.

Well, think I might follow the Manila advice and center on Bangkok.

Thanks for the advice and good hunting!

[Cunning Stunt]

Yeah, what a fucker ... but guess you guys are forgetting what day it is;).

If you want tickets for the 'closing' party, get them from Ms Bimby Pakshet. You can't miss her:D.

[Amavida]

Yeah, what a fucker ... but guess you guys are forgetting what day it is;).

If you want tickets for the 'closing' party, get them from Ms Bimby Pakshet. You can't miss her:D.
ROTFLMAO! :D

[Redfield10]

Good April Fools, but I would have had mixed feelings. I'd be glad they may be trying to clean up that slummy, dangerous, dog shit area. But I love LA Cafe itself.


For the time being, I'm done with the Phils anyway. Thailand has it beat in almost any relevant area I can think of anyway except ease of getting there.



An absolute tragedy. Sounds like it will be closed before I get into town on the 17th. Indeed there are other venues but for convenience and slutiness in that city ........................

[Puerto La Cruz]

I was wondering if that wasn't a prank when I was driving into work.

[Denom]

Damn!

You got me!

The fact that I could not find anything in the (real) news should have given me a hint...

I feel like... a fool... ;-)

[Arthur66]

what hotel did you stay at in manila?Lancaster hotel, also known as Lancaster Suites. Excellent hotel, very good service.

[Arthur66]

But what do you mean by "ballooned?" I haven't heard that term before.Hi Rubio Tonto,

You never heard it before because I kind of invented it.

Some ladies, often after having kids, have a tendency to balloon. Their vagina, after some time of healthy and vigorous sex, and possibly a couple of orgasms, loose its muscular tone, and relax.

The result is that, deprived of the contact with the inner vaginal walls, our dearest friend find itself in a sea of. Nothing else but air.

Since making love to air is not its mission in life, as it needs warm, wet, tight and toned muscles around it, it soon looses interest and goes to sleep.

This is very frustrating, but it happens quite often. Age, kids, and overall health plays a role in this matter. Since I love to give pleasure before taking it, it is even more frustrating.

When the lady balloons, she also feels less. If she is the 'uterine' kind of woman, she might surrender and use other tricks, like oral or anal, to satisfy her partner. That is the reason why more mature ladies offer sometimes anal, they can not count anymore on their primary weapon.

If they are the clytoris kind of ladies, they continue to enjoy themselves even if ballooned, but the man does not.

I would be interested to know if somebody knows the 'right' word for this phenomena.

Kind regards,

Arthur

[Denom]

Some ladies, often after having kids, have a tendency to balloon. Their vagina, after some time of healthy and vigorous sex, and possibly a couple of orgasms, loose its muscular tone, and relax.

Plus after having kids their belly becomes in terrible shape. Not all, if they don't scratch while pregnant, but that's the case of most of the hookers you'll find in LA Cafe or Quezon Avenue because they are mostly uneducated. Most of them have kids, which is why they get in the trade in the first place, and they do tend to have kids at a very young age. Finding a P4P girl old enough to enjoy sex but not yet "damaged" is quite a challenge...

This being said I don't know the word for it but I observed it may times indeed.

[Amavida]

Hi Rubio Tonto,

You never heard it before because I kind of invented it.

Some ladies, often after having kids, have a tendency to balloon. Their vagina, after some time of healthy and vigorous sex, and possibly a couple of orgasms, loose its muscular tone, and relax.

I would be interested to know if somebody knows the 'right' word for this phenomena.

Kind regards,
ArthurArthur, this is actually the normal physiological response of a woman who is sexually aroused. Her vagina will dilate.

After a kid or two things get a little stretched down there & so it is more _obvious_.

If a chick is _REALLY_ tight it means a) she has not had kids & b) not that turned on. (Even women who have had kids can be tight if they are not in the mood)

Chicks who have'nt had kids but ARE turned on is the holy grail. ;)
If a chick is loose & wet you should consider it a compliment, shes diggin it!
AV

[Divino]

AV suggests that Xman has used Divino as a new nom de plume to comment on AV’s mis-representation of facts involving a killing in an airport recently. AV is wrong as X man has no relationship to Divino. My apologies to X man for the time taken to correct AV’s assertion.

It is immaterial who wrote that AV had misrepresented the facts as that does not alter the issue involved. I feel an apology to readers, rather than accusing X man, may have been more appropriate.

[Cunning Stunt]

This may be the best April Fool's joke ever played on me, G. I was actually depressed when I read your bogus article. YOU @$#%&^*@!!!!

I had a GREAT time there last month, doinking nine beauties, all C and D cuppers, in a five day period, including four in my first day in Malate (morning, noon and night).

Pleased to be of service, D :D. I was a bit surprised that it wasn't quickly sussed out by a Tagalog speaking member as I gave the protagonists silly names as in:

Abrilla Tanga (Abril Tanga) = April Fool
Binibrocha = pussy licking
Pakshet = fuckshit - a common Tagalog imprecation
Alfredo Lim = the silly name of the real mayor of Manila and the scourge of mongers.

It is the 10th anniversary of LA Cafe in August. Wonder if they will throw a party?

[Busta Hymen]

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[HenryV]

Scared the hell out of me. Spent an entire eight nights (and mornings) there.

By the way, to protect the innocent (me) I have changed my name - still same great repoting though.


This may be the best April Fool's joke ever played on me, G. I was actually depressed when I read your bogus article. YOU @$#%&^*@!!!!

I had a GREAT time there last month, doinking nine beauties, all C and D cuppers, in a five day period, including four in my first day in Malate (morning, noon and night).

[John Jr]

A few questions to guy's who have gone to Philippines for work.

If the stay is less than 90 day's do i need a visa ? What happends if my stay is extended after the 90 days ?

I will have a work cell phone on location but i want a personal one. Where do i get a cell phone in Manila (name , address and website would be nice). What are the charges for the cell phone , air time and charges to call localy and to canada ?

Food and entertainement :

On average how much can 3 descent meals cost in a city like Manila ? What are the good local restaurants and the best places to visit ?

Where would a local girl like to go out ?

[Deep Diver]

Heya guys need a little advice here. I got a girl that I have known for a while that wants me to come see her. I plan on going to visit her in june but she will be working during the day and will be free at night. Since I will be alone during the day I was thinking I might find some company to entertain myself. The problem is that while she lives in Metro Manila she is in a city called Marikina City. I have not heard of this city mentioned on the forums before and would be interested in finding out if there is any info on the area or some place close by I might be able to hook up some afternoon delight. Thanks in advance guys. - DD

[Lenience]

A few questions to guy's who have gone to Philippines for work.

If the stay is less than 90 day's do i need a visa ? What happends if my stay is extended after the 90 days ?

I will have a work cell phone on location but i want a personal one. Where do i get a cell phone in Manila (name , address and website would be nice). What are the charges for the cell phone , air time and charges to call localy and to canada ?

Food and entertainement :

On average how much can 3 descent meals cost in a city like Manila ? What are the good local restaurants and the best places to visit ?

Where would a local girl like to go out ?

I can only answer a few of those Qs: You can buy cellphones everywhere! I think there are more phone shops than people in Manila. Cheapest new one is about php 1700, and there are places in Harrison Plaza that sell used ones cheaper. They are almost all prepaid, with 3 main providers. You get a "load" for any amount you want. Hard to tell you prices because they have a few different plans. I would guess that international calls are expensive though. The loads usually include a bunch of free text messages though.

Meals run from 100 ($2) (fast food) to 3/4/5/6/00 typically, but of course the sky's the limit. Problem is quality, not price IMHO. I am always disappointed but have not hit the Japanese and Korean restos yet.

Local girls are happy in local restaurants. The Chowking chain is popular.

I'm no expert - I just do takeouts from G-Point and rarely invite them to dine.

[Lenience]

Heya guys need a little advice here. I got a girl that I have known for a while that wants me to come see her. I plan on going to visit her in june but she will be working during the day and will be free at night. Since I will be alone during the day I was thinking I might find some company to entertain myself. The problem is that while she lives in Metro Manila she is in a city called Marikina City. I have not heard of this city mentioned on the forums before and would be interested in finding out if there is any info on the area or some place close by I might be able to hook up some afternoon delight. Thanks in advance guys. - DD


Marikina City is on the outskirts of Metro Manila. Not hard to get there but it takes a while from Makati or Ermita. About php 300 by taxi or 30 by light rail (last station on LRT2), which can actually be faster and more comfortable. Marikina is probably the cleanest and best run city in the area because the mayors (husband and wife in turn) are great - they adopted Singapore as a sister city and went nuts cleaning up the streets. I doubt if you can hook up anything on the side there, but it's not too far from Quezon City IIRC.

[Betong]

Local girls are happy in local restaurants. The Chowking chain is popular.Gag! Please, at least take them to Gerry's Grill, for your own sake if not for theirs!

[Deep Diver]

Marikina City is on the outskirts of Metro Manila. Not hard to get there but it takes a while from Makati or Ermita. About php 300 by taxi or 30 by light rail (last station on LRT2), which can actually be faster and more comfortable. Marikina is probably the cleanest and best run city in the area because the mayors (husband and wife in turn) are great - they adopted Singapore as a sister city and went nuts cleaning up the streets. I doubt if you can hook up anything on the side there, but it's not too far from Quezon City IIRC.

Thanks for the Info matie how far from Quezon is it and is there any pointers for a place to go during the day as I will be occupied at night.

[Finrod]

I can only answer a few of those Qs: You can buy cellphones everywhere! I think there are more phone shops than people in Manila. Cheapest new one is about php 1700, and there are places in Harrison Plaza that sell used ones cheaper. They are almost all prepaid, with 3 main providers. You get a "load" for any amount you want. Hard to tell you prices because they have a few different plans. I would guess that international calls are expensive though. The loads usually include a bunch of free text messages though.
International calls are usually 15 pesos per minute on prepaid plans. Definitely not cheap. If you're going to be calling frequently enough and you will have internet access, you might be better using Skype or some other VOIP provider that allows you to have a Canadian phone number that rings at your laptop. Add a USB-compatible handset to that and you're in business.

[Cunning Stunt]

Thanks for the Info matie how far from Quezon is it and is there any pointers for a place to go during the day as I will be occupied at night.

If you happen to get a free night DD, you might like to check out the large open air bars that are on the right hand side of Tuazon as you approach from the large Sto Lucia Shopping Mall. A friend told me that there are girls available here but I have not tried them myself. Marakina is a nice enough place (famous for its shoes) but not much to do during the day although you might like to try a spot of mall hunting at the aforementioned Santa Lucia Mall

[Aussiec]

Marikina is rather nice and clean on a Philippine level. As stated earlier from one of our friends here the Mayor has really clean the city up in regards to trash pick up. Cleaner streets, and greener inviroment. Having said that don't have the idea that your walking into Singapore. Because the reality is its still dirty. But not like walking down streets of Angeles thats for sure.

Now, I had a gf that lived here several years ago and frequent the area often. Riverbanks Mall is similar to buying cheap items and knock off brand names. I have scored several times with sales girls working here but If your looking for fun then Marikina is not the idea place for you. I would say if your looking to live in Philippines near Manila and layback and enjoy peace of mind then Marikina is good place to consider.

[FreebieFan]

Next visit is in two weeks time. Already scheduled a new one for the first night. Nice fun lady who I met in a clean wholesome massage place. Anyways she; s obviously familiar with the male body so that shouldnt be a prob. Second night will be a lady I nearly scored with in my car around Global city but too much traffic and no time. So we will complete the unfinished business. But the best is the third night. Gal from Pampanga who happily takes the bus for 4 hours to be with me. Booked a room (as I don't want her in my condo) and have bought long black boots and long gloves that go up the arm for her. She loves me taking videos of her so the long boot long glove look with a pair of see thru panties should be good to kick things off. She will of course also bring the nurse uniform she had made with white stockings and garter belt. Ah the joy of anticipation. Wonder who I will do on the morning before flight back.

[Deep Diver]

If you happen to get a free night DD, you might like to check out the large open air bars that are on the right hand side of Tuazon as you approach from the large Sto Lucia Shopping Mall. A friend told me that there are girls available here but I have not tried them myself. Marakina is a nice enough place (famous for its shoes) but not much to do during the day although you might like to try a spot of mall hunting at the aforementioned Santa Lucia Mall

thanks mate I will let you know how the trip goes. I have a GF there that is interested in getting in the family way. We have been seeing eachother for a while and she doesnt want to leave the PI due to family commitments and connections. In the entire time I have known her shes never asked me for a dime. Hell she has even paid for dinner and the hotel room from time to time but the I sometimes get the feeling she only wants me for my dick and my seed. ( is that such a bad thing? lol )

[Lenience]

Gag! Please, at least take them to Gerry's Grill, for your own sake if not for theirs!

I never saw a Gerry's Grill. My philosophy is that there is always a Chowking between the pickup point and the hotel, and it's fast and cheap, like most of the girls (and me).

[Lenience]

Plus after having kids their belly becomes in terrible shape. Not all, if they don't scratch while pregnant, but that's the case of most of the hookers you'll find in LA Cafe or Quezon Avenue because they are mostly uneducated. Most of them have kids, which is why they get in the trade in the first place, and they do tend to have kids at a very young age. Finding a P4P girl old enough to enjoy sex but not yet "damaged" is quite a challenge...

This being said I don't know the word for it but I observed it may times indeed.


General Izations, I presume? I've had (as recently as tonite) women with several kids who are tight aND HOT. For me, too tight isn;t necessarily a good thing becuz it makes me cum too fast. I seek the perfect fit; for me it is the holy grail, not someone who is a perfect 10 (and a starfish more often than not).

[Cunning Stunt]

thanks mate I will let you know how the trip goes. I have a GF there that is interested in getting in the family way. We have been seeing eachother for a while and she doesnt want to leave the PI due to family commitments and connections. In the entire time I have known her shes never asked me for a dime. Hell she has even paid for dinner and the hotel room from time to time but the I sometimes get the feeling she only wants me for my dick and my seed. ( is that such a bad thing? lol )

Sounds like you have a rare gem there DD - but I guess that you know that a Filipina quite often wants to get 'knocked up' in order to try to capture her man. This ruse does not work very well with Filipino men (who often do a quick one at the first sign of trouble) but is often effective with softer hearted foreigners. But if you can see things from her POV, this is all fairly understandable. But I would advise caution unless you are sure that she is definitely the one for you.

But I think that you know all this and I hope that you have great trip.


I never saw a Gerry's Grill. My philosophy is that there is always a Chowking between the pickup point and the hotel, and it's fast and cheap.

Too right mate, and buy a girl one of their super-duper halo-halo's and she will be yours forever (or at least until the next morning :D).

[Cunning Stunt]

She loves me taking videos of her so the long boot long glove look with a pair of see thru panties should be good to kick things off. She will of course also bring the nurse uniform she had made with white stockings and garter belt. Ah the joy of anticipation. Wonder who I will do on the morning before flight back.

LOL - you kinky beast, you - there goes a man after my own heart:D. Just wish that you would share some of your photos/vid stills as I imagine they would be most interesting;).

[Deep Diver]

Sounds like you have a rare gem there DD - but I guess that you know that a Filipina quite often wants to get 'knocked up' in order to try to capture her man. This ruse does not work very well with Filipino men (who often do a quick one at the first sign of trouble) but is often effective with softer hearted foreigners. But if you can see things from her POV, this is all fairly understandable. But I would advise caution unless you are sure that she is definitely the one for you.

But I think that you know all this and I hope that you have great trip.


I do have a rare one matie but I do know what your saying about capturing a man I was married twice before and the first one was a peruvian who, while I was young dumb and full of cum, knocked her up. The second one was an older filipina whos sisters and cousins and nieces played that exact game with a few guys. But the thing is with this one I have asked her many times to come to the states with me and she has refused. so its either I come there and stay or just come there and visit till her mother dies and then she comes to the states.

[FreebieFan]

LOL. You kinky beast, you. There goes a man after my own heart: D. Just wish that you would share some of your photos/vid stills as I imagine they would be most interesting.Send me your email add by pm. Maybe I can find some pics of my uniform clad hottie that will get you salivating.

[Cunning Stunt]

But the thing is with this one I have asked her many times to come to the states with me and she has refused. so its either I come there and stay or just come there and visit till her mother dies and then she comes to the states.

Sounds like a real, old fashioned case of 'utang loob' or filial responsibility and devotion. Strikes me that a woman who is such a good and devoted daughter, would also make a very good and devoted wife. I think that you might just be third time lucky:).


Send me your email add by pm. Maybe I can find some pics of my uniform clad hottie that will get you salivating.

Will do - sounds good to me - can do a few swopsies if you like;).

[cyclops]

But the thing is with this one I have asked her many times to come to the states with me and she has refused. so its either I come there and stay or just come there and visit till her mother dies and then she comes to the states.Consider that she may already be married to a Filipino - not to say she is involved with this person anymore in any way, but there's no divorce, so the CENOMAR issue could get in the way, and she might know it. The only way out of marriage for a Filipina is annulment (very difficult to get) or presumed/actual death of the spouse...

[Deep Diver]

Consider that she may already be married to a Filipino - not to say she is involved with this person anymore in any way, but there's no divorce, so the CENOMAR issue could get in the way, and she might know it. The only way out of marriage for a Filipina is annulment (very difficult to get) or presumed/actual death of the spouse...
Yep thanks for that info but we had already been down that road and I know shes not married and has never been. She is more worried about her mother being alone and having no one else to take care of her. She has never asked me for money or asked for my help with anything. As a matter of fact her mother while I was there went to hospital and when I offered to help with the bills she turned me down flat. Anyway I can tell shes not a gold digger so thats for sure a plus. I know shes not and has never been married from her family & friends along with other people we know in common. I guess this thread has taken a side track because as good as my girl is I am like all of you a monger and was looking for a little tang on the side while shes not around to deal with it.

[Amavida]

.. She is more worried about her mother being alone and having no one else to take care of her. A very real concern. its a harsh place unless you are wealthy. Leaving your elderly mother behind here to fend for herself is unthinkable. She sounds like a decent person.
AV

[Wizard561]

Yep thanks for that info but we had already been down that road and I know shes not married and has never been. She is more worried about her mother being alone and having no one else to take care of her. She has never asked me for money or asked for my help with anything. As a matter of fact her mother while I was there went to hospital and when I offered to help with the bills she turned me down flat. Anyway I can tell shes not a gold digger so thats for sure a plus. I know shes not and has never been married from her family & friends along with other people we know in common. I guess this thread has taken a side track because as good as my girl is I am like all of you a monger and was looking for a little tang on the side while shes not around to deal with it.

Hey Deep Diver, I think most will agree that reading about a Pinay that is not a gold digger and dosent think of you as an ATM makes a refreshing change and me for 1 I like to hear about a good news story about getting together with a Filipina thats wort spending a lot of time with maybe even marry.

Good luck

Wizard

[World Guy Sh]

I like to hear about a good news story about getting together with a Filipina thats wort spending a lot of time with maybe even marry.Yep, and the rest of us can just dream! If she is as good a you say she is, and I am sure she is, you are one lucky man!

Have fun

WGS

[Deep Diver]

Thanks guys for all your kind words. She is great a little bit raggy at times but great. Now back to my original quest for a little tang during the day when shes not around any suggestions ?
-DD

[Puerto La Cruz]

The girl I was going to travel with this trip decided she couldn't leave her work for nine or ten days. I was already apprehensive cuz she wanted to meet me at the airport and be with me the entire time I am to be in Phils. That's a big NOT. That translates into control attempts and pissing matches.

Woe is me. I might have to find a suitable beach partner at Firehouse, LA Cafe or that forbidden ***** town AC. To me its a shithole, but it looks like its AC for a couple of days and then to the beach. Woe is me.

Now this looks like a much better trip than I had planned on. Woe is me.

[Piper1]

I thought I would ask the membership what they thought about it. I sit here in San Francisco as I write this. Lot of fags here.
You sound like you really want to try it. But be careful with the fags Jack. Not good for your health.

[Frenchhero]

Firehouse in Edsa complex was a lot of fun.
We did barfine a girl who was very wild on the dancefloor, but unfortunately, she was a little bit shy in the bedroom due to some stretch marks on her belly. I can't remember her name, but she is really cute and she never goes on stage, she only spends time with clothes at the bar.
If someone goes to Firehouse, can he tell me how is Miss Shane in bed, a very funny girl with pigtails who really seems to enjoy her job as she is always smiling.

Burgos was nice as expected, especially Bottoms and Flamingos, but we did not fell like barfining anyone as it was still too soon in the evening.

Havana Cafe in Greenbelt has its share of girls, but the dancefloor is too small, the terrace is always full, so it is not so easy to talk discretly to girls.
Most of them ask around 3 or 4000 peso, but i guess that this amount can be bargained.

La Cafe : Instead of being too cautious about the Pinoy guys waiting outside the bar, one should be more cautious about the drunken Aussies patronizing the bar.
Last sunday, I could meet a girl there, fair skin, spitting image of Cris Taliana, waitress in a korean restaurant, but she did not allow any pics.
The selection at La Cafe seems to be always better than in all Angeles city.

Robinson's mall : I noticed once two girls who gave me the eye near Starbucks, they seemed cute enough so I went in their direction. Suddenly, i realize that they have never been to a dentist or that they were drug addicted, it was scary. Then, i never noticed anything else on my other visits.

Ascend at the Fort : nice nightclub, very young crowd and I haven't noticed any freelancers, only some R&b afficionados. Not worth going there to flirt unless you are 20.

[Saibb]

I never saw a Gerry's Grill. My philosophy is that there is always a Chowking between the pickup point and the hotel, and it's fast and cheap, like most of the girls (and me).
Well said Lenience, second that emotion. SB

[Bay Area Puma]

Ok bros I would appreciate some help and info.

I will be arriving in in Manila in the morning with a flight out to Cebu in the afternoon. I don't want to stay in the airport for 4to 5 hours.

I would like to get a short term hotel room close to the airport to shower and relax before I fly to Cebu. Any clean comfortable short hotel room avaiaalbe close to the airport?

Info greatly appreciated

[FreebieFan]

Ok bros I would appreciate some help and info.

I will be arriving in in Manila in the morning with a flight out to Cebu in the afternoon. I don't want to stay in the airport for 4to 5 hours.

I would like to get a short term hotel room close to the airport to shower and relax before I fly to Cebu. Any clean comfortable short hotel room avaiaalbe close to the airport?

Info greatly appreciatedI suggest have taxi driver take you to Sogo in Pasay City. Its really not far from airport. When you get there they offer in room massage. Always some ready girls. Conclude quick negotiation. And best way to spend a few hours.

[Mr Hawaii]

Ok bros I would appreciate some help and info.

I will be arriving in in Manila in the morning with a flight out to Cebu in the afternoon. I don't want to stay in the airport for 4to 5 hours.

I would like to get a short term hotel room close to the airport to shower and relax before I fly to Cebu. Any clean comfortable short hotel room avaiaalbe close to the airport?

Info greatly appreciated

OK, that is your schedule. Planes are often late, so by the time you go through immigration, etc., the wait will not be so long. Plus you have to find your way from Intern'l to domestic airport. You don't say what airline you are flying, but if PAL, then intern'l and domestic are housed in same bldg. If you fly another carrier, you will use plenty of time going from terminal to terminal. When you get to Cebu Pacific or PAL terminal ticket counter, and if you are still early, just ask them to book you on the next flight. A lot of times flights are not full and they will accommodate you. But again, even though it looks like a 4-5 hour wait on paper, it may be only 2 hours, depending on what airlines you are on.

[AgentOrange]

Ok bros I would appreciate some help and info.

I will be arriving in in Manila in the morning with a flight out to Cebu in the afternoon. I don't want to stay in the airport for 4to 5 hours.

I would like to get a short term hotel room close to the airport to shower and relax before I fly to Cebu. Any clean comfortable short hotel room avaiaalbe close to the airport?

Info greatly appreciated

I agree with Mr. Hawaii... besides, it's too risky to go out of the airport then go back with unpredictable Manila traffic. You might end up missing your flight.

[El Culion]

If you fly another carrier, you will use plenty of time going from terminal to terminal.Not only PAL. Cebu Pacific also uses the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 for both domestic and international flights

[Aussiec]

Well you stated you have 5 hours to kill. As stated you not want to miss your next flight. My suggestion is Air Force 1 down the road. Personally I have never gone there but the reviews I have heard on them is good. Its only about 10 15 min from the airport and will take up atleast 1 to 2 hours of your time. I am sure there is other places close by the airport that will suit you as well. At least all is provided ar air force one. The girl, drinks, room and well. Duh.

Good luck

[Amavida]

Ok bros I would appreciate some help and info.

I will be arriving in in Manila in the morning with a flight out to Cebu in the afternoon. I don't want to stay in the airport for 4to 5 hours.

I would like to get a short term hotel room close to the airport to shower and relax before I fly to Cebu. Any clean comfortable short hotel room avaiaalbe close to the airport?

Info greatly appreciatedYou could get a taxi to Airforce1 in pasay. Pick a girl, pay, fuck, shower, taxi back to airport. Only problem is you are cutting it very fine on time.
AV

[Wicked Roger]

Fellow Mongers

I will post this in a few threads as not quite where to post this – apologies if you read it more than once

A quick note to say Nikki (Miss N) from the UAE threads is now in the Philippines and is looking for some fun guys.

Her reputation is well known in the UAE where she gave the best ever BBBJ and ‘full menu’ shagging including Greek, sex toys, bisexual (she even picked the girl a couple times for me), loves a good threesome...some guys that took her LT could only manage ST as she shagged them to exhaustion. There many guys here in the UAE asking if/when she will return so if you see her please ask her....;)

The nearest that you could say she resembles sexually (but not in her figure) is Ana. She has the same desire to enjoy shagging. She met me long time back and had never done a threesome but as always Professor WR did his best with lovely results :D

A few pictures are in the Photo Gallery in this forum but much more can be found from 2007 etc in the UAE thread where there a number of FRs on her abilities in the bedroom and everywhere else. I have been given a HJ by this lady in club in the UAE, she has been banned from one in Abu Dhabi as her mini skirt was too mini :D and I fondly remember being in Wild West and Flamingo with her while she chose a girl for a night of pussy licking while I watched and later joined in...

She is now in the provinces and will come to you as long as the bus fare is paid which is not that much (1000 pesos return). Also she will ask for a load so she can call you and chat.

One guy is seeing her soon as he contacted me to ask if she was around in the Philippines as he is visiting the country this weekend and if she was ‘working’. Others will be seeing her sometime next month – the same guy who flew to the UAE a while back to spend his birthday with her (she was his present so to speak) and is now based in Asia so easier to get to Manila.

She has not been knocking off pinoys etc, she does not like them, she has been sorting some bad karma in her family (including the death of 2 family members last year which somewhat rattled her badly). But now she is OK and called me ask if I had ‘friends’. She does not know of ISG and I will not post face pictures here but for those who PM and contact her I have some – well I have a serious large GB external drive full of N pictures...

If you would like to see her and experience her ‘menu’ then PM me please – she is not a young girls she is 29, slim not hanging rack like Ana, always in good shape. Pictures can tell you. But if fancy some variety with a guaranteed naughty edge then she is fun to be with.

Keep hard and horny

[Ben2]

All right fellow mongers....any MP's/pole dancing bars around Garden Heights/St. Luke's area worth mentioning?

[Devils 1]

You could get a taxi to Airforce1 in pasay. Pick a girl, pay, fuck, shower, taxi back to airport. Only problem is you are cutting it very fine on time.
AVThis situation calls for AF1. It is very close to the airport. The line up is absolutely spectacular there. They have showers in the room. The door men have a locking room to store your luggage. A quick massage after a long flight. A good hard fuck to clear the cobwebs from your head. You will have the biggest smile on your face all the while you are on the plane. Not long after you land you will be balls deep in some brown island pussy. Damb I envy you!

[ShadowAxis]

Af1 is going to set you back $120 ish. (if you go business or first class) and after a long flight (assumption) you'd be better off paying the fee to catch tomorrows flight. And getting laid (when you have more energy and time) properly. If it rains while you are getting your knob polished. And the roads flood (which they do) then you won't make your flight anyway.

That said, I have always had positive experiences at AF1 but only because I have taken the time to enjoy it.


This situation calls for AF1. It is very close to the airport. The line up is absolutely spectacular there. They have showers in the room. The door men have a locking room to store your luggage. A quick massage after a long flight. A good hard fuck to clear the cobwebs from your head. You will have the biggest smile on your face all the while you are on the plane. Not long after you land you will be balls deep in some brown island pussy. Damb I envy you!

[FreebieFan]

Arrived in Manila lasst Wednesday. And should preface this report by stating I'm nearing my mid 50s and starting to slow down. LOL.

Anyways on previous visit, I had ended my visit with a nice wholesome massage, which had ended in a few kisses. The young lady (20) and I have been exchanging sms and for this visit had kindly taken the day off work to meet me.

Now as the massage room was dark I really wasnt sure who I was meeting. Waiting for her near a mall and there a lovely young thing, in nice high heels, dress with good curves and happy smile. Knew it was going to be my day.

We had a drink then left in direction of Sogo.

As we are driving a car in front makes emergency stop. I brake and change lanes. At which point an MMDA idiot stops my car and accuses me of swerving. Correct sir, I swerved to avoid being killed. " Sir its against the law to swerve". Meaningless exchange followed, and he got p200 to go away.

Got to room and young lady was super tasty. Perfectly tasty puss. Did all the normal things. Dropped her off and went to Burgos for drinks till late. She was happy with the chocolates and phone card I got her.

Next day, did some work, set up some meets and was supposed to meet a dia lady at 2pm. I waited till 3pm still no show so go home for a much needed sleep. At 3. 30. She sends sms. Shes so sorry, please will I forgive her, she will do ANYTHING if I forgive her. Hmm. Ok, let me think about that.

Meanwhile, headed to Makati ave, met another dia lady. Went for drinks in sports bar on Kalayaan, then to the car. So much traffic, so can't be bothered to go to Sogo. Took her to my condo till midnight, then took her to her bus stop. She still faced a 90 minute ride home!

Next day had breakfast, then met a gal from Marikina. Took her 90 minutes to get to Makati. She was with sister, gave sister P100 and she left. Took the gal to my place, where we started on the sofa, then moved the bedroom. Got a nice little morning blow then had to send her away as I had to go to work. She gave me the " I have no money and need money for xyz etc bit. Gave her some and thought that was the end of her. No. I got hundreds of sms thereafter from her begging for money etc. Hate that.

Meanwhile, did my work and met MS Pampanga. This is the one who will gladly dress as nurse, schoolgirl, whatever I request. She came down from Pampanga to meet me, and I put her up in a hotel. Normal good fun but spoilt a bit by period starting. However her in a pair of thigh high black boots was a great sight!

We were together for about 16 hours then put her on bus back to Pampanga.

Meanwhile my afternoon plans were to meet Ms I will do anything". She had told me she was ugly but I met a nice slim and happy lady. Not perfect but doable. Went to Sogo and she enjoyed and said first sex for her for 18 months. Dropped her off and had a long nights drinking in Burgos.

Next day met Ms I will do Anything again. This time I had lots more energy and can remember her shouting "ITS SO GOOD" with her legs wide open.

From Sogo went to the massage place to give Ms Massage some more chocolates and a goodbye kiss. Well I had time for a massage and somewher we got kissing. This is in a place with curtain so couldn't do too much. But remember she gave my dick a sweet long slow and succulent good bye kiss. Really nice girl.

Then to airport and flight home. Exhausted as always.

When will I learn to pace myself.

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[Ben2]

I never did get any replies to my request last week looking for "action" in QC. So...I just started my own.
Stayed at the Garden Heights Condos....clean, comfortable room that won't set you back 5000 pesos! Cost me 2000 a night. 19th floor, good view. It's not 5 star, but I can't see spending more than I have to.
Have to negotiate your rate though...
In house massage service...no extras offered.
Went to Greenhills mall....100 peso taxi ride from the hotel...large mall,
usual coffee shops and spent some time at Starbucks...was approached by no less then 5 gals within an hour, exchanged numbers, etc.
I was not in the mood at the time so I "passed" on the offers.
Returned the next day and hooked up with a different gal. Spent some time with her, probably 6 hours total, and I did NOT spend any money on her shopping!!
Not a cent. Bought some coffee and lunch for us, took in a movie and ended up back at the hotel and didn't cost me a cent for her! I'm thinking, ok...this is going to come back and bite me in the ass!
Two days later, back at the mall and hook up with a different gal after a few hours of hunting....lunch, walking around, chatting, etc....went back to my place and got a BBBJ, no charge and she didn't ask for any money.
The two I hooked up with are not bad looking, rather attractive, but no technique in the sex department.
If a guy has half a brain, decent personality and presents himself nicely, he will score. You dress like a slob with your gut hanging over your belt, you ain't got nothing coming! You'll have to pay!

[Wolfie Mike]

Friends,

I've also had the pleasure of some great sessions with Miss N (go read the Abu Dhabi thread). If you are in Manila/Makati etc then I recommend you see her. Treat her kindly and with respect and you will be rewarded with a great and unforgettable time. She deserves a break and you will not regret it.

Have fun

WM

(also posted in other threads like WR)



Fellow Mongers

I will post this in a few threads as not quite where to post this – apologies if you read it more than once

A quick note to say Nikki (Miss N) from the UAE threads is now in the Philippines and is looking for some fun guys.

Her reputation is well known in the UAE where she gave the best ever BBBJ and ‘full menu’ shagging including Greek, sex toys, bisexual (she even picked the girl a couple times for me), loves a good threesome...some guys that took her LT could only manage ST as she shagged them to exhaustion. There many guys here in the UAE asking if/when she will return so if you see her please ask her....;)

The nearest that you could say she resembles sexually (but not in her figure) is Ana. She has the same desire to enjoy shagging. She met me long time back and had never done a threesome but as always Professor WR did his best with lovely results :D

A few pictures are in the Photo Gallery in this forum but much more can be found from 2007 etc in the UAE thread where there a number of FRs on her abilities in the bedroom and everywhere else. I have been given a HJ by this lady in club in the UAE, she has been banned from one in Abu Dhabi as her mini skirt was too mini :D and I fondly remember being in Wild West and Flamingo with her while she chose a girl for a night of pussy licking while I watched and later joined in...

She is now in the provinces and will come to you as long as the bus fare is paid which is not that much (1000 pesos return). Also she will ask for a load so she can call you and chat.

One guy is seeing her soon as he contacted me to ask if she was around in the Philippines as he is visiting the country this weekend and if she was ‘working’. Others will be seeing her sometime next month – the same guy who flew to the UAE a while back to spend his birthday with her (she was his present so to speak) and is now based in Asia so easier to get to Manila.

She has not been knocking off pinoys etc, she does not like them, she has been sorting some bad karma in her family (including the death of 2 family members last year which somewhat rattled her badly). But now she is OK and called me ask if I had ‘friends’. She does not know of ISG and I will not post face pictures here but for those who PM and contact her I have some – well I have a serious large GB external drive full of N pictures...

If you would like to see her and experience her ‘menu’ then PM me please – she is not a young girls she is 29, slim not hanging rack like Ana, always in good shape. Pictures can tell you. But if fancy some variety with a guaranteed naughty edge then she is fun to be with.

Keep hard and horny

[FreebieFan]

Saw an ad on Craiglists for Fusion. The best erotic experience in Manila " quote. Stated they are at Bayview Intl tower, roxas Blvd in Paranaque City. Anyone tried this place.

[Cbea20]

Saw an ad on Craiglists for Fusion. The best erotic experience in Manila " quote. Stated they are at Bayview Intl tower, roxas Blvd in Paranaque City. Anyone tried this place.According to the locals on manilatonight.com, Fusion is a lot of new-agey hype and no sextras.

[KyCuriosity]

Which thread on here can I find Boracay?

And available bars, women, etc?

I've looked and can't find any reference to it.

[Marconista]

Fusion is OK for massage, but give HJ only.
Been there once.


Saw an ad on Craiglists for Fusion. The best erotic experience in Manila " quote. Stated they are at Bayview Intl tower, roxas Blvd in Paranaque City. Anyone tried this place.

[Sun Chaser]

Which thread on here can I find Boracay?

And available bars, women, etc?

I've looked and can't find any reference to it.There were alot of girls at Cocomangas that was looking.

http://www.cocomangas.com/

The other bars around it, Gilley's Bar and Grille and Club Paraw had very
few, but higher class girls.

[Spam Hog]

Which thread on here can I find Boracay?

And available bars, women, etc?

I've looked and can't find any reference to it.



That is because there is very little going on there in the way of mongering. Most guys BYOB. Yeah this being the phils you can hook up anywhere, but Boracay is usually where you find more western, Korean and Japanese toutrists, along with a few well to do Phils.

If you want to get off with a few pros check into cocomangas shooters bar.
Loud, lots of noise, lots of insanity and a few freelancers working the crowd.
I was dancing with my wife, when she went to the ladies room the "pros" came by with "the look" or a few inviting words. Nothing I would pay for unless desparate.

Lots of resturaunts and hotels catering to foreigners, check the internet for bargains, but stay in Manila, Angles or come to Cebu for more variety.


Spamhog

[Spam Hog]

ANybody ever take the bus from Manila to Subic? where is the bus station in Manila, anything in Makati?

Thanks


Spamhog

[Gangles]

Mostly you catch the bus from manila to Olongopo, then go to Subic.

I use both Victory Liner and Five Star.

Both have trminals in Pasay on the EDSA.

Just ask the taxi to take you there.

As I recall, the fare is about 130 pesos, and it takes about 5 hours.

Good journey to you.

Gangles

[Spam Hog]

Mostly you catch the bus from manila to Olongopo, then go to Subic.

I use both Victory Liner and Five Star.

Both have trminals in Pasay on the EDSA.

Just ask the taxi to take you there.

As I recall, the fare is about 130 pesos, and it takes about 5 hours.

Good journey to you.

Gangles



Okay thanx


Spamhog

[Soapy Smith]

Which thread on here can I find Boracay? And available bars, women, etc? I've looked and can't find any reference to it.

Spam Hog and Sunchaser have given you good information on the Boracay scene. If you follow SC‘s link to Cocomangas, check out the “shooters” scores by country. It ought to tell you something when the Koreans’ score is more than three times as much as any other visiting country. In other words, lots of heavy drinking Koreans there. Korean men are heavy drinkers everywhere they go; it allows them to say things to each other that they’d never say when sober because they’d be rude by their cultural standards. Or in this case, maybe they’ve heard about their sexual prowess reputation in the Phils and figure that getting drunk first will help them last more than three minutes.

If you want to weigh other experiences, both those who bring their own and others who sample the pros, use the search tool on the blue toolbar. Set the key word search to “Boracay,” but do not search for a specific username. Set it to show reports rather than threads, set the time parameters from “a year ago” to “newer,” from most recent post in descending order, and, in the big box on the right side, make sure you search only in the Philippines thread, but allow subthreads. I did this and got 83 hits. Ignore the ones that offer only passing mention of Boracay; there are plenty of others that contain informative reports.

I have not been to Boracay, but here’s how I’d summarize what I’ve seen in posts on this forum and others. Numerous posts say it’s necessary to BYOG. Others say they have picked up very willing p4ps in one or another night club on Boracay. I’m inclined to believe the latter group, but I also assume they have a little more game than the pessimists – or maybe the pessimists are like Spam Hog and find the pros unattractive.

The pros here will generally be from Cebu, Manila, Angeles, or some other major mongering city, and since they’re in it as a business, and their travel overhead to Boracay is not cheap, you should expect to pay more than in other Phils destinations. Except maybe for the occasional late night pickup who’s been passed over by others and really needs a place to sleep.

I also recall reading that there are massage services there that offer extras, although your mileage may vary as to what services are available.

As to the BYOG strategy, make sure you have a truly willing and pleasant partner. I picked up a 20 year old at LA Café last August who told me she’d just gotten back from Boracay. She said she’d gone there with a Brit who promised to pay her something like 2000 PhP per day. But he wanted to go swimming, or snorkeling, or sailing during the day, and she didn’t, so stayed behind bored in the cabin or hotel room. It occurs to me she didn’t want to be seen in a bathing suit. She was petite, only about 4’10”, and when I met her she was wearing jeans and a smock. When I joined her in the shower, I was really surprised to find that her clothes had been concealing an oddly protruding little belly. She told me she’d gotten pregnant the prior Fall, miscarried, but never lost the bulge. Maybe. But I can’t rule out the possibility she was about four months preggers when I did her and when the Brit took her to Boracay. When I was in delicto with her, both mish and doggy, she kept trying to straighten out her legs and get my thighs outside hers. She faked noises as though this was supposedly especially pleasurable (definitely not for me), but I really think it was a ruse to make my penetration shallower. Obviously this doesn’t prove anything – I’ve been with other petite Pinays who were more straight-forward about wanting to limit the depth of penetration. Anyway, I didn’t want to dent the head of the fetus, so I obliged her about the penetration.

But either way, whether she had a bun in the oven, couldn’t swim, or was just a boring home body, she admitted to me she’d eventually pitched a bit** on the second day to get the guy to pay her way on an early flight back to Manila. Although she was only 20, she was a sexual mercenary. She pretty much told me so. The moral of the story: make sure you have an honest meeting of the minds with any woman you decide to take to Boracay or any other Philippine resort. I only hope the Brit found the nightclubs that other guys talk about and thoroughly exploited the opportunities there.

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[Spam Hog]

Name of a popular tagalog song the lyrics have to do with a girl who goes to Boracay,parties, goes wild and has sex, then heads home to be a 'good girl' again.

What limits your mongering in Boracay is the availability of the women and since there are accessibility problems, not much in the way of variety. Remember, it is not easy for the average girl to get there one usually has to take a plane, it is relatively prohibitively expensive (in Filipino terms) to travel there and to stay there very few "cheap" rooms available to average folks. Most of the Filipinia's you see either work there(Locals) or are well to do from a good family and not interested in a foreigner unless he is a movie star or some girl who is already with a foreigner.

It is a real status symbol to have gone to Boracay, it means you are wealthy and part of the Filipino "in' crowd. Girls will usually brag about the experience.

Now most of the "pros' I mentioned to have seen in my trips to BC were likely local girls. I have heard that a few of the neighboring islands organize a banca run and bring some of the locals girls ashore to make money during the busiest part of the tourist season and Cocomangas is one of the places they go, there are a few other adjacent bars (can't remember the name) where one can hang on the beach close enough to hear the music blaring from the band and dance without entering you can see a few people dancing on the beach.

But simply put, there is not much local talent that means not much choice.
As I said, the "pros" I saw were nothing special, a few had that beat out look that shabu heads get.

But I reiterate, this is the Phils and you never know when or where poon is going to drop into your lap. Yes, I have heard of guys bagging the waitresses or hotel clerks and who knows, one of those Manila "Mayaman" might get drunk enough and bold enough to try a foreigner. Of course one could also try for the flocks of Japanese or Korean cuties or even western back packer types that show up.

Skip gave some excellent advice about "test driving" a sleeping tour guide or companion that you want to take ANYWHERE not just Boracay.

When it comes down to it, Boracay is hit or miss, not like other areas where you would have to be a leper not to score due to the plethora of available women.


spamhog

[X Man]

Last time I researched, there is a ferry from Manila across the bay to the Bataan peninsula. Then you still have to bus a way to Subic. You avoid the temptations of AC altogether.

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news3_april27_2009


I've never done this, but I know the Spamhogs love adventure.

X


ANybody ever take the bus from Manila to Subic? where is the bus station in Manila, anything in Makati?

Thanks


Spamhog

[Gaijin Gigolo]

All, I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a short term apartment or condo in Manila, preferably near Malate/Ermita? I'll be staying there for about a week very soon and I just really dislike the hassle of checking my girl in at the desk and us being eyed up and down when passing through a lobby full of porters which seems to be the case at most hotels. Thanks in advance! GG

[Joh Kbay]

All, I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a short term apartment or condo in Manila, preferably near Malate/Ermita? I'll be staying there for about a week very soon and I just really dislike the hassle of checking my girl in at the desk and us being eyed up and down when passing through a lobby full of porters which seems to be the case at most hotels. Thanks in advance! GG I stayed at the Baywatch Tower for about eight days. I thought it was pretty good for the price. The security guys never gave me a hard time and always helped me flagged down a taxi for the girl. You can book online at their website or go to villarenters.com. I hope this information helps and have fun.

[Spam Hog]

All, I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a short term apartment or condo in Manila, preferably near Malate/Ermita? I'll be staying there for about a week very soon and I just really dislike the hassle of checking my girl in at the desk and us being eyed up and down when passing through a lobby full of porters which seems to be the case at most hotels. Thanks in advance! GG




Check out the Makati tower suites, very reasonable

www.asiatravel.com/philippines/primetower/index.html

Never stayed there but I will be next week.


Spamhog

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Joh, SpamHog, thanks much. Will check 'em both out.

[Questner]

I just returned from my recent trip to the Philippines. Please see the first part in Angeles City section. I stayed at Executive Plaza Hotel in Ermita. The location is very good. It’s near Robinson Mall and La Café. 7-11 and BDO ATM is nearby. Taxi to EDSA is around 60-120 peso. No questions asked, no joiner fees, nada. At the same time accommodations are pretty basic. The hotel is good value but I suggest finding more spacious and modern one.

La Café is nearby with nightly live band. Staff is friendly and fun, food is fine and music is great on occasion but other than that the place is going downhill. There is a scarce choice of weird girls, aging beauties, unemployed and pissed fuckups. Eventually I picked up one girl just for the sport and she proved to be nothing special. There is also a ridiculous as if difference between the ground and the first floor girls. The ground ones ask 1,500 and the first ones ask 4,000. What a joke. There is a 100 entry fee to the first floor. I have not paid it. My advice is not plan to find your gem there, if you see no one just take a cab to EDSA.

EDSA is open 6-7 pm to 3-4 am. No cameras are allowed. Cotton Club is in poor shape. Firehouse is your best bet. Unfortunately the management does not allow girls to take black boots with them. In Firehouse I have found at least 20 percent of girls to be bar finable which is a lot in my view. Met two lovely girls there with 2,500 tips to each of them and was very pleased. Girls do monthly check ups at the clinic which is inside EDSA and also pass a check up and clean up after each client they see. So with EDSA over La Café at the cost of extra $30 you get a way better girl of proven age and health. Consider it to be your insurance policy. There are six mamasans at Firehouse and they all hit you for drinks. One mamasan told me that girls expect a tip of 500 pesos for 3 hours. At the same time it is up to them and they request 2,500 ST and 4,000 LT over a bar fine. Now, Firehouse does not split bar fines with girls. It charges them daily around 150 pesos for shoes, lingerie and cosmetics. Each girl gets a release voucher when she leaves.

Same as Bangkok over Pattaya and Manila over Angeles city the fun costs simply double and the double up is not worth it. One of the girls has told me that class “A” hookers can be seen at the disco Embassy club at the Fort (Bonifacio High Street) where the charge goes up to 10K. I wonder what I can get in Philippines for that price.

[Escort Fan]

Met two lovely girls there with 2, 500 tips to each of them and was very pleased. Girls do monthly check ups at the clinic which is inside EDSA and also pass a check up and clean up after each client they see. So with EDSA over La Café at the cost of extra $30 you get a way better girl of proven age and health. Consider it to be your insurance policy.sounds nice if the check are serious! Are those girls going "covered" or not?

Just checking what's the standard is in EDSA. In angeles I found that most girls consider BB an the norm and condom as an exception.

In LA Café most girls seems to insist on condom. (even though I imagine if you offer 1K pesos extra you can obtain BB but I didn't try it), so what's the standard at EDSA, always covered, covered but can uncover with a tip, or up to client (angeles way).

If the girls are check after each client, I guess management is suspicious about the girls following security protocols.

[Dogs Body]

There are any number of traveler reports about this hotel on regular traveler sites and they are almost uniformly negative. Even hysterical.
Insect infestation. Microscopic rooms. Two snail like elevators. Bad service.

For some reason, they even complain about the location in a red light district, this hotels main redeeming feature.
Discalaimer: I have not stayed at this hotel.

[Warbucks]

There are any number of traveler reports about this hotel on regular traveler sites and they are almost uniformly negative. Even hysterical.
Insect infestation. Microscopic rooms. Two snail like elevators. Bad service.

For some reason, they even complain about the location in a red light district, this hotels main redeeming feature.
Discalaimer: I have not stayed at this hotel.

Wrong thread bruh go here...

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2505

[Warbucks]

La Café is nearby with nightly live band. Staff is friendly and fun, food is fine and music is great on occasion but other than that the place is going downhill. There is a scarce choice of weird girls, aging beauties, unemployed and pissed fuckups. Eventually I picked up one girl just for the sport and she proved to be nothing special. There is also a ridiculous as if difference between the ground and the first floor girls. The ground ones ask 1,500 and the first ones ask 4,000. What a joke. There is a 100 entry fee to the first floor. I have not paid it. My advice is not plan to find your gem there, if you see no one just take a cab to EDSA.

EDSA is open 6-7 pm to 3-4 am. No cameras are allowed. Cotton Club is in poor shape. Firehouse is your best bet. Unfortunately the management does not allow girls to take black boots with them. In Firehouse I have found at least 20 percent of girls to be bar finable which is a lot in my view. Met two lovely girls there with 2,500 tips to each of them and was very pleased. Girls do monthly check ups at the clinic which is inside EDSA and also pass a check up and clean up after each client they see. So with EDSA over La Café at the cost of extra $30 you get a way better girl of proven age and health. Consider it to be your insurance policy. There are six mamasans at Firehouse and they all hit you for drinks. One mamasan told me that girls expect a tip of 500 pesos for 3 hours. At the same time it is up to them and they request 2,500 ST and 4,000 LT over a bar fine. Now, Firehouse does not split bar fines with girls. It charges them daily around 150 pesos for shoes, lingerie and cosmetics. Each girl gets a release voucher when she leaves.



Nice Report. Yeah the talent in LA is marginal at best but you can’t beat the prices I guess. I like Burgos and EDSA better though.

[Soapy Smith]

So with EDSA over La Café at the cost of extra $30 you get a way better girl of proven age and health.

Could we get you to recheck your math? If you pay 1500 PhP for short time at LA, and at EDSA you pay the girl 2500 PhP, that's a difference of $20. So for the difference to be only $30, the barfine would have to be only 1000 PhP. I'm thinking most recent reports have set the barfine a little higher than that.

In terms of LA "going downhill," have you made other visits there in the past so that you have some basis for comparison? The place is dark, noisy, and smokey, often (but not always) crowded, and most would agree with you that it's necessary to get past some unattractive women to find a keeper. The food isn't particularly good, and, as some of the girls report, you can get sick if your drink has ice cubes in it, because they use tap water. The solution to that is to order only drinks that come in a bottle.

But I'd sooner believe that LA Cafe is simply in a perpetual state of nastiness rather than going downhill. I was last there in August 2008, and before that in April 2007. I didn't see much difference in the intervening 16 months. If anything, there were more women there in August 08 than 16 months earlier, with about the same percentage of undesirables.

I am inclined to say that reports of the demise of LA Cafe, which show up on the board from time to time, are overstated. Many frequent and long-standing patrons will tell you that the numbers and quality of available takeaways vary considerably from day to day and even over the span of an hour.

I'd welcome a report with conclusive evidence to the contrary.

Skip

[Sol111]

Have had visits to Manila April 09, July 08, and June 07. Prices at LA Cafe, whether up or downstairs, are the same for me. I make the same offer to most every girl. She often asks for more, but quickly comes around or walks. The offer is p1500 ST and 2000 LT. Never more. Never misses. G-Point, not far away, same. Many girls dont even mention money. Never had one balk at 2000 + taxi the next day. I do go thru a list of particulars at the bar before taking her. Some girls cant/wont, and walk away. Some ask for more, one asked for 4000, came around to 2000, and ended up having breakfast with me. About 1/3 of girls wont go away the next day. Haven't been to the EDSA complex yet.

[Cunning Stunt]

I am inclined to say that reports of the demise of LA Cafe, which show up on the board from time to time, are overstated. Many frequent and long-standing patrons will tell you that the numbers and quality of available takeaways vary considerably from day to day and even over the span of an hour.

I'd welcome a report with conclusive evidence to the contrary.

Skip

As a relatively frequent visitor over a fairly lengthy period, I more or less decide that the place is in terminal decline on every visit and vow to steer well clear in future. And then I find yet another lovely young hottie there (who invariably tell me it is their first or second visit and I always believe them:o) and I'm hooked again.

Like you say its all a matter of unknowable timing. You can visit and find the place like the rejects corner in the ugly mongrels section at Crufts. Yet leave, get some much needed fresher air (not fresh - you are in Manila remember) and return a few hours later and the place has changed not one whit. Still the same tired old harridans chasing harassed looking punters. But wait - this time there are a few fresh faced, nice looking potentials hiding in the corner near the gents WC or at the big mirrors, tarting themselves up. And off you go again.

What annoys me most is the inflated prices caused by the barbarian Koreans (X Man words) or free spending western mongers. Not so long ago you could have any girl on the joint for P1000 ST or P1500 LT. Now only the desperate will go for that price.

[Sammon]

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]As a relatively frequent visitor over a fairly lengthy period, I more or less decide that the place is in terminal decline on every visit and vow to steer well clear in future. And then I find yet another lovely young hottie there (who invariably tell me it is their first or second visit and I always believe them:o) and I'm hooked again.

Like you say its all a matter of unknowable timing. You can visit and find the place like the rejects corner in the ugly mongrels section at Crufts. Yet leave, get some much needed fresher air (not fresh - you are in Manila remember) and return a few hours later and the place has changed not one whit. Still the same tired old harridans chasing harassed looking punters. But wait - this time there are a few fresh faced, nice looking potentials hiding in the corner near the gents WC or at the big mirrors, tarting themselves up. And off you go again.

What annoys me most is the inflated prices caused by the barbarian Koreans (X Man words) or free spending western mongers. Not so long ago you could have any girl on the joint for P1000 ST or P1500 LT. Now only the desperate will go for that price.[/Q
I am in manila and have gone to La cafe few times. The problem is decent looking young girls seem to have their nose up in the air because they know all the rest are regular hogs. They have preference for koreans and japanese and will not readily lower the price unless it is late or they are desperate. I have seen some good looking girls come in and were swapped up right away. This does not happen in EDSA. You can sit down,relax, have a beer, make your choice,flirt around, negotiate and take the girl.
Ofcourse EDSA girl will cost approx 4500 pesos with drinks, barfine and min 2500 LT for the girl.
La cafe good looking young girls will cost 2500 LT and you do not need to buy her drinks. Can get 2000 LT sometimes with average girl. But most of the girls in LA cafe are over the hill in P4P terms and have one or more children. I have not seen any young college girls who used to stop in there before. Maybe there is some other spot they go to because of LA cafe reputation.

[Lenience]

But most of the girls in LA cafe are over the hill in P4P terms and have one or more children. I have not seen any young college girls who used to stop in there before. Maybe there is some other spot they go to because of LA cafe reputation.

Many are now going up the street to G-point. I even heard that there was a mass exodus a few weeks ago because of a fight over a customer at LA.

G-point is a good place for friendly freelancers, not pushy or crowded. True, many are "over the hill" but that's all relative, isn't it? I found the older ones give a real GFE, and can be a lot more fun, but there are plenty of youngsters there later at night for the band, which is usually great BTW. And nobody balks at 1K ST/2K LT.

[Questner]

sounds nice if the check are serious! Are those girls going "covered" or not?

Just checking what's the standard is in EDSA. In angeles I found that most girls consider BB an the norm and condom as an exception.

In LA Café most girls seems to insist on condom. (even though I imagine if you offer 1K pesos extra you can obtain BB but I didn't try it), so what's the standard at EDSA, always covered, covered but can uncover with a tip, or up to client (angeles way).

If the girls are check after each client, I guess management is suspicious about the girls following security protocols.

Irrelevant of the place in the world or what girls like or used to I have two rules set in stone:
1. I don't go with a girl if I'm afraid of BBBJ and BJ is BBBJ.
2. Vaginal and anal covered only.

Now there are nasty things against condoms are useless like crabs, scabies etc. And remember that girls are an investment for the management and get their EWR irrelevant of how much tips girls earned.

[Questner]

Could we get you to recheck your math? If you pay 1500 PhP for short time at LA, and at EDSA you pay the girl 2500 PhP, that's a difference of $20. So for the difference to be only $30, the barfine would have to be only 1000 PhP. I'm thinking most recent reports have set the barfine a little higher than that.

In terms of LA "going downhill," have you made other visits there in the past so that you have some basis for comparison? The place is dark, noisy, and smokey, often (but not always) crowded, and most would agree with you that it's necessary to get past some unattractive women to find a keeper. The food isn't particularly good, and, as some of the girls report, you can get sick if your drink has ice cubes in it, because they use tap water. The solution to that is to order only drinks that come in a bottle.

But I'd sooner believe that LA Cafe is simply in a perpetual state of nastiness rather than going downhill. I was last there in August 2008, and before that in April 2007. I didn't see much difference in the intervening 16 months. If anything, there were more women there in August 08 than 16 months earlier, with about the same percentage of undesirables.

I am inclined to say that reports of the demise of LA Cafe, which show up on the board from time to time, are overstated. Many frequent and long-standing patrons will tell you that the numbers and quality of available takeaways vary considerably from day to day and even over the span of an hour.

I'd welcome a report with conclusive evidence to the contrary.

Skip


My last barfine at EDSA was like 1,400 pesos. Plus one drink for myself, one for the girl and one for mamasan.
Yes, you are right: I have no right to compare what was in the past. I am a good reader. Try to wash your hands on a first floor. Try to order mango juice and take a look how it is done.

[Danokfan]

Nice Report. Yeah the talent in LA is marginal at best but you can’t beat the prices I guess. I like Burgos and EDSA better though.I'm going to Manila soon, could anybody tell me the address of those places?Any other massage/pool bar/girls bar interesting in the city?

TQ

[Viajando Musico]

One of the girls has told me that class “A” hookers can be seen at the disco Embassy club at the Fort (Bonifacio High Street) where the charge goes up to 10K. I wonder what I can get in Philippines for that price.

Embassy in Fort Bonifacio is a high end disco club for the spoiled rich brats. Many are from the near by villages like Dasmarinas, Forbs Park North and South. This is not a hooker bar. I don’t know if you can find working girls there, and if you are not a young stud with games, your chance to score there is very slim.

[Finrod]

Embassy in Fort Bonifacio is a high end disco club for the spoiled rich brats. Many are from the near by villages like Dasmarinas, Forbs Park North and South. This is not a hooker bar. I don’t know if you can find working girls there, and if you are not a young stud with games, your chance to score there is very slim.
I have been to Embassy, also to the place next to it (can't remember the name). Both are populated by young filipinos with money. I agree it's not a hooker bar. If there were working girls there, they were brought there by someone. I didn't see any girls that I thought might have been working girls. The admission was 600 pesos at the time. Dunno if it's higher now, but think of who can afford to pay 600 pesos just to get in. Plus drinks. I'm not bad looking for my age, but the girls were way too surrounded by good looking young pinoys to pay much attention to older guys. At least at Embassy, I brought my own (she and her friend were not working girls). I was at the other place with a local friend and his gf.

If you want higher class, better looking hookers in nightclubs, go to the high end KTVs like East Asian Entertainment on Roxas near EDSA (I've been there) or try those places in Quezon City described in the QC thread (I've not been to any of them). This is assuming, of course, that you have money to burn.

There's a large disco in Pasay called Nirvana that I've been to. Admission there is 250 pesos which is not so bad. If you're there with several locals (as I was), a good deal is to get the barrel of beer, that will keep them occupied for awhile and is cheap. Was too busy partying with the locals to tell if there were working girls there, but given the location and the cheaper admission, I'm sure the older soloist could find some company in there.

[Spam Hog]

Any Manila board members who have a permanenet or semi permanent address, I would like a PM regarding temporary use for a mail drop. Worth a
few thousand pesos, nothing illegal.


Thanx


Spamhog

[Cunning Stunt]

Paid one of my increasingly infrequent visits to LA Café over the weekend and found a real winner – and I mean a star!! A 19 year old, 4’ 11”, 90 pound Samartian girl, she was a ‘sure’ girl. Everything I asked her to do – the reply was the same – ‘sure’. She was such a fun girl – didn’t jump up and get dressed after the agreed 2nd pop, but stayed and chatted and cuddled until she eventually coaxed a fantastic third out of me. It takes a really special girl to do that, these days, over a short session, not withstanding her devotion to duty:D.

Astonishing thing, considering her youth, was her oral talents. She said that she learned it for a Filipino boyfriend, but she gave the most incredible, knee trembling BJ with amazing …cue drum roll….deep throat technique. Best I’ve ever encountered in The Philippines, and I’ve had one or two;).

This is why, despite the place and the area being the pits, the LA Café is still Numero Uno for freelance talent. Never fails to surprise as to what you can find there.

I’m interested to know if anyone else has encountered J____. I don’t need to describe her in any more detail – you will remember her if you have been with her!!

[FreebieFan]

recently found in craigs lisst. always good to know when they will go the extra mile.

i'm assuming their extra mile definition is the same as mine

"female massage therapist needed for new high end massage service.

if you do not have experience we can teach you. all you need is to attend. we will teach swedish, thai, shiatsu and tantric.

however, you have to be pretty, young and energetic. also no qualms of rendering the extra mile of service to satisfy clients.

if interested. send us your resume, photo (full and face), contact number (must have working cellphone)

hurry few post open

knowledge in wet thai and tantra would be an advantage or we can train you.

housing will be provided.

location: metro manila
compensation: cash daily
this is a part-time job.
this is a contract job.
this is an internship job "

[Docwiltro]

I'm going to Manila soon, could anybody tell me the address of those places?Any other massage/pool bar/girls bar interesting in the city?

TQThe EDSA Entertainment Complex is basically at the intersection of Roxas Blvd. and Epifano Delos Santos Avenue (or EDSA.) Check out the map (find EDSA Bars) within the following link.

http://www.singletravel.com/phil_faq2/manilamap.jpg

LA Cafe is located at 1429 M.H. del Pilar which at the corner of del Pilar and Romero Salas St.

Another freelancer joint is G-Point which is located about 4 blocks away at 510 Padre Faura St. Check out the link.

http://www.gpointmanila.com/contact.html

Also, I am attaching a couple of maps: one, of the Ermita area and the other, of the corner of Roxas Blvd. and EDSA.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115321&stc=1

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115322&stc=1

[Big Poppa II]

Hello fellows:

First I want to thank everyone for so much information regarding fun in The Philippines. I’ve been reading for sometime now and it seems to me that I have to definitely visit LA Café, no visit to Manila would be complete otherwise. I also want to visit EDSA.

I’ll be in Manila in a week and I’m confused about EDSA, looking at maps I see that EDSA is a street. I was told that I have to stay at the Shangri-La in EDSA. Then, I saw that EDSA is very popular in the forum so I was very happy. I am not sure as to where the places everyone talks about are, it seems to me that the EDSA complex is near the airport. Could someone clarify that please? I am interested in Firehouse and others in the vicinity.

Another point is that I’ll be working at night. Reading the forum it seems to me that things go on pretty late, but even is I leave early I don’t think I could make it before 6:00AM. Does anyone know if that would still be OK?

Thanks again for all the good info, I’ll keep reading but will appreciate some advice.

Thanks, BP

[Mr Hawaii]

[QUOTE=Big Poppa II]Hello fellows:

First I want to thank everyone for so much information regarding fun in The Philippines. I’ve been reading for sometime now and it seems to me that I have to definitely visit LA Café, no visit to Manila would be complete otherwise. I also want to visit EDSA.

I’ll be in Manila in a week and I’m confused about EDSA, looking at maps I see that EDSA is a street. I was told that I have to stay at the Shangri-La in EDSA. Then, I saw that EDSA is very popular in the forum so I was very happy. I am not sure as to where the places everyone talks about are, it seems to me that the EDSA complex is near the airport. Could someone clarify that please? I am interested in Firehouse and others in the vicinity.




EDSA is an acronym, stands for someone's name, you can google it..is a long highway. Anyway, you tell the taxi driver you want the "Firehouse at EDSA extension, across from Heritage Hotel." If they don't know where it is, get out of the taxi and get another taxi. You can also pick up a map of Manila, sold at most USA bookstores (if you are in USA), and find a lot of places, or buy Lonely Planet travel guide and find it in there. Hope that helps. HAVE FUN.

[Sammon]

[QUOTE=Big Poppa II]Hello fellows:

First I want to thank everyone for so much information regarding fun in The Philippines. I’ve been reading for sometime now and it seems to me that I have to definitely visit LA Café, no visit to Manila would be complete otherwise. I also want to visit EDSA.

I’ll be in Manila in a week and I’m confused about EDSA, looking at maps I see that EDSA is a street. I was told that I have to stay at the Shangri-La in EDSA. Then, I saw that EDSA is very popular in the forum so I was very happy. I am not sure as to where the places everyone talks about are, it seems to me that the EDSA complex is near the airport. Could someone clarify that please? I am interested in Firehouse and others in the vicinity.

EDSA is a long and twisting avenue. What you want is EDSA entertainment complex which is across from heritage hotel. If the taxi driver does not know, ask to go to Heroitage Hotel and walk across overbridge.


EDSA is an acronym, stands for someone's name, you can google it..is a long highway. Anyway, you tell the taxi driver you want the "Firehouse at EDSA extension, across from Heritage Hotel." If they don't know where it is, get out of the taxi and get another taxi. You can also pick up a map of Manila, sold at most USA bookstores (if you are in USA), and find a lot of places, or buy Lonely Planet travel guide and find it in there. Hope that helps. HAVE FUN.

[Big Poppa II]

Thank you all for the help.

Hopefully I'll have something to report upon my return.

BP

[Soapy Smith]

I’ll be in Manila in a week and I’m confused about EDSA, looking at maps I see that EDSA is a street. I was told that I have to stay at the Shangri-La in EDSA. Then, I saw that EDSA is very popular in the forum so I was very happy. I am not sure as to where the places everyone talks about are, it seems to me that the EDSA complex is near the airport. Could someone clarify that please? I am interested in Firehouse and others in the vicinity.

Another point is that I’ll be working at night. Reading the forum it seems to me that things go on pretty late, but even is I leave early I don’t think I could make it before 6:00AM. Does anyone know if that would still be OK?

Thanks, BP

Mr. H gave you accurate information. Here's a little more. The Shangri-La is in the Makati area, a few blocks from Epifanio Delos Santos Avenue (EDSA), the highway. The EDSA entertainment complex is West of there, near the intersection of EDSA and Harrison, in Pasay City. If the taxi driver doesn't know the EDSA entertainment complex, tell him to take you to the intersection of EDSA and Harrison. If he doesn't know that, he's not from Manila; get rid of him. It is, as Mr. H pointed out, across EDSA from the Heritage hotel. The Heritage is on the South side of EDSA (nearer the airport); EDSA complex is on the North side.

The entrance to the EDSA complex is just a couple of doors and a few concrete steps. You'll know it's the place because of taxis and touts standing outside offering to introduce you to all sorts of vices. Ignore them and walk through the doors like you already know the place. Inside there are various clubs opening into a big open area in the middle. Doormen at the various clubs and/or women at the doors will try to coax you in. Various detailed reports have been offered about some of the individual clubs.

EDSA complex is not open all night. I've only been there in the early evening, so can't tell you how late it closes or how early it opens. The LA Cafe is open 24 hours, rain or shine, and there are usually pay4play independents there at all hours. You can sometimes get some real bargains there at 6 am, since girls who work at EDSA or on Burgos Ave. in Makati sometimes go there after their own bars close if they have not been barfined at their usual bars. But do be on the lookout for drunks and druggies in LA in the early morning hours. Make sure to engage them in conversation long enough to figure out whether you're getting somebody who's more or less sober.

If you go to LA, you will need a taxi back to the Shangri-La. Some recommend avoiding the taxis right in front of LA. Instead go straight out of LA and continue ahead one block on Romero-Salas to the 7-11 at the corner of Mabini, and get your taxi there. Other people turn right out the door of LA and go about a block and a half on Romero-Salas the other direction (toward Manila Bay) until you get to Roxas Boulevard or its frontage road, and wave down a cab there.

Enjoy. Skip

[Redfield10]

I wouldn't walk far from LA Cafe. It's a horrible area. I was robbed by 4 thugs. And from what I now here, lucky I didn't resist at all.

I'm not old; I'm in shape'; I wasn't drunk. They just decided to forcefully rob me.

You've been warned. There's folks on here who swear the area around there is as safe as your living room.

It's not.


Thank you all for the help.

Hopefully I'll have something to report upon my return.

BP

[FreebieFan]

The entrance to the EDSA complex is just a couple of doors and a few concrete steps. You'll know it's the place because of taxis and touts standing outside offering to introduce you to all sorts of vices.

EDSA complex is not open all night. I've only been there in the early evening, so can't tell you how late it closes or how early it opens. Make sure to engage them in conversation long enough to figure out whether you're getting somebody who's more or less sober.

Ifand go about a block and a half on Romero-Salas the other direction (toward Manila Bay) until you get to Roxas Boulevard or its frontage road, and wave down a cab there.

Enjoy. SkipEdsa Entertainment opens at about 6..at that time girls are eating in the little area outside the bars but bars only realy get going after 6.30.

On a sunday I think they open about 4... or at least used to when I was in that area.

[Rugmunch]

Actually there are two Shagrila hotels. Shagrila Makati on the corner of Ayala Ave and Makati Ave. This is the one closer to the EDSA entertainment center. And the EDSA Shagrila which is actually in Ortigas Center, Pasig near the SM MegaMall, which depending on traffic can be over an hour away from the EDSA entertainment center. Late at night (after 1-2am) it can be pretty quick though, say 20-30 min.

[X Man]

Is this something new? Can anyone confirm?

It's been a while since I went to EDSA, but my alcohol-addled memory says 8pm is the opening time.

X


Edsa Entertainment opens at about 6..at that time girls are eating in the little area outside the bars but bars only realy get going after 6.30.

On a sunday I think they open about 4... or at least used to when I was in that area.

[Key Master]

I wouldn't walk far from LA Cafe. It's a horrible area. I was robbed by 4 thugs. And from what I now here, lucky I didn't resist at all.

I'm not old; I'm in shape'; I wasn't drunk. They just decided to forcefully rob me.

You've been warned. There's folks on here who swear the area around there is as safe as your living room.

It's not.

It's been mentioned before this whole incident that this area is seedy and that there are a lot of poor people on the streets there. For someone who keeps on harping on what seems to be a fluke of bad luck, I wonder why he seems surprised that this could happen when this area has been talked about before. If you had done your research, you knew that the possibility was there that petty crime could happen and it did. Violently robbed has been used quite a bit to describe this incident, but we still don't know the details of what type of violence. I think it would help the people on this board if you could describe in detail exactly how it all transpired, not just saying you were violently robbed. How so? Was there a knife to your neck, or a gun to your head, or were you knocked down to the ground and pinned? That would be violent.

For newbies looking for information, please don't take that everyone here who is talking know's what they are talking about or whatever someone says is 100% correct. You don't have to take my word for it, but really there are some people here who think they know but they don't. It's not always easy to see who does or doesn't. Posts count or the title of "Senior Member" is not a shoe in that the person can be of assistance to you. You can look back at what someone posts to get an ideal sometimes.

Now going back to the Ermita/Malate area. As mentioned this area is a little dodgy. If you are truly new to the third world scene and traveling, it's probably not the best place to get your feet wet. It's dark at night and there are poor people on the streets. Sometimes a little pack of kids will come up to you at the same time and paw at you, while one tries to pickpocket you. Lots of beggars here also. If you can't handle this sort of thing, I suggest you not bother coming here. In the PI there are lots of poor people here. The information is here to read. There are lots of posts, you just have to take the time to read through them to get more than just the gist.

I have never heard someone say it's as safe as your living room in the Ermita/Malate area. It's pretty obvious if you are paying attention when you walk around. What would you think of someone I took the time out to answer private messages to where I was very detailed in my answers and then answer even more questions in regards to it and then see that he private messaged many other members the same questions and also asked the same questions on multiple threads as if it was so urgent? Some might think something is not right. If someone is like that, PI is probably not a good fit for them.

[Lushington]

It's been mentioned before this whole incident that this area is seedy and that there are a lot of poor people on the streets there. For someone who keeps on harping on what seems to be a fluke of bad luck, I wonder why he seems surprised that this could happen when this area has been talked about before. If you had done your research, you knew that the possibility was there that petty crime could happen and it did. Violently robbed has been used quite a bit to describe this incident, but we still don't know the details of what type of violence. I think it would help the people on this board if you could describe in detail exactly how it all transpired, not just saying you were violently robbed. How so? Was there a knife to your neck, or a gun to your head, or were you knocked down to the ground and pinned? That would be violent.

For newbies looking for information, please don't take that everyone here who is talking know's what they are talking about or whatever someone says is 100% correct. You don't have to take my word for it, but really there are some people here who think they know but they don't. It's not always easy to see who does or doesn't. Posts count or the title of "Senior Member" is not a shoe in that the person can be of assistance to you. You can look back at what someone posts to get an ideal sometimes.

Now going back to the Ermita/Malate area. As mentioned this area is a little dodgy. If you are truly new to the third world scene and traveling, it's probably not the best place to get your feet wet. It's dark at night and there are poor people on the streets. Sometimes a little pack of kids will come up to you at the same time and paw at you, while one tries to pickpocket you. Lots of beggars here also. If you can't handle this sort of thing, I suggest you not bother coming here. In the PI there are lots of poor people here. The information is here to read. There are lots of posts, you just have to take the time to read through them to get more than just the gist.

I have never heard someone say it's as safe as your living room in the Ermita/Malate area. It's pretty obvious if you are paying attention when you walk around. What would you think of someone I took the time out to answer private messages to where I was very detailed in my answers and then answer even more questions in regards to it and then see that he private messaged many other members the same questions and also asked the same questions on multiple threads as if it was so urgent? Some might think something is not right. If someone is like that, PI is probably not a good fit for them.In 30 years of mongering (at night and business during the day) I have NEVER had any problems whatsoever!

The worst was my own fault and while walking back to Thr Rotman Hotel (I Think) I fell (as is easy to do on those sidewalks) and broke my fall with the palm of my hand and (as luck would have it) I cut it on some glass in the small ditch!

I Australia I could have sued the local council, but in Manila you're on your own! Luckily I was with a customer of mine and all ended well!

[Sammon]

It's been mentioned before this whole incident that this area is seedy and that there are a lot of poor people on the streets there. For someone who keeps on harping on what seems to be a fluke of bad luck, I wonder why he seems surprised that this could happen when this area has been talked about before. If you had done your research, you knew that the possibility was there that petty crime could happen and it did. Violently robbed has been used quite a bit to describe this incident, but we still don't know the details of what type of violence. I think it would help the people on this board if you could describe in detail exactly how it all transpired, not just saying you were violently robbed. How so? Was there a knife to your neck, or a gun to your head, or were you knocked down to the ground and pinned? That would be violent.

For newbies looking for information, please don't take that everyone here who is talking know's what they are talking about or whatever someone says is 100% correct. You don't have to take my word for it, but really there are some people here who think they know but they don't. It's not always easy to see who does or doesn't. Posts count or the title of "Senior Member" is not a shoe in that the person can be of assistance to you. You can look back at what someone posts to get an ideal sometimes.

Now going back to the Ermita/Malate area. As mentioned this area is a little dodgy. If you are truly new to the third world scene and traveling, it's probably not the best place to get your feet wet. It's dark at night and there are poor people on the streets. Sometimes a little pack of kids will come up to you at the same time and paw at you, while one tries to pickpocket you. Lots of beggars here also. If you can't handle this sort of thing, I suggest you not bother coming here. In the PI there are lots of poor people here. The information is here to read. There are lots of posts, you just have to take the time to read through them to get more than just the gist.

I have never heard someone say it's as safe as your living room in the Ermita/Malate area. It's pretty obvious if you are paying attention when you walk around. What would you think of someone I took the time out to answer private messages to where I was very detailed in my answers and then answer even more questions in regards to it and then see that he private messaged many other members the same questions and also asked the same questions on multiple threads as if it was so urgent? Some might think something is not right. If someone is like that, PI is probably not a good fit for them.

Tips to avoid being robbed around LA cafe
1. Do not overdress. LA cafe is a casual place.
2. Do not flash money, jewellery etc.
3. Do not walk on the side streets later at night. Stick to main roads.
Manila being a big city there are always many people walking on major
roads. It is unlikely somebody will try to rob you when there are many
people around.
4. Carry some coins so that you can get rid of some children right away
rather than they cling on to you. Gives them more time to feel your
pockets.
5. Carry only 1000-1200 pesos. That is all needed to spend some time
in LA cafe. No barfine to pay. Never carry wallet or foreign currency.
6. If you see the street is deserted wait till some people are walking
before you proceed.
7. If you are kind of drunk pick a girl and walk with her. You reasonably safe
if you are with a local girl unless she is in on it. Besiodes the girl does
not want to loose her money.
8. Most important is just ignore all the shady characters who try to talk to
you .
9. Avoid walking alone on the street bet 2 am - 4 am. That is when the
robbers tend to target people.
10. I know this has been said many times. Never get a taxi in front of
LA cafe. Walk one block to mabini and hail a cruising taxi.

[X Man]

X Man's survival tactics.

Walk quick and with purpose, even if you're lost. Especially if you're lost.

Look dodgy people in the eye. Don't smile unless it is you've perfected Heath Ledger's Joker smile.

Don't give kids change, you create an exponentially growing problem. If you must give them something, give them a snack you got at the convenience store. Throw the snack in front of fast moving traffic.

If trapped in a potentially dangerous situation, start snorting, eyes rolling, spastic movements. You'll scare most people away. And the the meth freaks, they'll think you are one of their own. This also works on Tokyo trains. People will get up and move, you can lay down if you want. Anyway, back to MNL.

Don't shave -- looking scary is good. Don't wear jewelry. Don't walk around like a chickenshit.

And always wear plaid. It seems to incite those pale looking British folks, even though it scares away Fil. criminals.

X

[FreebieFan]

Is this something new? Can anyone confirm?

It's been a while since I went to EDSA, but my alcohol-addled memory says 8pm is the opening time.

Xdrive past at 4pm and you will see the dleiveries being made. Drive past at 6 and you will see the lights on and girls going in.

I'm often exiting the Sogo at that time and enjoy watching the chickas crossing EDSA, knowing where they are going to work.

[Cunning Stunt]

don't give kids change, you create an exponentially growing problem. if you must give them something, give them a snack you got at the convenience store. throw the snack in front of fast moving traffic.x

sounds similar to the methods used by the brazilian police to eradicate their street kid problem. except in their case it’s speeding lead, rather than a fast moving car (which is difficult to find in urban manila, anyway):d.




and always wear plaid. it seems to incite those pale looking british folks, even though it scares away fil. criminals.x

plaid as a bad guy deterrent. brilliant!! should have known – the scottish have been using it for this very purpose for centuries; it used to scare the hell out of the germans in the first world war. if all else fails and the crims invade your space, you could then continue the jockinese theme by trying a ‘glasgow kiss’;).

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glasgow+kiss

[Spam Hog]

on a recent trip to manila, i noticed the number of vendors and street touts who were persistient like never before. i left my makati prime towers and walked down burgos street past the "ringside" lady boxing bar midgets were featured that night and i am sorry mrs spamhog and i had to be on a plane or we wouldn't have missed it for the world.

just going to the 7/11 created a whole entorurage of characters trying to sell me viagra, swords, watches, sunglasses and x rated tapes. i didn't like at all how these jokers seemed to swarm and block my passage, even when i shouted in tagalog and visayan so they knew i was no tourista, took some maneuvering to get by, when i ducked into 7/11 i noticed the shark pack waited outside. i was careful to hand over only small bills to the cashier.

then it was outside again to run the gauntlet. any fool who got too frisky would have gotten a face full of 7/11 scalding coffee.

but my general strategy is to move fast, never stop and be aware of where they are. if cornered, i throw down my "polish bank roll" rep001tering small bills and while they scramble i do the heel and toe.

remember, you can pop into any building, most have a guard and the guard will not let those mope's inside. they will protect you and they will any group for a small fee, for all intents and purposes, they are the law on the premises and the sidewalk in front.

never had to do it but always have a plan.....


spamhog

[Devils 1]

[QUOTE=Big Poppa II]I’ll be in Manila in a week and I’m confused about EDSA, looking at maps I see that EDSA is a street. I was told that I have to stay at the Shangri-La in EDSA. Then, I saw that EDSA is very popular in the forum so I was very happy. I am not sure as to where the places everyone talks about are, it seems to me that the EDSA complex is near the airport. Could someone clarify that please? I am interested in Firehouse and others in the vicinity.Yes EDSA is a "freeway" to use the term loosely because traffic never flows smoothly on it.

But you are looking for the EDSA entertainment complex. As mentioned it is very non-descript from the outside, but all of that does not matter because all you need to do is get in a taxi and say "take me to the EDSA entertainment complex" Every taxi knows where it is because it is very popular with foreigners.

Be prepared for the old standard "I don't know where it is, but I will take you to a better place." So the better way to do it is stick your head in the taxi before entering and ask if he knows how to get there. If he waivers even a little then slam the door and go to the next taxi.

Also, do not stay at a hotel in EDSA, only stay in Makati or Ermita! I assume you are going to Manila strictly for mongering? These are the best places for this.

[AmericanThief]

This makes me not want to go. I booked my ticket already, but it sounds worse than Vietnam. I guess I should grab the first Girl and head straight to Boracay.

[FreebieFan]

sounds similar to the methods used by the brazilian police to eradicate their street kid problem. except in their case it’s speeding lead, rather than a fast moving car (which is difficult to find in urban manila, anyway):d.

plaid as a bad guy deterrent. brilliant!! should have known – the scottish have been using it for this very purpose for centuries; it used to scare the hell out of the germans in the first world war. if all else fails and the crims invade your space, you could then continue the jockinese theme by trying a ‘glasgow kiss’;).

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=glasgow+kisshmm where i come from , the act of planting ones head with high velocity onto the perps nose ( ostenisbly to cause heavy bleeding and breakage if possible ) is called a barnsley kiss!

guess we all have our own version of "the kiss "

[GoodEnough]

I am the last one to disparage reasonable attempts at self preservation, but I think some of these posts are over-estimating the degree of danger. These are more than typically desperate times for the country, and people are consequently making stronger than usual attempts to survive. I think this is what accounts for the increased aggression on the part of the street hawkers. It's been my experience that these guys are not, for the most part, prone to violence, and I look at the hordes of vendors who engulf me every time I venture onto Burgos Street more as an inconvenience than a threat. The same goes for the touts, hustlers, beggars and vendors in Ermita; they're a pain in the ass, but they're not typically very dangerous.

I'm a lot more apprehensive on the silent streets of Zamboanga than I am on the human traffic-clogged sidewalks of Manila.

GE

[Gravel Kicker]

I had one run in with beggars. Nothing serious I just tossed a couple cigarettes on the ground and that did the trick.

I'm going to invest in pepper spray next time I'm in country. I saw a vendor selling it at a booth in Mall of Asia. I could only imagine those poor dirty bumbs getting nailed by a steady stream of Pepper spray. Bet they wouldn't mess with a another monger for sometime after they had their eyes burned out of their skulls.

It's probably not a great idea to pepper spray a local, bumb or not. Unless there is some real danger of being physically harmed. Plus who wants to carry that crap in their pocket while mongering.

[GoodEnough]

Unless you have an abnormally strong desire to risk deportation and a few nights in a local jail, I suggest that you suppress any thoughts of physically abusing the local population, particularly in a place like Burgos, which has a strong police presence. There's been a recent upsurge in the degree of resentment of foreigners, precipitated by the recent re-signing of the US-RP VFA, and since most foreigners are automatically assumed to be Americans, you might be risking more than the situation warrants.

GE

[X Man]

In response to GE's concerns, I want to say that my earlier post (quoted below) was mostly in jest. I've never had and serious problems in the Philippines other than a missing wallet, and I've never had any physical confrontation. (I'm not counting the lass who got a little to vigerous while on top and put my tool out of action for two days).

When alone at night on dark streets, I do walk quickly and confidently. I learned that in Detroit until they banished me (you reading Puerta ?).

In the past I've been surprised by non Filipinos who've told me it's a dangerous place, but have had no bad experiences. They claim its dangerous just because they see a run down neighborhood and people in rather worn clothes looking at them.

All I can say to that type of thinking is ...."boo".

X


X Man's survival tactics.

Walk quick and with purpose, even if you're lost. Especially if you're lost.

Look dodgy people in the eye. Don't smile unless it is you've perfected Heath Ledger's Joker smile.

Don't give kids change, you create an exponentially growing problem. If you must give them something, give them a snack you got at the convenience store. Throw the snack in front of fast moving traffic.

If trapped in a potentially dangerous situation, start snorting, eyes rolling, spastic movements. You'll scare most people away. And the the meth freaks, they'll think you are one of their own. This also works on Tokyo trains. People will get up and move, you can lay down if you want. Anyway, back to MNL.

Don't shave -- looking scary is good. Don't wear jewelry. Don't walk around like a chickenshit.

And always wear plaid. It seems to incite those pale looking British folks, even though it scares away Fil. criminals.

X

[Key Master]

This makes me not want to go. I booked my ticket already, but it sounds worse than Vietnam. I guess I should grab the first Girl and head straight to Boracay.

It depends on you. If you are a nervous nellie and not willing to deal with some crap then don't go, but you might be missing out on some great experiences.

[Run Mann]

I had one run in with beggars. Nothing serious I just tossed a couple cigarettes on the ground and that did the trick.

I'm going to invest in pepper spray next time I'm in country. I saw a vendor selling it at a booth in Mall of Asia. I could only imagine those poor dirty bumbs getting nailed by a steady stream of Pepper spray. Bet they wouldn't mess with a another monger for sometime after they had their eyes burned out of their skulls.

It's probably not a great idea to pepper spray a local, bumb or not. Unless there is some real danger of being physically harmed. Plus who wants to carry that crap in their pocket while mongering.

Nice one! You made your case, then talked yourself out of it. Good decision though.

[Cunning Stunt]

Hmm where I come from , the act of planting ones head with high velocity onto the perps nose ( ostenisbly to cause heavy bleeding and breakage if possible ) is called a Barnsley kiss!

Ee up by gum, lad, thas cum from t’god’s cuntry. (translation: Well, well Sir, you do originate from a fine part of UK).

[FreebieFan]

Ee up by gum, lad, thas cum from t’god’s cuntry. (translation: Well, well Sir, you do originate from a fine part of UK).Theres only one reply I can make to that t'old lad... and its " appen!"

Americans, please note.. sorry but we're talking a totally foreign language that is vaguely based upon English.

[Redfield10]

Huh?

Your last paragraph made no sense to me.

You talk as if I'm a newbie and didn't detail my experience. Go do your "own" homework as I've described the incident several times. I'm not going to do it again for you benefit.

It's a bad and dangerous area of Manila and from talking to quite a few others both on this board, other boards and in person it's not unusual to expereince problems there including getting pickpocketed by several people at once and also getting more violently accosted or assaulted.

It's many times more dangerous in that area, in general, (in my opinion and the opinion of many others) than say anywhere in Bangkok, Phnom Phen, Ho Chi Minh City, etc.(I've been all over all of them).

One friend has mongered all over the world literally for 30 years on many continents and in many major and not so major cities and said it's the worse place he's ever experienced in terms of actual and potential danger except perhaps Nairobi at it's worse.

Sure, not everyone is going to get robbed or accosted, or pickpocketed every time they walk there. That doesn't mean it's not more dangerous than almost any other popular mongering places folks go to.

If you don't agree, that's fair. I feel I owe it to folks to warn them. It does make walking down anywhere on Sukhumvit in Bangkok or walking "anywhere" in Phnom Penh or Ho Chi Minh City seem like sitting in your living room compared to that part of Manila, in my opinion.

You are welcome to your own opinion.


It's been mentioned before this whole incident that this area is seedy and that there are a lot of poor people on the streets there. For someone who keeps on harping on what seems to be a fluke of bad luck, I wonder why he seems surprised that this could happen when this area has been talked about before. If you had done your research, you knew that the possibility was there that petty crime could happen and it did. Violently robbed has been used quite a bit to describe this incident, but we still don't know the details of what type of violence. I think it would help the people on this board if you could describe in detail exactly how it all transpired, not just saying you were violently robbed. How so? Was there a knife to your neck, or a gun to your head, or were you knocked down to the ground and pinned? That would be violent.

For newbies looking for information, please don't take that everyone here who is talking know's what they are talking about or whatever someone says is 100% correct. You don't have to take my word for it, but really there are some people here who think they know but they don't. It's not always easy to see who does or doesn't. Posts count or the title of "Senior Member" is not a shoe in that the person can be of assistance to you. You can look back at what someone posts to get an ideal sometimes.

Now going back to the Ermita/Malate area. As mentioned this area is a little dodgy. If you are truly new to the third world scene and traveling, it's probably not the best place to get your feet wet. It's dark at night and there are poor people on the streets. Sometimes a little pack of kids will come up to you at the same time and paw at you, while one tries to pickpocket you. Lots of beggars here also. If you can't handle this sort of thing, I suggest you not bother coming here. In the PI there are lots of poor people here. The information is here to read. There are lots of posts, you just have to take the time to read through them to get more than just the gist.

I have never heard someone say it's as safe as your living room in the Ermita/Malate area. It's pretty obvious if you are paying attention when you walk around. What would you think of someone I took the time out to answer private messages to where I was very detailed in my answers and then answer even more questions in regards to it and then see that he private messaged many other members the same questions and also asked the same questions on multiple threads as if it was so urgent? Some might think something is not right. If someone is like that, PI is probably not a good fit for them.

[Redfield10]

You're joking, right? The area around LA CAFE is 100 times worse than anywhere in Ho Chi Minh city or elsewhere in Vietnam that I've been. In my opinion.

Go anyway, but just be careful. And know that the area is dangerous.


This makes me not want to go. I booked my ticket already, but it sounds worse than Vietnam. I guess I should grab the first Girl and head straight to Boracay.

[FreebieFan]

In the "good old days" used to run a few marathons and knew that they needed a certain amount and certain style of training.

Well, I have another Manila trip up and coming and the best I can do these days for training is good sleep and little alcohol.

The program is expected to be

Arrive, at 3pm. Meet friendly 20 year I had scored with from previous trip. Shes fun and fit and definately worth a second pop. She says she has to leave by 8pm to take bus to province. Well that works for me. Leaves me free to get to Burgos.

Next day..meeting a chat friend from Davao. We planned to meet a few times last year but we never got dates worked out. Turns out shes moved to Makati and her office is 200 metres from my condo. Will meet her for breakfast, then in afernoon will meet a college student ( 24) met and popped on previous trip. This time she says shes not nervous, all holes are available, and she will wear her college outfit.
Will leave her at 7pm as have a meeting with a 34 year old with D cups. She says if I buy her a bollte of Baileys "many things can happen".

Next day will be my regular from Pampanga.Always up for most games... this time Ive arranged for a female massage lady to come to the room... will see how she likes a little female touch....as well as my own of course lol.

Next day am suprisingly free, altho the Davao girl and I have a date that night that Im sure will result in some bed and bump time.

Last morning.. havent yet decided who's on the list but Im sure there will be someone.

And that is the going to be my next few days...and i love it !!!!

[ShadowAxis]

Have an opportunity to pick up a 45 sq. meter condo unit about a minute walk from the Swagman Hotel and right down the alley from Wendys for about $5K USD. It would need another $5K to $10K for a total interior renovation.

Where else in the world can you find a place almost directly across the street from the US Embassy at such a price? With pussy everywhere!

Problem is simple - the neighborhood, even during the day is packed with annoying street urchins, beggars, and lowlifes. Sitting at the Wendys one day I bought a two piece chicken & rice for a woman and her two toddlers - and some asshole (presumably the BF or father) came sauntering across the street (from the park), grabbed a piece - and half the rice and went back to drinking with his friends.

I slowly realized that putting any money into a condo, or even an entire building in that area would be a total waste of resources. The choices are to a) rent it to lowlifes and watch them roast cat over a fire built in the kitchen sink, b) rent it to mongers who typically leave a nasty residue of cigarette tar, condoms, cumstains and cheap alcohol - or c), use it as a private fuckpad.

Personally - I don't think the area is any worst then Market Street in San Francisco. But compared to other Asian cities - it's pretty bad. I'd take Itaewon, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur or Orchard Towers in Singapore over LA Cafe (and associated local dumps) any day.

Your safest option (in that area) is to play mall hunter and bag them in the eurotel (which has in wall safes for your wallet and cell phone). The shitbags who run the Malate bars don't do anything for the girls, or the neighborhood anyway. Hell, half the scam cabs in front of LA are owned by people related to or directly by the bar owners.

Remember, many of the girls haunting LA are the ones who didn't pass the very weak health exams required by the bars in Makati, EDSA or Quezon.

I am not a fan... (of the area, bars, or girls)


You're joking, right? The area around LA CAFE is 100 times worse than anywhere in Ho Chi Minh city or elsewhere in Vietnam that I've been. In my opinion.

Go anyway, but just be careful. And know that the area is dangerous.

[GoodEnough]

You're joking, right? The area around LA CAFE is 100 times worse than anywhere in Ho Chi Minh city or elsewhere in Vietnam that I've been. In my opinion.

Go anyway, but just be careful. And know that the area is dangerous.
It's true that I cannot remember any part of any city in Vietnam that was quite a seedy as the area around LA. On the other hand, it's easy to over react. Sleazy and seedy does not necessarily mean dangerous. In the six years that I've lived here, and in innumerable trips to that area, I've never come close to having a problem and, as I've pointed out before, I'm old, not in the least bit intimidating and probably an easy mark.

It's always wise to be aware of your surroundings, and it's prudent no to do anything that makes you uncomfortable, but if you're reasonably alert and reasonably polite, you should not have any problems. Don't let fear get in the way of enjoying yourself. Take a taxi to the door and, when you leave, walk about thirty or forty meters down the street to grab another taxi.

GE

[Key Master]

Huh?

Your last paragraph made no sense to me.

You talk as if I'm a newbie and didn't detail my experience. Go do your "own" homework as I've described the incident several times. I'm not going to do it again for you benefit.

It's a bad and dangerous area of Manila and from talking to quite a few others both on this board, other boards and in person it's not unusual to expereince problems there including getting pickpocketed by several people at once and also getting more violently accosted or assaulted.

It's many times more dangerous in that area, in general, (in my opinion and the opinion of many others) than say anywhere in Bangkok, Phnom Phen, Ho Chi Minh City, etc.(I've been all over all of them).

One friend has mongered all over the world literally for 30 years on many continents and in many major and not so major cities and said it's the worse place he's ever experienced in terms of actual and potential danger except perhaps Nairobi at it's worse.

Sure, not everyone is going to get robbed or accosted, or pickpocketed every time they walk there. That doesn't mean it's not more dangerous than almost any other popular mongering places folks go to.

If you don't agree, that's fair. I feel I owe it to folks to warn them. It does make walking down anywhere on Sukhumvit in Bangkok or walking "anywhere" in Phnom Penh or Ho Chi Minh City seem like sitting in your living room compared to that part of Manila, in my opinion.

You are welcome to your own opinion.

I have read your posts and still trying to decipher "violent". The element is there and petty theft is there. I actually have met one of your supporters that you use who got frightened and it's not surprising to me. The last paragraph must be a field of dreams. This area is not for newbies or skittish people, that is true.

[Cunning Stunt]

Remember, many of the girls haunting LA are the ones who didn't pass the very weak health exams required by the bars in Makati, EDSA or Quezon.Would be interested to know on what premise you base this assertion?

[ShadowAxis]

From knowing a girl who used to waitress simultaneously at a club on Burgeos and at LA. And sadly, observation.

I asked her about a familiar girl I spotted who dropped out of the Makati lineup and the rumor was she failed her checkup. She told me that some girls would rather go to a place like LA (or a dozen other bars) then freelance on the street.

A girl can fail for any number of obvious and often treatable reasons at which point she is back on Burgeos; but some can't go for very long without some freelance income. On a positive note. Look at it this way, at least some girls are failing the medical and being removed from the lineups. I didn't think that actually ever happened.

Yet another reason I stick to the spas, fishbowls, and established bars.

Have been spending my mongering time trying to figure out where the well off older local men go for pussy. I would imagine they are paying about the same rates as we do. And maybe the selection is better.


Would be interested to know on what premise you base this assertion?

[Sammon]

From knowing a girl who used to waitress simultaneously at a club on Burgeos and at LA. And sadly, observation.

I asked her about a familiar girl I spotted who dropped out of the Makati lineup and the rumor was she failed her checkup. She told me that some girls would rather go to a place like LA (or a dozen other bars) then freelance on the street.

A girl can fail for any number of obvious and often treatable reasons at which point she is back on Burgeos; but some can't go for very long without some freelance income. On a positive note. Look at it this way, at least some girls are failing the medical and being removed from the lineups. I didn't think that actually ever happened.

Yet another reason I stick to the spas, fishbowls, and established bars.

Have been spending my mongering time trying to figure out where the well off older local men go for pussy. I would imagine they are paying about the same rates as we do. And maybe the selection is better.

I have had some problems with bad smelling pussies from LA cafe. I always check the smell even though I will never bareback anybody from there.
If they smell bad I do give the agreed amount and ask them to leave in order to avoid confrontation.
Little checking and if possible visual inspection is necessary. Never ever DATY.

[Cunning Stunt]

From my own observations, I would say that the types of girls who work out of LA Café can be broadly categorized as follows:

1. The hoary (or whory) old regulars.
2. Those staying at the boarding house upstairs. Also regular.
3. Moonlighters from other venues in Burgos, EDSA and Cubao. They may be rejects on health grounds but many visit after work if they have not been barfined (or have and want more money).
4. Less regular visitor from outlying areas such as Cavite etc who come in once or twice a week. Often seems to be single mothers.
5. The true amateur, often visiting with a friend, but not adverse to a spot of business. Seen once or twice and never again or becomes a very infrequent visitor. Sometimes students or in other gainful employment.

There may be other categories and obviously the dividing line between them are blurry. Also it is difficult, without being a daily regular, to distinguish between the various types. Even the haggard old regular will claim to be a student:D.

In all cases, the onus is on you the monger to check that the meat is fit for consumption. Don't know about you guys but I always err towards extreme caution and have a trusted and step by step hygiene procedure which does seem to work and has kept me infection free. But mongering is a risk takers game and there are never any guarantees. However, it never fails to amaze me how many guys will bareback LA Cafe girls:eek:.



Have been spending my mongering time trying to figure out where the well off older local men go for pussy. I would imagine they are paying about the same rates as we do. And maybe the selection is better.

Let us all know when you finally do figure it out;). Same as the rest of us, I would say. But with more emphasis on Dating Sites (particularly Friendster), local KTV's and GRO bars although the system works differently (no bar fine so they have to get CP No's and meet later). I have heard tell of high class casas for locals only but cannot vouch for their veracity. Never met a Filipino who would admit to visiting a casa.

[Soapy Smith]

Your safest option (in that area) is to play mall hunter and bag them in the eurotel (which has in wall safes for your wallet and cell phone). The shitbags who run the Malate bars don't do anything for the girls, or the neighborhood anyway.

My experiences have led me to a different conclusion. My one and only experience with a pick up from Robinson's Place Mall pulled a grab and dash when I took a moment out of the in-out-in-out action to relieve myself. Fortunately she only got about 1500 PHP, which I might have given her anyway if she'd stuck around long enough for me to finish. I have taken a few disappointing performers out of LA, but every woman I ever took out of there at least delivered what she promised.

GH swears by his conquests from Harrison Mall, but he may well have more game and a better figurative sense of smell than I have. Here's an important difference that I believe separates the LA freelancers from the mall walkers. The mix at LA has at least all the varieties that GH laid out, and, with the exception of those who are absolutely brand new or very rare visitors, these gals get to know each other a little. In addition, the Mamasans do ride herd on some of the girls. So what I observe is that they know they're in business, and they don't like girls who ruin the trade by ripping off customers.

One of the things that mongers here describe that distinguishes the Phils from other Southeast Asian mongering countries, is that you can often get a real GFE here. I have had this numerous times. I have had some wonderful GF experiences with women who'd been repeats for me. Part of why I repeated with them was because they'd been so affectionate and accommodating when I'd been with them before. One of them who seemed like one of the sharper knives in the drawer explained to me that she tried to be affectionate and pleasing because she figured it was good for business. She told me that she'd found that older Western men tended to be more gentle and more affectionate than other men, and so she tried especially hard to please men whom she wanted to have pick her up again. So this was her business sense, and it was essentially devoid of the kind of mercenary calculations one might expect.

I developed a friendship with one of the Mamasans at LA, and she pointed out a lot of stuff going on that passed beneath the radars of most of the male patrons. She warned me away from some women -- sometimes because she said I shouldn't trust one, or occasionally because she pointed out the ones with drug and booze habits. She wasn't merely steering me to her stable of fillies, because I only once took one of her girls. (Who happened to be probably the most attractive woman I ever took out of there, and later, quite without warning, proceeded to deliver a most wonderful deep throat.)

The management at LA does occasionally remove people for abusive behavior. When I've seen it occur it was typically a woman rather than a paying customer being shown the door.

Similarly, I got to know a number of the girls over time, many of whom I never took out. They were simply friends of women I had taken out. On several occasions, even after I'd selected a mate for the night, I'd sit and chat with them, and occasionally buy a few 75 peso sodas for them. They shared lots of warnings with me -- girls known to be sleazy, dishonest, or addicted.

My point is that, even though there were clearly some women there who shouldn't be trusted, the majority of women were part of a collectivity whose members cared about not polluting the water from which they all depended on fishing.

With mall girls, on the other hand, there is virtually no sense of community, no colleagues with a desire to protect their common interest. Furthermore, one of the reasons that some girls work the malls and the streets is that they've done things to wear out their welcome at LA, the G-Point, and other bars.

So, nasty as the environment and the selection at LA often is, there is nonetheless a sense of honor among the dishonorable.

[Robbaf]

I developed a friendship with one of the Mamasans at LA, and she pointed out a lot of stuff going on that passed beneath the radars of most of the male patrons. She warned me away from some women -- sometimes because she said I shouldn't trust one, or occasionally because she pointed out the ones with drug and booze habits. She wasn't merely steering me to her stable of fillies, because I only once took one of her girls. (Who happened to be probably the most attractive woman I ever took out of there, and later, quite without warning, proceeded to deliver a most wonderful deep throat.)
I have been in the LA Cafe over 100 times in the last two years and I have not yet met a Mamasan.

[Cunning Stunt]

I have been in the LA Cafe over 100 times in the last two years and I have not yet met a Mamasan.

There used to be loads ... but they caused mucho trouble, taking money off of the girls and charging the punters, so have largely being turfed out by the management, recently.



GH swears by his conquests from Harrison Mall, but he may well have more game and a better figurative sense of smell than I have.

I have had a bit of success at mall trolling but it does require a lot of patience and a backup plan. The last 3 visits to Harrison Plaza, I left empty handed (except for a few boxes of cialis and some pirated Wii games:)), so its off to LA Cafe. If I don't see what I fancy, I repair to Robinsons Mall to try my luck there. If thats a washout, I go home and screw the dog;).



One of the things that mongers here describe that distinguishes the Phils from other Southeast Asian mongering countries, is that you can often get a real GFE here. .

Yes this is the big draw for mongers in The Philippines.


...because I only once took one of her girls. (Who happened to be probably the most attractive woman I ever took out of there, and later, quite without warning, proceeded to deliver a most wonderful deep throat.)


This reminds me of a girl from a couple of weeks ago (report and masked photo posted http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115317), who gave an astonishingly good deep throat. Very pretty lady too so could it be the same girl? Filipinas who can DT well are kinda rare.

[ShadowAxis]

my experiences have led me to a different conclusion. my one and only experience with a pick up from robinson's place mall pulled a grab and dash when i took a moment out of the in-out-in-out action to relieve myselfthat sucks, similar thing happened to me with a sw in new orleans. she nabbed a watch under the same circumstances and ran for her pimps cadillac. at least the wallet and cell phone were in the room safe. joke was on her though, she ran with an imitation rolex in lieu of waiting around to be paid.

i can see your point about community. perhaps the ones at the mall have been excluded from hunting at la for exactly the behavior you experienced? i have also seen men pissing into a canal upstream of the ladies doing the laundry – sometimes the locals just don't think ahead. there is certainly nothing about their education that teaches them to think critically. i always assume that any girl is capable of giving in to temptation – which is why (if i am carrying anything valuable) i use a wall safe or put it up on a super high shelf, out of sight, if that option is available. the best solution is to use fishbowl parlors like don pedro. the girls have condoms, know the game, and i have never been ripped off (or heard of anyone being ripped off). well – i suppose lousy service counts.


gh swears by his conquests from harrison mall, but he may well have more game and a better figurative sense of smell than i have.with few exceptions most of the girls i have seen working harrison (the second floor girls) are hags or possible **** but admittedly i haven't put the time into it. as gh experienced, shop girls seem like a good option but take some work and i'm usually not so patient. harrison is also the only mall i have seen pimps trying to hustle girls – so i assume taking any working girl out of harrison runs the risk of being trailed by some junior mac looking for an easy mark.

as for sense of community and gfe – the key thing to remember here is the community is all about the hustle and until you have been around long enough to understand most of the tagalog you hear – realize that the system of relationships, favors, utang, and gamesmanship has a single goal; to separate you from your money. that community will very easily pair a needy, in debt, or sick girl with a generous monger so she can cover her medical (or gambling) bills, or those of her aunties sisters nieces children, or to garner a future favor from the girls network. luckily for us, the locals have completely sold themselves on the notion of romantic salvation and the concept of a white knight. the locals also see themselves as a little sister of the usa. the us is close to the filipino heart and history. they see it as strongly possible that, if they romance the guy they may be lifted from poverty and even brought to the us. if you are a decent, educated white guy – and older is ok, your odds of a true gfe go through the roof. (you have so much in common compared to anyone else in asia) the average thai girl would have a hard time finding the us on a map, whereas the locals learn more about the us then you could possibly imagine. my gf for example, can name the capital cities of more states in the us than i can. my point is, a thai will assume the guy disappears forever and therefore she has a limited window of time to extract benefit whereas the filipina can mentally map a better life for herself and family through her new benefactor.

often you'll hear a filipina say she is "contented" with her man. the real translation of that word, in terms of how it is used is a combination of settled and secure – being happy, sexually gratified, and so forth doesn't factor into the translation. she will also say she doesn't understand why a man with a pretty girl (or a good woman) is not "contented" to stay with her. culturally, it's more important to be paired and respectable, to work as partners and be a team / business. this is where the girls are unmistakably asian (vs. spanish, mexican, italian) and you see that expressed as being "practical." usually used as "i'm a good girl, but in my situation i have to be practical."

wow – i am so over-thinking this. the real question is clear – what's it worth to have the 19 year old girl of your hustler honey dreams banging you into orgasmic oblivion? back in the us i would have parted with $300.00 or more for that – but instead, the ***** stole my watch. lol no matter what the circumstances are or how clever the girls – life is still good.

[FreebieFan]

My M. O has always been to set things up a bit in advance, it takes away the cold sweat and worry of spending an hour or two fixing up the next assignment. So, arrived in Manila and knew that within 90 minutes of getting off the plane Gal 1 would be connected to me.

Gal 1 is a cute girl I found in a massage place (clean one with litle hanky panky offered, and as she doesn't really know how to give a HJ I'm guessing she doesn't offer too many " specials". Probably wrong tho. LOL. Met and scored with her last trip. Anyways shes 20, and had delayed a trip to province to be with me. How sweet. Met in nearby mall, took her to my condo, as no time for a Sogo trip, spent two hours connected deeply to her, then took her to bus station.

Meant I wouldn't have to worry about the " can I see you again" problem.

After that went to Burgos. Found an former bargirl there who I knew. We went to eat and chat in Owzat sports bar. I asked her why shes gained weight. She replies " I only eat rice, and sometimes eat cum.". Yeah. Nice gal LOL.

Anyways left there and went to another bar to see an old friend. She comes over and is all sweet etc. Ok honey, lets have the 5 drinks and do the VIP thing. At some point I asked her how old she is as I think I've known her for 4-5 years. She tells me shes now 21. Hmmm.

Home by midnight.

Next am met a hot prospect for breakfast. 25 year old and someone Id been chatting with for about 18 months but never met. Wow. She was tiny, but bubbly and really fun and funny and the sweet kiss when I dropped her at her work place made me realise she was there for the taking.

Wandered around Cinema square buying dvds then saw a sign for a spa. With nothing else to do and hours before my next appointment thought why not. The fact the spa has a sign outside stating " sexy girls needed as masseurs, onyl 18-24 need apply " was encouraging.

After 5 minutes the masseur told me I'm handsome and funny. After ten she tells me about her fathers ailments. After 12 she tells me can give me HJ. HJ was average but ok value at P 500. Anyways its nothing special but for those who need its opposite entrance to Cinema Square near the japanese restaurants (not Fuji Spa)

Had lunch then met another repeat from previous trip. A shy student girl whos 25. Had baby, normal story. Says I'm the only foreigner shes met. Anyways she arrives in nice high heels and short skirt as Id requested. Off to Sogo, she happliy dressed in the slinky tarty negligee I got her and we had our fun.

Dropped her back in the mall and off to Burgos again.

Somehow the little tiny pocket dynamo got invited to breakfast again and again we shared many laughs. Dropped her at work then I went to work for the day.

Bout 5pm I met my regular visitor from Pampanga arrived. Sits on a bus for 4 hours to spend night with me every time I'm in town. Stayed in a Makati avenue hotel, she wore all the trashy see thru clothes id got her (gold bikini, fishnets, suspenders, oepn crotch panties etc. Yeah I'm really tasteful I know. LOL) we had lots fun as always.

Dropped her the next am at bus station, then home to sleep.

Late afternoon I met the pocket dynamo for our "date". Went for drinks, dinner, went to Strumms and few places then back to my condo. 4 ft 11 but body was small perfect and nicely toned. She also cuddled up soooo nicely all night long. Had breakfast, dropped her off and thought now what shall I do.

Well that was easily answered as Gal number 1 had endured 12 hours on bus bak from her province to see me before I left. So I dropped off the pocket dynamo. And within 30 minutes am meeting the other one.

We did the usual, and she loved the g spot vibrator. Dropped her at the mall.

Got sms from bargirl. "please please can we meet, I like you so much" and then sms from second gal Id scored with. " I like you but think you only want sex so I will not see you again". Wow. Perceptive girl.!

Then back to condo and spent 30 minutes picking up stray female hair from all over the place. Checked the car for stray female hair (yes the wife surely checks! ) checked in at airport and flew home.

Another wonderful few days in Manila. I miss it already.

[FreebieFan]

Am sure many of us regualr visitors are amazed with the well timed sms from someone we haven't spoken to in months. Who sends you an sms just as soon as you've landed.

On my most recent visit, I got two sms as I'm in the taxi leaving the airport. Both were from dogs who Id shagged and then forgotten. Both saying " Oh I just sent you an sms to see if you were in Manila ".

Do they spend all day sending sms to random guys hoping to hit pay dirt. Possibly. By the way for serial senders of sms (texts in Phils). If you're using a prepaid card, send UNLI20 to 258. All your sms will be free for the next 24 hours.

[Soapy Smith]

This reminds me of a girl from a couple of weeks ago (report and masked photo posted http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115317), who gave an astonishingly good deep throat. Very pretty lady too so could it be the same girl? Filipinas who can DT well are kinda rare.

Can't tell from the photo. I think mine said she was about 22, and that was two years ago. Her story was that she was a fashion design student in some school in Makati. Her mother was in the states, California, I think. Mom sends her money but it wasn't enough to cover her tastes, so she supplements with takeouts from LA.

My experiences with mamasans were from about two years ago. More recently I've seen some homely older women who could have been mamasans -- or just well-worn stock.

Anyway, on that occasion mamasan and I had been chatting. There wasn't much else to do because it was a night with more men than women at LA. I'd already resigned myself to not being able to score that night. There were a couple Frenchmen at the high round table just inside the door on the right. One of mamasan's girls would come in the door (presumably from the last customer), she'd send her into the back, as though getting her to blend in briefly so nobody would notice how recently she'd come back from her last trick. Then a few minutes later mamasan would stroll over to the Frenchmen, presumably promising some hot new property. A minute later she sends the latest returnee over to the Frenchmen. A few minutes later they reject her, and back she goes into the darker area behind the bar. This happened several times.

I was just about to leave, and probably told mamasan so, when from somewhere back in the bar she calls out this tall, thin cutie and asks her to sit with me. I'm thinking, mamasan must like me to have sent this one over to me rather than the fussy Frenchmen. Or maybe she'd tired of trying to please them. I had strolled around the bar looking several times, and I had not seen this cutie.

We make small talk and then talk business. She told me she has to pay mamasan 200 php, and so her price was about that much more than the typical freelancer. From appearance alone she seemed worth it, so away we went. At some point she told me she worked with a mamasan because she wasn't confident enough to approach men on her own and expect to get the results she got from mamasan's matchmaking. I guess she was kinda shy, but only in the bar. She also told me she would not work with the other mamasans, because some of them expected excessive commissions (500 or more) and treated the girls badly.

Back at the hotel room she undressed to reveal tatas that were nicely shaped and bigger than I expected for such a thin woman. She seemed willing to let me DATY. She trembled a time or two, but may have faked it. Then she quickly reversed positions and drew me bb way back into her throat. She took all but about an inch, maybe less, which I can assure you put three or four inches into her throat. For a moment she wrapped two thin fingers around the little bit of shaft left between her mouth and my pubes. She proceeded in and out a few times, but not as long as I would have liked.

She asked me for a condom, applied it, then started up a deep plunge all the way down in a front cowgirl, and then went into a very vigorous combination of deep thrusts and rotating motions. It didn't last long -- for either one of us. We both just lay on our sides panting until we got our breath back.

I paid her and walked her back to about a block from LA. She said she would probably call it a night. I got something to eat and then happened to walk back past the front of LA about 90 minutes later. The same girl was returning to LA, hand in hand with another Western man. She gave me a sheepish look, as if to say, "yeah, I just did him in the time it took you to eat dinner and walk back past here." She'd told me earlier she'd already had one customer before me. She went back in to LA. It was maybe 11 pm, so apparently her night was still young. I'd say her arrangement with mamasan worked out very well for her.

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[Wicked Roger]

Anyways she arrives in nice high heels and short skirt as Id requested. Off to Sogo, she happliy dressed in the slinky tarty negligee I got her and we had our fun.

Stayed in a Makati avenue hotel, she wore all the trashy see thru clothes id got her (gold bikini, fishnets, suspenders, oepn crotch panties etc. Yeah I'm really tasteful I know. LOL).


FF
Nice report and seems you plan well.

Must agree a monger can never 'accessorise' enough :D I also bring with me some heels (grreat FM ones) an am always able to make sure they fit the cuties - well I go after a certain size/weitgh soeasy now ;)

Lingerie, PVC also in my accessory bag but no serious toys as hard to bring back into the UAE nowadays but the odd butt plug is easy and great accessory that my cuites are fascinated about

Even given some advice here to newbies as to where to buy the FM heels...and my wardrobe of accessories is well stocked for the UAE Filipinas I see.

So tasteful ?- well in my view defintely :D

Have fun

[Michael Morris]

How do you get to angeles city if yo fly into Manila, and what is a good hotel to stay?

[Byung]

Trip Report: Jun 1 ~ Jun 11, 2009.

My first trip to the Philippines.

I'd been corresponding online with a girl from Manila for the past year or so via Facebook. Though I normally live in Los Angeles, I've been in Seoul for over a month, and I figured, why not finally just visit Manila and bang this 21 year old chick?

So I started calling her, and we made plans to meet up. We were talking about touring Manila, possibly checking out Boracay together, and whatnot.

I then purchased my airline tickets, booked my hotel, and then decided to give her a call, literally about 16 hours before my flight was to depart. I was going to tell her I was arriving in a bit, and wanted to know if she would come out to the airport to meet me.

Well, when she answered the phone, she answered it crying, and I didn't know what she was saying (her English was OK, but hard to comprehend when crying). At one point I heard her say, "WHY YOU CALLING ME?" and anyway, the fact that she'd talk like that and cry and all this to me, it really turned me off.

I figured, there's no way in hell I'm going to see her now. I then only had a few hours to do research on what was available in Manila so I wouldn't be bored.

This forum came as a huge source of help, and I give thanks to ISG. Fortunately, it turns out the hotel I'd booked (the Lotus Garden in Ermita) was only a few minutes away from LA Cafe. Being on Padre Faura and A Mabini, I think it was only 3~4 blocks to LA Cafe.

Anyway, I arrived in Manila at my hotel around 2 PM, checked in, relaxed for a bit, and a few hours later, decided to head out. I found the infamous LA Cafe, went in, sat down, ordered a burger and took in the scene.

I did talk to a few girls, but I didn't find many of them attractive enough to bother with, so after about an hour and a half or so, I went back to the hotel. Later on at night, I went back to LA Cafe, and this time went to the back room, where they have the one pool table.

I sat there, ordered a bottle of Jose Cuervo, and started drinking. During the time a few girls talked to me, but again, none of them I cared to talk to. I had a few shots with the waitress, and I managed to talk to a Filipino guy who was sitting nearby. We ended up doing some shots, and he introduced me to his wife, and then we started playing some pool.

Later on, as we're getting buzzed, the guy (he says his name is Charles) says he wants to introduce me to his wife's friend. I forgot her name, but he pointed her out, and she was actually a very pretty girl. One of the top 5% in all of LA Cafe.

We started doing shots together, and after a while, him and his wife start joking that I should take her out and have fun. Anyway, eventually I do it, and the girl tells me to tip 'Charles' like 200 pesos... which I did.

So the two of us walk back to my hotel, and on the way there, I was harassed by a homeless woman who wouldn't stop following me, so I threw her 20 pesos and she went away.

Long story short (is it too late for that?), we got back to my room, and normally I take a shower before doing anything, but this time, no. We went right at it, and there was some DFK, BBBJ, a few positions, and it was fairly 'passionate'.

Afterwards, she took a shower, and after she came back out, I fell asleep around that time.

Now, the confusing thing is the next morning, when I only had 1,200 pesos in my wallet. I wasn't sure how much I was supposed to pay her. I figured I'd just give her everything in my wallet, which was 1,200 pesos (I spent the rest on the tequila and whatnot from the previous night, and my foreign currency, as well as all my other valuables were in the hotel safe downstairs).

She had a disappointed look, but took it. I feel kind of bad, but she didn't complain or anything, so I figured maybe it's alright. Anyway, later that night, I saw her at LA Cafe again, playing pool, but she didn't acknowledge me at all.

Later on, as I found out what the going rate was (apparently about 2,000), I felt bad about it, and wanted to give her an extra 1,000 if I ever saw her again, which I didn't (though to be honest, the latter 3/4 of my trip I always went straight upstairs at LA Cafe).

I ended up picking up a total of four girls at LA Cafe during my 10 days.

Girl #1 - Paid her 1,200. Felt bad about it later. Facially speaking, she was probably the prettiest one of all the girls. Bodywise, I couldn't tell much because the first night she had one of those dresses on that could cover a stomach. The second time I saw her I could see she had a tiny belly, but no big deal.

Girl #2 - Paid her 2,000/day. Had her for three days. Her name is Jing (or Jing Jing). 31 years old. Her real name is something like Verna or something. Fairly attractive face, dark, looks Chinese mixed, spinner. Met her downstairs at the circular bar. Chose her because she said she loves Korean food, and I wanted someone to eat Korean food with. She wasn't exactly the best lover, and as soon as we'd finish 'doing it', she'd always fall asleep (or pretend to) right away, and would always sleep facing away from me. Did not do much DFK, more like LFK for a few seconds when doing missionary only. Not sure why I spent so much time with her. GFE, if you want to see it as a girl you've dated for a long time and she's somewhat disgusted with you at times. Positive thing about her is that she is honest, and gave lots of good advice for dealing with LA Cafe and the surrounding area (like money changers, taxi drivers, etc). She also voluntarily gave her ID to the hotel staff as we walked in, telling me, "for your security".

Girl #3 - Paid her 2,500. Met her upstairs, intro'd by Mamasan. Her name is Tricia, she seemed to have nice big titties, but of course when I actually saw them, they were just supported very well by her bra. Body was decent enough, but far from perfect. She was fairly pretty. She gave a pretty good GFE as well. Lots of DFK during the act, and very warm and cuddly when sleeping. She woke me up around 7 AM saying she had to leave. Saw her in LA Cafe the other two days I was there after meeting her, but didn't speak with her.

Girl #4 - Paid her 2,500/day. Had her for three days. Met her upstairs. Initially, the Mamasan intro'd me to a girl who I thought was very cute and very doable, and was very very flirty with me. I then asked to see her ID, and she said she didn't have any. Anyway, that freaked me out, and she then told me that she did have a guest two weeks prior (a Korean, like me) who she was stopped with by police, near the Hyatt, and she had no ID, and the Korean had to pay the cop like 5,000 pesos.

She then said she had a friend who had ID, and told Mamasan to bring her friend, who was out on her first day back to LA Cafe after a three year hiatus. This girl was fairly attractive, and a total spinner. I like spinners, but I like spinners that are busty. She wasn't busty, but good enough.

Long story short, she was working at LA Cafe about three years ago, but due to too many bad experiences (getting robbed, beaten, etc) she stopped. It is only due to her mother recently being hospitalized and released that she came back temporarily.

She also has a 2 year old child with her first boyfriend, a Korean man, who is nowhere to be found now. Anyway, I spent the last three of my last four days with her (the second night I wanted her, she was not at LA Cafe, so I took out Girl #3 from this report instead). The second time I met her, I got her number.

Anyway, I gave her 2,500 PHP the first two days. The last day I gave her 5,000 PHP. I am not in love with this girl by any means, nor do I have strong feelings for her, and while not exactly the best in bed, she is a nice and subservient girl and possibly someone I can be with for a fairly good number of years. Long-term GF material, I think.

I've been with many working girls, and have seen/worked with many, and they rarely come as 'pure-hearted' as her. So while emotionally I may not be all that attached to her or have strong feelings for her, she's a very good choice if you look at it pragmatically (apart from the kid, but I'm not marrying her) as she is thin (a must), conservative, soft spoken, hard working, submissive, good-hearted.

Anybody else have experience with a girl in the Phils? Taking one on as GF material?

Anyway, I also wanted to state that I was reading a Korean newspaper in Manila, the Sunday Journal, and saw some adverts for a KTV nearby. I checked it out, went several times.

The pricing is basically 500 PHP per hour for the lady time charge, and beers are from 100~130 PHP depending on whether you want San Mig Light or Pilsen. Johnny Walker Black was 3,000 PHP. A fruit plate is like 800 PHP.

Basically if two guys went there and spent about two hours there (1000 PHP each), drinking about 10 beers altogether (1000 PHP) and sharing a fruit plate (800 PHP), then the total would come out to 3,800 PHP. On top of that, maybe if you wanted to tip the girl, let's say... 300 PHP each, and maybe 100 PHP to the waiter. Your total comes to 4,500 PHP for two guys. 2,250 PHP each person for two hours of fun at a KTV.

I went about three times, and went alone each time. However, I never took a girl out from there. The charge to take the girls out for some hotel action is 5,000 PHP! Wow... That's on top of whatever you paid for drinks and whatnot at the KTV... so your total night's cost could come out to over 7,000 PHP when all is said and done.

The thing is, I didn't find the girls at the KTV to be any more prettier than the girls at LA Cafe. Well, to be fair, there were maybe 2 stunners at the KTV, and one was an absolute stunner (very beautiful face with huge triple D breasts on a thin frame), but for the most part, you're better off at LA Cafe.

I didn't check out any other spots in Manila, like Makati's Burgos St or EDSA or whatever, but if any mongers would like to get together next time and maybe show me the ropes and share some stories, that would be great.

I also noticed some cabbies telling me about apartment girls. What exactly are 'apartment girls'? Sounds interesting, as we have something similar in Korea, but we call them 'officetel girls', but I'm not sure if it's the same system.

Thanks, and that is my first report on the Phils!

PS: The Lotus Garden Hotel is girl friendly, as they never asked me to pay any joiner fee or anything; then again, when I checked-in they asked me if the room was for one, I replied, "maybe two". I did get very disapproving looks from one of the female staff there, but everyone else seemed pretty cool.