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Cunning Stunt
02-01-10, 10:04
Finally got around to seeing Joan. We met at my preferred ST venue, Eurotel, Pedro Gil and she was very prompt, arriving only 5 minutes later than our mutually agreed time, which is always a good sign, particularly as she lives way out in Cavite.
She looks good enough to eat. She is a tiny wisp of a thing, 22 and only 4 foot 10 and 80 pounds soaking wet. She is very brown skinned and Pinay looking with a little button nose and an astonishingly dirty laugh. Great, tight little body with a cracking butt and the usual tiny little Jolibee tummy. No kids. She has one piercing – her tongue, which she was later to use to remarkably good effect. Her English is excellent – she said she had lost her cherry 2 years before to an English boyfriend …hmmm. An altogether lovely, little spinner.
No wonder she gets absolute rave reviews. As a nympho, this girl leaves even Ana standing at the gate. I pride myself on being able to outstay most Pinay fillies but this girl had me seriously flagging. Good job that she brought a selection of toys with her, including a vibrator and a fucking great black strap-on dildo which looked like it would split her in two. So, whilst I recovered in between shags, we pleasured her with toys. She is genuinely multi-orgasmic and appeared to be getting as much fun as I was.
She will do anything for pleasure except SM (although she loves being doggy spanked, really hard!!). Anal is permitted if your tool is small/medium sized, which negated my chances;). DT is excellent and she really does swallow if you insist, which I, being a gentleman, did not. For such a tiny girl, she loves being given it hard and deep and no whining about it being ‘too beeg’, just a lot of squeaks and genuine moaning.
She is bisexual and has a stable of 4 friends (two 19, one 20 and one 21 year old) who can join her. One is lactating, if that is your thing. If you are really perverted, she also has a LB friend:eek:.
She actually instructs you to bring a camera and take as many shots/videos as possible!
If you like a real raunchy PSE with a girl who also does a good GFE as well, Joan is the real deal. But get there pretty quickly as she says that she is going to hang up her dildos in a few weeks, when she hopes to open a legitimate business.
Posted a few photos in the appropriate place(http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983202&postcount=2445).
Finally got around to seeing Joan. We met at my preferred ST venue, Eurotel, Pedro Gil and she was very prompt, arriving only 5 minutes later than our mutually agreed time, which is always a good sign, particularly as she lives way out in Cavite.
She looks good enough to eat. She is a tiny wisp of a thing, 22 and only 4 foot 10 and 80 pounds soaking wet. She is very brown skinned and Pinay looking with a little button nose and an astonishingly dirty laugh. Great, tight little body with a cracking butt and the usual tiny little Jolibee tummy. No kids. She has one piercing – her tongue, which she was later to use to remarkably good effect. Her English is excellent – she said she had lost her cherry 2 years before to an English boyfriend …hmmm. An altogether lovely, little spinner.
No wonder she gets absolute rave reviews. As a nympho, this girl leaves even Ana standing at the gate. I pride myself on being able to outstay most Pinay fillies but this girl had me seriously flagging. Good job that she brought a selection of toys with her, including a vibrator and a fucking great black strap-on dildo which looked like it would split her in two. So, whilst I recovered in between shags, we pleasured her with toys. She is genuinely multi-orgasmic and appeared to be getting as much fun as I was.
She will do anything for pleasure except SM (although she loves being doggy spanked, really hard!!). Anal is permitted if your tool is small/medium sized, which negated my chances;). DT is excellent and she really does swallow if you insist, which I, being a gentleman, did not. For such a tiny girl, she loves being given it hard and deep and no whining about it being ‘too beeg’, just a lot of squeaks and genuine moaning.
She is bisexual and has a stable of 4 friends (two 19, one 20 and one 21 year old) who can join her. One is lactating, if that is your thing. If you are really perverted, she also has a LB friend:eek:.
She actually instructs you to bring a camera and take as many shots/videos as possible!
If you like a real raunchy PSE with a girl who also does a good GFE as well, Joan is the real deal. But get there pretty quickly as she says that she is going to hang up her dildos in a few weeks, when she hopes to open a legitimate business.
Posted a few photos in the appropriate place(http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983202&postcount=2445).
Damn you beat me too her, I was planning on meeting up with her when I'm in Manila in March...Hopefully she wont of hung up her dildo's before then. Nice photos...btw!
I have the opportunity to stay at Hyatt Hotel & Casino near LA Cafe & Robinson Mall beginning of March for a good deal.
Is Hyatt GF?
Any issues?
Thanks!Monger69,
Hyatt is GF and apart from checking and noting down her ID there should be no issues.
P
[submarines making groaning noises at berth]
It's not the hull, it's the mooring lines. Incorrectly tensioned!
I have the opportunity to stay at Hyatt Hotel & Casino near LA Cafe & Robinson Mall beginning of March for a good deal.
Is Hyatt GF?
Any issues?
Thanks!Yes, GF - I tried (as I had in the past) to register a new friend, and they said tha I did not even have to do that!
long time lurker. first time poster.
i have had many enjoyable exciting experiences across europe, south america, and asia thanks to isg posters and i felt that finally i have something to contribute. unfortunately it is in a negative sense.
recently because of a business emergency i traveled to manila and did not have the time i usually take to do research before i travel. because the amount of work, i made it a whole week before the "itch" took hold.
on saturday, searching on the internet, i came across "makati escorts". the pictures and descriptions kept sending me back to "scarlett" who was the most expensive of the cast ($200usd/3 hrs). the price seemed very high but based on the description and the fact that i was going to only have one weekend in manila i decided to take a flier on her. i finally worked up enough courage to call and was greeted by someone with very good english skills. i asked about scarlett and was told that he would check and call me back in 5 minutes. he was right on time and told me that she would be available in 2hours. i booked her for that early evening and waited. after 1. 5 hour of waiting, she called and told me that she had an emergency and would be another 3 hours late. at that point i cancelled the meeting and decided to go get something to drink instead. as i was leaving, my phone rang again and it was the escort office apologizing for the problem. i asked about other availability and was told that they had someone who could be there in 45 minutes (at a much cheaper price), i said "ok". well, 2 hours later (now 11:00pm) i gave up waiting and went to bed. the replacement never showed.
not being extremely smart, i again called "makati escorts" the next afternoon and was greeted by the same guy. he claimed to be shocked by the no show and apologized. i again asked about scarlett and we went thru the call back. she was available and would be there in 2 hours. before hanging up, i confirmed that the price was for 3 hours, that they would accept usd, and there were no further costs.
well 2. 5 hours later, the phone again rang. it was indeed scarlett and she was outside the lobby and needed money for the cab because she had no pesos, only dollars. i trudged down to the lobby to find someone sitting there who could only an escort. she was dressed in high heeled shoes, very short dress with tits pushing out of the dress top which was half unzipped. the only thing she was missing was a neon sign flashing "hooker". i paid the cab 500 pesos and embarrassingly led her to the elevator through a crowd of people staring at her and got to my room. at this point she announced that since she had no pesos, she also didn't have any protection and could i please give her another 500 pesos and she would run to the store a bock away. another 15 minutes when by and she returned with the necessary items. i paid her the agreed amount and she announced that she didn't want usd, she wanted pesos. i told her us or nothing. she then asked for liquor and i told her i had none. she also wondered why i seemed angry. i offered a beer which she took and after two gulps headed for the bathroom. 5 minutes later she emerged in panties and bra and sat down on the bed. i got ready and lay down beside her. she immediately grabbed me and after a few shakes her head went south. the bj was less than great (actually very amateurish) and lasted for about 90 seconds before her head popped up grabbed the raincoat and put it on.
she immediately jumped on and started bouncing. i tried to remove her bra but was stopped and she said they were too sore from the prior night when she was high on ecstasy and some guy squeezed them too hard. so here i am down well over $200 and 5 minutes after getting down to business i was done. and i hadn't even gotten her totally naked.
now she jumps up, heads for the bathroom again. i can hear the shower running then tooth brushing then just noise. 15 minutes went by and she emerges, full dressed- heads for the "sofa" and now wants to talk. i stuck my head into the bathroom to find it totally trashed – all the towels used/stained and rep001tered about and water covering the floor. by then, i just wanted the whole thing to be over so i told her that she could leave. no argument from her but she did manage to ask for cab fare for the ride home. the answer was "no chance".
gentlemen. avoid makati escorts and scarlett like the plague. worst time i have ever had!
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.man thanks for that info. i am arriving next week and was planning to call makati escorts even though i suspected the service was average.
200 bucks imagine what that would get in edsa . my firt stop next week!
cheers
Yes, GF - I tried (as I had in the past) to register a new friend, and they said tha I did not even have to do that!Yes it is ok. Earlier this month, I arranged for my GF to check into the room before I got there. As she was coming by bus, and I by plane. She had to pay 2000 peso deposit for incidentals (I had the room covered on my CC). And when I got there, they used my card for the deposit and gave her the 2000 back.
I'm going back tomorrow and have the same arrangement.
Wicked Roger
02-02-10, 20:50
Sorry Robb. You shouldn't be taking the hit for me.
We went to my room across from Havana, and after 2 hours, I paid her (3000), and let the other girl go.
It pays to be nice sometimes. For these girls, it is refreshing when they meet someone who is actually nice to them, and cares about their well being sometimes.
But sometimes. You do get those girls where. They take your money. Then they fill their bags with all the cookies and chocs, from the room. Etc. Etc.
It is part of the whole thing.
For me, personally, it is bad enough that they have to fuck a stranger, so I give, because, I want to.
Inflating the price, mayB. But someone else is going to come and deflate it back. And there are plenty of girls, of all kinds of attitudes, shapes and sizes. If you are smart, you will notice, the ones that will take care of you. It doesn't matter if they are not the greatest looking gals. But they will take care of you. But make sure they have great body.
At Havana Cafe, you will get a nice girl for 3000. Just go late. You go early, it will be expensive, and the girl would try to leave early so she can get a "second" round in for the night!
Like Robb says, I paid for what I wanted. Not just sex.
CT
I agree with your sentiments (as well as Robb's comments). For me being nice always pays dividends, when I return to Manila I sometimes spend a night or two with a girls I have met previously and it always pays dividends - longer time, more fun, more shagging :) .... I get texts from them asking when am back and if I have any nice friends...so it does pay to be nice even if you are a kinky old bastard like me
And havingt o shag ugly strangers - well add bald and fat into that (well in my case) and I should be paying more than 3000 pesos :D
Havana never disappoints me while LA Cafe has, and I prefer Makati and likely too lazy to cab over to LA. Prices are what you want to pay and 3000 pesos is not expensive for many of us but is a lot for many of them, so I am always generous, never a cheap charlie and let them raid all the toiletries before they leave the room (but not the mini bar...)
It does not cost much to be nice and so what if we slightly inflate a price because there are many cheap charlies out there who will try 1000 pesos or less!!
Member #3428
02-02-10, 21:02
It does not cost much to be nice and so what if we slightly inflate a price because there are many cheap charlies out there who will try 1000 pesos or less!!
Inflate the price / Cheap Charlie / etc... tiring debates...
Some guys like you fly in and 3,000 peso for where you are from and your situation is not a lot and I know you get a lot out of girls. For others who live in PI and get one shag or such then 1,000 peso is fine.
You're not a one shag and bye bye kind of guy. Some of us have extra curricular activities going on with the ladies, more photo's / video, more training, and multiple shots. One session can go 20 to 40 hours.
So let's clarify... I and you pay well, 3-4000 peso, but we're not ruining the going rate as the lady is doing a hell of a lot that most posters do not realize. Even on a recent DIA 20 year old she went through training like she never imagined and she was surprised as heck that I gave her some funds, which she went out and bought me a present with ;)
You and I don't pay 3,000 peso for one shot on goal and leave it at that... So in reality I don't think we overpay at all, if anything for what we do we underpay.
Finally got around to seeing Joan.
Great report CS. After seeing your photos, she is better looking then on CL, I wish that I had waited the two hours to meet her:(
If you like a real raunchy PSE with a girl who also does a good GFE as well, Joan is the real deal. But get there pretty quickly as she says that she is going to hang up her dildos in a few weeks, when she hopes to open a legitimate business.
I wonder how long she will last in a legitimate business? I think as soon as she misses the money she will be back, or maybe use her cell for past contacts.
Robb
Cunning Stunt
02-03-10, 03:42
I wonder how long she will last in a legitimate business? I think as soon as she misses the money she will be back, or maybe use her cell for past contacts.
Yes, that is what I thought, particularly as she appears to so thoroughly enjoy her present job. She told me that her foreign boyfriend left her due to her incessant demands for sex, often up to ten times a day. She never mentioned if he went feet first:).
She sure shagged me into submission!
Happy Harry
02-04-10, 13:35
Hi guys, just a quick question off the topic.
I'm intending to come to manila around April to get some dental work done.. i.e. surgical wisdom teeth removal. Apparently the recovery time is around a week for the swelling to go down.
Does anyone know of a good dental hospital? I've contact St. Luke but they're quite expensive (2k US ballpark).
Can anyone suggest a good place to rent for 1-2 weeks? I'm hoping to get in a few days of mongering b4 going into surgery.
Should I get it done, and go to AC to recuperate b/c the accom is cheaper?
I'm thinking of spending around $70 per nite max.
I've RTFF and looked all the accomodation up but I just want to be sure that I'll find a place that has a decent bed, good cable, and acceptable wifi.
Thanks in advance
PolyOrchid
02-04-10, 14:57
Can anyone suggest a good place to rent for 1-2 weeks? I'm hoping to get in a few days of mongering b4 going into surgery.Harry, I would highly recommend Makati Apartelle, www.makatiapartelle.com. It's in a great part of town and all rooms are 985PHP. It's clean, new-ish, has free wi-fi and great people running it.
Hi guys, just a quick question off the topic.
I'm intending to come to manila around April to get some dental work done.. i.e. surgical wisdom teeth removal. Apparently the recovery time is around a week for the swelling to go down.
Does anyone know of a good dental hospital? I've contact St. Luke but they're quite expensive (2k US ballpark).
Can anyone suggest a good place to rent for 1-2 weeks? I'm hoping to get in a few days of mongering b4 going into surgery.
Should I get it done, and go to AC to recuperate b/c the accom is cheaper?
I'm thinking of spending around $70 per nite max.
I've RTFF and looked all the accomodation up but I just want to be sure that I'll find a place that has a decent bed, good cable, and acceptable wifi.
Thanks in advance
If I was you, I would go directly to AC and go to Smile Make Over:)
http://smilemakeoverdentalclinic.com/
I have been there twice, great prices and great service. You can email them from their website and they respond fast.
Robb
Captain America
02-04-10, 22:47
If you end up staying in manila, $70 will cover the hotel, WIFI AND a young lady to keep you company every night if you stay at the executive plaza and pick up at la cafe. I even believe there's a good dentist inside robinsons mall mentioned elsewhere in this thread.
I'll second that. I've had two crowns done there a few years ago about the time Harry the Horse first recommended them on his web site. They have a new, very central location, but when they were at the old place my dentist -- a single woman, whoo, whoo -- drove me in her new smelling Toyota (gas pedal seemed to be working properly) and dropped me off at my hotel. You can have a woman putting her tools into your mouth and then one hour later you can have your tool in a different woman's mouth.
Prices have gone up since I was last there, but still reasonable.
X
If I was you, I would go directly to AC and go to Smile Make Over:)
http://smilemakeoverdentalclinic.com/
I have been there twice, great prices and great service. You can email them from their website and they respond fast.
Robb
Howdy there, I'm new to the Philippines all together. I wanted to Know if I should come to Manila and stay or go to AC.
And Any simple frister stuff.
Thanks
Happy Harry
02-05-10, 13:52
Thanks a lot guys. I've sent them an email requesting more information. In regards to the accom however, I was hoping to spend a little more. For ST, i would be happy with the one Polyorchid but I'll be cooped up in the damn room for probably 3-4 days so I would want something a little nicer. AC or manila?
Travelin Dog
02-06-10, 09:12
Well, it looks like Joan was true to her word.
I will be in Manila soon and contacted her about meeting next weekend, and she told me she is no longer escorting.
She did offer a few of her friends though.
Pity, as after all the great ISG build up, I was really looking forward to seeing her.
Hmmm. What to do. What to do?
Finally got around to seeing Joan. We met at my preferred ST venue, Eurotel, Pedro Gil and she was very prompt, arriving only 5 minutes later than our mutually agreed time, which is always a good sign, particularly as she lives way out in Cavite.
She looks good enough to eat. She is a tiny wisp of a thing, 22 and only 4 foot 10 and 80 pounds soaking wet. She is very brown skinned and Pinay looking with a little button nose and an astonishingly dirty laugh. Great, tight little body with a cracking butt and the usual tiny little Jolibee tummy. No kids. She has one piercing – her tongue, which she was later to use to remarkably good effect. Her English is excellent – she said she had lost her cherry 2 years before to an English boyfriend …hmmm. An altogether lovely, little spinner.
No wonder she gets absolute rave reviews. As a nympho, this girl leaves even Ana standing at the gate. I pride myself on being able to outstay most Pinay fillies but this girl had me seriously flagging. Good job that she brought a selection of toys with her, including a vibrator and a fucking great black strap-on dildo which looked like it would split her in two. So, whilst I recovered in between shags, we pleasured her with toys. She is genuinely multi-orgasmic and appeared to be getting as much fun as I was.
She will do anything for pleasure except SM (although she loves being doggy spanked, really hard!!). Anal is permitted if your tool is small/medium sized, which negated my chances;). DT is excellent and she really does swallow if you insist, which I, being a gentleman, did not. For such a tiny girl, she loves being given it hard and deep and no whining about it being ‘too beeg’, just a lot of squeaks and genuine moaning.
She is bisexual and has a stable of 4 friends (two 19, one 20 and one 21 year old) who can join her. One is lactating, if that is your thing. If you are really perverted, she also has a LB friend:eek:.
She actually instructs you to bring a camera and take as many shots/videos as possible!
If you like a real raunchy PSE with a girl who also does a good GFE as well, Joan is the real deal. But get there pretty quickly as she says that she is going to hang up her dildos in a few weeks, when she hopes to open a legitimate business.
Posted a few photos in the appropriate place(http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983202&postcount=2445).
Rubio Tonto
02-06-10, 09:34
Harry, in your case, I'd stay in AC at the Lewis Grand, ABC Hotel, or Pacific Breeze. All are in the $ ballpark you're looking for, and all are pretty decent. The PB is closer to the action on Fields, while the ABC and the LG are both out towards the Perimeter.
Howdy there, I'm new to the Philippines all together. I wanted to Know if I should come to Manila and stay or go to AC.
And Any simple frister stuff.
Thanks
Angeles is more purpose-built for mongering, though that used to come at quite a price in boredom for lack of other available activities. Less so now. But getting good results out of the bars takes a surprising amount of work, and it's easy to see why guys tend to hold onto good ones for 2-3 days (or more, but that's its own can of worms). The whole "cherry girl" bit can seem ridiculous, and there's also the age-old problem of being short-timed when they're supposed to stay the night.
Manila, OTOH, can be a jungle in general, and lodging is a worse value than Angeles or certainly Thailand. You get to run a worse gauntlet of beggars, hawkers and con types just to walk around on the streets, but the freelancers are abundant and there are exploration opportunities (shopping/eating/movies/etc.) with much wider choice than Angeles. Malate is also nicely compact in area.
but the freelancers are abundant
Where do they hang out other than LA cafe?
You already have a good report from Ploughman. You'd probably get more replies, more info if you gave basic info about your length of stay/intentions and circumstances / budget, etc. My quick answer would be to do both if you have more than three days. X
Howdy there, I'm new to the Philippines all together. I wanted to Know if I should come to Manila and stay or go to AC.
And Any simple frister stuff.
Thanks
The malls, the streets, the dance clubs, online. See reports about Greenbelt / havana cafe in the Makati section. I once spent the night with an EDSA go go girl and then accidently ran into her the next night at Hard Rock Cafe.
And sometimes it's hard to know the difference between a p4p freelancer and a regular gal who wants some action ...for whatever reason.
Where do they hang out other than LA cafe?
Thanks a lot Guys. I am a 31 year old white male. I willbe there for 8 days and 7 night around the frist week of March. As for cash I planned on about 2G's US fun cash for the trip " thats not for the flight or room" If its AC I have cotacted the Swiss And DP's for a room I am wating to hear Back. I have been playing for years in the states, But for the last year in Japan. I really don't like there way of doing thigs here. This will be my frist real trip here. I am just looking for fun and nice girls. I also don't want to seame like a jack*** while there and couse trouble for the regs. I would like to be come one with a couple of trips a year if this all works out.
You already have a good report from Ploughman. You'd probably get more replies, more info if you gave basic info about your length of stay/intentions and circumstances / budget, etc. My quick answer would be to do both if you have more than three days. X
Well, it looks like Joan was true to her word.
I will be in Manila soon and contacted her about meeting next weekend, and she told me she is no longer escorting.
She did offer a few of her friends though.
Pity, as after all the great ISG build up, I was really looking forward to seeing her.
Hmmm. What to do. What to do?
Damn CS you broke her:D
Robb
Cunning Stunt
02-07-10, 02:31
Well, it looks like Joan was true to her word.
I don't believe it! It was only last weekend that I saw her and she told me that she intended putting up the shutters in a few weeks, not a few days.
I suspect business is very brisk and her diary is full, so she fobbed you off.
If true, it is a great loss to PSE mongering in Manila. Especially as Ana has gone international;).
Angeles is more purpose-built for mongering, though that used to come at quite a price in boredom for lack of other available activities. Less so now. But getting good results out of the bars takes a surprising amount of work, and it's easy to see why guys tend to hold onto good ones for 2-3 days (or more, but that's its own can of worms). The whole "cherry girl" bit can seem ridiculous, and there's also the age-old problem of being short-timed when they're supposed to stay the night.
Manila, OTOH, can be a jungle in general, and lodging is a worse value than Angeles or certainly Thailand. You get to run a worse gauntlet of beggars, hawkers and con types just to walk around on the streets, but the freelancers are abundant and there are exploration opportunities (shopping/eating/movies/etc.) with much wider choice than Angeles. Malate is also nicely compact in area.
Off the subject I went with my GF to Mall of asia food court. There is a steak place there with very good steaks. It is very cheap and seems to be good quality. Only drawback is if you take a taxi , mall of asia will cost you a lot but if you take a jeepney it will be very cheap to get there. Imax theater is very good also.
Stayed at Palm plaza hotel , good value,clean for 2300 pesos/night from asiatravel. Next to robinson Mall but I did not like the food court there.
Went couple of times to LA cafe saw couple of cuties but since i was staying with my GF did not partake. Girls usually asked 2000 pesos LT but can be easily brought down to 1500 pesos. All the cute girls I talked to had a baby, slight belly, boobs pushed up by bra. Did not see any stunners at all. looks like the quality is going down from 6 months ago when I was there.
Off the subject I went with my GF to mall Of asia food court. There is a steak place there with very good steaks. . I think you are talking about Highlands. There is another steak place in the Mall Of Asia (it is not located in the food court) known as the New Yorker ( I think) and the food is American standard in terms of quality and taste. It is expensive though.
went couple of times to LA cafe saw couple of cuties but since i was staying with my GF did not partake. Girls usually asked 2000 pesos LT but can be easily brought down to 1500 pesos. All the cute girls I talked to had a baby, slight belly, boobs pushed up by bra. Did not see any stunners at all. looks like the quality is going down from 6 months ago when I was there.I have not hit LA Cafe since June ... My Manila office girls are riding me to an early grave.
On that note I read on a another forum that the talent at LA Café is down so must be some truth in it. I believe the poster said in a cool way that "All he saw was products way past their expiration date."
Went couple of times to LA cafe saw couple of cuties but since i was staying with my GF did not partake. Girls usually asked 2000 pesos LT but can be easily brought down to 1500 pesos. All the cute girls I talked to had a baby, slight belly, boobs pushed up by bra. Did not see any stunners at all. looks like the quality is going down from 6 months ago when I was there.
I was there a few months ago and agree that most of the talent was undesirable. Way too many mothers and almost all girls smoke(not my thing). There were a few lookers on the top floor, but would only go 2k ST and were mainly looking for koreans.
I was there a few months ago and agree that most of the talent was undesirable. Way too many mothers and almost all girls smoke(not my thing). There were a few lookers on the top floor, but would only go 2k ST and were mainly looking for koreans.I gone to La Cafe last week, yes the nice ones are at the first floor and mostly looking for asian guy (korean or japanese) as they can get more pesos.
But if you are kind and smart, they can accept 1500P for a LT. Avoid the sunday night, not many girls stay there.
I also tried the G point Bar, located close to City state tower hotel, have sometimes some nice freelances.
It sounds like there are a few interesting stories there D'etat. If you find time, please share. I rarely venture into Makati, so I'm not looking for tips or leads. I just want to enjoy some vicarious thrills.
As for LA cafe, it can be truly horrible at times. I'm not a smoker, so that alone can be an unpleasant byproduct of one's search for companionship. But sometimes the stars align.....
X
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I have not hit LA Cafe since June ... My Manila office girls are riding me to an early grave.
On that note I read on a another forum that the talent at LA Café is down so must be some truth in it. I believe the poster said in a cool way that "All he saw was products way past their expiration date."
FreebieFan
02-08-10, 01:01
arrived manila thursday and was ready to hit the ground running.
met a regular on thursday shortly after arrival and we decamped to my condo for an evening of fine loving.
ms be is 21, and had clearly undergone an image change with cute short hair, nice culottes (which didn't stay on long!). anyways fun night with several sessions. shes growing to like the vibrator too.
friday morning did some work then went back to mall on friday afternoon for ms tagged. had sent me mesages every day telling me she was nervous and had never met foreign bf before (heard that one million times) etcetc. we met, and she was ok but not a superstar. anyways off to eurotel in pasay road (p640 standard room p800 suite room). for a nervous girl, she wasnt exactly shy. after ten minutes she reveals a nice red and gold bra with matching panties. did the normal and dropped her off 2. 5 hours later. had a shower then headed for mall to meet another lady, this time from dia. she had been dropping hints by sms that "she was so excited to meet me". etcetc. she was ms d.
id only seen one pic of her on dia but looked ok. i was very happy to see a very sweet lady waiting for me, in nice dress, matching shoes, 5ft, 92 pounds with big happy smile. after a minute she takes my arm, after two mins were walking hand in hand like bf/gf. a few drinks, something to eat in bonifacio high street then back to my condo. a gooooood day and a great night.
saturday am and had to do some work, then assumed would be meeting the nurse, a regular visitor from pampanga. sadly, she had some gradution thing with her daughter to handle.
anyways plan be was another dia lady, miss j, who was a former bar girl.
well we get to eurotel and asks me if i had a vibrator. i did and she requested to use it after we had had our jollies. she said my vibrator was significantly better than hers and proved her point with a long squirt. lol.
we return to basement car park in cinema square which is very dark. so for fun i ask if she likes riding topless. she was game and so we drove back to mall with her topless. (i have good tinting!) half way through the ride, she asks to borrow my vibrator again, and there she is with vibrator in her panties, topless in my car as we went down edsa and mckinley. great site to c.
from there a saturday night out. had lots of fun in pussycat, a bar i don't generally go to.
sunday morning and had arranged for miss b(2) from tagged. 36 years old, says hasnt been with a guy for 5 years since husband got himself a new wife. she was a bit rep001ter brained, but cute in a slightly past her best sort of way. went to sogo and she gave a wonderful blow job. p200 taxi fare and that was that.
a cute young 20 year old ms are had been sending me sms all weekend asking to meet. first she wanted to meet me with her mom (no way) then with friends (also no) and finally she said could she come with her sister. i agreed on basis that sis would dissapear.
so having dropped miss be (2) off, met her. 20 but looked 15. sister was 12 i think. gave sis p100 to go buy jollibee and we went for a drive. girl was virgin, never been kissed and i think for sure had never met foreigner before.
we had nice drive, ended up making out in a car park, and maybe one for the future. she sent me sms later stating " would i mind if she gave herself to me". hmmm maybe i wouldn't lol. get to you next time, love.
from there met the orginal miss be for some lunch then home, pack, and flew out. another great but damned tiring weekend.
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Fast Eddie 48
02-08-10, 01:25
It sounds like there are a few interesting stories there D'etat. If you find time, please share. I rarely venture into Makati, so I'm not looking for tips or leads. I just want to enjoy some vicarious thrills.
As for LA cafe, it can be truly horrible at times. I'm not a smoker, so that alone can be an unpleasant byproduct of one's search for companionship. But sometimes the stars align.....
XX,
The LA cafe have alway be a hit and miss place, I remember the good old days back in 1999 first time there you can get ST for 600 p now most girl want 1500 p and most are not doable at all, just go to AC and forget about manila all together.
Fast Eddie 48
Was in Manila weeks ago, only posting now.
Did a variety of things including Asian Entertainment Club on Roxas road, LA Cafe, Club Havana, and in room hotel massage.
I arrived late but went out anyway with significant jet lag. Got in hotel cab, he wanted to take me to one of the houses. I thought it'd be interesting to see, so went to a house where there were 4 guys working the door, and then a large living room encircled with couches, where about 25 ladies were sitting. I didn't feel comfortable with the scene, so I bailed, driver said Asian Entertainment had the best looking gals, naked dancing. Sounded like Pegasus deal in Bangkok that does a decent job of screening the gals, so I went there. Sure enough, most of the gals on stage were no less than 8's. Mama brought over a gal to sit w me. Just didn't click. One gal looked wild and did an impressive dance, so she came back to hotel w me.
Good time, but she was going to leave in a couple of hours, so I just said to go.
I pick up my best friend at the airport around noon and head for the City State Tower Hotel on Mabini St. The Deluxe rooms aren’t bad for $60 a night…large, clean and roomy. I tried the Standard rooms there last year and wasn’t impressed. Too darn small! Felt like I was in a box. After check-in my friend stops by my room and cracks open a bottle JW Green label he bought at the airport Duty Free store. We do several shots and catch up on old times. Halfway plastered, we decide it’s time to take showers and head out for the evening.
We hit LA Café early before the upstairs area opened. Even then there was a nice selection in the bar already. We sit at the bar and order up some beer. It takes me about two hours before I find a girl I’m interested in…girl #8. My friend takes a little longer, but he finally makes his selection. We ply them with drinks for a while and then head for the door.
The disco wasn’t on my agenda that night, but he was feeling it, so I humored him and went anyway since it was his first night in town. Honestly, I was already tired and wanted to get back to the hotel, shag #8 and get some sleep because we had to catch the bus to Batangas port at 8AM to catch the ferry to Puetro Galera. Off to the disco we went.
Being as tired as I was, dancing for several hours really took it out of me. I knew I wasn’t going to be good for two pops with girl # 8 before check-out in the morning. We got back to the rooms near 2AM. I told my friend the bus left at 8AM so he should pack and be ready, then we parted ways. Girl #8 was first in the shower. I was damn near asleep when she came out. After I showered we did the deed. Not my best performance by a long shot. It was down and dirty because I just wanted to bust a nut and then sleep. She seemed to understand this and was ok with it. Ten minutes max and I was snoring!
My alarm rang early…too damn early. Girl #8 and I took showers; I gave her Peso 1000 and said goodbye. My friend and I checked-out and caught the bus to Batangas Port to catch the ferry to Puerto Galera for our next adventure.
Yella Man
I was upstairs in LA Cafe the other night enjoying the band. Have to admit they are pretty good. After they finished, I found some rapport with a decent looker who seemed like a nice person. Got to the negotiation: she wanted 2500 for ST and would not go lower than 2000. Dang price inflation. I said no thanks.
While I saw lookers downstairs, I usually do not like that scene so I moved up the street to Amazonia. Found a doable one there. She wanted 1500 ST and would not budge. Did I say something about price inflation? The kicker is she offered to do the deed in the Amazonia ST room which I think was going to add another 300 to the damage. No thanks.
By this time, it was late, I was tired and facing an early wake up so I returned without to the hotel.
While I saw lookers downstairs, I usually do not like that scene so I moved up the street to Amazonia. Found a doable one there. She wanted 1500 ST and would not budge. Did I say something about price inflation? The kicker is she offered to do the deed in the Amazonia ST room which I think was going to add another 300 to the damage. No thanks.
By this time, it was late, I was tired and facing an early wake up so I returned without to the hotel.You mustn't have been too fussed to have a companion then. 1500 php is a standard price now and the better-looking girls will not go below it.
The rooms at Amazonia are 600 for 3 hours, not 300. (I might stand corrected if you mean rooms without A/c; they might be 300 but they will be VERY warm so I have never had them. Always the 600 room)
Hi
I'm staying in the Lotus Garden. As it'll be my first time in PH and I'm arriving late I want to take the safe option and have a taxi waiting for me at the airport. The hotel wants 1500PHP, which seems a bit expensive. Or maybe not, I don't know. Any better suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
A
Seems on par with what i payed recently. I do not recall what i payed, what you can do is go to information desk at the airport, they will arrange taxi for you.
I'm staying in the Lotus Garden. As it'll be my first time in PH and I'm arriving late I want to take the safe option and have a taxi waiting for me at the airport. The hotel wants 1500PHP, which seems a bit expensive. Or maybe not, I don't know. Any better suggestions?
That's more then expensive, that's outrageous for a 12 km ride!
There are prepaid taxis available for around 450 php to Ermita.
Or better yet grab a yellow cab, should be no more then 250 php including tip!
Enjoy Manila
I was upstairs in LA Cafe the other night enjoying the band. Have to admit they are pretty good. After they finished, I found some rapport with a decent looker who seemed like a nice person. Got to the negotiation: she wanted 2500 for ST and would not go lower than 2000. Dang price inflation. I said no thanks.
While I saw lookers downstairs, I usually do not like that scene so I moved up the street to Amazonia. Found a doable one there. She wanted 1500 ST and would not budge. Did I say something about price inflation? The kicker is she offered to do the deed in the Amazonia ST room which I think was going to add another 300 to the damage. No thanks.
By this time, it was late, I was tired and facing an early wake up so I returned without to the hotel.
Finrod, good report, but I am curious, you would not pay 1500ST in Manila? You must of lived in AC for years. I bet some readers think you are crazy, as they are back home paying $150 to $250 and here you are complaining for
$32.
Robb
Hi
I'm staying in the Lotus Garden. As it'll be my first time in PH and I'm arriving late I want to take the safe option and have a taxi waiting for me at the airport. The hotel wants 1500PHP, which seems a bit expensive. Or maybe not, I don't know. Any better suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
A
If you are flying into Terminal 1 make sure they tell you where the pick up point is. When you arrive if the hotel isn't allowed on the arrival deck, you will have to walk down the ramp to the arrival area.
For a first visit if they are allowed to pick up at the arrival door, it is a good deal.
Robb
Member #3428
02-12-10, 22:25
For a first visit if they are allowed to pick up at the arrival door, it is a good deal.
Robb
While the airport taxis have a higher price then most taxi's due to their monopoly I find the new system good, safe, efficient, never waiting more then 1 minute to grab a cab. And they are closer to the doors then the hotel pick up area usually.
Artful... right now (and only recently will I say this), after years of flying through Manila, I would not hesitate to tell folks to take an airport cab. I would not be worried about the airport cab system now.
But then again, when my firms are picking up the bills and paying the bills only and not a per diem heck yes get a hotel car and stiff them with the high costs. ;)
... I would not hesitate to tell folks to take an airport cab. I would not be worried about the airport cab system now ...
I second that! In the past I was also carrying my heavy luggage 300 meters to the main street, just to struggle then with the taxi driver to flag the meter! Too upsetting, too exhausting in the heat of the day and too uncomfortable in the dark! Nowadays I simply do not care to pay about 300 pesos more for a ride to Ermita!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Captain America
02-13-10, 01:19
Artful, don't worry about a hotel car. For about half (700php) an aorport taxi will take you to lotus garden just as quickly and safely.if you want to safe more money, they now allow yellow and white texis into the airport as well and those drivers have lower metered rates AND will help you pick up a cutie on the way to the hotel.
As far as inflation goes, PHP1500ST seems high for amazonia/la cafe. She'd have to be something special (or me especially horny)for me to pay that.it's not about what you pay at home, it's what you get for your money once you get to the land of the LBFM's.
:-)
Puerto La Cruz
02-13-10, 02:10
I grab my luggage and go to the money changing station barely to the left when I am exiting, then grab a couple of hundred USD. Another 50 yards at the most from there in a direct line is the taxi office with fares posted. You have to go into the office. Indeed they are more expensive than other alternatives but at 1:00 a.m. in Manila, I have always had great and safe service. To me its worth the extra 200 or 300 pesos. Eight bucks or less.
Hope to be doing the same routine in about six weeks.
GoodEnough
02-13-10, 03:51
While the airport taxis have a higher price then most taxi's due to their monopoly I find the new system good, safe, efficient, never waiting more then 1 minute to grab a cab. And they are closer to the doors then the hotel pick up area usually.
Artful... right now (and only recently will I say this), after years of flying through Manila, I would not hesitate to tell folks to take an airport cab. I would not be worried about the airport cab system now.
But then again, when my firms are picking up the bills and paying the bills only and not a per diem heck yes get a hotel car and stiff them with the high costs. ;)
I use the airport taxis when flying into Manila on week ends, when our company cars and drivers aren't available. I like the system. It costs me Php330 to go from the airport to Makati. The cabs are clean, efficient and best of all, available immediately. There's no arguing about the fare and no heated discussion about whether or not to use the meter. The price is posted and fixed.
Key Master
02-13-10, 06:48
To me, you should just follow the signs for metered taxi or public taxi, can't remember what it is now. You'll see a line of yellow metered taxis and that's what you want. The meter starts at 70 pesos. I figure from there it'll cost around 220 pesos in one of those, and they are clean relatively new cabs. Just make sure the meter is on and reset to 70 from the start. I have had a few try to run scams, where now I totally make sure the meter is on. I always do that when getting a taxi from the street and was not thinking these official airport taxis would try and scam but for awhile I had a bad streak on them. The last two trips, one now, I haven't had any issues, but I"m also watching it. The ride from there isn't going to be very long late at night. I'd say about 15-25 minutes at most.
Just last November, I was pulling FLs for ST for 1000pp in Ermita, though I never ventured into LA Cafe. I found them in Amazonia, Butterfly Bar, Gpoint or that old mall-trolling standby, Robinson's. Guess inflation sure happened right quick... If the going rate really is 1500 now, I can accept that; I didn't want to be someone who contributes to price inflation by paying too much.
Key Master
02-13-10, 15:15
Just last November, I was pulling FLs for ST for 1000pp in Ermita, though I never ventured into LA Cafe. I found them in Amazonia, Butterfly Bar, Gpoint or that old mall-trolling standby, Robinson's. Guess inflation sure happened right quick... If the going rate really is 1500 now, I can accept that; I didn't want to be someone who contributes to price inflation by paying too much.It all depends on the girl and how much she likes someone and time and all. You don't have to pay 1500 ST at LA Cafe. I think a lot of the girls will be happy with 1000 there even the cute ones downstairs. They want the 1500 but they can also rot there all night. If a cute one refuses to go for 1000, maybe counter with 1200. Price isn't fixed there.
I use the airport taxis when flying into Manila on week ends, when our company cars and drivers aren't available. I like the system. It costs me Php330 to go from the airport to Makati. The cabs are clean, efficient and best of all, available immediately. There's no arguing about the fare and no heated discussion about whether or not to use the meter. The price is posted and fixed.
I know where the coupon taxis are in Terminal 2, and I always use them, but where are they located at Terminal 1? I think that is where he is flying in to.
Robb
Member #3428
02-14-10, 06:41
I know where the coupon taxis are in Terminal 2, and I always use them, but where are they located at Terminal 1? I think that is where he is flying in to.
RobbYeah I also think we are mixing up the terminals.
NAIA terminal 1 is where I'm talking about going out the doors, hanging a left, grabbing a yellow airport taxi over to Makati.
I do this no hassles now a days at 10 pm or so arrival from Guam flight.
Better yet, don't talk price at all. When she decides to leave, give her 1k. Most accept it, especially if you've been nice and respectful. If they raise a stink, give a little more.
If you're fat, ugly, smelly, or Warbucks, you should give more. X
It all depends on the girl and how much she likes someone and time and all. You don't have to pay 1500 ST at LA Cafe. I think a lot of the girls will be happy with 1000 there even the cute ones downstairs. They want the 1500 but they can also rot there all night. If a cute one refuses to go for 1000, maybe counter with 1200. Price isn't fixed there.
Peso is doing well and has been so for really some time now, as in years. The call center people and exporters, are tearing their hair out about the strength of the peso. When you look at your losses for conversion fees. Pays to hold onto cash pesos even if going out of country for many many months.
I usually say to them: "Look, if you are that good in bed I will pay you 1500p." I have found this usually give them an extra incentive.
i went to the edsa entertainment complex last night and i was not impressed.
edsa is sort of like a big barn with 7 or 8 go-go bars in it. when you walk in, the very first thing that happens to you is that a couple touts from the various bars aggressively try to get you into their bar. some of these touts of male…some are female.
the good news is that you can peek into each bar without going in. the bad news is that you can’t walk more than a couple feet without another batch of aggressive touts pestering you to go into their bar.
each bar had girls dancing in bikinis. i did not see any nudity.
i didn’t see any spectacular talent either. i’d say most of the girls were 5’s, 6’s, and 7’s. there were a couple cuties but nothing that really gave me a woodie.
went into the spice (or was it space?) club. when you enter a bar, the hard sell really picks up. several girls immediately swarm on you, asking for lady drinks and to go home with you. sadly, the most aggressive girls seem to be the ugly ones. even after dismissing the first wave of unwelcome women, a second and even third wave of pests attack you.
the girls finally figured out that i didn’t want to be bothered but then another wave of older, ugly women (who double as mama-sans, i think) try to give you a back massage for which they expect to be paid.
i did invite one good looking girl to join me. young, hot body, beautiful face but horrible teeth. bought her a lady drink (195 pesos) and was told that the bar fine was 1,400 and that she wanted 3,000 for st and 5,500 for lt.
screw that.
finished my 120 peso beer and left. as soon as i walked outside, i was swarmed by 3-4 taxi touts all trying to put you into unofficial cabs that no doubt would have tried to gouge anybody stupid enough to go into these unmarked vehicles.
overall, i hated the place and i’ll never set foot in there again. la café is the place for me.
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After deciding that the EDSA Entertainment Complex was a waste of time, I went to the Havana Café in Greenbelt 3 (Makati area).
First of all, I have read several reports that said that you could score some pussy at Café Havana and/or Starbucks at any time of the day. However, I did not find any freelancers working either place (which are next to each other) during the daylight hours. There are lots of young, pretty girls there but none of them were giving me the ‘lets-do-some-business’ look.
It is quite a different story in the evening after the music starts up. I arrived around 1:00 AM and the place was jumping with poontang.
There were two groups of women for the taking. The first group is inside Café Havana dancing by themselves. All you have to do is shuffle over to the cutie of your choice and start dancing with her. The ladies will smile at you if they are interested. Easy but you have to approach them.
The second group of chickies was sitting at the outdoor tables, usually in group of 2-4. Like on the dance floor, they will shoot you the I-want-to-fuck-you look and you have to make the move to their table.
I ended up with a young cutie that was actually offended the next morning when I offered her some money. “Just give me cab fare. I’m not a hooker.”
Café Havana has a nice mix of both P4P girls and some regular girls just looking for some foreign sausage.
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Member #3428
02-18-10, 12:42
We have a condo in Manila that we do not want to sell but want to RENT. We want to keep it for long term and are looking for some top rental agencies. We were advised of http://www.asahi.ph/eng/ Anyone have experience with any other firm. Like what are the top five real estate leasing offices...
Viajando Musico
02-18-10, 22:24
I ended up with a young cutie that was actually offended the next morning when I offered her some money. “Just give me cab fare. I’m not a hooker.”
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If she is a regular girl, then why ask for cab fair? I think she probabaly likes you and want to play the innocent game and see what develops.
Cunning Stunt
02-19-10, 03:22
We have a condo in Manila that we do not want to sell but want to RENT. We want to keep it for long term and are looking for some top rental agencies. We were advised of http://www.asahi.ph/eng/ Anyone have experience with any other firm. Like what are the top five real estate leasing offices...
Have a look at http://www.pearlslettingagency.com/. With so many new condo developments springing up everywhere, there seems to be a shortage of reputable letting agencies. Has to be an opportunity there for an aspiring entrepreneur.
Member #3428
02-19-10, 03:33
Has to be an opportunity there for an aspiring entrepreneur.
Thanks, yes we are having some issues. With most our work moving to other countries it is cheaper to stay in a hotel then maintain the condo but we don't want to sell it. So we want to lease it out long term but keep possession of it on our financials and for future use.
So finding a firm that will manage, maintain, ensure proper upkeep etc... is providing interesting...
I had only two nights in Manila, found Exec Plaza acceptable. Took girls on two occasions from LA Cafe (1200 and 1500) and once from G-PLace (1000). All three gave excellent GFE.
When you get there, try to get your bearings by wandering around if it is daytime (or same night time if you are more confident about staying safe). There is a mass of helpful info on here as well as other sites, but some of it is secondhand, hard to follow, or simply incorrect (maybe posted after a few beers ?) If people living there feel kind and so inclined, careful info which when you read it back and would be easy to follow if you are new would be very helpful.
Regards
Just cruised by the Cafe Havana (and Starbucks) at 6:00 on a Friday night. Lots of people buy mainly couples and groups. I didn't see very many unescorted women and none of them flashed the I-want-to-fuck-you smile to me.
Conclusion: Cafe Havana is great but not until 10 or 11.
I ended up with a young cutie that was actually offended the next morning when I offered her some money. “Just give me cab fare. I’m not a hooker.”
Some working girls are willing to go great lengths to maintain the image of a 'good girl'. These would never openly admit they are expecting money, no matter how much you pressure. Its possible that the money was presented in a way that offered her no avenue to maintain her 'good girl' image if she accepted.
I know a few seasonal free lancers (with normal day jobs) who would forego good money for this reason. For them, "saving face" is much more important than accepting a direct offer of money. But they would be secretly disappointed.
Its usually a good idea to just step up, slip money into her purse and simply call it 'taxi fare', or 'payment for the baby sitter'.
Gumby.
Hi guys, just a quick question off the topic.
I'm intending to come to manila around April to get some dental work done.. i.e. surgical wisdom teeth removal. Apparently the recovery time is around a week for the swelling to go down.
Does anyone know of a good dental hospital? I've contact St. Luke but they're quite expensive (2k US ballpark).
Can anyone suggest a good place to rent for 1-2 weeks? I'm hoping to get in a few days of mongering b4 going into surgery.
Should I get it done, and go to AC to recuperate b/c the accom is cheaper?
I'm thinking of spending around $70 per nite max.
I've RTFF and looked all the accomodation up but I just want to be sure that I'll find a place that has a decent bed, good cable, and acceptable wifi.
Thanks in advance
I just had this done in Manila, paid $1200 for all four at a dentist in Makati. I overpaid for sure since he has a fancy website and caters to celebs and foreigners. Don't worry about the recovery if you go to a good dentist. I actually hooked up with a girl the same night as my procedure.
Spent about two weeks in PI as my first visit. First want to thank Freebiefan and Ploughman for meeting up with me and giving me some good advice/tips. I only ended up doing one pro and stuck with DIA and waitress/mall worker types. I'm the guy Freebiefan mentioned meeting and having difficulti with DIA girls. Well with trial and error and some tips from him things started rolling the next day to the point where I sent home two girls after meeting because the looks just weren't up to par compared to photos. I was very straightforward in my DIA profile about not looking for a wife, no webcam, no sending money, etc and just flat out said wanted to meet girls for fun during my visit. To anyone who responded I asked for phone number and no further conversations on DIA. After that it was all texts, when I checked the counter on the phone at he end of the trip the count was well over 1300. Ridiculous actually. I think the best advice I got from Freebiefan on DIA girls is how to deal with the cousin/friend/whatever that all girls seem to want to bring the first time. At first I was saying no and this was getting me nowhere. But I adopted his strategy and allowed them to bring one. I would then treat them to some cheap lunch or whatever with the condition that I will get alone time afterwards. So after playing niceguy during lunch the chaperon happily leaves and I got what I wanted. With the waitress/mall worker type girls the key was never saying that I was a tourist. This got me nowhere also. I only had success when I lied about having business interests in Manila and thus frequent visits. Also I always pushed for same day after work dates as future dates were iffy. And no i did not have to dress in dress shirts and pants, polo shirts and shorts were just fine for this purpose. In the end I hooked up with 7 plus rejected 2 in about 12 days.
The one pro I had was from Gpoint. Ploughman pointed out things like expensive looking purse and such as bad signs but I went for it anyway sice she had the exact bodytype that I like. She had shown us her passport and had visas from countries like Austraila, Denmark and China. Turned out she had three suckers sending her money but was still turning tricks due to shopping habits. She showed me her two shopping bags which she brought to the bar and she had dropped about 5-6k. It was funny to listen to her phone convo with one of the suckers while in the cab to my hotel. After we were done (and I grossly overpaid at 4500k for about 5 hrs and three pops including swallow and anal attempt) she told me she routinely gets 10k in Makati and once got 20k. I have no idea if that's true but if so some people are nuts.
Some working girls are willing to go great lengths to maintain the image of a 'good girl'. These would never openly admit they are expecting money, no matter how much you pressure. Its possible that the money was presented in a way that offered her no avenue to maintain her 'good girl' image if she accepted.
I know a few seasonal free lancers (with normal day jobs) who would forego good money for this reason. For them, "saving face" is much more important than accepting a direct offer of money. But they would be secretly disappointed.
Its usually a good idea to just step up, slip money into her purse and simply call it 'taxi fare', or 'payment for the baby sitter'.
Gumby.
Good advice! I give then load, taxi and whatever as I tell them that I don't want to put them out. Again pay them to leave! If you are not paying, be careful as they may think that you are their boyfriend and give you all the drama you can handle.
Robb
Cunning Stunt
02-20-10, 13:10
I just had this done in Manila, paid $1200 for all four at a dentist in Makati. I overpaid for sure since he has a fancy website and caters to celebs and foreigners. Don't worry about the recovery if you go to a good dentist. I actually hooked up with a girl the same night as my procedure.
I live in Manila but I’ve learned from bitter experience that the quality of dental care available in The Philippines is patchy at best. Not to say good dentists are not available but they are rare and reflect this in their high charges.
I always wait until I visit Thailand to get my dental repairs done. Quality and standards are much more uniformly high. I’m in Chiang Mai at the moment and have just completed a third lengthy and arduous session in the chair. Two crown replacements (botched Filipino work), 5 new veneers, some root canal work and various other bits and pieces. Total cost – $600.
All performed by a gorgeous doll of a lady dentist and her tasty assistant to take my mind off the discomfort. Was almost like fun – well almost;). Boots sure on the other foot having a young Thai bint putting her tools in my mouth:D.
GoodEnough
02-20-10, 16:43
True enough, but there are notable exceptions. I've got a dentist in Davao who belongs to the American Dental Association, worked for 15 years in Qatar, and is as good as any dentist I've been to in the US or France, and at prices that are maybe a third of what I would pay in those countries. There truly are some excellent dentists here, if you look hard enough.
GE
Just cruised by the Cafe Havana (and Starbucks) at 6:00 on a Friday night. Lots of people buy mainly couples and groups. I didn't see very many unescorted women and none of them flashed the I-want-to-fuck-you smile to me.
Conclusion: Cafe Havana is great but not until 10 or 11.
I've only seen older (26-35 yo's) ladies at Havana who aren't all that, but think they are.
Escort Fan
02-20-10, 22:31
Went to LA Café at 4AM tonight after loosing big at the casino (fucking koreans and their luck when playing poker).
Anyway what a nightmare, so I decided to pick up to end up the night properly.
LA Café is still packed at 4AM, too bad there are only left overs in the place, and trust me there are LOTS of leftovers. Only girls 5 or below!
Horny as I was I decided to call it a (shitty) night and went back to makati to sleep.
Where can one pick up decent gals at late time?
Asian Western
02-21-10, 00:52
For last four years every time I'm in Manila she is my go to girl. Very beautiful bi-sexual 20 yr old soft shy and very accommodating. Others on ISG know her and can vouch for her including Wicked Roger. She has asked me to help her out as things are slow at the massage parlour where she works and she is trying to save for college. A big bonus my last time with her is her young gf lover. Virgin but very sexual. You can watch them together or join in. Lots of very wet pussy from them both. Please ask me for her contact. Reasonable prices. No hassle very lovable girl. She prefers caucasian foreigners visiting Manila.
AW
Key Master
02-21-10, 04:28
I've only seen older (26-35 yo's) ladies at Havana who aren't all that, but think they are.
I'd say that in general is true, but there are good nights there, but it's hard to tell when it's going to happen. You take your chances when you go there, but have seen some really good looking younger women there and some hot mid late 20's women there too.
For last four years every time I'm in Manila she is my go to girl. Very beautiful bi-sexual 20 yr old soft shy and very accommodating. Others on ISG know her and can vouch for her including Wicked Roger. She has asked me to help her out as things are slow at the massage parlour where she works and she is trying to save for college. A big bonus my last time with her is her young gf lover. Virgin but very sexual. You can watch them together or join in. Lots of very wet pussy from them both. Please ask me for her contact. Reasonable prices. No hassle very lovable girl. She prefers caucasian foreigners visiting Manila.
AW
20 years old....four years you have her...she was 16 then....a child.
I know this is the WSG....but that is child abuse in most countries....
Most countries..one would be in prison I would think...what is the age of consent here? And what can the age difference be? Meaning...a 16 year old can legally be fucked by someone over 18?
Wicked Roger
02-21-10, 08:22
For last four years every time I'm in Manila she is my go to girl. Very beautiful bi-sexual 20 yr old soft shy and very accommodating. Others on ISG know her and can vouch for her including Wicked Roger. She has asked me to help her out as things are slow at the massage parlour where she works and she is trying to save for college. A big bonus my last time with her is her young gf lover. Virgin but very sexual. You can watch them together or join in. Lots of very wet pussy from them both. Please ask me for her contact. Reasonable prices. No hassle very lovable girl. She prefers caucasian foreigners visiting Manila.
AW
Hi AW
Long time. Yes she is lovely, and recently she told me she quit the massage place as work so slow and she could better on CL, asked me to help her write the CL listing. Which I will this week unless you have done so already :)
She does prefer 'white' guys only, she has had plenty Korean and Japanese men in the parlour and while quick and easy money (she said they never lasted more than 5 minutes) she prefers respectful older white guys...well respectful but kinky as well (in my case for sure :D).
If you are in Manila soon AW email me. See you soon
Yes, ever since local resident Warbucks stopped posting regularly it's difficult to get accurate information. It seems quite often we are stuck with guys living in Japan, visiting maybe once per year but in spite of that have to post thousands of times with endless obscure questions such as:JS what's good? I am still around just lurking. I will chime in if I see guys like Laylow about to make a huge mistake in life. Or if I see guys like Laylow thinking some of these board members are sheep when they are wolves. After 1000 post you start repeating yourself. How many times have we posted about the dentist, don't trust the locals etc and the present topic brought up by Ben2?
The board is lucky though to have entertaining guys posting about gay security guards, deranged, impoverished nude locals walking the street, rants about black guys dicks, one guy posted about his sandaled feet being mopped by mall janitors and regularly posts about his son's popularity in a third world country as if that is a stunning achievement. "HE IS VIP!"
20 years old....four years you have her...she was 16 then....a child.
I know this is the WSG....but that is child abuse in most countries....
Most countries..one would be in prison I would think...what is the age of consent here? And what can the age difference be? Meaning...a 16 year old can legally be fucked by someone over 18?Hello Ben,
Every so often guys pop on this forum asking questions like what is the age of consent and all this shit. In my opinion these guys are after kids but they don't want to break the law. I am surprised how the board regularly gives these guys a pass and don't chastise them for it. It seems to be condoned. These guys have more important stuff to post like how much Warbucks sucks and snickering about my car breaking down due to audio additions and shoddy work from the locals. Again great group here.
Did a quick search of google and this was all I could come up with.
http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/SexualAbuse/NationalLaws/csaPhilippines.pdf
This information is up to date as of September 2006
I. Ages for legal purposes
Age of simple majority
18 years old
Age of consent for sexual activity
18 years old
Age of consent for marriage
18 years old.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/JE31Df03.html
In the Philippines, the consensual age of 12 applies to males and females alike. But sex with a person under 18 is an offense if, like in Japan, the minor's consent has stemmed from prostitution or coercion. Simply put, the Philippines and Japan fall into a 12 to 18 age bracket for sexual consent, depending on the nature of the sexual relationship.
http://www.chanrobles.com/republicactno8353.htm
http://www.chanrobles.com/republicactno7610.html
Anyone have any more first hand info in this place? It sounded interesting but I could only find one report (which was quite glowing) and no exact location details (it's a long road). Also a bit of a hike.
Soapy Smith
02-21-10, 20:32
True enough, but there are notable exceptions. I've got a dentist in Davao who belongs to the American Dental Association, worked for 15 years in Qatar, and is as good as any dentist I've been to in the US or France, and at prices that are maybe a third of what I would pay in those countries. There truly are some excellent dentists here, if you look hard enough.
GE
My one and only dental experience in the Philippines was excellent. I wrote about it here or perhaps on WSG. About three years ago I had just arrived for my first visit to the Phils. It was to be five months. I'd left the states overdue for cleaning, and one of my dentist's hygienists -- part of a slick operation run a lot like a Goodyear tire shop -- insisted I had a cracked filling that called for a cap, which was going to set me back $600, even with insurance.
Within a few days of settling into an apartment building in Quezon City I noticed signboards for dentists on both the second and third floors. So I checked with the second floor shop: closed. Then I went to the third floor, and that shop was open. They told me I could get in for cleaning and xrays the next morning. I asked how much: 750 pesos for everything, about $15. The female dentist did the work, aided by an employee who handed her tools and also handled the appointment book, money, records, and so on. The dentist had done advanced study in the U.S. and had shared a practice for two years in San Diego with her sister. After reading the xrays she told me a cap was not needed; she could drill out the old filling and refill it.
Two days later I was in the chair again. The dentist gave me a smooth, virtually indistinguishable porcelain filling. Cost? 1600 pesos, $32. A far cry from the $600 cap that my old dentist's office was trying to sell me. And I have decided that "trying to sell me" is the correct metaphor here. Like Goodyear, Firestone and similar shops in the U.S. who always want to sell new radiator hoses to unsuspecting women motorists -- whose hoses they've accidentally on purpose cut with a knife while the car owner is out of sight.
My new dentist back in the states has admired the filling every time I am in for a cleaning and checkup. I only regret not taking my Quezon City dentist up on her offer to bleach my teeth.
I may still have contact information among my papers, assuming she's still in the same location.
Member #3428
02-21-10, 20:43
Within a few days of settling into an apartment building in Quezon City I noticed signboards for dentists on both the second and third floors. So I checked with the second floor shop: closed. Then I went to the third floor, and that shop was open.
That sounds like Garden Heights across from St. Lukes. Many doctors have offices on those floors as side practices. I have a few doc's I visit there and my ex step mom in law is a nurse who lives in the building.
Great place to do your one stop doctor shopping for all sorts of things. My dermatologist and a few others are located there and my last visit cost about 8 USD. However I get my bloodwork done at Makati Medical open 24 hours.
For dentistry I'd still visit BKK I guess but some joints in PI are not far behind. Also helps that I know a lot of girls from QC...
But I'm still looking for a 24 hour bloodwork joint that will email results...
Blackangst
02-21-10, 20:49
20 years old....four years you have her...she was 16 then....a child.
i know this is the wsg....but that is child abuse in most countries....
most countries..one would be in prison i would think...what is the age of consent here? and what can the age difference be? meaning...a 16 year old can legally be fucked by someone over 18?
it may be nitpicking, but the appropriate word to use is ****, not child. a 16 year old is hardly a child. symantecs perhaps, but important nonetheless. we also dont know the relationship either. he may not have been f***ing her at that age.
Member #3428
02-21-10, 20:59
it may be nitpicking, but the appropriate word to use is ****, not child. a 16 year old is hardly a child. symantecs perhaps, but important nonetheless. we also dont know the relationship either. he may not have been f***ing her at that age.
we've been through this many time, and the isg rules are any posts about **** sex is strictly prohibited. the original post leads people to believe, it was worded that people believe the relationship started **** without coming out and saying it. if the relationship started at 20 then fine or whatever. my english sucks as it is not my main language so maybe there are mistakes in the original post.
i know many guys get hooked into a girl who says she is 18 who is not really 18 and it is an honest mistake. however... if a guy knowingly and actively targets relationships or needs to get his jollies off on a child because he can't get off on a lady of age then at least i find that offensive. more importantly it violates the rules of the board.
i would assume that the majority of this board is over 40 years old and if any of us need to target children that age then there are some sick mother fuckers out there. you can't wait till they turn 18 at least? i know many filipina's start fucking at 14 but so what... they are kids / children.
play all the symantic games you want, under 18 is off limits on this board.
Asian Western
02-21-10, 23:21
20 years old....four years you have her...she was 16 then....a child.
I know this is the WSG....but that is child abuse in most countries....
Most countries..one would be in prison I would think...what is the age of consent here? And what can the age difference be? Meaning...a 16 year old can legally be fucked by someone over 18?Yes sounds bad Ben, but in early days she came with an older friend and there was no fucking. / AW
Asian Western
02-22-10, 00:33
Hi AW
Long time. Yes she is lovely, and recently she told me she quit the massage place as work so slow and she could better on CL, asked me to help her write the CL listing. Which I will this week unless you have done so already :)
She does prefer 'white' guys only, she has had plenty Korean and Japanese men in the parlour and while quick and easy money (she said they never lasted more than 5 minutes) she prefers respectful older white guys...well respectful but kinky as well (in my case for sure :D).
If you are in Manila soon AW email me. See you soonThanks for your support Roger go ahead with your help. Will likely be Manila in April. Cheers / AW
I just had this done in Manila, paid $1200 for all four at a dentist in Makati. I overpaid for sure since he has a fancy website and caters to celebs and foreigners. Don't worry about the recovery if you go to a good dentist. I actually hooked up with a girl the same night as my procedure.I have two good dentist in angeles city. I have several girlfriends and I take them for regular check ups and dental work. Also after being in Thailand I have dental work done by the one. She is right next to voodoo on fields avenue, do not remember the name but I am really bad at remembering names. I can go by and get her address and phone number.
She is very pleasant to me even when I bring in, (especially) several girls at a time.
A weakness I have with girls is that if they stay with me for awhile I get them dental and medical check ups. I usually do not tip them. To me this is a better way to give them extra money I make sure it goes to something that will help them more long term.
Soapy Smith
02-22-10, 06:41
That sounds like Garden Heights across from St. Lukes. Many doctors have offices on those floors as side practices. I have a few doc's I visit there and my ex step mom in law is a nurse who lives in the building. Great place to do your one stop doctor shopping for all sorts of things.
My dentist was in a building near Ateneo that is primarily residences with offices on the first three floors. But I have been to the medical office building situated between St. Luke's and Rodriguez Avenue, and my recollection matches this description you give for Garden Heights. I would imagine this is a good place to shop for a competent dentist.
James Oh James
02-22-10, 11:08
Hello, All- First let me say that I've been a LONG time reader of this site, and a subscriber twice now. I find this site to be an amazing source of information for travelers, not just with sexual related stuff but with normal day to day stuff. I used the information gleaned from various posts as a basis for my first trip to the Phils from here in Japan (I'm American) and I had a very good time.
Its now time for my 2nd trip and this time I'm taking my best friend with me, who has to suffer through all my stories over the last year and a half. The first trip, I met a girl from online who met me at the airport (mistake #1) and then stayed with me for the first half of it before I finally had to get rid of her. She was gorgeous and all, but man she was a horrible lay and just not any fun to be with. So I was stuck with her.
That brings me to my question for you great folks. We will be landing in manila to start with, and then spending the next 3 weeks hopping around. Bora, palawan and Bohol probably, all which are places that we'll need to bring our own. And thats my concern. I liked having the girl with me last time, only if she had been more fun. And plus, I'll have my friend with me this time. So, if Id like to bring my own talent to these places, AND I'm looking for a 9 and above, do you all have a recommended method? I think my options are to use the various DIA like sites to score a few that will be in the waiting, and meet each of them over the first few days and pick one. Or to grab a willing BG from AC or the likes. Both situations have their advantages and disadvantages. One is considerably cheaper, but comes with the clinging. Etc.
I'm by no means above taking a BG girl with me if shes #1 HOT, and #2 fun as hell. But I'm not sure what is the best option.
Thanks everyone for taking the time to read my ramblings. I look forward to hearing any opinions!
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Finally got around to seeing Joan. We met at my preferred ST venue, Eurotel, Pedro Gil and she was very prompt, arriving only 5 minutes later than our mutually agreed time, which is always a good sign, particularly as she lives way out in Cavite.
She looks good enough to eat. She is a tiny wisp of a thing, 22 and only 4 foot 10 and 80 pounds soaking wet. She is very brown skinned and Pinay looking with a little button nose and an astonishingly dirty laugh. Great, tight little body with a cracking butt and the usual tiny little Jolibee tummy. No kids. She has one piercing – her tongue, which she was later to use to remarkably good effect. Her English is excellent – she said she had lost her cherry 2 years before to an English boyfriend …hmmm. An altogether lovely, little spinner.
No wonder she gets absolute rave reviews. As a nympho, this girl leaves even Ana standing at the gate. I pride myself on being able to outstay most Pinay fillies but this girl had me seriously flagging. Good job that she brought a selection of toys with her, including a vibrator and a fucking great black strap-on dildo which looked like it would split her in two. So, whilst I recovered in between shags, we pleasured her with toys. She is genuinely multi-orgasmic and appeared to be getting as much fun as I was.
She will do anything for pleasure except SM (although she loves being doggy spanked, really hard!!). Anal is permitted if your tool is small/medium sized, which negated my chances;). DT is excellent and she really does swallow if you insist, which I, being a gentleman, did not. For such a tiny girl, she loves being given it hard and deep and no whining about it being ‘too beeg’, just a lot of squeaks and genuine moaning.
She is bisexual and has a stable of 4 friends (two 19, one 20 and one 21 year old) who can join her. One is lactating, if that is your thing. If you are really perverted, she also has a LB friend:eek:.
She actually instructs you to bring a camera and take as many shots/videos as possible!
If you like a real raunchy PSE with a girl who also does a good GFE as well, Joan is the real deal. But get there pretty quickly as she says that she is going to hang up her dildos in a few weeks, when she hopes to open a legitimate business.
Posted a few photos in the appropriate place(http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=983202&postcount=2445).I envy you, and you are right. I am going to Manila in May and just got an email saying that she will no longer do escorts. What a shame, because I was really looking forward to doing her.
Key Master
02-23-10, 12:28
That brings me to my question for you great folks. We will be landing in manila to start with, and then spending the next 3 weeks hopping around. Bora, palawan and Bohol probably, all which are places that we'll need to bring our own. And thats my concern. I liked having the girl with me last time, only if she had been more fun. And plus, I'll have my friend with me this time. So, if Id like to bring my own talent to these places, AND I'm looking for a 9 and above, do you all have a recommended method? I think my options are to use the various DIA like sites to score a few that will be in the waiting, and meet each of them over the first few days and pick one. Or to grab a willing BG from AC or the likes. Both situations have their advantages and disadvantages. One is considerably cheaper, but comes with the clinging. Etc.
I'm by no means above taking a BG girl with me if shes #1 HOT, and #2 fun as hell. But I'm not sure what is the best option.
Thanks everyone for taking the time to read my ramblings. I look forward to hearing any opinions!
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Those are some big trips. It may seem simple to just find a girl and take her, but to me it's not that easy. It's easy to be with someone for short periods of time like at night and all. But when it's 24 hours for days on, it could be problematic if you choose wrong. May not be helping, just suggesting you choose really wisely. It may be easier if you had some past girls who were reliable and worthy to be able to make such trips. It may also be hard to take a girl out of her work for so long unless maybe she is a bar girl. I had one girl I'd taken many times before change so much as I took her away, it became awful. Maybe just bad luck or decision making on my part.
Reggae Man
02-23-10, 12:55
Those are some big trips. It may seem simple to just find a girl and take her, but to me it's not that easy. It's easy to be with someone for short periods of time like at night and all. But when it's 24 hours for days on, it could be problematic if you choose wrong. May not be helping, just suggesting you choose really wisely. It may be easier if you had some past girls who were reliable and worthy to be able to make such trips. It may also be hard to take a girl out of her work for so long unless maybe she is a bar girl. I had one girl I'd taken many times before change so much as I took her away, it became awful. Maybe just bad luck or decision making on my part.I'm sorry guys, but the girls you're getting are somewhat the (d class). I could recommend you some if you want. I'm a Filipino so I really know where to find girls with quality unlike the one you're posting here.
Those are some big trips. It may seem simple to just find a girl and take her, but to me it's not that easy. It's easy to be with someone for short periods of time like at night and all. But when it's 24 hours for days on, it could be problematic if you choose wrong. May not be helping, just suggesting you choose really wisely. It may be easier if you had some past girls who were reliable and worthy to be able to make such trips. It may also be hard to take a girl out of her work for so long unless maybe she is a bar girl. I had one girl I'd taken many times before change so much as I took her away, it became awful. Maybe just bad luck or decision making on my part.
When I tried to take a DIA girl on my trip it wasn't just the missing work but also having to explain to her family. I think this takes some advance planning.
Hello, All- First let me say that I've been a LONG time reader of this site, and a subscriber twice now. I find this site to be an amazing source of information for travelers, not just with sexual related stuff but with normal day to day stuff. I used the information gleaned from various posts as a basis for my first trip to the Phils from here in Japan (I'm American) and I had a very good time.
Its now time for my 2nd trip and this time I'm taking my best friend with me, who has to suffer through all my stories over the last year and a half. The first trip, I met a girl from online who met me at the airport (mistake #1) and then stayed with me for the first half of it before I finally had to get rid of her. She was gorgeous and all, but man she was a horrible lay and just not any fun to be with. So I was stuck with her.
That brings me to my question for you great folks. We will be landing in manila to start with, and then spending the next 3 weeks hopping around. Bora, palawan and Bohol probably, all which are places that we'll need to bring our own. And thats my concern. I liked having the girl with me last time, only if she had been more fun. And plus, I'll have my friend with me this time. So, if Id like to bring my own talent to these places, AND I'm looking for a 9 and above, do you all have a recommended method? I think my options are to use the various DIA like sites to score a few that will be in the waiting, and meet each of them over the first few days and pick one. Or to grab a willing BG from AC or the likes. Both situations have their advantages and disadvantages. One is considerably cheaper, but comes with the clinging. Etc.
I'm by no means above taking a BG girl with me if shes #1 HOT, and #2 fun as hell. But I'm not sure what is the best option.
Thanks everyone for taking the time to read my ramblings. I look forward to hearing any opinions!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Best option for you will be a test run in Manila to see if you get the right girl. Georgeous does not mean good lay and good company. For a eye candy , yes. As a tourist you need not worry about a eye candy.
For a long trip like this your best option is a bargirl who knows what she has to do. With DIA girls there are problems about taking off from their jobs, explaining to the people she lives with, if unlimited sex is not her thing etc. A bargirl knows she has to give sex on demand.
Most of the girls are not going to be like a GF and not used to the high lifestyle. May not be interested in scuba, snorkeling, pool, beach etc that you planned to do. Also remember these girls complain about being cold all the time. Even they do not like air-con let alone the beach stroll in the evening. They are quite happy staying in bed and watching TV and letting you do your thing. I had a young GF from Leyte I took on trips although she was very good in sex and good company , did not like any of beach activities including open air restaurents.
That brings me to my question for you great folks. We will be landing in manila to start with, and then spending the next 3 weeks hopping around. Bora, palawan and Bohol probably, all which are places that we'll need to bring our own.James,
I think you are on the right track so far. I think you have a lot of work to do before hand trying to find the right girl on the internet. I would line up 3-5 for meetings once you arrive in manila. Also i would be out in the bars at night, like LA Cafe, Havana Cafe, EDSA and Burgos looking for the right one.
Also, the places you are travelling to are pretty easy to get to and any girl would give her left arm to go to any of them. So maybe you take your number one choice and if you get sick of her, send her home and call in another!
Blackangst
02-23-10, 17:44
[quote=tansak ktv]we've been through this many time, and the isg rules are any posts about **** sex is strictly prohibited. the original post leads people to believe, it was worded that people believe the relationship started **** without coming out and saying it. if the relationship started at 20 then fine or whatever. my english sucks as it is not my main language so maybe there are mistakes in the original post.
i know many guys get hooked into a girl who says she is 18 who is not really 18 and it is an honest mistake. however... if a guy knowingly and actively targets relationships or needs to get his jollies off on a child because he can't get off on a lady of age then at least i find that offensive. more importantly it violates the rules of the board.
i would assume that the majority of this board is over 40 years old and if any of us need to target children that age then there are some sick mother fuckers out there. you can't wait till they turn 18 at least
]
fair enough.i think youre confusing two very different and seperate issues, but whatever. i also dont think anyone, much less the op, is advocating **** sex. so chill the fuck out man. we all know the rules here.
considering the legal age of consent in the philippines is around 12, and in many u.s. states at 16 and as low as 14, be clear when you say "****".
are you talking 11 and below, or 16? or anything below 18, of which is not really "under".
Chapter 1
Well, my first time in Manila and I just had to check out the LA Cafe. Hooked up with 3 young spinner roommates and took 2 of them back to the hotel. The dark one had more experience and helped the shy, light one along.
We 3 showered together and soon we were off to the races with double BJs, double doggys and double pops. Actually, became a one woman pop for the second round, see Chapter 2. I'm exhausted but going back for more.
Cost: 3000p for ST
Enjoy the pics.
Chapter 2
There was actually a "connection" with the shy lighter one and I had to see her again. We saw each other a few more times and it became a total GFE, with daily min. Of two pops plus more.
I'll probably see her again but we both are keeping things in perspective.
considering the legal age of consent in the philippines is around 12, and in many u.s. states at 16 and as low as 14, be clear when you say "****".
are you talking 11 and below, or 16? or anything below 18, of which is not really "under".
incorrect. age of consent in the phils is 15. if prostitution is involved, **** is under 18. this law is the source of **** scams where a girl and her **** sister will team up with cops to tag an unwitting monger for the big payoff.
almost all us states will prosecute for under 18 now if the man is a lot older. it's called statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). look it up.
**** per isg rules is under 18.
Blackangst
02-25-10, 18:11
considering the legal age of consent in the philippines is around 12, and in many u.s. states at 16 and as low as 14, be clear when you say "****".
are you talking 11 and below, or 16? or anything below 18, of which is not really "under".
given the ages of most mongers on this board, the effective aoc in the states is 18. not as you stated. you need to read the fine print ;) as far as the philippines aoc...im not going to comment.
Given the ages of most mongers on this board, the effective AOC in the states is 18. Not as you stated. You need to read the fine print ;) As far as the Philippines AOC...Im not going to comment.That is odd, considering States where the legal age of consent is 16, it says nothing about that the age is higher based upon the advanced age of the male.
Blackangst
02-28-10, 00:35
That is odd, considering States where the legal age of consent is 16, it says nothing about that the age is higher based upon the advanced age of the male.
Youre right...my bad. I hadnt looked at AOC laws in awhile. Looks like about half the states with AOC of 16 have age requirements. Also, looks like AOC for travelling Americans is either local AOC or 16, whichever is higher.
Rick Hunter
03-02-10, 15:22
I find myself coming to Makati for the umpteenth time in a couple days time for half a week and want to do something different. Other than the business district and Greenbelt I'm very familiar with P Burgos and have been to Edsa Entertainment Complex a few time. LA Cafe is the same type of pick up joint everywhere in Asia.
I am tired of the same old scene. Can someone recommend something different for action in Manila. Are any of the places in Malate any good or different? What about places in Ermita? Is the system and pricing the same as either Burgos (high) or Edsa (cheap). Also how safe are these places for westerners.
Looking at http://www.burgos-street.com/ermita.php does not really give me a feel if the places are much different than Burgos or Edsa?
Or are there any places that are any different than the standard gogo or massage joint. Like places to have a big orgy or something.
I find myself coming to Makati and want to do something different.
Or are there any places that are any different than the standard gogo or massage joint. Like places to have a big orgy or something.I noticed on this map you attached, there is a lot of clubs in Quezon City. I have tried for years to get someone to give field reports on these.
Why don't you check them out and give us some info?
Also, looks like AOC for travelling Americans is either local AOC or 16, whichever is higher.
I believe if you are an american then you have to keep it above 18 not matter where you are in the world.
I find myself coming to Makati for the umpteenth time in a couple days time for half a week and want to do something different. Other than the business district and Greenbelt I'm very familiar with P Burgos and have been to Edsa Entertainment Complex a few time. LA Cafe is the same type of pick up joint everywhere in Asia.
I am tired of the same old scene. Can someone recommend something different for action in Manila. Are any of the places in Malate any good or different? What about places in Ermita? Is the system and pricing the same as either Burgos (high) or Edsa (cheap). Also how safe are these places for westerners.
Looking at http://www.burgos-street.com/ermita.php does not really give me a feel if the places are much different than Burgos or Edsa?
Or are there any places that are any different than the standard gogo or massage joint. Like places to have a big orgy or something.
RH you have to create your own entertainment with the girls. I have an upcoming report (I'm way behind on my reports from notes stored in my blackberry) about getting tired of the same old thing and convincing a girl who had never eaten pussy to barhop with me and select a girl for us to take home. From moving from bar to bar, watching the prospective girls face as we told them what we wanted, and actually doing the deed and watching the two girls together. Mega fun bro! So go create your own orgy my friend! Don't wait for an established business to do it for you. The sky is the limit. Happy hunting!
YM
Escort Fan
03-06-10, 03:58
On a slow night I was heading back to Makati, and the cabby some old dude who was friendly told me he knew a « boarding house » where I could get « clean pussy ».
Normally I always pass on those offers, but this time I accepted he headed to some street not too far from Makati, called bauptista or something like that.
In some shit place, I entered, and I must say it was a pleasant surprise. There was a line up of maybe 50 girls which were good looking. Many girls were 7 and very few were below 6.
I picked up a girl for 3, 000 pesos. Back to the hotel then she wanted to do everything covered, even BJ! WTF a covered BJ in the Phils! She said it was strict instructions from mamas an
So we had a quick and shitty round, then I let her go.
Do you guys have experience with such places? How to negotiate service? (as you can't speak to the girls, you only speak to the "handler").
Is it possible to have good experience at such places?
How to find it back? I mean those idiots don't even give you a phone # or a business card!
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Key Master
03-06-10, 05:45
On a slow night I was heading back to Makati, and the cabby some old dude who was friendly told me he knew a « boarding house » where I could get « clean pussy ».
Normally I always pass on those offers, but this time I accepted he headed to some street not too far from Makati, called bauptista or something like that.
In some shit place, I entered, and I must say it was a pleasant surprise. There was a line up of maybe 50 girls which were good looking. Many girls were 7 and very few were below 6.
I picked up a girl for 3, 000 pesos. Back to the hotel then she wanted to do everything covered, even BJ! WTF a covered BJ in the Phils! She said it was strict instructions from mamas an
So we had a quick and shitty round, then I let her go.
Do you guys have experience with such places? How to negotiate service? (as you can't speak to the girls, you only speak to the "handler").
Is it possible to have good experience at such places?
How to find it back? I mean those idiots don't even give you a phone # or a business card!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
I've been to a similar place twice for the same price of 3k. I don't know the address. It may be the same place. I've been lucky with the women there as both provided very good service and were very into it. The papasan at these places will tell you a lot of times the women will stay like until 12 pm the next day or something like that for that price. The women I think will get about 1000 pesos out of that. All the BJ's were uncovered. One woman left earlier than I planned but she in return got me going surprisingly when I didn't think I could so I let her go. She didn't live at the place like the other one did.
Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. My first of 3 days there I got picked up by a little cutie that turned out to be a bossy little biatch whom I booted out of my room after payment. After that I went to 5 different massage places and all were the same - no extras, no way. I had no idea that they are all legit, thinking they were more of the Thai model where in 60% of them anything goes.
However not to be all negative I did get a good impression of the Phillipino people that I have had conversation with. Most have so little yet they are some of the happiest folks I have come across. Perhaps I just did not have the correct expectations of how to get laid. Anyhow I left and am now in Cebu and it is the same way. The amps are legit and the weather is humid to the point of ridiculous.
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!!
Escort Fan
03-06-10, 10:52
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!!There are no parts of the Philippines which are south of the equator.
Check a map mate, even davao is in the nothern hemisphere!
Massage parlors, I don't even know where you found some:) this is not Thailand, here you pick up in bars, in mall (for freelancers), on the net for escorts and where ever taxis bring you to:)
Member #3428
03-06-10, 11:01
Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. My first of 3 days there I got picked up by a little cutie that turned out to be a bossy little biatch whom I booted out of my room after payment. After that I went to 5 different massage places and all were the same - no extras, no way. I had no idea that they are all legit, thinking they were more of the Thai model where in 60% of them anything goes.
Did you read anything here before you left???? Greenbelt, Robinson, Burgos, LA Cafe, EDSA.... OMG mate... RTFF before you go...
And for a bossy little biatch why you let her stay 3 days??????? I surely hope you mean that during the first three days you only found ONE girl and she turned out to be a bossy little biatch that you booted....
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!!
South of the Equator?????? Are you sure you are in Philippines? Better stick your head in for a closer look as last time I heard PI was NORTH of the equator. :D
GoodEnough
03-06-10, 11:43
KM's post is a first for me. I've never before heard of a guy coming to the PI who could not get laid!
In Philippines, it's best to skip the massage places. Go to the bars that have been recommended at ISG.
Two points of confusion for me.
1) GE was referring to this post below?
2) Mr. LDP, you do realize that the Philippines is NOT south of the equater, and therefore your water should be draining clockwise? Of course the oceans behave in a similar way. I've been swimming in Miami on Christmas Day, yet the southern Californian waters can be very chilly even in the summer time.
X
*duh...after posting this, I can see Tansak has covered the same territory.
Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. My first of 3 days there I got picked up by a little cutie that turned out to be a bossy little biatch whom I booted out of my room after payment. After that I went to 5 different massage places and all were the same - no extras, no way. I had no idea that they are all legit, thinking they were more of the Thai model where in 60% of them anything goes.
However not to be all negative I did get a good impression of the Phillipino people that I have had conversation with. Most have so little yet they are some of the happiest folks I have come across. Perhaps I just did not have the correct expectations of how to get laid. Anyhow I left and am now in Cebu and it is the same way. The amps are legit and the weather is humid to the point of ridiculous.
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!!
Fast Eddie 48
03-06-10, 14:59
Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. My first of 3 days there I got picked up by a little cutie that turned out to be a bossy little biatch whom I booted out of my room after payment. After that I went to 5 different massage places and all were the same. No extras, no way. I had no idea that they are all legit, thinking they were more of the Thai model where in 60% of them anything goes.
However not to be all negative I did get a good impression of the Phillipino people that I have had conversation with. Most have so little yet they are some of the happiest folks I have come across. Perhaps I just did not have the correct expectations of how to get laid. Anyhow I left and am now in Cebu and it is the same way. The AMPs are legit and the weather is humid to the point of ridiculous.
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm. South of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!To luvdapuss
I was at Don Pedro Sauna last week got a cute nice girl jonie, she is very nice university girl 20 yr old a GFE cost is 1200 peso to the house and 1500 peso to the girl for 90 min included a very nice massage with 2 pop, I normally don't go to sauna or bar at burgoes because they are mostly rip off and manila is getting so expensive for everything that Bangkok is not that much more.
Fast Eddie 48
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!!
Only for mongers. For everyone else it just goes straight down only - when you tip the pan of water in afterwards. ;) ;) ;)
Willie Wonker
03-06-10, 15:35
Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. . .
I am in Manila now, and I have to say that I would be disappointed if I had to walk more than 3 blocks without being propositioned at least once. I'm an older, average-looking, somewhat overweight man and all I have to do is walk outside the hotel and hang around for 10 minutes at dusk and the girl finds me. I suspect this is the same for most as I don't have any special charm or magic. How can you stay in Manila and NOT get laid?
Anyone know of a gym in the Makati area that you can use on a day pass? Any hotels got any fitness centers in them?
Member #3428
03-06-10, 21:37
Anyone know of a gym in the Makati area that you can use on a day pass? Any hotels got any fitness centers in them?
Dusit is Decent... How "real" of a fitness are you looking for? I are you looking free weights, spinner bikes, boxing, yoga, etc...
Just left Manila and would have to say I am disappointed. My first of 3 days there I got picked up by a little cutie that turned out to be a bossy little biatch whom I booted out of my room after payment. After that I went to 5 different massage places and all were the same - no extras, no way. I had no idea that they are all legit, thinking they were more of the Thai model where in 60% of them anything goes.
However not to be all negative I did get a good impression of the Phillipino people that I have had conversation with. Most have so little yet they are some of the happiest folks I have come across. Perhaps I just did not have the correct expectations of how to get laid. Anyhow I left and am now in Cebu and it is the same way. The amps are legit and the weather is humid to the point of ridiculous.
One thing I have to say that all my life I have heard and now I can confirm - south of the equator the toilet waterdoes flush counterclockwise!!
I am in Cebu also. If you can't find a girl, please feel free to PM me and I will take you and show you how to find a 1000 girls...unless you are just a troll and want to start some BS here?
Up To You:D
Robb
Dusit is Decent... How "real" of a fitness are you looking for? I are you looking free weights, spinner bikes, boxing, yoga, etc...Anyone try the massage services at Dusit?
Hairy Wonder
03-07-10, 08:13
I am in Manila now, and I have to say that I would be disappointed if I had to walk more than 3 blocks without being propositioned at least once. I'm an older, average-looking, somewhat overweight man and all I have to do is walk outside the hotel and hang around for 10 minutes at dusk and the girl finds me. I suspect this is the same for most as I don't have any special charm or magic. How can you stay in Manila and NOT get laid?
I guess part of that depends on what hotel you stay at. The place I stayed at before did not have many girls walking around it. But then I had one hanging on my arm, and keeping my attention also. So I may have missed some things! :D
Dusit is Decent... How "real" of a fitness are you looking for? I are you looking free weights, spinner bikes, boxing, yoga, etc...
free weights are ideal, but anything have way decent is ok. just something for a few days to get a decent all around workout. 300-500 pesos/day is ok. thanks
Member #3428
03-07-10, 09:57
free weights are ideal, but anything have way decent is ok. just something for a few days to get a decent all around workout. 300-500 pesos/day is ok. thanks
http://www.gymvisit.com/findagym.htm?loc=fareast/Philippines/Makati
When I"m not using Dusit's on transit personally I liked Technofit they have dumbells (besides myself) but they have Cybex and Hammer Strenght. Haven't been there in a while however.
Most folks I know in the area just run to Golds.
Been living in Bohol & Cebu for 3 years and have to make my way up north for meetings. I am sure lots have changed in the 4 years since I was there last. Back then there were some good deals on condotels. Seeing that I hate paying for lodging and that I am in Province mode when it comes to spending money, what are the top budget locations in your opinions?
-Ender
FreebieFan
03-08-10, 04:14
Anyone try the massage services at Dusit?I used to use it regularly when I lived there. Always had same girl in one of their " private rooms" and always got hot and steamy. Then one day got extra hot and after our "session " the girl started crying. I asked her why. She told me " you like to have fun with me here, but you won't take me out on a date ". Yes she was right!
A cabby is the last person to take pussy advice from.
After years in Mania I always gravitate back to the LA Cafe. Its hit or miss, but its the most fun. Talk to some of the girls in there about their experiences with "clients." Thats almost worth the trip.
On a slow night I was heading back to Makati, and the cabby some old dude who was friendly told me he knew a « boarding house » where I could get « clean pussy ».
Normally I always pass on those offers, but this time I accepted he headed to some street not too far from Makati, called bauptista or something like that.
In some shit place, I entered, and I must say it was a pleasant surprise. There was a line up of maybe 50 girls which were good looking. Many girls were 7 and very few were below 6.
I picked up a girl for 3, 000 pesos. Back to the hotel then she wanted to do everything covered, even BJ! WTF a covered BJ in the Phils! She said it was strict instructions from mamas an
So we had a quick and shitty round, then I let her go.
Do you guys have experience with such places? How to negotiate service? (as you can't speak to the girls, you only speak to the "handler").
Is it possible to have good experience at such places?
How to find it back? I mean those idiots don't even give you a phone # or a business card!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Cunning Stunt
03-12-10, 02:53
After years in Mania I always gravitate back to the LA Cafe. Its hit or miss, but its the most fun. Talk to some of the girls in there about their experiences with "clients." Thats almost worth the trip.
... leaving the L out of Manila. Very appropriate;). LA Cafe may be the pits but its the best place for a casual visitor to meet a genuine amateur, shopgirl or student out to make a bit of extra cash. Don't believe what some will try and tell you - they do go there. You will also meet some of the most grizzled old pro's to be found in Manila. They flock there in droves also.
Just remember to take your respirator (if you are a non-smoker).
Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.
Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?
Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.
Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.
SuperSteve
03-16-10, 05:51
Just for the record, I am a fat, old (62), gray haired, fart...........
I just made my first trip to PI. The first six days in AC, the last night in Manila. We went to the LA Cafe for the evening. For those of you who have been to Costa Rica, think of the Hotel Del Rey/Blue Marlin.
Arrived at about 7 PM and there were plenty of ladies there, I would say about a 3-1 female to male ratio. All types were available, but highest I would call an 8+. We ate in the pool room area, with passable food.
The first lady to hit on me immediately was a party girl. I went to the CR, and she was already sitting beside someone else when I returned, which I approved of. She came back over and I told her no way. My friends and I had a few drinks, and the crowd of ladies grew.
I noticed a lady that was sitting by herself, with no friends. She was classy dressed in a low cut dress, nice naturals, pretty (almost Japanese looking), sort of out of place. I had the waitress order her a drink, and she was surprised, but made no move towards me. A lady beside me asked what I was doing, I told her I had just bought her a drink, and she ordered a non-alcoholic drink. She told the lady to move over to the chair beside me. She was very shy, and did so reluctantly. When I asked her why she had not come over, her response was "You did not ask me to".
Come to find out she is a part-timer who had not been in the Cafe for over two months, and her last session didn't go well for her. I asked her how much for the night, and her comment was "I do not want to talk about business with you, give me what you think". When it was time to leave, with still no agreement, I told her to either tell me how much, or I was leaving alone. She looked at the ground and whispered 2,000 for all night. When it came time to pay, in the morning, she would not look at me, and I had to physically put the money in her hand.
This lady was total GFE in the room. She had said she was very horny from months of no good sex, and it was true. DFK, BBBJCIM, and waking me up for a morning session before I had to leave at 6 AM. She was the most passionate GFE that I have experienced in hundreds of mongering sessions in many countries. Another first for me, she asked if she could take my picture with her.
While I am sure that there are better venues in Manila than the LA Cafe, as I do in other countries, I look for the quiet lady that looks out of place. For me, it pays dividends.
In one sense, unfortunately, I will not be going back to PI in the near future. For me, I prefer MDE, but will try Pattaya next year.
Health and happiness to all..............
Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.
Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?
Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.
Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.
Seems like you haven't read ANY posts here.
Five minutes reading would answer all your questions.
Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.
Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?
Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.
Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.
Usaman, I'll be in Cebu during the last week of July thru first week of August. I'm retired military so we may have a bit in common. I'd be glad to show you around if your there around the same dates. Hit me with a PM.
YM
While I am sure that there are better venues in Manila than the LA Cafe, as I do in other countries, I look for the quiet lady that looks out of place. For me, it pays dividends.
In one sense, unfortunately, I will not be going back to PI in the near future. For me, I prefer MDE, but will try Pattaya next year.
Health and happiness to all..............[/QUOTE]
Steve,
I, like yourself have found many a gem by taking the road less traveled. Of course on occasion there is a reason they are sat out all by themselves!
I also share your affections for MDE, but in reverse. I have had some extraordinary times in MDE, but cannot get there often since I live on this side of the date line now. Give my regards to to those awesome piasas, y que tenga un buen viaje! We will try to keep things going here until your next visit! :-)
Cebu has plenty of action, but the main reason it is better is that it isn't Manila.
As for 48, you might consider some Cialis or Viagra...at 48 your brain's sex drive is the same as 18, but naughtier, but the other parts don't always keep up.
X
Looking to find some great woman, been deployed and need some fun.
Any ex-military want show a new guy the ropes? Is cebu better for action?
Being 48, is age any factor there? June July time period but flexible.
Coming from Sac. Cali area, maybe find a drinking buddy wingman to go there with.
I asked her how much for the night, and her comment was "I do not want to talk about business with you, give me what you think". When it was time to leave, with still no agreement, I told her to either tell me how much, or I was leaving alone. She looked at the ground and whispered 2, 000 for all night. When it came time to pay, in the morning, she would not look at me, and I had to physically put the money in her hand.
This lady was total GFE in the room.Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.
The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.
Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.
With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.
If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.
Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "
Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall." True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.
Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.
The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.
Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.
With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.
If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.
Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "
Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall. " True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.I like this report.
I am a little cheaper as I live in angeles and usually pay 1000 pesos for short time? It does vary. For sure I do not pay for sex. I either pay for the girls time? Pay for her taxi and food and also contribute to her rent. Or pay so she will go away? Hahaha. If you know what I mean.
I have had bar fines and the girl does not want sex. I just accept it as she is human being and I want it to be consensual. Of course I will never see her again but for '1500 pesos why worry.
As I said I do not pay for sex but yes I love sex and want a willing girl.
Now as mentioned in the post for sure the girls need money. Its a different reality then USA or a western country where a girl can be free and even contribute to the meals and trip costs.
Many girls are hangiing out and willing to be companions because they need milk and food for their baby or their family and they need to pay the rent.
You are lucky if you meet a real nice girl that does not ask for anything and is like a real girlfriend. To not give them money shows either totally selfishness or a misunderstanding of what they need and the reality of their situation.
I have been in Angeles City for two years.
Most girls I meet would prefer to settle down with one guy and have a family or normal life/ But there are many circumstances and llittle opportunity as to why they are willing to sell their bodies.
I usually have two to six girls living with me in between boyfriends or other jobs.
Not like in the USA where they buy drugs or lavish spending.
Thanks for a well written report and to stick up for the girls. God bless them for giving me love and companionship.
Yes some are greedy and if you meet one that is golden be good to her. Or send her to me and I will take care of her. I will even give her money for her family up to a point.
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Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.
The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.
Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.
With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.
If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.
Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "
Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall." True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.
Spot on post...
Something about this post set off a light in my head. It seems we spend a lot of time on this forum talking about prices, locations, techniques for bedding women. Etc. But we should take note of something very awkward for these women.
The discussion of prices and the exchange of money.
Someone wrote in this forum several weeks ago that these women loose face when we openly hand money to them. I guess it is because they don't want to be confronted with the truth that they are prostitutes. It is obviously over my head and beyond my understanding as a white guy what causes them to lose face. But having done it hundreds of times I can tell you it is definitely true.
With that in mind here is my take on "peso etiquette. " When it is time to pay the girl, slip the money in her pocket or her purse. Do this when she is around and aware that you are doing it. This will tell her you have made good on your promise to pay and alleviate her of having to ask for it. Don't mention the amount, or the fact that you are doing it, just do it casually so as not to make her feel uncomfortable. If she was particularly good it would be nice to mention to her that you have given her extra or that you have included extra for her taxi.
If money was not mentioned before hand, but you both know it is P4P, just do the above and tell her this is taxi money when you give it to her.
Now the hard part, discussing price before hand. Like the lady mentioned above, we all want to bed the woman that is too kind and sweet to mention money, but we are nervous that she wants too much money. I am certainly not an expert at this situation, but my advice would be to whisper to her when you are ready to leave that you would like her to come with you but you want to make sure that she will be happy with what you would like to pay. 99% of the time the women will say, you can pay whatever you would like. So you must start the conversation by saying "I will pay 1500 pesos for 3 hours "
Not trying to preach to anyone but I think this is good advice to be followed. I have seen several newbies go to the PI and meet a really quality GFE type and stay with her for several days and at the end send her off with nothing. When I question them about it they say "well she did it because she loves me, not for the money. I took her to all of the restaurants and to the mall." True, but you knew she was a working girl when you met her at LA Café/Havana Café/EDSA and she fulfilled her part of the bargain by delivering the GFE, now you need to fulfill your part by paying her! Just because she doesn't ask for money doesn't mean she isn't expecting it.
Yes, that's a nice post. Personally I like to mention money upfront of at all possible, just in case she was expecting more and is disappointed. I try to just say a number, as an offside as we are leaving, as if it is a minor detail - eg, "Oh - 1500, ok . . ." and get her to nod.
When I pay her, I usually spread the notes so she can see how much is there without counting, even if it is folded. I slip it under her purse or something of hers sitting on the table, casually but in full view. I am trying to be discreet but also avoid any 'misunderstanding.'
The only time I have had any come-back on this was when a girl asked me to bring smaller notes next time - "A girl like me doesn't usually have notes that big to go into a shop with."
SuperSteve
03-17-10, 09:19
Excellent points Devils 1. I will use some of what you have written.
For me, I choose to make sure that there is no doubt about the money, or the exchange. I don't want to have problems of any sort in a foreign country, especially dealing with money, and a Pro.
Without going into a long story, in this case, it was because of a "connection" (her words) that she had made with me, and IMJ being a pro working only part-time. Spending a couple of hours talking to her, about her, was very different for her (again her words). She knew that what she was doing was prostituting, and even used the word, not only to me, but to our group. Due to the connection she felt, it was her desire that this seem more real than business. I could have possibly done better at the exchange to let her more enjoy the moment.
Again, thanks for the input. I will look for ways to make a smoother exchange, while still out in the open so there can be no doubt.
Health & happiness to all................
Barfollowmule
03-20-10, 18:51
I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated!
I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated!You said 4 hours until noon so I am assuming you be there from 8:00 AM until 12:00 PM. The bars will not be open. You might try some of the in-call massage parlors. My favorite is Palacio Don Pedro. See if this link works.
http://donpedro.ktvphil.com/outlet/donpedro/main.asp
I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated!Yes other than Don Pedro, the only morning place I can think of is Air Force one. And I am not even sure they are open that early. Also they are in Paranaque, which could be an hour ride each way.
I am sure you could google air force one and get their hours.
You said 4 hours until noon so I am assuming you be there from 8:00 AM until 12:00 PM. The bars will not be open. You might try some of the in-call massage parlors. My favorite is Palacio Don Pedro. See if this link works.
http://donpedro.ktvphil.com/outlet/donpedro/main.asp
BFM
I'm staying in Manila for 2 days and was wondering if you can give a little more details, like pricing, and are extras included the initial pricing.
Thanks
I am going to be in Makati next week from just about four hours until noon. Any mongering suggestions that would fit within that time frame would be most appreciated!
You head over to one of the many malls...the coffee shops, etc..and you'll be approached! It's a given! Almost any hotel will have p4p gals hanging around.
But with just 4 hours to kill....I'd line up someone before....many sites available with p4p filippinas!
All excellent reports about not having to pay for sexual services.
One provider thanked me for "her allowance". I like that term and will use it from now on. Some don't care what you call it, but for the ones, who are uncomfortable with receiving money, giving them "an allowance" is a nice way to put it in my opinion.
Jager
Excellent points Devils 1. I will use some of what you have written.
For me, I choose to make sure that there is no doubt about the money, or the exchange. I don't want to have problems of any sort in a foreign country, especially dealing with money, and a Pro.
Without going into a long story, in this case, it was because of a "connection" (her words) that she had made with me, and IMJ being a pro working only part-time. Spending a couple of hours talking to her, about her, was very different for her (again her words). She knew that what she was doing was prostituting, and even used the word, not only to me, but to our group. Due to the connection she felt, it was her desire that this seem more real than business. I could have possibly done better at the exchange to let her more enjoy the moment.
Again, thanks for the input. I will look for ways to make a smoother exchange, while still out in the open so there can be no doubt.
Health & happiness to all................
Yes other than Don Pedro, the only morning place I can think of is Air Force one. And I am not even sure they are open that early. Also they are in Paranaque, which could be an hour ride each way.
I am sure you could google air force one and get their hours.
AF1 opens at 12. I would head to LA Cafe.
Robb
Itsoweezee
03-24-10, 01:47
ok. first trip report for me, so here goes.
found myself with some unexpected free time, and having been a frequent lurker on the board for some time now, i had always wanted to try bangkok, china, or the phillippines. bangkok was my #1 choice, but in looking at my travel options, manila was the only place i could get a direct flight that wouldn't take 30+ hours (searching online travel sites). based on the travel time required, manila seemed like the best choice for me as i could maximize my time there. i also liked the fact that english is spoken by almost everyone there. i figured it'd make everything a little easier as i know zero tagalog, and wanted to chat up the girls a bit. anyways, this entire decision making process happened on saturday morning the 20th. after reading through the board a bit more, i decided to go for it. as my finger hovered over clicking the button to finalize the ticket purchase, i admit i did have second thoughts as i normally like to prepare much more in advance for first time trips. but after looking through some of the photos posted, the little head made his voice heard and click it i did. flight to manila for sunday night and reservations at the g-hotel.
holy shit. i have only a day to prepare for this!
there wasn't near as much to do as i thought thankfully. after printing out my flight and hotel itinerary, grabbed my passport, packed a few changes of clothes and some toiletries, then headed over to costco for a box of condoms and having read on the board that chocolate was very much appreciated by the girls, i picked up a bag of ghiradelli squares. as a sort of spur of the moment idea, i decided to pick up a rabbit vibrator (unfortunately costco doesn't stock these so i had to head over to the nearby adult toy store). never really been into toys before, but i had all kinds of porno shit playing in my head and i figured if i got two or three girls, it might come in handy.
arrived in manila 5am on tuesday march 23rd. changed some money at the airport terminal. exchange rate was much better than what was being offered in the states. for anyone travelling out here, definitely don't bother changing money before you leave. manila exchange rate was 45 to the dollar, us airport was 37 with a 8 dollar service fee. another good tip i got from the board. anyway, headed over to the metered taxis and gave him the g hotel address. fare was around 200 php. unfortunately it was only 7am or so, and with check-in at 2pm and having just gotten off a 16 hour flight, i decided to opt for the early check in option (2000php!). oh well.
after snoozing for several hours, i woke up around 2pm and decided to head over to the la cafe area. i walked around for a bit to get a feel for the area. there's no real sidewalk on many streets and no stops or lights, so you have to be pretty nimble and aware of the traffic. even at 2pm on a tuesday afternoon, there were a lot of girls working the street. people weren't kidding about the girls being aggressive. i made accidental eye contact with one and she followed me for like 4 blocks. she was actually pretty cute, but all i wanted to do at that time was get a bite, so i blew her off and headed over to robinson mall. the mall is pretty huge, i didn't bother walking through it all figuring i'd have time to do so over the next several days. i recall reading some posts about other isg members trolling for freelancers there. i wasn't planning on heading that route for the first day, so i didn't really pay too much attention. maybe later. after grabbing a bite, i decided to head over to la cafe.
lots of girls in there at around 4pm or so, but not really packed. a handful of lookers, but mostly average to below average in my opinion. i decided to get a drink and browse the crowd for a bit. i'm not seated for more than 2 minutes when one of the average looking girls comes by and asks if she can sit down. i wasn't really interested, but said she could sit anyway. her name was kahti i think. she was actually pretty cool to talk to, but i kept sort of ignoring her as i wanted to find someone else to take for a st session. after another beer or two, i was starting to think she wouldn't be too bad and had just about made up my mind to ask her when this cute little spinner walks in and stands right next to our table. she says her name is candy, so we start talking and it becomes obvious i'm more interested in her than kahti. kahti keeps trying to talk me into a threesome, but i'm really not feeling game for it for my first session and wanted to keep things a bit simpler. it is a bit awkward as i'm not quite sure how to get rid of kahti. finally i just tell candy i'm interested in a short time session and how much would that b. i get the 'it's up to you' answer. great. forewarning for all other first timers. just tell her what you are going to pay up front, it'll save you some headache later (if you are partial to the guilt trip). i felt a little bad for kahti so i gave her a 100php and told her maybe next time (as you can see i am partial). candy and i are off to the g-hotel.
so we get in the room and get ready to take a shower. i'm getting a little nervous as she keeps hiding her body from me and saying 'i'm shy! '. everytime i look at her she covers herself 'i'm shy! '. she also doesn't look quite as good in the room as she did in the bar either. the first thing she tells me is she's had a baby as she has a few stretch marks and her tits are a little droopy even though they are small. whatever. i flew 16 hours for this, so unless something is fishy with the plumbing, this is going to happen. so we start to make out, and it becomes obvious she doesn't know how to kiss. it's all awkward and i can see her eyes open and looking around. when she goes down to blow me, it's obvious she's struggling with it and she keeps saying how big i am (not true, but she was only about 4'10" so it's all relative i guess). as gratifying as it is seeing her massaging her jaw and keep plugging away at it, i decide to return the favor and go down on her. can anyone guess what comes next?
"i don't like, i'm shy! "
this is starting to become a serious buzzkill, so i just flip her over doggy and bang away till i bust my nut. the irritation actually helped. afterwards (actually all the time) she is very sweet and cuddly, and even gets me going for a second round, i'm trying to coach her a bit and being more patient, but i end up just resorting to the first method. we end up killing the rest of the time just hanging out and watching tv and she says there is a really cool seafood restaurant nearby where you can buy the food from the market next door and the restaurant will cook it for you cheaply. sounds pretty interesting so i ask her if she wants to eat dinner there. i figure i'll take my leave after and head back over to la cafe to look for another girl. before we head out, i peel off 2000php and leave it by her bag figuring this would be a fair amount. she then tells me that this is not enough. it's supposed to be 3k for short time and since we did it twice it's 6k. wtf!!
i remind her, she said it was 'up to me', and she says she is willing to give me a 'discount' of 2k per pop. i'm a little pissed at this point, but she looks more sad than anything so i give her another 1k (i think i'm going to hear about this from a lot of people on the board, but damn i'm soft.) and tell her thats it. i'm thinking about walking at this point, but i've already spent the money and i kinda wanted to check this place out so we head out. in the cab, she's all apologetic and tells me i can fuck her for free from this point on, and what she's going to buy for her daughter with the money etc. etc. i'm not really hearing it at this point but it kind of works out in the end.
anyway, the place is pretty interesting (i forget what it's called), but there are lots of vendors selling all types of seafood (lobster, crab, shrimp, fish etc.) and a person from the restaurant walks around with you. we ended up getting a kilo of crab for 500php and had the restaurant prepare it in a chili garlic sauce with some fried rice. two san migs for me and a melon shake for her and the bill came out to about 500php. during dinner, she shows me pics of her daughter. i tell her i'm going out drinking after dinner (she doesn't drink or smoke) so we'll probably call it quits then. she says that she will be my guide for the evening and wherever i want to go she will help me out for no charge. she also admits that she is bad at sex and does this once in a while (she works a regular job at a jollibee) to make money for her daughter. same ol' story. pregnant in high school and the guy ran out on her. anyway, after dinner she insists on finding me some quality tail and says she will take me to 'the complex'. after a bit of inquiry i find out this is the edsa complex and as i had seen it mentioned on the board but didn't know a lot about if figured she might be helpful. so off we go!
ok. i know i've only seen la cafe on a tuesday afternoon, but damn edsa is the shit. we walk through all the different clubs and there are 15-20 girls lined up in bikini's on stage (no hidden stretch marks or droopy boobs!). sit down, have a few beers and make your pick. for some reason, candy decides that she is going to tell everyone that she is my wife and we're here to pick a girl for me. (can someone from the board more familiar with the phillippines let me know if this actually happens?). she tells me that bar fine is 1500php and that the girls are between 1500 st and 2500 lt. this ends up being somewhat off as the girls i pull of stage are all telling me that lt is 4000php. i offered 3k and had 2 girls walk on me. granted, i picked (to me) the hottest, youngest girls on the stage but damn. finally i pick this young hardbody (maui) that agrees to 3k php for lt. (candy does the negotiation). she also keeps telling me not to pay her until the morning as some girls will split early. also some other warnings (earlier) about a lot of la cafe girls being on drugs and rip-off artists (i resist the temptation to remind her of our afternoon transaction). anyways, we close the deal and candy gives me her number and tells me to call her to let her know how it went, or if there is a problem. she takes a cab home and maui and i are off to the ghotel.
she says she is 20 years old, and her english is not as good as candy's. our conversation is a lot more limited, but i could really care less about conversation with a 20 year old. since our only common ground seems to be familiarity with the jabberwockeez, maybe it's a benefit. no droopy tits or stretch marks on this one. lean and tight. after showering she starts off with a bj and it's very promisiing as it's deep and wet, with lots of slobber and bls. yeah! this is what i came here for. while in missionary, she kind of keeps her legs a bit together so i can't thrust all the way and when i do manage to get it all the way in, she winces a bit but doesn't complain. i'm really not big so i don't know what the problem is, so i flip her doggy and pound away to my hearts content. she is moaning a lot and when i'm done, it seems like i had hurt her a bit. she keeps saying it's ok, but i'm feeling a bit bad about it all. so i remember the chocolate and ask her if she wants some. man her eyes light up and she loves it. she asks if she can have a few more in the morning to share with her sister and i say no problem. we get another session in before the night is over and she goes to take a bath and i tell her i'm going to want to hit that one more time before she leaves (we negotiated 6am). we both get up around 5am and after another shower we have another round of pretty much the same menu. i leave her the 3k with a 500php tip and a fistful of chocolate and she is super happy. keeps hugging and kissing me and it starts to be a little weird how happy she is with the chocolate. oh yes, one more detail. she didn't want daty either. says she doesn't like it. i was a bit disappointed as she was clean shaven and looking tasty as hell. i wonder if this has to do with image as she says she is shy as well (wants most of the lights out) and when i tell her she is pretty she keeps saying she's ugly (i know a lot of women say this, but seems different somehow). maybe i should go read that filipinas advice thread. anyway, it's now 8am and i've popped 5 times in the last 24 hours. at this rate i'm going to be shooting blanks by the end of the trip. figure i'll get some sleep, get some food, then do some research to see where i want to hit next. if anyone reads this in time, any advice is appreciated. my rabbit hasn't gotten any action so maybe that will be the next step.
thanks for reading. end day 1
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Cunning Stunt
03-24-10, 11:23
...i peel off 2000php and leave it by her bag figuring this would be a fair amount. she then tells me that this is not enough. it's supposed to be 3k for short time and since we did it twice it's 6k. wtf!!
wow, man, candy must have thought her wildest dreams had come true and she had found her own personal, walking atm. this is why bar girls ask where you come from, where you stay, are you on holiday and most importantly is this your first trip in country. knowing this they can figure out that you probably don't know the real prices but have lots of dosh to spend.
best always to tell them that you are an expat resident or at least a frequent visitor.
from the sound of your report, candy didn't even give you particularly good service. i would have booted her out with p1000. if she had improved her service exponentially the rate would have been a max of p1500 st.
no wonder she didn't want to lose you and offered to be your guide. she was obviously a consummate lac pro!
ok. first trip report for me, so here goes.
flight to manila for sunday night and reservations at the g-hotel.the rookie reports are the best. no fun to read babble from a guy who thinks he knows it all. how did you find the g-hotel? i think it's cool a little dive.
i decided to opt for the early check in option (2000php!). oh well.hell your lucky i have had made it to 5 star hotels in bangkok and have to wait another 2 hours later for the room to be ready.
after snoozing for several hours, i woke up around 2pm and decided to head over to the la cafe area. i walked around for a bit to get a feel for the area. there's no real sidewalk on many streets and no stops or lights, so you have to be pretty nimble and aware of the traffic. even at 2pm on a tuesday afternoon, there were a lot of girls working the street. people weren't kidding about the girls being aggressive. i made accidental eye contact with one and she followed me for like 4 blocks. she was actually pretty cute,welcome to pi.
i decided to head over to la cafe. her name was kahti i think. she was actually pretty cool to talk to, but i kept sort of ignoring her as i wanted to find someone else to take for a st session. after another beer or two, i was starting to think she wouldn't be too bad and had just about made up my mind to ask her when this cute little spinner walks in and stands right next to our table. she says her name is candy, so we start talking and it becomes obvious i'm more interested in her than kahti. kahti keeps trying to talk me into a threesome, but i'm really not feeling game for it for my first session and wanted to keep things a bit simpler. it is a bit awkward as i'm not quite sure how to get rid of kahti. finally i just tell candy i'm interested in a short time session and how much would that b. i get the 'it's up to you' answer. great. forewarning for all other first timers. just tell her what you are going to pay up front, it'll save you some headache later (if you are partial to the guilt trip). i felt a little bad for kahti so i gave her a 100php and told her maybe next time (as you can see i am partial). candy and i are off to the g-hotel.dude throw out a price and if they don't like it they will counter. for st in manila i wouldn't pay more then 1000k.
so we get in the room and get ready to take a shower. i'm getting a little nervous as she keeps hiding her body from me and saying 'i'm shy! '. everytime i look at her she covers herself 'i'm shy! '. she also doesn't look quite as good in the room as she did in the bar either. the first thing she tells me is she's had a baby as she has a few stretch marks and her tits are a little droopy even though they are small. whatever. i flew 16 hours for this, so unless something is fishy with the plumbing, this is going to happen. so we start to make out, and it becomes obvious she doesn't know how to kiss. it's all awkward and i can see her eyes open and looking around. when she goes down to blow me, it's obvious she's struggling with it and she keeps saying how big i am (not true, but she was only about 4'10" so it's all relative i guess). as gratifying as it is seeing her massaging her jaw and keep plugging away at it, i decide to return the favor and go down on her. can anyone guess what comes next?
"i don't like, i'm shy! "
this is starting to become a serious buzzkill,this is typical filipina behavior. sometimes they are really shy, sometime they full of shit and trying to pull a fast one. after you build up your repertoire you will be able to tell which is which.
. so i just flip her over doggy and bang away till i bust my nut. the irritation actually helped. afterwards (actually all the time) she is very sweet and cuddly, and even gets me going for a second round, i'm trying to coach her a bit and being more patient, but i end up just resorting to the first method. we end up killing the rest of the time just hanging out and watching tv and she says there is a really cool seafood restaurant nearby where you can buy the food from the market next door and the restaurant will cook it for you cheaply. sounds pretty interesting so i ask her if she wants to eat dinner there.filipino bar girls like to hang out with guys they meet especially if they feel like the guy is worth hanging out with. (cool, looks like money, or naive.)
i figure i'll take my leave after and head back over to la cafe to look for another girl. before we head out, i peel off 2000php and leave it by her bag figuring this would be a fair amount. she then tells me that this is not enough. it's supposed to be 3k for short time and since we did it twice it's 6k. wtf!i would have told her to go to hell man. 6k? no way son. my price scale for manila girls vst= one or two pops no more than 1000. lt=2000 multiple pops. vlt= touch cervix many times for a long period of time. half a day? no more 3500.
i remind her, she said it was 'up to me', and she says she is willing to give me a 'discount' of 2k per pop. i'm a little pissed at this point, but she looks more sad than anything so i give her another 1k (i think i'm going to hear about this from a lot of people on the board, but damn i'm soft.) and tell her thats it. i'm thinking about walking at this point, but i've already spent the money and i kinda wanted to check this place out so we head out. in the cab, she's all apologetic and tells me i can fuck her for free from this point on, and what she's going to buy for her daughter with the money etc. etc. i'm not really hearing it at this point but it kind of works out in the end.either she is off her rocker or trying to play you for a fool. stand your ground.
but damn edsa is the shit.i agree.
she says she is 20 years old, and her english is not as good she winces a bit but doesn't complain. all the girls/experiences are different some will be memorable some will be forgettable.
anyway, it's now 8am and i've popped 5 times in the last 24 hours. at this rate i'm going to be shooting blanks by the end of the trip.again welcome to pi.
thanks for reading. end day 1thanks for the post.
Starchild2012
03-24-10, 15:18
ok. first trip report for me, so here goes.
hey man....good report....you need to understand, la cafe gets a lots of hype around this forum which is not really worth it, as its a crappy hole for old expats who live here and have plenty of time to drink and die.
i don't know why people even mention its name here, when you have plenty of other places to go. forget, about the experience with candy, the whole place stinks of low life. if you take 10 girls out from that place, you will have may be 2-3 good experience. i may be harsh on the place, but it is necessary to avoid innocent first time mongers be scammed.
i have been telling mongers to avoid la cafe since the day i visited that place, its getting promoted for no good reason other than it is owned by an australian. don't blame candy or chocolate for the bad experience, you could just avoid the whole place, and you will be safer.
edsa complex is good in that you can always see what you gonna get, and the price is fixed, the bar fine is 700 php for regular bikini girls and some model looking girls bar fine is 1500 and you pay the girls 1500 to 2500 both long time. i don't think there is any short time, if you don't say st it is taking the girls out for the night and it will be 1500 to 2500 for the girl.
however, be careful about the **** problem in edsa, lotsa japanese folks come in droves and pick girls in dozen and pack them up in a van. check the id, just to be sure.
i don't know your taste on girls, when you enter the complex, to your left, girls on cow boy hat are good for the taking, but the barfine and lt is higher, i forgot the bar name, they have a arab place on top floor, where you can select good shapely girls as i call them arab types and filipinas girls doing belly dancing.
****here is the tip, if you want good service....never select girls below 24-25 in ph..they are inexperienced....you need a girl who is in the game for atleast 2 years...experience counts in co orporate world so does in the bar world :). a girl above 25 is bit more mature and not all about action and reaction.
basically, you could have headed straight to angeles city to experience everything, the good, the bad and the best....i think there is no ugly experience in the ph.
just chill, enjoy your stay, be cool, smile around, we all go through the same motion.
try burgos street bar one after the other and select the one you like..
pick up girls from makati greenbelt area bar called havana cafe...lots of freelancer and better than la cafe vibe.
as this is your first time, you may be better with trying havana cafe freelancer girls than burgus street gogo girls, they seems to be more mature, besides it more fun there, lots of restaurant etc.
you will save more money with freelancer girls save on barfine and use that money to pick another girl :)
good luck...hope you enjoy your trip here
SuperSteve
03-24-10, 16:36
Ah Manila...........
I had a question about Sim cards and minutes before I left. At the airport after exiting, there is an exchange booth that, as was stated before gave $ 45.50 which was just below what I received in AC. There is also a Smart kiosk selling Sim cards and minutes that was $540 PHP, which was enough for texting during the week. The lady installed the Sim, called the number, and had my phone working prior to leaving her.
We went to one of the bars near our hotel (Omni) and while they had some hot young ladies, the quotes were out of the ballpark, $3,000 ST.
We later hit the infamous LACafe. For those who have been to Costa Rica, think the Hotel del Rey/Blue Marlin, except with more hustle. It was like a strip club. Look at a lady, and she would be right there, whether you wanted her or not. Being in TJ twice a month or so, my ability to say no is very advanced.
Anyway, after having a couple of rum & cokes, I spot a lady who looks out of place. Nicely dressed, not drinking, and by herself. I talk to her for a while, and then we go to eat in the pool room. It is average food at best. After dinner, we go back out to the bar area, and the crowd has grown to about 5-1 in our favor. The lady that I had been talking to was still by herself, and I sent over a drink (she ordered pineapple juice) that I told her I would buy earlier. A lady standing beside me asked me why I did that, and I explained that I had told her I would buy a drink for her earlier. She goes up to the lady and tells her to come sit beside me. I ask her why she didn't come over, and she says, "You didn't ask me". This is very strange in this place where a glance gets a women to you immediately, whether you want her or not.
We talked for a while and she really warmed up. She says she is a part timer (who knows), that hasn't been in for two months. She says that she is very horny, and the way she is rubbing her body on mine, and placing my hands, it must be true, after talking to her for a while. Back to the hotel, and it is game on. She does a DFK, BBBJCIM, and says the next round she wants me in her, which happens when we wake up. A total GFE experience for the standard $ 2,000 PHP LACafe exit fee.
I understand what the previous poster has said about the LACafe. It seems to be a real hustle place, but as with any venue there always seems to be the diamond in the rough. It's just that at places like the LACafe HDR/Blue Marlin the ability to say no is a must. I didn't have time to try other spots as this was my last night in PI after a week in AC.
One other thing. There is an exit tax of $700 PHP, or $16.00 USD, that must be paid in cash. I saw a guy try to pay with a credit card, and he was sent to go get cash. Make sure to have some cash with you at the airport upon leaving.
Thanks to all that gave me input prior to my first PI journey.
health & happiness to all.............
Back to the hotel, and it is game on. She does a DFK, BBBJCIM, and says the next round she wants me in her, which happens when we wake up. A total GFE experience for the standard $ 2,000 PHP LACafe exit fee.
I understand what the previous poster has said about the LACafe. It seems to be a real hustle place, but as with any venue there always seems to be the diamond in the rough. It's just that at places like the LACafe HDR/Blue Marlin the ability to say no is a must. I didn't have time to try other spots as this was my last night in PI after a week in AC.
Just a few notes. There is no standard Peso 2000 exit fee at LA Cafe. You negotiate with the girl and agree on a price. Mostly they say, "Whatever you think." Or, "It's up to you." You simply counter with, "I'll give you 1000 peso's and a good tip if the service is good." If she declines it just wait for another girl.
Also, you can't pick a "Diamond in the rough" at LA Cafe unless you frequent the place on a weekly basis. Do you think the girls will tell you they have been working there for 2yrs, 5yrs? Not likely. I saw a girl working there last January who I took out back in 2006. Her name was Joan and she fed me the same story about having been there only a week or so. It's all about economics. The girls at LA Cafe will tell you whatever they think works to get in your wallet, and many of them are very good at what they do. It's a business for them...only pleasure for us.
YM
I only had a brief visit to Manila this year - nothing that could be taken as statistically significant. I paid girls from LA Cafe (based largely on recommendations on this board) either 1200 or 1500. I basically said to them that that was what I paid and that it was 'up to them' lol. At G-Place, I paid 1000 which was accepted immediately.
I felt the quality of service, attractiveness of the ladies, their degree of sophistication and so on, even the ease of obtaining a good experience in a short amount of available hunting time, was far superior in all respects to AC. Fans of AC might well disagree. But I probably wouldn't hesitate to return to Manila if I had cause (based on the mongering) - especially as I had only scratched the surface so to speak. What's more, I found it fun. Though transport is not great and the options for worthwhile things other than mongering seem to require considerable effort. But LA Cafe was good value. The small bar opposite of the same name is a nice place to chill and laugh and joke if the sales pitch in the main bar becomes oppressive.
I feel a sense of some affection for the LA Cafe girls and those in the surrounding area. And the prices meant that money wasn't a big issue, and I quite like that.
SuperSteve
03-24-10, 20:57
My comment "who knows" was in reference to not really caring if she is there everyday, or it is her first time. I was offered a girl in AC by a mama san that I made nice to. It was her second day on the job, out of the provinces. I turned it down when she looked at me with the "deer in the headlights" look. I prefer someone who has been at P4P for a while, and am not looking for a cherry girl, or newbie. It is more about making a connection during the interview, rather than how long they have been hooking.
In P4P if a ladies lips are moving, it should be considered a lie, until data proves otherwise.
Whether she was a "diamond in the rough" is subjective. She was not at all like the first 5-6 ladies that hit on me, nor was she dressed like them. I will say that, having been around P4P for over forty years, she offered some very good quality GFE services. That is all that really matters to me.
It really doesn't matter since I don't think I will be returning to PI. For what I enjoy in P4P, I would rather be in MDE, if for no other reason than the long ass plane ride to PI.
I appreciate your input, it made me think.
Health & happiness.......
Itsoweezee
03-25-10, 01:26
The rookie reports are the best. No fun to read babble from a guy who thinks he knows it all. How did you find the G-hotel? I think it's cool a little dive.Someone recommended it in the 'Manila Hotels' thread. It looked pretty cool online, but much like an internet escort a little different in reality. Still not too bad, although for the price I kinda expected better. I am hoping it is much better than the Executive Suite which I was originally considering as it was much cheaper.
Welcome to PI. Dude throw out a price and if they don't like it they will counter. For ST in Manila I wouldn't pay more then 1000K.Yeah, I learned my lesson. 'Up to you' means I throw out a price and see if they bite. Wish I read this earlier as I just pulled a girl out of LA Cafe for 1500 that I probably could have had for 1000.
Filipino Bar girls like to hang out with guys they meet especially if they feel like the guy is worth hanging out with. (Cool, looks like money, or naive.)I probably fit the bill on all three for her. During dinner she was trying to talk me into going to her parent's house, telling me her mom would cook for me and I could drink with her dad. Wow. Not what I was expecting at all, and there was no way in hell I was going to take her up on that offer.
I would have told her to go to hell man. 6K? No way son. My price scale for Manila girls VST= one or two pops no more than 1000. LT=2000 multiple pops. VLT= touch cervix many times for a long period of time. Half a day? No more 3500. Either she is off her rocker or trying to play you for a fool. Stand your ground.Yeah, I have to get better at that. Didn't pay her the 6K, but should have stood solid on the 2.
All the girls/experiences are different some will be memorable some will be forgettable. Again welcome to PI.I actually quite enjoyed that last girl. I think I'm done w/ LA Cafe for now (tried again and it was OK but I think I prefer EDSA even w/ the higher prices)
Thanks for the post.Thanks for the comments.
Itsoweezee
03-25-10, 01:53
Hey Man. Good report. You need to understand, LA cafe gets a lots of hype around this forum which is not really worth it, as its a crappy hole for old expats who live here and have plenty of time to drink and die.Thanks man. Like I said, I've been reading this forum for a while now (back when it was another forum) and want to give something back (even if it will only benefit the rookies). Yeah, as I mentioned in response to a previous comment I think I'm done with that place for now. I can see the attraction, but maybe just not my cup of tea as I thought the top girls at EDSA were way better (IMHO) than the finest I saw at LA Cafe. I know they are more expensive, but what the hell. I'm on vacation.
I have been telling mongers to avoid LA cafe since the day I visited that place, its getting promoted for no good reason other than it is owned by an Australian. Don't blame candy or chocolate for the bad experience, you could just avoid the whole place, and you will be safer.Yeah, even though it wasn't good, it wasn't all bad. It doesn't really bother me as I see it more as an interesting experience. I did try LA Cafe again and while it wasn't bad, it still wasn't great.
EDSA complex is good in that you can always see what you going to get.I am totally with you on this. No stretch marks, droopy tits, belly etc. My time is short here, so I really don't want any surprises.
. And the price is fixed, the bar fine is 700 PHP for regular bikini girls and some model looking girls bar fine is 1500 and you pay the girls 1500 to 2500 both long time. I don't think there is any short time, if you don't say ST it is taking the girls out for the night and it will be 1500 to 2500 for the girl.OK. I'd like a little more clarification on this as I plan to hit EDSA again tonight. How do you separate the bikini girls from the model ones? Like I said, the girls I talked to (which I thought were the hottest) were all starting w/ 4K for LT. Two walked on me when I countered with 3. I guess I just need to be more patient and interview more girls?
. Girls on cow boy hat are good for the taking, but the barfine and LT is higher, I forgot the bar name.Hmm. I think this is where I pulled Maui out from. I recall the bartenders were all dressed up in western/cowboy outfits.
****Here is the tip, if you want good service. Never select girls below 24-25 in PH. They are inexperienced. You need a girl who is in the game for at least 2 years. Experience counts in corporate world so does in the bar world. A girl above 25 is bit more mature and not all about action and reaction.Yeah, you're probably right on this. However, since I will never pull girls that young in the states I always end up talking myself into it.
Basically, you could have headed straight to Angeles city to experience everything, the good, the bad and the best. I think there is no ugly experience in the PH.I'm actually thinking of heading there for a couple of days. I could check out early on Friday and bus it over and stay a day. Not sure if I will as I'm kind of sick of traveling right now, but then again I probably won't make it back out here anytime soon.
Just chill, enjoy your stay, be cool, smile around, we all go through the same motion.Again, I'm with you on this. Even though its been kind of hit and miss, I'm still enjoying it. It's an experience you know? Good or bad, you get something out of it. Will definitely check out Makati area this afternoon. Thanks for the advice!
Itsoweezee
03-25-10, 02:56
Ok. First off, thanks for the comments/tips. They are appreciated.
My 'short snooze' at 7am ended up lasting 16 hours. Damn, when I woke up I almost forgot where I was, I checked my watch and it was 11pm! I guess I had been getting away with 5 hours of sleep or less for like 4 days or so and the bill had come due.
Anyway, headed out immediately for some food at Max's, which was around a 5 minute walk from the hotel. Pretty good fried chicken, although I think I like Popeye's better (king of fast food fried chicken!). After eating, I decided to head back to the hotel for a bit as I still was feeling a bit woozy from the long sleep and I guess having some beers with dinner didn't help either.
After relaxing for a bit, decided I wanted to head out and have a few drinks. I went to the LA Cafe (chill side) as I just wanted to zone out and drink for a bit before going out and finding a girl. Ironically, as soon as I walked in, a couple of girls were on me. I tried being polite and not showing interest, but they were pretty persistent. The girl next to me (forgot her name) would start talking to me, and after getting frustrated with my one word answers would put her head down for a nap. I'd continue drinking and every 10 minutes or so she would start talking to me again. Get tired w/ my single word answers and put her head down. Pretty weird.
After a few beers and a shot of Jamesons (TIP: Hard Liquor is expensive and you will ONLY get 1oz per drink. Think it was like 220PHP and it was barely a sip. Not recommended) I decided to head over to LA Cafe to give it another shot. It was already 3AM so I wanted to get something pretty quick. When I walked in, it looked pretty crowded. Not packed, but definitely more people than the previous afternoon. Walked around for a bit and didn't see anything particularly interesting although there were a few maybes. Decided to try the upstairs section and it was totally dead. Handful of girls already sitting with guys.
I head back downstairs and circle around for like another hour and still haven't found anyone I really wanted to pull the trigger on. Talked to a few girls, but didn't find anyone really interesting. There was a girl playing pool in the back with a HUGE rack (her tits, not the billiard kind). It was almost ridiculously large on her. I do say 'almost' as I totally wanted to bang her. Unfortunately she was pretty much surrounded and all my attempts at eye contact were not returned.
As it was almost 430am I decided I should just pick one already. Decided on a cute little spinner (my tastes are becoming obvious) after talking to her for a bit. Asked her how much for ST and she said 'Up to you'. Having learned my lesson from the previous day, I offered 1500 which she immediately accepted. (TIP: Apparently you can get by with offering 1000. Read a post comment too late.) So we head out of the bar and are immediately surrounded by the dregs hanging around outside. Trying to sell me flowers, condoms, get me a taxi etc. I am waving them off and proceeding down the street and they continue hounding us up to and including trying to get in the taxi. All the while I'm saying get the hell away and continue to be pestered for money. Finally they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off after yelling all kinds of insults. Actually in retrospect they were yelling at each other too as I think they were competing for people to ripoff. So another tip (which I had read earlier and forgot) have the girl meet you down the street. Definitely worthwhile as you (usually) don't get bothered if you leave alone.
So we get back to the hotel and again, I am underwhelmed when she gets undressed. Not bad, but not what I thought when I saw her in the club. No stretch marks, but tits a little droopy *she says she's 21, looks like she's in high school. WTF with these droopy tits?!! * We start off with some kissing and she pulls out my cock and starts blowing me. Things are definitely getting much better. We decide to take a shower and get down to business. I figure it's time to break out the rabbit since he has been neglected up until this point, but she's not into it. Damn.
Go to missionary and she is clearly enjoying herself (me too) and I flip her over for doggy. I can see her start rubbing her clit, so I grab that rabbit turn it on max and apply it for her. Yeah! That turned up the heat!. No penetration, but at least a warmup for the rabbit! I'm banging away worried I'm going to nut too soon, she's juicing all over the place, and all of a sudden noodle dick! What the hell? I rip off the rubber, wipe off my dick and stick it in her mouth but it will only get semi-hard. I'm thinking it's the booze, hour whatever. We try fucking again, and same thing! Stick it back in her mouth, and again, semi-hard. I'm kinda wigging out, never WANTED to fuck and couldn't get it up (NOTE: Being totally shit faced drunk doesn't count). Anyway, after taking a quick break and cuddling for a bit, we go at it again. This time in cowgirl, after a few minutes of this I'm pumping her ass up and down like a jackhammer as I can feel I'm on the edge, and DAMN after working so hard for the O, I bust a huge nut. Even after, I keep working that ass as it feels so good. When she finally gets off, the damn rubber slips off and I'm covered in goo. Great.
At this point it's 630am and I really don't feel trying for a second round. I pay her the 1500, throw in a few chocolates and she's happy and out the door. I immediately scold my dick for scaring the shit out of me but he's a selfish bastard and doesn't care cause he's a prick.
Not bad, but I think it's EDSA for me from now. Going to check out Makati today as well.
End Day 2
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Itsoweezee
03-25-10, 03:05
Just a few notes. There is no standard Peso 2000 exit fee at LA Cafe. You negotiate with the girl and agree on a price. Mostly they say, "Whatever you think. " Or, "It's up to you. " You simply counter with, "I'll give you 1000 peso's and a good tip if the service is good. " If she declines it just wait for another girl.
Also, you can't pick a "Diamond in the rough" at LA Cafe unless you frequent the place on a weekly basis. Do you think the girls will tell you they have been working there for 2yrs, 5yrs? Not likely. I saw a girl working there last January who I took out back in 2006. Her name was Joan and she fed me the same story about having been there only a week or so. It's all about economics. The girls at LA Cafe will tell you whatever they think works to get in your wallet, and many of them are very good at what they do. It's a business for them. Only pleasure for us.
YMI second this. My first time here, second day and this is now obvious to me. All the girls say the same thing. Also, definitely no standard exit fee for tax. You either got took (I did too, but in a different way), or were at a different bar. No harm, not much over the standard rate anyway although the exit tax thing sucks. Who did you pay it too? I would think it this was a scam by the staff you could go back and at least complain about it.
Being a lover of Phils P4P, I just have to ask?
What/where is MDE?
My comment "who knows" was in reference to not really caring if she is there everyday, or it is her first time. I was offered a girl in AC by a mama san that I made nice to. It was her second day on the job, out of the provinces. I turned it down when she looked at me with the "deer in the headlights" look. I prefer someone who has been at P4P for a while, and am not looking for a cherry girl, or newbie. It is more about making a connection during the interview, rather than how long they have been hooking.
In P4P if a ladies lips are moving, it should be considered a lie, until data proves otherwise.
Whether she was a "diamond in the rough" is subjective. She was not at all like the first 5-6 ladies that hit on me, nor was she dressed like them. I will say that, having been around P4P for over forty years, she offered some very good quality GFE services. That is all that really matters to me.
It really doesn't matter since I don't think I will be returning to PI. For what I enjoy in P4P, I would rather be in MDE, if for no other reason than the long ass plane ride to PI.
I appreciate your input, it made me think.
Health & happiness.
Cunning Stunt
03-25-10, 12:30
Being a lover of Phils P4P, I just have to ask?
What/where is MDE?
Michigan Department of Education? Maybe not. Try Medellin.
There was a girl playing pool in the back with a HUGE rack (her tits, not the billiard kind). It was almost ridiculously large on her.
Wow, that's a rarity for LAC. No wonder she was surrounded.
No stretch marks, but tits a little droopy *she says she's 21, looks like she's in high school. WTF with these droopy tits?!!
Doesn't seem, however, that you are having much luck in the tits department;).
So we head out of the bar and are immediately surrounded by the dregs hanging around outside. Trying to sell me flowers, condoms, get me a taxi etc. I am waving them off and proceeding down the street and they continue hounding us up to and including trying to get in the taxi.
Yes, they are a pain and a menace. I always ask the girl to follow me and then dodge around the corner onto Salas. 50 yards up the road is the access road for Roxas Boulevard with lots of taxis.
Best of luck in your continuing adventures in Manila. Keep the reports coming.
SuperSteve
03-25-10, 14:03
Sorry about the MDE reference, yes it is Medellin, Colombia.
As I said about P4P women, if their lips are moving they are lying.
The exit tax is at the airport in Manila, and trust me, all had to pay it on the day I left. That being said, I would assume from the set-up, it is a tax all have to pay always. You do not get to immigration to exit unless you have paid it. I had never heard of the exit tax prior to arriving at the airport. Just keep $700 PHP or $16.00 USD, in cash, with you for departure. If you don't have cash, they will kick you out of line until you have cash, as I saw this happen. You would probably need to find an ATM somewhere. That was a hassle I wouldn't want at that point. No credit cards taken by them.
Also, something that I enjoyed was the VIP lounge at the Manila airport. I had a little over three hour lay over. It is not connected with any airline, and probably run by the airport. It was about 600 PHP with a small buffet, beer, wine, soft drinks, cold milk, and hot soup, all you could eat or drink. They have nice chairs, plenty of pugs to charge electronics, and quiet. It made the 3+ hours more bearable.
Health & happiness to all..............
Ok. First off, thanks for the comments/tips. They are appreciated.No thank you for the infotainment. The reports are what it is all about. This thread seems to get tied down in geriatric bureaucracy from time to time.
Anyway, headed out immediately for some food at Max's,You have to try the shrimp.
I head back downstairs and circle around for like another hour and still haven't found anyone I really wanted to pull the trigger on. Talked to a few girls, but didn't find anyone really interesting. There was a girl playing pool in the back with a HUGE rack (her tits, not the billiard kind). It was almost ridiculously large on her. I do say 'almost' as I totally wanted to bang her. Unfortunately she was pretty much surrounded and all my attempts at eye contact were not returned.LOL. A Filipina with huge tits/ass is rare so you can imagine how most LA Café shoppers feel when presented with this. I am sure due to her um "gifts" she had her pick of wallets for the evening.
As it was almost 430am I decided I should just pick one already. Decided on a cute little spinner (my tastes are becoming obvious) after talking to her for a bit. Asked her how much for ST and she said 'Up to you'. Having learned my lesson from the previous day, I offered 1500 which she immediately accepted. (TIP: Apparently you can get by with offering 1000. Read a post comment too late.)That's the spirit.
So we head out of the bar and are immediately surrounded by the dregs hanging around outside. Trying to sell me flowers, condoms, get me a taxi etc. I am waving them off and proceeding down the street and they continue hounding us up to and including trying to get in the taxi. All the while I'm saying get the hell away and continue to be pestered for money.LOL. Again welcome to Manila. Just ignore these guys with your ears but not with your eyes stay aware of your surroundings. The panhandling bum rush could be used as a smoke screen.
Finally they [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off after yelling all kinds of insults. Actually in retrospect they were yelling at each other too as I think they were competing for people to ripoff. So another tip (which I had read earlier and forgot) have the girl meet you down the street. Definitely worthwhile as you (usually) don't get bothered if you leave alone.LOL. Mayne don't shout insults at the locals. Just as I said above ignore them and keep it moving as long as they don't invade your personal space. I have found the locals especially the males to be petty and sensitive. You don't won't end up like other ISG members with a Pumpkin head or involuntarily light pockets. As for bailing without the broad. Don't know about this one. These are her people she will know how to deal with them if they become a problem.
So we get back to the hotel and again, I am underwhelmed when she gets undressed. Not bad, but not what I thought when I saw her in the club. No stretch marks, but tits a little droopy *she says she's 21, looks like she's in high school. WTF with these droopy tits?! *Ever heard of beer goggles? Well what about Club goggles. That's a term coined by me when you see a girl at the club all dolled up and she looks hot but when you get back to the room your like maybe I had to many. Don't worry happens to the best of us every once in awhile but for some ISG members this seems to be their forte
. It's time to break out the rabbit since he has been neglected up until this point, but she's not into it. Damn.I never understood the point of the toys. Only show up with hard dick and bubble gum. Make sure you're out of bubble gum.
! I'm banging away worried I'm going to nut too soon, she's juicing all over the place, and all of a sudden noodle dick! What the hell? I rip off the rubber, wipe off my dick and stick it in her mouth but it will only get semi-hard. I'm thinking it's the booze, hour whatever. We try fucking again, and same thing! Stick it back in her mouth, and again, semi-hard. I'm kinda wigging out, never WANTED to fuck and couldn't get it up (NOTE: Being totally shit faced drunk doesn't count).Probably should have indulged one of the Viagra vendors. You on vacation mayne don't let a limp pole get in the way.
Going to check out Makati today as well.
End Day 2For Makati woe. Is he of little wallet.
Itsoweezee
03-25-10, 21:27
Wow, that's a rarity for LAC. No wonder she was surrounded.Yes, I'm not kidding about ridiculous, she literally looked like she was about to tip over. Whenever she leaned over for a shot (tank top naturally), her tits would just sort of 'settle' on the table.
Doesn't seem, however, that you are having much luck in the tits department.Definitely not. Had another A Cup girl today but she made up for it in other ways. Not really a big tit guy normally, but all the small tits are making me want for variety. I think for my last night, will definitely have to pull 2 girls, with the main criteria for one of them having a sizeable chest.
Yes, they are a pain and a menace. I always ask the girl to follow me and then dodge around the corner onto Salas. 50 yards up the road is the access road for Roxas Boulevard with lots of taxis.Yeah, I think I might compile a list of all the most useful tips at the end of the report if it seems like there are enough to be helpful. This one is definitely up there.
Best of luck in your continuing adventures in Manila. Keep the reports coming.Thanks. The next one is going to be good or bad depending on your point of view. Still fun though.
Itsoweezee
03-25-10, 21:29
The exit tax is at the airport in Manila, and trust me, all had to pay it on the day I left. That being said, I would assume from the set-up, it is a tax all have to pay always. You do not get to immigration to exit unless you have paid it. I had never heard of the exit tax prior to arriving at the airport. Just keep $700 PHP or $16. 00 USD, in cash, with you for departure. If you don't have cash, they will kick you out of line until you have cash, as I saw this happen. You would probably need to find an ATM somewhere. That was a hassle I wouldn't want at that point. No credit cards taken by them.Yeah, I misread your earlier report, thought the exit tax applied to LA Cafe. Thanks for the tip!
Fast Eddie 48
03-25-10, 23:05
Sorry about the MDE reference, yes it is Medellin, Colombia.
As I said about P4P women, if their lips are moving they are lying.
The exit tax is at the airport in Manila, and trust me, all had to pay it on the day I left. That being said, I would assume from the set-up, it is a tax all have to pay always. You do not get to immigration to exit unless you have paid it. I had never heard of the exit tax prior to arriving at the airport. Just keep $700 PHP or $16.00 USD, in cash, with you for departure. If you don't have cash, they will kick you out of line until you have cash, as I saw this happen. You would probably need to find an ATM somewhere. That was a hassle I wouldn't want at that point. No credit cards taken by them.
Also, something that I enjoyed was the VIP lounge at the Manila airport. I had a little over three hour lay over. It is not connected with any airline, and probably run by the airport. It was about 600 PHP with a small buffet, beer, wine, soft drinks, cold milk, and hot soup, all you could eat or drink. They have nice chairs, plenty of pugs to charge electronics, and quiet. It made the 3+ hours more bearable.
Health & happiness to all..............Super steve
About 2 yr ago when I dep the airport forgot about the Depature tax and I was just short about 80 peso, they will not except any other currency like HKD or RMB only USD or peso, I have use up all my USD so I have to cash my Amex check 500 USD for just a lousy 80 peso.
Fast Eddie 48
Itsoweezee
03-25-10, 23:48
after i type my day 2 report, i look up and it's almost 10am already. damn i was supposed to switch to a new room with a king sized bed. due to the early check-in i had to settle for two twins pushed together (with beds this is settling, with girls this is awesome). after i call the front desk get packed up and move to my new room it's just after 12.
i check the forum and see i got a pm from manta ray who wants to have a few beers. great! i figure i'll go get some lunch then give him a call. there is a shakey's near the g-hotel (about 2 minutes walk towards la cafe next to max's) and as i haven't seen one of those since i was in elementary school (we all loved it back then), i figure i'll venture in for a try. as i remember, you can get fried chicken, spaghetti, or pizza. hell you can get all three on one plate. chicken is not bad, but i haven't had much appetite here in the phillippines and can't even get through the small plate.
i get back to the hotel and call manta ray who has some things to do in the afternoon but suggests we meet around 8 at the havana cafe in makati greenbelt 3. i was going to head there in the early afternoon but decide to leave later. i try taking a nap as at this point i've been awake 15 hours and if don't get some in before tonight, i'll be awake for over 24 hours again. my sleep clock is all screwed up and no luck. i recall reading on the board that someone had gotten cialis from a mercury pharmacy near greenbelt 3, so based on the previous night (mornings?) mechanical difficulties it might not be a bad idea to give it a try as well.
get over to greenbelt at around 530 or so. 200php fare (about 50p overpaid). the mall is freaking huge. mostly upscale shops where things cost more than the us. i walked into diesel to look for a belt and found a pretty nice one for 5, 995 php. wait. huh? that's about $130 us. walk around a little more and it's mostly the same. overpriced designer shit. well made designer shit, but definitely overpriced. as i'm walking through the mall, i realize i don't like doing this back in the us. why the hell am i doing it here? let's go see about that cialis.
i walk across the street, and there's another mall, definitely much more affordable and i walk into the mercury pharmacy. i'm a little nervous as there's all sorts of regular folk getting their medicine and most of the staff is female. i decide to wait in the line for the guy pharmacist even though it takes quite a few minutes longer. i keep waving people over to the women pharmacists. when i get to the counter, i discreetly lean over and whisper 'i need some cialis'. 'how much? ' he replies.
shit, this is going to be easy!
'four' i say. wasn't sure how much these things cost, i was thinking about 3-5 us was mentioned in some other post. when he walks back over he asks me if i have my prescription. i'm thinking of all kinds of bullshit excuses and finally just come up with 'i forgot it'. 'bring it next time' he replies. aw yeah! fire in the hole baby!
and then he rings up the four tablets. it was about 3, 500php. damn, i guess i'll just take two.
*i know the india version is available on the streets for much cheaper (like 500php for 4 or something), but i've seen it reported on the internets that these are sometimes not being mixed/dosed correctly, and was also a little concerned about what other quality control problems there could b. *
after that, i head over to havana cafe to meet manta ray. he gets there about 8 and we have a few drinks and the conversation starts with p4p here, how things have changed (a little history of manila p4p scene), other places he's been. the conversation drifts to all kinds of topics unrelated to the forum but interesting conversation nonetheless (i mean, you can't talk about pussy for 3 hours straight can you? well i'm sure some of the board members probably can.). soon after his lady friend joins us and the conversation switches to more reputable subjects, at this point it's getting late and i've been awake 24 hours. the drinks and lack of sleep are starting to hit me. i need to get to edsa now if this is ever going to happen! i take my leave and wish manta and his lady friend a pleasant evening and head off to take a taxi to edsa.
*thanks to manta ray for taking the time out, definitely a cool guy and worth trying to meet if you're in the area.
in the cab i realize i've spent more than i thought and forgot my damn bank card in the room safe. shit, now i have to book back to the g-hotel and then to edsa which loses me another 150 or so in cab fare, not to mention time. then i realize it's about 3 dollars and 30 minutes and i don't really care. at least i can do a little cialis research before i take the damn thing.
i decide to take half a pill and get some cash from the nearby atm. i jump in the cab and note that i took the pill at about 1230 and it's almost 1. on the ride over, i notice i'm standing at half mast and with just a little mental effort, i can push it to full mast. trouble is bringing it back down. he does so very reluctantly.
when we get to edsa the touts are out and about. very grabby which i don't like, and let them know it. say all the shit you want but don't put your hands on me. i circle the bars and settle on firehouse as it's supposed to be the best. immediately as i walk in, i'm swarmed by six girls. holy crap, they're all grabbing me and my dick nearly busts through my pants. damn that cialis is really working. mamasan tells me to pick one to sit with, and all the girls do their damndest to make their case. i finally pick a cute little spinner (sigh, i am so predictable) that i felt like i gelled with a little. i figure i'll buy her a drink and do some interviewing and if i don't like her answers i'll just move on.
'are you a shy girl? '
'sometimes, but when i'm in the room with you, i will not be shy! '
ok, that's kind of a pass.
'do you like sex? '
'of course! i love sex! '
pass.
'do you mind pictures? '
'if i'm naked, no face. otherwise is ok'.
acceptable pass.
'i really like long bj's. do you like giving them? '
'yes, i like to suck! ' all the while she is rubbing my cock which is furiously trying to break through my pants to see whats going on.
definite pass.
'do you like having your pussy licked? '
'yes, i love to have my pussy licked! very much! '
flying colors so far!
now time to ask one for my buddy roger.
'do you like sex toys? '
*she bursts out laughing*
'yes! i been with many japanese customers, they all like sex toys! '
woo-hoo! let's hit the fuckin' road!
bar fine = 1400, st = 2500. i'm so ready to go i don't even bargain (yes, yes, extremely bad form, but did you see her report card above?!)
all through the interview we are having drinks and making out and it's all making me really, really, stupid.
this is the first girl i'm really clicking with. her english is good and the back and forth is really working and i cannot wait to bang this chick. she is telling me she feels so comfortable with me and feels a connection, and i feel the same. so we head out and grab a cab back to the hotel all the while necking in the back seat. i can taste the vodka in her mouth and am sucking it off her tongue. by the time we get back we are ready to go! we both shower quickly and get on the bed and start aggressively making out, mouths all over each other, rolling to one side of the bed, then the other. i've got my fingers in her pussy and it's really wet and she's moaning all kinds of shit. i'm trying to remember finger banging 101 (up and hook for g spot, down and back to simulate fucking!) i'm sure i'm fucking it up but it is working and then i go down on her (passes the smell test) and i'm sucking on her pussy and working her clit with my tongue and alternating all up and down and all around. i get my whole mouth on her and suck to create a vacuum and this seems to please as well, all the while teasing my tongue around her clit then flicking it gently.
finally i break out the rabbit. 'you want this baby? ' 'yes, yes, please. ' finally buddy, you're going to get yours! i end up fucking her with that thing for 20 minutes or so making her come twice. the rabbit vibrator has these two ears that reach the clit, and you can put the ears on either side of her clit and crank the vibration level (it goes pretty high) and watch her go! i'm adding in some tongue, spitting on her pussy which seems to work with the vibration and enjoying it almost as much as she is.
after her second o, she jumps me and her mouth is all over me, face, neck, her tongue in my ear, sucking/biting my nipples and down on my cock and she buries her face in my balls and tongues them endlessly. she works her way up and down me, using her hand and body on my cock while she's dfk'ing me and humping my leg with her pussy. up and down repeatedly, this is some good shit! this goes on for a while, then i tell her i'm want to fuck her. 'yes, baby fuck me! '
while we roll over into position she jumps up and runs to the bathroom, 'i have to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)! ' all the drinks i guess, but she's still going to pay for it. while she's in there i grab a pillow off the bed and drop it on the floor near the door, and stand next to it. soon as she gets out she drops to her knees and starts sucking me again with bls till my engine is in overdrive. i pick her up and throw her on the bed, pushing her legs in the air and start fucking her on the edge of the bed. i can feel her pussy gripping me tight (someone has been doing her kegels) and i'm pumping her hard. we finally flip over for doggy and i start off at medium speed my cock is rock hard, and i'm thinking i should have come a long time ago. this cialis is the shit. then i start worrying if i'm going to be able to come, because as good as this feels, i'm nowhere near the edge. so i start banging her harder and she's responding, her face is buried in the bed and i can hear her gutteral moans 'fuck, i'm coming again baby! ' and it's fucking turning me on, so i go faster and faster and am reward with more. i look down and the rubber is white with her goo. at this point, i'm damn near max speed and i want to pound her as hard as i can as she's taking it all. i'm slapping her ass, tweaking her nipples and pushing her face into the bed even further and still i can hear her moaning, finally i'm at the point where i want to put her through the wall and then i cum and i swear i can see fucking stars.
whew! i'm rubber legged at that point, we kiss for a bit and i head over to the bathroom to cleanup, we've been going at it for about 90 minutes. probably one of, if not the longest continuous sessions i've had. (no snide remarks from the guys who get this shit all the time) when i head out, she goes in to shower and i'm thinking we're going to get a little cuddle time in, but i'm really not up for another session as there's no time and i feel drained and realize i've been awake for 30 hours. hopefully she won't want to stay too long, as i'm pretty beat and really need to get some sleep.
and she comes out fully dressed and ready to go. i'm a little stunned at this point, she's just going to split, after this mind blowing session?
'your name was xxxx right? i can just tell them at the front desk and they won't try to keep me right? '
'um yeah. ' i count out her money and she thanks me and kisses me again.
'can i get 100 for cab fare? '
'sure' i say and i peel off a note and hand it to her wordlessly.
she kisses me again and says 'bye' and is out the door.
i'm still in sort of a sex fog, coupled with the lack of sleep (like being stoned without the happiness) and booze, but i'm feeling a bit hurt by this whole thing. what happened to our 'connection'? was she just totally acting and conning me? what the hell?
so i'm out on the balcony smoking a cigarette, then i realize. she didn't play me. i played myself. i got exactly what i was supposed to get out of the deal. a great fuck. all that other shit just helped that fuck happen. another lesson learned, and the best ones should always cost a little something. otherwise they are forgotten.
now i have to go and console my rabbit. i mean, shit he did lose his virginity to her. sigh.
end day 3
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Itsoweezee
03-26-10, 00:01
No thank you for the infotainment. The reports are what it is all about. This thread seems to get tied down in geriatric bureaucracy from time to time.Yeah, I agree. I used to read a poster called Dickhead in the Argentina forums in the another forum days I think. He was a riot.
You have to try the shrimp.Will probably give it a go. Don't see a lot of places I'd like to try near the hotel.
LOL. A Filipina with huge tits/ass is rare so you can imagine how most LA Café shoppers feel when presented with this. I am sure due to her um "gifts" she had her pick of wallets for the evening.Yeah, she didn't seem to be in rotation. Hung out in the same place playing pool with all kinds of guys stationed nearby.
LOL. Mayne don't shout insults at the locals. Just as I said above ignore them and keep it moving as long as they don't invade your personal space. I have found the locals especially the males to be petty and sensitive. You don't won't end up like other ISG members with a Pumpkin head or involuntarily light pockets. As for bailing without the broad. Don't know about this one. These are her people she will know how to deal with them if they become a problem.Yeah, I actually grew up around a lot of immigrant Filipinos. Lots of them carried blades and the wrong look would get you a knife in the belly. Hyper macho culture. (The local ones were mostly cool though. Had a lot of friends)
Ever heard of beer goggles? Well what about Club goggles. That's a term coined by me when you see a girl at the club all dolled up and she looks hot but when you get back to the room your like maybe I had to many. Don't worry happens to the best of us every once in awhile but for some ISG members this seems to be their forteI think this is becoming mine. I could probably make some scratch by vetting girls for other punters. If I want to pull her out of the club, avoid.
I never understood the point of the toys. Only show up with hard dick and bubble gum. Make sure you're out of bubble gum.Never really used 'them before either. Thought it might be fun for this trip, I like giving girls orgasms and it's somewhat easy to give them multiples with just moderate effort. Consider it a warm up act if you will.
Probably should have indulged one of the Viagra vendors. You on vacation mayne don't let a limp pole get in the way.See Day 3 Post.
Yeah, I misread your earlier report, thought the exit tax applied to LA Cafe. Thanks for the tip!
Very good info. I will make my cherry trip in May, spending my last 2 days in Manila. My plan is to hit La Cafe, EDSA, Cafe Havana and Palacio Don Pedro.
Have you tried any massage places yet? Thanks
Very good info. I will make my cherry trip in May, spending my last 2 days in Manila. My plan is to hit La Cafe, EDSA, Cafe Havana and Palacio Don Pedro.
Have you tried any massage places yet? Thanks
Palacio Don Pedro is a massage place. Well-run and the girls are well-trained in massage too. Expect to use a condom though (which is fine by me because I always do anyway).
You might also like to try Phoenix Massage which is on the 3rd floor of Roman Suites, a small apartelle in Pasay Road behind New World Hotel in Makati. Just walk out of Greenbelt across towards New World, turn right and walk past New World to the next corner and take a left (with New World still on your left side) and you will see Roman Suites in front of you.
Igonore reception and go up the stairs on your left to a small landing, then take another set of stairs on the left against the wall and you will reach the fishbowl area.
Special rates before 7 pm (same as Palacio Don Pedro). Both are similar and both clean and well-run.
I alternate between them.
EDSA complex is good in that you can always see what you gonna get, and the price is fixed, the bar fine is 700 PHP for regular bikini girls and some model looking girls bar fine is 1500 and you pay the girls 1500 to 2500 both long time. I don't think there is any short time, if you don't say ST it is taking the girls out for the night and it will be 1500 to 2500 for the girl.
BL5, When was the last time you were in EDSA? Those prices (700p) are no where close to being correct.
Robb
Fast Eddie 48
03-26-10, 04:52
BL5, When was the last time you were in EDSA? Those prices (700p) are no where close to being correct.
RobbBorn /robb,
That must be over 8 yr ago first time I was there back in 2002 barfine is 800 peso then now is about 1500 peso way too much and you need to tip the girl on top of that, just take a taxi and go to AC where thing is much cheaper, cost of living in Manila has gone up alot in 10 yr hotel, food, monger has more than double don't how the local can survive.
Fast Eddie 48
Born /robb,
That must be over 8 yr ago first time I was there back in 2002 barfine is 800 peso then now is about 1500 peso way too much and you need to tip the girl on top of that, just take a taxi and go to AC where thing is much cheaper, cost of living in Manila has gone up alot in 10 yr hotel, food, monger has more than double don't how the local can survive.
Fast Eddie 48
I know what you mean. I am in AC right now and I did 9 trips to AC last year.
Robb
Itsoweezee
03-26-10, 10:34
Very good info. I will make my cherry trip in May, spending my last 2 days in Manila. My plan is to hit La Cafe, EDSA, Cafe Havana and Palacio Don Pedro.
Have you tried any massage places yet? ThanksNo, haven't tried any massage places yet, and time is running short for me (leaving tomorrow). I do have a late flight, so may check it out if I have some time.
LA Cafe is not my thing, but it is relatively cheap for Manila. 1K. 1. 5K seems to be the rate. Few pieces of advice. Choose well and trust your instincts. Avoid the dregs outside like the plague. Don't talk to any of them.
EDSA: A bit pricier, but I think what you will be happy with whatever you choose, so long as you interview first. Girls may not be *quite* as pretty as they appear in the bar, but they are close. 1. 4 / 1. 5K BF. Tips seem to be all over the place, but I'd guess 1. 5. 2. 5K for ST and 3K and up for LT (depending on how hot the girls is)
Cafe Havana: Was only there to meet Manta Ray for drinks, so can't comment on actually taking home any girls, but there appeared to be quite a few pretty girls looking for a date. You'll need to spot them though, Manta Ray was pointing them out to me throughout the night.
Good luck on your trip. I'm sure at least one of these places will fit the bill for you.
Cheers
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Palacio Don Pedro is a massage place. Well-run and the girls are well-trained in massage too. Expect to use a condom though (which is fine by me because I always do anyway).
You might also like to try Phoenix Massage which is on the 3rd floor of Roman Suites, a small apartelle in Pasay Road behind New World Hotel in Makati. Just walk out of Greenbelt across towards New World, turn right and walk past New World to the next corner and take a left (with New World still on your left side) and you will see Roman Suites in front of you.
Igonore reception and go up the stairs on your left to a small landing, then take another set of stairs on the left against the wall and you will reach the fishbowl area.
Special rates before 7 pm (same as Palacio Don Pedro). Both are similar and both clean and well-run.
I alternate between them.
Thanks RK
What are the rates?
Fast Eddie 48
03-27-10, 04:42
Thanks RK
What are the rates?To Oakwod,
Rate for don pedro and roman spa is about the same 1200 peso to the house and massage and 1500 peso for tip to the girl for FS, I like Roman better quality of the girl and the room.
Fast Eddie 48
Thanks RK
What are the rates?
I visited Palacio Don Pedro at around 8:30 pm on a weekday evening last week. At the front desk I was immediately welcomed and informed that the price was 3000 Pesos, all inclusive--1500 P for the room and 1500 P for the girl, for massage including 'extra service', for 90 minutes. The guy did not offer choices of this and that, simply 3000 P all in--easy enough!
So, I paid 1500 at the front desk, then proceeded upstairs to the fishbowl. There were about 15 gals there at the time, ranging from around a 5 to 8 out of 10. Quite a few looked sexy, though perhaps a bit more voluptuous than I usually like. I told the guy I would like a gal who is very slim and gives great service (no doubt the same request as 90% of the punters there!). He immediately pointed out a gal in the back row (number 10 if I remember correctly), and told me she would be right for me.
Sure enough she looked very slim and attractive so I quickly said OK. From there he guided me to the room, on the 4th floor. Fairly spartan room but definitely big and clean enough, with a queen sized bed and an adequately functional and clean bathroom with shower.
I waited there for around 5 mins after which there was a knock at the door--my gal. Indeed, she was very slim, and nice looking. She came in and we introduced ourselves, chatted a bit and she asked me if I want to take a shower.
Fairly functional shower session, but also friendly, with lots of chatting. Then on to the bed for the massage. At that point she asked me if I wanted 'extra service', so I said, 'of course', and she laughed. She got out the baby oil and went to work. She definitely was trained in massage, as her technique was very good, with lots of firm kneading and stretching. She was nude during the massage, which always helps! About 10 minutes with me lying on my front, then she flipped me over, for another 10 minutes. All in all, around 20 minutes or so for the massage, which seems about right as an mood-setting appetizer for a 90 min session.
Then play time. She rummaged in her bag for a condom, then started kissing my nipples, rubbing junior into attention, and heading south with her tongue. She somehow managed to slip a condom on me without breaking stride and proceeded to give a quite good CBJ, until I positioned her on her back to return the favor--couldnt let that nice, super slim body go to wasted, now could I!
I went to work with my tongue and eventually settled into full DATY mode, which she indeed seemed to enjoy. A while of that, and I headed north with my tongue, and the one slight disappointment was that she did not really want to do any mouth to mouth kissing, so I didn't press it.
From there, she was ready for it, so she guided me in Mish style. For such a small gal, she had no prob, accepting all of me (though I must admit, I am not huge) and her sounds seemed to say that she was enjoying the ride--though of course I have no idea how much of the noises were 'rehearsed'. At any rate, she did her job admirably and I popped in good time--long enough for me to enjoy the 'process', but not so long to give her any pain, stress or boredom.
After that, about 10-15 minutes of pleasant bedtime chatter with a bit of cuddling, until she asked me if I'd like a shower. So, back to the bathroom where we lingered over washing and more chatting. She dried me off, then back to the room to get dressed, then time was about up. I fairly discreetly put 1500 in her bag, making sure she could see all the bills. At that point, I also decided that I would not mind requesting her again, as the service with her may very well be a bit more intimate the second time, so I handed her a few hundred pesos and just said, 'and a little 'thank you' from me, for next time.' She seemed very pleased with that!
All in all, a nice, slim gal, no hassles, no hidden costs, and a pleasant enough experience.
MantaRay
He immediately pointed out a gal in the back row (number 10 if I remember correctly), and told me she would be right for me.
Sure enough she looked very slim and attractive so I quickly said OK. .......
MantaRay
Great description Manta. Hey we must have the same good taste. I chose #10 too and my experience matches yours exactly step by step.
She is a cutie and well worth a second trip for me too.
I hope you didn't raise her expectations too high and spoil her for me with your superb performance lol.
Starchild2012
03-29-10, 14:53
BL5, When was the last time you were in EDSA? Those prices (700p) are no where close to being correct.
Robb
yeah....it was last year....and i made the trip like three four times before settling in Manila. The barfine is higher now as reported, crap i just can't believe the cost of living here has gone up in one year :(
Starchild2012
03-29-10, 15:34
After I type my Day 2 Report, I look up and it's almost 10am already. Damn I was supposed to switch to a new room with a king sized bed. Due to the early check-in I had to settle for two twins pushed together (with beds this is settling, with girls this is awesome). After I call the front desk get packed up and move to my new room it's just after 12.
Great report once again. You did good research before venturing and enjoyed like a pro monger :) . I don't know if you still in Manila. some tips.
You don't have to think much about urchins and flower sellers in front of LA cafe or beggars etc anywhere in the PH or Asia. They should not bother you at all. I may be encouraging them, but i can't bring myself to think that i just spend so much on drinks, girls and some 10 pesos isn't gonna harm anyone. I just give some couple of 10 20 pesos to the urchins and olds guys out there and the front door men in bars i visit. and they have a big smile on their face and thats enough for me.
Guess, this is the difference between folks living in Asia and one from developed country, we have accepted begging a part of city life and don't even think about it. It was only after coming here and hearing from western mongers that i even thought that people worry about going to bars and street cos of beggars. Then i realized that, they haven't experienced what we do and live as part of our life's. If you want to truly experience Asia, you have to let go of urchins and folks trying to annoy you. Its a part of social life in big cities. You can't avoid them, they will be there for ever, i have accepted them as part of socio-economic problems in developing countries.
I'm more concerned about the Taxi drivers and fraud meters they use. Always, tell them to use meter and even with that, never ever pay more than 200 pesos for going anywhere in Manila, in the outskirts it comes to 250. Do not give tips to taxi drivers, give exact change and insist on taking you change back, else 50 -70 pesos for them is like a tip. so ask for money back.
I'm from India and i have used all kinds of boner pills, foreign and Indian, though, generic brands may never comes close to the original one. It works and does the job.
This may be for everyone, here in India, i get one Cialis 50 mg for 40 PHP ( 1 PHP=1 INR). and it works wonders. Do not use viagra, kamagra, giagra or anything with content sidanafil citrate use only Cialis or its content Tadalafill. There are many generic brands from India that does well, they comes in a pack of four tablets, and it cost 150 PHP. now add, shipping cost, drug pusher cost, profit etc, it should not be more than 300 PHP, but since it is PH and high cost of living....You should never pay more than 400-500 PHP for any boner tablets anywhere in ASIA.
Some folks pay 1500 PHP, thats insane. I was thinking of starting my own business in selling boner pills on half that price and still make profit, but was too attention deficit on pussy to do it :). I may well start it for just good times sake for the benefit of mongers :)
PH is the only place i think where you do not have to worry about letting go of the girl. They are more smarter and a great great Short time material. You don't have to worry about good byes here. The women are more stronger mentally. Just chill, she enjoyed the stay with you as much as you did. NO hard feelings as she dressed before the cuddle and emotional good byes. This is the best place to get laid again and again and not worry about what she or her friends will think. It does not even happen even in Thailand. Its a win win situation here.
Forget about the connection, even if you had, you were only going to break her heart after few days, when you had enough of her and wanna try other.
You had the best time, You can make the girl as you want. Just send the right vibe. Anyway, Manila is not the best place for short term visit, i stay here 'cos i go out with regular girls which is the best place to do.
if you are on short visit go to Cebu, much better or else to Angeles city, but thats too professional place. Cebu is much cool for an overall experience. Avoid manila for short term visits. Good Luck
I was in Robinsons Malate a couple of weeks ago to go get some tarpaulin rings of all things..
While I standing in the atrium gazing into the distance trying to get my bearings as to which way to Ace's hardware this very tall 23 year old (Im jockey sized) walks up to me & asks me am I an American. I reflexively answered no & she replied 'thats good'.
Now, I have to tell you after living here 5 years Im pretty used to hookers, tranny's & school girls trying to hook up in Robinsons Malate but this conversation was out of left wing in the circumstances.. I guess they get you when you're off guard.
To cut a long story short, this apparently straight girl had been there to meet a guy from Cherry Blossoms web site who turned out to be 'arrogant' in her estimation.
His sin was he told her no chaperon & must go with him to his hotel. According to her It was her second such meet of an American in which she turned them down & walked away. Many of these girls hate lack of subtlety, they're asian after all...
On the spur of the moment & sensing pussy in the air I bought her lunch & listened to her story. Her mother dropped by from shopping but quickly departed. The girl asked me if she could come back to my hotel.. bugger me.. she just spent 30 mins saying how she hated yanks who told her that was the deal.. women, go figure huh?
I was'nt going to take her all the way back to my pad so I walked her over to City State hotel where I have a very good long standing relationship with the desk staff due to my many dalliances there.
She spent the night with me & we shagged many times sans latex, oops..
In the morning I casually asked if she was on the pill - her answer floored me 'no.. dont you want to make a baby?' She has since had a period thank god..
She rather liked to climb on top & frig herself with my cock until she was ready to pop then she would impale herself & ride me hard. Nice.
Allegedly only one younger pinoy boy friend in the past & had'nt had a root in over a year. Who know's what is the truth with these girls?
She was in raptures when I DATY'd her. According to her, pinoy guy just climbed on, did his thing & withdrew before blowing then sleeping.
She says she has never had DATY before & never been with a foreigner.
All these girls say they have never had DATY before but they all push your head down there.. hmmm... thinks... eyes cross.. no conclusion... insufficient data...
First time I went down for a lick of her clit imagine my surprise & delight to find a totally shaven pussy! I was instantly suspicious that I had a P4P'er on my hands masquerading as a straight girl. I talked to her about it, she claimed to have been doing it since puberty because she felt it was cleaner - no argument from me there. I did notice she used pads & feminine wash all the time even though she was not menstruating so probably this was true.
She has a perfect set of upturned conical 34b firm breasts & a nice flat tummy. I usually like tiny spinners but this amazon (by pinoy standards) was certainly worth the climb ;)
No money changed hands. I was'nt going to insult her. Did take over to Robinsons the next day & got her a modest new cell phone & some blouses which she accepted shyly.
Calls herslef 'Ysah', real name Maria Luisa.
Look for her on CB guys, handle with tact eh? ;)
Cheers
AV
Fast Eddie 48
03-30-10, 23:59
I was in Robinsons Malate a couple of weeks ago to go get some tarpaulin rings of all things.
While I standing in the atrium gazing into the distance trying to get my bearings as to which way to Ace's hardware this very tall 23 year old (I'm jockey sized) walks up to me & asks me am I an American.
I reflexively answered no & she replied 'thats good'.To Amavida,
I was at Robinson place few week ago too no one pick me up, you are a lucky man to find a tall flipper like this and also a freebie too, do you have contact for her.
Fast Eddie 48
To Amavida,
I was at Robinson place few week ago too no one pick me up, you are a lucky man to find a tall flipper like this and also a freebie too, do you have contact for her.
Fast Eddie 48Sorry mate, when I break it off with them I delete the cp number & often ditch the sim card as well.
If you want to go sloppy seconds look for her on Cherry Blossoms, Facebook, Friendster. There's a million like her, dont waste too much time looking.
In regards to 'mall hunting' as some call it, the secret is to get out & about with some purpose, often you will be delighted to meet willing girls off the cuff all over the place. Going to malls for no other purpose than finding a girl to root is often hit & miss.
If you're go to Harrison plaza & stand around upstairs where all the cell phone stalls are you will quickly be approached by a male pimp. Quick way to get a girl but I dont care for street pro's hawked by trike drivers if you get my drift..
If you go outside Harrison plaza opposite the central bank of Phils you almost always find a couple of pretty & sexily dressed girls standing literally on the road where the jeeps stop. They are open for business.
After 5 years here I dont look for girls, they find me.
Several days ago I walked into a western union office to send a small gift to my neice back home in Oz. The girl behind the counter was young (19) & pretty, really pretty, but I paid her no particular heed as the country is full of lovely girls & I was busy.
When I completed the transaction she flashed a big warm 1000 watt smile & wished me advance happy birthday.. lots of eye contact.. and then told me in that chirpy smiley seductive way, that only a woman can, that it was her birthday that date also. I was preoccupied with business on my cp but I got the hint & asked her if she would like to celebrate it with me.
We had dinner & spent the rest of the night shagging. If you're relaxed, happy & not in a hurry its surprising how quickly these girls drop their pants..
Cheers AV
GoodEnough
03-31-10, 23:39
I think AV has rather eloquently summarized the major difference between living here and visiting for a short time. Residents have the great luxury of time...of being able to take things easy, and thus being open to the unpredictable chance encounter with no feelings of urgency, whereas guys on vacation need to focus on achieving their objectives within a concentrated time span.
GE
Sorry mate, when I break it off with them I delete the cp number & often ditch the sim card as well.
AV
Interesting point that AV makes about deleting the number of gals he is finished with.
I used to do that until I got fed up getting those 'Hi, kumusta' textss out of the blue where the number that flashes up on my screen is totally unfamiliar to me. To which I normally reply, in all politeness, 'who is this please?' Then after three or four more texts back and forth (eg, 'u dont remember me, Im sad...'), we establish that she is so and so who I went out with (twice), three months ago.
Now I keep all the numbers and just edit the name in my phone book with a note like ('done') or a date, so when I get that text out of the blue, I at least immediately know who it is.
Of course an occasional purge of numbers is necessary if you're a long time resident, or perhaps a personal policy of just immediately deleting all texts without reply from numbers you don't recognize--but I am still in 'keep all numbers' mode.
Manta Ray
FreebieFan
04-01-10, 01:22
Interesting point that AV makes about deleting the number of gals he is finished with.
I used to do that until I got fed up getting those 'Hi, kumusta' textss out of the blue where the number that flashes up on my screen is totally unfamiliar to me. To which I normally reply, in all politeness, 'who is this please?' Then after three or four more texts back and forth (eg, 'u dont remember me, Im sad...'), we establish that she is so and so who I went out with (twice), three months ago.
Now I keep all the numbers and just edit the name in my phone book with a note like ('done') or a date, so when I get that text out of the blue, I at least immediately know who it is.
Of course an occasional purge of numbers is necessary if you're a long time resident, or perhaps a personal policy of just immediately deleting all texts without reply from numbers you don't recognize--but I am still in 'keep all numbers' mode.
Manta RayI also keep all mine. However I find its gettting harder to remember which particular Lhen or Vangie or Rose I dated. Now I have to add a Lhen Boobs, or a Vangie Anal or Rose "naked in car" detail to ensure I can correctly place them.
My forthcoming trip has a Jeny, a Jenny P and a Jenny the on the agenda. Potential for sending a wrong sms is high! Luckily it also has a Belle, Rosemae, and two Joys'!
Interesting point that AV makes about deleting the number of gals he is finished with.
I used to do that until I got fed up getting those 'Hi, kumusta' textss out of the blue where the number that flashes up on my screen is totally unfamiliar to me. To which I normally reply, in all politeness, 'who is this please?' Then after three or four more texts back and forth (eg, 'u dont remember me, Im sad...'), we establish that she is so and so who I went out with (twice), three months ago.
Now I keep all the numbers and just edit the name in my phone book with a note like ('done') or a date, so when I get that text out of the blue, I at least immediately know who it is.
Of course an occasional purge of numbers is necessary if you're a long time resident, or perhaps a personal policy of just immediately deleting all texts without reply from numbers you don't recognize--but I am still in 'keep all numbers' mode.
Manta RayGood system MR, in fact I used to be quite the little obsessive compulsive, had my google contacts list fleshed out with a pic & details of every girl etc etc which I could access via my cp 3g connection anytime, anywhere but long term I got sick of it. Too much time spent keeping records & managing the burgeoning collection of pics. Its started to feel like work not fun.
I too tire of the cat & mouse 'dont you remember me' txt's/emails.
I also got tired of new conquests clawing at my iphone.
I swapped it for a 'Myphone' dual sim unit which was affordable to lose & attracted much less attention from all & sundry.
I have my 'keep' sim & my 'disposable' sim in it. Most girls go in the disposable sim which i literally throw away & replace frequently. At some point 95% of girls try to turn 'fun' into serious commitment which is where i terminate things & dont want to waste load on interminable replies.
My way suits me.
Cheers!
AV
Dear All,
I am planning to visit Manila and planning to stay at Heritage Hotel, I was away from MANILA FOR MORE THAN 5 YEARS NOW and believed there is a lot of changes by now. ok, lets start with few questions and hope for your quick advises;
1) I Heritage a guest or girl friendly hotel? or is there any other hotel nearby that is girl frinedly and near the mongering spot and at teh same time not far from Domestic airport too ( I will go to masbate as well after Manila)
2) I have been to L.A. cafe before and hook up some talent overthere, how is the on going rate (ST / LT) right now?
3) any other place to hook some freelancer for LT, please advise.
4) Have been to Harizzon plaza before and have some girls for ST, how is teh rate at this time.
5) I rememebr way back before that my friend bring me to some beerhouses where in there is ago-go dancer and have some girls come to your table and chat with you and even can arrange some night out, is there any places like this anymore?
6) How about hooking up with colleage girls?
Sorry for feeding so much questions as I will only be staying for few nights and heading to pALAWAN SOO. SO WILL APPRECIATE FOR ALL INFORMATIONS YOU GIVEN TO ME.
CHEERS,
MD
FreebieFan
04-01-10, 09:36
2) I have been to L.A. cafe before and hook up some talent overthere, how is the on going rate (ST / LT) right now?
3) any other place to hook some freelancer for LT, please advise.
4) Have been to Harizzon plaza before and have some girls for ST, how is teh rate at this time.
6) How about hooking up with colleage girls?
MDAll the details you require are here in the forum for your viewing pleasure.
........
Now I keep all the numbers and just edit the name in my phone book with a note like ('done') or a date, so when I get that text out of the blue, I at least immediately know who it is.
Of course an occasional purge of numbers is necessary if you're a long time resident, or perhaps a personal policy of just immediately deleting all texts without reply from numbers you don't recognize--but I am still in 'keep all numbers' mode.
Manta RayManta I have just graduated out of your "keep all numbers" mode after doing exactly what you are doing in updating the list.
Now I just delete numbers I don't recognise. I reckon that is a consequence of living here permanently and needing to keep a list "fresh", but I can see where you are coming from and if it works for you then stick with it.
Dear All,
I am planning to visit Manila and planning to stay at Heritage Hotel, I was away from MANILA FOR MORE THAN 5 YEARS NOW and believed there is a lot of changes by now. Ok, lets start with few questions and hope for your quick advises;
1) I Heritage a guest or girl friendly hotel? Or is there any other hotel nearby that is girl frinedly and near the mongering spot and at the same time not far from Domestic airport too (I will go to masbate as well after Manila)
2) I have been to L. A. Cafe before and hook up some talent overthere, how is the on going rate (ST / LT) right now?
3) any other place to hook some freelancer for LT, please advise.
4) Have been to Harizzon plaza before and have some girls for ST, how is the rate at this time.
5) I rememebr way back before that my friend bring me to some beerhouses where in there is ago-go dancer and have some girls come to your table and chat with you and even can arrange some night out, is there any places like this anymore?
6) How about hooking up with colleage girls?
Sorry for feeding so much questions as I will only be staying for few nights and heading to pALAWAN SOO. SO WILL APPRECIATE FOR ALL INFORMATIONS YOU GIVEN TO ME.
CHEERS,
MDYou need to do a bit of homework MD.
All the answers are here in the last month of posts. Your questions are way too broad for me to even start addressing and I reckon you should look through earlier posts.
Puerto La Cruz
04-01-10, 11:34
Dear All,
I am planning to visit Manila and planning to stay at Heritage Hotel, I was away from MANILA FOR MORE THAN 5 YEARS NOW and believed there is a lot of changes by now. Ok, lets start with few questions and hope for your quick advises;
1) I Heritage a guest or girl friendly hotel? Or is there any other hotel nearby that is girl frinedly and near the mongering spot and at the same time not far from Domestic airport too (I will go to masbate as well after Manila)
2) I have been to L. A. Cafe before and hook up some talent overthere, how is the on going rate (ST / LT) right now?
3) Any other place to hook some freelancer for LT, please advise.
4) Have been to Harizzon plaza before and have some girls for ST, how is the rate at this time.
5) I rememebr way back before that my friend bring me to some beerhouses where in there is ago-go dancer and have some girls come to your table and chat with you and even can arrange some night out, is there any places like this anymore?
6) How about hooking up with colleage girls?
Sorry for feeding so much questions as I will only be staying for few nights and heading to pALAWAN SOO. SO WILL APPRECIATE FOR ALL INFORMATIONS YOU GIVEN TO ME.
CHEERS,
MD1. Yes
2. 1, 000 to 1, 500 php
3. Right across the street from Heritage is the EDSA entertainment complex.
You will find hundreds of girls there
4. I wouldn't waste my time trolling the malls when you have the EDSA
Complex across the street and other daytime availability at LA Cafe
5. EDSA complex
6. Why troll for college girls when EDSA complex is right across the street?
Walk out the front door of Heritage and the pedestrian foot bridge is a hundred yards away. Cross the street at the footbridge and go directly to the EDSA complex. You will think you died and went to heaven.
On my first trip to the Philippines it was a nightmare using the cell phones to talk to the girls. I never texted before in the US, I just call the person, make my point and be done with it. It would take forever to type in a simple response to the girl.
For example in the time it took me to type " Angel, the taxi driver is trying to find your house now, please wait for me"
While I was typing that one sentence to her, I would receive about 10 texts from her that would read something like this:
how are you
are you coming now
how come you are not here
are you mad at me
please respond
why u not come
U Liar Boy
I go to sleep now
ect, ect, until I would finally just give up on the text and call the girls number and hand the phone to the driver to get the directions to her house directly.
I found it was just easier to call the girl directly and speak for a minute or two, Plus the girls rarely get phone calls, so it is kind of special that someone is spending the money to hear their voice.
I have now been using my iphone for texting and chatting on yahoo, while I am at home.So I am can text fairly quick using the ipone keyboard screen.But I am concerned about taking the phone to the Philippines, I am would be very nervous holding a gadget in my hand that is worth close to a Pinoys yearly pay.
Ghost Pirate
04-01-10, 23:19
On my last visit to the PI (March 2009) I spent most of my time in Manila, I noticed quite a few wealthy locals using the iPhone. I was using my unlocked iPhone with a Globe sim. Globe was offering the iPhone for sale at the time.
I think you will be just fine using the iPhone.
GoodEnough
04-01-10, 23:33
It's always wise to be prudent, but I wouldn't worry too much. I've got an iPhone and a BlackBerry and I carry one or the other wherever I am. Just be aware of your surroundings and don't walk down the street while texting on it. Lock it up if you know you're not going to be alone in your room.
GE
If you haven't been at Heritage Hotel for 5 yrs., be prepared for the price change!! Last I checked it was well over $100USD per night. Might be better off in the "cheap" Malate area of Palm Plaza hotel chain. Then you can just walk to LA Cafe, Robinson's mall, etc. Not too many places to walk to from Heritage hotel. Just a thought. Enjoy.
GoodEnough
04-02-10, 07:53
If you haven't been at Heritage Hotel for 5 yrs., be prepared for the price change!! Last I checked it was well over $100USD per night. Might be better off in the "cheap" Malate area of Palm Plaza hotel chain. Then you can just walk to LA Cafe, Robinson's mall, etc. Not too many places to walk to from Heritage hotel. Just a thought. Enjoy.
I've stayed at the Heritage a few times, and I have never liked the place. I always felt it was somewhat seedy and overpriced, and the service was just mediocre. Of course, you can walk across the street to EDSA Entertainment Complex, but that's not much of an inducement for me. All told, I suggest you find somewhere that's a bit more convivial.
GE
I've stayed at the Heritage a few times, and I have never liked the place. I always felt it was somewhat seedy and overpriced, and the service was just mediocre. Of course, you can walk across the street to EDSA Entertainment Complex, but that's not much of an inducement for me. All told, I suggest you find somewhere that's a bit more convivial.
GE
Many thanks for all brother extending helping hand to me!
As it's been a long while have not visited Manila so I am sure everything has changed a lot, aside from Heritage, what other options, fyi, I am on a business trip so I hope to find some hotel to be a bit respectable to my clinets and at teh same time accessible to the mongering area and the hotel has to be girl friendly for my after work relaxation.
Just for confirmations, is the price rate for st is 1000 php? and the price rate for LT is 1500php? I hope that I can taste those lovely filipinas that is very "carinosa" as everyone is saying. hope this will be equally pleassure to me as compare to my trip to Bangkon.
Cheers,
MD
I've stayed at the Heritage a few times, and I have never liked the place. I always felt it was somewhat seedy and overpriced, and the service was just mediocre. Of course, you can walk across the street to EDSA Entertainment Complex, but that's not much of an inducement for me. All told, I suggest you find somewhere that's a bit more convivial.GE
I always used the Heritage before when I was transiting through Manila because it is near EDSA IEC and close to the airport, but the price is now way too high for the facility and service. I agree that any of Pan Pacific, Hyatt, Executive Plaza are better now because of the range of additional bars around that area, and it is still easy to get to the airport along Roxas Blvd. it is also only a 50 - 100 php taxi ride to EDSA if you wish to go there.
Wicked Roger
04-02-10, 13:02
It's always wise to be prudent, but I wouldn't worry too much. I've got an iPhone and a BlackBerry and I carry one or the other wherever I am. Just be aware of your surroundings and don't walk down the street while texting on it. Lock it up if you know you're not going to be alone in your room.
GE
Good advice GE. I tend to put my BB and mobiles in a simple plastic bag, a trick I learnt from a mate in Brazil 20+ years ago. His executive briefcase was a supermarket bag as Rio was a muggers magnet and he was never hassled.
Maybe also that I am very tall, big etc so maybe they like to pick on small guys....:D
But never text and walk at same time, that is asking for potential attention. I can multi task but save that for more important matters ;)
On my first trip to the Philippines it was a nightmare using the cell phones to talk to the girls. I never texted before in the US, I just call the person, make my point and be done with it. It would take forever to type in a simple response to the girl.
For example in the time it took me to type " Angel, the taxi driver is trying to find your house now, please wait for me"
While I was typing that one sentence to her, I would receive about 10 texts from her that would read something like this:
how are you
are you coming now
how come you are not here
are you mad at me
please respond
why u not come
U Liar Boy
I go to sleep now
ect, ect, until I would finally just give up on the text and call the girls number and hand the phone to the driver to get the directions to her house directly.
I found it was just easier to call the girl directly and speak for a minute or two, Plus the girls rarely get phone calls, so it is kind of special that someone is spending the money to hear their voice.
I have now been using my iphone for texting and chatting on yahoo, while I am at home.So I am can text fairly quick using the ipone keyboard screen.But I am concerned about taking the phone to the Philippines, I am would be very nervous holding a gadget in my hand that is worth close to a Pinoys yearly pay.You learn to be very terse in your txting. Its the only way. Long txt's are simply not understood because the girls have a shallow understanding of written english & are txt'ing 5 other cousins/friends simultaneously in any event. Also as you discovered long responses are too slow to keep up with the rapid fire responses from these attention deficit txt maniacs.
Filipino's are neither logical nor organised. Txt'ing street names/prominent land marks gets vague non answer replies. Yes I agree often its better to give up & get another filipino to talk to them unless you are fairly fluent in the language.
_DO_NOT_ take your expensive cell phone out of your pocket on the street or crowded public places. Snatchers are a real & constant threat.
Keep a low profile. You are being watched wherever you go. Not just by crims. Filipinos are massive gossips (men as well as women) & they dont let facts get in the way of a good story. Being naughty in a part of town where you are known is bound to get back to ears you wish had'nt heard.
AV
Orlando Man
04-07-10, 01:48
Hello Gentlemen,
I was hoping that someone would be able to answer a few basic questions for me. I'm currently planning my very first trip to Asia in September. I've traveled extensively throughout Central and South America (Medellin is my favorite), but have never taken the long trip to the Orient. I plan on being there for two and half weeks in total. The first week and a half, and the primary reason for going, is to visit a girlfiend in Hong Kong. Most of my time there will be with her (although I might slip away for a day!). I will then have seven days to visit a second destination. I would like to visit either Thailand or the Phillipines. I've also heard great things about both. Given my limited time, the fact that I will be travelling alone, and that have never been to Asia, which one would you recommend? I've been digging through the material on the forum for both countries, but there are hundreds of pages and it is hard to get an concise version.
I've been looking at airfares from Hong Kong to either Manilla or Bangkok and both are very cheap. However, it appears that Bangkok hotels are cheaper. Which country is the best value for girls? I prefer overnight long term dates to short sessions. I also prefer more of a girlfriend experience to quickies. If I visit Thailand, would you recommend a few days in Bangkok and then the rest at Pattaya? The Penthouse Hotel which is advertised on the banner of the ISG looks like it would be a good option for a newbie and they offer airport pickup. Do you recommend it? Is there a inexpensive hotel (around $50-$75) in Bangkok which is girl friendly that you would recommend?
If I visit the Philippines instead, should I stick to Manilla or try to make it to Angeles City? It seems from the posts that I've read, it is difficult to get to Angeles City. Is there a recommended cheaper hotel for the stay in Manilla.
Thank you for any assistance that anyone can provide. One final question would be which country has more touristy things to do during the day. Thanks again.
Steve
I have been to both Thailand and P.I. more than 20 times. Others will offer their opinion, here is mine: More tourist things to do (exotic culture/history) is Thailand. Raw, commercialized, unhibited, pure sex for $$$ - Thailand.
For the girlfriend experience - P.I. English is spoken by all, very friendly, easier to score with non-working girls. Just stay in Manila, read the forum. Makati or Malate, it doesn't matter much for first time. But do make it to LA Cafe and EDSA.
GoodEnough
04-07-10, 09:50
Orlando Man, this topic has been debated endlessly and the debate will continue I'm sure. For me, the choice should depend on your primary reasons for coming.
If an interesting culture, great food, and endless commercial sex are your primary motivators then Thailand wins hands down. (Of course the current political turmoil and the street protests in Bangkok may be a deterrent here, as it appears they're getting worse and paralyzing ever more of the city.)
On the other hand, if you're looking for true GFE or a great semblance thereof, even with commercial sex workers, and you're not too picky about food, and being able to communicate in at least rudimentary English is important, then the Philippines should attract your money. The local food sucks, the physical infrastructure is strictly third world and the culture isn't terribly interesting, but the people are for the most part kind, welcome foreigners and are, in general, more friendly to strangers than the Thais.
There are lots of less expensive hotels in Manila and they've been written about extensively here. I suggest you search the hotel thread and pick one that's in a suitable area for you.
GE
At last I have a report that you might find interesting. It's taken a few days to right it up part travel schedule and part disbelief with what happened. It's a long report; I hope you enjoy the detail from a beginner.
So I finally make it back to Manila last Friday, have dinner with the sweet local family of a friend, delivering some goodies and then I'm free for the evening. Earlier I had sent a text to a DIA contact who seemed keen to meet last time. But I never could arrange the time.
She lives nearby in Makati, is about a 7 in her photo. Let's call her Ms A.
A is a masseuse and I later find out studying to get a visa to be with her boyfriend in Europe, I later find out.
Ms A turns up with not one but TWO friends in tow. I am more accepting than most about bringing a friend but feeding 3 is too much. I bite my tongue and buy drinks for all 3. Ms A orders and expensive cocktail. Be and see order fruit juice.
Ms be is the cutest spinner with lovely hair and a bright personality – just what I like. Ms see has a nice spinner body, friendly and talkative enough but not so pretty.
We have our drinks; A becomes less and less friendly, while I'm enjoying the chat with be and C.
We finish our drinks and I'm planning to head out to see LA café for the first time when they sort of stall at the hotel lobby. Taking a hint from more experienced posters here, I suggest they come upstairs to "watch a movie". What follows is TV, some simple room service (they hadn't been fed) and all of us on the bed. Someone mentions massage and insist it's my turn first. There is no resistance and A (the masseuse) gets my shirt off, and pants half down. I'm face down while others get lotion from the bathroom and a 20 minute professional massage follows.
A insists I leave my shirt off as I have a nice body (I don't)
Next thing I know is that A is cuddling me in the middle of the bed, be and see on the outside. A complains that guys on line just want to see her boobs, but then proceeds to show me how nice her nipples are. We start kissing and I enjoy sucking on her big nipples while she rubs my cock through jeans.
A takes charge: orders the lights off, the girls to take their tops off and from the bottom of the bed pulls off my pants. She starts giving me a hand job, gets be and see to take turns kissing me, offering me their tits and giving me a hand job. A then offers to make me come, I say I want to be inside her, she says she has her period but offers one of her friends.
Now, as excited as I am, I am outnumbered and don't know what ambush awaits me. Terror and horniness is a new high for me.
So I say that be is my preferred fuck, or both? But see gets naked down to her underpants. I tell be I want her and she leaves her business card for me.
A explains that she and be have to go "to work on the internet" which I interpret as cam girls. But she explains that she will leave see for me for the night.
A and be leave – no money expected.
C's only request is for a condom – good idea. What follows is some ordinary sex, inadequate blow job and no anal, but the sweet thing is trying hard so no complaints. This repeated before breakfast. A little shopping for me and a cheap swimsuit for her and we use the hotel pool. All the time she can't keep her hands off me. One more session back in the room and I am off to the airport.
She asked for some taxi money is a very gentle way. I give her 2000 which is much more than she deserves but I was so thrilled with the entire experience.
I contact be and see later. Both are a bit stunned at what happened and said it was a first. I tend to believe them, see especially.
There you have it, my first report – straight from mono to foursome (well sort of!) Who Said "only in the Philippines!)
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Gogobarlover
04-07-10, 11:30
Thailand vs. Philippines
I would agree also. Thailand hands down. I been to both countries myself and in my experience, I feel as a single guy, you should hit Thailand first. Here’s my thoughts on the differences of Thailand vs. Philippines. I feel your overall experience in Thailand will be better than in Philippines.
Thailand
*Sight Seeing - More things to see and do in Thailand. They have magnificent Shrines, Temples, Statues, Palaces.
*Hotels - More hotels to choose from in Bangkok city. I would recommend the Nana Hotel or Majestic Suites near Sukhumvit Road for your budget. Both are girl friendly hotels and close to the Nana BTS Station. Also, you’re just walking distance to Nana Plaza which is 1 of Bangkoks Red Light Districts.
*Transportation - The BTS SkyTrain makes traveling soo much easier. You get an overhead view of Bangkok City while riding the Skytrain. No need to worry of a taxi driver ripping you off.
*Safety - I feel Thailand is safer especially for a single guy. If you stay near Sukhumvit Road in Bangkok, it is easy to get around and not get lost. The Skytrain is in the middle of Sukhumvit Road. I wasn’t alone when I first went to Thailand but, I would go to the malls and roam the streets at night by myself. Manila has a lot of corrupt taxi drivers and beggars. You see beggars in Thailand also but, I notice they aren’t as pushy. Philippines is poorer and poverty is worse than Thailand.
*Sex - Far more to offer in Thailand then Philippines. That’s why it’s called the sex capital of the world.
They have Gogo Bars, Pub bars, Soapy Massages, Street Walkers or Freelancers as they call them.
*Food - I would say the cuisine in Thailand is better than Philippines. Philippines they have a lot of greasy oily fatty foods. A lot more variety of different restaurants in Thailand to cater to all types of foreigners.
*Shopping - Philippines does have large malls like Mall of Asia, SM and Ayala but, I if your looking for things like souvenirs and cheap items, I would say Thailand is better. You can find a lot of those outside market places that sell bags, clothing, belts, knives, flashlights, hats, bootleg movies. Forget shopping at the big malls. Just go there to eat and look at the chicks! Hehe
Philippines
*Language - More people speak and understand English better in the Philippines vs. Thailand
*Girls - Thailand may offer a lot of bars and soapy massages but, you can meet a lot of regular girls outside of the bars. You can easily just communicate with a pinay girl from online and she is willing to meet you. Or, just hang out at the malls. On top of that, most of the Pinay girls are more down to earth than Thai girls. You will definitely experience a GFE in Philippines vs. Thailand.
*People - I would say the overall people is friendlier. Filipinos/Filipinas are fun loving and down to earth.
*Cost - The overall cost for most things in Philippines I’d say is cheaper. The American $1 is strong in the Philippines compared to Thailand. $1 = to 45-46 Philippines pesos average. $1 = to 32-33 Thai Bahts average in Thailand.
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Silverwings
04-07-10, 15:17
Good evening gents,
First time here for business purpose and staying in Oakwood Hotel (17 ADB Avenue Ortigas Center, Pasig, Metro Manila). I decide to release now but seems no idea actually. Can you recommend where I can get to for a ST/LT?
Thanks in advance.
On the other hand, if you're looking for true GFE or a great semblance thereof, even with commercial sex workers, and you're not too picky about food, and being able to communicate in at least rudimentary English is important, then the Philippines should attract your money. The local food sucks, the physical infrastructure is strictly third world and the culture isn't terribly interesting, but the people are for the most part kind, welcome foreigners and are, in general, more friendly to strangers than the Thais.
GE
Fast Eddie 48
04-07-10, 16:42
Hello Gentlemen,
I was hoping that someone would be able to answer a few basic questions for me. I'm currently planning my very first trip to Asia in September. I've traveled extensively throughout Central and South America (Medellin is my favorite), but have never taken the long trip to the Orient. I plan on being there for two and half weeks in total. The first week and a half, and the primary reason for going, is to visit a girlfiend in Hong Kong. Most of my time there will be with her (although I might slip away for a day!). I will then have seven days to visit a second destination. I would like to visit either Thailand or the Phillipines. I've also heard great things about both. Given my limited time, the fact that I will be travelling alone, and that have never been to Asia, which one would you recommend? I've been digging through the material on the forum for both countries, but there are hundreds of pages and it is hard to get an concise version.
I've been looking at airfares from Hong Kong to either Manilla or Bangkok and both are very cheap. However, it appears that Bangkok hotels are cheaper. Which country is the best value for girls? I prefer overnight long term dates to short sessions. I also prefer more of a girlfriend experience to quickies. If I visit Thailand, would you recommend a few days in Bangkok and then the rest at Pattaya? The Penthouse Hotel which is advertised on the banner of the ISG looks like it would be a good option for a newbie and they offer airport pickup. Do you recommend it? Is there a inexpensive hotel (around $50-$75) in Bangkok which is girl friendly that you would recommend?
If I visit the Philippines instead, should I stick to Manilla or try to make it to Angeles City? It seems from the posts that I've read, it is difficult to get to Angeles City. Is there a recommended cheaper hotel for the stay in Manilla.
Thank you for any assistance that anyone can provide. One final question would be which country has more touristy things to do during the day. Thanks again.
SteveOrlando,
I like Thailand better than PI yes it is more expensive for mongering, but there is more thing to do and see in Thailand and the food is much better. I think you should visit Thailand first if you have time visit both country and judge yourself, everyone have different taste and liking yes Manila hotel is expensive there are many 3 star in Manila and bangkok under 50 USD.
Fast Eddie 48
Good evening gents,
First time here for business purpose and staying in Oakwood Hotel (17 ADB Avenue Ortigas Center, Pasig, Metro Manila). I decide to release now but seems no idea actually. Can you recommend where I can get to for a ST/LT?
Thanks in advance.
You joined Oct 8 2009 and this is your first post? Please all you have to do is read the forum. Search EDSA, as there has been so many reports lately.
Robb
Wanted to let everyone know about the Greenhills mall. Can't give you directions to where it is exactly. But both times I went there the cab driver knew it by name.
Greenhills is different from all of the normal type of malls in that they only sell fake name brand merchandise for very low prices. The place is a total zoo because the whole thing is set up in stalls like a flea market. They have unbelievably good replicas, everything from wathces to all types of clothes. They have an entire floor dedicated entirely to electronics. I bought all of the latest movies there on dvd for around $4. I noticed 10-20 booths that sold nothing but cell phones and accesories. Etc.
They only have the "flea market" around 5 days per week. I can't remember the days exactly but it is definitely worth the trip. I think this is very comparable to some of the great places they have in Hon Kong.
Hello Gentlemen,
I was hoping that someone would be able to answer a few basic questions for me. I'm currently planning my very first trip to Asia in September. I've traveled extensively throughout Central and South America (Medellin is my favorite), but have never taken the long trip to the Orient. I plan on being there for two and half weeks in total. The first week and a half, and the primary reason for going, is to visit a girlfiend in Hong Kong. Most of my time there will be with her (although I might slip away for a day!). I will then have seven days to visit a second destination. I would like to visit either Thailand or the Phillipines. I've also heard great things about both. Given my limited time, the fact that I will be travelling alone, and that have never been to Asia, which one would you recommend? I've been digging through the material on the forum for both countries, but there are hundreds of pages and it is hard to get an concise version.
I've been looking at airfares from Hong Kong to either Manilla or Bangkok and both are very cheap. However, it appears that Bangkok hotels are cheaper. Which country is the best value for girls? I prefer overnight long term dates to short sessions. I also prefer more of a girlfriend experience to quickies. If I visit Thailand, would you recommend a few days in Bangkok and then the rest at Pattaya? The Penthouse Hotel which is advertised on the banner of the ISG looks like it would be a good option for a newbie and they offer airport pickup. Do you recommend it? Is there a inexpensive hotel (around $50-$75) in Bangkok which is girl friendly that you would recommend?
If I visit the Philippines instead, should I stick to Manilla or try to make it to Angeles City? It seems from the posts that I've read, it is difficult to get to Angeles City. Is there a recommended cheaper hotel for the stay in Manilla.
Thank you for any assistance that anyone can provide. One final question would be which country has more touristy things to do during the day. Thanks again.
Steve
Here is my contribution as a very experienced visitor to Thailand over many years and a reasonbably experienced visitor to the Philippines over the last 5 years.
In terms of value and quality of hotels in relation to cost, my own experiences would rate thailand ahead of the Philippines in terms of quality, service, cleanliness and facilities. There are some superb hotels in the Philippines but on the whole I have found them to be more expensive and less attractive than Thailand.
The Thailand infrastructure is light years better in terms of transport and if you wish to travel around within Manila or Bangkok or further afield then Thailand is a clear winner.
Thailand wins hands down in terms of cultural, religious and historical sites to visit, places of interest to go and general pastimes. However I think once you have visited one temple, they are all pretty much of the same thing, but maybe I am just a Philistine.
I would normally compare the Thai Baht and the Philippine Peso fairly equitable in terms of their spending power for P4P, so for example 2000 pesos in the Philippines will buy you the equivalent of 2000 baht in Thailand for the same or similar deal. The big difference for me is that in my country I can get around 70 pesos to the UK pound but only 49 baht for that same pound. So the exchange rate makes the Philippines a far more attractive proposition in terms of "bangs for bucks" I would imagine a similar situation is evident with other currencies?
I think GFE can be had equally in both countries. The one defining difference is language. If you go off the beaten track in Thailand most people will not speak English, if you do the same in the Philippines most people will have at least a basic understanding of English. So to have a true GFE in Thailand with non pros it does help to have at least a basic understanding of Thai which I assume you do not have.
If you are aiming to go to Thailand or the Philippines and rely on pros or semi pros from bars to keep you occupied, in my opinion there is not a great deal to seperate the two cultures and countries, in the end the bottom line will always be your wallet. Since you have until September and your preference is for a long term GFE, then I suggest you start using the regular dating sites to cultivate and nurture potential candidates, trust me if you have a pulse and a wallet you will not be short of attention. Most girls will assume your wallet is ok if you have the means to travel to their country of residence.
I agree with the other guys who have replied to your post, the food in the Philippines generally sucks, unless you like a diet of deep fried or barbecued chicken and pork, heavily flavoured and salted sauces or fast food. Thai food is on the whole healthy, flavoursome and interesting.
In terms of safety I can honestly say that I have never ever felt threatened or concerned about my safety in Thailand and I have travelled extensively throughout the country. I must admit that in the Philippines I have often felt an undercurrent of danger when frequenting unfamiliar places late at night, mind you I have frequented some pretty unsavourary places. It may have been my imagination but I am a great believer in trusting in my instincts although I have never had a bad enough experience worthy of mention.
Despite what I have said, my heart lies in the Philippines. I think as a first time visitor to Asia, your needs would be better served in Thailand, but the Philippines is a jewel in the crown of Asia you should not miss. In my experience if P4P is your primary motive for travelling and there is absolutely no other reason to visit, then I would come down (marginally) in favour of the Philippines. However for most first time visitors to Asia it is not just the P4P, it is the whole cultural experience that is important. If you fall into this category then stick with Thailand
FreebieFan
04-08-10, 01:07
Had 3 ladies in 3 nights in BKK recently, 3 ladies in 3 nights in Jakarta therfater so assumed that 3 ladies in 3 nights in Manila would be a straighforward score. Which it was. But this trip contained some interesting "firsts" as follows.
The cast.
Ms R. A 20 yr old student I hads met on previous trip. Virgin. We had had a few kisses in my car but no more. She said half her friends were no longer virgins and she wanted to know more.
Ms J. A lady from Tagged who I wanted to meet as we had exchanged several ambiguous messages. 24
Ms B. A regular freebie friend of mine. Masseuse so thats free too.
Ms J. A lady from Palawan, 28 who had teased me many times on cam and who was in Manila for the weekend.
Ms K. A 21 year old aslo met thru Tagged, who is often in Havana.
Arrived and met the virgin in the nearby mall. Took her to my place. Wasnt sure what would happen as only had limited time. She saw me shower, then we spent a nice hour kissing and touching. As I said, limited time. Had some beers in Burgos, then met Ms B. Back to my place for beers and a lovely night in bed. Ms be recently turned 21 so we had cake. How sweet.
Next day, met the virgin in the afternoon. Went to Sogo. Got her panties off and gave her her first tongue-ing. She loved it. Nice body, small breasts, happy smile. Said next time we could pop it!
Then went home, for shower and out to meet Ms J. Saw her walking towards my car. She was gorgeous. Curvy, confidant and classy.
Went to Handlebar grill. Sat facing each other and as her dress was quite short, wasnt long before the hand was on the legs, and basically we spent next hour with my hand on her panties whilst we had beers.
Back in my car, we had long first kiss and her legs opened nicely. Drove home somehow. Wasnt concentrating on driving.
On arrival in my house, she sat on dining table, laid back and of course I sat on the dining chair and had my " meal". Later we were both sitting naked on the balcony. An evening humpin and grindin followed. I love uninhibited women like that!
Next day, did some work and was supposed to meet Ms S.
She was late. Hate late. She sent me many sms " please don't go, I have no money to go home etc. " She arrived and whilst she looked fine, she had a large shawl on. I asked why, and checked. She was pregnant. Not just pregnant but very pregnant. I have been with pregnant ladies before but today. No thanks. Gave her P200 to take taxi home.
Then called Ms K to come meet me. She arrived 30 mins later. Great body. Slim lithe and nice boobs. But missing two teeth she said she lost in a fight. Quite skanky really. Pity the poor guys that get her in Havana. Anyways I had a cheap dress to give her so she sat in my car. Nice little puss on display and nice boobs too. And we didn't leave the car park LOL.
Was supposed to meet a lady from High Heels who I know. She loves to dress up in tacky lingerie that I buy her and take pics of her in, but she was also an hour late. By that time Id gotten a blow in Burgos and on my way home.
Now whilst waiting for the High heels girl, Id exchanged sms with the virgin. Said it was a shame her mom wouldn't let her out at night. She said, now her Mom trusted me and maybe if I called her Mom next morning she would let her stay with me. Interesting!
So next morning I called Mrs Virgin and politely asked if daughter could sleep with me. She said yes. Thats a First time to do that!
Then I get txt from Ms Pregant that says she has a girl for me, who can stay with me, and will be guaranteed hot. I asked who. Girl said it was her sister. Pregant girl pimping her sister. Thats also a first. The next txt I get from her says shes in hospital in labour. About to deliver.
Anyways did work and faced choice. Virgin or Palawan girl. Decided to have Palawan girl in afternoon which was great fun. Went ot Eurotel Pasay road. Lots of dressing in tacky lingerie, lots of good hard sex. Girl looked great in clothes and lovely out of clothes too! Hope to see her again on one of my Asian business trips.
Then onto the virgin. Who tells me on arrival that her period just started. Damn and triple damn.
Girl is new to dating so her sisters, cousins and schoolmates are endelssly texting her asking what we are doing etc. This was intensely frustrating. I turned her phone off eventually LOL.
Back to my place and to bed. Girl was quite warmed up and gave me her first BJ, lots of practice needed. We saw some porn so she might improve on the technique. So then she practices a HJ and gets quite good, with a finger up my ass too.
And then, I realised she likes her ass touched too. Finger in also. And so for what was surely a strange event, I get to have her ass before I took her cherry. Another first!
Woke up to sweet virginal kisses and did some work and flew home.
Another interesting trip as always!
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Redfield10
04-08-10, 06:50
I greatly prefer Thailand over the Philippines.
I don't even think there is a comparison.
Hello Gentlemen,
I was hoping that someone would be able to answer a few basic questions for me. I'm currently planning my very first trip to Asia in September. I've traveled extensively throughout Central and South America (Medellin is my favorite), but have never taken the long trip to the Orient. I plan on being there for two and half weeks in total. The first week and a half, and the primary reason for going, is to visit a girlfiend in Hong Kong. Most of my time there will be with her (although I might slip away for a day!). I will then have seven days to visit a second destination. I would like to visit either Thailand or the Phillipines. I've also heard great things about both. Given my limited time, the fact that I will be travelling alone, and that have never been to Asia, which one would you recommend? I've been digging through the material on the forum for both countries, but there are hundreds of pages and it is hard to get an concise version.
I've been looking at airfares from Hong Kong to either Manilla or Bangkok and both are very cheap. However, it appears that Bangkok hotels are cheaper. Which country is the best value for girls? I prefer overnight long term dates to short sessions. I also prefer more of a girlfriend experience to quickies. If I visit Thailand, would you recommend a few days in Bangkok and then the rest at Pattaya? The Penthouse Hotel which is advertised on the banner of the ISG looks like it would be a good option for a newbie and they offer airport pickup. Do you recommend it? Is there a inexpensive hotel (around $50-$75) in Bangkok which is girl friendly that you would recommend?
If I visit the Philippines instead, should I stick to Manilla or try to make it to Angeles City? It seems from the posts that I've read, it is difficult to get to Angeles City. Is there a recommended cheaper hotel for the stay in Manilla.
Thank you for any assistance that anyone can provide. One final question would be which country has more touristy things to do during the day. Thanks again.
Steve
FreebieFan
04-08-10, 09:28
. They have an entire floor dedicated entirely to electronics. I bought all of the latest movies there on dvd for around $4. I noticed 10-20 booths that sold nothing but cell phones and accesories. Etc.
They only have the "flea market" around 5 days per week. I can't remember the days exactly but it is definitely worth the trip. I think this is very comparable to some of the great places they have in Hon Kong.Or for excellent DVD;s try Cinema square by end of Pasay road ( Arnaiz Ave)
I just bought 8 dvds with series ie 24 hours / Greys Anatomy etc, plus 10 other blu rays dvds. total P1000.
The place to go to there, is in front of entrance to antique store on lower ground floor. Nice staff, good prices but the best is that their dvds always work.
For an experienced tourist or expat, RP will be better. Thailand is by now heavily overpriced. It still has some advantages like better infrastructure in some terms.
However: You pay for it, e.g. Skytrain in MNL 25 peso, comparable distance in BKK 40 Baht (rp 51 cent US vs 1.30).
In terms of local airlines: RP is No. 1 my miles. Cant compare the 2.
Ocean: RP, Thailand mostly stinks or is overrun.
Backpackers: RP wins, not much fat white ladies in bras and shorts disturbing the view (UNLESSSSS you go to the mountain province, palawan and?)
Food: I think there is some misunderstanding in suggesting that Thailand is so great. First, many US visitors hardly make it to the food stalls. They stay in their US food ghettos and eat shit. Nicely packed, but shit. In RP they can do that without any problems and a bit cheaper than in Thailand. Those who frequent 'restaurants' catering to western customers wont find much difference other than that RP is way cheaper.
Thai food. True Thailand wins, if you manage to get it less spicy - i assume you dont like it too hot. Thailand has a vast pool of good food easily available and almost always clean. Well RP has nice beef and pork dishes at noon and you need to know if the place is clean. If you have your network of eateries you can do ok, but you will miss your noodle soup and stir fry veggies badly.
BUT: RP hits the punch line with its seafood. THere simply is nothing like it in Thailand below the US 100 mark. You can have excellent seafood in some places true, but you pay dearly. The rest is farm raised shrimp, fish etc. Banned from export to the EU for poisoning (chemicals, leads, hormons you name it). DOnt believe me? visit the farms north of Ayuthaya.
RP: Seafood central and CHEAP. So cheap, you cant eat it all and the quality is the BEST (!!!!!). I almost dropped all meat and stay on seafood 24/7 plus some veggies and the excellent fruits.
Hotels: Yes thailand is better but in the budget category RP is as cheap and sometimes cheaper. You dont have the guesthouse infrastructure like in Northern Thailand but I suspect nobody here is really too eager for those.
Language: RP allows you to eat what you by ordering what you like. Try that in Isaan. I m always surprised what my orders produce.
Alcohol: RP beats Thailand in round 1.
Cinema: Thailand has English language movies only in the major centers. Average price 4-5 US, i pay 1.30 same same thing.
Discriminatory pricing: I stopped keeping track of the ripping off of us by Thai National Parks. It is just outrageous. Seems the museums have started the same practice. Saw a 100 baht notice in one last month, but then was led in for free. No idea why. This is a standard practice. A Thai gf might provide some protection from it, but not always.
Xenophobia: Thais are basically racist and dislike anyone non-Thai, including Thai citizens of Khmer, Laotion, Burmese, Malay, Mon, Vietnamese, etc decent. Farangs fall in the same category. You cant overcome this unless you're very rich. Learning the culture/language is often seen as being subversive. A farang who knows too much is not good.
Getting killed: There is nothing like the Pattaya farang airshow. Each year dozens falling off their balconies leaving behind mourning and affluent Thai ladies. Foreigners' corpses get shipped out of the country in container loads. All suicides of course. In RP you might get mugged, shot, murdered, but the police is not too likely to be in on it. Or simply rubber stamp the killing as a suicide. RP seems to be more safe. Depends on the area, Angeles and Manila less secure than the dangerous places in Mindanao.
Temples, sightseeing, overland travel. RP has some good stuff but nothing to compare in quantity and concentration. But once you have done that it becomes redundant unless you are deeply into it. RP has cheap and comfortable accommodation, clean ocean, supply of fresh food, plus the extras like company.
So an experienced man with time on his hands will probably get a better deal in RP. A temple trip to Thailand takes 3-4 weeks (max.) and can easily be undertaken from Manila or Clarke.
I lived for years in Thailand, did my excursions upcountry, spent time in the provinces. Once you establish yourself in BKK or another place you become pretty fast local and dont move around so much. For that stage RP might be better.
Finally VISA: Thailand does its best to keep your stay short, RP does the opposite.
In sum, people without experience in Asia will do better in Thailand as it appears to be easier at first sight. More seasoned guys might prefer RP. I do.
Finally V
Member #4698
04-08-10, 17:14
The bottom line seems to be: you can have a real good time in either country, but PI is cheaper.
Pi ladies are attractive, very friendly and regular girls are there to bang!
Thailand has better food, more culture and very attractive girls, but non pros are difficult to hook up with.
PI is cheaper and less touristy, but poorer and less safe.
So do both!
FreebieFan
04-09-10, 00:36
The bottom line seems to be: you can have a real good time in either country, but PI is cheaper.
Pi ladies are attractive, very friendly and regular girls are there to bang!
Thailand has better food, more culture and very attractive girls, but non pros are difficult to hook up with.
PI is cheaper and less touristy, but poorer and less safe.
So do both!Whilst I agree with all your points raised above, it is incorrect to state that non pros are difficult to hook up with. I enjoy picking up non working girls, and have as much success with non working girls there as I do in Phils. Its all about having the right game, and right style. For sure, the direct approach that works well in Philippines is is not as useful in Thailand, but there are plenty to be had in Thailand. My most recent Thai trip yielded 3 in 3 days, as did the trip before.
Orlando Man
04-09-10, 03:45
Thank you to everyone for all of your wonderful information regarding my first trip to Asia and whether to choose to visit Thailand or the Philippines. I was quite impressed by the quality and quantity of feedback. Both locations seem to have their supporters and everyone made a very good case. However, after reading through the responses, the general consensus that I get is that for a first time trip, Thailand is the better choice. I do enjoy good Thai food and having tourist options during the day. Safety for a single traveler also seems to weigh on the side of Thailand. However, the fact that the Philippines seem to be better for long term relationships and that English is more widely spoken, means that I 'm looking forward to visiting there on a future trip.
Now that I have made up my mind for Thailand, I can start to finalize the details. I've decided to give myself eight nights in Thailand and cut my stay in Hong Kong by one day. This will allow me to spend four nights in Bangkok and four nights at Pattaya. I believe I will try the Penthouse Hotel in Pattaya since their website looks interesting. Their rates for basic rooms also seem very affordable and they advertise pickup from the Bangkok airport for only $42. I will be arriving on a late flight from Hong Kong and it will be nice to have pickup arranged. After my four nights I will have them return me to Bangkok and I will make reservations at either Majestic Suites or the Nana hotel which were recommended. Please let me know if this plan doesn't sound feasible or if you would make other recommendations.
Once again, thank you everyone for your assistance. I'm looking forward to a memorable first trip to Asia.
Steve
Wicked Roger
04-09-10, 08:23
ms j. saw her walking towards my car. she was gorgeous. curvy, confidant and classy.
went to handlebar grill. sat facing each other and as her dress was quite short, wasnt long before the hand was on the legs, and basically we spent next hour with my hand on her panties whilst we had beers.
was supposed to meet a lady from high heels who i know. she loves to dress up in tacky lingerie that i buy her and take pics of her in, but she was also an hour late.
maybe if i called her mom next morning she would let her stay with me. interesting! so next morning i called mrs virgin and politely asked if daughter could sleep with me. she said yes. thats a first time to do that!
finger in also. and so for what was surely a strange event, i get to have her ass before i took her cherry. another first!
another interesting trip as always!
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ff
interesting, informative and entertaining as always
i love handlebar as food is ok nice company but why was she wearing panties.....my rules are no panties and with the length of mini skirts my girl wear sometimes she shows more than she should (ok, imho, that is fine but then some guys are square :d). if we ever get to be in the same place at the same time it will be fiun as i like to go hh after handlebar...took groin strain (from uae) there in december - his first time in manila and he was raped in the 'naughty corner', and then disappeared all night
high heels girl - i know some from there and also the manager, maybe we should pm as you know i have plenty of accessories.....and she can certainly borrow them :)
in brazil i found it common for the ladies to want greek as they save their pussy for the husband. weird but true and very enjoyable for those who like classical languages
should there in may will pm you, also july as now am planning weekend trips just like you :d
FreebieFan
04-09-10, 08:39
ff
interesting, informative and entertaining as always
i love handlebar as food is ok nice company but why was she wearing panties.....my rules are no panties and with the length of mini skirts my girl wear sometimes she shows more than she should (ok, imho, that is fine but then some guys are square :d). if we ever get to be in the same place at the same time it will be fiun as i like to go hh after handlebar...took groin strain (from uae) there in december - his first time in manila and he was raped in the 'naughty corner', and then disappeared all night
high heels girl - i know some from there and also the manager, maybe we should pm as you know i have plenty of accessories.....and she can certainly borrow them :)
in brazil i found it common for the ladies to want greek as they save their pussy for the husband. weird but true and very enjoyable for those who like classical languages
should there in may will pm you, also july as now am planning weekend trips just like you :di thought that it was probably best to let the panties slide down in their own time. and they did.
but yes, i have one or two friends who delight in no panties....i love sitting at the traffic light with a digit or two deeply inserted and seeing the stares of the various mendicants who are not quite sure what they are seeing.
had a memorable meal in filling station last year with one such pantie-less lady. glad i only need one hand to eat a burger. lol.
my next trip should be either late april or may.
although im taking a 22 year old indonesian student to singapore at about same time. 22 year old indonesian...22 year old filipina.... life has sonme tough calls. !!!
The bottom line seems to be: you can have a real good time in either country, but PI is cheaper.
Pi ladies are attractive, very friendly and regular girls are there to bang!
Thailand has better food, more culture and very attractive girls, but non pros are difficult to hook up with.
PI is cheaper and less touristy, but poorer and less safe.
So do both!
as for safety and food it depends. I think long term residents do in RP better than in Thailand, while newbies will do better in Thailand. The foreign death toll in Thailand is little discussed. No such thing in RP, here every death is high lighted. The annual RP death wont fill a month's worth of foreigner killings in Pattaya.
Food: If you love seafood it is RP.
Doing both? Depends on time, less on the budget.
Member #4698
04-09-10, 19:24
Doing both? Depends on time, less on the budget.GE, GGBL, M, and You (TF) make a lot of valid and informed points. This forum is great.
When I suggested visiting both countries, I meant to write that one should not go to Thailand (or Pi) exclusively until they have tasted the fruit in both countries. Many guys go to Thailand first, and fall in love with the girls, the food, and the general vibe. Then they return again and again to Thailand and never visit the Philippines or anywhere else. This I think is a mistake. I am crazy about Thai women, Filipinas, Chinese girls and let's not forget darling little Khmer chicks. I love them all!
If time is a constraint, so be it. I would be happy to spend a week or ten days in either country and I would plan to visit the country I did not have the time for next time or the time after that.
Fortunately for me, I am able to take 5 or 6 weeks off from my work, so I can swing through two or three Asian countries per trip (or visit 3 or 4 destinations inside just one country). It’s nice to mix it up.
I work for the day when I will have the financial resources to chuck it all and move out to Asia permanently. I do not know where I will set up residents, but I have a few places in mind (somewhere in either Thailand or PI most likely). And when I do move out to Asia, I will still want to take brief holidays to neighboring provinces and countries. Macau (and HKG) is just a couple hours away from MNL. Phnom Penh is ditto from BKK.
Member #4698
04-09-10, 20:34
Whilst I agree with all your points raised above, it is incorrect to state that non pros are difficult to hook up with. I enjoy picking up non working girls, and have as much success with non working girls there as I do in Phils. Its all about having the right game, and right style. For sure, the direct approach that works well in Philippines is is not as useful in Thailand, but there are plenty to be had in Thailand. My most recent Thai trip yielded 3 in 3 days, as did the trip before.Guys, please excuse us if we deviate a little and discuss ways to pick up non P4P Thai girls here. The connection in this thread comes from the discussion on dating non pro Filipinas vs. dating non pro Thais.
I have always wanted to break into the non professional Thai market, but I have a couple of problems that always stop me. First, it’s so damn easy and enjoyable to fool around with Thai massage and GOGO girls, that once I start that up it becomes hard to focus on regular girls. Second, I don’t speak Thai and that is a major problem in breaking the ice with ordinary middle class Thai girls. I would like to learn some basic Thai. I bought Rosetta Stone Thai version in Pantip but my progress so far is very slow. Third, and correct me if I am wrong, doesn’t it take a lot of time before you get it on with the girl (even if you use shortcut dating services like ThailoveLinks, CraigslistBKK, or Passion.com)?
So FreebieFan, spill the beans. How do you do it?
Gogobarlover
04-10-10, 01:31
Now that I have made up my mind for Thailand, I can start to finalize the details. I've decided to give myself eight nights in Thailand and cut my stay in Hong Kong by one day. This will allow me to spend four nights in Bangkok and four nights at Pattaya. I believe I will try the Penthouse Hotel in Pattaya since their website looks interesting. Their rates for basic rooms also seem very affordable and they advertise pickup from the Bangkok airport for only $42. I will be arriving on a late flight from Hong Kong and it will be nice to have pickup arranged. After my four nights I will have them return me to Bangkok and I will make reservations at either Majestic Suites or the Nana hotel which were recommended. Please let me know if this plan doesn't sound feasible or if you would make other recommendations.
Once again, thank you everyone for your assistance. I'm looking forward to a memorable first trip to Asia.
SteveGood choice Steve. Hehe, I can see why you're interested in The Penthouse hotel hehe my gosh! Not a bad location to. It's near The Royal Garden Plaza. You'll know when you see a red plane in the front of the mall. You're also close to Walking Street. You just need to walk on Pattaya Beach Road or take a short ride on a Baht Bus and get off of on South Pattaya Road. You'll know when the bus turns left onto South Pattaya Road. Then, you're in the beginning of Walking Street.
Not a bad idea to do 4 nights in Bangkok and 4 nights in Pattaya. On my last trip to Thailand, I did 1 week in Bangkok and 1 week in Pattaya. You can do Pattaya for the first 4 nights and do Bangkok for the remaining 4 nights. If you're in Bangkok, the trip to the airport will be closer as oppose to being in Pattaya. If you take a taxi to Bangkok from Pattaya, it will be about 2 hours if there's no heavy traffic. You can also take a bus but, it will take 3hr and 30 minutes. Just take a taxi.
On my last trip in Bangkok, I stayed in the Nana Hotel. Not a really a fancy hotel but, what makes this hotel stand out is its prime location. I was content with the hotel itself. They have a Disco inside of the hotel called Angel Disco. Nana Plaza is soo close to Nana Hotel it's unbelievable just how short the distance. When I BF a girl from one of the Gogos at Nana Plaza, they get happy when they find out that my hotel is Nana Hotel. On top of that, you will see alot of freelancers/streetwalkers hanging out in Nana Hotel Parking lot. Nana Hotel is considered a wh*re hotel hehe. You'll see many girls walking in and out of that hotel. One thing I need to warn you about Nana Hotel though is that it does not have an in room safe. The room is pretty big for the price you pay and does have a mini bar.
Majestic Suites Hotel is just across Nana Hotel on the same side as Nana Plaza. Majestic Suites should be nicer and cleaner than Nana Hotel but, the rooms will be a little smaller. Not sure if it has in in room safe though.
If you stay at either of these hotels which both as mentioned from before are both GF. The girls just need to show their ID and leave the ID with the security guard who will be sitting near the elevators. There is Foodland Supermarket nearby also. It is across the Amari Boulevard Hotel on Soi 5. Just go onto the main road Sukhumvit, walk towards Nana BTS station and on your right, you'll see Landmark Hotel. If you look to your left, Foodland will be on the other side of Sukhumvit Road. You will need to cross the street.
Nana Plaza is just 1 Red Light District. You can also check out Soi Cowboy another Red Light District area which is not too far from Nana. Just go to Nana BTS station, catch the skytrain heading towards On Nut station. You will get off the first BTS station called Asoke BTS Station. Soi Cowboy is nearby. It should be near the Interchange Tower. Remember, Nana BTS station is the nearest station to Nana Hotel and Majestic Suites hotels.
Heh, don't forget to try a soapy man. It's quite an experience. They have many on Thanon Ratchadaphisek road. The main road before Soi Cowboy is Thanon Ratchadaphisek. There's many Soapys on this road. You can take a taxi or ride the Bangkok MRT subway station which is close to Soi Cowboy.
As far as sight seeing in Bangkok, I'd say check out The Grand Palace, Wat Pho and Wat Arun. All 3 of these are near the Chao Phrya River. I would say the easiest way to get there is utilize the BTS Skytrain and get off of Sapahan Taksin Station. Then from here, take a ferry boat and head north on the Chao Phrya River. This will take you to What Pho, Grand Palace and Wat Arun.
Beijing Lover
04-10-10, 04:42
One of ISG Manila girls is back in town.
I saw Anna arriving from BKK or HK (can't be sure about which) in the airport.
She looked gorgeous as ever with a tiny black dress.
Pity she seemed to have relatives around otherwise I would have taken her for the night!
Soapy Smith
04-10-10, 04:53
Wanted to let everyone know about the Greenhills mall. Can't give you directions to where it is exactly. But both times I went there the cab driver knew it by name.
Greenhills Mall is on Ortigas Avenue in San Juan City. Its other great virtue is the huge flea market for pearls. Most are run by Muslim women, since the pearls themselves are mostly farmed in Mindanao. The number of competing booths is very impressive. If you want to buy some for a special lady -- or even for your own mother or sister -- be prepared to shop around and not commit early to a particular vendor. They negotiate, so always offer less than they ask. Then thank them and walk away. You can come back later after you've comparison shopped other booths. The pearls are probably all real, but you can always ask to check them in your teeth. If they're real, the vendors won't refuse your request. The trick is to put a pearl between two teeth and then run the tips of your teeth along the outside of the pearl. Real pearls have a bit of gritty texture; fake pearls will feel smooth.
FreebieFan
04-10-10, 09:45
version in Pantip but my progress so far is very slow. Third, and correct me if I am wrong, doesn't it take a lot of time before you get it on with the girl (even if you use shortcut dating services like ThailoveLinks, CraigslistBKK, or Passion. Com)?
So FreebieFan, spill the beans. How do you do it?Quite honestly I'm not sure that I know how. But I do know that most of the THai girls I've been with have literally picked me. As in they send message to me on DIA or Tagged, Friendster etc without their pic.
Then when I've seemed interested then moved to email, ym chat etc webcam. Then I've managed to snag a trip to Thailand (in the case of another DIA 22 year old Thai girl we went to Singapore together)
I guess I come across to them as decent, clean cut, slightly older (I'm early 50s) but with playful attitude. Have to keep them interested with texts and sometimes daily messages but they deliver.
One girl (34) who worked in Siam Paragon was waiting for me in my hotel. Said Hi and were in bed 10 minutes after meeting face to face.
These ladies are generally in the 30 plus age range. They know they look good, and like to be treated well, but they arent generally 21 etc. One lady from CM (33) came to meet me and as part of out chat (obviously they all speak English well) the bet was about bowling. If I won we would go to bed. If not, no nookie. So I was bowling my heart out, and thankfully she let me win. Bedtime LOL.
Thes girls all have a sense of fun that their Filipina counterparts sometimes don't have.
My last Thai adventure saw me with a lovely Thai lady who loved to be fingered in public. Suan Lum, all taxis, Long gun bar etc. 35 and hot as could B. I guess I get lucky. But for sure, nothing also beats a 21 year Thai hottlie slathering oil over your best parts!
Majestic Suites Hotel is just across Nana Hotel on the same side as Nana Plaza. Majestic Suites should be nicer and cleaner than Nana Hotel but, the rooms will be a little smaller. Not sure if it has in in room safe though.
Majestic Suites does have in room safes. I have stayed there twice and recommend it. One negative is that it does not have a driveway or entrance from the street so you have to negotiate the crowded sidewalk to get inside.
http://www.majesticsuites.com/accomodation.html
Cunning Stunt
04-10-10, 23:50
One of ISG Manila girls is back in town.
I saw Anna arriving from BKK or HK (can't be sure about which) in the airport.
She looked gorgeous as ever with a tiny black dress.
Pity she seemed to have relatives around otherwise I would have taken her for the night!
I think that she has been in Macau, no doubt making tons of much needed money (she is putting her sister through college) whilst giving lots of pleasure to many happy Macauans.
Shame that I am not in town to avail myself of a promised freebie with my favourite fubu;).
Hello everyone!
I am going to the Philippines next year my first time, I have been in Thailand, Burma and Cambodia.
Can someone help me understand how is the nightlife in Manila?
I attend discos (Climax Bangkok, Phuket Tiger) in Manila, are there similar places or I have to attend the beer bars and what are their names?
Where can I find freelancers during the day and night ?
Is there finebar at beer bars in Manila,too? How much does is it cost?
How much does a St and a LT?
What are the best beer bars?
p.s
Las Cafè is a beer bar or a disco?
Gogobarlover
04-12-10, 12:41
Hello everyone!
I am going to the Philippines next year my first time, I have been in Thailand, Burma and Cambodia.
Can someone help me understand how is the nightlife in Manila?
I attend discos (Climax Bangkok, Phuket Tiger) in Manila, are there similar places or I have to attend the beer bars and what are their names?
Where can I find freelancers during the day and night ?
Is there finebar at beer bars in Manila,too? How much does is it cost?
How much does a St and a LT?
What are the best beer bars?
PS: Las Cafè is a beer bar or a disco?Don't know much of the discos in Manila but, I know most of the gogo bars are in Makati on P Burgos Street, you can also find gogo bars in Pasay City.
EDSA International Entertainment Complex is in Pasay City located right before Mall of Asia.
LA Cafe is both a beer bar and disco. The disco is on the 2nd level and they also have live bands playing at LA Cafe. LA Cafe is located in Ermita which is north of Pasay City. I believe you can find alot of freelancers at LA Cafe.
P Burgos St in Makati
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3pF4aGpQpk
EDSA International Entertainment Complex in Pasay City
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/12969899.jpg
LA Cafe in Ermita
http://gibler.unboxyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/front-of-the-la-cafe-manila-dscf0123.jpg
Hello everyone! I am going to the Philippines next year my first time, I have been in Thailand, Burma and Cambodia. Can someone help me understand how is the nightlife in Manila? I attend discos (Climax Bangkok, Phuket Tiger) in Manila, are there similar places or I have to attend the beer bars and what are their names? Where can I find freelancers during the day and night ? Is there finebar at beer bars in Manila,too? How much does is it cost? How much does a St and a LT? What are the best beer bars? Las Cafè is a beer bar or a disco?erm, let me see now...
Night life is good in Manila.
Yes there are discos in Manila.
There are many bars in Burgos Street (Makati) for a start as well as EDSA.
Free lancers are in malls & on the streets.
Bar fines range from P2000-P3000 & up.
ST can be had for as little as P500 & LT P1500-P3000 or more depending.
Sorry to be so brief but you would know this and more if you bothered at all to do even a little research of the relevant threads in the Philippines section of this board... Jeezus!
AV
Hello everyone!
I am going to the Philippines next year my first time, I have been in Thailand, Burma and Cambodia.
Can someone help me understand how is the nightlife in Manila?
I attend discos (Climax Bangkok, Phuket Tiger) in Manila, are there similar places or I have to attend the beer bars and what are their names?
Where can I find freelancers during the day and night ?
Is there finebar at beer bars in Manila,too? How much does is it cost?
How much does a St and a LT?
What are the best beer bars?
p.s
Las Cafè is a beer bar or a disco?
Read the fxxxing Forum top to bottom.
You will get all the info you need. Lazy?
Lazy?I am not lazy!it is only because I don't speak english very well,I don't understand well ,thanks!
But It's no problem I will follow the thread bettar I have 10 months for that!
Wow! 3000 pesos for fine bar is very expensive!
Don't know much of the discos in Manila but, I know most of the gogo bars are in Makati on P Burgos Street, you can also find gogo bars in Pasay City.
EDSA International Entertainment Complex is in Pasay City located right before Mall of Asia.
LA Cafe is both a beer bar and disco. The disco is on the 2nd level and they also have live bands playing at LA Cafe. LA Cafe is located in Ermita which is north of Pasay City. I believe you can find alot of freelancers at LA Cafe.
P Burgos St in Makati
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3pF4aGpQpk
EDSA International Entertainment Complex in Pasay City
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/12969899.jpg
LA Cafe in Ermita
http://gibler.unboxyourself.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/front-of-the-la-cafe-manila-dscf0123.jpgHi Gogobarlover!
Thanks for your kind reply, you know I have been a lots time in Thailand and Manila look like very strange,many news places, a new experience!
Wicked Roger
04-13-10, 07:09
But yes, I have one or two friends who delight in no panties....Had a memorable meal in Filling Station last year with one such pantie-less lady. Glad I only need one hand to eat a burger. lol.
My next trip should be either late April or May.
Although Im taking a 22 year old Indonesian student to Singapore at about same time. 22 year old Indonesian...22 year old Filipina.... life has sonme tough calls. !!!
FF
LOL, was going to say I hope you remembered which hand you used to eat the burger with but am sure both would taste sweet ;)
Remember one night in UAE with a Filipina, micro mini, no panties and she opended her legs to a group of 4 guys who were staring, one nearly fell of his seat in the bar...she was also sitting above some people who also saw same...wonderful memeories
Tough I agree, mine is 18 soon to be 19 (22 is OK but not much older - I do have standards :D) and I hope/planning am there for her birthday...so May is my likely landing date middle (ish). And what a birthday present she will receive ;) I do believe in a mix of nice and traditional and very kinky presents....and you know which ones I am good at choosing ;)
PM me, email me and lets hope we can catch up, maybe swap dates as mine will like yours :D
Dear all,
how much isthe existing rate in EDSA ENT. COMPLEX for:
BAR FINE
ST
LT
LADIES DRINKS
BEERS
ANY TABLE CHARGE?
AND ALSO LA CAFE HOW IS THE ST And lt
cHEERS.
Genkisugiru
04-17-10, 11:31
I have searched and RTFF, but I still feel the need to ask if anyone can recommend a good weekly condo or suite hotel in Manila. I've spent a few nights at the Pan Pacific, which I enjoyed. But staying for a week this May, I don't want to pay $150+ per night, and I'd prefer more of a condo / apartment type place.
My preferences are:
- separate bedroom and living/dining areas
- kitchenette / refrigerator / microwave, preferably with a small stove, kitchenware
- reliable broadband Internet service, preferably included in room rate or reasonable extra cost; I need to be online constantly
- good desk and chair or sofa and coffee table for computing and working
- clean, no cockroaches, ants, bed bugs
- quiet, no disco noise or construction noise
- girl-friendly (of course)
- reasonably good access via walking or short taxi rides to restauarants / shops / malls (to pick up chicks, not to shop)
- good gym in the building or very nearby
- sufficient security to prevent clingers from showing up at the door, and for my IT gear not to get stolen
- maximum US $100 / night all in, preferably less
From reviews I've read on several travel sites, Linden Suites Hotel in Ortigas seems to be exactly what I need, but I'm concerned as to whether or not this place is girl-friendly? It's reputed to be a high-security place, recommended for women travelers and families. Does this mean NON-girl-friendly, or can a guy bring in a couple of chicks daily with no problems? How is Ortigas generally in terms of location and access?
Some members here have recommended A. Venue Makati Hotel, but I've read many reviews on travel sites complaining of insect infestation and all-night construction noise. G-Hotel, recommended here, has suites, but they don't have kitchenettes.
I hope to be mostly with non-pro's or semi-pro's I've met on web sites, as well as ad hoc mall pickups, rather than bar-fining chicks. So I don't care much about quick access to girlie bars. Thanks for any recommendations.
The Linden Suites is indeed gf.
There is also a back entrance that you can use, however I think that it is locked at about 10 pm, or maybe 11.
You might also investigate the Emerald mansion, on Emerald Avenue. It is also in Ortigas, and has two entrances. This is not a hotel, but apartments are avaiable for rent. I am not sure if they will rent for 1 week, but they will certainly rent for one month. I think it is about 40,000 per month, a very good rate for a full apartment in a high end part of the city.
Good luck,
Gangles
I have searched and RTFF, but I still feel the need to ask if anyone can recommend a good weekly condo or suite hotel in Manila. I've spent a few nights at the Pan Pacific, which I enjoyed. But staying for a week this May, I don't want to pay $150+ per night, and I'd prefer more of a condo / apartment type place.
My preferences are:
- separate bedroom and living/dining areas
- kitchenette / refrigerator / microwave, preferably with a small stove, kitchenware
- reliable broadband Internet service, preferably included in room rate or reasonable extra cost; I need to be online constantly
- good desk and chair or sofa and coffee table for computing and working
- clean, no cockroaches, ants, bed bugs
- quiet, no disco noise or construction noise
- girl-friendly (of course)
- reasonably good access via walking or short taxi rides to restauarants / shops / malls (to pick up chicks, not to shop)
- good gym in the building or very nearby
- sufficient security to prevent clingers from showing up at the door, and for my IT gear not to get stolen
- maximum US $100 / night all in, preferably less
From reviews I've read on several travel sites, Linden Suites Hotel in Ortigas seems to be exactly what I need, but I'm concerned as to whether or not this place is girl-friendly? It's reputed to be a high-security place, recommended for women travelers and families. Does this mean NON-girl-friendly, or can a guy bring in a couple of chicks daily with no problems? How is Ortigas generally in terms of location and access?
Some members here have recommended A. Venue Makati Hotel, but I've read many reviews on travel sites complaining of insect infestation and all-night construction noise. G-Hotel, recommended here, has suites, but they don't have kitchenettes.
I hope to be mostly with non-pro's or semi-pro's I've met on web sites, as well as ad hoc mall pickups, rather than bar-fining chicks. So I don't care much about quick access to girlie bars. Thanks for any recommendations.
Contact a local Real Estate agent like Gold Rock Realty for example & book a condo like East Ortigas Mansions for example. Much cheaper, club house with WiFi swimming pool, cafe serving meals & endless pretty girls to ogle/try your luck on. A little further out of the city than the hotels but very nice to live in if you are staying for awhile.
AV
Naughty Nigel
04-19-10, 03:16
Hey guys,
I just had my gf w me late night at new world hotel in makati and they called security on my because she forgot her id? No I'd. They sent her back home to QZ city and I did not get any aktion. GRRRRRRRR. I never had this happen ANYWHERE in Philippines before. WTF! I'm staying at Peninsula hotel in Makati on my trip in May. Can I expect similar crap from hotel security then?
Nigel
WestCoast1
04-19-10, 04:43
Dear all,
how much isthe existing rate in EDSA ENT. COMPLEX for:
BAR FINE
ST
LT
LADIES DRINKS
BEERS
ANY TABLE CHARGE?
AND ALSO LA CAFE HOW IS THE ST And lt
cHEERS.Can't speak to EDSA. Few months ago LAC and G-Point Cafe were same. P1500 ST and 2000-2500 LT was typical. Twice girls hit on 1500 for LT, one in Gpoint and one in LAC. Also twice ST turned into LT just because it was late and the gal fell asleep after. Couple of times I could not get rid of the gal the next day. I saw girls asking 3K, and guys offereing 2000 for ST. Also had guys tell me they offered 2000 then tipped 1000 for ST and thought it was a steal. Sheesh, not so smart. Ya up in Makati some of the bf is 3000, and gents are tipping 1-3K on top of that. Nutso. 8 out of 10 will hit at 1.5K for 3 hours.
Hey guys,
I just had my gf w me late night at new world hotel in makati and they called security on my because she forgot her id? No I'd. They sent her back home to QZ city and I did not get any aktion. GRRRRRRRR. I never had this happen ANYWHERE in Philippines before. WTF! I'm staying at Peninsula hotel in Makati on my trip in May. Can I expect similar crap from hotel security then?
Nigel
Sorry to hear that mate but one question I always ask my gf for the night is "do you have your ID?"
I have encountered a number of hotels (New World, Heritage spring to mind) that will ask for ID, especially if you are late (like after 2 am). Once she shows the ID then no worries. More and more hotels elsewhere in SE Asia are now asking for ID to cover themselves in case something unexpected happens in the room.
Just out of curiosity; did you register for a double or single occupancy?
Yep. I had the same problem the the New World. I stated this at another time. But no one believed me on this forum. Peninsula should be not problem. Just remember if you enter any high class hotel after 10 pm. The security watch increases for hookers. They have to register. Etc. Best to get back early.
Key Master
04-19-10, 06:14
Hey guys,
I just had my gf w me late night at new world hotel in makati and they called security on my because she forgot her id? No I'd. They sent her back home to QZ city and I did not get any aktion. GRRRRRRRR. I never had this happen ANYWHERE in Philippines before. WTF! I'm staying at Peninsula hotel in Makati on my trip in May. Can I expect similar crap from hotel security then?
Nigel
I'm not sure how it played out and haven't been to this hotel, but it sounds like you had the girl come to your hotel on her own? If that's the case, they may have been asking for her id coming in alone like that. That happens at one of the hotels I stay at, and when she leaves alone they call up the room and make sure everything is ok. But when I actually am with the woman when I come into this hotel, they don't ask for her id, but if she leaves without me, they will stop her at the door and call the room id left or not. Also, if she comes alone they will call up the room and make sure it's ok for her to come up.
Hey guys,
I just had my gf w me late night at new world hotel in makati and they called security on my because she forgot her id? No I'd. They sent her back home to QZ city and I did not get any aktion. GRRRRRRRR. I never had this happen ANYWHERE in Philippines before. WTF! I'm staying at Peninsula hotel in Makati on my trip in May. Can I expect similar crap from hotel security then?
Nigel
Why is this crap and why focus on other hotels that requires ID cards from their guests? More logical to ensure your GF has her ID with her thus eliminating this problem.
Had my first trip to Manila recently, only a one nighter though so tried to make the most of it.
After some research on the forum I had decided to head to Burgous and then to Cafe Havana, and if those two did not work out for me, then would do EDSA later.
LA was to be saved for the next trip.
But then, as so many times before, a quick chat with my taxi driver and all plans are replaced by new :)
Firstly he told me he could take me to some apartments with 20 or so girls, where you can pick for take out and massage. This did not attract me at all, cause I really prefer the freedom to browse the goods before you have to make a decision. At apartments, my experience is that you get a few seconds to see the girls then you have to pick one. Besides I wanted to see some of Manila's nightlife. Anyone else have experience with these apartments?
When I told the driver I wanted to go to Burgous, he said he knew other places with better show, where the girls go totally nude. I was surprised as I thought they would do that in Burgous, but he said the law is upheld stricter in Makati becuase it is a business district so no nudity (can anyone confirm?). I then agreed to go with him to a show place where the girls will strip down completely. Ended up not far from airport I think, Rohas/Rojas Boulevard. This street had quite a few clubs with titles including "international show/entertainment". My driver's recomendation was Asia Club or Asia something. At door they will ask you to leave you mobile if it has a camera. Inside you get seated, and a manager will come and ask you to order drinks and if you want company. Yes and yes! He then took me to view an aquarium, girls seated in three - four rows with numbers. Price was 875 per hour, including a ladies drink.
If you want take out, he said minimum spending on the house was 2 hours, and the take out fee was 8k. Didn't bother to nego the take out, as I wasn't going to do that anyway, but picked a nice girl who turned out very good in English so had a good hour.
The place looks has a big stage, with all couches facing the stage. On stage they have normal dance acts (no nudity) as intermission entertainment, some girls just come on and dance in their bikinis or topless but not very entertaining. And then there will be some more engaging dances where the girl goes all nude. To my disappointment, there wasn't any striptease though. Like found in the US, where the girls definitely tease more. Here it is more like a dance, but nude. All clientele was asian it seemed.
While sitting there with my girl I was informed that the covercharge of 800-something was also added to my bill, was no informed of this before I entered to be aware. My long island was around 400 if I remember correct. After the main dance event, the dancer came over to my table and suddenly she had a drink I had to pay some 800 for as well. She rubbed me up well, and was very hot, but only stayed for a few minutes as she obviously wanted to do as many tables as possible.
Talked to one of the managers and he said all the clubs there had the same setup.
This was not my thing but an interesting experience nonetheless. Final bill had amounted to around 3.5k.
Saw many smaller looking bars etc heading to and from this area, might try some others next time.
Told driver to take me to Cafe Havana, which surprised him, he told me there is nothing happening there, but I wanted to see it.
Cafe Havana looks like a normal bar, and for a second I thought there might be a chance to score some freebies here. At the bar this spanish girl was all over me (she said she was spanish, but might have been south american for all I know), but she was not my type so I pulled away. Then caught eyes of a very nice looking philippina, talked to her and the friend, danced had drinks, she told me she was a stewardess with Cebu, I thought I was the MAN. Then suddenly, the ugly looking friend asked me if I wanted both of them to come with me and I realized I had been blind. No freebies here. I said I wasn't interested in both, cause frankly I am not sure I could have managed to get it up if the ugly one had followed. They offered 6k for both, I offered 3k for the stewardess which was rejected and she was already eyeing someone else. So took a stroll around, talked to an australian girl who was there to party with her pakistani friend, they were definitely not working. But all the philippinas I talked to later was all, without exception, there to sell their services. Inside and outside. Asking price/going price seemed around 5k, I got one for 3k after handling her bar bill of 1.3k. Very good looking but a disappointment in the sack.
Next time it is time for EDSA and LA, and possibly Burgous if time permits.
How far is it from EDSA to LA?
Oh, paid my driver who had been with me for 4-5 hours, 1.5k, any comments on that?
Genkisugiru
04-19-10, 07:53
Contact a local Real Estate agent like Gold Rock Realty for example & book a condo like East Ortigas Mansions for example. Much cheaper, club house with WiFi swimming pool, cafe serving meals & endless pretty girls to ogle/try your luck on. A little further out of the city than the hotels but very nice to live in if you are staying for awhile.
AVThank you for these helpful tips!
Genkisugiru
04-19-10, 07:59
The Linden Suites is indeed gf.
There is also a back entrance that you can use, however I think that it is locked at about 10 pm, or maybe 11.
You might also investigate the Emerald mansion, on Emerald Avenue. It is also in Ortigas, and has two entrances. This is not a hotel, but apartments are avaiable for rent. I am not sure if they will rent for 1 week, but they will certainly rent for one month. I think it is about 40,000 per month, a very good rate for a full apartment in a high end part of the city.
Good luck,
GanglesHey Gangles,
Thank you for confirming Linden is GF, and for these other great leads.
Re: your comment, "There is also a back entrance that you can use" -- I'm hoping to hear this from the girls on my upcoming trip to PH!
Had my first trip to Manila recently, only a one nighter though so tried to make the most of it.
After some research on the forum I had decided to head to Burgous and then to Cafe Havana, and if those two did not work out for me, then would do EDSA later.
LA was to be saved for the next trip.
Oh, paid my driver who had been with me for 4-5 hours, 1.5k, any comments on that?We all have had a first time - and all made mistakes. You will get plenty of posts about how much you overpaid for everything but I think you would be far better off next time sticking to your plans that you had made after RTFF.
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Had my first trip to Manila recently, only a one nighter though so tried to make the most of it.
After some research on the forum I had decided to head to Burgous and then to Cafe Havana, and if those two did not work out for me, then would do EDSA later.
LA was to be saved for the next trip.
But then, as so many times before, a quick chat with my taxi driver and all plans are replaced by new :)
Firstly he told me he could take me to some apartments with 20 or so girls, where you can pick for take out and massage. This did not attract me at all, cause I really prefer the freedom to browse the goods before you have to make a decision. At apartments, my experience is that you get a few seconds to see the girls then you have to pick one. Besides I wanted to see some of Manila's nightlife. Anyone else have experience with these apartments?
When I told the driver I wanted to go to Burgous, he said he knew other places with better show, where the girls go totally nude. I was surprised as I thought they would do that in Burgous, but he said the law is upheld stricter in Makati becuase it is a business district so no nudity (can anyone confirm?). I then agreed to go with him to a show place where the girls will strip down completely. Ended up not far from airport I think, Rohas/Rojas Boulevard. This street had quite a few clubs with titles including "international show/entertainment". My driver's recomendation was Asia Club or Asia something. At door they will ask you to leave you mobile if it has a camera. Inside you get seated, and a manager will come and ask you to order drinks and if you want company. Yes and yes! He then took me to view an aquarium, girls seated in three - four rows with numbers. Price was 875 per hour, including a ladies drink.
If you want take out, he said minimum spending on the house was 2 hours, and the take out fee was 8k. Didn't bother to nego the take out, as I wasn't going to do that anyway, but picked a nice girl who turned out very good in English so had a good hour.
The place looks has a big stage, with all couches facing the stage. On stage they have normal dance acts (no nudity) as intermission entertainment, some girls just come on and dance in their bikinis or topless but not very entertaining. And then there will be some more engaging dances where the girl goes all nude. To my disappointment, there wasn't any striptease though. Like found in the US, where the girls definitely tease more. Here it is more like a dance, but nude. All clientele was asian it seemed.
While sitting there with my girl I was informed that the covercharge of 800-something was also added to my bill, was no informed of this before I entered to be aware. My long island was around 400 if I remember correct. After the main dance event, the dancer came over to my table and suddenly she had a drink I had to pay some 800 for as well. She rubbed me up well, and was very hot, but only stayed for a few minutes as she obviously wanted to do as many tables as possible.
Talked to one of the managers and he said all the clubs there had the same setup.
This was not my thing but an interesting experience nonetheless. Final bill had amounted to around 3.5k.
Saw many smaller looking bars etc heading to and from this area, might try some others next time.
Told driver to take me to Cafe Havana, which surprised him, he told me there is nothing happening there, but I wanted to see it.
Cafe Havana looks like a normal bar, and for a second I thought there might be a chance to score some freebies here. At the bar this spanish girl was all over me (she said she was spanish, but might have been south american for all I know), but she was not my type so I pulled away. Then caught eyes of a very nice looking philippina, talked to her and the friend, danced had drinks, she told me she was a stewardess with Cebu, I thought I was the MAN. Then suddenly, the ugly looking friend asked me if I wanted both of them to come with me and I realized I had been blind. No freebies here. I said I wasn't interested in both, cause frankly I am not sure I could have managed to get it up if the ugly one had followed. They offered 6k for both, I offered 3k for the stewardess which was rejected and she was already eyeing someone else. So took a stroll around, talked to an australian girl who was there to party with her pakistani friend, they were definitely not working. But all the philippinas I talked to later was all, without exception, there to sell their services. Inside and outside. Asking price/going price seemed around 5k, I got one for 3k after handling her bar bill of 1.3k. Very good looking but a disappointment in the sack.
Next time it is time for EDSA and LA, and possibly Burgous if time permits.
How far is it from EDSA to LA?
Oh, paid my driver who had been with me for 4-5 hours, 1.5k, any comments on that?Since you were only there 1 night I would have recommended you got to a nice hotel in Makati, went straight to Burgos St and BF one or two ladies for lots of nice sex. Least hassle & best bet given limited time.
The prices you paid/were quoted for everything all along the way on your night of exploration were astronomically high.
The 'apartments' you mention are known as casa's. They are underground illegal brothels catering mostly to locals (very cheap) and foreigners desperate to walk a dangerous path (not so cheap). I would'nt recommend them.
Cheers mate
AV
I have searched and RTFF, but I still feel the need to ask if anyone can recommend a good weekly condo or suite hotel in Manila. I've spent a few nights at the Pan Pacific, which I enjoyed. But staying for a week this May, I don't want to pay $150+ per night, and I'd prefer more of a condo / apartment type place.I just responded in "Manila hotels" section
Funny, if I pick something up or bring back a bargirl I make sure to steer her toward the info desk where they ask her to leave her ID. Much safer this way.
At the Nana hotel in Bangkok they actually set up a table at the elevators in the eveining to check ids.
Why is this crap and why focus on other hotels that requires ID cards from their guests? More logical to ensure your GF has her ID with her thus eliminating this problem.
Since you were only there 1 night I would have recommended you got to a nice hotel in Makati, went straight to Burgos St and BF one or two ladies for lots of nice sex. Least hassle & best bet given limited time.
The prices you paid/were quoted for everything all along the way on your night of exploration were astronomically high.
The 'apartments' you mention are known as casa's. They are underground illegal brothels catering mostly to locals (very cheap) and foreigners desperate to walk a dangerous path (not so cheap). I would'nt recommend them.
Cheers mate
AV
Thanks for your advice.
I thought barfine + ST/LT in Burgos would anyway amount to 3-5k? Or have I misunderstood.
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