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Looks a lot like the guy who scammed me at Glorietta Mall a few weeks back
How did he scam you?
Irony Monger
07-19-10, 12:07
How did he scam you?
I was looking for a cell phone, he did the "Hey I recognize you from the hotel, I know a friend who will give you a great deal" bit. I fell for it, ended up paying too much for a run of the mill phone and "lending" him some money for medicine which he was going to return that night at the hotel after he got his paycheck (of course he never showed and no one there had never heard of him). All of this on my first morning in the Philippines ever. Yes, a fool and his money are soon parted. Lets just say I quickly learned not to be so trusting. I chock it up to a right of passage...at least I got my cherry boy scam out of the way quickly and without too much damage.
I was looking for a cell phone, he did the "Hey I recognize you from the hotel, I know a friend who will give you a great deal" bit. I fell for it, ended up paying too much for a run of the mill phone and "lending" him some money for medicine which he was going to return that night at the hotel after he got his paycheck (of course he never showed and no one there had never heard of him). All of this on my first morning in the Philippines ever. Yes, a fool and his money are soon parted. Lets just say I quickly learned not to be so trusting. I chock it up to a right of passage...at least I got my cherry boy scam out of the way quickly and without too much damage.
Thanks for sharing, your inexperience did contribute greatly to your misfortune but as you said you did learn something new. Be careful not to venture out to Burgos where the peddlers and scammers are embedded in the area and are on the prowl for novices.
These stories, and my own experience (once) means these guys must have a very good rate of success.
As I said elsewhere, they are so good at it that the only way you can avoid them is to be downright rude, and that is anathema to a newbie who is setting out to be loved by all.
This thread should be compulsory viewing for all newbie Phils visitors.
These stories, and my own experience (once) means these guys must have a very good rate of success...
RK:
yes, you bet your life! The only thing one can do in such situations is giving him or her (!) a smile while saying "no thanks, I'm fine", or "it's not my first time in the Philippines so I know this trick". And particularly no further conversation with these jerks! For me that worked out quite nicely!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Econo Tech
07-20-10, 03:08
Hi Guys, I am re-posting this.
What is the closest (walking distance) and reasonably-priced (~$50 USD) hotel near Havana, please?
I used to stay at Executive Plaza in Malate for LA Cafe but now that LAC is closed I have to conduct my interviews somewhere else hehehehe.
Much obliged and happy horndogging!Check BSA mansion - just across Greenbelt.
WestCoast1
07-20-10, 05:07
Hi Guys, I am re-posting this.
What is the closest (walking distance) and reasonably-priced (~$50 USD) hotel near Havana, please?
I used to stay at Executive Plaza in Malate for LA Cafe but now that LAC is closed I have to conduct my interviews somewhere else hehehehe.
Much obliged and happy horndogging!There are several places right down Adriatico, walking from Havana to Robinsons, right on Adriatico. In the area also is Tropicana Apartments, City-State, Lotus Garden, and City Garden. All $45-$60.
Member #4698
07-20-10, 14:36
The only thing one can do in such situations is giving him or her (!) a smile while saying "no thanks, I'm fine", or "it's not my first time in the Philippines so I know this trick". And particularly no further conversation with these jerks! For me that worked out quite nicely!
This is excellent advice. I only want to add these additional points.
First, know in your mind that there is never anything these shills have to offer that is of any interest or worth your time investigating. To them you are a fish and they are trying to catch you in their net. Swim around the net. Never stop and get involved.
Second, you are not there to make friends with street hustlers. Never yell or lose you cool with them. Maintain your dignity and place in society. As a foreign tourist, you are millions of miles above them. (Is that politically incorrect? Tough.) Try to ignore them, but when accosted by these buggers follow Hesekiels advice and politely say "no thanks” and just walk on. If they persist and follow you, turn on them and firmly say "don't bother me “and then continue to walk away.
That should do it unless you are someplace you should not be. Which brings me to my third piece of advice; stay alert and always be aware of your surroundings.
Looks a lot like the guy who scammed me at Glorietta Mall a few weeks back, though I think his hair was shorter and he was wearing an orange shirt that looked similar to what the staff at my hotel was wearing.
I say we all pitch in and get the guy some more five fingered dental work.The SOB certainly needs to be taught a permanent lesson.
Speaking of scams (and I realize this belongs in the Ukrainian thread but I'm too lazy to post there...) there are many scammers posting on East European dating websites whose pictures are of drop-dead gorgeous young beauties who will correspond and send you sexy photos in some cases for months before they hit you up for money for translation services or even visa. These scammers are very clever. I was fooled for a while but then saw the same picture and letter on romancescam.com before any damage was done. They prey on lonely older guys who want a trophy wife on their arm. Beware!
Stick to face-to-face (or dick-to-face ;) in Asia or South America!
On my many visits to Manila and other cities in Philippines I have encountered all sorts of tactic how these guys try to earn something or just anything to feed their family. There is hardly anything they can do. There are just too many people looking for what little job is available. All these people we meet are desperate. They know that any foreigner is any time better off than them. They all expect a bit of handouts. Normally they don't rob you outright but in a round about manner so to speak. Bear in mind many of them are religious despite their hopeless situation. For example as you come out of your hotel a few people try you offer all sort of helps. Some will give you directions to the restaurant and accompany you up to the door, others try to wave a taxi for you, while others try to show the way to the bars. They expect some tips in the end. Just wave them away with polite thank you and walk faster. They will just drop off.
You will also note that while you are in the expensive bars such as Asian Entertainment, there will be guys trying to massage you while you are having drinks or even in the toilet expecting some tips. If you pity them just give them something. They are all desperate to feed their family. If you go to the bus terminal there are people who try to help you enter the bus and carry your luggage, also expecting tips. When will these scam of sort end? Probably when this country is economically better, but then you will not be able to get cheap pussy anymore as the girls will also have other jobs available. Enjoy while you can and be street at the same time.
... If you go to the bus terminal there are people who try to help you enter the bus and carry your luggage, also expecting tips. When will these scam of sort end? ...
Bundanko:
Indeed a good question!
Firstly, I would say that 'carrying our luggage' is a service that certainly deserves a tip!
Secondly, if somebody stops us a taxi - although we have told him 'nope man, I will do it myself' - I tend to doubt that tipping is really a must here.
Thirdly, if somebody just tells us the direction to the place we want to go, then IMHO a smile plus words like 'many thanks for your help' should be good enough!
Or am I grossly mistaken, gentlemen? Your opinions?
Cheers!
Hesekiels
On my many visits to Manila and other cities in Philippines I have encountered all sorts of tactic how these guys try to earn something or just anything to feed their family. There is hardly anything they can do. There are just too many people looking for what little job is available. All these people we meet are desperate. They know that any foreigner is any time better off than them. They all expect a bit of handouts. Normally they don't rob you outright but in a round about manner so to speak. Bear in mind many of them are religious despite their hopeless situation. For example as you come out of your hotel a few people try you offer all sort of helps. Some will give you directions to the restaurant and accompany you up to the door, others try to wave a taxi for you, while others try to show the way to the bars. They expect some tips in the end. Just wave them away with polite thank you and walk faster. They will just drop off.
You will also note that while you are in the expensive bars such as Asian Entertainment, there will be guys trying to massage you while you are having drinks or even in the toilet expecting some tips. If you pity them just give them something. They are all desperate to feed their family. If you go to the bus terminal there are people who try to help you enter the bus and carry your luggage, also expecting tips. When will these scam of sort end? Probably when this country is economically better, but then you will not be able to get cheap pussy anymore as the girls will also have other jobs available. Enjoy while you can and be street at the same time.
It is not only in poor countries people are looking for money. Have you gone to any casinoes in las vegas etc? Starting from house keeping to the door man is definitely looking for tips. In new york city everybody is looking for tips. Try getting a room boy help you to get a girl. Ofcourse he is looking for a tip. Not counting bartenders, waitresses and some guys on the street.
Many asian countries do not have tipping culture. Locals generally never tip and even if they do maybe 2%. So it is no wonder when locals see foreigners they see it as people who have money because of the strenghth of the dollar, pound, Yen etc. We tend to give tips because our currency goes a long way there.
Having said this it is not a good idea to give money to scammers who offer girls, want to take you to casas, try to sell you fake products. This will only encourage them to scam more.
But tipping, helping street kids, being generous is acceptable to help the poor people.
Member #3438
07-21-10, 00:30
Back in Manila now. Too much fun, must do it again soon. Flight leaves Wednesday night. Looking for my last shindig, might hit up Greenbelt 3 and chill at the Starbucks, seems like when Havana is busy, Starbucks is the place to be.
Saw an older Gent. Get turned down BIG the last time I was at Havana. He tried to make eye contact with a little sweetie, his hands started waving trying to tell her lets go back to my room. She gave him the dirtiest look and turned her chair away. 15 minutes later, she is me in the Taxi heading to a wild adventure.
Econo Tech
07-21-10, 02:46
Many asian countries do not have tipping culture. Locals generally never tip and even if they do maybe 2%. So it is no wonder when locals see foreigners they see it as people who have money because of the strenghth of the dollar, pound, Yen etc. We tend to give tips because our currency goes a long way there.I know I will get burnt for saying this, but come on - a few peso is not going to hurt, especially when you have travelled a few thousand kilometers .. :D :D
I limit my tips to max 50 peso .. if anybody wants more than that - too bad .. "WALANG PERA .. " even if some dare to call me kuripot ..
There are several places right down Adriatico, walking from Havana to Robinsons, right on Adriatico. In the area also is Tropicana Apartments, City-State, Lotus Garden, and City Garden. All $45-$60.That would be Havana in Malate, not Havana in Greenbelt.
Key Master
07-21-10, 07:51
There are several places right down Adriatico, walking from Havana to Robinsons, right on Adriatico. In the area also is Tropicana Apartments, City-State, Lotus Garden, and City Garden. All $45-$60.
I'm pretty sure as Denom has mentioned, that DCups is referring to Havana in Makati, not near Adriatico. DCups, if we are correct and you mean Havana at Greenbelt 3, then you are referring to Makati area and you can read more in the Makati thread. I'm not sure why you are insisting on walking from your hotel. You can actually still stay at Executive and taxi back and forth if you want to but it can take some time and will run about 100-150 pesos each way. There are hotels nearby but the prices are probably considerably higher than Executive. You may want to consider staying in Burgos area 50-70 pesos taxi ride each way to Greenbelt. I recommend you read the Makati thread and hotel thread for more info.
Guy Wif Attitude
07-21-10, 12:36
drinks / food bill at havana is expensive i agree. try the tequila sunset. its my fave. but the girls are not expensive. the most i've tipped is 2k for lt. the minimum was 1k. and i only go for the hottest. it generally takes me over an hour to find someone decent enough on a fri/sat nite, rest of the nights don't bother. very slim pickings. mainly older slightly worn out types.
key is to chat to as many peeps as possible outside at the tables especially. even ugly chicks have nice looking friends. its happened countless times to me in havana. you see the same chick the following night, but this time with a bunch of hotties in tow. and hey presto. its on. like donkey kong.
i couldn't stand la cafe by the way.
Ok, I have read the forum, but outside of the L.A. Cafe "Shut Down" there seems there is nothing of interest in this area. I have seen a few references to Amazonia..but nothing really good about. So what is there to do in Ermita or Malate?
Puerto La Cruz
07-22-10, 01:23
Ok, I have read the forum, but outside of the L.A. Cafe "Shut Down" there seems there is nothing of interest in this area. I have seen a few references to Amazonia..but nothing really good about. So what is there to do in Ermita or Malate?
Nope. Nothing good there. Stay away. You must not like to work very hard.
Nope. Nothing good there. Stay away. You must not like to work very hard.
Thanks for the information Pueto La Cruz, but I didn't quite understand your response. If there is nothing there say there is nothing there or suggest some other venues in the area. As far as "You must not like to work very hard" I didn't quite get that either, I am only staying in Manila one night before moving on to AC so anything that you could recommend would be appreciated.
Hello all,
I would like some advise on the mongering scene in Angeles City and Boracay in particular, its A first time trip there, where's the best place to pick up chicks in AC, and are there any parlours in AC were you can go directly and pick a chick also, without the hastle of buying drinks and BF etc. And also In Manilla, ideal bars there or the best pick up joint in the mongering scene. & could you advise me where's an ideal spot to get chicks, and also some massage palour or Casa, were you can pick up a cute babe, nice and quick without the hastle. Thanks alot guys, any advise would be great.
Blackangst
07-22-10, 19:57
Hello all,
I would like some advise on the mongering scene in Angeles City and Boracay in particular, its A first time trip there, where's the best place to pick up chicks in AC, and are there any parlours in AC were you can go directly and pick a chick also, without the hastle of buying drinks and BF etc. And also In Manilla, ideal bars there or the best pick up joint in the mongering scene. & could you advise me where's an ideal spot to get chicks, and also some massage palour or Casa, were you can pick up a cute babe, nice and quick without the hastle. Thanks alot guys, any advise would be great.
Sorry man, if you read the threads for these areas you will see AC, Manila, and Bora are not monger friendly.
/sarcasm
But, uh, if you spend a couple hours reading the threads, your questions will be answered.
AlLostInSpace13
07-23-10, 07:54
A month ago I was planning on a trip to Manila, but changed plans as soon as I found out LAC was closed, so I went to Bangkok instead...
Now reading postings from the last month, I've figured it out. LAC closing was to drive up the price. I think LAC was giving too good of a bang for buck, so the universe closed it down.
I would consider Manila to be on the expensive side before LAC closing. Guys, be ready to pay even more now.
Btw, do you guys know that BKK is on sale now? I'm sure you'll figure it out. Let the smaller head decide.
Spaceman
Now reading postings from the last month, I've figured it out. LAC closing was to drive up the price. I think LAC was giving too good of a bang for buck, so the universe closed it down.
ALIS13:
acutally I don't quite understand the logic behind! Certainly just my stupidity, but can you educate me a little!?
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Ok, I have read the forum, but outside of the L. A. Cafe "Shut Down" there seems there is nothing of interest in this area. I have seen a few references to Amazonia. But nothing really good about. So what is there to do in Ermita or Malate?Have you tried cowboygrill 2 blocks right from LAC.
Many girls (I think) want to move there.
South on Malate you find a lot of korean and japanese bars full of girls
- not our western style. And maybe not availeble for us. Because korean and japs pay a lot of money and prefair very white phils girls.
- thats one of the reason whyle phils like to push white skins.
Even they always are happy over my "whitening cream". Ordinary sun cream. Hehehehehehe
Me I lkied LAC because of his 1st floor. Very good music bands. Have been often there only to listened the bands.
Now only Nirvana offer this kind of bands but they don't have so much variety.
Hope that a new place of fun and music can open soon in manila.
- scared from the closing of roxas bvd animation I hope the city will alive soon. But the new politics is no more so friendly and open as bevor.
WestCoast1
07-24-10, 03:36
Now reading postings from the last month, I've figured it out. LAC closing was to drive up the price. I think LAC was giving too good of a bang for buck, so the universe closed it down.
I would consider Manila to be on the expensive side before LAC closing. Guys, be ready to pay even more now.
SpacemanSpace, friend of mine is staying in Malate. He reports LAC closed. GPoint dead midweek, but still hopping on weekends. Also other bars in the area (amazonia, cowboy, southern cross) have picked up girls. Prices for him are what I paid a year ago, 500-2000 depending. I'm there next week I'll chime in then.
Rubio Tonto
07-24-10, 18:10
It's a ten minute taxi ride from Malate/Ermita. You'll have to pay a barfine plus a tip, but it's still a lot less than what you'll pay in a Western country and you'll get a lot more bang for the buck.
AlLostInSpace13
07-24-10, 22:22
Space, friend of mine is staying in Malate. He reports LAC closed. GPoint dead midweek, but still hopping on weekends. Also other bars in the area (amazonia, cowboy, southern cross) have picked up girls. Prices for him are what I paid a year ago, 500-2000 depending. I'm there next week I'll chime in then.
Thanks for posters like Westcoast1. Because for a long time after the demise of LAC, I felt pressure from the forum to turn to HAV Makati, which is not quite the monger equivalent of LAC - cheap & plentiful. No offense to the Koreans or Japanese, but I refuse to pay a premium for pussies.
I am planning a trip to SEA, so my eyes will be glued to this thread for LAC replacements.
Spaceman
I came across this place on the internet recently and wondered if anyone has tried it? Its in Malate.
http://www.tropicanasuites.com.ph/more_rooms.php?room_type=2&category=One Bedroom Suites
I thought I had pretty good knowledge of what was available there and I usually stay at Bayview basically for location and small swimming pool. But this Tropicana looks even better with a nice size pool. Any feed back would be appreciated.
Cheers
I am really going to miss my obligatory afternoon beers in LA cafe on my return trip in September. Anyone know if this place is shut for good or is there a glimmer of hope that the usual bribes will facilatate a quick reopen?
Kinda surprised its still apparently closed.
WestCoast1
07-25-10, 00:58
I came across this place on the internet recently and wondered if anyone has tried it? Its in Malate.
http://www.tropicanasuites.com.ph/more_rooms.php?room_type=2&category=One Bedroom Suites
I thought I had pretty good knowledge of what was available there and I usually stay at Bayview basically for location and small swimming pool. But this Tropicana looks even better with a nice size pool. Any feed back would be appreciated.
CheersThe pool is olympic size, beautiful. The trop is an actual apartment, rented by many locals. Have stayed there often. Not all of the smaller studio's have a room safe (luck of the draw, they will not reserve one that has a safe for you in advance). All of the suites have a safe. Kind of spartan apartments, wood floors, simple double-bed. In the suites, aircon is only in the bedroom, not in the living room/kitchen area. A bit pricey for Malate (price does not include vat tax, but does include a mediocre breakfast). Buddy of mine recently tried to book a room, but they were full for over a week out, so book early. Its a 1-minute walk to Robinsons mall. Its on a street adjacent to Pedro Gil, and can be hard to get a taxi at night after 9pm. Just outsided the front door to the right, heading to Pedro Gil, is a restraunt, sari sari, and laundry. Keep walking to Pedro Gil, turn left, one block to the mall. Turn right and 3 blocks to the LRT.
GoodEnough
07-25-10, 01:47
I am really going to miss my obligatory afternoon beers in LA cafe on my return trip in September. Anyone know if this place is shut for good or is there a glimmer of hope that the usual bribes will facilatate a quick reopen?
Kinda surprised its still apparently closed.
I think it's going to stay closed for quite a while. That great moral crusader, saver of damsels in distress, and aging hypocrite, Mayor Lim, has apparently made this a cause celebre and seems determined to keep the doors shut. Rumor has it that the owners of LA made the egregious mistake of contributing heavily to the political campaign of Lim's rival during the recent mayoral election.
GE
I think it's going to stay closed for quite a while. That great moral crusader, saver of damsels in distress, and aging hypocrite, Mayor Lim, has apparently made this a cause celebre and seems determined to keep the doors shut. Rumor has it that the owners of LA made the egregious mistake of contributing heavily to the political campaign of Lim's rival during the recent mayoral election.
GE
Sounds like the mayor has his panties in a knot over LA Cafe. Boy that has to be hurting the hotels and such?
I personally like Amazonia but without LA Cafe there, one less reason to stop over in Manila.
I came across this place on the internet recently and wondered if anyone has tried it? Its in Malate.
http://www.tropicanasuites.com.ph/more_rooms.php?room_type=2&category=One Bedroom Suites
I thought I had pretty good knowledge of what was available there and I usually stay at Bayview basically for location and small swimming pool. But this Tropicana looks even better with a nice size pool. Any feed back would be appreciated.
Cheers
Great place to stay and a great location. Book your room in advance though.
I came across this place on the internet recently and wondered if anyone has tried it? Its in Malate.
http://www.tropicanasuites.com.ph/more_rooms.php?room_type=2&category=One Bedroom Suites
I thought I had pretty good knowledge of what was available there and I usually stay at Bayview basically for location and small swimming pool. But this Tropicana looks even better with a nice size pool. Any feed back would be appreciated.
Cheers
Check the FAQ on the website. Overnight guests are charged around 700 pesos. So it is not girl friendly free.
Better stay in GF hotels if you are mongering. This place is Ok if you are checking in with a girl and the girl stays with you the whole time.
I came across this place on the internet recently and wondered if anyone has tried it? Its in Malate.
http://www.tropicanasuites.com.ph/more_rooms.php?room_type=2&category=One Bedroom Suites
I thought I had pretty good knowledge of what was available there and I usually stay at Bayview basically for location and small swimming pool. But this Tropicana looks even better with a nice size pool. Any feed back would be appreciated.
CheersI stayed there years ago. Rooms are big but not really nice. It certainly is not a four star hotel! It also is relatively remote from the interesting spots if you walk. I would not go back there if I can help it. OTOH, it's near Robinson.
Cunning Stunt
07-26-10, 07:18
Rumor has it that the owners of LA made the egregious mistake of contributing heavily to the political campaign of Lim's rival during the recent mayoral election.
If true it sounds like someone really backed the wrong horse! More fool them. Why not concentrate on running their bar and keep their greedy fingers out of the murky cesspool of local politics.
If LA Cafe does eventually reopen, presumably under new management, I hope that they will spend a little money on cleaning and refitting the place. It sure needed it. It was the sort of place that you wiped your feet on leaving:). Suspect that it hadn't been properly cleaned in years (if ever!).
Sounds like the mayor has his panties in a knot over LA Cafe. Boy that has to be hurting the hotels and such?
I personally like Amazonia but without LA Cafe there, one less reason to stop over in Manila.
Recently stayed in Manila for 5 days at Cherry Blossoms (skip it, City Park Tower much better for same price). Mostly went to Amazonia and Greenbelt. And while I was there of course I got to talking with the local pinay about LAC. The overall consensus from the girls was that they miss it also.
Don't get me wrong, Amazonia is nice with a bar like atmosphere and the ST rooms upstairs (800 peso for 2 girls for 3 hours), but I miss the point and click type situation of LAC. Any time of the day or night just walk in and pick up a girl and take her back to your room. That was a nice option.
And yes the hotels must be hurting some because I personally did not stay over there because LAC was closed. In fact, when I had my buddy take me by there looking for a hotel in early July, it looked like someone had gotten shot in the middle of the street. Guy was lying face down, police all around, big crowd gathered, etc...we just kept on driving.
..........It was the sort of place that you wiped your feet on leaving:)........
LMFAO.
A very nice line indeed Stunning errr Cunning.
Mind if I borrow it? I will ensure all citations are in place.
GoodEnough
07-26-10, 12:40
If LA Cafe does eventually reopen, presumably under new management, I hope that they will spend a little money on cleaning and refitting the place. It sure needed it. It was the sort of place that you wiped your feet on leaving:). Suspect that it hadn't been properly cleaned in years (if ever!).
I don't think that any vacuum cleaner or detergent ever made is strong enough to get ride of the decades of grime but of course the sleaziness and filth was part of its unsavory charm. It sort of fit in with the general character of the neighborhood.
GE
Econo Tech
07-27-10, 06:04
If true it sounds like someone really backed the wrong horse! More fool them. Why not concentrate on running their bar and keep their greedy fingers out of the murky cesspool of local politicsNot at all. Nobody does business in Philippines without political connection, or else, the politicians will insist on being 'partners'.
How do you think they raise the 120 million peso or so for the mayoral election?
Somebody told me. If you want to survive. You got to run a low key operation. The moment it become a bit visible, people will insist that you make them partners. Or else.
BTW, same goes for most other Asian countries. Except where I live.
I don't think that any vacuum cleaner or detergent ever made is strong enough to get ride of the decades of grime but of course the sleaziness and filth was part of its unsavory charm. It sort of fit in with the general character of the neighborhood.
GEThey could always sanitize the place with Bleach.
This seems to work wonders everywhere else.
I just got back from the G-Point, and had a few beers with a European x-pat, who runs a local business and who claims that the LA Cafe will open this coming Friday. He was quite certain that the bribes had been paid and the visibility level adjusted appropriately.
After the G-Point closed, research moved on to the Amazonia for a few more, where the (pushy!) ladies say that it will open within a month.
All authoritatively true.
I just got back from the G-Point, and had a few beers with a European x-pat, who runs a local business and who claims that the LA Cafe will open this coming Friday. He was quite certain that the bribes had been paid and the visibility level adjusted appropriately.
After the G-Point closed, research moved on to the Amazonia for a few more, where the (pushy!) ladies say that it will open within a month.
All authoritatively true.Hope it's true, I'm scheduled to be there in September and will be sad if they remain shut down.
Have a six night stay booked at the Hyatt.
Thanks everyone for the other options suggested.
Mongrinastrlnd
07-28-10, 11:13
I've RTFF already but data on it seems somewhat dated.
What's the going price for Vitamin V on the street in P.Burgos?
I just got back from the G-Point, and had a few beers with a European x-pat, who runs a local business and who claims that the LA Cafe will open this coming Friday. He was quite certain that the bribes had been paid and the visibility level adjusted appropriately.
After the G-Point closed, research moved on to the Amazonia for a few more, where the (pushy!) ladies say that it will open within a month.
All authoritatively true.That is good news.
If someone is going to Rogues on Burgos, i believe the owners are the same for Rogues and LA Cafe....you could get the scoop there as well.
Also for your info, i was in Sabang at the club - "Venus" and they happened to mention that they have the same owners as LA Cafe also...i enquired at both places about reopening and was told they "dont know"
Wicked Roger
07-29-10, 00:44
I've RTFF already but data on it seems somewhat dated.
What's the going price for Vitamin V on the street in P.Burgos?
Well Manta Ray recently cornered the market on this :D (see a recent FR on his his buying a drawer fiull of energy pills)
Seriously dont pay more than say 200 pesos for a box of 4, but tell them you will pay 1000 pesos for 6 boxes.
FreebieFan
07-29-10, 01:18
Not at all. Nobody does business in Philippines without political connection, or else, the politicians will insist on being 'partners'.
How do you think they raise the 120 million peso or so for the mayoral election?
Somebody told me. If you want to survive. You got to run a low key operation. The moment it become a bit visible, people will insist that you make them partners. Or else.
BTW, same goes for most other Asian countries. Except where I live.Then you must live in Singapore... because for sure in Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, China, India, Thailand and Malaysia every politico wants a piece a successfully run company.
Well Manta Ray recently cornered the market on this :D (see a recent FR on his his buying a drawer fiull of energy pills)
Seriously dont pay more than say 200 pesos for a box of 4, but tell them you will pay 1000 pesos for 6 boxes.Many of the vitamin V sold on the street are fake but if you can get them at 200, that would be damn cheap and you could test one at least before the deed to avoid bad surprises.
Wicked Roger
07-29-10, 05:32
Many of the vitamin V sold on the street are fake but if you can get them at 200, that would be damn cheap and you could test one at least before the deed to avoid bad surprises.
The ones around Oxford Suites are OK and have the same chemical formula as many guys I know buy friom there...and I am not dead yet :D Prices are correct and will confirm soon as well when am there
FF when are you next in PI as we need a seriuos meeting of the pussy..I swap mine for yours and vice versa, both in schoolie uniforms of course :D
Econo Tech
07-29-10, 07:04
Then you must live in Singapore... because for sure in Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, China, India, Thailand and Malaysia every politico wants a piece a successfully run company.Clever boy - you got ten brownie points.
FreebieFan
07-29-10, 09:43
The ones around Oxford Suites are OK and have the same chemical formula as many guys I know buy friom there. And I am not dead yet Prices are correct and will confirm soon as well when am there
FF when are you next in PI as we need a seriuos meeting of the pussy. I swap mine for yours and vice versa, both in schoolie uniforms of courseOf course Sir. Actually I found a shop here with maids uniforms, Sailor moon, and a whole set of other fantastic and fantasy related items., as well as the schoolies. Perversion is great. I'm there in August!
Many of the vitamin V sold on the street are fake but if you can get them at 200, that would be damn cheap and you could test one at least before the deed to avoid bad surprises.I would advise you to skip this street stuff all together. You can walk across Makati Ave from Burgos to one of the legitimate pharmacies and buy the real stuff. It will cost i think 800 php for 4 pills, but you at least you know it is real. I cant imagine anything worse than finding out when you are in the sack with a lbfm that you dont have any wood in your bat!
Wicked Roger
07-29-10, 23:49
Of course Sir. Actually I found a shop here with maids uniforms, Sailor moon, and a whole set of other fantastic and fantasy related items., as well as the schoolies. Perversion is great. I'm there in August!
Interesting my evil twin :D Perversion is great fun and so rewarding.....in many ways :)
Keep in touch FF as could be there for a long weekend
Viajando Musico
07-30-10, 01:47
Then you must live in Singapore... because for sure in Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, China, India, Thailand and Malaysia every politico wants a piece a successfully run company.
Politicians are the same everywhere. I don't think they are any different in Singapore, maybe to a lesser degree. Even here in the US, Corrupted politician lay their hands on many monopolized business or enjoy previledge and convenience to conduct their business unknow to gerenal public.
Econo Tech
07-30-10, 07:37
Politicians are the same everywhere. I don't think they are any different in Singapore, maybe to a lesser degree. Even here in the US, Corrupted politician lay their hands on many monopolized business or enjoy previledge and convenience to conduct their business unknow to gerenal public.Before anybody calls a thread drift, I guess you haven't read much about Singapore I guess.
Let me put it in a nutshell: when a politician in India/Philippines or so and so gets paid a token amount as salary, they are more than encouraged to recoup their expenses by corruption. (example. Nobody asks Mayor Lim. Who shut down LA Cafe. Where he got the 120 million peso for his election campaign as per his own words that is how much it cost him for his election. About 3 mILLION us?)
Unlike in Singapore. Where, despite a minority not approving, the founding father made sure Ministers and MPs get enough pay they don't get tempted to dip into public money. Just Google for "highest paid head of state" or "highest paid Prime minister".
An extract:
It was announced today (26/10/2007) that the Taoiseach (Prime Minister) of the Republic of Ireland, Bertie Ahern, is to receive a pay increase of €38, 000, bringing his salary to a whopping €310, 000! That has got to be up there among the highest. At least in Europe!
"Singapore's politicians, already among the best paid in the world, will get a salary hike next year with Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong enjoying a 21 percent rise to 3. 76 million Singapore dollars ($2. 6 million), " Reuters
President SR Nathan will receive 3. 87 million Singapore dollars next year, while members of parliament, most of whom hold full-time jobs outside politics, will get an allowance of 225, 000 Singapore dollars a year.
* George Bush is paid $400, 000 a year, while his No. 2, Dick Cheney, pulls down $208, 575.
* Gordon Brown gets $375, 000.
* Nicolas Sarkozy draws $346, 000.
* Angela Merkel is paid $318, 000.
* Putin's official salary is $81, 000.
No comments. And let's get back to the subject
As for the Vitamin V and C, I would not buy anything from the street vendors. A friend of mine did buy something with some 'tadanafil' additive, and when he reached Singapore, he was warded for hyper tension.
And enough of scams. When you are buying a cop turns up and checks to see your content is "SHABU" and try talking your way out of it.
Soapy Smith
07-30-10, 17:30
I just got back from the G-Point, and had a few beers with a European x-pat, who runs a local business and who claims that the LA Cafe will open this coming Friday. He was quite certain that the bribes had been paid and the visibility level adjusted appropriately.
After the G-Point closed, research moved on to the Amazonia for a few more, where the (pushy!) ladies say that it will open within a month.
All authoritatively true.
Authoritative truth from Filipinos -- or from Ex-Pats who depend on Filipino sources of information -- often suffers from over-enthusiasm, exaggeration, wishful thinking, and so on. And so it is in this case.
I walked by at about 9 pm Friday (the 30th). LAC was definitely not open. My squeeze knew one Filipino standing in front of the place, supposedly a former manager at LAC. "We will be open next week," he told us. I didn't bother to ask which day, assuming the answer would be about as authoritative as "it's up to you."
Having walked the Ermita and Malate streets quite a bit over the last two weeks, I'd say the closure has cut down considerably on middle aged Western male tourists in the area. G-Point and Amazonia are busy, but their increased business and those that may have moved to Robinson's mall to monger do not add up to the lost traffic that typically circulates through LAC.
Howdy Mongers,
In Manila the next couple of weeks, anyone keen on catching up over a beer and some action?
I caught up with a couple of members last time around when I was in Manila and had an absolutely rocking time. Drop me a line if anyone is keen.
Check the FAQ on the website. Overnight guests are charged around 700 pesos. So it is not girl friendly free.
I have stayed at the Tropicana many times over the years (last year included), and I was never charged a "joiner fee." I think what you are seeing on their web site is a p750 fee for an extra bed/guest.
If anyone is that concerned, call the hotel and ask for Linda, the reservations manager; she would certainly know.
I don't like Manila mainly due to the traffic and the shear size of the megapolis so I usually fly direct to angeles and stay there.
In Manila I have been to EDSA, Makati (P Burgos) and Malate back in the day.
Next time in PI I would like to spend more time in Manila but would like to try some different areas. Is there anything like Burgos elswhere? Few bars on the same street or walking distance? Few post mention Greenbelt and Quizon City is there something like Burgos there?
It would be great if we can somehow get a map of places to visit something similar to Warsaw in the polish forum. Now that would be worth gold.
Has anyone been here? I have not visited this place yet but I would like some feedback. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Red
Econo Tech
08-03-10, 07:12
Next time in PI I would like to spend more time in Manila but would like to try some different areas. Is there anything like Burgos elswhere? Few bars on the same street or walking distance? Few post mention Greenbelt and Quizon City is there something like Burgos there?QC has some bars, I stepped into Classmate, and was not tempted as the girls either wanted 2, 000 to turn up in the room, or 5,000 to be taken away on the spot. I don't trust the 'advance booking' systems.
Google for Classmate at QC
As for Greenbelt, it is upmarket NOT A PICK UP PLACE, EXCEPT HAVANAS. More than enough times I have seen some silly stuff there where guys walked up to a girl and then in a minute or so security turns up.
In Greenbelt, unless you are Bradd Pitt. Stick to Havanas or eye ball those girls who show interest.
BTW, Greenbelt does have some lady boys wandering around. Be a bit careful.
Lil Buckaroo
08-03-10, 08:22
Next time in PI I would like to spend more time in Manila but would like to try some different areas. Is there anything like Burgos elswhere? Few bars on the same street or walking distance? Few post mention Greenbelt and Quizon City is there something like Burgos there?I have been to some bar areas in Cubao with lots of strip clubs and the like, but I really do not recommend this part of town. The bars are for locals, and it is among the more dangerous areas of Manila. Even for locals.
I think that the standard areas that we all know and love (well, I love) are your best bet. Getting mugged is not fun (been there, done that). Suggest that for some novelty, you may want to try Cebu.
It's nice, Red. They have fish bowls on the different levels you can pick from. I had a real nice one who gave me a soapy massage and slithered her luscious soapy boobs all over my body and then banged me for about $30 U.S. as I recall. There's another one nearby called Star Fleet I think. These are good places to go if you have a layover in Manila and your baggage is already checked. It's only about 10 or 15 minutes from the airport. Google them. I'll definitely go back although you can find a cheaper place. They are open 24/7 as I recall.
Has anyone been here? I have not visited this place yet but I would like some feedback. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Red
Been there a number of times as I sometimes be with a big group of people
So easy have a afternoon fun or as manila trafic is no nice and you need to pick up some one from the airport and you are early or go early and have some fun and be at the airport on time. Guess it opens noon.
Quality not outstanding but duable price for f class room high but jaccuzi and sauna in the room. The one thing pissed me of after you chosed your girl you be guided to the room than 3 diffrent people comeing shoeshine / drinks / and what ever befor the girl and they all wanne tip. So I usaly say to the guy "Pilot" no shoe shine no other people to my room exept the girl otherwise I will go asap.
If you have time and you have a hotel no need to go if you have late flight ex mnl and you wanne shower befor your long flight good option to boarding your plain triple emty and showered, but MNL airport is no nice airport so you swetting befor you be at your gate!
Be happy LAC open again?
Globe Spinner
08-04-10, 23:55
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A lady friend told me this morning LA Cafe is open...
Econo and Lil thanks for your responses. Lol I actually thought Greenbelt was a street or area rather then a club. Thanks for clearing that up for me, I would have assumed that it is something like LA Cafe otherwise. Maybe I will check it out with a girl in tow for the first time and then decide if it is my thing or not... I just don't think I will have the patience for games especially not in PI.
Lil I think I will try Cebu next time... I hear great things about the city and I do like the darker philipinas from there.
Pitty there is nothing else in Manila I do have week to kill in October but then again if the La Cafe has reopened that may solve the problem...
Once again thanks for the responses and may the mongering goods be always with you
Big Poppa II
08-05-10, 03:06
Yesterday morning I went to the Resort World casino to kill some time. After a few minutes of walking around the slot machines area I bumped in a very cute girl. We both smile and started to chat, as it turned out she was working and we came to my room next door in the Marriott. After negotiations we settle in 2K. She was very beautiful, 23, nice body and I had a good time. I got the impression that there more than one providers in the floor. Just passing the info in case someone is staying in the area.
I would like to stop by EDSA Entertainment Cenanother site but since I work nights is difficult to make the time, does anyone know the hours they are open?
Thanks,
BP
Econo and Lil thanks for your responses. Lol I actually thought Greenbelt was a street or area rather then a club. Thanks for clearing that up for me, I would have assumed that it is something like LA Cafe otherwise.
It's not a club as far as I am aware, but Greenbelt is a series of interconnected shopping malls, bars and restaurants located in Makati.
Havana Cafe is located in there also!
Its quite close to the Penninsular Hotel if you want to google it!
Worth a visit, but not with your wallet and/or your girl in tow, otherwise it might prove expensive! lol!
It's nice, Red. They have fish bowls on the different levels you can pick from. I had a real nice one who gave me a soapy massage and slithered her luscious soapy boobs all over my body and then banged me for about $30 U.S. as I recall. There's another one nearby called Star Fleet I think. These are good places to go if you have a layover in Manila and your baggage is already checked. It's only about 10 or 15 minutes from the airport. Google them. I'll definitely go back although you can find a cheaper place. They are open 24/7 as I recall.Thank you for the feeback mate.
I will also look into Star Fleet.
Manko Hunter
08-06-10, 13:54
Has anyone been here? I have not visited this place yet but I would like some feedback. Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
RedYeah I was there last night. Amazing place. The massage fishbowl located inside is called Flight 168. The girls are top notch. 2500 P for the room, 2000 for the girl (or vice-versa, I forget) At any rate, I picked a lovely little thing named Shelby (stage name) she was #35. We must've been in the room for upwards of 2 hours. Gave me a great oil massage, shower together, best part was she talked dirty like a little Asian porn star. Knew all the right things to say.
Overall I'd say if you're rolling solo, and are looking for no hassle GFE, legit massage with perks, then head there, you won't be disappointed.
Oh, I forgot to mention they have an attached KTV and a pretty nice lounge.
If anyone is in Malate could you kindly confirm? I'd like to make reservations at Executive Plaza if there is good news :). Thanks.
I was in Malate this evening and I can confirm that LAC is still closed. I have no idea when (or if) it will re-open.
I also stopped into G-Point and Amazonia a bit earlier this eve (around 8pm). GP seemed pretty much the same as it was when LAC was open. However, Amazonia did appear to be busier than before, with quite a few more gals there. They no doubt have just shifted from LAC to there until LAC re-opens.
Manta Ray
It's looking like reports of the LA Cafe reopening are going to be like Elvis sightings.
To anyone who would actually decide to come to Manila or not to come on the basis of one place being open or not, I'd suggest that it's a big, big city with almost infinite mongering opportunities. Yes, LA Cafe was cheap and easy, but there's a whole lot more out there. Time to move on.
Starchild2012
08-07-10, 06:51
It's looking like reports of the LA Cafe reopening are going to be like Elvis sightings.
To anyone who would actually decide to come to Manila or not to come on the basis of one place being open or not, I'd suggest that it's a big, big city with almost infinite mongering opportunities. Yes, LA Cafe was cheap and easy, but there's a whole lot more out there. Time to move on.
LOL Betong, :D well said....Man..Manila is soo F***cking huge....there are 100 other places where one can have fun...it would be great if LA cafe comes back...but that should not let one down on other activities...
It's looking like reports of the LA Cafe reopening are going to be like Elvis sightings.
To anyone who would actually decide to come to Manila or not to come on the basis of one place being open or not, I'd suggest that it's a big, big city with almost infinite mongering opportunities. Yes, LA Cafe was cheap and easy, but there's a whole lot more out there. Time to move on.
To comment on some earlier posts, those guys who think that the hotels around Malate rely on sex tourists (and LAC being open) are delusional. There is a very large tour operator market there and it is going along nicely. Check out the huge tourist buses that pull up in the Pedro Gil entrance to Robinson's Mall in Malate at the weekends. The tourists are mixed races, mainly white, but there seems to be more Korean buses too these days, and these people are housed locally.
To follow up on Betong's post - if you think that all freelancers in Manila rely on LAC for their livelihood then you are wrong. Only a very small percentage of women in Manila and surrounds were involved with LAC.
I have met literally dozens of women in the past couple of years who have NEVER heard of LAC and have no idea where it is or what is (was).
Please don't start lecturing me about how "they will tell me whatever I want to hear" either - I am not that silly.
Econo Tech
08-07-10, 10:20
To comment on some earlier posts, those guys who think that the hotels around Malate rely on sex tourists (and LAC being open) are delusional. There is a very large tour operator market there and it is going along nicely. Check out the huge tourist buses that pull up in the Pedro Gil entrance to Robinson's Mall in Malate at the weekends. The tourists are mixed races, mainly white, but there seems to be more Korean buses too these days, and these people are housed locally.I got to agree.
To be honest, on my first visit to Manila about 10 years ago, I was told to stay in Makati. When I said I am a budget traveller. The filipinos in my office all said "then look for hotels in Malate"
And true it was and till today, it is.
Malate has some of the cheapest hotels, and even my regular haunt. Mabini Mansion. Gets booked with a lot of tour groups. So much so when I am on my out travels, I have to call and remind them every day to keep me the room for my return. Or else, upon my return, they don't have any rooms.
Makati is pricey, and clean. Malate is cheap and good enough for those.
IN my experience, I am not in Manila for hooking, and spend less than 1/4th my time for that. The rest are for meeting friends in QC, Alabang, and Makati etc. Malate always suited me.
I am coming to Manila for the big poker tournament at Resorts World.
Is there any action available there?
Econo Tech
08-08-10, 12:04
I am coming to Manila for the big poker tournament at Resorts World.
Is there any action available there?At RW? I heard of some girls hanging around, but all I saw is the long queue for food and didn't entice me. But some guys mentioned they had some luck
If you are asking about Manila overall. This thread has enough info.
Or you can start with Air Force 1 at Pasay itself.
Update as of 31st July, LAC is still closed. Word on the street it that it could take months before it reopens. All the action has shifted to Amazonia.
Starchild2012
08-10-10, 13:29
To comment on some earlier posts, those guys who think that the hotels around Malate rely on sex tourists (and LAC being open) are delusional. There is a very large tour operator market there and it is going along nicely. Check out the huge tourist buses that pull up in the Pedro Gil entrance to Robinson's Mall in Malate at the weekends. The tourists are mixed races, mainly white, but there seems to be more Korean buses too these days, and these people are housed locally.
To follow up on Betong's post - if you think that all freelancers in Manila rely on LAC for their livelihood then you are wrong. Only a very small percentage of women in Manila and surrounds were involved with LAC.
I have met literally dozens of women in the past couple of years who have NEVER heard of LAC and have no idea where it is or what is (was).
Please don't start lecturing me about how "they will tell me whatever I want to hear" either - I am not that silly.
Agree with that....I think we have this image in mind about Philippines being an island and how big a city Manila would be....Being from a third world country myself (India) and living in one of the most populated metros in the world ( mumbai)..i had thought how big Manila could be....i could just hop into burgus st. then to edsa complex and then if time permits go to LA cafe...man i had no idea how far each place is to one another.
The same thing happened to me in Pattaya.....i only had names of bars which i read in forums...i had no idea what was in store for me....it just blew my mind seeing the number of bars in Pattaya...i was just in awe...there was so much to do....the same applies for Manila or any other cities.
Just go out and explore.....you will be surprised how much Manila has to offer.
Update as of 31st July, LAC is still closed. Word on the street it that it could take months before it reopens. All the action has shifted to Amazonia.
Still true as of 10 minutes ago! Amazonia was busier last night at 8-00 than I have seen it at any time. G-point was, well, disappointing. P1000 got me what I needed from Amazonia for about an hour or so.
Headed back there now!
I am coming to Manila for the big poker tournament at Resorts World.
Is there any action available there?
You mean they do not supply girls at Poke-Her tournament?
There are plenty of info about Manila here. You will never have to use your Poker hand in Manila!
Starchild2012
08-10-10, 17:01
You mean they do not supply girls at Poke-Her tournament?
There are plenty of info about Manila here. You will never have to use your Poker hand in Manila!
LOL good one :D
Anybody got an address for amazonia??? Looked on previous posts and didn't find it or else missed it. Possible directions from LAC wouls also help.
thanks
Blackangst
08-10-10, 22:07
Anybody got an address for amazonia??? Looked on previous posts and didn't find it or else missed it. Possible directions from LAC wouls also help.
thanks
Its on the corner of Sta Monica and Mar. del Pilar...about one block north of LAC. if walking out of LAC you would take a left (against traffic if I remember) go one block and go right. It will be right after that.
Many thanks for the directions.
Its on the corner of Sta Monica and Mar. del Pilar...about one block north of LAC. if walking out of LAC you would take a left (against traffic if I remember) go one block and go right. It will be right after that.If exiting La Cafe , yes turn left and yes walk against the MH Delpilar traffic flow , Amazonia is on the corner of the very first street on your right , 2/3 mins walk.
FreebieFan
08-12-10, 06:30
This post has no relevance to any of the previous posts or indeed to this particular section of ISG, but had to do the dreaded blood test recently. Had to sign the HIV disclaimer form and agree to counselling if found to be positive.
Spent past few nights thinking about all the girls in past 18 months since last test, and theres been a lot.
Generally been playing safe but an occasional drunken bonk sans cover could have and probably did happen. And then there was that time in Jakarta. And that time and that smokin hot girl in Bangkok and that cute girl in Alabang and that high class lady from Orchard towers and and and. And you get the picture.
So with some trepidation walked into the Pathology lab place and collected the closed folder with my HIV status and other medical updates. Did the receptionist look at me with sympathy, was she staring at me, was it a cheerful smile she said goodbye to me with to soften the blow.
Got the folder and faced the dilemna of " shall I look now or later"
Now damnit. And there is big shining typed letter was NON REACTIVE I and II AB by Elosa.
Safe again!. Pheww. Been doing these tests for years now but every time I do them I end up a nervous wreck!
Ah well, now that I'm safe, I think its time to go and test the waters again!
Practically impossible to find a job of profession in the Philippines for foreigners what with that 6th something negative list passed and with only minority stakes in businesses, earning a paid income over there is for the few. Of course there's the retired on pensions, but that's decades away for me ...gotta love protectionism! :D So looks like I have to save up funds! Though there's always marriage ..0_o maybe not!
I plan on staying there for a several months to a year, and would really appreciate those residing in Manila giving me their opinion on expenses. There's a similar Q a few months back, but it's related to Cebu, which I'm certain is much different to Manila.
An idea of myself is, single, no dependents, not into barfining, just dating :D
So I guess 4 areas of expenses is where I need help:
Rent - Not a mansion, but not a hole! Somewhere decent too (still fuzzy on which part of Manila I would settle on, ideas welcome? Near where the nightlife is I suppose), looking on many sites including this one, 20,000p pm seems about right for a good apartment?
Food - I can eat local stuff and I've been to uni so I know how to eat on a budget! I can microwave really well '_^
Utilities - no idea, 10,000p pm?
Misc - cell, cable, internet, (I have my own laptop), taking girls out ..maybe 10,000p pm?
I dunno, I'm certain I'm way off for Manila, but I arrived at 50,000p pm ...as I said I would be really appreciative for any responses!
To the Manila Experts....somewhere in the forum I read possibilities to purchase Viagra in Manila...no I cannot find it...can someone help? Can one purchase from Pharmacy as in Hong Kong?
What are the going rate for ST and LT? Have upcoming trip and don't want to "spoil" the market"
Thanks for feedback - firebird
To the Manila Experts....somewhere in the forum I read possibilities to purchase Viagra in Manila...no I cannot find it...can someone help? Can one purchase from Pharmacy as in Hong Kong?
What are the going rate for ST and LT? Have upcoming trip and don't want to "spoil" the market"
Thanks for feedback - firebirdI have also tried the Cialis and Viagra that they sell at P Burgos Street, Makati for about 4 boxes for 1,000 pesos best deal I have got.
Seemed to work for me but like any medication, buyer beware and read the online information as to whether you might be prone to adverse reactions.
Starchild2012
08-14-10, 15:38
Practically impossible to find a job of profession in the Philippines for foreigners what with that 6th something negative list passed and with only minority stakes in businesses, earning a paid income over there is for the few. Of course there's the retired on pensions, but that's decades away for me ...gotta love protectionism! :D So looks like I have to save up funds! Though there's always marriage ..0_o maybe not!
I plan on staying there for a several months to a year, and would really appreciate those residing in Manila giving me their opinion on expenses. There's a similar Q a few months back, but it's related to Cebu, which I'm certain is much different to Manila.
An idea of myself is, single, no dependents, not into barfining, just dating :D
So I guess 4 areas of expenses is where I need help:
Rent - Not a mansion, but not a hole! Somewhere decent too (still fuzzy on which part of Manila I would settle on, ideas welcome? Near where the nightlife is I suppose), looking on many sites including this one, 20,000p pm seems about right for a good apartment?
Food - I can eat local stuff and I've been to uni so I know how to eat on a budget! I can microwave really well '_^
Utilities - no idea, 10,000p pm?
Misc - cell, cable, internet, (I have my own laptop), taking girls out ..maybe 10,000p pm?
I dunno, I'm certain I'm way off for Manila, but I arrived at 50,000p pm ...as I said I would be really appreciative for any responses!
It may come as a surprise but renting a condo in Manila is cheaper than Cebu. I have lived in both cities and Manila offers greater regular dating scene...Cebu is good for bar hoping, bars girls are better in Cebu than Manila for the amount you pay....quality of bar girls in Cebu is better than Manila....i know it is different than what we expect.....but it is the reality...May be due to korean and japanese customers more in Cebu.
Nightlife is better in Cebu if you are into young crowds...However, if you are in regular dating scene..Manila would beat Cebu anyday.
You don't want to work in PH man :), I was fired from two jobs when i was in Cebu. I just couldn't keep up. If you coming to PH just come for fun sake...stay here for one year...enjoy your hearts out and go back make some money and come back again. Unless you have a freelancing internet work, where 9-5 hours is no issue...you can work from your condo in PH.
Rent >> You will get a decent 1 Bedroom Hall kitchen condo fully furnished in Mandaluyong, Pasig etc places for 10,000 pesos.
WARNING** Beware of the Nigerian scammers in craigslist, they will promise you a better 4 bedroom condo for 10,000 and ask money upfront with some excuse.....Just goto some agent or adpost or olx manils etc classified sites and let an agent show you around...you only pay for the gas if he takes you around town showing you condos...he/she will show you around town, you don't pay any fees to the agent..the owner of the condo pays half of first month rent.
Food >> Man, what can i say.....you have to get used to filippino food.....you have western, chinese, Thai, Indian food etc everywhere...just do some research...but you may have to go some places to get it...its not like everyday stuff....for fun...we all have to make some compromises :)
also, you can get a maid, some maids can cook chinese, thai and western foods who have worked in Hong kong or Singapore..they will do everything, cleaning, moping, cooking etc...just negotiate the monthly payment.
if you eat at home >>>1000 per week..if you eat out...it would be with your date..so will add it later
Utiities >>>water would be no more than 500 Pesos may be much lower, electricity is the killer...if you Use A/c and refrigerator expect to pay anywhere between 3500 to 5500 Pesos....if you do not use refrigerator the cost would come down to 2500 to 3500 >>>if you use a/c not often >>.then pay between 1500 to 2500
Misc >>>you will do lots of text message as you plan to do regular dating...i assume...everyday it would go upto 100 pesos...buy a schemes where you buy 500 to 700 pesos worth of charge which is good for 10 days etc...****research required
Cable would be 650 pesos / mnth >>>internet 4 mbps >>>>3500 2 mbps >>1500 etc so on...
Dating girls >>Contrary to what we think...girls don't cost much...i have dated many girls in manila and im yet to see a gold digger...HOWEVER....if you get close to a girl...she may ask for some money but most don't it depends upon your experience in scanning the girls.
But taking the girls out, taxi ride, beer, drinking...if we don't do that...whats the whole point right...its fun to go out with a date...expect around 1000 pesos..but when you arrive expect more than that as you will be on your toes running around with the girls :) ...slowly after few months the cost would come down.
You forgot one thing
Visa extension >>>it will also cost you a small fortune...>>every two months between 3000 to 4000 pesos...so add 2000 pesos per month for visa extension.
so we have...
10,000 rent + 4000 eat at home + 3000 utilities + Misc 6000 + 15000 Dating 10 girls/mnth plus eating outside, beer, drinks, taxi + Visa extension 2000 = 40,000 Pesos/Month...
So you are well within your monthly budget....I have put the max out on everything...after few months...you will settle down and cost will come down further....i would say....you will easily do well with 30,000 per month after first three four months period.
Good Luck
Starchild2012
08-14-10, 15:41
To the Manila Experts....somewhere in the forum I read possibilities to purchase Viagra in Manila...no I cannot find it...can someone help? Can one purchase from Pharmacy as in Hong Kong?
What are the going rate for ST and LT? Have upcoming trip and don't want to "spoil" the market"
Thanks for feedback - firebird
Yes you can purchase from pharmacy, if they ask for Doctor slip/receipt...play the dumb foreigner role...they will tell you to bring it next time..hehehe...its cool no issues....i suggest you try with cialis....less side effects
also, you can get it from the guys selling generic made in india stuff near bars for 300 to 400 pesos for four tabs i think...good stuff too...just ask around
Starchild2012
08-14-10, 15:46
This post has no relevance to any of the previous posts or indeed to this particular section of ISG, but had to do the dreaded blood test recently. Had to sign the HIV disclaimer form and agree to counselling if found to be positive.
Spent past few nights thinking about all the girls in past 18 months since last test, and theres been a lot.
Generally been playing safe but an occasional drunken bonk sans cover could have and probably did happen. And then there was that time in Jakarta. And that time and that smokin hot girl in Bangkok and that cute girl in Alabang and that high class lady from Orchard towers and and and. And you get the picture.
So with some trepidation walked into the Pathology lab place and collected the closed folder with my HIV status and other medical updates. Did the receptionist look at me with sympathy, was she staring at me, was it a cheerful smile she said goodbye to me with to soften the blow.
Got the folder and faced the dilemna of " shall I look now or later"
Now damnit. And there is big shining typed letter was NON REACTIVE I and II AB by Elosa.
Safe again!. Pheww. Been doing these tests for years now but every time I do them I end up a nervous wreck!
Ah well, now that I'm safe, I think its time to go and test the waters again!
Glad that you are safe and sound....from alternative research....its a big scam....if you don't do full anti bodies test and not take any medicine you are safe...once they confirm you have HIV and start giving you medicine..then the killer virus gets in.
Also, try to make your body as much alkaline as possible...just search in google alkaline versus acidic body ph factor. when you have alkaline body...no virus and bacteria can get into you...its only when your body becomes acidic that you are prone to a disease..its a proven fact...lots of research been done on that front.
Alkaline body is always a safe bet when you travel....just have as much vegetable food as possible. good luck
Wicked Roger
08-14-10, 15:57
Yes you can purchase from pharmacy, if they ask for Doctor slip/receipt...play the dumb foreigner role...they will tell you to bring it next time..hehehe...its cool no issues....i suggest you try with cialis....less side effects
also, you can get it from the guys selling generic made in india stuff near bars for 300 to 400 pesos for four tabs i think...good stuff too...just ask around
Firebirs
You can play the dumb foreigner and it does work
Or go to Oxford Suites, guys there are OK not fake, pay no more than 200 pesosa box or say your friends buy for 1000 pesos for 6 boxes. When you purchase open them as well make sure there is product in the box
SC - sacked from 2 jobs...amazing you must tell me more when we catch up.
Starchild2012
08-15-10, 12:47
Firebirs
SC - sacked from 2 jobs...amazing you must tell me more when we catch up.
Definitely, Can't wait :)
Whatsgoingon
08-15-10, 20:50
Safe again!. Pheww. Been doing these tests for years now but every time I do them I end up a nervous wreck!
Ah well, now that I'm safe, I think its time to go and test the waters again!
Congratulations Man. I too will be having the dreaded test next week after getting a little carried away 6 weeks ago......I know exactly what you mean when you talk about becoming a nervous wreck. Alcohol and mongering certainly are a bad combination
Undakovabrotha
08-16-10, 00:32
To the Manila Experts....somewhere in the forum I read possibilities to purchase Viagra in Manila...no I cannot find it...can someone help? Can one purchase from Pharmacy as in Hong Kong?
What are the going rate for ST and LT? Have upcoming trip and don't want to "spoil" the market"
Thanks for feedback - firebird
The big chain pharmacies do not like to sell Viagra without a prescription non Filipinos. But, you can ask your lady friend to get them for you. This works every time!
FreebieFan
08-16-10, 01:10
Congratulations Man. I too will be having the dreaded test next week after getting a little carried away 6 weeks ago......I know exactly what you mean when you talk about becoming a nervous wreck. Alcohol and mongering certainly are a bad combinationAnd another worry. 6 weeks isnt long enough to give a "true reading". I think they say it should be more than 3 months but Im not really sure.
Alcohol and mongering certainly are a bad combination.
How about a spot of tea and mongering?
Econo Tech
08-16-10, 07:07
And another worry. 6 weeks isnt long enough to give a "true reading". I think they say it should be more than 3 months but Im not really sure.To be accurate after 14 days, to 90 days, you can opt for an Elisa (quick test) or go for the Western Blot (I think I got that name right .. )
Elisa quick test has a percentage of false positive - I am not sure how much
To be safe - always wrap up - or get yourself tested 2 weeks to 30 months after 'exposure' - though a repeat test after another 3 months is recommended.
Starchild2012
08-16-10, 14:15
Congratulations Man. I too will be having the dreaded test next week after getting a little carried away 6 weeks ago......I know exactly what you mean when you talk about becoming a nervous wreck. Alcohol and mongering certainly are a bad combination
Don't worry you will be alright....I guarantee you..Don't take the test ....
People have no idea what HIV is....Corporate media is running a false propaganda along with drug companies to promote an agenda. People are deprived of real information on HIV.
First we need to understand there is no such thing as HIV virus test, elisa and western blot cannot find HIV virus, the test is for anti-bodies. Please read wiki site for more info...if you ask a doctor about this..he will say the same thing....its a fact accepted by mainstream scientific community.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_test
God forbid if you have any other non life threatening illness which lowers immune system for a while and you go for a test and boom...your anti bodies are lower than normal and you could be diagnosed as having HIV.
After getting a wrong diagnosis, you are advised to take pills (which is the real target to make billions) and your body ph factor goes acidic and you become prone to all sorts of diseases.
Please do some research, don't jump into what the mainstream media says..mongering is a lifestyle..mainstream media and society condemns our way of living..why should we listen to them....if you need a sound sleep as a monger, do research :)
Watch a great video from Jim Humble on HIV. It will change your life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjUp1zoov8
Watch videos on MMS (miracle mineral supplement) spread the message around
Good Luck
And another worry. 6 weeks isnt long enough to give a "true reading". I think they say it should be more than 3 months but Im not really sure.
Hiv is not a dreaded disease like it one was. Even the people who are diagnosed as suffering from AIDS have been treated successfully lowering their virus load in the blood.
This does not mean that you play russian roulette with you life or for that matter with your dick. Accidents do happen and so is life. You can die of many things. There is no clear cut evidence that taking drigs early will prevent everything. Some doctors caution that it is better to wait ecause the drugs are highly potent and have lots of side effects.
Don't worry you will be alright....I guarantee you
Exactly how do you guarantee something to someone you don't know and to someone whose activities are oblivious to you?
People have no idea what HIV is....Corporate media is running a false propaganda along with drug companies to promote an agenda. People are deprived of real information on HIV.
First we need to understand there is no such thing as HIV virus test, elisa and western blot cannot find HIV virus, the test is for anti-bodies. Please read wiki site for more info...if you ask a doctor about this..he will say the same thing....its a fact accepted by mainstream scientific community.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_test
Do not quote Wikipedia to support any position you want to advance because Wikipedia readily tells readers that nothing on their site is to be trusted and encourage readers seek the professionals advise of those same medical professionals you're trying to get discredit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
God forbid if you have any other non life threatening illness which lowers immune system for a while and you go for a test and boom...your anti bodies are lower than normal and you could be diagnosed as having HIV.
After getting a wrong diagnosis, you are advised to take pills (which is the real target to make billions) and your body ph factor goes acidic and you become prone to all sorts of diseases.
Please do some research, don't jump into what the mainstream media says..mongering is a lifestyle..mainstream media and society condemns our way of living..why should we listen to them....if you need a sound sleep as a monger, do research :)
Watch a great video from Jim Humble on HIV. It will change your life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjUp1zoov8
Watch videos on MMS (miracle mineral supplement) spread the message around Good Luck
Sounds like you're on the placebo laced Miracle Mineral Supplement right now. What else could lead you to dispense this type of inert prescription? Gotta love a conspiracy theorist with an agenda.
I am coming to Manila for the big poker tournament at Resorts World.
Is there any action available there?
Resorts World is across from Terminal 3 and there is no action around there. But no fear, for a 100P taxi ride you can be in Makati (Burgos) or in Manila at EDSA Entertainment complex:D
Robb
You don't want to work in PH man :), I was fired from two jobs when i was in Cebu. I just couldn't keep up. If you coming to PH just come for fun sake...stay here for one year...enjoy your hearts out and go back make some money and come back again. Unless you have a freelancing internet work, where 9-5 hours is no issue...you can work from your condo in PH.
lol, fired, that sounds like an interesting story I think
Rent >> You will get a decent 1 Bedroom Hall kitchen condo fully furnished in Mandaluyong, Pasig etc places for 10,000 pesos.
I'm not sure, but maybe Mandaluyong sounds good, would you recommend the area?.. I need to be close to Taguig as I know a great girl from there who migh be gf material, but if not then I don't want to be too far from the action in Manila...
So you are well within your monthly budget....I have put the max out on everything...after few months...you will settle down and cost will come down further....i would say....you will easily do well with 30,000 per month after first three four months period.
Cheers! I'm going to aim for that budget...
God forbid if you have any other non life threatening illness which lowers immune system for a while and you go for a test and boom...your anti bodies are lower than normal and you could be diagnosed as having HIV.
What are you talking about?
Whatsgoingon
08-16-10, 21:51
And another worry. 6 weeks isnt long enough to give a "true reading". I think they say it should be more than 3 months but Im not really sure.
Without dragging this on too long, I know. I have my visa medical next week and will have a 6 week test first to make sure that I don't fail my medical. In my part of the world you get locked up and deported if you fail an HIV test.
I will then get one at 3 months to make sure.
FreebieFan
08-17-10, 00:59
Without dragging this on too long, I know. I have my visa medical next week and will have a 6 week test first to make sure that I don't fail my medical. In my part of the world you get locked up and deported if you fail an HIV test.
I will then get one at 3 months to make sure.Same in my part of world too. Its funny that we all do tests to make the official "test" will be ok. :)
FreebieFan
08-17-10, 01:02
Don't worry you will be alright....I guarantee you..Don't take the test ....
People have no idea what HIV is....Corporate media is running a false propaganda along with drug companies to promote an agenda. People are deprived of real information on HIV.
First we need to understand there is no such thing as HIV virus test, elisa and western blot cannot find HIV virus, the test is for anti-bodies. Please read wiki site for more info...if you ask a doctor about this..he will say the same thing....its a fact accepted by mainstream scientific community.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV_test
God forbid if you have any other non life threatening illness which lowers immune system for a while and you go for a test and boom...your anti bodies are lower than normal and you could be diagnosed as having HIV.
After getting a wrong diagnosis, you are advised to take pills (which is the real target to make billions) and your body ph factor goes acidic and you become prone to all sorts of diseases.
Please do some research, don't jump into what the mainstream media says..mongering is a lifestyle..mainstream media and society condemns our way of living..why should we listen to them....if you need a sound sleep as a monger, do research :)
Watch a great video from Jim Humble on HIV. It will change your life
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGjUp1zoov8
Watch videos on MMS (miracle mineral supplement) spread the message around
Good LuckHaving had my test and having been declared " non reactive and Negative " thats all I nedd to know to sleep VERY soundly. But thanks for proferring an alternate viewpoint.
Starchild2012
08-17-10, 06:00
Exactly how do you guarantee something to someone you don't know and to someone whose activities are oblivious to you?
Do not quote Wikipedia to support any position you want to advance because Wikipedia readily tells readers that nothing on their site is to be trusted and encourage readers seek the professionals advise of those same medical professionals you're trying to get discredit:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:General_disclaimer
Sounds like you're on the placebo laced Miracle Mineral Supplement right now. What else could lead you to dispense this type of inert prescription? Gotta love a conspiracy theorist with an agenda.
LoL....I have one line for you please stop watching CNN. The stuff they feed you everyday..will make you believe Obama and Bush are saints.:)
Now, Ask any local Doc in your area regarding the test and how wrong diagnosis occur. He will tell you that there is no test for HIV virus, the test is only for anti-body count. Period. What else do you want to know about this scam called HIV test.
It is a FACT which is approved by FDA, WHO and whatever others that elisa and western blot only count your anti-bodies...There is no test available to find HIV virus in your body. Please understand the above line. Its a game changer in benefit of us.
Now, if you ask how wrong diagnosis occur and he will tell you, if you are on a medication or just came after long illness, chances are depending upon your body PH factor, your anti-body count may not be normal and in case may drop significantly...and if you take test at that time, it could lead to wrong diagnosis..means..they will say you have HIV. Do you want to take that risk...
I can guarantee everyone who is in this forum 10000% who has f**cked girls in Asia with or without condom, you will be alright if ...
1. You stop watching CNN.
2. Not listen to government & corporate propaganda on HIV.
3. Keep your body PH level alkaline (search Google for more info)
4. DO NOT TAKE HIV TEST.
Thats all, if you do these things, you will be a FREE MAN..free from Fear mongerers who bake you with half truth and full lies and make such a wonderful sexual experience a nightmare.
AND I WALK THE TALK....
If you have followed my post...i'm from India..one of the largest countries with HIV ( as they say..but not TRUE)...its just another propaganda from anti hiv campaigns to get more funds from government.
I have f**cked prostitutes from India to PH for over 14 years now, f**cked more than 800 girls, sometimes without condom BUT i always use condom so should you. I'm not proposing no condom policy....Please DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND WHAT I"M SAYING..this scam called HIV is beyond condom or no condom debate.
I'm clean as whistle...I never contracted any disease...NOW i hear this all the time...its just matter of time....( another form of fear tactics to scare you to death)..the time has passed over and over and over again...the guys who tell you about time always use their hands for fun..we use real girls for fun.
If you want to avoid nightmare after sex with HIV in your mind....please do not listen to mainstrem media...when was the last time anything good came out of it. please do not take HIV test.
I don't charge anything, i want everyone to enjoy, i dont have a death wish, i want every human being to be free.....I'm not boasting it, as i have mentioned in old post, i have fucked 100s and 100s of girls in PH and im clean super clean. However, i use condom all the time.
There is no such thing as risk only ignorance and fear..the media is feeding you fear 24/7...please do your own research.
Mongering lifestyle is not easy....you need to research your every move.
PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE ME ALSO. I want you to do all your own research taking all aspect and alternative views and then decide whats best for you.
If you guys need more info on this, i can send you links to study and research on your own.
Good Luck
Starchild2012
08-17-10, 06:11
What are you talking about?
Amjeck...As i have posted below. There is no test for HIV virus....you can go to any doctor from coast to coast and he will tell you the same. You can go to any medical journal and research. You can also do research on how elisa and western blot make diagnosis...Its scary stuff.
The test is for your anti body count NOT HIV VIRUS.... if you do some research..you will be amazed by the scam on HIV test.....I was scared in my earlier days...they fed me fear all the time...after doing research my life is happier than ever.
If you read my earlier post, i have never ever said anything bad about PH...cos im enjoying it here fully not fearing about something may happen to me.
Do not listen to me..do your own research...i never listen to anyone..i do my own research...also look for ph factor in your body..alkaline body vs acidic body etc
good luck
Starchild2012
08-17-10, 06:19
I'm not sure, but maybe Mandaluyong sounds good, would you recommend the area?.. I need to be close to Taguig as I know a great girl from there who migh be gf material, but if not then I don't want to be too far from the action in Manila...
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Yeah..Mandaluyong is a good place..clean and safe, lots of expats in condos there...its cheap also...not expensive to rent there..taxis, MRT train, jeepney near by.... tricycle available 24/7
In Taguig, you will get the condos more cheaply, its roughly six km from mandaluyong....Mandaluyong has all the malls. Only thing you need to be careful anywhere in manila are hellish taxi drivers., rest all is great.
Good Luck
The test is for your anti body count NOT HIV VIRUS.... if you do some research..you will be amazed by the scam on HIV test.....i never listen to anyone..i do my own research...also look for ph factor in your body..alkaline body vs acidic body etc
Dude, it's really enough of that nonsense now. If you would know anything about antibodies you would know that and why they are used to test for a virus, for any virus for that matter. You never listen to anyone? Yeah, that's probably the systematic problem here.
Look, it's indeed wise to question established opinions from time to time, also and especially in the medical field. If you are in doubt with a doctor, get a second opinion or a third. However it's unwise to just reject the scientific advances of decades and out of the blue proclaim all of that as a conspiracy. It's not.
A (slightly) alkaline body is indeed believed to be beneficial for your health in the times of our more acidic eating habits but it will in no way make you immune to wicked diseases. You are on par with religious zealots who reject life saving operations because they believe they can pray cancer away instead.
I don't think any of what I said will resonate positively with your world conspiracy opinions but just stop spreading that mess of yours.
He will tell you that there is no test for HIV virus, the test is only for anti-body count.
Seems the Doc has chosen the wrong job then.
Polymerase chain reaction tests can detect the virus itself.
But these tests are the most expensive compared with looking for antibodies.
Cheers!
I have f**cked prostitutes from India to PH for over 14 years now, f**cked more than 800 girls, sometimes without condom BUT i always use condom so should you.
However, i use condom all the time.
Hmmm... you are contradicting yourself here.
Not sure how "sometimes without a condom" can equal "I use condom all the time."
FreebieFan
08-18-10, 01:29
Anyone who has encounters with those fine gentleman and ladies from MMDA known as Traffic Enforcers but known more locallly as Crocodiles will be pleased to know that the new head of MMDA stated today that "the MMDA would be picking qualified traffic enforcers based on their fitness and track record to ensure that they could handle the demands of the job"
The only abilities they need are the ability to stop motorists, poke their generally oversized heads in vehicles driver windows and cream big bucks for sometimes real but equally made up traffic violations. And of course they arent corrupt. Oh no, not those saintly ladies and gentleman who are perfroming a wonderful public service!
The crime I have been stopped for frequently in the past was my female companion not having her seat belt on. Primarily due to the fact she had never seen such a contracption in her life before and had no idea how to use!
Starchild2012
08-18-10, 07:45
Anyone who has encounters with those fine gentleman and ladies from MMDA known as Traffic Enforcers but known more locallly as Crocodiles will be pleased to know that the new head of MMDA stated today that "the MMDA would be picking qualified traffic enforcers based on their fitness and track record to ensure that they could handle the demands of the job"
The only abilities they need are the ability to stop motorists, poke their generally oversized heads in vehicles driver windows and cream big bucks for sometimes real but equally made up traffic violations. And of course they arent corrupt. Oh no, not those saintly ladies and gentleman who are perfroming a wonderful public service!
The crime I have been stopped for frequently in the past was my female companion not having her seat belt on. Primarily due to the fact she had never seen such a contracption in her life before and had no idea how to use!
LOL Good one :) ....I'm done with HIV topic no more debate from me..I'm sorry for diverting the thread...its just that sitting in India makes me go bonkers ...lets get back to what we all do best :)
Wicked Roger
08-18-10, 07:59
The crime I have been stopped for frequently in the past was my female companion not having her seat belt on. Primarily due to the fact she had never seen such a contracption in her life before and had no idea how to use!
Given your predilictions am sure the seat belt was not on her FF as she was giving or had just completed a BBBJ while you were driving :)
Trust me, with me as her tutor she would know what 'belts' were for very quickly :D
Having been with friends stopped by the traffic police both in Makati and Burgos, I appreciate the problem all motorists face in Manila. At times I thought where I live was bad but they are all pussy cats compared with MMDA.
FreebieFan
08-18-10, 08:34
Given your predilictions am sure the seat belt was not on her FF as she was giving or had just completed a BBBJ while you were driving :)
Trust me, with me as her tutor she would know what 'belts' were for very quickly :D
Having been with friends stopped by the traffic police both in Makati and Burgos, I appreciate the problem all motorists face in Manila. At times I thought where I live was bad but they are all pussy cats compared with MMDA.Blow Job Guide to EDSA.
If you drive along EDSA regularly, you know not to have the girl give a BJ near Ayala /Edsa intersection due to heavy prescence of MMDA. Equally by Dusit/Edsa intersection.
Further down EDSA you tell her to get up and stop the BJ near Taft/Rotunda EDSA intersection. You are ok then all the way down to Mall of Asia except around the roundabout where theres MMDA.
If you make the U-turn just past Heritage to back up EDSA there are more MMDA there.
Otherwise BJ's down EDSA are fine and fun. LOL
Can someone advise best places to change money?
Was in Amazonia Friday night and plenty of action, but had to dig for quality.
Live band. The pros hit on you at the bar, better to take table and do interviews, lol.
Some C cups around but didn't see/touch any Ds...lots of push-up bras in
Manila. Sogo hotel is 50P ride away, with 250p charge for shorttime room.
ST BJ & FS still 1500p.
Enjoy,
Cheapy
Any field reports/big boob sightings :)? Thanks and mabuhay...
KyCuriosity
08-22-10, 05:20
Can someone advise best places to change money?I actually dated a girl that works at the bank of commerce in the airport when you're exiting the terminal. About 2 years now, she first told me that the money changer in the center of Robinson's mall with the Green booth (can't remember the name now) always has the best rate overall, because they check it twice daily and adjust accordingly. They only charge like. 25-. 5 more than the base rate. I can't remember all the fine details, but ever since I started using them, I can't ever remember a time walking around finding a better deal.
I wish I could remember the name of the place, but if you find all the booths in the center of the mall, you will see it around that usually with about 3-4 long lines to it. Early in the morning is best.
Can anyone help me out remembering the name?
If you arrive really late, I would suggest buying 1000-2000 pesos at a really bad rate at your home airport, just in case (as my first trip) that you arrive after the banks all close. Just my thoughts.
Always the best rates is on ATM. Use your credit card 3. 5€ or prepayd visa. Only 1. 5€.not visa credit, this one is expensive.
I actually dated a girl that works at the bank of commerce in the airport when you're exiting the terminal. About 2 years now, she first told me that the money changer in the center of Robinson's mall with the Green booth (can't remember the name now) always has the best rate overall, because they check it twice daily and adjust accordingly. They only charge like. 25-. 5 more than the base rate. I can't remember all the fine details, but ever since I started using them, I can't ever remember a time walking around finding a better deal.
I wish I could remember the name of the place, but if you find all the booths in the center of the mall, you will see it around that usually with about 3-4 long lines to it. Early in the morning is best.
Can anyone help me out remembering the name?
If you arrive really late, I would suggest buying 1000-2000 pesos at a really bad rate at your home airport, just in case (as my first trip) that you arrive after the banks all close. Just my thoughts.
GoodEnough
08-23-10, 13:04
It's almost 8 PM on Monday evening in Davao, and I'm sitting in my living room watching the Philippines Hijacked Bus Hostage Crisis on live TV on CNN. Apparently a former police officer--accused of robbery and extortion and fired from his job--hijacked a bus full of Hong Kong tourists and has held it for the last 8 hours or so, and took this action to demand reinstatement.
Of course, this being the Philippines, the guy was never put in prison, never actually tried, and apparently permitted to retain his M16 with which he entered the bus dressed as a cop. Now, apparently he's killed some people and so the "SWAT" team has stormed the bus. They've been storming it so far for about 60 minutes and haven't managed to get inside, thereby giving the guy inside ample opportunity to do whatever he wants. This would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Clearly, these guys have no idea what to do, don't have proper equipment, and cannot even manage to break the windows of the bus. If this were the US, or Europe or Japan, it would have taken an elite group of cops about 10 seconds to board the bus, kill the hostage taker and attend to the hostages. This is pathetic.
As I watch this, I cannot help but reflect that the total ineptitude of the cops, the lack of equipment, the lack of a plan, the ability of a disgraced police officer to blithely board a bus with a loaded M 16, is nothing more or less than a metaphor for this sad, failed country.
Of course, the fact that this is playing out live, in living color, in front of the entire world will do nothing but erode even further, the reputation and status of the country, which just cannot seem to get anything right, ever.
It's sad; it's pathetic and it's disheartening.
GE
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Philippines+Hijacked+Bus+Hostage+Crisis&hl=en&rlz=1B3GGIC_enAU285US286&tbs=nws:1&prmd=n&source=lnms&ei=BWhyTN4Wj6Vxk7j0lg0&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CBYQ_AU#
It's almost 8 PM on Monday evening in Davao, and I'm sitting in my living room watching the Philippines Hijacked Bus Hostage Crisis on live TV on CNN. Apparently a former police officer--accused of robbery and extortion and fired from his job--hijacked a bus full of Hong Kong tourists and has held it for the last 8 hours or so, and took this action to demand reinstatement.
Of course, this being the Philippines, the guy was never put in prison, never actually tried, and apparently permitted to retain his M16 with which he entered the bus dressed as a cop. Now, apparently he's killed some people and so the "SWAT" team has stormed the bus. They've been storming it so far for about 15 minutes and haven't managed to get inside, thereby giving the guy inside ample opportunity to do whatever he wants. This would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Clearly, these guys have no idea what to do, don't have proper equipment, and cannot even manage to break the windows of the bus. If this were the US, or Europe or Japan, it would have taken an elite group of cops about 10 seconds to board the bus, kill the hostage taker and attend to the hostages. This is pathetic.
As I watch this, I cannot help but reflect that the total ineptitude of the cops, the lack of equipment, the lack of a plan, the ability of a disgraced police officer to blithely board a bus with a loaded M 16, is nothing more or less than a metaphor for this sad, failed country.
Of course, the fact that this is playing out live, in living color, in front of the entire world will do nothing but erode even further, the reputation and status of the country, which just cannot seem to get anything right, ever.
It's sad; it's pathetic and it's disheartening.
GE
It's almost 8 PM on Monday evening in Davao, and I'm sitting in my living room watching the Philippines Hijacked Bus Hostage Crisis on live TV on CNN. Apparently a former police officer--accused of robbery and extortion and fired from his job--hijacked a bus full of Hong Kong tourists and has held it for the last 8 hours or so, and took this action to demand reinstatement.
Of course, this being the Philippines, the guy was never put in prison, never actually tried, and apparently permitted to retain his M16 with which he entered the bus dressed as a cop. Now, apparently he's killed some people and so the "SWAT" team has stormed the bus. They've been storming it so far for about 60 minutes and haven't managed to get inside, thereby giving the guy inside ample opportunity to do whatever he wants. This would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Clearly, these guys have no idea what to do, don't have proper equipment, and cannot even manage to break the windows of the bus. If this were the US, or Europe or Japan, it would have taken an elite group of cops about 10 seconds to board the bus, kill the hostage taker and attend to the hostages. This is pathetic.
As I watch this, I cannot help but reflect that the total ineptitude of the cops, the lack of equipment, the lack of a plan, the ability of a disgraced police officer to blithely board a bus with a loaded M 16, is nothing more or less than a metaphor for this sad, failed country.
Of course, the fact that this is playing out live, in living color, in front of the entire world will do nothing but erode even further, the reputation and status of the country, which just cannot seem to get anything right, ever.
It's sad; it's pathetic and it's disheartening.
GE
It is now 8:50 and it is over. They finally killed him....waiting to see how many he killed. I just left my buddies in canteen and we were watching wondering where the PNP got trained.
GE is 100% right, if it wasn't so tragic, it would be so funny!
Robb
Captain America
08-23-10, 16:10
Cheapie,
I was there friday nighn too bad we didnl get acquanted.
There is actually a hotel up the stairs behind the bar. Ask for #5 or another bigger roomn as the small ones are very cramped.
Used to take LA Cafe ladies there when I was in a hurry.
Cheapie,
I was there friday nighn too bad we didnl get acquanted.
There is actually a hotel up the stairs behind the bar. Ask for #5 or another bigger roomn as the small ones are very cramped.
Used to take LA Cafe ladies there when I was in a hurry.
When you use ST rooms upstairs in Amazonia make sure you undress and keep your valuables with you when you go to take a shower. The common scam with the girls is they go to shower first, there is not enough room to shower together. When they are done they ask you to take a shower. If you get undressed and leave your money in the pockets by the time you come back both the money and the girl will be gone. There is no security blocking their exit. One time the girl tried to undress me Before I took the shower and told me she will watch out for my clothes. I told her I would rather undress in the bathroom even though it was tiny.
Never be drunk .
This video footage only shows how badly they seemed to have handled it.
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/8130772/21546273
It is now 8:50 and it is over. They finally killed him....waiting to see how many he killed. I just left my buddies in canteen and we were watching wondering where the PNP got trained.
GE is 100% right, if it wasn't so tragic, it would be so funny!
Robb
It's sad; it's pathetic and it's disheartening.
GEYes I watched it, it was bloody disgraceful & tragic. Third world cops, what do you expect GE? Every thing I have seen & heard of the military & Police indicates to me shocking lack of training. Do you guys ever watch that SOGO bullshit on TV? Bunch of clowns with guns pushing & shoving each other through apartment doorways trying to be the first to let off a clip full of rounds at... anything!
The regular firefights between NPA/MILF et al & AFP frequently result in many military deaths versus few rebel deaths. Sometimes whole platoons get wiped out. Why? No fire discipline, no plan, no training. Rebels ambush them, the AFP spray the friggin jungle until their clips are dry then the rebels walk in & double tap them with pistols.
Elite units? That means they have nicer uniforms & functional weapons..
I have no doubt that there are some hard men & some good men amongst them but most are just there to draw a salary for the 23 cousins.
AV
When you use ST rooms upstairs in Amazonia make sure you undress and keep your valuables with you when you go to take a shower. The common scam with the girls is they go to shower first, there is not enough room to shower together. When they are done they ask you to take a shower. If you get undressed and leave your money in the pockets by the time you come back both the money and the girl will be gone. There is no security blocking their exit. One time the girl tried to undress me Before I took the shower and told me she will watch out for my clothes. I told her I would rather undress in the bathroom even though it was tiny.
Never be drunk.Amazonia has always kept my girl's ID's and called if she left before I did.
FreebieFan
08-24-10, 07:16
Yes I watched it, it was bloody disgraceful & tragic. Third world cops, what do you expect GE? Every thing I have seen & heard of the military & Police indicates to me shocking lack of training. Do you guys ever watch that SOGO bullshit on TV? Bunch of clowns with guns pushing & shoving each other through apartment doorways trying to be the first to let off a clip full of rounds at... anything!
The regular firefights between NPA/MILF et al & AFP frequently result in many military deaths versus few rebel deaths. Sometimes whole platoons get wiped out. Why? No fire discipline, no plan, no training. Rebels ambush them, the AFP spray the friggin jungle until their clips are dry then the rebels walk in & double tap them with pistols.
Elite units? That means they have nicer uniforms & functional weapons..
I have no doubt that there are some hard men & some good men amongst them but most are just there to draw a salary for the 23 cousins.
AVYou gents may remember some years back when a druggie took his own child hostage in a bus station in Manila. The police had him surrounded but still the kid was shot dead.
The fact that HK has stopped all its nationals flying to Phils will mean a lot of empty 3 star hotels for next few weeks.
Koreans will be watching and the Phil goverment will lbe very grateful it was HK national and not Koreans who were involved otherwise it would be the temporary death of Boracay.
The incompetence was mindless, the lack of leadership appaling and the antiquated tactics sad.
First rule in a hostage situation is starve the ocassion of media interest. Put up barriers or whatever so no one can C. To allow it to be played out in the Worlds tv screens indicates total incompetence. Its a sad day but also an idictment of the incompetence of the Police SWAT teams. Then again, their salaries alone indicate that these can never be the best or the brightest.
Maybe they won't be so proud to wear their SWAT vests indicating their status in future in Manila.
All of you who are going on about this must remember one thing: Yeah, it's sad and pathetic and highly incompetent and all that. It's also what makes the Philippines and many other countries a haven for the sex trade. All of this works together. You want to clean up the country and make the authorities take responsibility. Blah, blah, blah. I'm sure you would be talking out of both sides of your mouth if that affected the precious reason that we are all here in the first place (that is if you're not already).
Just think about it. I'm not interested in starting a debate and will not respond to same.
Bye
Cunning Stunt
08-24-10, 11:25
The regular firefights between NPA/MILF et al & AFP frequently result in many military deaths versus few rebel deaths. Sometimes whole platoons get wiped out. Why? No fire discipline, no plan, no training. Rebels ambush them, the AFP spray the friggin jungle until their clips are dry then the rebels walk in & double tap them with pistols.
Yup, you are surely right. In fact the Philippine Army Training Manual states that in the case of a firefight, the combatants are to form a circle (same as for firing squads) and shoot from the hip. If this doesn’t work they are to shout ‘giddeup’ and move in circular format letting off war whoops at frequent intervals.
Check if you don’t believe me.
Econo Tech
08-24-10, 13:36
Yup, you are surely right. In fact the Philippine Army Training Manual states that in the case of a firefight, the combatants are to form a circle (same as for firing squads) and shoot from the hip. If this doesn’t work they are to shout ‘giddeup’ and move in circular format letting off war whoops at frequent intervals.
Check if you don’t believe me.I couldn't stomach it when I say the comedy of errors .. the cops quitely crept near the bus with their pickups, and used ropes to break the doors off - the same door that a cop tried to hammer his way into and ended up dropping the hammer and smartely and quitely, put his hand and retrieved it.
I think the hostage taker would have died for LAUGHING HIS WAY To DEATH .. Or maybe was shitting in his pants knowing Manila's finest were gonna spook him to death.
Even those who do Paint ball shooting know how to take cover and shoot.
ManonsanBoy
08-24-10, 14:57
Be careful when you monger in the Philippines. Just watch the news. It is a reminder why you can have young pussy
Wicked Roger
08-24-10, 15:04
It is now 8:50 and it is over. They finally killed him....waiting to see how many he killed. I just left my buddies in canteen and we were watching wondering where the PNP got trained.
GE is 100% right, if it wasn't so tragic, it would be so funny!
Robb
Yep was a great advert for PI tourism...BBC, Sky News, CNN and Al Jazeera covered the news, some live and used similar or the same words ....if it wasn't so tragic, it would be so funny!
'Keystone Kops' was another phrase used and an already ailing country is pushed further down the ladder....tourism will suffer but will it put off mongers?
One day someone who is elected will do something ..... but pigs will fly first and I will be able to buy a bacon sandwich in Starbucks in Saudi.
Sad, depressing, shameful and tragic...but this is PI
Amazonia has always kept my girl's ID's and called if she left before I did.
You have got to be joking.
You must be confused about the name of the place Blunau. There is one guy on the door outside and that's it - he is not even "security" as it is commonly known.
Up 2 sets of stairs you will find a young girl who collects the money and hands out keys. She asks you to sign a room card. I always write a capital X on it and a scribble in the signature space and I am good to go with one, 2 or 3 girls.
Wicked Roger
08-24-10, 17:51
Manila police admitting they screwed it up...well had no choice given the worldwide media coverage of their hostage 'rescue' attempts ...even the Sky News man had to try and resist smiling when he was describing the pick axe attempt to break the window and pointed out the police shortcomings (eg no ladder!)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11076735
Cunning Stunt
08-24-10, 19:41
Hong Kong/China are not best pleased! Woops. The Philippines shoots themselves in the foot again.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11067310
Bet that the poor old OFWs in HK are getting a hard time.
dumb fucks never heard of flash-bangs I guess (concussion grennades)
As a member of military law enforcement, the ideal tactical solution for the situation they were in probably would have been a sniper with a high - powered rifle. A response team with concussion grenades might have been effective, but the sheet metal the bus was made out of probably would not have been very effective at diffusing the blast away from the men that deployed the grenade!
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you guys are wrong. The SWATs are out of their usual environment. They are very competent in AC raiding the bars and harassing the girls.
Just wondering, why not just promise guy the job back just to end things? I mean it's not like he was asking for a boatload of cash and a private jet.
You have got to be joking.
You must be confused about the name of the place Blunau. There is one guy on the door outside and that's it - he is not even "security" as it is commonly known.
Up 2 sets of stairs you will find a young girl who collects the money and hands out keys. She asks you to sign a room card. I always write a capital X on it and a scribble in the signature space and I am good to go with one, 2 or 3 girls.The girl who collects money also collected ID's from the girls. I'm absolutely positive it happened the first time I went there, because I remembered that they called me when she left. I'm 99% sure that it also happened the second time.
Were you with FL's or Amazonia barfine girls? Mine were FL's. Maybe they don't ID bar fines?
GoodEnough
08-25-10, 06:05
There was an article on one of yesterday's newspapers quoting some government functionary who was blaming at least part of the disaster on the international news networks. It seems that the hijacker had a television on the bus and was thereby able to track the "strategy" (which was not evident) of the SWAT team as it rushed the bus. This is consistent with the general tendency never to accept responsibility for anything that might be negative.
I guess the implicit reasoning is that without CNN the hour+ "mill around the bus while scratching our asses and wondering what to do" strategy would have worked.
GE
Yes, take your clothes/wallet with you when you shower.comon sense. I've forgotten many times, not to mention the camera/ laptop. I've never had a problem.
Maybe I've been lucky because I don't associate with women with facial tatoos, sneers, mucous drooling down from her hot pants, etc.
I think Sammon is over generalizing. But if he got ripped off I hope he will give us the details.
Disclaimer for the fkwt who contantly calls me a complainer: Sammon has good advice, but I've never experienced misfortune by asking a woman to my room. Other than a stinky box.
X
When you use ST rooms upstairs in Amazonia make sure you undress and keep your valuables with you when you go to take a shower. The common scam with the girls is they go to shower first, there is not enough room to shower together. When they are done they ask you to take a shower. If you get undressed and leave your money in the pockets by the time you come back both the money and the girl will be gone. There is no security blocking their exit. One time the girl tried to undress me Before I took the shower and told me she will watch out for my clothes. I told her I would rather undress in the bathroom even though it was tiny.
Never be drunk .
OldAsiaHand
08-25-10, 08:57
I will be in Manila next week. I broke my foot and am on crutches and not getting around very well. I would like to find a FS girl/caretaker to stay with me for 5-6 days to take care of all my needs while I stay in my hotel room. Sort of like a nurse/maid with benefits. My plan was to go to the LA Cafe one time and get some numbers to call for ST delivery service until I find the right girl for LT.
Any suggestions? Are the LA Cafe girls at Amazonia? I have never been to Amazonia. What time is best to go? Are they all thieves like mentioned in a recent post? I would not be able to chase one if they bolted from my hotel room. How much do you reckon I need to pay for 24 hour service?
Thanks.
OAH
Starchild2012
08-25-10, 10:32
I will be in Manila next week. I broke my foot and am on crutches and not getting around very well. I would like to find a FS girl/caretaker to stay with me for 5-6 days to take care of all my needs while I stay in my hotel room. Sort of like a nurse/maid with benefits. My plan was to go to the LA Cafe one time and get some numbers to call for ST delivery service until I find the right girl for LT.
Any suggestions? Are the LA Cafe girls at Amazonia? I have never been to Amazonia. What time is best to go? Are they all thieves like mentioned in a recent post? I would not be able to chase one if they bolted from my hotel room. How much do you reckon I need to pay for 24 hour service?
Thanks.
OAH
OAH...Chill....Your wish is Ph women's command :)...No worries you will be well taken care of..there are various ways you could get a maid cum benefits to be with you. Filipino women are worldwide recognized as a excellent caretaker
First method is the formal one.
Go to Classifieds sites such as
http://manila.craigslist.com.ph/
http://www.classifiedsph.com/
http://www.adpost.com/ph/manila_metropolitan_area/
http://manila.olx.com.ph/
Post your requirements in the Jobs section you will get lost of replies.
Second Method:
Call http://romaenterprise.multiply.com/ they will hook you up with maids.
Also, you could call ..Maid training center http://super-helper.com/ ( yes only in the Ph :)) and ask for recommendations
Third Method.
Go to DIA date in asia site and sort women above 30 and start contacting them normally, it will take some time to get a list of women, and then you could tell them what you are looking for.... most will agree...I found out about this, while dating casually, many women in DIA were willing to offer maid services without asking.
Don't get working girls to take care of you...first it would be expensive, second there would be no work ethic, unprofessional and besides sex they have nothing to offer.
You could hire a maid and she will go around with you in bars etc...no biggie..women in PH are very understanding in matters related to fun.
If saudi Arabia is to oil then Ph is to maid services ..there are millions and millions of maids waiting ...you just need to pick the one you like :)
Hope your feet gets healed quickly by the magic touch of filipina care taker :)
Good Luck...
At least one law enforcement offical knew how to board a bus...although I would assume it's rather easy when you are wearing a uniform, have a loaded weapon, and the sitting ducks don't know what is about to hit them.
Recent reports indicates that the Bopaloopy wasn't on the bus.
you guys are wrong. The SWATs are out of their usual environment. They are very competent in AC raiding the bars and harassing the girls.
OAH...Chill....Your wish is Ph women's command :)...No worries you will be well taken care of..there are various ways you could get a maid cum benefits to be with you. Filipino women are worldwide recognized as a excellent caretaker
First method is the formal one.
Go to Classifieds sites such as
http://manila.craigslist.com.ph/
http://www.classifiedsph.com/
http://www.adpost.com/ph/manila_metropolitan_area/
http://manila.olx.com.ph/
Post your requirements in the Jobs section you will get lost of replies.
Second Method:
Call http://romaenterprise.multiply.com/ they will hook you up with maids.
Also, you could call ..Maid training center http://super-helper.com/ ( yes only in the Ph :)) and ask for recommendations
Third Method.
Go to DIA date in asia site and sort women above 30 and start contacting them normally, it will take some time to get a list of women, and then you could tell them what you are looking for.... most will agree...I found out about this, while dating casually, many women in DIA were willing to offer maid services without asking.
Don't get working girls to take care of you...first it would be expensive, second there would be no work ethic, unprofessional and besides sex they have nothing to offer.
You could hire a maid and she will go around with you in bars etc...no biggie..women in PH are very understanding in matters related to fun.
If saudi Arabia is to oil then Ph is to maid services ..there are millions and millions of maids waiting ...you just need to pick the one you like :)
Hope your feet gets healed quickly by the magic touch of filipina care taker :)
Good Luck...
What this guy needs is a caretaker cum sex girl cum companion.
I am sure he can get a maid with no problem. Will they bed with him and be a constant companion?
I would not advice him to call agencies who supply maids, nurses etc.
Better to hit some bars and ask around.
I sympathise with your predicament.
I had a vaguely similar situation when I set up house in manila a few years ago.
I went to LA Cafe with a mate for the evening. A real pretty lady and her friend approached us. I chatted the pretty one, and she agreed to come back with me to my apartment for the night. She looked after me very well.
She cooked breaqkfast next morning, and I asked her if she wanted to be my housekeeper. Duties include full house maintenance, all shopping, money management, pay bills etc. Plus provide me with full service. I offered 10,000 per mo.
She accepted.
Provided excellent service in all matters till I returned to Aust almost a year later. Totally honest, never stole a cent. Sometimes brought her friend when friend needed servicing.
maybe if you could find and ISG to search and interview for you on a similar basis.
Another similar situation was a year in papua New Guinea. I had med a girl in a bar who was a standout. We got on very well. When I went to Port Moresby for a year, I contacted her and offered the job, on a similar basis. She accepted. We had a wonderful time. But she did not provide any other damsels, and I did not ask.
They will do it readily, if you are a good employer, and you pay well. Do not try to squeeze them out of money. You want plenty from them. So be generous in return.
G
There was an article on one of yesterday's newspapers quoting some government functionary who was blaming at least part of the disaster on the international news networks. It seems that the hijacker had a television on the bus and was thereby able to track the "strategy" (which was not evident) of the SWAT team as it rushed the bus. This is consistent with the general tendency never to accept responsibility for anything that might be negative.
I guess the implicit reasoning is that without CNN the hour+ "mill around the bus while scratching our asses and wondering what to do" strategy would have worked.
GEI did not see much so not even the live airtime,. but it is a fac that if they had a tv tuned on CNN, whether the "special forces" were the best or the worst, their actions coul dbe monitored from inside the bus.
I agree on tv news, but some discretion shoul dbe used sometime.
It is not censorship, it is common sense.
Copy that - where do you think the girls learn hooking?
Gosh, they can't be screwed by their own people right? LOL
Well, none of the girls you see in Philippines are forced into the trade, they test the waters with locals before upgrading to foreign trade.
And I have met enough girls who were asking for just 500 peso - once i got used to them, because they admit that's the price locals pay for sex.
And, if you been with some natives in QC and Tondo, there are enough cheap casas catering to the native tribes - maybe 100 times that you count in AC and other foreigner bars.
Tried to PM you but not accepting PMs. So I'll put this question out for anyone in the know.
Saw this post on casa and since I'm a fan of casa/ brothels the world over , wonder if anyone have a few casa locations (addresses) in Quezon city that you could share,Please PM me if you don't want info made too public.
and are the prices at these places 500p?
Also, any details on just how do I spot a casa in Manila? I'm a frequent monger in China, Thailand, Singapore and Cambodia and In many parts of asia, the brothels are easily spotted by smoked glass doors and red/pink christmas lights. Not sure what the filipino brothel signs are. Always open to new info.
Thanks
Shark
GoodEnough
08-26-10, 01:20
I did not see much so not even the live airtime,. but it is a fac that if they had a tv tuned on CNN, whether the "special forces" were the best or the worst, their actions coul dbe monitored from inside the bus.
I agree on tv news, but some discretion shoul dbe used sometime.
It is not censorship, it is common sense.
Yes, but it's also probably true that if there was a trained, equipped SWAT Team, the whole thing would have been over in a minute or two, and the TV coverage wouldn't have made any difference at all. This place is a joke.
Wicked Roger
08-26-10, 06:36
Yes, but it's also probably true that if there was a trained, equipped SWAT Team, the whole thing would have been over in a minute or two, and the TV coverage wouldn't have made any difference at all. This place is a joke.
Agree GE. A properly trained SWAT would have disarmed him far faster SAS/SWAT teams have dealt with far more difficult siutations worldwide with far more professionalism...and as you said earlier, who allows a policeman who havs been kicked out of the force/supsensed to keep his firearm and uniform.
This from the BBC, interesting read and am some others could add to the list
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11069616
OldAsiaHand
08-26-10, 09:36
What this guy needs is a caretaker cum sex girl cum companion.
I am sure he can get a maid with no problem. Will they bed with him and be a constant companion?
I would not advice him to call agencies who supply maids, nurses etc.
Better to hit some bars and ask around.
Sammon,
That is exactly what I need and only for 5-6 days while I am in Manila. Problem is that I cannot get around too well to hit a lot of bars with my injury. My experience with LA Cafe was that the girls there seemed less hardcore than other places and might be more willing for the arrangement. Since they are now closed, I am looking for a similar bar alternative. Is Amazonia my best bet? I am hoping to go when I arrive and then just chill in my hotel room for 5-6 days.
OAH
So as not to "upset" the market, can someone advise what reasonable rate for ST and LT should be? I would like to know the "right" amount once the "talent" asks for some crazy amount
Thanks for the feedback
Econo Tech
08-26-10, 11:37
Tried to PM you but not accepting PMs. So I'll put this question out for anyone in the know.
Saw this post on casa and since I'm a fan of casa/ brothels the world over, wonder if anyone have a few casa locations (addresses) in Quezon city that you could share, Please PM me if you don't want info made too public.
And are the prices at these places 500p?You couldn't pm me because I haven't put my foot in my mouth and coughed up the "membership" yet I should do it one of these days.
My 'low cost' (cheap is a word that raises a lot of derisive commetns nowadays.) pickups primarily were girls who had not done time in Singapore. And were more than happy to walk off with what was given, and were mainly sourced through a reliable lady contact. Maybe they made up the difference in the gifts. And a stop in Seaside Manila did make up the big change I guess. And the contact in question sometimes made it look like she just walked out of the hotel and rounded up a few girls. Or so it felt most of the times. Just be prepared to have half a dozen girls in your door.
Sometimes, I have had the patience to chat up a girl, but money wise, it scared me if I will offend by giving too little which they girls will take it as painting them as *****s. So I end up slipping 3, 000 or more into their pockets
Casas' I never had the guts to go it alone, but once a Filipino did take me to some casa in QC, but I was a bit allergic to the environment, and ended up calling up my contact, or opting for other choices.
The girl who collects money also collected ID's from the girls. I'm absolutely positive it happened the first time I went there, because I remembered that they called me when she left. I'm 99% sure that it also happened the second time.
Were you with FL's or Amazonia barfine girls? Mine were FL's. Maybe they don't ID bar fines?I was in Amazonia many times with both FL and barfine (there is no such thing by the way but call it girls from bar downstairs) and they never even once asked the Girl's ID. However, I am sure they will oblige if you ask the girl to hand them her ID.
I fail to see the need, though. Just never leave your money, that's all, and common sense. Be it in Amazonia or any other place. If you need to take a shower, undress in the bathroom then go out when you finished with your pants and keep it in sight.
The worst is when you take two girls. Then one can go through your belongings while you busy with the other. Need to watch out that too.
Rubio Tonto
08-26-10, 14:13
an account from one of the hostages in which the hostage said that a significant number of the hostage casualties were from "friendly" fire when the tear gas was sprayed in the bus. The hostages had been down below the seats or in the aisles, then stood up to run out because of the tear gas and got shot. Until that point, Mendoza had only caused two casualties. I wonder if there will be some kind of ballistics investigation to see who shot whom.
I was in Amazonia many times with both FL and barfine (there is no such thing by the way but call it girls from bar downstairs) and they never even once asked the Girl's ID. However, I am sure they will oblige if you ask the girl to hand them her ID.
I fail to see the need, though. Just never leave your money, that's all, and common sense. Be it in Amazonia or any other place. If you need to take a shower, undress in the bathroom then go out when you finished with your pants and keep it in sight.
The worst is when you take two girls. Then one can go through your belongings while you busy with the other. Need to watch out that too.
I have taken few LA cafe girls before ST to Amazonia when I had my GF staying with me in my hotel. I would sneak out to go to LA cafe. . The girls at the front desk upstairs never ever asked the girl for I.D. There was no reciept given. It is cash deal only. They go first to check the room to make sure it is clean before they give you the keys. Many a time I just wanted to relax after and let the girl go. Nobody ever called. I did not check- But I think there is no telephone in ST rooms.
However you should undress in the shower room and fold your clothes such a way that your money is hidden. No need to take open drink containers so that the girl will be tempted to drug you. Be carefull out there.
Even in my own room I lock away all the money and valuables in the safe when the girl goes to the bathroom. Better safe than sorry.
Sammon,
That is exactly what I need and only for 5-6 days while I am in Manila. Problem is that I cannot get around too well to hit a lot of bars with my injury. My experience with LA Cafe was that the girls there seemed less hardcore than other places and might be more willing for the arrangement. Since they are now closed, I am looking for a similar bar alternative. Is Amazonia my best bet? I am hoping to go when I arrive and then just chill in my hotel room for 5-6 days.
OAH
I do not know If Amazonia is the right place. My experience in Amazonia is the place was filled with hard core types. I have never taken a girl from there. The scenario might have changed since LA cafe is closed.
What you need is a trustworthy girl to stay and help you. I do not think any of the bargirls will fit your bill. They are more interested in opening their legs and running away with the money.
Maye you should try DIA and try to chat with some girls and make a offer. I have found many GFE types who stayed with me all the time. I am not really sure if they can help you walk around or any physical support. These girls are tiny and do not have the strength. I think you should target older girls who have a family to feed and will be more compassionate.
ManonsanBoy
08-26-10, 20:38
The total incompetence and probable mixed agenda of the so called special forces was there for all to see, in real time TV. Confirms my long held opinion the Philippines police are very good at extortion and bullying their own (and the odd foreigner) but totally incompetent when the hard stuff starts. It is such a tragedy because the people can be so intelligent and industrious. I will monger elsewhere for the time being.
Nightrider1
08-26-10, 21:11
The total incompetence and probable mixed agenda of the so called special forces was there for all to see, in real time TV. Confirms my long held opinion the Philippines police are very good at extortion and bullying their own (and the odd foreigner) but totally incompetent when the hard stuff starts. It is such a tragedy because the people can be so intelligent and industrious. I will monger elsewhere for the time being.
If anyone wants a VERY detailed and objective report on what transpired here it is..http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100825_botched_hostage_rescue_philippines?utm_source=SWeekly&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=100826&utm_content=readmore&elq=03413b8d790c4f368b5211bf63896a19
an account from one of the hostages in which the hostage said that a significant number of the hostage casualties were from "friendly" fire when the tear gas was sprayed in the bus. The hostages had been down below the seats or in the aisles, then stood up to run out because of the tear gas and got shot. Until that point, Mendoza had only caused two casualties. I wonder if there will be some kind of ballistics investigation to see who shot whom.Incredible. And apparently they didn't even managed to jam the cell phones around the bus. A show case of everything one should not do in such a hostage situation - and one whole hour to assault the bus? That would have left mendoza with enough time to do everybody. OTOH I am surprise that just one man with a gun can hold an entire bus. More easy said than done but if all passengers go on him at the same time I don't think he stands a chance. Question is of course who is going on first, and also it needs to be coordonotated somehow...
Econo Tech
08-27-10, 08:28
To brighten up the day - news is drifting fast that LA Cafe is opening NOW ..
If anybody is Manila, do take a look for the bar called "Manila Bay .. "
Atleast there is some hope for Philippines.
In 2009, I picked up two friends from LA Cafe. Girl A and Girl B. Both of them 9/10. After spending the night together in Hyatt Regency, we exchanged phone numbers and email addresses. Girl B came an visited me again. However girl B got married to a guy from Coos Bay, Oregon and she kept contact with me. When I drive to California from Seattle or just for two day trips to Oregon, always come and visit me in Indian Casino where I stay. Coos Bay is a little bit away from I-5, but it always pays off.
Morale of the story; you can get the girl out of LA Cafe but you can not get LA Cafe out of her.
I do not know If Amazonia is the right place. My experience in Amazonia is the place was filled with hard core types. I have never taken a girl from there. The scenario might have changed since LA cafe is closed.
What you need is a trustworthy girl to stay and help you. I do not think any of the bargirls will fit your bill. They are more interested in opening their legs and running away with the money.
Maye you should try DIA and try to chat with some girls and make a offer. I have found many GFE types who stayed with me all the time. I am not really sure if they can help you walk around or any physical support. These girls are tiny and do not have the strength. I think you should target older girls who have a family to feed and will be more compassionate.
I went to LA cafe this afternoon about 4-30pm. The place has now reopened as Manila Bay Cafe. I chatted to the doorman who said it was a 'sister company' to the old LA Cafe! (Whatever that means!) He said it was exactly the same as the old LA Cafe! I popped my head through the door, but didn't have time to go inside and check it out. It was a bit quieter than usual but it was early...seemed like the old place...maybe just a different name!
BurnMax2007
08-27-10, 18:41
I went to Amazonia around 22:45, it was not busy which surprised me. A couple of ugly hookers started talking to me and told me that LA Cafe had reopened that day and a lot of the girls had gone there instead of Amazonia. LA Cafe was busy when I arrived and full by the time I left a little after midnight. The upstairs didn't seem to be open.
In 2009, I picked up two friends from LA Cafe. Girl A and Girl B. Both of them 9/10. After spending the night together in Hyatt Regency, we exchanged phone numbers and email addresses. Girl B came an visited me again. However girl B got married to a guy from Coos Bay, Oregon and she kept contact with me. When I drive to California from Seattle or just for two day trips to Oregon, always come and visit me in Indian Casino where I stay. Coos Bay is a little bit away from I-5, but it always pays off.
Morale of the story; you can get the girl out of LA Cafe but you can not get LA Cafe out of her.
Do you pay her LA Cafe prices! LOL
To brighten up the day - news is drifting fast that LA Cafe is opening NOW ..
If anybody is Manila, do take a look for the bar called "Manila Bay .. "
Atleast there is some hope for Philippines.Wow, I thought all hope was lost. I did not plan to stop in Manila and just head straight to AC but now may have to perhaps stopover in manila for a few days to check things out.
FZ
Fast Eddie 48
08-28-10, 23:57
Incredible. And apparently they didn't even managed to jam the cell phones around the bus. A show case of everything one should not do in such a hostage situation - and one whole hour to assault the bus? That would have left mendoza with enough time to do everybody. OTOH I am surprise that just one man with a gun can hold an entire bus. More easy said than done but if all passengers go on him at the same time I don't think he stands a chance. Question is of course who is going on first, and also it needs to be coordonotated somehow...Denom,
They cannnot even get the door open very poorly trained, I cannot believe in a big city like manila don't have a swat team or a terroist team in place, I saw a bunch of idoit trying to open the bus door and break the rear bus window with a hammer, I am sure some of the hostage is shot by police but we will never know the true the Phillipine goverment will cover this up, I been to manila 5 time the last 6 yr not sure I will want to ever go back.
Fast Eddie 48
Econo Tech
08-29-10, 17:05
Denom,
They cannnot even get the door open very poorly trained, I cannot believe in a big city like manila don't have a swat team or a terroist team in place, I saw a bunch of idoit trying to open the bus door and break the rear bus window with a hammer, I am sure some of the hostage is shot by police but we will never know the true the Phillipine goverment will cover this up, I been to manila 5 time the last 6 yr not sure I will want to ever go back.
Fast Eddie 48But this really takes the cake, after the folly of placing a national flag on the coffin of the hostage taker (and many others)!
Wah, life in Philippines is never a dull day.
Manila police OIC accused of kidnapping Hong Kong drug suspects
By Cecille Suerte Felipe (The Philippine Star) Updated August 27, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (23) View comments
MANILA, Philippines - A former police undercover agent described as an “insult” to the Hong Kong people the appointment of Senior Superintendent Francisco Villaroman as acting director of the Manila Police District (MPD), replacing Chief Superintendent Rodolfo Magtibay who went on leave following the mishandling of the hostage rescue operation in Rizal Park last Monday.
Mary Ong, alias Rosebud, expressed opposition to the appointment of Villaroman, whom she said has several pending cases filed at the Sandiganbayan, including the alleged kidnapping of two Hong Kong residents who were suspected drug dealers.
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And an article that gives 'perspective' to the whole idea a-la life in the Philippines Islands ..
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The Philippine drama
Sat, Aug 28, 2010
Sin Chew DailyThe Philippines has become the latest target of international reproof and ridicule.
The whole world watched the incident, which was a concoction of many different genres of drama, unfolding on the TV.
It began with a sitcom:
An ex-police officer hijacked a tourist bus just to demand a reinstatement. That was a typical topic for a sitcom, which tackles day-to-day problems in a superlatively elaborate style.
What happened next was a farce.
The hostage-taker looked relaxed while the police did not seem to take things too seriously.
Both sides were seen negotiating in a "chit chat" manner at the door of the hijacked bus, interrupted at times by the delivery of dinner and drinking water.
What took place next was an impromptu plot:
Police cops, some fat and some thin, were seen circling around the bus, armed with short or long guns, some in riot gears and bulletproof vests while some in casual plainclothes.
They only had one thing in common: having no idea what do do, like an impromptu plot without a proper sketch and designated roles where the players were made to act whichever way they liked.
What followed then was a black comedy:
The police broke the window, but forgot about the stairs. They went into the bus through the safety door, but very soon retreated. They did not use a modern invention called "explosive" to blow up the door, but a primitive hammer that did not seem to work very effectively.
After that, it was the criminal psychology la Hollywood in play:
The police had the slightest idea what was taking place inside the bus, but thanks to the TV onboard, the hijacker had the government's every single move at his finger tips, including the ill-conceived arrest of his brother which triggered the hijacker to kill and gave the plot a dramatic twist.
In the end, it was most definitely a tragedy.
Nine innocent lives were sacrificed, along with the reputation of Manila.
The grand finale was a satire, a marriage of absurdity, incompetence, ignorance and extreme violence.
The absurd thing was: an ex-police officer resorted to hostage-taking to get his post reinstated. If we go a bit deeper, this could have been a grotesque approach for a ex-police inspector to seek justice for himself under a corrupt regime.
The ignorance and incompetence derive from the adoption of all the fallacious tactics in handling this crisis, showing that the Philippine authorities were low in crisis awareness, judgement capability, effective strategies and command giving.
The violent thing was that a disgruntled ex-police officer took the hostages' lives as a bet in his own pursuit of justice.
The whole thing should not be seen as merely an incidental or isolated case.
While the confrontation between a blood-thirsty killer and an incompetent police squad could happen in Manila, it could also take place anywhere else in this world.
But such tragic eventuality will only occur in a highly inefficient, corrupt and disorderly regime that lacks professionalism and effective leadership.
Only in a mismanaged country where social orders are in tatters will such incidents find a fertile ground to prosper.
FreebieFan
08-30-10, 01:09
Wheels down in Manila last Wednesday afternoon.
Head to the mall to meet Ms R, the ex virgin but who is now growing up fast. 5ft 2, 100 pounds. She had just had her 21st birthday so a pair of nice sexy denim shorts and high heels were her choice of gifts from me.
Needless to say the shorts went on, then off again in quick succession. She spent the night and we had simple sexual fun.
Next day had breakfast with a very cute gal, Ms J, who I had bonked last year. She's only 5ft and only 40kgs but lots of fun. Since then she has a full time boyfriend with who she lives in an apartment block near mine. We met for a "hows your life" sort of breakfast. Small but immensely pretty and a real character. I thought it was only breakfast. More to follow.
I did some work then was in Makati by 2pm for Ms R2, a lady working in Mall of Asia, 23, 44 kgs. We did the usual " where are you dance" but finally met near the Dusit. Slim, sunny, happy and with a sweet smile. We went to Eurotel, where unfortuately I discovered that her baby had reduced her mams to sad sagging breast bags and the stomach wasnt a pretty sight. Never mind, she was a happy gal.
From there headed into " there was an English, Australian and American in a bar" territory. Namely meeting up with Red Kilt and Manta Ray. Had a fun evening exchanging war stories. Nice to meet you guys and hope to do so next trip.
From there a quick ride to the mall to find Ms B. 5ft 2, and 95 pounds, a long time bonk friend of mine. She gave me a delighfully invigorating massage and I in turn gave her a delighfully invigorating bonk.
Dropped her off in the morning and went and had breakfast where MS J joined me again, this time dropping a few hints about her availability. She knows I play in Manila and knew I had a full schedule but she sweetly asked if I could make a "slot" for her. How could I say no! She also said her bf only does her twice a month. No idea why not as she's gorgeous.
From there it became an action packed day as follows.
Went to Makati and met Ms C. I think she's 32 but looks fine. 5ft 2, probably 95 pounds. Always declaring her love for me on yahoo. That type. I was hapy to meet her, take her to Eurotel, have a nice bonk, then after getting her a Peso 700 new battery for her phone, left her. A nice morning.
Home for a well earned siesta.
Then to Ms J's office to pick her up, quick dash to my place where we delightfully sat on hand on knees on the floor, hiked up her dress to show she had no panties and said cheekily " do you like what you see"? Hell yes.
2 hours later, dropped her, then went to meet Ms J2. Nice view from behind her but face wasnt quite as good as in her photos. 5ft 4, 100 pounds.
We met, exchanged hellos then she had a 5 minute hissy fit when she realised I was married. " you didn't tell me? " " you didn't ask etc.
Having already bonked two ladies that day I was already satiated so I quickly established control by stating if she didn't like, she could go home.
She quickly calmed down, decided to have a drink with me and then took her home. She was ok, and if memory serves me well, the 3am bonk was quite active. Dropped her off in the morning and had a well earned breakfast alone.
During breakfast Ms J sent me a sweeet sms asking if I had time for her in the morning as she wanted more. Who was I to refuse.
Met her and went back to my place, and as Id found it painful on my knees licking her out the day before, this time I picked her up, put her on her naked back on the dining table, pulled up a chair and comfortably gave here what she said was the licking of her life!
Two hours later were done. And I'm totally done. Well, for a few hours anyway.
Went to work and then after a few beers in Burgos met Ms T. We had been exchanging funny texts and I love women with a sharp sense of humour. We met, had drinks, then more drinks and then it seemed natural to have more drinks in my place. We finished drinking at 2am, started making out like kids and bonked at 4am. And again at 8am.
By now I really thought I was finished!
But Ms J again pops up and asks can I give her a "slot". This time I refused, I realy was tired.
However rejuventated after breakfast decided that Ms R, the first one should also be the last. Agreed to meet in a mall and I saw her standing there looking very nice in her new shorts an high heels. She was also surrounded by 3-4 Filipino boys, maybe 20 years old, all trying to tell her jokes and probably to get her phone number too.
I casually walked up to her, patted her ass, gave her a long kiss, and smiled at the boys and said " she likes men, not boys.come back in a few years". LOL. The boys faces went from happy to sad in a moment of nano seconds.
After all my exterions I actually didn't think I could perform. But managed to do her front and back!
Then to the airport and was asleep before wheels were even up. Not unexpectedly.
And so another weekend of total exceess is stored in the memory banks.
Does anyone have an update on the night life of Manila Bay Cafe formerly known as LA Cafe? Any scams? I am not sure if the police traps are still in place for extortion towards foreigners.
La Cafe ist now Manila Bay Cafe.
You can see it on the picture.
Wheels down in Manila last Wednesday afternoon.
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And so another weekend of total exceess is stored in the memory banks.
As I said when we met FF, you are a MACHINE.
Manta Ray and I met up with FF. He was a few minutes late at 7pm rushing from one of his dates, and after meeting us he dropped the news that he had "only" 2.5 hours with us because another one (Ms B) was lined up waiting for him at 10pm.
To use an Aussie line - "I'm buggared if I know how you do it".
Great meeting you mate. You are definitely one of the better Pommies around, and I look forward to catching up again next trip (in between bonks of course)
Do you pay her LA Cafe prices! LOLNo, freebee
Fast Eddie 48
08-30-10, 18:53
But this really takes the cake, after the folly of placing a national flag on the coffin of the hostage taker (and many others)!
Wah, life in Philippines is never a dull day.
The Philippines has become the latest target of international reproof and ridicule.
The whole world watched the incident, which was a concoction of many different genres of drama, unfolding on the TV.
It began with a sitcom:\To econo tech
Hey buddy look at the bright side if this country is not so screw up, we cannot find cheap labor low cost call center girl that work for peanut or get cheap p4p to give us the GFE all night for nothing.
Fast Eddie 48
LA aka MBC Prices are between 1200-1500 PHP LT.
People who pay more are stupid!
La Cafe ist now Manila Bay Cafe.
You can see it on the picture.They even kept the logo. Let's see how long it lasts, since Lim vowed to make sure it does not re-open under a new name. Let's just hope his new job as Tourism Secretary (haha) keeps him too busy to bother with it. Anyway after the bus fiasco they may be starving for tourists now.
They even kept the logo. Let's see how long it lasts, since Lim vowed to make sure it does not re-open under a new name. Let's just hope his new job as Tourism Secretary (haha) keeps him too busy to bother with it. Anyway after the bus fiasco they may be starving for tourists now.I think that Alfredo Lim has some splainig to do...he was in charge of the hostage negotiations.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100831/ap_on_re_as/as_philippines_bus_hostages
WestCoast1
08-31-10, 06:31
Tried to PM you with some info MS. Can't.
And so another weekend of total exceess is stored in the memory banks.FF, you are an absolute inspiration to all of us. I have the feeling you live a short plane ride away from the PI, that is why you are able to do these quick/intense weekend runs. I have often said that if i lived closer than the US i would fly in every weekend and do exactly what you do.
I have to know, how old of a guy are you?
It absolutely amazes me the amount of sex you can have in a short amount of time!
If you have a secret to getting it up this many times please share it with us so we can try to match you?
Thanks for a great story!
FreebieFan
09-01-10, 01:27
FF, you are an absolute inspiration to all of us. I have the feeling you live a short plane ride away from the PI, that is why you are able to do these quick/intense weekend runs. I have often said that if i lived closer than the US i would fly in every weekend and do exactly what you do.
I have to know, how old of a guy are you?
It absolutely amazes me the amount of sex you can have in a short amount of time!
If you have a secret to getting it up this many times please share it with us so we can try to match you?
Thanks for a great story!Hi Devils1,
Well thankfully I'm only a 3. 5 hour plane ride away and have the ability to find "reasons" (aka excuses) to go to Manila.
I'm happily between 50.55, not overweight, not bald, but not Brad Pitt either, but have a lifelong love of Filipinas as an extra motivation. Somehow I just love meeting them, and scoring with them. I really think they enjoy the same as theres never any need to persuade.
This last trip I really outdid myself and luckily the Kamagra (generic Viagra that I buy in BKK) that I used did the trick wonderfully well.
Having said that I did have a 12 hour sleep on getting home!
FreebieFan
09-01-10, 02:11
Filipinas are generally bought up by their yaya's (maids) who teach them all sorts of cute little facial expressions but also universally teach them the dreaded words " I don't like ".
As they grow older they retain this aspect of their childhood, whereupon " I don't like" is used not because someone has actually a logical aversion to something but a percieved aversion to something untried.
For instance, try giving a Filipina a foodtype they may be unfamiliar with and many will simply say " I don't like " never having seen, touched or tasted said foodtype before.
And so it was during my recent Manila marathon when on more than one ocassion I thought I would entertain a naked and splayed lady with a new and particularly pulsating vibrator (having of course previously bonked her).
The common comment was " I don't like " and upon further investigation when asked if they had ever seen or felt a vibrator, the answer was " no ".
One lady, who succumbed to the charms of a vibrator exclaimed " this is nice " although in fairness she did have a vibrator in her pussy and one in her ass and didn't know whether to smile cry or scream.
But for sure, she won't be saying " I don't like " till she's tried, in the future,.
OK morning rant over!
FF, you are an absolute inspiration to all of us. I have the feeling you live a short plane ride away from the PI, that is why you are able to do these quick/intense weekend runs. I have often said that if i lived closer than the US i would fly in every weekend and do exactly what you do.
I have to know, how old of a guy are you?
It absolutely amazes me the amount of sex you can have in a short amount of time!
If you have a secret to getting it up this many times please share it with us so we can try to match you?
Thanks for a great story!Just wanna step in here & say it depends on the woman. I can take all the Cialis/Viagra in the world but if she is not into it neither am I. This is the beauty of places like Philippines, once they relax, the chicks dig getting naughty with an out of town'er far from the prying eyes of family/friends.
AV
Just wanna step in here & say it depends on the woman. I can take all the Cialis/Viagra in the world but if she is not into it neither am I. This is the beauty of places like Philippines, once they relax, the chicks dig getting naughty with an out of town'er far from the prying eyes of family/friends.
AV
I agree totally with you AV.
I was with 2 women last weekend
Saturday it took me all my time to get one shot away.
Sunday I managed 3 shots in 2 hours and surprised myself. I realised it was the girl who was responsible as we were very compatible and she was hot.
BTW, that's not to take anything away from FF though. He really is a machine (as I said before)
FreebieFan
09-01-10, 07:13
I agree totally with you AV.
I was with 2 women last weekend
Saturday it took me all my time to get one shot away.
Sunday I managed 3 shots in 2 hours and surprised myself. I realised it was the girl who was responsible as we were very compatible and she was hot.
BTW, that's not to take anything away from FF though. He really is a machine (as I said before)I'm with you too. And as my urologist told me many times, sex is all in the head. Luckily on this trip, I had lots of head. Altho I've also spent many ocassions when I've been pounding away for hours with not a lot happening.
Does anyone have an update on the night life of Manila Bay Cafe formerly known as LA Cafe? Any scams? I am not sure if the police traps are still in place for extortion towards foreigners.
I did not see any police traps going into LA Cafe or leaving either. They are probably keeping a low profile and doubt they will target tourist for a while. After the Mendoza hostage botch up, they will probably need to rebuild some tourist goodwill. So I am guessing any tourist are out of season for them.
Manila Bay Cafe or even HK Hostage 8 Cafe may be a more relevant name (geographically speaking) than LA Cafe, but the LA Cafe name is so ingrained in many taxi drivers, I think you will have to use LA Cafe for a long time as a destination instead of Manila Bay.
Taxi driver still thought it was closed. Recommended some club called Dynasty (probably getting some kickbacks). Told him I was not interested. Surprisingly quite a few nice ones at Amazonia.
Saw only 1 FL at Havana. She was past her "used by" date.
Manila Bay (LA Cafe) had about less than half the number of girls I normally find. Bands still playing upstairs as usual for 100p entry. There were less than half dozen FL upstairs. Only a couple in the pool room.
Got my take out from EDSA after recon at MBC (ex-LAC), Amazonia and Havana.
In 2009, I picked up two friends from LA Cafe. Girl A and Girl B. Both of them 9/10. After spending the night together in Hyatt Regency, we exchanged phone numbers and email addresses. Girl B came an visited me again. However girl B got married to a guy from Coos Bay, Oregon and she kept contact with me. When I drive to California from Seattle or just for two day trips to Oregon, always come and visit me in Indian Casino where I stay. Coos Bay is a little bit away from I-5, but it always pays off.
Morale of the story; you can get the girl out of LA Cafe but you can not get LA Cafe out of her.You're learning. Many guy's don't until it's way too late. Guess it's only a matter of time before girl b's hubby finds out & becomes yet another sob story.
AV
I think that Alfredo Lim has some splainig to do...he was in charge of the hostage negotiations.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100831/ap_on_re_as/as_philippines_bus_hostagesGreat find, Socker! It does not transpire through the link you provide but it does through this one:
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=606521&publicationSubCategoryId=63
Now why am I not surprised?
Wicked Roger
09-01-10, 13:51
Filipinas are generally bought up by their yaya's (maids) who teach them all sorts of cute little facial expressions but also universally teach them the dreaded words " I don't like ".
As they grow older they retain this aspect of their childhood, whereupon " I don't like" is used not because someone has actually a logical aversion to something but a percieved aversion to something untried.
For instance, try giving a Filipina a foodtype they may be unfamiliar with and many will simply say " I don't like " never having seen, touched or tasted said foodtype before.
And so it was during my recent Manila marathon when on more than one ocassion I thought I would entertain a naked and splayed lady with a new and particularly pulsating vibrator (having of course previously bonked her).
The common comment was " I don't like " and upon further investigation when asked if they had ever seen or felt a vibrator, the answer was " no ".
One lady, who succumbed to the charms of a vibrator exclaimed " this is nice " although in fairness she did have a vibrator in her pussy and one in her ass and didn't know whether to smile cry or scream.
But for sure, she won't be saying " I don't like " till she's tried, in the future,.
OK morning rant over!
A good observation FF. I always say how can you say you dont like when you have never tried....a challenge like that can be irresistible to a pinay
And to see their faces when they realise it is fun and we enjoy watching them is priceless. Hence I try to accessorise wherever possible my evil twin and have the butt plugs etc ready as invariably the lady is a Greek virgin and being the classical language educator that I am I always like to give them thier first lesson...followed by more later :D
Take my Cebu favourite....food can be a more awkward obstacle than sexual...maybe I am only good in one sort of lesson? For the latter she loves new things as she is comfortable with me etc...as RK said, when they are relaxed and so are you it is much more fun. As a result she is very open to try new things hence her love of BDSM, spanking, and generally all things naughty (RK is hopeful of finding this out soon if he gets to Cebu)
Hopefully our schedules will amtch soon and the twins can meet, swap stories and ladies and toys...:D
Wicked Roger
09-01-10, 13:55
Hi Devils1,
I'm happily between 50.55, not overweight, not bald, but not Brad Pitt either, but have a lifelong love of Filipinas as an extra motivation. Somehow I just love meeting them, and scoring with them. I really think they enjoy the same as theres never any need to persuade.
FF
Is that how you describe yourself......;) Definitely not Brad Pitt as I am :D
I thought from the description you were describing me ;) but then we are twins of a sort am sure...and we both enjoy our pinays
See you soon
Starchild2012
09-01-10, 14:51
Great find, Socker! It does not transpire through the link you provide but it does through this one:
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=606521&publicationSubCategoryId=63
Now why am I not surprised?
6400 comments in yahoo and counting...I don't think if the tourists were from UK, US or any other European country...we would have seen this kinda backlash.
During mumbai terrorist attack couple of years ago, more than 30 tourist were killed mostly from UK and US, it got the same media attention....Indian authorities were stupid and took 14 hours to get their special task force to rescue the hostage..apparently, the elite force were stationed in delhi and they had no fuel ready to come to Mumbai..they were criticized by the Israeli mossed for not being upto mark..as they were unable to save a rabbi family....Army was called in and they took 3 days to rescue all hostage and more than 300 people were killed. I was in mumbai and watched closely all the pathetic attempts to rescue hostages.
No body from UK and US cared what happened to the degree we are seeing in Philippines.
My point is if it wasn't for emerging China...no body would have made such a noise. All UK and US would have done is accept the apology and go on with life...i don't think we would have seen 80,000 people in US protest against Philippine's.
Man i never thought the backlash would be this severe against filipinos. they are not that bad. s*hit happens in third world countries. I would forever be wary of Hong Kongers....no hanky panky business with any Chinese to Hong kong folks :)
Starchild2012
09-01-10, 15:00
i did not see any police traps going into la cafe or leaving either. they are probably keeping a low profile and doubt they will target tourist for a while. after the mendoza hostage botch up, they will probably need to rebuild some tourist goodwill. so i am guessing any tourist are out of season for them.
manila bay cafe or even hk hostage 8 cafe may be a more relevant name (geographically speaking) than la cafe, but the la cafe name is so ingrained in many taxi drivers, i think you will have to use la cafe for a long time as a destination instead of manila bay.
taxi driver still thought it was closed. recommended some club called dynasty (probably getting some kickbacks). told him i was not interested. surprisingly quite a few nice ones at amazonia.
saw only 1 fl at havana. she was past her "used by" date.
manila bay (la cafe) had about less than half the number of girls i normally find. bands still playing upstairs as usual for 100p entry. there were less than half dozen fl upstairs. only a couple in the pool room.
got my take out from edsa after recon at mbc (ex-lac), amazonia and havana.
they better not mess with manila bay or any other touristy places....lots of asian's visits la cafe...the last thing lim would want is get involved in another fiasco.
even if a hong konger or we monger walk naked in manila, get drunk or f*ck in open highway....they better look the other way :)
every leader in ph is on the edge....the last thing they would want at this time is take issue's with a tourist.
FreebieFan
09-02-10, 01:15
A good observation FF. I always say how can you say you dont like when you have never tried....a challenge like that can be irresistible to a pinay
And to see their faces when they realise it is fun and we enjoy watching them is priceless. Hence I try to accessorise wherever possible my evil twin and have the butt plugs etc ready as invariably the lady is a Greek virgin and being the classical language educator that I am I always like to give them thier first lesson...followed by more later :D
Take my Cebu favourite....food can be a more awkward obstacle than sexual...maybe I am only good in one sort of lesson? For the latter she loves new things as she is comfortable with me etc...as RK said, when they are relaxed and so are you it is much more fun. As a result she is very open to try new things hence her love of BDSM, spanking, and generally all things naughty (RK is hopeful of finding this out soon if he gets to Cebu)
Hopefully our schedules will amtch soon and the twins can meet, swap stories and ladies and toys...:DReady when you are Bro. My next trip is scheduled for October. Will let you know dates when I have a trip planned and "approved ".
Anyone stayed at the City State Hotel on Mabini st. Just wondering if the price is good and if it's a GF hotel.
Thanks,
FZ
Econo Tech
09-02-10, 04:32
man i never thought the backlash would be this severe against filipinos. they are not that bad. s*hit happens in third world countries. i would forever be wary of hong kongers. no hanky panky business with any chinese to hong kong folksnot at all. the filipinos always have a habit of stoking the fire. and then wonder why others are mad at them.
i safe bet. 99% of filipinos sort of justify the killing, and more than 50% demand that the hostage taker deserves a state funeral (trust me. i am not kidding)
and majority again compare china's human rights record and also persistently quote the case of a mad man in china who killed two filipinos (mistaking the filipinos for japanese) and since china didn't come crawling for the odd attack on tourists (mind you. it wasn't a hostage situation. it was a random attack by a deranged guy. who ended up being sentanced to death and was put to death by china)
so there you go. try striking some sense into the filipinos as to they royally screwed it up.
i don't blame the hk people. who would see the comedy unfolding? and more than enough filipinos have taken it on donald "bow tie" tsang for his attempts to reach noynoy. apparently protocol says he is the equivalent of mayor lim. so he over stepped his authority trying to reach the president. now, if you hear the cm of maharashtra trying to call the philippine president for a hostage situation involving indians, and the filipinos calmly say to the cm to call the manila mayor as he is the equivalent of manila mayor. you think indians will take such a comment in stride?
and hong kongers, while they may have overstepped their authority. and whatever, have a long relationship with filipinos. including the famous words of a hk personality who called filipinos as a "nation of servants" and probably the filipinos decided it was payback time and let them rot.
in mumbai, it was a large scale attack and everything was in disarray. here. it was one man, who gave more than enough chance to be taken out.
to add to everything: a filipino friend of mine. of the type with more moral fiber told me that the hostage taker would have planned in a deadly ending, as firstly, he will be a martyr, secondly, he will get burial in full uniform and maybe a flag draped across (he got that didn't he?. and the reply from rp was rp is a democratic country and if people drape the flag over the coffin. too bad..) and if not to add insult to the injury, my friend swears that the cop won in the end: enough of filipinos would donate money to the family and whatever he had lost in terms of his retirement benefits. his family would make more than that
go figure that out
ps: as for mayor lim steering clear of foreigners? no. i don't think so. for rp. foreigners are source of income and that will continue. they may slow down but a cop early 6, 000 peso a month will be always more than tempted to take some more from a silly foreigner if the opportunity presented itself.
Econo Tech
09-02-10, 04:45
And Hong Kongers, while they may have overstepped their authority. And whatever, have a long relationship with Filipinos. Including the famous words of a HK personality who called Filipinos as a "NATION OF SERVANTS" and probably the filipinos decided it was payback time and let them rot.Another filipino calmly asked me to check how many filipinos were hurt in the cluster fuck up - vs the HK tourists:
Answer. Apart from the hostage taker, it was just one kid who was hit by a stray bullet: not even the rescuing cops were hit. Now one could only surmise that either the Filipino cops were super protected or. They hostages were killed by the rescuers. In an emotionally charged state. Many answers can be extracted from this simple statistic.
WestCoast1
09-02-10, 05:11
Anyone stayed at the City State Hotel on Mabini st. Just wondering if the price is good and if it's a GF hotel.
Thanks,
FZI don't like the place, the room is small, sub-par. Nearby is also the Lotus Garden and City-State, about the same price ($45) for the low-end rooms, slightly nicer.
Great find, Socker! It does not transpire through the link you provide but it does through this one:
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=606521&publicationSubCategoryId=63
Now why am I not surprised?Yea, the link I tried to post had the info on Lim, somehow I messed it up a little, thanks for the help. I hope Lim loses his job and things loosen up again for you guys. My first trip to PI is coming up Nov. 1st, going to AC and Cebu. From what I've read about Manila, I will skip it this time. All The Best!
They better not mess with Manila bay or any other touristy places....lots of Asian's visits LA cafe...the last thing Lim would want is get involved in another fiasco................
The number of "tourists" who visit LAC (now MBC) is a tiny blip on the radar StarChild.
These small-scale low-budget "tourists" are absolutely nothing in the computation of overall figures.
It is the large 5-star hotel convention and "company training" figures that they are interested in.
Did you know that most of the 5-star hotels in Makati (Shang, Peninsula, Oriental) and Oakwood Premier in Ortigas are running at almost 80% occupation rates at present with big-paying company accounts filling the rooms.
That is why nobody in authority cares much about what happens in Burgos or EDSA or even MBC. The peanuts spent by mongers don't count when you realise that there are some guys who spend 100 - 200,000 php PER NIGHT in selected establishments, and I dont mean the casinos either.
It is another reason why the high-end escort agencies seem to charge such high prices for one -off bookings. They have enough punters who pay these charges. I have a friend who has a "high-end" escort girl as a gf - she expects and gets upwards of 50,000 per night from some of these guys in tips, and sometimes 2 or 3 times each week. Two weeks ago a punter took her to Singapore for a week and apart from the 1st class travel etc she pocketed a cool 5000 USD tip.
So let's not get too carried away that the Philippines is dependent on mongers visiting. Believe me, it's not.
Starchild2012
09-02-10, 14:08
Not at all. The filipinos always have a habit of stoking the fire. And then wonder why others are mad at them.
I safe bet. 99% of filipinos sort of justify the killing, and more than 50% demand that the hostage taker deserves a state funeral (trust me. I am not kidding)
You are right, my perspective always gets clouded by comparing it with India which is as corrupt as PH
The number of "tourists" who visit LAC (now MBC) is a tiny blip on the radar StarChild.
These small-scale low-budget "tourists" are absolutely nothing in the computation of overall figures.
It is the large 5-star hotel convention and "company training" figures that they are interested in.
True...I hope the good times as short as it may be continues till the end of the year till im there. :)
Anyone stayed at the City State Hotel on Mabini st. Just wondering if the price is good and if it's a GF hotel.
Thanks,
FZMany times FZ. Yes the price is good value. Is it GF? I've had as many as 4 (four) girls stay the night with me there (at once). The doorman there has a smile that gets broader & broader every time I go there I swear hehehe ;)
Just book a double occupancy & no questions will be asked about your companion (even if its not the same one all night). If you are going to have more than one extra body with you overnight (as in two girls at once, three girls at once or more) then do the right thing, inform reception & pay the modest fee.
This hotel has a wide asian clientelle including farangs with their honeyko's/wives so act with decorum in the public areas & you will have zero problems.
City state is normally near 100% occupancy all year round, book ahead.
AV
I don't like the place, the room is small, sub-par. Nearby is also the Lotus Garden and City-State, about the same price ($45) for the low-end rooms, slightly nicer.Well, just one can't tell from the room photos that the City State uses. The standard room actually look large and clean and new.
BTW, is there another City-State hotel nearby?
I'll check out the lotus Garden in the meantime.
Thanks
FZ
Econo Tech
09-03-10, 04:58
It is another reason why the high-end escort agencies seem to charge such high prices for one -off bookings. They have enough punters who pay these charges. I have a friend who has a "high-end" escort girl as a gf - she expects and gets upwards of 50,000 per night from some of these guys in tips, and sometimes 2 or 3 times each week. Two weeks ago a punter took her to Singapore for a week and apart from the 1st class travel etc she pocketed a cool 5000 USD tip.
So let's not get too carried away that the Philippines is dependent on mongers visiting. Believe me, it's not.I too ran into some girls, who used to go out partying with me in Singapore, and we were just party mates, and when I was heading to Manila, I asked one of the girls if she can find a 'companion' per se. Just to test the waters, and she said she can refer her friends and they will cost 15, 000 per night. I was wondering which planet this woman fell out from, when she said the girls normally charge 30, 000 per night.
I did go, meet her in her own environs and went out partying, and she and her friends too me to Tabu, for a group of 12, there was one Martell, one Blue Label, and one Bacardi. And when they left, they didn't bother to bank in the balance, and they didn't ask me to chip in, and I got the point.
There was a couple of guys hitting on the girls, and one of the girl whisphered that they guys whole worth is less than her hand bag.
Well, not everybody heading to Manila is cheap. And as you say, most of the 5 star hotels are booked at 80% or so. Regardless whether Mr Lim stays, or fucks poor tourists, or there is another Lunetta Drama.
Fast Eddie 48
09-03-10, 06:13
Another filipino calmly asked me to check how many filipinos were hurt in the cluster fuck up - vs the HK tourists:
Answer. Apart from the hostage taker, it was just one kid who was hit by a stray bullet: not even the rescuing cops were hit. Now one could only surmise that either the Filipino cops were super protected or. They hostages were killed by the rescuers. In an emotionally charged state. Many answers can be extracted from this simple statistic.Econo,
There are no crowd control people are only 50 yd away from the bus ,they should be 100 yd away and after the gunman is killed ,there are people all around the bus .
I read today DOT of philippine will lose about 70 million from touristism ,only about 140,000 Hong kong tourist visit PI last yr but they don't realise tourist from all around the world might not come to PI now because of this ,lucky they didn't take a Korean tour bus hostage or that will really hurt them.
Fast eddie 48
Link to my last FR on Manila from about 3 months back:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1032529&postcount=5239
Arrived from the ASEAN mainland into the PI early yesterday morning, for a bit of shopping and (a lot of) fun. Main purpose is to check out CEB, as I have not been there before. Made a mental note to try at least 1 place on my 'Misses' list in MNL from the last trip:
Cafe Havana, Harrison Plaza for mall pickups, Bautista *****houses, Quezon City Clubs.
Mall Pickups - Robinsons Malate
3 pm on a Thursday afternoon and in a span of a coffee, I counted at least 6-7 girls (1 or 2 a little scruffy) walking circles around the entrance, driveway and fountain out front. Number includes at least 1 or 2 baklas (TVs/she-males). Starbucks was buzzing, with no tables available outside. There was definite talent around here. Walking around inside the mall yielded less promising results, but then again I had *real* shopping to do!
Is it me or does there seem to be less Asian tourists these days because of the Mendoza incident? Reminder to self: avoid buses and disgruntled (and armed!) government employees. :D Interesting if not a little disconcerting to also note that related news to the incident is still making headlines in the Philippines Star and on RPN News. Yesterday's issue of the Star featured somebody innocuously named 'Rose'... who apparently gave Mendoza a lift to the Police Barracks where he got armed.
Cafe Havana
One look at this place this wet night at about 9 pm and I knew it was not my scene. Me: over-aged raver (mid-late 30s) and Asian expat from an ASEAN country living in a 3rd ASEAN country.
There was a table of older FLs sitting outside at Starbucks next door actively scoping the foreign men (mostly caucasian) arriving in groups or already with their dates. None I would care for. Some of the girls quite 'country', looking totally out of place at a Mall such as Greenbelt. Lone causasian gent (looked to be in his 60s) in jean shorts quietly nursing a beer at one of the tables outside. 2 big white guys with their posse of Pinays. A group of guys making the rounds, one wearing a polo shirt that said 'US Embassy, Manila, Philippines' on it. Small groups of (older) MILF-type Pinay talent at a table here and there. Nah. Did a couple of walk-pasts but did not care to stay for even a drink.
Manila Bay Cafe, aka the now-defunct LA Cafe
Due to the recent closure, this place is a pale shade of its former self. Walked in late last night, the downstairs bar was quite full, but the numbers seem to be about half of what they used to be. Went upstairs, the cover charge was quickly 'waived'. No bands playing as they have left for greener, more stable pastures. Band area practically empty. Korean contingent in the section by the long bar was still just that, only several tables occupied. Both pool tables were being used.
Stayed for a drink and left for EDSA Complex, where I pulled a sweetie at about 3 am for the usual PHP1600 BF. Gave her a PHP2500 'tip' as she left at about 11 am.
...Off to Cebu! Stayed tuned...
Wild Rover
09-03-10, 12:54
Link to my last FR on Manila from about 3 months back:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1032529&postcount=5239
Arrived from the ASEAN mainland into the PI early yesterday morning, for a bit of shopping and (a lot of) fun. Main purpose is to check out CEB, as I have not been there before. Made a mental note to try at least 1 place on my 'Misses' list in MNL from the last trip:
Cafe Havana, Harrison Plaza for mall pickups, Bautista *****houses, Quezon City Clubs.
Mall Pickups - Robinsons Malate
3 pm on a Thursday afternoon and in a span of a coffee, I counted at least 6-7 girls (1 or 2 a little scruffy) walking circles around the entrance, driveway and fountain out front. Number includes at least 1 or 2 baklas (TVs/she-males). Starbucks was buzzing, with no tables available outside. There was definite talent around here. Walking around inside the mall yielded less promising results, but then again I had *real* shopping to do!
Is it me or does there seem to be less Asian tourists these days because of the Mendoza incident? Reminder to self: avoid buses and disgruntled (and armed!) government employees. :D Interesting if not a little disconcerting to also note that related news to the incident is still making headlines in the Philippines Star and on RPN News. Yesterday's issue of the Star featured somebody innocuously named 'Rose'... who apparently gave Mendoza a lift to the Police Barracks where he got armed.
Cafe Havana
One look at this place this wet night at about 9 pm and I knew it was not my scene. Me: over-aged raver (mid-late 30s) and Asian expat from an ASEAN country living in a 3rd ASEAN country.
There was a table of older FLs sitting outside at Starbucks next door actively scoping the foreign men (mostly caucasian) arriving in groups or already with their dates. None I would care for. Some of the girls quite 'country', looking totally out of place at a Mall such as Greenbelt. Lone causasian gent (looked to be in his 60s) in jean shorts quietly nursing a beer at one of the tables outside. 2 big white guys with their posse of Pinays. A group of guys making the rounds, one wearing a polo shirt that said 'US Embassy, Manila, Philippines' on it. Small groups of (older) MILF-type Pinay talent at a table here and there. Nah. Did a couple of walk-pasts but did not care to stay for even a drink.
Manila Bay Cafe, aka the now-defunct LA Cafe
Due to the recent closure, this place is a pale shade of its former self. Walked in late last night, the downstairs bar was quite full, but the numbers seem to be about half of what they used to be. Went upstairs, the cover charge was quickly 'waived'. No bands playing as they have left for greener, more stable pastures. Band area practically empty. Korean contingent in the section by the long bar was still just that, only several tables occupied. Both pool tables were being used.
Stayed for a drink and left for EDSA Complex, where I pulled a sweetie at about 3 am for the usual PHP1600 BF. Gave her a PHP2500 'tip' as she left at about 11 am.
...Off to Cebu! Stayed tuned...You gave her p2, 500 tip?, W. T. F. That is what has fckd bar fines in Fields Avenue, Hotel maid get p 3, 000 per month.
Has anyone been to this bar.
Kyu Son Maru or 930.
It is a japanese bar in Malate. The lovely miss C tells me she works there as a waitress.
She says it is not exclusively Japanese, other foreigners go there.
The management only hire girls who are slim, pretty, with a decent rack. No flat chested.
I am interested in any Field Report which you can provide.
G
Go Big Red
09-03-10, 23:24
You gave her p2, 500 tip?, W. T. F. That is what has fckd bar fines in Fields Avenue, Hotel maid get p 3, 000 per month.And the wage of an AC maid is relevant to a Manila hooker how exactly?
Key Master
09-04-10, 00:52
Cafe Havana
One look at this place this wet night at about 9 pm and I knew it was not my scene. Me: over-aged raver (mid-late 30s) and Asian expat from an ASEAN country living in a 3rd ASEAN country.
There was a table of older FLs sitting outside at Starbucks next door actively scoping the foreign men (mostly caucasian) arriving in groups or already with their dates. None I would care for. Some of the girls quite 'country', looking totally out of place at a Mall such as Greenbelt. Lone causasian gent (looked to be in his 60s) in jean shorts quietly nursing a beer at one of the tables outside. 2 big white guys with their posse of Pinays. A group of guys making the rounds, one wearing a polo shirt that said 'US Embassy, Manila, Philippines' on it. Small groups of (older) MILF-type Pinay talent at a table here and there. Nah. Did a couple of walk-pasts but did not care to stay for even a drink.I've never been to Havana that early. Not even sure what time that place really gets going. Havana is hit and miss for me a lot, but have found some winners there on occasion.
WestCoast1
09-04-10, 01:22
I've never been to Havana that early. Not even sure what time that place really gets going. Havana is hit and miss for me a lot, but have found some winners there on occasion.I was in the Greenbelt HC a few weeks ago on a friday evening. Early, too, about 8pm. Bunches of girls at the tables, also at Starbucks, and outside heading towards the taxi exit. Literally as I was walking in, and later walking out, girls were hitting at me, "Where you going?" Some reached out to touch my arm or pants. Very unusual. Few days later I dropped by about 10pm, the place was dead.
I was in the Greenbelt HC a few weeks ago on a friday evening. Early, too, about 8pm. Bunches of girls at the tables, also at Starbucks, and outside heading towards the taxi exit. Literally as I was walking in, and later walking out, girls were hitting at me, "Where you going?" Some reached out to touch my arm or pants. Very unusual. Few days later I dropped by about 10pm, the place was dead.These would likely be lady boys. They are rather forthcoming and there's plenty of them at Greenbelt. You sometimes can't tell the difference without looking down their panty.
Econo Tech
09-04-10, 08:46
Econo,
There are no crowd control people are only 50 yd away from the bus, they should be 100 yd away and after the gunman is killed, there are people all around the bus.And my Range safety officer used to tell us that 300 meter is the safe zone for any rifle. And 200 meter for any hand gun.
I read today DOT of philippine will lose about 70 million from touristism, only about 140, 000 Hong Kong tourist visit PI last yr but they don't realise tourist from all around the world might not come to PI now because of this, lucky they didn't take a Korean tour bus hostage or that will really hurt them.They will focus on the missing HK tourists and ignore the rest who decided to cancel their plans.
From Singapore, atleast a few tour operators called cancellations to Philippines at an all time high, never mind that not many tourists head there anyway
PS: a few days before the bus thing, a Korean Pastor was shot in a robbery. In Manila, just a hundred yard from a mobile police beat.
Mall Pickups - Robinsons Malate
3 pm on a Thursday afternoon and in a span of a coffee, I counted at least 6-7 girls (1 or 2 a little scruffy) walking circles around the entrance, driveway and fountain out front. Number includes at least 1 or 2 baklas (TVs/she-males). Starbucks was buzzing, with no tables available outside. There was definite talent around here. Walking around inside the mall yielded less promising results, but then again I had *real* shopping to do!Sometimes very nice and cheap pick on the outside, but you need a bit of luck.
Inside, on upper floor, quite a few girls but almost impossible to get to speak to them on a one by one basis as almost always a Pim is going to intrude, uninvited, or the other way around (they will try to monopolise you before you get to the girls).
Pims there are very uneducated (showing the girls with their finger in full view of everybody) and most of them are in league with the police for extortion (even though the girl is major, they will try to claim that prostitution is illegal etc). Avoid.
But outside is usually ok, especially after the 9pm closure or late at night. They are pimped too but these are OK, especially if you have your own car. Takes only a couple of minutes to negotiate before packing the girl. Once got an incredible looker there late night for peanuts!
Day time outside and without pim may be ok too, not sure but maybe worth exploring.
BTW, is there another City-State hotel nearby?The only other one I know is near Quiapo church, but I would really not call that "nearby".
You gave her p2, 500 tip?, W. T. F. That is what has fckd bar fines in Fields Avenue, Hotel maid get p 3, 000 per month.
Who's talking about AC? This is Manila. I make it a point not to pay more than 'market' rate anywhere I monger, and I monger in every country in ASEAN. Except Myanmar and Brunei, for obvious (and respectively different reasons).
You gave her p2, 500 tip?, W. T. F. That is what has fckd bar fines in Fields Avenue, Hotel maid get p 3, 000 per month.
I think what this guy meant is LT price for the girl is 2500 pesos-not a tip.
In EDSA you need to pay the girl separately. Unlike AC where barfine includes everything and if the girl is good you give 300-500 Tip.
EDSA-you can negotiate it down to 2000 pesos for LT. Girls will accept 1500 pesos for ST apart from the barfine. Most girls from EDSA like to run away after ST. If you choose young girls they will stay with you. There is a rule there that if the girl is barfined she has to report to work the next day,so I was told. Once I Barfined a hostess from one of the bars who was real pretty with nice figure. She said she worked only part time there, her being a mistress of some lawyer in Manila. She even gave me his card. For the next three days she stayed with me from 4PM - 3 AM. The reason is she said her BF sometimes check on her to make sure she goes home directly after work in EDSA. Usually I take a dim view of these stories but this seems to e true as he did call many times while we were together. I had to pay her only 1500 pesos per day apart from dinner, drinks etc. She took me to some very nice restaurents and bars. Very nice classy company because she looked like a model. I elieve she said this lawyer takes care of all expenses including rent etc and gives her 10,000 pesos a month for pocket money. But she said they never go out in public and only sex sometimes in her apartment. She wanted me to go to her apartment to stay all night but I declined. Definitely did not want a lawyer with high connections in Manila as a enemy.
There are many good looking girls working in bars etc being "kept" by rich locals.
First, thanks again to everyone for the advice on hotels and where to find the action. I was only there a few nights but had a good time and I’m looking forward to returning.
The first night I had just got in from Thailand and was pretty beat from all the fun I had there. Plus the fact that I’m working all day long and can’t sleep in. So after my business associates turned in for the night I grabbed a cab and headed for the EDSA Complex. It has an interesting layout with the bars, but they all seem to have pretty much the same system going, the difference being the theme of the bar which to me is meaningless. I’m there for the girls, not to admire the décor.
The first place I hit was Pit Stop where I was one of maybe 5 customers on this Wednesday night at about 11PM. The girls were trying to get me to invite them to sit but I waited until a really pretty one came over. She was really shy though, so we had a few drinks but it was boring. It’s probably partly my fault as I was really beat from the flight and the long days and nights. So after a few San Miguels I left empty handed and tried out Space Girls. This one seemed even more dead and one of the non dancing hostesses sat down with me. She was actually OK looking and was doing a lot of grabbing so I bought her a drink. Being tired and spent from Thailand, I decided to take the night off and headed back to the hotel and got a good nights rest.
The second night it was off to Burgos. There were a lot more bars than I thought there would be and I tried a few out. Defnitely higher prices, but the quality of the girls seemed to be a bit higher and there was more fooling around in the booth, though nothing like Thailand. Mostly rubbing my crotch thru my jeans (no unzipping or hands inside) and them taking their tits out for a little kissing and sucking, but pussy contact was only thru their clothes. I had a hard time adjusting to the system for some reason so after visiting Bottoms Up and one other I had no luck.
What’s the deal with the non-dancing, non-good looking hostesses anyway? I can sort of understand the massage girls if you want a massage while talking to a pretty girl (with no intention of doing the massage girl), but the hostesses are another story. Why would I want to sit and talk and potentially bar fine an old, overweight, unattractive hostess when the bar is filled with young, sexy bikini-clad hotties? The problem is, the hostesses are so aggressive and force themselves on you so you have to be almost rude to get them to go. I suppose choosing a dancer would make them go away but I like to sit a while and check them all out and choose carefully.
Anyway, my third bar was Shampoo just off Burgos where I was literally the only customer until a few other guys came in later. I settled on 2 girls and had an OK time chatting and fooling around a bit in the booth, but it just didn’t seem worth it when they quoted the 3000 peso bar fine and 3000 peso LT fee on me. After I said no, mama dropped it to 2450 each (not sure where that number came from). I actually told her I’d do one for 2000 but she said no. The girl I sort of wanted to do was willing to drop her price too with the “up to you” thing. It’s not that I’m cheap, but I just wasn’t that into the girls or the scene so I left.
I was thinking of heading back to EDSA when I ran into 2 street girls who offered themselves for 1000 each. My experience was telling me don’t do it, but I figured for 2000 pesos I’d at least blow my load and maybe it’ll be OK since again I was really tired and had to leave for work the next morning at 7AM. So off to the Dusit we went. I’m not sure why, but I didn’t feel like going thru security and the lobby with these two plain looking girls so I made them come up after me. Dusit security called me to make sure and minutes later they were at my door. The other nice thing is that when they left, Dusit security called up to the room again to make sure nothing bad happened. I like that added security; one more thumbs up for the Dusit.
It turned out, the cuter but chubbier one was worthless in bed, but the older browner one was actually pretty good. I had a camera so we got the chubby girl to play photographer which she really got into. So at least I now have a bunch of pictures of myself going at it with the skinny girl.
After showers, they left and I was happy with the experience, but I was definitely looking forward to a way better experience the next night.
After a quiet first two nights recharging my batteries, for my last full night I decided to try out Havana which I had heard so much about. I got there about 10:30 and got a coffee at Starbucks. It was Friday night and the whole outside area was packed. It was pretty hard to tell who was “available” as most of the girls outside just seemed like normal non working girls. There were a few I know were “working” but they weren’t too good looking anyway. I went inside Havana and it was really packed. I got a drink and ID’ed the FLs but none were that attractive. Also, there were a lot of dudes on the prowl too, the ratio probably being 2 guys for every girl at best. I just couldn’t get into the scene so I hopped a cab and headed to EDSA.
I tried Cotton Club first and was happy to see a really good looking group of dancers. There was one girl who was having a good time on stage and she was pretty enough with a great, tight slim body. So I called her over and we moved to a couch and had a great time hanging out with her on my lap for the next 2 hours or so.
For sure I wasn’t letting her go so I bar fined her and off to the hotel we went. She was wearing these knee high leather boots and a pair of micro shorts that barely covered her tiny little ass. I’m sure there were some comments made as we strolled through the lobby, but the Dusit staff was cool about it.
After that it was some of the best GFE sex I’ve ever experienced anywhere until she left at 2PM the next afternoon. She was a real sweetheart and horny as hell. Luckily she liked to sleep and I was still catching up so it worked out great with a bunch of sessions followed by nice naps to recharge. I’d probably rate her in my top 10 ever of probably 300+ girls in Thailand. It was that good and she was that skilled and that sweet and affectionate.
I’ve done most of my playing in Thailand and from the limited stuff I saw in Manila, the PI is better than most places but to me falls short of the LoS. The girls are certainly good looking but I like the wider variety of establishments and systems in Thailand. I’m not trying to restart a Thailand vs. Philippines debate, both are good and better than almost anywhere else. In Bangkok or Pattaya there are just so many options and different types of places and I like that. But it's also that I don't know Manila very well yet.
I’m hoping maybe next time to check out the re-opened Manila Bay Café and maybe even swing down to Angeles for a couple of nights.
Tally Wacker
09-04-10, 21:19
Hey Gangles,
That place sounds familiar. When I was staying at the Palm Plaza there in Malate right arround the corner and down 1/2 a block was a Japanese bar like you explained. I went in there with a filipina friend as she told me she wanted to try a threesome.
I cant remember the name of the place but it is setup for Japanese men. There were about 12 nice young girls working that were instructed to stand and greet outloud each customer that entered and did the same when you exited. There was an entrance fee that came with 2 drinks of your choice and some snacks from the small buffet table.
The place had way too many rules for me. I could not even light my own cigarette or pour my own drink or the girls would get fined if the management saw it.
There is also a kareoke stage where some Japanese guys would go up and sing with their filipina of choice.
Im not even sure they allow you barfine the gils from there.
Has anyone been to this bar.
Kyu Son Maru or 930.
It is a japanese bar in Malate. The lovely miss C tells me she works there as a waitress.
She says it is not exclusively Japanese, other foreigners go there.
The management only hire girls who are slim, pretty, with a decent rack. No flat chested.
I am interested in any Field Report which you can provide.
G
WestCoast1
09-04-10, 21:41
i was thinking of heading back to edsa when i ran into 2 street girls who offered themselves for 1000 each. streetwalkers in pi always an interesting mix. never know what you are getting until they get in the room. maybe good service, maybe weak service. or, maybe you get the old, "im ****, give me p3000 or i talk to the police" ripoff. however, the price is good. p1000-1200 gets a few hours, 1500-2000 gets you all night.
what’s the deal with the non-dancing, non-good looking hostesses anyway? i can sort of understand the massage girls if you want a massage while talking to a pretty girl (with no intention of doing the massage girl), but the hostesses are another story. why would i want to sit and talk and potentially bar fine an old, overweight, unattractive hostess when the bar is filled with young, sexy bikini-clad hotties? the problem is, the hostesses are so aggressive and force themselves on you so you have to be almost rude to get them to go. i suppose choosing a dancer would make them go away but i like to sit a while and check them all out and choose carefully. the dancers sometimes don't like waitresses or mamas. the waitress has first crack at the customer, and can coyly play him to see if he will buy her ladies drinks, etc., and there is little the dancers can do but watch.
i’m hoping maybe next time to check out the re-opened manila bay café and maybe even swing down to angeles for a couple of nights.ya, there is something to be said of the freelancers in m bay, g-point, etc. similar to burgos street girls, 1500 will still get you lt and two pops. can't beat the price.
you are correct, you still need to try ac. barfines are still at 1400 pesos, with hundreds if not thousands of girls to choose from. no tip is required.
...I’ve done most of my playing in Thailand and from the limited stuff I saw in Manila, the PI is better than most places but to me falls short of the LoS. The girls are certainly good looking but I like the wider variety of establishments and systems in Thailand...
Well... there's no place on earth quite like the LoS. The downside to that is IMHO, that a lot of the girls have now gotten quite commercial and mercenary. The 1 thing in my opinion that the Thais have taken to a whole new level is the air-mattress-soapy-all-inclusive massage, or Arb-op-nuat - like at Poseidon, Chao Phraya, Emanuelle, etc. That you cant find anywhere else in the world. Well, maybe in Japan but at a few times the price in Thailand. I would make trips to BKK just for a session or three with a side-liner (or two). ;)
I reckon BKK peaked (for playing with girls) in the 90s. Then came the random road blocks at 3 am, random drug testing at clubs, and now civil unrest and political instability - BKK to me now just aint what it used to be. Then, the hottest new playground shifted to the KTVs of Southern China, in the satellite towns near Guangzhou Chang Ping/Chang An/Dongguan. But even that now has gotten expensive. The 2-5-8 system will soon be a thing of the past. 2-5-8 = RMB200 to sit, RMB500 LT, RMB800 L/T.
The dancers sometimes don't like waitresses or mamas. The waitress has first crack at the customer, and can coyly play him to see if he will buy her ladies drinks, etc., and there is little the dancers can do but watch.
Good info. In the first 2 Burgos bars I went into (not much data I know) the hostesses were really aggressive and wouldn't go away or take a hint.
But the other thing was the dancers were really passive, almost uninterested. I know all I had to do was approach one or motion one over, but I was hoping I'd get one to at least walk by and some indication from one that was interested.
The first few dancers did do that but like I said I wanted to sit back and check out the whole lineup, so maybe after they saw me turn down the first couple they figured I wasn't interested in any of them. The hostesses did keep coming up and asking me which I wanted to choose.
I learned my lesson by bar #3 and that's when I was more agressive and chose a couple that I wanted. It was just different from what I was used to or maybe just a odd night for me, I don't know.
The other thing was after I had my girls, the waitresses and hostesses (mamasans?) pestered me a few times for drinks.
Overall I found the girls to be pretty good about not sucking down their drinks really fast. The great girl I met in Cotton Club only had 2 drinks in the 2 hours I sat with her and I had to almost push her to order the 2nd one after she refused a few times.
In any case, I found EDSA to be a lot better but for sure I'll try Burgos again.
WestCoast1
09-05-10, 01:07
I learned my lesson by bar #3 and that's when I was more agressive and chose a couple that I wanted. It was just different from what I was used to or maybe just a odd night for me, I don't know.Pablo, what is it you are used to? In some bars the girls are agressive, in some bars it seems every woman in the place will ignore you (and you are the only customer there).
A different approach is to sit with the pushy waitress or mama first, and buy her a drink. For a ladies drink, she'll give you 20 minutes of her time and tell you anything you want to know (actually she will do that without a LD, its her job). Tell her what kind of girl you are looking for (or what kind of naughty), then ask her to suggest a girl who might be interested in you. If she suggests herself as a candidate, and she's not your knockout-type, tell her you are only interested in the dancers. Don't let her call over a girl right away, ask her to point out two or three girls that might be interested in your junk. As she points to each, stop her and say, "Tell me about that one. " That way you know the age and how long they have been working in the bar, and can then decide which (if any) that the mama pointed out, to call to the table. Once the new girl walks over to your table, look at the mama/waitress and say, "Thanks for your help hun. Let me talk to Jenalyn now. " Pretty strong hint for her to leave. If you don't like Jen, call girl #2 that mama talked about.
In any case, I found EDSA to be a lot better but for sure I'll try Burgos again.
In the 3 times that I have visited Manila I have always had the same plan.
1. Stay near Makati, to check out Havana frequently.
2. Next stop MBC (previously LAC)
3. EDSA last stop.
1. I have never yet seen a FL (not many of them) nice enough at Havana to consider. This is of course only a sample over 5 days worth of stay. Also occasionally some at neighbouring Seattle Coffee, but nothing worth mentioning.
2. There are OK girls at LAC. The stunners (only seen 2 ever) got snapped up pretty quickly. Also there are issues of performance from an FL that could be a hit or miss. When I am in Manila for only a short stay, I want quality and reliability. I will trade a little reliability for extra quality (but I have just no found it at LAC yet).
3. EDSA. I have always ended up getting my take out from here. A couple of times I would have come here, then gone to LAC to compare only to end up back here for the take out. Quality and performance has always been good in the 4 pickups I have had.
Makati seems to be the only area that does not resemble a post apocalyptic hole in Manila, so it seems like a nice place to stay. Since I'm there, I check out Havana first, but never end up picking up anything. LAC and Amazonia is next but I have never seen anything really good in the 4 visits. EDSA is my favourite. I first walk into all the bars to have a look before deciding which bar I will go to. 2 or 3 of the bars usually has someone nice I would like to take back and its usually a tough choice. 2 from Cotton Club, 1 from Bullets and Arrows and 1 from the one immediately to the left of the entrance (can't remember the name).
streetwalkers in pi always an interesting mix. never know what you are getting until they get in the room. maybe good service, maybe weak service. or, maybe you get the old, "im ****, give me p3000 or i talk to the police" ripoff. however, the price is good. p1000-1200 gets a few hours, 1500-2000 gets you all night. ... you still need to try ac. barfines are still at 1400 pesos, with hundreds if not thousands of girls to choose from. no tip is required.westy you're right its a box of chocolates ;) best i've had apart from the freebies was two young stunners all night php 500 (combined). once you get used to the ac scene it comes as a shock to be asked for a tip next morning by the burgos *****s equivalent to the bf from the previous night!
av
Key Master
09-05-10, 08:15
I’ve done most of my playing in Thailand and from the limited stuff I saw in Manila, the PI is better than most places but to me falls short of the LoS. The girls are certainly good looking but I like the wider variety of establishments and systems in Thailand. I’m not trying to restart a Thailand vs. Philippines debate, both are good and better than almost anywhere else. In Bangkok or Pattaya there are just so many options and different types of places and I like that. But it's also that I don't know Manila very well yet.
I think you summed it up pretty well. Philippines is little more limited in scope than say Thailand for mongering. It's not set up as well in many facets. But I find more keepers and sweeties in the PI than I do in LOS. My dollar doesn't go very far in LOS right now, so it's almost a no brainer to go to Philippines instead.
Good info. In the first 2 Burgos bars I went into (not much data I know) the hostesses were really aggressive and wouldn't go away or take a hint.
But the other thing was the dancers were really passive, almost uninterested. I know all I had to do was approach one or motion one over, but I was hoping I'd get one to at least walk by and some indication from one that was interested.
The first few dancers did do that but like I said I wanted to sit back and check out the whole lineup, so maybe after they saw me turn down the first couple they figured I wasn't interested in any of them. The hostesses did keep coming up and asking me which I wanted to choose.
I learned my lesson by bar #3 and that's when I was more agressive and chose a couple that I wanted. It was just different from what I was used to or maybe just a odd night for me, I don't know.
The other thing was after I had my girls, the waitresses and hostesses (mamasans?) pestered me a few times for drinks.
Overall I found the girls to be pretty good about not sucking down their drinks really fast. The great girl I met in Cotton Club only had 2 drinks in the 2 hours I sat with her and I had to almost push her to order the 2nd one after she refused a few times.
In any case, I found EDSA to be a lot better but for sure I'll try Burgos again.
Two fav's of mine on burgos -
Hollywood, the mammasans & girls hang around chatting but are not pushy.
Friday's - Walk in sit down, honey's descend on your cock from all directions. Had many wild times there in the bar & back in my room. Just walk in with the attitude that they kmow why you are there & so do you...
AV
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/100905/world/philippines_crime_murder_internet
Hate to keep harping on the same thing, but. Be careful with these girls you meet online. I can gurantee that it would be rare for an attrative young lady here to not have a Filipino bf or other love interest.
I had a close call with my wife's family threatening my life and I think I can speak from experience.
MOst of these half wits 99.9% of family members or others, just want are money. Dont be so fooled into complacency by the smiling faces etc.
Reminds me of a girl I know that has an American guy sending money to her and her family in Angeles. Around 30,000 peso per month (which is rediculous in itself).
SHe was going to Systems Plus College until her live in Filipino bf, knocked her up. No fear though as she is sure that the American will never know that she is having a baby.
These uneducated province girls just do not think like we do. ITs all about pesos and the family.
Please use your brains and listen to that little voice in the back of your head.
Hate reading stories like the link above.
OldAsiaHand
09-06-10, 13:31
I would like to extend a public thank you to Wicked Roger who generously shared with me during my recent stay in Manila and time of need (broken foot).
He hooked me up with one of his regulars who came by my hotel to take care of me everyday and arranged another treat every night to comfort me in other ways.
Hat's off to Roger!
OAH
Loveasia77
09-06-10, 15:52
This was my very first trip to Philippines. The information I found on this forum was very useful, thanks everyone.
Arrived at Ninoy Aquino international airport. I was surprised by tight security at the airport, but didn't mind. Went to ask where I can find shuttle bus going to my hotel, they asked me to wait couple of minutes. Then a guy appeared, took my luggage and walked toward silver 4-door Toyota, and put my luggage in the trunk. I asked if this is the shuttle, he replied - yes, it is. Hmm … how much, I asked. 500 peso – the guy replied. This was my first time in Manila, but I knew my hotel was only couple of km away from the airport. 500 peso sounded high. The car did not look like a hotel shuttle, so I asked the guy to take my luggage out from the trunk and give it back to me. He did, and now he changed the story that the ride will be free, etc. Right. I headed towards what looked like a legit taxi stand.
Taxi driver took me “sightseeing”, it took about 45 minutes to drive 4 km. During the trip, he offered to take me to Batangas City where I can take a ferry to Puerto Galera, where I was heading couple of days later. He mentioned that he has a “neighbor”, 19 yo girl who is looking for a boyfriend, and who would be very glad to meet me. Took down his phone number, but had no intention to call him. Ride was around 200 php, he did have a meter.
Friend of mine recommended Greenbelt shopping mall as a place to start, so that's where I headed first after settling in the hotel. It seemed like a good place to meet freebies, I chatted with a couple of girls in the mall. I checked out Havana and Starbucks, many locals but I spotted couple of pros too but did not make contact. Best time to be seems to be in the evening, starting 6-7 PM, after offices close. Girls often hang out after work and some of them are approachable. Unfortunately, there is a lot of ladyboys in the area. I spotted what I thought was two cuties, walked by and smiled, they both immediately got up, one of them said “I want you inside of me”, and they both followed me. What happened to foreplay? Security guard appeared out of nowhere seconds later, so they backed off. I must say I was turned off by this, and decided to head to Amazonia.
Took a taxi from New Makati to Manila, it's about half an hour ride between Greenbelt and Amazonia. Asked the driver to take me to City State Tower hotel, which according to information I found on this forum, is just around the corner from Amazonia. I found Amazonia very easily, it is about two minutes walk from the hotel. Walked in and immediately liked it. Lot of girls, couple of stunners, making eye contact, etc. Sat down, ordered a beer. I was immediately approached by a girl, started a conversation but she was all business and the vibe was not good. I politely thanked her and said that I want to look around little more. She did not like that at all, oh well. Two other girls approached me, one of them very chatty, the other one quiet but really hot. I started talking to the chatty one, I told her it was my first time here, so she explained how things work: hotel upstairs, pricing, etc. What I found unusual was that while I was talking to her, other girls would approach me and ask if I want their company. She didn't mind and explained that this is how it works here. This would never happen in Hong Kong, I found it strange, but nobody seemed to mind. Spent about half an hour talking to her, ordered another drink. I was not yet ready to head upstairs, but wanted to “compensate” her for the time she spent with me. Left her ~800 peso which was the change I got after I bought the beer. I know – I didn't have to do it, etc. But I felt compelled to leave some money. I walked around in the neighborhood before and saw people living on the streets with kids, etc. I'm sure she wouldn't be there if she didn't have to.
I think it was 10 PM when band started playing. Not as good as I expected, we have a lot of of decent Philippino bands in Wan Chai in Hong Kong. Took my beer and walked around. Met Cindy, early 30-s, curly hair, really fun to talk to, we hit it off immediately. It didn't take her long to convince me to head upstairs. Which we did. Paid 400 peso (if I remember correctly) for the hotel, which from what I understand, is all night long deal.
BBBJ in the shower, and off to bed, turns out she was quite an acrobat, splits being one the tricks she was willing to perform. OK performance, somewhat routine, but she was fun to chat with. Told me about her Japanese ex-boyfriend and tattoos she wanted to get. She did mention that she is working to pay off the house she bought couple of years ago. Her son is 2 years old and stays with her parents while she is making money in Manila. Paid her 1000 peso and left two hours later, I was tired and wanted to rest before my trip to Puerto Galera.
Manila was just a short stop on my way to Puerto Galera, which I will describe in the next post. I wish I had more time to check out the other places mentioned on the board. Next time.
Cheers.
WestCoast1
09-06-10, 19:20
Arrived at Ninoy Aquino international airport. I was surprised by tight security at the airport, but didn't mind. Went to ask where I can find shuttle bus going to my hotel, they asked me to wait couple of minutes. Then a guy appeared, took my luggage and walked toward silver 4-door Toyota, and put my luggage in the trunk. I asked if this is the shuttle, he replied - yes, it is. Hmm … how much, I asked. 500 peso – the guy replied.
Ride was around 200 php, he did have a meter.Good eye and good catch. They old 'switch-a-roo'. If he used a meter and it was 200 pesos, thats a 45-60 minute ride. If your ride was 8am-8pm local time, it could easily be 45 minuts to your hotel from the airport (manila traffic is dense). My last ride from airport to Lotus Garden in Malate was 40 minutes, longer than usual, and no joyride, just right straight up Roxas Blvd, and a minivan. I overpaid on purpose (p350), as I did not want to stand in the super-long taxi line at noon. Normally this ride can be had for p120, but I didn't care about the extra at the time. Sometimes there are no customers in the taxi line, and 20 waiting taxis. On this day there were almost 200 people in the customer line, and a fresh taxi was rolling in about once a minute. I waited in line about 5 minutes before realizing it might be an hour or two until I got a taxi. So I went back to the over-priced-up-front taxis and got a van.
I spotted what I thought was two cuties, walked by and smiled, they both immediately got up, one of them said “I want you inside of me”, and they both followed me. What happened to foreplay? Security guard appeared out of nowhere seconds later, so they backed off. I must say I was turned off by this, and decided to head to Amazonia.
It can be daunting the first time you get accosted like that. And it might not happen again for a long time. I got hit in Cebu recently by several pairs of young ladies that were very up-front. I, on the other hand, can live with being molested. Where in Greenbelt were you? PM me the GPS coordinates if you can... :)
Took a taxi from New Makati to Manila, it's about half an hour ride between Greenbelt and Amazonia. Asked the driver to take me to City State Tower hotel, which according to information I found on this forum, is just around the corner from Amazonia. I found Amazonia very easily, it is about two minutes walk from the hotel. Walked in and immediately liked it. Lot of girls, couple of stunners, making eye contact, etc. Sat down, ordered a beer. I walked around in the neighborhood before and saw people living on the streets with kids, etc.
You were one block from the new Manila Bay (formerly LA Cafe). And G-Point bar is also close to City-State (2 blocks I think).
What I found unusual was that while I was talking to her, other girls would approach me and ask if I want their company. She didn't mind and explained that this is how it works here. This would never happen in Hong Kong, I found it strange, but nobody seemed to mind. Cheers.
This was my experience as well. You will find the girls will exchange money between themselves as some kind of settlement, certainly, this never has occured anywhere else i have been. Unique! this way the girls help each other out, such sweeties. How does it feel being traded? lol.
I would like to extend a public thank you to Wicked Roger who generously shared with me during my recent stay in Manila and time of need (broken foot).
He hooked me up with one of his regulars who came by my hotel to take care of me everyday and arranged another treat every night to comfort me in other ways.
Hat's off to Roger!
OAH
OAH, were you in EDSA Complex last Sunday night? I was in there and I saw a guy with a broken foot on crutches?
WR is a stand up guy and he shares well. We haven't got a chance to meet up yet, but we will.
Robb
Robb
Econo Tech
09-07-10, 04:12
SHe was going to Systems Plus College until her live in Filipino bf, knocked her up. No fear though as she is sure that the American will never know that she is having a baby.And for anybody who thinks that the woman can get knocked by her BF and not be found out - fret not: RP law allows the children of single mothers to be registered under their grandparents' name .. :D Go figure ..
Again, I wouldn't think it is about the thieving mind: it is more to do with "YOU HAVE MORE THAN ME, SO IT IS OK FOR ME TO TAKE SOME FROM YOU .. " as exhibited by the shows and what nots which are nothing but an excuse for people to give out money ..
Starchild2012
09-07-10, 12:47
This was my very first trip to Philippines. The information I found on this forum was very useful, thanks everyone.
Arrived at Ninoy Aquino international airport. I was surprised by tight security at the airport, but didn't mind. Went to ask where I can find shuttle bus going to my hotel, they asked me to wait couple of minutes. Then a guy appeared, took my luggage and walked toward silver 4-door Toyota, and put my luggage in the trunk. I asked if this is the shuttle, he replied - yes, it is. Hmm … how much, I asked. 500 peso – the guy replied. This was my first time in Manila, but I knew my hotel was only couple of km away from the airport. 500 peso sounded high. The car did not look like a hotel shuttle, so I asked the guy to take my luggage out from the trunk and give it back to me. He did, and now he changed the story that the ride will be free, etc. Right. I headed towards what looked like a legit taxi stand.
Great Report...99% of taxi drivers in Manila will try to rip you off...Never take shuttle taxi or prepaid taxi form the Airport...the pre-paid taxi cost 500 pesos no matter where you go....regular taxi will cost you less than 200 pesos....I have found if you are Makati....from there any place you go be it may malate for la cafe or burgus or edsa...it will always cost around 150 pesos or so...never ever 200 pesos on any of my ride.accept if im going out of manila.
Even local's don't trust taxi drivers in Manila...always ask, if the meter is on and also pay them exact change else everything is considered as a tip.
EDSA is also a good place to hangout....good luck with your trip to to Puerto Galera
......99% of taxi drivers in Manila will try to rip you off..........
Even local's don't trust taxi drivers in Manila...always ask, if the meter is on and also pay them exact change else everything is considered as a tip.
I wonder where you got your figure of 99% Starchild? Your figure is just NOT TRUE, unless they all try to rip YOU off. In that case, it might be something about you.
I actually live in Manila and I have not had ONE HASSLE with a taxi driver for at least the past 2 - 3 years. I used 3 taxis today and EVERY ONE of them turned on his meter without any quibble.
I cannot remember when I had my last argument with a taxi driver. They know that locals have been urged to report them if they do not follow the expected protocol. I am 6ft tall and obviously a foreigner but I just do not have these hassles.
I suspect that the common denominator in the negative posts about taxis is that most guys are catching taxis in and around the Malate/Ermita streets and tourist hotels, and I bet guys are dressed to look like a tourist too. Only the scammer drivers trawl around the Malate streets in their clapped out units.
My tips.
If in Malate, always go to Robinsons Dept Store and get a cab off the rank there.
If in Makati, go to any taxi rank and stand in the line and get a cab. They are obliged to take you and use the meter. The ranks are controlled by security.
Scammer drivers will not line up on those ranks. Crappy banged up cabs also will not go there. Sometimes you will not need to wait any more than a few minutes as there is high volume of cabs (except for Friday nights, or when it is raining - then you will have hassles everywhere).
I just don't understand why some guys have so much grief with taxi drivers. I simply do not share your problems.
I wonder where you got your figure of 99% Starchild? Your figure is just NOT TRUE, unless they all try to rip YOU off. In that case, it might be something about you.
I actually live in Manila and I have not had ONE HASSLE with a taxi driver for at least the past 2 - 3 years. I used 3 taxis today and EVERY ONE of them turned on his meter without any quibble.
I cannot remember when I had my last argument with a taxi driver. They know that locals have been urged to report them if they do not follow the expected protocol. I am 6ft tall and obviously a foreigner but I just do not have these hassles.
I suspect that the common denominator in the negative posts about taxis is that most guys are catching taxis in and around the Malate/Ermita streets and tourist hotels, and I bet guys are dressed to look like a tourist too. Only the scammer drivers trawl around the Malate streets in their clapped out units.
My tips.
If in Malate, always go to Robinsons Dept Store and get a cab off the rank there.
If in Makati, go to any taxi rank and stand in the line and get a cab. They are obliged to take you and use the meter. The ranks are controlled by security.
Scammer drivers will not line up on those ranks. Crappy banged up cabs also will not go there. Sometimes you will not need to wait any more than a few minutes as there is high volume of cabs (except for Friday nights, or when it is raining - then you will have hassles everywhere).
I just don't understand why some guys have so much grief with taxi drivers. I simply do not share your problems.
Red, I live in manila most of the year also. In my ealry years meters were uncommon. The correct method was to stick your head in the taxi, quote your destination & wait for a figure to be given. If your knew how much it should be usually they would quckly agree your price or drive off in a huff.
These days meters are becoming more common, I kinda miss the old way & still out of habit always ask the fair for a destination before getting in. Haggling is part of life in Asia..
I rarely have any hassle with taxi's considering I use them A LOT.
Guys that turn up here all anal & ready to have screaming fights over $2 are hard for me to understand...
AV
I wonder where you got your figure of 99% Starchild? Your figure is just NOT TRUE, unless they all try to rip YOU off. In that case, it might be something about you.
I actually live in Manila and I have not had ONE HASSLE with a taxi driver for at least the past 2 - 3 years. I used 3 taxis today and EVERY ONE of them turned on his meter without any quibble.
I cannot remember when I had my last argument with a taxi driver. They know that locals have been urged to report them if they do not follow the expected protocol. I am 6ft tall and obviously a foreigner but I just do not have these hassles.
I suspect that the common denominator in the negative posts about taxis is that most guys are catching taxis in and around the Malate/Ermita streets and tourist hotels, and I bet guys are dressed to look like a tourist too. Only the scammer drivers trawl around the Malate streets in their clapped out units.
My tips.
If in Malate, always go to Robinsons Dept Store and get a cab off the rank there.
If in Makati, go to any taxi rank and stand in the line and get a cab. They are obliged to take you and use the meter. The ranks are controlled by security.
Scammer drivers will not line up on those ranks. Crappy banged up cabs also will not go there. Sometimes you will not need to wait any more than a few minutes as there is high volume of cabs (except for Friday nights, or when it is raining - then you will have hassles everywhere).
I just don't understand why some guys have so much grief with taxi drivers. I simply do not share your problems.
I took a taxi from my Hotel in Ermita to the airport on Sunday. I was late so he went out of his way to use a quicker route to get me to the airport. Total cost was 115P, very friendly cabbie in a hooptie, was too chatty but he certainly did not try to rip me off.
Wicked Roger
09-07-10, 17:04
Red, I live in manila most of the year also. In my ealry years meters were uncommon. The correct method was to stick your head in the taxi, quote your destination & wait for a figure to be given. If your knew how much it should be usually they would quckly agree your price or drive off in a huff.
These days meters are becoming more common, I kinda miss the old way & still out of habit always ask the fair for a destination before getting in. Haggling is part of life in Asia..
I rarely have any hassle with taxi's considering I use them A LOT.
Guys that turn up here all anal & ready to have screaming fights over $2 are hard for me to understand...
AV
AV and RK
I agree, never an issue and what is $2-4 for a fare guys, is cheap...dont be a cheap charlie and pay a decent tip if the guy does a good job and is nice.
Last taxi I took to NAIA from New World was great, less than 200 pesos, so I gave him 300, so what - it is nothing when you compare taxi fares back home in the west
I remember taxis and taxi meters in 1990 when I first visited Manila. My Filipina girlfriend at that time, an accountant who now lives in USA, had a very emotional and charged exchange with a taxi driver who apparently had a "broken" meter. I guess its not only "guys" who get "anal".
Red, I live in manila most of the year also. In my ealry years meters were uncommon. The correct method was to stick your head in the taxi, quote your destination & wait for a figure to be given. If your knew how much it should be usually they would quckly agree your price or drive off in a huff.
These days meters are becoming more common, I kinda miss the old way & still out of habit always ask the fair for a destination before getting in. Haggling is part of life in Asia..
I rarely have any hassle with taxi's considering I use them A LOT.
Guys that turn up here all anal & ready to have screaming fights over $2 are hard for me to understand.
AV
Mr Enternational
09-08-10, 00:52
I bet guys are dressed to look like a tourist too.I will be in Manila for the first time in two weeks. How does one dress in PI in order to not appear like a tourist?
WestCoast1
09-08-10, 03:08
I will be in Manila for the first time in two weeks. How does one dress in PI in order to not appear like a tourist?Wanna look like a tourist: swim trunks, flip-flops, hawaiin shirt. Less like a tourist: blue jeans, sandals, t-shirt. Even less like a tourist: slacks, nice shoes, polo or button-down shirt. Least like a tourist: suit/tie.
Absolutely a tourist: Blond/blue caucasian dressed in anything.
Econo Tech
09-08-10, 03:59
I will be in Manila for the first time in two weeks. How does one dress in PI in order to not appear like a tourist?Is it your first time?
Well, I can tell you how not to dress: don't dress up with T-Shirts that says "Hard Rock Cafe Paris" and such. As it gives an opening line for the scammers to start a conversation. Like "Hey mate, I met you in Paris, remember? "
As for the rest, while some suggest dressing like a slob (I. E. half buttoned shirts, shorts riding down to the crack of the ass. Etc. Etc.) I would suggest dress smart casual.
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