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Jambo,
I'll assume you mean regular "working women" who don't include "exchange of bodily fluids" as part of their resume.
Some of the regularly employed gals get offended if you just hand over money, but they are quite happy to be wined and dined. One that I really liked got an all expense trip MNL to Cebu and Alona beach. But even then she pulled out her wallet a few times. In fact, she paid for the flight ticket up front and I reimbursed her upon arrival. She was the receptionist at my hotel when I met her.
Now, she is married to some old fart (well, a little older than me anyway) so I suspect she was looking for more than a "shag".
All that being said, these days I lean toward AC and it unique delights and price tags. Eventually I'll get bored and cycle back down to the south after renewing my Cherry blossom subscription. X.
Well done young man! Good reporting, keep it up!
Its a shame about the financial nagging. As others have suggested, it seems many of the DIA girls have moved more towards the semi-pro end of the field.
Preferable for me is a girl who is like "maybe he will be my LT boyfriend and marry me, so I will be on my best behavior". Ah well, I guess word gets around that we are just 'players' haha.
And actually as guys like X-Man will attest, there are working girls around who would like a shag and don't need the money.
GoodEnough
04-16-11, 12:28
Not everyone goes home for that weekend, but a lot do. It's almost as important as Christmas. There will be some availability of course if you aren't picky. The other thing to be aware is that a lot of businesses close for a few days so you may be limited to eating in the hotel at first. The malls may open on Saturday or Sunday, I can't remember exactly. It will be quiet that's for sure.Most of the stores and malls will be closed on Good Friday but will be open again for Easter, or at least that's the way I remember it the last few years in Davao.
GE
To hedge your bets, you might get online and find some tour guides or dates or whatever. DIA and Tagged and of course FB are free. Each have different search systems, results, quality of women / software functionality. I think I would go to EDSA bars, but the expats and the regulars at ISG know the situation and are very likely to make a weekend booking for EDSA, Burgos, AC gals that are most promising.
But on the positive side, PI anticipation has a similar effect as beer goggles. The girl you bonk on the first night is often far too fugly on the last night. And sad, but true reality is that a lot of gals do not have homes to go to.
I actually read a serious psychological essay describing a similar effect with uni professors. If you spend all day with 18-25 yr old students, coming home to the old trout becomes less palatable. X.
My vacation to the Philippines had to pushed back a week and I totally forgot it was easter weekend. I arrive on Friday, guess I can expect to spend the night alone then. So you think there will be action on Saturday and easter Sunday?
Most of the stores and malls will be closed on Good Friday but will be open again for Easter, or at least that's the way I remember it the last few years in Davao.
GELooks like MBC will be open. And I won't be too picky.
http://www.ermita.com/
"WE'RE OPEN 24 HOURS DURING THE HOLY WEEK"
Soapy Smith
04-16-11, 22:24
Looks like MBC will be open. And I won't be too picky.
http://www.ermita.com/
"WE'RE OPEN 24 HOURS DURING THE HOLY WEEK"Open, yes, but this may be one of a few times during the year when mongers outnumber girls. Not being too picky is the right mindset. If you see one taken out that looks good to you, just wait or come back in a couple hours and she's likely to be back. Fortunately, most of them are extremely hygiene conscious, and they take advantage of hot showers before and after the deed, in part because most are lucky to have even cold showers at home. Later in the night when monger traffic slows done there are some eager to take LTs, since, as somebody pointed out, many do not have homes at all. A lot of them, especially from outlying provinces, crash at the humble homes of other freelancers who live in the metro area. So they're always in danger of wearing out their welcome. Your offer of an LT gives them the best bed they've slept in recently and air conditioning, which none of them have at home. In general it's better not to think too much about who's been there before you.
Globe Spinner
04-16-11, 23:43
My GF was getting her hair done and I hadn't been in the place in a couple of years so I thought I would try a matinee. They took me to a pretty good line up. I was concerned because no eye contact until the guy told me it was one way glass. He recommended #120. Good recommendation it turned out to be. Nice 22 yo with C cups and tight body and no baby bulge. Once she got in the room I let her talk me into taking her friend too. As my time available was short, it seemed like a prudent thing to do. So, the three of us jumped in the shower where I got nicely scrubbed with some BJ thrown in. To the bed and the friend (forgot her number) started an excellent BBBJ while I ate 120's pussy. 120 actually came, so I had them swap places. Another excellent BBBJ by 120, but her friend had trouble getting wet. On with the raincoat and I did 120 in mish while the friend licked my ass and balls. Very nice. Change of condom and did the friend in mish. Last condom and finished 120 doggy with the friend working me from behind. Another shower, then out the door. It was an excellent 90 minute matinee.
Irony Monger
04-17-11, 17:37
Open, yes, but this may be one of a few times during the year when mongers outnumber girls.Will the same be true on Burgos and at the EDSA complex?
Does the action pick back up in the first week of May, or would it be better to wait until the second week of May?
Does the action pick back up in the first week of May, or would it be better to wait until the second week of May?I've never had a problem in Manila during Holy Week. If indeed you're concerned about numbers, those that visit the provinces will be coming back ASAP. They don't want to be out in the provinces any more than I do.
What bars would you all recommend in the Ermita area but where the girls wear small bikinis on stage so one can check out their figures first? The L. A. Cafe place has the drawback of maybe not knowing what you're getting in advance when they wear street clothes.
DriveAllNight
04-18-11, 02:44
I've never had a problem in Manila during Holy Week. If indeed you're concerned about numbers, those that visit the provinces will be coming back ASAP. They don't want to be out in the provinces any more than I do.I was in Manila during Holy Week last year. All was normal at EDSA both Friday and Saturday nights, but I can't speak in regard to Easter Sunday.
Pinaypounder
04-18-11, 03:34
the following story is all one needs to know about the phils and phil women, they rock and we are the rockstars.
i spent alot of time inthe phils and worked dia and two dating websites to occupy the 3 hours i neither slept or worked while i was there. i did invest hundreds of upfront hours but many of these hours involved excellent webcam sex.
i usually had two dates a night and plan well they are always late, damn late. more then 30 minutes and i blow them off, they actually can not beleive that i would do this, but then the next time they are on time.
the best night i had is as follows.
i was in cafe havana with an actual lady friend, a lady i don't screw i would as she is bi but she is to heavy. she is very western in her mannerisms and therefore great company.
this night we just drink and chat and for hours a table of 4 young attractive women are visually and aggresively flirting with me, i was 45 at the time and 30 lbs overwieght although i have a decent shape and work out regular. i am considered gwapo.
at the end of the night two of them give me their numbers after they came to our table and started chattting me up.
i got thier numbers (a cell phone is the second thing you should get when you arrive, cheap and buy minutes) a nice cellphone will be stolen quickly so buy cheap.
they left and the texting began. we agreed to meet friday night but i already had two dates booked they were to be the 3rd and the second date went well. so we agreed to meet saturday night.
the 3 of us did, they were 24 and 33, 1 was a single mom from palawan and the other a young single babe from a small island near mindinao.
we hit it off and shared several jugs of mojitos, we danced and played like you can't imagine. as we drank more the women became very competitive each playing more and by this i mean 2nd and 3rd base on the dance floor, french kissing both together on the dnace floor. it was unique.
one decided we needed to leave to a disco, i complied and you could not wipe the shit eating grin off my face with a hockey stick i assure you. we leave in a cab, wow. at one point one was impaled on my erection and the other was french kissing me the cab was to small to get her panties off of i would have started fucking her right there i love skirts!
i think the cabbie was mad, i did not care and i was a little hammered and fucking going with the flow i assure you. we got to the disco, me. 4 other men and 40. 55 hot young women. well it got more and more competitive and there were tears over who i was going to sleep with ad why did i like just one of them, freaking hilariuos.
i have to tell you it was odd, they were actually competing and one was 24 with a body hugh hefner would pay good money to photgraph the other was 33 but sexual and her and i had real chemistry, the young one did the crying the older one just smiled and made me hard. the young one at one point felt she was losing so dragged other even hotter women over to kiss and fondle me, at 1 point 4 of us were kissing on the dance floor, she made me tip the other, lol.
so i sheepishly had to confess,"ladies, i won't sleep with either of you, i like you both, lets just go to my place and we will sleep and all be friends in the am"
they agreed so to my room we go, i love the guys at my hotels and their smiles were huge as we poured out of the cab. up to my room, all a little pissed.
i go to the bathroom to freshen up leaving the two alone, fresh shave (there was alot of pussy to eat) , brush my teeth and water, lots of water, this is my #1 recommendation for a good erection, of course being rested helps, i had been up for 24 hours at this point.
as i brush the young one comes in, drops her pants and proceeds to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) 3 feet to my left. wow nice shave pussy, amazing body, she used the hose to clean up (why don't we have those here in canada?).
i went down on her right there on the toilet, ummm nice ****, penis stirring good sign.
we started to fuck then i thought hmmm penis not coooperating fully, cialus in the dresser, condoms too, so i go into the room and lo and behold the 33 year old is sleeping perfect, first the young one then the older one. i am a thinker you see.
youn one and i play in the bathroom for an hour, cock was not that cooperative, (lesson #2 don't drink dumbass) so we suck and sort of fuck until tired and head into the bedroom.
damn older one is gone, oh well i was eshausted. sleep with the amazing looking one and in the morning show her how well my cock works. sadly sober she was terrible can anyon say starfish, this reminded me again why i prefer 30 + women and i missed the older one. young one leaves with 100 pesos for cab and i immediately start texting the 33 year old thank god is was sunday.
arranged a date but then she backs out after texting all day and confesses she is meeting her white bf the next day and flying to palawan with him. to bad i liked her.
fricking hilariuos. phil women are easy and wet, they love to be well fucked. 80% of the 120 i have fucked have bf or husbands, white and pinoy most lie about it, some don't. some have not had sex for years and the blood in the bed is proof of that, i have had to pay for 4 sets of sheets for 30 + year old women.
i never lie, i never mislead, no promise of marriage or anything i am polite and a gentleman and i make them cum and sore. most know i am a butterfly, and seeing they all have bf or husbands they can't exactly complain, only 1 harrased me and she had the biggest vagina i had ever met we still caht nut no repeat there. i have repeated with 75% of the women i have had sex with. and i return in 60 days and will repeat again with many.
be nice and ask and yee shall be rewarded. treat them well and they will treat you well as the pinoy men are fucking assholes.
us little white guys are the black guys of asia and trust me to these girls size matters! i have had frank discussion with many on this topic.
be nice guys and many will fuck you just because they like us like to cum! most are not stupid or as nieve as we might think. just horny and they know they got what we want. yes it cost me some drinks food and cabs, but lord knows i paid alot more here for a hell of alot less.
Econo Tech
04-18-11, 06:11
Will the same be true on Burgos and at the EDSA complex?From my experience, unlike AC, In Manila, atleast half the talent is from Manila or around Manila.
The other half of course will be from the 'province'.
Not sure if there's going to be another navy ship in town.
Thanks everyone for all the info. I'm looking more forward to my arrival on Friday! Hopefully I can find some nice company!
Thanks everyone for all the info. I'm looking more forward to my arrival on Friday! Hopefully I can find some nice company!Of course you will find some nice company! However, I wish you a great time in the Philippines!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
FreebieFan
04-19-11, 08:14
First the bad news. Was chatting with a cute 18 year old thinking its time to go a bit " younger". After a few interesting chats, and photo exchange she's on cam."honey whats that bump in your middle " " Oh I'm 8 months pregnant, and was thinking I might need some money ". Yes you will need extra money but I'm not going to be seen with an 8 month pregnant lady.
More bad news. An ex virgin I know has quit college and started work in a factory. Now when she stayed with me I used to give here P1000 as a" for your taxi ride home " and other dumb stuff like coloured contacts lens jens etc. She was loving that. In her job ow she's making P130 a day and says " I preferred seeing you freebie, you were so generous to me." LOL.
Anyways to the good news.
Manila trip is forthcoming and night one will be with a 23 year old Pasay girl. Never met but I'm 99% sure oif success.
Night two will be a 19 year old college kid who I was with last time.
Night 3 will be a married lady with fabulous legs who lives near my place.
How to fill my days. Well theres a 19 year old virgin who wants to "learn about adult behaviour" in her words.
Theres the massage attendant who is madly in love with me and always sees me.
Theres a chubby gal in Taguig who I can't sleep with, but who has promised me a nice blow in my car for being nice to her.
Theres a Tagged gal who suddenly sends me her pic in bra and panties and says "remember me "
Theres a Taguig girl with an ulcer who wants money for hospital trip.
Theres a Manila girl who insists her and her kid haven't eaten for 3 days. But she's often on internet.
Theres a Bicol girl who will come back to manila for 3 hours if I send her busfare (she's a repeat so sending money is safe)
Theres a policewoman, aged 24 based in Camp Crame who has said if I don't like her, her cousin would also be available. Love the short hair cuts they have.
Theres a few more whos stories I can't recall. I won't be meeting them all due to time limitations but will be seeing some.
Point being theres plenty out there. I love my Manila trips.
Soapy Smith
04-19-11, 11:53
What bars would you all recommend in the Ermita area but where the girls wear small bikinis on stage so one can check out their figures first? The L. A. Cafe place has the drawback of maybe not knowing what you're getting in advance when they wear street clothes.If you want scantily-clad dancers, go to Burgos or to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. I'm aware of a few KTV bars in the Ermita area that have Guest Relations Officers (GROs) , some of whom may be available for takeout. But you will pay a pretty penny for them. And in general they are not in bikinis in the bar. I know of no clubs in the Ermita area that have dancers in bikinis, but maybe my saying so will prompt somebody to provide specifics about one or two exceptions. Happiness is always relative, but I have never been really unhappy about unwrapping anything I took out of the old LA Cafe. Use your eyes and your mind and accept that few of these women are going to have outsized breasts. Some of us actually like them that way. If you want an idea what these women look like undressed, look at the cross-section of women whose naked bodies get posted in the photo forum.
FreebieFan
04-19-11, 15:02
Maybe I'm doing some OT on DIA with my forthcoming trip or maybe I actually forget that I'm not a 21 year old stud but in addition to the earlier list, there now the possibility of a Filipina who works in HK but is in Manila to get visa and may stay an extra day, theres an oldie who was one of my favourite repeats suddenly back on the market and texting me, theres a 40 year old lady who has superb pins who is hot for it but her upbringing won't let her say, and then theres Miss 4ft 10 who came to Taipei twice to see me asking for a repeat.
I have about 86 hours in country and will surely enjoy my trip. If there are no more posts after my trip then you know Freebie did a little too much porking and probably equally overdid the blue green and whatever other color tablets he takes.
Assuming I am in Manila and meet a girl who has a regular job and somehow miracle happens and I end up in bed with here. Now it is in the morning and she is leaving to go back to her home / job and I want to put a monetary gift in her bag. How much will be the fare market price? Would it be the price of a BF at say Burgos plus the LT price? More? Less? I appreciate your answer. I do not want to look like Cheap Charley nor do I want to to look like a stupid gringo.
Thanks in Advance,
APAC Man
as i brush the young one comes in, drops her pants and proceeds to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) 3 feet to my left. wow nice shave pussy, amazing body, she used the hose to clean up (why don't we have those here in canada?).you can buy one at home depot but not the exact same thing. you need to improvise a little bit.
Freelancer rate at Manila Bay Cafe is 1500p (undisputed). The BS / BF (bar stool / bar fine) guys pay up to 3000p and more and think they are Donald Trump. I'm proudly a Cheap Charley. Which I'll take anyday, over stupid forigner.
Up 2u.
Assuming I am in Manila and meet a girl who has a regular job and somehow miracle happens and I end up in bed with here. Now it is in the morning and she is leaving to go back to her home / job and I want to put a monetary gift in her bag. How much will be the fare market price? Would it be the price of a BF at say Burgos plus the LT price? More? Less? I appreciate your answer. I do not want to look like Cheap Charley nor do I want to to look like a stupid gringo.
Thanks in Advance,
APAC Man
Freelancer rate at Manila Bay Cafe is 1500p (undisputed). The BS / BF (bar stool / bar fine) guys pay up to 3000p and more and think they are Donald Trump. I'm proudly a Cheap Charley. Which I'll take anyday, over stupid forigner.
Up 2u. Okay. So if I met a girl, take her out for dinner to a nice place (Not KFC) , and in the morning I give her between 1, 500 to 2, 000 I am within the limit. Right? Going once, going twice, . Any other opinion please?
Thnaks in advance.
APAC Man
Chocha Monger
04-20-11, 00:16
Okay. So if I met a girl, take her out for dinner to a nice place (Not KFC) , and in the morning I give her between 1, 500 to 2, 000 I am within the limit. Right? Going once, going twice, . Any other opinion please?
Thnaks in advance.
APAC ManYou could give her once in the ass, twice in the pussy, and 500 pesos cab fare. That's standard procedure for many guys here.
Okay. So if I met a girl, take her out for dinner to a nice place (Not KFC) , and in the morning I give her between 1, 500 to 2, 000 I am within the limit.If your GF actually has a decent job, you can easily insult her. If she is doing ok with work, I buy her dinner and drinks, and give her say 500P for her "Taxi Fare". If she says its too much, tell her she can give you the change next time.
If she is working as something like a waitress, I would go with the 1000 and don't worry about insulting her!
Soapy Smith
04-20-11, 06:37
You can buy one at Home Depot but not the exact same thing. You need to improvise a little bit.It saves money and makes environmentalists happy because it cuts down on toilet paper and, hence, cutting down trees. Saves money for the same reason, too. And if you ever bring home a Pinay to your North American abode, she'll love you forever for your thoughtfulness in having installed it.
Soapy Smith
04-20-11, 06:49
If your GF actually has a decent job, you can easily insult her. If she is doing ok with work, I buy her dinner and drinks, and give her say 500P for her "Taxi Fare". If she says its too much, tell her she can give you the change next time. If she is working as something like a waitress, I would go with the 1000 and don't worry about insulting her!1000 pesos is only a little more than $20US, so doesn't seem like much, but for a waitress it's probably more than she makes in a week. She might still feel awkward at taking a week's pay for having sex. If she hesitates or tries to refuse it, help her save face by telling her to please use it to buy something nice for her family. Then, when she's no longer with you, she can use it however she sees fit.
You can buy one at Home Depot but not the exact same thing. You need to improvise a little bit.Or you can go the gardening section and buy a watering can! That is what they used to use in the olden age. You, or she, just needs to practice a bit. It is easier to use this than squatting in the bath tub and use the hand held shower head as most these girl do.
APAC Man
Soapy Smith
04-21-11, 05:31
Or you can go the gardening section and buy a watering can! That is what they used to use in the olden age. You, or she, just needs to practice a bit. It is easier to use this than squatting in the bath tub and use the hand held shower head as most these girl do. APAC ManAnd what most poorer families have, that is, what these girls are accustomed to at home, is a big container of water (often a 30 gallon or so plastic garbage can) next to the toilet and a small saucepan with handle (or sometimes just a large tin can) to dip the water and pour down over the nether regions. When the family has a toilet, which is often not connected to water under pressure, the same saucepan or tin can is also used to flush the toilet with water dipped out of the garbage can.
And what most poorer families have, that is, what these girls are accustomed to at home, is a big container of water (often a 30 gallon or so plastic garbage can) next to the toilet and a small saucepan with handle (or sometimes just a large tin can) to dip the water and pour down over the nether regions. When the family has a toilet, which is often not connected to water under pressure, the same saucepan or tin can is also used to flush the toilet with water dipped out of the garbage can.There you go! Cannot get any more practical or environmental! I've also seen a small hand towel hanging close by so you can dry the area before you pull up your pants / undies. Saves on toilet paper expenses! Of course one can always do the drip and dry and walk around with a wet spot on the back of his / her cloth. And you thought it was gross to dry your hand with a towel someone else had used!
Be safe (and dry) ,
APAC Man
Snow Koala
04-21-11, 09:08
Okay. So if I met a girl, take her out for dinner to a nice place (Not KFC) , and in the morning I give her between 1, 500 to 2, 000 I am within the limit. Right? Going once, going twice, . Any other opinion please?
Thnaks in advance.
APAC ManI live and work in Makati and I pay 1, 500 to 2, 000 per time. I prefer to take 2 girls cause then they don't get all clingy and want something more.
FreebieFan
04-21-11, 12:25
And what most poorer families have, that is, what these girls are accustomed to at home, is a big container of water (often a 30 gallon or so plastic garbage can) next to the toilet and a small saucepan with handle (or sometimes just a large tin can) to dip the water and pour down over the nether regions. When the family has a toilet, which is often not connected to water under pressure, the same saucepan or tin can is also used to flush the toilet with water dipped out of the garbage can.Funny how topics come around and around. I recall giving a lengthy description of the turd water bombing style needed to flush recalcitrant turds down the crapper in the "family toilet ". Good to know were back on familiar ground. LOL
Member #4351
04-21-11, 17:24
For you guys who are going to be in Manila. The 18 year old girl who is infatuated with foreigner prong asked me to mention that she just won her University Beauty Contest. She was involved with final exams but now has plenty of time. PM me if interested in contact information.
D: Sent you email.
For those that don't know him, David is one of the most generous guys you will ever meet in terms of sharing girls without ulterior motive.
Agree 1500 is the going rate at MBC but does not mean they won't try to get more particularly from the obvious newbie or overpayor. Tip for good performance is very appropriate but not a piso more than agreed if she does not do as agreed in any respect. Treat them nice and don't bargain too hard if you want GFE. Giving Pasalubong is better than cash as they remember you more. Decorations for cellphones, makeup, perfume, candy, stuffed animals etc all are well received. Avoid flowers which younger filipinas associate with funerals; plus in that climate flowers wilt almost immediately.
If I meet a girl outside of the bar environment, sleep with her all night, bang her at least twice and there's been no discussion of money, then I never give more than 1000p. But it's good to figure out if she would be insulted by taking the money in which case you could phrase it as a previous poster says "buy something for your family". If she hints that she needs a little help for her family but doesn't name a figure, then it's 1000p for LT. 500p for ST. Now if the girl names a price, this is usually in advance, they've made themselves clear and that's often negotiable so you can go from there and decide whether you want to pay or move on.
Funny how topics come around and around. I recall giving a lengthy description of the turd water bombing style needed to flush recalcitrant turds down the crapper in the "family toilet ". Good to know were back on familiar ground. LOLThat's ground I would rather not be familiar with.
That spoon is called a "tabo" so if you hear that word, that's what they're referring to.
I often carry flushable wipes in a travel packet when moving around town. Public toilets such as you'll find in the major malls usually don't have a tabo or toilet paper. One never knows when #2 will strike, especially given the possibility that the sisig or lumpia you just ate may have been made with questionable sanitation standards.
Freelancer rate at Manila Bay Cafe is 1500p (undisputed). The BS / BF (bar stool / bar fine) guys pay up to 3000p and more and think they are Donald Trump. I'm proudly a Cheap Charley. Which I'll take anyday, over stupid forigner.
Up 2u. 1500? I was at Manila Bay Cafe last month. It was the first time since 2007. I ran into a girl I first did in 2005. I asked her what was the going rate these days and she said the same. Well back then the rate was 1000 st and 1500 lt. Well I took her for a st and paid her 1000 and she was happy. Few days later I took another girl out for a st and paid 1000.
If I meet a girl outside of the bar environment, sleep with her all night, bang her at least twice and there's been no discussion of money, then I never give more than 1000p. But it's good to figure out if she would be insulted by taking the money in which case you could phrase it as a previous poster says "buy something for your family". If she hints that she needs a little help for her family but doesn't name a figure, then it's 1000p for LT. 500p for ST. Now if the girl names a price, this is usually in advance, they've made themselves clear and that's often negotiable so you can go from there and decide whether you want to pay or move on.Thanks. It reminds me of an old Joke:
Man: Would you sleep with me for $1, 000, 000?
Girl: Hmmmmm. Aaaaaaaa. Welll. Okay!
Man: How about for $10?
Girl: WHAT? What do you think I am? A prostitute?
Man: Well my dear, we already established that! We are now negotiating the price!
So to me if the girl asks for a price up front, she is a WG. If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it is a DUCK!
Be Safe,
APAC Man
That's ground I would rather not be familiar with.
That spoon is called a "tabo" so if you hear that word, that's what they're referring to.
I often carry flushable wipes in a travel packet when moving around town. Public toilets such as you'll find in the major malls usually don't have a tabo or toilet paper. One never knows when #2 will strike, especially given the possibility that the sisig or lumpia you just ate may have been made with questionable sanitation standards. So the man is sitting (or squatting) on the toilet with no tabo Or toilet paper And he hears a knock on the stall wall.
Hey buddy, it there any toilet paper at your stall?
No! I am afraid not
Long pause.
Do you have 2 fives for a ten?
Be Safe,
APAC Man
I am in manila and I had a really good Friday. I found a freelance. She work at a shop. I gave her 2000. I have been very happy with her and it was also "GOOD FRIDAY"! Thanks for informations
I forgot she was at manila cafe (la cafe)
Last time I was in Manila I saw this korean dude with this super hot pinoy. I am sure she wasn't his gf because I asked him. She was definitely a pro, but from what I have seen online escort ads, none has been close to her quality. Slim, great skin, beautiful face and features, very presentable. My question is where can I find someone like that? I am sure none at LA Cafe is of that quality either.
Thanks in advance!
WestCoast1
04-23-11, 07:03
1500? I was at Manila Bay Cafe last month. It was the first time since 2007. I ran into a girl I first did in 2005. I asked her what was the going rate these days and she said the same. Well back then the rate was 1000 st and 1500 lt. Well I took her for a st and paid her 1000 and she was happy. Few days later I took another girl out for a st and paid 1000.Cheapy was referring to the LT rate.
My second day report.
After having tried Burgos I wanted to check out the infamous EDSA complex.
Figured it would be easy peasy to find it. Got into a taxi and said take me to the EDSA Complex please. That's a funny story. If you would have inserted the word "Entertainment," the driver would have probably figured it out. I have never had a driver not know of it. Also, try to remember a couple of the bars like Firehouse, Cotton Club, or Pitstop.
Also, it is advisable to get there somewhat early, like between 8p and 9p. Many of the girls like to go home by 3a or 4a; for me. 5 or 6 hours is enough.
I agree that the girls at EDSA are just as attractive as the Burgos girls. The only thing I don't like about the place is haggling with the taxi drivers when leaving. And, if it is raining, forget it; they got you by the short ones.
Are you associating your sex escapades with a religious event? How far do you want to provoke people that disagree with you?
You've gone way over the line, but if you are sure the Internet guarantees your privacy for the rest of your life, there is nothing to worry about.
I am absolutely blown away that someone wants to venture into this territory.
I am in manila and I had a really good Friday. I found a freelance. She work at a shop. I gave her 2000. I have been very happy with her and it was also "GOOD FRIDAY"! Thanks for informations
Last time I was in Manila I saw this korean dude with this super hot pinoy. I am sure she wasn't his gf because I asked him. She was definitely a pro, but from what I have seen online escort ads, none has been close to her quality. Slim, great skin, beautiful face and features, very presentable. My question is where can I find someone like that? I am sure none at LA Cafe is of that quality either.
Thanks in advance! I no longer reside in the Phils but as a long term ex resident I can tell you, Its the norm for rich businessmen / politicians etc to have top shelf pussy on their arms. You don't find this pussy, it finds you.
Have money, mix in the right circles and be a-m-a-z-e-d at what you will have shagging you.
Pussy like that does not work for an hourly rate hehehehe.
AV
Snow Koala
04-24-11, 10:56
So I went into Mercury drug store in Makati the other day and I picked the cutest girl I could find and I said to her 'Can you show me where the condoms are? '. She said ' Ok Sir' and I followed her cute little butt to the isle with the condoms. I then asked her which are the extra large ones. She looked at me with big eyes and then pointed aimlessly to the Durex brand. I picked a box up and said to her 'Are you sure these are XL because when I go and buy a shirt in the mall and I ask for XL, it never fits'. She blushed and smiled and said 'I don't know, Sir'. Then I said with my best straight face 'Do you have change rooms when I could try one on? '. The poor girl had no answer and was covering her face looking for help from her friends which were nowhere to be seen. Later I saw her chuckling with her friends in the corner while they were all looking at me. Hopefully, that made her day.
I gota tell you, I had to practice that line quite a bit to be able to say that to her with a straight face.
FreebieFan
04-24-11, 11:36
Are you associating your sex escapades with a religious event? How far do you want to provoke people that disagree with you?
You've gone way over the line, but if you are sure the Internet guarantees your privacy for the rest of your life, there is nothing to worry about.
I am absolutely blown away that someone wants to venture into this territory. I got lots of" today is " good Friday " texts," from Filipinas, and a few of the more humourous Filipinas I know ventured that next Friday would be " Bd Friday ". LOL. I didn't know there were any lines in Internet land.
So I went into Mercury drug store in Makati the other day and I picked the cutest girl I could find and I said to her 'Can you show me where the condoms are? '. She said ' Ok Sir' and I followed her cute little butt to the isle with the condoms. I then asked her which are the extra large ones. She looked at me with big eyes and then pointed aimlessly to the Durex brand. I picked a box up and said to her 'Are you sure these are XL because when I go and buy a shirt in the mall and I ask for XL, it never fits'. She blushed and smiled and said 'I don't know, Sir'. Then I said with my best straight face 'Do you have change rooms when I could try one on? '. The poor girl had no answer and was covering her face looking for help from her friends which were nowhere to be seen. Later I saw her chuckling with her friends in the corner while they were all looking at me. Hopefully, that made her day.
I gota tell you, I had to practice that line quite a bit to be able to say that to her with a straight face. Hahahaha. Legendary!
I got to try that! .
Are you associating your sex escapades with a religious event? How far do you want to provoke people that disagree with you?
You've gone way over the line, but if you are sure the Internet guarantees your privacy for the rest of your life, there is nothing to worry about.
I am absolutely blown away that someone wants to venture into this territory.Dude, chill out, he made a joke about him having a good Friday. He didn't stick a crucifix up his ass or anything!
(Did he?)
So I went into Mercury drug store in Makati the other day and I picked the cutest girl I could find and I said to her 'Can you show me where the condoms are? '. She said ' Ok Sir' and I followed her cute little butt to the isle with the condoms. I then asked her which are the extra large ones. She looked at me with big eyes and then pointed aimlessly to the Durex brand. I picked a box up and said to her 'Are you sure these are XL because when I go and buy a shirt in the mall and I ask for XL, it never fits'. She blushed and smiled and said 'I don't know, Sir'. Then I said with my best straight face 'Do you have change rooms when I could try one on? '. The poor girl had no answer and was covering her face looking for help from her friends which were nowhere to be seen. Later I saw her chuckling with her friends in the corner while they were all looking at me. Hopefully, that made her day.
I gota tell you, I had to practice that line quite a bit to be able to say that to her with a straight face. LOL next time try and pass your number to her while paying for them. LOL this may just work!
FreebieFan
04-24-11, 14:28
So I went into Mercury drug store in Makati the other day and I picked the cutest girl I could find and I said to her 'Can you show me where the condoms are? '. She said ' Ok Sir' and I followed her cute little butt to the isle with the condoms. I then asked her which are the extra large ones. She looked at me with big eyes and then pointed aimlessly to the Durex brand. I picked a box up and said to her 'Are you sure these are XL because when I go and buy a shirt in the mall and I ask for XL, it never fits'. She blushed and smiled and said 'I don't know, Sir'. Then I said with my best straight face 'Do you have change rooms when I could try one on? '. The poor girl had no answer and was covering her face looking for help from her friends which were nowhere to be seen. Later I saw her chuckling with her friends in the corner while they were all looking at me. Hopefully, that made her day.
I gota tell you, I had to practice that line quite a bit to be able to say that to her with a straight face. Yeah. Thats a coool story. Must have been fun!
Talkng of never fitting bought some condoms other day called Sagami original. Advertised in my Watsons as being thinner than Okamoto0. 02's. Knowing they were Japanese I excluded the normal size and got the Large (my Chinese isn't up to explaining do you have XL LOL ). Found my girl and off we go. We get ready for take off, and damn, these condoms may have been large for a Japanese (and I'm s normal sized guy I think!) they were tiny on me! Hard just to get on, and they didn't have the roll down facility that Durex has. Most unsatisfactory bonk,
So. Moral of the story is. Do as Snow koala tongue in cheeked, and if it aint Durex, ask for a fitting. LOL.
Hairy Wonder
04-24-11, 23:11
Are you associating your sex escapades with a religious event? How far do you want to provoke people that disagree with you?
You've gone way over the line, but if you are sure the Internet guarantees your privacy for the rest of your life, there is nothing to worry about.
I am absolutely blown away that someone wants to venture into this territory. I wasn't aware that any religion had the exclusive rights to the words "good Friday." This is like being upset at people using TGIF (Thank God It's Friday) , which most are not using in a religious context. I don't think anyone on this forum is any more morally right than anyone else. If any religious group is going to be upset at the statement Liondale made in his post, we better all duck and cover.
WestCoast1
04-25-11, 18:23
so last year i turn on my bad-boy profile and get a hit from a girl in manila. 36 years old. caryn. we go to ym, and right away she says she thinks about sex all the time, and asks if i do to. i'm thinking maybe a cam-show girl. but no. she turns on her cam without being asked. cute and nice bod for her age. she can't keep from talking sex. i kept waiting for her to offer a show but she didn't. when i mentioned that i was coming to phils in a week, she gave me her number and specifically asked if i would meet and have sex. never say no to such a thing.
so i get to philippines with a spreadsheet full of girls contact information. sorted first on city, then age (youngest first). manila, cebu, ac, cdo, batangas, etc. for manila, caryn was last on my to-do list as she was the oldest. after making my way around the archipelago, i end back up in manila for a week. i pick up a g-point girl the first night. next morning i get a text from the caryn, asking when if i'm in manila. i had a bunch of contacts left in manila who were younger, but figured since caryn was so hot for it that i'd give her a try. we met in the mall and after mcdo she wanted to go right to the hotel. she is cute, and about 4' 6". check, please. off we went. she stripped out of her dress and showered quickly. i was watching tv when she came out naked, crawled onto the foot of the bed, and without speaking started sucking my cock. in fact she had not spoken since leaving the mall. she spent a good 20 minutes sucking, licking my balls, and rimming. her mouth alone was a dynamo of good clean fun; she has an amazing tongue that never stops.
i was about to roll her onto her back and bang her when she climbed on top of me and impaled herself on my cock. she pulled her legs up to get her feet under herself so she could ride me while squatting and standing on her feet, with her hands on my chest. she got enraptured with the riding, and she started going at it hard. most girls can ride on top for just a few minutes until their legs give out. not this one. five minutes. ten. fifteen. twenty minutes. her hair had fallen over her face and i could not see her face anymore, i could just hear her labored breathing, and see her from the neck down. watching the clock by the bed: 1:18. 1:24. 1:31. 1:39. 1:42. like that. she would say things like: 'i fuck long time. ' and, 'i no stop i fuck on top. you see. ' and, 'i like a fucking. i like a fucking. ' and, 'i make me cum. ' not that i could see her saying those things, because her hair was completely covering her face. a few times i pulled her hair back to see her face, she was enraptured in the sex, concentrating furiously. when i put my hand to touch her face, she was burning hot on her head and face, like a fever, and my moving her hair to the side would let heat out that was trapped under her hair next to her face. she was on fire on top of me, and showed no sign of slowing down.
i got bored. she was making herself cum, but not fucking fast enuf to make me cum. should i let her continue the ride? roll her over and hammer her for myself? i didn't get to decide. she climbed off and went back down on me. same as before, sucking, licking, rimming, the amazing tongue. another 15 minutes. then she climbed back on top to ride again. i started to get up and roll her onto her back, and she pushed me down hard with her hands: 'no. you rest. i working it. you are on you bacation. ' hahahaha. what? so away she went again on top, hair in her face, squatting on her feet, neck and face getting feverish again. 'ahhhhhhhooooh my god i cummed again. ' 1:59. 2:08. 2:13. finally i pushed her over onto her back and mounted atop. i hammered her for about 2 minutes, and was getting close to blowing, about 30 seconds out, when she stopped me with: 'no! wait! ' she pushed me off, pushed on my shoulder to roll me on my back, and went down again. the flitting tongue, rimming, sucking. then she climbed back on top again for another 10-15 minute ride, just like before. 2:30 on the clock. i can't take it anymore, i got to have some action myself, i'm not close anymore. so i push her off and turn her doggy style. that should do the trick. nope. the harder i hammered, the further from it i got. wood, but nothing more. she on the other hand, went off like a pinball machine. a human dynamo of orgasmic propensity. she was 3-4-5 minutes between orgasms.
2:45pm. now what? she disengaged, pushed me back down on my back, and went down. perfectly happy with a cock / balls in her mouth. 2:55, she's back on top, exactly like before. 3:08pm, and i turn her on her back (she constantly stares at my cock going in / out of her pussy) , hammer for a few minutes, and finally turn one loose. whew! two hours of being raped by the human dynamo (things could be worse). i was drained.
or so i thought. she went to rinse in the shower, but my wood remained. i even pissed and it was still there. when she came out of the shower to watch tv with me, after a few minutes she went back down, i assume to work out any remaining oral fixations she might still have. then she climbed back on top. after about 20 furious minutes i pulled her off. even though hard, i was spent and done. she rinsed again, put her dress on, and grabbed her small hand purse. she stepped into the bathroom and closed the door, and i figured i should drop some pesos to her. i pulled out a p1000 note from my wallet just as she was coming out of the bathroom, and put it on the bed. 'for you hun. ' oh boy. that was a mistake:
her: no! you do that you make puta of me! already you buy me a lunch and fucking me really good. its good day for me. you put that back in your wallet. you give me a taxi only.
me: ahhhh. i figured you have needs hun.
her: i do. you put that away. taxi only.
so i handed her 200 pesos which she was fine with. and then, it happened. a most amazing conversation. that would lead to multiple girls for fun. more in the next report.
Member #4351
04-25-11, 18:57
wow westcoast1, i'm speechless.
might you have od´d with the vitamin v?
Mongrinastrlnd
04-25-11, 23:39
Yeah. Thats a coool story. Must have been fun!
Talkng of never fitting bought some condoms other day called Sagami original. Advertised in my Watsons as being thinner than Okamoto0. 02's. Knowing they were Japanese I excluded the normal size and got the Large (my Chinese isn't up to explaining do you have XL LOL ). Found my girl and off we go. We get ready for take off, and damn, these condoms may have been large for a Japanese (and I'm s normal sized guy I think!) they were tiny on me! Hard just to get on, and they didn't have the roll down facility that Durex has. Most unsatisfactory bonk,
So. Moral of the story is. Do as Snow koala tongue in cheeked, and if it aint Durex, ask for a fitting. LOL. They're polyurethane not rubber and don't have as much stretch.
They're tight and sometimes difficult to get on, but the thinness is as-advertised. My GF doesn't like them for some reason, so I usually use the Okamotos.
She went to rinse in the shower, but my wood remained. I even pissed and it was still there.
I you have an erection that lasts longer than 4 hours consult your doctor immediately.Http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000252/#a604008-precautions
Actually if I have an erection that lasts 4 hours, I'm joining the circus.
Fredje1961
04-26-11, 12:46
I think you have about one thousand readers eagerly awaiting the next report.
So I handed her 200 pesos which she was fine with. And then, it happened. A most amazing conversation. That would lead to multiple girls for fun. More in the next report.
First day was a very good one for me in Manila.
I hooked up with my DIA pal. I had gone out on some errands on tricycle and when I got back to hotel she was waiting for me.
25 years old, very sweet girl. Lets see how would I put it. She is very hip and open. A total great find in my view. Just what I was looking for. After introductions and chit chat, I stripped and told her I needed a BJ, and she said OK. I don't think she has had a lot of experience, but it was very good. She was totally about pleasing me, and did everything I asked.
Onto lunch, Gloriettas mall and ate at Gerry's grill. The battered shrimp and local dishes were very tasty. 4 entree dishes and drinks set me back about 1600 pesos. But it is in the mall and I thought mall prices.
Went back to the hotel for a nap and slept all day.
Onto dinner, went out to Hard Rock cafe in Glorietta mall about 9 pm. I am glad that we chose this. They a had a band playing called "Area 1", they were very good. A good fun crowd, were there. Typical Hardrock fare for food but tasty. Drinks were very tasty, I had a Margarita and about 3 red horse. She had a margarita and mojito.
Went back to hotel and played a little grab ass and asked for another BJ to help sleep. She did and this time was better cause she was a little drunk and really getting into it.
I must say my first day in Manila was great.
WestCoast1
04-27-11, 17:41
Http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0000252/#a604008-precautions
Actually if I have an erection that lasts 4 hours, I'm joining the circus. You know what they say about Cialis: 1 hour of good clean fun, followed by 35 hours of ring-toss.
WestCoast1
04-27-11, 18:02
I think you have about one thousand readers eagerly awaiting the next report.Ya, and to the gents who have asked for her number, I can't give that out (multiple reasons). Here's where it gets good.
More Caryn. I put my clothes on and walk her to the door. Just as I grab the doorhandle to see her out, this amazing conversation:
Her: you want again? Tonight?
Me: huh?
Her: you want me here again your bed tonight. I like.
Me: ahhhh. No. You wore me out. I am exhausted!
Her: oh hehe. You want tomorrow night?
Me: ya sure I like also.
Her: you want other girl?
Me: huh?
Her: you want me bring other girl also.
Me: you have other girls?
Her: yes.
Me: really.
Her: I have many.
Me: like who?
Her: tell me how you like. I have many.
Me: like how old?
Her: yes how old you like. Also you want a skinny? Pretty? You say.
Me: ah. Ok. How young do you have.
Her: I have 12. 14. How young you want?
Me: whoa. How much older do you have.
Her: 50. 60. Any you say.
Me: um just 20's is fine?
Her: yes. I have niece and cousin.
Me: really. And they are interested you think?
Her: yes. You want? Which one.
Me: you decide.
And with that, I walked her down to the street (mostly at that point I limped) and watched her hop in a jeepney. Your first thought is, bola. She's not going to bring a young girl to your hotel just because she likes sex. But you would be wrong.
The next night, she showed up promptly at 8 (prompt is rare) with her much younger niece. She was cute, and what followed was another knock-out marathon session of alternating from shy-at-first-but-horny-later young thing, to horny-and-eager aunt. Even the niece couldn't believe how long and hard her aunt went at it (she would roll her eyes at me, referring to her aunt). About 11 we showered and watched TV a bit, and drifted off. In the morning was another shorter session, mostly with the older aunt. She's the energizer bunny.
If you think this stuff is good, it is. And it gets better. More later.
Viajando Musico
04-27-11, 20:38
I no longer reside in the Phils but as a long term ex resident I can tell you, Its the norm for rich businessmen / politicians etc to have top shelf pussy on their arms. You don't find this pussy, it finds you.
Have money, mix in the right circles and be a-m-a-z-e-the at what you will have shagging you.
Pussy like that does not work for an hourly rate hehehehe.
AVWell said, most of the girls you see in the P4P scene are 7-8 at best, mostly are below 5. The 9+ are snapped by rich locals immediately once they appear in the scene. These locals have their infomant looking out for them. So flash some Pesos and build up your network first.
Hairy Wonder
04-28-11, 04:23
I think you have about one thousand readers eagerly awaiting the next report.Or madly searching DIA for any girl named Caryn! :D
Well said, most of the girls you see in the P4P scene are 7-8 at best, mostly are below 5. The 9+ are snapped by rich locals immediately once they appear in the scene. These locals have their infomant looking out for them. So flash some Pesos and build up your network first.I live here outside manila and I have seen more than one sweet heart with old Filipino Business guys.
My neighbor here is a wealthy business guy in his 70's with a 16 year old hottie on the side.
My wife' niece is a nurse in one of the big manila hospitals and one of the older doctors there keeps her in designer clothes and cars. You want find her strutting her stuff in MBC.
If you think that the hot girls are in Angeles bars or manila bars then think again.
Going back to Manila (away for 2 yrs). Staying at Heritage so I'll be moving across the street to Edsa (Firehouse) for my take away.
Can any of you help to give me the latest rates in Edsa / Firehouse:
Ladies Drinks: P?
Bar fine: P?
ST for girl : range?
LT for girl : range?
Appreciate you help friends!
Took my girl to Burgos st. Last night as I wanted to check it out. She was curious as well.
A lot of girls walking around the street, most of them were cute to hot. (6 to 8)
I wanted to check out Jools and see the show. It was around 930 pm, and there was no cover charge. Went in and ordered a beer for myself and my girl had some kind of cocktail. Total for both was 425 pesos.
There were 2 sets of dancing girls consisting of 8 girls each in bikini that would rotate turns on the stage. Also there were about 20 girls working there in hot dresses and were required to dance on the floor to strut their stuff and work the crowd.
Then the main show started at 10pm, to me this worth going there. The main show girls were really hot, and did know how to dance. All of their costumes were sheer so you could see their tits. A nice way to get turned on for the evening.
Back to the hotel for a nice round of sex, another good night.
Kork
green belt 3.
i got to say manila is really great. all the girls are so friendly, and open. all the girls at my hotel are super cute. my girl is staying with me most of the time and is always friendly to the help. she is very cute at 25 and looks younger.
i always ask my girl, which one of these girls attracts you? it's getting to be a fun game with us. at breakfast a really cute and shapely girl served us at our hotel. after eating my girl says "she has a really nice butt" and i said "oh you noticed that too"?
anyway we checked out mall of asia for lunch, and greenbelt for the night fare thursday.
at greenbelt 3 i wanted to see the havanna cafe. we are walking by cafe after cafe and mostly all asian customers. and then i see the sign for havanna cafe, at least 20 western men sitting alone and drinking waiting for something to happen. there also were some tables of girls, and some guys that had already hooked up with a cutie.
after that we stopped at spicy fingers to eat. a really cool place and good food.
back to the hotel. i'm ready for another round. with my young hottie girl it is easy for me to get turned on. i start playing grab ass and licking and sucking her nipples which she loves. at this point in time she is really relaxed and has no problem doing anything i ask.
tonight i am in the mood to lick her clit, after licking her nipples for some time, i tell her to remove her panties. i start licking her clit and kissing her inner thighs," oh i like it" she says. i continue this and she is getting into it. then i start using my finger on her saliva soaked clit, playing it like a guitar. this really gets her going, she starts grabbing my hand and holding it, for me to slow down. later she will tell me "using your finger like that made me want to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)" and then she asked "is that what you call a squirter". yeah thats right, they all watch porn on the net.
then i tell her to give some bj, she is good. licking the balls like i tell her. then i put condom and tell her to get on top. oh man, is she really into it or what. she was totally rocking my world, and trying to do some booty poppin' filipina style, kept this going for a few minutes. then flipped her to mish and pinned her for the finish.
later she tells me i am the first guy that has used condom with her. all her filipino boyfriend never used.
kork
FreebieFan
04-29-11, 05:02
The guys resident in Manila with regular "pulls" don't go through the logistics challenges, lies, excuses, corny lines, phone tag, emails, etc that it takes to make a workable schedule for screwing as many ladies as possible in a visit that only lasts a few days. But finally, in an effort that DHL would be proud of I'm now set up.
Day 1. Chat friend (25) from baguio who wants to play with all my battery operated toys, followed by a helper from HK on vacation in Manila (28 big boobs) and to finish a married lady who loves lingerie late afternoon and all evening.
Day 2. Starts early afternoon with a 19 year old in alabang or an 18 year old in Taguig. Either way will be good.
Will finish with a repeat, a 19 year old student who I had last time.
Day 3 will start with a gal I met when she was pregnant (21) but now looks good. Then a gal from Cebu (19) is flying in. Super cute I just couldn't resist getting her up to manila. She will be a photographic gold mine as she has sweetest face I've seen in years. Says she wants to try mny things she's never tried before I like the sound of that!
Will take her to airport early on day 4 and then its choice of a few. Will send out some txts and see whos attracted to the bait.
Am sure this schedule will have some twists and turns as one gilr will no doubt declare some emergency or some unexpected period but the now the sched is set. Back to work and a devilish grin of anticipation!
I had trouble getting the gals to stay LT. I paid 1500 for ST. I don't remember what I paid for drinks. X.
Going back to Manila (away for 2 yrs). Staying at Heritage so I'll be moving across the street to Edsa (Firehouse) for my take away.
Can any of you help to give me the latest rates in Edsa / Firehouse:
Ladies Drinks: P?
Bar fine: P?
ST for girl : range?
LT for girl : range?
Appreciate you help friends!
WestCoast1
04-29-11, 19:08
The guys resident in Manila with regular "pulls" don't go through the logistics challenges, lies, excuses, corny lines, phone tag, emails, etc that it takes to make a workable schedule for screwing as many ladies as possible in a visit that only lasts a few days. But finally, in an effort that DHL would be proud of I'm now set up.
Day 1. Chat friend (25) from baguio who wants to play with all my battery operated toys, followed by a helper from HK on vacation in Manila (28 big boobs) and to finish a married lady who loves lingerie late afternoon and all evening.
Day 2. Starts early afternoon with a 19 year old in alabang or an 18 year old in Taguig. Either way will be good.
Will finish with a repeat, a 19 year old student who I had last time.
Day 3 will start with a gal I met when she was pregnant (21) but now looks good. Then a gal from Cebu (19) is flying in. Super cute I just couldn't resist getting her up to manila. She will be a photographic gold mine as she has sweetest face I've seen in years. Says she wants to try mny things she's never tried before I like the sound of that!
Will take her to airport early on day 4 and then its choice of a few. Will send out some txts and see whos attracted to the bait.
Am sure this schedule will have some twists and turns as one gilr will no doubt declare some emergency or some unexpected period but the now the sched is set. Back to work and a devilish grin of anticipation! My new hero. Freebie for President!
Cyber Whip
04-29-11, 22:15
Going back to Manila (away for 2 yrs). Staying at Heritage so I'll be moving across the street to Edsa (Firehouse) for my take away.
Can any of you help to give me the latest rates in Edsa / Firehouse:
Ladies Drinks: P?
Bar fine: P?
ST for girl : range?
LT for girl : range?
Appreciate you help friends! Last I remember, maybe a year ago or so, I was in there a few times during the LAC debacle, was told BF was 1500p (bar gets all) , non-negotiable and was same at all EDSA bars. I verified this to be true at the time. Then the girl will expect about 2000p tip (negotiable to a point) , for ST. And that was about all the time wanted, no LT, but I really didn't have the time anyways so I didn't push for it. EDSA seemed to be a rip off for those prices. I don't remember drink prices but I recall them not being very cheap, say 150p for guy and 200-300 for the girl, don't quote me on that.
Going back to Manila (away for 2 yrs). Staying at Heritage so I'll be moving across the street to Edsa (Firehouse) for my take away.
Can any of you help to give me the latest rates in Edsa / Firehouse:
Ladies Drinks: P?
Bar fine: P?
ST for girl : range?
LT for girl : range?
Appreciate you help friends! Was in EDSA 2 weeks ago and took home this girl April (real name) from the western-style bar (don't remember the name). BF was 1600 and she asked 2500 for longtime. I had only 2000 in cash but she agreed on that and we was supposed to go to an ATM for the rest after breakfast. But since I was all worn out after 2 weeks intensive shagging and had to leave for home at 11 I sendt her home 8 am and she was all happy with only the 2000.
Don't rememer LD price but think it was almost 300.
Hairy Wonder
04-29-11, 23:38
My new hero. Freebie for President!Yeah! We can make history again (better than electing Obama). Free mongering for everyone! :D
Hey fellas I'm a young guy in good shape not bad looking. Its my first time in the phils. I'm wondering where to meet non working girls? If all else fails I will try the firehouse but I'm hoping to score with my charms. So, where does the average guy go to meet cute young girls (non-pro) in manila?
Member #4643
04-30-11, 03:30
Hey fellas I'm a young guy in good shape not bad looking. Its my first time in the phils. I'm wondering where to meet non working girls? If all else fails I will try the firehouse but I'm hoping to score with my charms. So, where does the average guy go to meet cute young girls (non-pro) in manila?I have only spent a few days in Manila, but it seemed to me that its one of the easiest places on the planet to get laid. I found that every tourist shop I went to had a salesgirl, and that they were all clearly interested in going out with me. I went to the Hard Rock Cafe, and the waitresses were overly friendly and clearly up for an invite (it was a Tuesday night, and the place was empty so we could talk a little). And, when I went to buy a cell phone, the salesgirl was also overly friendly. In short, whenever I came upon a pretty girl whom I liked, the girl seemed ready to go out with me. However, I did not go out with any of these girls, because I was too busy with a girl I met on DIA whom I had invited to Manila from another city (I cannot remember where it was, but the bus ticket I purchased was not expensive). She and I were horizontal within 5 minutes of meeting each other.
Before my DIA girl showed up, I went for a few massages, and arranged for one of the girls to come back to my hotel. My masseuse, who had done a BBBJTCIM (but refused intercourse) , wanted to fuck me without a condom within minutes of showing up.
I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed my experience in Manila! I am in my sixth decade of life, but I doubt that was helpful for me. I think a younger man, as long as he is not a teenager, could choose nearly any unmarried girl to date. Most of them, I am certain, would sleep with a younger American or European guy. Every store, restaurant, bar and shopping mall would be fertile hunting grounds. It is hard to imagine you will go a day without a non pro if you try just a little bit. And, if you try to line up some girls in advance via DIA, you can be guaranteed success.
Keep in mind, non-pros are NOT free. They just don't negotiate up front. In the end, if you play the dating game, they are far more expensive than working girls.
Hey fellas I'm a young guy in good shape not bad looking. Its my first time in the phils. I'm wondering where to meet non working girls? If all else fails I will try the firehouse but I'm hoping to score with my charms. So, where does the average guy go to meet cute young girls (non-pro) in manila?Two words. Internet. Dating.
I have only spent a few days in Manila, but it seemed to me that its one of the easiest places on the planet to get laid. I found that every tourist shop I went to had a salesgirl, and that they were all clearly interested in going out with me. I went to the Hard Rock Cafe, and the waitresses were overly friendly and clearly up for an invite (it was a Tuesday night, and the place was empty so we could talk a little). And, when I went to buy a cell phone, the salesgirl was also overly friendly. In short, whenever I came upon a pretty girl whom I liked, the girl seemed ready to go out with me. However, I did not go out with any of these girls, because I was too busy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .It is interesting that you said "seemed to me" and."clearly interested." " up for an invite." "Seemed ready to go out with me." but you never actually specifically asked them. Despite your impression you might be surprised if you started actually hitting on these girls.
I am not disagreeing with you in that the girls are very friendly, but many of these extraordinarily friendly girls love to chat up foreigners and practice their english and, especially at Hard Rock Cafe, are professional cock teasers. I had a drink at HRC recently one night when it was very quiet too and I had a long chat with a very cute sexy flirty waitress. I had my wife with me and so the girl was relaxed enough to tell us how so many guys hit on her and want to take her out and how she plays them along but she never goes out with them.
We all know the stories (some of them embellished) of guys picking up waitresses and shop girls etc but it is nowhere near as common as you might think, especially if you are an "older guy". I am sure most of the reports here talk about the successes only and not the "knockbacks". I would suggest that for every shop girl that goes out with a foreigner there will be at least 10 who will flirt with you but at the crunch they will say no. Need to be home to Mom & Dad. At the most they will say OK but just for a drink and can I bring a friend.
Despite the various stories and reputations filipinas have on ISG and DIA etc etc they are still very conservative and not nearly as promiscuous as guys would want to believe. Remember there are almost 50 million females here, probably 10 M in Manila alone, so I think my 1 in 10 percentage above is accurate.
I have lived here for 14 years now so my observation is based on a fair bit of experience from all over the Philippines.
Hey fellas I'm a young guy in good shape not bad looking. Its my first time in the phils. I'm wondering where to meet non working girls? If all else fails I will try the firehouse but I'm hoping to score with my charms. So, where does the average guy go to meet cute young girls (non-pro) in manila?We have a 4-word answer ready for your questions Jbizzy.
RTFF.
Despite the various stories and reputations filipinas have on ISG and DIA etc etc they are still very conservative and not nearly as promiscuous as guys would want to believe. Remember there are almost 50 million females here, probably 10 M in Manila alone, so I think my 1 in 10 percentage above is accurate.
I have lived here for 14 years now so my observation is based on a fair bit of experience from all over the Philippines. I totally agree with Red Kilt on this one, sales girls and waitresses are super friendly but they are not bargirls, don't get the two mixed up. I have hooked up with shop girls from Bench but it was after some work. A friend and I, we were both in our early 20's, back then, and we aren't bad looking guys. We decided to hit up every shop girl in the mall, we seriously went to 30 stores or more before we met the girls at Bench. And it was totally by chance, these girls at anytime know that they could go work at EDSA or DIA or whatever, if they are busting their hump at a store, its most likely they are not interested. Not saying you won't run into girls that would be interested but the chances at about 10% or less like Red Kilt said and it is seriously too much work. Even the girls at bench it took us 2 days to get anywhere with them and it was work, it was as much work as in the States, maybe even harder cause we can can hook up with girls on the first day in the States sometimes. On top of that, we had to spend bucks on taking them out, etc. On top of that it was a real hassle cause they had to work until 9pm at night and be back to work, early. Too much hassle and work and we were in our 20's, so I hope this gives you an idea. Not saying you can't get lucky, which can happen but they are easier ways going about this than randomly trying to run into someone.
LoveAsianWhores
04-30-11, 07:43
It is interesting that you said "seemed to me" and."clearly interested." " up for an invite." "Seemed ready to go out with me." but you never actually specifically asked them. Despite your impression you might be surprised if you started actually hitting on these girls.
I am not disagreeing with you in that the girls are very friendly, but many of these extraordinarily friendly girls love to chat up foreigners and practice their english and, especially at Hard Rock Cafe, are professional cock teasers. I had a drink at HRC recently one night when it was very quiet too and I had a long chat with a very cute sexy flirty waitress. I had my wife with me and so the girl was relaxed enough to tell us how so many guys hit on her and want to take her out and how she plays them along but she never goes out with them.
We all know the stories (some of them embellished) of guys picking up waitresses and shop girls etc but it is nowhere near as common as you might think, especially if you are an "older guy". I am sure most of the reports here talk about the successes only and not the "knockbacks". I would suggest that for every shop girl that goes out with a foreigner there will be at least 10 who will flirt with you but at the crunch they will say no. Need to be home to Mom & Dad. At the most they will say OK but just for a drink and can I bring a friend.
Despite the various stories and reputations filipinas have on ISG and DIA etc etc they are still very conservative and not nearly as promiscuous as guys would want to believe. Remember there are almost 50 million females here, probably 10 M in Manila alone, so I think my 1 in 10 percentage above is accurate.
I have lived here for 14 years now so my observation is based on a fair bit of experience from all over the Philippines. With about 1, 000 bargirls under my belt, maybe 20 girls of unknown origin, and no confirmed regular girls, I can attest to the accuracy of the above.
A couple of months ago, I separated from my wife and have been looking for a long term, non-bargirl, replacement; I'm still waiting for my first date. I pride myself on being able to get any bargirl. Hottie, cherry or otherwise. But regular girls are quite a different story. Province girls are not difficult, and you also have the internet sites (but all the meetups I've had through the internet have been bargirl types).
I think the biggest problem is that over the years I've grown accustomed to particularly hot Filipina's. In Angeles, for example, I would say that only about 1 in 200 girls meet my standards for a ladies drink, and maybe one in four of those make the grade for a barfine. Out in the real world, regular girls at that level are just out of my league, and I'm just not one to settle.
Fortunately, if I spend the rest of my days banging another couple of thousand bargirls, I will certainly have no complaints.
Haha. Classic case of pussy goggles, if you stay in the PI for over a week, you lose any objectivity and think every girl wants to boink you, regardless of how old or physical appearance. Isn't that why we love the PI. Haha. I try to limit my stays to less than 1 week cause it becomes a rude awakening when I come back to the States.
I have only spent a few days in Manila, but it seemed to me that its one of the easiest places on the planet to get laid. I found that every tourist shop I went to had a salesgirl, and that they were all clearly interested in going out with me. I went to the Hard Rock Cafe, and the waitresses were overly friendly and clearly up for an invite (it was a Tuesday night, and the place was empty so we could talk a little). And, when I went to buy a cell phone, the salesgirl was also overly friendly. In short, whenever I came upon a pretty girl whom I liked, the girl seemed ready to go out with me. However, I did not go out with any of these girls, because I was too busy with a girl I met on DIA whom I had invited to Manila from another city (I cannot remember where it was, but the bus ticket I purchased was not expensive). She and I were horizontal within 5 minutes of meeting each other.
Before my DIA girl showed up, I went for a few massages, and arranged for one of the girls to come back to my hotel. My masseuse, who had done a BBBJTCIM (but refused intercourse) , wanted to fuck me without a condom within minutes of showing up.
I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed my experience in Manila! I am in my sixth decade of life, but I doubt that was helpful for me. I think a younger man, as long as he is not a teenager, could choose nearly any unmarried girl to date. Most of them, I am certain, would sleep with a younger American or European guy. Every store, restaurant, bar and shopping mall would be fertile hunting grounds. It is hard to imagine you will go a day without a non pro if you try just a little bit. And, if you try to line up some girls in advance via DIA, you can be guaranteed success.
Keep in mind, non-pros are NOT free. They just don't negotiate up front. In the end, if you play the dating game, they are far more expensive than working girls.
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Member #4643
04-30-11, 11:22
It is interesting that you said "seemed to me" and."clearly interested." " up for an invite." "Seemed ready to go out with me." but you never actually specifically asked them. Despite your impression you might be surprised if you started actually hitting on these girls......I realize that not every girl would have gone out with me, but I don't get these vibes in the USA or Europe. Let's say that 10% of the pretty young girls would have gone out with me- that would be extraordinary by my standards. I am in my mid 50s, and even though I am decent looking and in good shape, the women I meet during the course of a regular day in the USA would look at me as if I were crazy.
Of course, I wouldn't expect sex on the first date. Its clearly possible, but non-pros all over the world are reluctant to do this. I don't know the PI well, but experience elsewhere tells me that regular PI girls need the cover of legitimacy before the first sexual experience.
Unlike me, Jbizzy979 is young, good looking and in decent shape. I think he would do better than I as long as he has the nerve to ask the ladies out on a date.
I have one other experience with the PI girls: I once pretended to be in Makati City and invited ten DIA girls over to my hotel to shoot "sexy photos". Three of the 10 girls were willing to come over that evening. These girls may not be "non-pros", but they are also not straight forward working girls. Jbizzy979 can certainly count on lots of success as long on DIA or in the shopping mall as long as he is not afraid to ask.
By the way, as you have lived in PI for so long, where would you go to pick up regular girls?
I realize that not every girl would have gone out with me, but I don't get these vibes in the USA or Europe.Hence, pussy goggles, the vibes are the definition of it. You don't get it in the States or Europe but very prevalent in the PI. Where else can a 50+ year old guy get the vibe that an 18-25 year old hottie wants them. In my opinion, the only easy way to meet regular girls is if you get introduced by a local friend, but that brings with it, its own set of problems. Haha.
For a short time stay, just hit up the malls, especially if you are young, you don't need to be good looking or anything.
WestCoast1
04-30-11, 17:02
Caryn. So the next morning at late breakfast, she did it again. We're eating, and she didn't bother asking if I wanted a repeat, she just offered another gal:
Her: what kind you want? I bring different girl. This one not so pretty for you.
Me: no. She's cute. Don't say that.
Her: tell me what you want.
Me: your serious? Any, same. 20-30.
Her: ok I have negro big boobs. Also skinny girl small boobs. Also I have fat one hahaha.
Me: ah you decide for me. Just make sure always they are good to my camera.
Her: ok.
Now, at the time, in your mind, you're thinking that this kind of thing is from a dream. But then you remember where you are. Viva pinas!
So at 8pm she shows again, this time with a girl a foot taller than her. Very dark skin, she looked black. Great figure, big rack. 28. But a face that could be left at home (one eye higher than the other, one cheekbone protruding farther (asymmetry) , teeth pointing to all compass directions, but a huge smile). The new gal was in love with taking pictures of the energizer bunny performing. Another wow evening and morning. But she was killing me, exhausting me. The next morning at breakfast:
Her: what you want tonight.
Me: OMG I need a night off please!
Her: hahaha ok. You need a rest hahaha.
Me: yes. And thank you so much.
Her: you want I come tomorrow night.
Me: yes. Wonderful.
Her: what you want. I bring.
Me: if you are serious, I would like older.
Her: what age
Me: ah. 40-50?
Her: yes I have. You want chubby big boobs like this one? [she reached over and grabbed the other gal's left boob and squeezed it, in front of everyone] Or you want skinny pretty.
Me: shhh! Skinny is fine.
Her: ok I have. I will see if she can go then.
And that's what happened. Over the next few evenings she brought the older gal (age 48, attractive) , and a neighbor's daughter. There was trouble with the neighbor's daughter, I will explain later.
Me: ah you decide for me. Just make sure always they are good to my camera.
The new gal was in love with taking pictures of the energizer bunny performing. I am completely wrapped up in this story. But since you mentioned pictures. Where the f___ are they?
friday night was good.
i am getting along fairly well with my girl. i had broached the subject of 3. some with her before. i asked her to find someone that she knows and feels comfortable with to try it. well she mentions her friend that she grew up with, from 1st grade all the way up to high school.
she says her friend is open minded, and also needs a little assistance as she is a single mom. she is also 25 the same age as my girl. but she also said they had never tried it and would be good to get her a little drunk first. at this point i think my girl is open to most anything. my girl is showing a lot of get up and go sexually, her bj skills seem to have improved overnight. ha ha.
anyway we set it up so her friend can go out with us, and spend the night with us at the hotel friday.
i send my girl to go and get her friend. they show up a few hours later. well her friend is a little chunky but still very cute. but one thing, she must be one of the most shy girls i have ever met. when i would joke around with her directly she would just smile and cover her face with her hands. it was cute and funny to watch her reaction. a really sweet girl.
we go out to eat, and then to hard rock cafe. as local popular band is playing, 'freestyle'. the band was good, and the lead singer was hot. both of my girls are local, maybe 20 to 30 minutes from my hotel. when they see that 'freestyle' is playing they are overjoyed. because they simply don't have the money to do things like this.
well we have some margaritas and some red horse. and enjoy the show.
back to the hotel room. i have plenty of red horse in my room and by this time the friend is drinking like crazy. there are 2 beds in the room a double and a single. everybody changes and gets comfortable, and the friend goes to the single bed. so i say 'lets all go on the same bed' with me in the middle of course. the girls are feeling good now with all the drinks.
my girl tells her friend to take off her bra to be more comfy. i am in the middle and start making out with the friend, kissing her, kissing her tits. then i move to my girl and start stripping her top and shorts off. i then start licking my girls clit in front of the friend. the friend is watching with much interest.
i move over to the friend and start stripping her shorts and shirt off. of course she is in hurry to get them off too. i start licking her clit, and she is loving it. i move from the friend and back to my girl trying to work them up.
well i break out the 3 speed pocket rocket. i lick the friends clit and use the pocket rocket on my girl. my girl says it feels like 100 tongues. ha ha. i grab their hands and put them together so they are holding hands. a nice scene. best friends holding hands naked.
if i were little younger and less drunk, maybe i would have been able to manipulate the rocket and continue performing oral on the friend. but i just turned the rocket over to my girl's hands. and she would not let it go.
anyway now it's my turn, they both give me some nice sloppy bj, taking turns. i finish with the friend in the mish. all in all a great night. we all sleep late.
kork
Snow Koala
05-01-11, 14:09
Haha. Classic case of pussy goggles, if you stay in the PI for over a week, you lose any objectivity and think every girl wants to boink you, regardless of how old or physical appearance. Isn't that why we love the PI. Haha. I try to limit my stays to less than 1 week cause it becomes a rude awakening when I come back to the States.I live here in Manila and I took one of my overseas work colleagues to my favourite bar. Within minutes 4 girls were swarming all over us. He is a very very straight guy and was not expecting it. After an hour we walked out and we saw non-bar girls walking down the street and he said "Gee, it is hard not to look at every girl in the street are like those girls in the bar".
Snow Koala
05-01-11, 14:21
With about 1, 000 bargirls under my belt, maybe 20 girls of unknown origin, and no confirmed regular girls, I can attest to the accuracy of the above.
A couple of months ago, I separated from my wife and have been looking for a long term, non-bargirl, replacement; I'm still waiting for my first date. I pride myself on being able to get any bargirl. Hottie, cherry or otherwise. But regular girls are quite a different story. Province girls are not difficult, and you also have the internet sites (but all the meetups I've had through the internet have been bargirl types).
I think the biggest problem is that over the years I've grown accustomed to particularly hot Filipina's. In Angeles, for example, I would say that only about 1 in 200 girls meet my standards for a ladies drink, and maybe one in four of those make the grade for a barfine. Out in the real world, regular girls at that level are just out of my league, and I'm just not one to settle.
Fortunately, if I spend the rest of my days banging another couple of thousand bargirls, I will certainly have no complaints. I have come to the conclusion that bi-sexaul girls and the best for gf. There are hard to find and so far I have only found 4-5 that are truly bi and not jealous. I now have a Filipina gf that calls herself "bi-adventurous" and we have had around 40 girls many of them more than once. 4somes are out favourite where we pick up 2 girls that are friends and go and have fun with them. I have also had many others with her blessing where she just watches or uses the video camera and does not join in. My gf has even has had 3 regular gfs which is fine with me. This one is a keeper.
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05-01-11, 14:29
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Share Xprience
05-01-11, 19:25
Had a excellentday with Oliver, I had got her number from a friend in havana, greenbelt. She called me to hotel inswagan and agreed for * for 3 hours.
We met she told me to take shower and brush, I told I took few hours back but she insited. She was a tall spanish-Filipino mix really hot, tall and smooth skins, with medium boobs.
She made me comfortable and session started. While fuckin her she cummed soon and wanted me to masturbate off as she is tired but I forced her to continue fuckin her. Till I had a good release.
She was real high and wanted to smooch her and usin her tongue over my face and neck. It was a little hot.
Thenwe chatted and we sleptand talked for 1 hour, both of us were tired, so she was not much wiling to have second round. I told will see her latter.
The room was real good and didn't feel cheap here. Was an overall good experience. I can share this number.
She told she knows a Russian and iranian. Have any of you done them and is using tongue a bad thing.
Pics soon.
Share Xprience
05-01-11, 19:26
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Chocha Monger
05-02-11, 03:38
she made me comfortable and session started. while fuckin her she cummed soon and wanted me to masturbate off as she is tired but i forced her to continue fuckin her. till i had a good release.you forced her to finish fucking you? do you know what you're saying? this is your second post that sounds like a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).
LoveAsianWhores
05-02-11, 06:03
you forced her to finish fucking you? do you know what you're saying? this is your second post that sounds like a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).about 20% of the bargirls i have had complain that they are tired and want to stop after 5 minutes, but i continue to fuck them. i guess i have raped about 200 girls. but funny how they all text me the next day and want to see me again.
Got in last night and made my way to EDSA. Bought a mamasan a drink and had a chat. Bar fine was 1600 (same in all the places there) and the girls want 2500 or 3000 short time.
The mamasan had been ther since the place first opened (she said) 15 years ago. We talked sbout how things hve changed since I first went there 12 years ago. There was no short ime then and nobody talked about money before.
There were some cute girls, but the mama said that the Japanese come in early at around 7:30 and point and click. They take the ones they like in waves. She said that some of the more enterprising come back to be bar fined again, so if you are wanting fresh, think twice.
The selection was not great, and many of the girls would not look out of place in Angeles, where I was 6 weeks ago. A lot of MILFs, although I got one who had no kids. 25 and a very nice body. I gave her 3, 000 plus 100 taxi for an early morning departure. She wanted more, but I told her that was about right.
This morning, I sat in Starbucks at Greenbelt 3 and watched the coming and going for a while. Amazing at how slow the line moves. Filipinos seem to have a lot of trouble with the selection, order and settlement process. Not just there but everywhere you need to line up. Jollibee, the ATM, McDonalds, etc. People really do not have a clue what is going on. In the mall, be on your guard for overweight representatives of the middle class, weaving at a snail's pace as they text. Welcome back to the Philippines.
Intend to check out Burgos and Havana later in the week. I may go back to EDSA early and see if the selection is a bit more inspiring. This week is Japanese holidays so the competition may be tough and I will probably have to pull the trigger fast. I don't need to be the first, but I would like to be the first of the day.
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This morning, I sat in Starbucks at Greenbelt 3 and watched the coming and going for a while. Amazing at how slow the line moves. Filipinos seem to have a lot of trouble with the selection, order and settlement process. Not just there but everywhere you need to line up. Jollibee, the ATM, McDonalds, etc. People really do not have a clue what is going on. In the mall, be on your guard for overweight representatives of the middle class, weaving at a snail's pace as they text. Welcome back to the Philippines. Great perceptive comment Biz. Indeed, welcome (back) to the Philippines.
You are so right about filipinos not thinking ahead and being struck dumb by the enormity of the decision they are about to make.
Just this morning I stood in an ATM line. 2 people ahead of me. I had my card in my hand ready to go. The first guy in the line stepped up to the ATM, unbuttoned his hip pocket, took out his wallet, searched for his card, inserted it etc and then after checking his balance on the machine slip he had to resubmit the card so he could withdraw cash. Then, he stood at the machine for a good 20 seconds reading the machine slip before getting out of the way.
The woman in front of me did exactly the same thing. Walked up to the machine and THEN opened her bag, rummaged around for her wallet to find her card etc etc etc. Same scenario.
I am always dumbfounded by the people who will stand patiently waiting in line in a coffee shop for a good 5 minutes before getting to the shop assistant and THEN deciding hmmmmmm what will I have today? Will I have a snack?
WTF were they thinking about while they shuffled forward in the line?
It really is a pain in the ass to wait for these drones. But hey! I still live here and try to chill out but when you are busy and in a hurry seems to be exactly the time when these people get in front of me.
Share Xprience
05-02-11, 10:28
you forced her to finish fucking you? do you know what you're saying? this is your second post that sounds like a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).force verbally to agree on, it doesn; t mean [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). these escorts hav lots of excuses. i rather persuaded. wrng use of word pal.
She made me comfortable and session started. While fuckin her she cummed soon and wanted me to masturbate off as she is tired but I forced her to continue fuckin her. Till I had a good release. Pics soon.
I am not one normally to take the moral high ground but I have to agree with CM's observations about you. I read back on one of your recent posts in the Bombay section where you seemed to take great delight in brutalizing a girl who had the misfortune to meet you. That particular report made my stomach turn with revulsion and I am reporting it to Jackson as I think you are exactly the kind of person that we don't want on this site and one that gives other mongers a bad name. Below is an excerpt from your post that I am referring to.....
Originally Posted by Share Xprience
At first it seemed ok for her but as my thrusts grew in vigor, it pained her unbearably. Her painful groans grew louder and she urgently whispered me to retract. But I am brute when aroused and was in no mood to retract without success. In fact her pain made me grow more nasty and determined to persist. I clasped her hair and pulled it back, bit on her neck hard and with one hand to manage her arse started thumping my dick in and out her arse. After another 10 minutes, I decided to cum as it was past 5:30 am and the hotel staff would have woken up.I cummed with full glory in her arse as I wasn't wearing a condom for all the activities through the night till dawn. Finally I made her again lick all the remaining semen on my dick. She had tears in her eyes due to the pain, but who cares anyways? She was a * and this is her job, isn't it? . I threw her clothes at her telling her to dress up quickly.
LoveAsianWhores
05-02-11, 13:30
I am not one normally to take the moral high ground but I have to agree with CM's observations about you. I read back on one of your recent posts in the Bombay section where you seemed to take great delight in brutalizing a girl who had the misfortune to meet you. That particular report made my stomach turn with revulsion and I am reporting it to Jackson as I think you are exactly the kind of person that we don't want on this site and one that gives other mongers a bad name. Below is an excerpt from your post that I am referring to.
Originally Posted by Share Xprience.
At first it seemed ok for her but as my thrusts grew in vigor, it pained her unbearably. Her painful groans grew louder and she urgently whispered me to retract. But I am brute when aroused and was in no mood to retract without success. In fact her pain made me grow more nasty and determined to persist. I clasped her hair and pulled it back, bit on her neck hard and with one hand to manage her arse started thumping my dick in and out her arse. After another 10 minutes, I decided to cum as it was past 5:30 am and the hotel staff would have woken up. I cummed with full glory in her arse as I wasn't wearing a condom for all the activities through the night till dawn. Finally I made her again lick all the remaining semen on my dick. She had tears in her eyes due to the pain, but who cares anyways? She was a * and this is her job, isn't it? . I threw her clothes at her telling her to dress up quickly.In my previous post, I was defending this guy. After reading the above, I retract that post.
Soapy Smith
05-02-11, 16:05
tall girl rode to her first climax and was soaking wet. i rolled her off and grabbed the whiner. as she tried to beg off i threw her ass in the hucklebuck and started pounding her cervix with devastating effect. the look on her face was priceless. her partner rubbed and sucked her tits, and dfked her in an attempt to ease her suffering and muffle the shrieks of pure agony and bacchanal now reverberating throughout the room and into the hallway. she came in spite of herself gasping like a fish. i tossed her ass aside like a wet towel. i seized the tall chick bent her over and rammed balls deep into her womb like a runaway bunker buster as she let out a loud yelp. i was forged and hardened steel fresh out of sex prison riding her hard with reckless abandon. i grabbed her wet slippery shoulders and thrust hard running her through to the hilt. i climbed up placing both feet on the bed so i could direct my momentum forward and down into her guts. the whiner's mouth was agape with astonishment! i looked over at the reflection in the mirror and it looked like a really mean rottweiler pounding a chihuahua. i nearly lost my composure at the amusing scene.
tall girl moaned and whimpered as i blew her back out yet again. before she could collapse i quickly dropped to my knees and rotated her without withdrawing as though she was a rotisserie chicken. smooth quick execution had her ass back in the hucklebuck getting donkey punched in the cervix. sometimes shit gets lost in translation in the heat of the action with hilarious results. she hollered, 'aray ko! aray ko! ' so, i pounded her pussy even harder and mercilessly because it sounded like 'que rico! que rico! ' in spanish the latter expression is one of pleasure. the former in tagalog is an expression of pain. she came again her pussy gushing blood and tapped out like a ufc fighter under submission. i released her. she popped up and dashed to the comfort room to nurse her battered pussy.
shorty knew what was in store for her and cursed her girl for tapping out of the fight leaving her to fend for herself. she whined about why i was so abnormal and wouldn't bust a nut. i told her that her friend's pussy was more 'sarap' but i was saving the nut for her because complained too much and didn't pull her weight. then i bent her ass up into a pretzel and proceeded to beat my cockhead against her uterine walls like an escaped convict from adx, colorado. i pushed her knees behind her ears and rammed away as though i were trying to stuff my nuts inside of her hole along with the pole. beads of sweat covered her face and the rivulets of sweat from my face and chest dripped into her eyes stinging them. i felt my load rising and cresting. she could feel it too as my cock became more swollen and hardened stretching her tight hole. she bawled as the blast of hot jizz blasted directly into her cervix and my full weight collapsed on her.
i made them clean up the room and took a shower with them. then i got dressed, sat on the clean bed and lit up a cohiba esplendido. i took a deep satisfying draft savoring the enhanced post-coital flavor and closed my eyes. the whiner's voice broke my meditation. she wanted to break my pockets. i turned to her slowly opening my eyes, reaching into my pocket i tossed a two hundred peso note at her for cab fare. she started griping peevishly. i exhaled a cloud of smoke and motioned in the direction of the door with my smoldering cohiba and told her to get the fuck out. they made their way out with the whiner retorting about how much she hated me. i heard them make their way down the hallway and a few minutes later the front desk called to inform me that my guests were departing.
i would have been very generous with the tall girl. she performed like a champ. i wished that i had taken her alone. however, i needed to teach the whiner a lesson and i wasn't about to take the chance of the star performer sharing any bonuses with her. hopefully, the tall one would think twice about going as a team with her in the future. it also goes to show that you can't put too much stock in 'chemistry' and sometimes the shy silent ones deliver award winning performances while the gregarious ones fake chemistry just to get out the bar thinking it will be quick and easy. had i taken the whiner alone i'the have been royally pissed! i agree with the assessment of shareex's posts, but it seems that what constitutes [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is a matter of judgment. would it have been okay if share had merely offered cab fare of 200 pesos? but as one of those aging mongers who brings women to climax first through oral pleasure and then whispers sweet nothings in their ears during the main act, i could be biased.
Screaming Beaver
05-04-11, 00:25
i agree with the assessment of shareex's posts, but it seems that what constitutes [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) is a matter of judgment. would it have been okay if share had merely offered cab fare of 200 pesos?i agree. sharex should have given her 200 pesos.
i agree. sharex should have given her 200 pesos.its not a matter of judgment. its a matter of law. if you want to have 12 people pass judgment on you, then pay me my usual fee of $25, 000. 00 on a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) case and let those 12 people pass judgment. you will be shitting your pants. jackson, something has to happen with that guy. you do not want people like him on this board.
i have said these words in jest before but now i say them seriously. trust me, i'm a lawyer. get rid of that guy asap<
Screaming Beaver
05-04-11, 01:41
Jackson, something has to happen with that guy.Happen to what guy? What should happen to him?
Trust me, I'm a lawyer.Trust a lawyer? You are joking, right?
Chocha Monger
05-04-11, 02:28
I agree. ShareX should have given her 200 pesos.Yes. He should have handled it by giving her 200 pesos. It is a more humane way of addressing the situation while not getting fleeced at the same time.
GoodEnough
05-04-11, 11:21
Hasn't it occurred to anyone but me that this guy is just indulging in his own dark fantasies bred out of his own sense of weakness? : that he's never even been to the Philippines or anywhere else? That he's writing fiction and thereby trying to give himself a false sense of empowerment? That is is, in other words, delusional but not acting on his delusions?
GE
FreebieFan
05-04-11, 11:23
Had another Manila weekkend which as always left me exhausted. Hopefully I can recall some if not all the details.
Arrived at 4am (yes no typo) and bed by 4. 30am. I had set myself a mad sched of 4 girls for my first day but thankfully it worked out ok.
By 10am I'm outside Heritage hotel to meet number 1. A girl I've been chatting with from Baguio who was in Manila via Boracay. She was on time and looked good with tall brown legs and trainers and tube top. She had a small stale sweat smell but it was a hot day. I meant to go to Sogo near Heritage but was exploring her shorts and missed the turn. We went to Eurototel in Pasay road instead. A standard shag altho the highlight was the girl was highly interested in my vibrating toys (saved me some energy this way LOL) , and I have one astonishing pic of the girl with 3 vibrators inserted in her. Dropped her after 2. 5 hours and p1000.
Girl two is a helper working in HK. She always had a sexy pic in DIA of her in a bra but she was very shy in chat and wary of players. She was on vacation in Manila and going back to HK next week. My plan was that we would have a short meeting, so I could get to number 3 for a longer session. Luckily number 3 had some drama with her son so we reaaranged. I was happy we did.
Number 2 met me near Dusit Hotel and was just like her pic, but happy and quite keen for action. Went to same Eurotel (staff didn't bat an eye when I wanted another short time room) and this girl was passion personified. I've never had a better ball licking that what this gal did. Was amazing. She cried twice, said this her reaction to having an orgasm. She took it up the backside and I will be seeing her in HK. It was well worth a repeat.
As number 3 was cancelled, I rested up before going to meet number 4, who was waiting outside Heritage hotel.
We drive to Fort bonifacio, have some beers and shared some jokes. But I really wasnt sure if she would party. We go to my place, have a kiss, but she says she's really not into sex today (can we have sex next time honey?" she asked) and so I drop her at the nearest taxi rank and have a sleep. I realy wasnt concerned that there was no nighttime nookie. She didn't text me back and I never texted her back. Can't win them all.
Next day did some work then meet an 18 year old in a nearby mall ("Wher are you, I'm here she kept texting." not realising that I had no idea where her " here " was.). We meet up, she's young, we go to my place. I give her something sexy to wear and remark that she has no stretch marks. I thought you said you had a baby on DIA I asked. She said, yes, I'm pregnant. And sure enough there was a little 3 month bump.
I try for a kiss, she says no. I kiss her boobs, she says thats ok. I fiddle in her panties, she says no. I say ok, lets take you back to the mall. I drop her off with P400 so she can take taxi home.
Then I get endless texts asking why I didn't give her more money and why didn't I pay for her bus fare to Batangas so she can see her Aunt. WTF! Eventually before I delete her, I ask her why I should be giving her money. She replies," because you are foreign and rich and I'm pregnant and poor ". I suggested she find the father of her kid to pay her bills.
Ok then off to Alabang where a 19 year old is on a 3 hour trek from darkest Lagunato meet me. She keeps telling me she's on her way and is eager to give her first blow job etc. She tells me her cousin wil meet me in alabang and keep me company till she arrives. I meet the cousin, a 6 at best. We go for a drive. Natural instincts take over and I have a fiddle. She also has a fiddle and I get a 3 minute blow driving round Ayala Alabang. Go back to the mall and miss traveller still not there. I wait one hour and then leave. She appeared after 5 hours asking why I didn't wait. I didn't bother texting her back either.
Late Sunday afternoon the one I'm supposed to meet, a 19 year old repeat from last visit called and said her bag was snatched and she has no money to get to Heritage hotel. I ask her to borrow, she says she's tried. Ok cancel date. I was in Rogues at time and had a fun time sending out texts to see who would be my next target.
In meantime I went to wowowow where a delightful girl, who is 29 and used to work in Landmark 2nd floor did a great job of making me happy.
I left there at 11pm to go have a short sleep as I was about to have an evening adventure. I've been chatting to a teacher for a while who lives in in Taguig. She's married but husband away overseas. We plan to meet at 1am as thats the only time she can run away from home. She's there on time, we dash to my place where she tells me she has 90 minutes free. She's 27 with a kid. Weve been chatting for 3 months but this is our first face to face meeting. It was a get inside the door, torrid kiss and 75 minutes bumping and grinding moment. She has fabulous legs and loved the 5 inch high heels I had bought her. I drop her back near her place at 3aM, then head back to sleep.
New day. I knew this would be a good day as I had a cutie flying in from Cebu. I will post about her in a separate report. Anyways I had a few hours befor she arrived so met with another DIA girl. She's 19 and says she wants help for her studies. Nice simple girl, plays with her hair too much but shy and sweet. We meet, have Starbucks, then head to my place. Its now 11am. We have a kiss and she positions her self so my hand is on her boob. Is she so shy and sweet I wonder. We head for bed, and she tells me she won't give me a blowjob and can she remove her shirt and bra. Sure you can, and panties too. We get down to business and she has great boobs and great muscle tone. Boobs are hard and firm and such a delight. We enjoy for an hour. She doesn't say much but enjoys. I drive her back to the mall and she tells me about her "costs " etc. I give her p1000 and she asks for more. Maybe she wasnt so shy and sweet after all LOL.
I head to airport to meet Ms Cebu, she stays for 24 fabulous hours.
Later that afternoon, the teacher and I met for a last bang and I head back to Taiwan.
I really must stop trying to shag every girl possible and next time will try and only have one girl a day. Well maybe two LOL.
Was a great trip, and all the while I'm there, there was a 19 year old trying to get an appointment, a 23 year old same, and a couple of old friends who were ready and wating. Theres just never enough time. . And thankfully this trip only one inane texter telling me to " don't forget your lunch / dinner / snack " nonsense.
FreebieFan
05-04-11, 11:27
Great perceptive comment Biz. Indeed, welcome (back) to the Philippines.
You are so right about filipinos not thinking ahead and being struck dumb by the enormity of the decision they are about to make.
Just this morning I stood in an ATM line. 2 people ahead of me. I had my card in my hand ready to go. The first guy in the line stepped up to the ATM, unbuttoned his hip pocket, took out his wallet, searched for his card, inserted it etc and then after checking his balance on the machine slip he had to resubmit the card so he could withdraw cash. Then, he stood at the machine for a good 20 seconds reading the machine slip before getting out of the way.
The woman in front of me did exactly the same thing. Walked up to the machine and THEN opened her bag, rummaged around for her wallet to find her card etc etc etc. Same scenario.
I am always dumbfounded by the people who will stand patiently waiting in line in a coffee shop for a good 5 minutes before getting to the shop assistant and THEN deciding hmmmmmm what will I have today? Will I have a snack?
WTF were they thinking about while they shuffled forward in the line?
It really is a pain in the ass to wait for these drones. But hey! I still live here and try to chill out but when you are busy and in a hurry seems to be exactly the time when these people get in front of me. I was in Market Market at weekend and thought how like chickens some people there are. Husband and wife are walking together when one goes left one goes right then they look at each other. Someone walks onto escalator then tries to back off, not relaising that 20 people are behind them trying to get on the escalators. Bakla stops texting then without looking just starts walking. Right into a crowd of people. Human chickens! And don't even get me started about the women in the supermarket in front of me that buys a chcolate bar and pays for it with her CREDIT CARD!
Hasn't it occurred to anyone but me that this guy is just indulging in his own dark fantasies bred out of his own sense of weakness? : that he's never even been to the Philippines or anywhere else? That he's writing fiction and thereby trying to give himself a false sense of empowerment? That is is, in other words, delusional but not acting on his delusions?
GEBut what does that have to do with sharing of information? If indeed the guy is delusional, he's something beyond a neurotic bastard.
FreebieFan
05-04-11, 13:03
A couple of years ago, when I lived in Malaysia, I travelled often to Jakarta. I mongered a lot there but also had the chance to meet a great 21 year old student. I invited her on a Singapore trip once, which she accepted and from then on she travelled with me on most of my business trips (except to Bangkok LOL). We went to Penang, Kota Kinabalu, Saigon, Bali, Singapore and KL. I really enjoyed having this girl in my hotel room and it also meant I didn't have to go out hunting women on business trips. We lost contact when I moved to Taiwan as paying for a 6 hour flight from Jakarta was out of my league.
Fast forward and last week I saw a DIA gal who looked like her.
I commented that she looked like a ex gf and even tho this girl was in Cebu we had nice chat, and severL subsequent other nice chats. I noted that I was going to manila and after a few more chats she asked " would you like me to go to manila ". She added that she had never been on a plane. Nice 19 year old girl. At that time my schedule was full so that I had no time to take her to Manila so I told her I was working on my schedule and would let her know. She told me she would love to go but understood if she couldn't get the chance.
Re my earlier report, I saw an opening so on the spur of moment I booked airticket for her. Sent her an email with the scanned copy. Total excitement and gratitude on her part. I explained what would happen at check in etc, and how it was to be on a plane. She asked smart questions and I knew she would arrive.
Fast forward and I'm waiting at Cebu Pacific terminal. She was lovely. Huge smile and really happy girl. One small bag as requested. We go to my place and she's looking out the car window, really drinking in being some where else.
Get to my place. And first kiss turns into first bonk. She keeps laughing and I can't figure out why. Post bonk, she tells me tHat having an orgasm makes her laugh. Never saw that before but there you go. I had bought a few clothes for her to model for me, and she's into it. She looks 16 not 19 so when she put the schoolgirl outfit on we made some hot pics." Honey, can you just show the edge of your panties." Yes I Can ". Honey can you undo another button to expose the outline of your breast " Yes she smiles I can ". She would do anything I asked and everything.
She said it was time she tried new things. She knows she lives in a small place so she said she wanted new experience. She also told me very early on, that aside from me helping with her taxi fare she didn't want any of my money " I'm here for the experience of being with you ". Wow. I'm liking her already.
I asked her why she's been with me for an hour and hasnt sent a text. She tells me she hasnt told her friends she's in Manila as they would just disturb her with texts. I'm liking her more and more.
As part of her new experience I asked her if she's ever been shaved. She said " no, can you do it for me please ". I did.
I asked her if she has ever seen a vibrating toy. She hadn't. She experienced one and said " Wow I like it soo much ".
We go out to Handlebar near Burgos. An old flame was there but thankfully she didn't do anything other than smile approvingly of my new date. My girl had fabulous legs and with the help of a short skirt, she looked great. My camera stayed busy.
We had more drinks and food in Bonifacio high street. She told me she doesn't like to eat rice except at breakfast. More plus points. She told me she's glad I didn't buy her any chocolates. We get to my place and sit on balcony having drinks. Its late and most other nearby apartments balconies all look dark. So I position a chair in balcony corner, remove her dress (she had no panties, as part of her " new experience") and give her a good licking. We switch positions and she gives me a nice blow. More first experiences.
Next morning we have good bonk and fun breakfast. Eventually I take her back to airport.
She has no passport so I gave her P1500 which is fee to get a Philippines passport in 25 days. We will see what happens. But if she can get a passport I can see me with this fabulous hottie in HK, Singapore and a few other places I travel to. Freebie was quite smitten.
Radical Guy
05-04-11, 19:47
its not a matter of judgment. its a matter of law. if you want to have 12 people pass judgment on you, then pay me my usual fee of $25, 000. 00 on a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) case and let those 12 people pass judgment. you will be shitting your pants. jackson, something has to happen with that guy. you do not want people like him on this board.
i have said these words in jest before but now i say them seriously. trust me, i'm a lawyer. get rid of that guy asap<i'm a lawyer too, and i'm sure you will agree with me that no prosecutor in his or her right mind would ever attempt to bring such a case to trial, i mean, some p4p girl alleging "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)" based on someone allegedly not stopping during the paid-for act. of course, if the person is stupid enough to give a detailed confession, a prosecution might be viable.
in any event, i agree that jackson should not be allowing people to post such accounts, because it implies that this board sanctions this conduct.
rg
A couple of years ago, when I lived in Malaysia, I travelled often to Jakarta. I mongered a lot there but also had the chance to meet a great 21 year old student. I invited her on a Singapore trip once, which she accepted and from then on she travelled with me on most of my business trips (except to Bangkok LOL). We went to Penang, Kota Kinabalu, Saigon, Bali, Singapore and KL. I really enjoyed having this girl in my hotel room and it also meant I didn't have to go out hunting women on business trips. We lost contact when I moved to Taiwan as paying for a 6 hour flight from Jakarta was out of my league.Why don't you just have a girl like this come and live with you in Taiwan? I have been dreaming of this since I first discovered Asia. Since I live in the US it is impossible to get a visa without marrying her.
FreebieFan
05-05-11, 02:07
Why don't you just have a girl like this come and live with you in Taiwan? I have been dreaming of this since I first discovered Asia. Since I live in the US it is impossible to get a visa without marrying her.Two reasons, primarily the fact that I'm already married and I'm not sure wife would approve of a "mia noi ". Thai word for a second wife.
Second, Taiwan aint giving visa to 19 year olds no matter how cute they are.
Siam Dreamer
05-05-11, 03:00
But if she can get a passport I can see me with this fabulous hottie in HK, Singapore and a few other places I travel to. Freebie was quite smitten.Great work. Stay thirsty.
I was in Market Market at weekend and thought how like chickens some people there are. Husband and wife are walking together when one goes left one goes right then they look at each other. Someone walks onto escalator then tries to back off, not relaising that 20 people are behind them trying to get on the escalators. Bakla stops texting then without looking just starts walking. Right into a crowd of people. Human chickens! And don't even get me started about the women in the supermarket in front of me that buys a chcolate bar and pays for it with her CREDIT CARD!I can picture that scene and have lived something similar a few times this week! Makes me fall down laughing some times to see the human collisions.
In the other part of my post, I was talking about going back to EDSA, only earlier for better selection. I made it there on Wednesday before 7:30 and the selection was indeed much better. In the first place I visited, there was a girl pushing me to sit with her, anad normally I avoid that when just entering the bar.
On this occasion I fortunately broke my own rule and sat with her. 20 minutes later I was walking out with her on my arm. She was one of that small percentage that look much better outside of the bar. Really a pretty girl and a sense of style. 23, no kids, Quezon City bred.
In all, a very good night (bar fine 1600 again. 4000 to the girl without negotiation, no mention of short time at any point).
Tonight I am going to "someplace different" with one of the taxi drivers I used this morning. We shall see, and normally I do not do that either, but sometimes breaking your own rules pays off. If there is something to report, I will, otherwise it is Burgos tonight.
Every some place different, taken to me by a taxi driver is always a "casa", you walk into a non-descript building with girls in it and you pick one, there was a huge one, now I forgot the name, but I walked in and there were like 40 girls in there, KTV style. The cabbies get a cut for taking you there.
Tonight I am going to "someplace different" with one of the taxi drivers I used this morning. We shall see, and normally I do not do that either, but sometimes breaking your own rules pays off. If there is something to report, I will, otherwise it is Burgos tonight.
Cunning Stunt
05-05-11, 13:57
Great perceptive comment Biz. Indeed, welcome (back) to the Philippines.
You are so right about filipinos not thinking ahead and being struck dumb by the enormity of the decision they are about to make.
Just this morning I stood in an ATM line. 2 people ahead of me. I had my card in my hand ready to go. The first guy in the line stepped up to the ATM, unbuttoned his hip pocket, took out his wallet, searched for his card, inserted it etc and then after checking his balance on the machine slip he had to resubmit the card so he could withdraw cash. Then, he stood at the machine for a good 20 seconds reading the machine slip before getting out of the way.
The woman in front of me did exactly the same thing. Walked up to the machine and THEN opened her bag, rummaged around for her wallet to find her card etc etc etc. Same scenario.
I am always dumbfounded by the people who will stand patiently waiting in line in a coffee shop for a good 5 minutes before getting to the shop assistant and THEN deciding hmmmmmm what will I have today? Will I have a snack?
WTF were they thinking about while they shuffled forward in the line?
It really is a pain in the ass to wait for these drones. But hey! I still live here and try to chill out but when you are busy and in a hurry seems to be exactly the time when these people get in front of me. Hahaha. I really laughed when I read this. You and I ought to get together RK and become founder members of the Philippine branch of 'Grumpy Old Geezers'.
I have always failed to understand why most Filipinos (particularly women) take so long at an ATM machine. Sometimes I think they do it on purpose because they know it will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the Kano behind them. They dilly and dally and feed their cards in 3-4 times and count and recount their money. And all this usually takes place outside in temperatures of 90+ and 100% humidity when any sane person would want to transact their business as quickly as possible and run.
Have you also noticed how, after waiting ages to get to the head of a queue, some idiot will distract the tellers attention with a stupid query, usually without even a 'by your leave', expecting you to wait another 5 minutes whilst they are dealt with.
...Or how some women will invariably stop at the top of an escalator to read/reply to a text message.
Oh fuck, you have really got me started:D.
FreebieFan
05-05-11, 14:12
Hahaha.
Have you also noticed how, after waiting ages to get to the head of a queue, some idiot will distract the tellers attention with a stupid query, usually without even a 'by your leave', expecting you to wait another 5 minutes whilst they are dealt with.
Or how some women will invariably stop at the top of an escalator to read / reply to a text message.
Oh fuck, you have really got me started.The Cebu Pacific check in counter can also be an excercise in brainlessness. I guess they don't pay much so who they employ tend to be brainless. I was in a line (queue) of 5 people the other day. It took 40 minutes to check the 5 people in, not because anyone had any weird travelling schedule or special baggage needs. No, the 3 brainless trainees who were tasked with inputting date (encoding) kept interrupting the check in girl to ask a question, share a joke, ask if their bum looked big etc. When it got to my turn (being a Grumpy Old Geezer founder member) I asked if they were having problems. She breezily replied " no, everything is normal ". I replied that if Cathay Pacific staff took 40 minutes to check in a line of 5 people, its probable their planes would never take off on time.
The reply was the classic " Sir, its different in the Philippines ". . Sure honey, and you wonder why theres no Tourism industry.
Good morning all. I am hoping someone can give me some guidance. I used to spend quite a bit of time in PI, but have not been there in almost three years. I am headed back in a few weeks and just wondering how much has changed. I used to always stay in Makati so I had quite a bit of luck with high quality at Havana, Hard Rock and non-pros just walking around. The price was always high in that area, but quality was excellent. I had the most fun though at MBC. Any new hot spots I should know about? Is MBC still the best bet?
Thanks in advance for the feedback!
filipinas at atms: you guys neglected to mention that 50% of them act like they have never used an atm before; not sure which way to insert the card, trying to read the instructions etc. except in makati, time is just not so precious as in the wasteland so wee are moving at wasteland speed when in the pi everything moves more slowly. it used to upset me but you cannot change it so you just must learn to deal with it.
no visa is required to take filipina to taiwan which is part of asean (30 days tourist visa granted automatically upon arrival). that said, trying to send them out alone is very risky as many younger girls get barred from their flight as suspected victims of illegal recruitment (for employment overseas). better to accompany them out of pi, no problem for them returning alone.
FreebieFan
05-06-11, 03:59
No visa is required to take Filipina to Taiwan which is part of ASEAN (30 days tourist visa granted automatically upon arrival). That said, trying to send them out alone is very risky as many younger girls get barred from their flight as suspected victims of illegal recruitment (for employment overseas). Better to accompany them out of PI, no problem for them returning alone.Not going to get into an argument here, but visa is most specifically required. I have taken two ladies to Taiwan in past few months and both have had to go to Taiwan Cultural office in Makati, show bank acount, show proof of income with employment letter and proof of ticket, and only then been issued with a visa. Wish there was no visa requirement, but there is. No visa in passport and you won't get past the outgoing airport.
Econo Tech
05-06-11, 04:20
No visa is required to take Filipina to Taiwan which is part of ASEAN (30 days tourist visa granted automatically upon arrival). That said, trying to send them out alone is very risky as many younger girls get barred from their flight as suspected victims of illegal recruitment (for employment overseas). Better to accompany them out of PI, no problem for them returning alone.Taiwan is part of ASEAN? Since when?
Soapy Smith
05-06-11, 06:24
Hahaha. I really laughed when I read this. You and I ought to get together RK and become founder members of the Philippine branch of 'Grumpy Old Geezers'.My favorite, and I've probably posted about it before, are the signs at queues at store counters, government offices, and the like, that say "fall in line." Do you mean, get in line but fall down? I assume they mean they want customers to form a line and get waited on in order. So "fall in line" obviously isn't common English usage -- except maybe in the military. I've asked older Filipinos for their recollection of where the expression came from. Nobody remembers. So I've always assumed it may have rubbed off from the influence of US military occupying the country after WWII. Fall in line is military parlance for "line up, you limp dicks." So I have suggested to some Filipinos that maybe it originated with American military people handing out food or supplies or whatever and simply barking out their own command to Filipinos. I've gotten a few affirmative shrugs and nobody rejecting the explanation.
But the real joke is that in the Philippines a sign that says "fall in line" will invariably be ignored. Just try following those instructions in the back area where medicines are sold in a Mercury Drugs or Watsons drugs, for example. There will be three or four sales clerks taking customers' requests, running down the medicine from the shelves, taking payment to the cashier, and then bringing change and the meds. But the lines get long sometimes, and Filipinos, or more specifically, Filipinas, aren't good at waiting. So it always happens that you're next in line or second in line, and some woman comes around the line to start a new one and angle in on one of the few sales clerks. I presume there's an excuse, like "I was just wondering if you have 'such and such" medicine," or "I can't wait because na-na-na-na-na." And the clerks seem to lack any inclination to tell the line bucker to wait in line like everybody else. So it easily becomes a self-reinforcing dysfunction. Why wait in line when you remember that last time somebody else beat the system by just bucking the line?
It's essentially the same as the principal rule of traffic right-of-way in the Philippines: whoever gets the nose of their vehicle ahead of the other guys has right of way. It's hilarious to watch on EDSA. Four or five lanes painted on the roadway, but nobody follows them. Everybody is switching lanes and maneuvering ahead of the next guy under the false impression that they're going to get to their destination faster. But what happens is that all the lane switching invariably sets up a continuous accordian effect so that everybody is collectively slowed down. I point out to my Filipino friends that the society suffers from a massive "collective action problem," and when I use the EDSA traffic metaphor, they just chuckle in agreement.
But, having acknowledged the mess, I am going to argue that it has its upside: nobody takes things too seriously, like being on time for meetings, for example. And where else can you find such a laid back approach to pay-for-play sex that a short time can run anywhere from two to four hours and, for guys capable of delivering the goods, multiple pops? In the states pay-for-play runs on a 50 minute hour. That means pushing you out after 50 minutes or after the first pop, whichever happens first, to make room for the guy whose appointment starts at the top of the next hour. I can't imagine Europe, where you can set your watch by the train operations, is any different.
GoodEnough
05-06-11, 12:00
I guess it's an "on the one hand, on the other hand" situation. Time, order, rationality, actually thinking in and of itself are not highly-evolved behaviors here, in this place that functions largely on impulse and immediate need gratification. While the general mindlessness of the place has, as Skip has pointed out, its upsides, trying doing business according to any rational model, is surely one of the downsides. Since time has little or no meaning, for example, appointments rarely occur at the appointed hour; since "quality control" is a relatively unknown concept, products produced by subordinates are, to be kind, largely crap. Since inventory management involves the ability to forecast beyond the next five minutes, it's largely non-existent. Thus the time to restock is a few days after you've run out of your most popular product.
All in all, living here is a mixed bag. Expectations are low, so pleasing people is easy but finding good service is a crap shoot. Wages are low, so finding lots of people to throw at a problem is simple. Finding competent people is not. And so it goes, the alpha and omega of life in the Philippines.
GE
Hahaha. I really laughed when I read this. You and I ought to get together RK and become founder members of the Philippine branch of 'Grumpy Old Geezers'.There's a few guys on ISG who could very quickly join the branch of GOGs mate.
I try and try (as I said in my post) to stay cool and just go with the flow because I know I am "pissing into the wind" trying to change very much. Every now and again I take on some challenge and actually get something changed (make a difference) but I pick my challenges carefully.
When I weigh up the' pros' and 'cons', the 'pros' win and hence I choose to live here. I try no to bellyache too much but instead just try to laugh at the incredulity of it all.
I watched one of those TV gag shows on the plane yesterday where people play silly tricks on others and film them using a hidden camera. I couldn't help thinking that a lot of what we see here (CS mentioned a couple) could be straight out of this show (except it is real).
It's all good.
Pussycheck
05-06-11, 15:06
Who has been to Manila / Makati and Angeles City recently and can judge at which of both places you can fuck better looking girls and which of both places girls have the better attitude and performance?
So in terms of:
Girls' appearance and.
Attitude / performance.
Which places are better? Manila / Makati or Angeles City?
About Manila / Makati I think about the bars at P. Burgos street and EDSA Entertainment Complex.
About Angeles City I think about the bars on Fields Ave.
Snow Koala
05-06-11, 15:28
Good morning all. I am hoping someone can give me some guidance. I used to spend quite a bit of time in PI, but have not been there in almost three years. I am headed back in a few weeks and just wondering how much has changed. I used to always stay in Makati so I had quite a bit of luck with high quality at Havana, Hard Rock and non-pros just walking around. The price was always high in that area, but quality was excellent. I had the most fun though at MBC. Any new hot spots I should know about? Is MBC still the best bet?
Thanks in advance for the feedback! Not much has changed in the last 3 years. Flamingos and some other bars owned by the same company in p. Burgos have closed. Lots of freelancers hang out in Starbucks these days in Greenbelt (next to Havanahs) , Starbucks outside Shangra-La and Starbuck in Glorietta 5. Havanahs is still busy.
Irony Monger
05-06-11, 16:10
Who has been to Manila / Makati and Angeles City recently and can judge at which of both places you can fuck better looking girls and which of both places girls have the better attitude and performance?
So in terms of:
Girls' appearance and.
Attitude / performance.
Which places are better? Manila / Makati or Angeles City?
About Manila / Makati I think about the bars at P. Burgos street and EDSA Entertainment Complex.
About Angeles City I think about the bars on Fields Ave. I was in Angeles last December and spend a few days on P. Burgos last week. The selection is certainly better in Angeles just due to sheer numbers, and for the same reason the prices are much better. However, in general I found the attitudes on P. Burgos to be slightly better (more GFE) , but then again they are being paid more and are probably happier about that. I only spent one hour in EDSA on an off night about a year ago, so I don't feel qualified to comment on that spot.
Who has been to Manila / Makati and Angeles City recently and can judge at which of both places you can fuck better looking girls and which of both places girls have the better attitude and performance?
So in terms of:
Girls' appearance and.
Attitude / performance.
Which places are better? Manila / Makati or Angeles City?
About Manila / Makati I think about the bars at P. Burgos street and EDSA Entertainment Complex.
About Angeles City I think about the bars on Fields Ave. What you want is good service from the girl you liked.
Manila girls tend to be prettier and more GFE because you pay the most.
In AC the girls know they do not get top price. Depends on who you get and if the girl likes you you get real GFE.
Pussycheck
05-06-11, 17:15
What you want is good service from the girl you liked.
Manila girls tend to be prettier and more GFE because you pay the most.
In AC the girls know they do not get top price. Depends on who you get and if the girl likes you you get real GFE. So you want to say that in Angeles if a girl likes you or if you pay more you'll get a service like from a girl in Manila / Makati or even a better one?
Irony Monger
05-06-11, 19:06
So you want to say that in Angeles if a girl likes you or if you pay more you'll get a service like from a girl in Manila / Makati or even a better one?I kind of tried this as an experiment once. Tipped an AC girl as if she were a Manila girl then barfined her again the next day to see if there would be any difference in service. To be honest, the service was better the first day before I gave her the big tip. The next day she seemed to be coasting vs. working. However, she has been very persistent sending me YM messages asking when I will come back to AC again, LOL!
Not going to get into an argument here, but visa is most specifically required..Visa needed for common filipinos, correct. But if passport already has a US Visa This requirement will be waived.
Chocha Monger
05-07-11, 00:45
I kind of tried this as an experiment once. Tipped an AC girl as if she were a Manila girl then barfined her again the next day to see if there would be any difference in service. To be honest, the service was better the first day before I gave her the big tip. The next day she seemed to be coasting vs. working. However, she has been very persistent sending me YM messages asking when I will come back to AC again, LOL!It's not unusual for big tips to serve as an incentive for undesired behavior in bar girls. You probably tipped as much as she would have made working the following day. Therefore as far as she was concerned there was no need for her to break her back giving you a good fuck again. Remember in the Philippines easy money just encourages the person providing the service to put forth less effort while raising their expectations for a bigger tip. There is a reason why tipping is not part of their culture. I'm sure all her friends in the bar now think that they can give you a lousy fuck and get a big tip.
GoodEnough
05-07-11, 01:20
Please sign me up. I have several witnesses who will testify to my grumpiness, though unlike my friend RK I'm not at all sure that I want to stay here.
GE.
There's a few guys on ISG who could very quickly join the branch of GOGs mate.
I try and try (as I said in my post) to stay cool and just go with the flow because I know I am "pissing into the wind" trying to change very much. Every now and again I take on some challenge and actually get something changed (make a difference) but I pick my challenges carefully.
When I weigh up the' pros' and 'cons', the 'pros' win and hence I choose to live here. I try no to bellyache too much but instead just try to laugh at the incredulity of it all.
I watched one of those TV gag shows on the plane yesterday where people play silly tricks on others and film them using a hidden camera. I couldn't help thinking that a lot of what we see here (CS mentioned a couple) could be straight out of this show (except it is real).
It's all good.
Chocha Monger
05-07-11, 04:17
green belt 3.
i got to say manila is really great. all the girls are so friendly, and open. all the girls at my hotel are super cute. my girl is staying with me most of the time and is always friendly to the help. she is very cute at 25 and looks younger.
i always ask my girl, which one of these girls attracts you? it's getting to be a fun game with us. at breakfast a really cute and shapely girl served us at our hotel. after eating my girl says "she has a really nice butt" and i said "oh you noticed that too"?
anyway we checked out mall of asia for lunch, and greenbelt for the night fare thursday.
at greenbelt 3 i wanted to see the havanna cafe. we are walking by cafe after cafe and mostly all asian customers. and then i see the sign for havanna cafe, at least 20 western men sitting alone and drinking waiting for something to happen. there also were some tables of girls, and some guys that had already hooked up with a cutie.
after that we stopped at spicy fingers to eat. a really cool place and good food.
back to the hotel. i'm ready for another round. with my young hottie girl it is easy for me to get turned on. i start playing grab ass and licking and sucking her nipples which she loves. at this point in time she is really relaxed and has no problem doing anything i ask.
tonight i am in the mood to lick her clit, after licking her nipples for some time, i tell her to remove her panties. i start licking her clit and kissing her inner thighs," oh i like it" she says. i continue this and she is getting into it. then i start using my finger on her saliva soaked clit, playing it like a guitar. this really gets her going, she starts grabbing my hand and holding it, for me to slow down. later she will tell me "using your finger like that made me want to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)" and then she asked "is that what you call a squirter". yeah thats right, they all watch porn on the net.
then i tell her to give some bj, she is good. licking the balls like i tell her. then i put condom and tell her to get on top. oh man, is she really into it or what. she was totally rocking my world, and trying to do some booty poppin' filipina style, kept this going for a few minutes. then flipped her to mish and pinned her for the finish.
later she tells me i am the first guy that has used condom with her. all her filipino boyfriend never used.
korkkork,
filipinas love being ridden bareback, as a matter of fact, they insist upon it. if a girl considers you her real boyfriend she will settle for nothing less than a good bareback fuck with a cream pie finish. if a girl goes for a covered shag it's because she doesn't really dig you or thinks you might have a disease. even the professionals in ac let their customers ride bareback most of the time. of course, her filipino boyfriends fucked her bareback and cream-pied her pussy. she never requested a condom and they would be insulted if she did.
FF: My bad. Not sure where I got the idea Taiwan was a member of ASEAN. Taking a Filipina to PRC requires a visa, but its just about the fee as no proof of funds or employment nor anything was required to get the visa. At least when I did it back in 1994.
Kork,
Filipinas love being ridden bareback, as a matter of fact, they insist upon it. If a girl considers you her real boyfriend she will settle for nothing less than a good bareback fuck with a cream pie finish. If a girl goes for a covered shag it's because she doesn't really dig you or thinks you might have a disease. Even the professionals in AC let their customers ride bareback most of the time. Of course, her Filipino boyfriends fucked her bareback and cream-pied her pussy. She never requested a condom and they would be insulted if she did. Well Chocha your comments assume (I suppose) that she has some understanding of her menstrual cycle and, more importantly, her "fertile" days.
Your comment that she "Insists upon it (going bareback)" is a bit selective.
Do you give in if she "insists" on leaving early?
Do you agree if she insists on going barhopping?
Are you not fussed if she "insists" on visiting certain bars?
Some of these girls need us to be a bit more supportive of their lack of any appreciation of the possible conseqeunces of our rather selfish motives.
I have found that girls who are half-educated and intelligent and who have attended reproductive health seminars always insist on condoms.
Those of you who have never had a girl mention condoms are obviously targeting the bottom of the gene pool where the idea of contraception (or taking precautions NOT to get pregnant) has never been discussed.
I think the increased awareness of most Thai girls is due to a rigorous education program and campaign against the spread of STDs and especially AIDS. Phils lags a long way behind in this respect.
Snow Koala
05-07-11, 06:51
Not much has changed in the last 3 years. Flamingos and some other bars owned by the same company in p. Burgos have closed. Lots of freelancers hang out in Starbucks these days in Greenbelt (next to Havanahs) , Starbucks outside Shangra-La and Starbuck in Glorietta 5. Havanahs is still busy.Correction, the coffee shop in Glorietta 5 is BO's Coffee, not Startbucks.
Correction, the coffee shop in Glorietta 5 is BO's Coffee, not Startbucks.The Starbucks around the corner that looks across to Shangri-la Hotel is another good option. In that exclusive building that also has a parking station (forget the name. Something like 1950 Ayala Ave)
Snow Koala
05-07-11, 13:41
The Starbucks around the corner that looks across to Shangri-la Hotel is another good option. In that exclusive building that also has a parking station (forget the name. Something like 1950 Ayala Ave)Later in the afternoon is best. I walked past Starbucks Shanglri-la at about 1pm today and there were no girls there, also too hot anyway.
Hairy Wonder
05-07-11, 13:54
Kork,
Filipinas love being ridden bareback, as a matter of fact, they insist upon it. If a girl considers you her real boyfriend she will settle for nothing less than a good bareback fuck with a cream pie finish. If a girl goes for a covered shag it's because she doesn't really dig you or thinks you might have a disease. Even the professionals in AC let their customers ride bareback most of the time. Of course, her Filipino boyfriends fucked her bareback and cream-pied her pussy. She never requested a condom and they would be insulted if she did. I think I would take it as a desire to become pregnant with the child of a "rich foreigner," thus almost ensuring her an escape from her life of poverty. Of course, this is probably a major contributing factor to the vast number of single mothers in the Philippines. I'm sure the Catholic church's stance against any kind of birth control is also a major contributor as well.
HW
Soapy Smith
05-07-11, 20:52
Well Chocha your comments assume (I suppose) that she has some understanding of her menstrual cycle and, more importantly, her "fertile" days.
Your comment that she "Insists upon it (going bareback)" is a bit selective. RK, maybe you don't take CM seriously. He is suggesting a scientific law:
"Filipinas love being ridden bareback, as a matter of fact, they insist upon it. If a girl considers you her real boyfriend she will settle for nothing less than a good bareback fuck with a cream pie finish. If a girl goes for a covered shag it's because she doesn't really dig you or thinks you might have a disease."
So you had to go and spoil it by suggesting all these extenuating variables, like social class; educational attainment; awareness about and attitudes toward disease, contraception, and her menstrual cycle, assertiveness, and so on.
The incorrigible social researcher in me thinks that CM may be reflecting from a limited sample that is biased by selection bias on the part of the monger and the women willing to go with him. I think somebody else sort of commented on that. I wonder how the selective sample stacks up against some of these extenuating variables you mention?
Oops! There I go ruining that perfectly good scientific law about Filipinas and condoms.
Chocha Monger
05-08-11, 01:26
You might be surprised at how many beavers bareback for an extra 200 pesos. National policies also discourage condom use in addition to cultural attitudes.
http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportID=92453
Snow Koala
05-08-11, 04:02
I think I would take it as a desire to become pregnant with the child of a "rich foreigner," thus almost ensuring her an escape from her life of poverty. Of course, this is probably a major contributing factor to the vast number of single mothers in the Philippines. I'm sure the Catholic church's stance against any kind of birth control is also a major contributor as well.
HWA little about the life and psyche of provincial Filipinas including the ones that come to the cities. The following is my opinion from experience and does not apply to well educated, middle or upper class Filipinas. Lots of generalisations of course and every girl is different:
- many Filipinas come from large extended families so kids are always around.
- not a lot of Filipinas get to finish high school because of the cost clothes, books, etc so filipinas are often less mature than their western counterparts.
- there was a sex education act passed in 2005 but not a lot of schools teach it.
- as there is not much work, Filipinas hang around bored with nothing to do so playing with the boys is natural as a result, there are a lot of single mothers.
- Filipino boys are sweet talkers, romantic and like the love songs which Filipinas also love.
- having a half-half baby with blue eyes is very desireable to Filipinas.
- have a rich foreigner to look after the girl, the baby and the whole family is high desirable. The girl and the baby is fine, but the whole family is not my responsibility and surely you will have this argument sooner or later.
- Single mother Filipinas are very resiliant and seem to struggle thru what we could only consider very very tough times.
- Filipinas are devoted to their families.
- Filipinas like older guys I. E. 20 years older because they think we are more mature and stable. (I think I was more mature when I was in my 20's and 30's, now I don't take life so seriously. After an expensive divorce and child support payments I am probably less stable but thats our secret, right!).
My advice is don't rely on the girl to make decisions about protection. Decide for yourself and just tell her.
Snow
FreebieFan
05-08-11, 06:22
FF: My bad. Not sure where I got the idea Taiwan was a member of ASEAN. Taking a Filipina to PRC requires a visa, but its just about the fee as no proof of funds or employment nor anything was required to get the visa. At least when I did it back in 1994.Wish it was that easy. As I would probably have a weekly "visitor or two ". LOL. Having had a long and satisfying weekend with a 22 Filipina in Taicung, life is all nice and good again anyway!
You might be surprised at how many beavers bareback for an extra 200 pesos. National policies also discourage condom use in addition to cultural attitudes.
http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportID=92453Nailed over 20 normal girls between 18-25 years old. Only one required.
A condom.
A little about the life and psyche of provincial Filipinas including the ones that come to the cities. The following is my opinion from experience and does not apply to well educated, middle or upper class Filipinas. Lots of generalisations of course and every girl is different:
- many Filipinas come from large extended families so kids are always around.
- not a lot of Filipinas get to finish high school because of the cost clothes, books, etc so filipinas are often less mature than their western counterparts.
- there was a sex education act passed in 2005 but not a lot of schools teach it.
- as there is not much work, Filipinas hang around bored with nothing to do so playing with the boys is natural as a result, there are a lot of single mothers.
- Filipino boys are sweet talkers, romantic and like the love songs which Filipinas also love.
- having a half-half baby with blue eyes is very desireable to Filipinas.
- have a rich foreigner to look after the girl, the baby and the whole family is high desirable. The girl and the baby is fine, but the whole family is not my responsibility and surely you will have this argument sooner or later.
- Single mother Filipinas are very resiliant and seem to struggle thru what we could only consider very very tough times.
- Filipinas are devoted to their families.
- Filipinas like older guys I. E. 20 years older because they think we are more mature and stable. (I think I was more mature when I was in my 20's and 30's, now I don't take life so seriously. After an expensive divorce and child support payments I am probably less stable but thats our secret, right!).
My advice is don't rely on the girl to make decisions about protection. Decide for yourself and just tell her.
Snow1. Asian and Spanish people are more family oriented unlike others. Most families do not like children out of wedlock.
In Phi poor families do not care. Rich and respectable families do.
2. Lots and lots of Phi are getting educated. It is only the poorest who cannot afford. So they run off to AC or Manila etc to sell their body. Even if they find sponsors by this time their focus on studying and getting a decent job is lost.
3. Sex education is there but nobody pays any attention.
Their day to day life is extremely hard as is.
4. The girls are not sitting bored and having sex. It is just the hormonal thing.
5. Phi boys are like boys everywhere. Conquest of as many girls as possible seem the norm.
Problem is since the church frowns on any type of birth control and the government does not give out free pills or depo shots pregnancies occur more often. Boys are poor also. There is no way they can support the baby and the mother, so they abandon them.
6. Everybody wants a beautifull child. Since fair color is preferred naturally they want a foreign baby.
But I seldom see girls having foreign babies in abundance. Most tell me their child is from Phi BF.
7. Finding a rich foreigner for support is a recent phenomenon. This is why DIA is so popular. Even the girls on DIA say their child is from a Phi BF. So I am sure foreigners use precaution not to get the girl pregnant.
8. Once the Child is born every mother and her whole extended family are devoted to the child. So they make do with whatever they have and share.
9. Phi girls definitely prefer their own age group. But majority of the foreigners they see are old. Young foreigners are not interested in finding poor Phi girls to have fun. Look at all the mongers in AC. Most are older.
Since the girls do not have any choice in the matter, if they want foreigners all they get is older guys. It is good for them that the society as a whole does not frown upon young girls walking around with their grandfather look alikes.
It is true that they think older men can be trusted and will support them longer than any of their young BF could. In many instances even if they have a older sponsor, I am sure they have boyfriends their own age on the side.
All poor people without means or direction or luck on their side are resigned to their fate. All they want is a hassle free life whether with relationship with their grand father BF or children with foreign boyfriends or working as prostitutes in AC bars. Given the choice and freedom and help from the government they will certainly choose a different path.
WestCoast1
05-08-11, 17:57
Nailed over 20 normal girls between 18-25 years old. Only one required.
A condom. I'm with CM and BB. Have nailed 10x that many girls (normal or otherwise) , of all ages in phils. Mindanao, visayas, luzon. Less than a handful (3? 4?) have mentioned a condom. Only one insisted (AC bargirl) , stupid me: I didn't run down my laundry list to include swallow with her in the bar back then. Its rare that a girl mentions a condom to me.
Reference my post last year in the Jakarta thread. There was the usual debate going on the thread there about condom usage. One gent wrote in something like this, in response to a CM / BB-type post:
"You bareback them? I always use protection. I've had many indo-girls, they always want a condom. I would never bareback a girl there. Indo-girls always want the condom."
I would dare say that the girls themselves don't ask this gent for a condom: he offers / insists first. He just uses one, then assumes the girl wanted one. Having had bunches of indo-girls myself (like pinay) , I can say no indo-girl has ever mentioned a condom to me. They are like pinay. In fact reference my jakarta post where I specifically asked two freelance girls (in my bed after the fun) if they use condoms. They proffered the following gems:
1. They carry condoms always.
2. They never mention it to bule (foreigner) unless he mentions it. They let the bule decide.
3. Bule rarely use one.
4. They never let an indonesian man (no matter his wealth) go bareback."Indo-guy is dirty. All them."
5. They charge locals about 1/8 what they ask bule.
6. Boffing local indo-guy is a quickie. Every time. Condom. 20 minutes, bye-bye.
7. Bule is always several hours (ST in indonesia is the norm, girls don't typically do LT, the culture is different. For instance, LT in jakarta is probably until sunup in her mind, while LT in AC bars or LAC / MBC or DIA meets is until 10am for me).
Obviously there are differences in outlook between the two countries, Indo and Phils, see the ST / LT thing. But when it comes to condoms, I rarely have anyone mention it unless I do. As a guess, if I bed 100 pinay this year, and don't ever mention a condom, maybe 1 or two will mention it (but not insist). There could be many reasons for this.
Kork,
Filipinas love being ridden bareback, as a matter of fact, they insist upon it. If a girl considers you her real boyfriend she will settle for nothing less than a good bareback fuck with a cream pie finish. If a girl goes for a covered shag it's because she doesn't really dig you or thinks you might have a disease. Even the professionals in AC let their customers ride bareback most of the time. Of course, her Filipino boyfriends fucked her bareback and cream-pied her pussy. She never requested a condom and they would be insulted if she did. I have had only one filipina exprience, a WG at OT in Singapore (!) and she deliberately asked to be ridden bareback and said "I prefer it that way, just do not come inside"
So there must be a level of sexual preference paired with (in that case) with a dregree of contraceptive (!) mode
Chocha Monger
05-09-11, 00:21
I have had only one filipina exprience, a WG at OT in Singapore (!) and she deliberately asked to be ridden bareback and said "I prefer it that way, just do not come inside"
So there must be a level of sexual preference paired with (in that case) with a dregree of contraceptive (!) modeYah! They love that skin to skin surgery. Lots of mongers frequent the Philippines specifically because of the readily available bareback beaver. Some guys have been raw dogging there for decades. I suspect one of the main reasons why there are not more babies sired by foreigners is the use of birth control methods other than condoms and the fact that the majority of the mongering population is elderly with sperm past the peak of fertility, also many having had vasectomies after raising a family back home. Plus many mongers don't spend enough time rooting any one given girl to catch her during her ovulation period. Their young local pinoy boyfriends who mount them on a regular basis ultimately win out when it comes to impregnation.
7. Finding a rich foreigner for support is a recent phenomenon. This is why DIA is so popular. Even the girls on DIA say their child is from a Phi BF. So I am sure foreigners use precaution not to get the girl pregnant.Well if you use the sample of comments from foreigners in this thread alone as an indicator then your number 7 is way off the mark Samm.
Soapy Smith
05-09-11, 05:01
Yah! They love that skin to skin surgery.Or maybe they like the after action dash to the bathroom with semen (and / or blood) running down their leg, and then the time they get to spend squatting in the shower or over the toilet douching out the leftovers. And for the LT girl there's the delightful opportunity to lie all night in the wetspot from the part that dribbled out onto the sheet.
Obviously bareback feels better to men. The raincoat metaphor speaks to that. But when was the last time a woman told you that she can actually feel the difference between bareback and covered, other than when the guy cums? Why do you suppose women often ask,"did you cum yet"? It's because they often don't feel it. So what feels to us like a few seconds of fireworks going off doesn't necessarily register with her. They're more likely to figure it out from listening to our breathing, or to the sounds we make. Most of the nerve endings in the vaginal area are in the vicinity of the opening, so it's the motion of her little man in the canoe getting pushed and pulled around on the ocean surface that gets her going, not the feeling of the head of his member banging around against her cervix.
Friday night just went out and got hammered with my Manila DIA girl.
Arrived back from Cebu around 8 pm. Immediately called my Manila DIA girl to go out and party.
Back to the room for drunk sex. She is really a wildcat when she has a buzz going. Getting on top and just rockin' my world.
I really thought she would break the condom, but Trojans have never failed me yet.
A great night and slept late again. (all day)
Saturday evening with my Manila girl.
Went to Manila bay Saturday evening. She said she had never been to Manila bay although living here all her life. Also I just wanted to take a look at the famous MBC.
She really enjoyed walking the Baywalk. At one point a flower seller kept pestering us for almost 2 blocks, and finally gave up. Later my girl tells me it was a ladyboy, and I asked how could you tell? She said "you can tell by the kneecaps". Well I never I thought of that, and also there was a child with her which I presumed was hers. My girl said the flower seller told her "don't be greedy with your foreigner".
Stopped by the Filipino Casino, which is part of the Hyatt. Dropped 200 pesos and departed.
After getting several different sets of directions from several different people, we finally ended up at MBC. It looked like it was completely filled with girls and a few guys. This around 7:30pm Just looked in the window, and then headed to Cowboy Grill. The cab driver intentionally didn't turn on the meter (first time this happened to me since arriving) , Cowboy Grill is only like 2 blocks away, but we had been walking for about 30 minutes to find MBC. I did not feel like walking more. After getting in I didn't think his car would make it 2 blocks. 100 pesos he said.
Cowboy grill already had a band playing and it was still early. We just had beer and waited for the rain to stop. The street flooded with all the stink that comes with it.
Left Mabini, Ermita. Headed back to Gerry's grill for some food.
Kork
Yah! ..... Plus many mongers don't spend enough time rooting any one given girl to catch her during her ovulation period. Their young local pinoy boyfriends who mount them on a regular basis ultimately win out when it comes to impregnation.The individual monger might not hit the score of the righ ovulation period, but the girl (if WG, and then with repeated action) surely will not miss it, so one or another one might seed her. .
Trip to MNL coming up, wondering if anyone had recent experiences at the following and can share:
1. The Casas (Bautista, etc.)
2. Miss Universal.
Thanks!
Yah! They love that skin to skin surgery. Lots of mongers frequent the Philippines specifically because of the readily available bareback beaver. Some guys have been raw dogging there for decades. I suspect one of the main reasons why there are not more babies sired by foreigners is the use of birth control methods other than condoms and the fact that the majority of the mongering population is elderly with sperm past the peak of fertility, also many having had vasectomies after raising a family back home. Plus many mongers don't spend enough time rooting any one given girl to catch her during her ovulation period. Their young local pinoy boyfriends who mount them on a regular basis ultimately win out when it comes to impregnation.Good call. I an elderly and have a vasectomy and just about always cum in pussy. It feels soooo good.
MANILA: Two Swedish men were jailed for life in the Philippines for [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) after they were found running a cybersex den in which nude women performed for Internet clients, authorities said on Wednesday.
[Name(s) deleted by Admin]. 31, and [Name(s) deleted by Admin]. 35, were given the unprecedented convictions on Tuesday in what the judge presiding over the case and the government said should deliver a warning to all human traffickers.
"Disrespect for Filipino women and violations of our laws deserve the strongest condemnations from this court," judge Jeoffre Acebido said in his ruling, according to the clerk of the court, Nelison Salcedo.
"It will not shirk from its duty to impose the most severe of penalties against anybody, be he a foreign national or a citizen of this country, who tramples upon the dignity of a woman by taking advantage of her vulnerability."
Salcedo told AFP the two Swedes were arrested when police raided a commercial building in the tiny southern Philippine town of Kauswagan in April 2009 and found 17 naked Filipinas before computer screens.
The women were given 15,000 pesos ($350) a month to act at the bidding of online clients who paid by credit card.
"Once the client has paid for a private show, anything goes," said Salcedo, adding the women used sex toys.
Cybersex dens have become a growing problem in the impoverished Philippines, according to law enforcers and social workers. Police have raided dozens in recent years and made many arrests.
But Salcedo said the ruling was a Philippine landmark because it was the first time a court had convicted anyone for their involvement in cybersex operations.
Justice Secretary Leila de Lima hailed the ruling and said it was part of a broader campaign against human traffickers that was launched last year after the US government placed the Philippines on a watchlist.
"The conviction sends a strong warning to other violators," de Lima told AFP."This is part of our intensified, gung-ho efforts versus [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) as we continue to aspire for delisting from (US) Tier 2 watchlist."
The US government says being on its Tier 2 watchlist means a country is not fully complying with minimum standards for eliminating [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), and a further deterioration could attract sanctions.
Remmy Rikken, head of the Philippine Commission on Women that advises President Benigno Aquino on women's affairs, said Tuesday's verdict owed much to de Lima's anti-[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) crusade.
Rikken said de Lima last year assigned [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) cases to a special task force of prosecutors, doing away with the previous practice of letting provincial prosecutors handle cases.
"Before that there would be a lot of arrests but there were no convictions at all," Rikken told AFP.
The task force tracks all types of [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), including women and children being forced into prostitution or as subjects for pornography.
Rikken said that, before Tuesday's verdicts. 42 people had been convicted on [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) charges over the past two months but that none of them were for cybersex-related activities.
Three Filipinos who were arrested in the raid alongside the Swedes were given 20-year prison terms, according to Salcedo, the court clerk.
The Swedes attracted longer jail sentences because they had set up the operation and the three Filipinos worked for them, Salcedo said.
The five convicts have 15 days to appeal the court ruling, she said.
Par Kageby, senior consular officer for the Swedish embassy in Bangkok that oversees Sweden's consulate in Manila, confirmed the court ruling against the men.
"We learned that they have been convicted and sentenced to life in prison," Kageby said.
Back in the states now. Pussy withdrawal is hell.
Just a few trip notes:
Airfare from Florida = 1254 USD via Korean Air, booked on Kayak.
(could have gotten it 100 less if booked 1 week earlier)
Korean air is nice, flight attendants 9 on any scale.
Hotel 24h = 900 USD for 18 days. I'll give 2. 2 stars out of 5 for a general rating.
I really grew to like this hotel, it was away from all the action. It was in a local neighborhood, I could walk or trike to Shopwise and pick up my Red Horse for 20 pesos. Free Wi fi in the room, and free breakfast. They have a flier advertising weekly rates of 18k pesos a week plus 500p a night for guest, for a 1 bedroom with kitchenette. The staff was nice and never bothered me. I had a late flight and they let me check out at 7pm no charge.
From when I first arrived it seemed like everybody was trying to hook me up. The cab driver from the airport to the hotel said he had a niece in General Santos that he wanted me to e-mail.
My Manila DIA girl was really nice. I am glad I hooked up with her. She was everything I was looking for. Open and fun.
She rarely left my side while in Manila. And I can understand why. I went to visit her house near Pateros and her and family, Mom, Dad, brother, sister and kids with boyfriend all lived and slept in a house smaller than my hotel room. They put cushions down at night in the living room to sleep. With no aircon. The family made a great feast for me when I visited. Fried tilapia, and garlic shrimp.
I did make her go home on mothers day.
We had fun and sex everyday, once with her and her best friend. She had never had her pussy licked, she said she is going to miss that most. We ate out everynight, which she enjoyed.
I only hooked up with one other girl when I made a side trip to Cebu, report in Cebu thread.
Both girls were high school graduated, with at least one year of college each. Or so they claimed.
Both spoke flawless english. Both told me they had never had any sex education in school, except something out of science book. My Manila girl had never seen a condom.
I thought I had seen some seriously intense driving in Guatemala, but I've never seen anything to compare to Manila. You really must know what you are doing there. I wouldn't attempt to drive there. Taxi's are everywhere anyway.
Of the red light areas, Burgos, MBC, I only briefly visited with my DIA girl. But there were just loads of fine looking ladies available.
I gave my Manila girl about 60 dollars a day for her companionship and fun times. She stayed with me 24/7.
Kork
Here is a somewhat belated report on my Philippine trip. I am not a monger, I went there for a kayak snorkel trip and also to see whale sharks. But I do like pussy and wanted to have at least some. But because my wife home keeps close watch of my schedule I had very limited time. In spite of some attempt to help by a few members of ISG I did not succeed to secure anything in advance. And I arrived early evening after 22 hours of flight during which I slept only 2-3 hours. After checking into the Nichols Airport Hotel it was already 8 PM. Next morning I had to get up at 5:30 AM to go back to the airport to fly to the whale shark place (Legaspi airport)
Given the fact that I am 70 years old you younger monger may or may not understand my dilemma. So I decided to do it that night and used an agency Makati Escort. I know, I know you will say I paid too much, etc etc. But that is pretty much all I could do. And what is $50 or so too much in my situation? I do not get much chances for pussy. In my hometown in the US I would have to dish out at least $ 300 for an average one to one and half hour session, and worry about being found out.
So how did it turn out? Very well, I am happy to report. First the bad: (a) I was too tired and none too strong for fucking. (be) She was not an enthusiastic kisser.
Now, the good: Everything else. This is how it went. I booked Jenny. 4000 p for two hours. Yeah expensive for Philippines. And yeah, I don't care. She arrived late, with traffic the excuse, but no importance, she was there in my room. Face around 7. 5, nice enough. But when she starts taking off her clothes WOW! What a body. As far as I am concerned a 10, for sure. Beautiful hourglass figure with small waist. Perfect, natural, cone shaped C cup tits, and a great ass too. That is what my dreams are made of.
We did some kissing and touching, I loved playing with those gorgeous tits, and then went into the shower together where she proceeded to thoroughly wash my cock and started a blow job. But we did not linger in the shower because the water was not hot enough, so back to the bed. At my age I am a one pop guy (oh to be young again!) so we proceeded at a leisurely pace. I explore the nooks and crannies of that beautiful body and we make some conversation too. Then back to BBBJ. She was very good at it and was able several times to take my fairly large tool all the way down. So after a prolonged time of that it is better to give her mouth some rest and I want some DATY. That is nice too but she is only moderately responsive. Good, but I had better. So a little more of her excellent BBBJ and then on goes the condom. But here the situation is not favorable. I forgot to bring American made ones and the Philippine one is too damn small. Hard to put on and chokes my poor cock which is not too strong anyway. I barely get inside her when I start flagging already. We try a few positions and a new condom with the same result. Oh well I will just have to make the best of this. So after a short rest, more body exploration and small talk we go back to BBBJ. Here is where she really shined. She went on tirelessly for a long time and I really loved it because we would change position so that I could watch and touch different parts of her as she continued with only momentary interruptions. Finally I came, she did not take it in her mouth, but only took it out in the last seconds. I let her rest a little, then she cleaned me up and I asked her for a massage. She was competent, better than what you get from an average working girl. I enjoyed watching her dress up and gave her more strokes during.
A bit of heaven for a 70 year old, I say. And as far as I am concerned well worth what I paid for it.
Amen.
PS I had a rather similar experience (with a different girl) on the equally brief stopover on the way back.
Jack James
05-15-11, 02:55
Hi members,
I stayed in mahkati in April when into a club that had Russian and filiapina dancers. This is a strip joint, I was only there for 30 minutes, didn't have the time to stay longer. Iam heading back there in July, my understanding is when I was there the girls only strip my question is to the fellow members is can you barfine the girls and do they do more then strip. Has anyone had an experience in this club were the girls go all the way. T
Just to share some field visit in Manila. Been to AF1, Classmate and Heartbeat. Expensive as in Manila rate where range from ps 12k till 15k for LT!
You hardly get a pinay over 23 yo in those joints. Mostly students just over 18 yo especially Classmate. Some of them are really A++ and of course still has many B or minus.
Tiptop GFE, just too expensive. After the first encounter if go direct contact, prices down 30 percent.
Asset is flawless, as well as attitude to please is priceless.
I've heard AF1 is a very high end p[lace with stunning girls. How much would it cost for ST in a room at AF1? This is my second trip to Manila and AF1 is on my bucket list. I know it's expensive but I'm hoping it won't be ridiculously expensive for ST.
I've heard AF1 is a very high end p[lace with stunning girls. How much would it cost for ST in a room at AF1? This is my second trip to Manila and AF1 is on my bucket list. I know it's expensive but I'm hoping it won't be ridiculously expensive for ST.You book for the massage which cost say about P3000 for 3 hours, well you can book for 2 hours and pay less. The girl will bath with you and massage you, and later expect you to have sex, and you pay directly to her. That will cost you at least another P3000, depending on your negotiation skill. The girls are good and young.
Member #4698
05-15-11, 19:39
I've heard AF1 is a very high end p[lace with stunning girls. How much would it cost for ST in a room at AF1? This is my second trip to Manila and AF1 is on my bucket list. I know it's expensive but I'm hoping it won't be ridiculously expensive for ST.There are 2 establishments in the AF1 complex. On the lower level is Flight 168 massage parlor. On the upper level is AF1 nightclub. I went there twice on my recent visit to Manila.
First time was around 6pm. The night club was closed. In the massage parlor, from a fishbowl of 20 girls, I chose a 1st class girl and then a business class room. (I would rate the girl a 6.5* out of 10.) She was cute and had nice 'b' cup breasts and a playful personality. Because it was around 6pm, they gave me a discounted rate. 2200p for the girl and 2200p for the room I think. The girl's name was Anna. Her badge was B 4. She gave me a good 120 minute session which included soapy shower, soapy Jacuzzi, BBBJ, sex in multiple positions and a massage. The room was large and very comfortable. I left feeling good and thought the place was comparable to a quality Bangkok Soapy massage parlor.
2nd time I arrived around 8pm. The nightclub was not open. I went downstairs and had to wait around 20 minutes for the girl's show time. There were around 15 other punters, all Asian waiting in the lounge area with me. There was a dinner buffet available. I ordered a beer. Then the papasan announced it was show time. The lineup was better than at 6pm. I spotted a very pretty girl (7* out of 10) and chose her. Her name was Alma and her badge was A1. I don't know if that means anything, but she was the best looking girl in the fishbowl. Service was about the same as the first time meaning it was good. Since the girl was prettier than the first visit, I enjoyed this 2 hour session a little more. The price was 2500p for Alma and 2500p for the room (no discount because it was 8pm). She said she was a part time student. She gave me her phone number in case I wanted to see her privately another time. That was tempting, but I was leaving the next day for BKK.
Afterwards I went upstairs. It was around 10:30pm. The nightclub (AF1) was open and just starting up. There was one table occupied. Three girls were onstage dancing. The girl in the middle was a knockout! 9* out of 10. The two girls on her side were pretty and I would rate them as 7's. I got to talking to the host who was a good guy and he explained the system. There are private rooms available stocked with liquor and one way glass so you can see the show from inside. The VIP rooms hold up to 12 people and are expensive. I forgot how much because I was not very interested in going that route, but I remembered the fact that they were high price. There are smaller rooms available that hold just 2 or 3 people. Again, I do not remember the exact price because this is not my scene. The nightclub has a cover charge to sit at a table in front of the stage. Any girl you see in the club will come and sit with you as long as you keep buying drinks or go for the private parties in the VIP rooms. I asked the host a question that was of interest to me: if I took a fancy to one of the girls could I bar fine her and take her down to one of the rooms in Flight 168. He said it was up to the girl. They are not obligated to do that.
Ok, so here is the bottom line concerning AF1 Nightclub: There are gorgeous girls there, better looking than what I saw in AC or Burgos ST, Havana Café and Flight 168. To get one is going to cost a good deal of money. The bar fine is at least 4000pesos. The 1st class bedroom in Flight 168 is 2500p. The girl, a stunner, why would you go here if not looking for 9* is going to run at least 4000p ST. So add it up. It tops 10000p minimum not counting drinks. Is it worth it? Up to you. Me; I think yes, once in a while you have to go for the best, the really beautiful. Next time I am in Manila I plan to go to AF1 around 11pm and see what happens.
There are 2 establishments in the AF1 complex. On the lower level is Flight 168 massage parlor. On the upper level is AF1 nightclub. I went there twice on my recent visit to Manila.
First time was around 6pm. The night club was closed. In the massage parlor, from a fishbowl of 20 girls, I chose a 1st class girl and then a business class room. (I would rate the girl a 6. 5* out of 10.) She was cute and had nice 'be' cup breasts and a playful personality. Because it was around 6pm, they gave me a discounted rate. 2200p for the girl and 2200p for the room I think. The girl's name was Anna. Her badge was B 4. She gave me a good 120 minute session which included soapy shower, soapy Jacuzzi, BBBJ, sex in multiple positions and a massage. The room was large and very comfortable. I left feeling good and thought the place was comparable to a quality Bangkok Soapy massage parlor.
2nd time I arrived around 8pm. The nightclub was not open. I went downstairs and had to wait around 20 minutes for the girl's show time. There were around 15 other punters, all Asian waiting in the lounge area with me. There was a dinner buffet available. I ordered a beer. Then the papasan announced it was show time. The lineup was better than at 6pm. I spotted a very pretty girl (7* out of 10) and chose her. Her name was Alma and her badge was A1. I don't know if that means anything, but she was the best looking girl in the fishbowl. Service was about the same as the first time meaning it was good. Since the girl was prettier than the first visit, I enjoyed this 2 hour session a little more. The price was 2500p for Alma and 2500p for the room (no discount because it was 8pm). She said she was a part time student. She gave me her phone number in case I wanted to see her privately another time. That was tempting, but I was leaving the next day for BKK.
Afterwards I went upstairs. It was around 10:30pm. The nightclub (AF1) was open and just starting up. There was one table occupied. Three girls were onstage dancing. The girl in the middle was a knockout! 9* out of 10. The two girls on her side were pretty and I would rate them as 7's. I got to talking to the host who was a good guy and he explained the system. There are private rooms available stocked with liquor and one way glass so you can see the show from inside. The VIP rooms hold up to 12 people and are expensive. I forgot how much because I was not very interested in going that route, but I remembered the fact that they were high price. There are smaller rooms available that hold just 2 or 3 people. Again, I do not remember the exact price because this is not my scene. The nightclub has a cover charge to sit at a table in front of the stage. Any girl you see in the club will come and sit with you as long as you keep buying drinks or go for the private parties in the VIP rooms. I asked the host a question that was of interest to me: if I took a fancy to one of the girls could I bar fine her and take her down to one of the rooms in Flight 168. He said it was up to the girl. They are not obligated to do that.
Ok, so here is the bottom line concerning AF1 Nightclub: There are gorgeous girls there, better looking than what I saw in AC or Burgos ST, Havana Café and Flight 168. To get one is going to cost a good deal of money. The bar fine is at least 4000pesos. The 1st class bedroom in Flight 168 is 2500p. The girl, a stunner, why would you go here if not looking for 9* is going to run at least 4000p ST. So add it up. It tops 10000p minimum not counting drinks. Is it worth it? Up to you. Me; I think yes, once in a while you have to go for the best, the really beautiful. Next time I am in Manila I plan to go to AF1 around 11pm and see what happens. I am not a cheap charlie, but you are talking about $230 US dollars? That is actually more than I pay in California for a very attractive BBBJ / FS.
Not bad mouthing you, just seems like the prices are outrageous at that place.
WestCoast1
05-16-11, 06:51
I am not a cheap charlie, but you are talking about $230 US dollars? That is actually more than I pay in California for a very attractive BBBJ / FS.
Not bad mouthing you, just seems like the prices are outrageous at that place. LP is correct. Wow. LP I will PM you.
Just got back from trip to Manila. Had a few days to myself and ventured out before leaving to meet the wife in the province. After arriving at the hotel I hit the casino to have a few drinks to unwind and do some gambling. Made some money but was too tired to go out. Tried calling an escort agency but was told that the ones that I wanted was not available. One was out of town and the other was not on duty. Called it a night and went to sleep.
Second night hit the EDSA complex. Bar hopped a while and settled into Space girls. Being it my first time at a place like this I was educated on how things work there by my wife for the night and her best friend. Bought them a few drinks for them, mamasan, and myself. After paying BF and drinks tab came out to P4600, damn did not know LD were that expensive. Did not really give it a second thought as I made some money the previous night.
So we arrived at the room and she was everything that I expected. We started french kissing each other after taking a shower. I go down on her and start eating her out and fingering her. She starts moaning saying that she cumming, I tell myself yeah right, but sure enough I taste her cum and go to kiss her and feel that her tongue a little cold. Past experience tell me that she did cum. She then starts with a BBBJ on me then puts on the cover and starts with a CG then goes into RCG. I then bang her from behind and finish in mish. Overall great service from her.
L8 / S10 / A10. I maybe over rating her but being my first time here I found that she was sincere in what she was telling.
Member #4698
05-16-11, 12:54
I am not a cheap charlie, but you are talking about $230 US dollars? That is actually more than I pay in California for a very attractive BBBJ / FS.
Not bad mouthing you, just seems like the prices are outrageous at that place. I appreciate your response to my report and I agree with you that prices are pretty outrageous at Air Force One nightclub. But let's get something understood: I am not talking about paying 10,000p or more for 'very attractive. ' I think you can find some very attractive girls in AC for 3000p LT at places like Golden Nile complex and Dollhouse. I also think you can find very attractive girls on Burgos for maybe 6,000p at places like Jools. I am talking about 9* magazine model quality girls with world class looks. These girls are rare in the PI P4P scene IMHO. Now I also know that you are not guaranteed great performance with girls like these, so given you do find a stunner in AF1, Pegasus, or one of the other high end KTV's on Quezon Ave, one still has to interview her well to reduce the odds of a starfish experience.
I think a better comparison to dropping 10,000p in AF1 is what it costs in a top end Macau Sauna like Rio Spa. The model quality Rio Chinese girls some of which are really spectacular go for 2000hk ($257) for 90 minutes service which includes soapy body massage, fire and Ice BBBJ, cat licking & anal rim job and a shag. It's quite expensive in my opinion, but definitely worth the splurge a couple times a year, again IMHO.
Look I hate the high prices as much as anybody, but I also like shagging really amazing good looking women. I also fuck girl next door gone bad types like what you mainly find on Fields Ave for 1500p LT or BKK oily massage girls for around 1800bt inclusive for 90 minutes. Maybe if the USA gets rid of Obama and puts in place some intelligent economic policies, the dollar will turn around in value. But until such time, expect to see higher and higher prices everywhere in Asia. I don't set economic policies or flood the market with excess US Dollars. I am merely reporting as accurately as possible what is out there. Every player will decide for his maximum satisfaction given his own financial contraints.
Key Master
05-16-11, 14:45
I appreciate your response to my report and I agree with you that prices are pretty outrageous at Air Force One nightclub. But let's get something understood: I am not talking about paying 10, 000p or more for 'very attractive. ' I think you can find some very attractive girls in AC for 3000p LT at places like Golden Nile complex and Dollhouse. I also think you can find very attractive girls on Burgos for maybe 6, 000p at places like Jools. I am talking about 9* magazine model quality girls with world class looks. These girls are rare in the PI P4P scene IMHO. Now I also know that you are not guaranteed great performance with girls like these, so given you do find a stunner in AF1, Pegasus, or one of the other high end KTV's on Quezon Ave, one still has to interview her well to reduce the odds of a starfish experience.
I think a better comparison to dropping 10, 000p in AF1 is what it costs in a top end Macau Sauna like Rio Spa. The model quality Rio Chinese girls some of which are really spectacular go for 2000hk ($257) for 90 minutes service which includes soapy body massage, fire and Ice BBBJ, cat licking & anal rim job and a shag. It's quite expensive in my opinion, but definitely worth the splurge a couple times a year, again IMHO.
Look I hate the high prices as much as anybody, but I also like shagging really amazing good looking women. I also fuck girl next door gone bad types like what you mainly find on Fields Ave for 1500p LT or BKK oily massage girls for around 1800bt inclusive for 90 minutes. Maybe if the USA gets rid of Obama and puts in place some intelligent economic policies, the dollar will turn around in value. But until such time, expect to see higher and higher prices everywhere in Asia. I don't set economic policies or flood the market with excess US Dollars. I am merely reporting as accurately as possible what is out there. Every player will decide for his maximum satisfaction given his own financial contraints. NP, thanks for the report on AF1. I appreciate it. I agree once in awhile you splurge on exceptional. I also don't think people realize that you are talking possibly real 9 or 10s here. A lot of people tend to overrate the women as it is and my take on your reports is that you are talking true 9-10s than what other people normally do here. So, thanks and enjoy.
Here is a somewhat belated report on my Philippine trip. I am not a monger, I went there for a kayak snorkel trip and also to see whale sharks.
PS I had a rather similar experience (with a different girl) on the equally brief stopover on the way back. Welcome to the mongers club!
Hi members,
I stayed in mahkati in April when into a club that had Russian and filiapina dancers. This is a strip joint, I was only there for 30 minutes, didn't have the time to stay longer. Iam heading back there in July, my understanding is when I was there the girls only strip my question is to the fellow members is can you barfine the girls and do they do more then strip. Has anyone had an experience in this club were the girls go all the way. TU could not barfine but I have seen them at icon late at night that was your best bet. Now the disappointing bit. Davinos is CLOSED. I was there on Saturday and there was a sign on the door saying closed until further notice. I heard from another girl that SHAMPOO has a white girl but didn't check it out.
Chocha Monger
05-16-11, 19:42
U could not barfine but I have seen them at icon late at night that was your best bet. Now the disappointing bit. Davinos is CLOSED. I was there on Saturday and there was a sign on the door saying closed until further notice. I heard from another girl that SHAMPOO has a white girl but didn't check it out.Why would anyone travel to the Philippines to hunt white beaver? I'm sure the cost is way above that for the native species.
Fast Eddie 48
05-16-11, 22:44
I appreciate your response to my report and I agree with you that prices are pretty outrageous at Air Force One nightclub. But let's get something understood: I am not talking about paying 10, 000p or more for 'very attractive. ' I think you can find some very attractive girls in AC for 3000p LT at places like Golden Nile complex and Dollhouse. I also think you can find very attractive girls on Burgos for maybe 6, 000p at places like Jools. I am talking about 9* magazine model quality girls with world class looks. These girls are rare in the PI P4P scene IMHO. Now I also know that you are not guaranteed great performance with girls like these, so given you do find a stunner in AF1, Pegasus, or one of the other high end KTV's on Quezon Ave, one still has to interview her well to reduce the odds of a starfish experience.
I think a better comparison to dropping 10, 000p in AF1 is what it costs in a top end Macau Sauna like Rio Spa. The model quality Rio Chinese girls some of which are really spectacular go for 2000hk ($257) for 90 minutes service which includes soapy body massage, fire and Ice BBBJ, cat licking & anal rim job and a shag. It's quite expensive in my opinion, but definitely worth the splurge a couple times a year, again IMHO.
Look I hate the high prices as much as anybody, but I also like shagging really amazing good looking women. I also fuck girl next door gone bad types like what you mainly find on Fields Ave for 1500p LT or BKK oily massage girls for around 1800bt inclusive for 90 minutes. Maybe if the USA gets rid of Obama and puts in place some intelligent economic policies, the dollar will turn around in value. But until such time, expect to see higher and higher prices everywhere in Asia. I don't set economic policies or flood the market with excess US Dollars. I am merely reporting as accurately as possible what is out there. Every player will decide for his maximum satisfaction given his own financial contraints.To Natty
I was like to treat myself to a highend model 3-4 time a yr but in Manila highend KTV, I just get the girl cell number I have done this in club in Burgo and miss universive in malate and call them in the daytime, they will come to your hotel for 2000 peso for st you save paying the high price barfine that the girl don't get anyway, I have done this in jarkata and shanghai also.
Fast Eddie 48
Thanks for the outstanding report on AF1! I am as curious as many and I too will splurge on a true 9 or 10, as I only monger in SE Asia once every year. Your report supplied invaluable information to the workings. My plan is to touchdown Manila at 11 a. M, check in hotel my 1 p. M, get my bearings and hit AF1 for my first pop with a model type.
I am hoping others will chime in with real details of recent experiences at these places. I am trying to decide what area to stay in Manila as I am not a fan of 4000 plus hotel rooms, so I suspect Makati is out.
I have only been to AC one time before and found it boring after a few days. Yes, there were stunners there, but it appeared they were a little, snooty, for lack of a better word.
Cebu was ok for a GFE if you put the effort into setting up contacts long before your arrival. I have a few lined up and will report back after my trip in September.
So I will go back to re-reading the forum's and try and figure out the best place for me for a few days in Manila before moving on to another part of the P. I.
What I am looking for is a quick breakdown of the areas of Manila and their plus's and minus's if anyone knows of a link or wishes to help me out. Yes, I have and am reading the forums, but my head is spinning.
Thanks again Natty for your input. BRAVO!
I appreciate your response to my report and I agree with you that prices are pretty outrageous at Air Force One nightclub. But let's get something understood: I am not talking about paying 10, 000p or more for 'very attractive. ' I think you can find some very attractive girls in AC for 3000p LT at places like Golden Nile complex and Dollhouse. I also think you can find very attractive girls on Burgos for maybe 6, 000p at places like Jools. I am talking about 9* magazine model quality girls with world class looks. These girls are rare in the PI P4P scene IMHO. Now I also know that you are not guaranteed great performance with girls like these, so given you do find a stunner in AF1, Pegasus, or one of the other high end KTV's on Quezon Ave, one still has to interview her well to reduce the odds of a starfish experience.
I think a better comparison to dropping 10, 000p in AF1 is what it costs in a top end Macau Sauna like Rio Spa. The model quality Rio Chinese girls some of which are really spectacular go for 2000hk ($257) for 90 minutes service which includes soapy body massage, fire and Ice BBBJ, cat licking & anal rim job and a shag. It's quite expensive in my opinion, but definitely worth the splurge a couple times a year, again IMHO.
Look I hate the high prices as much as anybody, but I also like shagging really amazing good looking women. I also fuck girl next door gone bad types like what you mainly find on Fields Ave for 1500p LT or BKK oily massage girls for around 1800bt inclusive for 90 minutes. Maybe if the USA gets rid of Obama and puts in place some intelligent economic policies, the dollar will turn around in value. But until such time, expect to see higher and higher prices everywhere in Asia. I don't set economic policies or flood the market with excess US Dollars. I am merely reporting as accurately as possible what is out there. Every player will decide for his maximum satisfaction given his own financial contraints. OK. I will be in town in about a week and am staying at the Marriott. I will have to check the place out. I don't mind splurging, if the quality is as good as you say it is.
Jack James
05-17-11, 04:47
U could not barfine but I have seen them at icon late at night that was your best bet. Now the disappointing bit. Davinos is CLOSED. I was there on Saturday and there was a sign on the door saying closed until further notice. I heard from another girl that SHAMPOO has a white girl but didn't check it out.Thanks for the info, how far away is shampoo from the Russian club?
Member #4698
05-17-11, 05:06
I was like to treat myself to a highend model 3-4 time a yr but in Manila highend KTV, I just get the girl cell number I have done this in club in Burgo and miss universive in malate and call them in the daytime, they will come to your hotel for 2000 peso for st you save paying the high price barfine that the girl don't get anyway, I have done this in jarkata and shanghai also. Fast Eddie 48It is definitely worth a try. Or failing that, pay up one time and then get her number. This second approach works a lot for me. Alma (A1) downstairs in Flight 168 was up for that. A lot of girls I meet in Bangkok Go Go's offer to give me their cell number to set up a tryst on their nights off after one regular session. Treat the girls nice and they will want to see you on the side, but then there are only a few girls each trip that I want to see a second time."I am a King Bee buzzing around your hive. Well I can make honey. Let me come inside...Well I can buzz better baby, when your man is gone." Slim Harpo. 1957.
OK. I will be in town in about a week and am staying at the Marriott. I will have to check the place out. I don't mind splurging, if the quality is as good as you say it is.
I stayed at the Marriott my last night in Manila. I had a free night coming from my Marriott Chase Visa card. It is less than 10 minutes to AF1 from the Marriott unless you get caught in rush hour traffic and the hotel is right across the street from Terminal 3. The Marriott is not exactly in a good neighborhood, but it is part of a self contained complex with Resorts World casino and another hotel. There is a connected shopping mall with at least 20 restaurants and a condo development. It's a little strange there, but ok for a day or two. Asian Entertainment complex is also in the vicinity and a little further north is the Edsa Complex. For longer visits, I prefer to stay in Makati.
U could not barfine but I have seen them at icon late at night that was your best bet. Now the disappointing bit. Davinos is CLOSED. I was there on Saturday and there was a sign on the door saying closed until further notice. I heard from another girl that SHAMPOO has a white girl but didn't check it out.Just curious. To follow up on that theme. Are any of these strip clubs? I've been going to Makati for 15 years, only went to a strip club once or twice about 10 years ago, and then it seemed they went out of style (mostly because you can see tits just about anywhere). Plus. I can sense they always see the "white" guy coming. And jack up the prices (sure they may do that in many places. But especially here).
So, my point was this: what are the strip clubs in Manila? Are they stripping at the KTVs now? I always figured those places to be for Asian men. I don't go there as rule of thumb.
Thanks,
Lalake
Dezzy Haynes
05-17-11, 16:54
i'm writing this report as someone with no prior experience in manila. i don't know how useful it will be, but i do think that a newbie's perspective is worth looking at. i made a few mistakes, had a bit of luck and learnt a lot. maybe some other prospective mongerer will learn from my story. for those who are interested, i changed the names of the girls; anyone interested in any of them can pm me.
day 1: the arrival.
i got in at 22:10 from hong kong. i'the been travelling all day and was feeling pretty rooted, but i was pleasantly surprised by the speed of immigration and transport. no check-in luggage, so that definitely helped. barely 40 minutes after i landed, i was standing at the victory liner terminal in pasay, lining up for a bus to dau (cab 200 pesos). the plan was to take a jeepney from there to the action in angeles. but it wasn't to be. all the buses were full, i tried every counter, and the earliest i could get away was 5am. bugger. after a bit of dithering, i decided to get in a cab and go to ermita. maybe i'the do the first night there and see what happened.
got out of the cab (150 pesos) in front of the ermita church, which for those who don't know is situated on m. h. del pilar st. (del pilar for short). this is pretty much the main drag for the action in ermita, and it would be where i would have most of my fun over the next few days. knowledge-wise, i felt a bit vulnerable walking down that street. i'the read every post about angeles on isg, but nothing at all about manila. to make matters worse, i was looking for a hotel too, so i couldn't walk along like i'the been there a hundred times before, as one does in a new destination. and so the sharks began to circle. i stopped for a smoke (mistake) and two or three punters came from nowhere. hello, handsome, where you go etc. one of them was not bad looking, so i accepted her invitation to show me a good hotel. medium-height, slim, brown thing in a tight white top and black hot pants. she showed me a couple of places within the first two minutes and i wasn't keen. a few meters ahead, we came to the duck inn. for me it was perfect. nice little bar downstairs, no escorted girls allowed inside and right in the middle of what i wanted. walked inside, greeted the staff and just had a good feeling right away. paid 1400 (advertised rate) and went up to drop off my bag. came downstairs and walked up to the security guard and asked if i could talk to him. he took me to a corner of the bar and i ordered a drink. i noticed that the girl who had brought me there was waiting outside on the street, but i wasn't in a big hurry. from my experiences elsewhere, i knew it was a good idea to make friends with the security dude right away. the girl could wait. the security guard's name was reggie, and he was a wealth of info. he said he worked from 9 till 7, he checked all of the ids, and no girl could leave the hotel until security (or reception) had phoned the room to make sure everything was alright. sounded good. i gave him 200 pesos and we agreed that we'the talk again.
the girl.
i exited the hotel and the girl – let's call her paola – was jumping up and down like a lunatic, happy to see me. after she'the helped me, i could hardly tell her to f*ck off, so i decided to take her for a drink. she was slim, decent-looking, so i thought why not. at least i'the be able to see some of the girls in the other bars to check out the talent. a few meters down the road and we're in hussy's bar. it's a middle-sized bar with loud music and lots of girls. two meters in the door and it was like an avalanche. 10, 15 girls descend upon me, rubbing me up, shoulder massages, hands under my shirt and all kinds of chatter. it was like paola wasn't even there. in fact she wasn't – she was adjusting her sandles in the doorway. no other customers in sight. i ordered two drinks above the cacophony, paola comes in and the girls back off, but only slightly. there were tall, short, slim, chubby, older and younger girls. a couple of them had tattoos. a real motley crew. i got in a bit of banter but nothing really caught my eye. paola went to the toilet and pretty much straight away one of the girls comes up beside me and shows me one of her tits. it seemed like good fun in there, but i wanted to move on. next stop butterfly bar, a couple of minutes in the same direction on the other side of the road. wtf? almost nobody in there. probably more staff than punters or girls. i said sorry and backed out of the door right after i went in. paola and i continue walking down del pilar. she's asking all kinds of questions and nattering on about this that and the other. it makes a change from indonesia or cambodia, where hardly any of the girls speak much english. we go into amazonia next, which is on the same side as butterfly bar. this is more to my liking. quite a big place with upstairs and downstairs, lots of girls, similar variety to hussy's bar i suppose. we stayed there for a while and i scoped the joint out. a couple of girls caught my eye (and i caught theirs) and i made a mental note to come back. all of the girls here seemed to be freelancers – i found this out while paola made another [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-stop (i would have felt strange making enquiries in front of her). having rtff, i knew that freelancers were not a good idea in angeles and here i was in ermita in a freelancer bar, in the middle of a pub crawl with another freelancer. geez. i would have to ask reggie back at duck's inn about this later.
two drinks at amazonia, and we're off again in the same direction down del pilar, basically south. next stop bay café, though paola insisted it was called la café (when i mentioned bay café later that night, she just looked at me blankly). before i went to bay café, i was feeling a bit down on the quality on offer and thinking about what i was going to do for the next three days. that all changed about five seconds after i walked in the door. i figured this must be the premier venue in ermita. a big bar area with different sections and a big upstairs area. most importantly, the place is just wall-to-wall pussy, and a lot of it top-notch. there were some some real stunners in there and plenty of eye contact. paola looked like a real plonker in there to be honest, though she was competitive in the other places. i stayed there for three or four beers and had a good look around. every time either paola or i went to the toilet, i chatted up (or was chatted up by) the better talent. a good thing to do would have been to hand out numbers and emails to reserve for later but maybe next time.
we left bay café ate about 3am and headed back to the duck's inn. reggie was waiting there and pulled me aside when paola made yet another toilet visit. 'have you arranged a price yet? ' he said. i replied that i hadn't. 'ask her a price but don't accept more than 1000 pesos'. i was shocked by this. i was expecting 1500, maybe 2000. i asked when she came back and she said 2000 pesos. i said, 'i'll give you a thousand' and she said ok without a blink. nice work reggie. i would talk to him again.
took her upstairs, showered together and got down to a good session. following reggie's advice, i put all my sh*t in the room safe beforehand. despite all the grog, i had no trouble getting it up and she was enthusiastic enough, if a little too giggly. long bbbj, but i was a bit wary on daty so didn't do it. she didn't seem to care. covered up and f*cked in loads of different positions. it took me a long time to cum, but i finally let it all out with a window-shattering roar. quick shower again and then fell asleep pretty much instantly.
and then came the morning. she woke me up at 7 o'clock and we f*cked again (always covered) , this time a bit faster, but the same routine with multiple positions. i had my eyes closed for most of it, i was so sleepy, though my cock was wide awake. a quick wash off and back to sleep again. woken to another bbbj at 10 o'clock, i just laid back and let her work. probably a bit too quick on the action for my liking, but eventually i rolled her over and dropped a load all over those little brown tits of hers. 1000 pesos in hand and off she went, with a smile on her face. my trip had begun.
ps: sorry if this report is a bit long. i just wanted to add include the "first impression" element.
dez
Dezzy Haynes
05-17-11, 19:15
Day 2: The Threesome.
I left the Duck Inn at around 11am on Day 2 and decided to do a bit of exploring. My original plan was to go to Angeles in the afternoon, but I booked in for one more night in Ermita. I was encouraged enough by what I had seen the night before to think that it was worth hanging around. It was a bit early to do bars, and I felt like walking around a bit and enjoying the hot sun. It had been a while. I walked all the way to Intramuros, then from there got a cab to Pasay to check out the cockfighting. There was blood, gore, gambling and a few hundred screaming Filipino men. Not a bad show and worth a trip if you're there on a Sunday. Headed back to the hotel late afternoon to change, and then decided to explore Ermita a bit. I walked all down Del Pilar, over to Robinson shopping center, down Adriatico and back. There were a few bars and other points of interest, but it seemed to me that Del Pilar was where most things were concentrated. I headed back to the hotel early evening and played some pool with some of the punters and listened to their stories and advice. They were very knowledgeable, but not really active mongers anymore. It was still interesting hearing about how Ermita had changed over the years though.
At around 8, I headed out to find a good spot to watch the football (EPL). Unlike in Thailand or Indo, noone seems to give a sh*t about football in Manila, and if you ask for football, they point you to a screen showing Rugby League or AFL. But nae bother. Funnily enough, it was Amazonia (where I had been the previous night) that had the EPL on TV, so it was there that I settled in for a drink in the evening. I didn't know at the time, but I was in for the long haul. There were already a few girls when I arrived, but it really started to fill up after I got there. I mean it was really packed. The bartender told me that the US Navy was expected in town that night; 8000 sailors off an aircraft carrier, possibly the reason for the big numbers. Unless admission requirements have become really lax, none of the punters in Amazonia were navy though. All the more choice for me I suppose. Anyway, it was actually good that I was there for the football; the staff pretty much told the girls to leave me alone so I could have a good look around and scope out the talent. My girl the previous night had been a bit too young and giggly. I decided I might try for a threesome and having RTFF, I knew that young combos weren't always the best performers in that arrangement. I would have a good look around and bide my time a bit.
Time wore on a bit. The early game had finished and there was a 20-minute gap to the next one. I was drinking jugs of rum and coke (235 pesos a pop – not bad) and was just polishing off my second one when I thought I might choose some company for the third. What I wanted was a real performer and a friend that would go with her and participate; not some one at a time while the other watches TV crap. I had to choose carefully. Nothing really caught my eye until downstairs walks a girl I had missed earlier. Maybe early 30s (she claimed 30) , short, torn denim jeans, booby top, pencilled-on eyebrows and a visible tattoo on her left breast. She basically looked as horny as f*ck. Lots of mutual eye contact and without breaking eye contact, she walks over to her friend a few meters away, grabs her behind and slides her tongue over her lips. Yep, we have a winner there I think. She yanks her friend by the arm and over they come, introducing themselves as Rosita (hot one) and Malaya (friend). Two extra glasses and they're into the rum. Lots of chat, how long you here, how long you stay etc and lots of touchy feely play. Rosita suggests a threesome and I asked her how could I be sure that it would be a real threesome. While staring at me, she moves closer to Malaya and runs her tongue down her ear, whilst caressing one of her breasts. Not bad. Malaya is a little older, early thirties by my estimate (turns out to be 36) , tall and slim. Good-looking, but I'm much more interested in Rosita.
Things start getting a bit intimate at the bar. Hands are under clothes and there is some mutual snogging going on; we decide to move to the upstairs bar for the next jug of rum and coke. The upstairs bar at Amazonia is pretty spacious and they also have a pool table. There is noone else up here; strange considering how crowded it is downstairs. The staff come up and kindly turn on the telly and switch channels for me just in time to see Arsenal two goals down inside 15 minutes. I was starting to lose interest in the football though. We play some pool and eventually it's just the two of them playing. The basic routine was that while one was taking her shot, I snogged the other one and we basically went at it. With Malaya it's kind of perfunctory, but Rosita is really pushing all my buttons. When Malaya is in the bathroom, I pull Rosita around the corner of the upstairs bar (completely out of sight) and within a minute, my hard cock's in her mouth and her tits are out on display. I'm kind of starting to wish it was just one on one here; Malaya has a nice body and all and looks good, but Rosita is so f*cking hot (I put that thought out of my head and carry on).
We head back to the hotel and Reggie (head security) is there waiting. He looks very unimpressed with my selection and gives me them a stern once over. They go inside and sit down and he says to me, 'That one (Malaya) is ok, the other one (Rosita) is no good. Be careful. ' I slip him 200 pesos just like the previous night. I kind of want to hear more about this so I order one more round in the Duck Inn, hoping to have another quick chat with Reggie. He's by the entrance and I'm at the bar with the girls. Pricing for a threesome comes up in our conversation and at that point, the ladies get into a good cop / bad cop routine with Malaya talking the numbers and Rosita pretending not to notice. Malaya asks for 3000 each, which I decline right away; Rosita goes to the toilet and Malaya says 'OK. 2000 each. OK? ' I say I don't know, I'll think about it. I start to think that things are breaking down here and just then, Reggie calls me over. I excuse myself. He says to me, 'If you like that girl take her, but put everything in the safe. Don't trust her. Drugs, you know. And you should pay 1500 each. If they don't accept, tell me and I throw them out. ' He seemed really protective, but I still want the girl. I go back to table and whisper. 'OK, let's go. 1500 each, yeah? '. To my amazement, they both agree. Good advice again. I go to the bathroom and come back and all hell has broken loose in the bar. Reggie and Rosita are arguing toe to toe. She's forgotten her identification and he's p*ssed off. I calm the scene, say it's ok, and then take precautions back in the room. Of course I could be wrong, but I don't have the feeling there'll be trouble. We finally go upstairs.
Showers all round and into it. Intuition tells me I should f*ck the one I'm less attracted to first in case I lose my mojo second time around, so after some group play on the bed, I cover up and I'm into Malaya. We change positions to doggie and Rosita is underneath licking my nuts as I f*ck Malaya from behind. Nice. I put Malaya on her back and go into Rosita. She's into it right away. I line them up because I want to go in and out, but Malaya isn't having any of it. I can swap from Malaya to Rosita but not the other way around. Oh well, it was good while it lasted. I change condoms and finish in Malaya after a while, snogging Rosita the whole time. Quick showers and off to sleep.
Malaya wakes me up at 7am (WTF?) and says she has to leave. No worries. 1500 pesos and see you later. Rosita gives me a cheeky grin from the bed while I'm standing at the door and I forget what time it is and we are at it again. The only concern was that she was happy to go bareback; for this reason I make doubly sure I cover up. It was an aggressive, noisy, sweaty f*ck but to be honest, the tension had been building all night. Changed position a few times, very rough and physical and at the end I rip off the condom and cum all over her tits. Shower and sleep.
We woke up at 9, f*cked again (more of the same) ordered room service and watched a bit of telly. We talked a lot, she told me a lot about her life. She has had a few tough times, but I don't think she's a bad person. I enjoyed her company actually, even just to talk to. We had one more go, a bit slower this time and then we leave the hotel together at about 1pm. I gave her 2000 pesos, maybe a bit much, but she deserved more than Malaya. There was no trouble in the room, nothing missing and everything was ok. I decided at this point though that I would be a bit more choosy about who I brought back next time. I had probably been a bit lucky the last couple of days.
Two drinks at Amazonia, and we're off again in the same direction down Del Pilar, basically south. Next stop Bay Café, though Paola insisted it was called LA Café (when I mentioned Bay Café later that night, she just looked at me blankly).
DezYou did really well for someone who had no idea where he was.
The LA Café was a mainstay for many years and you are correct that it is the biggest, best place in Ermita. After it was busted last year it reopened with a new name: the Manila Bay Café. The word "Manila" on the sign is smaller and doesn't stand out well at night.
Charlie Horse
05-18-11, 00:39
PS: Sorry if this report is a bit long. I just wanted to add include the "first impression" element.
DezGreat report!
Jack James
05-18-11, 01:19
Just curious. To follow up on that theme. Are any of these strip clubs? I've been going to Makati for 15 years, only went to a strip club once or twice about 10 years ago, and then it seemed they went out of style (mostly because you can see tits just about anywhere). Plus. I can sense they always see the "white" guy coming. And jack up the prices (sure they may do that in many places. But especially here).
So, my point was this: what are the strip clubs in Manila? Are they stripping at the KTVs now? I always figured those places to be for Asian men. I don't go there as rule of thumb.
Thanks,
LalakeI can not remember the name of the club that is why I call it the Russian club. It is a good 10 minute walk from the boxing club (ringside) I have only just started going to makati as I normally spend my time in angles. When I was there my last trip the club is set up like a k. T. V. Club. But when I was there they had the most beautiful philippino girls that I have ever seen working at any club that I have been to in the Philippines. I was talking to a girl there and she was the one that told me it was only aloud to strip there and you could not barfine them. I found it very strange to that you could not barfine them as well. As we know money talks there everything has its price. The other thing to the Russian girls where beautiful as well. Iam heading back there late June, early July iam going to try my hardest to see if I can barfine a girl from there they are beautiful there if anyone goes there in the meantime keep me posted if you have any success. Good luck
KickAss report "Dezzy Haynes"
I'm packing my bags for Manila.
I can not remember the name of the club that is why I call it the Russian club. It is a good 10 minute walk from the boxing club (ringside) I have only just started going to makati as I normally spend my time in angles. When I was there my last trip the club is set up like a k. T. V. Club. But when I was there they had the most beautiful philippino girls that I have ever seen working at any club that I have been to in the Philippines. I was talking to a girl there and she was the one that told me it was only aloud to strip there and you could not barfine them. I found it very strange to that you could not barfine them as well. As we know money talks there everything has its price. The other thing to the Russian girls where beautiful as well. Iam heading back there late June, early July iam going to try my hardest to see if I can barfine a girl from there they are beautiful there if anyone goes there in the meantime keep me posted if you have any success. Good luckI had taken a girl from a KTV place through a Phi friend of mine. It is true most of the girls are pretty there because they hire only pretty faces. Most desired is Chinese features. Bodywise they all flaunt big chests but in reality I think they are padded bras. The girl I took also had padded bras.
The girl I took told me all the pretty girls have boyfriends in high places. Many have rich, inflential sugar daddies. They get invited to high end social functions and sometimes to exclusive mens clubs to socialize. How far it is true, I do not know. This girl I took told me se has a Lawyer boyfriend who is married. She said her needs are taken care of but she likes to stay busy by working in KTV not knowing how long the BF or the support will last.
Although the girls cannot be barfined as a rule, if the girl likes you and sees there is good money incentive, she might go with you. Mostly Japanese and Korean businessmen are their clients and I am sure some could be their sponsors.
Like anywhere else in the world beauty has its advantages and generally they will be in a higher circle.
Only beatifull girls I found are from provinces who have not learned to exploit their good lucks either by being shy or strict upbringing.
where exactly is hussy's bar. i am very familiar with that area, never heard of it.
thank you.
i'm writing this report as someone with no prior experience in manila. i don't know how useful it will be, but i do think that a newbie's perspective is worth looking at. i made a few mistakes, had a bit of luck and learnt a lot. maybe some other prospective mongerer will learn from my story. for those who are interested, i changed the names of the girls; anyone interested in any of them can pm me.
day 1: the arrival.
i got in at 22:10 from hong kong. i'the been travelling all day and was feeling pretty rooted, but i was pleasantly surprised by the speed of immigration and transport. no check-in luggage, so that definitely helped. barely 40 minutes after i landed, i was standing at the victory liner terminal in pasay, lining up for a bus to dau (cab 200 pesos). the plan was to take a jeepney from there to the action in angeles. but it wasn't to be. all the buses were full, i tried every counter, and the earliest i could get away was 5am. bugger. after a bit of dithering, i decided to get in a cab and go to ermita. maybe i'the do the first night there and see what happened.
got out of the cab (150 pesos) in front of the ermita church, which for those who don't know is situated on m. h. del pilar st. (del pilar for short). this is pretty much the main drag for the action in ermita, and it would be where i would have most of my fun over the next few days. knowledge-wise, i felt a bit vulnerable walking down that street. i'the read every post about angeles on isg, but nothing at all about manila. to make matters worse, i was looking for a hotel too, so i couldn't walk along like i'the been there a hundred times before, as one does in a new destination. and so the sharks began to circle. i stopped for a smoke (mistake) and two or three punters came from nowhere. hello, handsome, where you go etc. one of them was not bad looking, so i accepted her invitation to show me a good hotel. medium-height, slim, brown thing in a tight white top and black hot pants. she showed me a couple of places within the first two minutes and i wasn't keen. a few meters ahead, we came to the duck inn. for me it was perfect. nice little bar downstairs, no escorted girls allowed inside and right in the middle of what i wanted. walked inside, greeted the staff and just had a good feeling right away. paid 1400 (advertised rate) and went up to drop off my bag. came downstairs and walked up to the security guard and asked if i could talk to him. he took me to a corner of the bar and i ordered a drink. i noticed that the girl who had brought me there was waiting outside on the street, but i wasn't in a big hurry. from my experiences elsewhere, i knew it was a good idea to make friends with the security dude right away. the girl could wait. the security guard's name was reggie, and he was a wealth of info. he said he worked from 9 till 7, he checked all of the ids, and no girl could leave the hotel until security (or reception) had phoned the room to make sure everything was alright. sounded good. i gave him 200 pesos and we agreed that we'the talk again.
the girl.
i exited the hotel and the girl – let's call her paola – was jumping up and down like a lunatic, happy to see me. after she'the helped me, i could hardly tell her to f*ck off, so i decided to take her for a drink. she was slim, decent-looking, so i thought why not. at least i'the be able to see some of the girls in the other bars to check out the talent. a few meters down the road and we're in hussy's bar. it's a middle-sized bar with loud music and lots of girls. two meters in the door and it was like an avalanche. 10, 15 girls descend upon me, rubbing me up, shoulder massages, hands under my shirt and all kinds of chatter. it was like paola wasn't even there. in fact she wasn't – she was adjusting her sandles in the doorway. no other customers in sight. i ordered two drinks above the cacophony, paola comes in and the girls back off, but only slightly. there were tall, short, slim, chubby, older and younger girls. a couple of them had tattoos. a real motley crew. i got in a bit of banter but nothing really caught my eye. paola went to the toilet and pretty much straight away one of the girls comes up beside me and shows me one of her tits. it seemed like good fun in there, but i wanted to move on. next stop butterfly bar, a couple of minutes in the same direction on the other side of the road. wtf? almost nobody in there. probably more staff than punters or girls. i said sorry and backed out of the door right after i went in. paola and i continue walking down del pilar. she's asking all kinds of questions and nattering on about this that and the other. it makes a change from indonesia or cambodia, where hardly any of the girls speak much english. we go into amazonia next, which is on the same side as butterfly bar. this is more to my liking. quite a big place with upstairs and downstairs, lots of girls, similar variety to hussy's bar i suppose. we stayed there for a while and i scoped the joint out. a couple of girls caught my eye (and i caught theirs) and i made a mental note to come back. all of the girls here seemed to be freelancers – i found this out while paola made another [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-stop (i would have felt strange making enquiries in front of her). having rtff, i knew that freelancers were not a good idea in angeles and here i was in ermita in a freelancer bar, in the middle of a pub crawl with another freelancer. geez. i would have to ask reggie back at duck's inn about this later.
two drinks at amazonia, and we're off again in the same direction down del pilar, basically south. next stop bay café, though paola insisted it was called la café (when i mentioned bay café later that night, she just looked at me blankly). before i went to bay café, i was feeling a bit down on the quality on offer and thinking about what i was going to do for the next three days. that all changed about five seconds after i walked in the door. i figured this must be the premier venue in ermita. a big bar area with different sections and a big upstairs area. most importantly, the place is just wall-to-wall pussy, and a lot of it top-notch. there were some some real stunners in there and plenty of eye contact. paola looked like a real plonker in there to be honest, though she was competitive in the other places. i stayed there for three or four beers and had a good look around. every time either paola or i went to the toilet, i chatted up (or was chatted up by) the better talent. a good thing to do would have been to hand out numbers and emails to reserve for later but maybe next time.
we left bay café ate about 3am and headed back to the duck's inn. reggie was waiting there and pulled me aside when paola made yet another toilet visit. 'have you arranged a price yet? ' he said. i replied that i hadn't. 'ask her a price but don't accept more than 1000 pesos'. i was shocked by this. i was expecting 1500, maybe 2000. i asked when she came back and she said 2000 pesos. i said, 'i'll give you a thousand' and she said ok without a blink. nice work reggie. i would talk to him again.
took her upstairs, showered together and got down to a good session. following reggie's advice, i put all my sh*t in the room safe beforehand. despite all the grog, i had no trouble getting it up and she was enthusiastic enough, if a little too giggly. long bbbj, but i was a bit wary on daty so didn't do it. she didn't seem to care. covered up and f*cked in loads of different positions. it took me a long time to cum, but i finally let it all out with a window-shattering roar. quick shower again and then fell asleep pretty much instantly.
and then came the morning. she woke me up at 7 o'clock and we f*cked again (always covered) , this time a bit faster, but the same routine with multiple positions. i had my eyes closed for most of it, i was so sleepy, though my cock was wide awake. a quick wash off and back to sleep again. woken to another bbbj at 10 o'clock, i just laid back and let her work. probably a bit too quick on the action for my liking, but eventually i rolled her over and dropped a load all over those little brown tits of hers. 1000 pesos in hand and off she went, with a smile on her face. my trip had begun.
ps: sorry if this report is a bit long. i just wanted to add include the "first impression" element.
dez
Why would anyone travel to the Philippines to hunt white beaver? I'm sure the cost is way above that for the native species.I don't get that as well but some people I guess like to mix it up. When I barhop on burgos I stop at davinos to say Hi to one of my ex regs that worked as a waitress there. To be honest I enjoyed the way the waitresses were dressed up more then the the ex USSR see team. Those that are in the area and want white beaver get on a cheep flight to BKK or Ichon and then onto Vladivostok.
Dezzy Haynes
05-19-11, 05:03
Where exactly is Hussy's Bar. I am very familiar with that area, never heard of it.
Thank youNo worries man. If you walk out the front door of the Duck Inn and turn right, Hussy's Bar is on the same side about 30 meters down the road. Dark glass windows and door; you can't see in unless the girls open the door (which they always do). The name of the bar is in big fluoro letters on the main window.
It's right on Del Pilar and if you keep walking in that direction, you end up at Manila Bay Cafe.
It's a pretty prominent fixture on the main drag. I don't think you'd be able to walk past and miss it. Considering you know the area well, it must be either new or recently renamed.
Dezzy Haynes
05-19-11, 05:08
KickAss report "Dezzy Haynes"
I'm packing my bags for Manila.
Great report!Thanks fellas. Days 3 and 4 up in a couple of days. I'll try to cut back on the length a bit!
Cheers,
Dez
Dezzy Haynes
05-19-11, 05:14
You did really well for someone who had no idea where he was.
The LA Café was a mainstay for many years and you are correct that it is the biggest, best place in Ermita. After it was busted last year it reopened with a new name: the Manila Bay Café. The word "Manila" on the sign is smaller and doesn't stand out well at night.Thanks man. It wasn't actually that hard because I basically stayed on the same street the whole night. The cabbie dropped me off in front of the church up one end of Del Pilar and I basically just headed in one direction up that street until I decided to backtrack to my hotel and call it a night.
The whole bar naming thing makes sense now. Come to think of it. I do remember some cursive writing on the Bay Cafe sign; this must have been the word "Manila". You're right, it doesn't stand out well at night. I can definitely say that the place is still rocking under a new name. Thanks for the info!
Dez
Burgos is GOGO Bars, not typical strip clubs. Girls dance in swimsuits. In some places they get wild a bit more then in others, if you buy them a drink or two then anything goes. Saturday night with couple of friends we bought a bottle of tequila in Rogues and I had 5 girls giving me a blowjob, my friend ended up in the "secret" room with one of them and then around 4am we got the knock knock in the hotel for more fun for 500 peso a pop. Bottom line is anything goes as long as you can shell the money. IMO it wasn't the best way to spend a night (bill at Rogues was around 11K) but one of the guys was on his first mongering trip so we wanted to easy him into it LOL.
As for strip clubs there are few here and there but they are mostly for locals. I have been to few here and there but it feels weird as you are usually the only white dude there and all girls after they finish their dance first come to you so you will feel the eyes of everyone in the club very quickly.
KTV's are not my thing unless in Baguio.
Just curious. To follow up on that theme. Are any of these strip clubs? I've been going to Makati for 15 years, only went to a strip club once or twice about 10 years ago, and then it seemed they went out of style (mostly because you can see tits just about anywhere). Plus. I can sense they always see the "white" guy coming. And jack up the prices (sure they may do that in many places. But especially here).
So, my point was this: what are the strip clubs in Manila? Are they stripping at the KTVs now? I always figured those places to be for Asian men. I don't go there as rule of thumb.
Thanks,
Lalake
I don't get that as well but some people I guess like to mix it up. When I barhop on burgos I stop at davinos to say Hi to one of my ex regs that worked as a waitress there. To be honest I enjoyed the way the waitresses were dressed up more then the the ex USSR see team. Those that are in the area and want white beaver get on a cheep flight to BKK or Ichon and then onto Vladivostok.I didn't see anything in the ISG Russia section about Vladivostok; maybe I'm missing something?
Where exactly is Hussy's Bar. I am very familiar with that area, never heard of it.
Thank you. Editing and snips are appreciate.
Slim
Hussys is about a block or block and a half east of MBC on the same side of the street.
No need to cut back on your length, some information you might otherwise leave out could be helpful! Thanks so much for taking the time.
I don't want to spend 4500 plus for a room so I am very interested in Duck Inn. Any cock roach problem that you saw? That is the only negative I read, but the review was a few years old.
Thanks for the effort and keep the reports coming.
Dezzy Haynes
05-19-11, 23:11
No need to cut back on your length, some information you might otherwise leave out could be helpful! Thanks so much for taking the time.
I don't want to spend 4500 plus for a room so I am very interested in Duck Inn. Any cock roach problem that you saw? That is the only negative I read, but the review was a few years old.
Thanks for the effort and keep the reports coming. Alright mate, thanks for the kind words. Day 3 will be along shortly.
As for Duck Inn, what can I say? I was very satisfied with every aspect of this place. 1400 a night and all the staff are great. The bar staff are friendly, housekeeping is great and they look after your room every day, the security is really good. In fact, it's it's perfect. For starters, there is a room safe and there is also a narrow entrance to the hotel / bar guarded by security 24 hours, they make sure you're ok before any girls leave. The head security guy was like a brother; he really looked after everything.
Aside from that, I enjoyed the banter from the punters in Duck Inn. I played them at pool and chatted about stuff. Most of them were long term residents passing through Manila; I never met any short-term punters like myself.
The rooms were clean, no living things to be seen apart from girls when I brought them back (no cockroaches). The hotels rules say that you can bring back a maximum of two girls at a time, but the head security guy said I could add to that if I wanted (I didn't LOL). I paid 1400 a night, plus I tipped security 200 and housekeeping 50 pesos a day. So you could say I paid 1650 a day. If you're wondering about the tips, it was definitely worth it.
I only hope this review doesn't drive up the prices at Duck Inn because all the punters want to stay there. I'd definitely recommend it.
Thank you.
I have walked up and down DP so many times my feet were sore. Of course this was last year. Will check it out.
No worries man. If you walk out the front door of the Duck Inn and turn right, Hussy's Bar is on the same side about 30 meters down the road. Dark glass windows and door; you can't see in unless the girls open the door (which they always do). The name of the bar is in big fluoro letters on the main window.
It's right on Del Pilar and if you keep walking in that direction, you end up at Manila Bay Cafe.
It's a pretty prominent fixture on the main drag. I don't think you'd be able to walk past and miss it. Considering you know the area well, it must be either new or recently renamed.
Dezzy Haynes
05-19-11, 23:51
Thank you.
I have walked up and down DP so many times my feet were sore. Of course this was last year. Will check it out.Man, you're welcome. I'm sitting at home now and I would love to walk down DP again. F*ck! What a street. Worth a look. The thing that surprises me is that Hussy's Bar looks pretty well-established. It doesn't look like a new place at all. Anyway, check it out man.
Dezzy Haynes
05-20-11, 00:46
The first thing I decided on Day 3 was to stay in Ermita. I was already past check-out time anyway, so I booked in for two more nights and gave up on Angeles. That had been my original plan, but I knew I would go there some day anyway. I left the hotel with Rosita and headed up Del Pilar in the direction of Manila Bay Café. We said our goodbyes and I walked towards Robinson, a big shopping center a block away from Del Pilar. I was looking a bit ragged, so I stopped along the way to get a haircut and shave (250 pesos). Enjoyed the aircon and got everything done, but this new look would have implications later (read on). Went into Robinson and I bought a big bag of fresh fruit and veggies from the supermarket, then I went back to the hotel, borrowed a knife from the kitchen and chopped it all up and had a mini-feast in my room. Fantastic guys, well worth it. Steer clear of that Jollibee and Pizza Hut crap if you can. Had a wee rest and at around 3pm, headed out to do some exploring.
Committed to Ermita now, I decided to get to know the place even more. I had already walked around a lot, but today I thought I would go into all the places I had walked past before to check everything out. I walked up Del Pilar, back towards the church, to see what was on the other side. There is another cluster of bars on the northern end of Del Pilar, and I went into to a few of them. Here's a summary of each:
Whispers: Dark windows, you don't see what you get until you walk in. A bit like Hussy's Bar on the inside, though a few less girls. Nothing to look at. Strange listening to techno when it's 33 degrees outside. Wasn't my cup of tea so I had one drink and left.
Southern Cross: Crossed the road and went into this bar. Surprisingly crowded for mid afternoon, but there was an Australian rugby league match starting later, and a boatload of punters were there to watch. Quite a few unaccompanied girls there and I chatted to a few and bought one a drink. Was not interested in taking any of them (and told them I had plans) ; they were cool with that so I just enjoyed the banter. This seemed like a good bar to chat to girls without any pressure. NB: On a side note, definitely the best-looking bar staff of any bar in Ermita. F*cking amazing. Kudos to the owner if ever you read this; you're a master recruiter. Two beers here and left.
Slouch Hat: Crossed the street again and went into this bar. It's basically next to Whispers (see above). Only a couple of girls here; it seemed like an ordinary bar. Everyone was very friendly though and enthusiastic and the staff asked lots of questions and chatted to me. The only weird thing was that everyone thought I was with The US Navy. An aircraft carrier had pulled in the previous day, though I hadn't seen any of them yet. With my haircut, polo shirt and shorts, I looked more like a gym teacher than a regular punter. That would come up again later.
Swagman Hotel: Backtracked down Del Pilar and took a detour down Flores Street. I came across a tiny little bar called the Swagman, which is part of a hotel. Not a girl in sight (apart from the bartender) , but the place was packed with beer-swilling Australian punters. This little bar is plastered with Australian sports paraphernalia and the accents are to be heard to be believed. Think Bryan Brown, Graeme Marsh and Alf Stewart plus four or five of their mates. They all sat there and talked about mongering in the Philippines. Honestly, there should be a sign out the front with a big 'I' on it, because this wasn't a bar; this was the monger's information center. They had been to every corner of the Philippines and had loads of advice. It was a real sitting around the campfire kind of experience. Key points I picked up:
1. Drink San Miguel Light, not full strength, if you're exploring. Otherwise you'll be smashed before you see everything.
2. Check out the bars on Mabini Street.
3. Don't talk to any touts on the street.
I followed all three pretty well. I left the bar reluctantly and it was getting dark when I called back into the hotel for a quick shower and change.
Came down to the bar at the Duck Inn just before 8 and I'm surprised to see Reggie (head security) at the bar in his civvies. I slip him another 200 pesos for his sound advice the previous night and he nods gratefully. He then says that he's busy tonight, but proposes that we hit the town together the following night. I accept straight away and make arrangements to meet at 7 in the bar. I trust this guy, and tomorrow is set.
Following the Swagman crew's advice, I make a beeline for Mabini Street when exiting the bar, more specifically the northern end behind the church (Mabini runs parallel to Ermita Church; the church is basically on both Del Pilar and Mabini. Here we have a few bars alongside each other. They all have a set up where there the girls sit together and you choose one to have a drink with or take out. It's a different set-up to the other bars I had been in.
Red Rooster: Not a bad place, about 15 girls all lined up. A bit of a mixed bag. I was quoted 3000 all night and invited to choose one. I smiled and shook my head (you've got to be kidding). There was a bit of resistance and then magically they quote 2000 pesos from now until 9am. I pretend to be mildly interested, finish my drink and say I'll think about it. I'm put off a bit by their pricing routine.
Red Garter: Right next door is the Red Garter. I like the atmosphere here; friendly staff and punters, live bistro-style music and not too much pressure. I look around but prices don't come up. Some possibilities here, but I have more errands to run.
Gold Coast: Standout talent in Ermita. Almost all of them are absolute stunners. Same deal, lots of girls sit on one side of the bar and you're supposed to choose. The papasan comes up and says that every girl in a white t-shirt is fair game (virtually all of them).2000 pesos for the night. I'm tempted to take one there and then, but I hold off, finish my beer and leave.
I've got a bit of a glow up now, so I start to wander a bit off the beaten track. I went into two more places before heading back to the hotel.
Bistro: Not sure exactly where this was, but within a couple of minutes off Mabini Street, further away from Del Pilar. Reasonably big place, lots of girls to choose from on the couch. All Filipino punters apart from me. Same deal. 2000 pesos all night. I liked the attitude of the staff here, very polite and welcoming. It is co-run by two brothers named Ruben and Raul. I had my mind on the Gold Coast Bar though, so I left after one drink.
JAPLAC: It's on the next street over from Mabini, parallel to both Mabini and Del Pilar. This place is a bit different. It looks like something out of a movie; everything is in kitschy red, from the carpets to the numerous plush sofas. The range of girls is extraordinary. The mamasan tells me, 'All beautiful girls, just different kinds of beauty. ' Very true words. There is one half-Chinese, one half-Saudi, one half-Malaysian and various other shades, ages and sizes. Most of them fairly decent. One of them is smoking a cigarette, and I call her over for a lady drink. Tall, slim and fair; a top-notch bird really. We order drinks and I tell her the reason I chose her was that she is a smoker; she tells me she can smoke other things really well too and points to my cock. We had a good chat but I wanted to move on. I made my way back to the Duck Inn.
Showered again and looked in the mirror. I was well over half-smashed. I must have had about 10 or 15 beers already. I went down to the bar and ordered a pot of tea and sat there sipping it for half an hour and read the news, trying to sober up. The fog in my head lifted somewhat and eventually I made a fast beeline down the street to the Manila Bay Café.
Entered the bar and mosied on in, lots of eye contact and hellos. There must have been at least 30 US Navy in the bar plus 50-60 girls; all the navy guys were 10 or 15 years younger than me. I had my new haircut and neatly-pressed Seattle Mariners polo shirt on; I looked like the bloody supervisor LOL. Did a tour of the bar, went out to the back bar, went upstairs and generally had a good look around. Pulled up a chair at the main bar and ordered a rum and coke. A young navy fella pulls up beside me and asks very politely if he can sit down; I say yes of course and we have a bit of chat. Eventually his navy mates join us and we're all talking together. Very friendly, decent folk and incredibly polite. They call me 'sir', which I find hilarious without telling them. They ask advice and I pass on my limited knowledge. The thing about these navy guys is that a lot of them are drinking amongst themselves and just talking about the girls instead of approaching them. This is not an aggressive bar like Hussy's or Amazonia so it's possible to actually do that. Anyway, the second drink comes and I'm looking around a bit more; I spot a lonely young thing further on down the bar. I decide to pick up my drink and go and sit with her.
She looks very relieved when I sit down and say Hello. Her name is Lisa, and she tells me she lives in Sumpaloc (?). That name would come up again, but I have no idea where that is, and I lose track quickly when she explains. She seems a bit shy and there isn't much eye contact going on. It's mainly me asking questions and she is answering. She is quite talkative, provided the questions keep coming. From her side, she asks me nothing; I even have to volunteer my name and where I'm from. Her English is really superb; she has kind of an American accent. She is really shy about certain questions. She won't tell me if she has a boyfriend or how often she comes to this bar, but she is happy to explain things about the Philippines. She is actually the first person to coherently explain linguistic differences between regions, something even the Swagman folk couldn't manage. I change tack and just ask random questions to pique my curiosity about the country. It was very informative and I enjoyed it. She tells me she is studying, hopes to be finished in the middle of next year and wants to live abroad after that. She is just plain nice; she is drinking coke and I don't even smoke in front of her. Halfway through my third beer, I ask her if she would like to come back to my hotel and she looks very embarrassed and just nods. I down my drink as discreetly as possible and out we go.
We are holding hands as we walk down Del Pilar back towards Duck Inn. This is the first time I've had a good look at her. She has kind of a mane of a hairstyle; it's not quite shoulder-length but not short either. Medium-height, smallish boobs and very nice legs. She had a very pretty face and smiled almost constantly. I start to wonder what the f*ck I'm doing; she isn't my type at all and I usually go for the wild type (see Day 2) but as I do, I just press on. I feel like I should be taking her to meet my parents rather than back to a monger's hotel, but we edge forward on Del Pilar.
Back to the hotel and Reggie is nowhere to be seen; damn as I'm sure he would have approved. IDs are checked and off we go. She wants to shower alone so I wait on the bed and watch TV. She is kind enough to leave the door open so I witness a long preparation ritual, including showering, drying, tooth brushing, contact lense removal and something involving face cream that seemed to last forever. My turn, and I shower, dry and brush inside three minutes. Straight onto the bed, towels discarded, some gentle kissing and into DATY. I felt like I was 20 years old again; it was like a make out session when the folks were away. Anyway, I couldn't make her cum, so I changed tack and just slided up, covered up and entered her slowly, kissing her slowly. She moaned with pleasure and closed her eyes; I actually think she genuinely enjoyed it. Flipped her over to cowgirl, but after a minute I felt my cock starting to soften, so I switched back to missionary and finished as quickly as I could. Quick shower off (this time together) and asleep in seconds.
For the only time in the Philippines, I woke up first and had to prod the girl into action. She was sleepy but willing, this time she had her eyes closed, which reminded me of my own performance on Day 1 LOL. Condom on, I'm doing her from behind when I sense a serious lack of interest from my cock. Still hard, but there is no way I'm cumming any time soon. I go a bit faster, which doesn't help, and finally I pretend to cum and just cuddle up to her for a minute. I get up and discreetly remove the condom and throw it in the bathroom trash. WTF? I'm not that attracted to her because of the whole girl-next-door routine, but I didn't think this would happen. Seven f*cks from the first two days and now just one from day three. It was a bit of a worry, but I hid my concerns. We both wash up and talk a bit. I give her 1500 pesos and walk her to the front door of the hotel. This was the first time Reggie wasn't around to advise on price, but I just went on what he had said previously. She seemed happy with it though, and off she went.
WestCoast1
05-20-11, 02:07
I don't want to spend 4500 plus for a room so I am very interested in Duck Inn. Any cock roach problem that you saw? That is the only negative I read, but the review was a few years old.Few blocks away for about the same price as Duck Inn is Southern Cross Hotel, similar quality I think. Has safety deposit box in the room, p1500 or so. They also have a 2x-daily bus that runs to AC.
Soapy Smith
05-20-11, 04:26
Hussys is about a block or block and a half east of MBC on the same side of the street.Sorry to nit-pick, but it's roughly North / Northwest of MBC. I don't know how long it has been there, but it's not brand new. When I was on del Pilar last July it was definitely there then.
Sorry to nit-pick, but it's roughly North / Northwest of MBC. I don't know how long it has been there, but it's not brand new. When I was on del Pilar last July it was definitely there then.That is great info from that trip report. I thought I new the area fairly well but obviously not. I will definitely check out that bar soon. Just goes to show you how valuable everyone's contributions to ISG can be.
Cheers
I didn't see anything in the ISG Russia section about Vladivostok; maybe I'm missing something?If you seek you shall find. Read the forum, action is concentrated around few hotels and due to law enforcement issues people don't mention names but read the forum, info is there otherwise contact me on pvt, I am back home next week and can give you more info.
That is great info from that trip report. I thought I new the area fairly well but obviously not. I will definitely check out that bar soon. Just goes to show you how valuable everyone's contributions to ISG can be.
CheersAnother good bar in the area is Socialista. Easiest way to find all the hotspots is get one of the girls from MBC to show them 2 you. There are many small bars around but my take on it is MBC has the most girls and the best once why bother.
Sorry to nit-pick, but it's roughly North / Northwest of MBC.That's funny. Not a nit-pick Skip.
It is definitely NOT east of MBC but roughly North / Northwest is a useful direction if you use the sun and the hands on your wristwatch (if you can see the sun and you have an analogue face).
I think a block and a half on the same side of the street roughly north / northwest will be most useful. If anyone still cannot find it them maybe they need a labrador in a harness LOL.
I bet someone will give the precise co-ordinates from Google Maps.
Dezzy Haynes
05-20-11, 08:34
Few blocks away for about the same price as Duck Inn is Southern Cross Hotel, similar quality I think. Has safety deposit box in the room, p1500 or so. They also have a 2x-daily bus that runs to AC.Southern Cross is a good place and I really liked it. I mentioned it in my last report.
Possibly a good back-up hotel. I wouldn't stay there as a first choice, only because it's too far up the northern end of Del Pilar. I would prefer Duck Inn because it's more central.
Southern Cross: Crossed the road and went into this bar. Surprisingly crowded for mid afternoon, but there was an Australian rugby league match starting later, and a boatload of punters were there to watch. Quite a few unaccompanied girls there and I chatted to a few and bought one a drink. Was not interested in taking any of them (and told them I had plans) ; they were cool with that so I just enjoyed the banter. This seemed like a good bar to chat to girls without any pressure. NB: On a side note, definitely the best-looking bar staff of any bar in Ermita. F*cking amazing. Kudos to the owner if ever you read this; you're a master recruiter. Two beers here and left.
RasSpewtin
05-20-11, 08:53
Wow Dezzy Haynes, that is one heck of a lot of information to come out of one day's activities. You renewed my interest in Ermita and I made sure to save a PDF of your report for near future reference. Very good reporting, especially for your first visit to the Phils!
Raz
Dezzy Haynes
05-20-11, 09:23
I think a block and a half on the same side of the street roughly north / northwest will be most useful. If anyone still cannot find it them maybe they need a labrador in a harness LOL.LOL Love it! All the chat about the precise location of Hussy's Bar is amazing. It honestly sticks out like dog's knackers. There are a few variations of directions on here (some slightly off) so here they are exactly:
The address is 1227 M. H. Del Pilar Street. Getting there depends on which landmark you're coming from.
Duck Inn: Turn right out the front door, walk straight for about 30 meters and you're standing in front of it. If you get to 711 (also on your right, on a corner) , turn around because you've gone too far.
Manila Bay Cafe: Turn left out the front door and walk 2. 5 blocks up Del Pilar, you'll see it on your left. In case Macgyver is reading this, that's a NNW direction up Del Pilar. If you walk past the Best Western Hotel on your right, turn around because you've gone too far.
I even logged into Google Earth and added it (14. 57727, 120. 980158). I hope this helps.
From the interior, I would say Hussy's has been there for a good while. No idea why it has been missed.
Dezzy Haynes
05-20-11, 09:47
Wow Dezzy Haynes, that is one heck of a lot of information to come out of one day's activities. You renewed my interest in Ermita and I made sure to save a PDF of your report for near future reference. Very good reporting, especially for your first visit to the Phils!
RazWow, I've been been published in PDF eh. Thanks Raz! I appreciate the kind words too. I'm reporting now while it's all still fresh. Glad it's useful for someone. Day 4 (final day) on the way soon.
Day 3 was a bit of a drinkathon. I still remember ordering that pot of tea in the bar at the Duck Inn at 11 O'clock so I could sober up. Must have looked ridiculous. Good times!
I plan my first trip in couple of months, I think September should be the best time and I wonder what else can be done other than mongering?
I will stay in Manila but also wish to visit some other part of the country for 2-3 days, I am thinking Cebu and I would also like to be able to hit the beach a few times.
So I think, maybe 70% mongering, for which I have a wealth of info here, but 30%. Vacation, what do you guys suggest?
Another good bar in the area is Socialista. Easiest way to find all the hotspots is get one of the girls from MBC to show them 2 you. There are many small bars around but my take on it is MBC has the most girls and the best once why bother.I use to just do MBC / LA cafe and Amazonia until a friend showed me G Point and Cowboy Grill. Bar hopping has a lot to do with timing. Timing is everything, you just do not know what you will run into on a given time or day.
My two best finds were Amazonia bar on a very quiet evening. Never to be repeated.
If you notice most of the girls do the circuit from one bar to the next hoping to increase there chances. I would bar hop if I found a keeper but any other time I do not need the baggage.
I will check out that Hussy's out of a perverse curiosity that it may be ok. But like you said the main bars like LA Cafe (sorry its still LA cafe to me) usually have enough variety for most of us and that is where the majority will be.
Cheers
Pinaypounder
05-20-11, 16:33
Lived for a bit in the Phils in 08 & 09, traveled from Baguio to Davoa with varying degrees of success. I am further developing some local green technology again in the Phils.
The economy is worse than most SE Asian countries and the people lazier but they speak english and like all Asians can not say NO.
A top of the line Call Centre worker in Manila makes 16, 000 pesos a month or roughly 400 US dollars.
Every where else in the country the wages are lower for Call Centres and this is the premium job.
A shop girl earns from 275 to 325 pesos a day or roughly 7. 8,000 pesos a month. In the Phils that have a daily minimum sad they do not define what a day is. The only way to survive is to live in a crowded home. So they do enjoy a night in a bed with only 1 man.
The women there are the easiest on the PLANET. They love white meat and the bigger cocks we have I have met several that could be termed nyphomaniacs. Sadly their little pussies can not take that much abuse so you need to rotate them as they need 4. 7 days to heal. Of course this is a wonderful thing as it leads to a rotation, think Major League Pitchers. If you meet one again and she is rested and not anxiuos to fuck time to send her to the Farm. I prefer the carnal ones to the ones that think owning a **** is like an MBA, (the key to their future). Ironically all of us like fucking these women but most would never have a real relationship.
Payi. G a Barfine and then 2. 3000 pesos for a woman is insane. Makati is annoying, A freelancer demanding more than 200 pesos will be the worst sex of your week, a freelancer acting like a true pornstar in the bay 92. 45% of the time will be the worst sex of the month.
I prefer Free lancers or better yet pay $ 50. 00 for a real dating website. Aye Carumba the opportunities abound and I am actually no longer now married so this helps.
A little game, a little being a decent man and free tail is there and they seem to be born wet. The Pinoy treat them like shit so it is easy to be nice.
A 1000 pesos is alot for a woman and she has the added benefit of a big cock, I am a great lover and eat alot of pussy and typicaly a nice guy treating them to some drinks and food, always, always feed them but beware they have no problems with ordering the best thing on the menu so choose wisely, a woman insisting on a great resturant should be released back into the wilds. Fancy dinners should be reserved for special people.
Be nice, ask for sex, it is expected they actually want to FUCK and have orgasms unlike this fucking place where I am forced to live. Treat them well, give them cab fare never make promises you don't intend to keep make them cum and I find 1 in 5 there are natural squirter's and you can fuck them for years! Most I repeat with are married or are dating one of you! Thanks for the maintenance work boys, I like good nails.
I prefer 30+ women to girls as they need and can take more cock and are more pragmatic. I suppose I could fuck more beautiful women but my experiences have proven that there is an indirect corelation between physichal beauty and the ability to truly FUCK. I live to FUCK and pleasure women.
If they are slim, not ugly and don't have bad baby belly (this is a large target market of women who have a shitty life) then I am only to glad to offer some good fun, orgasms and friendship.
DIA offers lots of opportunities and it has the good bad and the fugly. IF they ask for money in the first 5 minutes in anyways then bring in your A game, meet them, fuck them and give them 50 pesos, this group I have no problem breaking my rules for. But they are many good women there deserving proper friendship.
I am back soon and will likely be living there 45% of the time and I can't wait. I may get a vasectomy as you simply can not trust them to address and of course it is OUR responsibility. I have had 2 scares and I do not want kids I can not support or raise. Several have begged me for a baby when they see a picture of my boys as I have beautiful sons but that is irresponsible.
Be nice, be respectful the world is your Oyster and it is leaking pussy juice. Remember Karma rules all!
there are many bars on del pilar and mabini and other streets.
just watch out. some of them hire **** girls. many are just hostess bars in the sense you can drink with her. groping is shied away. going with you depends on the girl. just watch out for the padded bill. they generally overcharge for drinks.
i had gone to couple of bars. one time i took a girl and she was a runner and demanded more money also.
better to stick to mbc / la cafe, amazonia etc who are well known. most of the small bars are for locals only and usually deserted.
Dezzy Haynes
05-20-11, 16:56
I was feeling a bit worse for wear at the start of the final day. After Lisa left, I sat in the bar at the Duck Inn, ordered a big pot of tea, read the papers and had a slow breakfast (chicken and pork adobo for about the third time in my short trip). I went upstairs and showered again and felt a bit better. I left the hotel at 1pm with my main focus just to shake off the cobwebs and be back in time to meet Reggie (security guy from Duck Inn) at 7. Wandered over to Robinson, had a slow look around and bought some coconut juice and some more fruit from the supermarket. I was just taking everything slowly.
I walked for about three hours after that, down Adriatico Street and then up and down Mabini. As on the previous days, there are a lot of touts around, and they offer three things mainly: currency exchange, Viagra and girls. The currency guys all seem to have the same handwritten piece of cardboard with the rates; a couple of quick glances told me that the rates were two or three cents better than the airport and other places, but I never pursued anything. I just smile and shake my head. The guys pushing girls always had a stack of business cards. I sat down for a smoke at one point (mistake) and got the full gamut. One dude rifled through 7 or 8 cards in front of my face and I recognised most of the names, which surprised me. Anyway, I'm not interested in going with touts and I shake them off. There are a few beggars around, but they are not very persistent or troublesome. This was much better than I was expecting. Meandered back to the Duck Inn just after 5 and sat down for my first tentative beer of the day. The first couple of sips tasted like tobacco-flavoured water. Played a game of pool and then wandered upstairs to change and get ready.
The room phone rings just before 7 and it's Reggie. I'm feeling pretty healthy at this point, showered again and ready to roll. I have a beer at the bar with him (he drinks coke) and we just talk sh*t about this, that and the other. He has been working at Duck Inn for four years and before that, he was a bodyguard for some VIP. Finish the drinks and we're off. He says he has plans for me but wants to know if there is any place I want to go. I tell him Gold Coast bar because I thought (and still think) that they have the best average quality girls in Ermita. I just want to see again. He says ok and off we go. It's less than five minutes from the Duck Inn. Just as with yesterday, the quality is great, though a few different girls this time. We have a drink and tells me a few stories about old times. He's a soft-spoken, gentle kind of a bloke and he likes a laugh. Good craic in any event. He says if I want to choose a Gold Coast girl, no worries, he's happy either way. I tell him no, I'll continue with him and let him take me where he wanted to go.
We exit the bar and Reggie is laughing to himself because the place he had in mind is the Red Garter, right next door. You sneaky bugger, I'm thinking. All in good fun. I was a bit worried because although there were a couple of cuties, overall the girls are better next door at the Gold Coast. The mamasan comes over to us immediately and talks to Reggie. He tells me that my girl is not here, we can have a drink and she'll be here soon. Ok then. Drinks arrive and I have a good luck around. It's kind of a rectangular-shaped bar with the bar itself on the left as you walk in. All the girls sit on chairs on the right, with lots of comings and goings in the space between. Not a pressure atmosphere at all like Red Rooster, JAPLAC or the other bars I went to the previous day. There are five or six punters and I chat to a couple of them. Some good fellas in there. At the far end of the bar, there's a musician playing classic hits, mainly love songs and things like that, and the atmosphere is pretty good.
Karaoke starts and they want the punters to get up there. One guy is all over it straight away, a bit of a plodder, so I'm inspired to sign up. I've done some singing over the years and can carry a husky tune, so I'm looking forward to it. My turn comes and up I go. First couple of bars and the girls all squeal; everyone stops and just listens. I'm halfway through my second song and into the bar walks the best-looking girl I've seen on the whole trip. The mamasan goes straight to her. She's looking at me and I'm looking at her; I know that she's my girl. I finish the song and a man comes up and shakes my hand, introduced himself as Roger, says he's the owner and gives me FIVE complimentary drink cards. Awesome (I won't be redeeming them all tonight, but I guess I'll have to come back). Lots of back slaps and handshakes; I felt pretty good. Finally, I meet the girl and yes, Reggie has arranged this. Nice work mate. Three drinks and we get to chatting. Her name is Jane, she's 24 and comes from Quezon province. All easy conversation, just talking about music and the bar and so on. I go to the toilet and Reggie discreetly follows me. I was hoping he would because I want to ask about the cost. 2000 pesos all night and then until I leave tomorrow. He also said I should tip the girl, either zero. 500 pesos or 1000 pesos depending on service. Alright mate, done deal. Reggie leaves because he has to go and work. I thanked him and told him I would come and see him later. I'm feeling a bit hungry at this point (for food, that is) , so I suggest we leave and get something to eat. Another quick chat and handshake with Roger the owner and we're off.
We went to the Cowboy Grill, which was in the same general area, on the way back to the Duck Inn. It's on the corner of Mabini Street and Arquiza Street 2 minutes from the Red Garter and the same or less to the Duck Inn. More serious than usual security check and we're in. The place is huge. Absolutely enormous. There are hundreds of seats arranged along long tables and a big upstairs gallery. Everything focuses on a stage at the back, elevated three meters off the restaurant floor, where a live band is playing. We get a seat right at the front, the band finishes their set and another band comes on soon after. They take requests from the crowd at a few hundred pesos a pop, and they play really well. There is a bit of comedy as well, but all in Tagalog. Jane has been here before and loves this place. We stay for dinner and a couple of drinks and make our way back to the Duck Inn, holding hands.
Back at the Duck Inn and Reggie has a big grin on his face. Jane goes to the bathroom and I order two last drinks and slip Reggie another 200 pesos. Well done mate. More chat, we finish our drinks and I'm heading up to the room. Reggie calls me back and gives me a dark orange tablet. He basically says, 'You are going to have a good time, but you're going to want to do more. Just take this when the time is right. ' I had no idea what it was – I thought Viagra was blue LOL. But I trust the guy. It was the last time I saw him on the trip. He saved me a couple of thousand pesos, gave lots of advice and really helped me out. Top fella.
Back at the room and we're showering. Great body, perfect skin and those kind of nipples that poke out like cherries. I'm all over them. Over to the bed and I know I'm in for a treat. This girl knows what a f*ck is all about. She's very enthusiastic and energetic and she seems to sense just when I want to change positions or do something else. Magic. Great first f*ck, multiple positions and finish with her cowgirl. Quick wash up and back to bed. I pop in Reggie's tablet right away. I have no idea what will happen as this is the first time I have taken a performance enhancer, but why not?
Back on the bed, we get to talking again. She says she enjoyed the restaurant and it was good to go out. She said most punters just want to f*ck in the room and watch TV. I laughed at that. She tells me she has a two-year-old kid (you wouldn't know it) and has broken up with her defacto recently. I give her the simple version of my own story. Hand are wandering during all of this, eventually slide down and start DATY. She has a magnificent pussy, firm, shaved and sweet, I go at it for a while; I ask her if she can cum and she said she doesn't know if she has ever come. What? I work twice as hard now and after a while she holds my head and hair, moaning in pleasure. I'm there for twenty minutes at least. I feel her contract and release, but she doesn't let go. She pulls me up, I cover up and f*ck just like the first time, except this time I cum with her sitting in my lap facing me. Another shower and off to sleep, right away.
Awake at 8 and the tentacles are out; a slow, lazy f*ck ensues, mostly laying down from the side. Very nice. We wash up again, and order room service. I turn the TV on, despite what she said the previous night. I tell her and she laughs. After we eat, we lay down and watch telly for a while. She starts playing with my cock and before too long, we're on again. I try DATY again, but it's the same as before. I must have been there for thirty minutes. She was all wet, but no release. She flipped me over and straight into BBBJ and she wants me to come. Staring at and touching that body, it doesn't take long. I reach the point, but I catch it, break free, stumble into the bathroom and blow into the toilet. She asks why and I don't know. I just didn't want to mess up those perfect features I suppose. Shower, five-minute bag pack and it's time to go. 1000 peso tip and she's happy. We walk down to reception and she asks if it's ok for her to go. I say sure. A quick kiss, a short backward glance and she's gone. Great experience all in all. The most expensive of the trip but I'll remember it for a long time. A few hours afterwards on the plane, despite the shower, brushing teeth and a beer in between, I could still faintly taste her pussy on my tongue. Awesome trip.
I checked out, sat at the bar at Duck Inn, and had one more beer before heading to the airport.
StreetHawk
05-20-11, 16:59
hello, all. i would like to share with you the highs and the lows of my 1st trip to the pi about a year and a half ago (i've been once since). i'd briefly read some field reports on another site but wasn't still really wasn't fully prepared for what was to unfold. i stayed at the swagman, purely because my friend told me he had stayed there previously. i booked a 'superior' room at like 2900 a night which was overpriced as its a run down place and the room i got was anything but superior, it was on the ground floor and was very shabby, and didn't even have a window. as it was my first foray into the field, i didn't have the inclination to complain and ask for a better room. however i'm glad i stayed there because i met some great aussie lads who were my drinking buddies for the 4 days i was there. they were quite a bit older than me and therefore not active in the field anymore and were all married to fililpinas.
anyway, from the top, the hotel picked me up at the airport and christmas eve and was grateful for that as i had trepidations about the world i had just entered. to be honest the culture shock of a 3rd world country really hit me, the kids half clothed begging, the dilapidated buildings, i remember wishing that my friend had given me more information about this barren landscape.
after i got settled or took a shower. i went straight to the bar and struck up a conversation with the aussies. good lads they are indeed, we had a good laugh so that took up most of the afternoon and indeed early evening. they took me to amazonia, had a few there, it was mostly empty with just a few fls. one came up and started giving back rubs and hustling for payment. me being a total noob, and having no idea of the exchange rate or the true economic situation casually pulled out 200 and gave it to her. anyway i was gettin horny at this point and although she was maybe 5-6 at best, she was good enough so she offered 1500 and i said 1000 which was quickly accepted. one of lad's son took another one, who was probably the pick of the bunch but i digress. and we went back to the hotel.
in the room straight into it, gfe dfk, she happily licked my arse which was nice. we fucked all over the spartan room. might have did it twice don't remember, i was also loaded up on the korean ginseng which you may know is a potent substitute for any chemical performance enhancer! anyway i was in full holiday mode which also means i'm prone to generosity, so i opened up the tanduay in the treated my new friend to dinner at the hotel. we talked, she was a nice girl actually, and it was a nice conversation. she couldn't eat everything so she doggie bagged the rest. we said goodbye and i got ready and headed for the infamous la cafe.
it was quite late when i got there it was already christmas day. upstairs was shut. nothing really took my fancy but i got a good vibe about the place and was enjoying it. i was talking to a dutchman and we had a good natter. few vodka and cokes later (switched from the beer like i usually do). after sometime, i wasn't really interested in any of the girls maybe they all go home for the christmas holidays, the waitress serving me was being very attentive and smiling radiantly. she was cute and had that fresh non pro look. anyway it was very late at this time maybe 5am and i was quite hammered at this point, so she gave me her number and told me that her shift didn't finish till 7. me being totally unprepared didn't even bring my phone from home with me to buy a sim so that was a bit pointless. so we agreed to meet in amazonia, and i went there and kept drinkin till she arrived at 8 30am.
i was having a whale of a time, the birds were chirping and i was still drinkin and partying. after getting her a drink we went back to the hotel and she revealed her cute body, nice tits not too big, and slim body. we went at it for a while-bareback, good bj and a good fuck followed i shot the load up her back and we slept. the next day we talked and went at it again, she told me she liked me and wanted to see me again. i thought it was funny that my 1st experience from the la cafe was a member of staff not one of the working girls. we fucked again and she left mid afternoon. anyone else had 1 of the waitresses?
i got up had christmas dinner at the hotel which was a feast, had everything, very nice and cost 380, but i wasn't thinking about that, i had money to burn so i was doing just that. i then joined the aussies and more beer and conversation followed, good times. it was then getttin time to go out again, so i went out to la cafe again, more people this time, i sat at the bar again, and struck up a conversation with another lad beside me, an american said he owned a bar in angeles, nice lad wasnt old either about 29 i think. we got talking to some fl beside me one was a bit rough, ana she was called, not interested. the other one, analie was nicer through my beer googles. all the while the waitress from last night had started work and came up to me and started ordering lady drinks for herself, think they might have been 250-300? not sure. hmm i thought ok, but then i got her to tell the dj to play a song of mine and then she asked for a drink, hmm i agreed but was getting the idea of what this place is like. anyway i told her to stop bringing her friends over asking for drinks. she seemed to understand. staying on the subject of being milked i'm trying to remember if it was the same night or the night before where she brought the manager and 2 other overs and i ended up getting them a drink before i could actually say no. hmm anyway they could smell i was a newbie and a drinker, and i was in holiday mode so i let it go, thinking it could buy me some goodwill further down the track. i know i'm inviting the fires of indignation but it was a learning experience. i spent just as much if not more on drinks than it would have cost for a st. it's never free!
anyway the fl's left their number, claimed that they weren't working girls blah blah. yeah right! so i was going home when my special waitress introduced me to a friend who again wasn't the best, but the beer goggles were in play again so i arranged to meet her in the street when the other girl wasn't looking. the place was full and i think most of the talent had been taken, it was full of foreigners, i had also been upstairs before, and slim pickings. lots of koreans there, and they had their own spot upstairs which of course you already know.
i had arranged for the waitress to come after work, but had no cell phone so couldn't chase that up. hopeless or what! anyway took the pleasantly plump girl back to the hotel gave her a quick smash, it was more of a laugh than anything else, i didn't agree on a price and said 500 ok? and she said no 1000. not being in a mood to argue, i gave it to her. my waitress didn't return for room service but that was ok.
next day i thought i would call 1 of the fl i spoke to that looked half decent. i called the number and agreed to meet, they were at the hotel in no time. but not the girl i wanted! i got their names mixed up instead of analie i got ana, the rough looking ticket lol. but she had a very cute friend with her, who turned out to be a total scumbag see*nt but more about that later. so we walked to starbucks at robinson's and i said where is your friend. the ugly one then went crazy shouting at me, 'what? why you call me when you want her! she went off at me and the other just smiled. she took the huff with me and we got to starbucks she was giving me the evils, still accepted a choco whatever it was though, i bought them one each. there were some availables around there too, nice spot to sit out. so i got the number of her friend, she passed to me under the table on a hankie. so the ugly one stormed off, apparently she liked me and is very jealous. few drinks later i called the girl-from my hotel room phone, didn't always work lol. she came back to the hotel like a bloodhound on the scent. we discussed prices, she said 2500 lt i said 2000. she said ok. being in holiday mode and all that i treated her to dinner, yes i know bit over generous, but my mind was also befuddled with drink the whole time. as the saying goes 'when the drink goes in the sense goes out'. so we went to the room, girl was very cute, one of the light skinned variety, very petite. i got her top off and tried to get her knickers off but she was like no no later. to experienced mongers that would have set alarm bells ringing but not this poor, drunken sap! so you can guess why: yes the ***** was on the rag. anyway she did gave me a good bj and indeed i shot my load on the bed. she also asked if she could leave her bag in my hotel room i agreed. this was also part of her ploy, you may already know why, or if not you'll find out later in the report.
we then went out to la again, she talked to some of her scummy hooker mates, managed to get a packet of pringles out of me, but nothing else. one of them asked me to pay her entry upstairs, i had discovered the word no by this point! i bought the girl a drink or 2. she wasn't much of a drinker though. we went upstairs and again nothing doing on the fl front, the koreans seemed to have it sewn up there. so she took me to g point where i saw the girl i wanted earlier that day, the ugly friend was also there and she was giving me the evils! bitchface then says i don't want to do anything and cause any dramas because of the ugly one. they all stayed in the same dorm room in a guest house in ermita. so we left and went back to mine as she had left her bag there and there the drama began.
back in my room the ***** demanded 2000, and i said for what just a bj? i said fuck off, what do you take me for. i bought you drinks, i then told her to get out before i throw her out. at the time i meant me throwing her out physically. i then thought, better of it. we argued back and forth, and she then made little threats like 'i know the security guard' (she was indeed cosy with him) 'and you don't know the phillipines'. i said why what the fuck are you going to do. she didn't reply. just little thinly veiled threats like you have a job. i said no every time. she wouldn't leave. then i started thinking what if the ***** called the police on me. that was the only thing i was afraid of. i know what those fuckers are like, she only has to cry [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and the fuckers would be squeezing you for 100, 000. i started freaking out a bit and decided i didn't want this drama. i wasn't going to give her anything. i was 70% sure she was bluffing but i gave in and gave it to her. she had planned this little scam from the start, she was on the rag, so she left her bag at mine and then bluff me into paying the full amount. i called her all the names of the day, such as the see*nt word. it was like water off a duck's back. she said 'yes i know i'm a see*nt'. she said she was sorry, and that she was on a different level to her friends and a higher tier fl. she left and i was fuming with the little *****.
oh i forgot to mention! i got the number of the original friend i wanted i had arranged for her to come over and she came on while i was still arguing with that other trash. so i was'nt there to meet her so she went home again! i called her and she was a bit pissed off, i said don't worry i'll get your taxi money just come again. she did and she helped erase the memory of the fucked up events of a few hours before. did anything, licked my arse repeatedly, giving me a full colonic inspection with her tongue, unreal! i fucked her and i took the condom of and she sucked me off and licked my arse again and i came over her fringe. great! we agreed on 1000 before, but she stayed till 3-4 next day, once again in the morning, she went to the shop for me, and she even wanted it again after i paid because she enjoyed it so much. i tipped her 300 nice girl, like chalk and cheese compared to that other fucker.
so i just wanted to ask, what would fellow experienced mongers have done if they were in my shoes that night? i think the worst thing i could have done was start shouting and arguing with her. should i have called her bluff? should i have called security anyway, even if they were matey? should i have given her 1000 and told her final offer or i'm having you kicked out? another friend told me i should have asked her to come to the bar for a drink and have a talk about it and then when she's out of my room, tell the desk she's a hooker and she's trying to scam me and have her kicked out. but then the security guard did seem like a lame duck and my original fears about the cops would have still been a possibility. it can be a dodgy place as well you know.
your opinions please. i hope i haven't stoked the fires of indignation to much, i know i was silly, i know i may have encouraged her to do it to another newbie monger. i was having a whale of a time and just wanted to enjoy it. it was certainly a learning experience my first trip. so try and keep any criticism as constructive as possible! thanks all and looking forward to your combined perspectives on this matter. happy mongering!
Where is the Cowboy Grill?
Thanks.
I use to just do MBC / LA cafe and Amazonia until a friend showed me G Point and Cowboy Grill. Bar hopping has a lot to do with timing. Timing is everything, you just do not know what you will run into on a given time or day.
My two best finds were Amazonia bar on a very quiet evening. Never to be repeated.
If you notice most of the girls do the circuit from one bar to the next hoping to increase there chances. I would bar hop if I found a keeper but any other time I do not need the baggage.
I will check out that Hussy's out of a perverse curiosity that it may be ok. But like you said the main bars like LA Cafe (sorry its still LA cafe to me) usually have enough variety for most of us and that is where the majority will be.
Cheers
Dezzy Haynes
05-20-11, 18:41
Where is the Cowboy Grill?
Thanks. It's on the corner of Mabini Street and Arquiza Street. Good spot.
Cowboy Grill (Melate) is on the "bayside" of Remidious Circle. Walk about 3/4 blocks down Adriatico street from Robinson's until to get to the circle. Havana Cafe (Melate) will be on your right side. Take the street to right before Havana, go one block and it will be on your left. Live bands, food and drink. Good place for a date and later in the evening for pick-ups.
Sogo short time hotel is only couple blocks away toward Zoo.
Enjpy.
Cheapy.
Where is the Cowboy Grill?
Thanks
Dezzy Haynes
05-20-11, 18:55
Cowboy Grill (Melate) is on the "bayside" of Remidious Circle. Walk about 3/4 blocks down Adriatico street from Robinson's until to get to the circle. Havana Cafe (Melate) will be on your right side. Take the street to right before Havana, go one block and it will be on your left. Live bands, food and drink. Good place for a date and later in the evening for pick-ups.
Sogo short time hotel is only couple blocks away toward Zoo.
Enjpy.
CheapyTrue. I was at the Mabini Cowboy Grill earlier this week and the girl I was with told me there were three of them within walking distance. It must be a chain.
Chocha Monger
05-20-11, 21:17
hello, all. i would like to share with you the highs and the lows of my 1st trip to the pi about a year and a half ago (i've been once since). i'd briefly read some field reports on another site but wasn't still really wasn't fully prepared for what was to unfold. i stayed at the swagman, purely because my friend told me he had stayed there previously. i booked a 'superior' room at like 2900 a night which was overpriced as its a run down place and the room i got was anything but superior, it was on the ground floor and was very shabby, and didn't even have a window. as it was my first foray into the field, i didn't have the inclination to complain and ask for a better room. however i'm glad i stayed there because i met some great aussie lads who were my drinking buddies for the 4 days i was there. they were quite a bit older than me and therefore not active in the field anymore and were all married to fililpinas.
anyway, from the top, the hotel picked me up at the airport and christmas eve and was grateful for that as i had trepidations about the world i had just entered. to be honest the culture shock of a 3rd world country really hit me, the kids half clothed begging, the dilapidated buildings, i remember wishing that my friend had given me more information about this barren landscape.
after i got settled or took a shower. i went straight to the bar and struck up a conversation with the aussies. good lads they are indeed, we had a good laugh so that took up most of the afternoon and indeed early evening. they took me to amazonia, had a few there, it was mostly empty with just a few fls. one came up and started giving back rubs and hustling for payment. me being a total noob, and having no idea of the exchange rate or the true economic situation casually pulled out 200 and gave it to her. anyway i was gettin horny at this point and although she was maybe 5-6 at best, she was good enough so she offered 1500 and i said 1000 which was quickly accepted. one of lad's son took another one, who was probably the pick of the bunch but i digress. and we went back to the hotel.
in the room straight into it, gfe dfk, she happily licked my arse which was nice. we fucked all over the spartan room. might have did it twice don't remember, i was also loaded up on the korean ginseng which you may know is a potent substitute for any chemical performance enhancer! anyway i was in full holiday mode which also means i'm prone to generosity, so i opened up the tanduay in the treated my new friend to dinner at the hotel. we talked, she was a nice girl actually, and it was a nice conversation. she couldn't eat everything so she doggie bagged the rest. we said goodbye and i got ready and headed for the infamous la cafe.
it was quite late when i got there it was already christmas day. upstairs was shut. nothing really took my fancy but i got a good vibe about the place and was enjoying it. i was talking to a dutchman and we had a good natter. few vodka and cokes later (switched from the beer like i usually do). after sometime, i wasn't really interested in any of the girls maybe they all go home for the christmas holidays, the waitress serving me was being very attentive and smiling radiantly. she was cute and had that fresh non pro look. anyway it was very late at this time maybe 5am and i was quite hammered at this point, so she gave me her number and told me that her shift didn't finish till 7. me being totally unprepared didn't even bring my phone from home with me to buy a sim so that was a bit pointless. so we agreed to meet in amazonia, and i went there and kept drinkin till she arrived at 8 30am.
i was having a whale of a time, the birds were chirping and i was still drinkin and partying. after getting her a drink we went back to the hotel and she revealed her cute body, nice tits not too big, and slim body. we went at it for a while-bareback, good bj and a good fuck followed i shot the load up her back and we slept. the next day we talked and went at it again, she told me she liked me and wanted to see me again. i thought it was funny that my 1st experience from the la cafe was a member of staff not one of the working girls. we fucked again and she left mid afternoon. anyone else had 1 of the waitresses?
i got up had christmas dinner at the hotel which was a feast, had everything, very nice and cost 380, but i wasn't thinking about that, i had money to burn so i was doing just that. i then joined the aussies and more beer and conversation followed, good times. it was then getttin time to go out again, so i went out to la cafe again, more people this time, i sat at the bar again, and struck up a conversation with another lad beside me, an american said he owned a bar in angeles, nice lad wasnt old either about 29 i think. we got talking to some fl beside me one was a bit rough, ana she was called, not interested. the other one, analie was nicer through my beer googles. all the while the waitress from last night had started work and came up to me and started ordering lady drinks for herself, think they might have been 250-300? not sure. hmm i thought ok, but then i got her to tell the dj to play a song of mine and then she asked for a drink, hmm i agreed but was getting the idea of what this place is like. anyway i told her to stop bringing her friends over asking for drinks. she seemed to understand. staying on the subject of being milked i'm trying to remember if it was the same night or the night before where she brought the manager and 2 other overs and i ended up getting them a drink before i could actually say no. hmm anyway they could smell i was a newbie and a drinker, and i was in holiday mode so i let it go, thinking it could buy me some goodwill further down the track. i know i'm inviting the fires of indignation but it was a learning experience. i spent just as much if not more on drinks than it would have cost for a st. it's never free!
anyway the fl's left their number, claimed that they weren't working girls blah blah. yeah right! so i was going home when my special waitress introduced me to a friend who again wasn't the best, but the beer goggles were in play again so i arranged to meet her in the street when the other girl wasn't looking. the place was full and i think most of the talent had been taken, it was full of foreigners, i had also been upstairs before, and slim pickings. lots of koreans there, and they had their own spot upstairs which of course you already know.
i had arranged for the waitress to come after work, but had no cell phone so couldn't chase that up. hopeless or what! anyway took the pleasantly plump girl back to the hotel gave her a quick smash, it was more of a laugh than anything else, i didn't agree on a price and said 500 ok? and she said no 1000. not being in a mood to argue, i gave it to her. my waitress didn't return for room service but that was ok.
next day i thought i would call 1 of the fl i spoke to that looked half decent. i called the number and agreed to meet, they were at the hotel in no time. but not the girl i wanted! i got their names mixed up instead of analie i got ana, the rough looking ticket lol. but she had a very cute friend with her, who turned out to be a total scumbag see*nt but more about that later. so we walked to starbucks at robinson's and i said where is your friend. the ugly one then went crazy shouting at me, 'what? why you call me when you want her! she went off at me and the other just smiled. she took the huff with me and we got to starbucks she was giving me the evils, still accepted a choco whatever it was though, i bought them one each. there were some availables around there too, nice spot to sit out. so i got the number of her friend, she passed to me under the table on a hankie. so the ugly one stormed off, apparently she liked me and is very jealous. few drinks later i called the girl-from my hotel room phone, didn't always work lol. she came back to the hotel like a bloodhound on the scent. we discussed prices, she said 2500 lt i said 2000. she said ok. being in holiday mode and all that i treated her to dinner, yes i know bit over generous, but my mind was also befuddled with drink the whole time. as the saying goes 'when the drink goes in the sense goes out'. so we went to the room, girl was very cute, one of the light skinned variety, very petite. i got her top off and tried to get her knickers off but she was like no no later. to experienced mongers that would have set alarm bells ringing but not this poor, drunken sap! so you can guess why: yes the * was on the rag. anyway she did gave me a good bj and indeed i shot my load on the bed. she also asked if she could leave her bag in my hotel room i agreed. this was also part of her ploy, you may already know why, or if not you'll find out later in the report.
we then went out to la again, she talked to some of her scummy hooker mates, managed to get a packet of pringles out of me, but nothing else. one of them asked me to pay her entry upstairs, i had discovered the word no by this point! i bought the girl a drink or 2. she wasn't much of a drinker though. we went upstairs and again nothing doing on the fl front, the koreans seemed to have it sewn up there. so she took me to g point where i saw the girl i wanted earlier that day, the ugly friend was also there and she was giving me the evils! bitchface then says i don't want to do anything and cause any dramas because of the ugly one. they all stayed in the same dorm room in a guest house in ermita. so we left and went back to mine as she had left her bag there and there the drama began.
back in my room the * demanded 2000, and i said for what just a bj? i said fuck off, what do you take me for. i bought you drinks, i then told her to get out before i throw her out. at the time i meant me throwing her out physically. i then thought, better of it. we argued back and forth, and she then made little threats like 'i know the security guard' (she was indeed cosy with him) 'and you don't know the phillipines'. i said why what the fuck are you going to do. she didn't reply. just little thinly veiled threats like you have a job. i said no every time. she wouldn't leave. then i started thinking what if the * called the police on me. that was the only thing i was afraid of. i know what those fuckers are like, she only has to cry [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and the fuckers would be squeezing you for 100, 000. i started freaking out a bit and decided i didn't want this drama. i wasn't going to give her anything. i was 70% sure she was bluffing but i gave in and gave it to her. she had planned this little scam from the start, she was on the rag, so she left her bag at mine and then bluff me into paying the full amount. i called her all the names of the day, such as the see*nt word. it was like water off a duck's back. she said 'yes i know i'm a see*nt'. she said she was sorry, and that she was on a different level to her friends and a higher tier fl. she left and i was fuming with the little.
oh i forgot to mention! i got the number of the original friend i wanted i had arranged for her to come over and she came on while i was still arguing with that other trash. so i was'nt there to meet her so she went home again! i called her and she was a bit pissed off, i said don't worry i'll get your taxi money just come again. she did and she helped erase the memory of the fucked up events of a few hours before. did anything, licked my arse repeatedly, giving me a full colonic inspection with her tongue, unreal! i fucked her and i took the condom of and she sucked me off and licked my arse again and i came over her fringe. great! we agreed on 1000 before, but she stayed till 3-4 next day, once again in the morning, she went to the shop for me, and she even wanted it again after i paid because she enjoyed it so much. i tipped her 300 nice girl, like chalk and cheese compared to that other fucker.
so i just wanted to ask, what would fellow experienced mongers have done if they were in my shoes that night? i think the worst thing i could have done was start shouting and arguing with her. should i have called her bluff? should i have called security anyway, even if they were matey? should i have given her 1000 and told her final offer or i'm having you kicked out? another friend told me i should have asked her to come to the bar for a drink and have a talk about it and then when she's out of my room, tell the desk she's a hooker and she's trying to scam me and have her kicked out. but then the security guard did seem like a lame duck and my original fears about the cops would have still been a possibility. it can be a dodgy place as well you know.
your opinions please. i hope i haven't stoked the fires of indignation to much, i know i was silly, i know i may have encouraged her to do it to another newbie monger. i was having a whale of a time and just wanted to enjoy it. it was certainly a learning experience my first trip. so try and keep any criticism as constructive as possible! thanks all and looking forward to your combined perspectives on this matter. happy mongering! yeah. you fucked up and some newbie mongers will probably pay for it. at least you know what you did wrong and hopefully you will temper your drinking when mongering next time since it seems to affect your decisions for the worst. you could have had that hooker removed from the premises without any further problems. however, she saw that you were clueless about the local scene, drunk and scared so she took advantage. you did open yourself up to being set up when you allowed her to leave her bag there. she could have had some shabu in there and called in a tip to the police that a foreigner had drugs in his room and provided your details. try to remember that you're not in kansas anymore.
Back in my room the ***** demanded 2000, and I said for what just a BJ? I said fuck off, what do you take me for. I bought you drinks, I then told her to get out before I throw her out. At the time I meant me throwing her out physically. I then thought, better of it. We argued back and forth, and she then made little threats like 'I know the security guard' (she was indeed cosy with him) 'and you don't know the Phillipines'...SH:
Maybe she was bluffing, maybe not! Who knows? But one thing is for sure, as a foreigner you are always in a very weak position! So, it was indeed wise to avoid big trouble! And never ever argue with them, but agree on the price you are going to pay well in advance instead. IMHO of course!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Member #4698
05-21-11, 00:57
. We discussed prices, She said 2500 LT I said 2000. She said ok. We went to the room, girl was very cute, one of the light skinned variety, very petite. I got her top off and tried to get her knickers off but she was like no no later. To experienced mongers that would have set alarm bells ringing but not this poor, drunken sap! So you can guess why: yes the * was on the rag. Anyway She did gave me a good BJ and indeed I shot my load on the bed. She also asked if she could leave her bag in my hotel room I agreed.
We then went out to LA again. She took me to G point. We left and went back to mine as she had left her bag there and there the drama began.
Back in my room the * demanded 2000, and I said for what just a BJ? I said fuck off, what do you take me for. I bought you drinks, I then told her to get out before I throw her out. At the time I meant me throwing her out physically. I then thought, better of it. We argued back and forth, and she then made little threats like 'I know the security guard' (she was indeed cosy with him) 'and you don't know the Phillipines'. I said why what the fuck are you going to do. She didn't reply. Just little thinly veiled threats like you have a job. I said no every time. She wouldn't leave. Then I started thinking what if the * called the police on me. That was the only thing I was afraid of. I decided I didn't want this drama. I was 70% sure she was bluffing but I gave in and gave it to her. She had planned this little scam from the start, she was on the rag, so she left her bag at mine and then bluff me into paying the full amount. I called her all the names of the day, such as the see*nt word. It was like water off a duck's back. She said 'yes I know I'm a see*nt'. She said she was sorry, and that she was on a different level to her friends and a higher tier FL. She left and I was fuming with the little.
Your opinions please. StreetHawk, my opinion: you made two mistakes. 1. You let the girl keep her bag in your room after the BJ and after discovering she was on mens and could not shag her. Some Filipinas do this. If you were done with her, you should have said goodbye then and there and given her 1000p for the BJ. It would have been the end of the story. Yet for some reason you continued to hang out with her. That's cool, but when you guys got back to the room you should have asked for another BJ. I am pretty sure you would have gotten it. 2. You got into a heated argument with a native.
In the end, you gave the girl 2000p to avoid any really serious ugliness and for her to get the hell out, so I calculate the girl took you for a 1000p. If this is the worst rip off you have ever experienced, then God has been good to you. Shit, I owned a $10,000 investment grade Lehman Brothers bond that was due to mature a week after the company went bankrupt. Now that's a rip off! I received $2000 in settlement.
P. S. It is not good to lose your temper with the locals. As Chocha Monger said 'you're not in Kansas anymore. ' Keep your wits about you. Anyway, sounds like you had a good time in Manila except for that, so in the end it's no big thing.
FreebieFan
05-21-11, 03:46
True. I was at the Mabini Cowboy Grill earlier this week and the girl I was with told me there were three of them within walking distance. It must be a chain.It is indeed a chain. Great reports BTW. Many of us use this "chain" altho some brothers prefer the more luxurious surroundings of the Dusit. Sorry biro lang for " insiders " LOL. Hope you have a return visit. Your reports make good reading.
Snow Koala
05-21-11, 06:11
StreetHawk, my opinion: you made two mistakes. 1. You let the girl keep her bag in your room after the BJ and after discovering she was on mens and could not shag her. Some Filipinas do this. If you were done with her, you should have said goodbye then and there and given her 1000p for the BJ. It would have been the end of the story. Yet for some reason you continued to hang out with her. That's cool, but when you guys got back to the room you should have asked for another BJ. I am pretty sure you would have gotten it. 2. You got into a heated argument with a native.
In the end, you gave the girl 2000p to avoid any really serious ugliness and for her to get the hell out, so I calculate the girl took you for a 1000p. If this is the worst rip off you have ever experienced, then God has been good to you. Shit, I owned a $10, 000 investment grade Lehman Brothers bond that was due to mature a week after the company went bankrupt. Now that's a rip off! I received $2000 in settlement.
P. S. It is not good to lose your temper with the locals. As Chocha Monger said 'you're not in Kansas anymore. ' Keep your wits about you. Anyway, sounds like you had a good time in Manila except for that, so in the end it's no big thing. I agree with Natty Bumpo except the part about getting angry with the locals. After a year of living here and seeing more shit in one year than a lifetime in the west, I realise that after reasonable discussions have ended, losing your rag in a controlled way is sometimes the only way to get things done. This does not just apply with girls but I had a barney with the bank manager the other day and as soon as I raised my voice, things started to go the right way. Asians don't like confrontation.
I would have given the girl 1, 000 peso and kicked her out and told her if she contacts me again, I will call the police and tell then she stole money out of my room. You will soon, get a sorry, sorry, sorry, text message. Don't put up with that crap because it just makes it harder for the rest of us.
StreetHawk
05-21-11, 06:14
StreetHawk, my opinion: you made two mistakes. 1. You let the girl keep her bag in your room after the BJ and after discovering she was on mens and could not shag her. Some Filipinas do this. If you were done with her, you should have said goodbye then and there and given her 1000p for the BJ. It would have been the end of the story. Yet for some reason you continued to hang out with her. That's cool, but when you guys got back to the room you should have asked for another BJ. I am pretty sure you would have gotten it. 2. You got into a heated argument with a native.
In the end, you gave the girl 2000p to avoid any really serious ugliness and for her to get the hell out, so I calculate the girl took you for a 1000p. If this is the worst rip off you have ever experienced, then God has been good to you. Shit, I owned a $10, 000 investment grade Lehman Brothers bond that was due to mature a week after the company went bankrupt. Now that's a rip off! I received $2000 in settlement.
P. S. It is not good to lose your temper with the locals. As Chocha Monger said 'you're not in Kansas anymore. ' Keep your wits about you. Anyway, sounds like you had a good time in Manila except for that, so in the end it's no big thing. Thanks for the feeback Natty. Indeed I can't believe I let her keep my bag in her room now. But you're still giving me too much credit! I still didn't catch on that she was on mens when she wouldn't let me take her trousers off! I just went with the flow, and surprisingly didn't question this fact. If I knew I would have sent her on her way. Yes she just squeezed me for 1000, so not exactly the end of the world. It's just the principle, someone like that thinking they can get one over on you. I was befuddled with drink and beguiled by her beauty (very cute this one although very skinny). Yes I could have gotten another BJ but she pissed me off when I realised that she played me. Anyway just put it down to experience.
Snow Koala
05-21-11, 06:30
I plan my first trip in couple of months, I think September should be the best time and I wonder what else can be done other than mongering?
I will stay in Manila but also wish to visit some other part of the country for 2-3 days, I am thinking Cebu and I would also like to be able to hit the beach a few times.
So I think, maybe 70% mongering, for which I have a wealth of info here, but 30. Vacation, what do you guys suggest? There are really 3 key things you can do in Philippines:
1. Mongering.
2. Scuba diving.
3. Scenery Siteseeing.
There are some great scuba diving places in Puerto Galera, Bohol, Moalboal, Malapascua, Coron.
There are a lot of beautiful islands and beaches in Phil. Boracay is definitely worth a visit. Puerto Galera has nice beaches. Alona beach on Panglao island close to Tagbilaran city is my personal favourite. Camagian and Palawan are also nice. Apart from Boracay and Puerto Galera is BYOG all the way.
Snow
StreetHawk
05-21-11, 07:49
I could also mention the other errors I made further into my trip in Angeles, Puerto Galera, and even Thailand but I'm not sure if feeling masochistic enough.
StreetHawk
05-21-11, 07:51
I could also mention the other errors I made further into my trip in Angeles, Puerto Galera, and even Thailand but I'm not sure if I'm feeling masochistic enough.
FreebieFan
05-21-11, 07:59
. If I knew I would have sent her on her way. Yes she just squeezed me for 1000, so not exactly the end of the world. It's just the principle, someone like that thinking they can get one over on you. I was befuddled with drink and beguiled by her beauty (very cute this one although very skinny). Yes I could have gotten another BJ but she pissed me off when I realised that she played me. Anyway just put it down to experience.They invented the phrase " you can't win them all" for such situations. New visitor to LOS (if Thailand is Land Of Smiles, then Phils is Land Of Sharks) can't be expected to know the depth of deviousness some of these gals have. P1000. You were lucky. ! I got played for a lot more than that one day involving a police scam.
But we live to tell the tale, move on and laugh about it.
I agree with Natty Bumpo except the part about getting angry with the locals. After a year of living here and seeing more shit in one year than a lifetime in the west, I realise that after reasonable discussions have ended, losing your rag in a controlled way is sometimes the only way to get things done. This does not just apply with girls but I had a barney with the bank manager the other day and as soon as I raised my voice, things started to go the right way. Asians don't like confrontation.I have lived here for 14 years Snow and it is NOT in your LONG TERM interests to "lose your rag" as you put it.
You might get a short-term victory (in your eyes) but I would be watching out for the longer-term consequences. Your "win" over your bank manager will require him to regain face especially if you made him or her look bad in the eyes of his / her staff.
It is generally NOT in your long-term interest anywhere in Asia to yell or thump tables or verbally insult anyone. You can be firm and assertive and negotiate in a direct manner but raising the voice will ultimately work against you.
JMHO.
Your opinions please. I hope I haven't stoked the fires of indignation to much, I know I was silly, I know I may have encouraged her to do it to another newbie monger. I was having a whale of a time and just wanted to enjoy it. It was certainly a learning experience my first trip. So try and keep any criticism as constructive as possible! Thanks all and looking forward to your combined perspectives on this matter. Happy mongering!I lost 4, 000 for a non-performing FL, but I'm wiser now. Hope this makes your feel better.
I got their names mixed up instead of Analie I got Ana, the rough looking ticketA good tip I've heard, is to buy a camera phone, and snap a pic of each girl you take a phone number for. Seems there is a way to link the pic to the number? Haven't tried it yet.
StreetHawk
05-21-11, 19:04
They invented the phrase " you can't win them all" for such situations. New visitor to LOS (if Thailand is Land Of Smiles, then Phils is Land Of Sharks) can't be expected to know the depth of deviousness some of these gals have. P1000. You were lucky. ! I got played for a lot more than that one day involving a police scam.
But we live to tell the tale, move on and laugh about it. That's the ultimate nightmare, and one that was resonating in the back of my mind. I wonder has anyone ever told them to fuck off, can they really keep you locked up indefinitely? Regardless, doesn't bear thinking about. Hate hearing about the victims they snared with that one, it's really a different world out there. Glad you're philosophical about it. Cheers
...few drinks later i called the girl-from my hotel room phone, didn't always work lol. she came back to the hotel like a bloodhound on the scent. we discussed prices, she said 2500 lt i said 2000. she said ok. being in holiday mode and all that i treated her to dinner, yes i know bit over generous, but my mind was also befuddled with drink the whole time. as the saying goes 'when the drink goes in the sense goes out'. so we went to the room, girl was very cute, one of the light skinned variety, very petite. i got her top off and tried to get her knickers off but she was like no no later. to experienced mongers that would have set alarm bells ringing but not this poor, drunken sap! so you can guess why: yes the * was on the rag. anyway she did gave me a good bj and indeed i shot my load on the bed. she also asked if she could leave her bag in my hotel room i agreed. this was also part of her ploy, you may already know why, or if not you'll find out later in the report.
we then went out to la again, she talked to some of her scummy hooker mates, managed to get a packet of pringles out of me, but nothing else. one of them asked me to pay her entry upstairs, i had discovered the word no by this point! i bought the girl a drink or 2. she wasn't much of a drinker though. we went upstairs and again nothing doing on the fl front, the koreans seemed to have it sewn up there. so she took me to g point where i saw the girl i wanted earlier that day, the ugly friend was also there and she was giving me the evils! bitchface then says i don't want to do anything and cause any dramas because of the ugly one. they all stayed in the same dorm room in a guest house in ermita. so we left and went back to mine as she had left her bag there and there the drama began.
back in my room the * demanded 2000, and i said for what just a bj? i said fuck off, what do you take me for. i bought you drinks, i then told her to get out before i throw her out. at the time i meant me throwing her out physically. i then thought, better of it. we argued back and forth, and she then made little threats like 'i know the security guard' (she was indeed cosy with him) 'and you don't know the phillipines'. i said why what the fuck are you going to do. she didn't reply. just little thinly veiled threats like you have a job. i said no every time. she wouldn't leave. then i started thinking what if the * called the police on me. that was the only thing i was afraid of. i know what those fuckers are like, she only has to cry [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and the fuckers would be squeezing you for 100, 000. i started freaking out a bit and decided i didn't want this drama. i wasn't going to give her anything. i was 70% sure she was bluffing but i gave in and gave it to her. she had planned this little scam from the start, she was on the rag, so she left her bag at mine and then bluff me into paying the full amount. i called her all the names of the day, such as the see*nt word. it was like water off a duck's back. she said 'yes i know i'm a see*nt'. she said she was sorry, and that she was on a different level to her friends and a higher tier fl. she left and i was fuming with the little.
so i just wanted to ask, what would fellow experienced mongers have done if they were in my shoes that night? i think the worst thing i could have done was start shouting and arguing with her. should i have called her bluff? should i have called security anyway, even if they were matey? should i have given her 1000 and told her final offer or i'm having you kicked out? another friend told me i should have asked her to come to the bar for a drink and have a talk about it and then when she's out of my room, tell the desk she's a hooker and she's trying to scam me and have her kicked out. but then the security guard did seem like a lame duck and my original fears about the cops would have still been a possibility. it can be a dodgy place as well you know...
nice report, albeit a tad late (1, 5 years!)
i'll be as constructive as i can, starting with two of my cardinal rules for conduct in the mongering world and for life in general:
1. never, ever, blame it on the alcohol.
2. a wh*re is a wh*re is a wh*re, no matter how you look at it. (as in the cliche 'you can always take the girl out of the bar, but you can never take the bar out of the girl'.
so, to answer your question as to what i would have done if i were in your shoes that night:
first, my reasoning: notwithstanding that i likely would not have made the mistake of not discussing the terms of lt with her prior to negotiating and agreeing on the rate of php 2000 (such as multiple pops, she stays until after breakfast, etc.) , the fact that you took her to dinner, then back to your room for a bj, then to lac again, then back to your room, probably meant that you went past the (generally understood) 2 hr time frame for st, ie. time-wise, you went lt. however, her time would be perhaps more than adequately compensated by the fact that you bought her dinner and drinks. therefore, i would have:
attempted to explain (briefly) the above reasoning to her, then offered php1000 for st + php100 for her cabfare home. if she refuses to leave, i would have then called security to have her and her bag removed from the room. i would've just said: 'i have a guest who refuses to leave. could you please come and assist'. you are a paying guest of the hotel. the job of the hotel security is exactly that, security of the premises and your security. i doubt that this would have not worked, regardless of how 'cosy' she is with the security guard.
what made you think she was 'cosy' with the security guard? she certainly was sharp enough on this, picked up on it and cashed in on that vulnerability.
by the way, here's a similar story for you: (background: i'm asian, expat in vietnam for 3 years) once i picked up an fl from a well known watering hole in ho chi minh city and took her to a no-tell mini-hotel of my choice (there are hundreds of these in this city, like victoria court or sogo in the phils). we agreed on lt for a certain rate, she was to stay 'till morning'. after the first pop, she showered and changed to leave! i then proceeded to give her half the agreed rate, nicely at first, soft words explaining my reasoning. she refused, blocking the door physically with her body. calmly, i got dressed, put the half-lt rate on the bed, walked to the door, then physically removed her away from the door and let myself out. yes i had to man-handle her to get myself out of that situation. no i did not hit her. a vietnamese man would probably have, in that situation, just as a pinoy client in your case would probably have, in your situation.
bottomline: she knew you were a newbie and took all the advantage she thought she could get away with, and did. chalk it down as a lesson learnt, for php 1000. not too bad for tuition. i've paid much more.
StreetHawk
05-21-11, 19:50
Attempted to explain (briefly) the above reasoning to her, then offered PHP1000 for ST + PHP100 for her cabfare home. If she refuses to leave, I would have then called security to have her and her bag removed from the room. I would've just said: 'I have a guest who refuses to leave. Could you please come and assist'. You are a paying guest of the hotel. The job of the hotel security is exactly that, security of the premises and your Security. I doubt that this would have not worked, regardless of how 'cosy' she is with the security guard.
What made you think she was 'cosy' with the security guard? She certainly was sharp enough on this, picked up on it and cashed in on that vulnerability. [/QUOTE]Yes R Boy in retrospect I came to the same conclusion. I should have given her a 1000, and sent her on her way. It was just a lack of experience on my part. She was friendly with the security guard but I knew what she said about knowing the security guard was BS. Of course I was a paying customer so that means I have the upper hand there But I don't think he would have dealt with the matter with great efficiency as he seemed quite passive and on good terms with the girl. I was more concerned about what would happen after she was kicked out. Probably nothing but there's still that lingering doubt. Cheers.
SH
... Chalk it down as a lesson learnt, for PHP 1000. Not too bad for tuition. I've paid much more.That's exactly the point! 1000 pesos for an excellent lesson are indeed not all too bad! Some guys had paid 10 times as much!
Cheers!
Hesekiels
Fast Eddie 48
05-22-11, 04:03
Attempted to explain (briefly) the above reasoning to her, then offered PHP1000 for ST + PHP100 for her cabfare home. If she refuses to leave, I would have then called security to have her and her bag removed from the room. I would've just said: 'I have a guest who refuses to leave. Could you please come and assist'. You are a paying guest of the hotel. The job of the hotel security is exactly that, security of the premises and your Security. I doubt that this would have not worked, regardless of how 'cosy' she is with the security guard.
What made you think she was 'cosy' with the security guard? She certainly was sharp enough on this, picked up on it and cashed in on that vulnerability. Yes R Boy in retrospect I came to the same conclusion. I should have given her a 1000, and sent her on her way. It was just a lack of experience on my part. She was friendly with the security guard but I knew what she said about knowing the security guard was BS. Of course I was a paying customer so that means I have the upper hand there But I don't think he would have dealt with the matter with great efficiency as he seemed quite passive and on good terms with the girl. I was more concerned about what would happen after she was kicked out. Probably nothing but there's still that lingering doubt. Cheers.
SH[/QUOTE]To SKY.
I don't think 1000 p is worth getting upset about, it might be alot of money for her I would just ask her to give me another BBBJ and CIM or just have her to stay until the morning then give her the 2000 peso, I think you feel cheated.
Because you didn't get to bang her but it not worth getting it if she call the police on you.
Fast Eddie 48
Crazy4Thai
05-22-11, 05:09
KickAss report "Dezzy Haynes"
I'm packing my bags for Manila. My sediments exactly!
I'm based in Thailand and have been considering this side trip for some time.
With all those excellent details, exactly the kind of report I was hoping to find on this thread.
C4T
They invented the phrase " you can't win them all" for such situations. New visitor to LOS (if Thailand is Land Of Smiles, then Phils is Land Of Sharks) can't be expected to know the depth of deviousness some of these gals have. P1000. You were lucky. ! I got played for a lot more than that one day involving a police scam.
But we live to tell the tale, move on and laugh about it. We are guests and the law is against us here. I have been here for three years. Not very long and keep making.
Some mistakes. But I figure its like gambling. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. So its risky but I try to interview and get a sense of the girl before I do anything with them. I usually now don't take a girl the first time I meet her. And then call her again. And then see if I might be interested and if I feel there is a good rapport.
I try to avoid situations but sometimes I am too nice and I get taken. So I look at it like a gambling loss.
I have walked girls out before and had security keep them out. But if you get the wrong girl in the room then.
You can get taken for more and she may be working with the police?
Be careful and be thankful if you only get taken for a small amount. Get pictures and post her information later on any internet site you can to warn us.
FreebieFan
05-22-11, 12:15
Ok maybe I should post this is Taipei section but most of the guys there are more interested in Chinese KTV happenings rather than our Pinay friends.
Anyways recently discovered an art shop near my building and inquired as to whether they sold body paint.
Yes they did so bought various colours and brushes. And this weekend, not once but twice I suggested to my targets that body painting should be something they might enjoy.
Clothes off, laid on a towel and I spent a delightful 20 minutes each time painting swirls stripes dots and whatever on these said ladies. Pics looked great and girls both screamed in similar high pitched tone when they saw the results.
Note, this sadly wasnt a 3 some, rather I was with one pinay one night and another the next day.
Washes off in the shower and both ocassions resulted in a post painting bonk. Just something for the "girl who says she's done everything ".
Oh and if you really want an erotic experience, try buying a litre of cream and let the girl slowly pour that over her body. Most Pinays haven't don't that either!
Chocha Monger
05-22-11, 12:22
Thanks for the feeback Natty. Indeed I can't believe I let her keep my bag in her room now. But you're still giving me too much credit! I still didn't catch on that she was on mens when she wouldn't let me take her trousers off! I just went with the flow, and surprisingly didn't question this fact. If I knew I would have sent her on her way. Yes she just squeezed me for 1000, so not exactly the end of the world. It's just the principle, someone like that thinking they can get one over on you. I was befuddled with drink and beguiled by her beauty (very cute this one although very skinny). Yes I could have gotten another BJ but she pissed me off when I realised that she played me. Anyway just put it down to experience.There might have been another reason why she didn't let you take her pants off. There might have been a little surprise that would have sobered you up pretty quick.
There might have been another reason why she didn't let you take her pants off. There might have been a little surprise that would have sobered you up pretty quick.Yes reading what happened I think that is correct. I know the lady boys here get new guys all the time with BBBJ and the ones I know even have boob jobs and look better than most girls and are skinny as.
So be glad they not call the cops the lady boys have the contacts when they said they know people believe them you are not the first one to want to call the cops. They have it all worked out.
Attempted to explain (briefly) the above reasoning to her, then offered PHP1000 for ST + PHP100 for her cabfare home. If she refuses to leave, I would have then called security to have her and her bag removed from the room. I would've just said: 'I have a guest who refuses to leave. Could you please come and assist'. You are a paying guest of the hotel. The job of the hotel security is exactly that, security of the premises and your Security. I doubt that this would have not worked, regardless of how 'cosy' she is with the security guard.
What made you think she was 'cosy' with the security guard? She certainly was sharp enough on this, picked up on it and cashed in on that vulnerability. Yes R Boy in retrospect I came to the same conclusion. I should have given her a 1000, and sent her on her way. It was just a lack of experience on my part. She was friendly with the security guard but I knew what she said about knowing the security guard was BS. Of course I was a paying customer so that means I have the upper hand there But I don't think he would have dealt with the matter with great efficiency as he seemed quite passive and on good terms with the girl. I was more concerned about what would happen after she was kicked out. Probably nothing but there's still that lingering doubt. Cheers.
SH[/QUOTE]As a visiting foreigner you have no rights whatever whether you are right or wrong. Always try to get out of sticky situations rather than wait for the doomsday attitude. You know what they say about 'when the shit hits the fan! '
When the girl demands money she, immediately it is clear that it is going to get ugly one way or another. My take is it is better to get rid of the girl giving some money. The security guard may throw her out but if she gets the police there is nothing he can do to protect you.
Yes, it is true that giving money to these kind of girls only encourages others to do the same. Fortunately most of the girls are friendly and will accept the pre-arranged price. I have never had problems with any girl demanding money or harrassing me. I always pre-negotiate and give some money for the taxi. Some girls really take the taxi back not the jeepney.
StreetHawk
05-22-11, 17:26
Yes reading what happened I think that is correct. I know the lady boys here get new guys all the time with BBBJ and the ones I know even have boob jobs and look better than most girls and are skinny as.
So be glad they not call the cops the lady boys have the contacts when they said they know people believe them you are not the first one to want to call the cops. They have it all worked out. LOL no she wasn't a bakla. My radar is pretty good with that. The other girl who came after she left was staying in the same room as her at a guest house nearby. She confirmed that she was on the mens.
Dezzy Haynes
05-22-11, 18:37
It is indeed a chain. Great reports BTW. Many of us use this "chain" altho some brothers prefer the more luxurious surroundings of the Dusit. Sorry biro lang for " insiders " LOL. Hope you have a return visit. Your reports make good reading.Cheers man, appreciated. Ermita was the bomb, though I might try a different neck of the woods in PI next time. Then again, I still need to take one from the Gold Coast Bar. Opportunity seriously f*ckin' missed LOL.
BTW what's Dusit? I know the Dusit Thani hotel in Bangkok but I'm guessing that's not what you mean?
Cheers man, appreciated. Ermita was the bomb, though I might try a different neck of the woods in PI next time. Then again, I still need to take one from the Gold Coast Bar. Opportunity seriously f*ckin' missed LOL.
BTW what's Dusit? I know the Dusit Thani hotel in Bangkok but I'm guessing that's not what you mean? There's a Dusit Thani in Makati too.
Dezzy Haynes
05-22-11, 18:50
There's a Dusit Thani in Makati too.Chains everywhere then. Thanks Slipprey, mystery solved. Pretty quick off the mark there!
Dezzy Haynes
05-22-11, 19:51
My sediments exactly!
I'm based in Thailand and have been considering this side trip for some time.
With all those excellent details, exactly the kind of report I was hoping to find on this thread.
C4TAlright mate, missed this (sorry) but might be in LOS again shortly (used to live in Phuket). Cheers man. Will PM if so! Where are you based?
Dez
Chocha Monger
05-23-11, 02:44
Yes reading what happened I think that is correct. I know the lady boys here get new guys all the time with BBBJ and the ones I know even have boob jobs and look better than most girls and are skinny as.
So be glad they not call the cops the lady boys have the contacts when they said they know people believe them you are not the first one to want to call the cops. They have it all worked out. It is amazing that some mongers new to the Philippine scene start drinking like a fish upon landing then go about hobbying in the mist of an alcoholic haze. Guys who do this are liable to find themselves in a situation where they don't know who or what sucked on their junk. For all they know it could have been the chupacabra sucking on their nuts. After what happened to Byung one would think that guys would start wising up and stop trying consume the entire local supply of Johnny Walker and Captain Morgan's when on the prowl for meat.
It is amazing that some mongers new to the Philippine scene start drinking like a fish upon landing then go about hobbying in the mist of an alcoholic haze. Guys who do this are liable to find themselves in a situation where they don't know who or what sucked on their junk. For all they know it could have been the chupacabra sucking on their nuts. After what happened to Byung one would think that guys would start wising up and stop trying consume the entire local supply of Johnny Walker and Captain Morgan's when on the prowl for meat.An SML or two and a couple of bottled waters and my wits are always with me. Some common sense goes a long way. Even at my favorite bar in Manila when they have my favorite 2 for 1 drink, I have two and that's it. Got to keep the radar going all the time there. In AC the boozing just gets stupider and stupider. I lived and learned from that many many years ago in Central America and the DR. AC was like going back to high school. If I didn't know by that trip, then I would never learn .
So for the lady boy experts. Look a this
Petey Peso
05-23-11, 16:59
I want to say thanks to everyone for the information shared here. I've been locked in the USA doing local travel for the last 4 years and I've finally got my tickets to Manila. The last offshore trip I took was in El Salvador and you can read some of my reports from that trip in that forum. The last time I was in Manila was in 2004 for two months. It was the first time I had traveled offshore for work and as a typical noob would do, I went nutz. I paid and tipped like I was in the states and it didn't take long to earn the nickname Petey Peso. To be frank, the company was giving a straight cash per diem and it all felt like monopoly money to me. This time, the per diem is based on actual receipts so I am going to be more frugal. Do any of you know if you can charge a bar fine in Burgos to a credit card? It would be hilarious if I could truly claim a DATY session as an actual work meal. LOL.
I'll be there for 2 weeks from June 14th to the 29th. The company is footing the bill so I'm staying at the Makati Shangri-La. The annoying this is that I work EST hours, so I'll be at work from 8pm till 5am. My thought is that I go out the first night I get there (I arrive at 11pm) , pick up someone at Havana or at Burgos, but get numbers from girls I meet that night to setup meetings during the daytime when I'm off work. I haven't read a lot of availability for good talent when going out in Makati during the day. If there is a good spot for this, by all means, let me know. Maybe I missed something in the reports.
Hopefully during my stay I'll get the chance to meet up with some of you while I'm there and thank you for your reports personally.
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