Manila

[Stroker Ace88]

Breaking News for all you guys for whom 200 pesos is important.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/from-p750--naia-terminal-fee-rolled-back-to-p550.htmlRed Kilt,

Hmm interesting post and I wonder if this means the domestic terminal fee will also be reduced by 200p, thus making it free? Char! I know that's not going to happen but hey, a 200p reduction for International pax is a nice bonus.

If I am not mistaken, the pic posted with the report is listed as Terminal 1 but sure looks like the newer Terminal 3.

[BKKguru]

Unfortunately, it will not help those flying back from MNL in January. :(

1) Does the departure fee have to paid in Cash only? Or do they accept credit cards?

2) For departure, how much time should I budget to clear Immigration etc? My flight leaves at 12.25 pm on a weekday.

If I reach the Airport at 10.30 am, does that give me enough time to catch my flight?

Thanks!


Breaking News for all you guys for whom 200 pesos is important.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/from-p750--naia-terminal-fee-rolled-back-to-p550.html

[FreebieFan]

Breaking News for all you guys for whom 200 pesos is important.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/from-p750--naia-terminal-fee-rolled-back-to-p550.htmlEvery p200 helps. After one of my recent trips (when I was tired, broke, semi drunk LOL) I got to the x ray machine and was somewhat frustrated that there were no bins for putting a pc or belt or shoes in. I asked the guard what the departure fee was for, as there were no bins, escalators, and moving walkways were all turned off. I got the expected blank look, I asked the guy operating the xray, he said " its what people pay ".

Asked the Supervisor there andhe smartassingly he replied " if you don't pay it you can't leave "

Truth is no one knows why we pay it, but we do.

Long time back in the old airport, you used to have to rent a trolley.

One worthy jounalist worked to find out where the money went. It was determined to be a charity that was registered as a charity.

However, the owner of the charity was found to be an ex Head of Manila Police and he was given the right to collect the trolley money for 5 years as a means of "thanks for doing a good job".

So who knows where the departure fee really goes.

[Red Kilt]

Red Kilt,

Hmm interesting post and I wonder if this means the domestic terminal fee will also be reduced by 200p, thus making it free? Char! I know that's not going to happen but hey, a 200p reduction for International pax is a nice bonus. .Bad luck Stroker.

The quote mentions. ."Honrado clarified that terminal fee for domestic passengers would remain at P200 because only international passengers were affected by the terminal fee increase in 2007."

Doesn't matter if it is Terminal 1, 2 or 3. The travel tax was levied on ALL international flights.

For those cheering this announcement, I hope you spend the (saved) $4.50 USD wisely LOL.

FF. You can have an extra pie at Howzat! next trip.

I agree with the BM who asked why the "fee" isn't included in the ticket price as occurs in most other countries and has been for years.
It adds significantly to the already distressing Philippines airport experience to have to line up (again) to pay a 200 or 750 peso fee.
Oh well.

[X Man]

Another human is employed and that is a good thing in a country like the Philippines.

Speaking of airport. The meter taxi line at mnl terminal 3 has become extremely long. I patiently waited once, but flying in from Cebu I took the fixed rate to malate at 530. On the meter it is about 200.


. Snip.

Why the "fee" isn't included in the ticket price as occurs in most other countries and has been for years.

It adds significantly to the already distressing Philippines airport experience to have to line up (again) to pay a 200 or 750 peso fee.

Oh well.

[Stroker Ace88]

I agree with the BM who asked why the "fee" isn't included in the ticket price as occurs in most other countries and has been for years. It adds significantly to the already distressing Philippines airport experience to have to line up (again) to pay a 200 or 750 peso fee.Based on the comments by filipinos on the yahoo link they are not even aware that in other parts of the World the terminal fee is still there included in the ticket price to smooth-line procedures.

The thing that takes so much time IMO is when you are behind a group of Korean or Chinese pax who are not prepared to pay the fee. They argue and some will refuse to pay the fee. When they are finally 'convinced' by the guard they need to pay or they do not fly they relent and start to gather the fee in change and small bills. One guy did not have the 750p so he went for the $17. 50US and took out a small bag from his carry-on that held US currency in change! Took the guy 10mins for him to pay and by then the line was half way down the terminal. I have seen that a few times.

[GoodEnough]

Remember that in the Philippines, one of the cardinal rules of business is that no one trusts anyone with money, and that most of the systems are pervasively corrupt. That being the case, the collection of airport departure fees in cash makes perfect sense. Given that these are all cash transactions, there's amply opportunity to steal. Plus, the revenues are immediate, which means that the Airport Authority doesn't have to wait for airlines to fork over the cash. Finally, there's not opportunity for the airline management to lie about how much has been collected and from how many passengers. Making life easy for consumers is not even a consideration, as anyone who has ever shopped here for anything can attest.

GE

[Mc Don]

Remember that in the Philippines, one of the cardinal rules of business is that no one trusts anyone with money, and that most of the systems are pervasively corrupt. That being the case, the collection of airport departure fees in cash makes perfect sense. Given that these are all cash transactions, there's amply opportunity to steal. Plus, the revenues are immediate, which means that the Airport Authority doesn't have to wait for airlines to fork over the cash. Finally, there's not opportunity for the airline management to lie about how much has been collected and from how many passengers. Making life easy for consumers is not even a consideration, as anyone who has ever shopped here for anything can attest.

GEPlus they get to employ few hundred more people on slave wage all across the Land of Shopping Malls. Win win for them, screw the tourist, locals are use to waiting anyway and if a foreigner takes multiple trips he waists enough time to do one less short time bf.

[Red Kilt]

Speaking of airport. The meter taxi line at mnl terminal 3 has become extremely long. I patiently waited once, but flying in from Cebu I took the fixed rate to malate at 530. On the meter it is about 200.You're right X Man, but it seems to depend on what time you arrive and whether an international flight has beaten you to the jump.

Just last week on Jan 2 I arrived at T3 and there was nobody in the line and around 20 yellow cabs lined up.

6 days later my better half arrived at the same time and the line was 100 meters long. She jumped onto the "fixed rate" cab and left immediately. Big difference in fares though (290 php yellow vs 660 php fixed rate) but worth it in terms of convenience.

Sometimes if the yellow cab line has (say) 20 or 30 people ahead of you it pays to see if the empty cabs are rolling into the line. They tend to move the line fairly quickly if the replacement cabs are coming frequently.

[Slippery]

Every time I pay that in cash I wonder where it is going. All other countries that I have been to, the departure tax is built into your ticket. Notwithstanding that, in DR your entry fee is required to be paid in cash. Geez, where's that going?

[GoodEnough]

Every time I pay that in cash I wonder where it is going. All other countries that I have been to, the departure tax is built into your ticket. Notwithstanding that, in DR your entry fee is required to be paid in cash. Geez, where's that going?No one knows. Some to airport improvement, some to improving the lifestyles and material possessions of those who can get their hands on the cash. It's only the percentages that are uncertain.

[Sintrav]

Every time I pay that in cash I wonder where it is going. All other countries that I have been to, the departure tax is built into your ticket. Notwithstanding that, in DR your entry fee is required to be paid in cash. Geez, where's that going?And the story goes like this.

Originally the airport fee was build into the ticket price as in most other countries.

However the government department collecting all these founds did not forward it to the airport authorities. Just a normal philippine thing haha.

So they started to collect the fee by themselves. Can't remember, must have been in the mid to late nineties.

[Snow Koala]

Well the Exit Fee certainly does not go into upgrading Terminal 1. It is regularly voted one of the worlds worst terminals. Go NAIA!

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/15661/naia-1-is-rated-worlds-worst-airport

http://www.dealies.ph/14251-naia-terminal-1-named-as-the-worlds-worst-airport-for-2011-minsan-na-nga-lang-maging-1-in-the-world-worst-pa/

Snow.


And the story goes like this.

Originally the airport fee was build into the ticket price as in most other countries.

However the government department collecting all these founds did not forward it to the airport authorities. Just a normal philippine thing haha.

So they started to collect the fee by themselves. Can't remember, must have been in the mid to late nineties.

[Hyron Hush]

Well the Exit Fee certainly does not go into upgrading Terminal 1. It is regularly voted one of the worlds worst terminals. Go NAIA!

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/15661/naia-1-is-rated-worlds-worst-airport

http://www.dealies.ph/14251-naia-terminal-1-named-as-the-worlds-worst-airport-for-2011-minsan-na-nga-lang-maging-1-in-the-world-worst-pa/

Snow.Greetings,

I certainly don't want to defend NAIA but I think it's fair to consider that the poll rating it as "the worst" that caused so much media uproar is based on user reviews specifically with regards to sleeping at the respective airports (to quote the original site: "This list intended for travellers who plan to sleep in or transit through the airport"). For a developing country with so many more pressing issues, I always found it still bearable with normal arrivals and departures. I instead suck in "positive airport experience" during my Hong Kong stopover, and I'm not sleeping there either.

A national inferiority complex is rooted strongly in the Filipino soul. Whenever something foreign rates something Filipino as the worst, well, it must be true and is accepted with little reflection.

Regards,

H2

[Fast Buck Artist]

NAIA is certainly no Changi or HK international, but I must say its a lot better managed than most other places in Philippines! I am yet to lose a luggage or wait longer than 40 minutes (from enter the terminal door to put ass on plane seat time). I can name several american airports where you could wait 2 hours to do that.

My biggest gripe with NAIA is how long it takes to get to it through manila traffic. An MRT extension to bring a train to the airport would be nice and get a lot of cars off the road.

The second gripe is they dont clearly advertise all the CASH fees to be paid in pesos on departure. Naturally travelers get rid of all their pesos before leaving, since pesos are useless outside of Philippines, and then find themselves with no means to pay at the departure fee booth. The immigration booth can also have a "surprise" for you, for example a hidden clearance fee they charge for people who stayed over 6(?) months, also payable in pesos cash only.


Greetings.

I certainly don't want to defend NAIA but I think it's fair to consider that the poll rating it as "the worst" that caused so much media uproar is based on user reviews specifically with regards to sleeping at the respective airports

[Gentleman]

Hi fellow mongers,

Just a quick note to introduce myself. I have been on another forum / ISG since 2003, originally in China then Malaysia, then the US, now Manila.

Another forum has been a great resource, and I have always been happy to help other mongers as well seek the help of the network.

Just wanted to drop a quick post with a summary of experiences in the Manila area over the past few months.

1. Freebie. Picked up a chick at Palladium night club in the New World Hotel. Lots of freebie chicks around there, some pro. This girl was a student out with her friends. I had been grinding her on the dance floor. When her friends went home, I bought her a few drinks and took her back home. BBBJ, doggy, the works. Only cost me a cab fare to get her back home. I am already looking forward to our day trip to Tagaytay next week.

2. Last year, went to Pegasus on Quezon Ave. The live band in the KTV area upstairs was actually quite good. They also play the New World Hotel lobby. Surprisingly. I then went down to the massage parlor / spa downstairs. Girl selection was pretty bad. 5 or 6 out of 10 at best. Worst attitude ever, bossy, aggressive. The basic room was actually less than basic and you had to cross the corridor (!) to take a shower. Terrible. I will never go there again.

3. Flight 168 and AF1. Feels like it has quieted down quite a lot. The new viewing setup there is also less than optimal. Makes me feel like the one being chosen rather than the other way around. The quality of girls has also dropped IMHO. And the increasing number of Koreans and Japanese going there puts me off a bit. Ended up having some over priced snacks and drinks in the bar downstairs. This place used to be much better, but rooms remain good quality. Like motel.

4. Went to Roman Suites recently on Pasay Road in Makati. Shut down. I guess part of the overall crackdown. Pity. It was so centrally located for many folks.

5. Went to the Pharao KTV place near Makati Cinema Square. Nothing special. Average girls, damp smell, generally low quality environment. I wouldn't bother if I were you

I continue to explore Manila and happy to share more stories and tips. Where I would like to reach out to you all fellow mongers is with regard to getting in touch with a high end handler. I mean the brokers who can get you the really good stuff. I often have good reason to celebrate and want to treat myself to something really good. Has anyone used the handlers before. Anyone you can recommend? Please ping me by PM if you can help.

Thanks another forum!

G-man

[Gentleman]

In my experience, and I travel a lot across Asia, NAIA is one of the worst airports in Asia.

I recently travelled to Vietnam and even their airport is better than what NAIA has to offer.

All major SE Asian countries have upgraded to world class airports. Bangkok, KL, not to mention Singapore.

Only Jakarta seems to be nearly as bad as NAIA.

The airport fee is a joke. And I wonder how much of that PhP3. 9B they raised over the past few years for the so-called security upgrade has actually been used for that purpose. The airport business class lounges are also a disgrace, and the worst I have seen of airlines like SQ and Thai.

Last but not least, I find the exit fee for foreign residents even worse. Paying almost 50 USD every time you exit the Philippines is just plain wrong, especially considering that the foreigners who are asked to pay this fee are more likely ones of companies that create jobs in the Philippines and pay taxes. Doesn't really encourage foreign investment IMHO.


NAIA is certainly no Changi or HK international, but I must say its a lot better managed than most other places in Philippines! I am yet to lose a luggage or wait longer than 40 minutes (from enter the terminal door to put ass on plane seat time). I can name several american airports where you could wait 2 hours to do that.

My biggest gripe with NAIA is how long it takes to get to it through manila traffic. An MRT extension to bring a train to the airport would be nice and get a lot of cars off the road.

The second gripe is they don't clearly advertise all the CASH fees to be paid in pesos on departure. Naturally travelers get rid of all their pesos before leaving, since pesos are useless outside of Philippines, and then find themselves with no means to pay at the departure fee booth. The immigration booth can also have a "surprise" for you, for example a hidden clearance fee they charge for people who stayed over 6 (?) months, also payable in pesos cash only.

[Ogman]

Geez! I am coming to the area next month and will hopefully get this discussion back on track. I never saw so many people talking about airports. I guess I have to check TripAdvisor to learn how to get laid in Manila! Just joshing but lets start providing something mongers can use.

[Mackin]

Just to clarify, to leave Phils it is 750 P at the airport. About $17. 00 USA Not 50. 00 US. At lest it was and has been that for me.

[D Cups]

Ya, the fee is stupid but at least you can get a decent massage at the airport. No hanky-panky tho.


In my experience, and I travel a lot across Asia, NAIA is one of the worst airports in Asia.

I recently travelled to Vietnam and even their airport is better than what NAIA has to offer.

All major SE Asian countries have upgraded to world class airports. Bangkok, KL, not to mention Singapore.

Only Jakarta seems to be nearly as bad as NAIA.

The airport fee is a joke. And I wonder how much of that PhP3. 9B they raised over the past few years for the so-called security upgrade has actually been used for that purpose. The airport business class lounges are also a disgrace, and the worst I have seen of airlines like SQ and Thai.

Last but not least, I find the exit fee for foreign residents even worse. Paying almost 50 USD every time you exit the Philippines is just plain wrong, especially considering that the foreigners who are asked to pay this fee are more likely ones of companies that create jobs in the Philippines and pay taxes. Doesn't really encourage foreign investment IMHO.

[Sammon]

In my experience, and I travel a lot across Asia, NAIA is one of the worst airports in Asia.

I recently travelled to Vietnam and even their airport is better than what NAIA has to offer.

All major SE Asian countries have upgraded to world class airports. Bangkok, KL, not to mention Singapore.

Only Jakarta seems to be nearly as bad as NAIA.

The airport fee is a joke. Paying almost 50 USD every time you exit the Philippines is just plain wrong, especially considering that the foreigners who are asked to pay this fee are more likely ones of companies that create jobs in the Philippines and pay taxes. Doesn't really encourage foreign investment IMHO.I do not know where you get the $50 figure. The fee is 750 pesos or approx less than $20. NAIA is not bad really bad. Never had any problems. All flights left on time. The new domestic airport combined with international flights on Cebu Pacific is pretty good except they have not fixed the jetway yet. It looks modern enough.

You cannot expect ultra modern airport in poor countries. In reality there is no need. BKK gets loads of tourist traffic compared NAIA.

[Sir Lancelot]

I am researching a three week trip to Philippines in March. It will be my second trip and after my first, I posted a 20, 000+ word field report (with photos) on various pages throughout this site. Before this post, I read back 100 pages on this thread. I'd like to start by thanking all of you who have provided so much useful info.

On my last trip, LA Cafe (as it was then called) was a good hunting ground. I loved the excitement of the bear-pit downstairs and met some fantastic girls upstairs too. If I can find the likes of big-boobed Jessica, the wonderful Lina (who could tie a knot in a cherry-stalk by using just her tongue) , my go-to Stella and 'Amazonian Princess' who gave me wild pornstar sex (she bit me!) , I'm in for a great time. All of whom were written about at length in my field report.

I have read that ST1500 / LT2000 is the going rate these days and while I think there are variations depending on the age / prettiness of girl, number of customers, time of night etc. The most important factor as Mc Don pointed out a couple of months ago, is how much the girl THINKS she can get. This is a problem for me because whereas I'm sure that they know better than to quote 3, 000 to experienced looking guys like lots of you, I find that since I am in my thirties and have skin whiter than Michael Jackson, the girls see me as a newcomer and open up with a sky-high price.

So I'd like to know what your modus operandi is in Manila Bay Cafe. What time do you go, where is your preferred vantage point and most importantly, how do you ensure you pay the right price?

[Stroker Ace88]

NAIA is certainly no Changi or HK international, but I must say its a lot better managed than most other places in Philippines! I am yet to lose a luggage or wait longer than 40 minutes (from enter the terminal door to put ass on plane seat time).NAIA terminal 2 which is leased by PAL is the worst. PAL is a SNAFU airline and schedules alot of flights to destinations in China, Japan, and USA-Canada from 1-4pm resulting in long lines for checkin and to pay the terminal fee. I am a mabuhay miles member and avail of the priority checkin which saves alot of frustration and time.

PAL recently purged all of the older checkin staff and hired what can be best described as call center employees to take over the task of checkin and gate organization and that's a shame. Service with the new 'Sky Logistics' staff sucks to put it mildly. I used to really like travelling with PAL but find the lack of service a reason to fly Cebu Pacific more.


My biggest gripe with NAIA is how long it takes to get to it through manila traffic. An MRT extension to bring a train to the airport would be nice and get a lot of cars off the road.The government recently announced they are planning a small MRT for NAIA but only to link terminal 1 and 2 with terminal 3. Linking the airport to the over-all MRT system in Manila makes too much sense and doesn't fit in with the over-all theme of plunder and short term thinking everyone knows and loves. In reality someone somewhere in the Government is getting payments from the fixed rate taxi's to opperate a monopoly and building a link to the MRT system would upset the gravy train.


The second gripe is they dont clearly advertise all the CASH fees to be paid in pesos on departure. Naturally travelers get rid of all their pesos before leaving, since pesos are useless outside of Philippines, and then find themselves with no means to pay at the departure fee booth. The immigration booth can also have a "surprise" for you, for example a hidden clearance fee they charge for people who stayed over 6(?) months, also payable in pesos cash only.If you over stayed your 21 day visa without getting the proper extentions, you will be charged the visa fees when you depart the Philippines. They will get the fees one way or another. Also if you over stayed your 21 day tourist visa by months instead of days you could be put on an immigration watch list. The next time you enter the Philippines you will be subject to closer inspection and if you try to enter without a confirmed return ticket you have two choices. Be refused entry or be forced to buy a return ticket on the spot with an airline at full fare price. If you try to enter with a return ticket that is dated in excess of the 21 day allowance they will ask you to pay the visa extention fees on the spot before being allowed in.

If you payed for the proper visa extentions while you were in the Philippines and you were still charged a fee when you left I dunno what happened there.

[FreebieFan]

Geez! I am coming to the area next month and will hopefully get this discussion back on track. I never saw so many people talking about airports. I guess I have to check TripAdvisor to learn how to get laid in Manila! Just joshing but lets start providing something mongers can use.You maybe a little less experienced than some of us here, in discussions about pussy in Manila. Our chats verge (or "swerve") all over the place. In past few years we have talked about car radios, how to get car licence, baggage allowance, airport fees, pussy, getting laid in public places, angry husbands, MMDA enforcers, best cheap cellphones, where to buy bikinis, getting laid in cinemas in the old days, STD's, how much to tip or not, where to find bi's, best hair dye etc. We discuss all sortsd but the discussion starts and finishes with pussy. Don't worry, all the info you need is here.

[Fast Buck Artist]

This is a problem for me because whereas I'm sure that they know better than to quote 3, 000 to experienced looking guys like lots of you, I find that since I am in my thirties and have skin whiter than Michael Jackson, the girls see me as a newcomer and open up with a sky-high price.

So I'd like to know what your modus operandi is in Manila Bay Cafe. What time do you go, where is your preferred vantage point and most importantly, how do you ensure you pay the right price?Lance,

There isn't really a "right" price, it's what you agree between you and the girl. I got offers as low as 500 for ST and as high as 3000. Manila Bay Cafe is getting quickly spoiled by korean and japanese clientele. The 3x3x3 deal is too good to pass up for the best looking girls, and they go straight for the japanese, leaving the uglies to entertain the rest of us. Malate in general is a seedy area with bottom of the ladder ladies. Many are on drugs, chain smokers, were in good shape many pregnancies ago. Don't expect quality here. If you are on a budget though and not too fussy about who you are taking out, you can find 1000php service here without looking too long.

[Sammon]

I am researching a three week trip to Philippines in March. It will be my second trip and after my first, I posted a 20, 000+ word field report (with photos) on various pages throughout this site. Before this post, I read back 100 pages on this thread. I'd like to start by thanking all of you who have provided so much useful info.

On my last trip, LA Cafe (as it was then called) was a good hunting ground. I loved the excitement of the bear-pit downstairs and met some fantastic girls upstairs too. If I can find the likes of big-boobed Jessica, the wonderful Lina (who could tie a knot in a cherry-stalk by using just her tongue) , my go-to Stella and 'Amazonian Princess' who gave me wild pornstar sex (she bit me!) , I'm in for a great time. All of whom were written about at length in my field report.

I have read that ST1500 / LT2000 is the going rate these days and while I think there are variations depending on the age / prettiness of girl, number of customers, time of night etc. The most important factor as Mc Don pointed out a couple of months ago, is how much the girl THINKS she can get. This is a problem for me because whereas I'm sure that they know better than to quote 3, 000 to experienced looking guys like lots of you, I find that since I am in my thirties and have skin whiter than Michael Jackson, the girls see me as a newcomer and open up with a sky-high price.

So I'd like to know what your modus operandi is in Manila Bay Cafe. What time do you go, where is your preferred vantage point and most importantly, how do you ensure you pay the right price?1. Sit on the side tables. As you enter it is on the right. It gives you a good view to check out all the girls entering or rotating. Do not sit at the round barchairs. You do that only if you are watching the sports on TV.

2. Once in a while go walk around to check out the girls who are not rotating. They seem content in sitting at one spot all night. These are the shy types.

3. If you want to talk to any girl just wave her over and chat and discuss your requirements and price. If agreed leave. There is no real need to buy them a drink or tip them for sitting with you although they ask.

4. ST rates are generally 1000-1500. LT rates are 1500-2500 depending on the girl.

5. It is better to pick girls from outside Manila for LT. They will not run. These province girls tend to be more GFE.

6. Ofcourse the best looking girl may not provide best service.

7. Girls upstairs tend to be prima donnas and demand higher prices with no guarantee of good sex. If you find a nice girl downstairs you can take her upstairs for dancing. The bands are good.

8. Avoid any mamasans or ugly hags offering you girls. All girls there are cousins or best friends they say. In reality it is casual at best. Some have real girlfriends and offer a threesome.

[WhatsUrName]

I am researching a three week trip to Philippines in March. It will be my second trip and after my first, I posted a 20, 000+ word field report (with photos) on various pages throughout this site. Before this post, I read back 100 pages on this thread. I'd like to start by thanking all of you who have provided so much useful info.

On my last trip, LA Cafe (as it was then called) was a good hunting ground. I loved the excitement of the bear-pit downstairs and met some fantastic girls upstairs too. If I can find the likes of big-boobed Jessica, the wonderful Lina (who could tie a knot in a cherry-stalk by using just her tongue) , my go-to Stella and 'Amazonian Princess' who gave me wild pornstar sex (she bit me!) , I'm in for a great time. All of whom were written about at length in my field report.

I have read that ST1500 / LT2000 is the going rate these days and while I think there are variations depending on the age / prettiness of girl, number of customers, time of night etc. The most important factor as Mc Don pointed out a couple of months ago, is how much the girl THINKS she can get. This is a problem for me because whereas I'm sure that they know better than to quote 3, 000 to experienced looking guys like lots of you, I find that since I am in my thirties and have skin whiter than Michael Jackson, the girls see me as a newcomer and open up with a sky-high price.

So I'd like to know what your modus operandi is in Manila Bay Cafe. What time do you go, where is your preferred vantage point and most importantly, how do you ensure you pay the right price?Ahhhhhhh. Manila Bay Cafe. One of my favorite places. At least for the first 3 days. LOL. One thing about the MBC is that it gets old really quickly.

I was there for a couple of days last month. This was my 7th year visiting. Stayed at Cherry Blossoms next to the mall. Back up plan was to stay at the City State Hotel. I've stayed at both in the past and like them. I was happy with my room and the hotel overall.

If I'm going to MBC before 5PM, I like to hang out in the back and shoot a game of pool or two, socialize, flirt, drink beer, pick a girl, take her back to Cherry Blossoms for ST, come back to MBC, repeat. I typically pay 1500 ST for two pops and negotiate this in advance. As many have pointed out, they would probably take less. They often throw out 2000 ST, but rarely, if ever have they turned down my 1500 for ST during the day. These girls are lean, cute and definitely not bottom of the barrel.

I take a nap in the afternoon. After 8PM, I typically hang out downstairs, perhaps getting myself a bar stool and sit there on the boundary of the pool area just outside the girl's restroom. I also like to stand at the base of the stairs, in that little nook between the bar and the stairs and up against the wall. After it gets crowded and hot downstairs, I head upstairs to watch the band. Around 9PM onwards, I like the hotties on the second floor there in the middle. I'll pay 2500 LT for these top notch ladies. You'll have to approach these girls. They won't approach you by and large.

I did this last month and took home this smoking hot Filipina with long, gorgeous blond hair, full makeup, and an evening dress. I'm not normally into the blond Filipina thing, but this girl was a hottie. In bed, she was a pornstar and very GFE.

She was hanging out on the second floor in front of the band. She was with this ugly ass friend who tried to muscle in on our "Transaction". The ugly friend demanded 2500 each for a threesome. Frankly, I didn't want to fuck the friend at all, even for free. The friend was pretty pushy, but I put my foot down and firmly threatened to pass on the both of them. She relented, and off I went with Pamela Anderson. She was worth every penny. 2500. I am still thinking about it.

[Sir Lancelot]

@Fast Buck Artist, Sammon & WhatsUrName. Thanks for your responses.

FastBuck – I did notice that a lot of the best looking girls were in the Japanese / Korean area on the right at the top of the stairs. It was interesting how different their process was. Everyone other customer in MBC (or LA Café as it was then) gets a drink and strikes up a conversation with a girl and yet they sit in their own area and need someone to act as gobetween, fetching the girls from the sidelines. When the girl sat opposite them it resembled a job interview. I went to a gogo bar in Cebu and remember being sat at the bar, eyeing the talent. Two young Korean guys came in, spoke to a member of staff and within seconds all of the girls lined up in front of the Korean guys. I remember thinking 'woah, that's not how gogo bars work! ' but in fairness, they cherry-picked the best two girls in there! Maybe there is method to their madness. (as for Japanese customers, I'm sure they have an ap for their I-phones to find the best girls first).

Sammon – thanks for the good advice. I agree that sitting on the tables to the right when you first walk in is a good place to be. It's somewhere to see the girls entering / moving between floors where it is easy to intercept them as they walk past. I secured a great looker two years ago from those very stools. It was funny, as I was chatting with her, two others girls I'the f*ed earlier in the trip were within a two meter radius at the bar, just behind her – only at LA Café! Another spot I found is near the pool table on the ground floor, next to the ladies toilets. I noticed that almost without exception, when a girl arrives at MBC they go to the toilet to 'freshen up'. It's a great place to see girls arriving.

WhatsUrName – cheers mate. I like your idea of going early evening, negotiating short-time with a cutie and then returning later for another girl. May as well make the most of the place while you're there! It seems that 1500ST is the going rate. Sounds like you had a good time – I'll look out for Pamela Anderson while I am there.

On a sidenote, I love MBC (LA Café as it was when I went) but sometimes the Filipino equivalent of the 'butterfly effect' takes hold and I feel the urge to try somewhere else for an hour. On my last trip I popped in to LA Annexe, G-Point and Amazonia for a beer but wasn't impressed. LA was VERY quiet, G-Point was okay but I saw nothing to take my fancy (apart from the lead singer of the band that was playing!) and Amazonia was quiet with a few pushy girls. Are these places still dead? Any recommendations of other places in Ermita that might be worth checking out?

I also have another question. I have always been a fan of massage parlours and it seems on this forum that Air Force 1 is my best bet in Manila. It seems a bit out of the way and pricey but is it worth the trip?

[Cool Traveler]

Older Women versus younger.

I have been going to Phillipines for couple of years now. I always ended up with girls averaging 23 years. Firm tits and ass, nice tummy, and can never get enough.

In my last trip, through DIA, I decided to try an older girl / woman. This is my report of that:

Date of trip: Jan 7th. 2012.

Location: Makati, Manila.

Hotel: New World.

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I spent couple of days just before departure trolling DIA for 30 to 38 year olds. Don't ask me why I picked that range, I just did. Picked one that looked pretty on the picture. You know many a times, the picture and the real person are completely two different things.

The woman was very forthcoming, and did not take too long to talk about sex. She badly needed sex. So, I made arrangements, she wanted to come during the day. I quickly surmised this was because she is married. And when she arrived at the room, she did have a wedding ring.

She arrived at 9 am. She called me from downstairs, had her come up. Opened my hotel door (New World Hotel in Makati) , we chit chatted for approximately a minute, and I quickly kissed her, and within couple of minutes, we were in bed. She smelled freshly washed. I was in my shorts with a raging hard on. I took a 25 mg Viagra a little earlier.

She was pleasingly good looking. You know one of those nice looking mommy's with nice tits, a little heavy, but so nicely shaped.

She spent next hour or so, on my cock, balls and ass. I had never been rimmed before. And what she did with her lips and tongue down there was just. Hmmm. Very very nice. Did my best not to cum, but I did. She swallowed.

Then she got on top, and rode me for a while and came. I had her off, and then did doggy and pounded her. With a little cushion, it was nice pounding. Then got off, she went back to sucking my cock, licking my balls and rimming me. The whole time, she wanted me to watch her. She then climbed on top of me again and came a second time. I had her ride me a little bit more, and pulled out, she sucked and swallowed a second time.

She left about 1 PM. I offered to buy her lunch which she refused. I ended forcing about 1000P on her. Boy, the guilt! &61514;

Conclusion: It is different. With a younger girl, I had to do more work. With this woman, all I did was lay back, and she did everything. Not sure if I will get another older woman soon, but will definitely get one occasionally.

By the way, the 25 mg Viagra is pretty good. It works well, and lasts about 4 hours. Your dick comes down, but quickly comes back up really realy hard when you need in a 6 hour period. Very easy to get at small pharmacies in Phils. Look for RX sign on the window followed by Viagra. The ones I got were genuine thing.

[Cool Traveler]

Location: Manila.

Area: Forgot the hotel name already, the one next to St. Giles. Very nice hotel with new beds. Well Burgos area.

Viagra.

I am a very shy person. So going to a Pharmacy and asking for Viagra is not the easiest thing to do for me. But on my last trip, I sucked up, and did just that.

I did write briefly in my other post, but this is for those 'chickens' like me.

From this forum I learned that you could get Viagra without prescription in Manila. Looked for a Pharmacy, found one in Burgos area, right close to where Pussycat is located. On the window, they had a 8x11 print that said RX Viagra. 25 mg. 50 mg and 100 mg. I went asked for antacid, paused and then asked for Viagra. Without hesitating the gal asked what weight, I said 25 mg, she said 500 pesos. I bought two 25 mg pills. She showed me the box, and told me they are the original, pulled a strip out, cut two and gave it to me. I paid and quickly left.

Note: Don't go to those chain types, look for those independent type pharmacies.

Did it work you ask? Yup, like a charm. Better than the knock off pill I bought in Singapore. Worked exactly like advertised.

The first pill I used, I did in the day time with no alcohol involved.

The second pill I used, I did it after a few drinks, at night. I was doing a threesome with two girls I picked up at Havana. It did not work. I fell asleep. But I got up in the middle of night (3am?) , with a raging hard on. Woke one of the girls up, and pounded her to glory.

Note to self: Do not take Viagra if you have had one too many San Miguel!

[WestCoast1]

I did this last month and took home this smoking hot Filipina with long, gorgeous blond hair, full makeup, and an evening dress. I'm not normally into the blond Filipina thing, but this girl was a hottie. In bed, she was a pornstar and very GFE.

She was hanging out on the second floor in front of the band. She was with this ugly ass friend who tried to muscle in on our "Transaction". The ugly friend demanded 2500 each for a threesome. Frankly, I didn't want to fuck the friend at all, even for free. The friend was pretty pushy, but I put my foot down and firmly threatened to pass on the both of them. She relented, and off I went with Pamela Anderson. She was worth every penny. 2500. I am still thinking about it.Great report, nice detail.

[Mongerer69]

The Exit Fee is being reduced to P550 I believe effective February 1st. The extra P200 was for Airport Security Renovation Fees done over the past 5 or so years. I guess they think they are finished.


Just to clarify, to leave Phils it is 750 P at the airport. About $17. 00 USA Not 50. 00 US. At lest it was and has been that for me.

[Ogman]

Greetings! Will spend a day in Manila (1st time). A natural sweater, I found the soapie massages of BKK a wonderful way to freshen up and enjoy some FS all in the same 90 minutes. Are there any such places in Manila (or AC)? As a newbie, I'd be interested in any tips on how a great morning or afternoon is spent in either town. I am mainly focused on activities that end with a good FS session! Happy Lunar New Years!

[Mongerer69]

soapy massage in manila is not as easily found as in bangkok. i used to go to roman suites in makati behind new world and that was always good in a pinch for p1, 000. you can try "craigslist manila" under therapedic section. there are alot of massage offerings there some freelance but most agencies. as long as you are in craigslist check out "casual encounters" every time i come to town i get at least 1 good freebee out of there. the last 2 times, i put an ad on there for men seeking woman and hit the jackpot with responses, photos and plenty of piany pussy some married that wanted to be wined dined fucked and treated like a lady. this has never failed me i have a list of numbers and plenty of correspondence with these gals.


greetings! will spend a day in manila (1st time). a natural sweater, i found the soapie massages of bkk a wonderful way to freshen up and enjoy some fs all in the same 90 minutes. are there any such places in manila (or ac)? as a newbie, i'd be interested in any tips on how a great morning or afternoon is spent in either town. i am mainly focused on activities that end with a good fs session! happy lunar new years!

[D Cups]

They do soapies at Air Force One but too expensive IMO. Maybe we should start carrying our own air mattresses and liquid soap.

[Teacup]

Wednesday afternoon at about 3-00 and LAC / MBC was pretty crowded with a 20/1 ration in favor of the hunters. Standard issues in the place . Not enough waitresses, my throat was dryer than a frenchman's towel as I was waiting for a beer; smoke (they were trying to fix the a / see and filters) ; quality of girls. It really was not that great. The ones that were decent failed to make eye contact, and then when a goup of Koreans walked in they were like moths to a flame.

The smoke got the better of me, and I decided to do one round through Amazonia, one block north. There is news from there. The really old girls seem to have been moved on, and that is no bad thing. I played a couple of games of pool with three girls before choosing a 26 year old 5'1" cutie with very acceptable boobs (name escapes me) , but was of decent enough to work LAC / MBC succesfully, and way above what Amazonia had before. BTW, the other guys in there at the time were 50-ish casual non-mongers (at least not agressive mongers).

Back to my hotel, and young wassername really delivered. Directed oral, a little light rimming, MPFS and the culminations was a massive facial load that caused only a gentle rebuke. She blanked me on being able to break down the back door, however. I gave her 1200 and she was gone within the hour (my choice).

Next day, wandering into Robinsons, I got the old, 'hey, you know my I am security at your hotel! ' thing from a tubby POS that couldn't secure water in a sink. 'That's right, ' I said 'Do you have that 1, 000 pesos I gave you for your boyfriend's rent? ' (I have a loud voice, too). As he ran away from me, I called after him about his boyfriend. Funny old town.

[Stroker Ace88]

The Exit Fee is being reduced to P550 I believe effective February 1st. The extra P200 was for Airport Security Renovation Fees done over the past 5 or so years. I guess they think they are finished.M69,

Red Kilt posted about the 200p fee reduction 10 days ago and there was a lengthy discussion that followed a few pages back on this thread.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1236374#post1236374

[AfAsia]

the smoke got the better of me, and i decided to do one round through amazonia, one block north. there is news from there. the really old girls seem to have been moved on, and that is no bad thing. i played a couple of games of pool with three girls before choosing a 26 year old 5'1" cutie with very acceptable boobs (name escapes me) , but was of decent enough to work lac / mbc succesfully, and way above what amazonia had before. btw, the other guys in there at the time were 50-ish casual non-mongers (at least not agressive mongers).amazonia is a nice enough joint, however has seen better days i'm sure. nowadays, absolutely nothing is going for amazonia, the old lags being moved on is a step in the right direction, it is good to read of the positive news a few young chicks trying their luck, provided they are allowed to do so. i took a chick there and she was not permitted entrance, not an age issue. i rather like the look of the bar area, they have done some decorating recently, have also enjoyed a couple of bands playing there. will have a peep next time i'm in town.

[Jorian]

Viagra. Without hesitating the gal asked what weight, I said 25 mg, she said 500 pesos. I bought two 25 mg pills. She showed me the box, and told me they are the original, pulled a strip out, cut two and gave it to me. I paid and quickly left.

Note to self: Do not take Viagra if you have had one too many San Miguel!Real Viagra here cost the same whether 25 mg. 50 mg or 100 mg. I just buy the 100 mg and split it in 3-4 pieces, it can be a little messy but those suckers are hard enough that they do break off cleanly. Or you can get one of those cheap pill breakers. It is like getting 4 for price of one for me.

[WestCoast1]

amazonia is a nice enough joint, however has seen better days i'm sure. nowadays, absolutely nothing is going for amazonia, the old lags being moved on is a step in the right direction, it is good to read of the positive news a few young chicks trying their luck, provided they are allowed to do so. i took a chick there and she was not permitted entrance, not an age issue. i rather like the look of the bar area, they have done some decorating recently, have also enjoyed a couple of bands playing there. will have a peep next time i'm in town.i was enjoying the band that was playing 70's rock / roll. loved it. sat with my pinay tapping my toes. several girls would come and dance up front every few minutes, then disappear. same set of girls. i noticed they would stop dancing in the middle of a song and go sit down, and two songs later they would jump back up. for the life of me, i don't see this music as dance music (allman brothers?). my gf said the manager makes the girls dance. they are not working girls in the sense that they go with customers for hankypanky, they are paid just to hang around and dance, to attempt to get customers to enjoy the band. she said that based on what the dancers were saying, they hated the music and couldn't dance to it; hence they would quickly quit and sit down. i was the only customer in the bar for 60 minutes.

[DavidCanada1979]

soapy massage in manila is not as easily found as in bangkok. i used to go to roman suites in makati behind new world and that was always good in a pinch for p1, 000. you can try "craigslist manila" under therapedic section. there are alot of massage offerings there some freelance but most agencies. as long as you are in craigslist check out "casual encounters" every time i come to town i get at least 1 good freebee out of there. the last 2 times, i put an ad on there for men seeking woman and hit the jackpot with responses, photos and plenty of piany pussy some married that wanted to be wined dined fucked and treated like a lady. this has never failed me i have a list of numbers and plenty of correspondence with these gals.can definitely get freebies (treat them well, dinner etc.) in manila. cl is just one of many places. i usually give them some taxi money home though (in the range of 500 to 1000 php) , just to make things even a little.

[IM Punter]

see my earlier trip reports in the makati section.

i got back from baguio sunday and checked into copacobana. rather than texting my previous honey, jenalyn (see my first two reports under makati) , i decided to check out the famed manila bay cafe.

disclaimer: i should mention, that i type these reports into notepad on my tablet first then copy into the posting form, and although i try and preview before i submit, it sometimes does odd things and doesn't quite read well. i guess if i was using a real computer, it would be easier. so bear with me if my writing seems a little odd.

flagged a taxi on edsa and told the driver i wanted to go to diamond hotel as it was close to mbc. as we got close, we could see there was a parade on roxas so i said i would walk the rest of the way and was glad it was at 5pm and not 11pm as it was rather a sketchy area. on entry to the cafe (more of a pub) , i was greeted by a cutie with a uniform and i'd tag who seated me at one of the tables to the right of the door. question: do these uniformed cuties play for pay? right away, two older women hit on me, asking me questions. i did my best to be polite but display lack of interest, which after a while, they got. i ordered a beer, and noted the odd way i had to initial the order form. rather than run a tab, i paid up front. anyway, no sooner did a beer arrive than a filipina sat next to me. on my scale, i'd say she was a 5. she said she was 27 (looked about 22) and was working to add money to her day job which is doing manipedies in peoples homes. just for fun, i asked her rate for an lt, but she only did st in a nearby hotel. i wasn't overly interested in her anyway and was watching some real cuties pay a lot of attention to some guy at the bar. i was wondering how i could get a one of those hot girls over. then i noticed a girl, who really matched what i was looking for in a filipina, she was petite, nice face, nice legs and butt but not hot, more a girl next door type, but to me, really attractive. problem was, although she stood in front of me with her friends she didn't appear to notice me. after a few minutes i approached her and soon we were talking. she said she was 25 and her name was marilyn. we negotiated a bit. she was asking for 4000 lt but agreed on 3000. oddly enough, we had to leave separately so we agreed to meet outside. outside, i was greeted by a one legged old man with his hand out, so i gave him a few peso coins. next, an old woman had her hand out so i also gave her some coins. thankfully, before other people caught on, my new gf came out and we snagged a taxi.

it was a long, long taxi ride back to the hotel made more difficult with the tent in my pants. finally, back at the hotel, she had a shower and we settled down to some cuddling. i soon discovered that she had no condom and she was emphatic about no "making love" without condom. my little brain was all set to ignore this rule, but she was right, and right to make this rule. in the end, she gave me a nice bj and we agreed to pick up some condoms when we went out for supper. after, out for supper we went. i couldn't get any suggestions from her as to what she wanted to eat, or where to go, so i opted for the only part of town i know, to go to greenbelt. well, that was a mistake. firstly a long taxi ride, secondly, although there are many restaurants in the greenbelt, i chose one that was expensive but very mediocre food. i can't remember the name of it, but it was on the upper floor of gb3, was a pizza, pasta and steak restaurant. because i thought she might like something with rice and seafood, i ordered the paella. well, i have never had paella like that before. the seafood consisted of some battered fish, some tough mussels, tough calamari and a couple of decent shrimp. the rice wasn't flavored well and was too mushy. boy, i really could get used to having some sweet young lady serving my food and peeling shrimp for me. we pecked through the food, leaving a lot. i really wanted to give her a good meal, but i sort of struck out there. we walked around the high end stores for a while and then taxied back to the hotel, getting some rubbers on the way.

back at the hotel, we watched tv for a bit, and talked quite a bit about our lives. it was more like a gf date than a session with a pro. later, we made good use of a condom, and snuggled for a bit. i hadn't really negotiated a time that she should stay until the next morning, but she said she would like to leave at 6am. we snuggled some more and couldn't really get to sleep, so around 2am, i said i don't want to wake up at 6am to say goodbye, and asked if she wanted to leave now or else stay past 6am. at first, she insisted she wanted to stay with me, but in the end, i made it clear that i didn't mind at all if she left then. i walked her down to the street, gave her 200p for taxi and flagged a taxi. we exchanged phone numbers and a promise that we might get together again.

i have to tell you, as a newbie at this, its like nothing i have ever experienced mongering state side. the two girls i have met so far are great and well worth spending money on. there is something about the last girl, marlene, that i really like and have a hard time reminding myself that its play for pay and not to snagged into something emotional. not only would it be unrealistic, but somewhat difficult considering i do have a gf stateside (who i wish had the body of marlene). there is nothing emotional about the limited mongering experience i have had in the us. in the us its quite easy to understand that we don't pay the girl to stay with us, we pay her to leave when we are done. i don't feel the same way here.

i also have to remind myself that a lot of details both girls gave me about their lives is probably fiction, fair enough, since i provided some misdirection about my details as well, including a different name.

i'd be interested in hearing about some of the old timers here, how they manage to keep emotional distance from some of their favorites.

again, i apologise about a long winded report. got to learn to summarize more.

[WestCoast1]

Again, I apologise about a long winded report. Got to learn to summarize more.Not at all. Excellent descriptive report. Others could learn a lesson.


I have to tell you, as a newbie at this, its like nothing I have ever experienced mongering state side. The two girls I have met so far are great and well worth spending money on. There is something about the last girl, marlene, that I really like and have a hard time reminding myself that its play for pay and not to snagged into something emotional.The filipina is often more GFE than others. They seem to simply know no other way, except the hardened bargirls. They also love to talk, talk, talk (or txt, txt, txt) between fucks.

[GoodEnough]

Im Punter, please don't apologize. Your's was an excellent report and I wish there were more like it. Your reaction to the solid GFE provided was, I think typical of a fist visit and indeed typical of many of the experiences I had through the years before opting out. The rather unusual aspect of the MBC experience, I think, is that there's always the possibility of meeting a genuinely sweet, affectionate woman who genuinely enjoys (or at least appears to enjoy) spending time with you. Part of that experiennce doubtless stems from the courteous way you treated her; as a person and not as a temporary sperm recepticle, which I think is how lots of guys treat these women.

As far as I know, MBC is unique, at least in the Philippines. I've never been anyplace else quite like it here, or come to think of it, anywhere else.

Keep on posting. It's appreciated.

GE

[Slippery]

You already forgot her name! In one paragraph you say its Marilyn and in another you say its Marlene! At least you remember the experience. No need to taxi all the way to Greenbelt if you want dinner in or around Ermita. Robinson's Mall is a very short taxi ride at night and Cafe 28 is even closer. There are plenty of other places in the area that serve food, including hotels.

[Sammon]

see my earlier trip reports in the makati section.

in the end, she gave me a nice bj and we agreed to pick up some condoms when we went out for supper. after, out for supper we went. i couldn't get any suggestions from her as to what she wanted to eat, or where to go, so i opted for the only part of town i know, to go to greenbelt. well, that was a mistake. firstly a long taxi ride, secondly, although there are many restaurants in the greenbelt, i chose one that was expensive but very mediocre food. i can't remember the name of it, but it was on the upper floor of gb3, was a pizza, pasta and steak restaurant. because i thought she might like something with rice and seafood, i ordered the paella. well, i have never had paella like that before. the seafood consisted of some battered fish, some tough mussels, tough calamari and a couple of decent shrimp. the rice wasn't flavored well and was too mushy. boy, i really could get used to having some sweet young lady serving my food and peeling shrimp for me. we pecked through the food, leaving a lot. i really wanted to give her a good meal, but i sort of struck out there. we walked around the high end stores for a while and then taxied back to the hotel, getting some rubbers on the way.

i have to tell you, as a newbie at this, its like nothing i have ever experienced mongering state side. the two girls i have met so far are great and well worth spending money on. there is something about the last girl, marlene, that i really like and have a hard time reminding myself that its play for pay and not to snagged into something emotional. not only would it be unrealistic, but somewhat difficult considering i do have a gf stateside (who i wish had the body of marlene). there is nothing emotional about the limited mongering experience i have had in the us. in the us its quite easy to understand that we don't pay the girl to stay with us, we pay her to leave when we are done. i don't feel the same way here.

i also have to remind myself that a lot of details both girls gave me about their lives is probably fiction, fair enough, since i provided some misdirection about my details as well, including a different name.

i'd be interested in hearing about some of the old timers here, how they manage to keep emotional distance from some of their favorites.

again, i apologise about a long winded report. got to learn to summarize more.you being a newbie i would like to comment on few things.

1. you paid too much for lt. generally you can get a nice looking girl for under 2500. essentially you paid for st. most of these girls want to run away. this girl probably has a child and that is why 6 am was mentioned.

to qualify as lt it has to be a pop in the morning as well as breakfast together sometimes.

2. these girls are not impressed by expensive restaurents or food. they are quite happy with neighbourhood jollibee friend chicken with rice. i can understand you treating it as a regular date. with more experience you will.

get over it. these girls have seen all type of mongers from big spenders to penny pinchers.

3. you are picking up these girls for sex and sex only. being polite and nice is ok.

4. even non p4p dating type of girls are happy with phi food.

[Sir Lancelot]

I've read back 100 pages on this thread and although I found only one mention of this, I thought it was worth posing the question. Are there any scams outside Manila Bay Cafe? I read somewhere that the taxis aren't to be trusted (irrelevant for me because I stay at Amazonia) but more notably I read one story of someone being approached by a police car when walking out of MBC with a girl. The police looking to scare the monger in to a bribe. I presume this is a very rare occurence? On my last trip I sometimes picked my girl in MBC and arranged to meet her on the corner outside Amazonia. Is this necessary?

On my last trip I had a guy approach me outside Robinsons during the day saying 'hey, I work at your hotel'. The guy looked just like the security guard at Amazonia, so I didn't mind chatting with him. I told him I wanted a beer and he offered to take me to his favourite bar nearby. It was a small bar called RED ROOSTER. I got us a few San Migs and after a while he said 'you like girls? '. He told me that the bar had university students and he waved one over (it was about 2pm, there were probably only 2 or 3 girls there). Her name was Gloria, she was 19 and she was maybe a 6/10 but with a 9/10 body. I bought her a drink but wasn't after action at that time, so decided to leave. When I went to pay my tab though they had charged me 1500 pesos for 'lady company', despite the fact I didn't invite her over and she only sat with me for a few minutes (I had exactly the same scam tried on me in Cambodia once too). I gave the cashier 300 pesos. Enough for the three drinks and generous tip. And told her 'I pay for drinks, no girl. I did not ask for girl'. I said it with a smile on my face and left quickly. I have found out since that this is a common scam, so I thought it was worth mentioning in case any first-timers are reading. Lesson to be learnt: Tread carefully if someone comes up to you on the street pretending to know you (and lesson 2, pay for drinks as you go along and don't run up a tab).

Apart from MBC, any more bar recommendations in the Ermita area? I tried Amazonia (quiet with pushy girls) , LA Annexe (dead) and G-Point (lively with a few lookers) last time, two years ago. None were very inspiring but sometimes I quite enjoyed escaping MBC for half an hour. I read something about a few bars a few blocks down del Pilar from MBC, near Hussey's. Any info?

Ps-@I'm Punter: Great report, an excellent read. We need more long-winded reports!

[Chocha Monger]

Something to think about next time you're buying Viagra at Mercury drugs for a 2:00 AM standing Hampton.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/135375/the-apology-that-never-was

[Yella Man]

See my earlier trip reports in the Makati section.

I have to tell you, as a newbie at this, its like nothing I have ever experienced mongering state side. The two girls I have met so far are great and well worth spending money on. There is something about the last girl, marlene, that I really like and have a hard time reminding myself that its play for pay and not to snagged into something emotional.If you keep this in mind, you'll learn to play with these girls when you have needs, but that ultimately they are what they are; working girls trying to make ends meet. In time you will realize there are some really sweet, decent marrying types in the Philippines if you take your time and search for them off the beaten path, not in MBC or similar establishments. Good report!

YM

[Mc Don]

I've read back 100 pages on this thread and although I found only one mention of this, I thought it was worth posing the question. Are there any scams outside Manila Bay Cafe? I read somewhere that the taxis aren't to be trusted (irrelevant for me because I stay at Amazonia) but more notably I read one story of someone being approached by a police car when walking out of MBC with a girl. The police looking to scare the monger in to a bribe. I presume this is a very rare occurence? On my last trip I sometimes picked my girl in MBC and arranged to meet her on the corner outside Amazonia. Is this necessary?don't buy anything from street merchants even if it looks tempting. Sometimes they sell fake US silver dollars, watches and so on.

No need for your girl to wait for you or anything else like that, just walk out with her. Money has not changed hands at this stage even if you get approached just ditch her saying you are going back to your hotel. Anyway most girls will be glad to meet you in amazonia in couple of minutes after you live. Just tell her you prefer to walk alone and that you want to meet her in your room or at reception in 2 min. She will gladly do so, infect its better for her too.

Be aware that now girls have to purchase at least ONE drink before they live MBC. They get stamps which are checked upon exit. You may need to buy her a drink.

Have fun.

[Mc Don]

Question: do these uniformed cuties play for pay?NO. They are not allowed and can lose their job. Most of them are on 6mth contract and hardly any of them stays for more then one stint so if you are lucky maybe you can find one that has few weeks left and won't mind giving you her phone number. Even then its hard. At least that's my experience.

Good story, please keep them coming.

Going on the reports in Makati section and here, so far you have done well. You overpaid here but did good in Makati. To you it may seem same thing Makati / Malate but you need to understand that we are talking best place in town vs one of the worse places in town, prices tend to differ just like in your city. Don't get me wrong tip if you feel like it but be firmer when negotiating. As Simmon said this was a short time.

With food stick to what you want to eat. Forget letting them chose because most of them would have never eaten out to begin with or if they do its jollibee or some other cheap place that normally you wouldn't bother with. There are few places around MBC that are good, the shaverma place just few meters down and you also have plenty of restaurants around Robinson Mall. To go from Malate to Makati for food is waste of time. IMO Malate has cheaper and more authentic food the Makati.

Be careful with the emotional attachment issues. Filipinas have that magic that makes you fall in love quite quickly. Just remember the 3Fs. Find them, Fuck them, Forget them.

[AfAsia]

Apart from MBC, any more bar recommendations in the Ermita area? I tried Amazonia (quiet with pushy girls) , LA Annexe (dead) and G-Point (lively with a few lookers) last time, two years ago. None were very inspiring but sometimes I quite enjoyed escaping MBC for half an hour. I read something about a few bars a few blocks down del Pilar from MBC, near Hussey's. Any info?Nothing really worthy I'm afraid, I have tried, not much going down in the other bars. You can start up at United Nations st and work your way down Del Pilar, there are roughly a dozen small bars on Del Pilar, work your way down and beyond MBC. Top end you have the Southern Cross hotel where I usually stay. Pop in and have a meal. Recomended.

[Teacup]

On my last trip I had a guy approach me outside Robinsons during the day saying 'hey, I work at your hotel'.Note on that same scam, in the same place (probably the same guy) one page back. I have made it my goal to get cash or free beer from these guys one day. Once I can't fuck any more.

[Sammon]

Nothing really worthy I'm afraid, I have tried, not much going down in the other bars. You can start up at United Nations st and work your way down Del Pilar, there are roughly a dozen small bars on Del Pilar, work your way down and beyond MBC. Top end you have the Southern Cross hotel where I usually stay. Pop in and have a meal. Recomended.I have gone to some of these bars along Del Pilar long time ago. Mostly because the pretty door girl showed me beautifull girls inside. Yes, the girls are pretty. Downside they are just hostesses. They drink with you, sing sometimes.

None are available to take out. (Maybe they did not like me ). The doorgirl later said the girls do not go with anybody but I am sure for the right amount they will. I did not push the issue because within a block there was LA cafe (MBC) where Ican just ask any girl to go with me and cheaper too.

[Cunning Stunt]

Was let down by a squeeze at the weekend and not enough time to organize a back-up, so decided to pay my first visit of the year to MBC. As it was a late afternoon, the choice was fairly poor, the usual mix of 80% rough, skanky 'No way Josés' and 20% 'maybe babies'. Didn't see any that would have held a candle to my postponed date. Got chatting to a 'maybe' but she quickly made clear that she wouldn't budge for less than 2000 ST and frankly she wasn't worth it. What is with MBC these days? Girls who only a couple of years ago would have bitten my hand off for a ton, now hold out for double that. I couldn't be arsed to dicker so moved on.

Was getting ready to blow (I have a limited tolerance these days for the poorly ventilated, smoky MBC) when a rather cute little thing joined me at my side table. She was accompanied by Dawn French! Well that's who she looked like to me (if you have never heard of Dawn, think of pretty lady masquerading as barrage balloon and you got it). Why is it that the nice lookers in MBC always have a woof in tow and try to interest you in a 3 timer that you obviously have not the slightest interest in effecting. Hell, there wouldn't have been room on a Sogo bed for the 3 of us! After the usual small talk the cuter girl indicated willingness to 2 pop party for 1500 with the proviso that I would give her an extra 500 if she proved worth it. Now a performance related bonus I can relate to.

Well she earned her bonus. The only disappointment was that the lovely tight, clothed body proved to be not so tight once unsheathed. She had told me in the bar that she had a kid, but, as is often the case, it was impossible to gauge the degree of damage from the shod figure and when the bra came off, the boobs headed south a ways. But apart from that, she was fine and tried very hard to please.

She allowed unlimited pics and vid (a way of earning her bonus, I suppose) , so here are a few of her and her sad 'spaniels ears' tits.

[Key Master]

Be aware that now girls have to purchase at least ONE drink before they live MBC. They get stamps which are checked upon exit. You may need to buy her a drink.McDon, one my friends just recently experienced a waitress trying to do that stuff to him as he was ready to leave with someone. The waitress was insisting but he walked away with her. She asked the woman to confirm that it was true and she nodded yes to having to get a drink, but as the waitress kind of yelled at the woman for not getting my friend to buy the drink we asked her again and she said it's BS, and he and her just got out of there before she came back. This is something new to me, and to me could get them in trouble as they're kind of almost like saying they're employing the women. Stupid move on their part I think. I understand they're trying to make more money but they're going somewhere they probably shouldn't.

On another side note on the drinks, the same friend dared try talking to the mainly Asian section women upstairs in their little clicks. Once she sat down next to him, the waitress pounces and asks him to buy her a drink. He says ok and she promptly orders a 350 pesos exotic looking drink. She claimed no commission or anything but I think somebody's making some extra money. He offered her a beer from our pitcher sitting on the table but she said she doesn't drink that.

I also noticed a lot of the women there are trying to do strictly short time crap and asking for a lot more than 1000-1500 even the not so attractive ones. As the time wore down though, even the so called Asian only women dropped down to 1500 short time. Of note, my friends are Asian, but not of the Korean and Japanese Asian.

[Firebird]

Apologies for sounding foolish. What is MBC?

I made search to see if I could find some further info but came up with "not a valid search"

Thanks for explanation

[Mongerer69]

MBC = Manila Bay Cafe formerly LA Cafe before shutdown, In rundown Malate section of Manila. Both have been discussed in length here.


Apologies for sounding foolish. What is MBC?

I made search to see if I could find some further info but came up with "not a valid search"

Thanks for explanation

[BadIdea]

Apologies for sounding foolish. What is MBC?

I made search to see if I could find some further info but came up with "not a valid search"

Thanks for explanationManila Bay Cafe. Formerly LA Cafe. Google Maps: http://g.co/maps/bae4q

[Sammon]

McDon, one my friends just recently experienced a waitress trying to do that stuff to him as he was ready to leave with someone. The waitress was insisting but he walked away with her. She asked the woman to confirm that it was true and she nodded yes to having to get a drink, but as the waitress kind of yelled at the woman for not getting my friend to buy the drink we asked her again and she said it's BS, and he and her just got out of there before she came back. This is something new to me, and to me could get them in trouble as they're kind of almost like saying they're employing the women. Stupid move on their part I think. I understand they're trying to make more money but they're going somewhere they probably shouldn't.I do not believe the girls are forced to buy one drink. Many of them cannot spare 80 pesos for a drink unless they find a punter. Sometimes you can see girls going around with a half empty bottle. When asked one girl said there are only certain places where a girl can sit without a drink. Do not know how far it is true. One girl even asked me for my bottle of beer which was about 80% empty.

It is worthwhile to know the current rules. Maybe after the raid the owners were asked not to let girls in just to come and sit there. Making them buy or get a drink from us makes it look like they came to the bar to drink. It is impossible to gauge Phi mind for this obvious " Who is fooling Who " hypocrisy. But that is the way it is in the whole country just like prostituition is illegal but girlie bars are ok?

[Firebird]

MBC = Manila Bay Cafe formerly LA Cafe before shutdown, In rundown Malate section of Manila. Both have been discussed in length here.Thanks Mongerer for the feedback.

[Mc Don]

I do not believe the girls are forced to buy one drink. Many of them cannot spare 80 pesos for a drink unless they find a punter. Sometimes you can see girls going around with a half empty bottle. When asked one girl said there are only certain places where a girl can sit without a drink. Do not know how far it is true. One girl even asked me for my bottle of beer which was about 80% empty.

It is worthwhile to know the current rules. Maybe after the raid the owners were asked not to let girls in just to come and sit there. Making them buy or get a drink from us makes it look like they came to the bar to drink. It is impossible to gauge Phi mind for this obvious " Who is fooling Who " hypocrisy. But that is the way it is in the whole country just like prostituition is illegal but girlie bars are ok?Few girls have told me they have to buy ONE drink before the exit the venue. If they don't abide by the rules they may be refused entry the next time. Weather the girl buys the drink or a punter pays for it doesn't matter but she must consume one drink for which she gets a stamp to show to the security guard or a waitress near the door.

As far as I know only staff (waitresses) make money from the drinks. They get 50 peso of a drink. Drinks in MBC / LAC have been overpriced for years relative to other places in Malate but hey we still go back there.

[Red Kilt]

I do not believe the girls are forced to buy one drink.It is not too hard to believe Samm.

If I owned a coffee shop and I had any person coming in to sit and take up space and wait for friends or family to show up and then they left without buying any coffee or food, I would be pissed and I would watch for them to try it again.

Same thing isn't it?

[Slippery]

It is not too hard to believe Samm.

If I owned a coffee shop and I had any person coming in to sit and take up space and wait for friends or family to show up and then they left without buying any coffee or food, I would be pissed and I would watch for them to try it again.

Same thing isn't it?I saw the same thing at G Point. A girl came in, sat at the bar and didn't buy a drink. She was told to either buy a drink or leave. She left.

[Sir Lancelot]

Few girls have told me they have to buy ONE drink before the exit the venue. If they don't abide by the rules they may be refused entry the next time. Weather the girl buys the drink or a punter pays for it doesn't matter but she must consume one drink for which she gets a stamp to show to the security guard or a waitress near the door. As far as I know only staff (waitresses) make money from the drinks. They get 50 peso of a drink. Drinks in MBC / LAC have been overpriced for years relative to other places in Malate but hey we still go back there.Given the sheer volume of girls downstairs, most of whom never get a sniff of ST / LT, surely if they were all forced to buy drinks, it would have an impact on numbers? Perhaps it's not strictly enforced to the girls themselves, rather it's a way to extract extra pesos from us mongers ("hey you must buy girl a drink before you go")? I will let you know when I return from my forthcoming trip.

One annoyance I experienced when I was in MBC last time (two years ago when it was LA Cafe) , is that even if I sat on a stool at the large circular bar downstairs and was chatting to the bar-staff and asked for a drink, they'd call over a waitress to collect my order, who would disappear with my cash for five minutes. Seemed daft when I was within reaching distance of the beer I wanted to buy! Generally I found the waitresses very efficient and good fun, but on one occasion the girl didn't return for 20 minutes (some kind of mix-up) , so I had to go and look for her. It's definitely worth making a mental note of the girls names when she collects your order.

I will spend most of my time in MBC when I am in Manila, although I will poke my head in to a few other bars mentioned on this forum. For a change of pace I might investigate Air Force 1 / Starfleet. Is it worth the taxi-ride from Ermita? There is quite a bit of information on this forum about prices but what is the quality / quantity of girls like?

[Sammon]

It is not too hard to believe Samm.

If I owned a coffee shop and I had any person coming in to sit and take up space and wait for friends or family to show up and then they left without buying any coffee or food, I would be pissed and I would watch for them to try it again.

Same thing isn't it?Well, MBC is not exactly like a coffee shop. It is a big bar probably total capacity is in the hundreds when full. Maybe next time I go there in May will check it out. It is simple, Just need to ask the door security people.

Will not make any difference to us but if this rule is strictly followed there will be less number of surrounding poor province girls coming there. I tend to like them because they seem less hard core and gladly willing to stay LT.

GFE too. Those girls just want to get out of the bar as quickly as possible and get into your room. Many of them are really poor. Some told me they can only go home in the morning because they told their parents that they are going to spend the night at their girlfriends house. They have barely enough money to get home. One girl showed me her purse and had only 80 pesos. So if that 80 pesos are spent on a drink it will be a problem. With hundreds of girls coming in and out how can the security keep track of who left without buying a drink last time? Rarely security check the I. D but always look inside their purse to see if they have drugs or guns.

[WestCoast1]

I saw the same thing at G Point. A girl came in, sat at the bar and didn't buy a drink. She was told to either buy a drink or leave. She left.G-Point has been forcing the drink for many years, before the LAC closing. You'll see girls with a bottle of water at 1am, which she's been nursing since 8pm. P40 for the girl, p80 for you. Same bottle in the Robinson's grocery is p8? P10? This past June when I was walking towards Starbucks from Robinson's in Cebu Fuente, I grabbed a bottled water from a street vendor for p15. I would guess the MBC girls also get a discount that cano don't.

[Red Kilt]

I remember that one of the things said in the fracas that followed the LAC raid 2 years ago was that if a girl has a drink in front of her then she can safely say that she is in the bar to have a drink and meet her friends.

If she doesn't have a drink, then it is not so easy to justify to police or any raiding party why she is there. If it is to meet friends then she can do that in a mall or in the park or wherever.

If a girl doesn't have any money and she is in a place like LAC where you cannot get anything for free, then she is much more likely To be accused of being there trying to get money ie solicit for prostitution which is illegal.

I will repeat what I said before: if I owned a business and people were coming in to my store/shop/bar/coffee shop whatever and just standing or sitting around and had no intention of buying anything (or had no money anyway), I would respectfully ask them to move on. Just last week I bought a coffee in Starbucks in Robinsons Malate and there were no seats available. The guard saw my dilemma and he asked 3 people who were just sitting in the seats in front of the shop taking a rest to move to allow a customer to sit. I thought that was good customer service.

[Ploughman]

Thanks for all the reports. Will check it out myself for the first time in a year soon and hopefully have some good stuff to add. Have the Exec. Plaza booked again via entertainment. Com / hotels. Com (I. E. Eligible for partial rebate through one of their deals). Am an 18-year veteran of PI trips; used to be heavy on AC but gradually discovered that supply wasn't really a problem in Manila, and that general quality of life and walkability were improving in Malate and Ermita. Seems like some recent regression but I'll try to stay optimistic. Will also be coming in from Thailand, so will have a comparison basis. Seems I always do better in the PI. About half my expat friends in Thailand can sorta relate but still don't get to PI that often, and the other half tried it once and couldn't get past the poverty / grot factor. I think my record for LA / MBC is 5 different. Best wishes.

[Mc Don]

With hundreds of girls coming in and out how can the security keep track of who left without buying a drink last time? Rarely security check the I. D but always look inside their purse to see if they have drugs or guns.The girl gets a STAMP on their arm when a drink is delivered to her. She MUST present it to the security guard upon leaving. Easy to enforce.

[GoodEnough]

I remember that one of the things said in the fracas that followed the LAC raid 2 years ago was that if a girl has a drink in front of her then she can safely say that she is in the bar to have a drink and meet her friends.

If she doesn't have a drink, then it is not so easy to justify to police or any raiding party why she is there. If it is to meet friends then she can do that in a mall or in the park or wherever.

If a girl doesn't have any money and she is in a place like LAC where you cannot get anything for free, then she is much more likely To be accused of being there trying to get money ie solicit for prostitution which is illegal.

I will repeat what I said before: if I owned a business and people were coming in to my store / shop / bar / coffee shop whatever and just standing or sitting around and had no intention of buying anything (or had no money anyway) , I would respectfully ask them to move on. Just last week I bought a coffee in Starbucks in Robinsons Malate and there were no seats available. The guard saw my dilemma and he asked 3 people who were just sitting in the seats in front of the shop taking a rest to move to allow a customer to sit. I thought that was good customer service.RK, I would agree with your analysis as applied to upscale places like Havana or any of the dining establishments on that row in Greennbelt 2 and 3. It would apply to those places because they're primarily in the business of selling food and drink. For MBC however, the mediocre food and the drinks are merely incidental to the primary lure of the place, which is, after all, nothing much more than a venue in which to meet freelancers. Without this inducement, who in his right mind would go there? Since the girls are part, a very large part, of the reason the freespending expats are attracted to the place, they should be considered more as key components of the ambience, and one could argue therefore that they should be exempt from the drink requirement. The fact is, that, for the most part,"normal" couples wouldn't be caught dead in the place and I would imagine that 98% of the male clientele goes there for one reason only, and it's not to hear the band or eat the lousy pizza.

GE

[Slippery]

I had pulled an all nighter out of MBC a few months back and when I asked her where she wanted to have breakfast she told me MBC so we went there and the breakfast was surprisingly good. That's the only food I have ever eaten there though.

[AfAsia]

I had pulled an all nighter out of MBC a few months back and when I asked her where she wanted to have breakfast she told me MBC so we went there and the breakfast was surprisingly good. That's the only food I have ever eaten there though.Surprisingly, the food is of a high standard at MBC. On numerous occasions during my marathon sessions, drinking and enjoying the ladies, I have had their salads. Lovely! Several times went upstairs and had a steak meal, the lovely waitresses call me Daddy, I'm a young 47, LOL. Recomended.

[Red Kilt]

. For MBC however, the mediocre food and the drinks are merely incidental to the primary lure of the place, which is, after all, nothing much more than a venue in which to meet freelancers. Without this inducement, who in his right mind would go there? Since the girls are part, a very large part, of the reason the freespending expats are attracted to the place, they should be considered more as key components of the ambience, and one could argue therefore that they should be exempt from the drink requirement.Agreed GE, but that just reinforces my point that, as a management policy, the management surely needs to convince "the authorities" that they are NOT encouraging girls to come to MBC as decoy ducks in order to lure guys to visit who will then spend money on food and drink.

One way MBC can demonstrate that the their facade is honorable is to have all girls give the appearance of being "regular paying customers" by insisting that they have a drink in front of them.

BTW. I also agree with you about the poor quality of the MBC food and I Would go further and say that it has to be right up near the top as the very worst and unappetising stuff that I have EVER eaten ANYWHERE. I am afraid Noddy's and Slippery's endorsement of the food does not convince me but, as always, it is JMHO.

[Mc Don]

RK and GE, just a reminder LOL, MBC is NOT a restaurant. As pub grub food is passable LOL. Personally I don't bother but my wingman and the ladies eat it and their burgers look okeyish.

Word is the owner had to come up with a mountain of cash to use his get out of jail card last time. Strict no I'd no entry policy is now enforced for anyone that looks even remotely borderline with age, drinks for everyone that enters MBC are enforced to recoup some of that cash, price for going up upstairs is also up I think. Bottom line is ITS A BUSINESS. I prefer the ladies to spend some of their own cash if they want to enter MBC. It makes them a bit more desperate and also hungrier for a client. Bottom line is we go to MBC because its easy to pick up, I hate it when they try to haggle for unrealistic amount holding off for a knight in shiny armor that will pay for their next semesters tuition in exchange for a short time.

I understand that it may weed out the poorest and the most desperate kind but I think those that are that desperate will always come up with something else. Perhaps try and pick up in the mall, or we may see more street walkers around MBC. Come to think of it I was approached twice before entering MBC in September when I basically took a walk from the Butterfly. 2 blocks. 2 approaches broad daylight.

[Sammon]

The girl gets a STAMP on their arm when a drink is delivered to her. She MUST present it to the security guard upon leaving. Easy to enforce.What I meant was if she does not have a stamp will they remember her next time to deny entry? Even if she does not have stamp she cannot be refused exit and forced to buy a drink.

[Slippery]

Hahahahaha I endorsed one breakfast and not the food in general. You wouldn't see me painting with THAT wide of a brush. I'm still laughing.

[Sugoi]

Given the sheer volume of girls downstairs, most of whom never get a sniff of ST / LT, surely if they were all forced to buy drinks, it would have an impact on numbers? Perhaps it's not strictly enforced to the girls themselves, rather it's a way to extract extra pesos from us mongers ("hey you must buy girl a drink before you go")? I will let you know when I return from my forthcoming trip.

One annoyance I experienced when I was in MBC last time (two years ago when it was LA Cafe) , is that even if I sat on a stool at the large circular bar downstairs and was chatting to the bar-staff and asked for a drink, they'd call over a waitress to collect my order, who would disappear with my cash for five minutes. Seemed daft when I was within reaching distance of the beer I wanted to buy! Generally I found the waitresses very efficient and good fun, but on one occasion the girl didn't return for 20 minutes (some kind of mix-up) , so I had to go and look for her. It's definitely worth making a mental note of the girls names when she collects your order.

I will spend most of my time in MBC when I am in Manila, although I will poke my head in to a few other bars mentioned on this forum. For a change of pace I might investigate Air Force 1 / Starfleet. Is it worth the taxi-ride from Ermita? There is quite a bit of information on this forum about prices but what is the quality / quantity of girls like?I know a lot like AF1 but I'm particular to SF because they have the wet massage on the air bed. Cost is 2000 for the room and 2000 as a tip for the girl for a total of 4000. SF has 3 "classes" of rooms / girls and I believe AF1 has 2 or 3 classes also. I haven't been there for several years so I can't recall the exact format.

If you've never been, I would recommend going at least once to experience looking at the aquarium (look at all 3 classes) and choosing out of the dozens of girls. You can always leave if you don't find anything to your liking.

[FreebieFan]

On last trip to manila met a fabulously hot 18 year old who gave me one of the blows of my life. Well I have a 5 minute video that still entertains me of her in action. Holding the end in her lips and pumping with her hands. Just the way I like.

Anyways she told me she worked in a "bake shop". Later she admitted that it wasnt exactly a bake shop. Hence I assume her BJ skills.

Today I'm chatting on mamboo with a girl, who tells me she jas just stopped working in a bake shop. But 3 sentences later she tells me she's perfect in giving BJ. We have agreed I will let her in exchange for chocolates (the new barter economy ). So. When your girl says she's in a bake shop, sak her how good her BJ skills are.

[Mc Don]

On last trip to manila met a fabulously hot 18 year old who gave me one of the blows of my life. Well I have a 5 minute video that still entertains me of her in action. Holding the end in her lips and pumping with her hands. Just the way I like.

Anyways she told me she worked in a "bake shop". Later she admitted that it wasnt exactly a bake shop. Hence I assume her BJ skills.

Today I'm chatting on mamboo with a girl, who tells me she jas just stopped working in a bake shop. But 3 sentences later she tells me she's perfect in giving BJ. We have agreed I will let her in exchange for chocolates (the new barter economy ). So. When your girl says she's in a bake shop, sak her how good her BJ skills are.Shake and bake my man. It remains me of my first trip in phils. After a shit time in europe I decided to cut my holiday short and go to Singapore. Singapore was boring too, at the time I had no idea that Singapore even had action, this was way before I discovered internet forums and it was really my first mongering experience. I simply booked a trip to manila and the first hotel that come up that was reasonably priced (Garden something in Malate). After refusing the offers from the hotel for massages and their tour packages I went to get something to eat from the bakery. I ended up with the sales girl that just finished her shift. Man I still remember every detail of her BJ and naughty skills, I think I kept her for a week. Ended up way overpaying around 10 000 peso for the week (we are talking about 10 years ago here) but fuck it was unforgettable. Bake lady got me into phils hahahaha

[Cunning Stunt]

Anyways she told me she worked in a "bake shop". Later she admitted that it wasnt exactly a bake shop. Hence I assume her BJ skills.Last time I'll buy a bloody cream cake from Goldilocks!

[FreebieFan]

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[Brenno]

After 5 days in Manila I understand why half posts in this thread talk about taxies intead of psssies. I am not going to add anything about such topic.

In Manila I got a room at Sogo Hotel Mabini. Along my travel around Philippines I understood that in the Philippines no hotel has value for money. For sky high prices you get just a one-two star at best, even if there are 5-star on the door. A beatiful room with crappy service, or a perfect service for a crappy room or any combination in between. Sogo is on the left side of this equation ie, good room but no service at all.

Sogo on Mabini is not far away from Manila Bay Cafe, but it's a quite long walking distance. It doesn't matter, Mabini is full of jeepney going up toward MBC. They all go all the way up because Mabini is One-way, just hop on the first one and give 10 pesos to the driver.

Same story to go back to hotel down Del Pilar which is one-way in the opposite direction but you cannot really do that. When you get in MBC you will probably get out with a girl who will pretend a taxy.

My experience in the Philippines was very bad compared to other SE Asia countries, but I must admit MBC is an exception. The first girl I picked up (who picked me up to be honest) was not a stunning beauty, but it was young and quite gentle.

Once in room she literally fucked me (BB) and afterwards she masturbate herself because I ended too fast (no wonder with all that exciting way of behave).

A woman who likes it!

Have you ever meet a who woman who reeeeally like it? You sure?

Consider: if women did like it, there were no needs of brothels, up and down the whole history of human beings.

Anyhow. She did get herself in climax, an event I've never seen in my life (out of movie-space, of course)

The second day I went to MBC and came out alone. Too many people, too crowdy. In my experience, is always a big mistake catching a woman just by sight. Some small chit-chat it's alway necessary to understand what she think of you and by consequence, how she will behave once in room (tough nothing is garanteed when it comes to women, you know).

As soon as I was outside, a girl came after me and ask me to come with me. Pretty girl I must say, college slender type.

Ok then.

Second gooooooood girl in a row. Traditional style but sincere and passionate.

There were absolutely no SW in the area, anytime.

The third day I went to visit Makati, Burgos. No SW except 2 lousy girls at the very first step of Burgos and late at night. They asked me if I wanted massage while I was going away.

Beatiful girls in the Burgos bars, I must say. Really beautiful.

But the question is: why should I cross the world, go to a crappy country, eat badly, deal with wierd people and pay a girl the same price I pay excidingly pricey western overvalued women? For 100 euro I can find beatiful girl anywhere.

It is not a matter of money, it is a matter of principle. If we pay such high, soon the women there will think that that is their value and soon they will behave like western women.

In fact, I never went with a WG in my country for that reason. I will never pay a woman by the hour more then how much I earn per hour. It is unfair. What's your pussy service that value more then my highly technical service?

The Makati bars were all empty indeed. I passed by the whole row (it took me 4 hours) and I was always the only customer inside. Everybody very pushy over there.

Sorry, Makati Burgos I didn't like.

A did EDSA complex also. Looks like a Makati Burgos extension. Pretty girls but same prices, bars empties, people very very pushy.

Oh yes, I also passed by Amazonia bar, near MBC. I don't know why people still talk about this place. 4 chubby ugly old women and that's it.

Long story short: in Manila go to MBC, there is nothing else worthing (IMHO).

[FreebieFan]

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Please do not post links to other websites without some explanation as to what may be found at the linked webpage.

In other words, if you want to post a link to another website, please include some commentary describing what the link is to. The link that was posted here was an advert on Huffington Post for Louis Vuitton condoms.

The ad seems real. Even more so the price. An amazing US$ 68 per condom that comes in wrapper with normal LV bran colours and little LV's on the condom itself. One for the super rich players!

[Econo Tech]

.but always look inside their purse to see if they have drugs or guns.The security also check for outside food (chocolates, or stuff, which are also sold inside).

Once I met a girl, gave her a box of toblerone, and we headed to MBC and she had to leave the toblerone at the door, to be picked up later.

Oh, for those who think that we mongers are the only customers making MBC run, I have a surprise.

The day Freddie performs, the second floor is full of natives, who have come to see him. And boy, do they spend money.

[Iigorvich]

I've read back 100 pages on this thread and although I found only one mention of this, I thought it was worth posing the question. Are there any scams outside Manila Bay Cafe? I read somewhere that the taxis aren't to be trusted (irrelevant for me because I stay at Amazonia) but more notably I read one story of someone being approached by a police car when walking out of MBC with a girl. The police looking to scare the monger in to a bribe. I presume this is a very rare occurence? On my last trip I sometimes picked my girl in MBC and arranged to meet her on the corner outside Amazonia. Is this necessary?

On my last trip I had a guy approach me outside Robinsons during the day saying 'hey, I work at your hotel'. The guy looked just like the security guard at Amazonia, so I didn't mind chatting with him. I told him I wanted a beer and he offered to take me to his favourite bar nearby. It was a small bar called RED ROOSTER. I got us a few San Migs and after a while he said 'you like girls? '. He told me that the bar had university students and he waved one over (it was about 2pm, there were probably only 2 or 3 girls there). Her name was Gloria, she was 19 and she was maybe a 6/10 but with a 9/10 body. I bought her a drink but wasn't after action at that time, so decided to leave. When I went to pay my tab though they had charged me 1500 pesos for 'lady company', despite the fact I didn't invite her over and she only sat with me for a few minutes (I had exactly the same scam tried on me in Cambodia once too). I gave the cashier 300 pesos. Enough for the three drinks and generous tip. And told her 'I pay for drinks, no girl. I did not ask for girl'. I said it with a smile on my face and left quickly. I have found out since that this is a common scam, so I thought it was worth mentioning in case any first-timers are reading. Lesson to be learnt: Tread carefully if someone comes up to you on the street pretending to know you (and lesson 2, pay for drinks as you go along and don't run up a tab).

Apart from MBC, any more bar recommendations in the Ermita area? I tried Amazonia (quiet with pushy girls) , LA Annexe (dead) and G-Point (lively with a few lookers) last time, two years ago. None were very inspiring but sometimes I quite enjoyed escaping MBC for half an hour. I read something about a few bars a few blocks down del Pilar from MBC, near Hussey's. Any info?

Ps-@I'm Punter: Great report, an excellent read. We need more long-winded reports!I tried he exact same maybe 1. 5 years ago in Ermita. Maybe it was the same person? My flight was delayed ten hours so we were brough to one of the five star hotels in the neighbourhood. As I had a few hours to spend and I knew one of the best massage place in Manilla is in the Robinson mall in Ermita I decided to go there. Two minutes after leaving the hotel I get approached by this guy, who claims to work as a cook in the hotel. I decide to try to ignore and reject his proposals and interest and suddenly find that two guys are following me. I was getting very nevous as I had my passport and creditcard in my bag. So I reach to mall and think I'm finally safe, and these two fuckers keep following me. I can't remember I he asked me if I wanted a girl or not as I was rejecting all that he was saying. But I was getting quite nervous for what this was about. (maybe robbing me, or holding me up or something.)

I usually go to Makati after this.I feel too unsafe Ermita even in daytime.

[Ogman]

Real Viagra here cost the same whether 25 mg. 50 mg or 100 mg. I just buy the 100 mg and split it in 3-4 pieces, it can be a little messy but those suckers are hard enough that they do break off cleanly. Or you can get one of those cheap pill breakers. It is like getting 4 for price of one for me.I'll be in the Makati area and would like to load up on viagra or Kamgara or other such options but I hear a lot about fake pills. Is there a pharmacy location you dealt with offering the 100mgs? I would like to stop in and pick up a supply my first night in town so I was wondering how long such reputable pharmacies stay open.

My other purchase will be a phone card and SIM for my phone. Is there a pharmacy chain for that as well? I'll want to call the US every now and then so any tips on where and what to buy in these categories would be much appreciated from all you Manila mongers!

OGMAN

[Mr Enternational]

After 5 days in Manila I understand why half posts in this thread talk about taxies intead of psssies. I am not going to add anything about such topic.

Beatiful girls in the Burgos bars, I must say. Really beautiful.

But the question is: why should I cross the world, go to a crappy country, eat badly, deal with wierd people and pay a girl the same price I pay excidingly pricey western overvalued women? For 100 euro I can find beatiful girl anywhere.

It is not a matter of money, it is a matter of principle. If we pay such high, soon the women there will think that that is their value and soon they will behave like western women.

In fact, I never went with a WG in my country for that reason. I will never pay a woman by the hour more then how much I earn per hour. It is unfair. What's your pussy service that value more then my highly technical service?

The Makati bars were all empty indeed. I passed by the whole row (it took me 4 hours) and I was always the only customer inside. Everybody very pushy over there.

Sorry, Makati Burgos I didn't like.

A did EDSA complex also. Looks like a Makati Burgos extension. Pretty girls but same prices, bars empties, people very very pushy.

Oh yes, I also passed by Amazonia bar, near MBC. I don't know why people still talk about this place. 4 chubby ugly old women and that's it.

Long story short: in Manila go to MBC, there is nothing else worthing (IMHO).Looks like we think along the same lines. I said the same thing on the Brazil thread a couple of years ago:
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You lost me with this one. Since everyone on the board makes a different weekly salary the point is pretty much moot. What a lot of people are saying is that when mongers start giving a gdp x+y reais who has historically received x reais it will screw it up for mongers thereafter because the gdp will from then on demand x+y reais.

GDPs are not able to discern that I work at the sandwich shop and have been saving up 10 years for this dream vacation on a shoestring budget in Rio from you owning your own widget business and being able to afford going to Rio 4 times each year. What they see instead is that I was able to withdraw x+y from Walking ATM #1, so Walking ATM #2 MUST spit out the same amount. People who may not have as much or choose not to spend as much money as you are just asking that you not haphazardly raise the stakes so that they can continue to play in the game as well.

Since I am from the US I tend to think primarily in dollars. I like to think to myself how much am I giving her in dollars/hour. To feel comfortable with myself I am definitely not going to pay a third-world gdp more per hour than I am making myself.

[Lalake]

I'll be in the Makati area and would like to load up on viagra or Kamgara or other such options but I hear a lot about fake pills. Is there a pharmacy location you dealt with offering the 100mgs? I would like to stop in and pick up a supply my first night in town so I was wondering how long such reputable pharmacies stay open.

My other purchase will be a phone card and SIM for my phone. Is there a pharmacy chain for that as well? I'll want to call the US every now and then so any tips on where and what to buy in these categories would be much appreciated from all you Manila mongers!

OGMANYou should be able to get all the V you want at pretty much any drug store. There's a Mercury on almost every corner. For example across the way from Shangri La next to the California Pizza Kitchen. But, the all night ones are on the corner near Makati Ave and Burgos. One is a little more hidden, one is right on Makati Ave. Tell the taxi to drop you off on the corner there and just ask if it's not obvious. As for SIM card. Buy it at the airport on the way in.

[Inlock]

The security also check for outside food (chocolates, or stuff, which are also sold inside).

Once I met a girl, gave her a box of toblerone, and we headed to MBC and she had to leave the toblerone at the door, to be picked up later.Just a quick note about buying chocolate or other stuff from the salesgirls inside MBC:

They have a sales quota they need to reach. They are not allowed to quit their shift before they have made the sum of money the management thinks is adequate.

Which ofcourse makes the salesgirls quite desperate some times. The management uses this as a sort of punishment to staff members who in their opinion need to be learned a lesson.

Once I bought a stick of toblerone and gave it to the salesgirl herself. Which she immidiately sold back to the inhouse shop in the back of the pool room. Ofcourse.

Clever girl. Why bring home an overpriced chocolate bar if she instead can get 300 in cash. If she really wants toblerone she can buy one at 7-11 on her way home and still have plenty of money left.

[WestCoast1]

But the question is: why should I cross the world, go to a crappy country, eat badly, deal with wierd people and pay a girl the same price I pay excidingly pricey western overvalued women? For 100 euro I can find beatiful girl anywhere.Yes, you can. But the euro / american gal will only spend an hour with you for 100 euro. For 30 euro, the pinay will spend the night and morning with you. She might even not want to leave your air-conditioned hotel, and may hang with you several days. Try that in London.


It is not a matter of money, it is a matter of principle. If we pay such high, soon the women there will think that that is their value and soon they will behave like western women.Yes, we've been trying to tell that to PIpimp over in the AC thread for some time.

[Sammon]

Yes, you can. But the euro / american gal will only spend an hour with you for 100 euro. For 30 euro, the pinay will spend the night and morning with you. She might even not want to leave your air-conditioned hotel, and may hang with you several days. Try that in London.I have paid $200-$300 for one shot service in USA. Mostly in the casino pick up and massage places $60 for massage + $100 min for full service.

When I go to Phi I will spend $40-$50 at the most for LT which means all night (Sometime day too if I like the girl and the girl likes to stay ).

All Phi girls I met not only like to sleep all night in my nice cool hotel with Air-Con (Although some girls want me to turn air-con down or shut it off ). Most of them want multiple shots.

Same with other Asian girls. They have so far not developed no to sex attitude. If I am ready, they are ready to please me.

Only girls in USA I like are the regular dating non-p4p girls. Yes, they want to fuck a lot and be with me. But it is not easy to find find young girls to sleep with you. There seems to be a age barrier in socializing.

In asian countries there is no problem dating, going out, kissing, making out with non working young girls. Ofcourse some money + gifts needs to be given so not totally free.

[Pinaypounder]

Have you ever meet a who woman who reeeeally like it? You sure?

Consider: if women did like it, there were no needs of brothels, up and down the whole history of human beings.

I have met dozens of women that really like it, married 2 of them, dated 15 of them.

Fucked another 100 or so that really liked it. But then due to practise I am good at it.

The women in the Phils love fucking of the 135 or so I have had I think 2 or 3 did not really like it.

They are constantly wet, I have repeated with every woman I wanted to and only 10. 15% were working girls and the 3 that did not like it were working girls.

Work on your technique my man.

Most women like to fuck and be fucked in my travels. Read some books.

PP

[FreebieFan]

Finally its the day all Sogo's wait for. If you are in Manila and see a line of cars trying to enter a Sogo, its not that there is a traffic jam, its that people are happy to wait in a queue / line for their turn to have 3 hours of fun. The line starts, as I recall from about 9am onwards, meaning all rooms are full and the queue is for those waiting their turn.

So if you and your honey don't have a place to play, don't try Sogo today.

Where do these amourous people go for the other 364 days of the year I wonder.

[FreebieFan]

Like many of us here, I have a regular posse of ladies who seem happy and willing to meet me whenever I visit. Some are great in bed, some just want companionship (and bed!) , some just want to have a guy who dates them nicely (and bed!).

Anyways long time since I had a young innocent one. Been chatting with a cute student, just turned 19, lives outside Manila, not rich and not dirt poor either. Anyays chat chat, cam cam, smiles smile, sweet text back and forth etc and find out she's never been touched.

Said she's never even had a nice long kiss yet and no man has ever touched her.

Says she knows from watching porn on internet what happens with man and woman, but has yet to experience it.

Wrote her nice long email to explain what happens in written detail. Told me that my email turned her on and left a wet spot on her panties.

She's now sent me some pics of her in her bra and panties which she said took her hours to build up the courage to do.

She's now told me " you can do anything you like with me" "you have my permission to do anything with me". Which she has recently abbreviated to " I'm all yours " LOL.

We will be meeting in 2 weeks, from 10am til 4pm (she has to get home before dark!) and hopefully she wil arrive a girl and go home a woman. Haven't had a virgin in a while and I'm quietly enjoying the fact she's letting me do a "sweet seduction".

[Ogman]

You should be able to get all the V you want at pretty much any drug store. There's a Mercury on almost every corner. For example across the way from Shangri La next to the California Pizza Kitchen. But, the all night ones are on the corner near Makati Ave and Burgos. One is a little more hidden, one is right on Makati Ave. Tell the taxi to drop you off on the corner there and just ask if it's not obvious. As for SIM card. Buy it at the airport on the way in.Lalake!

Thanks for the tip on the Mercury Pharmacy. Is there any difference in prices between professional pharmacies? I will also be buying off the street just to see dsince I hear the knock-off Viagra and Cialis is still effective.

Bless India! I also got a tip on Black ant that I hope to try as well. The main information I seek is where to buy reliable and cheaper supplies or is the best 'bang for the peso'. So I can use my pesos to do more banging.

[Key Master]

If you are not in a rush for a SIM card, you can just buy it for around 40 pesos with no load at a 7 Eleven and then buy the corresponding load with it. Lots of places will sell SIM cards and load.

[Red Kilt]

Thanks for the tip on the Mercury Pharmacy. .I don't know about AC or other places but not every Mercury Pharmacy in Manila will sell you Viagra, Cialis or the locally-made (and legitimate) brand of Sildenifil called Andros without a prescription.

I have 4 outlets around my condo. 2 of them will sell me Andros with no problem; one of them always questions me and I bluff my way through; the fourth one implacably refuses to sell.
Andros is cheaper than V or C. Not too much cheaper but if you want the legit pills then it is the same as V and cheaper.

My advice is that if one pharmacy will not sell it then just go to the next one. It is no big drama but I just wanted to let any newbie know that you may get a knockback here and there but don't be discouraged.

BTW, Watsons will not sell without a prescription.

[Lalake]

I don't know about AC or other places but not every Mercury Pharmacy in Manila will sell you Viagra, Cialis or the locally-made (and legitimate) brand of Sildenifil called Andros without a prescription.

I have 4 outlets around my condo. 2 of them will sell me Andros with no problem; one of them always questions me and I bluff my way through; the fourth one implacably refuses to sell.

Andros is cheaper than V or C. Not too much cheaper but if you want the legit pills then it is the same as V and cheaper.

My advice is that if one pharmacy will not sell it then just go to the next one. It is no big drama but I just wanted to let any newbie know that you may get a knockback here and there but don't be discouraged.

BTW, Watsons will not sell without a prescription.Good info, RK. I always recommend the places near Burgos. And I don't buy on the street. I always feel they're overpriced and selling knock offs. I can pay for the real stuff and hope I get it at the pharmacy. I saw the discussion about Black Ant and Andros. Anyone have a brief, one sentence, description of these?

[Red Kilt]

Good info, RK. I saw the discussion about Black Ant and Andros. Anyone have a brief, one sentence, description of these?It comes in a box of 5 tabs. One box of 5 tablets of 100 mg each costs 1660 pesos (332 php each). Apparently 50 mg tabs are available too for the same price but my friendly chemist told me that it is cheaper to buy the 100 mg and bite them in half or even 1/4 if you just need a "leg-up". So you could say it is 10 x 50 mg tabs at 166 pesos each. As I said - still not cheap but less expensive than real V and you know it is legit and not street stuff. *sorry about the flash in the photo - I am not as skilled as WC or CS with picture taking lol.

[FreebieFan]

Whilst it may end up in being a waste of time and effort I'm trying to take one of my ladies (aka Sextoy) out of the country on one of my business trips.

She has passport and ticket. She will be flying out of Cebu Pacific terminal in Manila. She will be travelling alone.

She will only be staying for 3 days, so its hopefuly clear to the Customs wankers she's not on a 14 day hooker trip.

Do any of you have any tips or experiences as to what she should should or shouldn't say to the Customs guy when he asks where she's going and why?

Had a chat with a 31 year old ex gf who tried to fly to see her bf in Jakarta out of Clark. Customs guy said maybe the guy was going to enslave her or make her a drugs mule (a 52 year old French banker. Yeah right.)

Any help appreciated!

[Stroker Ace88]

a few days ago i watched a show on dzmm teleradyo, the name of the show is 'xxx". it deals with all kinds of sex-related matters and one section of the show caught my attention. the reporter followed some cops to raid a seller of sex toys in avenida, manila. the cops showed the sex toys they confirep001ed to the reporter and it was all pixelated but you could tell dildos were on the desk. some in boxes and some without.

the cops also confirep001ed some generic vitamin v and other herbal enhancers. the guy who sold the toys was in handcuffs in the station and the chief used the words "immoral and illegal" to describe the sellers actions. i do not know if it was only a show for the cameras or if it's part of a larger crackdown. interesting.

here is a description of the show as originally posted on peh. ph;

can too much love kill a person? as valentine's day looms, broadcast journalist pinky webb investigates various crimes of passion between lovers in xxx this monday (february 13). from murder due to jealousy or harassment from a former lover, pinky probes how people are led to commit acts of violence against their lovers or partners and shares how people can avoid committing these crimes.

meanwhile, anthony taberna investigates the complaint against a teacher who is reportedly active in visiting pornographic sites and would even take his sex trades in the campus, while julius babao tails a raid in avenida, manila, where sex toys are being sold on sidewalks. xxx airs this monday (february 13) after bandila on abs-cbn. you can also watch it at dzmm teleradyo (skycable ch 26) the same day at 9:15 pm.

[Sir Lancelot]

I know a lot like AF1 but I'm particular to SF because they have the wet massage on the air bed. Cost is 2000 for the room and 2000 as a tip for the girl for a total of 4000. SF has 3 "classes" of rooms / girls and I believe AF1 has 2 or 3 classes also. I haven't been there for several years so I can't recall the exact format.

If you've never been, I would recommend going at least once to experience looking at the aquarium (look at all 3 classes) and choosing out of the dozens of girls. You can always leave if you don't find anything to your liking.Thanks for this Sugoi. I may check it out. I like sipping a beer while checking out fishbowls. If only Manila had massage parlours like Bangkok or Jakarta (Nataree and Hotel Classic respectively).

[Lalake]

out of the country on one of my business trips.

She will be flying out of Cebu Pacific terminal in Manila. She will be travelling alone.

She will only be staying for 3 days, so its hopefuly clear to the Customs wankers she's not on a 14 day hooker trip.

Do any of you have any tips or experiences as to what she should should or shouldn't say to the Customs guy when he asks where she's going and why?

Any help appreciated!What country is she going to? That's kind of key to the story here. When you refer to clearing Customs, are you talking about 'Immigration' whilst leaving the phils? Can help more with better info.

[Run Mann]

Do any of you have any tips or experiences as to what she should should or shouldn't say to the Customs guy when he asks where she's going and why?She should probably want to know what to tell customs or immigration at the arrival point more than the departure wouldn't she?

[FreebieFan]

What country is she going to? That's kind of key to the story here. When you refer to clearing Customs, are you talking about 'Immigration' whilst leaving the phils? Can help more with better info.Singapore. Yes Immigration clearance required.

[Member #4491]

As I said - still not cheap but less expensive than real V and you know it is legit and not street stuff.As many here, I tried pills I bought on the street and they where not good at all, so I agree fully. Better to pay 300-400 for a good pill than swallowing god knows what (I leave that to the girls).

IMHO Andros are better than Viagra, Cialis and other "herbal options". And they are named after a cute island as well. Viagra has a general bad effect on my body (heart, skin, nasal congestion, etc) , and most of the Chinese pills gives me a clogged up nose as well. I had cases where my general condition deteriorated so far that I could not focus on the sex; hence the boner was gone in minutes and I had to discontinue the fun. As RK writes, Sildenafil is the active ingredient in both Viagra and Andros but strange enough these pills do not have identical effect on me.

If I have no Andros, I choose Cialis (Tadalfil) or just wait until the cannon is reloaded. I read one study where 7 out of 10 men did choose Tadalfil over Sildenafil, which makes me liking Andros but selecting Cialis over Vaiagra even more confusing. But I must be true to my T-Rex and feed him the quality vitamins that he likes, even if it does not make sense. Maybe it is all in my head? Will try Levitra (Vardenafil) a bit more extensively during my next visit to punani-paradise, I. E. Next week. And maybe the "dietary supplement" Robust that someone told me works for him.

Another side effect noticed is that I tend to get more aggressive after eating any of these pills for a while. Or maybe it is a consequence from just being in the Philippines banging anything with a pulse for a couple of weeks.

B.

[Econo Tech]

She should probably want to know what to tell customs or immigration at the arrival point more than the departure wouldn't she?Run Mann: in the Stasi state of Philippines, Filipinos dread their own immigration at departure, than at the other end. Their arrival.

The Immigration in Philippines is known to scam / threaten and often pull out a dozen people off the plane, on various guise to make up their numbers on 'rescued victims of possible [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)' including those who have valid work pass to work in Singapore, Malaysia and Mid-East.

A payment of some 10, 000 peso or so magically restores the person back on the flight.

Oh, for those going to ME or SIN, the immigration will insist on an "Affidavit of Support" I. E invite letter, from the other end, which is worthless at the other end but costs 50 US$ at the Phil Embassy at the other end to issue. And even then a 'fine' of 5, 000 peso is common.

Heck, even married couples have been threatened for being [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) victims, until more than enough filipinos meekly carry their marriage cert along when they leave the country.

Even per their own law, Immigration has the right to ask you to produce your leave approval.

It has been discussed in detail before. Do some reading on that.

[Red Kilt]

Whilst it may end up in being a waste of time and effort I'm trying to take one of my ladies (aka Sextoy) out of the country on one of my business trips.

She has passport and ticket. She will be flying out of Cebu Pacific terminal in Manila. She will be travelling alone.

She will only be staying for 3 days, so its hopefuly clear to the Customs wankers she's not on a 14 day hooker trip.

. .Length of stay doesn't matter FF.

My friend (in HK) tried to fly his filipina to HK 3 weeks ago for a weekend out of T3 using Cebu Pacific. She was travelling alone.

Immigration grilled her why she was going. She didn't have any letters of guarantee from her "sponsor". They asked her how much cash she was carrying. She didn't have much (2000 php).

They refused her boarding. They were not reassured that she was going for legitimate reasons nor that she had sufficient funds to pay her way in case her "sponsor" dipped out.

Be careful that you don't blow the funds on a ticket. My friend did.

If you go through with it: Give her a letter that details who you are and why and where she is going (you don't have to include "your bedroom and to screw my brains out" lol). I also suggest you tell her to dress conservatively, and make sure she has a fair load of cash.

[Bnlee2]

Length of stay doesn't matter FF.

My friend (in HK) tried to fly his filipina to HK 3 weeks ago for a weekend out of T3 using Cebu Pacific. She was travelling alone.

Immigration grilled her why she was going. She didn't have any letters of guarantee from her "sponsor". They asked her how much cash she was carrying. She didn't have much (2000 php).

They refused her boarding. They were not reassured that she was going for legitimate reasons nor that she had sufficient funds to pay her way in case her "sponsor" dipped out.

Be careful that you don't blow the funds on a ticket. My friend did.

If you go through with it: Give her a letter that details who you are and why and where she is going (you don't have to include "your bedroom and to screw my brains out" LOL). I also suggest you tell her to dress conservatively, and make sure she has a fair load of cash.If you give a load of cash for the trip, she may call and tell you that she needs to go back home to tend a sick family member. When she returns in a few weeks, she will tell you that she spent the money on the sick family member and ask you for another load of cash to get on the plane to meet you. I would never trust a poor filipina gal with a load of cash. Too many temptation.

[Stroker Ace88]

She should probably want to know what to tell customs or immigration at the arrival point more than the departure wouldn't she?No, departure is the key. Going through Philippine Immigration is the hard part. After Philippine Immigration busted some guys actively moving girls from AC Bars to other points in Asia to ply there trade at increased prices. All points of departure for destinations in SEA are on the list for increased scrutiny, with AC and Manila being the hardest to depart for obvious reasons.

Single young girls (not married) travelling alone have the hardest time to get out of the Philippines without supporting documents like work visa, letter writen by family members who live in her chosen destination, copy of death certificate of family member recently deceased in her chosen destination. In other words a good reason for going. If for whatever reason the Immigration officer thinks the girl might be taking the trip for sex purposes she will be flagged and pulled aside. In the office she will undergo more serious questioning and if her story doesn't add up they will refuse to allow her to leave the Philippines and her name could be entered into an Immigration watch list that will raise red flags should she try to depart the Philippines from another airport.

Philippine Immigration will ask key questions like, her work and education status in the Philippines, reason for the trip, proof who payed for the flight, proof of her hotel booking and if she will not stay in a hotel a letter signed by a family member stating she will stay at there residence at X street for x number of days. If the woman is under the age of 23 and travelling alone Immigration could request a signed letter of consent by her parents that they know about her trip and approve. This same letter of approval is requested when a woman under 23 gets married away from her birthplace area and thus away from her close family.

The appearance of the girl also matters. If she looks like a bargirl forget about it. If she seems somewhat conservative and Hi-so that's her best chance to pass Immigration without incident but that will depend on her answers and documents.

Also guys departing the Philippines for destinations in other SEA countries with younger Philippine girls face increased resistance since the bargirl export ring was exposed. Travelling with sex toys in your bag and porn on your laptop is not a smart move if travelling together. The male traveller will also face more serious questioning and if the Immigration officials do not like the answers the girl can be denied departure and the guy can be placed on a watch list.

If the girl is allowed to leave, entry into her Country of destination is not guaranteed and she will again have to face a few questions but the hard part is being allowed to board the plane. Also another tip is to purchase her a round trip ticket with the same airline. That takes the obligation off the airline to make sure she has a confirmed return ticket.

[FreebieFan]

Length of stay doesn't matter FF.

My friend (in HK) tried to fly his filipina to HK 3 weeks ago for a weekend out of T3 using Cebu Pacific. She was travelling alone.

Immigration grilled her why she was going. She didn't have any letters of guarantee from her "sponsor". They asked her how much cash she was carrying. She didn't have much (2000 php).

They refused her boarding. They were not reassured that she was going for legitimate reasons nor that she had sufficient funds to pay her way in case her "sponsor" dipped out.

Be careful that you don't blow the funds on a ticket. My friend did.

If you go through with it: Give her a letter that details who you are and why and where she is going (you don't have to include "your bedroom and to screw my brains out" LOL). I also suggest you tell her to dress conservatively, and make sure she has a fair load of cash.Yes, she has the hotel resvn letter, she has the letter from her auntie, she has the story and has practiced it. She has has the conservative dress, flat shoes and glasses (looks like a real nerd even if hottest thing I ever played with) But hey, nothing ventured nothing gained. One low cost ticket on cebu pac lost isn't the end of the world.

[FreebieFan]

No, departure is the key. Going through Philippine Immigration is the hard part. After Philippine Immigration busted some guys actively moving girls from AC Bars to other points in Asia to ply there trade at increased prices. All points of departure for destinations in SEA are on the list for increased scrutiny, with AC and Manila being the hardest to depart for obvious reasons.

Single young girls (not married) travelling alone have the hardest time to get out of the Philippines without supporting documents like work visa, letter writen by family members who live in her chosen destination, copy of death certificate of family member recently deceased in her chosen destination. In other words a good reason for going. If for whatever reason the Immigration officer thinks the girl might be taking the trip for sex purposes she will be flagged and pulled aside. In the office she will undergo more serious questioning and if her story doesn't add up they will refuse to allow her to leave the Philippines and her name could be entered into an Immigration watch list that will raise red flags should she try to depart the Philippines from another airport.

Philippine Immigration will ask key questions like, her work and education status in the Philippines, reason for the trip, proof who payed for the flight, proof of her hotel booking and if she will not stay in a hotel a letter signed by a family member stating she will stay at there residence at X street for x number of days. If the woman is under the age of 23 and travelling alone Immigration could request a signed letter of consent by her parents that they know about her trip and approve. This same letter of approval is requested when a woman under 23 gets married away from her birthplace area and thus away from her close family.

The appearance of the girl also matters. If she looks like a bargirl forget about it. If she seems somewhat conservative and Hi-so that's her best chance to pass Immigration without incident but that will depend on her answers and documents.

Also guys departing the Philippines for destinations in other SEA countries with younger Philippine girls face increased resistance since the bargirl export ring was exposed. Travelling with sex toys in your bag and porn on your laptop is not a smart move if travelling together. The male traveller will also face more serious questioning and if the Immigration officials do not like the answers the girl can be denied departure and the guy can be placed on a watch list.

If the girl is allowed to leave, entry into her Country of destination is not guaranteed and she will again have to face a few questions but the hard part is being allowed to board the plane. Also another tip is to purchase her a round trip ticket with the same airline. That takes the obligation off the airline to make sure she has a confirmed return ticket.Thanks Stroker to you and the others. Wel will see how it goes.

I've done a lot of this already but some new points here I hadn't thought of. Its been so much easier to take an Indonesian or Thai out of their country.

[Run Mann]

No, departure is the key.

If departure is the key, I say arrival is the lock and key because unless she is travelling to maybe Thailand, the immigration officer at the arrival port will be just as if not more interested in her reasons for coming into their port. I've seen Filipinas rejected in droves at Incheon and some at Narita so I say she should focus on a solid story to in order to gain entry but many do get in so if you purchase a refundable ticket you have little to lose.

[Red Kilt]

If departure is the key, I say arrival is the lock and key because unless she is travelling to maybe Thailand, the immigration officer at the arrival port will be just as if not more interested in her reasons for coming into their port. I've seen Filipinas rejected in droves at Incheon and some at Narita so I say she should focus on a solid story to in order to gain entry but many do get in so if you purchase a refundable ticket you have little to lose.You might be correct in your assessment of other ports RM but Stroker Ace and I know more about the Philippines and we both know for reasons already canvassed that it is not easy getting OUT of the Philippines if you are a young, single Filipina.

To FF. Well done mate. You have schooled her well (as you so often do LOL).

I also agree: Nothing ventured nothing gained. She may well sail through with nary a problem.

But your initial post did not indicate that you had done all this homework so Stroker Ace and I leapt to your assistance (but looks like you didn't really need our ideas after all)

[FreebieFan]

If you give a load of cash for the trip, she may call and tell you that she needs to go back home to tend a sick family member. When she returns in a few weeks, she will tell you that she spent the money on the sick family member and ask you for another load of cash to get on the plane to meet you. I would never trust a poor filipina gal with a load of cash. Too many temptation.Having known this lady for a year or two since she was 19, and having only ONCE been asked in that time for a P1500 WU help I think I'm quite quite quite ok with this one. Heck, she even paid for dinner and drinks on my birthday! Been visiting Phils for 28 years now, as well as have lived there. By now, my instincts are pretty well honed as to who I can and can't trust. But yes, for some of these ladies, cash in pocket might well be a big temptation.

[FreebieFan]

But didn't know where else to post this.

One current gf and I were chatting the other day about interesting non standard sexual stuff such as "dogging " (which for our non English brothers here is where man and woman fuck in car and others, who may have been out walking their dogs, hence the name, enjoy watching and fisting.

Given that dogging is never going to be much of a sport in puritanical Philippines, I wanted to ask if members here have tried fisting their honeys.

And then if did, how long did it take to gain full entrance, did the girl enjoy, was it something you might recommend as an activity etc. Any thought from fisting experts would be appreciated.

[Sugoi]

Thanks for this Sugoi. I may check it out. I like sipping a beer while checking out fishbowls. If only Manila had massage parlours like Bangkok or Jakarta (Nataree and Hotel Classic respectively).Just ask the guy for a beer and they'll get you one. One other thing about Starfleet is that on the Presidential level (the one with the soapy massage) , you leave your shoes and the guys will shine them for you. When you're done they put your socks and shoes on for you also.

[Cool Traveler]

Red Kilt, I'the like to add something here if it is ok with you. I went through twice and, the first time, the girl told exactly what happened, and the second time, I was prepared:

The immigration WILL NOT allow these girls to travel by themselves, especially if they are traveling alone. They usually let them travel if certain questions are answered appropriately.

1. They (immigration) will ask where they are going, and where they are staying. Make sure they have a copy of the hotel booking. Send her a copy of the booking. But guys, if you don't want your personal information known, edit the booking document before you email it off. Use Adobe Pro, or something similar and change the info, like your phone number, delete out credit card info, etc. Etc. For those non-techies, the oldies but goodies, use white out, scan and email. I edited it in such a way that it had fake address, phone number, and initialized my last name.

2. They will ask if she has met this person. Response – make sure you prepare the girl. Tell her to tell the officers that she has known you two years or three years, and that you have met couple of time in Phillipines (remember in Phillipines with some detail).

3. And yes, red Kilt is right, dress conservatively, preferably to look older and mature. Don't get her dress sexy so you can see her at the airport.

4. Send an invitation letter, just like red says, describing how long you know this girl. Etc. Etc.

5. Full travel plans, date of return, with return ticket.

6. Maybe send your travel itenary. I did this, again edit out any sensitive info.

7. Remember, if you book your ticket, especially with Cebu Pacific, you cannot get a refund. When canceling the flight, cancel before the day of the trip, then you can get a credit, but also remember the credit will under the name of the traveler, not under the name of the purchaser. Once you commit, kiss this money good bye.

8. Add all this money up, maybe it might be wiser to just trying to get a chick in HK, though I am not trying to discourage you. I did get the chick down to HK, and with those nice hotels, and with her sort of trapped with me, made full use of the viagra.

9. But again, being a realist, chances are 50/50 that the lass would be able to board the flight. So, be prepared to lose that money.

Good luck.

Cool Traveler.

[WestCoast1]

But didn't know where else to post this.

One current gf and I were chatting the other day about interesting non standard sexual stuff such as "dogging " (which for our non English brothers here is where man and woman fuck in car and others, who may have been out walking their dogs, hence the name, enjoy watching and fisting.

Given that dogging is never going to be much of a sport in puritanical Philippines, I wanted to ask if members here have tried fisting their honeys.

And then if did, how long did it take to gain full entrance, did the girl enjoy, was it something you might recommend as an activity etc. Any thought from fisting experts would be appreciated.I've had two former gf's in the States who I fisted. Both girls had never done it before. It takes weeks (if not months) of practice (at twice / week) to get inside fully. Like learning to deep throat (overcoming the gag reflex) , it takes considerable time and effort. It can also be quite rewarding once its occurred and a regular thing.

[Cuba Tourist]

"Immigration grilled her why she was going. She didn't have any letters of guarantee from her "sponsor". They asked her how much cash she was carrying. She didn't have much (2000 php)."

Anna from Beeline Travel told me my girlfriend had to have $500 US in cash with her as well as a hotel payment receipt in her name (as well as mine). She is a university student with a very educated demeanor. But cash is king, as they say.

[Amboy927]

Longtime fan, first time post.

I have been going back and forth to the Philippines now for the last 2 years, spending close to 120 days while I setup a business.

Anyways, I haven't seen too many reports on Air Force One, so I might as well put up the latest and greatest.

I always hit Air Force One once a trip, and it was my very first KTV experience. I can say that two years ago. This place was untouchable in terms of quality, service, selection of girls, food, drink, amenities. My last two trips were in November 2011 and January 2012. Prior to those last two trips it was March 2011.

I can say.what a difference. I think they are going through their down cycle. I can no longer call this the best. Their show up in January was weak. Not a whole lot of 9s / 10s as I'm used to. Just a bunch of 7s and definitely not worth the price they were trying to extort.

The only saving grace has been their Sexy Spotlight Girls. THere are a handful, and they command high prices (1k per hour as a companion) but very much worth it. These 7 or 9 girls could be the cover of FHM any given day.

The place opens up at 6 which has a happy hour.but save your money. The stunners don't show up until 8. Stays open until 4AM. But Closed on Sundays. You will be helped by GRM, or manager or mamasan. Whichever you choose to call her. Her job is to sell you a room ASAP. You can sit at the bar, or sit in one of the booths in the public area. The booths are 800 pesos with consumable, the private rooms start at 3k for a small one. About you and two other buddies and their girls, or 5k for larger. I have not needed anything larger than the 5k, so I don't know about the Obama suite, or price of that one.

If you are flying solo. The best bet is to get the booth, get a showup, pick your girl, chat and drink for a few minutes and pull the trigger or let her go.

They have three tiers of GROs which start at 800/900/1000 per hour to sit with you. If you want to come in and take a girl out ASAP you are still going to have to pay for a two hour minimum on top of the release. Depending on your girl it could cost you 9k. 11k. 13k for the top of the line to take her out and have her spend the night with you.

If you don't feel like spending that much cash, or taking her home, you can do the deed then and there. I got a 2nd tier girl and she cost 3. 5k and theyll try and sell you one of hte KTV rooms, I recommend against it and take her to one of the rooms at FLight 168. Its 3. 5k for her, plus the room at 168 which is 3. 5k as well. The 168 rooms have showers and amenities, everything you need. Just bring your own condom. There is no real time limit, at least in my experience. So enjoy. But know that you are still paying for her hourly while you are with her. So keep that in mind.

I would recommend AF1 if you really are willing to pay the price, at least get a beer and maybe a showup. But as of last time, unless you are getting the spotlight girls. Don't bother.

[Lalake]

It comes in a box of 5 tabs. One box of 5 tablets of 100 mg each costs 1660 pesos (332 php each). Apparently 50 mg tabs are available too for the same price but my friendly chemist told me that it is cheaper to buy the 100 mg and bite them in half or even 1/4 if you just need a "leg-up". So you could say it is 10 x 50 mg tabs at 166 pesos each. As I said - still not cheap but less expensive than real V and you know it is legit and not street stuff. *sorry about the flash in the photo - I am not as skilled as WC or CS with picture taking lol.Thanks RK.

Any of you guys ever heard of a Cialis type gel being available? I would love to try that.

[Member #4491]

Thanks RK.

Any of you guys ever heard of a Cialis type gel being available? I would love to try that.It is bitter and VERY effective. I took it a few times in Thailand. Never did see it in the Philippines, but then again I am normally in the south so perhaps it reached Manila.

Barba

[D Cups]

Thanks RK.

Any of you guys ever heard of a Cialis type gel being available? I would love to try that.Yes I bought some at a bar in BKK, Lalake, so I assume it is available elsewhere. It works even better and faster than the pill. Don't eat the whole pack, though, or you will get a bad headache. At least that's what happened to me. A whopping uncontrollable purple pulsating heat seeking missile within minutes, however! Hahah

[JPF]

I just spent two days in Manila here are a few tidbits:

- Cafe Havana: around 8pm on a Saturday there was little to no freelancer action. I saw perhaps 8-10 women in small groups, only one of whom looked back at me. Two lady boys did try to pick me up, though.

Also, I don't recommend the restaurant Mr. Rockafeller, an oyster / seafood restaurant on the second level.

- Burgos St: a lot of bars had few to no customers on Friday night around midnight. I took a woman from Dimples. She was very friendly in the bar, a little less so in the room. She was happy to come on her own time so I avoided the 3000p bar fine (I think they discount the amount you spent on drinks). A tip: bring a piece of paper with your phone number on it. The women are not allowed to give out their numbers. Luckily mine was able to memorize mine long enough to go to the dressing room to enter it into her phone as I was leaving. Her tip was also 3000.

- as was recommended in this forum, the Fingers and Palms Massage on Burgos opposite the Makati Palace Hotel does offer extras along with the massage. Don't try to find the massage parlour as all the masseuses are on the street handing out cards: find them. Massage is 300p for one hour in their office or 500 in your room. It was decent but a bit rough. She wanted 1700 for BJ and 1200 for HJ but accepted the lower price for the BJ. It was pretty good plus the added thrill of doing it in a room with thin dividers near the manager and other customer.

[FreebieFan]

It is bitter and VERY effective. I took it a few times in Thailand. Never did see it in the Philippines, but then again I am normally in the south so perhaps it reached Manila.

BarbaKamagra makes a great jel, they sell them in BKK in 50 sachet boxes. They work a treat, and are way faster than tabs as they are in gel form. But sadly, never encountered these anywhere outside of BKK. Thailand imports them direct from India.

[Gangles]

I was recently dropped off at a bus station in Cubao. While I was walking along the EDSA, trying to get a taxi, I was looking for Ali Bang Bang, or Bang Bang Ali bars. I did not see them.

Does anyone know if they are still open? It has been a couple of years since I was there last.

These places are really sleaze heaven. Bare floor, with a ring of plastic seats in a circle. Woman gets into the circle, strips off, and then performs her routine. Hands on from the punters is expected. A real contact sport. You buy your drinks in pairs.

A taxi driver told me that there is an even sleazier place in Pasay, but he could not take me there.

G

[Key Master]

I just spent two days in Manila here are a few tidbits:

- Cafe Havana: around 8pm on a Saturday there was little to no freelancer action. I saw perhaps 8-10 women in small groups, only one of whom looked back at me. Two lady boys did try to pick me up, though.

Also, I don't recommend the restaurant Mr. Rockafeller, an oyster / seafood restaurant on the second level.

- Burgos St: a lot of bars had few to no customers on Friday night around midnight. I took a woman from Dimples. She was very friendly in the bar, a little less so in the room. She was happy to come on her own time so I avoided the 3000p bar fine (I think they discount the amount you spent on drinks). A tip: bring a piece of paper with your phone number on it. The women are not allowed to give out their numbers. Luckily mine was able to memorize mine long enough to go to the dressing room to enter it into her phone as I was leaving. Her tip was also 3000.Thanks for the report. Havana to me, starts out later for that kind of thing. Probably no earlier than 10 and maybe really only gets going around 11-12 at night. There are a lot of regular people going there earlier just for the food and such which to me is actually pretty decent. I used to go to Rockafeller's all the time. Last year the service and food went to shit and I stopped going. Burgos is dying it seems. They don't know how to turn it around. What a shame.

[D Cups]

Burgos is dying it seems. They don't know how to turn it around. What a shame.Yikes, say it isn't so! Gangles, did you see this? I'll be there in a 2. 5 weeks so let's do a kiki dance to the kiki gods and hopefully the kikis will return! I do have some DIA phone numbers just in case. And, as KM pointed out, there's always Havana for your banana.

[FreebieFan]

Finally able to break out of married mans prison and have a Manila trip scheduled arriving March 3, and all my dates lined up in a row. Nothing can go wrong, can it. Where is that Murphy guy.

Anyways plan be and plan see are also in place.

First up will be a visit by a cute 19 year old virgin. She's decided its time to give it up and who better to give it to than Freebie.

Took quite a few phone calls and endless hours of chat but as she has told me many times " I'm all yours". Got her some slutwear and should be a great morning and afternoon, as long as the period stays away. She has to leave early as Mum wants her innocent daughter home before dark.

Will have two hours rest then will meet another 19 year old. Met her on my last trip when she gave me a sensational 5 minute plus BJ that I captured on cam. Had many a fantasy moment with that particular video. Anyways she's booked from 6pm till the morning.

Next morning will have some work, then its a girl who I think is 21. Doesn't get out much but she's coming from Cavite to meet me. She asked if we were staying together overnight, and told her maybe / maybe not. Nah aint gona happen honey, you will be staying till 6pm only.

Then its off to meet my all time favourite, sweet girl 25, who happily models bikinis for me all night, and as she has more wine, the bikini seems to fall off etc. She's booked for overnight too. Best body I have ever seen.

Then next day, will meet a new one from Mandaluyong. Weve done the naked on cam bit together so we both know we have perfect bodies (LOL!). She's promised to get naked as soon as we walk through the door.

So thats the plan.

From there I'm flying to Singapore where my pinay sextoy girl should be meeting me, depending on the whims of Immigration. Tiring few days in store for Freebie. Report will of course be forthcoming. Freebie of course also be forthcoming, fifthcoming etc.

[Mc Don]

Spent 2 night on burgos Monday and Tuesday and its business as usual. In Rogues I could not get a seat on Monday or Tuesday. Other clubs have few customers but what do you expect when they charge 180 peso for a coke or 350-400 for a burbon and coke. Overall girls are much better looking then AC and bars continue to be dirtyer then AC. I can't recall which bar I was in but as I was fingering a girl right next to a guy who was getting a blow job in the front raw infront of the stage.

Place worth checking out for those that like to try their luck picking up is a disco called KYSS which is oposite St Gilles near the A venue Hotel. Great looking girls few foreigners and a good relaxed atmospehere.

Anyone in town and wants to catch a show I highly recomend Fuerza Bruta which will be in town until March 25. 2500p per person with 2 free drinks. Argentinian show, mixture of disco, special effects and some sexy nudity. Part of the show is girls water sliding over the crowd. With pleasent views ala Bacara in BKK or Patt.

[Whankyou]

Apologies for sounding foolish. What is MBC?

I made search to see if I could find some further info but came up with "not a valid search"

Thanks for explanationManila Bay Cafe. Near Robinson's Mall in Ermita / Malate

[FurryFriend]

Length of stay doesn't matter FF.

My friend (in HK) tried to fly his filipina to HK 3 weeks ago for a weekend out of T3 using Cebu Pacific. She was travelling alone.

Immigration grilled her why she was going. She didn't have any letters of guarantee from her "sponsor". They asked her how much cash she was carrying. She didn't have much (2000 php).

They refused her boarding. They were not reassured that she was going for legitimate reasons nor that she had sufficient funds to pay her way in case her "sponsor" dipped out.They were right to refuse her travel. Once she's at the destination, Hong Kong immigration would almost certainly ask for proof of funds. 2000P will not cover one night's hotel room in Hong Kong.

About a year ago, there was a high profile story where a Filipino man wanted to visit Hong Kong for a family funeral. He only had P1000 on him so Hong Kong immigration turned him away. It made headlines in the Philippines as Hong Kong officials were depicted as heartless for not allowing him to attend a family funeral. So it's not just women who are refused entry into Hong Kong due to lack of funds.

By the way, the Philippine government isn't offloading girls solely to curb sex trafficking. They're also looking for girls working abroad (even legitimate jobs) and not registering as an OFW.

If I were your Hong Kong friend, I would fly to Manila and then escort her to Hong Kong. All other forms of preparation, such as ensuring she has a stack full of money, is too risky.


Philippine Immigration will ask key questions like, her work and education status in the PhilippinesI asked my 21 year old Filipina friend in Manila on whether she gets grilled by Philippine Immigration at the airport. She travels abroad twice a year. She said they simply ask "what is the purpose of your trip".

Then again, she travels with a group of other women. And being a university student, she doesn't look like some working girl. You're right in that appearance matters. But just as important is her demeanor. They will judge if she's a legitimate traveler simply by how she speaks.


4. Send an invitation letter, just like red says, describing how long you know this girl. Etc. Etc.I doubt an invitation letter will have any impact on whether Philippine Immigration will let her through. That can be easily forged.

All-in-all, if a monger has only met the Filipina online, paying to fly her to another location is just plain stupid. The risk and labor far outweighs the reward. And the Philippine government should rightfully be concerned whether a Filipina can support herself abroad. If things don't work out betweer her and her "sponsor", she's stuck in some far away place.

[AussieDoug]

Are you serious, all the girls, hundreds at a time if not thousands that are "working" in Hong Kong and Singapore etc go through this rigamarole, never heard of it before in any great numbers.


Red Kilt, I'the like to add something here if it is ok with you. I went through twice and, the first time, the girl told exactly what happened, and the second time, I was prepared:

The immigration WILL NOT allow these girls to travel by themselves, especially if they are traveling alone. They usually let them travel if certain questions are answered appropriately.

[X Man]

The original poster was very vague and it's hard to know if he was with the gal / gals or just heard a few stories. But in the end, he says "all these girls." I commend you on noticing that this kind of assertion is a bit of an overgeneralization. Nevertheless, we have to assume there are all kinds of people here, including non-native speakers.

On the other hand, we have to ask, 'which airports? ' I could speculate that the national govt would be happy to have their people go overseas and then send money back home (the longer the better). But if you are the local govt of AC, well why would you want your fun girls leaving the country for a week with their fun sugar daddies when they could be spending money locally?

Life is complicated. X.


Are you serious, all the girls, hundreds at a time if not thousands that are "working" in Hong Kong and Singapore etc go through this rigamarole, never heard of it before in any great numbers.

[Sammon]

Why would anybody take Phi girls on a romantic trip outside Phi with all these hassles?

There are plenty of nice places in Phi itself where you can have a romantic vacation. I have taken Thai girls to Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos. They do not seem to have problems getting out.

I did not take them to HKG or China mainly because of the hassles with HK immigration.

Many a times I have seen Phi girls are held and few times being escorted on to the plane back. Couple of girls I was chatting with near Duty free store told me they are waiting for almost 2 hours till immigration decides if they will be allowed in.

Yes, It is nice to have a sweet girl accompany on sightseeing trips. I have taken Chinese girls to Beijing, Cruise on Yangtze, Shanghai etc. Yes, they help a lot with language problem. Ofcourse all foreigner fellow tourists are green with envy especially on the cruise. There were some older Chinese gentlemen also with their arm candies. One British man asked me point blank if I am married to the girl, where I met her etc. I just hold him I am

Married to the girl to shut him up. Many men tried to chat her up but since my girl only speaks limited english there was nothing they could learn. Well, she was a 18 year old sichuan beauty with big boobs and pearly white skin.

She worked in a department her and knew how to dress elegant.

I have taken Phi girls on vacation in Phi only but nobody batted an eye.

[Sky Ryder]

Spent 2 night on burgos Monday and Tuesday and its business as usual. In Rogues I could not get a seat on Monday or Tuesday. Other clubs have few customers but what do you expect when they charge 180 peso for a coke or 350-400 for a burbon and coke. Overall girls are much better looking then AC and bars continue to be dirtyer then AC. I can't recall which bar I was in but as I was fingering a girl right next to a guy who was getting a blow job in the front raw infront of the stage.

Place worth checking out for those that like to try their luck picking up is a disco called KYSS which is oposite St Gilles near the A venue Hotel. Great looking girls few foreigners and a good relaxed atmospehere.

Anyone in town and wants to catch a show I highly recomend Fuerza Bruta which will be in town until March 25. 2500p per person with 2 free drinks. Argentinian show, mixture of disco, special effects and some sexy nudity. Part of the show is girls water sliding over the crowd. With pleasent views ala Bacara in BKK or Patt.I have to admit that I don't really enjoy Burgos, but I had a last minute stay in Manila and the hotel I got was I block off Burgos and Makati Ave. I was there on Wed night and it was completely dead at 10:30. I stopped in Jools about 7:15 and was greeted by 4 cute girls, I was the ONLY customer. Got a happy hour 2-4-1 SML, and chatted up the group. Was pressed to buy ladies drinks, politely declined for the moment and then wound up buying 2 of the girls and then all 4 a drink at the 200p Happy Hour price. Chatted some more, they took me to the KTV room, sang a few songs. Happy hour and my SMl's ended. I basically weeded out all but one of the girls, at one time there were 7 girls sitting with me and at 8:30 I was still the only customer. Asked the girl about the bar fine and was told,"We don't bar fine", we can't go out on duty. She was willing to see me after 1 am, but I had an early flight. Said good bye and told her I was sorry, but I wasn't going to stay if I couldn't take someone with me.

Noticed at least 3 large bars closed, stopped into two others along the way back to Makati Ave, don't remember the names, but the prices were all the same. Drinks 180 p each, ladies drinks 390p EACH, and bar fine 3000-3900 plus matching amount for the girl. One girl did say the girl's fee was up for discussion. One place I stopped, the girls said that NO ONE had even had a drink bought for 2 days. I didn't have the heart to tell them that there wasn't one girl in the place I would pay 100p to buy a drink because there was NO WAY I was going to take any of them home. Not sure even if it was free I would take them out. It would bring a whole new meaning to the walk of shame term.

Went to Havanna's, it was packed, but the jazz festival was putting a damper on the walking around trade. Numerous tables of girls giving me the "come hither" look, finally choose a lone wolf inside at the bar. She was cute, well dressed, smelled nice and laughed easily. Agreed to 1500 ST and off we went! Had such a good time, gave her 2000. The Starbuck's next door is now closed for remodeling, I guess it closed Monday sometime.

Whoever reported that Burgos is dying is on the money if what I saw is any indication, they are killing there own business's with ridiculous prices for drinks and girls. A girl at those prices would have been about 8500p by the time all costs are considered.

No way that is "market value" in Manila. At IMHO

[Lalake]

Noticed at least 3 large bars closed, stopped into two others along the way back to Makati Ave, don't remember the names, but the prices were all the same. Drinks 180 p each, ladies drinks 390p EACH, and bar fine 3000-3900 plus matching amount for the girl. One girl did say the girl's fee was up for discussion. One place I stopped, the girls said that NO ONE had even had a drink bought for 2 days. I didn't have the heart to tell them that there wasn't one girl in the place I would pay 100p to buy a drink because there was NO WAY I was going to take any of them home. Not sure even if it was free I would take them out. It would bring a whole new meaning to the walk of shame term.

Whoever reported that Burgos is dying is on the money if what I saw is any indication, they are killing there own business's with ridiculous prices for drinks and girls. A girl at those prices would have been about 8500p by the time all costs are considered.

No way that is "market value" in Manila. At IMHOBravo, Bravo. SR you are so right! My god, I've been going to Burgos for 15 years and know a mamasan since the first night I was there. Yes, I pay the prices but because I like the fun and only go once a year (because I go to Thailand more). But, I tell her everytime that the reason there are no customers is because ther owners are fucking stupid. Thailand prices were always cheaper, but, even now I go to Burgos and the prices still keep going up. Its because the idiot owners are now trying to make up for fewer customers by raising prices. (Yes, its true she told me that!)

Please, anyone who reads this and knows the owners, Tell them how stupid they are. They should have a Burgos Owners meeting and work out cheaper prices. Some of the owners own multiples bars which makes it even easier. I'll be in Burgos next week, and already told all my bar girls I will not be paying their bar fines. Last year in 3 nights I spent more than 30, 000p (bar fines, drinks and tips). That's Nuts.

Cheers

[Fast Buck Artist]

Please, anyone who reads this and knows the owners, Tell them how stupid they are. They should have a Burgos Owners meeting and work out cheaper prices. Some of the owners own multiples bars which makes it even easier. I'll be in Burgos next week, and already told all my bar girls I will not be paying their bar fines. Last year in 3 nights I spent more than 30, 000p (bar fines, drinks and tips). That's Nuts.

CheersIf you are willing to wait, many girls will agree to go out with you after their shift is over (no barfine) , but that could be 4am. If I am going there late at night, I bring small pieces of paper with my mongerphone number on them, which the girls can text once they are out from their bar. They know the barfine price is high, so often willing to go along with this arrangement. The risk is of course that the girl will not meet you cause she has to go attend to her kid / afraid of getting caught or just doesn't like you. Most will show up as agreed.. I had just one failure, the girl was barfined by another customer after I left the bar so she had to go with him.

[Mc Don]

Sky Ryder,

Burgos starts around 11 to 2am. Experianced mongerers try other venues before that to pick up a bargain. Burgos is usually a last chance for those that haven't picked up and are on a budget or for those that can afford to spend. I don't think business is any slower then before and I am there 7-8 times a year. Other then Rogues and the bars around Rogues that are cheaper the other bars often have only few customers at a time and they are content with that. Jools has been discussed on the forum before, its more of a show bar with cheaper drinks then most but its almost imposible to get a girl out of the joint. Davinos was another like that and its now closed. I think you went way to early for burgos and started on the wrong side of the street hance why you saw closed bars etc etc. On the other side bars are far more happening and have more clients.

Lalake,

Rogues is owned by the same guy that owns MBC. He knows how to run a profitable business and he does. Other bars are owned by wealthy individuals and are used for other things, lets just say they are not run for profit. They actually prefer less customers and prefer it to stay the way it is. Burgos and AC are VERY different in terms of who, why and how they are run. At the end of the day its really up to you to decide if this is a place for you or not. It won't ever change.

Like FBA said girls will see you before or after their shift. Unlike AC here they are not slaves to the bar and skiping the barfine is not a big sin, at least not as big as in AC. The only time you will get stood up is if she didn't like you or someone did pay the bf.

Just a reminder that burgos is considered mid price place in manila. There are number of KTVs and other venues that are FAR more expensive in Manila. In QC, Passay even Makati there are places that charge 10 000 peso for short time and yeah they have plenty of clients.

[FreebieFan]

Why would anybody take Phi girls on a romantic trip outside Phi with all these hassles?

I have taken Phi girls on vacation in Phi only but nobody batted an eye.I have also taken Indonesian and Thai girls without any hassle too. I'm taking a Filipina to Singapore, all being well in next 14 days. We will see what happens with Immigration.

Reason for doing so. Because I want to I guess, and in Sing, I prefer to know who I'm waking up with, that he girl will be waiting to shower me with kisses any time of the day, and will do whatever I ask her to do. Oh and at 21 she looks mighty fine on waking up too. Can't say thats always the case with the Orchard Towers ladies. Oh and it won't cost me anything. Except for the airfare, assuming she's allowed to get on the plane!

[D Cups]

Burgos starts around 11 to 2am. Rogues is owned by the same guy that owns MBC. .Thanks, McD. I bet he would be an interesting guy to get to know. I usually see girls from Rogues and other Burgos bars before or after their shift. But I think Rogues was the place the girls were having a BBBJ contest with me. 500P for the one that got me off right there in the bar (and of course drinks for all the participants).

[Sammon]

I have also taken Indonesian and Thai girls without any hassle too. I'm taking a Filipina to Singapore, all being well in next 14 days. We will see what happens with Immigration.

Reason for doing so. Because I want to I guess, and in Sing, I prefer to know who I'm waking up with, that he girl will be waiting to shower me with kisses any time of the day, and will do whatever I ask her to do. Oh and at 21 she looks mighty fine on waking up too. Can't say thats always the case with the Orchard Towers ladies. Oh and it won't cost me anything. Except for the airfare, assuming she's allowed to get on the plane!Do not expect " it won't cost anything ".

She expects gifts + money + some more gifts for her family. How to say no to a girl who keeps you happy.

These are girls with generally no job or low pay job and have no money. I would not expect you to say just the airfare and food is her reward.

[Red Kilt]

Do not expect " it won't cost anything ".

She expects gifts + money + some more gifts for her family. How to say no to a girl who keeps you happy.

These are girls with generally no job or low pay job and have no money. I would not expect you to say just the airfare and food is her reward.I am sure Freebie will respond Samm but since I know him well I can assure you that he very fully understands expectations, obligations, how to keep girls happy etc etc etc.

Let me reassure you on his behalf that he isn't called Freebie Fan for nothing. The girls line up to meet him one after the other. They expect nothing and usually get nothing except some cheap **** wear that they can only wear in a secluded place.

He expects and gets everything for free. Hell - I even have to buy the beers when he and I meet in between his sessions LOL. (Aussie humor mate)

[Mc Don]

I have also taken Indonesian and Thai girls without any hassle too. I'm taking a Filipina to Singapore, all being well in next 14 days. We will see what happens with Immigration.

Reason for doing so. Because I want to I guess, and in Sing, I prefer to know who I'm waking up with, that he girl will be waiting to shower me with kisses any time of the day, and will do whatever I ask her to do. Oh and at 21 she looks mighty fine on waking up too. Can't say thats always the case with the Orchard Towers ladies. Oh and it won't cost me anything. Except for the airfare, assuming she's allowed to get on the plane!Freebie I didn't get a chance to respond to your earlier posts, I was to busy in AC and Manila at the time. You got plenty of good advice here and I am sure you had it covered anyway. I have brought over on separate occasions two girls from Phils to Sing and they needed to show at least 100 USD per day spending money along with return tickets and accommodation booking in HER name. My girls were grilled on both ends and be aware that Singapore immigration isn't easy at all.

If you intend to make a habit out of flying her over and time permits I strongly suggest you make sure she gets few more stamps in her passport. A day trip or overnight stay in Batam with a return via JB is worth doing. More stamps in the passport less grilling next time.

For those that don't want to send money over for whatever reason ask the girl to borrow it. One of my girls asked on of her relos to borrow the money on her behalf and she managed to get some cash from those 5/6 sharks to make sure she has enough to pass through customs. Obviously I payed for the interest once I meet her in Singapore.

Also if she has relatives in Singapore make sure that they have sent a letter inviting her over and have included valid phone details. Singapore immigration did ring one of my girls relatives to confirm. OFW with valid permits to work / stay in phils are OK to use as well.

[Sammon]

I am sure Freebie will respond Samm but since I know him well I can assure you that he very fully understands expectations, obligations, how to keep girls happy etc etc etc.

Let me reassure you on his behalf that he isn't called Freebie Fan for nothing. The girls line up to meet him one after the other. They expect nothing and usually get nothing except some cheap * wear that they can only wear in a secluded place.

He expects and gets everything for free. Hell. I even have to buy the beers when he and I meet in between his sessions LOL. (Aussie humor mate) I remember one celebrity said when asked if he has many girls all over him," Girls are dime a dozen but it costs many many dimes to keep her happy "

[Cool Traveler]

Guys:

I post and make comments on this site. This my first request for some kinda help. I am making a trip down to Manila in March from the US. I need to make a side business trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta. Any dieas, on what is the best flight or cheapest way to do this?

Thanks,

CT

[Bonkers1]

Guys:

I post and make comments on this site. This my first request for some kinda help. I am making a trip down to Manila in March from the US. I need to make a side business trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta. Any dieas, on what is the best flight or cheapest way to do this?

Thanks,

CTI am flying from Manila to Indonesia Bali in April I found the best deal through kayak. I am flying Malasia airlines it may not be the cheepest but it has the best flight times for me. Let me know how you make out.

[Cheapy]

U also may want to check-out Air Asia (out of Clark / north of Manila). Possibly connecting thru KL to Jakarta.

A little bit of a hassle but usually cheap.

Cheapy.


Guys:

I post and make comments on this site. This my first request for some kinda help. I am making a trip down to Manila in March from the US. I need to make a side business trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta. Any dieas, on what is the best flight or cheapest way to do this?

Thanks,

CT

[FreebieFan]

Do not expect " it won't cost anything ".

She expects gifts + money + some more gifts for her family. How to say no to a girl who keeps you happy.

These are girls with generally no job or low pay job and have no money. I would not expect you to say just the airfare and food is her reward.If we can get past Immigration at both ends, believe me, this lady will be VERY happy with me paying for the trip. Her first experience outside Philippines. In 18 months of knowing her, she has once asked for P1500. Thats it. We al lhave different expereinces with girls, and fortunately mine are good. Most of my "girls" are happy with what they are given and they always seem happy for a repeat and very few have their hand out expecting hand outs. Their hands are usually out unzipping me. LOL. Anyways thanks for the help and advice with how to get a gilr on a plane. Its appreciated.

[Mc Don]

Guys:

I post and make comments on this site. This my first request for some kinda help. I am making a trip down to Manila in March from the US. I need to make a side business trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta. Any dieas, on what is the best flight or cheapest way to do this?

Thanks,

CTCEBU PACIFIC. Normal ticket one way around 100USD but there are deals if you book early enough or you lucky when you can book it for around 1000 peso. I have done it few times. Be aware the time is shit you get to Jakarta around midnight so if your plan was a short one day stint it won't work. On the other hand time is perfect if you want to monger for a night there, you get to avoid Jakarta traffic. If you haven't been to Jakarta before book your hotel close to your business, Manila traffic is bad but Jakarta is worse.

[Mc Don]

I am flying from Manila to Indonesia Bali in April I found the best deal through kayak. I am flying Malasia airlines it may not be the cheepest but it has the best flight times for me. Let me know how you make out.Cheapest and easyest way to Bali is via Singapore. Plenty of cheap flights to sing and then on to Bali. KL via Airasia is another cheap option but you need to do it via Clark. Malaysian airlines is expensive. Cebu pacific via Jakarta providing you are willing to stay overnight in Jakarta or chance it for the last flight on the night. I think Lion Air or Batavia Air had a midnight flight at least that was the case when I did it few months ago.

[D Cups]

Guys:

I post and make comments on this site. This my first request for some kinda help. I am making a trip down to Manila in March from the US. I need to make a side business trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta. Any dieas, on what is the best flight or cheapest way to do this?

Thanks,

CTHi CT,

I would take Philippine Airlines to Manila and Air Asia to Jakarta.

[FreebieFan]

He expects and gets everything for free. Hell - I even have to buy the beers when he and I meet in between his sessions LOL. (Aussie humor mate)Thanks for making a smile. Didn't I buy the meat pies? LOL

Same smile just got a little wider when the "virgin" called me to say she's tingling with excitement about our Saturday meeting. Me too baby!

[Manta Ray]

Freebie I didn't get a chance to respond to your earlier posts, I was to busy in AC and Manila at the time. You got plenty of good advice here and I am sure you had it covered anyway. I have brought over on separate occasions two girls from Phils to Sing and they needed to show at least 100 USD per day spending money along with return tickets and accommodation booking in HER name. My girls were grilled on both ends and be aware that Singapore immigration isn't easy at all.

If you intend to make a habit out of flying her over and time permits I strongly suggest you make sure she gets few more stamps in her passport. A day trip or overnight stay in Batam with a return via JB is worth doing. More stamps in the passport less grilling next time.

For those that don't want to send money over for whatever reason ask the girl to borrow it. One of my girls asked on of her relos to borrow the money on her behalf and she managed to get some cash from those 5/6 sharks to make sure she has enough to pass through customs. Obviously I payed for the interest once I meet her in Singapore.

Also if she has relatives in Singapore make sure that they have sent a letter inviting her over and have included valid phone details. Singapore immigration did ring one of my girls relatives to confirm. OFW with valid permits to work / stay in phils are OK to use as well.Last summer I took my Filipina gf with me to Singapore for a fun weekend. At NAIA before the flight she was pulled into a small room and given a bit of a third degree by the immigration folks-only because it was the first time she was using her passport on her first trip abroad. She had a return ticket and I had given her a couple hundred dollars to put in her pocket, so it was no problem and the whole thing took about 10 mins. In fact, the immigration guys seemed fairly laid back about it, as if they were just going through a formality.

At Changi when we went through immigration, the officer did want to see her return ticket, but once he realized that she was with me on a short holiday, he didn't ask to see any funds, and just stamped her passport without a fuss. I imagine, however, it would have been quite different if she was on her own.

Manta Ray

[Love The Ladies]

I'm not quite sure how filipinas consider themselves conservative.

Indian and the Middle East have a lock on the reality of that.

I've had more 3 somes with non pro's that I can recount.

As for my last experience, I"m still in shock.

Ocassionaly I go swimming at one of the hotel pools.

This day it was empty except for 1 filipina woman about age 35.

Chatted with her for a few minutes before she invited me to the Hot Tub.

While she was preparing to walk there, she stood up. Bent over to get her towel and gave me a twat shot to cream over.

Her G string hung so low. UMMMM.

In the hot tub, I was made hard with her oiling legs rubbing my crotch. As soon as it got hard, she undid the G string completely, got my cock out and back rode me for 5 minutes until the pool boy noticed. The pool boy stayed in the area until we both got out of the hot tub.

After getting her phone number, she admitted to living with her Husband and kids, but she needed "ME TIME"

She has never asked for any money and simply gets her kicks from fucking strange men.

How often does something happen in a lifetime?

Wow, what an experience!

[WestCoast1]

I'm not quite sure how filipinas consider themselves conservative.

Indian and the Middle East have a lock on the reality of that.

I've had more 3 somes with non pro's that I can recount.

As for my last experience, I"m still in shock.

Ocassionaly I go swimming at one of the hotel pools.LTL: Are you posting this from a phone? Why all the hard returns? Why does each sentence start a new paragraph? Its hard to read like this. I think Red Kilt posted today in another thread about guys not using the "Preview Report" button before posting. Gents, please preview before posting.


How often does something happen in a lifetime? Wow, what an experience!On this note: Welcome to pinas! Have had a strange happenings in a pool also (several gals at once). Have had gals half my age (complete strangers) follow me out of discos, and while waiting for a taxi on the sidewalk, introduce themselves and ask if they can spend the evening with me. Have a girl who lives to suck dick in taxis at night. Have a gal who keeps bringing other girls over for 3-somes. Have a LB who likes to take pics of me bumpin' uglies with his sister. Its taken many years to get this kind of list of odditites, but jesus these things only happen in one place on earth. Mabuhay!

[WestCoast1]

the following sequence tells a story. maybe not for the squeamish. names changed to protect identities.

i won't bore you with all the details of meeting, but an online chatmate some years ago wanted to meet up when i was in manila. gina. while i hadn't told her in advance i was coming, when she found i was in manila, she wanted to leave the province (family labored on a pig farm) to come see me in manila. while very small-appearing on cam, she is very cute.

i had been chatting her from a café, and she was full of repeated requests to meet, but i was a bit uneasy about it, because she appeared physically small / young on cam, and seemed immature. the next day, thru txt, i agreed. i reminded her that antipolo was a long way out, and that she would have to pay her own way. she asked if i would re-imburse her the bus fare. i said yes. she said that if i didn't like her after meeting, she would not ask me for the bus fare. seemed fair enough to me, although i would still give her the round trip bus fare. she said she would be in the hotel lobby at 3pm. at 3pm as i'm heading downstairs to the lobby, she txts: "can i bring my auntie?" since you are already 2 hours on the bus, and already have auntie with you, there is no stopping that.

five minutes later gina and 3 other women walk into the lobby. she brought her aunt, her mom, and her younger sister. the mom and aunt were older, late 40's, fat. gina herself is 4' 6", about 65lbs. other than her shortness, she is stunning. if she were 5' 6", she would be the most perfectly apportioned woman you've ever seen: nice ass, skinny waist, and real boobage, cute face. her younger sister, carol, is even hotter: she looked just like a (poor) supermodel or actress, including her being tall (for pinay) at 5'-7" height. carol appears to be 22-23-24 in age. i almost had to collect my jaw up from the floor. i was polite, we sat in the lobby a bit and chatted, but i was unsure if i should take them to the room. they were all a bit dirty in their clothes.

after a bit, the aunt, who spoke better english than the rest of them, asked if they could see my room."haha we never been on hotel before." looking at gina, she now appeared to be fairly young. i shouldn't have, but i let them come upstairs to the room. by luck, the hotel had upgraded me from a regular room to a deluxe, a corner room with floor-ceiling windows on the adjoining walls where the corner of the building is. amazing view. separate entry room, a sitting room with couch. a large-screen tv in the bedroom. largest kingsize bed i've ever seen in asia. walk-in closet. bathroom with bathtub, and a phone in the can for calling the front desk while you crap. it was clear from their reaction that they've never been in a hotel. the elevator itself kind of freaked them out. they were in awe of the room: "my god! its bigger our house!" they sat on the bed for a bit, all four of them: "haha. whole family can sleep this bed!" they walked around and checked out the suite.

at this point i wasn't sure how to get rid of them. i couldn't take my eyes off either sister. one was small and cute, the other was g-g-gorgeous. carol kept staring at me, she rarely spoke. it was the "come-hither-big-boy" look. i asked if they wanted to go to robinson's next door and get a coffee or juice? yes they did. once in the mall they wanted juice at a restaurant. mostly they wanted dinner. stupidly i got sucked into that one. the younger sister, carol, kept looking at me in the restaurant, with a wisp of a smile (mona lisa – like) , kind of the way a cat looks at a mouse under its paw. during dinner i asked auntie how old carol was: "she running 17. just graduate high school. she our only one who graduate high school till now." jesus de christo! 16 years old, looking 23, with a face that kept saying throw me on the table and fuck me in front of everyone. after dinner they wanted to go thru the mall. we strolled, they hinted for stuff, i ignored. finally they said they wanted to go in the grocery store. they grabbed a cart. to cut the damage, i handed gina's auntie a p500 note and said i would give them no more money. they spent (no kidding) , p502, and asked me for 2 pesos at the checkout register.

then they asked to come back to the room for a few minutes. i was about to say no, and get rid of them, when auntie said they must get on the bus soon as it was dark. whew! back up to the room, and right away auntie asks if i can help them with their family problem: her brother, gina's dad, had to pawn his motorcycle to pay some gambling debts. they needed p10k. i said no. they asked if i wanted to keep gina while i was in manila."you keep her. long time if you want. one day two day one week two week if you like. even you can travel with her if you like. up to you. if you happy to her then maybe you give her some peso to our family problem. ok?" i told auntie that gina appeared ****."not ****. she adult. she have i-d even." with that, auntie grabbed gina's purse, opened it, and turned it inside out on the bed. out fell a p20 note, an i-d, a pair of panties, and lipstick. i checked the i-d, it showed gina (who said before she was 23) to have just turned 20. auntie said that i could send gina home anytime i no longer wanted her, and i should give her p500 for bus to get home, and i could send any amount for the family problem that i desired."if you not happy my niece you give her bus money only. if you happy to her you give a more. no worry." i hesitated, which was met with: "you no want gina. you want carol? she 16 only but she make you a happy." i was stunned at the offer. again this must have appeared to auntie as hesitation: "ok. you want both girl? you keep both girl. no worry to you."

[WestCoast1]

as my head stopped spinning, i said i would keep gina. the mother grabbed gina's chin and turned gina to face herself. she said something in tagalog, gina nodded 'yes'. that was it. the three ladies walked off, leaving me with gina for as long as i wanted. in the elevator down, auntie asked for p500 for their bus fare and i gave it to her. when gina and i got back to the room, she went to the cr, and i took a quick picture of her i-d, front / back. when she came out of the cr, i asked if she was ok to spending a few nights and she said yes. i said, point-blank: "you know i'm going to fuck you?" yes."all i want?" yes."have you had sex before?" one time only.

to let that set in, we went back to window-shop robinson's for a while, holding hands. i asked her where extra clothes were, since she had only the small purse."only i have this clothes. nothing more. at home i have more panty." ah. that's why they stunk a bit: farm workers with nearly nothing. we left and went to a movie (she'd never seen a theater). when we got back i made her shower the farm stink off.

when she came out of the shower, because she was so shy, gina had her clothes back on. i expected a towel (haha stupid me). i told her to go back in the cr and come out with the towel on this time. she went in the bathroom, didn't close the door, and walked back out 5 seconds later with her clothes still on and a towel wrapped around her. hahaha. still not getting it hun. i took the towel off and told her to take her clothes of."i'm shy to you." i handed the towel back to her and motioned to the cr. she went back in, closed the door, and came out a minute later with: 1) my large, american personal towel (the one i travel with from home) wrapped around her hips and legs; 2) a shower towel wrapped around her waist and midsection, and another shower towel wrapped around her shoulders, arms, and chest. she had taken off some of her clothes, i could see her naked feet and ankles, but she had covered as much skin as a girl could possibly cover with 3 towels. hahaha on me again!

i couldn't help but laugh some. i motioned her over to me and i took from her slowly the 3 towels. she still had her bra and panties on. i told her to take them off. she wriggled and turned away and in every different direction for over a minute taking the bra off, finally getting it off while facing away from me. i turned her around to face me, took the bra from her while she held her arms over her boobs, and said,"let me see." she finally put her arms down and wow what a nearly perfect rack!"b-" cups, not quite "c" cups, but for a girl well under 5' tall, her figure was magnificent, and such a cute face. i motioned to the panties, and i watched her do the same slow wriggle out of them, turning away from me. i turned her to face me and she had a nice bush. one arm was over her boobs, the other hand over her bush. i asked if she ever shaved and she looked at me like i was a martian. i told her to put her arms out at her sides, hands away from her body, ala davinci. magnificent! what a beauty! tempting to call this one the rare 9+, almost a "10".

"can i have my clothes on now?" no hun. hop in the bed while i shower. when i rinsed and came out, she was under the covers, nearly completely hidden, with the karaoke channel on tv. i walked over to the large floor-ceiling window and peered at the ortigas traffic, and told her to join me. the room was dark except the tv, and she came over with an arm covering her boobs and another to her pussy. she was afraid to get close to the window, so i just grabbed her arm and pulled her to my side, putting my arm around her shoulders. no one outside could see us. i asked if she had done a blowjob before."no." but you fucked?"yes. my boyfriend. one time only last year." you know what we're going to do now?"yes. we fawking." yes, and your going to give me a blowjob also."ok. you show to me how. i don't know it."

all of this was turning me on. an almost complete newb. on the bed i showed her how to kneel upright on her knees, while i stood in front of her, and had her hold my cock and stroke it a bit."never touch one before my hand. its a big." i had her smell it, and watched her face. i had her lick it, and watched her face. i took a few minutes to show her everything, taking her time, extra suction, etc. then i layed her down and asked her if she wanted her poosy licked. she just shrugged her shoulders. so i licked her a bit just to wet her, worked my finger in (fairly tight, glad i lubed her up with spit first) a bit. then climbed on top, pulled her knees up to her chest, and slowly guided my tool to her pussy. i spit in my hand to wet my cock-tip, and got in just about to the head. very slowly, as she tightened up, and squished up her face. very slowly. finally she relaxed, i pulled it out, and went back in again, about another half inch. this process went on until i was 3 inches in, several minutes. i asked if she was ok and she nodded yes. i kept up the slow insertion and pull-out for another two minutes until the entire tool was inside.

having worked myself all the way inside of her, she was wincing a bit. this was all fairly new to her. so i started a slow fuck, then after a minute i proceeded to quicken the pace a bit. she never stopped the wincing. i asked if she was ok again and she said yes. after about 5 minutes i pulled out and said,"turn over. doggy." she rolled over onto her tummy and layed there. i had to show her how to put her hips up in the air, get up on her knees, and stay on her elbows. complete newb to the position. once inside her from behind i started slow again, then picked up the pace. i don't think she was enjoying any of it, but that didn't stop me from hammering away. another 5 minutes, i stopped and asked if she was ok, and could she go on."yes. but little only." so i hammered for a few more minutes, then asked her if she wanted to finish fucking, or blowjob. she chose bj. once i was back sitting against the headboard and she was lying right in front of me sucking my cock, i took the time to tell her while she was performing, exactly what felt good."not so deep. suck harder. bit faster hun. yes, like that."

[Stroker Ace88]

As my head stopped spinning, I said I would keep Gina. [SNIP]Duuuude very well written contribution WC! Can't wait for the next chapter I'm hooked! *insert big grin smiley here*

[WestCoast1]

it was delicious. perfect. she kept going at the exact speed, depth, and suction that i like. i think she didn't know enough to vary things. after about 3 minutes i was getting ready to explode. i told her when i came, i wanted her to swallow it. i'm not sure she understood what "cum" meant: as i exploded in her mouth, there was an instant confusion on her part. she went down as far as she could, taking in half my cock, which was at her throat, and she stopped. her eyes got huge for a moment, then closed hard. a blast of wind came out of her mouth, like she had been gut-punched. so hard, it hit my stomach and groin hard. suddenly she choked, then tears started running from her eyes, down her nose, onto me. something was going wrong, like i had not seen before, and i was still in the throws of the spew. she swallowed hard, or tried to, with my cock still in her mouth. i was confused by her reaction, but still in the throws of orgasm. she swallowed again. when my cum was nearly done, i pulled her up by the hair to have a look at her.

she had nearly fainted. i was holding the bulk of her weight in my hand by pulling the hair up on her head. her left eye rolled up in her head, her right eye started drifting to her right. snot was rolling down from her nose, and tears were pouring off her face. shit! she coughed once really hard (another gut-punch it seemed) , and snot and sperm flew out of her nose and mouth, hitting me on the chest and throat. more snot and cum started drooling out of her nose. her left eye was now white-only, it had rolled up into her head. she was barely conscious and had gone completely limp. now a stomach seizure, she coughed again, this time the cough of 'about-to-barf'. shit! i got up off the bed, dragging her by the hair with me, and went to the bathroom. she's so small it was like grabbing a stuffed rag doll. she was having trouble breathing in, and her chest started to spasm. i was confused: was she choking? literally i was dragging her to the bathroom as fast as i could by her hair. once in the cr, i tried to sit her on the toilet, leaning her backwards. i turned around to get the shower water running and there was a smack! noise. she had fallen to the floor, unconscious. damn!

i sat her back on the toilet and held her upright, waiting for the shower to warm. she was drooling from the mouth, and snot and cum continued to fall from both nostrils, both eyes closed. wtf! then she started to wake up. the breathing started to normalize, the chest spasm stopped. her eyes opened, still divergent, but starting to converge again. the tears and drooling stopped from her mouth, but the snot kept running from her nose (thick stuff from the back of the throat). the floor below the toilet was a drool-cum-tears mess. i asked her if she was ok and she nodded yes. i asked her what her name was and she couldn't speak. i put my arm around her waist, stood up and picked her up to step into the shower, with her stuck to my side, and just as i was putting my foot into the shower, she peed all over both of us. great.

she was able to stand in the shower, and after about one minute she had come around and could speak. her legs were wobbly so we got out of the shower (the towels were still on the bed, we had to walk dripping back into the bedroom to get them) , and got into bed. oddly, even though she had just gone thru shock-trauma-hell, she curled right up, putting her arm on my chest and head on my shoulder, and watched tv, and she drifted off a few minutes later (i was sure she would dress, run out, and call the police; yet she just went to sleep!). i was scared shitty, watching tv for an hour, wondering if this could be spun in any good way if there was trouble later (i could think of nothing). finally i went to sleep.

when i woke up in the morning she was getting out of the shower. when she came out of the cr she was again fully dressed, and she started tidying the room. i showered and walked around naked just to see how she would react. it was as if nothing happened 9 hours before. we went for breakfast, then shopped. she saw a skirt in a window and said she never had a dress or skirt. i got her the short skirt and two tops to wear, p900. i couldn't believe how inexpensive the stuff was, especially in a mall. she found a place that sold shoes and flip / flops and looked at about 12 pair. then we looked at shoes and flip / flops at several other stores. finally she decided to go back to the first place, and she chose a pair of flip / flops that cost p60. she also had a nice pair of shoes in her other hand that cost p700, and she held up the cheap-ass flip / flops and the nice shoes, asking which i liked better. i pointed at the nice shoes."no. i like these." and with that, i bought her the flip / flops. jesus.

back in the room we just vegged and watched tv till dinner time. out for jollibee (her fav for the next several days) , then to the mall for another movie. then back to the room. i thought about asking her to go home after last night's bad experience, but let the thought pass. she showered again and came out of the shower with her clothes on. i showered. it was about 9:30, apparently she wanted to spend another night. i told her i wanted to play again and she said,"no blowjob. ok?" sure. she got under the covers and disrobed. i mounted up on her, and not long after she said her "bagina sore." well, if no blowjob, then we're going to fuck. so i continued, turning her every which position. finally i blew in her in doggy. she ran to the shower, came out and snuggled up, said her "bagina sore" again, and went to sleep. for whatever reason, in my mind, i vowed that everytime she said her "bagina sore", i was going to fuck her. the next morning when she mentioned her bagina was sore, i fucked her again. she put up zero struggle. that evening i did it again when she said her bagina was sore. i asked if she would rather blowjob: "no blowjob. fucking." so there i was fucking her bagina sore, morning and night, several nights running. there was little else to do with her other than malls and restaurants. when i asked her in the daytime if there was anything interesting we could do in manila, she had no response.

[WestCoast1]

finally it was time to head to the airport and go home. after increasing her morning bagina-soreness one last time, she showered. 3 evenings and 3 mornings of sex. i put p5000 in her purse. when we got to the airport, standing outside where the taxi dropped us, she asked if i could give her some money for her family. i said yes, i put some in your purse. she freaked and opened the purse and turned it upside down. she yelled "sheet! you give me money! where is my money!" everything fell out: her i-d, lipstick, and the money as the individual p500 bills began rep001tering in the mild breeze. goddam i wish she had not have done that in public. what a low-brow. i got mad and took my luggage to get in the line to go inside. when i got to the end of the line and looked back at her, she was stuffing the last of the spilled money back in her purse. she didn't even bother to pick up the lipstik. she had a shopping bag with her extra clothing. she didn't even look towards me, she just turned and walked away with her purse and bag. she got her money, that was apparently all she cared about. apparently everyone got what they wanted.

i'm not sure how she got out of the arrivals parking lot. she did not attempt to get a taxi. she just walked away the same road the inbound taxis arrive on. i lost sight of her and flew on home.

for several days after i get home, she makes no attempt to chat me in ym, although i said hi to her there. then she started chatting me again. like friends. like we had not spent time together. like none of it had happened. possibly our time together scared her. a week later, out of the blue, she asks for p3000 for her birthday celebration coming saturday. i said no. she got mad, but we continued to chat every day or two online. about 2 weeks after i arrive home, on a friday evening here (noon saturday in phils) , she asked again for the p3000. again i said no. we didn't speak on saturday, but did on sunday. when i log into ym, her avatar has changed to a picture. of her, in a white wedding dress, sitting in the lap of a much older (mid-late 60's) , fat, white man (short silver hair, flat-top military cut) , in a grey tuxedo. she looked so tiny sitting in his lap, like a grandpa and his 6-yr-old granddaughter.

when i said hi to her online, she started talking like everything was normal. why, hun, is that pic of you in your ym? ohhhhhhhh, she said, that's my husband. we got married saturday evening.

whoa! whoa! whoa!

i just spoke to her at noon saturday, the day prior. wtf had happened! she said he came to visit her from the states a week after she left me at naia. they spent a week together in antipolo and got married. how could that be? i had been chatting her during that week! i chatted her on noon the day she got married! she asked for 3000 peso! yes, all of it was true. between spending time with her fiance, she had been chatting me. then she ran off, put on the wedding dress he paid for, and married him.

absof*ckinglutely amazing!

interestingly, the guy (from the states) had flown there, spent a week, married her on a saturday afternoon (a few hours after she asked me for money in ym chat) , and flown out sunday morning. what a quick honeymoon! i was chatting gina just after he left. he promised to start the visa paperwork to bring her to the usa. we stopped chatting at that point. fast-forward 8 or 9 months and i catch her online. she said he started talking to her online less and less, and stopped sending money. he said he'd made a mistake marrying her, and could not tell his family and friends in the states that he'd married so young a girl. he simply stopped communicating with her. several months later she left an offline msg asking for money. shame, huh?

one might think its all a money-game to filipinas. or karma.

tempting. i know what you're thinking. tempting to ask her: 'does your husband like his cock sucked? '

[Satyr23]

Hey everyone. Finally going to make it to The Philippines! I'm flying in and out of Manila, so will surely spend some time there. After blowing way too much on my last trip in Brazil, I'm trying to focus on bringing down the cost of these excursions. My favorite low cost destination so far is Soi Six in Pattaya. What does Manila have that is comparable in terms of cost to Soi Six. Is there an area with cheaper bars, or maybe some isolated bars I haven't read about? Any advice would be great. Thanks!

[Mr Enternational]

Hey everyone. Finally going to make it to The Philippines! I'm flying in and out of Manila, so will surely spend some time there. After blowing way too much on my last trip in Brazil, I'm trying to focus on bringing down the cost of these excursions. My favorite low cost destination so far is Soi Six in Pattaya. What does Manila have that is comparable in terms of cost to Soi Six. Is there an area with cheaper bars, or maybe some isolated bars I haven't read about? Any advice would be great. Thanks!You won't have to worry about prices. PI is way cheaper than Brazil is at the moment, for accommodations and chicks. Unless you decided to go to EDSA complex where you would have to come off at least $100 for LT (still doesn't compare to the at least $200 you would have to come off for ST in a place like 4X4). When I was in Manila last week I went to Manila Bay Cafe. I took a GFE to the hotel for 1500P (US$35) for all night. I usually only offer 1000P. There really is not a place like Soi 6 in Manila or AC. In the former place the girls sit outside the bar. In the latter places only the hostess is outside to try to get you to come inside. And I don't recall any short time rooms at any of the Philippine venues as they have upstairs at the Soi 6 bars.

*As El Ted just said in the AC section your best bet would be Blow Row in AC, but still no comparison to Soi 6.

[Satyr23]

You won't have to worry about prices. PI is way cheaper than Brazil is at the moment, for accommodations and chicks. Unless you decided to go to EDSA complex where you would have to come off at least $100 for LT (still doesn't compare to the at least $200 you would have to come off for ST in a place like 4X4). When I was in Manila last week I went to Manila Bay Cafe. I took a GFE to the hotel for 1500P (US$35) for all night. I usually only offer 1000P. There really is not a place like Soi 6 in Manila or AC. In the former place the girls sit outside the bar. In the latter places only the hostess is outside to try to get you to come inside. And I don't recall any short time rooms at any of the Philippine venues as they have upstairs at the Soi 6 bars.

*As El Ted just said in the AC section your best bet would be Blow Row in AC, but still no comparison to Soi 6.Excellent! $35 for LT is just fine. Thanks for the info!

[X Man]

Way too strange to be fiction! I wonder what the conversation was when she got back home."How was your weekend dear?"

I guess the moral of the story is. Don't blow the load when you are deep throating a gal.

WC, the younger one is proabaly old enough by now. I'm just sayin'.


Finally it was time to head to the airport and go home. After increasing her morning bagina-soreness one last time, she showered. 3 evenings and 3 mornings of sex. I put p5000 in her purse.

SNIP.

Tempting. I know what you're thinking. Tempting to ask her: 'Does your husband like his cock sucked? '

[Jambo]

her avatar has changed to a picture. Of her, in a white wedding dress, sitting in the lap of a much older (mid-late 60's) , fat, white man (short silver hair, flat-top military cut) , in a grey tuxedo.So you know now they have that site that can search and find a pic on other sites. Once they get the facial recognition working and available to the public, we can start having a little fun with them!

[Hart David]

Finally it was time to head to the airport and go home. After increasing her morning bagina-soreness one last time, she showered. 3 evenings and 3 mornings of sex. I put p5000 in her purse. When we got to the airport, standing outside where the taxi dropped us, she asked if I could give her some money for her family...Moral of the story, Find them, f-ck them, Forget them. I stick to that since 1990 cheers.

David alias Colomba

[Devils 1]

Tempting. I know what you're thinking. Tempting to ask her: 'Does your husband like his cock sucked? 'Definitely the funniest story I have ever heard!

[FlyboyBill]

Someone on this site said buying a cellphone when you arrive is better than renting, or bringing one from states. Are there cellphones stores in the Manila airport, or what would be a better bet?

Thanks GREAT story Westcoast1!

[Mr Enternational]

Someone on this site said buying a cellphone when you arrive is better than renting, or bringing one from states. Are there cellphones stores in the Manila airport, or what would be a better bet?!Bring your own unlocked cell phone. Then when you get here buy a SIM card from Sun. DO NOT get Smart. I have had some serious issues with them since I arrived. I added a load of 200 piso initially. I called 1 person a couple of times and the load was gone. From there I added 500 through etopuponline. In over 24 hours it didn't show on my phone so I ended up going to purchase another 300 piso load from the store and I wrote etopuponline telling them to cancel the 500 because it never showed up and I was preparing to leave PI. It had to be at least 30 hours before they emailed me back, but right before that the 500 piso load showed up in my phone. So yesterday I'm sitting with a fresh 500 piso load and only have 24 more hours to be in the Philippines. I probably sent 10 text messages after that to a girl at the massage shop. Then I took a girl last night and told her that I was leaving the next day and asked her how can I transfer my credits to her. I looked at my balance and it said 2 piso. WTF?

[Stroker Ace88]

Bring your own unlocked cell phone. Then when you get here buy a SIM card from Sun. DO NOT get Smart. I have had some serious issues with them since I arrived. I added a load of 200 piso initially. I called 1 person a couple of times and the load was gone. From there I added 500 through etopuponline. In over 24 hours it didn't show on my phone so I ended up going to purchase another 300 piso load from the store and I wrote etopuponline telling them to cancel the 500 because it never showed up and I was preparing to leave PI. It had to be at least 30 hours before they emailed me back, but right before that the 500 piso load showed up in my phone. So yesterday I'm sitting with a fresh 500 piso load and only have 24 more hours to be in the Philippines. I probably sent 10 text messages after that to a girl at the massage shop. Then I took a girl last night and told her that I was leaving the next day and asked her how can I transfer my credits to her. I looked at my balance and it said 2 piso. WTF?Just because you chose to use an online autoload service that charges HUGE markups, how is that your providers fault? The website you used has a MINIMUM $20USD charge to load, so your 200p load cost you 860p (20USDx43p). I have never used the online topup service you used, and I can't say for sure but I assume they also charge a hefty user fee each time you text or call, over and above the local Smart rates. That maybe explains why your load was gone. That or one of the girls you spent time with transfered your load to her phone.

Philippine text rates are very low, but calling rates in the Philippines are more expensive and will eat your load up fast, especially so if you are a Smart user and you call someone who is an off system user such as Globe or Sun. Personally it's so easy to walk into any cell phone shop and get a card load (100p-500p) and you often get free text messages with each card load used. I like to buy a few card loads and put them in my wallet at the start of a trip and when my BAL gets low just load a fresh 100p. No need to ever use rip-off online autoloads. But hey bro it's your $, you can spend it anyway you like.

Also when you bought your Smart SIM you should have received 30 free intra-system texts included.

[Stroker Ace88]

Someone on this site said buying a cellphone when you arrive is better than renting, or bringing one from states. Are there cellphones stores in the Manila airport, or what would be a better bet?No rental cellphones that I know about. Buy one in the Philippines or bring one with you from home are your two options. No stores selling cell phones at the airport.

Personally I would buy one in Manila. A good cell phone can be bought in any local mall for 2000p or so. Even cheaper if you don't mind buying a lower quality China clone phone that doesn't have all the latest features.

I would look at buying a middle of the road Nokia brand model. They are dependable and have good text functions and that's all you really need in the Philippines. Plus they have longer battery life than the clones and the girls will not want to steal them as much as an Iphone.

A few questions to ask the staff in the store when you buy a phone in the Philippines,

-Is the Phone brand new and never used? (Original Box)

-Is it a China phone or is it the original?

-Does it include a charger?

-Single SIM or Dual SIM?

When buying a SIM card ask how many free texts are included, and get the staff at the store to set it all up for you. Really easy to walk into a store there and walk out with a fully functioning phone.

[Mr Enternational]

Just because you chose to use an online autoload service that charges HUGE markups, how is that your providers fault? The website you used has a MINIMUM $20USD charge to load, so your 200p load cost you 860p (20USDx43p).The service does not charge anything. The minimum is only US$4.50. The first 200 I got at 7/11 when I bought my SIM. The 500 I did online (US$12). And the next 300 I bought at Ayala Mall. My pinay friend in Thailand also told me that Smart always rips people off the same way. I asked Frenzy how was it that the girls seem to be able to text endlessly but mine always runs out quick. He told me that most of the girls have Sun. They have unlimited text plan. No one has used my phone. It has a lock feature on it. I did receive one of those text transfer credit requests while I was in Cebu from some girl I had not even met in person, but of course I declined that.

Only fixed amounts allowed:

4.5, 7, 12, 24 USD.

Fee: 0 USD.

1 USD = 45.4545 PHP.

https://www.etopuponline.com/beta/

[Strickjb]

Someone on this site said buying a cellphone when you arrive is better than renting, or bringing one from states. Are there cellphones stores in the Manila airport, or what would be a better bet?

Thanks GREAT story Westcoast1!Just bring a quad-band GSM phone. Nokia would be good. Buy a SIM card (cheap) on arrival. Then enjoy!

[WestCoast1]

The service does not charge anything. The minimum is only US$4. 50. The first 200 I got at 7/11 when I bought my SIM. The 500 I did online (US$12). And the next 300 I bought at Ayala Mall. My pinay friend in Thailand also told me that Smart always rips people off the same way. I asked Frenzy how was it that the girls seem to be able to text endlessly but mine always runs out quick. He told me that most of the girls have Sun. They have unlimited text plan. No one has used my phone. It has a lock feature on it. I did receive one of those text transfer credit requests while I was in Cebu from some girl I had not even met in person, but of course I declined that.

Only fixed amounts allowed:

4. 5,7. 12, 24 USD.

Fee: 0 USD.

1 USD = 45. 4545 PHP.

https://www.etopuponline.com/beta/I've always used Smart. Never been a problem. Never lost a peso. I also load from different sources, including online, and I sometimes 'pasaload' to others.

[JPF]

I used Globe last trip and Smart this trip. No problems with either carrier.

The cost issue may be with making phonecalls. They text like crazy here for a reason: texts are cheap, phonecalls are expensive.

[Red Kilt]

. Personally I would buy one in Manila. A good cell phone can be bought in any local mall for 2000p or so. Even cheaper if you don't mind buying a lower quality China clone phone that doesn't have all the latest features.

I would look at buying a middle of the road Nokia brand model. They are dependable and have good text functions and that's all you really need in the Philippines. Plus they have longer battery life than the clones and the girls will not want to steal them as much as an Iphone.You can buy a brand new Nokia 1280 (bottom of the range) for 888 php in any Nokia store or in most cell phone shop.

Buy a new SIM (around 60 php) and a 300 php load and you are good to go.

No need to worry about any fancy features. These little phones are fantastic for texting and calling, and that is surely all that you want. Nice and small and fits easily into any pocket.
I find the battery lasts for 2 days at least if you follow the instructions and let it run right down dead after you buy it and then charge it fully after that.

[FreebieFan]

in test cricket, for a player to score 100 runs before lunch, this is called a remarkable feat, and one that very few achieve. i was thinking recently that i had achieved the sexual equivalent of this when i deflowered a cutie before 10am!

read on.

said lady and i had been chatting for past 6-7 weeks, had a few phone calls and she had indicated it was time for the hymen to go. she had told me she was 19, but that subsequently got changed to 18. chats were fun and as we got closer to meeting day, i could tell she was nervous but still determined to go thru with it.

my flight arrived at 4am (yes 4am!) headed to my place and on way, sent virgin a text. she said she was getting prepared, having breakfast and was heading my way from 5am, as she was in a town outside manila. i had 2 hours sleep then headed to meet her at 7am.

she was cute, young and super shy. wouldn't look at me in my car. started looking a bit after some coffee and generally got warmer. in my place i suggested that whilst she looked nice in her sunday best, a long t shirt i had got for her would be better. she agreed. she popped it on, then came sat on my knee. she had told me she knew the principles of sex but had never done anything not even been kissed. so we got to work on that.

after 15 minutes we moved to the bed. laid her on her back started with kissing her legs etc, pulled up shirt, kissed her back, undid the bra, then rolled her over. in 5 minutes the panties, both pairs were off. she's squeezing her eyes shut at this point, so i told her a joke as i told it, she laughed and at that point i slipped half way in her virgin puss. after that was faily easy and that was that. we reviewed, showered then came back to the bed for a proper session, which included her first bj.

then she had her first vibrator, had her first play of anal (digits only) and then first pics session, inlcuding vids. she was open for all.

she was very happy with the bra set, bikini and other things i had got for her but she couldn't take it home as she had nowhere to hide it in case mum checked her closet. anyways she left, after 6 hours and i rested for an hour.

then out to meet a girl i had met on a previous trip. 19, who had given me the best bj i had in my life, that i fortunately recorded. 19 with a very happy smile. she meets me and its like a monkey on a tree, she wraps herself around me and won't let go. we go have some drinks and food, then back to my place for dressing up photos etc. i was a bit worn out from the virgin (4 rounds!) so didn't give her my best efforts but she went to bed wrapped around me, monkey style and she woke me up with her hand on my groin so it was all good.

next day did some work, then headed to alabang to meet a girl who had contacted me on tagged. she kept telling me how much she wanted to meet me blah blah blah. she had a cute smile, nice well developed rack, and was also 19. we get to my place and it was all very sop except that she wouldn't kiss. said she could only kiss with a real bf. she was happy with the clothes that i had allocated for the virgin, and p1000 for travelling back to cavite. probably i wouldn't repeat with her, even tho she promised we could kiss next time.

the was out to meet a lovergirl who i've known for past 2 years and is blessed with a fabulous rack on a slim body. sadly she was an hour late and i showed my displeasure which sent her quiet. we go for a drink and i gave her a birthday card which sent her into flooods of tears. turns out its the second birthday card the girl has ever had in her life. she's 25.

her mum hadn't acknowledged her birthday in any way in past 10 years even tho her mum from basilan was quick to say " send more money, we need more rice etc" sad. anyways we got to kissing but she wasnt in a mood for pics which was a shame as i had some nice sexy clothes for her. we had sex but it wasnt as good as usual and i took her home at 3am as she was starting work at 6am.

so monday morning. and it was the virgin who had inveigled her way back into my schedule.

clearly she had the taste and wanted more. who better to give it to her than me!

now she's not shy and within 5 minutes thru the door we are naked and playing. was lots of fun. she's teling me she couldn't concentrate in church the previous day as she's thinking thinking and smiling at all the things we had done lol.

she had to leave at lunch as i had work meetings.

after they were over i was due to meet ms 25 aka ms rep001terbrains. she says " ill text you when i'm near" 10 minutes later she's texting me saying " where are you i'm here " we get to the room and she ha a nice rack but not much by way of brain. we had a nice session and she gave me nice massage. gave her some clothes and later she texts me back saying "my friend says the clothes you have given make me look like a **** ". lol. do they really?

from there rested then took flight back to taipei. so that was it. 5 ladies in 64 hours. 2 repeaters and 3 new ones including the now ex virgin. a reasonable weekend, even for freebie.

[FreebieFan]

We came close, oh so close.

Some helpful souls here ha volunteered lots of useful info about getting a gal out of Phils. Mine tried to leave today. Showed all her documentation and the guy said yes everything was in order.

Then he asked if she had a photo of us together!

She had plenty on her pc but they werent exactly for public consumption. Me on top of her, her on top of me, in the kitchen, on the dining table etc. But not a sweetie sweeet one of the two of us. And in this day and age who carries "photos".

Anyways the guy said if she had a photo of us together, she could have gotton on her flight.

If anyone has read the recent report of my active weekend, you will sumise I'm still shagged out so whilst her not coming on this trip has cost me P6000 it also means I get to recover from my shagathon.

And as I have a 25 year old pinay waiting for me on Sunday, I'm not exactly broken hearted.

So, if you are taking your sweetie out of Phils, get photos developed. Or do as I've done in the past, and take Thais and Indonesians. Same fun factor with no hassle.

[Stroker Ace88]

The service does not charge anything. The minimum is only US$4. 50. The first 200 I got at 7/11 when I bought my SIM. The 500 I did online (US$12). And the next 300 I bought at Ayala Mall. My pinay friend in Thailand also told me that Smart always rips people off the same way. I asked Frenzy how was it that the girls seem to be able to text endlessly but mine always runs out quick. He told me that most of the girls have Sun. They have unlimited text plan. No one has used my phone. It has a lock feature on it. I did receive one of those text transfer credit requests while I was in Cebu from some girl I had not even met in person, but of course I declined that.

Only fixed amounts allowed:

4. 5,7. 12, 24 USD.

Fee: 0 USD.

1 USD = 45. 4545 PHP.

https://www.etopuponline.com/beta/Mr. E,

Ahh ok you locked your phone scratch any girl transfering the load. Good idea. Yes most providers have 24hr unlimited text plans for a one-time fee. Works great if all your contacts use the same provider.

From etopuponline's website under the FAQ Section,

Q. What are the minimum and maximum amounts I can eTopUp a phone with?

The minimum per transaction is US$20 and the maximum is US$ 100. For certain countries, the maximum limit is US$75. Also, you cannot perform more than 10 transactions in a calendar month.

Like I stated before I have never used there service, so maybe you found a way to load smaller USD amounts to your phone I was just quoting directly from there website.

https://www.etopuponline.com/beta/faq

As to the USD exchange rate, you are wrong it is not 45p-1USD, it's now LESS than 43p-1USD. (42. 8548 to be exact). The rate has been fluctuating between 44p-42p per 1USD for months now. At the time I posted it was 43p-1USD so that's the exchange rate I quoted.

http://www.oanda.com/currency/converter/

http://themoneyconverter.com/USD/PHP.aspx

[X Man]

I've been using a 1000peso Nokio for the past two years. Since I travel in Philippines two or three times a year, I keep using the same SIM, and I buy a phone card before I leave. Then as soon as I arrive the next time, I load the phone and kill time in the taxi by sending msg.

I'm thinking of getting a phone with two SIM slots since I sometimes get gals who say something like,"I can't text you because I'm using SUN". At first I was confused. Are the two systems incompatible? Of course the real reason is they have some sort of free text set up with one company and can't be bothered to spend a few pesos on texting someone using a different company's SIM. Penny wise, pound foolish?

I've quoted SA88 here because it is so true that they will walk you thru the whole process and set things up for you. Most malls have several shops and often they have one area where there are numerous kiosks style "shops". They are usually staffed by females, and they are often competing to get you over to their kiosk. So, one variable you can consider is find the kiosk with a lass that appeals to you. If she helps you set up, get her to text you. Or test the phone by texting her. You might do this in a surreptitious way, not to try to fool anyone, but just to help her save face with her colleagues, or possibly her boss. Then later you can text her to thank her and maybe offer to buy her lunch because of her kindness. But more likely than not, as you are typing your message, you will get your first ding. I wonder who might be texting?

So, to add to what SA88 wrote, you can walk out with a fully-functioning phone, and one contact. Oh, I love the P'ppines.


SNIP.

-Single SIM or Dual SIM?

When buying a SIM card ask how many free texts are included, and get the staff at the store to set it all up for you. Really easy to walk into a store there and walk out with a fully functioning phone.

[Mr Enternational]

Q. What are the minimum and maximum amounts I can eTopUp a phone with?

The minimum per transaction is US$20 and the maximum is US$ 100. For certain countries, the maximum limit is US$75. Also, you cannot perform more than 10 transactions in a calendar month.

Like I stated before I have never used there service, so maybe you found a way to load smaller USD amounts to your phone I was just quoting directly from there website.

https://www.etopuponline.com/beta/faqI have been using their service for at least 3 years in various countries around the world. I have not found any way to do anything. I just follow the directions on the page. No extra charges or anything. If there is a minimum other that the one it displays when you select the country and carrier then I am not aware of it. And neither is my paypal:

Mar 2, 2012 Payment To MoreMagic Solutions Inc Completed . -$12. 00 USD

Business Name: MoreMagic Solutions Inc (The recipient of this payment is Verified)

Email: support@etopuponline.com

Total amount: -$12. 00 USD.

With each carrier in each country it lists the payment amounts accepted as I did copy and paste in the previous post, but maybe you can not see it on the site if you are not registered.


As to the USD exchange rate, you are wrong it is not 45p-1USD, it's now LESS than 43p-1USD. (42. 8548 to be exact). The rate has been fluctuating between 44p-42p per 1USD for months now. At the time I posted it was 43p-1USD so that's the exchange rate I quoted.It is not me who is wrong on the exchange rate. Etopuponline lists 45p-1USD for the Philippines on their website. I copied and pasted that directly. If they are giving me 45 to the dollar you think I am going to argue and say they should only be giving me 43? You already admitted that you have never used the service, yet you know everything about it and how they have HUGE markups. If you insist on being right about this one then go ahead and be my guest. But I am writing from experience and proof of my experience and not mere speculation.

[FreebieFan]

Was in Manial airport, put my bag through the xray and the guy asks me about my bag.

He says Sir, do you have golf balls?

I say no, but I have a sex toy thats shaped like a few golf balls stuck together.

He smiles and says " ah one of those".

I ask him if he wants to see. He ssmiles again and says " no thanks, I hope she enjoyed it " and returned to his work.

Finally a government employee with a sense of humour.

Curiously he didn't remark about the other 3 vibrators that we also in the bag LOL.

[Wjmpsr]

I found myself alone in Manila this week. Two nights ago I went to Manila Bay Cafe, I have been there before on two other trips. This was the first time I walked alone. I was to tired to pay for a girl, one gave me her number written on a napkin. While walking home to my hotel, the Best Western La Corona, located a few blocks from MBC. A street kid, about 15, took and interest to some paper in my shirt pocket. (The aforementioned telephone number written on a napkin) ' he swooped in and snatched it.

I caught him by the arm and grabbed him by the neck, he was not very strong. I yelled at him, the next thing I knew a friend of his bashed me in the back of the head with a chunk of concrete about the size of a softball.

I took a swing at him and must have grazed his eyeball as he seemed quite upset.

He picked up his rock and planned for further attack. At this point a group of their street companions showed to provide them with support. I decided to turn tail and run.

Subsequent to this situation, I have talked with a few locals who told me the kids have been preying on customers of the 711. I have heard several accounts of similar attacks.

[FreebieFan]

As per trip report, arrived in Manila at 4am and had 2 hours sleep. Woke up and as per trip report was happy to see replies from the virgin who is no more.

But what was weird was to see 2 texts from ladies who had no idea I was in Philippines asking " Hi Freebie, are you here now ".

I haven't met either girl, and don't intend to.

One is an 18 year old virgin studying in Leyte, other is 29 and works in SM in Sucat.

I hadn't been in Manila for 12 weeks.

They must just endlessly send messages hoping that one day they get a reply. This is the modern day equivalent of the message in a bottle.

[Stroker Ace88]

[SNIP]With each carrier in each country it lists the payment amounts accepted as I did copy and paste in the previous post, but maybe you can not see it on the site if you are not registered.

It is not me who is wrong on the exchange rate. Etopuponline lists 45p-1USD for the Philippines on their website. I copied and pasted that directly. If they are giving me 45 to the dollar you think I am going to argue and say they should only be giving me 43? You already admitted that you have never used the service, yet you know everything about it and how they have HUGE markups. If you insist on being right about this one then go ahead and be my guest. But I am writing from experience and proof of my experience and not mere speculation.OK thanks for the explanation. Like I stated I have never used them before, I was only quoting from there website and if they charge you less then $20USD per transaction that's a better deal.

As to the Forex exchange rate, anyone who gives you 45p-1USD is giving you a great rate and I would be happy to take that rate all day long. I thought you were quoting the posted International Forex exchange rate being at 45p-1USD, that was my correction, because it has been months since the rate was 45p.

[Sammon]

I've been using a 1000peso Nokio for the past two years. Since I travel in Philippines two or three times a year, I keep using the same SIM, and I buy a phone card before I leave. Then as soon as I arrive the next time, I load the phone and kill time in the taxi by sending msg.

I'm thinking of getting a phone with two SIM slots since I sometimes get gals who say something like,"I can't text you because I'm using SUN". At first I was confused. Are the two systems incompatible? Of course the real reason is they have some sort of free text set up with one company and can't be bothered to spend a few pesos on texting someone using a different company's SIM. Penny wise, pound foolish?

I've quoted SA88 here because it is so true that they will walk you thru the whole process and set things up for you. Most malls have several shops and often they have one area where there are numerous kiosks style "shops". They are usually staffed by females, and they are often competing to get you over to their kiosk. So, one variable you can consider is find the kiosk with a lass that appeals to you. If she helps you set up, get her to text you. Or test the phone by texting her. You might do this in a surreptitious way, not to try to fool anyone, but just to help her save face with her colleagues, or possibly her boss. Then later you can text her to thank her and maybe offer to buy her lunch because of her kindness. But more likely than not, as you are typing your message, you will get your first ding. I wonder who might be texting?

So, to add to what SA88 wrote, you can walk out with a fully-functioning phone, and one contact. Oh, I love the P'ppines.I have had problems keeping the same sim card. I used to make 4 visits a year. Sometimes it works and sometimes does not. When asked the store girl which sells sim, she told me it is her experience that sim cards go bad even if it is used continuosly. She does not know the answer. She believes companies want people to change sim card to make more money.

Same things happen in China, HK and Thailand too.

[Run Mann]

I found myself alone in Manila this week. Two nights ago I went to Manila Bay Cafe, I have been there before on two other trips. This was the first time I walked alone. I was to tired to pay for a girl, one gave me her number written on a napkin. While walking home to my hotel, the Best Western La Corona, located a few blocks from MBC. A street kid, about 15, took and interest to some paper in my shirt pocket. (The aforementioned telephone number written on a napkin) ' he swooped in and snatched it.

I caught him by the arm and grabbed him by the neck, he was not very strong. I yelled at him, the next thing I knew a friend of his bashed me in the back of the head with a chunk of concrete about the size of a softball.

I took a swing at him and must have grazed his eyeball as he seemed quite upset.

He picked up his rock and planned for further attack. At this point a group of their street companions showed to provide them with support. I decided to turn tail and run.

Subsequent to this situation, I have talked with a few locals who told me the kids have been preying on customers of the 711. I have heard several accounts of similar attacks.I'm sure this won't happen to you again as you'll know what to do but was it just the napkin with the phone number he snatched?

[FreebieFan]

I have had problems keeping the same sim card. I used to make 4 visits a year. Sometimes it works and sometimes does not. When asked the store girl which sells sim, she told me it is her experience that sim cards go bad even if it is used continuosly. She does not know the answer. She believes companies want people to change sim card to make more money.

Same things happen in China, HK and Thailand too.Different expereince here. I've had my Manila SIM card since 2003. Works every time, and I visit 6-8 times a year. Now they changed the law, the load doesn't expire after 14 days so usually I still have load left on my card as soon as I arrive.

[Red Kilt]

I have had problems keeping the same sim card. I used to make 4 visits a year. Sometimes it works and sometimes does not. When asked the store girl which sells sim, she told me it is her experience that sim cards go bad even if it is used continuosly. She does not know the answer. .I am not questioning your experience Samm but I can quote my own experience.

I have lived here for 15 years; I have used a Globe and a Smart SIM and I have NEVER had any problems with either of them.

Globe is a post-paid account (for business) and Smart is a pre-paid account that I load with 300 php every 2 weeks or so.

I have been out of country for various periods like 5 and 6 months during that time and on each occasion the Smart remained "alive" and never expired on me.

I don't understand why people have these problems with SIMs crashing etc. I am not saying it doesn't happen. I am merely saying that in 15 years it has NEVER happened to me.

I use the "text all you can" options with Smart that costs 25 php per 24 hour period and you can text as often as you like which explains why you will get endless texts from girls because they are using this option.

You can also have a certain number of free calls too by adding an * or sometimes a # and then a specific code to the front of the number. Lots of different options available and they change frequently too so rather than give the options here it is better to go to Google and type "Smart unlitext and call" to read the latest options available (same for Globe. Type "Globe unlitext and call).

Note that calls on a pre-paid SIM are VERY expensive and just a few short calls that are not on any plan will quickly use up a few hundred pesos.

[Wjmpsr]

I'm sure this won't happen to you again as you'll know what to do but was it just the napkin with the phone number he snatched?Yes all he got was a napkin, so I had some comic relief at least.

[Mr Hawaii]

Someone on this site said buying a cellphone when you arrive is better than renting, or bringing one from states. Are there cellphones stores in the Manila airport, or what would be a better bet?

Thanks GREAT story Westcoast1!Leave your "good" cell phone home is USA (or whatever country). When you land in Manila, don't buy a phone at the airport. Go to your hotel, then go to the nearest mall and buy one there. Mid priced Nokia with Smart card has always worked well for me. Yes, you can call back to the USA (or other country) with no problem. Take the time to have your friendly phone saleswoman show you the features and how to call the USA. If she does a good job, offer lunch / dinner. Make this your "Philippines phone", and take it home with you. If you don't use the SIM for 60 or 90 days the card will expire, but so what. Just buy another when you return.

[Red Kilt]

Leave your "good" cell phone home is USA (or whatever country). When you land in Manila, don't buy a phone at the airport. Go to your hotel, then go to the nearest mall and buy one there. Mid priced Nokia with Smart card has always worked well for me. Yes, you can call back to the USA (or other country) with no problem. Take the time to have your friendly phone saleswoman show you the features and how to call the USA. If she does a good job, offer lunch / dinner. Make this your "Philippines phone", and take it home with you. If you don't use the SIM for 60 or 90 days the card will expire, but so what. Just buy another when you return.Mr Hawaii if you read the posts between your post (8714) and the one you are responding to (8692) you would have seen many answers repeating exactly what you said.

No wonder some of us guys get irritated by people who don't RTFF before they post. Oh well. Must be Friday. That's why my fuse is short.

[AfAsia]

I caught him by the arm and grabbed him by the neck, he was not very strong. I yelled at him, the next thing I knew a friend of his bashed me in the back of the head with a chunk of concrete about the size of a softball.

I took a swing at him and must have grazed his eyeball as he seemed quite upset.

He picked up his rock and planned for further attack. At this point a group of their street companions showed to provide them with support. I decided to turn tail and run.You got off lightly, consider yourself fortunate. You could have been seriously injured, even if it were your wallet, really bad move to have touched the kid. A horde of locals would kick the life out of you.

[Buko Max]

Just bring a quad-band GSM phone. Nokia would be good. Buy a SIM card (cheap) on arrival. Then enjoy!Have to agree that if you don't want to waste any time and want to start texting as soon as you get your feet on the ground, bring an unlocked phone from home. You can purchase just about any model you want on Ebay. SIM cards are available in the arrivals hall.

[Andrew1001]

Hi everyone,

I don't post here very often (I'm pretty much a lurker) but one of my friends in Manila is looking to hook up with a guy (or even two guys at once) next week (Wed-Fri during the daytime). She is a graphic design student 19 years old, a bit chubby but VERY cute. Nice big rack. She is really sexually adventurous, which is why she asked me to do this "shout-out". So anyway, if anyone is interested, drop me a PM and I can put you in touch with her. Please also provide a pic, and she will send you a pic herself or go on cam. The only requirements are that you are hygienic, clean, white, slim or chubby (not fat) and not older than 40.

She does NOT want money for this. She is just very curious. She can't host, so you would have to take care of that.

[Gangles]

Be aware, D Cups is at large in Manila, in the P Burgos area.

I had the pleasure of hooking up with him last night, in Papillon. Within minutes, he was feeling the tits of a well endowed bar girl. He doesn't care if they are chubby, or even plump, as long as the jugs are well endowed.

As we worked from bar to bar, his modus operandi was the same, the bigger the better. Sometimes more than one at a time.

By the time we got to High Heels, he found himself compelled to accept the offer of some special attentions to relieve him of his essential bodily fluids, so he followed another well endowed lady to the rear of the premises. About 20 mins later, reappeared with his knees a bit wobbly, and a contented smile on his face. Apparently said damsel was expert at the arts of extracting said bodily fluids in a relatively short period of time. While relieving him of 2500 pesos.

Last time I got that service at High Heels, there was no charge, just drinks for the girl. Which probably came to the same amount. But mine was done in the bar, in the corner next to the DJ / Cashier.

We then moved on to Jools, just in time to catch then floor show. We sat right at the front, so he was able to chat up the dancers while they were performing. What a great show. We then retired to the middle of the place, and soon after, two of the dancers appeared, very intent on relieving him of whatever they could.

At this juncture, I departed to return to the arms of my damsel Miss J, who had earlier declared that she wanted to swallow my sperm. And promptly did so. Hence my lack of interest in most of the girls available through our travails. Except for Miss C, who is a drop dead gorgeous 19 year old, just sold her hymen a few days before. And didn't enjoy the experience. So now we are texting back and forth, but I am sure that some smart guy will have snatched her from the bar long before I can get back there.

Such is life.

G

[Key Master]

I have had problems keeping the same sim card. I used to make 4 visits a year. Sometimes it works and sometimes does not. When asked the store girl which sells sim, she told me it is her experience that sim cards go bad even if it is used continuosly. She does not know the answer. She believes companies want people to change sim card to make more money.

Same things happen in China, HK and Thailand too.I also don't have problems reusing my Smart sim after being gone for six months or less. I know in Thailand before at least, the sim cards expire pretty quickly. As others are saying, they don't have a problem using their sim cards again. I'm going to say something and you may take offense that I'm saying this but please don't. Are you assuming that you had so much load left on the phone that when you come back it should still be on the sim and therefore be able to make texts and calls? Because if you are, that is not necessarily the case. The load will expire at a preset time but the sim card can still be good, but you have to reload the sim card. It will still show a signal, but you have to reload it. Some loads last longer than others. If say, I get a 200 pesos load card at the store for Smart, it says on the voice confirmation on the load that it's good until maybe a month away or so, it gives a date. A 500 pesos load lasts way longer date wise than a 200 pesos load card, maybe up to 6 months long. But if you load another small 100 pesos in it after the fact, I don't know if that expiration date on the 500 pesos load is changed or not. I do not know about those electronic loads though. I'm just speaking in regards to my experience with Smart sims.

I do want to mention that with my last visit in February, I had real tough times using Smart on the weekends at night. It was like the network was overloaded and I couldn't sent texts or call anyone, nor receive them for very long periods. I had to reboot my phone sometimes to get it to work again or wait a couple hours before it got back on track. This happened during the weekend nights for like 3 straight weekends. I had to buy a Globe sim to get in contact with someone I was supposed to meet at a certain time. I know other people around me were having similar problems with their Smart sims also and at the same time some were not. It was very strange.

[Run Mann]

Yes all he got was a napkin,And you got a head bashing, good trade-off?

[Cunning Stunt]

. and not older than 40.Imagine that would rule out 90% of the guys on this forum!

[Stroker Ace88]

Hi everyone,

I don't post here very often (I'm pretty much a lurker) but one of my friends in Manila is looking to hook up with a guy (or even two guys at once) next week (Wed-Fri during the daytime). She is a graphic design student 19 years old, a bit chubby but VERY cute. Nice big rack. She is really sexually adventurous, which is why she asked me to do this "shout-out". So anyway, if anyone is interested, drop me a PM and I can put you in touch with her. Please also provide a pic, and she will send you a pic herself or go on cam. The only requirements are that you are hygienic, clean, white, slim or chubby (not fat) and not older than 40.

She does NOT want money for this. She is just very curious. She can't host, so you would have to take care of that.Doubt this is a real offer and it screams CAUTION to me. Noob with zero posts suddenly out of the goodness of his (or her) heart wants to set someone up with a cute, young educated girl who might up for DP, no strings attached with no money exchange.

Pessimist maybe, but a realist I am for sure and nothing is ever as good as it sounds di ba.

[Stroker Ace88]

[SNIP]I do want to mention that with my last visit in February, I had real tough times using Smart on the weekends at night. It was like the network was overloaded and I couldn't sent texts or call anyone, nor receive them for very long periods. I had to reboot my phone sometimes to get it to work again or wait a couple hours before it got back on track. This happened during the weekend nights for like 3 straight weekends. I had to buy a Globe sim to get in contact with someone I was supposed to meet at a certain time. I know other people around me were having similar problems with their Smart sims also and at the same time some were not. It was very strange.If everyone around you is having trouble using one provider maybe you were in a 'dead zone' where cell reception was minimal or unavailable. Happens alot in certain cement canyons in Cebu and Manila where cell towers are fixed on top of the buildings and you might be deep inside the building. Some hotels and malls have tried to fix this problem by introducing smaller cell transponders where cell reception was lacking.

Also could be some towers were down for maintainance in your area or the system was overloaded with unlimited text users. The concept of customer service is something that has never caught on in the Philippines and there is a real laissez faire attitude when it comes to the pride of providing good service. Most locals just shrug there shoulders and accept the outages and service interuptions as just another day in paradise.

[FreebieFan]

If everyone around you is having trouble using one provider maybe you were in a 'dead zone' where cell reception was minimal or unavailable. Happens alot in certain cement canyons in Cebu and Manila where cell towers are fixed on top of the buildings and you might be deep inside the building. Some hotels and malls have tried to fix this problem by introducing smaller cell transponders where cell reception was lacking.Ocassional visitors to Philippines will not understand why Smart phones will cut out in certain malls whilst Globe never does. Answer is simple, Ayala owns certain malls, and guess what, they don't allow any Smart signal boosting towers in or on their malls. Why would they help their competitor. So if one day your in a mall and your signal dies, figure its the kindly Ayala family going about its work.

[Key Master]

If everyone around you is having trouble using one provider maybe you were in a 'dead zone' where cell reception was minimal or unavailable. Happens alot in certain cement canyons in Cebu and Manila where cell towers are fixed on top of the buildings and you might be deep inside the building. Some hotels and malls have tried to fix this problem by introducing smaller cell transponders where cell reception was lacking.

Also could be some towers were down for maintainance in your area or the system was overloaded with unlimited text users. The concept of customer service is something that has never caught on in the Philippines and there is a real laissez faire attitude when it comes to the pride of providing good service. Most locals just shrug there shoulders and accept the outages and service interuptions as just another day in paradise.It only happened on weekend nights, and I was on Fields in Angeles. It worked fine when it wasn't a Friday or Saturday night. One weekend maybe, but it tells me that Smart is not taking care of their business more like. It's unfortunate as I have pretty much only used Smart since I've been there. I may have to get a second phone or something to hold my second sim card if that keeps up when I am out. I'm not saying this is all over the Smart network but reporting my recent experiences.

[Mr Hawaii]

Mr Hawaii if you read the posts between your post (8714) and the one you are responding to (8692) you would have seen many answers repeating exactly what you said.

No wonder some of us guys get irritated by people who don't RTFF before they post. Oh well. Must be Friday. That's why my fuse is short.When I posted, there were absolutely no answers repeating exactly what I said. Even now, as I review, there are still no answers repeating exactly what I said. And, even if there is more than one posting repeating the same idea, isn't that one purpose of the forum? No. Ok, you may have it all to yourself. This is my last post. Geez, get a life.

[Buko Max]

I do want to mention that with my last visit in February, I had real tough times using Smart on the weekends at night. It was like the network was overloaded and I couldn't sent texts or call anyone, nor receive them for very long periods. I had to reboot my phone sometimes to get it to work again or wait a couple hours before it got back on track. This happened during the weekend nights for like 3 straight weekends. I had to buy a Globe sim to get in contact with someone I was supposed to meet at a certain time. I know other people around me were having similar problems with their Smart sims also and at the same time some were not. It was very strange.Similar problem happened to me recently in that several people tried to text me. One text didn't arrive until 24 hours later! Another took about two days to appear! Most of these kinds of problems happened over the weekends. Another thing I have noticed with Smart is that some of their silly promotions and unsolicited texts will eat up your load. But when you are in the provinces in more remote areas, Smart coverage rules!


When I posted, there were absolutely no answers repeating exactly what I said. Even now, as I review, there are still no answers repeating exactly what I said. And, even if there is more than one posting repeating the same idea, isn't that one purpose of the forum? No. Ok, you may have it all to yourself. This is my last post. Geez, get a life.No worries Mr. H, I'm sure it is that time of the month for Red Kilt and he just needs to get laid!

[FreebieFan]

Imagine that would rule out 90% of the guys on this forum!One of my GF's says I look like 40. Or maybe she said "Freebie you look younger than my Dad". I always love that line.

Soon though I think it will be " wow Freebie, are you really as old as my Grandad "

[Andrew1001]

Doubt this is a real offer and it screams CAUTION to me. Noob with zero posts suddenly out of the goodness of his (or her) heart wants to set someone up with a cute, young educated girl who might up for DP, no strings attached with no money exchange.

Pessimist maybe, but a realist I am for sure and nothing is ever as good as it sounds di ba.Hi Stroker, yes I get where you are coming from; but a guy's got to make a first post at some point right? In any case I'd approach everything on this forum with some caution and make sure, before you jump into anything, that you are certain it's something you want to do. That would include speaking, swapping emails, even just meeting up at Starbucks beforehand, choosing the venue yourself etc.

[Run Mann]

When I posted, there were absolutely no answers repeating exactly what I said. Even now, as I review, there are still no answers repeating exactly what I said. And, even if there is more than one posting repeating the same idea, isn't that one purpose of the forum? No. Ok, you may have it all to yourself. This is my last post. Geez, get a life.Over 100 post to your credit and you run off because of another poster's views. You should know by now that this is largely an opinion forum where opinions are many times expressed and delivered as delicately as Hacksaw Jim Duggan's delivery. Man up Hawaii, you are after all a Mr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV1iCxhjhSQ

[Chocha Monger]

When I posted, there were absolutely no answers repeating exactly what I said. Even now, as I review, there are still no answers repeating exactly what I said. And, even if there is more than one posting repeating the same idea, isn't that one purpose of the forum? No. Ok, you may have it all to yourself. This is my last post. Geez, get a life.Mr. Hawaii, the Philippines forum is the home of old curmudgeons like Statler and Waldorf. Be prepared for some heckling after every post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYAK1_r0Zg&feature=related

[Mc Don]

Doubt this is a real offer and it screams CAUTION to me. Noob with zero posts suddenly out of the goodness of his (or her) heart wants to set someone up with a cute, young educated girl who might up for DP, no strings attached with no money exchange.

Pessimist maybe, but a realist I am for sure and nothing is ever as good as it sounds di ba.Plus she can host too. LOL 19yr old student can host where? This is craigslist talk not ISG.

[Andrew1001]

Plus she can host too. LOL 19yr old student can host where? This is craigslist talk not ISG.I think you misread: she CAN'T host. Not at all. She lives at home.

[Run Mann]

Plus she can host too. LOL 19yr old student can host where? This is craigslist talk not ISG.Actually he said she can't host not can.

[FreebieFan]

Mr. Hawaii, the Philippines forum is the home of old curmudgeons like Statler and Waldorf. Be prepared for some heckling after every post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYAK1_r0Zg&feature=relatedOr be prepared to be ignored if you have not actually set foot in the country in who's sex guide you comment on.

[Stroker Ace88]

Or be prepared to be ignored if you have not actually set foot in the country in who's sex guide you comment on.Baaadaaaaboom! Yah CM recently commented on the sad quality of guys that can be found in the Immigration line at NAIA. Only one small problem, he has never been in that line in his life which is infinitely more pathetic.

CM in the unlikely event you can piece together some of those broken sections from the flotsam wreckage of the Western male psyche and make a raft and paddle it to the shores of the Philippines, I will gladly buy you a SML. But I won't hold my breath waiting, because while some us might be sad we all turn into Brad Pitt once we exit Immigration.

[Stroker Ace88]

Ocassional visitors to Philippines will not understand why Smart phones will cut out in certain malls whilst Globe never does. Answer is simple, Ayala owns certain malls, and guess what, they don't allow any Smart signal boosting towers in or on their malls. Why would they help their competitor. So if one day your in a mall and your signal dies, figure its the kindly Ayala family going about its work.Very good point. The Ayala family owns 32% of Globe Telecom.

[Cunning Stunt]

Baaadaaaaboom! Yah CM recently commented on the sad quality of guys that can be found in the Immigration line at NAIA. Only one small problem, he has never been in that line in his life which is infinitely more pathetic.

CM in the unlikely event you can piece together some of those broken sections from the flotsam wreckage of the Western male psyche and make a raft and paddle it to the shores of the Philippines, I will gladly buy you a SML. But I won't hold my breath waiting, because while some us might be sad we all turn into Brad Pitt once we exit Immigration.Hey Stroker....don't you know its cruel to mock the afflicted – these poor sad right handed guys forced to use left handed mice. CM used to be halfway interesting once but his posts are like a stuck record these days, emanating sour envy from every embittered keystroke.

[FlyboyBill]

Leave your "good" cell phone home is USA (or whatever country). When you land in Manila, don't buy a phone at the airport. Go to your hotel, then go to the nearest mall and buy one there. Mid priced Nokia with Smart card has always worked well for me. Yes, you can call back to the USA (or other country) with no problem. Take the time to have your friendly phone saleswoman show you the features and how to call the USA. If she does a good job, offer lunch / dinner. Make this your "Philippines phone", and take it home with you. If you don't use the SIM for 60 or 90 days the card will expire, but so what. Just buy another when you return.Thanks! Mr. Hawaii. Exactly what I was looking for.

[Member #4566]

One thing I've learned after four trips to the Philippines is, never take the place seriously. This is adult Disneyland. You come, you pillage and you leave with good memories. No disrespect to expats, but the thought of me spending more than two weeks in the Philippines is unfathomable. I truly feel sorry for Filipinos who must live their entires lives in a shit-filled, hopeless, corrupt country.You arrive with your mind already made up. You need more experience getting to the bottom of your own feelings and to deconstruct them so as to ingratiate yourself into another culture.


Aside from the sex and girls, one benefit of traveling there is that it makes me grateful for what I have in America, to be with friends, family and coworkers who aren't trying mooch off me or feign kindness for ulterior motive. It makes me appreciate technology and civilization. It even makes me appreciate my dead-end job. The women in my life in America may not be as pretty or fawn all over me, but I know if they like me, it's likely genuine and I can have a real emotional and intellectual connection with her. It's not just her tits and vagina.You need to more closely examine motivation. Americans, Pinays, all want the same thing. You may be acclimatized and therefore more accepting of the methods by which American women acquire their needs. An Asian girl wants the same thing but her method might seem crass to a westerner as your method might seem the same to her. You are an American by your experience, upbringing and bearing, but you can move beyond that and become an enlightened world traveler.


Let's be honest here. Many guys go to the Philippines for love and sex because they have problems at home. Perhaps they lack social skills, they're workaholics, don't have a life, have no real friends, estranged from family, etc. They look to the Philippines as a substitute for their drab reality. The truth is, no matter how bad your life is at home, it will likely be worse in the Philippines. The country is crap. India may be poorer (at least for now) , but I don't sense Indians being shady, corrupt, conniving, lazy or moochers. So enjoy the Philippines while you're there but don't go there to run away from your problems. Confront your problems instead.Reminds me of the immigration to the New World from Europe. The New World didn't attract Dukes and Princes and welladjusted people. Only the oddballs and marginals who were not happy at home would get on a boat to go to Ellis Island sight unseen. But being in the PI is the closest that I have ever been to being famous. Everybody wants to be my friend. Think how life must be for the Brad Pitts and Tom Cruises of the world who are in fact famous in every street and restaurant in the USA and the world. By the way, I the find the shucking and jiving in New York and in some quarters in San Francisco far more sinister than in Manila.

Try bumming around Saigon or Laos for a couple of weeks. It will give you a different perspective. They are both good places to get to know.

[Wicked Roger]

Or be prepared to be ignored if your over 50, a daft dresser harboring a receding hairline but claims to get "feebies" from young Filipinas and fucks like a 20 year old John Holmes with a defunct prostate.And I can vouch for Freebie, he is and he does (shame I can't do smileys as would have loads here)

FP does your handle signify anything about the way you treat the ladies?


Men who don't have a problem pulling women in the west are not trolling developing countries looking for cheap sex .

So what are you doing here then FP?

[Screaming Beaver]

or be prepared to be ignored if you have not actually set foot in the country in who's sex guide you comment on.that is a hilarious comment coming from a guy who brags about freebies but in reality has to wear an adult [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) due to incontinence from a prostate surgery that didn't go as planned and also left him impotent. so who really is the phony?

[FreebieFan]

that is a hilarious comment coming from a guy who brags about freebies but in reality has to wear an adult [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) due to incontinence from a prostate surgery that didn't go as planned and also left him impotent. so who really is the phony?in reality? do you know me? i've know idea who you are sunshine, but the phrase "thick as two short planks" surely comes to mind. freebie does fine and gets plenty. you may want to worry about yourself and your distinct lack of factual accuracy.

tosser!

[FreebieFan]

And I can vouch for Freebie, he is and he does (shame I can't do smileys as would have loads here)

?Welcome back after a long absence Sir.

Hopefully you can bring some of your normal with and humour on a board that has recently seen an uptick of pond scum. Oh sorry Screaming Twat, I didn't mean to malign you. Or your inbred cousin in arms.

Hopefully you will be up to your usual antics in no time! Your posts are well remembered. (sorry Screamer, none of yours come to mind mate!)

[Chocha Monger]

that is a hilarious comment coming from a guy who brags about freebies but in reality has to wear an adult [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) due to incontinence from a prostate surgery that didn't go as planned and also left him impotent. so who really is the phony?screaming beaver,

since wicked rodger can vouch for freebie maybe he can tell us if freebie looks as good as he claims with a dog collar fastened tightly around his adam's apple. we know he carries around a bag of sexual prosthetics ever since that botched prostate surgery left him as limp as a wet dish cloth. wild thing 69 exposed freebie as a fraud on the taipei thread but i'm sure wicked rodger's stories about freebie on a leash with his sex aids are quite entertaining although jackson might not allow that kind of perversion on his forum.

[WestCoast1]

WR: Nice to see you back.

[FreebieFan]

Screaming Beaver,

Since Wicked Rodger can vouch for Freebie maybe he can tell us if Freebie looks as good as he claims with a dog collar fastened tightly around his Adam's apple. We know he carries around a bag of sexual prosthetics ever since that botched prostate surgery left him as limp as a wet dish cloth. Wild Thing 69 exposed Freebie as a fraud on the Taipei thread but I'm sure Wicked Rodger's stories about Freebie on a leash with his sex aids are quite entertaining although Jackson might not allow that kind of perversion on his forum.Ha. You guys really crack me up. I wouldn't wish prostate cancer on either you or your sad little side kick. But I'm sorry to advise you that my operation 8 years was a total success.

I also want to advise you that I have absolutely no problem in getting hard.

Mildthing69 was a just another sad little fellow (kind of like you jokers) who wanted to get access to my former freebies (nothing like letting someone else do the work, right) and was a tad upset when I suggested I really couldn't be arsed giving handouts.

Now be a sweet little Chocha and go play near an intersection.

But of course it wouldn't be an Ayala / Makati ave type interesection would it. Because you don't really know where that is.

Oh listen. Its your brave little sidekick telling all and sundry you get plenty LOL.

Its great that you are funny, as otherwise you would be worthless. Braneur!

[Ekspat]

that is a hilarious comment coming from a guy who brags about freebies but in reality has to wear an adult [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) due to incontinence from a prostate surgery that didn't go as planned and also left him impotent. so who really is the phony?seems you are frustrated and a bit underfucked, huh?

man, relax, meet me tomorrow evening in p. burgos in makati, i'll buy you a couple of beers.

so that you can calm down. see you!

[Redman69]

Damm so you really are like MaCauther with that I shall return shit.

Good to see you back Bro. Please do not post any of the photos of my little irish pinga and them hot little pinays. God Bless.

[Cunning Stunt]

Ha. You guys really crack me up.... !Nice riposte ace. These losers really show their class when they use a potentially terminal illness to make their silly little points. Whatever happened to wit? CM seem to have lost his and his yapping little brace of pet poodles never had any to begin with!

P. S I take it you meant MacArthur, Redman?

[Red Kilt]

I was pretty disgusted by the personal attacks on Freebie Fan from a couple of guys here.

Being an Aussie I can handle all the argy bargy and shit that we throw around at each other IN FUN but when it descends to the level of pot shots at what was a very stressful time for my friend FF with his prostate problem then it goes beyond reasonable limits.

As a regular acquaintance of FF when he is in Manila can I confirm that what you guys are saying about his post-operative condition is simply wrong.

Maybe the karma God will turn around and bite you both in the part that gives you most joy.

[Member #4152]

So much drama in this thread. So how's the weather in Manila?

[GoodEnough]

I was pretty disgusted by the personal attacks on Freebie Fan from a couple of guys here.

Being an Aussie I can handle all the argy bargy and shit that we throw around at each other IN FUN but when it descends to the level of pot shots at what was a very stressful time for my friend FF with his prostate problem then it goes beyond reasonable limits.

As a regular acquaintance of FF when he is in Manila can I confirm that what you guys are saying about his post-operative condition is simply wrong.

Maybe the karma God will turn around and bite you both in the part that gives you most joy.I've never met FF but I know from you and WR that he's an upstanding guy. What disturbs me more than the virtiol directed against him is what it says about the guys who delight in denigrating others. How pathetic to have so little self esteem that it can be bolstered only by tearing down others, especially others whom you've never met and are never likely to meet. Shame on you.

GE

[Fralalala]

Doubt this is a real offer and it screams CAUTION to me. Noob with zero posts suddenly out of the goodness of his (or her) heart wants to set someone up with a cute, young educated girl who might up for DP, no strings attached with no money exchange.

Pessimist maybe, but a realist I am for sure and nothing is ever as good as it sounds di ba.
Plus she can host too. LOL 19yr old student can host where? This is craigslist talk not ISG.Hello, I'm the 19 year old student that is being talked about in Andrew1001's post. You may say that I'm fake LOL because of 0 post and such. It's so hard to make an account here they think I'm a spam or whatever so I was only able to make an account now. Anyway If you want to know and confirm that I'm really who I am as said in the post I can show myself in cam decently LOL.

[Fralalala]

Hi everyone,

I don't post here very often (I'm pretty much a lurker) but one of my friends in Manila is looking to hook up with a guy (or even two guys at once) next week (Wed-Fri during the daytime). She is a graphic design student 19 years old, a bit chubby but VERY cute. Nice big rack. She is really sexually adventurous, which is why she asked me to do this "shout-out". So anyway, if anyone is interested, drop me a PM and I can put you in touch with her. Please also provide a pic, and she will send you a pic herself or go on cam. The only requirements are that you are hygienic, clean, white, slim or chubby (not fat) and not older than 40.

She does NOT want money for this. She is just very curious. She can't host, so you would have to take care of that.Hello, I'm the one that Andrew1001 is talking about in the quoted post above. I know it sounds suspicious and whatever. I recently just joined here so this is my first port. If you like to confirm who I am you can see me in cam or what. Take care.

[Ekspat]

So much drama in this thread. So how's the weather in Manila?Great. Clowdy and calm at daytime, only some little rain here and there. At leats for the last 5 days I'm here.

P. Burgos rocks!

[Wicked Roger]

Screaming Beaver,

Since Wicked Rodger can vouch for Freebie maybe he can tell us if Freebie looks as good as he claims with a dog collar fastened tightly around his Adam's apple. We know he carries around a bag of sexual prosthetics ever since that botched prostate surgery left him as limp as a wet dish cloth. Wild Thing 69 exposed Freebie as a fraud on the Taipei thread but I'm sure Wicked Rodger's stories about Freebie on a leash with his sex aids are quite entertaining although Jackson might not allow that kind of perversion on his forum.CM.

This ridiculous set of FRs has gone on long enough.

If you don't like FF thats OK just ignore him, same for Fifty Pesos. If you are in Manila as you say then why no FRs and sharing of information, no pictures etc. 24 posts mostly stating nothing or slagging off FF (on behalf of CM or are you and him the same?)

RK and GE said that it is sad when we have to resort to such FRs and I agree.

As for dog collars etc. Well not FF they don't fit his neck just the cuties who are infinitely more petite and slimmer than FF. And so much more attractive.

Jackson allows most forms of perversion (RTFF the rules are clear) as this is what this site is about but your constant sniping at a member about his illness is out of order

There is an ignore function so use it, same for Fiftyy Pesos (but in your case post information and photos as well as seems you are not in Manila IMHO but likely back in the USA writing with one hand and 2 fingers, wishing you were in Manila)

[Slippery]

It would be most appreciated if you or somebody in your stead would exercise some moderation in the context of recent sniping on this thread. As I guy that has had two prostrate surgeries and still has the little walnut sized gland, there is no reason in the world for others to attempt to be comedians about a problem that at least 20% of males across the planet end up with. WTF are they going to thug against women with breast cancer? The shit that is spreading on this thread is what's malignant.

[Bonkers1]

I go to manila every year so I will be going in April and I just have a few things that happened to me in the past and was wondering did this ever happen to you. I have chatted with a girl that I will meet there and every time we talk she said to me did you eat and do not forget to eat. Well let me tell you if you seen me the last thing you would think is that I ever forgot to eat.

Last time I was there I meet someone and she had a low cut shirt with boobs that were comming out of her shirt I thought wow nice rack. When we got to the room she took off her bra and I could not believe it I was looking at 2 pancakes pointing at the floor I thought where did her boobs go. So I looked in here bra maybe she left them in there. Nope no boobs there looked under the bed no boobs I thought who ever made this push up bra is a genius he can make boobs magicly apear he is better than houdini. This time I think I will visit borgos bars that way I can see and feel before I buy

[Cunning Stunt]

I go to manila every year....Hahaha. They sure are one sad and sorry pair of floppy spaniel ears. The push-up bra has to have been invented by a women. Only a female could have come up with such a maliciously devious contraption.

Filipinas are preoccupied by food. In a country where over 40% of the population go hungry at times and where starvation can be a real possibility, maybe this is understandable.

[Amanut]

I go to manila every year so I will be going in April and I just have a few things that happened to me in the past and was wondering did this ever happen to you. I have chatted with a girl that I will meet there and every time we talk she said to me did you eat and do not forget to eat. Well let me tell you if you seen me the last thing you would think is that I ever forgot to eat.I said in a previous post that turning the question around and asking the same to them worked well for me on my last trip. I had been chatting on DIA with a woman and told her I was going to visit but did not give a date. When I got to Manila I loaded my phone and sent her a text at about 7:00 PM saying only "have you eaten yet"? Her reply was "no I haven't. I'm still at work. Thanks for asking, Who's this"?

I met her an hour later, we ate dinner together, we had our hands in each others pants in the cab on our way back to my condo, and was in my bed as soon as we got in the door.

She said when she was asked the question she thought it was very considerate of me even though she did not know who I was as the number the text was coming from was unknown to her.

[Sammon]

I go to manila every year so I will be going in April and I just have a few things that happened to me in the past and was wondering did this ever happen to you. I have chatted with a girl that I will meet there and every time we talk she said to me did you eat and do not forget to eat. Well let me tell you if you seen me the last thing you would think is that I ever forgot to eat.

Last time I was there I meet someone and she had a low cut shirt with boobs that were comming out of her shirt I thought wow nice rack.Philippine people tend to eat all day. They like small meals several times a day rather than breakfast, lunch and dinner we are used to. Even when I would take girls for a dinner after two hours they are hungry again.

When I get online in the morning my chat friends ask me if I had breakfast.

I told them I never eat breakfast for a very long number of years. I guess it started during my college days when I used to get up late and no time to eat and if I did not have classes get up around lunch time.

They would advice me to eat well otherwise I would be sick. Maybe they are right.

Another thing is they are showing concern for your well being asking these questions.

I am really surprised about syndrome of falling boobs you discovered only once in your lifetime. For me it happened from high school. Many girls with big boobs fell like a rock. Very few with big boobs that stand up.

In my experience spanish girls tend to have stand up boobs when they are young more often.

[Pak Mike]

Last time I was there I meet someone and she had a low cut shirt with boobs that were comming out of her shirt I thought wow nice rack. When we got to the room she took off her bra and I could not believe it I was looking at 2 pancakes pointing at the floor I thought where did her boobs go.Actually, some of the hottest gals I have had over the years had droopy boobs. I don't mind. Am now programmed to find them quite sexy!

[Socker]

this is from 8/11.

[originally posted by chocha monger *[view original post]

i'the have to admit that america's heartland is filled with beautiful young blonde chicks with big firm milky tits with fresh pink nipples so mongers going elsewhere obviously can't play in that league. for whatever the reason mongers can only look at those women in penthouse and rub one out. the handsome rich and powerful men in america don't need to go hunting for ass in the third world where desperation and scarcity of options lowers the bar for pussy access. those types of guys are riding the best pussy america has to offer. yes, the truth hurts but third world mongering is for the old, the lame, the poor and socially inept. even the toothless must eat their meat and mongering in the grimy poverty stricken parts of the globe fills that need. nothing wrong with that as long as mongers don't start thinking they're brad pitt banging angelina jolie. obviously, no one who can pull quality ass in a safe clean wealthy western nation would risk injury, disease, robbery, death, incarceration, anal [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and their very own episode of 'locked up abroad' just to bust a nut. ]

my response then.

[i always appreciate seeing a post by a bigger,"know it all" than me. you really summed up the whole situation regarding mongering. you should be the president of something, maybe,"the know it all club of america". thank you for the very well written nosense and now (that we mongers know our place in the world) you can go back to the,"united states" forum. and please, pretty please w / a cherry on top. stay there! you will have all the beautiful young blonde chicks to yourself. ]

now.

cm has his fan club and worthless opinions and that's all i have seen from him. it's too bad too because he does have a flair for writing but as it is now i would say cm should disappear and come back as a nice guy. one who contributes and has positive info. to share. cheers and beers.

[Cunning Stunt]

If anyone who is in or visiting town shortly, might be turned on by a very slender (archetypal spinner) Moreno girl who tries very hard to please, could do much worse than meet this girl. Unusual facial structure for a Pinay (Spanish blood). She is in need and has asked me to help. White or Asian guys only (her choice).

Interested members can drop me a PM. No zero post lurkers please.

[BadIdea]

If anyone who is in or visiting town shortly, might be turned on by a very slender (archetypal spinner) Moreno girl who tries very hard to please, could do much worse than meet this girl. Unusual facial structure for a Pinay (Spanish blood). She is in need and has asked me to help. White or Asian guys only (her choice).

Interested members can drop me a PM. No zero post lurkers please.LOL! I chatted with this girl a little on DIA, and she is facebook friends with one of the girls I'm chatting with now! Might want to mention to her that she may not want to use photos with the signature CS mask on Facebook.

It's a small world.

[Gangles]

Over the years, whenever I have visited an ACE hardware store, I have found a very high proportion of very well presented, and chattable young women.

A recent visit after an absence of over a year has reaffirmed my faith in ACE as a great place to monger, as there is always something there that you can start with as a topic of common interest. Carry your calling card, and life can be fun.

G

[D Cups]

Droopy boobs only look good on D Cups or bigger.

In that case I volunteer to hold them up for her in lieu of a bra.


I go to manila every year so I will be going in April and I just have a few things that happened to me in the past and was wondering did this ever happen to you. I have chatted with a girl that I will meet there and every time we talk she said to me did you eat and do not forget to eat. Well let me tell you if you seen me the last thing you would think is that I ever forgot to eat.

Last time I was there I meet someone and she had a low cut shirt with boobs that were comming out of her shirt I thought wow nice rack. When we got to the room she took off her bra and I could not believe it I was looking at 2 pancakes pointing at the floor I thought where did her boobs go. So I looked in here bra maybe she left them in there. Nope no boobs there looked under the bed no boobs I thought who ever made this push up bra is a genius he can make boobs magicly apear he is better than houdini. This time I think I will visit borgos bars that way I can see and feel before I buy

[Bonkers1]

Droopy boobs only look good on D Cups or bigger.

In that case I volunteer to hold them up for her in lieu of a bra.You are a wise man D Cups