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Cunning Stunt
03-19-12, 04:31
LOL! I chatted with this girl a little on DIA, and she is facebook friends with one of the girls I'm chatting with now! Might want to mention to her that she may not want to use photos with the signature CS mask on Facebook.
It's a small world.You recognised her? Shit! I need bigger masks or maybe a supply of brown paper bags...lol.
Hahaha - I see what you mean about facebook now. Silly girl! Don't tell her.. (at least she hasn't posted the schoolie pics...yet)..big LOL.
You recognised her? Shit! I need bigger masks or maybe a supply of brown paper bags.lol.Well she is using the same photo as her profile picture. So I didn't recognize her under the mask just the photo. I stoped talking to her cause I couldn't add her as a friend and the only photo she had was that cheesy maxim photoshop. So my possible ladyboy early warning system was triggered.
Cunning Stunt
03-19-12, 08:15
Well she is using the same photo as her profile picture. So I didn't recognize her under the mask just the photo. I stoped talking to her cause I couldn't add her as a friend and the only photo she had was that cheesy maxim photoshop. So my possible ladyboy early warning system was triggered.Well, she only put them pics up today (I only sent them to her yesterday). I take it by the cheesy maxim photoshop that you meant the scary pic that makes her look like the girl out of The Exorcist when her head swivels around through 180 degrees! That gave me the creeps and I told her so.
You must have a hyper-sensitive gaydar because mine (which is pretty keen) never sounded at any stage.
Well, she only put them pics up today (I only sent them to her yesterday). I take it by the cheesy maxim photoshop that you meant the scary pic that makes her look like the girl out of The Exorcist when her head swivels around through 180 degrees! That gave me the creeps and I told her so.
You must have a hyper-sensitive gaydar because mine (which is pretty keen) never sounded at any stage.Yes that is a very scary photo!
Well I use FB to check and make sure they are real girls. Also to see if they have any attachments that might pose problems. For example one girl had pics of her and her kid and boyfriend / husband. And picks of said guy with his friends posing with their guns. So after that I went to a strictly no FB no interest policy. Your friend had some kind of problem on her page that made it so you could not request her as a friend, so I put her in the "something to hide" category.
I think that the reason for this forum is exchange experiences, not only chit-chats, but no field reports lately, so here we are.
Manila bay cafè:six years I came in Manila, almost all the same faces.
Girls like hungry eagles, not attractive, I've seen only one really nice, was taken out by a custumer and I left.
The place is no more fun, very smoky, old customers and girls at best medium quality (generally low, anyway)
Prices from 1. 500 to 2. 000 ST.
P. Burgos clubs: I visited almost all, in and out.
Desolating. 1-2 customers each place.
Onlu jools had more life, also because of the show I think (nice).
I enjoyed, but the prices. 150 for custumer. 350 LD.
Also a little bit pushy.
Quality of the girls: medium-good, with some really beautiful.
Barfine: from 2000 to 3000, plus the same for the girl ST.
EDSA complex:Also almost empty, only firehouse was working well.
Customers almost all asians. Sad feeling, nothing fun, but may be it was me, I was used to go in clubs to have fun, now it seems no more usual.
Quality of girls: medium, IMHO.
Barfine 2000+2000, always ST.
ST seems to be the rule nowadays.
Red rooster, red gartner, bubbles: yes, here I've found my companions for the nights.
Not many customers, bur nice places, gentle papasans, girls very available (even if not models).2000 TDL.
Starfleet: nice place for a quickie:you enter, choose the girl and spend 1 hour together. Depending on the room and the time of the day, from 1200+1200 to up.
They don't have anymore the aquarium, you have to look at the girls trought some little holes in the wall.
Air force one:this time I didn't try, but last time I found it a little bit better quality girls than starfleet (same for the rooms) , but the price is higher.
I didn't try also the KTV: not my cup of tea spending a lot of money only for singing in good company, but the working girls outside the places were really nice.
Now, a warning: be careful on the streets around MBC at night: I've been approached by a kid asking for money. I didn't care, he began to touch me eveywhere, clearly trying to steal my wallet. After few steps appeared other two kids, older, with a grin face, and maybe also something in their hands.
At that point, I turned back and left, I didn't want troubles.
I was in M. H. Del Pilar, near Butterfly for who knows. 1AM.
Don't ask me where are all these places, RTFF please
I forgot to write about the casas (or "dormitorios" as someone calls them).
Nice ladies, quality medium-high, you can find there girls not too professional, TLN they ask 4000, easily down to 3500, but if you are a good negotiator can go for 3000.
Good deal IMHO, as the company can be agreable, mainly in you don't want only fuck-fuck and want a longer time with the girl (restaurant, dancing and so on) , as I personally prefer, and many times (not always, of course) I found exactly the kind of girl I was searching for.
I'm not interested on description of how many times I came, what positions I made, how was the BJ, if she had big boobs or if I used condom or not.
Cheers
In short: to the hell with the bars and touts, stick to MBC freelancers or streetwalkers.
Makati.
Nothing much in overpriced P. Burgus street. I didn't take a chance to explore it too much as it didn't seem worth it.
Some freelancers around on Makati Ave. Plus, massage girls standing along Makati Ave and giving you their business cards with their names, that you can ask for service in your room are something to explore, especially if you are young and / or handsome. At least you get a massage which is relatively cheap, right?)
Being cheap myself, I decided to stay in Great Eastern Makati, and it was fine for a few nights stay actually because I expected worse. The hotel is somewhat run down, but for me ok to stay in. Moreover, the bathroom was renovated and totally fine.
Malate.
Dirty area. I stayed in Las Palmas hotel (around 50$/night) which was fine. The location (Pedro Gil / Mabini area) is actually good: 7/11s, just a couple blocks from Manila Bay Café, freelancers starting roaming around in early evening, Robinsons Mall not far with freelancers in front of it. I wouldn't recommend staying north of Sta. Monica (I had an impression that it gets scarier there at night) or south Gen Malvar street (unless you're a KTV lover with lots of cash). Next time I'm in Malate I'll stick to Las Palmas Hotel area and MBC area (Boulevard Mansion hotel may be an option, stayed there 1 night in a Studio with a nice view of the Manila bay, but it had only twin beds, don't know if they have double bed studios).
I had a few streetwalkers, all for 1000 / ST. I think I could bargain that down a little bit, but wasn't in a bargaining mood since the girls I took were young and cuter than average MBC girl, and no need for drinks etc.
Some streetwalkers will have their 'mamas' who pimp them, those are usually young inexperienced girls coming from the province for cash, so maybe they feel safer working with a mama. Still 1000 ST.
For WGs there, seems like ST is always only one pop. One SW I was negotiating with one night asked for 2000 for a 2 pops, so I didn't take her 'because that's too much for a freelancer I think.
For me MBC was quite disappointing in quality or spoiled attitudes (I am spoiled too I know LOL). It is fun though to sit, have a beer, then go around the place, maybe chat to some girls, then go upstairs for the life band, then go downstairs to check out if there are new girls, then go to your hotel for 30 mins if it's close to have a break from the crowded bar, then go back to listen for the life band, have a beer and so on. The girls seem to be approaching Korean old guys much more often than young white me there. I only was approached mostly by some ugly ones, but had looks and smiles from cute ones too. The problem is that girls often seem to be cute when you look at them from a distance, but not anymore when you come closer *sad face. My last evening in Manila I saw a pretty slim young chick in MBC on the 1st floor in a sexy dress, but seemed like she knew she is prettier than average. I asked her about ST, she said 3K, I laughed, said 1K, she laughed, said 2K final price, I said 1, 5K final price for just 1 hr 1 pop (as I had to go to the airport soon). She wasn't willing to do that for 1, 5K waiting for her love from Korea probably (she didn't meet her love within 1 more hour that I stayed there though). So I just decided to finish my beer chatting with some 30 year old girl which seemed quite shy and not of my taste, but a nice person and fun to talk to and didn't ask for anything, so I gave her 100P to buy herself a drink and left MBC till my next trip to the Phils. I saw some Korean guy giving 100P tip just to get rid of a girl LOL, I never do that or when a girl importunately asks 'we drink now! ', but I liked that girl and she appreciated my 100P. Also, what I learned if you see a girl you like you better approach her soon, 'because I've lost some opportunities waiting and deciding if I should approach her or not, and they got busy with other guys.
So, after I left MBC, I had only one hour before check out so I was just going to take a shower, pack my bag and head to the airport, but by good fortune ran into a cute 21 year old streetwalker who made my last hour in Manila really pleasant with great attitude, nice body no kids, pics and a safe flight wish in the end. *A happy satisfied smile
In Malate there will be lots of touts trying to get you to one of those bars on Mabini near United Nations Ave and a couple on nearby streets (it's so freaking annoying to be bothered by those guys with their offers every time you walk out of your hotel or just walk around!).
I actually did go with one of them to find out and post here LOL. While walking to Red Rooster bar which is one of those bars he told me 1500 / ST (3hrs).2500 / LT, no need to buy drinks or tip because 'he has a salary' (even though he did ask for a tip in the end which I was happy not to give LOL). I looked in 5 or 6 bars with him and talked to mama / papa-sans a little bit and watched the girls who will line up (or rather sit on the sofas) for you to make your choice. About 10 girls in every bar of average looks with 1 or 2 odd cute ones. In 4 bars I was the only visitor at the moment (around 7-8 pm). In one of the bars there was only one old white guy who was chatting with the two cutest girls in the bar so I and the tout went to the next (and last) one.
There I spotted a tall girl (girl A) who seemed quite cute, but didn't seem to smile or be happy (why didn't I realize this was a sign?). I chatted with mama-san and of course she recommended her to me. I went even further and asked the mama-san if any of the girls work well together, and the mama-san showed me two couples, and girl A was among them. The 2nd girl who mama-san said she works well with was actually not bad looking too (girl B) , so I figured what the hell, this could be a fun experience remembering Devil's Den of Pattaya. I asked to talk to the girls a little bit, they agreed to stay 3hrs with pics and 'making me happy'. Believing them was a mistake actually. I payed to the bar for the girls (3K) and of course everyone asked me for a tip. I however didn't give any saying I only have 'big money' just because I think there's no need to tip those assholes who are so determined to extract as much money as possible from us.
Me and girls took a taxi to my hotel, which or course was non-metered even though I insisted the guy turn on the meter and costed 100PHP instead of around 50PHP it should have been because it was just a few blocks away from my hotel. We got to my room with the girls (no problem taking them in if they have IDs). And then they wanted to 'make a deal' with me, asking for 500PHP tips to each after their service. I told them, only if you make me happy and I take pics as we agreed before. They said ok, 'we'll do our best to make you happy'. Well, okay, I was going to tip them well anyway in case the service was good.
So here we go. They went to the shower together and didn't allow me in the bathroom with them – ok, not a big deal. When they undressed I realized that you cannot tell much about their bodies when they are sitting on a sofa in the dark bar dressed. Another disappointment. Whatever, we got down to business. Two average BBBJ (I had to persuade them it should be BB) with cleaning my little friend with a wet face towel all the time even though I washed it well and then to the main part. No DFK ('all girls at bars do not kiss'). Sex seemed to be more like a torture for both of them. So, a lousy fucking with girl A, changing condom, lousy fucking with girl B. 1 pop all in all, then they went to the shower, and I was quite surprised when they came out dressed. I was like what the hack we agreed on 3 hrs, and they told me, why are you surprised, we can sit now and talk for the rest of the time but give us our tip first. I said I'd give them tips if they made me happy, and 1 pop with 2 girls is by no means what makes me happy. They started to get angry and me too as we argued over this. I said I was not giving them any tip and they had to leave my room now. But they were just sitting on the bed, not going anywhere unless I tip them 500 each. I said I was going to call the hotel security, girl A said she was going to call police. I said fine, just leave my room now. This was taking us nowhere, so eventually they said give us taxi money. I was getting tired with wasting my time with them, so I gave 100 to girl A. They started asking for a 100 to girl B, I said no way, now get out of my room, let's go I want to talk to your manager. They realized I am not there to financially support their lousy service so I could finally take them downstairs, where they got their IDs and I saw them jumping into one of the passing jeepneys. Well, it was minus 3000 + 100 + 100 PHP. 2 more girls fucked (even though it was not too enjoyable like it's supposed to be) , and another lesson learned. Oh wait! They also ate a bag of potato chips from 7-11. I've put everything what was in the minibar away to the wardrobe, otherwise it actually could be a 500 tip to the girls in the form of food and drinks LOL.
It was too early to call it a night so I headed to MBC for live bands, drinks and girls!
Yeah, kids are wild in Malate and area, esp at night. I saw a foreign young guy near 7-11 on corner of Padre Faura / Del Pilar at around 3 am Surrounded by 6-8 kids trying to get something from him, he could barely make it through them, and when he did he got kicked in the butt by a little motherfucker. Never did I see something like that in the Phils but that area. I also was approached by 2 kids from that "gang". I was keeping one of my hands in my pocket with the wallet and trying to push them away with the other hand, I got rid of them quite quickly 'because I was walking a different direction they seemed to be willing to go.
Now, a warning: be careful on the streets around MBC at night: I've been approached by a kid asking for money. I didn't care, he began to touch me eveywhere, clearly trying to steal my wallet. After few steps appeared other two kids, older, with a grin face, and maybe also something in their hands.
At that point, I turned back and left, I didn't want troubles.
Fast Buck Artist
03-24-12, 01:07
In Malate there will be lots of touts trying to get you to one of those bars on Mabini near United Nations Ave and a couple on nearby streets (it's so freaking annoying to be bothered by those guys with their offers every time you walk out of your hotel or just walk around!).
I actually did go with one of them to find out and post here LOL.I also took a tour of those seedy mabini minibars, but haven't seen anything I could be interested in. The girls are ugly, the bar is slummy, and usually no customers inside. Not surprised to hear of your bad experience. Malate in general is the lowest quality mongering area in Manila, you'll find the ugliest and most desperate girls here, drug addicts, petty criminals, the most asshole cab drivers, and the most corrupt cops. None of it should be a surprise.
WestCoast1
03-24-12, 02:29
Malate in general is the lowest quality mongering area in Manila, you'll find the ugliest and most desperate girls here, drug addicts, petty criminals, the most asshole cab drivers, and the most corrupt cops.And the best f*cklets.
Cunning Stunt
03-24-12, 03:03
Malate in general is the lowest quality mongering area in Manila, you'll find the ugliest and most desperate girls here, drug addicts, petty criminals, the most asshole cab drivera, and the most corrupt cops. None of it should be a surprise.Agreed. The area has deteriorated markedly in recent years. I used to be a frequent visitor but the area and its scummy denizens is just too bleak, seedy and depressing for me these days.
Starchild2012
03-24-12, 04:04
Well, Finally, the truth is coming out, Manila Bay Cafe (la cafe) was promoted insanely in all online forums as some sort of heaven on earth. Not withstanding the crime, girls and everything in between. Malate area should be the last place a monger should visit in Manila. There was a serial propaganda of sorts to promote Manila Bay Cafe in these forums. I'm from a third world country and even I was scared visiting malate and I have seen worse areas in my life back home. I never understood why mongers from west would visit such a dangerous place.
The most corrupt taxi drivers, the most aggressive beggars, the most dangerous criminals, the most dirtiest place, the most despo girls, the most corrupt cops of all places are in the malate area. Even local Filipinos don't go there. There are far better places in manila to get laid than Malate. Its been promoted unnecessarily in forums by the owner cohorts to keep the business going.
Cunning Stunt
03-24-12, 04:50
...Malate area should be the last place a monger should visit in Manila.
...Even I was scared visiting malate and I have seen worse areas in my life back home.
...There are far better places in manila to get laid than Malate.Except, to save confusion, the area in question is really Ermita. Malate, at least south of Pedro Gil and up near Remedios Circle is not too bad and has lots of good nightlife and some decent cafes, hotels and restaurants.
Tally Wacker
03-24-12, 07:07
Except, to save confusion, the area in question is really Ermita. Malate, at least south of Pedro Gil and up near Remedios Circle is not too bad and has lots of good nightlife and some decent cafes, hotels and restaurants.I stayed at the Hyatt Hotel in Malate on my first trip to Phil. I made my reservation right before the old MBC was closed. Its right across from that 7-11 and down the street from Robinsons mall.
Durring the week I was there I almost got hit by a jeepny, got over charged, had a fight with a taxi driver, fought off many beggars, got screwed over by a bar girl, had the best sex of my life with three different young hot filipinas, got shit faced and had the time of my life.
I don't plan to stay in that area again but I do plan on getting shit faced and having a few filipinas again.
Malate in general is the lowest quality mongering area in ManilaAnd the easiest one. Still good experience can be found there quite cheap.
So what is the highest quality mongering in Manila then? P Burgus with 4-5K per pop? I can pay less in my home country
Starchild2012
03-24-12, 13:19
Except, to save confusion, the area in question is really Ermita. Malate, at least south of Pedro Gil and up near Remedios Circle is not too bad and has lots of good nightlife and some decent cafes, hotels and restaurants.Correct. Sorry for the confusion.
Well, Finally, the truth is coming out, Manila Bay Cafe (la cafe) was promoted insanely in all online forums as some sort of heaven on earth. Not withstanding the crime, girls and everything in between. Malate area should be the last place a monger should visit in Manila. There was a serial propaganda of sorts to promote Manila Bay Cafe in these forums. I'm from a third world country and even I was scared visiting malate and I have seen worse areas in my life back home. I never understood why mongers from west would visit such a dangerous place.
The most corrupt taxi drivers, the most aggressive beggars, the most dangerous criminals, the most dirtiest place, the most despo girls, the most corrupt cops of all places are in the malate area. Even local Filipinos don't go there. There are far better places in manila to get laid than Malate. Its been promoted unnecessarily in forums by the owner cohorts to keep the business going.The area is not as bad as you say it is. I have Stayed at ermita area hotels numerous times. Never been a victim of crime. There are many bars, restaurents and Robinson mall nearby. There is nothing to be scared of staying in the area or walking around at night. Yes, there are street urchins and beggars but they are just looking for handouts. Few pesos if you care to give will satisfy them. In many major cities even in USA there are panhandlers.
Most often I give left over food from the restaurent to them.
Any major city is dirty in the strict sense. Manila is no different. If you go to Hong Kong also they have real dirty streets.
We are there for mongering purposes. So MBC fits the bill where you can relax, have drink, chat with one or many, take a girl you like without breaking the bank. Even if you do not take a girl I find it is a nice relaxing place.
Yes, there are other places as well but no way any of them are guaranteed with respect to scams, extortion etc.
In any inner city reasonable care needs to be taken. Ermita area is 100% times better than rough neighbourhoods in Bronx and Brooklyn.
Mr Enternational
03-24-12, 14:39
Well, Finally, the truth is coming out, Manila Bay Cafe (la cafe) was promoted insanely in all online forums as some sort of heaven on earth. Not withstanding the crime, girls and everything in between. Malate area should be the last place a monger should visit in Manila. There was a serial propaganda of sorts to promote Manila Bay Cafe in these forums. I'm from a third world country and even I was scared visiting malate and I have seen worse areas in my life back home. I never understood why mongers from west would visit such a dangerous place.It's probably for the same reason I visited Congress House when I was in Mumbai; because that is where the girls are! It doesn't seem like such a dangerous place to me. But then again I'm a black guy and we don't usually get bothered much by the poor, downtrodden, and the robbers when overseas. Don't expect this guy to pay insane EDSA prices when I can get a FL from MBC all night for 1000 to 1500.
Member #4698
03-24-12, 15:16
The area is not as bad as you say it is. I have Stayed at ermita area hotels numerous times. Never been a victim of crime. There are many bars, restaurents and Robinson mall nearby. There is nothing to be scared of staying in the area or walking around at night. Yes, there are street urchins and beggars but they are just looking for handouts. Few pesos if you care to give will satisfy them. In many major cities even in USA there are panhandlers.
We are there for mongering purposes. So MBC fits the bill where you can relax, have drink, chat with one or many, take a girl you like without breaking the bank. Even if you do not take a girl I find it is a nice relaxing place.
Yes, there are other places as well but no way any of them are guaranteed with respect to scams, extortion etc.
In any inner city reasonable care needs to be taken.Ditto: I agree with Sammon 100 percent. I just spent a few days in Malate during my February / March Asian trip. It was my first visit to Malate. The time before I stayed in Makati. I felt comfortable and safe at all times, although I admit I placed myself more on alert than I would if I were cruising around Sukhumvit. The place reminded me of some third world Rush Street, Chicago scene in an alternative universe. The area is funky for sure, but far from the dangerous jungle Starchild describes. I am scheduled to return to Manila in October. I haven't decided yet whether to stay in Malate or Makati which clearly indicates I am torn and like both locations.
MBC is a roadhouse bar packed with friendly / eager FL's. I was surprised how small it is, yet it is a very lively bar and a good place to hang out and have a cold one. There were a couple of lookers when I was there, but most girls did not interest me. I let one of the prettier girls pick me up. The thing is, MBC is one block from the Hyatt. So unless you out alone at 2 or 3 in the morning and drunk, I just don't see the problem. Take care, that's all and don't get stupid.
One night I also checked out F1 KTV. I found a better class of girls there than at MBC. I paid the sitting fee to meet and socialize with a very pretty and young girl. We got along great (no hanky panky and no bar fines allowed) , but she gave me her phone number and we got together for a little L&L (lunch and love) the next day. I would definitely go back and I am in correspondence with her, so I plan to see her again.
My last night in Malate, I went down to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. It was a short taxi ride from my hotel, the Pan Pacific. I planned to check out 2 or 3 bars, but the lineup at the Fire Station was very good and I ended up bar fining a real cute girl from there. I recommend Fire Station and next time plan to check out a couple more bars there. The quality of girls was superior to MBC, roughly on par with Burgos, and above the average Fields Bar girls in AC.
So in conclusion I kind of dug Malate / Ermita, although I wouldn't want to stay there longer than a week. I did very well at F1 KTV and at Edsa and not bad at MBC. I also cruised Robinson a little but did not pick up any of the FL's I saw there although a few tried to pick me up. Maybe another time, who knows. IMO Pan Pacific is the upscale hotel to stay. I paid $103 for an upgraded room on a high floor. The room was modern, spacious, and clean. The pool was good and the food was pretty good too. Maybe for newbie's Makati is better, but for me, I like both Makati and Malate. They both have their pluses and minuses.
Well, Finally, the truth is coming out, Manila Bay Cafe (la cafe) was promoted insanely in all online forums as some sort of heaven on earth. Not withstanding the crime, girls and everything in between. Malate area should be the last place a monger should visit in Manila. There was a serial propaganda of sorts to promote Manila Bay Cafe in these forums. I'm from a third world country and even I was scared visiting malate and I have seen worse areas in my life back home. I never understood why mongers from west would visit such a dangerous place.
The most corrupt taxi drivers, the most aggressive beggars, the most dangerous criminals, the most dirtiest place, the most despo girls, the most corrupt cops of all places are in the malate area. Even local Filipinos don't go there. There are far better places in manila to get laid than Malate. Its been promoted unnecessarily in forums by the owner cohorts to keep the business going.You are just cut because of your naive mistekes last time. MBC is a great place and if you know how to work it you will find a descent girl for a good price. Please let us know if you know of a better / cheaper place in Manila LOL.
As for scary what can I say some people are just born scared. I have walked 100's of times there at night by myself and I still alive and fine. Walk quick, don't pay attenttion to anyone or even better take a cab.
The most dangerous criminals LOL, have you heard of Tondo, Cavite, Caloocan. Try some of those places at night. The only thing you got right is the cab drivers but if you stay close what can he take from you? Extra 10-20 peso? U can always catch a cab on roxas bul where you will run into a good cab driver within few minutes anyway
WestCoast1
03-24-12, 19:11
You are just cut because of your naive mistekes last time. MBC is a great place and if you know how to work it you will find a descent girl for a good price. Please let us know if you know of a better / cheaper place in Manila LOL.Try G-Point Cafe on the other side of Robinson's. It's on Padre Faura, about 5 blocks from MBC. Smaller, less drama than MBC.
As for scary what can I say some people are just born scared. I have walked 100's of times there at night by myself and I still alive and fine. Walk quick, don't pay attenttion to anyone or even better take a cab.I, too, have walked the area around MBC many times, day and night, with little or no drama. Its safer at 1am than 10pm (fewer people on the streets) , and worse even at 3pm with all the auto traffic.
WC, G Point is so highly above the scum that sets foot in MBC (including myself once in awhile) that its refreshing. Just give the fuck wits wrong directions please.
WestCoast1
03-25-12, 02:32
WC, G Point is so highly above the scum that sets foot in MBC (including myself once in awhile) that its refreshing. Just give the fuck wits wrong directions please.Crap, you're right. Bad directions before, gents. G-Point is on Burgos street. In Alabang.
Hahaha.
Crap, you're right. Bad directions before, gents. G-Point is on Burgos street. In Alabang.
Hahaha.Your GPS is finely tuned. Hahahahahaha. That'll confuse enought people.
Stroker Ace88
03-25-12, 02:45
Try G-Point Cafe on the other side of Robinson's. It's on Padre Faura, about 5 blocks from MBC. Smaller, less drama than MBC.
I, too, have walked the area around MBC many times, day and night, with little or no drama. Its safer at 1am than 10pm (fewer people on the streets) , and worse even at 3pm with all the auto traffic.Yep same experience. I have walked around MBC-LAC at all hours of the day and night with no real harm. A few beggars, a few hustlers, a few street pro's, a few street kids. Just stay alert and watch your surroundings and there should be no problems. Have a few coins ready to throw on the ground if you are threatened by the kids. They go for the coins while you make a swift exit.
However I did take a taxi from LAC two blocks down the street to the Hyatt late one night when a few groups of street kids looked like they would duke it out. Cost 50p but worth it to avoid the little pacquiao fight club.
Fast Eddie 48
03-25-12, 03:05
yep same experience. i have walked around mbc-lac at all hours of the day and night with no real harm. a few beggars, a few hustlers, a few street pro's, a few street kids. just stay alert and watch your surroundings and there should be no problems. have a few coins ready to throw on the ground if you are threatened by the kids. they go for the coins while you make a swift exit.
however i did take a taxi from lac two blocks down the street to the hyatt late one night when a few groups of street kids looked like they would duke it out. cost 50p but worth it to avoid the little pacquiao fight club.to stroker,
you are a lucky guy if this don't happen to you it does not mean it don't happen, my first trip to manila back in 2000 going back to my hotel with a babe from mbc i got shake down by one of the manila police, he want some bribe money or he is going to take me back to the police station he said the girl is **** without even checking th girl i'd or taking to the girl.
fast eddie 48
I haven't been posting much since I'm more like a follower and not so active in mongering around myself, most like a guide sometimes for visitors. It's been fun though reading your experiences and posts.
I've been living in the Philippines for three years now and am a permanent resident, I'm from northern part of Europe so there is not a lot of people from my country living here and if there is, I'm one of the youngest of them since I was born. 79. Just a handful I've found. Well that doesn't matter, there is still plenty of friends. I'm happily married and running several businesses, don't go out much. Occasional night out is enough for me. I'm living in a south part of Metro Manila, there is not much of working girls anywhere here, but there is plenty of free ones, would just need to choose if I'd like.
By the way I know the owners of MBC, nice people though older already, they have also another bar / resto here in south, but that's the clean one.
Well anyway, there is no reason for this post. Just thought of saying Hi to you all. Keep up the good work guys.
Key Master
03-25-12, 07:00
Well, Finally, the truth is coming out, Manila Bay Cafe (la cafe) was promoted insanely in all online forums as some sort of heaven on earth. Not withstanding the crime, girls and everything in between. Malate area should be the last place a monger should visit in Manila. There was a serial propaganda of sorts to promote Manila Bay Cafe in these forums. I'm from a third world country and even I was scared visiting malate and I have seen worse areas in my life back home. I never understood why mongers from west would visit such a dangerous place.
The most corrupt taxi drivers, the most aggressive beggars, the most dangerous criminals, the most dirtiest place, the most despo girls, the most corrupt cops of all places are in the malate area. Even local Filipinos don't go there. There are far better places in manila to get laid than Malate. Its been promoted unnecessarily in forums by the owner cohorts to keep the business going.Wow! Bring on the hate! Are you serious? If you have that many problems with the place, definitely stay away. Manila is definitely not for the inexperienced. Walking around the area does take someone who knows how to handle themselves and have to be aware of their surroundings. Everyone is different. Some people may look like easier targets than others. I've had the experience of a group of kids begging to me and try to pickpocket me at the same time and the one where the guy tries to run into you and spill his food to get money, but no threats to my life, but I know it can happen but it can happen anywhere. For sure someone like you should just stay away from there. Taking a taxi makes sense even if you have to overpay. The more savvy will not take taxis right out front of MBC as the driver may have to pay a fee to some of the people hanging out there. In regards to taxis being corrupt there, I went there thinking that years ago and hardly ever have issues. If they don't want to use the meter, I can get out and get another taxi or just agree to some reasonable price if you know about how much it is. I've had some of the best finds in my life out of MBC. For some people, it's not their cup of tea. Depending on the person, they may get treated differently there based on so many different factors. I don't understand your accusations and condemnations of the place that others who have stated good things are propaganda, if anything it appears your statements are.
GoodEnough
03-25-12, 07:28
to stroker,
you are a lucky guy if this don't happen to you it does not mean it don't happen, my first trip to manila back in 2000 going back to my hotel with a babe from mbc i got shake down by one of the manila police, he want some bribe money or he is going to take me back to the police station he said the girl is **** without even checking th girl i'd or taking to the girl.
fast eddie 48funny, i've lived here for almost 9 years, and i've been, on my own, to places around the country that are infinitely sleazier than the area in malate around mbc. i've never had anything even approaching a problem. maybe i'm lucky, or perhaps manila, at least its seedier environs, isn't for the faint of heart and the frightened. i'm old, i'm not very big, and i'd be an easy target, i would think for the predators. though bad luck can occur anywhere, i think knowing a bit of the local language, projecting the right attitude, and not presenting one's self as an obvious newbie all lessen the probability of trouble.
ge
Try G-Point Cafe on the other side of Robinson's. It's on Padre Faura, about 5 blocks from MBC. Smaller, less drama than MBC.To me G Point is just another option near by. I would not say its a better or cheaper alternative to MBC. Also MBC is 24/7 G Point not so much. Who knows beuty is in the eye of the beholder and maybe you are just luckier there. I actually do OK at MBC and rate the place far better then say Havana which most members here would disagree. Bottom line the whole Malate / Ermita / Mabini area is far more value for money then Makati, QC, Pasay.
We had a good brief discussion few months ago about other areas where you can find street action perhaps those places are the better value for money alternative.
Funny, I've lived here for almost 9 years, and I've been, on my own, to places around the country that are infinitely sleazier than the area in Malate around MBC. I've never had anything even approaching a problem. Maybe I'm lucky, or perhaps Manila, at least its seedier environs, isn't for the faint of heart and the frightened. I'm old, I'm not very big, and I'd be an easy target, I would think for the predators. Though bad luck can occur anywhere, I think knowing a bit of the local language, projecting the right attitude, and not presenting one's self as an obvious newbie all lessen the probability of trouble.
GEAbsolutely. The faint hearted and frightened perhaps should keep at being keyboard warriors. Projecting the right atitude is the key. Move quick, make the right eye contact when need to, don't talk back and know exactly where you are going.
WestCoast1
03-25-12, 17:04
Absolutely. The faint hearted and frightened perhaps should keep at being keyboard warriors. Projecting the right atitude is the key. Move quick, make the right eye contact when need to, don't talk back and know exactly where you are going.One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster.
The bars are temples but the pearls ain't free.
You'll find a God in every golden cloister.
A little flesh, a little history.
I can feel an angel slidin' up to me.
One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble.
Not much between despair and ecstasy.
One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble.
Can't be too careful with your company.
I can feel the Devil walking next to me
Blackangst
03-25-12, 22:00
One night in Bangkok and the world's your oyster.
The bars are temples but the pearls ain't free.
You'll find a God in every golden cloister.
A little flesh, a little history.
I can feel an angel slidin' up to me.
One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble.
Not much between despair and ecstasy.
One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble.
Can't be too careful with your company.
I can feel the Devil walking next to meWhats chess have to do with mongering?
Just teasin'
WestCoast1
03-26-12, 00:19
Whats chess have to do with mongering?
Just teasin'Haha. Lets see who else gets that. My point is, for some persons, such as Starchild, one can have a miserable time in phils, or SE asia. It's not that SE asia is not their cup of tea. It MIGHT be that those persons are not SE Asia's cup of tea (or filipines cup of tea). Part of the situation might be racial (skin color) , or maybe not. A few cases in point:
1. A gent visited filipines for the first time last year, and had a hard time. He's a very experienced world traveler. He's been to many of the sh*tholes. We winged together a year prior in Jakarta (his first SE Asia visit, although he was a regular in japan) , to good avail. Yet in his first filipines visit (alone) , he wrote on the board some of his bad experiences, such as getting arrested. Or not getting arrested, as he's not sure if it was real PNP that detained him, for smoking (possible scam) in public. This kind of crap on a first visit can leave a bad taste in the mouth. While I have had mostly good experiences (like GE) , I got my pockets picked once in AC. That's the majority of my street troubles. A few other minor street incidents. But in total, many good experiences that over-ride the bad. However, if you have a bad experience on the first trip, you get tempted to not come back and give it another chance.
2. A buddy of mine in States, a latino, visited phils last year. We tried to get time off work together, as it was his first trip overseas to asia, but it didn't work out that way. On his maiden voyage he too, had problems. Among other things, he appears asian, Filipino. Locals would talk to him in languages he didn't understand. When he identified himself as american, prices suddenly jumped (haha). In AC, mamasans thought he was a police officer. He was begged on the street by a poor woman carrying an infant. Her other young son, a few years old, was pulling on his pants. For reasons he doesn't understand, he said something that made her mad. She started screaming in a language he didn't understand, pointing at him. A crowd gathered. A man in the crowd explained the woman was claiming my buddy pushed her young son to the ground and hit the boy (he did not). A police officer walked up and broke up the melee, telling my friend to be on his way (he got lucky). My friend also had good experiences, but now prefers to take his chances in central and south america, where he is comfortable, rather than return to asia.
3. A man takes a girl to his hotel room, a SW. After the nawty, she claims she is 16, and blackmails him for a lot of piso. He's all done with filipines.
4. Starchild and others report problems from their appearance. Skin color, or asian appearance (non ko-jap) , may get ignored by filipinas, and might become targets walking the streets. Oddly, like GE, I'm really white, and rarely have street problems. A few repeated problems like these, and it can make a guy want to not go there.
One night can make even a hard man humble. Phils ain't for everyone. And not everyone is for Phils.
Funny, I've lived here for almost 9 years, and I've been, on my own, to places around the country that are infinitely sleazier than the area in Malate around MBC. I've never had anything even approaching a problem. Maybe I'm lucky, or perhaps Manila, at least its seedier environs, isn't for the faint of heart and the frightened. I'm old, I'm not very big, and I'd be an easy target, I would think for the predators. Though bad luck can occur anywhere, I think knowing a bit of the local language, projecting the right attitude, and not presenting one's self as an obvious newbie all lessen the probability of trouble.
GEGE, I bet you dress much more to the local or sub-tropical attire with distinction, than to look more like how a tourist would dress. I'm sure your dress and knowledge of local language projects a sense to local taxi drivers that you are not a tourist. Just thinking that after 9 or so years that you've probably transitioned a little bit. Confidence does help project an aura of belonging within the locale.
Fast Buck Artist
03-26-12, 14:57
3. A man takes a girl to his hotel room, a SW. After the nawty, she claims she is 16, and blackmails him for a lot of piso. He's all done with filipines.Thats certainly a risk with streetwalkers, I was jailbaited with minors twice, but was wise enough to not bite the bait. Tend to prefer the bars, yes you pay more but at least you know they checked the girls IDs, and have some STD-testing routine going. Not perfect protection, but its better than nothing, when you pickup a streetwalker, who knows why she's on the street? Maybe she failed the pap smear test, maybe she's under 18, maybe she's on drugs, none of the reasons are good.
GE, I bet you dress much more to the local or sub-tropical attire with distinction
if you are white, it doesnt matter how you dress, you get instantly identified as a poriner.. even if the white person in question is born in philippines and never set foot outside, he'll still get approached with poriner pricing and poriner scams.
scams and set ups are there everywhere in the world. it is not limited to poor countries. phi is generally safe.
always make sure the girl has a i. the before you take her. i was chatting the other day with a girl from manila who said she spent few days with a foreigner. she also said altough she is 19 does not have a i. the.
i told her my hotel will not allow anybody without a i. d to go to the room. she insisted that not all hotels do it. obviously she knows the routine.
there is a certain level of safety if the security has checked the girl's i. the. at the same time if the girl tries to hit you up for money for **** scam instead of confrontation it is better say all you have is little money and ask her come back the next day for more. as soon as she leaves leaves check out of the hotel and go somewhere. it is unlikely she will file a complaint.
GoodEnough
03-26-12, 23:05
GE, I bet you dress much more to the local or sub-tropical attire with distinction, than to look more like how a tourist would dress. I'm sure your dress and knowledge of local language projects a sense to local taxi drivers that you are not a tourist. Just thinking that after 9 or so years that you've probably transitioned a little bit. Confidence does help project an aura of belonging within the locale.I always try to dress well, since I dislike shorts and tee shirts and how I look is important to me. I don't want to mislead anyone about language; I don't speak Tagalog or Visayan though I know several words and can understand a little. But I'm never confrontational, don't raise my voice and try never to appear arrogant. If a taxi driver, for example, refuses to use his meter, I don't make a fuss; I just exit the cab and look for another. I'm sure living here for all this time has had an effect on me and I probably don't get quite as upset as some foreigners with some of the absurdities of the country, because I know that this is how things are and I'm not going to be able to change anything, so while I'll talk about the dysfunctionality of several aspects of this place here on the forum, I don't verbalize my opinions publicly.
GE
Forgotten who it was, but a regular reliable reporter said in recent months, Jools in Makati is worth a visit if only for the shows.
So I visited the place and what a show it is. Starts Philippines time 10pm and goes on an off that point onwards, seemingly forever. No need to go to Vegas, its right there at Jools. Attractive girls everywhere. No pushing of drinks experience for me, no pushy girls. Thoroughly recommended. Best Makati bar, by far, for me.
Forgotten who it was, but a regular reliable reporter said in recent months, Jools in Makati is worth a visit if only for the shows.
So I visited the place and what a show it is. Starts Philippines time 10pm and goes on an off that point onwards, seemingly forever. No need to go to Vegas, its right there at Jools. Attractive girls everywhere. No pushing of drinks experience for me, no pushy girls. Thoroughly recommended. Best Makati bar, by far, for me.It was me Sxxx. Some might dispute the "reliable" tag, but I am glad you enjoyed the show too. I always take any visitors from out of town there to watch the show which has a lot of energy.
It is best to get there around 9. 30 and grab one of the couch seats either right in front or on either side of the dance floor. Up close and personal and best seats in the house.
You can actually ask your favorite show girl to have a drink with you. Just ask a waitress to go get her for you. They enjoy coming out between numbers and having a LD. A mate of mine actually befriended one and met her outside of the club but it took a lot of work and he never really got past first base.
It was me Sxxx. Some might dispute the "reliable" tag, but I am glad you enjoyed the show too. I always take any visitors from out of town there to watch the show which has a lot of energy.
It is best to get there around 9. 30 and grab one of the couch seats either right in front or on either side of the dance floor. Up close and personal and best seats in the house.
You can actually ask your favorite show girl to have a drink with you. Just ask a waitress to go get her for you. They enjoy coming out between numbers and having a LD. A mate of mine actually befriended one and met her outside of the club but it took a lot of work and he never really got past first base.Thanks Red, I really searched hard to find your original post and thus name which I could not remember, wanted to give you credit for the best tip in recent times, best for me anyway. Jools was very much the highlight of my trip. The show is excellent, but there is more to it than the show too. I too fraternised with the show girls and other girls employed there too. They were all nice girls. Visited the place on a number of occasions, such good value, karma, atmosphere, entertainment. I cannot see any place in Philippines beating what Jools has to offer. Although for a change and something downmarket, nothing beats MBC, LOL.
I met up with WR last Saturday night with his lady MF, and my lady J1. We had a very enjoyable dinner at the Savoy resto, on Kalayaan Ave, a couple of doors from Howzat.
We decided to go to Jools for the show, and got there just before 10, for the first show. As usual, great performance. So we stayed on for the next ast 11pm.
Then we were told that there was another show, at midnight, called Victoria's Secret.
It was excellent. The same troupe of dancers, with a Victoria's Secret type of presentation, full of energy, wonderful costuming.
If someone is in the vicinity this coming Saturday, maybe they could stop by to check if the midnight show is a regular event, or a one-off.
We had a great night.
G
It was me Sxxx. Some might dispute the "reliable" tag, but I am glad you enjoyed the show too. I always take any visitors from out of town there to watch the show which has a lot of energy.
It is best to get there around 9. 30 and grab one of the couch seats either right in front or on either side of the dance floor. Up close and personal and best seats in the house.
You can actually ask your favorite show girl to have a drink with you. Just ask a waitress to go get her for you. They enjoy coming out between numbers and having a LD. A mate of mine actually befriended one and met her outside of the club but it took a lot of work and he never really got past first base.
Then we were told that there was another show, at midnight, called Victoria's Secret.
It was excellent. The same troupe of dancers, with a Victoria's Secret type of presentation, full of energy, wonderful costuming.
If someone is in the vicinity this coming Saturday, maybe they could stop by to check if the midnight show is a regular event, or a one-off.It's a regular G.
The so-called "Victoria's Secret" segment has been going for quite a long time. None of these segments are ever "one-off" because of the costuming and rehearsal intensity required to get it up and running.
Mr Enternational
03-29-12, 08:07
News Report:
MANILA, Philippines—A 33-year-old cashier was stabbed dead early Thursday when he tried to stop three thieves, who were armed with knives and a water gun, from making off with the cash box of a gasoline station in Tondo, Manila, the police said.
One of the thieves allegedly used the squirt gun, loaded with an unknown liquid, to temporarily blind one of the gas station employees, allowing the assailants to flee with the cash box containing a still undetermined amount of money.
Police said Silverio Barbin Jr, cashier of the Shell Gasoline Station along Road 10, Vitas in Tondo, sustained at least four stab wounds in the head and body. He was declared dead on arrival at the Mary Johnston Hospital.
Senior Police Officer 2 Glenzor Vallejo, of the Manila Police District homicide section, said Barbin was cleaning the cashier's booth of the gas station at around 3 a. M. Thursday when the three men brandishing knives approached him and announced a hold-up Vallejo said Barbin tried to fight off the thieves, prompting one of them to repeatedly stab him. The trio then ransacked the booth and hurried to get away.
Gasoline boy Rodrigo Isod. 41, tried to stop the escape but one of the thieves drew the water gun and squirted at his eyes, temporarily blinding him. The thieves then fled on foot with the cash box, Vallejo said.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/162081/cashier-killed-as-water-gun-wielding-thieves-rob-gas-station
News Report:
MANILA, Philippines—A 33-year-old cashier was stabbed dead early Thursday when he tried to stop three thieves, who were armed with knives and a water gun, from making off with the cash box of a gasoline station in Tondo, Manila, the police said. SNIP.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/162081/cashier-killed-as-water-gun-wielding-thieves-rob-gas-stationNot sure what point you are making here Mr E by posting this article.
You should have added some explanation WHY you posted it.
It is, after all, in Tondo, which is a part of Manila that very few tourists, and certainly residents like me, would very rarely visit, if ever, so we are not likely to be at risk.
You could have also sourced at least 3 other articles in the same newspaper that are equally "scary". Such is daily news in Manila.
My local mall, Robinson's Galleria, was just this morning closed until early afternoon after a grenade was exploded and numerous shots fired by guys trying to rob an armoured van courier just before the mall opened. Bystanders waiting to enter the mall were injured.
Not sure what point you are making here Mr E by posting this article.
You should have added some explanation WHY you posted it.
It is, after all, in Tondo, which is a part of Manila that very few tourists, and certainly residents like me, would very rarely visit, if ever, so we are not likely to be at risk.
You could have also sourced at least 3 other articles in the same newspaper that are equally "scary". Such is daily news in Manila.
My local mall, Robinson's Galleria, was just this morning closed until early afternoon after a grenade was exploded and numerous shots fired by guys trying to rob an armoured van courier just before the mall opened. Bystanders waiting to enter the mall were injured.As I read your response, RK, I was reminded of the questions I've been asked frequently on several journeys through the hinterlands of Mindanao."Aren't you afraid to travel here?" My answer is that I feel safer here than I would traveling around Manila!
Cunning Stunt
03-30-12, 04:49
Another graduate of the CS School of Sexual Excellence has asked for help. If there are any discrete and established members in town who would like to meet a fresh, sweet, frisky, young playmate, PM me. This girl is only available for a limited time so if you are not in Manila before the end of April, please don't waste my time.
Well, Finally, the truth is coming out, Manila Bay Cafe (la cafe) was promoted insanely in all online forums as some sort of heaven on earth. Not withstanding the crime, girls and everything in between. Malate area should be the last place a monger should visit in Manila. There was a serial propaganda of sorts to promote Manila Bay Cafe in these forums. I'm from a third world country and even I was scared visiting malate and I have seen worse areas in my life back home. I never understood why mongers from west would visit such a dangerous place.
The most corrupt taxi drivers, the most aggressive beggars, the most dangerous criminals, the most dirtiest place, the most despo girls, the most corrupt cops of all places are in the malate area. Even local Filipinos don't go there. There are far better places in manila to get laid than Malate. Its been promoted unnecessarily in forums by the owner cohorts to keep the business going.Starchild,
I couldn't help but chuckle at how true the adage 'one man's meat is another man's poison' is.
You've just described the exact same reasons why I love playing in Malate. Same reasons why I enjoy Kota in Jakarta or the backstreet BBS villages of anywhere, China.
The grass is always greener on the other side isn't it? If that's the case for you and if you're from a third world country and choose to P4P in Manila, why not just stick to the 5-star international hotel bars or mall bars in Makati or the big KTV showbars in Quezon City?
As I read your response, RK, I was reminded of the questions I've been asked frequently on several journeys through the hinterlands of Mindanao."Aren't you afraid to travel here?" My answer is that I feel safer here than I would traveling around Manila!I don't think there is much value in trying to evaluate relative areas of safety anywhere in the Philippines Questor, as the incident in Robinson's Galleria shows.
For me, that area outside Robinson's would be the LAST place I would expect a heist to be attempted, given that there are 100s of people, cars, jeepneys around at that time. Nevertheless, they got away and nobody saw much. You just cannot predict where some crazies will strike.
Just 2 years ago, the HSBC next to Discovery Suites in Ortigas Center was hit, and again, it is a very well guarded and central place, and options for getaways are few.
My modus operandi is to be careful everywhere at ALL times and especially when I walk anywhere near those armoured vans parked outside banks and other establishments with mean looking guys with big-assed guns standing around with fingers on the trigger. We foreigners have been taught to hit the ground as soon as you hear anything because random shooting always hits bystanders. Unfortunately, pinoys either run like headless chickens in circles around any fracas or, for the inquisitive ones, they run towards the incident to see what's going on.
Stroker Ace88
03-31-12, 00:04
[SNIP]My modus operandi is to be careful everywhere at ALL times and especially when I walk anywhere near those armoured vans parked outside banks and other establishments with mean looking guys with big-assed guns standing around with fingers on the trigger. We foreigners have been taught to hit the ground as soon as you hear anything because random shooting always hits bystanders. Unfortunately, pinoys either run like headless chickens in circles around any fracas or, for the inquisitive ones, they run towards the incident to see what's going on.Red Kilt you made me LMAO with your last sentence that I spit out some of the corona I was drinking! Hilariously funny comment but also spot on. Good one.
Another graduate of the CS School of Sexual Excellence has asked for help. If there are any discrete and established members in town who would like to meet a fresh, sweet, frisky, young playmate, PM me. This girl is only available for a limited time so if you are not in Manila before the end of April, please don't waste my time.CS,
Yes I arrive April 18. Nice girl there, could you send a pm.
Related. I have my own school girl uniform and toys. Leather, costumes, edible panties, etc. But I had a related question. Are handcuffs and snaprings allowed in packed baggage. I can't find a yes or no.
Anyone know?
Thanks.
Poolmover.
And yes, I'm bringing the camera.
CS,
Yes I arrive April 18. Nice girl there, could you send a pm.
Related. I have my own school girl uniform and toys. Leather, costumes, edible panties, etc. But I had a related question. Are handcuffs and snaprings allowed in packed baggage. I can't find a yes or no.
Anyone know?
Thanks.
Poolmover.
And yes, I'm bringing the camera.I would thinks twice before bringing in handcuffs. Just buy them in phils.
Cunning Stunt
03-31-12, 16:06
Related. I have my own school girl uniform and toys. Leather, costumes, edible panties, etc. But I had a related question. Are handcuffs and snaprings allowed in packed baggage. I can't find a yes or no.I have spoken to her and she insists that you must bring a gorilla suit (for you to wear, not her!). She apparently has a King Kong fantasy in mind.
Oh, and the edible panties have to be barbecue chicken flavor.
Have read several posts regarding problems traveling with Filipinas and thought I would add my recent experience. This month I was taking a 21 year old Filipina with me to Hong Kong. I had business there for a week and then was going to treat her to her 'dream' of seeing Disneyland for a day. I met her online about 2 years ago and have gone on several trips with her in the Philippines over that time. She is a 3rd year HRM student.
She flew to Manila from Leyte and we stayed one night in Manila before leaving on an early morning Cebu Pacific flight to Hong Kong. She had copies flight reservations, hotel reservations and I had made sure that both of our names were on the reservations. I had also given her $500 US. 1,000 Hong Kong, and 5, 000 Philippine in case they asked her for show money. She had her student I'd with her.
The older woman immigration officer called a supervisor over and they took her to a room of to the side with 3 desks and a few chairs. There was another immigration woman at a podium half way between the immigration counters and security. I was waiting near her wondering what to do. Wasn't sure if it would make it better or worse if I followed my companion uninvited into the room. After about a minute the woman near the podium asked me if she was my girl friend and said I should go there with her.
In the room was a single male officer examining another male Filipino. This went on for more than 30 minutes while we were just sitting there. I was getting concerned about missing the flight. There was a Cebu Pacific person who poked his head in a few times. Seemed he was tracking us. At one point I told him I was concerned about getting to the gate in time. He said that we were still all right.
After waiting 40 minutes, and now 20 minutes before the flight departure, the woman by the podium came in the room and began questioning my companion. The immigration officer then asked me a few questions about how we met and how often we had seen each other. She then said that I need to sign an affidavit about support and my companion's return to the Philippines. She stressed that I should read it before signing. I told her I couldn't agree with one item since I wouldn't be returning to the Philippines after Hong Kong. She crossed that out and initialed it and I signed the document. She then said that they would be tracking the both of us.
We quickly headed to security and just as we cleared they were paging us for the flight. All is well that ends well, but after some horror stories I read about their holding people back, I was definitely on edge while we were waiting.
We arrived at Terminal 3 about 2 hours before the 05:40 flight. If I ever take anyone out of the Philippines again, I will get there at least 3 hours prior.
She then said that I need to sign an affidavit about support and my companion's return to the Philippines.That sounds like an improvement, and perhaps a work-around for all parties. PI Immigration can say they did their part, and they have the name of someone to vouch for the girls behavior-which most all of us would be glad to do. Maybe we can be pro-active and find this document online, and have it ready to present to them.
OTOH, the "affidavit of support" that the US has you sign for incoming fiance's implies you will provide financial support for the girl, even if she skips out on you.
This issue of getting pinay out of the country is a bureaucratic matter. So the key is to think like a bureaucrat. Who are not good at making decisions, need documentation to support all of their decisions, and who need to always cover theit ass. So I make it easy for them to make the decision.
Over the past 10 years or so, I have taken maybe half a dozen pinay out of the Phils for various periods of time, from a few days to a year.
For every one, I make a formal statement of support, in which I say who I am, my passport number, how we met, how long we have been together. I say that I undertake to provide her with accommodation, food, transportation, and all living expenses, and that I undertake to ensure that she returns home before her visa expires.
If I am in Australia, I write this on a Statutory Declaration, signed by a Justice of the Peace. If I am in the Phils, I write it as an affidavit, signed by a Notary Public. Elsewhere, such as Singapore, or Malaysia, I use the corresponding formal document.
I give it to the woman. If I am not there with her, I send it both as a scanned document, so that it has the colours, and also as a fax. Fax is important, because it cannot be digitally altered like a scan.
This has always worked, whether I am with her or not.
G
That sounds like an improvement, and perhaps a work-around for all parties. PI Immigration can say they did their part, and they have the name of someone to vouch for the girls behavior-which most all of us would be glad to do. Maybe we can be pro-active and find this document online, and have it ready to present to them.
OTOH, the "affidavit of support" that the US has you sign for incoming fiance's implies you will provide financial support for the girl, even if she skips out on you.
Have read several posts regarding problems traveling with Filipinas and thought I would add my recent experience. This month I was taking a 21 year old Filipina with me to Hong Kong. I had business there for a week and then was going to treat her to her 'dream' of seeing Disneyland for a day. I met her online about 2 years ago and have gone on several trips with her in the Philippines over that time. She is a 3rd year HRM student.
She flew to Manila from Leyte and we stayed one night in Manila before leaving on an early morning Cebu Pacific flight to Hong Kong. She had copies flight reservations, hotel reservations and I had made sure that both of our names were on the reservations. I had also given her $500 US. 1,000 Hong Kong, and 5, 000 Philippine in case they asked her for show money. She had her student I'd with her.
The older woman immigration officer called a supervisor over and they took her to a room of to the side with 3 desks and a few chairs. There was another immigration woman at a podium half way between the immigration counters and security. I was waiting near her wondering what to do. Wasn't sure if it would make it better or worse if I followed my companion uninvited into the room. After about a minute the woman near the podium asked me if she was my girl friend and said I should go there with her.
In the room was a single male officer examining another male Filipino. This went on for more than 30 minutes while we were just sitting there. I was getting concerned about missing the flight. There was a Cebu Pacific person who poked his head in a few times. Seemed he was tracking us. At one point I told him I was concerned about getting to the gate in time. He said that we were still all right.
After waiting 40 minutes, and now 20 minutes before the flight departure, the woman by the podium came in the room and began questioning my companion. The immigration officer then asked me a few questions about how we met and how often we had seen each other. She then said that I need to sign an affidavit about support and my companion's return to the Philippines. She stressed that I should read it before signing. I told her I couldn't agree with one item since I wouldn't be returning to the Philippines after Hong Kong. She crossed that out and initialed it and I signed the document. She then said that they would be tracking the both of us.
We quickly headed to security and just as we cleared they were paging us for the flight. All is well that ends well, but after some horror stories I read about their holding people back, I was definitely on edge while we were waiting.
We arrived at Terminal 3 about 2 hours before the 05:40 flight. If I ever take anyone out of the Philippines again, I will get there at least 3 hours prior.Sounds good but what would have happened if they did have the time to question both of you more thorough. My friend that married a Viet recently was interviewed in the embassy there and while they were separated silly question like what is his / her fav color, what toothpaste you use and so on were asked. If the same happened and some pressure was put on the girl hm, what do you think would have happened? I prefer flying them in, not accompanying them but that may be just me being a bit paranoid.
I totally embarrassed myself way back when I married my Pinay wife on a fiance visa. I was in the USA military and after the wedding we went to get her official military I_D card. I was asked her eye color and totally blanked out. :eek:
I had stared into eyes many times and just could not remember the color. The clerk just laughed but the new wife was not impressed.
Slim
Good point. As I mentioned before, I wasn't sure if it were best that I go with her into the room or just keep going through security and effectively not be with her. To some extent the interviewer did separate us as the woman talked to the girl in Tagalog and to me in English.
Over the past 10 years or so, I have taken maybe half a dozen pinay out of the Phils for various periods of time, from a few days to a year.
GSeen how many GF you have helped to cross the border, they might have a book with your name where to file all your affidavit.
I have spoken to her and she insists that you must bring a gorilla suit (for you to wear, not her!). She apparently has a King Kong fantasy in mind.
Oh, and the edible panties have to be barbecue chicken flavor.Great idea. Kingkonddong. Com think I'll godaddy that one, ha.
Thanks
When in Rome (or leaving Rome Immigration) , do as the Romans. Give some bola bola bs. After being seperated, whisper to your interrogator,"this is really special, I'm goind to propose to her at (some cool spot in the country of destination). I'm not a good liar, so not sure I'll take my own advice. Interesting thread.
Good point. As I mentioned before, I wasn't sure if it were best that I go with her into the room or just keep going through security and effectively not be with her. To some extent the interviewer did separate us as the woman talked to the girl in Tagalog and to me in English.
I totally embarrassed myself way back when I married my Pinay wife on a fiance visa. I was in the USA military and after the wedding we went to get her official military I_D card. I was asked her eye color and totally blanked out. .
I had stared into eyes many times and just could not remember the color. The clerk just laughed but the new wife was not impressed.
SlimDon't they all have black or brown eyes?
Don't they all have black or brown eyes?Maybe. All I remember is most are dark. Don't see many blue or green.
I guessed and said black, WRONG.
Slim
Maybe. All I remember is most are dark. Don't see many blue or green.
I guessed and said black, WRONG.
SlimWhen you look close even black eyes are actually brown. So brown is a safe bet. Unless the girl in question is a mixed breed it is highly unlikely Phi girls have green, blue, hazel eyes. Having said that I have been with a blonde girl with blue eyes. Her father was from USA and mother was a Phi. Abandoned by both she said brought up by her grandmother. I told her if she is self conscious to dye her hair black to fit in. Blue eyes were not really pronounced.
Only visible on close inspection. She does stand out as a blond and hated it. Would fit right in if she got out of Phi. Not a real pretty girl by the way.
For those who are in Manila or have been in Manila during the Holy Week (Palm Sunday to Good Friday) , hows the bar scene around MBC or EDSA? Is it pretty dead?
Haven't posted in a while and I have a lot to update. The reason I haven't posted for now is two-fold, one, I had a non-monger friendly travel companion, and two, I got ill in Manila and am only now back on my feet, as well as back in the US. Due to my health problem (an infected arm) , I hadn't been able to type that well.
Anyway, to recount, I was visiting Manila at the end of January and had my first Asian monger experiences. Initially, my Manila trip was a side excursion during my business trip to Hong Kong, but as it happened, it turned into a 3 week vacation and then a hospital stay. It turned out my brother-in-law's elderly aunt (who is Filipina) was visiting Davao and wanted someone to escort her back to Manila and then the US, and I volunteered. After my two mongering adventures, I was off to Davao where although I didn't monger, I did get to see some neat things (such as a Japanese WWII tunnel, an ecological retreat in the mountains where it was nice and cool, and the Philippine eagle sanctuary). We also ate at a restaurant at Jack's Ridge overlooking Davao (note: IMHO food isn't that good) , and we really should have gone to Claude's. We stayed at the Tropika in Davao, but I don't think this would be a girl-friendly establishment.
On returning from Davao, we checked into the City Garden in Ermita. Although it was two separate rooms, I didn't want to bring any takeout companions back to the hotel in case my aunt-in-law caught me in the walk of shame or in the elevator. Also, I was somewhat limited in my opportunities to get out to the Manila Bay Cafe or any other venue, however, I found my chance when my elderly traveling companion had some friends pick her up for church and then took her back to their house.
So, on Sunday February 12, I found myself at Manila Bay Cafe about 3pm. Note. It's kind of an interesting walk along Mabini, first the money changers, then the begging kids, then the touts and the Viagra sellers. One side street (del pillar) made me a little uncomfortable; I'd love to have a wingman next time. Anyway, it wasn't too busy at the MBC, so in the interest of exploration, I wandered up the block to Amazonia. Big mistake. A couple of older uglies approached me and were quite persistent and took me a while to duck them. I didn't see any attractive girls (other than a couple of servers) , so after one San Mig, I headed back to MBC.
It was fairly busy but I got a seat along the back wall facing the bar. There were a few good lookers and some ordinary 5's, and a couple of older women. I talked to a couple of the better looking ones and discovered they were in the mid 20s age wise. Funny how my scale has changed, a couple of weeks earlier I would have said they were all 7 or 8's, all under 23 but I am starting to judge filipina's ages better and be more critical rating looks. The ones that a couple of weeks ago, I would have rated 7-8 actually look more like 5 or 6. I guess it's like when you haven't had beer for a while, the first beer you drink is the best one you ever had, later you realize that brand isn't really that special anyway. Anyway, I ended up agreeing for a ST with a semi attractive 25 why / o for 1000. Worth noting that my standards for this assignment were somewhat lower since I didn't have much time and also had been trapped in Davao with lots of good looking women around but unable to do anything because of my elderly companion.
Anyway, my new found temporary date said there were rooms at the Amazonia so off we went. It was raining, and one old woman on the street insisted on lending her umbrella for the walk. Of course, tip was demanded. On arrival at the Amazonia, the doorman and the guard (who remembered me from earlier) gave me winks and a thumbs up as I brought my honey in. Upstairs we went where they have a female room clerk behind a desk. My girl obviously knew the room clerk as few words were spoken as I handed over the money (I think it was 400p) and we got a key. No registration necessary. Into the room in the middle of a maze somewhere. It was a small interior room with a barely functional TV, a small bathroom with two very small towels, a twin bed, no AC, a ceiling fan, and a huge dead cockroach. We both showered (not together, not enough room) and used up the single package of shampoo, and then got down to the bed.
Partially because of the venue, and partially because my selected date didn't seem as friendly as my two previous ones, my experience wasn't that good. I like conversation, some playing, some GFE action etc, before the main event, but in this case things were somewhat mechanical, and although I achieved my happy ending with her riding on top, it wasn't the best. Anyway, I left her with the 1000 and another 200 tip and back to my hotel so I could get cleaned up while waiting for my brother-in-law's aunt (lets call her my aunt-in-law).
My aunt-in-lay and myself spent the next week doing some more site seeing (like riding horses up to the the Taal volcano in Talisay, seeing Intramuros as well as a trip to Subic Bay). Again, it was actually a little frustrating for me, playing assistant to my aunt-in- law, a really nice lady, but I couldn't really explain to her that all I really wanted to do was boink the pretty Filipinas that are all over. Observation: its somewhat difficult having breakfast at your hotel when all the old guys my age seem to have beautiful 18 why / o breakfast companions. Where do they find them?
On a hypocritical note, My aunt-in-law was saying how disgusting it was, and I agreed with her, only the reason I was disgusted was because it wasn't me with the 18y / o.
Anyway, next Sunday, I was back at the City Garden Hotel in Ermita and thankfully, my aunt-in-law was again going to church and then out with her friend's so back to MBC I went. Interestingly, walking down Mabini, I was intercepted by a man saying he was a security guard at my hotel. I ignored him and walked on. Got to MBC about 6pm, and it was pretty crowded. I ended up getting seated at the back of the pool table room, where there weren't any potential women at all. Once I had my beer in hand, I headed to the front room and started chatting with a guy at the bar until a seat at the bar opened up. Although a fair number of women, I didn't see any really young (under 24) and didn't see any really good looking ones. Again, it was a similar situation as the previous Sunday, where I didn't have much time, but did have a great hunger for some female companionship.
Eventually I caught the eye of a reasonably attractive woman, Joy and we talked for a short time. I would have said she was about 22 why / o but as before, I was way under the mark. She said she was 26. Anyway we agreed on ST for 1500p and off we went. Interesting, unlike the first time at MBC were my date insisted we leave separately, this one and the previous one had no such restriction. Joy suggested the nearby SOGO and said we had to taxi to it. Outside MBC, ignoring all previous warnings on this board, I got sucked into paying a 300p taxi fare for a 50p (if that) ride. What happened was there was an old woman outside (maybe even the umbrella woman from previous week) who flagged down a taxi. As my big brain was bereft of blood thanks to the little brain's demands, I blindly got into the taxi with Joy. Of course the woman demanded a tip for the service. So distracted was I that I didn't even notice that the meter wasn't running. We pulled up outside the SOGO where the driver demands the 300p. I argued for a bit, but I didn't understand what he was saying and the security guard from SOGO was standing at the car door, so I decided to suck it up and pay up. Lesson learned (I hope). I asked Joy if she knew about this setup before, and she disavowed all knowledge (yeah. Right). Anyway we went in, and there was a half hour wait for a regular room, but we could have a deluxe room with AC for more (I think it was 500p). On the way up, Joy was given a package with some sheets and towels. In the room we go, where Joy puts the sheets on the rubber mattress and I have a shower (again, not really enough room for two) , then its her turn for the shower. While that was happening I watched TV for a bit, and mused about the TV remote that was attached to a long cable to deter theft.
This time, it was a bit more of a GF type of experience, I got a massage and some oral type action, before I decided it was showtime. Afterwards, we talked for a bit and went out dropping the key at the window by the stairs on the way out. I can only wonder what the hotel management must think of this procession of mongers and their dates.
So that was my last mongering experience. The next day, I woke up in the hotel room with some a very sore and inflamed right arm. By mid afternoon, it was quite swollen and hot, so I ended up going to the Manila Doctors Hospital not far from the hotel. Turned out I had to go on antibiotics right away and be monitored in hospital for a couple of days. They thought it was some kind of insect bite that had gotten infected and caused blood poisoning. Anyway, I was quite impressed by the hospital. One very nice thing, I was texted by Jennalyn, one of my first dates, and when I told her I was in hospital, she came and visited me and brought me a package of sky flakes (odd thing to bring, but the idea was nice).
After getting out of hospital, I recovered for a day in the hotel and back to the US via Hong Kong and a long, uncomfortable 15 hour flight to New York. It took a couple of weeks of being back before I actually felt human again, although part of the reason is the jet lag. For some reason it was a lot worse coming back than going.
So, I am back at work, and have been somewhat hesitant to finish this post, because it means that I have to go on the ISG site and look at the Manila posts and read about how much fun you guys are having there while I am stuck in Northeastern prudish, sex-less US.
Overall, my impressions of the Philippines are mixed. It's a very dysfunctional society, and many things we take for granted here in the US don't exist, however, I very much miss the girls, not just because of the sex and because they seem to do well at pretending they care for their men clients, but because they seem so accepting of who we are (I guess the money helps.). I miss the low prices for some things, for example, taxi rates are extremely reasonable (I don't know how the drivers can afford to drive a taxi with fuel prices being what they are) , .
I do plan on going back as often as I can, if I can surmount a couple of problems. One, I have a full time girlfriend here in the US and I would have to be very creative about the excuses I make. Note, some may ask why I need to go to RP for mongering if I have a GF at home, but it has something to do with the fact that I only get laid a couple of times a year and that she is as old as me. Second problem is money. I would love to be able to hop on a plane every couple of months, but can't do it. I'll aim for once a year, if I can overcome problem 1 (note: now taking suggestions for good excuses).
Once I get through the acceptance phase of my return to US (the one that recognises that my sex life is going to be boring again for the next few months) , I'll get back to regular reading of this forum.
I can't imagine anyone going to the Philippines as a tourist unless motivated by the same things we are, the inconveniences to travel are too much and no one seems to get it. For example, on arriving back at the Cebu Pacific terminal at MIAA, we lined up to get an airport taxi. The line up was quite long, both of would be passengers and of taxis, but only one taxi was being boarded at a time, a lengthy process due to the fact that someone had to write the taxi plate down on a piece of paper and clipboard before passengers were allowed to board, then the taxi could drive away and another could replace it at the boarding spot. Surely a more efficient way would have been to allow two or three taxis to load while the paperwork is being completed. Anyway, this is the wrong forum for this, but I do find that the Philippines could do a lot more to make the tourist experience pleasurable for other than us mongers.
That's it for now, I apologise for taking so long to post it. Anyway while you guys are enjoying your female companionship, I'll be reading your posts and enjoying things vicariously, till I back in the Philippines.
I'm Punter, nice report!
As an aside, the jet lag is always worse going one way than the other but I don't recall the exact scientific reason for this. And, your girl should have watched out for you with regards to the taxi. One of my pickups certainly did!
Thanks for your field report.
Can I strongly suggest that you pay your dues to Jackson so that other forum members can send you PMs.
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Haven't posted in a while and I have a lot to update. The reason I haven't posted for now is two-fold, one, I had a non-monger friendly travel companion, and two, I got ill in Manila and am only now back on my feet, as well as back in the US. Due to my health problem (an infected arm) , I hadn't been able to type that well.
Anyway, to recount, I was visiting Manila at the end of January and had my first Asian monger experiences. Initially, my Manila trip was a side excursion during my business trip to Hong Kong...
Kuya Arikis
04-09-12, 03:38
Preparing for my trip and was wondering if there were any good spots to buy enhancements near MBC. I realize the streets are littered with folks peddling the supposed stuff, but assume that is all fake. Can you get it at Mercury drug? Any help with this is greatly appreciated.
Preparing for my trip and was wondering if there were any good spots to buy enhancements near MBC. I realize the streets are littered with folks peddling the supposed stuff, but assume that is all fake. Can you get it at Mercury drug? Any help with this is greatly appreciated.Hello, Kuya Ok I've lived in this area Ermita on Adriatico Street for 42 months. I've bought lots of Cialis from a certain person all of this time. Never ripped off or got inferior product. I was introduceded to him by my brother who's delt with him for years. His name is "George"hangs out at 7/11 on corner of Padre Farve and Adriatico. Last bought from him. Box of 4 Cialis php 150, so 10 boxes 40 pills p1500. He likes to sell volume so get that price. Don't know what price is for less than 10. Buy in confidence as no problem. Later Lew good luck.
Moon Shine 44
04-10-12, 05:20
I bought 4 pills of 100mg of Viagra at Mercury drugs near MBC before. Though the pharmacists asked if I used Viagra at that amount before and told me I needed to show a prescription next time.
Preparing for my trip and was wondering if there were any good spots to buy enhancements near MBC. I realize the streets are littered with folks peddling the supposed stuff, but assume that is all fake. Can you get it at Mercury drug? Any help with this is greatly appreciated.
Hello, Kuya Ok I've lived in this area Ermita on Adriatico Street for 42 months. I've bought lots of Cialis from a certain person all of this time. Never ripped off or got inferior product. I was introduceded to him by my brother who's delt with him for years. His name is "George"hangs out at 7/11 on corner of Padre Farve and Adriatico. Last bought from him. Box of 4 Cialis php 150, so 10 boxes 40 pills p1500. He likes to sell volume so get that price. Don't know what price is for less than 10. Buy in confidence as no problem. Later Lew good luck.Correction : Padre Faura and Adriatico.
You won't find Farve, LOL.
Soapy Smith
04-10-12, 18:30
i searched the forum and found some discussion in the dating site thread with radoboy and freebie fan from last july, but nothing more recent about this.
my squeeze has a sun broadband usb aircard, uses it with a toshiba netbook, and buys load for a few days at a time. in the states i have a phone line 'hi-speed' dsl connection, and we've been skyping for several years. lately the connection has been almost useless: picture only (or voice and chat only) , fuzzy picture, frame freeze, periods of no voice, extraneous noise, repeated dropped calls and typically 10 to 15 minutes just to make the initial connection. other possible explanations: my provider, skype, or transmission dead spot at her end (malabon city). but i have mentally ruled out these other explanations since i don't have these problems in connections to korea, china, or taiwan, and, with her transmitting from the same location, the service was much better in the past. in the past we've often found her aircard signal was better than some hotel wifi systems. or, assuming sun uses cell phone towers for their signal, maybe they've simply sold too much access to their system over time so that nobody is getting good broadband service now.
so, what broadband systems are some of the expat regulars using successfully in metro manila, and at what cost? all advice and other diagnoses of our problem appreciated.
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my squeeze has a sun broadband usb aircard, uses it with a toshiba netbook, and buys load for a few days at a time. in the states i have a phone line 'hi-speed' dsl connection, and we've been skyping for several years.
all advice and other diagnoses of our problem appreciated.standard troubleshooting methodology: you need to eliminate possibilities. i would start by having her go to a couple of internet cafes with webcams. if those work successfully you know the problem is not on your end or with philippines internet in general. next i would go to a sun office and have them try to establish a connection with a different aircard. that will show if the problem is in the card / netbook or the sun system and the person in the office may be able to help with solutions depending on where the problem is.
GoodEnough
04-10-12, 22:50
I don't purport to be any sort of IT expert, but I imagine that the problem is the quality of service here. We've been experiencing frequent, albeit intermittent problems with our net connections for months. I'm told that one of the (many) problems here is that there's really one one Internet carrier, and that's PLDT, which owns SMART and perhaps Sun. All other companies buy their bandwidth from SMART. Another problem, as I see it, is that virtually all of the carriers agressively seek to expand the number of subscribers, both pre and post-paid, but do not make investments in increasing the capabilities of their infrastructure commensurate with the expanding subscriber base. Combine that with lackluster systems management, woefully inexperienced technical support personnel and indifference to the provision of decent service and you get. The Philippines.
GE
GosiwonBusan
04-11-12, 02:42
I am looking for some advice or confirmation.
My flight leaves Manila very early in the morning. So after checking out of my hotel I want to store (or check in) my bag then goto the ringside bar. Is there a bag storage area at Manila? Then I guess I can get a taxi to ringside.
Thanks
Or, assuming Sun uses cell phone towers for their signal, maybe they've simply sold too much access to their system over time so that nobody is getting good broadband service now.I think that therein lies the problem with Sun. They are very very cheap so they sell heaps of low cost cards etc and their capacity is quickly exceeded. It varies because they have silly promos and everyone jumps on the system to avail of the freebies.
For me to send an SMS to a Sun number using either my Globe or Smart numbers I almost always have "failed" message and need to resend 3 or 4 times before the SMS (text) goes through.
FreebieFan
04-11-12, 05:27
Ok so I've had a nice break from this board (more on this later) , but as I recently had a few days in Manila, thought would throw in my trip report.
First though some Manila observations. I'm not resident there, therefor when I go there, I have a heightened sense of perception.
1. More and more and more Koreans everywhere these days. No longer just in Makati, but all over Fort Bonifacio etc. They are taking over. And people get scared to challenge them as they al have their "padrinos" top solve any problems.
2. People are getting fatter. When you are short, and then get fat, its a bad situation. Saw some horribly overweight people particularly the ladies in malls etc. Chubby aint hot, honey.
3. Traffic. It was a total delight to drive in Manila over the Easter weekend. No MMDA around. Drove from Dusit to Sogo near Edsa Entertainment center in 10 minutes only. Easter is THE time to drive in Manila. Its like a good dream.
Ok, to the report.
On last trip had met a 18 year old girl who gave up her virginity. Lives outside Manila but happily took a 90 minute trip to meet me. This was a repeat meeting where she wasnt nervous at all. She arrived on time at 9am and stayed till 5. She's happy and wiling to do all, which means lots of sex, got her covered in ice cream, endless pics and vids etc. She even bought her college uniform for a nice fantasy scene. We spent lots of time in my place, then ventured to Sogo for a change of scenery. She gave up most of her ass too. Was all good and fun and truly a great start to the weekend.
So having had my fill of female flesh I gave myself a break and waited for the next gal on the menu. 19, also a repeat. With no traffic she was an hour early! Anyways we had a nice night drinking, and ended up having sex on the balcony at home. Wasnt sure I could make it after my earlier excesses, but it all worked out great.
I've found that if you get a girl on a balcony, give her a drink, nakedness will often occur. She had a bit of a crying fit when she revealed that she had seen the pics of my FB friends, and that two of them were showing pics of themself in my condo."please honey I'm begging you, be faithful to me only.". Sorry, baby, I'm here to screw as much and as often as I can. Dropped her off after breakfast to continue the adventure.
Next up was another girl from a previous trip. I thought she had forgotten me, as she had gone missing for a few weeks, but it turns out she had typhoid and was in hospital for 3 weeks. My plan was to have 3-4 hours with her, then to meet a cute cute 19 year old who was sending all the right signals, and who was new, not a repeat.
The girl I was with, was 21, 39 kgs, has a 20 inch waist. She loves wearing high heels so I have some great pics of her standing, showing her very nice ass, in her heels. Anyways after two hours of being with this very pleasant lady she asks " freebie, can I stay with you tonight?". Hmm tough question lady. Meanwhile, the planned evening date wasnt replying.
So eventually I let the one I'm with stay, and figured I could postpone the 19 year if and when she replied.
We go out drinking, as once again, many hours of continuous sex was taking its toll on the energy levels. Once again we ended up on the balcony, once again, the clothes came off. And once again, I rose the ocassion.
She was dropped off after breakfast.
Took a trip to cinema square to stock up on dvds and met the next one. A lovely lady who I see on all my manila trips. Great rack, sweet lips, sweet soft voice and a pleasure to be with. She's never asked for anything from me, except ocassionally to be allowed to take some of my old dvds. Girl with a great heart and a tough life. Got her in a bikini, placed her on the dining table and let the rack shine through. ! Bonking followed. She stayed from 12 to 6pm.
After that headed to Howzat for a few beers with Red Kilt. Always good to see you Sir.
Played with phone trying to set up an evening date but the 4 girls that were on my radar were all in some far flung province. No matter, can't overestimate the value of a good nights sleep (alone) sometimes.
The ex virign was on the menu next morning. She arrived fighting fit at 9am, knowing she could only stay for a few hours. She was wearing tiny shorts (called pekpek shorts) and high heels and looked like a sweet young girl. We went at it for a few hours then she got dropped off.
After dropping her I finally got to meet a new girl. 4ft 11, small but nice bod in tight white t shirt. We get to my place and we both knew what would happen. She had told me that she hadn't shaved and was letting me do that. No need for a second invite. She got shaved.
A few mins later, as I'm heading for the hole, I notice blood."Honey you have a period.!"" Settled for a nice hand / blow from her, and that was that.
A few fantastic encounters with some super lovely ladies.
Having had a good break from the board, I realise that its value to me, depends on the interactions as they occur here.
Having had the likes of 50 Nonsense, BeaverandButthead and Chocominger all make their fine and so valuable contributions recently, I realise life is better with periodic trips to the board. So if any of the above fine and fantastic fellows want to make a rebuttal, don't waste your time, fools, as I'm not going to be here very often.
Reading the infantile posturings of some sad lost souls, as you are, doesn't fit on my schedule.
Oh, and the medical operation to which you referrred was one that ultimately saved my life. I wouldn't wish cancer on anyone, not even you fine fellows with your oh so refined sense of humour. The law of Karma will get you one day. And I truly hope its soon.
I am looking for some advice or confirmation.
My flight leaves Manila very early in the morning. So after checking out of my hotel I want to store (or check in) my bag then goto the ringside bar. Is there a bag storage area at Manila? Then I guess I can get a taxi to ringside.
ThanksAll or most hotels allow you to keep the baggage after check out. Just give the bellboy a tip.
Screaming Beaver
04-11-12, 21:00
ok, to the report.
on last trip had met a 18 year old girl who gave up her virginity.
she gave up most of her ass too. was all good and fun and truly a great start to the weekend.
ended up having sex on the balcony at home. wasnt sure i could make it, but it all worked out great.
we go out drinking, as once again, many hours of continuous sex was taking its toll on the energy levels. once again we ended up on the balcony, once again, the clothes came off. and once again, i rose the ocassion.
got her in a bikini, placed her on the dining table and let the rack shine through. ! bonking followed. she stayed from 12 to 6pm.
the ex virign was on the menu next morning. we went at it for a few hours then she got dropped off.
after dropping her i finally got to meet a new girl. she had told me that she hadn't shaved and was letting me do that. no need for a second invite. she got shaved.
a few fantastic encounters with some super lovely ladies.
oh, and the medical operation to which you referrred was one that ultimately saved my life.penile implants have come a long way since freebie was fitted with his tool. however, there really is no substitute for the real thing. yes, it is true the man can pump up his tool at a moment's notice which technically does allow them to have multiple sex acts per day. unfortunately the woman has the sensation of getting fucked by a small loofah sponge and is not able to achieve orgasm without the aid of dildos, butt plugs and licking of the beaver. in addition, the sex act for the man is underwhelming at best with any attempt to produce the classic 'money shot' results in an awkward and embarrassing finish for both parties.
much as been written about the epidemic of naïve patients who willingly gave up their prostates just because some urologist said it was the right thing to do. it turns out the medical test used to facilitate the removal of these vital organs was completely flawed. as a result, the medical community has admitted to this mistake and no longer even administers the psa test to patients since the data now proves the removal of these prostates have not offered any statistical improvement in survival. how do you tell that to some poor bastard who is now left with an inflatable penile implant and a pair of [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131).
Soapy Smith
04-12-12, 07:11
It turns out the medical test used to facilitate the removal of these vital organs was completely flawed. As a result, the medical community has admitted to this mistake and no longer even administers the PSA test to patients since the data now proves the removal of these prostates have not offered any statistical improvement in survival.How many inaccurate statements do we find in this short passage? First, assuming that "the medical test used to facilitate the removal of these vital organs" refers to PSA screening, you would be incorrect in asserting that the PSA "facilitates the removal" of any organ. PSA tests were routinely followed by a biopsy of prostate material. Having experienced it three times, I can report that it involves sticking a gun-like instrument into the rectum and extracting about ten tissue samples from different parts of the prostate. Being stuck by the anesthesia syringe hurts more than the tissue extractions. Only an idiot doctor and an ignorant patient would jump from elevated PSA score to prostate removal without a tissue biopsy as an intermediate step.
Second, the medical community has not entirely accepted that PSA tests are useless. There is, in fact, a heated controversy, since some practitioners continue to believe that the PSA is a useful indicator-which should be followed by a tissue biopsy. Are there strong voices arguing that the PSA is an unreliable test? Yes. But your statement that the medical community "no longer even administers the PSA test" is inaccurate.
Third, the issue of inaccuracy in the PSA test and the question of whether removing the prostate is an effective treatment for prostate cancer are two separate issues. You are attempting to straddle the two as though inaccurate PSA tests explain why prostate removal may not be a reasonable response to prostate cancer. Please unbundle the two issues before making an assertion like this.
To repeat a well worn adage, a little information can be dangerous in the hands of the uninformed, especially when the uninformed is harboring a festering personal grudge.
GosiwonBusan
04-12-12, 10:28
I am not staying in a hotel in Manila, but will fly very early in the morning from Manila international.
I plan to get the bus to Manila several hours before my flight. Is there somewhere at or near the airport where I can leave my bag before going to the ringside bar.
Thanks for your help. Sorry that my previous post was not clear. Any updates or useful info about ringside would be appreciated. You can pm me if you wish.
Thank you SK for posting a good summary about this issue. Shame on the previous poster for using this issue as some kind of macabe joke.
How many inaccurate statements do we find in this short passage? First, assuming that "the medical test used to facilitate the removal of these vital organs" refers to PSA screening, you would be incorrect in asserting that the PSA "facilitates the removal" of any organ. PSA tests were routinely followed by a biopsy of prostate material. Having experienced it three times, I can report that it involves sticking a gun-like instrument into the rectum and extracting about ten tissue samples from different parts of the prostate. Being stuck by the anesthesia syringe hurts more than the tissue extractions. Only an idiot doctor and an ignorant patient would jump from elevated PSA score to prostate removal without a tissue biopsy as an intermediate step.
Second, the medical community has not entirely accepted that PSA tests are useless. There is, in fact, a heated controversy, since some practitioners continue to believe that the PSA is a useful indicator-which should be followed by a tissue biopsy. Are there strong voices arguing that the PSA is an unreliable test? Yes. But your statement that the medical community "no longer even administers the PSA test" is inaccurate.
Third, the issue of inaccuracy in the PSA test and the question of whether removing the prostate is an effective treatment for prostate cancer are two separate issues. You are attempting to straddle the two as though inaccurate PSA tests explain why prostate removal may not be a reasonable response to prostate cancer. Please unbundle the two issues before making an assertion like this.
To repeat a well worn adage, a little information can be dangerous in the hands of the uninformed, especially when the uninformed is harboring a festering personal grudge.
All or most hotels allow you to keep the baggage after check out. Just give the bellboy a tip.Yes, Dusit hotel (Makati) even kept a large heavy bag for me for a week while I went to Cebu and back. The did expect I would stay a night when I returned.
Chocha Monger
04-12-12, 18:52
penile implants have come a long way since freebie was fitted with his tool. however, there really is no substitute for the real thing. yes, it is true the man can pump up his tool at a moment's notice which technically does allow them to have multiple sex acts per day. unfortunately the woman has the sensation of getting fucked by a small loofah sponge and is not able to achieve orgasm without the aid of dildos, butt plugs and licking of the beaver. in addition, the sex act for the man is underwhelming at best with any attempt to produce the classic 'money shot' results in an awkward and embarrassing finish for both parties.
much as been written about the epidemic of naïve patients who willingly gave up their prostates just because some urologist said it was the right thing to do. it turns out the medical test used to facilitate the removal of these vital organs was completely flawed. as a result, the medical community has admitted to this mistake and no longer even administers the psa test to patients since the data now proves the removal of these prostates have not offered any statistical improvement in survival. how do you tell that to some poor bastard who is now left with an inflatable penile implant and a pair of [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131).quite right, the inflatable prosthetic allows the patient to achieve multiple insertions per day but the inflations of the device can hardly be called erections. it's more like poking the unfortunate recipient in the spunk bucket with a soggy corndog on a stick. i guess you can call it 'sex' but it sure isn't boning. it is anticlimactic when he hollers, shudders, and carries on depositing a few grains of sand on her belly. i concur that this only creates an embarrassing and awkward situation when the bewildered pinay asks, 'why you no cum? ' then mr. dry nutts has to go through the tragic tale of his urological history and confess that he is not wearing nappies solely for role playing purposes.
i'm sure her pinoy boyfriend gets a good laugh when he hears the story of the strange poriner lolo not having any tamod and wearing nappies like a baby. he enjoys the red horse that the freebie money bought then proceeds to give her several good poundings and tops her hole off with some pinoy gully washers before sending her home dripping all the way.
Screaming Beaver
04-12-12, 20:48
to repeat a well worn adage, a little information can be dangerous in the hands of the uninformed, especially when the uninformed is harboring a festering personal grudge.i am not harboring any grudge nor am i uninformed however i would be holding a grudge if i had been one of the thousands of men who were duped into having their prostrate glands snipped out and tossed into the waste can. perhaps an article whereas the inventor of the much ballyhooed psa test now steps up and says this is nothing less than a 'public health disaster' may have an impact on any readers who still have their prostate gland.
according to richard ablin, the inventor of the psa test goes on to say this is not even a subject which can be debated. the statistics have proven no material change in saving of lives has occurred over the years. he goes on to say 'but once treated, few want to admit that the treatment might have been unnecessary, particularly if they wind up coping with life-changing side-effects. human beings will do anything to avoid regret. ' since skippy had a number of biopsies, it's apparent he is now sporting one of those fancy prosthetics as well since urologists are in the business to remove prostates and that is exactly what they will do if you are naïve enough to let them do it.
for the majority who still have their prostate glands, do yourself a favor and read this article and ignore the naysayers who have to wear a [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) but say you should do the same thing they did. misery loves company.
http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new.html
Tomorrow I leave for the Philippines I waited all year for this. I know I won't sleep tonight. Thank you for all the advice I got from this site I promise to put it to good use.
he enjoys the red horse that the freebie money bought then proceeds to give her several good poundings and tops her hole off with some pinoy gully washers before sending her home dripping all the way.well, maybe your informants have been lucky to experience a good workout, but a pinay who's previously done only pinoy bfs has often to be taught the concept of fucks lasting over 5 seconds and other positions than missionary. for some odd reason. good point with the adult [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131), though. i have seen them for sale in puregold, so i guess there's some local demand too. but i have to agree that it's hard to picture your average trike driver wearing them.
Chocha Monger
04-13-12, 00:47
i am not harboring any grudge nor am i uninformed however i would be holding a grudge if i had been one of the thousands of men who were duped into having their prostrate glands snipped out and tossed into the waste can. perhaps an article whereas the inventor of the much ballyhooed psa test now steps up and says this is nothing less than a 'public health disaster' may have an impact on any readers who still have their prostate gland.
according to richard ablin, the inventor of the psa test goes on to say this is not even a subject which can be debated. the statistics have proven no material change in saving of lives has occurred over the years. he goes on to say 'but once treated, few want to admit that the treatment might have been unnecessary, particularly if they wind up coping with life-changing side-effects. human beings will do anything to avoid regret. ' since skippy had a number of biopsies, it's apparent he is now sporting one of those fancy prosthetics as well since urologists are in the business to remove prostates and that is exactly what they will do if you are naïve enough to let them do it.
for the majority who still have their prostate glands, do yourself a favor and read this article and ignore the naysayers who have to wear a [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) but say you should do the same thing they did. misery loves company.
http://www.healthbeatblog.com/2010/03/the-doctor-who-invented-psa-test-calls-it-a-profitdriven-public-health-disaster-why-this-is-good-new.htmlscreaming beaver, as you pointed out skippy's response was quite snippy. it's obvious he harbors some deep regret although he is now also equipped with one of those nifty little devices. some of the side effects after having one's gland slashed out and tossed into a medical waste pail include shrinkage, narrowing and shortening of the schmeckel. that's enough to make anyone bitter i guess. at least now we understand why in the past he boasted about his cunnilinguistic and anilinguistic performances on prostitutes.
Soapy Smith
04-13-12, 06:49
Perhaps an article whereas the inventor of the much ballyhooed PSA test now steps up and says this is nothing less than a 'Public Health Disaster' may have an impact on any readers who still have their prostate gland.SB, you just don't get it that unreliability of the PSA test is a different question than whether prostatectomies are necessary and effective. I don't have time or patience to try to explain your misunderstandings, and, as much as the news might disappoint you, I still have all of my plumbing (aside from my vasa deferentia having been cut and tied off) , and my squeeze. 30 years my junior, seems to think all the parts work pretty well.
I am impressed that you're reading stuff from the Century Foundation website, even though the story you cite is two years old. Did you try reading any of their other stuff? You don't seem like a Century Foundation kind of guy. BTW, nobody, including Ablin, you, or me, has a monopoly on truth; and good science, if there is such a thing, assumes that findings are never the final word: the whole idea is that science "progresses" when others come along tomorrow and shoot holes in today's presumed truths.
.I realise life is better with periodic trips to the board . I'm not going to be here very often. .Thanks, that would be refreshing. Hope you keep to your word, but I think your ego requires otherwise. I wish you success, just the same.
Soapy Smith
04-14-12, 19:49
Thanks to JPF for the diagnostic suggestion and to GE and RK for confirming what I had suspected was the problem with squeeze's Sun Broadband setup. Skip
Fast Buck Artist
04-15-12, 06:30
A pinay who's previously done only pinoy BFs has often to be taught the concept of fucks lasting over 5 seconds and other positions than missionary. For some odd reason.Even worse is a girl who has only had japanese boyfriends. Try to explain to her that a penis over 3 inches is not a horror to run away from, and you are not done yet after 1 minute of poking.
Fast Buck Artist
04-15-12, 06:54
my squeeze has a sun broadband usb aircard, uses it with a toshiba netbook, and buys load for a few days at a time. in the states i have a phone line 'hi-speed' dsl connection, and we've been skyping for several years. lately the connection has been almost uselessget a wired connection if you can, wireless is shit in phils. and sun is the worst of the wireless providers, has the cheapest deals, narrowest coverage and the worst bandwidth to user ratio.
sky cable is nice if you can get it http://www.mysky.com.ph/, cable broadband and cable tv.
pldt dsl is also decent.
if you have no other option than wireless usb sticks, get globe tattoo, its the nicest leper in the colony
Soapy Smith
04-15-12, 07:53
I appreciate the names of specific products. Skip
GoodEnough
04-15-12, 09:21
sky cable is nice if you can get it.
http://www.mysky.com.ph/
, cable broadband and cable tv.
pldt dsl is also decent.
if you have no other option than wireless usb sticks, get globe tattoo, its the nicest leper in the colonyi've had both pldt and tattoo and the performance of both is directly correlated to the activity on the nearest cell tower at any particular time. i now have the tattoo super stick (company paid) , that broadcasts a wifi signal that a few people can share. most of the time the speed is quite slow, but that's because neither globe nor smart seem capable of maintaining a 3g signal for more than 10 minutes at a time, so often one has to rely on 2g technology. it's sad that at a time when developed countries are investing in 4g, this place cannot even maintain 3g, but that's the philippines; always a day or two late and lots of pesos short.
i use a globe dsl hooked to a wireless router, and its semi-reliable most of the time. it's still slow and has real problems with video streaming, but so did the pldt line i used to have, and so does the sky cable line a friend of mine uses. in the end, everyone has to use the pldt facilities because it maintains the only internet backbone in the philippines. the competition is really illusory, and the only variable is how much bandwidth everyone buys from pldt. in all cases, the quality standard is low and the speed an reliablity are nowhere near international standards.
ge
ok so i've had a nice break from this board (more on this later) , but as i recently had a few days in manila, thought would throw in my trip report.wow; finally, i found me a trip report, but i had to walk thru junkyard of 'wifi, dsl, 'prostatectomies', ' inflatable prosthetic', 'adult [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131)', 'luggage storage'. they should name this "everything but the kitchen sink."
18 yo. 21 yo virgins. probably getting it free too. wow, you are living the life of riley without spending a dime, heh? how do you do it? i've been to manila twice this year and its pay-pay-pay as i go. i've found some freebies on dia, but i didn't have to fly to pi for those. i did score a for all night'er hottie from a 'semi-pro' at a hair-salon, but then when she asked 1500php that kind of ruined the romance of it. still, very cheap in comparison to what i pay at home. oh yeah in manila, mbc is the only place i go for the sure thing without having to break my bank.
Pip Jaeger
04-15-12, 10:52
i've had both pldt and tattoo and the performance of both is directly correlated to the activity on the nearest cell tower at any particular time. i now have the tattoo super stick (company paid) , that broadcasts a wifi signal that a few people can share. most of the time the speed is quite slow, but that's because neither globe nor smart seem capable of maintaining a 3g signal for more than 10 minutes at a time, so often one has to rely on 2g technology.
gethanks for the info about the usb sticks and services. sounds like the service may not always be the best, but something is better than nothing.
as i plan on doing a bit of island hopping, having a usb stick sounds like a good back up plan in case a hotel's wifi is out. i presume the usb devices are readily available at any cell phone store? any recommendations for stores in or near robinson's mall, ermita or are they all about the same when it comes to prices / availability?
Thanks for the info about the USB sticks and services. Sounds like the service may not always be the best, but something is better than nothing.
As I plan on doing a bit of island hopping, having a USB stick sounds like a good back up plan in case a hotel's WiFi is out. I presume the USB devices are readily available at any cell phone store? Any recommendations for stores in or near Robinson's Mall, Ermita or are they all about the same when it comes to prices / availability?I carry both Tattoo and Smartbro when I travel around the Philippines because of the signal variabilty by location. Both are relatively useless but suffice as a last resort for responding to my work email. You can find both at Robinsons at most cell phone stores and the price is generally the same price, around 1, 000P, last time I checked. You should also buy some prepaid loads as those cards can be harder to find when you are in the province.
FunLover100
04-16-12, 05:07
Hi guys,
Has anyone tried these girls?
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From the few posts recently about PSA testing, there seem to be some serious misunderstandings and erroneous perceptions.
The PSA test is a diagnostic tool only. It is used to indicate if there may be a problem. That is all.
No urologist or surgeon would undertake a prostatectomy, or radical prostatectomy on the basis of a PSA test alone.
If the PSA test indicates a problem, the urologist will undertake a DRE. Digital rectal examination. If still positive indication, then a number of ultrasound scans to measure size and shape of the prostate. If still positive, then there will be a series of biopsies of the prostate. Anything from 6 to 18 samples taken.
If these show infected tissue, then prostatectomy. If these show cancer cells, then more radical treatment. Maybe radiation therapy, keyhole surgery, of if too bad, a radical prostatectomy.
But it is a long and involved process of testing and diagnosis before anything serious is done.
A word about the PSA test. The conventional PSA test ordered by most doctors measures "total PSA". However, an additional test. "free PSA" should also be conducted. The combination of the two will give a much better indication of the real situation.
I had prostatitis. Which is an infection of the tissue in the prostate. Very difficult to treat. Fortunately, I have a very trusting and cooperative doctor. He referred me to a total of 4 specialists, both on his research and mine.
I went to see all 4, but made sure that I did not tell any of them that I had seen any other. That way, I got 4 independent, unbiased assessments.
I got 4 different results and recommendations. For each, I wrote a detailed report for my doctor.
With each, I asked about laser prostatectomy, as compared with TURP. Got 4 different responses.
With my doctors assistance and support, I had a series of different ultrasound scans, all in addition to the regular, normal ultrasound. Got very different results, which indicated all sorts of different situations with my prostate.
In the end, my Dr and I made a decision, mostly mine, as to what to do. And it was the correct, and most successful decision.
He suggested that we should write a joint paper for publication in one of the respected medical journals. It was quite an astounding story, highlighting the variability of medical procedures, inconsistency of assessments, variability of medical recommendations, and how the system creates confusion and uncertainty in the patient.
So next time you ask your Dr for your regular PSA test, make sure that he orders both "Total PSA" and "Free PSA".
G
Fast Buck Artist
04-16-12, 15:59
It's no secret to anyone familiar with Phils that Malate mongering area collects the worst scumbags and human trash countrywide. Here is a case of bait-and-extort routinely organised by the police on the prowl for the foreign sucka. Beware the streetwalkers!
Set Up By Cops
I want to tell my story here because I am so angry. I will not tell my real name and you can believe me or not, up to you. I was in Harrison Plaza in Manila in January of 2012. I was approached by two very sweet Filipinas who asked me f I wanted to have a date with them. I chose the one with the short, bobbed hair who said her name was Crystal. Her frind Jingy asked to come too but I didn't want her as she was dumpy and not very pretty. We took a taxi to Sogo in Malate and took a room there and we got undressed. Crystal went for a shower and I was lying ont he bed and there was a knockont he door and someone said room service. I hadn't ordered anything yet so I thought it was the bellhop wanting to make a tip. I opened the door and three Filipino men barged in. They were tough looking types in loose barong shirts and I could see they had guns under the shirts. One flashed a badge that looked pretty real and told me I was under arrest for having sex with a minor. Crystal came out of the bathroom and she was still fully dressed and the cops told her in Tagalog to leave the room. They closed the door and I was alone with these three cops and I was pretty scared. They told me she was only 16 and I was under arrest because it is illegal to go to a hotel room with a girl of 16, even though the age of consent is 16, if you are more than ten years older than her. I am 47 so I was screwed, so to speak.
To read the rest of the story, click here (http://www.philippinesscams.com/set-up-by-cops/)
Screaming Beaver
04-16-12, 20:33
From the few posts recently about PSA testing, there seem to be some serious misunderstandings and erroneous perceptions.
Having experienced it three times, I can report that it involves sticking a gun-like instrument into the rectum .I think Skippy was not reading correctly an earlier post of mine so I'll make it short and sweet this time:
1) Never get a PSA test. They are worthless and unreliable which will only be used as the first step to take out your prostate gland.
2) Do not get a digital rectum exam unless it's from a really hot female asian doctor with small hands.
3) Do not allow a doctor to stick a gun up your ass and take a biopsy. He will find cancer cells and then will want to yank out your prostate asap since his car payment is now due.
4) Do not allow your prostate to be removed. If you are over 50 you already have cancer cells in your prostate but in all likelihood you will die of something else before your prostate gets you.
a word about the psa test. the conventional psa test ordered by most doctors measures "total psa". however, an additional test."free psa" should also be conducted. the combination of the two will give a much better indication of the real situation.
so next time you ask your dr for your regular psa test, make sure that he orders both "total psa" and "free psa".
gyour article was quite good, helpful, but there was one thing in there my doctor and urologist would disagree with."free psa" (free radicals theory) , which became the rage a few years ago as valuable additional info, has, since at least 2/3 years ago been debunked, and the medical fraternity in my country do not do that one anymore. otherwise, yours was a good article.
one thing for sure, if told you have got prostate cancer, do not panic, i know someone who has had prostate cancer for 15yrs. when first diagnosed the urologist wanted to rip his prostate out, presumably to help pay for a new yacht or something. that guy with prostate cancer is still cancer positive according to psa tests. he has not allowed anyone to remove his prostate and he is happy and healthy. there will always be exceptions of course.
we are not urologists, so seek the advice of a few urologists, as indicated in gangles article, is a good first move, including "free psa". read government advice on the matter too, not commercially interested persons organisations, government sources.
research money goes into breast cancer cause the women are more aggressive in pushing their case. men are not so, means no where near the same money spent on prostate cancer research, resulting in many 'grey areas' leaving men in the dark, some walking around with [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) and their sex life a distant memory.
rtfs. research the friggin subject, and don't panic! lol.
Here is the very first government website I came across.
Interesting reading, for those, who are maybe unnecessarily concerned about the subject.
Don't know how old the info is, cause I see they do not debunk "Free PSA", but my friend. 15yr case, follows expert advice and doesn't ask for that one anymore, as of about 2 or 3 years ago.
END of subject for me.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/detection/PSA
I see now info on that government website is 2yrs old. Not good enough. Hence maybe reason no negative comment about Free PSA which was dumped in my country about 2 or 3 yrs ago.
Cannot edit previous post, don't know why, hence yet another post from me. END, LOL.
I see now info on that government website is 2yrs old. Not good enough. Hence maybe reason no negative comment about Free PSA which was dumped in my country about 2 or 3 yrs ago.
Cannot edit previous post, don't know why, hence yet another post from me. END, LOL.Actually on closer inspection, info is 3 years old, see top right hand corner of page. Ties in with time my country dumped "Free PSA". Rest of Gangles post, good info, folks should be aware of.
Pip Jaeger
04-17-12, 08:24
I carry both Tattoo and Smartbro when I travel around the Philippines because of the signal variabilty by location.Thanks for the advice Emale, especially about getting two devices and of course the respective prepaid cards.
Soapy Smith
04-18-12, 14:59
From the few posts recently about PSA testing, there seem to be some serious misunderstandings and erroneous perceptions.
The PSA test is a diagnostic tool only. It is used to indicate if there may be a problem. That is all.
But it is a long and involved process of testing and diagnosis before anything serious is done. GIt's always refreshing to get reliable information from a credible source. Skip
Chocha Monger
04-18-12, 17:04
your article was quite good, helpful, but there was one thing in there my doctor and urologist would disagree with."free psa" (free radicals theory) , which became the rage a few years ago as valuable additional info, has, since at least 2/3 years ago been debunked, and the medical fraternity in my country do not do that one anymore. otherwise, yours was a good article.
one thing for sure, if told you have got prostate cancer, do not panic, i know someone who has had prostate cancer for 15yrs. when first diagnosed the urologist wanted to rip his prostate out, presumably to help pay for a new yacht or something. that guy with prostate cancer is still cancer positive according to psa tests. he has not allowed anyone to remove his prostate and he is happy and healthy. there will always be exceptions of course.
we are not urologists, so seek the advice of a few urologists, as indicated in gangles article, is a good first move, including "free psa". read government advice on the matter too, not commercially interested persons organisations, government sources.
research money goes into breast cancer cause the women are more aggressive in pushing their case. men are not so, means no where near the same money spent on prostate cancer research, resulting in many 'grey areas' leaving men in the dark, some walking around with [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) and their sex life a distant memory.
rtfs. research the friggin subject, and don't panic! lol.sxxxx,
thanks for the information. unfortunately, most men hear the word "cancer" and they're happy to let the surgeon rip their prostate out so he can bill their health insurance company for a new enzo. once that happens they can say goodbye to standing hamptons and hello to a lifetime relationship with depends. here is an excerpt from an article on warren buffet's prostate:
however, while early results from a usa study have shown that annual screening with psa and dre found more prostate cancers than in men who skipped screening, it did not lower the death rate at all, the american cancer society noted. a european study did show a lower risk of death with more screening, but noted that 1, 400 men would have to be screened and 48 treated before one death would be prevented. neither study showed that evidence of early high psa levels helped save lives.
early-stage prostate cancer is mainly treated by two ways: radical prostatectomy and radiation therapy. radical prostatectomy involves surgical removal of the tumor-affected organ, while radiation therapy uses x-rays to kill cancer cells. both can be very damaging to the surrounding tissue, leading to many side effects including the inability to maintain an erection for intercourse, urinary incontinence and rectal problems.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-57415424-10391704/ryan-oneal-and-warren-buffet-have-prostate-cancer-what-are-stages-1-and-2/
PigGagaFunf
04-18-12, 17:21
wow; finally, i found me a trip report, but i had to walk thru junkyard of 'wifi, dsl, 'prostatectomies', ' inflatable prosthetic', 'adult [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131)', 'luggage storage'. they should name this "everything but the kitchen sink."
18 yo. 21 yo virgins. probably getting it free too. wow, you are living the life of riley without spending a dime, heh? how do you do it?sorry to burst your bubble, but those are reports, that lack imagination.
This my theory. You know why guys over 50's are having problems with prostate bcoz they do not have regular sex. So do yourself a favour get regular sex from young Filipina's and you never have to worry about prostate problems.
wow; finally, i found me a trip report, but i had to walk thru junkyard of 'wifi, dsl, 'prostatectomies', ' inflatable prosthetic', 'adult [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131)', 'luggage storage'. they should name this "everything but the kitchen sink."jorian, read the reports of distinction thread, many reports still relevant today. not much more can be added to them unless you are assed enough to write of your sexperience in the philippines.
boofa69, you sure tickled me with that one.
This my theory. You know why guys over 50's are having problems with prostate bcoz they do not have regular sex. So do yourself a favour get regular sex from young Filipina's and you never have to worry about prostate problems.Yes, Boo, it's not good to have that fluid backed up in your system so I agree regular deposits in your favorite crevices and cleavages is quite healthy. I find that San Miguel helps with the plumbing, too.
Screaming Beaver
04-20-12, 20:54
This my theory. You know why guys over 50's are having problems with prostate bcoz they do not have regular sex. So do yourself a favour get regular sex from young Filipina's and you never have to worry about prostate problems.That is not just a theory. ' The Journal of the American Medical Association, found that frequent ejaculations. 21 or more a month, were linked to lower prostate cancer risk in older men, as well, compared with less frequent ejaculations of four to seven monthly. '
That is not just a theory. ' The Journal of the American Medical Association, found that frequent ejaculations. 21 or more a month, were linked to lower prostate cancer risk in older men, as well, compared with less frequent ejaculations of four to seven monthly. 'Journals do not find anything-they are vehicles for research articles. While your claims may be true, siting the name of a journal without providing the source the citation or a link to it is the same thing as saying "they say."
That is not just a theory. ' The Journal of the American Medical Association, found that frequent ejaculations. 21 or more a month, were linked to lower prostate cancer risk in older men, as well, compared with less frequent ejaculations of four to seven monthly. 'I'll confirm this. I have chronic PBH and have had a couple of biopsies (negative) for prostate cancer over the year. Every time I see him my urologist shakes his finger at me and sternly warns me to have regular sex. Who am I to argue?
WestCoast1
04-22-12, 05:30
I'll confirm this. I have chronic PBH and have had a couple of biopsies (negative) for prostate cancer over the year. Every time I see him my urologist shakes his finger at me and sternly warns me to have regular sex. Who am I to argue?Well that does it then gents. A medical doctor confirms our suspiscions. Let the fuckin' begin (well, wankin' for TurdyCurdy. Oh shit, does that belong in the TC1 thread?). Gentlemen, start your engines!
Fast Buck Artist
04-22-12, 05:30
One thing for sure, if told you have got prostate cancer, do not panic, I know someone who has had prostate cancer for 15yrs. When first diagnosed the Urologist wanted to rip his prostate out, presumably to help pay for a new yacht or something. That guy with prostate cancer is still cancer positive according to PSA tests. He has not allowed anyone to remove his prostate and he is happy and healthy. There will always be exceptions of course.Exceptions ey.
LOL ok. I have another cancer success story to contribute, very much in spirit of this discussion..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8V70UXiAhU
There is merit in this recommendation.
I found the same kind of advice while researching my pamphlet on prostate cancer.
Risk minimisation strategies. Except that the number of ejaculations per month were different.
My advice was ejaculate twice per month. This includes sex, masturbation, HJ, BJ etc. Any way of regularly getting stored semen out of your prostate.
But I could not find information on the rate of reduction of risk that resulted from this.
G
That is not just a theory. ' The Journal of the American Medical Association, found that frequent ejaculations. 21 or more a month, were linked to lower prostate cancer risk in older men, as well, compared with less frequent ejaculations of four to seven monthly. '
Please move this conversation to the General thread, or take it private, or move to a prostrate oriented web page, or ask Jackson for a special thread. You might want to call it My Prostrate.
Please move this conversation to the General thread, or take it private, or move to a prostrate oriented web page, or ask Jackson for a special thread. You might want to call it My Prostrate.I agree X Man.
Not really a Manila topic.
Please note it is proSTATE not prostrate.
I agree X Man.
Not really a Manila topic.
Please note it is proSTATE not prostrate.As the prostate cancer sufferers say, I lay prostrate, thinking about my prostate.
And yes, I lifted it from another website, LOL.
AmericanThief
04-24-12, 03:39
What's the best area to stay long term in Manila? I need to be within a decent distance from Pasig and Pasay. I am considering Makati for obvious reason, but was hoping someone could give me some advice.
Severin007
04-24-12, 03:49
Makati broder around burgos street.
What's the best area to stay long term in Manila? I need to be within a decent distance from Pasig and Pasay. I am considering Makati for obvious reason, but was hoping someone could give me some advice.
Soapy Smith
04-24-12, 04:19
What's the best area to stay long term in Manila? I need to be within a decent distance from Pasig and Pasay. I am considering Makati for obvious reason, but was hoping someone could give me some advice.Assuming you mean the part of Pasig City that contains much of the business district immediately east of Ortigas Center, Shangri-la hotel and mall, SM Megamall, and Robinson's Galleria, then Makati is essentially midway between Pasig and Pasay. EDSA is an obvious thoroughfare for traveling between the two cities, although when traffic on EDSA is heavy the taxi drivers snake their way along other streets that only they know best. And Makati contains a large variety of accommodations at various price levels.
What's the best area to stay long term in Manila? I need to be within a decent distance from Pasig and Pasay. I am considering Makati for obvious reason, but was hoping someone could give me some advice.I have lived in Ortigas Center (virtually on the Pasig / Mandaluyong boundary) for 15 years now and would always stay here because of the easy walking proximity to 4 major malls from my condo.
I have lots of visits to Makati / Pasay for business and it is never a hassle for me to travel.
Skip Kost gives some good guidelines. Rentals are slightly cheaper around Ortigas too than Makati (if that's a factor).
Is your work spread evenly between Pasig and Pasay? If it is 50:50 then I say go with Pasig. If it is skewed more to Pasay then stay in the south. If proximity to mongering venues is a criterion, then definitely stay in Makati/Pasay/Paranaque. There is nothing much in Pasig although you are midway to Quezon Avenue and the KTVs etc along there.
Gents,
I am doing a one night "fly-by" next week and wanted to get some "recency of experience" advice. I have been to Manila many times, but only to MBC rarely (like twice). I did okay there once and "crashed and burned" the second time. On the other hand, I have always been successful at Havana's and liked the venue. With the recent change in policy, it appears that particular place is no longer an option.
I have almost 0 experience staying at hotels in Malate as well.
What I am trying to determine, is what is the current status of the P4P scene in / around the Havana location? Did the business find another location in Greenbelt, did Havana's decide to let the gals return, is there a "better" place to go? Of course the other option is to venture over to MBC and try my luck again. One thing is for sure, P. Burgos is out of the question.
I will admit that one thing I liked about Havana's was the pricing and the ladies always seemed a little less hard, at least to me. Maybe I was just lucky.
I appreciate the help.
Sky
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What I am trying to determine, is what is the current status of the P4P scene in / around the Havana location? Did the business find another location in Greenbelt, did Havana's decide to let the gals return, is there a "better" place to go? Of course the other option is to venture over to MBC and try my luck again. One thing is for sure, P. Burgos is out of the question.Havana Cafe is no longer an option in the same way that it used to be.
Business is booming there though. Packed almost every night because the "nicer crowd" has returned now that the stigma of being either a FL prostie or a guy on the prowl has been removed.
There are many girls still roaming the fringes and sitting at Seattle Coffee, the wine bar (Cervesaria) nearby or Starbucks but most of them cannot afford a drink so they get moved on quickly. You could sit at either place and watch the passing parade and see if you spot anything passing by, or just sit on the wall by the pond / fountain and they will find you.
None of this is a sure-fire result though, so I suggest you go straight to Malate and MBC if you want a certain result.
Wicked Roger
04-24-12, 17:31
Havana Cafe is no longer an option in the same way that it used to be.
Business is booming there though. Packed almost every night because the "nicer crowd" has returned now that the stigma of being either a FL prostie or a guy on the prowl has been removed.
There are many girls still roaming the fringes and sitting at Seattle Coffee, the wine bar (Cervesaria) nearby or Starbucks but most of them cannot afford a drink so they get moved on quickly. You could sit at either place and watch the passing parade and see if you spot anything passing by, or just sit on the wall by the pond / fountain and they will find you.
None of this is a sure-fire result though, so I suggest you go straight to Malate and MBC if you want a certain result.By "nicer" do you include yourself RK and does that exclude exemplary gentleman such as myself.
Maybe it is more fun as there is now lots more "enthusiastic amateurs"?
The LBs also hang around on the edges so beware.
By "nicer" do you include yourself RK and does that exclude exemplary gentleman such as myself.
Maybe it is more fun as there is now lots more "enthusiastic amateurs"?
The LBs also hang around on the edges so beware.Both you and I have no trouble getting into the "nicer" places WR because we are just dripping with class.
You're right about the LBs. They seem to have trebled in number in recent months and they congregate in packs now too. Makes it even easier to spot them, but I must say some of them appear to have remarkably well-endowed bodies (I am talking about the upper half. I have absolutely NO IDEA about the remainder, just in case some smart ass wants to cast aspersions LOL).
Both you and I have no trouble getting into the "nicer" places WR because we are just dripping with class.
You're right about the LBs. They seem to have trebled in number in recent months and they congregate in packs now too. Makes it even easier to spot them, but I must say some of them appear to have remarkably well-endowed bodies (I am talking about the upper half. I have absolutely NO IDEA about the remainder, just in case some smart ass wants to cast aspersions LOL).RK and WR, thanks for the info. I did make contact with the last gal I pulled out of Havana's a couple of months ago. She has left town for now, but told me that a LOT of the girls decided to try the overseas route, HK, Shanghai, Dubai, and Singapore were the places she mentioned. I didn't want to ask for a referral from her, in case she decided to come back to Manila next week.
I looks like I will make my way over to MBC area and see what's shaking over there. I' ve heard that the Rothman is a decent hotel in the area according to the forum, but if anyone has recent experience I would gladly accept your input.
If I had some more time, I would like to try some of the "normal clubs / bars" just to see what is possible. Maybe next trip!
Thanks again!
I've been to Havana a few times over the last few weeks and most recently last night. There are a bunch of girls on the outskirts and sitting on the benches around and I saw several groups of guys call over some of the girls to sit with them. They are also at Starbucks and Seattle's Best as well as the area between GB3 and GB2.
I have never gone to Havana for a pickup but it seems that there are plenty of options still around and by my estimate there were over 50 girls available last night.
As mentioned, there were probably about 20-30+ ladyboys also in the area.
They may not be sitting at the tables at Havana by themselves anymore but there are still a lot there.
Fast Eddie 48
04-25-12, 22:34
I've been to Havana a few times over the last few weeks and most recently last night. There are a bunch of girls on the outskirts and sitting on the benches around and I saw several groups of guys call over some of the girls to sit with them. They are also at Starbucks and Seattle's Best as well as the area between GB3 and GB2.
I have never gone to Havana for a pickup but it seems that there are plenty of options still around and by my estimate there were over 50 girls available last night.
As mentioned, there were probably about 20-30+ ladyboys also in the area.
They may not be sitting at the tables at Havana by themselves anymore but there are still a lot there.To Sugoi
What time last night did you go to Havana how is the quality of the girl did you pick anyone up and the price for LT.
Fast Eddie 48
I've been to Havana a few times over the last few weeks and most recently last night. There are a bunch of girls on the outskirts and sitting on the benches around and I saw several groups of guys call over some of the girls to sit with them. They are also at Starbucks and Seattle's Best as well as the area between GB3 and GB2.
I have never gone to Havana for a pickup but it seems that there are plenty of options still around and by my estimate there were over 50 girls available last night.
As mentioned, there were probably about 20-30+ ladyboys also in the area.
They may not be sitting at the tables at Havana by themselves anymore but there are still a lot there.Sugoi is endorsing exactly what I said in post #8904. Options are still all around Greenbelt but you need to be a bit more discerning and, as we both re-iterate, the LBs are also out in quite aggressive large numbers.
FreebieFan
04-27-12, 10:36
But before we get to that, just to add that after 5 years of being here, on this particular name I decided to both a) have a break from the various boards of Philippines, as you do, and be) started to use the ignore button. So if you are one of the wankers of the world, get your flame on guys, but it aint going anywhere near me, I'm retardant LOL.
Back to the ladies. So I found a wife proof reason to suddenly get a few days in Manila next week.
My last trip generally involved 2 or 3 girls a day, all properly arranged in sequence before I even started, and at the end of that trip, I said to myself, as I had done om previous trips that I should allow some space and time for random events to occur, and equally some space for new ones. Last trip had a total of 5 repeats plus some newbies, the repeats being great girls, but we need new now and again!
So all I know right now is Ms 18 will be meeting me early after my arrival (assuming she can escape her dragon of a mum who seems intent on keeping her at home. Will she break free / won't she. Well if not theres always a ready alternative waiting in the wings.)
Ms 37 (a newbie, a change of pace) maybe meeting me in the afternoon.
Evening is being kept free for whoever answer the phone. There are 4 on the list.
Next day sees me working, with a choice of 3 for the evening. 21, 21, or 23. We see who repsonds first, fastest or best.
Next day I don't have any plans in day, but Miss 23 will arrive for an evening date. Her only proviso was " I hope you arent a maniac ". LOL. No honey, just a horny guy disguised as a gentleman.
Next day, few short meetings, then some afternoon fun will occur with one or another and maybe that will be that. As always a way more detailed report will follow, when I've returned home, and dowloaded the pics. Every trip I have there is better than the last, this one, whilst a little unplanned so far, will be equally so.
So, flamers, turn your ignition on. Oops. So sorry I can't see what your saying. What a shame. NOT!
To Sugoi
What time last night did you go to Havana how is the quality of the girl did you pick anyone up and the price for LT.
Fast Eddie 48FE,
No, I didn't pick up any and didn't ask the rate. I was there from about 9pm to midnight.
On another note, has anyone tried the dozens of "massage" girls on Burgos? They are all over the place including on the side streets, on Makati Ave, on Kalayaan, etc. I know of at least 5 or 6 massage places around burgos with a Happy Ending (sometimes more) but I've heard that the ones on the street will do much more at a lower price. Anyone tried them?
To Sugoi
What time last night did you go to Havana how is the quality of the girl did you pick anyone up and the price for LT.
Fast Eddie 48I think you must have missed a few posts Eddie.
Havana no longer has hooker tables with "come hither" women.
They have been kicked out.
Some of the obvious hookers hover around the edges and walk up and down hoping some guy already seated at a table will invite them to sit down.
As a few of us have already warned. The LBs appear to be moving in larger numbers around Greenbelt now.
I think you must have missed a few posts Eddie.
Havana no longer has hooker tables with "come hither" women.
They have been kicked out.
Some of the obvious hookers hover around the edges and walk up and down hoping some guy already seated at a table will invite them to sit down.
As a few of us have already warned. The LBs appear to be moving in larger numbers around Greenbelt now.There are also a lot more LBs around Makati Avenue and P. Burgos. Another reason to be wary of picking up a SW around P. Burgos.
If you can spend some time on chatting before 3-4 weeks of your trip, then DIA is the best route, recently I was in Manila and Davao, met 3 girls fm dia, they were Qing!
2 college students. 21 & 23 and another 20yr working at home helping her mother, they travelled 10th 24 hours by bus to meet me, paid 2000 peso per night plus 1000 peso bus fare, will post photos soon.
TMT
I have trouble getting them to come across town, so surprised you got them to come so far. Did you set it up as a regular date or did they understand it was a p4p arrangement? X.
If you can spend some time on chatting before 3-4 weeks of your trip, then DIA is the best route, recently I was in Manila and Davao, met 3 girls fm dia, they were Qing!
2 college students. 21 & 23 and another 20yr working at home helping her mother, they travelled 10th 24 hours by bus to meet me, paid 2000 peso per night plus 1000 peso bus fare, will post photos soon.
TMT
I made it very clear to them that it was just a p4p, because I don't want them to give any false hope for a permananet relationship, made it very clear, timings, date, rate, so that there is no scope for any misunderstanding, I offer them a rate and all of them accepted it immeditely. Province girls will gladly accept 2000 peso! For whole night.
I have trouble getting them to come across town, so surprised you got them to come so far. Did you set it up as a regular date or did they understand it was a p4p arrangement? X.
Double Shooter
05-02-12, 05:55
You're right about the LBs. They seem to have trebled in number in recent months and they congregate in packs now too. Makes it even easier to spot them, but I must say some of them appear to have remarkably well-endowed bodies (I am talking about the upper half. I have absolutely NO IDEA about the remainder, just in case some smart ass wants to cast aspersions LOL).Some have had surgery to "enhance" the arse also. Sticks out in all directions. Looks really weird.
Double Shooter
05-02-12, 06:01
Back to the ladies. So I found a wife proof reason to suddenly get a few days in Manila next week.
My last trip generally involved 2 or 3 girls a day, all properly arranged in sequence before I even started, and at the end of that trip, I said to myself, as I had done om previous trips that I should allow some space and time for random events to occur, and equally some space for new ones. Last trip had a total of 5 repeats plus some newbies, the repeats being great girls, but we need new now and again!Are you available to deliver a training course on "Time Management for Mongers"?
It has been awhile since I spent any time in Manila that didn't include a visit to Makati, but with Havana changing policies, I decided to try the Malate area.
I tried to make a reservation for Rothman's but their website kept crashing so I decided to taxi over there. They told me they were "sold out", but I had just seen rooms available on Agoda. I found a wifi site, sat down and bought a room using Agoda and went back.
The front desk girl looked at me like I was from Mars. She said,"I am sorry we are sold out", I told her that may be true, but I am one of the rooms, as I had just paid ffor the night on Agoda. I wasn't trying to be a pain, but I REALLY thought they were holding rooms for Agoda customers to buy, as it turns out they were REALLY sold outso they walked me to Riviera Mansion, which I suspect is about the same thing.
It was about 3 pm, so went for a stoll to MBC, a few cuties, but nothing really "popped" for me, so made the loop to Amazonia. My first to the original, I had only been to the one in HK. Was descended upon by a group of 5 ladies, none worth a lady drink and managed to move on. I had never been to G Spot, but found it and realized it is a "normal" bar, at least in the afternoon! Didn't feel like going back to MBC, so on to Robinson Mall, to see what I could find.
Spied a really cute gal, that was looking for someone, she kept sms'ing and looking. I approached her, just to see if she was looking for a "female friend" or male. She said that she had arranged to meet a gentleman there, but he was late or she was early. And she felt she needed to wait for a while as they had never met, only chatted online. I really hope that whoever set this one up, showed up because she was squeaky clean and ADORABLE!
Happen to notice that Avenger's in 3D was showing, so went to see it while I was waiting for evening to fall.
Good "no brainer" movie, BTW.
Back to MBC, talked a a cute thing with nice legs, not a skinny girl, but I liked her look. As we were talking, some sub-continent looking guy was hovering over me and looking like he really wanted me to get out of the picture so he could chat her up. I asked her if I should leave and she said,"Please don't".
Anyway he got the hint and moved on and I asked if she would be interested in a short time visit to my hotel. She wasn't interested in one thing I like, but it wasn't a deal breaker. What was a deal breaker was when she told me the short time was 3500, which was a discount from her normal 4k.
I told here I thought it was over priced, but the whole exchange killed the mood for me.
Moved on to find a tall gal from Pampanga, that swore she only came twice a month when her "real job" brought her to Manila for an over night. She wasn't dressed in anything special so I suspect that part was true. She agreed to 1. 5 for short time and off we went.
It was pretty good, except she wanted to stop every 30 secs to make sure the condom was okay! I did get my money's worth in the doggie position, she said it felt like "riding a horse" About 2. 5 secs after I finished she wanted to examine the condom for breakage. I was like "wait a minute", if it broke it is too late to do anything now!
She showered and left. It was an very average experience, and I can tell that the selection process will take some getting used to grab a goodie!
I am sure I will repeat, but have to admit that I enjoyed the ladies that came to Havana more. At least on this trip.
Cunning Stunt
05-03-12, 15:32
.What was a deal breaker was when she told me the short time was 3500, which was a discount from her normal 4k.Haha, good one! A MBC skank asking high class escort rates. She must have been 'having a larf'.
Asian Rain
05-03-12, 17:41
What was a deal breaker was when she told me the short time was 3500, which was a discount from her normal 4k.Last time I was trawling the waters in MBC / LAC, I had exactly the same offer for ST. P3500 "only". Not only that, the offer came from a frigging self-confessed MILF. Really, I was thinking WHAT THE FUCK. I wouldn't have taken her for half that. I politely wished her the best of luck and moved on, ending up with an Old Reliable that delivered in style for a 1/3 of the MILF's price.
MBC / LAC had its day and time for me. Now I have enough video footage from LAC girls to stock at least two amateur porn sites. That's how I remember "the good old days" of the joint. Yes, there are certainly still girls worth having a session with, but the heyday is well and gone. Just an opinion. YMMV. Enjoy Manila, AsianRain
Cunning Stunt
05-03-12, 20:02
MBC / LAC had its day and time for me. Now I have enough video footage from LAC girls to stock at least two amateur porn sites.Between us, we could probably start a new porn channel....lol.
Yup, MBC is well past it's heyday. Like the Thermae in Bangkok, it is yet another venerable Asian institution ruined by the free spending East Asians. I used to be a regular in there but in my last 6 month sojourn I only crossed it's portals twice. For ex-pats and frequent visitors, there are much better options available with a far higher quality of girl.
I'll always have a soft spot for the place though. I had some great times in there and met some lovely girls, one or two of whom I am still in contact with.
Within the past few months, I have pulled two women from MBC, both 1500 LT. They were certainly not stunningly beautiful, but both provided good service, and in each case we parted friends. And we still communicate.
So it is not all gloom and doom.
G.
Last time I was trawling the waters in MBC / LAC, I had exactly the same offer for ST. P3500 "only". Not only that, the offer came from a frigging self-confessed MILF. Really, I was thinking WHAT THE FUCK. I wouldn't have taken her for half that. I politely wished her the best of luck and moved on, ending up with an Old Reliable that delivered in style for a 1/3 of the MILF's price.
MBC / LAC had its day and time for me. Now I have enough video footage from LAC girls to stock at least two amateur porn sites. That's how I remember "the good old days" of the joint. Yes, there are certainly still girls worth having a session with, but the heyday is well and gone. Just an opinion. YMMV. Enjoy Manila, AsianRain
There are plenty of descent choices in MBC. I think its more of a case of regulars punters moving on rather then quality drastically dropping. Yes things have changed but in my eyes its a marginal change. I don't think I can monger there for weeks but why would I want to even do that? As an option in manila for few days I think its still great. For longer mongering IMO even in its heydays it could not compete with few other places around Manila / AC region.
With the old LAC closing some of the smarter and nicer looking birds found other avenues just look at DIA from around 4. 5-5K users at pick times before the closure it has now grown to 10-11K and mostly from Phils. Technology is changing the game in phils, I now know quite a few MBC / Burgos girls that no longer bother with bars because they do just as well with net hookups. Also the Korean / Jap part of malate is booming. We hardly ever discuss that on this forum, perhaps a lot of us don't bother with it but bottom line is there are plenty of other options that are in the area that take the best MBC talent this days as soon as it appears which was not the case before. One girl that I am friends with worked in a jap pool place near Robinsons for years. When she got fired she went to MBC for extra cash. On her third visit there she was approached by another jap who fixed her up with a Karaoke bar job now (forgot the place but its opposite the Hyatt) where she is making a killing. I don't think that use to happen that much before as the best LAC girls were looked after (accommodation was provided in some cases) but with everything that happened behind the scenes now they have to be much more careful. Also quite a few girls were busted at LAC before so safety for them became an issue. The fact that they are asking for a mandatory drink also chased away some talent.
Overall things have changed but its still the best freelance joint in SEA.
FreebieFan
05-07-12, 04:23
Newbies can easily be frustrated by the various cancelations and "emergencies" that occur and frustrate our well known paths of getting panties to descend. And truly having multiple plans is a MUST when visiting as changes occur daily even hourly. My recent trip shows the same.
The "plan " was that last Thursday morning was supposed to meet the young lady who gave me her virginity a few trips back. She was going to be the "grand opening" for my latest trip. BUT one day before my trip she tells me I must re-arrange for Saturday morning. So the new schedule, at time of departure was as follows.
1. Meet 21 year receptionist from massage place.
2. Meet 37 year old in Makati.
3. Meet 21 year old in Global City for drinks and who knows what.
4. Meet 21 year old in Makati at night.
Arrived in Manila and no replies from Number 1. Quickly switched to a 30 year old lady who was very interested to meet. Simple, sweet type and quite eager and happy to please. She had had 2 kids but not much damage. She eventually said she hadn't had sex for 2 years and gave me one of the most memorable blows I've had in years. Nice and says she's always free for me for future trips. That was my 10am to 12 noon starter.
Move onto lunch and seeking the 37 year old. She texts me that she has bought her son and sister to meet me? WTF! I say no way and start to text for replacements. She tells me " Ok freebie, I meet you alone". We meet in SM Makati, take taxi to my place and within 30 minutes were doing the deed. She gets dropped off happy and smiling and appeared to be pleased with her afternoon. Later that day the " guilt " arrives and she's like " Freebie, I never have sex, why is it we meet, and within 30 minutes were kissing etc. Its a sin, a bad sin, I'm going to church to pray for us. You should go to church too. Yeah right. I suspect her sister scolded her as she had the post bonk smile. LOL.
Anyways number 3, a cute 21 year old texts that she's not able to make it, so, onto another. Ms J arrives 45 mins later, super slim. 38 kgs, but I can tell very "acquisitive". We had been chatting on and off for 6 months but had never met. She's no sooner in my place than she's telling me I promised her a new phone etcetc. Can she take some dvds etc. I'm not letting this one out of my site. We have some mundane sex, nothing special but she was incredibly small and slim being only 38 kgs.
So now I've done 3 in one day, even tho I arrived at 4am. I'm still feeling fine, so go to makati, have some beers with a mate, and wait for Ms 21. She's somewher in Makati, but trapped by the huge downpour. I can't realy be bothered to go hunting for her, so went home. 3 new girls in one day is enough.
Onto Day 2.
Supposed to meet a long time chat mate at 10am for the days first bonk but sadly she's a no show. She later tells me she's "scared that I only want her body ". Wow. No shit Sherlock. No matter, I go to work till late afternoon then meet a 24 year old new friend. Cute. 42kgs, nice smile. We have some beers, go to my place. She's happy to dress up in bikini, schoolgirl outfit, stewardess etc, and of course happy when it all falls off too. Sweet bonk and were done by 9pm. I drop her and head to Makati.
Stardust just off Burgos used to be a favourite bar, but I haven't been there for 2 years. I walk in the door and some girl I barely remember is " Hey Freebie, how are you." How these girls remember customers I have no idea.
Onto Day 3.
The ex virgin is an hour or two late ("Mum made me do some chores" LOL) but thats fine. We get to my place and do lots, altho things got a bit rough when she wants me to bite her etc. She's always said " Freebie you can do whatever you want with me ". Anyways I take a shower and assumed she was sleeping. Ooops no, she's looking through my camera and seeing the previous nights stewardess pics. 20 minutes of strained silence follows, during which she is fuming in one room and I'm on my pc. Check into mamboo and a girl with cute pics says " I like your profile" to me. I send her my number and within 3 minutes she's sent me a text. I say lets meet later, and sher readily agrees. She's was 24 from QC.
Ok, so now miss 18 year ex virgin ha stopped fuming and is actually laughing and so we had sweet make up sex. I drop her, and wait an hour for my mamboo friend who really had nice pics.
She arrives and theres some very attractive cleavage to see. Maybe a few extra pounds but happy face etc. 24 and first date in a year she says. We have some beers and head to my place. Ten minutes later we are naked and she had some C cups there. Nice to get hold of something substantial. We had 3 hours of fun, including a blow in the bath, and then I'm dropping her off in the mall near me.
And 5 minutes later, my final date for the day arrives. Also 38kgs. 21, but this one is in a tight leopard skin dress thats very short. 5 inch high heels, hair nicely back and looking gorgeous. Weve met a few times before but she's never looked this good. Model good. We head to Burgos Circle (not to be confused with P Burgos) and all the western guys with their wives are looking and thinking how did he get so lucky. The wives are thinking how does she stay so slim.
We had lots of drinks and then we had the worst Indian meal I've ever had in some place there. We placed the order and they presented the bill saying the cashier needed to go home as her son was sick. Tsk Tsk. Anyways we had lots to drink, sex on the balcony, and she stayed overnight. She was sweet and very pleasant to wake up with.
Day 4. Dropped her off, went to another part of manila for some work meetings then back to makati. There I met the "stewardess" for a sweet repeat bonk, which was nice till she starts asking for a new phone. Got to love them for trying. Thanks honey, here's p1000. See ya.
I hadn't been sure whether to finish my trip with the mamboo 25 year old and her substantial chest or try for the 21 year old from makati who I hadn't been able to meet on Thursday night.
I went for the youth option and was glad I did. We met outside Dusit, sweet. 21 and nice smile. We get to my place and just somehow, by magic we end up in bed. LOL. She was hiding some really nice 34B cups, and as she was young with no kids, had great springy boobs and butt. Was realy nice way to end up. She sweetly asks at the end if I could buy her some pepsi and give her taxi money back to makati. Yes honey you can have that!
And so that was that. 5 new girls and two repeats in a 4 day trip. I realy don't know where I get the energy (masipag in Tagalog) from, but I'm glad I do. Sadly tho I don't think I can get a manila trip for many more weeks, but I do have phuket this weekend so I'm sure all will be good! LOL
FreebieFan
05-07-12, 08:53
The one girl who was a no show texted me after her no show. Told me she was scared to show etc. Then later she said, she was shy to sell her body (not knowing free sex is my thing) , but in case she did decide to do so, how much would I pay.
Another girl in QC sent me text asking me if we could have 3 hours in bed together. I told her sure. She asked how much I could pay, as the "rent was due".
Another girl in Cavite is engaged to some English guy. Says she's getting married in June and wants to play before her arrives.
And finally another girl is living near NAIA. She's online a lot, and is permanently seeking " paying boyfriends". Said she could arrange another gf to play also.
They are out there Gents, hundreds of them, for those who are seeking
Have you guys managed to find bar girls / working girls in Tagged?
FreebieFan
05-08-12, 01:22
Are you available to deliver a training course on "Time Management for Mongers"?Having your own car in Manila, a nice well know place to pick them up certainly helps reduce the "wait time ". See latest trip report where I think I broke even my own records.
No, none at all. Why are you asking?
Have you guys managed to find bar girls / working girls in Tagged?
Hey Guys,
Thanks for all the great info you lay upon us want to beez. LOL. I have a question I hope someone might know. When I get there I would like to travel a bit and have been thinking about renting a motor bike. I'm not going all over Luzon but I'm planing on being there a couple weeks for sure. I have some female contacts to visit and a few old friends who've been after me for years to visit Land of Beauty and Smiles. Plus there are some cities I want to visit also. I'm not far from re-tiring one way or another. I was thing a motor scooter would be a nice way to get around.
Any Ideas on the subject, where could I rent on, cost, dangers and any other info would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance, and Happy Mongering.
[Email address deleted by Admin]
PS, I plan to visit, Oolongapo, Angeles, Manila, Subic, and Cebu. I know I won't be taking the bike across water to Cebu.
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Have you guys managed to find bar girls / working girls in Tagged?Trying to find bar girls in Tagged. My gosh, just how low can you go, Going Low?
Double Shooter
05-08-12, 23:23
Newbies can easily be frustrated by the various cancelations and "emergencies" that occur and frustrate our well known paths of getting panties to descend. And truly having multiple plans is a MUST when visiting as changes occur daily even hourly. My recent trip shows the same.
The "plan " was that last Thursday morning was supposed to meet the young lady who gave me her virginity a few trips back. She was going to be the "grand opening" for my latest trip. BUT one day before my trip she tells me I must re-arrange for Saturday morning. So the new schedule, at time of departure was as follows.
1. Meet 21 year receptionist from massage place.
2. Meet 37 year old in Makati.
3. Meet 21 year old in Global City for drinks and who knows what.
4. Meet 21 year old in Makati at night.
And so that was that. 5 new girls and two repeats in a 4 day trip. I realy don't know where I get the energy (masipag in Tagalog) from, but I'm glad I do. Sadly tho I don't think I can get a manila trip for many more weeks, but I do have phuket this weekend so I'm sure all will be good! LOLYet another masterclass in planning, time management, resource management, thrift and sexual energy. Hats off to Professor FreebieFan.
Does any one know how long it takes to get from Terminal 2 to Terminal 1 at Manila Airport? There seems to be a shuttle.
Have you guys managed to find bar girls / working girls in Tagged?Not in Tagged but I found in DIA. Couple years ago 21 yrs innocent family girl was a working girl. She was a perfect 10 with a typical hooker personality
FreebieFan
05-09-12, 06:48
Hey Guys,
Thanks for all the great info you lay upon us want to beez. LOL. I have a question I hope someone might know. When I get there I would like to travel a bit and have been thinking about renting a motor bike. I'm not going all over Luzon but I'm planing on being there a couple weeks for sure. I have some female contacts to visit and a few old friends who've been after me for years to visit Land of Beauty and Smiles. Plus there are some cities I want to visit also. I'm not far from re-tiring one way or another. I was thing a motor scooter would be a nice way to get around.
Any Ideas on the subject, where could I rent on, cost, dangers and any other info would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance, and Happy Mongering.
[Email address deleted by Admin]
PS, I plan to visit, Oolongapo, Angeles, Manila, Subic, and Cebu. I know I won't be taking the bike across water to Cebu.
EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks! There are other forums about the Philippines at night that have subsections with guys who bike all over Philippines, and lots of guys living in Angeles who have bikes. Google the name of such forums and you can contact members there who can give you more info.
Stroker Ace88
05-09-12, 06:58
Does any one know how long it takes to get from Terminal 2 to Terminal 1 at Manila Airport? There seems to be a shuttle.Terminals 1 and 2 at NAIA is used by PAL (Philippine airlines) exclusively. It would take you 3mins to walk from terminal 1 to terminal 2 and that includes a ride in the elevator. Terminal 3 is located on the other side of the NAIA property and is used by all other carriers including Cebu Pacific. Check your flight info to determine what terminal your flight will arrive at.
Terminals 1 and 2 at NAIA is used by PAL (Philippine airlines) exclusively. It would take you 3mins to walk from terminal 1 to terminal 2 and that includes a ride in the elevator. Terminal 3 is located on the other side of the NAIA property and is used by all other carriers including Cebu Pacific. Check your flight info to determine what terminal your flight will arrive at.Stroker,
Not sure that it really makes a difference referencing the original question, but Terminal 1 is used by every airline NOT named Philippine Airlines or Cebu. Cathay, Delta, Qatar, et al. I think that Philippine Airlines is solely in Term. 2 and Cebu is in 3 (it is the new terminal).
You are correct, going from / to Term 3 from either 1 or 2 will take a while as the traffic is very bad almost all the time.
Member #4152
05-09-12, 12:46
Stroker,
Not sure that it really makes a difference referencing the original question, but Terminal 1 is used by every airline NOT named Philippine Airlines or Cebu. Cathay, Delta, Qatar, et al. I think that Philippine Airlines is solely in Term. 2 and Cebu is in 3 (it is the new terminal).
You are correct, going from / to Term 3 from either 1 or 2 will take a while as the traffic is very bad almost all the time.Have they improved the restaurants in the airport? Beginning to think it'll never happen.
Hey Guys,
I was thing a motor scooter would be a nice way to get around.
Any Ideas on the subject, where could I rent on, cost, dangers and any other info would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance, and Happy Mongering.
PS, I plan to visit, Oolongapo, Angeles, Manila, Subic, and Cebu. I know I won't be taking the bike across water to Cebu.I'm a bike rider in London which carries it's dangers. I also ride a touch when in Thailand, but prefer walking when in Pattaya which is advantageous for obvious reasons. Being somewhat a risk taker my nature, I'm not into advising others what they should do with their lives. However, I would leave the bike riding to the locals as far as I'm concerned.
If I were to live in the Philippines then certainly I would opt for biking only after taking in the understanding and nature entailed in the art of getting around on two wheels with confidence. If this is your 1st trip to Philippines; I assume this is, I would certainly in your case opt for Bus services. Slow, but stress free and sensible. As you plan on travelling high millage this is surely your relaxed option.
I'm a bike rider in London which carries it's dangers. I also ride a touch when in Thailand, but prefer walking when in Pattaya which is advantageous for obvious reasons. Being somewhat a risk taker my nature, I'm not into advising others what they should do with their lives. However, I would leave the bike riding to the locals as far as I'm concerned.
If I were to live in the Philippines then certainly I would opt for biking only after taking in the understanding and nature entailed in the art of getting around on two wheels with confidence. If this is your 1st trip to Philippines; I assume this is, I would certainly in your case opt for Bus services. Slow, but stress free and sensible. As you plan on travelling high millage this is surely your relaxed option.Hi All,
Thanks again, Noddy. Busses it will be at first then after a bit there I might change up for some shot trips if there traffic isn't too bad. But busses it will be at first and thn who knows. Thanks Again.
Asian Rain
05-09-12, 18:08
Thanks for all the great info you lay upon us want to beez. LOL. I have a question I hope someone might know. When I get there I would like to travel a bit and have been thinking about renting a motor bike. I'm not going all over Luzon but I'm planing on being there a couple weeks for sure. I'm not far from re-tiring one way or another. I was thing a motor scooter would be a nice way to get around.
Any Ideas on the subject, where could I rent on, cost, dangers and any other info would be really appreciated.Having driven a bit around Manila, I can tell you getting a bike would be an exceptionally bad idea. Travelling distances across Manila are generally long and the roads are very poorly maintained. A large portion of the driving population (including my good self) has no driver's license and even those who do have one don't display the driving skills to merit a license. If you stop at traffic lights, the beggars and roadside merchants will accost you. During typhoon season the roads become rivers. And a close-to-retirement kano riding a scooter will make a ripe target for crime. The whole concept is risky to say the least. Enjoy, AsianRain
Having driven a bit around Manila, I can tell you getting a bike would be an exceptionally bad idea. Travelling distances across Manila are generally long and the roads are very poorly maintained. A large portion of the driving population (including my good self) has no driver's license and even those who do have one don't display the driving skills to merit a license. If you stop at traffic lights, the beggars and roadside merchants will accost you. During typhoon season the roads become rivers. And a close-to-retirement kano riding a scooter will make a ripe target for crime. The whole concept is risky to say the least. Enjoy, AsianRainI am now re-thinking the whole bike thing. I reckon its not so good an idea. Thought it'd be fun and convenient but never took for that much resistance. You Guys are right though, its not a place for a rookie to be taken chances without knowing or experience to just go crazy and ride. Maybe after a few visits I might try but for now I'll just sit back and leave the driving to them.
Thanks Again Asian Rain.
Happy Mongering
Having driven a bit around Manila, I can tell you getting a bike would be an exceptionally bad idea. Travelling distances across Manila are generally long and the roads are very poorly maintained. A large portion of the driving population (including my good self) has no driver's license and even those who do have one don't display the driving skills to merit a license. If you stop at traffic lights, the beggars and roadside merchants will accost you. During typhoon season the roads become rivers. And a close-to-retirement kano riding a scooter will make a ripe target for crime. The whole concept is risky to say the least. Enjoy, AsianRainI'm here at home playing Russian Roulette. My odds are better than yours.
Sorry AR that was meant for the guy you responded to.
Hey Guys,
Thanks for all the great info you lay upon us want to beez. LOL. I have a question I hope someone might know. When I get there I would like to travel a bit and have been thinking about renting a motor bike. I'm not going all over Luzon but I'm planing on being there a couple weeks for sure. I have some female contacts to visit and a few old friends who've been after me for years to visit Land of Beauty and Smiles. Plus there are some cities I want to visit also. I'm not far from re-tiring one way or another. I was thing a motor scooter would be a nice way to get around.
Any Ideas on the subject, where could I rent on, cost, dangers and any other info would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance, and Happy Mongering.
[Email address deleted by Admin]
PS, I plan to visit, Oolongapo, Angeles, Manila, Subic, and Cebu. I know I won't be taking the bike across water to Cebu.
EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks! I have visited manila many times staying a week or two. Always stay in Cavite DASMA. I book an avis car before arrival and pickup at airport. A bit expensive but saves me tons of time traveling. What could take over 2 hrs for me to get to Cavite from airport is just an hr driving myself. Visiting mallof Asia or driving to batangas etc saves so much time driving a car. As for a bike I would not risk that on Manila roads specially SLEX or star toll way.
Having driven a bit around Manila, I can tell you getting a bike would be an exceptionally bad idea. Travelling distances across Manila are generally long and the roads are very poorly maintained. A large portion of the driving population (including my good self) has no driver's license and even those who do have one don't display the driving skills to merit a license. If you stop at traffic lights, the beggars and roadside merchants will accost you. During typhoon season the roads become rivers. And a close-to-retirement kano riding a scooter will make a ripe target for crime. The whole concept is risky to say the least. Enjoy, AsianRainOh, I don't know. This read made me laugh.
http://journal.davidbyrne.com/2005/12/philippines_mar.html
Have they improved the restaurants in the airport? Beginning to think it'll never happen.Term 3 (Cebu) , has some decent offerings. The other two haven't changed at all, at least in the last 5 years. Neither is a good place to spend a long wait, which is probably why NAIA is consistently rated one of the worst international airports. Having said that, it is the gateway to a number of memorable good times!
FreebieFan
05-10-12, 02:03
Term 3 (Cebu) , has some decent offerings. The other two haven't changed at all, at least in the last 5 years. Neither is a good place to spend a long wait, which is probably why NAIA is consistently rated one of the worst international airports. Having said that, it is the gateway to a number of memorable good times!Having spent 2. 5 hours in Term 3 last week I would endorse that comment.
First, the gates are endlessly changed and of course " we apologise etc etc blah blah are also endlessly announced.
Second, the announcement are "boomed out" at full volume so god help you if you are trying to rest (frm sexual exertions?). Because as sure as eggs are eggs, you will learn that " due to airport authorities decision, flight to Bangkok, Kl, taipei, Singapore etcetc gate has now been changed.
Third, there are no bathrooms anywhere near the gates.
And fourth, its so nice to know that on cebu pacific, we are "guests". Were not passengers as we are on every other airline worldwide, here we are "guests".
If only we were treated as such. Guess the airline run by children wants to be different, so yes, in cebupacificworld we are guests.
Thanks for the link. A very good read indeed. I have to admit, in one of my less lucid moments of insanity, I brought a fold-up bicycle to Manila, and Cebu. Oddly enough, if you read the link, I rode it from Ermita all the way to Quiapo and M. Palace, places David Byrne also visited.
Oh, I don't know. This read made me laugh.
http://journal.davidbyrne.com/2005/12/philippines_mar.html
Guys,
Any massage parlours with extra in Alabang area that you could recommend?
And fourth, its so nice to know that on cebu pacific, we are "guests". Were not passengers as we are on every other airline worldwide, here we are "guests".
If only we were treated as such. Guess the airline run by children wants to be different, so yes, in cebupacificworld we are guests.Freebie,
At the end of the day it comes down to one thing and that is money. The margins an airline operates on are VERY slim, and since almost all of us look for the cheapest fare first. Well you get what you pay for in almost everything. (This does not apply to the most popular male purchase / rental. Pussy, where the most expensive rarely turns out to be "worth" the price paid. At least in my experience)
I will guarantee that if you pay for a first class seat on Cathay you will have an entirely different experience. I am not trying to be "flip" about this, but I am trying to make a concerted effort to bring my expectations more in line with the price paid for my ticket. The other thing I am realizing is that with all the add on fees now,"low cost, ain't what it used to be" and in many cases winds being more expensive (that word again) than one of the legacy carriers.
There is no problem for driving inside Metro Manila if you're used to that.
As a foreigner living here in Metro, I drive every day and there is absolutely no problems.
-Yes, the roads are bad.
-Yes, no one has actual driving skills.
-Yes, there is beggars everywhere.
-Yes, during typhoons and heavy rains everything floods.
Still if you know how to go with the flow (don't mean the river flow) , it will be just fine.
And guys, if you need a car with or without a driver, just pm me.
Having driven a bit around Manila, I can tell you getting a bike would be an exceptionally bad idea. Travelling distances across Manila are generally long and the roads are very poorly maintained. A large portion of the driving population (including my good self) has no driver's license and even those who do have one don't display the driving skills to merit a license. If you stop at traffic lights, the beggars and roadside merchants will accost you. During typhoon season the roads become rivers. And a close-to-retirement kano riding a scooter will make a ripe target for crime. The whole concept is risky to say the least. Enjoy, AsianRain
FreebieFan
05-11-12, 02:27
Freebie,
At the end of the day it comes down to one thing and that is money. The margins an airline operates on are VERY slim, and since almost all of us look for the cheapest fare first. Well you get what you pay for in almost everything. (This does not apply to the most popular male purchase / rental. Pussy, where the most expensive rarely turns out to be "worth" the price paid. At least in my experience)
I will guarantee that if you pay for a first class seat on Cathay you will have an entirely different experience. I am not trying to be "flip" about this, but I am trying to make a concerted effort to bring my expectations more in line with the price paid for my ticket. The other thing I am realizing is that with all the add on fees now,"low cost, ain't what it used to be" and in many cases winds being more expensive (that word again) than one of the legacy carriers.Sky, you are totally right. We pay for what we get. I spent a long time in KL so used Airasia a lot, and whilst they too have their shortcomings, at least the airport experience wasnt as bad as terminal 3. I guess my whinge about Cebu Pac was that it could be so much better if someone looked at seeing low cost improvements. The design is the design, its done, but the booming voice in the announcement could well be regulated. Anyways, totally agree, I get what I pay for not what I hope I pay for.
Fast Eddie 48
05-17-12, 14:14
Sky, you are totally right. We pay for what we get. I spent a long time in KL so used Airasia a lot, and whilst they too have their shortcomings, at least the airport experience wasnt as bad as terminal 3. I guess my whinge about Cebu Pac was that it could be so much better if someone looked at seeing low cost improvements. The design is the design, its done, but the booming voice in the announcement could well be regulated. Anyways, totally agree, I get what I pay for not what I hope I pay for.To freebie fan.
I just fly from KL to Manila with cebu pacific this week one way cost is 139 USD not a bad 3 hr flight plane is 70 % full, I was going to take Air asia but the flight is 6. 30 am to Clark too early for me, cebu pacific is making profit I do understand high fuelcost but problem is the online reservation system and all the hidden charge they have.
Fast Eddie 48
Viajando Musico
05-20-12, 17:26
To freebie fan.
I just fly from KL to Manila with cebu pacific this week one way cost is 139 USD not a bad 3 hr flight plane is 70 % full, I was going to take Air asia but the flight is 6. 30 am to Clark too early for me, cebu pacific is making profit I do understand high fuelcost but problem is the online reservation system and all the hidden charge they have.
Fast Eddie 48All the low cost airlines have their ways of getting you here and there if you are not very careful from booking the ticket all the way through the end of your trip. Charges on seat selection (seat selection is a joke with Ryan Air) , priority boarding. Last week, I paid a hefty 50 Euro fine for a hand carry bag that is 1 kilo over weight with Ryan Air in Europe. They even punishyou around 60 Euros if you don't check in on line instead check in at their counter before the flight. Agreed "You get what you paid for", but with Ryan Air, I think dignity was not included in the price either. At least I believe Cebu Pacific is a little better on this category.
Member #4698
05-20-12, 19:54
I just fly from KL to Manila with cebu pacific this week one way cost is 139 USD not a bad 3 hr flight plane is 70 % full, I was going to take Air asia but the flight is 6. 30 am to Clark too early for me, cebu pacific is making profit I do understand high fuelcost but problem is the online reservation system and all the hidden charge they have.Fast Eddie 48The 6:45 Air Asia flight is a ball buster, to be sure. I plan on taking a girl ST from BC or TC the night before, then having everything packed and ready to go for my 4am wakeup. I will get some more shut eye on the plane, but the good part is $78 Kul to Clark and I go through immigration at Clark not Manila. Arrival is 10:30am so I will have the entire day to relax and get geared up for the evening festivities. I am also taking an Air Asia flight from Clark to Palawan. I don't know; if I can avoid the madness at MNL then I will. I feel the same way about Suvarnabhumi.
Wicked Roger
05-20-12, 20:22
The 6:45 Air Asia flight is a ball buster, to be sure. I plan on taking a girl ST from BC or TC the night before, then having everything packed and ready to go for my 4am wakeup. I will get some more shut eye on the plane, but the good part is $78 Kul to Clark and I go through immigration at Clark not Manila. Arrival is 10:30am so I will have the entire day to relax and get geared up for the evening festivities. I am also taking an Air Asia flight from Clark to Palawan. I don't know; if I can avoid the madness at MNL then I will. I feel the same way about Suvarnabhumi.Immigration at Clark is becoming painful as well based on what I read and what I have been told, especially if you have a lady with you (she gets the grief mainly but there are reports of some expats / visitors getting some grief as well). Clearly the immigration officials are not able to earn their commissions as before so are taking their frustration (jealously) out on tourists and pinays
GoodEnough
05-20-12, 22:20
I flew back to Manila today, on a flight fromm Bangkok that left LOS at 11:35 PM (12:35 AM Philippines time) and landed at 3:30 AM at the PAL terminal. I was surprised and quite pleased that passport control took all of 5 minutes, and within 20 minutes after deplanning I was trudging to the domestic terminal to begin a 4 hour wait for the flight to Davao. All in all however, it was a smooth, painless experience. Apparently, my views of Suvarnabumi differ from that of my friend WR. I find the Bangkok airport attractive, remarkably efficient and also painless. Given that my knees are beginning to creak, I also appreciate the multiple people movers. The transporation arrangements governing my recent trip were totally hassle-free.
GE
I flew back to Manila today, on a flight fromm Bangkok that left LOS at 11:35 PM (12:35 AM Philippines time) and landed at 3:30 AM at the PAL terminal. I was surprised and quite pleased that passport control took all of 5 minutes, and within 20 minutes after deplanning I was trudging to the domestic terminal to begin a 4 hour wait for the flight to Davao. All in all however, it was a smooth, painless experience. Apparently, my views of Suvarnabumi differ from that of my friend WR. I find the Bangkok airport attractive, remarkably efficient and also painless. Given that my knees are beginning to creak, I also appreciate the multiple people movers. The transporation arrangements governing my recent trip were totally hassle-free.I took the very same flight plan as GE except that I travelled the day before his flight.
I can wholeheartedly concur with his views regarding Suvarnabumi. I spent 10 hours waiting there after my connecting flight from Vientiane, and it was as much a pleasurable experience as waiting in an airport for 10 hours can be. I love the range of coffee shops and food outlets so my time was well spent.
My negative was the rather poor PAL in-flight service and "delivered" by several of the ugliest and fattest flight attendants in the fleet.
Having experienced Thai Air service from Manila to BKK to Vientiane and back to BKK again, it was a definite drop in class to find myself on PAL for the final leg.
I note with some glee that the new majority (or near enough) owners of PAL (San Miguel no less) , plan to revamp the airline.
I chuckled to notice in the press release that, in defiance of being politically correct, they stated that they will buy more new planes and "employ young, attractive women flight attendants and outfit them in attractive uniforms".
I certainly cannot complain about that. One of the attractions of flying Cebu Pacific is the plethora of young, nubile flight attendants wearing those very attractive T Shirts and shorts.
GoodEnough
05-21-12, 08:44
My balloon of elation at being back got deflated today, almost as soon as I got into the country. The PAL flight from Bangkok to Manila left on time, and, though I flew Business Class, I declined the meal service having eaten fairly well at the Royal Thai lounge, to which PAL Business Class Travelers have access. We arrived only to be told, that because we arrived "early" (by about 40 minutes), there was no one to operate the passenger bridge, so we would have to take a bus. At that point I knew I was back, and I suffered being crammed like an extra sardine into a shabby, un-airconditioned bus that took us to Immigration.
Passport Control and Customs were no hassle, and by about 4:10 AM, there I was, outside the international PAL Terminal, trying, in the absence of any signs, helpful personnel or announcements, to make my way to the domestic terminal. I finally figured it out and, with my declining knees, it was a hell of a long walk.
By 4:30, I had received my boarding pass for the 9 AM flight, and was seated in Tinderbox, having a capuccino and a cigarette, and wondering if I would be able to stay awake for the next four hours until boarding time. At about 8 o'clock, PAL made an announcement that free lunch vouchers were being handed out to Davao-bound passengers, which I knew did not bode well for an on-time departure. So I walked to the gate, since PAL hadn't announced any delay, only to be told by the contract service provider staff that the plane was now scheduled to depart at 11:40 due to some vague "mechanical difficulties." Without belaboring the point, the flight finally took off at about 12:15. The the delay had nothing to do with mechannical difficulties unless the inability to manage an airline effectively can be attributed to such. Given that the 747s PAL flies are shabby and about 30 years old, I guess that mechanical difficulties would recur fairly often.
What totally pissed me off was that one of the young cabin crew told me that he and his colleagues had received calls / texts at 4 that morning informing them of the delay. Yet PAL couldn't be bothered informing its passengers. For the first time in my life, I actually saw Filipino passengers exploding at the gate agents and demanding to see a PAL Manager, who was, strangely,"not available," so the poor contract gate agent had to take the brunt of the vitriol.
My driver on the Davao end of things told me the flight was also delayed by about 4 hours yesterday. PAL apparently simply doesn't care at all.
Welcome home GE.
Not sure where to post this, but this thread seems the most appropriate.
I'm trying to get an item from the UK to Manila. Does anyone have any personal experiences with the following balikbayan box services?
-balikbayan-box. Co. Uk.
-belwooduk. Co. Uk.
-highlightexpress.
-forexcargouk.
Prices are similar across the board, so I'm just trying to pick out the most timely / reliable service.
Captain America
05-22-12, 00:28
Most services are reliable, but NEVER pack anything expensive ( $100) , it may not get there.
Not sure where to post this, but this thread seems the most appropriate.
I'm trying to get an item from the UK to Manila. Does anyone have any personal experiences with the following balikbayan box services?
-balikbayan-box. Co. Uk.
-belwooduk. Co. Uk.
-highlightexpress.
-forexcargouk.
Prices are similar across the board, so I'm just trying to pick out the most timely / reliable service.
Captain America
05-22-12, 00:30
I've had good luck at the MB Cafe lately. Seems like the service level is up and the girls are pretty cute. And I don't even pull from upstairs since I've met too many snobby girls up there. I've met several that I would recommend and have phone numbers for if anyone is interested, including a twosome that is up fr some lesbian action.
Captain America
05-22-12, 00:34
GE, many people believ PAL stands for "Philippine Airlines". More accurately, it's actualy " Plane Always Late".
I can undertsand that you're upset, tehre's a lot of fun to be had in manila if you would've known you had 8 hours to kill.
Welcome home GE.[/QUOTE]
Cunning Stunt
05-22-12, 10:06
I'm trying to get an item from the UK to Manila. Does anyone have any personal experiences with the following balikbayan box services?I send balikbayan boxes nearly every year. One company which I would recommend is Pooten's, based in Walthamstow. I have used them several times and never encountered a problem or lost anything.
PM me if you want their contact info.
As you say, they are much of a muchness. Pooten's charge £90 for 3 medium size boxes (which they supply) or £110 for an enormous jumbo size.
Fast Eddie 48
05-24-12, 04:18
The 6:45 Air Asia flight is a ball buster, to be sure. I plan on taking a girl ST from BC or TC the night before, then having everything packed and ready to go for my 4am wakeup. I will get some more shut eye on the plane, but the good part is $78 Kul to Clark and I go through immigration at Clark not Manila. Arrival is 10:30am so I will have the entire day to relax and get geared up for the evening festivities. I am also taking an Air Asia flight from Clark to Palawan. I don't know; if I can avoid the madness at MNL then I will. I feel the same way about Suvarnabhumi.To natty
I check the price of that flight it was about 149 USD one way, I might of taking that if I can get the 78 USD price but getting up 4 am sucks the earlist KLIA train is at 4. 33 am from Kl central, there been many small airline going out of business and canceling route so cebu pacific and airasia been rising their price because of high fuel cost.
Fast Eddie 48
Recently I was in Manila, met a 19yr at DIA, fm Manila itself, she came to my hotel with in 1 hour of phnone call, reguler girl, helping her mom in making some food items for sale near their home in Manila.
Shw was excellent vey horney, nice big firm naturla boobs, her pussy tightness techniques is unique and lovly. In addition to my cock she lovs my finnger fucking too, my 2 fingrs deep inside her pussy and when she is coming to orgasom, o my god it was such a tight squeeze my fingers almost broken!
What a lovly experience, paid her 3000 for the first night and 2500 for the 2nd.
Will psot photos soon.
TMT
Recently I was in Manila, met a 19yr at DIA, fm Manila itself, she came to my hotel with in 1 hour of phnone call, reguler girl, helping her mom in making some food items for sale near their home in Manila.
Shw was excellent vey horney, nice big firm naturla boobs, her pussy tightness techniques is unique and lovly. In addition to my cock she lovs my finnger fucking too, my 2 fingrs deep inside her pussy and when she is coming to orgasom, o my god it was such a tight squeeze my fingers almost broken!
What a lovly experience, paid her 3000 for the first night and 2500 for the 2nd.
Will psot photos soon.
TMTDia girls do not command bargirl prices. I was in Philippines for three weeks and had fun with 5 dia girls. All were extremely GFE. Two were my previous girlfriends I had spent time with. My rule is pay 1000 Peso per day + food + some shopping to buy gifts. Ofcourse taken some to malls, movies and discoes. None really want to drink.
All were very horny but after 3-4 days of continuous fucking got sore in the pussy. Helped by lubricant survived rest of the time. Very appreciative of the gifts and money and good time. These girls never get to have a nice lifestyle especially the young ones. None have dated a foreigner as they said. Hard to believe them sometimes but their naivety proved that they are not used to staying in nice hotels. They loved the buffett breakfast. As usual Philippino people do not like large meals. They like to eat small meals many times a day.
Girl no. 1 was my previous Ormoc girl, flew her into Manila and took her to AC which she wanted to see. The girl has a younger 18 year old sister and I told her she can sell her cherry for lots of money in AC. Who knows?
Girl no. 2 from Manila. Cute but small frame. Not very experienced. Had one BF before but hardly any sex before. She was surprised I could fuck her lots of times thanks to viagra.
Girl no. 3 from cebu, flew her in to Manila. Nice tall girl with big boobs. First time in Manila.
Girl no. 4 from Manila. Just had a baby 6 months ago. She said life is hard with a baby.
Girl no. 5 staying in Manila working as a babysitter. From Samar. Big natural stand up boobs. Got very jealous when I got texts from other girls.
All were 19-21 years old. They all said they are looking for sponsors and hopefully somebody to take them out of the country. None demanded anything. Acted quite happy to stay and fuck. These girls seem to be homebodies not used to high life.
Girl no. 1 was my previous Ormoc girl, flew her into Manila and took her to AC which she wanted to see.Hey Sammon, I'm asking this question in the open forum since your answer may be of general interest. I've noticed that you have flown several girls into Manila to see you. I've also wondered how to work this. Do you send them cash and have them purchase the ticket? If so, have you had a problem with girls who take the money but come up with an excuse not to come visit you? Or after they get there are just no fun and you are stuck with them?
Hey Sammon, I'm asking this question in the open forum since your answer may be of general interest. I've noticed that you have flown several girls into Manila to see you. I've also wondered how to work this. Do you send them cash and have them purchase the ticket? If so, have you had a problem with girls who take the money but come up with an excuse not to come visit you? Or after they get there are just no fun and you are stuck with them?I am against flying girls around as I belive you can find what you seek in Manila. Anyway if you must fly a girl in I suggest you get her details go to a travel agent while in phils and get them to do it. It will cost you few peso more then doing it yourself BUT the girl does NOT get your details and you don't need to send a copy of your credit card (some airlines can ask for it). THe way it works is, the travel agent books the ticket, girl gets an email that she can print and will only need to rock up at the airport in time to get her boarding pass. Ticket is NON refundable and she will NOT be able to get the money. I send tickets to the once I have meet in the past or I am sure that will turn up. I have never had anyone not turn up yet, usually sending her a ticket means you are generous and she is thinking of the tip and good times she will have.
I am against flying girls around as I belive you can find what you seek in Manila. Anyway if you must fly a girl in I suggest you get her details go to a travel agent while in phils and get them to do it. It will cost you few peso more then doing it yourself BUT the girl does NOT get your details and you don't need to send a copy of your credit card (some airlines can ask for it). THe way it works is, the travel agent books the ticket, girl gets an email that she can print and will only need to rock up at the airport in time to get her boarding pass. Ticket is NON refundable and she will NOT be able to get the money. I send tickets to the once I have meet in the past or I am sure that will turn up. I have never had anyone not turn up yet, usually sending her a ticket means you are generous and she is thinking of the tip and good times she will have.Great advice, McDon. Thanks!
Member #4698
05-24-12, 20:51
To natty
I check the price of that flight it was about 149 USD one way, I might of taking that if I can get the 78 USD price but getting up 4 am sucks the earlist KLIA train is at 4. 33 am from Kl central, there been many small airline going out of business and canceling route so cebu pacific and airasia been rising their price because of high fuel cost. Fast Eddie 48Hi Eddie, for what dates did you try to book a seat on the Air Asia Kul / CRK flight? Staggered pricing is a big hurdle to overcome with all the airlines these days. As soon as the allotment of a certain number discount seats start to sell, the price category is closed down and available seat prices go up. Prices drop drastically again in the last days before a flight for any unsold seats. The airlines are bastards. They don't care about the customer.
I booked my Kul / Crk flight more than 6 months in advance so I was able to get Air Asia's ' Economy Promo' fare. The breakdown was:
Basic Ticket: Flight – 43MYR + Airport Tax – 32MYR = 75MYR.
Extras: 40 kg advance baggage check in – 100MYR + Priority seating – 30MYR + Processing fee – 5MYR = 135MYR.
Total – 210MYR (which equals $68 not $78 my error).
I always make my travel plans way in advance because I look forward to the next trip so much that I can't help myself and because of the air fare discounts. Additionally, in the course of my business, I earn a lot of miles with the big American carriers, United and Delta. I have found through bitter experience that if you want to use their miles to book an international flight of reasonable duration like 20 hours to HKG or 23 hours to Manila from Miami, it is imperative to book 9 months in advance. Otherwise they will try to put you on a 30 to 39 hour hell flight to Asia with stops everywhere in between. If travelling throughout Asia were not so pleasurable, I would tell the airlines to go fuck themselves.
And booking reasonable rates at 4* & 5* hotels is another game the travel industry forces the discerning consumer to play, but I won't go into that now.
flown several girls into Manila to see you. I've also wondered how to work this. Do you send them cash and have them purchase the ticket? If so, have you had a problem with girls who take the money but come up with an excuse not to come?Use frequent flyer miles for girls. If plans change, or last minute glitch, just cancel ticket and redeposit. Full refund.
AAA Hunter
05-25-12, 02:16
Hey Sammon, I'm asking this question in the open forum since your answer may be of general interest. I've noticed that you have flown several girls into Manila to see you. I've also wondered how to work this. Do you send them cash and have them purchase the ticket? If so, have you had a problem with girls who take the money but come up with an excuse not to come visit you? Or after they get there are just no fun and you are stuck with them?Not sure about Sammon, but for me, I don't ever sending them cash or buying them tickets directly. I usually buy tickets for them through an agency (lots of them in the malls) to keep my identity private. Alternatively, if I was staying at an high end hotel, I would have the concierge buy the tickets for me. Also, I don't ever fly a girl if I have not met them bcos there are plenty of girl in every town and it's not worth the trouble.
Fast Eddie 48
05-25-12, 03:09
Hi Eddie, for what dates did you try to book a seat on the Air Asia Kul / CRK flight? Staggered pricing is a big hurdle to overcome with all the airlines these days. As soon as the allotment of a certain number discount seats start to sell, the price category is closed down and available seat prices go up. Prices drop drastically again in the last days before a flight for any unsold seats. The airlines are bastards. They don't care about the customer.
I booked my Kul / Crk flight more than 6 months in advance so I was able to get Air Asia's ' Economy Promo' fare. The breakdown was:
Basic Ticket: Flight – 43MYR + Airport Tax – 32MYR = 75MYR.
Extras: 40 kg advance baggage check in – 100MYR + Priority seating – 30MYR + Processing fee – 5MYR = 135MYR.
Total – 210MYR (which equals $68 not $78 my error).
I always make my travel plans way in advance because I look forward to the next trip so much that I can't help myself and because of the air fare discounts. Additionally, in the course of my business, I earn a lot of miles with the big American carriers, United and Delta. I have found through bitter experience that if you want to use their miles to book an international flight of reasonable duration like 20 hours to HKG or 23 hours to Manila from Miami, it is imperative to book 9 months in advance. Otherwise they will try to put you on a 30 to 39 hour hell flight to Asia with stops everywhere in between. If travelling throughout Asia were not so pleasurable, I would tell the airlines to go fuck themselves.
And booking reasonable rates at 4* & 5* hotels is another game the travel industry forces the discerning consumer to play, but I won't go into that now.To natty
I try to book the flight end of April for may12 departure about 2 week ahead and I book with Cebu paciific to Manila instead for 139 USD a early evening flight arrive to manila around 10, 30 pm,
I have over 220, 000 mile with Cathay pacific they want you to book 6 month ahead most of the time I just use mile to upgrade to business class and they are making alot of profit and cutting back on customer service.
Fast Eddie 48
Fast Eddie 48
05-25-12, 03:48
I was in MBC last night most of the girl are dogs the good looking one want 2500 p for ST didn't even want to bargin just move on to the next one, most I ever paid in MBC for st is 1200 p, if you take your time you will found one you like for that and most monger other than the korean will paid that king of price, I was walking out saw a girl walking out she is heading home to Cavite offer her 1000 p for ST for 0ne hr she accept and we head back to Las Palmas hotel at Mabini good BBBJ 23 yr old no baby but she stole 2 bag of dried mango and even a roll of toilet paper from the room didn't notice until the next morning.
Fast Eddie 48
Hey Sammon, I'm asking this question in the open forum since your answer may be of general interest. I've noticed that you have flown several girls into Manila to see you. I've also wondered how to work this. Do you send them cash and have them purchase the ticket? If so, have you had a problem with girls who take the money but come up with an excuse not to come visit you? Or after they get there are just no fun and you are stuck with them?IMHO I have been duped only once through many years. That time I sent money to the girl to buy tickets. She gave me stories why she cannot meet me. I know she scammed me.
Since then I book the ticket and send only small amount of money for her to pay for transportation and airport charges. Normally I do not have any problem with Cebu Pacific but this time I got a cheap ticket on Zest Air. Zest Air wanted copy of the credit card (Front and Back) when girl went to check in. She said supervisor felt sorry for her and told her she could get on the flight provided she shows the copy of credit card on return. So I made copy and gave it to you her. As it turned out they never bothered.
These are the girls I have chatted for atleast couple of months and got to know them online. It does not mean anything but I bet that with the promise of money and gifts they would come. All of them have showed up so far without fail. Ofcourse they realize that they cannot cash in the ticket.
My planning starts atleast 2 months before I go. I look for the cheapest flights, schedules etc. I should get a nobel prize for scheduling. Ha ha!
My trip includes detailed planning as regards how many nights each girl stays with me, timing of their departure, booking of hotels or change of hotels in some cases etc. By chatting I have already figured out certain things about the girl. I have seen their body, boobs and face and ofcourse demeanor. I also make out if they are nice girls or they are bargirls. Generally I do not care about their life history. I tell them I am looking for fun only.
Some girls have reservations in meeting me by flying into another city. One time a Butuan girl flew into Cebu. My flight was delayed and she was worried sick crying. Although she knew what flight I am taking, these girls are not experienced enough to find out if my flight has landed or not. Since that experience I tend to book their flight a day after I arrive although this time Ormoc girl met me at the airport in Manila same night I landed. Ofcourse she was my previous conquest and little smarter.
My advice to people thinking of flying girls in from the provinces is get to know them first by chatting. Do not send money for them to buy tickets. Send only small amount of money for 200 pesos airport charge and about 1000 pesos for transportation and food.
In my case I usually take unlocked cell phones and cameras to each of the girl as a gift. You can find cameras for $50 at walmart and cell phones at Amazon, e bay cheap. With the promise of gifts which they cannot afford to buy gives them a added incentive to meet me and make me happy. Usually I limit a girl to 4-5 nights of stay if I am meeting her for the first time. Reason is we may get bored of each other and also their pussy gets sore by continuous sex.
There are some dissappoints along the way. Some girl look good on the cam but not in person. Some have smelly pussy. Some are not clean with body odor etc. Overall these cases are minimal in experience. Most of the girls I have met are clean country girls and have been good companions. Ofcourse defintetely not used to high lifestyle and foreign food. So I bring the jolleebee chicken and rice which they are happy with.
I am really tired of bargirls and their attitude. Having a innocent young girl as my GF all the time staying with me makes me happy and they are appreciative as well. Many have fallen in love with me but I remind them that I am a butterfly. Ofcourse all girls get jealous if they love you. Phi girls learn fast that foreigners like sex without any committments. Ofcourse they tell me their aunt or cousin got married to a foreigner etc.
To add to AAA's post, I'm pretty sure a travel agent can arrange a non-refundable ticket. Tell a gal that it is nonrefundable in order to increase the chance that she shows up, or if you want to test her, don't tell her. I would also say to any newbies, that any kind of date with a Filipina should be confirmed and reconfirmed. Carrot and stick."I'm really looking forward to meeting you, so don't be late. I'll wait only 15 minutes." Be creative, keep it fun, but be a bit firm. Of course adjust your strategy depending on her personality. And yours. Treating her like a princess can work wonders, but you need to know when to step up and be the king. If not, you're just the joker. Okay, back to transportation costs.
I had a friend who took no precautions with a Cebu bargirl. And she met him in Thailand. That was a surprise to everyone except him and her! Ha, ha.
I had a gal fly from MM to Cebu on her own dime. She was a hotel reception worker. As promised, I reimbursed her upon arrival and paid all expenses thereafter. Her first airplane flight and she was tickled pink. No pun intended. She's (apparently) happily married somewhere in the west now. Funny how that happens.
On the other hand I've had gals who couldn't or wouldn't pay (or borrow) a few hundred peso to get to my location, even though I promised to pay all expenses. When they don't know me, I can understand, but at least two were ladies I had spent a lot of time and money on. Those inscrutable Filipinas. X.
Not sure about Sammon, but for me, I don't ever sending them cash or buying them tickets directly. I usually buy tickets for them through an agency (lots of them in the malls) to keep my identity private. Alternatively, if I was staying at an high end hotel, I would have the concierge buy the tickets for me. Also, I don't ever fly a girl if I have not met them bcos there are plenty of girl in every town and it's not worth the trouble.
I buy a tickey fro a girl to fly on Cebu Pacific. I can buy the ticket wherever I am.
I then email the e-ticket to her. The airline does not ask for the credit card at checkin. She just needs valid photo I'd.
The tickey is non refundable, so she can not cash it in.
I send her money for local transportation, airport departure tax, and some snacks. Plus enough to get a taxi from her destination to our hotel in case I am caught.
Works almost eveery time.
Gangles
HotShaneHot
05-27-12, 09:54
My week in Manila.
HotShaneHot
05-27-12, 09:59
She was so much fun.
HotShaneHot
05-27-12, 10:04
Only been with 1 man befor. Never white man.
I had to show her all an she did get an A+
HotShaneHot
05-27-12, 10:18
Wow I have never had a rim job like this befor.
So hard an deap. To I cum in her mouth.
HotShaneHot
05-27-12, 10:23
I love her to rim me. Then I cum in her mouth.
HotShaneHot
05-27-12, 10:27
She has nice tits.
There look good in photo
HotShaneHot
05-27-12, 10:32
I was with her for 6 days.
We did fuck more there 8 times aday.
Maybe 4 fuck pussy.
Blow jobs 3 aday.
Fuck ass 1 time aday
HotShaneHot
05-27-12, 10:36
I hate manila. But I do miss pussy there.
But I back home in Thailand now.
So time for some more thai pussy
Brazil Traveller
05-27-12, 15:14
Hi,
I am planning to do my firt trip to the Philippines and was thinking about June, but I read it is rainy season there. Do you think it rains too much in June to be able to enjoy Manila and especially the beaches of eg Puerto Galera?
Many thanks!
Undercoverh
05-27-12, 16:27
I came across a website for KTVs in Malate, (manilaktv. Com) The girls on the website for several of the KTVs look cute. The price is listed for drinks with the girl, time with the girl, etc. But it does not include any mention of a barfine. I went to you tube and looked at some of the clubs and the girls look fun. I am not generally a KTV guy, but I am looking to try something new. On this website, I searched and did not find much about the cost of kTVs in Malate.
Question, has anyone tried these KTVs with names like Angele Heart, Mysterious Lady, Jers, Stancia, Club 310, Club 930, Club F1, etc? If yes, what is the price for barfine? Also, could anyone recommend going to these clubs and / or list anyone of the clubs they like? The girls look cute in their nice dress, high heals, makeup, etc. Also, does anyone know of a nice girlfreindly hotel in Malate near these clubs. I like that these girls dress nice and look like ladies. I am willing to pay a little more for that and a nice place to relax before I pick the girl. But if there is no takeout or barfine, I will not waste my time. Thanks for any feedback.
As an example, here is the pricing for one of the KTVs, "Mysterious Lady"
576 Pedro Gil Cor. Jorge Bocobo St., Malate, Manila
Hours: 7:00pm~2:00am
First 90 minutes: P500
Additional 60 minutes: P300
GRO (Guest Relation Officer): P300 ea.
Ladies Drinks: P250 ea.
Tax: 12%
Service Charge: 10%
Just to sit with the girl for 90 minutes, it looks like it will cost around 1,500 (drinks, her time, tax, etc.) Plus the barfine, but how much is the barfine???
P.S. When I arrive in Manila, I will spend 7 days with my 19 yo girlfriend at our apartment. But, before I do that, I just want a few days on my own meeting some new pussy of a nice young Filipina, and I do not want any BS. I have also have a 44 year old Filipina I have been banging for the past few years. But she is getting older and I am tried of her talk about us moving in together. I do not mind living with a young Filipina, but no way in hell I will live with an old one. Worest case, if the suggestions come back that KTVs are not worth it the price, I guess I will spend 2 days with the 44 yo and seven days with the 19 yo. Both give good sex, BBBJ, sex with no condom, real GFE, real love, and no STDs. Some guys may wonder why pay for sex with a KTV girl when you have two that give it to you. Hum, I guess, like most guys, I am always looking for new wet pussy. Also, having girlfriends that are Filipina still cost money, dinner, movies, etc. No matter how u look at it, pussy is never for free.
Member #4698
05-27-12, 18:22
I came across a website for KTVs in Malate, (manilaktv. Com) The girls on the website for several of the KTVs look cute. The price is listed for drinks with the girl, time with the girl, etc. But it does not include any mention of a bar fine. I went to you tube and looked at some of the clubs and the girls look fun. I am not generally a KTV guy, but I am looking to try something new. On this website, I searched and did not find much about the cost of kTVs in Malate.
Question, has anyone tried these KTVs with names like Angele Heart, Mysterious Lady, Jers, Stancia, Club 310, Club 930, Club F1, etc? If yes, what is the price for bar fine? Also, could anyone recommend going to these clubs and / or list anyone of the clubs they like? The girls look cute in their nice dress, high heels, makeup, etc.Here is the deal with the Malate KTVs: you pay for drinks and a girl or girls of your choice to sit with you and entertain you. It is not cheap. There is no bar fine. There is no hanky panky. If the girl likes you, she will give you her phone number or arrange to see you on her time off. It is a bit of a gamble, but not too much of one if you have game and the reward is big although delayed.
I tried out Club F1 the last time I was in Malate in March. The place was small and intimate. They try to arrange the couches to maximize privacy. The host was very friendly and explained the system to me. I was the only white guy in the place. There were approximately 20 girls or hostesses and like the web sites, the girls are dressed very nice in formal evening dresses and look very pretty.
I was given the lineup. Now I am a into nicely dressed Asian girls to begin with. It is a turn on for me and since all the girls were smiling at me and quite a few of the girls were very attractive; it was very hard to choose. I ended up picking a very pretty girl named Kyra and she sat down beside me on my couch. She was very lady like and a cut above any of the girls I see at MBC. In fact I would say the lineup is much better than MBC although much smaller. There is no comparison. I would also say the lineup was at least as good as Firehouse over at Edsa Entertainment although the average age might be a little older at F1.
Now here are the rules (as best I can remember). This will turn off a lot of guys. There is a drink minimum, but a customer can order anything he likes to fulfill that minimum. I forgot what it was. There is a sitting fee for the girl – I think it was 600p for an hour and lady drinks are extra. I had ordered a SM light and the girl after seeing what I ordered, asked for a beer too. Her drink came in a glass and was twice the price of my beer which was poured straight from a bottle. Later on I ordered a second beer for myself. There is no bar fine!
Kyra and I started with the basic conversation. Overtime she told me about herself; she had a college degree in accounting, she used to work in Robinsons but came to F1 Club to make more money, she did not have a kid, but lived with her mom approximately 90 minutes from Malate, she was 26, yada yada. Slowly overtime I started to feel a positive vibe coming from her. We started holding hands and continued to tell each other about ourselves. I was enjoying myself for some reason. I guess I liked the girl. There was no sexy business allowed in the KTV. In the middle of our talk, she asked if I wanted to see her again and I said yes. She wrote her number down and gave it to me. She told me the afternoon would be the best time to get together. She said she only had one day off a month. By the end of my hour, Kyra and I were getting real romantic, although I never fondled her, only lightly kissed her, held her hand and put my arm around her shoulders. The host came by and asked if I wanted another hour. I declined and paid my bill. I had accomplished what I had come for. The bill was around 1500p, I think, maybe a little more. I tipped the host and gave Kyra a little something too. I told Kyra I really liked her and I was glad we met. She gave me a sweet little kiss before I left. I thought she was a very pretty girl and I liked her, but I left F1 not knowing for sure if I was going to shag her.
Later back in my room, I texted Kyra and asked if she wanted to have lunch with me in the afternoon. She texted back, she would meet me in front of Robinsons at 2pm. She arrived wearing jeans and looked real good in everyday clothes. Long story short, after lunch I took her back to the Pan Pacific and bedded her. We had a great GFE BBFS session. We never talked money, but I placed 1500p in her purse while she combed her hair. This was my last night in Malate, I was heading to BKK the next day. I told Kyra I really liked her and wanted to see her again when I returned to Manila. We have been in contact through Yahoo Messenger and I do plan to look her up when I get back in late September. Sure she is a hooker, we all know that, but there are different levels of hooking and she is at a higher level it seems to me than most bar girls and a little lower on the scale than some of the stunners from AF1 and the Quezon Ave KTVs. Bottom line; I liked her and was glad I found her at F1. So if you guys want something a little nicer than the usual MBC FL, you have the time, and you don't mind making the initial investment of 1500p to meet the girl, then I recommend Club F1 and the other Malate KTVs. It's something to consider.
Cunning Stunt
05-27-12, 19:40
Both give good sex, BBBJ, sex with no condom, real GFE, real love, and no STDs.Assuming, of course, that they are both behaving themselves whilst you are not around. But we are all aware of the almost nun-like degree of celibacy and abstinence shown by Filipinas whilst their BF is away, so you are probably as safe as houses...lol.
I hate manila. But I do miss pussy there.
But I back home in Thailand now.
So time for some more thai pussyNow this gal looks yummy!
Where did you pick her up?
Undercoverh
05-28-12, 01:36
Assuming, of course, that they are both behaving themselves whilst you are not around. But we are all aware of the almost nun-like degree of celibacy and abstinence shown by Filipinas whilst their BF is away, so you are probably as safe as houses.lol.I know, some of you will write, but your Filipina is banging other guys when you not there. In some situations, that will happen. Like being married! How many of you guys out there know of a guy that was marreid and his wife was banging another guy. Hey, that may have happen to you. Also, the husband and wife lived in the same house. My point is, just because a guy is not with a women, does not mean she will automaticlly bang other guys. If a women want to do it, she will do it even if you live in the same house with her everyday.
With my girlfriend and many other young poor Filipinas, they know if a man is supporting them they have a good life. So why are they going to cheat with a local poor guy and live a difficult life. With my 19 year old girlfriend, I have told her point blank that if she is not faithful to me, she will be back living in a shack with no running water, no lights, and no food, etc. This sounds rough, but this is my insurance policy. Plus, I treat her nice and she loves me and I feel she is sincere. She cooks for me, cleans the house, gives me a bath, wash my cloths, etc. I have seen a lot of BS in my life, so I am good at spoting BS. And this young 19 filipina is legit.
For those guys who will want to wrtie a post in reponse to my statement about she loves me and why it is not ture, please do not waste your time.
Key point, true love is what will keep a woman from cheating on you and the fact that you treat her nice and take care of her. Unless she is a stupid hooker. Also, most important, my girlfriend is not a hooker. I would never trust a hooker in this situation and support her. The key is to find a young, nice, sweet girl, not the most pretty, that is simply looking for a man to love them. And take care of them. I have met a lot of Filipinas like this in my past 15 years of going to the Philippines.
The fact is, the Philippines has millions of hookers. But also, the Philippines has millions of nice Filipinas just looking for love. Also, there are lots of older Filipinas who are lonely and looking for love. A Filipina in her 40s will get no attention form the local guys in the Philippines. Again, I am not talking about hookers or game players. I am talking about nice regular Filipinas. My 44 year old Filipina is a manager at a major bank in the Philippines. She lives with her mom and two sisters in a nice condo. I have met her family and hang out with them many times. Taken them to dinner, etc. Her mom asked me once did I want to marry her daughter. My point is, her family knows me as her offical boyfriend. If the Filipina is a good woman and she truly loves you, she will do whatever she can to keep you.....which includes not "F" ing other guys.
When I first had sex with my 44 yo girlfriend (she was then 41) her pussy was so tight, really tight, even with her being wet. It was truly like fucking a virgin. It took me a while to get it in. Rason for her being tight, she had not had sex in 7 years. The fact is, lots of older Filipinas, especially the professional women, are not getting laid. I know, this sounds unreal to a western man, coming from a country where western, young and old women, fuck as a sport. But in many Asian countries, many older unmarried Asian women (40s, 50s, 60s) go without sex for long long time.
For mongers have been playing the pay for sex game a long time and have had bad relationships in their home country, tend to view all women as cheating bitches. The fact is, that is not true. So, do not be quick to judge or assume that if a guy has a filipina girlfriend she must cheat. Especially when you have never met her.
Many men make the mistake of meeting a hooker in a bar, falls in love, and then becomes angry when the giirl cheats. If a guy is in the Philippines and looking for a ture love..avoid at all cost bar girls. The chances of finding a nice sweet girl in the bar game is very very low. And until you find her, you will go through a lot of BS meeting the wrong bar girls. Bar girls are just for fun, that is it, nothing more. Many guys are shocked when their bar girlfriend cheats on time. Bare in mind, the bar girl nature is to "F" lots of men. As for online dating, that is hit and miss at best. For every 10 girls you meet online, 8 will be girls who practice BS regular. Ask for money, say they love you quickly, etc. Maybe 1 in 10 will be ligit.
Then, the question comes up, where is the best place to meet regular Filipinas. For me, both of my girlfriends I met while they were working on their job. My 19 yo works at a food stall in the mall and I met her there. My 44 year old, I met her when I had to go to the local bank several times to complete banking transactions. I simply showed interest in them as a person, I was nice, caring, and a gentlemen and I appeared sincere. Filipinas also like guys with a sense of humor. Behind closed doors, my 44 yo Filipina is playful, loving, and sweet. Also, I dress nice when I am out on the town in Manila. No, I do not wear gold and expense watchs. But I simply come across as a man who is doing well for himself. Regullar Filipinas like men who appear nice, neat, and like they have a regular job. I never dress like I am a tourist. These things have worked for me, your outcome may be different.
Undercoverh
05-28-12, 02:40
Here is the deal with the Malate KTVs: you pay for drinks and a girl or girls of your choice to sit with you and entertain you. It is not cheap. There is no bar fine. There is no hanky panky. If the girl likes you, she will give you her phone number or arrange to see you on her time off. It is a bit of a gamble, but not too much of one if you have game and the reward is big although delayed.
I tried out Club F1 the last time I was in Malate in March. The place was small and intimate. They try to arrange the couches to maximize privacy. The host was very friendly and explained the system to me. I was the only white guy in the place. There were approximately 20 girls or hostesses and like the web sites, the girls are dressed very nice in formal evening dresses and look very pretty.
I was given the lineup. Now I am a into nicely dressed Asian girls to begin with. It is a turn on for me and since all the girls were smiling at me and quite a few of the girls were very attractive; it was very hard to choose. I ended up picking a very pretty girl named Kyra and she sat down beside me on my couch. She was very lady like and a cut above any of the girls I see at MBC. In fact I would say the lineup is much better than MBC although much smaller. There is no comparison. I would also say the lineup was at least as good as Firehouse over at Edsa Entertainment although the average age might be a little older at F1.
Now here are the rules (as best I can remember). This will turn off a lot of guys. There is a drink minimum, but a customer can order anything he likes to fulfill that minimum. I forgot what it was. There is a sitting fee for the girl – I think it was 600p for an hour and lady drinks are extra. I had ordered a SM light and the girl after seeing what I ordered, asked for a beer too. Her drink came in a glass and was twice the price of my beer which was poured straight from a bottle. Later on I ordered a second beer for myself. There is no bar fine!
Kyra and I started with the basic conversation. Overtime she told me about herself; she had a college degree in accounting, she used to work in Robinsons but came to F1 Club to make more money, she did not have a kid, but lived with her mom approximately 90 minutes from Malate, she was 26, yada yada. Slowly overtime I started to feel a positive vibe coming from her. We started holding hands and continued to tell each other about ourselves. I was enjoying myself for some reason. I guess I liked the girl. There was no sexy business allowed in the KTV. In the middle of our talk, she asked if I wanted to see her again and I said yes. She wrote her number down and gave it to me. She told me the afternoon would be the best time to get together. She said she only had one day off a month. By the end of my hour, Kyra and I were getting real romantic, although I never fondled her, only lightly kissed her, held her hand and put my arm around her shoulders. The host came by and asked if I wanted another hour. I declined and paid my bill. I had accomplished what I had come for. The bill was around 1500p, I think, maybe a little more. I tipped the host and gave Kyra a little something too. I told Kyra I really liked her and I was glad we met. She gave me a sweet little kiss before I left. I thought she was a very pretty girl and I liked her, but I left F1 not knowing for sure if I was going to shag her.
Later back in my room, I texted Kyra and asked if she wanted to have lunch with me in the afternoon. She texted back, she would meet me in front of Robinsons at 2pm. She arrived wearing jeans and looked real good in everyday clothes. Long story short, after lunch I took her back to the Pan Pacific and bedded her. We had a great GFE BBFS session. We never talked money, but I placed 1500p in her purse while she combed her hair. This was my last night in Malate, I was heading to BKK the next day. I told Kyra I really liked her and wanted to see her again when I returned to Manila. We have been in contact through Yahoo Messenger and I do plan to look her up when I get back in late September. Sure she is a hooker, we all know that, but there are different levels of hooking and she is at a higher level it seems to me than most bar girls and a little lower on the scale than some of the stunners from AF1 and the Quezon Ave KTVs. Bottom line; I liked her and was glad I found her at F1. So if you guys want something a little nicer than the usual MBC FL, you have the time, and you don't mind making the initial investment of 1500p to meet the girl, then I recommend Club F1 and the other Malate KTVs. It's something to consider.Thanks for your reply and very good information. I agree with you on several points. I also like Asian girls dressed up, with make up, and in a nice club. Reminds of the clubs in Korea. However, the KTV clubs in Korea cost a whole lot more. Based on your write up, I will give the KTV a try just for fun. I think I will go to AF1 and / or Quezon Ave full service massage outlet during the day, and go to F1 at night. Thanks again.
HotShaneHot
05-28-12, 02:57
Now this gal looks yummy!
Where did you pick her up?DIA.
And yes so so yummy
Has anyone stayed at this hotel? And bigger question have you tried the massage, either in your room or I assume that they have a massage room you can go to where the gym is located. Prices? Any info is greatly appreciated.
Soapy Smith
05-29-12, 07:17
Hi,
I am planning to do my firt trip to the Philippines and was thinking about June, but I read it is rainy season there. Do you think it rains too much in June to be able to enjoy Manila and especially the beaches of eg Puerto Galera?
Many thanks!It rains in the Philippines. That's just the nature of things. Take an umbrella-and be a hero for your paid conquests by snuggling them in close under the umbrella on the way to the hotel. The hotel lobby walk of shame seems less troubling when both of you are soaking wet. The bigger problem is that airfare is sky high for this period because of all the traffic in Fil-Ams taking advantage of summer vacations. Even if you're not flying from the states, all fares in and out of the Phils are high when you buy a ticket this close to travel time.
Has anyone stayed at this hotel? And bigger question have you tried the massage, either in your room or I assume that they have a massage room you can go to where the gym is located. Prices? Any info is greatly appreciated.I live in Ortigas, Richmonde Hotel is a bit tired now as it is used by government agencies for lots of in-house seminars and workshops.
It is an easy walk to Shangri-la Mall and SM Megamall but these are not mongering destinations. You have a long drive south to Makati or EDSA International or across to Malate (MBC).
Hotel massages are a bit hit and miss, especially in places like Richmonde. Don't be too excited about extra service. Same for phone in service. Rarely will the 250 php per hour girls provide anything more, and they all wear uniforms.
I wouldn't have picked Richmonde as a place to stay by choice so I guess you have a work-related reason for being there
It rains in some places and it doesn't in others. If you are limited to flights to somwhere on luzon, it will rain and rain and rain.
I'm going to a place where it might rain, but rarely rains all day. A sunburn is not unheard of.
It rains in the Philippines. That's just the nature of things. Take an umbrella-and be a hero for your paid conquests by snuggling them in close under the umbrella on the way to the hotel. The hotel lobby walk of shame seems less troubling when both of you are soaking wet. The bigger problem is that airfare is sky high for this period because of all the traffic in Fil-Ams taking advantage of summer vacations. Even if you're not flying from the states, all fares in and out of the Phils are high when you buy a ticket this close to travel time.
Recently I was in Manila, met a 19yr at DIA, fm Manila itself, she came to my hotel with in 1 hour of phnone call, reguler girl, helping her mom in making some food items for sale near their home in Manila.
Shw was excellent vey horney, nice big firm naturla boobs, her pussy tightness techniques is unique and lovly. In addition to my cock she lovs my finnger fucking too, my 2 fingrs deep inside her pussy and when she is coming to orgasom, o my god it was such a tight squeeze my fingers almost broken!
What a lovly experience, paid her 3000 for the first night and 2500 for the 2nd.
Will psot photos soon.
TMT
met a 19yr - - - reguler girl, helping her mom in making some food items for sale near their home in Manila. - - - paid her 3000 for the first night and 2500 for the 2nd.TMTEhmmm how much regular? I mean regular in P4P? :) LOL
has anyone stayed at this hotel? and bigger question have you tried the massage, either in your room or i assume that they have a massage room you can go to where the gym is located. prices? any info is greatly appreciated.the massage in-house is known for giving extra service but the quality of the therapists is debatable. rumor has it that there will be an es massage place on emerald in the raffles building opening this week which is a little walk from there. metrowalk's spa also is known for es as is one in pioneer center and madison square which are not too far from the hotel.
Dustin6902
06-03-12, 14:37
Recently I was in Manila, met a 19yr at DIA, fm Manila itself, she came to my hotel with in 1 hour of phnone call, reguler girl, helping her mom in making some food items for sale near their home in Manila.
Shw was excellent vey horney, nice big firm naturla boobs, her pussy tightness techniques is unique and lovly. In addition to my cock she lovs my finnger fucking too, my 2 fingrs deep inside her pussy and when she is coming to orgasom, o my god it was such a tight squeeze my fingers almost broken!
What a lovly experience, paid her 3000 for the first night and 2500 for the 2nd.
Will psot photos soon.
TMTWhat is DIA? I am going to Manila Thursday and a bit tired of the MBC crowd.
Thanks
Dustin6902
06-03-12, 14:41
Can you guys give me a website to meet some girls from Manila prior to my arrival next week?
What is DIA that many guys speak of?
Thanks
Can you guys give me a website to meet some girls from Manila prior to my arrival next week?
What is DIA that many guys speak of?
ThanksThis has got to be the most asked question on this board. Check the abbreviations link above for the answer.
www.dateinasia.com It's free.
What is DIA? I am going to Manila Thursday and a bit tired of the MBC crowd.
Thanks
Fast Eddie 48
06-04-12, 17:03
What is DIA? I am going to Manila Thursday and a bit tired of the MBC crowd.
ThanksTo Dustin,
I pick up a girl at MBC last month from Cavite guess what she is a DIA member, saw her leaving MBC heading back home with no luck offer her 1000 p for ST and go back to my hotel stay only one hr service just ok very shy girl, you should try other city in PI but you will get DIA girl there also.
Fast Eddie 48
I live in Ortigas, Richmonde Hotel is a bit tired now as it is used by government agencies for lots of in-house seminars and workshops.
It is an easy walk to Shangri-la Mall and SM Megamall but these are not mongering destinations. You have a long drive south to Makati or EDSA International or across to Malate (MBC).
Hotel massages are a bit hit and miss, especially in places like Richmonde. Don't be too excited about extra service. Same for phone in service. Rarely will the 250 php per hour girls provide anything more, and they all wear uniforms.
I wouldn't have picked Richmonde as a place to stay by choice so I guess you have a work-related reason for being thereYes it is work related. I was hoping there would be some massage place nearby that I could visit. But I do have 1 full day off during the week, so maybe I can catch a bus or jeepney and go somewhere? Any recommendations? I'm curious to try a soapy. Any of them in Manila?
Soapy Smith
06-06-12, 07:33
maybe I can catch a bus or jeepney and go somewhere? Any recommendations?Unless you know your way around the metro area plan to use taxis rather than bus or jeepney. The Emerald location, if the ES massage report is correct, is about a 5 to 10 minute walk from the Richmonde and the neighborhood is relatively safe.
Yes it is work related. I was hoping there would be some massage place nearby that I could visit. But I do have 1 full day off during the week, so maybe I can catch a bus or jeepney and go somewhere? Any recommendations? I'm curious to try a soapy. Any of them in Manila?I recommend that you go to I_Spa in Metrowalk which is in Meralco Avenue on the edge of Ortigas Centre.
Very well-run massage & wellness center. Down the back LH corner on Level 2 at the top of an escalator from the ground level.
Ask for the I_Spa special which is just under 1000 php. It is an hour massage on the back and legs with a flip over and a very sensuous HJ to finish off. It is included in the massage so no need to ask but the girl will probably give him a tug and smile and say something like "what about this?"
I usually slip the girl 400 php tip but I am a notorious over-tipper so probably 200 would be enough. I am sure locals don't tip at all but I always tip the masseuses who come to my condo (these are strictly no hanky panky and always nice strong massages).
I give the boy who looks after my shoes at the reception ante-room 20 php too and he is always happy with that.
I suggest that you take a taxi to get there from Richmonde. Jeepneys and buses run on specific routes and will not take you near where you want to go. Only seasoned locals use jeepneys or buses (especially in Manila)
Ask to be taken to Metrowalk in Meralco Avenue.
From Richmonde you can walk easily to both Shangri-la Mall and to SM Megamall in around 5 minutes. The doorman at the hotel will point you in the right direction.
Have fun.
FreebieFan
06-08-12, 09:03
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/209179/nigerian-arrested-for-manhandling-bar-girl
Guy gets drunk, says and does the wrong thing and next thing hes arrested. Happens all the time. But near the end it states he "tested positive for alcohol". First time I ever heard such a phrase.
" Hello Sir, have you been drinking?" " NO Occcifer". Come his way, we are going to test you.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/209179/nigerian-arrested-for-manhandling-bar-girl
Guy gets drunk, says and does the wrong thing and next thing hes arrested. Happens all the time. But near the end it states he "tested positive for alcohol". First time I ever heard such a phrase.
" Hello Sir, have you been drinking?" " NO Occcifer". Come his way, we are going to test you.I have seen guys especially foreigners behaving as if they owns everything after they pays their drink, misbehaving and inviting troubles from locals and security. We must at all time know that as visitors we are to respect the locals and their enforcement. Normally if I see such incident I will make hasty retreat less I get caught in cross fire. We are very vunerable if they start focussing on us. There are small things you pick up as you travel more.
Soapy Smith
06-10-12, 09:35
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/209179/nigerian-arrested-for-manhandling-bar-girlStory says it happened at Studio 54 bar at the corner of del Pilar and Salas. Would Studio 54 be the Manila Bay Club's sister bar on the other corner across Romero Salas?
Story says it happened at Studio 54 bar at the corner of del Pilar and Salas. Would Studio 54 be the Manila Bay Club's sister bar on the other corner across Romero Salas?Yes, that's the one.
Is this the guy that is approaching some of you in Malate/Ermita?Hi . Realize you post is from 2010- I mentioned to have been tried for a scam at the Diamond Hotel. I actually think it was the guy from you picture.
FreebieFan
06-12-12, 01:51
The stories about Filipinas being denied the rights to board flights seems to be on many of the sites of ISG Philippines so I'm just adding this one here in Manila.
Had two female friends "trying" (and these days it is trying to get on a flight) to take a Cebu Pacific flight to BKK last Sunday. Both are mid 20's both presentable, both had all the right docs (passport, return ticket, cash, hotel reservation ). Apparently, there were many other single ladies also trying to get on same flight.
They said that every time a young single lady approached the Customs counter they were taken to a side office where there was actually a queue of ladies waiting to be "further interviewed".
One of the girls I know got on the flight, the other was at the back of the queue of ladies for further interviewing.
All told 14 girls were unable to take the flight either because they were unallowed by the fine Immigration folks, or because they simply ran out of time.
This situation is getting worse and worse.
On another board, a European who has all the proper permits to live in Manila, reports that a few weeks ago he became upset with the Immigration guy for harassing his gf with many questions. They were travelling together.
On arrival back in Manila he was told his visa was now a tourist only visa and valid only for 30 days.
Moral of the story. Keep your cool, no matter how idiotic the guy in the black uniform might appear to be.
Just a question. Does anybody ever go to their countries embassy and complain about what they are doing? I am refering to mainly guys taking girls on vacation with them. It seems if your country is giving them money maybe a few complaints would lighten up their attitude. There must be a way to get to them, or am I totally off base.
Just a question. Does anybody ever go to their countries embassy and complain about what they are doing? I am refering to mainly guys taking girls on vacation with them. It seems if your country is giving them money maybe a few complaints would lighten up their attitude. There must be a way to get to them, or am I totally off base.Or sue them for harrasment?
What a lovly experience, paid her 3000 for the first night and 2500 for the 2nd.Is 3000 the going LT rate for "regular" (LOL) DIAs in Manila these days? Guess I should stick with my province imports for whom 3000 equals a month's salary.
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Moral of the story. Keep your cool, no matter how idiotic the guy in the black uniform might appear to be.Of course this is their chance to screw you up. Act cooly and you will soon be pounding tight pussies; he will be stamping passports for a living the next day too.
Starchild2012
06-13-12, 08:55
Its the third world psyche for abusing the power one gets is the problem. These guys just can't handle power and abuse it and destroy 100's of life daily. Its the same in India, where 1000's of workers are denied permits to work abroad, forget about flying, getting a passport in India takes six months that too if you pay a bribe.
I have traveled to PH four times in last three years and even I was not allowed to board the plane, The immi. Officer asked me, what is there to see in the PH that I have not seen for the last four times, asked about my hotel reservation, my job, my bank account detail, my marital status, my education background, if I have any friends or relative in the PH. That they reluctantly allowed me. When I landed in manila, I was similarly abused.
I was born with these kinds. These people who get a taste of little power grow horns, wings and have fork in their hands, to judge what they seem fit and play with our life's. Its not only in airport, all government machinery where one has power over its people, you could pretty much expect this gangsta behavior. Every third world citizen goes through this abuse in their life time.
If you remove all immigration officers and put new ones. After few months they too will start behaving like demons. Most of you from the west must have already experienced this power corruption in Asia already. It won't change, unless some divine intervention changes our DNA code, its that corrupt hahaha. Forget about any solution, there is none. Just pray to almighty that your gf gets lucky and not meet the Satan himself.
Is 3000 the going LT rate for "regular" (LOL) DIAs in Manila these days? Guess I should stick with my province imports for whom 3000 equals a month's salary.I know you used LOL in your sentence about regular DIA girls Pute but just in case some guys missed your irony. There is definitely NO GOING RATE for DIA girls.
Every one of my DIA contacts has not expected anything nor asked for it EXCEPT that I offered them transport expenses in advance to come and meet me at my chosen venue.
About half agreed readily; 45% argued but accepted expenses anyway; 5% were insulted that I would propose to give them any money in return for sex.
There are freelancers on DIA too who will make it clear upfront when you chat with them if they expect payment. As stated in some earlier posts on ISG, the rate most of us offer for DIA girls who ask for payment is 1500 php with a possible extra 500 php for exemplary service.
Clarify the amount in advance. If she demands more, then move to the next name on your list.
Topmanten definitely overpaid (but it's his option and if he is happy then good luck to him)
FreebieFan
06-13-12, 12:36
I know you used LOL in your sentence about regular DIA girls Pute but just in case some guys missed your irony. There is definitely NO GOING RATE for DIA girls.
Every one of my DIA contacts has not expected anything nor asked for it EXCEPT that I offered them transport expenses in advance to come and meet me at my chosen venue.
About half agreed readily; 45% argued but accepted expenses anyway; 5% were insulted that I would propose to give them any money in return for sex.
There are freelancers on DIA too who will make it clear upfront when you chat with them if they expect payment. As stated in some earlier posts on ISG, the rate most of us offer for DIA girls who ask for payment is 1500 php with a possible extra 500 php for exemplary service.
Clarify the amount in advance. If she demands more, then move to the next name on your list.
Topmanten definitely overpaid (but it's his option and if he is happy then good luck to him) Not forgetting that I find theres a substantial difference in how ladies react to you, if they think your a newbie, vs a Manila vet. I tend to operate in one of the "suburbs" that surrounds Makati and the fact that I know some Tagalog and am clearly are familiar works very well for me personally. But having talked to some of the ladies, they would happily go with Johnny Foreigner but would charge him accordingly for his newness.
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