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I went there once. Yes, once and only once. I remember the smarmy manager (or owner?) hanging on my shoulder urging me to to pick a girl. The gals held back so I couldn't really get a good look. I got the bad vibe so drank up and paid up. The manager got a little pissy with me as I paid my bill. THis was a few years ago and there were more than three ladies on hand so I guess things have gone downhill from the time of my visit and the time of Slippery's visit. I wonder why?
Nevertheless, despite what Slippery writes in his rant, I saw no cleanliness problems and I certainly would not blame the gals for problems that are clearly the shenanigans of the management. X
I'm not a cheap bastard by any means but I hate to get gouged. Was in the neighborhood at Mabini & U. N. And stopped in Red Rooster for the first time and asked for an Absolut and Sprite."No Sprite sir, just juice". Settled for an Absolut & pineapple juice. Finishing 10 minutes later I looked at the bill and it was 300 php or $7. 50 USD. I couldn't frigg'and believe it. I get the same drink in Angeles for 85-95 php and get two for one at G Point for 185 php every day between 3:00 pm and 7:00 pm.
WTF? I don't have to pay anywhere near $7. 50 for an Absolut anywhere in hometown USA.
Dear Red Rooster Owner: This is the first and last time I will ever set foot in that sorry environ you call a bar. The three girls working there were representative of the want of ambiance or cleanliness of your place. The bar is downright depressing and there isn't a drink or a girl in the entire place worth 300 pesos. Upon entering, it reminded me of a place I used to walk by on my way to high school that smelled of cheap beer and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). Should've know better. Now I do.
Hahahaha OK X I'll stand on half of what I wrote. $7. 50 for an Absolut at that dump is excessive and I still wouldn't pay 300 php for any girl there. Rant succintified and over. Thanks.
BTW WTF is "smarmy"?
Landed on 29 April at about 9 PM. Had arranged a DIA girl to meet me. No sign of her. Called her only to find out she could not make it because she could not borrow money.
No matter, was tired anyway. Checked into Bayview park. After a shower went to MBC to check out. All fuglies at 11pm. Did not show any interest in anybody in spite of several grabs.
Went back and had a nice sleep alone.
In the morning called the next DIA girl. Lives in paranaque or so. She came to the hotel at 5 PM. Nice looking girl (pics will be posted ). Young 20 year old, no babies and was working in Mcdonalds till the contract expired. Need to support self and family. Good looking girl although little dark willing to please. Sex many times with any positions, not much interested in anal. As usual I keep her for 2 days and pay my normal for DIA girls 1000 pesos per day + some goodies.
After she left called my previous regular who stayed for 2 days. Sex with her is always very good and company is great. Although not good in looks department. However great body with big boobs. Sex multiple times a day. Always taking charge and wore me out.
Next report in Cebu section where I stayed 12 nights.
BTW WTF is "smarmy"?Smarmy is a good word to know. Here's the dictionary definition: ingratiating and wheedling in a way that is perceived as insincere or excessive: a smarmy, unctuous reply.
Hi all,
I was wondering where you can pick up some Kamagra Jelly legitimately in Manila. I just popped into a pharmacy and they only sold Viagra for 2000pesos for 4!
Also whats the normal rate? I think I read somewhere its around 1000pesos for the gel which is way easier on the wallet.
Thanks in Advance
Landed on 29 April at about 9 PM. Had arranged a DIA girl to meet me. No sign of her. Called her only to find out she could not make it because she could not borrow money.
After she left called my previous regular who stayed for 2 days. Sex with her is always very good and company is great. Although not good in looks department. However great body with big boobs. Sex multiple times a day. Always taking charge and wore me out.
Next report in Cebu section where I stayed 12 nights.Maybe you want to post your report here. Cebu forum is dead. Moderators need to merge back the forums
Maybe you want to post your report here. Cebu forum is dead. Moderators need to merge back the forumsIt's only dead because nobody has posted anything in recent times.
I say leave things how they are.
FreebieFan
05-23-13, 07:44
Hi all,
I was wondering where you can pick up some Kamagra Jelly legitimately in Manila. I just popped into a pharmacy and they only sold Viagra for 2000pesos for 4!
Also whats the normal rate? I think I read somewhere its around 1000pesos for the gel which is way easier on the wallet.
Thanks in AdvanceI don't think there is. CertainlyI haven't heard of anywhere. Kamagra is primarily sold in Thailand and as many more Indians in Thailand, it was they who started importing it. The gel is a great product and works well. Last BKK trip I bought a few boxes that will see me through the year.
It's only dead because nobody has posted anything in recent times.
I say leave things how they are.I am quite sure, I am not the only one complains about it. Forum's purpose is to communicate. It is obvious, it is out fashion and not serving. So, it is time to correct the mistake and move on
Does any one knows if Priligy (dapoxetine) available in Philippines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dapoxetine
I am quite sure, I am not the only one complains about it. Forum's purpose is to communicate. It is obvious, it is out fashion and not serving. So, it is time to correct the mistake and move onI don't agree. When someone visits and posts an FR there is always a heap of activity.
Look at AC Hotels. Ages since any activity. Subic has had no posts in May at all.
The whole board is a bit dead at present and not just the Philippines thread.
Some places haven't had a post on them for 3 or 4 months (Mongolia) , and Laos has virtually zero activity too (both places I visit for work and so check periodically).
It's not the board's fault; it's the fault of disinterested posters.
I don't think there is. CertainlyI haven't heard of anywhere. Kamagra is primarily sold in Thailand and as many more Indians in Thailand, it was they who started importing it. The gel is a great product and works well. Last BKK trip I bought a few boxes that will see me through the year.Thanks for that. Maybe it was Cialis I was thinking of?
Anyway 2000 pesos still sounds bloody expensive here in Manila. Even for genuine.
.It's not the board's fault; it's the fault of disinterested posters.And I think its a result of the global recession. Not so many able to travel overseas to monger, recent years. More for me, LOL.
Wicked Roger
05-23-13, 12:10
Maybe you want to post your report here. Cebu forum is dead. Moderators need to merge back the forumsI agree with RK. Cebu is dead as few are visiting this time, it is election time and many choose to stay away. The threads work well as they are and was a good decision to take Cebu into a separate thread that is easy to find.
We could of course make Cebu and other threads busy by replicating other boards with their "hey bro PM me her digits" FRs but I think that is a backward step
Member #4643
05-23-13, 12:34
Does any one knows if Priligy (dapoxetine) available in Philippines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DapoxetineI cannot answer our question, except I can personally attest to the fact that Prozac, which is used to treat premature ejaculation, works very well in this regard. And I am certain that prozac is available in the Philippines. It worked too well for me, and at times I needed an hour (or more) of intense activity to come.
My current answer to premature ejaculation is to start my sessions with a blow job followed by a 15 minute rest. And then go at it again. If I have taken my usual 10 mg of Levitra, I never have any issues, and round two will last as long as I desire.
Starchild2012
05-23-13, 12:55
Hi all,
I was wondering where you can pick up some Kamagra Jelly legitimately in Manila. I just popped into a pharmacy and they only sold Viagra for 2000pesos for 4!
Also whats the normal rate? I think I read somewhere its around 1000pesos for the gel which is way easier on the wallet.
Thanks in AdvanceTry generic store like Generica and The generic Pharmacy, There is one infront of Burgos street however now a days they are everywhere in Philippines. If they don't have Kamagra, they would have other generic alternative. So ask for sildenafil citrate (Viagra) and tadalafil (Cialis) Generic tabs. Good luck
Wicked Roger
05-23-13, 21:17
Am not a fan of Dan Brown's novels (think they are rubbish) but he seems to have upset people in Manila (the MMDA) who think the city is not polluted and has no sex trade. Always will amaze me how Filipinos can never take criticisim of their country by foreigners while they openly admit the problems themselves. The letter is somewhat amusing as it says Manila is the "entry to heaven". Well it could be seen as that also I suppose.
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2013/05/23/brown-hounded-calling-manila-gates-hell-283775
Cool Traveler
05-24-13, 00:17
freebie.
those who have claimed that they are virgins have been usually truthful. the last one i had couple of months ago, was so tight, it actually hurt. i really couldn't go deep. and she bled so badly that i had to move into the shower. after the deed was done, i decided to check out, as the sheets and bed were a mess. once in a while it is ok, but i prefer experience to virgins.
i am back there next week. so, can't wait for my flight.
ct
have had a few virgins over the years and theres a certain thrill and excitement about knowing you were the first (hopefully).
been chatting with a girl from south of manila for a few weeks. she's showed me her well developed figure once or twice on cam, at my prompting, and weve had lots of chat about sex. has told me many many times she's a virgin altho she had admitted she's been kissed. hmm kissed a filipino boy probably means no virgin but she's 18 and looks great so what the heck, i'm old enough to fool myself quite well. she's talked about wanting to try her ass, [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117), videos and all sorts. too good to be true, maybe.
next week will make a visit there for a few short hopefully hot day, and assuming she shows up, it will all be good.
if she doesn't show theres plan a, plan be, plan see and a couple of old regulars all happy to drop by too if needed.
i love this part where the ticket is booked, hotel is booked and now wait and wonder what will happen. never plays out exactly as planned but its fun doing the finding out. and seeing how different the girl on cam is from the one in your bed. !
FreebieFan
05-24-13, 01:23
Am not a fan of Dan Brown's novels (think they are rubbish) but he seems to have upset people in Manila (the MMDA) who think the city is not polluted and has no sex trade. Always will amaze me how Filipinos can never take criticisim of their country by foreigners while they openly admit the problems themselves. The letter is somewhat amusing as it says Manila is the "entry to heaven". Well it could be seen as that also I suppose.
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2013/05/23/brown-hounded-calling-manila-gates-hell-283775Yes they are really thin skinned. A few years a German guy somewhere around Cebu, admittedly drunk was on a ferry and made a remark about the President being corrupt. This was reported and the police asked him about his comment when ferry arrived at its destination. He said words to the effect of " hey everyone know this, its reported in the papers every day". Police reported him to immigration and he was deported. He had been living in Philipines for 10 years. Very very very thin skinned.
Mind, Manilas pollution is nothing compared to Beijing. Now thats real pollution. Not the wimpy stuff you ocassionally see in Manila.
Radical Guy
05-24-13, 01:27
Am not a fan of Dan Brown's novels (think they are rubbish) but he seems to have upset people in Manila (the MMDA) who think the city is not polluted and has no sex trade. Always will amaze me how Filipinos can never take criticisim of their country by foreigners while they openly admit the problems themselves. The letter is somewhat amusing as it says Manila is the "entry to heaven". Well it could be seen as that also I suppose.
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2013/05/23/brown-hounded-calling-manila-gates-hell-283775Well, to be fair, the letter was just one attorney's opinion of Dan Brown's Manila description. If you read the comments in the article, it appears that most Filipinos pretty much agree with the description.
GoodEnough
05-24-13, 03:17
Yes they are really thin skinned. Very very very thin skinned.I agree, and what's more, many Filipinos think that this country is a major player in global politics, without realizing that most Europeans and Americans couldn't find it on a map, and without acknowledging its total irrelevance in world affairs. For the US, the country is a strategically located naval resource, and for Europe and other parts of the world, a source of cheap labor. But that's all it is.
GE
FreebieFan
05-24-13, 03:47
I agree, and what's more, many Filipinos think that this country is a major player in global politics, without realizing that most Europeans and Americans couldn't find it on a map, and without acknowledging its total irrelevance in world affairs. For the US, the country is a strategically located naval resource, and for Europe and other parts of the world, a source of cheap labor. But that's all it is.
GEThe Scarborough shoal and the Taiwan fishing shooting have shown the impotence of Philippines as small fish in a big pond. But if you read the media reports about Philippines spending lots of money on defence (Italian boats etc) the news slant is that Philippines is increasing the size of its military and response abilities. Nothing of the sort is really happening.
Soldiers and sailors are still poorly paid and poorly led and the budgeted amnounts of increased defence spending is invariably eaten by corruption.
Philippines is going to have to learn to share its toys and waters with some larger bigger more dominant players. And its politicians will need to realise the same.
GoodEnough
05-24-13, 05:42
I get the sense that the national government here is serious about enhancing its ability to project military power, even of a limited sort, into what it views as its territorial waters. The problem is, I think, that what is viewed here as a major investment, is about equivalent to a week's worth of expenditures for the Chinese armed forces with which it has no hope in hell of competing. So it will be interesting to see how this plays out over the next several months. A poorly trained, poorly equipped Filipino force head to head with a thoroughly professional, well equipped opposing force from China. On the other hand, I worry about the "mutual defense pact" between the GOP and the US as I would hate to see the US sucked into another mindless, unwinnable conflict on behalf of the Philippines.
GE
While the PI may not be as critical strategically as it was during WW2, for example, I disagree completely with GE's argument that we should not honor our mutual defense treaty and use the full might of the USN to expel the PRC from the West Philippine sea. This is about MUCH more than the Philippines, this is about containment of the bully of Asia. The beasts in Beijing will dominate the Pacific the way the Japanese tried to in the 30s and 40s, just google greater east asia co prosperity sphere, unless the World's sole policeman prevents it. But America will not let that happen, note the strategic pivot to the Pacific announced the the Secretary of Defense last year. Even our former enemy Viet Nam wants us to occupy Cam Ranh Bay, the Soviet built naval base near Nha Trang. They are just the latest to join Japan, Taiwan, Korea, Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei. They all fear the beast of the East and know the USN is the ONLY way to prevent PRC Colonization of the entirety of East Asia.
Pnoy feels he MUST spend MUCH more on defense lest he displease DC which regularly reminds our protectorates about how little they spend on their own defense compared to what the US taxpayer pays to protect foreign nations half a World away. And he is sending a message to Beijing that the PI won't cower in its little corner of the sea while the Chinese run roughshod over every other nation in East Asia.
PS I LOVE Dan Brown's books. His critics are allied with the CBCP which tried desperately to prevent entry of DaVinci Code and published a hit piece subsidized by the Vatican that was called "the documentary". Back then if you asked to buy DaVinci Code, you'd be told "all we have Sir is the 'documentary'". But the Church is in decline as proven by the passage of the RH bill after decades of obstruction by the Church and its political allies.
Barry Mundi
05-24-13, 07:50
Good advice Barry. Can you give us the name of the sleazy beer shop.Sorry for the delay West
Got a cheap trip for 5 days.
Its at the junction and next to travellers rest hotel the bar itself, which is next door has no name but you will be assurred of being welcomed after the second beer, be selective and refuse the "lady drink" bit. Tip the faggot as you leave.
And be polite and not typicial western guys.
These girls do it to feed family not as a career path.
Barra
Wicked Roger
05-24-13, 08:10
i get the sense that the national government here is serious about enhancing its ability to project military power, even of a limited sort, into what it views as its territorial waters. the problem is, i think, that what is viewed here as a major investment, is about equivalent to a week's worth of expenditures for the chinese armed forces with which it has no hope in hell of competing. so it will be interesting to see how this plays out over the next several months. a poorly trained, poorly equipped filipino force head to head with a thoroughly professional, well equipped opposing force from china. on the other hand, i worry about the "mutual defense pact" between the gop and the us as i would hate to see the us sucked into another mindless, unwinnable conflict on behalf of the philippines.
gejust as you posted the above fr i saw this in the msn web site. must have heard your comments ge.
http://t.news.ph.msn.com/regional/grounded-ship-is-philippines-last-line-of-defence-2
basically this says the country does not have a chance if china decided to take over the seas using a high powered speed boat and few well trained fishermen lol.
as this country desperately needs jobs, investment, cash etc. something that that successive governments have failed to do. it seems very likely that the us will be back. the level of poverty is the same as 2006/07 according to media reports also so another factor to welcome back us forces but when when they arrive what will ijm do? big question is how to stop all the girls in ac and subic etc entertaining the troops while being paid so much money to stop it lol i think there will be some unwritten rules on that matter as i can't imagine horny marines sitting in a bar just driinking then going back to the ship
Try generic store like Generica and The generic Pharmacy, There is one infront of Burgos street.This particular shop had a viagra promo recently. Bye one, get one free, so 8 pills each 100mg for 1200ps. But I don't know whether the promo is still on.
Cheers!
Soapy Smith
05-24-13, 09:21
On the other hand, I worry about the "mutual defense pact" between the GOP and the US as I would hate to see the US sucked into another mindless, unwinnable conflict on behalf of the Philippines. GEIn a "rational" world military conflict between China and the US would be disastrous for both parties. Walmart shareholders would be thrown into a tailspin until management could find alternative producers, and even then the elevated prices would seriously harm Walmart's continuity. And without Walmart, China's entire economy could collapse. But that kind of rationality may be little more than a myth with little application outside of a few textbooks. Recent history suggests that America's "rational" foreign policy is written by shadowy characters in the military industrial complex. Apologies in advance if that includes some of our colleagues.
Of course it's also possible Philippine foreign policy operates on an equally mythical set of assumptions about the inclinations of the current American administration to start new wars. Then again, Margaret Thatcher attacked the Falklands, and then Ronald Reagan attacked Grenada, presumably to prove he could attack a smaller and more harmless country.
Took fly the bus from AC to Manila. Short walk to Bayview hotel and checked in.
Had arranged a girl to meet me in Robinson, Malate at 6 pm. Took a nice nap (Was really tired) and went to the mall around 6 pm. Girl is a no show. Tex ted her many times but no answer. Got curious looks from few girls walking
Alone but did not return their smile.
Short walk to MBC and couple of beers to drown my disappointment. The girl 19 did really look beautiful in the picture.
Did not see any good looking girls in MBC. One reasonably ok girl I had last year came to me but she looked worn out, looked very thin and sickly. Passed on her.
After something to eat in nearby turkish restauirent back to hotel. Tex-ted next on the list who said she will be in my room in an hour. Lookwise totally different than what the picture showed in DIA.
Slight pussy smell and breath also stunk. Told her about it and asked her to clean herself and brush nicely. After she is done I went and took a shower. Nice body with nice boobs but face not pretty.
To her credit loves to do BBBJ long time. Good sex but the smell in her pussy remained. Smell is a turn off for me. 99% of the DIA girls I had fun with had 0 smell.
After the first round rested a little and went for the second round. Within about 2 hours we were done. I told her I want to sleep and she can go. Some argument saying that she wanted to stay the night but I insisted.
That she leave. Could not spend the night with a smelly girl. Off she goes with 1200 pesos.
Good night's rest and three girls whom I had texted saying I am in manila texting me like crazy. Ultimately settled on one who was 18 and wanted to come to my room. I told her she needs to bring a I. D, otherwise.
Hotel security will not allow her in. By the way security in Bayview is very strict.
She said she will bring birth certificate. Then she asked me how much I will give her for spending 2 nights. I told her 2000. She said nothing less than 5000. I told her not to come. Meanwhile I texted another girl who really
Wanted to stay with me to come. She did not know malate area. So I went to mall of asia to meet her. Nice looking girl. Very pleasant to be with. Works in a Korean restaurent and was off for a week. She took a pounding
In sex many times a day. Enjoys sex but not BBBJ or DATY. Clean pleasant girl and still in touch with her. She said she works 6 days a week almost 12 hours a day and no time for anything else. She was real horny.
Had not had sex for a year. Went to the mall, dinner, movie etc. Loves to dance but no time to go to a disco.
Now back home with PPD (post philippine depression)
Then again, Margaret Thatcher attacked the Falklands.Most certainly did not. HRH's military forces attacked and in short order dispatched the Argentinian invaders of the Falklands. See United Nations Security Council Resolution 502.
FreebieFan
05-24-13, 14:13
Most certainly did not. HRH's military forces attacked and in short order dispatched the Argentinian invaders of the Falklands. See United Nations Security Council Resolution 502.Well said Sir. Bravo. Actually she responded to the fact that part of Her Majesties dominion, had been invaded by the Argies. They messed with the wrong PM on that particular ocassion.
Exoticspirit
05-24-13, 21:34
Did not see any good looking girls in MBC. One reasonably ok girl I had last year came to me but she looked worn out, looked very thin and sickly. Passed on her.I've been reading more about the decrease in quality at MBC lately. Has this place turned into one that is not worth checking out anymore?
I've been reading more about the decrease in quality at MBC lately. Has this place turned into one that is not worth checking out anymore?It is hard to say. Maybe you will find a girl you like if you go there. In my case I was not really looking anyway since I had normal DIA girls. So my standard maybe higher.
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?
Pete Benetar
05-25-13, 05:41
Recent history suggests that America's "rational" foreign policy is written by shadowy characters in the military industrial complex. Apologies in advance if that includes some of our colleagues.Iraq had more to do with GWB's little family vendatta thing along with extreme, egotistic right wing idealogues allowed to run amok in the general post 9/11 hysteria in the US. They, and one notable industrialist, Dickhead Cheney who I'm pretty sure envisioned an occupation that would end up like South Korea, with Halliburton and his pals running and servicing the oil fields, vis a vis Saudi Aramco. "Military Industrial Complex" is an anachronism for the history books. Gen/Sec Powell felt duped and browbeaten (he's been a functional Democrat ever since) and then Army Chief of Staff Eric Shinseki contradicted moronic plans and actions implemented by stellar ivy league minds like Rumsfield, Wolfowitz, Bremer bla, bla, bla (none of whom had any direct ties with defense contractors). Shinseki went down after that. If you want to reduce American war mongering to a catch phrase, make it politicohysteria or some such thing. Reagan was cheered for Grenada, largely because the US was in a frenzy (pardon, no pun) from the USMC barracks bombing a few days before the invasion when 241 US Marines were killed by suicide truck bombers.
I think there is zero to nil chance of armed conflict between US and People's China over the Spratly isles or anywhere else in the China sea shipping lanes. If anywhere it will be over the little island China and with Sino American relations melding into more and more of a mutual economic enterprise, even that becomes less likely IMHO. But Obama and any followons will assuredly want to put more and more American assets in place to assure the status quo.
It seems very likely that the US will be back. The level of poverty is the same as 2006/07 according to media reports also so another factor to welcome back US forces but when when they arrive what will IJM do?Propose SFC McClendon of USMA (W Point) be nominated as official IJM videographer for appropriate documentation of diplomatic intercourse between newly arriving service members and pinoy hosts. Or hostesses.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/sergeant-accused-of-secretly-filming-female-cadets.html?_r=0
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?Any ob / gyn or abortion clinic anywhere in the world. Geeeeezzzzzz what a question. You think there are certain bars or cat houses that only carry pregnant girls?
Go down Adriatico Street from the 1600 to 2000 blocks. You'll find plenty of pregnant girls, many of whose kids are standing naked on the sidewalk or banging on car windows for handouts along with their pregnant moms. Bring D2 with you, they'll be right in that price range.
In viewing your posting history, you seem to have covered all of Asia with the same question. And you still haven't found one? That's beyond pitiful.
I'm currently on my 4th day of a 7 day holiday in Manila.
I made contact with about 50 women before coming over. Of the 50 I culled that back to about 6 potentials and of those 4 confirmed to meet me at various times over the last 4 days.
- 1 turned out to be crazy even before meeting. Texts like "where are you?","you always busy!","why you not answer" etc etc so I just didn't want the hassle of meeting.
- 1 claimed I was the 1st person she had met from DIA (though her profile was from Aug last year) though her BJ skills and willingness to go into any position showed me she wasn't as innocent as she claims. However she was very tight so you never know.
- 1 had very limited English skills which ruined the experience for me as we had nothing to talk about and I just didn't feel right having sex with someone I couldn't communicate with. Though having said that I wasn't going to kick her out before seeing her BJ skills (which weren't great) but she did do enough for me to CIM but no swallow. I lost my mojo by this point so made some excuse about meeting someone in 30mins and let here leave.
- The last one I'm still trying to lock down as she keeps texting saying she is unable to make it etc etc.
Anyway its Saturday night here in Manila so I might go checkout the FL scene. The very 1st night I was here I ran into a FL outside Greenbelt 3. I think they will be out in force today.
Currently have 2 more I'm trying to setup meetings with right now. One (if the photos are to be believed) is stunning! Easily a 9 where as the 2 I have been with would be a 7 and 6 respectively on my scale.
Damage so fare is a Dinner, a Coffee, A box of Chocolates and about 3000 pesos to cover "their taxi"
So not as good as other posters here but I like the thrill of chasing non pro's on DIA.
Big question is how to stop all the girls in AC and Subic etc entertaining the troops while being paid so much money to stop it LOL I think there will be some unwritten rules on that matter as I can't imagine horny marines sitting in a bar just driinking then going back to the shipWith the change in the US UCMJ (military law) which made using a prostitute a crime and rules against adultery, I don't see a large influx of GIs making much of a difference. Sure there will be some that will take the chance but an NGO could make it real hard on a guys chance of promotion or staying in the military for that matter.
As of 13 Nov 2006,"Under a change in the Manual for Courts-Martial, troops who patronize prostitutes can receive a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances and up to a year in jail." ref:
http://www.militaryphotos.net********showthread.php?69905-Prostitution-now-punishable-under-UCMJ.
GoodEnough
05-25-13, 12:20
I think there is zero to nil chance of armed conflict between US and People's China over the Spratly isles or anywhere else in the China sea shipping lanes. If anywhere it will be over the little island China and with Sino American relations melding into more and more of a mutual economic enterprise, even that becomes less likely IMHO. But Obama and any followons will assuredly want to put more and more American assets in place to assure the statusIt's depressing, and for this American infuriating to witness the dominance of the military-industrial complex, predicted decades ago by President Eisenhower, come to full bloom in the United States. And with a Congress wholly in thrall to the highest bidders, and wacko right wing ideologues paralyzing most of the US Government, it's difficult to predict where the next armed moral crusade undertaken by the US will be. However, I suppose it's a stretch, even for the nutbags who are the current DC demigogues to encourage armed conflictcwithcthe PRC.
GE
Wicked Roger
05-25-13, 13:41
With the change in the US UCMJ (military law) which made using a prostitute a crime and rules against adultery, I don't see a large influx of GIs making much of a difference. Sure there will be some that will take the chance but an NGO could make it real hard on a guys chance of promotion or staying in the military for that matter.
As of 13 Nov 2006,"Under a change in the Manual for Courts-Martial, troops who patronize prostitutes can receive a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances and up to a year in jail." ref:
http://www.militaryphotos.net********showthread.php?69905-Prostitution-now-punishable-under-UCMJ.LOL.
Are we really to think they bother to chase with MPs in the street etc. I am sure the US military guys I saw recently would doubtless know about this and read it to the cutie that accompanied them back to the room.
Also lots US military = economic benefits to the local community so can't quite that stopping people either.
Call me a cynic LOL
Any ob / gyn or abortion clinic anywhere in the world. Geeeeezzzzzz what a question. You think there are certain bars or cat houses that only carry pregnant girls? That's beyond pitiful.If he visits all the countries he has been putting the question to, at the end of his tour he might find ladies on his list having already delivered the baby.
Weird question, indeed.
You forgot to tell him to go the entrance of an abortion clinic, not to the exit. Weird. Weird.
Pete Benetar
05-25-13, 18:25
I don't see a large influx of GIs making much of a difference. Sure there will be some that will take the chance but an NGO could make it real hard on a guys chance of promotion or staying in the military for that matter.[/url]I'm with WR on this and I think AC is an example of where financial merits of "the trade" results in the local community or Govt adapting so as to benefit the parties at hand. Add that Obama yesterday referred to sexual harassment, assaults etc is now a "threat to our national security", and he is likely correct in some obscure ways. Sexual assault syndrome will be the new PTSD, but guys in uniform are not going to stop getting hard ons for fear of career stoppage. The PI would be a plum tour that would keep guys from engaging in uninvited encounters toward "fellow" female soldiers, sailors and airwomen. Maybe more p4p (and all volunteer "recreation camps") could be a new American campaign strategy, LOL.
It's depressing, and for this American infuriating to witness the dominance of the military-industrial complex, predicted decades ago by President Eisenhower, come to full bloom in the United States. And with a Congress wholly in thrall to the highest bidders, and wacko right wing ideologues paralyzing most of the US Government, it's difficult to predict where the next armed moral crusade undertaken by the US will be.Agree, but small point, it's neither military or industrial really. Some military careerists surely benefit and stoke conflict, but even generals are very low in the pecking order and many of senior military guys are some of the most upstanding (Ike, Powell, Shinseki, Petraeus are a few examples IMO). It's about the interests of Wall street and as often as not, this will not mean securing foreign investments but deflecting attention and focus of voters to anything but the greed of the financial Royalty. The two party system in DC wholly owned and operated by Wall St is all too eager to capitalize on the hysteria (read insanity or idiocy) of the American voter as it generally is very effective in marshalling sentiment and votes. It's win-win for Wall St as it creates more profits especially for anything financial (eg banks, investment houses) as long as their direct financial investments are not destroyed in the process, and it helps solidify the socioeconomic heirarchy. Wall street will not want war with the PRC unless there are some very bad missteps by the US or the PRC.
FreebieFan
05-26-13, 02:14
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?Yeah. Go to PGH (Philippine General Hospital ). Look in the ward for expectant mothers. They deliver one baby every 10 minutes in that hospital. Does that help.
Yeah. Go to PGH (Philippine General Hospital ). Look in the ward for expectant mothers. They deliver one baby every 10 minutes in that hospital. Does that help.FreebieFan.
Slight correction.
He better arrive quickly. Most of the gals will no longer be pregnant anymore. Once the baby comes out, they are not pregnant anymore. Maybe he needs to get at them before they enter PGH.
WestCoast1
05-26-13, 04:28
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?21 of DewDrops 37 posts have a request about finding preggers. Not a single post with any relevant information.
Dew, we call that: Taking without giving.
Please don't ask anymore questions. Please post a solid field report when you reach manila. Relevant topics for your FR: hotel where you stayed, how was the room, how was the food. Information about your girl (pics if possible) , what she looked like, how she behaved. Did you find any preggers there (if so, where?)? Restaurants you patronized. Taxi experiences if bad. And so on.
I've been reading more about the decrease in quality at MBC lately. Has this place turned into one that is not worth checking out anymore?Hit and miss. Recommend you go early, say between 8 and 10 pm, as you'll have a better chance of finding someone desirable.
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?Post an ad in the casual encounters section of Craig's List.
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?Just get one pregnant yourself! Easy!
Nabradi,
Do not under rate yourself because of your age.
I am 70, and I am still meeting with attractive women in their twenties. Rarely older. Rarely younger.
The only issue that I find re age is that pinay generally equate 60+ with being older.
So tell them that you are 59.
I am usually a one-pop-per-day guy, but sometimes I find a woman who can drag 2 pops per day out of me. Now that is heaven. I am not an anal person, but I have found that almost all pinay enjoy a finger well into the ass, especially if your finger and cock are rubbing together across the thin wall separating her rectum from her vagina.
Age seems to make no difference in their expectations, nor in their level of interest. A good DATY on your part is as good as that from a 20 year old. And they love it.
So I suggest that for your next trip, you go for it. You may well be surprised at the result. Nothing like a good sexing daily from a lovely damsel.
One thing that I do find that helps is to give her a good licking and sucking in the evening, so that she has some orgasms.
And then give her a fuc*ng in the morning, when you are well past your refractory stage. And maybe a second one in the afternoon, while your energy levels are still up.
I have just returned home after a 7 week soujourn, with 10 different women, topped off with a 6 day heavenly experience with an astonishingly beautiful and attractive 19 yo, who was both very capable, and very horny.
You can do it.
Go for it.
GThanks Gangles for your comment and info.
I am not really underrating myself, just being a realist.
I look my age, so cannot pretend I am 59, although, I am slim and quite athletic for my age. My main problem is that I always have very limited time, usually one full day at the end of my trip.
I am married and wife keeps watch over my trip from home, in terms of time. Also I really do not like bars and clubs. So it is difficult for me to find a girl unless I pay premium using an agency.
This time I really got high quality for my money, but I know I paid far more than most of you.
You described what you do with a girl, but not how yo arranged it. So tell me, how do you find your women. Are these professionals? If yes where and how much you pay typically? If not, where and what do you to set your date up. Who are these women that you find, and what do they get beside your company and pleasuring skills. I do not understand some of the abbreviations that are being bandied about. So what do you mean for me when you suggest that I "go for it" on my next trip?
Thanks Andrew
Hi,
Planning my first visit to Phils around October 2013.
Want to stick to Manila, Angeles and Subic Bay. Do you recommend somewhere else?
* I have some contacts from Facebook. Should I spend time with contacts (They are quite beautiful) or should I barhop? (I prefer 2 girls at a time). Spoken with contactas and they agree.
* Should I stay in hotel or rented condo / apartment?
* Do you recommend spending some days at Boracay or Cebu for vacation purpose? How is p4p scene there?
* I am after more white, classy, taller girls than black and ordinary ones.
Thanks
Member #4643
05-26-13, 18:15
I have just RTFF on this dance club, and I am a little confused. It is said to be a high end dance club, but sometimes there is not much dancing going on and is less monger friendly than some of the other clubs.
My question is this: what does "less monger friendly" mean? I usually devote some effort to picking up a nice girl in high end places, and despite my advanced age (late 50's although in good shape and still with my hair) , I often succeed. But, when the volume of the music is high, there is less opportunity to display my inner charm- who can hear my witty banter over the sound of hip-hop? So in the end, its often the thought of my inner wallet that motivates the ladies to go home with me. Either way, I am happy as long as the type of girl I bring home is not a hard-core h*oker, since it is a lot easier to go to MBC when that is my intention.
Can someone with experience in the Palladium give me a more in depth description of the mongering possibilities there? Is the Palladium the type of place that with an hour or so, I am guaranteed to find someone, or is the type of place where I truly need to get lucky to find a mate to take home to my bed?
I have just RTFF on this dance club, and I am a little confused. It is said to be a high end dance club, but sometimes there is not much dancing going on and is less monger friendly than some of the other clubs.
My question is this: what does "less monger friendly" mean? I usually devote some effort to picking up a nice girl in high end places, and despite my advanced age (late 50's although in good shape and still with my hair) , I often succeed. But, when the volume of the music is high, there is less opportunity to display my inner charm- who can hear my witty banter over the sound of hip-hop? So in the end, its often the thought of my inner wallet that motivates the ladies to go home with me. Either way, I am happy as long as the type of girl I bring home is not a hard-core h*oker, since it is a lot easier to go to MBC when that is my intention.
Can someone with experience in the Palladium give me a more in depth description of the mongering possibilities there? Is the Palladium the type of place that with an hour or so, I am guaranteed to find someone, or is the type of place where I truly need to get lucky to find a mate to take home to my bed?Typically when I go to Palladium, its in the company of a "girlfriend", so my mongering experience there is limited to the few times going solo.
In those few times (going solo) , I've had no problem pulling quality pussy out of there.
Even though I'm in my 30's (and look much younger) , I've seen a lot of well dressed guys your age do quite well in there (perceived social / economic status I guess?).
To illustrate my point:
During one of my visits there with a "girlfriend" and her incredibly hot friend, who unfortunately was not open to a 3some, I was asked to help her (hot friend) find a guy.
In spite of an overabundance of guys my age, the only men she would even consider were older and well dressed.
Based on my experience (again, I'm not a regular there) , the action doesn't start until much later at night.
However, once it gets going, there is a lot of really good looking pussy to choose from.
Prior to at least midnight, its quite dead.
In terms of guarantees or time spent in there, I can't say.
Hope this helps.
Planning my first visit to Phils around October 2013.
Want to stick to Manila, Angeles and Subic Bay. Do you recommend somewhere else?
* I have some contacts from Facebook. Should I spend time with contacts (They are quite beautiful) or should I barhop? (I prefer 2 girls at a time). Spoken with contactas and they agree.
* Should I stay in hotel or rented condo / apartment?
* Do you recommend spending some days at Boracay or Cebu for vacation purpose? How is p4p scene there?
* I am after more white, classy, taller girls than black and ordinary ones.Obviously you haven't read any threads here but I will answer your silly questions anyway.
*No.
*Spend time with contacts.
*Hotel.
*Yes. Good.
*All types are available everywhere.
Yesterday I caught up up with a little DIA spinner for a couple of hours in the afternoon.
Under 5 feet, I would say around 35 kgs. Huge lips (they look great sucking my cock) but tiny bust. She was shaved
I think she has been around the traps a few times (and a few lap of honors) as I was easier able to put 2 or 3 fingers inside her while I was eating her out and even during doggie.
Long BBBJ, Cowgirl, Doggy, and I finished by cumming over her stomach.
Cost me 500 to cover her taxi and 1000 as a "gift"
I'm currently talking to a 22 year old MILF for a possible session this afternoon. We will see what happens!
Snip.
Now back home with PPD (post philippine depression) PPD huh? Nice acronym.
Yup, think I came down with this after my last trip to Manila in April.
Wicked Roger
05-27-13, 06:49
Hi,
Planning my first visit to Phils around October 2013.
Want to stick to Manila, Angeles and Subic Bay. Do you recommend somewhere else?
* I have some contacts from Facebook. Should I spend time with contacts (They are quite beautiful) or should I barhop? (I prefer 2 girls at a time). Spoken with contactas and they agree.
* Should I stay in hotel or rented condo / apartment?
* Do you recommend spending some days at Boracay or Cebu for vacation purpose? How is p4p scene there?
* I am after more white, classy, taller girls than black and ordinary ones.
ThanksRK. You must be mellowing as you are so kind to the newbie to the PI board.
He asked the same question in AC thread also, and has been promising to come to PI since 2012 if you read his other 19 FRs all of which ask but never give.
"white classy girls". Well all shapes and size and the dark ones are also fun
RTFF Sammy before you come to P and post share and give back as we are being kind today. Sometimes we are nasty and uncaring when this sort of FR is posted but must early morning mellowness that helps LOL
FreebieFan
05-27-13, 07:05
Hi can you more experienced fellows help me.
If I see a girl should I smile at her or say hello. Will she know what I mean if I give her the wink wink" look.
Should I touch her first or should she touch me first. Whats the etiquette here.
If we go to a motel, should I expect to shower alone and can I ask her to have one with me. In the interests of saving water maybe. ? Is there a lot of water in Philippines?
Will she be expected to provide condoms and should I say please or sorry if I accidently come on her face.
Will she be ok f I tell her to sleep on the floor?
Lastly if we have sex will she expect me to marry her and what are the best excuses for saying that I can't.
I'm new here and would appreciate your help.
Oh one last question. What should I do if wife calls as were having sex. Stop and answer wife. Or carry one nd then make up an excuse for wife.
My question is this: what does "less monger friendly" mean?Typically it means that you won't find the large number of freelance working girls you'll find in a "more monger friendly" place such as MBC or Havana.
There are several reports about the nightclubs, often Icon, in the threads.
These are considered the top clubs in metro Manila: Republiq and Opus at Resorts World, Pasay; Prive. 7th High, and Hyve, Bonifacio Global City, Taguig; Palladium, Icon, and Time, Makati; Excess and Prime Upscale Club, Quezon City;
You can google for cover charge, drink cost and reports / reviews. You may be able to also find numbers of promoters who may add you to a guest list that'll get you out of paying the cover.
What I add here may be controversial but the clubbing Filipinas I know swear it's true: the more foreigners there are in a nightclub, especially older guys, the more prostitutes there are also. I'll surmise this is why Icon appears so often in reports here. I've only been to a few clubs a handful of times since I've been here (Republiq, Prive, Excess, Time and 1 or 2 others) , and each time was accompanied by a girl who has connections with a promoter. I don't recall reading any authoritative FRs; closest thing to a club hopper we've seen in a while was a tarheel from North Carolina.
To some extent, our objectives are different. You are looking for a one day hoohup, with your wife tracking eveery move.
I am looking for a lifetime partner, with meetings of several days.
But, having said that, I alwways like to have a backup or two, in case the planned meeting falls through.
I meet women mostly through DIA and Cherry Blossoms. I find CB to be the best source.
We communicate for quite some time, and then close to trip time, I choose the most interesting potential meet ups, and I ask if the want to meet for a couple of days. Most say yes, a few say no, or no reply, and a few indicate maybe.
So we agree on a time and place. Usually I like to meet on neutral ground, so that either of us can walk away. Sometimes she will want to come directly to the hotel.
It is not often that I get a no-show. And mostly I ask them to take a taxi from their home to our meeting place. I pay on arrival. I prefer taxi, because arrival time is more predictable. Jeepneys are notoriously unpredictable as to how long they will take for a trip. Vans are more predictable, and are pretty cheap.
By meeting in a neutral place, she can decide if I am the kind of guy that she is looking for, and vice versa. Despite my age, very few cop out at thius stage. I can not remember if any have actually copped out. I do this, because my philosophy is that I only want to be with her, if she wholeheartedly wants to be with me.
So we have a coffee, or a small snack. Usually she will chat for a few minutes, and then she wants us to go to the hotel.
If she brings company for reassurance, it will often involve 20 minutes at a Jollibee, and they will then take off home.
She will stay for a couple of days, and then she normally leaves in the morning. Leaves me a few hours until the next meet-up in the afternoon.
In your case, you need certainty and predictability.
If I am looking for a plan B backup, I ask for references and contacts here on the board.
Usually one or two of the guys will provide contacts. And you can ncall or text to set up a meeting etc. Or if you are in Manila, go to Manila Bay Cafe and pull a woman from there. The goodies often ask for 3, 000 for overnight, long time. And there you have the opportunity to talk with women before you make your choice.
I often buy a couple of plates of french fries, with lots of ketchup, and invite women to tuck in for some food. A good way to get a conversation going. And it is cheap.
I hope that this has been of some help in sorting things out.
From my perspective, the most important thing for you is to get your wife offf your back for a few days. Give you some flexibility.
Good luck, and happy mongering,
G
Thanks Gangles for your comment and info.
I am not really underrating myself, just being a realist.
I look my age, so cannot pretend I am 59, although, I am slim and quite athletic for my age. My main problem is that I always have very limited time, usually one full day at the end of my trip.
I am married and wife keeps watch over my trip from home, in terms of time. Also I really do not like bars and clubs. So it is difficult for me to find a girl unless I pay premium using an agency.
This time I really got high quality for my money, but I know I paid far more than most of you.
You described what you do with a girl, but not how yo arranged it. So tell me, how do you find your women. Are these professionals? If yes where and how much you pay typically? If not, where and what do you to set your date up. Who are these women that you find, and what do they get beside your company and pleasuring skills. I do not understand some of the abbreviations that are being bandied about. So what do you mean for me when you suggest that I "go for it" on my next trip?
Thanks Andrew
Member #4643
05-27-13, 15:57
Typically it means that you won't find the large number of freelance working girls you'll find in a "more monger friendly" place such as MBC or Havana.What I add here may be controversial but the clubbing Filipinas I know swear it's true: the more foreigners there are in a nightclub, especially older guys, the more prostitutes there are also.I don't recall reading any authoritative FRs.Thanks for the response. I had already done my homework and looked up cover charges, etc. The most amusing part of the club websites has to be the description of the dress code.
Hutsori, I had already come to the conclusions you have, but was really looking for specific information on whether I am wasting my time at a dance club if a major goal is to go back to my hotel with a semi- or non-pro girl. I suspect that your friends are correct that the number of prostitutes is proportional to the number of foreign men- after all, foreign guys represent the upscale sex worker market. Its a bit like the legendary thief Willy Sutton and his famous statement about why he robs banks ("because that's where the money is.") It may, in fact be that if I find a woman at a nightclub willing to go home with me, that she is likely to be a pro.
That is why I am attracted to DIA. It is a treasure trove of easily fuckable semi-pros (and easily seducable non-pros, if one is willing to lie and tell the girls you are interested in marriage). I think I will give the Palladium a Saturday night when I get to Manila next month. The worst that happens is that I will leave empty handed and have to go find a pro at 1 am in order to cure what will by then be a category 5 testosterone storm.
That is why I am attracted to DIA. It is a treasure trove of easily fuckable semi-pros (and easily seducable non-pros.a category 5 testosterone storm.Me, too, Forest. I've had incredibly good luck with DIA in Manila and Cebu. Some real beauties that I have been with several times in between trips to MBC and other bars. And every day I get unsolicited messages from pretty DIA girls. Well some are fugly but this is the complete opposite of American dating site unsolicited inquiries from women are most certainly all Fugly with a capital F for Fat.
Now, on to that category 5 hahhah!
Hey there,
Brand new to our hobby on an international level. I did my first trip to Manila over Easter break and all I can say is I wish I would of found this forum before I did that trip because I made so-so many rookie mistakes but still had some success. I met a cutie virgin from Blossoms and also went to makati escorts but didn't try any bar hopping mostly because Manila can be kind of intimidating on how dangerous it looks. I definitely made a mistake of not finding a guest friendly hotel and constantly had issues with my guests getting to my room. I also overpaid for the company for company with one of my guests (200 roses). Like I said I made some rookie mistakes but I'm hoping to get better educated for my next trip in late July or early August.
Any advise is greatly appreciated!
Hey everyone,
Still new to our hobby. I had my first international adventure in Manila over Easter break and wow can I say based off my readings here I made some rookie mistakes. I did have some success though as well. For my first attempt of only a few days I met a girl through blossoms who was a nice 18 yr old virgin and was my company throughout the majority of the trip. I also went and tried Makataki Escorts and had a decent date who I ended up actually hanging out with without a charge for a second date. I think I donated way too much (200 roses) for my first date but really wasnt sure where to look and I won't lie I was very intimidated to bar hop alone because I stand out very easily there since there aren't many mid 20 American guys walking around everyone is much older. I also learned a BIG lesson about the hotels I stayed at Best Western La Corona and while it was really nice, it wasnt guest friendly. I am planning on heading back at the end of July so I want to learn a lot more about our hobby and not make so many rookie mistakes. I hope I can use my age to my advantage and get some helpful advise from seniors on here so I have even better success next time. As always any advise for a newbie to the hobby is appreciated!
Member #4387
05-27-13, 23:08
I like pregnant girls. Is there any place where pregnant girls can be available?Reviewing his posting history leaves me no choice, as in a safetymeasure, but to say "stay the hell away from Ms Preggy" I will not tolerate her beeing polluted by your stinkin member. She will be released out in the open after delivery but then she will be of no interest to mr preggy hunter Dewdrops, thanks God. I think there will be no chance he is actually going to run into some pinay preggies as he most likely don't leave home.
In a few days I will do Ms Preggy myself though. She reports to be quite horny and ask me to bring some "toys" as well. Dewdrops can you hear me? All above written with a smile ofcourse. LOL
Member #4387
05-27-13, 23:13
Just get one pregnant yourself! Easy!Agreed, hehe
[...]but was really looking for specific information on whether I am wasting my time at a dance club if a major goal is to go back to my hotel with a semi- or non-pro girl.Case by case. There are many variables at play here. I remember reading a report by Tarheel of him taking taxis all over the the city as he went from club to club each night; to me that's a waste of time. If you have the look, style and personality that attracts women in clubs anywhere in the world you'll do fine with non-pro girls here too.
... foreign guys represent the upscale sex worker marketNot entirely accurate. Many of the Filipino guys you find in the clubs are much wealthier than the foreigners. In BGC you'll see some of them with South American models. I think foreigners represent the upscale market for girls wealthy Filipino guys consider mid to lower scale. The upscale girl is looking for a sponsor to put her in a condo and cover all her bills.
That is why I am attracted to DIA. [...] (and easily seducable non-pros, if one is willing to lie and tell the girls you are interested in marriage).No need to lie.
Your safest gambit is to meet a girl from DIA and take her clubbing. If you find someone much better you can send your DIA girl on her way with cab fare.
Member #4643
05-28-13, 05:10
Case by case. There are many variables at play here. I remember reading a report by Tarheel of him taking taxis all over the the city as he went from club to club each night; to me that's a waste of time. If you have the look, style and personality that attracts women in clubs anywhere in the world you'll do fine with non-pro girls here too.
Not entirely accurate. Many of the Filipino guys you find in the clubs are much wealthier than the foreigners. In BGC you'll see some of them with South American models. I think foreigners represent the upscale market for girls wealthy Filipino guys consider mid to lower scale. The upscale girl is looking for a sponsor to put her in a condo and cover all her bills.
No need to lie.
Your safest gambit is to meet a girl from DIA and take her clubbing. If you find someone much better you can send your DIA girl on her way with cab fare.
I am not suggesting that one should lie to Filipina girls one meets on DIA about one's intentions to get married. This is simply a strategy that some men use. Virtually all of the girls state they are looking for a husband, and most of them would not dream of a one night stand with a stranger. I think guys commonly lead girls on to think there are long range opportunities that simply are not there, and this helps them get the girl into bed. For the record, I do not condone lying, although I must admit that even I have fibbed once or twice in my life.
Hutsori, in my experience, you are certainly correct. REgular girls can be found in bars and one can succeed in enticing them to bed. Furthermore, most DIA girls are not prostitutes but many will sleep with older foreign men without any expectations for a long term relationship on their first date. The ones that do usually expect some form of compensation, but they are not strident about this (and will not ask for payment). Indeed, if you do not slip them taxi money, the majority of women will go away without voicing any complaints. But, I think that most of them really do expect some cash. For those who do not believe me, RTFF.
GoodEnough
05-28-13, 06:56
I guess my age is showing, in that it must be the younger guys who can tolerate the clubs. Once, when I was staying at the New World, a friend led me to Palladium for a drink, and the noise was so deafening that I found it intolerable after 15 minutes or so and had to leave. It was impossible to have any sort of conversation and the music was several generations beyond what I recognize as music. I add this comment as a word of caution to the doddering set, in which I firmly include myself, that the pain of going to these places (assuming Palladium was typical of the noise level) might not be worth the trip, at least if you're over 50 and your musical tastes are frozen somewhere around the Rolling Stones era.
GE
All I can say dating normal girls throught dating site, experiences vary greatly from person to person.
Some have good luck while others meet loosers only. Just because you meet a good looking girl does.
Not mean you will have good sex and companionship.
I have taken several girls clubbing. Most girls in the clubs are in groups. Occassional freelancer is there but.
She is more likely to be a call girl. Going alone to a phi club is not advisable unless it is a high class club in.
5 star hotel. Even here the clientale are upscale will not socialize with lonely foreigners.
Making moves on a girl is risky for a foreigner in clubs.
Occassional freelancer is there but.
She is more likely to be a call girl. Going alone to a phi club is not advisable unless it is a high class club in.
5 star hotel. Even here the clientale are upscale will not socialize with lonely foreigners.
Making moves on a girl is risky for a foreigner in clubs.Sammon you are using a "hard return" at the end of a line so you end up with your post looking weird. Don't you preview your posts? Or edit them when you see them so distorted?
Just type as usual. The software wraps the sentences automatically, which you would see if you had previewed your recent posts.
Regarding your points about the high-end clubs.
I agree with you, especially your statement that "Making moves on a girl is risky for a foreigner in clubs".
There are always guys here who said they did this and that in clubs and scored high end "upscale" girls but you need to know that they are lucky and probably in the minority. Many of these girls are there in friendship groups with the boyfriends also there in their own groups drinking separately but keeping an eye on their girls. Many of these fashionistas also have body guards lounging around discreetly watching over them and if you step out of line they will make life difficult for you (and possibly painful too).
In places like Republiq the reality is that most unescorted women there are high-class prostitutes so be prepared to pay high premiums to match that paid by the wealthy pinoys who are also there.
I agree with you, especially your statement that "Making moves on a girl is risky for a foreigner in clubs".Another risk is the waiter appears beside you,"Here sir," and your new gal pal is sticking you with the entire tab for her group of friends. Table charges are in the thousands. "Thanks babe. My friend isn't feeling well and I need to take her home now. I'll call you tomorrow."
WestCoast1
05-28-13, 14:13
All I can say dating normal girls throught dating site, experiences vary greatly from person to person.
Some have good luck while others meet loosers only. Just because you meet a good looking girl does.
Not mean you will have good sex and companionship.Concur RK. Don't need a new paragraph for each sentence. Some gents use their cell phone for posting. Gents, please don't do that. Use the phone for reading, use the computer later for previewing / posting. Eventually Jackson will see the hard returns and moderate.
Soapy Smith
05-28-13, 16:51
"Military Industrial Complex" is an anachronism for the history books.
If you want to reduce American war mongering to a catch phrase, make it politicohysteria or some such thing. Reagan was cheered for Grenada, largely because the US was in a frenzy (pardon, no pun) from the USMC barracks bombing a few days before the invasion when 241 US Marines were killed by suicide truck bombers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/sergeant-accused-of-secretly-filming-female-cadets.html?_r=0My apologies on two counts. I've been away and just now got back to the forum; sorry for re-hashing old content. Second, the length of this post: for those looking exclusively for information on how to find Pinay in-out, in-out, these aren't the droids you're looking for. What follows is for the half dozen others. Waste of band width? Depends where you sit.
I'm not particularly invested in the idea, but I think a few guys didn't get the memo about the demise of the military-industrial complex:
http://www.militaryindustrialcomplex.com/2013-totals.asp
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/01/the-tyranny-of-defense-inc/308342/3/
http://www.theadvertiser.com/article/20130528/OPINION/305280009
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2003/03/01/338099/index.htm
Where campaign contributions are concerned, adding up investment finance, insurance, and commercial banks would seem to make the finance industry the biggest player in campaign money – and defense looks puny by comparison.
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/index.php
On the other hand, maybe defense doesn't need to try very hard to convince anybody, since defense spending comes naturally to Republicans, and increasingly Democrats are afraid to look soft on defense. There's also a large contingent of voters in many districts whose jobs depend on military installations remaining open. Voting for a supportive budget is a no-brainer for the individual member of Congress, and campaign contributions may need not change hands in these instances.
Turning to lobbying, it looks like health care might be most invested:
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=i&showYear=2013
Another view is that industry and finance are blended together so that it's no longer possible to separate out the interests of distinct industries. It must be an issue at GE, for example, to separate their campaign contribution and lobbying interests when they involve everything from wind turbines and locomotives to military electronics, jet turbines, and NBC Television.
I think I get the idea of political hysteria; it may be related to an idea from about 25 years ago in a book about *Constructing the Political Spectacle*. Which then takes on a life of its own. Maybe a little of that currently going on re: Syria. But when narratives are constructed in this way, are they necessarily detached from underlying interests and influence? Pent up energy from the Marine barracks bombing makes sense.
I agree with your analysis of possible military conflict between China and the USA
Soapy Smith
05-28-13, 16:58
Most certainly did not. HRH's military forces attacked and in short order dispatched the Argentinian invaders of the Falklands. See United Nations Security Council Resolution 502.I'll try to be more literal next time: "Joke, laugh here, or not." But I do like the image of the old girl on the front lines.
PussyFeelsGood
05-28-13, 19:14
Some gents use their cell phone for posting. Gents, please don't do that. Use the phone for reading, use the computer later for previewing / posting.LOL this guy is a trip.
If I am looking for a plan B backup, I ask for references and contacts here on the board.
Usually one or two of the guys will provide contacts. And you can ncall or text to set up a meeting etc. Or if you are in Manila, go to Manila Bay Cafe and pull a woman from there. The goodies often ask for 3, 000 for overnight, long time. And there you have the opportunity to talk with women before you make your choice.
I often buy a couple of plates of french fries, with lots of ketchup, and invite women to tuck in for some food. A good way to get a conversation going. And it is cheap.
I hope that this has been of some help in sorting things out.
From my perspective, the most important thing for you is to get your wife offf your back for a few days. Give you some flexibility.
Good luck, and happy mongering,
GThanks a lot for the tips.
I will definitely keep them in mind and use them for advantage on my next trip, next year.
My apologies on two counts. I've been away and just now got back to the forum; sorry for re-hashing old content. Second, the length of this post: for those looking exclusively for information on how to find Pinay in-out, in-out, these aren't the droids you're looking for. What follows is for the half dozen others. Waste of band width? Depends where you sit.
I'm not particularly invested in the idea, but I think a few guys didn't get the memo about the demise of the military-industrial complex:
. SNIP. .Skip why are you discussing this on the Manila thread? Maybe you should apologize on three counts?
Soapy Smith
05-29-13, 05:23
Skip why are you discussing this on the Manila thread? Maybe you should apologize on three counts?Because this is the thread where it ran from May 23rd to 25th, with contributions from GE, FF, GE again, Surfer, WR, then me, PB, GE again, and then PB again. I would gladly have transplanted it into the "USA Politics" thread (there really is one in the Phils forum, last used in 2006), but I have never found instructions anywhere in the site to move quotes from one thread to another. Please pm me with instructions if you know how.
But in keeping with the community spirit: sorry, sorry, sorry.
But in keeping with the community spirit: sorry, sorry, sorry.It was actually a rhetorical question but your answer is acknowledged.
I am always more inclined towards making gentle reminders to the "old hands" who sometimes think we are running a blog on World Politics instead of, as the name of the website implies, providing advice more useful to mongers.
No harm no foul.
Sharky Skinner
05-29-13, 12:47
Assumption: your 10-hour layover allows you an 8-hour window of opportunity because you'll be back at NAIA 2 hours prior to departure to complete flight check in (15-45 min) , immigration (15-45 min) and walk to your gate.
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Anyway, a 6. 5.7. 5 hour window allows you ample time to have a shag. Unless you have an absolutely reliable girl already lined up to meet you at your hotel I think MBC is your safest bet as it has plenty of girls. For hotties it's hit and miss, mostly miss. An escort is also a viable option. And if you arrive on a Sunday your commute times will be much shorter.Thanks for all the good info Guys! I will start setting up some contacts. Is DIA a escort / dating agency, club, or what? BR Sharky (In China this week)
Other members are looking forward to your third post. Great name BTW. I'm glad to hear that your psy feels good.
LOL this guy is a trip.
It would be quite interesting to put some of the "old hands" in one room and see how the conversations progressed.
It was actually a rhetorical question but your answer is acknowledged.
I am always more inclined towards making gentle reminders to the "old hands" who sometimes think we are running a blog on World Politics instead of, as the name of the website implies, providing advice more useful to mongers.
No harm no foul.
It happened to me yesterday and I couldn't believe it. Was sitting in Burger King at Robinsons Midtown when a well dressed and clean Filipino guy smiled his widest grin, began waving at me and walked over to my table to shake hands. I asked him if I knew him. He said he was from my hotel. The clown was summarily and rudely dispatched. Newbies beware. Very bad things could happen.
GE, relative to me, you aren't old at all, but I will accept your basic premise that you've become a crotchety ol bastrd. (Disney movie with lots of balloons comes to mind).
I used to love the Sunflower live club in Cebu. But you really couldn't talk much unless you got at least half way back in the seating. This annoyance wasn't terribly bad if you were with a gal that is more physical than communicative, or if you just want to dance.
Sadly, Sunflower is no longer an option. Once I bumped into Spamhog there, I wonder where he goes to dance these days. SH, are you still here? X.
I guess my age is showing, in that it must be the younger guys who can tolerate the clubs. Once, when I was staying at the New World, a friend led me to Palladium for a drink, and the noise was so deafening that I found it intolerable after 15 minutes or so and had to leave. It was impossible to have any sort of conversation and the music was several generations beyond what I recognize as music. I add this comment as a word of caution to the doddering set, in which I firmly include myself, that the pain of going to these places (assuming Palladium was typical of the noise level) might not be worth the trip, at least if you're over 50 and your musical tastes are frozen somewhere around the Rolling Stones era.
GE
It would be quite interesting to put some of the "old hands" in one room and see how the conversations progressed.Kindly do not schedule such a meeting before nap time as the cacophony of snores may be deafening.
Unfortunately, there are some very naive people who still get played. As a young guy I got duped by a bar girl in Philadelphia, just buying drinks. It wasn't much, but the duplicity was so shocking to me. I'm guess that made me more cautious later on.
It happened to me yesterday and I couldn't believe it. Was sitting in Burger King at Robinsons Midtown when a well dressed and clean Filipino guy smiled his widest grin, began waving at me and walked over to my table to shake hands. I asked him if I knew him. He said he was from my hotel. The clown was summarily and rudely dispatched. Newbies beware. Very bad things could happen.
Cacophony.
What a great word. I wouldn't even know how to pronounce it.
Kindly do not schedule such a meeting before nap time as the cacophony of snores may be deafening.
Irony Monger
05-29-13, 15:58
It happened to me yesterday and I couldn't believe it. Was sitting in Burger King at Robinsons Midtown when a well dressed and clean Filipino guy smiled his widest grin, began waving at me and walked over to my table to shake hands. I asked him if I knew him. He said he was from my hotel. The clown was summarily and rudely dispatched. Newbies beware. Very bad things could happen.Yes, this is a common scam. Try asking "Oh, and which hotel is that?"
Tally Wacker
05-29-13, 16:43
Yes, this is a common scam. Try asking "Oh, and which hotel is that?"Happened to me also over a year ago in the same place. I did ask "Oh, and which hotel is that?". Funny thing is the guy guessed the right hotel or probably followed me from my hotel down the street. I was looking for a cell phone store wich he directed me to and walked with me there. I told him a number of times durring the walk that I don't need his help anymore. He said he had a friend in one of the many cell cubicle stores. He spoke Tagalog to the attendent. I know now he was negotiating his cut of the transaction and cost me a few more pesoes plus another few pesoes to get rid of him. I guess this is a common scam in that area and its not just one guy who does it. Lesson learned.
I have so little patience with such con men that I refuse to even engage in any banter with them, particularly after running errands in Ermita where every drunkard, drug addict, bum, criminal, street girl, or watch / cialis / viagra vendor attempts to find their way into my pockets. My response was quite short, succint and bastos.
Soapy Smith
05-30-13, 01:25
Kindly do not schedule such a meeting before nap time as the cacophony of snores may be deafening.And is this necessarily any different than after nap time? Besides, if it were done openly, such as at Starbucks, it could be entertaining for locals who often have trouble finding entertainment other than cockfights and basketball or horse races on TV.
WestCoast1
05-30-13, 05:52
LOL this guy is a trip.Yes. Quite so:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1428292&viewfull=1#post1428292
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1426888&viewfull=1#post1426888
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1425756&viewfull=1#post1425756
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1417801&viewfull=1#post1417801
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1411894&viewfull=1#post1411894
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1407315&viewfull=1#post1407315
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1394705&viewfull=1#post1394705
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1393957&viewfull=1#post1393957
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1388939&viewfull=1#post1388939
FeelGood: We are waiting with baited breath your third magnum opus (post). You'll include a pic, right?
Thanks X.
Pete Benetar
05-31-13, 10:07
Recent history suggests that America's "rational" foreign policy is written by shadowy characters in the military industrial complex.This is what I was referring to as the historical M-I complex has been one of guys in uniform and conglomerates making big guns and stuff. The joint chiefs or General Dynamics have precious little to do with decisions to deploy or what our foreign policy is. Cozy, DoD-private sector revolving door corruption does not start wars. The democrats got us into Vietnam and the republicans got us into Iraq; so it's not really a partisan thing either. BTW, largest expense categories in the US DoD are personell and ops / maintenance; doesn't really conform to that whole M-I ballyhoo in the context of starting wars. I'd be happy to exchange barbs on the subject on the US politics MB.
Apologies in advance
I share your lack of patience, but I still try to avoid unpleasantries. They are just people trying to make a few pesos.
I had a really nice Rolex that lasted two months. It was quite a conversation piece since the 6 was inverted. I think I paid less than 500 pesos.
Met a gal Kathy who didn't like the MBC vibe. Just hanging out on the street. Cute college girl who had no curfew. FB seems to confirm she's a college girl. I did feel a bit guilty when Mom rang her up asking where she was.
As for the obvious con men, ask them if you can take their picture. X.
I have so little patience with such con men that I refuse to even engage in any banter with them, particularly after running errands in Ermita where every drunkard, drug addict, bum, criminal, street girl, or watch / cialis / viagra vendor attempts to find their way into my pockets. My response was quite short, succint and bastos.
Tally Wacker
05-31-13, 15:42
I share your lack of patience, but I still try to avoid unpleasantries. They are just people trying to make a few pesos.
I had a really nice Rolex that lasted two months. It was quite a conversation piece since the 6 was inverted. I think I paid less than 500 pesos.Haha sounds more like a Rolodex. I have a few of those knock offs that came from China that look quite flashy.
Was in Jolliebees Robinson and the I work security in your hotel guys comes up. Hey how are you. Great you got a job not many do in Manila. Your kids having a birthday party? Even better for you. You have a job and family. What you brought your kid to jolliebee with out any money to pay for the party. Man you sure are fucked up. Your poor kid must feel like shit.
2nd. Horse and buggy to the fort. Ok, how much. 350 peso. Ask girl you want? Of course yes. So ride to fort. Walk around. Coming out he goes next is China town. Great we will go where you take us. Half way thru China town get the my horse is tired. Tell him shot the fucking horse, eat it and get another. Minute later my horse really tired you pay 3, 500 peso so I can buy him water. I laugh and ask how much Shambo you been smoking. You said 350 peso that is all you will get from me. Then no 350 each and for each 1/2 hour. I ain't laughing no more. Tell him pull fucking thing over. Wait till girls feet hit sidewalk and tell him I said 350 and that is it. He goes 3, 500. I climb out. Tell girl to start walking. Of course she ignores me. Tell him I will bust his head on side walk and fuck his horse before I give him 3, 500. He goes 350 each I got to make living. I think about math. Give him 700 peso but tell him I would rather play basketball with his head on street and fuck his horse but dumb girl would not walk up street. So gave him 700 and walked away. It was an 1. 5 ride. It was a good trip thru China town. The horse was only 3 years old so did not need to be shot and ate. But sure hate that shit.
Oh, WR reminded me to leave terminal turn left and go to line for yellow cab. Told lady where I was going. She said 250 to 300 and gave me paper to Manila Pavilion. It was 230 on meter when I got there. When I got to room I ask province girl from Cebu what she paid from domestic airport. 1000 peso. I said shit you did not ask a cop for help did you. I told you not to do that. She said yea and he got her a van for a 1000 peso. Told her I paid 230 and just laughed as they fuck there own like us Kanos when they can. At least she only paid 236 from hotel to airport. Got to teach them. She really was scared about the horse and buggie guy. Shit I am 100% serious. I could have thrown him in in pasig river and gave the horse to the poor for food and never would of had a problem.
Stay 11 nights same girl. Did not fuck anything else. Went at it two hours. And slept for 18 after one time. Thank God for Calais. Sure saw lots of fine meat giving me the I want money look everywhere we went. Except when we went to star city for the rides. I was the only Kano there. And the kids were running and screaming and it was just like in the states. Everyone stood in lines. Prices were posted. It was first time in Manila I felt like a normal guy in a normal place. No [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) smell, no shit smell. Kids not asking for money. But I am to old for those rides. Had a headache for a 1/2 an hour after the one that turns you upside down and stuff. Of course out front street kid wanting tip to flag down cab. Back in Manila. Just like that.
Hey I did take the train around. Went thru Edsa and Makati on the MRT. So I have been there now. Even saw the area RK lives in. Not sure which building but I was there. That is my trip report. Oh yea, the new Galaxy 4 with a credit card cost 32, 000. 00 peso. And they can play video games on them while you recharge the old battery. Yea I got her one. And she drank a lot of milk for it. I feel good about the deal. You all be safe.
Hi, Holiday Inn & Suites Makati is a new hotel attached to the Glorietta Mall. Does anyone know if it's girl-friendly? My experiences with IHG hotels have not been very good from that standpoint, even in Manila. Thanks! Mahal
Wicked Roger
06-02-13, 19:55
Hi, Holiday Inn & Suites Makati is a new hotel attached to the Glorietta Mall. Does anyone know if it's girl-friendly? My experiences with IHG hotels have not been very good from that standpoint, even in Manila. Thanks! MahalYes it is, most of Manila hotels are, but booking with 2 guests (as advised many times) you can avoid any concerns you may have
Blackangst
06-02-13, 20:44
Was in Jolliebees Robinson and the I work security in your hotel guys comes up. Hey how are you. Great you got a job not many do in Manila. Your kids having a birthday party? Even better for you. You have a job and family. What you brought your kid to jolliebee with out any money to pay for the party. Man you sure are fucked up. Your poor kid must feel like shit.
2nd. Horse and buggy to the fort. Ok, how much. 350 peso. Ask girl you want? Of course yes. So ride to fort. Walk around. Coming out he goes next is China town. Great we will go where you take us. Half way thru China town get the my horse is tired. Tell him shot the fucking horse, eat it and get another. Minute later my horse really tired you pay 3, 500 peso so I can buy him water. I laugh and ask how much Shambo you been smoking. You said 350 peso that is all you will get from me. Then no 350 each and for each 1/2 hour. I ain't laughing no more. Tell him pull fucking thing over. Wait till girls feet hit sidewalk and tell him I said 350 and that is it. He goes 3, 500. I climb out. Tell girl to start walking. Of course she ignores me. Tell him I will bust his head on side walk and fuck his horse before I give him 3, 500. He goes 350 each I got to make living. I think about math. Give him 700 peso but tell him I would rather play basketball with his head on street and fuck his horse but dumb girl would not walk up street. So gave him 700 and walked away. It was an 1. 5 ride. It was a good trip thru China town. The horse was only 3 years old so did not need to be shot and ate. But sure hate that shit.
Oh, WR reminded me to leave terminal turn left and go to line for yellow cab. Told lady where I was going. She said 250 to 300 and gave me paper to Manila Pavilion. It was 230 on meter when I got there. When I got to room I ask province girl from Cebu what she paid from domestic airport. 1000 peso. I said shit you did not ask a cop for help did you. I told you not to do that. She said yea and he got her a van for a 1000 peso. Told her I paid 230 and just laughed as they fuck there own like us Kanos when they can. At least she only paid 236 from hotel to airport. Got to teach them. She really was scared about the horse and buggie guy. Shit I am 100% serious. I could have thrown him in in pasig river and gave the horse to the poor for food and never would of had a problem.
Stay 11 nights same girl. Did not fuck anything else. Went at it two hours. And slept for 18 after one time. Thank God for Calais. Sure saw lots of fine meat giving me the I want money look everywhere we went. Except when we went to star city for the rides. I was the only Kano there. And the kids were running and screaming and it was just like in the states. Everyone stood in lines. Prices were posted. It was first time in Manila I felt like a normal guy in a normal place. No [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) smell, no shit smell. Kids not asking for money. But I am to old for those rides. Had a headache for a 1/2 an hour after the one that turns you upside down and stuff. Of course out front street kid wanting tip to flag down cab. Back in Manila. Just like that.
Hey I did take the train around. Went thru Edsa and Makati on the MRT. So I have been there now. Even saw the area RK lives in. Not sure which building but I was there. That is my trip report. Oh yea, the new Galaxy 4 with a credit card cost 32, 000. 00 peso. And they can play video games on them while you recharge the old battery. Yea I got her one. And she drank a lot of milk for it. I feel good about the deal. You all be safe.Never heard that one in jollibee before.
I hope that 32k was for 2 galaxy 4s.
BrainDrain
06-02-13, 22:38
When I got to room I ask province girl from Cebu what she paid from domestic airport. 1000 peso. I said shit you did not ask a cop for help did you. I told you not to do that. She said yea and he got her a van for a 1000 peso. Told her I paid 230 and just laughed as they fuck there own like us Kanos when they can.SO, ultimately whom paid the P1, 000. Did it come from the girls money or did you pay it to her anyway?
I find the girls are very easy to spend my money. They are much more generous to tip my money than they ever would their own money. A good looking girl at airport looking for a taxi to a western friendly hotel. The P1, 000 is a tourist tax.
FreebieFan
06-03-13, 08:04
Had another Manila trip. Sat here trying to remember the highlights.
Firstly if the New World wasnt so close to GB3 theres no reason to stay there. Way way too many staff all standing around with nothing to do but having a look at you and your companions. Crap showers that are either too hot or cold, an aircon system that I couldn't figure out, soft beds, elevators that whine up and down all night long, and thats in the renovated rooms. I was on Exec floor and each time I had company have to walk past the ladies at the Exec lounge desk. They saw me frequently. I'd prefer to be less conspicuous. The othre saving grace for NW is that the sliding bathrom door allows you to view your lovelies in shower before they come to bed. Often unknowingly.
This trip managed to catch up during down times with Red Kilt, and Good Enough. Both fine educated, erudite, and wise men of this board.
The whole reason for the trip was to score another virgin, and to get out off helping the gf in Beijing move apartments. Arrived early early, checked in, went to buendia terminal to meet Miss Cherry. She was with her fat cousin so P300 meant sure the fat cousin took the bus home to Batangas. Me and the virgin head to the room. She had chosed some christian music for deflowering mood setting and sure enough, as the crescendo of " I love Jesus" rang out, her little cherry popped. She had a lovely little body but was quite lazy. A 300 metre walk later towards landmark seemed to render her tired. She spent all day and night in bed. I had her now and and again and tended to my many other chores. Kicked her out after 24 hours and no honey " I'm not going to meet your parents".
Next up was a DIA gal who had clearly said she was up for fun. She was only 30 minutes late. Clearly she had added a pound or two from the pics she sent me (GB 3 full of fatties. Filipina and fat are becoming synonomous) but she delivered well. Have a video to review later of a well administered HJ / BJ. She left with a blue note.
Then along came a sweet happy 21 year old. 46 kgs. We had fun swimming then drinking. I could tell we werent going to bonk, but I was ok with that as needed to save some energy anyways. Did have lots of fun just chatting whilst fingering her, vibrating her and learning about all her past bfs which included a German, who liked her to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in his mouth. How nice! She left quite drunk.
I headed to review the fine beers of Fairmont, then to Pburgos where my regular 22 year old, awaits me. She's good for one night on all my trips, and as she's only 42 kgs suits my size requirements well after the fatties.
She stayed and in the am had lots of phone tag and some who had said would come didn't, and other said they were suddenly free. Narrowed it down to a 25 year old who I had meant to try on many previous trip but never quite had. She looked same as photos, I knew she had baby and she duly had baby belly disaster. We agreed she should keep her shirt on. Nice little bonk then she gave me a lovely long slwo bf which was duly recorded.
I then went to ayala station to meet a lady from Taytay rizal. She had never been in makati before. She was slim and lovely and 23 and she knew we might only have time for a one hour bonk as she was 2 hours late. However she turned out to be a tiger in bed (said no sex for 2 years?) so I decided to keep her. We went out at night and she only left the next morning. No honey I'm not going to have dinner later with your auntie either.
A 19 year old from DIA then arrived form Pasay. Also a little fatter than I like, but she tried hard and had giant tits. I was happy gettting a lovely titwank from them. She left with P500 bus fare and seemed reallly happy about that.
Only two hours late was then a 20 year old from Bulucan who came with cousin. Cousin was way better than she was so we all went to my room along with two big bottles of red horse. The horse soon kicked in and I found that one had small tits one had big, one was shaved and one wasnt and one liked to kiss and another was crap at kissing. Or drunk. They stayed two hours, no sex but lots of happy play and both had a quick try at sucking.
So then its nighttime. I had sent out my number on wechat and dia to see what happened. Got a bite and evntually met one outside Rogues. Went to Le Curieux bar near burgos. Fabulous house music, cheap drinks. Nice outdoor setting. Recommended. Went back to room and then the night fell apart. She tells me all her problems (your 21 honey, how many problems can you have ). Etc. Gave the poorest attempt at a HJ that I've ever had. Tells me she went to parlour before meeting me so I should pay her for her parlour costs etc. Gave her a blue note, told her to leave. She insists she wants p2000. Told her I'm calling security and she hop skipped and jumped out the room. Whiner with a poor attitude when the clothes were off.
There were a few others I could have met but they will wait for next time. So overall another tiring trip.
Manila is fine and more fun as always.
Hi all,
Firstly my sincere apologies that I'm having to ask a question which has likely been answered hundreds of times previously. However, I have now spent a few hours wading through this thread and can't find the info I need.
So here it is: I'm flying into Manilla in a few hours, and will be staying near the airport as I have a flight very first thing tomorrow morning. I'd like to make the most of things though and get myself laid. One of my problems though is that I'm sharing a room with a friend so won't be able to entertain there. Thus, the question is does anyone know of somewhere with girls and rooms available (ideally in the Paranaque area, which is where I'll be staying). The type of scenario in my mind is like a massage parlour or equivalent, but I have no idea if they exist at all in Philippines.
Any help is very very much appreciated.
Regards
WestCoast1
06-03-13, 13:39
FF: Nice report. Newbs, pay attention to the detail.
WC
somewhere with girls and rooms available (ideally in the Paranaque area, which is where I'll be staying). The type of scenario in my mind is like a massage parlour or equivalent, but I have no idea if they exist at all in Philippines.Flight 168 (inside Air Force One) and Starfleet fit your requirements and are recommended.
Samsung store 2nd or 3rd floor Robinson. The real Samsung store. Posted cost 31k something I used CC and it was 32K.
Yea you are right that it was my 1K to pay for taxi, This one in all other cases for several years has been a penny counter. And has even paid money back. Yea the only one who in 20 years has. I know It is hard to Believe. But said that to say think she trusted pinoy cop. And it don't work out any better for them than us. Was my point anyhow. But you did make a factual point. I was paying.
There are several scams posted on this board for years. And I am a security guard at your hotel has been a constant one on this board. Now I have to admit that I did not know it was the scammer until I had time to think about it. At the time I just thought what kind of fuck up guy would take his kid to a party with no money. Then in time thought hay that is the scam I have read about here on this board for years in Robinson mall where it is always reported as happening.
Hope that answers the questions. RED
Yes, this is a common scam. Try asking "Oh, and which hotel is that?"And if he, by simple luck or because he saw from which hotel you walked out, has the right answer you can cross check him by setting up a trap, like saying "Oh yeah, I think I saw you in the breakfast restaurant, on the second floor". And ofcourse the breakfast restaurant in your hotel is anywhere but on the second floor.
I got very quickly rid of one of these guys this way.
Econo Tech
06-04-13, 02:17
Samsung store 2nd or 3rd floor Robinson. The real Samsung store. Posted cost 31k something I used CC and it was 32K.
Yea you are right that it was my 1K to pay for taxi, This one in all other cases for several years has been a penny counter. And has even paid money back. Yea the only one who in 20 years has. I know It is hard to Believe. But said that to say think she trusted pinoy cop. And it don't work out any better for them than us. Was my point anyhow. But you did make a factual point. I was paying.
There are several scams posted on this board for years. And I am a security guard at your hotel has been a constant one on this board. Now I have to admit that I did not know it was the scammer until I had time to think about it. At the time I just thought what kind of fuck up guy would take his kid to a party with no money. Then in time thought hay that is the scam I have read about here on this board for years in Robinson mall where it is always reported as happening.
Hope that answers the questions. REDAnd for newbies, beware the "Security Guard" scam, as well as "hey buddy, remember, we met in Singapore?" for example, if you are wearing a Singapore T Shirt.
Most of the scammers are ex-sailors, or OFWs, so there is a chance they travelled around the world. So they may sound too convincing.
PST: I am not sure if this going to nice to say it. But. Samsung S4, the LTE model, is 780 S$ about 22, 000 Peso LOL.
Yep, it is in Singapore though.
Member #4387
06-04-13, 05:05
First of all I want to adress following comments to Freebies report. I did not find it boring at all as I am more like you in my pickings. It seems though as a lot of fellow ISG'ers don't want to go through the, according to them, hazzles it is to pick up / meet girls from datingsites / freelanceplaces (for freelanceplaces they use the you can not trust them excuse). But what is realy better we are different in our mongerings. In SEA in general everything can be had and coming here it sure makes me feels I am a child in a candystore.
I find datingsite girls no waist of time and I both have the time and enjoy as well to make prearrangements before my trips into SEA. This time I closed down, according to some others reports of mine, a lot of contacts through DIA and Filipino Cupid. I kept one highclass girl from DIA though as she seems to good to be true but I want to find out if she is or not. She is a Prive girl and according to some there are no easy girls there. I would not mind though checking her out through normal mechanisms hehe.
Well arriving on Sunday into the Manila candystore around 6pm I had my hotelpickup waiting and a girl coming. I think of pinays allways late so I felt no worries I told her to arrive at my place around 8pm. Traffic was easy, for once, and I did have some time to spare after doing a very rapid check in and reorganize my belongings. So I decided to hit up a Mercury drugstore to buy some beers and waters. And what happens? At 7:30pm she calls me and tells me she is outside entance in a taxi. But she can not recognize me. I do use a slightly different pic fro a another guy but when we met up she thought I looked much better than in pics, hehe. That is allways a good start when you see this big big smile in a girls face bcs then chances of this beeing good session is great (this was once again a Pinalove).
Sunday eve was great I brought some Jose Cuervo Especial tequila which she enjoyed so she soon got tipsy. Wow she was also more beutiful than in her pics so we have from Sunday, the hole of Monday ex 1 hour eating at the Pizza Hut, until today (Tuesday) at 10am stayed in room and fucked everywhere. Never ever have I during so short period of time fucked so much and in so many different places. When it came to money the only time she mentioned something around this issue was when we went to Pizza Hut then she said and I qoute "do you pay all or I chip in?" But without she knowing I put 6000php into one envelope only bcs I wanted to. But she did never look into this purse upon leaving.
This is probably no report ISG members only do hookers will enjoy but I can not care as we are a lot of members and there will be something for everyone out there. Someone like this and someone like that. Accordings to my inbox many people (a lot of younger guys) enjoy mine. So rants from only hookers guys is not needed. I will never in this decade do hookers only. I have my ST places around and they are all in hookers (like BG in BKK and occationaly A very short time (VST) in Pattis) but for the LT play of mine I choose semi pro or regulars only. Just my style. And I don't rant you guys wanting barfining and dooing all time P4P all the time so just be gentle guys, hehe.
Today I am about to meet a nice girl I believe at 8pm in my lobby. Now it is pool time and relaxation for a while after 40 hours with the same girl.
S
And for newbies, beware the "Security Guard" scam, as well as "hey buddy, remember, we met in Singapore?" for example, if you are wearing a Singapore T Shirt.
Most of the scammers are ex-sailors, or OFWs, so there is a chance they travelled around the world. So they may sound too convincing.The "I know you" scam is a very good reason why it is not a good idea to have your name easily visible on your bags (either carry-on or check-in) with these new fancy luggage labels that you can have made in most malls and that can be read from several meters away. If you want your bag to be easily distinguishable then use a colored ribbon or a strip of tape on a corner or something that is not part of your identity.
I always cringe when I see filipinos (usually) with their name, address and phone number written in large black letters across the sides of their pasalubong bags and boxes. It gives a potential scammer a lot of information about a person so that if he / she is a professional con-artist they can carry off their approach with a lot of credibility.
Of course it can be helpful too. One trip I was standing next to a very attractive woman at the baggage carousel and she had her name prominently visible on her backpack and I casually said "Hi. Is your name Ann-Marie?" and she was surprised, and gave the big smile with the "Hi. Yes - I'm Ann-Marie" and put out the hand for shaking. "Have we met before? How do you know my name?"
If I had been a scammer I could have gone to work but instead I just pointed to her name displayed on her bag and she giggled (as they do) and said "Oh yes of course hahaha". It was a nice ice-breaker and maybe it could have lead to something more if I had been "scouting" but we just chatted for a few minutes and then went our separate ways.
Member #4387
06-04-13, 07:57
Hi, Holiday Inn & Suites Makati is a new hotel attached to the Glorietta Mall. Does anyone know if it's girl-friendly? My experiences with IHG hotels have not been very good from that standpoint, even in Manila. Thanks! MahalI have one friend checking in 2 days ago. I just talked to him as I have been busy with a pinalove girl. He has brought some girls over and as usual the only time thay look weird at him are when he isbwalking alone into his room. Yes it is very GF.
Hi guys,
This is the wrong forum for this topic but I'm hoping some members might be prepared to share their wisdom. Looking for a couple of members that are running their own business within PI, that would be willing to meet share a beer and a chat. I want to hear all the pros and cons (although I think I have heard all the cons)
Or maybe someone might suggest a good forum.
Please PM me if you are will to help.
Thanks
LuvAsianTang
06-04-13, 15:39
Other members are looking forward to your third post. Great name BTW. I'm glad to hear that your psy feels good.Ha ha good one x man,
But wouldn't that also mean that you are now a transgender aka X man? Hmmmmmm. Food for twat, I mean thought.
LuvAsianTang
Oh my god does that mean that I'm asian tang? Luv, AsianTang I guess it all depends on how you interpret.
Hi guys,
This is the wrong forum for this topic but I'm hoping some members might be prepared to share their wisdom. Looking for a couple of members that are running their own business within PI, that would be willing to meet share a beer and a chat. I want to hear all the pros and cons (although I think I have heard all the cons)
Or maybe someone might suggest a good forum.
Please PM me if you are will to help.
ThanksYou aint heard all the cons, there are new ones every month / year. Just do NOT do it!
Member #4387
06-05-13, 19:47
Met up with a girl Tuesday night around 8pm. Great Pinalovespinner 25yrs. 45kg and 165cm arrived in the lobby and felt proud picking her up. Another great encounter beautywice. Well off into the room she did infact started this rants of me beeing a player. I told her what she had responded to before we met so she was a bit shy at first and it looked like she would back down and return. Well it did not happen so we hit the sack.
A bit reluctant she was but gave a food performance incl whatever I could wish for. Even if she was very beautiful we did not get the normal chemistry needed to say this was a great session. She was a bit to obsessed with me beeing a player, sth I ofcourse tried to talk myself out of, but with very little sucsess if I may say so.
Well a bit DATY, BBFS, DFK, BBBJ where to be had but after the 3 round I cave in and ended the setup. Changed into jeans, and polos and wanted to hit up a great nightclub. Well ICON was closed and Palladium as well. Got a driver promising me good time down around resort world but we seemed to pass that place and I ended up at
Asian Entertainment. This is by far not my kind of places as it is a regular stripjoint with takeout and lineups but when showed the place I found it rude not to participate. There were some girls dancing on stage naked but did not watch so closely as I found the other girls not dancing more beautiful. Lets say this was maby around 4am. Mama very friendly and she gave me a speach could well have been adressed on an airplanes PA system (sounded well rehersed). Got myself a couple of double vodka and redbulls to easy my pain and mama sat up a lineup for me. Where a couple of koreans watching as well but they did not disturbed. Picked the girl seemingly like me the least and that was actually a great choice, hehe. She was a tall cebuano with pale skin and lets guess around 165 without her high heels, weighed almost nothing. I asked soon after talking to her for takeout and that was 8000php and the total bill was around 12000php. Got back to my apartment and by God she had to have some sort of connection with him. What a performance. My pipeline seemed jammed so I just fucked and fucked until daylight broke. She offered ass as well and all ofcourse BB but I did decline ass though as I don't trust girls like this to much. Friendly as she was she joined in when the cleaninglady arrived around 10am. Beeing well brought up I kept my distance in my bed. After numerous of sessions she left 11 with an additional 1000php for taxi or sth. I just gave it to her. She atleast made it out the door, and I made it to the SM Supermarket to buy sth unuseful stuffs, just before my noonish Pinalove nr 3 arrived in the lobby. Wow great mongerday.
LuvAsianTang
06-05-13, 23:51
Met up with a girl Tuesday night around 8pm. Great Pinalovespinner 25yrs. 45kg and 165cm arrived in the lobby and felt proud picking her up. Another great encounter beautywice. Well off into the room she did infact started this rants of me beeing a player. I told her what she had responded to before we met so she was a bit shy at first and it looked like she would back down and return. Well it did not happen so we hit the sack.
A bit reluctant she was but gave a food performance incl whatever I could wish for. Even if she was very beautiful we did not get the normal chemistry needed to say this was a great session. She was a bit to obsessed with me beeing a player, sth I ofcourse tried to talk myself out of, but with very little sucsess if I may say so.
Well a bit DATY, BBFS, DFK, BBBJ where to be had but after the 3 round I cave in and ended the setup. Changed into jeans, and polos and wanted to hit up a great nightclub. Well ICON was closed and Palladium as well. Got a driver promising me good time down around resort world but we seemed to pass that place and I ended up at
Asian Entertainment. This is by far not my kind of places as it is a regular stripjoint with takeout and lineups but when showed the place I found it rude not to participate. There were some girls dancing on stage naked but did not watch so closely as I found the other girls not dancing more beautiful. Lets say this was maby around 4am. Mama very friendly and she gave me a speach could well have been adressed on an airplanes PA system (sounded well rehersed). Got myself a couple of double vodka and redbulls to easy my pain and mama sat up a lineup for me. Where a couple of koreans watching as well but they did not disturbed. Picked the girl seemingly like me the least and that was actually a great choice, hehe. She was a tall cebuano with pale skin and lets guess around 165 without her high heels, weighed almost nothing. I asked soon after talking to her for takeout and that was 8000php and the total bill was around 12000php. Got back to my apartment and by God she had to have some sort of connection with him. What a performance. My pipeline seemed jammed so I just fucked and fucked until daylight broke. She offered ass as well and all ofcourse BB but I did decline ass though as I don't trust girls like this to much. Friendly as she was she joined in when the cleaninglady arrived around 10am. Beeing well brought up I kept my distance in my bed. After numerous of sessions she left 11 with an additional 1000php for taxi or sth. I just gave it to her. She atleast made it out the door, and I made it to the SM Supermarket to buy sth unuseful stuffs, just before my noonish Pinalove nr 3 arrived in the lobby. Wow great mongerday.Hey Skogis,
Did you find Pinalovespinner on dia also? I have been using that source almost exclusively lately with great luck. I'm even getting very pickier as to who I sleep with and have had a few 10's on my scale of 1 to 10. Most have been GFE even though I've told them upfront that I'm just after a good time and most likely nothing will come of it. There are a lot of pinays out there who need love too.
I still go to the bars but it gets tiresome buying lady drinks only to find out that you are sitting with a gorgeous cherry girl or she has her menstruation and the bar fines are getting way out of line.
Anyway thanks for the inspiration and keep on pooning
LuvAsianTang
She was a bit to obsessed with me beeing a player, sth I ofcourse tried to talk myself out of, but with very little sucsess if I may say so.
Changed into jeans, and polos and wanted to hit up a great nightclub. Well ICON was closed and Palladium as well. Got a driver promising me good time down around resort world but we seemed to pass that place and I ended up at Asian Entertainment.I get the playboy accusation from time to time too. When it's a firmly held conviction I tell her she's right and challenge her to change my ways by taming my libido. Get her mood in the right place with an objective to attain.
Republiq at Resorts World is open Wed night, and after midnight is the time to arrive. If you google "republiq nightclub guestlist" you'll find the mobile numbers of promoters who may add you to it so you don't have to pay the door charge, but since you're dropping p12k on a girl the p600 you'll save at Republiq is chump change to you. I'm sure you know that your taxi driver took you to the alternate location to get his cut.
Highlights of the week so far. Monday night: Saw "Hangover 3" at GB1 with a girl I met three times before. Got a bottle of rum, cokes, plastic cups and ice at the Rustan's downstairs and starting mixing drinks once the theater's lights went down. After her 2nd drink she put my hand up her skirt. I told her to take off her panties, which she did. Right there in her seat. Daring girl. Finger banged her there. After the flick she drove me home and she spent the night; told me she always wanted to be fingered in public. Wed afternoon another girl came over for a second meet. She texted me a few days earlier that she wanted me to buy a dildo so she could be double penetrated. I said I would. And I didn't. Mainly because she stopped responding to texts for a few days. Wed morning she texted and said she be over at 2. Upon her arrival I explained that I didn't buy the dildo because I didn't know whether she was going to come over. She's cool with the explanation. Into the bed where I BB her pussy and ass. I asked her if she still wanted to be doubled and she said yes. I told her I have a sausage in the fridge and I could slide a condom over it."What colour is the sausage?" This unexpected question cracked me up."It's a bratwurst, same colour as my cock." "Okay." Told her to get into doggy position. I slid that up her pussy and started fucking her ass. After a while she begs me to stop and she rushes into the bathroom."Baby, what happened?" "I was afraid I was going to squirt."
I told her I have a sausage in the fridge and I could slide a condom over it."What colour is the sausage?" This unexpected question cracked me up."It's a bratwurst, same colour as my cock." "Okay." Told her to get into doggy position. I slid that up her pussy and started fucking her ass. After a while she begs me to stop and she rushes into the bathroom."Baby, what happened?" "I was afraid I was going to squirt."Which hole was she going to squirt from? Front good, back bad. ;)
Slim
Member #4387
06-07-13, 16:02
I get the playboy accusation from time to time too. When it's a firmly held conviction I tell her she's right and challenge her to change my ways by taming my libido. Get her mood in the right place with an objective to attain. Republiq at Resorts World is open Wed night, and after midnight is the time to arrive. If you google "republiq nightclub guestlist" you'll find the mobile numbers of promoters who may add you to it so you don't have to pay the door charge, but since you're dropping p12k on a girl the p600 you'll save at Republiq is chump change to you. I'm sure you know that your taxi driver took you to the alternate location to get his cut.I knew and recognised this from other places in the world as we passed Resort World. TAxis have certains provision from bring customersw here and there. But I thought and I was kind of tired as well, since it was late anyway and I am almost never at places when you can do a decent barfine, hehe, that this would be a reason for me to enter the more normal monger world (maby not pricewice though). Prices don't worries me to much but I try to stay within decency atleast when it comes to my pickups and in compensation (learned from here). I have been ranted for my spendings before. I have my own mongerstyle though and so far I will not change it. But I am still a mongerer. And ofcourse I can afford it. What comforts me a great deal about this Asian Entertainment place and the barfine of 8000php is: I heard from my friend staying in Holiday Inn Makati almost same building as Ascott Makati that Liberty Island (he went there and did a great take out) runs same pricings and this was after I spend my money at Asian Entertainment (I guess they are both in Pasay?). But ofcourse double vodkas redbull adds up in places like this hehe. But ofcourse I wanted realy to go to Republic. LOL
You aint heard all the cons, there are new ones every month / year. Just do NOT do it!Is it bad to meet up with members from here? I was going to try and reach out for my next trip in July just to help ensure I don't make the same newbish mistakes that I did this past March.
Tally Wacker
06-08-13, 22:57
Is it bad to meet up with members from here? I was going to try and reach out for my next trip in July just to help ensure I don't make the same newbish mistakes that I did this past March.I believe Sxxxx was referring to running a business in Phil when he spoke about cons. BSticks if you made a few newbie mistakes on your first trip why would you repeat those mistakes? I don't see any report of your trip so why don't you give some details?
I believe Sxxxx was referring to running a business in Phil when he spoke about consYeh I quoted Dazza Ar business query and replied to it. Was only referring to folks thinking of starting a business in Philippines. Thought that was pretty clear.
I believe Sxxxx was referring to running a business in Phil when he spoke about cons. BSticks if you made a few newbie mistakes on your first trip why would you repeat those mistakes? I don't see any report of your trip so why don't you give some details?Oh my bad, I misread what Sxxxx was referring to.
I didn't register to this forum until after my trip although I read some posts before I went in March. Some of my mistakes were:
1. Gave way too many roses (10k pesos overnight) for an online escort companion (My biggest) and only 1 pop. Rookie mistake although it lasted a few hours.
2. Met a completely pure girl on blossoms, that actually went well although she wasn't that great at hotel overnight activities because she never had done it before.
3. Did a film recording of my overnight activities and my stupid pillow blocked half of the fun so you can't see half of it (also a rookie mistake)
4. Did NOT stay at a girl friendly hotel. I stayed at the Best Western Hotel La Corona in Manila. It had a great breakfast buffet and was nice rooms but definitely should of stayed at a hotel that was girl friendly because they kept stopping anyone I was with.
5. Never was brave enough to go out and try any of the clubs or bar places that I often see members of. I was really worried about getting mugged or into trouble and wasn't comfortable trying it without another American with me since I'm still in my mid 20s, I stand out very easily.
Tally Wacker
06-09-13, 19:27
Oh my bad, I misread what Sxxxx was referring to.
I didn't register to this forum until after my trip although I read some posts before I went in March. Some of my mistakes were:
1. Gave way too many roses (10k pesos overnight) for an online escort companion (My biggest) and only 1 pop. Rookie mistake although it lasted a few hours.
2. Met a completely pure girl on blossoms, that actually went well although she wasn't that great at hotel overnight activities because she never had done it before.
3. Did a film recording of my overnight activities and my stupid pillow blocked half of the fun so you can't see half of it (also a rookie mistake)
4. Did NOT stay at a girl friendly hotel. I stayed at the Best Western Hotel La Corona in Manila. It had a great breakfast buffet and was nice rooms but definitely should of stayed at a hotel that was girl friendly because they kept stopping anyone I was with.
5. Never was brave enough to go out and try any of the clubs or bar places that I often see members of. I was really worried about getting mugged or into trouble and wasn't comfortable trying it without another American with me since I'm still in my mid 20s, I stand out very easily.When you say "because they kept stopping anyone I was with". Do you mean the hotel staff did not let you bring a guest in? Girl friendly hotels stop and check guests identification for your safety.
It sounds like you understand the mistakes you made and you should be able to correct those by reading the forum and asking a few questions. Don't be too intimidated by going alone to a girly bar because the atmosphere is pretty much like any regular bar accept there are a lot of young pretty girls inside. If your concerned about your safety the Burgos area of bars is about the safest but also more expensive for drinks and taking out girls. Make sure you know the drink and barfine prices before you go to a place then confirm once your there. If you don't like what you see then get up and walk next door to another place.
. Never was brave enough to go out and try any of the clubs or bar places that I often see members of. I was really worried about getting mugged or into trouble and wasn't comfortable trying it without another American with me since I'm still in my mid 20s, I stand out very easily.Mid twenties, no need to go out, girls knocking the hotel door down to get at you. Old mongers stand out very easily too, but that does not stop them from Mongering.
Irony Monger
06-10-13, 01:21
4. Did NOT stay at a girl friendly hotel. I stayed at the Best Western Hotel La Corona in Manila. It had a great breakfast buffet and was nice rooms but definitely should of stayed at a hotel that was girl friendly because they kept stopping anyone I was with.Most hotels will stop the girls and ask for ID, then let you pass. This is for your security in case the girl leaves with your valuables while you are asleep (and because the doorman is looking for a tip). That does not make the hotel non-GF. If, however, a hotel stops you and says you can't come in with the girl no matter what, that's another issue. I doubt you had the later problem at the La Corona.
Most hotels will stop the girls and ask for ID, then let you pass. This is for your security in case the girl leaves with your valuables while you are asleep (and because the doorman is looking for a tip). That does not make the hotel non-GF. If, however, a hotel stops you and says you can't come in with the girl no matter what, that's another issue. I doubt you had the later problem at the La Corona.Best western la corona on del pilar street is girlfriendly. Girls cannot enter by themselves. You need to meet them outside and escort them. When I stayed here they never checked I. The of girls. I believe you need to escort them out as well. I did.
Oh my bad, I misread what Sxxxx was referring to.
I didn't register to this forum until after my trip although I read some posts before I went in March. Some of my mistakes were:
1. Gave way too many roses (10k pesos overnight) for an online escort companion (My biggest) and only 1 pop. Rookie mistake although it lasted a few hours.
2. Met a completely pure girl on blossoms, that actually went well although she wasn't that great at hotel overnight activities because she never had done it before.
4. Did NOT stay at a girl friendly hotel. I stayed at the Best Western Hotel La Corona in Manila. It had a great breakfast buffet and was nice rooms but definitely should of stayed at a hotel that was girl friendly because they kept stopping anyone I was with.
5. Never was brave enough to go out and try any of the clubs or bar places that I often see members of. I was really worried about getting mugged or into trouble and wasn't comfortable trying it without another American with me since I'm still in my mid 20s, I stand out very easily.Other have covered the "girl friendliness" of your hotel, but your FR peaks my interest.
In reverse order.
5. Why did you feel you'd be mugged or get into trouble? Was it a vibe you got on the street? From FR's here? News reports? Since you weren't going out to bars how did you meet the girls you were trying to bring to you hotel?
4. How did you select that hotel? Since you did the research before arriving did you read the Manila Hotels thread? When the guards stopped you and your girls what happened next? Apologize and send the girl home? Go to another place? Did you speak to the front desk about its guest policy? Did you consider checking out and going to another place? Seems to me you were there for several days; why didn't you post a question about the hotel here when this happened?
2. By "completely pure" girl I assume you mean virgin, yeah? Did you know this beforehand or was it a in-bed revelation? Did you expect a virgin to be more talented in bed? How'd she get into the hotel?
1. How did this one get into the hotel? Or did you go to her place?
I have met several guys who "monger" over the years and they all displayed similar characteristics sadism, stinginess, pseudologia fantastica, extreme mood swings and last but not least an extreme arrogance which is ironic when chasing prostitutes / impoverished women for hobby or out of necessity.What an extraordinary statement!
I am sorry that the guys you have met "over the years" have displayed such extreme characteristics.
I have met around 10 guys from ISG in person "over the years" and ALL of them have been normal, sensible, intelligent, mostly well-educated, fully employed and thinking guys who simply enjoy the company of women.
I pity your life if the anti-social mongers that you describe are the sort of guys that you meet or, even worse, attract as your friends.
GoodEnough
06-10-13, 08:34
What an extraordinary statement!
I am sorry that the guys you have met "over the years" have displayed such extreme characteristics.
I have met around 10 guys from ISG in person "over the years" and ALL of them have been normal, sensible, intelligent, mostly well-educated, fully employed and thinking guys who simply enjoy the company of women.
I pity your life if the anti-social mongers that you describe are the sort of guys that you meet or, even worse, attract as your friends.I normally "snip" posts, but RK's was worth repeating in its entirety. I of course, agree completely with RK, and think that this poster's comments reflect more on himself or perhaps his view of himself than they do on the members of this forum. Like RK I've met a few ISG members over the past decade, and most of them have been, as RK said, intelligent, decent, interesting people with real day jobs.
think that this poster's comments reflect more on himself or perhaps his view of himselfYeah. Highly likely.
Like RK I've met a few ISG members over the past decade, and most of them have been, as RK said, intelligent, decent, interesting people with real day jobs.Having met around a dozen of members of ISG, I can fully support RK and GE.
Pip Jaeger
06-10-13, 11:04
As a young guy I would give guys who participate in this hobby a wide berth.
I have met several guys who "monger" over the years and they all displayed similar characteristics sadism, stinginess, pseudologia fantastica, extreme mood swings and last but not least an extreme arrogance.Many of your posts over the past year seem to point to attacks against foreigners in the PI's and backhanded slaps against ISG members. Is your recent opinion another attempt at dissuading men from visiting or were you just being sarcastic and we missed it?
If you were being serious, I'll respond by saying that I don't know what type of places you frequent to meet the "mongers" you describe (but I'd be interested in knowing so I can avoid them and you as well) , but the overwhelming majority of the guys I've met in Manila, Makati, AC, Subic, Cebu and Davao (plus in many other cities throughout the US and Europe over the past 30 years) at various clubs, bars and restos have been "normal" type guys who enjoy the risk and the subsequent reward (s) of pursing "normal girls", SW's, FL's, etc. All told I'd say it's over 100 guys (about 9 or 10 from ISG) and about the only trait I'd say that was common among them was an abundance of confidence, which, I'll readily admit, can sometimes be confused with arrogance. But then again I'd venture to say confidence is a trait that is required to pursue our hobby in any country and especially to travel to or live in a 3rd world country and pursue it.
To BSticks, thanks for sharing your story and welcome to world of mongering. As far as meeting members from here I'd suggest you read some their past posts to get a feel for them first and to see if they are the type of person you would want to meet. But first you need to pay Jackson his $20 so you can send / receive PM's. And don't forget to read the oft overlooked "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread; a lot good info is there.
I have met several guys who "monger" over the years and they all displayed similar characteristics sadism, stinginess, pseudologia fantastica, extreme mood swings and last but not least an extreme arrogance which is ironic when chasing prostitutes / impoverished women for hobby or out of necessity.Sounds like just about every bloke I met in my travels in Scotland. You sure you weren't there?
RK, I agree that I am all the other things you mentioned. And I do think you are all the things mentioned. But I sure as shit ain't normal. And I got that from Mom herself so it ain't open to discussion.
As a young guy.As an older guy. 57, I would say to you that you don't know what you are talking about. The mongers I've met between the ages 30 and 70 have been intelligent, friendly and successful. Maybe you will achieve this as you age but so far it does not look too good for you.
Wicked Roger
06-10-13, 16:04
Many of your posts over the past year seem to point to attacks against foreigners in the PI's and backhanded slaps against ISG members. Is your recent opinion another attempt at dissuading men from visiting or were you just being sarcastic and we missed it...PJ, RK, GE et al.
I have FR before about FP and agree with your statement (I have to be careful what I say at the moment LOL) but clearly what I said before is borne out by his FR (can't read the original post can anyone else?) the to which many of the senior members replied. I have met many ISG guys and most, if not all, can't be described the FP way. Complete opposite. The one I meet and see (some on a regular basis) for dinner etc are just normal good guys who are enjoying their hobbies. There are of course a few cheap charlies (always will be) and they have manifest themselves on this board a few times. We know who they are but best I not name them but a search of the FRs will easily spot them. Those I avoid and generally can tell from other signs prior to meeting that a coffee will be a waste of pesos and my time.
As PJ said FP. Please name and shame those places where these 'bad cheap nasty' mongers hang out so we can all avoid and let you and others visit and FR on it.
Other have covered the "girl friendliness" of your hotel, but your FR peaks my interest...To those who previously answered, I had an extra overnight guest charge for the expensive rose female companion who was only with me for one night (I stayed 6 days) , which is why I stated it wasn't girl friendly although I really did like that their breakfast buffet so it still was a decent hotel. The girl who I was with most of the time got stopped and carded but I had her listed under my guests and she was with me when I checked in so the only thing I've been able to come up with is maybe I was limited to 2 adults for my room and when I had the expensive rose girl stay the night on one of them they thought I had three people in my room? It could still be my fault where I shouldn't list anyone under my guest for the stay and just check 1 person a night.
1) They came to my hotel each night. The only night I got an extra occupancy charge was on the night expensive Rose girl stayed over. On all other nights where I had the blossom girl stay over (she was with me on check in) I had no issues outside of her occasionally getting carded when I was not near her.
2) I knew she still had her vcard but I guess I'm used to girls who are naturally more liberated on the subject and have forgotten how inexperienced girls really don't know that much on what happens in the bedroom. The vcard girl I was with was new to everything and it took her a while to get the hang of it.
4) Like I stated above I put the girl I was mainly with on part of my occupancy list and didn't have an issue with her. It was the one night I had another girl over instead that I had to come down to the lobby, check her in, escort her out, and on checkout day I had an extra charge from that night. Trust me I wanted to get on this site but only had my work laptop and this isn't exactly the kind of forum you want to login on a work owned laptop.
5) I met the one girl ahead of time on a dating site and the other I risked it and went with an Internet website. I really just wanted one good overnight adventure with a girl who knew what she was doing and was fun to be around. I really wanted to go out but in the first 48 hours I got approached by about a half a dozen strange men at various times who asked me a wide variety of questions such as "do you want to go shooting with me" or "I know of a great massage parlor, you should come". It's possible they were just being friendly and I was suffering from culture shock but the majority of guys who approached me looked like they were in their 50s. 60s. Plus as I stated, I'm in my mid 20s so I stick a lot more because I really didn't see any Caucasian, blue eyed. 20 some year olds on my entire trip to Manila. Maybe it gives me an advantage with some of the girls but it definitely also drew the attention of a lot of strange, middle aged men. Which spooked me a bit. Hence me joining this site in hopes of finding good advise and maybe a senior member to guide me so I can learn more about Manila in a safe manner.
Tally Wacker
06-11-13, 03:28
I really wanted to go out but in the first 48 hours I got approached by about a half a dozen strange men at various times who asked me a wide variety of questions such as "do you want to go shooting with me" or "I know of a great massage parlor, you should come". It's possible they were just being friendly and I was suffering from culture shock but the majority of guys who approached me looked like they were in their 50s. 60s. Plus as I stated, I'm in my mid 20s so I stick a lot more because I really didn't see any Caucasian, blue eyed. 20 some year olds on my entire trip to Manila. Maybe it gives me an advantage with some of the girls but it definitely also drew the attention of a lot of strange, middle aged men. Which spooked me a bit. Hence me joining this site in hopes of finding good advise and maybe a senior member to guide me so I can learn more about Manila in a safe manner.Hey BSticks are you planning on paying the small fee to be a member here?
I'm curious what brought you to Manila in the first place? Yes its true you won't run in to a lot of young blue eyed Caucasian guys in the Philippines and that's the good part. You just need to learn to politely dismiss the middle aged Filipinos who offer you services and other stuff. They are just trying to hustle you for a few pesos and its normal to ignore them.
What is your home country or state?
To those who previously answered, I had an extra overnight guest charge for the expensive rose female companion who was only with me for one night (I stayed 6 days) , which is why I stated it wasn't girl friendly although I really did like that their breakfast buffet so it still was a decent hotel.Thanks for taking the time to answer. The hotel wasn't as unfriendly as I initially thought. What was the joiner fee? If you google "girl friendly hotel manila" you'll find a list of hotels that don't charge joiner fees. One site does a particularly good job by emailing the respective hotel managements and posting the responses. Of course management policies may change and info becomes stale, so it's always best to inquire before booking. I'm sure you understand that a hotel requiring your guest to present an ID to register is for your and other guests' safety.
For a cherry-busting trip you did alright. Hell, you even popped a real cherry, and if you read the board you'll often come across guys looking for that - some willing to pay quite a bit to do so. Each guy has his own Goldilocks story and finding the girl who's "just right" is much of the fun. And it'll evolve too. Though the PI has a rep as a sexual playground many girls come from quite conservative backgrounds.
TW's reply is indeed accurate. I think Manila's rep for danger is a bit overblown, but since there are so many armed guards everywhere it may cause a bit of culture shock - the place looks like it's under siege. Anyway, a simple "No thanks" works well and firm "Wala" works with those who are more persistent. If you're hearing numerous questions or having a conversation with a guy in the street you're dilly dallying. Since you're paying a hotel you can always ask the concierge or security about local security and the best way to deal with annoyances. The area where your hotel is located is a bit dodgy, so if you felt uncomfortable with the street scene you could always taxi from your hotel to the bars. You were 2 and 3 blocks away from GPoint, Amazonia and MBC.
I think the take away for many newbs reading your FR is join ISG before you travel and avail yourself to the senior members' knowledge. Also, if you're stuck with a work-issued computer bring/buy your own device too, such as a smart phone to access wifi and that you can insert a local SIM.
FreebieFan
06-11-13, 05:58
As a young guy I would give guys who participate in this hobby a wide berth.
I have met several guys who "monger" over the years and they all displayed similar characteristics sadism, stinginess, pseudologia fantastica, extreme mood swings and last but not least an extreme arrogance which is ironic when chasing prostitutes / impoverished women for hobby or out of necessity.To add my fifty pesos worth of opinion to your highly charged, sensation seeking post, it would appear that you find yourself in a bit of minority. A minority of one. Then again they say that like attracts. Take a look in the mirror (but don't look too long. You probably know what ugly looks like) and wonder why the ones you meet have those characteristics.
Then again, have a look at your posts. The answer is probably there. Do have a good day.
OsakaGin11
06-11-13, 15:10
Speaking of different cons going on, in recent times I have come across several very beautiful Filipinas listed on the online dating site Tagged, claiming to be employed by an escort companies. And according to these gals, the only way to meet them, is to register with the company and pay an up front fee of $200, which entitles you to unlimited sex with them for 2 days. The other "catch", is that you can't meet the girl in person, until you pay the up front fee.
Now to me, this seems like a giant con. I am just wondering if anyone else has come across one of these gals offering this deal, on other dating sites such as DIA and if anyone has been brave enough to pay the up front fee and has managed to meet one of these gals?
Asian Rain
06-11-13, 15:15
Now to me, this seems like a giant con.100% scam. No one ever has to pay up front to meet girls, by escort service or other means, in the Philippines. In fact, in most cases, there is no reason to exchange any money until you have satisfactorily dumped your load. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain
PussyFeelsGood
06-11-13, 19:10
Bsticks. Keep your head down, say no thank you, and walk fast.
Stay on brightly lit crowded streets, very unlikely anyone does anything to you in front of others.
In the very rare case someone robs you hand them your wallet.
Manila is really intimidating but those guys are just trying to make a little money, if you say no thanks you shouldn't have a problem, some may get annoying and follow you for a bit but just make it clear you aren't interested.
Or just take a taxi wherever you want to go.
And come on guys, every monger is not a smart, educated, good looking guy with a brilliant personality.
If you can't admit that the majority are socially awkward then you aren't being honest with yourselves.
[QUOTE=PussyFeelsGood; 1432983]And come on guys, every monger is not a smart, educated, good looking guy with a brilliant personality.
QUOTE]Perhaps you are one of the exceptions, PFG. Haha
Exoticspirit
06-11-13, 23:35
Here's a wide open question, especially for those of you who have been to Manila. Assuming you get into the city (from AC) at about 3 pm and have about 12 hours until you should check into the airport at about 3 am for an early morning departure, how would you spent the available time left?
Where would you go and what would you do, assuming you would love to get in one more girl before your fly out. Include whether you would even bother checking into a hotel or not.
If coming in from A / C you might be on a swagman buss. I would go online and go to city garden, lotus garden, cherry blossom. Get a room for two. And go to MBC, and do several short times. And then head to airport. My two cents
Here's a wide open question, especially for those of you who have been to Manila. Assuming you get into the city (from AC) at about 3 pm and have about 12 hours until you should check into the airport at about 3 am for an early morning departure, how would you spent the available time left?
Where would you go and what would you do, assuming you would love to get in one more girl before your fly out. Include whether you would even bother checking into a hotel or not.Assuming the same budget and one doesn't already have women lined up via dating site or elsewhere I'd stick to Malate and Ermita. Easy to find FLs in the afternoon and early evening there (unlike Havana) and you could easily do 4 to 6 in the 12 hours. If one is looking for a better looking girl then it would be a Burgos bargirl in the afternoon / early evening and a Havana FL at night. In either area you can find a good-enough hotel room for p1500-3000.
Irony Monger
06-12-13, 17:29
Here's a wide open question, especially for those of you who have been to Manila. Assuming you get into the city (from AC) at about 3 pm and have about 12 hours until you should check into the airport at about 3 am for an early morning departure, how would you spent the available time left?If you want to stay reasonably close to the airport, you might try the EDSA complex. Have an early dinner at the Mall of Asia, then head over to the complex early and pick a girl (if you didn't already pull one from the mall). Plenty of short time hotels around there where you can spend the rest of the evening (Sogo, etc.). I would leave by midnight though, assuming your 3am flight is international.
WhatsUrName
06-12-13, 17:52
Here's a wide open question, especially for those of you who have been to Manila. Assuming you get into the city (from AC) at about 3 pm and have about 12 hours until you should check into the airport at about 3 am for an early morning departure, how would you spent the available time left?
Where would you go and what would you do, assuming you would love to get in one more girl before your fly out. Include whether you would even bother checking into a hotel or not.I wanted to second Redman's recommendation to stick to MBC and that area, including the hotels he recommended. MBC is close enough to the airport that you can still get there even in heavy traffic and a thunderstorm in 90 minutes, but the average would be about 45 minutes.
Exoticspirit
06-12-13, 19:36
If you want to stay reasonably close to the airport, you might try the EDSA complex. Have an early dinner at the Mall of Asia, then head over to the complex early and pick a girl (if you didn't already pull one from the mall). Plenty of short time hotels around there where you can spend the rest of the evening (Sogo, etc.). I would leave by midnight though, assuming your 3am flight is international.The flight is actually leaving at 6:30 am so that's why I thought a 3 am check in would be appropriate. I know Sogo has 12 hour stays available
PussyFeelsGood
06-12-13, 19:45
And come on guys, every monger is not a smart, educated, good looking guy with a brilliant personality.Perhaps you are one of the exceptions, PFG. HahaNo I have no problems admitting I'm not a 10/10 and am socially awkward (alot of which is because I don't care to socialize)
I avoid bars and mongers, the only person I want to talk to is the cute 20 year old chick thats lying in bed next to me.
I was forced to go to a bar in Pattaya to run an errand, of the 6 guys I had to sit around chatting with I would say 1 wasnt socially awkward, but he was also old and fat.
And in the hour I was there at least 30 minutes were spend with them talking about going to a massage place to get a blowjob with a thumb up their butts.
Just walk around Pattaya and angeles and look at the guys, there is a reason why we are here.
Of course some of you have been here so long you believe that the same 20 year old you get here would happily give you a blowjob back in your home country because you are such an awesome guy.
Irony Monger
06-12-13, 20:18
The flight is actually leaving at 6:30 am so that's why I thought a 3 am check in would be appropriate. I know Sogo has 12 hour stays availableThat's an important distinction. Personally I would actually stay in AC until midnight (get a short time room at Kokomos) , then get Margarita station to drive you to MNL in time to check in at 3am, assuming anyone would actually be at the check-in counter at that time.
That's an important distinction. Personally I would actually stay in AC until midnight (get a short time room at Kokomos) , then get Margarita station to drive you to MNL in time to check in at 3am, assuming anyone would actually be at the check-in counter at that time.I do not think there are short time rooms at Kokomo's, be willing to bet on it. But Koko's will arrange a car to Manila, do not know how it would compare re cost, with arranging a car with Margarita though.
FreebieFan
06-13-13, 03:00
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Of course some of you have been here so long you believe that the same 20 year old you get here would happily give you a blowjob back in your home country because you are such an awesome guy.Are you 50 pesos in disguise? Or just another self confessed socially awkward fellow who doesn't respond so well to the human race.
There are some of us for whom Asia is home.
Key Master
06-13-13, 07:17
The flight is actually leaving at 6:30 am so that's why I thought a 3 am check in would be appropriate. I know Sogo has 12 hour stays availableI'm curious what day you are leaving? Is it a Saturday or Sunday? It probably doesn't even matter too much to my answer, but I don't think you need to go to the airport that early. You are not likely to run into such traffic that you will be late. If you stay in Ermita or Malate near the MBC area like others are suggesting, it may take only 15-20 minutes from there to get to airport with no traffic. There is nothing to really do at the airport, no good restaurants. I'm assuming you are going to Terminal 1. Even if it's the other ones, not sure what will be open. Maybe you have lounge access? If you don't, I don't see the rush to get there that early. I say leave around 415-430 am would be plenty of time. Checking in is faster these days and immigration doesn't take that long especially at that time assuming International travel.
On your original question, yes I would check in to a hotel. It's more comfortable. You can easily get something for like 2200 or less and be good to go. Most of the other suggestions on where to go are pretty spot on on what options I'd consider. I'm not a fan of EDSA. I think Burgos takes time and late night is better but it's not cheap. You can't wait for them to get off work there if you meet someone working the night shift. Havana is hit and miss. I think it's mostly older women there but they get the some decent ones in there. I'd more likely push you to do MBC more, but for the most part, the best time to go is probably after 10 or 11 at night in regards to talent. It may depend on the day of the week though.
I'm curious what day you are leaving? Is it a Saturday or Sunday? It probably doesn't even matter too much to my answer, but I don't think you need to go to the airport that early. You are not likely to run into such traffic that you will be late. If you stay in Ermita or Malate near the MBC area like others are suggesting, it may take only 15-20 minutes from there to get to airport with no traffic. There is nothing to really do at the airport, no good restaurants. I'm assuming you are going to Terminal 1. Even if it's the other ones, not sure what will be open. Maybe you have lounge access? If you don't, I don't see the rush to get there that early. I say leave around 415-430 am would be plenty of time. Checking in is faster these days and immigration doesn't take that long especially at that time assuming International travel.Saturday traffic can be just as bad as mid-week sometimes. Sunday is always easy.
HOWEVER, just because the roads seem clear at 3 am doesn't mean there will be nobody at the airport.
I have breezed along EDSA at early morning (3 to 4 am) and suddenly run into enormous jams at the airport with teeming thousands of people there. Flights are coming and going at all times and the International Departures can be bedlam with unpredictable crowds.
Early morning departure means easy travel to the airport but it doesn't always translate necessarily into easy check-in or security checks.
The flight is actually leaving at 6:30 am so that's why I thought a 3 am check in would be appropriate. I know Sogo has 12 hour stays availableGet to the airport at 430. If you stay in the Ermita / Malate area leave at 4 for the airport, depending on the day of the week. If ithere's downpour at 3am, and it's been going on for a while, plan to leave earlier, say about 330.
That's an important distinction. Personally I would actually stay in AC until midnight (get a short time room at Kokomos) , then get Margarita station to drive you to MNL in time to check in at 3am, assuming anyone would actually be at the check-in counter at that time.The guy is here for 12 hours and you think it's advisable he spend 3 to 4 of those precious hours... ON THE ROAD?!? C'mon, m8! And if a big storm rolls in he could spend even more time... with the driver.
I'm curious what day you are leaving? Is it a Saturday or Sunday? [. ]
I'd more likely push you to do MBC more, but for the most part, the best time to go is probably after 10 or 11 at night in regards to talent. It may depend on the day of the week though.Good point about the departure day. For ops at MBC and the 'hood. After checking into the hotel go to MBC (say 4 or 430 pm) , have a drink, grab the girl that best fits your desires, and short time her. Cut her loose between 6 and 630. Go to Robinsons, get something to eat and recharge. Wander a bit but not too long. Grab a girl from Robinsons or return to MBC for another girl (say 730pm). Cut her loose at 10pm. Return to MBC and meet another one. Keep her to 1230 or 1. Then go get your fourth girl. Depart for airport. During the night one can mix things up a bit by going to Gpoint or grabbing a girl off the street. Or at 10 pm or 1am go to EDSA for something likely better than MBC.
Wicked Roger
06-13-13, 11:42
Saturday traffic can be just as bad as mid-week sometimes. Sunday is always easy.
HOWEVER, just because the roads seem clear at 3 am doesn't mean there will be nobody at the airport.
I have breezed along EDSA at early morning (3 to 4 am) and suddenly run into enormous jams at the airport with teeming thousands of people there. Flights are coming and going at all times and the International Departures can be bedlam with unpredictable crowds.
Early morning departure means easy travel to the airport but it doesn't always translate necessarily into easy check-in or security checks.I second RK FR. I went to Terminal 3 to say goodbye to cutie at 4. 30am and the queue to enter the terminals was basically as long as the terminal itself at each gate / Mass confusion abut who was in what line and what gate made it even more difficult.
Took us less than 20 minutes from Makati using Sky Way and I thought it would easy LOL
Exoticspirit
06-13-13, 13:54
HOWEVER, just because the roads seem clear at 3 am doesn't mean there will be nobody at the airport.
I have breezed along EDSA at early morning (3 to 4 am) and suddenly run into enormous jams at the airport with teeming thousands of people there. Flights are coming and going at all times and the International Departures can be bedlam with unpredictable crowds.
Early morning departure means easy travel to the airport but it doesn't always translate necessarily into easy check-in or security checks.
This does concern me which is why I was planning to get to the airport for 3 am even for a 6:30 am flight. I was originally hoping to even not go there until say 4:30 am but from some of the horror stories about the airport there.
Exoticspirit
06-13-13, 14:03
Good point about the departure day. For ops at MBC and the 'hood. After checking into the hotel go to MBC (say 4 or 430 pm) , have a drink, grab the girl that best fits your desires, and short time her. Cut her loose between 6 and 630. Go to Robinsons, get something to eat and recharge. Wander a bit but not too long. Grab a girl from Robinsons or return to MBC for another girl (say 730pm). Cut her loose at 10pm. Return to MBC and meet another one. Keep her to 1230 or 1. Then go get your fourth girl. Depart for airport. During the night one can mix things up a bit by going to Gpoint or grabbing a girl off the street. Or at 10 pm or 1am go to EDSA for something likely better than MBC.I'm thinking along the same lines for MBC although I would probably limit myself to 1-2 STs max and spend a few hours just sleeping too as I would need my sleep. I'm flying to Beijing where I have only several hours to get in some sightseeing before continuing on with the long flight back to North America. So it would be some time before I get the opp to really sleep again.
I'm also thinking about ending my time in Phils with a soapy massage at Starfleet (if the place is still open) or other place similar. I haven't had one of those since Thailand 15 years ago so this would be a good chance. Plus Starfleet if it still exists, is close to the airport
Of course some of you have been here so long you believe that the same 20 year old you get here would happily give you a blowjob back in your home country because you are such an awesome guy.Are you kidding? I couldn't get a twenty-something to tell me the time of day here in the USA And they only get worse as they age. Why do you think I go to Asia and elsewhere?
Member #4698
06-13-13, 15:48
I'm also thinking about ending my time in Phils with a soapy massage at Starfleet (if the place is still open) or other place similar. I haven't had one of those since Thailand 15 years ago so this would be a good chance. Plus Starfleet if it still exists, is close to the airportGood idea. Starfleet or Flight 168 (Airforce One) are both a great way to leave the PI with a smile on your face. The quality and convenience is worth the price.
Irony Monger
06-14-13, 03:56
The guy is here for 12 hours and you think it's advisable he spend 3 to 4 of those precious hours. ON THE ROAD?!? C'mon, m8! And if a big storm rolls in he could spend even more time. with the driver.You missed a key part of his original post.
Assuming you get into the city (from AC) at about 3 pm and have about 12 hours until you should check into the airport at about 3 am for an early morning departure, how would you spent the available time left?I was not recommending he drive from Manila to AC and back again in 12 hours, as that would be insane. I was suggesting that he not leave AC until later, since he will be coming from there and his flight does not actually leave until 6:30am. He could get a short time room in AC and a girl or two there much cheaper than the equivalent in Manila, and still make it to MNL in plenty of time.
You missed a key part of his original post.
"... (from AC)..." You mean he's not coming from Antigua and Barbuda?!? What kind of question is that he asked? Who leaves Angeles to arrive in Manila 12 hours ahead of departure? Who'd even consider such a thing? Stay in Angeles.
OR
"... (from AC)..." Argh! Damn parenthetical aside (of germane info ;) ). Good catch. You're right; it makes little, if any, sense to arrive in Manila 12 hours before departure if one just intends just to hookup with random FLs whilst here. Stay in Angeles.
Re my previous comment - In the words of Emily Litella: ""Oh, that's very different... :) Never mind."
Levitraboner
06-14-13, 05:13
Good idea. Starfleet or Flight 168 (Airforce One) are both a great way to leave the PI with a smile on your face. The quality and convenience is worth the price.I went to airforce one at the last minute before my flight. I thought it was a bit expensive for the quality. But then again I was comparing it to Subic and AC. I had a young MILF who gave mechanical service, but it worked. Some guy who worked there gave me a lift back to the airport although I was short a few Pesos.
Exoticspirit
06-14-13, 06:11
He could get a short time room in AC and a girl or two there much cheaper than the equivalent in Manila, and still make it to MNL in plenty of time.The AC hotel I'm staying at (the Devera) got back to me and said extending my checkout would be only 150 pesos per hour until 6 pm at which time they consider it an extra night's stay, which in my case would be 1200 pesos. I might consider doing that and check out at say midnight after doing 1-2 STs and getting some much needed sleep too.
Only thing is instead of taking the Swagman bus back to Manila at 600 pesos, I would be taking Margarita Station's at 2600 pesos, but they would be taking me directly to the MNL airport.
I had to read this three times to figure out what you were on about. Why don't you just say you misread the original post?
". (from AC)." You mean he's not Coming from Antigua and Barbuda? What kind of question is that he asked? Who leaves Angeles to arrive in Manila 12 hours ahead of departure? Who'd even consider such a thing? Stay in Angeles.
OR.
". (from AC)." Argh! Damn parenthetical aside (of germane info.). Good catch. You're right; it makes little, if any, sense to arrive in Manila 12 hours before departure if one just intends just to hookup with random FLs whilst here. Stay in Angeles.
Re my previous comment. In the words of Emily Litella: ""Oh, that's very different. Never mind."
BrainDrain
06-14-13, 22:27
The AC hotel I'm staying at (the Devera) got back to me and said extending my checkout would be only 150 pesos per hour until 6 pm at which time they consider it an extra night's stay, which in my case would be 1200 pesos. I might consider doing that and check out at say midnight after doing 1-2 STs and getting some much needed sleep too.
Only thing is instead of taking the Swagman bus back to Manila at 600 pesos, I would be taking Margarita Station's at 2600 pesos, but they would be taking me directly to the MNL airport.Sounds like you've really settled into AC. Try converting those numbers back into what you get for those same dollars back at home.
For me at home.
P150 15 minutes car parking.
P1200 One month pre-paid phone credit.
P2000 Dinner for two people, mains only.
I'm just meaning that sometimes the decisions we make now thinking we are savig on the local currency we look back upon when we are home and say "wow, for the price of this [meaningless intangible first world purchase], I could have two extra SL chicks and still made my flight."
Enjoy AC.
I had to read this three times to figure out what you were on about. Why don't you just say you misread the original post?Only thrice? Well done. I ain't writing for the colouring book crowd.
Exoticspirit
06-15-13, 05:11
Sounds like you've really settled into AC. Try converting those numbers back into what you get for those same dollars back at home.
For me at home.
P150 15 minutes car parking.
P1200 One month pre-paid phone credit.
P2000 Dinner for two people, mains only.
I'm just meaning that sometimes the decisions we make now thinking we are savig on the local currency we look back upon when we are home and say "wow, for the price of this [meaningless intangible first world purchase], I could have two extra SL chicks and still made my flight."
Enjoy AC.Very true. And no matter how much I will enjoy Phils, I'm probably not going to be in a position to come to Asia frequently.
Key Master
06-15-13, 05:20
This does concern me which is why I was planning to get to the airport for 3 am even for a 6:30 am flight. I was originally hoping to even not go there until say 4:30 am but from some of the horror stories about the airport there.Please update us after the fact. I'm curious your feelings after the fact if you go this route. I used to get there early like all the doom and gloomers suggested. Knowing traffic patterns help. I seriously doubt there will be any traffic at that time or any congestion at the airport that will not allow you to make your flight in more than enough time.
Please update us after the fact. I'm curious your feelings after the fact if you go this route. I used to get there early like all the doom and gloomers suggested. Knowing traffic patterns help. I seriously doubt there will be any traffic at that time or any congestion at the airport that will not allow you to make your flight in more than enough time.It's not doom and gloom KM.
It is the simple dysfunctional nature of life in the Philippines.
After living here for almost 16 years I have missed 6 flights because of traffic; 4 in Manila and 2 in Cebu. All were domestic flights.
By dysfunctional I mean that you just CANNOT predict what will be the situation. In Melbourne or Sydney for example, you know within 5 minutes how long it will take to reach the airport. Not so here.
If you want to roll the dice and beat the odds then by all means try to cut it fine with time. Chances are you will get away with it. But if do get delayed and you do end up needing to re-book an international flight and / or make another hotel booking and add on your transport costs to return to the airport then it can seriously affect a budget.
Nightrider1
06-15-13, 12:00
It's not doom and gloom KM.
It is the simple dysfunctional nature of life in the Philippines.
After living here for almost 16 years I have missed 6 flights because of traffic; 4 in Manila and 2 in Cebu. All were domestic flights.
By dysfunctional I mean that you just CANNOT predict what will be the situation. In Melbourne or Sydney for example, you know within 5 minutes how long it will take to reach the airport. Not so here.
If you want to roll the dice and beat the odds then by all means try to cut it fine with time. Chances are you will get away with it. But if do get delayed and you do end up needing to re-book an international flight and / or make another hotel booking and add on your transport costs to return to the airport then it can seriously affect a budget.I agree with Red Kilt. In Phil there are no guarantees what the situation will be. I remember my last flight from lahug Cebu to back home. It left at midnight and should take about 40 min to reach the international terminal but just as I left the hotel 2 hours before the flight, a torrential downpour started and the streets were flooded and impassable in places. Fortunately my driver knew every back alley and we even passed through some dodgy barangays. We did make it to the airport 35 min before departure. When I checked in the girl said the flight was fully booked but when I boarded there were 30 or 40 empty seats as we pulled away from the departure gate, so there were plenty of people who missed that international flight.
It is with great trepidation that I decide, once again, to challenge the esteemed ISG member Red Kilt.
Sixteen years is surely impressive, but how many flights have you made in that time? This is for statistical purposes of course. I could give a flying fk about how much you travel (no pun intended).
Furthermore, of the six flights you missed, how many were at 6:30am or earlier?
And lastly, you missed six flights? Are you a slow learner?
And, so as not to sow any animosity with the esteemed RK, I will admit that I missed a flight out of Manila once. It was not because of traffic, but rather my own stupidity. I glanced at the ticket and misread the flight number as the time. On departure day, when I realized my mistake, they put me on the next day's flight without any penalty. The unusual flexibilty was mostly because the country of destination was having some nuclear meltdown issues. So a lot of empty seats on the airplane.
X.
It's not doom and gloom KM.
It is the simple dysfunctional nature of life in the Philippines.
After living here for almost 16 years I have missed 6 flights because of traffic; 4 in Manila and 2 in Cebu. All were domestic flights.
By dysfunctional I mean that you just CANNOT predict what will be the situation. In Melbourne or Sydney for example, you know within 5 minutes how long it will take to reach the airport. Not so here.
If you want to roll the dice and beat the odds then by all means try to cut it fine with time. Chances are you will get away with it. But if do get delayed and you do end up needing to re-book an international flight and / or make another hotel booking and add on your transport costs to return to the airport then it can seriously affect a budget.
Just curious, were the flooded streets in Lahug, or on the Mandaue side, or the Lapu2 side? I tend to prefer Cebu usually and especially during rainy season, but find my self flying into Manila in August this year.
Anyway, you guys stay dry during the rainy season. X.
I agree with Red Kilt. In Phil there are no guarantees what the situation will be. I remember my last flight from lahug Cebu to back home. It left at midnight and should take about 40 min to reach the international terminal but just as I left the hotel 2 hours before the flight, a torrential downpour started and the streets were flooded and impassable in places. Fortunately my driver knew every back alley and we even passed through some dodgy barangays. We did make it to the airport 35 min before departure. When I checked in the girl said the flight was fully booked but when I boarded there were 30 or 40 empty seats as we pulled away from the departure gate, so there were plenty of people who missed that international flight.
One time I flew Cebu Pacific Manila to Dumaguete and the plane couldn't land because there was a problem with the brakes so we went back to Manila to switch planes.
I agree with Red Kilt. In Phil there are no guarantees what the situation will be. I remember my last flight from lahug Cebu to back home. It left at midnight and should take about 40 min to reach the international terminal but just as I left the hotel 2 hours before the flight, a torrential downpour started and the streets were flooded and impassable in places. Fortunately my driver knew every back alley and we even passed through some dodgy barangays. We did make it to the airport 35 min before departure. When I checked in the girl said the flight was fully booked but when I boarded there were 30 or 40 empty seats as we pulled away from the departure gate, so there were plenty of people who missed that international flight.
FreebieFan
06-15-13, 16:56
It is with great trepidation that I decide, once again, to challenge the esteemed ISG member Red Kilt.
Sixteen years is surely impressive, but how many flights have you made in that time? . I could give a flying fk about how much you travel (no pun intended).
Furthermore, of the six flights you missed, how many were at 6:30am or earlier?
And lastly, you missed six flights? Are you a slow learner?
And, so as not to sow any animosity with the esteemed RK, I will admit that I missed a flight out of Manila once.
X.And the point is. Why not ask him in a PM. To be honest, asking him to recollect what percentage of flights missed were pre or post 6. 30am isn't really relevant to a lot of us. (as in WHO CARES!)
Weve all missed Manila flights due to a variety of reasons. Lets move on.
Key Master
06-15-13, 20:57
It's not doom and gloom KM.
It is the simple dysfunctional nature of life in the Philippines.
After living here for almost 16 years I have missed 6 flights because of traffic; 4 in Manila and 2 in Cebu. All were domestic flights.
By dysfunctional I mean that you just CANNOT predict what will be the situation. In Melbourne or Sydney for example, you know within 5 minutes how long it will take to reach the airport. Not so here.
If you want to roll the dice and beat the odds then by all means try to cut it fine with time. Chances are you will get away with it. But if do get delayed and you do end up needing to re-book an international flight and / or make another hotel booking and add on your transport costs to return to the airport then it can seriously affect a budget.RK, I realize you have your own experiences. I have mine. I've been flying in and out of Manila for the last 10 years 2-3 times a year at least. Things have changed a lot in the last 10 years at least for flights at Terminal 1 the International Terminal. Check in lines at airline desks are shorter. Even for me, immigration after landing is all of the sudden much quicker. The line after checking to get thru immigration to go to your gate is quicker. The front of the airport can look like a mob scene but a lot of people are also there to say goodbye and are not going into the airport. Even then, the other day when it was an ugly afternoon out front, security guided foreigners to the front thru another door to bypass such lines. There is a change there whether you want to admit it or not. Even when I've been in a long line to get inside, and or even the immigration line, I made it to the gate with way more time than I needed. It just seems like things have changed. I realize that the locals seem to bog things down, but even then for some odd reason, it's always worked for me. If you are late for whatever reason, I would think that the airline will fast track you thru the processes to get you on the flight, just like pretty much any other airport or airline. Terminal 1 has made significant progress over the last 10 years I've been flying thru. The guy is flying out at 630 am in the morning. If he's flying out at 630 pm or 1830 hours, I would tell him to leave earlier also. I don't think leaving at 4 am is cutting it fine.
I agree with Red Kilt. In Phil there are no guarantees what the situation will be. I remember my last flight from lahug Cebu to back home. It left at midnight and should take about 40 min to reach the international terminal but just as I left the hotel 2 hours before the flight, a torrential downpour started and the streets were flooded and impassable in places. Fortunately my driver knew every back alley and we even passed through some dodgy barangays. We did make it to the airport 35 min before departure. When I checked in the girl said the flight was fully booked but when I boarded there were 30 or 40 empty seats as we pulled away from the departure gate, so there were plenty of people who missed that international flight.I realize that weird things can happen. If it's been raining and raining, sure I would think you know you have to leave earlier due to road conditions changing. Isn't that common sense? You had a ride that takes 40 minutes to the airport that you assumed would be easy with 2 hours to departures. Isn't that cutting it a bit close? We are talking here about a drive here of maybe 15. 20 minutes with no expected traffic at all at 3-430 am. It may even be faster than that in reality. Not asking him to cut it close. I was there in Ermita when that big rain happened about 4-5 years ago and in Manila / Makati, where it flooded the streets of Mabini. I was out all night and it rained all night long. When I got up in the morning and saw the streets flooded, I didn't even bother to go the flight. I wasn't flying out in those conditions. I didn't call or check the airlines. I later learned, they had cancelled all flights as it is. Common sense? For me, most likely so. This guy if he stays in Ermita is talking about getting to the airport at 3 am. 3.5 hours before the flight departs, and you took a taxi 2 hours before a flight with a 40 minute drive time? Plenty of people missed the flight? Were they foreigners or locals? Let me take a guess. Come on.
And the point is. Why not ask him in a PM. To be honest, asking him to recollect what percentage of flights missed were pre or post 6. 30am isn't really relevant to a lot of us. (as in WHO CARES!)
Weve all missed Manila flights due to a variety of reasons. Lets move on.Hey FF, why only on X? I've never missed a flight. Certain things can get in the way. Common sense plays a big part of it. We are talking about a flight at 630 am at Terminal 1 it sounds like.
I'm not going to discuss anymore on this thread in regards to this guy's flight anymore, it's taken enough space. I am pretty sure you guys will still argue your case and defend each other to the end without really looking at the circumstances presented. Given another departure time, I may say differently or if there were other extenuating circumstances, that usually require common sense. I've been on the roads at 3-5 am plenty returning from clubs or wherever.
PussyFeelsGood
06-15-13, 21:42
And the point is. Why not ask him in a PM. To be honest, asking him to recollect what percentage of flights missed were pre or post 6. 30am isn't really relevant to a lot of us. (as in WHO CARES!)
Weve all missed Manila flights due to a variety of reasons. Lets move on.Maybe try not reading it if you don't care?
I am staying at Cherry Blossom right now, the street towards MBC and Del Pilar is really untidy, I would have vomited if I didn't think about anything else!
Wow way too much detailed discussion here.
I was looking at the bigger picture. My key point was that in MOST airports that I have negotiated around the world it is fairly clear how much time it takes to get from home to the departure lounge. That CANNOT be said for Manila with any degree of accuracy within a 60 minute window.
It is much better for Cebu now. Each of the planes I missed in Cebu were caused by the original small 2 lane bridge being blocked by a truck break-down. The "new" bridge allows much more reliable access. When you fly domestically at least once per week, and sometimes to multiple destinations like I was doing a few years ago, then you get a little careless about time UNTIL you suddenly run into an obstruction that gives you no optional routes to get to the airport and you miss a flight.
If it is critical that you must catch a specific flight on a specific date, then my advice is to be conservative with timing and allow for unexpected contingencies. Sod's Law says that when you leave early for the airport there will be no traffic nor check-in delays and you will be 2 hours early. The obverse is that if you are a little late then all manner of obstructions will magically appear.
That's why I used the word "dysfunctional" in my earlier advisory.
FreebieFan
06-16-13, 04:58
Maybe try not reading it if you don't care?And how would you know that you don't care if you don't read. Had your coffee yet?
Econo Tech
06-16-13, 06:35
I am staying at Cherry Blossom right now, the street towards MBC and Del Pilar is really untidy, I would have vomited if I didn't think about anything else!You should get out more I guess. LOL.
Apart from Makati, not many places are clean. Or lack street children and the works.
Head far from Manila, and you may see cleaner places.
I usually stay in Rivera Mansion, and the short walk to Harrisons is a killer.
FreebieFan
06-16-13, 12:04
On many of my trips I've often had lunch in a small outdoor place in Market Market in Taguig that sells quite good sinigang. Haven't been there for 6 months or more.
Was quite suprised today when I get a message on a dating site from a girl cute pics asking if I have been to the small outdoor place in Market Market.
She replies she's served me there many times and could even tell me what type of Sinigang I always ordered.
Her pics indicated she was 26 and quite pretty and as she supplied her phone number I guess I will have to meet her on my next trip. Her pics certainly indicate she looks way better out of uniform than in it. Manila maybe a big city of 20 million people but coincidences can and do happen.
Went to MBC, a nice girl was smiling at me, we had a drink and agreed 2500 for overnight. Came back to hotel and did the first shot. After bath, the girl want to go back. I said I give you short time rate 1000. She refused and asked for 2. 5, we had a long argument and I called the security. Security tried to assit me but the girl asked for 1500. Finally I agreed to give away that money to that *****. So guys it was my mistake to disclose her my first time in Manila and she took advantage of that.
I have photos of that girl, will upload it later once I get Singapore. BTW her name is Leah.
Gajith,
Before posting the poor girls photo, you need to realize that 1500p is the ST going rate at MBC. Obviously, one can get cheaper depending on your rapport with the girl, which was nil in your case, hence her demand of the full rate. It pays to read the forum. It is the girls prerogative in switching to ST, as, yourself being so negative, she obviously did not enjoy your company at all and sought to extricate herself from the unhappy fellow.
Try to be more positive.
Of course she tried to pull a fast one, agreeing to 2, 5 LT with (perhaps) the intention of doing a runner, hence providing at least one repeat opportunity with another soft (er) punter, that same day.
If she unilaterally converts LT to ST the "going rate" for a ST is of little to no interest. It's really "up to you", in this case our esteemed member Gajith, to pay whatever he feels is reasonable, for the inferior services rendered.
Gajith,
Before posting the poor girls photo, you need to realize that 1500p is the ST going rate at MBC. Obviously, one can get cheaper depending on your rapport with the girl, which was nil in your case, hence her demand of the full rate. It pays to read the forum. It is the girls prerogative in switching to ST, as, yourself being so negative, she obviously did not enjoy your company at all and sought to extricate herself from the unhappy fellow.
Try to be more positive.
I agree with Noddy. Gaj agreed to 2. 5k for overnight. Some of these gals aren't too keen on doing two or three guys in a night. Some live far away and come into town for money, they don't have a place to sleep other than with you. And if they have family to deal with they can't do it twice or more a week, or even a month. Some would justifiably be scared to exit at hotel room at 3am in Ermita or most other places in MM. If they are new to the game, they might not even know the way back to MBC.
With all due respect to Gaj, we don't know all the details, but this girl is probably going to be a bit edgier just because of this experience. Don't change the rules in the room. If she was the one changing the rules, different story.
There are some really hard core gals at MBC and in Ermita. But anyone who spends time in town is also likely to find a few desperate gals who just want to make ends meet and are willing to put a smile on your face.
I have two phone number from two indecent encounters earlier this year in Ermita. Can't wait to meet them again. One is a college gal and the other is a very naughty single mother. Bless her heart.
Feel free to elaborate Gaj. If she was a be, tell us more. If you might have overreacted, feel free to admit it. We all make mistakes. Or, as they say,"no one's perfect".
Gajith,
Before posting the poor girls photo, you need to realize that 1500p is the ST going rate at MBC. Obviously, one can get cheaper depending on your rapport with the girl, which was nil in your case, hence her demand of the full rate. It pays to read the forum. It is the girls prerogative in switching to ST, as, yourself being so negative, she obviously did not enjoy your company at all and sought to extricate herself from the unhappy fellow.
Try to be more positive.
If I am not mistaken, the original question was about an early flight (6:30 am) and some subsequent posts were related to that post. Some people care and some people don't. Since I've had no trouble making 7 or 8am flights, I politely challenged RK, who is quite intelligent enough to respond. Or so I thought. Six missed flights. I'd like to hear more! Traffic and airport is hardly a "who cares" topic.
On the other hand, your imagined liason, with some uniformed waitress in Taguig, strikes me as a very interesting topic for everyone on ISG. Bravo. We are all looking forward to the denouement.
And the point is. Why not ask him in a PM. To be honest, asking him to recollect what percentage of flights missed were pre or post 6. 30am isn't really relevant to a lot of us. (as in WHO CARES!)
Weve all missed Manila flights due to a variety of reasons. Lets move on.
Exoticspirit
06-16-13, 15:48
Many thanks to EVERYONE for their input on my travel plans. What I've decided is that my original 2 night stay in Angeles is really not adequate so instead of coming back to Manila to spend an afternoon and early evening before getting to the airport, I'm going to extend my stay in AC (just another 1200 pesos at the Devera where I'm staying) for another full day. I'll get an early evening there too. These extra hours will give me some more time to not only explore more bars there, but also get a few hours of sleep in between.
The Devera is willing to get a driver to take me directly to the Manila airport for 2700 pesos anytime I want so I'll plan to depart AC by 1 am and get there for 3 am. Margarita Station would be the backup travel service (2600 P). This will give me a good safety cushion in case there are big lineups for my 6:30 am flight but if things go pretty smoothly and quickly, then I'm really only losing about 1-2 hours of sitting around.
At least I'll get to see more of AC with an almost 3 night stay rather than 2. Girls will be easier to get since if I don't see anything in one bar, I'll simply walk next door to another one. There will be less running around for me compared to if I was to spend an afternoon and early evening in Manila where MBC can be hit and miss (requiring me to get in a cab and go to another area like EDSA).
For the first part of my Phils trip, I'm actually heading down to Sabang Beach Puerto Galera first. On the way back north to AC, I have to change buses at Swagman and there might be a 2 hour wait. I could use this time to quickly walk down to MBC so I could say that I've actually been there even if not enough time to take a girl.
I think I'll be fine with a first Phils trip taking girls from both Sabang Beach and AC (and none from Manila). More than adequate. I'll even be willing to forget about ending up my trip with a soapy massage at Starfleet since it's certain that it will not be anything close to the ones in Thailand.
FreebieFan
06-16-13, 15:50
If I am not mistaken, the original question was about an early flight (6:30 am) and some subsequent posts were related to that post. Some people care and some people don't. Since I've had no trouble making 7 or 8am flights, I politely challenged RK, who is quite intelligent enough to respond. Or so I thought. Six missed flights. I'd like to hear more! Traffic and airport is hardly a "who cares" topic.
On the other hand, your imagined liason, with some uniformed waitress in Taguig, strikes me as a very interesting topic for everyone on ISG. Bravo. We are all looking forward to the denouement.Prior to this I had read your reports wondering what kind of fellow you are / were.
Asking RK to quantify the percentage of flights thats he has missed pre and post 6. 30 shows you thrive on inananity.
Prior to that the long winded discussion about missing a flight was normal. I guess given your sad little PM (oh bad Freebie said something nasty about me so I will hit him with a PM ). You can follow those others tossers on my ignore list.
As for whether my liasons are imagined or not. You might want to ask some of the boards finer members. They actually know what you don't.
Was lovely not knowing you.
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went to mbc, a nice girl was smiling at me, we had a drink and agreed 2500 for overnight. came back to hotel and did the first shot. after bath, the girl want to go back. i said i give you short time rate 1000. she refused and asked for 2. 5, we had a long argument and i called the security. security tried to assit me but the girl asked for 1500. finally i agreed to give away that money to that. so guys it was my mistake to disclose her my first time in manila and she took advantage of that.
i have photos of that girl, will upload it later once i get singapore. btw her name is leah.hmm is she the delicate fair maiden with short hair upto the nape of the neck and pretty fresh looking around 21? does her number end in *8563?
ps: i never paid more than 2k for any fl in the fortnight i was there including other places not in manila. i did 11 fls including one that stayed with me a few days. but then i almost always picked them up late past midnight so it was like an 8 hour rate.
-peeman
PussyFeelsGood
06-16-13, 20:37
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Hello All,
This may have been addressed in these 10K+ posts, many times but I have not found it in the latest few pages, if one can give me some pointers. I'd appreciate it!
Its going to be my first time in the PH and I plan to spend a few days in Boracay or the Palawan Islands.
I want to get my dame with me to my island from Manila (where I land). I know that many people do that, but where should / can I pick one when I land in Manila?
Can anyone advise me on that part of the process?
Appreciate any help that may come my way.
Karma rocks!
Hello All,
This may have been addressed in these 10K+ posts, many times but I have not found it in the latest few pages, if one can give me some pointers. I'd appreciate it!
Its going to be my first time in the PH and I plan to spend a few days in Boracay or the Palawan Islands.
I want to get my dame with me to my island from Manila (where I land). I know that many people do that, but where should / can I pick one when I land in Manila?
Can anyone advise me on that part of the process?
Appreciate any help that may come my way.
Karma rocks!Pick one island or pick one dame?
LexLuther
Hello All,
This may have been addressed in these 10K+ posts, many times but I have not found it in the latest few pages, if one can give me some pointers. I'd appreciate it!
Its going to be my first time in the PH and I plan to spend a few days in Boracay or the Palawan Islands.
I want to get my dame with me to my island from Manila (where I land). I know that many people do that, but where should / can I pick one when I land in Manila?
Can anyone advise me on that part of the process?
Appreciate any help that may come my way.
Karma rocks!In Manila.
. Since I've had no trouble making 7 or 8am flights, I politely challenged RK, who is quite intelligent enough to respond. Or so I thought. Six missed flights. I'd like to hear more! Traffic and airport is hardly a "who cares" topic.Sorry X.
I didn't think you were serious.
It was many many flights that I have taken (who keeps count?) and only 6 missed. So the chances of missing a flight due to traffic and / or airport congestion are probably low.
So I finally got my paid membership here. I've seen it mentioned time & time again in this thread to reach out to senior members about traveling to Manila and trying to plan a good trip. Who'd be good to reach out to? My trips about 5 weeks away I am currently looking at the 18th of July to the 26th or so.
Sorry X.
I didn't think you were serious.
It was many many flights that I have taken (who keeps count?) and only 6 missed. So the chances of missing a flight due to traffic and / or airport congestion are probably low.Hmm, because of this discussion, I started from my hotel at 7:30 am for a 10:30 am Cebu flight. From Ermita Chery Blossom it took only 20- 25 minutes and in 40 mins I was inside the boarding area. I did discussed with the driver about the traffic and he told me generally going to the airport doesn't get affected by the traffic since we are taking the road which is parallel to the sea. He also told, if we go to Makati area, there will be hell of traffic.
Thanks / G
hmm is she the delicate fair maiden with short hair upto the nape of the neck and pretty fresh looking around 21? does her number end in *8563?
ps: i never paid more than 2k for any fl in the fortnight i was there including other places not in manila. i did 11 fls including one that stayed with me a few days. but then i almost always picked them up late past midnight so it was like an 8 hour rate.
-peemanno peeman, she was 24 as per her but may be 27 according to her body. i never asked her number but she knows many people in mbc. nm just escaped from facing the police.
Gajith,
Before posting the poor girls photo, you need to realize that 1500p is the ST going rate at MBC. Obviously, one can get cheaper depending on your rapport with the girl, which was nil in your case, hence her demand of the full rate. It pays to read the forum. It is the girls prerogative in switching to ST, as, yourself being so negative, she obviously did not enjoy your company at all and sought to extricate herself from the unhappy fellow.
Try to be more positive.I could say that, I am not scammed if the asked price and agreed price are same. Here the agreed price was 2500 (which was brought down from 3500 after a drink, little flirting and ofcource little foreplay). The price was agreed for overnight. I told I am going to share the photo for my fellow mongers here. I don't think nobody like not keeping the word even it from a WG. I cut short the story yesterday because I was typing from my tab which is difficult for me comparing to pc / laptop. While walking towards the hotel we were discussing about morning plan since my flight to Cebu departs at 10:30.
Also I don't think I was rude at bed. She didn't even give the BJ, when I asked she told after first shot.
She was saying that, she need to come fast and fucked me wildly. I had to adjust to her (normally I do it to only my loved ones) After she came, I cleared my load in doggy.
After the bath, she was simply sitting at bed watching TV, when I asked her to lie down and watch, she said she want to go. So I got pissed off, I am thinking in a different way since she wasted my chance of picking a good girl from the MBC. So told her I will give her ST rate so that she can leave.
But she asked for the full 2500? Do you think its not scamming? She can politely accept my offer and leave if she was not comfortable with me or she done with her intention. .
I had to call reception to kick her out, but they were helpful in getting the money from me and gave it to her. I had received threatening from her about calling police. But I didn't care that time. Finally agreed to pay whatever she asked. During the argument she keep on saying that first time to manila, I will show you how is philippino people.
She just needed a cock to fuck and some money and wanted to run back for another dick. That's my understanding.
Thanks but I was requesting for more info on picking the dame.
Pick one island or pick one dame?
LexLuther
Thanks but could you point me to places where I should be able to get willing gals to join me for the island trip?
And what should I be paying per day for such an arrangement?
Any more info would be useful.
In Manila.
Get a pen cam and record it all.
At the very least you get a small gift she had no idea she was giving and could assist you if the police become involved.
It is all about protecting yourself
Thanks for the extra info Gajith. I've had some great and some bad times with the MBC ilk.
As for sitting in bed or laying in bed, not sure what that was about. Giving orders is best for gals you've known a while. From your story, it sounds like you picked a bad one. But my advice is that no matter how outrageous someone complains or confronts you, always look for the sliver of truth. That makes you a better person. And I mean that in the Philippines and everywhere else you go.
As for the photo, it seems you have paid the model fee. I suggest you post the photo, but maybe tone down your criticism. Something like,"not recommended".
I could say that, I am not scammed if the asked price and agreed price are same. Here the agreed price was 2500 (which was brought down from 3500 after a drink, little flirting and ofcource little foreplay). The price was agreed for overnight. I told I am going to share the photo for my fellow mongers here. I don't think nobody like not keeping the word even it from a WG. I cut short the story yesterday because I was typing from my tab which is difficult for me comparing to pc / laptop. While walking towards the hotel we were discussing about morning plan since my flight to Cebu departs at 10:30.
Also I don't think I was rude at bed. She didn't even give the BJ, when I asked she told after first shot.
She was saying that, she need to come fast and fucked me wildly. I had to adjust to her (normally I do it to only my loved ones) After she came, I cleared my load in doggy.
After the bath, she was simply sitting at bed watching TV, when I asked her to lie down and watch, she said she want to go. So I got pissed off, I am thinking in a different way since she wasted my chance of picking a good girl from the MBC. So told her I will give her ST rate so that she can leave.
But she asked for the full 2500? Do you think its not scamming? She can politely accept my offer and leave if she was not comfortable with me or she done with her intention. .
I had to call reception to kick her out, but they were helpful in getting the money from me and gave it to her. I had received threatening from her about calling police. But I didn't care that time. Finally agreed to pay whatever she asked. During the argument she keep on saying that first time to manila, I will show you how is philippino people.
She just needed a cock to fuck and some money and wanted to run back for another dick. That's my understanding.
get a pen cam and record it all.that's a very good idea, indeed!
i bought one cheap in cdr king but i can't seem find it (maybe some girl confirep001ed it lol).
note to self: re-stock.
At ISG, I'm never completely serious. I'm kind of surprised by your comment. At certain times of day, I'd be seriously worried about making my flight. I've stayed at hotels near the airport for exactly that reason. I'm sure some members are getting annoyed with this thread, so I will just say that early morning flights are the least of our worries.
Sorry X.
I didn't think you were serious.
It was many many flights that I have taken (who keeps count?) and only 6 missed. So the chances of missing a flight due to traffic and / or airport congestion are probably low.
At ISG, I'm never completely serious. I'm kind of surprised by your comment. At certain times of day, I'd be seriously worried about making my flight. I've stayed at hotels near the airport for exactly that reason. I'm sure some members are getting annoyed with this thread, so I will just say that early morning flights are the least of our worries.It doesn't matter if you actually miss flights. I've flown hundreds of times, and never missed one. Yet I have anxious dreams about getting on time to the airport.
At ISG, I'm never completely serious. I'm kind of surprised by your comment. At certain times of day, I'd be seriously worried about making my flight. I've stayed at hotels near the airport for exactly that reason. I'm sure some members are getting annoyed with this thread, so I will just say that early morning flights are the least of our worries.After living here for a while X Man, you just get a sense of when to go earlier and when there is no need to rush. Not only in Manila but also in Cebu, Davao and other centres.
Right now in Manila, for example, with an amazing wet season so far and incredible flooding, if I had a 9 pm flight I would be anxious about leaving for the airport by around 4 or 5 pm (seriously) because for the past Friday, Saturday and tonight (Monday) the roads have been impassable with flooding and gridlock.
There is no algorithm to follow in what time you should leave to get to the airport. Personally, I would rather err on the conservative side and wait at the airport and kill time with my E-Reader than cut it fine and then get really stressed by delays causing me to have to rush to the departure gate.
Right now in Manila, for example, with an amazing wet season so far and incredible flooding, if I had a 9 pm flight I would be anxious about leaving for the airport by around 4 or 5 pm (seriously) because for the past Friday, Saturday and tonight (Monday) the roads have been impassable with flooding and gridlock.True that. Due to widespread flooding and a fire near Kalayaan one of my girl's commutes tonight from MOA to the corner of Buendia and Malugay was more than two and one half hours, and she had to walk the last few blocks because the taxi ran out of petrol. Of course the weather does create opportunities; got an sms from a girl who gave up on doing her commute from Makati to Caloocan tonight so she's spending the night at my place.
If you are in Manila over the next few weeks, factor this into your trip to the airport.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/428241/rain-plunges-parts-of-metro-manila-into-traffic-chaos
Thanks for the extra info Gajith. I've had some great and some bad times with the MBC ilk.
As for sitting in bed or laying in bed, not sure what that was about. Giving orders is best for gals you've known a while. From your story, it sounds like you picked a bad one. But my advice is that no matter how outrageous someone complains or confronts you, always look for the sliver of truth. That makes you a better person. And I mean that in the Philippines and everywhere else you go.
As for the photo, it seems you have paid the model fee. I suggest you post the photo, but maybe tone down your criticism. Something like,"not recommended".Yeah I understand. Since I am not a native speaker of English, I always use 'please' if I ask something and I consider without please is rude.
If you are in Manila over the next few weeks, factor this into your trip to the airport.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/428241/rain-plunges-parts-of-metro-manila-into-traffic-chaosLucky me, departed Manila a day before the rain. Those people whose GF can't go home are lucky and those people's GF cancelled their meeting due to the climate are unlucky. Anyway rain creates a good mood; Enjoy your job Colleagues :P
If you are in Manila over the next few weeks, factor this into your trip to the airport.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/428241/rain-plunges-parts-of-metro-manila-into-traffic-chaosYup, the Manila based DIA contacts I regularly chat with keep mentioning the rain and floods around this time.
Apparently the roads in areas such as Intramuros and Ermita (my particular areas of interest for residing and punting in) are sometimes under water resulting resulting in traffic gridlock.
Hoping to schedule a trip in late August to avoid the worst.
So I finally got my paid membership here. I've seen it mentioned time & time again in this thread to reach out to senior members about traveling to Manila and trying to plan a good trip. Who'd be good to reach out to? My trips about 5 weeks away I am currently looking at the 18th of July to the 26th or so.By no means am I a senior member, but I have sent you a PM as to how I went about this as a newbie back in April.
Cheers and good luck
PussyFeelsGood
06-19-13, 00:13
So I finally got my paid membership here. I've seen it mentioned time & time again in this thread to reach out to senior members about traveling to Manila and trying to plan a good trip. Who'd be good to reach out to? My trips about 5 weeks away I am currently looking at the 18th of July to the 26th or so.Guys here make it sound much more difficult than it is, and there really is no reason to have any big plans because they will go out the window when you walk down the street and a pretty girl smiles at you.
Depending on your budget go to Burgos (most expensive) EDSA (middle ground) for bar girls or for freelancers go to Havana (most expensive) or Manila Bay cafe.
Or just meet a random girl as you are out doing random stuff during the day.
There are very few things easier than getting laid in the Philippines.
MangoBob68
06-19-13, 04:49
I will be the first to admit. I am not so "smooth" and bursting with confidence but by no means is it easy to just walk around malls and picking up girls. I have been coming off and on to the Phiippines since 1992. When in the mall.window shopping. Woman will not even look at you. Look right past you and if you make eye contact will not even smile at you.
I have met some ladies. Prearranged meeting at MOA for lunch or dinner + movie. Dinner on the backside of MOA. Outdoors with live musica. Very nice.
Not one date even hinted they wanted to return to my hotel in malate.
There is no slam dunk or automatic.
Even after lunch and offer to buy some foods for her to take home or buy some beauty products. Shampoo plus plus does she say. "oh you are so wonderful. I want to stay with you"
I have taken girls for nice dinners, movies, bowling, enjoy moon lite walk on the mall of asia ocean walk. Never had one say. I wish to stay with you.
They accept taxi or bus or jeepney fare to return home. Not saying please call me.
I treat them with respect. Not act nasty. I try to joke or get them to smile. Always polite. Not force anything.
I am not fat nor ugly nor balding. Yeah! I am over 60.
Yes, I know I can go "buy" a girl.
But listening to so many guys here. They talk of hooking up with 8's and 9's looking 18 to 25 year olds any time. All the time and pay nothing!
I just don't know how they do it! It had to be charisma and luck. They have the swagger!
Anyway for the new guys. Don't believe getting quality girls is as easy as some here point out.
How they have one girl in the morning then another at noon and two more before sunrise. Hard to believe.
There is no slam dunk or automatic.The non / semi-pro game is really a toss-up and you just have to play it by ear and cut your losses, cut her loose and move on, in case pussy is not delivered within your target time frame.
I keep hearing."you kanos take us filipinas for granted". OK, so maybe its better to pretend we are not. So I just try to take them, but not for granted.
Mongerer69
06-19-13, 09:47
Trust me if you are reasonably whitty and can carry a conversation, you will have NO problem in Manila hooking up with normal girls. They love us. Every time I walk through Robinsons or MOA or Greenbelt I leave with more than shopping bags. Like shooting fish in a barrel and I am 56 and no Robert Redford.
FreebieFan
06-19-13, 10:42
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There is no slam dunk or automatic.
Even after lunch and offer to buy some foods for her to take home or buy some beauty products. Shampoo plus plus does she say."oh you are so wonderful. I want to stay with you"
I have taken girls for nice dinners, movies, bowling, enjoy moon lite walk on the mall of asia ocean walk. Never had one say. I wish to stay with you.
They accept taxi or bus or jeepney fare to return home. Not saying please call me.
I treat them with respect. Not act nasty. I try to joke or get them to smile. Always polite. Not force anything.
I am not fat nor ugly nor balding. Yeah! I am over 60.
But listening to so many guys here. They talk of hooking up with 8's and 9's looking 18 to 25 year olds any time. All the time and pay nothing!
I just don't know how they do it! It had to be charisma and luck. They have the swagger!
Anyway for the new guys. Don't believe getting quality girls is as easy as some here point out.
How they have one girl in the morning then another at noon and two more before sunrise.I am one of those guys who does ocassionally have too many ladies than I should on some days when I'm visiting Manila. I'm mid 50's, and in reasonable shape and also not bald.
I think I have two things going for me that allows me to have multiple ladies in a day.
First I'm very familiar with Manila. I have lived there, have property there, know a fair amount of Tagalog, have been visiting since 1980s and theres nothing about me that screams "newbie". I know the place and these girls know I know the place. I think that gives them a sense of comfort.
Second as I've had many trips, and have accumulated many phone numbers and have met many ladies and treated them nicely, they are generally always up for a repeat. Or they are happy to introduce a new friend. My trips usually comprise some repeats and some new ones. Nice combo.
I don't know how to rate girls. Mine are all fun and friendly and my friends seem to think they all look pretty or sweet. But scores. I don't know how to rate them.
But they all seem happy to see me and always leave with a smile.
Last trip they were 18 (virgin) .21, 22, 19, 25, 23, 19 and a disaster with Ms 21.
I don't think I have "swagger" but I'm not shy about saying hi, and they all, always seem happy to go where I'm going, which is usually to the hotel room.
I have met some ladies. Prearranged meeting at MOA for lunch or dinner + movie. Dinner on the backside of MOA. Outdoors with live musica. Very nice.
Not one date even hinted they wanted to return to my hotel in malate.
There is no slam dunk or automatic.
I am not fat nor ugly nor balding. Yeah! I am over 60.I'm not your age so I haven't had your experience, but I know it'll come. Reading the others' replies I have hope for my sunset years.
Have you had numerous of these experiences or just a couple? If it's happening a lot. No offense m8, but you know the definition of insanity, yeah? You're repeating a losing gambit. Obviously you have enough game to get them to meet you, but closing the deal is the problem. In your pre-date communications are you just emphasizing all the treats that await her? Who doesn't like a visit from Santa? Do that shopping, if you must, after You seal the deal. Perhaps all that generosity strikes the girl as desperation. I personally don't know Freebiefan, but from the comments of his I've read I'm certain he has a lot of confidence. I bet ya he's a take charge kind of guy; not bossy, but he knows how to move things long to the desired outcome. I think you need to be more direct in stating what you expect. Go ahead and mention the dinners. Movies and the moonlit walks, but make sure she knows beforehand that she'll be going to your place afterwards and she agrees to it. This may reduce the number of meetings you have, but it'll also reduce the time wasting, the expense, and the frustration. You have nothing to lose by being direct and much to gain by spending your time productively. You didn't mention your desired age but I'll surmise it's like everyone else's. Sure 18 to 23-year old 10s are great, but I find 25+ 7s and 8s even better; I often meet women in their 30s, have met a few women in their 40s on occasion, and even a 50-year-old.
FreebieFan
06-19-13, 13:46
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Do that shopping, if you must, after You seal the deal. Perhaps all that generosity strikes the girl as desperation. I personally don't know Freebiefan, but from the comments of his I've read I'm certain he has a lot of confidence. I bet ya he's a take charge kind of guy; not bossy, but he knows how to move things long to the desired outcome. I think you need to be more direct in stating what you expect. Go ahead and mention the dinners. Movies and the moonlit walks, but make sure she knows beforehand that she'll be going to your place afterwards and she agrees to it. This may reduce the number of meetings you have, but it'll also reduce the time wasting, the expense, and the frustration. You have nothing to lose by being direct and much to gain by spending your time productively.I'm in total agreement with what Brother Hutsori has just stated, I find many Filipinas are very passive and are happy to be led.
They don't shout at people who jump queues / lines, they don't get upset when having to wait 2 hours to pay a Globe bill. They are passive.
I've often met girls, for first time in a mall, said hi, chit chat, then gone walking with them to my car and to my apartment. They've never said "why are we going in your car and where are we going". They just follow. You have to recognise you are in a different continent and different rules and a different approach apply.
Be confident, know what you want to do and don't let them dictate.
If they want to go shopping, tell them "after". Every Filipina knows what "after" means.
Then she has a choice. Goes with you and gets some shopping "after" or doesn't go, and then you haven't wasted your time.
Its not so much about being confident, more about being direct and showing that you have a clear idea of whats going to happen.
I was in Greenbelt on last Manila trip waiting for a gal. Theres a guy standing near me also clearly waiting.
His girl shows up, and they smile, introduce themselves and the guy says "shall we go for coffee". Girl happily agrees.
My gal arrives, I introduce myself, smile, and I motion we would exit GB and cross the road to my hotel. My gal also smiles.
2 hours later I walk past Starbucks in GB and the guy and his girl are still there talking and guys looking at his watch.
I think the analogy is clear.
Irony Monger
06-19-13, 16:58
Not one date even hinted they wanted to return to my hotel in malate.Did YOU hint? All you need to do is say something like "Hey, I want to show you something" or "I forgot something in my room". Any excuse to get them back there is fine. They know what's up, they just don't want to be the one who makes the move, and if you use some innocuous excuse they won't feel slutty even if they know they are going there to sleep with you anyway. Most girls like plausible deniability for their own subconscious.
Yes, I know I can go "buy" a girl.Sounds like what you were trying to do anyway, you were just buying her with gifts instead of cash. Don't get me wrong, it is ok to take her shopping, give her extra "taxi money", etc., but like others have said this is best done later rather than before. Make her work for her reward.
How they have one girl in the morning then another at noon and two more before sunrise. Hard to believe.Hard to believe? Sometimes it is hard to avoid LOL!
MangoBob68,
Rejection is part of the game, which is a numbers game.
As have been pointed out, you sometimes need to be a little firm with pinays, regardless how cute, sweet, whatever you percieve them. They actually often get wet from this. You're the guy, take control. Be macho. Macho has good connotations in a filipina's vocabulary. This is not cockblocking, femi-nazi owned territory. Yet.
The chocolates are in the hotel ref.
Mongerer69
06-19-13, 21:14
Most Filipinas I have had contact with say they would love to hang out at the pool (in the shade of course) in pre-meeting online chats, and when you invite them to go to the Hotel Pool they almost always reply in kind even though most can't swim. I usually tell them to meet me in Greenbelt at Starbucks and to bring their Bathing Suit. We walk across the street to The New World and obviously they have change into their swim suit in my room. Door closes. And game on! The perfect Filipina GFE. Works for me every time.
I will be the first to admit. I am not so "smooth" and bursting with confidence but by no means is it easy to just walk around malls and picking up girls. I have been coming off and on to the Phiippines since 1992. When in the mall. Window shopping. Woman will not even look at you. Look right past you and if you make eye contact will not even smile at you.
I have met some ladies. Prearranged meeting at MOA for lunch or dinner + movie. Dinner on the backside of MOA. Outdoors with live musica. Very nice.
Not one date even hinted they wanted to return to my hotel in malate.
There is no slam dunk or automatic.
Even after lunch and offer to buy some foods for her to take home or buy some beauty products. Shampoo plus plus does she say."oh you are so wonderful. I want to stay with you"
I have taken girls for nice dinners, movies, bowling, enjoy moon lite walk on the mall of asia ocean walk. Never had one say. I wish to stay with you.
They accept taxi or bus or jeepney fare to return home. Not saying please call me.
I treat them with respect. Not act nasty. I try to joke or get them to smile. Always polite. Not force anything.
I am not fat nor ugly nor balding. Yeah! I am over 60.
Yes, I know I can go "buy" a girl.
But listening to so many guys here. They talk of hooking up with 8's and 9's looking 18 to 25 year olds any time. All the time and pay nothing!
I just don't know how they do it! It had to be charisma and luck. They have the swagger!
Anyway for the new guys. Don't believe getting quality girls is as easy as some here point out.
How they have one girl in the morning then another at noon and two more before sunrise. Hard to believe.Sounds I also have the same illness here! If the senior Doctors are able to prescribe some medicines, I would love to buy it for me too :P.
When I was in Phil, I managed to meet couple of girls, I had a friendly good time with them but nothing happened at my bed. All the three girls interested to meet me were with their friend. We hugged, laughed took many photos in different poses, but I couldn't take it to the bed. I am a newbie here in DIA, but I am young at my 29. The gilrs said I have tantalizing eyes (first time I was hearing that fu*ing word BTW) and I may not look more than 25. Sounds interesting right? While listening to these words, and holding the fingers I was unable to apply enough passion because of the girl's companion. The only lesson learned is I can change my age to 25 in my DIA profile LOLz. I think, we have to be little naughty to get the things done in style but I am not super confident like many of the guys here. May be you guys could provide us tips to get the things done in the bed. Last night when I was at Cebu, the girls accompanied to my hotel but I was unable to bring them to my room.
Thanks / G
Ttriumph48
06-19-13, 22:44
Most Filipinas I have had contact with say they would love to hang out at the pool (in the shade of course) in pre-meeting online chats, and when you invite them to go to the Hotel Pool they almost always reply in kind even though most can't swim. I usually tell them to meet me in Greenbelt at Starbucks and to bring their Bathing Suit. We walk across the street to The New World and obviously they have change into their swim suit in my room. Door closes. And game on! The perfect Filipina GFE. Works for me every time.Thank you Master. Show us the way.
Member #4387
06-19-13, 23:03
Sounds I also have the same illness here! If the senior Doctors are able to prescribe some medicines, I would love to buy it for me too :P.
When I was in Phil, I managed to meet couple of girls, I had a friendly good time with them but nothing happened at my bed. All the three girls interested to meet me were with their friend. We hugged, laughed took many photos in different poses, but I couldn't take it to the bed. I am a newbie here in DIA, but I am young at my 29. The gilrs said I have tantalizing eyes (first time I was hearing that fu*ing word BTW) and I may not look more than 25. Sounds interesting right? While listening to these words, and holding the fingers I was unable to apply enough passion because of the girl's companion. The only lesson learned is I can change my age to 25 in my DIA profile LOLz. I think, we have to be little naughty to get the things done in style but I am not super confident like many of the guys here. May be you guys could provide us tips to get the things done in the bed. Last night when I was at Cebu, the girls accompanied to my hotel but I was unable to bring them to my room.
Thanks / GHard to say about the tips I can give you but many tips are allready in this thread. I am pretty much confident and are well travelled in Asia so I know it is my "job" as a man to take the lead. Never expect one pinay (aund atleast not the young ones) to come up with any suggestions whatsoever. So it is all lined up and infront of you.
I have no idea what kind of girls you try to meet. I like them a bit tall and slim. I am a "homey" guy so I prefer meeting the girls at my hotel. Staff bring them to my room or I come down to pick them up. I have been preflirting them through webcam before they come and for me chemistry chemistry is very important. Even if it is only a game I like both the girl and me to enjoy the session. I have a bottle of tequila in my room and a couple of shot from this makes all the shyness go away (as for the girls that is). No I don't get them drunk or anything. As long as we can have a bit chit chats and a few laughs session never failes. I can not remember through this setup I have been unhappy. Sex is great and girls are willing to treat themself with good time. Many of my encounters arrives without beeing promised anything but a drink and a good time. But I allways give them compensation of some sort. Since I hate shopping especially girlrelated items I end up putting a little sth in their purse. Never heard any complaints realy.
I have pretty much found one weakness in staying at the best places there is though and that is it can be rather tricky to get girls to leave. This combined with my rather soft heart as in I hate to be cynical and just throw a girl out have made some session rather very LT. From my last trip into Makati early this month what was intended to be a late Sunday night meeting for a quicky lasted until Tuesday morning.
My precise tip for you and others must be to be the boss (in a nice way) as in firm leadership, chemistrybuilding, jokes, tequila (hehe). This will get you there.
Nb! I agree with the pool comment. Many girls initially like the idea in dressing into a sexy bikini and sit in the shadow by the Ascott pool. Except from one girl 2 trips ago I have never used the pool with my dates. We end up only do inhouseactivities instead. The girls never ask more about the pool.
Over the years I have met many normal girls. All of them including one 18 year old gave me sex often many times. I have posted many pics and trip reports.
18 year old initially gave me coy, innocent comments saying she does not sleep with men. I told her if she feels that way she can leave. She asked me whether I am kicking her out. I said I am looking for fun on my vacation and not interested in playing games. She calmed down and later turned into tigress in bed till after two days she had the mens.
All the girls took off their clothes the moment they entered my hotel room. Some took a shower right away, while others wanted to cuddle for a while before going to shower.
It is hard for me to understand why all us mongers fall for the platonic shit and let the girl get away with no damage.
In my experience if the girl came to my room sex was natural. Of course some girls while texting say they are not interested in sleeping with me. I do not even bother to meet them irrespective of how good she looks.
Pip Jaeger
06-20-13, 00:02
And if you do take a girl shopping (afterwards of course) , make you set a clear "budget". The amount you set is up you, but don't set the bar too high or you'll ruin it for the rest of us, LOL. Or you can tell her you'll take her shopping after you're done, then tell her you're too tired, not feeling well, etc. Then stuff a blue note or two into her pocket / purse and tell her it's for her to go shopping or to buy some groceries for her family.
Tally Wacker
06-20-13, 00:07
Sounds I also have the same illness here! If the senior Doctors are able to prescribe some medicines, I would love to buy it for me too :P.
When I was in Phil, I managed to meet couple of girls, I had a friendly good time with them but nothing happened at my bed. All the three girls interested to meet me were with their friend. We hugged, laughed took many photos in different poses, but I couldn't take it to the bed. I am a newbie here in DIA, but I am young at my 29. The gilrs said I have tantalizing eyes (first time I was hearing that fu*ing word BTW) and I may not look more than 25. Sounds interesting right? While listening to these words, and holding the fingers I was unable to apply enough passion because of the girl's companion. The only lesson learned is I can change my age to 25 in my DIA profile LOLz. I think, we have to be little naughty to get the things done in style but I am not super confident like many of the guys here. May be you guys could provide us tips to get the things done in the bed. Last night when I was at Cebu, the girls accompanied to my hotel but I was unable to bring them to my room.
Thanks / GNo need to change your age but if you feel the need then call your self older instead of younger. Also, in your pre chats did you use the phrases "I'm a bit naughty is that ok?" or "if you like me when we meet are you open to having fun?". She may ask, what kind of fun? Naughty fun! But don't worry I'm always a gentleman. Then after we can go shopping at the mall or eat dinner. Other ways of getting girls to your room are asking them in pre chats what kind of chocolates they like and what is your bra and panty size because I would like to bring you a present. What girl does not like lingerie? Just buy inexpensive ones not Victoria Secret and they will be happy. I buy small gift bags that fit in my luggage and are not heavy then I put the lingerie and chocolates and maybe a small stuffed animal and put it on the bed. Might sound corny but it always works for me plus its inexpensive and I don't spend hours walking around the mall. I then suggest them to try their lingerie on and it usually ends with naughty fun and great photos. Oh, and if she suggests bringing a friend then tell her sure if she is open to having fun I can bring her a gift too.
Tally Wacker
06-20-13, 00:23
In my experience if the girl came to my room sex was natural. Of course some girls while texting say they are not interested in sleeping with me. I do not even bother to meet them irrespective of how good she looks.I guess the difference is the guys walking around the mall for hours with a girl and her friends but not getting sex after never confirmed previously in chat with the girl that they are looking for "fun" and expect the girl to come to their hotel room. If you use the right language and are polite and direct the girl will feel safe and understand fun means fucking.
And if you do take a girl shopping (afterwards of course) , make you set a clear "budget". The amount you set is up you, but don't set the bar too high or you'll ruin it for the rest of us, LOL. Or you can tell her you'll take her shopping after you're done, then tell her you're too tired, not feeling well, etc. Then stuff a blue note or two into her pocket / purse and tell her it's for her to go shopping or to buy some groceries for her family.PJ is absolutely right.
No guy in his right mind would ever go shopping with a woman. I could never do it with my wife either.
Just give her some cash and tell her to go and buy something for herself while you head off to the coffee shop for an hour. They will find the bargains if you are not around.
I recall a couple of years back in Ayala Mall in Cebu giving a girl 1000 php to go and buy what she wanted. She was excited and when we met again after 45 mins she had several bags of goodies. I suggested we walk back to the hotel and she could show me her purchases, and I was surprised how she had managed to buy jeans, shorts, underwear and some face lotion all for less than 1000 php. Of course, she thanked me in the appropriate manner, and she took all afternoon to show me her gratitude
Member #4643
06-20-13, 03:49
All the .girls interested to meet me. but I couldn't take it to the bed. I am a newbie here in DIA, but I am young at my 29. The gilrs said .I may not look more than 25. .The only lesson learned is I can change my age to 25 in my DIA profile LOLz. / GIf you want a nearly foolproof way to score with the girls, I would tell them that you are actually 34 ("but I look much younger").
I am in my 50s, and I have had little problem bedding 18-28 year olds in the Phils, the DR and Brazil. I have always found this to be amazing, as I am certainly not a beautiful older guy / Richard Gere look-alike. In particular, I have never failed to be surprised how often girls will tell me that they do not like young men. I interpret this comment to mean that young guys fuck them and then don't come through financially (even worse, leave them knocked up!).
In any case, IMHO, telling the girls you are actually an "older guy" will greatly improve your chances of getting the women into bed.
I just read this comment on a blog site about Manila.
I always wondered why Greenbelt, a "family" mall handled by the esteemed and prestigious Ayala group, turns a blind eye to the increasingly rampant and blatant prostitution occurring specifically around the Cafe Havana area in Greenbelt 3. Escorts and call women frolic about, sometimes even accompanied by their pimps who then proceed to loudly discuss the strategies or price points for the night. Imagine going out for a movie with your kids and having to walk through such a scene.
Security personnel are everywhere, and they clearly know about what's happening, but do nothing about it. I was in the ladies' restroom once, retouching my makeup, and the two Filipinas next to me proceeded to talk loudly about which foreigner they're planning to target that night. It's extremely distasteful, but give that Cafe Havana is Greenbelt's top earning establishment (or so I heard) , money takes the cake over morals and values. Tsk, Ayala."
If you want a nearly foolproof way to score with the girls, I would tell them that you are actually 34 ("but I look much younger").
I am in my 50s, and I have had little problem bedding 18-28 year olds in the Phils, the DR and Brazil. I have always found this to be amazing, as I am certainly not a beautiful older guy / Richard Gere look-alike. In particular, I have never failed to be surprised how often girls will tell me that they do not like young men. I interpret this comment to mean that young guys fuck them and then don't come through financially (even worse, leave them knocked up!).
In any case, IMHO, telling the girls you are actually an "older guy" will greatly improve your chances of getting the women into bed.Thanks! This is interesting. I know different country girls has different attitudes and in Phil seems like they are all behind money or try to secure their rest of the life by getting a foreigner. Even the 18 YO little girl expands her preferred partner age to 80 LOLz.
In this scenario, I think your advise may work here since most girls are open for a wide age range.
Tally Wacker
06-20-13, 04:49
Thanks! This is interesting. I know different country girls has different attitudes and in Phil seems like they are all behind money or try to secure their rest of the life by getting a foreigner. Even the 18 YO little girl expands her preferred partner age to 80 LOLz.
In this scenario, I think your advise may work here since most girls are open for a wide age range.You might want to work on the maturity part too.
You might want to work on the maturity part too.Yeah! I understand. But I am getting more matured by reading ISG everyday :P
FreebieFan
06-20-13, 05:01
PJ is absolutely right.
No guy in his right mind would ever go shopping with a woman. I could never do it with my wife either.Going shopping with a woman / wife. And yes I did try it once.
1. They have to touch everything. Is this some fabric test or just an " oh look at that, I think I will touch it " thing.
2. Trying things on. There are many ladies who happily try all sorts of things on, then freely admit they had no intention of ever buying it, just wanted to see how it looked on them.
3. The question we dread." Honey does this suit me". Before this question is asked the man should know to dissapear, to suddenly have an urgent cal / bowel movement or see a fly that needs squashing in the next store. The reason is its a lose / lose question.
If you answer "YES it suits you". You are likely to get the sneer and hear " my goodness, you don't know me at all do you ".
Or if you answer "No it doesn't" you will hear the "well I'm buying it anyway as my friend has one just like it and it suits her ".
In case you think this is all made up, sit and watch the guys who are in a shop with wife. They look like they are waiting for the world to end.
Or consider. Walk into a department store and look at the floor listings.
GF perfumes and jewellry.
1st floor. Bags, ladies shoes.
2nd floor ladies wear.
3rd floor other ladies wear.
4ht floor intimate ladies wear.
5th floor junior ladies wear.
6th floor childrens wear.
7th floor bedding.
8th floor suitcases.
9th floor mens wear.
Women like shopping shopping. We don't. As Rafa would say " FACT!"
MangoBob68
06-20-13, 05:43
I wish to thank Pute nut + Irony monger + freebie Fan + Hutsori for all your positive suggestions.
You gentlemen nailed it. Even with experience I am hesitant. Not take charge.need to be more firm. You all made good valid points.
I have wasted time and money. I liked the one. Where you met the girl and went to your hotel with smiles and the other guy still drinking coffee going no where.
As a retired teacher you fellows get all A+ for your mongering and I have to give myself C-
I will take your suggestions to heart on my next trip coming up this year. Sad not soon enough.
I usually chat girls in DIA or tagged or Cherryblossoms. Then set up meetings in manila + Cebu.
Yes, I need to be more direct. A leader. Not just stumble and wait for the girl to give me the opening.
After I wrote my report. I had second thoughts that the members would "beat me up" saying I am a loser BUT none of you did and gave me good advice.
I reread each report and made note. Be assertive is what I need to be.
Thanks!
PS. I look forward to reading more of your "adventures" I admire you all.
MangoBob68
06-20-13, 06:20
Tally Wacker + Skogis + Sammon. All make great points and suggestions "HOW TO GET THE BROWN SKIN FILIPINA CHICA BABE IN THE SACK- You all true mongering professionals!
Member #4387
06-20-13, 08:19
Tally Wacker + Skogis + Sammon. All make great points and suggestions "HOW TO GET THE BROWN SKIN FILIPINA CHICA BABE IN THE SACK- You all true mongering professionals!No no not professionals but I have found myself a mongerpath working quite nicely for me. Both in what kind of girls I like and how do I get to them. I was going through my latest phil trip material here the other day and I will say I have an 80/20 ratio. 80% girls from datingsites and 20% freelancegirls or normal girls I know from other sources. I have in 1 year plus both in Bangkok and Makati 1 go go girl from Spankys In BKK and 1 working girl from Asian Entertainment Pasig Manila that is all when it comes to barfines in my case.
And you can get realy solid help inside here atleast when you adress an issue like yourself. Then we want to help and guide you so you can recalibrate and maby put in some new angels, tips and ideas in your next mongering spree. If you pull the right strings and press the right buttons it is difficult to be left alone in phils. I mean you probably will if you walk around acting or looking like satan himself but you seem like a nice fellow so I guess you don't use "him" as a leading star.
And you also raise some questions I believe many people have raised themself at times. Especially when they were newbees in this mongerworld. And I am by far a veteran. I am only 40 and started heavy mongering 6 years ago. I have only 1 plus year exp from phils but I have in 1 year or so allready managed to visit this 3 world country 6 times so I am effective.
I have some experience from other sources tough as my gf back home is of half pinay breed and I have met numerous of pinay au-pairs back in my country. And while an au pairs reason for coming to my country is cultural exchange(bullshit as we all know they clean house and watch kids)anyway why not fuck them while they are visiting. Then they atleast also know this side of my countries culture. We live and learn my friend.
BrainDrain
06-20-13, 08:58
Did YOU hint? All you need to do is say something like "Hey, I want to show you something" or "I forgot something in my room". Any excuse to get them back there is fine. They know what's up, they just don't want to be the one who makes the move, and if you use some innocuous excuse they won't feel slutty even if they know they are going there to sleep with you anyway. Most girls like plausible deniability for their own subconscious.Actually I just realise this is part of my MO. Usually in the pre-trip chats I've mentioned something like "I'll bring you chocolates / perfume". Then when I meet them that is back in my room. They have no problems coming back to get it and then off comes there shoes at the door and things just happen.
They know that their is no extra Pesos and they know what the other girls say about meeting foreigners. They know what is going to happen.
Someone said that there is a need "to be firm." Certainly I hope that is not meant as a physical thing. Pinay are so sweet that they never need physical methods.
Any besides the girls we are meeting love sex.
Cheers
FreebieFan
06-20-13, 09:31
Most Filipinas I have had contact with say they would love to hang out at the pool (in the shade of course) in pre-meeting online chats, and when you invite them to go to the Hotel Pool they almost always reply in kind even though most can't swim. and to bring their Bathing Suit. We walk across the street to The New World and obviously they have change into their swim suit in my room. Door closes. And game on! The perfect Filipina GFE. Works for me every time.Funny. On last trip I met three that never had a swimsuit so each time we trooped over to Landmark to peruse the bikini section. The perusing didn't take long as I hovered by the p250 bikinis and said "wow. This really suits you".
We both knew the closest it was going to get to a pool was the view from the bedroom window but it was only a 15 minute detour from the room. And as you state, once in room. The rest is history.
The Landmark girls happily gave me that "werent you here earlier with another girl" look.
Trying things on. There are many ladies who happily try all sorts of things on, then freely admit they had no intention of ever buying it, just wanted to see how it looked on them.
In case you think this is all made up, sit and watch the guys who are in a shop with wife. They look like they are waiting for the world to end.Http://vimeo.com/66753575
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I have pretty much found one weakness in staying at the best places there is though and that is it can be rather tricky to get girls to leave. This combined with my rather soft heart as in I hate to be cynical and just throw a girl out have made some session rather very LT.
If the weekend it's "golf". Takes many hours and the girl can't come with you. On the weekdays it's work and business meetings. At night it's a poker game, bbq or sports night at a friend's house.
I wish to thank Pute nut + Irony monger + freebie Fan + Hutsori for all your positive suggestions.
You're welcome.
Someone said that there is a need "to be firm." Certainly I hope that is not meant as a physical thing. Pinay are so sweet that they never need physical methods.That would be me. It is certainly not intended to be a recommendation for physical coercion. Or even the psychological kind, e.g. making promises of sponsorship, LTR, marriage. Don't be wishy washy. I think Freebiefan's example best shows what I meant.
If she still won't sleep with you do what my momma always did to me when I was a stubborn lad: Threaten to sell her to the gypsies.
That would be me. It is certainly not intended to be a recommendation for physical coercion.Or me. I believe I made some recommendations to the same effect.
Of course if you cannot exercise your authority over a lady without getting physical you are a loser.
In addition to that, it is of course discouraged for many other reasons, such as local boyfriends or relatives in PNP (many have at least one, somewhere) who will gladly take you on. Don't do it.
Pip Jaeger
06-20-13, 14:59
The Landmark girls happily gave me that "werent you here earlier with another girl" look.Maybe you should've worn a T-shirt with "Coach, ISG University Swim Team" printed on it. Who knows, maybe you could have gotten one of them to join the "team", LOL.
Generally I avoid going shopping with girls unless she is a eye candy. Most often I give them money and let them go shopping by themselves and come back.
In Manila they go to street shops at Paranaque and in Cebu they go to Colon. They get cheap prices if they go alone rather than with me. Eye candies I take to nice mall to buy dresses and swim suits etc.
There is a trick to avoid girls using you and giving nothing in return. Never allow them to bring cousin, friend, relative to meet with you. In such cases they will be reserved and will never give sex. They consider it bad and loose face. Unless the other girl is willing to have sex with you. It has happened to me many times. I meet one girl and she brings her friend or cousin to stay together.
Do not entertain girls to go to lunch, dinner with their friends and relatives unless she has sex with you first. You are in Phi for a reason and that is to bed as many girls as possible. You are not there to innocent high school dating.
Do not be naive in thinking these girls are innocent fresh flowers. They have fun all the time. Most of these girls can act very well. Good thing is in Phi sex is natural for them. Where else 18-20 something girls will allow sex with 50-60-70 something guys? I am talking about non pros.
I do not believe in not compensating normal girls for their time and affection. Of course these girls sometimes do not ask for money but it is our duty to take care of them moneywise and if possible gift wise. Buy clothes she can use, buy shoes, bras, panties etc. I hate people who take advantage of these girls and behave like cheap Charlie.
FreebieFan
06-20-13, 15:57
It is not as easy as they make it out to be. As I pointed out in an earlier post Pseudologia fantastica is a trait of lot of men who engage in the hobby. I have challenged two gentlemen one a late 60s American and the other a late 50s Brit who claimed they were getting so much attention from non-pros to let me see them in action. The American blew a gasket and the Brit never got back with me.There are some folk here, with all their folksy wisdom who remind me of the Flat Earth Society.
They get a notion in their heads and theres nothing that can convince them otherwise.
These are the self same sadsacks who proclaimed the moon landing was made in a backlot.
I'd be happy to prove to you my comings and goings and comings but what would be the gain. You would still be a Flat Earther. So it doesn't matter.
And to be honest, I don't know you from Adam and have no interest in knowing you.
Keep spouting what you continue to believe. The Wisdom according to 50p ", because its the only crutch you have here.
Never a trip report, never anything of value, except varied versions of your last post.
Pseudologia Fantastica? Fifty pesos worth of Pratica Basura.
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