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Mtodd69
08-04-13, 19:09
I would like say hunting on Facebook has unique hunting qualities. You just need to make sure you don't post pictures together and then try to fuck one of her friends. Minor setback in one case, DIA and pay sites our ok to use but Facebook gives more information and you can see more pictures in several outfits and different events which is a plus. Keep in mind this for regular girls no the harded pro's! I prefer the regular girl who has an average job, they are so fuckable, which mean is they have to leave the next day for work and I do not need to provide exit plan for myself!

Just providing my hunting tactic!

LukeSkywalker
08-04-13, 20:35
It's the Mall of Asia

JPF
08-04-13, 20:50
The Seafood market near the New Asia Mall, sells live seafood, and there are a dozen restaurants that cook the seafood for you, but prices are very high, not recommended.I respectfully disagree. The fresh seafood restaurants near the Mall of Asia are very good quality, prepared how you like, and in a clean environment. Yes, the price is high but in my opinion so is the value for what you get. I recommend them.

Hutsori
08-04-13, 21:03
1, 200p Pensionne.

Cheap street food and mall food.

Cheap local beers.

Won't be too hard, especially if I take it easy every other night and just invite a girl over in place of going out to the big clubs.

Daily budget for food / fun is 40. So lets say I only spend 20 on down days, then I have 60 for date / club nights. Plenty for me.If you're looking to save a lot when going to the clubs hit those that have no cover charge, such as Insomnia or ZZYXZ in Malate. Instead of drinking in the club just exit, go the convenience store, have a drink, and head back.

Meals in a canteen are typically less than p100 and at a Filipino fast food place like Chic Boy you can get a meal with unlimited rice for less than p150.

I don't recall how many days you're planning to stay but if it's a month or more you'll save a lot by renting a condo rather than staying at a pension at p36000 per month, and you'll save even more if you cook at home. Check out craigslist or sulit. Even those who are looking for a 1-year tenant may be inclined to rent for shorter periods.

Fast Eddie 48
08-06-13, 23:51
Got to love a monger judging an others' lifestyle.To Psychman,

I just want to give the poor newbie some advice if you two want to jump off the Golden Gate bridge I not going to stop you.

Fast Eddie 48

Blu8096
08-07-13, 12:45
Here is 2 of my fav of the 6 from my last trip. First one great personality and loved the cock. The other one had a sick body and is the girl in the video I posted in my trip report.Holly crap man.

How did you get these hot pics with such awesome backgrounds? I thought you were staying in super cheap places in manila? Do you have real pics of the girls naked in your room, not standard looking pics. See my post in the photo gallery to help you out.

Blu8096
08-07-13, 12:49
I love the crappy places with grilled chicken and pork. You get awesome grilled meat with rice. But that's the issue, no vegetables.

I haven't crapped in three days! . LOL.

Blu8096
08-07-13, 12:56
Republic is awesome. A really hot place in resort worlds, super nice. Like being in any international city hot nightclub.

WAY to expensive. 250 for a jack and coke. They really need to reminded to put the jack in the coke!

Girls are hot! I picked up two hotties at the bar, partied and drank. I thought it was great till they decide to tell me they wanted to get paid 5, 000 each!

CRAZY ass girls. Because they put on a nice dress they think they should get so much money! I of course passed.

Anyways it is a awesome, clean, modern, hot place. Like all of the same types of places in different country's it is sooo pricey.

WestCoast1
08-07-13, 14:49
Girls are hot! I picked up two hotties at the bar, partied and drank. I thought it was great till they decide to tell me they wanted to get paid 5, 000 each!

CRAZY ass girls. Because they put on a nice dress they think they should get so much money! I of course passed.

Anyways it is a awesome, clean, modern, hot place. Like all of the same types of places in different country's it is sooo pricey.Some gents are fine paying that. That's about what you'd pay in a Burgos bar, or the EDSA complex in Malate.

Member #4387
08-07-13, 15:45
Republic is awesome. A really hot place in resort worlds, super nice. Like being in any international city hot nightclub.

WAY to expensive. 250 for a jack and coke. They really need to reminded to put the jack in the coke!

Girls are hot! I picked up two hotties at the bar, partied and drank. I thought it was great till they decide to tell me they wanted to get paid 5, 000 each!

CRAZY ass girls. Because they put on a nice dress they think they should get so much money! I of course passed.

Anyways it is a awesome, clean, modern, hot place. Like all of the same types of places in different country's it is sooo pricey.I can pretty much agree with you it is expensive to do the real clubbing experience but this goes all over the world. Every city have their own top noche places which pretty much can charge, within reason, what they like. This goes also for the Manila club scene. Girls met here should somewhat get rewarded, and they do, for leaving their common freelanceoutfit back home and realy dresses up. But ofcourse hi so nightclubs also attracts other kind of prostitutes / girls than we see in our most common pick up places. Here you have the girls looking for sugar daddies and the more hi so escort element of girls visit. Probably in no desperate need of change but if they get an oppertunity and they like you they will take it for the right price. To be honest 5K for a stunner at Republic sounds like a fair deal to me. I've heard of pick ups from Prive (very hi so club) ranging in the 10. 15k area. Everything LT ofcourse. I myself have never picked up from hi so night clubs in Manila only did cater regular girls here.

But even if pick ups can be made almost everywhere not only in phils the mentioned nightclubs and others are not typical places satisfying a die hard mongerer.

FLT09
08-07-13, 15:53
Hey guys,

I just read those last couple reports and saw WC making the comment about the price of Burgos and EDSA. I am trying to get an idea of how to budget out my trip and was wondering what a typical going rate would be for those GoGo bars I have been reading about on Burgos St.

Is 5k now the standard for a LT, or is that for the nicer bars on Burgos? I'm also not very familiar with bar fines, I understand what they are, just never been in a place that had them. Are places on Burgos all inclusive with their bar fine, or separate tip for girl later?

FLT.

WestCoast1
08-08-13, 01:14
Hey guys,

I just read those last couple reports and saw WC making the comment about the price of Burgos and EDSA. I am trying to get an idea of how to budget out my trip and was wondering what a typical going rate would be for those GoGo bars I have been reading about on Burgos St.

Is 5k now the standard for a LT, or is that for the nicer bars on Burgos? I'm also not very familiar with bar fines, I understand what they are, just never been in a place that had them. Are places on Burgos all inclusive with their bar fine, or separate tip for girl later?

FLT.Burgos and EDSA bars will typically charge 2-3000 ($50-75usd) for the barfine. The girl will usually not agree to go with you until you agree on her tip price (negotiable) before she leaves the bar. She will want 1500-3000 tip in the morning. On the low end, two years ago I got a girl from Wild West bar on the Makati Ave end of Burgos; the barfine at that time I think was 16 or 1800, and the girl the mamasan was pushing was brand new, second night in the bar, first customer. She asked 1500 for herself, and then accepted when I said 1000. However the other bars cost about 2x that much overall. All of this is in stark contrast to the girls walking along Burgos street (massage girls and freelancers) , who will ST with you for much, much less.

This is very different than freelance places like Havana Cafe in Makati, and Manila Bay and G-Point in Malate. There is no barine. You agree in the bar for a set price for either ST or LT. 1500-2000 is typical ST, add 1000 for LT.

Regarding Havana Cafe in Makati. A month ago on a Saturday night, I arrived there about 11:30pm. The inside was jumping with live band and dancing. I walked in, perused a minute, it was crowded and I walked out. All the tables were occupied, in fact I didn't see an empty chair. I also had not drawn any stares from any ladys. There were no tables with ladies only. I decided to take my time, and I walked up one row of tables, then down another. Up and down, slowly walking between tables. Nobody bothered to glance or look. These all appeared to be locals out for drinks. I walked past the Starbucks and continued on towards the mall proper, but all the benches that used to be there on the left filled with FL appeared to be gone. Just an impression: the old days of HC are gone?

FLT09
08-08-13, 02:14
Burgos and EDSA bars will typically charge 2-3000 ($50-75usd) for the barfine. The girl will usually not agree to go with you until you agree on her tip price (negotiable) before she leaves the bar. She will want 1500-3000 tip in the morning.Thanks for the info, gives me a good idea of what to budget for.

FLT.

Member #4643
08-08-13, 02:45
Regarding Havana Cafe in Makati. A month ago on a Saturday night, I arrived there about 11:30pm. The inside was jumping with live band and dancing. I walked in, perused a minute, it was crowded and I walked out. All the tables were occupied, in fact I didn't see an empty chair. I also had not drawn any stares from any ladys. There were no tables with ladies only. I decided to take my time, and I walked up one row of tables, then down another. Up and down, slowly walking between tables. Nobody bothered to glance or look. These all appeared to be locals out for drinks. I walked past the Starbucks and continued on towards the mall proper, but all the benches that used to be there on the left filled with FL appeared to be gone. Just an impression: the old days of HC are gone?I was there in October 2012. The HC was teeming with freelancers (as well as an large number of ladyboys).

I do not know what the "old days" were, but the HC is almost certainly still a good place to pick up a freelancer pro or semi-pro.

Westcoast1 is an experienced mongerer in the Philippines. Sometimes, finding a girl seems to be stochastic. But, overall, I would be surprised if a newbie couldn't do better than he did on that night at the HC.

Member #4387
08-08-13, 03:03
I was there in October 2012. The HC was teeming with freelancers (as well as an large number of ladyboys).

I do not know what the "old days" were, but the HC is almost certainly still a good place to pick up a freelancer pro or semi-pro.

Westcoast1 is an experienced mongerer in the Philippines. Sometimes, finding a girl seems to be stochastic. But, overall, I would be surprised if a newbie couldn't do better than he did on that night at the HC.I was in and around Havana with a mongerfriend last Tuesday in July. Even if that is not the biggest day for going out there were still a lot of eyeballing from the ladies both inside and outside (tablearea) Havana. It was not packed but a decent crowd of spinners. Did not take up any action from Havana though ex one double black label from the bar. We headed for Spicey Fingers close by instead as this was our initial goal for the night. Allways important to stick to plan, hehe. From there we did take out (both places live music) of fl girls. Mine proved to be crazy but that is another matter. So all in all bad decissionmaking from me not pick from Havana instead. But atleast mentioned Tuesday good girliecrowd. Have no idea how it was in the "good old days" but from my point of view (from less than 2 yrs exp from Manila) Havana and Spicey Finger is ok pick up joints.

WestCoast1
08-08-13, 05:23
I was there in October 2012. The HC was teeming with freelancers (as well as an large number of ladyboys).

I do not know what the "old days" were, but the HC is almost certainly still a good place to pick up a freelancer pro or semi-pro.

Westcoast1 is an experienced mongerer in the Philippines. Sometimes, finding a girl seems to be stochastic. But, overall, I would be surprised if a newbie couldn't do better than he did on that night at the HC.Forest thanks. I was there previously in June 2012. It was much the same scene as you described, with plenty of FL out in the open and easy to spot. But not last month. Anyone else there with current boots on the ground care to report?

Docwiltro
08-08-13, 09:31
Republic is awesome. A really hot place in resort worlds, super nice. Like being in any international city hot nightclub.

WAY to expensive. 250 for a jack and coke. They really need to reminded to put the jack in the coke!

Girls are hot! I picked up two hotties at the bar, partied and drank. I thought it was great till they decide to tell me they wanted to get paid 5, 000 each!

CRAZY ass girls. Because they put on a nice dress they think they should get so much money! I of course passed.

Anyways it is a awesome, clean, modern, hot place. Like all of the same types of places in different country's it is sooo pricey.Maybe you've seen my Makati regular and her bfff; they regularly party at Republiq.

Blu8096
08-08-13, 14:34
Some gents are fine paying that. That's about what you'd pay in a Burgos bar, or the EDSA complex in Malate.I guess after thinking about it you guys are right. It is actually cheaper than burgous if you add up tip and bar fine. At the moment it seemed steep- plus the cost of the drinks were a *****. I will hit Insomnia and give it a try. I will not spend so much on drinks this time. I guess I was hoping to bag one for free but it dint go my way that night.

No they were not the same as the pic you attached. But those two would have been fun.

Blu8096
08-08-13, 14:49
I was in and around Havana with a mongerfriend last Tuesday in July. Even if that is not the biggest day for going out there were still a lot of eyeballing from the ladies both inside and outside (tablearea) Havana. It was not packed but a decent crowd of spinners. Did not take up any action from Havana though ex one double black label from the bar. We headed for Spicey Fingers close by instead as this was our initial goal for the night. Allways important to stick to plan, hehe. From there we did take out (both places live music) of fl girls. Mine proved to be crazy but that is another matter. So all in all bad decissionmaking from me not pick from Havana instead. But atleast mentioned Tuesday good girliecrowd. Have no idea how it was in the "good old days" but from my point of view (from less than 2 yrs exp from Manila) Havana and Spicey Finger is ok pick up joints.I really like both. It is great to go to Havana to smoke a Cuban and drink some blue label. Then you can relax and check out the fL, it is a great place to relax and enjoy.

Spicy fingers is awesome to bring a DIA girl for meet. The happy hour has P50 mixers and some nice appetizers- I like the sushi. You can easily have a great chat and get her a little tipsy. Next on the way to the hotel to bang it out.

LukeSkywalker
08-08-13, 18:26
I don't mean to offend anyone. I am only trying to bring more info into this subject

Perhaps the live seafood market and the cook-for-hire restaurants near the mall of Asia are competitive by local standards. But the offered varieties are limited and very expensive, like 3x live sea food prices in California. In addition you would have to pay the restaurants fees to cook the food for you. These restaurants are just plain eating rooms with flat bright fluorescent lights and no decor, nothing resembling fine dining. There were not too many clients the night I was there.

Given that the Phil is a bunch of islands with great access to the Pacific, the small available varieties and extremely high prices of live seafood just do not make sense. Something is not working right in this market.

Compared that to the myriads of live seafood restaurants in most cities in China with abundant availabilities of all kinds of live, fresh, tasty, exotic sea foods all day all night, expertly cooked and exquisitely presented and served in elegant restaurants for prices about half to one third prices in California.

Check out a few images of the Tairyo teppanyaki steak and seafood chain in major cities in China. Dinner for about $15, the Tairyo offers all you can eat and drink all night from a menu of hundreds items of meats, sea foods, vegetables, beers, wines, sakes, juices, deserts etc. Elegantly cooked fresh and served on teppanyaki tables in front of you:

https://www.google.com/search?q=tairyo+teppanyaki&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS524US524&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=NtUDUpKtHMGViQKvsIHYDQ&ved=0CGsQsAQ&biw=1280&bih=899

Got to admit, the young girls and the food in China are abundant, very delicious and cheap in global comparison. it's very nice to have beautiful girls and good food in the same location withotu breaking the banks. I recommend the bros to try this teppanyaki restaurant if you visit any major cities in China.

Now China is bringing her massive Navy to take over the islands and fishing waters surrounding the Phil, so the economic imbalance between China and her neighbors will become worse.

Please don't be offended of this info. It's only an impassioned presentation of my interesting travel experiences.


I respectfully disagree. The fresh seafood restaurants near the Mall of Asia are very good quality, prepared how you like, and in a clean environment. Yes, the price is high but in my opinion so is the value for what you get. I recommend them.

Pip Jaeger
08-08-13, 21:21
given that the phil is a bunch of islands with great access to the pacific, the small available varieties and extremely high prices of live seafood just do not make sense. something is not working right in this market.perhaps that's true in the manila area, but as i've noticed many things are more expensive in the metro-manila area. and i'm not sure i 'd want to eat fresh fish caught in the bay anyhow.

on the other hand, in some of the other areas fresh fish is readily available and quite reasonable. in the apu market in ac i bought fresh mackerel (whole) for 90p per kilo, brown spotted grouper (whole, but the fish monger filleted for it for me) for 115p per kilo. ; i prepared both in the condo i was staying in. in cebu i bought a variety of fresh fish for even less at the carbon market and from a local vendor in the area i was staying (marlin and sailfish were a bit more. about 250p per kilo; still a bargain in my book). again i prepared it myself at my condo.

one day about lunchtime in malapascua my gf were sitting on the porch of our room sipping mango shakes and watching some kids play on the beach. a native lady walking by our room had a basket on her head with a load of fresh fish. she offered to grill any one we wished for 400p. we selected a fresh "maya-maya" (red snapper; though on closer inspection in may have been a yellowlip as it was more orange in color with yellowish lips, but taste is the same) that weighed about 2. 5 kilo's. about 40 minutes later she returned with the fish along with a large portion of rice and some "sinamak" (spiced vinegar). the fish was wrapped in banana leaves and when she unwrapped it looked like something that had ventured into hell; it had been grilled with the scales on, was black as coal and with scales peeing off it resembled the space shuttle after re-entry into the atmosphere, lol. the fish had been gutted, stuffed with some sliced kalamansi (key limes) , rubbed with palm oil and then just plunked down on the grill. looked horrible, but once we cracked it open we found it to be cooked perfectly and it tasted excellent!

photo from the sm market in ayala mall; yes, that's parrot fish in the foreground for just 224p per kilo (and remember, that's at a retail grocery store) and spotted grouper to the left of it; if i recall correctly that was also about 200 - 225p per kg:

LukeSkywalker
08-08-13, 22:20
i just know there would be a few bros in this thread who would be totally immersed in fine dining, as well as dining at the y, and hot sex with hot sexy young girls. hehe.

i took a young and very good-looking girl to dinner at a large seafood restaurant 1 street east of marbini in ermita. 1 block west of the robinson mall. the place was large but dark and depressing. there was only 1 other party with us there at 8pm. everything including the rice was sold by the 100 grams. i remember its was very expensive and the food was not that fresh or good.

the young girl's name was blanca from 1 of the fish bowls in makati. she speaks perfect english and is one of the prettiest and nicest young girls in asia. she's a light-skinned spanish descendant. perhaps some of you may know her. she did not eat too much food and did not drink the beers. the other party was staring at this very pretty young girl the whole time which was annoying.

we got out of that depressing restaurant as soon as i finished eating and quickly got back to room in the questionable 10-star (?) riviera mansion on marbini. she was very beautiful with her pretty face, spinner body, soft, smooth skin, round natural boobs and long legs. i was embracing her sexy body, kissing, licking, sucking, driving my dick into that sweet, pretty girl all night. i have the tel of that fish bowl saved and will try to find blanca again when i am back in manila.

would like to find good restaurants in the ermita, malate areas, preferably teppanyaki buffets like the daireyu in china.


perhaps that's true in the manila area, but as i've noticed many things are more expensive in the metro-manila area. and i'm not sure i 'd want to eat fresh fish caught in the bay anyhow.

on the other hand, in some of the other areas fresh fish is readily available and quite reasonable. in the apu market in ac i bought fresh mackerel (whole) for 90p per kilo, brown spotted grouper (whole, but the fish monger filleted for it for me) for 115p per kilo. ; i prepared both in the condo i was staying in. in cebu i bought a variety of fresh fish for even less at the carbon market and from a local vendor in the area i was staying (marlin and sailfish were a bit more. about 250p per kilo; still a bargain in my book). again i prepared it myself at my condo.

one day about lunchtime in malapascua my gf were sitting on the porch of our room sipping mango shakes and watching some kids play on the beach. a native lady walking by our room had a basket on her head with a load of fresh fish. she offered to grill any one we wished for 400p. we selected a fresh "maya-maya" (red snapper; though on closer inspection in may have been a yellowlip as it was more orange in color with yellowish lips, but taste is the same) that weighed about 2. 5 kilo's. about 40 minutes later she returned with the fish along with a large portion of rice and some "sinamak" (spiced vinegar). the fish was wrapped in banana leaves and when she unwrapped it looked like something that had ventured into hell; it had been grilled with the scales on, was black as coal and with scales peeing off it resembled the space shuttle after re-entry into the atmosphere, lol. the fish had been gutted, stuffed with some sliced kalamansi (key limes) , rubbed with palm oil and then just plunked down on the grill. looked horrible, but once we cracked it open we found it to be cooked perfectly and it tasted excellent!

photo from the sm market in ayala mall; yes, that's parrot fish in the foreground for just 224p per kilo (and remember, that's at a retail grocery store) and spotted grouper to the left of it; if i recall correctly that was also about 200. 225p per kg:

Cool Traveler
08-08-13, 23:04
I have been to both many times. And every single time, there has always been pros and fl's. There are some girls who are there regularly. Some I see have been going there for about 5 to 10 years. Havana has been one of the best pick up locations for me. And that too, with excellent results. My first threesomes and foursomes was from Havana. My first backdoor was also from Havana.

It is especially great when you are staying at the New World Hotel. A long walk with a hard on that is trying to grow bigger is "hard". So, the short walk to New World is a bonus.

Pointers to Havana visitors:

It gets filled up. Early on, you will see it get filled up with families and workers getting out of work. But it starts emptying out by about 9PM. It then starts picking back up, around 10PM. Tables will all be taken by 11PM. By 12PM, you will see couples moving off to their rooms etc. If you get there and there are no tables, there is another restaurant right next to it. It is a Spanish Restaurant. Just can't remember the name. They have 2 for 1 beer most nights. If you come early, like 10PM, sit there and have your 2 for 1 beer. You can do your sight seeing from there. The girls will observe you and will try to make eye contact. If you smile back, and they think you are game, they will move closer to you. Usually they will come sit at the Seattle's Best Coffee, closest to the Spanish Restaurant table. If anyone can remember the name, put it up here. It is the one next to Seattle's Best Coffee. It feeds off the crowd coming into Havana.

The girls are plenty. After 12PM, walk into Havana. Sit at the bar, or stand there. You will get a table, and you will be hit numerous times by all the girls walking in and out, to the bathroom. Make your pick. The later you pick, the better the price. They do want to go sleep in a nice room.

But for those who say, Havana was a lost cause, you probably are very shy. If you are shy, this is going to be very tough for you, anywhere you go. Next time you cannot find a table, catch one of the waiter and ask for a table. They have always accommodated me. The waiters also know me pretty well. They remember regular customers and are sometimes protective of you. When a ladyboy approached me once, the security guy quickly came and talked the he-she away.

I am glad I don't live there. I would be broke by now.

CT.


I was there in October 2012. The HC was teeming with freelancers (as well as an large number of ladyboys).

I do not know what the "old days" were, but the HC is almost certainly still a good place to pick up a freelancer pro or semi-pro.

Westcoast1 is an experienced mongerer in the Philippines. Sometimes, finding a girl seems to be stochastic. But, overall, I would be surprised if a newbie couldn't do better than he did on that night at the HC.
I really like both. It is great to go to Havana to smoke a Cuban and drink some blue label. Then you can relax and check out the fL, it is a great place to relax and enjoy.

Spicy fingers is awesome to bring a DIA girl for meet. The happy hour has P50 mixers and some nice appetizers- I like the sushi. You can easily have a great chat and get her a little tipsy. Next on the way to the hotel to bang it out.

Hutsori
08-09-13, 04:10
If you get there and there are no tables, there is another restaurant right next to it. It is a Spanish Restaurant. Just can't remember the name. They have 2 for 1 beer most nights. If you come early, like 10PM, sit there and have your 2 for 1 beer. You can do your sight seeing from there.Cerveseria. Actually Cafe Breton is right beside Havana, then a GB3 entrance, and then Cerveseria.

Blu8096
08-09-13, 13:50
I have been here in Malate for over two weeks now. So far here is my impression.

Dirty as SHIT!

Street kids and people living on the sidewalks, pissing wherever they like. Some little boy street kids running around naked all the time. Beggars everywhere.

Just all around dirty and nasty. I have walked all over the place, to and from MBC and whatever. No issues for me at all, I never felt unsafe, but it is just dirty and nasty.

MBC and Cowboy are walking distance but I would rather stay far away and take a cab. Robinson is across the street and I like the mall. But it is NOTHING compared to the Makati megaexperience at greenbelt and the other malls all connected. I have a great place on the 43rd floor with a killer view of the bay. But it just is not worth it.

In my opinion Malate is "WAY TO FUCKING BULLSHIT DIRTY!" I will not stay here again. Not worried about my safety so far but it is just nasty here. But, if you like pissing in public on the street whenever you want to and where ever you want to, beggars from toddlers to toothless grannies, and the smell of fresh garbage and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) this is the place to be.

FUCK MALATE. Stay in Makati every time.

Wicked Roger
08-09-13, 14:46
I have been here in Malate for over two weeks now. So far here is my impression.

Dirty as SHIT!

In my opinion Malate is "WAY TO FUCKING BULLSHIT DIRTY!".

FUCK MALATE. Stay in Makati every time.Welcome to Manila Blu. Now Malate is not my cup of tea and is why I like Makati but if you think Malate is that go into the provinces and see the real poverty and dirt.

Or go to India which IMHO is worse on the real poverty / dirt scale than what you have ever seen so far.

This is why I avoid Malate etc at all costs and never go MBC preferring my regulars or a visit to Havana Café instead.

Otesq1
08-09-13, 16:38
I am interested in visiting here because I like the Soapy Massages in Bangkok. I cannot determine the total cost of a Full Service Soapy Massage. I understand you need to pay the bar fine and for the room; but do you also have to pay the girl directly? If so, how much?

If you take a girl from Air Force One into Flight 168, is she going to be experienced in a Soapy Massage, or should you stick to the ones from Flight 168? I apologize if this has been addressed already, but my search of the forum did not give me a clear answer.

Member #4387
08-09-13, 17:03
Welcome to Manila Blu. Now Malate is not my cup of tea and is why I like Makati but if you think Malate is that go into the provinces and see the real poverty and dirt.

Or go to India which IMHO is worse on the real poverty / dirt scale than what you have ever seen so far.

This is why I avoid Malate etc at all costs and never go MBC preferring my regulars or a visit to Havana Café instead.Word! I started my Manila spree in Malate and stayed around Robinson mall a couple of times. But after I did find Makati and its lux and clean / safe surroundings (I talk stricktly about Greenbelt area the Glorietta / Ayala malls and the nightspots as I don't wander outside here) Malate is dead to me. I did not encounter any trouble whatsoever and allways felt safe in the dodgy streets of Eremita / Malate. It has its charm by all means. Makati and The Fort play in a totaly different leauge though with a much higher level of comfort and zero beggars (where I go). Some girls I met during my first trips where a bit reluctant even to meet up in Malate as even they thought it was a nasty area.

PeeMan
08-09-13, 18:54
burgos and edsa bars will typically charge 2-3000 ($50-75usd) for the barfine. the girl will usually not agree to go with you until you agree on her tip price (negotiable) before she leaves the bar. she will want 1500-3000 tip in the morning.thats what i was quoted on my visit to edsa. they wanted 3k barfine + extra 1. 5.2k tip for the gal. i thought i was being conned because i wore a nice new shirt and looked loaded.

at havana i didn't find any women worth my money. i was there around 8 pm to 10. when i was leaving people were dancing salsa inside and the one classy looking gal i struck up a conversation with wanted 6k for the night. i decided to head back to mbc for the 2nd consequtive night instead.


got to admit, the young girls and the food in china are abundant, very delicious and cheap in global comparison. it's very nice to have beautiful girls and good food in the same location withotu breaking the banks. i recommend the bros to try this teppanyaki restaurant if you visit any major cities in china.you mean finding gals to sleep with is as easy as in the phil? now i want to go there too. .

-peeman

Redman69
08-09-13, 19:26
even is hard to get the girls to come there because of the baggers and how dirty it is.

could swear it was here that someone said he did not see 20 total in two weeks in malate. yea, the [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) smell is strong. the hungry naked poor kids are depressing, the street people tried to snach my old ladys jewelry and pick my pocket. everything you say blu is true. yet i am a union electrician, get dirty at work. and have had to travel and live in whatever and shower with a bucket. so i see the workers surviving, the kids taking care of the infants. i have feed many who only eat the small half and save the other for their sister, brother mother. i did take the train thru makiati just to have been there. even the train feels different there in makati. i would live there for sure if i lived in manila. but when it is time to hunt. malate and ermita is my kind of place.

the only thing i miss is the ammonia smell from where they are mopping up the cum. in malate they do not mop it up. we all have to make sacrifices when we go hunting in the slums.

LukeSkywalker
08-09-13, 20:38
What would be convenient places to stay for mongering in Makati.

Python75
08-10-13, 00:23
What would be convenient places to stay for mongering in Makati.My favourite hotels were St. Giles, City Garden, and Antel Spa Residence all within a 3 to 5 minute walk to Burgos Street where the girlie bars are. However on my trips I only ever actually bar fined one girl and now use the girly bars there as plan C or plan D if my dates are a no show. I prefer to stay at the E-Hotel next to Greenbelt One as I meet my dates at Greenbelt and prefer to be able to walk to the hotel. It is also a 10 minutes walk to Havana Cafe area, and a 5 to 10 minute taxi ride to Burgos St.

As some members have an issue with the walk of shame, or walk of win as I prefer to call it, then E-Hotel might not be for you as you have to walk through the dining hall with reception on the left and all the staff can see you. But they just smile at me knowingly.

MangoBob68
08-10-13, 00:52
Hello gentlemen,

I'm not so an active hunter as most here but I want to say a few good things about one part of malate. The Ocampo / Harrison street with Orchid Garden suites hotel and across from that is the Harrison shopping mall where on can find free lancers. I rate them scale 6 to 7 max.

The hotel has an ok swimming pool + rooms are good + breakfast buffet. Excellent. Price from 2200 to 2500.

The other main reason I pick this area is 5 to 10min by taxi from mall of asia where I meet my dates.

It is only 20 min from international airport.

I have walked the street toward the US embassy from Harrison mall and found some nice cafes, bakery shops and small hotels. Not the crap you found in that other half of malate.

Yes, I see the beggers and yes sometimes the kids approach me. It is all part of the experience.

I just wanted others to know that NOT ALL of malate is Crap + yes I agree with your observations in the areas you were talking of.

I agree what you say of Makati but too crowded and too long of a taxi ride for me.

I should mention. I only stay in the malate area for 2 days at most before heading to the vasayans. Malate is my arrival and departure hub.

I have been coming to the Philippines on and off for the past 20 years. I should take the effort to go visit Havana café and sticky fingers.

I confess. I am too much of a loner, shy and not good at trying new things. I know Iam missing out. I need to be braver.

You gentlemen have inspired me when you say you got your first 3 and 4some at Havana. I want that experience.

WestCoast1
08-10-13, 05:58
I have been here in Malate for over two weeks now. So far here is my impression.

Dirty as SHIT!Yes!


Street kids and people living on the sidewalks, pissing wherever they like. Some little boy street kids running around naked all the time. Beggars everywhere.

Just all around dirty and nasty.Yes!


I have a great place on the 43rd floor with a killer view of the bay. But it just is not worth it.Yes it is!


In my opinion Malate is "WAY TO FUCKING BULLSHIT DIRTY!" I will not stay here again. Not worried about my safety so far but it is just nasty here. But, if you like pissing in public on the street whenever you want to and where ever you want to, beggars from toddlers to toothless grannies, and the smell of fresh garbage and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) this is the place to be.Blu, you're givin' me a stiffie!


FUCK MALATE. Stay in Makati every time.More girls for me!

(I like Cebu/Colon, too!)

Hutsori
08-10-13, 08:57
... toothless grannies...Awesome blowjobs.

Ekspat
08-10-13, 09:00
But after I did find Makati and its lux and clean / safe surroundings (I talk stricktly about Greenbelt area the Glorietta / Ayala malls and the nightspots as I don't wander outside here) Malate is dead to me.Fully agree, I haven't been to Malate for years and no intention to visit again. On trips to Manila I get hardly out of Makati and if, I have a look to Ortigas or so.

Pete Benetar
08-10-13, 19:13
Awesome blowjobs.Quip of the Day.

WestCoast1
08-10-13, 20:22
Awesome blowjobs.Hahaha.


Fully agree, I haven't been to Malate for years and no intention to visit again. On trips to Manila I get hardly out of Makati and if, I have a look to Ortigas or so.You gents who don't like Malate/Ermita stay outta there. More dropped panties for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

LukeSkywalker
08-10-13, 23:51
The Orchid Gardens looks fairly nice and clean. The St Giles looks like a bigger, more modern hotel on the night life area for about the same price, definitely worth trying.

In comparison the Riviera Mansion and its sister hotel in Malate/Ermita would look old, basic and well-worn, but it's within walking distance of the Manila Bay Cafe and Robinson Mall.

http://www.hotels.com/ho433698/orchid-garden-suites-manila-manila-philippines/

Burgos gogo bars look good with many good-looking girls. ST bar fine of 1500. 2000 pesos plus tips are slightly higher than the freelancers at MBC. I had a very sexy and good-looking young girl from MBC for 3000 pesos all day 24 hours. She was so new she had to ask the other old, dumb and ugly girls how much to charge. I also had a very pretty young girls from a fish bow in Makati all night for 4000 pesos.

http://burgosstreet.com/

This site has a video of the girls at the Airforce One in EDSA strutting their stuffs on the runway. They definitely look better and more cosmopolitan than the girls in Angeles city who are much cruder in beauty and manners.

I was in a taxi on Roxas Blvd in Makati North of the Mall of Asia with this sweet girl, trying to find a decent restaurant or quiet bar to have a few drinks and chill, but most of those fancy places had been closed down. Looks like business is dead in that area. Will stay near P Burgos and explore next time.

I would never waste time in Angeles City dueling with crude, ugly, rude, peasant girls with mercenary attitudes.


Hello gentlemen,

A few good things about one part of malate. The Ocampo / Harrison street with Orchid Garden suites hotel and across from that is the Harrison shopping mall where on can find free lancers. I rate them scale 6 to 7 max.

The hotel has an ok swimming pool + rooms are good + breakfast buffet. Excellent. Price from 2200 to 2500.

The other main reason I pick this area is 5 to 10min by taxi from mall of asia where I meet my dates.

I agree what you say of Makati but too crowded and too long of a taxi ride for me.

I hat experience.

CaliPro
08-11-13, 07:01
Trying to decide between getting an apartment in Malate or Makati for 3 weeks.

Will spend most my time in Malate. However the apartment in Makati is much nicer. I am trying to keep costs down on traveling though.

Is there a jeepney that goes from Makati to Malate? When do they stop running at night?

How much is a taxi to Malate from Makati? Like 350p?

LukeSkywalker
08-11-13, 18:36
Pics of the seafood market at night and the Chinese / Phil restaurants that will cook the fish for a fee.

The face belongs to a MBC girl who spent a couple days with me in and out of bed. Hehe.

Sorry no nude pics.


The Seafood market near the New Asia Mall, sells live seafood, and there are a dozen restaurants that cook the seafood for you, but prices are very high, not recommended.

The girl is a daughter of a fisherman on some remote island. She gave me the name but I did not recognize. She went to Manila for college and ran out of money. She speaks excellent English, was a very good tour guide and sex partner in bed. I was having sex bareback with her after the first day, the very few times I did with pro girls.

I just clicked with her because she was a honest, nice, sweet, sexy, good-looking young girls with good manners.

LukeSkywalker
08-11-13, 18:42
Pics of the seafood market at night and the Chinese / Phil restaurants that will cook the fish for a fee.

The face belongs to a MBC girl who spent a couple days with me in and out of bed. Hehe. I had a great time with this sexy girl who speaks perfect English and good manners everywhere we went.

Sorry no nude pics.


The Seafood market near the New Asia Mall, sells live seafood, and there are a dozen restaurants that cook the seafood for you, but prices are very high, not recommended.

The girl is a daughter of a fisherman on some remote island. She gave me the name but I did not recognize. She went to Manila for college and ran out of money. She speaks excellent English, was a very good tour guide and sex partner in bed. I was having sex bareback with her after the first day, the very few times I did with pro girls.

I just clicked with her because she was a honest, nice, sweet, sexy, good-looking young girls with good manners.

WestCoast1
08-11-13, 20:55
Trying to decide between getting an apartment in Malate or Makati for 3 weeks.CP: Maybe split it. 10 days in each area. Or if more girls are pulled in Malate. 14 days Malate and 7 days Makati. Also, skip the traveling altogether if you can. If you're staying in Makati, just concentrate on the clubs there, and ignore Malate (assuming you are splitting time between the two cities) , and vice versa when in Malate.


Is there a jeepney that goes from Makati to Malate? When do they stop running at night?Yes, but you might have to catch 2 separate jeeps. A year ago an older lady was providing girls in Malate. She seemed to have quite a fresh, quick supply. One of the girls turned out to be from Makati, and she came to me in Malate numerous times. She said it was 2 jeeps for her, p8 + p8, to get to Robinson's Malate. Also keep in mind that jeeps can take 2x (or more) the length of time as a taxi (gents, is that remotely close?). In fact, I had three girls recently making trips from Makati to me in Malate in the afternoons. None of the girls could make the trip in under 2 hours, and closer to 3 hours was the norm in the daytime. Going the reverse direction was the same amount of time for them when they left, if they left around 5pm.

Keep in mind that if you shower and leave from Malate to hit a nice club in Makati, on the jeep, you may need another shower when you get to Makati (for numerous reasons, I don't recommend using jeeps to move about town).


How much is a taxi to Malate from Makati? Like 350p?Daytime traffic, this is hard to pin down. 200-300 is a fair guess; you're talking 30-60 minutes depending on the route (different drivers will try different routes to avoid traffic). Some taxi drivers will refuse the ride altogether, or simply ask a larger amount up front, say 350 and no meter. Some people will think this is a ripoff, as its above the normal metered price of 250-300. However, its not a ripoff: the driver knows he will probably not get a fare going back to his original location, and will have to charge more for gas. Another alternative is to ask for meter and agree to pay a specified amount above it,"Meter plus 70."

At night about 9-10pm, when traffic eases, its a faster trip, as little as 25 minutes, and p180. After 11pm 20 minutes, p130-150 in taxi. Gents do I have that remotely close?

CaliPro
08-12-13, 00:23
CP: Maybe split it. 10 days in each area. Or if more girls are pulled in Malate. 14 days Malate and 7 days Makati. Also, skip the traveling altogether if you can. If you're staying in Makati, just concentrate on the clubs there, and ignore Malate (assuming you are splitting time between the two cities) , and vice versa when in Malate.I can't do that. Clubs in Makati are too expensive. Only reason why I'm considering Makati is due to the apartment being really nice for around the same price as the apartment in Malate.


Yes, but you might have to catch 2 separate jeeps. A year ago an older lady was providing girls in Malate. She seemed to have quite a fresh, quick supply. One of the girls turned out to be from Makati, and she came to me in Malate numerous times. She said it was 2 jeeps for her, p8 + p8, to get to Robinson's Malate. Also keep in mind that jeeps can take 2x (or more) the length of time as a taxi (gents, is that remotely close?). In fact, I had three girls recently making trips from Makati to me in Malate in the afternoons. None of the girls could make the trip in under 2 hours, and closer to 3 hours was the norm in the daytime. Going the reverse direction was the same amount of time for them when they left, if they left around 5pm.After talking with some girls it is 2 jeepneys. First one to Buiendia, then the next to Pedro Gil. I need to ask them to make that route around 9pm and tell me how long it takes. If it is 2 hours then I guess I will just stick to the apartment in Malate.


Keep in mind that if you shower and leave from Malate to hit a nice club in Makati, on the jeep, you may need another shower when you get to Makati (for numerous reasons, I don't recommend using jeeps to move about town).Yes this could be a problem but it wasn't that hot in the evening and night time from what I remember.


Daytime traffic, this is hard to pin down. 200-300 is a fair guess; you're talking 30-60 minutes depending on the route (different drivers will try different routes to avoid traffic). Some taxi drivers will refuse the ride altogether, or simply ask a larger amount up front, say 350 and no meter. Some people will think this is a ripoff, as its above the normal metered price of 250-300. However, its not a ripoff: the driver knows he will probably not get a fare going back to his original location, and will have to charge more for gas. Another alternative is to ask for meter and agree to pay a specified amount above it,"Meter plus 70."

At night about 9-10pm, when traffic eases, its a faster trip, as little as 25 minutes, and p180. After 11pm 20 minutes, p130-150 in taxi. Gents do I have that remotely close?Will have to do a little more research before making my decision.

Econo Tech
08-12-13, 07:05
Pics of the seafood market at night and the Chinese / Phil restaurants that will cook the fish for a fee.

The face belongs to a MBC girl who spent a couple days with me in and out of bed. Hehe. I had a great time with this sexy girl who speaks perfect English and good manners everywhere we went.

Sorry no nude pics.Seafood by the bay. Yah, been there, and almost got slapped by a nice family pinay, for asking if I should share the bill. A bill of about 4,000 peso.

Lovely crabs by the way.

Hutsori
08-13-13, 00:01
Also keep in mind that jeeps can take 2x (or more) the length of time as a taxi (gents, is that remotely close?). In fact, I had three girls recently making trips from Makati to me in Malate in the afternoons. None of the girls could make the trip in under 2 hours, and closer to 3 hours was the norm in the daytime. Going the reverse direction was the same amount of time for them when they left, if they left around 5pm.

Keep in mind that if you shower and leave from Malate to hit a nice club in Makati, on the jeep, you may need another shower when you get to Makati (for numerous reasons, I don't recommend using jeeps to move about town).

At night about 9-10pm, when traffic eases, its a faster trip, as little as 25 minutes, and p180. After 11pm 20 minutes, p130-150 in taxi. Gents do I have that remotely close?1) Yes, jeeps take at least as twice as long. If you enter one with few passengers often it won't depart for quite a while and when it does it'll creep along the kerb looking for more. But during rush hour it is quite difficult to find a taxi, more so when it's raining. Of course the queues for jeeps during rush hour can be very long. I ride jeeps during the daytime and early evening, but after 9pm or so I avoid due to safety. The buses take about the same time, and the aircon ones are much more comfortable.

2) You're close. Going to Malate (Remedios and Adriatico) from Makati (Buendia and Pasong Tamo) after 11 pm (I rarely go earlier) is 15-20 minutes and p100-p120. Avoid Osmena Highway (SLEX) as it's often crowded with trucks; Roxas is the better route.

It isn't mentioned often here but the best way to cut daytime commute times is to use the LRT and MRT, especially from QC to / from Makati or Malate / Ermita. Knowing which station you're near and the appropriate jeep for her to ride from the station you can ably advise your girl.

Hutsori
08-13-13, 00:59
Trying to decide between getting an apartment in Malate or Makati for 3 weeks.I'm a Makati advocate provided 1) you're not interested in Robinson's wandering and 2) you have no intention to swing by MBC in the afternoon or early evening.

If you intend to pull girls from the dating sites Makati is more centrally located, e.g. many girls live in QC, Pasay, Pasig and Taguig. The shopping malls and entertainment options are an enticing lure; many girls journey here of their own accord to eye shop and socialize, so it's a short hop to your place. And since there are so many call centres here it's easy for them to visit you before or after work; quite nice to have a girl come over at 7am after she's pulled her shift. You don't need to be too clever to arrange a morning visitor, an afternoon one, and an evening guest. If you're keen to visit Malate bars traveling there after 10 pm is quick and cheap enough.

CaliPro
08-13-13, 15:11
I'm a Makati advocate provided 1) you're not interested in Robinson's wandering and 2) you have no intention to swing by MBC in the afternoon or early evening.

If you intend to pull girls from the dating sites Makati is more centrally located, e. G. Many girls live in QC, Pasay, Pasig and Taguig. The shopping malls and entertainment options are an enticing lure; many girls journey here of their own accord to eye shop and socialize, so it's a short hop to your place. And since there are so many call centres here it's easy for them to visit you before or after work; quite nice to have a girl come over at 7am after she's pulled her shift. You don't need to be too clever to arrange a morning visitor, an afternoon one, and an evening guest. If you're keen to visit Malate bars traveling there after 10 pm is quick and cheap enough.After some thought, the logistics of Malate / Pasay are just too good. The Bay Walk, MBC, Robinsons, Insomnia, Zzyzx, De LaSalle Uni, Mall of Asia, Cowboy Grill, Bellagio Square. Stones throw from Pasay and Republic.

Only downside is its more of a hassle for girls to commute and meet me, but I'm sure they will find a way.

Soapy Smith
08-13-13, 15:44
It isn't mentioned often here but the best way to cut daytime commute times is to use the LRT and MRT, especially from QC to / from Makati or Malate / Ermita. Knowing which station you're near and the appropriate jeep for her to ride from the station you can ably advise your girl.Daily Inquirer did a little test of travel times about six years ago. They sent employees out to go from points A to B on three different routes, with some pairs going by taxi, others by jeepney, and others by LRT / MRT. The LRT / MRT teams were much faster on the three or so routes they tested. That has been my experience as well.

RK and I provided some give-and-take on LRT and MRT in the getting around Manila thread a while back, and these were the caveats:

The trains have gotten much more crowded in recent years so that travel can be unpleasant except for early morning, a short stint during mid-day, after 7:30 or so evenings and on weekends. The first cars on LRT are reserved for women and elderly, but even these get quite crowded.

Getting on can be facilitated by boarding at the first station or two on the line, but getting off often involves squeezing or pushing past people who are packed in like sardines, and people trying to board from the platform often do not make way for people trying to get off. This is coping behavior habituated from individuals' life experiences putting up with the everyday crap all around them in the Phils.

Do not leave valuables in your pockets. I even had an appointment calendar picked from my back pocket-no value to the thieves but inconvenient for me. They are very experienced and work in teams on a regular basis.

The passenger really needs to know the routes and stations or risk getting lost. Many of the locations H cites require changing from MRT to LRT or vice versa near the intersection of EDSA and Taft, and it's an easy place to get lost. Also, as H points out, getting from the station to any physical address requires knowledge of jeepney routes and streets, although a cab from the station to local address is likely to be fairly cheap. Do not assume that locals know the routes or can follow directions. As only an occasional visitor I know the routes better than any Filipinos I know. This says more about them than me.

The passenger will get hot and sweaty so plan a twosome shower as part of the get together.

Sammon
08-13-13, 16:22
Only downside is its more of a hassle for girls to commute and meet me, but I'm sure they will find a way.Most of the dating site girls I have met know what jeepneys to take where. Only thing they do not know hotel location. So the meeting point is usually mall of asia, Robinson mall or any other landmark. I usually stay at bayview park which is opposit U. S embassy. So sometimes they can come there. Also many girls want to be escorted to the hotel. Remember these are not prostitutes.

OnePackGuy
08-14-13, 00:11
Most of the dating site girls I have met know what jeepneys to take where. Only thing they do not know hotel location. So the meeting point is usually mall of asia, Robinson mall or any other landmark. I usually stay at bayview park which is opposit U. S embassy. So sometimes they can come there. Also many girls want to be escorted to the hotel. Remember these are not prostitutes.I would rather stay in Makati or BGC. Like others have mentioned, unless you plan to make daily trips to MBC or Robinsons, I prefer the atmosphere of the better parts of Manila. I'm a bit partial since I used to live in BGC for five years, watching it grow from a strip to a major development. Non pros have also not been to Greenbelt or Aroura, so they might appreciate the upscale feel too.

Hutsori
08-14-13, 01:10
Stones throw from Pasay and Republic.If only one traveled on thrown stones. ;)

I live very close to the skyway and a taxi ride from my Makati condo to / from Resorts World is approx. 15 minutes. Rarely any traffic. One could certainly be stuck in a taxi as it creeps along Mabini, Del Pilar, Adriatico, etc. zig zagging around jeeps driving two abreast, pedicabs, stumbling Koreans, illegally parked cars, and other barriers for a much longer duration.

CaliPro
08-15-13, 03:35
I am about 3 months out from my 2 month trip in the Philippines.

Manila 3 weeks.

Cebu 3 weeks.

Dumaguete 2 weeks.

Fuck this will be pure epic. Already have some smoking chicks I hooked up with last time waiting for me, plus about 100 new girls I met online for each city waiting on my message when I touch down.

Will be first trip where I stay in one city longer than a week.

Blu8096
08-15-13, 12:58
Welcome to Manila Blu. Now Malate is not my cup of tea and is why I like Makati but if you think Malate is that go into the provinces and see the real poverty and dirt.

Or go to India which IMHO is worse on the real poverty / dirt scale than what you have ever seen so far.

This is why I avoid Malate etc at all costs and never go MBC preferring my regulars or a visit to Havana Café instead.I learned the hard way that you are 100% correct.

Never Malate again, I will be staying in Makati, although I do want to try out Forte.

Blu8096
08-15-13, 13:02
Yes!

Yes!

Yes it is!

Blu, you're givin' me a stiffie!

More girls for me!

(I like Cebu / Colon, too!) LOL. Twice.

Blu8096
08-15-13, 13:10
Trying to decide between getting an apartment in Malate or Makati for 3 weeks.

Will spend most my time in Malate. However the apartment in Makati is much nicer. I am trying to keep costs down on traveling though.

Is there a jeepney that goes from Makati to Malate? When do they stop running at night?

How much is a taxi to Malate from Makati? Like 350p?

Hey, I though you were down and dirty and staying in a squatters place?

Glad to see you are moving up in the world. It is so much better to be someplace comfortable!

Malate Robinson Mall to Greenbelt 3 is about 120p. 140P (I have been doing it a lot lately) if they don't rip you off. If you are really cheap take the LRT it is easy and fast but requires a little walking.

Stay in Makati by greenbelt (walking distance). I do not recommend Malate. MBC is cool and I do like the music up stairs, the pizzas are HUGE and the girls who are barfined upstairs are smoking. The random area girls have some cuties also. But it is dirty as FUCK around the place.
Cowboy is cool but the nachos sucked- they gave them to me cold and told me they are supposed to be that way.

I am right across the street from Robinsons mall. Awesome view , the mall is good, but the little kids running around naked , the garbage and pollution, the beggars- it is just plain dirty and a bit smelly. I walk to mbc and cowboys and the nightclub here. I don't feel threatened but its just nasty and dirty and beggars. Its a rough street life for the people here.

CaliPro
08-15-13, 14:53
Hey, I though you were down and dirty and staying in a squatters place?

Glad to see you are moving up in the world. It is so much better to be someplace comfortable!

Malate Robinson Mall to Greenbelt 3 is about 120p. 140P (I have been doing it a lot lately) if they don't rip you off. If you are really cheap take the LRT it is easy and fast but requires a little walking.

Stay in Makati by greenbelt (walking distance). I do not recommend Malate. MBC is cool and I do like the music up stairs, the pizzas are HUGE and the girls who are barfined upstairs are smoking. The random area girls have some cuties also. But it is dirty as FUCK around the place.

Cowboy is cool but the nachos sucked- they gave them to me cold and told me they are supposed to be that way.

I am right across the street from Robinsons mall. Awesome view, the mall is good, but the little kids running around naked, the garbage and pollution, the beggars- it is just plain dirty and a bit smelly. I walk to mbc and cowboys and the nightclub here. I don't feel threatened but its just nasty and dirty and beggars. Its a rough street life for the people here.Hotels are a rip off in Philippines. Way better and cheaper to get an apartment.

I have no reason to stay in Makati as most the places I will be hanging out will be in Malate. I don't mind the rough and dirty aspect of Malate (so long as my room isn't like that LOL)

Fuck I can't wait.

Sammon
08-15-13, 16:32
I am about 3 months out from my 2 month trip in the Philippines.

Manila 3 weeks.

Cebu 3 weeks.

Dumaguete 2 weeks.

Fuck this will be pure epic. Already have some smoking chicks I hooked up with last time waiting for me, plus about 100 new girls I met online for each city waiting on my message when I touch down.

Will be first trip where I stay in one city longer than a week.Do not keep any normal girl more than 3 days. The reason being most are horny and give good service first few days. Afterwards they complain about being sore, tired, bored etc. Also once they get used to you they think they.

Can get away with anything. I found out one day is too short and expensive. Two days are good for ok service because service sometimes gets better second day. Three days are good for bonding.

If you want to avoid walk of shame stay only three days in any particular hotel. Do not know about apartments because I always like safety and security of hotels.

CaliPro
08-15-13, 23:50
Do not keep any normal girl more than 3 days. The reason being most are horny and give good service first few days. Afterwards they complain about being sore, tired, bored etc. Also once they get used to you they think they.

Can get away with anything. I found out one day is too short and expensive. Two days are good for ok service because service sometimes gets better second day. Three days are good for bonding.

If you want to avoid walk of shame stay only three days in any particular hotel. Do not know about apartments because I always like safety and security of hotels.Plan to put the best girls on rotation, while adding a new girl everyday.

Cool Traveler
08-16-13, 00:11
St. Giles / City Garden Hotel to New World Hotel, it is 1.8 km. If there is zero traffic, takes a 10 minute taxi drive. With traffic which is almost always jammed, it is about 40 min to an hour drive from Burgos to Greenbelt. Burgos and Greenbelt (Greenbelt 3 is where Havana is located) is connected by Makati Avenue. Almost a straight road crossing couple of major streets such as Roxas. In Burgos area (or North East Makati) , there are quite a few hotels. The most frequented hotel by members is the St. Giles. The clubs, and bars in Burgos are behind St. Giles. Right next to St. Giles or almost attached to St. Giles is the City Garden Makati Suites. I have stayed at both the hotels. St. Giles is between $80 to $140 depending where and how soon you purchase the room. City Garden Makati by far is the better hotel. It is much cleaner and always about 10 to 20 bucks cheaper at any given time. I stayed at the St. Giles pretty recently and was disappointed. City Garden right next door was a much better deal. Up the road (North) from St. Giles on Makati Avenue is the Best Western which is pretty decent, and a few other hotels. There are other hotels in and around Burgos area, which are cheaper. Some that I would recommend around the corner of Kalayaan and Makati Avenue where St. Giles is located is the Berjaya Makati, Tune Hotel, Best Western Plus Antel, Best Western Oxford Suites, Makati Palace, and even the Royal Bellagio. Royal Bellagio is right behind St. Giles. The ground floor of Royal Bellagio is a bar, and Pinay's, especially FLs do come there for pickups. At any given day and time, I have encountered about half a dozen girls, increasing with as the evening draws in. This probably is beginning of the 'bar street' of Burgos.

Along the way from Burgos to Greenbelt 3 on Makati Avenue, there are quite a few other hotels. As you walk down Makati Avenue from Burgos to, you will cross The Mandarin Oriental, Somerset Olympia, The Peninsula Manila, Makati Shangrila, Raffles and New World Hotel. If you hit Arnaiz Stree, or pass the Fairmont Hotel, you have passed the greenbelt. Greenbelt will be on your right as you walk south.

Makati Avenue is a straight road. Pretty busy with both cars and walking traffic most of the day. I have walked this route in the day time and middle of the night and had no problem, but I do not recommend it. I was drunk that day. Middle of the night, there is no traffic, and just take a taxi, and it is cheap. I have jogged from City Garden to Greenbelt, got a Starbucks and walked back, on a early morning.

But early evening, or day time, if you'the like a walk, walk it. Better than being stuck in traffic for 45 minutes. Corner of Kalayaan and Makati, where St. Giles is located, to Greenbelt is approximately 25 minute for the brisk walker, and 30 to 35 minutes for those slow mo's.

Staying in either of this places, Burgos or Makati, you can easily visit the Havana and Burgos.

Cool Traveler
08-16-13, 00:16
Yes! Cerveseria. I loved their barbecued asparagus appetizer. Great place to sit and watch the action. Sit on the outside, and closer to the Seattles Best Coffee. This way the girls can sidle up to you there.


Cerveseria. Actually Cafe Breton is right beside Havana, then a GB3 entrance, and then Cerveseria.

Soapy Smith
08-17-13, 15:05
An argument with a subdivision security guard Thursday night led to the fatal shooting of an American diver and businessman who last year received an award from President Aquino for helping the Coast Guard search for the body of then Interior Secretary Jesse Robredo.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/467247/american-diver-who-helped-search-for-robredo-killedWord to the wise for ex-pats and short time visitors. But the Napoles story on the same page, which spreads to a series of other articles from the Inquirer, is sort of a gang-buster on corruption in the Philippine system. 74 members of Congress involved?

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/467339/coa-funds-sourced-from-enrile-revilla-estrada-honasan-pdaf

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/466969/74-solons-exceeded-pdaf-budget-by-hundreds-of-millions-says-coa

Blu8096
08-17-13, 21:31
Just went to xxyxx or yyxyy or something like that. The Korean girls there are smoking hot!

But they do not seem like working girls, they seem to be with a group that includes guys and such.

Where is a spot to pick up some hot Korean girls?

Mahaba
08-18-13, 00:21
Just went to xxyxx or yyxyy or something like that. The Korean girls there are smoking hot!

But they do not seem like working girls, they seem to be with a group that includes guys and such.

Where is a spot to pick up some hot Korean girls?I have had pretty good luck in Korea.

LukeSkywalker
08-18-13, 01:16
Looks like this ex-pat did not pay his bills, then repeatedly harranged security guards, whose job is to block out people who are behind in bills.

This story does not make sense. If this guy works for an American company in the Phil, he should be so well paid that he should have no problems paying the fees.

But why did the security guard take it personally? He's looking at long prison sentence for using wrong bills collecting tactics for the subdivivision.

Would love to shack up with the little sexy live-in partners Pinays, but I hate it if I get shot in the face for not paying bills.

Manila can be dangerous.

Xxxxxxxxx.

American diver who helped search for Robredo killed.

Row with Las Pińas village guard triggers shooting.

By Jaymee T. Gamil Philippine Daily Inquirer.

11:23 pm | Friday, August 16th. 2013.

An argument with a subdivision security guard Thursday night led to the fatal shooting of an American diver and businessman who last year received an award from President Aquino for helping the Coast Guard search for the body of then Interior Secretary Jesse Robredo.

Matthew Caldwell. 59, of Hamilton Heights, Las Pińas City, was shot in the face allegedly by security guard Ericson Elacquio, who escaped with another guard following the incident, police said.

Chief Insp. Eddie Galang of the Las Pińas police said the suspect shot the victim during an argument at the gate around 10:30 pm Caldwell and his live-in partner, Jeanelyn Flora. 36, were in their Toyota Corolla on their way home when Elacquio refused to let them enter.

The guards at the gate had been ordered by the subdivision management not to give access to residents who had been delinquent in paying monthly dues, according to Chief Insp. Vanni Martinez, head of the investigation unit.

Elacquio refused to raise the wooden boom barrier when he encountered the couple, according to the officers.

It was not the first time that the security guard and the American had a heated exchange over unpaid dues. 'We saw at least three similar records in the guards' logbook, with (Caldwell) reported as cursing the guards at one point and even cutting the ropes of the wooden boom [barrier], ' Martinez said.

Elacquio snapped after the couple argued with him again. When Caldwell tried to remove the wooden boom of the gate, the security guard drew his service firearm and shot the American pointblank.

The Las Pińas police also identified Caldwell as a director of Allegro Microsystems Inc.

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An argument with a subdivision security guard Thursday night led to the fatal shooting of an American diver and businessman who last year received an award from President Aquino for helping the Coast Guard search for the body of then Interior Secretary Jesse Robredo.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/467247/american-diver-who-helped-search-for-robredo-killed

CaliPro
08-18-13, 01:23
Just went to xxyxx or yyxyy or something like that. The Korean girls there are smoking hot!

But they do not seem like working girls, they seem to be with a group that includes guys and such.

Where is a spot to pick up some hot Korean girls?Good luck picking up any hot Korean.

I live in Korea, these girls are very xenophobic and being anything other than full blooded Korean is a negative.

Best to not waste your time and stick to the Pinays.

Member #4387
08-18-13, 02:16
Just went to xxyxx or yyxyy or something like that. The Korean girls there are smoking hot!

But they do not seem like working girls, they seem to be with a group that includes guys and such.

Where is a spot to pick up some hot Korean girls?I woke up in my hotelroom with a korean woman after a visit to Insomnia / Malate. She had to show me her passport to make me believe she was korean. Before I went all shitfaced at Insomnia I noticed there were quite a lot of people in this club atleast looking korean (and obviously the girl joining me was korean). Don't ask me why. Maby this is somewhere close to "koreatown" or sth (I guess Manila has one too).

Soapy Smith
08-18-13, 04:30
just went to xxyxx or yyxyy or something like that. the korean girls there are smoking hot!

but they do not seem like working girls, they seem to be with a group that includes guys and such.

where is a spot to pick up some hot korean girls?korea is definitely the hottest spot to pick up korean girls. besides, korea is very clean. unlike ermita and malate it is pretty much devoid of nasty old toothless grannies, dirty begging mothers with naked kids, thieving street urchins, panhandlers, and annoying street vendors. the only downside is that, because professional korean men's lifestyle frequently involves drinking and singing into the wee morning hours, you do find the stench of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) along the curbs and building walls very early in the morning. but unlike in ermita, korean property owners get out and scrub up the trash and stench so that everything looks bright and fresh before noon. definitely a better mongering destination than the philippines for those who are easily offended by dirty surroundings.

Hutsori
08-18-13, 04:53
Just went to xxyxx or yyxyy or something like that. The Korean girls there are smoking hot!

But they do not seem like working girls, they seem to be with a group that includes guys and such.

Where is a spot to pick up some hot Korean girls?That would be ZZYZX near the corner of Adriatico and Remedios. Both ZZYZX and Insomnia are heavily patronized by Koreans, mostly guys of course. You'll also find quite a few in Bedrock on Adriatico across the street from the Malate Pension. BGC also has a lot of Koreans.

OnePackGuy
08-18-13, 05:59
korea is definitely the hottest spot to pick up korean girls. besides, korea is very clean. unlike ermita and malate it is pretty much devoid of nasty old toothless grannies, dirty begging mothers with naked kids, thieving street urchins, panhandlers, and annoying street vendors. the only downside is that, because professional korean men's lifestyle frequently involves drinking and singing into the wee morning hours, you do find the stench of [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) along the curbs and building walls very early in the morning. but unlike in ermita, korean property owners get out and scrub up the trash and stench so that everything looks bright and fresh before noon. definitely a better mongering destination than the philippines for those who are easily offended by dirty surroundings.there is a lot of vomit too. baked on vomit is hard to remove, which is why you see the crew trying to clean it up. i see the same in japan, where the businessmen drink themselves silly, for reasons i don't know. i figure more fun to be outside than being at home with the spouse.

Blu8096
08-18-13, 07:04
That would be ZZYZX near the corner of Adriatico and Remedios. Both ZZYZX and Insomnia are heavily patronized by Koreans, mostly guys of course. You'll also find quite a few in Bedrock on Adriatico across the street from the Malate Pension. BGC also has a lot of Koreans.Thanks for the advice. Of course Korea would be the best place, but I meant here in manila.

I appreciate the tips of the other bars to check out. I have been to Insomnia a few times but did not really notice the Korean girls there. I will check it

Out again and the other places also mentioned. Am I correct in my thinking the super cute Korean girls I have seen are not working girls?

Or do you think many of them are p4p.

Hutsori
08-18-13, 09:34
Thanks for the advice. Of course Korea would be the best place, but I meant here in manila.

I appreciate the tips of the other bars to check out. I have been to Insomnia a few times but did not really notice the Korean girls there. I will check it

Out again and the other places also mentioned. Am I correct in my thinking the super cute Korean girls I have seen are not working girls?

Or do you think many of them are p4p.Though Korea is a large exporter of working girls (I recall it's the nation's 4th largest export after cars, phones and babies) it's primarily to Japan, the US and Australia. It wouldn't surprise me to find some on a "working" holiday here but I reckon they'd mainly be catering to their fellow countrymen. Next time I come across a Korean newspaper I'll check whether ads have been placed. On occasion I've found some K-girls who reside in metro Manila posting profiles in DIA, etc.

Most of the young Koreans you'll come across residing here are for English language study. If I were inclined to find Koreans I'd stake out cafes and restaurants near the larger language schools. No idea where those are. The girls tend to gather in gaggles.

CaliPro
08-18-13, 11:44
Thanks for the advice. Of course Korea would be the best place, but I meant here in manila.

I appreciate the tips of the other bars to check out. I have been to Insomnia a few times but did not really notice the Korean girls there. I will check it

Out again and the other places also mentioned. Am I correct in my thinking the super cute Korean girls I have seen are not working girls?

Or do you think many of them are p4p.None of those Korean girls are working / p4p. They are there studying English or and exchange student at one of the Universities.

OnePackGuy
08-18-13, 12:39
Though Korea is a large exporter of working girls (I recall it's the nation's 4th largest export after cars, phones and babies) it's primarily to Japan, the US and Australia. It wouldn't surprise me to find some on a "working" holiday here but I reckon they'd mainly be catering to their fellow countrymen. Next time I come across a Korean newspaper I'll check whether ads have been placed. On occasion I've found some K-girls who reside in metro Manila posting profiles in DIA, etc.

Most of the young Koreans you'll come across residing here are for English language study. If I were inclined to find Koreans I'd stake out cafes and restaurants near the larger language schools. No idea where those are. The girls tend to gather in gaggles.The Korean girls and also guys, are here to learn English bc it is cheaper than going to the US. Thats why its not strange to find them in Cebu and other places where there are schools in great locations. For younger kids, you will find them coming with their mothers, while the father continues working in Korea.

Sammon
08-18-13, 15:15
Thanks for the advice. Of course Korea would be the best place, but I meant here in manila.

I appreciate the tips of the other bars to check out. I have been to Insomnia a few times but did not really notice the Korean girls there. I will check it

Out again and the other places also mentioned. Am I correct in my thinking the super cute Korean girls I have seen are not working girls?

Or do you think many of them are p4p.There are many Korean girls in Cebu. You can see them in groups in the mall and restaurants. Very rarely they look at others. However one time I was eating with my beautiful Cebu DIA girl in a restaurant and this Korean girl kept on smiling and saying hello to me. She was with other three girls. My girl got very jealous and walked outside. It took all my will power to bring her back in and avoid contact with the Korean girl. I guess Korean girl knew what happened. I tried talking to
the waitress to see if she will talk to the Korean girl to get her phone number for me. She refused saying Korean girls are nasty.

I have not seen any Korean girls in Phi bars working. Lots of them come to learn english. Once I stayed at Alta resort in Cebu where they teach English and house and feed Korean girls and guys. I was with a Phi girl that time too We got friendly with the girls and guys and once they were going to a disco place and we went along in spite of my gf objection who wanted nothing to do with them. Night ended up as she got pissed all the time.

However I had a good time drinking and dancing with them.

I never had a non working Korean girl. Had many beautiful Korean girls working in massage places here in USA. They were clean and did very good service.

In summary I doubt whether you will get any Korean girls in Phi. Most of them are students but there are some who have settled with their parents. They seem to be sticking around with other Koreans only. Have flown many times on Korean airlines,eva etc.
Very pretty air hostesses they have

FLT09
08-18-13, 15:46
I have been living in Korea for 4 years now. I can't speak to where K girls are in the Phi or the percentage of working girls, but I can offer a little insight in general on non-working K girls.

Sammon is correct when he says that most are there for English purposes. I know many Koreans that have been there or are on their way there for that reason. They due tend to hand out with primarily other Koreans, simply for the fact that they are rather racist, in the nicest sense of the word if that's possible. They either like foreigners or want nothing to do with them. Koreans are very proud to be Korean and are very fond of racial purity. That sentiment is lessening a bit with the younger generation, living in the bigger cities, due to all the western influence and most are exposed to westerners in English classes for most of their childhood, and most of the K girls there will be from the bigger cities.

On a lighter note, I wanted to comment on what Sammon said about the K girl smiling at him at the restaurant. Korean girls are not ones to come up to you. Their game is to constantly look at you. If they are doing that, they are totally interested and would gladly talk to you and give you their number. After a bit of back and forth it is easy to set up a date with them.

In terms of getting laid from a non-working girl, that depends. Korea tries to repress their public image of sex. However, most are not shy to sleep with you after the first or second date. There is a reason there are love motels EVERYWHERE in this country. With that said, they are not the most adventurous in the bedroom.

The plus side is they are genuinely going to be interested in you and not trying to get with you because you are foreign and want money from you. If they are there then their parents are probably doing pretty well.

The truest advice I can give if you are just looking to hookup with a non-working K girl is something I tell all new arrivals here and it has been tried and true from all accounts. If they smoke they poke.

I don't know if this will be useful to any of you, but I would gladly elaborate further if needed. I just figured I would throw my two cents in since this seems to be a hot topic.

FLT.

Mbsl65
08-19-13, 01:19
In my last trip I hooked up with one Korean girl who was hanging in Book Store in Ayala Mall next to Starbucks. If I remember she was around 29 yrs old, dressed to kill but terrible in bed like most of the Korean girls I met in USA.


There are many Korean girls in Cebu. You can see them in groups in the mall and restaurants. Very rarely they look at others. However one time I was eating with my beautiful Cebu DIA girl in a restaurant and this Korean girl kept on smiling and saying hello to me. She was with other three girls. My girl got very jealous and walked outside. It took all my will power to bring her back in and avoid contact with the Korean girl. I guess Korean girl knew what happened. I tried talking to

The waitress to see if she will talk to the Korean girl to get her phone number for me. She refused saying Korean girls are nasty.

I have not seen any Korean girls in Phi bars working. Lots of them come to learn english. Once I stayed at Alta resort in Cebu where they teach English and house and feed Korean girls and guys. I was with a Phi girl that time too We got friendly with the girls and guys and once they were going to a disco place and we went along in spite of my gf objection who wanted nothing to do with them. Night ended up as she got pissed all the time.

However I had a good time drinking and dancing with them.

I never had a non working Korean girl. Had many beautiful Korean girls working in massage places here in USA. They were clean and did very good service.

In summary I doubt whether you will get any Korean girls in Phi. Most of them are students but there are some who have settled with their parents. They seem to be sticking around with other Koreans only. Have flown many times on Korean airlines, eva etc.

Very pretty air hostesses they have

Slippery
08-19-13, 01:46
Why, may I ask, why, guys are looking for Korean girls while in the Phils or contemplating going to the Phils to meet a Korean girl? Go to the Korean board please. Then travel to Korea. About 99.99% of the girls there are Korean. Hope that helps.

Member #4643
08-19-13, 02:28
Why, may I ask, why, guys are looking for Korean girls while in the Phils or contemplating going to the Phils to meet a Korean girl? Go to the Korean board please. Then travel to Korea. About 99.99% of the girls there are Korean. Hope that helps.I have read the Korean board in great detail because I have to visit Korea this fall. I am planning to take my last 3 days and sneak off to the Philippines based on the generally negative reports on that board (it appears that language skills are essential).

Based on what I have read, I can only surmise that it is probably easier to bed a Korean in Cebu than Seoul.

Ekspat
08-19-13, 02:56
Why, may I ask, why, guys are looking for Korean girls while in the Phils or contemplating going to the Phils to meet a Korean girl?Right. And additionally, ALL Korean girls I've seen in the Phils so far, are butt-ugly. I fully understand that the Korean guys are going after the Pinays as we do.

Hutsori
08-19-13, 04:22
right. and additionally, all korean girls i've seen in the phils so far, are butt-ugly.mostly correct. short, thick radish legs and over-sized squarish heads do not make for "hot" unless your definition of it includes strapping her to a plough rather than giving her one; unbelievably many of these numbskulls cop a 'tude believing they too are kpoop girl-group members. i surmise the fawning admiration the locals have for all things korean has gone straight to the kgirls' heads.

heed slippery and ekspat and your 3 days here will be much more enjoyable in the company of pinays.

FreebieFan
08-19-13, 04:41
I have read the Korean board in great detail because I have to visit Korea this fall. Based on the generally negative reports on that board (it appears that language skills are essential).Its much much more than just the language skills.

Koreans are taught from birth that Korea is the centre of the world, and therefor all other countries, must, be, and are, inferior.

Try walking down a street in Seoul and see if you get any facial recogntion of your prescence at all. They have perfected the " I will look at this foreigner but not actually see him " look. They look right through you.

Get drinking with a group of Korean guys in Seoul and it can be fun.

But don't ever mention chasing after their precious babes. Not appreciated. Lots of places there to buy a babe, but its generally Koreans only. All foreigners have diseases type mentality.

Enjoy your trip there.

Buko Max
08-19-13, 06:46
Why, may I ask, why, guys are looking for Korean girls while in the Phils or contemplating going to the Phils to meet a Korean girl? Go to the Korean board please. Then travel to Korea. About 99.99% of the girls there are Korean. Hope that helps.It should be obvious why this topic has legs because Koreans make up the largest percentage of international visitors numbering over one million in 2012 and growing each and every year for the past five years! With all the 'K' women flooding into Cebu and other locales, they are fair game indeed. Many are here to have a good time and / or are studying English. You should get off your duff and make in down to Cebu City and see for yourself!


Based on what I have read, I can only surmise that it is probably easier to bed a Korean in Cebu than Seoul.You got that right! The best places to hit on Korean women are the disco and in many of the resorts on Mactan island. Would see super hot women regularly win the weekly dance competition at the now defunct Sunflower disco. They love to make the disco scene even more then Pinays. Many times I would see them hammered and in need of someone to lean on and escort back to their hotels. At the resorts, they are not shy to parade around in skimpy bikinis. A lot of Pinays wear t-shirts and cut-offs as their beach attire. Since many are trying to learn English, that is the perfect 'in' to start a conversation and get acquainted!

PeeMan
08-19-13, 09:49
Hmm. I see a lot of Korean guys and gals in the neighborhood here in Bangalore for the same purpose. Learn English. I thought the gals acted the way they have been described below to fit into the shitty Indian w0man culture or because they were generally wary of locals for their own safety. Never realized they are like that only. All over the world.

Slippery
08-19-13, 12:05
Yeah, maybe you're right Buko. I'll be making my first trip to the Philippines soon. Duhhhhhhhhhhh.

Inlock
08-19-13, 19:31
That would be ZZYZX near the corner of Adriatico and Remedios. Both ZZYZX and Insomnia are heavily patronized by Koreans, mostly guys of course. You'll also find quite a few in Bedrock on Adriatico across the street from the Malate Pension. BGC also has a lot of Koreans.If you want to check out exactly how smoking hot the girls at ZZYZX are, go to their facebook (search for "Club ZZYZX") where they on a regular basis post loads of pictures from their club nights.

On my last trip to Manila I went to ZZYZX on the day of my arrival, and intoxicated by jetlag, lack of proper sleep on the flight and just a small amount of first-day-celebrating-drinks, I found myself outside the club after closing time accompanied by two girls who convinced me that they should join me to my condo in Makati.

After arriving there I however got a couple of second thoughts. One of the girls turned out to be a bit chubby when she took off her rather loose fitting clothes to take a shower. And being a sucker for slim girls I immediately turned my attention to the other one.

Who on the other hand seemed to be not at all going to remove her clothes. And as the daylight was now beaming at higher and higher level, allowing me to take a closer look at her face, I suddenly had a strong feeling that "she" was, hmmm, well, not really a genuine "she".

I told them that I had to back out and that I wanted them to leave, offering them a small amount for the inconvinience and to cover their transportation back home.

This of course made them furious and claiming that I needed to pay what we agreed when we left the club. And of course they also claimed that the agreed amount was for each of them, whereas I remembered it to be for both of them.

To cut a long story a little shorter, I finally decided to call the security staff of the building, who came up and kindly but firmly escorted them out.

I waited a couple of days before I returned to ZZYZX, to be sure not to run into them again when the incident was still fresh in their memory.

Actually I never saw them again.

Fast Eddie 48
08-19-13, 23:22
Right. And additionally, ALL Korean girls I've seen in the Phils so far, are butt-ugly. I fully understand that the Korean guys are going after the Pinays as we do.To Ekspat,

I meet a Korean Philipina mix girl at Dusit Thani she is one of the host there a very tall girl with long leg, I also pick up a Korean mix WG girl at a bar in Subic bay very beautiful girl 22 yr old with a 4 yr old son she never meet her Korean father, if you been to Seoul there many beautiful Korean girl there but their attiude are very poor no GFE at all.

Fast Eddie 48

Econo Tech
08-20-13, 02:22
Many are here to have a good time and / or are studying English. You should get off your duff and make in down to Cebu City and see for yourself!Well, for those in Luzon, build a apartment / rental in Baguio and 9 out of 10 times, it is Koreans who will take it.

Heck, in SM Baguio, every year Christmas time, the Korean Churches do regular Carols. Feels like Korea.


Get drinking with a group of Korean guys in Seoul and it can be fun.You got to be crazy to drink with Koreans, and they beer+Chivas mixed.

Ah, well, was hosting some Koreans on Rotary Schol, and they went "in Korea, we start drinking at 9 PM, and by 10,00 everybody is drunk, so party finishes by 11.00 PM latest." (thanks to their beer+whiskey mixed drink.)

No, haven't been to Korea.

Econo Tech
08-20-13, 02:41
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/68860/red-rainfall-warning--heavy-rains-severe-flooding-expected-in-metro-manila-10-provinces

MANILA, Philippines – Severe flooding brought by heavy rains due to the southwest monsoon enhanced by tropical storm Maring are expected in Metro Manila and 10 other provinces, the state-run weather bureau said Monday morning.Don't get upset, PNoy claimed "fewer" people died, thanks to his leadership. Vs GMA. So. All's well. LOL

KiJang
08-20-13, 12:54
on my first trip to edsa complex last week (and virgin manila trip) i went straight to firehouse. lots of attention recieved from the girls and one mamasan in particular. carmella was her name if i remember right. i was a bit flustered and could not concentrate on chosing a girl. there must have been about 60 that night. i bought the mama a drink and we had a long chat. the barfines are php 1950 across all bars she said. drinks were running php 140 for a beer and about php 380 for a lady drink.

i spotted a very pretty dimpled face with a pony tail on a petite body. mama called her off the stage. soon we warmed up to each other. she seemed a bit shy. rizzalynn was her (real) name. i don't remember the stage name. took her back to holiday inn makati. total gf hotel, with reception on 4th floor. lots of security on the ground floor including bomb squad dogs, but they don't bat an eyelid when you walk in with girls (the guards i mean). her shyness disappeared once in the room and i was surprised to see her call hotel maintenance and complain about the non working tv remote, which was promptly replaced within 30 seconds.

a good time was had with sex in all the usual positions. she was nice, but not 110% gfe like most filipinas i have been with. what a shame, as i would have loved to take her around hanging off my arm as my trophy temporary gf. she had the classy dignified look, but unfortunately also the semi-cold attitude. we watched a weird artsy filipino movie in between rounds. lots of father daughter [CodeWord128] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord128) going on in the sticks. lol!

she ran off in about 3 hours with the earlier agreed upon tip of php 3500.

firehouse is a funplace to people watch as its busy most of the time. however the girls get a little pushy with the endless line ups of take me take me, may i sit next you's.

good place for newbie introduction to edsa complex. went there a few times during the course of my trip. more reports to follow.

On The Road
08-20-13, 13:12
Very bad flood in Manila this days, very hard to move out.

I'm in Ermita now, and I will try my luck in MBC tonight.

Two nights ago I was in HC in Makati, sitting at the bar. I was approached by a girl.

She was 40 yo, way over my standard and for sure the oldest girl I ever fuck in my life, but she looked younger and nice.

She told me she is new in Manila, just arrived from North Luzon for a week holiday. I suspect this was not true, she seems to know the game, but I show her to buy her story.

We went to my room, had a very nice night. Multiple fuckings (she asked more than I can) , open to everything, full GFE. Did not regret to pick up such an old lady, once in my life.

In the morning I gave her 2000php, and she seems very satisfied.

KiJang
08-20-13, 13:15
Multiple fuckings (she asked more than I can) , open to everything, full GFE. Did not regret to pick up such an old lady, once in my life.10/10 for filipina MILFs

Ekspat
08-20-13, 14:07
Very bad flood in Manila this days, very hard to move out.In the area between Powerplant mall, P. Burgos and down to Glorietta and Greenbelt, no flooding at all.

Lucky me! Greetings!

KiJang
08-20-13, 14:35
On Korean girls. I once found a half Korean / half Mongolian in Bangkok at club CM2. She had a Korean "white card" as she was born of a Korean father. 5'9" (without heels) , milky white skin, slim and with beautiful high cheekbones. She was expensive (6000 Baht on the first night) , but well worth it. She introduced me to to Korean food at plaza Sukhumvit aka Korean plaza. We spent 2 subsequent nights eating, drinking, clubbing and going out to the movies. Best 3 nights in BKK ever.

Few years back in Cebu I was got hit upon by a Korean girl at Julianas. Well I was [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk and it was too loud in there for any conversation. She kept smiling and then leaning one me and at one point tried to feed me her whiskey! I'm not sure how that night ended, but it was definitely not with her. Sunflower disco had lots of hot Korean chicks dancing like K-pop stars, and this made honey ko very jealous. Needless to say we only stayed for 2 drinks.

FYI I am brown and the Koreans seemed an ok bunch to talk to while in Boracay. However my then filipina GF would keep repeating that they were a rude bunch.

Mbsl65
08-20-13, 17:40
It may well be the truth. Because many USA or AU bound girls spend sometime in Manila to do visa work and during that period many of them do work in MBC or Havana. I made very good connections for USA. They do still service me as I travel in USA.


Very bad flood in Manila this days, very hard to move out.

I'm in Ermita now, and I will try my luck in MBC tonight.

Two nights ago I was in HC in Makati, sitting at the bar. I was approached by a girl.

She was 40 yo, way over my standard and for sure the oldest girl I ever fuck in my life, but she looked younger and nice.

She told me she is new in Manila, just arrived from North Luzon for a week holiday. I suspect this was not true, she seems to know the game, but I show her to buy her story.

We went to my room, had a very nice night. Multiple fuckings (she asked more than I can) , open to everything, full GFE. Did not regret to pick up such an old lady, once in my life.

In the morning I gave her 2000php, and she seems very satisfied.

Gigamon
08-20-13, 18:36
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AfAsia
08-20-13, 21:05
Gentlemen, as the above title alludes to, please use the following link to discuss foreign ladies. Thank you.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3517-Foreign-ladies-in-The-Philippines&p=1461402#post1461402

CaliPro
08-21-13, 04:03
Is Firehouse the best joint in EDSA? By best I mean 1) Number of hot girls 2) Fun atmosphere.

How much would it cost me to go in and get numbers from a girl or two? I am 27 and don't usually pay for sex, so I would just be trying to get them when they are off work on a date or something. Seems like it might be tricky talking to the girls and getting their number without buying lady drinks etc. I guess I could buy 1 or 2 if need be for a stunner.

I'll be in Manila in November and will mostly stick to online game and night game to get girls. With a few plucked from daygame at the malls. But wouldn't mind checking out EDSA once or twice to see what I can catch.

Bumz Rush
08-21-13, 06:44
The rain is still battering Manila, all the good areas, are underwater.

I have a house in Makati that is OK at the moment.

I hope my family are safe and dry.

Also all the fellow ISG members in town this week.

Bumz

Ekspat
08-21-13, 15:19
The rain is still battering Manila, all the good areas, are underwater.

BumzThe good areas like Makati are okay. No flooding, Burgos is alive and kicking, Greenbelt okay, nothing to worry!

Aerishman
08-21-13, 15:29
Been seeing this girls for 3 months or so. We meet on weekends and have good time. Problem is, I have a job and no time Mon-Fri. She doesn't admit it but I know she is shagging another guy hehe.

Oh well, just curious. Is it even possible to stop her from doing that, or just let it go.

Thanks chaps.

Pip Jaeger
08-21-13, 15:44
Is Firehouse the best joint in EDSA? By best I mean 1) Number of hot girls 2) Fun atmosphere.

How much would it cost me to go in and get numbers from a girl or two? I am 27 and don't usually pay for sex, so I would just be trying to get them when they are off work on a date or something. Seems like it might be tricky talking to the girls and getting their number without buying lady drinks etc. I guess I could buy 1 or 2 if need be for a stunner.IMHO I think you'd be wasting your time. Don't know the exact amount girls at the Firehouse get from the EWR and "tip", but it's certainly more that what your budget is. A stunner would probably want in the neighborhood 2K or more for a private meet, but a less used fugly chubby one may agree to less. And there's no point in taking one of them as there's plenty of less desirables to be had from other sources for free, or well within your budget, and without wasting time / taxi fare by going there. If you think about it from the girls perspective, why would they meet up with a guy who only wants to donate 500 to 1,000p when they can be EWR'd and easily get much more? Or even meet privately and get substantially more then what you've mentioned you're willing to pay and have said you've paid in the past. Don't let your self perceived "game" and "good looks" go to your head. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but it almost sounds like you think they will beating a path to your door. You've visited before, calm down and stick to your game. You'll do better at the clubs and from the online dating services.

CaliPro
08-21-13, 16:27
IMHO I think you'd be wasting your time. Don't know the exact amount girls at the Firehouse get from the EWR and "tip", but it's certainly more that what your budget is. A stunner would probably want in the neighborhood 2K or more for a private meet, but a less used fugly chubby one may agree to less. And there's no point in taking one of them as there's plenty of less desirables to be had from other sources for free, or well within your budget, and without wasting time / taxi fare by going there. If you think about it from the girls perspective, why would they meet up with a guy who only wants to donate 500 to 1,000p when they can be EWR'd and easily get much more? Or even meet privately and get substantially more then what you've mentioned you're willing to pay and have said you've paid in the past. Don't let your self perceived "game" and "good looks" go to your head. I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but it almost sounds like you think they will beating a path to your door. You've visited before, calm down and stick to your game. You'll do better at the clubs and from the online dating services.I think you misunderstood me. I wouldn't be paying these girls to meet me when they are off work. If they agree to meet me it would be because they like me / are attracted to me. Would be a hey, would you like to catch a bite to eat and / or get some drinks in your free time.

I am pretty well traveled and spent considerable time in strip clubs and freelance places. Never had a problem getting working girls for free (besides the Del Rey in CR). I am not saying it is a lock I pull a stunner out of EDSA, but I feel pretty confident I could.

Nothing is or has gone to my head. I know my strengths and what I am capable of. None of that guarantees anything though. Its simply I am very confident which shows in my experiences and results. Sure I strike out from time to time, but most the time I experience success.

Your right about one thing, I am better off with online and night game. Got damn near 100 girls from Manila on my facebook just waiting for me to touch down. However, I am a greedy bastard / glutton and like to leave no stones left un-turned.

Pagal Chacha
08-21-13, 19:37
Been seeing this girls for 3 months or so. We meet on weekends and have good time. Problem is, I have a job and no time Mon-Fri. She doesn't admit it but I know she is shagging another guy hehe.

Oh well, just curious. Is it even possible to stop her from doing that, or just let it go.

Thanks chaps.I will take care of her I won't let her shag other guys.

Mtodd69
08-21-13, 22:11
Been seeing this girls for 3 months or so. We meet on weekends and have good time. Problem is, I have a job and no time Mon-Fri. She doesn't admit it but I know she is shagging another guy hehe.

Oh well, just curious. Is it even possible to stop her from doing that, or just let it go.

Thanks chaps.I will start off with wow, you asked a very interesting question! My first response would be she not really your girl? But I will digress because you did mention to letting her go. So I would keep her around as a toy, and then I would get to know some of her girlfriends because they all have eyes for a foreigner. Once you find the one who will drop the panties fuck her hour before your girl comes over and then have your gf suck your pole and when she finished ask her how her friend tasted ha ha ha? This may work or better yet she could come back and said she already has the other day! Then shoot for a three some, either way you win!

P. S You did take one for the team with that question! So much respect to you!

D Cups
08-21-13, 23:33
How noble of you, PC.


I will take care of her I won't let her shag other guys.

Hutsori
08-22-13, 00:56
Been seeing this girls for 3 months or so. We meet on weekends and have good time. Problem is, I have a job and no time Mon-Fri. She doesn't admit it but I know she is shagging another guy hehe.

Oh well, just curious. Is it even possible to stop her from doing that, or just let it go.

Thanks chaps.The best way to turn off a girl who's looking for just fun is to be controlling and possessive. Take the weekends for what they are and try to make some free time available to her after work M-F. No guarantee on this one, but you may try a reverse-psychology gambit where she figures out you're meeting other women, becomes jealous, and offers her exclusivity for yours. Of course she may just dump ya; there goes the weekend good times.

LukeSkywalker
08-22-13, 01:05
You ever heard of the stainless-steel chastity belt with razor blade booby traps inside the front and rear openings?


Been seeing this girls for 3 months or so. We meet on weekends and have good time. Problem is, I have a job and no time Mon-Fri. She doesn't admit it but I know she is shagging another guy hehe.

Oh well, just curious. Is it even possible to stop her from doing that, or just let it go.

Thanks chaps.

OnePackGuy
08-22-13, 01:14
Been seeing this girls for 3 months or so. We meet on weekends and have good time. Problem is, I have a job and no time Mon-Fri. She doesn't admit it but I know she is shagging another guy hehe.

Oh well, just curious. Is it even possible to stop her from doing that, or just let it go.

Thanks chaps.If she's shagging some other guy, why would you still want her? Perhaps if she's a looker (not a hooker) , and you want to keep her around, just use her for the weekends. I don't agree about making her jealous, as I wouldn't want to keep someone like that LT. Find someone else, and if you're the type that likes some sushi on the side, keep her. If not, drop her after the new love. You can't change those kind of habits or morals. But again, this is a mongering board, so lets keep morals out of the conversation!

FreebieFan
08-22-13, 01:43
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Got damn near 100 girls from Manila on my facebook just waiting for me to touch down. .Notwithstanding the fact that the same 100 girls all have 100 guys on their fb waiting for the selfsame 100 guys to touch down. Or did you think they were just waiting for you only? LOL.

CaliPro
08-22-13, 01:46
Notwithstanding the fact that the same 100 girls all have 100 guys on their fb waiting for the selfsame 100 guys to touch down. Or did you think they were just waiting for you only? LOL.What does that have to do with them coming to see me when I touch down? They are not my gf LOL

However if you want to get technical, I guarantee you I am plan A.

CaliPro
08-22-13, 01:50
Notwithstanding the fact that the same 100 girls all have 100 guys on their fb waiting for the selfsame 100 guys to touch down. Or did you think they were just waiting for you only? LOL.And by the way, I am still waiting for you to send me the facebook accounts and contact details of "your girls" that will "laugh" at me.

I would thoroughly love to post a video of me fucking everyone of them.

Pensomaru
08-22-13, 22:37
I am still waiting for you to send me the facebook accounts and contact details of "your girls" that will "laugh" at me.Can't imagine he has anything to gain from providing you that contact info. Assuming they are not pros then maybe they turn you down but wonder why he gave out their info and it causes problems for him.

Anyways everyone has their own style and his is to drop a few notes as they leave, yours is not.

Chocha Monger
08-23-13, 05:43
I returned to my favorite city, Manila. I just can't stay away from this mega-slum. Not even the mendicants, murderous thieves, floods on a Biblical scale, crooked cab drivers and scam artists can keep me away. People don't come here to live. They come here to fuck and die. None of them would admit it though. To celebrate my first day back in this fetid paradise I visited my favorite bar where I met a cute 19 yrs old spinner. We had some drinks and she acted all shy but sweet. She assured me that she would like to accompany me back to my place for the night.

We arrive at my den and this sweet thing turns all hardcore pro. She doesn't even want to relax and watch Flip soaps. She just wants to fuck! Well, as I come out the shower I notice she is buck ass naked wrapped in a towel taking pictures of herself in the mirror. Not a good sign. I realize that I took her out the bar way too early. It's barely 9 PM and she intends to pull a runner to do another session. Sure enough she starts changing her promised departure time. I realized that I would get nowhere trying hold her to the agreement. I had to act fast to salvage the night.

She is champing at the bit to get down to doing the nasty. I haven't fucked in months and my balls are backed up with a quart of cum but this hot little fuck meat is more eager than I am to initiate the pussy pounding. She laid back and spread eagled her tiny shaved peach. I got into position hocked spit on my pole and lubed it up. Then quicker than an Irishman's wink I ploughed into her pussy. She seemed shocked that I rammed it right in bareback! I guess some Manila mongers use condoms after all. Her little fuck hole was snug hot and wet. Her groaning, deep breaths, greedy sucking snatch and my backed up balls soon created a cataclysmic event. I grabbed her meager ass and started pumping deeper and deeper, faster and faster. I rammed my bastard maker into her womb and irrigated her cervix a hot flood of several months of potent sperm! I remained in place and let it marinate for a few minutes until I regained strength and withdrew. When I looked down there was this huge cream pie dangling in the entrance her small pink hole like an enormous white snot!

She asked me if I was finished. I told her yes. She reached down and grabbed a gob of glutinous baby batter from her pussy. She looked at it in awe as if admiring its consistency and color. She leapt up from the bed lecturing me on the dangers of bareback cream pies as she rapidly dressed. Apparently, it was her first bareback cream pie in pussy as she was allegedly only 3 months in the life after entering the life as a cherry girl. Anyway, she was having quite a meltdown about the sperm donation. She demanded my number and promised to call me to take custody of Little Chocha next year. She then vanished into the night dripping and in tears.

The second day I spent recovering from the first. I called a few dating site girls and not surprisingly quite a few of them turn out to be professional hoes. One said she was on the rag but would bring her friend and give me a good BJ for 3K each. Hahaha! I told her any monger paying 3K for a BJ in Manila needed to be taken out to a rice paddy and shot execution style. A couple others wanted to meet at their bar, their hometown on the outskirts of Manila (supposed good girl virgins 22 yrs and up) or on their ridiculous schedule. I rebuffed all their offers since what I was seeing on the ground was much much better. Things were looking to be disappointing but then that night the gods smiled. I ran into a smoking hot white skinned girl from that place where foreign mongers dare not go lest they lose their heads or come up with a rather large ransom. She refused any attempts at compensation and visited me before and after work to deliver free pussy anyway I liked it. So, I ended up banging one of those elusive beauties that appear on dating sites showing their location in Mindanao's restive areas. I always assumed that it was scammers behind all of those profiles as there could be no other explanation for the high number of fair skinned women that seem to be concentrated in those areas. I guess some of them ready do exist after all. I guess the danger keeps mongers from going there to save them and whisk them away to the West on a spousal visa. I wonder how her Muslim papa would react to an infidel putting pork in all his gorgeous daughter's orifices.

Later on, I visited a few secret venues in the Visayas as I went about business. During my time in Manila the IJM triggered a raid on Asian Entertainment Network by feeding 'information' to the NBI. This was a pricey joint catering mainly to Asians. Obviously, IJM has enough money and influence disrupt these bars if not put them out of business. I guess the campaign is not limited to AC bars.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/320406/news/metromanila/nbi-89-girls-rescued-23-nabbed-in-paranaque-raid

PeeMan
08-23-13, 08:24
Been seeing this girls for 3 months or so. We meet on weekends and have good time. Problem is, I have a job and no time Mon-Fri. She doesn't admit it but I know she is shagging another guy hehe.

Oh well, just curious. Is it even possible to stop her from doing that, or just let it go.

Thanks chaps.A slight change of perspective will help you cope with this better IMHO.

She is seeing a regular guy and she is cheating on him with you. You are the other guy. The lucky weekender.

Enjoy it while it lasts!

And then it will help you look even more matured with self restraint and composure with the other gals. They will see you as not being too desperate to get into their Bush because you get your fill secretly now and then.

Cheers

KiJang
08-23-13, 12:26
after trying firehouse on the first night, i went back and had a peep in at pit stop. 9pm on a weekday meant it was largely devoid of any punters. there were about 12 girls on stage and some of those sitting around approached me, and so did a couple who were making eyes at me from the stage. nothing here caught my fancy. so i went into cotton club. instant rapport with mamasan liberty and she recommended me 2 of her girls as best in bed. jr who was doing gro duties and rosalinda who was on stage. jr came over and was all over me. she has exotic features (mixed arab filipina).10/10 for gfe and enthusiasm (tongue in ear and hand on my crotch followed by frequent dfk). she was on the rag and told me to come back for her some other time. i took rosalinda who is about 5 feet tall, pretty smile and an amazing rack. genuine gfe, super cheerful, aggressive on top and the best bbbj ever (although jr came close on all those counts). as promised by mama, she was the best i've had. she didn't want to leave and stayed on till the morning (for st fee of 3500).

i took jr (jellyrose) on my return from island trips, and she was great in bed as promised, but not as nice as rosalinda. jr has a young kid, and she has worked in japan before. rosalinda is early 20's, no kids, tight and super clean pussy, and a heavenly rack coupled with a beautiful face and straight black long hair). went back to cotton club. mama liberty is an absolute delight and full of info on other punters habits expecially japs and arabs. we had a truckload of fun people watching. took rosalinda again on my last night. she seems to have latched on to me now using facebook and whatsapp, and i'm not complaining at all.

if you ever go to cc, and take rosalinda, treat her well and don't forget to tip the mama's. a couple of hundred in cold hard pesos is much more appreciated than a lady drink.

ps: i also had a girl from bullets & arrows. don't remember her name. she was tall, stunner with a tattoo under her right breast (side). nothing to write home about, and i didn't like her very much (seasoned pro and a bit crude)

KiJang
08-23-13, 12:43
Been seeing this girls for 3 months or so. We meet on weekends and have good time. Problem is, I have a job and no time Mon-Fri. She doesn't admit it but I know she is shagging another guy hehe.

Oh well, just curious. Is it even possible to stop her from doing that, or just let it go.

Thanks chaps.Buy her a burkha / abaya and send her to Saudi.

CaliPro
08-23-13, 16:18
Can't imagine he has anything to gain from providing you that contact info. Assuming they are not pros then maybe they turn you down but wonder why he gave out their info and it causes problems for him.

Anyways everyone has their own style and his is to drop a few notes as they leave, yours is not.The only thing he would be getting is a sextape of me fucking his girls that he claimed would laugh at me.

These girls panties would drop the moment they saw my pictures.

Put up or shut up as far as I'm concerned.

As to your last comment, your right. Everyone has different styles which is why I find it comical tools like FF feel the need to take shots at posters.

LukeSkywalker
08-23-13, 16:45
Chocha writes good trip reports that are informative but also funny and entertaining.

The question is What place where foreign mongers dare not go to get this elusive beauty?

Is it the Manila Bay Cafe in Ermita?


I returned to my favorite city, Manila.

I ran into a smoking hot white skinned girl from that place where foreign mongers dare not go lest they lose their heads or come up with a rather large ransom. She refused any attempts at compensation and visited me before and after work to deliver free pussy anyway I liked it. So, I ended up banging one of those elusive beauties that appear on dating sites showing their location in Mindanao's restive areas. I always assumed that it was scammers behind all of those profiles as there could be no other explanation for the high number of fair skinned women that seem to be concentrated in those areas. I guess some of them ready do exist after all. I guess the danger keeps mongers from going there to save them and whisk them away to the West on a spousal visa. I wonder how her Muslim papa would react to an infidel putting pork in all his gorgeous daughter's orifices. [/url]

Aerishman
08-23-13, 17:49
Thanks for all comments chaps.

Agree that can't change those kind of habits or morals. Ironic though, I kinda got to like this lady.

Oh well, I will have fun for as long as it lasts. And will look around for a replacement. Shouldn't be hard!

Cheers!


Been seeing this girls for 3 months or so. We meet on weekends and have good time. Problem is, I have a job and no time Mon-Fri. She doesn't admit it but I know she is shagging another guy hehe.

Oh well, just curious. Is it even possible to stop her from doing that, or just let it go.

Thanks chaps.

Nabradi
08-24-13, 04:59
Does anyone have experience with finding working ladies in Puerto Princessa (Palawan) I will be spending one or two nights there on my next trip. So far I came up with nothing.

Thanks for any help

Hutsori
08-24-13, 06:01
The question is What place where foreign mongers dare not go to get this elusive beauty?Tawi Tawi is one of the most dangerous places, but quite isolated, and of my very limited experience down south (Gen San and CDO) I don't recall seeing fair-skinned Muslims. The Spanish seed wasn't dispersed far and wide amongst the Mohammedans. Perhaps Zamboanga, which was the center of Spanish colonialism in the region.

LukeSkywalker
08-24-13, 15:10
He probably meant some place on Mindanao where Muslim insurgents have been known to kidnap foreigners, especially Americans, for ransoms.

There are no girls in this world worth risking your ass for.

I would stick with Manila where there are lots of beauties from all other islands.


Tawi Tawi is one of the most dangerous places, but quite isolated, and of my very limited experience down south (Gen San and CDO) I don't recall seeing fair-skinned Muslims. The Spanish seed wasn't dispersed far and wide amongst the Mohammedans. Perhaps Zamboanga, which was the center of Spanish colonialism in the region.

GoodEnough
08-24-13, 18:02
Tawi Tawi is one of the most dangerous places, but quite isolated, and of my very limited experience down south (Gen San and CDO) I don't recall seeing fair-skinned Muslims. The Spanish seed wasn't dispersed far and wide amongst the Mohammedans. Perhaps Zamboanga, which was the center of Spanish colonialism in the region.Actually Tawi-Tawi is reasonably calm and safe. Sulu, Basilan, and all of Lanao del Sur are much more dangerous. The problem with Tawi-Tawi is that it's got basically zero that would attract most foreigners.

GE

KiJang
08-24-13, 21:30
Does anyone have experience with finding working ladies in Puerto Princessa (Palawan) I will be spending one or two nights there on my next trip. So far I came up with nothing.

Thanks for any helpI was in PPS last week with my GF. We passed a few KTV joints to and from Kinabuch (great place to eat) and she suggested more than once we go in and have a look. She's a city bred Filipina, and I maintain that I'm not a "playa". Hence she wanted to show me the KTV girls. They are available for takeout if I understood right. I passed on the offer (wanted to get back to the hotel for obvious reasons).

My advice is try out these KTV's and also date sites (FC and DIA have PPS based ladies)

LevDog
08-24-13, 23:03
The only thing he would be getting is a sextape of me fucking his girls that he claimed would laugh at me.

These girls panties would drop the moment they saw my pictures.

Put up or shut up as far as I'm concerned.

As to your last comment, your right. Everyone has different styles which is why I find it comical tools like FF feel the need to take shots at posters.There are many contributors on this site that have valuable insight and make positive contributions, and then there are unfortunately a group who like to attack people.

I suggest you try out the Edsa Complex. At the very least you can have a beer and enjoy the eye candy. Most likely you will be disappointed with picking up one of the beauties for free, but you never know, there is always a chance. The girls prefer older men because money talks, but it is not impossible to get one to bite for a 20 something young man.

I first came to Manila when I was 25, and being the highly sexed young male I was, I learned that it was easier and dirt cheap to pay girls. I had limited time, usually came for a week and I wanted to do at least 2 girls a day. It was just much easier to pay. The price was right and both the girl and I were happy.

I am now 57, still highly sexed, still having at least 2 girls a day, but now I stay for 6 months. I am very choosy, only go out with 18-21 year olds, the same girls I was screwing over 30 years back.

It still is dirt cheap, I do have 2 regular girlfriends who of course I don't pay, but I am still highly sexed and enjoy the variety that this country has to offer. Have a great trip, I am sure you will have many great stories.

Soapy Smith
08-26-13, 05:55
I was in PPS last week with my GF. We passed a few KTV joints to and from Kinabuch (great place to eat) and she suggested more than once we go in and have a look. She's a city bred Filipina, and I maintain that I'm not a "playa". Hence she wanted to show me the KTV girls. They are available for takeout if I understood right. I passed on the offer (wanted to get back to the hotel for obvious reasons).

My advice is try out these KTV's and also date sites (FC and DIA have PPS based ladies) KJ is on the mark, but you would do better posing this question in the "Other Areas" thread. One that's easy to find is Phoenix KTV, on P. Abrea St. Near the airport. Cab drivers and tricycle drivers will know where it is.

FreebieFan
08-26-13, 07:58
These girls panties would drop the moment they saw my pictures.Doesn't have two centavos but sure has a wonderful sense of his own self worth.

We, ve all been young and handsome mate, now were mature and handsome, and have a a few more colours in our wallet than the two purples give to the girls.

As you haven't been long on ISG (50 posts about a trip you haven't yet made) you will not have seen some of the previous discussions concerning whether younger or older guys pull more.

No doubt you would have made a few wonderful " but I'm handsome and cool" posts.

Pot shot. Nah you ain't that deserving.

CaliPro
08-26-13, 08:15
There are many contributors on this site that have valuable insight and make positive contributions, and then there are unfortunately a group who like to attack people.

I suggest you try out the Edsa Complex. At the very least you can have a beer and enjoy the eye candy. Most likely you will be disappointed with picking up one of the beauties for free, but you never know, there is always a chance. The girls prefer older men because money talks, but it is not impossible to get one to bite for a 20 something young man.

I first came to Manila when I was 25, and being the highly sexed young male I was, I learned that it was easier and dirt cheap to pay girls. I had limited time, usually came for a week and I wanted to do at least 2 girls a day. It was just much easier to pay. The price was right and both the girl and I were happy.

I am now 57, still highly sexed, still having at least 2 girls a day, but now I stay for 6 months. I am very choosy, only go out with 18-21 year olds, the same girls I was screwing over 30 years back.

It still is dirt cheap, I do have 2 regular girlfriends who of course I don't pay, but I am still highly sexed and enjoy the variety that this country has to offer. Have a great trip, I am sure you will have many great stories.Yes, I seem to attract the bottom of the barrel posters like that.

Money talks all around the world. However I've found through my travels and many dealings with hookers, strippers, freelancers, etc they will generally make some time out of the week to hangout. Thats if they are attracted to you physically and like your personality. But like you said, if not, no harm in trying.

Which location has better looking girls, Edsa or Burgos?

I like my routine I got. Schedule a day date everyday, then a night date every other night. I like to go out and hunt alone as well. The thing I love about the Philippines is how cheap it is. I can invite a girl to the mall and just get an icecream and then head back to my hotel. And at night I can take a girl some place with 1 dollar beers!

Yea I can't wait for the trip. Nov 30 can't come quick enough. I was in Manila for just 4 days back in Feb and had an absolute blast. Banged really hot girls! Mind mind can't wrap my head around being there for almost 2 months. So many girls, so much partying!

CaliPro
08-26-13, 08:25
doesn't have two centavos but sure has a wonderful sense of his own self worth.

We, ve all been young and handsome mate, now were mature and handsome, and have a a few more colours in our wallet than the two purples give to the girls.

As you haven't been long on ISG (50 posts about a trip you haven't yet made) you will not have seen some of the previous discussions concerning whether younger or older guys pull more.

No doubt you would have made a few wonderful " but I'm handsome and cool" posts.

Pot shot. Nah you aint that deserving.LOL I just spent 12 months working in Korea with zero expenses beside food and internet bill. Gearing up for a 4 month long vacation to the Philippines and Colombia. But think what youd like. What ever makes you feel good about yourself.

I am happy that you are mature and handsome. Congratulations! I'm sorry I don't have an award to give you or anything.

Been on ISG since 2009-2010. Numerous trip reports, even one on Manila. All under my old handle of Tar Heel Bred.

Why would I give a shit about discussions of who pulls more? As I mentioned before, any western man not deformed can get all the pussy he wants in the Philippines.

The only thing I care about is ME and what I will and can do. Needless to say I am not worried about getting women, damn sure not in the Philippines.

Don't be a pussy, send me the dating profiles of your girls that will laugh at me. Would love to video tape me fucking them and post it on here with some funny captions and quotes of FreebieFan.

CaliPro
08-26-13, 08:29
Updated my Manila map. Focuses more heavily on Malate area.

Anyways if you have any suggestions for good clubs and bars or anything in general let me know.

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zW_noa9126aI.kampoQlaMeVE

Blu8096
08-26-13, 10:25
Hopefully I got the name correct.

The place is a cool looking club. Pretty good music but also pretty dam expensive. I have gone twice now.

A lot of Koreans hang there, young guys and girls. The place is kind of bullshit in my opinion.

The girls in there and especially the staff cater to the Korean boys. Can't touch any of the hot girls- they won't any make eye contact or say something when I approach them. The club is FUCKING FULL of bouncers that fuck up the place. They stand on the dance floor, in every walkway and just about every were. The are basically ass holes that tell you do not stand there move there and fuck up the dance floor. I am a pretty good looking American. 6' and 205. Lower 40s. I have approached a lot of the hotties and can not even get a hello. They are so fucking stuck up. In much better clubs like Republic I have no issue. But here it is Korean territory.

On the 2nd night I changed from my normal cool guy personality to my pissed off fuck you personality. I approached a smoking hot Korean girl smiled said hello. She was dancing a bit at the railing and I said to her this is good music- it is a new song from america, do you like it. The ***** (with a fucking cocky attitude) says I am Korean, I like Gangaum style it is the best. I said to her Oh, you are from such a little country- Korea is like a baby sister to the best and most powerful country where I am from. USA. It is number 1 country in the world! We are so much more powerful and popular than south Korea which is so small. Are you from North Korea? She had no idea what to do and just stood there and half way smiled and looked down. I did not get laid but I sure enjoyed my night of fucking with Korean stuck up bitches. On the dance floor I guess I got to close to 2 young Korean girls and they moved away like I smelled. I went to where they moved and said, sorry I know my dick is so big and not small like Koreans- please don't be scared. They left the floor.

I was pissed off at the stuck up attitude from some bitches acting like Koreans are the best and all should kiss their ass. I had to remind them the Americans don't take that shit. (for all the worrys about being PC. I have no reason to dislike another persons country and have no ill feelings about Korea. I just don't except being treated shitty)

Anyways, the place sucks once you see through the nice looks. I do not recommend it as a good place to pick up girls in my opinion. Go to a much better club like republic and don't waste your time at this place. Don't give then your business, spend your money somewhere better.

Hutsori
08-26-13, 11:11
Hopefully I got the name correct.

The place is a cool looking club. Pretty good music but also pretty dam expensive. I have gone twice now.

A lot of Koreans hang there, young guys and girls. The place is kind of bullshit in my opinion.Well actually it's ZZYZX, but close enough. Mostly true what you report. It's a good time if you bring a girl with you. The Pinays who hang out there are more approachable than the Kgirls, but Korean guys are their focu$, and Korean guys don't like "their women" (Korean or not) to be banging honkies.


On the 2nd night I changed from my normal cool guy personality to my pissed off fuck you personality.Since the first night sucked why did you bother going back? Kinda unproductive, don't ya think?

Blu8096
08-26-13, 11:23
the only thing he would be getting is a sextape of me fucking his girls that he claimed would laugh at me.

these girls panties would drop the moment they saw my pictures.

put up or shut up as far as i'm concerned.

as to your last comment, your right. everyone has different styles which is why i find it comical tools like ff feel the need to take shots at posters.calipro,

what the fuck are you talking about? really- i am not being mean just wonder what the fuck your thinking.

so this is what i see. you are young, handsome and have game. great for you if it was true, but unfortunately i doubt it. let me say why;

if this was true why would you spend all the little bit of money you have to come to the philippines? you should be able to pull mega hotties in california and save the few dollars you have. some of the hottiest girls ever live there. why come to a country where everybody and i mean everybody from fat to old gets laid all the time?

with about a days worth of work we all have tons of freebies and repeats forever. it is so easy even if you are bald and fat, you just have to be nice.

just makes no sense you are bragging about a trip you never took to a place everyone gets girls? fucking no sense at all!

i think the truth is your peepee is small and you are ugly. you cannot get a girl where you are so you talk big. the typical " no self esteem syndrome".

please relax and come to the philippines. if you are fat, bald, ugly, have a tiny peepee it dosen't matter. all can have sex here, you just need a bit of game or some small money. the pinas here are wonderful and only want some money to help them out or really just a nice guy. you also can have sex here, you do not need to pretend. i feel a bit sorry for you, but i am sure if you just be yourself you may even find a friend.

Blu8096
08-26-13, 11:35
Well actually it's ZZYZX, but close enough. Mostly true what you report. It's a good time if you bring a girl with you. The Pinays who hang out there are more approachable than the Kgirls, but Korean guys are their focu$, and Korean guys don't like "their women" (Korean or not) to be banging honkies.

Since the first night sucked why did you bother going back? Kinda unproductive, don't ya think?The Challenge, I don't like striking out all night. I wanted to get one of those hot Korean girls (I guess I will fuck the living shit out of the KTV girl next month in Daegu when I am there). Funny point, in Korea the girls can not wait to get face splattered by me. They go nuts for blue eyes and nice American dicks! But here they think they are so great because they look down on the Philippines and think they are so great.

Anyways,

Had to give it another try, that's when I sat back a bit and figured out what was going on. As you know getting laid is so easy here, I don't need it every day so I don't feel it was unproductive. I learned about the place and I enjoyed being a asshole to the stuck up Korean girls who think their asshole don't stink.

Ps. I went to MBC afterwards and banged out a twosome.

Wicked Roger
08-26-13, 13:30
CaliPro,

What the fuck are you talking about? Really- I am not being mean just wonder what the fuck your thinking.

So this is what I see. You are young, handsome and have game. Great for you if it was true, but unfortunately I doubt it. Let me say why;

Well said Blu. Many have said before (when he was then called Tar Heel Band) that not paying the girls is something you should not brag about in abundance as shows a lack of maturity, sensitivity and understanding of the pinay psyche. As was said many times before by many senior members including myself that some pinays are too shy to ask for cash many are ashamed) unless you take a bar girl which CaliPro can't afford given his recent FR outlining his budget for the 'visit'.

So they expect you to help their family etc with a contribution (and some families also expect it) even though it may not have been discussed up front. How many members have written that they discretely place the cash in the girls purse so they find it when they get home.

All this is ignored despite being mentioned many times by many members so perhaps you are correct Blu. His visit is fantasy and his boastful FRs are really just that as you said, the product perhaps of fertile imaginaton.

And if has no cash why would he be asking in Colombia (Medellin) about real estate links. Odd.

CaliPro
08-26-13, 14:53
calipro,

what the fuck are you talking about? really- i am not being mean just wonder what the fuck your thinking.it is quite simple. ff was hating on me for being cheap and saying his "girls" would laugh at me. i told him to put his claim to the test and give me some contact details so i could fuck them and film it then post it on here making him look ignorant.


so this is what i see. you are young, handsome and have game. great for you if it was true, but unfortunately i doubt it. let me say why;

if this was true why would you spend all the little bit of money you have to come to the philippines? you should be able to pull mega hotties in california and save the few dollars you have. some of the hottiest girls ever live there. why come to a country where everybody and i mean everybody from fat to old gets laid all the time?i am in no way attracted to american / western women. beside the fact i like exotic women (latin and asian) , american women have the "princess" syndrome. on top of that, i like easy pussy and not having to work or spend money to get laid. you can't message a girl online in america and be fucking her in under 2 hours. just doesn't go down like that.


with about a days worth of work we all have tons of freebies and repeats forever. it is so easy even if you are bald and fat, you just have to be nice.philippines is the easiest place in the world to get laid. anyone that is not severely deformed can be swimming in pussy within a week. all free. i've said this numerous times.


just makes no sense you are bragging about a trip you never took to a place everyone gets girls? fucking no sense at all!i've already been to the philippines. went in feb. check my report under my old handle tar heel bred.

you obviously haven't followed any of the initial exchanges between me and ff. i was in no way bragging and it was in complete response to ff's hatting and attacking comments about how cheap i am and how i wouldn't get girls etc. you need to make sure you have all the info before posting.


i think the truth is your peepee is small and you are ugly. you cannot get a girl where you are so you talk big. the typical " no self esteem syndrome".i'll be in the philippines in 3 months. you can see for yourself how i look. it def isn't what you described.


please relax and come to the philippines. if you are fat, bald, ugly, have a tiny peepee it dosen't matter. all can have sex here, you just need a bit of game or some small money. the pinas here are wonderful and only want some money to help them out or really just a nice guy. you also can have sex here, you do not need to pretend. i feel a bit sorry for you, but i am sure if you just be yourself you may even find a friend.i will not relax when dealing with posters like ff. you don't even need game or money in the philippines. girls will fuck you for the hope of a return on investment.

i feel sorry for myself. *sarcasm*.

CaliPro
08-26-13, 15:18
The Challenge, I don't like striking out all night. I wanted to get one of those hot Korean girls (I guess I will fuck the living shit out of the KTV girl next month in Daegu when I am there). Funny point, in Korea the girls can not wait to get face splattered by me. They go nuts for blue eyes and nice American dicks! But here they think they are so great because they look down on the Philippines and think they are so great.

Anyways,

Had to give it another try, that's when I sat back a bit and figured out what was going on. As you know getting laid is so easy here, I don't need it every day so I don't feel it was unproductive. I learned about the place and I enjoyed being a asshole to the stuck up Korean girls who think their asshole don't stink.

Ps. I went to MBC afterwards and banged out a twosome.You live in Korea and thought you would get a Korean to so much as talk to you at the club?

I live in Suwon, South Korea. It only takes one week in the country to release they are one of the most xenophobic societies on earth. Being anything but full blooded Korean is a negative and looked down upon. On top of that they are insanely materialistic, vane, stuck up, and immature. Korean girls repulse me. They are hot however and I enjoy fucking them. But outside of doing the dirty I don't want to spend any time around a Korean girl.

Where do you go in Korea in which Korean girls go crazy for American dicks? Please tell me the name of the club or bar so I can check it out. Those girls make up a small minority in Korea.

MisterO
08-26-13, 19:04
I'll be in the Philippines next month. Just curious on opinions on the best nightcubs to go to? Not necessarily to bring a working girl home, but to have fun and dance with the possible hook up. I'm actually a Filipino from the US, but I don't speak Tagalog. Planning on spending a few days in Malate and Makati. Clubs I've heard about:

Malate.

-Insomnia.

-Zzyzx.

-Socialista.

Makati.

-Club Havana.

-Palladium.

Now are they happening every night? Or best to go on the weekends only?

Any other recommendations will be appreciated as well.

Will be sure to post my reports after my experience!

Dkooau
08-26-13, 20:11
Is shangri-la girl friendly?

Wicked Roger
08-26-13, 21:52
Girls will fuck you for the hope of a return on investment.

I feel sorry for myself. *sarcasm.Please refer to my earlier FR (just below). The above comment clearly shows you are aware that the pinays need some contribution and you don't care, are therefore disrespectful and based on your earlier FR a "cheap charlie". So why flame FF for saying what you have said alrady in an earlier FR?

This is what gives mongers a bad name in any country. At least most of us on this board are decent (well in one way at least) and recognize that the shyness of the girl hides a basic need. You clearly know this as the above comment proves, but you exploit it and then boast about it. Something I would not be proud of.

Remind me to visit Suwon and get you to do some work for me, hard grind stuff and then I will say thanks and send you home with no cash / nothing to show for it. See how you like it when you are in need of even a small amount of cash for a bag of rice.

Blu and others are spot on.

Member #4643
08-26-13, 21:55
Is shangri-la girl friendly?Very girl friendly. At those prices, they have to be. My experience was excellent.

Member #4698
08-26-13, 22:26
Is shangri-la girl friendly?Yes, but no. I found when I was checking out the Shangri-la on Agoda that there was a $35 difference per night in the quote for a one person vs. for a two person reservation. I did not think that was too friendly. In the past, I have always stayed at the New World Makati. It's not quite Shangri-la level, but for around $100 / night for two people, it will do nicely. Then I was looking around for a Makati hotel to stay at over Easter 2014 and I came across a deal on Travelocity for the Fairmont Hotel. A deluxe king corner room. 80 sq meters. 2 people for 6800p. Expensive yes, but I could not resist the space. Party time!

p.s. Intercontinental is offering rooms over Easter for $104/night. I gather it will be quiet in Makati over the holiday, but I was in AC last Easter and everything was pretty good girl wise/bar wise. SM Mall closed down, but who cares? I expect Burgos to be pretty good too. Heathens and bar girls are made for each other. Any of you guys ever been in Makati over Easter? In the off chance that I am wrong about the bars, I can always bring my own gfe from Subic. She would love a holiday weekend in the big mango.

OnePackGuy
08-27-13, 00:33
Yes, but no. I found when I was checking out the Shangri-la on Agoda that there was a $35 difference per night in the quote for a one person vs. For a two person reservation. I did not think that was too friendly. In the past, I have always stayed at the New World Makati. It's not quite Shangri-la level, but for around $100 / night for two people, it will do nicely. Then I was looking around for a Makati hotel to stay at over Easter 2014 and I came across a deal on Travelocity for the Fairmont Hotel. A deluxe king corner room. 80 sq meters. 2 people for 6800p. Expensive yes, but I could not resist the space. Party time!

P. S. Intercontinental is offering rooms over Easter for $104 / night. I gather it will be quiet in Makati over the holiday, but I was in AC last Easter and everything was pretty good girl wise / bar wise. SM Mall closed down, but who cares? I expect Burgos to be pretty good too. Heathens and bar girls are made for each other. Any of you guys ever been in Makati over Easter? In the off chance that I am wrong about the bars, I can always bring my own GFE from Subic. She would love a holiday weekend in the big mango.I've stayed at the Fairmont before, and for those who value a good and spacious gym, this hotel is very nice. Price has been similar, but I have a corporate discount which puts it at a bit less than you.

Redman69
08-27-13, 01:23
Will be coming to Manila in the next few weeks. I am wondering if the guys who have been landing is the last week are gettting the new 30 day visa or the old 21 day visa? Thanks RED

Fast Eddie 48
08-27-13, 07:41
Will be coming to Manila in the next few weeks. I am wondering if the guys who have been landing is the last week are gettting the new 30 day visa or the old 21 day visa? Thanks REDTo Redman,

I always get my US passport stamp on arrival didn't hear any thing will change, it been free 30 days stay for a long time. If the PI goverment start charging, no one will come to this shit hole of a country.

Fast Eddie 48

Psychman
08-27-13, 22:35
To Redman,

I always get my US passport stamp on arrival didn't hear any thing will change, it been free 30 days stay for a long time. If the PI goverment start charging, no one will come to this shit hole of a country.

Fast Eddie 48My most recent, in April, as 21 days. Same as my last year stamp.

Mbsl65
08-27-13, 22:52
It is 30 days now. I just got stamped Entry 27 Aug, Exit 26 Sept.


My most recent, in April, as 21 days. Same as my last year stamp.

LukeSkywalker
08-28-13, 00:46
The islands all look sparse, Phil, Japan, Taiwan, UK, Ireland. But the Phil is probably the worst polluted.

The streets in Manila are very dusty and smoky, reeking of fresh sewage like shit.

With all untreated sewage in Manila dumped into the bay, Manila bay, near Ermita and the US embassy, smells just like an out house. Damn. Anyone swimming in that bay would probably has all his flesh rotted out and dropped off his bones.

I have never smell any beaches that smell that bad. Shit! The bay down further South near the airport and Mall of Asia smells a lot cleaner.

Why cant they skip a few other infrastructure investments and build a sewage treatment plant for Manila? Cant be that expensive.

BTW HONG KONG, Venice ect. All smell like sewage. Damn.

However, my Pinay honeys are all clean and smell good. That's why I keep coming back to Manila.


To Redman,

I always get my US passport stamp on arrival didn't hear any thing will change, it been free 30 days stay for a long time. If the PI goverment start charging, no one will come to this shit hole of a country.

Fast Eddie 48

CaliPro
08-28-13, 01:22
What do we do if we are staying longer than 30 days? I'll be in Phi for 50 days. Will I need to extend my visa mid trip or just handle it at the airport when I leave? How much will it cost me?

Robbaf
08-28-13, 02:04
Been seeing this girls for 3 months or so. We meet on weekends and have good time. Problem is, I have a job and no time Mon-Fri. She doesn't admit it but I know she is shagging another guy hehe.

Oh well, just curious. Is it even possible to stop her from doing that, or just let it go.

Thanks chaps.IMHO most girls are fucking other guys unless, you are living with her, taking care of her financial needs and giving her your undivided attention. She may be thinking the reason you cannot see her Mon-Fri is you are fucking someone else.

A lot of the girls have Filipino boyfriends and will date foreigners for the money. Supporting their Filipino boyfriend.

Robb

Robbaf
08-28-13, 02:18
Is Firehouse the best joint in EDSA? By best I mean 1) Number of hot girls 2) Fun atmosphere.

How much would it cost me to go in and get numbers from a girl or two? I am 27 and don't usually pay for sex, so I would just be trying to get them when they are off work on a date or something. Seems like it might be tricky talking to the girls and getting their number without buying lady drinks etc. I guess I could buy 1 or 2 if need be for a stunner.

I'll be in Manila in November and will mostly stick to online game and night game to get girls. With a few plucked from daygame at the malls. But wouldn't mind checking out EDSA once or twice to see what I can catch.I am happy to hear you don't pay for sex. You may need your money to get out of a setup or scam.

My last trip (June) EDSA bar share was 1950P and the girl wanted 5000P. I took one from Casino my first night (3 am) and went back to the Heritage and had one round, went to sleep and she woke me up at 8am asking to go. While she got dressed I opened the safe and grabbed 2000P and she went off. Asking for 5000P. I told her no way and gave her another 500P. Next night went back into EDSA, walked into Casino and she grabbed me. I laughed and told her she lost her chance to go again and I took another girl and gave her 2000P. She was very GFE and I took her again the next night. In the room she said the girls ask her what I gave her and she told them 2000P, she said they told her to ask for 5000P. She told me she told them why? I treated her well, feed her breakfast and was coming back to get her another night.

Robb

Wicked Roger
08-28-13, 02:39
IMHO most girls are fucking other guys unless, you are living with her, taking care of her financial needs and giving her your undivided attention. She may be thinking the reason you cannot see her Mon-Fri is you are fucking someone else.

A lot of the girls have Filipino boyfriends and will date foreigners for the money. Supporting their Filipino boyfriend.

RobbGood to see you back Robbaf been a while.

Even if you are living with them they can still be doing the business with the pinoy. A mate found this out after he married one and also found out he was not the boyfriend but the pinoy husband!

Another is loyal to her Aussie man while he is with but as soon as he is inside the airport departure lounge she asks me "sweety can I see you".

So get used to it and maybe have a kinky open mind and enjoy it LOL.

Econo Tech
08-28-13, 02:40
IMHO most girls are fucking other guys unless, you are living with her, taking care of her financial needs and giving her your undivided attention. She may be thinking the reason you cannot see her Mon-Fri is you are fucking someone else.

A lot of the girls have Filipino boyfriends and will date foreigners for the money. Supporting their Filipino boyfriend.

RobbWell, don't be so harsh.

Pinays need a lot of love, a lot and lot of love. So if you can't give it fully, they will find somebody to give it.

Ever been in a GB with a pinoy guy? Once, when it happened in SG, for half the screwing the other couple was doing, the other half was love talk and sweet nothings. And romance of the top kind.

And the girl my friend was screwing did have a Brit bf! She just joined in the fun, as she felt lonely and her bf is always traveling. And she wanted to 'feel like at home' with a pinoy guy. And who else can be so romantic as a Pinoy guy? You can buy a girl wiht money, but try matching a pinoy guy's love talks? Ever wonder why even the most broke pinoy guy can get girls pregnant? It's not about $, its' about love. And a lot of love.

Econo Tech
08-28-13, 02:40
Is shangri-la girl friendly?Yes, GF, but if you bring in a non-working girl, she may be a bit embarrassed as they may ask to register her.

Hutsori
08-28-13, 05:33
What do we do if we are staying longer than 30 days? I'll be in Phi for 50 days. Will I need to extend my visa mid trip or just handle it at the airport when I leave? How much will it cost me?An excellent question that can be easily answered by google. Yes, you can extend your visa at an immigration office nearest you. The one in Makati processes it in a few hours. Visit the Immigration Department's website for all the details and locations.

Redman69
08-28-13, 21:59
Thanks guys. I will need a opened ended ticket. As I am picking up my stash to bring back here to the states. I know you need a return ticket. So I will get a 28 day stay. Knowing I will change the departure date when she has her visa. Thanks again. RED

CookieDude
08-28-13, 22:36
Will be visiting Manila for the first time and hence looking for advice from experts here!

1. Girl friendly hotels. Company is paying so will stay either at Dusit Thani or New World. Are these certifiably girl friendly? I'm assuming they'll ask to register etc but hopefully won't refuse.

2. Been doing bit of research, reading TFF etc. Seems EDSA and MBC are the 2 best places around Makati for picking up girls. Any alternatives? Where do "non-professional" girls hang out?

3. Barfines seem to be around 1500 and LT 'tips' around 4-5k. Is that about right? Don't want to spoil the market by overpaying and I'm not a Japanese businessman anyway!

IM Punter
08-29-13, 03:13
Finally, after a year and a half since my last visit to the Philippines, I am coming back (in late November). I plan on starting off in Manila and who knows after that. Last time I was there (spring 2012) I posted some reports about my experiences in Makati and Manila. Then, MBC and outside Starbucks / Havana were good places to meet someone. MBC seemed more like professional full time working girls and the girl I met outside Starbucks seemed more like an amateur (which is my preference). As I recall, I paid 2000 for a ST with the Starbucks girl and I can't remember how much for the MBC girls. I'll have to go through the posts here to see what the current rates are. I don't want to overpay. I read a post here where someone was quoted 5000p for a LT. That's a bit much. Anyway, I am glad to be coming back, now I can read the Phil forums without getting jealous.

I see another poster asked about girl friendly hotels in Makati. I'll be checking the posts about that as well. I can't decide if I should book at hotel in Makati (ie. Oxford suites) or in Malate / ermitai (I think last time I was in City Garden not far from MBC).

I'll try and get as much info from recent postings as I can, but I may be back with some questions.

Ideally, I'd like to meet some semi pros or non pros who would like to be my guide and dining companion and then spend some LT action at my hotel. Sort of like a temporary gf. Any ideas would be welcome.

I'll be paying my ISG membership again soon so I'll be able to send and receive IMs.

Geez, its good to be thinking of coming back.

Fast Eddie 48
08-29-13, 06:55
What do we do if we are staying longer than 30 days? I'll be in Phi for 50 days. Will I need to extend my visa mid trip or just handle it at the airport when I leave? How much will it cost me?To Calipro

Don't reget you be staying longer in PI 30 days in Manila Jail for taking advantage of all the poor girls you think you can bang for free keep dreaming you donkey.

Fast Eddie 48

Pip Jaeger
08-29-13, 09:15
What do we do if we are staying longer than 30 days? I'll be in Phi for 50 days. Will I need to extend my visa mid trip or just handle it at the airport when I leave? How much will it cost me?You can get a 59 day visa at MNL airport when you arrive. It only takes a few minutes and costs about 2, 600p (so start saving now, LOL). You need to have cash (pesos) to pay for it before you enter the country as the forex is on the other side of the immigration and customs booths in the airport's lobby. Detailed instructions about the process for getting the visa can be found by RTTF.

X Man
08-29-13, 11:56
A US$50 and a $20 would be enough. They would prefer a benjamin. They know where the forex is.


You can get a 59 day visa at MNL airport when you arrive. It only takes a few minutes and costs about 2, 600p (so start saving now, LOL). You need to have cash (pesos) to pay for it before you enter the country as the forex is on the other side of the immigration and customs booths in the airport's lobby. Detailed instructions about the process for getting the visa can be found by RTTF.

CaliPro
08-29-13, 14:45
You can get a 59 day visa at MNL airport when you arrive. It only takes a few minutes and costs about 2, 600p (so start saving now, LOL). You need to have cash (pesos) to pay for it before you enter the country as the forex is on the other side of the immigration and customs booths in the airport's lobby. Detailed instructions about the process for getting the visa can be found by RTTF.Don't have that much pesos left from last trip. Only Korean & US money. I'll figure something out.

Pip Jaeger
08-29-13, 15:05
A US$50 and a $20 would be enough. They would prefer a benjamin. They know where the forex is.Earlier this year when I got mine I was told peso's only, fortunately I had enough on me from prior trip so I had no problem. But, I arrived around 10pm so maybe that's why and perhaps they've changed policy? Anyhow, point is you can get the visa extension right at the airport, fast and easy; no hassles or extra costs with an outside agent or wasting time by going yourself to a BCI office.

Paulr1950
08-29-13, 19:20
Earlier this year when I got mine I was told peso's only, fortunately I had enough on me from prior trip so I had no problem. But, I arrived around 10pm so maybe that's why and perhaps they've changed policy? Anyhow, point is you can get the visa extension right at the airport, fast and easy; no hassles or extra costs with an outside agent or wasting time by going yourself to a BCI office.They let you go and change money as they have let me when I have not enough.

Inlock
08-29-13, 23:32
I'll be in the Philippines next month. Just curious on opinions on the best nightcubs to go to? Not necessarily to bring a working girl home, but to have fun and dance with the possible hook up. I'm actually a Filipino from the US, but I don't speak Tagalog. Planning on spending a few days in Malate and Makati. Clubs I've heard about:

Malate.

-Insomnia.

-Zzyzx.

-Socialista.Socialista is not called Socialista anymore.

I think it was closed for a period in the beginning of this year, and now reopened with a new name. Which I can't remember.

I passed there several times in June, and no matter what day of the week it was, the place was as good as empty.

No more local teen girls hitting on the young Korean guys the way it happened in the haydays of Socialista.

Slippery
08-30-13, 01:32
Yes, it was closed I also don't remember the name of the new establishment. I do recall though that the rent asked for during its vacancy seemed quite excessive so I really don't know if the new people will be able to make a go of it

Dkooau
08-30-13, 04:00
Has anyone used LUX Manila escort?

Can you recommenced some one there.

One other thing. Anyone knows where I can find high class European escorts there? Couldn't seems to find any information about them online

Cool Traveler
08-30-13, 18:53
Will be visiting Manila for the first time and hence looking for advice from experts here!

1. Girl friendly hotels. Company is paying so will stay either at Dusit Thani or New World. Are these certifiably girl friendly? I'm assuming they'll ask to register etc but hopefully won't refuse.

They are both girl friendly. And both have good security system in place. In the late evenings, they will ask to register visitors. This is a good thing. And when your "guests" leave, they will call you from downstairs, if everything is ok, before letting go of the girl. So, be prepared for the phone to ring 2 minutes after they depart your room.

Dusit is at one end of Greenbelt. Sort of a 10 to 15 minute walk through Robinsons Mall to Havana.

New World is right across from Havana.

2. Been doing bit of research, reading TFF etc. Seems EDSA and MBC are the 2 best places around Makati for picking up girls. Any alternatives? Where do "non-professional" girls hang out?

MBC is a 30 minute taxi ride from these two hotels. And EDSA at the other end.

3. Barfines seem to be around 1500 and LT 'tips' around 4-5k. Is that about right? Don't want to spoil the market by overpaying and I'm not a Japanese businessman anyway!Please be cordial. No need to pick on a group of people because they are from a different country. Be compassionate, kind and tolerant.

Tally Wacker
08-31-13, 06:19
One other thing. Anyone knows where I can find high class European escorts there? Couldn't seems to find any information about them onlineReading a few posts back you have been looking for European girls in the Philippines, Caucasian girls in Singapore and Indian girls in Melborne. Haha thought that was kinda humorus. That's like going out for Mexican food and hoping they have a good Chinese dish on the menu. You won't find great food in the Philippines but you will find sexy Filipinas.

Wicked Roger
08-31-13, 11:02
Please be cordial. No need to pick on a group of people because they are from a different country. Be compassionate, kind and tolerant.CT,

Do you mean CD being nice to others or members being nice to someone who should RTFF? Always a mix of the above (that's why am called Compassionate Roger by some LOL) but RTFF CD would certainly answer all your concerns. I did a 2 minute search and found most of what I needed to reply to your FR so suggest that is the first port of call.

IM Punter
08-31-13, 13:06
I am now 57, still highly sexed, still having at least 2 girls a day, but now I stay for 6 months. I am very choosy, only go out with 18-21 year olds, the same girls I was screwing over 30 years back.

It still is dirt cheap, I do have 2 regular girlfriends who of course I don't pay, but I am still highly sexed and enjoy the variety that this country has to offer. Have a great trip, I am sure you will have many great stories.In a previous post I mentioned I am coming back to Manila at the end of November. It will be my second visit. My first visit I was quite happy with the results and for a beginner, I think I did well.

Although I suspect that I'd get more mileage and pleasure from older women, just for the bucket list, though, I'd like to hook up with 1 or more 18-21 year old girl (s). I don't recall seeing any at MBC and Havana on my last trip, or if I did, they hid from me (I. M 50's, not quite bald, not quite fat). Where is the best place to find these girls. I am not a late night club goer.

I guess I still have a lot to learn about mongering in the phils.

As usual, I am always grateful to learn from those who have plowed this ground before me.

CaliPro
08-31-13, 14:34
I am a bit concerned with how I am going to juggle / manage all the girls I have pipelined online and going out hunting solo. Have a little less than 3 months until my trip and I have around 300 girls on my facebook which I just lightly trimmed recently. I will trim this down considerably more before the trip. I will be in Manila, Cebu, Dumaguete for around 17 nights each. So I want to have city rosters of about 20 girls each. Will put the girls in a spreadsheet and average out their face and body ratings to see you makes the cut. On top of that, I will be going to MBC to pre-game and flirt with waitresses every night. Also rotate night dates and solo hunting trips at some of the clubs in Malate (Insomnia, Zzxyz). I have a feeling girls will want to see me the next night which won't be happening unless they are slamming and were amazing in the sack. Might have to write a book on Pinay Management after my trip! LOL

Fuck, end of November can't get here soon enough!

Pip Jaeger
08-31-13, 20:15
I'd like to hook up with 1 or more 18-21 year old girl (s). I don't recall seeing any at MBC and Havana on my last trip, or if I did, they hid from me. Where is the best place to find these girls. I am not a late night club goer.Try some of the dating websites like DIA, plenty of 18-21 year olds on there to be had. Just be honest and clear about what you seek (without being rude). Plenty of info about using dating sites already posted here on the board; so as the saying goes: "RTFF". Just expect a no show rate of about 80% as a lot of them like to play games, won't be available when you want them, initially say yes just to be polite, won't answer your text message when you get there (usually it's because they have no load. So if it's a real hottie and you got to have her, then find out before you go what cell service she uses and you can send her a 20-25p load) or are just looking for a free lunch, pics with new "foreign bf" to show all her friends and post on FB, LOL.

As you already discovered on your last trip, you can also interview the massage girls on Burgos until you find one within your desired age bracket and who will provide a very happy ending. Of course there's also the bar girls on Burgos if they are within your budget.

BTW, you ever get any photo editing software. Still waiting to see pics of the lady who got your PI cherry, LOL (or did I miss the pics when I glanced through your prior posts?).

Pip Jaeger
08-31-13, 20:28
I am a bit concerned with how I am going to juggle / manage all the girls I have pipelined onlineI presume you meant keeping track of contact info and not scheduling meet ups? I also presume you'll be traveling with a laptop? Try using MS "OneNote", it adds a button to your task bar and when you click on it, it takes a "screen shot" of the webpage your on (like DIA, FB, etc.). Then you can add info to it (like phone numbers exchanged in chat or personal notes) and add tags (generic and user defined) for quickly searching through them later. For example, you can set up a rating system and only search for girls that you've given a certain tag to; or add a "bi-sexual" tag (that one's user defined, of course, lol) and then search just for them. For street / club hookups, you can set up a blank page, load a photo from your cell phone or camera and add notes / tags as needed.

More was written about using OneNote in the past, search the forum and you'll find it.

IM Punter
08-31-13, 22:23
try some of the dating websites like dia, plenty of 18-21 year olds on there to be had. just be honest and clear about what you seek (without being rude).thanks for the reply pip.

i guess something like "old fat fart with small [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) wants to meet sweet lady thing for a night of good sex" might be a little to honest. lol but seriously, how do i broach the fact that i am looking for a couple of one nighters.


you can also interview the massage girls on burgosthere were a lot of cute ones there, thats for sure. i wondered how many might actually be interested in a fl gig. wouldn't the other girls rat her out if one chose to make an arrangement outside of work?


btw, you ever get any photo editing software. still waiting to see pics of the lady who got your pi cherry, lol (or did i miss the pics when i glanced through your prior posts?).when i got home i did mask out her eyes and her bracelet but it turned out to make her look a little weird and it didn't do her pretty face justice. of course, novice that i am, i overwrote the original pic with the modified one and i had deleted it from my iphone so my girlfriend here in the us wouldn't come across it. anyway, here it is, but she looks a lot prettier than my attempts picture editing made it.

i tried to text her from chikka a few days ago, but no reply so i guess she doesn't have that number anymore. i had ignored her after she started sending me texts for money (hony i'm ver sic) , and now wish i had stayed in touch for my return.

CookieDude
09-01-13, 00:44
Please be cordial. No need to pick on a group of people because they are from a different country. Be compassionate, kind and tolerant.My apologies! Not my intent to pick on anyone nor do I have any experience with this particular group of people. Honestly is all heresay anyway in my case as I read lot of posts about this kind of money being thrown around here in this forum.

CookieDude
09-01-13, 00:49
CT,

Do you mean CD being nice to others or members being nice to someone who should RTFF? Always a mix of the above (that's why am called Compassionate Roger by some LOL) but RTFF CD would certainly answer all your concerns. I did a 2 minute search and found most of what I needed to reply to your FR so suggest that is the first port of call.I agree Roger, there's more than enough information here. Problem is the consistency. Folks have all sort of experiences and just wanted to cross verify. I did spend good amount of time not only on this forum but trying to generally brush up on google as well.

BTW, anyone used pinaywalks?

Slippery
09-01-13, 00:55
Cali, have you ever seen an MBC waitress? Obviously not. The thought of flirting with one of them is enough to keep me out of there for the rest of 2013.

MangoBob68
09-01-13, 01:03
To Calipro

Don't reget you be staying longer in PI 30 days in Manila Jail for taking advantage of all the poor girls you think you can bang for free keep dreaming you donkey.

Fast Eddie 48I'm returning to Philippines and side trip to China were I use to work and live for 4 years. Anyway. I been reading the last 3 day reports. Maybe times have past me by fast.

BUT REALLY! 5000 pesos = over $100 uds. OMG 2500 short time. Bar fine 1500 plus paying the girl!

The guys coming to PI must have gotten some great pay raises. Or write off as expenses for tax purposes.

There is absolutely no reason to ever pay any Filipina 5000 pesos unless she living with you for 5 to 7 days.

Like most guys here know stick to the non pro / the girl who wants to enjoy and be treated well and take her to buy a new pair of jeans / top. Mp3. Give her money to buy time for her smart card.

The most I ever paid for short time was 1000 pesos and I read reports of guys getting threesome for 500 each for a few hours.

These are student. Older woman who tired of being cheated over and over, mothers with one or two or three kids who need some foods money.

No! These are not stunners. Hot sexy chics. But they can suck you good and spread their legs with the best of them.

Just don't be so eager to pay that kind of money. Those girls who ask for 5000 probably only get one fuck a month at that rate! Unless they hang with Japanes.

CaliPro
09-01-13, 02:25
Cali, have you ever seen an MBC waitress? Obviously not. The thought of flirting with one of them is enough to keep me out of there for the rest of 2013.Of course, stopped into MBC every night on my last trip. I was going to post a picture of her but thought against it as she is not a hooker and is a friend.

You do realize there are 2-3 shifts with girls on short contracts? Girls are coming and leaving all the time.

AlLostInSpace13
09-01-13, 02:44
Cali, have you ever seen an MBC waitress? Obviously not. The thought of flirting with one of them is enough to keep me out of there for the rest of 2013.I think he meant the shooter girls. They are cute.

LevDog
09-01-13, 10:14
Try some of the dating websites like DIA, plenty of 18-21 year olds on there to be had. Just be honest and clear about what you seek (without being rude). Plenty of info about using dating sites already posted here on the board; so as the saying goes: "RTFF". Just expect a no show rate of about 80% as a lot of them like to play games, won't be available when you want them, initially say yes just to be polite, won't answer your text message when you get there (usually it's because they have no load. So if it's a real hottie and you got to have her, then find out before you go what cell service she uses and you can send her a 20-25p load) or are just looking for a free lunch, pics with new "foreign bf" to show all her friends and post on FB, LOL.

As you already discovered on your last trip, you can also interview the massage girls on Burgos until you find one within your desired age bracket and who will provide a very happy ending. Of course there's also the bar girls on Burgos if they are within your budget.

BTW, you ever get any photo editing software. Still waiting to see pics of the lady who got your PI cherry, LOL (or did I miss the pics when I glanced through your prior posts?).Accurate description of what actually happens once you start contacting the girls here. Just would like to add, the girls are not worried about guys who are slightly overweight or balding. They concentrate on your nose and the color of your eyes. If you have hazel, brown or blue eyes and a non-Asian nose then you are a handsome man.

MangoBob68
09-01-13, 19:41
I concur 100%. I was surprised how so many girls said they "like" my nose. I think they are imagining how my nose would entertain their pussy beside using the tongue.

I like to add one more observation. They love a good smile. That scores points.

So yes, over weight. Balding. Average face is fine as long as you treat them nice + smile + having a long nose helps + plus the obvious other big item.

BrainDrain
09-02-13, 17:12
Yes, GF, but if you bring in a non-working girl, she may be a bit embarrassed as they may ask to register her.I had two overnighters to SHangri-la in May. One I just rang reception and asked that they send her up.

The next girl I met at Starbucks and gave her my spare roo key. She followed me into the hotel about 10 metres behind me.

In both cases, no registration was required.

I miss that place!

CaliPro
09-03-13, 16:39
So, I am trying to trim a list down from 100+ down to 10 for my upcoming trip.

Had to go get some redbull and a pen and paper. Shit is hard as hell to try and pick between so many girls.

Can't stress this enough. Index girls from the start in a very detailed manner. Face & body ratings. How DTF she appears. Etc.

Bumz Rush
09-04-13, 09:08
They like western noses, as they are "Roman" or strong, not short like they have.

They like your eyes to be blue too.

The reason is that then their (sorry, your) kids can have blue eyes, large noses.

Bumz

Hutsori
09-04-13, 13:32
So, I am trying to trim a list down from 100+ down to 10 for my upcoming trip.

Had to go get some redbull and a pen and paper. Shit is hard as hell to try and pick between so many girls.

Can't stress this enough. Index girls from the start in a very detailed manner. Face & body ratings. How DTF she appears. Etc.No offense m8, but you're counting your chickens not before they've been hatched, but before they've even been laid. You're coming here in 3 months; a lot will happen from now til then. If they are as hot as you claim be assured you are one of several dozen guys each is corresponding with,"friending", planning meetings, yada yada. At this time to her you're just a whim sitting thousands of miles away.

You'll be hitting ground at the start of high season when many of their other guys shall arrive too. And of course hot girls here are being be pursued by guys here presently.

I wouldn't trim anything at this time; I'd being doing the opposite, continue to sustain the "relationships" you've found for yourself, and add to that list. Then just before you arrive pick your top 10. When the no replies, the excuses, and the alibis start coming your way you'll be ready to shift fire; it's a helluva lot easier to do so with other targets you've already acquired.

WestCoast1
09-04-13, 15:41
No offense m8, but you're counting your chickens not before they've been hatched, but before they've even been laid. You're coming here in 3 months; a lot will happen from now til then. If they are as hot as you claim be assured you are one of several dozen guys each is corresponding with,"friending", planning meetings, yada yada. At this time to her you're just a whim sitting thousands of miles away.

SNIP.

I wouldn't trim anything at this time; I'd being doing the opposite, continue to sustain the "relationships" you've found for yourself, and add to that list. Then just before you arrive pick your top 10. When the no replies, the excuses, and the alibis start coming your way you'll be ready to shift fire; it's a helluva lot easier to do so with other targets you've already acquired.Concur. The pinay typically have the attention span of a gnat. In general, chatting them prior to a few weeks before a trip is not necessarily meaningless, but usually a waste of your time. When you pare down to 10 from 100, you ignore 90. By the time of your trip, the 90 you stopped communicating with will have forgotten you. It will work like this: many of the 10 you planned to meet will flake out. When U-turn to the original 90 as backup, many will have forgotten who you are. Even some of the 10 who flake out will claim they never chatted you before (or, if she did, she will claim that she never agreed to meet with you).

The girls are so used to foreingers lying to them about upcoming trips that they rarely believe anything they hear. When you say that you are coming [X months from now], they ignore that. OTOH they get much more excited when you say you will be in town in 2 weeks. Better to meet online and have a short number of conversations before arrival. Meeting months ahead of time online also means that a possible relationship will develop (at least from her perspective) , which indicates several possibilities: she will get heartbroken, and / or you are spending time chatting girls up (the last thing you want to waste time on. You want to spend more time banging her than chatting her).

A story worth a repeat: a few years ago I went to CDO. I had an extremely explicit dating site profile, saying I was looking for hotel fun ONLY. I had pared my list of hopefuls to 19 girls. Each girl agreed, in advance, to meet and then go directly to the hotel for sex (many wanted pesos). The first gal that I met was at Starbucks and Lemketkai mall. She brought a friend, and over coffee it quickly became apparent she was not going anywhere with me. She was so shy that she even denied ever having seen me on cam. When she left, I txt girl #2 on my list to come have coffee. She made an excuse not to come. Girl #3 showed up at Starbucks and began calling me Robert. In chat she was clearly confusing me with another guy, even though we spoke on cam the evening before (me from my hotel, her from a cafe). She refused to go to my hotel, claiming that she had never agreed to any such thing."I'm good girl why would I say that?" This is how it went for 19 girls: either they made excuses for not showing up, or when they did show up they flaked out and went home. Was my 'game' off? I was 0 for 19 after two days. Nothing like this had happened to me before. I sniffed under my arms to see if I stunk. Looked in the mirror to see that I'd shaved and dressed nicely. For some of those girls who claimed that they never agreed to go to my hotel, I looked up our chat transcript, and sent them the short section where she did say she would come have sex after coffee. Their universal reply?"Yes ok I deny it yesterday at Starbucks. Yes I said it when we chat online. But at that time we chat I did not mean what I say." Not a hint or remorse for lying.

This "oh! For 19" is indicative of how fickle pinay can be (in general). One minute she's either telling you she wants you to bang her (or, she actually IS banging you) , the next minute she will deny you exist. There are so many positive aspects to sexing the pinay (or just being in her presence, as she makes you feel god-like) , but there is also such a fickle-ness and a drama aspect, that chatting them months ahead of a visit isn't all that worthwhile. OTOH, if you have time on your hands, go for it.

Sammon
09-04-13, 15:50
So, I am trying to trim a list down from 100+ down to 10 for my upcoming trip.

Had to go get some redbull and a pen and paper. Shit is hard as hell to try and pick between so many girls.

Can't stress this enough. Index girls from the start in a very detailed manner. Face & body ratings. How DTF she appears. Etc.My advice is do not trim anything. Nothing is guaranteed till the girls have sex with you. Even then you may not like the pussy for any number of reasons.

My next advice never meet them outside for coffee or anything. Especially with their friends or family. They have their reputation to protect in such cases.

My last advice is looks are not everything. Sometimes the best sex I had is with bordering ugly girls.

Of course I am there only for fucking. If you are looking for relationship I have more advice for you.

Hutsori
09-04-13, 16:48
I was 0 for 19 after two days. Nothing like this had happened to me before.Bloody hell!

D Cups
09-04-13, 17:26
Concur. The pinay typically have the attention span of a gnat. .You said that right, WC. I took a GF to the Leonardo the Vinci exhibit at Ayala Mall. I was fascinated and she was completely bored. These girls are not known for their intelligence but oh the sweetness of their affection!

Amanut
09-04-13, 20:14
On my trips I typically fire up my membership on FC and CB about two to three weeks before I arrive. That gives me adequate time to chat and arrange meetings. Any longer is a waste of money paid to the sites and as has been said by many, the ladies lose their focus quickly. It also allows me to have access to my accounts for at least part of the time I am there. Once my memberships expire I do not renew them until my next trip.

I have also had good results on DIA, but ladies I have met in the past on DIA tend to troll my activities so I have removed my picture which means I can not post.

I also prefer FC and CB as they allow multiple pictures. It's amazing that they almost always throw in the one picture that shows their true look and allows me to move on. The downside of DIA is that it allows only one picture but if you do post a picture, it is a free site.

WestCoast1
09-04-13, 21:34
Bloody hell!I know its the Manila thread, but: After striking out with several gals I went walking the Ketkai mall for a bit. I txt girl #4 or 5, who shot right back enthusiastically that she'd be in Starbucks in 20 minutes. Must live close by. She showed with a friend. Both girls were 19. The girl was average, and the friend was hhhhot. We sat outside at Starbucks, I was chatting with the friend (chatty and vivacious) , a college gal. In fact, my girl, who was chatty on cam and wanted badly to meet, didn't speak. She was just staring at me. I was starting to think she might be mute. I looked at her and asked a direct question: I forgot how old you are; can you tell me again? She just stared at me. The friend laughed and said: "She too shy to talk to you. Never seen her like this haha." My girl's eyes got kind of glossy, she never looked away from my face. After 10 minutes of chat (we never went inside for coffee / tea) I just blurted it out and said I was going to leave soon for my hotel, and was my gal coming with me? She just continued to stare. The hot friend tried to nudge her into going with me, but she wouldn't speak or move. Finally I suggested the friend take the girl home. The hottie said "Ya. She need a rest. Just she's a shy now." I stood up to leave, the hottie stood up, but my gal just sat there. Her eyes stayed on my face, but she didn't move a muscle. The hottie pulled upwards a bit on my gal's arm, but she still didn't move. The hottie suggested that I leave: "You go now. She will be ok." So I walked back to Ketkai. Later that evening, the girl was online YM in chat. I asked what happened at Starbucks, and she could not explain herself."I don't understand it sir."

Two days of this kind of thing: must go other province visit my aunt can't meet; will meet and won't go with you; will meet and be mute. Oh, and I never agree to go in your hotel; even if I did agree to it.

After two days of shutout baseball, I told the door security guy I wanted a girl. He whistled and a taxi pulled up. The driver said he'd take me to a club. I invited him in for a beer. We watched 4 heifer's in a row pole dance. I asked a mama how much was the barfine: p3000 or so. I nearly fell over. The driver leaned in close and said: "So you pay the barfine. You give me 500. You give the girl 1000 before she leave. OK?" Check please. 2 beers only. Driver, turn that meter on right now.

The next morning I left CDO a day early, and went east to a smaller provincial town. Txt'd a chatmate from Bislig while on the bus, telling her I was coming to the province a day early. She grabbed a friend and bussed over for our first meeting (I had to agree first to reimburse them p2000, as they were bussing 5 hours each way). The threesome (with booze) was one of my wildest nights ever without my clothes on. Those two girls (older, late 20 / early 30) are just loco in the bedroom. They wasted me quickly and then turned on each other. Even at my ripe old age I was surprised at their energy. They bussed home the following morning with p4000, and a Bayugana bussed in for our first meet. The next 48 hours she was the perfect sex-bunny, constantly horny, and I'll admit that I had no way to keep up with her energy. She wanted sex about every 3-4 hours. I showed her an adult toy (the hitachi) told her how it worked, and she said "No!" Sure, she's young, she's provincial, possibly never seen one before. The next morning after sex, I get out of the shower and start shaving in the CR, and suddenly I hear out in the bedroom: bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. I look out and she's on her back, knees up, eyes closed, mouth open, trying the thing. She was incredibly happy walking the boulevard holding my hand, eating jollibee, and eating an ice cream.

I think back now of how it went in one provincial town, then another, just a few hours apart. What a dichotomy. Score me 100% in one town, and 0/19 in another.

Raideen
09-04-13, 22:14
I will be on vacation from 9/10 till 9/27.

I am planning to spend most of my vacation at Philippines.

9/10 9/11 Las Pinas.

9/12 9/13 Quezon.

9/14 9/17 Angeles.

9/18 9/19 Malate.

9/20 9/27 China, Dongguan.

I will keep moving because I prefer venturing around rather than settling on one spot.

Because I will be travelling by myself, the safety would be my biggest concern.

Frankly speaking, I have to admit that I do not like Philippines very much because of the surplus of lies from everywhere.

However, I think this place is still very competitive. Cost wise. Especially, when one is planning a long-term vacation.

Expecting to come across other travelleres as my previous mongering trips were so.

Hope to have a great time with you, fellow mongers.

I will try to provide some helpful reports regarding new scenes during my trip.

Blu8096
09-05-13, 00:29
I thought I knew all the sights, what is FC and CB?

Member #4387
09-05-13, 00:29
So, I am trying to trim a list down from 100+ down to 10 for my upcoming trip.

Had to go get some redbull and a pen and paper. Shit is hard as hell to try and pick between so many girls.

Can't stress this enough. Index girls from the start in a very detailed manner. Face & body ratings. How DTF she appears. Etc.You are obviously looking forward to your upcoming trip in a few months and that is good on you. Like Amanut I fire up my profiles in various datingsites, brush them up a tad or create all new ones 2-3 weeks before entering pussy heaven (phils). In the first week I collect many candidates and starts my screeningprocess. Upon my arrival into Makati this coming weekend I started with 150+pinays but now they are narrowed down to 15 (starting once again with a girl picking me up at NAIA. Which worked out well a couple of trips ago). I will stay approx 2weeks in Makati and even 15 are far to many for such a limited time but as I count in no shows and me loosing interest (mostly the latter tends to happen as I realy did not experience more than 1 or 2 no shows but one time I guess it will hit me hard as well) I believe 15 is a nice number to work out from. I will also meet ms Preggy, a few regulars and ofcourse hopefully manage to put in a few good old p4p freelancers as well. Approx a year ago in Manila I did infact have 30 potential candidates in a week staying at the Hyatt. That ended with a total administrational disaster (ofcourse). Girls were coming or going, double bookings and girls meeting at the same time waiting me in the lobby. Had to cancell it all after only two days as king alcohol was interfering my admin skills. Atleast I gave employees at the hotel a good laugh.

So it is a lot of administration work in the beginning (narrowing numbers down) and I think it is a lot of hazzle communicating "my chosen" ones for only a week, so How you will put up with this for months beats me. But if it works out for you and you can keep sweet but inpatience pinays interested for months then once again good on you.

Member #4387
09-05-13, 00:31
I thought I knew all the sights, what is FC and CB?Filipino Cupid and Cherry Blossom I believe would be correct Sir.

FreebieFan
09-05-13, 01:50
Concur. The pinay typically have the attention span of a gnat. In general, chatting them prior to a few weeks before a trip is not necessarily meaningless, but usually a waste of your time. When you pare down to 10 from 100, you ignore 90. By the time of your trip, the 90 you stopped communicating with will have forgotten you. It will work like this: many of the 10 you planned to meet will flake out. When U-turn to the original 90 as backup, many will have forgotten who you are. Even some of the 10 who flake out will claim they never chatted you before (or, if she did, she will claim that she never agreed to meet with you).Totally correct. Tried to pass on this advise to young CPro the other day. But at 27 with his oh so gorgeous looks, don't think he thought the advise I gave was relevant. I think he believes what the girls tell him LOL.

Amanut
09-05-13, 01:52
Like Amanut I fire up my profiles in various datingsites, brush them up a tad or create all new ones 2-3 weeks before entering pussy heaven (phils). Upon my arrival into Makati this coming weekend I started with 150+pinays but now they are narrowed down to 15 (starting once again with a girl picking me up at NAIA. I believe 15 is a nice number to work out from.

So it is a lot of administration work in the beginning (narrowing numbers down) and I think it is a lot of hazzle communicating "my chosen" ones for only a week, so How you will put up with this for months beats me. But if it works out for you and you can keep sweet but inpatience pinays interested for months then once again good on you.Holy crap no kidding an administrative nightmare. LOL I tend to focus on fewer but older women who are professional and have a good education and career. I have just had good luck with practically zero no shows. My point of view is that they know sex is part of going out and the courting and understanding of expectations takes place online before we meet. I did miss a lovely lady last year. She was one of the few I have met that meant what she wrote. We had a nice lunch and chat and parted ways.

I tend to repeat with ladies from previous trips and meet a couple new ones each trip. I also keep moving to different cities. Different cities = fewer potential conflicts. Someone on here was talking about meeting Drs. Please lead me there LOL.

Unlike Skogis, I do not give out my flight information. I say I will surprise you when I call you in person. That, plus visiting different cities allows me to pop in and then bugger off saying I have been called to work elsewhere. On my last trip I broke that rule and agreed to have a lady meet me. I landed, and I waited, and waited, and waited, and waited. She finally showed up with her hair still wet. She of course woke up when the flight arrived and got ready after that. She was supposed to have us booked to go straight to Subic but she said the weather was bad. 05:00 with no hotel. We tried god knows how many hotels before we finally ended up at the Howzit. So much for my theory of professional and have a good education and career LOL. The sex with her is worth a return trip on it's own. However she was a scary woman who had the ability to keep a discrete eye on me LOL

CaliPro
09-05-13, 02:21
No offense m8, but you're counting your chickens not before they've been hatched, but before they've even been laid. You're coming here in 3 months; a lot will happen from now til then. If they are as hot as you claim be assured you are one of several dozen guys each is corresponding with,"friending", planning meetings, yada yada. At this time to her you're just a whim sitting thousands of miles away.

You'll be hitting ground at the start of high season when many of their other guys shall arrive too. And of course hot girls here are being be pursued by guys here presently.

I wouldn't trim anything at this time; I'd being doing the opposite, continue to sustain the "relationships" you've found for yourself, and add to that list. Then just before you arrive pick your top 10. When the no replies, the excuses, and the alibis start coming your way you'll be ready to shift fire; it's a helluva lot easier to do so with other targets you've already acquired.No doubt these girls are chatting up other guys. I have 100+ girls from Manila added on my facebook. Let me clarify by trimming down I mean picking 10-12 girls from the list that I will focus on. All the other girls will still be on my facebook and only a short message / text away from meeting.

I am a fairly confident chap so I am not much concerned with targets not panning out. Been doing this for 5 years or so in many countries since I was 22 and never had an issue with girls flaking and not wanting to meet. Hopefully this trip is no different.

I will also be firing up DIA and AsianDating (due to going to Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, as well as Philippines on this trip).

To add to my repeats and new girls I meet at the mall.

Fuck, endless options. God bless the Philippines!

CaliPro
09-05-13, 02:32
Just finished booking all flights and hotels for my upcoming SEA trip. Well, only hotel left to book is in Dumaguete. I am annoyed with having to cut my Philippines leg of the trip shorter than I wanted, but it would be foolish for me not to use the cheap flights to check out some other places while I am in SEA.

This is going to be 1 hell of a trip. Roughly 60 days / 4 countries.

Manila 17 days.

Cebu 15 days.

Dumaguete 13 days.

Bangkok 5 days.

Siem Reap 3 days.

Phnom Penh 5 days.

Siagon / HCMC 5 days.

Tokyo 1 day.

Then home for a month before

Cartagena 4 days.

Barranquilla 30 days.

Medellin 3 days.

Bogota 3 days.

Cali 30 days

I am thinking my dick will fall off my the time I have to come back to the states in May for my buddies wedding.

The 15 months spent working and living in this shit hole South Korea will be worth it.

Cheers

Hutsori
09-05-13, 02:57
The girls are so used to foreingers lying to them about upcoming trips that they rarely believe anything they hear. When you say that you are coming [X months from now], they ignore that.Just a quick story of a 21-year-old fubu who has become a genuine buddy. She'd come over for a shag and she'd show me all her messages from her online "love", a 46-year-old geezer named James from England. These were significant messages paragraphs long. The guy really put in the effort, which she reciprocated. He told her he'd be coming this December for a month. She was smitten. An itinerary was prepared. Hotels researched. The sights to be seen were evaluated. This online romance went on for a couple of months.

Then one day she logged on to her dating site and found he deleted his account. No explanation sent, not even a goodbye. He no longer replied to her emails. Skype calls went unanswered.

She was shattered.

Keep in mind that yes, many girls may ignore the far-off travel plans, but those more innocent, those more recent to the world of online dating, don't. It was pretty f*ckin' callous.

Hutsori
09-05-13, 04:01
On my trips I typically fire up my membership on FC and CB about two to three weeks before I arrive.I think this is a wise timeline. You're a new plaything, you'll be fresh in her mind, and you'll have plenty of time to entice and acquire before hitting ground. I think there is a risk of the guy becoming stale in a girl's mind, and replaced by someone fresher, if one starts too far in advance. After a dozen messages or so what is left to talk about?

Red Kilt
09-05-13, 04:21
Then one day she logged on to her dating site and found he deleted his account. No explanation sent, not even a goodbye. He no longer replied to her emails. Skype calls went unanswered.

She was shattered.I have heard this same sort of story so many times H.

I am sure some guys get off on having a pinay on the other side of the world getting excited about a trip they have NO intention of ever taking.

I even had an office colleague bring her daughter to see me so that I could explain to the (sexy) daughter why all the foreigners that she was chatting with online almost always promised the earth but then disappeared after a few weeks to a month.

What could I say?

I told her that yes there were many assholes on line but there were also good guys like me if she keeps looking LOL.

BrainDrain
09-05-13, 04:27
So, I am trying to trim a list down from 100+ down to 10 for my upcoming trip.

Had to go get some redbull and a pen and paper. Shit is hard as hell to try and pick between so many girls.

Can't stress this enough. Index girls from the start in a very detailed manner. Face & body ratings. How DTF she appears. Etc.

On my first trip I too made regular contact from a few months out. It is tiring. As has been mentioned I don't get active until 2 weeks before hitting the ground. Many of the punters they meet online will never hit the country. Once you hit the ground the response rates are very very different. Much better, they know where the money is.

There is something for putting a 'marker' on their profiles. Even if you only send them 2 messages ober 6 months, they will still think you have known them for 6 months. That's the same mind that allows - They only fuck on second date. Even though the first and second date can be the same day.

Anyway, when I get too caught up in early message, I just send them all the same paragraph that.


I will be away travelling on business and cannot check my account. I will contact you as soon as I arrive in Pi. In the meantime, please send me your cp.Happy travels

Soapy Smith
09-05-13, 09:22
I will be on vacation from 9/10 till 9/27.

I am planning to spend most of my vacation at Philippines.

9/10 9/11 Las Pinas.

9/12 9/13 Quezon.

9/14 9/17 Angeles.

9/18 9/19 Malate.Since you don't have many posts most of us don't know about your style of mongering. So a few questions, if you don't mind. First, why Las Pinas? It's not exactly a hot bed for p4p, so do you plan to seek dating site women? If so, you'd be better off making inquiries in that thread. But even women from Las Pinas and Muntinlupa can find their way to more centrally located places in Metro Manila, like Malate and Makati. Lodging in one of those areas could keep you from having to pull up tent stakes quite so often and allow you to figure out the lay (s) of the land, literally and figuratively.

Do you mean Quezon Province or Quezon City? Assuming you mean the latter, what's the attraction? Most Westerners do not find QC to be particularly good stomping grounds, unless you're stuck there anyway for business reasons. The options in QC could be summarized this way: a) over-priced clubs on Quezon Avenue, b) a few street-walkers in the vicinity of the clubs, c) occasional, but very rare, mall walkers in SM North or Trinoma, and d) a few shady local bars and KTV joints along Timog Avenue and Rodriguez Avenue at the end near Cubao. You can find better, and less expensive clubs even near the airport; probably more street walkers around the Burgos clubs in Makati; better pickings for mall walkers in Robinson's Place (Ermita) or Harrison Mall (Malate) , although quality may be uneven; and the local bars and KTVs in QC are not recommended for Westerners unless accompanied by Filipinos you know and trust. UP or Ateneo coeds? Fat chance, unless you have a lot of time to explore and build up relationships.

So your plans seem a little odd, unless they're driven by business obligations. If you don't really know your way around, on the other hand, you'd probably do better to read the forum thoroughly, admit your newbie status and ask a few questions (after reading first) , and then make a post in the travel announcements indicating a desire to learn the ropes as a wingman to somebody with extensive mongering experience in Metro Manila.

RonnieMonger
09-05-13, 15:19
While I'm sure the expat-experts in the Philippines will tear this apart, here's the skinny from my point of view as a SE Asia based expat who travels in and out of all these countries including this one (Manila and Angeles City) for many years. (you can check my history. It's true I haven't posted much lately) and enjoys the bar scenes and the girls. Typically speaking, Filipina women are rather squat and fat with a square bum and drooping mouth, so if you like that, you've come to the right place. The spare tire is there to be seen on most. Perhaps it's the American colonial remnants, or maybe it's an indigenous thing, whatever. They are nice people though and fun to be around, but so is my dog.

Having said that, I have seen some smoking hot skinny long legged girls too. But they are the exception. In other words, this ain't Thailand.

In Manila's P Burgos Street, the main expat place with a few go-go and other bars (with many ladyboys running around. Given the lack of skinny babes) and then EDSA go-go (same-same) and in some coffee shop pick up joints you'll find here (RTFF) , these hideous fat girls are the best of what's on offer in Manila. And it falls far short of any reasonable expectation. I'm sure other travelers have noticed this. Now to make things worse, the mamasans want 2,000. 5,000 Pesos (US$ 50. 100) for a bar fine and then the girl is going to want around the same. So you could end up paying 200 dollars for a fat girl and the sky is the limit (maybe $300. $400) when all is added up for a hot number (one shot).

In Angeles, it is better, but still the vast majority are those squat, fat girls. If you like that then enjoy. I won't be going back there.

When in Manila, as I need to go once or twice a year, I've decided to spend my money on dinner at Greenbelt etc. Now Philippines food is another story. But never mind.

D Cups
09-05-13, 15:48
I even had an office colleague bring her daughter to see me so that I could explain to the (sexy) daughter why all the foreigners that she was chatting with online almost always promised the earth but then disappeared after a few weeks to a month.Hi Red, ya, I have a few repeaters that I like to see but I don't make any long-term promises. I just tell them I'm excited to meet them / see them again. When pressed if I am seeing other girls I say let's just enjoy our time together.I am stilling getting to know you. Most of them buy it and it's the truth. Plus I always treat them with respect, bring little gifts, feed them, answer emails, phone calls, etc unless they turn out to be psychos then it's exit stage right post haste. I don't want to be a heart-breaker, that's bad karma.

We all like variety but certainly it is not what women are culturally conditioned to want to hear. The myth of monogamy and everlasting love and all that rubbish. Tainted? For sure, but realistic. We never know when our number is up so seize the day and get as much sweet snatch (and in my case big boobs) as you can.

Hopefully your business schedule will slow down in December, Red, and we can swap stories over some San Migs. I'll be in Malate 10. 14 December and then off to SGN, BKK and first time to Phuket for a conference. Then my last few days in Cebu. Man, I love those Cebuanas! I am still planning on retiring in Negros or possibly Cebu (Dalaguete?) in 2022.

Wicked Roger
09-05-13, 16:34
Filipina women are rather squat and fat with a square bum and drooping mouth, so if you like that, you've come to the right place. The spare tire is there to be seen on most.

In other words, this ain't Thailand.

In In Angeles, it is better, but still the vast majority are those squat, fat girls. If you like that then enjoy. I won't be going back there.

When in Manila, as I need to go once or twice a year, I've decided to spend my money on dinner at Greenbelt etc. Now Philippines food is another story. But never mind.Are you MCobb in a different handle. Or maybe you have the wrong specs on RM as while your views on Filipino food I would agree with, your views on pinays completely wrong unless you like cubby MILFs with a rice belly. And yes there are plenty of those.

But just a quick look will tell that your comments and observations are wrong. Barfines are what they are, don't pay f you don't want to and go via DIA FC etc and find cute college girls like many other do.

But to malign pinays with one FR and only 45 FRs is too much.

Next tim you are in Manila put on the right specs or stay away and let others including myself enjoy the many slim cuties LOL.

Blu8096
09-05-13, 21:05
While I'm sure the expat-experts in the Philippines will tear this apart, here's the skinny from my point of view as a SE Asia based expat who travels in and out of all these countries including this one (Manila and Angeles City) for many years. (you can check my history. It's true I haven't posted much lately) and enjoys the bar scenes and the girls. Typically speaking, Filipina women are rather squat and fat with a square bum and drooping mouth, so if you like that, you've come to the right place. The spare tire is there to be seen on most. Perhaps it's the American colonial remnants, or maybe it's an indigenous thing, whatever. They are nice people though and fun to be around, but so is my dog.

Having said that, I have seen some smoking hot skinny long legged girls too. But they are the exception. In other words, this ain't Thailand.

In Manila's P Burgos Street, the main expat place with a few go-go and other bars (with many ladyboys running around. Given the lack of skinny babes) and then EDSA go-go (same-same) and in some coffee shop pick up joints you'll find here (RTFF) , these hideous fat girls are the best of what's on offer in Manila. And it falls far short of any reasonable expectation. I'm sure other travelers have noticed this. Now to make things worse, the mamasans want 2, 000. 5,000 Pesos (US$ 50. 100) for a bar fine and then the girl is going to want around the same. So you could end up paying 200 dollars for a fat girl and the sky is the limit (maybe $300. $400) when all is added up for a hot number (one shot).

In Angeles, it is better, but still the vast majority are those squat, fat girls. If you like that then enjoy. I won't be going back there.

When in Manila, as I need to go once or twice a year, I've decided to spend my money on dinner at Greenbelt etc. Now Philippines food is another story. But never mind.

Strange and EXTREMELY IGNORANT Post: I wonder have you ever really been to Manila? The girls are squat and fat? Either you are partial blind or just have extremely fucked up eyesight. Where in any of the 1, 000's of photos in the photo thread do you see fat and squat women? 90% + of the women are very thin and have very tight bodies. They are typically short like most Asians, but fat? Drooping mouth and square bum? Holy crap man-WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Everybody has a opinion, but yours is as strange and off reality I have ever heard. Take one look in the photo gallery and every single picture there is the opposite of what you say. "Hideous fat girls" ?? The only thing I can think is you are nuts, blind, dumb or ignorant. Also Dumb ass learn how to add, your math is as fucked up as your post.
Horrible post, very poorly done, completely wrong and bad information, not one true fact or statement. Every picture proves what you said is completely ass backward and plain STUPID and ignorant. Please do not post here if you are just going to stupidly say things. People come here for reality of the scene- not stupid ass comments from someone who is clueless.

Blu8096
09-05-13, 21:37
I was told last night from a girl that abortion is illegal in the Philippines.

Is this true? What do you do if you get a girl pregnant?

Psychman
09-05-13, 22:14
Strange and EXTREMELY IGNORANT Post: I wonder have you ever really been to Manila? The girls are squat and fat? Either you are partial blind or just have extremely fucked up eyesight. Where in any of the 1, 000's of photos in the photo thread do you see fat and squat women? 90% + of the women are very thin and have very tight bodies. They are typically short like most Asians, but fat? Drooping mouth and square bum? Holy crap man-WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Everybody has a opinion, but yours is as strange and off reality I have ever heard. Take one look in the photo gallery and every single picture there is the opposite of what you say."Hideous fat girls"? The only thing I can think is you are nuts, blind, dumb or ignorant. Also Dumb ass learn how to add, your math is as fucked up as your post.

Horrible post, very poorly done, completely wrong and bad information, not one true fact or statement. Every picture proves what you said is completely ass backward and plain STUPID and ignorant. Please do not post here if you are just going to stupidly say things. People come here for reality of the scene- not stupid ass comments from someone who is clueless.While this response to the OP is a bit harsh, I agree with it 100% (substance, not tone). I have been to both countries on multiple occasions, and find the best looking Pinay more attractive than the best looking Thai girls. Yes, I would say the average Thai girl may be better looking, and I would suggest that half of the women in Ac are not to my liking, but there are literally hundreds of hot women in Angeles.

Mostly dogs on Burgos? That is just nuts.

Raideen
09-05-13, 23:22
Skip Kost, first of all, I really appreciate your comment and concern on my trip schedule.


First, why Las Pinas?There are several KTVs on Alabang-Zapote Roads, Las Pinas. BF is as low as 2500p. It is true that you can find better rate at Angeles. But the quallity of WGs of Las Pinas was way better than that of Angeles and showed better attitudes as far as I have experienced.


It's not exactly a hot bed for p4p, so do you plan to seek dating site women?No.

I do not want to hook up with FL because of safety issue.

A. She can be a minority with fake ID.

B. She can be associated with a dirty policeman to squeeze money from me.

C. The possiblity that she steal my belonging while I am sleeping is a bit higher than that of WG.

I also have 'No Freebie' policy mainly because.

A. I worry about breaking other one's heart. Be.

B. I do not want that freebie to restrain my freedom to monger around saying 'don't you love me? ', 'don't you want to stay with me? ' or whatever.

C. If I can find a girl who only want to enjoy sex, no special relationship, then it would be great. But, I do not know how to distinguish them on internet.

D. Simply, I have no idea what to say to girls on dating site. LOL.


But even women from Las Pinas and Muntinlupa can find their way to more centrally located places in Metro Manila, like Malate and Makati.As you said, I may stay in Malate or Makati area where I can find a lot of accommodations, restaurants, and other facilities and give a visit to Las Pinas by taxi if needed. The reason why I decided to lodge in Las Pinas is because I want to minimize my taxi usage as little as possible. I feel the bargaining process that I need to undertake whenever I use a taxi is extremely annoying. It is one of things that I hate most in Philippines. I booked Eurotel Las Pinas. From there I can get to SM Southmall in 3 minutes by walk and find some places to eat. Actually, ene of my concern is how to spend my day time in Las Pinas because I do not like malling very much. I hope my laptop and a couple of books to be helpful.


Do you mean Quezon Province or Quezon City?I do not know if it is Quezon Provice or Quezon City. But I can tell you that I will be staying near Capitol Medical Center on Quezon avenue.


Assuming you mean the latter, what's the attraction? Most Westerners do not find QC to be particularly good stomping grounds, unless you're stuck there anyway for business reasons.It is not a business related trip at all. I am visiting there for pleasure only.


The options in QC could be summarized this way: a) over-priced clubs on Quezon Avenue,Yes. The KTVs like Pegasus or Classmates are way too expensive and I will not try them. I am planning to have fun at KTVs with price range of 6 7000p for BF. On my last trip, I found a WG with nice pair of boobs at a KTV, 'Chaparral'. I am cosidering reivist there and try other KTVs. One candidate is 'Queen's Chamber'.

Some other KTV recommendation (with BF price from 4000p to 7000p) would be highly appreiciated.


You can find better, and less expensive clubs even near the airportI will be staying Malate afterwards. Can you recommend me a KTV near airport? Approx price range and contact info of it would be very helpful for me.


better pickings for mall walkers in Robinson's Place (Ermita) or Harrison Mall (Malate) , although quality may be uneven;Unfortunately, I do not have the confidence in my apperance like 'CaliPro' does. I do not think I can try that.


and the local bars and KTVs in QC are not recommended for Westerners unless accompanied by Filipinos you know and trust.I am not a Westerner but an Asian. I think that the rule, 'let's rip-off that foreigner', is applied exacly same to Asian either. I have no choice but to do my best in order to avoid overcharges. Getting friendly with Mama could be the best method I can use, right?


UP or Ateneo coeds? Fat chance, unless you have a lot of time to explore and build up relationships.Again, no freebie. Haha.


So your plans seem a little odd, unless they're driven by business obligations.My turn-on is big boobs or wildness in bed. My plan was settled based on my previous experience. Revisiting spots where I had seen big boobs and avoiding places where I had found no such girl.

Sum up.

Las Pinas: Had met a girl with nice boobies. Relatively cheap.

Quezon: Had met a girl with nice boobies.

Angeles: Bar Hopping. Save Budget.

Malate: Want to stay near airport before my departure. EDSA (The price was different on every report. BF. 1600p, Tip for L / T- 4000p, is it correct?)

I am posting photos of two girls. One I met at Las Pinas, the other at Quezon. Both had big breasts, but stopped seeing them as soon as they asked me to to buy them stuffs (I have 'no gift' policy)


If you don't really know your way around, on the other hand, you'd probably do better to read the forum thoroughly,I have thoroughly read recent forum reports. And found them very helpful. Thank you guys.


admit your newbie status and ask a few questions (after reading first) ,Right, I am still kind of newbie in here. It will be my fourth visit to Philippines, and last one was about 1 year ago.


and then make a post in the travel announcements indicating a desire to learn the ropes as a wingman to somebody with extensive mongering experience in Metro Manila.I will be in Philippines very soon (next Tue) and I do not think I can find a wingman in such a short time. However, some simple advices would be very helpful for me.

I posted my schedule in hope to join any other fellow monger who has overlapping schedule with me. I believe it can certainly increase the safery as well as guarantee more fun.

Raideen
09-06-13, 00:03
I was told last night from a girl that abortion is illegal in the Philippines.

Is this true? What do you do if you get a girl pregnant?Abortion is illegal in many part of the world.

Moreover, Philippine Catholics are officially against the use of condom. They say it is sin.

The government is proposing several ways of birth control, but always fails because of the objection by Catholics.

As you may know, overpopulation is one of main reasons for the poverty of Philippines.

OnePackGuy
09-06-13, 02:24
Strange and EXTREMELY IGNORANT Post: I wonder have you ever really been to Manila? The girls are squat and fat? Either you are partial blind or just have extremely fucked up eyesight. Where in any of the 1, 000's of photos in the photo thread do you see fat and squat women? 90% + of the women are very thin and have very tight bodies. They are typically short like most Asians, but fat? Drooping mouth and square bum? Holy crap man-WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Everybody has a opinion, but yours is as strange and off reality I have ever heard. Take one look in the photo gallery and every single picture there is the opposite of what you say."Hideous fat girls"? The only thing I can think is you are nuts, blind, dumb or ignorant. Also Dumb ass learn how to add, your math is as fucked up as your post.

Horrible post, very poorly done, completely wrong and bad information, not one true fact or statement. Every picture proves what you said is completely ass backward and plain STUPID and ignorant. Please do not post here if you are just going to stupidly say things. People come here for reality of the scene- not stupid ass comments from someone who is clueless.With all the fast food, pinays are getting fatter. Diabetes is also rising Asa major problem in the country. I have no stats, but my sense is that the skinny, medium and fat women are perhaps even in numbers.

FreebieFan
09-06-13, 03:05
While I'm sure the expat-experts in the Philippines will tear this apart, In Angeles, it is better, but still the vast majority are those squat, fat girls. If you like that then enjoy. I won't be going back there.

When in Manila, as I need to go once or twice a year, I've decided to spend my money on dinner at Greenbelt etc. Now Philippines food is another story. But never mind.Dunno where you are looking for the ladies Ronnie, but I don't see or talk to any who are more than 50 kgs and I have an impressive batting average.

The current 3 regualrs that I see are 39kgs, (has a 20 inch waist) 42kg and for variety. 45. Yes there are some short squat stocky (" I'm chubby but lovely" types) , but they are generally not to be seen on PB or even Edsa. And yeah the housewives surely do attract the Jollibee belly with their need to eat 5 meals a days. But the young ladies. Generally not chubby at all.

FreebieFan
09-06-13, 03:08
Is this true? What do you do if you get a girl pregnant?If you a Filipino boy, you generally run. Far and fast.

If you of another nationality you make a plan.

Then again condoms and birth control pills are available, basically everywhere.

Econo Tech
09-06-13, 03:34
Abortion is illegal in many part of the world.

Moreover, Philippine Catholics are officially against the use of condom. They say it is sin.

The government is proposing several ways of birth control, but always fails because of the objection by Catholics.

As you may know, overpopulation is one of main reasons for the poverty of Philippines.But don't mean you can get abortion legally. In private clinics.

But most likely the girls will not agree to it.

Soapy Smith
09-06-13, 05:39
There are several KTVs on Alabang-Zapote Roads, Las Pinas. BF is as low as 2500p. It is true that you can find better rate at Angeles. But the quallity of WGs of Las Pinas was way better than that of Angeles and showed better attitudes as far as I have experienced.

C. If I can find a girl who only want to enjoy sex, no special relationship, then it would be great. But, I do not know how to distinguish them on internet.

D. Simply, I have no idea what to say to girls on dating site. LOL.

As you said, I may stay in Malate or Makati area where I can find a lot of accommodations, restaurants, and other facilities and give a visit to Las Pinas by taxi if needed. The reason why I decided to lodge in Las Pinas is because I want to minimize my taxi usage as little as possible. I feel the bargaining process that I need to undertake whenever I use a taxi is extremely annoying. It is one of things that I hate most in Philippines. I booked Eurotel Las Pinas. From there I can get to SM Southmall in 3 minutes by walk and find some places to eat.

I do not know if it is Quezon Provice or Quezon City. But I can tell you that I will be staying near Capitol Medical Center on Quezon avenue.

Yes. The KTVs like Pegasus or Classmates are way too expensive and I will not try them. I am planning to have fun at KTVs with price range of 6 7000p for BF. On my last trip, I found a WG with nice pair of boobs at a KTV, 'Chaparral'. I am cosidering reivist there and try other KTVs. One candidate is 'Queen's Chamber'.

I will be staying Malate afterwards. Can you recommend me a KTV near airport? Approx price range and contact info of it would be very helpful for me.

Unfortunately, I do not have the confidence in my apperance like 'CaliPro' does. I do not think I can try that.

Las Pinas: Had met a girl with nice boobies. Relatively cheap.

Quezon: Had met a girl with nice boobies.

Angeles: Bar Hopping. Save Budget.

Malate: Want to stay near airport before my departure. EDSA (The price was different on every report. BF. 1600p, Tip for L / T- 4000p, is it correct?)

Right, I am still kind of newbie in here. It will be my fourth visit to Philippines, and last one was about 1 year ago.

I will be in Philippines very soon (next Tue) and I do not think I can find a wingman in such a short time. However, some simple advices would be very helpful for me.

I posted my schedule in hope to join any other fellow monger who has overlapping schedule with me. I believe it can certainly increase the safery as well as guarantee more fun.Lots of information here from an admitted newbie. Please do file a field report after your trip. Las Pinas does not get much commentary in the forum, so your comments are appreciated. If you like it there and prices are good, maybe it is a good plan.

You were in Quezon City. Quezon Province is over the mountains, many kilometers to the east. It borders the Pacific Ocean. There are others who will pay the KTV prices you report, but many on the ISG board would see this as expensive mongering.

You can do the dating site thing without having to get seriously involved with a woman. Lots of good advice recently in the dating site thread about making it clear that your intentions are about "entertaining in your hotel room," as one guy put it. Read the advice there over the last several days. Good stuff.

Two KTV / Massage parlor places near the airport: Starfleet and Air Force One. Haven't been many recent reports, but nothing suggests they are in decline. Download Google Earth and search for either one by name, and location in Paranque City. Once you locate the first the other one can be seen nearby; they're on the same road. Particularly if you go during the day, prices are less than you are quoting for QC places. Many guys opt to take their chosen girl to a massage room, where they get a massage and full service.

You do not need to be 27 and full of yourself to score mall girls. Just walk slowly, smile, and look directly at women sitting or walking nearby who make eye contact. If they are in the business they will gesture or smile. Then you just need the confidence to approach them. In Robinson's Place mall I have often seen them sitting at Starbucks at the tables outside the door toward the inside of the mall. I also have seen them sitting at tables in the cheaper sit down establishments around the first floor-McDonalds, Kenny Rogers, and the all you can eat place. Just look into these areas for the tables to the outside near the walkway of the mall, make eye contact, and see how they react. These are not freebies, but they are also not expensive, and they will not be surprised if you try to bargain the price. One way to get things started is to walk up to them, pass a few simple small talk comments, and then ask if you can buy them a soda, coffee, dessert, or similar. Your opening line can be something as simple as "is the food any good here, or should I go somewhere else"? "Hey, I'll buy you a dessert if you eat it to show me it's safe." Then just let the conversation take its own course. If they are up for business they will start asking if you have a hotel room, if you "want a massage," "want a girl," or something similar. Remember, they are at least as eager to get a paying customer as you are to get laid.

If you locate Harrison Place Mall in southern Malate (near Century Park Hotel) , it's much more run down than Robinson's. Make your way to the second floor and walk slowly all the way around. The p4ps are often hanging out along the railing overlooking the lower floor, or sometimes hanging out near the stands. Same rules apply: smile, make eye contact, and wait to see how they respond. Some of these gals may not be top shelf, but price will not put a hole in your pocket. I was there in March one day. I knew I was two hours away from being expected to deliver my libido with my squeeze, so I had no plans to pick up a p4p. But in a short walk around the second floor I saw three or four, and two of them initiated conversation with me. I was making a point to look at potential women and make eye contact. P4ps know why you are making eye contact, and the good girls will think you're just an odd Asian. By the way, I do not find Filipinas are offended by eye contact the way some East Asians are.

I have not been to EDSA in several years, but there are reports to be found about what others are paying.

My general feedback to you is that you are paying way more than you need to. Lots of delightful entertainment to be had for much less money, and in my experience the lower cost women often are less mercenary and more likely to give real GFE.

Good luck, and do post after action reports.

Sky Ryder
09-06-13, 10:08
Okay, I have been to Manila more than a few times, but being a creature of habit, I tend to limit my activities to two locations. I either go to Makati. Where I have pretty good success at Havana or MBC, which is well reviewed. I have also done The Burgos thing, but stay as far from there as I can now, do to outrageous prices and underwhelming service, at least in my experience. So this is the issue, I need to stay near the airport this time. In fact I am staying at the Airport Hotel, which is about as close as you can get. The original plan was to arrive about 2 am and be on the road with my friends by 9 or 10 the next morning when everyone arrived. Well the plan went awry and now I am stuck until early afternoon, and I am arrive about 8 pm the night before.

I have read about Star Fleet and Air Force One. I know they are more expensive than Havana or MBC, but I think they are closely located to the airport. I have heard about the EDSA entertainment complex, but have never been there. I have seen a road near the bay / USA embassy that seems to have a lot of clubs, or at least KTV; s along it as I was headed out of town to AC from Manila, but never stopped. I tried to search the forum, but here comes the Forest Gump thing. The only search results I can get are more than 2 years old almost. I know there are more recent posts, heck I saw a post today that mentioned Star Fleet, but it didn't show up when I did the search. I recall it being said that the girls at those places tend to worth the extra charges.

I an willing to accept that I am not much when it comes to computer stuff. But geez. I am just trying to find a place I can go and convince an attractive lass to come with me back to my hotel room (first choice) or use her facility. I don't want to waste an evening stashed in my hotel room.

I am open to suggestions or if someone could share the search technique, I would gladly RTFF. I know all the info is here.

TIA.

Sky

OnePackGuy
09-06-13, 10:27
Dunno where you are looking for the ladies Ronnie, but I don't see or talk to any who are more than 50 kgs and I have an impressive batting average.

The current 3 regualrs that I see are 39kgs, (has a 20 inch waist) 42kg and for variety. 45. Yes there are some short squat stocky (" I'm chubby but lovely" types) , but they are generally not to be seen on PB or even Edsa. And yeah the housewives surely do attract the Jollibee belly with their need to eat 5 meals a days. But the young ladies. Generally not chubby at all.I'd say in Manila, the super skinny crowd is getting thinner and thinner (no pun intended). Perhaps the mall isn't the best example, but if you goto SM Makati and look at the employees, you don't find the skinny crowd to be the wide majority. I really think the diet has had a huge impact on pinays. I must confess that I have only lived in Manila for the past three years, but this has been my observation. Yes, skinny girls can be found, but they aren't the norm.

OnePackGuy
09-06-13, 10:34
Just wondering what your experiences have been. If the case of in home massages, I found that you are likely to find more ES available if the prices are on the low or high end of the scale. I usually find my ladies on sulit, and I guess the lower the price (ex: 200-250 / hr) , their take is so low that they are more open to ES and the higher end they are very open to touching, so ES is easier to negotiate as it is almost expected. Of course you also have the mid priced (700 / hr) places where ES is the main menu item, but those don't count. One place that I frequented a lot was ky*you spa, but they no longer advertise on sulit. FS could be had for about 3000, but it was only an hour, so if you want longer, perhaps finding a pro is better.

Hutsori
09-06-13, 11:04
I have seen a road near the bay / USA embassy that seems to have a lot of clubs, or at least KTV;s along it as I was headed out of town to AC from Manila, but never stopped.This road is Roxas Blvd and yes, many KTVs, especially between Ocampo and Buendia. I'd give them a miss. At Roxas and Ocampo I've been to Silhouette once to visit a girl I picked up in a bar after her work a few weeks earlier. It's a videoke place with hostesses; to me nothing could be less exciting. Though you can buy individual drinks they push the 60/90-minute all-you-can-drink deal because you'll be buying the girl her drinks at p350-400 a pop. Near Silhouette is Infinity 8, which has a floor show and strippers, but a sign hangs in front of it trumpeting "new management", so I have no idea what's in store for the customer now. Drinks were expensive and Infinity 8 wanted to add on a p350-400 per person show charge, which I think is hardly worth it. Both places were well worn. Pretty girls, though nothing compelling enough to pay a visit. Further down Roxas you'll see cluster of Filipino-type bars where you can do the beer-bucket thing, which I do like, but in other areas.

Really your drive along Roxas to MBC is only a few minutues further from the places I mentioned. But if you want to try something new, and stay nearer to your hotel, then I'd recommend EDSA International Complex. More expensive than MBC but cheaper than Burgos. And if nothing rocks your world at EDSA you're just minutes from MBC.

Red Kilt
09-06-13, 11:30
. snip. But if you want to try something new, and stay nearer to your hotel, then I'd recommend EDSA International Complex. More expensive than MBC but cheaper than Burgos. And if nothing rocks your world at EDSA you're just minutes from MBC.I agree with Huts on this one.

Definitely EDSA IEC is the place where you can be certain to find a woman of choice.

MBC as a second option is further from the Airport Hotel and it will be hit or miss that you find someone to your liking.

RonnieMonger
09-06-13, 12:14
I stand by the comments that most are fat mingers. A casual observation will tell anyone that. I do take the point that maybe I don't know where to look. But after P. Burgos, EDSA, la Cafe (haven't been there for years I admit) and Greenbelt Havana have I missed somewhere major? I've been to AC. More there and I did shag a hotth a few years back. But it too is full of dumpy girls. As for Manila or Phil girls better than Thai that's just fucking ridiculous. And you my friend need the glasses. BTW I don't engage in flaming contest on ISG so won't reply to further flames.

D Cups
09-06-13, 15:43
. I won't be going back there.RM, thanks for staying out of AC and the rest of the PI. Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. I have never banged so many hundred pound cuties anywhere like the PI.

CaliPro
09-06-13, 16:24
If you locate Harrison Place Mall in southern Malate (near Century Park Hotel) , it's much more run down than Robinson's. Make your way to the second floor and walk slowly all the way around. The p4ps are often hanging out along the railing overlooking the lower floor, or sometimes hanging out near the stands. Same rules apply: smile, make eye contact, and wait to see how they respond. Some of these gals may not be top shelf, but price will not put a hole in your pocket. I was there in March one day. I knew I was two hours away from being expected to deliver my libido with my squeeze, so I had no plans to pick up a p4p. But in a short walk around the second floor I saw three or four, and two of them initiated conversation with me. I was making a point to look at potential women and make eye contact. P4ps know why you are making eye contact, and the good girls will think you're just an odd Asian. By the way, I do not find Filipinas are offended by eye contact the way some East Asians are.My apartment is actually going to be basically across the street from Harrison Place Mall. Will prob have girls meet me there for dates / lunch quite often.

Can't wait to hit MBC, Insomnia, ZZxyz, Bellagio, Cowboy Grill every night with a few trips to Makati, The Fort, and Quezon City thrown in.

Red Kilt
09-07-13, 04:41
My apartment is actually going to be basically across the street from Harrison Place Mall. Will prob have girls meet me there for dates / lunch quite often.

Can't wait to hit MBC, Insomnia, ZZxyz, Bellagio, Cowboy Grill every night with a few trips to Makati, The Fort, and Quezon City thrown in.You are going to spend a heap of cash if you plan to travel between all those places as well as Makati. The Fort and QC.

You will also need to ensure that security is well-paid and well-briefed in your apartment if you plan to stay close to Harrison Plaza. Once girls know where you are staying they will not be shy in making return visits even after you finish with them. They will also stalk you too.
You will need security to keep them out which will be difficult as it is likely that a girl will offer favors to the guards if they let her in, even if you pay them.

I suspect your meagre dollars and cut-price mongering budget might take quite an unexpected hit CP.

Slippery
09-07-13, 06:21
My apartment is actually going to be basically across the street from Harrison Place Mall. Will prob have girls meet me there for dates / lunch quite often.

Can't wait to hit MBC, Insomnia, ZZxyz, Bellagio, Cowboy Grill every night with a few trips to Makati, The Fort, and Quezon City thrown in.The boy is geographically ambitious and financially delusional.

Soapy Smith
09-07-13, 06:38
I am staying at the Airport Hotel, which is about as close as you can get. The original plan was to arrive about 2 am and be on the road with my friends by 9 or 10 the next morning when everyone arrived. Well the plan went awry and now I am stuck until early afternoon, and I am arrive about 8 pm the night before.There is a two or three block section of Airport Road near the airport with a couple of "massage parlors" and a bunch of clubs with GROs hanging around outside. I discovered it by accident in March when I spent a short hotel night there before an early morning flight departure. My squeeze was with me, so I eye-balled the women and bars by walking behind my squeeze, pretending to "let her go first."

Airport Road is a one-way street only about a dozen blocks long. It intersects Roxas between NAIA Road and EDSA, but it is one-way the wrong way, so you can't turn onto it from Roxas. Some cab drivers may not know it exists. It is a continuation of Andrews Avenue, which is the road that goes past Terminal Three. Heading west from Terminal Three Andrews becomes one-way and is named Airport Road as you cross a bridge over a canal that separates Pasay City from Paranaque.

You can get there from the Manila Airport Hotel by heading away from Terminal One, turn right on Aquino Avenue, then left at NAIA Road. Turn on Quirino, the second major street to the right, and just past the canal (Paranaque River, I think). Airport Road is the first substantial cross street on Quirino; I think there's a traffic light. Airport Road is one-way to your left. There are several clubs and parlors in that section to the left. I didn't venture into the area off to the right of that intersection.

Perhaps some of the expats can comment as to safety in these places. CS lives not far away. The danger in some bars is that locals do not welcome foreigners, even if the girls will take all cummers. If I were uncertain I would lean toward the massage parlors, since there are not likely to be drinking locals hanging around inside. But I welcome input from anybody with more knowledge of the area.

You can check this all out on Google maps, complete with street names. You do not need to be a computer whiz. BTW, the Manila Airport Hotel, if that is where you are staying, is better for short time than long time, because many rooms have two twin beds rather than double beds.

CaliPro
09-07-13, 08:36
You are going to spend a heap of cash if you plan to travel between all those places as well as Makati. The Fort and QC.

You will also need to ensure that security is well-paid and well-briefed in your apartment if you plan to stay close to Harrison Plaza. Once girls know where you are staying they will not be shy in making return visits even after you finish with them. They will also stalk you too.

You will need security to keep them out which will be difficult as it is likely that a girl will offer favors to the guards if they let her in, even if you pay them.

I suspect your meagre dollars and cut-price mongering budget might take quite an unexpected hit CP.Will only go to Makati, The Fort, and QC probably once each. No issue there. My main transport expense will be taking a jeepney up and down Mambini St. to Malate from my apartment. Which will nnot be much IMO as jeepneys are dirt cheap.

The apartment has a doorman / security. Not much I can do about crazy stalker girls. If it happens I'll just have to deal with it.

I'll have $15,000 USD saved when I leave Korea and will only be in SEA for 56 days. 16 of which will be in Manila. Only plan on spending $3,500-4,000 USD on this SEA trip. Then a short visit back home in the states before setting off to Colombia for 2 months. I don't have a mongering budget as I won't be paying for any sex on this trip, unless you count ice cream, cheap lunch, and a few beers as paying.

Nov. 29 can't get here soon enough!

Fast Eddie 48
09-07-13, 17:11
My apartment is actually going to be basically across the street from Harrison Place Mall. Will prob have girls meet me there for dates / lunch quite often.

Can't wait to hit MBC, Insomnia, ZZxyz, Bellagio, Cowboy Grill every night with a few trips to Makati, The Fort, and Quezon City thrown in.To Calipro.

If you are not going to paid for sex why even bother to hit all this place no girl will fuck you for free there, all girl in this place is there to make money to support their family don't be stupid and naive all you going to get is old lady in the st.

Fast Eddie 48

FLT09
09-07-13, 17:43
To Calipro.

If you are not going to paid for sex why even bother to hit all this place no girl will fuck you for free there, all girl in this place is there to make money to support their family don't be stupid and naive all you going to get is old lady in the st.

Fast Eddie 48Eddie, I think you are forgetting that he is a gift from God. All the girls are just waiting to drop their panties for him.

CP, I'm not sure why you really post at all. It just seems like you like to gloat about your future endeavors that may or may not occur. I notice you are doing the same thing on the Cambodia thread. You ask for advice and when given you have to make it clear you have not nor will you ever P4P.

It's all just rather amusing to me.

FLT.

CaliPro
09-07-13, 18:40
At FastEddie,

You are quite naive if you think hookers don't fuck guys for free. I've done it plenty of times in numerous countries. LOL at me fucking some street walkers. I am going to MBC to mack the waitresses not the FLs.

At FLT,

Not sure what you mean by gloating. I merely come on here to get info, ask questions, and post trip reports. What you deem as gloating is merely me dealing with haters and people telling me I can't do x etc. Yes, sometimes I must clarify I am not a monger when I am getting advice about "paying" for hookers. As that advice or info is not of use to me. These forums are good for finding information not directly related to paying hookers ie GF hotels, bars / clubs, restaurants, dating websites, transportation, etc.

Gaijin Gigolo
09-07-13, 21:31
At FastEddie,

You are quite naive if you think hookers don't fuck guys for free. I've done it plenty of times in numerous countries. LOL at me fucking some street walkers. I am going to MBC to mack the waitresses not the FLs.Totally true, if you have some game, guts and a sense of humor, one shouldn't have to pay hookers for sex in Asia, especially in the Philippines. That's not to say I haven't done so on occasion, but more often than not (actually, always) I'm able to score freebies in just about every setting. CaliPro mentions MBC waitresses. I've taken three back to my room on three different trips. Once they're convinced you're 'not like all the other guys' who come there to find h00kers, they're all yours. I do buy them dinner and a bit of shopping, but that's called dating, isn't it? :-)

Slippery
09-08-13, 00:13
if you're planning on taking mambini street, you'll never find a jeepney, never get to where you are going and never return. wish i could be a stray dog on the street watching you pass through neighborhoods by harrison where hundreds of migrants from mindanao live, eat, [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and * on the street or in trikes. indeed you just might score some cheap poon tang in one of those areas for the price of a bowl of rice but you'll have to feed the whole family and that's probably above your daily budget

CaliPro
09-08-13, 01:15
if you're planning on taking mambini street, you'll never find a jeepney, never get to where you are going and never return. wish i could be a stray dog on the street watching you pass through neighborhoods by harrison where hundreds of migrants from mindanao live, eat, [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) and * on the street or in trikes. indeed you just might score some cheap poon tang in one of those areas for the price of a bowl of rice but you'll have to feed the whole family and that's probably above your daily budgetno problem, i'll take a taxi or train if need be.

i have no budget that i have to adhere to.

CaliPro
09-08-13, 01:24
Totally true, if you have some game, guts and a sense of humor, one shouldn't have to pay hookers for sex in Asia, especially in the Philippines. That's not to say I haven't done so on occasion, but more often than not (actually, always) I'm able to score freebies in just about every setting. CaliPro mentions MBC waitresses. I've taken three back to my room on three different trips. Once they're convinced you're 'not like all the other guys' who come there to find h00kers, they're all yours. I do buy them dinner and a bit of shopping, but that's called dating, isn't it? :-)FastEddie knows this, he is just being a hater.

This is not even mentioning online game, which is no where in the world better or easier than the Philippines. I went to MBC and played pool and flirted with the pool & shooter girls every night before heading out to the clubs. Lots of fun.

There is no reason for anyone (young or old) to have to pay for girls in the Philippines if they don't want to. Nothing wrong with paying though if you have the cash to burn and don't want to deal with the inconveniences of getting girls for free (chatting, messaging online, dates, time, etc) I myself have paid for 4 hookers in my life time. 1 in Costa Rica. 2 in Colombia and 1 in Manila on my last night as I had some pesos to get rid of and only a few hours before my flight left. We are all here for same reason which is to have fun and enjoy the Philippines. As the old man alwas said, there is more than one way to skin a cat. No need for hating fellas.

Slippery
09-08-13, 08:15
Post #11513 you only plan on spending $3, 500. 00 to $4, 000. 00 this SEA trip. Sounds like a budget to me. And the jokes on you Pro. There is no Mambini Street.

FLT09
09-08-13, 08:27
FastEddie knows this, he is just being a hater.

This is not even mentioning online game, which is no where in the world better or easier than the Philippines. I went to MBC and played pool and flirted with the pool & shooter girls every night before heading out to the clubs. Lots of fun.

There is no reason for anyone (young or old) to have to pay for girls in the Philippines if they don't want to. Nothing wrong with paying though if you have the cash to burn and don't want to deal with the inconveniences of getting girls for free (chatting, messaging online, dates, time, etc) I myself have paid for 4 hookers in my life time. 1 in Costa Rica. 2 in Colombia and 1 in Manila on my last night as I had some pesos to get rid of and only a few hours before my flight left. We are all here for same reason which is to have fun and enjoy the Philippines. As the old man alwas said, there is more than one way to skin a cat. No need for hating fellas.I'm not hating on you trying to get girls other ways than P4P. I am heading there in a week and have also been working the online game trying to set up as much as I can before I get there. I just think your approach towards other members at times is a bit uncalled for given what this forum is all about.

All in all, I hope you have a successful and enjoyable trip.

FLT.

Red Kilt
09-08-13, 09:02
This is not even mentioning online game, which is no where in the world better or easier than the Philippines. I went to MBC and played pool and flirted with the pool & shooter girls every night before heading out to the clubs. Lots of fun.The problem for you CP is that you are asking all about known P4P places with a plan to go there and find women and not pay.

This is very dishonest and just taking advantage of the women.

If you are straight up about using DIA or shopping malls etc for freebies then that's quite OK but to assume that ANYONE from MBC or places like that will not expect payment is wrong. Girls do not go to p4p places just to meet young hansum men like CP for sex as he seems to think.

If you don't plan to pay, I hope you are upfront about it and make it clear to the girl at the outset.

If you don't make it clear, and then send them off without any cash after the deed when they expect payment, then you better not return to the scene a second time because someone will catch up with you.

Soapy Smith
09-08-13, 09:33
This is very dishonest and just taking advantage of the women.Agreed. There are clubs around the Metro area where a young good looking Westerner might score an occasional Pinay freebie. It's probably also true with some women from the online dating sites. More power to you: score some hot young women who have economic alternatives in life. But the women at MBC and those hanging out around the second floor railing at the Harrison Mall are poor women who do p4p because they don't have any comparable alternatives for feeding themselves-and usually kids left to them by fathers who deserted them. Unless the rules have changed, waitresses at MBC are not allowed to date the customers. If you get them to cheat on those rules, you're endangering their meager livelihood. The waitresses are very poorly paid and work long days without much time off.

CP, most of what you call "hating" from others on the forum is not jealousy over your youthfulness, good looks, and game. It is distaste for your attitude toward poor Third World women, and in some cases disbelief at your arrogance. It is likely, as RK suggests, that you will soil your own bed when you try to pull a freebie on a poor WG. But you also spoil the apple barrel for all the rest of us, because you give all Western men a black eye in the minds of these Pinays.

CaliPro
09-08-13, 10:13
Post #11513 you only plan on spending $3, 500. 00 to $4, 000. 00 this SEA trip. Sounds like a budget to me. And the jokes on you Pro. There is no Mambini Street.Might be a budget to you, especially if you are staying in nice hotels, eating at nice restaurants, and paying for women to fuck you. To me 4,000 USD for 56 days is plenty. 20 dollars on accommodations and around 50 dollars for cheap dates and beers. And by the way it is only a budget in that is what I am expecting to spend, not a budget in that it is all I have and that I must stick to it. Like I said, I am leaving Korea with 15,000 USD saved. Money on this SEA trip is of no concern to me. If I spend less than expected great, if I spend more, no big problem.

CaliPro
09-08-13, 10:17
I'm not hating on you trying to get girls other ways than P4P. I am heading there in a week and have also been working the online game trying to set up as much as I can before I get there. I just think your approach towards other members at times is a bit uncalled for given what this forum is all about.

All in all, I hope you have a successful and enjoyable trip.

FLT.As I mentioned you need to read my interactions with other members from start to finish. I am never first to gloat or put down someone. As I told you earlier, I come on here to seek information and post trip reports. Nothing more, nothing less. The problem is, the first time some realizes I am x years old and that I don't really do p4p they get all defensive and stat attacking or hating on me.

CaliPro
09-08-13, 10:27
The problem for you CP is that you are asking all about known P4P places with a plan to go there and find women and not pay.

This is very dishonest and just taking advantage of the women.

If you are straight up about using DIA or shopping malls etc for freebies then that's quite OK but to assume that ANYONE from MBC or places like that will not expect payment is wrong. Girls do not go to p4p places just to meet young hansum men like CP for sex as he seems to think.

If you don't plan to pay, I hope you are upfront about it and make it clear to the girl at the outset.

If you don't make it clear, and then send them off without any cash after the deed when they expect payment, then you better not return to the scene a second time because someone will catch up with you.Actually, I primarily go to those places for the ambience. At least in the Philippines as there are plenty of girls from online, the malls, and normal night clubs, of better quality I might add, where I don't need to or rely on picking up WGs for free. As I pointed out before, I go to MBC because I like to atmosphere and to flirt with the waitresses. Most of the WGs there are ugly from my mild observations.

How is it being dishonest when they know I don't pay from the start and that I am only in town for a few days ie no potential relationship etc? I don't lie to girls making them believe they can be my gf. If a girl hangsout with me it because she wants to with full understanding that at most she is going to get a free meal, some beers, and get to sleep in my hotel / apartment.

Sure girls don't go to MBC to meet young guys like me. Why would they as there are not many young guys like me there. This doesn't mean that they don't or wouldn't leave with me with full understanding that no money was going to be exchanged. Been doing this since my first trip to Brazil in 2009 at the Balcony Bar in Rio. Point blank told the girl I didn't pay for sex and she said she didn't care and wanted to spend the night with me. This girls are human you know. They can be attracted to a guy physically and personality wise and not be thinking about milking them for money. Even older guys can do / experience this.

CaliPro
09-08-13, 10:31
Agreed. There are clubs around the Metro area where a young good looking Westerner might score an occasional Pinay freebie. It's probably also true with some women from the online dating sites. More power to you: score some hot young women who have economic alternatives in life. But the women at MBC and those hanging out around the second floor railing at the Harrison Mall are poor women who do p4p because they don't have any comparable alternatives for feeding themselves-and usually kids left to them by fathers who deserted them. Unless the rules have changed, waitresses at MBC are not allowed to date the customers. If you get them to cheat on those rules, you're endangering their meager livelihood. The waitresses are very poorly paid and work long days without much time off.

CP, most of what you call "hating" from others on the forum is not jealousy over your youthfulness, good looks, and game. It is distaste for your attitude toward poor Third World women, and in some cases disbelief at your arrogance. It is likely, as RK suggests, that you will soil your own bed when you try to pull a freebie on a poor WG. But you also spoil the apple barrel for all the rest of us, because you give all Western men a black eye in the minds of these Pinays.Please. Spare me.

So long as someone is honest and upfront about their intentions, there is nothing wrong with spending time with a Pinay because she likes you / wants to without paying.

Hutsori
09-08-13, 11:45
I've read the conversation re "freebies" with some interest and both sides' arguments have merit.

It is true that the MBC girls and the like elsewhere do live tough lives. That being said I do know that from time to time some girls may have a lucky streak, are flush with cash, and are looking for fun. You'll see many of them at the Hyatt casino. Some go on a shabu binge. And others fuck a guy they find attractive for free. Having seen what the majority of blokes at MBC look like I certainly can't blame a girl for wanting a piece of ass she finds attractive from time to time. If calipro is straight up with the girl that he isn't paying, and she agrees, that's their affair.

Far worse are the guys who stiff the girls when no such meeting of the minds was reached.

Cbea20
09-08-13, 11:48
I tried the Airport Road scene one evening 2 years ago. A bicycle rickshaw took me down from the top of the road, stopping at each bar. (I did not see massage parlors). Not one place would agree to takeout. They want to sell drinks. Whether they have private back rooms, I did not ask. So then the rickshaw took me to the Rotunda. Very hush-hush, they bring out a girl while I stay inside the conveyance. I pay small money to each of the guys, and get in a taxi with the girl. We get to my hotel. The guys have not informed her what I am offering to pay! She doesn't like it. I cut her loose. All a waste of time in that area. South from the Rotunda, past the bus stands, procurers will offer you girls. The deal seems to be on-site. I have never stopped to see the wares.


There is a two or three block section of Airport Road near the airport with a couple of "massage parlors" and a bunch of clubs with GROs hanging around outside. I discovered it by accident in March when I spent a short hotel night there before an early morning flight departure. My squeeze was with me, so I eye-balled the women and bars by walking behind my squeeze, pretending to "let her go first."

Airport Road is a one-way street only about a dozen blocks long. It intersects Roxas between NAIA Road and EDSA, but it is one-way the wrong way, so you can't turn onto it from Roxas. Some cab drivers may not know it exists. It is a continuation of Andrews Avenue, which is the road that goes past Terminal Three. Heading west from Terminal Three Andrews becomes one-way and is named Airport Road as you cross a bridge over a canal that separates Pasay City from Paranaque.

You can get there from the Manila Airport Hotel by heading away from Terminal One, turn right on Aquino Avenue, then left at NAIA Road. Turn on Quirino, the second major street to the right, and just past the canal (Paranaque River, I think). Airport Road is the first substantial cross street on Quirino; I think there's a traffic light. Airport Road is one-way to your left. There are several clubs and parlors in that section to the left. I didn't venture into the area off to the right of that intersection.

Perhaps some of the expats can comment as to safety in these places. CS lives not far away. The danger in some bars is that locals do not welcome foreigners, even if the girls will take all cummers. If I were uncertain I would lean toward the massage parlors, since there are not likely to be drinking locals hanging around inside. But I welcome input from anybody with more knowledge of the area.

You can check this all out on Google maps, complete with street names. You do not need to be a computer whiz. BTW, the Manila Airport Hotel, if that is where you are staying, is better for short time than long time, because many rooms have two twin beds rather than double beds.

Soapy Smith
09-08-13, 11:59
(I did not see massage parlors).In March there were two on the North side of the street about 2 or 2 1/2 blocks in from Roxas. One was in the same building as a hotel. They did not have the appearance of "legitimate" massage parlors, but no guarantee until someone TOFTT.