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Soapy Smith
09-08-13, 12:08
I've read the conversation re "freebies" with some interest and both sides' arguments have merit.

If calipro is straight up with the girl that he isn't paying, and she agrees, that's their affair.I doubt many on the other "side" would begrudge CP what you describe. But given his pursuit of willing partners, why are MBC and Harrison Mall featured in his posts? Clearly there are more obvious places to meet freebies, wouldn't you agree?

CaliPro
09-08-13, 12:22
I doubt many on the other "side" would begrudge CP what you describe. But given his pursuit of willing partners, why are MBC and Harrison Mall featured in his posts? Clearly there are more obvious places to meet freebies, wouldn't you agree?Its real simple why they are featured in my post. I like the ambience of MBC. I've always loved the ambience of freelancer bars and clubs. Harrisons is mentioned because ill be staying almost across the street from it.

My lays are going to come from these and most likely in this order.

1) Online

2) Discos

3) Bars

4) Robinsons Mall

5) Hookers

I doubt I'll even fuck a hooker to be honest. At least not one I got from MBC, Burgos, or EDSA. I'll have my hands full trying to meet and manage all the girls from online.

Hutsori
09-08-13, 12:57
I doubt many on the other "side" would begrudge CP what you describe. But given his pursuit of willing partners, why are MBC and Harrison Mall featured in his posts? Clearly there are more obvious places to meet freebies, wouldn't you agree?I certainly would agree. They would be the amongst the last places I'd look, which is why I rarely go there. That being said, where the hunter hunts is up to him. In the end up it's up to the girl to agree to his offer.

Member #4387
09-08-13, 13:13
I have no intention of flaming Calipro as I also have a lot of freebies if I want to. But I don't like to run down that path as it makes me feel very bad within myself exploiting women in a 3 world country like Phils. I almost with no exuse use the word "guiltmoney" dealing with pinays as in I pay them to feel good about myself as many of the girls I meet wants to see me again (but I don't have any intention to do so) and I almost in every case have so much more in my life than they do. This I find as a good soulution even if on rare occations I get the blue notes thrown in my face (like yesterday). Picked a girl from Republic yesterday and she did not want to be labeled as a P4P when I humbly ask her if I could provide her with cash as in a gift (money in envelope). This 5. 7 tall slimmy would not hear of any payment so as she left my hotel around noon it was without any compensation from Skogis. It is not a nice feeling. I have ofcourse a few regulars on a non pay program as they do ok in their life and they are are realy scared from the labeling as P4P and what kind of effect it would have on their proffessional careers if someone found out. Some of them enjoys hanging out in top notche nightvenues where many of the important people in the Manila scene are to be seen. So I guess in situation like this is ok to run a non payment deal. Calipros tactics when dealing with typical P4P venues I don't get nor would I exploit ladies going there as it is well known it is a hidden agreement we should compensate girls we hit up in places like (Havana, Icon, Paladium, Insomnia, MBC, Robinson) but I guess for some it gives them a good feeling as they can say I got it for free. Many not so hardore girls in the Manila scene are shy to ask a western guy for money so I think we should be fair and give them atleast somehing.

When dealing with datingsitegirls you can ofcourse direct your intentions at an early stage or you can easily play the "I pretend I don't know I have to pay you" game with great success. I think this is also unfair. As I have runned into some well heeled pinays in my Manila playground I learn by time is it not expected I pay at all as it would be highly offensive to them so then I ofcourse leave hookermoney out of sight. So Calipro I do hope you tell upfront your intentions beeing on a tight budget and all the girls should not expect any blue notes from you. Saying so every man decides for him self how he plays and I guess there are no right or left in these matters. As a side note on my first trip into Manila I did one waitress from MBC. She was fired as her managment found out she was going to my place after her shift ended at 7am or sth. I had to go talk to a swedish bloke (some sort of manager / owner or sth. This is almost 2 years ago) and the girl got her job back as in an exception so be careful on the girls behalf as they don't allways think about consecvences hitting them hard around the corner of life.

Well so far "the meet and great" at NAIA went great except the girl met up with her "brother" and he drove us to Makati hotel. We went up to the room leaving her socalled "brother" in the parking garage, hehe (I realy don't care about their relations) but it was a great "after long flight fuck" to start my Makatistay with some freshly washed pinay pussy straight after clearing customs / immigration. I even send her to the Mark and Spenser to buy us some vino blanco between poppings while I watched Lion King on DVD. Nice start and she got some compensation after deed ended.

Sammon
09-08-13, 14:15
Unless you meet and score a well healed professional with a good job there are no freebies in Phi. Those who are are well heeled are seldom looking for company from a casual western monger / visitor. Also if you get lucky they

tend to be much older and uglier.

Young spinners need to be compensated one way or another and in fact any girl should be compensated for a casual romp irrespective of their objection. If they refuse money take them shopping.

Many I meet on dating sites never say how much I should give. Casual answer always is " up to you". Some say they are not prostitutes and do not expect money. Of course I have yet to find any girl all over the world who refused gifts.

There is no need to play tricks to get freebies. Make your intention known of the fact that you want sex only and no commitment. If they agree to meet you compensate for their service by way of money and gifts.

Most of the normal girls I meet never traveled on a plane, never ate at fancy restaurants, never stayed at upscale hotels. They love to fill up the tub and loll around there for long time.

Do not be a cheapskate and treat them like dirt!

X Man
09-08-13, 15:10
I agree that there is no need to "trick" a gal, but I much prefer vagueness. I know Sammon disagrees. My feeling is that if you put the sex up front and center (with online gals) you tend to get the pfp gals rather than those who might be looking for a fling or a beach getaway or whatever. Sammon, if you got a tub in the room, you're staying at "fancy" places. Better than the dives I stay at. LOL.

On my last visit I had some realy odd experiences with online gals using my vauge method. One simply replied with,"I require compensation." I replied,"1. 5k", and she showed up directly at my MM hotel room in a mini dress and stayed all night and was insatiable. Less effort than a taxi ride to MBC. Another (in Cebu) claimed to be virgin, but when I threw her out she asked for a second chance and suggested that I could impregnate her without any marriage commitment. I declined, obviously.


There is no need to play tricks to get freebies. Make your intention known of the fact that you want sex only and no commitment. If they agree to meet you compensate for their service by way of money and gifts.

Most of the normal girls I meet never traveled on a plane, never ate at fancy restaurants, never stayed at upscale hotels. They love to fill up the tub and loll around there for long time.

Do not be a cheapskate and treat them like dirt!

Hutsori
09-08-13, 19:24
Unless you meet and score a well healed professional with a good job there are no freebies in Phi.

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Do not be a cheapskate and treat them like dirt!I would be inclined to agree with you if I hadn't experienced what I have. I think we can all agree a girl will vote with her feet; if you meet one who expects money or gifts, and they don't arrive, she'll never see you again. I haven't experienced this.

Case in point. Friday night J, a 24-year-old call centre worker who've I've been meeting once a week for several months, arrived at 830 pm. We went out to dinner, met some friends for bar hopping, and came home at 5 am. Had a romp, slept, awoke and fucked through the late afternoon and evening. At night we grabbed some supper, saw a late movie, and back home by 1 am for more adult fun. Awoke this morning, had another session, and then we went out to breakfast. I dropped her off in EDSA for her bus back to QC. Opened my dating sites and starting planning the night. Three newbs wanted to come over at 830pm, and I made the offer to one of them, which was accepted. Then I received a text from L who wanted to meet and agreed to come in the afternoon.

At 2pm L, a 28-year-old IT employee, arrived. I thought it was our first meeting, but golly she looked familiar."You look really familiar, have I seen you somewhere before?" I asked."Yes, here," she answered. Into the shower she went and then into my bed she jumped. I walked her out to the jeep at 630.

At 910pm I (her first initial) , a 31-year-old call centre employee, arrived from Muntinlupa. Our first meeting, we chatted for an hour and then I told her to go take a shower. She was taken aback for a moment."Did you remember to bring your toothbrush?" "Yes." "Very good. Get in there," and I showed her the way. After we finished she said she had a great time and would like do so again. At 1am I walked her out to the bus to Ayala where she gets the bus to Muntinlupa. Will she accept my invitation to return? Remains to be seen. But she came a lot, had a big smile on her face as we walked out my condo, and planted a kiss on my lips before boarding the bus. In all these meetings no money changed hands. No gift was given. This slice of life happens all the time, the only difference being on weekdays when I typically just meet 2 girls a day.

Am I treating them like dirt? By your narrow view I guess I am. But the view of the girl is the one I only care about, and they keep coming back. I take that to mean they are quite happy with the arrangement.


I agree that there is no need to "trick" a gal, but I much prefer vagueness. I know Sammon disagrees. My feeling is that if you put the sex up front and center (with online gals) you tend to get the pfp gals rather than those who might be looking for a fling or a beach getaway or whatever.I'm very direct what I'm looking for. From time to time I am messaged by p4p girls, offers which I decline. The vast majority of messages I receive are from girls who claim to be simple and aren't for fun. But they are.

WestCoast1
09-08-13, 20:58
SNIP In all these meetings no money changed hands. No gift was given. This slice of life happens all the time, the only difference being on weekdays when I typically just meet 2 girls a day.

Am I treating them like dirt? By your narrow view I guess I am. But the view of the girl is the one I only care about, and they keep coming back. I take that to mean they are quite happy with the arrangement.

I'm very direct what I'm looking for. From time to time I am messaged by p4p girls, offers which I decline. The vast majority of messages I receive are from girls who claim to be simple and aren't for fun. But they are.Concur.


Do not be a cheapskate and treat them like dirt!I think those two things are (or can be) distinctly different things. One can give the girls little, or even no money, and still treat them well (ala Hut). I've known gents like this. They don't care a whit to chat an AC bargirl to see if she likes him enough to go his hotel with him. But he has the gift of banter (more than me) , and after they leave the bar he will take her for a bite to eat and maybe a drink somewhere to watch a stage show, and then to breakfast in the morning. There is little or no tip in the morning. Is that cheap? Maybe. Maybe not. The girls seem to like those guys. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and kuripot is in the eye of the girl (not us).

Similar case outside of AC. A Manila girl spends the night with me and I give her p1000 in the morning (or, nothing). Compared with giving a MBC girl 2-3K for an evening, that's relatively inexpensive. We did not go out for drinks or dinner or anything. Is that cheapskate? Maybe. She comes over again a few nights later and gets the same thing. Cheapskate? On my next visit she comes to me twice again for the same amount. In fact, we never mention money anymore. Sometimes we go for food and / or drinks, other times we don't. Is that cheapskate? The girl seems happy with the thing, and leaves messages on YM often about looking forward to future dates. We've been doing this for 3 years. If it was cheapskate on the first morning, is it still cheapskate?

While many girls get something from me (and expect it up front) , not all po' girls are so interested in it. Some want the other items that go with sleeping with a foreigner: his company, time spent with him, the possiblity of a baby from him, being seen with him, his aircon room with a real bed, sex. I'm sure there are other reasons that have little to do with money.

Its possible that even CaliPro can do what he says.


Some say they are not prostitutes and do not expect money. Of course I have yet to find any girl all over the world who refused gifts.I have. Several times in phils alone. And its painful when it happens. A cebuana DIA contact a few years ago hit on my 'sex-only' profile. A real looker that said she was fine with drinks and sex. Simple girl with a waitress job from a poor family. She had asked if I could bring some chocolate. We met outside Juliana's. I paid the entrance and for the first round of san migs. While enjoying the scene, one of her friends and the friend's bf came along and the three of them hit the elevated dance floor. There was another round of san migs and it turned out the bf paid for two, and my date paid for two while I was in the CR. We left after that and had a good night in the hotel. In the morning while she showered, I folded ten p100 notes and put them into her purse along with a chocolate bar, and was going to take her out for breakfast. As were walking down the hallway to the stairwell, she was behind me and I heard her say: "What's this?" I turned to her and she had the money and chocolate in her left hand."Do you think I'm puta?" She threw all of it high into the air and walked right by me, glaring at me. Sh*t. I tried to run after her and placate her. Instead of taxiing for breakfast, she ignored me and waited on the street and got into a jeep and left without speaking to me. Westy = Mister Smooooooooth.

Sammon, I'll PM you with something shortly.

Fast Eddie 48
09-09-13, 01:25
Agreed. There are clubs around the Metro area where a young good looking Westerner might score an occasional Pinay freebie. It's probably also true with some women from the online dating sites. More power to you: score some hot young women who have economic alternatives in life. But the women at MBC and those hanging out around the second floor railing at the Harrison Mall are poor women who do p4p because they don't have any comparable alternatives for feeding themselves-and usually kids left to them by fathers who deserted them. Unless the rules have changed, waitresses at MBC are not allowed to date the customers. If you get them to cheat on those rules, you're endangering their meager livelihood. The waitresses are very poorly paid and work long days without much time off.

CP, most of what you call "hating" from others on the forum is not jealousy over your youthfulness, good looks, and game. It is distaste for your attitude toward poor Third World women, and in some cases disbelief at your arrogance. It is likely, as RK suggests, that you will soil your own bed when you try to pull a freebie on a poor WG. But you also spoil the apple barrel for all the rest of us, because you give all Western men a black eye in the minds of these Pinays.To Skip post.

Totally agree that navie boy just don't get it if he can get laid back home in the US why he need to travel to all the poor third country to take advantage all the poor girl, he just don't want to listen to advice form any ISG member.

Fast Eddie 48

CaliPro
09-09-13, 01:48
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Enough is enough.

Thanks!

FreebieFan
09-09-13, 02:01
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CP, most of what you call "hating" from others on the forum is not jealousy over your youthfulness, good looks, and game. It is distaste for your attitude toward poor Third World women, and in some cases disbelief at your arrogance. It is likely, as RK suggests, that you will soil your own bed when you try to pull a freebie on a poor WG. But you also spoil the apple barrel for all the rest of us, because you give all Western men a black eye in the minds of these Pinays.In total concurrence. Saw this fella for what he was (and wasnt) a while back. Maturity is being able to both assess, and then laugh at those who feel they are Gods gift. Arrogance is nothing new for the youthful. Hes had (maybe) a couple of trips to Phils and some other places in his shiort life. Doesn't have two beans but is full of it, and is playing the "lets stiff the girl" game, and oh so proud of it.

Those of us who have been around a bit longer score just as many freebies, but often provide a gift, both because we know the game just a bit better than CP but also because maybe we follow a moral code or direction of sorts, whereby we know these gals have next to nothing in their lives and all they have is "pretty"for a few short years.

I wish him the benefit of maturity, and hope he can read some of these comments about him. The comments most certainly arent "hating", but behind every comment is a message for him, from numerous members here, who are much more experienced in life and in Manila than he is.

CaliPro
09-09-13, 02:29
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Enough is enough.

Thanks!

CaliPro
09-09-13, 08:36
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Enough is enough.

Thanks!

Sammon
09-09-13, 14:42
1. Vast majority of Phi girls are poor. They are looking for a escape from their poverty. They sell their bodies for that.

2. Even non prostitutes are very willing to offer sex hoping that some knight in shining armor will rescue them.

3. It is well known in Phi foreigners pay for sex. So they flood the dating sites looking for relationship first and money a close second. Opening their legs are in the hope of first choice, if not the second one.

4. Unless the girl has been around the block she is hesitant to openly ask for money or gifts.

5. Parents, siblings look for the girl to support them irrespective of how they earn it. Unless the parents are strictly religious or fairly well off they do not mind their girl selling sex.

6. Even the girl is tuned to supporting her family once they get to legal age or before. Not all girls want to go to AC and work in bars. They will look for a decent job and struggle because small jobs hardly pay any good money.

In such circumstances do we take advantage of them and not give any money?

We are not talking here about substantial amount. Some girls are happy with 500 pesos. Experienced or very pretty ones ask for more.

Some members have said they hardly give any money but the girls keep calling them and want to come over. Why? These girls are hoping that you will fall in love with them. If you are not serious give money or cut loose.

Yes, like anywhere else some girls get drunk and horny and will have sex without any compensation.

Yes, some girls feel like if they take money they will be like prostitutes. In such cases buy some gifts.

Yes, many foreigners will splurge at home, however once they reach Phi become cheapies. I am not talking about barfined girls. They already got their money whether you choose to give tip or not.

RonnieMonger
09-09-13, 17:30
The night I arrived back in Bangers, I was treated to a slim 20 year old, a wet pussy, truly moaning as it got wetter, and full on french kisses. No singing, no fat ass, no big thighs, no drooping mouth. It was heavenly compared to the rubbish of Manila. It was. Well. Excellent. I guess if you are stuck in Manila you take what you can get. And the long-term expats know where to find the slim and sexy girls. For the rest (like me) when I visit I am just frustrated by the lack of quality. Even in Angeles. I guess that's what happens when the USA colonizes a place with shitty food and Mexican great grandparents DNA.

IM Punter
09-09-13, 19:39
A Manila girl spends the night with me and I give her p1000 in the morning (or, nothing). Compared with giving a MBC girl 2-3K for an evening, that's relatively inexpensive.Out of ignorance, I want to ask, what's a Manila girl as opposed to a MBC girl. I know MBC is the name of the bar when I met p4p girls on my last visit. Is a Manila girl one you meet on DIA or FC?

Thanks.

Hellas
09-09-13, 20:33
1. Vast majority of Phi girls are poor. They are looking for a escape from their poverty. They sell their bodies for that.

2. Even non prostitutes are very willing to offer sex hoping that some knight in shining armor will rescue them.

3. It is well known in Phi foreigners pay for sex. So they flood the dating sites looking for relationship first and money a close second. Opening their legs are in the hope of first choice, if not the second one.

4. Unless the girl has been around the block she is hesitant to openly ask for money or gifts.

5. Parents, siblings look for the girl to support them irrespective of how they earn it. Unless the parents are strictly religious or fairly well off they do not mind their girl selling sex.

6. Even the girl is tuned to supporting her family once they get to legal age or before. Not all girls want to go to AC and work in bars. They will look for a decent job and struggle because small jobs hardly pay any good money...You right!

Soapy Smith
09-10-13, 05:44
Out of ignorance, I want to ask, what's a Manila girl as opposed to a MBC girl. I know MBC is the name of the bar when I met p4p girls on my last visit. Is a Manila girl one you meet on DIA or FC? Thanks.I think WC was simply trying to suggest three contrasting scripts in terms of the financing that girls expect. The typical AC girl works in a barfine structure (or whatever they now call it.) The bar sets the amount, gives part of it to the girl, and the girls may like a tip in addition.

MBC girls are freelancers. Somebody recently referred to a barfine there; but if one exists it's a new development. The FLs at MBC expect an approximate market clearing price, which WC describes. The same women might go for less if picked up out of a mall, but the prices at MBC are elevated a little because the women talk to each other and put pressure on each other not to give in for lower prices. We do the same thing on this forum, but we're anonymous individuals who may not feel particularly pressured by online scolding from others we don't know. The girls, on the other hand, have to face each other in person, and some of these girls are tough as nails on each other. Think of it as a form of organized labor in a country where labor unions are virtually nonexistent.

By Manila girls I think he means the various other freelancers. Some are secured through online dating sites, others are procured by pimpettes for a few of our seasoned mongers who have managed to create procuring incentives for women they've been with previously. In general these girls do not have the community of other freelancers pressuring them to hold the prices up in an organized way. WC's point is that this category of girls generally goes a little cheaper.

There's of course another category of women who work in bars, clubs, and massage parlors with much higher house prices and girls' expectations for tips that roughly equal the house's price.

Red Kilt
09-10-13, 07:57
MBC girls are freelancers. Somebody recently referred to a barfine there; but if one exists it's a new development. The FLs at MBC expect an approximate market clearing price, which WC describes. The same women might go for less if picked up out of a mall, but the prices at MBC are elevated a little because the women talk to each other and put pressure on each other not to give in for lower prices. We do the same thing on this forum, but we're anonymous individuals who may not feel particularly pressured by online scolding from others we don't know. The girls, on the other hand, have to face each other in person, and some of these girls are tough as nails on each other. Think of it as a form of organized labor in a country where labor unions are virtually nonexistent.That paragraph is beautifully phrased SK.

I especially highlighted one of the best couple of sentences I have read on ISG for a long time.

A paragraph of distinction.

Slippery
09-10-13, 08:05
I also recall somebody mentioning barfining at MBC in the recent past but if my memory is correct, it was in the context of an inquiry. There's no such thing as a barfine at MBC. Its all between consenting parties.

WestCoast1
09-10-13, 11:58
Out of ignorance, I want to ask, what's a Manila girl as opposed to a MBC girl. I know MBC is the name of the bar when I met p4p girls on my last visit. Is a Manila girl one you meet on DIA or FC?

Thanks.IMP: I used the term 'manila girl' to refer to any gal in Manila. Girls in Manila generally go for more than girls elsewhere (the cost of living is considerably higher there than Cebu or the provinces). Overnight for 1000 (or nothing) is not unheard of, but its on the low end of the scale. I used that number for that reason. Overnight for FL is usually 2-5k. I was referring to the low price to ask the question: Is 1000 being cheapskate? The answer might be 'yes' from us, but 'no' from a girl. My question was, who defines 'cheap'?

Wicked Roger
09-10-13, 14:38
The night I arrived back in Bangers, I was treated to a slim 20 year old, a wet pussy, truly moaning as it got wetter, and full on french kisses. No singing, no fat ass, no big thighs, no drooping mouth. It was heavenly compared to the rubbish of Manila. It was. Well. Excellent. I guess if you are stuck in Manila you take what you can get. And the long-term expats know where to find the slim and sexy girls. For the rest (like me) when I visit I am just frustrated by the lack of quality. Even in Angeles. I guess that's what happens when the USA colonizes a place with shitty food and Mexican great grandparents DNA.I think you said it yourself earlier when you said in the previous FR "maybe I just don't know where to look" Very true or you are wearing very dark sunglasses and can't see much.

Either way as others have pointed out earlier you are wrong in the generalization and should look closer. Or maybe you are just a chubby chaser and does not like the chubbies you chase in Manila?

Blu8096
09-10-13, 18:47
Some pretty good posts about pay or not pay. I meet a lot of girls on DIA and Pinalove. Some are very clear that are looking for a very serious relationship and act like it. I stop pursuing those girls because I am not looking to be in love, or do I pretend I am. In my profile I say it. I say I am not looking for long-term relationship. Every girl can clearly read it and make a decision if they want to meet me. The girls who do talk to me have a idea what I am about and many times ask my why I don't want a long term relation ship. I tell them I travel to much and am only in one spot a short time. They generally do not mind and still want to meet me. I do not typically feel bad when I have sex with them. I treat them very nice, go to dinner or dancing and then if they will we have sex. Which 98% end up in my bed. When the next day comes I always give money no matter what. No matter if they ask or not I give at least 1000P. I say I wanted to take you to dinner tonight but I can't so please enjoy dinner with your friend on me. They usually take it with not issue and a smile.

I think the main thing is to treat them very well. Don't treat them like they are hookers. I have a lot of repeat girls now who I don't have to pay but do so anyways because I want to help them a bit. Some are really hot but they keep coming back, even with a ton of men pursuing them. I like to think it is not because of the money-because it is not much. They can easily earn more. I think it is because they can get away from their issues and for a day be treated special. I don't feel bad because of that, I feel happy to be with them for that time and believe they are happy during that time also.

Hutsori
09-11-13, 03:38
Yes, many foreigners will splurge at home, however once they reach Phi become cheapies.I don't dispute your experience, but I believe it is quite limited, though one shared by most here, including me at one point. When I was in the Philippines before it was what I experienced, mainly because I allowed myself to be in the ghetto populated by the poorly educated and easily available p4p. I can do so for a week or two, but hanging out with those girls gets mind numbing for a year. Her having a good noggin on her shoulders is important to me. I recall you insisted that Filipinas can't write either. Sure many can't, but not all. Or maybe they're dumbing it down for her reader's benefit? Moreover, none of the girls I've met watch cartoons. Or colour books with crayons. When you aim low, you're most likely to strike low.

I'm selective with the girls I meet online. Firstly, I never initiate contact via messages or interests. My profile receives a lot of views and nothing more, which tells me they're not interested. After she initiates contact obviously I read her profile, which we all know could be lifted from elsewhere. I continue with the online messages for a few days rather than jump to IM or Skype because these messages can't be lifted from elsewhere. If I feel confident that her language and career knowledge is commensurate to her level of claimed uni or higher education and professional employment then it's IM or Skype. I don't meet those who are only high school educated or unemployed, i.e. the desperate.

Here's a recent conversation with T, a 31-year-old single accountant with no kids.


T: I was randomly checking out this website and was deciding whether I should join and post my profile. I started reading your profile and had the exciting feeling inside of me and I thought, that girl in your thoughts is so lucky, I'm jealous!

Me: Thanks for reading my profile and sending me your message. I'm flattered I've made you tingly and excited.

Don't be jealous; the girl I was imagining could be you.

Since you understand what I'm looking for, and you messaged me, I know you're looking to share intimate encounters together. I'd like to invite you to my condo so we can share ourselves with each other. If you're interested in adult fun let's continue the conversation.

*we exchange several more messages for a few days, and then she goes dark for a week. This doesn't bother me as I don't want to appear over eager by frequently messaging "Are we going to meet? Huh? Huh?" The other day I noticed she revisited my profile but didn't send me a message*

Me: Stopped by and didn't say hi? Should I be offended or heartbroken?

T: LOL, I was reading again your profile.

Me: A fan, yeah? Heck, I write a lot of vignettes. Here is one you ought to enjoy. [snip]

T: Will read this one tonight.

Me: Light some candles and pour yourself a glass of claret first to set the mood.

*the following day*

T: I crave for you! I need you deep inside me!A few more messages are exchanged about when to meet, we skype to check each other out, and she came over.

Econo Tech
09-11-13, 07:33
I also recall somebody mentioning barfining at MBC in the recent past but if my memory is correct, it was in the context of an inquiry. There's no such thing as a barfine at MBC. Its all between consenting parties.MBC is far far from barfine, though of late, some self appointed mamasans (those who have gone by the use-by date) drop words like barfine etc. Don't mean that is barfine per-se. It is just a different name used to 'strike the deal'.

MBC has and had never allowed barfine. That's been their business plan from LA Cafe days.

Blu8096
09-11-13, 20:02
I joined but did not pay. I am getting a ton of emails from girls- but I can't respond because I am not a paid member.

So is it true these girls are contacting me or is it Bull shit because FC wants me to pay the fee?

Anyone using it and thinks its worth it? I already use dia and pinalove.

Hutsori
09-11-13, 20:23
I joined but did not pay. I am getting a ton of emails from girls- but I can't respond because I am not a paid member.

So is it true these girls are contacting me or is it Bull shit because FC wants me to pay the fee?

Anyone using it and thinks its worth it? I already use dia and pinalove.It's true. It's worth it.

Bob Bowie
09-11-13, 21:14
I joined but did not pay. I am getting a ton of emails from girls- but I can't respond because I am not a paid member.

So is it true these girls are contacting me or is it Bull shit because FC wants me to pay the fee?

Anyone using it and thinks its worth it? I already use dia and pinalove.FC often sorts the profiles by the most recently logged in. If you don't log in for a couple of days, you'll only receive a few Interest notes or emails. I just renewed last week and have been overwhelmed by all of the responses I have gotten from my basic cut and paste introductions. Be sure to take advantage of the Advanced Search option.

CaliPro
09-11-13, 22:58
I joined but did not pay. I am getting a ton of emails from girls- but I can't respond because I am not a paid member.

So is it true these girls are contacting me or is it Bull shit because FC wants me to pay the fee?

Anyone using it and thinks its worth it? I already use dia and pinalove.FC is easily the best online platform for meeting Filipinas. They have the most girls and the best looking girls.

Yes its true they are contacting you.

Pay that fee.

Blu8096
09-12-13, 03:10
Thanks guys for all the feedback. I appreciate all your help and will follow your advice and join.

Regards,

Hutsori
09-12-13, 03:46
FC is easily the best online platform for meeting Filipinas. They have the most girls and the best looking girls.Certainly has the most girls of the sites I frequent. Tagged also has a lot of nice looking girls, the number of which is quite high. I think the best girls (looks + smarts) are on okcupid, but the size of the community is much smaller. The site isn't as user friendly as many of the others, also.

Micky Mouse
09-12-13, 05:26
I am in Manila Otis area for few days. This is my first mongering scene in Manila. Have done in Davao.

Need advice / help of experienced mongers in this area.

Appreciate it,

As always happy and safe mongering.

MM

CaliPro
09-12-13, 05:32
I am in Manila Otis area for few days. This is my first mongering scene in Manila. Have done in Davao.

Need advice / help of experienced mongers in this area.

Appreciate it,

As always happy and safe mongering.

MMAll you need to know is 4 places.

Manila Bay Cafe (MBC) FL's.

Havana Cafe.

EDSA.

P. Burgos St.

Check my map for locations etc.

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zW_noa9126aI.kampoQlaMeVE

OzzieSuds
09-12-13, 06:50
All you need to know is 4 places.

Manila Bay Cafe (MBC) FL's.

Havana Cafe.

EDSA.

P. Burgos St.

Check my map for locations etc.

https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zW_noa9126aI.kampoQlaMeVEFantastic map my freind. I will put a link to Reports of Distinction. Subsequent edit - but there is no R of D thread for the Phils. Jackson?

CaliPro
09-12-13, 14:57
Fantastic map my freind. I will put a link to Reports of Distinction. Subsequent edit - but there is no R of D thread for the Phils. Jackson?Thanks. I spent a lot of time developing that baby. Will drop one for Cebu and Dumaguete as well.

You won't find a better map or a more extensive list of places in Manila any where on the net.

FLT09
09-13-13, 04:14
That's it in a nutshell. Cali knows the entire metro area of 13, 000, 000 people. Be sure to travel to the listed places in the order he has put them in. Soooo convenient. Yes, only 4 places you need to know about. What an amateur.The map he posted is actually useful. I'm assuming the 4 places he listed are his personal preference. No need to knock the guy for adding something useful.

FLT.

Wicked Roger
09-13-13, 04:25
The map he posted is actually useful. I'm assuming the 4 places he listed are his personal preference. No need to knock the guy for adding something useful.

FLT.I think Slippery was saying those 4 places EVERYONE knows. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure that and a RTFF would actually tell you more. No need for a map for MBC, HC, ESDA and P Burgos so better / easier asking a taxi driver IMHO

Buko Max
09-13-13, 10:11
The map he posted is actually useful. I'm assuming the 4 places he listed are his personal preference. No need to knock the guy for adding something useful.Slippery aka 'de la Cruz' is no stranger to snide comments. His signal-to-noise ratio, that is the amount of useful information to irrelevant and inappropriate posts are rather low.

Slippery
09-13-13, 11:19
Slippery aka 'de la Cruz' is no stranger to snide comments. His signal-to-noise ratio, that is the amount of useful information to irrelevant and inappropriate posts are rather low.I have found no redeeming qualities in CaliAmateur's posts. He brags of having no intention of paying, and comes off as a "know it all" while telling us all what a pretty boy he is. The Amateur listed four very well known places in Metro Manila that any 18 year old kid with a free membership could list after spending an hour or less on this site.

Should you find BM, that my posts are irrelevant and / or inappropriate, you know where the ignore button is.

Fast Eddie 48
09-15-13, 21:55
I think Slippery was saying those 4 places EVERYONE knows. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure that and a RTFF would actually tell you more. No need for a map for MBC, HC, ESDA and P Burgos so better / easier asking a taxi driver IMHOTo Wicked Roger.

I agree Manila is a big city with many place to get girl and taxi driver know all the casa and club that never post here but some club paid taxi driver a comission to bring customer there, most of the place Naive boy Cali post like EDSA, p Burgo and Havana is not good place to go price is too damn high, I pick up some FL at Harrison Plaza a few week ago that will go 1500p for LT 3 hr back to my hotel.

Fast Eddie 48

FLT09
09-16-13, 04:02
I plan on doing some more extensive FRs when I get back home and I am not on my phone.

First night at EDSA was a good time, enjoyed the bars. Barfine is expensive there but for one night it was ok.

I am in Makati now and took advantage of the happy hour specials instead of taking FL girls. 1750 barfine and 2000 LT. From 7pm until 10am. To me it is worth the money. The barfine doubles after 7. Now rjat I know that I will not barfine after 7.

Funny side note, I went to a bar with the girl to watch a show and today a girl from DIA tjat I have been talking to on skype messages me saying she saw me out with a girl. Hasn't scared her away though. Still meeting with her today.

FLT.

WestCoast1
09-16-13, 05:13
Funny side note, I went to a bar with the girl to watch a show and today a girl from DIA tjat I have been talking to on skype messages me saying she saw me out with a girl. Hasn't scared her away though. Still meeting with her today.Welcome to filipines!

YellowStar45
09-16-13, 05:16
I think Slippery was saying those 4 places EVERYONE knows. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure that and a RTFF would actually tell you more. No need for a map for MBC, HC, ESDA and P Burgos so better / easier asking a taxi driver IMHOHello Charles, here we talked before I am going back to Cebu in Nov to Dec first hit me up if your in town my first stop Manila a day or two, thanks Charles.

Micky Mouse
09-16-13, 07:50
I wish I can monger in the night; my wife is with me all the time. So the best alternative is make some excuse and do morning or afternoon mongering.

I stay close to Robinson Malate. I noticed so many night activity specially at Belagio Square- including some girls dressed in Kimono,

Please share your daytime recommendations and any in call places.

Happy and safe mongering.

MM

Brown Rail
09-16-13, 11:06
I was told last night from a girl that abortion is illegal in the Philippines.

Is this true? What do you do if you get a girl pregnant?It is illegal, but widely available. The options are the "old woman" who knows how to make the medicine from plants and give the right massage, the gyn who does it quietly, or a medical abortion. Most girls know someone who has done it, and how to find the old woman. Else most gyns when asked will point the poor girl to another who will do it. The old woman costs about P10,000. The gyns surgical abortion will cost P15, 000-25,000.

For the medical abortion, you can try mailing the pills, they are widely available. There are also NGOs that will mail the pills to a woman in the Philippines. It is the simplest and lowest cost method, subject to the postal service losing or stealing them. Google it. Of course getting her to take them, and take them correctly is a challenge.

The real issue is whether your girl wants the abortion, and in the fist instance probably the answer is she does not. In most cases they want that baby, with our without your cooperation, and it will be a difficult conversation to change their mind. There is the Catholic responsibility to defend life. Filipinos love babies and are very family oriented. It is quite easy and now common to have a baby as a single mom, and have your family help raise it in the province. You might be surprised to find that her parents will be more upset about an abortion than about their daughter's pregnancy and the prospect of another baby. In fact they might be thrilled about the new baby.

Another consideration is the potential legal ramifications. Increasingly it is becoming possible to pursue child support into other countries. Also, if you have property in the Philippines the baby will have legal rights to it. Let's say you were to end up there, and with another family. This child will have rights against you and your estate. Much to the anger of your actual family.

Be prepared.

Hutsori
09-16-13, 11:08
I wish I can monger in the night; my wife is with me all the time. So the best alternative is make some excuse and do morning or afternoon mongering.

I stay close to Robinson Malate. I noticed so many night activity specially at Belagio Square- including some girls dressed in Kimono,

Please share your daytime recommendations and any in call places.

Happy and safe mongering.

MMIf both time and your wife's leash is short your best bet is MBC. There are always women there, but what's on offer at 9 or 10 am... Lord knows? Early afternoon should have a better selection. You can always wander around Robinson's; plenty of FRs in the forum re this place and where to spend your time looking . Anything involving in-call, whether a dating-site girl, and escort, or a masseuse will likely involve her arriving later than planned, which may be too risky for you, but a girl who works the night shift at a call centre and finishes between 6-8 am is a good choice too. If you can break fee of the wife at 8 or 9 pm then dash to MBC, chat to some girls you fancy, explain your predicament, and exchange numbers with those who can accommodate your schedule.

Slippery
09-16-13, 11:45
I go walking at Robinsons nearly every day a bit after opening time and sometimes I get the "hello sir" 3-4 times and other times nothing. The beauty of Robinsons is that Eurotel is across the street from the Adriatico (Burger King) exit. You can also go out that same exit, take a short left to Salas Street, go right on Salas and walk 2 short blocks to MBC. Been a long time since I was in that building in the morning or early afternoon though so I can't remark on the fish in the barrel at that hour.

As per Bellagio Square, I used to date a waitress who worked at one of the places there and I'd frequently sit outside watching customers at the various places. I never saw obvious P4P at Bellagio. Seemed the place at night was mostly co-workers or friends for get togethers.

Red Kilt
09-16-13, 12:39
I go walking at Robinsons nearly every day a bit after opening time and sometimes I get the "hello sir" 3-4 times and other times nothing. The beauty of Robinsons is that Eurotel is across the street from the Adriatico (Burger King) exit. You can also go out that same exit, take a short left to Salas Street, go right on Salas and walk 2 short blocks to MBC.I don't want to appear picky but as a regular Robinson's stroller I would have described Eurotel as most easily reached by using the Pedro Gil exit as it is directly across the street.

Maybe you have Eurotel confused with another hotel?

An easier route to MBC is to go out the Robinson's Padre Faura entrance and walk 2 blocks to the left to M H del Pilar you come to Amazonia on the corner. Turn left and one block ahead on the right is MBC. Always good to drop in Amazonia before moving on I reckon.

Seeking clarification only.

Blu8096
09-16-13, 21:59
To Wicked Roger.

I agree Manila is a big city with many place to get girl and taxi driver know all the casa and club that never post here but some club paid taxi driver a comission to bring customer there, most of the place Naive boy Cali post like EDSA, p Burgo and Havana is not good place to go price is too damn high, I pick up some FL at Harrison Plaza a few week ago that will go 1500p for LT 3 hr back to my hotel.

Fast Eddie 48When I was there last month a DIA girl wanted to meet me a Harrison plaza. I have never been so I was suspect and did not go. Is it ok there? What is it a discount mall for locals?

Thanks in advance.

Blu8096
09-16-13, 22:04
I wish I can monger in the night; my wife is with me all the time. So the best alternative is make some excuse and do morning or afternoon mongering.

I stay close to Robinson Malate. I noticed so many night activity specially at Belagio Square- including some girls dressed in Kimono,

Please share your daytime recommendations and any in call places.

Happy and safe mongering.

MMI just stayed there for a month. I did not like the selection outside Robinson and the girls in the kimono is a karaoke place.

Just go to MBC or LA café as they call it (by far the best spot). Its really close, all fl. Nice daytime selection, I hit some cute spinners there in daytime. Only challenge is were to take them. I am not up on that one.

Bellagio square kinda sucks. Its a party spot for young college kids maybe really highschool. I noticed no action there at all. Not a good choice.

Blu8096
09-16-13, 22:10
It is illegal, but widely available. The options are the "old woman" who knows how to make the medicine from plants and give the right massage, the gyn who does it quietly, or a medical abortion. Most girls know someone who has done it, and how to find the old woman. Else most gyns when asked will point the poor girl to another who will do it. The old woman costs about P10, 000. The gyns surgical abortion will cost P15, 000-25, 000.

For the medical abortion, you can try mailing the pills, they are widely available. There are also NGOs that will mail the pills to a woman in the Philippines. It is the simplest and lowest cost method, subject to the postal service losing or stealing them. Google it. Of course getting her to take them, and take them correctly is a challenge.

The real issue is whether your girl wants the abortion, and in the fist instance probably the answer is she does not. In most cases they want that baby, with our without your cooperation, and it will be a difficult conversation to change their mind. There is the Catholic responsibility to defend life. Filipinos love babies and are very family oriented. It is quite easy and now common to have a baby as a single mom, and have your family help raise it in the province. You might be surprised to find that her parents will be more upset about an abortion than about their daughter's pregnancy and the prospect of another baby. In fact they might be thrilled about the new baby.

Another consideration is the potential legal ramifications. Increasingly it is becoming possible to pursue child support into other countries. Also, if you have property in the Philippines the baby will have legal rights to it. Let's say you were to end up there, and with another family. This child will have rights against you and your estate. Much to the anger of your actual family.

Be prepared.Well she claimed she was pregnant and missed her period. She wanted the baby but I told her no and she listened. She said she can get the pill and it would cost 1500 for the set of pills. I wired the cah and she claims she took them and had her period. Now. Is it true. First I didn't believe it- but I shot inside her so much she could be having quadruplets! Day after day I creamed here so its for sure a possibility. Next she only asked for 1500 which is really nothing. If she was scamming me she should have asked for 10, 000P. Well in any matter it was only p1500, no issue. She says ni baby so I a mhappy. I will be back in a month to fill her her up again! . LOL. Just kidding, I will be taking precautions. I will only shoot in her ass from now on!

Radical Guy
09-16-13, 23:07
Let's say you were to end up there, and with another family. This child will have rights against you and your estate. Much to the anger of your actual family.Not to mince words, but if you father a child, then he or she IS your "actual family."

RG

Radical Guy
09-16-13, 23:09
I wish I can monger in the night; my wife is with me all the time. So the best alternative is make some excuse and do morning or afternoon mongering.

I stay close to Robinson Malate. I noticed so many night activity specially at Belagio Square- including some girls dressed in Kimono,

Please share your daytime recommendations and any in call places.As an alternative, maybe you could persuade your wife to have a threesome. Ask her, she might surprise you.

Slippery
09-16-13, 23:19
Maybe I got the street names mixed up RK. A quick left and a quick right out the Burger King exit puts you on Salas for a short walk to MBC. 2 minutes max. I could swear that's Adriatico but could be wrong.

WestCoast1
09-17-13, 01:16
Maybe I got the street names mixed up RK. A quick left and a quick right out the Burger King exit puts you on Salas for a short walk to MBC. 2 minutes max. I could swear that's Adriatico but could be wrong.Come out of Burger King and you face Adriatico. You turn right on Adriatico and walk a block to Salas. Cross Adriatico and take Salas over to del Pilar. I think?

Red Kilt
09-17-13, 03:54
A quick left and a quick right out the Burger King exit puts you on Salas for a short walk to MBC. 2 minutes max. I could swear that's Adriatico but could be wrong.You're right about that Slipps. It is Adriatico but Eurotel is not on Adriatico.

Eurotel is opposite the Pedro Gil entrance (what is most commonly referred to as the MAIN entrance).

As an aside in case anyone doesn't know where the Ermita/Malate boundary is.
Eurotel is on the side of Pedro Gil that is actually in Malate.
Robinson's (across the street) is actually in Ermita.

Ekspat
09-17-13, 08:56
The real issue is whether your girl wants the abortion, and in the fist instance probably the answer is she does not.Especially if the father is a Westerner, then they hope for blonde hair, nice nose and blue eyes and so on.

Sky Ryder
09-17-13, 11:30
Skip, Hutsori, and Red Kilt.

Just a note to say thanks and add my report from the one-nighter at the Airport Hotel. I agree, the only good things about this hotel are the location and free shuttle.

Moving on, checked in, grabbed a taxi to EDSA. Walked and made a bee line for Firehouse. Some cute gals, not many customers and I was surrounded in about 15 seconds by three "non-dancers" IOW, they weren't going to disrobe on stage. Two because it would spoil any illusion of a great body, and one (who was very cute) was her second night and she was "shy". Shy, you're going to suck a stranger's member for money. Amongst other things. I digress.

Talked to the mommie while trying to sip my SML and get an unimpeded view of the dancers. She told me the bar fine was P1953, I thought, okay that is reasonable. But the ladies tips are P3000. I almost spit my beer. So, one beer for me, no ladies drinks, and total bar fine would exceed P5000. I didn't see anything even close to being that valuable.

I left after the beer, to the pleas of the mommie asking for a tip. I asked for what service. And she said to help her out. I politely declined. I got the exact same quote at two other places in EDSA and still didn't really get a vibe worth that much. IMHO.

Taxied to Air Force One, again my first visit, told me minimum for a table to sit with a girl was P500, which included two beers, so I said beers are P250, she said no it is P500 and includes two beers. I couldn't do the math. The girls vary in price but the sitting fees do not included drinks for them and the exit fees are pretty steep I gather. I took a look to see if there was anything worth that investment and didn't find anything I would pay more than P5000 to take home. Wound up at Flt 168, and took a "economy" room and a really cute girl, for about P3000. It was two hours of fun and no drama. This place I would repeat. I didn't try Star Fleet, but may the next time, just to check that box.

In the end, I decided that my taste tend to run to Havana and to a lesser degree MBC, at least in Manila. I guess I like the idea of a free lancer.

EDSA seemed like an expensive version of AC bars, with a lot more pressure to buy and the quality wasn't a big upgrade.

I truly do appreciate all the advice and guidance from a few of the senior members. It did make a difference.

Sky

X Man
09-17-13, 14:06
No offense, but I use the fag method to figure my way out at the Ermita Robinsons mall. To the west is P. Faura wing, middle is Adriactico wing, and the west is P. Gil. Left to right, fag. As RK explains, if you cross the street at the g end, you are in Malate. The g end is also where Starbucks, National bookstore, and some of the better restaurans are located. On the east end, the f end, you'll be near Cherry blossoms hotel.

I'm sorry if the word is offensive to some, I just use it as a mnemonic. X.


You're right about that Slipps. It is Adriatico but Eurotel is not on Adriatico.

Eurotel is opposite the Pedro Gil entrance (what is most commonly referred to as the MAIN entrance).

As an aside in case anyone doesn't know where the Ermita / Malate boundary is.

Eurotel is on the side of Pedro Gil that is actually in Malate.

Robinson's (across the street) is actually in Ermita.

Red Kilt
09-17-13, 14:30
No offense, but I use the fag method to figure my way out at the Ermita Robinsons mall. To the west is P. Faura wing, middle is Adriactico wing, and the west is P. Gil. Left to right, fag. As RK explains, if you cross the street at the g end, you are in Malate. The g end is also where Starbucks, National bookstore, and some of the better restaurans are located. On the east end, the f end, you'll be near Cherry blossoms hotel.I think it is easier to follow the prominent signs everywhere X rather than clutter your brain up trying to remember a mnemonic that might confuse you when you see some of the ladyboys outside the "g" entrance.

BTW. Starbucks is undergoing refurbishment and is closed at present, so no places for the oldies to hang out and watch the passing parade.

Hutsori
09-17-13, 23:34
Especially if the father is a Westerner, then they hope for blonde hair, nice nose and blue eyes and so on.Mr Smarty Pants here used to remind them of simple Mendelian genetics so that she'd understand that "our babies" wouldn't have my green eyes, even when she has Spanish blood. Oh how they'd wail. I have since stopped dashing their "dreams" ;P

Hutsori
09-17-13, 23:41
I couldn't do the math.It's "consumable" maths, which is pretty common at KTV's and nightclubs if you want a table. Think of it like a prepaid phone card.

Good FR for Flt 168. Thanks.

Ulose
09-17-13, 23:57
Hello everyone,

I'm new here well not to new first time writing anything. I will travel to the Philippines in March and will stay in Mandaluyong, Manila. Can anyone tell me about that place? I will be staying in a Condo there. I have met some women on FC. Is that site legit? I will be there for 15 days. I want to have a good time someone help me out with some info. I've been to Brazil 6 times and this is my first Asian country. I hope the Philippines is on the same level as Brazil.

Soapy Smith
09-18-13, 02:35
Come out of Burger King and you face Adriatico. You turn right on Adriatico and walk a block to Salas. Cross Adriatico and take Salas over to del Pilar. I think?Come out the exit by Burger King and you are facing Adriatico. Turn left, go less than half a block, then turn right onto Romero Salas. You may want to walk in the street out of traffic, because the sidewalk along these areas of Adriatico and Romero Salas are narrow and usually have lots of panhandlers and persistent street merchants. Just be observant about vehicles approaching from behind you, including motorcycles. Two blocks on Salas, and you are at del Pilar; MBC is on the far right corner.

Slip's directions to MBC were correct; but Eurotel is, as RK describes, across from the Pedro Gil entrance. TGIF and National Bookstore also have exterior doors that open to the Pedro Gil side. Padre Faura is to the North, Burger King and Adriatico are to the West, and Pedro Gil and Eurotel are to the South.

Soapy Smith
09-18-13, 02:50
BTW. Starbucks is undergoing refurbishment and is closed at present, so no places for the oldies to hang out and watch the passing parade.Oldie mongers watching the parade of FLs or oldie FLs watching the parade of us ugly old Westerners? In days gone by I used to see FLs hanging out at the edges of McDonald's, Kenny Roger's, and the all-you-can-eat place near the beginning of the Padre Faura wing-assuming it's still there.

Red Kilt
09-18-13, 04:40
Oldie mongers watching the parade of FLs or oldie FLs watching the parade of us ugly old Westerners? In days gone by I used to see FLs hanging out at the edges of McDonald's, Kenny Roger's, and the all-you-can-eat place near the beginning of the Padre Faura wing-assuming it's still there.I guess it's "all of the above SK".

Nowadays the FLs are not so obvious hanging around so I guess security must have instructions to move them along.

Always a few hanging around near the foot of the escalators inside the Pedro Gil door, but you need to watch for the tell-tale signs as many other women use that spot as a rendezvous point to meet chat mates or friends.

There are a couple of women who I see walking around the mall every time I visit, but I have never seen them with any guys nor have they ever taken any interest in me (OK. No smart retorts please).

If I have a meeting arranged I always move it to either Level 2 or along to the front of National Book Store or even inside UCC Coffee as that moves them away from looking like a pick-up option.

I just wish some of the old "Westerners" (and South Asians et al.) would not leer at passing women so much.

The old guys who sit in front of all of the coffee and snack eateries on Level 1 (Figaro's, Cinnabon, Cafe France etc) are so damn obvious in their ogling. The sad thing is that the same guys are there every time I visit and nobody takes any notice of them any more.

Slippery
09-18-13, 10:40
Invariably they approach me when I'm on foot with the "hello sir."

Red Kilt
09-18-13, 11:14
Invariably they approach me when I'm on foot with the "hello sir."Yes of course they do Slippery but those girls are not always there. As I suggested, the security moves them along and doesn't allow them to loiter in any one spot for too long.

I was referring to a couple of women who walk around there all day every day but don't seem to take any notice of anybody else. Weird.

As with every mall, if there is a pick-up girl (as the locals call them) around they will find you with the smile and the "Hello Sir" every time

Exoticspirit
09-18-13, 13:05
If I took a Victory Liner bus in from AC into Pasay terminal at say 2 am to 4 am, how easy would it be to get a taxi there to get to the airport?

Sammon
09-18-13, 14:34
Where can I get Indian brand generic Viagra in Malate? Like Kamagra, penagra etc.

Do nopt trust Viagra vendors.

Red Kilt
09-18-13, 14:53
If I took a Victory Liner bus in from AC into Pasay terminal at say 2 am to 4 am, how easy would it be to get a taxi there to get to the airport?Very easy. You will have to beat the drivers away with a big stick there will be so many waiting for you.

It's a good situation because you can insist on meter only and keep moving along until you find one, but add on 20 php or so because it is a very slow time for these guys.

Cool Traveler
09-18-13, 23:35
I joined but did not pay. I am getting a ton of emails from girls- but I can't respond because I am not a paid member.

So is it true these girls are contacting me or is it Bull shit because FC wants me to pay the fee?

Anyone using it and thinks its worth it? I already use dia and pinalove.Yes, it is true they want to talk to you. I am a paid subscriber. What I found was the chances of hooking up through FC and DIA are just about the same. And DIA is free. I also find that, there are a whole lot more girls on DIA then FC. Further, I find a whole lot more employed women on FC. I am more into women between 28 and 35, so I have been very lucky on FC. I have maintained relationships with couple of them.

CaliPro
09-19-13, 01:46
Yes, it is true they want to talk to you. I am a paid subscriber. What I found was the chances of hooking up through FC and DIA are just about the same. And DIA is free. I also find that, there are a whole lot more girls on DIA then FC. Further, I find a whole lot more employed women on FC. I am more into women between 28 and 35, so I have been very lucky on FC. I have maintained relationships with couple of them.I feel like there are more girls on FC than DIA.

For each age there are around 800-1,000 girls that have logged on in a weeks time.

Maybe I haven't spent a lot of time on DIA to run the exact numbers.

How stupid can DIA be only allowing 1 bloody picture? Not only do girls use angled deceptive pictures, some even use completely fake pictures. On FC they will normally always have 1 picture in the group that gives them away.

I find FC to be far superior and user friendly than DIA. Love how I can see all the girls pictures without leaving the search page, love how I can add them to my favorites and see it in the search so to not click on them twice, love how I can send out the same copied and paste message etc.

Bumz Rush
09-20-13, 05:04
And love walking the malls, and looking at the lovely sights.

I enjoy the smiles, and giggles as I pass.

I enjoy sitting drinking my coffee and watching.

Then my Pinay wife joins me, and I still enjoy watching the girls. But now they actually look longer, and with a slight smile.

My English friend, same age (66) married a 23 year old Pinay, she has a 2 year old child.

They have a very sweet, very very nanny. Who spends all her time flirting with me, in front of his wife, and my wife.

WTF does she want my balls on a platter for breakfast.

BumZ

PrinceMak
09-20-13, 07:13
Hi,

Would the senior members be kind enough to advice me on the standard ST & LT prices for both MBC & Havana cafe girls.

Thanks

AlLostInSpace13
09-21-13, 09:13
Hi,

Would the senior members be kind enough to advice me on the standard ST & LT prices for both MBC & Havana cafe girls.

ThanksMy recollection is that MBC starts at about 1, 500PHP for ST. I don't go to Havana cafe often, but I've heard that the ST there is about 1, 000 more than MBC. Don't have LT prices. Why would you want to keep them overnight in your room anyway? (And I don't mean no disrespect to the ladies.) Just common sense.

Spaceman

Pip Jaeger
09-21-13, 09:38
Hi,

Would the senior members be kind enough to advice me on the standard ST & LT prices for both MBC & Havana cafe girls.

ThanksThere's no set ST / LT pricing. Those places are not bars in the same sense as those on Burgos St or in AC. They're simply places where FL's, both novices and semi-pro's, hang out at. It's up to you to negotiate, but 1, 500 is a good starting point. You can try for less, say at 1, 000 to 1, 200, with the incentive of a generous tip if the service is good. Some may go for it, depends on a lot of things like how you look and how badly they need your donation, but others will balk; especially those who think their pussy's are made of gold. But no matter what, be sure to agree in advance just how much your donation will be and what services will be performed as well as the amount of time she will stay.

PrinceMak
09-21-13, 10:07
There's no set ST / LT pricing. Those places are not bars in the same sense as those on Burgos St or in AC. They're simply places where FL's, both novices and semi-pro's, hang out at. It's up to you to negotiate, but 1, 500 is a good starting point. You can try for less, say at 1, 000 to 1, 200, with the incentive of a generous tip if the service is good. Some may go for it, depends on a lot of things like how you look and how badly they need your donation, but others will balk; especially those who think their pussy's are made of gold. But no matter what, be sure to agree in advance just how much your donation will be and what services will be performed as well as the amount of time she will stay.Thanks for the info. I understand that they are no set prices like in the other gogo bars and its upto us to negotiate it. According to what I gather by doing some RTFF. Short time means about 2-3 hrs with 2 pops. Am I right about that?

PrinceMak
09-21-13, 10:09
My recollection is that MBC starts at about 1, 500PHP for ST. I don't go to Havana cafe often, but I've heard that the ST there is about 1, 000 more than MBC. Don't have LT prices. Why would you want to keep them overnight in your room anyway? (And I don't mean no disrespect to the ladies.) Just common sense.

SpacemanThanks bro for the info. Even I am looking for a ST. But just wanted to know the LT prices too in case I really fancy the chick and her service and decide to change it into LT. And by ST I assume it is 2-3 hrs with 2 pops. Am I right?

Ekspat
09-21-13, 15:57
Why would you want to keep them overnight in your room anyway?For another nice pop in the morning, I like that. Then let her go home and go to breakfast. Perfect start of a day!

Zeppelin029
09-21-13, 16:49
Hello folks,

I touch down in Manila on Monday. Looking forward to it!

Gathered enough info, but in the interests of variety, (and at the risk of being told to "RTFF". I searched, nothing came up ok?) , I came across a YouTube video showing an "elite KTV"? Anyony know anything about it or similar places? If its overpriced crap ill give it a pass.

Otherwise, hope to contribute my two cents soon.

Cheers

D Cups
09-21-13, 16:52
Hi Eks, ya, morning wood is good. Seen any busty ones lately? I'll be in Manila in December and Cebu early Jan. Cheers, mate!


For another nice pop in the morning, I like that. Then let her go home and go to breakfast. Perfect start of a day!

Soapy Smith
09-21-13, 23:25
And by ST I assume it is 2-3 hrs with 2 pops. Am I right?Two to three hours is usually about right, but some may assume one pop. If you're a minute man, she might be okay with two pops. Best to be clear about what's expected before you leave the bar.

Ekspat
09-22-13, 02:18
Seen any busty ones lately? I'll be in Manila in December!Will be there (mostly Burgos) October and November, will have a look for you. Cheers!

BrainDrain
09-22-13, 03:29
Where can I get Indian brand generic Viagra in Malate? Like Kamagra, penagra etc.

Do nopt trust Viagra vendors.I would try those 'generic' pharmacies. I bought some Viagra there on the last trip. 4 x 50mg was P350. There is a place of one end of P Borgus.

I don't trust the street vendors either.

Key Master
09-22-13, 20:46
Two to three hours is usually about right, but some may assume one pop. If you're a minute man, she might be okay with two pops. Best to be clear about what's expected before you leave the bar.I second that on being very clear what you are asking for. I think most hard core pros are going to try and get you off quick and leave when you are finished. They may even rush you and start complaining if you don't pick well. Choose wisely.

Mbsl65
09-23-13, 00:29
I am in Manila now and will stay here until 25th of Sept. I am staying in New World Hotel. They are going thru renovation. I got my room thru booking. Com and got much better deal than agoda. Com was offering. Last night I was in Havana Cafe. Not too many hotties. Many 5/10-6/10 girls and not too crowded. Greenbelt cleaned up the area and you don't see aggressive ladyboys around. I am much interested on local non-pro talents. Today, I setup three interviews. Lets see what will happen.

Rain in Manila is still going on and not too much fun to go around. For sure it is not the right time to visit Manila.

Key Master
09-23-13, 00:40
I am in Manila now and will stay here until 25th of Sept. I am staying in New World Hotel. They are going thru renovation. I got my room thru booking. Com and got much better deal than agoda. Com was offering. Last night I was in Havana Cafe. Not too many hotties. Many 5/10-6/10 girls and not too crowded. Greenbelt cleaned up the area and you don't see aggressive ladyboys around. I am much interested on local non-pro talents. Today, I setup three interviews. Lets see what will happen.

Rain in Manila is still going on and not too much fun to go around. For sure it is not the right time to visit Manila.Thanks for the update. Good to hear about the bakla situation at Greenbelt if that is so. Sunday. Tuesday can be pretty hit and miss in a lot of places. Havana is kind of up and down as it is. I don't usually expect to find someone I really want when I go there. I go there to check in though and just chill.

Red Kilt
09-23-13, 02:39
Last night I was in Havana Cafe. Not too many hotties. Many 5/10-6/10 girls and not too crowded. Greenbelt cleaned up the area and you don't see aggressive ladyboys around. I am much interested on local non-pro talents. Today, I setup three interviews. Lets see what will happen.

Rain in Manila is still going on and not too much fun to go around. For sure it is not the right time to visit Manila.Havana is always dead if it is raining because you cannot sit outside without cover.

I suspect your interviews will drop out today Mbs unless they live close by. Many streets, particularly those around Malate, Ermita, Tondo and Malabon are all flooded today and most people will probably stay home because of lack of access to much of Manila.

It has rained pretty much non-stop for a week now. Not much fun at all.

Blu8096
09-23-13, 02:40
I am in Manila now and will stay here until 25th of Sept. I am staying in New World Hotel. They are going thru renovation. I got my room thru booking. Com and got much better deal than agoda. Com was offering. Last night I was in Havana Cafe. Not too many hotties. Many 5/10-6/10 girls and not too crowded. Greenbelt cleaned up the area and you don't see aggressive ladyboys around. I am much interested on local non-pro talents. Today, I setup three interviews. Lets see what will happen.

Rain in Manila is still going on and not too much fun to go around. For sure it is not the right time to visit Manila.Yes, I noticed that the LB's were not to be found there. It was great because two trips ago way to many of the freaks. I did not pull one girl from Havana last trip. To expensive I thought for a average looking girl. Not as great of a spot as it used to be. I found La Café to be a much better spot and very negotiable prices.

I did very well on DIA and gained some hot and young regulars that don't ask for money. But I give it anyways. WHY. Like my hero Charlie Sheen says "you don't pay for sex, you pay for them to leave". I agree with those words 100%

I am doing FC for the first time now. Holy shit! SO SO many girls! Way better than Pinalove and DIA. More pics to see and many girls. I have been overwhelmed with to many actually.

I will be there next month so I will report on how my connections panned out.

Sammon
09-23-13, 03:14
Landed in Manila Monday night after re routed through Seoul by united. Had a girl meet me at the airport. Met her on Dia. Nice 18 year old pretty girl studying business. Father works in mideast and mother works for government. Definitely not a poor girl you often find in Dia. Has a sister studying nursing.

Took taxi to Bayview hotel and after a quick shower sex followed. Three times that night and one after breakfast. She had school in the afternoon. Only had sex couple of times a year ago. Very hot pussy broiling my dick inside.

Does not like BBBJ or DATY. Just missionary only. Very much interested in kissing nn stop like all teenagers do. I did not mind re living that. We were supposed to stay three nights together but she had exams and I wanted hot and heavy sex. Her mother bought the story that she was staying with me sleep only, no sex. I doubt her mother is thar stupid. This girl would bring home cooked food ffor me courtesy of mother in law. Did not want any money but I took her shopping and put some money in her purse. Nice girl kept on calling and texting all the time.

Sammon
09-23-13, 03:52
This oneWAfter 18 year old left with sore pussy pounded for two days called another 18 year old girl from Dia. She convinced me that she will come and stay with me for two days. She wanted 500 pesos for bus and taxi. She lived in lagun. I thought I would risk 500 pesos knowing fully well I maybe scammed. That is what exactly happened.

This girl up until the time to meet kept on texting me saying she is on the bus and she is in taxi etc. Gave up on this one after my texts were not replied to. First time a girl scammed me that too for 500 pesos. Previously I have sent close to 7000 pesos for girls to buy ticket and meet me never got scammed. Oh well!

Anyway called my previous contact, a certified nymphette nurse trainee. She showed up true to form. She said no sex for her in six months and asked me why I did not let her know of my coming. This one does everything. Non stop sex multiple times a that thanks to blue pill. She left next morning to work and asked me if I wanted her to come back. I said I am tired and want to rest that day.

After she left called another 18 year old who lives in paranaque. This one is not pretty like her pic in profile. Small boobs. Once again very inexperienced. Managed sex two times and next morning one more time. Very small tight pussy. Had to use Ky. She wanted to stay but told her I had work to do.

Was very tired with lack of sleep and jet lag. Slept most of the day.

Sammon
09-23-13, 04:17
In the evening paid a visit to Mbc. Sat on a stool close to the door. Another girl was sitting next to me and she asked if I wanted her to leave. Nice 25 year old with one kid. Average looks. Pretty soon her friend joined us. Blondish hair obviously colored and very fair skin. Could easily mistake her for a european girl. I was interested in her. We started chatting. I bought two red bull for them. Then the chat got into a different direction. They wanted my opinion about legal matters. I am no lawyer mind you.

Their case goes like this. Blond one is 27 yeats old now and been with a Saudi guy long time. She has a kid from him. She started making money on the side coming to Mbc. Saudi guy found out and cut off funding. He also informed her family and friends what she is doing.

The other girl also similiar situation. She was with a Korean guy long time and has a baby by him. Korean guy has opened some kind of business in her name and wants her to sign over the business to him. However he still sends some money for the baby.

Now both have gone to a lawyer who promises the world for them.

So just a warning to anybody who made babes in Phi. The girls are fighting back now.

After hearing their stories decided not to take the blond.

Plenty of girls in Mbc. Few are good looking. Most are 25 and up in age.

Lots and lots of koreans ordering whole bottles of scotch and food.

Not found any stunners today.

Back to the hotel for a nice sleep. Called nymphette nurse next day and had a nice fuck session all night.

Took tiger air to Cebu. Next report in Cebu section.

Hutsori
09-23-13, 05:37
Lots and lots of koreans ordering whole bottles of scotch and food.Though I'm not korean guy (thank the Lord) I'm a bottle-service guy. It's good financial sense if you intend to buy the girls drinks. A bottle of Bacardi + 4 mixers is p3000 (Tanduay is p2000). That works out to approx. P120 per drink, though you'll need to order a few more mixers to finish the bottle. This is cheaper than the per drink cost ordering one at a time. Moreover, you don't have to keep hailing a waitress over to take your order. You invite girls to join you drinking rum Cokes rather than have them ordering mango shakes, which the waitress pushes them to do, at p300 each. If you don't finish the bottle the place will store it for your next visit; just buy a few mixers.

IM Punter
09-24-13, 02:00
After she left called another 18 year old who lives in paranaque. This one is not pretty like her pic in profile. Small boobs. Once again very inexperienced. Managed sex two times and next morning one more time. Very small tight pussy. Had to use Ky. She wanted to stay but told her I had work to do.I. M. Punter quickly dashes to DIA and searches for all 18 year old babes using Paranaque as a search parameter!

Blu8096
09-24-13, 08:57
Though I'm not korean guy (thank the Lord) I'm a bottle-service guy. It's good financial sense if you intend to buy the girls drinks. A bottle of Bacardi + 4 mixers is p3000 (Tanduay is p2000). That works out to approx. P120 per drink, though you'll need to order a few more mixers to finish the bottle. This is cheaper than the per drink cost ordering one at a time. Moreover, you don't have to keep hailing a waitress over to take your order. You invite girls to join you drinking rum Cokes rather than have them ordering mango shakes, which the waitress pushes them to do, at p300 each. If you don't finish the bottle the place will store it for your next visit; just buy a few mixers.That's a great tip! I didn't know they will hold the bottle for you.

I have to see if that works at some of the clubs I like to go to.

Hutsori
09-24-13, 09:19
That's a great tip! I didn't know they will hold the bottle for you.

I have to see if that works at some of the clubs I like to go to.Many clubs that sell bottles do so, just ask. They'll hold it for months too. It's gotten to the point that I when visit a place the first thing I do is ask the waitress to check whether I still have a bottle there.

Ilasan2
09-24-13, 10:23
One of the most beautiful place in Manila is Ermita, there are plenty of night clubs there.

X Man
09-24-13, 14:19
Yep the east asians had the concept of "bottle keep" before the airlines had their frequent flyer clubs.


Many clubs that sell bottles do so, just ask. They'll hold it for months too. It's gotten to the point that I when visit a place the first thing I do is ask the waitress to check whether I still have a bottle there.

Exoticspirit
09-24-13, 17:59
One of the most beautiful place in Manila is Ermita, there are plenty of night clubs there.I will have two separate nights staying in Ermita at the Swagman hotel. Hope the walk to MBC is not too far or unsafe.

Sammon
09-24-13, 20:28
I will have two separate nights staying in Ermita at the Swagman hotel. Hope the walk to MBC is not too far or unsafe.Do not walk along Del Pilar late at night. You can use Mabini or Roxas Blvd to walk. It is safe. If it is very late.

Take for 50 pesos.

Blu8096
09-24-13, 22:56
I will have two separate nights staying in Ermita at the Swagman hotel. Hope the walk to MBC is not too far or unsafe.I was there for a 6 weeks and stayed across from Robinsons. I walked all over at late night and never had a issue. Never was threatened or anything, but I am also 6'1' and 210.

I cannot recommend to you to do it, but I never had a rough experience.

What's wrong in doing this is it is just nasty, the place is so filthy and disgusting. It stinks, there is garbage and crap everywhere. Street people pissing everywhere taking a crap and what ever, it just plainly a nasty, smelly, disgusting area!

Take a cab and spend 2 dollars. 100P. It will save you the nasty sights, stink and beggars who start at 4 years old to 100 years old.

This area is not a nice area anymore. Tons of street people, ladyboys and garbage. Maybe years ago it was ok but it changed.

Econo Tech
09-25-13, 02:29
Take a cab and spend 2 dollars. 100P. It will save you the nasty sights, stink and beggars who start at 4 years old to 100 years old.This, I agree. 100%


Many clubs that sell bottles do so, just ask. They'll hold it for months too. It's gotten to the point that I when visit a place the first thing I do is ask the waitress to check whether I still have a bottle there.Yah, and after 2 or 3 months, Whiskey starts to rot. Not sure of the chemical name, but it degrades.

And make sure the bar hasn't been replacing your liquid gold for something else. LOL

Msukc
09-25-13, 02:34
I am flying into Manila on a Friday evening. Arrive 20:00 (8 PM). And I leave early Monday morning at 8 AM. This is my first time in Philippines. It is my first time in a real mongering country. I have only picked ladies up in Shanghai, Tijuana and Monterrey MX before. I have learned a lot on this site and the other one. So I understand the process.

Should I stay in Manila since I will only be in Philippines for 3 nights? Or do I travel to AC? I expect everyone to answer go to AC. But I think the travel cost from Manila to AC makes this a difficult decision. I appreciate any advice why'all can give me.

Thanks

MisterO
09-25-13, 03:42
I am flying into Manila on a Friday evening. Arrive 20:00 (8 PM). And I leave early Monday morning at 8 AM. This is my first time in Philippines. It is my first time in a real mongering country. I have only picked ladies up in Shanghai, Tijuana and Monterrey MX before. I have learned a lot on this site and the other one. So I understand the process.

Should I stay in Manila since I will only be in Philippines for 3 nights? Or do I travel to AC? I expect everyone to answer go to AC. But I think the travel cost from Manila to AC makes this a difficult decision. I appreciate any advice why'all can give me.

Thanks.Depends on what you prefer? Stay in Manila and go to MBC in Ermita for easy freelancer pick ups. If you like gogo bars and dancers, then go to AC. Gogo girls in manila are a lot more expensive.

Travel to AC can be very cheap if you take the victory liner bus from pasay bus terminal to dau terminal, then trike to fields ave. The bus ride is only 150 php. About a 2 hour ride more or less depending on traffic.

Key Master
09-25-13, 03:52
I am flying into Manila on a Friday evening. Arrive 20:00 (8 PM). And I leave early Monday morning at 8 AM. This is my first time in Philippines. It is my first time in a real mongering country. I have only picked ladies up in Shanghai, Tijuana and Monterrey MX before. I have learned a lot on this site and the other one. So I understand the process.

Should I stay in Manila since I will only be in Philippines for 3 nights? Or do I travel to AC? I expect everyone to answer go to AC. But I think the travel cost from Manila to AC makes this a difficult decision. I appreciate any advice why'all can give me.Not sure where you are flying in from and how tired you will be. I think for newbies, it's probably easier for them to go to AC. I'm a Manila guy also but it's not always a sure thing if you are kind of picky. It's more spread out. Weekends are tough for both places, but I'd recommend AC to get maximum play for a short timer. If you have more time to invest Manila / Makati can be worth it. It would probably be a lot of traffic getting in at that time though to get anywhere in Manila or even out of airport to get to highway to AC. I personally think if you are new and on limited time to not do the bus thing at least not on your first night there. Maximize your time. If you are on a real tight budget, I guess everything depends then.

BrainDrain
09-25-13, 03:59
I am flying into Manila on a Friday evening. Arrive 20:00 (8 PM). And I leave early Monday morning at 8 AM. This is my first time in Philippines. It is my first time in a real mongering country. I have only picked ladies up in Shanghai, Tijuana and Monterrey MX before. I have learned a lot on this site and the other one. So I understand the process.

Should I stay in Manila since I will only be in Philippines for 3 nights? Or do I travel to AC? I expect everyone to answer go to AC. But I think the travel cost from Manila to AC makes this a difficult decision. I appreciate any advice why'all can give me.

Thanks.I think AC. Arrange an airport pickup which will cost you P2500. http://www.actiontravelac.com/airport-transfer-service.html I use these guys. Tell them your flight number and arrival terminal. Then just two hours after arriving you will be in pussy heaven with all of your punter delights and treats within walking distance. No taxi problems, no traffic snarls, just punting.

Then with your return flight, they can take you back for the same price.

Msukc
09-25-13, 04:24
Not sure where you are flying in from and how tired you will be. I think for newbies, it's probably easier for them to go to AC. I'm a Manila guy also but it's not always a sure thing if you are kind of picky. It's more spread out. Weekends are tough for both places, but I'd recommend AC to get maximum play for a short timer. If you have more time to invest Manila / Makati can be worth it. It would probably be a lot of traffic getting in at that time though to get anywhere in Manila or even out of airport to get to highway to AC. I personally think if you are new and on limited time to not do the bus thing at least not on your first night there. Maximize your time. If you are on a real tight budget, I guess everything depends then.Coming from Taipei. Business trip with some pi action at the end. Will be in Asia for two weeks before I get to manila. No jet lag for me!

2500 vs hotel pick pick up 2900.

Ac it is. I think I will return Sunday afternoon to avoid getting up too early for my flight on Monday.

Great advice all!

LukeSkywalker
09-25-13, 05:56
You only have 2 days. How can you risk delays in traffic to go to AC then back to Manila to depart at 8 AM on Monday? You would be wasting most of your time in traffic rather mongering.

I would not go to AC even if I have plenty of time on my hands. The girls are mostly ugly country bumpkins. A lot of them also have bad attitudes, cheating the johns ect. Basically I had great times in Manila and bad times in AC.

Stay in Manila and monger in the clubs in Burgos or Ermita, walk to Manila Bay Cafe to pick up freelancers. They are there most of the day and night and most are better-looking than AC girls. I picked up a young, good-looking, well-mannered girl from MBC for a couple days. She was so sweet I was taking her everywhere.

PM me. I will give you instructions how to get the best times with the limited time you have in Manila.


I am flying into Manila on a Friday evening. Arrive 20:00 (8 PM). And I leave early Monday morning at 8 AM. This is my first time in Philippines. It is my first time in a real mongering country. I have only picked ladies up in Shanghai, Tijuana and Monterrey MX before. I have learned a lot on this site and the other one. So I understand the process.

Should I stay in Manila since I will only be in Philippines for 3 nights? Or do I travel to AC? I expect everyone to answer go to AC. But I think the travel cost from Manila to AC makes this a difficult decision. I appreciate any advice why'all can give me.

Thanks.

Red Kilt
09-25-13, 05:58
I am flying into Manila on a Friday evening. Arrive 20:00 (8 PM).8 pm on a Friday evening is definitely the very worst time to arrive in Manila as far as traffic is concerned.

Traffic will be even worse if the expected new typhoon arrives tonight and additional flooding occurs around Paranaque and the NLEX on Thursday and Friday.

It could take you until midnight to get to the midst of AC but at least you will be settled there with no hassles for travel (until Monday morning of course).

You will have to leave AC quite early on Monday morning to get to NAIA by 6 to 6. 30am for your 8 am departure. All the farm produce will be coming into Manila from the north early in the morning from 4 am onwards along with all the people who go out of Manila for the weekend.

Factor all of these points into your final decision what to do Msukc.

Amanut
09-25-13, 08:07
Agree with Luke and Red Kilt. Then again I have not been to AC, but really don't have a desire. It's just my own thought process. Believe me you can find enough places to get into trouble by just staying in Manila without the hassle of the extra travel. Especially if there disruption caused by another typhoon.

Throw a DIA contact into the mix to keep it interesting. Put your profile up now and there is still time to meet a contact from DIA, or FC.

Firebird
09-25-13, 09:56
I just tried several searches in the forum to read more reports on MBC.

I tried to write Manila Bay Club. That did not work. Even MBC did not work.

Can someone provide some recommended rates for LT overnight stay? I am generous with tips if the service is good though do not want to overpay and upset the market.

Also I would like to have her stay for the day. Any recommendations?

Many thanks for the feedback.

Firebird

Hutsori
09-25-13, 10:25
I just tried several searches in the forum to read more reports on MBC.

I tried to write Manila Bay Club. That did not work. Even MBC did not work.

Can someone provide some recommended rates for LT overnight stay? I am generous with tips if the service is good though do not want to overpay and upset the market.

Also I would like to have her stay for the day. Any recommendations?

Many thanks for the feedback.

FirebirdManila Bay CAFE. Don't know why MBC doesn't return any results. I think a LT ought to be between p2500 and p3500 depending on your negotiating skills, her desirability in the marketplace, and what services you want her to perform. Before leaving with the girl I strongly recommend you specify what time she is expected to stay and everything you want, e.g. facial, CIM, anal, no condom, whatever rocks your boat. A tip is not necessary unless she goes beyond the agreed upon "contract" or she is especially GFE, perhaps p300 to p500 more. If you feel a tip is always warranted then I'd attach the no-complaining requirement to it. This will prevent her from modifying the agreement as the day progresses.

If you want her to stay for the day I think defining "day" is required. A 24-hour period? Let's assume you pick up a girl at 11 pm and you want a LT. I think that would be until 10am to noon, but for you to negotiate, as some girls will want to split at 8am or so. If you want her to stay until 11PM, i.e. a 24-hour period, that's much longer than a typical LT, and ought to be compensated accordingly. A popular girl may balk because she may being giving up the chance of earning good money, but I think many ordinary girls at MBC, especially those who traveled in from the provinces for the weekend, may appreciate a bigger payday of p4000 to p5000 rather than return to her cramped p100-a-day bed space and hang out at MBC the following night hoping for a customer.

There are a few attractive girls who FL at MBC and they price themselves quite high. One I spoke to said she asks for p3500 ST, and that's a 1-pop ST, not a 3-hour unlimited-pop ST. As I watched her through the night I saw her approach several customers who were pleased to have her join them, but soon she was sent away. I don't know whether she found the meeting of the minds.

Hutsori
09-25-13, 10:48
Yah, and after 2 or 3 months, Whiskey starts to rot. Not sure of the chemical name, but it degrades.

And make sure the bar hasn't been replacing your liquid gold for something else. LOLI'm not speaking of a hand-crafted Islay whisky, which most clubs don't sell as bottle service. The chemical process you refer to is oxidation. Mass-market spirits, such a Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, etc, go through chill filtering and / or a color adulteration. These processes, especially the filtering, makes for a much more stable product. They subsequently change less once opened than non-chill filtered whisky because the later have more compounds susceptible to change. Thus, the mass market brands often hold up longer once opened than the more hand-crafted bottlings. This greatly depends on the product, however, as many mass-produced products are quite poor from the get go. Opened whisky can be stored 12 to 24 months, rum for fewer months, and vodka for many, many more. Of course if you're still concerned there are a few easy remedies; don't buy a bottle; finish the bottle that night; or return sooner than two months.

Yes, it's possible a club may replace my liquid gold with a lower quality spirit, but it could also do so with the opened bottles sitting at the bar. Dem da breaks.

'Nuff said.

Zeppelin029
09-25-13, 10:58
Hello all, I write to you from my lodgings in Makati. Thought I'd share my experiences thus far.

Arrive into NAIA around about 5pm and on my way to the hotel.

After a quick dinner etc. I venture out to Havana Cafe at about 1030pm. Weather is awful, few girls around. At any rate, start talking to one lovely lass. Getting on well enough. Interestingly, she cuts to the chase and quotes 8000 pesos (!). Well actually, she asked for $200 Australian first. If I was going to pay that I may as well have stayed home (more on that later).

Anyway, despite some coaxing she would go no lower than P5000 so I bit her adieu and jumped in a cab with intentions of going to EDSA complex. But deciding on MBC instead.

Once there, moseyed around, not a great deal of talent. One girl dressed rather casually in jeans and normal top caught my eye, and was giving me the eye, but I continued to circulate, went upstairs, came down blah blah. Anyway, found aforementioned girl sitting by the toilet and so started talking. Cute girl, tall (for a Filipina) and not rake thin. Well, she was actually very open and honest about everything. Turns out shed lost her cash at the casino earlier on. Agreed price of P2000 for ST and back home for some lovely times. She ended up leaving about 3am.

But wait, there's more!

I awake at about 9am to see two msgs from her (we'd exchanged numbers on the off chance of hanging out during the day as I wasn't entirely sure what is be doing). One at about 4am asking to come over in the morning because shed lost all her money again at the casino and theN A "good morning" msg.

Whilst I was a bit suspicious, we agreed to P2000 for two shots and that I'd take her for lunch. So she cabbed back to the hotel and we went from there. Two shots, watched a bit of TV, talked a little, went out for lunch. We cabbed to the LRT for her to go home and for me to continue on to mall of Asia and we said our goodbyes.

So not a terrible start, cute girl, meaty without a flat stomach (but who am I to judge) and pleasant personality. Tick day one (and 2).

Will discuss my EDSA experience later.

A thought did occur to me, given MBC is 24 hours, there might be less incentive for a girl to go LT (well to morning) as they can always go back and keep hunting, even at 7am or so (my girl said there were a few Japanese guys she was talking to around this time). This would be in contrast to places that do close, as if it's late enough and there's nowhere else for them to kick on to, they may "accept" the lower payday of LT vs ST x2 for a nice cosey bed haha.

BTW, I'm headed to AC Friday Msukc, but I'll probably take the bus up as if got the time to do so.

Last thoughts, I believe that chemical reaction you're talking about EconoTech is ethanol to vinegar, if high school chemistry serves me correct. Hehe.

D Cups
09-25-13, 15:52
Save AC for another time and fly in. There are several direct flights.


I am flying into Manila on a Friday evening. Arrive 20:00 (8 PM). And I leave early Monday morning at 8 AM. This is my first time in Philippines. It is my first time in a real mongering country. I have only picked ladies up in Shanghai, Tijuana and Monterrey MX before. I have learned a lot on this site and the other one. So I understand the process.

Should I stay in Manila since I will only be in Philippines for 3 nights? Or do I travel to AC? I expect everyone to answer go to AC. But I think the travel cost from Manila to AC makes this a difficult decision. I appreciate any advice why'all can give me.

Thanks.

Blu8096
09-26-13, 01:03
Hello all, I write to you from my lodgings in Makati. Thought I'd share my experiences thus far.

Arrive into NAIA around about 5pm and on my way to the hotel.

After a quick dinner etc. I venture out to Havana Cafe at about 1030pm. Weather is awful, few girls around. At any rate, start talking to one lovely lass. Getting on well enough. Interestingly, she cuts to the chase and quotes 8000 pesos (!). Well actually, she asked for $200 Australian first. If I was going to pay that I may as well have stayed home (more on that later).

Anyway, despite some coaxing she would go no lower than P5000 so I bit her adieu and jumped in a cab with intentions of going to EDSA complex. But deciding on MBC instead.

Once there, moseyed around, not a great deal of talent. One girl dressed rather casually in jeans and normal top caught my eye, and was giving me the eye, but I continued to circulate, went upstairs, came down blah blah. Anyway, found aforementioned girl sitting by the toilet and so started talking. Cute girl, tall (for a Filipina) and not rake thin. Well, she was actually very open and honest about everything. Turns out shed lost her cash at the casino earlier on. Agreed price of P2000 for ST and back home for some lovely times. She ended up leaving about 3am.

But wait, there's more!

I awake at about 9am to see two msgs from her (we'd exchanged numbers on the off chance of hanging out during the day as I wasn't entirely sure what is be doing). One at about 4am asking to come over in the morning because shed lost all her money again at the casino and theN A "good morning" msg.

Whilst I was a bit suspicious, we agreed to P2000 for two shots and that I'd take her for lunch. So she cabbed back to the hotel and we went from there. Two shots, watched a bit of TV, talked a little, went out for lunch. We cabbed to the LRT for her to go home and for me to continue on to mall of Asia and we said our goodbyes.

So not a terrible start, cute girl, meaty without a flat stomach (but who am I to judge) and pleasant personality. Tick day one (and 2).

Will discuss my EDSA experience later.

A thought did occur to me, given MBC is 24 hours, there might be less incentive for a girl to go LT (well to morning) as they can always go back and keep hunting, even at 7am or so (my girl said there were a few Japanese guys she was talking to around this time). This would be in contrast to places that do close, as if it's late enough and there's nowhere else for them to kick on to, they may "accept" the lower payday of LT vs ST x2 for a nice cosey bed haha.

BTW, I'm headed to AC Friday Msukc, but I'll probably take the bus up as if got the time to do so.

Last thoughts, I believe that chemical reaction you're talking about EconoTech is ethanol to vinegar, if high school chemistry serves me correct. Hehe.Great call on the BS 8000P. That's the amount I would only pay for model there, and I have not meet one yet. P5000 is still high but it has been pointed out to me that if you go to burgous or edsa you end buying a drink, bar fine and the girl. Probably around 8000p by the time you get out of there. Maybe some of these girls are learning to add. Havana was crappy last month when I was there, I have not had good luck there since.

Blu8096
09-26-13, 01:05
I'm not speaking of a hand-crafted Islay whisky, which most clubs don't sell as bottle service. The chemical process you refer to is oxidation. Mass-market spirits, such a Jim Beam, Jack Daniels, etc, go through chill filtering and / or a color adulteration. These processes, especially the filtering, makes for a much more stable product. They subsequently change less once opened than non-chill filtered whisky because the later have more compounds susceptible to change. Thus, the mass market brands often hold up longer once opened than the more hand-crafted bottlings. This greatly depends on the product, however, as many mass-produced products are quite poor from the get go. Opened whisky can be stored 12 to 24 months, rum for fewer months, and vodka for many, many more. Of course if you're still concerned there are a few easy remedies; don't buy a bottle; finish the bottle that night; or return sooner than two months.

Yes, it's possible a club may replace my liquid gold with a lower quality spirit, but it could also do so with the opened bottles sitting at the bar. Dem the breaks.

'Nuff said.Whisky gets better with age. I assume you are referring to only open bottles? I have a 12 and a 17 year old whisky on my shelf.

If you are going to leave a bottle at the bar for over a month I would suggest just having a drink.

Econo Tech
09-26-13, 02:49
Whisky gets better with age. I assume you are referring to only open bottles? I have a 12 and a 17 year old whisky on my shelf.

If you are going to leave a bottle at the bar for over a month I would suggest just having a drink.Yah, I meant 'open' bottles.

Hutsori, whatever the process, beyond 3 months maximum, whiskey tastes awful. I am talking Black Label, and no other, as in my whole life, I haven't left any other bottles other than Black label, in Singapore or elsewhere. All else. By the measure.

Firebird
09-26-13, 03:26
Manila Bay CAFE. Don't know why MBC doesn't return any results. I think a LT ought to be between p2500 and p3500 depending on your negotiating skills, her desirability in the marketplace, and what services you want her to perform. Before leaving with the girl I strongly recommend you specify what time she is expected to stay and everything you want, e. G. Facial, CIM, anal, no condom, whatever rocks your boat. A tip is not necessary unless she goes beyond the agreed upon "contract" or she is especially GFE, perhaps p300 to p500 more. If you feel a tip is always warranted then I'd attach the no-complaining requirement to it. This will prevent her from modifying the agreement as the day progresses.

If you want her to stay for the day I think defining "day" is required. A 24-hour period? Let's assume you pick up a girl at 11 pm and you want a LT. I think that would be until 10am to noon, but for you to negotiate, as some girls will want to split at 8am or so. If you want her to stay until 11PM, I. E. A 24-hour period, that's much longer than a typical LT, and ought to be compensated accordingly. A popular girl may balk because she may being giving up the chance of earning good money, but I think many ordinary girls at MBC, especially those who traveled in from the provinces for the weekend, may appreciate a bigger payday of p4000 to p5000 rather than return to her cramped p100-a-day bed space and hang out at MBC the following night hoping for a customer.

There are a few attractive girls who FL at MBC and they price themselves quite high. One I spoke to said she asks for p3500 ST, and that's a 1-pop ST, not a 3-hour unlimited-pop ST. As I watched her through the night I saw her approach several customers who were pleased to have her join them, but soon she was sent away. I don't know whether she found the meeting of the minds.Hutsori. WOW! Many thanks for such a detailed reply. Definitely will post my report after my trip.

Many Thanks!

Firebird
09-26-13, 03:32
Hutsori. Reason why the search was not working stupid me was asking for search of Manila Bay Club instead of Manila Bay Cafe.

Thanks for putting me on the right path.

Stay Safe

Hutsori
09-26-13, 05:31
Yah, I meant 'open' bottles.

Hutsori, whatever the process, beyond 3 months maximum, whiskey tastes awful. I am talking Black Label, and no other, as in my whole life, I haven't left any other bottles other than Black label, in Singapore or elsewhere. All else. By the measure.I'm sure to your taste this is true. JW Black, being a run-of-the-mill mass-market blended whisky, will certainly last longer. Google it and the conventional wisdom says 1-2 years; the amount of spirit remaining in the bottle will influence the rate of oxidation.

To a certain degree you're right though; whiskey tastes from poor to awful, even on day one, whisky on the other hand... ;-)

Anyway, I gave you three viable options, and all shall work within your 3-month limit. And as the vast majority of the community here visits for a few weeks at a time I'm sure bottle service will work for them, too. Little to fear, boys.

Bottoms up.

Key Master
09-26-13, 08:20
You only have 2 days. How can you risk delays in traffic to go to AC then back to Manila to depart at 8 AM on Monday? You would be wasting most of your time in traffic rather mongering.

I would not go to AC even if I have plenty of time on my hands. The girls are mostly ugly country bumpkins. A lot of them also have bad attitudes, cheating the johns ect. Basically I had great times in Manila and bad times in AC.

Stay in Manila and monger in the clubs in Burgos or Ermita, walk to Manila Bay Cafe to pick up freelancers. They are there most of the day and night and most are better-looking than AC girls. I picked up a young, good-looking, well-mannered girl from MBC for a couple days. She was so sweet I was taking her everywhere.

PM me. I will give you instructions how to get the best times with the limited time you have in Manila.Wow, I don't have those problems in AC. I guess it depends on the person and their ability to choose. I am all for Manila and Makati for mongering but I do think that Friday and Saturdays are tougher in other ways in both places. Because he is new and competition can be kind of fierce on these Friday and Saturday I still believe he's better off in AC. It's laid out easy for a newbie and you have multiple clubs close by and sheer volume. Talent to me has been iffy at MBC ever since the raid. Havana is hit and miss and not as easy to maneuver. Both are freelance spots and it's usually better to be a little experienced for that. Given he's kind of new, I think not having to really negotiate so much is kind of better for him to go to AC. I'm not a fan of EDSA especially on Fridays and Saturdays. Burgos is a lot more expensive and a lot of them are true pros. Sticking to the deal is not a big thing with them especially on a party night.

In regards to traffic coming back on a Monday morning, I'm not aware of the traffic patterns as was mentioned earlier. Personally I don't know if I'd factor that into the equation so much if you have to get into airport at 6 in morning. If it is such a worry, he can always come back to Manila or Makati and stay there on Sunday and give it a try. Sunday is probably the slowest night for mongering as it is. At least on Sundays in AC, a lot more venues start earlier. Manila / Makati is more of a late night deal. That's just my feelings on this. I realize that there is going to be traffic at 8pm on a Friday night but he's going to have problems getting anywhere in Manila period at that time. It's not a great time either way but just going based on what he said. For such a short stint, AC is my suggestion.

Nvslim
09-26-13, 09:16
Coming from Taipei. Business trip with some pi action at the end. Will be in Asia for two weeks before I get to manila. No jet lag for me!

2500 vs hotel pick pick up 2900.

Ac it is. I think I will return Sunday afternoon to avoid getting up too early for my flight on Monday.

Great advice all!Why not just fly into Clark Field?

Slim

Zeppelin029
09-26-13, 09:35
Great call on the BS 8000P. That's the amount I would only pay for model there, and I have not meet one yet. P5000 is still high but it has been pointed out to me that if you go to burgous or edsa you end buying a drink, bar fine and the girl. Probably around 8000p by the time you get out of there. Maybe some of these girls are learning to add. Havana was crappy last month when I was there, I have not had good luck there since.She was very pretty, but not an excuse to persist at that price. Would've thought that given my immediate disgust at the price quoted she would've realised the game is up, but some never learn (e. G what Hutsori described at MBC).

Anyway, day 2 starts again at Havana. Minimal rain and there's lot more talent around. After two beers and some willing eyes, I decide it's now or never and am off to EDSA.

Now I know some will be thinking why would you go there, cheaper at MBC, if you can navigate the vagaries of dating sites free is available etc, but I went partly for the experience, knowing it would tear a hole in my pocket. For some, it's all about value, alas, I'm a sucker for the experience. Sometimes.

Anyway, venture into Firehouse, they do have the better music imo. Quiet, but I would discover later it's even more quiet in every other bar.

Am approached by two GROs, briefly talk and one leaves. Keep on with the other, pretty, later on to discover body is a bit slack (note to self, should just pick a dancer, no hiding there). Anyway, as I get along quite well, I tell I her I'll be back but will circulate to the other bars.

End up in Pitstop for a while. Very dead. The Mamasan tells me that it's apparently been like this th while you? Anyone else can verify?

So I go back to Firehouse and find myself aforementioned girl. Ladydrink, talk. Blah blah. Bf P1950, LT P4000. Yes, pricey.

We exit, and she wants to go drink. Alas, we somehow end up at Burgos st for a few before heading back for a nice enough session x2 before she departs in the morning.

BTW, the girls really are mercenary, got conned an extra P250 for "cab fare". Now I could've told her to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off, but thought it was just better to get her out of there (and it's only like $6). Price isn't the issue, just the principle. The again, maybe it's because I didn't tip.

So, expensive, but at least I can tick it off my bucket list.

Day 3 was spent with girl from DIA and her friends. No particularly details and no hanky panky, but I'm thinking of keeping things above board with this one so nothing to report.

Fast Eddie 48
09-26-13, 22:09
When I was there last month a DIA girl wanted to meet me a Harrison plaza. I have never been so I was suspect and did not go. Is it ok there? What is it a discount mall for locals?

Thanks in advance.To Blu8096.

Harrison plaza is a old run down mall a good place to shop for cheap cell phone, there are freelancer working in the mall most older WG, there used to be pimp working here offer girl but I have not see any the last few time I was there.

Fast Eddie 48

Brown Rail
09-27-13, 03:30
Well she claimed she was pregnant and missed her period. She wanted the baby but I told her no and she listened. She said she can get the pill and it would cost 1500 for the set of pills. I wired the cah and she claims she took them and had her period. Now. Is it true. First I didn't believe it- but I shot inside her so much she could be having quadruplets! Day after day I creamed here so its for sure a possibility. Next she only asked for 1500 which is really nothing. If she was scamming me she should have asked for 10, 000P. Well in any matter it was only p1500, no issue. She says ni baby so I a mhappy. I will be back in a month to fill her her up again! . LOL. Just kidding, I will be taking precautions. I will only shoot in her ass from now on!It all sounds legit. I also doubt that she was scamming you for P1,500. On the other hand I would be surprised if she can get the pills. On the third hand, if you get the pills for a pharmacist, with a prescription from a doctor, that is about what they should cost. I have not heard of a girl being able to get them in the Philippines from a doctor, but it should be possible.

So sounds like it is all possible.

BrainDrain
09-27-13, 03:47
Ac it is. I think I will return Sunday afternoon to avoid getting up too early for my flight on Monday.

Great advice all!WOuld you consider staying in AC Sunday nigth as well. I know you will have an earlier start on Monday but your AC start will only be about 90 minutes earlier. The benefit of this is that you have your hotel all day Sunday and SUnday afternoon. So rather that your fun times going on pause at 11:30am Sunday when you are packed and moving out. You can play all day.

Another idea is if you are catching a car back from AC you can invite a girl to accompany you. In my case, the transport is usually returning back to AC so they also bring the girl back for free. I find the ride goes faster with a girl beside me in the car.

Pinaypounder
09-27-13, 18:55
Landed here Wed AM, arranged for an old friend to meet as I am here on business so far. So far I ave had the usual array of local friends. I caution you that all of them have sponsoring BFs nicely sending cash which keeps them in nice underwear for me to remove.

People keep telling my Pinays make good wives, I am not sure I agree but I have fucked about 100 married or engaged women here. The good news for one of you fellows is ne of them now enjoys fucking on her priod which means that the bar is now ALWAYS open.

I am off to Palawan, not sure why but I hope I can find some action there.

I am not bringing one with me.

Any advice on Palawan would be appreciated.

Visited the MBC and went upstairs as I always enjoy the Bands. The Quality of the women was was down in my opinion but I made a new Male fiend and his fiance, she was cute.

Stay horny my friends.

PP

Cool Traveler
09-27-13, 22:23
You did well. 8000 for a Havana girl is outrageous. I have had 3-somes at 5000 combined as recent as 3 weeks ago, all night long and all morning long. Going rate at Havana is 2000 to 3000. One problem is to sit at Havana, they have to spend. They are usually out by about 300 to 500. But some keep drinking and their tab adds up. I usually tell them. 2000 and I will pick up the tab, and buy them dinner.

I was there two separate times the past month, and the place was crowded. Most or all the girls are seasoned pros. If you are thinking you getting some fresh melons, beware. Yup, beware. Those breasts been sucked by quite a few.

Just to point out something. 10:30PM for Havana is still a little early. The place really gets crowded at about 11PM to 1AM. Maybe because I rarely end up there before 11PM, I have always lucked out. Also, it has been raining like crazy. A lot of places are shooing flies right now.

Hutsori
09-27-13, 23:34
i was out with three m8s in malate and ermita bar hopping; at about 1:30 am we headed off to the next place. a street walker approached me, i uttered "no thanks", but she persisted following me, walking for much longer than the typical sw. this went on for a couple of blocks and we were soon joined by a gayboy selling flowers who also wouldn't peel off, even when told "wala!", which usually does the trick. we turned down santa monica street and walked toward amazonia. in this street we and our pests were joined by the fake viagra seller. shortly thereafter one of my m8s shouts,"fuck! my wallet!" i had mine safely in my front pocket, and i gave it a squeeze to make sure it was still there. the viagra seller and the sw are no longer amongst us, and the gayboy starts shouting. my m8 is patting himself down to double check and tells us he thinks it was the viagra seller, who was closest to him. his wallet was in his cargo pocket at his right thigh. gayboy is still shouting and pointing down a lane off of santa monica: "he went that way! that way!" my m8 starts sprinting down the lane."fuck!" i think to myself, knowing that this could turn out much worse. anyway i start running after him; my belief in the battle-buddy way is firm. i catch up and we exit the lane at the next street. nothing. his loss: p6000, a credit card, and an id.

were they in cahoots or did one see an opportunity and strike? was the gayboy pointing us in the wrong direction? who knows? i know when i'm walking alone i'm much more guarded and will quicken my step when approached. amongst a group of friends my guard was down and we walked along at a leisurely pace. the pick pockets are daring. and quick.

Hutsori
09-28-13, 01:29
People keep telling my Pinays make good wives, I am not sure I agree but I have fucked about 100 married or engaged women here.I have my doubts about their good wifeyness too. I've met several who are game for a romp whilst hubby is gone. Of course it may be unfair of me to have these doubts about all Pinays because the circles I run in the women are predisposed this way. General rule for me: don't ever consider marrying any woman who'll meet me.

I received this reply to a CL ad posted a few days ago:


Hi. I'll say a few more words then you did. I am interested in knowing a little more about you. Basically we both want sex. About me. I am married but my husband is out of country til next year. I am 30 and petite and cute (and horny). I have a daughter in school and a young son at home. I live in a condo in Pasig. I can host weekdays only between 9-3 when daughter is in school. If you are interested let me know and I'll give you my phone number and we can talk and decide from there what comes next. Have a great day. WendyThis was my CL ad:


Ad title: Your Pinay Pussy + My Caucasian Cock =

The ad: 'Nuff said.

Email for info. Thanks.'Nuff said! Hahahaha. This ad is far different from the ads I typically post, but a whim struck and I wanted to see how little could entice. I received 8 replies for that one, including a bloke who offered me his wife.

Msukc
09-28-13, 03:25
WOuld you consider staying in AC Sunday nigth as well. I know you will have an earlier start on Monday but your AC start will only be about 90 minutes earlier. The benefit of this is that you have your hotel all day Sunday and SUnday afternoon. So rather that your fun times going on pause at 11:30am Sunday when you are packed and moving out. You can play all day.

Another idea is if you are catching a car back from AC you can invite a girl to accompany you. In my case, the transport is usually returning back to AC so they also bring the girl back for free. I find the ride goes faster with a girl beside me in the car.Interesting idea. Are you saying have this girl with me just for the ride to MNL to keep me company and then after I arrive she returns with the driver? Maybe a little BJ in the back during the ride? I like the way you think if that is what you mean.

X Man
09-28-13, 13:09
Thanks for the warning. I've wandered those streets at the wee hours myself and I also keep a brisk pace and a 'don't fk with me' look on my face. And although I might be cash heavy, the ID and credit card usually stay in the safe.

Like your friend, I've had someone try to get in one of those lower cargo pants pockets. (Older members here might appreciate that my cargo trousers are the plaid bell bottom version) For me I was getting into a Cebu taxi with two ladies, so was also distracted. Some teen had slid himself under the taxi door, laying on the street, and was reaching into my pocket. It was a pretty busy street with a lot of people. Mostly street sellers. No one shouted a warning, so I suspect this is organized crime. The local street sellers need to protect their own hides. He didn't get anything other than a few curses. Boy in training I suspect.

One of my dia regulars was telling me how she and her ex-boyfriend (she uses the term bf rather loosly) got picked up by the fake police near the MBC. This scam was reported here on ISG long before she told me the story.

Well, not trying to scare the daylights out of anyone. Just be aware of your surroundings, don't get too drunk, and learn from your friends at ISG. (X uses the term friend rather loosly).


I was out with three m8s in Malate and Ermita bar hopping; at about 1:30 am

SNIP.

Were they in cahoots or did one see an opportunity and strike? Was the gayboy pointing us in the wrong direction? Who knows? I know when I'm walking alone I'm much more guarded and will quicken my step when approached. Amongst a group of friends my guard was down and we walked along at a leisurely pace. The pick pockets are daring. And quick.

Firebird
09-28-13, 16:00
Thanks for the warning. I've wandered those streets at the wee hours myself and I also keep a brisk pace and a 'don't fk with me' look on my face. And although I might be cash heavy, the I'd and credit card usually stay in the safe.

Like your friend, I've had someone try to get in one of those lower cargo pants pockets. (Older members here might appreciate that my cargo trousers are the plaid bell bottom version) For me I was getting into a Cebu taxi with two ladies, so was also distracted. Some teen had slid himself under the taxi door, laying on the street, and was reaching into my pocket. It was a pretty busy street with a lot of people. Mostly street sellers. No one shouted a warning, so I suspect this is organized crime. The local street sellers need to protect their own hides. He didn't get anything other than a few curses. Boy in training I suspect.

One of my dia regulars was telling me how she and her ex-boyfriend (she uses the term bf rather loosly) got picked up by the fake police near the MBC. This scam was reported here on ISG long before she told me the story.

Well, not trying to scare the daylights out of anyone. Just be aware of your surroundings, don't get too drunk, and learn from your friends at ISG. (X uses the term friend rather loosly).X Man, I just made several searches in the forum trying to find information on the "fake police scam", but came up empty handed. I do frequent Burgos bars quite frequently but never been to MBC. Have upcoming trip wanted to see what MBC is all about.

What is the deal with the fake police? They try to shake you down? Must be something similar to police in Mexico, or Russia.

Thanks in advance for the info

Tiradentes
09-28-13, 16:07
Are there any high class massage parlors in Manila , similar to Bangkok?

Firebird
09-28-13, 16:12
Are there any high class massage parlors in Manila , similar to Bangkok?Unfortunately not. Or at least I have not found any and I have made several searches for information in the Manila forum

MisterO
09-28-13, 18:54
Are there any high class massage parlors in Manila , similar to Bangkok?Maybe try airforce 1? Or starfleet which I hear is a little less expensive. Haven't been to either though.

JustForFun21
09-28-13, 21:07
my first trip to manila and i went armed with all the previous reports in isg. before starting the actual report, few points about me so that fellow mongers can relate easily.

- i'm not a very experienced (or seasoned monger). i generally prefer a good massage followed by a good bj or hj than a full sex experience.

- i mostly look for good looking face than the body.

- finally, i look for a gfe and hence attitude of the girl is very important.

on my first day, i decided to visit mbc based on several positive reports on this place. moreover, the thought of taking a freelancer at a low price did seem a juicy experience for me. took a cab, reached the place and the first sight of the cafe was not what i perceived it to be. i somehow thought it as a posh club but it didn't seem so when i actually saw it. nevertheless, that does not matter and hence went inside and took a seat near the entrance. i ordered for a drink and started looking at the girls to understand what is on offer. all of them (at least 95% of them) were very seasoned pros and their dressing and looks somehow were not upto my expectations. i spent around 60 mins there and felt that this place is not for me (or not for my type) and hence i left without even attempting a negotiation with any of the girls (there was one who i thought i will consider if i don't find anyone better but by the time i was planning to leave, i looked for her but i didn't find her anywhere).

i came out and took a cab back to my hotel. on my way to the hotel, the cab driver asked me whether he can help me in finding a good place for the pickup girls. initially, i was hesitant but the driver seemed very nice and professional and hence agreed with him. he took me somewhere near makati to a home (it's not located in the main commercial area but somewhere in the neighborhood area). i was taken inside the house and there it was around 30+ girls sitting in a circular form (270 degree) waiting for clients. i was made to sit at one side and they asked me to choose a girl. the girls were staring at me and i felt very uncomfortable / embarrassed to look at each of them to decide. all the girls were wearing revealing dress and i could not imagine taking them (in such a dress) to the hotel. once again, decided not to try any of them. by the way, the price here is 4500p but i'm sure they will come to 3000 to 3500 if we negotiate.

finally, came back to the hotel room but i could not think of going to sleep without cumming. it was already early in the morning but still decided to try some massage experience. logged into locanto and searched for massage with happy ending. there were many advertisements but most didn't respond to my message and few phone calls made were not going through. finally, there was one girl who said that she is available for 2 hrs massageat2000 pesos + 1000 pesos for any additional pleasures. the photo in locanto looked okay (half japanese) and also it mentioned that she was a college student. so, decided to go ahead with her. she reached the hotel after 30 mins and she looked almost similar to the picture posted in locanto. to make it as a gfe, i made her relax in the sofa, offered her a drink and attempted some casual chat. she was just mechanically answering to my questions but never showed any interest in creating a good conversation. anyway, she asked me to take a bath and then started the message. at the beginning of the massage, she asked me whether i have condoms. i didn't buy any as i landed in manila only few hours before. she said that she also didn't bring condom as normally the customers used to keep this. i was really pissed off but still decided to go ahead saying that i will not have sex with her. next 90 minutes she was giving massage to me but it was a complete therapeutic massage without any attempt to keep my johnny raised. i was waiting for the final climax in hand and then she got a message in her phone and she went to attend it. being a nice guy, i was waiting for her to come back but she was sitting in the sofa for almost 15 mins doing something with her phone. losing my patience, i got up from the bed and sat next to her and said what is she doing. she replied that 2 hrs is over and hence she is ready to go. i could not believe her statement and i was completely pissed off. i asked her why then she didn't give me a happy ending for which she replied that since i said no sex is required (because of no condoms) , she thought i didn't require any special service. i asked her how the fuck a guy will call a girl for a therapautic massage in such an earthly hour. i told her to leave the room (after paying) and said that she completely ruined my day and this is the worst experience i every got in my mongering experience. then she said she will give me a bj and finally she made me cum. i gave her the money but didn't give any tip.

overall, my first day had not been a great day but instead of worrying about it i decided to look forward for the next few days to catch up a good experience. report 2 will follow soon.

Pinaypounder
09-28-13, 23:17
Headed to MBC after waking up at 230 AM travel is such a *****, Cab driver did not know it by its new name.

Walked in an literally grabbed the first girl I saw (leaving it to fate) After a brief chat wherein she advised she only came her on Friday and Saturdays YEAH RIGHT this is why I don't bother to chat much anymore they all lie any ways. I asked her her preferences and she liked Japanese and Asian men not blacks and arabs. Blah blah blah I took her back to the Sofitel, hint Use the side entrance far less of a walk of shame, headed up to the room.

Whereupon I received the best fucking blowjob I have had for a long long time, hint # 3 I think the Japanese and Asian fellows train them well so suck and lick and eat cock. Poor thing thought a good blowjob and cum would suffice me but no she received a good pounding, a little while later.

Cost was 2500 but then I added another 500. I will definitely repeat this week a mouth like that is kind of hard to find.

I can provide name and number after my blowjobs needs have been met this week.

I have a Monday session planned with a freebie and it will likely suck! So this girl will be ordered later!

PP

Exoticspirit
09-28-13, 23:18
Overall, my first day had not been a great day but instead of worrying about it I decided to look forward for the next few days to catch up a good experience. Report 2 will follow soon.Wow, I hope the rest of your trip gets better. For my upcoming trip, Manila will be at the tail end so if I don't find anything at MBC, Amazonia or G-point, I think I could live with it. I won't be calling any FL massage girls who are wish washy on exactly what services are provided. And I think your story is a good lesson for all of us to bring our own condoms for a trip like this.

Key Master
09-29-13, 06:56
Headed to MBC after waking up at 230 AM travel is such a *****, Cab driver did not know it by its new name.I normally call it LA Cafe still. Did you say MBC or Manila Bay Cafe? Also when saying it, it helps them if you tell them the area you are traveling to, like Ermita or Malate. Believe this is in Ermita but Malate works for me when asking the taxi drivers.

Hutsori
09-29-13, 07:56
- i'm not a very experienced (or seasoned monger). i generally prefer a good massage followed by a good bj or hj than a full sex experience.you have a couple of options. visit craigslist dot org > asia, pacific, middle east > manila > personals > casual encounters > w4m or manila > services > therapeutic services. problem with cl is there are no frs. if you want better info register at pinoyplayer dot org (it's free) and browse the masseuse ads and frs posted.

FreebieFan
09-29-13, 09:14
you have a couple of options. visit craigslist dot org > asia, pacific, middle east > manila > personals > casual encounters > w4m or manila > services > therapeutic services. problem with cl is there are no frs. if you want better info register at pinoyplayer dot org (it's free) and browse the masseuse ads and frs posted.or become a member of manila tonight. fr's on all massage places in all the cities of manila plus some special offers for manila tonight members in some cases. some of the reports are in tagalog but at least half are in english.

Hutsori
09-29-13, 11:40
Or become a member of Manila Tonight. FR's on all massage places in all the cities of Manila plus some special offers for Manila Tonight members in some cases. Some of the reports are in Tagalog but at least half are in English.Excellent tip. I just did. Thanks.

Inlock
09-29-13, 18:39
All the girls were wearing revealing dress and I could not imagine taking them (in such a dress) to the hotel.They didn't go to work by subway / jeepney / trike dressed like that either, so they will have more "normal" clothes available they can get into before going with you.

And if you want them to bring the revealing dress and change back to that after arriving to your room, I'm sure that can be arranged too.

Tiradentes
09-30-13, 05:48
Fellows. ...Help a brother out.

I will be arriving to Manila this Sunday at 6 am in the morning. Any advice on where to go early morning to get me some release after a 30 hours dreadful flight?

Massage parlors- BJ bars- anything will do for this rookie.

I hope not all the pinays will be in church.

WestCoast1
09-30-13, 06:05
Fellows. Help a brother out.

I will be arriving to Manila this Sunday at 6 am in the morning. Any advice on where to go early morning to get me some release after a 30 hours dreadful flight?

Massage parlors- BJ bars- anything will do for this rookie.

I hope not all the pinays will be in church.Where are you staying (what city)? You will want to get to your hotel first for a shower. After that tell the taxi driver you want to go to Manila Bay Cafe in Malate, on del Pilar street. Should be some freelancers available.

Soapy Smith
09-30-13, 08:37
On my first day, I decided to visit MBC based on several positive reports on this place. Moreover, the thought of taking a freelancer at a low price did seem a juicy experience for me. Took a cab, reached the place and the first sight of the cafe was not what I perceived it to be. I somehow thought it as a posh club but it didn't seem so when I actually saw it. Nevertheless, that does not matter and hence went inside and took a seat near the entrance. I ordered for a drink and started looking at the girls to understand what is on offer. All of them (at least 95% of them) were very seasoned pros and their dressing and looks somehow were not upto my expectations. I spent around 60 mins there and felt that this place is not for me (or not for my type) and hence I left without even attempting a negotiation with any of the girls (there was one who I thought I will consider if I don't find anyone better but by the time I was planning to leave, I looked for her but I didn't find her anywhere).I have not been a regular at the "cafe" since it was LA Cafe, but unless the layout and the girls' actions have changed dramatically, I think you did not pick a very strategic location. Regarding the appearance of the place, I too found it unappealing on my first visit. I got over it and had many enjoyable visits on later occasions. The tables near the entrance are not ideal places to sit since most of the available market pieces are seated or standing in the area behind the round bar.

There are many more places to sit in the rear area, and many of the women just don't wander out to the tables near the entrance. Remember the experience at dance clubs when you make a long and conspicuous walk to ask an attractive woman to dance, and then she turns you down: the walk back is a long walk of shame. So these women are no different. Most don't want to be seen making a shot at some guy out at the front tables, and then have to walk back past other potential customers who have seen them rejected by another guy. There are some fuglie and desperate exceptions, but most like to make their fishing expeditions shorter, and that is easier to do in the area to the rear. Also, since the CRs (restrooms) are in the rear, a failed expedition can be concealed by a side excursion into the CR.

A person could go around the bar in either direction to get to the back side, but I usually did it in a counter-clockwise route. It's a tight passage but there are a few tables there that are worth scoping out. Walk slowly around the bar and then just hang out for a short while in the open area on the back side of the bar. At this point somebody, usually a waitress, will find you a seat. From the area behind the bar, whether you are sitting on a bar stool or at a table, there is just much more opportunity to look over the available women. There are other advantages to going around to the rear area. First, it gives your eyes more time to adjust to the darkness. Second, it gives many more women a chance to see you. Remember that they are actively looking too. Third, since many of the women there are sitting or standing still, you can really scope them out better. And when you see something you like, make eye contact (wink, smile, or gesture) , and the girl can either walk to you or gesture for you to join her. Because distances are shorter here, the walk of shame from a failed effort for her or you is much shorter and less painful. Finally, even if you end up talking with women you don't want to take out, you can learn a lot by talking with them, and sometimes, knowing that you don't find them appealing, they will invite a girlfriend over who may be to your liking. But this kind of interaction is not very practical if you're sitting out at the tables near the entrance.

At the front tables too many of the sightings are of women going somewhere else. Just ask yourself whether you'd rather shoot fish in a barrel or try to shoot them as they swim by in fast-moving current.

Firebird
09-30-13, 08:54
I have not been a regular at the "cafe" since it was LA Cafe, but unless the layout and the girls' actions have changed dramatically, I think you did not pick a very strategic location. Regarding the appearance of the place, I too found it unappealing on my first visit. I got over it and had many enjoyable visits on later occasions. The tables near the entrance are not ideal places to sit since most of the available market pieces are seated or standing in the area behind the round bar.

There are many more places to sit in the rear area, and many of the women just don't wander out to the tables near the entrance. Remember the experience at dance clubs when you make a long and conspicuous walk to ask an attractive woman to dance, and then she turns you down: the walk back is a long walk of shame. So these women are no different. Most don't want to be seen making a shot at some guy out at the front tables, and then have to walk back past other potential customers who have seen them rejected by another guy. There are some fuglie and desperate exceptions, but most like to make their fishing expeditions shorter, and that is easier to do in the area to the rear. Also, since the CRs (restrooms) are in the rear, a failed expedition can be concealed by a side excursion into the CR.

A person could go around the bar in either direction to get to the back side, but I usually did it in a counter-clockwise route. It's a tight passage but there are a few tables there that are worth scoping out. Walk slowly around the bar and then just hang out for a short while in the open area on the back side of the bar. At this point somebody, usually a waitress, will find you a seat. From the area behind the bar, whether you are sitting on a bar stool or at a table, there is just much more opportunity to look over the available women. There are other advantages to going around to the rear area. First, it gives your eyes more time to adjust to the darkness. Second, it gives many more women a chance to see you. Remember that they are actively looking too. Third, since many of the women there are sitting or standing still, you can really scope them out better. And when you see something you like, make eye contact (wink, smile, or gesture) , and the girl can either walk to you or gesture for you to join her. Because distances are shorter here, the walk of shame from a failed effort for her or you is much shorter and less painful. Finally, even if you end up talking with women you don't want to take out, you can learn a lot by talking with them, and sometimes, knowing that you don't find them appealing, they will invite a girlfriend over who may be to your liking. But this kind of interaction is not very practical if you're sitting out at the tables near the entrance.

At the front tables too many of the sightings are of women going somewhere else. Just ask yourself whether you'd rather shoot fish in a barrel or try to shoot them as they swim by in fast-moving current.Skip Kost. I have been many times in Manila but never in MBC. Was planning to make the venture during my trip in October. You have provided fantastic hints. Question: What is the "dress code"? Jeans and casual or more dressy. Or anything goes?

Soapy Smith
09-30-13, 09:08
Skip Kost. I have been many times in Manila but never in MBC. Was planning to make the venture during my trip in October. You have provided fantastic hints. Question: What is the "dress code"? Jeans and casual or more dressy. Or anything goes?I have seen guys dressed from sloppy to very dressed up. But I think, even with freelancers at a place like MBC, it always helps to be nicely dressed. I typically wore chino pants and some kind of button-up short sleeve shirt, socks and shoes. I also occasionally saw guys in dress slacks and oxford shirts. Flip-flops are not the way to go, if for no other reason than because it gets crowded and too easy to get your feet stepped on. The women do notice how you dress, and they expect to have a classier experience with a guy who is well dressed.

By the way, the women dress to attract attention to their assets, but some of them carry a change of clothes (in a purse, for example) and, if you ask, will change into the traveling clothes so as to make your hotel walk of shame a little less sordid.

Slippery
09-30-13, 11:44
After 30+ years having been required to wear a business suit nearly every day for work, I despise even "business casual" attire. I' ve been frequenting LAC / MBC about once a week lately after moving to Manila, mostly late afternoons. Shorts with "golf shirt", flip flops and baseball hat are my regular attire. First and foremost, I am showered, smell good and clean shaven. The way I conduct myself speaks far more than what I am wearing and it seems that so many of the girls are overdressed for that bar and the environs surrounding it.

Sometimes I just go there for a cool beverage and other times for a few drinks. I treat the girls respectfully and with good humor and if I'm not interested in one who approaches, I politely and discreetly tell her so. Perhaps different attire may be in order at night but its been many years since I've been in the place after sundown.

Slippery
09-30-13, 11:51
After 30+ years having been required to wear a business suit nearly every day for work, I despise even "business casual" attire. I' ve been frequenting LAC / MBC about once a week lately after moving to Manila, mostly late afternoons. Shorts with "golf shirt", flip flops and baseball hat are my regular attire. First and foremost, I am showered, smell good and clean shaven. The way I conduct myself speaks far more than what I am wearing and it seems that so many of the girls are overdressed for that bar and the environs surrounding it.

Sometimes I just go there for a cool beverage and other times for a few drinks. I treat the girls respectfully and with good humor and if I'm not interested in one who approaches, I politely and discreetly tell her so. Perhaps different attire may be in order at night but its been many years since I've been in the place after sundown.

Slippery
09-30-13, 11:58
After 30+ years having been required to wear a business suit nearly every day for work, I despise even "business casual" attire. I' ve been frequenting LAC / MBC about once a week lately after moving to Manila, mostly late afternoons. Shorts with "golf shirt", flip flops and baseball hat are my regular attire. First and foremost, I am showered, smell good and clean shaven. The way I conduct myself speaks far more than what I am wearing and it seems that so many of the girls are overdressed for that bar and the environs surrounding it.

Sometimes I just go there for a cool beverage and other times for a few drinks. I treat the girls respectfully and with good humor and if I'm not interested in one who approaches, I politely and discreetly tell her so. Perhaps different attire may be in order at night but its been many years since I've been in the place after sundown.

Slippery
09-30-13, 12:01
Can't seem to delete this triple post. Every time I hit "delete post" it adds the post again. So sorry.

Hutsori
09-30-13, 16:38
Oi! What's this I read? Dress code?!? I'm the geezer with a bottle of spoiled 3-month-old rhum wearing the banana hammock.

'Nuff said.

Sammon
09-30-13, 23:32
Took Swagman shuttle from angeles. Was very tired after all night drinking, dancing and sex. Door girl was extremely GFE playing with my dick, kissing (very good kisser) in bar and disco. We went for a couple of drinks at dollhouse. It was crowded with some very good looking girls. Do not the price to take out girl.

I had lined up four girls from Dia according to looks in their pic. One 25 year old agreed to meet me at 6 pm in my room. Time came and went. I texted her to see if she is on her way. She said she is still in taguig and will take a taxi and want me to pay. Told her it is very far and she should have taked a jeepney long time ago and come to my hotel. In spite of her protests Itold her we will not meet.

Next up is a girl who said she lives in malate. Told her to meet me in Robinson, malate. She texts me back saying her sister and her friend will come with her and can I get them dinner? Told her to stay home and eat. Suddenly she says she will come alone to meet me. Stopped answering her many texts. No patience with playing games.

Third one lives in Makati. Wanted 3000 pesos but agreed on 1500 for one day. She wantedto take taxi and I pay.

I told her to take jeepney. She said something like jeepney is not safe.

What is with all these girls? I know they take jeepney everywhere day to day and if foreigner paying want to take taxi. Previously I had met lots of Dia girls who all took jeepney and were mostly on time to me. Ofcourse some do not like to come to hotel and in such cases I would meet them at some mall and then take a taxi to my hotel.

Anyway fourth one was very willing to come to my hotel. By this time I was very hungry and walked over to southern cross hotel and had dinner. Very tasty food. Lots of over the sell by date girls there and very pushy but bar ambience was good.

Got text from the grl saying she is near. I asked her if she want to eat but was assured she is not hungry. Met her and to the room. This girl is next door type. Fairly cute but thin. I like some meat on their bones. She works as a salesperson and I guess supplementing her income courtesy of Dia. She was very nice. No demands about anything. Only problem is as with any thin girls sex needs to be not rough and tough. Very small juicy pussy. She has she has not had sex for a long time.

After she left trying to decide whether to call my nymphette nurse or try few more Dia girls.

LukeSkywalker
10-01-13, 02:26
I like the DIA semi pros, especially if they are young, thin, pretty and horny, a perfect combination. Hehe.

It feels good to get girls aroused, their pussies drippy and their bodies trembling, writhing in pleasures as you plow into them.

For the bros, post a few pics of those DIA girls.


Got text from the grl saying she is near. I asked her if she want to eat but was assured she is not hungry. Met her and to the room. This girl is next door type. Fairly cute but thin. I like some meat on their bones. She works as a salesperson and I guess supplementing her income courtesy of Dia. She was very nice. No demands about anything. Only problem is as with any thin girls sex needs to be not rough and tough. Very small juicy pussy. She has she has not had sex for a long time.

After she left trying to decide whether to call my nymphette nurse or try few more Dia girls.

Red Kilt
10-01-13, 03:07
I had lined up four girls from Dia according to looks in their pic. One 25 year old agreed to meet me at 6 pm in my room. Time came and went. I texted her to see if she is on her way. She said she is still in taguig and will take a taxi and want me to pay. Told her it is very far and she should have taked a jeepney long time ago and come to my hotel. In spite of her protests Itold her we will not meet. .SNIPI still reckon it is risky to give to girls who you have NEVER MET your hotel and room number. At least meet them in the lobby and scope them out first. They are never as they appear on cam or in pics (on rare occasions they actually look better in person but don't count on that).

Even your Taguig girl could easily have still turned up at your room (depending on the security of the hotel) along with a bf or a brother or cousin.

I am not being unnecessarily alarmist here and I know Sammon has been around for a while but to newbies: be careful about handing out such information.

I can relate a number of stories about how this can and has backfired on a number of guys with girls arriving at hotels unannounced and causing a problem.

BrainDrain
10-01-13, 03:22
I still reckon it is risky to give to girls who you have NEVER MET your hotel and room number. At least meet them in the lobby and scope them out first. They are never as they appear on cam or in pics (on rare occasions they actually look better in person but don't count on that).

Even your Taguig girl could easily have still turned up at your room (depending on the security of the hotel) along with a bf or a brother or cousin.

I am not being unnecessarily alarmist here and I know Sammon has been around for a while but to newbies: be careful about handing out such information.

I can relate a number of stories about how this can and has backfired on a number of guys with girls arriving at hotels unannounced and causing a problem.My standard operational procedure (SOP) is to meet them offsite. Foyer if they have been recommended. Always provides an easy option for either to bail.

I did have one girl in Manila who I couldn't meet offsite, I was already in bed when we made contact that night. Had been chatting to her previously, she said he wanted to come over. I was staying at Shangrla. She went to the front desk, showed her I'd. Due to my other staff staying in the same hotel I didn't want to be seen in the foyer meeting her. Anyway, they checked her out and sent er up. It was all good. She was good fun and she left next morning. But in hindsight it was just all too risky.

One good thing was that I fluked a chick whom liked anal. That was a bonus.

Even in AC I prefer to meet them offsite first. One contact in AC recently, lovely pics on her profile but she had a lot of acne on this particular day. In AC, it's a competitive place. I was able to easily enjoya drink with her, then make my exit, keeping in contact for a future day.

Cheers.

BD

Blu8096
10-01-13, 03:58
I still reckon it is risky to give to girls who you have NEVER MET your hotel and room number. At least meet them in the lobby and scope them out first. They are never as they appear on cam or in pics (on rare occasions they actually look better in person but don't count on that).

Even your Taguig girl could easily have still turned up at your room (depending on the security of the hotel) along with a bf or a brother or cousin.

I am not being unnecessarily alarmist here and I know Sammon has been around for a while but to newbies: be careful about handing out such information.

I can relate a number of stories about how this can and has backfired on a number of guys with girls arriving at hotels unannounced and causing a problem.I have never met a DIA girl with out first chatting on live Cam or visiting her FB page. The reason is of course one picture tells you nothing. They are so touched up and fake it is just a preview only. You need much more info to even figure out if she is a woman!

FB is awesome because there is a history there and a ton of pictures. You can easily tell if she is real and what she truly looks like, especially full body pictures! Cam to cam is great because it is live, you can see her and figure out if she is cute or not.

If a girl will not do either I write her off immediately- won't even respond to her again. She is hiding something and it may be a 9inch PENIS!

The BLU rules:

1) Always confirm she is good looking by FB or live cam.

2) Never let her bring her sister or friends unless they are fucking! I never say yes to that request- just call another one.

3) Meet in public place first time like a mall. Then you can bail if you need to and she doesn't know your apartment.

4) Fuck the shit out of her!

5) Pay and be Polite, she does have feelings to.

Blu8096
10-01-13, 04:06
Better to bring them with you or buy there?

I went to Greenhills and they had a tiny selection and it was not worth it.

Anybody got a hot spot for where to go that has good selection?

Wicked Roger
10-01-13, 06:44
Better to bring them with you or buy there?

I went to Greenhills and they had a tiny selection and it was not worth it.

Anybody got a hot spot for where to go that has good selection?Not sure when I posted but a few weeks back I think but find that FR as had some online shops in the country. Or bring with you as I have done many times. If you order online from overseas many will never arrive so bring with you always easier and is cheaper as in the Philippines some prices are inflated.

Sammon
10-01-13, 07:00
The BLU rules:

1) Always confirm she is good looking by FB or live cam.

2) Never let her bring her sister or friends unless they are fucking! I never say yes to that request- just call another one.

3) Meet in public place first time like a mall. Then you can bail if you need to and she doesn't know your apartment.

4) Fuck the shit out of her!

5) Pay and be Polite, she does have feelings to.1. Seldom I chat with them on live cam. I meet the girl in my room. Every girl deserves one fuck even the ugly ones. Sexual chemistry cannot be judged otherise. I have gotten best sex by some of the not so good looking girls.

They tend to be cleaner also. Besides there is no reason to talk too much unless you want to marry her.

2. I do the same. If they want to bring other girls I expect them to fuck. Sometimes they bring unannunced. However it is not a problem for me. It just means the girl is reserved and scared not a pro.

3. Yes if you live here in a apartment you do not want girls to know the address. But staying in a hotel as a tourst it is not a problem. Meeting them in a public place is only to decide about her looks. No need to talk about her life, your life, her family and yours.

I have never had any problem getting rid of them if I do not like, her pussy stinks, mouth stinks, does not like sex etc. Inexperience I can deal with. I look for the naive look and demeanor. You will be surprised how friendly they are after one fuck.

4. Do not fuck the shit out of her. Slowly gain their trust. Once she knows you want er to enjoy and not out to hurt her she will be amenable to various things. Unless she is a pro she will be scared.

5. Always treat her with respect and try to be generous if she is nice and good.

JustForFun21
10-01-13, 22:07
There are many more places to sit in the rear area, and many of the women just don't wander out to the tables near the entrance. Remember the experience at dance clubs when you make a long and conspicuous walk to ask an attractive woman to dance, and then she turns you down: the walk back is a long walk of shame. So these women are no different. Most don't want to be seen making a shot at some guy out at the front tables, and then have to walk back past other potential customers who have seen them rejected by another guy. There are some fuglie and desperate exceptions, but most like to make their fishing expeditions shorter, and that is easier to do in the area to the rear. Also, since the CRs (restrooms) are in the rear, a failed expedition can be concealed by a side excursion into the CR.

Finally, even if you end up talking with women you don't want to take out, you can learn a lot by talking with them, and sometimes, knowing that you don't find them appealing, they will invite a girlfriend over who may be to your liking. But this kind of interaction is not very practical if you're sitting out at the tables near the entrance.

At the front tables too many of the sightings are of women going somewhere else. Just ask yourself whether you'd rather shoot fish in a barrel or try to shoot them as they swim by in fast-moving current.Thanks Skip Kost for the excellent and practical suggestion. I will certainly follow your tip when I go next time.

JustForFun21
10-01-13, 22:18
They didn't go to work by subway / jeepney / trike dressed like that either, so they will have more "normal" clothes available they can get into before going with you.

And if you want them to bring the revealing dress and change back to that after arriving to your room, I'm sure that can be arranged too.That's indeed an useful tip as I was worried about the walk of shame to walk with the girls in such a revealing dress. Next time onwards, I will at least check with the girl to find out whether she has normal clothes. Thanks buddy for the tip.

JustForFun21
10-01-13, 22:47
the second day was a busy day with lots of shopping and returned to hotel after a tiring day. so, didn't get the mood to venture out to pursue a new opportunity and hence decided to try an in-call massage (i had the courage to do it even after the bitter experience the first day. but this time, i started specifically looking for "lingam" massage. i heard about this before and wanted to try it. found a contact in craiglist along with the link. it explained the details of the service and i was game for it. called the number, agreed for 2000pesos rate (no bargain as mentioned in her website clearly). she was energetic, did lot of chit chat and started with the regular therapautic massage. she explained that she would do therapautic first and the last 30 mins she will do the "lingam" massage.

the massage was good but the best part of it started with the lingam massage. she applied lot of oil on my johnny and started stroking it with some technique which i could not explain. she also did prostate massage (anal fingering) and "balls" massage as part of this. it was such a beautiful experience that i started shivering slightly when i was climaxing. a great experience indeed. if you like massage with happy ending, then instead of taking the regular hj or bj massage, please try this lingam massage. it will be a worthwhile experience (in my opinion). i offered here a 500peso tip and she went back happily. i went back to sleep happily and peacefully.

note:

- if you have not heard about lingam massage before, then i would suggest you to google some webpages about this to get a better understanding of the purpose and technique. one such website is manilamassage. org. it explains with good pictures and hence could be a good reading.

- many of the "lingam and yoni" therapist do not offer full service or full nude massage. so, please double check with the therapist if you're particular about extra services.

- i understand that there are many spa's also offer lingam massage these days though not all of them seem to be experienced in this. it's good to take lingam massage from an specialist person as otherwise it will just end up becoming an another hand job.

OnePackGuy
10-02-13, 00:10
the second day was a busy day with lots of shopping and returned to hotel after a tiring day. so, didn't get the mood to venture out to pursue a new opportunity and hence decided to try an in-call massage (i had the courage to do it even after the bitter experience the first day. but this time, i started specifically looking for "lingam" massage. i heard about this before and wanted to try it. found a contact in craiglist along with the link. it explained the details of the service and i was game for it. called the number, agreed for 2000pesos rate (no bargain as mentioned in her website clearly). she was energetic, did lot of chit chat and started with the regular therapautic massage. she explained that she would do therapautic first and the last 30 mins she will do the "lingam" massage.

the massage was good but the best part of it started with the lingam massage. she applied lot of oil on my johnny and started stroking it with some technique which i could not explain. she also did prostate massage (anal fingering) and "balls" massage as part of this. it was such a beautiful experience that i started shivering slightly when i was climaxing. a great experience indeed. if you like massage with happy ending, then instead of taking the regular hj or bj massage, please try this lingam massage. it will be a worthwhile experience (in my opinion). i offered here a 500peso tip and she went back happily. i went back to sleep happily and peacefully.

note:

- if you have not heard about lingam massage before, then i would suggest you to google some webpages about this to get a better understanding of the purpose and technique. one such website is manilamassage. org. it explains with good pictures and hence could be a good reading.

- many of the "lingam and yoni" therapist do not offer full service or full nude massage. so, please double check with the therapist if you're particular about extra services.

- i understand that there are many spa's also offer lingam massage these days though not all of them seem to be experienced in this. it's good to take lingam massage from an specialist person as otherwise it will just end up becoming an another hand job.lingam can be had for 600-800 and if you want the finger, for 200 more. good luck.

Soapy Smith
10-02-13, 06:16
Oi! What's this I read? Dress code? I'm the geezer with a bottle of spoiled 3-month-old rhum wearing the banana hammock.

'Nuff said.Cool! Always good to be able to put a name to a face.

WestCoast1
10-02-13, 10:59
Lingam can be had for 600-800 and if you want the finger, for 200 more. Good luck.Deets for the gents please? Where?

Red Kilt
10-02-13, 12:18
Lingam can be had for 600-800 and if you want the finger, for 200 more. Good luck.Not a very helpful post 1 PG.

I presume you are referring to the Philippines since it is on the Manila board and the 600-800 is presumably pesos but I cannot infer much more than that.

As WC1 says, more details please.

Hutsori
10-02-13, 12:45
Cool! Always good to be able to put a name to a face.Better that than a putting a banana to a hammock. ;)

Kidding aside, I'm a proponent of dressy well, i.e. properly fitted clothes and not flip flops, but if one has a pulse and cash MBC will take all comers. Come to think of it, there's a more than a few zombies there so a pulse may not be required.

Hutsori
10-02-13, 13:34
Not a very helpful post 1 PG.

I presume you are referring to the Philippines since it is on the Manila board and the 600-800 is presumably pesos but I cannot infer much more than that.

As WC1 says, more details please.Agreed, a comment with more deets is better. That being said, he said Sulit, which is sulit dot com dot ph. A quick search of the site finds a few offering lingam at the claimed price, for instance:

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/24217007/massage+cheap+home/hotel+pasay+manila+makati?

Anyway, the smart punter will find the masseuse schools where lingam is taught; I'm sure volunteers are always needed to ensure her education is thorough. Note to self: open masseuse school.

OnePackGuy
10-03-13, 00:57
Agreed, a comment with more deets is better. That being said, he said Sulit, which is sulit dot com dot ph. A quick search of the site finds a few offering lingam at the claimed price, for instance:

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/24217007/massage+cheap+home/hotel+pasay+manila+makati?

Anyway, the smart punter will find the masseuse schools where lingam is taught; I'm sure volunteers are always needed to ensure her education is thorough. Note to self: open masseuse school.Given that there are so many experienced users here, I thought the mention of sulit was sufficient. I have never paid more than 700 for a HJ after a 30min massage, usually crap, but it depends on what you are looking for. I would avoid asking for a HJ from a regular massage place since you end up paying 1000-1500, so if you really want a HJ, order one from the beginning if you want to only pay 700 and in most casesps not expected at all since that is what you ordered. Now I've never thought of or heard of schools which teach HJs, but an interesting idea. Most girls tell me their roommate or BF taught them.

JustForFun21
10-03-13, 21:12
given that there are so many experienced users here, i thought the mention of sulit was sufficient. i have never paid more than 700 for a hj after a 30min massage, usually crap, but it depends on what you are looking for. i would avoid asking for a hj from a regular massage place since you end up paying 1000-1500, so if you really want a hj, order one from the beginning if you want to only pay 700 and in most casesps not expected at all since that is what you ordered. now i've never thought of or heard of schools which teach hjs, but an interesting idea. most girls tell me their roommate or bf taught them.just want to clarify that lingam massage is slightly different from regular hj. while anyone can give hj, it may not be the case with lingam and hence i would suggest you to take your first lingam experience with a reliable therapist and then you can try it in other mp's for cheaper options.

Pinaypounder
10-03-13, 22:32
Hi all well it was time to celebrate being a man in a 3rd world yesterday before heading back to fat white women.

Headed to the MBC and entered, I had already decided today was big tit day, so I was planning to be selective.

A tall 5 6 girl with a nice rack came in, Anne is her name, nothing extraordinary just of course slim and well boobed. The thing that got me was the GAP between her thighs, I could see daylight so that boded well for her future.

Chat ensued and lo and behold she confirmed she was Bisexual, her english was sort of bad.

I was happy about this as I was planning a3 some but most have been disappointing.

We chatted a crowd gathered and I bought a couple of drinks but the others confirmed they were not bisexual.

I asked Anne to find a bisexual friend and she did. Her friend was not so hot so I knew she would actually suck some pussy.

WE retired to room close to MBC and very quickly the Bisexual nature of the little one was clear.

There was joint cock sucking no annoying washing and condom changing, actual pussy eating and breast licking a nice doggies with the little one licking my balls, that my friends was worth the price of admission, doggie with pussy eating, there was excellent sucking of the cock, the little one came 3 times and took a monstrous pounding all in all one of my top 3 sexual experiences here in the Phils.

Frankly restored my faith in the porno movies because other than the guy being a fat bastard this was exactly like the 724 porno 3 some movies I watched.

Sorry no pics, I always get caught at Customs with that shit.

Have fun treat the girls well.

PP

OnePackGuy
10-04-13, 10:49
just want to clarify that lingam massage is slightly different from regular hj. while anyone can give hj, it may not be the case with lingam and hence i would suggest you to take your first lingam experience with a reliable therapist and then you can try it in other mp's for cheaper options.but you will have a very difficult time finding an authentic one. everyone advertises lingam, but it is really a greased up hand job. i've tried four providers before, and sometimes the hj is even subpar.

X Man
10-04-13, 15:42
Has anyone besides me received a pm from a certain H* asking for info that could probably be answered by RTFF? I have a feeling that several of us received the same cut and paste.

I think such questions are better off posted in public. Maybe one does not want to be flamed with the RTFF post? Or maybe one is so worried about security, he dare not post in the ISG public? That's a legit concern these days, but it also means the wanker will never post a field report of his own. Or maybe he thinks I live in Manila and will offer to be his guide. Whatever.

A quick Internet search should bring up some Metro Manila (MM) maps that should help.

Mr. H, asks for "action, moderate price hotel, not too professional (gal?) , safe, taxi from airport info". Apparently he has a loooong flight (traveling westward) and only one week.

I guess Makati is safest, but prices are higher for both hotels and companionship. That's not a bad option if you have only one week.

I prefer Ermita / Malate because of the 3rd world charm, cheap prices, access to several bars / nightlife / companionship. And the Manila bay sunset. Unrelated to Mr. H's request, Ermita puts me closer to the Swagman or S. Cross bus to AC.

As for the jet lag, the infamous LAcafe / Manila bay cafe is open 24/7. It's in Ermita. Executive, La Palma, La corona and many other hotels are in this area. I mention jet lag because a westward voyage to the far east will make you feel drowsy very early in the evening. And then you wake up at 3am!

Blu8096
10-06-13, 09:57
the second day was a busy day with lots of shopping and returned to hotel after a tiring day. so, didn't get the mood to venture out to pursue a new opportunity and hence decided to try an in-call massage (i had the courage to do it even after the bitter experience the first day. but this time, i started specifically looking for "lingam" massage. i heard about this before and wanted to try it. found a contact in craiglist along with the link. it explained the details of the service and i was game for it. called the number, agreed for 2000pesos rate (no bargain as mentioned in her website clearly). she was energetic, did lot of chit chat and started with the regular therapautic massage. she explained that she would do therapautic first and the last 30 mins she will do the "lingam" massage.

the massage was good but the best part of it started with the lingam massage. she applied lot of oil on my johnny and started stroking it with some technique which i could not explain. she also did prostate massage (anal fingering) and "balls" massage as part of this. it was such a beautiful experience that i started shivering slightly when i was climaxing. a great experience indeed. if you like massage with happy ending, then instead of taking the regular hj or bj massage, please try this lingam massage. it will be a worthwhile experience (in my opinion). i offered here a 500peso tip and she went back happily. i went back to sleep happily and peacefully.

note:

- if you have not heard about lingam massage before, then i would suggest you to google some webpages about this to get a better understanding of the purpose and technique. one such website is manilamassage. org. it explains with good pictures and hence could be a good reading.

- many of the "lingam and yoni" therapist do not offer full service or full nude massage. so, please double check with the therapist if you're particular about extra services.

- i understand that there are many spa's also offer lingam massage these days though not all of them seem to be experienced in this. it's good to take lingam massage from an specialist person as otherwise it will just end up becoming an another hand job.you paid to have someone put their finger up your ass? wtf?

Soapy Smith
10-06-13, 11:14
You paid to have someone put their finger up your ASS? WTF?You either forgot or never saw the scene involving Seann William Scott and the sperm bank nurse in the movie *Road Trip. If you have ever done it, it is sort of unforgettable.

I had a full service pro in the states do it for me, but only the once. I did my usual oral and f / s activities with her until I was more or less satiated, but then saved the cup of coffee for the lingam massage. She did a HJ with one hand and used the other hand for a prostate massage. She actually had some little implement she used for the prostate massage, but many just use the index finger. Getting the prostate massaged while you blast off creates a sensation that is very close to excruciating, and just slightly to the pleasure side of the divide between pain and pleasure.

AlLostInSpace13
10-06-13, 21:42
You either forgot or never saw the scene involving Seann William Scott and the sperm bank nurse in the movie *Road Trip. If you have ever done it, it is sort of unforgettable.

I had a full service pro in the states do it for me, but only the once. I did my usual oral and f / s activities with her until I was more or less satiated, but then saved the cup of coffee for the lingam massage. She did a HJ with one hand and used the other hand for a prostate massage. She actually had some little implement she used for the prostate massage, but many just use the index finger. Getting the prostate massaged while you blast off creates a sensation that is very close to excruciating, and just slightly to the pleasure side of the divide between pain and pleasure.I do not mean no disrespect. I myself have experienced a rim job and thought it was exotic as well, but it's not some service that I long for. The hole is still the main event for me. If you find the prostate massage so messmerizing, may I suggest you may have a bisexual tendency that you didn't notice before.

Spaceman

WestCoast1
10-06-13, 21:50
If you find the prostate massage so messmerizing, may I suggest you may have a bisexual tendency that you didn't notice before.

SpacemanThat's rougly akin to saying that if you like f*cking a girl in the ass, that you have a closeted desire to be f*cked in the ass yourself. Not necessarily. Also, if he has a bisexual tendency (whether he noticed it or not) , so what? Its been said that we are all bisexual in one sense or another. Only the individual knows his sexuality.

Cunning Stunt
10-07-13, 00:32
you paid to have someone put their finger up your ass? wtf?could have been worse. could have being paying to put his finger up her ass! many do.

was in pattaya last week and spent a pleasant few hours with one of the imps from devils den. during the no-holes barred, anything goes action that is the usual hallmark of the imps repertoire, she pulled out a vibrator and i immediately thought 'hello, who wants some serious fun, then?'. but she had other ideas and after skinning it up and applying lube, she then proceeded to start to shove this implement up my ass. after peeling myself off the ceiling, i squeaked 'whoah, babe, what do you think you are doing? '. she gave me a knowing look and said 'try it honey, you will like it'. so i did and i did. a lot. a prostate massage by vibrator whilst you are simultaneous being blown by a girl who really knows their job will result in the most earth shattering climax of your entire life. trust me, i know.


that's a legit concern these days, but it also means the wanker will never post a field report of his own. or maybe he thinks i live in manila and will offer to be his guide. whatever.where is your spirit of altruism? we all have to start somewhere, and its usually by asking obvious and stupid questions and being knocked back by cantankerous, old wankers like you! lol.

p. s love it when yanks use wank. its nearly always in the wrong context and inappropriate. when is the last time you called a brit (or antipodean) a wanker to his face, big boy?

Hollywood124
10-07-13, 06:02
I'm in the planning stages to go to Manila, Philippines. I RTFF (Read The 'F'ing Forum) the Manila, Manila Hotels and Makati threads for countless pages and still I overwhelmed by the largest of Manila! Thanks very much to Cunning Stunt, Red Kilt and X Man for the response to my PM (Private Message). I guess I'm a little nervous as I never been to Manila, Philippines as all I ever hear about MNL is Flooding / Storms and the Rebels in a faraway Province. I also read several negative reports on other websites about MNL so I'm a bit apprehensive.

I Save and Scrimp to take four 'Break Away' short vacations from 'Sex Prison' here in California. The first two are very easy for me as I visit my good friends in Lima, Peru and Buenos Aires, Argentina. In Lima, 'David_33' an ISGer who always sets me up with the kindest ladies who are students, and In Buenos Aires, 'TL' (Tejano Libre) an ISGer who also sets me up with very nice ladies. I can't thank 'David_33' and 'TL' enough. I guess I am very spoiled by their wonderful girlfriends. BTW, I met the owner of this forum a couple of years ago and Jackson has the coolest pad, the center-piece of his house is a 'Stripper Pole' complete with mirrors, lights and professional sound system.

I was told to stay in Makati being a 'Newbie' and I guess I will go to the four most famous places for action: MBC (Manila Bay Café) , HC (Havana Club) , P. Bugos Street and EDSA. The thing is I'm not into 'Harden Pros' so I may just do the Mall route and try to pick up 'Non-Pro' ladies. I also plan to visit the Ermita Barrio (section / area?) to see the Cultural places of Manila.

OK, I do a 'First-Timer' report when I complete my short vacation. I got to get out more; 'Sex Prison' is making me Nuts! Thanks again Cunning Stunt, Red Kilt and X Man for the suggestions, Hollywood

Capistrano
10-07-13, 11:16
Where is the best hangout in Manila, preferably Pasay or Ermita area, I just want to try something different aside from Quezon City?

Thanks

Blu8096
10-07-13, 20:18
could have been worse. could have being paying to put his finger up her ass! many do.was in pattaya last week and spent a pleasant few hours with one of the imps from devils den. during the no-holes barred, anything goes action that is the usual hallmark of the imps repertoire, she pulled out a vibrator and i immediately thought 'hello, who wants some serious fun, then? '. but she had other ideas and after skinning it up and applying lube, she then proceeded to start to shove this implement up my ass. after peeling myself off the ceiling, i squeaked 'whoah, babe, what do you think you are doing? '. she gave me a knowing look and said 'try it honey, you will like it'. so i did and i did. a lot. a prostate massage by vibrator whilst you are simultaneous being blown by a girl who really knows their job will result in the most earth shattering climax of your entire life. trust me, i know.

i understand everybody is different and i am a freaky guy. i don't hate you for it but it is not for me at all.

Blu8096
10-07-13, 20:19
Not sure when I posted but a few weeks back I think but find that FR as had some online shops in the country. Or bring with you as I have done many times. If you order online from overseas many will never arrive so bring with you always easier and is cheaper as in the Philippines some prices are inflated.Thanks man I appreciate your advice. I am going to bring with me.

Arepas
10-08-13, 01:10
Greetings,

I leave to Manila next week and I am planing on hitting up clubs such as Republic, Prive at the Fort, Palladium, and Bond (All the girls at these places look 100 times better then MBC Girls, and I have never had to pay to fuck them). This is my second time going to Philippines and I always hunt alone but thought it would be great to meet up with some of you guys (safer and easier to dodge grenades). I also plan on visiting EDSA, Burgos, and Cafe Havana to see what all the fuss is about. I am in my late 20's and if any of you are into clubbing and hooking up with girls then let me know, so we can set up some good times and trade some stories. I will be here for 2 months!

Arepas
10-08-13, 04:08
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MangoDB
10-08-13, 05:02
Agree with the sex prison. I am also in the same place.

I have been to Manila quite a few time and always stayed in Makati. Nearby greenbelt, Havana cafe, Burgos always worked for me. Also Palladium is good place if you are into bar scene.

Did you also tried dateinasia route?


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I was told to stay in Makati being a 'Newbie' and I guess I will go to the four most famous places for action: MBC (Manila Bay Café) , HC (Havana Club) , P. Bugos Street and EDSA. The thing is I'm not into 'Harden Pros' so I may just do the Mall route and try to pick up 'Non-Pro' ladies. I also plan to visit the Ermita Barrio (section / area?) to see the Cultural places of Manila.

OK, I do a 'First-Timer' report when I complete my short vacation. I got to get out more; 'Sex Prison' is making me Nuts! Thanks again Cunning Stunt, Red Kilt and X Man for the suggestions, Hollywood

Capistrano
10-08-13, 05:15
i'm in the planning stages to go to manila, philippines. i rtff (read the 'f'ing forum) the manila, manila hotels and makati threads for countless pages and still i overwhelmed by the largest of manila! thanks very much to cunning stunt, red kilt and x man for the response to my pm (private message). i guess i'm a little nervous as i never been to manila, philippines as all i ever hear about mnl is flooding / storms and the rebels in a faraway province. i also read several negative reports on other websites about mnl so i'm a bit apprehensive.

i save and scrimp to take four 'break away' short vacations from 'sex prison' here in california. the first two are very easy for me as i visit my good friends in lima, peru and buenos aires, argentina. in lima, 'david_33' an isger who always sets me up with the kindest ladies who are students, and in buenos aires, 'tl' (tejano libre) an isger who also sets me up with very nice ladies. i can't thank 'david_33' and 'tl' enough. i guess i am very spoiled by their wonderful girlfriends. btw, i met the owner of this forum a couple of years ago and jackson has the coolest pad, the center-piece of his house is a 'stripper pole' complete with mirrors, lights and professional sound system.

i was told to stay in makati being a 'newbie' and i guess i will go to the four most famous places for action: mbc (manila bay café) , hc (havana club) , p. bugos street and edsa. the thing is i'm not into 'harden pros' so i may just do the mall route and try to pick up 'non-pro' ladies. i also plan to visit the ermita barrio (section / area?) to see the cultural places of manila.

ok, i do a 'first-timer' report when i complete my short vacation. i got to get out more; 'sex prison' is making me nuts! thanks again cunning stunt, red kilt and x man for the suggestions, hollywoodwhere will you stay in manila, i can recommend cubao it is less tan an hour ride from manila. it is place where bars and nightclubs rep001ters. you can do bar hopping to see the girls you wanted.

Slippery
10-08-13, 06:12
I might be "outing" myself a bit but the two guys I shared this story with at MBC last night wouldn't care if I was a member on this board or Matthew Cobb himself. Anyway, I was talking to one of the waitresses last and she showed me a campagin button one of the customers gave her. Without "outing" the guy the button was given to the waitress during working hours at MBC and he's running for City frigg'and Attorney in a city I must keep confidential. I googled his rather unusual last name and sure enough, I came up with a city attorney by that name. Another pillar of the cummunity enjoying life at MBC. I'd just love to learn how he's cleaned up his city.

Last but not least, speaking of cleaning, I was drinking alot of water, iced tea and only a couple of beers all night but all that liquid made me want to pi$$ alot. Must've hit the CR 5 times in 4 hours. Each and every time I was in the CR there was a guy in there cleaning it. Quite impressive as opposed to past year.

And no, I've never run for public office.

Soapy Smith
10-08-13, 07:19
Last but not least, speaking of cleaning, I was drinking alot of water, iced tea and only a couple of beers all night but all that liquid made me want to pi$$ alot. Must've hit the CR 5 times in 4 hours.I have been told by several of the FLs at MBC in the past that MBC makes its ice from unfiltered water. Many of them stay with draft beer or beer and soda sealed in bottles. With anything else they ask for no ice. Some knowledgeable locals have told me they look for ice that is relatively clear-meaning it's from filtered water-whereas ice from unfiltered water has a milky color. I hope your only passings were from your front side plumbing.

Soapy Smith
10-08-13, 07:45
If you find the prostate massage so messmerizing, may I suggest you may have a bisexual tendency that you didn't notice before.

SpacemanI think the rules here permit you to suggest whatever you want. So let me suggest that enjoying prostate massage is much less likely a predictor of bisexuality than is exaggerated concern about homosexuality and bisexuality. In fancy talk, rigid and exaggerated concerns are referred to by psychologists as reaction formation, roughly akin to Hamlet's observation that his mother "doth protest too much" about her innocence in the king's murder. I am not being facetious here: there is research suggesting that homosexuals in denial often exhibit an exaggerated homophobia. Here's one popular press reference, but there are numerous others:

http://www.livescience.com/19563-homophobia-hidden-homosexuals.html

Jp Slicky
10-08-13, 12:09
Is it agaist the law to have nude photos on your computer so long they are above the age of 18?

True Crypt can help that I suppose

BionicMan
10-08-13, 13:42
I think the rules here permit (omissis)Where is "like" button? All well said.

Hutsori
10-08-13, 16:07
I have been told by several of the FLs at MBC in the past that MBC makes its ice from unfiltered water. Many of them stay with draft beer or beer and soda sealed in bottles. With anything else they ask for no ice. .

I've been drinking good ol' Manila tap water in brewed tea (3-4 pots a day) and as ice for over a year now here and have seen no ill effects. I've had the dash-to-the-loo shits just once, and I think it was due to food; an over-the-counter anti-diarrhoeal tablet took care of that in short order. I should mention I have caught the flu five times (and the clap once) from girls, yet we rarely, if ever, see anyone cautioning us about swapping spit. Anyway, if I recall the symptoms of Dehli belly / Montezuma's revenge it's seen more from the back side side than the front.

JustForFun21
10-08-13, 21:43
After experiencing MBC and Freelance massage, my next destination was EDSA Entertainment Complex. Somehow, I decided to skip the clubs / bars in Makati / Burgos due to their high bar fine.

Reached EDSA at around 11. 45pm on Friday and went straight to the Pitstop. Interestingly, only two customers were there (being Friday night, I thought that there would be several customers similar to the Go Go bar scene in Bangkok but it was not the case). There were 10 girls in the stage with no movements, very little dancing. Not sure whether they were tired. Mamasan came and sat next to me and suggested to push couple of girls but I was not interested. After few mins, I spot a beauty in the stage but she seemed liked a girl with an attitude. Asked mamasan about the girl and mamasan confirmed that the girl "Jackie" is good and she do not have any attitude issues. The rate quoted was 1950 bar fine + 3000 (for ST) or 4500 (for LT) as the tip. Then called the girl and directly spoke to her for the tip and finally agreed for 3000 LT.

Jackie seemed a nice girl in person (than what I saw in stage) and she later attributed some headache as the reason for her stage performance. Came to the hotel room, had some chit chat and she asked whether she can take a bath (+1 for her cleanliness). After bath, she came to the bed naked and I was just feeling her soft skin across the body. Jackie is in her early 20's and a single mom, there was no big birth mark in her belly. Slowly started with a DFK and after a bit of foreplay, banged her in cowboy position. She was moaning but I could understand that she was faking it. But no issues as this was the first time a girl was moaning during my sex'perience'. Once the first session was finished, we again started some chit chat. I told her that I visited MBC the other day but didn't find a beauty like hers. She immediately advised me not to go for MBC as it's not safe. She informed that the reason for the high bar fine in EDSA is because of the regular medical tests that the girls had to undergo. She added that having girls from MBC means they were not medically tested and hence there is a risk with those freelancer girls compared to the girls in EDSA. I found it to be logical and decided that I need to be bit careful when I visit MBC next time. Then I was ready for a second session and asked for a BJ. She asked me to clean my Johnny (+1 for ensuring my cleanliness) and also came to the bathroom to wash my Johny properly. Then she gave a very good BBBJ. The session lasted for some time in different positions and then we slept cuddling each other. I allowed her to go in the morning at around 6am (the time we agreed before leaving EDSA). She also told me as an additional information that many girls in EDSA, even if they agree for a LT, will try to leave early by citing some reasons. Based on few of the earlier reports in this report, I agree that she was right.

This was the first time I went for LT and I thoroughly enjoyed it due to the GFE. It was not a fuck and forget experience but rather an experience that will linger in my mind for long time.

What you may not like in her:

- No anal and she don't like people caressing her nipples (I was okay with that)

- No CIM and no sex without condom.

She may not be a great pick for the senior mongers who expect wild experience. But I would strongly recommend Jackie for new mongers and for those who look for "no nonsense" girl friend experience. This is my end of Manila trip but I would love to go again mainly because of this experience. I took Jackie's mobile number and told her that I will contact her directly next time when I come to Manila. Overall, I was a HAPPY MAN at the end of my trip.

Happy & Safe mongering everyone.

Hollywood124
10-09-13, 04:31
thanks capistrano. i'm staying makati. i was told to stay there since i was a "first-timer" and a "gringo!" i'll check out your tip. i'm not really interested in the bars and the harden pro scene. i guess i will try the malls and try to pick up non pros (if there is such a thing). thanks again for your input!


where will you stay in manila, i can recommend cubao it is less tan an hour ride from manila. it is place where bars and nightclubs rep001ters. you can do bar hopping to see the girls you wanted.

http://sex-maps.com/?pos=14.597936261079802

121. 04643796164554&z=12

Hollywood124
10-09-13, 04:38
No, but I'll try the DateinAsia service to see if I can meet some nice "Non Pros" (if the word "Non Pro" makes sense?) I'm not into the bar scene. I don't drink or dance much so going to a bar does not interest me. Thanks again for the tip and I'll give my report when I finish my trip to MNL.


Agree with the sex prison. I am also in the same place.

I have been to Manila quite a few time and always stayed in Makati. Nearby greenbelt, Havana cafe, Burgos always worked for me. Also Palladium is good place if you are into bar scene.

Did you also tried dateinasia route?

Arepas
10-09-13, 05:58
Does anyone know the exact closing times for the top places on Burgos street? Does it change during the week? Also can you answer the same for EDSA?

Also, I was on a conference call with my company and they reference edsa, so I am assuming this a street or a town? Can someone clarify that for me, and what do I tell taxi driver in order to get there.

Thanks! I will be there for 7 weeks and will give my reports on my findings!

Soapy Smith
10-09-13, 06:16
I've been drinking good ol' Manila tap water in brewed tea (3-4 pots a day) and as ice for over a year now here and have seen no ill effects. I've had the dash-to-the-loo shits just once, and I think it was due to food; an over-the-counter anti-diarrhoeal tablet took care of that in short order. I should mention I have caught the flu five times (and the clap once) from girls, yet we rarely, if ever, see anyone cautioning us about swapping spit. Anyway, if I recall the symptoms of Dehli belly / Montezuma's revenge it's seen more from the back side side than the front.I think your innards have a stronger constitution than do mine. Or perhaps the places where you have gotten the ice-and perhaps the water where you live-is in fact filtered. Many better restaurants and some higher end residential buildings do have their own filters. MBC is not my idea of a better restaurant. My point in wishing him well at keeping his problematic passings in his front end plumbing was my obtuse way of hoping he wasn't experiencing "turista."

Red Kilt
10-09-13, 09:17
. Snip.

She immediately advised me not to go for MBC as it's not safe. She informed that the reason for the high bar fine in EDSA is because of the regular medical tests that the girls had to undergo. She added that having girls from MBC means they were not medically tested and hence there is a risk with those freelancer girls compared to the girls in EDSA. Snip. .Great report J4F. Glad you enjoyed your visit.

The highlighted comment above is from a very naive girl. Regular medical tests are NOT the reason for the high bar fines in EDSA IEC or Burgos street or anywhere else. It is more a combination of the higher rents these mid-city bars pay as well as the perceived "better-heeled" punters who frequent the bars.

The medical tests are done by public GPs employed by local city councils and are generally set up as "discount packages" to test each girl. Tests last a few mins and they churn out 100s per day, which is why guys are cautioned not to invest too much trust in whether the girls are clean or not just because they have a certificate that says so.

Your girl's comment that FLs are more riskier than bar / gs is often true and especially if the girl is not employable in a bar. It might mean she is under-age, has an anti-social demeanor, is a trouble-maker or a thief or has a nasty disease that hasn't been treated.

She might also just be a once-a-month-for-extra-pocket money girl and hence could well be a diamond in the rough.

Don't write off MBC just because your SYT says so.

Sammon
10-09-13, 12:51
Great report J4F. Glad you enjoyed your visit.

The highlighted comment above is from a very naive girl. Regular medical tests are NOT the reason for the high bar fines in EDSA IEC or Burgos street or anywhere else. It is more a combination of the higher rents these mid-city bars pay as well as the perceived "better-heeled" punters who frequent the bars.

The medical tests are done by public GPs employed by local city councils and are generally set up as "discount packages" to test each girl. Tests last a few mins and they churn out 100s per day, which is why guys are cautioned not to invest too much trust in whether the girls are clean or not just because they have a certificate that says so.

Your girl's comment that FLs are more riskier than bar / gs is often true and especially if the girl is not employable in a bar. It might mean she is under-age, has an anti-social demeanor, is a trouble-maker or a thief or has a nasty disease that hasn't been treated.

She might also just be a once-a-month-for-extra-pocket money girl and hence could well be a diamond in the rough.

Don't write off MBC just because your SYT says so.None of the working girls and some non working girls are 100% safe. Medical check up for bargirls is a eye wash. Ofcourse if they have a nasty discharge the doctor will notice it and put her on antibiotics and tell her not to have sex for a week. Even in AC it is the same. As for freelancers it is hard to say. There are many single mothers, students looking for tuition money, laid of workers trying to make ends meet who make a visit to MBC or other venues.

It is always better to cover up with any girl especially P4P.

MBC has plenty of part timers who come from the surrounding areas to make money for expenses. There are many novices who come with their friends also. Once I had a very shy girl who was there for the first time. She came

With her experienced friend. Her friend told me to be careful with her. I can make out this girl did not want to be in this P4P business. But after I was gentle with her she was at ease. Initially it was for a ST but it ended up as 2 adays with me. She called her friend to let her know that she was staying with me long time. Her friend did not like it a bit as she was hoping to get some commission from the newbie. The new girl shy as she was was a pleasure to be with.

Bottom line is in MBC you never know who you meet up with.

Red Kilt
10-09-13, 13:50
. SNIP.

Bottom line is in MBC you never know who you meet up with.That's exactly what I said about all FLs Samm but thanks for the extra reinforcement anyway

X Man
10-09-13, 15:21
I'm confused. You told me you were looking for "action". But now you don't like the bar scene.

If you are going to stay in Makati you really need to hit a few Burgos bars. You can order bottled water or cola. It's expensive and her drink will be even more expensive. But it is definitely worth it. They often team up and approach in pairs or more. If you have deep pockets, buy them all a drink. They'll pretend to love you, no shit. I limit the drinks to two gals, usually one.

Sometime I leave with a bird and sometime I just walk out with my bottle of water.


No, but I'll try the DateinAsia service to see if I can meet some nice "Non Pros" (if the word "Non Pro" makes sense?) I'm not into the bar scene. I don't drink or dance much so going to a bar does not interest me. Thanks again for the tip and I'll give my report when I finish my trip to MNL.

X Man
10-09-13, 15:34
Last weekend. What is an antipodean?


When is the last time you called a Brit (or antipodean) a wanker to his face, big boy?

Capistrano
10-09-13, 17:53
Today is the pre-season game between Indiana Pacers VS Houston Rockets, I'm sure there's so many pretty girls lurking around MOA. Monger time!

Soapy Smith
10-09-13, 18:01
She might also just be a once-a-month-for-extra-pocket money girl and hence could well be a diamond in the rough. Don't write off MBC just because your SYT says so.In a past life, when I was a frequent patron at LAC (before name change to MBC) , I encountered many of the once-a-month girls, usually from outlying areas, especially to the south-Cavite or Laguna Province, but occasionally merely from Paranaque or Pasay in Metro Manila. These are the women Samm describes. They were usually so grateful to have an opportunity to earn the money, and doubly pleased to find out I would be gentle, that they typically turned out to be quite GFE.

Most had kids and had been deserted by the fathers of the kids. Having to feed the kids was a large part of why they were doing FL work at the cafe. I was not troubled by their having had kids, as initial penetration was usually more relaxed. Before taking them out of the bar I made a point to get them into conversation about their families. If they were willing to admit they had kids, I would ask about where the kids are and when they get to see the kids. This is when you learn that they will be heading home after one trick-because the baby needs to be fed, or they are having to pay a neighbor to babysit, or they have to get a kid off to school. These are often the appreciative women that turn out to be GFE. I had one tell me as we were cleaning up afterword that, since she only does this when she needs money and is not in a relationship, she usually starts feeling horny on the bus ride into the city, knowing she will soon be having sex. IMHO this kind of GFE attitude is a reasonable trade off for not getting a drum-tight vagina.

On the other hand, if she admits to having kids back in the province whom she hasn't seen in months, or has no kids, then she is more likely a seasoned "pro," and more interested in getting it on and over quickly. I was with one once who had a little boy with her mother in one of the provinces in the Visayas. She was compliant and was good at fake erotic moaning, but in the end was just going through the motions. I went DATY on her, and she seemed willing enough. But when I felt her starting to shake and knew she was close to cumming, she suddenly sat straight up and pushed me away, saying "I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I never cum with customers." Thanks a lot. All pretenses of GFE went right out the window.

Taking time to buy them a drink and talk to them to learn about their life situations can be rewarding in my experience. If you use your noggin and think through their life situations, there are lots of things you can learn that are informative about their motivations and operating style.

Mr Gogo
10-09-13, 19:30
It wasn't even worth all that energy you took to reply. Most people just ignore his posts. I'm sure his wife or Father don't think his sense of humor is funny, he lost all credibility from the beginning. Just ignore his ass.

JustForFun21
10-09-13, 20:35
Great report J4F. Glad you enjoyed your visit.

The highlighted comment above is from a very naive girl. Regular medical tests are NOT the reason for the high bar fines in EDSA IEC or Burgos street or anywhere else. It is more a combination of the higher rents these mid-city bars pay as well as the perceived "better-heeled" punters who frequent the bars.

The medical tests are done by public GPs employed by local city councils and are generally set up as "discount packages" to test each girl. Tests last a few mins and they churn out 100s per day, which is why guys are cautioned not to invest too much trust in whether the girls are clean or not just because they have a certificate that says so.

Your girl's comment that FLs are more riskier than bar / gs is often true and especially if the girl is not employable in a bar. It might mean she is under-age, has an anti-social demeanor, is a trouble-maker or a thief or has a nasty disease that hasn't been treated.

She might also just be a once-a-month-for-extra-pocket money girl and hence could well be a diamond in the rough.

Don't write off MBC just because your SYT says so.Thanks Red Kilt for providing the clarity. I understand it now and I will not ignore MBC and will surely visit again when I come to Manila. I'm looking forward for my next trip.

JustForFun21
10-09-13, 20:37
EDSA closes at 3am everyday. I'm not sure about the bars in Burgos street.

Cool Traveler
10-09-13, 23:56
Trip Report (Delayed from late September).

Landed in Manila at 6:40 PM, exactly on time. Got upgraded, was seated in Seat 1B. So, first to get out the plane, and headed straight out. Looked like the airport was not very busy. In 15 to 20 minutes, I was out. Withdrew some money from the ATM. For those who are new, in Terminal 1, as you come out, before you exit the airport, there are couple of ATMs and currency exchange counters to your left.

Got in line for the yellow metered taxi, and in 35 minutes I was at my hotel. If the driver asks to use the skyway, use it. Saves a lot of time, especially on a rainy day. The skyway costs 20 pesos. Give it to the driver and don't complain.

Third time staying at the Holiday Inn in Makati. A five star quality hotel under 100 bucks and brand new. I strongly recommend this hotel. Very girl friendly. The service is excellent. The lobby is on the 4th floor. So, if you are taking girls up, you only have to get through security at the ground floor and don't have to pass the lobby section. Well half a walk of shame anyway. But you still have to go through security comprising of both men and women. This hotel is attached to the Glorietta Mall, which sits sandwiched between Shangri La and Greenbelt. Just a 5 to 10 minute walk from here to Havana. You can walk from the hotel elevator straight into Glorietta Mall using the side entrance in front.

8:30 PM. Locked away all my valuables and headed up straight to Havana. It was fairly packed even though it looked like it had rained. I walked pass and went straight to Spicy Fingers, went in, and had two beers, a snack and listened to music. I sat upstairs, so I could look down. A lot of family type people. Two tables down saw two young girls with an older gentleman. Recognized one of the girls. Had fucked the crap out of her two month earlier on my last visit to Manila. She did not recognize me. Scary thought – I wonder how many guys she goes through to a point, you don't recognize who you are fucking?

10:30 PM. I headed to Havana. Havana really picks up after 10:30 PM. Got there and it was packed. One of the waitresses recognized me, and got me a table. As I sat and started my beer, and was scoping out the 'sights', got a tap on my shoulder, and it was one of the regular girls (Christine) I had been with occasionally on my visits to Manila. So, she sat and brought her friend along. Bought them one round of drinks and we left for my room. This girl Christine brought was fairly new. In the room, it was evident, how new she was. Paid 2000 each, and let them go about 4 am. I never got to sleep. My regular guided the girl to all the things I liked. This is my fourth threesome with Christine, but a different second girl every time. Fortunately, my doctor back in LA gives me a box of Cialis 5 mg samples. I had taken this before I left the room earlier. For a regular guy with no ED, the 5mg effect lasts more than a day. I stopped when my knees felt scuffed. Crap! They did call from downstairs to check if it was ok for the girls to leave when they were exiting the hotel. By the way, they did not card or Id the girls when I took them upstairs to the room at Holiday Inn but they did call me upstairs when they left.

Slept for about 2 hours and was wide awake by 7am. Did a little bit of email, and got my coffee at the Coffee Bean and Tea Leaves next to the hotel. There is a Coffee Bean and Tea Leaves right next to the hotel. Before I left the room, I called downstairs and had asked for my room to be cleaned up. I was back up with my coffee in 30 minutes, and the room was completely redone. I was shocked. I expected to sit and wait for them to clean. Wow! Great service.

Did a walk through of my room. Shut down iPhone and stuffed it, in my bag. Turned off laptop, put it away. Made sure passports was safe. As I am going to call my next 'guest', and don't know what is in store. A first time FC girl of 28.

Got on skype, and called the FC girl I had arranged previously. She showed up an hour later, and I had planned to spend the morning with her. Extremely shy and reserved. Good thing I cleaned up the room. She wanted to know what I did after arriving. Told her I slept. By lunch time, I was addicted to this girl. She had just enough meat on her to make it nice to pound. Her boobs were big enough where I could squeeze both tits close to each other and suck on two nipples at the same time. She smelled really good, that freshly bathed smell. Had nice and juicy lips to kiss, which is important to me. Sucking on her two nipples simultaneously drove her nuts. She made a lot of noise, which turned me on more. She had one 7 year old daughter but her belly was firm, is well educated, spoke flawless English without an accent. She brought me a bottle of wine as a gift which is a first for me. I did not bring her anything. Crap! So took her to a nice lunch. Came back to my room and decided to keep her. We did a few more positions, took out my lube and her eyes widened. Told her, it was just my finger. She tried everything.

3:30 PM. Exhausted took a nap with her snuggled, spooning, nice GFE. She did not have to go home. Her family owned a business, and she had an excuse to stay away. Woke up two hours later. Really groggy. The Cialis was still pretty strong in me. Massaged her boobies, woke her up, and guided her down. She woke me up with mouth. By now I was hard, but it also hurt a little from being hard too long, too many times. It was good hurt! We spent the next hour in bed. She was rocking me by now, and decided to keep her for the night. More later.

Neworlean
10-10-13, 00:12
This report will be over very little or no use to an regular Manila visitor, and I say that so that nobody waste their time.

Manila in General: Manila is very expensive and difficult compared to the rest of the Philippines

Manila Hotel:

1) Royal Bellagio Hotel on Burgos St: This is a nice hotel on Burgos St. However, there are two problems with this hotel. One is that rooms do not have safes. The other is that the bar downstairs is fully of lady-boys and will lie to you. However, there are a few real women sitting in the lobby, but why take the chance. However a pro of this hotel is that the regular women in the bar will offer to spend the night for 2000 Pesos. There were also a few women offering to short term for 1000 pesos. However these women are few and far.

2) The Heritage Hotel: Nice Hotel. The room was much better than Bellagio and I saw numerous girls going back and forth, but none hanging in the lobby. The Heritage is on EDSA area. There are numerous clubs on the side of the Heritage hotels. You could walk but not really in walking distance.

Girls: Manila is expensive and I would completely avoid and go to Angeles City.

The girls along the side street along the heritage hotel are expensive. I am refering to the clubs about a mile behind the Heritage and about 3 miles below. There are numerous clubs. Initially many asked for 7000 peso but said would give a discount of 5000. I thought that was crazy.

I can't exactly recall but I think the Burgos St clubs were asking for about 4500 pesos.

If you ask a taxi driver to bring you to a place. Many times they will take you to a place with a white fence that looks like a garage. They are asking about 4000 peso. If you tell the taxi driver no he will usually drive you other places. He will ask you how much you want to spend and roll around showing you street girls. Some are crooks and some are not. You are taking a chance, but I would guess you would be ok. I saw one girl run with a guys money, so make sure you don't pay on the street. However everyone may not go along with that.

I saw working girls walking around Harrison Plaza Mall, but did not see any at the Mall of Asia. That doesn't mean they aren't there but the place is really busy.

LA Cafe: Used to be MBC did not have that many hot girls. I don't know the price.

In general Manila is expensive, traffic congested and a pain. It might be better for long term visitors (I was not) , but not very relaxing for a tourist. You might have to setup stuff before you get there or on DIA while you are there. Meet a girl on Burgos street who showed me her profile.

Air Force One wanted between 9000 to 11000 peso. Outrageous

Angeles City.

The best place in all of the Philippines for price and selection. This place was jumping during early October. There were tons of girls and very few guys.

Hotel: Pacific Breeze: Good hotel about 50 a night. Nothing else to say about it. A new hotel is opening called the Penthouse Hotel. It had a soft opening and I was told there is a roof top pool and rooms were 50 a night, but I can't confirm anything about it.

All I can say is make sure you go to Angeles City. Essentially all of the clubs asked for about 2000 to 2500 a girl per night. There were a few clubs where the girl were 3000 a night. However, the selection is huge.

Took the Victory Liner bus. It was 300 peso each way. There are other bus companies. There are constantly buses going to and from.

Cebu:

Good and fun city. Much easier than Manila. Fly on Cebu air for about 60 dollars. Stayed at Quest hotel for about 65 a night. Really nice hotel primarily filled with families and business travelers. Very nice hotel for the money.

Girls: Many girl at the clubs in Mango. Also a taxi driver said let me show you where girls are, and he drove about 2 miles down from the hotel. Sorry I can't remember the exact location. Pulled up and there was a man standing surrounded by about 20 girls. Offered girls for 2000 each.

Bohol is a laid back fun smaller city.

Bohol:

When you get off the boat there are numerous tax drivers. I walked up to a motorcycle taxi and asked how much to Alona beach. This was a young guy in his 20's. I said a girl was pretty and he said if you want a girl I can take you to see some at dormitories (which I guess is basically just a boarding house). He asked what type of girl do you want. I said not sure. He drove me to 3 houses and showed different women. The asking price was 2500.

Regarding the bars mentioned in the Bohol report, I can confirm I saw working girls at all. I also working girls at German owned bar. I think it was called Helmet, but can't remember exactly. There weren't any working girls on the beach but once you walked up the side alley leading to the bars (the alley before the information center) you will find working girls. I would visit the once mentioned in the Bohol report or ask a taxi driver (or bike guy). I think the bike guys are better because they are younger and they transport the girls who don't want to pay for a taxi.

Bohol is a laid back fun smaller city.

Boracay: Not much info. Stayed at hotel off the beach. Had to walk through the neighborhood was offered girls by guys. No price stated.

Chris Long
10-10-13, 01:37
This report will be over very little or no use to an regular Manila visitor, and I say that so that nobody waste their time.

Manila in General: Manila is very expensive and difficult compared to the rest of the Philippines

Manila Hotel:

1) Royal Bellagio Hotel on Burgos St: This is a nice hotel on Burgos St. However, there are two problems with this hotel. One is that rooms do not have safes. The other is that the bar downstairs is fully of lady-boys and will lie to you. However, there are a few real women sitting in the lobby, but why take the chance. However a pro of this hotel is that the regular women in the bar will offer to spend the night for 2000 Pesos. There were also a few women offering to short term for 1000 pesos. However these women are few and far.

2) The Heritage Hotel: Nice Hotel. The room was much better than Bellagio and I saw numerous girls going back and forth, but none hanging in the lobby. The Heritage is on EDSA area. There are numerous clubs on the side of the Heritage hotels. You could walk but not really in walking distance.

Girls: Manila is expensive and I would completely avoid and go to Angeles City.

The girls along the side street along the heritage hotel are expensive. I am refering to the clubs about a mile behind the Heritage and about 3 miles below. There are numerous clubs. Initially many asked for 7000 peso but said would give a discount of 5000. I thought that was crazy.

I can't exactly recall but I think the Burgos St clubs were asking for about 4500 pesos.

If you ask a taxi driver to bring you to a place. Many times they will take you to a place with a white fence that looks like a garage. They are asking about 4000 peso. If you tell the taxi driver no he will usually drive you other places. He will ask you how much you want to spend and roll around showing you street girls. Some are crooks and some are not. You are taking a chance, but I would guess you would be ok. I saw one girl run with a guys money, so make sure you don't pay on the street. However everyone may not go along with that.

I saw working girls walking around Harrison Plaza Mall, but did not see any at the Mall of Asia. That doesn't mean they aren't there but the place is really busy.

LA Cafe: Used to be MBC did not have that many hot girls. I don't know the price.

In general Manila is expensive, traffic congested and a pain. It might be better for long term visitors (I was not) , but not very relaxing for a tourist. You might have to setup stuff before you get there or on DIA while you are there. Meet a girl on Burgos street who showed me her profile.

Air Force One wanted between 9000 to 11000 peso. Outrageous

Angeles City.

The best place in all of the Philippines for price and selection. This place was jumping during early October. There were tons of girls and very few guys.

Hotel: Pacific Breeze: Good hotel about 50 a night. Nothing else to say about it. A new hotel is opening called the Penthouse Hotel. It had a soft opening and I was told there is a roof top pool and rooms were 50 a night, but I can't confirm anything about it.

All I can say is make sure you go to Angeles City. Essentially all of the clubs asked for about 2000 to 2500 a girl per night. There were a few clubs where the girl were 3000 a night. However, the selection is huge.

Took the Victory Liner bus. It was 300 peso each way. There are other bus companies. There are constantly buses going to and from...This is an excellent report, filled with valuable information, this is the way trip reports should be. Basic how to and what to expect and where to find information, perfect.

Good Work,

Chris

BrainDrain
10-10-13, 04:25
Two tables down saw two young girls with an older gentleman. Recognized one of the girls. Had fucked the crap out of her two month earlier on my last visit to Manila. She did not recognize me. Scary thought – I wonder how many guys she goes through to a point, you don't recognize who you are fucking?Try not to have these thoughts and questions. It can only break our hearts. On my last visit I started to realise what a small community of girls it can be that meet us foreigners. I much prefer my image that I'm the only one.

I know that in between my six monthly visit I don't want to know how many other 3 days visitors my various friends have seen.

Barry Mundi
10-10-13, 04:50
Different report as most of you delve in the tourist area.Mine is based araound Cainta Junction.

OK best deal short time was 350 peso but after she spent a good 2 minutes sqeezing my dick I came to the conclusion that she had had the jack a few times. 100 peso move on.

I frequent a bar at the junction where staff are willing to supply "no baby girls" in that they have not had a pregnacy.All well and 500 peso short time.

Pick up one and if does all the good full service keep them overnight at another 500.

Say to them (just my fetish) have you got a freind and yes they all have a friend, 2 girls the friend is new to the streets or first time.

Great so I have had a full experince for 500 and she stayed till the morning, and naturally ate the fridge out.

Being the wrong side of 50 and nearing 60, decide I will need support so I go to the local Hg Pharmacy (locals will understand the chemical name) and get a help from viagra.

Great got the pizza got the chips got the coke and sprite 2 girls are coming soon.

They arrive my previous girl presents strong and sexual. Removed her nickers in the lift, the other one is in jeans and says sorry but cuddles and carresses my body. We all eat as we play with each other.

We play some silly strip tease game and then all are ready, so I take the viagra looking for a all time night.

We shower suck and lick and retire to the bedroom. Things are going well I am being kissed and sucked I mount my old friend and play a few minutes to get into the new one, and I go in its great 19 no babys.

And suddenly I feel the Viagra kick in, it startes with "whats going on" my dick lost its hard on.

I became listless and loosing my balance, the 2 girls noted the change and I fell on the floor.

They scream while they eat the food, I try to get a semblance of order but I feel myself difting into unconciosness and then I had the most massive bowel action in my life my entire bowel was emptyied in less than a minute, I feel myself being unconscious.

The girls run with payment I stumble to the shower and clean myself.

Being involved in the medical field I knew I had bad viagra and the makeup of the tablet is consistant with diabetic drugs to lower ones blood sugar level so I had a few bottles of sprite and starting drinking them to up my depeted sugar levels.

By 0800 I was fine.

Story is bring your supplys from home and do not go to the Hg Pharmacy.

But all in all short time 500 peso and arrange a friend and you will have the best sexual experience in your life.

Just add in pizza and a few mobile credits.

Barramun

Cunning Stunt
10-10-13, 07:19
Last weekend.Congratulations on not getting your face rearranged. Must have been a close and understanding friend or a complete wuss.


What is an antipodean?Its not a sexual perversion. I don't think. Although if you developed an unnatural compulsion to shag kangaroo's or cute little koala bears, maybe that might be termed antipodeanophilia. Better check with Red Kilt on that one.

Red Kilt
10-10-13, 09:48
Its not a sexual perversion. I don't think. Although if you developed an unnatural compulsion to shag kangaroo's or cute little koala bears, maybe that might be termed antipodeanophilia. Better check with Red Kilt on that one.I had better clarify this in case my sexual predilections and perversions alluded to by CS take on a life of their own. And sorry, I am not sharing any contacts with anyone, especially that cute little koala from just east of the black stump.

The antipodes is actually any point on the Earth's surface which is diametrically opposite to it.

It gained most currency some couple of hundred years ago because when you constructed a straight line running through the centre of the Earth from the British Isles you ended up somewhere near to the south of Australia and so the worthy burghers of England used "antipodean" to describe us residents of the great south land (including the Kiwis).

Of course, it works the other way too, so we in Oz can also call Pommies antipodeans too. The antipodes of Australia are somewhere in the North Atlantic Ocean.

Literally, it means "opposing the foot" (anti = opposite; podes foot) so I guess it could mean any person who rejects the idea of the big toe being used as a functional tool.

Don't laugh either. I am sure some of our more kinkier members (WR has raised his hand) have tried using a well lubed toe to titillate a friend.

(Question: How do you titillate an ocelot? Answer: You oscillate its titalot)

FreebieFan
10-10-13, 11:18
I had better clarify this in case my sexual predilections and perversions alluded to by CS take on a life of their own. And sorry, I am not sharing any contacts with anyone, especially that cute little koala from just east of the black stump.

The antipodes is actually any point on the Earth's surface which is diametrically opposite to it.

It gained most currency some couple of hundred years ago because when you constructed a straight line running through the centre of the Earth from the British Isles you ended up somewhere near to the south of Australia and so the worthy burghers of England used "antipodean" to describe us residents of the great south land (including the Kiwis).

Lubed toe to titillate a friend.Intelligence and eloquence.

Hutsori
10-10-13, 11:19
I much prefer my image that I'm the only one.Oy vey! Talk about cognitive dissonance.

I love listening to their stories about all the guys they've met and banged. Some fellas are really whack.

X Man
10-10-13, 12:48
I don't have any close friends. But the more I research about wanker, the more I understand CS.


Congratulations on not getting your face rearranged. Must have been a close and understanding friend or a complete wuss.

Its not a sexual perversion. I don't think. Although if you developed an unnatural compulsion to shag kangaroo's or cute little koala bears, maybe that might be termed antipodeanophilia. Better check with Red Kilt on that one.

Arepas
10-11-13, 00:58
So I am 27 and I often get whiskey dick (meaning unless the girl is super duper hot, I can't get hard when I have to many drinks in me). I know it's not recommended, but has anyone tried taking Viagra while drinking?

Also, I will be staying at the Shangrila (no idea how spell it) for the next 2 months in Makati. Where can I get some pills near by? I just read some horror story about some guy who shit himself during a threesome (Epic story BTW) , so I don't want some bad pills.

Thanks

Traveling John 2
10-11-13, 03:53
Yes you can take Viagra while drinking. Philippines is not the best place to get pills. Street vendors sell stuff, but many post will warn you and no way of knowing what you are really getting. If you can make a trip to Bangkok, much easier and very cheap.

BrainDrain
10-11-13, 08:19
Viagra and drinking alcohol are not recommended as per the information sheet.

Cheap places for buying Viagra have been mentioned in this forum.

ElRayo55
10-11-13, 10:32
A while back I read on one of the forums can't recall which one someone recommeded a driver with a mini van. I have a girl in Bulucan and she wants to bring her fam to manila to spend some time with me. And you guys know when they mean family it is not small.

Any info or contacts of a driver who won't rip me off and provide a resonable price would be greatly appreciated Thanking you in advance.

Dg8787
10-11-13, 19:51
A while back I read on one of the forums can't recall which one someone recommeded a driver with a mini van. I have a girl in Bulucan and she wants to bring her fam to manila to spend some time with me. And you guys know when they mean family it is not small.

Any info or contacts of a driver who won't rip me off and provide a resonable price would be greatly appreciated Thanking you in advance.Not sure if you were referring to my post or not. Gilbert is very reliable and will go 400+ miles north or south from Manila.

Manila to Angeles 2600 pesos which includes 500 for tolls.

Hutsori
10-12-13, 02:53
This FR will cover the hours from dawn to 1pm on a weekday.

I met a long-time m8 who was in town for 16 hours and who had never been to MBC. On a Friday morning at 330 am MBC is still a happening place, plenty of women there, though most are 4-6 in looks and a odd 7 here and there (in my book 9's and 10's are models or have that look, and I think I've never seen one of that calbre in MBC). By sunrise most of the girls had cleared out, perhaps 20 to 30 still hanging around. Both pool tables were still active. The best looking girl in the place was running her table through the morning. At 11 am or so the girls starting arriving. By the time I split at 1pm there were 50 to 60 of them there, and I'm sure the place continues to fill through the afternoon.

My m8 was keen to find a ST and spoke to 5 girls. The girls quoted 1500 for 3 hours; appears there is no dawn discount. I told him he ought to ask about the number of pops permitted in that 3-hour period. "One," was the common answer. He was taken aback a bit. All is negotiable of course and when pressed the girls agreed to 2 or 3. Sans condom, CIF, CIM, and anal were also discussed, and the anal was a no-go zone; in the girls' defence my m8 is hulking 6'5", and I'm certain they all imagined what he was packing and shuddered at thought of it pumping in and out of their respective keisters.

What else do I recall?

A couple of Korean guys came in at 11 and were swarmed by a half dozen girls.

The band's last set began in 3 am and I think they wrapped up at 4. There's a cover charge of p100; I don't recall this being charged 2 months or so ago when the bands resumed playing there. Yes, there was a cover charge long ago.

Ice was delivered so the claim that MBC makes its own ice appears to be unfounded.

I chatted with several girls through the morning and all were quite entertaining and forthcoming about their lives and work.

Hutsori
10-12-13, 04:35
No ac anywhere in Manila.

I suggest you go to Zamboanga City.

Lots of ac thereThere was ac there, but the Muslim rebels destroyed it during their 3-week firefight with the Army. Something about chilly air being "haram". Go figure.

ElRayo55
10-12-13, 21:07
Not sure if you were referring to my post or not. Gilbert is very reliable and will go 400+ miles north or south from Manila.

Manila to Angeles 2600 pesos which includes 500 for tolls.Bro could you please post Gilberts info CP number I wil be there in mid Novemeber and need reliabe trasportation.

Thanks

Dg8787
10-13-13, 00:04
Bro could you please post Gilberts info CP number I wil be there in mid Novemeber and need reliabe trasportation.

ThanksSure Gilbert. You can look up post #130 in Getting around in Manila.

Apeman 28
10-13-13, 02:05
Went sniffing for some fun last night between the hours of 7-9 pm and must say I have never seen such a ugly / fat / old bunch of. Birds before, In my desperation I chatted up a very average bird and she would not budge from 2500 P for short time, I just laughed and said she needs to see a doctor. I will save the custard for Bangkok tonight. Where have the birds gone to, I wish I had stayed that extra night in AC, but was worried about the potential floods in Manila stuffing my early arvo departure.

LukeSkywalker
10-13-13, 16:49
There are a lot of old and ugly girls with rotten attitudes in MBC. However, every time I went o MBC I managed to find some very nice girls for hot sex at low rates. You just have to ignore the absurd demands by some of these ugly, stupid girls and keep on shopping.

Last year I arrived in Manila and checked into the hotel in the afternoon. I was so horny so I headed to MBC immediately. After rejecting a few rotten hos, I struck a deal with a very good-looking young girl for 2 hours. 3 shots for 1200 pesos, which was about $US25.

Walked with her hand in hand back to the hotel. She was a very nice, sweet, gentle girl with a tall, lean, tight body with unblemished tan skin. She wrapped her full lips around my dick. I was so horny after the long flight, I got hard real quick. I entered her tight pussy slowly, making very gentle love with her, kissing her lips and sucking on her tongue for a long time. Finally I came very satisfyingly. I rested a bit, caressing her young, lean body and her tight, soft crotch and quickly got hard again. I got on top of her, kissing her mouth, my dick was in her tight crotch, ready to penetrate her tight pussy, but she said her pussy was sore, so I gave her a rest.

I made gentle love to her 3 times in over 2 hours. At the end, she put on her panties and applied high liner and lip stick to go back to MBC. That's her in the pics. She said her pussy was sore. My dick is below average in length and girth, nothing to brag about, but it's very unusual that I only heard about this pussy soreness issue with Pinays in the Phil and nowhere else in the world. May be it's just their way of manipulation, making me feel guilty for hurting their pussies for more tips. I did give her a tip for putting up with me. Any bro heard any complaints about sored pussies?

The same night I went to some fishbowls in Ermita and Makati and picked out another young and very good-looking girl. I was fucking her all night and came 4 more times. I came 7 very satisfying times within 24 hours in Manila. That was how sexy and attractive Pinays are to me. Of course they speak almost perfect English and have better manners, almost American-like, compared to hos in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and other Asian countries, except probably China and Japan. So I had more emotional connection with them and sex feels much better with these sweet young girls. Will report about the fishbowls ventures in Manila separately.

There is something about Pinays with their tight, lean bodies and their sweet gentleness that really turn me on sexually.


Went sniffing for some fun last night between the hours of 7-9 pm and must say I have never seen such a ugly / fat / old bunch of. Birds before, In my desperation I chatted up a very average bird and she would not budge from 2500 P for short time, I just laughed and said she needs to see a doctor. I will save the custard for Bangkok tonight. Where have the birds gone to, I wish I had stayed that extra night in AC, but was worried about the potential floods in Manila stuffing my early arvo departure.

Pip Jaeger
10-16-13, 01:55
Arrived a few nights ago and I again got my 59 day visa right at the airport. As it was late and the regular office was closed I went to the immigration booth on the far left (signage said: "Special Assistance / Diplomats"). The officer called over a supervisor, who led me to the another office off to the right. He collected my passport and 2, 750php; he then directed another officer to run to the cashier as he did a quick NBI check. A few minutes later I had the receipt in hand and was instructed to return to the same booth. Passport was stamped and I was waved through. I did ask the supervisor what would happen if a traveler did not have any pesos. He told me that you would be escorted though immigration and customs to the bank / money exchange in the lobby and allowed to exchange to local currency. Your carry on luggage would be secured in their offices.

Now for the unpleasant part, due to the lack of white taxis and the bad weather the traffic was horrendous. There was over a 2 hour wait for yellow taxis! I opted for the fixed rate ones as the line seemed to move faster. It still took just over an hour and the cost was 480p; more than double what a white taxi would've cost, but I didn't care as all I wanted to do was get to the hotel, shower and head out hunting.

After checking in at my hotel near Robinsons (Ermita) and taking a shower I headed out with the intention of going to MBC. Just up the street from the hotel I spotted a sign for a 99php massage (the fine print: hand and foot only) and near the entrance was a very cute masseuse. As I was stiff and sore from the long fights I opted to get a massage and head over to MBC later. I was escorted inside and checked out the menu for regular massages; 299php for a basic one hour sounded good. But when I was shown to the massage area I didn't like it; a very dark and dingy looking cubicle. I asked about hotel service = 500php for 90 minutes. So that's what we did.

After about 45 minutes of getting massaged, which was quite good, the girl asked if I wanted any extra services; hand or BJ only, no full service. I was quoted 1k and 2k respectively (this was above and beyond the initial 500p). I laughed and told the girl that I could get a girl from MBC or Robinsons to give me full service for about 1, 500. She instantly came down on her price and we agreed to 1000p (1,500p all in) for a BBBJ with CIM (spit) , for her to get naked and to also allow me to play with her pussy. She got naked and positioned herself to give me access to stroke her pussy, which was already very wet. The BJ was was quite good and without any protest I moved her into a 69. After eating her until she came twice (the first one was really fast) I pushed her off my face and let her finish me with her mouth.

Needless to say, exhaustion set in and I didn't make it to MBC that night, LOL.

Hutsori
10-16-13, 03:13
... my dick was in her tight crotch, ready to penetrate her tight pussy, but she said her pussy was sore, so I gave her a rest.

I made gentle love to her 3 times in over 2 hours. At the end, she put on her panties and applied high liner and lip stick to go back to MBC. That's her in the pics. She said her pussy was sore.Good report. Even better on you to ignore her shuteye-time-on-your-dime gambit. This I'm-sore ploy is merely a way to avoid pops 2, 3, and 4.

Mr Enternational
10-16-13, 04:16
but it's very unusual that I only heard about this pussy soreness issue with Pinays in the Phil and nowhere else in the world. May be it's just their way of manipulation, making me feel guilty for hurting their pussies for more tips. I did give her a tip for putting up with me. Any bro heard any complaints about sored pussies?Funny you should ask. Yesterday I just came back from a trip to Mexico where a woman (American) in my travel group was an ob / gyn. We had made plans to get in the jacuzzi in her room, but she wanted to go party some more. So I told her she knew where she could find me when she was ready. (In my room sleeping.) Right after midnight she called and told me to meet her in her room. Whatever... Whatever. We just talked on facebook a few minutes ago. She said,"I think we had a shower together... I really don't remember anything after that... My vagina was sore, so I'm assuming we did something." No idea why she had to assume when I left the condom package on her nightstand. But the point is yes, there is a such thing as soreness, and this coming from a lady parts doctor's first hand experience less than 48 hours ago.

Another example. I met a chick who lives in Bangkok on a language site. I live in Pattaya. She is older, but had only had sex a couple of times in her life. Last month she came to see me and we fucked. It felt like there were a bunch of braided rubber bands inside of her. When we finished my dick was so sore (ended up being that way for 3 or 4 days.) She wanted to have sex some more though, but I kind of brushed her off. We talked the day before yesterday and I admitted to her that I didn't want to do it anymore because she was too tight and made me sore. She said that I made her sore too, but asked to do it more because that is what she thought I wanted.

Discovery21
10-16-13, 12:03
I had a question about my best option for a 4-5 hour layover in Manila next Thursday. I arrive at 5:30 am and must be back at the airport at 11:00 am for my flight. Which would be my best option considering traffic and my limited time:

1. Starfleet (or flight 168, if open) for a couple of rounds. I'm not sure how easy it is to get a taxi back to the airport from that location.

2. MBC. Is the trek worthwhile in the early morning? I would have less time for fun and I would have few choices lest in the morning.

I realize both options won't have the best girls at that time, but I'm just looking for my best chance of finding a decent girl.

Capistrano
10-16-13, 20:24
I had a question about my best option for a 4-5 hour layover in Manila next Thursday. I arrive at 5:30 am and must be back at the airport at 11:00 am for my flight. Which would be my best option considering traffic and my limited time:

1. Starfleet (or flight 168, if open) for a couple of rounds. I'm not sure how easy it is to get a taxi back to the airport from that location.

2. MBC. Is the trek worthwhile in the early morning? I would have less time for fun and I would have few choices lest in the morning.

I realize both options won't have the best girls at that time, but I'm just looking for my best chance of finding a decent girl.As for me I choose MBC, BTW they are both accessible going to the Airport. Taxis are everywhere. Just enjoy your stay.

Slippery
10-17-13, 00:15
Second time this has happened to me in 3-4 months. Last time was in Burger King at Robinsons Midtown Mall. Yesterday again at Robinsons Midtown but I was surprised that it happened in one of the most expensive restaurants in the mall. I was enjoying lunch with a gorgeous little thing and this a$$ wipe enters the restaurant and walks directly to our table to tell me he works at my hotel. This time I stood up, extended my hand to shake his, grabbed his arm, turned him around and physically shoved the little bastard 10 feet away from our table. What surprised me was that other than than the girl I was with, not one person heard or saw what happened.

I live in a condo.

Pip Jaeger
10-17-13, 00:35
Went sniffing for some fun last night between the hours of 7-9 pm and must say I have never seen such a ugly / fat / old bunch of. Birds before, In my desperation I chatted up a very average bird and she would not budge from 2500 P for short time.You should have stuck around. I was in MBC from about 11:30pm to 1am and the place was jamming. Sure there were some fuglies, fatties and oldies, but plenty of cuties too. A good mix of customers as well; white guys, mid eastern, Filipino, Japanese and Korean; I wouldn't say any one particular race was dominant.

As I had just come off an 11 hour suck and fuck-a-thon with an FC girl (sorry guys, no pics) I was not looking to take anything out from there, I was on more of a recon mission. I did chat up a few mediocre looking mid twenties girls. If asked about what they wanted for ST, most replied by asking me by what I wanted to offer; I said 1, 500p + tip if service was good and none objected. The few who answered with a direct price told me 1, 500 to 2, 500; one said 3, 000, but she would stay all night. In each case I said I'd think about it. I was honest with one that I liked and told her I just finished with a girl and that I had "no power". I bought her a drink and asked for her number. She gave it to me and I'll try see her when I return in early December (I'm in Cebu now).

I also went back on Sunday at about 1pm. Only a few guys hanging around, again a mix, and about 20-25 girls; a few lookers, but most were average and yeah, a couple of ugly fat ones too. Shortly after I arrived a very skinny and somewhat tall girl walked in and went right to the mirrors behind the bar that are adjacent to the men's room to check her hair. I was sitting against the wall under the stairs, I caught her eye in the mirror and motioned for her to join me. I was in a weird mood and I turned the tables on her by rapidly asking her the usual questions you get from these girls: "What's your name, where you from, where you stay, you got wife, gf, kids? ; this got her laughing and the next question I asked was if she was here for business, to which she replied: "Yeah, monkey business!". We got right down to negotiations. 1,500p + tip for good service, BBBJ (no CIM, but could COB or in pussy) and DATY were all accepted. I offered her a drink, but she declined saying that she'd rather have a good tip. I recall it being mentioned here before, but I had forgotten; you are not supposed to leave together with a girl unless you buy them a ladies drink (she said they get no commission). She told me to leave first and that she would meet me a little ways up on Salas St. ; which she did.

Back in the room she did all that was promised and then some. She looked to be about 21-22, turned out she was 25, one kid, and would (like many girls) come in to Malate / Ermita from the province for a few days, earn a little cash and then go home until the money was gone. In her case she claimed that that was about every 4-6 weeks. Although she was a seasoned semi-pro she was very tight and we had a great time together. Try as I may, she refused to let me take any pics, other than one I managed to get with my cell phone of her fully clothed just before she left (I told her I wanted it so I'd have face to add to the name in my contacts).

I only managed to pop into MBC briefly one more time before I left for Cebu, Tuesday evening I simply did a quick walk through as I was on my way back from looking at another hotel for when I return and I already had repeat session with 2 girls I met on Sunday evening on Salas St while en-route to MBC (turned out to be with 3girls / pics forthcoming) so I didn't even have a drink. It was around 7pm and again I seen about 25-30 girls. To sum it up I guess we all have different tastes. Although I was only in MBC three times, each time I seen at least a half dozen girls who I would be interested in taking back to my room, though only on Saturday night would I say I seen any that were close to being a solid 8-9 in the looks department. I guess the guys who gripe about there only being fat ugly girls there either have higher expectations, are there at a really bad time or their taste in woman is much different then mine. I went there with the expectation of seeing only a bunch of real ugly girls and I found that's not the case. Yes, there's plenty of them there, but there's also plenty of decent looking girls who I'm sure you would have a great time with. I'm glad I went and I will certainly return; and no, I'm not a shill for MBC, LOL.

Hutsori
10-17-13, 02:44
I had a question about my best option for a 4-5 hour layover in Manila next Thursday. I arrive at 5:30 am and must be back at the airport at 11:00 am for my flight. Which would be my best option considering traffic and my limited time:

1. Starfleet (or flight 168, if open) for a couple of rounds. I'm not sure how easy it is to get a taxi back to the airport from that location.

2. MBC. Is the trek worthwhile in the early morning? I would have less time for fun and I would have few choices lest in the morning.

I realize both options won't have the best girls at that time, but I'm just looking for my best chance of finding a decent girl.A few days ago I posted a FR of morning-time MBC. If airport procedures and weather are in your favour you ought to be walking into MBC at 630 or so. You may want to leave your bags at the airport's luggage storage if you're returning to the same terminal. Dash upstairs to the departure terminal and grab a white taxi which will use the meter; the driver may ask for meter +p100, but he'll accept +p50. To avoid the stuck-behind-the-jeep gridlock tell the driver to take Roxas Blvd to Santa Monica St (right before the pedestrian overpass to the US Embassy) to Del Pilar. At Roxas and Santa Monica turn right and go one block (you'll pass the access road where you'll see a Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf) to Del Pilar. At Del Pilar Amazonia will be in front of you. If traffic is light have the driver turn right on Del Pilar (it's a one-way street) and drive 1 block to Salas St where MBC will be on your right; if traffic is heavy just get out and walk the one block. You'll likely find 2 dozen or so women sitting around MBC at that time. Decent is subjective; most of them will have a pulse and a vagina. You won't have much time to sit, pose, and chit chat, so circle the floor to find who strikes your fancy and make your pitch. There is a hotel just a few doors down from MBC in the direction back to Santa Monica St - I recall someone posted a report of it in the past 3 months. I recommend this place because you don't have the time to sit in traffic going to some other place even a few blocks away. You need to be back at the airport by 9 or 930, so you ought to allow 1 hour travel time back. You roughly have from 645 to 800 with your girl. This is a tight schedule, and I can think of several things that will go wrong. Feasible or not is up to you.

Oh yeah, one last point: Hailing a cab to get back to the airport. Do not catch a cab on Del Pilar because it'll be jammed and the road to enter Roxas is a bit far away. The fastest way to get back on Roxas is at UN Avenue (google maps is your friend). Walk either to the access road I mentioned above, or walk back to Salas St (but do not, I repeat DO NOT, use one of the taxis parked in front of MBC), or walk to Mabini St (it runs parallel to Del Pilar, but in the opposite direction going to UN Ave.) Tell the driver to enter Roxas from UN Ave so he isn't taking you on a time-wasting tour of Manila's clogged streets.

Hutsori
10-17-13, 02:55
You should have stuck around.

[...]

To sum it up I guess we all have different tastes. Although I was only in MBC three times, each time I seen at least a half dozen girls who I would be interested in taking back to my room,

[...]

But there's also plenty of decent looking girls who I'm sure you would have a great time with. I'm glad I went and I will certainly return; and no, I'm not a shill for MBC, LOL.Excellent report, Pip.

I think one thing needs to be clarified: "I recall it being mentioned here before, but I had forgotten; you are not supposed to leave together with a girl unless you buy them a ladies drink (she said they get no commission)." I've never heard this and haven't experienced it too. Urban legend, perhaps? The waitress will push you to buy the girl a drink, and it'll always be the shake at a whopping p300. You are right that the girl doesn't get a commission on this.

Glad you had a grand time. Enjoy Cebu.

Tally Wacker
10-17-13, 05:45
Next time can you punch him in the face for me? I guess that scam pays off well since it happened to me 3yrs ago.


Second time this has happened to me in 3-4 months. Last time was in Burger King at Robinsons Midtown Mall. Yesterday again at Robinsons Midtown but I was surprised that it happened in one of the most expensiv e restaurants in the mall. I was enjoying lunch with a gorgeous little thing and this a$$ wipe enters the restaurant and walks directly to our table to tell me he works at my hotel. This time I stood up, extended my hand to shake his, grabbed his arm, turned him around and physically shoved the little bastard 10 feet away from our table. What surprised me was that other than than the girl I was with, not one person heard or saw what happened.

I live in a condo.

LukeSkywalker
10-17-13, 07:48
Unless the girls are aroused and their pussies get wet and soften up, they may be sore. But I cannot imagine any girls could be sore if the guys wear the slippery condoms.

The girl I took from a fishbowl all night was quite a beauty with soft, supple, shiny skin. Of course her boobs are perfectly round and perky. I was having the jet lag so I could not sleep. I liked her beautiful body so much I was embracing and caressing her all night. She did complain that she could not sleep. Well I did not go all the way to the Phil for the sleep honey. LOL.

She was nice and gentle when she complained. I had a great night with this sweet, pretty, young girl.


Good report. Even better on you to ignore her shuteye-time-on-your-dime gambit. This I'm-sore ploy is merely a way to avoid pops 2, 3, and 4.

LukeSkywalker
10-17-13, 07:55
Unless the girls are aroused and their pussies get wet and soft, they can easily get sore doing sex. If she was drunk and could not remember what she did, then you were screwing a very tight pussy. LOL.

One time I was touring Asia and was screwing 4, 5 girls everyday. Even with condoms, my dick was getting sore to the point I was afraid of sex for a few days.

Sex is always much better when both parties are aroused and get maximum joy out of the encounter. I hate it when the girls just lay there like she was taking a big dump. LOL.


Funny you should ask. Yesterday I just came back from a trip to Mexico where a woman (American) in my travel group was an ob / gyn. We had made plans to get in the jacuzzi in her room, but she wanted to go party some more. So I told her she knew where she could find me when she was ready. (In my room sleeping.) Right after midnight she called and told me to meet her in her room. Whatever. Whatever. We just talked on facebook a few minutes ago. She said,"I think we had a shower together. I really don't remember anything after that. My vagina was sore, so I'm assuming we did something." No idea why she had to assume when I left the condom package on her nightstand. But the point is yes, there is a such thing as soreness, and this coming from a lady parts doctor's first hand experience less than 48 hours ago.

Another example. I met a chick who lives in Bangkok on a language site. I live in Pattaya. She is older, but had only had sex a couple of times in her life. Last month she came to see me and we fucked. It felt like there were a bunch of braided rubber bands inside of her. When we finished my dick was so sore (ended up being that way for 3 or 4 days.) She wanted to have sex some more though, but I kind of brushed her off. We talked the day before yesterday and I admitted to her that I didn't want to do it anymore because she was too tight and made me sore. She said that I made her sore too, but asked to do it more because that is what she thought I wanted.

WestCoast1
10-17-13, 09:45
SNIP!

I hate it when the girls just lay there like she was taking a big dump. LOL.Rumor has it that romance is dead.

Hutsori
10-17-13, 11:00
I hate it when the girls just lay there like she was taking a big dump. LOL.Though the imagery is graphic I'm having a hard time connecting "lay (sic) there" and "taking a big dump". One seems quite serene and the other quite strenuous. Anyway, what is the barfine for a comatose working girl? Do you tip her or her caregivers for wheeling her over to your hotel?

Cunning Stunt
10-17-13, 11:14
I hate it when the girls just lay there like she was taking a big dump. LOL.Would be a necrophiliac copraphiles dream girl, however.

X Man
10-17-13, 12:02
Hutsori, you certainly have an attention to detail. I have one question. I don't have a map in front of me and I'm not sure about the location of the htl you mentioned, but I'm thinking a walk to Roxas is shorter than a walk to UN. So, what is the advantage of walking to UN?

I have to admit that trying to catch a taxi in front of the malate church (on Roxas) is often a problem. I thought the big restaurant there (forgot the name) would be a good place to find a cab, but not so. Most of the taxis passing already had customers. I may be answering my own question here.


A few days ago I posted a FR of morning-time MBC. If airport procedures and weather are in your favour you ought to be walking into MBC at 630 or so.

SNIP SNIP.

The fastest way to get back on Roxas is at UN Avenue (google maps is your friend). Walk either to the access road I mentioned above, or walk back to Salas St (but do not, I repeat DO NOT, use one of the taxis parked in front of MBC) , or walk to Mabini St (it runs parallel to Del Pilar, but in the opposite direction going to UN Ave.) Tell the driver to enter Roxas from UN Ave so he isn't taking you on a time-wasting tour of Manila's clogged streets.

Hutsori
10-17-13, 12:39
Hutsori, you certainly have an attention to detail. I have one question. I don't have a map in front of me and I'm not sure about the location of the htl you mentioned, but I'm thinking a walk to Roxas is shorter than a walk to UN. So, what is the advantage of walking to UN?

I have to admit that trying to catch a taxi in front of the malate church (on Roxas) is often a problem. I thought the big restaurant there (forgot the name) would be a good place to find a cab, but not so. Most of the taxis passing already had customers. I may be answering my own question here.Indeed I do. Thanks for saying so. The hotel (name I didn't know) is just a few doors down Del Pilar from MBC. Exit MBC, turn left, and it's approx. 20-30 metres down the street on the same side as MBC. Whatsurname posted a review of it a while back, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2505-Manila-Hotels&p=1425393&viewfull=1#post1425393.

Yes Roxas is closer than UN, but there are no buildings (except the US embassy, the Coast Guard, and the Manila Yacht Club) on Roxas. Thus finding an empty cab on Roxas itself (you'll be on the bayside of the blvd if going to the NAIA) is difficult because they are in the interior streets looking for passengers. The access road (service road) does have empty taxis, but not as many as Del Pilar or Mabini. If I were staying at that hotel I'd walk to Santa Monica, turn right, go to Mabini and catch a taxi there. The next light on Mabini is Padre Faura, but I can't recall if a vehicle can enter Roxas from Padre Faura; if they can then Padre Faura is the road to take to Roxas. I know one can do so on UN Ave.