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LukeSkywalker
05-10-14, 00:31
FreebieFan sounds like a thoughtful, reasonable bro, unlike Icky the bastard.
Man. You sound like a 14 year old who has just had his first beer.
Please, breathe, relax and think clearly and lucidly before typing.
The board works fine without all the adoloescent name calling.
I started the discussion by talking about PGH from a factual historical perspective.
Ikksman corroborated what I had written and we were both referring to the Battle of Manila, not Americas role, past present or future in saving the world.
Stay on message sunshine, contribute in a meaningful and grown up way, and we will all be the better for it.
Of cause definitely over 18. I've been reading the forum constantly and I think I have a basic Idea of where to go.
And by the way I don't write reviews much. But I help anyone with information that I have via PM, always.
Your last 9 FRs were all questions along the same lines as this one. If you RTFF you will find lots of good information on where to go so maybe review more than just the last page as plenty of information for the newbie to read and find
And then write a FR about the experience as you don't seem to do this much.
And by "young girls" please explain as the policy of the board is over 18 so I hope you mean that.
Good luck witht eh RTFF.
From my latest stay in Makati I need to share to the readers (and lurkers) what did happen to me. It is all written with a touch of humor as the situation was out of this world (atleast in my book). It is a follow up by my post in general thread worrying about time.
This DIA chick agreed to meet up with me and she was very liable she would bring her friend or not. I told her to do as she pleased as in what was most comfortable to her. She told she would bring her gay cousin. Wow I thought maby chances for a threesome raised but what did I know. A threesome as in maby this gay cousine would atleast do some lick job and maby accept some male disturbance as well.
On her way here (she was very delayed) she must have send what was like between 80 to 100 texts (my worst experience ever). Before she left (earlier same day) around 50 or so texts must have been passed through the Smart Buddy system. 50% of the texting was the BS question "what are you doing now"? (that is ofcourse ok to ask maby 1 or 2 times but not every 10 minutes).
I did tell her maby 10 times or so the adress for our meeting without helping. She could not just get it. When close she gave her phone to the driver so we made out the deal. As you may understand I was getting somewhat pissed at this moment.
She did tell she bring only her cousin, right? Well when she arrived they where 4 people. 5 if I count in the driver who was a friend of the family (was he going to wait? Or sth). Dia girl, gay cousin (was her male brother 17 yrs old) , her sister with a relatively newborn baby. I though OMG what is this but soon turned the situation into one of them surrealistic happenings and I decided WTF lets go through with this family picknic. By the way they did bring equipment for long stay as they all did carry backpacks with stuff to reside for long time outside their house. I did on instinct give out my best BS excuse so that plan of staying with me for long time vanished all in a sudden. Thanks God I am no newbie and know my way around weird situations.
I Gave the driver 500piso so he could grab a bite while waiting and off we stralled to an eatery close by. The gay brother was the one translating everything as his english was above average and almost excellent. My dia girls english was hardly anything to write about. It proved it was mostly the gay brother having arranged everything out of my girls account. We ordered some foods and I put in an order of two instant dbl black labels to calm myself down. We ate and had a failry good time as they were all friendly and the dia girl told me allready she loved me and the gay brother encouraged me to kiss her. I did to a big cheer from the rest of the familymember. The infant I do not know realising anything, for his sake I hope not.
After dinner the gay brother suddenly told me the dia girl wanted to have sex with me. That was my initial plan anyway but from this angel (he telling me) it sounded only weird. At this stage of the date I was more or less willing to just throw some money on the table and leave. But since it was such a weird situation the little head started to do the big heads work and I thought WTF. Things can hardly get any worse by now so off we went and into my apartment.
I gave the rest of the family some chocodrinks and turned on some cartoons for them to watch. I did some I'd checks and found out my DIA girl claiming to be 19 was realy 22 (blaming her profile creater, gay brother for this mishap, who cares realy?). We (me and her) went into the bedroom, closed the doors and session began.
I give her that that she put up her best effort to give decent head and she was actually kind of sexy. She did ofcourse look slightly different from her pic but so did I so could not realy blame her for the fake pic. No comments were made despite I this time did infact had a photo don't looking anything like me at all, hehe. It is my own personal experiment as I think in most cases girls don't give a shit and this time I did no upfront screeningjob as in webcam sessions.
We did a 2 pops session and she was rather horny. I was only to some extent disturbed by her "I love you" comment.
Session ended I gave her 2k piso and she was almost fainting out of pure luck. I threw in a couple of more blue notes on the table making it all in a 4k adventure (so the family could have some nice time as well) plus dinner costs and driver cost.
I escorted the family out on the street and offered them my best "get quickly away" line. I was seriously happy when all this was over so I felt like a happy man again when stralling into the Mall to sit down having a contemplative beer. Freedom! To their defence they were very friendly and nice people. The girl was also a 7 in my book. Not to bad realy. Anyone out there with simular experiences. Want to share?Thank you for this awesome report, Skogis. I had such a good laugh.
Luke, You're in violation of the terms you agreed to when you joined the ISG board. If anyone wanted to be a "bastard" they would report you to administration. If you want to continue to participate at ISG, I recommend you chill out. For the record, I'm not a moderator. Far from it. LOL.
ISG Philippines does a pretty good job of self moderation. FreebieFan was a bit harsh with his message, but I think you should take that message, blow it up, print it out, and paste it on the wall next to your computer.
FreebieFan sounds like a thoughtful, reasonable bro, unlike Icky the (unkind word deleted by X).
I recently come back fro a trip to Ermita. This was a budget trip and had very little time and thus concentrated on the Caf LA.
For you budget mongers out there in pervy land.
Round trip Cebu Pacific from Tokyo Narita to Manila for about 450 USD.
Its a budget airline and you pay for just about everything from check in luggage to food. Not even so much as water on this flight but you are allowed to bring your own food and drink. I was surprise they did not charge you to take a shit in their bathrooms. The plane was clean and on time and arrives at terminal 3 which is a halfway decent terminal. The only ***** I had was they schedule many other flights that leave at 5AM and many people from different flights checking in at the same time. 45 min wait time. If your on a budget I would recommend.
Terminal 3 taxi wait
I waited 2 hours to get a metered yellow taxi outside of terminal 3. I first tried to go up to the departure area but they have the doors to make it a Oneway only and could not get to the curb. One yellow taxi per 5 min with all others, why is it we must take a yellow from terminal 3? I saw may whites dropping people off. Hmm welcome to the Phils I guess
Stayed at the Tune hotel in Ermita.
Again you pay for everything else but the room is clean but small. Queen size bed and the room size was fine. Of course I live in Japan and am used to small rooms. There is a 7-11 downstairs with a sports bar so you do not have to brave the rif-raf of Ermita to get something. The only ***** I have is the air-cond fan is a bit loud and the doors slamming in the hallways, but satisfied with the rest.
I am 55 and slowing down I guess.
Was only able to handle 3 ladies during this trip. All met at the Caf LA.
Girl one.
She had a nice face and wonderful personality with a sense of humor. But best of all she had big tits and slicky is a sucker for big tits. I made a joke to her about using a credit card and she said sure, all you have to do is swipe it between her cleavage. I enjoyed our session and she only required 2K. Not bad and slicky jr got a nice tit fuck with other physical therapy. AI tried to take a video but the pen cam was not pointed very well.
Girl two.
This lady was great looking lady and it was a pleasure to bang such a lovely thing. She had all kinds of porn saved on her cell phone and played with herself. Now I wish I brought my vibrator with me for her to use. She was as simple minded as they come. She watched her soap drama on tv and was hooting and hollering at was the end of the world. But she left early on me as I thought she would, I was thinking while talking with her in the bar that this lady was going to do that, but I wanted to try anyways. When she was leaving she asked for a tip and I gave her 40P, so take that. I knew she was pissed and so was I. I saw her in the bar two days later and she would not even look at me. But still it was nice doing such a lovely face anyways. Next time I will try to listen to my head on my shoulders and not take her.
Girl Three.
She too was another pretty.
Problem was I was not interested in taking anyone that night and save it for my last night. I felt a bit sorry for her and told her that she could just sleep at my place as I was not in the mood and she could use a good night sleep in a decent place. I kept to my word and slept with t shirt and shorts on and she as I could see slept in her birthday suit.
In the morning she asked that I take her for a session and I hesitated at first but slicky jr said he wanted so we did. She just wanted 1K and I gave her 100P for transport. Nice face and nice body. Was a great memory seeing her do the tube steak boggie on me. Later on that night I simply did not have the want or the drive to end it with a bang (pun intended) I could tell she was physically tired and needed a good night sleep. But I sure wish I saved for last night in Ermita.
The Last day in Ermita,
I walked around handing out packets of milk and bananas to the homeless kids. It was for me just as good a high to hear *Thank you* from little girls when I gave them milk and banana. I would have given more if I was not on such a budget. I encourage others to give food instead of money to these kids. A whole bundle of bananas are only 100P.
Met some DIA girls.
I met two highly educated ones and one was educationally challenged.
Yes they were in their 40s but I wanted to meet them due to their educational background. It was good conversation and no sex. One was setting up a branch office in manila and the other was a corporate lawyer.
The other one I met in a mall and she was an hour late. She told me to meet her at a Shakeys at 4PM. But she did not get off till 4 PM and it would take time for her to get to our meeting spot. Never took travel time into consideration. We went to pizza hut and afterwards to a bar with a band. Had a few drinks and went for a walk in the park. I could sense she was in heat but the situation was that we could not do it. She kept on asking me if I wanted to meet again the next day but I did not care for her cigarettes and dumbness. The woman did not even know that Korea was divided into North and South.
A few observations and rants.
I guess I am used to the Japan train system.
Oh its 9PM and the trains do not run anymore? I guess there are no more commuters.
Air cond barely noticeable in the crowded train?
Nothing to hold on to when weaving around if standing?
No announcement that there is a train coming to the platform.
Many time cannot hear or understand the name of stop in announcement.
Train door on LRT just slams shut?
Search before getting in the station? HUH? I was also patted down before getting into Megamall too, glad it was a lady who did it.
Here is a good one. On these trains it seems that those who will board the train will get on first and those who exit get off after everyone gets on. If I am wrong, why is it that when getting off those getting on stand in front of the door and practically drag you back in?
Enough of the train system.
I was at a Cash and Carry in Makati. At the check out, you are not allowed to push your cart through after paying, No. You have to push it backwards into those standing behind you to pay and leave it there! What the Fuck? The credit card machine did not work and the cashier had to keep running 3 cashiers down to swipe the card. Man. She should have used my girl #1's cleavage or her own.
Lunch at McDonalds.
I told you it was a budget trip.
Anyways, I saw this guy waiting for the rest of his food order, so at the register counter, he unwraps his burger and eats it there and drinks his cola at the register. HUH?
Oh? 5 min to pour a cup of coffee and give it to me?
Sleeping in the streets.
I saw this guy sleeping in the street about 1/3 the way on to the street just down from the Caf LA. Sacked out right there.
Shape of the Phil ladies.
I fully understand there are plenty heifers you can see roaming in and out of the all you can eat trawfs in the USA.
But certainly a huge percentage here in the Phils and the type of pants / jeans they try to make fit makes their asses look sooo unappealing. They way their body fat is distributed makes Slicky jr go limp.
Who is the pope?
Dumb girl did not know what a pope is and she said she was catholic
I asked all women I met, Who is the pope? And just the two educated ladies I met knew the answer, all others di not know or said Benedict 16. So much for a Catholic country.
Dumb Belgium guy
I talked to a guy at the bar at the Tune Hotel
He told me how he was beaten up and had his throat slashed y 4 Phil guys *it was cut but not real bad* and was robbed of 20,000 Pesos at 2 AM near Del pilar and Manbini *There is a cop station there too* Huh? what the hell are you doing walking around with 20,000 peso in Ermita at 2 AM?
I looked up the word Dumb Ass and sure enough his photo was there
I think I bored you guys enough
LiveLifeGuy
05-12-14, 13:03
Hi fellas,
I am visiting Manila for the first time on 23rd of this Month. I have travelled to Thailand about 15 times now and know the place well but I would really appreciate some insider info on Manila. I have booked Best Western for. 5 nights in Ermita. Would appreciate some info on places to visit and avoid. Happy to shout a beer to a fellow member whilst I am there.
Cheers
LukeSkywalker
05-12-14, 17:19
These 2 guys Ickyman and A$$ Freddy have been needling me everyday in the Philippines and China threads, accusing me of lying about the casas in Manila, which I called "Fish Bowls" due to lack of definition.
These casas aim to service local Pinoys. They have nice, clean, fresh, good-looking girls with good attitudes, who are much better companies in and out of bed than hardened bar girls. I won't spend as much time hanging out in Manila bars, and definitely will never return to the meat market bars in Angeles City. It's more fun touring Manila with sweet young girls who don't dress, act and look like hardened prostitutes. But I did pick up a young girl in LA Cafe who was a college student and she was very horny and lots of fun. So the bros should try all different venues.
I gave instructions via PM to a few bros to find these casas. But of course I would never share this info with stupid, ugly, narrow-minded guys like Ickyman and A$$ Freddy, who would call other bros liars for things that they don't know or cannot comprehend.
My apologies for losing my cool with these 2 needling jerks, to other bros in this thread, who have been very kind, thoughtful and helpful.
Luke, You're in violation of the terms you agreed to when you joined the ISG board. If anyone wanted to be a "bastard" they would report you to administration. If you want to continue to participate at ISG, I recommend you chill out. For the record, I'm not a moderator. Far from it. LOL.
ISG Philippines does a pretty good job of self moderation. FreebieFan was a bit harsh with his message, but I think you should take that message, blow it up, print it out, and paste it on the wall next to your computer.
Cool Traveler
05-12-14, 21:11
LukeSkywalker
05-12-14, 23:12
Japanese are known for being stiff and formal in all relationships. They are always serious, not known for being jovial or having fun with friends. Hollywood further reinforces the image of stiff Japanese by showing in their various movies how deadly serious Japanese men, including the ugly and tattooed Yakuzas, are even when they are sitting in geisha houses drinking with their friends, and presumably boinking pretty girls on the premises.
But this was a humorous trip report by our Japanese bro Slicky. So he probably found us in kindred spirit.
Girls hanging out La Cafe are mostly old, ugly hags. Some had the BALLS to quote me outrageous prices for short time fucks. I got pretty disgusted with the old losers in LA Cafe.
Manila is very crowded and cramped. The Jeepneys are noisy and very smoky, belching smoke in your face as they cruise the streets. There are a lot of sketchy characters hanging out on the streets at all hours of the day and night. I never saw much police presence in Manila. None. I definitely felt threatened a few times walking alone, even in day time. Walking alone late at night in Manila is sure to invite criminals to rob you and slash your throat. This is very serious situation. You could have your throat slit, down lying in your own pool of blood until your die and noone will help you.
With the news of this Belgian guy getting his throat slashed, the bros should avoid walking at night, even with groups of friends. Just jump into taxis outside of hotels. Taxis are cheap in Manila. Better and cheaper than spending weeks in hospitals, paying big money to get your throats patched up, or worse, being shipped home to your wives and kids via Philippines Airlines in a plain pine box.
I recently come back fro a trip to Ermita. This was a budget trip and had very little time and thus concentrated on the Caf LA.
Dumb Belgium guy.
I talked to a guy at the bar at the Tune Hotel.
He told me how he was beaten up and had his throat slashed why 4 Phil guys *it was cut but not real bad* and was robbed of 20, 000 Pesos at 2 AM near Del pilar and Manbini *There is a cop station there too* Huh? What the hell are you doing walking around with 20, 000 peso in Ermita at 2 AM?
I looked up the word Dumb Ass and sure enough his photo was there.
I think I bored you guys enough
This thread has lots of reports regarding the locations for P4P in MM. But freebies have a part in the ISG forum too. There is little information though about meeting quality SYT freebies other than via PL, DIA etc. And who wants to be in front of a computer screen for hours and hours.
Anyway, here is one suggestion for freebie fans based on some of my experiences (I have lived in PI on a number of occasions: my first visit goes back to the days when bars used to have signs asking patrons to leave their guns at the front desk).
On my last sojourn there I had an apartment near St Luke's Hospital. I won't mention the name, as I was one of very few foreigners there at the time, but it was a Megaworld project (aren't they all?) , and near Burgos Circle.
This training hospital proved to be a great place to meet SYTs. Girls had paid big bucks to do their training, many had plans for working O / S, and were very happy to meet foreigners, some of whom might also contribute to their training fund!
Generally I sat in one of the hospital's coffee shops or cafes, or browse one of the other shops there. It was so easy to catch the eye of a friendly nurse walking past (before or after their shift). Or, I would walk near the hospital, say near S&R. Sometimes I did not even reach the hospital itself before being accosted. One even introduced herself to me outside the local HSBC.
In fact, overall, it was a very pleasant area to meet quality SYTs. Apart from the traffic on 32nd St (?) , there was little traffic, no noisy smoky taxis (just the quiet electric local ones) , no huge crowds, and many good eating places. I used to enjoy strolling the car-free Bonifacio High St and over to the hospital area with the likelihood of meeting a SYT. There was also an International school closer to Market! Market! That was quite productive.
I rarely felt the need to travel further afield! I remember in one 12 month period, apart from business meetings and business trips, I only went out to Glorietta, MegaMall and Greenhills a few times. But I would often travel outside MM to places like Tagaytay, Batangas, Bataan, Zambales etc, either with a SYT or on a mission! And no, I didn't stop off on the way at AC!
Trust this is of interest to the freebie fans on this thread.
Cheers
LiveLifeGuy
05-13-14, 14:29
Thank you for your advice. Being a first timer to any mongering destination is always exciting but a little bit scary as you know one would be hanging out with random chicks at weird times. Thanks for pointing out the safety side of things. Are the bars and clubs as safe as BKK? Are there many girls who would clean you up the first chance they get.
LukeSkywalker
05-13-14, 16:44
I PMed instructions, addresses and telephone numbers of a few casas in Manila to a few bros, who posted good info and were helpful to others. I hope they find those casas and bring back more info so I can have better times next time.
Looks like the casas cater primarily to local Pinoys. Casa girls hang out in the lounges with their friends, dress in casual clothes, wearing very little or no make ups. They look and act like pretty, nice, sweet, innocent girls next door, which are very appealing to me. They don't have the ugly, haughty attitudes and insulting manners of the old, hardened bar girls like in LA Cafe or those in Angeles City. Foreigners definitely spoiled the old, ugly bar girls.
I hope the bros will keep access to Manila casas limited so a few of us can enjoy the good companies of the true nice, sweet, gentle, pretty girls of the Phil. We don't want to turn all Manila girls into ugly, insulting biitches of LA Cafe.
Foreigners definitely spoiled the old, ugly bar girls.Absolutely right!
Luke,
I don't know how old you are, but I guess not old enough to have observed the enormous changes which occurred in Australian women with the introduction of the Feminist movement. I was a founding member of the Women's Liberation Movement in 1969, it was the precursor to the feminist movement. The manifesto was development and emancipation of women in Australia. I thought that was a good thing, so I joined up.
In about April 1970, when I was deep in the jungle in PNG, I got the regular monthly newsletter, and in it was a statement to the effect that they were no longer a pro-women movement, they had now become an anti-men movement. I resigned immediately. However, because of my original interest, I observed the feminist movement as it grew in Austrlaia. I read all of the books written by the major movers in the feminist movement, followed some of the other literature, and watched society change. Australian women are now hardened, basically viewing men as being second rate citizens.
Back in '69, Australian women were pretty much like filipina now. But they are not any more.
The feminist movement never got any purchase into Asia and Asian women. Which is mostly why we go there in such numbers, why caucasians marry them in such numbers.
It is common to see white men with Asian women. But it is rare to see Asian men with white women. Because white women are just so unattractive.
G
Ickyman really tries hard to prove his worth. But how would his 50 year-old info help anyone?
This old guy has nothing to be proud of his old life other than a few pieces of useless mongering info, in which he ravels in being able to dupe and take sexual advantage of poor, helpless Asian girls. This old jerk probably never had any chance with properly-bred women in Australia. He's a despicable abuser and loser.
That explains why he's so angry and jealous with other bros.
Radical Guy
05-13-14, 21:16
i stayed at the century park hotel for a few days during the past week, which is just a parking lot away from harrison plaza mall. if you go to the second floor of the mall, usually best in the afternoon, there are a multitude of hot girls available for pfp for very reasonable prices, but you must be cautious because many of the girls are clearly **** and will lie about their age.
however, i found a couple of really hot spinners who were 18-19 years of age, which i verified when they produced their postal identification card. they were clearly not professional pfp girls, but rather students looking for some extra pocket money. each of the girls took 1, 000 pesos for 2-3 hours, and we're great fun. i just picked them up and strolled back across the parking lot to my room at century park.
i should mention that you will likely be approached by a mamasan at the mall. one of the girls i procured was with her help. when the first couple of girls she showed me weren't suitable, she took me around to others hanging around the mall based on my criteria (one of which being a valid i'd). i didn't need to pay her anything up front, and in all cases paid the girls only after we were finished.
rg
Cool Traveler
05-13-14, 22:16
Back in '69, Australian women were pretty much like filipina now. But they are not any more.It is common to see white men with Asian women. But it is rare to see Asian men with white women. Because white women are just so unattractive.GHi G, I did not know Australia had an anti-man movement like the USA In the USA now you have to put up with all kinds of male bashing at work from the broads and all kinds of disgusting gay crap. I hate it. America is really going downhill. That's why I'm moving to PI.
Member #4387
05-13-14, 23:31
i stayed at the century park hotel for a few days during the past week, which is just a parking lot away from harrison plaza mall. if you go to the second floor of the mall, usually best in the afternoon, there are a multitude of hot girls available for pfp for very reasonable prices, but you must be cautious because many of the girls are clearly **** and will lie about their age.
however, i found a couple of really hot spinners who were 18-19 years of age, which i verified when they produced their postal identification card. they were clearly not professional pfp girls, but rather students looking for some extra pocket money. each of the girls took 1, 000 pesos for 2-3 hours, and we're great fun. i just picked them up and strolled back across the parking lot to my room at century park.
i should mention that you will likely be approached by a mamasan at the mall. one of the girls i procured was with her help. when the first couple of girls she showed me weren't suitable, she took me around to others hanging around the mall based on my criteria (one of which being a valid i'd). i didn't need to pay her anything up front, and in all cases paid the girls only after we were finished.
rgthere are mixed signals coming from others wether pickups are good or bad at mentioned mall but since you obviously did visit recently i trust you on this. i have from some hidden sources heard that harrison is once again blooming as well so i am planning to do some "shopping" next time i am in town.
some question though: multitude girls? how you spot them or are they not to be missed? i never been inside harrison but like other malls i presume 2fl is rather big, can you be more precise describing where (if not totaly obvious where the girls are holding out)? and what is the deal about mamasans. is it more like girls recognize i e me as someone looking for fun and they will take me to the girls whereabouts? do we tip the "mamasans"?
i think this would be a perfect afternoon excursion, travelling down to harrison, bringing a girl or two back to makati or even maby take a night "out" staying at the century. sorry for all the questions, just got curious. i have done some mall pickups from both robinson malate, glorietta 4 and 5 and, sm ayala (well atleast the one next to glorietta4). why not widen my horizon?
when first speaking about this subject; are there any designated pickup spots at moa?
Radical Guy
05-14-14, 00:18
there are mixed signals coming from others wether pickups are good or bad at mentioned mall but since you obviously did visit recently i trust you on this. i have from some hidden sources heard that harrison is once again blooming as well so i am planning to do some "shopping" next time i am in town.
some question though: multitude girls? how you spot them or are they not to be missed? i never been inside harrison but like other malls i presume 2fl is rather big, can you be more precise describing where (if not totaly obvious where the girls are holding out)? and what is the deal about mamasans. is it more like girls recognize i e me as someone looking for fun and they will take me to the girls whereabouts? do we tip the "mamasans"?
i think this would be a perfect afternoon excursion, travelling down to harrison, bringing a girl or two back to makati or even maby take a night "out" staying at the century. sorry for all the questions, just got curious. i have done some mall pickups from both robinson malate, glorietta 4 and 5 and, sm ayala (well atleast the one next to glorietta4). why not widen my horizon?
when first speaking about this subject; are there any designated pickup spots at moa?i really like century park because of the nice pool and hot whirlpool outside. i did try to find girls at robinson mall, but no luck. i know nothing about moa.
most of the p4p girls seem to be on the upper level in the eastern part, i think. in other words, if you walk from century park and enter at the entrance where there is a greenwich, you will go up the escalator and bear right, and there is an area that is not as crowded where you walk around, and girls are sitting on the floor leaning against the wall or railing. the girls will make that unmistakable eye contact and "come hither" look, which is how i picked my first girl. the girls who are not on the hunt will quickly look away if you smile at them, so the "look" is easy to spot.
the second time, when i went upstairs to the same area, and a fiftyish woman saw me walking around and asked if i was looking for girls. i said maybe, and told her that i like them young and slim. she showed me two real cuties, each of whom claimed to be 19, but i had my doubts due to their youthful look, and demanded i'd. those first two girls had no i'd, so i started walking, but mamasan said wait, and took me to see two more, who indeed had picture postal identification showing they were 19 and 18. i picked the 18 year old, and mamasan said 2000 pesos for 3 hours. i countered with 1000 pesos, and mamasan agreed, and she also agreed that i would pay the girl at my hotel when finished. i never paid mamasan anything, so she must have gotten her commission directly from the girl later.
when i went to harrison plaza, i would say there were probably 15 or 20 girls seeking p4p, maybe more, and the quality of the girls appeared generally better, overall, than the selection available at a place like la cafe, though you really need to be careful about the possible **** factor. of course, there were a few older skanks, but the majority were young and slim, but ymmv.
rg
FreebieFan
05-14-14, 01:42
Ickyman really tries hard to prove his worth. But how would his 50 year-old info help anyone?
This old guy has nothing to be proud of his old life other than a few pieces of useless mongering info, in which he ravels in being able to dupe and take sexual advantage of poor, helpless Asian girls. This old jerk probably never had any chance with properly-bred women in Australia. He's a despicable abuser and loser.
That explains why he's so angry and jealous with other bros.Whats with you dude. Your like a cat with a piece of string. Let it go.
I say again, breathe chill relax. So what if someone disagrees with you.
Get your petty little irritations away from our board.
And yes theres a hell of a lot of us who have been here a lot lot longer than you.
The more noise they make the more they crash and burn. Calipro, Daddy Warbucks, Pink Pearl and a whole host of other glad they begoners.
Let it rest, make normal posts and lets get back to business.
The ignore button is your friend, soon its going to be mine, with you in mind.
LukeSkywalker
05-14-14, 01:53
Hi Gangles.
Perhaps you overgeneralize a bit regarding women's attitudes in Australia and Asia? In think a lot of those women in the Women's Liberation movement are lesbians. They actually fuck up the men to woo young women for themselves.
What the hell were you doing in the jungle in Papa New Guinea? Screwing cannibal girls? I hang out with a few Australian guys in Asia and got to admit they were a bunch of easy-going, fun-loving guys. I really enjoyed their companies, except Ickyman who seems to be some sort of a mutant cross between a barking dog and a cockroach.
I started work in the early 90's and had to compete with women in professional and managerial jobs. Even in the very best and straight-laced companies in the US, women prove to be far more flexible and therefore more effective in their jobs than men in working their employees and their bosses. Despite very severe penalties for sexual harassment of employees in business, even professional and managerial women can always give away their pussies to their bosses to get a leg up on competition or o stay in their jobs.
US women are very tough competition against men in work, social status, love, happiness, everything in life. I do know if they love someone, they love that person to death. If they don't love you, they treat you like trash. It seems they are not neutral, but always biased in their attitudes.
Like all other countries, women with economic power, and therefore independence, will fight hard to have personal power in relationships. Girls in the Phil are docile and submissive because they are still financially dependent on the men to stay alive. If Phil girls have economic opportunities to be self-sufficient, you will see them showing their nasty attitudes. The old ugly working girls in LA Cafe already show their ugly attitudes.
I met a young, pretty British girl on the road. She was by far the prettiest, smartest, wittiest I ever found. She was very interested in me. We were a good match, had a lot of fun and happiness together. Don't ask me how I fucked that relationship up. I was stupid and am still grieving.
You showed some very Interesting view points. Will continue later. Cheers.
Luke,
I don't know how old you are, but I guess not old enough to have observed the enormous changes which occurred in Australian women with the introduction of the Feminist movement. I was a founding member of the Women's Liberation Movement in 1969, it was the precursor to the feminist movement. The manifesto was development and emancipation of women in Australia. I thought that was a good thing, so I joined up.
In about April 1970, when I was deep in the jungle in PNG, I got the regular monthly newsletter, and in it was a statement to the effect that they were no longer a pro-women movement, they had now become an anti-men movement. I resigned immediately. However, because of my original interest, I observed the feminist movement as it grew in Austrlaia. I read all of the books written by the major movers in the feminist movement, followed some of the other literature, and watched society change. Australian women are now hardened, basically viewing men as being second rate citizens.
Back in '69, Australian women were pretty much like filipina now. But they are not any more.
The feminist movement never got any purchase into Asia and Asian women. Which is mostly why we go there in such numbers, why caucasians marry them in such numbers.
It is common to see white men with Asian women. But it is rare to see Asian men with white women. Because white women are just so unattractive.
G
If guys are planning to move to the Philippines primarily because the attitude of women is perceived as "bad" in their home country then they are making a mistake.
There are so many other factors to consider.
We all know that it is better to change a career because another one is much more attractive and challenging. It is not always a good idea to leave a job (or a country) just because of negative perceptions unless you do due diligence on the frying pan into which you are jumping..
I left a very comfortable position with a guaranteed career progression in my country to work in the Philippines because (among many other reasons) , it offered lots of exciting new challenges in my line of work and my remuneration would be better, with greater sense of achievement. At no stage did the availability of attractive women come into the equation. I don't regret the decision to come to the Philippines because my work is 80% of my life and I enjoy what i do.
However, for those guys considering retiring here because of feminism in their home country and because of the availability of filipinas I would advise having a very good think about it and look ahead at least 10 or 20 years when you may not be as healthy or virile as you are now.
The infrastructure in the Philippines is seriously eroding, and this summer has shown it very clearly. There are zero signs that it will stop eroding further because as the story of the PDAF scam emerges (the whole truth will probably never be known) , there will be a long period (maybe a decade) of total instability and paralysis which will mean very little money will be spent on services (like power, phones, internet, roads, bridges etc).
Once you are retired you need much much more than just pretty women to look at or seduce in shopping malls or online. There are 24 hours in every day. Living outside of a major city will NOT solve the problem (if anything it will be worse, because infrastructure will be failing).
Of course, if you are hoping to live here in the hills with no modern conveniences, living in a nipa hut with no TV and growing your own meat and vegetables with a willing nubile young woman or two in loin cloths to wait on you hand and foot and non-stop sex all day then this will be paradise. The beer may not be cold though.
if you are hoping to live here in the hills with no modern conveniences, living in a nipa hut with no TV and growing your own meat and vegetables with a willing nubile young woman or two in loin cloths to wait on you hand and foot and non-stop sex all day then this will be paradise. The beer may not be cold though.Great perception and sensible advice Red Kilt. The infrastructure in the Philippines is eroding (power, water, communications, and a constipated legal system that flushes out none of the waste and dregs). Politicians are great on rhetoric and self aggrandisement but short on achievement. If you are staying here in the Phils other than a visit then you either need a good challenging job or a retirement activity that keeps you sane and stimulated. And a saturation of pussy, beer, cigarettes is hardly that answer. But for some it is a nice and relatively quick pathway to exit this world.
FreebieFan
05-14-14, 09:09
Great perception and sensible advice Red Kilt. The infrastructure in the Philippines is eroding (power, water, communications, and a constipated legal system that flushes out none of the waste and dregs). Politicians are great on rhetoric and self aggrandisement but short on achievement. If you are staying here in the Phils other than a visit then you either need a good challenging job or a retirement activity that keeps you sane and stimulated. And a saturation of pussy, beer, cigarettes is hardly that answer. But for some it is a nice and relatively quick pathway to exit this world.Totally agree with you. I'm for myself assuming 6 months in Manila / Philippines and 6 months per year in various other countries where things work / work differently.
Balance is all important and so is ensuring that you don't go crazy.
I think for a prolonged stay, NOT reading the local papers would be a good habit # 1, so one wouldn't have to read / listen to self aggrandisement (aggrandizement for the Americans) that does happen, as well the wonderful allegations of " black propaganda" (does propaganda have a variety of colours?
I think having some "smart" friends would be important whether its other guys or smart girls but too many of the " have you had your lunch" friends would drive you stir crazy.
Anyone retiring there should have a disciplined plan as to how to survive... This includes devoting disciplined parts of each / day week to some activities and not wallowing in pussy and beer every day.
FreebieFan
05-14-14, 09:18
Great perception and sensible advice Red Kilt. The infrastructure in the Philippines is eroding (power, water, communications, and a constipated legal system that flushes out none of the waste and dregs). Politicians are great on rhetoric and self aggrandisement but short on achievement. If you are staying here in the Phils other than a visit then you either need a good challenging job or a retirement activity that keeps you sane and stimulated. And a saturation of pussy, beer, cigarettes is hardly that answer. But for some it is a nice and relatively quick pathway to exit this world.Totally agree with you. I'm for myself assuming 6 months in Manila / Philippines and 6 months per year in various other countries where things work / work differently.
Balance is all important and so is ensuring that you don't go crazy.
I think for a prolonged stay, NOT reading the local papers would be a good habit # 1, so one wouldn't have to read / listen to self aggrandisement (aggrandizement for the Americans) that does happen, as well the wonderful allegations of " black propaganda" (does propaganda have a variety of colours?
I think having some "smart" friends would be important whether its other guys or smart girls but too many of the " have you had your lunch" friends would drive you stir crazy.
Anyone retiring there should have a disciplined plan as to how to survive... This includes devoting disciplined parts of each / day week to some activities and not wallowing in pussy and beer every day.
After being subject to repeated crude personal attacks for mythical 'daily needling' (must be invisible posts!), I have decided to put my longheld philosophical pacificism on hold for a few minutes.
1. ISGers could not care less about, and do not want to read, posts where a person is attacking another (in fact they wish the person would just STFU).
2. Serial antagonists lose all credibility in the eyes of other ISGers.
3. Pissing matches can impact the number of genuine on-topic posts to the board!
POV post ended; never to be raised again by me (points should be obvious to all, but unfortunately apparently not).
Cheers.
P.S. Sorry, I only have 50 year old photos of Filipinas, so here is a recent Chinese SYT of mine to compensate for having to read this rant.
P.P.S. For readers who are not familiar with Manila, the whole of Bonifacio GC (see my last post) is a new development not far from Makati (photo was taken from my apartment). At least one other ISGer also has apartment here.
The Irish do not need cold beer. And a couple nubile waiting on me hand and foot. See'Mon. That is heaven.
Totally agree with you. I'm for myself assuming 6 months in Manila / Philippines and 6 months per year in various other countries where things work / work differently.
Balance is all important and so is ensuring that you don't go crazy.
I think for a prolonged stay, NOT reading the local papers would be a good habit # 1, so one wouldn't have to read / listen to self aggrandisement (aggrandizement for the Americans) that does happen, as well the wonderful allegations of " black propaganda" (does propaganda have a variety of colours?
I think having some "smart" friends would be important whether its other guys or smart girls but too many of the " have you had your lunch" friends would drive you stir crazy.
Anyone retiring there should have a disciplined plan as to how to survive... This includes devoting disciplined parts of each / day week to some activities and not wallowing in pussy and beer every day.I seriously considered settling in Manila, with intermittent trips / contracts overseas (but I chose another place).
The reasons for deciding against MM did not include concern about brain numbing conversations with 'have you had your lunch' girls. I met girls that were interesting to talk to (and Freebie, you probably also met some girls able to hold a reasonable conversation from an institution, where we have both had success).
Instead, the main reason that counted against Manila was the gaggle of relatives of my ex-wife. The parents were well-off (ran a large sand carrying company), but with one exception, all (there were 11 children) were spoiled no-hopers. Every time I went to MM, they would somehow find out and they, and their children, would be constantly texting me wanting hand-outs or 'loans'. I actually loaned one of them the money for a new motor-bike (he was a trike driver). Did the bike get bought, or the money repaid; of course not.
If you do decide to settle in PI, then you need to be prepared to be bombarded with pleas from, not just the girl (s) of the moment, but a whole assortment of family members, cousins, nieces, and various other hangers-on, of all the girls with whom you have ever had more than a one-night stand. I am not being overly critical of these people (they are only trying to survive), but it becomes very tedious and annoying! And you cannot escape them, because they know where you live!
My two centavos worth.
Cheers.
Keen Eye Joe
05-17-14, 17:38
I was in Manila last week. Took the LRT from the United Nations Station to the Carriedo Station at around 11 am. For anyone who has not partooked in the local SWs, they tend to congregate in two areas. On the east side of Rizal they are in close proximity to the Astrotel Hotel (use Google Maps and type in "Astrotel, Rizal Avenue, Manila" for the location). The other area is on the west side of Rizal between the Puregold Store and Sogo Hotel. For those of you who desire stunners, go somewhere else. It's rare I see anyone who I would rate above a 5 or 6, and I tend to grade on a curve, LOL. But for 500 pesos a whack, you can't be too picky.
Anyway, I exited the LRT and headed down the steps and then turned left and headed north along the east side of Rizal Avenue. I passed a couple of SWs hanging out at the Astrotel, but they weren't my cup of tea. By the way, there is a mobile sign in front of the hotel entrance and the girls tend to stand behind the sign, as to shield themselves from the piercing eyes of the locals.
North of the Astrotel there were about 6 SWs milling around in various spots, but one caught my eye. Tall for a Pinay, maybe 5' 4", and somewhat big boned. She was not what I would call "fat", but she had a larger body structure than the average filipina. Had a pretty face but I would not call her cute or gorgeous. Just an average Pinay, but she was dressed well and wore some cute moderately-high wedgie sandal heels. She had freshly washed hair and wore nice make up, and had a pretty smile. My spider sense started tingling and I smiled and said Hello,.
Her name was Grace, age 26 with two kids. I negotiated a 500 peso date, with an uncovered BJ and covered FS. I always discuss terms with the SWers so there's no confusion when we get to the room. It's amazing how many Carriedo SWs don't provide BJs, I guess their Pinoy customers don't require them, LOL.
We walk hand in hand across Rizal to the Sogo hotel, and we head to the 6th floor where I pay the 130 pesos fee for 1 hour. We head into the hotel room and asked her if she wanted me or her to shower first. To my surprise she said, "I will shower with you". So we stripped down, put on our Sogo slippers and headed to the shower. She soaped and rinsed me sufficiently, then unexpectedly kneeled down and started blowing me. Patiently sucking my shaft and licking my balls, ooooolala! Ahhhh, the feeling of warm water cascading over us while she did the deed was heavenly, and it took all my anti-concentration powers to keep from busting my nut.
After a couple of minutes I motioned her to stop. We then toweled each other dry, and headed to the bed. I pulled out a condom and we laid down and pulled the sheet over us because the air con was working way too well. I laid on my side and stuck out my arm and motioned I wanted her to lay right next to me. We made some small talk, then started kissing. Not just kissing, but deep throat-tongue swirling kissing like two 18 year old kids. We spend about 5 minutes smacking away, then I started licking her neck and nipples, which made her moan in what I believe to be a response to genuine pleasure.
I then motioned I wanted her to resume sucking on my little buddy. She immediately resumed her enthusiastic blow job. My gosh, is there anything more beautiful in the world than watching the face of a woman who enjoys sucking cock? Then for the finale', I unwrapped my USA Made ultrathin condom and had her guide it in. The sensation of being inside of her felt so good, it fit like a glove! I remember thinking that I'd never had a pussy that felt this perfect. In fact, I had to pull out of her a few times to keep from cumming too quickly.
After a few minutes I was ready to blow, so I started giving her some hard pounding. Then she did something that no other woman has ever done with me. After continuously and vigorously thrusting her pelvis into mine, she let out a loud moan and sighed "I'm finished". Of course I wasn't done yet, so after a brief pause, I resumed vigorously pounding her and after about 30 seconds I blew my wad into the latex. She then moaned again, so I guess she wasn't totally finished after all, haha.
After cleaning ourselves up, we laid on the bed and made some small talk. She commutes from Caloocan City to Carriedo each day, which is a 1 hour commute each way. A long way to come to earn 500 pesos per event, but she says she averages 1 to 3 customers per day, which gives her enough to pay the bills. She says she arrives around 9 am and goes home around 4 pm.
3 months prior she had returned from a 2 year stint in Dubai and was finding it hard to make ends meet here in the Phils while raising two kids. Sometimes we forget these women are "human beings" and are doing this kind of work to survive in this world.
Also, it turns out I was the first foreign man she had ever been with. I told her I was skeptical, and she said "no, I swear it is true". I then told me I was such a handsome man (yeah right, but I trust her judgment) and she was very attracted to this 55 year old guy. What an ego boost, haha.
We departed the Sogo and went to a nearby store so I could buy some refreshments. Bottled water for me and pineapple juice for her. Total cost was 650 pesos (500 for her, 130 for the room, and 20 pesos for her drink). She didn't ask for a tip and I didn't offer, I don't like spoiling the market.
I like Carriedo for a number of reasons. First, it's easy to get to as long as you don't have a phobia about riding on the LRT / MRT system. Second, it's a safe place to go during the day. It's a crowded area with lots of vendors and shoppers. I haven't even encountered any beggars. Just make sure your money is zipped up and not accessible to pickpocketers. Also, leave your credit cards and extra money in your hotel safe. Don't bring anything that you can't afford to lose.
Third, the price is right. Some women there will quote you 1000 pesos, but will drop it down to 500 if you start walking away. Make sure to stand your ground!
Fourth, it's rare to see another white person in that area of town. I've had 8 women total there in a past couple of years and most of them have said I'm their first foreign customer. Consequently, I've gotten reasonably good service from each one. Not every one has given GFE like this girl, but they have been nice, pleasant, clean, fun to be with, and have provided good service. Just make sure to negotiate the details before heading to the hotel.
I've mongered in all corners of the world. At times I pay a lot of money for companionship and other times I pay a pittance. We all know there's a definite relationship between price and expectation of service. But there's certainly no correlation between price and the quality of the outcome. It kills me to pay $150-200 US for bad service in Hong Kong or Singapore. But if I were to pay $10 for bad service in Carriedo, I can easily just write it off and go find another one.
Ok I'm done pontificating now...go forth and multiply!
I seriously considered settling in Manila...
If you do decide to settle in PI, then you need to be prepared to be bombarded with pleas from, not just the girl (s) of the moment, but a whole assortment of family members, cousins, nieces, and various other hangers-on, of all the girls with whom you have ever had more than a one-night stand...I admit, that Madagascar is the only 'poor country' I got to know better.
But my understanding of 'social systems' in such a country is, that you never just date a young lady in a LTR, but you get connected with the needs of the whole family clan. If this family gets to know you in person, it's getting you into even more financial troubles.
Another question. Why did you give money to a spoiled kid, hoping this kid would earn money and will pay back your 'loan' - I did the same in Madagascar long time ago for buying a Citroen 2 CV as a taxi plus the license and was naive in believing that a 'loan' is a 'loan'. Strangely enough, the car was stolen soon and they asked me for another 'loan'. Of course I declined, cut any contacts with this family and wrote off the money as an expensive learning experience.
I admit, that Madagascar is the only 'poor country' I got to know better.
But my understanding of 'social systems' in such a country is, that you never just date a young lady in a LTR, but you get connected with the needs of the whole family clan. If this family gets to know you in person, it's getting you into even more financial troubles.
Another question. Why did you give money to a spoiled kid, hoping this kid would earn money and will pay back your 'loan' - I did the same in Madagascar long time ago for buying a Citroen 2 CV as a taxi plus the license and was naive in believing that a 'loan' is a 'loan'. Strangely enough, the car was stolen soon and they asked me for another 'loan'. Of course I declined, cut any contacts with this family and wrote off the money as an expensive learning experience.Hi Ganesha,
I agree that in many countries (not just developing countries) there are 'social systems', where families are close-knit, and include extended families, and where filial responsibilities are taken seriously. In these places, the sharing of wealth is expected, and common.
But in PI, the asking and giving occurs not just between family, but between friends and acquaintances. I think it is a cultural thing, like the way Filipina share food with each other. I knew a DH in Hong Kong who had no idea of how much money she had loaned, or borrowed, from many of her friends there. It was just something that happened all the time.
If I have known a SYT for one week, I am surely not part of an extended family at that point of time. Sometimes they start asking for money within minutes of meeting! One hears some truly inventive stories. I am sure that other ISGers here could relate many hilarious episodes.
The spoiled trike driver 'kid' was 43 yo with a wife and 3 children, none of whom worked (even though one, a bakla, was a university graduate). As my wife's eldest brother, with a serious heart condition, I sincerely wanted to help him as his trike was truly stuffed. And, although I suspected that I might never see the money again, I did not expect him to just repair his old motor bike and give the rest of the money to his wife and kids.
I have helped a number of Filipina with 'loans' as I believe that the girls are more than just 'fresh meat' as some people seem to believe. I have put a girl through university (she was a relative), set up a girl's online shopping site, helped another girl obtain a nursing job in Hong Kong, and provided the government bond for a girl to migrate to Australia (she was a doctor).
If I had unlimited funds, I would certainly help many more deserving cases there. But, if I lived there, the scale of requests from ex-family and ex-gfs would be truly tedious!
Cheers,
Ikksman.
Warning: I am one of a bunch of sinister and heavily armed globalist illuminati who seek to infect the entire world with the values of personal liberty and several property. Amongst our many crimes is a sense of humour and the intermittent use of British spelling.
Econo Tech
05-18-14, 06:09
If I had unlimited funds, I would certainly help many more deserving cases there.How do you think the likes of Marcos, Estrada, GMA, Binays, Enrile etc, despite repeated allegations of corruption, robbery etc stay in power?
Simply by loaning money for weddings, funerals, graduations (boy, Filipinos have graduations for each and every reason, even for completing 3 month diploma, gown compulsory).
The more money you lon (with no return.) the most liked and generous you are said to be.
Stop loaning and you are painted as stingy, rich but not sharing.
I gave up trying to strike logic with the types like above, and stick with those who don't follow the Filipino thinking that its OK to ask money from even little bit rich folks, OK even bit richer looking folk.
And add to it, that their culture accept it, including forgiving robbers as they maybe robbing due to family emergency etc. As a Filipino friend described. When her jeepney was robbed the robbers had apologized and the victims felt sympathy to the culprits.
Recently a girl I never met in person asked me for money, for her to go to Dubai. And promised she will return if she gets a job.
I told her that I am between contracts, I.e. No job, I.e. No pay, and she went "that's why I am asking only 20,000. Well seems you don't want me to get a better job and prosper. "
Explain that logic, if you may.
Another silly story. Recently in Singapore a group of Filipinos were caught in a credit card fraud, I.e, mis- declaration of salary to obtain credit card when based on their real pays they weren't eligible, and most did a runner with massive card debts.
Almost all Filipinos asked forgiveness as they strongly believed the abuse must have been to borrow money for family emergencies. And the Singaporeans were amazed that the Filipino community doesn't care about law breaking but are emotional when it comes to defending the 'lesser fortunate' (less fortunate in their eyes. Only.).
Mongering veteran, but first time ISG member. Ill be visiting Manila in a few weeks. Did some research on this forum and found few of the mongering areas: Makati & Ermita. I was wondering if anyone else can suggest any other areas for first time visitors on a budget.
Thanks
Guy Wif Attitude
05-18-14, 23:45
Hi all,
Quick question, is it possible to buy viagra over the counter in Manila without a prescription, eg at Mercury drugstore?
Thanks
{S N I P} I gave up trying to strike logic with the types like above, and stick with those who don't follow the Filipino thinking that its OK to ask money from even little bit rich folks, OK even bit richer looking folk.
And add to it, that their culture accept it, including forgiving robbers as they maybe robbing due to family emergency etc. As a Filipino friend described. When her jeepney was robbed the robbers had apologized and the victims felt sympathy to the culprits.
{S N I P} I can't explain the logic! Probably impossible for us to fully understand.
My Filipina ex-wife never used to complain about being taken advantage of, even when one relative stole expensive sheets and towels from the apartment over a period of some weeks.
Apart from the relative to whom I 'loaned' money for the bike, all my 'investments' were carefully screened, and a few paid big dividends in other ways! Anyway, I am glad that I was able to help some girls, girls who I felt were more responsible than your typical Filipina.
I have a good sixth sense and intuition, and only once have I stupidly believed a story that was so incredible, I felt she could not be making it up! But they don't give up. One girl has continued to send me YM messages every few months for the past 5 years!
If the girls put as much effort and creativity into getting work and a career of some sort, as they put into their stories, then their poverty would be significantly reduced. On the other hand, maybe the story business is a highly lucrative career for some of the girls!
And I will certainly continue to help deserving people when I can. And not necessarily sexy young Pinay. Some years ago I paid boarding and tuition fees in Australia for the son of a Christian Balinese family I met and stayed with in Bali (there are a few Christian villages in the Western part of the island, although they are persecuted by the Hindu majority).
What is the old saying about Westerners in developing countries? There are mercenaries, missionaries, misfits and mongerers! I am not sure which category I belong to! Maybe all!
Cheers.
The more money you loan (with no return.) the most liked and generous you are said to be...And add to it, that their culture accept it, Unnerving. What's a regular guy to do if he wants to live peaceably in the PI?
FreebieFan
05-19-14, 02:37
Unnerving. What's a regular guy to do if he wants to live peaceably in the PI?Keep moving around, keep changing numbers, and only give new numbers to the ones you want to keep.
And develop a heart harder than titanium for the multitude of sob stories that will come your way.
And develop some great replies... Ie.
"I would love to help you but my bank account was hacked so no spare cash".
" My wallet was snatched and so all my spare cash gone".
" My money is locked up in a court case with ex wife, will be happy to help you when its settled.
" I gave a girl a loan of P20,000 and she never paid it back so now I'm very wary".
" No I won't loan you anything till I have a 3 some with you and your younger cousin".
Member #4698
05-19-14, 03:27
" No I won't loan you anything till I have a 3 some with you and your younger cousin".That's fumy. I like this one a lot.
Keep moving around, keep changing numbers, and only give new numbers to the ones you want to keep. And develop a heart harder than titanium for the multitude of sob stories that will come your way. And develop some great replies... Geez it might be easier to specify only orphan girls with jobs and no kids in my DIA profile! Holy crap!
FreebieFan
05-19-14, 07:06
Geez it might be easier to specify only orphan girls with jobs and no kids in my DIA profile! Holy crap!You can write what you like in your profile. No one will read it... I clearly state an age requirement of less than 40, weight requirement of about 100 pounds and location in Manila only.
Invariably, its Hi I'm Veronica from Zamboanga and I'm 52 and I'm chubby, can I be your friend.
You can write what you like in your profile. No one will read it... I clearly state an age requirement of less than 40, weight requirement of about 100 pounds and location in Manila only.
Invariably, its Hi I'm Veronica from Zamboanga and I'm 52 and I'm chubby, can I be your friend.But Zamboanga is such a lovely and friendly tourist destination!
Mongering veteran, but first time ISG member. Ill be visiting Manila in a few weeks. Did some research on this forum and found few of the mongering areas: Makati & Ermita. I was wondering if anyone else can suggest any other areas for first time visitors on a budget.
ThanksLike many Asian countries, there tends to be a few main areas where foreigners are specifically catered. You have identified the main MM areas (and add Malate which is an older, more dangerous district adjoining Ermita).
For locals there are generally many other options, and where local prices are paid, not the inflated foreigner price.
As you are a veteran mongerer, and therefore adventurous, ask a taxi driver for other places (and tell us your tales)!
Cheers.
You can write what you like in your profile. No one will read it... I clearly state an age requirement of less than 40, weight requirement of about 100 pounds and location in Manila only. Invariably, its Hi I'm Veronica from Zamboanga and I'm 52 and I'm chubby, can I be your friend.Sadly you are mostly correct, FF, but some girls actually STUDY it like they are taking an exam or something.
Like many Asian countries, there tends to be a few main areas where foreigners are specifically catered. You have identified the main MM areas (and add Malate which is an older, more dangerous district adjoining Ermita).
For locals there are generally many other options, and where local prices are paid, not the inflated foreigner price.
As you are a veteran mongerer, and therefore adventurous, ask a taxi driver for other places (and tell us your tales)!
Cheers.You have it bass ackwards, particularly in advising a newbie. Ermita is the dumpy and more dangerous area. There are actually many more "upscale" places in Malate than Ermita. I lived in both places.
You have it bass ackwards, particularly in advising a newbie. Ermita is the dumpy and more dangerous area. There are actually many more "upscale" places in Malate than Ermita. I lived in both places.I stand corrected! Thanks.
Cheers.
You have it bass ackwards, particularly in advising a newbie. Ermita is the dumpy and more dangerous area. There are actually many more "upscale" places in Malate than Ermita. I lived in both places.As I have posted before; the boundary between Ermita and Malate is Pedro Gil.
So Eurotel is in Malate; Robinsons is in Ermita.
You are splitting hairs when you discuss the relative difference between these places, especially when you are talking about a block or two either side of Pedro Gil.
They are both in the City of Manila, and both are relative slums. Slippery is correct in that as you go further south towards Pasay the environment "improves", but not dramatically.
Econo Tech
05-20-14, 05:43
Invariably, its Hi I'm Veronica from Zamboanga and I'm 52 and I'm chubby, can I be your friend.Chubby? Most girls now say they are Thick. No comments.
BTW did an ad in CL, and 9 out of 10 response was from LBs, though some said they are LB, most didn't. Though by attaching a picture the mystery was solved.
AdefinitelyI have posted before; the boundary between Ermita and Malateis is Pedro Gil.
So Eurotel is in Malate; Robinsons is in Ermita.
You are splitting hairs when you discuss the relative difference between these places, especially when you are talking about a block or two either side of Pedro Gil.
They are both in the City of Manila, and both are relative slums. Slippery is correct in that as you go further south towards Pasay the environment "improves", but not dramatically.Thanks for the advice. I definitely want to have fun, but be safe at the same time. So, Malate is "safe", if one had to choose. I would really appreciate some reccomendations for a bar / establishement that is "safe", decent (ladies), and cheap for someone on a budget. I promise to report on my experiences once I return from my trip.
Thank you
Like the inner areas of many big cities, the atmosphere changes from block to block. And you can find a wide range of attractions within. Many of the hotels recommended here are on the Malate side of Pedro Gil.
As I have posted before; the boundary between Ermita and Malate is Pedro Gil.
So Eurotel is in Malate; Robinsons is in Ermita.
You are splitting hairs when you discuss the relative difference between these places, especially when you are talking about a block or two either side of Pedro Gil.
They are both in the City of Manila, and both are relative slums. Slippery is correct in that as you go further south towards Pasay the environment "improves", but not dramatically.
Keen Eye Joe,
Thanks for the report of the SW scene in Manila.
I had never known of that area before.
Keen Eye Joe,
Thanks for the report of the SW scene in Manila.
I had never known of that area before.Agreed. Good report!
There are pockets of SWs in many of the older areas of Manila. For the adventurous, I have many times seen SWs / FLs in and around the Divisoria markets, in Chinatown and in more than one area of Sta Cruz. I have never partaken.
Cheers.
Econo Tech
05-21-14, 00:38
Thanks for the advice. I definitely want to have fun, but be safe at the same time. So, Malate is "safe", if one had to choose. I would really appreciate some reccomendations for a bar / establishement that is "safe", decent (ladies), and cheap for someone on a budget. I promise to report on my experiences once I return from my trip.
Thank youIn my sincere opinion, neither Malate no Ermita is "safe" Vs, Makati?
BrasilSoccer0
05-21-14, 07:33
rg,
great really great report. and i commend you on keeping the prices relative to local economic parameters. even though i was shocked at the deal you got with that nursing student from "craig's list" 2000 for two nights with full gfe. you are in control and i'm willing to bet you yourself are a great guy with these girls so much so that they feel happy spending days with you.
but i'm only interested in the "mamasan" thing in the mall. from how you described the scene in the "harrison plaza" mall the girls seem to be freelancers. why is there a mamasan in the first place. i've never been in the philipines but have picked up ladies from malls and no mamasan. what if you ignore the mamasan? would the girl still go with you?
the way i see it you as a customer don't need her services in an open mall. and unless she is sheltering these girls, they have no use for her neither.
please explain more on the mamasan thing.
thanks.
p.s. you got me fired up about the philipines.
i stayed at the century park hotel for a few days during the past week, which is just a parking lot away from harrison plaza mall. if you go to the second floor of the mall, usually best in the afternoon, there are a multitude of hot girls available for pfp for very reasonable prices, but you must be cautious because many of the girls are clearly **** and will lie about their age.
however, i found a couple of really hot spinners who were 18-19 years of age, which i verified when they produced their postal identification card. they were clearly not professional pfp girls, but rather students looking for some extra pocket money. each of the girls took 1, 000 pesos for 2-3 hours, and we're great fun. i just picked them up and strolled back across the parking lot to my room at century park.
i should mention that you will likely be approached by a mamasan at the mall. one of the girls i procured was with her help. when the first couple of girls she showed me weren't suitable, she took me around to others hanging around the mall based on my criteria (one of which being a valid i'd). i didn't need to pay her anything up front, and in all cases paid the girls only after we were finished.
rg
Well after 4 trips to the PI I am finaly doing Manila, specifically Makati. The St Giles is turning out to be a great location for Makati action and the staff here is always happy and friendly. I like Burgos street, it reminds me of BBK in some ways, it's pretty easy for a new kid in town. I have a few days already under my belt and the talent here in the bars is quite nice, pricey but very nice all the same. Bottoms has a day time bf of 2100 p so you can sample the talent there for a dobale price.
I also spent a few days in AC and everything is much cheaper there but at the same time there are very few lookers there. The few good lookers in AC are either K only or drink sluts so I don't miss AC. For me AC has gone down hill in talent and might be my last effort there. I did enjoy one Atlantic dancer for a few days hanging at the Pacific Breeze pool all afternoon. The heat in May is quite strong so poolside was one of my better ideas, a lot of fun too w / my little gf.
So now I'm going to jump in the shower and then head for Bottoms where yesterday I saw a some candy I want to taste.
From the other day.
Radical Guy
05-21-14, 12:47
RG,
Great really great report. And I commend you on keeping the prices relative to local economic parameters. Even though I was shocked at the deal you got with that nursing student from "Craig's list" 2000 for two nights with full GFE. You are in control and I'm willing to bet you yourself are a great guy with these girls so much so that they feel happy spending days with you.
But I'm only interested in the "Mamasan" thing in the mall. From how you described the scene in the "Harrison Plaza" mall the girls seem to be freelancers. Why is there a Mamasan in the first place. I've never been in the Philipines but have picked up ladies from malls and no Mamasan. What if you ignore the Mamasan? Would the girl still go with you?
The way I see it you as a customer don't need her services in an open mall. And unless she is sheltering these girls, they have no use for her neither.
Please explain more on the Mamasan thing.
Thanks.
P.S. You got me fired up about the Philipines.Well, honestly, I saw the mamasan as performing a service. There are numerous girls hanging out in the mall that one would never think were available for P4 P. They just look like regular students or shoppers. Some girls are more bold, and will give you the eye, and those are easy to spot. But the mamasan will often approach a foreigner and ask, "What girl are you looking for?" Then, she will take you around the mall to various hot girls who would have been too shy to make contact on their own, but the mamasan assists with the negotiation. The lady must have shown me 5-6 girls until I found one I liked, and negotiated a price. And, surprisingly, the mamasan got nothing from me, but obviously collected her "cut" later from the girl.
BrasilSoccer0
05-21-14, 15:51
Got it now.
I actually went on YouTube to find videos about "Harison plaza" hotel to catch a glims of these girls. Just to see what it looks like but I couldn't find such videos. I'll keep looking. I am inspired by the prices you've quoted and the availability of eager youthful ladies. I think I'll put Manila back in the hat again for now.
Thank you.
Well, honestly, I saw the mamasan as performing a service. There are numerous girls hanging out in the mall that one would never think were available for P4 P. They just look like regular students or shoppers. Some girls are more bold, and will give you the eye, and those are easy to spot. But the mamasan will often approach a foreigner and ask, "What girl are you looking for?" Then, she will take you around the mall to various hot girls who would have been too shy to make contact on their own, but the mamasan assists with the negotiation. The lady must have shown me 5-6 girls until I found one I liked, and negotiated a price. And, surprisingly, the mamasan got nothing from me, but obviously collected her "cut" later from the girl.
Pip Jaeger
05-21-14, 20:32
RG,
But I'm only interested in the "Mamasan" thing in the mall. From how you described the scene in the "Harrison Plaza" mall the girls seem to be freelancers. Why is there a Mamasan in the first place. I've never been in the Philipines but have picked up ladies from malls and no Mamasan. What if you ignore the Mamasan? Would the girl still go with you?
The way I see it you as a customer don't need her services in an open mall. And unless she is sheltering these girls, they have no use for her neither.
Please explain more on the Mamasan thing.
Thanks.
P.S. You got me fired up about the Philipines.Generally speaking if the girl came there with mamasan then they will have to kick back a portion of your donation to her (usually 200-300 p, but could be half), even if you meet her in the mall by yourself. Most mama's keep a tight leash on their girls and would know if one disappeared even for a ST encounter. OTH, if you want to repeat with the girl then you can many times meet her without mama's knowledge and she would get to keep all of your donation. If I get via a mama I always ask the girl what her cut is and usually tip accordingly (of course if the service good too), but that's me. It's not like an extra 200 p is going to break the bank or upset the status quo. And I also ask about friends too, many will show you pics of them on their phone or FB page.
Good report RG, thanks, I may have to add HP to the list for my next trip.
Econo Tech
05-22-14, 06:36
It's not like an extra 200 p is going to break the bank or upset the status quo. And I also ask about friends too, many will show you pics of them on their phone or FB page..I agree.
Of late, when I am squeezed for time, just call a mid 20's girl who can source for me girls and she doesn't take a commission from me.
I always palm her 500 for 'taxi'. As the mama eliminates the hunt for me when I am starved for time.
Asian Rain
05-22-14, 15:16
Of late, when I am squeezed for time, just call a mid 20's girl who can source for me girls and she doesn't take a commission from me.
I always palm her 500 for 'taxi'. As the mama eliminates the hunt for me when I am starved for time.I use this modus operandi now for almost all my mongering. I have a few pimpettes who know exactly the specification I want and eliminate all the hassle of sourcing, negotiating and hooking-up with the girls. Most of the time they give me the facebook of their girls, so it allows me to check out the merchandise before I bring it to the counter. Of course I don't hold a pimpette responsible for the performance of the girl. The spectrum can range from the fabled PSE / GFE combo to a total starfish. That aspect I chalk-up to mongering life.
Using pimpettes is a huge time and hassle-saver. I have found that just about any girl is capable of providing the service (as every Filipina has friends, relatives, neighbors, etc)., but only a very few can provide the service reliably over a long period. Similar to Econo Tech, I also pay a flat p500 to the pimpette for arranging the hook-up. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.
Econo Tech
05-22-14, 16:03
Using pimpettes is a huge time and hassle-saver. I have found that just about any girl is capable of providing the service (as every Filipina has friends, relatives, neighbors, etc)., but only a very few can provide the service reliably over a long period. Similar to Econo Tech, I also pay a flat p500 to the pimpette for arranging the hook-up. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.The girl I know today offered me, when I asked her jokingly if she can find me an old woman, just for the thrill if it, and a girl who can massage and a young girl.
For a) she advised her 'aunt'.
For b) her sister in law.
And for c) her niece.
This girl I am talking of, and another, work fine for me as I am not much into looks department, I only check if they aren't fat or total fugly.
After all if they were hot a few natives would have kidnapped them I guess or will be making loads of money as some rich fellow's / politician's mistress (as most pinays say as to what happens to cute girls.).
The only reason I insists on picture is, I do check if they are fat, as while I don't look for super skinny, nor baby elephants. Fat and healthy mean same for most Filipinos. They do get offended if you call a 80 kilo 4 footer as fat, as they think she is getting good food and is healthy.
I actually went on YouTube to find videos about "Harison plaza" hotel to catch a glims of these girls. Just to see what it looks like..<snip>Looks & performance of free lance, semi pro or indeed pro's will vary widely with mall girls. Usually these are young impoverished girls (anything from squatter to student) so don't expect too much in the looks / performance dep't. You are unlikely to find employed or hiso girls. You can get lucky sometimes as with any mongering. Its all part of the fun. You can turn up amazing results by asking an 'average' provider whom you have been serviced by if she has any friends / relatives she knows who would like to join in next time or simply fill in next time. In this country where roughly 1,000 girls a week turn 18 all you have to do is 1) Stand still, they come to you & 2) Ask nicely for what you want. Be amazed how eager they are to please you & help each other to siphon your largesse.
As stated else where Harrison Plaza is an old mall. Its not a dive but its not new & flashy. Girl quality improves with mall quality. Robinsons mall further up the street is better. Glorietta same or better. Forget Rockwell that's where hiso girls spend their rich Korean/Chinese sugar daddy's money.
Tally ho!
AV.
Shanghai1955
05-23-14, 20:09
Using pimpettes is a huge time and hassle-saver. I have found that just about any girl is capable of providing the service (as every Filipina has friends, relatives, neighbors, etc)., but only a very few can provide the service reliably over a long period. Similar to Econo Tech, I also pay a flat p500 to the pimpette for arranging the hook-up. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.How does one find a good pimpette? That sounds like the way to go, especially nice because I don't like the bar.
Pip Jaeger
05-24-14, 01:34
How does one find a good pimpette? That sounds like the way to go, especially nice because I don't like the bar.It's easy, take out an ad in Craig's list. They'll be banging down your door, LOL. Seriously, you develop via girls you've met or if you're lucky a fellow monger may introduce you to his (don't bother asking me for any of mine, I'm greedy, I don't share).
LukeSkywalker
05-24-14, 01:51
Besides this story, I never read in any threads and don't know of anyone, men or women, in any country who have their extended families engage in prostitution.
It does show that people in the Phil have a lot looser morals than others.
I read some historical accounts that after WWII, the Philippines voted a few times to seek statehood with the US, but the US turned them down repeatedly. In the same time frame, the US did annex Puerto Rico, not as a state, but as a commonwealth, with special tax exempts and nonvoting US citizenship to the island inhabitants.
The Philippines did have a very important location in the Western Pacific for the US fleet, but the US still declined annexing the Philippines on grounds the population is lazy, unintelligent and of weak morals fiber.
Filipinos are nice, sweet, gentle and non-aggressive. I always have good times and good sex with the girls. Their moral fiber is their own business, none of mine.
The girl I know today offered me, when I asked her jokingly if she can find me an old woman, just for the thrill if it, and a girl who can massage and a young girl.
For a) she advised her 'aunt'.
For b) her sister in law.
And for c) her niece.
This girl I am talking of, and another, work fine for me as I am not much into looks department, I only check if they aren't fat or total fugly.
MangoBob68
05-24-14, 03:21
Lets not get carried away - "just stand still and they come to you"? I am sure you are joking. I just spent all of January and February in the Philippines and was approached only one.
Time by to girls in SM Mall who came up to me while walking and asked if I would buy them lunch! Hahahahahahaah.
I confess. I admire / jealous how you guys over age 65 catch hot young chica babes every day.
The only thing I attract are the fish when I feed them bread crums while snorkeling.
You could write back. I should stick a 1000 peso note on my fore head to get attention. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Some guy here posted about buying Viagra in the local drug stores. You can without a prescription but the price is near American prices. Check on it. The guys who approach you on the street. Their product is fake don't try it.
What I suggest is ask your doctor for prescription. Stock pile it before you take your trip.
As for me. I get 4 100 gm pills per month for $20 USD. That is my health coverage. If I want more. Then it is like $20 per pill. So each month I collect 4 and have 20 to 30 to take.
With me to the Philippines.
Some comments on past posts:
1. true. Usually quality of the mall means quality choices. I might be blind but I never got a look at Mall of Asia. Advice. Don't go there on weekends unless you like wall to wall.
People.
2. I have use Harrison shopping center. Its anchor is a nice SM Department store. Has a shaky's pizza inside plus a good market to buy beer and wine to take back to your hotel.
I have enjoyed the Orchid Garden Suites hotel. Harrison / ocampo streets. I have picked up a few ladies at Harrison on and off over the last 10 years. But on my last two visits I not see the girls. Maybe it was too early but one member here said it was picking up again.
3. about a mamsan. I used before in Harrison. One advantage they have is if you not like the girls in front of you she can call others to come for you to checkout. Tell her what you.
Like and she will try to get for you.
4. I know this is not the board to talk hotels but some have mention places they take girls back and their view on malate and such.
I have always stayed in malate in the past and never had a problem. This last visit. Jan / Feb / March. I stayed in pasay at the shogun hotel for 1900 / per night includes breakfast.
What is great is that if you make reservation before arriving they will pick you up at the airport. Saving you 250 pesos. The normal charge. The airport taxi will try to get 500 or.
More. Last point this hotel is just 7 peso 10 minute jeepney ride to Mall of Asia.
5. date sites are good to use to find girls you might want to meet during your visit. Before going. One month in advance. Used cherry blossoms, DNA, tagged. The last two are free and most know.
I wish I had more to share because in the past I learned a lot.
Don't be mad. I first used this site starting in 1995. It seems there is a lot more arguing and blasting each other. Complaining and less sharing of adventures.
There are some great posts. Many are very informative. I just see more and more arguing back and forth than in the past.
I just scroll past all of that and look for the meaningful posts.
My last trip. I met 6 woman during my 2 month stay. Enjoyed my time with two. Took one to Bohol / panglao island for 3 days. The other one to oslob to jump in the water with the whalesharks or butanding. Yes, I got to jump in the girl a few times.
All of you good luck. Stay happy and healthy.
Filipinos are nice, sweet, gentle and non-aggressive. I always have good times and good sex with the girls. Their moral fiber is their own business, none of mine.If you're going there to be w / them, then you're not far from them on any level.
There is no moral upper ground here on ISG.
The Philippines did have a very important location in the Western Pacific for the US fleet, but the US still declined annexing the Philippines on grounds the population is lazy, unintelligent and of weak morals fiber.
I suspect this is your imagination based on experience at work here Luke.
Unless you can provide a substantial reference based on extensive research, I would have to seriously doubt this statement.
I have worked closely with the more intelligent members of the country in almost every region from north to south and I would suggest that the Philippines has a number of lazy, unintelligent and immoral people that fits the normal distribution (left-hand side of the bell curve) for any large developing country in the world. At the mid and opposite extreme of the bell curve, you will find some extraordinarily industrious, intelligent and extremely "moral" (whatever that means) filipinos.
I suspect from your recent posts that you were burned by the Philippines and you are determined to paint the most negative picture that you can of your experiences. Experienced visitors and residents like me know that many of your comments (including the one re-quoted above) are just plain silly.
How does one find a good pimpette? That sounds like the way to go, especially nice because I don't like the bar.Find a girl for sex, ask the girl if she has any friends who would like to join in / take her place next time. Its that easy. Even bars, pick a nice girl that you feel is keen, ask her if she has friend who's like to join a 3 some. Be amazed...
AV
Econo Tech
05-24-14, 07:25
I suspect this is your imagination based on experience at work here Luke.
Unless you can provide a substantial reference based on extensive research, I would have to seriously doubt this statement..And, Filipinos lacking morals?
They have their own morals.
Like the mountain folks insisting I should not spend time with a prospective girl vs some other parts where I was casually warned that I will end up dead if I get a girl of their area pregnant .
The casual sex / sex for benefits and not thinking of it as OK, I believe has more to do with lower pay and as long as no messy thing afterwards, a month's pay for a date is OK.
Note that unlike other Asian countries Filipinos call it a date. Except the hardened ones who straight call it a fuck session.
And American influence 'plus the church steadfastly fighting against sex education. And the natives thinking it is OK after seeing movie stars and Senators doing it adds up I guess.
After all, it is Go Forth and multiply. And any woman who gets pregnant outside marriage is strongly discouraged from abortion. It all add up.
There was a survey and it was found that almost 80% of Filipinos don't believe sex can get any girl pregnant. If a girl gets pregnant. It is Gods Grace.
Asian Rain
05-24-14, 08:37
How does one find a good pimpette?Finding "a" pimpette is no problem. Any older girl without employment you might find at LA Cafe or trawling DIA is a potential supplier. You just need to be honest and say "I am looking for a specific kind of girl. Maybe you can help me?". Most likely she can help.
The operative word in your query is "good". How does one find a "good" pimpette? I would define a "good" pimpette as one who is: reliable with time, brings girls to my specification, can supply consistent fresh product, understands discretion, does not try to get involved with you, does not try to "up the rate" and MOST IMPORTANTLY never tries to bring her personal issues into your business relationship (sudden requests for money, various crises, etc.). To find a "good" pimpette it takes lots of trial and error and training. I went through at least 10 pimpettes until I have settled with my current stable of suppliers. Now that I have a few geese-that-lay-golden-eggs, I keep good care of them. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain
Quick question, is it possible to buy viagra over the counter in Manila without a prescription, eg at Mercury drugstore? All I know is, that you can buy a generic thing over the counter. Not the original but it works. 100 mg tablet for around 3 USD.
Member #4698
05-24-14, 15:46
is it possible to buy viagra over the counter in Manila without a prescription, eg at Mercury drugstore?
ThanksYes, you got it right. Go to Mercury Drugstore. Funny thing, Cialis is no longer available in any drugstore anywhere in the PI. A pharmacist told me the distributor lost his license.
Unless you can provide a substantial reference based on extensive research, I would have to seriously doubt this statement. I have worked closely with the more intelligent members of the country .Hi Guys, I have to go with Red on this one. We all have lazy, immoral people in our own countries so to characterize an entire country this way is just plain wrong. Additionally, there are many kinds of intelligences. Read Howard Gardner's Multiple Intelligence Theory if you are interested. Emotional intelligence stemmed from this. Music, too, for example, is another intelligence and I bet Filipinos as a race would score high on that. Sure, the girls we meet on DIA or LA Cafe are usually not the the brightest we have met but do you want to have deep conversations or do you want to get laid by a sweet young thing?
Guy Wif Attitude
05-24-14, 17:16
Yes, you got it right. Go to Mercury Drugstore. Funny thing, Cialis is no longer available in any drugstore anywhere in the PI. A pharmacist told me the distributor lost his license.Thanks Natty Bumpo.
LukeSkywalker
05-24-14, 19:17
You suspect wrong.
I really like sex and relationships with Filipinas because they speak English, even though they are not as good-looking as girls in China, Korea, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia or Japan.
I am not trying to paint the most negative pictures of the Philippines. In contrary I recommend the Phil as one of the best sex vacation locations to the bros.
I am not about to do a full-blown research about the Phil for your benefits. You can do that yourself. There were lots of references to US Congress turning down proposals to annex the Philippines after WWII. It's not my words, but US legislators summing up the situation then, calling these islanders "Asian niggers.".
Both the Philippines and Puerto rico were US colony before WWII, but the US granted nonvoting US citizenship to Puerto Ricans as a commonwealth, not a state, so residents don't have to pay US federal income taxes, along with decades of import tax exempt for products. US drugs and medical devices invested in PR, raising local wages and incomes to near US levels.
Unlike all other countries I have spent time in, there are just way too many men and women in the Philippines offer to sell girls, boys, family, friends and young children for sex. While there are immoral people in any countries, in my personal experiences, the percentage of sleazy, immoral people in the Phil is very very high compared to other countries.
I suspect this is your imagination based on experience at work here Luke.
Unless you can provide a substantial reference based on extensive research, I would have to seriously doubt this statement.
I have worked closely with the more intelligent members of the country in almost every region from north to south and I would suggest that the Philippines has a number of lazy, unintelligent and immoral people that fits the normal distribution (left-hand side of the bell curve) for any large developing country in the world. At the mid and opposite extreme of the bell curve, you will find some extraordinarily industrious, intelligent and extremely "moral" (whatever that means) filipinos.
I suspect from your recent posts that you were burned by the Philippines and you are determined to paint the most negative picture that you can of your experiences. Experienced visitors and residents like me know that many of your comments (including the one re-quoted above) are just plain silly.
Lets get real guys. Sex tourists & wife hunters visit developing countries because impoverished people provide what is sought out of need. Philippines is no different. Lets get back to discussing Manila sex scene here.
AV.
Anyone here really qualified to judge morals? Maybe the ones with the higher post counts? Or the ones on vitamin V? WTF!
{S N I P}the Philippines voted a few times to seek statehood with the US, but the US turned them down repeatedly. {S N I P}
US still declined annexing the Philippines on grounds the population is lazy, unintelligent and of weak morals fiber. {S N I P}
There is no evidence anywhere that the Philippines, either when still a US Territory (immediately after the war), or after being granted independence, EVER held a referendum on joining the US as a state OR petitioned the US Congress to grant statehood.
Small grass roots movements in PI have from time to time attempted to raise the issue.
End of story: back to the girls!
Cheers.
lets get real guys. sex tourists & wife hunters visit developing countries because impoverished people provide what is sought out of need. philippines is no different. lets get back to discussing manila sex scene here.
av.i just got back from my 5th pi trip and hung in manila half the time, the other half in ac. usually i pass thru manila but this time i wanted to see what all the fuss is about. i didn't stray far from makati but did check out havana cafe a couple of times and took a peek in la cafe. edsa will have to wait for my next trip, i heard edsa used to be less expensive than makati but not anymore so i thought i would skip it, there's plenty of pussy in makati so i stayed put on burgos street.
what i liked about burgos was it is a condensed scene w / lots of action on 3 short blocks. later in the evening all the massage girls come out and it gets pretty intense. lots of options and i did luck one time w / a double bbbj session, it was off the charts in the ecstasy department. the bar girls in general were well above what angeles city has to offer (these days), plenty 7's and a few 8's imo. my go to bars were 1. bottoms 2. kojax and high heels had some nice items as well. those are the ones i can remember now in my jet lagged ppd state of being, there were some nice ladies rep001tered around the scene but i usually found something at bottoms or kojax, kojax having the better take out price at 2,600 p, bottoms the worst at 3,900 p. if i spent substantial time in makati i would steer clear of the bars but i was there for a few days so i didn't let the outrages bar fines slow me down.
overall i will never go back to the pi in the summer months, it was just toooo fucking hot! otherwise i liked manila for it's own personality and makati was perfect for a manila beginner. i stayed at st giles which was fine and a perfect short walk to the burgos st. action. you can also walk to greenbelt from st giles easily if you want to sweat. the havana cafe had (mostly) used up 30 year olds but on my 2nd visit there, there were a couple of stunners. the thing about stunners in clothes is they might not be stunners nude so you are taking a chance at places like the havana imo. there were a couple of beauties though i must say.
when you shop in the bars, especially bottoms you will see the merchandise before you purchase it which is obviously a good thing. i enjoyed tight filipina after tight filipina and i was delighted w / the quality in this aspect of the hobby. out of 12+ ladies, eight took some time getting in there, two were on the loose side and two were only bbbj material so i was a happy chappy in this regard. sweet!
the comparison to the "new ac" is manila has the prettier women easily. manila compared to cebu, cebu wins easily w / a higher percentage of stunners imo. but every manila beauty (except one from bottoms, i knew not even to ask) was bar finable by a western guy. every lady i talked to in manila was happy to go w / me. conversely in ac the very few beauties i could find were offish, not bar finable, some wouldn't even look at me. out of a thousand ladies i saw, less then 5% were not plain looking. i would say (for me) ac has 5% that are doable.
on my first trip to ac in 2010 there were 20% that were doable for me. the "new ac" is really suffering from all the raid bullshit, the better lookers aren't going there any longer and the ones that are there are full of themselves. the one thing ac still has going for it are the prices, so if you do find something nice it is inexpensive to just enjoy time together (albeit) w / a less sophisticated lady. i found a dark skinned beauty w / a perfect spinner body. we spent a few days together at the pool and just bar hopping around, she was happy w / a thou per night but i gave her more. i found her at the atlantis bar. this kind of experience was not available in the big city but i guess if one does the dia thing you can do quite nicely in manila w/ longer connections w/ the lady. manila would be a harder place to stay w/ one gal though.
as for my experience in the pi, cebu has the most beautiful women hands down. the only problem is they will not go w / westerners and so you are likely to be played by these spoiled bar sluts. i didn't have this problem in manila and the talent was plenty fine. so that's my disjointed tr but it's the best i can do right now only having been back in the usa 18 hours. life will stink for a few days until my bio rhythm gets on track and my memory fades a bit. i had a great trip and the pussy was off the charts. keep an eye on the photo gallery. cheers.
As for my experience in the PI, Cebu has the most beautiful women hands down. The only problem is they will not go w / westerners Hmm I've never had a problem with Cebuanas and I am also a butterfly in Manila. So many choices, so little time!
Hmm I've never had a problem with Cebuanas and I am also a butterfly in Manila. So many choices, so little time!Maybe he is referring to his experience that some girls only want to go with Koreans?
Cheers.
Maybe he is referring to his experience that some girls only want to go with Koreans?
Cheers.You're probably right, Ikks. I have seen those types of bargirls, too. I mostly go with DIAs. It's hit-and-miss but lots of hits. Wicked Roger sent me some nice referrals, too.
Maybe he is referring to his experience that some girls only want to go with Koreans?
Cheers.Of course it's a K problem. On one hand they seem harmless and non demanding of the ladies (exception, the line up where ever they go, LOL).
But if K bars discriminate against girls who go w / westerners thus discouraging fair and equal treatment (in their bars) of all mongers then they are scu*.
The latter is what I think is happening but I am not 100% sure.
If it is so and K bars discriminate against ladies that go w/ westerners then WTF? What can be done? Probably nothing.
But yes I have been HEAVILY discriminated against by Cebu bar girls, the really hot ones. AC on a much smaller scale since there is nothing much available in AC.
Plan B is what I end up with in Cebu or AC, Manila on the other hand was a nice surprise.
AC is almost worthless so let the K's have it, haha, (jk). I love that place, wouldn't mind being buried there.
Member #4698
05-25-14, 14:59
i just got back from my 5th pi trip and hung in manila half the time, the other half in ac. usually i pass thru manila but this time i wanted to see what all the fuss is about. i didn't stray far from makati but did check out havana cafe a couple of times and took a peek in la cafe. edsa will have to wait for my next trip, i heard edsa used to be less expensive than makati but not anymore so i thought i would skip it, there's plenty of pussy in makati so i stayed put on burgos street.
what i liked about burgos was it is a condensed scene w / lots of action on 3 short blocks. later in the evening all the massage girls come out and it gets pretty intense. lots of options and i did luck one time w / a double bbbj session, it was off the charts in the ecstasy department. the bar girls in general were well above what angeles city has to offer (these days), plenty 7's and a few 8's imo. my go to bars were 1. bottoms 2. kojax and high heels had some nice items as well. those are the ones i can remember now in my jet lagged ppd state of being, there were some nice ladies rep001tered around the scene but i usually found something at bottoms or kojax, kojax having the better take out price at 2,600 p, bottoms the worst at 3,900 p. if i spent substantial time in makati i would steer clear of the bars but i was there for a few days so i didn't let the outrages bar fines slow me down.
i stayed at st giles which was fine and a perfect short walk to the burgos st. action. you can also walk to greenbelt from st giles easily if you want to sweat. the havana cafe had (mostly) used up 30 year olds but on my 2nd visit there, there were a couple of stunners. the thing about stunners in clothes is they might not be stunners nude so you are taking a chance at places like the havana imo. there were a couple of beauties though i must say.
when you shop in the bars, especially bottoms you will see the merchandise before you purchase it which is obviously a good thing. i enjoyed tight filipina after tight filipina and i was delighted w / the quality in this aspect of the hobby. out of 12+ ladies, eight took some time getting in there, two were on the loose side and two were only bbbj material so i was a happy chappy in this regard. sweet!i too had a great time at bottoms bar. the girl i picked up there in april gave me the best sessions of my recent trip. not only was she hot, but she had a real personality. she was, for lack of a better word, hip, so taking her out of the bar lt was better than being with any sweet province girl i had in ac or subic. the sex was wild and she was very gfe. it was those in between sex times when i could relate to her as a smart, cosmopolitan city girl that set her apart from virtually all the other pinay bar girls i had this last trip. the sex was great plus we could actually have a conversation about interesting things afterword. she was upbeat. there was no torch song about how a former boyfriend knocked her up and left her. she told me she had several international bf's who had taken to bali, singapore, bangkok and phuket. she spoke about those places with knowledge and understanding. she wanted to show me around makati at night. unfortunately i met her on my last 2 days of the trip so we did not have time for hitting the club scene. we will do that next time for sure.
the barfine at bottoms is crazy. my girl admitted as much and she plans to see me next time outside of her bar. she knows they hurt her bottom line. the lady drinks are subtracted from the barfine, but i still managed to spend a bundle in the bar. who cares when the quality is this good. she was worth 5 perimeter road rice farmer's daughters.
don't write off edsa entertainment complex. cotton club has some lookers.
as for the havana cafe, imho the selection is not much better than la cafe. if you are nearby it is always worth a look, but don't count on finding anyone special.
as good as the selection was at bottoms, there are places with even higher quality girls. i call these places the international bars. i am talking about places in pasay like the bay (formerly known as aen) , universe girl club, lala land, and liberty island. they are expensive no doubt, but the quality is most definitely here.
so i agree with you that manila has the best looking bar girls in the pi. if you click with one, you won't be sorry. on my next trip, i am planning on spending a lot more time in makati and i will probably cut down my ac time to 2 or 3 nights or drop it entirely.
BrasilSoccer0
05-25-14, 23:16
socker,
thanks for the great report.
what i like about it:
you cite specific locations in manila for the action.
you give a great comparison between manila, cebu and ac. i didn't know cebu had the hottest girls. but is that strictly bar and working girls or are you talking about the native population of cebu?
i also had no idea ac is getting worst!
i just got back from my 5th pi trip and hung in manila half the time, the other half in ac. usually i pass thru manila but this time i wanted to see what all the fuss is about. i didn't stray far from makati but did check out havana cafe a couple of times and took a peek in la cafe. edsa will have to wait for my next trip, i heard edsa used to be less expensive than makati but not anymore so i thought i would skip it, there's plenty of pussy in makati so i stayed put on burgos street.
what i liked about burgos was it is a condensed scene w / lots of action on 3 short blocks. later in the evening all the massage girls come out and it gets pretty intense. lots of options and i did luck one time w / a double bbbj session, it was off the charts in the ecstasy department. the bar girls in general were well above what angeles city has to offer (these days), plenty 7's and a few 8's imo. my go to bars were 1. bottoms 2. kojax and high heels had some nice items as well. those are the ones i can remember now in my jet lagged ppd state of being, there were some nice ladies rep001tered around the scene but i usually found something at bottoms or kojax, kojax having the better take out price at 2,600 p, bottoms the worst at 3,900 p. if i spent substantial time in makati i would steer clear of the bars but i was there for a few days so i didn't let the outrages bar fines slow me down.
overall i will never go back to the pi in the summer months, it was just toooo fucking hot! otherwise i liked manila for it's own personality and makati was perfect for a manila beginner. i stayed at st giles which was fine and a perfect short walk to the burgos st. action. you can also walk to greenbelt from st giles easily if you want to sweat. the havana cafe had (mostly) used up 30 year olds but on my 2nd visit there, there were a couple of stunners. the thing about stunners in clothes is they might not be stunners nude so you are taking a chance at places like the havana imo. there were a couple of beauties though i must say.
when you shop in the bars, especially bottoms you will see the merchandise before you purchase it which is obviously a good thing. i enjoyed tight filipina after tight filipina and i was delighted w / the quality in this aspect of the hobby. out of 12+ ladies, eight took some time getting in there, two were on the loose side and two were only bbbj material so i was a happy chappy in this regard. sweet!
the comparison to the "new ac" is manila has the prettier women easily. manila compared to cebu, cebu wins easily w / a higher percentage of stunners imo. but every manila beauty (except one from bottoms, i knew not even to ask) was bar finable by a western guy. every lady i talked to in manila was happy to go w / me. conversely in ac the very few beauties i could find were offish, not bar finable, some wouldn't even look at me. out of a thousand ladies i saw, less then 5% were not plain looking. i would say (for me) ac has 5% that are doable.
on my first trip to ac in 2010 there were 20% that were doable for me. the "new ac" is really suffering from all the raid bullshit, the better lookers aren't going there any longer and the ones that are there are full of themselves. the one thing ac still has going for it are the prices, so if you do find something nice it is inexpensive to just enjoy time together (albeit) w / a less sophisticated lady. i found a dark skinned beauty w / a perfect spinner body. we spent a few days together at the pool and just bar hopping around, she was happy w / a thou per night but i gave her more. i found her at the atlantis bar. this kind of experience was not available in the big city but i guess if one does the dia thing you can do quite nicely in manila w/ longer connections w/ the lady. manila would be a harder place to stay w/ one gal though.
as for my experience in the pi, cebu has the most beautiful women hands down. the only problem is they will not go w / westerners and so you are likely to be played by these spoiled bar sluts. i didn't have this problem in manila and the talent was plenty fine. so that's my disjointed tr but it's the best i can do right now only having been back in the usa 18 hours. life will stink for a few days until my bio rhythm gets on track and my memory fades a bit. i had a great trip and the pussy was off the charts. keep an eye on the photo gallery. cheers...
she had a real personality. She was, for lack of a better word, hip, so It was those in between sex times when I could relate to her as a smart, cosmopolitan city girl that set her apart from virtually all plus we could actually have a conversation about interesting things afterword.Did she happen to have any hip, cosmopolitan city girl suggestions for cheap hotels that you could relate to?
Life will stink for a few days until my bio rhythm gets on track and my memory fades a bit. I had a great trip and the pussy was off the charts. Keep an eye on the photo gallery. Cheers...Great report, Bro Socker! Nice to meet you and now? PPD? Means Post Philippine Depression?
Cheers Mate!
LukeSkywalker
05-26-14, 18:17
About 5% doable girls in Angeles City is about right.
I did barfine a good-looking young girl from Atlantis, only to be screwed by her.
Girls in Manilla are much better-looking, nice, sweet, gentle, sexy, with good attitudes. One of the young girls I took from LA Cafe was horny, she was literally fucking my brains out...hehe.
I just got back from my 5th PI trip and hung in Manila half the time, the other half in AC.
The comparison to the "NEW AC" is Manila has the prettier women easily. Manila compared to Cebu, Cebu wins easily w / a higher percentage of stunners IMO. BUT every Manila beauty (except one from Bottoms, I knew not even to ask) was bar finable by a western guy. Every lady I talked to in Manila was happy to go w / me. Conversely in AC the very few beauties I could find were offish, not bar finable, some wouldn't even look at me. Out of a thousand ladies I saw, less then 5% were not plain looking. I would say (for me) AC has 5% that are doable.
On my first trip to AC in 2010 there were 20% that were doable for me. The "NEW AC" is really suffering from all the raid bullshit, the better lookers aren't going there any longer and the ones that are there are full of themselves. The one thing AC still has going for it are the prices, so if you do find something nice it is inexpensive to just enjoy time together (albeit) w / a less sophisticated lady....
Member #4698
05-26-14, 18:22
Did she happen to have any hip, cosmopolitan city girl suggestions for cheap hotels that you could relate to?I didn't ask her about her hotel recommendations although I am sure she has been in many of the finer ones. I was staying at the Fairmont which was new to her. I think it met with her approval. LOL.
She did tell me she shares a one bedroom apartment with three other girls in Makati. I didn't have the time to go see it.
I was staying at the Fairmont which was new to her. I think it met with her approval. LOL..Nothing stimulating like when you bring your date back to your hotel room and she says she's been there in that room before. Most of them aren't smart enough to not tell you.
Have not been to Philippines in 6 yrs. One thing I found very irritating was that there was no Philippine bank I could walk into and purchase Pisos with my VISA debit card, which is common procedure at most Thai banks. My only option was to use Citibank ATMS and pay a transaction fee. Are there other options?
Great report, Bro Socker! Nice to meet you and now? PPD? Means Post Philippine Depression?
Cheers Mate!Hi Ekspat,
Yeah, when you travel solo all the time it is really great to sit down with a cool dude and have a cold one. I enjoyed our short time watching the heat go by, haha, it was so hot you could actually see it, maybe I was heat sick, I don't remember, haha?? Hope you had fun later on that night. The little cherubic Bottom's girl and I had a fabulous time, in the bars and in the room. But being it was my last night I wanted more and so I heavily participated in the Burgos St (Zoo) scene for hours.
I finally found the big titted bar girl at 2 am and by then I was no good for anything. Should of quit while I was ahead w / the one I brought by the bar to meet you. Oh well, now I'm back in the REAL world and it gets harder and harder to accept, I'll find a way till the next trip.
Thanks for that beer, I hope there's another time when I can reciprocate.
Socker,
Thanks for the great report.
What I like about it:
You cite specific locations in Manila for the action.
You give a great comparison between Manila, Cebu and AC. I didn't know Cebu had the hottest girls. But is that strictly bar and working girls or are you talking about the native population of Cebu?
I also had no idea AC is getting worst!Just wanted to say thanks for your input. As for mongering in the PI I have mostly bar experience. A little mall and zero DIA so when I was talking about beauty in these cities I was referring to the bargirls. I didn't do enough mall work but I also noticed the Greenbelt is nowhere near as good as Ayala Mall in Cebu for random cuties.
As Natty mentioned there are other more expensive bars in Manila and maybe the top lookers are there. In Cebu I saw a higher percentage of real gems then anywhere I've been to in the PI. These gems though were heartless little hustlers. In Manila I was happy not to run into any of these types.
I too had a great time at Bottoms Bar. The girl I picked up there in April gave me the best sessions of my recent trip. Not only was she hot, but she had a real personality. She was, for lack of a better word, hip, so taking her out of the bar LT was better than being with any sweet province girl I had in AC or Subic. The sex was wild and she was very GFE. It was those in between sex times when I could relate to her as a smart, cosmopolitan city girl that set her apart from virtually all the other Pinay bar girls I had this last trip. The sex was great plus we could actually have a conversation about interesting things afterword. She was upbeat. There was no torch song about how a former boyfriend knocked her up and left her. She told me she had several international BF's who had taken to Bali, Singapore, Bangkok and Phuket. She spoke about those places with knowledge and understanding. She wanted to show me around Makati at night. Unfortunately I met her on my last 2 days of the trip so we did not have time for hitting the club scene. We will do that next time for sure..My best memory of this last trip is of floating w / my little Atlantis dancer in the PB pool. We did this everyday and it was pure bliss (for me). She was in my arms and balanced on my thighs as we bobbed up and down in the pool just drifting and drifting around. She had her arms around me and I had my arms around her backside holding her to me effortlessly. Bobbing and bobbing in the thousand degree heat, staying cool in this beautiful dream, so clear that it seems real. This hobby gets harder and harder to endure now that I'm in the USA.
Thanks for the info on the clubs in Manila, would definitely like to pop in and see the merchandise. Best to you Natty!
PI gets better as I get older, but the flights get harder and harder.
I did alot of DIA and FilCupid work before I got there. I treat DIA as a FL site, and FC as a relationship site. I found a few girls on FC I thought I could be serious with. As usual, once I meet them, it ends up being that there is something wrong. The one girl I met had bad english, and was married to her job. I had planned on being with her most of the time, so when that fell apart, I looked for other options.
I stayed on Burgos. I would not recommend the Citadel. For the cost, you can do better. The Tune Hotel, for example. The beauty of Burgos is all the options right outside your door. The first day off the flight, I took a fat massage girl up that gave a good massage and BBBJ for 1000 p. Not too bad.
I also had a great DIA experience. On DIA, I usually just pursue the 20-25 yo hotties and head the conversation towards I want them to stay the night with me (ie leave little to doubt). One girl I did not make it that far with in the chatting, but when I land she is pursuing me on skype and then texting with wanting to meet me. I was thinking Lady Boy? I told her I was at greenbelt, and boom, she arrives. And she was hot and available. After a long night of wining and dining, back to the room, and no questions asked that she is to stay the night. And it was full game on. That shit rules! We spent many days together, then off to AC and she was sad.
More to come in the AC section.
Some final observations: Definately more Asians and middle eastern men in Manila now than a few years ago, including many more Huka bars.
FreebieFan
05-27-14, 01:36
About 5% doable girls in Angeles City is about right.
I did barfine a good-looking young girl from Atlantis, only to be screwed by her.
Girls in Manilla are much better-looking, nice, sweet, gentle, sexy, with good attitudes. One of the young girls I took from LA Cafe was horny, she was literally fucking my brains out...hehe.Yawn... When you have something that will be interesting to us, do post.
Instead you have repeated this post several times now.
You got screwed in Angeles. OK ...so what...
Member #4698
05-27-14, 18:54
Nothing stimulating like when you bring your date back to your hotel room and she says she's been there in that room before. Most of them aren't smart enough to not tell you.Right. But this one was different in that I think she would have told me if she had been to the Fairmont before because of her more sophisticated, enlightened point of view and attitude on such things I.E. to not feel guilty about what she does or care that some confused customer might disapprove. She freely told me about her month long stay in Ubud, Bali with her American "BF" and her two week trip to Bangkok and Phuket with her Chinese-American "BF". She told me about these trysts because she felt good about them (and because I think she was suggesting that I take her somewhere nice too) not because she wasn't smart enough to not tell me. This girl was different: "Hip," for lack of a better word. LOL.
Chris Long
05-27-14, 19:11
Which hotel is the closest most convenient and inexpensive to the Bay Café I arrive into Manila late this Saturday night around 12:30 am and will spend the first night in Manila before heading to AC. Want a hotel close to MBC for a first night action.
Thanks,
Chris
LukeSkywalker
05-27-14, 21:06
So I cannot even agree with a good assessment from a bro?
You have nothing better to post?
You are a rude bore and you sound like a pimp for the cheap, ugly hos in Angeles City.
Yawn... When you have something that will be interesting to us, do post.
Instead you have repeated this post several times now.
You got screwed in Angeles. OK ...so what...
FreebieFan
05-28-14, 03:40
So I cannot even agree with a good assessment from a bro?
You have nothing better to post?
You are a rude bore and you sound like a pimp for the cheap, ugly hos in Angeles City.Good ill informed uneducated post.
Given that I haven't been in Angeles for 15 years. But there you are, with your opinion for all to see.
Its you sweetpea, who has nothing better to post.
You've had your little petulant rant about AC and now you just keep repeating it. The girls there didn't like you. That much is obvious.
Let it go. You didn't enjoy it..Move on..
Which hotel is the closest most convenient and inexpensive to the Bay Caf I arrive into Manila late this Saturday night around 12:30 am and will spend the first night in Manila before heading to AC. Want a hotel close to MBC for a first night action.
Thanks,
Chris,
From Hotel Best Western Corona (aka La Corona), MBC is very close. Turn left out the Hotel door, walk three blocks; it's across the street. Can't miss it.
Please post after your visit to MBC!
BKKguru.
{S N I P}
You've had your little petulant rant about AC and now you just keep repeating it. The girls there didn't like you. That much is obvious.
Let it go. You didn't enjoy it..Move on..Bargirls obviously don't like him, as he reports "You can see the looks of hostility and disgust in their eyes".
Maybe something to do with his attitude towards girls: "I will try DIA and Craigslist for fresh meat...hehe.".
Somehow I don't think that he is capable of moving on.
Cheers.
Bargirls obviously don't like him, as he reports "You can see the looks of hostility and disgust in their eyes".
Maybe something to do with his attitude towards girls: "I will try DIA and Craigslist for fresh meat...hehe.".Online would be the way to go here in this case.
Capt Munch
05-28-14, 08:58
Which hotel is the closest most convenient and inexpensive to the Bay Caf I arrive into Manila late this Saturday night around 12:30 am and will spend the first night in Manila before heading to AC. Want a hotel close to MBC for a first night action.
Thanks,
ChrisYou have a recommendation of the Best Western (La Corona) Hotel within a few blocks of the LA Cafe. Other choices might bethe Swagman or the Southern Cross hotels are in the range of 2000 to 2500 php. Of the two, the rooms at the Southern Cross were nicer. All three hotels are located around the corner from each other.
Both the Swagman Hotel and the Southern Cross Hotel have buses that run from their hotels in Ermita (Manila) The Swagman and the Southern Cross hotels are just across the block from the Best Western (La Corona) ... Easy to walk there to catch either bus.
Both the Swagman "Fly the Bus" and the Southern Cross bus are 600 php and probably a bit more comfortable than a public bus for just a little more money.
Of the two, the Southern Cross is probably the larger and newer bus.
I have used both. Another advantage will be that either Swagman / Southern Cross bus will drop you at the major hotels here in Angeles whereas you will be at the mercy of the infamous Angeles City Trike Mafia at the Dau bus terminal to get you to your hotel.
The link for Southern Cross: http://www.thesoutherncrosshotelmanila.com/shuttle_bus.html (Departs Southern Cross Hotel, Ermita (3:30 pm)).
The link for Swagman: http://www.swaggy.com/fly-the-bus/ (11:30 AM 3:30 PM 8:30 PM).
Cost analysis: 100 php (trike to Pasay Bus Terminal + 134 php public bus + 150 php trike from Dau = roughly 400 php versus 600 php for the Swagman / Southern Cross.
I am happy with either one of the hotel buses.
Munch.
Fast Eddie 48
05-28-14, 19:27
Good ill informed uneducated post.
Given that I haven't been in Angeles for 15 years. But there you are, with your opinion for all to see.
Its you sweetpea, who has nothing better to post.
You've had your little petulant rant about AC and now you just keep repeating it. The girls there didn't like you. That much is obvious.
Let it go. You didn't enjoy it..Move on..To Freebie fan.
You are correct about the Lurker I am surprise that Jackson have not BAN him yet, he been to AC maybe once and he think he know everything no one give a damn about he get a runner and try to get his barfined back, he post that over and over and again if he have a job not been Unemployed in the US for over 10 yr he should not worry about losing the peso and stop crying about it no one care.
Fast eddie 48.
LukeSkywalker
05-28-14, 22:33
I mean the ugly looks LA Cafe girls were giving to old, geriatric guys with water eyes and drippy noses like you. Ickyman.
I always pick the best-looking young girls who are nice, sweet and sexy. I leave old, ugly biitches to old guys like you.
Bargirls obviously don't like him, as he reports "You can see the looks of hostility and disgust in their eyes".
Maybe something to do with his attitude towards girls: "I will try DIA and Craigslist for fresh meat...hehe.".
Somehow I don't think that he is capable of moving on.
Cheers.
Born Ripper
05-29-14, 10:16
Have not been to Philippines in 6 yrs. One thing I found very irritating was that there was no Philippine bank I could walk into and purchase Pisos with my VISA debit card, which is common procedure at most Thai banks. My only option was to use Citibank ATMS and pay a transaction fee. Are there other options?I found the casino (RWM) to be quite convenient. Not sure if your a gambler but it's a good place to exchange money. Safe and the exchange rates seems fair.
Chocha Monger
06-03-14, 06:30
Paid a visit to EDSA and discovered that it is not easy finding some fun in this joint without taking at least 6 K pesos in damages to the wallet all in. I ventured into Cotton Club and the usual old buzzards and weepy eyed walruses were perched around the bar or sprawled out in booths. On stage fallen angels shuffled in an endless purgatorial dance staring towards some unseen horizon.
Thirsty old female pimps and parched barflies swarmed around me demanding lady drinks. I shooed them away like a Korean monger as I strolled leisurely down the line up on stage. A petite piece of fuck meat with an incredibly innocent look caught my attention and I pointed at her. An old hag hurriedly beckoned and yelled at her to descend from among the display of fine fuck meats packed on the platform. She came over and shook my hand introducing herself by the name Sunshine.
I took Sunshine over to a booth and sat her in my lap. I inquired if she would like to leave the bar for a bit of root and stem. She indicated that she would love that. Our courtship was sealed with a drink and her ransom was paid. We left the complex hand in hand, man and wife, a sweet newly married couple. As we exited the touts and the taxi drivers pounced but I led her away to the crossing and on to the Sogo on the other side of EDSA Boulevard.
The room in Sogo was delightfully seedy and furnished with a rubber mattress and threadbare sheets. An ancient television set hug from a corner of the wall showing porno flicks. Sunshine looked a bit antsy so I let her set some ice on fire to ease the cravings as the last thing I needed was her rushing or freaking out because she needed a fix. As it took effect her big dark eyes glazed over and the fidgeting ceased. I stripped her naked as the day she was born. Then I pushed her back on the bed greedily sucking her young spring fresh tits while sinking a thick calloused finger knuckle-deep into her slippery wet grasping puss.
I climbed on top her and spread her thin black lipped brown clam open until the pearlescent pink inside glistened wetly. Then I rammed the tip of my prick into the tight flesh. It went in an inch then met with resistance. I had to work it back and forth in her raw wet pussy gaining an inch or so of progress with every few thrusts until my pillar was buried naked in her snatch up to the stones. The ice and the sensation of bare wet skin and membranes sliding and slipping against each other soon drove her into violent ecstasy. She came furiously yelling and trashing making me drop my load in her cervix. She lay panting as I collapsed on top of her coated in a light bead of sweat. I rolled over onto the bed next to her. She smiled as I propped myself up on one elbow stroking her hair and watching my goo leak slowly out of her swollen snatch creating a wet spot on the frayed sheets revealing the rubber mattress below. Then it occurred to me that the mattress had probably been the recipient of tens of thousands bodily fluid donations.
Member #4387
06-05-14, 19:14
In all cases it has become a tradition to write tripreports after they are executed. Last week I have spend in belowed Makati and I am now in BKK on my way home. I did have a strong motivation to do a fieldtrip down to Harrison mall to check out the FL birds hanging there but there was simply not enough time. I had in between mongering to do some baby monitoring as well so loosing some hours in a busy scheduel would have great effect in m preprogrammed scheduel. But it is still on my to do list.
I managed to do 10 or so birds and pics will come after I have brushed them back home but I must allready now tell about two extremely odd experiences happening this trip.
1. This 19 year old datingsitespinner came over to my hotel as in a midday session. She was shy but after a Tanduay pink she loosened up a bit. Lets say 15 minutes and she was all undressed and ready to go and we did everything according to my expectations. Fucked.
Today I get a long msg in my fake FB account from her and she by heart and all that crap thinks I am the most special guy she ever met. She admits she has met some guys before. You did not set the bar very high guys, hehe? Ofcourse this msg can be all crap and everything but I get a feeling she is genuine. We spend like 1,5 hrs together but then "I had to go somewhere" so she left (ofcourse a new girl was arriving shortly). I have ofcourse got sms's and e mails and other stuff before but nothing like this..
2. On another occation i was walking around the malls and entered Glorietta 5 (as I thought maby I would look up an earlier connection and do a surprise visit). Well did not get that far as when getting to the second fl I see two girls in a beauty shop smiling and laughing at me. I walk up to them and asked in a flirtatious manner if there was something I could assist them in. One girl just replied "you are very handsum"(with only this lvely laughter). I thought, wow, that was a nice compliment. I worked when things where hot and asked her oit to dinner. Full aware of this would create a bit of reschedueling but what don't we do to set up things like this. It is all about making sacrifise sth. Well she was realy beautiful.
Evening came and we agreed to meet 9 pm outside Gl 4 mall. She was a real stunner also out of her workhabit. But ofcourse she met up with all her workforce (4 people). This was a strange turn in event. It demands a strong heart to deal with surprises like this and tactics has to be changed all in a sudden. We did ofcourse have some text communication after we met but nothing in my mind came across to think she would meet up with chaperones. After Addams Family I am starting getting good at this and probably i should have learned as well.
Well all 5 of us had dinner and i put up my best act to devide my pray from the rest of the group without beeing successful. I got a feeling "my girl" was interested but was beeing told off by her co workers. She was all in a decent girl but she would more than likely meet up with me for hanging in the room the next day. Hm normaly this would be a walk in the park but with this one i got a doubtful mind she is not a play girl.
I did have one more "next day" but felt as stated this was very uncertain deal so went with my original plan to meet up with allready arranged more sure "dates". I build in some crappy excuse and have decided to work on this one through my fake FB accunt until next time. So I am not all in successful as I call this a miss (so far). But it was a bit fun as well to do some normal dates sut up in such a fun way..
BrasilSoccer0
06-05-14, 21:33
Cool report man.
What did the "datingsitespinner" cost you and for how long?
In all cases it has become a tradition to write tripreports after they are executed. Last week I have spend in belowed Makati and I am now in BKK on my way home. I did have a strong motivation to do a fieldtrip down to Harrison mall to check out the FL birds hanging there but there was simply not enough time. I had in between mongering to do some baby monitoring as well so loosing some hours in a busy scheduel would have great effect in m preprogrammed scheduel. But it is still on my to do list.
I managed to do 10 or so birds and pics will come after I have brushed them back home but I must allready now tell about two extremely odd experiences happening this trip.
1. This 19 year old datingsitespinner came over to my hotel as in a midday session. She was shy but after a Tanduay pink she loosened up a bit. Lets say 15 minutes and she was all undressed and ready to go and we did everything according to my expectations. Fucked.
Today I get a long msg in my fake FB account from her and she by heart and all that crap thinks I am the most special guy she ever met. She admits she has met some guys before. You did not set the bar very high guys, hehe? Ofcourse this msg can be all crap and everything but I get a feeling she is genuine. We spend like 1,5 hrs together but then "I had to go somewhere" so she left (ofcourse a new girl was arriving shortly). I have ofcourse got sms's and e mails and other stuff before but nothing like this..
2. On another occation i was walking around the malls and entered Glorietta 5 (as I thought maby I would look up an earlier connection and do a surprise visit). Well did not get that far as when getting to the second fl I see two girls in a beauty shop smiling and laughing at me. I walk up to them and asked in a flirtatious manner if there was something I could assist them in. One girl just replied "you are very handsum"(with only this lvely laughter). I thought, wow, that was a nice compliment. I worked when things where hot and asked her oit to dinner. Full aware of this would create a bit of reschedueling but what don't we do to set up things like this. It is all about making sacrifise sth. Well she was realy beautiful.
Evening came and we agreed to meet 9 pm outside Gl 4 mall. She was a real stunner also out of her workhabit. But ofcourse she met up with all her workforce (4 people). This was a strange turn in event. It demands a strong heart to deal with surprises like this and tactics has to be changed all in a sudden. We did ofcourse have some text communication after we met but nothing in my mind came across to think she would meet up with chaperones. After Addams Family I am starting getting good at this and probably i should have learned as well.
Well all 5 of us had dinner and i put up my best act to devide my pray from the rest of the group without beeing successful. I got a feeling "my girl" was interested but was beeing told off by her co workers. She was all in a decent girl but she would more than likely meet up with me for hanging in the room the next day. Hm normaly this would be a walk in the park but with this one i got a doubtful mind she is not a play girl.
I did have one more "next day" but felt as stated this was very uncertain deal so went with my original plan to meet up with allready arranged more sure "dates". I build in some crappy excuse and have decided to work on this one through my fake FB accunt until next time. So I am not all in successful as I call this a miss (so far). But it was a bit fun as well to do some normal dates sut up in such a fun way..
FreebieFan
06-06-14, 02:45
In all cases it has become a tradition to write tripreports after they are executed. Last week I have spend in belowed Makati and I am now in BKK on my way home. I did have a strong motivation to do a fieldtrip down to Harrison mall to check out the FL birds hanging there but there was simply not enough time. I had in between mongering to do some baby monitoring as well so loosing some hours in a busy scheduel would have great effect in m preprogrammed scheduel. But it is still on my to do list.
I managed to do 10 or so birds and pics will come after I have brushed them back home but I must allready now tell about two extremely odd experiences happening this trip.
1. This 19 year old datingsitespinner came over to my hotel as in a midday session. She was shy but after a Tanduay pink she loosened up a bit. Lets say 15 minutes and she was all undressed and ready to go and we did everything according to my expectations. Fucked.
Today I get a long msg in my fake FB account from her and she by heart and all that crap thinks I am the most special guy she ever met. She admits she has met some guys before. You did not set the bar very high guys, hehe? Ofcourse this msg can be all crap and everything but I get a feeling she is genuine. We spend like 1,5 hrs together but then "I had to go somewhere" so she left (ofcourse a new girl was arriving shortly). I have ofcourse got sms's and e mails and other stuff before but nothing like this..
2. She was a real stunner also out of her workhabit. But ofcourse she met up with all her workforce (4 people). This was a strange turn in event. It demands a strong heart to deal with surprises like this and tactics has to be changed all in a sudden. We did ofcourse have some text communication after we met but nothing in my mind came across to think she would meet up with chaperones. After Addams Family I am starting getting good at this and probably i should have learned as well.
Well all 5 of us had dinner and i put up my best act to devide my pray from the rest of the group without beeing successful. I got a feeling "my girl" was interested but was beeing told off by her co workers. She was all in a decent girl but she would more than likely meet up with me for hanging in the room the next day. Hm normaly this would be a walk in the park but with this one i got a doubtful mind she is not a play girl.
I..Am sure was as fun as always. I think if 4 had turned up for a "date"with me then I would have had an urgent meeting to attend to and sorry honey, next time maybe.
Note to monger newbies. Always have a pocketful of excuses, reasons why you have to leave, go somewhere else, ready and avaialbe to use, when the unexpected happens.
Member #4387
06-06-14, 03:39
What did the "datingsitespinner" cost you and for how long?
Am sure was as fun as always. I think if 4 had turned up for a "date"with me then I would have had an urgent meeting to attend to and sorry honey, next time maybe.
Note to monger newbies. Always have a pocketful of excuses, reasons why you have to leave, go somewhere else, ready and avaialbe to use, when the unexpected happens.Hm I don't run an exact scheduel or plan regarding "how long" and "price" To take prices first I tend to compensate accordingly to going rates and possible slightly above. But as there are no such thing as discussion of money upfront I guve out of how much I like her and performance. If we take this shy 19 year old meeting me at her day off she was compensated 2 k.
That takes me over to how long as to some maby 2 k seems steep for 1,5 hrs. Actually that is perfect timing as we then have time to get friendly, do one or two pops incl some play and in general things does not feel rushed. I enjoy it very much when girls don't hang around to long but often we have to invent a "long list" of excuses which takes me over to Freebie's comments who I also quoted. This is very important guys. Obviously you can see I am a lot better making up them excuses when I am in my own safehaven than I am meeting a bunch outside and things does not go exactly as planned, hehe. Lets say I so far hang in there as it has somewhat just started happen lately. No reason to invent powder all over again and good old more or less laim excuses will work perfectly. Pinays are such forgiving breed of girls. To my one on one meetings I mostly use "I have a friend working in Makati who I rarely sees" and most girls accept that. Sometimes I feel not very good about it as some girls show up with bags to stay a few days.
I also set up dates differently. Morning-callcentergirls), midday- and early / late afternoondates are short ones (never discuss any length with the girls though). Late nightdates are meant for "staying the night" and discussed upfront.
Steve Nash
06-06-14, 07:21
I also set up dates differently. Morning-callcentergirls), midday- and early / late afternoondates are short ones (never discuss any length with the girls though). Late nightdates are meant for "staying the night" and discussed upfront.Good advice Skogis, I'm taking notes since I'm planning to go on multiple dates everyday on my next trip.
My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, so if I don't get laid in one date I will go on another date couple of hours later, but if I get laid I will either cancel the next date or just meet them for a short period of time to get to know them better and make a second date if I like them. My plan is everyday to get laid twice a day (one for lunch and one for staying the night), except the 3 days I will go to Boracay and bring one girl only.
One question Skogis, what do you say to them when they ask you: How long are you staying in Phils?
Because if I say 3 or 4 days it will be too short for the busy girls, if I say the true 2 weeks they will be texting me all the time during the two weeks to meet again which I don't want since I will be texting like 40 girls during my trip, too much texting I will go crazy. Or do you suggest to lie and tell them I'm staying longer for 1 or 2 months.
By the way, I convince my fiance to let me go to Phils with my friends. I actually use a jealousy argument I had with her (made it worse, she caught the bait because she was drunk that time), and the next day I was ready to break up with her. My condition to stay with her was that she needs to prove me that she is not a jealous person anymore and let me go on this trip. She accepted even thought she kind of knows there is a good chance I will be sleeping around. Well, her fault for getting jealous when she was drunk.
Good advice Skogis, I'm taking notes since I'm planning to go on multiple dates everyday on my next trip.
My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, so if I don't get laid in one date I will go on another date couple of hours later, but if I get laid I will either cancel the next date or just meet them for a short period of time to get to know them better and make a second date if I like them. My plan is everyday to get laid twice a day (one for lunch and one for staying the night), except the 3 days I will go to Boracay and bring one girl only.
One question Skogis, what do you say to them when they ask you: How long are you staying in Phils?
Because if I say 3 or 4 days it will be too short for the busy girls, if I say the true 2 weeks they will be texting me all the time during the two weeks to meet again which I don't want since I will be texting like 40 girls during my trip, too much texting I will go crazy. Or do you suggest to lie and tell them I'm staying longer for 1 or 2 months.
By the way, I convince my fiance to let me go to Phils with my friends. I actually use a jealousy argument I had with her (made it worse, she caught the bait because she was drunk that time), and the next day I was ready to break up with her. My condition to stay with her was that she needs to prove me that she is not a jealous person anymore and let me go on this trip. She accepted even thought she kind of knows there is a good chance I will be sleeping around. Well, her fault for getting jealous when she was drunk.A man of real character here.
Run, man run!
I would never feel it is ok for my "date" to expect me to pony up a free meal for 3 freeloaders. I would be gone so fast, the girls would only see a blur.
Very little chance that will end up getting you laid.
what do you say to them when they ask you: How long are you staying in Phils?
I usually tell them I am in Phils for however long I am there for but that it is a work trip so can't see them every day. However I do have free time to meet up with them. And then the reason that I cannot see them the following day is work commitments. But then all the girls who meet me know it is just for fun anyway. Others I tell them the truth which is that I have a gf but just want to meet up for short term fun.
Member #4387
06-06-14, 13:40
I use the BS meter here and tekk them mostly I don't know as I have a loose scheduel and travels around. I get it saying you only stay here short time gets the girl more eeger to drop their panties fast.
Good advice Skogis, I'm taking notes since I'm planning to go on multiple dates everyday on my next trip.
My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, In my opinion way too many. You'll spent hours in traffic as well as the girls. You'll need (probably) a little time for yourself. And, if you have a date with a girl at 5 pm like I had today, I considered myself lucky when she arrived at 5. 45 pm. Late just 45 minutes, that's quite good. For Pinay standards.
IMHO, forget about 4 or even 5 dates a day. You must meet the first girl at 6 am to start with that schedule.
Anyway, good luck! Have fun!
My plan is to have 4 or 5 dates set-up everyday, so if I don't get laid in one date I will go on another date couple of hours later, but if I get laid I will either cancel the next date or just meet them for a short period of time to get to know them better and make a second date if I like them. My plan is everyday to get laid twice a day (one for lunch and one for staying the night), How do you define a date? Will you be dashing all over metro Manila? She's going to be late; how long are you prepared to wait at the date location? You can do 4 or 5 dates each day by simply arranging each date to be at your residence. If she doesn't want to meet at your place then you can conclude she's not genuine in her desire to fuck you. Your choice whether it be in your room (this I strongly advise) or in a coffeeshop / resto / bar very near your residence (less desirable). If you've communicated correctly every girl will know that the purpose of the meeting is to fuck and not to enjoy coffee-time chit-chat and mall wandering. Assuming come-to-fuck is the case why then add a time-consuming obstacle that adds no value to your enjoyment and could quite possibly derail it?
Much like Skogis I typically run a three-a-day routine on the days my main girl is working - on her days off my entire day is hers. The night-shift call-centre agent or college student arrives in the morning (almost always late), we chat for up to 1 hour, then it's to bed. I want her out no later than 1 because the next is due to arrive at 2:30 and I have to clean up the place. The afternoon girl will also be late. Again, we chat for a while, then it's to bed. I want her out by 7 pm because the nighttime girl is coming at 8:30. If Pinays were more attentive to time and the transport infrastructure was decent I could squeeze in another 1 or 2 a day, but after a few failed attempts to get everyone to follow my timeline I realised I was driving myself loopy. It's like herding kittens; it never works. Keep this in mind: I'm going nowhere outside my condo and I find 3-a-day to be a busy yet manageable day.
In my opinion way too many. You'll spent hours in traffic as well as the girls. You'll need (probably) a little time for yourself. And, if you have a date with a girl at 5 pm like I had today, I considered myself lucky when she arrived at 5. 45 pm. Late just 45 minutes, that's quite good. For Pinay standards.
!You were extremely lucky Eks that your girl arrived "only" 45 minutes late.
Today (Friday in Manila) was an horrific traffic day. I was planning dinner at the seafood restaurants on Macapagal Blvd (near MOA) today. We left home (in Ortigas) at 4. 45 pm and arrived at 7. 50 pm. I kid you not. I was ready to pull the pin and go home after 70 or so minutes but we were stuck in EDSA traffic with no way to get out of it.
So I agree with Hutsori. Make sure it is at a single venue. Those who talk about lining up multiple dates that involves ANY travel need to factor in the multiple variables including the day of the week and the time of day. Skogis can clearly do it; FF is also a pro. If you are a newbie, forget it.
Member #4387
06-06-14, 15:10
When reading his post I get a feeling he wants to have a safety net if some girls don't show or are not to his attraction. If they are not to his attraction he obviously did not do a good pre screening job, hehe. So even if 4/5 girls would be perfect it is almost not doable due to the various things which comes into play as other BM's meantioning.
In my case I tried a couple of trips ago (7 days stay, arrived late and left early so actually only 5 hole days) doing 3 a day as a small project on my own and even if I probably could have made it work it affected my alonetime to much (unwinding, evidence removals, take a mallwalk (feeling in the beauties to get a dirty mind for next session, showers, drinks and foods). I came out with 17/18 sessions incl one girl I did have over 3 times (as she was very horny and good at what I was interested in and lived close so could arriive on short notice). In short, even if some days i will have 3(if they live or work in Makati area or happens to work as callcentergirls in Spikes, which is the next building from where i mostly stay), i will go for 2 in average a day. Then i get more time for baby monetoring and alone time.
No, let the girls do the travelling job and you meet them outside hotel or only 50 steps outside at the most (works fine where I mostly live, almost sharing entrance with a huge mall). This is better for heartrate and more comfy for you. If we can try be a bit cheeky here, the girls need you more than you need them:-)
Steve Nash
06-07-14, 18:47
I didn't know girls in Manila were always late, in my experience all the girls I met in Manila were either on time or came early to the time we set-up to meet, in fact I was the one who was always late (even thought we meet one or two blocks from my hotel). This is the reason why I want to set-up 4 dates a day, (two in the morning and two at night) if the first one is very late and my second date is on the way I will tell her that she is too late and that I have work to do, I will still meet her maybe eat some breakfast but if she is late she will pass from my first option to my second option (so I will meet her another day), I hate unpunctual people (even though I'm one of them).
So then I will meet my second date, like Skogis said the second date is just as my safety net, the same way if I don't find her attractive, I will still see her but make the date short so I can see my second date. Hopefully this won't happen since I will be doing a screening job in skype, but it can still happen, or if she is not a DTF type of girl I will just make the date short.
If we like eachother and I want to spend time with her I will cancel my second date and make it for the next day, I done this before and so far they seem OK with it, if she gets [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and doesn't want to meet that's her loss, I will call the next girl. People might think I'm mean by doing this but I don't see it that way because I will still meet her the next day as my first option, treat her good and give her a compensation afterwards, is not like I don't give a shit about her.
Which comes to my second point, I don't like meeting woman for 1 or 2 hours only just to fuck her, I like the whole process of getting to know her, make her attracted to me, if it happens fast great if it doesn't is OK as long as we end in bed at the end of the day, 4-5 hours with each girl that's what I like. The same process will happen at night with the difference that she will spend the night at my place. So that's why I said I will plan 4 dates per day, but at the end it will be only 2 dates per day.
The meeting place of the dates will be close to where I'm staying within a couple of blocks, most likely a mall, coffee shop, or bar when is at night. Sometimes I will meet her at my place so she can cook for me (I done this before and is possible).
So basically my dates will be around 5 hours (2 hours getting to know eachother and 3 hours in bed), of course this is not set in stone, I can adapt and change it on the flow, but my goal is to hook up with 2 girls per day, BUT if I find a great girl (great in looks and great in personality) I might stay with her the whole day and she will be the prime candidate to de-throne the girl I'm planning to take to Boracay which is someone similar in looks and personality that I'm communicating now.
You must live in a sex prison Mr. Nash. You're making your trip very anal retentive and ovary complicated.
...in my experience all the girls I met in Manila were either on time or came early to the time we set-up to meet...
Where is this Manila you speak of? Switzerland?
Where is this Manila you speak of? Switzerland?Huts it depends. On the one hand traffic is an absolute *BAITCH* in Manila leading to unintended delays even with the best of intentions. If your talking about a poorer girl coming from some distance lateness is common. If you're talking about an employed girl or student living nearby in Makati / Mandaluyong / Guadelupe etc then timeliness is far more likely. The newer generation classier girls do seem a bit better about it (generalisation). My 22 yr old spinner salon manager text's me yesterday "What time I come. I'm always late". She arrived 30 min's early. But I do agree to warn newbie to factor in delays.
AV.
GoodEnough
06-09-14, 08:14
Huts it depends. On the one hand traffic is an absolute *BAITCH* in Manila leading to unintended delays even with the best of intentions. If your talking about a poorer girl coming from some distance lateness is common. If you're talking about an employed girl or student living nearby in Makati / Mandaluyong / Guadelupe etc then timeliness is far more likely. The newer generation classier girls do seem a bit better about it (generalisation). My 22 yr old spinner salon manager text's me yesterday "What time I come. I'm always late". She arrived 30 min's early. But I do agree to warn newbie to factor in delays.
AV.Last week, I was with a colleague for a meeting in Makati in the Greenbelt 1 area. Once the meeting was over, I called for an Uber car, amd had the driver drop me at the Fairmont before taking her back to her house in Makati. She
texted me that it had taken her an hour and ten minutes to drive the 5. 2 kms. Back to her house. It's not possible to plan with any accuracy for the insanity of Manila traffic. In my view, it's one of the biggest factors in making this one of the world's least livable cities.
GE.
. . ., SNIP > . . If you're talking about a poorer girl coming from some distance lateness is common. If you're talking about an employed girl or student living nearby in Makati / Mandaluyong / Guadelupe etc then timeliness is far more likely. The newer generation classier girls do seem a bit better about it (generalisation). There has been a bit of a blitz about Filipino time on the media lately (especially radio and TV).
I have noticed that the times announced on the radio lately correspond to my watch / CP time instead of the 5 to 10 minute advance time that used to be the norm.
Some prominent businessmen have also stated publicly how embarrassed they often are about late colleagues when dealing with foreigners (who are punctual) and there is a general urging of pinoys to be on time.
As AV says, the newer generation classier girls are learning the "new" rules, but the poorer and usually lesser educated girl coming from a longer distance is in the hands of the traffic gods and anything can happen.
LiveLifeGuy
06-10-14, 08:50
Back from 3 weeks holiday to Manila, BKK, Laos and Pattaya. Stayed at best Western La Corona in Ermita. Ermita is a shit hole in my experience except convenient location for pickup from La cafe. Stayed 5 nights. First night had 2 beautiful late twenties single moms from La Cafe. Amazing experience, I was surprised that Manila girls can hold a great conversation inside and outside bed. Being used to Thailand scene for years it came as a pleasant surprise. Second night had a 19 year old from craiglist. Ok experience nothing great except she was really petite and inexperienced. Third night had 2 ladies from la Cafe again. Wonderful and inexpensive experience. 4th night repeated the girls from 1st night for an amazing encounter again. Last night was just brilliant. I wish I met her earlier in the trip. Rocked up to la cafe a bit early around 7-8 pm. Met this young 24 years old sitting quietlyin a corner. Struck a conversation and she turned out to be a cashier from some place in mall of Asia. Bought her a beer. She started to loosen up and then ordered some food. Another beer and she was a bit tipsy and wanted to go back to my hotel. I wanted to stay a bit longer in the bar as it was still very early but she was showing all signs of genuinely being really horny. She stated that she has not had sex for a long time which I was reluctant to beleived. She said she only comes to this bar on rare occasions and sometimes just to sit and relax and listen to music as she enjoys the environment. So back to hotel and she was the wildest girl I ever met in a bar. She fucked my brains out in the first round. A truly amazing experience. We napped for a while and then ready for round which I cannot belive that I had sex with her without protection. Have to do all the tests now as I am worried but what an amazing experience. Can never forget her. Got her number paid her around 2500 pesos. She was happy as she was only expecting 2000. If I ever return to Manila she is going to be the reason.
Last week, I was with a colleague for a meeting in Makati in the Greenbelt 1 area. Once the meeting was over, I called for an Uber car, amd had the driver drop me at the Fairmont before taking her back to her house in Makati. She texted me that it had taken her an hour and ten minutes to drive the 5. 2 kms. Back to her house. It's not possible to plan with any accuracy for the insanity of Manila traffic. In my view, it's one of the biggest factors in making this one of the world's least livable cities.Fully agree GE, the new president has cleaned up the look of the place & is doing his best to get people off Pinoy time but the flooding, the pollution & the traffic chaos just gets worse & worse. I refuse to go there any more except transit to NAIA.
AV.
LukeSkywalker
06-11-14, 03:30
I picked up a young girl in LA Cafe. She was a student from another island, ran out of money and just started at LA Cafe the first day. She did not even know the rates that other girls were charging.
The very nice thing about Pinays is they speak good English. I find Pinays nice, sweet, gentle and connect with them much better than girls in China, Thailand, Vietnam, or Cambodia, with whom I could not communicate even the simplest things. Relationships without the simplest communication, even with Miss Universe, can be very shallow and would usually become boring quickly.
She stayed with me a few days, showing me around Manila. We went out to eat, shopping hand in hand like any couple in love. She did turn a few heads on the streets. The vendors kept complimenting that I had a sexy, good-looking GF. She's not as pretty as the girls in China. Her body was lean and tight with a very tight pussy. She reminded me of a college GF years ago.
This young student did like sex a lot. She really turned me on. We were screwing again and again. After the first fuck, I got so turned on with this young girl that I fucked her bareback. She was 1 of the only 2 pro girls that I had bareback sex with my whole life. I did not do anything kinky with her, just straight sex. But she did give me a very good GFE. Lucky I did not catch anything. My dick is still hanging here. Hehe. I was afraid she may get pregnant. Hope she knows what she's doing. I have her tel and email. I was calling her a few months ago when they were hit with the typhoon and flood.
After fucking this young LA Cafe student for a few days, I found out that there are younger and much better-looking girls in the casas spread out in Ermita and Makati, catering to the locals. I was beside myself looking at some of the prettiest and sweetest-looking young girls in the casas. They make LA Cafe girls look like hardened old hos. I picked up a young girl. She looked like a movie star. We went out to dinner and everyone was looking at her. Had sex with her many times, sleeping embracing her perfectly sexy body with her beautiful soft skin all night.
Manila is my favorite place for girls.
Back from 3 weeks holiday to Manila, BKK, Laos and Pattaya. Stayed at best Western La Corona in Ermita. Ermita is a shit hole in my experience except convenient location for pickup from La cafe. Stayed 5 nights. First night had 2 beautiful late twenties single moms from La Cafe. Amazing experience, I was surprised that Manila girls can hold a great conversation inside and outside bed. Being used to Thailand scene for years it came as a pleasant surprise. Second night had a 19 year old from craiglist. Ok experience nothing great except she was really petite and inexperienced. Third night had 2 ladies from la Cafe again. Wonderful and inexpensive experience. 4th night repeated the girls from 1st night for an amazing encounter again. Last night was just brilliant. I wish I met her earlier in the trip. Rocked up to la cafe a bit early around 7-8 pm. Met this young 24 years old sitting quietlyin a corner. Struck a conversation and she turned out to be a cashier from some place in mall of Asia. Bought her a beer. She started to loosen up and then ordered some food. Another beer and she was a bit tipsy and wanted to go back to my hotel. I wanted to stay a bit longer in the bar as it was still very early but she was showing all signs of genuinely being really horny. She stated that she has not had sex for a long time which I was reluctant to beleived. She said she only comes to this bar on rare occasions and sometimes just to sit and relax and listen to music as she enjoys the environment. So back to hotel and she was the wildest girl I ever met in a bar. She fucked my brains out in the first round. A truly amazing experience. We napped for a while and then ready for round which I cannot belive that I had sex with her without protection. Have to do all the tests now as I am worried but what an amazing experience. Can never forget her. Got her number paid her around 2500 pesos. She was happy as she was only expecting 2000. If I ever return to Manila she is going to be the reason.
Manila is my favorite place for girls.Right on, Luke. Nice report. I personally prefer Cebu but I am equally certain there are gems all over these 7000 islands; many more to come as we age.
Mickthemanus
06-11-14, 20:59
After fucking this young LA Cafe student for a few days, I found out that there are younger and much better-looking girls in the casas spread out in Ermita and Makati, catering to the locals. I was beside myself looking at some of the prettiest and sweetest-looking young girls in the casas. They make LA Cafe girls look like hardened old hos. I picked up a young girl. She looked like a movie star. We went out to dinner and everyone was looking at her. Had sex with her many times, sleeping embracing her perfectly sexy body with her beautiful soft skin all night.
Where are these "casas" in Ermita? And how do they work?
Mick
Pinaypounder
06-11-14, 22:01
LUKE this is your FATHER.
Where are these casas and what are the rates?
PP.
Fast Eddie 48
06-11-14, 22:12
LUKE this is your FATHER.
Where are these casas and what are the rates?
PP.To Pinaypounder.
So The Lurker is your son I feel sorry for you we been reading the same post over and over again without any useful Information, the lurker got too much damn time in his life so sad.
Fast eddie 48.
LukeSkywalker
06-11-14, 23:14
If Pinay Pounder is my father, he must be pushing 100 years old. Hehe.
I PM him a few better casas in Makati and Ermita. Hopefully he will find some good-looking young girls who would completely satisfy his lust.
Pinays sure make me very horny with their tight, lean, petite bodies, their nice, sweet, gentle personalities, and they are just a lot cuter, sexier, far more desirable and fuckable speaking English.
I fucked 2 LA Cafe girls 7 times within 12 hours arriving in Manila and checking into the hotel at 2 PM. LA Cafe is very convenient that you can always find some fuckable girls there any time of the day.
LUKE this is your FATHER.
Where are these casas and what are the rates?
PP.
LukeSkywalker
06-12-14, 00:56
Fart's father must have been the dumbest $$$HOLE on earth.
To Pinaypounder.
So The Lurker is your son I feel sorry for you we been reading the same post over and over again without any useful Information, the lurker got too much damn time in his life so sad.
Fast eddie 48.
Where are these "casas" in Ermita? And how do they work?
MickMick I checked out the casa's years ago in Manila. These are places where the locals go for a grind at 200 PHP a time. What I saw didn't impress me one bit. Its only one rung above gritty street walkers as far as I could see. Think grubby mattress with no sheet in a hot dirty room in a dangerous (to tourists) neighbourhood. The girls I saw looked anything but happy & the reports I got from guys about the service was not thrilling. These reports of wondrously beautiful girls in casa's I would take with a grain of salt. By all means ask a Taxi driver in Ermita to take you to 'girls' and report back. I'd love to know if there is a hidden oasis we all didn't know about. Through social contacts I did know one or two higher end girls who worked out of relatively classy apartments in Pasay but these girls, despite their undeniable looks, just radiated hatred & loathing for what they were doing.
Let us know how you get on?
Cheers.
AV.
FreebieFan
06-12-14, 02:19
Mick I checked out the casa's years ago in Manila. These reports of wondrously beautiful girls in casa's I would take with a grain of salt. By all means ask a Taxi driver in Ermita to take you to 'girls' and report back. I'd love to know if there is a hidden oasis we all didn't know about.
Cheers.
AV.On my very first visit to Manila, back in early 80's, I arrived jet lagged and horny. I was staying in Manila hotel.
Found a taxi driver and asked him to take me to a casa. Found a good array of ladies, can't recall the price. A sweetie stayed with me for the night. Next day, repeat. The ladies were fine fine fine. Next day I discovered the original Firehouse and Ermita.
However as with many things over past 30 years, price has no doubt gone up, and we all know what happens to quality.
Despite being old enough to be a few peoples father, I'm 100% sure I have no male offspring on this or any other boards. LOL.
Key Master
06-12-14, 02:22
Back from 3 weeks holiday to Manila, BKK, Laos and Pattaya. Stayed at best Western La Corona in Ermita. Ermita is a shit hole in my experience except convenient location for pickup from La cafe. Stayed 5 nights. First night had 2 beautiful late twenties single moms from La Cafe. Amazing experience, I was surprised that Manila girls can hold a great conversation inside and outside bed. Being used to Thailand scene for years it came as a pleasant surprise. Second night had a 19 year old from craiglist. Ok experience nothing great except she was really petite and inexperienced. Third night had 2 ladies from la Cafe again. Wonderful and inexpensive experience. 4th night repeated the girls from 1st night for an amazing encounter again. Last night was just brilliant. I wish I met her earlier in the trip. Rocked up to la cafe a bit early around 7-8 pm. Met this young 24 years old sitting quietlyin a corner. Struck a conversation and she turned out to be a cashier from some place in mall of Asia. Bought her a beer. She started to loosen up and then ordered some food. Another beer and she was a bit tipsy and wanted to go back to my hotel. I wanted to stay a bit longer in the bar as it was still very early but she was showing all signs of genuinely being really horny. She stated that she has not had sex for a long time which I was reluctant to beleived. She said she only comes to this bar on rare occasions and sometimes just to sit and relax and listen to music as she enjoys the environment. So back to hotel and she was the wildest girl I ever met in a bar. She fucked my brains out in the first round. A truly amazing experience. We napped for a while and then ready for round which I cannot belive that I had sex with her without protection. Have to do all the tests now as I am worried but what an amazing experience. Can never forget her. Got her number paid her around 2500 pesos. She was happy as she was only expecting 2000. If I ever return to Manila she is going to be the reason.Hey, nice report. I have found some of my greatest treasures in LA Cafe also. Yes there are a lot of pros there, but if you are lucky and patient, you can obviously find some great new ones non professionals in there, but I don't find one there every night, that's for sure. Got to be little lucky also.
This link might help those of you who are into the high-end club scene in Manila, are aged 25-ish and upwards, dress well and for whom the budget is not a big deal.
http://www.expatch.org/2013/08/15/the-best-of-manilas-high-end-clubbing-scene/
BrasilSoccer0
06-12-14, 10:07
I'm so damn tempted maan.
I get updates automatically from this thread cause I am considering it for my next trip but still can't make my darn mind. One part of me says just return to Colombia, Cuba or Moldova again where I am familiar with the layout of the land and game.
Yet another part of me says "of to new horizons" to Fellipines, Dominican Republic or Ukraine. Yes Ukraine.
Another source that I use for info on Phillipines is a YouTube channel from a guy who moved there and blogs about everything a monger needs to know.
Keep up the good work fellas.
BrasilSoccer0
06-12-14, 10:10
Forgot to add "Madagascar" to the "of to new horizons" list.
BTW, can anyone recommend a good source for info especially like a YouTube channel?
Yet another part of me says "of to new horizons" to Fellipines, Dominican Republic or Ukraine. Yes Ukraine.
Keep up the good work fellas.
LukeSkywalker
06-12-14, 10:17
These casas are houses in residential areas, large rooms with tile floors, flat lighting and a bunch of old, worn chairs, benches, couches against the walls. There was no mention of bedrooms for sex on the premises. Everything was take out only.
Girls are young, fresh, clean, good-looking, wearing casual street clothes with little make up, just like girls next door. Their natural and youthful beauty was very attractive to me.
Went to one in Ermita on UN Ave. , within 2 blocks of the US Embassy. It was around 6 PM and had about 20 girls, most were smaller, skinny and not so hot, but they would still look much better than the old girls in LA Cafe or in AC bars . I was told more would arrive later. There was no client while I was there.
Went to one in Makati. The room was a bigger but plain with about 40 girls. Some were watching TV, some chatting with their friends, like they were at home. There was only 1 other Pinoys shopping, chatting with the girls. He was moving around talking to the girls, but he was not touching any one. So I kept my hands off them.
I had my eyes on a few stunners, tall, lean, pretty with nice skin. Quickly decided to take a sweet, young, tall, skinny, light-skinned girl before the Pinoy had a chance. Her pretty face with full, pink, pouty lips reminded me of the young Natasha Kinsky in the movies "Tess. " She was that pretty. And she did not disappoint in the nude. Her body was slim, sexy, supple, fully-developed with soft, unblemished skin; her boobs were round, perky see sized at least. The owner wanted 4000 PHP for all night. My local friend bargained it down to 3000.
She was quiet, a little shy. I was very impressed with her, so took her to a fancy seafood restaurant on Adriatico where seafood was sold by the 100 grams. She did not eat much. I convinced her to drink half a beer. I should have asked her what and where she wanted to eat and given her a treat.
Would have been much more fun if the casas had decorated their places, play a little music, had the girls in bikinis doing a little dancing and flirting, serving drinks to clients. Would be nice to sit around drinking a few beers, watching the girls before making your selection like casas in Malaysia, Indonesia and South America. But Manila's casas are very plain and basic operations. I suggest the bros bring along cold beers and invite the owners and the girls to party. It may be fun.
The casas all look very bare and basic, like temporary quarters. I suspect they get raided frequently and may have to move around.
BrasilSoccer0
06-12-14, 11:21
What is the fair donation for an all nighter from 2000 till 1100 next day with a natural beauty non-pro young and fresh like students?? Remember these are women who don't frequent the pro bars. So I'll have to see them out from colleges, beachs or malls. Any suggestion?
These casas are houses in residential areas, large rooms with tile floors, flat lighting and a bunch of old, worn chairs, benches, couches against the walls. There was no mention of bedrooms for sex on the premises. Everything was take out only.
Girls are young, fresh, clean, good-looking, wearing casual street clothes with little make up, just like girls next door. Their natural and youthful beauty was very attractive to me.
Went to one in Ermita on UN Ave. , within 2 blocks of the US Embassy. It was around 6 PM and had about 20 girls, most were smaller, skinny and not so hot, but they would still look much better than the old girls in LA Cafe or in AC bars . I was told more would arrive later. There was no client while I was there.
Went to one in Makati. The room was a bigger but plain with about 40 girls. Some were watching TV, some chatting with their friends, like they were at home. There was only 1 other Pinoys shopping, chatting with the girls. He was moving around talking to the girls, but he was not touching any one. So I kept my hands off them.
I had my eyes on a few stunners, tall, lean, pretty with nice skin. Quickly decided to take a sweet, young, tall, skinny, light-skinned girl before the Pinoy had a chance. Her pretty face with full, pink, pouty lips reminded me of the young Natasha Kinsky in the movies "Tess. " She was that pretty. And she did not disappoint in the nude. Her body was slim, sexy, supple, fully-developed with soft, unblemished skin; her boobs were round, perky see sized at least. The owner wanted 4000 PHP for all night. My local friend bargained it down to 3000.
She was quiet, a little shy. I was very impressed with her, so took her to a fancy seafood restaurant on Adriatico where seafood was sold by the 100 grams. She did not eat much. I convinced her to drink half a beer. I should have asked her what and where she wanted to eat and given her a treat.
Would have been much more fun if the casas had decorated their places, play a little music, had the girls in bikinis doing a little dancing and flirting, serving drinks to clients. Would be nice to sit around drinking a few beers, watching the girls before making your selection like casas in Malaysia, Indonesia and South America. But Manila's casas are very plain and basic operations. I suggest the bros bring along cold beers and invite the owners and the girls to party. It may be fun.
The casas all look very bare and basic, like temporary quarters. I suspect they get raided frequently and may have to move around.
What is the fair donation for an all nighter from 2000 till 1100 next day with a natural beauty non-pro young and fresh like students?? Remember these are women who don't frequent the pro bars. So I'll have to see them out from colleges, beachs or malls. Any suggestion?If she's a student I should think start her off with donations of a blue note (1,000), don't worry she'll get her hooks into you if you see her more than once LOL!
AV.
these casas are houses in residential areas, large rooms with tile floors, flat lighting and a bunch of old, worn chairs, benches, couches against the walls. there was no mention of bedrooms for sex on the premises. everything was take out only.
girls are young, fresh, clean, good-looking, wearing casual street clothes with little make up, just like girls next door. their natural and youthful beauty was very attractive to me.
went to one in ermita on un ave. , within 2 blocks of the us embassy. it was around 6 pm and had about 20 girls, most were smaller, skinny and not so hot, but they would still look much better than the old girls in la cafe or in ac bars . i was told more would arrive later. there was no client while i was there.
went to one in makati. the room was a bigger but plain with about 40 girls. some were watching tv, some chatting with their friends, like they were at home. there was only 1 other pinoys shopping, chatting with the girls. he was moving around talking to the girls, but he was not touching any one. so i kept my hands off them.
i had my eyes on a few stunners, tall, lean, pretty with nice skin. quickly decided to take a sweet, young, tall, skinny, light-skinned girl before the pinoy had a chance. her pretty face with full, pink, pouty lips reminded me of the young natasha kinsky in the movies "tess. " she was that pretty. and she did not disappoint in the nude. her body was slim, sexy, supple, fully-developed with soft, unblemished skin; her boobs were round, perky see sized at least. the owner wanted 4000 php for all night. my local friend bargained it down to 3000.
she was quiet, a little shy. i was very impressed with her, so took her to a fancy seafood restaurant on adriatico where seafood was sold by the 100 grams. she did not eat much. i convinced her to drink half a beer. i should have asked her what and where she wanted to eat and given her a treat.
would have been much more fun if the casas had decorated their places, play a little music, had the girls in bikinis doing a little dancing and flirting, serving drinks to clients. would be nice to sit around drinking a few beers, watching the girls before making your selection like casas in malaysia, indonesia and south america. but manila's casas are very plain and basic operations. i suggest the bros bring along cold beers and invite the owners and the girls to party. it may be fun.
the casas all look very bare and basic, like temporary quarters. i suspect they get raided frequently and may have to move around.i have been to a couple of casa in ermita area. one was on del pilar. it was funny how i knew the place. i was buying some mangoes from a sidewalk seller and she asked if i want girls. normally i ignore them but this time i started asking her things like are they pretty and young etc. she called a lady and asked her to take me there. the lady took me to some side street to a small shack of a house. since it was morning girls were half asleep. there were 8 girls. i chose one who was pretty with nice boobs. my impression was these were definitely trafficked girls from the provinces. certainly a chain of pimps involved since all of them look fresh, **** with some of them no i. the.
looks like they are mainly for the local rich people who treasure young girls. the amount i paid was 2500 till next morning.
i had to take this girl shopping to buy a nice outfit and a nice purse to take her to dinner. her jeans and blouse and handbag looked like she was a panhandler. obviously very poor. i wish these pimps take better care of these girls.
she was ok in bed in the sense i could do anything i wanted and any number times. i treated her nicely and she was very appreciative. i did not talk to her about the circumstances that forced her into prostitution as i did not wanted to be the righteous person.
these casas move around quickly because local people inform the police.
I tried Harrison and Robertson malls today based on this thread. Harrison was worse than I expected. Looks like a ghetto slum mall out of the worst part of the US. What's worse I didn't see a single girl who gave a hint of working or pimping. Robertson was much better and I saw a few pretty women but 99 percent were either with family or boyfriends. Walked all up and down the malls without luck. Did meet a Korean tourist in the Starbucks at Robertson though and plan to meet at my hotel tomorrow believe it or not. She's older than I usually go for but oh well. Anyway what am I missing in these malls?
Thanks
LukeSkywalker
06-12-14, 16:46
The young student from LA Cafe was happy with 1500 PHP per day, plus a promise for tip. That was 24-hour days. She stayed with me as a GF and tour guide for a few days.
Casas in Ermita wanted 2000 PHP all night, probably would do 1500 quickly.
Casas in Makati had much better-looking girls, started out with 4000 PHP all night, but after 5 minutes, took 3000.
For freelancing students, I think 1000 all night plus meals, booze and entertainment is about fair. Give them DF kisses and a big tip (not the little one hanging in your crotch) when they leave.
What is the fair donation for an all nighter from 2000 till 1100 next day with a natural beauty non-pro young and fresh like students?? Remember these are women who don't frequent the pro bars. So I'll have to see them out from colleges, beachs or malls. Any suggestion?
LukeSkywalker
06-12-14, 17:02
The casa girls I took were all polished city girls, 21-22 YO, polite, soft and well-spoken in English, nice, clean, well-groomed, good-smelling, nice hair, nice manicure, pedicure etc. I had good chemistry with girls in the Phil because of their soft, sweet and gentle expressions in English.
The few girls I pulled from LA Cafe were also very nice and gentle. One clearly enjoyed sex and was resting after the first session. When I got on top of her trying to penetrate her again, she said in a very nice and gentle way, that she was sore, and needed a break. Her gentleness turned me on so much that I fucked her 4 times within the first 3 hours after landing in Manila, without needs for medicinal aids.... Hehe. She was that sexy. I paid her 1200 PHP as agreed. She asked for a tip but I declined. No problemos.
The young student from LA Cafe was horny; her pussy was always moist. She actually initiated sex most of the time. After the first fuck with condom, she immediately blew me bareback, then got on top of me and pumped away... She was moaning, sighing, talking dirty and sexy as I plunged into her tight pussy...
I ran across quite a few Pinays who wanted rest between sex. In contrast, most LT girls in China would want to fuck again and again, one right after the other.
I have been to a couple of casa in Ermita area. One was on Del Pilar. It was funny how I knew the place. I was buying some mangoes from
I had to take this girl shopping to buy a nice outfit and a nice purse to take her to dinner. Her jeans and blouse and handbag looked like she was a panhandler. Obviously very poor. I wish these pimps take better care of these girls.
These casas move around quickly because local people inform the police.
BrasilSoccer0
06-12-14, 17:55
Amavida and LukeSkyWalker.
Are you all saying a freelance or regular student will be happy with 1000 plus food and drinks for 24 hrs?
I like to "trust but verify" so are these girls from the country side who live in shitty government dorms while attending college in the big city?? I ran across this scenario in a province in Cuba and loved it!
Can someone else confirm or deny what has been said based from your own experience or indirectly extrapolate?
LukeSkywalker
06-12-14, 19:13
You should be able to find, via DIA, Craigslist, casas etc. , many nice, young, sweet and sexy girls in Manilla who would do all nighters for 1000 pesos, unlimited sex in any style your heart desires.
This is very good deal considering only few girls in Southern China's ghettos would want to do all night for about US $150. Then they would stipulate that all night means maximum 3 fucks, time to sleep, and leaving at 6 AM. I just hate those ornery girls.
If you have not been to the Phil, I urge you to try it. You may find exceptionally good and sexy experiences compared to other countries. I always got GFE, bareback BJ, bare back sex ect. Pinays are very willing partners in sex.
I am not into kinky sex like anal or toys and games ect. So don't know about PSE. Some of those young girls did show a lot of pleasures with verbal, facial, moaning sighing, shrieking expressions.
Amavida and LukeSkyWalker.
Are you all saying a freelance or regular student will be happy with 1000 plus food and drinks for 24 hrs?
I like to "trust but verify" so are these girls from the country side who live in shitty government dorms while attending college in the big city?? I ran across this scenario in a province in Cuba and loved it!
Can someone else confirm or deny what has been said based from your own experience or indirectly extrapolate?
Pip Jaeger
06-12-14, 19:43
are you all saying a freelance or regular student will be happy with 1000 plus food and drinks for 24 hrs?
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can someone else confirm or deny what has been said based from your own experience or indirectly extrapolate?i can confirm it. some girls, especially those from the province, will even be happy with 500 p a day above and beyond what you spend for food, drinks, etc. think about it this way: the daily wage is about one third of what you would pay them (based on 1 k) and they don't have to actually do any work. they also get to eat well, stay in a comfortable room with air-con and hot water, watch tv and play on the internet whenever they want. in addition, having a foreign "bf" will often elevate their status among their peer group and get them out of doing any chores around their own house or relieve the boredom of staying in a dorm room that's about size of a broom closet.
i also take them shopping and do it one of two ways; if she's independent enough (or if i have 2 girls like i usually do) i'll take them to a market, give them x amount of pesos and cut them loose. i'll go somewhere nearby and have a beer or cup of coffee (they'll usually get better prices on products when they shop at a market without a "porigner" or i'll take them to a mall, set a budget. say 2,000 p. and let them choose what they want.
and btw, you'd be surprised how many girls i've turned loose in a market or mall that'll not only come back with an armload of stuff, but on top that also give me the change too, lol.
BrasilSoccer0
06-12-14, 22:07
This is all I really need: sweet natural girls, GFE, healthy fresh food and the nice beaches and a good location.
PukiMonster
06-13-14, 00:04
Last time I was in Manila, there were no residential houses on UN Avenue within 2 or 3 blocks of the USA Embassy, where I had to go many times.
"These casas are houses in residential areas, large rooms with tile floors, flat lighting and a bunch of old, worn chairs, benches, couches against the walls. Went to one in Ermita on UN Ave., within 2 blocks of the US Embassy."
Last time I was in Manila, there were no residential houses on UN Avenue within 2 or 3 blocks of the USA Embassy, where I had to go many times.
"These casas are houses in residential areas, large rooms with tile floors, flat lighting and a bunch of old, worn chairs, benches, couches against the walls. Went to one in Ermita on UN Ave. , within 2 blocks of the US Embassy."I also know of no houses on that stretch of UN. Been down that street I dunno how many times. Its all commercial there.
LukeSkywalker
06-13-14, 05:31
The one casa on UN ave is 1 block East and half a block North of the US Embassy.
It's on the ground floor of a multilple-story apartment building, not tin-roof shanties.
There are no stores or commercial / industrial buildings in that area. The casa occupy the first floor with young girls lounging on sofas. For all intent and purposes, it is a residential unit.
The one casa on UN ave is 1 block East and half a block North of the US Embassy.
It's on the ground floor of a multilple-story apartment building, not tin-roof shanties.
There are no stores or commercial / industrial buildings in that area. The casa occupy the first floor with young girls lounging on sofas. For all intent and purposes, it is a residential unit.One block east is Alhambra St. If it's north of UN Ave it should be easy enough to find as Alhambra ends one block down from there at Kalaw Ave.
LukeSkywalker
06-13-14, 12:08
I PM you the address and phone number of the place.
More accurately it's on United Nations Ave. , in the middle of the block, half block North of the US Embassy and half a block East of Alhambra.
Perhaps you can find other casas with better-looking girls for us...
One block east is Alhambra St. If it's north of UN Ave it should be easy enough to find as Alhambra ends one block down from there at Kalaw Ave.
Anyone seen her in Manila. Perhaps MBC or Amazonia? Was watching a youtube video of AC / Manila just to get in the mood for my upcoming trip. Less than three weeks! About shit myself when I saw her. We go back a way. Look up my previous post about her. Would love to hook up with her again if only for one day. Let me know or PM me if you have her number. Thanks bros.
JB.
LukeSkywalker
06-13-14, 21:16
For beaches you should go to Cebu or Palawan where the water is clean.
With sewage from Manila pouring into the bay for hundreds of year, the bay smells just like a cesspool. I would not recommend dipping your feet in it, lest you may pick up diseases. Yet there are people who fish along the boardwalk and presumably eat their catch.
Further South from New Asia mall and beyond, the water does not smell as bad, but I suspect still carry very high bacteria content. Just go to smaller remote islands and take a few girls along for beach funs.
It's probably cleaner and safer to suck Pinays' pussies and asses than dunking in the bay. Hehehe.
Buy a few compact High-Definition camcorders and record your sessions with the sexy girls writhing, thrashing around in pleasure, grunting, whining, moaning, shrieking, making their sexy noises. Believe me those are the most erotic materials you will ever get your hands on. Hehe.
This is all I really need: sweet natural girls, GFE, healthy fresh food and the nice beaches and a good location.
For beaches you should go to Cebu or Palawan where the water is clean.
With sewage from Manila pouring into the bay for hundreds of year, the bay smells just like a cesspool. I would not recommend dipping your feet in it, lest you may pick up diseases. Yet there are people who fish along the boardwalk and presumably eat their catch.
Buy a few compact High-Definition camcorders and record your sessions with the sexy girls writhing, thrashing around in pleasure, grunting, whining, moaning, shrieking, making their sexy noises. Believe me those are the most erotic materials you will ever get your hands on. Hehe.Is Palawan a good destination? Definitely lots of great diving and beaches there. If there is good punting too, then lead the way.
Mickthemanus
06-13-14, 22:05
Mick I checked out the casa's years ago in Manila. These are places where the locals go for a grind at 200 PHP a time. What I saw didn't impress me one bit. Its only one rung above gritty street walkers as far as I could see. Think grubby mattress with no sheet in a hot dirty room in a dangerous (to tourists) neighbourhood. The girls I saw looked anything but happy & the reports I got from guys about the service was not thrilling. These reports of wondrously beautiful girls in casa's I would take with a grain of salt. By all means ask a Taxi driver in Ermita to take you to 'girls' and report back. I'd love to know if there is a hidden oasis we all didn't know about. Through social contacts I did know one or two higher end girls who worked out of relatively classy apartments in Pasay but these girls, despite their undeniable looks, just radiated hatred & loathing for what they were doing.
Let us know how you get on?
Cheers.
AV.Thanks AV! I think I'll stay with the La Cafe girls. In case I go for a search and find a casa I will report back.
Mick
LukeSkywalker
06-13-14, 23:11
Cebu seems good but Palawan may have a very small selection of girls. You don't want to go to the islands then have to waste lots of time finding companies or finding unsuitable companies or none at all.
It's much better to spend a few days in Manila "interviewing" the girls, to make sure you will have the perfect sex partners on the beach and in the bed. Most of these girls would love a vaction to the island.
Is Palawan a good destination? Definitely lots of great diving and beaches there. If there is good punting too, then lead the way.
Asian Rain
06-14-14, 09:35
One block east is Alhambra St. If it's north of UN Ave it should be easy enough to find as Alhambra ends one block down from there at Kalaw Ave.You seem to be close. If you verify the availability of such fantastic talent, please share. My experience with casas is more like Amivada's, so would be pleasantly surprised with a gem. Enjoy, AsianRain.
You seem to be close. If you verify the availability of such fantastic talent, please share. My experience with casas is more like Amivada's, so would be pleasantly surprised with a gem. Enjoy, AsianRain.That's Mr. Skywalker's find; he posted an FR of the place the other day. His cryptic directions at first confused me a bit because UN Avenue is an east-west street and it is already north of the US embassy. To go 1/2 block further north led me to believe his casa was on a side street, such as Alhambra which is a north-south street. His later post clarified things.
LukeSkywalker
06-14-14, 15:44
I went to Robinson mall in Ermita and the one in Angeles City. Found many nice, clean, sweet, good-looking girls, but they were almost always with families and friends, none would hang around furtively eyeing guys for tricks.
Girls in malls are very attractive, but I don't know how the bros found them.
I tried Harrison and Robertson malls today based on this thread. Harrison was worse than I expected. Looks like a ghetto slum mall out of the worst part of the US. What's worse I didn't see a single girl who gave a hint of working or pimping. Robertson was much better and I saw a few pretty women but 99 percent were either with family or boyfriends. Walked all up and down the malls without luck. Did meet a Korean tourist in the Starbucks at Robertson though and plan to meet at my hotel tomorrow believe it or not. She's older than I usually go for but oh well. Anyway what am I missing in these malls?
Thanks
LukeSkywalker
06-14-14, 18:36
With severely polluted ocean around Quezon, I would be very careful what I eat in the Phil.
There is an outdoor market with a few stalls selling live or fresh seafood near New Asia mall, and a dozen restaurants that cook the food for a fee. But the supplies are small, varieties limited, and prices are ridiculously high, like 5 x to 6 x average price in the US. WTF? The Phil are basically fishermen living on 1000's of islands in the middle of the Pacific. Why the fuck is their seafood so expensive? They pissed me off.
Went to a few fancy seafood restaurant on Ermita and Malate where food are sold by the 100 grams. Restaurants in the Phil are very plain and expensive and the foods are not so good.
Stick to the food courts in malls. They serve large varieties of authentic Filipino foods in clean environment that the locals like. Recommended.
I never like chicken, but 1 afternoon hanging out on hot, humid and dusty Fields Ave in AC with nothing to do, I sat down on wooden stools and grimy tables on their sidewalk among young bar girls and old prostitutes, and tried their broiled chicken over smoky charcoal, washing down with cold San Miguels. Man, their charcoal-broiled chicken is excellent, probably the juiciest and tastiest in the world, in the words of a few perverts, as tasty and juicy as young Pinays' pussies. Hehe.
Did not have time to find their roast pig. I heard their roast pig is also very good.
All this talks make my mouth salivate and my dick rise in a pup tent. Hehe. Like General Douglas McArthur famously said, I SHALL BE BACK!
This is all I really need: sweet natural girls, GFE, healthy fresh food and the nice beaches and a good location.
With severely polluted ocean around Quezon, I would be very careful what I eat in the Phil.
Stick to the food courts in malls. They serve large varieties of authentic Filipino foods in clean environment that the locals like. Recommended.
Did not have time to find their roast pig. I heard their roast pig is also very good.
All this talks make my mouth salivate and my dick rise in a pup tent. Hehe. Like General Douglas McArthur famously said, I SHALL BE BACK!+1.
Have not been to AC or Manila yet, but did go to Cebu for a while on a short diving trip. All the best food was at the Ayala mall. Better than anything else locally by a mile, and at good prices. I went there for every meal. Saw ladies on the prowl too. Not a lot, but enough that you notice. But I wasn't hunting myself, so there were probably more than I just didn't spy.
Everyone hangs out at the mall. There is lots of traffic, which is why the food is always fresh. Its the center of social life there, kind of like the way it was in Southern Cal in the 80's. In fact, PI society kind of reminded me of the USA in 1980's. Fun loving, innocent, maybe a little naive. They way everyone is always singing.
Member #4698
06-14-14, 21:51
Funny, but I too have never had really good seafood in Manila or Cebu City. There must be a few high end places and hotel restaurants to go to, BUT... If you want to have great seafood, I recommend that you just go to the beaches. I have had great tuna steaks cooked just right in Sabang, Port Barton, and El Nido, Palawan. I am pretty sure you can find the same quality in Boracay and other island beach locations.
I have also eaten really well on Baloy Beach in Subic. The Blue Rock and Captain Robb's Barefoot Bar and Restaurant both serve up great, fresh seafood. But this is the Philippines, so instead of having gourmet side dishes to accompany the sushi grade fresh Tuna steaks what you get is macaroni salad and a baked potato. You got to love the PI!
BTW, someone was talking about Palawan. I think Palawan is great. They have some spectacular beaches. BRING YOUR OWN GIRL! And have a great time. Although there are a couple of bars with girls in Puerto Princessa, I think the quality is sketchy and the price (3000 p LT) is high. Besides Puerto Princess is not where you want to stay in Palawan.
A bar girl turned me on to the BBQ chicken stands along Fields in AC too. Outstanding! The chicken had great flavor.
LukeSkywalker
06-15-14, 00:04
you should post more info about the casas you went to in ermita. del pilar is only 1 block from manila bay board walk. the bros in medellin, colombia did very good jobs listing and updating info on all current clubs, bars and casas.
when i go overseas, i prefer the companies of authentic local girls. last thing i want is to hang out with so-called "more civilized" girls, which may mean they already learned the bad habits and nasty attitudes from us ghetto' hoes. hehe.
in the future i will try to set up dates via dia, craigslist etc. trying to get relationships more personal than with bars' or casas' girls. craigslist has many girls posting very pretty pictures. i got jacked around too many times by fake pics in craigslist in us and china, so i am still skeptical.
if all else fails then i would just go back to the casas or worse, the old, ugly girls of la cafe or p burgos. hehe.
i have been to a couple of casa in ermita area. one was on del pilar. it was funny how i knew the place. i was buying some mangoes from a sidewalk seller and she asked if i want girls. normally i ignore them but this time i started asking her things like are they pretty and young etc. she called a lady and asked her to take me there. the lady took me to some side street to a small shack of a house. since it was morning girls were half asleep. there were 8 girls. i chose one who was pretty with nice boobs. my impression was these were definitely trafficked girls from the provinces. certainly a chain of pimps involved since all of them look fresh, **** with some of them no i. the.
looks like they are mainly for the local rich people who treasure young girls. the amount i paid was 2500 till next morning.
i had to take this girl shopping to buy a nice outfit and a nice purse to take her to dinner. her jeans and blouse and handbag looked like she was a panhandler. obviously very poor. i wish these pimps take better care of these girls.
she was ok in bed in the sense i could do anything i wanted and any number times. i treated her nicely and she was very appreciative. i did not talk to her about the circumstances that forced her into prostitution as i did not wanted to be the righteous person.
these casas move around quickly because local people inform the police.
LukeSkywalker
06-15-14, 00:28
Wow. I thought you have been mongering in the Phil for decades... hehe.
I was screwing around in Manila. I told the hotel driver of my plan to go to AC to check it out. He told me I would be wasting my time in AC. He said AC girls are so crude and ugly, even Manila taxi drivers wold not fuck them.
He was dead right. AC girls are fresh off the rice paddies, some still literally have mud in the toe nails hehe. They are mostly crude country girls who have not learned the feminine arts of making themselves sexy and attractive like urban girls. They are so plain, very unattractive to me...
So that leaves just Manila and Cebu. If I were you, I would put everything in my life on hold and head to the Phil this week to find out how these little Pinays can make you feel sooooooooo sexy at least 10 times a day....hehe. Like our bro Matty Bumpo said, you may want to make arrangements with your favorite Manila girl for a full week of unlimited bare back sex and take her to the beach on Palawan for a whole week of beach and hot sex. Something about the warm and humid tropical climate in combination with sweet, pretty, sexy young girls that make me horny all day, all night...
Or you could just take her on a bus trip to the beach towns North of AC in Pampanga. I heard there are a few very nice beach towns in that area. Pampanga is supposed to be the Phil's culinary center. The food should be very good and cheap. I was very impressed with their broiled chicken in AC. Personally I prefer to tour the islands on bus or car to flying. You get to see real life of the people and interact with them first hand. It's more exciting.
Make a few (secret) high-def recordings of these girls in their thrashing and noisy sex acts in bed. Later when you grow senile and need a few sure-fire boners, just watch a few clips. Works surer and much faster than Viagra, Cialis or Levitra combined. Hehehe. There's nothing more erotic than the sexy sights and sounds of porn movies with young girls and you as the main stars...
+1.
Have not been to AC or Manila yet, but did go to Cebu for a while on a short diving trip. All the best food was at the Ayala mall. Better than anything else locally by a mile, and at good prices. I went there for every meal. Saw ladies on the prowl too. Not a lot, but enough that you notice. But I wasn't hunting myself, so there were probably more than I just didn't spy.
Everyone hangs out at the mall. There is lots of traffic, which is why the food is always fresh. Its the center of social life there, kind of like the way it was in Southern Cal in the 80's. In fact, PI society kind of reminded me of the USA in 1980's. Fun loving, innocent, maybe a little naive. They way everyone is always singing.
Some might know this place on Del Pilar south past LAC. Drove by there yesterday and it was closed down and vacant. Seems there were just too many street people to walk through to get there from LAC. I wouldn't do it even in the middle of the afternoon.
Asian Rain
06-15-14, 07:03
A date I was supposed to meet near Robinsons Malate last evening went belly up, so with a need to get the white out, I decided to check out LA Cafe after a near 1-year hiatus. I was disturbingly shocked at the poor quality of talent as I strolled in at 11:30 on a Saturday night. Forget the under 20 yo niblets of yesteryear. I was struggling to see anything below 25 yo or anything resembling a talent I would want to employ for sex. Walked out after a few rounds and tried G Point and Amazonia. Substantially worse at these venues in terms of age, looks and selection. Walked back to LA Cafe. Nothing changed for the better, so went home alone to watch world cup. Tragic conditions for the formerly reliable circuit. Guess I will treasure my contacts even more. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.
I told the hotel driver of my plan to go to AC to check it out. He told me I would be wasting my time in AC. He said AC girls are so crude and ugly, even Manila taxi drivers wold not fuck them.
He was dead right. AC girls are fresh off the rice paddies, some still literally have mud in the toe nails hehe. They are mostly crude country girls who have not learned the feminine arts of making themselves sexy and attractive like urban girls. They are so plain, very unattractive to me...If you didn't enjoy your time in AC bars that's fine but this stuff about the AC bar girls you're posting is just bullshit. I couldn't care less if you or your little hate campaign of posters never came back but at least try to be little objective ha?
PS if a taxi driver has a live one on his hands in Manila do you *really* expect him to send business elsewhere? Get real.
AV.
A date I was supposed to meet near Robinsons Malate last evening went belly up, so with a need to get the white out, I decided to check out LA Cafe after a near 1-year hiatus. I was disturbingly shocked at the poor quality of talent as I strolled in at 11:30 on a Saturday night. Forget the under 20 yo niblets of yesteryear. I was struggling to see anything below 25 yo or anything resembling a talent I would want to employ for sex. Walked out after a few rounds and tried G Point and Amazonia. Substantially worse at these venues in terms of age, looks and selection. Walked back to LA Cafe. Nothing changed for the better, so went home alone to watch world cup. Tragic conditions for the formerly reliable circuit. Guess I will treasure my contacts even more. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.AR you're probably better qualified than me to judge but over the years I have found LAC to vary in quality / quantity / price wildly. As you previously pointed out always better to find your own pimp'ette if possible anyway.
AV.
Where's the quality in Manila? I see some real stars in the photo gallery from guys like AsianRain and in some porns online. I've also been with some regular pinays in other countries that were very hot. Imagine my surprise then when I came to Manila.
The malls some talked about had no obvious talent. LA / Manila bay cafe and Havana Cafe had girls I wouldn't fuck for free. Maybe if I was hard up, but I'm not. I'm relatively young and fit and I live in Asia.
I hit Air Force One. Hell of a trip from Makati in a cab and the place isn't so great. Staff isn't helpful for first timers, "first class" rooms smell of mold and look cheesy. Girls are okay but they wear uniforms and sit down so you can't tell what you're going to get. No mama to help you choose either. At this price point I expect more.
DIA is easy to use. I could find a girl every day in a few minutes. Meet for coffee or at most a movie and 100% hit rate after that. Problem is these women are mostly average at best and often use fake or doctored pics. I got tired of putting up with banal conversions to get basic sex after, even if it was free. Also have to wait around a lot. Everyone is late. Traffic is crazy and people don't care meeting on time. No one knows where anything is either. Tell a girl to meet you at Greenbelt 3 and she'll ask you where it is. Pay her taxi and she'll meet you in 2 hours, maybe. Don't pay it and she'll take three jeeps and meet you in 3-4.
EDSA complex reminds me of AC. Average girls. Some real dogs. Few to no stars. Cheaper bar fine but still approaching $200 US after a little bar hopping, bar fine and tip. Scam artist taxis and porters waiting outside that nearly fight you if you walk around them to find a metered cab. Tried twice but soon realized I wasn't getting much for my 200. One was on her period. Claimed she didn't know until back in the room. Ha!
Burgos has lots of bars. Some allow action right inside. But those have the worst of the worst doing the deeds. The other bars aren't much better. Lots of fat girls by Asian standards. Tons of stretch marks and baby bellies, scars, hairy legs, dirty feet. Nice enough but most can't hold a conversion despite their ability to speak English. Most didn't even know where Cambodia or Vietnam are or the names of their own church and civic leaders. I don't blame them since they grew up in such poor conditions. I'm mentioning it because guys here have lauded these girls as great conversationalists in comparison with Thai and Khmer girls. I can speak English, Thai and Khmer and I would say the knowledge and ability to converse is lower here than anywhere. Plus a lot of older women who are 25+. Way too old to pay for. Unlimited supply of freebies online.
I thought I found a gem with Kojax. Girls seem relatively younger and more fit. Almost no fatties. Met a gal that looked pretty good in the club. Crazy bar fine of 6500. Money is not a big deal for me but the quality has to be there. Outside realize she's pretty average, not even as good as many of the girls I've seen at Mall of Asia shopping with family. Back in the room start running my hands through her hair and find that she has a killer head lice infection. Lice literally falling out on my white sheets in the New World Makati hotel. She tells me is just "kuto" and that everyone gets it here frequently. Offers to call her friend and prove it when she sees my disbelief. What the fuck?
The prices are just crazy for what's offered. These are mostly slum girls and generally no better than the average girl around town. No manners, no ability to properly dress or apply makeup. One didn't know how to turn on a shower. Little in the way of conversation or sexual skills, though I will say they are usually wet and ready to go on demand. Condoms totally the responsibility of the guy if he wants them, except at massage.
For the price I could get unlimited beauties in Chinese saunas. For 20 percent of the price better looking women in mainland southeast Asia. Short time on Soi 6 with comparable or better quality girls costs equivalent of 1300 pesos.
What's worse is the condition of the place. It's like a giant slum. Aggressive scammers and beggars everywhere. Worst I've seen. At least half of the taxis try to cheat you. Walking around difficult to impossible. Public transport is a disgusting joke. Traffic is unbearable. Airport is worst I've ever seen. Service lacking everywhere, even five star hotels. Shopping sucks too. Get searched everywhere you go. Returned to my $250 a night hotel with a shopping bag only to be stopped and have it looked through. Nothing like being treated as a potential threat by people who make in two months what you are paying per day.
Never experienced anything like this in traveling all through Asia and Latin America.
A week in getting depressed with my visit. Wouldn't return.
Was really hoping to find some firm 18-21 year old gems like I've seen in AsianRains photos but unfortunately no luck. Very sad for me.
I've had some good times way back when and a few good times recently. I honestly wouldn't expect much that late on a Saturday night. Last time I was there they were once again having bands on the 2nd floor. That would be a big plus. Sorry for the cliche / idiom, but the early bird gets the worm.
A date I was supposed to meet near Robinsons Malate last evening went belly up, so with a need to get the white out, I decided to check out LA Cafe after a near 1-year hiatus. I was disturbingly shocked at the poor quality of talent as I strolled in at 11:30 on a Saturday night. Forget the under 20 yo niblets of yesteryear. I was struggling to see anything below 25 yo or anything resembling a talent I would want to employ for sex. Walked out after a few rounds and tried G Point and Amazonia. Substantially worse at these venues in terms of age, looks and selection. Walked back to LA Cafe. Nothing changed for the better, so went home alone to watch world cup. Tragic conditions for the formerly reliable circuit. Guess I will treasure my contacts even more. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.
I will be in Manila in July in Pasy area and have been looking in advance at some escort options in the area. Manila Courtesans looks like they have nice girls, but the prices seem steep. 4000 plus for 2 hours and 8000 plus all night. Is this a good deal? I know for convenience sake they come to the hotel, but are there better options for finding some cute 18 year old spinners?
LukeSkywalker
06-16-14, 01:31
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Where's the quality in Manila? I see some real stars in the photo gallery from guys like AsianRain and in some porns online. I've also been with some regular pinays in other countries that were very hot. Imagine my surprise then when I came to Manila.
The malls some talked about had no obvious talent. LA / Manila bay cafe and Havana Cafe had girls I wouldn't fuck for free. Maybe if I was hard up, but I'm not. I'm relatively young and fit and I live in Asia.
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Was really hoping to find some firm 18-21 year old gems like I've seen in AsianRains photos but unfortunately no luck. Very sad for me.Hi Bronzeman,
Congratulations on a very entertaining and well-written post. And I do agree with almost all that you have written.
The expert mongerers here in PI have honed their skills and developed their networks of girls over a number of years. A quick visit to Manila cannot unearth the same quality and quantity of girls.
But I believe that there are many great opportunities out there. I am more into freebies than P4 P and have found many intelligent, educated and sexy young ladies in Manila. I have met some on PinaLove and Filipina Cupid where it is easy to identify the better class of girls. I have also met many at places where girls from the squatter camps do not, and could not afford to go, including hotels (even staff! Universities and training hospitals. I have even had success at places like Market, Market and the restaurants in Global City, and a number of TGIF restaurants.
Be alert, be aware of, and respond to the slight signals of interest from girls 24/7. And you will be rewarded!
Again, thanks for a great post!
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What's worse is the condition of the place. It's like a giant slum. Aggressive scammers and beggars everywhere. Worst I've seen. At least half of the taxis try to cheat you. Walking around difficult to impossible. Public transport is a disgusting joke. Traffic is unbearable. Airport is worst I've ever seen. Service lacking everywhere, even five star hotels. Shopping sucks too. Get searched everywhere you go. Returned to my $250 a night hotel with a shopping bag only to be stopped and have it looked through. Nothing like being treated as a potential threat by people who make in two months what you are paying per day.
Never experienced anything like this in traveling all through Asia and Latin America.
A week in getting depressed with my visit. Wouldn't return. BronzeMan: I am sorry to hear your experience at Air Force 1 and elsewhere was not so good especially after I recommended it. Did you try any of the high-end clubs?
Your post about your experiences was, sadly, pretty accurate about the situation here, particularly the points that I reproduced above.
I have substantial work and investments in the Philippines so I always look at the "half-full glass" to justify my reasons for staying here. If I dwelt too much on the negatives then I would go crazy. Your post reminds me of the things that I try to ignore and avoid but it doesn't mean they are not still there.
I hope you find some nice young ones before you head out.
I made my monthly trip into Manila from the province a couple days ago and walked from Swagman's to Robinson's to LAC to G Point. That part of town just seems to be getting worse and worse. It can get a little bit boring out here where I live when they roll the carpets up at 9:00 p.m. but I'm starting to be happy about making the move. What's really interesting is it seems more women out here are interested in meeting me than when I lived in Manila. I couldn't have played my last card in a city of 20 million, could I?
LukeSkywalker
06-16-14, 09:05
Bronzeman,
Wrote a very comprehensive and helpful guide on where to find and how much to pay for sex in Pnom Penh. I was very impressed with his thoroughness and factual reporting.
He just dropped a big bomb about the lack of quality of Manila girls, which may rankle a few entrenched people.
Beauty is somewhat subjective. But even for a very tolerant guy like me, I found the average Pinays just not as pretty and good-looking as girls and women in other Asian countries. Of course there are small populations of the extremely pretty and extremely ugly girls in any country. Pics posted by the bros would validate this point.
I posted my viewpoints that AC girls are crude and caught a lot of flaks from a few bros. But bar girls with head lice, claiming lots of girls also have them, is big, terrible news. That means the average Pinays' personal hygiene and their sanitary conditions are probably behind other Asian countries by about 70 years. Damn. If you pick up these parasites and bring them home, you would never be able to get rid of them and would face big problems.
In contrast I found AC a brutal and repulsive meat market of crude, ugly, rude country girls, a place I don't want to come back to. LA Cafe has some old and ugly hos to the point I would not want to even look at them. But I hang around a little each time and found a few good-looking, young ones. I took the young student to tour the city, shopping and meals ect. I felt very good spending time with her because she speaks English and have good manners. Her company was far more satisfying in and out of bed than girls in other countries, whom I could fuck but could not communicate.
The girls I picked up from the casas were nice, clean, pretty. I enjoyed sex with them so much that I would come back for them. I will just have to be more careful and check for head lice and crab lice problems.
A few years ago I picked up crab lice from a very beautiful model living in Beverly Hills. She and her younger sister were semi pros. Don't know where she picked up that problem.
Have heard from a few bros that they picked up crab lice and bed bugs in Mexico and other countries in Central and South America. There is also supposedly a bed bug crisis in many US cities. Fucking ghetto hoes and bedding down in sleazy hooker motels and you may bring home some very serious problems.
Forget about the Phil with its head lice and bed bugs. Just tell us where to go for the best sex and the most funs in Asia. Hehe.
Where's the quality in Manila? I see some real stars in the photo gallery from guys like AsianRain and in some porns online. I've also been with some regular pinays in other countries that were very hot. Imagine my surprise then when I came to Manila.
I thought I found a gem with Kojax. Girls seem relatively younger and more fit. Almost no fatties. Met a gal that looked pretty good in the club. Crazy bar fine of 6500. Money is not a big deal for me but the quality has to be there. Outside realize she's pretty average, not even as good as many of the girls I've seen at Mall of Asia shopping with family. Back in the room start running my hands through her hair and find that she has a killer head lice infection. Lice literally falling out on my white sheets in the New World Makati hotel. She tells me is just "kuto" and that everyone gets it here frequently. Offers to call her friend and prove it when she sees my disbelief. What the fuck?..
Where's the quality in Manila? I see some real stars in the photo gallery from guys like AsianRain and in some porns online.
I hung out on Burgos for a few days and I SAW several very hot BGs. I BFed a few, 2 of which were equal or better than what I see posted here. I know what beauty is and there is good quality on Burgos St, young, tight, w / flat stomachs so Bman you did not see all Burgos has to offer apparently.
I don't have the time there to develop a stable of horney desperate civvies so the bars are my hunting grounds. The Burgos bars are worth going to if you like slim, young and tight, the chubs are there too of course.
In my opinion the hottest women are in Cebu but that's in the scummy Philippines so don't bother.
Good Luck again
Beauty is subjective I guess so I won't comment on your "beauty". I will say under no circumstances is a short time with her worth $200 plus. Just my opinion. If you like that look let me know when you're in Cambodia and I'll fill you in on a place to find the same or better for one tenth the price, or in Thai one seventh.
Beauty is subjective I guess so I won't comment on your "beauty". I will say under no circumstances is a short time with her worth $200 plus. Just my opinion. If you like that look let me know when you're in Cambodia and I'll fill you in on a place to find the same or better for one tenth the price, or in Thai one seventh.That's great news about Cambodia and makes it more likely I will go there. But we're talking about the PI and I have never witnessed your assessment of the PI.
Burgos has lots of bars. Some allow action right inside. But those have the worst of the worst doing the deeds. The other bars aren't much better. Lots of fat girls by Asian standards. Tons of stretch marks and baby bellies, scars, hairy legs, dirty feet. Nice enough but most can't hold a conversion despite their ability to speak English. Most didn't even know where Cambodia or Vietnam are or the names of their own church and civic leaders. I don't blame them since they grew up in such poor conditions. I'm mentioning it because guys here have lauded these girls as great conversationalists in comparison with Thai and Khmer girls. I can speak English, Thai and Khmer and I would say the knowledge and ability to converse is lower here than anywhere. Plus a lot of older women who are 25+. Way too old to pay for. Unlimited supply of freebies online.
I thought I found a gem with Kojax. Girls seem relatively younger and more fit. Almost no fatties. Met a gal that looked pretty good in the club. Crazy bar fine of 6500. Money is not a big deal for me but the quality has to be there. Outside realize she's pretty average, not even as good as many of the girls I've seen at Mall of Asia shopping with family. Back in the room start running my hands through her hair and find that she has a killer head lice infection. Lice literally falling out on my white sheets in the New World Makati hotelI agree w / you on prices, they're ridiculous, and that the quality of sex is amateurish but I did enjoy most of my sessions because of tight pussies and the GFE I received from all the ladies. The AC and Burgos BGs (below) were special fucks, I'm still feeling it.
During my holiday I did not see much baby damage, scars, hairy legs, dirty feet on any of the BGs. I've never dealt w / lice on any of my past trips but I tend to steer clear of the lower tier places so that might be why.
I just think your general assessment is not accurate compared to my experiences. The BG below is 18 and her body is prefect, a little wear and tear but that's part of the scene, it can't be helped.
You obviously have very high standards and there are very few bars to meet your standard. I have known from the very start of my international mongering career that the best of the best are not working these bars. The very best lookers get snapped up fast or gravitate to the bigger money bars. They are no where near AC and they don't sell their wares in a Burgos bar either.
So I do wish you luck in finding the quality you seek. As for AR and his ladies, they are fine but the faces are censored so no one really knows how pretty each one is. His taste for thin and young is spot on and has had a positive influence on me.
On my last visit I enjoyed some very fine women, one in AC, and two on Burgos. There was one un-barfineable lady at Bottoms that was immaculate in body and presence and still had a pristine body as if she'd never been fucked.
Anyhoo cheers Bro, I hope someday we can share a beer and talk shop some more.
Life is good.
My fav from AC.
GoodEnough
06-16-14, 22:50
Beauty is subjective I guess so I won't comment on your "beauty". I will say under no circumstances is a short time with her worth $200 plus. Just my opinion. If you like that look let me know when you're in Cambodia and I'll fill you in on a place to find the same or better for one tenth the price, or in Thai one seventh.I wanted to thank you for your original post regarding your impressions of the country. Like Red Kilt, I live here, and have investments here, which makes it difficult for me to pull up stakes and relocate to a more congenial place. Your characterization of the country evoked feelings that I usually try (not always successfully) to supress, since focusing on the obvious poverty, dirt, ugliness, nightmarish traffic and general hopelessness of the country would compound the difficulty of living here. The bottom line for me is that since I live here, I might as well try to make the best of it. For me, when I'm in Manila, this means rarely venturing outside of the Makati (Fairmont Hotel) and Ortigas (where my office is) areas. I find that if I can hang around the Fairmont, and the nearby Greenbelt Mall, I can, with a little mental effort, forget that I'm on a relatively affluent island surrounded by desperation.
Having spent significant time in Thailand, and a few weeks in Cambodia, I can understand your preference for either of the latter countries. However, if you've not written the Philippines off completely, you might want to consider visiting some of the provincial areas. You won't find any less poverty, but you might find dramatically different attitudes and outlooks. This is one of the major reasons that I prefer Davao, and even Cebu, to the unlivable cesspool of most of Manila.
GE.
LukeSkywalker
06-17-14, 00:03
Grand Ma Sheila is so horny, she should be paying guys bi bucks to poke her. Hehe.
She will be right at home at LA Cafe. Hehe.
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Meet Sheila Vogel-Coupe: Britain's oldest granny prostitute who's still busy with clients at 85.
Monday 19 May 2014 11:08 am.
Sitting in her chair with a head of grey hair, a buttoned-up cardigan and a beaming smile, you'the be forgiven for thinking Sheila Vogel-Coupe was just like any other grandmother. But that is exactly what she is not.
At 85 years of age Sheila has more notches on her bedpost than most twentysomethings – because she is Britain's oldest prostitute.
On closer examination, you can see that Sheila wears a miniskirt, suspenders and patent heels. And it's no wonder she has such a large grin on her face, given that she rakes in £250 an hour for raunchy romps.
Sheila went on the game four years ago after struggling with loneliness following the death of her second husband, aeronautical engineer Noel Coupe, in 2004.
She used to entertain ten clients a week until she had to go under the knife for an operation in which she had to have 13 in of intestine removed.
Since taking up the world's oldest profession, she has been disowned by her family and seen her story splashed all over the Press – but it isn't enough to get her to give up her lucrative career.
'I don't think I will ever stop,' Sheila says ahead of appearing on new Channel 4 documentary My Granny The Escort.
More: X Factor Katie Waissel 'ruined my career' says porn star gran.
Speaking about her male clients, she said: 'They see something about me. It is a nice feeling.
'Often men call me up and say, "Will you please go on talking because you are turning me on. " I know I am very, very sexy. '
Attempting to explain why she's a granny on the game, she added: 'The most important reason is because I love sex. Even thinking about it makes me feel better.
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More: X Factor star Katie's prostitute gran defends her job.
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The Channel 4 documentary also features 64-year-old Beverley – a grandmother who entertains men at her suburban home, and 57-year-old Sophie who invites clients to her isolated country pad for romps.
My Granny The Escort airs on C4 on Thursday, May 29, at 10 pm.
My post mainly focuses on Makati and Burgos St. I have zero exp compared to others here. The country / government in general is depressing at best. I was only talking about the Makati area and BGs in general. It is a modern day barbaric tradegy, it's the way of ignorance, greed and fear. All the beauty and horror on this planet is orchstrated by nture so it's meant to be as I have come to believe.
I trust nature, not man.
Wow, what an interesting string of posts and conversation!
As someone with only minor experience in the PI limited to a long weekend in Cebu, let me say that these mostly negative verdicts matched my initial impressions. I went to all the Cebu haunts, several per night, trying to find the girls which much of the ISG community has made legendary over the years. I didn't see anything appealing at all. As some of you may have noticed, I have been among those asking for opinions from more experienced PI expats about where to go to find these women, mostly because I am still so perplexed as to why my initial impression seemed to differ so vastly from everyone else. I mean, look at the PI forums! They have got to be the busiest, most active threads on the whole website! Guys are posting pics practically every day.
I was planning to visit again, thinking I had just been unlucky. But now I realize that my initial impressions were correct, so that trip is now officially cancelled. Been eager to visit Myanmar anyway.
That being said, lets clarify one thing, lest people misinterpret our conclusions. Our opinions are about Filipino PUTAs, not all Filipino women in general. If you look at the prostitutes in the USA, you could hardly draw conclusions about all American women. I am sure that there are tons of pretty, smart, educated women in the Phillipines. They just don't hang out in LA Cafe at 3 o'clock in the afternoon. Let's emphasize that we are talking about a SPECIFIC demographic here.
I want to say this, first of all, because its right. Secondly, if it is NOT clarified, some knucklehead standing up third world countries is going to launch a tirade of progressive rants targetted at other members. The country and people of the PI don't need to be defended. Just the P4P scene.
I have only been to the Philippines a few times and what keeps drawing me back is not Burgos, or any of the places mentioned in Manila. I have never been to Angeles, and have no desire to go there. The food is not good, the traffic is worse than the food, and it's a difficult country to navigate.
What keeps me coming back is the dating site women I have met. I tend to target the early thirties to early to mid forty year old age group with a good education, decent jobs, and who are still relatively well preserved. For my purposes they do the trick and when we are in public I don't feel like an old pervert. I am an old pervert, but at least there isn't a huge age difference to flag those that see us together. My time with them tends to be for a few days. They are realistic. They know their way around both in and out of the bedroom, and for the most part when they say "I will guide you" they actually know how to get to where you want to go.
When I have been with them, I have seldom had to worry about figuring out boat or bus schedules as they just look after things for me and I simply tag along LOL. As well, they can hold a conversation and we keep in touch with each other between trips. So in fact they have been true girlfriend experiences in every sense of the word but they are also realistic about no commitments.
Which brings me to a bit of a bone of contention. I had one lady who's company I enjoyed immensely drop out of sight just over a year ago. Pfffft gone. As I am coming back in September I recently started to escalate my search for her. I finally found a picture of her relaxing over a glass of wine at her new home in the Netherlands. Some dirty Dutchman scooped her up and relocated her on me. lol How inconsiderate. I was counting on her on this trip again.
I am sure that with only about twenty million available women in the Philippines I will never be able to replace her. There is a lot of crappy things about the Philippines, but these are the women who keep me coming back and enjoying my time there.
FreebieFan
06-17-14, 03:01
B. But bar girls with head lice, claiming lots of girls also have them, is big, terrible news. That means the average Pinays' personal hygiene and their sanitary conditions are probably behind other Asian countries by about 70 years. Damn. If you pick up these parasites and bring them home, you would never be able to get rid of them and would face big problems.
Fe.Hate to burst your anti Pinay crusade, but headlice is a common problem in Asia.
http://www.headlice.org/news/2005/malaysia.htm
http://www.expatsingapore.com/forum/index.php?topic=73265.0;prev_next%3Dnext
http://www.chinaexpathealth.com/2011/11/13/shanghai-headlice-and-cooties-really.html
Have a look at the sites for all International schools in Asia (where given the fees one would assume the parents ensure their kids practice good personal hygiene and you will see they all have discussion groups about this problem. Yes including squeaky clean Singapore.
So if kids have it, high chance other parts of the population have it, yes including Philippines.
Keep trying fella. One day your going to make a meaningful post.
It's hard to argue with documented fact but I think that's mostly limited to school kids right? School kids everywhere get lice. We're talking about adult women working in entertainment and going out at a rate of $200+ per. That's more than a Korean massage parlor charges in New York city and those women are immaculate in their hygiene and makeup. It'd be unheard of to find one with lice.
Additionally I can say in years of living and traveling Asia very extensively and banging several scores of women I have never encountered head lice in person or even in conversation, which leads me to believe it's not common.
I'm not condemning the whole country. But even coming out of one of the poorest countries in the world I was very shocked by stuff like the lice.
I would say it's probably the best place in Asia for easy pick ups and freebies. But that only makes the mediocre bar girls at 200+ seem even worse.
Wow, what an interesting string of posts and conversation!
I don't agree the truth "now" emerges; many commentators have filed the same FR for the bars for several years now. I rarely go to the bars because I find the pickings on the dating sites so much better, and I'm willing to put in the work to cultivate connections. I do visit LA & Gpoint from time to time when friends are in town and yes, it's often dismal. This is not to say there are no attractive girls there, but those who fish at LA tend to favour, overwhelmingly, the East Asian guys.
A decade and half ago it was almost exclusively white guys; there would be a handful of Japanese, but for the most part they kept to themselves and patronised Japanese-oriented places. The Koreans zerg rushed LA and now the mainland Chinese have followed. This will continue. These guys tend to be younger than the whites and are willing to spend more. And don't discount the popularity of kpop dramas and musical groups in the Philippines; the two major TV networks broadcast far more Korean-produced shows than those from the US, boyband concerts sell out, and this helps build an affinity and even desirability for Koreans amongst Pinays.
The rise of the dating sites offers an attractive girl many more pickings from the convenience of her own home or neighbourhood internet cafe. Why ride a bus for a few hours to Manila, then take a couple of jeeps from the depot to LA, pay p100 for a dingy bedspace, and sit in LA (where the girl-to-guy ratio is 3 or 4 to 1) for hours for the chance of meeting a guy? Better stay at home when you have dozens of guys contacting you every day. And many of these girls find fellas abroad who wire them money. Tough choice, eh?
In addition, I know several girls who have been contacted on FC by reps of Korean-owned dating agencies who offer them cash to visit the office, create a profile, and make themselves available to older Korean fellas online; these guys pay a considerable sum to the agency to find them prospective marriage candidates. As long as they keep seeing new and attractive faces they keep renewing their memberships. Korean-owned tourist agencies do a roaring trade with the package-tour groups of men here for golf and sex. Do you think these agencies are going to leave things to chance when the clients are expecting young and hot women? Of course not. And let's not forget the huge number of KTVs that employ bona fide stunners - watch as they swarm out to the street at 3am. Are any of us going there?
Not to insult anyone, but many guys tend to over estimate their attractiveness; research has proven that men consider themselves better looking than they really are and women consider themselves less attractive. If you want an "honest" evaluation of your attractiveness post a photo of yourself on a hot-or-not website; if you're scoring 7 or better you're attractive. Also, older guys tend to underestimate the importance of age. You may be young at heart and have your thumb on the pulse of popular culture, yet everyone else sees you as an "old man". A younger woman may feel uncomfortable and even embarrassed to be seen in such a conspicuous pairing. Years ago she had fewer choices when looking for a younger guy, but this is no longer the case.
I certainly believe the Philippines offers are large number of exceptional yet attainable women, but the numbers looking for a guy like me at LA Cafe and the like grow fewer and fewer. No need to waste my time there. The pizza there is really tasty, though.
Member #4566
06-17-14, 07:21
In addition, I know several girls who have been contacted on FC by reps of Korean-owned dating agencies who offer them cash to visit the office, create a profile, and make themselves available to older Korean fellas online; these guys pay a considerable sum to the agency to find them prospective marriage candidates.You make a point that the pinays seem to be more enamoured of say Koreans. Yet, Koreans do not marry Pinays as a rule. I think the same is true of Japanese. Koreans have an overwhelming cultural bias to marry other Koreans. It is rare that they venture outside their kind. It may not be as strong as the Japanese but I suspect they work almost the same.
However Westerners marry Pinays. We can really really like them well enough to bring them home to meet mom. These other guys can not. And that is the rub for the Pinay. We should remind our prospective Pinay partners, as we try to woo them away from our East Asian rivals, that we will marry you and they will never.
You make a point that the pinays seem to be more enamoured of say Koreans. Yet, Koreans do not marry Pinays as a rule. I think the same is true of Japanese. Koreans have an overwhelming cultural bias to marry other Koreans. It is rare that they venture outside their kind. It may not be as strong as the Japanese but I suspect they work almost the same.
However Westerners marry Pinays. We can really really like them well enough to bring them home to meet mom. These other guys can not. And that is the rub for the Pinay. We should remind our prospective Pinay partners, as we try to woo them away from our East Asian rivals, that we will marry you and they will never.Maybe I wasn't so clear. These women are paid to create profiles and chat with older Korea blokes, who are often farmers or low-skilled workers, online. They're bait. It's a job. The pay is okay, quite good for doing almost nothing, and they don't need to hang out in a bar waiting for Prince Charming to show up and marry 'em. Moreover, I think most girls learn quickly that there aren't too many Westerners who will marry them either. Sure, they'll talk a wonderful fantasy...
Maybe I wasn't so clear. These women are paid to create profiles and chat with older Korea blokes, who are often farmers or low-skilled workers, online. They're bait. It's a job. The pay is okay, quite good for doing almost nothing, and they don't need to hang out in a bar waiting for Prince Charming to show up and marry 'em. Moreover, I think most girls learn quickly that there aren't too many Westerners who will marry them either. Sure, they'll talk a wonderful fantasy...Just to add to what Hutsori said:
The Australia Network has been running lots of stories recently about the acute shortage of marriageable-age women in China now (read that as over-abundance of men) because of the one child policy and the (unconfirmed) probability that many female foetuses were aborted because families preferred having a male child as heir.
Two things are discussed in these documentaries:
One is that desperate parents are turning to other countries through dating sites (including so-called mail-order sites) to ensure that their sons marry and produce grandchildren for them, and whilst Philippines is not exactly flavor of the month they are prepared to accept anything.
The second factor is the hordes of horny Chinese guys who don't have any willing girls available to satisfy their lustful urges, hence their travel to places like the Philippines to get laid as often as possible. Travel companies are cashing in on it with "adult entertainment tours" to nearby countries. The Chinese have cash too and the girls here are becoming very much aware of this as well as an awareness that they don't have to snare an older white guy as a possible lifeline for future happenis (oops I mean happiness). Young Chinese are very much suitable for them on many fronts.
So all things considered, expect many more tour groups in the Philippines of young Chinese guys following in the footsteps of the Japanese and Korean guys who blazed the trail before them.
The highest concentration of absolutely gorgeous young pinays that I have ever witnessed has been the students at a number of Manila finishing schools (I was there on purely business matters haha).
What was interesting was that when the schools finished for the day, the most beautiful of the most beautiful were all scooped up by their elderly Pinoy sugar daddys in their luxury cars.
Cheers
FreebieFan
06-17-14, 08:35
The second factor is the hordes of horny Chinese guys who don't have any willing girls available to satisfy their lustful urges.That's because some of us in China are doing our best to scoop them up by the handful. LOL.
Nice Guy 99
06-17-14, 08:39
This will likely not be a popular post. There is a tendency in the last few days on the ISG PI boards to work the theme of how terrible Pinay WGs are. They exploit. They have Pinoy BFs. Only extort money. Etc, etc.
OK. A lot of this may be true, but those who post are missing an important point. These girls are people. They do what they do for many reasons but there is still vulnerable girl underneath. A girl who tries to construct a shell to protect herself.
Please remember this. Don't get taken advantage of but sometimes you may wish to invest some effort to find the girl in the shell. If you can get there the rewards on both sides are great.
GoodEnough
06-17-14, 10:11
This will likely not be a popular post.
These girls are people. They do what they do for many reasons but there is still vulnerable girl underneath. A girl who tries to construct a shell to protect herself.
You make an excellent point. I doubt, of all the thousands of prostitutes in the country, that there are more than a handful that selected prostitution enthusiastically as a career. As has been described many times in this forum and elsewhere, these girls are typically victims of a wretched education public education system that prepares very few for meaningful employment, of a wretched government that manages an economy that creates few meaningful jobs, of exploitative families who view the girls as sources of support, and finally of the Catholic church and it's stultifying control of politics.
GE.
I don't think anyone has condemned the wgs for their situation. What I was saying at least is that rough uneducated girls from slums with stretch marks and little sexual skill shouldn't cost over 200 to spend a little time with. That's especially true with freebies of equal quality so easy to acquire.
The rates are way higher than what you'd pay in any other Asian country for similar quality. And no matter how much you have the real quality is simply nowhere to be found. Yes I tried KTVs, Air Force One "first class", and Miss Universe. I didn't see anything better than the typical hot 20 something you can see all over Glorieta 4 (for example).
I found it incredibly easy to pick up even the really hot girls out shopping and take them for coffee or a movie. But sometimes I like the convenience of point and click pay for play, and that's simply not available in Manila that I could see. Add in the general difficulties and agitation of the city and it's not a desirable mongering spot.
FreebieFan
06-17-14, 10:41
This will likely not be a popular post. There is a tendency in the last few days on the ISG PI boards to work the theme of how terrible Pinay WGs are. They exploit. They have Pinoy BFs. Only extort money. Etc, etc.
OK. A lot of this may be true, but those who post are missing an important point. These girls are people. They do what they do for many reasons but there is still vulnerable girl underneath. A girl who tries to construct a shell to protect herself.
Please remember this. Don't get taken advantage of but sometimes you may wish to invest some effort to find the girl in the shell. If you can get there the rewards on both sides are great.There are a few, probably newbies, who didn't enjoy their time in PI and have posted based on that.
There is a great majority of male visitors who admire respect and enjoy the ladies in mutually satisfying terms. The girls are sweet and loving.
Yes some of them can be cynical and scam minded. But the normal visitor with a raised level of alertness will not let himself get scammed. What sounds too good to be true, always is.
There are moments of total and utter delight with some of the ladies we meet.
There are some that work incredibly hard to support themselves and some that have no skills or brains other than a decent body that will soon fade.
Those of us who know the country, and know how to enjoy can have wonderfully relaxed and happy times.
Others, who for whatever reasons have bad luck, meet the wrong types, get scammed or just don't enjoy haven't been shy to express their concerns.
But such visitors IMHO are generally few and far between.
If everyone had a bad time would anyone still go?
GoodEnough
06-17-14, 23:56
I agree in general with Bronzeman, and, all things considered, find little that's attractive in Manila. I can fully understand why the generally miserable character of the place would be considered as simply not worth the hassle. It's interesting to me to read the perspectives of intelligent guys who are new to the country, and I suspect that their points of view are fairly representative of most first-time arrivals here. The pervasive hopelessness of this place--remembering that Manila is about as good as it gets from the standpoint of services and amenities--invariably gets to me after a while. To live here in a state of relative tranquillity requires suppression of these feelings, but they do bubble to the surface frequently. The fact is, that nothing gets better here quickly, and the slow, incremental improvements that do occur, are far outstripped by more rapid progress in almost all sectors, in other SE Asian countries. So, relative to its neighbors, this place continuously lags behind. Singapore, Vietnam and Malaysia, for example, continue to build shiny new and efficient airports, while here, the government "makes plans. ".
Perhaps even sadder than the generally deplorable condition of the country is that ordinary Filipinos are cognizant of the indifference and total incompetence of their government, but feel hopeless to do anything that might improve the situation. Talk to any taxicab driver, restaurant waitress, sales clerk or other "ordinary" Filipino and chances are they will express the same concerns. They know as well about the progress being made in other countries and in general deplore their government. However, they feel and in fact are, helpless.
Having spent abundant time in Thailand, and much shorter but thoroughly enjoyable times in Cambodia and Vietnam, I agree that any of those destinations are more desirable than the Philippines.
GE.
It's hard to argue with documented fact but I think that's mostly limited to school kids right? School kids everywhere get lice. We're talking about adult women working in entertainment and going out at a rate of $200+ per. That's more than a Korean massage parlor charges in New York city and those women are immaculate in their hygiene and makeup. It'd be unheard of to find one with lice.
Additionally I can say in years of living and traveling Asia very extensively and banging several scores of women I have never encountered head lice in person or even in conversation, which leads me to believe it's not common.
I'm not condemning the whole country. But even coming out of one of the poorest countries in the world I was very shocked by stuff like the lice.
I would say it's probably the best place in Asia for easy pick ups and freebies. But that only makes the mediocre bar girls at 200+ seem even worse.In nine years I've never met or bedded a Pinay that wasn't anything but sqeeky clean in her hair. They invest considerable time mony & effort in washing conditioning cutting & dying their hair. I doubt the original poster's report.
AV.
CaliProhada great map:
https://mapsengine.google.com/map/viewer?mid=zW_noa9126aI.kampoQlaMeVE
Thanks for the great job! Anyone know of an updated map?
CaliProhada great map:
https://mapsengine.google.com/map/viewer?mid=zW_noa9126aI.kampoQlaMeVE
Thanks for the great job! Anyone know of an updated map?I might not be the only member here having serious doubts as to whether CaliAmateur has ever been to most of those places.
Asian Lover Oz
06-18-14, 13:54
Just back from a short 3 day jaunt to Manila. My 2nd visit there.
Last time I met an absolute pristine lady via FC so thought I'd try the same again this time.
Setup the account about 2 weeks from my trip and was armed with about 6 numbers to pursue during my time there.
Only managed to meet 1, a 24 yo spinner. No kids, great personality, gorgeous.
Met for lunch then back to my room for some BBBJ as she was on the rags, out to dinner and movies the next day.
Total sweetheart, but I was very self conscious walking around with her at Greenbelt on a Fri night. I'm 6 ft 3, almost double her age and double her size.
My first Burgos experience was generally disappointing. Overpriced and overaged for the large part.
Sure there are plenty of girls, and there are a few gems. Certainly better than what I'd seen at MBC on my previous trip.
Ended up bar fining a 23 yo from Plan B. Super friendly in the bar, but turned i after I'd fucked her. So set her loose. Damage $2.6 + $3 K.
The 3rd girl was from a casa run.
Got a taxi to take me to 2 places, once again generally really average quality, no superstars to be seen. But it was around 10 pm on a Sat night, so may have left my run too late.
Took a 19 yo back, but after 1 round I lost interest so sent her back. Damage $4 k.
I'd go back again, but prob just concentrate on the freebies / dating sites. And if struck out go for a quickie at one of the bars.
In some of the bars the girls where quite happy to play with my willy under the table for a drink.
Was tempted to try one of the "massage" girls on Burgos but never got around to it. 500 p seems like a reasonable deal if they put out for that?
Member #4566
06-18-14, 13:58
most girls learn quickly that there aren't too many Westerners who will marry them either. Sure, they'll talk a wonderful fantasy...But the facts don't support that. There are about 300,000 US citizens living in the PI. If you include EU and Ozzies, the number may double. A conservative estimate is that a half a million Westerners live in the PI. Probably almost all are men and when they get married, they marry a Filipina. Many of their mestizo children are put through the local school system. There is nothing too aloof about the Western expats in the PI.
On the other hand, consider the Korean expat community whose number is about 125,000. The men are usually alone leaving their wives and family at home. Those that do bring their families from Korea send their children to special schools. There is very little assimilation, integration, or cultural adjustment of Koreans to the Philippines. They have their own restaurants, churches, beauty salons, and on.
Korean men don't give a shit about Filipinas. You should enlighten the Filipina of all this the next time she shuns you in favor of a Korean.
Cool Traveler
06-18-14, 19:16
It is because, a lot of catch is exported out. There are three countries that buy up just about every fish, shrimp, snail, or anything that is edible out of the ocean. Japan, Korea and China. So, this makes local fare much more expensive.
With severely polluted ocean around Quezon, I would be very careful what I eat in the Phil.
There is an outdoor market with a few stalls selling live or fresh seafood near New Asia mall, and a dozen restaurants that cook the food for a fee. But the supplies are small, varieties limited, and prices are ridiculously high, like 5 x to 6 x average price in the US. WTF? The Phil are basically fishermen living on 1000's of islands in the middle of the Pacific. Why the fuck is their seafood so expensive? They pissed me off.
Went to a few fancy seafood restaurant on Ermita and Malate where food are sold by the 100 grams. Restaurants in the Phil are very plain and expensive and the foods are not so good.
Stick to the food courts in malls. They serve large varieties of authentic Filipino foods in clean environment that the locals like. Recommended...
Cool Traveler
06-18-14, 19:28
Koreans rarely marry out of their race. It is not a done thing. A kid will get ostracized, if dates or marries someone outside.
You make a point that the pinays seem to be more enamoured of say Koreans. Yet, Koreans do not marry Pinays as a rule. I think the same is true of Japanese. Koreans have an overwhelming cultural bias to marry other Koreans. It is rare that they venture outside their kind. It may not be as strong as the Japanese but I suspect they work almost the same.
However Westerners marry Pinays. We can really really like them well enough to bring them home to meet mom. These other guys can not. And that is the rub for the Pinay. We should remind our prospective Pinay partners, as we try to woo them away from our East Asian rivals, that we will marry you and they will never.
Cool Traveler
06-18-14, 19:39
Red Kilt:
You are right. I believe Chinese guys will overwhelm the system that we have painstakingly developed over the years. I travel back and forth between China and US about 6 times a year, and have an office in Ningbo and Shanghai. Not one day passes buy without a Chinese guy asking me, how are the girls in Phillipines. In China it is easy to get girls. The Karaoke is a great place. But you do need local people to take you. In the Karaoke bars, there are girls who will go back to your room. They usually spend the night for about 700 to a 1000 RMB. And the mamasan is informed, in advance of your intentions, so she will bring the girls that can go out during the beauty contest.
At Karaoke's in China, they parade all the girls, and you pick a girl for the night, as a drinking companion. Many a times, I have been able to take the phone number of my drinking companion, and have hooked up. These are working girls on low wages, college girls etc. But if you tell the mamasan in advance through your local guy, they will be a separate parade, of girls who need the money.
What has happened now, is the Chinese guys want to get out of China. Not just for the girls, but to get out, to go to another country. And part of getting out includes, girls. So, you are going to see more flights coming out of China, packed. Each person will save enough to make one trip, over a period of several years. And you take 100's of thousands of guys, and you are looking at a lot of trips. If you are in Phillipines, and you can set up a travel agency to cater for Chinese, you'd do well.
Just to add to what Hutsori said:
The Australia Network has been running lots of stories recently about the acute shortage of marriageable-age women in China now (read that as over-abundance of men) because of the one child policy and the (unconfirmed) probability that many female foetuses were aborted because families preferred having a male child as heir.
Two things are discussed in these documentaries:
One is that desperate parents are turning to other countries through dating sites (including so-called mail-order sites) to ensure that their sons marry and produce grandchildren for them, and whilst Philippines is not exactly flavor of the month they are prepared to accept anything...
Cool Traveler
06-18-14, 19:47
I used to work for a Korean tech company here in Los Angeles. If you were not Korean, you were not promoted. They went to extra length of bringing Koreans from Korea, which I had to train. Because of this, I made a lot of Korean friends. They are very ethnocentric. They rarely marry outside of their race. One of my friend dated a Chinese girl, and he had a lot of difficulties. Took a long time, before his family accepted him. The girl went to learn Korean, so she can understand all the jokes that the family was exchanging behind her back at her expense. My best friends sister married a Korean. She is a very beautiful Persian girl, and he, a dorky looking Korean guy. He is the only son. His parents disowned him, the day he married her. They had been dating for 7 years, from the time they were in high school. I can go on, with a lot of similar stories. But this is the gist of it. They just do not mix. And this is in the USA. So, I could just imagine how poorly Filipino's get treated. Unfortunately, money has a way of overlooking even the worst in us. I still have a lot of Korean friends, and I point it out to them every chance I get.
But the facts don't support that. There are about 300,000 US citizens living in the PI. If you include EU and Ozzies, the number may double. A conservative estimate is that a half a million Westerners live in the PI. Probably almost all are men and when they get married, they marry a Filipina. Many of their mestizo children are put through the local school system. There is nothing too aloof about the Western expats in the PI.
On the other hand, consider the Korean expat community whose number is about 125,000. The men are usually alone leaving their wives and family at home. Those that do bring their families from Korea send their children to special schools. There is very little assimilation, integration, or cultural adjustment of Koreans to the Philippines. They have their own restaurants, churches, beauty salons, and on.
Korean men don't give a shit about Filipinas. You should enlighten the Filipina of all this the next time she shuns you in favor of a Korean.
But the facts don't support that. There are about 300,000 US citizens living in the PI. If you include EU and Ozzies, the number may double. A conservative estimate is that a half a million Westerners live in the PI. Probably almost all are men and when they get married, they marry a Filipina. Many of their mestizo children are put through the local school system. There is nothing too aloof about the Western expats in the PI.
On the other hand, consider the Korean expat community whose number is about 125,000. The men are usually alone leaving their wives and family at home. Those that do bring their families from Korea send their children to special schools. There is very little assimilation, integration, or cultural adjustment of Koreans to the Philippines. They have their own restaurants, churches, beauty salons, and on.
Korean men don't give a shit about Filipinas. You should enlighten the Filipina of all this the next time she shuns you in favor of a Korean.Oh please. As if you really do?
So if you married a Filipino woman, you would gladly surrender yourself to the Filipino system, put your children in Filipino public schools etc?
Don't fall into the trap of "Asian men are rats, and I am the western hero" mindset. That's so out of date and lame. You've watched "Shogun" too many times.
Just to ask.
Has anyone here actually ever ASKED a Filipino woman why East Asian men are preferred?
Traveler1234
06-18-14, 20:46
But the facts don't support that. There are about 300,000 US citizens living in the PI. If you include EU and Ozzies, the number may double. A conservative estimate is that a half a million Westerners live in the PI. Probably almost all are men and when they get married, they marry a Filipina. Not sure of your logic. Westerners that live there are of the marrying age whereas Asians are already married, really?
On the contrary, the only single westerners that re-locate there are 'probably' middle age or older, divorced and / or couldn't get laid back home and looking for easy pussy. LOL!
Oh please. As if you really do?
Don't fall into the trap of "Asian men are rats, and I am the western hero" mindset. That's so out of date and lame. You've watched "Shogun" too many times.
Well said.
Pip Jaeger
06-18-14, 23:25
Just to ask.
Has anyone here actually ever ASKED a Filipino woman why East Asian men are preferred?Yep, I have asked and the overwhelming response was: "3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand pesos!
Yep, I have asked and the overwhelming response was: "3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand pesos!Same response from lady in Bangkok too. Very funny!
Member #4566
06-19-14, 05:59
Oh please. As if you really do?
So if you married a Filipino woman, you would gladly surrender yourself to the Filipino system, put your children in Filipino public schools etc?
Don't fall into the trap of "Asian men are rats, and I am the western hero" mindset. That's so out of date and lame. You've watched "Shogun" too many times.You don't know that I have already done exactly that, rearing a family in the Filipino manner now do you?
Member #4566
06-19-14, 06:20
Unfortunately, money has a way of overlooking even the worst in us. A lot of ISG posters allude to all the money that Koreans have. Not so. Note well that many of the Korean businesses in Angeles were bankrolled by the Korean Gov't. They encourage overseas investment while the US Gov't discourages it.
Here is the hypocrisy. . On the one hand The Korean Gov't loves to remind the Japanese that they trafficked Korean women in WWII; the so-called comfort women for the Japanese soldiers. On the other hand, the Korean Gov't is knowingly financing the prostitution (trafficking) of Filipinas. If the International Justice Mission wants to stop so-called trafficking let them take their fight to Seoul Korea.
You don't know that I have already done exactly that, rearing a family in the Filipino manner now do you?Gee. The unverifiable defense. How clever. (groan).
Yep, I have asked and the overwhelming response was: "3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand pesos!And yet they are still choosing them over you. What does that say about you? That you don't have 3000 pesos?
Heh, heh! I bet you thought you were being clever. Just set them up so I can knock them down!
A lot of ISG posters allude to all the money that Koreans have. Not so. Note well that many of the Korean businesses in Angeles were bankrolled by the Korean Gov't. They encourage overseas investment while the US Gov't discourages it.
Here is the hypocrisy. . On the one hand The Korean Gov't loves to remind the Japanese that they trafficked Korean women in WWII; the so-called comfort women for the Japanese soldiers. On the other hand, the Korean Gov't is knowingly financing the prostitution (trafficking) of Filipinas. If the International Justice Mission wants to stop so-called trafficking let them take their fight to Seoul Korea.Even if the Korean govt was bankrolling some of these businesses, which I seriously doubt, bankrolling an operation isn't the same as kidnapping and slavery.
Is this the best you got? Seriously. Is this what you tell yourself in your head? Lame.
And yet they are still choosing them over you. What does that say about you? That you don't have 3000 pesos?
Heh, heh! I bet you thought you were being clever. Just set them up so I can knock them down!Actually, I think that it shows that you do not understand the meaning behind the expression (which is very common throughout Asia).
Whether the expression is true or not is another issue!!
But the facts don't support that. There are about 300,000 US citizens living in the PI. If you include EU and Ozzies, the number may double. A conservative estimate is that a half a million Westerners live in the PI. Probably almost all are men and when they get married, they marry a Filipina. Many of their mestizo children are put through the local school system. There is nothing too aloof about the Western expats in the PI.
On the other hand, consider the Korean expat community whose number is about 125,000. The men are usually alone leaving their wives and family at home. Those that do bring their families from Korea send their children to special schools. There is very little assimilation, integration, or cultural adjustment of Koreans to the Philippines. They have their own restaurants, churches, beauty salons, and on.
Korean men don't give a shit about Filipinas. You should enlighten the Filipina of all this the next time she shuns you in favor of a Korean.Most of the US citizens you're thinking of are Filipino Americans. Though it may be insensitive of me to think this way, my comment about Western punters didn't consider Fil-Ams in this mix. Of course you'll find some ethnic Filipino male customers in LA Cafe and other similar establishments, but for the most part they are a small minority. They have many more opportunities elsewhere, KTVs and videokes often being places of their preference.
Of the Koreans many are uni aged here for English education. There are also many youngsters here accompanied by their mothers or grandmothers whilst the father remains in Korea earning an income to support the family. Koreans comprise the largest number of foreign tourists here. Overwhelming so. And a great number are men visiting for sex and golf. The large number of Kopinos in the Philippines tell us seeds have been planted far and wide.
Of the Koreans who marry Pinays many of these men are poor farmers and labourers who are largely shunned by Korean women; since 2000, 236,000 foreign women have settled in South Korea through marriage. Using marriage brokers they find spouses overseas and these women relocate to Korea. For several years Filipinas were amongst the top choice (largely due to the ease it was for the initial Korean marriage brokers to communicate with women in English), but they have been replaced by Vietnamese who are more Confucian and better able to adapt to Korea's culture. Moreover, their lack of English skills means they are less likely to abscond from their Korean spouses and find work to support themselves.
Now, why you're going on about marriage... who knows? Marriage wasn't the gist of my comment. The original post was explaining some of the reasons why there are fewer and fewer very attractive p4p girls at places like LA Cafe. In a nutshell, the environment has changed and these girls have other opportunities.
Hi guys,
Why can't I find any posts in here about places like Butterfly, G-Point, Hussy's, Red Rooster and so on that are all in that area? I just past those places when I walked around while going to Manila for the first time. Some guys tried to show me the way in but I hesitated. What are your experiences in those places?
Just to ask.
Has anyone here actually ever ASKED a Filipino woman why East Asian men are preferred?I have. Pretty much the same reason any menial worker prefers one employer over another: less work for more money. :P
I haven't found any who stated they enjoyed the shouting and punching yet. And the spitting doesn't score high marks either.
Wow! Read forum before the trip. All prepared to pay for play. Learned quickly though. Robinson's is like a wide open candy store where the candy is free! A smile and a coffee at Starbuck's got me girl after girl, day after day. No. I'm not young and handsome, but had 19 - 29 year old amateurs every day during my 2 week stay! I revisited the days of my youth. Hallelujah Manila!
Econo Tech
06-19-14, 14:17
Korean men don't give a shit about Filipinas. You should enlighten the Filipina of all this the next time she shuns you in favor of a Korean.Koreans leave their wives behind?
You been to Baguio?
About enlightening Filipinas are you serious?
Or have you even dealt with Filipinas? I dealt with many and the vast majority have the attention span of a 3 month puppy and they are as stubborn as you can imagine.
For example get a Filipina to admit Marcos was a thief. And see the reaction.
Member #4387
06-19-14, 22:27
Wow! Read forum before the trip. All prepared to pay for play. Learned quickly though. Robinson's is like a wide open candy store where the candy is free! A smile and a coffee at Starbuck's got me girl after girl, day after day. No. I'm not young and handsome, but had 19 - 29 year old amateurs every day during my 2 week stay! I revisited the days of my youth. Hallelujah Manila!We can all there. But what you do is actually just beeing an "old" turd or young. For me through your post you only comes forward as a cheap charlie or poor guy/man(you choose as I don't know which one is true). That is basically my comment.
Actually, I think that it shows that you do not understand the meaning behind the expression (which is very common throughout Asia).
Whether the expression is true or not is another issue!!I could care less about whether Filipino women like Koreans versus westerners. I just think its lame that many of the latter feel the need to disparage Koreans and Filipinas. You guys are just sore losers, and ruin the reputation for more respectful and open-minded American punters.
Complain about girls in the US. Complain about girls in the Phillipines. Complain about the Koreans.
Maybe YOU are the problem.
Wow! Read forum before the trip. All prepared to pay for play. Learned quickly though. Robinson's is like a wide open candy store where the candy is free! A smile and a coffee at Starbuck's got me girl after girl, day after day. No. I'm not young and handsome, but had 19 - 29 year old amateurs every day during my 2 week stay! I revisited the days of my youth. Hallelujah Manila!Congrats and welcome to the Land of Manila Thrillas, Ingle. Well done.
Hi guys,
Why can't I find any posts in here about places like Butterfly, G-Point,. What are your experiences in those places?I was in G Point for lunch a couple of weeks ago. Their buffet is so-so, the tacos are great and once in a while a hottie comes in but I have never scored from there. I'm sure other guys who have been there more have.
Pinaypounder
06-19-14, 23:59
Yep, I have asked and the overwhelming response was: "3 inches, 3 minutes, 3 thousand pesos!In Thailand is was 4 inches, 4 minutes 4 thousand baht.
Luckily the older girls actually love fucking and most don't like the fact most asian men smoke and treat them like shit! I like getting one later that had made her money already and was now ready for an actual fuck and they are fine once you get past the "used part" just kidding, sort of.
PP.
Hi guys,
Why can't I find any posts in here about places like Butterfly, G-Point, Hussy's, Red Rooster and so on that are all in that area? I just past those places when I walked around while going to Manila for the first time. Some guys tried to show me the way in but I hesitated. What are your experiences in those places?Never been in Butterfly and if I haven't been there, then there's got to be a reason as I lived about 1 km from there for quite awhile but never heard anybody talk about the place. Hussy's is a dump and I never saw a woman in the place that didn't look like trash. Parenthetically, is Hussy's still there? Red Rooster charged me something like 320 php for a drink. Girls there were also fugly and I'd never give them a centavo of mine in the future due to what they charged me. I've walked by there many times since then and never gave a thought about going in. G Point is much nicer than either Hussy's or Red Rooster with some decent looking women sometimes. Drink prices are half of what they charged me at Red Rooster. At happy hour, they're 20 php if you want rot gut gin or vodka but you have to buy your own mixer. I'll go there sometimes during happy hour, have the rot gut Gilby's and sit by the windows and watch the world go by. As I live here in Candyland, there's no urgency in locating women. My preference is to just sit in a reasonably civilized bar and relax. I'm actually heading into Manila again today and will do the walking tour starting at LA Cafe before the sun goes down.
In your walks Rogin, you've probably passed many other places. So have I, but most I just won't go into as I require some degree of civilization. Even LA Cafe has a little bit of that.
Pinaypounder
06-20-14, 00:35
Manila is horrible, the traffic the lack of culture, the traffic, the pollution, the shit streets, the poverty, it has bright spots and it has good women. But please don't ever think you are headed here for any reason other than fucking or working. Outside of manila is better but it sure aint Thailand.
If they did not speak English I would never ever set foot there again. There are good and bad women of course but the general inability to provide decent service where your average Grocery Store Clerk has a university degree is simply absurd. I have many friends there but their lets not get it done attitude drive me nuts. Good family values is the only thing in their culture I really like that and they support their man.
Thailand is my happy place it has it all, Singapore is world class want to explore more but work ties me to Phils.
I have been to Manila at least 15 times and HATE IT!
PP.
WestCoast1
06-20-14, 01:31
I have been to Manila at least 15 times and HATE IT!
PP.Me too.
Looks like I'll be hating it again very soon!
Skogis,
I'm neither. But apparently you fit into my 2 categories. Why pay for old pro when young amateurs are readily available for free? And they enjoy it. Not just after the money!
I have been reading the forum in anticipation of my trip to Manila. I have been ready to complain about feeling teased by all the posts and feeling terrible that I am here and some of you are there making hay while the sun shines (or where the sun don't shine). I can't wait to be there be there to draw my own conclusions. Considering the number and quality of the posts, I'm sure that the must be some good there! As an old fart I am looking forward to fishing at the Robinson Mall for young nubile fillies.
Hmmmm so many positive posts. Thanks to everyone's info. Keep on posting HAPPY HUNTING FRED.
Me too.
Looks like I'll be hating it again very soon!
Manila is horrible, the traffic the lack of culture, the traffic, the pollution, the shit streets, the poverty, it has bright spots and it has good women. But please don't ever think you are headed here for any reason other than fucking or working. Outside of manila is better but it sure aint Thailand.
If they did not speak English I would never ever set foot there again. There are good and bad women of course but the general inability to provide decent service where your average Grocery Store Clerk has a university degree is simply absurd. I have many friends there but their lets not get it done attitude drive me nuts. Good family values is the only thing in their culture I really like that and they support their man.
Thailand is my happy place it has it all, Singapore is world class want to explore more but work ties me to Phils.
I have been to Manila at least 15 times and HATE IT!
PP.Agree with everything you say except the family values bit. In fact it seems that the lack of family values fuels the bar industry, since about 50% of the dancing girls are single mothers and plenty I have boyfriends or husbands that they go home to after a night of dancing in Burgos or Edsa.
To the guy who thinks I was lying about the head lice all I can say is that I have absolutely no reason or motivation to lie about that sort of thing; and I wouldn't know the word "kuto" if I hadn't heard it directly from the woman's mouth.
Can anyone honestly positively compare Manila to Bangkok? The latter is infinitely a better city in basically any thing you can measure.
Can anyone honestly positively compare Manila go go bars to Bangkok go go bars? Better quality at lower prices in Bangkok to be sure, and a lot less stretch marked baby stomachs. I guess the English and higher possibility for a GFE is a plus for a lot of guys. If I wanted a GFE I'd get a gf.
The huge advantage of Manila is obviously the ease of scoring freebies. It doesn't take much at all. But like I said that ease makes going to the bars even less sensible. Why pay 200 US dollars when you get can the same thing for free? Unless you speak the language, such a thing is much more difficult in Thailand (or Vietnam or Cambodia) so scoring hot young women in the bars makes more sense for visitors, especially since the price is up to 20 times cheaper.
Wow! Robinson's is like a wide open candy store where the candy is free! That can be said for about the whole country. The most important question is of course "How's the quality"?
Born Ripper
06-20-14, 09:55
Hi guys,
I've been to Manila a couple of times and only visited Burgos street. Bars like bottoms, Moulin Rouge etc have gotten very expensive. They rip you off with the lady drinks and then the heavy bar fines + tip. I was wondering about the quality of girls in EDSA compared to the bars in burgos and the rates? I am not into too much chatting before the hook up so MBC is not an option right? More into lets slam a few drinks and get to room Also any other areas / bars worth checking out?
Any feedback will be helpful.
GoodEnough
06-20-14, 09:57
Manila is horrible, the traffic the lack of culture, the traffic, the pollution, the shit streets, the poverty, it has bright spots and it has good women. But please don't ever think you are headed here for any reason other than fucking or working. Outside of manila is better but it sure aint Thailand.
I have been to Manila at least 15 times and HATE IT!
PP.I get it. But I have to admit that Makati, around the Greenbelt area, has somewhat grown on me, and if I could remain in the one sq. Km. Area with Greenbelt at the center, and never had to drive more than a kilometer, I could tolerate the city somewhat easily. Unfortunately that's not possible for me, and so I need to plunge into he squalor, paralyzing traffic and general anarchy almost every day I'm there. I'm typically in Manila 3-4 days most weeks and find by the end of hose periods I'm exhausted, less because of work than because of enervation of commuting. Unfortunately the inefficiencies of service are ubiquitous throughout the country, so there's no relief by escaping Manila.
GE.
Wicked Roger
06-20-14, 09:59
We can all there. But what you do is actually just beeing an "old" turd or young. For me through your post you only comes forward as a cheap charlie or poor guy/man(you choose as I don't know which one is true). That is basically my comment.I think he missed the numerous FRs from yourself, me, David33 and others about the shyness of pinays and the fact they are 'ashamed' to ask for even taxi money. Based on the assumption we are not cheap charlies and we are kind and respectful (albeit it horny and kinky at times). This sort of behavior (and subsequent FRs) gives us a harder time as these amateurs will tell their friends and they may think all westerners are cheap and poor.
Good FR Skogis.
Member #4387
06-20-14, 12:33
Skogis,
I'm neither. But apparently you fit into my 2 categories. Why pay for old pro when young amateurs are readily available for free? And they enjoy it. Not just after the money!Have Calipro reappeared under a new nick I wonder? I do fine no worries. Simular MO as the fine gentleman you are. Only I compensate.
Member #4387
06-20-14, 12:41
I get it. But I have to admit that Makati, around the Greenbelt area, has somewhat grown on me, and if I could remain in the one sq. Km. Area with Greenbelt at the center, and never had to drive more than a kilometer, I could tolerate the city somewhat easily. Unfortunately that's not possible for me, and so I need to plunge into he squalor, paralyzing traffic and general anarchy almost every day I'm there. I'm typically in Manila 3-4 days most weeks and find by the end of hose periods I'm exhausted, less because of work than because of enervation of commuting. Unfortunately the inefficiencies of service are ubiquitous throughout the country, so there's no relief by escaping Manila.
GE.I highly agree with you when it comes to your comments on Makati. Here life is relatively simular and efficiant as in the west we are used to. I call it I have created myself a safehaven, Makati surrounded by walls and I stay allways within those perimeters with only small excursions into The Fort and Resort World and the from now on T3. T3 and Makati are located so close as I normaly now save like 30-45 min travelling time (from T2/ T1). That is almost a pop. The bad thing about T3 is that only Cebu Pacific flies here (with minor exceptions as ANA and this autumn I believe Emirates and a few others will change to T3) and from Europe you have to collect luggage and check in all over again at your designated transfering airport (in my case mostly BKK). But it is worth it.
Wicked Roger
06-20-14, 19:17
Have Calipro reappeared under a new nick I wonder? I do fine no worries. Simular MO as the fine gentleman you are. Only I compensate.Well, he has 10 FRs in approximately 8 years so unlikely but you are right Skogis in that it sounds the same MO. Young brash, thinks he is a good shagger etc. Good observation.
But why do many of these posters originate from South America? Getting bored in that thread?
http://kickerdaily.com/19-females-rescued-from-alleged-sex-den-in-pasay/
LukeSkywalker
06-20-14, 21:49
Even karaoke bars are nailed for [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908).
What's left for the bros?
http://kickerdaily.com/19-females-rescued-from-alleged-sex-den-in-pasay/
Member #4387
06-21-14, 09:10
I think he missed the numerous FRs from yourself, me, David33 and others about the shyness of pinays and the fact they are 'ashamed' to ask for even taxi money. Based on the assumption we are not cheap charlies and we are kind and respectful (albeit it horny and kinky at times). This sort of behavior (and subsequent FRs) gives us a harder time as these amateurs will tell their friends and they may think all westerners are cheap and poor.
Good FR Skogis.Yes and this is extremely important knowledge. I remember first time in Manila. I was hitting back then Robinson shopping mall Malate and a girl smiling at me joined me back to my room. I was in a way prepared as I did a lot of RTFF's and simular preperations but and there was a big but; I did not know back then about the shynessthing pinays are dealing with. After banging and she was about to leave I did not hear a single word from the girl regarding any money others than she told she was low on cash and hoped I had some small bills for her taxi (as she according to herself was going home). Then it hit me, luckely, what the fuck am I about to do here. The ego thing in me ofcourse wants every girl out there to like me and maby pay me bcs i am so nice chap, hehe, as i give them a great bang but I chose anyway to compensate her for real and not only with 200 piso (in my standards that is next to nothing). I don't remember the exact ammount today but I am sure it was in line with 1 or 2 k. That felt good.
Pinays seems to love sex but even how easy it is to bed them girls we should not be pricks and exploit this. Dealing with girls up there in the social life scale is another matter. Just saying.
So like Calipro and this Inglewood guy we will allways have them around. But i agree if these things blooms the real punters will have trouble getting girls as they eventualy will start disbelieve westerners.
To many pinays you can only say i want to have relationship with you or even worse i will marry you. Lies like that will get you free bangs. It is no art it is just pure evil..
Manila is horrible, the traffic the lack of culture, the traffic, the pollution, the shit streets, the poverty, it has bright spots and it has good women. But please don't ever think you are headed here for any reason other than fucking or working. Outside of manila is better but it sure aint Thailand.
I have been to Manila at least 15 times and HATE IT!
PP.Where do you think the best place is to go OUTSIDE of Manila? I went to Cebu and was unimpressed, and everyone seems to be doggedly criticizing AC these days.
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