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D Cups
06-21-14, 14:47
Where do you think the best place is to go OUTSIDE of Manila? I went to Cebu and was unimpressed, and everyone seems to be doggedly criticizing AC these days.All of these places are what you make them. If you can't have a good time anywhere in the Philippines it is your own damn fault. This place is crawling with the finest babes on the planet. I personally like Dumaguete and the little suburb of Valencia just west of there but it is not a mongering destination per se. Southern Cebu is gorgeous but again BYO. It would be great to do a comprehensive monger study of all the Philippine Islands.

Manny51
06-21-14, 15:02
All of these places are what you make them. If you can't have a good time anywhere in the Philippines it is your own damn fault. This place is crawling with the finest babes on the planet. I personally like Dumaguete and the little suburb of Valencia just west of there but it is not a mongering destination per se. Southern Cebu is gorgeous but again BYO. It would be great to do a comprehensive monger study of all the Philippine Islands.I appreciate your input, but try not to be so self-righteous. So are you saying that Dumaguete is a good tourist destination, but not a punting destination? Can you clarify?

D Cups
06-21-14, 15:47
I appreciate your input, but try not to be so self-righteous. So are you saying that Dumaguete is a good tourist destination, but not a punting destination? Can you clarify?OK, Hi Manny, Duma is a good place to live and ok to visit. They have a nice forest with cool natural pools and hot springs just west of there if you like that sort of thing. There are lots of Western expats there. It has scuba on nearby Apo Island if you like that. Not so great for mongering comparatively but I have never had difficulty there finding a cutie to cuddle up with from Why Not Bar or the boulevard or mall. Nearby Siquijor Island is fun, too. I rented a motorbike and did the whole island in a day and it was fun. I think Southern Cebu eg. , Dalaguete (recommend Ocean Bay Resort), Alcoy (recommend Bodo's Bamboo Bar) is also a great tourist area (take aircon bus, real cheap) but you have to bring a girl from Cebu City because it is definitely in the provinces. Cebu City, like Manila, is horrible traffic, pollution, dirty, beggars, etc. But line up some DIAs and hit the malls for fun. The LA Cafe in Manila is still the best bar on the planet IMO. If you can't get laid by at least a 6 in there you must be hideous and wreak of odor. They have San Miguel lemon, too, which is my fave. AC there are cuties everywhere. Just get a nice hotel (I like Orchid Inn) and start trolling for trollops: they are everywhere! To me the beauty of the Philippines lie in the sweet, sexy, easy Pinays, inexpensive accomodations, lack of language barrier and genuine friendliness. To me it is heaven on earth. I try to ignore all the other bullshit and focus on the plentiful positives. It helps that I play guitar and make many friends that way. The Filipinas are quite musical people. Have fun, Manny, make it what you want it to be!

Wicked Roger
06-21-14, 19:43
Where do you think the best place is to go OUTSIDE of Manila? I went to Cebu and was unimpressed, and everyone seems to be doggedly criticizing AC these days.Really unimpressed with Cebu, lets know why as if you don't like Cebu go to AC as more your place IMHO as Cebu is for those with patience and class IMHO LOL. Please no comments that is rhetorical LOL.

Manny51
06-22-14, 04:01
Really unimpressed with Cebu, lets know why as if you don't like Cebu go to AC as more your place IMHO as Cebu is for those with patience and class IMHO LOL. Please no comments that is rhetorical LOL.So I guess that you are one of guys with patience and class? LOL! Why don't you try and learn to write in proper English.

Slippery
06-22-14, 04:38
So I guess that you are one of guys with patience and class? LOL! Why don't you try and learn to write in proper English.And Manny, why don't you learn to practice what you preach? Your first sentence ends with a question mark but certainly isn't phrased as a question. Perhaps ISG's voice inflection app isn't working properly. Why start needless pissing matches?

Member #4387
06-22-14, 09:26
So I guess that you are one of guys with patience and class? LOL! Why don't you try and learn to write in proper English.Like WR I am sure my english is not perfect as well. This is due to english only beeing our second language. If you are so "lucky" to be brought up in a english speaking country, good on you, but to attack another punter for his english skills is realy not what this forum should be all about, ok? When you have nothing else to attack then take the language skills, great job (ironic). But no this is running well OT. Just saying and back to pussies.

FLT09
06-22-14, 12:27
Have Calipro reappeared under a new nick I wonder? I do fine no worries. Simular MO as the fine gentleman you are. Only I compensate.Calipro reappeared on the Korea forums about a week ago. He made some outlandish comment about not picking up korean girls and just sleeping with filipina factory workers. No clue where in Korea he is or was living. Just thought I'd throw that out there, he is still using that name, at least from time to time.

FLT.

Wicked Roger
06-22-14, 17:26
Calipro reappeared on the Korea forums about a week ago. He made some outlandish comment about not picking up korean girls and just sleeping with filipina factory workers. No clue where in Korea he is or was living. Just thought I'd throw that out there, he is still using that name, at least from time to time.

FLT.Calipro 'boasted' he was a teacher in South Korea but likely is not Seoul as I think the factories are well away form the capital. But good to see he is as respectful as was to pinay in the Philippines LOL.

FreebieFan
06-23-14, 01:55
And Manny, why don't you learn to practice what you preach? Your first sentence ends with a question mark but certainly isn't phrased as a question. Perhaps ISG's voice inflection app isn't working properly. Why start needless pissing matches?Hear Hear. Seconded. Like. Etc. Skogis makes good and valuable and interesting contribution on several of the Philippines and Thai boards. Hopefully you also do the same. I beleive the I in ISG stands for International. That means our members are international in their nature and that means that spelling in the language of the board isn't always perfect. So what. We all understand every word Skogis writes.

Maybe you should go to the India and Malaysia boards to see use of word, sentence construction, abbreviation, shortened words and spellings that defy the imagination.

Skogis 2, Manny 0.

WestCoast1
06-23-14, 02:17
And Manny, why don't you learn to practice what you preach? Your first sentence ends with a question mark but certainly isn't phrased as a question. Perhaps ISG's voice inflection app isn't working properly. Why start needless pissing matches?Have heard a lot of brits, aussies, americans, canadians, and others speak the language. Not sure what 'proper' means anymore. When I was in college I thought I knew what proper english was, but then I grew up.

A few days ago I gave a pinay her first ever anal experience. On the in-strokes she would inhale sharply. On the outstroke she would proclaim: "Oh my got!" Given the circumstance, I'd say that was a proper use of english!


Calipro reappeared on the Korea forums about a week ago. He made some outlandish comment about not picking up korean girls and just sleeping with filipina factory workers. No clue where in Korea he is or was living. Just thought I'd throw that out there, he is still using that name, at least from time to time.
FLT.He was certainly full of himself back then on the phils board. All those outlandish claims. Said he would post some FR's from his upcoming trip to phils. Now appears to be another all-talk-no-action guy.

CaliPro where are you?

FreebieFan
06-23-14, 03:00
Calipro 'boasted' he was a teacher in South Korea but likely is not Seoul as I think the factories are well away form the capital. But good to see he is as respectful as was to pinay in the Philippines LOL.WR, as you, me, and other long term members of this board know, there are some who come, talk a great game and totally fail to deliver.

Sort of reminds me of the English football team.

Maybe he came to Manila and totally failed to score and took the early flight home. Same as England!

His Pinay fans are probably in their dormitory rooms chanting Cali-pro, Cali-pro, Cali-pro as we speak.

GoodEnough
06-23-14, 10:29
Hear Hear. Seconded. Like. Etc. Skogis makes good and valuable and interesting contribution on several of the Philippines and Thai boards. Hopefully you also do the same. I beleive the I in ISG stands for International. That means our members are international in their nature and that means that spelling in the language of the board isn't always perfect. So what. We all understand every word Skogis writes.

Maybe you should go to the India and Malaysia boards to see use of word, sentence construction, abbreviation, shortened words and spellings that defy the imagination.

Skogis 2, Manny 0.I'm with Freebie. I was an undergraduate English major and used to have very firm ideas about what constituted "proper" English. Then I got to graduate school, studied a little about Linguistics, and have lived outside the States for the better part of 3 decades, listening and working with folks from Oz, New Zealand, the UK, Canada and various part of the US, not to mention the Phils and Malaysia and Singapore. Now, I figure as long as I can undstand it, it's proper.

GE.

Member #4387
06-23-14, 12:34
I'm with Freebie. I was an undergraduate English major and used to have very firm ideas about what constituted "proper" English. Then I got to graduate school, studied a little about Linguistics, and have lived outside the States for the better part of 3 decades, listening and working with folks from Oz, New Zealand, the UK, Canada and various part of the US, not to mention the Phils and Malaysia and Singapore. Now, I figure as long as I can undstand it, it's proper.

GE.Not that this was directed at me in the beginning of this debate. But I find it comforting that the seasoned punters here don't take note in misspellings and bad linguistics. As long as we can understand information given or provided to the board that what's counts. I just felt sorry for the bloke attacked in the first case here so I just did want to give him my support. Stuffs like this will make less contributions as people will be cautious to post as they can be afraid beeing attacked by fine gents borned and raised in english speaking countries. Not all of us are that lucky (no pun intented, hehe).

X Man
06-23-14, 12:55
Never forget the first time I went bar hopping (pub crawl) with some Ozzies. The guy says he was pissed. I took a step back wondering what I'd done wrong. But he didn't seem angry. When he trotted off to the loo, I realized he just wanted to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). It's funny how those Australians weird up the language X.


I'm with Freebie. I was an undergraduate English major and used to have very firm ideas about what constituted "proper" English. Then I got to graduate school, studied a little about Linguistics, and have lived outside the States for the better part of 3 decades, listening and working with folks from Oz, New Zealand, the UK, Canada and various part of the US, not to mention the Phils and Malaysia and Singapore. Now, I figure as long as I can undstand it, it's proper.

GE.

Member #4387
06-23-14, 14:07
First I am on a high these days as my gf and newborn and her family on the mother side are residing in Spain for the moment. It is relaxing for gf and baby. I, myself, lives a busy life trying to put in as much mongering I am possible capable of with only small divertions into spain and the family vacationhouse.

Have been on a role lately with 3 trips into Makati in 6 weeks (7, 5 and 4 days). The latter just finished today (sadly due to lurking and informing members I have to write reports off scene). But took an early Cebu flight from MNL T3 (hazzlefree) into BKK where I stay a couple of days inspecting if any new talent arrived into the BKK nightlife scene (and I bet it has).

Makati, Ascott 19 to 23.6 2014 was a busy one, 2 days of full mongering and 2 days part rime mongering in between baby monetoring. 10 girls met from my portifolia of datingsitecontacts and one I hit up on ground just creating a new profile (dia babe).

One pocket full of excuses, small lies (thank you freebiefan) allways comes in handy. But I will in the photogallery come back to more details as I now just have the rawmaterial but due to lurkers and the girls safety I will brush them pics a tad.

I sat a new record of 5 girls in one day (morning, midday, afternoon, late eve and a stay the night girl). Not so much pounding power left for the last one but new encounters / new girls makes the body and mind forget about the last one. Spilled only blancos on the last one though.

The most challenging one was actually the on site Dia girl I made come meet me. I am not very found of Angeles but she told me she just was a student there(she used Makati as place of residence in her profile bcs i allways look up that first). She send me pics from her at Clark Airport doing check ins, doing on tarmak work for a Emirates flight (while they still flew there), so her studying tourism / teavel studies might have been genuine. She admitted she had been to Hi So twice with friends (ofcourse) but browsing Hi so pics I did not see her. She send me pics as well from Hi So. She was looking mighty sexy. So probably not a BG but a student wanting a WU was my impression of her. The laim excuse for her using Makati as base was she had a "sister" living there.. I probably never will know.

I told her ok you can come my Ascott hotel. She arrived late around midnight and I have rarely met such a nice spinner. Well spoken, sexy, but not hooker like, dressed. 24 yo. I now by now that buying some "white sinfandells" Beeringer brand (Cal, US), rose wine, makes the girls crazy. It is only a tad stronger than the red horse they are used to but they feel appreciated to some extent. She got tipsy and we ended up fucking, with curtains open viewing the highrise Shangri-la hotel (my livingrooms side floor to ceiling window showed it all for lurkers, hehe). Great experience and quite a view while shagging from behind she just standing on all 4 infront of the wondow. She might have been a student, bargirl or whatever. I don't care as long as meet outside the barenvironment. But she was no virgin I tell you that as I try so many difficult possitions so newbees would not know to handle their legs and arms but she did.

She got ofcourse a fair fee / compensation travelling that long a distance to visit me in Makati even as usual never regariding this issue was discussed upfront.

I know many people hate the thought of this and I vaigly remember threads discussing this matter before without any conclusion to be drawn but I feel the Ascott experience gives the girl an extra curiosness. Most of them don't have a clue where it is even if I try to pin point the girls close by or in Makati (some of the real Makati based knows this hotel and they by far know the entrance to Glorietta 4 mall as they are girls). To girls not knowing I simply ask them to google Ascott Makati (they find a decent pic of the place and the adress, better than me explaining). They seems to go all "OMG do you actually live there". I find it not that posh but I find it better than other simulars like Shangri-la and Fairmont (fairmont much due to my friends gf also live there so she could not handle all my in and outs with girls, they live in the Raffles part). And to a fair price at Ascott, cheaper than Fairmont (smaller rooms) you get yourself a 88 sqm for 8 to 10 k piso a night. The girls like it and sometimes hard to get them to leave. I am not so egosentric that I think it is bcs of me, hehe blame it on the staying place.

A fair girl. Reports from the others will follow. Quite a few funny things happened this time as well.

Pip Jaeger
06-23-14, 14:07
Never forget the first time I went bar hopping (pub crawl) with some Ozzies. The guy says he was pissed. I took a step back wondering what I'd done wrong. But he didn't seem angry. When he trotted off to the loo, I realized he just wanted to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). It's funny how those Australians weird up the language X.I thought the Aussie / Brit term "pissed" meant they had too many beers and were drunk. But that being the case it would also explain his sudden need to run off to the CR, LOL.

Disclaimer: Sorry for any spelling mistakes MF1, English is not my native language and the auto correct function here doesn't seem to always work right.

Red Kilt
06-23-14, 14:24
I thought the Aussie / Brit term "pissed" meant they had too many beers and were drunk. But that being the case it would also explain his sudden need to run off to the CR, LOL.
In Australiaspeak, also known as "Strine", "pissed" means "I have drunk too much"; "pissed off" means I am angry about something (just so we are all clear).

Wicked Roger
06-23-14, 16:59
So I guess that you are one of guys with patience and class? LOL! Why don't you try and learn to write in proper English.Manny,

I do when it matters, you don't matter as others have pointed out so refreshingly, this a board not a business letter etc.

Reminds me of a great line in 'Scent of a Woman' with Al Pacino when asked by his son in law why he always got the name of his (ie the son in law) company wrong he replied "because you are not important enough to get it right" LOL.

NuruBoy
06-23-14, 17:32
I been getting a few messages from we chat and girls telling me they want to come to my room. Is this safe?

I live in a 5 Star Hotel with security though but when I tell them I meet them at lobby first, all refuse. Why?

Pip Jaeger
06-23-14, 23:36
I been getting a few messages from we chat and girls telling me they want to come to my room. Is this safe?

I live in a 5 Star Hotel with security though but when I tell them I meet them at lobby first, all refuse. Why?They're probably lady boys and they know you'd have them thrown out if they came up to your room. Never give your room number out on that type of venue. Period.

Having said that, I did use WeChat successfully in Cebu and met a few girls, but I met all of them in a public place first. So don't discount the app, I particularly liked that it shows how far away you are from other users and that we could often meet up in a matter of minutes. But always remember to first ask if she's 100% girl.

Pekkakoo
06-24-14, 02:31
i been getting a few messages from we chat and girls telling me they want to come to my room. is this safe?

i live in a 5 star hotel with security though but when i tell them i meet them at lobby first, all refuse. why?it happened to me that i started chatting to a girl from we chat and she suddenly almost in the beginning said that she offers massage in the room for 500 pesos. i gave her my hotel and room info and then the receptionist called me that your "therapist" was there. i said ok and they sent her up. she was like her pic and probably the age of 27 was also true. single, no children. massage, nothing else will happen she said first but then it was a bit hot in the room and she took off her shirt. i got also horny when being massaged when i was naked and promised her a "little bit more". so ended up fucking her bb which was ok "please don't come inside, promise" and then i came on her stomach. gave her 2000 and it was a good experience, i am still thinking about it and her and sometimes she still messages me calling me her "husband". i guess i told her i was looking for a gf too.

i don't know if i was too careless, i don't know if something bad could have happened. was it risky or not. i had nothing to steal from and all valuables were in the safe but i don't know if i should have trusted a stranger like that. maybe not wise in the philippines.

Econo Tech
06-24-14, 04:47
than i decide to try wechat, here is where disaster strikes. i want to warn all bros here. the pic on a wechat is such a hottie. ask her to came to my hotel. hotel security called me says i have a guest, if i allow her to come out. my door bell rings, peep thru the door hole. can't see anything, as blocked by her hair. i open door, she rush in. can't really see clearly. she rush and sit on the bed. the room is dim, so i can't really see. on further observation. oh my gosh. a lady boy. a real ugly one. i tell the lady boy to leave and says i give cab money. the lb refuse to leave and we fight. yes, we fight with punches and kicks. it got real ugly. i manage to push the lb out of the door. than the lb threaten me that i will be in trouble. gosh. this really spoils all. my mood.

so i warn all bros be careful of this scam.

above was seen on another forum.

Hutsori
06-24-14, 07:00
I don't know if I was too careless, I don't know if something bad could have happened. Was it risky or not. I had nothing to steal from and all valuables were in the safe but I don't know if I should have trusted a stranger like that. Maybe not wise in the Philippines.

It is weird that she didn't want to meet in the lobby first. Anyway, when the front desk called you could have told them that you're coming downstairs to meet her. This would have given you a chance to look her over a bit before going to your room.

I think it's the luck of the draw, but of course you can mitigate risk. I have about 2 years of dating-site strangers coming to my condo regularly and never have had any hassle; they are over 98 per cent of my visitors. The three occasions where cash was stolen from my wallet it was by FL bar pickups who I allowed to stay the night. After three times I finally learnt my lesson and stash my valuables. Another girl, who I had become friendly with at a bar not known for FLs, came over one night and in the morning cautioned me that she could have stolen my smart phones if she wanted - I left them charging in the living room.

Anyway, if you're not going to bring her to your place where will you go? A hot-sheet hotel? At least at your place the front desk has her ID, you have an in-room safe, and you have a good idea where to stash things elsewhere in the room. That isn't the case at the Sogo, is it?

Tyrion82
06-24-14, 11:38
First off, this post is my unoffical report of manila. Official report will be later.

Harrison plaza is not as great as previously advertised, YMMV. I had a hard time at first spotting girls and mamasans. But then as I got the scope of the jungle, I started to see who's who. IMHO, most were not as pretty as advertised and the mamasans I met were a old crusty dude and a ladyboy. The decent girl was pimped by the ladyboy mamsan. She was 18 supposedly, could not verify at time as it was in the midst of negotiations. Negotiated for 1500st, but could not agree on time of payment. They wanted my hotel location and payment up front or a deposit. I told them payment after transaction. They wouldn't agree so I walked away. Don't let these guys take you and be prepared to walk away from a fine young spinner.

Maybe it was a slow day and the selection was poor and their mgmt on duty did not know how to do business. I will attempt to give this place another chance because others had positive experiences. Anyone else have a positive experience at Harrison plaza?

Anyone know of a decent casa in ermita or similar area? Are these places real and is it a single fee for all night? I'm will provide in depth detail of my trip in my offical report similar to spidys style.

Off area / forum: are there any casas in AC?

Thank you

X Man
06-24-14, 14:11
Oh, is that what it means? Thanks Pip, been drinking with brits and ozzies and all sorts of South African guys for twenty years and I never figured it out. Let me reconfirm: pissed = angry / pissed = drunk.

What do we call someone drunk and angry. You know the pissed and pissed type? X.


I thought the Aussie / Brit term "pissed" meant they had too many beers and were drunk. But that being the case it would also explain his sudden need to run off to the CR, LOL.

Disclaimer: Sorry for any spelling mistakes MF1, English is not my native language and the auto correct function here doesn't seem to always work right.

Red Kilt
06-24-14, 14:17
Oh, is that what it means? Thanks Pip, been drinking with brits and ozzies and all sorts of South African guys for twenty years and I never figured it out. Let me reconfirm: pissed = angry / pissed = drunk.

What do we call someone drunk and angry. You know the pissed and pissed type? X.See post 12777 XMan.

RTFF (smile).

Wicked Roger
06-24-14, 15:54
Oh, is that what it means? Thanks Pip, been drinking with brits and ozzies and all sorts of South African guys for twenty years and I never figured it out. Let me reconfirm: pissed = angry / pissed = drunk.

What do we call someone drunk and angry. You know the pissed and pissed type? X.Means he is very pissed LOL And you should not be cracking jokes etc in his company. Avoid like the plague (or a avoid like you would a LB X) LOL.

Pip Jaeger
06-24-14, 18:42
Let me reconfirm: pissed = angry / pissed = drunk.

What do we call someone drunk and angry. You know the pissed and pissed type? X.This should clarify: Angry = Pissed off; Very Drunk = Pissed on (himself, the wall, you, etc). LOL.

Radical Guy
06-24-14, 19:13
Oh my Gosh. A Lady Boy. A real ugly one.So, if the lady boy was not ugly, then things would have been okay? LOL.

Econo Tech
06-25-14, 08:02
So, if the lady boy was not ugly, then things would have been okay? LOL.Errrr. Mmmm.

Did you read the last line?

I said I saw that on another forum. Ouch.

Twinky
06-25-14, 20:56
I am going to visit Manila first time next week end. Suppose to stay for a week. Hotel not yet confirm. Any guys can you please help me track good girl friendly hotel and some pretty good contact of girls.

Appreciate you help.

This is time for global mongering.

Twinky.

Member #4387
06-25-14, 21:27
I am going to visit Manila first time next week end. Suppose to stay for a week. Hotel not yet confirm. Any guys can you please help me track good girl friendly hotel and some pretty good contact of girls.

Appreciate you help.

This is time for global mongering.

Twinky.You are a senior member and should be aware of the designated hotel thread. There are loads of hotels all around Manila and as far as I know very very very few are NOT girlfriendly. Just make sure to book room for 2 personas.

As you don't give out any info on where in Manila you are going to direct your attention at, pricerange (you have from dormitories to intl worldclass hotels) etc it is hopeless to be at any help even if i would/could. Read mentioned thread. Many people have used hours to provide useful info all you have to do is read it. Contacts I am afraid you have to get yourself. But very very easy to hook up with girls in Manila.

Chocha Monger
06-26-14, 01:32
Don't let them in! Mongers using social media to lure unsuspecting nubile Filipinas into their lairs, be it hotel room or condo, may be in for a wicked surprise. You would not let a stranger come into your hotel room in San Francisco or New York City without first checking them out at a safe location. So, why would you let your dick trick you into letting some random Flip you chatted over the internet waltz into your residence where you are alone and vulnerable without even vetting them in the lobby? Sex addiction can seriously impair some mongers' judgment making them disregard personal safety.

Recently, a monger using one of the dating sites popular with sex tourists made the grave error of allowing a chat mate to come up to his room without making sure things were on the level. The monger had been drinking heavily and he did not realize that the sweet young thing had a surprise for him in "her" panties until "she" rolled him over onto his stomach after a BBBJ and mounted his rear. When he felt the penetration and it dawned on him that he was not being given a digital prostate massage because he was being firmly grasped by both shoulders, he tried to dislodge his partner but due to the fact that he was elderly, inebriated, in poor physical condition and pinned down his efforts proved futile. His date had his way with him and, as if that was not enough, departed with all the cash from his wallet.

Later, the distraught monger recounted the harrowing ordeal. When asked why he did not report the incident to security and make a police report he just gave a wry look and asked, "What good would that do? Filipino newspapers love to publish the names of foreigners. " The LB was probably counting on this reaction to get away with the crime in spite of all the CCTV cameras and security in the building. The victim was at least convinced to go to the hospital to seek HIV retroviral treatment but he will have to do HIV tests for the next year before he is in the clear along with psychiatric treatment. Needless to say this all may have been avoided if he wasn't too lazy to go down to the lobby to check out his visitor and laid off the liquor before the date. Manila is not Disneyland. Horny sex tourists fishing for sex online can easily find that the supposedly harmless mackerel hauled into their boat is actually a great white shark with a mean appetite.

Lazy mongers who can't be bothered to take basic security precautions should stick to the bars at P. Burgos and EDSA where the screening is done for them. The 6-8 K PHP premium could well be insurance against an unforgettable night of regret.

Screaming Beaver
06-27-14, 00:20
Recently, a monger using one of the dating sites popular with sex tourists made the grave error of allowing a chat mate to come up to his room without making sure things were on the level. The monger had been drinking heavily and he did not realize that the sweet young thing had a surprise for him in "her" panties until "she" rolled him over onto his stomach after a BBBJ and mounted his rear. When he felt the penetration and it dawned on him that he was not being given a digital prostate massage because he was being firmly grasped by both shoulders, he tried to dislodge his partner but due to the fact that he was elderly, inebriated, in poor physical condition and pinned down his efforts proved futile. His date had his way with him and, as if that was not enough, departed with all the cash from his wallet.Both informative and hilarious report. I agree it's always a good idea to meet the girl downstairs instead of giving her your room number. There may be a number of reasons you want to send her home, not the least of which is packing a penis.

There does however seem to be a market for these LB's. Anyone who ever sits by the rail of Phillies Sports Bar on Fields Ave in AC can see a cadre of these fruitcakes with nuts. The johns are usually Arabs and Frenchmen but you do sometimes see the otherwise normal guy waltzing up to one of these freaks and then off to the room they go to take a walk on the wild side. Disgusting.

Socker
06-27-14, 07:23
Both informative and hilarious report. I agree it's always a good idea to meet the girl downstairs instead of giving her your room number. There may be a number of reasons you want to send her home, not the least of which is packing a penis.

There does however seem to be a market for these LB's. Anyone who ever sits by the rail of Phillies Sports Bar on Fields Ave in AC can see a cadre of these fruitcakes with nuts. The johns are usually Arabs and Frenchmen but you do sometimes see the otherwise normal guy waltzing up to one of these freaks and then off to the room they go to take a walk on the wild side. Disgusting.

There are no Johns in the PI (only mongers) and mongers who fuck LBs want something different, that's all. If they want to get fucked in the ass so what, maybe it feels good. I don't have any money on it. Who gives a fuck?

Live and let live brah!

Just keep the LBs off Fields so I don't have to see those disgusting fucks. LOL.

Dg8787
06-27-14, 10:02
Don't let them in! Mongers using social media to lure unsuspecting nubile Filipinas into their lairs, be it hotel room or condo, may be in for a wicked surprise. You would not let a stranger come into your hotel room in San Francisco or New York City without first checking them out at a safe location. So, why would you let your dick trick you into letting some random Flip you chatted over the internet waltz into your residence where you are alone and vulnerable without even vetting them in the lobby? Sex addiction can seriously impair some mongers' judgment making them disregard personal safety.

Recently, a monger using one of the dating sites popular with sex tourists made the grave error of allowing a chat mate to come up to his room without making sure things were on the level. The monger had been drinking heavily and he did not realize that the sweet young thing had a surprise for him in "her" panties until "she" rolled him over onto his stomach after a BBBJ and mounted his rear. When he felt the penetration and it dawned on him that he was not being given a digital prostate massage because he was being firmly grasped by both shoulders, he tried to dislodge his partner but due to the fact that he was elderly, inebriated, in poor physical condition and pinned down his efforts proved futile. His date had his way with him and, as if that was not enough, departed with all the cash from his wallet.

Later, the distraught monger recounted the harrowing ordeal. When asked why he did not report the incident to security and make a police report he just gave a wry look and asked, "What good would that do? Filipino newspapers love to publish the names of foreigners. " The LB was probably counting on this reaction to get away with the crime in spite of all the CCTV cameras and security in the building. The victim was at least convinced to go to the hospital to seek HIV retroviral treatment but he will have to do HIV tests for the next year before he is in the clear along with psychiatric treatment. Needless to say this all may have been avoided if he wasn't too lazy to go down to the lobby to check out his visitor and laid off the liquor before the date. Manila is not Disneyland. Horny sex tourists fishing for sex online can easily find that the supposedly harmless mackerel hauled into their boat is actually a great white shark with a mean appetite.

Lazy mongers who can't be bothered to take basic security precautions should stick to the bars at P. Burgos and EDSA where the screening is done for them. The 6-8 K PHP premium could well be insurance against an unforgettable night of regret.Cheap ass got his bargain basement freebie! He didn't realize it was his that was free and then sum.

Robbaf
06-28-14, 03:42
There are no Johns in the PI (only mongers) and mongers who fuck LBs want something different, that's all. If they want to get fucked in the ass so what, maybe it feels good. I don't have any money on it. Who gives a fuck?

Live and let live brah!

Just keep the LBs off Fields so I don't have to see those disgusting fucks. LOL.Sorry Socker, I give a shit. So how do you like fucking a girl, who was just fucked by a guy, who fucked a LB bareback yesterday?

If a monger is gay and only fucks LB's, then to each their own, but crossing back and forth and not using protection puts a lot of people at risk.

Socker
06-28-14, 04:45
Sorry Socker, I give a shit. So how do you like fucking a girl, who was just fucked by a guy, who fucked a LB bareback yesterday?

If a monger is gay and only fucks LB's, then to each their own, but crossing back and forth and not using protection puts a lot of people at risk.I said nothing about bareback sex. I said nothing about switching from straight to gay sex.

I just said there are no Johns in the PI and if guys want to chase LBs I don't give a shit.

That's all bro. I was being a little bit of a smart ass in my delivery. Well I guess that's about it.

Have a nice day.

Coolica
07-01-14, 08:47
So just a quick question. I've only been to P. Burgos area in Makati, and I've only explored that one strip (the one where it starts with Moulin Rouge and ends with the Ringside Bar across the street).

I've heard about the other places such as Ermita, Angels City, EDSA. How does P. Burgos compare to those other places? I'd like to know in terms of:

Prices.

Girls.

Types of places there.

Activities in the clubs.

For reference, my experiences from P. Burgos gogo bars are fairly interesting. I've visited about 4 places there:

Bottoms: Nice, fun, good looking girls for the most part, but they can get catty and give dagger eyes if you go back and don't pick them again.

Tickles: Also nice, smaller, girls seem wilder, but also pushier for tips and such.

Moulin Rouge: Biggest of the places I've been, but the girls aren't good at all. Got a drink, finished it and left.

Dimples: Just horrible. It looks seedy, run down, and girls are terrible. Got a drink that I couldn't even finish because the place looked so bad.

Price wise the places all kinda seemed the same. If you want to actually have fun with a girl for a good couple of hours it will cost about 3.5 k. I've gone wild in Bottoms before and spent around 21 k, but to be honest not much difference when you are trying to conserve money vs just deciding to blow it, except that you are more drunk.

Card Boy
07-02-14, 06:59
Fellow Mongers,

After my Jakarta and Hong Kong (Sunday morning / afternoon) experiences business brought me back to Manila. I have been many times to MBC and always stayed in the Pan Pacific nearby. Girls in MBC are cheap and of various natures however I rarely found a stunner there, speaking honestly only one: Her name was April.

Sometimes we picked-up girls in the MBC but usually my buddy and myself prefer to go to the disco Zzyzx, a 3 minutes ride away from the MBC. Right after we were in we were always asking for bottle service. Which gave us usually a good table spot and an initial attention of some girls. Inviting girls for drinks brings you the rest of the success -.

Try your luck and keep me posted!

Wicked Roger
07-02-14, 09:42
So just a quick question. I've only been to P. Burgos area in Makati, and I've only explored that one strip (the one where it starts with Moulin Rouge and ends with the Ringside Bar across the street).

I've heard about the other places such as Ermita, Angels City, EDSA. How does P. Burgos compare to those other places? I'd like to know in terms of:

Prices.

Girls.

Types of places there.

Activities in the clubs..Coolica,

Thre is plenty of information on the board if you RTFF and typed in "EDSA", try it as the search function (RTFF) does work well.

Or why not go there find out and then FR you views and comparison FRs answering the questions you pose? - which are not quick to answer BTW as there is plenty to say about what you asked about. Look at the board, this is a great information database, far better than many of the other countries.

Steve99
07-11-14, 04:45
Hi folks,

I just got here yesterday. So far so-so, staying at MJJ suites which is an ok high rise basic studio apartment type place for around $50 per night, good pool, gym and gf etc. Went to MBC last night and found a pretty demure girl circa 25 yo or so, very nice to talk to in the bar and agreed a proper price for short time (due to my being buggered from the early start that morning) Anyway all ok until the deed, suddenly became very perfucnctuary and 'have you got condom' ' I have shower and you put condom on' WTF anyway I slowed her down a bit but still ended up with little more than brothel sex, you know where your chugging away in 3 different positions for the money and you wonder what you are doing there. Anyway 8 days left so will get lucky next time. Will go to Subic or Angeles next (can explain away Subic better to my other Mrs steve99 if she goes looking up hotels etc).

Big question here, been trying to buy some cialis or substitue but no luck so far with the chemists. Tried Mercury drug in Robinsons, a male assistant served me and then shouted out big time to the pharmasists in the dispensary, "man want Cialis' and 2 of them shouted back 'No! Perscription only' obviously a show put on for my benefit. So be warned with that particular branch. Only need the stuff when I've had a drink, and I mean one itsy bitsy tiny beer then even can get it up but can't finish the deed, not even if I have gone a week without jiggery pokery, however 5 mg of Cialis works wonders all round, my doc back home wouldn't agree to perscription. So to get to the point Where do I buy the stuff here sans perscription?, even the indian copies work well, I know a couple of places in Bangkok where they officialy have stricter laws re what they can sell any clues folks?

Hutsori
07-11-14, 16:50
Big question here, been trying to buy some cialis or substitue but no luck so far with the chemists. Click Advanced search link, type "Viagra", select "Philippines", click Search, cross fingers and hocus pocus, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1001-General-Info&p=1542803&highlight=viagra#post1542803.

Redman69
07-11-14, 22:06
Just go to any off the wall clinic, tell them you want to see doctor for Cialis. Will cost 400 to 600 peso. Ask the desk first to keep them honest. Cough and say you have cold and want a Z-pack also. Now just so you know the pharmacist gives you the prescription back. Nothing saying you can not get it filled 20 times. That is how I do it rather than buy street drugs. And get the Z pak for airplane rides in the future. Get that script filled a couple time also. Good luck.

FreebieFan
07-12-14, 03:04
Big question here, been trying to buy some cialis or substitue but no luck so far with the chemists. Tried Mercury drug in Robinsons, a male assistant served me and then shouted out big time to the pharmasists in the dispensary, "man want Cialis' and 2 of them shouted back 'No! Perscription only' obviously a show put on for my benefit. So be warned with that particular branch. Only need the stuff when I've had a drink, and I mean one itsy bitsy tiny beer then even can get it up but can't finish the deed, not even if I have gone a week without jiggery pokery, however 5 mg of Cialis works wonders all round, my doc back home wouldn't agree to perscription. So to get to the point Where do I buy the stuff here sans perscription?, even the indian copies work well, I know a couple of places in Bangkok where they officialy have stricter laws re what they can sell any clues folks?Steve, you can buy Robust (theres two versions, one supposedly a stronger version) which works just as well as cialis. This is freely available in every Mercury, no scrip needed.

WestCoast1
07-12-14, 03:08
Hi folks,

SNIP

Big question here, been trying to buy some cialis or substitue but no luck so far with the chemists. Tried Mercury drug in Robinsons, a male assistant served me and then shouted out big time to the pharmasists in the dispensary, "man want Cialis' and 2 of them shouted back 'No! Perscription only' obviously a show put on for my benefit. So be warned with that particular branch. Only need the stuff when I've had a drink, and I mean one itsy bitsy tiny beer then even can get it up but can't finish the deed, not even if I have gone a week without jiggery pokery, however 5 mg of Cialis works wonders all round, my doc back home wouldn't agree to perscription. So to get to the point Where do I buy the stuff here sans perscription?, even the indian copies work well, I know a couple of places in Bangkok where they officialy have stricter laws re what they can sell any clues folks?Tried sending you a PM regarding location. Pay up a membership? You've been posting (not often) since 2009. If you can afford to travel and play, you can afford a membership here to ask questions.

Time to find a new doc who will give you a script. Also, you can buy the stuff online and have it delivered to your home prior to your trip.

Soapy Smith
07-12-14, 08:26
hi folks,

i just got here yesterday. so far so-so, staying at mjj suites which is an ok high rise basic studio apartment type place for around $50 per night, good pool, gym and gf etc.

big question here, been trying to buy some cialis or substitue but no luck so far with the chemists. i endorse wc's recommendation: stock up with generics before you travel. i recently got 20 cialis (20 mg) and 4 "bonus" viagra (50 mg) for about $2 (us) apiece, including shipping. price per pill is cheaper with larger numbers. they arrive in a non-descript package with a generic sender's address. i had them mailed to work to keep them out of view of the ball and chain. the indian generic levitra and cialis that i have bought in the past seems to work well, and they are so much cheaper than the name brand. the generic viagra that h describes as available in manila comes out to 140 pesos each, or about $3. 25. but it's not a bad price considering you get immediate delivery. if you are anywhere near robinson's place mall, try the star pharmacy in the front of robinson's supermarket. in my experience they ask fewer questions about prescriptions than at mercury. i recall that they have various other locations too. generic pharmacy, which h describes, really is widely available.

how about giving us a hotel review in the manila hotel thread? are you sure it's not jmm rather than mjj? anyway, details are helpful beyond what you already described. you might be able to win back some peer approval that you lost when wc discovered you're not a paying member.

Fred Gold
07-12-14, 14:05
For those of use a little older than a 'spring chickn', I have had experience with testosterone and find it helpful in many ways. Just a suggestion.

Red Kilt
07-12-14, 14:12
For those of use a little older than a 'spring chickn', I have had experience with testosterone and find it helpful in many ways. Just a suggestion.Just make sure you get a supervised blood test and ask your doctor for the specific dose.

Self medicating with testosterone can seriously f*k up your prostate system.

It's not like taking a V or C pill every so often.

Remember that most guys over 60 have got some form of prostate problem, even if it is in very early stages, and rarely does it actually kill them. Loading up on T is a quick way to tip the system out of balance.

Fred Gold
07-12-14, 14:37
You are 100% correct and I should have added that caution. It is not to be taken lightly. I had gotten an Rx for Testim, a small tube with a small, measured dosage. In the USA it is considered a controlled drug and the doc can not 'call in' the Rx, but rather it must be issued in a hard copy. Each script can be written / filled for a maximum of 3 months. If you get a 3 month script and only fill 1 month. Your SOL. The 2 unfilled months are lost and you must get a new one.

In terms of prostate cancer, I highly recommend getting a yearly exam. If caught early enough, it is highly treatable and curable. Early being the operative word!! I get a colonoscopy every three years and while poking around I always ask for my yearly exam then. It's less of a nuisance.


Just make sure you get a supervised blood test and ask your doctor for the specific dose.

Self medicating with testosterone can seriously f*k up your prostate system.

It's not like taking a V or C pill every so often.

Remember that most guys over 60 have got some form of prostate problem, even if it is in very early stages, and rarely does it actually kill them. Loading up on T is a quick way to tip the system out of balance.

Amavida
07-12-14, 15:33
reluctantly manila for two days prior to flying down to dipolog on business. my hotel is right across the road from the infamous edsa complex. never bothered with it but curiosity finally got the best of me.

looks seedy on the outside especially in the day time. lots of neon advertising different named bars. i walk in through the single entrance. gaggles of koreans looking intense (do these dudes ever smile or relax? they look very tourists doing golf swings & trying not to make eye contact with others.

i'm not given any choice, very politely but firmly guided down to the left hand end to something called samba. obviously the rk's don't want us whiteys touching their primo stock.

i enter, music at reasonable volume, 20 odd girls in skimpy bikinis. all range from nice to very nice indeed facially. all have bikini bodies. i'd shag any of them.

i give big smile & wave to the ladies, grab a sml & get comfy.

the place is not busy, a hand full of dour old caucasians sitting on a drink alone rep001tered around. why do these guys bother? they don't engage the girls or appear to enjoy themselves at all?

my primary survey complete i do my secondary survey looking for the girl who picks me. two cuties are majorly interested, the smaller of the two simply cannot be ignored. she practically leaps off the stage, i already know this is going to be a good night.

after some chit chat & bonding she's asking me if i'd like to take her out. hell yes. we get up & have a little fun dancing in the bar to liven things up. an rk bar manager is screaming something at the dancers. the girl tells me he's ordering them to dance & smile. they completely ignore him as only pinay's can.

a cute massage girl dressed in smock i slipped p500 & promised to come back for her another time.

so now the bill shock. bar manager demands p1950 bar fine + p4000 for the girl all payable in advance in the bar.

i know some of you guy's are gagging & reaching for the keyboard.

in the interests if field research i take one for the team & pay up.

we grab a taxi to drop off her bag at my hotel & then head for exclusiv an upmarket disco / night club. on the way she asks when i'm back in town & volunteers to miss a shift to give me a freeby next week. shit we only in the cab 5 minutes!

we arrive at exclusiv early, no point being a shy little cheap charlie, i pay for a good table & we get the rolls royce treatment from the staff. (at the end of the evening manager tells me i'm welcome back any time, next time table is free).

so my bf gives me full on gfe all evening, we dance drink & have a fantastic time.

we head home & after sex she spoons me cupping one breast with my hand and interlacing the fingers of my other hand with hers.

sex again in the morning, more cuddling & spooning until 10.30 am when i remind her shell be due to go back to work soon. both our phones have been blowing up with txts & miss calks.

she makes point of getting my digits & reminding me next wednesday is a freeby despite my offering to give her some 'help' even so.

yes its commercial sex, yes its not cheap by local standards but i thoroughly enjoyed my self & excited to meet her again for a full day & night of gfe gratis next time.

cheers.

av.

FLT09
07-12-14, 18:34
Yes its commercial sex, yes its not cheap by local standards but I thoroughly enjoyed my self & excited to meet her again for a full day & night of GFE gratis next time.

Cheers.

AV.Nice FR. Some of the best GFE I have had in PI has been with girls from EDSA. I keep in touch with 2 of them, good 3 some experience, and meet up with them when I go back to Manila. I haven't heard of paying the tip upfront. Did you give it to the girl or the manager? I hope the girl got all of that tip.

Soapy Smith
07-12-14, 18:37
We head home & after sex she spoons me cupping one breast with my hand and interlacing the fingers of my other hand with hers.

Sex again in the morning, more cuddling & spooning until 10.30 am when I remind her shell be due to go back to work soon. Both our phones have been blowing up with txts & miss calks.

She makes point of getting my digits & reminding me next Wednesday is a freeby despite my offering to give her some 'help' even so.

Yes its commercial sex, yes its not cheap by local standards but I thoroughly enjoyed my self & excited to meet her again for a full day & night of GFE gratis next time.

Cheers.

AV.Yes, her GFE is probably part of a commercial offering to keep you coming back. But you gotta love it just the same. And who knows, maybe the girl also wants to feel a little intimacy from what is otherwise just a commercial transaction. In years past I had several different girls I had taken out of LAC for LT, who, after the evening deed, would wrap their lower legs around mine before falling asleep.

P4Ps in the U.S., and presumably also Oz, just don't bother with this kind of GFE, and if they do an overnighter, the cost is essentially a multiplier of their base one hour price. GFE really is different in the Phils--for a variety of reasons.

A few years ago I had a woman I took out of LAC several times. She was a single mother living somewhere in Cavite, and she was only up for ST because she needed to get a late bus back to Cavite before midnight to relieve a babysitter. She came in a couple times a week to make enough for her and the child to live on. The father of the child had long since deserted her, and other Pinoys generally avoided her because of her child. She said she wasn't having any sex apart from customers at LAC. She told me that, despite the risks, she did sometimes enjoy the sex with customers, enough so that she usually began to feel horny on the bus ride into the city.

Mr Hawaii
07-13-14, 00:57
Reluctantly Manila for two days prior to flying down to Dipolog on business. My hotel is right across the road from the infamous EDSA complex. Never bothered with it but curiosity finally got the best of me.

Looks seedy on the outside especially in the day time. Lots of neon advertising different named bars. I walk in through the single entrance. Gaggles of Koreans looking intense (do these dudes ever smile or relax? They look very tourists doing golf swings & trying not to make eye contact with others.

I'm not given any choice, very politely but firmly guided down to the left hand end to something called Samba. Obviously the RK's don't want us whiteys touching their primo stock.

I enter, music at reasonable volume, 20 odd girls in skimpy bikinis. All range from nice to very nice indeed facially. All have bikini bodies. I'd shag any of them.
After some chit chat & bonding she's asking me if I'd like to take her out. Hell yes. We get up & have a little fun dancing in the bar to liven things up. An RK bar manager is screaming something at the dancers. The girl tells me he's ordering them to dance & smile. They completely ignore him as only Pinay's can.
So now the bill shock. Bar manager demands P1950 bar fine + P4000 for the girl all payable in advance in the bar.I know some of you guy's are gagging & reaching for the keyboard.

In the interests if field research I take one for the team & pay up.

We grab a taxi to drop off her bag at my hotel & then head for Exclusiv an upmarket disco / night club. On the way she asks when I'm back in town & volunteers to miss a shift to give me a freeby next week. Shit we only in the cab 5 minutes!

Cheers.

AV.Was just at EDSA in June, and that is true, mamasans will quote you the price for the girl also. ST-3000 LT-4000. The barfine I have never been able to negotiate, but I always tell the mamasan that what I pay the girl is between her and me. They have always said, "OK". Most girls are ok with 3000 for all night. Some say 2,500. I did take a girl from Samba for 2 nights (went back and barfined again the second night, cause I did not know how she would be on the first night) and got huge discount the second night.

Incidentally, will be back in Manila (EDSA) in November. Anyone want me to check on their EDSA girlfriends?

Amavida
07-13-14, 01:37
Nice FR. Some of the best GFE I have had in PI has been with girls from EDSA. I keep in touch with 2 of them, good 3 some experience, and meet up with them when I go back to Manila. I haven't heard of paying the tip upfront. Did you give it to the girl or the manager? I hope the girl got all of that tip.It was put to me that this had to be paid on the spot in the bar. Maybe they lose too many girls due to cheap Charlie's & creeps underpaying at the conclusion of the EWR?

I'm not one for haggling the price of sex. I feel it puts the girl in a, shall we say, less generous frame of mind. For me its a buy / don't buy.

I queried the girl both in bar & again next morning as to whether she would be getting all the P4000. She confirmed that was the case.

She kept going on apologeticalky about expensive the EWR was. She asked when I was back in town & declared that Wednesday was not her day off but happy to throw a shift to give us all day & night. Very clearly stated this gratis & refused to discuss compensation. "No need".

This is not due to my rugged good looks or sexual prowess. Its a Pinoy sense of fairness & she enjoys our outings. Simple. I'm not going to abuse her generosity.

BTW I slipped her a blue note tip at the end of the EWR. Yes I know its over the odds but people practice tipping here & if you understand it they look at you in a different light. Being around someone who tips properly generously is a big prestige thing for them.

Next weeks freeby significantly cuts my outlay / investment in this girl. Mongering is a rich mans sport none the less.

Cheers.

AV.

Amavida
07-13-14, 01:44
I sometimes forget that others may not know about these places. I arrived early at Exclusiv with my Samba girl. Many of the paid tables were populated with pouting texting freelance eye candy. Prices start at P4000 as far as I know. Never bothered with them but girlfriends tell me all I need for Intel.

Cheers.

AV.

FLT09
07-13-14, 05:23
My EDSA experiences have been good. The first girl I BF in Phil was from EDSA, the girl I referred to last time. The next trip I went to EDSA and she ran up to me right away. I ended up with her and her friend without paying BF as they met me in my hotel when their shift was over. Waiting is not a problem for me as I usually stay out late barhopping. I just head back to Burgos and have fun with the girls in the bar until I am ready to head back to the hotel.

Each time I have been to EDSA I have paid a 2 k tip, always negotiated down. I might get an edge being a younger guy, of maybe I just pick the right girls. I have only once passed on a girl that refused to move off her 5 k asking price. She was young and a complete stunner though. The little spinner type that I prefer, still regret not ponying up.

FLT09
07-13-14, 05:25
I sometimes forget that others may not know about these places. I arrived early at Exclusiv with my Samba girl. Many of the paid tables were populated with pouting texting freelance eye candy. Prices start at P4000 as far as I know. Never bothered with them but girlfriends tell me all I need for Intel.

Cheers.

AV.Was that P4000 consumable? I have been trying to get some idea of table prices at the clubs leading up to my next visit.

Amavida
07-13-14, 06:45
Was that P4000 consumable? I have been trying to get some idea of table prices at the clubs leading up to my next visit.Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.

I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?

Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.

http://manilaclubbing.com

AV.

Slippery
07-13-14, 06:54
I'm still waiting for CaliAmateur's November field reports on the Manila clubs. He was going to dazzle all of us on how its done on under 500 php.

FLT09
07-13-14, 08:55
I'm still waiting for CaliAmateur's November field reports on the Manila clubs. He was going to dazzle all of us on how its done on under 500 php.He is too busy berating people in the Seoul forum for partaking in any type of p4 p.


Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.

I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?

Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.

http://manilaclubbing.com

AV.Thanks for the info. I definitely plan on mixing it up a bit and hitting a club or two. I checked that site out before, didn't see much for table prices and what not. Maybe I didn't look hard enough.

FLT09
07-13-14, 09:03
Ok, I wasn't looking hard enough. Getting the information I need.

Member #4387
07-13-14, 10:17
I sometimes forget that others may not know about these places. I arrived early at Exclusiv with my Samba girl. Many of the paid tables were populated with pouting texting freelance eye candy. Prices start at P4000 as far as I know. Never bothered with them but girlfriends tell me all I need for Intel.

Cheers.

AV.Just add in a little info. I bang one bird quite regulary and she has her hunting grounds from the place in mention. She tells me the FL operation is a so so operation but sometimes the girls also like to get som money worth if possible. It is not a mandatory operation and all out from the normal mechanism. I hear her friends go for both 2 and 3 k LT if they like the guy. Just saying.

It is probably a tad unfair to the pinays but I donate 3 K for real LT play both in Bangkok and in Manila, hehe.

Amavida
07-13-14, 12:38
He is too busy berating people in the Seoul forum for partaking in any type of p4 p.

Thanks for the info. I definitely plan on mixing it up a bit and hitting a club or two. I checked that site out before, didn't see much for table prices and what not. Maybe I didn't look hard enough.If you want the FL'ers you'll need to get there early. They are obvious. Later in the evening the club scene people arrive en masse. At that point its impossible to tell who's who & hitting on chicks could find you lying in an alley bleeding.

AV.

FLT09
07-13-14, 13:40
If you want the FL'ers you'll need to get there early. They are obvious. Later in the evening the club scene people arrive en masse. At that point its impossible to tell who's who & hitting on chicks could find you lying in an alley bleeding.

AV.I was planning on hitting the club for a night out, bringing my own company, not scouting for FL. Thanks for the tip though, definitely something people should think about.

Member #4387
07-13-14, 17:20
If you want the FL'ers you'll need to get there early. They are obvious. Later in the evening the club scene people arrive en masse. At that point its impossible to tell who's who & hitting on chicks could find you lying in an alley bleeding.

AV.You can probably get beat up from one reason or another but spotting a FL in crowded space is easy due to their use of eyes. If they "fuck you" with their eyes you can be pretty sure it is a FL or you are tremendious handsome as in you score all over the world wherever you choose to go. If they eyeball you as there is no tomorrow you can take for granted it is a Fl. Most regular pinays avoid eyecontact.

Just as a tip if the place is crowded. On the other half ofcourse it is easier to spot a FL in a empty environment.

Hutsori
07-13-14, 19:22
Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.

I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?

Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.

http://manilaclubbing.com

AV.Exclusiv is very much my go-to club. It's not too high-end like Prive or Republic nor is it overrun with Koreans like Zzyzx - I should point out that these three places attract a lot of fine women. Exclusiv is mostly a Filipino crowd and that's the way I like it. The only assholes I encountered there were foreigners and on occasion a Filipino gay guy tried to be overly friendly with me. I always get a bottle of rum at approx p2000 plus mixers, and since they've stored it for me for the next time I visited I wasn't subject to any base consumable charge on the next occasion. I've had many nights there when I had a dancefloor-side table and just needed to buy a few mixers to finish off my bottle and my bill came to less than p500. I use the same waiter and I tip him generously. One night I did have a different waiter who, after bringing me my stored bottle, told me that there was a p2000 consumable charge. I objected and he relented. So keep in mind the drinking-while-white scam may happen. There are FLs there and, fair warning, this includes ladyboys - for a period of several weeks the hottest FL "girl" was a stunning LB and she was always picking up foreign blokes. When I go clubbing I like to bring a girl with me, and when I go to the CR have encountered girls giving me the hard FL eye and chatting me up. One night I came back to my table and found a t-bird lesbian was hitting on my girl. I don't go there til after 1 am and then just the weekends. I tried a couple of weeknights and it was typically dead. Filipino paydays changes this.

If you want to make a night of it in the immediate area first catch a live band at Bellagio Square (on weekends) or Cowboy Grill (any night) and then go to Exclusiv later.

TheIceKing
07-13-14, 21:11
My last visit to the Phills it seemed like I was hemoraging money for ladydrinks on girls who either were cherrygirls, it was "that time of month", they "dance only", or some other bs like they had foriegn bf and only barfined to go bar hoping but no sex.

They seemed shocked that I didn't know this before asking to buy them a drink. How are you supposed to know? I notice some have special sashes or they dressed different. Waitresses were little help as they would insist all the girls I asked about were available for sex.

Got me a little discouraged. I am considered attractive by local standards. Seemed like a Manila thing, the only problem I had in Angelos City was not being Korean. Seems the stunners at some bars will only leave with Korean customers. Did not have that problem at Crystal Palace or Tropix so mainly pulled from there.

Still, it happened now and again and I would prefer not to waste money on lady drinks I do not have to.

Also, on my return thru Manilla I hit up AKB48 KTV and the other KTVs around there. All girls at these clubs seemed to indicate no sex was possible with any of the girls. But I find that unlikely. The girls there were very fine mostly and maybe I was aproaching the wrong girls?

Mr Hawaii
07-13-14, 22:04
Ah sorry mate, I confused you. Tables at Exclusiv are only P1500 consumable. Spend up, behave nicely & throw some tips around, you'll be a VIP next time. Meaning table free & red carpet treatment. At least that's how its been for me.

I was referring to the free lancers infesting the place from early in the evening. Tons of them. I let you mongers in on a little secret diba?

Plenty of up market clubs in Manila full of eye candy for hire. Nice change of venue for guys tired of usual monger haunts.

http://manilaclubbing.com

AV.The manilaclubbing.com link is excellent. Not for those on a budget, that's for sure. But it always helps to be knowledgeable. Last trip I was so busy hunting for women I did not even notice that the Palladium was in my hotel (New World Hotel).

Member #4387
07-13-14, 22:40
The manilaclubbing.com link is excellent. Not for those on a budget, that's for sure. But it always helps to be knowledgeable. Last trip I was so busy hunting for women I did not even notice that the Palladium was in my hotel (New World Hotel).Fuck everything here in MNL is cheap, realy cheap. Words out there. Known hotels can be simulare to western standards, that's it.

FreebieFan
07-14-14, 02:54
Got me a little discouraged. I am considered attractive by local standards. With no disrespect to your obvious handsumness (sic), in the words of WR, as soon as we get off that plane we all become Brad Pitts younger brother.

Amavida
07-14-14, 02:56
My last visit to the Phills it seemed like I was hemoraging money for ladydrinks on girls who either were cherrygirls, it was "that time of month", they "dance only", or some other bs like they had foriegn bf and only barfined to go bar hoping but no sex.

They seemed shocked that I didn't know this before asking to buy them a drink. How are you supposed to know? I notice some have special sashes or they dressed different. Waitresses were little help as they would insist all the girls I asked about were available for sex.

Got me a little discouraged. I am considered attractive by local standards. Seemed like a Manila thing, the only problem I had in Angelos City was not being Korean. Seems the stunners at some bars will only leave with Korean customers. Did not have that problem at Crystal Palace or Tropix so mainly pulled from there.

Still, it happened now and again and I would prefer not to waste money on lady drinks I do not have to.

Also, on my return thru Manilla I hit up AKB48 KTV and the other KTVs around there. All girls at these clubs seemed to indicate no sex was possible with any of the girls. But I find that unlikely. The girls there were very fine mostly and maybe I was aproaching the wrong girls?I think you're sincere so I'll try to be helpful without being judgmental ok? Don't take this the wrong way ok?

Two things stand out about your post. Firstly you complain about the cost of lady drinks. Yes they are overpriced watered down (taste their drink compared to the one severed to you) rip off but in yiur home country currency the cist is nothing. Seriously, if you can't afford to throw a little money around in the bar then change venue to dating site girls.

Secondly, you talk about stunners. In this country the wealthy & well connected get all the top shelf stuff. If aren't rich & well connected then you can look on from the side lines. Don't waste your time. Occasionally you may get lucky but rare.

There are plenty of pretty girls who will rock your world.

If you go in p4 p venues be nice, throw a little money around & take the girl who picks you.

You're doing it wrong.

Cheers.

AV.

Hutsori
07-14-14, 05:01
I am considered attractive by local standards. What does that reallllly mean?

Your bulging wallet? Your engaging personality? Your brilliantly blue eyes? Your massive height? Your dashing good looks?

If you think it's the latter then verify whether the compliment is genuine or not; upload your photos to a hot-or-not website and view the scores a few days later. If you're scoring 7 or better you're good looking. If not... shift fire.

Since you by your own admission were "haemorrhaging" money on drinks where's the incentive for the girl to accept the barfine? With you she's already earning her keep, and perhaps even more, sitting right there in the bar. Drinking. And drinking. And drinking. That's easy work.

Wicked Roger
07-14-14, 06:46
What does that reallllly mean?

Your bulging wallet? Your engaging personality? Your brilliantly blue eyes? Your massive height? Your dashing good looks?I think that also describes me Hutsori LOL. As FF said, when we get off the plane we are Brad Pitt. But I am the original Brad Pitt in the Philippines please note LOL.

Seriously spending lots on lady drinks does mean the girl ahs no incentive and maybe like some other mongers from the past the person himself has too much to drink and the girls don't really want a drunk. Although it would be a possible way to earn very easy cash.

Member #4387
07-14-14, 10:47
Been reading with interest about the king of ice (Iceking guy). If you not able to score from a girlybar I am sure you are not concidered attractive in the eyes of the locals. We all get this "hey handsome" thrown around all the time, just not let it get into your head as in it is true.

Many of us mongerers inside here score almost before we deplane at NAIA's arrivinggate. Handsome or not. Behaviour is a very important factor in phils dealing with girls. Probably more important than looks. Just put up your best behaviour and not this bullshit of u beeing handsome viewed by the locals.. We all are viewed attractive and in a girliebar environment the real attractivness needed is the size of your wallet(or atleast it should be). Hope u are not cheap charlie as well.

Just saying something must be terrible wrong with you. I say this with next to no exp in the girlybar environment.

If you are terrible afraid of waisting money why go in the first place (and I mean that as in why book a ticket to the phils).

FLT09
07-14-14, 14:34
Your bulging wallet? Your engaging personality? Your brilliantly blue eyes? Your massive height? Your dashing good looks?If you didn't mention the blue eyes, I would of thought you were talking about me. In all seriousness, heed their advice Ice.

Radical Guy
07-16-14, 23:24
I posted a report in the photo gallery section about my recent experience with girls I picked up from Harrison Plaza. Here is the link:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1595516&viewfull=1#post1595516.

RG.

Econo Tech
07-17-14, 06:46
I posted a report in the photo gallery section about my recent experience with girls I picked up from Harrison Plaza. Here is the link:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1595516&viewfull=1#post1595516.

RG.Just a question.

How easy it is to grab a taxi from Harrison?

BTW, regarding Glenda Typhoon, that part of Greenbelt 5 was ripped off shows how good the construction standards in Philippines is.

Radical Guy
07-17-14, 17:56
Just a question.

How easy it is to grab a taxi from Harrison?

BTW, regarding Glenda Typhoon, that part of Greenbelt 5 was ripped off shows how good the construction standards in Philippines is.Very easy. The easiest place to get a taxi is the east exit (I think), the mall exit near SM department store. Just walk out and you can get a taxi in 30 seconds.

RG.

Streetlooker
07-17-14, 20:38
My last visit to the Phills it seemed like I was hemoraging money for ladydrinks on girls who either were cherrygirls, it was "that time of month", they "dance only", or some other bs like they had foriegn bf and only barfined to go bar hoping but no sex.

They seemed shocked that I didn't know this before asking to buy them a drink. How are you supposed to know? I notice some have special sashes or they dressed different. Waitresses were little help as they would insist all the girls I asked about were available for sex.

Got me a little discouraged. I am considered attractive by local standards. Seemed like a Manila thing, the only problem I had in Angelos City was not being Korean. Seems the stunners at some bars will only leave with Korean customers. Did not have that problem at Crystal Palace or Tropix so mainly pulled from there.

Still, it happened now and again and I would prefer not to waste money on lady drinks I do not have to.

Also, on my return thru Manilla I hit up AKB48 KTV and the other KTVs around there. All girls at these clubs seemed to indicate no sex was possible with any of the girls. But I find that unlikely. The girls there were very fine mostly and maybe I was aproaching the wrong girls?If you want to save money and not waste it on high priced drinks ect ect Then what you must do is have the ability to walk at the 1st sign of Bullshit coming out of a girls mouth. YOU MUST LOVE YOUR MONEY BETTER. You must love your money more then you love pussy. If you love pussy more then money it will cost you.

Econo Tech
07-18-14, 02:04
Very easy. The easiest place to get a taxi is the east exit (I think), the mall exit near SM department store. Just walk out and you can get a taxi in 30 seconds.

RG.Thanks, will venture out and check Harrisons on my next travel.

Member #4387
07-18-14, 04:07
Did another one of my 4 to 10 days (6 days) from 12 to 17.7. 14 trips. Usual routine realy as feasting from my datingsitefleet and also my fake fb account (well the accunt is real but no info about me and only girls attached to it)is all it takes these days with very litle preparation whatsoever. Fb account is blooming but it is a living hell keeping track. Girls seem up and running on the subject though so I got a good pussy to show me how to set security level contact by contact(as in they are not beeing able to follow eachother). I have not done fixings yet so we will see how it works out. Maby need to create a new one to quite things down.

From my bucket list I managed to x off a preggy one. I have done preggy ones before but this was one unattached with me in almost every way(only one previous dinner). A real nice girl. Today I understand her better as in she did not want to join my room for a steamy session while we first met(this rarly happens with my datingsite girls so she stood out from the crowd). It was some days later she admitted she was 6 months pregnant (she wore baggy dress so I blame my screening on our first encounter for not seeing this). Anyway she is a great looking girl and extremely hot by almost every standards but are beeing stood up by her run away pinoy ofcourse. She told me I WAS A PRETTY NICE GUY so she realy wanted to meet me again but she realy understood if I did not want to due to her pregnancie. I used this for what it was worth and shipped in a modes request how exiting it would be to me to have sex with a preggy girl. She responded in a way that most likely this would be ok. All good.

I did have to give it some thoughts though but while feet on phil soil and some fucking around my horniness arosed to high levels and as from a porn movie I suddenly felt the urge to play her pregginess.

Actually we did the typhoon Glenda fuck. She was supposed to leave for work the next morning but luckely her employer told her to stay home. Lucky me I could do her even more times. It is funny when something relatively new, outside the standard routine, shows up. The level of horniness and ability to go multiple rounds seems not to stop. 2 or 3(not popping everytime ofcourse)seems to be the usual deal these days(getting lazy and picky i guess and maby even older damn it). Anyway She lived up to the saying preggy ones are extremely horny. Will take some time to forget this still good looking spinner. I agreed to meet up with her after delivery at some point and I might keep that promise (if she has no stretchmark that is)so maby not forget her just yet.

The only interruption I did get was at 11 am 16.7 girl appointment showing up at the Ascott reception. This was when Glenda was still quite strong over the Ascott area (atleast debree was filling up the pool). I did forget this appointment (blured from alcohol state this has happened before and will happen again) but I could hardly think anyone would go out in such weather. But I was wrong. This is the obvious bad part dealing with girls living in Makati or close boarders and one thing to remember for the next typhoon if I am present. Quite a hick up at the reception but I manage to give her my best krap routine as in I was extremely tired and feeling sick. I think she knew what was going on but she was eventually up for a meet later in the afternoon when I gave her a text. They forgive easily lucky me.

As for the bad part from girl I did encounter on this trip. I will admit she admitted she was a tad more proffesional than girls I usual encounter but as long as I don't meet them out of a barenvironment is not like I am going to stand one down when she is a member of my datingsite fleet. She could tell me about beeing a member in almost every forum directed to our hobby (not only this). She admitted she was a member in most of them to follow what was coocking and if pics of her were displayed. Punters had informed her. Must be these "save a ho" punters. Thinking they are better than the rest and so they do it for good karma, haha. Well, so if you read this, no pics will be displayed from your beautiful spinning body. It was a great FIFA world cup party though, hehe. It seems more and more girls know guys have a place where we share intel and brag. That is a damn shame realy.

I have many pics from this and previous trips but as I am no sitting in Doha airport this is not time or place to do so. They need some fixing anyway. I admit i would realy enjoyed if this forum did have some high level of security only real contributors as in field trips, posting intel etc. Probably something for the admins but that anyone just browsing without even membership can look at pics is realy to my liking as in whats written previous in this report..

CaliPro
07-19-14, 14:39
Anyone know if the club Icon is still open in Makati? If so how is it doing?

CaliPro
07-20-14, 07:41
I'm still waiting for CaliAmateur's November field reports on the Manila clubs. He was going to dazzle all of us on how its done on under 500 php.What would you like to know exactly?

Exklusiv is a nice medium range club. Had great results there.

Cowboy Grill is a good time. Bring a date though.

MBC is good for a beer or two shitting the breeze before heading else where.

Zzxyz is fun but the girls seem alittle too hardcore about their money and freelancing.

Quezon City is the best place to party in my opinion. Hardly no foreigners and tons of cute girls. My favorite club there is Excess.

CaliPro
07-20-14, 23:25
Anyone that is interested in a summer 2014 Manila nightlife guide or trip report PM me.

Wicked Roger
07-20-14, 23:35
What would you like to know exactly?

Exklusiv is a nice medium range club. Had great results there.

Cowboy Grill is a good time. Bring a date though.

MBC is good for a beer or two shitting the breeze before heading else where.

Zzxyz is fun but the girls seem alittle too hardcore about their money and freelancing.

Quezon City is the best place to party in my opinion. Hardly no foreigners and tons of cute girls. My favorite club there is Excess.None of that information is new and can be easily found on the web, blogs or even ISG as much of this was in FRs recently. Less than 500 pesos is what Sippery was referring to and we are still waiting.

Also if you know the club scene so well (as referenced by your FR on 2014 Manila nightlife guide then why ask about Icon as surely you should know this as you have a 2014 nightlife guide (and the answer can easily be found in abut 10 second or less).

Slippery
07-21-14, 00:40
Anyone that is interested in a summer 2014 Manila nightlife guide or trip report PM me.How generic. Don't become a travel writer and give up your day job. Do we have to pay for the PM and trip report? Why can't you just put it out on the board to share with everybody?

Wicked Roger
07-21-14, 00:47
Anyone know if the club Icon is still open in Makati? If so how is it doing?Perhaps a call to the InterCon Makati would help answer the questions so can you do that and let everyone know? But you have the 2014 Manila nightlife guide, not to be confused with a recent FR on Manila clubs (a web link that a member posted).

Let us know the answer please as be interested as some of us go to Makati a lot. The link to the hotel is below.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/InterContinental+Manila / at 14.5505959,121.0288513,18 z / data=!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0:0 xd32 a9 dcc3 ac874 ca.[/URL]

The telephone number is there but this maybe a tad expensive from Korea where you live?

I do know the answer, those that really want to know can PM me but am sure most of know already so am not expecting a rush of PMs on this.

Odd also that a member blocks another from responding to his posts but there are ways CaliPro even if you never read them or see them LOL.

Wicked Roger
07-21-14, 00:56
How generic. Don't become a travel writer and give up your day job. Do we have to pay for the PM and trip report? Why can't you just put it out on the board to share with everybody?And of course Amavida did post this link to clubs. See the prices, but hard to enter when you only can spend 500 pesos a day. The tables at Rebubliq are expensive even during weekdays. Drinks I know are very pricey at these clubs as I have visited them with friends.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1597214&viewfull=1#post1597214.

So am not sure how an aspiring travel writer can succeed without trying all the clubs unless he asks lots of question and culls it all together and says this is an 'original' work.

Be careful Slippery as Cali may place you on the Ignore List as well as you have been too cheeky in a FR reply to him and have not recognized his wit and satire.

Hutsori
07-21-14, 03:02
Anyone know if the club Icon is still open in Makati? If so how is it doing?There's some fella with a "summer 2014 Manila nightlife guide" who's offered it here to forum members. As a guide writer he's the expert, I surmise. You ought to PM him.

CaliPro
07-21-14, 03:13
There's some fella with a "summer 2014 Manila nightlife guide" who's offered it here to forum members. You ought to PM him.Sorry I couldn't check every club in Manila LOL.

And people ask my why I don't just post it here.

Philippine board is comprised mostly of.

For you other folks, feel free to PM me. Got a great 2 month play by play trip report of Manila, Cebu, Dumaguete, Bangkok, Phnom Penh, and Saigon. Along with the most complete Manila nightlife guide you will find on the net.

Hutsori
07-21-14, 03:13
What would you like to know exactly?

Exklusiv is a nice medium range club. Had great results there.

Cowboy Grill is a good time. Bring a date though.

MBC is good for a beer or two shitting the breeze before heading else where.

Zzxyz is fun but the girls seem alittle too hardcore about their money and freelancing.

Quezon City is the best place to party in my opinion. Hardly no foreigners and tons of cute girls. My favorite club there is Excess.I would say that the first four of your observations cover very, very, very, very well-known places. Not really trailblazing there, and the dearth of detail doesn't make an entertaining read. The QC info has good potential because the QC thread is amongst the most unloved here. You ought to focus on that. Could be your niche.

Wicked Roger
07-21-14, 15:08
Sorry I couldn't check every club in Manila LOL.

And people ask my why I don't just post it here.

Philippine board is comprised mostly of.

For you other folks, feel free to PM me. Got a great 2 month play by play trip report of Manila, Cebu, Dumaguete, Bangkok, Phnom Penh, and Saigon. Along with the most complete Manila nightlife guide you will find on the net.Post it on ISG CaliPro, don't tease us, as you asked if Icon is open when we all know the answer (so how can it be complete without knowledge of Icon?) and you have a blow by blow account of the top class pensions and food at under 100 pesos a day in many cities, plus sharing all the hot chick contacts of course with photos just to make sure they are all kosher.

If you do that there is credibility but asking people to PM you for something you have merely culled from the web and ISG members FRs is a little daft and'est pas?

What word was missing from you FR (redacted) - seems like once again you pushed the boundaries by saying most of us on ISG are something bad. If you feel that go to other boards where you play and offer the same information and call them the same words and see the reply, the flood of PMs.

As you as said under you previous now banned handle, you think most are losers as we don't think you are for real as a 28 year old stud who stays in pensions, visits high priced clubs where cokes cost more than your daily budget, ask ISG members where to buy Cialis (at your age really? And has no idea if Icon is open or closed means you can't be taken seriously until to FR you experiences (rather than ask questions as you did once again on the Indonesia board).

Give and take is something many write about but so far you take, never give, and then complain and when some complain that you promise lots but always disappoint. Likely same with all the hot chicks you claim to have porked but again, we don't see any photos of these hot chicks.

So we are still waiting and the lament will always be the same until you run a series of FRs on the relevant threads.

Member #4387
07-21-14, 19:51
What word was missing from you FR (redacted) - seems like once again you pushed the boundaries by saying most of us on ISG are something bad. If you feel that go to other boards where you play and offer the same information and call them the same words and see the reply, the flood of PMs.Sadly he has ruterned under his Paisadash nick on a different Phil forum for addicts with same boring shit bragging like a mr know it all that in fact knows almost nothing claiming to be a world traveller. My guess would be his internetconnection is back on track from his hideout in his moms basement.

So we better hide all our girls out of sight before Calipro aka Paisadash picks them up, treat them his best Jolli meal and the coldest 7/11 act and fucks them to the milkyway and back. This as in a more than heavinly experience to the girls that they rather pay him to have

According to himself on the other forum he is doing his pregaming in LAC to get in the mood.

Ikksman
07-21-14, 22:27
Post it on ISG CaliPro, don't tease us, as you asked if Icon is open when we all know the answer (so how can it be complete without knowledge of Icon?) and you have a blow by blow account of the top class pensions and food at under 100 pesos a day in many cities, plus sharing all the hot chick contacts of course with photos just to make sure they are all kosher.He has no intention of posting the guide here. If you PM'd him he would simply direct you to his new website / blog. His blog at present, has 2 articles / guides which are very short and extremely basic and sketchy. Not worth reading. But obviously he has big plans for the future.

Cheers.

D Cups
07-21-14, 22:50
My guess would be his internet connection is back on track from his hideout in his moms basement...Calipro LOL you guys are are too funny! Perhaps the lad's journeys are all figments of his imagination!

CaliPro
07-21-14, 23:56
Ikksman,

Very short and basic? Lmao Both over 1,000 word articles.

Please tell me where I can find a more complete Manila nightlife guide on the net. I would love to see it.

Even the main website dedicated (#1 in google) to Manila nightlife (manilaclubbingdotcom) is doesn't have all the clubs I cover.

LOL at short and basic.

CaliPro
07-22-14, 00:19
I searched on here and didn't see my FR from my Feb 13' trip.

Trip Report.

Quick Overview.

4 Days.

6 Lays.

1st Day.

Arrived in Manila at 12 pm and was off to my hotel in Makati (One Greenbelt Hotel). Quick word of advice, don't get a taxi from the workers directly when you walk out, go down the the road a bit and get a regular one. The charged me 500 pesos which is double what it should cost. Anyways get to the hotel go to grab a SIM card and some load. I got 100 pesos worth a load a day. After getting my phone set up I decided I buy a few Andros pills which is the local equivalent to Cialis at Mercury Drug across from my hotel. I had never used any ED medicine before but figured what the hell I would try it out. If you do this don't take a whole pill, only half. So after getting everything I needed I started to send out texts from the phone list I amassed before arriving. Some girls don't respond, others are working, ect. To make it worse I can't remb half of them. One girl is free to come meet me. We link up in Glorietta Mall. She is a cute chick (hb7) that looked to innocent for my liking. Got some icecream and told her lets go back to my place to watch a movie. She hesitantly agrees. I am not feeling good about this one and my intuitions where right. Get her back and she puts up some decent LMR. I am not use to day game and sober chicks, I'm an all nightgame guy pulling chicks from the club that I know are DTF. I give up on this chick and tell her some BS as to why I have to go somewhere. Send out a few more texts but decided to just focus on the night. Around 7 pm I head over to Malate to pregame at MBC (Manila Bay Cafe) the world renowned freelance bar before heading out to the discos. I get to talking to a cute waitress which I will hangout with almost every night on my trip. After having some beers, shooting pool, and flirting I bounce back to Greenbelt and walk to the Palladium. This club is pretty nice. Has a good mix of people. For some reason though most people were not dancing. After an hour I decide to bounce and go to Quezon City. I knew Quezon City is where its at in Manila as no tourists go there and to top it off its has a big party scene around Tomas Morato / Quezon Memorial Circle. I get into this club called Space and start dancing with these 2 girls. Its already kinda late so I don't waste much time in asking if they want to bounce. They said Makati was to far or some bs so I eject. See a cute alone making her way from the bathroom so I intercept. She is with a mixed 5 set and invites me over to their table. After making friendly with everyone I grab the girl and pull her to the dance floor. A little later I ask her if she wants to go party with me in Makati and she agrees. Before leaving I remember to pop on my my 1/2 Andros pills. Get her back to the hotel and fuck her silly all night. The Andros pill was amazing. Never been able to get rock hard erections on command that many time after a night of drinking. We had sex like 4 times. The next day she sends me a text saying how she is hurting and can't walk! Good shit.

2nd Day.

Wake up around 1 pm and send that girl off. Go and grab some food at Glorietta mall. If your at the mall go eat at this Italian place called Don Henricos. Good food and portions for the money. I send out a few texts and get some replies. I set up a dinner date with a girl for later that evening. Go back to the hotel stuffed and relax and watch some tv until 6 pm. I go and meet the girl at Glorietta and we go grab some pizza. This girl is much more playful than the one from the previous day. Some how got started talking about music and I told her about my obsession with Spanish music. I play her some tunes on my phone and tell her I can give her some personal salsa and bachata lessons back at my place which she liked. Back in the hotel, I fire up some Romeo Santos and teach her the basic steps. Good thing about bachata for those that don't know is that its a sexual dance with (can be) with you dancing interlocked (crotches). Can really turn a girl on if you know how to position your thighs. Long story short we start makingout and I close. I send this girl on her way with the (I have a work conference at X o'clock). Take a shower and head off to MBC to pregame and chat with the waitress from last night. I go upstairs this time and fuck around with the waitresses. I go back and fourth from upstairs to downstairs by the pool tables. After a few drinks and small talk I decide to head to a club called Candyshop in Quezon City. In the taxi we pass a club called Candyshop but it was empty / closed. I am like WTF as after watching some youtube videos and hearing about this place online I really wanted to go due to its reputation for having slutty chicks. The taxi driver was like maybe there is another Candyshop and goes to ask around. I knew in my head that there was only one big club in Quezon City called the Candyshop. After asking we drive back to check for certain it wasnt opening tonight. I get out the taxi and walk up to the front door. Two young guys walk and I we talk about it being closed. Some dude comes to the door and confirms it is closed. At this point I was like I will just go back to Space from the previous night. Get the taxi driver to drop me off at the main circle and I walk to Space. There is a massive line so I decide to go to Guilly's across the street. It was kinda early so there wasnt alot of people in there and I didn't see any real dance floor or people dancing. I said fuck this and remembered I wanted to hit up a club in Malate called Insomnia so I dip. Get the taxi driver to drop me off at MBC go in and have a beer and ask where is Insomnia. My waitress was gone (got off work at 12) so I chatted with some other girls but it wasnt as fun so after finishing my beer I take a trike (up the street to Insomnia. I like this place with the exception that there is to many Korean university students in there. Cheap beer at 50 pesos. Good amount of slutty chicks. I go post up at a corner on the edge of the dance floor. Group of people beside me dancing and the guy motions me to dance with this girl so I oblige. She was alright but after 2 songs I eject. Had my eye on a few sets but for some reason never open. Then later this 2 set opens me. They look mad slutty and appear to be DTF (hb6 & hb7). Dance for awhile and then I say lets get out of here. I make out with both girls in the cab ride back to the hotel and I am thinking I am about to have a 3 some. (so I thought) We get back to the hotel and I go to use the bathroom. I come out and these bitches are smoking meth on my bed! I am like WTF and in shock. I have been around a few drugs in my life but never nothing as hardcore as fucking meth. This grosses me out and I preach to them that they should not be doing that shit and that it will fuck up your life. They must hadn't been doing it long as they still looked ok (although admittedly they took a decline back in the lighted hotel LOL) I didn't feel comfortable fucking them or having meth in my hotel room so I give them cab money and politely excuse them. At this point I'm pretty pissed as it was late and I would be taking an L for the night. I should have just went back to the club and picked up some stragglers but I call it a night. Oh well.

3rd Day.

Chill at the hotel for awhile. One of the girls I pipelined was blowing me up on facebook wanting to meet so I decide to invite her over. Do the same routine (Glorietta. Lunch - hotel) She puts up no resistance. I really wish online game could be this easy in Korea! LOL Let her chill with me for awhile in the hotel watching tv ect. Later that evening I head over to Robinsons Mall in Malate. I really like this mall, lots of options walking around if day game is your thing. A funny note though there is some lady boys that hangout in the front. One of these fuckers followed me all the way up to the entrance of the mall. Told him out gate I didn't like dick but he proceeded to follow and nag me all the way to the door. You get mad stares in the Mall, more so than in Glorietta which I love. After strolling around I go get some pizza at PizzaHut. Your able to get 2 slices of pizza for 50 pesos! ($1) Cheap! After eating I walk to MBC to see my waitress again. She gets off at 12 so I ask her to go get some food with me. Some how like all the girls that got off at 12 joined us! LOL I wasnt planning on paying for 5 girls but whatever. We cram in a taxi and head to this really local style Filipino restaurant with all the plastic chairs outside ect. There were 2 right beside each other so a lot of people there eating. I liked the feel and atmosphere. Food was mad cheap. 3 of us ordered food and the others just drank. Bill came out to only 500 pesos. After eating some of the girls had to leave so I invite my girl to the Bay Walk. Get there and there is a ton of homeless people sleeping out there. We finally find a place to post up and chill looking over the bay / ocean. We hangout and talk for maybe 1. 5 hours before I ask her to come stay with me tonight which she agrees. (she better as I had been working on her for the past 3 nights) Get her back and seal the deal.

4th Day.

Me and the MBC waitress go and get lunch. She has to be back at work at 4 pm so we go ahead and part ways after lunch. Sweet girl. I send out a text to this girl I pipelined before the trip with a slamming body, she is free and agrees to meet me at Glorietta. I tell her to meet me in front of Burger King in Glorietta 4. She takes forever. I am waiting and I see a sexy girl in a black skirt and yellow sleeveless shirt walk by. I couldn't tell if that was her or not. She sends a text saying she walked by and I was like go back and wait in front. She doesn't respond right away and sends a text asking if I had on a black shirt. At this point I know she was the girl I saw walk by and I can see her posted up behind a pillar. I am like WTF is up with this chick. I decide to walk over there to her. I am like are you Sandra and she is says yea. She seems mad shy and quiet. We go and get icecream. She is so quiet talking is tedious. After finishing the icecream we walk around the mall a bit then I tell her to go back to the hotel to watch a movie. Get her back to the hotel and she is still being reserved to a point where I don't even want to try and escalate. So after awhile I am like I got to get ready to leave. At this point she was like can I get a hug, I was like what about a kiss. I lean in and we start making out. Jackpot baby. After that she turns into a freak! While I fucking her I see my phone on the bed next to her and decide to go for a video. To my surprise she doesn't say anything and lets me film! After finishing I go to meet up with the RVF crew and just have the taxi drop me off that their hotel and have the taxi take the girl to where ever she wants to go. I meet up with THC, Scotian, and 20 Nation. Scotian and 20 Nation had just got done getting there African Cameroon (sp?) flags. Got to say though Scotain gets the wingman of the decade award! Lmfao this dude lays pipe to a massive grenade. Dedication to the team and for the flag right there! He is a better man than I. So at this point I have 4,000 pesos I need to blow before my flight that night. I decide to blow it on a pro. So me and the guys walk to P. Burgos street which is known for girl bars. The first one we go into has nothing but dogs so we walk right back out. The next insnt much better but we stay and have a a beer. Scotain goes wild with one of the girls dancing and shit. Dude is a trip! At this point 20 Nation has to leave for his flight. So we head back to the hotel. We all exchange pleasantries and go our separate ways. At this point my time is running out and I need to find something fast. I remember that Cafe Havana in Greenbelt3 turns into a freelance spot at night so I head over there. Walk around looking for a suitable girl (hb7-9) to no avail. Decide to sit down at Cafe Havana and order some food. After ordering I see this fine chick alone sit down in another table across from me. I know she has to be there looking for an extra buck so I wave her over to my table. She tried to play dumb at first looking behind her like I am motioning to someone else. So I point directly at her again she she comes over. We talk for awhile and I finish my food with her help. She tells me she wants to go to the airport with me and makes no mention of sex / money. I am a bit confused but I am trying smash so I quickly finish my food and off we go to the hotel. We get in the hotel and she changes out of her dress into regular clothes and helps me pack. After packing I lay on the bed and she joins me. I try to heat things up but she puts up some resistance which is perplexing me. I push forward and finally she ask how much I'm going to give her. I tell her I can spare 2,000 pesos (wanted money to keep and to spend on shit at the hotel) and she doesn't object. After some foreplay this girl is mad wet. I seal the deal quickly and we take a shower and head off to the hotel. Get to the hotel and we say our goodbyes and I slip her the 2,000 pesos.

Overall the trip was pretty good and I had fun. Doing it again I would have done some things a bit different which I will touch on in the data sheet.

Anyone interested in my 2 month trip report to Philippines, Cambodia, Thailand, and Vietnam shoot me a pm.

Wicked Roger
07-22-14, 02:30
He has no intention of posting the guide here. If you PM'd him he would simply direct you to his new website / blog. His blog at present, has 2 articles / guides which are very short and extremely basic and sketchy. Not worth reading. But obviously he has big plans for the future.

Cheers.LOL Agreed Ikks as that would be too embarrassing but I will try and find it as his insights so far a travel writer and blogger have not been insightful at all as Amavida posted a link to clubs that had more information than his previous contributions on the board.

Can you post his link so we can all have a good chuckle and may leave a few comments about the paucity of his information.

Be careful as he has a habit of placing all who criticize him on the Ignore List so he basically only reads those FRs who praise him. So he has limited reading on ISG so far LOL.

Ikksman
07-22-14, 05:01
LOL Agreed Ikks as that would be too embarrassing but I will try and find it as his insights so far a travel writer and blogger have not been insightful at all as Amavida posted a link to clubs that had more information than his previous contributions on the board.

Can you post his link so we can all have a good chuckle and may leave a few comments about the paucity of his information.

Be careful as he has a habit of placing all who criticize him on the Ignore List so he basically only reads those FRs who praise him. So he has limited reading on ISG so far LOL.Just google his other name "Paisadash" and his site will appear.

His nightlife blog is a basic 2 lines on each nightspot. No real insights. Second blog is about meeting pinays! I could have written the same info in 2 sentences.

All his info is totally basic and readily available in lots of places on the internet including here.

Cheers

Hutsori
07-22-14, 06:56
Trip Report.

Quick Overview.

4 Days.

6 Lays.

1st Day.

Arrived in Manila at 12 pm and was off to my hotel in Makati (One Greenbelt Hotel). Quick word of advice, don't get a taxi from the workers directly when you walk out, go down the the road a bit and get a regular one. The charged me 500 pesos which is double what it should cost. Anyways get to the hotel go to grab a SIM card and some load. I got 100 pesos worth a load a day. After getting my phone set up I decided I buy a few Andros pills which is the local equivalent to Cialis at Mercury Drug across from my hotel...


Jeez, all this build up for this. What an amateurish report. This FR is riddled with pick-up artist (PUA) jargon but almost no PUA scores - the QC girl may count. The whole PUA experience is to avoid p4p, i.e. mad skillz trump cash, and many devote a lot of time, effort, and (stupidly) cash reading and watching how-to guides. Yet this fella is in MBC, Burgos, and Havana and his Insomnia pick ups are meth heads - the only skillz one needs at those places are to inhale and exhale, so the whole PUA effort is a waste if those are the places you play. A PUA is scoring at Prive, Republic, etc. The sunshine doesn't degrade the PUA's powers; during the day a PUA is at BGC chatting up the birds and at the very least getting names and numbers. The QC info is decent and ought to be expanded; since it's the place where foreigners don't go I have no idea why he's back at MBC, Burgos and Havana. QC is fertile ground.

For a fella who is concerned with stretching the peso he even does phone load wrong. Here's a hint: you could have had unlimited texts, 180 minutes of voice, and 100 mb data for a month for p250. You spent p400 for 4 days of texting. You could have done unlimited texting for p20-30 a day.

Six lays in 4 days and Andros is needed? There's another waste of money - I recall Andros runs approx. p500 a 100mg tablet. If you're pulling 4 girls a day, which is very feasible when you don't spend your life in a taxi, then Andros may be needed. And merc sells a cheaper sildenafil citrate for 5 100mg tablets for p707.50.

I'm a big advocate of people taking a different path and I have no problems with guys looking to minimize their expenses and getting away from the same old places. I think it ought to be encouraged. But to pitch some guide as the be-all-and-know-all for Manila... what I've read here seems very much oversell and under deliver.

FreebieFan
07-22-14, 08:57
although perhaps the difference between mine and the superstud caliwhoever is that this is my 50th trip report. or 60th. whatever.

so the plan, and newbies take note, plans never work out was as follows.

miss are from an island was coming to manila. i was going to have her night 1, night 3 and night 5. a 19 year old young lady who realises theres no fun on an island and that filipinos boys are generally useless. a lady who is discovering herself and seemed ready for some dares (freebie will you tie me up. freebie will you give me a [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) " etc.

miss w from muntinlupa (21) who was cuteness personified. plan was to have her afternoon of day 2.

miss l from caloocan. 25. wasnt sure about her.

miss m from mckinley. (25) had her before but definitely worth a repeat.

miss k (1). from paranaque (20) for swimming and whatever else and.

miss k (2). a also 20 years who i've known for a while and who is the star of many of my home made movies.

so that was the plan. and as we all know plans get screwed and you got to roll with them.

i'm not skogis's age or energy levels anymore and my previous excesses of trying to do 10 in 5 days have ended. i'm officially over that. now i prefer more leisurely time.

the week started badly when miss w told me, 7 days before the planned meet that her work visa for taipei was approved and she was off two days before the meet. she seemed more upset than i was and her daily messages and pics on whatsapp seem evidence of that.

my dear pal flight was 4 hours late and then miss are and i play the "where are you, i'm here game" in the rain at night. we eventually meet and she's shorter than i thought but young and vivacious. we walk to the hotel, down the quiet street near fairmont and she takes my hand and lets me feel her boobs. ok game on. we get to hotel and no need to talk. i turn off lights, pick her up, put her on desk and take from the rear. / she seemed to enjoy. she told me she had been watching videos of how to give hj and bj, and could she practice on me. sure i replied. eventually we sleep, have a morning round. i go to work and plan on seeing her on day 2 afternoon.

sadly she sends me a text later that day saying grandad is in hospital, and mom with her weak heart needs daughter to take mom back to the island. she sent me pics of the ferry, and the hospital and is still "vibering me" about future dares so i guess it was true. never asked for a penny either, good girl.

did some work and move onto miss l. she's on time and came with mom. i see mom and think the daughter, whilst looking great will not be a beauty when she's older. mom asks and gets p200 transport money. take daughter to landmark for a bikini and then for a swim.

filipnas are very funny. we get to pool and theres a filipina maid nearby, looking after some white kids.

my girl, goes and talks to the maid. maid didn't realize i understand tagalog so she's asking my girl " so is he your bf, is he rich, did you fuck him yet, has he got a big one". filipinas must be the nosiest people in the world.

we swim, and then to bed. she says she's not a virgin but says she's never been naked in bed with a man. meaning she and some trike driver maybe did it standing up somewhere.

nice body, nice reactions from her, it was all good. sent her on her way in the morning. and even though she had sent me messages on viber all week prior to the meet, she went dead silent after. maybe because when she said " freebie can i borrow p10,000 to look for a job, i said no. ".

then met miss k. nice looking girl. she turned up in high heels that were clearly very painful for her to walk in.

plus filipinas generally don't like walking more than 5 paces anyway.

buy bikini and off to pool. she can't swim but the beauty of the pool meet, is that you can touch and hold all the body before unwrapping it.

eventually after swimming up to bed and she's lovely. pussy juice was tasty like hot butter. and she loved to grab me and kiss. lips locked for hours.

she leaves as i'm supposed to meet miss m. who texts me she's sick and no voice. oh well. text miss k and say lets have a night out. she's ready so we go to burgos and see some bars. see the usual shabu riddled black filipina talking to her hand, and some less than great bodies in stardust and then home to bed.

next day its miss k2. she was one hour late but came from rizal so forgiven. we still have a certain magic. she says i'm her first and only one. who knows. i send her off, do some work, and then call up miss k1 again. i seem to prefer to be with those i know rather than random strangers these days.

miss k knows its my last night so makes great efforts and we both go to the airport very early. she then stays in my cab back to paranaque.

the flight. of course it was on time departing. if only it had been on time arriving in manila. who knows what miss are might have done.

during the trip, lots of wechat friend requests. half of them from gays. a few cute girls on beetalk also that showed promise.

all in all another great trip, not as many pics as before, but a lot better more fun company and better sex. quality quantity arguments will abound.

newbies note that plans will never follow a straight line.

most girls were given a blue note. although miss are was more happy with a silk scarf and some old books i gave her, and a box of english breakfast tea. classy girl.

all asked in advance for chocolates, none got. i'm tired of carrying chocolates country to country.

back at home, gf says " hi freebie, i missed you, can we meet tonight. " i'm thinking honey i got a real sore dick and very sleepy but as she's 24 and cute i reply " of course honey! ".

WestCoast1
07-22-14, 10:44
I'll go on record as saying he's finally fulfilled his obligation to post a descriptive field report. "Props dude".


After an hour I decide to bounce

I don't waste much time in asking if they want to bounce

wanted to hit up a club in Malate called Insomnia so I dip

I go post up at a corner
He flips, bounces, dips, and posts up. Colorful.


At this point I know she was the girl I saw walk by and I can see her posted up behind a pillar. I am like WTF is up with this chick. I decide to walk over there to her. I am like are you Sandra and she is says yea. She seems mad shy and quiet. Yes, they are shy girls. Like, they play by a different set of cultural rules.


Lmfao this dude lays pipe to a massive grenade.Huh? Can one of you San Ferando guys translate that?

Radical Guy
07-22-14, 11:06
Jeez, all this build up for this. What an amateurish report. This FR is riddled with pick-up artist (PUA) jargon but almost no PUA scores - the QC girl may count. The whole PUA experience is to avoid p4p, i.e. mad skillz trump cash, and many devote a lot of time, effort, and (stupidly) cash reading and watching how-to guides. Yet this fella is in MBC, Burgos, and Havana and his Insomnia pick ups are meth heads - the only skillz one needs at those places are to inhale and exhale, so the whole PUA effort is a waste if those are the places you play. A PUA is scoring at Prive, Republic, etc. The sunshine doesn't degrade the PUA's powers; during the day a PUA is at BGC chatting up the birds and at the very least getting names and numbers. The QC info is decent and ought to be expanded; since it's the place where foreigners don't go I have no idea why he's back at MBC, Burgos and Havana. QC is fertile ground.

For a fella who is concerned with stretching the peso he even does phone load wrong. Here's a hint: you could have had unlimited texts, 180 minutes of voice, and 100 mb data for a month for p250. You spent p400 for 4 days of texting. You could have done unlimited texting for p20-30 a day.

Six lays in 4 days and Andros is needed? There's another waste of money - I recall Andros runs approx. p500 a 100mg tablet. If you're pulling 4 girls a day, which is very feasible when you don't spend your life in a taxi, then Andros may be needed. And merc sells a cheaper sildenafil citrate for 5 100mg tablets for p707.50.

I'm a big advocate of people taking a different path and I have no problems with guys looking to minimize their expenses and getting away from the same old places. I think it ought to be encouraged. But to pitch some guide as the be-all-and-know-all for Manila... what I've read here seems very much oversell and under deliver.Look guys, Calipro made a concerted effort to write an extensive and detailed FR. I found it entertaining, and did get some tidbits of info from it. If you don't like someone's FR, then simply write your own, or just don't read them if they bother you so much. This isn't a college class on effective mongering FR writing, so no need to provide a "grade. ".

RG.

Hutsori
07-22-14, 11:50
RG, I think you missed the prelude of a few (or was it many?) months ago.


I found it entertaining, and did get some tidbits of info from it.Okay, I'll bite: What tidbits did you learn?

Please understand that twice I've written that his QC info (Timog & Tomas Morato Ave) could be of benefit to the forum. I genuinely believe this.

Hutsori
07-22-14, 11:55
"Lmfao this dude lays pipe to a massive grenade."

Huh? Can one of you San Ferando guys translate that?It's PUA speak, see http://www.pualingo.com, where you can define all the other PUA jargon of his post. I recall this Scotian fella is a RL dwarf who comments on the Roosh PUA site. His FRs (aka datasheets in the PUA world) are on occasion entertaining reads.

Pip Jaeger
07-22-14, 11:56
Look guys, Calipro made a concerted effort to write an extensive and detailed FR. I found it entertaining, and did get some tidbits of info from it. If you don't like someone's FR, then simply write your own, or just don't read them if they bother you so much. This isn't a college class on effective mongering FR writing, so no need to provide a "grade. ".

RG.To point I agree, but given his posting history he hasn't exactly made many friends here. Although it does seem he has many among the backpackers as from his writing style / word usage it appears that's the crowd he's writing for and not the sentient as well as mostly intelligent readers here.

And it seems his mommy increased his allowance as before he boasted about mongering on 500 p per day. Just to list a few discrepancies: I now noticed that he's staying in a hotel as opposed to pension / boarding house, easily spent over 500 p on taxis on some days, donated 2,000 p to a pro (something he said he'd never do) and ate in restos as opposed to cheap street food.

So can you blame a few guys for jumping on his case and critiquing his FR's?

AskeAske
07-22-14, 11:59
Look guys, Calipro made a concerted effort to write an extensive and detailed FR. I found it entertaining, and did get some tidbits of info from it. If you don't like someone's FR, then simply write your own, or just don't read them if they bother you so much. This isn't a college class on effective mongering FR writing, so no need to provide a "grade. ".

RG.Everyone picks on Calipro because he a year ago wrote many reports on various treads on ISG with a lot of questions and describing how he would fuck with WG without paying. Eventually, Jackson had to delete his reports with the threat of being excluded from ISG. There are many senior members who have not forgotten this.

The final report is the first real report I se from CB.

Now CP try to use ISG to get more people to see his new blog. This is also against the forum rules as we do not have to advertise for competing pages.

You do not have to spend time watching his new blog, since it does not contribute any new knowledge.

Member #4387
07-22-14, 13:02
And in Calipros report he claims to have had his usual cheapskatefun at Insomnia. Isn't that one closed and have moved to diff location now named Exklusiv. If so how could he do his excellent clubbing routine at Insomnia or is he just using names he finds at the internet and places himself in Manila (mindwandering). I haven't been in the Malate area for a goid year now but I have heard or read somewhere Insomnia is closed (as their homepage also states).

CaliPro
07-22-14, 13:52
and in calipros report he claims to have had his usual cheapskatefun at insomnia. isn't that one closed and have moved to diff location now named exklusiv. if so how could he do his excellent clubbing routine at insomnia or is he just using names he finds at the internet and places himself in manila (mindwandering). i haven't been in the malate area for a goid year now but i have heard or read somewhere insomnia is closed (as their homepage also states).that report was dated feb 2013. insomnia was still around and that was before exklusiv opened up.

on my second arrival to manila (november / december 2014) was when insomnia closed and exklusiv was opened.


everyone picks on calipro because he a year ago wrote many reports on various treads on isg with a lot of questions and describing how he would fuck with wg without paying. eventually, jackson had to delete his reports with the threat of being excluded from isg. there are many senior members who have not forgotten this.

the final report is the first real report i se from cb.

now cp try to use isg to get more people to see his new blog. this is also against the forum rules as we do not have to advertise for competing pages.

you do not have to spend time watching his new blog, since it does not contribute any new knowledge.i never made a report on the isg with this handle not sure how i could have had reports deleted. now i did have various redactions from posts in which i was engaged in pissing matches with other members. additionally, i have numerous trip reports in latin america on my old handle of tarheelbred. even with the calipro handle i posted a very detailed map of manila, along with the most extensive list of pensions and apartelles you will find on the net for manila and cebu.


to point i agree, but given his posting history he hasn't exactly made many friends here. although it does seem he has many among the backpackers as from his writing style / word usage it appears that's the crowd he's writing for and not the sentient as well as mostly intelligent readers here.

and it seems his mommy increased his allowance as before he boasted about mongering on 500 p per day. just to list a few discrepancies: i now noticed that he's staying in a hotel as opposed to pension / boarding house, easily spent over 500 p on taxis on some days, donated 2,000 p to a pro (something he said he'd never do) and ate in restos as opposed to cheap street food.

so can you blame a few guys for jumping on his case and critiquing his fr's?i not a "monger" sir. i can count on 1 hand the amount of times a have p4p and that is spanning 5 years of travel. so i am not sure where you are getting this "mongering budget". additionally, i never said i would never p4 p as i have done it before (colombia, costa rica, and philippines) and have no problems with the p4 p scene and people that indulge in such. which from my circles is quite rare. most young guys are opposed to it and can not see the benefits or fun that can be had from p4p. non the less it works out better for me as my peers usually stay clear of those places making my value even higher.


jeez, all this build up for this. what an amateurish report. this fr is riddled with pick-up artist (pua) jargon but almost no pua scores - the qc girl may count. the whole pua experience is to avoid p4p, i.e. mad skillz trump cash, and many devote a lot of time, effort, and (stupidly) cash reading and watching how-to guides. yet this fella is in mbc, burgos, and havana and his insomnia pick ups are meth heads - the only skillz one needs at those places are to inhale and exhale, so the whole pua effort is a waste if those are the places you play. a pua is scoring at prive, republic, etc. the sunshine doesn't degrade the pua's powers; during the day a pua is at bgc chatting up the birds and at the very least getting names and numbers. the qc info is decent and ought to be expanded; since it's the place where foreigners don't go i have no idea why he's back at mbc...you must not be familiar with my stance. i am no pua and kinda despise most of the scene. yes, i do use some of the lingo as my peers use it heavily. some terms actually have good uses and theories behind them ie ioi's. for the record i am just a normal dude that loves to travel and bed exotic women. i barely even recognize the term game. to me it is mostly basic personality and understanding of human dynamics.

republiq is filled with gringo hunters and sluts. pulling there is nothing to brag about. prive? ok yea that is a little more impressive. but then again normal girls go there to party as well. only props i will give to anyone in the philippines is he he scores some extremely rich / affluent and hot chick or someone famous ie model or celebrity.

i go to mbc because i enjoy the seedy raunchy atmosphere. nothing more nothing less. (well there was a cute waitress on my first trip, second trip didn't yield any cute mbc waitresses).

andros is never a waste of money. i can not fuck rock hard 3-4 times in one night without "extra juice".

my trip report is nothing more than my experiences.


look guys, calipro made a concerted effort to write an extensive and detailed fr. i found it entertaining, and did get some tidbits of info from it. if you don't like someone's fr, then simply write your own, or just don't read them if they bother you so much. this isn't a college class on effective mongering fr writing, so no need to provide a "grade. ".glad to see there are some solid posters on the phi board.

people here get offended when they discover i am x years old and plan to go about getting girls or have opinions that are different than theirs. then they make inflamatory remarks causing me to respond in kind. which i admit is stupid of me. this will be the last post i make responding to any negative comments thrown my way.

Hutsori
07-22-14, 14:29
And in Calipros report he claims to have had his usual cheapskatefun at Insomnia. Isn't that one closed and have moved to diff location now named Exklusiv. If so how could he do his excellent clubbing routine at Insomnia or is he just using names he finds at the internet and places himself in Manila (mindwandering). I haven't been in the Malate area for a goid year now but I have heard or read somewhere Insomnia is closed (as their homepage also states).In his defence that FR was from Feb and if memory serves me right Insomnia was still kickin' at that time, just prior to its move to Exclusiv.

Edit: my memory isn't what it once was. I posted a FR of the new Exclusiv on 22 Dec 2013, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1510560#post1510560. Maybe his Feb FR was of a visit here in December.

Pip Jaeger
07-22-14, 18:46
snip

i not a "monger" sir. i can count on 1 hand the amount of times a have p4p and that is spanning 5 years of travel. so i am not sure where you are getting this "mongering budget". additionally, i never said i would never p4 p as i have done it before (colombia, costa rica, and philippines) and have no problems with the p4 p scene and people that indulge in such. which from my circles is quite rare. most young guys are opposed to it and can not see the benefits or fun that can be had from p4p. non the less it works out better for me as my peers usually stay clear of those places making my value even higher.

if you're not a monger, then why post here as isg is primarily for mongers? i'm sure there are other boards / blogs / forums for you to spin your tales. note: i'm not trying to discourage you from posting here, just curious why you bother to do so.

and here's just 3 examples i was able to find of your duplicity in a few minutes; i'll let other board members refute the rest of your bs if they choose to do so. i, for one, have a very hard time believing most of you write here, but i do often find it (and the subsequent replies) entertaining, lol.


generally speaking i don't pay for sex (i have done it a few times in my life, but don't plan on partaking in philippines).

my party budget includes cheap food and alcohol for the girls i meet and go on dates with.

keep in mind i am 27.


snip
i don't do barfines or anything. manly just pick up girls in regular clubs or try and shore some girls from fl spots.

snip


i just realized i am budgeting 30usd a night for my entire trip (philippines, thailand, and indonesia).snip
i suppose i might better tell the women i meet that i don't pay for sex, and don't have the money even if i did.

snip.

also, don't take me wrong. i'm glad you decided to make at least one monetary donation to a girl. beats just a cheap beer, a 5 peso bag of chips and a shot of sperm.

Hutsori
07-22-14, 19:21
If you're not a monger, then why post here as ISG is primarily for mongers?To be fair it is the International Sex Guide and not the International Prostitution Guide. Granted, the vast majority of posts are on the topic of p4p, yet this forum to my knowledge is not for p4p exclusively. I'm completely in favour of any and all commentators that further my hapenis in the pursuit of sex. My issue with Tarheel / CaliPro is mainly the oversell and under deliver. I actually hoped it went as he intended when he first posted his plans - I realise this places me in the minority here. Perhaps he'll see it's wiser to post this-is-what-I-did comments rather than this-is-what-I'm-gonna do ones; you're setting yourself up for a fall if it doesn't go as trumpeted. Given he's been here a total of two times, which puts him in the newbie camp firmly, and hasn't really provided anything other than a rehash of what is already very well known I've concluded that his comments were and are hubristic. I'm not surprised by the bollocking he's receiving here. I do hope it doesn't dissuade others, and as I said earlier he has the opportunity to provide in-depth info of the Timog / Tomas Morato area.

Pip Jaeger
07-22-14, 19:54
To be fair it is the International Sex Guide and not the International Prostitution Guide. Granted, the vast majority of posts are on the topic of p4p, yet this forum to my knowledge is not for p4p exclusively. I'm completely in favour of any and all commentators that further my hapenis in the pursuit of sex. Let's not get into a flame war over semantics and I never said "exclusively"; I said primarily. Perhaps I should have used a less forceful word, so my bad. And I also did say I'm not trying to discourage his posting here; I only question why he bothers because, as you have said, most of his comments do receive quite a bit of "bollocking". I too am in favor of any one contributing something substantive in the pursuit of my sexual happiness.


My issue with Tarheel / CaliPro is mainly the oversell and under deliver. I actually hoped it went as he intended when he first posted his plans - I realise this places me in the minority here. Perhaps he'll see it's wiser to post this-is-what-I-did comments rather than this-is-what-I'm-gonna do ones; you're setting yourself up for a fall if it doesn't go as trumpeted. Given he's been here a total of two times, which puts him in the newbie camp firmly, and hasn't really provided anything other than a rehash of what is already very well known I've concluded that his comments were and are hubristic. I'm not surprised by the bollocking he's receiving here. I do hope it doesn't dissuade others, and as I said earlier he has the opportunity to provide in-depth info of the Timog / Tomas Morato area.Actually I don't think you are in the minority, IMHO many of us here were hoping for more from him. A long time ago I said something to the effect that I was looking forward to hearing his perspective on things in the Phils; that is to say from a younger guy on a tight budget. But what little factual firsthand knowledge he's posted to date has been grossly disappointing and, again as you so aptly mentioned, hubristic.

Hutsori
07-22-14, 20:55
let's not get into a flame war over semantics and i never said "exclusively";
pip, no flames seen nor sought. i largely agree with what you've written. just a pet peeve of mine. sorry.

CaliPro
07-22-14, 23:42
If you're not a monger, then why post here as ISG is primarily for mongers? I'm sure there are other boards / blogs / forums for you to spin your tales. Note: I'm not trying to discourage you from posting here, just curious why you bother to do so.

And here's just 3 examples I was able to find of your duplicity in a few minutes; I'll let other board members refute the rest of your BS if they choose to do so. I, for one, have a very hard time believing most of you write here, but I do often find it (and the subsequent replies) entertaining, LOL.Good question for which I have a few answers.

1) ISG board is a good source of information, all information, not just brothels and hooker prices. ISG is one of the best places to find out what hotels are girl friendly. Which is very important for someone like me who plans to be meeting women and bringing them back to the hotel. At the same token, mongers here at ISG could maybe gain info from me as I might be a little more plugged into the normal bar and club scene. The more information, insights, and trip reports the better in my opinion.

2) I enjoy the seedier areas, gogo bars, strip clubs, and freelance clubs. Great places to go and have fun even if you are not looking to P4 P. Not to mention the chance of getting a hot girls number and maybe fucking her for free. Like I said, I like to begin my nights in Manila at MBC shooting pool, having a few beers, and shitting the breeze with some WG's and waitresses.

3) While I am not a monger per say, I have and will probably indulge in P4P again in the future. Like I said, I have no issue with P4P and the men and women you make that their trade.

There is no duplicity in my posts. What you quoted was me speaking generally or what I "planned" to do for x trip. To give you an analogy, if someone asks if I am a smoker or smoke, I will tell them no I am not or maybe even tell them I do not smoke. However, I have on a few rare occasions smoked a cigarette. Your 3rd quoted SNIP is merely what I tell girls that I plan to "shore" (WGs I fuck for free) as I am not trying to lead them on nor am I trying to have an argument in the money about money. They are there to make money so if they choose to leave with me I want them to understand and it to be their choice.


To be fair it is the International Sex Guide and not the International Prostitution Guide. Granted, the vast majority of posts are on the topic of p4p, yet this forum to my knowledge is not for p4p exclusively. I'm completely in favour of any and all commentators that further my hapenis in the pursuit of sex. My issue with Tarheel / CaliPro is mainly the oversell and under deliver. I actually hoped it went as he intended when he first posted his plans - I realise this places me in the minority here. Perhaps he'll see it's wiser to post this-is-what-I-did comments rather than this-is-what-I'm-gonna do ones; you're setting yourself up for a fall if it doesn't go as trumpeted. Given he's been here a total of two times, which puts him in the newbie camp firmly, and hasn't really provided anything other than a rehash of what is already very well known I've concluded that his comments were and are hubristic. I'm not surprised by the bollocking he's receiving here. I do hope it doesn't dissuade others, and as I said earlier he has the opportunity to provide in-depth info of the Timog / Tomas Morato area.I am not sure why you have an issue with people being excited and having goals or ideas of how they want their trip to go. While I didn't fuck the number I originally planned, that in no way made my trip a failure or set me up for some fall. I fucked plenty of girls and had a great time. The only way for a trip to be a failure for me would be to completely strike out and not get laid. Hell, even then the trip wouldn't be a complete failure as I just being in a new country, partying having a good time is a win.


Actually I don't think you are in the minority, IMHO many of us here were hoping for more from him. A long time ago I said something to the effect that I was looking forward to hearing his perspective on things in the Phils; that is to say from a younger guy on a tight budget. But what little factual firsthand knowledge he's posted to date has been grossly disappointing and, again as you so aptly mentioned, hubristic.The reason why I do not post here a lot and give info is obvious. I get ridiculed for xy and z. This board and a few of it's members have an issue with people doing things differently or having differing opinions and can tend to flame others.

I have not once made an incendiary unprovoked comment towards another poster. I respect everyone's opinion and value everyone's info regardless of the quality or content. Like I said, the more info I have to pull from will only make my trip better.

OneIpole
07-23-14, 08:04
And in Calipros report he claims to have had his usual cheapskatefun at Insomnia. Isn't that one closed and have moved to diff location now named Exklusiv. If so how could he do his excellent clubbing routine at Insomnia or is he just using names he finds at the internet and places himself in Manila (mindwandering). I haven't been in the Malate area for a goid year now but I have heard or read somewhere Insomnia is closed (as their homepage also states).Yes it been closed for Months now (Insomia).

Amavida
07-23-14, 10:02
Guys my last bar fine from Samba is texting me that they still have no power & little water there. She claims to have no work for days due to bar closure. Asking me for fare to come stay at my place.

I don't play head games but who knows what bloody lies are behind this. Can anyone confirm EDSA closures this week?

AV.

DesiDownUnder
07-23-14, 13:02
Was in Manila last month. Visited Spada on Taft Avenue. Very good Lingam Massage & Body Wash with a very good finish.

Does anyone know of any other places with similar services?

TurekMn
07-23-14, 13:34
Guys my last bar fine from Samba is texting me that they still have no power & little water there. She claims to have no work for days due to bar closure. Asking me for fare to come stay at my place.

I don't play head games but who knows what bloody lies are behind this. Can anyone confirm EDSA closures this week?

AV.Upsss.

I will return to the Philippines to joy some girls after few years. In EDSA I met a few very good girls. Where to go now?

Is there something like erotic ads website? Or some list of hookers?

I do not have time to chat on dating websites.

WestCoast1
07-23-14, 18:40
SNIP Where to go now?

Is there something like erotic ads website? Or some list of hookers?

I do not have time to chat on dating websites.You do have time to RTTF and the money to buy a subscription here, yes?

I don't see any of your past Trip Reports here.

Slippery
07-23-14, 23:26
Guys my last bar fine from Samba is texting me that they still have no power & little water there. She claims to have no work for days due to bar closure. Asking me for fare to come stay at my place.

I don't play head games but who knows what bloody lies are behind this. Can anyone confirm EDSA closures this week?

AV.Can't give you a yes or no but can give a more definitive response than TurekMn. I live about half way between Manila and Tagaytay and we got hit pretty hard. Due to no electricity or water here, I went to a hotel in Manila the 2nd morning after the typhoon. On the ride in I remarked that Manila seemed to have significantly less damage than where I live. We actually got off the bus across the street from the Edsa complex. Our electricity and water returned on my 3rd day in Manila.

Amavida
07-24-14, 08:32
Can't give you a yes or no but can give a more definitive response than TurekMn. I live about half way between Manila and Tagaytay and we got hit pretty hard. Due to no electricity or water here, I went to a hotel in Manila the 2nd morning after the typhoon. On the ride in I remarked that Manila seemed to have significantly less damage than where I live. We actually got off the bus across the street from the Edsa complex. Our electricity and water returned on my 3rd day in Manila.Thanks Slippery. Samba girl is insisting she still has no power as of today, Thursday & mosquitoes eating her up. I have a felling this little soap opera may just top last weeks little drama but ever the one for adventure I sent her a fare to bus her in to Dau. I have a lot of sweet girlfriends, this could get very interesting in coming days.

AV.

Amavida
07-24-14, 10:29
Can't give you a yes or no but can give a more definitive response than TurekMn. I live about half way between Manila and Tagaytay and we got hit pretty hard. Due to no electricity or water here, I went to a hotel in Manila the 2nd morning after the typhoon. On the ride in I remarked that Manila seemed to have significantly less damage than where I live. We actually got off the bus across the street from the Edsa complex. Our electricity and water returned on my 3rd day in Manila.Sorry to hear that Slippery. Hope you're back on line soon! Thank you for the info mate.

AV.

Jdbkk555
07-26-14, 04:26
I'm staying near resorts world. Thought I'd check out the casino area, just to see what might be crawling there. Noticed her smile at me as I passed by. She was a very hungry girl, to say the least. One thing about Pinay, they seem to be a most horny bunch and don't mind at all picking up a guy for the night.

Suggestions, take a walk through the casino just to see how many ladies catch your attention. Perhaps not the sexy girls from Makati, but what the hell, and the price is right.

CaliPro
07-28-14, 01:02
note* this is pulled off another forum i am active on. so some names and terminology might not be familiar to you. apologies in advance. it started out fairly detailed but then i got lazy (my routine remained fairly consistent and my internet sucked) anyways maybe some of you might find it entertaining. i was in manila for about 16 nights before heading to cebu.

day 1.

arrive in manila around 12 pm. i had already exchanged about 300 usd at the airport in seoul. airport taxis are crazy expensive (quoted 700 p to go to paco). after walking around outside i found a white taxi willing to take me for 350 p. the drive only took 25 minutes to my surprise.

check into the gohotel otis located at robinsons ortis mall in paco. nice room for about 20 usd a night. only complaint is the internet is painfully slow. enough for basic browsing but streaming video is very hard if not impossible. not sure if this is just a problem with my room or a hotel problem. location is pretty convenient for me. mall has places to eat and a super market. about a 8 minute ride from malate. i've been taking the moto taxi. not sure the right price but they tell me 80-60 p and i say 50 p which they agree. i am thinking this is too much. should probably tell them 40 p. head to the robinsons malate mall kinda early 8 pm. fuck around for about 30 minutes and then head to mbc. there was not hardly any cute waitresses like last time. i think i only saw one worth chatting to. beers here are expensive at 120 p for a sml. didn't really pay attention to the working girls. i played on game of pool and made a few laps for dipping to go to bellagio square. place was pretty lively and had a bang playing. i text a girl i met online who i knew always went to bellagio square. literally 30 seconds after messaging her i see her with a friend sitting at some tables. i join them and later another friends arrives. we decide to go to exklusiv. no cover. people dressed on he nicer side. played techno much to my despair. night was going good. i danced with my girl and made out. then someone goes and steals her iphone. completely changes the mood as she get upset and pissed. we decide to leave and hop in a taxi. at this point i am not sure what she is planning to do ie get dropped off with her friend or go back with me. i didn't mention anything and kinda took a wait and see approach. get to their apartment and she says she will message me later. at this point i was like fuck. i tell the taxi to take me back to my hotel, half way i change my mind and say fuck this and tell the taxi mbc. its pretty late at this point but first night in manila i need to get laid.

get to mbc and i post up with a beer. start chatting to a chinese american guy. a pretty good looking girl sits next to us. the guy and her talk. he ventures off some where and she tells me that she doesn't think he will take her. i said how much did you charge him and she replies 3,000 p. i tell her that is too much and that it is pretty late. she should offer him 1.5-2 k. we chat for awhile and i tell i'm going across the street for food and she decides to join me. the fucking sun is up. we eat and she says lets go to my hotel. i make a crucial error here. i don't clarify and money issues, however i am pretty sure i told her inside mbc that i don't pay for sex. regardless we get back to hotel, i stop into the mercury drug next door and get a andros pill (250 p? go up to room and she takes a shower. laying on bed and she asks me how much will you pay me. i want to tell her nothing but i know she won't do that (she appears to be about her paper). i tell her 1. 5 and she counters with 2 k. i reluctantly agree. bad decision as i didn't even get a nut from it. this girl i could tell was rushing me and i just lost interest and told her to leave.

with the lack of a cute waitress i doubt i will be returning to mbc on this trip. i will also have to make damn sure i mention money when attempting to shore. rookie mistake i know smh.

on a positive note it feels damn good to be in philippines. got a date lined up for tonight with this girl i posted earlier in the thread.

day 2.

sleep most of the day due to going to bed so late. go and grab some lunch downstairs in the mall. beings the previous night i was with a girl and her friends i wanted to spend this night out venturing around alone. before leaving the hotel i make a map of malate to guide me around. i get a moto taxi to take me to robinsons malate. get some icecream and venture around. after awhile i head to mbc. go upstairs and spend most my time chatting with the waitresses. there is one cute one and was confusing me. it was clear i was favoring her and she would reciprocate some but then retreat. not sure what the deal was but i grew tired of it and went back downstairs. i spot one pretty cute petite waitress i didn't notice from the other night. i might go back to mbc at some point to chat with her if i have some time to kill. leave and head to bellagio square. sunday night and kind of early so not many people. i have 1 beer at the place from the previous night with the girls. the waiters ask me where is erica and i tell them she is staying in tonight. finish my beer quick and start venturing around.

happen upon super six which was dead / empty. next up i hear some music and a good crowd at calle 5 so i decide to go in. first thing you notice is the large number of waitresses. a band was playing and there was a small dance floor with local filipinos dancing. this is a pretty local joint. only saw 1 other white guy in here. i nurse a beer and leave after the last band plays. next up i look for cowboy grill. get there and the place is packed. lots of foreigners with girls. get a beer and make a few laps around the place hoping some girls would bite. no luck. as i mentioned most tables were mixed sets from my recollection. not a great place to go for pickup. funny note i saw a girl a met online her with some white guy. after a short while i leave. chat with about 5 street kids and tell them ill get them icecream. all of a sudden the 5 kids ballooned to 20! lol go into the 7/11 and have them all pick out what they want. price was more than i expected (800 p). oh well, good dead for the day. should have took them to a angle burger i saw afterwards, 20 p for burger.

continue walking around and come up paddys point. a place i have heard about but never included in my manila sheet / map. hear music and go in. decent little crowd all local. pound back 1 beer and continue on. next up was the other cowboy grill. pretty good crowd here too. smaller than the other cowboy grill. also played hip hop i believe. didn't even get a beer here and left after one lap. at this point i want to hurry up and get to exklusiv or zzxyz so i make my way to remedios circle. see zzxyz (no cover) and decide to go in. lots of girls without guys here. what i heard was true ie many asian guys here. music was not to my liking though as this place place house / techno. i get a beer and post up near the dance floor. no immediate heavy iois. go upstairs to chill over looking the bottom floor. after about 40 minutes i decide to call it a night.

this was a very poor night. i really shit the bed. normally there are a few girls to actively open me every night but last night that was not the case. i can't use that as an excuse. there is no reason why i didn't open at least 5 different girls last night. on top of that i was only searching for iois at half speed. i didn't make solid eye contact like i should have been. it should be criminal to go alone home in philippines. got to be more pro active if things are not coming easily, which they won't every night.

anyways just got to fix these issues and stop being so damn lazy. got a date tonight which i am 90% sure is dtf. we will see.

day 3.

did my normal day routine ie sleep in late, mall for lunch and relax. set up a date with a girl i met on fc. met her at robinsons malate at 10 pm. she came from antipolo and asked me to pay for the taxi ride. it was about 300 p. the mall joints are closed and i am wondering where to go. decide to head to remedios circle as i am sure there are some eats there. take taxi and go inside cafe adriatico. i have read about this place online and i knew it prob wouldn't be cheap, but was tired of walking around so went in. we shared some calimari and some pasta. bill was like 650 p. quite a bit more than i prefer to pay to eat. should have found a jolibee or chow king lol. finish eating and go to zzxyz. no cover like usual and ladies received a free drink. to my surprise they were playing music i liked old school rap and hits from 90's and 00's. we arrived a little early maybe 11 pm. was a barely decent crowd but a lot more people streamed in over the next hour and a half. was kind of wanting to be solo to chat up some of these girls. a lot of these girls seem to be on the catch / hunt. not sure what the actually ratio is tho. will have to test it out and give it some more thorough observations. me and my girl dance a little bit and have about 3 beers. (100 p each).

at about 1 am i want to go check out exklusiv so we make the walk across and down the street. not many people in here tonight (monday). we have beer and by this time i am ready to bounce her to the hotel. so i say lets go. from her playful touching and flirting at the clubs i knew she was completely dtf. get back to hotel and zero resistance. not only did this girl have a great perky rack but she had the smallest tightest box i have ever seen. if this girl had a little bit more ass her body would be a 9. the girl in the video from my last trip in feb had nicer tits but she wasnt as tight. i plan to have her over one more time before i leave manila. going to attempt to get some pics. told her i had to go to batangas this morning and sent her on her way with 500 p taxi money.

some random notes.

i am spending about 2,500-3,000 p a day. a bit more than i would like. i need to cut this down to 1,000-2,000 p. mall food / restaurants / local pinoy fast food is costing me about 150-300 p a meal.

malate has a shit ton of homeless. this doesn't bother me, but it is making me think twice about bringing girls there. i am thinking i need to find a new date / clubbing spot. problem with that is all the other options are going to be a lot more expensive with large covers and higher drink prices. i need to get to asking some locals for cheap lively spots in makati.

so far i think zzxyz has the best pick up potential in malate. will probably be my main solo hunting spot.

gohotel otis hasnt stopped me with a girl on both nights. only thing i dislike is having to walk right by the front desk with 2 girls and a guy with my date or pick up. i swear they are going to think i am some man working girl and fucking hookers.

well bought to go walking around malate and look for a basketball court to get my sweat on. i might take tonight off.

man, i got to get better at picking targets in malate. me and all the guys went to zzxyz in malate and i got no where with about 5 opens. i've come to the conclusion this place is solely a korean freelance club. maybe i was picking too hot of girls, i don't know, but what ever it was i need to adjust it. i think for manila setting up night dates is the way to go.

got to give props to jackcheasnut. he sees and reacts. a bit different to my more calculating indecisive style. only one to leave with a girl although i am pretty sure she is a pro. but he might could have shored.

funny note, i left friheten at exklusiv to fuck around at mbc. as i am leaving a mamasan approaches me with this cute 17 yr old looking girl. i tell them i am gay but they follow me down the street. eventually the mamasan tells me just her her 100 p and for me to take the girl to be my gf or something. at this point i'm like fuck 100 p? i ask to see her i'd and she says she doesn't have it. for 100 p this girl was cute and had a nice round ass. my mind was battling my conscious lol. in the end i was like naw i can't do this.

i got a date set up for friday night. girl has a great body. will see what happens.

just had one of the best nights of my life. so last night i am still sick debating whether or not to go out. i have to meet up with some girls the next night so i decide fuck it, i'm going out solo tonight to try and redeem myself from the other night where i caught an l. so, head out to zzxyz and its mad early. i finish my beer and head to exklusiv. get a beer and post up at a table. see this big group of sexy girls on the other side of the dance floor and decide to position myself at the adjuring table. i get over there and this what looks like a filipino dude comes up and is like who are you here with. i tell him i'm solo and he invites me to his table and says its his bday. his table is the one with all the hot girls, he introduces me to everyone. about 5 filipinas and this one japanese chick, all 7+. they are all very friendly and take me in like i am one of them. one of the filipinas has a wicked ass and reminds me of rihanna however the japanese girl is looking sexy and is giving me some iois. i focus my attention on her. we dance and chat. later on in the night i tell her to lets go get something to eat which she agrees to. take her out the club and don't even get food. straight in the taxi back to my hotel. popped a 50 mil of andros in the bathroom right before i left so i fucked her good 3 times! the bad thing is she made these two blood marks on my bed sheets! fuck me, i know i am going to have to pay for that. oh well, it was worth it! got that jap flag and gave malate and all those korean nut huggers the middle finger!

went to qc with some girls last night and friheten joined us later. was at guily's. i like the music they play there ie minimal techno / house. everyone was rocking having a good time. eventually friheten and my girls friend leave. a bit later me and my girl go to leave and somehow her purse is missing. this is the same girl that got her iphone stolen earlier in the week with me. how can someone have such shitty luck! i gave her a good pounding though which took her mind off things until the morning. friheten, e* is a freak! should have heard all the shit she was saying. her apartment keys where in the purse along with her money. i paid a locksmith to open their apartment. finally back at the hotel. time for some much needed rest.

p.s. i saw that hickie you gave the* lol.

just went on a date with a girl in makati. saw the new hobbit movie. she wanted to get drinks after but i told her i was going to take it easy tonight as i have a cold etc. her hands were quite unaesthetic and dirty looking. complete turnoff. however, the reason why i did the date was because she has a phat plump ass. i decided to pass though. going to head to malate and see what i can stir up. last time i went solo i got the jap girl. need some more good juju.

came across an area called mendiola last night on my way to pasig. place is known as university circle. fuck load of unis and girls walking everywhere.

me and a girl went to tiendesitas in pasig / ortegas. nice large open are place with live music. this girl is quite conservative and reserved and has very protective brothers and a mother. so i didn't attempt to get her back to the hotel.

she was the first girl i went on a date with from internet game that i didn't fuck.

been taking it easy this week. going to see about getting a date for tonight clubbing. truth be told i am over this traffic and i'm ready to get to cebu.

i am so over this mother fucking hotel and it's forsaken slow ass internet!

i can't fucking do shit online! can't even load facebook 50% of the time. fucking needing to message girls and get numbers for tonight and hell no!

damnit!

on another note, i am pretty much done with manila, got a few more nights left. going to do 1 or 2 new dates and 1 or 2 repeats. so i am going to go ahead and do my final words or thoughts.

i want to say i'd skip manila but it is so large that i need to not think in a vacuum. to do manila you need to do your homework and do it right.

the traffic here is so terrible you must have all types of venues in walking distance or a very short cab ride away. and by all venues you are going to need.

1) mall.

2) live music venue.

3) dance club.

i've never really thought about the live venue part but its important as some girls are not going to be the "clubbing" type. so you will need a night spot to bring them to and drink and run normal attraction game.

as for the areas of manila i think the best place to stay would be quezon city. this place has a ton of venues, traffic is not as bad, and many girls (of which you can specifically search online), not many foreigners, etc.

the only other options i would consider would be makati and the fort. and honestly i would not do the fort unless you looked like brad pitt, very good game, and a large bank roll. makati is kind of a middle ground. i can't recommend malate as the p4 p scene is just too great and on top of that the korean influence / preference is very strong. you can get ons but it either takes 1) luck or 2) relentless opening. bringing girls here is problematic as well as its the redlight area and tons of trash and homeless people. this doesn't bother me, but can maybe put girls off from meeting there.

another thing, set your dates up a day in advanced. many girls work at night at call centers or have other stuff going on or live at home with parents and have problems going out late. i've been having some issues getting dates for night trying to set things up last minute. granted my shit internet has probably affected that considerably.

i am kicking myself for not including davao on my itinerary. foreigner appeal is not as high as i'd like in manila and cebu will be no different. speaking from a pure nightlife perspective as online is still gold.

cebu on tuesday.

rushing to find a date for tonight. this girl messaged me.

she is 4'11 and weighs 97 pounds. seems like she is dtf with a decent rack.

only seen this picture. made me call here and put me on the spot so i was like ok meet me blah blah.

never met a girl without seeing other pictures. i am a bit nervous lol felt like i rushed this date selection.

ok i got an issue.

i just called the girl and asked where she was at and she tell me she is on the way to malate with her stepdad. and that isn't the worst of it, she asks her stepdad where they are going and he says amazoniz! if you don't know amazonia is a freelance bar! what the fuck is going on here?

that freaks me out! what fucking stepdad takes his stepdaughter to a hooker bar in the red light district?

i am thinking i need to get another girls number to call incase. i mean only option i can see is getting her out of their and taking her alone to another club while her dad chats up some hookers.

i can't even believe i am considering meeting her with her stepdad in these circumstances. maybe he will hook me up with her?

my mind is blown right now.

appears my reporting stopped for manila here and the next post was a cebu update. funny note from the above girl i met, she looked very trashy and her stepdad was not her real stepdad. just what she called him for whatever reason. i made up some lie about my friend locking himself out of our apartment and that i needed to run home real quick to let him in.

anyways, all my days were pretty much the same.

sleep in late, get lunch at the mall. watch tv or a movie online and other random bullshit to kill time until about 10 ish. set up a date from online for the girl to meet me at robinsons malate. take a trike to malate. (i tried to alternate one night having a date and another night going out solo which probably came out something like 60/40 date / solo). hit up robinsons for dinner then walk to mbc. have a few beers, play a game of pool, shoot the breeze with some of the freelancers and waitresses. around 12 am head to one of the clubs in malate, makati, or qc. did most my dates in malate as it was close to my hotel. would usually meet them at robinsons and take them to zzxyz or exklusiv then back to my hotel.

some final thoughts on manila.

would not recommend staying in paco and esp at gohotel otis. internet was horrible. traffic was pretty shitty as well. on my next visit i will rent an apartment off airbnb in makati.

plan your dates a day or two in advance. i had a slight issue with setting up dates with girls (the best of my crop) on quick notice. my dumb ass would wait until 12 pm - 10 pm until i sent them a message on fb to meet me that night. also, need to go ahead and get the girls phone numbers asap. some girls don't check facebook 24/7 and or delete their account etc etc.

to be honest i much prefer cebu as a city. only problem there is just how small it feels and having your cover blown.

zzxyz is not the best club for a young white guy looking for free poon. well, the poon is not going to fall in your lap. i found girls there to all be primarily hunting koreans and japs. which sucks because this place is very lively with some nice lookers. come here you better be prepared to approach many girls until you find one that bites. i only made a handful of approaches and that was not nearly enough.

exklusiv is a great club. mostly locals with a solid mix of normal girls and semi pros. there was a handful of foreigners in there but nothing too bad.

quezon city is absolutely great. only problem is it is alittle out of the way. tons of cute young girls. hardly zero foreigners. my main club excess closed down recently so i will have to find another haunt to frequent.

Psychman
07-29-14, 01:33
CALL PRO, great report.

You are most certainly welcome here. I was a PUA in my 20's and early 30's, and now that I am in my forties, I have ten years of P4 P under my belt. I am also married now, so don't have time or energy for the research, set up, and communication demands of a PUA. Besides, I am getting old and lazy.

Still, I like to go out and score at least one or two each trip, just to make sure that, pushing 50, I still can.

Nice to read about your adventures.

CaliPro
07-29-14, 01:55
CALL PRO, great report.

You are most certainly welcome here. I was a PUA in my 20's and early 30's, and now that I am in my forties, I have ten years of P4 P under my belt. I am also married now, so don't have time or energy for the research, set up, and communication demands of a PUA. Besides, I am getting old and lazy.

Still, I like to go out and score at least one or two each trip, just to make sure that, pushing 50, I still can.

Nice to read about your adventures.Thanks man,

Tbt I do not consider myself a PUA. Far from it. Zero skill required to pickup girls in the Philippines. Just have a beating heart and you are good to go! It is not the easiest country in the world to get laid for nothing.

Wicked Roger
07-30-14, 01:49
CALL PRO, great report.

You are most certainly welcome here. I was a PUA in my 20's and early 30's, and now that I am in my forties, I have ten years of P4 P under my belt. I am also married now, so don't have time or energy for the research, set up, and communication demands of a PUA. Besides, I am getting old and lazy.

Still, I like to go out and score at least one or two each trip, just to make sure that, pushing 50, I still can.

Nice to read about your adventures.Psychman (and Satyr who did the ROD).

Read this FR.

Posted in the Cebu forum recently (but was for January this year). Pip J replied pointing out a few non hero type activities that he felt were not pleasant and very unsafe.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1601301&viewfull=1#post1601301.

If shagging girls with a STD is what you call cool then you need to look at yourself. I don't know any guy on this forum who has boasted about having white discharge, using toilet paper on his dick to try and stop the discharge, then shagging girls all in the same FR (read the link as it is all stated there). Maybe you do?

I would read what PJ says as he asks CP for a list of names etc and non nude pics in case these girls are infected. Sensible - as other may also meet these girls and may then have issues or worse.

FYI. When PJ calls CP "Dash" - it is CPs handle on the other site from where he cut and paste the FRs for ISG.

So hopefully you don't do what CP does as am sure a few guys on the board would find that a tad naughty.

Psychman
07-30-14, 22:33
Psychman (and Satyr who did the ROD).

Read this FR.

Posted in the Cebu forum recently (but was for January this year). Pip J replied pointing out a few non hero type activities that he felt were not pleasant and very unsafe.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1601301&viewfull=1#post1601301.

If shagging girls with a STD is what you call cool then you need to look at yourself. I don't know any guy on this forum who has boasted about having white discharge, using toilet paper on his dick to try and stop the discharge, then shagging girls all in the same FR (read the link as it is all stated there). Maybe you do?

I would read what PJ says as he asks CP for a list of names etc and non nude pics in case these girls are infected. Sensible - as other may also meet these girls and may then have issues or worse.

FYI. When PJ calls CP "Dash" - it is CPs handle on the other site from where he cut and paste the FRs for ISG.

So hopefully you don't do what CP does as am sure a few guys on the board would find that a tad naughty.My response to him had nothing to do with past posts, and has nothing to do with who he fucks and what protection he uses. I was merely saying I am glad we get trip reports that are a bit out of the mongering box. If I was to critique the safely and health habits of most mongers here (I. E. Not using condoms for penetration, walking around late at night after 10 beers, alcoholic drinking, the disgusting unhealthy food they eat and their lack of exercise), than I would hardly be able to post about anything else.

So, save your warnings- they are not needed- I am actually a lot more health and safety conscious than most. Yet, I think you were actually trying to make a point and roping me into it.

Dg8787
07-31-14, 02:36
My response to him had nothing to do with past posts, and has nothing to do with who he fucks and what protection he uses. I was merely saying I am glad we get trip reports that are a bit out of the mongering box. If I was to critique the safely and health habits of most mongers here (I. E. Not using condoms for penetration, walking around late at night after 10 beers, alcoholic drinking, the disgusting unhealthy food they eat and their lack of exercise), than I would hardly be able to post about anything else.

So, save your warnings- they are not needed- I am actually a lot more health and safety conscious than most. Yet, I think you were actually trying to make a point and roping me into it.I like to know who the dripster fucks, when and where so I don't follow into the same hole.

Amavida
07-31-14, 02:57
I like to know who the dripster fucks, when and where so I don't follow into the same hole.Agreed. Deliberately infecting partners is loathe some.

AV.

CaliPro
07-31-14, 05:26
Dg8,

I hope you don't think only the girls I fucked have STDs. You can pretty much bet a LARGE number of Western groupies, bar girls, etc all had, have, or will catch an STD due to Asians lack of using / forcing guys to use protection. You need to wrap up with pretty much any girl that is putting out quick unless you have had her tested.

Amavido,

I never deliberately infected partners. The moment I learned I had an STD I went and got medicine and didn't fuck another girl without rubber the entire trip.

Amavida
07-31-14, 10:28
Note* This is pulled off another forum I am active on. So some names and terminology might not be familiar to you. Apologies in advance. It started out fairly detailed but then I got lazy (my routine remained fairly consistent and my internet sucked) Anyways maybe some of you might find it entertaining. I was in Manila for about 16 nights before heading to Cebu.
Thanks for copy & pasting something posted on some other forum. I'm touched.

I tried really hard to force myself to read through all of this but it comes across as a whole lot of fail as far as I am concerned.

Let's see, you have no money, no manners & very clue as to what you are on about & spent much of your time alone. Sounds exactly like the Filipino guy's the women here are trying to get away from when they agree to a guy from another country.

Trying to put yourself forward as some kind of legend PUA who is going to start a blog of tip's etc is just laughable.

AV.

CaliPro
07-31-14, 13:28
Thanks for copy & pasting something posted on some other forum. I'm touched.

I tried really hard to force myself to read through all of this but it comes across as a whole lot of fail as far as I am concerned.

Let's see, you have no money, no manners & very clue as to what you are on about & spent much of your time alone. Sounds exactly like the Filipino guy's the women here are trying to get away from when they agree to a guy from another country.

Trying to put yourself forward as some kind of legend PUA who is going to start a blog of tip's etc is just laughable.

AV.I am glad you are touched.

Fail? LMAO Just being in the Philippines (traveling) is a win as far as I am concerned. That is not even mentioning fucking tons of girls all for nothing more than some beers, a movie, or a cheap mall lunch.

No money? Traveled for 2 months straight (4 different countries) staying in hotels, eating out every meal, partying every night, taking trips to islands with girls, etc etc. Tbt, I just started back work this past month. Took a 6 month vacation / break from work. But yea I had no money.

Legend PUA? Haha Banging girls in the 3rd world takes nothing more than a beating heart. That is my tip.

All joking aside, you come across as a petty hater. I'll pray for you.

X Man
07-31-14, 13:40
CaliPro doesn't have the most eloquent writing style, but I don think he deserves this kind of criticism. He warned readers in the intro that it would be a rather ragged, half-assed diary which was originally for a different audience. I appreciate his honesty and I can relate to the things he experienced. Thank you CaliPro.

AV, I appreciate your earlier explanation of cell phone technology and your canny ability to get freebies in AC, but how about a proper review yourself. You are apparently in AC. Hotel? Restaurant? Bar? Photos? X Man.


Thanks for copy & pasting something posted on some other forum. I'm touched.

I tried really hard to force myself to read through all of this but it comes across as a whole lot of fail as far as I am concerned.

Let's see, you have no money, no manners & very clue as to what you are on about & spent much of your time alone. Sounds exactly like the Filipino guy's the women here are trying to get away from when they agree to a guy from another country.

Trying to put yourself forward as some kind of legend PUA who is going to start a blog of tip's etc is just laughable.

AV.

Amavida
07-31-14, 15:17
CaliPro doesn't have the most eloquent writing style, but I don think he deserves this kind of criticism. He warned readers in the intro that it would be a rather ragged, half-assed diary which was originally for a different audience. I appreciate his honesty and I can relate to the things he experienced. Thank you CaliPro.

AV, I appreciate your earlier explanation of cell phone technology and your canny ability to get freebies in AC, but how about a proper review yourself. You are apparently in AC. Hotel? Restaurant? Bar? Photos? X Man.Yeah well we disagree on CP's FR's ok? And may I ask what constitutes a 'proper review' in your esteemed opinion? I live here in a very nice condo but occasionaly use hotels for convenience. I would have thought I had posted an embarrassing amount of info about my misadventures lately. In any event don't expect forensic detail but feel free to ask for details, I may be able to provide details.

Cheers X!

AV

X Man
07-31-14, 16:50
I think I said that I appreciated your womanizing posts, so no need to get sarcastic. I don't have an "esteemed opinion". Anyone who has been to AC already knows that getting a nice vage attached to your equipment is about as common in AC as seeing a drunk tattooed obnoxious Australian tottering down the lane with his favorite flip flops.

Jokes aside, I'll leave it up to AV to share information about hotels, restaurants, bars. AV's conquest and cell phone info are certainly valuable and / or interesting. And if I might add some sarcasm myself, I'm really excited to hear that AV ventured way out into the Perimeter badlands and discovered PonyTail. Holy cow. Did you take a trike or a jeepney to get out to that remote location? Personally, I'm mesmerized by the skinny gal who runs the pool table at PT. X.


Yeah well we disagree on CP's FR's ok? And may I ask what constitutes a 'proper review' in your esteemed opinion? I live here in a very nice condo but occasionaly use hotels for convenience. I would have thought I had posted an embarrassing amount of info about my misadventures lately. In any event don't expect forensic detail but feel free to ask for details, I may be able to provide details.

Cheers X!

AV

FreebieFan
08-01-14, 02:26
Thanks for copy & pasting something posted on some other forum. I'm touched.

I tried really hard to force myself to read through all of this but it comes across as a whole lot of fail as far as I am concerned.

Let's see, you have no money, no manners & very clue as to what you are on about & spent much of your time alone. Sounds exactly like the Filipino guy's the women here are trying to get away from when they agree to a guy from another country.

Trying to put yourself forward as some kind of legend PUA who is going to start a blog of tip's etc is just laughable
AV.Agree with every word you state. His story about the toilet tissue wrapped around the leaky todger will go down in the ISG annals as being that of a a dangerously inept amateur at play.

Ikksman
08-01-14, 02:30
Agree with every word you state. His story about the toilet tissue wrapped around the leaky todger will go down in the ISG annals as being that of a a dangerously inept amateur at play.And three days with a dripping dick before he decides to self-diagnose (during which time he was presumably banging other SYTs)! Incredible!

Hutsori
08-01-14, 02:41
And three days with a dripping dick before he decides to self-diagnose (during which time he was presumably banging other SYTs)! Incredible!Is self-diagnosis the right diagnosis? And there are STIs that are asymptomatic. Trust me; I know. One could correctly determine one STI and miss another one. Or two.

Red Kilt
08-01-14, 03:22
There have been 100's of man-hours spent writing about Calipro and his drippy dick but nothing that has been written here is going to change his or anyone else's behaviour about this. I guess it allows guys to vent about CP but he probably has the last laugh as he is not the one wasting time criticizing him.

What do we learn from this example of dripping dicks?

Simply that there are at any given time likely to be a proportion of the mongering population roaming around AC and other mongering areas who are carrying some dreaded STI in various stages of incubation and development. Most of these guys will not be on ISG or any other website.

Many probably don't know if they are carrying anything or what it is (are asymptomatic).

Some will know and not care about it and will keep on at their hobby, despite the disgust expressed here by posters.

The moral for me would be to always cover up when I am in a specifically designated zone of prostitution. Nobody knows where ANY girl has been in the week leading up to your visit, not whether she has been with a trike driver, another foreigner or, more worryingly, a pinoy seafarer just back from his travels to all the world's fleshpots with a pocket full of cash to throw around while it lasts. This latter guy could have ANYTHING, and it might well be an exotic strain too (from a port in Africa or PNG for example)

Soapy Smith
08-01-14, 06:17
Anybody with recent experience with money changers in the City of Manila: Are they taking USD50 bills? I've never taken them anything bigger than a 20. Thanks in advance.

Mr Hawaii
08-01-14, 06:58
Anybody with recent experience with money changers in the City of Manila: Are they taking USD50 bills? I've never taken them anything bigger than a 20. Thanks in advance.Yes, they do take $50 USD bills, provided they are like "new". Just returned from Manila in late June. I always take new 100's and 50's and have no problem exchanging them. They might want to offer you a lower rate than what is posted for the 100's, but just go to another place if they try that. They will take 20's, but maybe offer you a lower exchange rate. Always go to a place that posts the exchange rate on a board. That way you don't have to ask what the rate is. Even if it differs by. 1, when you change 100, then the. 1 becomes. 10 whole pesos.

Tercar 66
08-01-14, 12:49
Hi,

I will be visiting Manila soon. Kindly suggest a better place for nightlife, Bars with live Music and Mongering after work. It is Ermita or Pt Burgos. Accordingly I will book a hotel either in Ermita or Makati.

Thanks

VicVeg
08-01-14, 19:18
Hi,

I will be visiting Manila soon. Kindly suggest a better place for nightlife, Bars with live Music and Mongering after work. It is Ermita or Pt Burgos. Accordingly I will book a hotel either in Ermita or Makati.

ThanksErmita is kinda dumpy and dangerous. There are homeless sleeping on the sidewalk everywhere. And all that is there is LA Cafe and Robinson's mall, both of which is lower rent places. There are some ok hotels in the area. And there are hotel buses to Angeles and subic from the swagman and southern cross hotels.

Burgos is good as it is cleaner, and has upper class hotels for an ok price. The Tune Hotel is ok and can be found cheap online. Burgos has alot of open cafes with alot of girls on the street. It is also near Greenbelt 3 mall which has Havana cafe at night with FL's and has movies, restaurants etc.

If I were you, I'd stay on Burgos and hit Ermita for a night, especially if you are to head off to AC, and want to be near the buses.

Slippery
08-01-14, 22:32
Anybody with recent experience with money changers in the City of Manila: Are they taking USD50 bills? I've never taken them anything bigger than a 20. Thanks in advance.Fiddys are fine but be sure to change 2 of them. Exchange rate is less for anything under $100.00.

Big Kahuna
08-02-14, 05:17
Update as of August 1.

Bar Fine.

For the bar: 1950.

Short time: 3 hours, 3,000.

Long time: 5 hours, 5,000.

Was there last night, very slow, no more than 5 - 10 customers per bar. Mostly Japanese. Took a girl for short time which ended staying till 10 am. Only wanted 3 k.

Sammon
08-02-14, 15:46
Hi,

I will be visiting Manila soon. Kindly suggest a better place for nightlife, Bars with live Music and Mongering after work. It is Ermita or Pt Burgos. Accordingly I will book a hotel either in Ermita or Makati.

ThanksSimple answer is ermita is cheap for mongering. Makati can be expensive. If you are looking for 9-10 girls Makati is best.

Hotelwise you can find cheap hotels in both places. In Ermita you can just walk around and scope the freelancer girls. Makati has lots more Ladyboys than ermita.

As for street kids and homeless it is there everywhere in Phi.

Mr Hawaii
08-02-14, 19:34
Hi,

I will be visiting Manila soon. Kindly suggest a better place for nightlife, Bars with live Music and Mongering after work. It is Ermita or Pt Burgos. Accordingly I will book a hotel either in Ermita or Makati.

ThanksLike so many things, you are the one to determine which is best for you, not us. I stayed exclusively in malate for 15+yrs. , then a girl, not a bar girl, suggested we look at the New World hotel in Makati. We both went there to look at rooms, and I stayed there 4 nights my next trip and checked out the Makati scene / bars. Now I stay one week in Makati, one week in malate, with a side trip to Cebu city, of course. When in malate it is a short walk to LA caf, short taxi ride to EDSA, short taxi ride to Harrison's, very short walk to Robinson's, where you can pick up non=pro women in the supermarket if you just talk to them.

In Makati the malls are huge and you will get lost in greenbelt / glorietta if you are alone for the first time. Burgos st. Is always jumping, etc. Try both, each offers their own sorts of delights, which the members here write about at length.

Soapy Smith
08-03-14, 09:35
News reports have it that Delta Airlines began using Terminal 3 on August 1st, and four other international carriers will be moving in over the next month. I've been in and out of 1 and 2 numerous times, but the closest I've been to 3 is some authentic looking film footage in The Bourne Legacy. I've checked the terminal map for layout of the critical elements, but the map doesn't indicate small details like sim card and load vendors in the terminal. If it's like NAIA 1, I would expect them near the money changers, which appear to be near the exit for metered taxis. Anybody been through there lately and note any sim and load vendors? If so, where are they?

Thanks, Skip.

Amavida
08-03-14, 09:46
News reports have it that Delta Airlines began using Terminal 3 on August 1st, and four other international carriers will be moving in over the next month. I've been in and out of 1 and 2 numerous times, but the closest I've been to 3 is some authentic looking film footage in The Bourne Legacy. I've checked the terminal map for layout of the critical elements, but the map doesn't indicate small details like sim card and load vendors in the terminal. If it's like NAIA 1, I would expect them near the money changers, which appear to be near the exit for metered taxis. Anybody been through there lately and note any sim and load vendors? If so, where are they?

Thanks, Skip.No specific load vendors. Some of the coffee shops have load vending machines which are easy to use. Its a bit of a clusterfuck. Near the departure lounge seating as I recall.

Cheers Skip,

AV.

Wicked Roger
08-03-14, 11:04
No specific load vendors. Some of the coffee shops have load vending machines which are easy to use. Its a bit of a clusterfuck. Near the departure lounge seating as I recall.

Cheers Skip,

AV.On exit there are Globe and Smart kiosks in the baggage hall and some also outside. I use T3 a lot and sometime you up my SIMs before I go and get the overpriced taxis.

Jp Slicky
08-03-14, 12:00
Nice flight from Japan on Cebu Pacific, but it was a 2 hour + wait / que for a metered taxi.

Wicked Roger
08-03-14, 12:14
Nice flight from Japan on Cebu Pacific, but it was a 2 hour + wait / que for a metered taxi.A good point JP as I noted in a much earlier FR that unless they did something about the taxis. The scams, the lack of white / yellow. At peak times the 'efficiency' of T3 will be lost on international passengers. Prices will increase for those who don't want to wait 2 hours or who can't / don't want to go to the arrivals area to try and get a cheaper white cab (but even there the queues can be horrible).

Using the domestic airline and arriving at the wrong time of day can be bad enough let alone with lots of other international passengers IMHO but it is something we will suffer as we love the Philippines.

I will pick my flights carefully as I use some of those carriers who now fly to T3. But this could mean I don't hang around Manila as much and just transfer to the domestic flight as no real traffic hassles getting from T1 to T3 anymore.

On the plus side (I hope) the air con (AC) will be better than T1, it is a cleaner airport, but the taxis could be an issue as you rightly pointed out.

Hutsori
08-04-14, 03:30
The scams, the lack of white / yellow. At peak times the 'efficiency' of T3 will be lost on international passengers. Prices will increase for those who don't want to wait 2 hours or who can't / don't want to go to the arrivals area to try and get a cheaper white cab (but even there the queues can be horrible).

Using the domestic airline and arriving at the wrong time of day can be bad enough let alone with lots of other international passengers IMHO but it is something we will suffer as we love the Philippines.
I recall Resorts World (RW), which is across the street from terminal 3, has a shuttle bus that runs to / from the terminals. If the wait for a taxi at NAIA is particularly bad I'd take the shuttle to RW and hail a taxi there. Of the dozen times I've been to RW I've never had more than a few-minute wait for a taxi. Just a thought.

Soapy Smith
08-04-14, 03:41
Thanks H, WR, AV, JP.

Sounds like sim and load will be the least of my worries. I like the idea of RW as an outlet for taxis. I wonder how long it will take the taxi Gods to figure out that traffic has moved from Terminal 1 to 3.

Jp Slicky
08-04-14, 12:35
I tried going up to the departure area to get an incoming taxi, but with the guards at the door there it is a one way check valve and cannot get out to the in coming, Yellow cab must have paid a hefty fee or bribe for the rights to service outbound, arrival passengers be dammed.

Radical Guy
08-04-14, 14:01
I tried going up to the departure area to get an incoming taxi, but with the guards at the door there it is a one way check valve and cannot get out to the in coming, Yellow cab must have paid a hefty fee or bribe for the rights to service outbound, arrival passengers be dammed.Actually, that's not true. One time I dropped my lady off in the departure area to catch her flight back to the provinces, and accompanied her to the check-in counter, and had to walk out to catch another taxi on the upper level. There is one door at the very end where you can go back out, and catch a white meter taxi.

RG.

Fast Eddie 48
08-04-14, 19:52
I tried going up to the departure area to get an incoming taxi, but with the guards at the door there it is a one way check valve and cannot get out to the in coming, Yellow cab must have paid a hefty fee or bribe for the rights to service outbound, arrival passengers be dammed.To JP.

The last time I was at terminal 3 just arrive from Hong Kong I go uo to arrival to get a taxi just drop off customer and all taxi driver asking 600 p to Malate, I think they all work together on this but terminal one is different I can still get taxi driver to just use the meter, so what I did is catch a free shuttle to the Resort world casino across the st have lunch there and get a meter taxi there to Malate.

Fast eddie 48.

Jp Slicky
08-05-14, 12:05
I went up there after looking at the que and there were guards at the only one or two doors you can exit.

Cool Traveler
08-10-14, 14:23
I always thought only Cebu flew in and out of T3, until my ANA (United code share) connecting flight from Tokyo landed there about 4 weeks ago. I had a dating site girl waiting at T1. I assumed it would land at T1, like my United flight from Guam. Both my cell was dead on arrival, so for the first time, I had to ditch a pre-arranged girl. Ended up at Havana.

Checking in at Terminal 3. It is a lot faster and getting into the Terminal 3 is a lot cleaner unlike Terminal 1. You see that huge crowd at T1. And T3 is a lot newer airport. I think T1 handles a lot more OFW's. At the present moment, I have only seen ANA check-in counter apart from the CP counters. There are more coffee shops here at T3 than T1. I have never seen a business class lounge. So, not sure if there is one.

Checking Out of Terminal 3. I like it better because the immigration crew is a lot younger and seem to just stamp and let you off. At T1, the Immigration crew is a lot older, and tend to look you up more closely. None of the horizontal escalators work, so usually a long walk from gate to the immigration point. And almost always, the bags are always out before I get to the carousel. As you walk out, before you go outside, ATM machines to your left. And there are SIM kiosks. I did buy a SIM once, and got ripped off. So, check carefully what you are getting. Read the card they hand over to you.

Taxi's. As you get out, the yellow taxi's are to your right. And yes, always a long wait but not all the time. I never had to wait longer than 20 minutes. I will not comment on the white taxi's as I never use them. If my memory serves me right, metered charge comes to about 170 to 190 pesos to get to Makati.

Location. This is the part I like the best. T3 is closer to Makati. If you use T1, the taxis come all the way around the airport and pass T3, before getting into Makati area. So, you save about 15 to 20 minutes here. This compensates for the taxi wait. The taxi gets on the highway within 5 minutes, and gets off just after about 5 minutes and then surface road in Makati. The ride is only about 20 to 30 minutes to where the Intercon is, depending on traffic in Makati. Always ask for the highway, and it will cost you an extra 20 pesos.

They also have a free shuttle bus that takes you to the Casino hotels. I think every hour. It is right in between the white taxi stand and yellow taxi stand across the way. Ask the security outside, and they will point it out. You do not need to show proof of stay. Just tell them you are going there. I did this twice when I stayed at the Marriott. If you are lugging luggage, use the taxi! If you are going across on a taxi, the drivers will grumble. My next trip, I will try to get a taxi at departure and see if that works. I will report back.

I do not think T3 has enough gates to support all flights coming in from T1. If they do come over to T3, then T3 will turn into a nightmare.

Wicked Roger
08-11-14, 09:20
I always thought only Cebu flew in and out of T3, until my ANA (United code share) connecting flight from Tokyo landed there about 4 weeks ago.

I do not think T3 has enough gates to support all flights coming in from T1. If they do come over to T3, then T3 will turn into a nightmare.PAL also has a few flights at T3 so always best check as I have seen a few guys in your position CT.

T3 taxis I suspect will be worse when the 5 international carriers all land there, business class lounges I am checking as I am told by a fellow ISG friend that Singapore does not and as he flies SQ a lot he is one very unhappy bunny.

I agree with the 'gates' comment and suspect the local carriers will be pushed to parking without an air bridge at times. Already I have noticed Cebu Pacific using gates 134 etc more so that means a bus ride where they try to shove 60 people into a bus fit for 30! Can't see T3 dong that for the international airlines.

But above all this, the main problem is the airports have 1 main runway and congestion in the sky is the norm especially mid afternoon. Is a mess and the equipment is third world IMHO so having a cleaner terminal, etc is nice but if you are circling Manila for 45+ minutes (as I have done!) it really takes the gloss of everything.

Firdau
08-14-14, 23:04
Hey,

I'm in Manila for 2 days and I'd love to get some advice on the best place to find a freelancer. I'm near the Shangri la Plaza (Mandaluyong). I was thinking of heading to QC but not sure. I also read that Edsa IEC is kinda expensive and not good any more. Thoughts?

I went to the Eastwood Citywalk last night. Nothing. Just groups of people having a good time, nothing at the Metro Citywalk near my hotel either.

I'll post a report later if there's something worthy of reporting.

Thanks!

D Cups
08-15-14, 02:55
Hey,

I'm in Manila for 2 days and I'd love to get some advice on the best place to find a freelancer. Hey, read the forum and you will see that LA Cafe in Malate is best for freelancers. Geez.

GoodEnough
08-15-14, 04:34
PAL also has a few flights at T3 so always best check as I have seen a few guys in your position CT.

T3 taxis I suspect will be worse when the 5 international carriers all land there, business class lounges I am checking as I am told by a fellow ISG friend that Singapore does not and as he flies SQ a lot he is one very unhappy bunny.

I agree with the 'gates' comment and suspect the local carriers will be pushed to parking without an air bridge at times. Already I have noticed Cebu Pacific using gates 134 etc more so that means a bus ride where they try to shove 60 people into a bus fit for 30! Can't see T3 dong that for the international airlines.

But above all this, the main problem is the airports have 1 main runway and congestion in the sky is the norm especially mid afternoon. Is a mess and the equipment is third world IMHO so having a cleaner terminal, etc is nice but if you are circling Manila for 45+ minutes (as I have done!) it really takes the gloss of everything.And just think, it only took this country ten years or so to build a terminal that was totally out of date before its doors opened. Delta now uses it, Cathay will use it as of next month, in addition to Cebu Pacific amd some PAL flights. I think other international carriers are also moving over. Of course there aren't sufficient gates, so, consistent with airport practice circa 1965, buses make up the slack. This may also be the only terminal I've ever seen outside Africa that doesn't have an Arrivals / Departure schedule in the main lobby, so if you enter he terminal with a boarding pass for a domestic flight, lots of luck trying to figure out where your gate might be.

WR is correct. Everything about the airport is inadequate, out of date, and fairly shabby. Only one runway can be used at a time, the ground landing equipment was antique ten years ago, and the amenities are a joke. Further, there are no immediate plans, as far as I know, to build anything new. I guess the country will wait for some donor or other to come give them the money to build something, but for the moment, the air travel situation deteriorates year by year. Together with all of the other transport infrastructure.

NAIA is a virtual meme for political incompetence.

GE.

DanGood
08-15-14, 14:44
Hey,

I'm soon in Manila / Makati (still don't know). Can anyone help me to find the pearls that are skinny, tiny but legal. I like them on their 18. So if you can help or let me come with you, it would be fun.

If any local guy want to be my sexguide there, I would appreciate. I'm fully straight, ready for many games like 3 some, parties, gang.

WestCoast1
08-15-14, 14:47
WR is correct. Everything about the airport is inadequate, out of date, and fairly shabby. Only one runway can be used at a time, the ground landing equipment was antique ten years ago, and the amenities are a joke. Further, there are no immediate plans, as far as I know, to build anything new. I guess the country will wait for some donor or other to come give them the money to build something, but for the moment, the air travel situation deteriorates year by year. Together with all of the other transport infrastructure.

NAIA is a virtual meme for political incompetence.

GE.Well put. A few websites with info: http://www.flightstats.com/go/Airport/airportDetails.do?airport=MNL&x=0&y=0 and I loved this:

Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport (airport code MNL) is the main gateway to the Manila Metro Area and all the Philippines islands. Manila Airport has four terminals, 1, 2, and 3, which oversee international travelers, and Domestic Terminal serving local carriers. The airport managed more than 27 million passengers in 2010, which put it in the top 50 for world's busiest airports. Served by 29 airlines, the airport is also a hub for travel throughout Asia. About four miles south of Manila, there is a 2-kilometer taxi ride to the Light Rail Transit line that takes travelers into the city. The Manila Airport Hotel is on-site next to Terminal 1.

Do international travelers grab their luggage and then take the LRT?

And an official site:

http://www.manila-airport.net/

X Man
08-18-14, 01:35
LA Cafe is in Ermita. Just a few blocks north of Malate.


Hey, read the forum and you will see that LA Cafe in Malate is best for freelancers. Geez.

Cool Traveler
08-18-14, 02:40
I think all the airlines are running away from T1 because of the renovation. According to a senior airport personnel I talked to, when I was last there at T1. The airport received a 1.5 Billion peso from the Govt. To renovate. And his follow up comment - "but non one at the airport knows what they are building or renovating. It is a mystery. "


Well put. A few websites with info: http://www.flightstats.com/go/Airport/airportDetails.do?airport=MNL&x=0&y=0 and I loved this:

Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport (airport code MNL) is the main gateway to the Manila Metro Area and all the Philippines islands. Manila Airport has four terminals, 1, 2, and 3, which oversee international travelers, and Domestic Terminal serving local carriers. The airport managed more than 27 million passengers in 2010, which put it in the top 50 for world's busiest airports. Served by 29 airlines, the airport is also a hub for travel throughout Asia. About four miles south of Manila, there is a 2-kilometer taxi ride to the Light Rail Transit line that takes travelers into the city. The Manila Airport Hotel is on-site next to Terminal 1.

Do international travelers grab their luggage and then take the LRT?

And an official site:

http://www.manila-airport.net/

KongKing
08-18-14, 02:41
NAIA is a virtual meme for political incompetence. This may also be the only terminal I've ever seen outside Africa that doesn't have an Arrivals / Departure schedule in the main lobby True GE. We also have operational NAIA and Cebu Pacific incompetence. I recently flew into Terminal 3 on Cebu Pacific from Thailand. We rolled up to gate 111 (I think it was) and stopped 10 metres short of the air-bridge. Stairs were rolled up and we descended to the tarmac only to climb the side steps to the inoperative air-bridge which had the welcoming sign "sorry for the inconvenience" displayed. Then the long walk to immigration because the horizontal conveyor belt also had the "sorry for the inconvenience" sign up. I have never seen it operative. It is a brand new (but 10 year old) terminal and you would hope sooner or later we would have a fully operational terminal. And yes GE who would think an electronic arrivals-departures board would be an essential requirement at an international airport. Maybe one day.

FreebieFan
08-18-14, 03:46
True GE. We also have operational NAIA and Cebu Pacific incompetence. I recently flew into Terminal 3 on Cebu Pacific from Thailand. We rolled up to gate 111 (I think it was) and stopped 10 metres short of the air-bridge. Stairs were rolled up and we descended to the tarmac only to climb the side steps to the inoperative air-bridge which had the welcoming sign "sorry for the inconvenience" displayed. .Some of this airbridge stuff is a cost issue. Costs more to park a plane at the air bridge, than to have people stop, go down stairs then up again.

Sadly the children who run CP (thanks Lance!) assume no one will notice, or not care. Filipinos are great at doing what they are told with nary a complaint.

Wicked Roger
08-18-14, 14:57
It is a brand new (but 10 year old) terminal and you would hope sooner or later we would have a fully operational terminal. And yes GE who would think an electronic arrivals-departures board would be an essential requirement at an international airport. Maybe one day.Have recently been through KLIA2 the new low cost carrier terminal in KL. Despite the extremely long walks to the passport / immigration area it makes NAIA T1 look like something from the 1930's and has all the mod cons including electronic sign boards, plenty of baggage carousels etc It is how T3 should be.

Was a lovely experience. Then you go to NAIA T1 and get mightily disappointed in life LOL.

Fast Eddie 48
08-18-14, 21:54
Have recently been through KLIA2 the new low cost carrier terminal in KL. Despite the extremely long walks to the passport / immigration area it makes NAIA T1 look like something from the 1930's and has all the mod cons including electronic sign boards, plenty of baggage carousels etc It is how T3 should be.

Was a lovely experience. Then you go to NAIA T1 and get mightily disappointed in life LOL.To WG.

I didn't know the new KL LLC terminal is finally open after so many delay it must of just open, thank for the warning I have a Air Asia flight out of KL next month but I travel light should be ok.

Fast eddie 48.

Slippery
08-18-14, 23:49
LA Cafe is in Ermita. Just a few blocks north of Malate.Corner of Del Pilar and Salas. Definitely Ermita.

Boola Fiji
08-20-14, 18:57
T3 taxis I suspect will be worse when the 5 international carriers all land there, business class lounges I am checking as I am told by a fellow ISG friend that Singapore does not and as he flies SQ a lot he is one very unhappy bunny.Just saw a newsflash on the Singapore airlines website. They are moving to T3 effective Sep 1.

Boola Fiji
08-20-14, 19:02
I tried going up to the departure area to get an incoming taxi, but with the guards at the door there it is a one way check valve and cannot get out to the in coming, Yellow cab must have paid a hefty fee or bribe for the rights to service outbound, arrival passengers be dammed.The guards don't really check. I have always breezed right past them and out onto the departures taxi ramp. They only check folks getting *into* the airport. Take the lifts at the left end of the arrivals floor (as you exits customs) and go to floor 2.

Robbaf
08-21-14, 01:56
I tried going up to the departure area to get an incoming taxi, but with the guards at the door there it is a one way check valve and cannot get out to the in coming, Yellow cab must have paid a hefty fee or bribe for the rights to service outbound, arrival passengers be dammed.The exits are on the far right end of the departure level. The last couple of door are for departing friends / family who went to the airport to say bye.

With the increased airlines utilizing T3 they will have to go to only ticketed passengers allowed to enter like they do in T1 and 2.

FreebieFan
08-21-14, 02:48
The exits are on the far right end of the departure level. The last couple of door are for departing friends / family who went to the airport to say bye.

With the increased airlines utilizing T3 they will have to go to only ticketed passengers allowed to enter like they do in T1 and 2.And then we have the fun and games of getting past security, who sometimes arent sure of what there job is.

"Sorrr, show me your ticket.

" Its on my tablet".

" Sorr, I need to see your ticket.

" As I said its on my tablet and its just a QR code".

" Sorr show me your ticket.

Or for those in a really prickly mood (too much sex, to much beer and too little sleep will often create that mood ").

" Sorr, show me your passport".

" Are you an immigration official, or an official member of the police?

" No Sir, just security.

" Then I can't show you my passport.

" OK Sorr, please proceed ". LOL.

GoodEnough
08-21-14, 04:53
I'm not sure why getting transportation from the airport seems tp be a major hassle. Yesterday, just before exiting terminal 3, I turned on my Uber app and had a very nice Mitsubishi Montero with driver, pick me up within a few minutes. The total cost of getting to my hotel in Makati was Php165 or so. The whole process was efficient, pleasant and prompt. To an increasing extent, Uber is becoming my preferred means of getting around Manila.

GE.

CallSign Papa
08-22-14, 09:31
I came in through T1 late in the evening and straight into a taxi, and left via T3, which was quiet, and (unbelievably) efficient.

Wander Luster
08-23-14, 06:31
And just think, it only took this country ten years or so to build a terminal that was totally out of date before its doors opened. Delta now uses it, Cathay will use it as of next month, in addition to Cebu Pacific amd some PAL flights. I think other international carriers are also moving over. Of course there aren't sufficient gates, so, consistent with airport practice circa 1965, buses make up the slack. This may also be the only terminal I've ever seen outside Africa that doesn't have an Arrivals / Departure schedule in the main lobby, so if you enter he terminal with a boarding pass for a domestic flight, lots of luck trying to figure out where your gate might be.

WR is correct. Everything about the airport is inadequate, out of date, and fairly shabby. Only one runway can be used at a time, the ground landing equipment was antique ten years ago, and the amenities are a joke. Further, there are no immediate plans, as far as I know, to build anything new. I guess the country will wait for some donor or other to come give them the money to build something, but for the moment, the air travel situation deteriorates year by year. Together with all of the other transport infrastructure.

NAIA is a virtual meme for political incompetence.

GE.GF, I've been reading your posts since about 2006. Your post count well over 2 k beats my twitter 140 character posts since 2008. I love that your writing is better than ever. Fantastic commentary here. I love black humor, and maybe that's why the beauty of the PH woman sits well alongside the lowest common denominator that we see so much in the PH, especially at the creepy / scary Manila airport.

WL.

Wicked Roger
08-23-14, 08:04
I came in through T1 late in the evening and straight into a taxi, and left via T3, which was quiet, and (unbelievably) efficient.Pigs must be flying and the moon must blue CSP as that is rare. Yes I have had the same but as I fly through booth terminals regularly I am fully aware of the horrible list of issues any traveler faces. In the press today it is said the upgrade to the public toilets will be complete by Christmas! Question I why was there no recurring maintenance and why did it take some poor Chinese tourist to be bitten by an inspector's pet dog to get anything done. Answer is total incompetence by the airport management who are regularly criticized by the netziens / bloggers but as the head in charge is one of a famous family no one (not even the President0 will terminate him.

Am happy you had a great experience but 99% of my travels through T1 especially are dire, depressing and sweaty now as the air cons still have to be fitted!

GE is another very regular traveler and he and I share the same views on this. Read his FRs as a seasoned traveler I rank T1 as the lowest of the low (I don't count some African airports as they don't pretend to be first rate or be a developed country).

Soapy Smith
08-24-14, 09:02
Or for those in a really prickly mood (too much sex, to much beer and too little sleep will often create that mood ").

" Sorr, show me your passport".

" Are you an immigration official, or an official member of the police?

" No Sir, just security.

" Then I can't show you my passport.

" OK Sorr, please proceed ". LOL.Obiwon: "These aren't the droids you're looking for. ".

Evil Empire Security Police: "These aren't the droids we're looking for. ".

Soapy Smith
08-24-14, 10:38
I have attached a screen capture of the Terminal 3 map provided on their website. It is generally accurate, except that it does not show the location of immigration booths. But signage is generally improved over Terminal 1, so nobody should have a problem finding them. Whereas in T1 passengers clear immigration before picking up luggage, this is reversed at T3.

The cell phone kiosks are not shown on the map, but they are in the outer layer where the information booth and money changers are shown. All of these were open when I arrived at 10 pm.

I came and went via Delta and also took a domestic flight to and from Tacloban via PAL in between, also through T3. I was one of the first off the Delta flight, cleared immigration, luggage, and customs quickly, and was climbing into a yellow metered cab within about 20 minutes of arrival. There was no wait for a yellow cab, although those getting off the plane later may have experienced some wait. Returning from Tacloban at 6 pm was a different story. About an hour long line for yellow cabs. Yellow cab fare to my hotel (near UN Avenue and Taft in Ermita) was about 330 php both times, plus 20 php (which the passenger pays) through a toll gate getting onto the Southern Expressway. I was quoted a price for coupon taxi of 850 php for the same destination and there would not have been any wait. I had a coupon quote of 650 for a sedan and 800 for a small van to Makati, so presumably yellow cab is a little less than 300. Six months earlier I paid 330 for a yellow cab to near the same area in Ermita from T1, but without a toll charge. So I think Ermita and Malate may not be much cheaper from T3, but Makati would seem to be closer from T3.

My flight to Tacloban was in a Dash-8 turboprop, which is fairly short takeoff and landing. We took off on a southeast heading (13) on the shorter cross runway, thus essentially crossing the path of the longer SW-NE runway. It was 5 am, so presumably not much conflicting traffic. Return flight on an A320 landed on a northeast heading on the longer runway. While waiting for my Delta departure I saw a smaller jet take off on a northwest heading on the shorter cross runway. So the shorter cross runway is apparently being used for some STOL planes.

Driver of the white metered cab that brought me to the airport when I left described hanging out on the departure level looking for fares who have ridden up from the arrival level. But he said security guards have caught on and do not let them stick around without paying a bribe of at least 20 php. It's still better than driving away empty.

I believe there is still room for expansion at T3. Looking at it via Google Earth there appear to be 18 skybridges for arrival gates at T3, which is more than at T1. There are also about eight apron parking spaces at the northwest end of T3. My PAL flights, both coming and going, used this apron area, with a bus transporting us between terminal and plane. The departure counters at T3 also seem to be much more efficiently laid out, and departure gate seating seems to be larger. Now if the Philippine government can only improve their security checkpoint so that the airlines don't have to add an additional layer of security check.

Econo Tech
08-24-14, 15:12
I'm not sure why getting transportation from the airport seems tp be a major hassle. Yesterday, just before exiting terminal 3, I turned on my Uber app and had a very nice Mitsubishi Montero with driver, pick me up within a few minutes. The total cost of getting to my hotel in Makati was Php165 or so. The whole process was efficient, pleasant and prompt. To an increasing extent, Uber is becoming my preferred means of getting around Manila.

GE.Really 165 by a Montero?

Sounds like steal and cheaper than Grab Taxi app.

BTW, Turbo props, antique planes flying in PH, and A319/320's to nearby destinations use the shorter runway.

319/320 to distant places like KL / SG still have to use the longer runway.

Member #4387
08-24-14, 15:26
My flight to Tacloban was in a Dash-8 turboprop, which is fairly short takeoff and landing. We took off on a southeast heading (13) on the shorter cross runway, thus essentially crossing the path of the longer SW-NE runway. It was 5 am, so presumably not much conflicting traffic. Return flight on an A320 landed on a northeast heading on the longer runway. While waiting for my Delta departure I saw a smaller jet take off on a northwest heading on the shorter cross runway. So the shorter cross runway is apparently being used for some STOL planes.They use mentioned runway not only for STOL aircrafts SK. A couple of times heading for BKK in Cebu Pacific's A320 we have used this runway for take off. I guess windcondition and aircrafts payload comes to play here. The BKK flights in mention was not crowded at all so probably not a to heavy aircraft.

Soapy Smith
08-24-14, 20:21
BTW, Turbo props, antique planes flying in PH, and A319/320's to nearby destinations use the shorter runway.

319/320 to distant places like KL / SG still have to use the longer runway.My incoming Delta flight (about 2 1/2 weeks ago) got diverted back to Japan when we were within 35 minutes of NAIA. Pilot announced that a plane had skidded off a runway or taxiway and was blocking the movement of other planes. Bummer. We spent another day at the airport in Nagoya and got packed into the next night's flight. After I arrived I read in the paper that the plane in question was Saudi, and that smaller planes "such as A320's" were allowed to land, while larger planes were diverted. Half a dozen or so landed at Angeles and a couple more at Taipei. Our pilot claimed the various airports could not accommodate any additional diverted planes. Really? Angeles, with all its runways and taxiways, couldn't find room for another 747? Methinks some personal considerations on the part of the flight crew came into play.

(On the other hand, packing too many diverted planes onto the taxiways of a fog-shrouded airport in the Canary Islands contributed to the worst air disaster in history a few decades ago.)

At the time I was wondering how NAIA was able to land A320's but not bigger planes. The cross runway now seems like a logical explanation.

CallSign Papa
08-25-14, 04:52
Am happy you had a great experience but 99% of my travels through T1 especially are dire, depressing and sweaty now as the air cons still have to be fitted!
I think arriving late at night contributed to my velocitous exit, was as quiet as I've ever seen it (and hand luggage only is definitely the way forward), it was 25 minutes from stepping off the plan to being in taxi. To then get an equally quiet T3 on a Sunday afternoon really did feel like Christmas come early (and it wasn't the only time I came early that week).

Pinaypounder
08-25-14, 19:08
And then we have the fun and games of getting past security, who sometimes arent sure of what there job is.

"Sorrr, show me your ticket.

" Its on my tablet".

" Sorr, I need to see your ticket.

" As I said its on my tablet and its just a QR code".

" Sorr show me your ticket.

Or for those in a really prickly mood (too much sex, to much beer and too little sleep will often create that mood ").

" Sorr, show me your passport".

" Are you an immigration official, or an official member of the police?

" No Sir, just security.

" Then I can't show you my passport.

" OK Sorr, please proceed ". LOL.This refrain shows the true nature of the Phils. Unless they are packing a gun I ignore most of them and even better I have a great foriegner FUCK OFF FACE.

I am typically polite and ask nicely but I don't accept the level of ineptitude that exist in the Philippines.

It is not a place for the rookie traveller that is for sure.

PP.

Econo Tech
08-26-14, 06:11
My incoming Delta flight (about 2 1/2 weeks ago) got diverted back to Japan when we were within 35 minutes of NAIA. Pilot announced that a plane had skidded off a runway or taxiway and was blocking the movement of other planes. Bummer. We spent another day at the airport in Nagoya and got packed into the next night's flight. After I arrived I read in the paper that the plane in question was Saudi, and that smaller planes "such as A320's" were allowed to land, while larger planes were diverted. Half a dozen or so landed at Angeles and a couple more at Taipei. Our pilot claimed the various airports could not accommodate any additional diverted planes. Really? Angeles, with all its runways and taxiways, couldn't find room for another 747? Methinks some personal considerations on the part of the flight crew came into play.Clark had / has one of the longest runway in Asia I think.

Then again the business houses controlling the economy have all the reasons to make sure t all stays in Manila, like pumping billions into a new airport in reclaimed land (loan guaranteed by the govt anyway) vs a fraction of that to fix Clark.

BTW, Clark has dozens of retired planes parked around and still they have space left to park a hundred.

Recently a Filipino politicos son was raving about why it must be in Manila and I asked how many of those landing in Manila really are staying in Manila vs traveling out.

His reply?

We want all foreigners and locals to experience Manila even if they have no business in Manila (ands add to the congestion and fatten the pockets of the business houses I guess which he didn't say out loud).

X Man
08-27-14, 14:56
Does anyone beside me find it odd how the ladies at MBC / LAC (not to mention Amazonia and G point) look so delicious on the first night in Manila and rather plain on the last night in Manila? How does that happen?

Amazonia: Chatted to two ladies, one of which was very fine. Ms Fine had a fugly friend, which I was polite too. We had a nice conversation, but the specifics of dinero with Ms. Fine were not forthcoming. The usual, "up to you". So, I finished my beer and left. But was surprised to find, first the fugly, then Ms. Fine, wanted tips. After an unsuccessful nego, I didn't think tips were in order. I felt a bit uncomfortable. Am I missing something?

Robinsons ermita: I was surprised to find the National bookstore and TGIF closed. The bookstore was one of my favorite meeting places. TGIF promises to return,but it was never one of my favorite dining choices. The Chinese restaurant across P. Gil street from TGIF is also closed or possibly being renovated. But there is a brand spanking new house of high cuisine on the Malate side of P. Gil -- Yes, another McDonalds. Stayed at Rothman and Executive. Both have been review here before.

Taxi: Airport to Malate. Take the Skyway? Okay, it seems like I have to go thru Makati just to get to Malate. Maybe I should stay at Makati. WTF, with the trucks lined up on Roxas? Apparently this is to reduce congestion on Roxas. It seems to be working, although the taxi drivers now whine about the "heavy traffic" of trucks. For the record, I do sometimes book direct flights to Cebu in order to avoid the Manila traffic and taxi ripoff headache.

KongKing
08-28-14, 00:45
Clark had / has one of the longest runway in Asia I think.Hardly relevant to this Manila forum or to the i"S"g topic but for accuracy we should note:

Clark International runways (2): 3,200 m.

Hong Kong: 3,800 m.

Bangkok Suvarnabhumi: 4,000 m.

Singapore Changi: 4,000 m.

Kuala Lumpur International: 4124 m.

Despite plans to diversify Clark it seems airlines (Emirates, Air Asia, Tiger, Cebu Pacific) have been abandoning or reducing Clark services.

WestCoast1
08-28-14, 02:58
Amazonia: Chatted to two ladies, one of which was very fine. Ms Fine had a fugly friend, which I was polite too. We had a nice conversation, but the specifics of dinero with Ms. Fine were not forthcoming. The usual, "up to you". So, I finished my beer and left. But was surprised to find, first the fugly, then Ms. Fine, wanted tips. After an unsuccessful nego, I didn't think tips were in order. I felt a bit uncomfortable. Am I missing something?Yes. The Amazonia girls won't let you out of there without massage (once you sit down). They are typically fugly and don't get taken very often. You might find up to 3 girls massaging your hands, shoulders, and thigh at the same time. It will take you 5-10 minutes to down a beer and chat the girls; then they all want a tip. Its best to either tell the girls you want privacy, or pick one girl and tell her to have the other girls leave you alone.

Few months ago I sat at the bar drinking one afternoon and got the above treatment. I told them no touching, and 3 of the 5 girls standing next to me split. Of the two remaining, one never spoke and the other was not terrible. Late 20's, decent figure, blah face. She kept insisting that we go upstairs to a room or to my hotel. I wasn't interested in a full session, but I figured it might be nice to photograph her naked (assuming the tits and tummy weren't saggy / stretched). Or I could just walk away. After several of her attempts to go to my hotel, I ran thru my short list and said 500 for 2 hours. I figured that would put her off and she'd leave me alone. No such luck: "OK. We go your hotel". Jeez, that was too easy. Once in the hotel I got my pics and we also had a very short session, the whole thing lasted 20-25 minutes, and she did not attempt to leave early, although I let her go at the 1 hour mark. Her body was fine when the clothes came off. Sometimes you get lucky.


Robinsons ermita: I was surprised to find the National bookstore and TGIF closed. The bookstore was one of my favorite meeting places. TGIF promises to return,but it was never one of my favorite dining choices. The Chinese restaurant across P. Gil street from TGIF is also closed or possibly being renovated. But there is a brand spanking new house of high cuisine on the Malate side of P. Gil -- Yes, another McDonalds.They are remodeling inside the P Gill side of the mall, it was like that in June also. That new McDo on the corner of P Gil / Adriatico was being built when I was there last Christmas.

TJ222
08-28-14, 10:00
I see there's some messy taxi stuff going, so I'll throw in my XP.

I arrived pretty early morning at T3. There was no line through immigration, so that went quick, though Mr. Rubber Stamp was about as friendly as a junk yard dog.

Got a coffee and waited til the sun started to peak before I grabbed a taxi. There was a huge line of coupon and yellow cabs just waiting at about 6:00 am Jumped in a metered yellow cab, and got to Ermita in about 40 minutes. There was a ton of jeepneys with school kids jamming up the road, so 40 seemed reasonable. Total damage on the meter: 222 pesos.

Side Note: I think I booked this area due to LA Cafe, but wow, it's worse than I remembered (the area, not LA Cafe, have not hit that up yet).

X Man
08-28-14, 12:59
I love a good massage, but I don't ever allow some stranger to come up behind me and start touching me. And some of the massage. Wannabe dullards will make faces or call you "stuck up" when you wave them off, which can affect the rest of your stay at that particular bar. But like Westy, I've had some great sessions with gals who aren't phased by this, or maybe aren't influenced by the Asian group mentality. (sorry for the stereotype). If a bar gal can read your mood, make the adjustment, provide some relaxing banter, and offer a good hug / hugs, she may just.

It could be worse! When I first visited the Philippines in Olongapo there were many go go bars that catered to the US military. At the bigger clubs there was often a toilet guy who would massage your back while you were at the urinal. Very uncomfortable for me. I think the EDSA Cotton Club has a toilet guy. Although less aggressive.


Yes. The Amazonia girls won't let you out of there without massage (once you sit down). They are typically fugly and don't get taken very often. You might find up to 3 girls massaging your hands, shoulders, and thigh at the same time. It will take you 5-10 minutes to down a beer and chat the girls; then they all want a tip. Its best to either tell the girls you want privacy, or pick one girl and tell her to have the other girls leave you alone.

SNIP SNIP Her body was fine when the clothes came off. Sometimes you get lucky.

They are remodeling inside the P Gill side of the mall, it was like that in June also. That new McDo on the corner of P Gil / Adriatico was being built when I was there last Christmas.

Soapy Smith
08-28-14, 16:53
Does anyone beside me find it odd how the ladies at MBC / LAC (not to mention Amazonia and G point) look so delicious on the first night in Manila and rather plain on the last night in Manila? How does that happen?

SNIP, SNIP

Taxi: Airport to Malate. Take the Skyway? Okay, it seems like I have to go thru Makati just to get to Malate. Maybe I should stay at Makati. WTF, with the trucks lined up on Roxas? Apparently this is to reduce congestion on Roxas. It seems to be working, although the taxi drivers now whine about the "heavy traffic" of trucks. For the record, I do sometimes book direct flights to Cebu in order to avoid the Manila traffic and taxi ripoff headache.I went to G-Point for sightseeing and dinner one evening after I had been in town about a week. Perhaps it was because I had been around lots of Pinays in the preceding week, but I saw no women at G-Point that I would have considered delicious. Mostly women in late 30's and even late 40's, many of them dancing with each other. I did observe several women ordering and paying for their own dinner and wondered if this meant they were of independent means but looking for companionship for the evening. Food that I recalled as having been good in the past was mostly just huge servings and tasteless. Sort of faux European cuisine prepared by Filipinos who have never eaten European cuisine.

The taxi route via the skyway seems to have been prompted by the location of T3--closer to the skyway than to Roxas. The problem with the "skyway" for getting to Malate or Ermita is that all the traffic gets backed up when the road dumps onto Quirino. Traffic coming out of Makati on Gil Puyat, Pablo Ocampo and Zobel Roxas also add to congestion on what's left of the skyway (or Sergio Osmena). There's also construction all along the highway as they build piers to support an eventual real skyway that connects the Southern and Northern Expressways. Projected completion in about three years will undoubtedly drag on well past that.

In February a yellow cab from T1 to Paco Park via Roxas and UN Avenue cost 330 pesos (plus tip). Three weeks ago a yellow cab from T3 to UN and Taft (also near Paco Park) via the "skyway" cost 330 pesos (plus tip and 20 php toll fare). My point is that T3 has clear advantages over T1 for space, air conditioning, and eateries, but if Ermita or Malate is the destination, there are no advantages in taxi travel and possibly some added headaches in waiting for cabs at T3.

X Man
08-29-14, 13:05
Thanks for the add on SK. I've never found the food at G point good, so glad to hear you found a sweet spot at some point in the distant past. My G point gal was 27, and the only one I would have considered on that night. Beer goggles help when in a pinch. The last time I ordered food in LAC I had a few hanger ons and a large plate of pancit made everyone happy. I don't know if they still give those big plates of food.

G point is the kind of place where guys do bring wives or gfs, so mind your manners. As SK suggests they might also have independent means of income. It would be wildly reckless to assume these ladies are getting remittances from some romantic fool from far, far away and just needed to meet up with the old friends and possibly get a good fk on the side. That would be wildly reckless. X.


I went to G-Point for sightseeing and dinner one evening after I had been in town about a week. Perhaps it was because I had been around lots of Pinays in the preceding week, but I saw no women at G-Point that I would have considered delicious. Mostly women in late 30's and even late 40's, many of them dancing with each other. I did observe several women ordering and paying for their own dinner and wondered if this meant they were of independent means but looking for companionship for the evening. Food that I recalled as having been good in the past was mostly just huge servings and tasteless. Sort of faux European cuisine prepared by Filipinos who have never eaten European cuisine.

The taxi route via the skyway seems to have been prompted by the location of T3--closer to the skyway than to Roxas. The problem with the "skyway" for getting to Malate or Ermita is that all the traffic gets backed up when the road dumps onto Quirino. Traffic coming out of Makati on Gil Puyat, Pablo Ocampo and Zobel Roxas also add to congestion on what's left of the skyway (or Sergio Osmena). There's also construction all along the highway as they build piers to support an eventual real skyway that connects the Southern and Northern Expressways. Projected completion in about three years will undoubtedly drag on well past that.

In February a yellow cab from T1 to Paco Park via Roxas and UN Avenue cost 330 pesos (plus tip). Three weeks ago a yellow cab from T3 to UN and Taft (also near Paco Park) via the "skyway" cost 330 pesos (plus tip and 20 php toll fare). My point is that T3 has clear advantages over T1 for space, air conditioning, and eateries, but if Ermita or Malate is the destination, there are no advantages in taxi travel and possibly some added headaches in waiting for cabs at T3.

WestCoast1
08-29-14, 14:26
I went to G-Point for sightseeing and dinner one evening after I had been in town about a week. Perhaps it was because I had been around lots of Pinays in the preceding week, but I saw no women at G-Point that I would have considered delicious. Mostly women in late 30's and even late 40's, many of them dancing with each other. I did observe several women ordering and paying for their own dinner and wondered if this meant they were of independent means but looking for companionship for the evening. Food that I recalled as having been good in the past was mostly just huge servings and tasteless. Sort of faux European cuisine prepared by Filipinos who have never eaten European cuisine.
Skip, clear out your PM inbox.

Hutsori
08-30-14, 00:16
I went to G-Point for sightseeing and dinner one evening after I had been in town about a week. Perhaps it was because I had been around lots of Pinays in the preceding week, but I saw no women at G-Point that I would have considered delicious. Mostly women in late 30's and even late 40's, many of them dancing with each other.It's a more laid back place for older blokes. From time to time there are some attractive girls there, but most are older with kids and have the battle damage.



The taxi route via the skyway seems to have been prompted by the location of T3--closer to the skyway than to Roxas. The problem with the "skyway" for getting to Malate or Ermita is that all the traffic gets backed up when the road dumps onto Quirino. Traffic coming out of Makati on Gil Puyat, Pablo Ocampo and Zobel Roxas also add to congestion on what's left of the skyway (or Sergio Osmena). There's also construction all along the highway as they build piers to support an eventual real skyway that connects the Southern and Northern Expressways. Projected completion in about three years will undoubtedly drag on well past that.Normally I'd never recommend taking the skyway to Malate / Ermita; better to go through Baclaran to Roxas. However, due to the Manila port gridlock the gov't has eliminated the prohibition of trucks on Roxas. This has turned the left lane of the three-lane road into a parking lot as the trucks queue for their loads. I read in the paper that some truckers are waiting up to three days to pick up their loads.

Member #4698
09-01-14, 00:59
Day 2, Friday February 28, 2014 – Ermita:

So I arrived in MNL after a 24 hour plane flight tired, but ready for some action. My adrenalin was pumping. I mean who could sleep now knowing that hundreds of girls were waiting to meet me all over town and ready to show me a good time. The only question in my mind was whether I should go to MBC as I usually do my first night in town or possibly step up in class and head for the Edsa Entertainment Complex. Since it was past 11:30 pm by the time I checked into the Diamond Hotel and cleaned up a little, I headed for MBC thinking that most of the hot girls at EDSA might already be barfined and I could go to Edsa early prime time Saturday night instead. Actually I like MBC a lot. The international group of customers that frequent this bar and the friendly, but slightly worn FL's that sell their services here create an ambiance and total circus circus that is amazing. But first nights in town at MBC are a problematic for me, because I always seem to get seduced by a friendly, sexy, but rather plain FL's. I have never taken a stunner from this bar. What invariably happens when I choose to hang out in this bar is that my usually high standards for girls begin to slip and become anchored to the standards of the bar. The longer I stay here soaking up the atmosphere and the liquor, the more likely some FL's with a friendly smile and a few sexy moves will win me over. Damn! I am so easy sometimes as was definitely the case this night.

I walked over to MBC. It is only 2 blocks from the Diamond Hotel. It was Friday night and the place was packed. I walked around the bar a couple of times noting all the unattached girls giving me that "I want to have sex with you" look. A couple of girls looked real doable, but I couldn't make up my mind right away. I found an empty bar stool, sat down, and ordered a SML. A few plain girls immediately came by to try their luck. I politely turned them away. Across the other side of the bar, I spotted the prettiest girl in the place, she was a 6. 5* at least, but unfortunately, she was talking to some guy. I paid for my drink so I could walk around some more. I kind of bumped into this friendly girl. She smiled and we both said Hello,. We talked a bit and I noticed that she had a slight Chinese look to her and that she was tall for a Filipina. She seemed friendly enough, but I still wasn't ready to make my selection. I wanted to see if I could find a hotter looking girl, so I moved on.

Sitting back at my bar stool, I sipped my SML and continued looking around. For some reason every time I looked Roschelle's way, our eyes made contact and she smiled. After a while she came by. She stood between my legs so her thigh was up against my crotch. I thought what the hell and offered to buy her a drink. I was right about her lineage. Her grandfather was Filipino / Chinese and she was 5'7" tall. Slowly I started warming up towards this girl and I put my arm around her and drew her closer. Soon we were making out and she reached down and unzipped my fly. I think she was pleased that I was hard. I told her I had just arrived in Manila tonight and wanted a little company. I asked her how much she wanted and she said 2000 p. And that was that. I bought another round for us and her girlfriend came by to see who Roschelle had reeled in. After we finished our drinks we headed back to the Diamond Hotel arm in arm.

Back in the room, I turned on the TV, we stripped, and we soaped each other up in the shower and played around. Her tits showed a little wear and tear, but at this point I kind of expected it and I did not care. All clean and dry, we then moved to the bed where she gave me a pretty decent BJ. Then I got on top. I knew what I was about to do, but something inside of me could not stop and I slowly entered her and started riding her bareback. It felt great, but at the same time I thought, "shit, I am lost if I fall off the wagon and start riding bareback the very first girl I hook up with in the PI. " But there is no use crying over spilled milk and I told myself I would try and get a grip the next time with other girls.

After our little session, Roschelle and I talked a bit while watching some movie. She had a baby who lived with mother and she was done with Philippine men. Now where have I heard that one before? LOL. Soon the long plane ride hit me and I felt tired. I turned out the lights. Roschelle wrapped herself around me and we fell asleep. Sometime in the early morning around 3 or 4, I woke up with a hard on. Roschelle was still wrapped around me and I gently started kissing her. She responded warmly and I slid right into her wet pussy sideways. Afterwards we cuddled and fell asleep again. The next thing I knew it was around 11 am and I was still in Roschelle' arms. I gently initiated sex a third time.

IMHO, Roschelle may not be a looker, but she is a damn nice girl like so many Filipinas I have met. I had a very good time with her. Nothing she did was sexually extraordinary, but it was all like shagging a girlfriend or somebody who wanted to be your girlfriend and that is what made it so nice. There was nothing that seemed phony or commercial about her. So I had a good time. I gave her a 500 p tip because she was so nice and I knew she needed the money. She gave me her cell number before I walked her down to the corner where we said goodbye. She said she was going to find the jeepney to take her home. I forgot where home was, but she said it was more than an hour or two away. I never called her or saw her again. She said she was going to be at MBC Saturday night and hoped I would come by. Although she was good company, there were so many fish in the sea to catch; I did not even consider going back to MBC. I had already made up my mind to go hunting at the Edsa Complex Saturday. In any case, my trip had started off well!

Member #4698
09-01-14, 01:05
Day 3, Saturday March 1, 2014 Pasay:

I took it easy most of the day. After Roschelle and I parted ways I exchanged some dollars for pesos (4,430 p per $100), had lunch at the Robinsons Mall (TGI Fridays) and ran some errands. Then I relaxed by the Diamond Hotel swimming pool and took a nap later.

Around 8 pm I took a taxi to the EDSA Entertainment Complex. I think there are 6 bars on the first floor. It is like the Nana Plaza of Manila. I think the two must see bars here are Firehouse and Cotton Club. You will definitely find some good looking girls here. Prices vary. There is the barfine and then there is the girl's service fee which is paid separately to your girl. This is a similar pricing structure to Burgos Street bars and the total price here is somewhere in the middle meaning the Edsa Complex bars are more expensive than the least expensive Burgos Street bars like Rogues and Stardust and less expensive than the more expensive Burgos street bars like Bottoms. As for quality, well I think it is pretty good meaning a lot better than MBC and roughly on par with many Burgos Street bars. So it is a good place to go.

It had been 2 years since I last visited the Edsa Entertainment Complex. Back in 2012 I had barfined a little cutie by the name of Beth out of Firehouse so that is where I started my mini barhop this night even though I had little expectations of finding Beth again. Firehouse had not changed much, but with a quick and albeit superficial look around the bar; I decided this wasn't the place for me tonight and I headed over to the Cotton Club.

Standing outside of Cotton Club were two very attractive girls who said Hi and told me they were cousins. They escorted me into the bar and to an empty booth. The girls immediately wanted me to keep me company. I politely declined their offer and told them that maybe later I would ask them over for a drink. Fact was that even though they were hot, I usually like to take my time and check out all the girls available in a bar before making any kind of decisions about who I want to invite over for a drink. So I initially sat by myself ordered a SML. I started to watch the girls on stage and I saw several really hot girls so I was very impressed with the high quality on display here. I was debating with myself about who I wanted to ask over. The cousins were definitely in the running as well as a few hotties dancing on stage. Then in the corner near the stage, I spotted a very pretty young spinner applying the last touches of make up to her face. She looked very young and sexy. I watched her closely as she got on stage and started dancing. I smiled at her and she shyly smiled back and I knew I was going to ask Jen over for a drink. A mamasan came over and said Hello,. With an open arm gesture towards the stage she suggested I could have any girl I wanted. Just choose, it is up to you, sir. I pointed Jen out to her and said I liked her. Mama nodded and said she was a new girl that had just started working here. The mama then made a few quick hand signals and Jen came down to join us. We said Hello, to each other and Jen sat down next to me. She seemed a little shy, but friendly. I asked Jen what she would like to drink and she ordered some lady drink. Then mama left us alone to get acquainted.

Jen said she was 19 and she had only been working here for 3 weeks. I asked her if she liked working at Cotton Club. She seemed a little hesitant to answer. Her short tenure here and young age seemed to be the reason her shyness. I decided to try to loosen her up a little and I asked her if she liked Tequila. She gave me a naughty smile and said yes, so I ordered a round for us. The Tequila seemed to do the trick, but to make certain, I ordered another round and soon her initial shyness disappeared. I held her hand and told her I thought she was very pretty. She said there were many girls here that were prettier than she was. I disagreed. Over the next 30 minutes of so I continued to hold her close and I kissed her a couple of times. It was all very tame and innocent compared to some of the in-bar action I have had in Manila, AC, and Subic over the years, but enjoyable. We continued to make friendly conversation so at some point I asked her if she wanted me to barfine her. She then told me that she had never been barfined before; but that she thought I was a nice man and she would like to go with me. I asked her what the barfine was at Cotton Club and she said I should ask mama.

I called mama over and told her I liked Jen. Mama then asked if I wanted to barfine her and I said yes. Mama then explained to me the barfine was 1800 p, but that did not include the girl's fee. The girl's service fee was up to her. So I thanked mama and said I wanted to talk to Jen privately. I also ordered another round of Tequila. I then probably made a mistake by asking Jen what she wanted and she told me 4000 p. I gave her a funny exaggerated smile indicating I thought that was a lot of money. Jen then said she would stay with me as long as I wanted. Now I don't like to negotiate with bar girls because I think it kills the vibe. I usually either make an initial offer based on what I know the price should be or if the girl makes the offer I either accept it or reject it. In this particular instance, I knew Cotton Club girls ask between 3000 p and 5000 p for LT so Jen was right in the middle. OK, but there was one thing; I had an early morning flight to Jakarta the next day and I did not feel I could make the most of an overnight LT arrangement. I told Jen that for our first time together, I felt that a ST arrangement would be better for both of us so we could take things slow and get to know each other. I explained that if we liked each other our 2nd date would definitely be LT. I then offered her 2000 p for ST which she accepted. About this time the Tequila arrived and we sealed the deal with a toast. Then after we downed our shots, we deep French kissed for the first time. I called the mama over one last time and settled the bill including the barfine. Mama took me aside and asked me to be easy with Jen, that this was her first time with a customer. I assured her I was a gentleman and I was going to take good care of Jen. She replied, "I know you will. Thank you. " LOL, and then she hit me up for a drink which I bought for her. Jen then left to get changed. So forgetting the booze which was not cheap, but part of any night's entertainment; ST with Jen was going to cost me 3800 p (1800 p barfine + 2000 p service) plus any tip I might decide to give her later.

After a short while, Jen came back to me dressed in tight jeans and a cute flimsy little top. She looked adorable. I could tell that the Tequila had had a positive effect on her, but she was not drunk just loosened up a bit. As we left the club one of the cousins was still hanging by the door. She gave me that faux sad "why didn't you pick me look" for a second and then she flashed a big smile. The first taxi guy outside tried to hold me up by asking for a fixed rate back to the Diamond Hotel. I told him no way and chose another taxi. The hotel was less than 7 minutes away and Jen and I made out in the back seat. I walked arm in arm with sexy young Jen through the Diamond Hotel's ornate lobby and I felt great. The Tequila had had a positive effect on me too. The staff were all gracious and super courteous. We made out some more in the elevator and once we were in my room I turned on the TV and gave the remote to Jen. She picked a cartoon station to watch of course. I offered her a coke or some juice and then I joined her on the bed. We made out some more as we watched TV and I slowly removed her top and then her bra. She had very nice "A" cups with pointy brown nipples.

Initially Jen wanted to take a shower separately, but I told her it would be fun to shower together so she agreed. We fooled around a little in the shower, but I could see that she was kind of a newbie at this. I poured some bath gel on my hands and started massaging her breasts. Then I poured some gel on her hands and placed her hands on my dick. She then followed my lead and started massaging it. We kissed and fooled around until we were both clean and rinsed. Then we dried off and got back together again in bed. We made out for some time and I would occasionally kiss her small breasts and nipples. She reached down and gave me a HJ. It wasn't much more that a hand shake, but I remember that it turned me on. I did not wait or ask for a BJ. I just got on top of her and spread her legs. I gently massaged her pussy lips with my dick and then after a while I slowly entered her. Her pussy was wet and took my dick in pretty easily. Still, I took my time and waited until I knew she was ready for full penetration. Then I let her have it. The sex was basic missionary nothing more, but it was good and I enjoyed shagging her. She gave me some of her passion. Afterwards we cuddled and kissed in each other's arms as we watched TV. I changed the channel to HBO.

We took another shower together and then got back in bed. Jen seemed in no hurry to leave. I was happy with the one shot and had no intention of asking her to stay till morning. I was feeling good with her by my side in bed though and did not see any reason to ask her to leave. She gave me her cell number and I told her I would call her. I then explained to her that I was leaving the PI tomorrow morning and I would not be able to see her again until I came back 5 weeks later. She asked where I was going and then said, "Do not forget me. " She stayed in bed with me for another hour or so and then we both got dressed. I asked her if I could take her picture, but she was way too modest to allow me even a head shot. Damn! I let her see me put 2000 p plus a 300 p tip in her purse. She made no attempt to count the money. I escorted her downstairs, we kissed goodbye, and I saw her off in a taxi. She was heading back to the Cotton Club.

In my final analysis, Jen was a real fine girl. I made mental note to go back to Cotton Club when I returned to Manila in April. Not only did I want to see her again, but there were at least 4 other girls at Cotton Club, including the cousins that I wanted to get to know better (shag). I think Cotton Club is one of the better bars in Pasay and therefore metro Manila. Interestingly, I stayed in Makati when I returned to the PI. I initially planned to go back to the Cotton Club again. I really wanted to go back to the Cotton Club, but I just couldn't tear myself away from Makati. The simple truth was that I met a girl in Bottoms Bar on Burgos Street on one of the last remaining days of my trip that blew me away. But that is another journal entry. You guys will have to wait for that one. My next destination: Jakarta.

Robbaf
09-01-14, 02:36
Day 2, Friday February 28, 2014 Ermita:

Good reports. Thanks for posting.

She looks like a Filipina I picked up in Dubai and she was also GFE.

Robb.

Pip Jaeger
09-01-14, 10:36
Thanks for the FR's Natty!


Ermita:
SNIP
The next thing I knew it was around 11 am and I was still in Roschelle' arms. I gently initiated sex a third time.

IMHO, Roschelle may not be a looker, but she is a damn nice girl like so many Filipinas I have met. I had a very good time with her. Nothing she did was sexually extraordinary, but it was all like shagging a girlfriend or somebody who wanted to be your girlfriend and that is what made it so nice. There was nothing that seemed phony or commercial about her. So I had a good time.Well said; GFE and in general the girls' attitudes are prime reasons many of us, including me, love the Phils and keep returning or decide to settle / retire there.

Amavida
09-03-14, 19:11
I don't recommend trawling malls as a primary source of pleasure but if you're at a loose end & near Robinson's Malate I advise not going inside but stand outside the Mid Town entrance in the early evening. Their are groups of innocent looking young Pinay standing around. Hang around like your waiting.

No need to approach them.

They will smile & engage you.

I got asked if I was waiting for somebody & was firmly told they would go with me if my date didn't turn up. They were very fuckable & I would easily taken 1 or three of them had I not had a sure thing turning up.

AV.

Radical Guy
09-03-14, 21:16
I advise not going inside but stand outside the Mid Town entrance in the early evening. Their are groups of innocent looking young Pinay standing around Which one is the Mid Town entrance? Is it the one near Starbucks?

RG.

OldJedi
09-03-14, 22:03
Which one is the Mid Town entrance? Is it the one near Starbucks?

RG.Yep, near Starbucks. Pedro Gil / Adriatico St.

Buko Max
09-04-14, 00:19
I don't recommend trawling malls as a primary source of pleasure but if you're at a loose end & near Robinson's Malate I advise not going inside but stand outside the Mid Town entrance in the early evening.Actually, once the mall closes down for the evening, all the girls get flushed out of the main entrance. Yes Starbucks is right there and so is a water fountain where they congregate.

Pip Jaeger
09-04-14, 02:06
Actually, once the mall closes down for the evening, all the girls get flushed out of the main entrance. Yes Starbucks is right there and so is a water fountain where they congregate.Last time I was there I noticed that after the mall closed a most of them would move around the corner (onto Adriatico) or over near LAC (if not into it), usually on Salas St.

Amavida
09-04-14, 07:28
Which one is the Mid Town entrance? Is it the one near Starbucks?

RG.Yes mate.

AV.

Slippery
09-04-14, 22:30
Last time I was there I noticed that after the mall closed a most of them would move around the corner (onto Adriatico) or over near LAC (if not into it), usually on Salas St.Salas is a street I walk through quickly during the day and stay off of at night.

Nolz7
09-05-14, 21:39
I was in la Cafe last night and I could not close a deal with anyone that takes below 2500. They seem to hang around more towards Japanese men.

Fast Eddie 48
09-08-14, 22:36
I was in la Cafe last night and I could not close a deal with anyone that takes below 2500. They seem to hang around more towards Japanese men.To Nolz 7.

No kidding no one will take less than 2500 p even the average one find that hard to believe, I been to LA more than 20 time never paid more than 1500 p for ST, I know the hot one will not bargin never drop their price but many will take 1500 p or less.

Fast eddie 48.

Amavida
09-09-14, 01:10
To Nolz 7.

No kidding no one will take less than 2500 p even the average one find that hard to believe, I been to LA more than 20 time never paid more than 1500 p for ST, I know the hot one will not bargin never drop their price but many will take 1500 p or less.

Fast eddie 48.Agreed FE, in my experience P1500ST is common in Manila for LAC or dating site semi pro's.

AV.

AV.

Amavida
09-09-14, 01:13
I was in la Cafe last night and I could not close a deal with anyone that takes below 2500. They seem to hang around more towards Japanese men.Quality / quantity varies wildly from night to night. Prices are fairly stable but you can get lucky as well as laugh out loud at the ridiculous ones. That venue is not really my cup of tea but I drop by occasionally still for a recce.

AV.

WestCoast1
09-09-14, 03:16
I was in la Cafe last night and I could not close a deal with anyone that takes below 2500. They seem to hang around more towards Japanese men.


To Nolz 7.
No kidding no one will take less than 2500 p even the average one find that hard to believe, I been to LA more than 20 time never paid more than 1500 p for ST, I know the hot one will not bargin never drop their price but many will take 1500 p or less.



Quality / quantity varies wildly from night to night. Prices are fairly stable but you can get lucky as well as laugh out loud at the ridiculous ones. That venue is not really my cup of tea but I drop by occasionally still for a recce.As of recently, I pulled two girls (one each on different days) from LAC for 1000ST. My caveat is still a promise to have them out of the room within 2 hours of her initial shower. I also tell them they must stay the full two hours (I don't usually keep them that long, an hour is usually fine, as I don't worry about a second pop). Most are fine with 1000 if they know its 2 hours max. Previous to this strategy, most girls wouldn't budge under 1500 (been doing this 2 hour thing for over 2 years). I was also rejected by one girl who could not agree to anal (before we discussed money), and another who simply stated p2000 for her ST and would not budge (to be honest about it, she was hotttttt). My MO is to session (40-50 minutes) after her shower, have her shower again while I shrink / upload photos (5-20 minutes), and have her watch TV or sit and txt (naked -- always) while I rinse in the shower (2 minutes). Then I offer to exchange phone numbers, pay her and ask her to dress with me, and walk her out the front door at about 60-80 minutes after arrival. It goes the same way almost all the time unless the girl is chatty afterward. I often offer to buy the girl a jollibee or mcdo after, but most don't accept that. I tip p50 for jeep typically.

Amavida is right: there have been times when I ran into several gals in a row on one visit who wanted exorbitant prices. Just walk away until you hit on one more suitable to you (some guys are uncomfortable with that). Remember: you are the casino (not the girl), most things are stacked in your favor to win. Walk away when anything appears otherwise.

Nolz I will PM you.

Jstlookin
09-10-14, 17:09
Hey all,

First time to Philippines, yay!

I have an over night in manila on 19th and fly out early morning to another city. So I need accom close to the airport. Not to expensive (not the 5* range). I am not really certain of how expensive decent places are. Clean and hygienic, a normal western standard bathroom. Everything else is sort of immaterial. Now I am well aware of google and all the other sites that I can find this info. Obviously I am asking here for a reason.

I would like to get a massage! Definitely would go out for a beer! Maybe some fun if I fancy someone.

I have read thru 6 pages of 3 different threads here, and this is what I have understood:

A) 300 to 400 P is normal for a taxi ride of 30 mins.

B) 2000 P to 3000 P = ST, 3500 to 5000 P =LT.

C) LAC, EDSA and Burgos = bars / pubs.

D) there don't seem to be many real massage places.

E) Makati, Malate, Ermita, Angeles etc = neighborhoods / towns, cities in Manila?

So here is my question:

Where and what would you recommend me?

Any and all help is most appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Metkim
09-10-14, 18:56
So here is my question:

Where and what would you recommend me?

Any and all help is most appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Stay at the Heritage. They say they are 5 stars (but, it's not). It is close to the airport though and should run you around $70 USD per night. The cab from the airport should be less than 200 php and if you want to grab a beer, you can attempt to cross the street and check out the fine ladies at the EDSA complex.

Yuri
09-10-14, 19:44
Hey all,

First time to Philippines, yay!

I have an over night in manila on 19th and fly out early morning to another city. So I need accom close to the airport. Not to expensive (not the 5* range). I am not really certain of how expensive decent places are. Clean and hygienic, a normal western standard bathroom. Everything else is sort of immaterial. Now I am well aware of google and all the other sites that I can find this info. Obviously I am asking here for a reason.

I would like to get a massage! Definitely would go out for a beer! Maybe some fun if I fancy someone.

I have read thru 6 pages of 3 different threads here, and this is what I have understood:

A) 300 to 400 P is normal for a taxi ride of 30 mins...I would recommend that you stay in Makati. For an inexpensive hotel right in the middle of the action I would do Royal Belagiio. Good price. For a good bar with a decent mamasan who can introduce you to nice young lady so that you can have good chance to have that decent nice evening. I would go to "Plan be" Bar which is right across the street from Royal Belagio hotel. For one night, P. Burgos street is the best and SAFEST place in Manila to be.

Lots of tourist and police around.

Jstlookin
09-10-14, 19:53
if you want to grab a beer, you can attempt to cross the street and check out the fine ladies at the EDSA complex.Thank you Metkim.

Now I certainly want a beer and the prospect of fine ladies sounds all the more tempting. But attempt to cross the street is scary! What am I in for?

All the FRs I have read so far seem to be happening in the darkness. Evening stroll onwards. And I am looking for beer with lunch, still fine ladies there?

What do you think, should I book in advance? At the heritage.

Nolz7
09-10-14, 21:01
I kid you not gentlemen! Maybe I did not negotiate hard enough. I was there mainly to watch US Open Tennis as my hotel totally fuckup my TV. Anyways, I managed to grab a few online PSPs through Facebook for 2500. The face value was way better than those in LA. I'm now heading to Subic. I hope things will be brighter over there.

Redman69
09-10-14, 22:08
E; Angelies city is two hours from Manila, the others are in Manila, go by different names. Makati is nice area and I think EDSA complex is there. Ermitra and Malate are the strip clubs and stuff. Old town run down area. 1/2 hr. From airport. Lots of hotels in the 3 to 4 star range. Pussy pricing is about right. A little Hi but for a one nighter wanting a good time. Close enough. Makati is closer to the airport I think. Have only taken the tub thru that area. Much safer for a one night. Look on craiglist for massage to hotel. But would recommend what ever area. Go shopping and pick take out. There is plenty in both areas. Happy hunting.

Amavida
09-11-14, 00:16
Hey all,

First time to Philippines, yay!

I have an over night in manila on 19th and fly out early morning to another city. So I need accom close to the airport. Not to expensive (not the 5* range). I am not really certain of how expensive decent places are. Clean and hygienic, a normal western standard bathroom. Everything else is sort of immaterial. Now I am well aware of google and all the other sites that I can find this info. Obviously I am asking here for a reason.

I would like to get a massage! Definitely would go out for a beer! Maybe some fun if I fancy someone.

I have read thru 6 pages of 3 different threads here, and this is what I have understood:

A) 300 to 400 P is normal for a taxi ride of 30 mins.

B) 2000 P to 3000 P = ST, 3500 to 5000 P =LT.

C) LAC, EDSA and Burgos = bars / pubs.

D) there don't seem to be many real massage places.

E) Makati, Malate, Ermita, Angeles etc = neighborhoods / towns, cities in Manila?

So here is my question:

Where and what would you recommend me?

Any and all help is most appreciated.

Thanks in advance.Need to be close to the airport & sex, not 5*. I suggest Victoria Court Hotel Cuneta (Pasay).

http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/Hotel_Review-g298452-d1443519-Reviews-Victoria_Court_Cuneta-Pasay_Metro_Manila_Luzon.html

Close to airport, good 3* love hotel with big rooms, not expensive. Right across the road from EDSA bars.

http://www.victoriacourt.biz/mobile/

Those taxi fares sound a little high. Just insist they use the meter or get out. In the end don't have a stroke about $5. 00.

Those P4 P prices are more like freelance or semi pro, expect to pay much more in girly bars like EDSA or Burgos.

Have fun & throw us a FR however brief when you're done.

AV.

Amavida
09-11-14, 00:22
Thank you Metkim.

Now I certainly want a beer and the prospect of fine ladies sounds all the more tempting. But attempt to cross the street is scary! What am I in for?

All the FRs I have read so far seem to be happening in the darkness. Evening stroll onwards. And I am looking for beer with lunch, still fine ladies there?

What do you think, should I book in advance? At the heritage.Heritage is _way_ overpriced. It needs maintenance badly for its price range. There is a big walkway pedestrian bridge across the roadway to Edsa.

Sorry girly bars are nocturnal activity. Want day time fun try LAC in Malate or Havana in Makati but expect to spend many many hours in traffic (most of your day). Get on dating sites for day girls or go hang at malls.

AV.

FreebieFan
09-11-14, 01:45
Heritage is _way_ overpriced. It needs maintenance badly for its price range. There is a big walkway pedestrian bridge across the roadway to Edsa.


AV.And at the bottom of the badly designed bridge, which leads to a lampost and some vendors, etc, are a few younger and sometimes older kids aware that foreigners cross the bridge and may not always hold onto their belongings. Put your beggar radar on, guard all your pockets, walk fast and purposefully and if any kids gets too close, shout loudly, or accidentally stamp on his feet. They will scamper.

Amavida
09-11-14, 02:30
And at the bottom of the badly designed bridge, which leads to a lampost and some vendors, etc, are a few younger and sometimes older kids aware that foreigners cross the bridge and may not always hold onto their belongings. Put your beggar radar on, guard all your pockets, walk fast and purposefully and if any kids gets too close, shout loudly, or accidentally stamp on his feet. They will scamper.Street kids & beggars are endemic to most parts of Manila. I've never had a problem especially at that location. Advice worth noting nonetheless.

Tourists use the elevated walkway to get snaps.

AV.

Hutsori
09-11-14, 08:13
Sorry girly bars are nocturnal activity. Want day time fun try LAC in Malate or Havana in Makati but expect to spend many many hours in traffic (most of your day). Get on dating sites for day girls or go hang at malls.
Very rarely are there FLs hanging around Havana during the daytime hours. At best it's a onsey-twosey type of thing, and the ones I've seen in the sunlight aren't attractive. While the sun is up one has two viable choices, LAC or Burgos, and some bars in Burgos offer the happy-hour discount in the afternoon. Mall wandering is a waste of time, though if one is determined to do so it's best to spend your time at Harrison Plaza or Robinson's. Dating sites offer the best bang for the buck since you have hundreds if not thousands of options that you can contact prior to arrival and arrange to meet.

For a bloke who's here for a day (Jstlookin, the OP) these are the 4 options one has for metro Manila.

1) Closest to NAIA is Resorts World Casino that has 3 hotels. If you have arranged to meet girls from dating sites I'd stay here. There are FLs who hang out at the casino. Nearby you also have a couple of KTVs with massage parlour - look up Air Force 1. Potential downsides: A) Dating site girl no shows. B) KTVs are expensive. C) Far from all the well-known bar and FL areas.

2) Next nearest to NAIA is EDSA Entertainment Complex in Pasay. Nothing happening in the afternoon. By taxi you're not too far away from Harrison Plaza to hunt for afternoon FLs, but the commute on Roxas Blvd could be very slow. Stay at the Victoria Court rather than Heritage. Try to get a dating site girl for the afternoon. Good looking girls at EDSA. Potential downsides: A) Dating-site girl no shows. B) Nothing to your liking at Harrison. C) EDSA is expensive. Note: you could stay near Harrison Plaza and then choose between LA Cafe or EDSA for night action.

3) Next nearest is Burgos (take the skyway). Plenty of hotels in the immediate area. Girls available in the afternoon. A lot a girls are attractive. Not too far from Havana for night time hook up or just stay at Burgos. Some FLs at the Bellagio Hotel's restaurant, but watch out for ladyboys there. Potential downsides: A) Burgos bar fine is expensive. You may be able to find an afternoon happy-hour discount at some bars. B) Traffic from / to NAIA.

4) Ermita. Due to the congestion at the Manila port Roxas Blvd is doing its best to resemble a parking lot; your commute from NAIA to Ermita could be a very slow one. LAC is pretty much your only viable option for daytime FLs; night-time crowd is better. Read the FRs and you'll find opinions on their attractiveness. Plenty of hotels in the area. Robinson's Mall for the wandering. Potential downsides: A) Unattractive girls at LAC. B) Traffic from NAIA to Ermita. C) Nothing to your liking at Robinson's.

Pick one.

If you have time before your arrival test the dating-site waters; if you are getting a lot of attention, i.e. the girls are initiating contact and are eager to meet, then I'd pursue that course. Make sure you are clear in your communication what you expect and where you expect to meet - it ought to be at your hotel. Skype/ym/videochat with them beforehand to verify attractiveness and genuine gender.

Jstlookin
09-11-14, 18:39
Verify attractiveness and genuine gender!!!LMFAO.

Thanks a billion to all who took the time and energy to answer my queries. I guess victoria's as EDSA is going to be my choice. I have a flight at 6 am. So I would probably need to leave the hotel at 3 or 2, not worth sleeping the night. Rather sleep through the day and get my beer and verified gender / attractiveness fine ladies in the evening at EDSA. Someone here mentioned the 2 hr routine, sounds prudent.

Now if can't cross that dreaded bridge with those little pickpocketing bastards. How am I to get across the street? I know I will figure it out when I get there but I am elucidating some more fantastic replies and info.

Many talk about dating websites. Any particular one??

Regards

Nolz7
09-11-14, 21:55
Hey all,

D) there don't seem to be many real massage places.

Thanks in advance.Oh there are bunch of them. Although not necessarily a fancy place. The service can be excellent. Based on my experience. A good technique really depends on the person that is doing it and not because they work for a certain place. For example, I went to TonTon massage. The service was rush the first time I went. There was not enough pressure the second time I went. But I went to Tonton in Cebu and the service was excellent. There is an Asian massage in Ermita and there is another one in front of Robinson mall. The cost in Asian Mansion is 300 full body massage. The one near Robinson mall doubles the price as it is frequented mostly by Japanese. (Go figure!) There are a lot of small places around Ermita. Some hair salon would offer some type of massage. Evershine Salon is rumoured to have an extra service on the second floor. enjoy The Philippines!

Hutsori
09-12-14, 01:38
LMFAO.

Thanks a billion to all who took the time and energy to answer my queries. I guess victoria's as EDSA is going to be my choice. I have a flight at 6 am. So I would probably need to leave the hotel at 3 or 2, not worth sleeping the night. Rather sleep through the day and get my beer and verified gender / attractiveness fine ladies in the evening at EDSA. Someone here mentioned the 2 hr routine, sounds prudent.

Now if can't cross that dreaded bridge with those little pickpocketing bastards. How am I to get across the street? I know I will figure it out when I get there but I am elucidating some more fantastic replies and info.

Many talk about dating websites. Any particular one??

RegardsAssuming international flight, so for a 6 am departure you'll want to be at the terminal 2 hours before. The traffic is 330 am is light.

For dating sites I think filipinocupid is the best. It is a paid site, which is like kryptonite to keyboard harassers in mom's basement, Filipino trike drivers, and Nigerian scammers. As you're here for a day the cost-benefit analysis of a one-month membership suggests it's a bad investment; I've met so many great girls from FC that I'd pay the 1-month fee for a day's use and arrange 3 or 4 meetings. If you don't want to pay read the Chatrooms and Penpal section here.

Enjoy your stay. And post an informative FR afterward.

Amavida
09-12-14, 03:56
Now if can't cross that dreaded bridge with those little pickpocketing bastards. How am I to get across the street? I know I will figure it out when I get there but I am elucidating some more fantastic replies and info.

Many talk about dating websites. Any particular one??

RegardsDon't sweat the pedestrian overpass. Just use common sense & stay alert the same as anywhere.

Dating sites?

Date in Asia: Free, huge membership, very strict naughty talk filters. Always fodder there. Work it.

Pina Love: Pay site, big membership, signal to noise ratio better, worth it.

Filipino Cupid: As for Pina Love.

There are many others but that will keep you very busy.

AV.

X Man
09-12-14, 09:29
WIth a flight that early, I personally target a one- hour advance arrival time. I did have a taxi driver try to take the long route in order to avoid "trapic", idiot. Some of these guys are on scam autopilot. Roxas was completely empty but he wanted to take detour to avoid traffic. Manila is not a friendly place for the newcomer. They will eat you alive if you show any weakness.


Assuming international flight, so for a 6 am departure you'll want to be at the terminal 2 hours before. The traffic is 330 am is light.

For dating sites I think filipinocupid is the best. It is a paid site, which is like kryptonite to keyboard harassers in mom's basement, Filipino trike drivers, and Nigerian scammers. As you're here for a day the cost-benefit analysis of a one-month membership suggests it's a bad investment; I've met so many great girls from FC that I'd pay the 1-month fee for a day's use and arrange 3 or 4 meetings. If you don't want to pay read the Chatrooms and Penpal section here.

Enjoy your stay. And post an informative FR afterward.

Sock111
09-13-14, 06:51
Thank you all for the info and reports. I arrived in Manila last night and had fun at LA Cafe. Didn't realize the upstairs charged 100 pesos for entry for the live band.

Tonight I'm going to check out EDSA. If anyone would like to meet up drop me a PM.

Member #4387
09-13-14, 08:48
Thank you all for the info and reports. I arrived in Manila last night and had fun at LA Cafe. Didn't realize the upstairs charged 100 pesos for entry for the live band.

Tonight I'm going to check out EDSA. If anyone would like to meet up drop me a PM.Just add in some intel on the covers you were charged: sometimes it can be 200 piso as well. I guess they increase / decrease pricings after volum of people present, quality of the bands etc. A few years back when I was a frequent user of the LAC prices tended to vary from 0 to 250 piso for an excursion upstairs.

I found the waitresses upstairs to be better looking than the downstair ones (could be just a coincident ofcourse) and yes they are available for takeouts as well.

Sock111
09-13-14, 10:35
All of a sudden its windy and I can expect heavy rain.

X Man
09-13-14, 12:06
Good observation. I've observed the same thing regarding the fee. Often the female customers are better looking also.


Just add in some intel on the covers you were charged: sometimes it can be 200 piso as well. I guess they increase / decrease pricings after volum of people present, quality of the bands etc. A few years back when I was a frequent user of the LAC prices tended to vary from 0 to 250 piso for an excursion upstairs.

I found the waitresses upstairs to be better looking than the downstair ones (could be just a coincident ofcourse) and yes they are available for takeouts as well.

Slippery
09-13-14, 21:42
All of a sudden its windy and I can expect heavy rain.Be glad you're not in Baguio. They're supposed to get 3 feet of it. That's not 3 feet of flooding either. Its 3 feet of rain.

Sock111
09-13-14, 22:01
So I went to check out EDSA tonight and have to say I'm not impressed. I heard it compared to Nana plaza but its much smaller. Now I went at 11:00 pm. Guess that was a big mistake. By the time I got there every bar only had between 4-6 girls on stage.

One observation was that every club except Cotton club pushed for those double lady drinks. Its deceptive advertising cause the little signs on the table say 395, but doesn't tell you its a double.

Lesson learned, its best to go around 9:00 pm for the best selection.

Robbaf
09-14-14, 01:19
All of a sudden its windy and I can expect heavy rain.Not latest map. But it is coming.

Soapy Smith
09-14-14, 07:49
From time to time there have been reports here about cops setting up bogus stings in order to take money from unsuspecting mongers. I presume that these events are relatively rare. Given the size of the city and the occasional bribe-taking incident by police, the odds of one of us being hit are probably fairly low. But this news story gives a disconcerting sense of how the graft operates. This incident, and probably many others, are not the work of a single rogue cop who takes advantage of an isolated motorist. This activity is well organized. That means there is a culture among the police that accepts much of it and that there is a network structure that provides cover to other cops. In this instance it seems likely that there was advance intelligence work providing the information that the men in question were carrying a wad of dough. These are not rogues; this is a system, and the editorial writers acknowledge as much. Unfortunately the account in this editorial belies the editorial's title.

http://opinion.inquirer.net/78408/rogue-cops-on-edsa

OsakaGin11
09-16-14, 03:46
The guards don't really check. I have always breezed right past them and out onto the departures taxi ramp. They only check folks getting *into* the airport. Take the lifts at the left end of the arrivals floor (as you exits customs) and go to floor 2.That's exactly what I do. I take the lift up to the departures floor and go to the departures taxi ramp by taking the furthest exit from the lifts and make sure you get in a taxi and uses a meter. If the driver claims that the meter doesn't work, get out and get another taxi.

Econo Tech
09-17-14, 05:28
Be glad you're not in Baguio. They're supposed to get 3 feet of it. That's not 3 feet of flooding either. Its 3 feet of rain.If not the floods in the place I am in Baguio, the howling winds kept me terrified for a the night and then the next day.

Luckily it is sunny skies since yesterday in Baguio.


Not latest map. But it is coming.Then another one is heading to Visayas. As of today.

Econo Tech
09-17-14, 05:46
From time to time there have been reports here about cops setting up bogus stings in order to take money from unsuspecting mongers. I presume that these events are relatively rare. Given the size of the city and the occasional bribe-taking incident by police, the odds of one of us being hit are probably fairly low. But this news story gives a disconcerting sense of how the graft operates. This incident, and probably many others, are not the work of a single rogue cop who takes advantage of an isolated motorist. This activity is well organized. That means there is a culture among the police that accepts much of it and that there is a network structure that provides cover to other cops. In this instance it seems likely that there was advance intelligence work providing the information that the men in question were carrying a wad of dough. These are not rogues; this is a system, and the editorial writers acknowledge as much. Unfortunately the account in this editorial belies the editorial's title.

http://opinion.inquirer.net/78408/rogue-cops-on-edsaAnyway, the law in Philippines means nobody will get punished.

The recent joke I heard. The Coast Guard fellows caught on camera, grinning and laughing while shooting at a Taiwan fishing vessel, and ended up killing a sailor in the Taiwan boat, recently asked the court to dismiss the case.

Reason? 'we don't believe anybody died, and there is no proof the person who is supposed to have died really died, so we ask the case be dismissed and all charges be dropped'.

No kidding.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/110075/coast-guard-staff-in-balintang-channel-shooting-seek-dismissal-of-homicide-raps

Dg8787
09-20-14, 13:49
Was going to take Victory Liner bus from Dau to Pasay yesterday morning but the hotel doorman told me the roads were closed and massive flooding in Manila. Today, Saturday, I decided to take a car service to Manila as I had heard there was still flooding around Pasay. I didn't want to risk missing my flight. Supposedly less Manila traffic on Saturday but being the side roads flooded everyone is on the main roads. Left AC at 4:30 pm and arrived at terminal 1 at 7:36 pm without any stops. 3 hours. At least no waiting at terminal 1. Breezed thru departure tax line, passport control and security in 3 minutes. Terminal 1 is like a ghost town!

Slippery
09-21-14, 13:59
Having lived here for awhile now, I thought I'd seen plenty of utterly shitty business practices until I stopped into LA Cafe yesterday for a beer. I was the only white guy in there at about 3:30 pm A couple of Japanese guys and a couple of other guys, who knows where from. I sat at the bar with my back toward the entrance. Typical scenario unfolds where girl comes and sits next to me. She has a bottled water. Next thing I know some filipino employee of LA A $$holes Cafe and seats himself about 8 feet away at a table. Two of his ugly friends seat themselves at the same table and I'm getting holes stared through me. Girl starts making small talk and I politely but succinctly respond.

Waitress comes with my beer and asks if I want to buy the girl a drink. I think when did AC make it to this place. One minute later she returns and asks if I'd like to buy the girl a drink. I told her that I said no a minute ago. She comes a 3rd fucking time in 3 minutes and asks again. Now I realize that somebody else from Shit Cafe has moved in behind me. I wasn't very nice to the waitress for bothering me about buying some working girl a drink 3 times in 3 minutes. I had paid for my beer when I got it. I got up to leave and told the filipino guy behind me what I thought about lady drink pressure. I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Last time I spend a penny at that shithole.

OsakaGin11
09-21-14, 16:08
Don't sweat the pedestrian overpass. Just use common sense & stay alert the same as anywhere.

Dating sites?

Date in Asia: Free, huge membership, very strict naughty talk filters. Always fodder there. Work it.

Pina Love: Pay site, big membership, signal to noise ratio better, worth it.

Filipino Cupid: As for Pina Love.

There are many others but that will keep you very busy.

AV.For what's its worth I am a big fan of Tagged for lining up dates in the Philippines before you get there, and to be honest I have had a fair amount of success using that site. One warning though, just don't send anyone any money, despite how sad their sob story is!

WestCoast1
09-21-14, 16:56
Waitress comes with my beer and asks if I want to buy the girl a drink. I think when did AC make it to this place. One minute later she returns and asks if I'd like to buy the girl a drink. I told her that I said no a minute ago. She comes a 3rd fucking time in 3 minutes and asks again. Now I realize that somebody else from Shit Cafe has moved in behind me. I wasn't very nice to the waitress for bothering me about buying some working girl a drink 3 times in 3 minutes. I had paid for my beer when I got it. I got up to leave and told the filipino guy behind me what I thought about lady drink pressure. I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Last time I spend a penny at that shithole.I got hit by the waitresses in LAC in July and January this year, and August of 2013 for at attempted purchase of LD. They did not pressure by re-asking more than once, but they still asked. One girl explained to me that all girls walking in the door must purchase at least one drink during her stay (call it the lady's barfine), and they often try and get the guys to buy them a drink right away, or the waitresses make the attempt. Sounds like they are upping the pressure. OTOH recently I was in the bar at other times where nobody asked me to buy the girl a drink (possibly she had already purchased one earlier in the day).

Pip Jaeger
09-21-14, 21:50
SNIP I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Although I don't recall it being discussed here recently, that policy has been in effect for at least a year. Not trying to defend it, just saying. However, many girls will meet you outside a block or so away to avoid it as they would rather hope you give then a bigger tip then give it to the bar. The last I heard the girls don't get any type of commission from the LD's.

Radical Guy
09-22-14, 10:24
Has anyone used the Uber app to get rides in Manila, instead of regular taxis? If so, how was your experience?

RG.