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Wicked Roger
09-22-14, 11:53
Has anyone used the Uber app to get rides in Manila, instead of regular taxis? If so, how was your experience?

RG.GE did an FR on this a few weeks back. He said it was fine but others I know who use say is variable service depends on the day and time it appears.

Slippery
09-22-14, 12:32
Although I don't recall it being discussed here recently, that policy has been in effect for at least a year. Not trying to defend it, just saying. However, many girls will meet you outside a block or so away to avoid it as they would rather hope you give then a bigger tip then give it to the bar. The last I heard the girls don't get any type of commission from the LD's.I had no intention of taking a girl. Just stopped in for a beer. Sure, I know they might approach a gwapo soon to be grandfather like me. It was the waitress driving me out of there with management well within hearing distance from two sides. Not a good business plan there.

KongKing
09-22-14, 14:20
Has anyone used the Uber app to get rides in Manila, instead of regular taxis? If so, how was your experience?

RG.I could say RTFF but Goodenough reported on his use of the Uber App a month ago in this very forum. See: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1007-Manila&p=1610744&viewfull=1#post1610744.

X Man
09-22-14, 15:04
I've never had anything like that happen, maybe it was just a few employees getting creative on a slow afternoon. You can't really expect the best of service in a 3rd world bordello.

Like you, I pay as I go. That way I can get up and move about. Sometimes I'm moving away from a persistent, but fugly gal, other times hunting for that diamond in the rough who might be sitting quietly in a corner nursing her SM light.

I rarely sit at the bar. I try to face the door / doors / entrances / restrooms on order to achieve optimum bird watching. Shithole? Can't disagree with that.


Having lived here for awhile now, I thought I'd seen plenty of utterly shitty business practices until I stopped into LA Cafe yesterday for a beer. I was the only white guy in there at about 3:30 pm A couple of Japanese guys and a couple of other guys, who knows where from. I sat at the bar with my back toward the entrance. Typical scenario unfolds where girl comes and sits next to me. She has a bottled water. Next thing I know some filipino employee of LA A $$holes Cafe and seats himself about 8 feet away at a table. Two of his ugly friends seat themselves at the same table and I'm getting holes stared through me. Girl starts making small talk and I politely but succinctly respond.

Waitress comes with my beer and asks if I want to buy the girl a drink. I think when did AC make it to this place. One minute later she returns and asks if I'd like to buy the girl a drink. I told her that I said no a minute ago. She comes a 3rd fucking time in 3 minutes and asks again. Now I realize that somebody else from Shit Cafe has moved in behind me. I wasn't very nice to the waitress for bothering me about buying some working girl a drink 3 times in 3 minutes. I had paid for my beer when I got it. I got up to leave and told the filipino guy behind me what I thought about lady drink pressure. I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Last time I spend a penny at that shithole.

Asian Rain
09-22-14, 17:42
Having lived here for awhile now, I thought I'd seen plenty of utterly shitty business practices until I stopped into LA Cafe yesterday for a beer. I was the only white guy in there at about 3:30 pm A couple of Japanese guys and a couple of other guys, who knows where from. I sat at the bar with my back toward the entrance. Typical scenario unfolds where girl comes and sits next to me. She has a bottled water. Next thing I know some filipino employee of LA A $$holes Cafe and seats himself about 8 feet away at a table. Two of his ugly friends seat themselves at the same table and I'm getting holes stared through me. Girl starts making small talk and I politely but succinctly respond.

Waitress comes with my beer and asks if I want to buy the girl a drink. I think when did AC make it to this place. One minute later she returns and asks if I'd like to buy the girl a drink. I told her that I said no a minute ago. She comes a 3rd fucking time in 3 minutes and asks again. Now I realize that somebody else from Shit Cafe has moved in behind me. I wasn't very nice to the waitress for bothering me about buying some working girl a drink 3 times in 3 minutes. I had paid for my beer when I got it. I got up to leave and told the filipino guy behind me what I thought about lady drink pressure. I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Last time I spend a penny at that shithole.Having lived here a while, I am surprised to see you holding any expectations for LAC. Since its decline, the owners have been searching for models to monetize. The 4 times I have been there in the past 3 years I have gone away with a girl once. And that was nothing special compared to the sweet niblets that used to ply their trade.

Anyway, it seems that management tired of girls that just came in to sit and wait aimlessly for customers without purchasing. Same for some of the guys who have been known to come in, scout out a girl, and then leave without buying a drink themselves. Given the current state, I can't blame the management for making an attempt to make some money. What was the price of the drink anyway? P100? P200? Did you let that get between you and the girl? Enjoy, AR.

Amavida
09-23-14, 01:04
Although I don't recall it being discussed here recently, that policy has been in effect for at least a year. Not trying to defend it, just saying. However, many girls will meet you outside a block or so away to avoid it as they would rather hope you give then a bigger tip then give it to the bar. The last I heard the girls don't get any type of commission from the LD's.Correct. During its heyday girls perched on stools, sometimes with a drink, guys went in there & bought a drink, chatted up providers & went out to their hotels to complete the transaction. It had a reputation that attracted revellers & party'ers. Everybody was happy. Then the raids & closurers. East Asians moved in & drove out average mongers. The place never really recovered. Meanwhile unregulated sex has gone main stream. Stand outside the casino or robinsons, get on dating sites. Low mileage non pro's (& semi pro's) are everywhere these days.

AV.

Cbea20
09-23-14, 02:41
Part of the problem is that the girl joined you to sit at the bar. Taking a seat at the bar, they want to see a drink purchase, more than sitting at a table. As to buying a drink if you leave with a girl, that's easy to evade. Leave separately, and ask the girl for a nearby location to meet. And they want a standard payment of P350 for a "lady's drink".


Having lived here for awhile now, I thought I'd seen plenty of utterly shitty business practices until I stopped into LA Cafe yesterday for a beer. I was the only white guy in there at about 3:30 pm A couple of Japanese guys and a couple of other guys, who knows where from. I sat at the bar with my back toward the entrance. Typical scenario unfolds where girl comes and sits next to me. She has a bottled water. Next thing I know some filipino employee of LA A $$holes Cafe and seats himself about 8 feet away at a table. Two of his ugly friends seat themselves at the same table and I'm getting holes stared through me. Girl starts making small talk and I politely but succinctly respond.

Waitress comes with my beer and asks if I want to buy the girl a drink. I think when did AC make it to this place. One minute later she returns and asks if I'd like to buy the girl a drink. I told her that I said no a minute ago. She comes a 3rd fucking time in 3 minutes and asks again. Now I realize that somebody else from Shit Cafe has moved in behind me. I wasn't very nice to the waitress for bothering me about buying some working girl a drink 3 times in 3 minutes. I had paid for my beer when I got it. I got up to leave and told the filipino guy behind me what I thought about lady drink pressure. I was told the girl is not permitted to leave with a customer unless customer buys her a drink. WTF?? Last time I spend a penny at that shithole.

Hutsori
09-23-14, 06:15
Taking a seat at the bar, they want to see a drink purchase...There's always been a requirement that a girl, as a customer in her own right, purchase a drink. This is why you see them nursing a bottle of water. It has the LAC / MBC label on it to stop outside bottles coming in. Sure, some will sit there as long as possible without buying one, and on a busy night a waitress has more lucrative customers to attended to. I recall this guy-must-buy requirement was reported in an FR 8 to 12 months ago. I suspect the girl hadn't purchased her own drink yet and so the waitress was coming in for the assist. Or maybe it's just a gambit to drive sales. I rarely go to the place, but when I've been there no one has said a word about this. I always buy a bottle of rum or vodka and I invite whoever plops her butt at my table to join me. I'm not discriminating whom I drink with. Sure, the waitress has encouraged me to buy a p300 mango shake, but you can decide what to buy her... or not buy her. Up to you.

Slippery
09-23-14, 07:38
I didn't say that I invited her to come over. Usually when I go in there, I sit next to a waitress station to preclude some ho from sitting on at least one side of me. What I did say was that she had a bottle of water. Perhaps I wasn't clear in saying she brought it over with her. I don't know where it was purchased from and I don't care because after being treated like that, there are plenty of other alternatives to stop for a beer at when I'm out walking. LAC can kiss my white ass.

Radical Guy
09-23-14, 08:55
Meanwhile unregulated sex has gone main stream. Stand outside the casino or robinsons, get on dating sites. Low mileage non pro's (& semi pro's) are everywhere these days.

AV.I will be arriving in Manila tonight at 9 pm, which means I can be in Ermita around 11 pm. Aside from LAC, where's the best place around Ermita to pickup a "low mileage" non-pro or semi-pro at that time of night? It seems that Robinsons would be closed then. What casino are you talking about?

RG.

Poolmover
09-23-14, 10:26
Probably the Hyatt. Also the mall is one block away, and LAC is not far. I confirm the approach, just stand outside on pedro gil. But better is websites for dating.

Pm.


I will be arriving in Manila tonight at 9 pm, which means I can be in Ermita around 11 pm. Aside from LAC, where's the best place around Ermita to pickup a "low mileage" non-pro or semi-pro at that time of night? It seems that Robinsons would be closed then. What casino are you talking about?





RG.

Pip Jaeger
09-23-14, 12:57
I will be arriving in Manila tonight at 9 pm, which means I can be in Ermita around 11 pm. Aside from LAC, SNIPIf there's nothing to your liking at LAC or the immediate area then maybe try heading to one of the nearby casa's.

Escort Fan
09-26-14, 18:50
Anyone knows where it's possible to score high end girls in MNL regardless of the price.

I've been to the same places we've all been, La Café, Burgos, Malate, Havana café, etc.

But I did I ever score a model type in MNL? The answer is sadly no.

I mean the last time I was there, I was staying at Solaire Casino.

Anyone who has been there knows that model type girls greet you when you come in.

Those girls are pretty much model type. Those are the type of girls I want to book.

So when I took my taxi to go to nearby EDSA it was a bit brutal to go down from 8-9 girls at Solaire to 4-6 at best girls at EDSA.

Member #4387
09-27-14, 03:33
Anyone knows where it's possible to score high end girls in MNL regardless of the price.

I've been to the same places we've all been, La Caf, Burgos, Malate, Havana caf, etc.

But I did I ever score a model type in MNL? The answer is sadly no.

I mean the last time I was there, I was staying at Solaire Casino.

Anyone who has been there knows that model type girls greet you when you come in.

Those girls are pretty much model type. Those are the type of girls I want to book.

So when I took my taxi to go to nearby EDSA it was a bit brutal to go down from 8-9 girls at Solaire to 4-6 at best girls at EDSA.Gramercy71 Makati and Prive The Fort have model and celebrity girls but these are normal night clubs where the rich and famous hangs out so depends on your game. Not bookable, hehe.

Spidy
09-27-14, 07:17
Although I don't recall it being discussed here recently, that policy has been in effect for at least a year. Not trying to defend it, just saying. However, many girls will meet you outside a block or so away to avoid it as they would rather hope you give then a bigger tip then give it to the bar. The last I heard the girls don't get any type of commission from the LD's. So that's what that was, now I get it!!! Funny thing, I had one girl say this to me "...I'll meet you at the Arab Restaurant across the street in 2 minutes... ", after we made the deal and I basically was thinking "....WTF am I that fugly, she doesn't want her friends to see her leaving with me. " LOL!!! THANKS FOR CLEARING THAT UP PIP J.

MeteorMan
09-30-14, 22:26
Should I carry my passport on me at all times?

Is it better to exchange dollars to pesos or just withdraw from ATMs?

Is November / December peak international tourist season?

In Manila should I pay before service or after?

In regards to girls, should I have them come to my room, or should I get a hotel generally for all my mongering needs? Which is safer?

Should I bring an separate cheap phone just for mongering?

Dg8787
10-01-14, 03:11
Should I carry my passport on me at all times?

Is it better to exchange dollars to pesos or just withdraw from ATMs?

Is November / December peak international tourist season?

In Manila should I pay before service or after?

In regards to girls, should I have them come to my room, or should I get a hotel generally for all my mongering needs? Which is safer?

Should I bring an separate cheap phone just for mongering?Answers are all there.

Hutsori
10-01-14, 04:49
Anyone knows where it's possible to score high end girls in MNL regardless of the price.
Several months back I posted a link to a good escort site in the Escorts section of this forum - just so I don't get flamed again I have NO RELATIONSHIP whatsoever with that site. There are a few high-end p10,000+ escorts listed there. I'll leave it up to you to determine whether they are "model" quality or not. Read my post because some unusual jargon is used on that site.

WestCoast1
10-01-14, 06:21
Should I carry my passport on me at all times?

Is it better to exchange dollars to pesos or just withdraw from ATMs?

Is November / December peak international tourist season?

In Manila should I pay before service or after?

In regards to girls, should I have them come to my room, or should I get a hotel generally for all my mongering needs? Which is safer?

Should I bring an separate cheap phone just for mongering?Here we go again. Failure to RTTF. Not a regular member and asking question. Its tempting to PM you some of those answers, but you don't have PM (at this time).

Pip Jaeger
10-01-14, 10:05
Here we go again. Failure to RTTF. Not a regular member and asking question. Its tempting to PM you some of those answers, but you don't have PM (at this time).To a point I agree you and DG, with a bit of research here then the answers can be found except perhaps for the passport thing; I only recall an issue similar to OP's question being mentioned in the AC thread a while back when the talk was about white guys who got caught up in bar raids and the po po asked them for ID. So, not just for MM's sake, but for other newb's as well (and for future RTFF reference):


Should I carry my passport on me at all times?Neither is it required nor advised to carry your passport when you're out and about, but I would make a copy of it and carry that instead. In addition, you may want to write your ICE (In Case of Emergency) info on the back too.

Kaywhy
10-01-14, 14:34
Should I carry my passport on me at all times?

Is it better to exchange dollars to pesos or just withdraw from ATMs?

Is November / December peak international tourist season?

In Manila should I pay before service or after?

In regards to girls, should I have them come to my room, or should I get a hotel generally for all my mongering needs? Which is safer?

Should I bring an separate cheap phone just for mongering?We were all newbies once. Never carry your passport with you, like the other poster said, have a copy on hand. You typically get better rates by withdrawing from an ATM. While not asked, I found Capital One's credit card to give me the best FX rates when charging in local CCV. I could be wrong, but CL posters have asked for payment in advance, while all others seem to be OK with after. Perhaps just my experience. It's up to you whether you bring them up. You just don't want to be caught with coworkers nearby, etc. I've always had an unlocked phone just for the Phils.

MeteorMan
10-01-14, 15:53
We were all newbies once. Never carry your passport with you, like the other poster said, have a copy on hand. You typically get better rates by withdrawing from an ATM. While not asked, I found Capital One's credit card to give me the best FX rates when charging in local CCV. I could be wrong, but CL posters have asked for payment in advance, while all others seem to be OK with after. Perhaps just my experience. It's up to you whether you bring them up. You just don't want to be caught with coworkers nearby, etc. I've always had an unlocked phone just for the Phils.Thanks so much for the answers, I just have these final questions:

Is there a better site for short term monthly rentals than airbnb, I find them quite expensive.

In regards to getting caught with coworkers nearby, what do you mean. Do most Filipinas frown upon bringing pros to rooms or is it something else?

Is xanax and valium available without a prescription in most pharmacies?

How much are Gyms generally in Manila?

What does RTFF mean?

Final question: Would banging Pros be a negative when it comes to dating regular girls in the Phils. I mean is Manila small enough where everybody is connected in everybody business?

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: There is a link labeled "Abbreviations" in the menu bar at the top of this page. This will take you to the Forum's Glossary where you will find a chart with most of the Terms & Abbreviations used in the Forum. Thanks!

Radical Guy
10-02-14, 03:26
To a point I agree you and DG, with a bit of research here then the answers can be found except perhaps for the passport thing; I only recall an issue similar to OP's question being mentioned in the AC thread a while back when the talk was about white guys who got caught up in bar raids and the po po asked them for ID. So, not just for MM's sake, but for other newb's as well (and for future RTFF reference):

Neither is it required nor advised to carry your passport when you're out and about, but I would make a copy of it and carry that instead. In addition, you may want to write your ICE (In Case of Emergency) info on the back too.I agree that you should not carry around your passport on your person. However, it is wise to make a photocopy of your passport and keep it somewhere separate from your passport in the event your original passport is lost or stolen. Additionally, I obtained a USA Passport card, which I keep with me. Although it isn't valid for travel to or from the Philippines, it does contain necessary information to identify you in the event of some emergency.

RG.

Amavida
10-02-14, 03:33
i agree that you should not carry around your passport on your person. however, it is wise to make a photocopy of your passport and keep it somewhere separate from your passport in the event your original passport is lost or stolen. additionally, i obtained a usa passport card, which i keep with me. although it isn't valid for travel to or from the philippines, it does contain necessary information to identify you in the event of some emergency.

rg.likewise if you're going to be driving here. photocopy your dl & leave the original locked away safe. mmda cockroaches just love to confirep001e your dl forcing a costly bribe or time wasting trip to city hall to go retrieve it.

av.

Soapy Smith
10-02-14, 12:40
is there a better site for short term monthly rentals than airbnb, i find them quite expensive.

in regards to getting caught with coworkers nearby, what do you mean. do most filipinas frown upon bringing pros to rooms or is it something else?

is xanax and valium available without a prescription in most pharmacies?

how much are gyms generally in manila?

what does rtff mean?

final question: would banging pros be a negative when it comes to dating regular girls in the phils. i mean is manila small enough where everybody is connected in everybody business?

editor's suggestion: there is a link labeled "abbreviations" in the menu bar at the top of this page. this will take you to the forum's glossary where you will find a chart with most of the terms & abbreviations used in the forum. thanks!mm, most long time forum members would like to see you pay the $19.95 for a membership. you've already asked a lot of questions and members have been accommodating, given that you're a newbie. but if you can't see it in any other way, consider how the membership carries with it the ability to send and receive private messages from other members. many of our well-informed members prefer to convey useful information out of public view, and i think you'll find this pays off quickly.

by now you know that rtff means to read the ffing forum. answers to most of the questions you ask have been answered already somewhere in the forum.

to most folks manila refers to the greater metro manila area (officially named national capital region or ncr). it is a large, extended urban area of 16 cities and one municipality (lacking sufficient population to qualify to be a city). population estimates run from between 12 million to 20 million. generally speaking, it is not a small area in which most people know each other's business.

that having been said, some of the areas where pay for plays (p4 p) are most easily found do overlap with business areas where you may run into business associates. if you come entirely for recreation, then no problem. but those of us who come to manila for business and like some horizontal recreation on the side figure out strategies for separating our private and public lives. my strategy is to stay in three and four star hotels in areas that are just inconvenient or unattractive enough that my american and filipino professional associates avoid them.

some of the long-time expats make connections using online venues, agree to meet their entertainment in neutral areas out of sight from business associates, and then employ a hot-sheet hotel for a few hours. sogo, eurotel, and victoria court are names that have hotels rep001tered around the metro area, and they all maintain websites. they often rent for increments of 3, 6, 12, or 24 hours. their employees have no misconceptions about the reasons that older patrons with young filipinas are coming and going for short hotel stays. their rooms are small, usually lack windows, but have ac that works, foam bed mattresses, reliable hot and cold showers, and probably change the bedding between customers.

the philippines is a country with pronounced class distinctions based on money, educational attainment, and family heritage. most of us who conduct business here rub elbows with folks from the higher social strata, and those folks do not formally approve of recreational mingling with the lower classes, from which many of our bed partners originate--even though in private many from the middle and upper classes are also engaged in recreational sex outside their marriages. but the bottom line is that sexual values in the philippines are among the most conservative in the world; they are based on traditional catholic values that european catholics discarded decades ago. there are numerous examples of prominent filipino politicians and show business personalities who are conspicuous womanizers, but, if you anticipate mingling with filipino business associates, you should plan a "self-presentation" geared to conservative philippine values. when they get really comfortable with you your local business associates might start inviting you to their "under the radar" retreats.

i concur with many who have advised carrying a copy of the photo and id pages of your passport, and then keep the passport locked up at your hotel. i carry a "money belt" slung from my neck, under my right arm, and between my outer shirt and undershirt. this means having to wear shirts that are not tucked in, but i can keep a few larger bills in it, an atm and credit card, and the passport copy.

many medications can be purchased without prescription in philippine drug stores. i have found it helps to have the prescription written out, including dosage, on a separate piece of paper (and spelled correctly). often you will stand in line to get waited on at the prescription counter, and having the prescription on paper avoids having to announce it loudly. you may or may not have luck getting some of the pain medications, but if one drug store chain won't sell to you, try another. in my experience mercury drugs is most likely to ask for for a prescription and generic and star drugs less so. others may have different experiences.

you will need to ask some of the expats about gyms and rentals, but there has been considerable discussion about rentals, both in this thread and the hotels thread.

Pip Jaeger
10-02-14, 13:33
MM, most long time forum members would like to see you pay the $19.95 for a membership. You've already asked a lot of questions and members have been accommodating, given that you're a newbie. SNIP You will need to ask some of the expats about gyms and rentals, but there has been considerable discussion about rentals, both in this thread and the hotels thread.Excellent and informative report Skip, I put a link to it in ROD.

Only wanted to add that many hotels have gyms / fitness centers too, even some of the 1 and 2 star ones.

Cool Traveler
10-02-14, 21:44
Yes, you are right. US passport card is not valid, unless you are making land border crossings. Even then, I think they are only valid between US-Canada, US-Mexico. Only other exception is, I think you can use it to go back and forth to the Caribbean.

Leave the passport at the hotel. I was stopped by a cop once, and I showed him my California drivers licence. Told him my passport is at the hotel. HE asked which hotel, and when I responded Intercon. HE let me go. But years of traveling through Phillpines, never really needed it.

When I try to change currency, I am always standing in a long line. I started using ATMs, and that has worked out really well. I think the rates are better.

CT


I agree that you should not carry around your passport on your person. However, it is wise to make a photocopy of your passport and keep it somewhere separate from your passport in the event your original passport is lost or stolen. Additionally, I obtained a USA Passport card, which I keep with me. Although it isn't valid for travel to or from the Philippines, it does contain necessary information to identify you in the event of some emergency.

RG.

Wicked Roger
10-03-14, 03:58
Here we go again. Failure to RTTF. Not a regular member and asking question. Its tempting to PM you some of those answers, but you don't have PM (at this time).Good point.

Also FR history is questions lonely in San Domingo and Thailand. Some of us are more helpful Westie than others are as really every question is RTFF answerable. On the UAE forum they call MM 'manager class'.

And not paid $20 for a sub and still asking.

MM pay up as once you do and FR your experiences you will find this a wealth of information (give and take. RTFF that and you will me, Westie and others FR on that subject).

Amavida
10-03-14, 04:45
Is there a better site for short term monthly rentals than airbnb, I find them quite expensive.Not really, Trip Advisor is another good site but all the properties advertised are in the upper price range. Local real Estate agents can be helpful. My advise is get a decent hotel for a few days & look around locally once you have arrived. Depends upon what you mean by short term? Less than two weeks not worth the effort.


Is xanax and valium available without a prescription in most pharmacies?Narcotics are right out & benzo's are very difficult (caveat, I'm not a user, just going on observation). Bring a presciption & go see a local doc for a script.


Final question: Would banging Pros be a negative when it comes to dating regular girls in the Phils. I mean is Manila small enough where everybody is connected in everybody business?Dude its a huge very crowded conurbation. Having said that keep in mind that Pinoys are HUGE gossips. If you have a conga line of pro's to / from your room & then want to bring a straight girl there, keep in mind she WILL find out LOL! Use common sense.

AV.

Jp Slicky
10-03-14, 08:18
Make a paper copy of it and leave the real one in the safe in your room and carry the paper one on you.

Commonglass
10-04-14, 00:08
I mongered the hell out of Latina America years ago, but since getting divorced I've enjoyed the non-pro scene in the USA. Now I'm heading to Manila for a week and looking to take things up a notch. I'd like to get an 18-22 year old non-pro or semi-pro and enjoy the hell out of her for a few days. Or, better yet, do the same thing with two 18-22 year old non-pros at the same time. Taking meals, watching movies and fucking as a threesome day-and-night for a few days.

I setup accounts on Date in Asia and OkCupid. Tons of responses on Date in Asia, less so in OkCupid. As has been discussed in the forum, most of the girls seem interested in relationships or marriage. They seem to go out of their way to describe themselves as honest, simple, etc. How do I change the dialogue into having a few great days together and bringing a friend?

It's not that I mind paying for the girls' time. I just don't want the risk of disease that comes with high mileage ladies.

I've had no problems attracting ladies in real life. I'm good company. I just need help getting past the romance and into the "inappropriate proposition" of a two-lady temporary sexual relationship.

Please help me out! Advice, leads, etc. , either here or by PM. I'd even be happy to take referrals. Thanks!

Vittu
10-04-14, 00:56
You handled that real well. Informative, not confrontational. Thanks.

Soapy Smith
10-04-14, 04:14
I setup accounts on Date in Asia and OkCupid. Tons of responses on Date in Asia, less so in OkCupid. As has been discussed in the forum, most of the girls seem interested in relationships or marriage. They seem to go out of their way to describe themselves as honest, simple, etc. How do I change the dialogue into having a few great days together and bringing a friend?

I've had no problems attracting ladies in real life. I'm good company. I just need help getting past the romance and into the "inappropriate proposition" of a two-lady temporary sexual relationship.You are in the wrong thread. Most of the answers you seek have been beaten to death in the online dating thread. One prolific expat has suggested using Craigslist, which contains some surprisingly explicit ads. BTW, given that many pros also know about online dating, there's no guarantee that women there are not "high mileage. " And if you were a "high mileage" woman, don't you think you would disguise the fact?

Sammon
10-04-14, 13:46
I mongered the hell out of Latina America years ago, but since getting divorced I've enjoyed the non-pro scene in the USA. Now I'm heading to Manila for a week and looking to take things up a notch. I'd like to get an 18-22 year old non-pro or semi-pro and enjoy the hell out of her for a few days. Or, better yet, do the same thing with two 18-22 year old non-pros at the same time. Taking meals, watching movies and fucking as a threesome day-and-night for a few days.

I setup accounts on Date in Asia and OkCupid. Tons of responses on Date in Asia, less so in OkCupid. As has been discussed in the forum, most of the girls seem interested in relationships or marriage. They seem to go out of their way to describe themselves as honest, simple, etc. How do I change the dialogue into having a few great days together and bringing a friend?

It's not that I mind paying for the girls' time. I just don't want the risk of disease that comes with high mileage ladies.

I've had no problems attracting ladies in real life. I'm good company. I just need help getting past the romance and into the "inappropriate proposition" of a two-lady temporary sexual relationship.

Please help me out! Advice, leads, etc. , either here or by PM. I'd even be happy to take referrals. Thanks!It is very easy. State your purpose and hope they bite. I guarantee you none of them are " virgins ". Of course many of them initially come across as looking for permanent relationship, I am not that kind of girl, My parents do not let me stay with a man, can we meet just for lunch, can I bring my friends or family with me etc.

Like you I am exclusively looking for 18-25 range preferably with no kids although girls with kids tend to be easier to bed.

Most times I like them to come to the hotel by themselves. Sometimes if the girl is really pretty I meet them in the mall. Few times girls have come with their friend or cousin. If the girls like you they will come with you. No need to discuss money unless they ask. Some girls have really liked and later brought their friends or cousin for a threesome, if not one hides in the bathroom while I fuck the other one. At night I sleep in the middle and fuck each one while the other one pretends to to be asleep.

Success rate in getting " Normal " girls to bed depends. Some like you and some do not. Those who like you become sex slaves ready to do anything to make you happy.

Of course there are " Pros" mixed in. These you can make out the moment they are in your room.

Do not be afraid of saying what you want. Generally I tell them I come to Phi Often (Although I tend to use new girls). I tell them I am looking for the girl to stay with me. I do not like wham, bam Ty ma'm type of deal with these girls if they are nice. Sex gets better once they are comfortable with you.

The ones who do not get better or tend to act crazy I tell them all sorts of excuses to get rid of them.

Irrespective of which girl I always give them money. Even if they refuse I put money in their purse saying it is for taxi money, to buy some clothes she wants etc. If we go to the mall I buy her some stuff.

Good hunting!

Pip Jaeger
10-04-14, 17:27
It is very easy. State your purpose and hope they bite. I guarantee you none of them are " virgins ". Of course many of them initially come across as looking for permanent relationship, I am not that kind of girl, My parents do not let me stay with a man, can we meet just for lunch, can I bring my friends or family with me etc. SNIP
Do not be afraid of saying what you want.
The ones who do not get better or tend to act crazy I tell them all sorts of excuses to get rid of them.
Irrespective of which girl I always give them money. Even if they refuse I put money in their purse saying it is for taxi money, to buy some clothes she wants etc. If we go to the mall I buy her some stuff.Good advice from Sammon, but let me add: state what you want, but don't be vulgar about it. Above all, be honest about your intentions, no need to lure a girl into the sack by promising to marry her.

If a girl says no then thank her for her time and simply move onto the next one; if you meet her in person and she turns you down then be a gentleman and discreetly slip her some pesos to cover her transport home. A little good will goes a long way, I've had some like that who've changed their minds or have intro'd me to a GF, cousin, etc.

Hutsori
10-05-14, 02:19
Is there a better site for short term monthly rentals than airbnb, I find them quite expensive.Craigslist. Don't commit to any place by sending a deposit or providing credit card details until you see it.


How much are Gyms generally in Manila? Google it.


What does RTFF mean?Bloody hell.


Final question: Would banging Pros be a negative when it comes to dating regular girls in the Phils. I mean is Manila small enough where everybody is connected in everybody business?Yes, it's merely 13,000,000 Nosy Parkers.

Member #4387
10-05-14, 13:12
Great balanced report Sir Sammon just want to add some pitfalls by having repeat girls. I agree with you that on the greater part things gets better in the sack after numerous meetings but and there is a big BUT. They start eventually to have feelings and that can be nasty shit. I guess that's were your "gets crazy" comments start to play am I right?

These shit can be hard to handle and I have fought off quite a few. Then you must be able to think fast and lie your ass off bcs these girls can be unpredictable. This delicate situations I guess there is no correct or wrong answers but even if I still have some repeat girls in listings (just recently added a new one), I will walk cautiously with the rest of them and make it even more clear that this is only for fun and no relationship are to be had whatsoever. I may have been not direct and upfront in earlier cases. And for that I am sorry. As in it is not my intention to break a young girls heart. I will underline here that I mostly don't deal with the most hardned kind of girls bcs with them issues like this never will happen. Just as a reminder we must treat our small dolls with care and proffesioniality.

Commonglass
10-05-14, 15:24
Thanks Sammon and Skogis! That's great advice. It sounds like operating in Manila is even easier than operating in Latin America--and way easier than in the USA.

I've been reading the online dating forum, which has some great material, but I'm still sketchy on the specifics of what to do.

How does a typical interaction go? Do I invite the girl back to my hotel for drinks after chatting for only a few minutes online? Do I change my DIA profile to say that I'm a frequent business traveler and only looking for company? How do I say "what I want" without being vulgar? Is it appropriate to invite someone I've just met at the mall to come back to the hotel for drinks? What is the appropriate amount to give a girl for "cab" money afterwards?

I know that these a pretty basic questions, and, yes, I've RTFF. The devil is in the details though. If you can save me some failure or wasted hours with some good insights, I'd appreciate it. (I've done the same for others in Latin America.) I'm only going to be in town for five days for this trip and want to make the most of it.

Attached are some pictures of women that I sessioned in Latin America. This is generally the caliber of what I'm looking for.


It is very easy. State your purpose and hope they bite. I guarantee you none of them are " virgins ". Of course many of them initially come across as looking for permanent relationship, I am not that kind of girl, My parents do not let me stay with a man, can we meet just for lunch, can I bring my friends or family with me etc.

Like you I am exclusively looking for 18-25 range preferably with no kids although girls with kids tend to be easier to bed.

Most times I like them to come to the hotel by themselves. Sometimes if the girl is really pretty I meet them in the mall. Few times girls have come with their friend or cousin. If the girls like you they will come with you. No need to discuss money unless they ask. Some girls have really liked and later brought their friends or cousin for a threesome, if not one hides in the bathroom while I fuck the other one. At night I sleep in the middle and fuck each one while the other one pretends to to be asleep.

Success rate in getting " Normal " girls to bed depends. Some like you and some do not. Those who like you become sex slaves ready to do anything to make you happy.

Of course there are " Pros" mixed in. These you can make out the moment they are in your room.

Do not be afraid of saying what you want. Generally I tell them I come to Phi Often (Although I tend to use new girls). I tell them I am looking for the girl to stay with me. I do not like wham, bam Ty ma'm type of deal with these girls if they are nice. Sex gets better once they are comfortable with you.

The ones who do not get better or tend to act crazy I tell them all sorts of excuses to get rid of them.

Irrespective of which girl I always give them money. Even if they refuse I put money in their purse saying it is for taxi money, to buy some clothes she wants etc. If we go to the mall I buy her some stuff.

Good hunting!

D Cups
10-05-14, 16:03
Do I invite the girl back to my hotel for drinks after chatting for only a few minutes online? Is it appropriate to invite someone I've just met at the mall to come back to the hotel for drinks? What is the appropriate amount to give a girl for "cab" money afterwards?Common, it's easy, you can meet her at mall or at hotel. If she meets you at hotel it is understood she will bang you. Yes, cab money is appropriate 500 P - 2 k depending on how long she stays and how good she was to you. If you find any Filipinas like Sandy let me know! Good luck.

Hutsori
10-05-14, 16:51
Great balanced report Sir Sammon just want to add some pitfalls by having repeat girls. I agree with you that on the greater part things gets better in the sack after numerous meetings but and there is a big BUT. They start eventually to have feelings and that can be nasty shit. I guess that's were your "gets crazy" comments start to play am I right?

These shit can be hard to handle and I have fought off quite a few. Then you must be able to think fast and lie your ass off bcs these girls can be unpredictable. This delicate situations I guess there is no correct or wrong answers but even if I still have some repeat girls in listings (just recently added a new one), I will walk cautiously with the rest of them and make it even more clear that this is only for fun and no relationship are to be had whatsoever. I may have been not direct and upfront in earlier cases. And for that I am sorry. As in it is not my intention to break a young girls heart. I will underline here that I mostly don't deal with the most hardned kind of girls bcs with them issues like this never will happen. Just as a reminder we must treat our small dolls with care and proffesioniality.I really enjoy having regular girls because the rapport and chemistry is outstanding. Yet there are a few pitfalls when a few of them become very regular regular girls who visit several nights a week. Firstly, they leave personal items. Clothing, flip flops, shampoo and makeup, a toothbrush, hair drier, etc. Keeping track of what belongs to whom and where they left it is a bit of a hassle. Someone here recommended bagging each girl's stuff when she leaves and then unpacking it before she arrives, and that was good advice that I use; I'll add that I use my mobile's camera to photo where she left the items and then replace them just so. Photo each item. Study it. Why? I once put a pink toothbrush on the basin and a few hours later the girl was demanding to know what happened to her toothbrush. She only uses a pink Colgate toothbrushes and the pink one I put on the sink was a different brand.

Previously I've written about sanitising my place to remove all residue of a girl's visit. I learnt to not overdo it when regulars are in my life. Yes, check the bed and floor for stray hairs. Clean the bathroom, but don't throw away her hairs. Wash all the dishes and put them back in the cabinets; keep in mind the inventory of food and drinks you have and keep things stocked, especially items she likes. Don't throw away the contents of the bathroom's rubbish bin. Pull the partially filled bag from the bin and hide it, replace with an empty bag for the next girl's visit, and before the regular girl returns swap bags, putting her rubbish bag back in the bin. The regular girl will see that the items she threw away earlier are still there. Spread her hairs back on the bathroom floor. Check photos to ensure everything is back where she left it.

Calling it quits. Eventually a girl who doesn't have a husband or partner will tell you she loves you. Yes, it started as a NSA fubu set up, but she's changed. My standard reply is that it takes a long time for me to determine whether or not I love someone and now I don't love her. When the girl asks you to lie to her and tell her you love her then it's gone too far. Pack her stuff before she arrives, break the news, let her cry, hand her her stuff, don't do the goodbye fuck, and don't see her again. Yes, the girl will ask to remain friends and maintain contact. It's best to refuse; it's unkind to the girl to resume seeing her.

Some girls enter, exit, and re-enter my life often. They visit me when they don't have a boyfriend, then they find a guy for a while and stop seeing me, something goes wrong with the new guy or his aeroplane has finished refueling and it's time to go, and the girl is texting me once again to visit. I never hold this "betrayal" against them. I like how these girls compartmentalise, and she's assigned me the proper place in her life.

Member #4387
10-05-14, 17:56
We have been through this many times of evidence removals and shit like this. But you stepped up and brought this to a hole new level. A level, even if I do some evidence removals myself while shifting pray, I can not do or don't need as I dont live here as I presume you are?

I have had a few repeats I want to see later in my stays and on occation they have left some items (on purpose or whatever I don't know but easy to cope with). The bathbin removal I have done several times before new fuckobjects arrives. One girl was smart enough though to look into a pretty hidden lockout behind my apts washer and dryer and there she found garbage, winebottles, waste from bathroom etc etc(my hiding spot ofcourse). That made my creativity rise. My answer, pretending I was as surprised as her, was I would complaint to the housekeeping as this must have been leftovers from prior residents, hehe. If ahe bought it or not i dont know but we sessioned shortly after.

So I think as a long timer here or as me, a frequent visitor, more or less same rules apply but I don't have to be so scientific about it. But in a larger perspective this is something more people should be aware of.

My removal of evidence as described earlier also incl housekeeping to do the beds, allways have a good stock of fresh towels, the hairs on the bathroomfloors (I fucked up many times but same excuse as with the earlier described one applies), between sessions. One of my worst one was blood stains in the bed sheets. The last girl I fucked obviously was at her beginning of menstruation or she recently finished but for the latter it is not unheard of that fucking right after can trig new blood floods. I did have so short time between sessions and the bedroom was in dimmed lightning so I did not check so when next girl arrived and entered bedroom perimeter ofcourse this was the first she noticed. That was a tough one. I managed trough some fictional nosebleed story to calm her down.

But anyway, thanks Huts, you brought this to a hole new level and while I laughed and cryed while reading I also took it very seriously. Others with repeatgirls should print out Huts and read it every now and then. Will prevent you from a lot of hazzle.

And i realy enjoy repeat girls but i see as a common rule now that after 5/6 meetings more and more of the repeat ones becomes more and more sensitive. More and more question about my fake life they want to know, they want to view my pics in ipad, iphones, computers whatever and ask more and more about other girls(the latter developes from 2/3 time). So even if i dont want to write it in stone i will for the future lower my repeats and not have them over more than earlier described. If a repeatgirl stays away from beeing to personal then exceptions can be made.

Hutsori
10-06-14, 03:54
One of my worst one was blood stains in the bed sheets. The last girl I fucked obviously was at her beginning of menstruation or she recently finished but for the latter it is not unheard of that fucking right after can trig new blood floods. I did have so short time between sessions and the bedroom was in dimmed lightning so I did not check so when next girl arrived and entered bedroom perimeter ofcourse this was the first she noticed. That was a tough one. I managed trough some fictional nosebleed story to calm her down.Stained sheets and towels can be a hassle if you're unprepared. Long ago I found an outstanding pre-wash stain stick called Turbo Clean at the hardware store. After each and every visit I examine my bed (make this part of your post-coitus routine when she's showering), rub some Turbo Clean on the spots, and then scrub clean with a cold, damp towel. It really does the job; it even removed set-in blood from a shirt that had been laundered several times previously. This being the Philippines, what was once available often is never restocked. When you find something that works, such as Turbo Clean, buy several. Another great cleaner is the spray Oxy Clean, but I haven't seen it sold in Manila. (And no, I'm not a shill for Turbo Clean.)

It's through such mishaps of our own and others making that one learns - I think I learned from you to always check windows and mirrors for hand prints and boob impressions. Where once we stammered out ridiculously far-fetched explanations now utterly believable ones slide off our tongues.

Photos are my Achilles' heal - try explaining to a girl who has 16,347 photos why I have zero. Other than taking pictures of rubbish, hair on the floor, and hanged clothing I never photograph anything. I can't be bothered. Yet girls want to see pictures of my life. I'm seriously considering paying a freelancer to photoshop a life for me.

Asian Flava
10-06-14, 06:15
Thank you to the previous few posters who gave some great information but also gave me a good laugh (much needed today. Some very useful information for me to keep in mind for the future.

I must say Hutsori, you're attention to details is impressive. I have to wonder what you do for a living LOL I reminds me of something from CSI. I guess that is what Grissom was doing on his mongering vacations in the Phils.

AF


Stained sheets and towels can be a hassle if you're unprepared. Long ago I found an outstanding pre-wash stain stick called Turbo Clean at the hardware store. After each and every visit I examine my bed (make this part of your post-coitus routine when she's showering), rub some Turbo Clean on the spots, and then scrub clean with a cold, damp towel. It really does the job; it even removed set-in blood from a shirt that had been laundered several times previously. This being the Philippines, what was once available often is never restocked. When you find something that works, such as Turbo Clean, buy several. Another great cleaner is the spray Oxy Clean, but I haven't seen it sold in Manila. (And no, I'm not a shill for Turbo Clean.)

It's through such mishaps of our own and others making that one learns - I think I learned from you to always check windows and mirrors for hand prints and boob impressions. Where once we stammered out ridiculously far-fetched explanations now utterly believable ones slide off our tongues.

Photos are my Achilles' heal - try explaining to a girl who has 16,347 photos why I have zero. Other than taking pictures of rubbish, hair on the floor, and hanged clothing I never photograph anything. I can't be bothered. Yet girls want to see pictures of my life. I'm seriously considering paying a freelancer to photoshop a life for me.

Geneva Guy
10-06-14, 17:02
stained sheets and towels can be a hassle if you're unprepared. long ago i found an outstanding pre-wash stain stick called turbo clean at the hardware store. after each and every visit i examine my bed (make this part of your post-coitus routine when she's showering), rub some turbo clean on the spots, and then scrub clean with a cold, damp towel. it really does the job; it even removed set-in blood from a shirt that had been laundered several times previously. this being the philippines, what was once available often is never restocked. when you find something that works, such as turbo clean, buy several. another great cleaner is the spray oxy clean, but i haven't seen it sold in manila. (and no, i'm not a shill for turbo clean.)

it's through such mishaps of our own and others making that one learns - i think i learned from you to always check windows and mirrors for hand prints and boob impressions. where once we stammered out ridiculously far-fetched explanations now utterly believable ones slide off our tongues.

photos are my achilles' heal - try explaining to a girl who has 16,347 photos why i have zero. other than taking pictures of rubbish, hair on the floor, and hanged clothing i never photograph anything. i can't be bothered. yet girls want to see pictures of my life. i'm seriously considering paying a freelancer to photoshop a life for me.i have found that hydrogen peroxide takes out blood stains instantly. works great and is inexpensive. you can buy a small bottle and if anyone asks. you keep it to clean any scrapes and cuts you get. as for the long black hair. i really screwed up one time. had a gf over and did a great job of cleaning the place. when wife arrived on the plane and came she noted immediately a "long black hair" on the floor. this had to be the only one left in the place. she found it immediately.

yep, funny about filipinas. they either will have their period and not say a thing or get it immediately after fucking them. i have had this happen at least a few times over the years.

gg

Fred Gold
10-07-14, 07:00
I will be arriving at about 10 am. What can I expect in terms of traffic? Staying near Havana. Should I buy my Sim card at airport or in town? By 15:00, where is good place to start enjoy my trip. I was thinking Robinson Mall- near my hotel. Best Western.

THANKS HAPPY HUNTING. FRED.

Composing off line, as I only have a small amount of data left on this Sim card.

Soapy Smith
10-07-14, 08:37
I will be arriving at about 10 am. What can I expect in terms of traffic? Staying near Havana. Should I buy my Sim card at airport or in town? By 15:00, where is good place to start enjoy my trip. I was thinking Robinson Mall- near my hotel. Best Western.
Fred, your post contains three questions and one gigantic misunderstanding: it is impossible for a hotel to be near both Havana and Robinson's Place, since the two are 30-45 minutes apart by taxi. The 15 minute spread depends on traffic. BTW, at 10 am traffic is heavy throughout Metro Manila. You need to consult a map. Lots of maps available to show you where the three Best Western's are located.

Even from the two in Makati you will work up a sweat walking to Havana, or you can take a 10-15 minute cab ride. BW La Corona in Ermita is five minutes walking from LA Cafe, Amazonia, or G-Point, ten minutes to Robinson's Place, and 30-45 minutes by taxi to Havana. Unless you need to call somebody enroute from airport to the hotel, wait and buy the sim near the hotel. Regardless whether you arrive at Terminal 1 or 3, your first priority should be getting a taxi. When you get to the hotel there will be scores of places to buy a sim card and no waiting lines.

Dark Knight1
10-08-14, 01:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54F3o-rJ-aQ

The video shows an un-armed Caucasian man wearing a light-colored polo shirt, khaki shorts, and blue sneakers being manhandled by at least seven uniformed officers while another one lay still, just a few meters away. Initially he was being restrained by two Bonifacio Global City guards, and two more quickly join the fray.

Fred Gold
10-08-14, 10:40
Thanks for slap in head, I did proof post and somehow really messed up. TY.

I will surely wait until I get to hotel to buy sim. Ty. Fred.


Fred, your post contains three questions and one gigantic misunderstanding: it is impossible for a hotel to be near both Havana and Robinson's Place, since the two are 30-45 minutes apart by taxi. The 15 minute spread depends on traffic. BTW, at 10 am traffic is heavy throughout Metro Manila. You need to consult a map. Lots of maps available to show you where the three Best Western's are located.

Even from the two in Makati you will work up a sweat walking to Havana, or you can take a 10-15 minute cab ride. BW La Corona in Ermita is five minutes walking from LA Cafe, Amazonia, or G-Point, ten minutes to Robinson's Place, and 30-45 minutes by taxi to Havana. Unless you need to call somebody enroute from airport to the hotel, wait and buy the sim near the hotel. Regardless whether you arrive at Terminal 1 or 3, your first priority should be getting a taxi. When you get to the hotel there will be scores of places to buy a sim card and no waiting lines.

Pip Jaeger
10-08-14, 16:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54F3o-rJ-aQ

The video shows an un-armed Caucasian man wearing a light-colored polo shirt, khaki shorts, and blue sneakers being manhandled by at least seven uniformed officers while another one lay still, just a few meters away. Initially he was being restrained by two Bonifacio Global City guards, and two more quickly join the fray.How do you know they were mongers? The vid gives no clue as to why they were being taken into custody and it looks to me like mr blue sneakers was resisting arrest. If I had to guess I'd venture to say that HE was intoxicated.

LuvAsianTang
10-08-14, 18:04
Hello fellow pooners does anyone know about the club illusions in makati? Can the girls there be barfined? I tried searching the forum and googled it but not any info that I could find. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, LuvAsianTang.

Member #4387
10-08-14, 23:51
Hello fellow pooners does anyone know about the club illusions in makati? Can the girls there be barfined? I tried searching the forum and googled it but not any info that I could find. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, LuvAsianTang.For normal clubs in Manila as in disco and nightclubs (aka zzyzx, ekslusive, republiq, time, paladium, prive, gramercy71 etc etc) there are no barfines only covercharges (sometimes). This is totaly normal clubs and though you will find some FL girls in clubs like this from time to time or girls looking for sugar daddies they also cater to great deal of normal girls. Paladium is probably the most FL directed club of the mentioned one and Time on Makati ave (where many many BG meet up after workinghrs or returning from their ewr's). But barfines no. I hear many negotiates with girls before taking them home. I never but I am sure you can do that at these places as well. Just make sure to step cautiosly as many girls here, probably from the greater part of them, are just hanging with friends to have fun. So just don't bulldoze yourself forward as all female are prostis and youll be fine. Havana is also well described in ISG phil part. Best bet if you love the barfine game would be Burgos but this I don't know anything about as it is not my style.

LuvAsianTang
10-09-14, 00:03
For normal clubs in Manila as in disco and nightclubs (aka zzyzx, ekslusive, republiq, time, paladium, prive, gramercy71 etc etc) there are no barfines only covercharges (sometimes). This is totaly normal clubs and though you will find some FL girls in clubs like this from time to time or girls looking for sugar daddies they also cater to great deal of normal girls. Paladium is probably the most FL directed club of the mentioned one and Time on Makati ave (where many many BG meet up after workinghrs or returning from their ewr's). But barfines no. I hear many negotiates with girls before taking them home. I never but I am sure you can do that at these places as well. Just make sure to step cautiosly as many girls here, probably from the greater part of them, are just hanging with friends to have fun. So just don't bulldoze yourself forward as all female are prostis and youll be fine. Havana is also well described in ISG phil part. Best bet if you love the barfine game would be Burgos but this I don't know anything about as it is not my style.Thanks skogis I'm going to be in manila this month and would like to also find a venue for just meeting normal girls who love older menif that's possible. I think I may try illusions just for the hell of it.

LuvAsianTang.

Amavida
10-09-14, 01:45
Hello fellow pooners does anyone know about the club illusions in makati? Can the girls there be barfined? I tried searching the forum and googled it but not any info that I could find. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, LuvAsianTang.There a ton of up market night clubs in Manila. These are not girly bars but conventional night clubs. Understand?

Having said that, if you want a sure thing most of these night clubs have freelancers hanging around waiting for easy money. Arrive early, they are easy to spot, sitting around on one drink, eager to make eye contact. Later in the night the clubbers arrive, it's crowded, you can't tell who is who.

Skogis & several other fellas posted detailed info on these clubs in the last couple of months. Read & learn.

AV.

Dark Knight1
10-09-14, 04:09
How do you know they were mongers? The vid gives no clue as to why they were being taken into custody and it looks to me like mr blue sneakers was resisting arrest. If I had to guess I'd venture to say that HE was intoxicated.They where Caucasian. One was a long term expat while the other was a vacationer. They were stupid enough to put their grimy mitts on a Filipino. That' all the evidence I need to know they were mongers.

Hutsori
10-09-14, 06:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54F3o-rJ-aQ

The video shows an un-armed Caucasian man wearing a light-colored polo shirt, khaki shorts, and blue sneakers being manhandled by at least seven uniformed officers while another one lay still, just a few meters away. Initially he was being restrained by two Bonifacio Global City guards, and two more quickly join the fray.Seems to me the police used excessive restraint.

Truncheons! Truncheons, I tell ya! Truncheons.

Docwiltro
10-09-14, 06:34
I will be arriving at about 10 am. What can I expect in terms of traffic? Staying near Havana. Should I buy my Sim card at airport or in town? By 15:00, where is good place to start enjoy my trip. I was thinking Robinson Mall- near my hotel. Best Western.

THANKS HAPPY HUNTING. FRED.

Composing off line, as I only have a small amount of data left on this Sim card.I usually arrive around that time, and generally, the traffic is tolerable if you're going to Ermita which would take typically about 25 minutes or less from the airport. If you are indeed staying at BW La Corona and are in need of a sim card, walk down to Padre Faura, cross the street, and turn left and keep walking until you reach the Padre Faura entrance to Robinson's Place Mall. That shouldn't take more than 5 minutes and in the process you'll cross Mabini and see G-Point on your short trek. When you enter Robinson's from Padre Faura, stay to the right in that wing of the mall and within 100 meters, you'll see a couple of phone shops where you can buy the sim, load, and other phone accessories.

OneIpole
10-09-14, 16:21
I really enjoy having regular girls because the rapport and chemistry is outstanding. Yet there are a few pitfalls when a few of them become very regular regular girls who visit several nights a week. Firstly, they leave personal items. Clothing, flip flops, shampoo and makeup, a toothbrush, hair drier, etc. Keeping track of what belongs to whom and where they left it is a bit of a hassle. Someone here recommended bagging each girl's stuff when she leaves and then unpacking it before she arrives, and that was good advice that I use; I'll add that I use my mobile's camera to photo where she left the items and then replace them just so. Photo each item. Study it. Why? I once put a pink toothbrush on the basin and a few hours later the girl was demanding to know what happened to her toothbrush. She only uses a pink Colgate toothbrushes and the pink one I put on the sink was a different brand.

Previously I've written about sanitising my place to remove all residue of a girl's visit. I learnt to not overdo it when regulars are in my life. Yes, check the bed and floor for stray hairs. Clean the bathroom, but don't throw away her hairs. Wash all the dishes and put them back in the cabinets; keep in mind the inventory of food and drinks you have and keep things stocked, especially items she likes. Don't throw away the contents of the bathroom's rubbish bin. Pull the partially filled bag from the bin and hide it, replace with an empty bag for the next girl's visit, and before the regular girl returns swap bags, putting her rubbish bag back in the bin. The regular girl will see that the items she threw away earlier are still there. Spread her hairs back on the bathroom floor. Check photos to ensure everything is back where she left it.

Calling it quits. Eventually a girl who doesn't have a husband or partner will tell you she loves you. Yes, it started as a NSA fubu set up, but she's changed. My standard reply is that it takes a long time for me to determine whether or not I love someone and now I don't love her. When the girl asks you to lie to her and tell her you love her then it's gone too far. Pack her stuff before she arrives, break the news, let her cry, hand her her stuff, don't do the goodbye fuck, and don't see her again. Yes, the girl will ask to remain friends and maintain contact. It's best to refuse; it's unkind to the girl to resume seeing her.

Some girls enter, exit, and re-enter my life often. They visit me when they don't have a boyfriend, then they find a guy for a while and stop seeing me, something goes wrong with the new guy or his aeroplane has finished refueling and it's time to go, and the girl is texting me once again to visit. I never hold this "betrayal" against them. I like how these girls compartmentalise, and she's assigned me the proper place in her life.Holly shit that's a lot of work. I do some cleanup and make sure no condoms and shit laying around, but shit take pictures and putting back hair. Fuck your like CSI, haha.

I find it better to tell them I do what I want when I want, they don't like it leave. It is their choice. Not one has stopped calling or coming over, if anything they try harder. My main girl started counting condoms in my drawer, she got all sad and stuff. I told her from day one and I told her again. I am not in love with anybody nor will I be, you can except it or leave it. Ifyour upset please leave because it is best for you. She wouldn't leave (now I am very nice and polite but as straight forward as can be).

Your last paragraph great advice. It really is true these girls put you in a place for them and then a place for someone else. They are as slick and secretive as anybody in the world. When they say players learned from thier mothers how to be players- they ant lying. These Pinas are slick.

Henmon
10-09-14, 16:25
I going to stay some days I Pasay. Somebody knows where or how to hook opp girls in daytime in that area? I know were I find it in evening and night time.

WestCoast1
10-10-14, 00:13
I going to stay some days I Pasay. Somebody knows where or how to hook opp girls in daytime in that area? I know were I find it in evening and night time.I was going to respond to you in PM, as you are a newb. However I see you don't have PM. Two posts in two years, both short questions. And no purchased membership. Sorry no info from me.

Econo Tech
10-10-14, 03:49
I usually arrive around that time, and generally, the traffic is tolerable if you're going to Ermita which would take typically about 25 minutes or less from the airport. If you are indeed staying at BW La Corona and are in need of a sim card, walk down to Padre Faura, cross the street, and turn left and keep walking until you reach the Padre Faura entrance to Robinson's Place Mall. That shouldn't take more than 5 minutes and in the process you'll cross Mabini and see G-Point on your short trek. When you enter Robinson's from Padre Faura, stay to the right in that wing of the mall and within 100 meters, you'll see a couple of phone shops where you can buy the sim, load, and other phone accessories.And in the process of walking to Robinson's Malate, get a free body check / grope / pocket cleaning by street kids, if you are interested.

Hutsori
10-10-14, 06:30
Holly shit that's a lot of work. I do some cleanup and make sure no condoms and shit laying around, but shit take pictures and putting back hair. Fuck your like CSI, haha.It's because I have a few regular girls who come over frequently. The more a girl is around you the more she'll know your patterns. When it's always new girls or the visits are less frequent then the preparation isn't as meticulous; it's simply clean and toss. These regulars know it's a fubu arrangement, perhaps an enhanced fubu plus. Yet, I learnt nothing good comes of it by rubbing their noses in it. Their moods sour, they get sullen, and instead of having a great time I'm now with a pouting girl. No hapenis in that, is there? The minor annoyance of preparation eliminates major aggravation.

FreebieFan
10-10-14, 06:53
It's because I have a few regular girls who come over frequently. The more a girl is around you the more she'll know your patterns. When it's always new girls or the visits are less frequent then the preparation isn't as meticulous; it's simply clean and toss. These regulars know it's a fubu arrangement, perhaps an enhanced fubu plus. Yet, I learnt nothing good comes of it by rubbing their noses in it. Their moods sour, they get sullen, and instead of having a great time I'm now with a pouting girl. No hapenis in that, is there? The minor annoyance of preparation eliminates major aggravation.I confess to having done the photo thing too, too ensure I didn't get the wrong girls toiletries on the sink top. And I've seen girls undo / open / remove the bath plug to see what hairs are wrapped around it (often lots!).

And I've spent hours clearing up hairs. But these days if theres hair, I blame the cleaning service. " The staff have long hair so it must be theirs".

Some girls accept and know they arent the only ones. Some girls want to be the only one.

Some will go looking in closets for evidence of other females " Oh just looking at your clothes / shoes etc). . they are the ones you want to be careful of.

FoxesHunter
10-13-14, 13:21
1) How much money it cost fucking for 2 hours a beautiful semi-pro girl in Manila? And for all night?

2) If a man is 55 years old, how much easy is to fuck some regular girls?

3) Manila is a big town, ho much is Manila dispersiveness to find fucking girls? The spot is concentrated in the center city?

I hope you can reply me.

Thanks

OldJedi
10-15-14, 14:25
1) How much money it cost fucking for 2 hours a beautiful semi-pro girl in Manila? And for all night?

2) If a man is 55 years old, how much easy is to fuck some regular girls?

3) Manila is a big town, ho much is Manila dispersiveness to find fucking girls? The spot is concentrated in the center city?

I hope you can reply me.

Thanks1) starting from free to unlimited a Freelancer in a Mall from 1000, LA-Cafe calling 2000 to 2500 for a short time.

2) depends on you. Are you white and nice? Smart in hunting? Then it should be easy.

3) RTFM.

Radical Guy
10-15-14, 16:55
1) How much money it cost fucking for 2 hours a beautiful semi-pro girl in Manila? And for all night?

2) If a man is 55 years old, how much easy is to fuck some regular girls?

3) Manila is a big town, ho much is Manila dispersiveness to find fucking girls? The spot is concentrated in the center city?

I hope you can reply me.

ThanksHere's a 20-year-old honey I picked up two weeks ago outside of Robinson's Mall in Ermita, near the Starbucks. She actually approached me. She wanted only 1000 pesos, and she was definitely worth it. We started with a lengthy 69, and then she got on top and rode me to completion. I gave her the 1000 pesos, plus 200 pesos extra. She didn't want to take nude pics, but let me take the attached. She was a delight, and that lovely smile never left her face. She had a nice body, pencil eraser nipples, and a sweet tasting, naturally hairy pussy, just the way I like. (I dislike shaved pussy.)

I am in my late 50's, and was dressed in just a t-shirt and shorts. I don't know if my honey was a "regular girl," but I sensed that she was not very experienced with P4P scenarios. She claimed to be a student trying to get money for tuition, but who knows?

RG.

Radical Guy
10-15-14, 18:34
I posted a report with picture in the photo gallery about a sweet young thang I picked up last week in Harrison Plaza mall. Here is the link:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1633006&viewfull=1#post1633006

Toronto
10-16-14, 05:48
Spent a few days in Manila last week. My knowledge and experience is limited so just sharing what I can.

Uber. Used this almost exclusively and works great. Only tried uber x which are mainly newer toyotas just like mist taxis. No tipping, no haggling to turn meter on, no pos older cars and not any more expensive. Not sure what they use for uber black. As an example, ride from holiday inn makati to Hyatt was 144 pesos.

Wechat. Tried using the feature that searches nearby users. Lots of pros. Many quoted crazy prices but came down quickly. Did not actually hired one so don't know if they actually show up.

Badoo. I got replies mostly from regular girls with jobs like call center. Met a couple not for sex but just because I wanted some company for conversation and meals.

Facebook. My fake account worked great. Much more effort than say DIA but I like the fact that you can see lots of photos as to no surprises. Lots of students looking for help. At least I think they are students based on their Facebook posts in uniform and at school and such.

Since I stayed at the holiday inn makati I pretty much insisted to meet at glorietta or at the hotel. Rejected any who refused. I saw no point in going all over the place to meet them. The hotel itself is fine. Nothing special, just convenient location wise.

Soapy Smith
10-16-14, 06:32
I posted a report with picture in the photo gallery about a sweet young thang I picked up last week in Harrison Plaza mall. Here is the link:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=1633006&viewfull=1#post1633006RG, given the conversation with mamasan, I presume this was a daytime acquisition. And, assuming you stayed at Century Park, did you have any experience coming in past hotel security with an evening acquisition?

Member #4387
10-16-14, 10:26
Facebook. My fake account worked great. Much more effort than say DIA but I like the fact that you can see lots of photos as to no surprises. Lots of students looking for help. At least I think they are students based on their Facebook posts in uniform and at school and such.
Since I stayed at the holiday inn makati I pretty much insisted to meet at glorietta or at the hotel. Rejected any who refused. I saw no point in going all over the place to meet them. The hotel itself is fine. Nothing special, just convenient location wise.I usually stay at the Ascott (connected to the Gl 4 as well just different entrance) and I think you did good rejecting the ones refusing to meet you within "your" perimeters. I amrather nazi that way and the longest from my hotel I have bothered to meet a girl is in Greenbelt(atleast lately, earlier i could be more softhearted). I have my designated girl pick up point right infront of hotel entrance and all girls I meet have to be calibrated to come my room otherwice it is just a timewaster (subjective I know). If I am hungry I can ofcourse meet a girl and take her for some food. I alter between Outback, Tony Ramos, Fridys and Italiannis. Not for the gourmes out there but I can't stand local foods and here I get a decent meal.

I agree facebook can give you a better impression of the girls. I am not here to relationship them girls so I don't care so much what their facebook tells. But for the pics it is a great resource. And please be adviced (you probably know allready) that girls as well have fake accounts. I know one girl she is running 4 accounts from which 3 are fake and very few get insights in her family, boyfriend and provincial account. Their normal setup is atleast having 2 (one fake). The fake one they put out all sorts of trouble and indirectly hints for money trouble, they want relationship and all sorts of shit. I guess they try play our softsides. And many succeeds as it is a lot of gullible guys out there. It is finacialy smart to use this angel i guess. The genuine account often tell they are happy, they have child, BF and the hole lot. Quite different from the fake one (almost like my own but in another way if you catch my drift, hehe). I feast for students.

Anyway great report.

Radical Guy
10-16-14, 12:04
RG, given the conversation with mamasan, I presume this was a daytime acquisition. And, assuming you stayed at Century Park, did you have any experience coming in past hotel security with an evening acquisition?Yes, I was at Century Park, my favorite go-to hotel when I'm in Manila. During the day, and until 10:00 PM, hotel security doesn't care who you bring in, and never stops to question anyone accompanying you. I just walked right in with my lady and went to my room. I was pleased by the fact that, when she left, security detained her on the way out and called me to ensure that everything was okay.

One time I did bring a lady in after 10 pm. Security simply asked her to register her name (and I'd, I think) at the entrance (downstairs entrance), but they didn't charge me any fee or anything. They simply were adding an extra level of security. But once she signed in with me, there was no problem.

RG.

Radical Guy
10-16-14, 12:12
I alter between Outback, Tony Ramos, Fridys and Italiannis.I didn't realize that there is an Outback steak house in Manila. Is the beef they use comparable to the steaks and prime rib they serve in the US, or do they use that bland, tasteless Ausie beef?

RG.

KongKing
10-16-14, 15:54
................or do they use that bland, tasteless Ausie beef? RG.Holy cow. Are you trying to stir up a nationalistic bull fight here RG? This could become an udderly futile discussion.

Member #4387
10-16-14, 16:30
I didn't realize that there is an Outback steak house in Manila. Is the beef they use comparable to the steaks and prime rib they serve in the US, or do they use that bland, tasteless Ausie beef?

RG.Well I am no expert on the subject steaks but I find their assortiment of various steaks to my taste. Both outback and tony ramos have some tasty baby ribs. If they use a genuine US or Aussie animals I hope some other steak / beef hungry punter can enlighten RG with. I have not been through the hole menu but their beef is also neetly cooked (I enjoy from rare to medium) with mixed veggies and baked potatoe. It seems the chef know his / her work. Ironicaly I also choose salmon sometimes at the steakhouse. Give it a try. If you are in the area when I am we can give some prime ribs a go together with some nice brews.

Radical Guy
10-16-14, 19:33
Holy cow. Are you trying to stir up a nationalistic bull fight here RG? This could become an udderly futile discussion.I was under the impression that most of the beef served in the Philippines is imported from Australia. And the beef I've had in the Philippines is terrible. But I might be mistaken, as I have never actually tried beef in Australia, or officially sold as such. So, no offense intended to my Aussie brothers. .

RG.

Hutsori
10-17-14, 01:15
I was under the impression that most of the beef served in the Philippines is imported from Australia. And the beef I've had in the Philippines is terrible. But I might be mistaken, as I have never actually tried beef in Australia, or officially sold as such. So, no offense intended to my Aussie brothers. .

RG.The best beef served in the Philippines is from Japan, and it's rarely available. BTW, there is a butcher on Pasong Tamo across the street from Makati (formerly Cinema) Square named Kitayama that sells Philippine-raised Kobe (technically wagyu) beef, and it is excellent. The beef is graded and priced using the Japanese grading system, but instead of 5 quality grades they have 8 or 9. A lot of the Aussie beef is grass fed rather than US-style grain fed. It is a stronger taste. If you cook at home pick up the Meltique brand Aussie rib eyes. It's about p1500 per kilo. Another good place to pick up high-quality beef is at Santi's Deli.

Best chain-restaurant ribs in Manila are at Racks. Their sauces are phenomenal, especially the spicy one.

Toronto
10-17-14, 02:45
I agree facebook can give you a better impression of the girls. I am not here to relationship them girls so I don't care so much what their facebook tells. But for the pics it is a great resource. And please be adviced (you probably know allready) that girls as well have fake accounts. I know one girl she is running 4 accounts from which 3 are fake and very few get insights in her family, boyfriend and provincial account. Their normal setup is atleast having 2 (one fake). The fake one they put out all sorts of trouble and indirectly hints for money trouble, they want relationship and all sorts of shit. I guess they try play our softsides. And many succeeds as it is a lot of gullible guys out there. It is finacialy smart to use this angel i guess. The genuine account often tell they are happy, they have child, BF and the hole lot. Quite different from the fake one (almost like my own but in another way if you catch my drift, hehe). I feast for students.

Anyway great report.Yes you are absolutely correct in girls having multiple accounts. That's ok for me, all I care about is that I get to see the photos. That way I'm not surprised by fake photos or old photos when they used to look better which can happen on dating sites. Also great because I have now found couple girls who are willing to recruit "mutual friends" and such for me for a small fee.

Member #4698
10-17-14, 03:28
Dumb question slightly off topic: how do you set up a fake Face Book account? Currently I have nothing to do with Face Book and that is the way I will keep it unless I can set up a fake.

WestCoast1
10-17-14, 04:10
Dumb question slightly off topic: how do you set up a fake Face Book account? Currently I have nothing to do with Face Book and that is the way I will keep it unless I can set up a fake.I tried to PM you some info, but your inbox is full.

Makeupaname
10-17-14, 05:15
Dumb question slightly off topic: how do you set up a fake Face Book account? Currently I have nothing to do with Face Book and that is the way I will keep it unless I can set up a fake.Simple answer: don't use your real name, especially not surname / family name.

More details:

To open a facebook page all you need is a valid email address.

So go some place an create a new email. (yahoo, gmail, etc.) don't use any real information when creating the new email.

When registering / opening the new facebook , do not use a nickname or handle that you use elsewhere. example my first ISG name was something like QwertyTommy (not the name I used), and I used that name for email, facebook, ym, etc.. if someone googled the name QwertyTommy, they could quickly gather a lot of info about me.

Once the new facebook is created, do not befriend any real life friends, relatives, coworkers, or non-mongers on this account.

Do not use photos that are used elsewhere, search engines can now find duplicates photos from multiple web sites.

Hutsori
10-17-14, 05:21
So go some place an create a new email. (yahoo, gmail, etc.) don't use any real information when creating the new email.
I believe both yahoo and gmail require a (mobile) phone number to be provided when creating an account nowadays.

Cbea20
10-17-14, 05:45
That is true, but it's not necessarily a sinister scam. If it is, a look around will expose it. Does the friends list include only foreign men? Then it's not her real Facebook. But in my experience, they open a new account when they feel they have outgrown the old one. She doesn't like the name she used, or other details, or some of the friends, or the photos, etc. Maybe there was a stalker or unpleasant conversation. Too many Indian and Muslim guys begging. Starting a new account is the easiest way out. Often you can find the old account by searching the nickname. Often she will "friend" the previous account. Most of them are not clever enough to really hide the truth. And to be fair, it can take me a while to use new programs, with all my education.


....I agree facebook can give you a better impression of the girls. I am not here to relationship them girls so I don't care so much what their facebook tells. But for the pics it is a great resource. And please be adviced (you probably know allready) that girls as well have fake accounts. I know one girl she is running 4 accounts from which 3 are fake and very few get insights in her family, boyfriend and provincial account. Their normal setup is atleast having 2 (one fake). The fake one they put out all sorts of trouble and indirectly hints for money trouble, they want relationship and all sorts of shit. I guess they try play our softsides. And many succeeds as it is a lot of gullible guys out there. It is finacialy smart to use this angel i guess. The genuine account often tell they are happy, they have child, BF and the hole lot. Quite different from the fake one (almost like my own but in another way if you catch my drift, hehe). I feast for students...

Hutsori
10-17-14, 06:49
Often you can find the old account by searching the nickname. Often she will "friend" the previous account. I've found they often spell their names backwards when establishing their new or secret account. Of course each time you catch her she becomes a little brighter, a little shrewder. Baby steps become more confident, faster, and bolder. Then one day it may dawn on you: Heavens! I trained my very own monster.

If you're devoting a lot time and effort investigating a girl it seems to me the relationship's foundation is very unstable; it's best to walk away. Unlikely she'll change her deceptive ways. One really doesn't need that grief.

Cbea20
10-17-14, 11:21
Good points. But I ask you, if you eliminate the sneaky ones, what are you left with?


I've found they often spell their names backwards when establishing their new or secret account. Of course each time you catch her she becomes a little brighter, a little shrewder. Baby steps become more confident, faster, and bolder. Then one day it may dawn on you: Heavens! I trained my very own monster.

If you're devoting a lot time and effort investigating a girl it seems to me the relationship's foundation is very unstable; it's best to walk away. Unlikely she'll change her deceptive ways. One really doesn't need that grief.

Hutsori
10-17-14, 17:04
Good points. But I ask you, if you eliminate the sneaky ones, what are you left with?Depends. I don't think all of them are deceptive, but if you believe they all are then it behooves you to remain emotionally aloof. Don't get emotionally tied to the sneaky ones.

Soapy Smith
10-18-14, 16:54
I was under the impression that most of the beef served in the Philippines is imported from Australia. And the beef I've had in the Philippines is terrible. But I might be mistaken, as I have never actually tried beef in Australia, or officially sold as such. So, no offense intended to my Aussie brothers. RG.Your muscles would get pretty tough too if you were being chased regularly by Aborigines and dingoes. Oops! No offense intended. I suppose the Aussies now have two excuses to take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) at the expense of us Yanks. Sure hope there are no Aborigines on the board.

Radical Guy
10-18-14, 18:57
Your muscles would get pretty tough too if you were being chased regularly by Aborigines and dingoes. Oops! No offense intended. I suppose the Aussies now have two excuses to take the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) at the expense of us Yanks. Sure hope there are no Aborigines on the board.Hey, I'm from Texas, so I've grown rather spoiled and picky when it comes to a steak. .

RG.

Slippery
10-18-14, 22:31
What I'd give for a good burger from the Weber sometimes. It's been over a year.

Cool Traveler
10-20-14, 16:13
Yeah, sounds like he has a beef to grind with Aussie cows!


Hey, I'm from Texas, so I've grown rather spoiled and picky when it comes to a steak.

RG.

Soapy Smith
10-21-14, 07:47
Yeah, sounds like he has a beef to grind with Aussie cows!I'm not so sure that sentiment originates with RG. Seems like many of the board's Oz faithful are chasing Philly fillies precisely because they have given up on their own old Aussie cows.

D Cups
10-21-14, 15:45
I'm not so sure that sentiment originates with RG. Seems like many of the board's Oz faithful are chasing Philly fillies precisely because they have given up on their own old Aussie cows.Indeed. The Yanks prefer to moooove there, too, to avoid the heffers in the homeland.

Ekspat
10-22-14, 07:28
Indeed. The Yanks prefer to moooove there, too, to avoid the heffers in the homeland.Germans too, bro DCups!

Jp Slicky
10-22-14, 09:01
Those American heffers simple spend too much time at the all-you-can-eat troughs located throughout the USA. So we need to ride on the greener pastures.

D Cups
10-22-14, 20:30
Germans too, bro DCups!Jawohl mein herr Ekspat! Danke for the pic! Love it! I will be in AC Nov 16 and 17 if you happen to be there then let us have some San Migs and grab some big boobs. Prosit!

D Cups
10-22-14, 20:38
Those American heffers simple spend too much time at the all-you-can-eat troughs located throughout the USA. So we need to ride on the greener pastures.You said that right, Slicky. Some of these broads should have a sign on their ass like the big trucks do: extra-wide load. Big asses and big non-stop motor mouths. What a pitiful combination. Can't wait to be banging some of those slim and stacked Filipina cuties in less than two weeks. I've got a 19-yo Cebuana DIA lined up who has never been with a Westerner. She is so beautiful I might just fall in love. I just look at AWs now and laugh.

Amavida
10-23-14, 04:37
Good points. But I ask you, if you eliminate the sneaky ones, what are you left with?Not much hehehe.

I find FB tedious. Yes I agree you can quickly find them out because FB is so promiscuous by default.

But it works against you also. I go to all this friggin trouble of setting up a mongering FB page & then one of them goes and tags & comments every bloody pic on my FB account! Every new female visitor them immediately 'friends' her and they blab. Have to constantly fiddle with and lock down the settings in FB and keep checking back constantly in case FB has reset them to default again with out notifying me.

AV.

FreebieFan
10-23-14, 06:23
Not much hehehe.


But it works against you also. I go to all this friggin trouble of setting up a mongering FB page & then one of them goes and tags & comments every bloody pic on my FB account! Every new female visitor them immediately 'friends' her and they blab.

AV.Been there and done that.

I took a couple of pics of a lady when she was visiting my apartment a few years back. She was one of my 4 fb friends at the time.

At the same time, as is normal, I was dating another lady (or three). She was also an fb friend.

I had the standard fb page, that lacked any detail about myself, no photo etc.

BUT. The lady I was dating, was so quick to say " hey freebie, how come Miss xyz has a photo on her fb page, sitting in a sofa that looks remarkably (ok she's a Filipina. I don't think she actually used the word remarkably) similar to the photo I was sitting on, one day earlier than the day she posted her pic.

Technology isn't always a mongers best friend.

Amavida
10-23-14, 06:40
Been there and done that.

I took a couple of pics of a lady when she was visiting my apartment a few years back. She was one of my 4 fb friends at the time.

At the same time, as is normal, I was dating another lady (or three). She was also an fb friend.

I had the standard fb page, that lacked any detail about myself, no photo etc.

BUT. The lady I was dating, was so quick to say " hey freebie, how come Miss xyz has a photo on her fb page, sitting in a sofa that looks remarkably (ok she's a Filipina. I don't think she actually used the word remarkably) similar to the photo I was sitting on, one day earlier than the day she posted her pic.

Technology isn't always a mongers best friend.Yup! FF know it well.

Recently there was a whole flurry of posts on ISG discussing the post bonk cleanup & the hilarious forensic detail some of us go to hide the signs from a new visitor to our fun rooms.

But what about the bloody cell phone & tablet cameras?? I love to take action pics & the girls delight in selfies but always forget to move / delete pics from the previous session.

You can hear the crickets when they snap a selfie & then flick back through the gallery & there they are in all their glory, previous girl and the girls before them. I got to the stage of not keeping a camera around at all sometimes.

AV.

Hutsori
10-23-14, 06:44
Yup! FF know it well.

Recently there was a whole flurry of posts on ISG discussing the post bonk cleanup & the hilarious forensic detail some of us go to hide the signs from a new visitor to our fun rooms.

But what about the bloody cell phone & tablet cameras?? I love to take action pics & the girls delight in selfies but always forget to move / delete pics from the previous session.

You can hear the crickets when they snap a selfie & then flick back through the gallery & there they are in all their glory, previous girl and the girls before them. I got to the stage of not keeping a camera around at all sometimes.

AV.I love the photos a girl sends. "I'm in the province (Northern Luzon) with my family." Geotags in photo says she's at El Nido on Palawan.

Here's a tech tip: Before a girl arrives at your place turn off your wifi.

Hutsori
10-24-14, 01:18
I find FB tedious. Yes I agree you can quickly find them out because FB is so promiscuous by default.

But it works against you also. I go to all this friggin trouble of setting up a mongering FB page & then one of them goes and tags & comments every bloody pic on my FB account! Every new female visitor them immediately 'friends' her and they blab. Have to constantly fiddle with and lock down the settings in FB and keep checking back constantly in case FB has reset them to default again with out notifying me.

For all our derision of wastebook it does have one very compelling advantage: Ubiquity. Text from a friend who is in the provinces: "I never had internet since I moved back home from manila. I only have facebook on phone. " The local telcos have teamed with FB to provide very affordable all-day deals that include unlimited texting and unlimited FB but no other Internet. For many girls FB is their sole dating site.

One just needs to take the proper precautions to prevent spillage.

Cool Traveler
10-24-14, 15:43
I got caught once. One of the girls I frequent. She is gorgeous, and I am addicted to her perfect body. Met her on FC.

Anyway, she comes in early morning. I pay the janitorial staff to do extra cleanup. The room was clean. But she happened to see the huge orange Priority Tag on my luggage, and decided to look at the arrival date on the luggage tag. I mean, who would have even thought then one would scrutinize a luggage tag. I had told her I arrived the night before, when in fact I had arrived 2 days earlier. She was an analyst at a local bank. That morning was the last I saw her. Still miss her.

When you check into your hotel, make it a point to tip the guys who clean the rooms right away. I usually give them a 50 peso tip. Then once one girl leaves, and if they are still outside cleaning. I call them in to clean one more time, and tip them again another 50 peso. They clean, and leave bunch of extra water bottles and such.


Yup! FF know it well.

Recently there was a whole flurry of posts on ISG discussing the post bonk cleanup & the hilarious forensic detail some of us go to hide the signs from a new visitor to our fun rooms.

But what about the bloody cell phone & tablet cameras?? I love to take action pics & the girls delight in selfies but always forget to move / delete pics from the previous session.

You can hear the crickets when they snap a selfie & then flick back through the gallery & there they are in all their glory, previous girl and the girls before them. I got to the stage of not keeping a camera around at all sometimes.

AV.

JPF
10-24-14, 18:05
For all our derision of wastebook it does have one very compelling advantage: Ubiquity. Text from a friend who is in the provinces: "I never had internet since I moved back home from manila. I only have facebook on phone. " The local telcos have teamed with FB to provide very affordable all-day deals that include unlimited texting and unlimited FB but no other Internet. For many girls FB is their sole dating site.
Facebook ended its Facebook Zero program with Globe on April 25,2014. Do you know how subscribers can get the deals you talk about? I. e. The SMS string to use (or a link to the page that describes it because I can't find it) on the different carriers?

Hutsori
10-24-14, 18:57
Facebook ended its Facebook Zero program with Globe on April 25,2014. Do you know how subscribers can get the deals you talk about? I. e. The SMS string to use (or a link to the page that describes it because I can't find it) on the different carriers?I'm not a wastebook user; I use Smart's mega250 promotion that gets me a month a texts, 180 minutes of voice calls, and 100 mb of Internet. Promotions come and go, and one's that do exist often seem to have a gotcha, such as Globe's unlimited Internet that is limited. Perhaps this will help you, http://www1.smart.com.ph/pages/freeinternet, or this, http://www1.smart.com.ph/pages/facebook/home, or this, http://www1.smart.com.ph/Pages/facebook/mobile-app . Read the fine print - seems one could be subject to other fees.

Member #4387
10-25-14, 02:31
I got caught once. One of the girls I frequent. She is gorgeous, and I am addicted to her perfect body. Met her on FC.

Anyway, she comes in early morning. I pay the janitorial staff to do extra cleanup. The room was clean. But she happened to see the huge orange Priority Tag on my luggage, and decided to look at the arrival date on the luggage tag. I mean, who would have even thought then one would scrutinize a luggage tag. I had told her I arrived the night before, when in fact I had arrived 2 days earlier. She was an analyst at a local bank. That morning was the last I saw her. Still miss her.

When you check into your hotel, make it a point to tip the guys who clean the rooms right away. I usually give them a 50 peso tip. Then once one girl leaves, and if they are still outside cleaning. I call them in to clean one more time, and tip them again another 50 peso. They clean, and leave bunch of extra water bottles and such.After like you some wrongdoings I now allways remove the baggage tag.

Member #4387
10-25-14, 02:39
I got caught once. One of the girls I frequent. She is gorgeous, and I am addicted to her perfect body. Met her on FC.

Anyway, she comes in early morning. I pay the janitorial staff to do extra cleanup. The room was clean. But she happened to see the huge orange Priority Tag on my luggage, and decided to look at the arrival date on the luggage tag. I mean, who would have even thought then one would scrutinize a luggage tag. I had told her I arrived the night before, when in fact I had arrived 2 days earlier. She was an analyst at a local bank. That morning was the last I saw her. Still miss her.

When you check into your hotel, make it a point to tip the guys who clean the rooms right away. I usually give them a 50 peso tip. Then once one girl leaves, and if they are still outside cleaning. I call them in to clean one more time, and tip them again another 50 peso. They clean, and leave bunch of extra water bottles and such.After like you some wrongdoings I now allways remove the baggage tag.

I had a few girls investigating and when confronted it takes to much improvisation to be fun anymore. Here it goes: I have mostly 2/3 girls coming each day I stay in Makati (yeah I know I was about to slow it down but the preassure is everywhere and I have long lists of girls waiting for a shag and donations). I alter girls that the 3 first know I arrive same date as actually do, second set of girls, next day, believe I arrive the same day as we shag and so on. Evidence removals important and sometimes also switch apartment in the middle of my stay have become a close friend.

I don't want to seem as one doing multiple girls, hehe.

Robbaf
10-25-14, 02:59
A couple of years old I was staying on Burgos and I took a girl out of a bar back to my hotel and she started her monthly and bleed all over a hand towel. The following morning at 0700 I had a previous friend working at a call center showing up. So I got up and requested housekeeping to clean the room, while I took a taxi to pick her up. We arrived back in the room and everything seemed perfect, until the houseboy knocked, with the bloody towel in a plastic bag, telling me that I would have to pay for the bloody towel. Needless to say, call center left the room ASAP. Hahahaha.

Robb.

Rubio Tonto
10-25-14, 03:49
A couple of years old I was staying on Burgos and I took a girl out of a bar back to my hotel and she started her monthly and bleed all over a hand towel. The following morning at 0700 I had a previous friend working at a call center showing up. So I got up and requested housekeeping to clean the room, while I took a taxi to pick her up. We arrived back in the room and everything seemed perfect, until the houseboy knocked, with the bloody towel in a plastic bag, telling me that I would have to pay for the bloody towel. Needless to say, call center left the room ASAP. Hahahaha.

Robb.Fucking idiots. Only in the Philippines do they manage to inform you in the worst way possible out of all the different options! Hahahaha.

OsakaGin11
10-25-14, 05:28
I will be arriving late this Wednesday evening, Oct. 29th and by the time I check into my hotel and take a taxi, I should be at the MBC some where around 1. 00 - 1. 30 am.

I haven't been there to the MBC for a fair while and I was wondering if the "system" has changed there, as I have been reading that there is now some pressure on by the bar staff, to buy some of the gals there LD's. Is that true or is that my misinterpretation?

Also what will the pickings by like, at that time of the night? Any ideas on that?

Previously several years ago, I have had a bit of success there, but as I said I haven't been there for several years now.

Thanks in advance.

Mr Hawaii
10-25-14, 06:22
I will be arriving late this Wednesday evening, Oct. 29th and by the time I check into my hotel and take a taxi, I should be at the MBC some where around 1. 00 - 1. 30 am.

I haven't been there to the MBC for a fair while and I was wondering if the "system" has changed there, as I have been reading that there is now some pressure on by the bar staff, to buy some of the gals there LD's. Is that true

Thanks in advance.Was there in June, and did notice that the waitresses are standing by the door to take your drink order as soon as you enter the place. I assume this is to discourage those who come in, walk around, then leave. Did not notice any pressure to buy ladies drink, although if you talk to one at the bar, the waitress did ask me if "you want to buy the lady a drink?" I just said "No", and that was the end of it. The quality of women? Very subjective, but I think it is still hit and miss. I did not notice any "fresh" college girls this time, as was common a few years ago.

AfAsia
10-25-14, 09:58
I haven't been there to the MBC for a fair while and I was wondering if the "system" has changed there, as I have been reading that there is now some pressure on by the bar staff, to buy some of the gals there LD's. Is that true or is that my misinterpretation?

Was there Sunday, not one girl asked me for a drink in over four hours. Admittedly this was quite early 4 pm - 8 pm after which I left with my pick. None of the bar staff requested lady drinks at all. I think LA cafe has improved since I was last there almost two years back. I enjoyed my visit and happy to have left as my choice gave me a GOOOD ride.

Slippery
10-25-14, 21:58
Was there Sunday, not one girl asked me for a drink in over four hours. Admittedly this was quite early 4 pm - 8 pm after which I left with my pick. None of the bar staff requested lady drinks at all. I think LA cafe has improved since I was last there almost two years back. I enjoyed my visit and happy to have left as my choice gave me a GOOOD ride.The girls won't ask for a drink but management will require you to buy one if they haven't and you want to take them out of the dump.

Radical Guy
10-26-14, 01:03
The girls won't ask for a drink but management will require you to buy one if they haven't and you want to take them out of the dump.Well, that's a reasonable request. San Miguel is reasonably priced, like 90 pesos a bottle. They have a right to ask you to buy something when you loiter on their premises shopping for pussy, don't you think?

RG.

Pip Jaeger
10-26-14, 01:20
Well, that's a reasonable request. San Miguel is reasonably priced, like 90 pesos a bottle. They have a right to ask you to buy something when you loiter on their premises shopping for pussy, don't you think?

RG.RG, the long standing policy at MBC has been for a guy to buy a girl a ladies drink if she's going to leave with him, I think that what Slip meant. And most girls will dodge the policy by meeting you up the street. And the p90 price you mentioned sounds about right for your beer, but last I heard a LD is p300.

Slippery
10-26-14, 09:45
RG, the long standing policy at MBC has been for a guy to buy a girl a ladies drink if she's going to leave with him, I think that what Slip meant. And most girls will dodge the policy by meeting you up the street. And the p90 price you mentioned sounds about right for your beer, but last I heard a LD is p300.Perhaps it is, but when your talking about the weather with a girl and a waitress taps you on the shoulder 3 times in 3 minutes and asks you if you want to buy her a drink, it gets quite annoying. I've been treated better on Fields.

Sammon
10-26-14, 11:59
RG, the long standing policy at MBC has been for a guy to buy a girl a ladies drink if she's going to leave with him, I think that what Slip meant. And most girls will dodge the policy by meeting you up the street. And the p90 price you mentioned sounds about right for your beer, but last I heard a LD is p300.90 P beer price jumps to 120 in the evenings.

Slippery
10-26-14, 20:44
I'm not a cheap bastard by any means but that day, they kept bothering me about buying a girl a drink who just came up and sat next to me. I didn't invite her over. It was soooooooo irritating that I haven't been back in the place since. Can a guy just stop for a cold beer on a hot day? Is every guy that goes into the place a tourist?

Amavida
10-26-14, 20:54
I'm not a cheap bastard by any means but that day, they kept bothering me about buying a girl a drink who just came up and sat next to me. I didn't invite her over. It was soooooooo irritating that I haven't been back in the place since. Can a guy just stop for a cold beer on a hot day? Is every guy that goes into the place a tourist?Just smile & say "No thanks, I'm just here for a cold beer on a hot day". Its not hard really. Same method for street hawkers.

AV.

WestCoast1
10-26-14, 20:59
I'm not a cheap bastard by any means but that day, they kept bothering me about buying a girl a drink who just came up and sat next to me. I didn't invite her over. It was soooooooo irritating that I haven't been back in the place since. Can a guy just stop for a cold beer on a hot day? Is every guy that goes into the place a tourist?You can get better than that from them. Tell the waitress (quietly, in her ear) you don't want to chat the girl, you want privacy and to enjoy your drink alone, and she will shoo the girl away (you will get a nasty look from the girl). After the girl vacates her seat, another will probably take her place next to you (you can't control that). However, the waitress will stop bothering you to purchase the LD.

I've found it helpful to pay for each drink as its delivered. Have the money waiting in your hand when they bring the drink, and before the waitress can drop the drink-order slip in the container in front of you. That way you can pick up and walk about the bar freely with your drink, without carrying that wooden container around. You can also leave the bar at the drop of a hat without having to pay later. I never have more than one drink in MBC or Amazonia anyway; if I can't choose a girl and get out in 15-20 minutes I've probably done something wrong. On occasion I play a game or two of pool there in the back room, but I'm still out the door in 30 minutes and one drink.

D Cups
10-26-14, 23:47
You can also leave the bar at the drop of a hat without having to pay later. I never have more than one drink in MBC or Amazonia anyway; if I can't choose a girl and get out in 15-20 minutes I've probably done something wrong. On occasion I play a game or two of pool there in the back room, but I'm still out the door in 30 minutes and one drink.I have similar MO. If I'm semi interested I will buy them / me a drink or offer to share mine with her or shake the schwantztooka and ask her if she want a sperm smoothie.

Hutsori
10-27-14, 04:25
RG, the long standing policy at MBC has been for a guy to buy a girl a ladies drink if she's going to leave with him, I think that what Slip meant. And most girls will dodge the policy by meeting you up the street. And the p90 price you mentioned sounds about right for your beer, but last I heard a LD is p300.They don't have anything called a LD on the menu. What they do have is a p300 shake. If you ask a girl "What are you drinking?" or "Do you want a beer?" the waitress will tell her to buy a shake. This has even happened to regular girls I've brought in from outside.

Pip Jaeger
10-27-14, 10:23
They don't have anything called a LD on the menu. What they do have is a p300 shake. If you ask a girl "What are you drinking?" or "Do you want a beer?" the waitress will tell her to buy a shake. This has even happened to regular girls I've brought in from outside.My my, aren't we being picky, LOL. Same as a bar fine / EWR, no matter what you label it, it's still the same. Maybe they don't call it a "Lady's Drink", but they still expect you buy an overpriced drink for the lady if you intend on leaving together with her; that was the point I was trying to make.

Hutsori
10-27-14, 10:36
My my, aren't we being picky, LOL. Same as a bar fine / EWR, no matter what you label it, it's still the same. Maybe they don't call it a "Lady's Drink", but they still expect you buy an overpriced drink for the lady if you intend on leaving together with her; that was the point I was trying to make.Sorry if I was being "picky". It wasn't my intent. I try to keep things a clear as possible, and often fail, mainly to benefit those readers who are new to the scene. One reads about LDs at bars in Angeles, EDSA, Burgos, etc. one may conclude the same exists at LA. My point is you may buy the girl any drink you wish, but you'll have to take charge and tell the waitress something direct like, "She's having what I'm having." Leave it up to the girl to choose in front of the waitress and the waitress will push her to the p300 shake.

Avoloz
10-28-14, 12:04
Sorry I haven't been much on the forum lately.

In case this information has not been mentioned before, Casa Ermita is now called Bistro Emilio. It's still located at 463 UN ave corner Cortada St in Ermita. The managers Jimmy and Toto really look after you, well I had no issues during several visits. The selection of girls covers a wide range of tastes. Prices still go for P1,500 to 2,000 for all night. I'll be back in November. Enjoy.

Red Kilt
10-29-14, 04:16
Casa Ermita is now called Bistro Emilio. It's still located at xxx UN ave corner xxx St in Ermita. The managers Jimmy and Toto really look after you, well I had no issues during several visits. The selection of girls covers a wide range of tastes. Prices still go for P1,500 to 2,000 for all night. I'll be back in November. Enjoy.I know you are being helpful to ISG members but you are also helping local law enforcement agencies who regularly read the ISG forum by putting this information on the open boardfor them and for the cheap charlie non-members who lurk here. (believe me; the local NBI and CIDG groups DO read it).

I hope Jimmy and Toto can deal with the repercussions. Much more sensible for posters to be more circumspect with address and details and suggest that members contact you by PM.

Hutsori
10-30-14, 01:43
I know you are being helpful to ISG members but you are also helping local law enforcement agencies who regularly read the ISG forum by putting this information on the open boardfor them and for the cheap charlie non-members who lurk here. (believe me; the local NBI and CIDG groups DO read it).

I hope Jimmy and Toto can deal with the repercussions. Much more sensible for posters to be more circumspect with address and details and suggest that members contact you by PM.Or look on the bright side. More customers = more profits = richer takings by the police. Law enforcement lurkers, let's look to win-win solutions.

And yes, Red, you are right.

Avoloz
10-30-14, 03:51
Sorry folks. Did not think along these lines.

Have requested to remove my post.

Cheers.

OneIpole
10-30-14, 15:07
I feel the pain for newbies. I tried to find info about heartbeats in QC. My god I can't find anything. I give up:

OldJedi
10-30-14, 17:19
LA is sometimes too full with pros, at G-Spot normally no interesting girls.

Amazonina seams to be the cemetery of LA-Cafe.

(Was a nice place in the old times, named Firehouse this times).

So any interesting bars / Cafes in the Malate area?

Thanks in advance for every PM tip.

Sammon
10-30-14, 21:46
LA is sometimes too full with pros, at G-Spot normally no interesting girls.

Amazonina seams to be the cemetery of LA-Cafe.

(Was a nice place in the old times, named Firehouse this times).

So any interesting bars / Cafes in the Malate area?

Thanks in advance for every PM tip.There are many bars on Del Pilar. There are Hostesses in Some. Depending on your mthod of attracting and closing the deal some of the hostesses are available.

Many freelancers walking at Robinson, Malate. I am sure you saw the location of one of the casa here. There are other casas as well. A trusted Cab driver will take you to one or many.

If you do not want all the "ifs" MBC (Formerly LA cafe) is the best bet. I have taked hard core girls and soft core (Students and surrounding province girls looking to make a buck) . Service generally is surprisingly good from both. Only thing is you need to firm on negotiations. I usually negotiate lower but give little more if the service is good.

Surrounding province girls are very horny but it is not easy to know. Most of them have a child. Good looking college spinners go for the Korean type.

Slippery
10-30-14, 21:49
Perhaps you might find more interesting girls if you go to G Point. If you can't use the correct name, its obvious that you haven't spent much time there. Thank you for your input.

Amavida
10-31-14, 02:53
I feel the pain for newbies. I tried to find info about heartbeats in QC. My god I can't find anything. I give up:This Heartbeats?

http://ktvguide.********.com.au/2010/05/heartbeat.html No idea why this is obfuscated, pm me if you cant figure it out
http://ph.wowcity.com/quezoncity/gpid/112754692168540273458/heartbeat-mega-disco.htm

http://www.businesslist.ph/company/167059/heartbeat-mega-ktv

AV.

Kabul Guy
10-31-14, 02:53
Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival.

My plan was to check my luggage at the upscale hotel then heading to Amazonia and getting a room there and then getting some morning companionship from there or Manila Bay (or G Spot?) to pass the time with until check in time at regular hotel.

After reading the posts below this may not be such a good idea.

Any idea is this would be a viable plan?

Which would be recommended place. For a 6 am to noon hook up?

What would be going rate for a lady or two for the morning?

Any other ideas on how to pass the morning until I can check. Into hotel?

A massage place. Offering FS would be another option. Any open then?

Amavida
10-31-14, 02:59
Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM.Manila is a big city of 20 million people with horrendous traffic. It would help if you said where you are primarily staying.

AV.

Hutsori
10-31-14, 03:51
Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival.

My plan was to check my luggage at the upscale hotel then heading to Amazonia and getting a room there and then getting some morning companionship from there or Manila Bay (or G Spot?) to pass the time with until check in time at regular hotel.

After reading the posts below this may not be such a good idea.

Any idea is this would be a viable plan?

Which would be recommended place. For a 6 am to noon hook up?

What would be going rate for a lady or two for the morning?

Any other ideas on how to pass the morning until I can check. Into hotel?

A massage place. Offering FS would be another option. Any open then?Amazonia is often a ghost town at any hour, so if paranormal ghost bustin' is your thing... Happy Halloween everybody! GPoint closes at 3 am or so. It re-opens in the morning to get ready for the lunch buffet, but I doubt there are any women there until the night. There is a small hotel right next door to LA Cafe. Look in the Manila Hotels thread for its name. You can find a dozen or two women at LA from about 7 am to 11 am, and then more start arriving for the afternoon. Keep in mind that supply follows demand. If there are still many guys there at 5-6 am many of the night time girls will stick around too.

D Cups
10-31-14, 05:00
You can find a dozen or two women at LA from about 7 am to 11 am. If there are still many guys there at 5-6 am many of the night time girls will stick around too.Yes, hooked up with a delicious lactating young mama at 6 AM there at LAC last June. Considering my plane landed at 4:30 AM I was super happy. What a nice welcome to the PI!

Key Master
10-31-14, 06:47
Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival.

My plan was to check my luggage at the upscale hotel then heading to Amazonia and getting a room there and then getting some morning companionship from there or Manila Bay (or G Spot?) to pass the time with until check in time at regular hotel.

After reading the posts below this may not be such a good idea.

Any idea is this would be a viable plan?

Which would be recommended place. For a 6 am to noon hook up?

What would be going rate for a lady or two for the morning?

Any other ideas on how to pass the morning until I can check. Into hotel?

A massage place. Offering FS would be another option. Any open then?Just a few comments regarding your situation. It's possible your hotel may allow you to check in early, it never hurts to ask. At that time, I'd probably recommend LA Cafe if you really want to try for a hook up. You will probably get approached by people offering themselves or to find you someone also just by walking in that area. Be smart. Amazonia is not the only short time hotel in that area. If you are not able to check in and find yourself bored at LAC or other, you can always go to a mall and hangout. I think most open up about 10 am. You will probably be able to check in also by around 11 or 12 possibly to your hotel also if they aren't really busy, something I'd ask when you leave your bags at your selected hotel.

In regards to that time, there's no guarantee you will find someone to your liking, but really you won't know unless you try. It's not the most ideal time but you never know what you might come upon.

Kabul Guy
10-31-14, 07:48
Manila is a big city of 20 million people with horrendous traffic. It would help if you said where you are primarily staying.

AV.Purpose of layover is to monger and get over jet lag so I am open to staying anywhere.

High end hotel was gong to be Hyatt in Malate but can be anywhere.

Key Master
10-31-14, 08:07
Purpose of layover is to monger and get over jet lag so I am open to staying anywhere.

High end hotel was gong to be Hyatt in Malate but can be anywhere.Pretty sure they also have a casino there. You may be able to find a gambling addict from there who is down on their luck looking to replenish their funds.

Poolmover
10-31-14, 09:35
Pretty sure they also have a casino there. You may be able to find a gambling addict from there who is down on their luck looking to replenish their funds.They sure do have a casino, and a club across the street 2nd floor.

PM.

Hutsori
10-31-14, 09:44
Pretty sure they also have a casino there. You may be able to find a gambling addict from there who is down on their luck looking to replenish their funds.There certainly is a casino there. One may even find the girl one picked up earlier at LA gambling away what one paid her.

To OP, as said earlier see whether the Hyatt will accommodate your early check in at a reduced rate or even no charge. Never hurts to ask. LA is really your only option unless you work the dating sites. A lot of call centre girls finish in the morning. In addition to the hotel next to LA and Amazonia you could go to the Sogo. There are even a few pensions in the area. There was a comment 12 -18 months ago by someone who put together a list or found a list of all the hotels, including a lot of the very affordable places.

WhatsUrName
10-31-14, 10:00
Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival.

My plan was to check my luggage at the upscale hotel then heading to Amazonia and getting a room there and then getting some morning companionship from there or Manila Bay (or G Spot?) to pass the time with until check in time at regular hotel.

After reading the posts below this may not be such a good idea.

Any idea is this would be a viable plan?

Which would be recommended place. For a 6 am to noon hook up?

What would be going rate for a lady or two for the morning?

Any other ideas on how to pass the morning until I can check. Into hotel?

A massage place. Offering FS would be another option. Any open then?Hey KG, try Cherry Blossom up next to the mall. Or you can try this place, which is right next door to LA:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2505-Manila-Hotels&p=1425393#post1425393.

Pratty69
10-31-14, 10:25
Hi fellow mongers,

I am going to be visiting Manila for the first time. Read a lot about LA and G Spot. I am going to stay in Pasig area near Ortigas Business Centre. Wanted to know if the hotels in this area are Girl Friendly? Also if there are good places to move around and find some good pussy. Will really appreciate some help and even I am open to team up with any member for mongering. Please PM me in case you have some contacts. Any help will be greatly appreciated and in turn any help in India if needed will be given.

Thanks in advance.

Pratty69

Kabul Guy
10-31-14, 11:10
Pretty sure they also have a casino there. You may be able to find a gambling addict from there who is down on their luck looking to replenish their funds.That might work for first full night here, but I am looking for some action in early AM. With jet lag that is early evening according to where my body clock will be then.

OldJedi
10-31-14, 14:33
Perhaps you might find more interesting girls if you go to G Point. If you can't use the correct name, its obvious that you haven't spent much time there. Thank you for your input.Oh, what a crime. I've actually written G-spot instead of G-Points. For this sacrilege I will surely burn in hell.

I was in there a few times. But never satisfied with the selection, quite old semester.

Cool Traveler
10-31-14, 16:48
Which ever hotel you book into, call ahead and find out their am check in policies. Some will allow, and some won't. Also to do with season, and how busy the hotel is. Remember people checkout in the AM. And staff got to clean the hotel. Cleaning staff normally do not get it or start until 8 am. So, when you get the to the hotel, look happy, and nicely ask to be helped out. Tell them you really need to crash, and can you check in early.

I arrived at Intercon at 4:30 am. They checked me in. I was not expecting that. So, it was nice, even though I hadn't planned any hookups.

CT


Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival.

My plan was to check my luggage at the upscale hotel then heading to Amazonia and getting a room there and then getting some morning companionship from there or Manila Bay (or G Spot?) to pass the time with until check in time at regular hotel.

After reading the posts below this may not be such a good idea.

Any idea is this would be a viable plan?

Which would be recommended place. For a 6 am to noon hook up?

What would be going rate for a lady or two for the morning?

Any other ideas on how to pass the morning until I can check. Into hotel?

A massage place. Offering FS would be another option. Any open then?

Wicked Roger
10-31-14, 18:57
Hi fellow mongers,

I am going to be visiting Manila for the first time. Read a lot about LA and G Spot. I am going to stay in Pasig area near Ortigas Business Centre. Wanted to know if the hotels in this area are Girl Friendly? Also if there are good places to move around and find some good pussy. Will really appreciate some help and even I am open to team up with any member for mongering. Please PM me in case you have some contacts. Any help will be greatly appreciated and in turn any help in India if needed will be given.Pratty,

There is a wealth of information on those questions in this thread so why not try RTFF? You will be very surprised by what you find. Also look for FRs on 'give and take'.

In the UAE board Pratty et al is called a 'manager' for reasonably obvious reasons. And also look up the UK colloquial definition of your handle as also pertinent.

Slippery he said G Spot just as JM did LOL.

Wicked Roger
10-31-14, 18:59
Oh, what a crime. I've actually written G-spot instead of G-Points. For this sacrilege I will surely burn in hell.

I was in there a few times. But never satisfied with the selection, quite old semester.JM,

We all make mistakes as age plays tricks on the memory but you have 7 FRs over 9 years (the fort being 2005) and have been to the Philippines before so why no FRs. Just a question as maybe the choice in the Philippines is not up to the standards you need (which would seriously surprise me and many others) or?

Red Kilt
11-01-14, 04:15
. . I am going to stay in Pasig area near Ortigas Business Centre. Wanted to know if the hotels in this area are Girl Friendly? Also if there are good places to move around and find some good pussy. You need to know (had you read the forum you would already know) that there are very few opportunities to pick up or meet girls in Ortigas area despite there being 4 large malls within a short distance.

Most hotels in Ortigas Center area are GF but most are also 3 and 4-star so you will attract attention if you arrive late at night with some slutty-looking bar girl. Because you are staying in Ortigas I can assume you are in Manila on business so you might want to fly under the radar, especially if your company has booked your accommodation.

Whatever. . you will have to cover distances ranging from 30 - 90 minutes or even longer (we measure distances in terms of time in Manila) depending on the day and the busy rush-hour time with the traffic, especially if you wish to go to Makati or LAC or anywhere in Malate / Ermita. If you are serious about mongering you should stay somewhere else other than Ortigas.

And, as WR advises, do some homework by reading the past posts where all of your queries are answered in detail.

Poolmover
11-01-14, 12:53
They are definitely girl friendly, throw the bellman 500 and he will bring you one of your choice of age, weight, etc. I've done it.

Holiday inn, Crowne plaza. And all those malls are Attached or in walking distance to test your skills or get her a "pair of shoes" for her efforts.

Red Kilt
11-01-14, 13:26
They are definitely girl friendly, throw the bellman 500 and he will bring you one of your choice of age, weight, etc. I've done it.

Holiday inn, Crowne plaza. And all those malls are Attached or in walking distance to test your skills or get her a "pair of shoes" for her efforts.Holiday Inn and Crowne Plaza are both linked to Robinson's Galleria; Shangri-la EDSA hotel is linked to Shangri-la Plaza. The other malls (SM Megamall, Podium) do not have attached hotels but there are numerous hotels that are a relatively short-walk away.

As Poolmover says, you can call up any number of masseuses or get a bellman to "procure" you a girl in any hotel pretty much anywhere in the world, so no surprise he's done it in Ortigas. Craig's List frequently features "Ortigas" girls too, but I suggest that in general the malls in Ortigas listed above are NOT like Robinson's in Malate, for example, and your chances of finding any strolling gfs are extremely unlikely.

No doubt someone will boast of finding someone in one of the Ortigas malls but I suggest that, if so, it was a lucky stroke and mongers will waste a lot of time and energy if they go trolling there as it will be very hit-or-miss and you may need to be young, blonde and blue-eyed.

One place where a friend told me he had some success is Starmall across from Shangri-la Plaza on the Shaw Boulevard-EDSA Crossing corner. It's very much a "local" shopping area and foreigners are rarely seen there. There is a Padi's Point there. These are local bars which are here and there around metro Manila and are sometimes a place to meet people. There is no "bar scene" in Ortigas as in Makati, and Metrowalk on the edge of Ortigas is the best-known live music resto-bar scene in the area.

Fast Eddie 48
11-03-14, 00:13
Which ever hotel you book into, call ahead and find out their am check in policies. Some will allow, and some won't. Also to do with season, and how busy the hotel is. Remember people checkout in the AM. And staff got to clean the hotel. Cleaning staff normally do not get it or start until 8 am. So, when you get the to the hotel, look happy, and nicely ask to be helped out. Tell them you really need to crash, and can you check in early.

I arrived at Intercon at 4:30 am. They checked me in. I was not expecting that. So, it was nice, even though I hadn't planned any hookups.

CTTo Cool Traveler.

I am very surprise they allow you to check in so early, I know most hotel will charge you 30-50% for checking in early most hotel will charge you for any little thing like a extra pillow or stain on a towel.

Fast eddie 48.

Amavida
11-03-14, 03:39
To Cool Traveler.

I am very surprise they allow you to check in so early, I know most hotel will charge you 30-50% for checking in early most hotel will charge you for any little thing like a extra pillow or stain on a towel.

Fast eddie 48.The more expensive, the less flexible unless you are in the multi millionaire circle. Depends also on the desk girl, some are sweeties who will happily bend the rules with a smile and a nod.

AV.

OneIpole
11-04-14, 11:25
This Heartbeats?

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http://ph.wowcity.com/quezoncity/gpid/112754692168540273458/heartbeat-mega-disco.htm

http://www.businesslist.ph/company/167059/heartbeat-mega-ktv

AV.I appreciate it bro, but I meant here in side ISG. I was looking for a report of how someone liked it and what they thought.

OneIpole
11-04-14, 11:29
Its getting close to Christmas time. That means stealing and robing time. My friend got it two days ago (although he is filipino). On the bus a guy sat next to him, pulled out a gun and took his cellphone.

Also be careful of cabs.

Amanut
11-04-14, 15:59
Next time through Manila I will be aarriving early AM. I will be booking an upscale hotel for the following couple of nights but do not want to pay full night for a 5 am arrival. Flights from Canada on PAL arrive at about 05:00. On my first trip to Manila my travel agent in Canada contacted the Dusit and arranged an early check in for me at no extra charge. When I arrived at the hotel the staff were perfect and welcoming saying "we have been expecting you Mr. Nut" and up to the room I went. My suggestion is if you are using a travel agent it may be worth having your travel agent send an e-mail requesting an early check in on your behalf.

D Cups
11-05-14, 02:55
[QUOTE=Amanut; send an e-mail requesting an early check in on your behalf. Ya, I forgot to do that but Century Park hotel still checked me in early at 5:00 AM at no extra charge. Then they moved me to a better room at 1 PM. I really like it here.

Pcpc1688
11-06-14, 23:15
Hello All,

Any comments on if I should stay at this place? Main purpose is not really hanging out over at P Burgos every night but takeout and some DIA pre set up dates. Also perhaps play some poker at Solaire. Would this location be inconvenient as on map it seems far from these places. Any helpful comments appreciated here or PM.

I'm getting a great rate of $30 day and thought about Makati area too but need to make a decision soon LOL.

SM Light Residences, Madison, Mandaluyong, Metro Manila, Philippines.

PC out.

Hutsori
11-07-14, 01:08
Hello All,

Any comments on if I should stay at this place? Main purpose is not really hanging out over at P Burgos every night but takeout and some DIA pre set up dates. Also perhaps play some poker at Solaire. Would this location be inconvenient as on map it seems far from these places. Any helpful comments appreciated here or PM.

I'm getting a great rate of $30 day and thought about Makati area too but need to make a decision soon LOL.

SM Light Residences, Madison, Mandaluyong, Metro Manila, Philippines.

PC out.1) Depends on what time you plan to go to Burgos. Traffic starts getting heavy from 4 pm and doesn't abate until 9 pm or even later. Your taxi should be from p100 to p150.

2) For meeting DIA girls it's a decent location because it's very near Boni Ave MRT and EDSA, and this makes it easy for a girl to visit you. If you're the type that wants to meet at a public location first you're a short distance from Shangri La mall. There's also a Robinson's Galleria and SM Mega Mall close by. Quezon City, which is Metro Manila's largest city, is just down the road; plenty of girls from QC in DIA. BTW, there are several large call centres in the area if you're into morning hookups.

3) Solaire is far, but is a straight shot down EDSA. Like traveling to Burgos the time of day you travel is important. Traveling to / from SM Light Residences and Solaire may actually be easier and faster than doing so from a place near Burgos.

Pcpc1688
11-07-14, 01:51
1) Depends on what time you plan to go to Burgos. Traffic starts getting heavy from 4 pm and doesn't abate until 9 pm or even later. Your taxi should be from p100 to p150.

How much is taxi from airport and what kind should I take not to get clipped and On meter better I suppose?

2) For meeting DIA girls it's a decent location because it's very near Boni Ave MRT and EDSA, and this makes it easy for a girl to visit you. If you're the type that wants to meet at a public location first you're a short distance from Shangri La mall. There's also a Robinson's Galleria and SM Mega Mall close by. Quezon City, which is Metro Manila's largest city, is just down the road; plenty of girls from QC in DIA. BTW, there are several large call centres in the area if you're into morning hookups.

Speaking of MRT system in Manila, is it safe and fast? Whats the call center reference you speak of as Im not sure what u mean by that?

3) Solaire is far, but is a straight shot down EDSA. Like traveling to Burgos the time of day you travel is important. Traveling to / from SM Light Residences and Solaire may actually be easier and faster than doing so from a place near Burgos.Is taxi or Metro better to go there as I am flexible time wise as no rush to anywhere really haha. Just a short vacation and hooking up.

also are there pre paid SIM cards for my phone at airport or do I need to go to mobile store to buy. Best place to change USD to pesos?

PC out.

Hutsori
11-07-14, 02:45
Is taxi or Metro better to go there as I am flexible time wise as no rush to anywhere really haha. Just a short vacation and hooking up.

also are there pre paid SIM cards for my phone at airport or do I need to go to mobile store to buy. Best place to change USD to pesos?

PC out.Define "better". I use mass transport more often than taxis during the daytime. It's certainly cheaper. But I also weigh time and effort wih the saving. For example traveling from my condo in Makati to Resorts World by taxi is p120 plus p20 for the Skyway toll. It usually takes less than 15 minutes. Using mass transit would be considerably slower involving a jeep ride, then the MRT, and the RW shuttle. During the daytime the MRT / LRT may be better, but during the rush hours they are packed. Of course getting a taxi during rush hour or when it rains can be difficult too. The MRT / LRT cease service at approx 1030 pm. People are advised to use taxis at night, and I usually do so unless I have a short commute when I'll use the jeep. You can pick up a SIM easily at most markets and convenience stores too. I don't know what terminal you'll be arriving at; in terminal 3 there is a small grocer that sells SIMs for small mark up, p50 for a p40 Smart SIM. Keep in mind that there are three types of SIMs, so finding the micro or nano SIM can be a bit more challenging. The Muslim money changers usually have the best rate except on the weekend when they lower the rate by p1 - p1.5. You can usually find money changers in or near malls, but I don't know about your neighbourhood. The banks rates aren't greatly different, but the transaction is slow. If you're here for a short stay and not changing thousands of dollars / euros then the few hundred extra pesos you get by using a Muslim may not be worth the hassle if the journey is far.

Pcpc1688
11-07-14, 03:36
Define "better". I use mass transport more often than taxis during the daytime. It's certainly cheaper. But I also weigh time and effort wih the saving. For example traveling from my condo in Makati to Resorts World by taxi is p120 plus p20 for the Skyway toll. It usually takes less than 15 minutes. Using mass transit would be considerably slower involving a jeep ride, then the MRT, and the RW shuttle. During the daytime the MRT / LRT may be better, but during the rush hours they are packed. Of course getting a taxi during rush hour or when it rains can be difficult too. The MRT / LRT cease service at approx 1030 pm. People are advised to use taxis at night, and I usually do so unless I have a short commute when I'll use the jeep. You can pick up a SIM easily at most markets and convenience stores too. I don't know what terminal you'll be arriving at; in terminal 3 there is a small grocer that sells SIMs for small mark up, p50 for a p40 Smart SIM. Keep in mind that there are three types of SIMs, so finding the micro or nano SIM can be a bit more challenging. The Muslim money changers usually have the best rate except on the weekend when they lower the rate by p1 - p1.5. You can usually find money changers in or near malls, but I don't know about your neighbourhood. The banks rates aren't greatly different, but the transaction is slow. If you're here for a short stay and not changing thousands of dollars / euros then the few hundred extra pesos you get by using a Muslim may not be worth the hassle if the journey is far.I'm sure I will change at least 1000 usd for this trip or more depending so 44000 pesos at least.

Seems I will play more poker at Soleil since its new and such so I should take taxi and use Skyway I suppose. 20 p is. 50 cents usd so I can swing it LOL however if some of these DIA dates work well, I play on staying at the condo and fucking more LOL.

Then letting the girl take me around places and go site seeing or to the beach for a day what have you and whatever strikes our fancy. If I take a non pro gal, I suspect I will of course feed her well and buy her some small gifts. What is the usual for this type of situation on Philo as I'm sure its not too different than any other 3rd world country and give her some cash at the end of it all.

PC out.

Pantot
11-07-14, 04:32
Is taxi or Metro better to go there as I am flexible time wise as no rush to anywhere really haha. Just a short vacation and hooking up.

also are there pre paid SIM cards for my phone at airport or do I need to go to mobile store to buy. Best place to change USD to pesos?

PC out.PCP if this is your maiden trip so want simplification and ease of use. Forget about Jeeps, the MRT and shuttles. Hutsori obviously lives there, how he travels efficiently as a resident and you will travel as a first time stranger in a strange land short term tourist is night and day. Unfortunately you are at the mercy of the legendarily corrupt Manila taxi corps.

1) First make sure you exchange at least $20 usd / Euro at the airport ask for all in 100,50 and 20 peso notes.

2) Take the metered yellow taxis at the airport and insist they turn on the meter before you tell them your destination.

3) Before getting into any manila taxi tell him your destination and ask him if he knows where is if he hesitates slam the door and try the next one. They are notorious for driving in circles and asking for directions.

4) Once you determine he knows where the hell you are going ask- Do you have a meter? Make sure he turns it on before you get ten meters otherwise demand he stop and get out.

5) You will need those small bills because none of these guys, after even a 10 hour shift ever has change, supposedly.

6) Hopefully you will encounter the 15 -20% of Manila cabbies who just take you where you want to go without all the games.

If the fellow is amongst the aforementioned simple honest taxi drivers who follow rules please tip him modestly and he will appreciate it greatly. If he pulls any of the crap in 1-5 just get your gear and move on. Never encourage that behavior.

Once you get a girl let her be in charge of all transportation communications while observing rules 1 - 5 are being followed quietly.

Forget the public transportation it can be quick for a savvy local but an impenetrable cluster fuck for an unguided first timer. If the girl says take the jeep etc. With her hell yes follow her. The girls are used to traveling like Hutsori does their whole lives.

Amavida
11-07-14, 04:49
Hello All,

Any comments on if I should stay at this place? Main purpose is not really hanging out over at P Burgos every night but takeout and some DIA pre set up dates. Also perhaps play some poker at Solaire. Would this location be inconvenient as on map it seems far from these places. Any helpful comments appreciated here or PM.

I'm getting a great rate of $30 day and thought about Makati area too but need to make a decision soon LOL.

SM Light Residences, Madison, Mandaluyong, Metro Manila, Philippines.

PC out.That's an extremely busy area (traffic, noise, pollution). It may look close to P. Burgos on the map but you are 'going to find commuting back and forth costly & time consuming in my experience. Hotels in Manila are overpriced. Might as well stay in a nice one close to your mongering and avoid the stress.

AV.

Hutsori
11-07-14, 05:12
I'm sure I will change at least 1000 usd for this trip or more depending so 44000 pesos at least.

Seems I will play more poker at Soleil since its new and such so I should take taxi and use Skyway I suppose. 20 p is. 50 cents usd so I can swing it LOL however if some of these DIA dates work well, I play on staying at the condo and fucking more LOL.

Then letting the girl take me around places and go site seeing or to the beach for a day what have you and whatever strikes our fancy. If I take a non pro gal, I suspect I will of course feed her well and buy her some small gifts. What is the usual for this type of situation on Philo as I'm sure its not too different than any other 3rd world country and give her some cash at the end of it all.

PC out.For your $1000 I reckon you can be +/- p500 to p1500 depending on where and when you change money.

If you stay at that condo you won't be using the Skyway to go to Solaire. For nearby sightseeing you have Tagaytay and for beaches it's Subic, Zambales or Batangas.

Pcpc1688
11-07-14, 07:14
That's an extremely busy area (traffic, noise, pollution). It may look close to P. Burgos on the map but you are 'going to find commuting back and forth costly & time consuming in my experience. Hotels in Manila are overpriced. Might as well stay in a nice one close to your mongering and avoid the stress.

AV.AV,

I don't plan on being at P Burgos except maybe 2 times as the most.

The condo on 50th flr so noise hopefully less that high LOL.

Anyway I will travel by cab in the early morning or late at night not travel. I hate traffic as well.

Any other suggestions will be great

PC out.

LifeIsABeach
11-07-14, 07:47
Any comments on if I should stay at this place? I'm getting a great rate of $30 day and thought about Makati area too but need to make a decision soon LOL.

SM Light Residences, Madison, Mandaluyong, Metro Manila, Philippines. Have you checked the size of the bed? I had to stay in Manila for a night on my outbound trip and I booked at one of these cheaper budget places. Pictures looked good and the room was big. When I got there, The room was still big but had the smallest bed I have seen. It was what little kids sleep on. I was too tired to argue and spent the night falling off the bed and getting back on, repeated through out the night. It just not ruined my night but also the day as I was tired and had to forget about any day time action plans.

WestCoast1
11-07-14, 13:59
Have you checked the size of the bed? I had to stay in Manila for a night on my outbound trip and I booked at one of these cheaper budget places. Pictures looked good and the room was big. When I got there, The room was still big but had the smallest bed I have seen. It was what little kids sleep on. I was too tired to argue and spent the night falling off the bed and getting back on, repeated through out the night. It just not ruined my night but also the day as I was tired and had to forget about any day time action plans.Concur. I make a habit of confirming, via email, my room appointment requirements (regardless of what the website says). The bed size you speak of is 'twin', or 'single', and its a no-no on my list. Many pilipine hotels offer a 'full', 'double' or even what they call a 'queen' bed, which is not such at all: its two twin beds pushed together, with a queen bedsheet pulled over top (or worse, sometimes the twin bedsheets are on top of the mattress, and the beds are simply pushed together). Those beds often push apart in the night, and myself or my tart start to fall to the floor. Talk about culture clash and vocabulary confusion: explaining the next day to the front desk will simply draw the vacant stare from hotel personnel; as they will not understand that your two twin beds are not a 'queen' bed. "Very big that bed sir". Please move me to a room that does not have small beds pushed together. "We don't have that sir. Queen or twin. You choose".

Cool Traveler
11-07-14, 19:02
Contact the hotel before you book. Especially if it is a 5 star. I have never had anyone say NO to me.


Flights from Canada on PAL arrive at about 05:00. On my first trip to Manila my travel agent in Canada contacted the Dusit and arranged an early check in for me at no extra charge. When I arrived at the hotel the staff were perfect and welcoming saying "we have been expecting you Mr. Nut" and up to the room I went. My suggestion is if you are using a travel agent it may be worth having your travel agent send an e-mail requesting an early check in on your behalf.

Pcpc1688
11-08-14, 06:22
Concur. I make a habit of confirming, via email, my room appointment requirements (regardless of what the website says). The bed size you speak of is 'twin', or 'single', and its a no-no on my list.

Hopefully bed big enough for 2 Pinays and me lol

Many pilipine hotels offer a 'full', 'double' or even what they call a 'queen' bed, which is not such at all: its two twin beds pushed together, with a queen bedsheet pulled over top (or worse, sometimes the twin bedsheets are on top of the mattress, and the beds are simply pushed together). Those beds often push apart in the night, and myself or my tart start to fall to the floor. Talk about culture clash and vocabulary confusion: explaining the next day to the front desk will simply draw the vacant stare from hotel personnel; as they will not understand that your two twin beds are not a 'queen' bed. "Very big that bed sir". Please move me to a room that does not have small beds pushed together. "We don't have that sir. Queen or twin. You choose".Its looks like one bed for 2. Might have to go to the floor if not.

PC out.

Pcpc1688
11-09-14, 16:01
PCP if this is your maiden trip so want simplification and ease of use. Forget about Jeeps, the MRT and shuttles. Hutsori obviously lives there, how he travels efficiently as a resident and you will travel as a first time stranger in a strange land short term tourist is night and day. Unfortunately you are at the mercy of the legendarily corrupt Manila taxi corps.

1) First make sure you exchange at least $20 usd / Euro at the airport ask for all in 100,50 and 20 peso notes.

2) Take the metered yellow taxis at the airport and insist they turn on the meter before you tell them your destination.

3) Before getting into any manila taxi tell him your destination and ask him if he knows where is if he hesitates slam the door and try the next one. They are notorious for driving in circles and asking for directions.

4) Once you determine he knows where the hell you are going ask- Do you have a meter? Make sure he turns it on before you get ten meters otherwise demand he stop and get out.

5) You will need those small bills because none of these guys, after even a 10 hour shift ever has change, supposedly.

6) Hopefully you will encounter the 15 -20% of Manila cabbies who just take you where you want to go without all the games.

If the fellow is amongst the aforementioned simple honest taxi drivers who follow rules please tip him modestly and he will appreciate it greatly. If he pulls any of the crap in 1-5 just get your gear and move on. Never encourage that behavior.

Once you get a girl let her be in charge of all transportation communications while observing rules 1 - 5 are being followed quietly.

Forget the public transportation it can be quick for a savvy local but an impenetrable cluster fuck for an unguided first timer. If the girl says take the jeep etc. With her hell yes follow her. The girls are used to traveling like Hutsori does their whole lives.Good info sir.

I am trying to get a DIA gal to meet me at the airport and pick me up. We can go to Condo from there and maybe no issues with cab etc. I will actually be changing some pesos here in Hong Kong for the trip. Seems like good rates here.

PC out.

Pcpc1688
11-09-14, 16:04
For your $1000 I reckon you can be +/- p500 to p1500 depending on where and when you change money.

If you stay at that condo you won't be using the Skyway to go to Solaire. For nearby sightseeing you have Tagaytay and for beaches it's Subic, Zambales or Batangas.Someone said they had a private driver for about 400 p a day and he could go anywhere etc. Anyone know this guy?

PC out.

GoodEnough
11-09-14, 16:13
Though I've been an avid user of mass transit in other countries in which I've lived, I never use it (aside from taxis) here. The jeeps are uncomfortable, hot, slow and, in my view not all that safe. The MRT is too crowded, inefficient and unreliable, and it often goes nowhere near where I want to be. As I've written before, I've become an increasingly frequent customer of Uber, as it's the safest, most comfortable and reliable transport option I've found here. The Uber X cars are no more expensive than taxis and never try to rip you off.

GE.

Pcpc1688
11-09-14, 17:37
Though I've been an avid user of mass transit in other countries in which I've lived, I never use it (aside from taxis) here. The jeeps are uncomfortable, hot, slow and, in my view not all that safe. The MRT is too crowded, inefficient and unreliable, and it often goes nowhere near where I want to be. As I've written before, I've become an increasingly frequent customer of Uber, as it's the safest, most comfortable and reliable transport option I've found here. The Uber X cars are no more expensive than taxis and never try to rip you off.

GE.I saw this and is it a rental car per say or a chauffeured car?

PC out.

Hutsori
11-09-14, 17:54
I saw this and is it a rental car per say or a chauffeured car?

PC out.Private taxi, i.e. one that is not licenced by the gov't. Google it. It's a big deal in many cities around the world. You can download the app to your mobile.

Mbsl65
11-09-14, 18:00
In my experience, private taxis are the best way to get into a trouble especially in Italy, Eastern European countries. Just simply stay clear out of it.


Private taxi, i.e. one that is not licenced by the gov't. Google it. It's a big deal in many cities around the world. You can download the app to your mobile.

Hutsori
11-09-14, 18:05
In my experience, private taxis are the best way to get into a trouble especially in Italy, Eastern European countries. Just simply stay clear out of it.You'll certainly want to avoid uber then. To avoid the trouble. Believing is seeing.

Pcpc1688
11-09-14, 18:13
In my experience, private taxis are the best way to get into a trouble especially in Italy, Eastern European countries. Just simply stay clear out of it.If GE says its ok I would think its ok. Plus its a fairly large company with Intl exposure so I'm kinda thinking its all good. I'm going to try it from airport to condo.

Pc out.

Pcpc1688
11-09-14, 20:15
What should I be paying them or should these be freebies? In the 20 yrs of mongering, we all know that there is no free lunch or pussy in the whole world.

Some I try for LT, some I will just pull a Skogis. LOL.

PC out.

GoodEnough
11-09-14, 22:19
If GE says its ok I would think its ok. Plus its a fairly large company with Intl exposure so I'm kinda thinking its all good. I'm going to try it from airport to condo.

Pc out.Just a word of caution PC, I've not had much luck with Uber from the airport, as the cars seem to congregate more in the business districts such as Makati and Ortigas, where I never have problems getting one. My standard transport mode from the airport is one of the white coupon taxis, which operate on a fixed rate, non-metered system. The amount depends on the distance traveled by zone. I travel from the airport to the Fairmont which, according to the taxi service is Makati 1. The fare is Php330, which is about 100 pesos more than a yellow metered taxi would be. The difference is that I don't have to wait for a taxi, don't have to worry about a driver giving me a story about his meter, or deciding to take a creative route. I always have the drivers take the skyway, which adds another Php20 to the cost.

GE.

Questor55
11-10-14, 01:32
What should I be paying them or should these be freebies? In the 20 yrs of mongering, we all know that there is no free lunch or pussy in the whole world.

Some I try for LT, some I will just pull a Skogis. LOL.

PC out.Boy,

Have you just reopened Pandora's Box! This is a major bone of contention between those who champion importing their own cultural and economic values and those who believe we should accept the realities of this specific environment. The former drive up prices and raise expectations. The latter attempt to keep things reasonable.

Amavida
11-10-14, 03:15
Just a word of caution PC, I've not had much luck with Uber from the airport, as the cars seem to congregate more in the business districts such as Makati and Ortigas, where I never have problems getting one. My standard transport mode from the airport is one of the white coupon taxis, which operate on a fixed rate, non-metered system. The amount depends on the distance traveled by zone. I travel from the airport to the Fairmont which, according to the taxi service is Makati 1. The fare is Php330, which is about 100 pesos more than a yellow metered taxi would be. The difference is that I don't have to wait for a taxi, don't have to worry about a driver giving me a story about his meter, or deciding to take a creative route. I always have the drivers take the skyway, which adds another Php20 to the cost.

GE.GE I'm not sure about Manila but in most cities Uber drivers are specifically told they may not pick up at airports but may drop off without problem. Certainly I've never managed to get one from NAIA. Others may have different experience.

AV.

Amavida
11-10-14, 03:23
What should I be paying them or should these be freebies? In the 20 yrs of mongering, we all know that there is no free lunch or pussy in the whole world.

Some I try for LT, some I will just pull a Skogis. LOL.

PC out.Correct, its never truly free but its very possible to have an instant GF who will practically move in & bang on demand in exchange for meals / gifts / chance of marriage. Alternatively you can pump & dump in which case P1 k. P2 k is fair & reasonable fir a non pro on a per visit basis. The cheap charoies who try to con the women into providing sex for absolutely nothing at all times I will let you make up your own mind about. I believe in karma & its good business to have a rep as a generous payer. Up to you.

AV.

Member #4387
11-10-14, 06:25
Arriving this Friday by KLM from Amsterdam I thought I was home free. All the time KLM have changed their arrivals into the Naia T3. Well, around 7:50 pm (a bit delayed arrival) I was first in line out from the aircraft. As usual none of the conveyr belts in T3 was working. I don't know why they have the walkways as I so far haven't seen they worked one single time. Well one belt was working, hehe. Anyway, my bag popps out as the second one. Priority taggs works sometimes.

I try to be a economical figure and I bring my bag and myself up to the departure level to take a metered taxi. Fuck what a long line of people. I turn I go back. Of course in Naia it is no escaletor going down so I do the stairwalk.

I give in and a lady is calling me: "you want taxi". I say yes and I go Makati. She tells me it is 1750 piso bcs it is nighttime. I don't want to start the discussion as it is realy busy. I just want to go to my hotel and start the sessions.

The taxidriver is a nice guy and he, from the skyway, takes the 3 exit to Makati. We make a swift stop in line of Holiday Inn hotel. I grab my bags and walk to the Ascott (much faster).

Pcpc1688
11-10-14, 07:58
Correct, its never truly free but its very possible to have an instant GF who will practically move in & bang on demand in exchange for meals / gifts / chance of marriage. Alternatively you can pump & dump in which case P1 k. P2 k is fair & reasonable fir a non pro on a per visit basis. The cheap charoies who try to con the women into providing sex for absolutely nothing at all times I will let you make up your own mind about. I believe in karma & its good business to have a rep as a generous payer. Up to you.

AV.I totally agree that if she is willing I'm paying for her to leave not stay haha.

Anyway, I'm sure the couple of DIA girls will get food fun and frolic LOL and depending on hotness in and out of bed, any little sisters she can pull in, and level of sex she will get more sure.

I changed some Pesos here in HK and it was good 5000 p for 875 HKD, how did I do guys?

PC out.

Roll Aides
11-10-14, 10:50
Correct, its never truly free but its very possible to have an instant GF who will practically move in & bang on demand in exchange for meals / gifts / chance of marriage. Alternatively you can pump & dump in which case P1 k. P2 k is fair & reasonable fir a non pro on a per visit basis. The cheap charlies who try to con the women into providing sex for absolutely nothing at all times I will let you make up your own mind about. I believe in karma & its good business to have a rep as a generous payer. Up to you.

AV.Although, I would add that the moving in is convenient in the sense she will also do your laundry (by hand,) keep house and cook, without ever being asked and even in fact if you don't want her to, but there come a lot of expectations with it as in you will soon be putting a ring on her finger. Be careful what you kind of get sideways-wrangled into with instant girlfriends. I would far prefer to put cash up front than try to extract myself from that shit. But yes.

AV's prices sound correct for Manila, I avoid that place so I wouldn't know. In the provinces it's half that, I. E. 500 to 1 k for a non pro on a per-visit basis. I'm pretty firm about 500, that's what the locals pay and I don't pay double for groceries or rent so I don't see why I should do it for pussy.

Pcpc1688
11-10-14, 11:45
Although, I would add that the moving in is convenient in the sense she will also do your laundry (by hand,) keep house and cook, without ever being asked and even in fact if you don't want her to, but there come a lot of expectations with it as in you will soon be putting a ring on her finger. Be careful what you kind of get sideways-wrangled into with instant girlfriends. I would far prefer to put cash up front than try to extract myself from that shit. But yes.

AV's prices sound correct for Manila, I avoid that place so I wouldn't know. In the provinces it's half that, I. E. 500 to 1 k for a non pro on a per-visit basis. I'm pretty firm about 500, that's what the locals pay and I don't pay double for groceries or rent so I don't see why I should do it for pussy.I certainly won't ruin the market for anyone here no worries there. LOL.

I like good pussy and affordable as the next guy and HK and Macau so expensive that its 60% off in Manila or more even in the country. Gosh 500 p is like $12. I'm all in.

PC out.

GoodEnough
11-10-14, 16:24
GE I'm not sure about Manila but in most cities Uber drivers are specifically told they may not pick up at airports but may drop off without problem. Certainly I've never managed to get one from NAIA. Others may have different experience.

AV.I have gotten Uber twice at the airport. The drivers didn't seem at all concerned about picking me up, but on most ocassions there just aren't any cars in the vicinity. Of course it's never an issue finding someone in Makati to take you to the airport.

Skogis, I agree with everything you said about T3. It's a slum, and remember it's the newest terminal. The whole airport is pretty much of a disaster zone. I noticed that about two weeks ago, as I was leaving Manila, that the roof was leaking.

GE.

Radical Guy
11-10-14, 17:06
Though I've been an avid user of mass transit in other countries in which I've lived, I never use it (aside from taxis) here. The jeeps are uncomfortable, hot, slow and, in my view not all that safe. The MRT is too crowded, inefficient and unreliable, and it often goes nowhere near where I want to be. As I've written before, I've become an increasingly frequent customer of Uber, as it's the safest, most comfortable and reliable transport option I've found here. The Uber X cars are no more expensive than taxis and never try to rip you off.

GE.I've tried using Uber a couple of times in Manila, from the airport, but it seems that Uber drivers are always like 25-30 minutes away. Maybe I'm just arriving at bad times? I'm sure Uber will catch on, and many more drivers will be available over time, but I haven't had much luck so far.

RG.

Sammon
11-10-14, 17:47
What should I be paying them or should these be freebies? In the 20 yrs of mongering, we all know that there is no free lunch or pussy in the whole world.

Some I try for LT, some I will just pull a Skogis. LOL.

PC out.First of all do not think about what you should pay. Meet them, have fun with them and see. Grade the service on a scale and pay accordingly. Some are really sweet and I would hate to short change them. Some are mechanical and I would pay 1000 pesos. Some are mercenary and demand money. For these girls it is better to negotiate and agree on a amount before you touch them. If agreed pay the agreed amount and if not come to an agreement just give her taxi money and let her go.

Some members may disagree with me saying never negotiate the fee. But you will save yourself lot of headache if not agreed before the act with some girls. I remember with one girl whose pussy had a smell and I told her I am not in the mood and tried to get rid of her. She did demand 1500 pesos. Ultimately agreed to pay her 1000 pesos. I do not want any drama calling the security etc. You win some and you loose some.

In general most of the DIA girls I have been with are nice and some are absolute GFE and in rare cases few did not want to accept money. However I have put money in their purse in spite of their protest saying it is for her to buy something as a gift from me.

My advice is be generous and treat them nice.

Wicked Roger
11-10-14, 18:24
As usual none of the conveyr belts in T3 was working. I don't know why they have the walkways as I so far haven't seen they worked one single time. Well one belt was working, hehe. Anyway, my bag pops out as the second one. Priority taggs works sometimes.

I try to be a economical figure and I bring my bag and myself up to the departure level to take a metered taxi. Fuck what a long line of people. I turn I go back. Of course in Naia it is no escaletor going down so I do the stairwalk.

I give in and a lady is calling me: "you want taxi". I say yes and I go Makati. She tells me it is 1750 piso because it is nighttime. I don't want to start the discussion as it is realy busy. I just want to go to my hotel and start the sessions.

The taxi driver is a nice guy and he, from the skyway, takes the 3 exit to Makati. We make a swift stop in line of Holiday Inn hotel. I grab my bags and walk to the Ascott (much faster).T3 is far far better than T1, I use it a lot and fly both domestically and internationally monthly.

Last week none of the walkway's were working and the Emirates check girl was moaning about them and T3 in general but admitted she preferred T3 to T1. Even the cabin crew said the same but sad also they were ashamed of both terminals.

There is an elevator which I use at times but depending on the time can busy and it is slow but useful if you have lots of bags (and time).

Now the taxi scams. Yes the white ones (fixed fare Makati is PHP 440 to Burgos area) also are scammers as some hang in the queue and you think they are fixed fare but are not. I was asked as you were noted the fare as PHP 440 and was immediately asked to go to the front of the queue LOL There I complained and the guy said "say it to the policeman on duty" - so I did and pointed out the people.

Tourism is supposed be targeted as a key revenue source but the persistent scams on tourists will not help the image nor will T1 etc being voted in the world's worst airports continually (unlikely to stop IMHO for many years due to the slowness and incompetence of those in charge) - for comparison, Emirates T3 was constructed in about 24 months and is really very nice, very efficient, clean and the air cons work LOL.

And while T3 is not great it is miles better than T1 and is cooler than T1 but I don't think the air cons are working properly. But in the Philippines we must be thankful for small mercies.

Slippery
11-10-14, 22:34
I have gotten Uber twice at the airport. The drivers didn't seem at all concerned about picking me up, but on most ocassions there just aren't any cars in the vicinity. Of course it's never an issue finding someone in Makati to take you to the airport.

Skogis, I agree with everything you said about T3. It's a slum, and remember it's the newest terminal. The whole airport is pretty much of a disaster zone. I noticed that about two weeks ago, as I was leaving Manila, that the roof was leaking.

GE.I had to walk through T3 with a broken foot a few weeks ago. No passenger assistance available and of course the people movers inside weren't working. When I got outside there had to have been 100 people in line for yellow taxis, with no taxis in line. I did an about face, hobbled over to the white coupon taxis and paid 540 to get to where I was going. Yes, twice the price, but I'd still be in line waiting for a yellow taxi as I write this. Is that the best they can do with their newest and most modern terminal? No passenger assistance and no people movers? The problem is that they won't pay for services or repairs, but then again, they never paid for the terminal either.

FreebieFan
11-11-14, 01:59
No passenger assistance available and of course the people movers inside weren't working. When I got outside there had to have been 100 people in line for yellow taxis, with no taxis in line. ? No passenger assistance and no people movers? The problem is that they won't pay for services or repairs, but then again, they never paid for the terminal either.I can't remember a time when those people movers ever worked. I recall arriving once and due to some strange reason, instead of being allowed to go down the steps to immigration, they made us go left, then right, then right then right again,. Ie made us walk three quarters of the way around the teminal and could then go down the steps to immigration. With no people movers, and the smell of pussy in the air, that was one long walk.

Then again arriving in Heathrow London last week, there was a sign on exiting the plane that said " Nearest toilets, 20 minutes walk ".

Member #4387
11-11-14, 03:49
T3 is far far better than T1, I use it a lot and fly both domestically and internationally monthly.

Last week none of the walkway's were working and the Emirates check girl was moaning about them and T3 in general but admitted she preferred T3 to T1. Even the cabin crew said the same but sad also they were ashamed of both terminals.

There is an elevator which I use at times but depending on the time can busy and it is slow but useful if you have lots of bags (and time).Regarding the elevator you talk about it had some big signs saying "out of order"(ofcourse). But one of these days I hope meeting a T3 where most of the stuff and staff are working. It is actually just humoristic.

Pip Jaeger
11-11-14, 05:24
But one of these days I hope meeting a T3 where most of the stuff and staff are working.By then you'll old, decrepit and in your own "people mover", namely a wheel chair, LOL.

Redcurry
11-11-14, 05:49
Private taxi, i.e. one that is not licenced by the gov't. Google it. It's a big deal in many cities around the world. You can download the app to your mobile.I didn't know they had Uber in Manila, interesting but in any event to cut down on taxi wait times to 0. I just go up the stairs to the departure drive and pick up a city cab dropping people off. No line and they don't have to wait either.

Wicked Roger
11-11-14, 06:01
Regarding the elevator you talk about it had some big signs saying "out of order"(ofcourse). But one of these days I hope meeting a T3 where most of the stuff and staff are working. It is actually just humoristic.That is a new one on me but I have had it that the queue for the lifts stretched back to nearly the start of the escalator.

It is still better than T1 which I why I keep my sanity when I use that terminal and I use it a lot.

For it is a breathe of fresh air compared with T1 so be thankful for small mercies I say.

And yes we will be old and senile before any terminal in Manila runs like BKK, HK, Singapore etc.

FantasyPh
11-11-14, 11:01
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Pcpc1688
11-11-14, 22:16
First of all do not think about what you should pay. Meet them, have fun with them and see. Grade the service on a scale and pay accordingly. Some are really sweet and I would hate to short change them. Some are mechanical and I would pay 1000 pesos. Some are mercenary and demand money. For these girls it is better to negotiate and agree on a amount before you touch them. If agreed pay the agreed amount and if not come to an agreement just give her taxi money and let her go.

Some members may disagree with me saying never negotiate the fee. But you will save yourself lot of headache if not agreed before the act with some girls. I remember with one girl whose pussy had a smell and I told her I am not in the mood and tried to get rid of her. She did demand 1500 pesos. Ultimately agreed to pay her 1000 pesos. I do not want any drama calling the security etc. You win some and you loose some.

In general most of the DIA girls I have been with are nice and some are absolute GFE and in rare cases few did not want to accept money. However I have put money in their purse in spite of their protest saying it is for her to buy something as a gift from me.

My advice is be generous and treat them nice.$22 usd is small bucks to get rid of an irate women in any country LOL.

PC out.

Hutsori
11-12-14, 05:17
I didn't know they had Uber in Manila, interesting but in any event to cut down on taxi wait times to 0. I just go up the stairs to the departure drive and pick up a city cab dropping people off. No line and they don't have to wait either.'No line... "

This is not always true, and they seem to pop up at the worst times. I was in T3 to catch an AirAsia flight. Surprise! It's at T4. (The same flight two months earlier was at T3. No signs by AirAsia telling passengers to go to T4; a helpful passenger info agent called AirAsia and found out where the flight was boarding.) Went outside to the departure's taxi queue and there had to be 40 people waiting - it was an early afternoon flight. I was in a rush so I walked away from the queue to where taxi passengers were exiting the cabs, made eye contact with a driver who motioned for me to get in, and away we went. I dislike jumping the queue but in this case I was left no alternative.

Tomasb
11-16-14, 02:28
Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. Since I plan to visit the Philippines in the near future, I decided to join for a month. So far my experience on this site has been dismal. Virtually every attractive girl, with the exception of one, has ultimately admitted to me that she is living in Ghana with the same cock and bull story about someone in family died, etc. Etc. And she had to move. Total nonsense.

The only other women contacting me are old ladies and young fatties. I have been talking to one quite attractive girl who says she is not from Ghana, and lives in a far southern Phil province and city, but is angling for me to buy her a ticket to meet me in Hong Kong before I come to MNL. To say I am suspicious is an understatement. The city she claims to be from is the far southern city starting with the letter 'Z' where all the Muslims live. She seems to know about the problems there for Christians so perhaps she is telling me the truth.

The site even has a disclaimer about woman from Ghana contacting interested suitors but that has not deterred these women, if they even are women.

So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?

Ekspat
11-16-14, 02:36
I was in T3 to catch an AirAsia flight. Surprise! It's at T4. The same flight two months earlier was at T3.Sure about that? AA was at T3? Actually that would be the surprise to me. For an AA flight I'd go to T4 without thinking.

GoodEnough
11-16-14, 02:40
Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. Since I plan to visit the Philippines in the near future, I decided to join for a month. So far my experience on this site has been dismal. Virtually every attractive girl, with the exception of one, has ultimately admitted to me that she is living in Ghana with the same cock and bull story about someone in family died, etc. Etc. And she had to move. Total nonsense.

The only other women contacting me are old ladies and young fatties. I have been talking to one quite attractive girl who says she is not from Ghana, and lives in a far southern Phil province and city, but is angling for me to buy her a ticket to meet me in Hong Kong before I come to MNL. To say I am suspicious is an understatement. The city she claims to be from is the far southern city starting with the letter 'Z' where all the Muslims live. She seems to know about the problems there for Christians so perhaps she is telling me the truth.

The site even has a disclaimer about woman from Ghana contacting interested suitors but that has not deterred these women, if they even are women.

So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?There are low cost flights between Zamboanga (which incidentally has a majority Christian population) and Manila. You could always buy her a ticket, charged to a credit card, for her to join you in Manila. If the ticket is charged to a card, she can't turn it into cash.

GE.

Pantot
11-16-14, 03:02
Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. Since I plan to visit the Philippines in the near future, I decided to join for a month. So far my experience on this site has been dismal. Virtually every attractive girl, with the exception of one, has ultimately admitted to me that she is living in Ghana with the same cock and bull story about someone in family died, etc. Etc. And she had to move. Total nonsense.

The only other women contacting me are old ladies and young fatties. I have been talking to one quite attractive girl who says she is not from Ghana, and lives in a far southern Phil province and city, but is angling for me to buy her a ticket to meet me in Hong Kong before I come to MNL. To say I am suspicious is an understatement. The city she claims to be from is the far southern city starting with the letter 'Z' where all the Muslims live. She seems to know about the problems there for Christians so perhaps she is telling me the truth.

The site even has a disclaimer about woman from Ghana contacting interested suitors but that has not deterred these women, if they even are women.

So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?This is why I waste zero time on 'Dating Sites' and any site in which first contact does not include seeing the girl 'live' in cam.

Too much bullshit to sift through with all the pretenders and gays. A pretty pinay is never afraid to show her face in cam. The cam sites are the best. What you see is what you get.

Tomasb
11-16-14, 03:03
Yes, I thought of that option. Apparently, the flight cost is not very expensive. She mentioned that there are some bad Muslim dudes there but did not know Catholics are in the majority. Overall from her description, it sounds like a very poor place.

She seems very concerned I would meet someone in HKG BEFORE I arrived in Manila.


There are low cost flights between Zamboanga (which incidentally has a majority Christian population) and Manila. You could always buy her a ticket, charged to a credit card, for her to join you in Manila. If the ticket is charged to a card, she can't turn it into cash.

GE.

GoodEnough
11-16-14, 03:38
Yes, I thought of that option. Apparently, the flight cost is not very expensive. She mentioned that there are some bad Muslim dudes there but did not know Catholics are in the majority. Overall from her description, it sounds like a very poor place.

She seems very concerned I would meet someone in HKG BEFORE I arrived in Manila.I just responded to your PM. Don't even think about going to Zamboanga. It can be a dangerous place for foreigners and you would have no way of protecting yourself if you don't know people there. Besides, it's a fairly ugly city with not much to do.

GE.

Pcpc1688
11-16-14, 15:31
T3 is far far better than T1, I use it a lot and fly both domestically and internationally monthly.

Last week none of the walkway's were working and the Emirates check girl was moaning about them and T3 in general but admitted she preferred T3 to T1. Even the cabin crew said the same but sad also they were ashamed of both terminals.

There is an elevator which I use at times but depending on the time can busy and it is slow but useful if you have lots of bags (and time).

Now the taxi scams. Yes the white ones (fixed fare Makati is PHP 440 to Burgos area) also are scammers as some hang in the queue and you think they are fixed fare but are not. I was asked as you were noted the fare as PHP 440 and was immediately asked to go to the front of the queue LOL There I complained and the guy said "say it to the policeman on duty" - so I did and pointed out the people.

Tourism is supposed be targeted as a key revenue source but the persistent scams on tourists will not help the image nor will T1 etc being voted in the world's worst airports continually (unlikely to stop IMHO for many years due to the slowness and incompetence of those in charge) - for comparison, Emirates T3 was constructed in about 24 months and is really very nice, very efficient, clean and the air cons work LOL.

And while T3 is not great it is miles better than T1 and is cooler than T1 but I don't think the air cons are working properly. But in the Philippines we must be thankful for small mercies.I'm flying in on ANA, what terminal that that usually arrive in? Will customs drag on for hours or is it quick. I have a DIA cutie that's been verified of FB that will come pick me up at airport, buy me a SIM card and go have Japanese food after arrival set up already. Should I be wary of anything else that may happen with this young lady? LOL.

PC out.

Pcpc1688
11-16-14, 15:36
This is why I waste zero time on 'Dating Sites' and any site in which first contact does not include seeing the girl 'live' in cam.

Too much bullshit to sift through with all the pretenders and gays. A pretty pinay is never afraid to show her face in cam. The cam sites are the best. What you see is what you get.Which are the cam sites you mentioned? Seems like DIA gals are on the up and up so far. I think referencing them on their FB page also is re assuring too or seems like it. But you never know till you know ehh.

PC out.

Wicked Roger
11-16-14, 17:09
I'm flying in on ANA, what terminal that that usually arrive in? Will customs drag on for hours or is it quick. I have a DIA cutie that's been verified of FB that will come pick me up at airport, buy me a SIM card and go have Japanese food after arrival set up already. Should I be wary of anything else that may happen with this young lady? LOL.

PC out.Ana uses T3. Customs depends on the time you arrive. If early morning less hassle then later afternoon etc. Won't take hours unlike some airports I have been through but be patient is my advice (and arrive say between 5-9 am).

Toronto
11-16-14, 19:30
I'm flying in on ANA, what terminal that that usually arrive in? Will customs drag on for hours or is it quick. I have a DIA cutie that's been verified of FB that will come pick me up at airport, buy me a SIM card and go have Japanese food after arrival set up already. Should I be wary of anything else that may happen with this young lady? LOL.

PC out.I flew ANA in October and it was terminal 3. Immigration and customs was pretty quick but horrendous line for yellow metered taxi.

Member #4387
11-17-14, 06:01
Having had one beauty residing with me at my Makati hotel the last couples of days she finaly decided to leave. She had to go down to Kalibo to catch up with some family biz. I did the twist and escorted her to the airport, kissed her off goodbye infront of T3 departure area and taxied back to Makati. Having had 5 days without any additional pickups beside the girl "living" with me is a hole new situation to me and I have felt weird during this hole period of time. But as she is one of the prettiest girl I have ever met (or seen for that matter) I thought it was worthwhile taking a break from normal datingroutines for a while.

Now I was off the hook and ready for new adventures so I texted in a FB contact residing in the Makati area. We agreed on her ETA set to be 3 pm. She showed up on time and she revieled a lot of beauty while getting "nekkid". I did never see her c2 c but having browsed through some of her many hundreds FB pics. She stood forward as even better than most of those pics. Lucky me. A 25 yo callcentergirl (so she claimed and as usual I did not check further into that one) who origined from Quezon area (that I would found out was true, more of that later).

We did session a couple of times and we connected very well. She was all good fun and this 40 kg spinner had a good engine. I tried to CIM her but she retracted so I performed a COP (cum on pillow) instead. We rested in my apts livingroom and watched some FamilyGuy episodes. I saw to my great disapointment my evening girl was cancelling on me as I didn't respond to her calls / texts the last couple of days (due to Kalibo girl). Well can not realy blame her.

Suddenly callcentergirl texted a bit and ask me to join her to meet her family in Quezon. Instinctively I tried to decline her proposal but my brain did not connect very well so I nodded and said "yes, lets do that". She let me in on her family (size, biz, attitude, living conditions etc etc), I showered and off we went.

The taxi ride was eventless untill the driver suddenly found out he was taking a shortcut from the SM North Edsa mall. It was dark by now and Sunday "trappic" was bad so I did not mind it one bit so far. We were zik zakking in some small streets and suddenly we entered a fairly new road all empty from traffic (almost). She told me we were close now. We took off from this strangly wide and empty road and into the dark we drove. I became a bit sceptic at first but since I picked the driver and he and my girl did hardly communicate I had hard time believing any set up was going to happen. We soon found streetlights again and a bit down this lightned street tollbooths showed up every 200 mts. It was 3 of them amd in each one sat a security guard drinking beer and was claiming some pisos from the driver. Sometimes things are strange and the girl had no idea what was the purpose of this.

We finaly reached her families condo. It was crowded with people. My girl was introducing me to what must have been atleast 20 people. I give them that the condo was big and had 3 floors. She had many sisters and brothers but the rest of the people showed to be the neighbours having heard rumors that a new guy was "in town".

Hospitality, wow, they offered me soft drinks and some fried fish I declined in most polite ways. For the small ones I did bring some chocolate bars which was highly appreciated. The taxidriver was all gone now so I was all by myself. But in my many years of mongering in designated Hi so areas around the globe I thought now was time to do some exploring.

It took maby around 15 minutes for the mother to offer me to spend the night with my new girl. She most correctly did not live there fulltime but they could move some people around so me and her could have all the privacy we wanted. My girl was looking at me as I should accept the offer and so I did. My brain was allready working on plans on how to get away from all this (faking some illness or something like that). Nothing bad about the house or family though but the house was not to my usual standards and not a place I wanted to stay more than I had to (and to those phil protective BM's inside here this is not meant as critisism or talking down on "your" country or this family. It is just a fact. And yes I know standards is not what I am used to). I am sure the house was more than good enough according to this areas standards. Atleast the family was nice as hell.

It showed the family did run a few canteens around the area and to all my luck they decided to invite me to one (here I saw my extraction point). We were taking a bus from their house to one of their Novalieches based canteens. I happened to recognize a church on our way from which I picked up a girl a few years back. So now I atleast got my bearings straight. In the bus everyone was watching me and all sorts of weird questions popped out: "have you been on a bus before", "do you want to see pics of my family (from an unknown person sitting in the seat across the aile from me)", "do you pray" and so on. And again this is not critisism it was only weird and if I dare to say so without beeing disrespectful, it was funny. My girl obviously the one in the family beeing used to the more bustling modern citylife was embarassed and told the people around me to shut up (not on my request just so you know).

At the canteen they provided all sorts of small dishes (their treat). There where ladyboys and lesbians in all variation imaginable working for the family. They brought in a few cases of Red Horse for anyone to drink and so we did. I hate Red Horse but as I know phil people live it I joined in and kept this as my little secret. I sang "sweet child of mine (Guns and'Roses)" and everyone was laughing. Not so many spoke any english but my girl was doing a heck of a job translating as her english was outstanding (to me as a non native englishspeaker that is, I know I have pissed someone off bcs of my maby / maybe but here in this canteen it was bigger trouble going on).

It was probably wrong but at one point I asked to be allowed to pay for all this but I was hammered down as in this was their treat to their daughters new BF. It took a while for my mind to connect again beeing aware of they actually meant me. My girl was looking at me with hope in her eyes. WTF. Due to her rather great fuckingskills I would presume she had met some blokes prior to me but maby she never did bring someone back. I will never get an answer to this question. No it was time to escape.

Now everyone incl myself was drunk and before I managed to escape the mother offered me my girls 20 yo virgin sister. She was pretty and sexy so from a monger perspective not an bad idea. I politely declined. The mother did not give up and offered me an even younger sister. I thought this was weird first time but now she actually did offer me a 13 yo girl. I told them I could be arrested for doing so and my GF was now more than embaressed and asked if I wanted to go. That one came easy and I said it probably was for the best. I believe there is a big gap from my girl to her family. This was the crasiest shit I ever encounter in all my lifes stages. Me and my girl made up a cover story she could tell her parents. My girls father did not seem so happy me beeing there but this was explained to me as him beeing a shy and modest guy. We shook hands thats all.

My GF got me an taxi and back to Ascott I went. I think that will be my first and last experience like this but even so a fun and weird night.

Pcpc1688
11-17-14, 10:02
I flew ANA in October and it was terminal 3. Immigration and customs was pretty quick but horrendous line for yellow metered taxi.Late arrival so maybe out of immigration by 10 pm and hopefully she is outside waiting with bells on LOL.

PC out.

Ekspat
11-17-14, 12:36
Man, Bro Skogis, what a ride! Indeed crazy! A few years ago I had a similar thing with an Indonesian girl in Padang.

Me back in town next week, free for some beers?

Greetings from Tokyo! (PM better, phone doesn't work here).

Radical Guy
11-17-14, 12:41
Now everyone incl myself was drunk and before I managed to escape the mother offered me my girls 20 yo virgin sister. She was pretty and sexy so from a monger perspective not an bad idea. I politely declined. The mother did not give up and offered me an even younger sister. I thought this was weird first time but now she actually did offer me a 13 yo girl. I told them I could be arrested for doing so and my GF was now more than embaressed and asked if I wanted to go. That one came easy and I said it probably was for the best. I believe there is a big gap from my girl to her family. This was the crasiest shit I ever encounter in all my lifes stages. Me and my girl made up a cover story she could tell her parents..Wow, what's with these people? Maybe they were trying to set you up for blackmail? I can't imagine anything lower than a mother offering up her own tender-age daughter!

RG.

Member #4387
11-17-14, 13:13
Man, Bro Skogis, what a ride! Indeed crazy! A few years ago I had a similar thing with an Indonesian girl in Padang.

Me back in town next week, free for some beers?

Greetings from Tokyo! (PM better, phone doesn't work here).No more field trips for me. It was all good fun but very weird. I go back tonight and think i have to stay home a few weeks with x mas coming up soon and a little daughter to nurse. My GF thinks I spend to little time back home, hehe.

Lenience
11-17-14, 14:22
I stayed in Ermita for 3 weeks whilst on a job. Gawd it is ever worse than ever, but at least G-Point is the same as always, even lots of the same hostesses as 5 years ago. I hate wasting time on alternatives like the hookup sites, and also can't deal with LAC crowds, so G-Point is just my speed and they also draw some decent pints and the bar food isn't bad at all. I like to be able to have a sort-of conversation before the proposition. Maybe it's possible at LAC but at an elevated decibel level. Anyways, I nailed 4 or 5 different cougar-types from there. All good GFEs and stress-free. One called Kate was the absolute hottest shag I've ever had and nice to sleep with. Maria of the giant rack was too persistent at first and then when I finally couldn't restrain my curiousity (real or not?) she had forgotten her ID so we had to use a Sogo. But they are definitely real and I got an amazing tit-job before the main event. There was Gina, a tad care-worn but good company and hot as hell. She was the only one who balked a bit at 1000 for ST. Gigi is tall and nice-looking, always comes in early and sits by the door with Kate, nice but not really so enthusiatic in bed. Also found a nice little lady out of Robinsons. She cleaned my apartment and gave a good massage before ridding me of surplus semen. But this is the last time I stay in Ermita. Too much filth in the streets and the noise! Next time it will be Makati.

WestCoast1
11-19-14, 01:43
She seems very concerned I would meet someone in HKG BEFORE I arrived in Manila.Tomas, clean out your inbox.

Ceegee
11-19-14, 01:54
Yes, I thought of that option. Apparently, the flight cost is not very expensive. She mentioned that there are some bad Muslim dudes there but did not know Catholics are in the majority. Overall from her description, it sounds like a very poor place.

She seems very concerned I would meet someone in HKG BEFORE I arrived in Manila.Sounds like you have some experienced people PMing you so I am sure you will sort it out. Don't fly anybody in, Manila in loaded with women who will gladly take a few pesos from you. I have never used that particular dating site, but I use other ones almost exclusively now to have women come meet me at my hotel. Weed out the one photo wonders, the brand new profiles, and get the girls on cam ASAP. Bring up the subject of sex and money quickly. Don't be shy to tell them exactly what you want them to do in bed. Many will drop off, but those are the ones you want to get rid of anyway. Also, just do whatever Westy is telling you via PM, his man goo has been spread far and wide in the city.

Tomasb
11-19-14, 06:17
Inbox open now.


Tomas, clean out your inbox.

Tomasb
11-19-14, 06:19
He has been very helpful. Not going to fly anyone into MNL. Appears there are plenty of opps available.


Sounds like you have some experienced people PMing you so I am sure you will sort it out. Don't fly anybody in, Manila in loaded with women who will gladly take a few pesos from you. I have never used that particular dating site, but I use other ones almost exclusively now to have women come meet me at my hotel. Weed out the one photo wonders, the brand new profiles, and get the girls on cam ASAP. Bring up the subject of sex and money quickly. Don't be shy to tell them exactly what you want them to do in bed. Many will drop off, but those are the ones you want to get rid of anyway. Also, just do whatever Westy is telling you via PM, his man goo has been spread far and wide in the city.

Cool Traveler
11-19-14, 18:40
Tomas:

Most girls or women on FC are pretty well aware of what is going on. The key is to have patience. The thing is, there are a lot of guys out there. You have to cultivate your resource. The ones that are too pretty (photos looking like from a Vogue magazine) are more than likely to be scammers. Here are some pointers:

1. FC is not free. You have to pay to communicate with someone. A lot of women here are a little bit older and you tend to find them a little wiser.

2. If it is too good to be true, then that is a big red flag.

3. If the gal is very pretty, then a lot of guys are going to hit on her. Think about that blue eyed, blonde, Scandinavian hitting on her. Try, but don't waste your time on them. She will just string you along.

4. If you are not traveling to a place where you can meet her, then don't send tickets for them to come see you in Manila. Never going to happen. Plus logistics to this type of operation is always complicated.

5. Girls meeting you in Hong Kong is completely out of the question, unless that person has traveled extensively. The Phillipines immigration will not let them (the girls) board a plane.

6. Girl will not be allowed to board planes unless they have lots of money, and / or someone is sponsoring them with documentation.

7. If you are ugly (like me), then girls come to you because, you are a safe option.

8. They will ask you if have been to Phillipines. Tell them NO.

9. Ghana. Why Ghana? Some must think Ghana is where the nice girls come from. Are we that stupid? Anyway, Instant Block.

10. If the first message contains more than 4 lines. Contains email addresses etc. This is a scammer. Instant Block!

11. If someone is dead in the family. This will lead to asking for money. Block.

12. If, when you ask, "How are you?" And she answers, "not good", or something in that nature, Block!

13. Most women in Manila are pretty wised up now, to all the things that go on in FC. If you find a girl outside of Manila, you could get lucky with "pretty and nice". But you should be willing to travel.

14. Patience is the key. I have found good ones. But you got to have a conversation, become friends, before you get to the next step.

15. The letter Z, stand for Zamboanga. It is in Mindanao. Not all are Muslims. And you can find some pretty girls there. But be willing to go there to the South. If you stand out in the crowd to be mugged, then not an option for you.

Hope this helps.

CT


Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. Since I plan to visit the Philippines in the near future, I decided to join for a month. So far my experience on this site has been dismal. Virtually every attractive girl, with the exception of one, has ultimately admitted to me that she is living in Ghana with the same cock and bull story about someone in family died, etc. Etc. And she had to move. Total nonsense.

The only other women contacting me are old ladies and young fatties. I have been talking to one quite attractive girl who says she is not from Ghana, and lives in a far southern Phil province and city, but is angling for me to buy her a ticket to meet me in Hong Kong before I come to MNL. To say I am suspicious is an understatement. The city she claims to be from is the far southern city starting with the letter 'Z' where all the Muslims live. She seems to know about the problems there for Christians so perhaps she is telling me the truth.

The site even has a disclaimer about woman from Ghana contacting interested suitors but that has not deterred these women, if they even are women.

So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?

Slippery
11-19-14, 21:56
I stayed in Ermita for 3 weeks whilst on a job. Gawd it is ever worse than ever, but at least G-Point is the same as always, even lots of the same hostesses as 5 years ago. I hate wasting time on alternatives like the hookup sites, and also can't deal with LAC crowds, so G-Point is just my speed and they also draw some decent pints and the bar food isn't bad at all. I like to be able to have a sort-of conversation before the proposition. Maybe it's possible at LAC but at an elevated decibel level. Anyways, I nailed 4 or 5 different cougar-types from there. All good GFEs and stress-free. One called Kate was the absolute hottest shag I've ever had and nice to sleep with. Maria of the giant rack was too persistent at first and then when I finally couldn't restrain my curiousity (real or not?) she had forgotten her ID so we had to use a Sogo. But they are definitely real and I got an amazing tit-job before the main event. There was Gina, a tad care-worn but good company and hot as hell. She was the only one who balked a bit at 1000 for ST. Gigi is tall and nice-looking, always comes in early and sits by the door with Kate, nice but not really so enthusiatic in bed. Also found a nice little lady out of Robinsons. She cleaned my apartment and gave a good massage before ridding me of surplus semen. But this is the last time I stay in Ermita. Too much filth in the streets and the noise! Next time it will be Makati.Same girls, different day. Maybe I'll stop by sometime over the weekend.

Pip Jaeger
11-20-14, 00:17
Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. SNIP
So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?After having issues with DIA last year I started using FC and have had tremendous success. I use the filters to weed out a lot of the scammers who are not in the Phils. The scammers who are there tend to be from MNL and Mindanao (Zamboanga) and usually you can tell from their messages right away what their game is (they often give and / or ask for your email or personal contact info in their first message, which tends to be one long para). And despite mentioning that I'm only interested in meeting girls from a specific geographic region I still get interests and messages from girls well outside that area; plus the usual fatties and grannies. All, I repeat all, of them I simply delete and many of the obvious scammers I also block.

Ceegee
11-20-14, 02:02
8. They will ask you if have been to Phillipines. Tell them NO.
I'm curious as to your reasoning behind answering no?

As a fellow fisherman in the dating sites, I would always say yes, even if I had never been to the country / city in question, to try to establish that I know the local game / market rates, even if I don't.

Tomasb
11-20-14, 04:04
Interesting comment in that many of the hot girls in this site appear to be from Zamboanga, which is about as far as you can go and still be in the Philippines.

Glad to hear you are having some success. For me, it seems like a joke site. Amazing how many of the hot girls end up saying they are of mixed parentage from Ghana. Who knew? LOL.


After having issues with DIA last year I started using FC and have had tremendous success. I use the filters to weed out a lot of the scammers who are not in the Phils. The scammers who are there tend to be from MNL and Mindanao (Zamboanga) and usually you can tell from their messages right away what their game is (they often give and / or ask for your email or personal contact info in their first message, which tends to be one long para). And despite mentioning that I'm only interested in meeting girls from a specific geographic region I still get interests and messages from girls well outside that area; plus the usual fatties and grannies. All, I repeat all, of them I simply delete and many of the obvious scammers I also block.

Econo Tech
11-20-14, 04:05
Tomas:

Most girls or women on FC are pretty well aware of what is going on. The key is to have patience. The thing is, there are a lot of guys out there. You have to cultivate your resource. The ones that are too pretty (photos looking like from a Vogue magazine) are more than likely to be scammers. Here are some pointers:
Use tineye to check if those pictures are hers, as tineye can match 90% of fakes!!


1. FC is not free. You have to pay to communicate with someone. A lot of women here are a little bit older and you tend to find them a little wiser.I thought it is free for women, correct me if I am wrong! If paid for women too, I doubt so many will even visit the site.


2. If it is too good to be true, then that is a big red flag.No truer words.


3. If the gal is very pretty, then a lot of guys are going to hit on her. Think about that blue eyed, blonde, Scandinavian hitting on her. Try, but don't waste your time on them. She will just string you along.If she hits on you, again, either she isn't true or she is a man!! Up your warning meter.


5. Girls meeting you in Hong Kong is completely out of the question, unless that person has traveled extensively. The Phillipines immigration will not let them (the girls) board a plane.You will be surprised how many girls find it easier to go to HK than to SG.


7. If you are ugly (like me), then girls come to you because, you are a safe option.LOL, same for me too. Though I don't regret the cuties that don't respond. I found cuter they are, the more they think their-shit-don't-stink!


10. If the first message contains more than 4 lines. Contains email addresses etc. This is a scammer. Instant Block!LOL.


11. If someone is dead in the family. This will lead to asking for money. Block.LOL again!

Others, pretty much agreed!

Nice write up.

Must be a sticky!

Member #4387
11-20-14, 04:32
Tomas:

Most girls or women on FC are pretty well aware of what is going on. The key is to have patience. The thing is, there are a lot of guys out there. You have to cultivate your resource. The ones that are too pretty (photos looking like from a Vogue magazine) are more than likely to be scammers. Here are some pointers:

1. FC is not free. You have to pay to communicate with someone. A lot of women here are a little bit older and you tend to find them a little wiser.

2. If it is too good to be true, then that is a big red flag.

3. If the gal is very pretty, then a lot of guys are going to hit on her. Think about that blue eyed, blonde, Scandinavian hitting on her. Try, but don't waste your time on them. She will just string you along.

4. If you are not traveling to a place where you can meet her, then don't send tickets for them to come see you in Manila. Never going to happen. Plus logistics to this type of operation is always complicated.

5. Girls meeting you in Hong Kong is completely out of the question, unless that person has traveled extensively. The Phillipines immigration will not let them (the girls) board a plane.

6. Girl will not be allowed to board planes unless they have lots of money, and / or someone is sponsoring them with documentation.

7. If you are ugly (like me), then girls come to you because, you are a safe option.

8. They will ask you if have been to Phillipines. Tell them NO.

9. Ghana. Why Ghana? Some must think Ghana is where the nice girls come from. Are we that stupid? Anyway, Instant Block.

10. If the first message contains more than 4 lines. Contains email addresses etc. This is a scammer. Instant Block!

11. If someone is dead in the family. This will lead to asking for money. Block.

12. If, when you ask, "How are you?" And she answers, "not good", or something in that nature, Block!

13. Most women in Manila are pretty wised up now, to all the things that go on in FC. If you find a girl outside of Manila, you could get lucky with "pretty and nice". But you should be willing to travel.

14. Patience is the key. I have found good ones. But you got to have a conversation, become friends, before you get to the next step.

15. The letter Z, stand for Zamboanga. It is in Mindanao. Not all are Muslims. And you can find some pretty girls there. But be willing to go there to the South. If you stand out in the crowd to be mugged, then not an option for you.

Hope this helps.

CTSome good pointers here CT. Even so a few of them up for discussion. Beeing a scandinavian your # 3 is spot on ofcourse, hehe.

# 4 I have flew in partygirls from Cebu to Manila. First time I was thinking like you so I flew down to Cebu to collect one girl myself (just arrived CEB, picked her up at the arrival hall and we checked in and flew back MNL). After this I have flown in partyfriends of her, no problem. They all show, don't even have to meet them at the airport and I only reimburse the ticket cost when they arrive (requires the girls have money for a planeticket herself ofcourse but atleast within this group they seem to have). So logistic can be tough but blinking out the right targets are only good fun and as easy as a swift Makati date realy and I don't have to leave my apartment before I pick them up downstairs. I spend 1 day with them only.

# 5/6 Beats eachother somewhat dead. True first time solo female travellers can have tough time dealing with the crazy NAIA immigration bunch. Though after they have a few stamps in their passport they have little to no trouble travel to SIN, BKK, HKG, CKG, DNP etc. Some money to show or atleast owning their own credit card will not hurt one bit. Today many girls have their own money and cards from my experience.

# 8 My initial response would be YES no matter what (to avoid beeing played). Can be fun pretending you never been in phils though if you get a feel the girl try play you a bit and then I agree NO would be my initial response just to play games with her as well. All in good fun.

# 10 HM, well I appreciate big time a girl beeing able to say more than this "Hi, how are you" crap. If I find a pretty and sexy one writing more than this and the msg build up is not looking "copy pasted (or as you state contains e mails)" I realy find that nice as she then stand out from her "sisters". But for the rest of your #10 I agree.

# 11 I must say I did have some good evidence from our precommunication this girl was playing me. When she told me her grandpa died she was ofcourse in big trouble as she had to fly back home and pay a lot for the funural. I could not help it but popped the question: "and how many times have he died lately? And that concluded our communication in a blink of a second.

# 12 Agreed. Should raise your alertness but block a spinner from only "feeling not good" is atleast in my book a tad to harsh. I have had them "feeling not to good" only due to having catched a cold and nothing else. So if she is a nice spinner atleast sort out why she is not feeling ok. Another MO I have used if a girl obviously have a lot of "problems" is answering her with problems (yours) beeing a lot worse than hers. My personal best is when this spinner obviously was trying to play my, ahem, good gullible nature, stating she did have some family emergencies needing money for speedy travel to the province. My swift reply to shut her up was simply my house just burned down and my car got ran over by a truck. That gave her the "huh?" and "ah ok" respond. All good fun ofcourse.

# 13 Yes some are wised up ofcourse. Some girls are well aware of totaly many guys are full of shit as well so they will be on high alert until you can calm them down. Talking to many girls over the years one bug problem is that many guys just say they will come to Manila but a very small percentage actually set foot on phil soil. This can make them girls loose faith in the males surrounding them in datingsites. I use mostly FB these days but I usually each trip now (I comeinto Makati quite frequent, just concluded my 14'th trip this year) make sure I have a new pic from a relatively well known Makati site showing date and time (just to make sure to the girl I am actually here quite often and no bullshit). On two occations I have used my hotels typhoon warnings (July and Sept) in combination with a selfie. Atleast the girls know you have been there quite recent.

# 14 Patience is ok but not to much atleast not in the beginning. After the initial few chats back and forth I will ask them for c2 c so I don't waste time on fuglies. Pinays are experts hiding their less beautiful sides in pics so only a pic is of no use to me in the long run. Have to webcam her. After directing my biz from datingsites and over to FB here you get a better feel of the girls as they have many times hundreds of pics of themself. So lately due to this I have skipped the webcams without getting any surprises when meeting them.

Pinaypounder
11-20-14, 21:03
Someone recently noted on this board how much success they had with Filipinocupid. Since I plan to visit the Philippines in the near future, I decided to join for a month. So far my experience on this site has been dismal. Virtually every attractive girl, with the exception of one, has ultimately admitted to me that she is living in Ghana with the same cock and bull story about someone in family died, etc. Etc. And she had to move. Total nonsense.

The only other women contacting me are old ladies and young fatties. I have been talking to one quite attractive girl who says she is not from Ghana, and lives in a far southern Phil province and city, but is angling for me to buy her a ticket to meet me in Hong Kong before I come to MNL. To say I am suspicious is an understatement. The city she claims to be from is the far southern city starting with the letter 'Z' where all the Muslims live. She seems to know about the problems there for Christians so perhaps she is telling me the truth.

The site even has a disclaimer about woman from Ghana contacting interested suitors but that has not deterred these women, if they even are women.

So perhaps can someone on board can explain how to work around this issue? Has anyone had success with this website?There are many good women on FC, many. Sadly the Hot ones from Zamboanga are fake, the Ghaan girls expose themselves quickly avoid the beauties currently in China, none are educated but all have amazing pics. None the less there is Pirate Chest of booty there with a little game.

My profile does not even have a pic as I met my "GF" there and don't need to be found there again but my list is GROWING daily. But I prefer 30 year old plus women that actually enjoy fucking so I am odd that way.

Be Patient Polite and Proper and you will find MANY!

PP.

Pinaypounder
11-20-14, 21:14
Whenever I get one of the Scammers from FC I always report them there is a button right on their profile I highly recommend doing so. I have reported many.

PP.

Hutsori
11-21-14, 00:28
I thought it is free for women, correct me if I am wrong! If paid for women too, I doubt so many will even visit the site.
FC can be free for anyone, but it won't be much use when both parties in the message are Standard members.

Standard members can view others' profiles. Their messages to Gold and Platinum members can be read and replied to without restriction. They can send and receive messages to other Standard users but only the first few characters of the message will be visible.

Tomasb
11-21-14, 00:55
I notice a lot of hot woman claim to be from Zamboanga? One of them even sent me some photos of her in panties and bra. She was the same girl from the other private photos she sent me -- a few pretty sexy shots so know it's the same girl.

Once I told her I was not flying her to Hong Kong to meet me and also not flying her to Cebu City either, she stopped writing me.

I also see quite a few beauties from China too.


There are many good women on FC, many. Sadly the Hot ones from Zamboanga are fake, the Ghaan girls expose themselves quickly avoid the beauties currently in China, none are educated but all have amazing pics. None the less there is Pirate Chest of booty there with a little game.

My profile does not even have a pic as I met my "GF" there and don't need to be found there again but my list is GROWING daily. But I prefer 30 year old plus women that actually enjoy fucking so I am odd that way.

Be Patient Polite and Proper and you will find MANY!

PP.

Hutsori
11-21-14, 01:06
14. Patience is the key. I have found good ones. But you got to have a conversation, become friends, before you get to the next step.

Yes and no. I believe exchanging a few friendly messages builds rapport and establishes a bit of trust for her to put aside what reservations she has about visiting my place on the first meeting. These messages could happen over several days or even weeks (if they live out of town, say in the Middle East - they often pass through Manila on their way home for their yearly vacation) or they may happen over a few hours and the girl arrives at my place later in the day. I also use her messages to determine whether she has a noggin on her shoulders. I like meeting girls who have a bit of smarts and are able to converse about things. It's true some use a copy-and-paste message or two but once you've exchanged a few with her you can suss that out.

1) Use your profile to clearly explain you're looking for a sexual relationship.

2 a) If the girl sends you a written message wherein she makes it clear she understands what you're looking for and is agreeable to it move on to figure out when you can meet cam2 cam and then face2 face.

2 b) If she sends you a "Hi" message, or an interest message, or makes you a favourite send your reply asking her whether she's read you profile and does she understand what you're looking for? Escalate with those who reply affirmatively.

WestCoast1
11-21-14, 01:18
I notice a lot of hot woman claim to be from Zamboanga? One of them even sent me some photos of her in panties and bra. She was the same girl from the other private photos she sent me -- a few pretty sexy shots so know it's the same girl.From the US Department Of State, dated today. Boldface and italics are mine.

Philippines Travel Warning, November 20, 2014:

The Department of State warns USA Citizens of the risks of travel to the Philippines, in particular to the Sulu Archipelago, the island of Mindanao, and the southern Sulu Sea area. This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated May 19,2014, and reflects continuing threats in those areas due to terrorist and insurgent activities.

USA Citizens should continue to defer non-essential travel to the Sulu Archipelago, due to the high threat of kidnapping of international travelers and violence linked to insurgency and terrorism there.

Based on a history of kidnappings and attempted kidnappings of foreigners in the Eastern Sabah province of Malaysia and in the southern Sulu Sea area by terrorist or insurgent groups based in the Sulu Archipelago, USA Citizens should continue to exercise extreme caution if considering travel in the southern Sulu Sea region from the southern tip of Palawan, along the coast of Sabah, Malaysia and the islands of the Sulu Archipelago, up to Zamboanga City, Mindanao.

USA Citizens should continue to exercise extreme caution if traveling to the main island of Mindanao in the southern Philippines. Separatist and terrorist groups across Mindanao continued their violent activities, conducting bombings and kidnappings, attacking civilians and political leaders, and battling Philippine security forces. In particular, the Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters (BIFF) remain active in the Cotabato City area, and in the Maguindanao, North Cotabato, and Sultan Kudarat provinces, where the government maintains a state of emergency and a greater police presence.

The Embassy has imposed a strict restriction on all but the most essential travel to Mindanao and the Sulu archipelago, and Embassy employees must receive special authorization from Embassy security officials to travel to any location in Mindanao and the Sulu archipelago, including urban centers.

We strongly recommend that USA Citizens traveling to or residing in the Philippines enroll in the Department of State's Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP). STEP enrollment gives you the latest security updates, and makes it easier for the nearest USA Embassy or consulate to contact you in an emergency. If you don't have Internet access, enroll directly with the nearest USA Embassy or consulate.

Regularly monitor the State Department's website, where you can find current Travel Warnings, Travel Alerts, and the Worldwide Caution. Read the Country Specific Information for the Philippines. For additional information, refer to the Traveler's Checklist on the State Department's website.

SNIP.

Pip Jaeger
11-21-14, 02:05
Received this recently on FC, from MNL with no photo this time. Note that on FC you can see who visited your profile, this one didn't. I've redacted the contact info, more for my own protection then hers.


"I have gone through your profile and,I wish we can know more about ourselves if you dont mind,I'm looking for a man who's kind, faithful,honest,caring and very understanding,Someone who's willing to love and accept me for who and what i am.I consider myself to be kind, loving, patient,romantic in heart,cheerful,loyal, friendly and with a good sense of humor.Dont border me if you are not serious on the site,You can get me on my email and we will share pictures and know ourselves better on (XXX@gmail) You can also Whatsapp me on +12345678Also note the "accept me for who and what I am" part; often, but not always, a clue that the poster is a ladyboy.

BrainDrain
11-21-14, 09:49
What do you guys think? Please share experiences.

I will be in Manila for a week of business meetings. I need to have a runner to help me with taxies, errands, Ministop supply visits etc I'm thinking of flying in an unmet DIA contact from CDO. She has business attire and a biz degree but no job. Scenario is she looks after my biz needs and also my nighttime needs.

Too messy? Easier just to find a GF in Manila?

Any experiences?

BD.

Member #4387
11-21-14, 10:44
What do you guys think? Please share experiences.

I will be in Manila for a week of business meetings. I need to have a runner to help me with taxies, errands, Ministop supply visits etc I'm thinking of flying in an unmet DIA contact from CDO. She has business attire and a biz degree but no job. Scenario is she looks after my biz needs and also my nighttime needs.

Too messy? Easier just to find a GF in Manila?

Any experiences?

BD.My experience from fly ins (quoting my own recent post). They were all(3 girls)unmet except from c2c checked and chatted to:

"I have flew in partygirls from Cebu to Manila. First time I was thinking like you so I flew down to Cebu to collect one girl myself (just arrived CEB, picked her up at the arrival hall and we checked in and flew back MNL). After this I have flown in partyfriends of her, no problem. They all show, don't even have to meet them at the airport and I only reimburse the ticket cost when they arrive (requires the girls have money for a planeticket herself ofcourse but atleast within this group they seem to have). So logistic can be tough but blinking out the right targets are only good fun and as easy as a swift Makati date realy and I don't have to leave my apartment before I pick them up downstairs. I spend 1 day with them only".

I normaly feast from Makati based girls. This fly ins was only for adding a bit spice into my mongering to avoid it becoming to monotonically. But yes, more easy pick up girls based here in Manila. Some will even claim it is useless I am sure. That is not my experience anyway.

Cool Traveler
11-21-14, 19:59
Yes, it costs for women. But it does not cost to join and browse. You cannot send a message if you do not have a subscription. Women can only contact (send messages) to someone who has a paid subscription. If they are subscribed, they can send to anyone. I do see a few women who have paid subscription. But I never click on them, because they are probably getting hit by every Tom, Dick and Harry, especially the Filipino guys. I think a lot of women do visit FC. Especially older women. I think it is because they figure, guys pay to join because they are "serious". This is an important word. "Serious". They will ask, are you serious. And your reply is, yes I am serious. And you are also right. You don't see as many younger chicks. Because it is not free. I also think most of these women sign on, to multiple sites. Sometimes using different pictures of themselves.

Rarely women would hit on you first. Especially when one is as ugly as me. Blonde, blue eyed guys like Skogis probably has the pick of the litter. The Pinays wants to have babies with guys like that. But we ugly guys have to work it. So, you are right. When they hit on you, it is probably a scam. Or she has 3 kids. Or she is 65, and her profile says 31 (a typo to them), and 1 of her 5 pictures shows a woman that you think is her mommy, but in reality it is her latest pic.

On all these sites. Look for normal conversation. Like a message starting with: Hi. How are you doing? My name is Jellybean. Can we be friends? Now this is normal. I always considered these dating sites, like you are sitting at a real bar, and hitting on girls, with no alcohol involved. Imagine hitting on chicks when you are 100% sober. That is what is going on here. So, now consider what kind of conversation would be going on? Normal right?

So, anything beyond this, it is a scam.

The scammers are starting to change. They are starting to use profiles with no pictures. Profiles with pictures of pretty girls, but with cities such as Davao etc. Pretty girl, take it to skype or yahoo and see them. In any case, never meet someone who you haven't had an extensive conversation exchanged pictures or cam'ed. I learn't this from mistakes. Including meeting a chick in a high end crowded bar. And the chick walks in, as I was just about to drink my German lager. And one look at her, and my beer shot out through my nose. It was a beautiful Pinay ladyboy. And the smiles I got from the gents at the other tables. I bought "her" a drink. And ski-daddled out of there quickly. Needless to say, I never went back to that bar, ever, and forever!! I will wait for one generation of bartenders to change over, maybe.

CT


Use tineye to check if those pictures are hers, as tineye can match 90% of fakes!!

I thought it is free for women, correct me if I am wrong! If paid for women too, I doubt so many will even visit the site.

No truer words.

If she hits on you, again, either she isn't true or she is a man!! Up your warning meter.

You will be surprised how many girls find it easier to go to HK than to SG.

LOL, same for me too. Though I don't regret the cuties that don't respond. I found cuter they are, the more they think their-shit-don't-stink!

LOL.

LOL again!

Others, pretty much agreed!

Nice write up.

Must be a sticky!

Cool Traveler
11-21-14, 20:10
When I meant patience. I didn't mean months. Hahaha. That would be too long. I meant days to weeks. For me, it is 2 weeks to get them to comply, and be assimilated. Basically, you are right. You have to get it to a point where they feel assured. Remember one thing. They are getting hit by many many guys, and who knows how many Filipinos there are, who are hitting on them, apart from us "Farangs". Jumping down their throat, right that second, will scare them off for good. And cam2 cam, and more extensive conversation on skype, FB or yahoo is essential.

Thanks for the response Skogis.

Amavida
11-22-14, 00:15
What do you guys think? Please share experiences.

I will be in Manila for a week of business meetings. I need to have a runner to help me with taxies, errands, Ministop supply visits etc I'm thinking of flying in an unmet DIA contact from CDO. She has business attire and a biz degree but no job. Scenario is she looks after my biz needs and also my nighttime needs.

Too messy? Easier just to find a GF in Manila?

Any experiences?

BD.Bad idea BD. CDO girl will be like a fish out of water unless she has / is spends a LOT of time in Manila. If this was a holiday only you could enjoy showing HER around Manila but since it's business forget it & 'employ' a local within your local barangay. Due to shortage of money they don't often venture from their immediate vicinity so get one who lives close by or she will be useless as a province girl. College girls, employed girls & semi pro's are better travelled.

AV.

BrainDrain
11-22-14, 02:13
Thanks Amavida and Skogis. I will look more locally. I do have one GF coming down from AC for an overnighter but I know she has few skills outside of the bedroom.

DO you think I find he local runner helper before arriving or once I'm on the ground? I don't want to spend a 'Manila. Day looking and would prefer the person to be available first up upon arrival.

Hutsori
11-22-14, 02:21
DO you think I find he local runner helper before arriving or once I'm on the ground? I don't want to spend a 'Manila. Day looking and would prefer the person to be available first up upon arrival.You ought to get a runner to help you find the runner.

But don't get the runner who pulls a runner. That's a bummer.

http://manila.en.craigslist.com.ph/trv/4736379634.html

Pantot
11-22-14, 02:34
DO you think I find he local runner helper before arriving or once I'm on the ground? I don't want to spend a 'Manila. Day looking and would prefer the person to be available first up upon arrival.Its funny because in the World's ground zero for GFE even though I just met them females, the monger vernacular for a 'runner' is the last thing we all look for. You are looking for a Girl Friday, educated, great sex, a business sense and discretion. Tall order indeed. If you look in the 30+ crowd you can find that actually I think. But amongst the attractive nubile ones available, unlikely.

Amavida
11-22-14, 03:40
Thanks Amavida and Skogis. I will look more locally. I do have one GF coming down from AC for an overnighter but I know she has few skills outside of the bedroom.

DO you think I find he local runner helper before arriving or once I'm on the ground? I don't want to spend a 'Manila. Day looking and would prefer the person to be available first up upon arrival.Be aware of the cultural trait to speak with great authority and conviction on matters which they no knowledge LOL! I lean towards waiting until you get there but you might get lucky on line. It's all part of the adventure!

AV.

BrainDrain
11-22-14, 21:51
Its funny because in the Worlds ground zero for GFE even though I just met them females, the monger vernacular for a 'runner' is the last thing we all look for. You are looking for a girl Friday, educated, great sex, a business sense and discretion. Tall order indeed. If you look in the 30+ crowd you can find that actually I think. But amongst the attractive nubile ones available, unlikely.Yes, my apologies on the use of that word. The Girl Friday sounds familiar. I think that is where I might look 30+, considering I'm 50+.

OneIpole
11-27-14, 09:23
This fucking blows. Twice now the girl is fucking fat and looks completely different. This is bullshit.

Ceegee
11-27-14, 09:50
This fucking blows. Twice now the girl is fucking fat and looks completely different. This is bullshit.I try to always pre-screen on cam to make sure this does not happen. The few times I have believed the bullshit story about why her cam does not work I have regretted it and the pictures that were sent to me were 20 years and 20 kilograms (45 pounds) ago.

Wicked Roger
11-27-14, 14:33
I try to always pre-screen on cam to make sure this does not happen. The few times I have believed the bullshit story about why her cam does not work I have regretted it and the pictures that were sent to me were 20 years and 20 kilograms (45 pounds) ago.I agree cam to cam (C at C) is the PNLY way to use the dating sites.

Could be worse? Well you could meet 2 LBs in the same day a friend did (no C2 C) - that was so funny especially when he cam back to the coffee shop tail between his legs LOL.

Even worse? 2 fat overweight and ugly LBs.

So OneIpole think yourself lucky, chalk it down to experience and it won't happen again (I hope).

Hutsori
11-27-14, 15:33
This fucking blows. Twice now the girl is fucking fat and looks completely different. This is bullshit.Sorry to hear of your misfortune, but pointing your finger at the dating site isn't going to change your luck. These dating sites don't screen the girls on your behalf. Use your webcam.

Doing due diligence: You're doing it wrong.

Don't stop believin'.

WestCoast1
11-27-14, 16:46
I try to always pre-screen on cam to make sure this does not happen. The few times I have believed the bullshit story about why her cam does not work I have regretted it and the pictures that were sent to me were 20 years and 20 kilograms (45 pounds) ago.Yes. A note to newbs: Remove from your radar any girl who is not dying to cam with you. Period. On occasion some girl will have an excuse not to cam (there are many reasons / excuses). I tell them not to bother re-contacting me until they can set up a time to cam with me. I'm not only uninterested in the 'why' she can't cam, I tell her that I'm no longer interested in chatting with her. This sounds a bit short and harsh, but it eliminates the above problems. Also, this is rare, the vast majority of girls can cam; therefor there is nothing lost by one fish not being caught.

There have been times in the past where a girl did not cam and fell off my radar. Once in town she discovered that I am at XYZ hotel (bamboo pipeline) and she leaves a message on my YM (or, alternately she showed at the hotel asking the front desk to leave a message for me) asking to meet right away, along with her phone number. I leave a message right back with her phone: Go to a cafe right now, get on cam, then we can decide if we want to meet. One girl in the province ignored the txt msg and came to the hotel lobby (twice in a few hours, the first time was to see if I was there, and when I wasn't she dropped off her phone number at the counter). The front desk rang my room. I told them to have the girl sit down and wait. I txt her again, telling her to go to a cafe around the corner and cam with me. She balked. I called the front desk and told them to tell the girl to go. Yes, its easiest to elevator down to the lobby and look at her and decide if she's worth being with. But I'm a stickler about the cam rule. She finally went to the cafe and cammed with me (I did not end up meeting with her -- her dating site profile said 19, in chat she said was 19, but really she was mid-late 20's -- and I had a date with a looker later).

Of course I'm willing to chat with her a time or two without cam. After that. . .

BrainDrain
11-27-14, 23:53
. Once in town she discovered that I am at XYZ hotel (bamboo pipeline) and she leaves a message on my YM (or, alternately she showed at the hotel asking the front desk to leave a message for me) asking to meet right away, along with her phone number. I leave a message right back with her phone: Go to a cafe right now, get on cam, then we can decide if we want to meet. One girl in the province ignored the txt msg and came to the hotel lobby (twice in a few hours, the first time was to see if I was there, and when I wasn't she dropped off her phone number at the counter). The front desk rang my room. I told them to have the girl sit down and wait. Sounds like good practice on the cam. I think I have been doing that as well.

I did learn one lesson in Cebu. I gave the girl the day of my flight arrival, so she waited at the terminal the entire day and probably approached every punter until I arrived in the afternoon.

These days I give an arrival day two days after my planned arrival. Easier to arrive earlier than have too many pinays banked up. I am also allusive as to my actual hotel, prefering to give a different hotel name. I always meet away from the hotel first, then bring them back.

Thanks for your updates.

BD.

Member #4387
11-28-14, 00:57
But I'm a stickler about the cam rule..Recently after moving more and more of my biz over to facebook (FB) I have not been so strict in my c2 c rules. Benefits from beeing able to scope their genuine FB I guess as here you can see their genuine pics as well and so far it has worked out just fine. If I sense their FB is just a fake one (like mine) I direct or lets say I demand c2 c them girls. But your c2 c MO is state of the art and something others (me incl) should copy or reach for. Atleast it will prevent meeting up with fuglies (aka waste of time).

Member #4643
11-30-14, 17:48
Recently after moving more and more of my biz over to facebook (FB) I have not been so strict in my c2 c rules. Benefits from beeing able to scope their genuine FB I guess as here you can see their genuine pics as well and so far it has worked out just fine. If I sense their FB is just a fake one (like mine) I direct or lets say I demand c2 c them girls. But your c2 c MO is state of the art and something others (me incl) should copy or reach for. Atleast it will prevent meeting up with fuglies (aka waste of time).When you guys do C2 C, what program / service do you use? Skype? Or is there some other option that is more Filipina friendly? Thanks, F.