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WestCoast1
11-30-14, 19:43
When you guys do C2 C, what program / service do you use? Skype? Or is there some other option that is more Filipina friendly? Thanks, F.Yahoo Messenger only. I think (correct me if I'm wrong), but one cannot skype with several others at the same time without the others knowing about it? YM lets me chat to multiple at the same time while viewing their cam. You can ask anyone at any time to wave at you to know they are not using a videotaped loop of another person. If a girl will not move quickly from a dating site message to YM in the next few days, I stop communicating with her. One or two YM chats at most without camming, otherwise I stop communicating with her. I ask quickly in the first / second dating site message if they can YM w / cam soon. Balkers get dropped. Dating site / YM / cam is the expectation and I make it known.

BrainDrain
11-30-14, 22:04
Yahoo Messenger only. I think (correct me if I'm wrong), but one cannot skype with several others at the same time without the others knowing about it? YM lets me chat to multiple at the same time while viewing their cam. You can ask anyone at any time to wave at you to know they are not using a videotaped loop of another person. If a girl will not move quickly from a dating site message to YM in the next few days, I stop communicating with her. One or two YM chats at most without camming, otherwise I stop communicating with her. I ask quickly in the first / second dating site message if they can YM w / cam soon. Balkers get dropped. Dating site / YM / cam is the expectation and I make it known.I have been using Skype but I only cam with girl one on one just for enough time to know they are pretty and they have good verbal english. Then I log off Skype. I also have YM but I have some firewall issues from my laptop and not always reliable.

As for the quality of the girls internet connection it is usually crap. Some have low bandwidth wifi. I love the way they always say must be my (braindrain's) connection.

BD.

Amavida
12-01-14, 02:34
When you guys do C2 C, what program / service do you use? Skype? Or is there some other option that is more Filipina friendly? Thanks, F.If you're a busy lad then you're going to need several I'm clients on your smartphone / tablet / desktop.

The poorest girls in the PI have a Yahoo email addy's & Yahoo Messenger because that is installed by default in provincial Internet cafe's.

The better educated &/ or more affluent use Skype & one of the many others. You can pretty much guess her exposure to foreigners by what service she is on.

Yahoo's software has lagged badly for years, it's pretty poor quality (freezes / crashes), nevertheless you will need to have an account. The girls can pretty much tell when you're chatting multiple girls simultaneously on Yahoo. They should know, they chat multiple men often.

AV.

OneIpole
12-04-14, 15:41
I agree cam to cam (C at C) is the PNLY way to use the dating sites.

Could be worse? Well you could meet 2 LBs in the same day a friend did (no C2 C) - that was so funny especially when he cam back to the coffee shop tail between his legs LOL.

Even worse? 2 fat overweight and ugly LBs.

So OneIpole think yourself lucky, chalk it down to experience and it won't happen again (I hope).Well that is true. It was a fatty and pretty nasty but at least it didn't have a dick!

Amavida
12-05-14, 00:18
Well that is true. It was a fatty and pretty nasty but at least it didn't have a dick!Its a numbers game. Know what you want, let it be known, qualify & sift through the chaff to find the gems. Your experience is just the beginning. Be prepared for nice surprises.

AV.

OldJedi
12-07-14, 02:30
Robinsons seams to "clean up" the entrance during Christmas time.

Nearly no girl inside the Pedro Gil at the entrance.

Only wandering around or in front of the entrance, outside the mall.

OneIpole
12-07-14, 16:09
Lets hope this Typhoon only takes a small [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on us tomorrow, I dread the electrical outages.

OldJedi
12-08-14, 14:14
Ruby is official only a tropical storm now, light rain in Manila. If it don't stop tonight, flooding tomorrow. (I hate the traffic in Manila during flooding).

Amavida
12-09-14, 00:19
Robinsons seams to "clean up" the entrance during Christmas time.

Nearly no girl inside the Pedro Gil at the entrance.

Only wandering around or in front of the entrance, outside the mall.Nah, it's self regulating. During holiday periods they're INSIDE with their blood sucking families, spending the money we have been giving them all year.

AV.

OldJedi
12-09-14, 01:00
Nah, it's self regulating. During holiday periods they're INSIDE with their blood sucking families, spending the money we have been giving them all year.

AV.Yup, you hit the bull's eye.

Ekspat
12-09-14, 08:28
(I hate the traffic in Manila during flooding).I hate it even without flooding.

Amavida
12-09-14, 08:42
I hate it even without flooding.Christmas crush + floods = OMFG Apocalytic 'trappic'.

AV.

Tungurahua
12-09-14, 11:30
Bit of a self-introduction as a newbie to the Philippines board. I began mongering in China. For years after I had yellow fever real bad. I found ISG in 2006 while in Ecuador. Traveling 30 months through South America I bed 254 women for 504 sessions, my fave locations being Quito, Medellin and Rio de Jainero. Cured of yellow fever, adoring Latinas, I no longer have the sexual energy of that particular period of time, but I still enjoy the company of a beautiful woman.

This time I am on the road 42 months, 17 done, 25 to go. Began in the South Pacific, into Indonesia. Due to Indy's limited two month visas I feel like I've been doing a motorcycling and diving marathon. Looked forward to a minimum of six months in the Philippines to slow things down.

Wednesday, landed in Manila, checked into a 700 peso box room, spent the day wandering the streets of Ermita investigating hotels for prices, short-term and long-term, room styles.

About 7 pm I go for a walk to watch night life. I have no intention of sexing. I make it six blocks before finding a little doll on the street who alters my resolve. Oh my, I need to bend her over. Joanna, 23 years, of Cebu, pretty face, slim, wearing a super-cute Hello Kitty outfit, quotes me 2000 pesos. Walk to Sogo, 300 pesos for 2 hours. A delight to look at, I enjoy the session.

Thursday. Contemplating an apartment for a month, I decide no. Based on my hotel inquiries I move into one across from Robinsons Place Ermita. It's a good location: grocery store in the mall, dozens of food outlets, shopping, cinema, internet, with LA Cafe two blocks away. The rooms are aged but spacious, with private bathroom, fridge, kitchen, air con. I pay a month at the reduced price of 21,000 pesos (700 per day = $16 usd), plus electricity and water. Guest friendly, she signs in at the door. Upon checkout front desk calls me to ensure all is ok.

In the aft I walk six hours to begin breaking down the city. Ermita through Rizal park, National museum, past glue kids into Intramuros, in and around Chinatown, ending the day at busy Quiapo church.

At night I stop by LA Cafe for a first look. One slim hottie has my attention, chat with her, quotes 2500. Great little body. But all I can think about is Joanna's pretty face. Exit, while walking I find Joanna and happily deposit another load in her cute Hello Kitty pussy. 2000 pesos.

Friday I walk another six hours, starting Quiapo church, exploring more of Chinatown, finding the street walkers around Astrotel and Sogo hotels. No stunners to be found but there is wild card potential. Sample two metro lines, end up in Star Mall, cut down Shaw Boulevard, jumping various vehicles to return to Ermita.

"A single girl made the grade."

In LA Cafe for a beer, I see a super-slender hottie who looks at me but does not smile, nor tries to initiate conversation. She kinda looks haughty, distanced, could be "I am a babe and I know it." She leaves after 30 minutes. So do I, returning to my apt for a shower. Back in LA Cafe I wait, observing women, guys sharking the pool table. The hottie returns. I wave her over. She is shy, reserved. It takes a bit for her to open up. Jay, 28, who looks 22, of Manila. We talk for a couple beers. She buys her own beer (me: "!!"). To hear better I slide her chair closer to mine. Reduced distance, she immediately melts into me. How much for a session? "It's up to you." (me: "!!") I laugh, saying we should talk a price lest she be disappointed. Agreed on 2000 for 2-3 hours.

"When I first saw you I wanted to kiss you. I thought you liked my friend, not me." (Jay).

In my pad we talk for two hours. I love her Salma Hayek voice and accent. By midnight we are making out, BBBJ for 25 minutes, and we fuck up a typhoon. When I finally blow my load in her mouth I note the time as 3 am. Wow. It was a moment where all the elements were aligned for a super-session. The right blend of personality, alcohol, and sexuality. She is clearly attracted to me, I to her. For ISGers who rave about the Philippine girlfriend experience, I get it now.

"Don't touch me or kiss me ok, I'll never leave." Ok, I say, touching and kissing her. For no extra cost, she stays the night and leaves 1 pm. Girlfriend heaven, far surpassing my expectations.

Saturday my dick is broken from fucking Jay, but I am on a sex-high nonetheless. Research ISG for the ACR-I card, thanks to ISGers who posted the relevant links. Print off the forms.

"Are you a soldier?
"Are you in the military?
"Are you a mountaineer?" (me: "haha!")
(men on the street, girl in LA Cafe).

Sunday. In the evening I hire a pedal bike to take me to the casas of Ermita. The fellow introduces me to (1) A2035 Adriatico street, (2) Ozzy's, (3) Green Lantern, (4) Red Rooster, (5) Bistro Emilio at 463 UN Avenue, (6) Amazonica. (I see Hussy's but do not go in.) I expect houses of the South American variety, but these are bars. Being Sunday the selection is not great but it made for a decent intro tour. The only fucklet I see is a super-slim hottie in Green Lantern, her first day working, quoted 3000 pesos for a night, passed.

On my way home a young thing, 22, I forget her name, outside LA Cafe agreed to 1000 pesos, 3 hours. Let's go. (Note: I walk away twice before she agrees to 1000). She's not the prettiest but the price is decent. She's done 3 Japanese men, no Westerners, nervous about the size of my cock. Within minutes she's asking when I'm going to cum. "You agreed to 3 hours, not 3 minutes." She is clearly uncomfortable, trembling, almost crying. I ask repeatedly, are you ok? She squeaks yes. I sigh and decide to get it over with, flipping her into doggie for orgasm and let her exit. For 1000 pesos I didn't mind. It's all venture capital.

Monday. 6 am I get a call, front desk says I have a visitor. Up comes Jay. We sleep till noon. She expects to meet a client at 1:30 pm but decides to stay with me. She is confused about us, scolding herself for liking a client. She wants to spend time with me but does not want to "give it away." So I joke "The next time you come to my apt I will refuse you entry, tell you to meet me in LA Cafe, negotiate a price, so I get sex, you get money, and both of us are happy. " She laughs, this lightens the mood, within an hour she is sucking my cock for free. Watching her I think to myself: "now this is living."

Making out, I use my fingers to feel her pussy slick wet. I'm straining, dying to be inside her. Pure candy. Slooow as possible for as looong as possible. Another great fuck, I pull out and paint her belly. Pizza supper with the lady. By 6 pm off she goes to LA Cafe.

Tuesday. Read the first 70 pages of ISG Manila. There is a lot of ISG opinion for / against LA Cafe, Manila, Philippine women in general. Yes, Manila is a shithole but so are many other Asian megacities. I think Chinese women are the most beautiful type of Asian, but put her against a blue-eyed blond-haired voluptuous German, who are my favorite European, and Chinese beauties become little girls. Separating Philippine women from the standards of other nations, Phil girls are a different type of beauty. Speaking English is a huge plus in their favor. Their petite slender bodies are a youthful turn on. Perhaps at Manila prices they would not appeal to a younger Tungurahua who was hell bent on fucking 7's, 8's and 9's for $6-15. But on this tour, at this time in my life, I prefer Phil girls over Indy girls (who rarely speak English). Where else can one find the strange and unique cultural confluence of Latin-Asians who speak English.

While EDSA sounds too expensive for me to enjoy, Burgos Street the same (but worthy of a look), dance clubs are of interest. I am primarily here to relax from the relentless pace of my travels, but I will continue investigating mongering options as I explore the city and its districts. Pouncing on exquisite Pinay pussies as I stumble across them.

Key Master
12-09-14, 20:57
I really enjoyed reading your experiences. The women can be amazing and is what keeps bringing many men back to there. Enjoy, but be careful of the women falling in love or saying that or yourself!

Free2
12-09-14, 22:02
Great read. I especially liked the summary of casas. Will do the tour next time I am there.

Redman69
12-09-14, 22:43
Know the area well, Glad you understand the GFE, I did Costa Rica for 5 years before going back to Asia. Wish you had question for me to answer. Really smart going back 40 pages. I have suggested that to others. I use ISG world wide. It has lots of Thailand advice also. Be safe. After dark stay sober. Walk the middle of the street at night. Have fun, Feliz Navidad.

Tungurahua
12-11-14, 11:37
One night in LA Cafe a cute girl sits beside me and says I look lonely. I smile. Later I find her sitting alone under the stairs "You look lonelier." We laugh and agree this is the "sad corner." Two nights no clients. Been in Manila 9 days. A few minutes of conversation I ask if she has a boyfriend. "It's hopeless" -- she states in a way that makes me burst into laughter.

Tuesday. Two nights later I see her again. She's in black tights, outlining her legs and shapely ass. I wave her over. How about 1500 for two hours. She instantly accepts. The quick response time interests me. I am testing the waters.

Jaylyn, 27 years, hardbody of a teen. "You look like a nice man." That sets the stage. Be nice and these girls open up to be ravaged in bed. In the apt, talk for half hour, too shy for a BJ. Doesn't matter, she kisses, more than enough to enter her tight soul. As we both love Rihanna, her cell phone plays tunes.

I let Jaylyn cowgirl to comfortably manage entry. She slides down on the pole and starts riding. Flipping her over, legs high spread wide, slow and delicious, bump and grind, rapid thrusts. "Oh shit! Oh shit! Oh shit!" she moans, cheeks flushed, looking into my eyes with love.

Pull her to the bed corner for extra depth. Flip to doggie, flat-doggie, blow my load on her back. Both of us really enjoy our time together. Two hours, 1500 pesos, off she goes to LA. Another brilliant girlfriend fuckfest: my dick is glowing pink from indulgence.

Wednesday is memorable. I blow 3 loads without spending a dime.

9:30 am, front desk calls. Jay (not Jaylyn) comes up. I said come by anytime. We snuggle and snooze. Later, "stop touching me, you make me hot." She starts kissing my neck, proceeds to bathe my cock in spit. Watching her pendant, Jesus on the cross, dangle by my cock as she goes down on me, is an interesting visual. Off come our clothes, in goes my cock, out comes a load. This is my third time with her (one paid, two freebies). Each time we are together I hear a revised truth, including some impressive facts. Her client last night paid her 7000 pesos. She has a sugar daddy wiring money. Family intrigues, and more. I can only speculate how far this rabbit hole goes down into the murky depths.

11 pm, LA Cafe, two girls invite me to their table. Sure. They bought a beer tower, give me a glass and keep filling it. One is really cute. Gem, 23, long flowing black curly hair past her ass. "Why do Western guys always pick ugly girls?" her friend asks.

Gem talks "of the heart," how money should not interfere with the heart. Ok, I ask to clarify "so you want to come home with me for no money?" "Yes."

By 1:50 am I am getting the sweetest, craziest fuck of my short life. Imagine a woman who loves her man and knows she is going to die in two hours. That's the kind of frenzied, passionate, hardcore, uninhibited, tongue on tongue, bareback fucking Gem smothers me with over next two hours. Mind blowing sex.

She's like a 40 year old pro at the top of her game in the body of an 8teenie. The look on Gem's face, in her eyes, as she forcefully gobbles my cock to base -- and holds. Holy fuck.

"I like you. I like you soooo much!!!" she says over and over and over I as thrust. Then "I like it on top." Does she ever: those hips rock back and forth, up and down in rapid-fire like I've never experienced before.

And the shouting!!! She's yelling and screaming as she rides the cock. I lay back, amazed by the sight, thinking "who is this girl?!" It's like a dream.

I'm back on top. "I will never forget you!!!" she whispers repeatedly, intensely, urgently while I am feeding her cock. "Cum in me!" she pleads "I can't get pregnant." What?! Fuck that. After several delays, I wind up, pull out and spray her toned hard tummy and pert tits.

Session 1. We dress. I expect she will go. Hugs, caresses, kisses. I suspect I may never see her again. Within 30 minutes we are ripping our clothes off. She rams the cock down her throat, holding.

I re-mount that explosive little hole between her legs, her feet in the air. 20 minutes of grunting, I can feel a second load building, a few delays, pull out and fire across her belly. This time she quickly slides under me and her mouth suctions my cock as it throbs in orgasm -- HOLY SHIT!!! It catapults me into the stratosphere, I convulse in body spasms, and burst into laughter as I float down.

I always dream of the porn star who sucks on a guy's cock post-orgasm -- that is pure love, pure lust, the sweetest act of worship a woman can do for a man. And here she is sucking my cock.

I walk her back to LA Cafe. True to her word, I didn't pay her a peso.

O my god. I've died and gone to heaven. Bury my corpse in the Philippines.

WestCoast1
12-11-14, 15:41
Another brilliant girlfriend fuckfest: my dick is glowing pink from indulgence.


She starts kissing my neck, proceeds to bathe my cock in spit. Watching her pendant, Jesus on the cross, dangle by my cock as she goes down on me, is an interesting visual. Off come our clothes, in goes my cock, out comes a load.


Imagine a woman who loves her man and knows she is going to die in two hours. That's the kind of frenzied, passionate, hardcore, uninhibited, tongue on tongue, bareback fucking Gem smothers me with over next two hours. Mind blowing sex.


She's like a 40 year old pro at the top of her game in the body of an 8teenie. The look on Gem's face, in her eyes, as she forcefully gobbles my cock to base -- and holds. Holy fuck.


And the shouting!!! She's yelling and screaming as she rides the cock. I lay back, amazed by the sight, thinking "who is this girl?!" It's like a dream.


Session 1. We dress. I expect she will go. Hugs, caresses, kisses. I suspect I may never see her again. Within 30 minutes we are ripping our clothes off. She rams the cock down her throat, holding.


I always dream of the porn star who sucks on a guy's cock post-orgasm -- that is pure love, pure lust, the sweetest act of worship a woman can do for a man. And here she is sucking my cock. I walk her back to LA Cafe. True to her word, I didn't pay her a peso.


O my god. I've died and gone to heaven. Bury my corpse in the Philippines.OMG you're killing me here! Welcome, young man, to Pinas, the wild-west of sex!

OldJedi
12-12-14, 08:55
Tungurahua welcome to the GFE heaven.

We should have a "Donate" button for your reports.

Thank you.

Econo Tech
12-13-14, 03:53
OMG you're killing me here! Welcome, young man, to Pinas, the wild-west of sex!Amen to that.

+1.

Pcpc1688
12-13-14, 09:56
Are the massage ads all ROBS or are there some legit good ones. What is the damage usually for a outcall to hotel / Apt etc? I'm actually going to stay near P Burgos area.

Is traffic that bad at 1030 pm to Makati?

PC out.

Big Poppa II
12-13-14, 16:12
Are the massage ads all ROBS or are there some legit good ones. What is the damage usually for a outcall to hotel / Apt etc? I'm actually going to stay near P Burgos area.

Is traffic that bad at 1030 pm to Makati?

PC out.I got good massages at my hotel for 350 an hour, no extras thought. Minimum two hours.

BP.

CookieDude
12-15-14, 19:06
Just returned from a trip to Manila and Cebu. Head is still spinning and dick is still sore from all the exercise. This time didn't spend time going around to clubs / bars. Discovered several gems on FB pages and groups with genuine pics, services offered and prices. Contacted few in advance so didn't have to play lot of phone (text?) tag. Was there for 6 days and had sex for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Day 1: Had this beauty who claimed to be half american, 1/4 Chinese and 1/4 pinay. Beautiful soft creamy skin and pointy boobs with pink nips. Started sucking and tasted milk (wtf? Claimed to be some hormones and said guys loved it (really? She was crazy and loved to fuck by the hotel window. Exhibitionist!! Sucked cock like there was no tomorrow. Spent 3 hrs in all sort of positions and was spent. Had some local energy booster she suggested and it worked! Was ready for next round in the evening. This time with a local MILF but with a tight bod.

Day 2-6 - repeat of Day 1 but with all sort of exotic beauties from all over Philippines. Couple were pretty new to this line, felt like a tutor guiding and helping them learn new tricks. One very pretty girl. Student and writer, fiercely independent minded, loved the conversation but was bit uptight when it came to sex. Gave awesome slurping blowjob but didn't like oral too much in return. 19 yr old with firm body and what boobs! Didn't want to detach from them.

Give me Manila any day over HK, Korea, S'pore, Malaysia etc.

Pip Jaeger
12-16-14, 04:27
Thanks for the FR, but it would've been nice if you had expounded on some of the details; a few pics would have been good too.


Just returned from a trip to Manila and Cebu. SNIP

Day 1: Had this beauty who claimed to be half american, 1/4 Chinese and 1/4 pinay. Beautiful soft creamy skin and pointy boobs with pink nips. Started sucking and tasted milk (wtf? Claimed to be some hormones and said guys loved it (really?Guess you were a "bottle baby", IMHO there's nothing better than fresh milk, LOL. She from MNL of Cebu? How much of a donation did you give her for her time? PM me her details, I love mother's milk and I also love a good BJ.


Had some local energy booster she suggested and it worked! What's name of it? Where can you get it? What's the cost? Any side effects?

Amavida
12-16-14, 05:43
What's name of it? Where can you get it? What's the cost? Any side effects?Probably talking about that Extra Joss shit they buy in sari sari stores LOL! Fun to read FR's from some new blood for a change.

AV.

LuvAsianTang
12-16-14, 06:34
Are the massage ads all ROBS or are there some legit good ones. What is the damage usually for a outcall to hotel / Apt etc? I'm actually going to stay near P Burgos area.

Is traffic that bad at 1030 pm to Makati?

PC out.I was just there about a week ago and all I did was take a walk down to p burgos around 8 pm and the streets were lined with massage girls in uniforms. I just pick the one I like and tell her that I want a good massage and a fuck and go from there. About 75 % just asked how much I give them. Usually it was 1500 + a really good tip (to be determined on quality of service) + the massage usually 4 to 500 for room service. If she was good the tip was 500 if just ok usually 2 to 300. Make sure that's a 2 hour service, one for massage and one for sex. Also make sure you know what she will and won't do before you get to your room. One girl wanted to stay with me after her shift and watch tv I said "sure " LOL and let her watch a little bit while I went down on her and then aimed her at the tv and did her doggy style while she watched some cartoon. She started out laughing at the cartoon and in no time I had her barking at the tv and slamming back against my manly belly. There's so much fun to be had in the philippines.

LAT.

Lalake
12-16-14, 06:59
Are the massage ads all ROBS or are there some legit good ones. What is the damage usually for a outcall to hotel / Apt etc? I'm actually going to stay near P Burgos area.

Is traffic that bad at 1030 pm to Makati?

PC out.I just happened to post in the Makati thread about massages in P Burgos. So I'm interested to know if anyone has taken these girls in these massages houses that I see on the street. Not talking about "outcalls" as my hotel is too far away now that traffic is a pain. Just thought it would be nice to get a rub and tug either before going out to the bars, or after going to bars and seeing all those hot chicks w / their titties out.

As for traffic: hell ya. I haven't been to Burgos in 2 years. And traffic wasn't that bad a couple years ago, but last night it took us an hour to go 3 miles.

Pcpc1688
12-16-14, 18:39
I was just there about a week ago and all I did was take a walk down to p burgos around 8 pm and the streets were lined with massage girls in uniforms. I just pick the one I like and tell her that I want a good massage and a fuck and go from there. About 75 % just asked how much I give them. Usually it was 1500 + a really good tip (to be determined on quality of service) + the massage usually 4 to 500 for room service. If she was good the tip was 500 if just ok usually 2 to 300. Make sure that's a 2 hour service, one for massage and one for sex. Also make sure you know what she will and won't do before you get to your room. One girl wanted to stay with me after her shift and watch tv I said "sure " LOL and let her watch a little bit while I went down on her and then aimed her at the tv and did her doggy style while she watched some cartoon. She started out laughing at the cartoon and in no time I had her barking at the tv and slamming back against my manly belly. There's so much fun to be had in the philippines.

LAT.So your saying that on Burgos, its about 2 k or so for them to come to room? Then if it clicks whatever happens is up to her what she wants do or not.

PC out.

Free2
12-16-14, 18:51
....Discovered several gems on FB pages and groups with genuine pics, services offered and prices. Contacted few in advance so didn't have to play lot of phone (text?) tag. ....I am curious about what you say about Facebook. Where do we view services offered and prices there? It seems to easy this way, but if possible please let me know (via PM if you want).

Amavida
12-16-14, 23:05
So your saying that on Burgos, its about 2 k or so for them to come to room? Then if it clicks whatever happens is up to her what she wants do or not.

PC out.In any of the big cities that's about what it costs you in the end. It's a sign of the times that P. Burgos is now flooded with girls plying this new 'trade'.

AV.

Pcpc1688
12-16-14, 23:17
Meet a girll / LB who the fuck knows.

500 p BBBJCIM, was here for 15 minutes.

Oh well, I needed to dump a load.

PC out.

BrainDrain
12-17-14, 09:03
So your saying that on Burgos, its about 2 k or so for them to come to room? Then if it clicks whatever happens is up to her what she wants do or not.

PC out.Looking at one of my old FR reports from 2013 my massage on P Burgos was P500 each. Extras were available. The place was upstairs.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1451865&viewfull=1#post1451865 if this helps.

FlapFlap
12-17-14, 14:38
Discovered several gems on FB pages and groups with genuine pics, services offered and prices. Contacted few in advance so didn't have to play lot of phone (text?) tag. Was there for 6 days and had sex for breakfast, lunch and dinner.I'm also curious about the pages and would really appreciate a PM with more info!

Cbea20
12-18-14, 04:03
Use the Facebook Search function. I plugged in "Manila escort" and found a few. Or find one girl offering services and view her friends list. I have only looked, not followed up.


I'm also curious about the pages and would really appreciate a PM with more info!

Tungurahua
12-18-14, 11:02
Thursday, Dec 11. After three free loads on Wednesday, fucking a mind-blowing pussy, I expect sessions with new girls to be tame. The first is. Picked petite Sara, 27 years. She is quieter, less expressive in the sack, lame BBBJ, though the cream gushing out of her pussy says she enjoys the sex. Started as 1000 pesos for 2 hours, upgraded to overnight for 1500. I blow two loads. She wants to hang out. No thanks. FF. Fuck. Forget. On subsequent nights she shows up at my place when I have company. I put an end to it: if you are not invited do not come here.

Friday, Dec 12. Playing pool with girls gives me an opportunity to observe potential fucks in better lighting, from multiple angles. It allows me to plant seeds around the bar as I never know how the night will progress, what seeds will sprout. Teresa is one such girl. In a heated battle down to a single 8 ball she wins games 4-3. Witch.

During a walk around I spot sex-weapon Gem. She's busy with a fellow. After a couple hours, the night bleeding away, I give up on Gem, grab Teresa, propose 1000 pesos for 2 hours. The initial look on her face tells me she expected more, but she accepts, off we go. Teresa is not the most beautiful girl the bar, a little chubby, but she is super-friendly, smart, we get along and the price is solid.

CRACK! The ball clears the stadium. Another home run. She's a lot of fun in the sack. It is beautiful sexing in slippery sweat, french kissing, eating her pussy, listening to her squeals. The cock is like steel fucking these girlfriends. The right mix of alcohol, I can cum on command. Her legs shaking, I let her rest a few minutes between attacks. "I think it is going to hurt to walk" she laughs. She is in heaven taking the cock. 4:40 am, lying on her tummy for a rest, that's my cue. I mount in flat-dog and pump to explode. I tell her she is great in bed. She admits I give her the best fucking of her 23 year old life. Later, in a solitaire afterglow, I am lying on the bed, flipping channels, smile on my face, the stink of her pussy on my cock.

How do other Philippines ISGers keep their egos in check doing this for months and years on end?! A part of me feels I am morphing into a God.

Saturday, Dec 13. LA Cafe is incredible. It's a revolving door for thousands of females. The girls outnumber males by what? 7 to 1? 10 to 1? Often I sit quietly with a drink, recovering from the previous night, taking the scene in, contemplating the variables of unlimited girlfriend experiences, endless ecstasy. Every new girl that walks though that door is potentially screaming my name, worshipping my cock. Each Pinay screaming for love, attention, a small contribution to their child's Christmas fund. At this rate, by month's end, I will run out of words to describe these experiences.

By 11:30 pm I spot delicious Gem. We shoot pool, a few drinks. We discuss her idea of 'friends with benefits.' To disco Exklusiv for a couple hours. We look perfectly synchronized. Eyes on us. Making out on the dance floor. She takes notice I am kissing her in public, knowing I want only her in a crowded room of females.

In my apt there is two hours of blistering hot sex. I think a part of my psyche snaps under the strain of her intense fucking, not wanting to pull out, blissfully shooting my load inside her sweet pussy by 5 am.

Sunday, Dec 14 to Tuesday, Dec 16. This is the start of a three-day fuckfest with Gem: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. I dress only to make food and alcohol runs.

We laze in bed, naked, watch movies, laugh, caress, snuggle. God I love my paws on her sweet tits. Her ass cheeks are built for my hands. That perfect little ass as she lies on her tummy, legs spread. Occasionally she rolls over and starts sucking my cock, gets me raging hard, then resumes watching tv. Or I stick a finger into her pussy, she whimpers, I pull it out and and taste her. We both love to tease. Holy fuck we make each other crazy.

The hours haze together, days disappear, we fuck every few hours. Of multiple sessions, I shoot two or three loads a day. I lose count of her orgasms. Scenes. My teeth locked, grunting, thrusting into her, she says "cum in my mouth!" I pull out and shoot over her pretty lips, onto her tongue. Another, she mounts me cowgirl, I let her go at it, she pops off two orgasms, her body breaking out in a sheen of hot sweat each time. The liquor bottles pile up. The garbage bins overflow. The sex continues, her pussy, my cock, simultaneously incinerating our brains.

The look on her face as she takes my cock is unreal. She loves cowgirl, using my pelvis as a washboard for her clit. I love watching her ass bounce up and down on my cock as she sprints into another crashing orgasm. "I'm cumming!" she yells. The O's pile up. When she rolls off, my stiff cock is glistening in her cum. After shooting more lust into her soul, I peel myself off her, she starts singing "Hallelujah!" mimicking an angelic choir. We laugh. Life is gorgeous. Moments like these are rare.

We spoil each other rotten. We both know at some point this fuckfest has to end. A violent ecstasy burns its junkie users out after prolonged exposure, becomes the normal, then boring and hellish. Wednesday morning she departs. For three days of hardcore fucking I give her 500 pesos for a taxi home. I like friends with benefits. Free of Gem, immediately I am yearning to fuck fresh pussies, yet all-too aware my expectations are due for a correction.

"I know your motives and you know mine.
The ones that love me I tend to leave behind.
If you know about me and choose to stay.
Then take this pleasure and take it with the pain."
Ariana Grande, Love Me Harder
(my current Goddess)

Wednesday, Dec 17. Strangely, after three days locked away, I feel out of place, out of practice, in LA Cafe. From 9 pm to 2 am I cannot make up my mind. Drinking too many beers. Go upstairs for the first time, pay the 100 peso entrance. Find a group of girls in the back, I play pool with them. One girl, Kathy, 23, pretty, slim. Yes. She wants 2000. I'll give 1500, bump it up to 1700. Hums, haws, looks at her friends (as if it is shameful to accept less than 2000), accepts.

In my apt Kathy asks me who the girl with the curly hair is. Here we go. Gem was giving me looks every five minutes in the bar, going to the bathroom, looking in on me. Kathy noticed every stare. This is Gem's idea of mutual freedom and friends with benefits?! **sigh**

Focus. Kathy is a hottie to look at, nice body, great tits, comfortable with the lights on, but try as I can to keep an open mind, she doesn't meet GF expectations. Does not kiss. The spark doesn't ignite as I'm fucking her. I can't get into it. I eat her pussy for a while. She loves it, tells me she came five times. Me: "!?!?" I can feel her muscles tensing, but wow she is quiet. She spins onto all fours, tells me to fuck her doggie. Hmmm, perhaps I can get into this. I do. Flatdog eruption.

Thursday, Dec 18. ISG update. The Christmas blowout sale continues in LA Cafe. From the countryside and Metro Manila lovely little sex soldiers are pouring in by the hundreds, locked in a fierce Christian battle, as instructed by Jesus himself, to win donations for their families. My expectations, post-nuclear Gem, are slowly resetting. Time to get ready.

Redman69
12-19-14, 00:38
Well you are not God.

Glad you are getting your Christmas shopping done.

Try not to kill yourself. As you have gone way past the GFE.

Pcpc1688
12-19-14, 06:04
Thursday, Dec 11. After three free loads on Wednesday, fucking a mind-blowing pussy, I expect sessions with new girls to be tame. The first is. Picked petite Sara, 27 years. She is quieter, less expressive in the sack, lame BBBJ, though the cream gushing out of her pussy says she enjoys the sex. Started as 1000 pesos for 2 hours, upgraded to overnight for 1500. I blow two loads. She wants to hang out. No thanks. FF. Fuck. Forget. On subsequent nights she shows up at my place when I have company. I put an end to it: if you are not invited do not come here.

Friday, Dec 12. Playing pool with girls gives me an opportunity to observe potential fucks in better lighting, from multiple angles. It allows me to plant seeds around the bar as I never know how the night will progress, what seeds will sprout. Teresa is one such girl. In a heated battle down to a single 8 ball she wins games 4-3. Witch.

During a walk around I spot sex-weapon Gem. She's busy with a fellow. After a couple hours, the night bleeding away, I give up on Gem, grab Teresa, propose 1000 pesos for 2 hours. The initial look on her face tells me she expected more, but she accepts, off we go. Teresa is not the most beautiful girl the bar, a little chubby, but she is super-friendly, smart, we get along and the price is solid.

CRACK! The ball clears the stadium. Another home run. She's a lot of fun in the sack. It is beautiful sexing in slippery sweat, french kissing, eating her pussy, listening to her squeals. The cock is like steel fucking these girlfriends. The right mix of alcohol, I can cum on command. Her legs shaking, I let her rest a few minutes between attacks. "I think it is going to hurt to walk" she laughs. She is in heaven taking the cock. 4:40 am, lying on her tummy for a rest, that's my cue. I mount in flat-dog and pump to explode. I tell her she is great in bed. She admits I give her the best fucking of her 23 year old life. Later, in a solitaire afterglow, I am lying on the bed, flipping channels, smile on my face, the stink of her pussy on my cock.

How do other Philippines ISGers keep their egos in check doing this for months and years on end?! A part of me feels I am morphing into a God.

Saturday, Dec 13. LA Cafe is incredible. It's a revolving door for thousands of females. The girls outnumber males by what? 7 to 1? 10 to 1? Often I sit quietly with a drink, recovering from the previous night, taking the scene in, contemplating the variables of unlimited girlfriend experiences, endless ecstasy. Every new girl that walks though that door is potentially screaming my name, worshipping my cock. Each Pinay screaming for love, attention, a small contribution to their child's Christmas fund. At this rate, by month's end, I will run out of words to describe these experiences.

By 11:30 pm I spot delicious Gem. We shoot pool, a few drinks. We discuss her idea of 'friends with benefits.' To disco Exklusiv for a couple hours. We look perfectly synchronized. Eyes on us. Making out on the dance floor. She takes notice I am kissing her in public, knowing I want only her in a crowded room of females.

In my apt there is two hours of blistering hot sex. I think a part of my psyche snaps under the strain of her intense fucking, not wanting to pull out, blissfully shooting my load inside her sweet pussy by 5 am.

Sunday, Dec 14 to Tuesday, Dec 16. This is the start of a three-day fuckfest with Gem: Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. I dress only to make food and alcohol runs.

We laze in bed, naked, watch movies, laugh, caress, snuggle. God I love my paws on her sweet tits. Her ass cheeks are built for my hands. That perfect little ass as she lies on her tummy, legs spread. Occasionally she rolls over and starts sucking my cock, gets me raging hard, then resumes watching tv. Or I stick a finger into her pussy, she whimpers, I pull it out and and taste her. We both love to tease. Holy fuck we make each other crazy.

The hours haze together, days disappear, we fuck every few hours. Of multiple sessions, I shoot two or three loads a day. I lose count of her orgasms. Scenes. My teeth locked, grunting, thrusting into her, she says "cum in my mouth!" I pull out and shoot over her pretty lips, onto her tongue. Another, she mounts me cowgirl, I let her go at it, she pops off two orgasms, her body breaking out in a sheen of hot sweat each time. The liquor bottles pile up. The garbage bins overflow. The sex continues, her pussy, my cock, simultaneously incinerating our brains.

The look on her face as she takes my cock is unreal. She loves cowgirl, using my pelvis as a washboard for her clit. I love watching her ass bounce up and down on my cock as she sprints into another crashing orgasm. "I'm cumming!" she yells. The O's pile up. When she rolls off, my stiff cock is glistening in her cum. After shooting more lust into her soul, I peel myself off her, she starts singing "Hallelujah!" mimicking an angelic choir. We laugh. Life is gorgeous. Moments like these are rare.

We spoil each other rotten. We both know at some point this fuckfest has to end. A violent ecstasy burns its junkie users out after prolonged exposure, becomes the normal, then boring and hellish. Wednesday morning she departs. For three days of hardcore fucking I give her 500 pesos for a taxi home. I like friends with benefits. Free of Gem, immediately I am yearning to fuck fresh pussies, yet all-too aware my expectations are due for a correction.

"I know your motives and you know mine.
The ones that love me I tend to leave behind.
If you know about me and choose to stay.
Then take this pleasure and take it with the pain."
Ariana Grande, Love Me Harder
(my current Goddess)

Wednesday, Dec 17. Strangely, after three days locked away, I feel out of place, out of practice, in LA Cafe. From 9 pm to 2 am I cannot make up my mind. Drinking too many beers. Go upstairs for the first time, pay the 100 peso entrance. Find a group of girls in the back, I play pool with them. One girl, Kathy, 23, pretty, slim. Yes. She wants 2000. I'll give 1500, bump it up to 1700. Hums, haws, looks at her friends (as if it is shameful to accept less than 2000), accepts.

In my apt Kathy asks me who the girl with the curly hair is. Here we go. Gem was giving me looks every five minutes in the bar, going to the bathroom, looking in on me. Kathy noticed every stare. This is Gem's idea of mutual freedom and friends with benefits?! **sigh**

Focus. Kathy is a hottie to look at, nice body, great tits, comfortable with the lights on, but try as I can to keep an open mind, she doesn't meet GF expectations. Does not kiss. The spark doesn't ignite as I'm fucking her. I can't get into it. I eat her pussy for a while. She loves it, tells me she came five times. Me: "!?!?" I can feel her muscles tensing, but wow she is quiet. She spins onto all fours, tells me to fuck her doggie. Hmmm, perhaps I can get into this. I do. Flatdog eruption.

Thursday, Dec 18. ISG update. The Christmas blowout sale continues in LA Cafe. From the countryside and Metro Manila lovely little sex soldiers are pouring in by the hundreds, locked in a fierce Christian battle, as instructed by Jesus himself, to win donations for their families. My expectations, post-nuclear Gem, are slowly resetting. Time to get ready.Dude you are a riot. Penthouse forum can't write the fiction you wrote here LOL.

I'm not a young man but shit brother. LOL.

I'm jealous haha.

Pc out.

Cunning Stunt
12-19-14, 06:43
Dude you are a riot. Penthouse forum can't write the fiction you wrote here LOL.

Did you really have to quote the entire fucking report? Jeez.

Pcpc1688
12-19-14, 09:14
Did you really have to quote the entire fucking report? Jeez.The phone thing didn't work with text unfortunately oh well sorry it annoyed you sir Stunt.

PC out.

Socker
12-19-14, 10:47
The phone thing didn't work with text unfortunately oh well sorry it annoyed you sir Stunt.

PC out.Do you have any standing and if so where is it?

I will say your brown nosing is stellar for Tungurahua.

Stick w / The Penthouse Forum and you'll have no complaints.

Again, stick w / Penthouse, better for everyone, out.

Happy Happy.

Pcpc1688
12-19-14, 11:52
Do you have any standing and if so where is it?

Dear Socker, regardless of your arrogant pompous statement if u don't know then you just don't know me so hold the attitude pal.

I will say your brown nosing is stellar for

As for brown nosing I don't even know the guy.

Stick w /, The Penthouse Forum and you'll have no complaints.

Who was complaining?

Again, stick w / Penthouse, better for everyone.

Again your pompous arrogant comments are unwarranted pal. I have fucked more
Asian tang than your fat and old ass could muster so cool it as no one
Was even referring anything to u

Happy Happy.Anyhow since you don't know me.

From Adam, comments like yours are just BS.

PC out.

AlLostInSpace13
12-21-14, 19:29
Hehehe some of these reports are so perfect that is almost impossible to have really happened.

My 2 cents.

Spaceman.

Beijing4987
12-21-14, 21:25
Fellow Board Members.

Please don't waste space responding to Penthouse Letters! Go to Settings and use the ignore setting. If nobody quotes him you will not be bothered again.

Socker
12-21-14, 21:35
Anyhow since you don't know me.

From Adam, comments like yours are just BS.

PC out.My big mouth has a mind of it's own.

See how I am? As they say in AC.

Pardon me PC, you are right.

I'll be stomping around Burgos Street mid February. Get ready for some Manila trip x.
Salute!

Amavida
12-22-14, 07:16
Anyhow since you don't know me.

From Adam, comments like yours are just BS.

PC out.Just put the troll on your ignore list. ISG will be a better place for it.

AV.

Socker
12-22-14, 19:06
Just put the troll on your ignore list. ISG will be a better place for it.

AV.Thank you Chatty Cathy, coming from you it's a feather in my hat. Thankfully it's a two way street.

I'm not close to perfect but I am real. A well meaning human w / content, I make mistakes. Always learning and trying to be a better human.

Since I'm in the Manila Forum, some Burgos pics. I love the board, fellow mongers and the beautiful women we chase , the real ones.

Pantot
12-23-14, 02:13
Tungurahua's report did read like an old classic penthouse forum tale, with a Phils slant.

Hard to see why that simple observation became so controversial.

Does anyone take it literally?

Maybe the Penthouse Forum reference sailed over the heads of some?

What is the point of the bile directed at those who point out its fantastical elements. Nobody slammed the guy for posting it. We all got a kick out of it. Its creative writing obviously not meant to be taken literally.

This forum has a weird echo chamber of obsessive posters who deem themselves the only ones allowed to critique the posts of others.

Chill out self appointed Mandarins.

Amavida
12-23-14, 16:28
Tungurahua's report did read like an old classic penthouse forum tale, with a Phils slant.

Hard to see why that simple observation became so controversial.

Does anyone take it literally?

Maybe the Penthouse Forum reference sailed over the heads of some?

What is the point of the bile directed at those who point out its fantastical elements. Nobody slammed the guy for posting it. We all got a kick out of it. Its creative writing obviously not meant to be taken literally.

This forum has a weird echo chamber of obsessive posters who deem themselves the only ones allowed to critique the posts of others.

Chill out self appointed Mandarins.I have had similar experiences so I see nothing fantastic or fictional about it. The criticisms of his report I found very lame. When the critics descend into name calling I switch off.

AV.

Ikksman
12-23-14, 21:42
Tungurahua's report did read like an old classic penthouse forum tale, with a Phils slant.
Hard to see why that simple observation became so controversial.What "simple observation became so controversial" (in Tung's report)? And there were just 4 posters who were directly critical of Tung's post. And there is often criticism of this style of post (and not just in the PI forums). Controversial? Nah!


Does anyone take it literally?Probably some boys did and were hugely entertained by it. My guess is that most believed it to just be BS.


Maybe the Penthouse Forum reference sailed over the heads of some?Please do not be condescending!


What is the point of the bile directed at those who point out its fantastical elements. Nobody slammed the guy for posting it. We all got a kick out of it. Its creative writing obviously not meant to be taken literally.The seemingly obvious point would be to attempt to discourage similar postings in the future. I think "bile" is an exaggeration!

"We all got a kick out of it"? I very much doubt it! I certainly did not! Talk about self-appointed Mandarins!

The "creative writing" was, in my opinion, very childish and certainly lacked any sort of appeal to me.


This forum has a weird echo chamber of obsessive posters who deem themselves the only ones allowed to critique the posts of others.I admit that some long-time members here are a bit harsh on other newer posters (such as myself), but if you don't like it, there are other options apart from directing your bile at these members.


Chill out self appointed Mandarins. They are no more self-appointed Mandarins than you are!

Ikksman.

Ceegee
12-24-14, 09:38
Tungurahua's report was hilarious, I loved it. I have read his Indonesian reports and checked out his pictures, and I am quite sure he is legit.

Free2
12-24-14, 16:23
I read on another forum that there is the possibility for pickup of FL's at Padi's Point. It is a chain.

Does anybody else have experience on this?

WestCoast1
12-24-14, 23:03
I read on another forum that there is the possibility for pickup of FL's at Padi's Point. It is a chain.

Does anybody else have experience on this?Which PP? There is one in Malate / Ermita, near to Harrison's Plaza. Have been in several times. Rockin live band, but just lots of locals drinking / dancing. It did not appear to be a pickup place in any way. Others? Also visited the one in Calamba: Same.

Tungurahua
12-25-14, 12:33
Thursday, December 18. Wandering LA Cafe, 1am I notice a loner sitting against the window. Hmmm, potential. I can see she is older, not a youthful beauty but not ugly either. She introduces herself, Jeanette, 34. We talk, get along well, she likes rock music (real rock music, not ballads). She is perceptive too, noticing things about me others do not. After 1.5 hours the only variable I need to ask is: do you kiss? Yes. That's the clincher, what I need to make it personal. I offer 1000 pesos, 2 hours. No hesitation: "Yes!"

Fast forward, in my apt. Delicious kissing. I go down on her, she opens up her legs and lets the tongue work. Young girls are often squeamish, not Jeanette. Within 15 minutes she cums 3 times. Even I am impressed.

Over the next two hours, throw in a couple breaks, we lose count of her orgasms. I estimate 10-12. I've only experienced one lady like this of an estimated 300+ women in my life. A triple-hole Ecuadorian who popped off orgasms every five minutes. To this day I fondly remember her.

Midway Jean is astonished I have not cum yet, that I want more. She laughs: "my pussy wants more, my (shaking) legs do not, my mind is exhausted." Shortly after I notice white bed sheets soaked in blood. She goes to wash, starts dressing, afraid I am offended. Huh? Blood is natural, I could care less, let's fuck honey.

I love it when girls announce approaching orgasms, then I can tailor the rhythm and speed. Ramp it up to climax, bring it down as she convulses, shakes, shivers, gasps. Then slowly raise the tempo again.

Round four, the cock plunges in, she orgasms in minutes. To bed edge, love her face as she's cums. She's almost dead, time to satisfy myself. Flatdog. I'm bouncing on the bed like a jackrabbit, drilling her pussy in wild abandon, her face is on a dried pool of splattered blood -- an odd but fucking awesome visual. She's gasping for breath with each forceful thrust. I ask "is it okay if I cum inside (due to your period)?" She groans exhausted "I don't care!!" Blasted a load into her soul. Wind down, delicious strokes as the cock throbs.

"This is a mix of business and pleasure," she gushes while dressing. Give her 1000 pesos, no tip, no complaints. Bought her breakfast, kiss goodbye. A great session. I needed a pick-me-up, a home run. I found one.

Friday, December 19. Pool games with young hottie Jane. Two says prior I fucked her friend Kathy; at the time Jane was too reserved. She is starting to open up now, touching me. Nice. A future seed.

Wasted an hour talking with Sheila, a strange jerky-motion girl. At first I think she is drunk. An hour listening to her vent about an ex-bf, couldn't convince myself to invest. I suspect she is ongoing drug user.

Found sex-goddess Gem 2:30am, hit club Exklusiv for dancing, followed by two hours of crying. She initiated our 'friends with benefits' yet she is jealous seeing me with other girls, hates herself for feeling this way, doesn't understand why. I know why: through brilliant sex we've touched one another on a deeper level. Drifted into sleep, a few hours later we are making out in a dreamlike fog. I fuck to exhaustion via a dozen positions.

Saturday & Sunday, December 20-21. Days with Gem, disco Exklusiv (she loves this place), hanging out with a couple, dirty dancing. Return home Gem is so excited from dancing she is bouncing around on my dick like it's a jungle gym. She's my little cock monkey. I whisper enticements into her ear as I fuck her: "I love fucking your little pussy" and "Gem is my girl, my girl, I love fucking my girl." In the heat of the moment I almost believe it myself. After sex she bounces out of bed, faces Manila via the window and exclaims "I came four times!" That's my girl.

Monday, December 22. LA Cafe, Sheena, 24 years young, a tiny hottie, maybe 85 pounds, I saw Friday in GPoint. An air-conditioner ensures she snuggles to me. Do you kiss? Yes. Offered 1500 for 2 hours. Agreed.

Session starts great, open mouth kisses with tongue. I go down on her, she's musky, wet, seemingly liking it, yet I'm not entirely convinced. Still, what a great little body. The cock slides in. In 15 minutes she's pleading with me to cum. Usual assortment of positions. By 45 minutes she is clearly uncomfortable, I sigh, decide to have mercy on her. Flatdog visual, what a fantastic small body and gorgeous ass. Started out nice and fizzled. Not a GFE but memorable for her size.

Tuesday, December 23. I meet two girls, one 19 year old hottie with an older fugly. They are insistent on a 3some, refuse to go single as the hottie is not comfortable going it alone. I've never done a 3some, probably never will. No sale. Repeat. Two girls, one 27, a slim looker, other a fugly, insisting on a 3some, the hottie uncomfortable going it alone. Forget it.

About midnight, as I share life experiences with a fellow just met, I notice a girl over his shoulder, she smiles. Hmm, not bad. 15 minutes later we are still smiling at one another. I learn later she is elbowing her friend, saying "Look, he is smiling at me. He is gorgeous." Her friend responds "Get real. We're here to make money, remember?"

I catch the pair of girls as they are leaving for the night. Dom, 27 years young, half Spanish, half Filipina. We talk for a long time, she impresses me, well spoken. This one is different. Do you kiss? Yes. I offer 1500 pesos, 2 hours. Agreed. Give her friend 125 pesos to go home (good riddance).

In my apt we drink and talk for another 2 hours. Moving to the bed she kisses with tongue. Perfect, I'm hard. Dom likes girls too, so I take to licking labia and clit with extra finesse. I get her worked up and, as planned, she accepts my unsheathed cock with zero resistance.

I do the entire session in super slow-motion, milking each movement and moment to maximize sensations. Loves her ears nibbled. The session is beautiful, but because we talked so long my drunken high has worn off, lack of an afternoon nap, I'm tiring, so I fuck to exhaustion without cumming. She orgasms once. Snuggling in embrace. "I hate you," she says with love in her eyes.

Post-coital. If there is one thing women love most about me it is my constant touching, caressing, acknowledging fingers. Dom struggles to go but cannot leave, craving touch, sleeps with me till 9 am. Not much time to recharge. Brief wash, I walk into the bedroom, she's lying on her tummy. Oh yes, look at the juicy ass.

I lie down on top, arms supporting my weight. Up pops her ass, down goes her hand to clit, into pussy goes the cock. Delicious, listening to her moan and watching my cock repeatedly sink between her ass cheeks into silky wet warmth. On purpose I delay orgasm, again find myself tiring quickly and fuck to exhaustion. Dom recounts the scoreboard: it's 3-0.

We laze till 2 pm, our naked bodies fit together so well. Both torn about parting ways. I joke "I would love to do this all day, but us eating one another does not provide much nutritional value." Laugh, dress, give her 1500 pesos, no tip, she is happy.

Wednesday, December 24. LA Cafe, for the first time the number of wieners out-number the number of women. Tour various dance clubs, GPoint, all slow. Back in LA, re-meet multi-orgasmic Jeanette, she balks at a second session, hopeful to meet a client that doesn't make her work so much (and pays her more money). Suit yourself. Left LA, outside selected cutie Joy, 19 years, 1500 pesos for 3 hours. I knew it was going to be a sub-standard session. No kissing, no passion, simply a hole for cash, complaining after 20 minutes. Blew a routine load, showed her the door. Just scraped through Dec 24.

Thursday, December 25. Weary of late nights, alcohol binges, hangovers, a lingering chest cold, air-con stuffing my sinuses, relentless hunting, I need a rest. Of the girls, the misses I can write off and forget, the hits make it too damned good to stop now. On that note, I will be in LA Cafe tonight searching for that special Christmas cumshot.

BrainDrain
12-25-14, 20:53
I read on another forum that there is the possibility for pickup of FL's at Padi's Point. It is a chain.

Does anybody else have experience on this?I will try PAdi's on my next trip. But in Phils, every place can be a pickup place, just be polite guy and things happen.

Slippery
12-25-14, 23:27
I will try PAdi's on my next trip. But in Phils, every place can be a pickup place, just be polite guy and things happen.The music is so deafeningly loud that it's impossible to have a conversation in there.

Random99
12-28-14, 20:37
Been visiting the casinos in Manila. I think I like Resort World the best as the dealers don't "ask" for tips (tipping the dealer is not allowed). Decent eye candy with the dealers, but the mix is at least 50-50 male to female dealers.

Solaire's mix of female to male dealer is better. Hyatt is downright awful although it's probably the casino I visit the most (out of convenience). Has dim lights, dingy feel and zero eye candy. Hate when dealers "beg" for tips there.

Nite_Runner
01-01-15, 00:25
Fellow Mongers,

I need a bit of local help. I'm an avid AL fan and I'm trying to find a venue to watch the AL-OSU Game that kicks off on Friday, 2 Jan at 0930 local. I've looked online without much success, so I'm now posing the question to the forum for any advice. I can't be the only AMCIT in Manila looking to watch college football. My last report is to go to LA Café and ask them to channel surf for me as I can't imagine that much interest in sports at that hour.

All assistance is appreciated.

N_R.

Wicked Roger
01-01-15, 01:41
Fellow Mongers,

I need a bit of local help. I'm an avid AL fan and I'm trying to find a venue to watch the AL-OSU Game that kicks off on Friday, 2 Jan at 0930 local. I've looked online without much success, so I'm now posing the question to the forum for any advice. I can't be the only AMCIT in Manila looking to watch college football. My last report is to go to LA Caf and ask them to channel surf for me as I can't imagine that much interest in sports at that hour.

All assistance is appreciated.

NRTry Team Insider (Tune hotel), Howzat (Kalayaan Avenue) or Handlebar (Polaris Street) in Burgos. Heckle & Jekyll maybe but in the first 2 venues I have seen college football on the TVs (in TI if quiet maybe you could ask the girls to find it).

But I can believe you are one of a few who like college football LOL (being a rugby football man myself) - no comments please gents!

Red Kilt
01-02-15, 06:27
If you have never endured the shock and awe that is Manila on New Year at midnight, then check this out.

http://viralityfacts.com/places/fireworks-light-up-manila-city-to-welcome-the-new-year/

Remember this is from the business district where there are mostly office buildings so it is quieter than other areas.

It is deafening the further away from Makati you go.

GoodEnough
01-02-15, 07:10
If you have never endured the shock and awe that is Manila on New Year at midnight, then check this out.

http://viralityfacts.com/places/fireworks-light-up-manila-city-to-welcome-the-new-year/

Remember this is from the business district where there are mostly office buildings so it is quieter than other areas.

It is deafening the further away from Makati you go.Thanks RK. We were at a party on the terrace of a Makati Hotel, and the shock and awe began at maybe 10:30, building sporadically until midnight when the entire sky exploded, echoing from the horizon up to central Makati. We could see as far as Pasay, and the noise plus the visuals were spectacular. I agree with whoever wrote the blog. Manila has to be a major contender for the fireworks capital of the universe.

GE.

D Cups
01-02-15, 14:12
If you have never endured the shock and awe that is Manila on New Year at midnight, then check this out.

http://viralityfacts.com/places/fireworks-light-up-manila-city-to-welcome-the-new-year/

Remember this is from the business district where there are mostly office buildings so it is quieter than other areas.

It is deafening the further away from Makati you go.Spectacular! Thanks and Happy New Year, RK!

JPF
01-03-15, 04:43
I was very impressed by the fireworks display at New Years.

However there is a toll to pay: as of Jan. 3 the current stats:

1 dead and 30 injured from stray bullets.

45 fire incidents (mostly from fireworks).

Hundreds of injuries (including amputations) from firecrackers.

There was even a duel (resulting in a death) after one person was upset because he thought the other threw a firecracker too close to him.

Tungurahua
01-05-15, 14:03
Thursday, December 25. A beer in LA Cafe, slim pickings, on the street I talk to a new slender hottie, pretty face, wants 2000. "I give great service," she says without emotion or eye contact. Yeah, at the moment my pillow is more enticing than this vacuous hottie. An early night.

Friday & Saturday, December 26-27. Walk from Ermita to Mall of Asia and Baclaran. At night I pop my head into bars, one being Hussy's. The waitresses want me to stay, I say I need to eat, one flirty replies "you can eat me, sir." They all giggle. In LA Cafe I find Dom, 27 years, round two, for zero pesos. Can't argue with the price.

She leaves 24 hours later, the orgasm score is 4-3 in her favor. It's great lying around with her; our bodies fit together like interlocking legos. Her pussy is the most aerodynamic, streamlined, airtight creation I've seen, a single unbroken slit from top to bottom.

I blow two loads in flat-doggie (the sacred position), the second one I shoot cum across her back, into her hair and onto the headboard. Those little dudes were inspired. Her fourth O is memorable. As I slip the cock in/out of her I keep my thumb lubricated with spit to massage her clit. She takes over and flies away; a lovely O face.

I offer cash at the end, just to make sure. She declines, came here for enjoyment, not money. In turn I decline an invitation to her apartment for New Years Eve. As we depart she says "See you in my dreams."

Sunday & Monday, December 28-29. LA Cafe, remeet Gem and we shack up for another two days in my apt, drinking & fucking. This is our third time doing so. She starts telling me her background, family life, Manila, etc. The sex is great but the constant "I love you's" make me weary. I give her 500 pesos for a taxi home.

Tuesday, December 30. One of the most spectacular sexings of my life. My first session with Jeanette was Dec 18. Her multi-orgasmic ability left me wanting more. My second session with her has raised the bar so high it is fucking depressing to return to normal girls.

From 10:45 pm to 11:58 pm, 73 minutes, she has 16 orgasms. Break 47 minutes. From 12:45 am to 1:26 am, 41 minutes, she has 13 more orgasms. 29 total. I verify with her, she replies laughing "something like that." Says she lost count about 13/29. I held off 5 or 6 times from cumming in the first session; then I fucked to exhaustion because just watching her is far more fascinating than my little spurt of pleasure.

I ask if she cums with every guy like this. No, she has to be turned on by the guy, he can't cum too fast, etc. She was married 7 years to a guy (deceased), but he only made her cum once every sexing. (me: "what?!!") For 3.25 hours paid her 1100 pesos ($25 usd) for one of the most amazing fucks of my life.

She has this crazy nerd humor, spouting off the most ridiculous things, jokes, tidbits, offbeat funnies. One of the quotes she says is an islander slogan "It's ok if I'm lazy, at least I'm not tired." She's a total geek. If only I could put Jeanette in a box to carry around for the rest of my life to fuck at whim.

Wednesday, December 31. Hit Roxas blvd for fireworks and countdown, dance clubs throbbing, LA Cafe till 5 am. The funniest event of the night is a girl offering to pay, take me home and fuck me. Her friend is busting her guts laughing. Two guys sitting with me, one jealous, then start planning to wh*re me to the girls of LA Cafe, starting price 2000 pesos, whereby they split 45-45 and I get 10%.

Thursday, January 1. Visit a dozen bars along Burgos street in Makati. Quoted 2600-3900 barfine fees, with payment to girl on top. No thanks. I thought Kojax bar the nicest, with prettiest (and happiest) girls. Midget boxing in another bar. The one benefit to girls stage dancing in tiny clothes is being able to see their bodies: flat tummies, free of baby belly. A couple of the ladyboys in Mixed Nuts are pretty hot; I exit quickly lest their stares of longing turn into pleas of "be my boyfriend, sir!"

LA Cafe, Jeanette, round three. First girl ever I voluntarily raise the price to sex. Paid 1500 pesos for 7 hours. We don't count orgasms this round. What I remember most are the double orgasms. She will be having one orgasm, so I quicken the pace even faster, harder and deeper, which causes her to cum again within 10-15 seconds. O-M-G. It tires me quicker but to see the visual is worth it. Sleep a couple hours. She wakes me up, jacks me stiff and lying on her side puts the cock into pussy. Reposition to flatdog, rippling her ass as I thrust, "cum inside my pussy!" and I do.

Friday, Saturday & Sunday, January 2-3-4. Gem & I team up yet again, our fourth sexfest, for Exklusiv dancing, drinking, fucking. Most of the hotties in LA Cafe are so business-like, it's almost impossible to pull a hotter and friendlier girl than Gem (for free). I go with the flow, she fucks my dick raw, when I get tired of the unceasing "I love you's" I give her 500 pesos for a taxi for departure, she cries briefly, then her eyes light up when I say "See you later." Friday night she gets really drunk, blacks out, she tells me things; Saturday I astonish her with what I know.

Monday, January 5. A note to Fellow ISG'ers. To members who like my reports, thank you Key Master, Free2, Redman69, WestCoast1, JoeMailde, Econo Tech, Pcpc1688, Amavida, Ceegee. I like to keep my non-story posts to a minimum, thereby insuring quality contributions without dilution. I've spent years trying to write better stories, capturing the unique elements of each interaction to keep things fresh while discarding mundane details.

For those who question my experiences I can understand why. Prior to the Philippines I used to post pictures to back up the stories. Over the years I am shying away from this. Senior members know, it's the same story: fickle finks tell girls of their pics on ISG. Though many of them are their own worst enemies, these girls have it hard enough. I don't want to ruin their lives exposing them to families & friends.

Without pictures the experiences I live are no longer backed up by visual representations to drive the text home. So we get what we have here: some disbelief. This is unfortunate. My past ISG posts had abundant pictures. At one time I really put out. What am I to do? I am damned if I post pictures, damned if I don't.

For the disbelievers here are examples of my past ISG reports, some photographs attached. Perhaps it will help bridge the disbelief. If not, there isn't much I can do going forward. I write it as I live it. That said, I monger on!

Ecuador
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1691-Photo-Gallery&p=508800#post508800
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2033-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=508771&viewfull=1#post508771
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2033-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=737847&viewfull=1#post737847

Brazil
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2008-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=636288&viewfull=1#post636288

Colombia
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2016-Links-to-Reports-of-Distinction&p=789801&viewfull=1#post789801

FreebieFan
01-06-15, 01:42
I was very impressed by the fireworks display at New Years.

However there is a toll to pay: as of Jan. 3 the current stats:

1 dead and 30 injured from stray bullets.

45 fire incidents (mostly from fireworks).

Hundreds of injuries (including amputations) from firecrackers.

There was even a duel (resulting in a death) after one person was upset because he thought the other threw a firecracker too close to him.In years gone by the death toll was much much higher. Including those hit by stray bullets fired by the police!

JPF
01-07-15, 04:37
In years gone by the death toll was much much higher. Including those hit by stray bullets fired by the police!FF is right, the current total injury toll from fireworks this year is 860 down from 1080 last year. Either way it doesn't diminish the potential danger on New Year's Eve.

Free2
01-07-15, 08:03
Walk from Ermita to Mall of Asia and Baclaran.You walked it?! How long did that take? Never thought of doing that, but probable an entertaining way to pass an hour or so. The way the trappic is so bad along Roxas, probably not much longer.


Saturday I astonish her with what I know.Now we are all curious.


A note to Fellow ISG'ers. To members who like my reports, thank you Key Master, Free2, Redman69, WestCoast1, JoeMailde, Econo Tech, Pcpc1688, Amavida, Ceegee. OMG, I feel so good that maybe some of my posts have helped someone else. Seriously, thanks for that man.

Wicked Roger
01-08-15, 10:26
FF is right, the current total injury toll from fireworks this year is 860 down from 1080 last year. Either way it doesn't diminish the potential danger on New Year's Eve.But the amputations have increased from last so really not much to be happy about. That and the indiscriminate firing of bullets that killed a girl and other injuries makes New Year a safe place if seen from a hotel. Otherwise avoid IMHO.

BrainDrain
01-10-15, 10:56
I found myself domiciled in Ortigas for a few days of work close to SM Mall. I had a few numbers already lined up and juggled these.

Night 1. A girl whom had made friends with me on FB. We had a limited number of messages, she was quite young (21) and quite pretty. Her FB pics didn't quite display her acne as well as in real life. Anyway, the lights can be turned off. She was quite shy. Only managed a limited BJ and a single pop. She stayed the night but I suggested she leave at 6 am. P1000.

Night 2. Had an initial dinner with a random catch up from a girl from the same arrival flight as me. Incredibly engaging dinner conversation but too straight for me. She is well connected in government circles and I was a little worried about making a wrong move. Hugged and said goodnight. On the way out I texted a Tagged contact whom apparently really was out on her birthday bash and I had promised to let her get drunk on my Tanduay. She had a little bit of a head start before she arrived. Quite pretty and slip. Nice heels on display and watch a few movies togther. 35 years old. She was great in the bed and really let her initial shyness disappear once the lights went out. Stayed for the night, night and morning boom booms, She is a professional lady so wouldn't accept any contribution other than her birthday present of a block of chocolate.

Night 3. Late night date with a lady whom finished her office work at 8 pm. She arrived with a friend. The friend left once they were satisifed I was OK. Good dinner conversation at TGI Fridays. Lots of flirting and departed with a "next time" hug. Home alone. I was happy with the break, having been in the Philippines now for 6 nights of fun filled action. I was happy with a promise for a future visit.

Now off to AC.

Red Kilt
01-11-15, 03:47
I found myself domiciled in Ortigas for a few days of work close to SM Mall. I had a few numbers already lined up and juggled these.

Where did you stay in Ortigas BD?

I assume you meant you stayed close to SM Megamall?

Did you meet the girl in TGIF in Robinson's Galleria?

I was going to PM you but perhaps your answers might be of interest to others here.

BrainDrain
01-11-15, 09:13
Where did you stay in Ortigas BD?

I assume you meant you stayed close to SM Megamall?

Did you meet the girl in TGIF in Robinson's Galleria?

I was going to PM you but perhaps your answers might be of interest to others here.I stayed at Oakwood Premier in a suite. It is well recommended and was on the company account at about P7000 per night including breakfast. I would / will stay there again. Staff were well trained and venue was good for corporate visitors.

TGIF Robinsons was easy to find and she knew where it was (close to entrance.).

Also I dropped by St Francis mall which was OK for cheap buys, knock offs and iphone repairs.

Free2
01-13-15, 01:12
I stayed at Oakwood Premier in a suite. It is well recommended and was on the company account at about P7000 per night including breakfast. I would / will stay there again. Staff were well trained and venue was good for corporate visitors.

TGIF Robinsons was easy to find and she knew where it was (close to entrance.).

Also I dropped by St Francis mall which was OK for cheap buys, knock offs and iphone repairs.7000 php / night! OMG, I have never in my life spent that to sleep on a mattress!

LOLWTFBBGirl
01-13-15, 01:33
Anyone used Manila Courtesans?

Do the girls offer BBFS or is it all covered?

Aimless
01-13-15, 12:22
Ordeal Report.

I like writing trip reports, but its been many years since I wrote one. Reason being, I got a case of laziness while finishing up my divorce which led me to settling down as you will see.

I was in the Phils about 4 years ago. I hate Manila traffic and lack of security, so on advice from GE, I spent quite a bit of time in Davao and Cebu while meeting some really cute ladies 18-26 on FC and DIA. I'm mid 50's, but somehow still get a fair amount of interest on FC from young girls even without sending "Hello," emails. I'm also not a pro-monger like many of you (dare to dream!) I like "dating" one or two girls at a time that are drop dead gorgeous and 100% GFE. I'm talking "honey, please come to the province and meet my family!" type GFE. The real deal, or the best act ever: you decide. I also get bored after awhile, even with a 9 or 10. Anyhow.

I had been hanging out in Cebu and Davao every few months with my new FC / DIA girlfriend (s), and trying to meet as many possible hot new prospects as well. My method was, using FC / DIA, to round up about 150 possible girls on YM with phone numbers, then when I got to the cities, I'd start texting to meet up. Cam is a great way to filter out the duds, but to me, face to face meeting is the best technique as amazing personalities can really be seen. Intelligent, articulate ladies are a real turn-on for me. I've met some amazing lookers that had the personality of an oak plank. A real monger would likely kick me off this board for that comment, but I do like that "connection" that can only occur with a smart girl with a sparkling personality. It keeps my little head and big head in the game which is quite a feat at my age. With so many girls, I needed efficiency, so I texted them to meet at the local Starbucks about an hour apart. Even with 150 girls lined up, over the course of my two week stay, I was "only" able to meet about 40 girls. The initial meeting was always over coffee. That gave them a little treat, was cheap for me, and I could graciously bounce after ten minutes if I wasn't interested. I did that a lot as I'm ridiculously picky. My target has to look healthy, with pretty teeth, nice hair, a little make up, decent clothes, and appear psychologically stable (does this exist in females?) Most of the young girls did not make the grade; usually because their teeth were all f**the up or they had bad breath or just didn't look very healthy. Even so, about 8 REALLY stood out, with sparkling personalities, adorable faces and hot bodies. Of these top 8, several just didn't seem all that interested in me, so I didn't push it, and abandoned them. (I hate doing all the work / chasing). 3 seemed very interested. I even banged one of them on the second night (no big deal for you Pros, but its a big deal for me). I think I may have actually banged two of them pretty quickly, but I forget. Thing is, there was one Pretty Little Liar. Oh my, what trouble!

The Liar was age 23, and said she was in Cebu going to school. Her pic was cute, but she looked chubby. I don't like fat chicks, so was going to make her a miss, but every time I signed on to YM, there she was chatting me up before I arrived in the Phils, so she really ended up endearing herself to me over time prior to arrival. Then on arrival, she said she was visiting family for the holidays in the province, but would take the bus to come see me. Ten hours bus ride! As my previously outlined strategy was to meet for a 5 minute coffee and then kick most of the girls to the curb, I just could NOT bear the thought of this sweet pinay taking a grueling 10 hour bus ride, only for me to say "cya" after 5 minutes, so I declined to meet. She acted very sad. I went about my daily dating and carousing, and was getting ready to leave the Phils after my two week stay, when the Liar comes on YM and says: "I hope you won't' be mad at me, but I didn't tell you the truth". I said "please fill me in". She proceeded to tell me that she hadn't been to Cebu in many years and that she lived in her province. This really pissed me off, at myself, because I felt I had been really good at filtering out any girls that were not actually in Cebu or Davao, as I hate wasting my time with girls that can't readily meet on arrival. Then she dropped the bomb, saying: "Oh, I was married to an American, now divorced, and I have a US residency card. " OMG! I had to meet this girl! The thought of having my very own pinay girl-toy without coming to the Phils was amazingly enticing! As you all know, no cute little monger-bait like this from a third world country would ever be allowed in the US without a fiance visa, unless she owns property and has a fat bank account (or a parent living in the US), which Liar did not. She said she was planning on flying to Manila, on her way to visit a distant relative in the USA, the next day, which just so happened to be the same day as I was flying to manila too! I was ecstatic as we made plans to meet at the airport.

The next day, I flew from Davao to Manila and waited for her text. Nothing. I went online. No Pretty Little Liar. Hmm. I had no options, so I caught my flight back to the states and resumed my sordid life in the sex prison that is the USA. 2 weeks went by. Then I got a missed call from the same area code as Liar's relative. Could it be? I called the phone number in my phone. Liar answered! She had made it to the USA and wanted to meet, but she was 2000 miles away from me! SIGH. What to do? I offered to buy her an airline ticket to come meet me. No go. She was too shy and scared, but wanted me to come see her. Ugh, I made strict rules to never do something like this. I kicked myself for not making her come to Davao to meet me when I had had the opportunity. Obviously nice guys finish last. I was now making plans to go fly across the USA to meet a girl for coffee and probably dump her in 5 minutes. What an expensive waste of time and money. I couldn't stop myself though as the curiosity of what she was really like was killing me. I made arrangements, and got on YM. She said:"When are you coming to see me?" I replied, "Next week". Now it was her turn to be excited and curious.

I boarded the plane and flew very far away to a small hick town with a surprisingly nice airport. I had switched planes previously at a large central airport, and landed at almost midnight in Hicktown USA. The 5 other passengers on the plane, disembarked, got in their cars next to the terminal, and left. The two airport staff members locked the terminal door, leaving me standing alone, outside, in the cold, under a street light, in the middle of nowhere. I texted Liar "I'm here!" She texted back "OK, my family and I are coming to get you!" GULP! The family?! I was hoping she would take a cab, but no. I get to meet the family, but what if Liar is a fat ugly hag? Where is my exit? I was in a serious jam. I thought about praying but figured God would punish me if I did. So I waited, nervously, alone, in the dark, without another soul in sight, under my streetlight. I felt like I was in a horror movie. All I needed was creepy music.

After about twenty minutes, off in the distance, I could see a pair of headlights slowly navigating its way down the long road that leads up to the airport. My heart was pounding. A car pulled up opposite me and stopped. A young, slim, ravishingly gorgeous young lady got out of the car, with a big beautiful sexy smile and long flowing black hair, wearing tight white jeans, black heels and a short gossamer top flowing in the breeze. It was Liar! She gave me a hug and I melted. She was a "dime", 10/10, one of the most beautiful girls I'd ever seen, straight out of a magazine. I could see in her eyes that she was not disappointed either. Lucky me as I'm no stranger to getting passed on. I got to savor this moment for literally 5 seconds as her American family friend (the driver) came around the car to eye me up and down, while Liar disappeared into the back seat of the car and out of view. "American Friend" was my age but much bigger than I am (I'm not tall at all). He looked like a cop. He requested that I sit in the front seat with him. I didn't argue. He asked what hotel I was staying at. I told him, and we set off driving. On our way to the hotel, American Friend and cousins in the back seat politely, but sternly grilled me on my background, job, intentions, etc. I could see that the American Friend wasn't happy I was getting Pretty Little Liar. He wanted her; that was obvious. Then we arrived at my hotel. Thank God!

I got out of the car. American friend eyed me up and down one last time, helped unload my luggage, and shook my hand. Liar got out of the car, grabbed her bag and stood there, next to me, looking as beautiful as ever, while we watched her family and American friend drive off. I was stunned. I really didn't know how this was going to play out, but I really did not expect Liar to stay with me like this. Needless to say I did not complain. I checked into the hotel, at which point Liar and I went into our room. It was very Spartan with one bed (YES!) It didn't seem to bother Liar at all as she was still all smiles, but acted the little shy pinay, as so many of them do. I tried to strike up a conversation, but all she said was "wait, I need to shower". SIGH! Again, she disappeared. Half an hour later she came out without makeup and just wearing some cute shorts and a tight T-shirt. She was still adorable, and still smiling like a little flirt. She turned on the TV at the foot of the bed, and laid down, on her back, on the bed. I laid down next to her, very close, lightly touching. She gave me a cute little smirk and pulled away about 3 inches. I thought "Oh really? I play this game better than anyone!" I moved as far away from her as possible on the bed, and pretended to watch TV and ignore her. Out of the corner of my eye I could see her throw me a cute little pout. Then she cracked a big grin, rolled over next to me, and (I kid you not!) said "Want to have sex?" Guess what I said? (and did) ha! Jackpot!

We spent the week like that, waking up late, banging a few times per day, getting to know each other, eating out, and otherwise doing nothing in particular. What a honeymoon it was! It turned out that her family in the Phils had basically thrown her out, which meant back to the USA to preserve her residency privileges. One family's trash is another man's treasure, right? This was too good to be true, so I invited her home with me. She accepted, flew back with me, and we've been together for 4 years now.

She is a good person, and we rarely fight. She accepts the fact that, after my multiple marriages, I'll never marry again, and I don't want any more kids. She thinks of herself as a "gold digger," if you want to consider her polite requests for $3 lotion at Walmart as gold digging. I don't mind at all. She asks for a lot of little things, all inexpensive, and she is always polite. She always dresses to the 9's, is totally hot, and looks about 15 like most pinays her real age of 27. I love seeing the expressions of the guys and gals my age at the market, looking at us, as we walk along the aisles, and Liar hangs all over me. I can see the guys thinking "where the F** did I go wrong in my life?" While all their wives are looking at me thinking: "dirty old creep!" I can't help but smile all time. Unfortunately, all good things come to an end, and I have to dump my Pretty Little Liar.

I'm bored. While she does a fair job keeping the house clean, sometimes cooks, and always looks hot, the sex is just. Yawn. Either I'm unattractive to her or she just doesn't like sex that much or both. She is so affectionate, but it stops there as there is just no passion in the sex. There really never was. It was just. sex. I don't even really enjoy the sex anymore. Its always the same routine: About once a week she'll come up to me, grab my cock and say "lets have sex". There is always a little doggy, a little mish, she moans and wiggles a little, I'm not sure she O's or not. She says she does, but I don't believe it. There is a little kissing, but no passionate DFK. I feel as if she might be doing it just to make me happy. I miss the pinays that demand cock, and seem to totally love sex while screaming and moan "I love you" at the top of their lungs even though you met them two hours ago. Fake or not, that level of passion makes me perform and enjoy! I don't get any of this with Liar, so my life doesn't have any meaning anymore. This needs to change.

When Liar comes home next month (she's on vacay with friends texting every 5 minutes how much she loves and misses me), I'm going to sit down, and explain that she needs a real life, a real husband, and a real family, because that will make her happy, but I can't give that to her. I will also tell her that I'm not happy and need to move on. I guess all good things do need to come to an end, but I'm ready for the next level. I want to be more of a monger!

So, here are a couple questions for you Pros:

1) I like really hot girls with real GFE (lets call her Miss 10 GFE). Do you guys think I can go to Burgos or EDSA and find a really hot provider that will give real GFE? Or do they all know they're hot and feel like they don't need to perform?

2) I'm only going for about two weeks or so, and would like to have just one really amazing girl for the week, LT every night. I'm willing to pay what you guys have outlined as typical Burgos / EDSA barfines, but is there some way that after the first night I can avoid barfining her every night? I don't mind richly rewarding Miss 10 GFE, but I don't want to waste it on the bar if I don't have to.

3) Any other strategies to find Miss 10 GFE are greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I only barfined a girl once in Thailand 15 years ago, and then stayed with her for the week, so I'm a noob at this. All the rest have been DIA / FC girls introducing me to the family.

Cheers!

Aimless

BrainDrain
01-14-15, 00:37
7000 php / night! OMG, I have never in my life spent that to sleep on a mattress!Oh, sorry to hear that. Hope things improve for you soon.

OldJedi
01-14-15, 01:49
... and appear psychologically stable (does this exist in females?) ...Haha, no never!

VicVeg
01-14-15, 02:14
Anyone used Manila Courtesans?

Do the girls offer BBFS or is it all covered?It is all covered. But if you grease the skids with more peso, they might flex. Overall I was NOT happy with the quality of the girls. You are better going to Havana or LA Cafe as you get to check the girls out first. You don't know what you are getting from escorts until they arrive. They are often fatter than pics else smoke, else dirty etc. Never felt they were clean or top quality girls.

OldJedi
01-14-15, 03:07
So, here are a couple questions for you Pros:

1) I like really hot girls with real GFE (lets call her Miss 10 GFE). Do you guys think I can go to Burgos or EDSA and find a really hot provider that will give real GFE? Or do they all know they're hot and feel like they don't need to perform?

2) I'm only going for about two weeks or so, and would like to have just one really amazing girl for the week, LT every night. I'm willing to pay what you guys have outlined as typical Burgos / EDSA barfines, but is there some way that after the first night I can avoid barfining her every night? I don't mind richly rewarding Miss 10 GFE, but I don't want to waste it on the bar if I don't have to.

3) Any other strategies to find Miss 10 GFE are greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I only barfined a girl once in Thailand 15 years ago, and then stayed with her for the week, so I'm a noob at this. All the rest have been DIA / FC girls introducing me to the family.

Cheers!

AimlessFirst of all, thank you for your report.

There are 10's GFE (although the definition of 10 is quite individual).

IMHO Burgos or EDSA are more a pro areas, but hey, it's the Philippines, should be possible to find a 'Miss 10 GFE".

They all like to introducing you to their family, grabbing a 'rich' foreigner is the jackpot! They do and told everthing to not miss the chance.

Don't miss the good old Ermita area, if you did not sit in LA-Cafe for a couple of hours, you really miss some very interesting experiences.

Not as exciting as 20 years ago, but definitely worth seeing.

But I personally think dating sites are more promising for real GFE's.

Happy hunting!

Pantot
01-14-15, 03:38
Ordeal Report.One question Aimless.

Not to defend your lady but why after 3 years is she still Liar to you? All her lies were revealed and dealt with in the first week of actually meeting her in person, then, knowing that you bought the merchandise. Now its 3 years later and she hasn't been milking you like a cow, in. Be thankful her family disowned her or they will be collectively badgering you by proxy for money through her -life could be much worse. A pinay orphan is a blessing in disguise unless you have a license to print currency, be thankful at least. Also she didn't balloon up to porker size on a western diet. You avoided all the pitfalls so maybe its not her.

I think you are just realizing that monogamy is boring as hell, pinay or whoever. Wild exciting domesticated home country sex with a live in wife / GF whatever you call her does not exist for any regular poster on this board for the long term otherwise we wouldn't be going to the Phils.

If you think you can go back there and find something better long term to bring back home, well you hit the Three 7's and are not happy so maybe you should consider adjusting your expectations.

That's my opinion as someone who never actually tried monogamy because I knew it wasn't for me.

FreebieFan
01-14-15, 03:50
Ordeal Report.

I like writing trip reports, but its been many years since I wrote one. Reason being, I got a case of laziness while finishing up my divorce which led me to settling down as you will see.

I. Thing is, there was one Pretty Little Liar. Oh my, what trouble!



Cheers!

AimlessFabulous story. We all pretend to be wonderful mongers here, and possibly some are true to their word, but I think for many of us we also make interesting errors from time to time, that we probably don't report. Congrats on a great report and a good dose of reality and honesty!

KongKing
01-14-15, 05:13
I also get bored after awhile, even with a 9 or 10.Monogamy breeds monotony.


Intelligent, articulate ladies are a real turn-on for me. ........ I do like that "connection" that can only occur with a smart girl with a sparkling personality.So you want to give this up for a few weeks of Burgos mongering?


Even with 150 girls lined up, over the course of my two week stay, I was "only" able to meet about 40 girls.And you say you are not a mongerer! Some (not me) like P4 P, find a girl in the bar or in the street, hit and run. Others of us like the fishing experience; casting through dating web sites, setting the right bait to get a strike, then playing, landing. Sometimes it is catch and release, sometimes it can be catch and keep. And sometimes it is catch, keep, but still do more fishing-mongering.


"Oh, I was married to an American, now divorced, and I have a US residency card. " OMG! I had to meet this girl! The thought of having my very own pinay girl-toy without coming to the Phils was amazingly enticing! So you want to throw this away for a dalliance on Burgos Street?


Then she cracked a big grin, rolled over next to me, and (I kid you not!) said "Want to have sex?" Guess what I said? (and did) ha! Jackpot! You lucky man. It was worth the chase.


I invited her home with me. She accepted, flew back with me, and we've been together for 4 years now. She is a good person, and we rarely fight. She accepts the fact that, after my multiple marriages, I'll never marry again, and I don't want any more kids. Like a number of us, we have learnt that lesson and never to marry again -until some of us, not me, again succumb.


She always dresses to the 9's, is totally hot, and looks about 15 like most pinays her real age of 27. I love seeing the expressions of the guys and gals my age at the market, looking at us, as we walk along the aisles, and Liar hangs all over me. I can see the guys thinking "where the F** did I go wrong in my life?" While all their wives are looking at me thinking: "dirty old creep!" I can't help but smile all time. Lucky man!


I'm bored. While she does a fair job keeping the house clean, sometimes cooks, and always looks hot, the sex is just. Yawn. Either I'm unattractive to her or she just doesn't like sex that much or both. She is so affectionate, but it stops there as there is just no passion in the sex. There really never was. It was just. sex. I don't even really enjoy the sex anymore. Its always the same routine: About once a week she'll come up to me, grab my cock and say "lets have sex". There is always a little doggy, a little mish, she moans and wiggles a little, I'm not sure she O's or not. She says she does, but I don't believe it. There is a little kissing, but no passionate DFK. I feel as if she might be doing it just to make me happy.Yes it seems you are the problem. But do you really want to throw out your baby with the bathwater?


When Liar comes home next month (she's on vacay with friends texting every 5 minutes how much she loves and misses me), I'm going to sit down, and explain that she needs a real life, a real husband, and a real family, because that will make her happy, but I can't give that to her. I will also tell her that I'm not happy and need to move on. I guess all good things do need to come to an end, but I'm ready for the next level. I want to be more of a monger! So without throwing your baby out why don't you have your own vacations. Manila or anywhere, and come back to the stability of a hot young Filipina who loves you and keeps inviting you to have sex.


So, here are a couple questions for you Pros:
Gez, I have seen those questions addressed time and time again in the Manila and Makati forums.

RTFF.

Are you for real?

Red Kilt
01-14-15, 05:34
So, here are a couple questions for you Pros:

1) I like really hot girls with real GFE (lets call her Miss 10 GFE). Do you guys think I can go to Burgos or EDSA and find a really hot provider that will give real GFE? Or do they all know they're hot and feel like they don't need to perform?

2) I'm only going for about two weeks or so, and would like to have just one really amazing girl for the week, LT every night. I'm willing to pay what you guys have outlined as typical Burgos / EDSA barfines, but is there some way that after the first night I can avoid barfining her every night? I don't mind richly rewarding Miss 10 GFE, but I don't want to waste it on the bar if I don't have to.

3) Any other strategies to find Miss 10 GFE are greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I only barfined a girl once in Thailand 15 years ago, and then stayed with her for the week, so I'm a noob at this. All the rest have been DIA / FC girls introducing me to the family.
You have already answered your own questions in your long meandering narrative, because you have highlighted the hoary old Forrest Gump chocolate box dilemma in that "you never know what you will get" and yet you seek what seems to be definitive answers.

I believe you ask questions for which there are no answers, so here's my take:

Q1. Maybe you will and maybe you won't.

Q2. Pass.

Q3. The number of strategies is endless. You have tried many of them before with what you call limited success because you are difficult to satisfy.

Work your way through those strategies you haven't tried, but you will need more than 2 weeks. Or maybe you will find what you want on the first night. Or the second. . . ?

GoodEnough
01-14-15, 05:44
Ordeal Report.

1) I like really hot girls with real GFE (lets call her Miss 10 GFE). Do you guys think I can go to Burgos or EDSA and find a really hot provider that will give real GFE? Or do they all know they're hot and feel like they don't need to perform?

2) I'm only going for about two weeks or so, and would like to have just one really amazing girl for the week, LT every night. I'm willing to pay what you guys have outlined as typical Burgos / EDSA barfines, but is there some way that after the first night I can avoid barfining her every night? I don't mind richly rewarding Miss 10 GFE, but I don't want to waste it on the bar if I don't have to.

3) Any other strategies to find Miss 10 GFE are greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I only barfined a girl once in Thailand 15 years ago, and then stayed with her for the week, so I'm a noob at this. All the rest have been DIA / FC girls introducing me to the family.
AimlessThat's one of the more entertaining and unusual reports I've read herein, and I'm sure it will elicit multiple responses. On the subject of continuing the relationship, it's my opinion that only you can decide what's right for you. If you're not getting the fulfillment you crave, and if you feel there's no chance in things improving, then I don't blame you for wanting out.

As to your first question about finding a "really hot provider that will give real GFE," my answer is a qualified yes. Given that assessments of beauty are strictly subjective, I can't state with any certainty that you will find someone who meets whatever your "10" criteria are. However, given the huge aggregate number of bars between Burgos and Edsa, and the hundreds of young women on display, I think the odds are in your favor. Finding someone who will provide GFE is close to a certainty; particularly if you explain that you're looking to remain with someone for a number of consecutive days. I think you'll also find that many girls will happily agree to remain absent from the bar for the duration of your relationship, and thus you will be able to avoid paying several nights of barfines. You might also want to consider befriending the mammasans in bars that appeal to you--buying them a drink is a good start--and then letting them introduce you to girls whom they think will meet your requirements.

Another strategy you might want to consider is expanding the pool of candidates by taking 2-3 days of your trip and going to Angeles, finding a SWT whose company you enjoy, and then bringing her back with you to Manila. You can always send her back toward the end of your trip as there are lots of buses.

The problem you may have is finding someone with whom you can have engaging, interesting conversations. For me, that represents the recurrent drawback of all of those places. Remember, you'll be meeting ladies who, for the most part, have limited educations, limited life experience beyond the bars and life in the provinces, limited intellectual interests, and often limited English language skills. I know all of us have different "fun" criteria, but for me, maintaining a semblance of interest in the usual bar girl drivel is virtually impossible at this stage of my life. I've got a few friends here who, during their intermittent visits, like to find (and) keep girls with them, and I often inquire what they do to pass the time once the sex is over and before it begins again. I've yet to receive an answer I can relate to.

GE.

Hutsori
01-14-15, 06:53
Ordeal Report.

Aimless, it's said the most important sex organ is the brain. Let your imagination and your fantasies run free. Sounds to me you have a near perfect woman who aims to make you happy, so have a talk with her about spicing things up. She may very well have a kink or twelve she wishes to explore. And if she is as gorgeous as you write I reckon there are plenty of swinger groups that would love for you to join them. Just a thought.

Aimless
01-14-15, 07:25
Aimless, it's said the most important sex organ is the brain. Let your imagination and your fantasies run free. Sounds to me you have a near perfect woman who aims to make you happy, so have a talk with her about spicing things up. She may very well have a kink or twelve that she wishes to explore. And if she is as gorgeous as you write I reckon there are plenty of swinger groups that would love for you to join them. Just a thought.You're right Hutsori, and I appreciate your input. While I'm not into the group or swap thing, I'm definitely going to sit down with her and see if we can work through this to mutual benefit, although I have explored her kinkiness limits, a little. She just isn't that into it.

Cheers,

Aimless

Redman69
01-14-15, 20:28
One question Aimless.

Not to defend your lady but why after 3 years is she still Liar to you? All her lies were revealed and dealt with in the first week of actually meeting her in person, then, knowing that you bought the merchandise. Now its 3 years later and she hasn't been milking you like a cow, in. Be thankful her family disowned her or they will be collectively badgering you by proxy for money through her -life could be much worse. A pinay orphan is a blessing in disguise unless you have a license to print currency, be thankful at least. Also she didn't balloon up to porker size on a western diet. You avoided all the pitfalls so maybe its not her.

I think you are just realizing that monogamy is boring as hell, pinay or whoever. Wild exciting domesticated home country sex with a live in wife / GF whatever you call her does not exist for any regular poster on this board for the long term otherwise we wouldn't be going to the Phils.

If you think you can go back there and find something better long term to bring back home, well you hit the Three 7's and are not happy so maybe you should consider adjusting your expectations.

That's my opinion as someone who never actually tried monogamy because I knew it wasn't for me.Got to say I agree with the above. You are just bored. That is marriage for men like us. Have you tried swinging? You said you are not into it. It is as close as you can get to mongering. With your girl you will settle for less but it will be new to you. I would go to thailand and not take her. Or even RP. Man you go it made with this. I would not push her out the door. How many men are still married to the girl they got prego? Shit enjoy it while it last. Just do what you want and go home to the live in free sex. I envy you!

Econo Tech
01-15-15, 03:05
Fabulous story. We all pretend to be wonderful mongers here, and possibly some are true to their word, but I think for many of us we also make interesting errors from time to time, that we probably don't report. Congrats on a great report and a good dose of reality and honesty!Do agree with you too.

Entertaining report by Aimless!

Golfinho
01-15-15, 07:29
The Pope scheduled to touch down 5 pm. What a mess trying to het a cab at the airport this afternoon. Four-day holiday is being declared, not everything closed, hopefully not any of the good things.

Mogwai
01-15-15, 08:45
I thought about praying but figured God would punish me if I did. So you are God fearing. I understand why Pinays love you, LOL!

Thanks for the wonderful story!

OldJedi
01-16-15, 01:09
The Pope scheduled to touch down 5 pm. What a mess trying to het a cab at the airport this afternoon. Four-day holiday is being declared, not everything closed, hopefully not any of the good things.LA Cafe yesterday. Things are pretty normal, not so much girls due transport trouble.

OldJedi
01-16-15, 07:08
Things going to go back to normal in Ermita. I see cars on Roxas, also Pedicaps and trike in the Rizal area.

Here a pic from P. Faura (G Point Bar is here) in front of Robinsons, pretty empty.

Wicked Roger
01-16-15, 10:45
The Pope scheduled to touch down 5 pm. What a mess trying to het a cab at the airport this afternoon. Four-day holiday is being declared, not everything closed, hopefully not any of the good things.Yep, lots of FRs on this all advising to avoid Manila if you can.

Red Kilt
01-16-15, 16:23
Things going to go back to normal in Ermita. I see cars on Roxas, also Pedicaps and trike in the Rizal area.

Here a pic from P. Faura (G Point Bar is here) in front of Robinsons, pretty empty.Things won't go back to "normal" until around Monday afternoon Joe.

The Pope is staying at the Apostolic Nunciature (the Vatican Mission) which is along Taft Avenue, so to get there he travels in a motorcade via Roxas Boulevard from the airport.

Even with his trip to Tacloban on Saturday he is still coming back to Manila to stay Saturday night so it will all be closed again.

Sunday there is predicted to be 6 million (yes. 6 million) people at the Quirino Granstand / Rizal Park area which means if I was anywhere near Pasay, Ermita or Malate I would be packing up and moving out.

Don't even think about getting taxis etc anywhere in that area on Sunday or planning to get to or from Malate to Makati.

Apart from all the roads being closed, how do you handle 6 million people in a few city blocks? (it's a rhetorical question; please don't answer).

D Cups
01-16-15, 16:37
Things won't go back to "normal" until around Monday afternoon Joe.

The Pope is staying at the Apostolic Nunciature (the Vatican Mission) which is along Taft Avenue, so to get there he travels in a motorcade via Roxas Boulevard from the airport.

Even with his trip to Tacloban on Saturday he is still coming back to Manila to stay Saturday night so it will all be closed again.

Sunday there is predicted to be 6 million (yes. 6 million) people at the Quirino Granstand / Rizal Park area which means if I was anywhere near Pasay, Ermita or Malate I would be packing up and moving out.

Don't even think about getting taxis etc anywhere in that area on Sunday or planning to get to or from Malate to Makati.

Apart from all the roads being closed, how do you handle 6 million people in a few city blocks? (it's a rhetorical question; please don't answer).Yikes. Hopefully there will be some horizontal stacking.

Radical Guy
01-16-15, 16:41
Yep, lots of FRs on this all advising to avoid Manila if you can.Damn, so Pope Frank will be able to cherry pick among all the hot talent, while we just wait for him to leave!

Cool Traveler
01-16-15, 22:15
"I'm bored. While she does a fair job keeping the house clean, sometimes cooks, and always looks hot, the sex is just. Yawn. Either I'm unattractive to her or she just doesn't like sex that much or both. She is so affectionate, but it stops there as there is just no passion in the sex. There really never was. It was just. Sex. I don't even really enjoy the sex anymore. Its always the same routine: About once a week she'll come up to me, grab my cock and say "lets have sex". There is always a little doggy, a little mish, she moans and wiggles a little, I'm not sure she O's or not. She says she does, but I don't believe it. There is a little kissing, but no passionate DFK. I feel as if she might be doing it just to make me happy. I miss the pinays that demand cock, and seem to totally love sex while screaming and moan "I love you" at the top of their lungs even though you met them two hours ago. Fake or not, that level of passion makes me perform and enjoy! I don't get any of this with Liar, so my life doesn't have any meaning anymore. This needs to change. ".Aimless:

Having once been married for a long time myself, what else can you expect. Unless, the girl is at your level intellectually, where you get into a heated debate about whether the US should have let Texas go in 1869, when they filed for secession. Or if deporting the dreamers (latest idiot House GOP move), you are not going to have that great of a time. On the other hand, she seems to have let you be. That are not many women out there, who will simply let you be? Is there? As someone to keep your house, she seems to be a "find". I agree with some of the people here. Sounds like you are just bored. You want variety. A mixed box of chocolates. One way of tackling this is tell her, you want to date other women. I haven't met a woman more open minded than a Filipina!

So, don't shack up!

Aimless
01-17-15, 22:04
To all that commented on my Ordeal Report, thanks so much for the feedback. The general consensus appears to be that I'm just bored, which is 100% correct. In the wise words of "Donkey" in the movie Shrek: "Everybody like parfait"; just not for every meal, every day, forever.

To those that offered advice, especially GE, thank you for your pearls of wisdom, seriously. I'm def going to buy some mamasans some drinks.

I really wish I could swing or cheat. I just can't. I think the correct label for my type is "Serial monogamist". At times "Serial Bigamist" might be appropriate too.

Why does playing with girls have to be so much fun? It has to be the most time consuming and expensive addiction there is, except for maybe gambling, but YMMV.

Cheers!

Aimless

Pip Jaeger
01-18-15, 05:04
To all that commented on my Ordeal Report, thanks so much for the feedback. The general consensus appears to be that I'm just bored, which is 100% correct. SNIP. I really wish I could swing or cheat. I just can't. Have you tried to get her to explore her sexuality with other girls? Even if she's not bi-sexual she might be open to letting another girl play with her or open for a 3 some, many Pinays are and many will allow it just to keep her man happy. One of the benefits of a 3 some is that you get to satisfy the urge for something different.

If you haven't done so already, you may also try to spice things up via role playing, sexy costumes / lingerie or with adult toys.

To me it sounds like you've got a pretty good thing going with your GF. Maybe even get her slightly drunk one night to get her to open up and simply talk to her about sexual fantasies, expectations, desires, etc; perhaps they're not being met?

Aimless
01-18-15, 18:19
Aimless:

One way of tackling this is tell her, you want to date other women. I haven't met a woman more open minded than a Filipina!

So, don't shack up!I think we all gravitate to a certain psychological profile of woman. In my case, I always find the devoted, dependent, totally gorgeous monogamist, and not shacking up is never an option with the way I structure our relationship. I like my girl around to bang on a moment's notice.

My GF and I have had chats on skype recently as she is still away from home. She has said that she doesn't get enough attention from me which pisses her off and makes her less interested in passionate sex. In addition, I still text / skype a few of my Pinay ex's that have new BF's and are near marriage. My GF gets insanely jealous, even when I'm giving relationship advice to my ex's with my GF looking over my shoulder. I simply don't have the time or desire to dote on my GF as much as she wants. I really think my GF would simply get pissed and leave if I brought up anything along the lines of an "open relationship". If I leave her alone in public she gets random 18-40 year old guys following her around asking for her cell #, so it certainly wouldn't take her long to find a way out of our relationship, except it would get really ugly as our entangled lives unwind.

CallSign Papa
01-19-15, 19:34
Fabulous story. We all pretend to be wonderful mongers here, and possibly some are true to their word, but I think for many of us we also make interesting errors from time to time, that we probably don't report. Congrats on a great report and a good dose of reality and honesty!For me, reports are as much about what went wrong as what went right. This is how we learn.

I'm back in Manila next month and I hope to make many more mistakes!

Radical Guy
01-19-15, 19:56
I think we all gravitate to a certain psychological profile of woman. In my case, I always find the devoted, dependent, totally gorgeous monogamist, and not shacking up is never an option with the way I structure our relationship. I like my girl around to bang on a moment's notice.

My GF and I have had chats on skype recently as she is still away from home. She has said that she doesn't get enough attention from me which pisses her off and makes her less interested in passionate sex. In addition, I still text / skype a few of my Pinay ex's that have new BF's and are near marriage. My GF gets insanely jealous, even when I'm giving relationship advice to my ex's with my GF looking over my shoulder. I simply don't have the time or desire to dote on my GF as much as she wants. I really think my GF would simply get pissed and leave if I brought up anything along the lines of an "open relationship". If I leave her alone in public she gets random 18-40 year old guys following her around asking for her cell #, so it certainly wouldn't take her long to find a way out of our relationship, except it would get really ugly as our entangled lives unwind.Let's get real here. If you want information and advice on mongering, this site is the place to get it. But if you're seeking relationship advice, the last place you want to go is a website whose members by and large reject the notion of having a committed relationship. Perhaps a letter to Ann Landers may be in order. LOL.

RG.

The Cane
01-20-15, 01:06
Let's get real here. If you want information and advice on mongering, this site is the place to get it. But if you're seeking relationship advice, the last place you want to go is a website whose members by and large reject the notion of having a committed relationship. Perhaps a letter to Ann Landers may be in order. LOL.

RG.LOL you guys are killing me tonight LOLOLOL!

Member #4643
01-20-15, 02:28
Let's get real here. If you want information and advice on mongering, this site is the place to get it. But if you're seeking relationship advice, the last place you want to go is a website whose members by and large reject the notion of having a committed relationship. Perhaps a letter to Ann Landers may be in order. LOL.

RG.I have to agree with this comment. Most of the guys here who read about your woes are thinking, "how can I get this chick if Aimless dumps her"? After all, she is a beautiful female, and she is sexualy submissive, if your description of her is to be believed. Our advice is not likely to be helpful, unless you are looking for one of us to take her off your hands.

I am not certain about Ann Landers vs another columnist, but (unfortunately) may of our members would be delighted to serve as jury for a real fight between these protagonists.

Aimless
01-20-15, 08:26
I have to agree with this comment. Most of the guys here who read about your woes are thinking, "how can I get this chick if Aimless dumps her"? After all, she is a beautiful female, and she is sexualy submissive, if your description of her is to be believed. Our advice is not likely to be helpful, unless you are looking for one of us to take her off your hands.

I am not certain about Ann Landers vs another columnist, but (unfortunately) may of our members would be delighted to serve as jury for a real fight between these protagonists.Relationship advice request? Better RTFF. It was a long term FR. Suggestions were offered by others, and are appreciated. The only advice requested was how to find the P4 P provider that suites my needs: hardly a request for relationship advice unless you consider a 1 week P4P GFE a relationship.

Cheers,

Aimless

Aimless
01-20-15, 11:07
So you are God fearing. I understand why Pinays love you, LOL!

Thanks for the wonderful story!Word! I actually vacillate between agnostic and atheist, but WTF is up with all these "God fearing" pinays? I love chatting on line with them, and when I want to manipulate them into seeing me I'll add something like "I'm sure God would want it" and "Bless you". I'll often hit them up early with "when I come visit, would you invite me to meet your family and go to church with you?" They suck that sh*t up like candy! All I can say is "Thank God for God fearing Pinays! Almost makes me a true believer. Almost. Nah.

Cheers,

Aimless

Sean EZ
01-20-15, 22:18
I really liked EDSA. Went two nights in a row. My takeways.

1. Get there early (10 PM), on busy nights (I remember in Cottons) Japanese take a table upstairs and select a bunch of girls to theirs. Once a girl is busy having drinks with them you won't be able to get her over.

2. Bar fine is quoted at 1950 as non-negotiable, yes you can negotiate it down (got it down to 1800) but could be even less on a slower night.

3. Tips for girls negotiated upfront are negotiable. They quote 3 K ST and 5 K LT, get them much lower.

4. Heard this from 2 girls on separate nights (one of them after I got her in the hotel room), and not sure if it's true but they told me that if they get BF-ed then then cannot take day off next day. This makes some girls not want to be BF-ed. It's either stupid policy, or designed to drive your interest up in a girl who isn't available. Don't fall for it by spending or offering more money. Remember there are plenty of other girls available.

Finally. My overall impression of ESDA and Burgos street, overall quality is 6, up to 8, didn't really see anyone I thought were 9 or 10's. I also didn't like it most girls have flat butts (though there are some with big asses and chunky ones too). I haven't been but heard that top ones are in top KTV's and places like AF1 and AEN. I was about to go to La La Land, after reading good reports about the place and after taxi driver handed me a card with FM's name Mhel (female FM). I was about to go but got turned off by reading other reports of rip-off and weird pricing structure. Ideally you find somebody local or an expac to show you around these places.

FreebieFan
01-21-15, 01:53
Word! I actually vacillate between agnostic and atheist, but WTF is up with all these "God fearing" pinays?

Cheers,

AimlessAbout 1,000 years ago back in the days of Myspace, or maybe even ICQ, probably one girl wrote " I am god fearing" Her sister saw it so put it on her page too. Then the cousin did same, then Auntie Princess etc and now its a national emblem.

Along with " accept me for what I am and what I have ".

And some blah blah about " my personality is mine and my attitude depends on you".

They all copy each others profiles endlessly.

So yeah, milk the god fearing thing. I think many mongers veer to aetheisim and agnosticism but for sure, we share godly stories with the girls when it serves our purpose.

If you ever want to mess with a Filipina ask her serious stuff about god, who is god and why does she believe in a concept that's never been proven (and no offence to the believers here). In the end, she will say its because its what her parents told her.

Mogwai
01-21-15, 04:35
If you ever want to mess with a Filipina ask her serious stuff about god, who is god and why does she believe in a concept that's never been proven (and no offence to the believers here). In the end, she will say its because its what her parents told her.Many years ago when I was chatting with a Pinay on Yahoo Messenger (remember YM?) she made remarks like 'God is good' and 'I am God fearing'.
I asked her 'If God is good then why do you fear him?
Confronted with such a 'blasphemic' question she didn't know what to say and she even got a little bit angry and said 'What are you? A priest?' LOL!

Aimless
01-21-15, 05:43
I really liked EDSA. Went two nights in a row. My takeways.

4. Heard this from 2 girls on separate nights (one of them after I got her in the hotel room), and not sure if it's true but they told me that if they get BF-ed then then cannot take day off next day. This makes some girls not want to be BF-ed. It's either stupid policy, or designed to drive your interest up in a girl who isn't available. Don't fall for it by spending or offering more money. Remember there are plenty of other girls available.Thanks for the great info Sean. Can you please clarify the above statement you made? It sounds like the day after you BF her, she must show up to work and cannot take the day off? If that were the case, it would make good business sense for the bar so that guys that just BF'd a girl cannot keep her an extra day without another BF (which is what I would sure do!) You then say that it would drive up your interest? I'm a little confused as that sounds like they are either off work or not allowed to be barfined? I'm seriously thinking about graduating from F4P on DIA / FC to P4P on Burgos / EDSA so I can avoid all the drama / jealousy that goes with the F P scene, so I appreciate the advice.

Cheers!

Aimless

Slippery
01-21-15, 14:28
Yes, that's the program.

Econo Tech
01-21-15, 17:06
About 1,000 years ago back in the days of Myspace, or maybe even ICQ, probably one girl wrote " I am god fearing" Her sister saw it so put it on her page too. Then the cousin did same, then Auntie Princess etc and now its a national emblem..I have silly issues with their "God Fearing" attitude.

I am not so handsome and often, girls will not show positive response, and when I get a bit bored I just tell them "is it because I am not handsome and attractive that you are not so responsive. ?

The answer? "Don't ever say that, all are beautiful in God's eyes.".

Then that doesn't mean that the decision to not meet me changes.

Hypocrites? LOL.

You live and learn.

Sean EZ
01-21-15, 22:19
Thanks for the great info Sean. Can you please clarify the above statement you made? It sounds like the day after you BF her, she must show up to work and cannot take the day off? If that were the case, it would make good business sense for the bar so that guys that just BF'd a girl cannot keep her an extra day without another BF (which is what I would sure do!) You then say that it would drive up your interest? I'm a little confused as that sounds like they are either off work or not allowed to be barfined? I'm seriously thinking about graduating from F4P on DIA / FC to P4P on Burgos / EDSA so I can avoid all the drama / jealousy that goes with the F P scene, so I appreciate the advice.

Cheers!

AimlessExactly. The girls must show up for work next day after they are barfined the night before. I was having drinks with a really cute girl who needed to be off tomorrow and could not go with me. This confirmed what another girl told me the day before. So must be true. I liked her and now she has bargaining power over me. As we tend to want to have what we cannot have I was tempted to offer her on top of 5 K LT tip. But your explanation makes a lot more sense to me. Def less drama if you meet a girl outside of these establishments. I hate being paraded out of ESDA every manasan and every girl checking you out and greedy taxi drivers outside. For internet dating try Tidner, I met a very cute girl this way.

Transporter
01-23-15, 03:01
Ordeal Report.

So, here are a couple questions for you Pros:

1) I like really hot girls with real GFE (lets call her Miss 10 GFE). Do you guys think I can go to Burgos or EDSA and find a really hot provider that will give real GFE? Or do they all know they're hot and feel like they don't need to perform?

2) I'm only going for about two weeks or so, and would like to have just one really amazing girl for the week, LT every night. I'm willing to pay what you guys have outlined as typical Burgos / EDSA barfines, but is there some way that after the first night I can avoid barfining her every night? I don't mind richly rewarding Miss 10 GFE, but I don't want to waste it on the bar if I don't have to.

3) Any other strategies to find Miss 10 GFE are greatly appreciated. Please keep in mind that I only barfined a girl once in Thailand 15 years ago, and then stayed with her for the week, so I'm a noob at this. All the rest have been DIA / FC girls introducing me to the family.

Cheers!

AimlessYes I do believe you can find Miss 10 GFE. This is because you know what you want. Since you know what you want, it is easy to search for. Since you found a 10 before, then you will be able to find a 10 again. And the GFE will depend on you. You may have to make an attempt many times and fail, but it can be had. Get to know the mommies, they if they believe you are sincere, they will probably be able to help you out.

KyCuriosity
01-23-15, 03:32
Thanks for the great info Sean. Can you please clarify the above statement you made? It sounds like the day after you BF her, she must show up to work and cannot take the day off? If that were the case, it would make good business sense for the bar so that guys that just BF'd a girl cannot keep her an extra day without another BF (which is what I would sure do!) You then say that it would drive up your interest? I'm a little confused as that sounds like they are either off work or not allowed to be barfined? I'm seriously thinking about graduating from F4P on DIA / FC to P4P on Burgos / EDSA so I can avoid all the drama / jealousy that goes with the F P scene, so I appreciate the advice.

Cheers!

AimlessI hardly ever comment anymore because it's been years since I've been there, but I'm looking to plan a trip again soon. I am currently talking online to a bargirl (yeah, I know) and she has said the exact same thing. If they are barfined they are required to work the next day to get their money. If they don't work the next day, they forfeit their portion of the barfine. "my girl" said that's they way all bars do it. Even when they are allowed one day off a week, often on Tuesday or Wednesday, if they BF the day before then they have to work on their only day off to receive the money. Technically they can still take their day off but then they would basically be fucking for free.

BrainDrain
01-23-15, 07:14
if they BF the day before then they have to work on their only day off to receive the money. Technically they can still take their day off but then they would basically be fucking for free.It's just maths and the girls know best. One punter is just one punter whom breezes in and out of town. While we are on here chatting, those girls are working the bars.

I've had girls have to go back to 'sign off' at about 4 or 5 am at the end of their shift, I guess a similar thing.

I've had girls whon have done the sums and decided they can forfeit one night of their BF share and instead take all of the following day's BF which they may have told you they will pay to the bar but they will keep 100%.

Basically the bars do give the girls security and an ongoing income, they don't get BF every day, or even every week but they do get a job, a workplace and friends. We are just visitors and quite often their allegiance is to the mamasan whom will look after them.

Member #4387
01-27-15, 13:40
I love pinays and I feast from them in almost all aspects. Just want to state this and some of you pinay protectors will choke so you may not want to read further. What I am going to say is a known subject as many have been postponed for the same BS. Some short historically background: mid / late 2013 my daughter with phil mother was borned. Early 2014 my daughter with domestic GF borned. Right after this I went to hospital and got snipped, thinking "skoggy, now you have enough descendants", hehe, both thinking they are the only child. I have after this juiced up quite a few pinays and just waited what was bound to happen. A pinay told me in June she was 2 months pregnant with my child without me saying much else than "OK, it happens, no worries we work something out". I know of course she is lying (not being pregnant but my child NO) but I am playing her (since she is obviously playing me). Since the baby was born here the other day I've seen pics and even if a newborn can be hard to divide being mixed or not this baby looks all in as a phil baby from origin. I compare pics with my mixed phil daughter mentioned above.

I have not provided this mother with the great news yet I can hardly be the father bcs my sperm is useless. I want to play along and see how far it goes before I pop her the good news. And I thought I only met good ladies, hehe. So this is going to be an interesting one. Actually this is like reading some of the stories I've heard and read before and I find it funny to be in the middle of one myself. What divide this girl from the mother of my phil baby is that this girl is by far a Hi so type. She is a datingsite girl from origin, with only small job contracts here and there and she never even bothers to finish one but quits by herself as the payment is to small or she doesn't want to get up early in the morning. I have told her many times, even the pay is small, to keep her jobs as it shows she is dedicated and wants to obtain a regular life. She has never listened. I believe she of course to have been joining the money against sex occupation in phils from time to time (I have from good intel I am right). I have photo proof I also want to show her when she comes with the excusing tirade I will receive when I pop her the "I am snipped" routine. I know by fact she is covering her lies with a lie and that one with a new one so it basically never stops.

With the mother of my phil baby it was a total difference as she was highly educated, earned good money and if she had to she would be more than happy to raise the baby by herself. She was not stucked in a bad situation as she wanted a mixed baby and I gave it to her (did not mean to but it happened). She has never claimed me a daim but I ship in every now and then and I pay half for her and daughters rental in Makati so mother can obtain her very good job as lawyer in a big international bank here in mentioned place. Actually I left her with a Norwegian debit card I could spare so I just ship in money electronically so she can withdraw whenever she feels like. Actually she withdraws to little compare to the rental cost each month and don't spend much. Me and her have very good rel by the way. She is just happy having a mixed kid as she despite pinoys. She is educated abroad, lived many years in various countries and have not so much good things to say about phils (of course). Her family manage quite well so she lives pretty much a European girls life with no family attachments which phils are so "famous" for.

So how far should I push this one, I want to put a hacker on the subject to see if she claims same thing with other punters? I got her to use my ipad once so I could log into her accounts after she left but she managed to avoid this. Other girls have not been so clever, hehe.

It is all in good fun but I look forward to the day comes when I can pop her the real truth and I want do do it face to face. I am also willing to commit into a DNA test on her expense. I just want to play a little and se how far she will go before she admits the truth. ?

Asian Rain
01-27-15, 15:46
So how far should I push this one, I want to put a hacker on the subject to see if she claims same thing with other punters?

It is all in good fun but I look forward to the day comes when I can popp her the real truth and I want do do it face to face. I am also willing to commit into a DNA test on her expense. I just want to play a little and se how far she will go before she admits the truth. ?Sounds like you have lots of time on your hands. Push it to the max! Then report to the forum members for their amusement. But seriously, what's the joy in outing a Filipina MILF you KNOW is lying? AR.

Member #4387
01-27-15, 17:10
Sounds like you have lots of time on your hands. Push it to the max! Then report to the forum members for their amusement. But seriously, what's the joy in outing a Filipina MILF you KNOW is lying? AR.Just the fact some indignant people of this forum thinks they are not. All in the benefits of the pinays as they are poor and we all feel so sorry for them. Well I am not. On the other hand there are so many other stupid things being debated here or there so this will just drown in its all. In my world outing is if I did mention her name and number. I have no agenda whatsoever but pinays from datingsites can not be trusted either, hehe.

I also write this as i know quite a few been in and probably will end in the same situation so i think not the subject are uncalled for. My way of doing it and how i do it can always be questioned of course. I just write what ever i feel like and that's it. U as a seasoned monger find this not as a problem but we have newbies here so they cank now what to expect. I don't sit on the answers,far from it,i just tell my experience(s). And i thought maybe that was the this forum was all about(maybe i am wrong). This post can die if it is not called for as many others do.

And yes I have only one daughter I care for in Norway. Work(or in my case business)goes smoothly so I have loads of time on my own. Often spend in the slopes of Norway weekdays(telemark or slalom)sometimes with gf and baby.

Dg8787
01-27-15, 18:11
Sounds like you have lots of time on your hands. Push it to the max! Then report to the forum members for their amusement. But seriously, what's the joy in outing a Filipina MILF you KNOW is lying? AR.As most Filipinas don't know their fertile cycle she could be mistaken. Also snipping is not 100%. Best is to tell her now that noway, you are infertile and that you will have DNA test after birth. Most Filipinas are not aware of DNA testing either.

Dg8787
01-27-15, 18:20
Thanks for the great info Sean. Can you please clarify the above statement you made? It sounds like the day after you BF her, she must show up to work and cannot take the day off? If that were the case, it would make good business sense for the bar so that guys that just BF'd a girl cannot keep her an extra day without another BF (which is what I would sure do!) You then say that it would drive up your interest? I'm a little confused as that sounds like they are either off work or not allowed to be barfined? I'm seriously thinking about graduating from F4P on DIA / FC to P4P on Burgos / EDSA so I can avoid all the drama / jealousy that goes with the F P scene, so I appreciate the advice.

Cheers!

AimlessPlain and simple. This rule is in effect to prevent you and others from cheating the bar out of a BF.

Hutsori
01-27-15, 18:54
So how far should I push this one...Mixed feelings on this. Plenty of girls meet other guys concurrently. You're in town and perhaps the other sperm shooters are not. Or you have money and the others don't. This girl may even know about your other kids, thus she may see you as a responsible chap. Run the accusation up the flagpole and see if you salute it. In her defence I've met plenty of girls who don't know their cycles well or who have irregular ones.

AR asked a good question, which I'll paraphrase: "What do you gain from it?" Other than the satisfaction of proving someone devious I don't see much upside for you. She may very well react quite horribly if you rub her nose in it, especially if she has completely built and occupied the fantasy world of you taking care of her and the baby. Has she told her father, uncles, and brothers that you're the father and you'll take care of her... and by extension them? *Poof* There goes their lifetime supply of Emperador. And it's your fault. This could get hairy for you. I don't want to be an alarmist but the potential downside is significantly worse than the upside for you. If I were you I wouldn't mention the vasectomy at first, rather go with asking her for a DNA test. (Does she have the money to pay for it?) If she balks this strongly suggests that she believes you're not the father; you get the satisfaction you seek without causing her too much humiliation. Then you may tell her about vasectomy, if you think wise.

I don't know Philippine law, but I know legal systems can be capricious, especially in an us insiders versus you outsiders situation. In a different Asian country a friend of mine was accused of paternity. He obtained the blood and DNA tests proving he wasn't the dad. The girl sued him. Did her lawyer caution her against doing so? Nope. Was her case tossed out of court? Nope. Did he win? Yes. Was that the end of it? No. She appealed and more money out his pocket. Did he win the appeal? Yes. Was that the end of it? Certainly not. And off they went to the Supreme Court. For an effin paternity case. My friend never envisioned it going on so long, so far, and so expensively.

Member #4387
01-27-15, 23:35
I play along then. I thought this was a bit humorist but even being not to paranoid I just go along with another DNA test for everyone's pleasure. I will pay attention to this situation but I think I am good to go in and out of phils as I have no info she is somewhat connected to any authorities whatsoever. Thanks for the heads up Huts, I regret it (my post already) but still a reminder for lets say newbies.

Pip Jaeger
01-27-15, 23:53
AR asked a good question, which I'll paraphrase: "What do you gain from it?" Other than the satisfaction of proving someone devious I don't see much upside for you. She may very well react quite horribly if you rub her nose in it, especially if she has completely built and occupied the fantasy world of you taking care of her and the baby. Has she told her father, uncles, and brothers that you're the father and you'll take care of her... and by extension them? *Poof* There goes their lifetime supply of Emperador. And it's your fault. This could get hairy for you. I don't want to be an alarmist but the potential downside is significantly worse than the upside for you. If I were you I wouldn't mention the vasectomy at first, rather go with asking her for a DNA test. (Does she have the money to pay for it?) If she balks this strongly suggests that she believes you're not the father; you get the satisfaction you seek without causing her too much humiliation. Then you may tell her about vasectomy, if you think wise.Excellent advice Huts and asking ourselves "What do I gain from it?" is something we could apply to other situations girls may try to put us into here as well. I can easily see Skogis's situation going downhill for him real fast. If the girl thinks she's going to loose her gravy train she could turn around and claim you sexually assaulted her (apparently the short 4 letter word, that starts with an "R" and ends with "ape" is prohibited to use, LOL). Even though there's no evidence it would still cost him a few thousand (or perhaps even hundred's of thousands) pesos to get out of it. Or she could try to set him up and scam him some other way. It doesn't matter what caste she come from, there's a good chance she has a friend or family member in the PNP who would be in on the scam.


but still a reminder for lets say newbees.And another reminder for foreigners: We already wear a target on our backs, do your best to keep it as small as possible.

Hutsori
01-28-15, 05:44
Thanks for the heads up Huts, I regret it (my post allready) but still a reminder for lets say newbees.From my perspective you don't need to regret anything. I see the humour, and the potential for even more, in this. A good story is always a good story. If she was claiming pregnancy falsely I'd play along if I were you, but since there is a real baby the seriousness of the situation is exponentially higher. Is a humourous story, which is the most you stand you gain, worth the risk?

LuvAsianTang
01-28-15, 20:29
I love pinays and I feast from them in almost all aspects. Just want to state this and some of you pinay protectors will choke so you may not want to read further. What I am going to say is a known subject as many have been postponed for the same BS. Some short historicaly background: mid / late 2013 my daughter with phil mother was borned. Early 2014 my daughter with domestic GF borned. Right after this I went to hospital and got snipped, thinking "skoggy, now you have enough descentants", hehe, both thinking they are the only child. I have after this juiced up quite a few pinays and just waited what was bound to happen. A pinay told me in June she was 2 months pregnant with my child without me saying much else than "ok, it happens, no worries we work something out". I know ofcourse she is lying (not beeing pregnant but my child NO) but I am playing her (since she is obviously playing me). Since the baby was born here the other day I've seen pics and even if a newborn can be hard to devide beeing mixed or not this baby looks all in as a phil baby from origin. I compare pics with my mixed phil daughter mentioned above.

I have not provided this mother with the great news yet I can hardly be the father bcs my spermia is useless. I want to play along and see how far it goes before I pop her the good news. And I thought I only met good ladies, hehe. So this is going to be an interesting one. Actually this is like reading some of the stories I've heard and read before and I find it funny to be inthe middle of one myself. What devide this girl from the mother of my phil baby is that this girl is by far a Hi so type. She is a datingsite girl from origin, with only small job contracts here and there and she never even bothers to finish one but quits by herself as the payment is to small or she doesn't want to get up early in the morning. I have told her many times, eventhe pay is small, to keep her jobs as it shows she is dedicated and wants to obtain a regular life. She has never listened. I believe she ofcourse to have been joining the money against sex occupation in phils from time to time (I have from good intel I am right). I have photoproof I also want to show her when she comes with the excusing tirade iwill recieve when I pop her the "I am snipped" routine. I know by fact she is covering her lies with a lie and that one with a new one so it basically never stops.

With the mother of my phil baby it was a total difference as she was highly educated, earned good money and if she had to she would be more than happy to raise the baby by herself. She was not stucked in a bad situation as she wanted a mixed baby and I gave it to her (did not mean to but it happened). She has never claimed me a daim but I ship in every now and then and I pay half for her and daughters rental in Makati so mother can obtain her very good job as lawyer in a big international bank here in mentioned place. Actually I left her with a norwegian debetcard I could spare so I just ship in money electronicaly so she can withdraw whenever she feels like. Actually she withdraws to little compare to the rental cost each month and don't spend much. Me and her have very good rel by the way. She is just happy having a mixed kid as she depites pinoys. She is educated abroad, lived many years in various countries and have not so much good things to say about phils (ofcourse). Her family manage quite well so she lives pretty much a european girls life with no family attachments which phils are so "famous" for.

So how far should I push this one, I want to put a hacker on the subject to see if she claims same thing with other punters? I got her to use my ipad once so I could log into her accounts after she left but she managed to avoid this. Other girls have not been so clever, hehe.

It is all in good fun but I look forward to the day comes when I can popp her the real truth and I want do do it face to face. I am also willing to commit into a DNA test on her expense. I just want to play a little and se how far she will go before she admits the truth. ?Get retested too, as sometimes the vas will migrate back together and cause unwanted fathering.

Cbea20
01-29-15, 03:05
Not to worry much about repercussions. "In a different Asian country" the impregnated girl or her family, or an NGO might have the resources to file a court case. In the Philippines, she won't even have the means for a DNA test. In ten years only one woman has told me she has gone to court over this. The perpetrator was a prominent filipino, and she was earning her legal expenses through the LA Cafe. As for poor relatives being disappointed, they will not travel very far to find you.


...I don't know Philippine law, but I know legal systems can be capricious, especially in an us insiders versus you outsiders situation. In a different Asian country a friend of mine was accused of paternity. He obtained the blood and DNA tests proving he wasn't the dad. The girl sued him. Did her lawyer caution her against doing so? Nope. Was her case tossed out of court? Nope. Did he win? Yes. Was that the end of it? No. She appealed and more money out his pocket. Did he win the appeal? Yes. Was that the end of it? Certainly not. And off they went to the Supreme Court. For an effin paternity case. My friend never envisioned it going on so long, so far, and so expensively.

Gorgon
01-29-15, 06:06
Skogis tale is the best thing I have read in days on the forums. Please keep us updated with the latest drama. Skogis, have you done a test of your load just to be sure there isn't any swimmers left? This could get ugly otherwise.

WestCoast1
01-29-15, 07:34
Skogis tale is the best thing I have read in days on the forums. Please keep us updated with the latest drama. Skogis, have you done a test of your load just to be sure there isn't any swimmers left? This could get ugly otherwise.Post surgical motility test is standard procedure, 30 or so days after. It should show no swimmers.

WestCoast1
01-29-15, 07:35
Get retested too, as sometimes the vas will migrate back together and cause unwanted fathering.At what rate? In addition to being snipped, the vas are tied off.

Red Kilt
01-29-15, 13:51
Post surgical motility test is standard procedure, 30 or so days after. It should show no swimmers.When I had mine done they just cauterized the ends and there was a (slim) chance that the ends could get connected again (I forget the odds). It was very very difficult to reverse the operation if you needed it, so there was a rigorous process prior to the snip to help you be absolutely certain you wanted the vasectomy.

Now I understand that the modern approach is to cap the ends so that reversal is "easier". It seems it could also be "easier" for the caps to come off too.

Pip Jaeger
01-29-15, 14:04
When I had mine done they just cauterized the ends and there was a (slim) chance that the ends could get connected again (I forget the odds). It was very very difficult to reverse the operation if you needed it, so there was a rigorous process prior to the snip to help you be absolutely certain you wanted the vasectomy.

Now I understand that the modern approach is to cap the ends so that reversal is "easier". It seems it could also be "easier" for the caps to come off too.Even though I was sterile I had to have a vasectomy a few years ago for other reasons. Also the USA doc told me he was required to inform me of the two procedures you outlined RK. The only difference when I had mine done was that the doc also removed about a 2-3 cm section of the tube before cauterizing the ends; virtually no chance of them ever mending back together on their own.

Did a home test and called in the results to his office. Once after 30 days (and at least after 8-10 ejaculations to clear out any residual sperm to eliminate a false positive reading) and again after 90 days.

Cool Traveler
01-29-15, 18:21
Skog,

I like you. Just let it go. Not because of time or money. But you are way above this. Let it go buddy. You never know what is lurking underneath those rocks.


Just the fact some indignated people of this forum thinks they are not. All in the benefits of the pinays as they are poor and we all feel so sorry for them. Well I am not. On the other hand there are so many other stupid things beeing debated here or there so this will just drown in its all. In my world outing is if I did mention her name and number. I have no agenda whatsoever but pinays from dating sites can not be trusted either, hehe.

I also write this as I know quite a few been in and probably will end in the same situation so i think not the subject are uncalled for. My way of doing it and how i do it can allways be questioned ofcourse. I just write what ever i feel like and thats it. U as a seasoned monger find this not as a problem but we have newbees here so they canknow what to expect. I dont sit onthe answers,far from it,i just tell my experience(s). And i thought maby that was the this forum was all about(maybe i am wrong).. This post can die if it is not called for as many others do.

And yes i have only one daughter I care for in Norway. Work (or in my case business) goes smoothly so I have loads of time on my own. Often spend in the slopes of Norway weekdays(telemark or slalom)sometimes with gf and baby...

Aibolit
01-29-15, 22:18
I'd like to share with the forum an exchange I've had with a lovely Philippine that seems to be dying to meet me in Manila. On here DIA profile she wrote she's 19. On her FB. No birth year, but the birth date that is only in a few months from now. When we chat with her on FB, she tells me that she really wants to meet, but as she's a minor, I should also meet her family. I immediately say "what? So she says to me. Just kidding. That raised my antennas, particularly after she has was kind of pursuing me.

I confronted her on the matter, saying that I don't date minors. She immediately said that she's not a minor, that it was a joke and her NSO (or something like that) birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. She said something about her birth date being messed up by the hospital, that is why her real birth date is different (later?) than the official NSO birth certificate states. She claimed not to be a scammer and promised to bring NSO certificate to our first date. She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.

So, what the elders of this site say? On one hand, the girl is very cute, bubbly, and claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that I don't want to take any risk whatsoever. Any advice will be welcome!

Aibolit

Slippery
01-29-15, 22:27
Move on. Why even contemplate the risk when there are so many others available?

Pip Jaeger
01-30-15, 00:05
SNIP birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. SNIP claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that I don't want to take any risk whatsoever.There's no photo on the birth certificate, so who's to say that it's hers and not her sister's, cousin's or one she found in the trash? Block her and forget her.

Ikksman
01-30-15, 00:50
I'd like to share with the forum an exchange I've had with a lovely young Philippine that seems to be dying to meet me in Manila. On here DIA profile she wrote she's 19. On her FB. No birth year, but the birth date that is only in a few months from now. When we chat with her on FB, she tells me that she really wants to meet, but as she's a minor, I should also meet her family. I immediately say "what? So she says to me. Just kidding. That raised my antennas, particularly after she has was kind of pursuing me.

I confronted her on the matter, saying that I don't date minors. She immediately said that she's not a minor, that it was a joke and her NSO (or something like that) birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. She said something about her birth date being messed up by the hospital, that is why her real birth date is different (later?) than the official NSO birth certificate states. She claimed not to be a scammer and promised to bring NSO certificate to our first date. She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate. {S N I P}It is possible for anyone to obtain a birth certificate (one can even apply by email), of any other person in PI, simply by knowing the personal details of that person, birth details and parent's identities.

I know of case where a person was taking details from cemetery graves, finding additional details from relatives, getting birth certificates and then creating false identities (to commit fraud).

NSO is the National Statistics Office. I am sure that details will be on their website.

Ikksman.

Simmer
01-30-15, 01:37
...NSO certificate to our first date. She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.They have anti-counterfeiting techniques but are very, very basic and far too easy to fabricate.

FreebieFan
01-30-15, 01:40
I'd like to share with the forum an exchange I've had with a lovely young Philippine that seems to be dying to meet me in Manila. On here DIA profile she wrote she's 19. On her FB. No birth year, but the birth date that is only in a few months from now. When we chat with her on FB, she tells me that she really wants to meet, but as she's a minor, I should also meet her family. I immediately say "what? So she says to me. Just kidding. That raised my antennas, particularly after she has was kind of pursuing me.

I confronted her on the matter, saying that I don't date minors. She immediately said that she's not a minor, that it was a joke and her NSO (or something like that) birth certificate states that she's 18 years old. She said something about her birth date being messed up by the hospital, that is why her real birth date is different (later?) than the official NSO birth certificate states. She claimed not to be a scammer and promised to bring NSO certificate to our first date. She also said that this certificate is impossible to fabricate.

So, what the elders of this site say? On one hand, the girl is very cute, bubbly, and claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that I don't want to take any risk whatsoever. Any advice will be welcome!

Aibolit.Take a trip to little Quiapou. You can buy fake I'd's copy birth certs, marriage certs. Every legal document you want is there. Want to be a Professer. Go Little Quiapou. And if its that easy and open and avaialble to all. Who would trust a birth cert from a potential. Do a cost benefit analysis. It aint worth it.

Red Kilt
01-30-15, 03:31
Even though I was sterile I had to have a vasectomy a few years ago for other reasons. Also the USA doc told me he was required to inform me of the two procedures you outlined RK. The only difference when I had mine done was that the doc also removed about a 2-3 cm section of the tube before cauterizing the ends; virtually no chance of them ever mending back together on their own.

Did a home test and called in the results to his office. Once after 30 days (and at least after 8-10 ejaculations to clear out any residual sperm to eliminate a false positive reading) and again after 90 days.My experience was virtually the same PJ.

I went back after a month and jacked off into a bottle (funny experience. The nurse gave me 2 copies of an old Penthouse magazine before they left me alone to do the deed).

Zero wrigglers. He asked me to return again after 6 months and once again I was clear.

Just to add to the Skog discussion. I have had had 3 different girls accusing me of being a "father" (post vasectomy).

The first one I interrogated about her period dates and concluded that she was probably NOT preggers anyway and sure enough; 4 weeks later she told me she had her period. The other 2 I ignored completely as either they were also false alarms and I knew it didn't concern me anyway because it wasn't me.

I didn't need to get any kicks by teasing them about trying to scam me. Just cutting off all contact was enough retribution for me.

Gorgon
01-30-15, 04:44
Aibolit.

Revisit it in a year. There are so many 20 yo providers here that look like they are 14 if that is what you are in to so why risk it.

Aibolit
01-30-15, 21:11
Thanks everyone for the words of caution regarding the girl that may be few months short of being 18, but claims otherwise. I agree that it doesn't worth the risk and will act accordingly.

But, it did occur to me that one of the cuties in my lineup in Manila is 18, another 19. Should I ask them all for IDs? Wouldn't it be a bit too off-putting? After giving it some thought, I think the following system may be best to keep safe:

1. Tell the girl you ask her to turn off her phone when on a date. This will hopefully conceal her whereabouts from whoever she maybe inclined to disclose it to.

2. Check ID.

3. Most importantly. Use judgement. If the ID is OK, phone is off and she seems genuinely into you. Then most likely things are OK.

4. Don't disclose until the last moment the name of the hotel.

5. Slip into hotel as unnoticed as possible, so that the staff can't become the source of the trouble.

Happy hunting!

Aibolit

Red Kilt
01-31-15, 05:42
Thanks everyone for the words of caution regarding the girl that may be few months short of being 18, but claims otherwise. I agree that it doesn't worth the risk and will act accordingly.

But, it did occur to me that one of the cuties in my lineup in Manila is 18, another 19. Should I ask them all for IDs? Wouldn't it be a bit too off-putting? You are sailing close to the wind if you are planning to meet 18 year old girls. I DS are cheap and easy to obtain here and don't mean anything for a woman who is out to scam you.

You also CANNOT go by looks alone.

I have been to many weddings here in the Philippines and I have seen some bridesmaids who are barely teenagers (like 12 or 14) but are painted up with extreme make-up and hairdos and padded clothing and they could pass for 18 or 20 year olds.

Good luck with having the phone switched off all the time. You will need to confiscate it from her if you want to be sure because there are so many ways to keep phones on even when they are apparently switched off. Confiscating her phone will be a bigger turn-off for her than asking for I D .

As I said to you when you started planning; you are over-doing it. Your experience will be spoiled by you trying to remember the very long planning list you are checking off in your head.

Nothing goes according to plan in the Philippines. You will find that out soon after you emerge from the airport.

AussieDoug
01-31-15, 13:19
So, what the elders of this site say? On one hand, the girl is very cute, bubbly, and claims to have some certificate of being of a legal age. On the other hand, I heard so many stories of tourist traps by local police using girls that are almost 18 (but not really) that I don't want to take any risk whatsoever. Any advice will be welcome!

Aibolit.Don't know if this still applies, but in the past the Australian government would not accept philipine birth certificates if produced by the government, would only accept from the catholic church.

Wicked Roger
01-31-15, 14:10
I DS are cheap and easy to obtain here and don't mean anything for a woman who is out to scam you.

Good luck with having the phone switched off all the time. You will need to confiscate it from her if you want to be sure because there are so many ways to keep phones on even when they are apparently switched off. Confiscating her phone will be a bigger turn-off for her than asking for I D .

Nothing goes according to plan in the Philippines. You will find that out soon after you emerge from the airport.The IDs am told can bought for as little as 1000 pesos jut depends what ID.

Mobile. The only way is to turn it off yourself and if you really feel the need to remover the battery and then place all in the in room safe. Other than that good luck.

What do mean RK. Emerge from the airport? In the airport, as you arrive LOL.

Aibolit
01-31-15, 16:29
Red Kilt. You're right that 18 year old Date is close to the headwinds, as you put it (or something like that). This is why I'm hesitating here. I do appreciate all the input.

At the same time, even 24 year olds can in reality be 18 year old (by your own logic: makeup, padding, etc). So, the danger is everywhere, unless you are into dating late 20's (I'm not). That is why, even when I date a 24 year old. I may have no choice but to agree with her that the phone has to be turned off and stored with mine in the same safe (to make it appear like an equal treatment). I may come up with some story why: need to forget about the outside world, work for the US Embassy, etc.

I really don't see at this point any other way around this.

Aibolit

Red Kilt
02-01-15, 05:56
. . . . I may have no choice but to agree with her that the phone has to be turned off and stored with mine in the same safe (to make it appear like an equal treatment). I may come up with some story why: need to forget about the outside world, work for the US Embassy, etc.

I really don't see at this point any other way around this.
If you are worried about her using the phone to call in someone from outside to scam you then there must be something about her that troubles you. I guess it means that you have not vetted your contacts well enough. Just play it by ear. Don't apply a blanket "one size fits all" method of dealing with girls.

For me, if I have any misgivings or unease about a girl I simply would not meet her.

Life is too short to spend looking over your shoulder waiting for something bad to happen. A touch of paranoia?

As I said earlier Aibolit; the more detailed and precise your plans are before you even arrive in the Philippines, the more likelihood there is that it will go belly-up.

Mogwai
02-01-15, 11:52
Hi guys,

I have planned to go to Manila by the end of this week. I have quite a lot of experience in the Phils but this will be my first time in Manila. I'm not so sure if I will like it so I will book only 5 days for the time being. I will for sure like the ladies but not the city I'm afraid.

I want to pick up freelancers in places like LA Cafe, Robinson's and Harrison Plaza.
I have RTFF and done some searches (ok, maybe not that thoroughly) but it's not completely clear to me what the going rates are for ST. Can anyone fill me in?

D Cups
02-01-15, 15:52
Hi guys,

I have planned to go to Manila by the end of this week. I have quite a lot of experience in the Phils but this will be my first time in Manila. I'm not so sure if I will like it so I will book only 5 days for the time being. I will for sure like the ladies but not the city I'm afraid.

I want to pick up freelancers in places like LA Cafe, Robinson's and Harrison Plaza.
I have RTFF and done some searches (ok, maybe not that thoroughly) but it's not completely clear to me what the going rates are for ST. Can anyone fill me in?1500 to 2 K if she was really good IMO.

Ikksman
02-01-15, 20:37
{S N I P} I may have no choice but to agree with her that the phone has to be turned off and stored with mine in the same safe (to make it appear like an equal treatment). I may come up with some story why: need to forget about the outside world, work for the US Embassy, etc.

I really don't see at this point any other way around this.

Aibolit.Some girls will strongly resist the idea of, even temporarily, losing their "comforter" (cell phone). Could spoil the moment!

I have no idea of the legality in PI (actually I do have an idea - haha), but if you are always worried, you could investigate the purchase of a low powered pocket cell phone jammer (no more than 3 m radius). The cost in China is about USD150.

Ikksman.

Pip Jaeger
02-01-15, 22:54
For me, if I have any misgivings or unease about a girl I simply would not meet her.And even if you do meet a girl and then have any "misgivings" as RK aptly put it, give her a couple hundred pesos to cover her transport and wish her a good day. Trust your gut and always listen to the brain in your big head, not the little one.

Swiss George
02-03-15, 12:57
Hi there,

I'm currently on an extended business trip in the Philippines (Makati) and was wondering if anyone can recommend reliable upscale companionship agencies in Makati / Manila? Price isn't an object. Quality is. I want to minimize the risk of a bait-and-switch and, as far as possible, the risk of some STD-ridden junkie turning up at my hotel room.

The girl I'm seeing here is interested in spicing things up with an extra partner, so we're looking for both male and female companionship services. We'd rather avoid the whole pick-up scene.

VicVeg
02-04-15, 08:36
Hi there,

I'm currently on an extended business trip in the Philippines (Makati) and was wondering if anyone can recommend reliable upscale companionship agencies in Makati / Manila? Price isn't an object. Quality is. I want to minimize the risk of a bait-and-switch and, as far as possible, the risk of some STD-ridden junkie turning up at my hotel room.

The girl I'm seeing here is interested in spicing things up with an extra partner, so we're looking for both male and female companionship services. We'd rather avoid the whole pick-up scene.You can google 'manila escorts' and many agencies will pop up. You will see some are more expensive than others. Some girls work for multiple agencies, some with different prices. I was with the average priced girls from the sites and was not impressed. They seemed like lower end girls that were plump, smoked, dirty etc. The higher priced girls will be a lot better I bet. Meet them in the lobby and check them out. If you don't like, you can always turn them away. But I would suggest you try the Havana Cafe scene. You get a part time girl who works a normal job, and is clean, educated etc. You get to 'interview' them for a while for only the price of her drink. You can talk about sex and what you like etc. You can judge her attitude. With a pro, you don't know what you get and her attitude might be all business. It is to be hard to sniff this out with only the lobby interview you will give her.

Good luck.

Swiss George
02-04-15, 15:01
Thanks, VicVeg, for your reply and for your advice about the Cafe! Coming from Switzerland, I'm a little bit apprehensive about booking the first agency that pops up on Google, as you never know what the quality will be like. In Switzerland, at least, I knew that some agencies had a good reputation and basically offered a very nice experience catering to all my needs. Of course, they were priced accordingly ($700/ hour and up), so I guess I'm looking for a local equivalent.

Any recommendations?


You can google 'manila escorts' and many agencies will pop up. You will see some are more expensive than others. Some girls work for multiple agencies, some with different prices. I was with the average priced girls from the sites and was not impressed. They seemed like lower end girls that were plump, smoked, dirty etc. The higher priced girls will be a lot better I bet. Meet them in the lobby and check them out. If you don't like, you can always turn them away. But I would suggest you try the Havana Cafe scene. You get a part time girl who works a normal job, and is clean, educated etc. You get to 'interview' them for a while for only the price of her drink. You can talk about sex and what you like etc. You can judge her attitude. With a pro, you don't know what you get and her attitude might be all business. It is to be hard to sniff this out with only the lobby interview you will give her. Good luck.

VicVeg
02-04-15, 22:43
Thanks, VicVeg, for your reply and for your advice about the Cafe! Coming from Switzerland, I'm a little bit apprehensive about booking the first agency that pops up on Google, as you never know what the quality will be like. In Switzerland, at least, I knew that some agencies had a good reputation and basically offered a very nice experience catering to all my needs. Of course, they were priced accordingly ($700/ hour and up), so I guess I'm looking for a local equivalent.

Any recommendations?http://manilacourtesans.com/

http://manilaescorts.ph/

http://www.vipmanila.net/all/home.html

Try these. Order the girls once you are there. Text / call them and they will tell you who is available. Don't give any $ until they are in your room and the service is done. If you don't like them, turn them away. There is no need for the agency to scam you. It is all legal, and many girls are willing to provide for those rates. The disappointment might come because the girl won't BBBJ, allow DATY, or will have crappy attitude etc. That is why Havana cafe is the best option. You can find a sweetheart who is just begging to bone a nice foreigner for a few pesos. They are horny and want sex so why not make a few pesos doing it rather than boning a local guy who is not to treat them nice. You are to pay them, and lick their pussy, try to make them cum etc etc. What local guy is to do that?

Member #4387
02-05-15, 12:47
Times and times over I have stated I get tired of GF's pussy pounding this a couple of weeks in a row. Now we have resided in Boracay since 29, arriving back into Manila yesterday. Was supposed to stay a bit longer but not unwillingly did I follow GF's lead when she told me she got tired of Boracay and our nice resort. She went back to our baby and grannies in Valenzuela and I managed to get a couple of days leave with friend working in MNL so we booked ourself into the mentioned hotel and a bayview suite.

It did take approx 1 HR before I established contact to a dear FB friend of mine promisingme to provide me with her studentfriends. She shipped 3 girls over. Outside the hotel (the old Hyatt one), they waited in a taxi for me to pay. It was a busy arrivaltime at the hotel and bustling with koreans all eyeballing me having 3 girls (quite small) stumbling out of the taxi after I paid the driver. My guts and brave instincts (or lack of it) failed me and I did not want to take all 3 up to the room at once, so we got into one rotation scheduel where 2 first came with me doing the double standards (phil way though). I nagged and nagged they to eat eachother but they pretended to not understand that particulare part ofcourse. The best I could do was the to 19 yo's to stand in bed ready to be dogged by me. I did my best but after 4 days not beeing able to come when me and GF did the sex (same pussy to long I get tired), it took maby 5 minutes of pumping both of them until I spread my juices over Joanna. By far not my proudest moment but it was fun with change in lady. We laughed and giggled a bit and they think it was so fun I was foreign (my pimpette informing me they only been pumped by pinoys so far, well I was doing thepinoy routine inthis case). I send them out with some nice yellow ones.

The third girl arrived and except from teeth problems she was a spinner. 20 yo so a bit older than the two frist ones. She claimed upfront to have some stomach issues as her period was due to arrive. I have had so many bloody experiences over the years so I don't care so much if it is ok to the girls (just make sure we cover the fuckarea with towels and a come in handy plastic bag). We went on but I sensed suddenly an oddly smell and saw some "redish" on my Willy. This made me loos power so I bailed her out with a barof chocolate and a yellow one. I hired a rerun with Joanna still waiting outside (7-eleven close to Riviera Mantion) and she was more than happy to partake. I pumped her up and in her best untrained pinaystyle she just lied very still hardly making any noise. I must say after approx a short week without ejaculation but still a lot of sex with GF (she is actually kinky) I did the next one in 10 min or so. Joanna was happy with a Tanduay red (they were by pimpette instructed to stay as many sessions I wanted so she did ofcourse not complain). So that was 3 girls in just about one hour (doorstaff having this odd looks upon their faces me going in and out with new girl(s) and the same).

Nr 4 girl is a bit cheating by me as I confess to use an old contact (Judith, 32 yo, Did the p e e routine on her before) and she showed up one hour later and I did my ejac nr 3 for the afternoon incl A+ service. Now the eve is starting and I have a break at the New Worlds Residence Club writing this. I have an 9:30 pm girl coming over after finishing her mallwork and then me and friend head to one of the clubs nearby. MBC or LA Cafe is dead to me. I took my friend before we had a break and it is far to smokey and I saw only 3-4's max girls present around 5 pm. I know it is a bit about luck in LA as some stunners tends to show up every now and then. I also told myself I never would go there anymore but getting this chance with a couple of days off from GF I will enjoy them to its fullest (our reason for going here was ofcourse gambling at the Casino, I might buy a t shirt or sth from there if they have as proof i actually been there).

Just a short headsup.

Pip Jaeger
02-05-15, 23:29
Don't give any $ until they are in your room and the service is done. From agency girls you'll often hear: "Panty's down when money down"; in that case, show her the money or set it down where she can see it (not hand it to her), they just want to make sure you have enough to pay her. Sometimes they won't ask until the deed is done.


If you don't like them, turn them away.There might still be a fee if you do that, check with the respective agency first. Even if there's no fee at least give the girl a few hundred pesos to cover her transport.


There is no need for the agency to scam you.You're in the Phils man, there's always a "need"! Exercise due diligence and be cautious!


It is all legal,Since when is prostitution legal here?


and many girls are willing to provide for those rates.I presume the exorbitant rates agencies charge; then yes, damn skippy there's plenty of girls!


The disappointment might come because the girl won't BBBJ, allow DATY, or will have crappy attitude etc.At the rate agency girls get, the girl better be open to everything you want her to do and be happy about it. If you have any special desires, even if it's just getting a BBBJ, then clarify with the agency before you confirm your order.


That is why Havana cafe is the best option. You can find a sweetheart who is just begging to bone a nice foreigner for a few pesos. They are horny and want sex so why not make a few pesos doing it rather than boning a local guy who is not to treat them nice.Yep, in addition to regular 100% girls since birth, there's lots of lady boys at Havana who I'm sure will gladly bone you. Each to their own.


lick their pussy, try to make them cum etc etc. What local guy is to do that?Quite right, not many locals take care of their girls. That's often how you wind up repeats and girls who fall in love with you the same night (could also have something to do with having white skin and a wallet full of blue notes. But I've never been able to quite figure that one out, LOL).

VicVeg
02-06-15, 01:48
Thanks for the critique PIP.

I would also recommend that guys new to the PI try a nice mixture of options. When I go to Manila, I try to have all these options working:

-picking up girls at Havana Cafe. It is easy to avoid the lady boys. And interview the girls to sniff out the pros and users etc. I have had girls get you to my hotel to then show you 'blood' on their panties and only offer up a BJ. I think it is pre-positioned to look like blood to get them out of having to do the act. The pros will try to soak you for alot of cash, so work out the details before you leave for the room.

-stay on or near Burgos st. It is within walking distance of GreenBelt 3 (where Havana cafe is, and the nice bars / restaurants / movies etc). There are plenty of massage girls 24/7 who will come to your room and provide extras.

-get on filipinacupid.com or dateinasia.com and line up alot of girls. Get their numbers and text them once you are there to set up dates. Meet them at Greenbelt, at the seattles best coffee shop. If it doesn't work out, or they are not to go to your room after the date, then send them home, and you can go to Havana which is next door. Treat the girls nice, and who knows where it will lead. You might find a real sweety that you will make a long term girl for you.

Having these options keeps your days full. Some girls work nights, so you can have lunch dates. Else, get massage girls during the day to pass the time. Enjoy!

Mogwai
02-06-15, 05:41
-picking up girls at Havana Cafe. It is easy to avoid the lady boys. And interview the girls to sniff out the pros and users etc. I have had girls get you to my hotel to then show you 'blood' on their panties and only offer up a BJ. I think it is pre-positioned to look like blood to get them out of having to do the act. The pros will try to soak you for alot of cash, so work out the details before you leave for the room.Is this the correct address of Havana?

Cafe Havana,
Level 1, Greenbelt 3.
Ayala Center, Makati City.

Hutsori
02-06-15, 07:24
Is this the correct address of Havana?

Cafe Havana,
Level 1, Greenbelt 3.
Ayala Center, Makati City.Yep, between the Starbucks and Seattle's Best and near the outdoor church.

Member #4387
02-06-15, 12:37
Yesterday At 11 pm my south SM Mall girl arrived for some quickies. I was almost out of juice (atleat the white one even if I tried cope with the matter and drank and ate a lot of pinapple juice / fruites). Nice to fuck this 23 yo again. I was happy to hear she tells me that while working in the mall only decent conservative colours where allowed and during workinghours (ex breaks) no tablets, phones or whatever was allowed. She showed up in uniform a greyishblue one.

I popped one gel pk of Kamagra just incase as I wanted to have her a couple of rounds. After doing her first once without any trouble, the second round showed signs of some blood showed on my dicky and a few mild spots at thebedsheets (it is my nemesis, hehe). It was now maby around 1 am so I created a white one telling her I was having plans early next morning even if my initial plan was to keep her overnight (with blood and no ass access it is a no go). So she left after a while heading for home.

2 am and high on coffeinpills (did not want to miss out a second of my time here without GF) what do a man in shitty Malate area do? He taxies to Exklusive (not far from New World Manila Bay). Place was on a early early Friday morning showing good vibes with loads of stunners both pinays and korean girls. I bottled up with one Balck label and one Absolute and possitioned myself in the middle of two group of girls (a table the staffs cleaned for me from "one beer nursing guys" The pinay group of girls by far showing the most interest. I saw one korean girl though beeing so pretty so I got in a way pussy locked (aimed at target) so i just had to have her. She was a student of some sort here in Manila and around 4 am we headed to my hotel. According to some inside here, I can hardly, in english, ask my way to the toilet, but I will adress she was eager to learn my unnative english and she spoke quite some herself even if I can proudly say not by far so good as meself (yes I know it is myself). As a good UN embassador i kept both sides of girls happy with oncoming drinks all nights just in case my korean girl proved to be to hard to get. I got a few numbers to play with later from the pinay group as well..

Back at my hotel this 22yo spinner(looking like some of the dancers in the known PSY video)did the north asian routine as japaneese and koreans do with the almost crying sounds during sex. I felt like living in a porn movie (I watch quite a bit of japeneese and korean porn) and I shoot my all blancos over her stomach. After this I was so tired so I just let her out of the hotel and made sure she was on a cabride safely back home to wherever she lives. She only letme pay a yellow note for her cab as she thought I paid enough for my booze at the club. Great girl and I will mostlikely try her for a reround any time soon (even if I have to be a familyguy from tomorrow on again).

Happy mongering. Atleast I am happy.

ShinShin
02-06-15, 16:42
I spent a few nights in Manila before Christmas. I have not been here for several years but been to Angeles skipping Manila a few times. I found the Manila girls acceptance of bare back is still the same as before. So prepare your own condom because they probably expect you to do it the natural way.

I got a passable looking girl from Manila Bay Cafe, no baby, wanted 2500, but settled for for 2000ST. I thought after a few years, the concept of safe sex should be catching on for these workers, but it's not. After a really good blow job, she just stuck my thing inside her cowgirl way, I had to pull out and asked her for a condom, she did not have any and told me without condom feel better. What! Ended up calling bell boy for an expensive condom delivery.

I got another one from Edsa Complex. It was really expensive and not worth the money, but once in a few years doesn't really hurt. Bar fine, drinks, and tip to girl add up to about 5000 pesos. She stayed till morning. Again did not have condom, she expected me to go natural again. Had to call room service again. Expensive deal so I made her go few extra miles like CIM, sixty nine, but no rimming.

Member #4387
02-06-15, 18:17
I spent a few nights in Manila before Christmas. I have not been here for several years but been to Angeles skipping Manila a few times. I found the Manila girls acceptance of bare back is still the same as before. So prepare your own condom because they probably expect you to do it the natural way
I know many will disagree with me but I have now for atleast 4 years heavily travelling in and out from phils. Done maby (I don't have an actual number but lets say 300/400+ ladies and many repeats and regulars). Never ever did I catch a std from here or bkk, Jakarta, Beijing, singapore, kuala (and by adding those numbers of girls we end up in the 1000's). Choose your girl carefully, stay away from bargirls, only go for educated students (who did not skipped their sex edu). I have had a few mishaps though, showing the girl was a bargirl, she did give me the best anal service bb I ever experienced (this was like 1 year ago), ofcourse I thought a bit about that as bb anal is more likely to provide you with something nasty than other holes. But I check up with my doc friend atleast 6 times a year (and if I wonder about something, no prob visting him even more). He is doctor and tells me to just eat certain tablets and my GF will never experience anything. Nice doc. Now I use his replacedoc (also a crazy guy and friend, my normal doc is in the wilderness of Canada), telling me STD (the normal ones) is easily treated. They have some newborn bacterias never showed up created in an labatory in Norway so those, in Norwegian labatory, making this difficult STD back in asia go away, this is powerful stuff. Not my concern as I bb girls all the time(not all girls are new as i have many repeats and regulars, i would wonder what my Cathay, Qatar and Philippine Airline girl told if i got them some STD)but many are. I encourage everyone to protect themself but that is not an issue for me as I, with very few exceptions, explore my girls as safe ones. I've had nearly 1000 or above (globaly) and once again the only one I catched STD from was in UNI in Oslo at the age of 20 (norwegian girl). But I stay away from hookers and bargirls (those tests are laughable at best haha).

ShinShin
02-06-15, 20:33
I know many will disagree with me but I have now for atleast 4 years heavily travelling in and out from phils. Done maby (I don't have an actual number but lets say 300/400+ ladies and many repeats and regulars). Never ever did I catch a std from here or bkk, Jakarta, Beijing, singapore, kuala (and by adding those numbers of girls we end up in the 1000's). Choose your girl carefully, stay away from bargirls, only go for educated students (who did not skipped their sex edu).Skogis,

You must be super handsome very rich, young and delicious Viking stud. For most of us ordinary guys perhaps even with some money, we still have no clue or opportunities or techniques to hook up with all these hundreds of educated ladies all with healthy bodies all over Asia. For most of us, if we stay away from bar girls, I think we would be jerking off in our beds every night.

How do you hook up with all these highly educated and clean girls on a few days short monger trips that most of us take? I think lots of us would like you to shed a little light and give us some of your precious tips.

Member #4387
02-07-15, 09:21
Skogis,

You must be super handsome very rich, young and delicious Viking stud. For most of us ordinary guys perhaps even with some money, we still have no clue or opportunities or techniques to hook up with all these hundreds of educated ladies all with healthy bodies all over Asia. For most of us, if we stay away from bar girls, I think we would be jerking off in our beds every night.

How do you hook up with all these highly educated and clean girls on a few days short monger trips that most of us take? I think lots of us would like you to shed a little light and give us some of your precious tips.Ahem if I am handsome or not others have to decide but I view myself as pretty average in the looksdepartment. And I am also a pretty ordinary guy in most aspects in life. But ofcourse having a certain vikinglook in certain countries arent a massive drawback I think. But I guess we are many inside here sharing this experience. If you read around the forum you will see other guys also very successful in their pickings but I might highlight "my" girls a tad for not beeing, atleast from my knowledge, bargirls or directly straight out sexworkers. I do some screening to avoid those girls but a few have ofcourse flown under my radar and admitted later they do the bar routine. Except from one (she is a firecracker in bed and the most naughty and kinky girl atleast I ever met) I write them off as damaged goods. So I feast from girls having atleast some edu (high edu or not they still have to work modest jobs normaly), they are not rich nor poor (phil standard wice), in short they come from the same startingpoint / backgrounds in life I would say. It is just enough to meet a few and by treating them nice they tell their frinds who get curious, they tell their friends and so it spreads like fire in dry grass. I guess normal girls not frequenting the red light districts of Manila simply not know so many girls working there.

I guess some of my girls meet other guys like me but I have a feeling it is not on a daily basis. They all seem and smell very healthy. I did experience once a girl smelling like somebody did die down there (rotten fish), then I expected a STD and ditched her. A swift look at them pussies and inhaling a couple of smells can atleast give you an idea what you deal with even if it is not an exact science (looking for warts, odd coulourscheeme of pussies, smells, anything at all looking out of place basically down at the "russian front".).

And my tool these days are FB. I feast from FB but earlier I was heavy into datingsites but skipped DIA relatively early as I ran into a large portion of bargirls or direct prostitutes who I as described earlier am not into for the greater part. I don't say you will not find them in other sites but they are atleast fewer and farer between and more easy to screen out.

So can others question my MO but it works seemingly well for me as to my totaly satisfaction. But if my girls are more healthy, wealthy or more educated than others I simply don't know as it will be hard to find out. Some out of my girls range from total nuckleheads (I am probably to but I am a friendly one) to highly articulate non rice eating ones. I do keep a few (the best ones) into rotation but mostly it is "wham bam and thank you mam" and never see you again. I pride myself in treating them girls nice no matter what and I allways without exceptions donate something into their purses. If they actually wants anything or not is hard to tell as we never discuss anything regarding money but very few refuses. If they do I sneek money into their purses as I don't want the word out on the street I don't pay for service rendered (could be bad for the jungle telegraph I don't know and I have no intention finding it out). 2-3 k is my normal donation and if someone is rushing things it would be me as I sometimes keep a tight sched (with new girl arrivals).

If I don't have a superb overnighter I like to start a day with a morninggirl, shag her, midday, afternoon, maby early eve and then maby one for overnight play (this is a maxed out day). I cut normaly these days one or two out to get some "me time" and just recharge the system. Even if I don't get older than 40, hehe, the system needs longer and longer recoverytime. Earlier days I could spray juices 5/6 times a day without problems, these days we are down to 3 maby 4 at max. Maby a couple of days ago was a neet exception hitting the 5 number.

So this is no rocketscience, we create our own path in the monger biz. The road chosen I stay at until some roadwork is much needed then I change into a better road.

Mogwai
02-07-15, 11:08
-stay on or near Burgos st. It is within walking distance of GreenBelt 3 (where Havana cafe is, and the nice bars / restaurants / movies etc). There are plenty of massage girls 24/7 who will come to your room and provide extras.Guys, I'm totally confused. When I lookup Burgos Street and Greenbelt 3 on Google maps they are certainly not within walking distance of eachother.

There is also a P. Burgos Street but that is not really close to Greenbelt 3 either. Help!

Kip11
02-07-15, 14:12
Guys, I'm totally confused. When I lookup Burgos Street and Greenbelt 3 on Google maps they are certainly not within walking distance of eachother.

There is also a P. Burgos Street but that is not really close to Greenbelt 3 either. Help!Yeah, they are certainly not within walking distance of each other. Is it walkable? Sure, if you want to be a hot sweaty mess walking in heat and traffic.

D Cups
02-07-15, 14:57
Guys, I'm totally confused. When I lookup Burgos Street and Greenbelt 3 on Google maps they are certainly not within walking distance of eachother.

There is also a P. Burgos Street but that is not really close to Greenbelt 3 either. Help!It is too far to walk, Mogwai. Take a taxi or a jeepney IMO. The jeepneys are fun and real cheap but if you're taller than 5'6 make sure you don't hit your head getting in like I did.

X Man
02-07-15, 15:04
Exercise will do you good. If you don; t like walking, take a taxi. The five minute ride won't break the bank.


Guys, I'm totally confused. When I lookup Burgos Street and Greenbelt 3 on Google maps they are certainly not within walking distance of eachother.

There is also a P. Burgos Street but that is not really close to Greenbelt 3 either. Help!

VicVeg
02-07-15, 16:02
Guys, I'm totally confused. When I lookup Burgos Street and Greenbelt 3 on Google maps they are certainly not within walking distance of eachother.

There is also a P. Burgos Street but that is not really close to Greenbelt 3 either. Help!See here:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/14.5629849, 121.0285859/14.5532101,121.0235975/ at 14.5589735,121.0265587,16 z / data=!4 m2!4 m1!3 e0.

Its about a 15 minute (1. 2 km) walk to Greenbelt 3. If you get a nice girl at the mall, and she doesn't want to walk (most won't as they won't have walking shoes or are lazy etc), then hop in a taxi for 200 p or so. At high periods, you might have to wait 5 or so minutes for a taxi.

LuvAsianTang
02-07-15, 18:54
See here:

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/14.5629849, 121.0285859/14.5532101,121.0235975/ at 14.5589735,121.0265587,16 z / data=!4 m2!4 m1!3 e0.

Its about a 15 minute (1. 2 km) walk to Greenbelt 3. If you get a nice girl at the mall, and she doesn't want to walk (most won't as they won't have walking shoes or are lazy etc), then hop in a taxi for 200 p or so. At high periods, you might have to wait 5 or so minutes for a taxi.From p burgos to greenbelt the cost is 75 p with a few pesos for a tip included in that. I was just there about 2 months ago.

L A T.

LuvAsianTang
02-07-15, 19:00
It is too far to walk, Mogwai. Take a taxi or a jeepney IMO. The jeepneys are fun and real cheap but if you're taller than 5'6 make sure you don't hit your head getting in like I did.You can also meet girls on jeepneys very easily but you can't mention sex or anything like that until you get off the jeepney I have gotten off before my destination just to chat them up if I got the look, and scored that way. If that doesn't bare fruit then all you have to do is get on the next jeepney in about 5 minutes. And yes, watch your head.

Happy jeepney rides L A T.

JPF
02-07-15, 19:25
I will add my vote for walking. Twice on my last trip I had dinner at Greenbelt 3 and took a nice 15 minute walk to P. Burgos St. If you go at night it won't be too hot and if you stay on the same side of Makati Ave. as Greenbelt you will get to see the young women jogging in and around Ayala Triangle Park along the way.

Mogwai
02-08-15, 02:50
It is too far to walk, Mogwai. Take a taxi or a jeepney IMO. The jeepneys are fun and real cheap but if you're taller than 5'6 make sure you don't hit your head getting in like I did.I don't know what your definition of fun is but I'm 6 feet so I cannot sit straight up in a jeepney (like most of us can't no doubt), all the time straining my neck to peek through the narrow window openings to see where we are LOL!
I don't mind walking, I walk quite a lot actually, but in the night time in Manila I'd rather take a taxi or jeepney most of the time.

Thanks for the replies guys. It's now clear to me that P. Burgos Makati is the place to be and not Burgos Street Pasay.

Simian
02-09-15, 01:27
I don't know what your definition of fun is but I'm 6 feet so I cannot sit straight up in a jeepney (like most of us can't no doubt), all the time straining my neck to peek through the narrow window openings to see where we are LOL!
I don't mind walking, I walk quite a lot actually, but in the night time in Manila I'd rather take a taxi or jeepney most of the time.

Thanks for the replies guys. It's now clear to me that P. Burgos Makati is the place to be and not Burgos Street Pasay.It is one thing to take a jeepney in Makati from P Burgos Street to the malls but an entirely another to take one across Manila, even during the day. Yes, if you look Philippino, fine. But if you look like a Westerner, you stand a really high chance of being mugged. Jeepneys are all the time being held up by armed robbers. And those armed robbers and their lookouts are going to pick the jeepney with the foreigner in it because he will be the one with the money.

Many of my friends were mugged in Manila (although never in Makati which is one of about 2 or 3 safe areas in Metro-Manila).

If you are a Western guy, then pay the money for the taxi. It is not much. And you lock the doors and close the windows, especially at night. Stay safe.

Red Kilt
02-09-15, 03:42
I will add my vote for walking. Twice on my last trip I had dinner at Greenbelt 3 and took a nice 15 minute walk to P. Burgos St. If you go at night it won't be too hot and if you stay on the same side of Makati Ave. as Greenbelt you will get to see the young women jogging in and around Ayala Triangle Park along the way.You will get there more quickly too if you walk, especially between 8 to 10 pm on most nights (except Sunday).

It's a pleasant stroll and you can meet the ladyboys and others in the strip on the opposite side to the Ayala Triangle (in front of the hotels). They are not threatening; just decline and keep walking (unless, of course insert big smiley).

Hutsori
02-09-15, 03:42
It is one thing to take a jeepney in Makati from P Burgos Street to the malls but an entirely another to take one across Manila, even during the day. Yes, if you look Philippino, fine. But if you look like a Westerner, you stand a really high chance of being mugged. Jeepneys are all the time being held up by armed robbers. And those armed robbers and their lookouts are going to pick the jeepney with the foreigner in it because he will be the one with the money.

Many of my friends were mugged in Manila (although never in Makati which is one of about 2 or 3 safe areas in Metro-Manila).

If you are a Western guy, then pay the money for the taxi. It is not much. And you lock the doors and close the windows, especially at night. Stay safe.Not disputing that robberies (armed or not) in jeeps and PUVs don't happen, but I think the fear of crime is overblown - http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2014-11?op=1. (In writing this I read several news reports and the Philippines wasn't cited. Latin America & Brazil are the hot spots.) I use public transport (jeeps and MRT / LRT) regularly during daytime hours and have never encountered a problem personally. I was with a friend who was pick pocketed in the street near Amazonia, and I know Filipinos who have been robbed in taxis and in their own cars. When traveling my wallet is in my front pocket, I don't carry a large sum either, and I don't use my mobile to maintain situational awareness. Most crime is petty and those criminals are opportunists who look for the distracted or napping. Of countries I've visited or lived in I perceived Italy, Guatemala, Mexico, RSA, Russia, and the USA to be more dangerous... far more than the Philippines. I think travelers feel the Philippines is unsafe because of the all the well-armed security guards and also because people speak English well enough to tell us scary stories. If one is overly fearful of crime book a holiday in Liechtenstein.

Mogwai
02-09-15, 04:06
I was in LA Cafe last night and bought the 3 girls who surrounded and 'harassed' me from the moment I sat down a drink. I had to pay something like 750 P for 3 Red Bulls. Geez, is that normal? I think it's pretty steep. I believe they even called it ladydrinks but I'm not sure about that (it was noisy).

Picked a 25 yo cutie with a great body (some baby fat, big tits, firm ass) but she was disappointing in the sack. I should have taken the very sweet and rather pretty 'MILF' (around 30 I think) that was part of the group of 3 but she was too skinny to my taste. Oh well.

Buko Max
02-09-15, 08:33
I was in LA Cafe last night and bought the 3 girls who surrounded and 'harassed' me from the moment I sat down a drink. I had to pay something like 750 P for 3 Red Bulls. Geez, is that normal? I think it's pretty steep. I believe they even called it ladydrinks but I'm not sure about that (it was noisy).Hate when that happens! Should have told the three hangers on to get lost. Yes Red Bull is expensive let alone as a ladies drink! Don't like their LD policy as it is suppose to be all FL. There are a few mamasans hiding in the background as well.

Mogwai
02-09-15, 09:21
Hate when that happens! Should have told the three hangers on to get lost. Yes Red Bull is expensive let alone as a ladies drink! Don't like their LD policy as it is suppose to be all FL. There are a few mamasans hiding in the background as well.And what exactly is this LD policy? Can you refuse to buy the girl a LD and buy her a 'normal' cheaper drink instead?

Mogwai
02-09-15, 09:42
I went to Harrison Plaza this afternoon. I expected something similar as Robinsons but Harrison is older and worn out and much less posh than Robinsons.
I was there between 2:30 and 4 PM and hardly saw any WGs. I have walked up and down the entire mall 3 times (it's not that big). In total I've seen maybe 5 or 6 WGs and they were all average or below average looking.
One slightly older girl (early 30's I think) acted as a pimpete / mamasan when I told her I was looking for girls between 18 en 25. She introduced me to two young girls (22 and 25) and they were OK in the looks department, more or less, but they had the attitude of seasoned Pattaya Beach Road late night pro's if you know what I mean. So I passed.

The 'mamasan' told me the best time to go there is around 11 AM. Then there are many girls sitting at the square in the middle of the mall she said.
However tomorrow I'm moving to Makati so I don't think I will check it out anymore this holiday.

WestCoast1
02-09-15, 15:16
I went to Harrison Plaza this afternoon. I expected something similar as Robinsons but Harrison is older and worn out and much less posh than Robinsons.
I was there between 2:30 and 4 PM and hardly saw any WGs. I have walked up and down the entire mall 3 times (it's not that big). In total I've seen maybe 5 or 6 WGs and they were all average or below average looking.
One slightly older girl (early 30's I think) acted as a pimpete / mamasan when I told her I was looking for girls between 18 en 25. She introduced me to two young girls (22 and 25) and they were OK in the looks department, more or less, but they had the attitude of seasoned Pattaya Beach Road late night pro's if you know what I mean. So I passed.

The 'mamasan' told me the best time to go there is around 11 AM. Then there are many girls sitting at the square in the middle of the mall she said.Spot-on description of the place. It would take a lot of RTTF to garner all that, but that's it in a nutshell. I'll PM you with something related.

Soapy Smith
02-10-15, 08:15
It is one thing to take a jeepney in Makati from P Burgos Street to the malls but an entirely another to take one across Manila, even during the day. Yes, if you look Philippino, fine. But if you look like a Westerner, you stand a really high chance of being mugged. Jeepneys are all the time being held up by armed robbers. And those armed robbers and their lookouts are going to pick the jeepney with the foreigner in it because he will be the one with the money.Let's rethink this logic. Let's say you're a seasoned Filipino "holdapper." You get to choose two out of three settings for doing your holdups, and the choices are: jeepneys, ATMs in less well lit and less well-traveled locations, or near Western Union outlets. Which two are you going to choose?

Yes, there are occasional jeepney robberies, but think for a moment about what kinds of people are most frequently jeepney passengers. Westerners? Well-heeled Filipinos who have their own drivers? Business people traveling between meetings? No to all of these. With the exception of H and me most jeepney passengers are those who can't afford other transportation options. They don't have a lot of money in their pockets, and they aren't sporting expensive watches and jewelry. I concur with H: the risk of being robbed in a jeepney is overblown. Jeepneys are loud, belch nasty fumes, have low ceilings, and make a lot of stops, but frequent robberies are not one of the major detractors. There are three good reasons to take a jeepney: they are cheap; they go places where other forms of transportation, including taxis, don't often go; and there are so many more of them than any other kind of public transportation that it's uncommon not to be able to get one when you need it. Otherwise, take buses, taxis, FX taxis, or the LRT/MRT--whatever makes you feel safe.

Member #4566
02-10-15, 09:16
I went to Harrison Plaza this afternoon. I expected something similar as Robinsons but Harrison is older and worn out and much less posh than Robinsons.
I was there between 2:30 and 4 PM and hardly saw any WGs. I have walked up and down the entire mall 3 times (it's not that big). In total I've seen maybe 5 or 6 WGs and they were all average or below average looking.
One slightly older girl (early 30's I think) acted as a pimpete / mamasan when I told her I was looking for girls between 18 en 25. She introduced me to two young girls (22 and 25) and they were OK in the looks department, more or less, but they had the attitude of seasoned Pattaya Beach Road late night pro's if you know what I mean. So I passed.

The 'mamasan' told me the best time to go there is around 11 AM. Then there are many girls sitting at the square in the middle of the mall she said.
However tomorrow I'm moving to Makati so I don't think I will check it out anymore this holiday.I have never actually took one out of there but I did scout it out for the purpose of reporting my findings on ISG. I would talk to the pimpete as you called her and see what info she may have. She could have a few phone numbers of other girls. I spoke to a pimpete and was told that Sundays is the best time.

LuvAsianTang
02-10-15, 17:06
Let's rethink this logic. Let's say you're a seasoned Filipino "holdapper." You get to choose two out of three settings for doing your holdups, and the choices are: jeepneys, ATMs in less well lit and less well-traveled locations, or near Western Union outlets. Which two are you going to choose?

Yes, there are occasional jeepney robberies, but think for a moment about what kinds of people are most frequently jeepney passengers. Westerners? Well-heeled Filipinos who have their own drivers? Business people traveling between meetings? No to all of these. With the exception of H and me most jeepney passengers are those who can't afford other transportation options. They don't have a lot of money in their pockets, and they aren't sporting expensive watches and jewelry. I concur with H: the risk of being robbed in a jeepney is overblown. Jeepneys are loud, belch nasty fumes, have low ceilings, and make a lot of stops, but frequent robberies are not one of the major detractors. There are three good reasons to take a jeepney: they are cheap; they go places where other forms of transportation, including taxis, don't often go; and there are so many more of them than any other kind of public transportation that it's uncommon not to be able to get one when you need it. Otherwise, take buses, taxis, FX taxis, or the LRT/MRT--whatever makes you feel safe.I agree with you skip, nobody wants the pocket change that you would find traveling on a jeepney.

If you don't feel safe in a jeepney then perhaps you should stay in your hotel and watch your flat screen and order take out pinays from online. Nobody is going to rob an empty pocket and that is basically what a jeepney is carrying. As for pick pockets, all you need to do is put your wallet, and your expensive watch, in your front pocket and be aware of your surroundings.

Just my 20 pesos, L A T.

Hutsori
02-10-15, 18:45
There are three good reasons to take a jeepney: they are cheap; they go places where other forms of transportation, including taxis, don't often go; and there are so many more of them than any other kind of public transportation that it's uncommon not to be able to get one when you need it.For me it's the third reason why I take the jeep. Sure, I can wait around for a taxi, or I can hop a jeep and be on my merry way to my destination. For short daytime rides of 5-20 minutes they're perfectly fine.

Hutsori
02-10-15, 18:51
And what exactly is this LD policy? Can you refuse to buy the girl a LD and buy her a 'normal' cheaper drink instead?You may buy her any drink of your choice. Or ignore the waitress and buy nothing.

Radical Guy
02-10-15, 21:21
Spot-on description of the place. It would take a lot of RTTF to garner all that, but that's it in a nutshell. I'll PM you with something related.Harrison Plaza is always worth a look, but I agree that it is rather hit-or-miss. I have found some terrific stunners there, but other times the pickings are slim. YMMV.

RG.

Soapy Smith
02-11-15, 07:38
As for pick pockets, all you need to do is put your wallet, and your expensive watch, in your front pocket and be aware of your surroundings.I carry cash, a credit card and a debit card, and a xerox copy of the front pages of my passport in a money belt between my undershirt and outer shirt, slung around my neck and hanging under my right arm. I carry only enough cash for transactions I anticipate making for that day. I have been pick-pocketed once--on the LRT. They got the only thing in my back pocket, a pocket appointment book / calendar. Worthless to the thief but very inconvenient for me, since I lost all track of my various appointments. Now I carry the appointment book in the money belt, and the incident taught me how to avoid similar situations on crowded LRTs. I wear a cheap watch, carry a cheap Philippine cell phone, and do not own any bling.

I often carry a small backpack with books and papers, and occasionally a laptop. In crowded places I carry it in front with my arms wrapped around it.

I continue to believe the most vulnerable places are near poorly lit ATMs, Western Union and Moneygram outlets, money changers, and crowded areas in the higher end malls. Just my $.02.

X Man
02-11-15, 16:31
Or buy a plate of over priced pancit. Good way to make friends since it's way too big for just one. Or take her across the street and buy a cheap plate of pancit. A few steps farther, and you'll find the shwarma place. In MBC, I often pay for my first drink as I order. That way I can move around. Take my drink.


You may buy her any drink of your choice. Or ignore the waitress and buy nothing.

Fast Eddie 48
02-12-15, 01:03
I carry cash, a credit card and a debit card, and a xerox copy of the front pages of my passport in a money belt between my undershirt and outer shirt, slung around my neck and hanging under my right arm. I carry only enough cash for transactions I anticipate making for that day. I have been pick-pocketed once--on the LRT. They got the only thing in my back pocket, a pocket appointment book / calendar. Worthless to the thief but very inconvenient for me, since I lost all track of my various appointments. Now I carry the appointment book in the money belt, and the incident taught me how to avoid similar situations on crowded LRTs. I wear a cheap watch, carry a cheap Philippine cell phone, and do not own any bling.

I often carry a small backpack with books and papers, and occasionally a laptop. In crowded places I carry it in front with my arms wrapped around it.

I continue to believe the most vulnerable places are near poorly lit ATMs, Western Union and Moneygram outlets, money changers, and crowded areas in the higher end malls. Just my $.02.To Skip post.

I just take a taxi it is so cheap here in Manila so many thief just no worth it for me to take a shitty Jeepney or train here.

Fast eddie 48.

Sanysh11
02-12-15, 11:16
Has any ne tried Nuru massage in Manila.

Tempted for going ahead with one agency, if you google it her page comes first or there is. Ph website with this concepts name.

Damage is around 2000/2500 pesos. Any review or pointers?

You can PM me or put note here.

Regards,

Sanysh

RumBuddy
02-13-15, 16:51
I just got off the plane a couple of hours ago and I made my 1st mistake. Stayed at the Manila Airport Hotel and I know I was grossly overcharged. $1300.

I asked one of the uniformed (porter) guys in the airport where the hotel was and he took me to a lady and she got a cab. I hope I will get smarter going forward. The took advantage of my ignorance. I deserved it. The hotel will take me to the airport fro free in the morning. I won't say anything bad about them, because I should have known better.

Dg8787
02-13-15, 19:52
I just got off the plane a couple of hours ago and I made my 1st mistake. Stayed at the Manila Airport Hotel and I know I was grossly overcharged. $1300.

I asked one of the uniformed (porter) guys in the airport where the hotel was and he took me to a lady and she got a cab. I hope I will get smarter going forward. The took advantage of my ignorance. I deserved it. The hotel will take me to the airport fro free in the morning. I won't say anything bad about them, because I should have known better.$1300.00 is grossly overcharged for one night. P1300 is not so bad.

RumBuddy
02-13-15, 21:19
$1300.00 is grossly overcharged for one night. P1300 is not so bad.It was Pesos and it was for the cab. I was a boob. Not sure why I did, I guess I was really tired from the 22 plus hours of traveling. $1300 dollars, I can't be that tired.

Free2
02-14-15, 02:52
I just got off the plane a couple of hours ago and I made my 1st mistake. Stayed at the Manila Airport Hotel and I know I was grossly overcharged. $1300.

I asked one of the uniformed (porter) guys in the airport where the hotel was and he took me to a lady and she got a cab. I hope I will get smarter going forward. The took advantage of my ignorance. I deserved it. The hotel will take me to the airport fro free in the morning. I won't say anything bad about them, because I should have known better.You mean you paid 1300 php for a taxi?

Buko Max
02-14-15, 09:09
You mean you paid 1300 php for a taxi?Yes I believe it was for the taxi ride to the Airport Hotel. It is a five minute walk from the airport! Rooms start around 2500 php. The porter and the lady probably got a cut of the 1300 php! Oh well.

RumBuddy
02-14-15, 20:16
Yes I believe it was for the taxi ride to the Airport Hotel. It is a five minute walk from the airport! Rooms start around 2500 php. The porter and the lady probably got a cut of the 1300 php! Oh well.Yes, Sadly, I was in the KFC and I saw a 2 guys that I saw in the Japan airport (Narita), I asked how much he paid for the taxi, he said 100 pesos. Took me while to get over it, but I have paid in life for the dumb mistakes I've made. I will blame it on the JetLag,. Like you said, oh well. They needed it more than me and I learned something. Don Be A BooB. I'm in another city right now and I paid less than 500 for a taxi ride, much further... but I have a wonderful lady as a front person now.

Radical Guy
02-14-15, 20:23
Yes, Sadly, I was in the KFC and I saw a 2 guys that I saw in the Japan airport (Narita), I asked how much he paid for the taxi, he said 100 pesos. Took me while to get over it, but I have paid in life for the dumb mistakes I've made. I will blame it on the JetLag,. Like you said, oh well. They needed it more than me and I learned something. Don Be A BooB. I'm in another city right now and I paid less than 500 for a taxi ride, much further... but I have a wonderful lady as a front person now.Yeah, don't sweat it. We've all made those kind of mistakes, especially in the beginning. I suggest that you spend time and RTFF to get info on potential pitfalls, some of which can be far more costly than an expensive taxi ride.

RG.

Tomasb
02-15-15, 07:51
Yeah, I came within seconds of paying that same price. A porter directed me to a lady with a clipboard who had the prices listed on an official looking sheet of paper. I had been looking for the yellow taxi meter stand but it was blocked by some vehicles so missed it initially. While I was doing the mental currency calculation, the vehicles moved and I saw the yellow taxis stand and walked over to wait on the queue. There can be a line sometimes but the cost savings is dramatic.

It can happen but don't sweat the small stuff.


Yeah, don't sweat it. We've all made those kind of mistakes, especially in the beginning. I suggest that you spend time and RTFF to get info on potential pitfalls, some of which can be far more costly than an expensive taxi ride.

RG.

Free2
02-15-15, 08:30
Pre-trip I set up a FB account and garnered about 160 friends. After 2 months, whittled it down to about 45 interesting ones before departure. Just deleted the rest. Goodbye forever.

Last trip all I did was a Tagged profile before departure. Got more contacts than I could handle and a few of which I will be meeting this trip. This time, only FB.

Met FB girl #1, 28,5'-2", no kids, not a total knockout but pretty, a great personality and slim, but not a mega-spinner. Her dad died last year, and no money was discussed / requested prior to meeting her. That usually grants an immediate expulsion from my life. So we are texting, setting something up. A dinner date is what she proposes, I counter with a dinner date followed by an invitation to stay the night. She accepts. Cavite to Century Park is far! This girl must be DTF!

My modus operandi is I never make any promises, all I ask is would you like to meet me? I don't say I am in love, I don't say I will marry you, just meet. Let their imaginations do whatever they do.

These pinays send some of the funniest text msgs. I see FB #1 is up at 4:30 am. I ask why.

"Because before I taking a bath I want to rest my eyes, I takecare of my eyes".

Ok, wtf!? I actually laughed out loud at that one. Wouldn't her eyes get more rest if she was asleep?

FB #1 has a real office job, entering data into a computer from 7:30 am – 5 pm, with a 1 hour break in which she sleeps (again the reason is to rest her eyes!

She agrees without hesitation to meet at the hotel (another good sign she is DTF) between 6-7 pm. Coming from Cavite, she is early, arrives at 5:50 pm. EARLY! Never happens. Geez, this is looking good.

In less than 30 minutes we had the first touch and in less than 30 minutes later we were naked.

I ask her to give me blowjob. She says she has never done this!

I enquire further. She was a virgin until she was 27 (1 year ago), had 2 boyfriends, 1 who got into drugs and the other had another girl. Oh dear, my deepest sympathies. She never gave a blowjob to either. Nor did either suck her pussy (which she declined my offer – yuk, says she). She has never been with a white guy. So many girls are full of BS, but I was pretty sure she was telling the truth.

So feeling like the king of the world I introduced her to the blowjob game. Her inexperience showed but she caught on very quick and it was a delight. Go deeper sweetheart, go deeper.

Then came time for the real deal and all the comments about "ow, so big, OMG". This girl was tight.

Dinnertime – I ask what she likes. The answer after much probing. Jollibee or McDonalds. This girl is amazing! As if we are ever going there! Never. I ask; Have you ever been to Shakeys, Max's, Itallianos, TGIF? No to all was the answer. This girl had never been into a restaurant in her life. Max's it was and she hardly eats much. No begging for more, nothing, asking me for nothing in the mall.

Back for round 2. I had discretely popped an generic at the table in Max's so I could last longer. I don't need them for what they are usually bought for, but they make me not just cum in 30 seconds. She was getting into it and actually came twice while fucking! What a champ!

Such a pleasant surprise – what a cultured girl, dressed in her work uniform, polite, sweet and asking for nothing. Just what we all want right? If I did not have so many other line-ups she would be my new fav.

We all have so many stories and some of us share the (humbling) not-so-good ones even though it may be brutally honest. We all have bad experiences at times, but when you find a gem like this one, I felt I had to share.

She tells me she has to leave at 4 am to get to Cavite to her job. Awesome! Not a clinger. Another thing. She does not do is send me these mindless texts all day! We all know how annoying that is.

I find out her mom lives in Tondo and she rents a room in Cavite, so she only sees her mom every weekend. The independence gives her the freedom to do what she just did with me. I was wondering what will happen now, is she going to drive me nuts and fall in love? I took a couple of going away pics, not knowing if I will be able to fit her into my schedule again.

I get this text message as she is on the jeepney to work: "Just kept your picture in your phone not on your facebook hahahaha. Because my mother is active on facebook and I don't want to see her my picture in hotel my mother and relatives so strictly. ".

Our liaison was a secret! She just wanted to be boned by a porinner. Well, boned she was.

The next text says "You know my pussy is so hurt hahahaha because your is too big haha".

That made my day.

Mogwai
02-15-15, 10:42
Nice story Free2! Thanks.

I have done some first steps on the on line 'market' but so far I haven't been really successful. But I can blame that on myself because I'm just too damn lazy I guess. It really takes a lot of time to go through all the responses and to chat with the girls.
I made up a catchy and humorous phrase for the 'what's up?' line in my WeChat profile, added 2 recent pics (and not even really good ones) and I was blown away by the number of responses I got. Something like 20 to 25 responses in 48 hours! Including some responses from professional massage girls (I was staying near Burgos) and even a few gays by the way.
So I can give this tip to anyone who wants to try it out: don't reply right away to all the responses you get. I suggest to wait at least 24 hours and then select the most promising ones.

After quite a lot of chatting with several candidates I could finally make an appointment with a cute 19 yo to have a coffee at a Starbucks nearby. She came with a 28 yo friend (only average looking) and it soon became clear why. This 19 yo was dramatically shy. She has hardly uttered a word, her friend did almost all the talking. Now I don't mind so much if a girl is shy but she was extremely shy and beside that she seemed to live in a different universe. With some girls (most of the time they are below 20) I just can't seem to connect because our worlds are too different. So I didn't invite her to my room which was a damn pity because she was really cute.

Another promising candidate was a good looking 21 yo student who was eager to come to my hotel to give me 'massage'. However she was busy with school and a part time job and said she would come back to me to make an appointment. By the time she came back to me it was already 11 PM and I just had a session with a lovely massage girl so I declined. And the next day I was heading for Angeles so she's still on my to do list.

WestCoast1
02-15-15, 17:24
I get this text message as she is on the jeepney to work: "Just kept your picture in your phone not on your facebook hahahaha. Because my mother is active on facebook and I don't want to see her my picture in hotel my mother and relatives so strictly. ".

Our liaison was a secret! She just wanted to be boned by a porinner. Well, boned she was.

The next text says "You know my pussy is so hurt hahahaha because your is too big haha".

That made my day.Excellent report big guy!

Soapy Smith
02-15-15, 17:31
Yes I believe it was for the taxi ride to the Airport Hotel. It is a five minute walk from the airport! Rooms start around 2500 php. The porter and the lady probably got a cut of the 1300 php! Oh well.Airport Hotel is a five minute walk from Terminal One, a ten or twelve minute walk from Terminal Two, but absolutely a taxi ride if you arrive at Terminal Three, as Rum Buddy presumably did. It sounds to me like he arrived at Terminal Three, and somebody directed him to the white ticket taxis. Relative to the fares they have quoted me for getting to Makati or Ermita, I would have expected the fare to Airport Hotel (right in front of Terminal One) at perhaps 500 pesos. How it got to 1300 pesos sounds like, as be Max suggests, that others took a cut, assuming RB was a newb with potential for exploitation. Bottom line, RB paid about 700-800 more than he should have. So he got gouged for about 16 USD. And Filipino leaders wonder why their country can't realize its potential as a tourist destination.

LuvAsianTang
02-15-15, 17:52
Nice story Free2! Thanks.

I have done some first steps on the on line 'market' but so far I haven't been really successful. But I can blame that on myself because I'm just too damn lazy I guess. It really takes a lot of time to go through all the responses and to chat with the girls.
I made up a catchy and humorous phrase for the 'what's up?' line in my WeChat profile, added 2 recent pics (and not even really good ones) and I was blown away by the number of responses I got. Something like 20 to 25 responses in 48 hours! Including some responses from professional massage girls (I was staying near Burgos) and even a few gays by the way.
So I can give this tip to anyone who wants to try it out: don't reply right away to all the responses you get. I suggest to wait at least 24 hours and then select the most promising ones.

After quite a lot of chatting with several candidates I could finally make an appointment with a cute 19 yo to have a coffee at a Starbucks nearby. She came with a 28 yo friend (only average looking) and it soon became clear why. This 19 yo was dramatically shy. She has hardly uttered a word, her friend did almost all the talking. Now I don't mind so much if a girl is shy but she was extremely shy and beside that she seemed to live in a different universe. With some girls (most of the time they are below 20) I just can't seem to connect because our worlds are too different. So I didn't invite her to my room which was a damn pity because she was really cute.


Another promising candidate was a good looking 21 yo student who was eager to come to my hotel to give me 'massage'. However she was busy with school and a part time job and said she would come back to me to make an appointment. By the time she came back to me it was already 11 PM and I just had a session with a lovely massage girl so I declined. And the next day I was heading for Angeles so she's still on my to do list.I think that before I left the cutie I would have just straight out asked for what I wanted, what have you go to lose? You would be surprised at how many would just jump at the chance to make some cash, even though they are shy on other levels. Once you got her into the room she could have been a sexual dynamo, or the worst case scenario you would be humping a beautiful star fish LOL.

Happy pooning, L A T.

Capt Munch
02-16-15, 02:18
And Filipino leaders wonder why their country can't realize its potential as a tourist destination.I am not sure that they put that much thought into it. You have been here a long time, when was the last time you saw the Philipiino leaders do anything besides pad their own accounts with government money.

From the Barangay Captains and up, the "face" they present to their constituents is primarily on how many posters / jeepney stands / trike stands and small trucks they can plaster their names on.

The Philippines Tourism Campaign "More Fun in the Philippines would seem to be a good one but I am also here. . . . I am not sure where they actually market outside of the Philippines. I know there are plenty of the Malayasian tourism ads on TV here.

I do like to tell the girls that since they are part of the Filipino population here. . . . that it is their responsibility to make sure I (as a tourist) am having fun. It is their job.

The rest of the time, just realize that the entire culture is busy trying to separate us from our money. I am pretty sure they do it with their own as well. . . Since other that family (sometimes) it is all "ME FIRST".

Munch.

Simmer
02-16-15, 04:28
Airport Hotel is a five minute walk from Terminal One, a ten or twelve minute walk from Terminal Two, but absolutely a taxi ride if you arrive at Terminal Three, as Rum Buddy presumably did. It sounds to me like he arrived at Terminal Three, and somebody directed him to the white ticket taxis. Relative to the fares they have quoted me for getting to Makati or Ermita, I would have expected the fare to Airport Hotel (right in front of Terminal One) at perhaps 500 pesos. How it got to 1300 pesos sounds like, as be Max suggests, that others took a cut, assuming RB was a newb with potential for exploitation. Bottom line, RB paid about 700-800 more than he should have. So he got gouged for about 16 USD. And Filipino leaders wonder why their country can't realize its potential as a tourist destination.They really do try it on. I wanted to get to Mall of Asia which I knew was well under P200 for a meter taxi (the return ride was P120 - not sure if taxis have an airport toll fee? ) Anyway, 10 pm after 21 hours of driving to the airport and flying with no sleep, headed for the taxi queue, too long, accosted by several uniformed men with clipboards, offered P900 for MoA, laughed and walked away, eventually found one that took P700. I knew it was still way too much but what else am I to do (go upstairs, doh! ) Got a chit with P700 plus P50 tip written on it. Halfway enroute the driver asks how much I paid, he shakes his head, and also says the tip doesn't go to him. It goes to the touts. Could've been lying, who knows. They prey on weary travellers and some of us weary travellers give them that satisfaction.

Changing the subject, after my last experience arriving with Philippine Airlines from abroad, taking 2. 5 hours to get through immigration and customs, it was extremely pleasant to arrive on Delta, have zero wait for immigration (literally walked up to a booth with nobody waiting), collect bags, and on the street 15 minutes later.

Free2: good report. Thanks for sharing.

GoodEnough
02-16-15, 04:59
They really do try it on. I wanted to get to Mall of Asia which I knew was well under P200 for a meter taxi (the return ride was P120 - not sure if taxis have an airport toll fee? ) Anyway, 10 pm after 21 hours of driving to the airport and flying with no sleep, headed for the taxi queue, too long, accosted by several uniformed men with clipboards, offered P900 for MoA, laughed and walked away, eventually found one that took P700. I knew it was still way too much but what else am I to do (go upstairs, doh! ) Got a chit with P700 plus P50 tip written on it. Halfway enroute the driver asks how much I paid, he shakes his head, and also says the tip doesn't go to him.
NAIA's reputation as one of the world's worst airports is based not only on its outmoded, inadequate facilities, its single runway and poor amenities, but also on the petty thieves responsible for the exterior services. The reputation is well-deserved. As I think I've mentioned in prior posts, recently I've begun using Uber as a means of circumventing the usual taxi mess. I activate the app as I'm getting off the plane, and usually by the time I've arrived outside, my car and driver are within five minutes or so of wherever I happen to be standing. Two weeks ago (the last time I used the service) the cost of the ride from Terminal 3 to the Fairmont in Makati was significantly less than Php200. For those who don't like using Uber, I suggest the white coupon taxis which charge a flat, fixed rated of Php330 from Terminal 1 or 2 to most areas of Makati.

GE.

Mogwai
02-16-15, 07:22
I think that before I left the cutie I would have just straight out asked for what I wanted, what have you go to lose? You would be surprised at how many would just jump at the chance to make some cash, even though they are shy on other levels. Once you got her into the room she could have been a sexual dynamo, or the worst case scenario you would be humping a beautiful star fish LOL.

Happy pooning, L A T.I thought about inviting her to my room but there was only one pro (her looks) and for the rest there were only cons:

A. She was terribly shy. There was hardly any conversation possible.
B. She seemed to be living in a parallel universe, which made it even more difficult to converse.
C. She never had a boy friend. Nevertheless she was not a virgin anymore so she probably had one or more one night stands.
D. She didn't seem to like me very much, which probably has to do with B.

So a sexual dynamo? Maybe because you never know but not very likely (not with me anyway). And usually I cannot get it up for a star fish and even if I get it up I do not really enjoy it.
I thought about inviting them both for a second but then I would probably have shagged the older and less attractive one the most with the pretty one only watching, while paying double.

Simmer
02-16-15, 07:37
NAIA's reputation as one of the world's worst airports is based not only on its outmoded, inadequate facilities, its single runway and poor amenities, but also on the petty thieves responsible for the exterior services. The reputation is well-deserved. As I think I've mentioned in prior posts, recently I've begun using Uber as a means of circumventing the usual taxi mess. I activate the app as I'm getting off the plane, and usually by the time I've arrived outside, my car and driver are within five minutes or so of wherever I happen to be standing. Two weeks ago (the last time I used the service) the cost of the ride from Terminal 3 to the Fairmont in Makati was significantly less than Php200. For those who don't like using Uber, I suggest the white coupon taxis which charge a flat, fixed rated of Php330 from Terminal 1 or 2 to most areas of Makati.

GE.Do they not use the 2nd runway then? I thought, at least from several years ago, that the smaller planes used the shorter runway which runs at 90 degrees to the longer runway I think. I am happy to be corrected, just curious. But yeah, I've used all three (terminals over the years and they're pretty crap. I found the most annoying to be the Philippine Airlines terminal (I forget which number) where you go through two X-rays, buy some drink airside, and then have to discard said drink because you're the opposite side of a bloody tensabarrier because you're not allowed drinks through the 3rd security barrier. What is the point of the 2nd security then? And maybe I'm ashamed or maybe I'm not but it was so easily defeated that the "security" was ridiculous. But I have been in worse airports, at least in terms of basic functionality. Rio de Janeiro, for example, was barren and soulless. Istanbul was unorganised chaos with no lines but crowds elbowing their way everywhere. Even Narita this time wasn't that interesting. Just a couple of tiny cafes and some expensive duty frees.

Anyway, yes I could have been a lot more pro-active in getting a cheaper ride and will plan much better next time. I must admit, this is the 2nd time arriving in the Philippines on my own, so my Filipino wife usually handles the negotiations while I wait out of sight. I *think* my previous arrival was a hotel shuttle so I didn't have these hassles. This time was to a private condo so no hotel shuttle available.

Jp Slicky
02-16-15, 11:46
I agree with GE.

Go for the more expensive white, Yellow not worth the wait.

Or.

Out of the doors of the airport turn left and walk for about 1/3 mile to catch on streets.

I have had 2 hour waits and 3 hour wait before I got a bit smarter.

Wicked Roger
02-16-15, 12:45
But yeah, I've used all three (terminals over the years and they're pretty crap. I found the most annoying to be the Philippine Airlines terminal (I forget which number) where you go through two X-rays, buy some drink airside, and then have to discard said drink because you're the opposite side of a bloody tensabarrier because you're not allowed drinks through the 3rd security barrier. What is the point of the 2nd security then? And maybe I'm ashamed or maybe I'm not but it was so easily defeated that the "security" was ridiculous.

But I have been in worse airports, at least in terms of basic functionality. Rio de Janeiro, for example, was barren and soulless. Istanbul was unorganised chaos with no lines but crowds elbowing their way everywhere. Even Narita this time wasn't that interesting. Just a couple of tiny cafes and some expensive duty frees.Is Centennial Terminal 2 and I am doing my best never to fly through it again. I use T3 which has is moments also I know but PAL takes the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) at times.

Worse airports? Rio is fine in my estimation, try Djibouti (climbing over the carousel to grab my bags before someone stole them), Saudi Arabia (3-4 hrs waiting line while the officers make / answer personal calls, get tea, wander off for a chat with a mate. Am sure we all have our 'favourites".

As for taxis, GE is right. But watch out for the scams at T3 with the privateers some of whom use the white taxi (440 pesos to Burgos fixed rate). Just say when asked if I like to "avail" - "yes is 440 correct" then they turn away and point to the taxi stand.

Makes tourists feel so welcome LOL.

GoodEnough
02-16-15, 12:59
Sorry Simmer, I should have been more descriptive. In fact there are two runways running perpendicular to each other. However, the airport is only able to use one at a time. Thus, only one plane can take off or land at a time. Plus, the ground equipment that at modern airports permits several take offs or landings per runway per hour is old and outmoded at NAIA, so such efficiencies are not possible. As I recall, the critical ground equipment was declared obsolete about ten years ago and was scheduled for replacement. Unsurprisingly, it's never been replaced.

What's needed obviously is a new airport in a new location, and San Miguel has proposed to build one and in fact submitted a proposal to do so more than a year ago. I doubt that anything will come of it. Compounding the problem of the air transport system is the state of provincial airports. In Mindanao, for example, I'm told that there are no civilian airports with radar, with the radar coverage provided out of Cebu or Manila. Some have contended that the dearth or radars leaves holes in the coverage, but such details fall well outside my ken. I do know that there was a long op ed piece in the Inquirer a couple of weeks ago lamenting that fact that neighboring Indonesia is spending hundreds of millions of dollars modernizing more than 40 of its airports to become more competitive, while the Government of the Philippines does little or nothing to improve its air transport system.

GE.

WestCoast1
02-16-15, 16:45
Sorry Simmer, I should have been more descriptive. In fact there are two runways running perpendicular to each other. However, the airport is only able to use one at a time. Thus, only one plane can take off or land at a time. Plus, the ground equipment that at modern airports permits several take offs or landings per runway per hour is old and outmoded at NAIA, so such efficiencies are not possible. As I recall, the critical ground equipment was declared obsolete about ten years ago and was scheduled for replacement. Unsurprisingly, it's never been replaced.Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Cross-runways at any airport cannot be utilized at the same time, it risks the aircraft running into each other. Runway choice and direction (pilots call it the 'Active') is chosen based on wind / weather conditions, and it remains in place for all aircraft to use until another runway / direction is chosen (based on wind direction / weather). At most airports, even small airports, you will see a windsock. That thing determines wind direction and speed (if any), and reports it to a system called ATIS. Aircraft tune a radio to the ATIS frequency for each airport and listen to a pre-recorded message that sounds a bit like: "Modesto traffic. Runway three-zero (compass heading 300 degrees, and the name of the runway) active. Winds from one-two-zero (compass heading) at 5 (mph). Blah blah". The system updates itself several times an hour if wind direction or speed changes the windsock. Only one runway at a time can be active (if multiple runways cross). If they don't cross (parallel), multiple runways can be utilized at the same time.


Compounding the problem of the air transport system is the state of provincial airports. In Mindanao, for example, I'm told that there are no civilian airports with radar, with the radar coverage provided out of Cebu or Manila.GE.Someone told me a year ago that there are no airports in phils outside of NAIA / Clark / Cebu that have runway lights for night landings nor working radar.

Simmer
02-16-15, 17:21
Thanks GoodEnough, I understand what you mean. WestCoast1, two runways crossing each other can be used together though obviously not at exactly the same time. La Guardia in New York is probably the most well known for that. I don't know enough about their ops. Maybe they use one for landings, the other for take-offs. Let's say one plane comes in to land on one runway, another plane can be getting lined up on the other. As soon as the landing one is clear of the intersection, the one taking off can start its roll. But it has a very short window presumably, because the next landing is already lined up a few miles out.

In Mindano the airport at Davao is supposedly 24 hour so it must have runway lighting. It has Cat 1 landing instruments (I'm not sure if Cat 1 is the minimum or the best) and at least appears to have radar coverage from a quick Google but again, not 100% sure.

As to whether any of it works is another question entirely!

Rogue5
02-16-15, 18:29
Thanks GoodEnough, I understand what you mean. WestCoast1, two runways crossing each other can be used together though obviously not at exactly the same time. La Guardia in New York is probably the most well known for that. I don't know enough about their ops. Maybe they use one for landings, the other for take-offs. Let's say one plane comes in to land on one runway, another plane can be getting lined up on the other. As soon as the landing one is clear of the intersection, the one taking off can start its roll. But it has a very short window presumably, because the next landing is already lined up a few miles out.

In Mindano the airport at Davao is supposedly 24 hour so it must have runway lighting. It has Cat 1 landing instruments (I'm not sure if Cat 1 is the minimum or the best) and at least appears to have radar coverage from a quick Google but again, not 100% sure.

As to whether any of it works is another question entirely!The main runway 6/24 is 3410 meters long and capable of handing all aircraft. It has precision instrument approaches to both ends. The crossing runway 13/31 is much shorter at 1759 meters and is not capable of handling any wide body traffic and would be considered relatively short even for B737's and A320's. There is only a non-precision approach to runway 13 nothing for 31.

The runways can be used simultaneously because they don't actually intersect, except for the departure path off of runway 13. The paved portion that does intersect is not considered part of the actual runway, it would be considered a stop way if taking off on runway 13. There are restrictions on the use of runway 31 for takeoff by narrow body jets so the best case scenario is for runway 6 and runway 13 to be in use at the same time. That would allow the most traffic volume.

I'm sure the air traffic control authority has specific rules for how they operate different runway configurations at NAIA.

Even Clark (Angeles City) only uses one runway. The old parallel runway is out of service, most likely due to disrepair.

It would be nice for them to build a modern airport, but doubtful that is going to happen anytime soon. The best bet would be to repair the other runway at Clark, or build a better parallel (the current one is actually too close for simultaneous instrument approaches) and then build a high speed train into central Manila from there. A nice new midfield terminal for passengers would make it up to standard with the modern world.

Rogue5

WestCoast1
02-16-15, 19:47
As to whether any of it works is another question entirely!Welcome to pilipines!

KongKing
02-16-15, 21:44
Do they not use the 2nd runway then?Yes, they do use the second cross runway for smaller planes like the A320. But it is operated just as if it is a single runway because they can't have planes taking off simultaneously on both runways!


I found the most annoying to be the Philippine Airlines terminal (I forget which number) where you go through two X-rays, buy some drink airside, and then have to discard said drink because you're the opposite side of a bloody tensabarrier because you're not allowed drinks through the 3rd security barrier. What is the point of the 2nd security then?Good question. Last week I went through the first two securities at NAIA T3 and bought some water and juice in the duty free area only to have it confiscated 1 minute later at the more thorough cabin bag search at the check-in gate. This was on a Cebu Pacific flight to Sydney, and the officials attributed this to the Australian immigration requirements. I suggested why don't you check and clear all drinks and liquids purchased by the shops in the duty free area, and that was greeted with a "huh?"


NAIA's reputation as one of the world's worst airports is ......... well-deserved.I agree with that!

I hold a Philippines Resident Retiree's Visa and holders, if they arrange early enough, can be met and picked up at the airport and transferred downtown. At least that happened to me a year or two ago returning from overseas. A sweet young thing from the Philippines Retirement Authority was waiting at the end of the air-bridge holding a card with my name on it. We were advance tracked through immigration, she called up the car on walky-talky and my car was there for me by the time I had cleared the bag carousel. I will know in a few weeks if this service still applies.

KongKing.

Member #4387
02-17-15, 01:42
Yes, they do use the second cross runway for smaller planes like the A320. But it is operated just as if it is a single runway because they can't have planes taking off simultaneously on both runways!That is correct, A320 with low take off weight is the biggest planes able to depart 13/31 RW. With strong headwind no problem for widebodies to land at the crossrunway but if it is ever beeing done I don't know. Mostly planes from T3 and T4 uses the 13/31 RW. As for getting a more efficient airport handling the best bet would be to build a new parallel 6/24 RW (away from the terminal buildings and away from the Resort World area). I see mostly only shanty houses and a few cargo hold (must be movable) on that side. Then we could get rid off long wait / hold for departure / take off clearance. Due to old equipment and logistic the ATC at NAIA require a hole lot more space between arriving aircrafts than beeing normal at a developed western airport facility. Last time departure with Thai we were holding no more than 7 arrivals before leaving phil soil. I did not clock them down but it must have been 3/4 min between the arriving ones without Thai beeing giving the take off clearance in between. An extra RW could atleast speed things up a bit when arrivals / departures no longer conflicting. Or atleast install some new equipment so ground handling, dep / arr could work more smoothly / effective.

Simmer
02-17-15, 17:22
I don't think I've ever waited more than a minute or two after taxiing to take off, or done more than one loop in the hold to land! I guess there are busier times of day than others and I just have been lucky mostly. The thing is, it's not a busy airport at all. There are plenty of *single* runway airports that are far busier. But then of course they have the equipment to handle it. I did recently notice all the inbounds circling (on a radar app) while an emergency came in. I think it delayed all the inbounds by the time it took to do one lap of the hold! When I say all the inbounds. There was just one within 50 miles of the airport!


That is correct, A320 with low take off weight is the biggest planes able to depart 13/31 RW. With strong headwind no problem for widebodies to land at the crossrunway but if it is ever beeing done I don't know. Mostly planes from T3 and T4 uses the 13/31 RW. As for getting a more efficient airport handling the best bet would be to build a new parallel 6/24 RW (away from the terminal buildings and away from the Resort World area). I see mostly only shanty houses and a few cargo hold (must be movable) on that side. Then we could get rid off long wait / hold for departure / take off clearance. Due to old equipment and logistic the ATC at NAIA require a hole lot more space between arriving aircrafts than beeing normal at a developed western airport facility. Last time departure with Thai we were holding no more than 7 arrivals before leaving phil soil. I did not clock them down but it must have been 3/4 min between the arriving ones without Thai beeing giving the take off clearance in between. An extra RW could atleast speed things up a bit when arrivals / departures no longer conflicting. Or atleast install some new equipment so ground handling, dep / arr could work more smoothly / effective.

OsakaGin11
02-17-15, 19:22
Airport Hotel is a five minute walk from Terminal One, a ten or twelve minute walk from Terminal Two, but absolutely a taxi ride if you arrive at Terminal Three, as Rum Buddy presumably did. It sounds to me like he arrived at Terminal Three, and somebody directed him to the white ticket taxis. Relative to the fares they have quoted me for getting to Makati or Ermita, I would have expected the fare to Airport Hotel (right in front of Terminal One) at perhaps 500 pesos. How it got to 1300 pesos sounds like, as be Max suggests, that others took a cut, assuming RB was a newb with potential for exploitation. Bottom line, RB paid about 700-800 more than he should have. So he got gouged for about 16 USD. And Filipino leaders wonder why their country can't realize its potential as a tourist destination.Never accept or offer a quoted price for a taxi in the Philippines especially when you are a newbie to the country and don't have any real knowledge of what the ride should approximately cost. Always ask for the meter price and if the meter is 'broken' ... just change cabs!

Soapy Smith
02-18-15, 07:32
Never accept or offer a quoted price for a taxi in the Philippines especially when you are a newbie to the country and don't have any real knowledge of what the ride should approximately cost. Always ask for the meter price and if the meter is 'broken' ... just change cabs!There are no meters in the white coupon cabs. As GE indicated they operate on a set fee according to destination, but I'm thinking the fee they quoted me in August for Terminal 3 to Makati was more than the 330php that GE recalls. What I was quoted was the 440 WR mentions--or maybe more. The only metered cab options from NAIA are yellow cabs, which have notoriously long waiting lines, or regular cabs, if you know how to track them down and don't mind dragging luggage to the departure level.

Soapy Smith
02-18-15, 08:08
The runways can be used simultaneously because they don't actually intersect, except for the departure path off of runway 13. The paved portion that does intersect is not considered part of the actual runway, it would be considered a stop way if taking off on runway 13. There are restrictions on the use of runway 31 for takeoff by narrow body jets so the best case scenario is for runway 6 and runway 13 to be in use at the same time. That would allow the most traffic volume.I have seen this combination in operation at NAIA. A couple of smaller turboprops, maybe Dash 8's, took of on heading 31 (to the Northwest) and less than a minute later a plane was either landing or taking off on heading 6 (Northeast) on the longer runway. I presume the smaller turboprop does not put up enough prop wash to be a problem for the larger planes using the longer runway.

Last August on the night I was supposed to arrive from Tokyo a Saudi plane skidded off either the runway or a critical taxiway near one end of the 6-24 runway. No damage, but the plane got stuck in the mud and grass and apparently blocked traffic for 6-24 for 12 hours or more. They continued to land planes up to A320's on 13-31, but everything bigger that needed 6-24 got diverted or sent back (including my plane) to their originating airports.

Member #4566
02-18-15, 08:35
Never accept or offer a quoted price for a taxi in the Philippines especially when you are a newbie to the country and don't have any real knowledge of what the ride should approximately cost. Always ask for the meter price and if the meter is 'broken' ... just change cabs!Sound advise.

I repeat advise I read on the board some time ago. ALWAYS use a moving taxi. The taxis that hang out outside a hotel or a bar waiting for a customer will have to overcharge you for the time that they are hanging out and not making money.

Wicked Roger
02-18-15, 14:22
There are no meters in the white coupon cabs. As GE indicated they operate on a set fee according to destination, but I'm thinking the fee they quoted me in August for Terminal 3 to Makati was more than the 330php that GE recalls. What I was quoted was the 440 WR mentions--or maybe more. .There is Makati 1 and 2 so the Fairmont where GE would hang out a lot is closer to Glorietta (my center point of reference) then say Burgos which is where I go and I pay PHP 440.

I have seen huge queues for the yellow cab and the Uber seems popular and cheaper also.

Hutsori
02-18-15, 17:28
Sound advise.

I repeat advise I read on the board some time ago. ALWAYS use a moving taxi. The taxis that hang out outside a hotel or a bar waiting for a customer will have to overcharge you for the time that they are hanging out and not making money.Watch out for this scam with some metered taxis at NAIA. The driver hands you an official-looking-but-not, laminated fare list and he wants to play make believe with you and your wallet. "Stop, please. Yes, really, stop. Turn on the meter or let me out." Before getting in the taxi make sure you ask whether or not he'll use the meter; he may ask for an extra 50 pesos, which isn't unreasonable. If he has your luggage in the boot already then your exit is just a bigger hassle. BTW, this was a moving taxi that had just dropped off a passenger at NAIA terminal 1.

VIPhawaii
02-21-15, 04:30
I arrived at LA cafe at 10:30 pm hoping to find a find cute gal that would accompany me to various bars and clubs before retiring in my condo. It never happened. All the girls in LA cafe are mercenary and treat this experience as work. They wanted ridiculous amount and are arguing over what time they will go home. Also very few women at LA cafe were remotely good looking.

I had better luck hitting Exclusiv and Zzyzyx. Had a good time buying girls at Exclusiv drinks (400 pesos each) and dancing / flirting with them. They were super hot IMHO. Once I finish playing there, off to Zzyzyx. Had a good time shopping for good looking women. There were 2 women that I fancy. After dancing and holding hands with both of them, I decided to pick the one that was the friendliest. Unlike LA cafe, no mercenary attitude. Yes, there were some negotiation on price, but everything was pleasant afterwards. It was 4:30 am. Decided to leave.

Overall, comparing mongering at la cafe vs. At zzyzyx was night and day. I'm a better. T looking young Asian American, and I felt discriminated in LA cafe. The half decent women there had the golden pussy syndrome.

Yet in Zzyzyx I was treated much better. Women were much hotter and they were easy to flirt. As a young decent guy with some game, your best choices are using clubbing for mongering over these "Thermae cafe" type establishments.

Member #4566
02-21-15, 06:00
I had better luck hitting Exclusiv and Zzyzyx. Yes, there were some negotiation on price, but everything was pleasant afterwards. Your best choices are using clubbing for mongering over these "Thermae cafe" type establishments.Good post! Forgive my ignorance. I have never heard of Exclusiv and ZZyzyx. Expatiate on these please. The girl that you met there, She must have been a freelancer? How much did you pay her? What do you mean by a "Thermae cafe?" Thank you and I again apologize for my lack of knowledge.

Old German
02-21-15, 11:54
Watch out for this scam with some metered taxis at NAIA.I found a much cheaper, but not so comfortable way to go from Terminal 3 in Manila to a hotel in the city.

As I left the Airport after 10 pm and went out, naturally many men offered to me "private transport" to the hotel. They quoted up to extortionate 1500 Peso! I used Manila Airport before sometimes, and know how to act. Normally I go to the departure level and look for a white metered taxi there. But it was extreme crowded and I calculated to wait for more than one hour. So I went down again to the arrival level. But same disaster, also many people waited for a taxi. The time to wait would have been surely also more than one hour. So I turned right and walked a few meters to the white Airport busses. They drive in any directions. I choose the bus to Pasay. I had to wait maybe 5 minutes, till the bus was full. The only disadvantage is, you must take your luggage into the bus, they have no separate baggage partition. But the prize is unbeatable and also its mostly much faster than to wait for a metered taxi. You have to pay 20 Peso to Pasay. I left the bus at EDSA street and took a metered taxi after a few seconds to Tune Hotel in Ermita. I paid less than 100 Peso to the hotel.

At Terminal 2 it sure the same with Airport busses, but there I never needed, because I never had to wait long there for a metered taxi.

Fast Eddie 48
02-21-15, 20:20
I found a much cheaper, but not so comfortable way to go from Terminal 3 in Manila to a hotel in the city.

As I left the Airport after 10 pm and went out, naturally many men offered to me "private transport" to the hotel. They quoted up to extortionate 1500 Peso! I used Manila Airport before sometimes, and know how to act. Normally I go to the departure level and look for a white metered taxi there. But it was extreme crowded and I calculated to wait for more than one hour. So I went down again to the arrival level. But same disaster, also many people waited for a taxi. The time to wait would have been surely also more than one hour. So I turned right and walked a few meters to the white Airport busses. They drive in any directions. I choose the bus to Pasay. I had to wait maybe 5 minutes, till the bus was full. The only disadvantage is, you must take your luggage into the bus, they have no separate baggage partition. But the prize is unbeatable and also its mostly much faster than to wait for a metered taxi. You have to pay 20 Peso to Pasay. I left the bus at EDSA street and took a metered taxi after a few seconds to Tune Hotel in Ermita. I paid less than 100 Peso to the hotel.

At Terminal 2 it sure the same with Airport busses, but there I never needed, because I never had to wait long there for a metered taxi.To Old German.

That no saving at all if you get a meter taxi from Terminal 3 to Tune in Malate is should only 120 p why go through all this.

Fast eddie 48.

Simian
02-21-15, 22:59
Watch out for this scam with some metered taxis at NAIA. The driver hands you an official-looking-but-not, laminated fare list and he wants to play make believe with you and your wallet. "Stop, please. Yes, really, stop. Turn on the meter or let me out." Before getting in the taxi make sure you ask whether or not he'll use the meter; he may ask for an extra 50 pesos, which isn't unreasonable. If he has your luggage in the boot already then your exit is just a bigger hassle. BTW, this was a moving taxi that had just dropped off a passenger at NAIA terminal 1.I am not sure this is a scam. There are taxis that are metered and there are taxi / limos that are pay fixed price.

When I lived in Makati and I needed to go to the airport at an unusual time or when I had a lot of luggage, I used to order one of these limo taxis using a service. They would be about twice the cost of a meter taxi but you could order them to your home and they would be on time and would wait for 10 minutes for you gratis and call you when they arrived. I don't think there is much advantage to taking them from the airport especially if there is a meter taxi available there.

When there is bad weather which invariably involves flooding, you are glad for anything that brings you home. How many times I was stuck sleeping at the airport until I could get a cab of any kind who would being me home for any money!?

Member #4566
02-22-15, 00:06
Watch out for this scam with some metered taxis at NAIA. The driver hands you an official-looking-but-not, laminated fare list and he wants to play make believe with you and your wallet. "Stop, please. Yes, really, stop. Turn on the meter or let me out." Before getting in the taxi make sure you ask whether or not he'll use the meter; he may ask for an extra 50 pesos, which isn't unreasonable. If he has your luggage in the boot already then your exit is just a bigger hassle. BTW, this was a moving taxi that had just dropped off a passenger at NAIA terminal 1.Yeah. I had that happen. The fare list form seems to give authenticity to the whole thing. I get out or insist on putting on the meter. However, if you strike some deal with the driver in advance, then he will try to get there as quickly as he can. If he uses the meter, he won't be too concerned if he gets stuck in traffic or takes longer since the meter is still clicking. So you may save time if you agree to his offer for a fare without using the meter. Better yet, make a lower counter offer.

Member #4387
02-22-15, 03:00
My last 3 arrivals into T3 I used the fixed price alternatives. From T3 to Ascott Makati I have been quoted the following prices: 700,1150 and 1650 php. In every case they proudly did show me laminated (probably homemade)"official" pricelists. I did never ask to see one as time is everything and when I see huge lines for the metered transportation I just want to get out of there no matter what as quickly as possible without any hazzles. They show me the pricelist anyway so they show they are "legit". Allways have to prepay ofcourse. I have found if there is huge lines at the arrival level also same will apply at departure level.

But I get a feel the fixed price taxies / transportation use different prices based on how long the lines are for I e metered taxies. I recall to notice when beeing quoted 700 php there was not many people around and I picked the fixed one as I allways compare against how much a hotelcar would costs to pick me up (1800 php)so in short not to bad.

VIPhawaii
02-22-15, 09:29
My last 3 arrivals into T3 I used the fixed price alternatives. From T3 to Ascott Makati I have been quoted the following prices: 700,1150 and 1650 php. In every case they proudly did show me laminated (probably homemade)"official" pricelists. I did never ask to see one as time is everything and when I see huge lines for the metered transportation I just want to get out of there no matter what as quickly as possible without any

But I get a feel the fixed price taxies / transportation use different prices based on how long the lines are for I e metered taxies. I recall to notice when beeing quoted 700 php there was not many people around.You are overpaying regardless of whether there is a line. First of all, I never had issues with long lines. It moves very quickly because there's always a lot of taxis.

Also I stayed in Makati condos, and it has only cost be about 130-200 pesos with meter. I insist on using the skyway (I pay the 20 pesos toll). Big time saver.

If you enjoy paying more for the same goods and service, by all means do it.

VIPhawaii
02-22-15, 09:36
Good post! Forgive my ignorance. I have never heard of Exclusiv and ZZyzyx. Expatiate on these please. The girl that you met there, She must have been a freelancer? How much did you pay her? What do you mean by a "Thermae cafe?" Thank you and I again apologize for my lack of knowledge.Google is your friend. As for prices, it really depends on how slow the night is and how much they like you. If they are letting you grind them and touch them everywhere. Also kissing a little, then they would have no problems making a little less than with someone they are absolutely not attracted to. Also it depends on how late it is. Towards the end of the night, they are more desperate as they don't want to take a taxi ride back to their provincial home without some cash for baby [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131).

Asian Rain
02-22-15, 12:51
It is a kinda scam "fixed price" service. If you turn right and follow, you will come to a big board which is the "legit" fixed price service. Going up further you end up a the meter service.

Last time I returned from overseas they hit me up as I came out. P1150 quoted to Greenbelt. Walked away and the price became p700. They followed me to the fixed price taxi station where the price became p500. Too late. If they would have given me the p500 price when I first came out, I might have used them. Good luck and enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.


My last 3 arrivals into T3 I used the fixed price alternatives. From T3 to Ascott Makati I have been quoted the following prices: 700,1150 and 1650 php. In every case they proudly did show me laminated (probably homemade)"official" pricelists. I did never ask to see one as time is everything and when I see huge lines for the metered transportation I just want to get out of there no matter what as quickly as possible without any hazzles. They show me the pricelist anyway so they show they are "legit". Allways have to prepay ofcourse. I have found if there is huge lines at the arrival level also same will apply at departure level.

But I get a feel the fixed price taxies / transportation use different prices based on how long the lines are for I e metered taxies. I recall to notice when beeing quoted 700 php there was not many people around and I picked the fixed one as I allways compare against how much a hotelcar would costs to pick me up (1800 php)so in short not to bad.

Hutsori
02-22-15, 13:28
I am not sure this is a scam. There are taxis that are metered and there are taxi / limos that are pay fixed price.

In my case it was a scam. It was the regular metered taxi one finds everywhere in Manila streets. This one had just dropped off a passenger at the departures gate.

Wicked Roger
02-22-15, 13:41
It is a kinda scam "fixed price" service. If you turn right and follow, you will come to a big board which is the "legit" fixed price service. Going up further you end up a the meter service.

Last time I returned from overseas they hit me up as I came out. P1150 quoted to Greenbelt. Walked away and the price became p700. They followed me to the fixed price taxi station where the price became p500. Too late. If they would have given me the p500 price when I first came out, I might have used them. Good luck and enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.I just tell them "is 440 pesos yes?" and hen I gesture to go to he real fixed price area to the right as you leave T3. Same every time but annoys me is that the real white taxi are now in the scam. Not going to he queue but causing supply problem and thus you must ay the inflated prices if you arrive at the wrong time and it is busy.

Ekspat
02-22-15, 14:11
Arrived on Saturday at Terminal-1 and got into a yellow cab. At destination Makati Palace I had 330 pesos on the clock, it was a smooth and pretty quick ride, so I gave him 400 pesos and all fine with me.

Soapy Smith
02-23-15, 07:09
To Old German.

That no saving at all if you get a meter taxi from Terminal 3 to Tune in Malate is should only 120 p why go through all this.

Fast eddie 48.He said he first checked the departures area and a long wait line existed. Then he checked the departure area (presumably yellow metered taxis), and the line there was long also. He waited only ten minutes for the bus to depart. Doesn't sound like too much to go through to me. Slow down, Eddie, read more carefully, and take time to smell the coffee.

Somebody else posted that the yellow line often moves quite well. That has been my experience. What looks like a long line has for me never taken more than 20 or so minutes. Of course, YMMV.

Member #4566
02-23-15, 12:06
Google is your friend. I do not understand that attitude. I remember awhile ago I was in a large city and I asked someone for directions and the guy responded, "What do I look like? An information center. Go buy a map. " That was before smart phones. Today I might get this kind of response. "Google is your friend. " Meaning that I can get an app that will help me with where I am going. You are not the only one on this board with that kind of an attitude. So I won't single you out. Somehow that is part of the culture of this forum. It is regrettable. We also have a RTFF Squad whose members ruthlessly patrol the forum looking for opportunities to hand out RTFF citations to transgressors. What petty horseshit.

You should see the Vietnam board. The regulars there have everyone afraid of sharing any information about where to find girls because places may be raided. But really was it is going on is that a couple of the members are trying to sell their services as guides. Thus they scare contributors into not saying anything specific about where to find girl so that mongers will employ their services.

Red Kilt
02-23-15, 12:54
I do not understand that attitude. I remember awhile ago I was in a large city and I asked someone for directions and the guy responded, "What do I look like? An information center. Go buy a map. " That was before smart phones. Today I might get this kind of response. "Google is your friend. " Meaning that I can get an app that will help me with where I am going. I think you are reading too much into what VIPhawaii said Pomp. He has 6 posts; hardly enough to draw attention as a board enforcer.

I understood from his response that he was referring to Google as the quickest easiest way for the poster asking the question to find out what "Thermae" meant. Nobody needs fancy apps or anything except a basic smartphone to access Google. Insert Thermae Cafe into Google and you get everything you need to know, even down to "how to negotiate with a hooker".

The reality is that Google IS your quickest way to try to find out anything for which you need at least some sketchy information. If it doesn't work, go to Plan B, which might be to ask a question on ISG.

Sonic Bam
02-24-15, 10:28
Arrived T3 Sat evening. I had booked the Oxford Suites pick-up at 1,200 P. They sent me a map of where to meet the driver in Arrivals. So, I waited at the appointed spot, and waited. Decide to go look for him and found him at the opposite end of Arrivals. Showed him the map of where I'd been told to meet him. Blank look. He goes and gets the car and we're at the OS in 25 mins. "Tip for me? Sorry, no change fella.

Checked out Mon 09:00. Meter cab from outside hotel to NAIA T3 30 mins and 152 P, plus a tip.

Getting through NAIA on arrival wasn't a problem, just a hell of a long walk through T3. Departing was a pain with the long queue to get bags scanned before getting into the terminal, hopeless PAL check-in (sloooow) and baggage 1 kg in excess of the 10 kg limit to be paid then the long walk again to the domestic departure gates. Saying that, been through worse airports.

Old German
02-24-15, 11:01
To Old German.

That no saving at all if you get a meter taxi from Terminal 3 to Tune in Malate is should only 120 p why go through all this.

Fast eddie 48.Maybe I was misunderstood. I don't look after a few or less peso more to pay for a metered taxi. I only wanted point out, that its a fast way to drive to a hotel, when the waiting time for metered taxis is very long. And in my case after 10 pm it was really long. The taxis arrived very seldom, so I estimated the big crowd and the arriving taxis for one minute. In the end my result was, that my waiting time would surely last more than one hour. So I took a Airport bus and later a taxi at EDSA. Thats all.

Member #4566
02-26-15, 08:36
I think you are reading too much into what VIPhawaii said Pomp. He has 6 posts; hardly enough to draw attention as a board enforcer.

I understood from his response that he was referring to Google as the quickest easiest way for the poster asking the question to find out what "Thermae" meant. Nobody needs fancy apps or anything except a basic smartphone to access Google. Insert Thermae Cafe into Google and you get everything you need to know, even down to "how to negotiate with a hooker".

The reality is that Google IS your quickest way to try to find out anything for which you need at least some sketchy information. If it doesn't work, go to Plan B, which might be to ask a question on ISG.Board enforcer. I like the turn of the words you use here. I am always amazed at the literary sophistication of most of our members. Keeping in mind that we prostitution seekers are characterized as abnormal paraphiliacs by the DSM 5.

But I cannot agree with the opinion you expressed. The number of posts is irrelevant. I googled "Thermae Club" and I got no generic description. Perhaps I had to know already what it is in advance in order to hit the nail on the head. On the other hand, German FKK clubs are explained in Wikipedia.

My point is that collegiality on the forum is best served by being helpful. That is plan A. Of course, that may not be possible. After all, The DSM 5 calls us a bunch of freaks.

FreebieFan
02-26-15, 08:44
I don't think I've ever waited more than a minute or two after taxiing to take off, or done more than one loop in the hold to land! I guess there are busier times of day than others and I just have been lucky mostly. The thing is, it's not a busy airport at all. There are plenty of *single* runway airports that are far busier. But then of course they have the equipment to handle it. I did recently notice all the inbounds circling (on a radar app) while an emergency came in. I think it delayed all the inbounds by the time it took to do one lap of the hold! When I say all the inbounds. There was just one within 50 miles of the airport!Totally off the mongering topic. But. Ayala Avenue and Makati Avenue actually used to be Manila airport runways.

Think back in the days of Pan Am, BOAC (who?) and others.

The cute little building called Nilsen Tower, that's now an ok restaurant with high prices, was actually the control tower and the terminal.

FreebieFan
02-26-15, 08:46
. After all, The DSM 5 calls us a bunch of freaks.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5

Free2
02-26-15, 10:46
Totally off the mongering topic. But. Ayala Avenue and Makati Avenue actually used to be Manila airport runways.

Think back in the days of Pan Am, BOAC (who?) and others.

The cute little building called Nilsen Tower, that's now an ok restaurant with high prices, was actually the control tower and the terminal.Holy crap freebieFan, how old are you?! .

KongKing
02-26-15, 11:44
Think back in the days of Pan Am, BOAC (who?) and others.BOAC? That was British Overseas Asian Carriers wasn't it?

Mogwai
02-26-15, 12:07
I do not understand that attitude. I remember awhile ago I was in a large city and I asked someone for directions and the guy responded, "What do I look like? An information center. Go buy a map. "A lot of questions from newbies or lurkers can be characterized as asking for directions in a map store.

Mogwai
02-26-15, 12:16
I googled "Thermae Club" and I got no generic description. Perhaps I had to know already what it is in advance in order to hit the nail on the head. On the other hand, German FKK clubs are explained in Wikipedia.

My point is that collegiality on the forum is best served by being helpful. That is plan A. Of course, that may not be possible. After all, The DSM 5 calls us a bunch of freaks.You should have googled "Thermae Cafe" like RedKilt suggested (not "Thermae Club") and then the first three results are spot on.

And as for the DSM 5 calling us a bunch of freaks: so what? Psychology is not a science.

If you want to be helpful to every newbie and lurker: be my guest.

Ekspat
02-26-15, 14:18
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5Thanks for the link, FF. Because I just wanted to ask what the heck is DSM5? Never heard of it.

Now, there are 18 disorders, which one is ours? I'd like to show off with at least one of them when I go back to home country.

Trauma? Definitely, I'm traumatized by Angeles City and the fallen angels.

Sleepness? Insomnia? Not too bad either, with those LBFMs here.

Any other, better idea?