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WildBillLewis
09-12-15, 22:20
To Wild Bill.
My frist trip tp AC is back in 1998 I stay for 2 days I told myself one a shit hole and I not coming back again but I been back 10 time since then, I totally agree AC is not for everyone either you like it or hate it PI is still a bargin compare to other country in Asia nowday.
Fast eddie 48.Like you, I didn't like AC the first time I was there. Like you, I am planing to go back. In fact, I am gearing up for a 100 day city-hopping trip. I have drafted a plan that includes Singapore, Indonesia (mostly Batam and Bali), Malaysia (mostly Kuching and Kota Kinabalu), Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines. In the Philippines, I was thinking of spending seven days mongering in each of Angeles City, Puerto Galera and Boracay. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions re: other destinations I should consider either in the Philippines or elsewhere.
Instead of Boracay go to Cebu. It's a lot cheaper and more plentiful. Of course the beach isn't as nice.
Like you, I didn't like AC the first time I was there. Like you, I am planing to go back. In fact, I am gearing up for a 100 day city-hopping trip. I have drafted a plan that includes Singapore, Indonesia (mostly Batam and Bali), Malaysia (mostly Kuching and Kota Kinabalu), Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines. In the Philippines, I was thinking of spending seven days mongering in each of Angeles City, Puerto Galera and Boracay. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions re: other destinations I should consider either in the Philippines or elsewhere..
If the hair is long enough not to be prickly but still short enough not to be a mouthful then that looks about right. But only one way to tell, which shall require them hopping on my face.
I've no objection to bald when done right, but a girl and her razor often are not up to the task.This is exactly why I do not like shaved.
Member #4698
09-13-15, 03:29
I am gearing up for a 100 day city-hopping trip. I have drafted a plan that includes Singapore, Indonesia (mostly Batam and Bali), Malaysia (mostly Kuching and Kota Kinabalu), Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines. In the Philippines, I was thinking of spending seven days mongering in each of Angeles City, Puerto Galera and Boracay. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions re: other destinations I should consider either in the Philippines or elsewhere.Assuming that banging girls is your primary interest, I recommend Bangkok (2 weeks minimum), Pattaya (10 days), Jakarta (10 days), Makati (1 week), AC (1 week), Phnom Penh (5 days) and Macau (5 days).
Then I would recommend adding to this itinerary certain other destinations based on your personal interests. For example if you think you might want to take a break from mongering and relax on some quality beaches that still offer some viable action on the side, just in case (Ha Ha), then consider Phuket and Koh Samui. I would rate both these destinations higher than PG or Boracay. On the other hand, if you are into no compromise, fantastic, drop dead gorgeous, natural beaches with a bring your own girl as your only sexual option, then consider Palawan (Sabang, Port Barton, Long Beach, El Nido), Siargao, some other islands in the Visayas, and Ko Lipe as well as some other southern Thai islands in the Andaman Sea. And lastly if you seek a little culture, then consider the impressive side trips to Ubud Bali, Mandalay & Bagan Burma, and Siem Reap (Angkor Wat).
The great thing about a 3 month trip is it allows get off the grid if you feel like it and discover places on your own and when you find someplace you really like, it allows you the luxury of staying there for a pretty long time.
WildBillLewis
09-14-15, 01:28
Assuming that banging girls is your primary interest, I recommend Bangkok (2 weeks minimum), Pattaya (10 days), Jakarta (10 days), Makati (1 week), AC (1 week), Phnom Penh (5 days) and Macau (5 days).
Then I would recommend adding to this itinerary certain other destinations based on your personal interests. For example if you think you might want to take a break from mongering and relax on some quality beaches that still offer some viable action on the side, just in case (Ha Ha), then consider Phuket and Koh Samui. I would rate both these destinations higher than PG or Boracay. On the other hand, if you are into no compromise, fantastic, drop dead gorgeous, natural beaches with a bring your own girl as your only sexual option, then consider Palawan (Sabang, Port Barton, Long Beach, El Nido), Siargao, some other islands in the Visayas, and Ko Lipe as well as some other southern Thai islands in the Andaman Sea. And lastly if you seek a little culture, then consider the impressive side trips to Ubud Bali, Mandalay & Bagan Burma, and Siem Reap (Angkor Wat).
The great thing about a 3 month trip is it allows get off the grid if you feel like it and discover places on your own and when you find someplace you really like, it allows you the luxury of staying there for a pretty long time.Thanks for the counsel. I did two weeks in Bangkok two years ago and got to Phuket for a week on that same month-long trip. I devoted twenty-eight days straight to Pattaya about six months ago (and had a banging good time too). I did Malate (LA Cafe) and Makati, Angeles City, Subic Bay and Palawan (El Nido, where I got bitten by two mosquitos and ended up with both malaria and dengue fever) a year ago, and hit Boracay (which I loved) and Bohol on the same month-long trip. I intend to hit Angeles City again, but probably not Manila because I prefer beaches to excessively humid cities. I'll hit Phnom Penh for sure, touching down in Siem Reap and hitting Sihanoukville for sure, probably for about a week (to combine the beach life with the girls). Koh Samui is on the hit list too. So is Macau. So is Hong Kong. Jakarta too. I see that Vietnam is not on your list, and there are a couple of other notable differences. Food for thought. And the nice thing about putting some planning thought into this months in advance, and getting good advice, is that it gives me time to digest, so thanks again to you and others for helping me make a good trip better.
PolyOrchid
09-14-15, 11:40
I have drafted a plan that includes Singapore, Indonesia (mostly Batam and Bali), Malaysia (mostly Kuching and Kota Kinabalu), Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines. In the Philippines, I was thinking of spending seven days mongering in each of Angeles City, Puerto Galera and Boracay. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions re: other destinations I should consider either in the Philippines or elsewhere.Ambitious trip, WBL. I used to love Jakarta but it's been awhile since I have been back. But, imo, Indos and Pinays are the most beautiful women in Asia, if not the planet. And for pure pleasure, you'll not find better value than PI or Indonesia. The added attraction to either of those places for me is that you can easily meet girls on the street as well as in bars or facilities.
Personally, I dislike Angeles and would substitute Cebu for it but different strokes for different blokes.
P4P is a fluid and not easily-defined activity for girls in these areas. But they all need dosh and if you have some game, banter, and especially, a good heart, my experience says you will find gems in the most unlikely places in PI and Indonesia. Less so in Thailand.
My home is Chiang Mai. It's a city I love but as for P4P, stay home. If you need a little rest and can either go celibate a few days, or bring a bird with you, you will never regret a visit to CM.
A city you don't mention in Thailand that I'd recommend is Hua Hin, a nice beach town a couple hours out of Bangkok. I've had some great finds there in the small bar area and it's a pleasant little town.
Vietnam is too much of a crap shoot and too mechanical for me but I ONLY have HCMC experience. I hear some guys do well there but I found it cold and clinical.
Unless you already have a fondness for Cambodia, I would recommend passing on it altogether. I had to spend about 6 weeks there this spring, in PP, SR, and Sihanoukville. Totally bored when it came to girls. However, the National Museum in PP and Angkor what in SR made up for the sexual wasteland.
Have a great trip and do send some pics.
WildBillLewis
09-14-15, 14:07
Ambitious trip, WBL. I used to love Jakarta but it's been awhile since I have been back. But, imo, Indos and Pinays are the most beautiful women in Asia, if not the planet. And for pure pleasure, you'll not find better value than PI or Indonesia. The added attraction to either of those places for me is that you can easily meet girls on the street as well as in bars or facilities.
Personally, I dislike Angeles and would substitute Cebu for it but different strokes for different blokes.
P4P is a fluid and not easily-defined activity for girls in these areas. But they all need dosh and if you have some game, banter, and especially, a good heart, my experience says you will find gems in the most unlikely places in PI and Indonesia. Less so in Thailand.
My home is Chiang Mai. It's a city I love but as for P4P, stay home. If you need a little rest and can either go celibate a few days, or bring a bird with you, you will never regret a visit to CM.
A city you don't mention in Thailand that I'd recommend is Hua Hin, a nice beach town a couple hours out of Bangkok. I've had some great finds there in the small bar area and it's a pleasant little town.
Vietnam is too much of a crap shoot and too mechanical for me but I ONLY have HCMC experience. I hear some guys do well there but I found it cold and clinical.
Unless you already have a fondness for Cambodia, I would recommend passing on it altogether. I had to spend about 6 weeks there this spring, in PP, SR, and Sihanoukville. Totally bored when it came to girls. However, the National Museum in PP and Angkor what in SR made up for the sexual wasteland.
Have a great trip and do send some pics.Excellent response. Very helpful in helping me shape my visit. By way of background, I spent a month in Thailand two years ago, another month in the Philippines one year ago and another month exclusively in Pattaya about six months ago. On that trip I had been planning to do Vietnam and Cambodia bet decided at the last minute to shift my focus to Pattaya. On the upcoming trip, in Thailand (having already been to Bangkok for two weeks, Phuket for two weeks and Pattaya for four weeks), I was toying with the idea of skipping those places and spending a few days in each of the following: Hat Yai, Krabi, Koh Samui (or one of the adjacent islands) and Hua Hin. I was also figuring on flying to Chiang Rai for a few days, then taking a bus to Chiang Mai, but your advice inclines me to think twice about that aspect of the plan. I have scoped out about three weeks for Thailand. It is now just a matter of fine-tuning the itinerary. I am happy to do touristy things from time to time, but that is very much my secondary objective, not the first. And that is why I am going to have to revisit my plan to invest upwards of two weeks in Vietnam. I might also have to trim back my plans for Cambodia. I was hoping for more there.
Anyway, I really want to thank you for helping me refine my thinking on the subject.
Medellin Kuya
09-16-15, 08:14
Had a nice night last night. First time I went out to The Fort. Man that place is nice. Me and this 21 year old with nice tits and ass went to Imperial Ice Bar. This is my kind of place. They played Hip Hop, RnB, top 40 etc. Girls grinding dick with their ass. Place must gets busy every night. It was packed. Get there around 12 or 12:30 am. Place is expensive though. Paid 500 pesos for 2 vodka / juice mix drinks.
My girl is bisexual or something. She was having a lot of fun dancing and touching other girls. Told me she wants to make out with them. While we were dancing my hands were wandering. Touching her in the right places. We made out a few times. At one point she says let me know when you want to go. So shortly after I was like lego.
We were giving the taxi driver a show in the back seat. Making out and me rubbing her pussy and tits. Get in my apartment, she jumps straight on the bed ready for it. Give her a good pounding twice, then one in the morning.
Just had lunch and I sent her home. Want to see her again tomorrow night. Tonight I want to hit up Black Market with a different girl.
Got to the love the Philippines.
Had a nice night last night. First time I went out to The Fort. Man that place is nice. Me and this 21 year old with nice tits and ass went to Imperial Ice Bar. This is my kind of place. They played Hip Hop, RnB, top 40 etc. Girls grinding dick with their ass. Place must gets busy every night. It was packed. Get there around 12 or 12:30 am. Place is expensive though. Paid 500 pesos for 2 vodka / juice mix drinks.
Got to the love the Philippines.For sure Fort area changed quite amount. I could not even locate some of the spots since so many new buildings. I think next time I will stay at Ascot there. Good action place.
Fast Eddie 48
09-16-15, 19:45
Like you, I didn't like AC the first time I was there. Like you, I am planing to go back. In fact, I am gearing up for a 100 day city-hopping trip. I have drafted a plan that includes Singapore, Indonesia (mostly Batam and Bali), Malaysia (mostly Kuching and Kota Kinabalu), Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines. In the Philippines, I was thinking of spending seven days mongering in each of Angeles City, Puerto Galera and Boracay. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions re: other destinations I should consider either in the Philippines or elsewhere.To Wild Bill.
Wow 100 days wish I have can do that just return on my 7 week business trip mostly in China and Hong Kong only spend 4 days in Manila and AC and 5 days in Bangkok and Pattaya, if your trip is mainly for mongering then Thailand, pi and Indonesia is a must do side trip to Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia and Macau many interesting place to visit not the best country for mongering.
Fast eddie 48.
To Wild Bill.
Wow 100 days wish I have can do that just return on my 7 week business trip mostly in China and Hong Kong only spend 4 days in Manila and AC and 5 days in Bangkok and Pattaya, if your trip is mainly for mongering then Thailand, pi and Indonesia is a must do side trip to Cambodia, Vietnam, Malaysia and Macau many interesting place to visit not the best country for mongering.
Fast eddie 48.I got 3 weeks starting the day after Christmas, I think spend New Years in Manila, Makati, maybe stay at ascot for for New Years then head out to AC? All up in the air, I'm RTFF, but any and all Help or ideas on hotels and trip itinerary would be great full, first time time to Phils but seasoned traveler, price and budget not really a problem, but also love value trips! Thank to any help ideas! As a lot of travelers I like to be in middle of action! Is Phils like Latin America as far as no action at New Years if so how long? Seen a video for New Years in Manila it looks out of control!
BrainDrain
09-17-15, 08:43
Against the better advice of myself and the forum I lined up a Tagged girl to meet me at the airport last week. No Skype or phone interview, just lots of facebook messaging. Just felt she was honest. Profile pics seemed 'normal'.
Anyway, my flight arrived late, she was still waiting at NAIA. Soon we were on our way to the hotel. IN the cab we had plenty of time to get to know each other and holding hands. By the time we got to the hotel she was all warmed up and ready to go. She was quite a performer and enjoyed giving me a serious rimming.
Next morning she was out to work by 9 am, returned at 6:30 pm after her work. The benefit of this is obvious. I was able to work. AFter lunch I did do a lap of Robinsons Malate, bought some not so potent knockoff Viagra, saw a few friendly girls in the mall who were working the area. Didn't enquire as to price. Collected he offered phone number from the young female pizza vendor. My previous experience in Cebu of bringing a girl back to the room during the day was just too stressful with all of the tell tale signs around the room.
Next day airport girl was off to work again by 9 and I said farewell as I was heading out of town. Gave her 5. 5 k for the two full nights of GFE.
At 10 am second girl from Tagged arrived and was ready to give me her version of a going over before my late checkout. SHe had travelled up from Cavite, bus then taxi. Nice shag but just a little too automated for me. 2 k and out by 2 pm.
On the day I was due to fly out, I arranged for airport girl to complete the journey with me and see me off. I managed one last night with her at an Pasay hotel.
The pinay really knows how to make you want them more and more. They really are very addictive.
Yes. I first went to the PI in 1982 with the USAF and here I am 30+ years later still banging those little hotties with their firm tummies, heart-shaped asses, willing mouths and tiny twats. I'm still planning on retiring there in 2022.
The pinay really knows how to make you want them more and more. They really are very addictive..
BrainDrain
09-18-15, 01:39
Yes. I first went to the PI in 1982 with the USAF and here I am 30+ years later still banging those little hotties with their firm tummies, heart-shaped asses, willing mouths and tiny twats. I'm still planning on retiring there in 2022.
.The funny thing is as we age, the pinay I find are still 22 years old.
Medellin Kuya
09-18-15, 04:52
Yesterday went to play tennis around Santa Messa Station / Poly Tech University.
Holy shit, now this area is off the beaten track. I was getting eye fucked and doubled take left and right.
Foreigners especially young whites don't be coming out here much. I love areas around University. Tingling with movement and activity.
Filipina University girls look so damn young. Good area to try and day game. Have to search a bit to find the gems, but the experience is worth it IMO.
Met up with the 21 year old I met the other night. Man she got a nice fucking body but she is kind of annoying during sex because she always wants me to finish after like 5-10 minutes. WTF Hell naw. Trying to smash 20-30 minutes at least. LOL.
I was tired as shit from playing tennis and didn't want to go clubbing with her. Just decided to go to a restaurant. Tried out the Indian / Middle Eastern joint called Hussien Kebab. Pretty good Indian food. Pricey though. Paid 1,600 pesos for me and my girls curry dishes and drinks.
Have a girl coming from Bataan tonight. She sent me a message yesterday after seeing a jeepney pic I took saying OMG I have to meet you. I was like we can arrange that. She was like where I am going to stay, I told her I have an extra tent for her under the bridge LOL.
Made a quick stop-over in Manila recently enroute to the states. Stayed at Lotus Garden in Ermita for two nights. Booked through Expedia with a king size bed guaranteed. When I checked in they tried to put me in a room with two doubles. Told them that won't work for me so they upgraded me to a premier room with a big bed. Score. Overall hotel is a 2-3 star but I like the area so didn't mind.
Had a meeting lined up with girl I had been chatting up on DIA, so called her but turned out she wasn't "feeling good". She asked me if we could meet tomorrow and I told her I'd call her. Yea right. So hit MBC and was pleasantly surprised. The place was totally packed with chicas and it was a pretty good lineup. I was expecting pretty slim pickings based on previous reports. As always in MBC the girls start hitting on you pretty quickly. Had to rebuff a few and enjoy the scenery for a while. Finally a tall, slim Filly sits down and starts chatting me up (call her P), we have a good conversation and company for a while. I cut out for a while to get some food and tell her I'll be back if she's still here. Come back later and sure enough, she's still there with two of her friends. A short spinner (call her V) and a very pretty slim lady (call her S). So we all start partying, go upstairs at MBC for the music and pool, have a good time. We realize it's like 3 am and they all ask me if they can go back to the hotel with me. Do they even have to ask? Of course I tell them. Back to the room and it seems like they all want to be first. Tough decisions. V and I go jump in the shower. She had been telling me all night how much she likes to give blowjobs and she did not disappoint. She's got a tongue ring so that was fun. We finally got on the floor in the shower and I let her have her way with me. She was a bit too hairy for my liking but she liked to ride and was a good fuck. We get cleaned up and I jump in bed next to P. She wastes no time bringing me back to life, lets me finger her and play with her ass and tits then she slides me in from behind. Very nice. I go for a while longer this time with 3 of us in the bed. S is in the shower now. And it was fucking great. I finally pass out after that, then wake up in the morning to 3 chicks in bed with me. How often does that happen? So P and V have to go. We say our farewells and I give them both 3500 PHP and not a word is said about money. So now it's me and S, and I'm pretty happy I waited. She has a killer body. Could not tell she had a kid except for some soft skin around her belly button. No belly, still tight. And an absolutely beautiful pussy. I munched on her all morning and she loved every minute. We had a great time. When she said 'fuck me now' I was happy to oblige. Right before lunch she told me she had to go see her kid and asked me if she could come back later. Hell yea she can come back later! So she goes out for a couple hours, I get some food and go back to sleep. She comes back later that afternoon and we go out for a while, but she tells me she just wants to go back to the hotel and stay there for the night. So more of the same with her during the night. I still can't get that beautiful pussy out of my mind. Did not see the other two girls but who knows, may see them next trip.
Overall a good quick trip. And the big bed came in handy!
JB.
Hi,
I will be in Manila on Saturday March 26th 2016 for one night only. I am staying in Emrita so a visit to Manila Bay Cafe is planned. However it is the Easter weekend and I am a little worried that most of the girls will be with their families at this time of the year and MBC will be a little empty. Would I be better if I spent my time in Makati.
Why don't you go to LA cafe in the early evening (it's open 24/7). If things are looking slow, then hop in a taxi and go to EDSA or Makati when those bars are opening about 8 ish.
Hi,
I will be in Manila on Saturday March 26th 2016 for one night only. I am staying in Emrita so a visit to Manila Bay Cafe is planned. However it is the Easter weekend and I am a little worried that most of the girls will be with their families at this time of the year and MBC will be a little empty. Would I be better if I spent my time in Makati.
FreebieFan
09-24-15, 03:51
Yes. I first went to the PI in 1982 with the USAF and here I am 30+ years later still banging those little hotties with their firm tummies, heart-shaped asses, willing mouths and tiny twats. I'm still planning on retiring there in 2022.
.My first trip was probably in 1982 also. Good fun trip when the majority of my new found friends were anywhere from 20-25. And here we all are, many years later and my friends are still 20-25. . Saw a few "old friends " on some site called Twoo the other days and girls I was banging are all over 30/35/ even one cute one was 40. When I knew her she was 24.
In the mongering world, we are all Dorian Grays.
In fact next time I'm in Burgos and I get the Hi, where you from, where you stay how long you here" question from a 22 year old, I think my new name will be Dorian Gray. Seems appropriate.
Key Master
09-24-15, 03:52
Hi,
I will be in Manila on Saturday March 26th 2016 for one night only. I am staying in Emrita so a visit to Manila Bay Cafe is planned. However it is the Easter weekend and I am a little worried that most of the girls will be with their families at this time of the year and MBC will be a little empty. Would I be better if I spent my time in Makati.This is a big holiday for the Catholics. I wouldn't expect much attendance anywhere. Trying to decide between LA Cafe and Makati personally to me is irrelevant. You can go to either one from each other in a metered taxi using the meter for relatively cheap. It could take 15-20 minutes in easy traffic or longer with traffic. Not sure if you will find much traffic on that weekend or not.
Hi,
I will be in Manila on Saturday March 26th 2016 for one night only. I am staying in Emrita so a visit to Manila Bay Cafe is planned. However it is the Easter weekend and I am a little worried that most of the girls will be with their families at this time of the year and MBC will be a little empty. Would I be better if I spent my time in Makati.There will still be options available for you in many places but remember that the girls will be the second or third tier girls who are always left out during the first round.
The popular aka hot aka most attractive girls all have sufficient cash resources to take the 3 or 4 days off so they are home with their families during Easter, as will the regular non P4 P girls. In all my time living here (18 years), Easter (or Holy Week) is extremely quiet and Manila is like a ghost town.
GoodEnough
09-24-15, 13:21
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/538092/news/nation/authorities-probing-laglag-bala-extort-modus-at-naia
I encourage all expats coming here to read this and to think twice about checking bags through. Evidently the latest scale involves inserting a couple of bullets into passengers' luggage and then "discovering" the contraband through x-ray screening. Passengers are then offered the chance to pay a bribe to have the incident forgotten or to go to a jail conveniently located in the airport.
GE.
Thanks, GE. I printed this and put it in my luggage. It might be easier to pay the 500 P but I wouldn't want the authorities to have it on record.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/538092/news/nation/authorities-probing-laglag-bala-extort-modus-at-naia
I encourage all expats coming here to read this and to think twice about checking bags through. Evidently the latest scale involves inserting a couple of bullets into passengers' luggage and then "discovering" the contraband through x-ray screening. Passengers are then offered the chance to pay a bribe to have the incident forgotten or to go to a jail conveniently located in the airport.
GE..
GoodEnough
09-24-15, 21:52
Thanks, GE. I printed this and put it in my luggage. It might be easier to pay the 500 P but I wouldn't want the authorities to have it on record.
.I use NAIA frequently, and I never check bags. Prior to being screened I watch my bag as it starts through x-ray and then immediately pick it up on the other side, in an attempt to limit the opportunity of the airport folks to mess with it. It's important here to remain continuously vigilant and suspicious. In light of the current scam I'm wondering if I should purchase a carry-on with no accessible external compartments.
I've been here for more than a decade now, and it seems to me that the scams and other dangers are becoming more numerous.
GE.
FreebieFan
09-25-15, 01:46
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/538092/news/nation/authorities-probing-laglag-bala-extort-modus-at-naia
I encourage all expats coming here to read this and to think twice about checking bags through. Evidently the latest scale involves inserting a couple of bullets into passengers' luggage and then "discovering" the contraband through x-ray screening. Passengers are then offered the chance to pay a bribe to have the incident forgotten or to go to a jail conveniently located in the airport.
GE.Saw the story, but remember, that this type of thing is usually a Pinoy on Pinoy type crime. Most know that expats are not shy to shout and scream if they see something wrong and of course to get the phone out and start recording at the earliest instance.
However your advice about watching your bag is very well delivered. A few years ago a visiting Governor claimed to have lost a bag with a lot of money between the bag going in the xray machine and coming out of it. I always remember to watch it like a hawk and will not face away from the machine for the pat down. Even though if you look, sometimes the foot marks indicate you would be facing away for pat down.
I use NAIA frequently, and I never check bags. Prior to being screened I watch my bag as it starts through x-ray and then immediately pick it up on the other side, in an attempt to limit the opportunity of the airport folks to mess with it. It's important here to remain continuously vigilant and suspicious. In light of the current scam I'm wondering if I should purchase a carry-on with no accessible external compartments.
I've been here for more than a decade now, and it seems to me that the scams and other dangers are becoming more numerous.
GE.Another scam is the airport screening staff surreptitiously putting a very small bag of powder or crystals on the luggage tray as it passes through X-ray. Then after it has passed through the Xray machine, they raise a ruckus and drag you off to a small room and offer the typical alternatives of being handed to authorities or paying an "on the spot fine".
You need to watch your tray very carefully. As soon as it exits the X-ray machine, if there are any "extras" on the tray, immediately and strongly state that the object is not yours before the staff have the opportunity to say anything. It is very easy for staff to slip a small plastic bag onto the tray.
Another type of crime that is increasing on overnight flights to/from China and Hong Kong is that individuals and gangs steal from bags in the overhead lockers whilst passenger are asleep. They steal cameras, laptops, cash and other valuables. I always lock my bags when they are in the overhead lockers.
I am not paranoid or scaremongering - just taking sensible precautions. Forewarned is forearmed!
Ikksman
I am confused on which x-Ray machine is this done on. On departures you have to x-ray all bags at the entrance of the building, is it this one? Or after check-in you go thru a security point and x-ray your carry-on, is it this one?
Then on arrivals after getting your luggage you go through "customs" nothing to declare line and they can pull you over for a search. Any problems here?
GoodEnough
09-25-15, 04:38
I am confused on which x-Ray machine is this done on. On departures you have to x-ray all bags at the entrance of the building, is it this one? Or after check-in you go thru a security point and x-ray your carry-on, is it this one?
Then on arrivals after getting your luggage you go through "customs" nothing to declare line and they can pull you over for a search. Any problems here?Evidently the scam is pulled as you put your bags through x-ray either while entering the terminal or going through screening yet again to go to the gates. One victim said that as his stuff was coming out in the belt, a security person called to him to come over for a conversation, thereby distracting him from looking at his bag. While the passenger was distracted, another security guy slipped one or two bullets into the bag, and then the fun began. The guy who recounted this story spent five nights or so in jail after refusing to pay the Php30,000 demanded.
I too never check bags and I keep my carry-on locked. I keep all cash in my pocket. However I do leave my wallet in an unlocked briefcase under the seat. I think I'll start carrying it to the toilet with me if I need to get up. I never leave my phone or iPad unattended and my Bose earphones go on before takeoff, so there's not much for anyone to steal.
As to this scam being perpetrated only on Pinoys, that may be true, but I doubt it. The greed of the security guys is as rapacious as that of the politicians and I don't think they're much daunted by anyone. It would not shock anyone I'm sure if it turned out that the security scammers were acting on orders from one or more senior officials. Remember, greed here is a river without end.
GE.
Thanks for the info. So it is on departures and not on arrivals. I usually have a 25" bag to check in and a backpack to carryon. Most of the time I use a porter to wheel my bag thru as they are able to bypass the long lines for the X-ray machine. Maybe the scammers would not pull it in front of them. Maybe!
As a normal practice at all airport security points I have my pockets empty and backpack ready to go thru the X-ray machine. Most times I can walk right up to the front of the line ahead of the laggers and throw my backpack on the belt and walk right thru the scanner in one quick move, always keeping an eye on my backpack.
Looks like the 20 yo refused to pay P30 k but had to post P40 k for bail! That is f upped. Now they will fabricate a bunch witnesses against him. I think supervisors and higher ups have to be in on this. I don't think lower level workers would risk this without the support of the next higher level to back it up.
Dark Knight1
09-25-15, 06:11
Saw the story, but remember, that this type of thing is usually a Pinoy on Pinoy type crime. Most know that expats are not shy to shout and scream if they see something wrong and of course to get the phone out and start recording at the earliest instance.[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1778573As to this scam being perpetrated only on Pinoys, that may be true, but I doubt it. The greed of the security guys is as rapacious as that of the politicians and I don't think they're much daunted by anyone. It would not shock anyone I'm sure if it turned out that the security scammers were acting on orders from one or more senior officials. Remember, greed here is a river without end.[/QUOTE]Long term mongers once again appearing brain dead as one stated these scams tend to be Pinoy on Pinoy and one stating he is not sure it will be perpetrated against foreigners. Of course this scam will be used on foreigners and foreigners will be asked to pay more than OFW or Filipinos abroad because after all in most Filipinos minds none Filipinos from "Poreigner Land" have endless amounts of money. This is what they do. They charge foreigners more for everything including scams. Diba?
In the article the Fil-Am Rhed Austria de Guzman was asked to pay P500 while the Caucasian American or none Filipino was asked to pay P30,000.
Jealousy / hatred / resentment of foreigners in this nation reared its ugly head yet once again.
Fastpiston
09-26-15, 02:45
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/538092/news/nation/authorities-probing-laglag-bala-extort-modus-at-naia
I encourage all expats coming here to read this and to think twice about checking bags through. Evidently the latest scale involves inserting a couple of bullets into passengers' luggage and then "discovering" the contraband through x-ray screening. Passengers are then offered the chance to pay a bribe to have the incident forgotten or to go to a jail conveniently located in the airport.
GE.With personal carry on bags, best lock ALL zipper end tag connections, so zippers cannot be opened quickly & surreptitiously while one goes through security scans.
With counter checked bags, best check in bags without zippers as most can usually be easily opened with a ball pen.
Never trust anyone, especially if they are "friendly". Look in wing mirror always, never get complacent. Scamming is endemic.
Looks like Manila airport is getting infamous like Lagos airport in Nigeria.
MrWoolyBooly
10-04-15, 15:54
A polite member asked me: How do you get hold of FEU girls? Do you hang out near college or there are some specific bars to check out?
I suppose a pogi (good-looking), young (18 to late 20's max), charming, western guy could hang out near the campus and chat up any pretty FEU skirt (distinctive green plaid) that walks by or enters your observation point in Jollibee / Starbucks / etc. They wouldn't lose any prestige points as they would with a non-pogi, non-young, non-charming, non-western guy.
Even for the most attractive (however defined) guy, I don't recommend basing your plan on random physical sightings however close the area of operations. The girls usually travel in gaggles, pairs minimum, or if walking alone near the campus are usually going somewhere with a purpose. If you're really interested in finding girls from a specific college, I recommend using your fake FB. Find some girls who list FEU as their college, ask some friendly nonsense question about one of their pics, add them, then take it from there. The girl will have many FB friends from the same college. Repeat the process until you are fully booked. Don't ever initiate an offer of money. Girls who require it as a condition of meeting will tell you. Most in college want to maintain their self-image of not being a gold digger. Don't try to make sense of it. You could always work your online activities while hanging out in a McDo near the campus. That would add convenience to all concerned, but if you're not a prize catch the girls will probably prefer a discrete meeting place. Depending on your technique and patience, you can always allow her to bring a friend or two for pizza or drinks or whatever your treat. If you keep communication and keep adding to your circle of acquaintances your schedule will eventually fill up. A hotel with a convenient eating & drinking place adjacent works best for me. If you're in the Philippines only briefly (less than two weeks), I highly recommend starting up your online efforts a week or two before you arrive.
Sorry if this advice is overly general or wordy. Other senior members have more experience in this particular area. Hope it helps.
Hi all,
I'll be in Manila in about a month. Will be staying briefly at the airport Marriott before flying on to Cebu. Can anyone recommend a FS massage parlor near the hotel? If necessary, Makati would do but nearer would be better.
Thanks in advance.
LexLuther.
Member #4387
10-04-15, 20:02
I hooked my pimpette from mentioned institution through my fake FB. Happy turn of events as I met her through one of my initial fake FB friends. After a few short msg shared she was good to go to provide me her pukie and her friends pukie. Did not take one single date, just met drank a few Tand. And then good to go.
The source have run dried though so even if we still meet occationally ive moved on from her friends.
Its all about getting lucky sometimes as i was so its sometimes hard to predict or tell what people should do:-)
RandyGomez214
10-05-15, 13:43
Hi all,
I'll be in Manila in about a month. Will be staying briefly at the airport Marriott before flying on to Cebu. Can anyone recommend a FS massage parlor near the hotel? If necessary, Makati would do but nearer would be better.
Thanks in advance.
LexLuther.If your looking for a great sensual massage I recommend http://www.nurumassage.ph they provide a professional nuru massage in manila. They have a chat support whom you can talk.
I booked there a lot of times and I can say they are very legit!
Hi all,
I'll be in Manila in about a month. Will be staying briefly at the airport Marriott before flying on to Cebu. Can anyone recommend a FS massage parlor near the hotel? If necessary, Makati would do but nearer would be better.Flight 168 or Air Force 1, same building, different floors in Pasay. Cheap, quick, does the job, nothing fancy. Fl168 is cheaper than AF1 and personally I didn't find the girls any better in AF1 anyway! I think the one RandyGomez mentioned has better reviews though.
WazWallaby
10-07-15, 02:46
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CallSign Papa
10-10-15, 14:51
So I've kinda been seeing this girl (based in Alabang), who'll generally head into Makati when I'm in town for lunch or dinner and we'll usually end up naked as the day we were born. She always says the same thing, if I meet her, I should meet only her, we should be exclusive in Manila. And of course, I tell her that it's fine (even though it's not truthful). Because she's crazy hot, so why not.
We've known each other about a year, we chat regularly on viber, sometimes FB, and I sneakily added her one of her hot friends. Very recently her friend tells me that Jhen (not her real name) is married to an American and has two sons, one of which is 10 years old. Would never have guessed from seeing her naked, she seriously looks like she's never had kids.
Anyway, just found it quite funny how the pinay brain works. Of course the big question is, now I know, do I see her again? Sadly I suspect not.
Of course the big question is, now I know, do I see her again? Sadly I suspect not.Of course you do!
Took a quick 10 day trip to Phi.
Day 1- Landed 1 in the afternoon, quick exit, meter taxi to hotel. My plan was to take the edge off by having my old regular service me first day and then concentrate on the other hopefully DIA girls I had made a list.
Texted my girl who I had talked before telling her my time and date of arrival. She agreed to meet me after work and was going to take the next day off. No reply. Waited and waited, tried to call her but no reply. My sixth sense told me she must be shacked up with somebody. Anyway while waiting started telling Manila girls on the list that I am in Manila and gave my phone number. Two girls texted back out of 10 and wanted to be with me. I told them I am tired because of the long flight and I can meet tomorrow. One girl told me because it is Sunday tomorrow she has to spend time with the family. Made a date with the other girl to meet at robinsons.
By 8 pm got tired of waiting for my regular girl to contact me. Went out to get something to eat and off to LA cafe. OMG! How it has changed. I remember the fondest times I had there picking up young ready to please girls for very little money. By the way it has been at least 2 years since I set foot there. I would say 90 percent of girls are ugly, past their prime date to sell, pushy. Had two beers watching all the girls. Young and reasonably good looking girls running after every Korean walking in. Many stopped by offering their services but none to my liking. They would even sit with me even after I told them I am not interested. One guy approached the ugly fat girl sitting with me and asked her price to which she replied 3000. He left and I believe after pondering comes back and asks her how many shots and she replied one. He leaves. I asked the girl why she did not go with him. She replied saying that is her ST price, take it or leave it. Over the hill girl with standards to maintain!
Had enough of LA experience and went to room alone hoping will get a reply from my regular. Jet lag put me to sleep.
Day 2- Woke up from the noises of many texts coming in from girls I had contacted. One lives 3 hours away and want to bring her aunt to meet me and if I can send bus fare. No to that. Got angry texts from her saying why I would not send money if I wanted to meet her. Next good looking girl wants 5000 pesos for 1 hour. I thought I was talking to an escort girl. Two will finish work at 6 pm and wanted me to call them after.
Anyway armed with the knowledge that I was meeting one girl anyway I did not reply to other texts. The girl I was supposed meet started texting non stop making sure I would meet her. She is coming from somewhere 2 hour ride. Went for breakfast, relaxed, read newspaper. 10 am I get a text from my regular saying she was working hard till midnight and will be free today. I replied I am supposed to meet another girl and will keep in touch.
Went for a nice massage and went to Robinson. The girl meets me with her friend in tow. Both average. DIA photo must be when she was 15 year old. Right now 19. Her friends seems to be in charge. I pulled the girl aside and told to ditch her friend and come with me to the hotel since she promised before to have fun. She said she cannot ask and can we have lunch. OK lunch it is. Spent about 1000. After that while the friend left to go to rest room I asked her again and she said she will ask. I guess she asked and at this time her friend is not ready to go back yet. So while away the time and to put her in the mood I thought maybe we will watch a movie so that I can at least touch some parts if you know what I mean. So I bought the tickets for Martian. While waiting she says her friend needs to go to beauty salon for a haircut etc. I said I am not paying. By this time I realized that these two girls are taking me for a ride but since I really wanted to see the movie saw the movie. As soon as the movie was over I put 500 note on her lap in spite of her protests and walked back to the room. By this time I am in phi more than 24 hours and no sex which is very unusual for me.
As soon as I got to the room plenty of texts from the girl I ditched saying they have no money to go back etc. Ignored all of them. Started texting the two girls who were supposed to finish work. Got lucky with the one and true to her word came and we had a good time together. Nice sweet girl told me she never been with a foreigner, who knows? Very horny, ready to please. Left next morning at 6 am to go to work.
At last I got something when I thought I will draw empty second day as well.
To be continued!
Day 3- After the girl left I get a text from previous regular saying she is angry with me for not making time for her. I text back saying I am free today. She replied saying she is not free. So much for that. When I called she hung up on me obviously extremely angry. So alternative is texted another DIA girl. After some time she replied saying she is not in Manila now and in fact visiting her family in Mindanao. OK, now what? Started chatting with a nice looking girl from Valenzuela with one kid ready to meet me. Initially she wanted a permanent relationship but seemingly relented after I said cannot promise anything. More of this for later.
Went for usual manicure, pedicure, massage. After lunch I get a text from a number I do not recognize. Curious to know who it is I replied saying I am looking for company to stay with me. She replied saying she will meet me after work and she is 18 years old. Asked about I. The she said she has it. Anyway made a date with her to meet me at Robinson at 8 pm. My plan was to meet her if she is ok to be with her. Sure enough she shows up with a friend. She is good looking but friend was not. They both wanted to come to my room. Generally I do not like two girls unless they both participate and good looking. So I told the girl hotel will only allow one girl. They seem surprised. However the other girl said she will wait somewhere. But I told the girl she needs to stay at least till 4 am. Anyway young, juicy girl was real horny and we fucked many times. (See pic). Real nice friendly girl. I asked her how she got my number and she said she got it from her friend who is in Mindanao. This girl really wore me out. Left at 5 am to go to work in a factory.
Day 4- After the 18 year old really drained me I wanted to rest. My regular started texting me saying she is free. I told her I am still with a girl saying it is my understanding that she did not want to see me. Few text back and forth. I was in no mood to fight so stopped responding.
Rested up the whole day. At about 7 pm I get a text from a makati girl I had texted before saying she wants to come to the hotel. Asked what time and she said in one hour. I said ok. Waited and waited but nothing. Finally fell asleep at 10 pm. At about 11 pm I get a call from her saying she will be at the hotel at 11.30 pm. I said I am asleep and hung up on her.
Next day going to Angeles.
MrWoolyBooly
10-12-15, 03:03
Took a quick 10 day trip to Phi.
The girl meets me with her friend in tow.
To be continued!Thanks for the FR Mr Sammon. May I ask whether the girl who brought her friend advised you in advance that she was bringing someone? I'm usually ok with it when they ask first, but I lose my temper when best friend or cousin or auntie shows up without notice expecting free meal and entertainment in exchange for frustrating consenting adults. On the bright side, I've found a 90%+ success rate with chaperoned girls on the second date (without chaperone of course). You said they're both average, so the only real loss is precious time. Good luck and happiness on the rest of your visit.
MrWoolyBooly
10-12-15, 03:09
Day 3-
(See pic). Real nice friendly girl.
I said I am asleep and hung up on her.
A nice, friendly 18 year old is always a pleasure. Is it my eyes, your photography, or does she really have one boob significantly larger than the other?
As for hanging up on the girl, thank you for doing your part in promoting punctuality in our sport.
No, none of them told me they are coming with somebody. Watch for further report.
Day 8- I could not forget the 18 year old. Since she is off Sunday she agreed to stay with me Saturday and Sunday till evening. True to her style was very accommodating. Had a great time with her. Yes her one boob is slightly larger than the other one but she enjoys me sucking and squeezing. Gets very turned on when I kiss her neck. She said I am her first foreigner and I believe her. She had one Phi BF before who she says raped her when she was 16. Who knows? Asked about the size she mentioned as " toothpick size" whatever. No offense to anybody here.
By Sunday afternoon had enough. She said she needs to go home get ready for work, wash clothes and with new found money wanted to treat her family.
After she left I got a text from one of the girls I had texted and chatted on DIA. She told me to meet her at Mall of Asia in an hour. Same routine, if I like her she can be with me. She came with her family to meet me in family car no less. Her mother and her came and talked to me. Usual questions like where I am from, what I am doing etc. I got thoroughly bored talking to them. This girl looks like a European girl with very fair skin and quite pretty. The moment I saw her family I knew I am not going to score although while on skype she promised to stay with me. I asked her if she wants to stay with me or stay with family. She replied family. Later she apologized and promised to be with me next time I visit. She said coming with her family was a mistake. Whatever!
Cool Traveler
10-12-15, 19:15
You are right. There are two X Rays. One as you go in, and one when you check in the bags.
Having been through this airport a few million times, I learnt a few things:
Make sure you plan ahead. You get out of your car or taxi, get your bags out and into your possession quickly. When a porter comes to you, use your hand, and sort of shoo them off politely. Remember to smile. I had one guy, who put his hand on my bag while I rolled it, and when I got to the part where they checked your passport, he wanted money for escorting my bag.
Try your best not to use porters. As you go in, make sure no one touches your bag. Lift and place the bag onto the XRay machine, by yourself. I really don't think they even watch the screen, as I have never ever seen anyone being pulled. Quickly walk through the personnel metal scanner. If someone is standing in front of you, and your bag is going through, I always did my rude thing, and went around that person. The security never gave a hoot.
Quickly pull your bags off the X Ray machine, and roll quickly away from there directly to check in counter. I never make eye contact with security. If they, the security, were waving at me, I never saw it.
Once you get to your check in counter, place your bags in front of you. Change of attitude completely. Eye contact. Smile and say Hello, so your check in happens nicely and without incident. Check in your bags or carry on, doesn't matter. Lock them. It is always a wise thing to do. Get a TSA approved lock, and lock them, even if you do not have anything valuable in them. Lock them. Check in staff will ask the standard questions. Once you hand in the bags, and once they have put those tags on, it is in their possession, their control.
I have never seen anyone from front security ask to look at my bag or other non-local passengers. If the security wants to see your bag, you keep an eye on it. Once they hand it over back, do a run over, before you close up. Be in control.
On carry-ONS, they will check in again at the gate. Again keep a close eye. And they will try to close it, and say you will close it. Go through the bag. I have a photographic memory, so I remember how my bags was packed and what's inside.
Note:
I flew from Manila to Frankfurt, and then to LOS Angeles. I was walking through the airport in Frankfurt (transit). At Frankfurt airport, at one point, two German airport security guys sitting on high stools with a table asked to check my laptop bag as I passed them by. As the guy ran his hand through the front pouch and he cut his hand on a very sharp scalpel. I had dropped that scalpel in when I went home, and at both the Manila airport and the secondary security inspection in Tokyo never caught that. But the German guys did. I was so shocked, scared to see the scalpel. It is like double, triple OMG moment. I apologized profusely, but they took the scalpel, and let me go, with a warning, and to make sure I checked my bags properly before I boarded a plane. Being brown American Indian, I do empty my bags now, and repack.
CT
I am confused on which x-Ray machine is this done on. On departures you have to x-ray all bags at the entrance of the building, is it this one? Or after check-in you go thru a security point and x-ray your carry-on, is it this one?
Then on arrivals after getting your luggage you go through "customs" nothing to declare line and they can pull you over for a search. Any problems here?
WazWallaby
10-13-15, 01:11
Thought I'd drop in to Manila - 2 nights, 2 days. On the way from Sydney to Frankfurt. Good idea! .
I had a meet set with a Cavite gal- 26 yrs. I had met on craigslist. She had been very good mailing me frequently, and true to plan showed up at the Sofitel where I was staying in a nice big room, with views over bay and pool. It's good being a member of Accor Hotels. She had wanted a ridiculous amount of money initially, but I offered her less than half and she jumped at it. My error. Got off twice with her, but got bored. Too starfish. Next morning asked if she could introduce me to friends. Well, within 3 hours had 2 more lovely cavite 20 yr old in room, and we had ourselves a damn orgy! The girls lezzied each other, and I got off once each with the newbies. One was a typical thin spinner who I banged on the couch, thin all over really, and the other was a darker, plumper morena type with lovely eggplant like balloony tits. We went mish and then I sat on her belly and had a titty fuck and came in her soft warm mouth. No swallow, she spat it out on to floor. That was a bit slummy really. Anyway, we had an arvo and night of it, drank the mini bar dry and ordered up room service 3 times. They watched a load of bad Filipino soapies. Also, I was fucked dry. Last cum shot had about a millionth of a mililitre of cum in it. Haha. Early morning - 2 am. I sent them home with good payment.
With a night flight out I had booked a 6 pm check out, so dozed in room, and then crashed poolside under a brolly. Pool completely quiet. Woke up with someone splashing around and watched a cute little rounded pinay ass climb up the ladder out of the pool. Hmmmm. She was a cutie, by herself down the end of the pool half concealed under brolly and surrounding bushes. I was up at the bar ordering a coffee and she suddenly materialized next to me, asking barman for matches. She didn't acknowledge me, but I got a good look at her profile, short reddish dyed hair and long dangly earrings, slight snub nose, smooth skin, 30 maybe. Extra Hmmmm hehe. What the hell. I sauntered down to where she was and asked her for a ciggy. I sat down and she seemed fine with that. We chatted while I smoked, but all very guarded and I thought, "back to my chair here. " She told me she was staying with a German engineer on the executive club floor, I said, "Oh, I've never seen the rooms up there, haha. " Actually, I was on the same floor. Well, knock me out, she says "Room blah blah, come up in 20 minutes. " Bloody hell. She was 3 rooms away from mine.
20 minutes later I am knocking on the door. She answers, dressed in some kind of nightdress, negligee thing, and I can just make out her tits. I was a bit surprised and went straight to the bathroom, and had a think, where's the guy? Anyway, I thought "why not. " Stripped down, wrapped a towel around my waist and opened the door. She was right there, looking up into my eyes. Pulled her into the bathroom, then the shower. We got all soaped up and entangled and I was down and around and tongued every hole, mouth, ears, fanny, a-hole, then spun her round, bent her over and she braced against the wall, impaled her deep with my slippery soaped rod. She shuddered and moaned. In that position you are a dead cert for the cock head to rub up against the g-spot every in-out. Pulling out to just about the full extent, I see her little a-hole winking insolently up at me, so I toyed it with my middle finger, and sensing no problem from her slid it all the way in, smooth and easy as. I then pushed down against the anal wall and felt the finger rubbing along the top of my cock as I fucked her. I built up my thrusts and absolutely fucking exploded inside her sweet pussy. She was a real trooper. Then she most delightfully crouched down over the shower drain hole and showed me as she let my cum leak out of her love tunnel and into the drain. Later, she reversed cow-girl me on the bed but would not let me put my thumb in her back passage. I couldn't get off then despite her working up into a frenzy. I was spent, but she worked on and on and finally came, then she diligently helped me out with a great hand job using her moisturizing cream, so I finally had a little spurt. She laughed. Turns out that little doll was 38 yrs old. I staggered back to my room. She never knew I was so close. On very shaky legs.
Out to the airport and on the Dubai plane, business class, crashed out totally and slept just about the whole trip and in the lounge at Dubai too. I had been fucked to exhaustion by my lovely pinays. 3 cavite sluts. Is Cavite a good place to hunt for good grade pinay sex? Must be. And a classier, 38 yr old performer all in 2 nights, 2 days. I blew 6 loads and was completely done in. Oh you lovely sexy pinay ladies!
By the time we were descending to Frankfurt I was feeling really well and relaxed, and my thoughts were turning to a slightly older pinay fuck machine I had met online who worked in a Cologne restaurant. I thought, "I could do with a nice meal. "
I flew from Manila to Frankfurt, and then to LOS Angeles. I was walking through the airport in Frankfurt (transit).Just curious: if you were transitting through Frankfurt then it seems you just went two-thirds of the way around the world to get from Manila to LA?!
CallSign Papa
10-14-15, 08:13
She said coming with her family was a mistake. Whatever!I always explicitly state that they should come alone, obviously done in a friendly way. The one time a girl brought her friend along I was lucky that she was nowhere near as attractive as her OK Cupid photos and that her friend was an absolute howler, which made it pretty easy to just say "Hi" and "bye".
If a girl doesn't respect basic rules like that, she isn't going to respect anything else. Bin her quick and move on to the next one.
Wicked Roger
10-15-15, 15:38
I always explicitly state that they should come alone, obviously done in a friendly way. The one time a girl brought her friend along I was lucky that she was nowhere near as attractive as her OK Cupid photos and that her friend was an absolute howler, which made it pretty easy to just say "Hi" and "bye".
If a girl doesn't respect basic rules like that, she isn't going to respect anything else. Bin her quick and move on to the next one.CSP,
Please delete the PMs in the inbox so I can send you some information you are asking for.
Of course the big question is, now I know, do I see her again? Sadly I suspect not.Why in the world not? She's not being truthful with you, but then you're not being truthful with her. Sounds like a perfect relationship.
CallSign Papa
10-17-15, 07:15
CSP,
Please delete the PMs in the inbox so I can send you some information you are asking for.Schoolboy error, PM should now be working, thanks WR.
CallSign Papa
10-17-15, 07:17
Why in the world not? She's not being truthful with you, but then you're not being truthful with her. Sounds like a perfect relationship.That does seem to be the way I'm leaning on the matter too.
Wicked Roger
10-17-15, 12:31
Schoolboy error, PM should now be working, thanks WR.PM send CSP and see you soon on your travels.
Found myself alone in a hotel in Pasay recently, so of course I hit up Badoo and starting inviting girls over. A few flakey responses, one early 20-something with great tits stopped responding, then found myself an early 30-something cutie who was close by and agreed to come over. She turned out to be a real sweetie, I caught her on her day off work and ended up spending the day with her. Money never discussed or asked for, although she had no problem adding extra items to my shopping basket in the various shops we went to. For example, I was in 7 Eleven buying water as there is never enough in the hotel room, and she proceeded to add a half dozen chocolate bars and other bits and pieces to my basket. Cost was inconsequential, I put it down to some kind of cultural difference that I did not understand.
She kept talking about wanting to drive, which eventually I understood to be her riding me. No problem dear, just suck me for awhile first then you can drive all you like. Seems she could only cum when driving, although she had no idea what her G spot was when I asked. Perhaps some future education is required. Slipped her 2500 for taxi money on the way out.
Next morning feeling like a change and wanting to try something new, I called over a very pregnant girl from CL. Said she was carrying the baby of some guy in the USA who does not know she is pregnant. Massive titties which oiled up nicely and 8 months pregnant, I was channeling Westy and his pregnant girls from the picture gallery while pounding her from behind. Decided to finish in her mouth for the visual effects and then sent her on her way with some cash for her efforts before she could start having contractions in my room!
WestCoast1
10-19-15, 06:39
Said she was carrying the baby of some guy in the USA who does not know she is pregnant. Massive titties which oiled up nicely and 8 months pregnant, I was channeling Westy and his pregnant girls from the picture gallery while pounding her from behind. Decided to finish in her mouth for the visual effects and then sent her on her way with some cash for her efforts before she could start having contractions in my room!No idea what Ceegee is talking about. None.
Hi, I am scheduled to arrive in Manilla on Wednesday the 21st of this month, but I am now debating whether to cancel my trip, due to flooding.
I would appreciate any advice from folks on the ground there. Thanks.
Hi, I am scheduled to arrive in Manilla on Wednesday the 21st of this month, but I am now debating whether to cancel my trip, due to flooding.
I would appreciate any advice from folks on the ground there. Thanks.No issues in Metro Manila that I saw today. Bit of rain and cloud, that was about it.
So I've kinda been seeing this girl (based in Alabang), who'll generally head into Makati when I'm in town for lunch or dinner and we'll usually end up naked as the day we were born. She always says the same thing, if I meet her, I should meet only her, we should be exclusive in Manila. And of course, I tell her that it's fine (even though it's not truthful). Because she's crazy hot, so why not.
We've known each other about a year, we chat regularly on viber, sometimes FB, and I sneakily added her one of her hot friends. Very recently her friend tells me that Jhen (not her real name) is married to an American and has two sons, one of which is 10 years old. Would never have guessed from seeing her naked, she seriously looks like she's never had kids.
Anyway, just found it quite funny how the pinay brain works. Of course the big question is, now I know, do I see her again? Sadly I suspect not.I have been seeing someone semi-regularly that "claims" is exclusive. The evidence is piling up on some side action by her. I'll probably cut the cord in a month or two.
But it seems like she's just a hit-and-run for you, so why not just keep it in your back pocket?
RandyGomez214
10-20-15, 10:38
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CallSign Papa
10-20-15, 11:42
I have been seeing someone semi-regularly that "claims" is exclusive. The evidence is piling up on some side action by her. You would not believe the number of girls who are listed as "engaged" or "in a relationship" who'll accept a friend request (from my fake FB account), and will talk about meeting up in less than 5 minutes of chatting. I think the term exclusive is really just a way these girls protect themselves from being seen as promiscuous, and maybe they sometimes are even deluded into thinking it's true. Arguably girls in Manila are the most promiscuous of any of the many cities I've visited. Long may it continue.
I was just surprised at how well this particular girl had managed to hide both a husband and two kids given the number of times we'd met. It was a flawless disguise. Anyway, I'm over it and seeing her again in two weeks.
Member #4387
10-20-15, 15:02
You would not believe the number of girls who are listed as "engaged" or "in a relationship" who'll accept a friend request (from my fake FB account), and will talk about meeting up in less than 5 minutes of chatting. I think the term exclusive is really just a way these girls protect themselves from being seen as promiscuous, and maybe they sometimes are even deluded into thinking it's true. Arguably girls in Manila are the most promiscuous of any of the many cities I've visited. Long may it continue.
I was just surprised at how well this particular girl had managed to hide both a husband and two kids given the number of times we'd met. It was a flawless disguise. Anyway, I'm over it and seeing her again in two weeks.Word; I run a still expanding network from my fake FB account (increased itself by many hundreds in bery short ammount of time). I was just sitting here the other day for fun and contacted girls beeing engaged or in relationship (with both westerns and pinoys) if they wanted to come meet me my hotel for some fun on my upcomming trip. From 15 girls I got 12 positive responses in very short time, 2 told me "no, sorry can not on that time"(meaning I could ask later) and one is yet to respond even if I see she did read my msg. I don't operate as a "weddingcrasher" but since these guys are not my frinds I have no scrupples operating like this either. It is the girls who are wrongdoing in my book and I am just doing my job hunting new pussy. If I will meet them or not I don't know as I have allready plentyful bookings arranged but beeing engaged or in relationship here seems to be no dealbreaker to the girls.
Arguably girls in Manila are the most promiscuous of any of the many cities I've visited. Long may it continue.
Anyway, I'm over it and seeing her again in two weeks.LOL, thumbs up on both comments.
CookieDude
10-21-15, 23:41
If your looking for a great sensual massage I recommend http://www.nurumassage.ph they provide a professional nuru massage in manila. They have a chat support whom you can talk.
I booked there a lot of times and I can say they are very legit!I had booked once with TickleSpa. They sent a novice girl from the boondocks who didn't know a tantric from a shiatsu. Haven't tried these guys yet. Do they offer FS as well?
RandyGomez214
10-22-15, 13:32
I had booked once with TickleSpa. They sent a novice girl from the boondocks who didn't know a tantric from a shiatsu. Haven't tried these guys yet. Do they offer FS as well?Yes, just ask the chat operator.
Cunning Stunt
10-26-15, 07:15
Ever wondered what a high class Manila escort was like? I have so the other day I booked this girl and she was a stunner and just as hot as the pic suggests. Expensive by Philippine standards but service was excellent and worth every peso. Unfortunately didn't allow pics.
Makeupaname
10-26-15, 07:32
How many pesos for a high priced escort?
How many pesos for a high priced escort?I'm thinking 20 k for 3 hrs +-4 k LOL.
PC out.
Cunning Stunt
10-27-15, 14:56
I'm thinking 20 k for 3 hrs +-4 k Way out, man. Now if she was a hot young TV starlet or ramp model then 10-20 k is a possibility.
She is actually yours for 3 hours /2 rounds for the princely sum of 7 k.
Member #4387
10-27-15, 19:43
Way out, man. Now if she was a hot young TV starlet or ramp model then 10-20 k is a possibility.
She is actually yours for 3 hours /2 rounds for the princely sum of 7 k.She looked great Cunning. 7 k will not break the bank at all. But for ego boost its fun have them for free (ex my GF I don't want anyone for free as it feels better give them a little something for guilt purposes).
Yesterday I was pretty much stood down by the cashier at Cartier in Greenbelt (buying bd present for the mother of my baby). She was Hi so model quality and seen guys like me in numbers, hehe. I go back tmrw to buy the watch (sized for the mother) maybe she ease up then, hehe.
Ive started to hunt more in the upscale shop environment globaly as these stores mostly are without customers but damn hot staff. Glorrietta take a rest:-)
I made a trip to Manila in September. Had to shorten the trip somewhat, but was in Phil for 10 days. I spend time near LA Cafe, some time in Subic (will do another report), then back to Makati. Prior to the trip, I made some contact with DIA, FC, and craigslist girls. I wanted to hit up some women in the 40 year old range, and maybe 50's on this trip for a little variety, but never made it higher than the 30 year old at Point (see below) Plenty to choose from, but since I had to shorten the trip, I didn't make any connections, just decided to hit the hot spots. I had at least four girls from the LA Cafe. The range was $1500 - $1800 for this trip, but there were plenty of cuties. Typical conversation: Them: "have you been to the Philippines before?" Me: Yes. Them: "Do you have a girlfriend here?" Me: No. Next questions seemed to be, after answering the first two questions, :"have you been to Phill before, do you have a girlfriend. I had a young one, slim about 21, long dark hair, about 5 feet, very cute. I tried to talk her into anal, she said that she was saving that for her future husband. "it's all I have left, the only way to show him I love him. " Luckily, I wasn't here for intelligent conversation.
Most of the girls I was with here were in there 20's. At least when I have been here, there was a good selection. On my last trip, I don't remember the place being crowded during the day, this time it was. I didn't see any potential action this time at the mall, Robinsons Mall, I think. I hit the GPoint bar one day, picked up a rare petite girl with big naturals, about 35 the. She was about 30, no kids, great body. She did rimming, deep throat, all positions, finished with Russian. I was going to try to see her again, but didn't make it make to her. Still getting calls from her. I walked a couple of times through Amazonia, always a couple of girls, but I didn't partake here. I went to Cowboys a couple of times. I danced with two great looking girls, one which I really wanted to take out. They were working in pairs, as the night went on, I detected some BS, so decided the potential trouble may not be worth it. A few girls in here looked available each night, but most in the crowd see to be families, friends, husband and wife, etc.
After Subic, I spent a night in Makati before flying back to the US. I got back to Makati around 5 pm, later than expected, but the Manila traffic was a mess when coming back from Subic. After checking into the Makati hotel, I walked to the Green belt mall around 6:00. After a while I sat down at the Havana. Next to my table where three girls, two kinda of average. One beautiful, smart looking, well dressed girl. We had some conversation, a couple of drinks, and two of the girls were working in pairs it appears. I told the smart looking one that I only wanted her. They really wanted a twosome, but the girl I wanted came up. $2500, was want we agreed upon. Turn out this girls worked in an office. She was easy to have an intelligent conversation with. We had a couple of drinks at the hotel bar, then went up to the room.
We both showered, then got in the bed. She was very beautiful, 34 years old. Not a hard body, not petite, very small amount of mommy tummy, but just overall very pretty. It was a very GFE session, all positions, I finished in Doggie. After I finished, she did cowgirl and came. We laid in bed, sipped on the drinks that we brought from the bar. Then she seemed determined to make me come again, so she gave a great BJ for quite all. Alas, I couldn't cum again. She would have stayed all night, but I had an early morning flight, so I was ready to call it a night. However, I went to eat, had a regular massage at the hotel, then slept for a couple of hours, then back to the US.
I stlll keep up with her via whatsapp, If I can make it back soon, I will definitely try to see her for longer. The other girl from GPoint, I would love to have another short term session with her.
Before my next trip, I really need to find some great places to eat. I sure that are some, but I find most of the food in Phil, at least in Manila, to be average at best.
Way out, man. Now if she was a hot young TV starlet or ramp model then 10-20 k is a possibility.
She is actually yours for 3 hours /2 rounds for the princely sum of 7 k.That's actually good to know CS. Appreciate the info as for 15 k I could have her all day and night and Unl pops I presume LOL.
Not bad for 400 usd but I rather have 6 different girls like the Skoggimon LOL daily.
PC out.
I had booked once with TickleSpa. They sent a novice girl from the boondocks who didn't know a tantric from a shiatsu. Haven't tried these guys yet. Do they offer FS as well?The question is did she know what a HJ or a BJ was LOL. That to me is equally important than the Shiatsu or Tantric (yeah right she knew what this was ha). Even the booney girls need loving hehe.
PC out.
She looked great Cunning. 7 k will not break the bank at all. But for ego boost its fun have them for free (ex my GF I don't want anyone for free as it feels better give them a little something for guilt purposes).
Yesterday I was pretty much stood down by the cashier at Cartier in Greenbelt (buying bd present for the mother of my baby). She was Hi so model quality and seen guys like me in numbers, hehe. I go back tmrw to buy the watch (sized for the mother) maybe she ease up then, hehe.
Ive started to hunt more in the upscale shop environment globaly as these stores mostly are without customers but damn hot staff. Glorrietta take a rest:-)Skoggimon,
I will spend more days shopping the Hi end shops and like someone else said pass out biz cards and tally up calls or texts every day or 2. Maybe that's the way to go about it instead putting them on guard. No embarrassment if they can reply when they are alone right.
PC out.
Way out, man. Now if she was a hot young TV starlet or ramp model then 10-20 k is a possibility.
She is actually yours for 3 hours /2 rounds for the princely sum of 7 k.That translate to $150. Looks like a deal under the circumstances.
She is actually yours for 3 hours /2 rounds for the princely sum of 7 k.Very reasonable, if you consider a birgirl in Burgos can be roughly the same amount.
Blanquiceleste
10-31-15, 02:28
Very reasonable, if you consider a birgirl in Burgos can be roughly the same amount.I don't remember paying anywhere near 7 k to any girl from Burgos. At least not till Apr 2015.
I don't remember paying anywhere near 7 k to any girl from Burgos. At least not till Apr 2015.Depends on the place, how much one drinks, and how many lady drinks for the group are purchased, doesn't it? Think of the aggregate. If one adds the drinks (p100 - p390), barfine (p1600 - p3900), and payment to the girl (p2500 - p4000) (and don't forget taxi money too) one may find the night's activities closer to p7k than p4k. To economise Rogues is the place.
If you have a sure fire way to keep it cheap break it down for us.
Anyone ever hooked up with her? Basically a Pinay that wants White guys to creampie her discreetly, claims not to even want taxi fare. Just wants to be used.
Member #4698
10-31-15, 10:48
10 Lady Drinks is the barfine. You only have to pay for lady drinks separately when you choose NOT to take the girl out of the bar. Therefore at Bottoms, for example, the most expensiive Burgos Bar and by the way my favorite bar on account of the girls, the tab comes to 3900 p for barfine which includes up to 10 Tequilas for your girl + my drink tab. Later after sexual congress the girl will expect 3900 p or the equivalent of the barfine if you are taking out from another Burgos bar. Additionally, I will voluntarily give my girl a tip of say between 200p and 500p if she was good.
Thus an average night in Bottoms runs something like this: 3900p (for my girl's Tequilas and barfine) +3900p (for sexual congress) +600p (for my Tequilas) +taxi+dinner+tip+any lady drinks I might buy for my girl's girl friends. I always buy a drink or two for the best girl friend. That costs extra unless I barfine the girlfriend too and in that case her drinks are part of the barfine and the barfine for two girls is discounted to 3000 p per girl. Additionally The mamasan usually hits me up for a drink as well 390 p, but she always gives me a free tequila in return for my generosity. Clearly Bottoms is not a cheap night out by any means, but I really like the girls in this honky tonk. I have never had a bad girl in this bar. In addition, my favorite Bottom's girl often visits me in the late afternoons/early evenings. We shag, hang out together for 4 or 5 hours, and have dinner. There is no barfine on these get togethers. I believe this is a common practice if you have a good relationship with a girl from any Burgos Bar.
I will soon post a price comparison between Bottoms (Burgos) and Crazy House (Soi Cowboy), my two favorite bars in Manila and Bangkok respectively. I think it will be interesting when I compare a 3 Tequila, 5 Tequila, and (OMG) 7 Tequila night in both places. My number 1 and number 2 top girls of my very recent 5.5 week trip were from Bottoms. My number 3 girl was from Crazy House (Soi Cowboy). Yeah, the PI took home the Gold and the Silver this time around and Thailand won the Bronze. That ménage à trois I had with my two favorite Bottoms girls at the Fairmont Hotel was the best night of the entire trip. It was very memorable!
Wicked Roger
10-31-15, 16:08
Therefore at Bottoms, for example, the most expensiive Burgos Bar and by the way my favorite bar on account of the girls, the tab comes to 3900 p for barfine which includes up to 10 Tequilas for your girl + my drink tab. Later after sexual congress the girl will expect 3900 p or the equivalent of the barfine if you are taking out from another Burgos bar. Additionally, I will voluntarily give my girl a tip of say between 200p and 500p if she was good.
Thus an average night in Bottoms runs something like this: 3900p (for my girl's Tequilas and barfine) +3900p (for sexual congress) +600p (for my Tequilas) +taxi+dinner+tip+any lady drinks I might buy for my girl's girl friends.
In addition, my favorite Bottom's girl often visits me in the late afternoons/early evenings. We shag, hang out together for 4 or 5 hours, and have dinner. There is no barfine on these get togethers. I believe this is a common practice if you have a good relationship with a girl from any Burgos Bar.
ISo basically PHP 8000+ + = Blanquiceleste you have your second person who pays more than 7 k LOL.
I would prefer to go with the upscale WG at 7 k than ay from Bottoms.
I was there last night ad the selection was bad. I did an FR on this and other bars today (posted) - and none I Bottoms would float my boat NB but YMMV ad we all like different things. Rogues was (last night) the best I visited by a long mile.
With the barfine and tip and drinks I would use the high class escorts but that is just me as seems easier and less hassle, no smoke etc.
As for seeing them after hours that is best as I did with one this afternoon from Rogues, very easy no complications and lots of time to have fun.
Member #4643
10-31-15, 18:21
Anyone ever hooked up with her? Basically a Pinay that wants White guys to creampie her discreetly, claims not to even want taxi fare. Just wants to be used.Craig's list in the USA is filled with ads like this. They are 100% scams, although for the life of me I have no idea what the scammers hope to earn by fooling someone into communicating with them (I should add that while I have never responded to any of these ads, there are plenty of people who have, and they write about their experiences on the internet).
If the lady in question is not scamming you, please report back!
Blanquiceleste
10-31-15, 19:21
Depends on the place, how much one drinks, and how many lady drinks for the group are purchased, doesn't it? Think of the aggregate. If one adds the drinks (p100 - p390), barfine (p1600 - p3900), and payment to the girl (p2500 - p4000) (and don't forget taxi money too) one may find the night's activities closer to p7k than p4k. To economise Rogues is the place.
If you have a sure fire way to keep it cheap break it down for us.If one starts adding up everything then certainly you are looking at closer to 8 k a night. But then some girls are enterprising and actually give you their number and meet up later at LA Cafe. That way it turns out cheaper as there is no BF involved. But I guess that is not the correct way to conduct business.
Rogues for all its popularity never floated my boat.
BTW most of the girls on Burgos are on social media too, specially Badoo. Now there is an economical route, but its not the same thing as picking a lass at the bar.
Chocha Monger
11-01-15, 09:09
PAL cancels over 200 flights due to APEC. Don't get stranded http://www.rappler.com/business/industries/171-aviation-tourism/111212-pal-cancels-flights-apec-manila.
PAL cancels over 200 flights due to APEC. Good opportunity for brave NAIA staff to place some more bullets in the luggage of those CEO's.
Cheers!
PAL cancels over 200 flights due to APEC. Don't get stranded http://www.rappler.com/business/industries/171-aviation-tourism/111212-pal-cancels-flights-apec-manila.Philippines government is a joke. Inconveniencing the public to boost the ego of a few public 'servants'.
CallSign Papa
11-02-15, 18:40
Very handily land on the 21st November (1 day after it finished). Hopefully that's a sign of my luck for the coming trip.
Philippines government is a joke. Inconveniencing the public to boost the ego of a few public 'servants'.It's a bit more than that.
It's a big deal for Manila and they sure as hell want to try to minimize risks.
Most key world leaders are visiting (including Obama, Cameron, Li etc) and a similar thing happened for the Pope's visit last year although it was 2 days only.
At least there was a 2-month warning about all the likely disruptions so if anyone is caught out by it then you are not planning far enough in advance.
It's going to be a pain in the neck but no amount of belly-aching on ISG will change anything.
The airport will close for 4 days; certain roads will be off-limits. We know which roads they will be.
I will simply stay home and work from my home office with occasional walks to the malls where life will go on as usual.
CallSign Papa
11-03-15, 06:39
I will simply stay home and work from my home office with occasional walks to the malls where life will go on as usual.This kind of level headed, common sense, lack of hysteria approach will simply not be tolerated on the Manila board.
If one starts adding up everything then certainly you are looking at closer to 8 k a night. Well, one should add the costs of one's own first drink, BF, girl's fee, and her taxi tip. All of those costs are directly involved. Secondary costs would be one's own additional drinks and taxi / bus / jeep fare - one can walk. Tertiary costs would be drinks for her friends and momma.
But then some girls are enterprising and actually give you their number and meet up later at LA Cafe. OK then. Hang around LA Cafe until 4 or 4:30 am. May save yourself 20-30 minutes by meeting someplace closer to Burgos.
That way it turns out cheaper as there is no BF involved.Sure, that'll work. But your original comment was that you don't remember paying anywhere near p7k to a girl from Burgos. This suggests to your reader that a girl in an open-for-business Burgos bar can be found at a more affordable price under normal conditions. However, to actually accomplish such a feat requires other previously unmentioned yet quite important conditions such as "wait until closing time" or "find her on a dating site". Those may work.
But I guess that is not the correct way to conduct business.I disagree. What a girl chooses to do own her own time is up to her.
BTW most of the girls on Burgos are on social media too, specially Badoo. Now there is an economical route, but its not the same thing as picking a lass at the bar.In other words, the economical way to pick up a girl from Burgos is to not go to Burgos. Glad we got that cleared up.
Blanquiceleste
11-05-15, 00:56
Well, one should add the costs of one's own first drink, BF, girl's fee, and her taxi tip. All of those costs are directly involved. Secondary costs would be one's own additional drinks and taxi / bus / jeep fare - one can walk. Tertiary costs would be drinks for her friends and momma.
In any casino there are high rollers at the poker tables while there are penniless hobos prowling around the slot machines. Now I know where I stand. .
In other words, the economical way to pick up a girl from Burgos is to not go to Burgos. Glad we got that cleared up.One still needs to go to Burgos to select the girl. But one does not HAVE TO pick the girl there in the bar.
Peace Love Empathy.
FreebieFan
11-05-15, 01:58
Long term mongers once again appearing brain dead as one stated these scams tend to be Pinoy on Pinoy and one stating he is not sure it will be perpetrated against foreigners. Of course this scam will be used on foreigners and foreigners will be asked to pay more than OFW or Filipinos abroad ?
.http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/737013/naia-syndicate-confirmed
First para. " preying mainly on elderly (Filpionos) and OFW's.
Brain dead. Nahh don't think so.
Its great when we are surrounded by loud, verbose, opinionated mongers who open their mouths and jump right in. Lifes probably better when you are kept in the dark, right mate?
GoodEnough
11-05-15, 23:46
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/737013/naia-syndicate-confirmed
First para. " preying mainly on elderly (Filpionos) and OFW's.
Brain dead. Nahh don't think so.
Its great when we are surrounded by loud, verbose, opinionated mongers who open their mouths and jump right in. Lifes probably better when you are kept in the dark, right mate?Though it is true that most of those targeted have been Filipinos, some foreign travelers have also been subjected to the scam. I'm a frequent traveler on the Davao-Manila route, and caution about the scam has caused me to use Terminal 2 exclusively as I think it's a bit more difficult to perpetuate the scam activities there. Speculation among many of my Filipino friends is hat the whole thing is being orchestrated by one of more politicians whose campaigns required additional funds. The tepid, or rather indifferent response of the President and his cronies lends some credence to this contention.
GE.
LuvAsianTang
11-06-15, 04:33
Can anyone tell me the location of edsa plaza?
Can anyone tell me the location of edsa plaza?Really? It's like asking where the pussy in the Phils is. Its on EDSA dude. Or you can always ask one of the smelly cab drivers LOL.
PC out.
Can anyone tell me the location of edsa plaza?Hi LAT,
There is no EDSA Plaza as such; the place that you want is called the EDSA (International) Entertainment Complex and is in Pasay. If you google that (maps or search), you will find it very easily. It is handy to the SM Mall of Asia and NAIA.
BTW, EDSA is an acronym for 'Epifanio de LOS Santos Avenue', and most maps use the full name. Without this knowledge, first time visitors can easily get frustrated searching for EDSA Ave, or EDSA Rd. And the Avenue is quite a long freeway (questionable title), going through Pasay, Makati, Quezon and probably a few other cities.
Hope this is helpful.
Cheers.
LuvAsianTang
11-06-15, 08:20
Hi LAT,
There is no EDSA Plaza as such; the place that you want is called the EDSA (International) Entertainment Complex and is in Pasay. If you google that (maps or search), you will find it very easily. It is handy to the SM Mall of Asia and NAIA.
BTW, EDSA is an acronym for 'Epifanio de LOS Santos Avenue', and most maps use the full name. Without this knowledge, first time visitors can easily get frustrated searching for EDSA Ave, or EDSA Rd. And the Avenue is quite a long freeway (questionable title), going through Pasay, Makati, Quezon and probably a few other cities.
Hope this is helpful.
Cheers.Thanks ikksman its always nice to find a brother willing to actually give some information, after all that is what this site started out to be.
Happy pooning, L A T.
Big Poppa II
11-06-15, 13:23
Can anyone tell me the location of edsa plaza?EDSA and F. Be. Harrison Street. Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/place/EDSA+Int'l. +Entertainment+Complex / at 14.5370207,120.9942279,17 z / data=!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0000000000000000:0 xaef6 f1 d25978 a892.
BP.
Oh, were you there at the beginning? Please share the details "brother".
Thanks ikksman its always nice to find a brother willing to actually give some information, after all that is what this site started out to be.
Happy pooning, L A T.
CrownRoyal
11-06-15, 14:29
EDSA and F. Be. Harrison Street. Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/place/EDSA+Int'l. +Entertainment+Complex / at 14.5370207,120.9942279,17 z / data=!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0000000000000000:0 xaef6 f1 d25978 a892.
BP.That link took me to a location in Canada. Bit of a hike, eh?
That link took me to a location in Canada. Bit of a hike, eh?Probably best to go in summer.
EDSA and F. Be. Harrison Street. Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/place/EDSA+Int'l. +Entertainment+Complex / at 14.5370207,120.9942279,17 z / data=!4 m2!3 m1!1 s0 x0000000000000000:0 xaef6 f1 d25978 a892.
BP.Edmonton, Alberta is a bit chilly in the winter, bring warm clothes.
Or try this EDSA instead:
EDSA Int'l. Entertainment Complex.
https://goo.gl/maps/oP7DHo4XsSn
Member #4698
11-06-15, 17:34
EDSA entertainment plaza: Can anyone tell me the location of edsa plaza?
There are solid reviews on individual Bars inside the EDSA Entertainment Complex complete with a description of the bars, the girls, prices, and suggestions on the optimal time to go. I know because I have written a couple of these reports myself and have read many more. All you have to do is search the website. Try COTTON CLUB, FIREHOUSE, & PITSTOP - the top 3 bars in the complex.
The EDSA Entertainment Complex is a competitive alternative to Burgos Street Bars especially if you are staying close to the Bay. The EDSA Bars, on average, are a little less expensive than Burgos St. Bars. You will find some real nice girls in both locations. I prefer Burgos St. slightly over EDSA, but that is just me. I consider both locations the two best places to find working girls in Metro Manila and therefor in the entire PI. Think of Soi Cowboy vs Nana Entertainment Complex in BKK and you will have a fair idea of what I am talking about.
Folks,
I am going to Davao for a week. Any action there? Request help to get something there.
Thanks in advance.
Regards.
Sanysh.
Folks,
I am going to Davao for a week. Any action there? Request help to get something there.
Thanks in advance.
Regards.
Sanysh.Check out the Davao thread.
Wicked Roger
11-06-15, 20:26
Folks,
I am going to Davao for a week. Any action there? Request help to get something there.
Thanks in advance.
Regards.
SanyshSanysh,
On the UAE board where lots of your fellow brethren seem to pollute (ie the 'bro / dude' brigade) you are classed a 'manager'.
Re Davao. This is the MANILA thread and there is one for Davao please find it.
Secondly, yes there is action there.
Thirdly if you RTFF and did any basic search (and also saw the Davao thread LOL) you would be able to read all the FRs and come to the conclusion (s) you need to know about action.
Fourthly, if you RTFF and look for 'give and take' you see FRs by many on what that means, suggest you follow that advice.
And finally, I would recommend not calling anyone bro or dude on this forum. Some don't take kindly to that familiarity.
News this morning is saying the US is imposing new rules on air carriers overseas with flights into the US. Possibly the focus is on who and how many have access to the aircraft. I'm wondering how this could change the whole "bullet-planting" scheme. I am not going to hold my breath waiting for any arrests of perpetrators.
Meanwhile it would seem prudent to expect delays on flights from NAIA to the US, and / or Russia, and the UK.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/04/aviation/philippines-airport-bullet-bag-scam-tanim-bala/?iid=ob_videoleaf_organicfooter_mobile&iref=obnetwork
(CNN) As if airports weren't stressful enough, a new "bullet-in-luggage" scam in the Philippines is piling on fresh hell for passengers.
Travelers from all over the world are said to have been targeted by airport security staff who allegedly plant live ammunition in luggage in order to extort money.
Unlicensed possession or purchase of firearms and ammunition is illegal in the Philippines.
CNN Philippines reports that police have recorded 30 alleged cases of the scam, known locally as "tanim bala," between January and November 2015.
Manila International Airport Authority says there have been five alleged cases in the past two weeks.
Government officials say the matter is being investigated, but presidential spokesman Herminio Coloma Jr. insists the cases are isolated.
Passenger vigilance.
That hasn't stopped protests reportedly being staged by members of Hong Kong's expatriate Filipino population.
Nor will it help improve the reputation of Manila's Ninoy Aquino International Airport, which -- after being crowned the world's worst for three years in a row -- only recently managed to haul itself off the bottom of the list.
Worried about flying into the Philippines? CNN Philippines has published some tips for avoiding the scam.
These include using a hard case and avoiding luggage with external pockets, wrapping the entire bag in cling film, and calling in witnesses, lawyers and airport supervisors if security insists on going through any bags.
Eric Apolonio, a spokesperson of the Civil Aeronautics Association of the Philippines, advises travelers to keep an eye on their luggage at all times -- even as it goes through the airport security X-ray machine.
Read the full story at CNN Philippines.
First of all thanks for such nice message.
I always do the RTFF and don't believe in so called of yours "manager " class. I have passed those days and helped quiet few friends on this board. IF you don't want to help. Fine. Yes you guys might be king of this field but that does not mean we are beggars.
Davavo forum is very silent hence this message.
Any ways do not want to go ahead on this discussion. I retire. Apology for this.
Regards.
Sanysh.
Sanysh,
On the UAE board where lots of your fellow brethren seem to pollute (ie the 'bro / dude' brigade) you are classed a 'manager'.
Re Davao. This is the MANILA thread and there is one for Davao please find it.
Secondly, yes there is action there.
Thirdly if you RTFF and did any basic search (and also saw the Davao thread LOL) you would be able to read all the FRs and come to the conclusion (s) you need to know about action.
Fourthly, if you RTFF and look for 'give and take' you see FRs by many on what that means, suggest you follow that advice.
And finally, I would recommend not calling anyone bro or dude on this forum. Some don't take kindly to that familiarity.
Member #4387
11-07-15, 10:38
News this morning is saying the US is imposing new rules on air carriers overseas with flights into the US. Possibly the focus is on who and how many have access to the aircraft. I'm wondering how this could change the whole "bullet-planting" scheme. I am not going to hold my breath waiting for any arrests of perpetrators.
Meanwhile it would seem prudent to expect delays on flights from NAIA to the US, and / or Russia, and the UK.Naia's bulletscam have nothing to do with a russian jet, most likely, exploded after take off from Sharm el Sheik in Egypt a few days ago. This is the reason why US carriers and probably others want a more strict regime on who and when anyone can be in contact with their aircrafts. This bcs they have from good authority that maybe IS was able to plant explosive into the aircraft during its groundstop at Sharmel. The bullet planting scheme takes place long time before and are not attached to the airlines / aircrafts whatsoever. Just saying.
Wicked Roger
11-07-15, 12:06
I'm wondering how this could change the whole "bullet-planting" scheme. I am not going to hold my breath waiting for any arrests of perpetrators.
Meanwhile it would seem prudent to expect delays on flights from NAIA to the US, and / or Russia, and the UK.It won't change much as the bullet scam is before the passenger get anywhere near the aircraft. As Skogis said this is more global and the fact that airport security in some part of the world is a joke inc. Egypt. I know I go there but now I expect it to be way more tough than before.
Sad thing is that even if NAIA had to toughen up its security screening (and IMHO it has to as it is also a joke at times) some will try and get some scam out of it as it is in many pinoy DNA. They grow up seeing others cheat and steal so for many this is normal business which to quote my friends is "shameful" and "embarrassing internationally".
GE comments also ring true IMHO regarding politics being somehow involved. I hear the same from my pinoy friends who are very suspicious. Basically they say this scam has been going on for some time but because they picked on the wrong people this time it has become a scandal. The response from the government about it being isolated, blame the person carrying the bullet (WTF. How can you blame if planted) and other rather insipid actions / responses suggest there maybe a grain of truth in what they think.
Wicked Roger
11-07-15, 12:10
First of all thanks for such nice message.
I always do the RTFF and don't believe in so called of yours "manager " class. I have passed those days and helped quiet few friends on this board. IF you don't want to help. Fine. Yes you guys might be king of this field but that does not mean we are beggars.
Davavo forum is very silent hence this message.
Any ways do not want to go ahead on this discussion. I retire. Apology for this.
Regards,
SanyshIf you had RTFF you see lots of information about Davao from where to stay, to eat and where the bars are and if some have naked girls dancing. Also plenty of information on where the college girls hang out plus lots of other great advice.
Also look at the DS forum as many including myself post there as well.
So 42 FRs, many questions little give lots take = manager as you could not have RTFF and come away with nothing. Not possible.
So spend 30 minutes read back and you find all you need. It really is that simple if you try. I did for my first newbie trip to Manila and after a while I had a good data base of idea and then I asked a few questions to clarify. Loso 69 did on his maiden trip to Abu Dhabi. Can be done but needs effort and not a manager attitude.
Thanks sir for this.
I do not have bone with you. Yes you are a legend and hence will retreat back.
Regards.
Sanysh.
If you had RTFF you see lots of information about Davao from where to stay, to eat and where the bars are and if some have naked girls dancing. Also plenty of information on where the college girls hang out plus lots of other great advice.
Also look at the DS forum as many including myself post there as well.
So 42 FRs, many questions little give lots take = manager as you could not have RTFF and come away with nothing. Not possible.
So spend 30 minutes read back and you find all you need. It really is that simple if you try. I did for my first newbie trip to Manila and after a while I had a good data base of idea and then I asked a few questions to clarify. Loso 69 did on his maiden trip to Abu Dhabi. Can be done but needs effort and not a manager attitude.
If you had RTFF you see lots of information about Davao from where to stay, to eat and where the bars are and if some have naked girls dancing. Also plenty of information on where the college girls hang out plus lots of other great advice.
Also look at the DS forum as many including myself post there as well.
So 42 FRs, many questions little give lots take = manager as you could not have RTFF and come away with nothing. Not possible.
So spend 30 minutes read back and you find all you need. It really is that simple if you try. I did for my first newbie trip to Manila and after a while I had a good data base of idea and then I asked a few questions to clarify. Loso 69 did on his maiden trip to Abu Dhabi. Can be done but needs effort and not a manager attitude.Here's an idea. If you don't want to help out with an answer, skip the post. You sound like a broken record. Which is way more bothersome than any question I've read on here. Is there a rule here that says you must reprimand everyone who posts? Just ignore it. Try it one time. You might like it.
Hoza
Naia's bulletscam have nothing to do with a russian jet...the bullet planting scheme takes place long time before and are not attached to the airlines.Yes the bullet scam scheme seems to be (mostly?) done at the airport entrance. So anyone coming and thinking to get their luggage wrapped, I believe that is done Inside the terminal, after the initial screening. The initial screeners are part of the chain of custody of all your luggage.
These scams are being done by Office of Transportation Security (OTS), personnel. I understand the agency was created by the president, and the boss is a former security officer for him. Now US flag carriers probably screen checked luggage again before it is loaded in aircraft.
But what US Homeland defense must be considering is, a lack of confidence in the OTS personnel. Is OTC in place on the back side of the terminal? Guarding employee access, the gates, baggage handling, etc? Is OTC doing the background checks on airport personnel? I don't know, their web site is not clear about their duties. Homeland defense may not understand, like the PI gov does, that the bullet scams are just "good old boy" stuff and not dangerous to flights.
I am thinking Homeland Defense will quietly tell them to knock if off (the bullet scams), or they will stop the US-bound flights because of a lack of trust in the system. The Egypt crash it points out to the US / UK, etc that airport backside security is too slack.
I remember seeing one of the news reports, an airline security spokeman was saying "we can't check everything all the time, so we rely on our people looking out for each other". That's funny.
Here's an idea. If you don't want to help out with an answer, skip the post. You sound like a broken record. Which is way more bothersome than any question I've read on here. Is there a rule here that says you must reprimand everyone who posts? Just ignore it. Try it one time. You might like it.
HozaTo newbies and questioners.
If you don't have time to rtff and weed out the endless and sometimes needless chatter and you have limited time, my suggestion is to hire a local tour guide for the latest and up to date information. 8 out of 10 taxi drivers can serve your basic needs. Some doormen have good connections. Also there are women tour guides who advertise on CL that can provide what you need and answers to your questions.
Good luck.
What can we learn from your posts history? Selfish, lazy and with poor reasoning skills. Ready for promotion Sir!
Here's an idea. If you don't want to help out with an answer, skip the post. You sound like a broken record. Which is way more bothersome than any question I've read on here. Is there a rule here that says you must reprimand everyone who posts? Just ignore it. Try it one time. You might like it.
HozaHere is another idea, if you do not like WR (or me or anyone else) you can filter out those posters. Unfortunately you cannot do that with the dozens of low posts morons asking lazy questions (yes that would be you I guess).
Go back 50 pages. Brilliant. It must be nice to have the free time you have. You must be a government employee. It's 2015. We're in a time of convenience. Immediate information. Going back 50 pages is so 1950's. You probably still pay your bills via snail mail if I had to guess.
How about just answering the question. That would've save you some time I suspect.
HozaHere is another idea, if there were not so many useless posts you may not need to go back 50 pages.
And no, answering all the repeated questions from the very special snowflakes (yes that would be you I guess) who need their own answer to a question that has been asked maybe dozens of times would only reward that behavior saving no time at all for the rest of the members.
Thanks for the RTFF tip. Haven't heard that one before. Funny how some people assume because they have all the time in the world to sit on a forum. Everyone else must too. Here's the thing. And it's been explained previously. Since you spend so much time RTFF and knew about my viagra question 25 forums away, I'm surprised you haven't committed my previous explanation to memory. The search engine is not very efficient. I don't have time to wade through an 11,000 post thread, hunting and pecking for the few morsels of detail I'm looking for. Perhaps when I'm retired, as I'm guessing you must be, I'll read this forum cover to cover as well. But that's years off.
Funny how some people think that are people are there just to attend their needs. For free. That and the fact that you are too cheap to get PM makes me think you must be coming from some kind of Socialist paradise.
See my previous explanation why avoiding repeated questions makes sense (hint, there are more people in the forum than you).
I get a kick out of the forum lifers who actually think the desired approach to having an interesting forum is to discourage people from posting. I'm sure that's what the owner of this forum strives for. A forum where nobody posts. Perhaps you'd be more entertained by opening up a blank word document and spending your days and nights staring at that. As for me. I enjoy the questions. Asking and answering. After all. I thought we were here to help each other out?This is the only thing you will get out of this then. That and a sticky keyboard I guess. And no, the goal is not to prevent people from posting. The goal is to prevent people from asking individual questions, posts should be either informative or follow up specific questions that elicit additional information.
And now. For no other reason than to ruin your day. Here is a question for anyone less offended by such things. Since I have a limited amount of "free" time. And I have specific standards. Pretty, nubile, drug / disease free. Is it better to go to Burgos or Edsa. Or is it pretty much the same? I'd like to see if there's a consensus on this one. Or just luck of the draw.
Hoza.Ask your sister.
Just updated my Uber app and a pop-up says they are running an experiment to accept cash payments in Manila. "If you don't see the CASH option yet, don't worry. This will be gradually rolled out to more riders soon. Double check your payment method before requesting a ride. ".
If you didn't know, as of two months ago, Uber does not support trips to Angeles or Subic, or anywhere outside Metro Manila. I know because I tried three times on my last arrival. I learned:
Uber drivers are 'hovering' around outside the terminals. I put in a request to SUBIC, and each time a driver took the request in seconds. I know they are notified of my destination because I had Uber do an "estimate" for Subic and 2), on one drivers car I saw my destination indicated on his phone. So they are jumping on ride requests without even looking at the destination.
Each time, when the driver showed up, and I affirmed I was going to Subic, they backed out. One offered to take me to the city limits and leave me there!
Mild scam alert: one driver had started the "trip" before he arrived. Of course that "start the meter early" bit is an old one. I got a refund from Uber promptly.
I don't know when / how we will ever know when they are ready to take fares to AC or Subic. AC at least should be lucrative for them. The white taxis do that a lot.
Here's an idea. If you don't want to help out with an answer, skip the post. You sound like a broken record. Which is way more bothersome than any question I've read on here. Is there a rule here that says you must reprimand everyone who posts? Just ignore it. Try it one time. You might like it.
HozaWhile it may seem rude to you, when someone responds with "RTFF", they are doing you a favor, a much bigger favor than simply ignoring the question.
Most forum questions are more complex than a simple yes or no, and they usually lead to followup questions. Beyond the questions there's often important information that is not covered.
Example: Is this hotel GF? Yes. Are the rooms nice? Yes. Are there any good bars nearby? Yes. Any FLs in the area? Yes. Great, sounds perfect.
Once you get there you discover most of the bars are either gay or ladyboy bars, same with the FLs, the rooms are great but there's no hot water, and there's construction next door that starts at 7 am, all of which was covered 6 weeks ago. Instead of 8 posts, over a period of 2 days, 10 minutes of searching would have, not only answered your questions, but given the information needed to make a better decision. Once armed with that information, you can ask better questions to fill in the gaps.
Perhaps you're young enough to have grown up in the instant gratification age. You're missing out by not taking the time to find the answers. You end up following the herd, going to the same dead spots and waiting in line for your 15 minutes with the same old, worn out women.
While it may seem rude to you, when someone responds with "RTFF", they are doing you a favor, a much bigger favor than simply ignoring the question.
Most forum questions are more complex than a simple yes or no, and they usually lead to followup questions. Beyond the questions there's often important information that is not covered.I could not have come up with a better answer. This should be a must-read for newbies.
To newbies and questioners.
If you don't have time to rtff and weed out the endless and sometimes needless chatter and you have limited time, my suggestion is to hire a local tour guide for the latest and up to date information. 8 out of 10 taxi drivers can serve your basic needs. Some doormen have good connections. Also there are women tour guides who advertise on CL that can provide what you need and answers to your questions.
Good luck.Newbies are in luck today, so much great advice for them. Unfortunately, a few days from now, they may still need to RTFF or do a search. Aah, work work.
Newbies are in luck today, so much great advice for them. Unfortunately, a few days from now, they may still need to RTFF or do a search. Aah, work work.I got a great job and don't have time for friggin work. Or was that RTFF?
I got a great job and don't have time for friggin work. Or was that RTFF?Ain't great that so many of us are on the dole and have so much time to better server our masters?
Regular readers of ISG will know that I strive to ignore those things in the Philippines that I cannot change, but right now, the total shut-down of Manila for 4 days is costing billions of dollars in lost revenue, airline cancellations not to mention peoples' anger and well-being.
Even people in Cavite being forced to walk because of the traffic.
This is the best advice
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/pnp-want-avoid-traffic-stay-000000928.html?linkId=18804824
Asian Rain
11-17-15, 16:12
Regular readers of ISG will know that I strive to ignore those things in the Philippines that I cannot change, but right now, the total shut-down of Manila for 4 days is costing billions of dollars in lost revenue, airline cancellations not to mention peoples' anger and well-being.I was thinking the same thing as my car crept through the trapic. But then I thought it might be a stroke of genius (like Wile E Coyote). These APEC visitors will be thinking how good the economy and situation here must be that they can shut down the entire city whenever such dignitaries or the Pope fly in, so it must be a great place to invest? Just as long as they don't get a sniff of Terminal 1, it just might work. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.
Cunning Stunt
11-18-15, 03:42
Regular readers of ISG will know that I strive to ignore those things in the Philippines that I cannot change, but right now, the total shut-down of Manila for 4 days is costing billions of dollars in lost revenue, airline cancellations not to mention peoples' anger and well-being.
Even people in Cavite being forced to walk because of the traffic.
This is the best advice
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/pnp-want-avoid-traffic-stay-000000928.html?linkId=18804824LOL. I think that I made the right call scarpering off to LOS for 10 days!
Wicked Roger
11-19-15, 00:58
Regular readers of ISG will know that I strive to ignore those things in the Philippines that I cannot change, but right now, the total shut-down of Manila for 4 days is costing billions of dollars in lost revenue, airline cancellations not to mention peoples' anger and well-being.
Even people in Cavite being forced to walk because of the traffic.
This is the best advice
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/pnp-want-avoid-traffic-stay-000000928.html?linkId=18804824Good point RK. APEC is held elsewhere but nowhere I know closes an airport etc because of it. Imagine closing New York every time there was an important meeting of world leaders.
This article from today's Philstar supports your comment.
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/11/19/1523558/airlines-suffer-2-b-losses-apec
It is undoubtedly more and what a show case for the country.
Fast Eddie 48
11-24-15, 02:48
Good point RK. APEC is held elsewhere but nowhere I know closes an airport etc because of it. Imagine closing New York every time there was an important meeting of world leaders.
This article from today's Philstar supports your comment.
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/11/19/1523558/airlines-suffer-2-b-losses-apec
It is undoubtedly more and what a show case for the country.To Wicked Roger.
The Philippines Government have poor transportation system and Infrastrusure, they wonder why they lose the FIBA basketball game and the Asians games to other country don't know why do they really want to show the World how bad they are.
Fast eddie 48.
Wicked Roger
11-24-15, 04:25
To Wicked Roger.
The Philippines Government have poor transportation system and Infrastrusure, they wonder why they lose the FIBA basketball game and the Asians games to other country don't know why do they really want to show the World how bad they are.
Fast eddie 48.I know it lost FIBA as I posted a new link on that months ago that gave FIBA's reasons for choosing China.
They don't think the country is bad FE, they have 'pinoy pride' which is basically if you criticize the place, the government will try and ban you from coming again LOL It tried to ban some journos from going to HK I think as they had questioned all the odd funding by Congress (or something like that).
Having just driven around Makati and to the suburbs in a taxi I ca confirm that much of the infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired.
Good point RK. APEC is held elsewhere but nowhere I know closes an airport etc because of it. Imagine closing New York every time there was an important meeting of world leaders.
This article from today's Philstar supports your comment.
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/11/19/1523558/airlines-suffer-2-b-losses-apec
It is undoubtedly more and what a show case for the country.I'm sure we've all read about the wonderful blue skies in Beijing whenever there is an important international conference or parade. If it costs the Phils a few billion to keep the traffic down, how much in lost revenues do you think it costs to shut down every polluting factory and power plant neighboring the city? They also cut off mobile access in city and close down entire buildings. For the 70th parade, any SOE that lined or was close by to the parade route was closed down and people were not allowed to enter those buildings, in addition to not being allowed to lock desk drawers so that unannounced inspections could check for bombs. The the Phils did pales in comparison to how much China loses every time the do things like this. Yes, the parade is not every year, but international conferences are increasing every year. I can't wait for the Winter Olympics, it's going to be blue skies in winter when usually the air is worse.
Fast Eddie 48
11-24-15, 22:44
I know it lost FIBA as I posted a new link on that months ago that gave FIBA's reasons for choosing China.
They don't think the country is bad FE, they have 'pinoy pride' which is basically if you criticize the place, the government will try and ban you from coming again LOL It tried to ban some journos from going to HK I think as they had questioned all the odd funding by Congress (or something like that).
Having just driven around Makati and to the suburbs in a taxi I ca confirm that much of the infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired.To Wicked Roger.
If The Philippines have to band every tourist that Criticize them have will be no tourist at all most local don't like the government also, if not for the beautiful woman or the cheap pussies there is no need to come here at all.
Fast eddie 48.
FreebieFan
11-25-15, 02:55
I'm sure we've all read about the wonderful blue skies in Beijing whenever there is an important international conference or parade. If it costs the Phils a few billion to keep the traffic down, how much in lost revenues do you think it costs to shut down every polluting factory and power plant neighboring the city? They also cut off mobile access in city and close down entire buildings. For the 70th parade, any SOE that lined or was close by to the parade route was closed down and people were not allowed to enter those buildings, in addition to not being allowed to lock desk drawers so that unannounced inspections could check for bombs. The the Phils did pales in comparison to how much China loses every time the do things like this. Yes, the parade is not every year, but international conferences are increasing every year. I can't wait for the Winter Olympics, it's going to be blue skies in winter when usually the air is worse.You are correct. Those blue skies aka " Apec Blue " were a great sight. But for the 70th anniversary parade of " We beat those Japs " . Oops I mean The 70th anniversary Peace Parade not only was Changan Avenue and Tiananmen closed off, but for the practice run which they did one weekend before the parade, all the surrounding parks were closed of too. I guess they felt that trees and lakes and growing grass was a security threat. Phone networks in Beijing werent shut off for either APEC or the "Peace Parade" that featured nuclear missilles. The cost to average Filipino was huge in terms of disruption during the recent APAC. The Beijing APAC was little actual disuption because so many meetings were held in a town outside Beijing. But the Westin, St Regis, Hilton etc were interesting sights to see for APAC with 25 tanks surrounding the Westin and other hotels, soldiers on the lawn and guys with short hair and earpieces pretending to be random pedestrians.
Well we can wait and see what China will do with APEC in Hangzhou but its certain the city will be locked down in the way that China knows how, just as Manila was sort of grid locked down in the way Manila knows best.
On my few short business trips to Manila I have always made it out to the EDSA Complex and so far I have been pretty lucky with the girls.
From some of the better ones I have kept their mobile phone numbers so I can let them know when I will be in town again. One of them stopped working there a few weeks back, something I just learned when I called her up from the airport. She was quick to let me know that she is still available for company and my trip started well the first night already.
The next night I went down to the EDSA complex to check out something new. Normally I stick around at the Firehouse but somehow the place was totally empty when I arrived. Also the mamasan I know wasn't there so I gave it a try in Pitstop.
The place was also pretty empty and the girls looked quite bored on stage.
I called the mamasan over and bought her a drink, then of course told her my preferences for the girls' services and asked her to give me some recommendations. She pointed at one girl on stage and said she'd highly recommend her and that she would definitely be to my liking. I also had an eye on a cute little spinner there and mamasan said that she was a close friend to the other and also great for my criteria.
So she brought both of them over and we had a great hour together with lots of fun and singing, etc.
When it was time to go back to the hotel the choice was hard to make between the two of them, truth be told I made a mistake when I rejected their proposal for a threesome.
Anyway I chose the little spinner and had a fantastic night with her. Super French kisser, pretty decent BJ and riding me like there is no tomorrow. Before it came to this we had an extended round of 69 with one of the best tasting pussies I had in a very long time.
She was also into being drilled deep and we enjoyed a long lasting session of pounding her tight pussy. While she isn't a screamer she couldn't hide the moment when she climaxed.
I took her out on the following night as well. Actually I had made up my mind to take her friend along this time, but she got picked up by another guy the night before and still stayed with him the day after (just another confirmation that she is likely good as well). Knowing each other added even more positive energy into the mix.
Now back to the question in the headline. The bar fine for EDSA is still the same at 1950, but did the girls' rates change? I kept hearing 2500 for short term and 4000 for long term. I always gave the girls 1500-2000 for short term; long term is not my cup of tea.
Hitman.
On my few short business trips to Manila I have always made it out to the EDSA Complex and so far I have been pretty lucky with the girls.
From some of the better ones I have kept their mobile phone numbers so I can let them know when I will be in town again.
The next night I went down to the EDSA complex to check out something new. Normally I stick around at the Firehouse but somehow the place was totally empty when I arrived. Also the mamasan I know wasn't there so I gave it a try in Pitstop.
Now back to the question in the headline. The bar fine for EDSA is still the same at 1950, but did the girls' rates change? I kept hearing 2500 for short term and 4000 for long term. I always gave the girls 1500-2000 for short term; long term is not my cup of tea.
Hitman.I enjoy the Firehouse also. I try to make it my last stop when I visit EDSA cause I know I will always find a good one in there, and then I hate to leave her to look elsewhere, cause when I return she is gone!! You have the right habit of getting their cell phone, I do the same thing. Now, to the barfine. Glad to hear it is still 1950 p and has not gone up. What you pay the girl is between you and the girl. Mamasan always says, "pay xxxx for the girl". If she like you, she will go for 2,000 p. Maybe mamasans are telling the girls to not go for less than 2500 p, I don't know. I have not been there for 6 months. But in the past it was always possible to counteroffer with 500 p less, and the girl would go, probably cause I look like Chuck Norris or something. Anyway, that's been my experience at EDSA, which by the way, I find more exciting than Burgos. Many of the girls do not stay all night; most like short term, but again, some have stayed all night with me for 2,000 p. Very unpredictable.
Pinaypounder
12-06-15, 07:50
Been to the Phils for years I have friends real friends and fuck friends there.
A lady friend of mine just got her heart broke by some Italian fellow. For weeks he was promising that he would spend 3 weeks with her, meet her Mother and that he was intending to marry her. This asshole represents himself as a Lawyer.
Guys most of us here know better than to fuck with their hearts or at least your should. To the NEWBS you don't need to lie here to get laid, its not like the WEST. Be honest and straight, yes we meet some bad woman who lie, cheat and steal and what do you expect (it aint right but) it is literally a jungle here, I myself have been led astray 3 times this year alone but I still don't lie to them because I am ethical and I have character. Be better than them its pretty easy to do.
They enjoy sex, they enjoy being treated nicely, they enjoy taking care of you and they are for the most are really good women. Respect and appreciate them most of us know we are not getting much back home. I get fucked more here in 3 weeks than I do in a year back home and I NEVER LIE!
Be a good guy, pay them for their time, be polite teach them to fuck, treat them but don't FUCKING TELL THEM YOUR GOING TO MARRY THEM unless you mean it, I will do my best to find this Italian and I will kick the shit out of him like he deserves, good luck getting laid with a busted mouth. And you the Italian she says you have a small cock! Don't worry **** when I am done with you it will be swollen. I have your Skype and more details, I will find you, you weasely little ****, karma is a ***** and I enjoy being the gate keeper whenever possible!
PP.
Pinaypounder
12-06-15, 08:00
WR and I agree to disagree on the phils.
I think it is a DUMP to with some good people and inexpensive sex. I have some great friends here but the culture, the cities, the education, the government, the food, the prices, the pollution, the roads are fucked.
There is hope. If Duarte gets in Change will come hard and fast and perhaps the gutless pinoys will become emboldened to create more change. I have never met a more cowardly group of people. I HOPE SO I really do! This country needs actual leadership and then it has a chance.
I am campaigning for Duarte. But lets not pretend Manila is not one of the 5 worst cities in the world.
I am forced to spend 2 weeks there starting Tuesday and I fucking HATE that city!
PP.
I know it lost FIBA as I posted a new link on that months ago that gave FIBA's reasons for choosing China.
They don't think the country is bad FE, they have 'pinoy pride' which is basically if you criticize the place, the government will try and ban you from coming again LOL It tried to ban some journos from going to HK I think as they had questioned all the odd funding by Congress (or something like that).
Having just driven around Makati and to the suburbs in a taxi I ca confirm that much of the infrastructure leaves a lot to be desired.
MutantChicken
12-06-15, 08:50
Been to the Phils for years I have friends real friends and fuck friends there.
A lady friend of mine just got her heart broke by some Italian fellow. For weeks he was promising that he would spend 3 weeks with her, meet her Mother and that he was intending to marry her. This asshole represents himself as a Lawyer.
Guys most of us here know better than to fuck with their hearts or at least your should. To the NEWBS you don't need to lie here to get laid, its not like the WEST. Be honest and straight, yes we meet some bad woman who lie, cheat and steal and what do you expect (it aint right but) it is literally a jungle here, I myself have been led astray 3 times this year alone but I still don't lie to them because I am ethical and I have character. Be better than them its pretty easy to do.
They enjoy sex, they enjoy being treated nicely, they enjoy taking care of you and they are for the most are really good women. Respect and appreciate them most of us know we are not getting much back home. I get fucked more here in 3 weeks than I do in a year back home and I NEVER LIE!
Be a good guy, pay them for their time, be polite teach them to fuck, treat them but don't FUCKING TELL THEM YOUR GOING TO MARRY THEM unless you mean it, I will do my best to find this Italian and I will kick the shit out of him like he deserves, good luck getting laid with a busted mouth. And you the Italian she says you have a small cock! Don't worry **** when I am done with you it will be swollen. I have your Skype and more details, I will find you, you weasely little ****, karma is a ***** and I enjoy being the gate keeper whenever possible!
PP.Totally agree, and that's why for ease of mind I prefer P4P rather than the dating scene. I indulge in P4P, not so much due to the cost or the service, but rather I don't want to mislead any "innocents".
Wicked Roger
12-06-15, 13:12
WR and I agree to disagree on the phils.
I think it is a DUMP to with some good people and inexpensive sex. I have some great friends here but the culture, the cities, the education, the government, the food, the prices, the pollution, the roads are fucked.
There is hope. If Duarte gets in Change will come hard and fast and perhaps the gutless pinoys will become emboldened to create more change. I have never met a more cowardly group of people. I HOPE SO I really do! This country needs actual leadership and then it has a chance.
I am campaigning for Duarte. But lets not pretend Manila is not one of the 5 worst cities in the world.
I am forced to spend 2 weeks there starting Tuesday and I fucking HATE that city!
PP.PP,
To make sure you can suffer the pain of Manila and at times I merely pass through on my way to Cebu etc will buy you a beer as we agreed, and if you like introduce you to a Greek / anal loving pinay with a nice rack (See you soon.
MutantChicken
12-06-15, 18:01
PP,
To make sure you can suffer the pain of Manila and at times I merely pass through on my way to Cebu etc will buy you a beer as we agreed, and if you like introduce you to a Greek / anal loving pinay with a nice rack (See you soon.I have already thanked you in the past, but just to repeat WR is genuine when he says he can / will intro someone to ABC. So many years ago but I still feel grateful for the intro you gave me in Cebu.
Cunning Stunt
12-07-15, 08:17
Its been a long time since I've contributed a report to this forum. These days I monger far less often than I used to and so tend to gravitate towards known and trusted options from my small but highly select stable of regulars. They invariably have the young and waywardly innocent look that I prefer and know exactly what turns my crank.
But my eye roves as much as ever and I'm always on the look out for fresh new talent. As I only now monger 4-5 times a month, I'm only really interested in the highest quality and fuck the expense. No more cheapo little LA Cafe sluts or bar bimbos for me. I've been there, done that repeatedly and have the scars to prove it. Only finest Pinay prime Wagyu fillet for me nowadays!
Which is what drew me to Seeking Arrangement (SA). This is a site that purportedly aims to match Sugar Daddies up with Sugar Babes in a mutual arrangement, either long or short term, that is beneficial to both. Cheap its isn't for SD's but it is effective providing that maintaining a tight budget is not your primary concern. I have used it successfully a few times in UK to hook up with young, highly attractive student types who need money and are willing to entertain me for a few hours or overnight to obtain it.
The Philippine SA has over 2000 members, mostly in the age range 18-25. Obviously there are professionals amongst their number but these can usually be rapidly weeded out, most easily by insisting on seeing genuine social media material before taking things any further.
When I first set eyes on Leah's profile my immediate thought was that she was too good to be true. A truly stunning 19 year old Psychology student with classical upper class Pinay / Spanish morena looks, I was captivated from the outset. She would also quickly show to be the real deal too as online chat sessions and close scrutiny of her Facebook were to prove.
The arrangement was easily brokered as well. She did not insist on any crap such as a monthly allowance which some of these girls try it on for and was happy with a single very reasonable payment for an overnighter. We were good to go.
One small problem was that she lives and studies in South Luzon. But there are flights to Manila from her home town airport so I book her on a return flight.
Meeting her at Terminal 3, I was initially taken aback at how very tiny and young looking she is. I know that she is 19 because I have seen a photo ID and facebook pictures of her 18th birthday party last year. But that doesn't save me from feeling like a nonce as I escort her through the terminal. She is also very shy and nervous. Intimations of doom send cold shivers up and down my spine. Things are not helped when we are heavily backended in the cab leaving the terminal and have to jump out on the busy exit ramp. Fortunately there was an empty taxi alongside and we were soon on our way.
I have us booked in at the venerable old Manila Hotel on the bay near to Rizal Park. I expect a fuss and close scrutiny of ID's but nothing of the sort and check-in was a breeze. They must be used to old reprobates arriving at the hotel escorting 14 year old looking girls. Or else too busy to notice!
Once in the room, she quickly starts to unwind but I nonetheless give her plenty of space and we spend the first two hours idly chatting which is almost painful for me as I can now see what a cracking little body she has and I just want to jump her bones. She is a bright spark who is able to chat coherently on a variety of topics in a cute Minnie Mouse like voice.
After a while I invite her to join me on the bed which after a little bashful hesitation she assents to.
I'm sure that nobody really wants to hear about what happened over the next 16 hours that we spent in the room. Suffice to say she has just about the best pair of large natural breasts that I have ever seen on such a pint sized Pinay and that she fulfilled her part of the arrangement in spades!
A good result and one that makes me want to try more SA girls.
This is Leah and yes she does look that good.
Nice Guy 99
12-07-15, 09:03
Been to the Phils for years I have friends real friends and fuck friends there.
A lady friend of mine just got her heart broke by some Italian fellow.
I NEVER LIE!
Be a good guy, pay them for their time, be polite teach them to fuck, treat them but don't FUCKING TELL THEM YOUR GOING TO MARRY THEM unless you mean it,
PP.Amen brother.
Its been a long time since I've contributed a report to this forum. These days I monger far less often than I used to and so tend to gravitate towards known and trusted options from my small but highly select stable of regulars. They invariably have the young and waywardly innocent look that I prefer and know exactly what turns my crank.
But my eye roves as much as ever and I'm always on the look out for fresh new talent. As I only now monger 4-5 times a month, I'm only really interested in the highest quality and fuck the expense. No more cheapo little LA Cafe sluts or bar bimbos for me. I've been there, done that repeatedly and have the scars to prove it. Only finest Pinay prime Wagyu fillet for me nowadays!
Which is what drew me to Seeking Arrangement (SA). This is a site that purportedly aims to match Sugar Daddies up with Sugar Babes in a mutual arrangement, either long or short term, that is beneficial to both. Cheap its isn't for SD's but it is effective providing that maintaining a tight budget is not your primary concern. I have used it successfully a few times in UK to hook up with young, highly attractive student types who need money and are willing to entertain me for a few hours or overnight to obtain it.
The Philippine SA has over 2000 members, mostly in the age range 18-25. Obviously there are professionals amongst their number but these can usually be rapidly weeded out, most easily by insisting on seeing genuine social media material before taking things any further.
When I first set eyes on Leah's profile my immediate thought was that she was too good to be true. A truly stunning 19 year old Psychology student with classical upper class Pinay / Spanish morena looks, I was captivated from the outset. She would also quickly show to be the real deal too as online chat sessions and close scrutiny of her Facebook were to prove.
The arrangement was easily brokered as well. She did not insist on any crap such as a monthly allowance which some of these girls try it on for and was happy with a single very reasonable payment for an overnighter. We were good to go.
One small problem was that she lives and studies in South Luzon. But there are flights to Manila from her home town airport so I book her on a return flight.
Meeting her at Terminal 3, I was initially taken aback at how very tiny and young looking she is. I know that she is 19 because I have seen a photo ID and facebook pictures of her 18th birthday party last year. But that doesn't save me from feeling like a nonce as I escort her through the terminal. She is also very shy and nervous. Intimations of doom send cold shivers up and down my spine. Things are not helped when we are heavily backended in the cab leaving the terminal and have to jump out on the busy exit ramp. Fortunately there was an empty taxi alongside and we were soon on our way.
I have us booked in at the venerable old Manila Hotel on the bay near to Rizal Park. I expect a fuss and close scrutiny of ID's but nothing of the sort and check-in was a breeze. They must be used to old reprobates arriving at the hotel escorting 14 year old looking girls. Or else too busy to notice!
Once in the room, she quickly starts to unwind but I nonetheless give her plenty of space and we spend the first two hours idly chatting which is almost painful for me as I can now see what a cracking little body she has and I just want to jump her bones. She is a bright spark who is able to chat coherently on a variety of topics in a cute Minnie Mouse like voice.
After a while I invite her to join me on the bed which after a little bashful hesitation she assents to.
I'm sure that nobody really wants to hear about what happened over the next 16 hours that we spent in the room. Suffice to say she has just about the best pair of large natural breasts that I have ever seen on such a pint sized Pinay and that she fulfilled her part of the arrangement in spades!
A good result and one that makes me want to try more SA girls.
This is Leah and yes she does look that good.Seeking Arrangement maybe good in western countries where generally it is very hard for older men to get good looking girls unless they are prostitutes or escort girls. In Phi where age difference hardly matter one can get really good looking sexy girls through dating sites like DIA. I have flown in many good looking girls from the provinces including virgins and did not have to pay an arm and leg. There are plenty of single mothers and university students looking for some cash who are better looking than than the pic shown. Experience has shown me ultimately it is not the looks but the service which matters for our hobby. It is nice to have an arm candy to go out but the chemistry has to be in place in bed first. There are plenty of very good looking girls in Manila KTV where if you pay good money can be taken out.
Ms Account
12-07-15, 13:21
A girl I knew from Davao had started working at a Japanese KTV in Malate called My First Love First Kiss. If it was not for her I wouldn't have visited. Strange place. 500 per hour all you can drink. 300 sitting fee with minimum of 2 ladies drinks of 300 each. So cheapest you will leave after one hour is 1400 pesos. I was there probably 2 hours and ended up spending 2100 pesos. No VIP room and no barfine. Also discourage culture of meeting customers outside of bar (most of the girls are province girls living in company supplied apartment so very transparent of their movements). Owned by Japanese doctor who was there on the night. 2 hours of listening to Japanese men singing songs on stage (at which every girl claps when you start singing and the girls sitting with you stand on the stage with you - nice girls they are). Every hour the girls do a choreographed dance routine. There was probably 15 girls - 2 quite stunning the rest average. When I left I walked up to LA caf and probably saw 15 similar Japanese KTV's so clearly they have a good following from Japanese clients. The Davao girl told me she is making 15 K per month. My recommendation to any girl is avoid Burgos / Edsa just work in a Japanese KTV. Much easier money.
Cunning Stunt
12-07-15, 15:46
..and did not have to pay an arm and leg. There are plenty of single mothers and university students looking for some cash who are better looking than than the pic shown. Experience has shown me ultimately it is not the looks but the service which matters for our hobby. It is nice to have an arm candy to go out but the chemistry has to be in place in bed first. There are plenty of very good looking girls in Manila KTV where if you pay good money can be taken out.I never said that I paid an arm and leg. I did say she was mine for a single very reasonable amount.
I have used DIA for years and have only twice come across such a level of quality, class and beauty all wrapped up in one small package which I got at the first attempt on SA. But maybe that is because my standards are higher than yours which is why KTV girls generally don't cut it for me anymore.
Asian Rain
12-07-15, 16:08
I never said that I paid an arm and leg. I did say she was mine for a single very reasonable amount.
I have used DIA for years and have only twice come across such a level of quality, class and beauty all wrapped up in one small package which I got at the first attempt on SA. But maybe that is because my standards are higher than yours which is why KTV girls generally don't cut it for me anymore.Hi CS, Thanks for sharing another channel. Probably the first "real new information" shared on the Philippines threads in months and months. Does SA require a paid membership or is it free? Do you see a lot of sugar girls from other countries like Thailand? I did a quick scan but did not want to sign up if I was going to get hit for a bill. Great that you hit a really good experience on the first try, so will be interested to hear if the streak continues and SA can provide consistent cost / performance results. Enjoy, AsianRain.
Wicked Roger
12-07-15, 16:35
Which is what drew me to Seeking Arrangement (SA). This is a site that purportedly aims to match Sugar Daddies up with Sugar Babes in a mutual arrangement, either long or short term, that is beneficial to both. Cheap its isn't for SD's but it is effective providing that maintaining a tight budget is not your primary concern. I have used it successfully a few times in UK to hook up with young, highly attractive student types who need money and are willing to entertain me for a few hours or overnight to obtain it.
Meeting her at Terminal 3, I was initially taken aback at how very tiny and young looking she is. I know that she is 19 because I have seen a photo ID and facebook pictures of her 18th birthday party last year. But that doesn't save me from feeling like a nonce as I escort her through the terminal. She is also very shy and nervous. I have us booked in at the venerable old Manila Hotel on the bay near to Rizal Park. I expect a fuss and close scrutiny of ID's but nothing of the sort and check-in was a breeze. They must be used to old reprobates arriving at the hotel escorting 14 year old looking girls. Or else too busy to notice!
A good result and one that makes me want to try more SA girls..CS,
Good to see an informative FR and glad it was a good experience. Like AR I had a scan but was wondering how much the fee was etc.
Liked your comment about a 'nonce' have not heard that word in a log time and is better than the 'walk of shame' we ted to use LOL.
We are reprobates as we post here and am sure hotels have seen worse (fugly LBs at breakfast with a guest would one of mine so seeing you with Leah would make me ask you about threesome!
I will definitely try this as an alternative to the usual girls I see. All very attractive IMHO and many are bisexual and some very naughty but a change is as good as a rest as they say.
Thanks CS for the information.
Thanks, CS. Is there a website fee or link? Regards.
I never said that I paid an arm and leg. I did say she was mine for a single very reasonable amount.
I have used DIA for years and have only twice come across such a level of quality, class and beauty all wrapped up in one small package which I got at the first attempt on SA. But maybe that is because my standards are higher than yours which is why KTV girls generally don't cut it for me anymore..
Member #4387
12-07-15, 19:24
Thanks, CS. Is there a website fee or link? Regards.
.I am surprised this hidden jewel was not known by the BM's. Its 10 yo or so. I myself used it a few years ago in 1 world countries for fun, and with a few meetups i might add(but i like more the normal way), but in SEA no need as I think I can hit just as good quality through other sources.
A premium membership is a swift US300 for 6months membership.
For members not paying i guess it is the usual deal that u only have a few msg for free(teaser)and at a point u have to decide if u want to register or not against fee as mentioned(u can ofcourse choose 1 month membership as well). But again going into the "sugar daddy" business one should not complain about the fee, as the deal or the idea, upon which sites like this is build upon is to be generous towards the girls:-)
Cunning Stunt
12-08-15, 01:41
Yes, Seeking Arrangement is a subscription site for Sugar Daddies (SDs) at around $75 a month. The logic been I suppose, as Skogis rightly points out, that if you balk at a mere trifle such as 75 bucks, you aint any sort of self respecting sugar daddy a girl would crave.
I was just curious as to whether I could replicate the success I had had with the site in the west, in the much different conditions to be found in the east. Maybe it was a case of beginners luck but it seem that I have. However, there are many other means of hooking up with quality totty out here and SA is just one string to the bow.
And yes, AR, I am already in contact with some intriguing possibilities for my next trips to KL, Singapore and Bangkok. This doesn't just include local girls but also some very interesting western and african girls who I can't wait to meet.
SlutLuster
12-08-15, 03:26
Yes, Seeking Arrangement is a subscription site for Sugar Daddies (SDs) at around $75 a month. The logic been I suppose, as Skogis rightly points out, that if you balk at a mere trifle such as 75 bucks, you aint any sort of self respecting sugar daddy a girl would crave.If you have to ask, you can't afford it, but if you don't ask, you never know.
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of pricing are you seeing from Filipinos on the site?
Slutluster
I enjoy the Firehouse also. I try to make it my last stop when I visit EDSA cause I know I will always find a good one in there, and then I hate to leave her to look elsewhere, cause when I return she is gone!! You have the right habit of getting their cell phone, I do the same thing. Now, to the barfine. Glad to hear it is still 1950 p and has not gone up. What you pay the girl is between you and the girl. Mamasan always says, "pay xxxx for the girl". If she like you, she will go for 2,000 p. Maybe mamasans are telling the girls to not go for less than 2500 p, I don't know. I have not been there for 6 months. But in the past it was always possible to counteroffer with 500 p less, and the girl would go, probably cause I look like Chuck Norris or something. Anyway, that's been my experience at EDSA, which by the way, I find more exciting than Burgos. Many of the girls do not stay all night; most like short term, but again, some have stayed all night with me for 2,000 p. Very unpredictable.Do the ladydrinks count towards the barfine, like in P. Burgos?
I will do my best to find this Italian and I will kick the shit out of him like he deserves, good luck getting laid with a busted mouth. Mamma Mia! That's a spicy meat-ah ball.
And you the Italian she says you have a small cock! . . . when I am done with you it will be swollen.It doesn't read like you intended. Unless you intend to get him hard.
I have your Skype and more details, I will find you, you weasely little ****, karma is a ***** and I enjoy being the gate keeper whenever possible!News Flash: Italian embassy orders its nationals to "stay off Skype" and "avoid details" after threats were made by the previously unknown group 'Gatekeeper of Karma'. Embassy spokesman Gianni Lasagna added: "Mamma Mia. That's a spicy meat-ah ball." Then he frantically waved his hands around to emphasise the point. Asked to comment about the existence of the Gatekeeper of Karma, Buddha serenely said, "Violent vengeance is the central tenet of my philosophy. That and 'every man for himself'. The Italian has a well-deserved ass kickin' coming his way and the Gatekeeper of Karma is just the fella to do so; he does all the ass kickin' on my behalf. I look forward to watching the action on youtube."
RockyHardy21
12-08-15, 18:03
Finally date decided and ticket booked. I will be reaching Manila first than Makati and Cebu. Not a bad idea for 12 days trip. Created a fake fb account and already 10 girls are lined up. Gosh first time I realized I sent friend request to 100 girls and all accepted it. Now the next step out of 100,10 are already waiting for me. Remaining will also reply. Being optimistic is not bad.
Pinay land I love you.
Member #4387
12-08-15, 23:35
Finally date decided and ticket booked. I will be reaching Manila first than Makati and Cebu. Not a bad idea for 12 days trip. Created a fake fb account and already 10 girls are lined up. Gosh first time I realized I sent friend request to 100 girls and all accepted it. Now the next step out of 100,10 are already waiting for me. Remaining will also reply. Being optimistic is not bad.
Pinay land I love you.Just want to throw some ice into your blood if its a long time until you arrive in pinay land. Your girls lined up will, "statistically", only remain so for a good 2 weeks or so. After this they loose interest and take it you are just another one saying you will come but never do. Technically they can say they will meet you if you have told them your arrivaldate and if they haven't been taken by someone else by the time you arrive they will still meet you ofcourse.
But I agree with you in beeing optimistic is not bad. It is the girls you arrange 2 weeks before your arrival you most likely will meet as this is what counts. Not the chit chats had 6 months prior to ones arrival (in my book just a waste of time but again I have done this a few times so I am only saying in my way what works best on my behalf, hehe).
Chocha Monger
12-09-15, 00:10
Been to the Phils for years I have friends real friends and fuck friends there.
A lady friend of mine just got her heart broke by some Italian fellow. For weeks he was promising that he would spend 3 weeks with her, meet her Mother and that he was intending to marry her. This asshole represents himself as a Lawyer.
Guys most of us here know better than to fuck with their hearts or at least your should. To the NEWBS you don't need to lie here to get laid, its not like the WEST. Be honest and straight, yes we meet some bad woman who lie, cheat and steal and what do you expect (it aint right but) it is literally a jungle here, I myself have been led astray 3 times this year alone but I still don't lie to them because I am ethical and I have character. Be better than them its pretty easy to do.
They enjoy sex, they enjoy being treated nicely, they enjoy taking care of you and they are for the most are really good women. Respect and appreciate them most of us know we are not getting much back home. I get fucked more here in 3 weeks than I do in a year back home and I NEVER LIE!.It is strange that a woman would be so broken hearted over that Italian stud pumping and dumping her if his cock was as small as she now claims. The truth is probably he was hung like a Clydesdale, broke her puss, and fucked her like she was never fucked before in her life. It seems like she is bitter about missing out on the visa and financial benefits marriage to a European lawyer may have brought her. She comes across as a vengeful gold digger. The Italian must have seen it coming and dodged the bullet after draining his nuts.
Finally date decided and ticket booked. I will be reaching Manila first than Makati and Cebu. Not a bad idea for 12 days trip. Created a fake fb account and already 10 girls are lined up. Gosh first time I realized I sent friend request to 100 girls and all accepted it. Now the next step out of 100,10 are already waiting for me. Remaining will also reply. Being optimistic is not bad.
Pinay land I love you.Ya, Skogi is right: give us the count AFTER your trip and tell us how many showed out of the ten. The good news is that there will be plenty of replacements available if you go to Burgos Street, LA Cafe, EDSA and the girly bars of Cebu City. Malls are also a target rich environment if you have some game.
Finally date decided and ticket booked. I will be reaching Manila first than Makati and Cebu. Not a bad idea for 12 days trip. Created a fake fb account and already 10 girls are lined up. Gosh first time I realized I sent friend request to 100 girls and all accepted it. Now the next step out of 100,10 are already waiting for me. Remaining will also reply. Being optimistic is not bad.
Pinay land I love you.Do not get your hopes up. I was there two months ago. I also had about 20 lined up. Agreed to stay with me. Once I landed some never answered their phone. Some wanted money for travel. Some wanted permission from their mother. Some wanted to meet for lunch only and that too with her family or friends. You get the picture!
Ultimately in the land of plenty got 3 new girls. Only 2 from the twenty would come through. One girl referred her friend. So all in all trip was good but entirely different than what planned.
RockyHardy21
12-09-15, 06:07
Do not get your hopes up. I was there two months ago. I also had about 20 lined up. Agreed to stay with me. Once I landed some never answered their phone. Some wanted money for travel. Some wanted permission from their mother. Some wanted to meet for lunch only and that too with her family or friends. You get the picture!
Ultimately in the land of plenty got 3 new girls. Only 2 from the twenty would come through. One girl referred her friend. So all in all trip was good but entirely different than what planned.Thanks Sammon. Yeah my hopes are high up as you said I will also be ready for last minute changes.
Let's see where it goes. The 10 who said yes are ready and I promised them to compensate better. Two of them already desired for some gift from duty free. So I hope at least with 30% success rate even if 3 turns up, I am fine.
Thanks anyways.
RockyHardy21
12-09-15, 17:50
Just want to throw some ice into your blood if its a long time until you arrive in pinay land. Your girls lined up will, "statistically", only remain so for a good 2 weeks or so. After this they loose interest and take it you are just another one saying you will come but never do. Technically they can say they will meet you if you have told them your arrivaldate and if they haven't been taken by someone else by the time you arrive they will still meet you ofcourse.
But I agree with you in beeing optimistic is not bad. It is the girls you arrange 2 weeks before your arrival you most likely will meet as this is what counts. Not the chit chats had 6 months prior to ones arrival (in my book just a waste of time but again I have done this a few times so I am only saying in my way what works best on my behalf, hehe).Hey Skogis,
Yeah my arrival date is not too far in a months time. And as you rightly said if not me someone else will take away. I agree. So I by the time I reach there I am talking to girls every day, may be not all of 5% of them turn up, I call it a success. I already expressed Them my desire to compensate too.
I am not a bond so Will sit on whatever leftover.
Hopes are high but never lasted.
One of the peculiar things about Filipinas is that they often require confirmation and reconfirmation of the time and date. Another peculiar thing is that they might want you to pay the taxi fare upon arrival. That means you need to be in the general vicinity. Unfortunately, they express this in a vague way.
And when a lady says she's wearing "black dress", it might not mean she's wearing a black dress. It might mean she's wearing black clothing.
I'm on my way = she got out of bed.
No taxi = she's having food.
Traffic bad = She's got a taxi.
Almost there = She's got a taxi.
Where are you? = She's got a taxi.
Almost there = She's wants to remind you that she's on the way.
Make sure your phone is fully charged as they will text you to death with meaningless drivil. And if you tell them you are low-bat, many of them will continue asking asinine questions until your head explodes.
Finally date decided and ticket booked. I will be reaching Manila first than Makati and Cebu. Not a bad idea for 12 days trip. Created a fake fb account and already 10 girls are lined up. Gosh first time I realized I sent friend request to 100 girls and all accepted it. Now the next step out of 100,10 are already waiting for me. Remaining will also reply. Being optimistic is not bad.
Pinay land I love you.
One of the peculiar things about Filipinas is ..........................................Correct. I call it the "Cellphone Wars" , and surrendered some time ago, preferring sanity instead.
1. I do not give or accept cell phone numbers anymore. 2. I tell them face to face or via Internet the place, date, time, and tell them I will not wait over 30 minutes from appointed time. If not arrived within that time frame I will not be there, forget it. That's what I tell them.
Amazing results. They either don't come and I get on with other stuff, or they come a bit early or within 15 minutes of appointed time. It helps if they have met you face to face, or got ya photo via Internet. Guys like me, have no real problems with this MO , and most importantly, I retain my sanity. LOL.
RockyHardy21
12-11-15, 13:12
Correct. I call it the "Cellphone Wars" , and surrendered some time ago, preferring sanity instead.
1. I do not give or accept cell phone numbers anymore. 2. I tell them face to face or via Internet the place, date, time, and tell them I will not wait over 30 minutes from appointed time. If not arrived within that time frame I will not be there, forget it. That's what I tell them.
Amazing results. They either don't come and I get on with other stuff, or they come a bit early or within 15 minutes of appointed time. It helps if they have met you face to face, or got ya photo via Internet. Guys like me, have no real problems with this MO , and most importantly, I retain my sanity. LOL.Thanks Xman and Sxxx. I already had read your previous posts. Few people can't be missed like you two, Skogis, WickedR (even I have some difference of opinion) on few things. You all guys have already posted so much here, that I feel like I know a lot. So with that knowledge I know what to grab what to not.
Rest is about destiny of my hardy. But still I will make sure my hardy meets softies more than ever.
Thanks greats.
Day 8- I could not forget the 18 year old. Since she is off Sunday she agreed to stay with me Saturday and Sunday till evening. True to her style was very accommodating. Had a great time with her. Yes her one boob is slightly larger than the other one but she enjoys me sucking and squeezing. Gets very turned on when I kiss her neck. She said I am her first foreigner and I believe her. She had one Phi BF before who she says raped her when she was 16. Who knows? Asked about the size she mentioned as " toothpick size" whatever. No offense to anybody here.
By Sunday afternoon had enough. She said she needs to go home get ready for work, wash clothes and with new found money wanted to treat her family.
After she left I got a text from one of the girls I had texted and chatted on DIA. She told me to meet her at Mall of Asia in an hour. Same routine, if I like her she can be with me. She came with her family to meet me in family car no less. Her mother and her came and talked to me. Usual questions like where I am from, what I am doing etc. I got thoroughly bored talking to them. This girl looks like a European girl with very fair skin and quite pretty. The moment I saw her family I knew I am not going to score although while on skype she promised to stay with me. I asked her if she wants to stay with me or stay with family. She replied family. Later she apologized and promised to be with me next time I visit. She said coming with her family was a mistake. Whatever!I've seen several references to DIA as an alternative to Seeking Arrangement (SA), but I'm clueless!
I'm not going to give you the answer because I'm a crotchety old FK who thinks you need to read the thread called "chat rooms and pen pals". Just a clue; Date.
I've seen several references to DIA as an alternative to Seeking Arrangement (SA), but I'm clueless!
LuvAsianTang
12-14-15, 17:08
I've seen several references to DIA as an alternative to Seeking Arrangement (SA), but I'm clueless!Date in Asia a meat market for online scheduling of sexploits in Asia. It's supposed to be for dating but also works for meeting both pro's and single marriage minded pinays.
I'm not going to give you the answer because I'm a crotchety old FK who thinks you need to read the thread called "chat rooms and pen pals". Just a clue; Date.Maybe the bloke wants someone to fuck the girl on his behalf too. Coincidentally X, there's an entire thread in the Philippines forum named D___ I_ A___.
Wicked Roger
12-14-15, 17:38
Date in Asia a meat market for online scheduling of sexploits in Asia. It's supposed to be for dating but also works for meeting both pro's and single marriage minded pinays.Given that he does no RTFF etc if he joins DIA her will see lots of LBs and likely not spot the difference LOL.
Given that he does no RTFF etc if he joins DIA her will see lots of LBs and likely not spot the difference LOL.Spoiler Alert. Now you went and spoiled all the fun.
Chocha Monger
12-15-15, 04:01
An Australian tourist has been roaming the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) since last month begging for money from passengers and employees to buy food.
Michael Morran, 46, has sold his mobile phone for P300 to buy food and bottled water.
Morran claimed that the Australian embassy refused to help him because his situation is not considered an emergency.
He has been sleeping at the waiting area of the NAIA.
Morran told reporters that he arrived in Manila last November from Bangkok where he stayed with a Thai girlfriend for over two months.
He flew to Bangkok in September with enough money to help his girlfriend undergo plastic surgery.
"My girlfriend became pretty after the surgery. But after a couple of weeks her attitude changed," he said.
After running out of money, Morran claimed that his girlfriend's relatives beat him up, prompting him to fly to Manila.
He has not been seen at the airport since last week.
Spoiler Alert. Now you went and spoiled all the fun.Wow read a lot about this DIA for a while never no interest, but I just joined, you guys aren't kidding, within ten min 15 diff girls, might Change my out look for upcoming month long trip! But how much of these girls full of shit and how many very real? I'll read more about it, but any info would be great!
Thanks!
Wow read a lot about this DIA for a while never no interest, but I just joined, you guys aren't kidding, within ten min 15 diff girls, might Change my out look for upcoming month long trip! But how much of these girls full of shit and how many very real? I'll read more about it, but any info would be great!
Thanks!You'll find about half of those girls will try to get you to send money to them. They will need new cell phone, internet camera, money for their son who got bit by a dog, or help with tuition. They will "lose internet connection" or "travel to province" during your visit. Others will just chicken out in actually meeting you. A few will want to bring a friend or two along on the date. When all is said and done, it is easier and often cheaper to hit EDSA complex for a date.
Your experience may differ (I hope) but don't get your hopes up about actually meeting more than a (small) handful. There is a lot of money to be made from DIA and FC. I put in my profile that I don't send money over the internet and I got a lot fewer interests after that, but a better success rate in meeting girls. It helped weed out the scammers.
"I am simple" = I am poor.
"I am a working student" = I am working DIA for money.
Anyway, good luck. If nothing else, it is a cheap form of entertainment while you are pining for the next trip.
You'll find about half of those girls will try to get you to send money to them. They will need new cell phone, internet camera, money for their son who got bit by a dog, or help with tuition. They will "lose internet connection" or "travel to province" during your visit. Others will just chicken out in actually meeting you. A few will want to bring a friend or two along on the date. When all is said and done, it is easier and often cheaper to hit EDSA complex for a date.
Your experience may differ (I hope) but don't get your hopes up about actually meeting more than a (small) handful. There is a lot of money to be made from DIA and FC. I put in my profile that I don't send money over the internet and I got a lot fewer interests after that, but a better success rate in meeting girls. It helped weed out the scammers.
"I am simple" = I am poor.
"I am a working student" = I am working DIA for money.
Anyway, good luck. If nothing else, it is a cheap form of entertainment while you are pining for the next trip.I have to agree with Pete here. I've been on FC for about 2 months, in that little time, a good majority of the girls have tested me by asking for small sums of money. I'm sure they are just trying to open the door for a large cash-out. Watch out for the ones that try to defeat the FC security protocols and ask you for your direct email or FB info.
The real girls (I think) I've met have been very skittish and ultra conservative. I have no doubt it would take several dates just to get them back to the hotel. I think Pete's recommendation for an uncomplicated date is the way to go.
Date in Asia a meat market for online scheduling of sexploits in Asia. It's supposed to be for dating but also works for meeting both pro's and single marriage minded pinays.For those DIA fans (and I am one of them), I can vouch for Kristel03 who lives just outside Angeles. She's a real sweetie with a rockin' body (not evident by her pics), very low maintenance, and not too demanding (albeit a little shy).
I have to agree with Pete here. I've been on FC for about 2 months, in that little time, a good majority of the girls have tested me by asking for small sums of money. I'm sure they are just trying to open the door for a large cash-out. Watch out for the ones that try to defeat the FC security protocols and ask you for your direct email or FB info.
The real girls (I think) I've met have been very skittish and ultra conservative. I have no doubt it would take several dates just to get them back to the hotel. I think Pete's recommendation for an uncomplicated date is the way to go."God Fearing"-I won't have sex with you.
"Looking for age 18-80" - Looking for anyone to send me money.
Particularly watch out for the DIA girls that ask for Skype or I'm right off the bat. They know that they risk a ban from DIA if they mention money. I got banned for awhile for offering to pay back a girl's taxi fare.
Here is a typical FC email exchange-.
From girl: "Hello, I'm okay. How about you? I live alone. I am a working student. I work when I have a free time in school but my savings isn't enough for my daily needs. I'm looking for a serious relationship. How about you?
Me: "Just looking for a holiday girlfriend. Take care. ".
Girl:"That's good. I can also be your holiday girlfriend.
We shall see.
Pinaypounder
12-18-15, 00:38
Correct. I call it the "Cellphone Wars" , and surrendered some time ago, preferring sanity instead.
1. I do not give or accept cell phone numbers anymore. 2. I tell them face to face or via Internet the place, date, time, and tell them I will not wait over 30 minutes from appointed time. If not arrived within that time frame I will not be there, forget it. That's what I tell them.
Amazing results. They either don't come and I get on with other stuff, or they come a bit early or within 15 minutes of appointed time. It helps if they have met you face to face, or got ya photo via Internet. Guys like me, have no real problems with this MO , and most importantly, I retain my sanity. LOL.I follow your MO also, BUT it needs to be guarded, sometimes these girls travel for hours and then you either accept them or throw them away, I suggest a small transport fee be involved 2 - 300 pesos.
Been here 10 days now travelling sucks.
I had big success witth Tinder!
PP.
Fast Eddie 48
12-18-15, 03:28
Wow read a lot about this DIA for a while never no interest, but I just joined, you guys aren't kidding, within ten min 15 diff girls, might Change my out look for upcoming month long trip! But how much of these girls full of shit and how many very real? I'll read more about it, but any info would be great!
Thanks!To Racshack.
It is not that easy don't get your hope too high many of this girl just want your money and marriage and the picture are fake, so it is better for you to go p4 p.
Fast eddie 48.
FreebieFan
12-18-15, 04:28
To Racshack.
It is not that easy don't get your hope too high many of this girl just want your money and marriage and the picture are fake, so it is better for you to go p4 p.
Fast eddie 48.Frankly, having used DIA with great success over the past ten years I would not agree with Eddie at all. I think there's a vast difference between a guy who is visiting and hoping to score a few holiday girls and is perhaps clearly not going to be in town for long, and someone who is more familiar with the country, the people, the language and can show to the girsl that they, for want of a better word "established.
Look at it from the girls point of view. If you are only staying for a few weeks the girls know you want to achieve a lot of scores in that time, vs someone who lives there, or travels there frequently, has unlimited potential.
Most girls will hope for marriage as the ultimate prize but many of very realistic and know that they will have a few dates with you and accept that.
Some girls will try for the money play but generally its easy to spot and ignore those.
For the experienced monger, who knows the buttons to press and has some language at his disposal that establishes him as more than just someone passing through, DIA, and all the other sites is a rich rewarding sea from which there can be a bountiful harvest.
Quick report. I spend a lot of time (months) on DIA and FilipinoCupid. Most profiles are with just one photo and are fakes. My estimate is only 10% are genuine for 18-25 age range. And yes, most of them want marriage, etc. Just before arriving to Manila, I sent out 10-20 messages. Got back 3 solid leads. Waited for one for one hour in Mall of Asia. Got a SMS from her she is in traffic and will arrive at 9 pm (original meeting time was 6 pm). So, I just took a taxi to EDSA Entertainment, which is just 5-15 min taxi ride from MallOfAsia.
NOTE: Taxi driver kept talking about a different and much better place: Asian Entertainment Center (next / opposite casino). Anyhow, I got to EDSA at about 8 pm, and it was literally no customers, and full of girls. I checked out Pitstop, and some other place, then stopped at Firehouse. Asked mamasan to recommend me a girl. Paid bar fine 2000-PHP plus one lady drink 400. Took the girl for overnight, agreed to 4000. Great girl / person, great sex, great body, we even went to see a movie together the next day. I am new to this so I am still smiling from this religious experience. So my verdict so far, DIA is a time-waster (at least for me). Just pay the money, at least you know what you are getting.
So I usually don"t go to La Cafe anymore because of the lack of talent. When I do go I sit upstairs and enjoy the bands and actually pretty darn good Bar food for the price. I had the chicken quesadilla and it was great, big and well worth the price. Plus also the alcohol is priced fair so no complaints if you can enjoy those things.
But, no lookers I could find. It seemed like all girls were over 35 and can't work in a bar anymore because of lack of looks. Really disappointing in the talent there. Hopefully it was a one off and things will get back again. I thought with Christmas coming there might be a lot of sexy ones out looking for money.
Member #4387
12-18-15, 13:15
Frankly, having used DIA with great success over the past ten years I would not agree with Eddie at all. I think there's a vast difference between a guy who is visiting and hoping to score a few holiday girls and is perhaps clearly not going to be in town for long, and someone who is more familiar with the country, the people, the language and can show to the girsl that they, for want of a better word "established.
Look at it from the girls point of view. If you are only staying for a few weeks the girls know you want to achieve a lot of scores in that time, vs someone who lives there, or travels there frequently, has unlimited potential.
Most girls will hope for marriage as the ultimate prize but many of very realistic and know that they will have a few dates with you and accept that.
Some girls will try for the money play but generally its easy to spot and ignore those.
For the experienced monger, who knows the buttons to press and has some language at his disposal that establishes him as more than just someone passing through, DIA, and all the other sites is a rich rewarding sea from which there can be a bountiful harvest.Even if I don't agree totaly with you, I at least disagree highly with Fast Eddie. Reason i disagree minor with u is that it is perfectly ok just beeing a visitor short time and score big time, hehe:-) Like you I have used DIA for 10 years or so. Stopped maybe 2-3 years ago. Still it issame same. It is no problem forguys likeme scorebig time even if I just stay here a few days. I come many times a year so thatmight add up, who knows?
If I go back these years I wasnt assucessful as of todaybut still I had a high success rate (meaning fucking). I haveseen a few scammers in DIA but they are outnumbered by girls. Girls either try sex you for money or relationshiplooking girls. I've allways hunted from the latter part but donated money to them and probably made them P4 P if they wanted or not As a general rule, no one leaves my room emptyhanded. Would made me feel like shit.
Member #4387
12-18-15, 13:29
So I usually don"t go to La Cafe anymore because of the lack of talent. When I do go I sit upstairs and enjoy the bands and actually pretty darn good Bar food for the price. I had the chicken quesadilla and it was great, big and well worth the price. Plus also the alcohol is priced fair so no complaints if you can enjoy those things.
But, no lookers I could find. It seemed like all girls were over 35 and can't work in a bar anymore because of lack of looks. Really disappointing in the talent there. Hopefully it was a one off and things will get back again. I thought with Christmas coming there might be a lot of sexy ones out looking for money.All in humoristic ways I want to add that I also did have the foods at LA Cafe (maybe it was the time it was called MBC) all to notice a cockroach running over my french fries at the table. Maybe they have blocked the pipes by now as this is a couple of years ago. Even with the roach walking over my foods it wasnt that bad.
LAC / MBC. After I met someone I'd order a big plate of pancit. It was (maybe still is) too big to eat. Get the gal to invite her friends. Have a little dinner party, make friends. It can be fun but the place across the street isn't bad. I prefer the Shwarma place though.
The cockroaches are part of the charm of this place, both the insects and the human types.
The guys who've posted about DIA (it has become an acronym, BTW) there is a dedicated forum for "chat", and whatever.
All in humoristic ways I want to add that I also did have the foods at LA Cafe (maybe it was the time it was called MBC) all to notice a cockroach running over my french fries at the table. Maybe they have blocked the pipes by now as this is a couple of years ago. Even with the roach walking over my foods it wasnt that bad.
My mongering experiences are full of dating sites, since I am not into bar hoping as some other fellow mongers does. In whatever cover, once the girl arrive in my room I always compensate the girl with money.
For Philippine, some girls no money, some asks to be compensated in different way; some asks straight. But scammers! I am fortunate I met none. If any girl ask money before hand of first meeting, I just cut off her. It does not make any sense sending money to some one whom we never met. My success rate I would say (I made Philippine tour twice only in 2015) I would say highly satisfied. Only one failure I get, when I arrive in manila, it was shown she is in Samar. But I would not say it is a failure because it is been confirmed by her that we are going to meet in my next tour. May be I get the success just because of my age limit; since I don't bother to answer less than age of 28 yrs. It is just my taste. More over I choose those girls around the city I am going to travel. Study the map before hand and make my clear idea how much she might be going to spend to meet me. If she is so far, I just don't bother.
As per reading the reports of fellow mongers about dating sites, now I can realize it might be depends on the person's perspective. The girls we met in dating sites I can say 80% are not from P4 P scene. They have own social existence, might be in hunt of their survivals. So it will be wise to safe there faces in any cover like relationship or natural human feelings. But it is necessary to be truthful to them; at least making a clear hint what may going to happen after the first meet.
Be sure good compensation would safe the face of both side.
So I usually don"t go to La Cafe anymore because of the lack of talent. When I do go I sit upstairs and enjoy the bands and actually pretty darn good Bar food for the price. I had the chicken quesadilla and it was great, big and well worth the price. Plus also the alcohol is priced fair so no complaints if you can enjoy those things.
But, no lookers I could find. It seemed like all girls were over 35 and can't work in a bar anymore because of lack of looks. Really disappointing in the talent there. Hopefully it was a one off and things will get back again. I thought with Christmas coming there might be a lot of sexy ones out looking for money.You not wrong there, I was also there on Saturday night, but ended up taking 18 year old hottie from EDSA firehouse, bit expensive at 1950 bar fine plus a 2500 payment to the girl, but dam hot, I'm here in AC at the moment if anyone want to hook up, I'll be with 2 others members hunting in pack which in my opinion is a lot better than walking into clubs alone, and of course sharing the expense.
WazWallaby
12-23-15, 11:24
Dear all mongers in the Flips,
Hope you have a great Christmas and New Year!
I have had a ball, literally. I have found this year that making a stopover in manila on my way between Sydney and Europe has excellent dividends. 2,3 or 4 night stopover in the comfy Sofitel Hotel. Nothing like a sunset over the bay, a poolside martini and a hunny hungrily sucking cock! Hihi. With craigslist, date in Asia and Filipino cupid end up with me meeting some beaut women, strong, independent and fun and fucking my nuts off with pure pinay pudenda every fucking time! Yipee! Want to send a big shout out to a handful of happy, horny, humping' hunnies. Thanks so much Delilah, Trina, Maria and Sharon. Not their real names, but they know who they are, in particular. Top notch ladies who made this man welcome in their hometown.
Guys, all you boys out their in pinay-land, keep the reports and fotos rolling in, great reading as we fuck ourselves dry on the sweetest gals in the whole damn world! Have a good festive season and see you all next year. Stay safe.
Wazz
Fastpiston
01-03-16, 02:52
You not wrong there, I was also there on Saturday night, but ended up taking 18 year old hottie from EDSA firehouse, bit expensive at 1950 bar fine plus a 2500 payment to the girl, but dam hot, I'm here in AC at the moment if anyone want to hook up, I'll be with 2 others members hunting in pack which in my opinion is a lot better than walking into clubs alone, and of course sharing the expense.Looks like Philippines has now caught up with most developing countries at US $100 for full service. Not like a few years ago, sad.
Hello gents,
I am looking for some advise, and yes I did RTFF. I've been to Manila a couple of times on short biz trips (I posted). My hunting ground was mostly EDSA where I booked Short Term.
My next trip will include a work free weekend and I intend to spend the weekend with company. Ideally she would show me around town a bit, have some nice food and probably go to one of the clubs to hit the floor.
Of course there is always the option to take a girl out of EDSA and arrange a long term stay (I guess this would include paying multiple days bar fine on top of her tip). Has anyone done this before? Are the girls likely up for this?
I also considered DIA and Mingles2 both of which I just set up an account. I am not texting anyone on DIA yet since they require a pic for that (obviously I am not willing to put my real pic up there). How do you deal with the picture topic?
I also understand that it may involve a lot of back and forth to get something solid lined up.
I do have a "plan be" with an Ex-EDSA girl whose number I kept, but she is a bit "over-tatooed" to hang out an entire weekend.
Any other best practises to share?
Thanks -- hitman.
Looks like Philippines has now caught up with most developing countries at US $100 for full service. Not like a few years ago, sad.As I posted on my recent EDSA experience. The girls' expectations certainly rose in the last 6 months.
Hello gents,
I am looking for some advise, and yes I did RTFF. I've been to Manila a couple of times on short biz trips (I posted). My hunting ground was mostly EDSA where I booked Short Term.
My next trip will include a work free weekend and I intend to spend the weekend with company. Ideally she would show me around town a bit, have some nice food and probably go to one of the clubs to hit the floor.
Of course there is always the option to take a girl out of EDSA and arrange a long term stay (I guess this would include paying multiple days bar fine on top of her tip). Has anyone done this before? Are the girls likely up for this?
I also considered DIA and Mingles2 both of which I just set up an account. I am not texting anyone on DIA yet since they require a pic for that (obviously I am not willing to put my real pic up there). How do you deal with the picture topic?.Many of the ladies at LA Cafe give a good appearance, speak fluent English and willing to be guides. One lady offered just that to me with no obligation to pay her. We went to several music clubs, the casino and spent the night. Naturally I.
Paid her.
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BrainDrain
01-06-16, 03:36
Hello gents,
I am looking for some advise, and yes I did RTFF. I've been to Manila a couple of times on short biz trips (I posted). My hunting ground was mostly EDSA where I booked Short Term.
My next trip will include a work free weekend and I intend to spend the weekend with company. Ideally she would show me around town a bit, have some nice food and probably go to one of the clubs to hit the floor.With such a short time, it's good to have someone lined up.
If you have some time to do some research, use the dating sites, carry on the conversations for a few weeks. The will give you a shortlist. Last few trips upon arrival at NAIA I have been met by ladies. The last trip she was site unseen until I arrived. Worked out well. Sometimes girls will say they will meet but start backing out a week earlier. Over time you will know the genuine girls.
If you are just starting out in Philippines it is always a good policy to first meet the girl away from your hotel. If your first visit, then maybe having a girl meet you at airport might be hard.
Of course there is always the option to take a girl out of EDSA and arrange a long term stay (I guess this would include paying multiple days bar fine on top of her tip). Has anyone done this before? Are the girls likely up for this?Most probably girls are up for anything but many of these girls will want to go back and sleep during the day. They become nocturnal.
I also considered DIA and Mingles2 both of which I just set up an account. I am not texting anyone on DIA yet since they require a pic for that (obviously I am not willing to put my real pic up there). How do you deal with the picture topic?I have a friend whom is a good likeness for more. If the girl comments that I look different to the pic, I just say I've been working out. They don't care.
I also understand that it may involve a lot of back and forth to get something solid lined up.
I do have a "plan be" with an Ex-EDSA girl whose number I kept, but she is a bit "over-tatooed" to hang out an entire weekend.
Plan B are good. She might even be a good Plan A to meet you with certainty and you can already trust her. You can always let her go first morning if you have another certainty. You don't want to be searching for girls when you should be enjoying your weekend. It is much easier once you are on the ground in Ph.
Any other best practises to share?
Don't give girls you specific itinerary. Maybe you arrive Sunday, when really you arrive Saturday. Even the girl that you want for 2-3 days, maybe she thinks you are there for 4-5 days, 1-2 days, no need to be specific and leaves you flexibility if you need to move on "for business" which is an easy way to get clear of someone. Many Filipina do not plan too far ahead anyway.
One time I arrived into Cebu airport and at the time my policy was not to have girls meet upon arrival. As I walked towards the taxi rank, a girl called my monger name and asked if it was me. She had my arrival date from an earlier conversation and must have approached every westerner that day. She came for a taxi ride and she was swiftly dealt with.
From your weeks of research, give yourself a shortlist in a separate document which includes their name, CP, email and link to their profile. Rank them.
Do enter their names into your phone so you know whom is calling. Do be aware that the number they reply from may well be different to the number you first text. And they don't give you there name when they reply. You will need to save both numbers to the contact.
For naming convention on my phone I use "Anzela Manila PH", "Emzi Cebu PH". On the flight home I delete all contacts with "Ph". You also need to remove these names form Recents. When I was back in Australia after having carefully deleted all of the names, every time I send a text to my business partner Phil and had typed Ph into the To box on my sms, the phone gave me lots of 'helpful' suggestions and memories. Delete Recents!
On my phone I also adjust the "Settings" so that messages and missed calls don't display on the Locked screen.
I can't wait to get back there.
BD
Blanquiceleste
01-06-16, 15:43
Many Filipina do not plan too far ahead anyway.
This sentence would read better this way. Filipina do not plan. 5555.
If you have some time to do some research, use the dating sites, carry on the conversations for a few weeks. The will give you a shortlist. Last few trips upon arrival at NAIA I have been met by ladies. The last trip she was site unseen until I arrived. Worked out well. Sometimes girls will say they will meet but start backing out a week earlier. Over time you will know the genuine girls.
If you are just starting out in Philippines it is always a good policy to first meet the girl away from your hotel. If your first visit, then maybe having a girl meet you at airport might be hard.
Most probably girls are up for anything but many of these girls will want to go back and sleep during the day. They become nocturnal.
I have a friend whom is a good likeness for more. If the girl comments that I look different to the pic, I just say I've been working out. They don't care.
Plan B are good. She might even be a good Plan A to meet you with certainty and you can already trust her. You can always let her go first morning if you have another certainty. You don't want to be searching for girls when you should be enjoying your weekend. It is much easier once you are on the ground in Ph.
Don't give girls you specific itinerary. Maybe you arrive Sunday, when really you arrive Saturday. Even the girl that you want for 2-3 days, maybe she thinks you are there for 4-5 days, 1-2 days, no need to be specific and leaves you flexibility if you need to move on "for business" which is an easy way to get clear of someone. Many Filipina do not plan too far ahead anyway.
One time I arrived into Cebu airport and at the time my policy was not to have girls meet upon arrival. As I walked towards the taxi rank, a girl called my monger name and asked if it was me. She had my arrival date from an earlier conversation and must have approached every westerner that day. She came for a taxi ride and she was swiftly dealt with.
From your weeks of research, give yourself a shortlist in a separate document which includes their name, CP, email and link to their profile. Rank them.
Do enter their names into your phone so you know whom is calling. Do be aware that the number they reply from may well be different to the number you first text. And they don't give you there name when they reply. You will need to save both numbers to the contact.
For naming convention on my phone I use "Anzela Manila PH", "Emzi Cebu PH". On the flight home I delete all contacts with "Ph". You also need to remove these names form Recents. When I was back in Australia after having carefully deleted all of the names, every time I send a text to my business partner Phil and had typed Ph into the To box on my sms, the phone gave me lots of 'helpful' suggestions and memories. Delete Recents!
On my phone I also adjust the "Settings" so that messages and missed calls don't display on the Locked screen.
I can't wait to get back there.
BDSome excellent advice here BrainDrain. Specially the part around managing the contacts and sanitizing the phone, love it!
And finally, about getting back there. I just came back on Sunday and I can't wait to go back. Reports to follow over the weekend. The opening week of 2016 has been rough at work!
On the flight home I delete all contacts with "Ph".
I can't wait to get back there.
If you want to keep these contacts for future meetings back them up to the SD memory card. Then swap the SD card for a clean one.
With such a short time, it's good to have someone lined up.
If you have some time to do some research, use the dating sites, carry on the conversations for a few weeks. The will give you a shortlist. Last few trips upon arrival at NAIA I have been met by ladies. The last trip she was site unseen until I arrived. Worked out well. Sometimes girls will say they will meet but start backing out a week earlier. Over time you will know the genuine girls.
If you are just starting out in Philippines it is always a good policy to first meet the girl away from your hotel. If your first visit, then maybe having a girl meet you at airport might be hard.
Most probably girls are up for anything but many of these girls will want to go back and sleep during the day. They become nocturnal.
I have a friend whom is a good likeness for more. If the girl comments that I look different to the pic, I just say I've been working out. They don't care.
Plan B are good. She might even be a good Plan A to meet you with certainty and you can already trust her. You can always let her go first morning if you have another certainty. You don't want to be searching for girls when you should be enjoying your weekend. It is much easier once you are on the ground in Ph.I've often received great tips on this forum but this post really stands out. Thanks for putting so much effort into your reply. Also on behalf of many other silent readers that will benefit big time.
Hitman.
Wander Luster
01-09-16, 06:33
Been to the Phils for years I have friends real friends and fuck friends there.
A lady friend of mine just got her heart broke by some Italian fellow. For weeks he was promising that he would spend 3 weeks with her, meet her Mother and that he was intending to marry her. This asshole represents himself as a Lawyer.
Guys most of us here know better than to fuck with their hearts or at least your should. To the NEWBS you don't need to lie here to get laid, its not like the WEST. Be honest and straight, yes we meet some bad woman who lie, cheat and steal and what do you expect (it aint right but) it is literally a jungle here, I myself have been led astray 3 times this year alone but I still don't lie to them because I am ethical and I have character. Be better than them its pretty easy to do.
PP.Well said! Do you consider yourself a sociopath or psychopath day to day in the West? Do you go to poor parts of your city to steal from the folks more unfortunate? If so, than I hope you suffer for your depraved ways. And, treating girls in the PH with lies is the same. Do that and you are the above + a flat out looser. No need to break hearts in the PH.
Wander Luster
01-09-16, 06:39
WR and I agree to disagree on the phils.
I think it is a DUMP to with some good people and inexpensive sex. I have some great friends here but the culture, the cities, the education, the government, the food, the prices, the pollution, the roads are fucked.
There is hope. If Duarte gets in Change will come hard and fast and perhaps the gutless pinoys will become emboldened to create more change. I have never met a more cowardly group of people. I HOPE SO I really do! This country needs actual leadership and then it has a chance.
I am campaigning for Duarte. But lets not pretend Manila is not one of the 5 worst cities in the world.
I am forced to spend 2 weeks there starting Tuesday and I fucking HATE that city!
PP.I kinda, sorta agree. But more precisely, I would just say the country is like the serfdom of England in 1600. Fact is, 60 families control the country, and the fault is not all with the populace. The "rules" were made to ensure the control is absolute. I'm off to read about your "Duarte". I've not kept up on the politics.
They need to take all the scum-bag top. 1% rich and send them to a refugee camp in Africa to suffer. Those families are some of the most horrible people in the world.
Wander Luster
01-09-16, 06:45
Do not get your hopes up. I was there two months ago. I also had about 20 lined up. Agreed to stay with me. Once I landed some never answered their phone. Some wanted money for travel. Some wanted permission from their mother. Some wanted to meet for lunch only and that too with her family or friends. You get the picture!
Ultimately in the land of plenty got 3 new girls. Only 2 from the twenty would come through. One girl referred her friend. So all in all trip was good but entirely different than what planned.Similar experience last February for me. Most of the Internet, PH heart, I spent too much time messaging. Do not message more than 5 times or skype more than a short time! 1/2 of that will wind up being a disappointment. Weird thing was I met the most incredible chick through a PH heart girl I became "friends" with. So it also serves to help with connections. Do NOT get too connected via online before you are on the ground. Too many of the girls are not 100% what they seem-- maybe you are also not 100% truthful to them since it's 1/2 way around the world? Use online as an "introduction service" with nothing more.
Wander Luster
01-09-16, 06:55
Wow read a lot about this DIA for a while never no interest, but I just joined, you guys aren't kidding, within ten min 15 diff girls, might Change my out look for upcoming month long trip! But how much of these girls full of shit and how many very real? I'll read more about it, but any info would be great!
Thanks!It's BS. Pay a very little to PH heart and save 5 X the time.
Wander Luster
01-09-16, 07:01
So I usually don"t go to La Cafe anymore because of the lack of talent. When I do go I sit upstairs and enjoy the bands and actually pretty darn good Bar food for the price. I had the chicken quesadilla and it was great, big and well worth the price. Plus also the alcohol is priced fair so no complaints if you can enjoy those things.
But, no lookers I could find. It seemed like all girls were over 35 and can't work in a bar anymore because of lack of looks. Really disappointing in the talent there. Hopefully it was a one off and things will get back again. I thought with Christmas coming there might be a lot of sexy ones out looking for money.I was there last Feb, 2015. It was like a pick-up bar in the West but you KNOW you will get laid-- for some $$, and much less than the EDSA bars. So, yea, 96% of girls I have no interest. But the 4% I had fun chatting up and taking out and some were very new to P4 P. Did it decline in the past year? I had already declined a LOT.
Wander Luster
01-09-16, 07:07
My mongering experiences are full of dating sites, since I am not into bar hoping as some other fellow mongers does. In whatever cover, once the girl arrive in my room I always compensate the girl with money.
For Philippine, some girls no money, some asks to be compensated in different way; some asks straight. But scammers! I am fortunate I met none. If any girl ask money before hand of first meeting, I just cut off her. It does not make any sense sending money to some one whom we never met. My success rate I would say (I made Philippine tour twice only in 2015) I would say highly satisfied. Only one failure I get, when I arrive in manila, it was shown she is in Samar. But I would not say it is a failure because it is been confirmed by her that we are going to meet in my next tour. May be I get the success just because of my age limit; since I don't bother to answer less than age of 28 yrs. It is just my taste. More over I choose those girls around the city I am going to travel. Study the map before hand and make my clear idea how much she might be going to spend to meet me. If she is so far, I just don't bother.
As per reading the reports of fellow mongers about dating sites, now I can realize it might be depends on the person's perspective. The girls we met in dating sites I can say 80% are not from P4 P scene. They have own social existence, might be in hunt of their survivals. So it will be wise to safe there faces in any cover like relationship or natural human feelings. But it is necessary to be truthful to them; at least making a clear hint what may going to happen after the first meet.
Be sure good compensation would safe the face of both side.Thanks for echoing about being a gentleman. I hate nothing more than those that think they are cool by manipulating girls from PH.
I have to disagree about the dating online, but my experience is on FH. On there, most girls are looking for BF or Green Card. Many have a child because so many native PH guys ride bare-back and then essentially "chew and screw" and take off if girl gets pregnant. It's pretty obvious in messaging if they are P4 P and most aren't.
AttorneyPunani
01-09-16, 18:56
There are a number of sites for PSPs in the Philippines. As I understand the rules of this forum though, can't share, except to say that they delineate among the blue, red, and white (at one time at least). Nowadays, there's one with initials EOD, PPO / ACR, AWR, and a couple of other.
Although there are more than enough group sites on FB. And there are tons of FB Profiles advertising that they go on "walks" or "coffee" as they call it.
Spent two weeks in Malate from New Year to mid month. Nice apartments with great sea view provided by employer. By way of background I was a single 60-year-old guy who knows Philippines moderately well.
Bars: LA Caf you can read lots of opinions but I found it pretty grim. Visited many times at different times of day, close to New Year when many girls are in the province but also later. I encountered mostly hard looking women who were unappealing relative to other options but never took out. Amazonia was worse just awful looking crew and did not bother with other bars.
Discos Main Discos are Exclusiv and ZZZYZX (or whatever the F the name is). Hit Exclusiv many times arriving between midnight and 2 am. With only one exception it had no buzz not many people, most on their phones, geeky K-guys dancing on stage. Time to leave! One Saturday night it had a moderate crowd. Can't imagine when they would ever use the upstairs part. Saw no obvious FL scene but landed normal girls from groups of 4-5 (both said it was their first visit) on separate nights. One 20 year and one mid 30's. I would not have given either a second glance in Angeles but my weiner was in charge at that point. Both poor in bed - 2000 each for LT though one I sent home at 3 am she was so inept.
ZZYZXX in contrast was buzzing with a good crowd every night I went. But it is a hard gig for a western guy especially one a bit older like me. 99.99% Korean guys, lots of FLs many looking good but they would not speak to me nor accept a drink. Probably Ok if you took someone from outside for the dancing.
FL scene at Robinson's was OK. Main gathering spot is Starbucks both inside and outside the actual caf. But multiple others encountered throughout in Food Court and Supermarket. Security leaves them alone. Took one 1500 for ST who was an OK performer.
Managed online girls coming over for the most part. Filipino Cupid had plenty of takers and surprisingly many hits on Tinder. However, a lot of these turned out out to be lady boys!. I just go and swipe quickly so obviously I "liked" them at some point but I think its easier to unmatch them rather than wading through the profiles before deciding to swipe left or right. So many of the others say they don't want hook-ups isn't that what Tinder is about? Some girls who just came out and stated their price. Most were dreaming in my opinion wanting $US100-$200 for all night for no guarantee on service. But prob Ok if you are horny and happy to risk the cash. But a lot of hits and not many actually turning up to meet.
I think that's about all? Robinsons has most of what you need, Uber works well but if I had not been set up there for work by my boss, I would not have stayed in Malate. The times I ventured over to Makati for nightlife were way better in both the quality and attitudes of girls.
IllusionHeart
01-10-16, 17:14
December 27 (Day 1: Saturday)
I returned to Singapore from Jakarta on 26 Dec by a late afternoon Lion Air flight. Went home to freshen up and then begin the second leg of my winter break.
I had connected with BlanquiCeleste after reading his travel plan to the Philippines on the forum thread. As he was also flying from Singapore it was logical for me to join him. His itinerary was exactly same as mine and I had also booked same hotels and duration of stay. 3 Nights in Manila and 4 nights in AC. My original plan was to spend New Year's Eve in AC and if things were not good then come back to Manila. But with Blanqui along I was sure of having a good time in AC despite the reports about rejections and quality girls not being available during this time of the year.
We landed on time in Manila. Luggage took some time as 2 flights had landed at the same time causing some crowding near the belt. Meanwhile I picked up a carton of cigarettes from Duty Free. This proved to be a mistake again as these turned out to be much cheaper at convenience stores in Manila and in AC. Blanqui suggested that we should go to the Hotel directly and try our luck. I agreed and we were off in a taxi within minutes. As we reached the Hotel by 5:30 am, Blanqui approached the front desk and requested for an early check in. Now since we had reservations from 27 Dec onwards and the standard check-in time was only 2 pm, we anticipated a half day charge at the minimum to be levied for such an early check in. We were anticipating a half day room extra charge considering we were in Hotel at 6 am. Thanks to Blanqui's convincing request we got two rooms without additional charge and on the same floor. The young lad at the front desk Jeremy was very helpful throughout the check-in process and made us feel welcome. I now loved this Hotel even more. This was my second stay here and now they had won me as a returning guest with this kind gesture. Since we had not slept well on the flight we decided to catch some shut-eye and reconnected around noon.
We went to Robinsons first and got ourselves a SMART 4 G data card with 1. 5 GB valid for 15 days at 299 + 40 peso for the card. We had to get some food, so decided to go to "Munchen Pub and Grill" on Mabini Street opposite City State Tower Hotel. Thanks to Hutsori for mentioning this restaurant in earlier post. A pint of Paulaner and some Bratwurst / Currywurst really made our day. This surely was going to be our preferred meal joint for the next few days.
After the hearty meal we walked over to LA Caf (the Board still says LA Caf hence not referring to it as MBC) around 3 pm. Thin selection of girls at this time of the day. Settled down thinking things will get better here on. Could see some potential even in the girls present. We eyed two girls seated near the entrance, looked good. A guy approached them but was shot down. One of the girl meanwhile walked away to a nearby table. I asked Blanqui if we should get them. Blanqui agreed and walked up to the seated girl. He came back after 2 minutes saying that she will join us along with her friend. Minutes later the girls were with us, and we got them drinks. After while of chatting up and interviewing we decided to go back. Blanqui had made his pick as well. The girl I had selected was named Gwen, 24 year old, 5' and be sized breasts. For some strange reason (Pinay logic more about this in the appropriate thread) she decided to arrive at the Hotel by herself, alone. So Blanqui, his girk & I took a taxi back to Century Park. Upon reaching I looked for Gwen but she was nowhere in sight. I thought she must have bailed out. I decided to go to Harrison Plaza and get supplies. To my delight, Gwen was waiting at the back entrance. I took in tow to Shopwise and got supplies. Gwen was a sweet girl. She lent a hand in carrying the bags. Back in the room, we got fresh and on bed. Gwen kissed well and was very responsive. A decent BJ and protected sex in missionary and doggy is all I could manage. We lazed around and had a couple of more drinks. Gwen asked me if I wanted her to stay for LT. I told her that I was going out and maybe I would see her again soon. Paid her 2500 pesos + 200 tip. She left with a smile.
Overall experience: 7. 5/10.
P Burgos Street, Makati
We headed for Makati around 9 pm. We hit bars as mentioned below:
Plan B: Decent selection of girls. I got one wearing a baseball cap but she was on her period, what a bummer. First rejection in Philippines.
Hotspot: Good selection of girls. I got one to my table but she was also on her period. Second rejection.
Kojax: Great selection of PYTs, Slim gazelles. Second only to Bottoms up. Likes two but didn't feel the vibe. Blanqui got himself a gal here.
Bottoms up: Best Selection of Girls. Only bummer was the BF. I didn't proceed.
Stardust: Worst selection and empty bar. We could barely finish our drink and wanted to get out ASAP.
Not being lucky in Makati I decided to head back to MBC. It was around 3 am by the time I reached there and so I was prepared to fish at the bottom of the barrel. Surprisingly decent selection. Got myself a beer and moved around. I saw a cute girl at the table to the right of the entrance with a big smile on her face. I walked over and hit up some small talk. Soon an LT negotiated at 3000 pesos we were off to the Hotel. Her name was Sherly, around 5'2', be sized breasts. She said she was 24, I didn't doubt or engage on that as she looked sexy enough to me. Possibly beer goggles. We kissed as soon as we entered the room, deep DFK. I knew I had made a good choice. We smoked together and had another drink. We were on bed in minutes after a shower. Great DFK and good BBBJ. Sherly was indeed a good choice. I really liked her company and the way she behaved with me. We had some good sex with WOT, missionary and I ended in doggy. It was almost 6 am by the time we cleaned, cuddled up and slept. I woke around 11 am to the sounds of Sherly coughing. It seemed the smoking and drinking had got her throat. She had started sneezing. I didn't want to catch any of her virus so I sent her packing off with the negotiated fees and a 200 peso tip.
Overall experience: 8/10.
IllusionHeart
01-10-16, 17:15
December 28 (Day 2: Sunday)
We got our meal, a sausage platter at Munchen. I really love this place. The ambience is cozy and the food is really amazing.
I had to exchange some currency. Now Ermita is full of money exchange shops, but one shop in particular Sheeha was better, in the sense they had very good armed security and solid infrastructure to manage customer flow. Also, the number of people at this shop were more than its neighbors. The USD was hovering around 47.15 pesos. I got a decent rate of 33.50 for the SGD.
We spend some time at LA Caf but it was quite dead. We headed back and rested for some time.
We went to EDSA around 9 pm. We hit the below mentioned bars:
Firehouse: 2 change of girls, around 15 in total. Decent collection but nothing fancied to me.
Casino: 12 + girls, average selection. We moved out.
Cotton Club: Best selection. Good ones were picked up by East Asian guys before we could make our selection. Maybe another day, another visit might turn lucky.
Bullets & Arrows: Average selection. Liked one but she seemed more interested in the Japanese guy chatting up with Mamasan. Lack of eye contact and I moved on.
There was a noticeable drop in the quality and quantity of girls present in EDSA. Not wanting to waste any further time we headed out to P Burgos Street and reached around 12 am.
We went to the below mentioned bars;.
Bottoms up: There were hardly 3 or 4 girls on stage. Few with customers. We moved out after a pint.
Tickles: Average selection. Maybe we had reached late to the bar.
Plan B: Average selection. I headed to the washroom first and before I got back Blanqui had got two girls on our table. Both looked gorgeous. I decided to go with the flow. Girl seated beside me was Mary Jane (MJ), 21 year old, be+ sized breast and a PYT. Bar fine was 2900 pesos and girl wanted 3000 psos till 7 am in the morning. This was the standard rate quoted by girls across bars I. E. 3000 pesos till 7 am. I am a late riser and like to keep the girl till afternoon or lunch time. So I negotiated another 1000 pesos extra and a good tip depending on the service quality till 3 or 4 pm. Lady drinks were charged over and above the barfine.
We reached hotel around 3 am, got few drinks. MJ said she was not feeling well and wanted to take a small nap and I could wake her up in 15 minutes. I was ok and told her to rest. I had another drink and could see that she went into a deep slumber. I didn't wake her up and went to sleep. Around 7 in the morning I opened my eyes and could see MJ still asleep. I touched her and could feel her body had warmed up and she seemed to be running a fewer. She got up and went to the loo. I asked her if everything was ok. She told me that she was not well and had a doctor's appointment later in the day. She was suffering from UTI. I didn't want to engage with her sexually after hearing this. I let her go to sleep. I sent a text to Blanqui right away about this disaster. Few hours later Blanqui responded to my text. He and his gal spoke to MJ and we let her go with 500 peso. Nothing we could do about it. A good night lost. Could have gone either way, could have happened to anyone.
Overall experience: 0/10.
IllusionHeart
01-10-16, 17:17
December 29 (Day 3: Monday)
Usual lunch at Munchen and killed some time at LA Caf. Maybe early afternoons is a time to be avoided I guess. I ran into Sherly and she looked good and healthy. She was playing pool with a customer and her friends. She talked to me for some time and apologized for her health the other day.
Being last night we wanted to go to P Burgos street bars again. We started early around 8 p and went to the below mentioned bars;.
Rogues: Being an institution and described so many times by regular members I had to visit Rogues once this visit. We went in and settled down with a beer each. Decent selection of ladies. Unfortunately we got seats towards the end of the bar near the pool table and girls were seated near the entrance besides the bar. We hung around for some time, few sweet girls but lack of eye contact or any discussion didn't help much. Girls seemed to be busy chatting amongst themselves instead. We moved out after a pint.
Hollywood: A peek inside was enough to move on.
Pappilon: A peek inside was enough to move on.
Bourbon Street: 4 girls on stage, below average. We were surprised that such a big bar with a great location advantage was not being managed well. They could easily have fielded over 30 girls given the infrastructure available. Sad. We moved on.
Kojax: Best collection of girls. PYTs. I found a slim gazelle and got her to my table. Her name was Sarah, A sized and 21 year old. She danced very well and it had caught my attention. I decided to BF her. 2600 pesos + 3000 till 7 am. I told her that I wanted her to stay till late and will compensate her accordingly to which she agreed. Lady drinks were charged over and above the barfine.
Plan B: With lady in tow we moved to Plan be. Though the collection was average Blanqui had identified a girl from the previous night he wanted to BF. He got her and we were back at the Hotel.
Being our last night in Manila, Blanqui invited me and my girl over to his room for a small party with drinks and dinner. After a couple of hours of good fun, cards and great music we all got into the mood for the real act ahead. Sarah & I said goodnight to Blanqui and his girl and we retired to our room. Sarah was good in bed. She knew her way around a man's body. Very good at BBBJ and great kisser as well. She liked being on top and enjoyed the WOT and reverse cowgirl position. I was keen to get her in doggy which I finally did and then could not hold for long. She was really agile and flexible. Guess it always goes with the body type of the girl.
We slept for a few hours and when my eyes opened I found her leg tucked in between my thighs. Good enough to bring on morning wood. I did some light kissing as she seemed to be in sleep but was responding. I turned her on her side and decided to spoon her. This way her sleep would not be disturbed and I would have my fun. But within a few minutes of dry humping she was wide awake and fully turned on. She responded with wet kisses and got into the act. I finished in missionary with our tongues intertwined. Good session to start a day and a trip to Angeles City. We cleaned up as I had to check out and leave for AC. I paid her 4000 + 500 tip.
Overall experience: 8. 5/10.
The next part of my trip can be found in the Angeles thread.
Member #4387
01-10-16, 17:28
Way to go. A pretty neutral report from the fields. No need to be objective as your subjective meanings stands good. At least its the same impression I have around your writings. Maybe x Exklusive as I have had some blasts there (but I am according to you 20+ years younger than u). Loads of koreans but that also worked to my benefit sometimes as I manage to hook korean girls there. But again I am clubber worldwide so I interact quite good with various folks.
Thank you for a nice report, down on earth report Good quality.
I did expecially like the part where u spoon the girl, fucking her "not to disturb her sleep"(made me chuckle quite a bit):-)
AttorneyPunani
01-10-16, 18:03
Spent two weeks in Malate from New Year to mid month. Nice apartments with great sea view provided by employer. By way of background I was a single 60-year-old guy who knows Philippines moderately well.
Bars: LA Caf you can read lots of opinions but I found it pretty grim. Visited many times at different times of day, close to New Year when many girls are in the province but also later. I encountered mostly hard looking women who were unappealing relative to other options but never took out. Amazonia was worse just awful looking crew and did not bother with other bars.
FL scene at Robinson's was OK. Main gathering spot is Starbucks both inside and outside the actual caf. But multiple others encountered throughout in Food Court and Supermarket. Security leaves them alone. Took one 1500 for ST who was an OK performer.
Managed online girls coming over for the most part. Filipino Cupid had plenty of takers and surprisingly many hits on Tinder. However, a lot of these turned out out to be lady boys!. I just go and swipe quickly so obviously I "liked" them at some point but I think its easier to unmatch them rather than wading through the profiles before deciding to swipe left or right. So many of the others say they don't want hook-ups isn't that what Tinder is about? Some girls who just came out and stated their price. Most were dreaming in my opinion wanting $US100-$200 for all night for no guarantee on service. But prob Ok if you are horny and happy to risk the cash. But a lot of hits and not many actually turning up to meet.
I think that's about all? Robinsons has most of what you need, Uber works well but if I had not been set up there for work by my boss, I would not have stayed in Malate. The times I ventured over to Makati for nightlife were way better in both the quality and attitudes of girls.Worked in Malate a while back, too. Got lucky with LA Cafe. Went there twice, and both times, got a moderately good looking girl, who provided moderately good service, for a moderately acceptable price. (2 k ST, 2 shots).
Filipino Cupid is new to me. Curious.
I knew there were FLs in Robinsons, but I find it hard to tell, and I was too scared to mistake a non-pro for an FL. Afraid they'd cause a commotion. Curious how you tell, and how the approach goes?
What has Uber got to do with this discussion? Or are you just saying that Uber is a good mode of transpiration?
Thanks!
Spent two weeks in Malate from New Year to mid month...............Bars: LA Caf you can read lots of opinions but I found it pretty grim. Visited many times at different times of day, close to New Year when many girls are in the province but also later. I encountered mostly hard looking women who were unappealing relative to other options but never took out. Amazonia was worse just awful looking crew and did not bother with other bars. ...............Guys,
For your reference, I too concur with the above assessment. I like realistic wording, viz: "pretty grim" and "hard looking women". And in respect of Amazonia "awful looking crew" , is how I would describe them too. Waste of time, unless you get your rocks off with bottom feeders / desperado's. Personal opinion only, of course.
Does the airport give a bad exchange rate like most airports. How much should I change at the airport? Enough for the cab? How late does the exchange place open at EDSA.
And do they give a good rate?
Member #4387
01-11-16, 04:05
Guys,
For your reference, I too concur with the above assessment. I like realistic wording, viz: "pretty grim" and "hard looking women". And in respect of Amazonia "awful looking crew" , is how I would describe them too. Waste of time, unless you get your rocks off with bottom feeders / desperado's. Personal opinion only, of course.Before we write off LA Cafe, and I do agree that's no place I go these days, I would recommend mongerers to venture into the bar. Why? Bcs me beeing a phil rookie, I went to this place (I think it was called MBC back then but who cares) like 3 years ago. Thats how long I have been enjoying the company of more or less beautiful phil ladies. I found the ISG site by mistake (or by fortune) through someone in a datingsite I was scoping around in (DIA). As a girl was complaining her pics was in ISG. It made me curious so I created my Skogis profile (now from reasons its became the Donald Sucks one). Even so, meet with MBC / LA Cafe was a nice one. Met the occational diamond in the rough when I almost was leaving bcs the girls inside was hardcore looking ones (not my cup of tea). From background icame from living in both Colombia and Venezuela and I was more or less used to top notch model girls back then. Pale skinned and blasting beauties. Anal my favorite as in the more beautiful a girl was the more I enjoyed fuck their barnentrance.
Was dissapointed with the Cafe to start with as only prostitutes (I did some read ups but took it with a grain of salt so to speak) girls were present. Then she stood there in all her beautie. A model like girl and I kindly ask her join my seeting arrangements. She accepted and from there on until now I was pretty much hooked and fell instantly in love with phil girls (I did at this time also have some experience from the BKK sceene girlie wice).
She was a great performer and back then no money was mentioned. I deluded myself into she must been different as I was expecting some money requests as I read upfront MBC was that kind of place with this kind of girls. She left without me donating anything (after pretty hard both anal and normal sex). Times goes by and the next day I hit the Prive (famous nightclub for Hi so people). I am not afraid these places as I role around the world (back then and still doing) clubbing. Have been to almost every great club a city and a country can provide only to find out girls are girls everywhere (Hi so or not so Hi so). At Prive I met the mother of my Makati based baby. A pale, talledbuild, pinay with soft skin and I was nursing my VIP table alone and she came by to ask if I was ok? We fucked, she became preggy and I was in total panic. My panic room would be space as I had (and still do) norwegian GF. From reasons unknown to man she's half pinay and half norwegian but borned and raised my country. Right after this "I am pregnant" msg I learned to know my GF back home also preggy. When a third girl (model girl from Thailand got pregnant I shipped her to HKG to take abortion). 2 is ok but 3 is a crowd (babies).
So step by step I think I became the wice mongerer. But back to the first MBC girl which I from beeing rookie didn't pay. She kept hanging on to me. Reading more and more from here and other sources I felt I should give her something. When next trip came by and she told me through e mails her lap top broke down we met at Robinsons (this was before I did the Ascott Makati residential stays). I bought her new lap top and it felt good to provide her something after fucking her for free first time. After this I never looked backed and I donate in east and west as long as girls keep mouth shut regarding moneys.
I have certain airline attached objects in phils as well as in Thailand. They are all married or in relationships with both native or foreign people. These girls would ofcourse be humiliated if I cashed moneys to them. For the 4 girls I simply this pre x mas bought them each a brand new Iphone 6's+ whatever. That was around 200 to 240 k well spend pisos.
We learn by doing and becoming the full time mongerer, who I am today, takes time. I guess I am lucky bcs I still sometimes go into stealth mode, hide my mongering attitudes, and behave and pick up normal girls everywhere. I have a rule though, girls from countries less fortuned than my country (Norway) I tend to donate a tad. In US if I fuck a UNI student from Berkly I don't donate. If I fuck a girl, whose father is a CEO in branding big intl corporation I don't donate. Girls from 3 world (like phils) I am almost all the time donating. Well I didn't donate the mother (from Prive) as she spoke her family owned many businesses in Quezon area (4 family marts) and she told me they used to go holiday, the whole family (she is a lonely child like me), to US each year. She also attended UNI in US paid by parents so donations not called for. I do support my Makati based baby but I know these moneys go to the baby amd not for the mother. I trust her big time as she has a well paid job, biz lawyer in big korean corporation in Makati, earning her 100 to 150 ka month salary wice.
We all start from somewhere but we can end up nice with experience, hehe.
WestCoast1
01-11-16, 06:18
Does the airport give a bad exchange rate like most airports. How much should I change at the airport? Enough for the cab? How late does the exchange place open at EDSA.
And do they give a good rate?NAIA? I passed thru a few weeks ago and got p47 to $1 USD. I think its back down into the 46-range now.
Chocha Monger
01-11-16, 08:53
Guys,
For your reference, I too concur with the above assessment. I like realistic wording, viz: "pretty grim" and "hard looking women". And in respect of Amazonia "awful looking crew" , is how I would describe them too. Waste of time, unless you get your rocks off with bottom feeders / desperado's. Personal opinion only, of course.LA Café and Amazonia are a purgatory where old battle hardened hookers go to die. In LA Café, anything that the average monger might be able to get it up for hangs out in the Korean only section where patrons are assured of an early death from plumes of cheap toxic secondhand tobacco smoke. Most of the non-Asian clientèle are down and out pensioners looking to score some deeply discounted bargain bin street meat.
It is strongly recommended to avoid these locations if you have more than 1,000 pesos in your pocket, unless you enjoy preying on the roughest looking alley cats Manila has to offer.
Hello fellow mongers,
I am returning to Manila for my second visit and will be spending time in Manila and AC. For the life of me I can't remember the Club where I had some success with the talent there. It was like named Bay and had a stage and was kind of a review show with girls you could bar fine and take back. They had one rate for the free lancers and various rates for the stage talent. Does this sound familiar to anyone. Down the same street was another like club named Universal or Unicolor that sucked big time. They tried to it us with a big entrance fee for just being there a couple minutes.
Any suggestions for places to visit in Manila or AC that have the better eye candy would be appreciated.
Cheers!
I will be coming back for my second visit to the Philippines and will be going to Manila and AC.
For the life of me, I can't remember the name of the Club I went to in Manila that I had some success. It was Burgos Street as I believe we drove past that coming from the Shangri-La. The club was large with a big stage and had a review type show. There were free lancers available at one price and dancers at another. It was named Bay or something like that and down the block from it was Universal or Unicolor that was plain terrible.
Any suggestions from fellow members would be much appreciated as to which clubs in Manila and AC have the best looking eye-candy available.
Cheers!
Blanquiceleste
01-11-16, 17:04
As you all know by now, IllusionHeart & I had connected in person and planned this trip together. After meeting for the first time, we both hit it off pretty well. Also, since the FR by Illusion is already up and is extremely well written, I will only provide some details to fill in some gaps and recount my own experiences. But first a foreword.
1. Everything said on this forum about quality & quantity of girls in AC and their attitudes is fairly true.
2. Manila (Makati) is very quickly going the Singapore way and will soon outprice itself.
3. Cigarettes, food and drink is definitely far more cheaper in the cities than at DFS.
4. Being polite and pleasant does have its advantages as you will see in the reports that follow.
5. There is indeed no logic to anything that happens in the Philippines, as has been reported countless times by so many members.
So, as they say. Guns up, let's do this!
December 27 (Day 1: Saturday).
Illusion and I flew into NAIA, Manila on a red eye from Singapore and landed by 4:30 am. No major delays. Only sore point is that we paid nearly SGD750 on round fares to Manila from Singapore as it was season time. The fares hover around SGD240 throughout the year otherwise.
The check-in at Century Park was pure luck. I managed a decent smile at 5:30 am after a flight and the front desk lad obliged with early check-ins. Again, being polite and pleasant helps. I slipped him a 100 P for his troubles. Got some much needed sleep and got out by noon for some action. Picked up the SMART SIM card this time after a completely forgettable experience with GLOBE last time. Sadly, SMART was no better than GLOBE. Welcome to the Philippines.
Hutsori's recommendation about Munchen was top notch. Authentic stuff at this little blink-and-miss restaurant. Only 14 covers, serves Paulaner and Ottinger as imported German beers and a delightful selection of sausages. After a good meal we headed to MBC.
At MBC I got hold of the girl Illusion was eyeing and she (Gwen) came along with her friend Jennifer who immediately held my hand and my attention. Jennifer was 19 yo (verified by checking her ID card), a single mother, cute as bits and equally horny. She also had a sister in the bar, named Wendy who came over for a drink. I was soon offered a threesome for the princely sum of 4000 P. I declined and held on to Jennifer at 2500 P.
Back in the room, Jennifer delivered on all the promises made in the bar. An excellent opening session always sets the tone for the rest of the trip. Jennifer wanted to stay longer but I had other plans. I had Burgos on my mind. So, after another round with Jennifer that lasted way longer than I thought it would, I sent her on her way with 2500 PP + 200 P tip for her good work. She left with a big smile. I thought I saw a tiny limp as she walked away. Well. Occupational hazards, I guess.
Overall experience: 7. 5/10.
We headed for Makati around 9 pm. A taxi driver Bert took us there by meter that woked out to 170 P. Bert was chatty and offered to take us to a Casa. Now we had read about these Casa in Manila and I was curious. Illusion helped me stay on course and we reached Burgos in no time. Traffic was pretty thin. Illusion has already accounted for the bars visited, so I will cut to the chase.
I picked my girl Miranda from Kojax. No more than 5 feet, great natural boobs, lovely ass, washboard flat tummy and a killer smile. I am a sucker for dimples. Dimples on the cheeks and dimples in the small of the back. Following the interview, a deal was struck at 2600 P barfine + 3000 P for the girl till 7 am. I told her I wanted company till lunch time and she readily agreed.
Since Illusion had not found a girl yet, I offered to stick around but he insisted I go back to the hotel. So I went back and chewed and screwed this little spinner late into the night. Man, can she suck cock or can she suck cock. After an amazing sloppy wet BBBJ and paint job, she wanted to ride my bareback. I firmly insisted on using a condom. Once the Sagami went on and I penetrated, she squealed in delight. This Japanese gem never disappoints. I pumped her in several positions on and off the bed. Finished Round 1 by 3 am. But Miranda was in no mood to sleep. She fixed me a drink and get herself a beer and started warming me up for Round 2. This one started in the shower and ended on the couch. Fully spent, I went to bed by 5:00 am. I was woken at noon by Miranda kissing my pecker. I went with the flow and let her finish me up with a BBBJ. One of the best I have received till date, no question.
Overall experience: 8. 5/10.
December 28 (Day 2: Sunday).
After I said goodbye to Miranda with her 3000 P + 1000 P tip, Illusion & I headed over to Munchen again. Currency exchange followed and finally we landed up at MBC again by 3:00 pm. Lackluster scene, we left quickly to get some shut eye.
Went to EDSA by 9 pm. Somehow, this complex did not live up to my expectations. The talent in all the bars were pretty thin. Bullets & Arrows have the worst seats I have ever rested my ass on inside a bar. Possibly the girls were not yet back from their Christmas holiday in the 'frovince'. We decided to cut losses and head over to Burgos again. I had seen a cute chick at Plan be the previous night and I wanted to check her out.
At Plan be, the girl I had seen the previous night was there along with her friend, sitting at the edge of the stage. As Illusion went to the washroom, I called her over and both came. My girl's name was Ariza and the other girl's name was MJ. I am really sorry for what happened with Illusion and MJ, but I had a great time with Ariza. Easily a keeper. Flawless skin, great lithe athletic body with perky anti-gravity boobs. She was 19 yo. Expensive place though. 2900 P barfine + 3000 P for the girl till 7 am. Same story repeated. Ariza agreed to stay late. I had great sex with Ariza and she also gave excellent GFE. I managed to bang her twice in several positions. Her appetite for sex was not as much as Miranda but still, good by regular standards. This one I will keep in touch with.
Overall experience: 8. 5/10.
December 29 (Day 3: Monday).
I connected with Illusion by 11:00 am upon seeing his texts. Went over and settled matters for him. I was deeply pained by what happened with him. We headed for lunch to Munchen again and killed some time at LA Caf. Back in room for some much needed sleep.
Being last night I wanted to go to Burgos street bars again. I had seen another girl at Plan be that I wanted to barfine. We started early around 8:00 pm and hit the street. This time Illusion picked his girl first from Kojax and then we headed over to Plan be. I found the girl I was eyeing on the second change in line up. Her name is Kara. Again, she met all my criteria for a barfine, so off we went.
Being the last night in Manila, I invited Illusion for a few drinks in my room. What followed was a delightful evening, which got everyone into the groove. After a couple of hours we said good night to each other and went back to our business. Kara and I had slow, steamy, passionate sex. Wet deep kissing, playing with each other's bodies we went long into the night. Finally went to sleep by 4:00 am. Woke up at 9:00 am. Cuddled Kara from behind and soon I was spooning her. Another long session followed and finally we finished up by 10:00 am. Shit, shave, shower. Packed for the next leg of our holiday. I said goodbye to Kara and she started weeping uncontrollably. I tried to comfort her in my arms, but this is not my area of competence. After a while, I thrust 3000 P + 1000 P into her purse and sent her on her way.
Overall experience: 8. 5/10.
By noon of 30 Dec we were on our way to Angeles. Thanks for reading, the next part will be found on the Angeles thread.
I will be coming back for my second visit to the Philippines and will be going to Manila and AC.
For the life of me, I can't remember the name of the Club I went to in Manila that I had some success. It was Burgos Street as I believe we drove past that coming from the Shangri-La. The club was large with a big stage and had a review type show. There were free lancers available at one price and dancers at another. It was named Bay or something like that and down the block from it was Universal or Unicolor that was plain terrible.
Any suggestions from fellow members would be much appreciated as to which clubs in Manila and AC have the best looking eye-candy available.
Cheers!Seems your talking about LA Café/ Manila Bay Café. The board has been down on this place. I think anyone who has never been should take a peak. Of course they will.
Be out of cab fare if it is unacceptable.
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Seems your talking about LA Caf/ Manila Bay Caf. The board has been down on this place. I think anyone who has never been should take a peak. Of course they will.
Be out of cab fare if it is unacceptable.It wasn't the Bay Caf as the place was on main street towards the middle. There was another large establishment too that was similar in set-up. They second club had a pseudo fishbowl too.
WestCoast1
01-12-16, 05:00
So I went back and chewed and screwed this little spinner late into the night. Man, can she suck cock or can she suck cock. After an amazing sloppy wet BBBJ and paint job, she wanted to ride my bareback. I firmly insisted on using a condom. Once the Sagami went on and I penetrated, she squealed in delight. This Japanese gem never disappoints. I pumped her in several positions on and off the bed. Finished Round 1 by 3 am. But Miranda was in no mood to sleep. She fixed me a drink and get herself a beer and started warming me up for Round 2. This one started in the shower and ended on the couch. Fully spent, I went to bed by 5:00 am. I was woken at noon by Miranda kissing my pecker. I went with the flow and let her finish me up with a BBBJ. One of the best I have received till date, no question.
Overall experience: 8. 5/10.Shit. Givin' me a stiffie! Shhhh, secret. All the Basement Barney's will be on the next plane west!
So my recent trip to Manila is over, and it is time for some reflection. Having weekend days I had hopes to come to some sort of arrangement to spend plenty of time with a girl, potentially go out clubbing, have dinners, etc.
The result is not what I hoped but more on that later. Now the good, the bad and the ugly.
Starting with the good. I got laid every single night and every single bang was good.
After touching the ground, I quickly checked into my room and took off to EDSA. Familiar hunting ground with familiar girls. My favorite girl at Pit Stop was present and found herself quickly in my room.
Service was excellent 100% GFE, we were so into it that she even forgot to put a condom on. While she was on top of me she was moving her hips round and round and slid her pussy over my dick. Half way in I made a remark ("no condom today? Which made her blush big time, her reaction was priceless. Still smiling when I think about it.
The following working day started early in the morning and it turned out to be a busy day with back-to-back meetings followed by business dinner. Essentially no time for me to arrange anything.
So I decided to continue where I had left things of the day before and grabbed my girl from EDSA again. While I was there I chatted a lot with the Mamasan to understand a bit more about their business and also evaluate the options to take a girl out for multiple days, planning ahead for the weekend.
Essentially this isn't a problem at all. If you decide right there to take a girl for multiple days, you pay x-times the bar fine and you are all set. If you take a girl and decide outside to keep her for several days, the girl can call them and you just leave the x-days bar fine with the girl, she will take it back to the bar.
+++EDSA Special+++.
A bit of an EDSA Entertainment Complex excursion now, really juts bits and pieces of information I hope you find interesting.
After talking quite a bit with girls and mamasans, this is the picture I got:
The girls are essentially recruited by the mamasans. Many come from their neighborhoods. Mamasans approach girls they know deem suitable and check whether they are interested entering the business. This is the reason why many of the girls and mamasans know each other, not only thru the bar.
My girl shared with me that several of her former elementary school mates were on stage as I was there. She was literally approached by the mamasan on the street in their neighborhood.
Apparently, Mamasans do NOT get a share of the bar fine, nor do they get a salary. They do however get their share of revenue from the drinks and they keep their 100% of their tips. This model is the reason why they are asking for tips all the time.
Business seems to be quite low, all the bars I visited there are quite empty and very unhappy about the state of business. Cotton Club was the only exception. Even if the usual Koreans or Japanese do come in, more often than not they just consume 1 drink, watch the girls and disappear to hit the neighbor bar. Most don't bar fine a girl.
Every Friday / Saturday the girls get checked for STDs. However they only do a vaginal smear, which means this is by no means a thorough screening. I am pretty sure that HIV for example cannot be identified with it. One of the girl mentioned to me that she does an HIV blood test every 6 months. A lot can happen in 6 months.
Some of the bars (e. G. Pit Stop) have the girls come in in the afternoon already. They get make-up and hair done in preparation for their stage appearance. This is mandatory for the girls. Seems Cotton Club doesn't apply this as strictly. A girl I took out from there mentioned she arrives around 7-8 pm and does only little Make-Up.
+++EDSA Special End+++.
Now back to my second night. Performance of my girl wasn't bad, but I somehow felt things are going a bit in the wrong direction. While I enjoyed knowing each other better with the weekend in mind, it seemed she tried to push my buttons to be done with the session. It is a bit hard to explain, since she didn't really do anything wrong. It was just that the passionate French kissing was a little shorter than before and she started to BBBJ me sooner than before.
The BJ itself also seemed a bit shorter and she jumped on top of me. Worst of all she developed a habit of showering and getting dressed right after the action ("I know you are tired and have to work tomorrow".
So after the second night, I decided that it wouldn't be her to spend the weekend with.
Instead I turned my attention to the various online options. I shortlisted some babes on Craigslist (casual encounters section) and got active on several interesting "Nearby's" on WeChat. Communication was easly since all of the girls were on WeChat or Viber, which allowed me to text and even speak to them; despite of my international number they could call me on Viber, essentially free of charge for them.
So I contacted 4 different girls on CL and got replies with pictures and details from 3 of them. 1 of them asked for way too much $ and another one was very slow with replies. I also had started a rather intensive back-and-forth chat on WeChat with another girl. She seemed to be into foreigners and we had a rather interesting and fun conversation going on. I also got the feeling that she wasn't at all after money. Ultimately she was not available that night, so in the end, an arrangement with a petite 23 year old from CL materialized. I met her at the food court right across the street of the hotel for dinner to get to know each other a bit.
Why meeting outside? Because the one scenario that bothers me with online bookings is when the girl comes straight to your hotel and you have her in the room immediately. I personally always need some time to warm up and get the "head cinema" going before starting any action. In my experience, it puts the girls at ease as well and once the first laughs come out, chances for success have drastically increased.
Turns out the little one was indeed VERY little, but she was transparent about it upfront and asked me if "petite" was fine with me.
What actually bothered me more than her height, was her stature, which was a bit on the chubby side. Her pictures didn't show that and she stated she had gained some weight over the holiday season. On the upside, she turned out to be a real trooper. She is the type of freelance girl that looks after her own sexual desires as well. Total GFE with LOTS of French kissing, super deep BBBJ, great riding, wrapping her legs around you in missionary, etc.
The pre-negotiated rate was 3000, and I sent her home after giving her the well-deserved compensation.
On Saturday morning, I continued my conversation with the WeChat girl and engaged into another chat with a pretty little cutie. Both conversations were patchy and I wasn't sure whether I can get a firm commitment from either one. I already worked a plan see in my mind, just in case. All of a sudden, both girls offered to meet within the same minute. Can you believe it? I decided to park the little cutie ("have to join a business dinner unexpectedly, may contact you later") and made an arrangement with the "interesting girl" who agreed to meet later that night at a coffee shop. The long story short is that one hour after meeting and talking in the coffee shop we weren't really warming up and parted with a friendly "good bye".
While I was walking away from the coffee shop, I texted "little cutie" who showed immediate interest to meet:
SHE: "great, I want to meet you", "are you sure you want to meet me?
ME: "yes absolutely".
SHE: "okay I will come to your hotel soon".
While my imagination and happy anticipation started kicking in, her messages became a bit weird.
SHE: "maybe we cannot communicate longer because my phone not charged", "need to call my aunt to ask for permission to go out tonight".
ME: thinking WTF with the aunt and texting "if your battery is empty can you charge somewhere close by".
SHE: "you need to send me charge".
ME: "I have no idea what you are saying, how can I send you a charger?
SHE:" 7/11 downstairs".
That's when it occurred to me what she was really after. So this is a scam where they make you spend money to charge their pre-paid SIM card. Obviously the next thing that would have happened is the aunt not allowing her to go out that night.
ME:" Now I understand what you are after".
SHE: "Huhu, sorry".
Within 10 seconds I had blocked her on Viber.
While all of that happened, the chubby petite from the previous night started to text me "how are you", "what are you doing". Despite the good service I didn't want to book her again so I told her I am busy.
In the end I ended up at EDSA, but I decided not to go after "my girl" in Pit Stop but took out a nice spinner from Cotton Club. Her moves stood out in the crowd and she had a very firm and slim body. Great butt as well, so I decided she would be the one.
Arriving at the hotel, she started to engage in intensive kissing and I started to feel really good about the session to come. First I took a shower and when I was done she entered the shower. After several minutes I was wondering why she spends so much time in the shower. When I peeked into the bath room, I saw here crouched down in the shower. Strange. I also saw she had taken some cotton balls and a little bottle with fluid into the shower. When I asked her what she was doing there she replied "cleaning". First time for me to see so much cleaning.
When she finally got out of the shower another 10 minutes later, she started a really remarkable session. BBBJ very skillful and deep, riding me in various positions. Her vagina was quite tight and she used her muscle to make it even tighter.
I turned her over to missionary and pounded her hard for a few minutes, then went back into the riding position where I let her finish me. The moment of truth came when she got up from me: blood dripping out of her pussy onto my nice white linen. Now I knew what kept her so long in the shower and what she was covering up. The nice feeling of relaxation was gone in an instant.
So the nice weekend with a girl at my side didn't happen, I will surely try to be more proactive next time. But what several mentioned before on this forum turned out to be true for me. Dating sites and social media while great additional means for us can turn out to require lots of effort with no guaranteed results.
I knew there were FLs in Robinsons, but I find it hard to tell, and I was too scared to mistake a non-pro for an FL. Afraid they'd cause a commotion. Curious how you tell, and how the approach goes?
Thanks! The FL scene at Robinsons is not hard to identify. First though there are real freelancers who work both inside and outside the mall. They will catch your eye or come up to you but usually just taking a table at Starbucks and watching the traffic will alert you to who is who. But if you are polite you can approach any girl who is hanging about and just say Hello, and ask her name. If she is a FL she will let you know. If she is an ordinary girl, then she prob will just walk away. She is not going to make a commotion if are polite.
The second side to the FL scene at Robinsons' is that there are Mamasans (for want of a better description) who will set you up with a girl. There are two that I know who work in the evening (start about 5 pm) and hang around on the edge of the smoking area outside the main entrance (to the right of Starbucks). You can negotiate with them if you don't like approaching girls. I did not do that but expect there would be an extra fee for the service. As always be aware of [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls if you are taking FLs off the street.
In my longer report I should have added a few words on Ermita bars. The western oriented bars in Ermita are a mixed bunch. GPoint & LA Cafe obviously make money but many of the others can't. In some cases this is because the local Barangay Captain will not let them have girls in the bar whereas others located not far away do have some girls (different Barangay or different "business model") . Overall it's not rich pickings in the few Ermita bars with girls like Husseys. Of course you may get lucky on a particular night but these bars are a low percentage play in my opinion.
AttorneyPunani
01-13-16, 15:41
So my recent trip to Manila is over, and it is time for some reflection. Having weekend days I had hopes to come to some sort of arrangement to spend plenty of time with a girl, potentially go out clubbing, have dinners, etc.
The result is not what I hoped but more on that later. Now the good, the bad and the ugly.
Starting with the good. I got laid every single night and every single bang was good.
After touching the ground, I quickly checked into my room and took off to EDSA. Familiar hunting ground with familiar girls. My favorite girl at Pit Stop was present and found herself quickly in my room.
Service was excellent 100% GFE, we were so into it that she even forgot to put a condom on. While she was on top of me she was moving her hips round and round and slid her pussy over my dick. Half way in I made a remark ("no condom today? Which made her blush big time, her reaction was priceless. Still smiling when I think about it.
The following working day started early in the morning and it turned out to be a busy day with back-to-back meetings followed by business dinner. Essentially no time for me to arrange anything.
So I decided to continue where I had left things of the day before and grabbed my girl from EDSA again. While I was there I chatted a lot with the Mamasan to understand a bit more about their business and also evaluate the options to take a girl out for multiple days, planning ahead for the weekend.
Essentially this isn't a problem at all. If you decide right there to take a girl for multiple days, you pay x-times the bar fine and you are all set. If you take a girl and decide outside to keep her for several days, the girl can call them and you just leave the x-days bar fine with the girl, she will take it back to the bar.
+++EDSA Special+++.
A bit of an EDSA Entertainment Complex excursion now, really juts bits and pieces of information I hope you find interesting.
After talking quite a bit with girls and mamasans, this is the picture I got:
The girls are essentially recruited by the mamasans. Many come from their neighborhoods. Mamasans approach girls they know deem suitable and check whether they are interested entering the business. This is the reason why many of the girls and mamasans know each other, not only thru the bar.
My girl shared with me that several of her former elementary school mates were on stage as I was there. She was literally approached by the mamasan on the street in their neighborhood.
Apparently, Mamasans do NOT get a share of the bar fine, nor do they get a salary. They do however get their share of revenue from the drinks and they keep their 100% of their tips. This model is the reason why they are asking for tips all the time.
Business seems to be quite low, all the bars I visited there are quite empty and very unhappy about the state of business. Cotton Club was the only exception. Even if the usual Koreans or Japanese do come in, more often than not they just consume 1 drink, watch the girls and disappear to hit the neighbor bar. Most don't bar fine a girl.
Every Friday / Saturday the girls get checked for STDs. However they only do a vaginal smear, which means this is by no means a thorough screening. I am pretty sure that HIV for example cannot be identified with it. One of the girl mentioned to me that she does an HIV blood test every 6 months. A lot can happen in 6 months.
Some of the bars (e. G. Pit Stop) have the girls come in in the afternoon already. They get make-up and hair done in preparation for their stage appearance. This is mandatory for the girls. Seems Cotton Club doesn't apply this as strictly. A girl I took out from there mentioned she arrives around 7-8 pm and does only little Make-Up.
+++EDSA Special End+++.
Now back to my second night. Performance of my girl wasn't bad, but I somehow felt things are going a bit in the wrong direction. While I enjoyed knowing each other better with the weekend in mind, it seemed she tried to push my buttons to be done with the session. It is a bit hard to explain, since she didn't really do anything wrong. It was just that the passionate French kissing was a little shorter than before and she started to BBBJ me sooner than before.
The BJ itself also seemed a bit shorter and she jumped on top of me. Worst of all she developed a habit of showering and getting dressed right after the action ("I know you are tired and have to work tomorrow".
So after the second night, I decided that it wouldn't be her to spend the weekend with.
Instead I turned my attention to the various online options. I shortlisted some babes on Craigslist (casual encounters section) and got active on several interesting "Nearby's" on WeChat. Communication was easly since all of the girls were on WeChat or Viber, which allowed me to text and even speak to them; despite of my international number they could call me on Viber, essentially free of charge for them.
So I contacted 4 different girls on CL and got replies with pictures and details from 3 of them. 1 of them asked for way too much $ and another one was very slow with replies. I also had started a rather intensive back-and-forth chat on WeChat with another girl. She seemed to be into foreigners and we had a rather interesting and fun conversation going on. I also got the feeling that she wasn't at all after money. Ultimately she was not available that night, so in the end, an arrangement with a petite 23 year old from CL materialized. I met her at the food court right across the street of the hotel for dinner to get to know each other a bit.
Why meeting outside? Because the one scenario that bothers me with online bookings is when the girl comes straight to your hotel and you have her in the room immediately. I personally always need some time to warm up and get the "head cinema" going before starting any action. In my experience, it puts the girls at ease as well and once the first laughs come out, chances for success have drastically increased.
Turns out the little one was indeed VERY little, but she was transparent about it upfront and asked me if "petite" was fine with me.
What actually bothered me more than her height, was her stature, which was a bit on the chubby side. Her pictures didn't show that and she stated she had gained some weight over the holiday season. On the upside, she turned out to be a real trooper. She is the type of freelance girl that looks after her own sexual desires as well. Total GFE with LOTS of French kissing, super deep BBBJ, great riding, wrapping her legs around you in missionary, etc.
The pre-negotiated rate was 3000, and I sent her home after giving her the well-deserved compensation.
On Saturday morning, I continued my conversation with the WeChat girl and engaged into another chat with a pretty little cutie. Both conversations were patchy and I wasn't sure whether I can get a firm commitment from either one. I already worked a plan see in my mind, just in case. All of a sudden, both girls offered to meet within the same minute. Can you believe it? I decided to park the little cutie ("have to join a business dinner unexpectedly, may contact you later") and made an arrangement with the "interesting girl" who agreed to meet later that night at a coffee shop. The long story short is that one hour after meeting and talking in the coffee shop we weren't really warming up and parted with a friendly "good bye".
While I was walking away from the coffee shop, I texted "little cutie" who showed immediate interest to meet:
SHE: "great, I want to meet you", "are you sure you want to meet me?
ME: "yes absolutely".
SHE: "okay I will come to your hotel soon".
While my imagination and happy anticipation started kicking in, her messages became a bit weird.
SHE: "maybe we cannot communicate longer because my phone not charged", "need to call my aunt to ask for permission to go out tonight".
ME: thinking WTF with the aunt and texting "if your battery is empty can you charge somewhere close by".
SHE: "you need to send me charge".
ME: "I have no idea what you are saying, how can I send you a charger?
SHE:" 7/11 downstairs".
That's when it occurred to me what she was really after. So this is a scam where they make you spend money to charge their pre-paid SIM card. Obviously the next thing that would have happened is the aunt not allowing her to go out that night.
ME:" Now I understand what you are after".
SHE: "Huhu, sorry".
Within 10 seconds I had blocked her on Viber.
While all of that happened, the chubby petite from the previous night started to text me "how are you", "what are you doing". Despite the good service I didn't want to book her again so I told her I am busy.
In the end I ended up at EDSA, but I decided not to go after "my girl" in Pit Stop but took out a nice spinner from Cotton Club. Her moves stood out in the crowd and she had a very firm and slim body. Great butt as well, so I decided she would be the one.
Arriving at the hotel, she started to engage in intensive kissing and I started to feel really good about the session to come. First I took a shower and when I was done she entered the shower. After several minutes I was wondering why she spends so much time in the shower. When I peeked into the bath room, I saw here crouched down in the shower. Strange. I also saw she had taken some cotton balls and a little bottle with fluid into the shower. When I asked her what she was doing there she replied "cleaning". First time for me to see so much cleaning.
When she finally got out of the shower another 10 minutes later, she started a really remarkable session. BBBJ very skillful and deep, riding me in various positions. Her vagina was quite tight and she used her muscle to make it even tighter.
I turned her over to missionary and pounded her hard for a few minutes, then went back into the riding position where I let her finish me. The moment of truth came when she got up from me: blood dripping out of her pussy onto my nice white linen. Now I knew what kept her so long in the shower and what she was covering up. The nice feeling of relaxation was gone in an instant.
So the nice weekend with a girl at my side didn't happen, I will surely try to be more proactive next time. But what several mentioned before on this forum turned out to be true for me. Dating sites and social media while great additional means for us can turn out to require lots of effort with no guaranteed results.Sorry to hear about your experiences. There are fora such as this one in the PH. I can't mention any of them, so you're going to have to do a bit of research. They used to be denominated by color. Red, blue, white, and pink boards, if memory serves. Some acronyms are EOD, PPO, ACR, AWR. It's been a while since I last checked in, probably more than a year, so I'm not sure of the state that they're in anymore. But before, the girls start their own threads there, and within the threads, guys give FRs, so you get a notion of what to expect. Most of the girls also have FB pages, and some are members of FB groups. Look for pages in the PH where there are "walkers" because they call the appointments "walks". It comes from the Filipino colloquial for an appointment outside or generally going outside of the house, which is "lakad", which literally, means "to walk". Some call it "coffee". I believe there's a new term, but I'm not aware of what it is.
Hi,
I'm an Indian settled in Denmark going to Manila for a mongering trip in February. I heard that the attitude of girls differ from a Western man and a Asians particularly Indians or dark skins. Any idea about this or any suggestions?
Chocha Monger
01-14-16, 04:18
Hi,
I'm an Indian settled in Denmark going to Manila for a mongering trip in February. I heard that the attitude of girls differ from a Western man and a Asians particularly Indians or dark skins. Any idea about this or any suggestions?Manila, Philippines – Vice President Jejomar Binay has launched a new political advertisement, saying the average Filipino is dark-skinned and short or "nognog" just like him.
The ad begins with a question, "Sino ba si Nognog? (Who is Nognog?
What follows is a montage explaining that "nognog" is every Filipino who labors under the sun, who endures studying in makeshift classrooms, and who has barely enough money to eat every day.
The ad also focuses on the plight of overseas Filipino workers (OFWs), a part of the voting population that Binay, former presidential adviser on OFWs, is currently wooing during his trip to the United Arab Emirates this week. (READ: The Leader I Want: Jejomar Binay's to-fix list for 2016).
"Sino pa ba ang magtutulungan kundi tayo? (Who else will help us but ourselves? Asks a smiling Binay towards the end of the video, with a throng of his supporters in the background.
Critics of the Vice President previously used "nognog" as a derogatory term for Binay, but the United Nationalist Alliance standard-bearer has since embraced the term to paint himself as an underdog who performs.
The term "nognog" is short for "sunog" or burnt, a reference to a dark, short, with curly hair and a stubby nosed comic character created by L. S. Martinez in the 1970's. The comics story was made into a movie in 1980 with then child star Niño Muhlach in the lead role.
The Binay ad is also consistent with the Vice President's long-standing message that what he has already done in Makati, where he was mayor for 21 years, is what other politicians are only starting to promise to the voters.
Things are currently looking bright for Binay, who topped the latest Pulse Asia survey at 33% despite a string of corruption charges and allegations of unexplained wealth.
http://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/in-new-binay-ad-the-average-filipino-is-%E2%80%98nognog%E2%80%99-like-him/ar-CCtP9B?ocid=wispr
Hi,
I'm an Indian settled in Denmark going to Manila for a mongering trip in February. I heard that the attitude of girls differ from a Western man and a Asians particularly Indians or dark skins. Any idea about this or any suggestions?I tried to give you some info but you have not paid the $20 membership, so no PM facility. Yes Indians have a bad reputation. Dark skinned African Americans, have in general a good reputation. Money for an air ticket Denmark to Manila, hotels, taxis, restaurants, but no $20 for good information?
Hi,
I'm an Indian settled in Denmark going to Manila for a mongering trip in February. I heard that the attitude of girls differ from a Western man and a Asians particularly Indians or dark skins. Any idea about this or any suggestions?Obviously a sweeping generalisation, but mostly true South Asians are less desired. Several reasons for this including cheapness, smell, dislike of dark skin because it's seen as 'dirty', and the surprise gangbang where a fella picks up a girl, brings her back to his place and soon after several of his friends show up for their turns. East Asians are quite welcomed.
Anjanmulji
01-14-16, 08:55
Hi,
I am also an Indian flying into Phil on 15th February. Plans are Manila and Angeles. We can meet and hit the bars together.
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Indians became infamous in Thailand for sending one guy out to take a bar girl or freelancer back to his place. Then when this guy starts fucking the girl all his brothers, cousins, and friends start crawling out of their hiding places underneath the bed, in the closet, and behind the curtains. The form a fall-in and start cheering the first fella on while they wait their turn. If the girl protests she gets beaten in addition to being gangbanged anyway.
Everyone can only hope that the Indians will behave themselves in the Philippines but their history in Thailand's mongering scene, and the India and UAE threads on ISG do not offer much cause for optimism.Unfortunately, variations of this MO is used elsewhere, and by others groups with lesser means/willingness to pay. SouthEastAsians are just a larger expat group nowadays. I would add that some of the girls are not compensated at all. Furthermore, a fair number of WGs travel around the region and share information amongst themselves.
Known several who were basically abducted and raped in various places. What is amazing is some of the stories of how the ladies try to help and save each other (when both tell similar narratives).
Hi all,
I am so happy to be in Manila again. I am staying at the same condo I stayed in 2011. Nobody bothers me here. I did a lot of fishing on SA before I arrived which is what I use at home. I met one young lady on my first day of arrival. She is like the total non pro GFE. I took her shopping and bought her some nice things at Zara's. Ate at some nice places. She is open to almost anything sexually, although not a lot of experience. But her lazy catlike movements just walking around the mall make up for that. I was aroused just walking around with her.
She had this really cool app that she was using for rides, Taxi Grab I think is the name of it. The guy from Taxi Grab arrived within minutes of her searching the app. Also the cars were new. Maybe a few more pesos than regular cabs, but worth it.
There is also a little massage parlor right up the street from my condo, 550 pesos for 2 hour massage. The rate goes to 600 pesos for take out. After that you can negotiate for hand job or BJ.
Love Manila.
Wicked Roger
01-16-16, 00:05
Unfortunately, variations of this MO is used elsewhere, and by others groups with lesser means/willingness to pay. SouthEastAsians are just a larger expat group nowadays. I would add that some of the girls are not compensated at all. Furthermore, a fair number of WGs travel around the region and share information amongst themselves.
Known several who were basically abducted and raped in various places. What is amazing is some of the stories of how the ladies try to help and save each other (when both tell similar narratives).Same in the Middle East and with Arabs as well. The latter have been known to then call the police and claim the girl stole something or she is a illegal resulting in the girl being arrested and deported and the locals walking away.
Is a wonder why some are cautious of going with them once they here the stories or meet girls who have suffered this.
The problem is that the minority of the Indian who do this give all a bad reputation. I have many Indian friends who monger but they tend to be older, respectful, horny and generous but they also lament how others are running their chances.
Engine Driver
01-16-16, 04:38
The problem is that the minority of the Indian who do this give all a bad reputation. I have many Indian friends who monger but they tend to be older, respectful, horny and generous but they also lament how others are running their chances.I don' think this is going to be a problem any time soon. There are no direct flights from any Indian city to Manila. It's always an 8-10 hour ordeal through some other country, so it won't stack up for Indians on the value equation when compared to LOS. Bangkok is only a 2-hour flight from the eastern side of India and the ticket is a few hundred dollars.
I've worked in India and know how particular Indians are about food. In LOS, there are plenty of Indian options and the Thai food is spicy enough to satisfy. What are the Indians going to eat in Angeles? Jollie Bee and Pork Adobo? Not a chance. I'm an Aussie and even I struggle with the food in Angeles.
RockyHardy21
01-16-16, 09:07
I don' think this is going to be a problem any time soon. There are no direct flights from any Indian city to Manila. It's always an 8-10 hour ordeal through some other country, so it won't stack up for Indians on the value equation when compared to LOS. Bangkok is only a 2-hour flight from the eastern side of India and the ticket is a few hundred dollars.
I've worked in India and know how particular Indians are about food. In LOS, there are plenty of Indian options and the Thai food is spicy enough to satisfy. What are the Indians going to eat in Angeles? Jollie Bee and Pork Adobo? Not a chance. I'm an Aussie and even I struggle with the food in Angeles.There are no direct flights to Manila. But with stopover through China or Thailand or Malaysia. Reason is not many Indians go to Philippines. I wonder if many of them even know what kind of paradise it is.
2. The sex ratio in India which always keep a man on the lower side so when they reach to a place like heaven for mongers, they feel shy or inferior, so they try to visit in groups. The truth they have this suppressed frustration within.
3. Indians are taught in their class to save money, so in everything they try to save. I have seen in my office back in Canada, how they feel proud in sharing one plate and caring for freebies.
4. I don't agree about the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) thing, I wonder as Chocha monger said ever happened.
5. the thumb rule for Indians to save money. I know many here in kl who share 1 flat with 5 people.
Now this is all is true for 60-65% of them.
Rest as Wicked Roger said they are generous, horny and gentleman.
But yes the time is too tough for Indians if they don't change the attitude.
Having said that I also say the best people I have met were also some Indians, but someone has to pay for else sins. So whomsoever the guy was who asked about Indians, I would suggest go there have fun and make sure at least they have few good things to talk about Indians once you leave.
WestCoast1
01-16-16, 18:11
Being dark-skinned is the least of the Indians' problems. Indians, or "boombay" as the girls call them, are considered stinky stingy and abusive. Indian men are now notorious worldwide for attacking women and gangbanging them to death, sometimes they will tie up the women's boyfriend or husband and make him watch then have their way with him too. Indian women and foreign tourists visiting India have fallen prey to such treatment.Pictured are some of my honies lounging about the hotel one day. It was a lazy long afternoon, dozing, talking, FB and such. As the girls passed around my laptop and utilized FB, one of them pointed out an Indian in a picture and the discussion among the girls turned very serious. I enquired the topic and they switched to engrish and said that all of them had recently dropped any Indians as friends in FB because they had recently discovered that Indians were molesters (and the beaters of women), and they told me of the Indian bus-molestation case (which they had only recently discovered). I googled the case, the girls were not aware that the case was from several years ago. We found more recent issues. They claimed that their other friends said that Indians were molesters also. They went on to inform me that the Indians in the Americas are molesters also. After a bit, it became clear to me that the girls were confusing asians from India with local indian tribes in the Americas. A bit of googling convinced them that they had projected their bad thoughts of Asian Indians onto native American Indians. The confusing of the groups with the same name is understandable. The 'well-known' problem that Asian Indian culture has established itself in has become its reputation. The "Internet of things" perpetuates everything.
SandyRandy2014
01-16-16, 22:51
Pictured are some of my honies lounging about the hotel one day. It was a lazy long afternoon, dozing, talking, FB and such. As the girls passed around my laptop and utilized FB, one of them pointed out an Indian in a picture and the discussion among the girls turned very serious. I enquired the topic and they switched to engrish and said that all of them had recently dropped any Indians as friends in FB because they had recently discovered that Indians were molesters (and the beaters of women), and they told me of the Indian bus-molestation case (which they had only recently discovered). I googled the case, the girls were not aware that the case was from several years ago. We found more recent issues. They claimed that their other friends said that Indians were molesters also. They went on to inform me that the Indians in the Americas are molesters also. After a bit, it became clear to me that the girls were confusing asians from India with local indian tribes in the Americas. A bit of googling convinced them that they had projected their bad thoughts of Asian Indians onto native American Indians. The confusing of the groups with the same name is understandable. The 'well-known' problem that Asian Indian culture has established itself in has become its reputation. The "Internet of things" perpetuates everything.I am of Indian origin and have traveled (and mongered) extensively around the world (will post backdated reports soon). I can confirm that Indians from India are gutter swine and really give everyone associated with being (brown) colored a bad name. I have personally noticed disgusting behavior from Indians everywhere. Sure there are respectable Indians, but to be honest it's probably a very small percentage. An important point to note is, as soon as I open my mouth and talk to a girl, it becomes apparent to her that I don't sound Indian and sooner or later they end up confessing their dislike towards my genetic bredrin. All I can tell them is, please don't put all Indians in the same category, there are some of us who are actually respectable in this questionable hobby and are only out for a good time.
Hopefully, my trip to Manila will not be ruined by this. Was genuinely looking forward to a good time.
Thank you Xman and others who have a decent opinion of Indians.
Its funny to read the opinion of many others about Indians. Brown skin, gang bangers, molesters, [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127), cheapos, savers, stinky etc etc. I actually feel sorry for you guys who are generalizes and judgmental on an entire country. Yes there are cases of Indians in groups taking out a girl to the room and multiple guys banging her. Yes there's the case of a office worker girl being picked up from roadside by a bunch of guys and gang raped, private parts mutilated who ultimately died in a Singapore hospital a week later while undergoing treatment. It always happens that the worst of the incidents get more publicity and gets around faster. If those working girls in streets of Manila or AC or wherever in Philippines or Thailand can have that opinion being hardly educated or traveled. How different are you from those girls to have the same opinion.
Does that make only Indians qualify for all the adjectives our friends used here? Do all people from a particular community become terrorists? Are all Australians naked bushmen? Are all Africans or Colombians drug peddlers and scammers? Is every Frenchman the greatest lover? Go and read reports about Thai women being abducted and murdered by so called white supremacist guys. Umpteen number of cases, Aussie and English [CodeWord914] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord914) travelling around the world looking for kids. See the and number of reports where a 65 year old pot bellied Aussie or English guy in shorts and flipflops in LOS or AC screwing an 18 year old and proudly proclaiming that he checked the ID. She was past 18. Ya? A 65 year old banging an 18 year old? That's an acceptable behavior? Or all those Aussies and others getting [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk in groups and raising hell in streets of Bali and elsewhere?
India is a country fast developing. Huge parcels of land in lot many villages around big cities like Mumbai Delhi Bangalore Hyderabad etc and other urban areas are being bought by big corporate, governments for developmental projects are suddenly rich with huge monies after their lands being acquired. What do they do with the money? With part of the money they travel for fun and sex too. So yes a few of those rural indians do exhibit such horrible behavior. Yes Indians love to save. They save for themselves and save for families. Indians working in many countries around the world including Singapore Malaysia Emirates or anywhere else live frugally when required and in shared accommodations because they need not blow up all they earn and some more, so that the purpose of them coming to a different country and earn and send back money back home is achieved. You would be surprised to read genuine travel survey reports that per capita Indians are among some of the highest spenders when they travel. Similar frugal living is done by Filipinos, Chinese, Koreans, Indonesians and people from many more countries around the world. Its better to be frugal when needed rather than live in credit. Mortgage and remortgage your houses, live on plastic, and take the economy into the gutter. America UK Spain Greece Italy and many more so called "white" countries. We all know the debt levels of these countries.
Indians are extremely successful and live an above average life in general compared to the average population of that country in terms of GDP in many countries of the world. Singapore Malaysia Indonesia UK USA GCC Kenya south Africa Australia and where not. If Indians were gangbangers and cheapos and all the other stuff you all have spoken about here was true. This wouldn't have been the case.
Every culture, race, country has their virtues and vices. There are bad apples in every crop. Respect.
RockyHardy21
01-17-16, 13:20
I am of Indian origin and have traveled (and mongered) extensively around the world (will post backdated reports soon). I can confirm that Indians from India are gutter swine and really give everyone associated with being (brown) colored a bad name. I have personally noticed disgusting behavior from Indians everywhere. Sure there are respectable Indians, but to be honest it's probably a very small percentage. An important point to note is, as soon as I open my mouth and talk to a girl, it becomes apparent to her that I don't sound Indian and sooner or later they end up confessing their dislike towards my genetic bredrin. All I can tell them is, please don't put all Indians in the same category, there are some of us who are actually respectable in this questionable hobby and are only out for a good time.
Hopefully, my trip to Manila will not be ruined by this. Was genuinely looking forward to a good time.At Sandy Randy I wonder if you have been mongering across the world than you have been through this question many times and probably you have won their heart with being nice. If that is the case than why youn are so much worried about this next trip.
I mean its difficult to understand, if you have been so much into this why you are worried.
Girls across the world feel wrong about few Indians behavior but I have heard some good stories too. So what is making you so frustrated and worried?
Thumb rule for mongering: be nice and gentleman, if a girl say no take it no and chase another beauty in same gentle manner.
Hi,
Went to LA cafe Saturday afternoon. The place was full on the first floor. Lots of customers and working girls. For the most, I would say about 73% of the girls looked pretty hardcore. But still pretty and doable. Most of the girls were fairly aggressive to the walk ins.
I picked up a cute little chunky muffin top, very cute and friendly. Took her home with me, it took forever to get back. I think there was some kind of fiesta for the weekend. Got back home and she did what ever I wanted. I gave her 3 k at the end of the night, she did not ask for anything up front.
I did learn that some of the girls like to smoke meth, "shabu" and from what I have read it is a life sentence for possession in PI. Something to be aware of.
Hi Ya all!
Any recommendations on a tour guide? Real guide for tourist trap sites?
The rest I can find by groping my way trough.
Thanks
Hi Ya all!
Any recommendations on a tour guide? Real guide for tourist trap sites?
The rest I can find by groping my way trough.Best if a WG or SemiPro and book her LT. RTFF the forums for people who have done that by fingering their way through social media. PI is great because of the language and the acceptance of mixed couples. I rarely post here because it is like shooting fish in a barrel.
Thanks for your quotes about Indians.
Happy mongering and enjoy your days.
I am totally willing to have sex with a variety of ladies from different backgrounds.FWIW, I am pretty certain the reciprocal is not true; at least it is not for me. I think most posters are giving WB a heads up and some good advice buried in there. Flash money and smoke and nurture a reputation like the East Asians.
Even though she is a ho, she does like like being treated like one. Know about GFE? It goes both ways.
Thumb rule for mongering: be nice and gentleman, if a girl say no take it no and chase another beauty in same gentle manner.
Thank you Xman and others who have a decent opinion of Indians.
I don't know if some Indians are really treated unfairly in Thailand.
But I have heard about it, and if it is true why do you want to go there?
Those bastards don't deserve your time and money.
Avoid bad energy and negative karma.
Just have fun with nice people somewhere else.
.This is from the Thailand thread. LMAO.
Any recommendations on a tour guide? Real guide for tourist trap sites?
Since you posted this in the Manila thread I presume you're asking for MM. The good news is there's not a lot to see. Certainly Intramuros is worth a tour. I'd skip the calesa (horse-drawn carriage) as they are expensive. Inside Intramuros are churches, some small museums / exhibits, and even an antique shop or two. Mapua University is there, and though itself isn't remarkable there is the famous Manang's Chicken carinderia. Nearby is Rizal Park, which has Japanese and Chinese gardens. Bionondo is the world's oldest Chinatown. It's a real, living Chinatown and not a tourist-trap Chinatown. Divisoria shopping mall is here. Lunar New Year is coming soon and with it is the parade and festival there. Beware the pick pockets. There's a very good tour guide named Carlos Celdran, and he does walking tours of various areas, http: // celdrantours (dot) blog spot (dot) com, and on his website is a list of all kinds of other guides in Metro Manila and a few places in the rest of the Philippines. Malacanang Palace. In Escolta St, once the city's premier commercial street, there are several historic classical and art deco buildings, and the first 'skyscrapers', but they're in various states, from being renovated to dilapidated. The university belt district is worth a look, especially UST (University of Santo Tomas) and FEU (Far Eastern University) if you like colonial Spanish and art deco architecture. If you like corals and tropical fish the aquarium at the Ocean Park / H2O hotel is good for a few-hour visit, and the night time laser fountain water show is enjoyable. Then there's the malls and what not.
Best if a WG or SemiPro and book her LT. In my experience a lot of Filipinos don't take an interest in their places and history, so don't expect to learn much. She may be good hailing a cab and speaking to the driver. Of course this is not true of all girls, so better to ask a girl what she knows about a place, for example Intramuros, before making her a guide. Knowledgable or not, the girl will be happy to accompany you as you wander around.
FreebieFan
01-21-16, 01:41
In my experience a lot of Filipinos don't take an interest in their places and history, so don't expect to learn much. She may be good hailing a cab and speaking to the driver. Of course this is not true of all girls, so better to ask a girl what she knows about a place, for example Intramuros, before making her a guide. .Totally agree. When I worked there I took a group of 22 staff to Corregidor. All were from Manila. None had ever been to Corregidor and most didn't know anything about its 1939- 1945 history which for many is fascinating. Definately an interesting place to see but its generally a full day trip.
For the record:
I have decent opinions of decent Indians.
I have disgusting opinions of disgusting Indians.
All opinions have been well earned.
Member #4387
01-21-16, 08:58
I must say I am stunned by your knowledge. As an quite unintersting country, which I find Phils, I must say you guys went the extra length to explore this city of which we call Manila (realy a short name from all the areas / small cities within its new city limits). You allways give solid advices for nubes to follow. You are great posters and don't allways post shit like I do I guess its room for everyones woice inside forum such as this.
Corregidor is one of the most interesting places I have been to in the world.
A MUST for every Manila visitor. Largely overlooked by tourists.
Joe Karnavic
01-21-16, 16:39
Same in the Middle East and with Arabs as well. The latter have been known to then call the police and claim the girl stole something or she is a illegal resulting in the girl being arrested and deported and the locals walking away.
Is a wonder why some are cautious of going with them once they here the stories or meet girls who have suffered this.
The problem is that the minority of the Indian who do this give all a bad reputation. I have many Indian friends who monger but they tend to be older, respectful, horny and generous but they also lament how others are running their chances.Well said my friend Wicked Roger!
The cheap Indian travelers on package tours started going to BKK and other far-east countries in early 90's who have done most of the damage. They came in groups wearing sports shoes and baggy shirts. They will go to Go-go bars in Soi Cowboy, buy one beer between 4 people and watch topless girls. They were smelly, rude and came from lower class of Indians who could not afford to go to Switzerland on holiday. The affluents and well educated Indians were well respected in Europe especially in Switzerland so much so that locals opened Indian restaurants on Mount Titlis.
Now in BKK the bars make non-farangs to buy a bottle of beer minimum for entry. My advise to Indians is be generous in bars, buy few drinks for the girls sitting nearby, be respectful to women, tip the waitresses well and then you see how things change around you! You need the pay little more to compensate for the sins committed by others.
Hi Ya all!
Any recommendations on a tour guide? Real guide for tourist trap sites?
The rest I can find by groping my way trough.
Thanks
Totally agree. When I worked there I took a group of 22 staff to Corregidor. All were from Manila. None had ever been to Corregidor and most didn't know anything about its 1939- 1945 history which for many is fascinating. Definately an interesting place to see but its generally a full day trip.
In my experience a lot of Filipinos don't take an interest in their places and history, so don't expect to learn much. She may be good hailing a cab and speaking to the driver. Of course this is not true of all girls, so better to ask a girl what she knows about a place, for example Intramuros, before making her a guide. Knowledgable or not, the girl will be happy to accompany you as you wander around.LOL. Apologies. Did not realize that there were so many students of history and historical aficionados on this section of the board. Yes, the history is PI and the rest of Asia is actually quite interesting, but I find few ladies interested in such pursuits, outside of novelized versions.
In China, I was told, there is a stringent licensing and historical China fact testing regiment for tour guides. They passed my test. In some places you can find tours offered by university professors for those interested in more intellectual pursuits. For the rest of us, the tour desk at the hotel or Gray Line is sufficient. Fodors and LP will have more than enough information for most travellers. Some cities and museums now have tour mobile apps.
FWIW, going native with a SYT / WG back to her village is an eye opening experience. Just make sure you have all your shots and more. Also, ignorance of local historical facts and not visiting local tourist sites in not unique to Manila. Many New Yorkers have never been to the Statue of Liberty, unless it was part of a mandatory school trip.
Take a tour of the home of Emilio Aguinaldo, the first president of the Philippines, in Cavite. Your ladies will be so impressed when you convince the tour guide to show you the hidden passages and stairways he used to hide and spy on his guests. You will also see the entrance to a a hidden tunnel that was there for him to escape to a church several hundred meters away. Unfortunately the tunnel is closed due to disrepair.
It was actually very cool. I felt like a ten year old kid again exploring and climbing through those passages looking through eye holes in the wall he used to watch his guests, and seeing the old original medicine bottles in the hidden bathrooms.
Hi guys,
Recently got back from my first extended trip (2 weeks) to the PI. I spent about 4-5 days in Manila, and the rest seeing other parts of the country. During that time, me and a couple of friends visited the common sites P. Burgos, EDSA complex, Greenbelt 3/ Havana Caf Area, and LA Caf. Although I don't have as much experience as many of the more longstanding members of this PI discussion group, I thought I would throw my 2 cents in. I generally don't talk about individual encounters. Chemistry with women, and their skills, is far too variable. One report does not reflect on what the next guy may experience, even with the same girl. I also don't like writing blow for blow soft core porn. No disrespect to those who do. Sometimes I have fun reading that stuff too. I just don't like writing it. I try to provide descriptive info on the venues and the vibe. Things that I would want to know while planning my first visit. That's my take.
P. Burgos is a short street in the northeast corner of Makati that acts as a red-light district. There are a total of about 8-10 girly bars either on P. Burgos or just off it, in the same style as Soi Cowboy type clubs. My personal favorites were Plan be and Kojax. Plan be has the best layout (plenty of comfortable niches to sit or stand with a good view of the stage), blasting aircon, clean with no weird smells, relatively cheap 100 pesos beers, good music (a strong lean towards hip hop and surprisingly good choice in music) and overall the prettiest girls (but by a small margin). Bar fines are still too high IMHO, but the best place to knock back a few beers and enjoy the view. As long as you keep buying booze, the managers and staff don't bother you.
I read a few favorable reviews of Kojax, which is slightly off the main street. The recommendations were spot on. It's up a set of stairs and looks like a dive place from the outside, but go on in. It's a nice club, with girls that are just a notch below Plan be but still attractive. Best of all, bar fines here are more reasonable and negotiable. My friend bargained down an initial quote of 2500 plus LD down to 2000 plus LD. Still high, but acceptable if you like the girl, and he picked a cutey. Once you check out the other clubs on P. Burgos, you will realize that the combo of cute girls and more realistic bar fines is hard to find in this neighborhood.
Bottoms is the most expensive club, and anchor of the whole P. Burgos Street. Everything is expensive there, including the famous 3900 bar fine. Whatever. The girls here were no better looking than Plan be, and the layout of the club isn't nearly as good. The music tended more toward electronica. Walk in, take a look, then head to Plan be. The rest of the bars on P. Burgos, IMHO, were completely forgettable.
As others have described, EDSA Complex is a small strip-mall reconstructed into a complex of about 5-6 girly bars. It's in the adjacent neighborhood called Pasay, and on the main thoroughfare street called EDSA. My choice for the best bar here would be PitStop. The girls here rate below Plan be but above Kojax. And of course, the bar fines are a more reasonable 1950. The clubs here aren't quite as nice as those in Makati, but the vibe is more relaxed. IMHO EDSA is the best if you are seriously looking to hookup.
The downside is that it is in the middle of nowhere. Pasay is not a walk able area. EDSA Street is a main traffic thoroughfare with absolutely nothing of interest on it just a never ending logjam of cars belching carbon monoxide. The area is older, dirtier, and stinkier. No nice cafes to stop into and maybe meet people. Just Mall of Asia, which is a not so close 20 minute walk west. It's a blah mall notable only for the fact that you can see IMAX movies here for cheap. There is also Baclaran flea market about 10 minutes walk south, which is good if you want to find cheap bootleg shoes, t-shirts, etc.
If your trip is long enough, my advice would be to sample both. The thing to know about Manila is that traffic congestion is really bad. A taxi ride from EDSA to P. Burgos at 11 pm took us 45 minutes. That's for a distance of about 2-3 miles. It helps a lot to be situated near whatever you want to do. If you are travelling the country, there is a chance that you may be in a situation where you fly out early in the morning and are trying to get to the airport during rush hour. Take that opportunity to sample it. The Heritage hotel is nice and about a 10 minute walk to EDSA.
But if you have to choose, bite the bullet and stay in Makati, the higher end neighborhood. The streets are wider and cleaner; all the buildings are more modern. Parts of it are very walk able, with cafes and far more choices for nice restaurants. Plus you are close to Greenbelt Mall, what many consider to be the best mall for picking up. On Saturdays, there is a food / farmers market called Salcedo food market, at which I had the best meal I had in the entire PI hands down.
If you have heard about Greenbelt Mall, the situation is this. There is an outdoor section of Greenbelt 3 mall with a large restobar and patio called Havana Caf. There is a Starbucks just next to it, and a smaller wine bar on the other side of it. Together, they form this little outdoor enclave that, apparently, is a big freelancer pickup spot. I visited this area solo, at about 11 pm and was not impressed. You definitely see girls in groups of 2 or 3, sitting at various tables with wandering eyes. Clearly on the hunt. Most of the women I thought were a little older. But the majority of the area is filled with regular mall goers, so it makes for an awkward scene. Plus Havana Caf is really expensive. Personally, I didn't see what all the fuss is about. Expensive people-watching real estate with little to see, and the potentially embarrassing situation of trying to pick up a woman who is not a GRO. Plus, you bypass the screening efforts that clubs on P. Burgos and EDSA provide. I nursed one drink for a while, then left. If you are curious, and want to have a nice meal before heading out to P. Burgos, then go for it. Otherwise avoid.
LA Caf is a large dive bar in Ermita not far from Robinson's Mall. Its open 24/7 and packed with slightly older and less attractive girls, but there were a few gems. While I was disappointed by Havana Caf, I was pleasantly surprised by LA Caf. My expectations for it were on the floor, and it was not bad. I stopped by there late afternoon, after finishing sightseeing in Intramuros and walking my way back to Pasay through Ermita. It was nice to walk into a well aircon bar and have a beer or two and something to eat, with some scenery. I did not hookup, but I could see myself do so under different circumstances. If you are staying in Ermita / Malate, I would definitely consider it. Apparently, many tourists stay in Ermita / Malate (I have no earthly idea why), but I wouldn't haul my ass out there just to visit it.
My overall impression of the punting scene in the Manila? Pretty ok, but a little overpriced and overrated. But after spending some time in the PI, I can see WHY it is overrated. Here's the thing. Pinoys are very friendly, fun loving people. Foreigners are thought highly of, especially Americans. And everyone speaks at least some English. The PI has a strong historical relationship with the USA. If you have just a little game, many of the women are very open to meeting and chatting up foreigners. And I am NOT talking about GROs. I am in my late 30's, and I was able to strike up conversations with women that would be clearly out of my league in the USA. I have no doubt that if I lived there for about 6 months, and spent some time in regular nightclubs, that I could find a super hot, serious girlfriend in no time. And there are some seriously hot women there. I can see how expats living in the PI are having a great time. I saw many guys in their 50's and 60's walking around with girlfriends in their 30's. Nothing wrong with that. We are all eventually looking for connections. More power to you.
But the dating scene is different from the punting scene. The punting scene is way overpriced, and the girls who work as GROs in the clubs are a completely different population of women. Many are uneducated country girls or single moms who desperately need to make money. Nothing wrong with that. But I can see how enthusiasm about the dating scene can spill into the punting scene, but the two are just very different.
So go to the PI to check it out. You know you want to. And you have to. Just keep your expectations in check.
And BTW, just one more bit of advice that I HAVE to mention--use the metro. It isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be. I lived in Manhattan for a few years, and the situation in the train cars was about the same as NYC during rush hour. Uncomfortable, but not THAT bad. It only costs about 20-30 pesos to ride, depending on how far you go. Buy a prepaid fare card and put 100 pesos on it. Having a prepaid card bypasses a LONG line of people buying individual tickets. I have NO idea why locals are buying the individual tickets. The cars themselves were crowded, but no more crowded than NYC at rush hour. It's uncomfortable, but the discomfort is far outweighed by the pleasure of zipping over traffic jams that you can look at in glee. I zipped from Quezon to Pasay in 20 minutes at 4:30 pm rush hour. The same ride in a tax would have taken over an hour.Just beware of pickpockets.
I had a great time in the PI. If anyone has specific questions, feel free to PM me.
I read a few favorable reviews of Kojax, which is slightly off the main street. The recommendations were spot on. It's up a set of stairs and looks like a dive place from the outside, but go on in. It's a nice club, with girls that are just a notch below Plan be but still attractive. Best of all, bar fines here are more reasonable and negotiable. My friend bargained down an initial quote of 2500 plus LD down to 2000 plus LD. Still high, but acceptable if you like the girl, and he picked a cutey. Once you check out the other clubs on P. Burgos, you will realize that the combo of cute girls and more realistic bar fines is hard to find in this neighborhood.Nice write up thanks for taking the time. You moved around the city pretty good and have some good advice which I will benefit from.
As for Burgos St we have different favorites and I was curious about the BF your friend paid at Kojax. When I was there a few months ago Kojax's BF was 2,600 p and the lady wanted 3,000 p ST. Short time meaning around 3 hours of bar hopping and screwing. You say your friend negotiated the BF down to 2,000 plus LD, that's surprising. I hope I can negotiate on my next Kojax visit. What did he give the lady as a tip?
On my visits the Kojax dancers blew Plan be out of the water. For me both clubs are comfortable w / similar drink pressure. I liked Plan be and took my Kojax BFs there. The seating and viewing is better at Plan be but Kojax had many more lookers than Plan be IMO. I do understand the bars are constantly moving women here and there. I think Kojax and Plan B are owned by the same person or group.
Bottoms used to be the top bar but the quality there has gone down hill, they have a happy hour (till 7 pm) BF around 2,900 p, I think.
I really like Burgos but the BFs and tips are ridiculous. The FL scene on Burgos St is pretty wild and on my last visit there were a couple of very nice FLers hunting amongst the hordes on Burgos St, 2,000 p I think.
Again Manny thanks for the quality TR.
Thanks for the report, Manny. I was there a few weeks ago, stayed 4 nights in Makati and checked out Burgos clubs as well as MPs in Quezon City. You did an excellent job capturing the scene, the traffic, and Green Belt 3. I did not make it to EDSA. Pleased to know they have a metro. Next time, I will give it a try, as the taxi ride from Makati to Quezon was brutal.
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