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Soapy Smith
01-29-16, 23:47
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If your trip is long enough, my advice would be to sample both. The thing to know about Manila is that traffic congestion is really bad. A taxi ride from EDSA to P. Burgos at 11 pm took us 45 minutes.

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So go to the PI to check it out. You know you want to. And you have to. Just keep your expectations in check.

And BTW, just one more bit of advice that I HAVE to mention--use the metro. It isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be. I lived in Manhattan for a few years, and the situation in the train cars was about the same as NYC during rush hour. Uncomfortable, but not THAT bad. It only costs about 20-30 pesos to ride, depending on how far you go. Buy a prepaid fare card and put 100 pesos on it. Having a prepaid card bypasses a LONG line of people buying individual tickets. I have NO idea why locals are buying the individual tickets. The cars themselves were crowded, but no more crowded than NYC at rush hour. It's uncomfortable, but the discomfort is far outweighed by the pleasure of zipping over traffic jams that you can look at in glee. I zipped from Quezon to Pasay in 20 minutes at 4:30 pm rush hour. The same ride in a tax would have taken over an hour.Just beware of pickpockets.

You learned a lot and described it well for somebody who spent only 4 to 5 days in Manila.

What you refer to as the Metro is actually three different systems. LRT 1 runs North and South from Baclaran (Pasay City) to Monumento (Caloocan City), and then East into Quezon City. LRT 2 runs East and West from near LRT 1 in the Quiapo area (Manila City) to Marikina City. The MRT, which you refer to as the Metro, runs along EDSA (the highway) from near LRT 1 (not far from the EDSA Complex you describe, in Pasay City) to SM North and Trinoma Malls in Quezon City. LRT 1 and the MRT get very packed during the day; a little less so early in the morning and after about 7 or 8 pm. Be aware that pick pockets work these trains, so keep valuables in front of you and well protected. LRT 2 is newer, less packed, has better air conditioning, and so probably less susceptible to pick pockets.

It is true that you can save a lot of time riding these systems as compared to taxis, and they are cheaper. Buying the multiple ride ticket is excellent advice. A principal limitation is that they stop running a little after 10 pm and do not reopen until early morning. Fortunately, traffic is less dense for the taxis during that period, but check out the rail schedules beforehand so you don't get stuck.

One other thought: since they run above ground (except for a short part of MRT through Makati), they are not susceptible to flooding, as are taxis. Rainy season in the summer can create some major street flooding that taxis cannot negotiate.

There are some useful background and tactical recommendations from a few years ago in the "blog" section of the Phils Forum under the name "Getting Around in Manila. ".

Manny51
01-30-16, 01:41
You learned a lot and described it well for somebody who spent only 4 to 5 days in Manila.

What you refer to as the Metro is actually three different systems. LRT 1 runs North and South from Baclaran (Pasay City) to Monumento (Caloocan City), and then East into Quezon City. LRT 2 runs East and West from near LRT 1 in the Quiapo area (Manila City) to Marikina City. The MRT, which you refer to as the Metro, runs along EDSA (the highway) from near LRT 1 (not far from the EDSA Complex you describe, in Pasay City) to SM North and Trinoma Malls in Quezon City. LRT 1 and the MRT get very packed during the day; a little less so early in the morning and after about 7 or 8 pm. Be aware that pick pockets work these trains, so keep valuables in front of you and well protected. LRT 2 is newer, less packed, has better air conditioning, and so probably less susceptible to pick pockets.

It is true that you can save a lot of time riding these systems as compared to taxis, and they are cheaper. Buying the multiple ride ticket is excellent advice. A principal limitation is that they stop running a little after 10 pm and do not reopen until early morning. Fortunately, traffic is less dense for the taxis during that period, but check out the rail schedules beforehand so you don't get stuck.

One other thought: since they run above ground (except for a short part of MRT through Makati), they are not susceptible to flooding, as are taxis. Rainy season in the summer can create some major street flooding that taxis cannot negotiate.

There are some useful background and tactical recommendations from a few years ago in the "blog" section of the Phils Forum under the name "Getting Around in Manila. ".Thanks for the feedback!

When I use the term "metro" I was referring to the whole system, not just the MRT blue line. In getting more detailed, I would note that the North / South LRT line trains seem much newer than then older east / west MRT line. The aircon in the LRT line blasted harder and was much better at keeping the train cool. The MRT trains are more rickety and hotter. Fortunately, tourists are only going about 2-3 stops on the MRT line. Rides on the LRT line are longer, so the extra aircon comes in handy.

I would also add that the best time to ride the metro in general is between 10 am to 4 pm. Try to avoid rush hours. But even if you happen to get stuck in it, like I was, it won't be that bad.

Manny51
01-30-16, 01:54
Nice write up thanks for taking the time. You moved around the city pretty good and have some good advice which I will benefit from.

As for Burgos St we have different favorites and I was curious about the BF your friend paid at Kojax. When I was there a few months ago Kojax's BF was 2,600 p and the lady wanted 3,000 p ST. Short time meaning around 3 hours of bar hopping and screwing. You say your friend negotiated the BF down to 2,000 plus LD, that's surprising. I hope I can negotiate on my next Kojax visit. What did he give the lady as a tip?

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I really like Burgos but the BFs and tips are ridiculous. The FL scene on Burgos St is pretty wild and on my last visit there were a couple of very nice FLers hunting amongst the hordes on Burgos St, 2,000 p I think.

Again Manny thanks for the quality TR.He paid 3000 for a 2 pop short time. For P. Burgos, I would say that that is the going rate. You may be able to get one pop for 2500, and some (including myself) would say that that is a better strategy. Some girls try to bail early, so there is no point in pretending to negotiate a longer stay up front. Once they are at your place, if the vibe with them is good, its easier to negotiate another pop or LT.

But tips for the girl are highly variable. Alot depends on how busy the night is, and how she feels about you. The tip I was trying to emphasize is that barfines are not always set in stone. Kojax is a place where the total package can be reasonable.

Manny51
01-30-16, 02:45
On further reflection, I thought I would mull the question: How does the PI compare to the reset of SE Asia? Or other fun countries for that matter?

Firstly, on the ladies themselves. Their look is different from, say, Thais and Vietnamese. In addition to slightly darker skin, Filipinos have some Spanish / European in their ancestry. So they have bigger eyes. I thought that Filipino babies were some of the cutest I have ever seen. Asian faces / features, but with these big expressive eyes. That being said, I would say that I still prefer the more classical asian look – lighter skin, slender figures, more delicate features.

As for the punting scene per se, in Thailand you have many options – Soi Cowboy girly bars, soapy massage, oily massage, and other less conventional venues. In the PI, you don't have anywhere near that kind of variety. Its almost completely just girly bars. But despite that, prices in the PI are actually higher than in Thailand or Vietnam. For a quality barfined girl, you are out an average of 5000 pesos. That sum goes a lot further in other SE Asia countries.

So slightly less attractive women (in my opinion), paying more for less variety, and a location more off the beaten track and harder to get to. So why bother? Why has the PI become so legendary in punting circles?

Because everyone speaks English. That's the key. Being able to converse in more than just hand gestures and "where are you from?" makes the vetting and social process so much easier and natural. You can take them on a date. Dirty talk and moaning during, and pillow talk after. When you combine that with the natural friendliness and "bahala na" of the Filipino people, it just makes the GFE so much easier to reach. Whether subconsciously or not, this has caused western men to gravitate to the PI, increasing demand, and thus driving up prices.

When you compare the PI to Thailand / Vietnam, that ability to converse and connect is hard to put a price tag on. But that's what the premium is for. And that's why the PI is worth going to.

Korkavado
01-30-16, 04:01
Hi,

I had a blast my 2 weeks in Manila. I don't really go out to the bar scene at night, there is no need here. Although I did go to LA cafe one afternoon. I stayed in a nice 2 bedroom condo. Very good rate: with electric and water ended up being 40 dollars a night. Found on AIRBNB, but also the same condo I stayed in 2011.

I had arranged some contacts through SA, there are many on there, and for ladies it is free. I think it is mostly spread by word of mouth there. But I use it at home and has worked well for me. The young ladies I met through SA were already taken care of by their parents, they just wanted some extra funds for makeup and clothes. Non pros and not much experience, but willing to do what was asked. One told me she liked it because it was fun for her. I did have a lot of fun with the SA ladies. They had their other life they had to return to of course. You can expect to give an allowance of anywhere from 4 k to 6 k and they will be very happy to spend the day with you, indulging your desires, you just have to show them what to do.

On to the LA cafe girls, they were nice but both into "ice", so I did smoke some with them. I do not advise or recommend this to anyone unfamiliar with recreational use, not to mention the legality, and the affect to your health, especially someone close to 60 such as myself. Downside: you will be awake for 30 hours, you will not be able to get an erection. Upside: it makes the girls insanely horny, it creates a desire to lick the girls all night. One girl started masturbating with her I-Pad. I thought that was hilarious. A new meaning to social networking.

After that night I got a sore throat, I walked up to the Family Friendly health clinic. I was very surprised at how efficient it was. I was in and out in less than an hour. I saw the doctor, cost 350 pesos for a doctors visit. Diagnosis Pharyngitis: Sore throat. The prescription was more than the Dr. S visit. Azithromycin (this is the best antibiotic I have ever used) one pill is 105 pesos.

It seems to me the ladies are so friendly here, from the supermarket to the pharmacy all made it clear they were available to the foreigner, but I do not have the time or the desire to pursue a meaningful relationship. Or perhaps I was just imagining the gesture of her turning her ass so I could get a better view. As I said you do not have to look far to find sweet women here.

Don't lose your old contacts, they are so happy that you contact them again and will set you up with their neighborhood friends. They are much more appreciative and generous and expect very little. They would come all the way across town just to shop for me and take care of me.

In the end I always went back to my old contacts. They probably would have stayed with me for free, just for the AirCon and the nice pizza and burgers. I did give 2 k a day and they were well pleased with that. And they said any of their friends would be well pleased with that. These girls are just happy to get smashed with me. Yeah I did get high with my old contacts too. It was a blast.

One of my old contacts had 9 people in a 2 room house 5 years ago, now the same house is up to 12 with the addition of 3 new babies. But they put on a great feast for me and all was good.

I did not see, even from the LA cafe girls the barracuda looking for something shiny to run with. I may have been lucky, but I always treat the girls right and so far they have returned the favor.

Got to love Manila.

Kork

GoodEnough
01-30-16, 13:10
He paid 3000 for a 2 pop short time. For P. Burgos, I would say that that is the going rate. You may be able to get one pop for 2500, and some (including myself) would say that that is a better strategy. Some girls try to bail early, so there is no point in pretending to negotiate a longer stay up front. Once they are at your place, if the vibe with them is good, its easier to negotiate another pop Just to clarify a bit, Kojax, Hot Spot and Plan B are all part of the same "group," which means they basically have the same owner. The standard BF at each place is 2,600, which, with three lady drinks, can be negotiated to Php2,000 quite easily. The rest is up to you and the girls most of whom, in my experience, are willing to go long time. All of the chief mama sans, Emmy at Kojax, Raffi at Hot Spot and Vanessa at Plan B know each other well and they're friends. So in a sense, getting to know one of them, and then mentioning that friendship to any of the others will work fine. I believe these are by far the best bars on the street, but of course that's just my opinion.

GE.

IllusionHeart
01-30-16, 15:50
Just to clarify a bit, Kojax, Hot Spot and Plan B are all part of the same "group," which means they basically have the same owner. The standard BF at each place is 2,600, which, with three lady drinks, can be negotiated to Php2,000 quite easily.

GE.Thanks for the intel GE. We paid 2900 peso BF at Plan be and don't remember if lady drinks were over and above. But sure am going to remember this on the next trip.

D Cups
01-30-16, 16:22
Yikes, Kork, be careful. Is this the same thing as shabu?


Hi,


On to the LA cafe girls, they were nice but both into "ice", so I did smoke some with them. I do not advise or recommend this to anyone unfamiliar with recreational use, not to mention the legality, and the affect to your health, especially someone close to 60 such as myself. Downside: you will be awake for 30 hours, you will not be able to get an erection. Upside: it makes the girls insanely horny, it creates a desire to lick the girls all night. One girl started masturbating with her I-Pad. I thought that was hilarious. A new meaning to social networking.

After that night I got a sore throat,.

Lefeu
01-30-16, 18:32
Just to clarify a bit, Kojax, Hot Spot and Plan B are all part of the same "group," which means they basically have the same owner. The standard BF at each place is 2,600, which, with three lady drinks, can be negotiated to Php2,000 quite easily. The rest is up to you and the girls most of whom, in my experience, are willing to go long time. All of the chief mama sans, Emmy at Kojax, Raffi at Hot Spot and Vanessa at Plan B know each other well and they're friends. So in a sense, getting to know one of them, and then mentioning that friendship to any of the others will work fine. I believe these are by far the best bars on the street, but of course that's just my opinion.

GE.I was quoted 2,900 at Kojax and Plan be early this month. Is the BF based on the customer's face? Or maybe prices have gone up this year.

Member #4698
01-30-16, 19:20
One of my regular Makati girls works in Plan Bee so I have been to this bar on numerous occasions in the past 2 years and I am on friendly terms with Vanessa (the mamasan). The barfine used to be 2600 p, but was recently hiked up to 2900 p. My Plan Bee girl and I have done occasional overnights, but we both prefer extended friendly ST of 4 or 5 hours duration which includes drinking, dinner, sex, and spooning in bed while watching movies on cable. As with my other 2 favorite Burgos bar girls from Bottoms, my Plan Bee girl comes straight to my hotel at least half the time we hook up thus eliminating the barfine. But I still like to meet up in the bar occasionally, to fool around and have a few Tequilas. When I go to Plan Bee to see her I usually end up ordering 2 rounds of Tequila while we sit and watch the girls, talk, and get warmed up. Eventually Vanessa comes over to say Hi and I offer her a Tequila too. Vanessa in turn always offers me a 3rd Tequila on the house and to keep things even, I order a 3rd Tequila for my girl. When the drinks arrive I make a toast and the three of us throw them back as fast as they came. By this time we have drunk enough and I ask for the bill.

So here is the bottom line: Barfine 2900 p (was 2600 p up until March 2015). The 3 Tequilas for my girl are ALWAYS removed from the tab. Vanessa's Tequila is on the tab and she gets a commission for that drink. 2 of my 3 Tequila's are on the bill. My 3rd Tequila shot is on the house and is never put on the bill. The final tab is 2900 p + 290 p (Vanessa's Tequila) + my 2 Tequilas.

I like Plan Bee and I plan to check out Kojax the next time I am in Makati based on all the positive reviews I keep reading. At present I like Bottoms better than Plan Bee however by a long shot. There are 2 reasons: 1. My two Bottoms girls ARE HOT and super friendly. Together and alone they were my #1 & #2 highlights of my Sept / October trip. And prior to my meeting the two of them, I had the pleasure of another top quality Bottoms girl in 2013 and 2014. I lost contact with her and she is apparently on hiatus and is no longer available. (So Sad. LOL.) I don't wish to slight my darling Plan Bee girl, but she is just not in the same league as those 3 Bottoms girls. 2. I like the ambiance in Bottoms a lot more. What goes on and is encouraged to go on in the sideline booths in Bottoms is pretty amazing and wild even for a seasoned warrior like myself. For that reason Bottoms and Crazy House of Soi Cowboy in BKK are my two favorite bars in Asia. Both bars have a quality lineup of super friendly girls AND both bars are hands on honky tonks where things can get very wild. To be clear, I like Plan Bee a lot and I am sure I will like Kojax too, but Plan Bee did not have quite the same level of quality and was not near as randy (wild) over the last 3 years I have be frequenting both establishments. I was last in Makati in October, 2015. YMMV and everyone's tastes are different. This is my experience.

Korkavado
01-30-16, 21:48
Yikes, Kork, be careful. Is this the same thing as shabu?.Hi DCups,

Thanks for that. Something I will not be trying again. It was just a crazy day. However I did make note that one of the upper class girls indulges in prescription drugs similar to Valium. She said her and friends take small amounts when they go out to party. Probably cheaper than buying drinks to get drunk. And easy to get here, you can just use the same prescription over and over, and they will give more than the prescription calls for.

Stay safe.

Pcpc1688
01-30-16, 22:02
One of my regular Makati girls works in Plan Bee so I have been to this bar on numerous occasions in the past 2 years and I am on friendly terms with Vanessa (the mamasan). The barfine used to be 2600 p, but was recently hiked up to 2900 p. My Plan Bee girl and I have done occasional overnights, but we both prefer extended friendly ST of 4 or 5 hours duration which includes drinking, dinner, sex, and spooning in bed while watching movies on cable. As with my other 2 favorite Burgos bar girls from Bottoms, my Plan Bee girl comes straight to my hotel at least half the time we hook up thus eliminating the barfine. But I still like to meet up in the bar occasionally, to fool around and have a few Tequilas. When I go to Plan Bee to see her I usually end up ordering 2 rounds of Tequila while we sit and watch the girls, talk, and get warmed up. Eventually Vanessa comes over to say Hi and I offer her a Tequila too. Vanessa in turn always offers me a 3rd Tequila on the house and to keep things even, I order a 3rd Tequila for my girl. When the drinks arrive I make a toast and the three of us throw them back as fast as they came. By this time we have drunk enough and I ask for the bill.

So here is the bottom line: Barfine 2900 p (was 2600 p up until March 2015). The 3 Tequilas for my girl are ALWAYS removed from the tab. Vanessa's Tequila is on the tab and she gets a commission for that drink. 2 of my 3 Tequila's are on the bill. My 3rd Tequila shot is on the house and is never put on the bill. The final tab is 2900 p + 290 p (Vanessa's Tequila) + my 2 Tequilas.

I like Plan Bee and I plan to check out Kojax the next time I am in Makati based on all the positive reviews I keep reading. At present I like Bottoms better than Plan Bee however by a long shot. There are 2 reasons: 1. My two Bottoms girls ARE HOT and super friendly. Together and alone they were my #1 & #2 highlights of my Sept / October trip. And prior to my meeting the two of them, I had the pleasure of another top quality Bottoms girl in 2013 and 2014. I lost contact with her and she is apparently on hiatus and is no longer available. (So Sad. LOL.) I don't wish to slight my darling Plan Bee girl, but she is just not in the same league as those 3 Bottoms girls. 2. I like the ambiance in Bottoms a lot more. What goes on and is encouraged to go on in the sideline booths in Bottoms is pretty amazing and wild even for a seasoned warrior like myself. For that reason Bottoms and Crazy House of Soi Cowboy in BKK are my two favorite bars in Asia. Both bars have a quality lineup of super friendly girls AND both bars are hands on honky tonks where things can get very wild. To be clear, I like Plan Bee a lot and I am sure I will like Kojax too, but Plan Bee did not have quite the same level of quality and was not near as randy (wild) over the last 3 years I have be frequenting both establishments. I was last in Makati in October, 2015. YMMV and everyone's tastes are different. This is my experience.You in Manila now Natty? Let me know as I arrive Monday night for few days. Maybe I can be your left wingman LOL.

PC out.

Blanquiceleste
01-31-16, 05:34
I like Plan Bee and I plan to check out Kojax the next time I am in Makati based on all the positive reviews I keep reading.

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To be clear, I like Plan Bee a lot and I am sure I will like Kojax too, Hey NB, I would encourage you to visit Kojax but liking PlanB is no reason to automatically like Kojax.

For starters Kojax is a bit more spread out in comparison to PlanB. They have a central square area for the girls to strut their stuff while there are booths lining the 4 sides of the bar, with quite a bit of space in between the dancing square and the booths. And it is a lot quieter than PlanB and definitely nowhere as wild as Bottoms. If you are seated in the right booths you can enjoy a decent bit of privacy but I think there is more fun to engage openly in debauchery inside the bar. The hotel room affords all the privacy I need later. From the name KOJAX I gather than the bar is favored more by KOreans and JApanese. When I was there in Dec 2015 I was an odd man out but the mamasan and the waitresses were all very friendly.

The girls were absolutely gorgeous. Plenty of incredibly cute 18 - 22 yo begging to be taken. I can't wait to get back in May.

GoodEnough
01-31-16, 09:36
I was quoted 2,900 at Kojax and Plan be early this month. Is the BF based on the customer's face? Or maybe prices have gone up this year.I was there last week, and for me at least, the BF had not changed. Also this discussion has omitted any mention of String. Though the quality there varies, there are tiimes when it has a great lineup, as it did, for example, on Friday night. The BF there as quoted to me, was Php3,000. Strange too that no one has mentioned Hot Spot, the bar below Kojax. It's significantly smaller than Plan be and Kojax, but at to, Es has so, e very pretty women. Again, last week the BF was 2,600 reduced by Php200 for each of up to 3 ladies drinks.

Contrary to some posters I dislike Bottoms because of the endless hustle to which I'm always subjected there. Also, I think that the Php3,900 bar fine, for what are, at best, quite average girls, is inane. But of course, different strokes and all that. I also sometimes enjoy Moulin Rouge, though less for the girls than for the music, which is less modern noise and more old time rock and roll.

GE.

IllusionHeart
01-31-16, 10:14
Strange too that no one has mentioned Hot Spot, the bar below Kojax. It's significantly smaller than Plan be and Kojax, but at to, Es has so, e very pretty women.

GE.GE, we did frequent Hotspot. Actually the girl Blanqui bfined from Plan be took us there letting us know that it was a sister joint. There were approx 10 to 12 girls on stage, I liked one but she was on her mens. The bar was literally empty with barely 2 or 3 customers inside but all girls on stage. Average crowd but then I am too finicky and picky about girls. Other FM might find their gem there.

IMHO if one has already been to Bottoms up or Plan be or Kojax earlier in the evening then Hotspot might feel like a slow or dead bar. Nonetheless it is worth a visit. You never know where you might find the girl of the night. At least I believe in this and get into all bars I can without any prejudice.

Hell we even went to Stardust basis of reports and it turned out to be a waste of time and money with barely 3 or 4 girls on stage. Totally sucked but then we did go there and check out.

Manny51
01-31-16, 11:37
Hey NB, I would encourage you to visit Kojax but liking PlanB is no reason to automatically like Kojax.

For starters Kojax is a bit more spread out in comparison to PlanB. They have a central square area for the girls to strut their stuff while there are booths lining the 4 sides of the bar, with quite a bit of space in between the dancing square and the booths. And it is a lot quieter than PlanB and definitely nowhere as wild as Bottoms. If you are seated in the right booths you can enjoy a decent bit of privacy but I think there is more fun to engage openly in debauchery inside the bar. The hotel room affords all the privacy I need later. From the name KOJAX I gather than the bar is favored more by KOreans and JApanese. When I was there in Dec 2015 I was an odd man out but the mamasan and the waitresses were all very friendly.

The girls were absolutely gorgeous. Plenty of incredibly cute 18 - 22 yo begging to be taken. I can't wait to get back in May.Yeah, the layout at Kojax is interesting. The square stage with he seats around it reminded me of a boxing ring. Very simple, but effective. Sit anywhere and you have a good view of the stage.

Member #4698
01-31-16, 18:58
Contrary to some posters I dislike Bottoms because of the endless hustle to which I'm always subjected there. Also, I think that the Php3,900 bar fine, for what are, at best, quite average girls, is inane. But of course, different strokes and all that. On any night that the top 10% are not in attendance, the quality will be quite average or sub par. Tastes vary, but if you like "wholesome lookers" with killer tight bods that you can take anywhere, then I assure you Bottoms has 3 or 4 girls of that high quality. Could be you just came at the wrong time or on the wrong night. The same thing happens at Crazy House in BKK. One night the stars are there and the selection is great. Another night the top 10% are no shows and the quality is blah.

On the hustle thing; I find Bottoms girls are not a problem and they will usually wait by their table until I ask them over, but once things get going with a girl and myself, everyone else is looking for a tip. I usually buy the mamasan and the best girlfriend 1 drink each and I also tip the waitress my spare pesos. I have not noticed much difference between the hustle in PlanB, the recently deceased Stardust, and Bottoms. They all want tips. The bar to go to and just drink a beer is Rogues, IMHO. After you let a few of their girls know you are not looking at the present time, they let you alone.

GetsZa
02-01-16, 11:46
Hi just wondering if the girls at the bar in p burgos street offers GFE like french kissing and DATY. I know ymmv but just wondering the experience from you guys. I went to pegasus near quezon city and no kissing and DATY however the girl say she might do it on my 2nd visit. Then again pegasus is much cheaper at around 3000 pesos all in. Compare to bars at burgos st. Also any intel on edsa on whether the girls offer GFE. For me if there is not DFK. It doesn't cut it and I rather go to Korea or China with good quality girls and a little more pricier like 10 to 20 usd more. Thanks.

Pinaypounder
02-01-16, 20:45
I know the majority of our group treats women properly and when one of us doesn't then we correct and guide him.

There is this man name Les Simmons an American from California, tell the girls he is a Doctor, but his skype says Business Consultant. It seems many men tell the women here they are Doctors, no need to impress the girls with your lies there "2 week millionaires".

Anyways this "Doctor" wheels into Manila, prior to creates an online romance with a girl from Mindinao, they are "BF and GF" (she is quite taken with him stupid girl) he flies her up from Mindinao into Manila, then fucks off to "BKK" leaves the girl hanging, returns, spends a couple of nights with her then literally orders her out of the Hotel Room and give her SWEET FUCK ALL.

Now the girl is stuck in manila with nothing. ASSHOLE you need to at least give the girl some money to eat and to get home!

Classless fuck. Be on the lookout for this prick! I know the Hotel he is in if anyone wants to help Karma, I will be there soon to take care of that personally.

AGAIN BE UPRONT BE HONEST FUCK THEM ALL BUT don't lie cheat and steal and take care of them, treat them PROPER!

PP.

FreebieFan
02-02-16, 01:53
I know the majority of our group treats women properly and when one of us doesn't then we correct and guide him.

There is this man name Les Simmons an American from California, tell the girls he is a Doctor, but his skype says Business Consultant. It seems many men tell the women here they are Doctors, no need to impress the girls with your lies there "2 week millionaires".

Anyways this "Doctor" wheels into Manila, prior to creates an online romance with a girl from Mindinao, they are "BF and GF" (she is quite taken with him stupid girl) he flies her up from Mindinao into Manila, then fucks off to "BKK" leaves the girl hanging, returns, spends a couple of nights with her then literally orders her out of the Hotel Room and give her SWEET FUCK ALL.

Now the girl is stuck in manila with nothing. ASSHOLE you need to at least give the girl some money to eat and to get home!

Classless fuck. Be on the lookout for this prick! I know the Hotel he is in if anyone wants to help Karma, I will be there soon to take care of that personally.

AGAIN BE UPRONT BE HONEST FUCK THEM ALL BUT don't lie cheat and steal and take care of them, treat them PROPER!

PP.Or at least, that's the story that she told you. Remember that Filipinas and the truth have a relationship that's somewhat tenuous at times. But I'm sure you know that.

WestCoast1
02-02-16, 03:04
Now the girl is stuck in manila with nothing. ASSHOLE you need to at least give the girl some money to eat and to get home!
PP: You got this information where?

BrainDrain
02-02-16, 04:06
I know the majority of our group treats women properly and when one of us doesn't then we correct and guide him.

There is this man name Les Simmons an American from California, tell the girls he is a Doctor, but his skype says Business Consultant. It seems many men tell the women here they are Doctors, no need to impress the girls with your lies there "2 week millionaires".PinayPounder has been a long time contributor of the Philippines forum so I give him some credit for fact checking on this story. The bit that resonates with me on this story is how many times the girls really do trust us to do as we say. Having flown girls to places internationally and islands domestically I know they are trusting. I've had girls meet me sight unknown at the airport where they have had to spend their own money on the promise I will repay them.

Of course, I have always kept my commitment. Unfortunately I'm not surprised that there are low life people that do as PinayPounder has told us. I'm sure it goes on.

BD.

WestCoast1
02-02-16, 05:10
PinayPounder has been a long time contributor of the Philippines forum so I give him some credit for fact checking on this story. I tend to agree. But the question will become: What source? Ie, newspaper article (fact-checked)? Or, something a girl said?


Unfortunately I'm not surprised that there are low life people that do as PinayPounder has told us. I'm sure it goes on.
BD. Unfortunately.

Dg8787
02-02-16, 06:56
I know the majority of our group treats women properly and when one of us doesn't then we correct and guide him.

There is this man name Les Simmons an American from California, tell the girls he is a Doctor, but his skype says Business Consultant. It seems many men tell the women here they are Doctors, no need to impress the girls with your lies there "2 week millionaires".

Anyways this "Doctor" wheels into Manila, prior to creates an online romance with a girl from Mindinao, they are "BF and GF" (she is quite taken with him stupid girl) he flies her up from Mindinao into Manila, then fucks off to "BKK" leaves the girl hanging, returns, spends a couple of nights with her then literally orders her out of the Hotel Room and give her SWEET FUCK ALL.

Now the girl is stuck in manila with nothing. ASSHOLE you need to at least give the girl some money to eat and to get home!

Classless fuck. Be on the lookout for this prick! I know the Hotel he is in if anyone wants to help Karma, I will be there soon to take care of that personally.

AGAIN BE UPRONT BE HONEST FUCK THEM ALL BUT don't lie cheat and steal and take care of them, treat them PROPER!

PP.Do you have more info on this Les Simmons like age, race and where in California.

I trust you have verified the stories and the facts. It it possible for the girl to file a police complaint?

Pinaypounder
02-02-16, 21:45
Hi All.

Thanks for the concerns here is where I got my facts:

I have talked to the man on Skype, he is a tall blond guy from California, about 54, I believe.

The girl he fucked over is a long time good friend of my GF. All knowledge is 100% first hand. I would never put forth such things based on 2nd hand knowledge!

I plan to engage him personally when I arrive. He is staying in a shit hotel in Malate. I am A Canadian Hockey Player, we like to punch things!

PP.

Pinaypounder
02-02-16, 21:51
Do you have more info on this Les Simmons like age, race and where in California.

I trust you have verified the stories and the facts. It it possible for the girl to file a police complaint?As just stated all data is first hand. What police complaint could she file?

Sadly the girl still waits for him so at this point I am not sure she could but I am sure the cops would ruin this pricks day.

The girl is a nurse to (sad reflection on intelligence both my GF and I have tried to convince her to go home).

I know this happens to much!

PP.

BrainDrain
02-02-16, 21:58
Thinking about PinayPounder's friend, it is an interesting thought that so much of what we do is based on trust. We trust the bargirl in our room is not going ot cut off our dick, while we trust that we will pay her.

In the forum, there are many posts of advice, do not pay up front etc etc and we encourage people to go away from paying girls up front.

It's a hard one for the girls whom take on the travel.

But, we all have to pay and with incidences like this, it makes it all a little harder for us.

BD.

Pinaypounder
02-02-16, 22:08
Thinking about PinayPounder's friend, it is an interesting thought that so much of what we do is based on trust. We trust the bargirl in our room is not going ot cut off our dick, while we trust that we will pay her.

In the forum, there are many posts of advice, do not pay up front etc etc and we encourage people to go away from paying girls up front.

It's a hard one for the girls whom take on the travel.

But, we all have to pay and with incidences like this, it makes it all a little harder for us.

BD.Its not a problem for the honourable. But the real cunts let the girls think they are in love, so they don't have to pay per night. Easy way to save some pesos. In actuality I think I spend more with my GF than if I fucked a different one each night but that is my choice.

For some of us we are enamoured with the fact a young sexxy women will actually willingly fuck us but even for my GF last teip I paid for the nights she had to hire someone to do her job with while she was with me.

Time is Money.

PP.

LexLuther
02-03-16, 04:10
I need to know if any of you guys have met with Shane from Azalea Spa in the last couple of days.

Here is the URL in case you may have forgotten the name of your provider or what she looks like:

www.azaleaspa.webs.com

Please reply here or PM me.

Thanks.

LexLuther.

Free2
02-03-16, 20:59
I plan to engage him personally when I arrive. He is staying in a shit hotel in Malate. I am A Canadian Hockey Player, we like to punch things!

PP.You are going from Pinaypounder to Americanpounder? (in the face?) .

MrWoolyBooly
02-04-16, 02:28
I am A Canadian Hockey Player, we like to punch things!
I'm imagining a pale-skinned Hulk gliding on the rink at MOA with his dainty dark-tanned Pinay lady wobbling on her skates by his side! May you enjoy good health and happiness always!

Pcpc1688
02-04-16, 06:37
Stopped by I Spa in Metrowalk and got Ashley. Very nice young gal with natural be-see cups. No massage, straight to fucking after ok BBBJ. 900 p at door 1. 5 k Peso for Ashley.

PC out.

Red Kilt
02-04-16, 10:41
Stopped by I Spa in Metrowalk and got Ashley. Very nice young gal with natural be-see cups. No massage, straight to fucking after ok BBBJ. 900 p at door 1. 5 k Peso for Ashley.
I am a regular at I Spa (I live nearby) and I have written about it here several times, but I have been told many times by different girls that FS is not allowed.

The I Spa special is 900 php and it includes a back massage and a HJ after flip with no need to negotiate. It is part of the package.

I agree that Ashley is pleasant and I have had her a few times for massage and HJ, but her willing to go from zero to sex immediately in the room with no massage and not knowing who you were is very, very surprising to me given my previous experience.

I was told by management that FS is definitely NOT allowed and girls will be fired if they do it. I figured previously that if you built up a "relationship" with a masseuse you might get a bit more than just a HJ, and I don't see any reason why girls would not offer me everything if it's available (I am not exactly repulsive).

More details please PC. Did you go straight for the jugular when you got into the room? I am very surprised by your report. If it went down as you said then I have been missing out, and I will try it next time.

D Cups
02-04-16, 16:46
Maybe PCP is a stud and she likes him.


I am a regular at I Spa (I live nearby) and I have written about it here several times, but I have been told many times by different girls that FS is not allowed.

The I Spa special is 900 php and it includes a back massage and a HJ after flip with no need to negotiate. It is part of the package.

I agree that Ashley is pleasant and I have had her a few times for massage and HJ, but her willing to go from zero to sex immediately in the room with no massage and not knowing who you were is very, very surprising to me given my previous experience.

I was told by management that FS is definitely NOT allowed and girls will be fired if they do it. I figured previously that if you built up a "relationship" with a masseuse you might get a bit more than just a HJ, and I don't see any reason why girls would not offer me everything if it's available (I am not exactly repulsive).

More details please PC. Did you go straight for the jugular when you got into the room? I am very surprised by your report. If it went down as you said then I have been missing out, and I will try it next time..

CodeX
02-04-16, 19:42
I have extended my trip and will visit Manilla for 2 days.

Are there any websites or places where I can find models for art-nude photography?

David Oxford
02-05-16, 03:28
I tried to book a nuru massage from Backpage last night and I found Nuru Massage Manila, at first I am hesitant if they are just a scammer because there's a lot of scammer / spammer at backpage so beware of that.

I went to their website to take a look at their girls, oh men! Most of their girls are very hot! They have a very good website and a chat support. I ordered a girl named Candice, over all she's 9/10! Very pretty. Professional and looks like a hot model!

She's a girlfriend type of girl, for sure I will book her for whole night! Hahaha!

By the way.

I paid only $70 for 1.5 hours. I recommend booking on their website, waiting time is very fast only 30 mins from the time I booked.

Very professional. Also thanks to their beautiful chat operator named Samantha!

www.nurumassage.ph

Wicked Roger
02-05-16, 06:13
I tried to book a nuru massage from Backpage last night and I found Nuru Massage Manila, at first I am hesitant if they are just a scammer because there's a lot of scammer / spammer at backpage so beware of that.

I went to their website to take a look at their girls, oh men! Most of their girls are very hot! They have a very good website and a chat support. I ordered a girl named Candice, over all she's 9/10! Very pretty. Professional and looks like a hot model!

She's a girlfriend type of girl, for sure I will book her for whole night! Hahaha!

By the way.

I paid only $70 for 1.5 hours. I recommend booking on their website, waiting time is very fast only 30 mins from the time I booked.

Very professional. Also thanks to their beautiful chat operator named Samantha!!Call me an old cynic and doubter (many do worse than that LOL) but this really sounds like an advert for the place.

DOxford. Can you post the link to the web page plus some pics of the super hot model, 9/10 cutes please. I don't mean photo shopped one from the web page, I mean those you took personally which is the style of 99% of those posted o the Photo Gallery.

Which part of Manila is this place located.

Maybe am old in the tooth and read this FR wrong from a first time poster.

Pcpc1688
02-05-16, 08:51
Maybe PCP is a stud and she likes him.

.True on both accounts sir.

I've know her for about a year now.

RK, first visit was massage only with HJ then I asked her for take out. She agreed and came over too place I stayed near Burgos. Fucked her good then and she came multiple times she said and the wet pussy confirmed it I presume. Gave her 2. 5 k and an Uber back to Pasig. Subsequent visits to I spa she would just come and disrobe and I'd BBFS her CIP on the table. The girl has a bangin Phils body. You all know what kind LOL.

So whenever I go back to ISpa it's 900 door and 1. 5 for Ashley. She hasn't complained about it yet. Anyway next is her younger sister hehe, maybe tonight?

PC the Stud Out although I'm a galaxy away from the Skoggy man who is my hero.

Pcpc1688
02-05-16, 08:55
Let's keep info here I don't want her to get canned cause someone said blah blah please.

She is a nice girl.

PC out.

Red Kilt
02-05-16, 10:43
Let's keep info here I don't want her to get canned cause someone said blah blah please.

She is a nice girl.

PC out.Your info is safe with me but remember PC; it's an open board so who knows what sort of message will get back to Ashley. It's always a risk to identify names on boards like this, especially if the ISpa doesn't like girls offering extras or even doing take-outs.

You have confirmed their operating model anyway (in case anybody thinks it's FS all the way at I Spa). It isn't.

PC clearly initially didn't tell the whole story when he made it seem like 5 minutes after arrival full sex was on. If he had mentioned how he had built a relationship first then I would have not needed to "challenge" him on the story.

Pcpc1688
02-05-16, 15:36
Your info is safe with me but remember PC; it's an open board so who knows what sort of message will get back to Ashley. It's always a risk to identify names on boards like this, especially if the ISpa doesn't like girls offering extras or even doing take-outs.

You have confirmed their operating model anyway (in case anybody thinks it's FS all the way at I Spa). It isn't.

PC clearly initially didn't tell the whole story when he made it seem like 5 minutes after arrival full sex was on. If he had mentioned how he had built a relationship first then I would have not needed to "challenge" him on the story.Ymmv there and it's not FS at all with many of the girls there. I was lucky.

Any info on Shogun Spa RK?

PC out.

David Oxford
02-05-16, 17:52
Call me an old cynic and doubter (many do worse than that LOL) but this really sounds like an advert for the place.

DOxford. Can you post the link to the web page plus some pics of the super hot model, 9/10 cutes please. I don't mean photo shopped one from the web page, I mean those you took personally which is the style of 99% of those posted o the Photo Gallery.

Which part of Manila is this place located.

Maybe am old in the tooth and read this FR wrong from a first time poster.They do out-call service to hotels.

NewImage
02-06-16, 23:46
Huy guys. Going to Manila soon. Staying close to MOA. Quick questions.

EDSA = barfine 2000 + 2-3000 girl accurate yes / no?

Am in walking distance to EDSA. Safe to walk at night or taxi better?

Will report back after hol. In March.

Any recent relevant info appreciated.

And I have done a search and RTFF.

Cheers.

X Man
02-07-16, 01:12
I've walked around this area at night without any problems. Nevertheless, common sense precautions should be taken. Walk swiftly and with purpose. Don't get sloppy drunk.

I'd like to hear about what accommodations you've arranged. Maybe airbnb? The last time I stayed there I was at Copacabana Hotel which is across the street. I enjoyed the very large rooms, but the bed was terribly noisy during play.


Huy guys. Going to Manila soon. Staying close to MOA. Quick questions.

EDSA = barfine 2000 + 2-3000 girl accurate yes / no?

Am in walking distance to EDSA. Safe to walk at night or taxi better?

Will report back after hol. In March.

Any recent relevant info appreciated.

And I have done a search and RTFF.

Cheers.

Manfield04
02-07-16, 06:28
I visited their website. They have given phone numbers only, no address as they do outcall service.


Which part of Manila is this place located.

NewImage
02-07-16, 10:01
I've walked around this area at night without any problems. Nevertheless, common sense precautions should be taken. Walk swiftly and with purpose. Don't get sloppy drunk.

I'd like to hear about what accommodations you've arranged. Maybe airbnb? The last time I stayed there I was at Copacabana Hotel which is across the street. I enjoyed the very large rooms, but the bed was terribly noisy during play.Staying at IECASA at Sea Resid $75/ nt- first time used. Booked thru agoda - - close to MOA & EDSA Complex.

Prices please were accurate?

Rick5269
02-08-16, 16:00
Very long time lurker, delinquent contributor here.

I have gleaned all the usual tips from this forum over the better part of a decade. While I disagree some of the Makati-mania and still prefer the prospecting challenges of LA Cafe, I've learned most of what I know from this group. I wanted to make a small contribution in turn.

Yesterday, I headed out to Quiapo to explore. It's a lively area on a Sunday with the big screen church, fortune tellers, and a food market. Don't let people scare you off. The area is very safe during the day. To get there, just ask a taxi to take you to Quiapo Church or take the LRT / MRT to Carriedo station. I went around 2 PM.

My tour didn't result in any mongering completed (mostly due to lack of courage), but I'll be back to finish it off later. My first walk was down Rizal St, heading North from Carriedo Station towards Recto, walking on the east side of the street. If you walk on the footpath proper, you'll eventually see signs for various stripper joints. I went in one along the way that advertised 8 girls. I walked up the stairs, into a completely dark room with faint disco lights flashing. A man clapped his hands (presumably calling the girls) and invited me in for a drink. The darkness of the place made me nervous and, without a wingman, I bailed. Might be interesting.

After that, I turned right at Recto and walked towards the Isetaan plaza. An uninteresting mall, except for the entry steps at the corner of Evangalista & Recto. Here were obvious WG's, locking eyes with me. I wasn't sure what to do, and the one I like shortly vanished. I tried to follow her, but lost her in the crowd. I wanted to investigate further, so returned to the steps. There a mamasan approached me and asked what I wanted. I told her slim, under 30, pretty. She called a girl over that fit the bill perfectly. She told me 3 K for short time. I laughed and told her she was crazy. She quickly dropped to 1 k, the "local rate" - right. It was enough for me, though, so we agreed. She asked where I'd go and said the girl would follow me. I told her the ST hotel just down the Recto the way I had come. For some reason, she didn't like that, and suggested another hotel further up Recto. One of my mongering rules is that I always choose the spot. Beginning to feel this may be a trap, I thanked her and bailed back down Recto. She chased me a bit, but gave up. I was probably worried for nothing, but I have my guidelines out of an abundance of caution and they don't work if you readily drop them.

So, onwards. Went a short distance down Recto and stopped at a bar for an SML. The waitresses here were sexily dressed and cute, but I wasn't sure of the deal, so I left after 2. Needless to say, I was the only foreigner there (in fact possibly the only foreigner in Quiapo!) but enjoyed the 45 PHP beer. Retracing my steps, I went down Recto and left onto Rizal, walking on the west side now, which is much emptier than the east side- a couple of closed bars, some money changers and a grocery store. Before too long, probably midway between Carriedo & Recto, a cute girl caught my eye. Her mamasan quickly diverted my gaze and asked if I wanted her. She began an intense marketing pitch - "she very young!" Another warning phrase. I asked how young and got simply, "very young! She looked to be about 18/19, but I wanted to be sure. I asked if she had ID. She didn't, but the mama insisted the hotel around the corner knew her and would let her in. Again, Admiral Akbar's words entered my head. Getting jumped in the last situation was probably better than having cops called with an underaged girl in this one. I bid adieu and headed to the Carriedo station. (On another note, the new BEEP card, which you buy from a queue-less machine for php100 for about 10 round trips is amazing and a game changer for fast movement in manila.).

Falling back on habit, I took the train 2 stops to United Nations, went to Robinsons / Starbucks, found it empty and off to LA Cafe. Had an amazing session with a girl from Mindinao to close out the weekend at the Robinsons Eurotel. As to Quiapo, though, I shall return.

MrWoolyBooly
02-09-16, 02:48
Yesterday, I headed out to Quiapo to explore.I wandered that same area in Quiapo circa 2008, but wasn't as adventurous as you. Too bad I can't PM you.

Manny51
02-09-16, 04:31
Very long time lurker, delinquent contributor here.

I have gleaned all the usual tips from this forum over the better part of a decade. While I disagree some of the Makati-mania and still prefer the prospecting challenges of LA Cafe, I've learned most of what I know from this group. I wanted to make a small contribution in turn.

Yesterday, I headed out to Quiapo to explore. It's a lively area on a Sunday with the big screen church, fortune tellers, and a food market. Don't let people scare you off. The area is very safe during the day. To get there, just ask a taxi to take you to Quiapo Church or take the LRT / MRT to Carriedo station. I went around 2 PM.

My tour didn't result in any mongering completed (mostly due to lack of courage), but I'll be back to finish it off later. My first walk was down Rizal St, heading North from Carriedo Station towards Recto, walking on the east side of the street. If you walk on the footpath proper, you'll eventually see signs for various stripper joints. I went in one along the way that advertised 8 girls. I walked up the stairs, into a completely dark room with faint disco lights flashing. A man clapped his hands (presumably calling the girls) and invited me in for a drink. The darkness of the place made me nervous and, without a wingman, I bailed. Might be interesting.

After that, I turned right at Recto and walked towards the Isetaan plaza.
Falling back on habit, I took the train 2 stops to United Nations, went to Robinsons / Starbucks, found it empty and off to LA Cafe. Had an amazing session with a girl from Mindinao to close out the weekend at the Robinsons Eurotel. As to Quiapo, though, I shall return.I went walking around Recto St. For reasons unrelated to girls. That area was a dump. Why would you even considering pulling off the street in a place like that?

Soapy Smith
02-09-16, 06:19
I went walking around Recto St. For reasons unrelated to girls. That area was a dump. Why would you even considering pulling off the street in a place like that?There have been a few reports of guys pulling out of this area in the past, using local short time hotels, with no adverse consequences. I have walked the area on a number of occasions myself, including on Easter Sunday. Crowds overflowing out of the Quiapo Church and the adjacent plaza (thousands watching an outside big screen TV broadcast of the services), and then right next door for about two blocks was a succession of shops selling martial arts weapons, survival knives, and camouflage uniforms. Welcome to schizophrenic Philippines. At the time there were some great buys on Philippine crafts in the areas under the raised roadway leading to the Quezon Blvd. Bridge over the Pasig River.

I never felt unsafe, but traveled only during the daytime. I was never tempted to engage any of the p4p merchandise on display because riding the LRT (this is not the MRT, it's LRT 1; there is a difference) three stops to Pedro Gil got me so easily to LA Cafe, where I never had concerns about safety.

WestCoast1
02-09-16, 07:36
I went walking around Recto St. For reasons unrelated to girls. That area was a dump. Why would you even considering pulling off the street in a place like that?'Dump's are some of my fav places for finding some of the beauties you see in the PG.

X Man
02-09-16, 15:26
It's been several years since I borrowed a gal at EDSA. You'll probably have to pay a bit more. Slip them your phone number discreetly.


Staying at IECASA at Sea Resid $75/ nt- first time used. Booked thru agoda - - close to MOA & EDSA Complex.

Prices please were accurate?

Blanquiceleste
02-09-16, 17:20
It's been several years since I borrowed a gal at EDSA. You'll probably have to pay a bit more. Slip them your phone number discreetly.The most common way to do this is for the girl to make a excuse to go to the washroom where she writes down her number on a serviette and comes back and casually places it next to your drink. You pick it up and the game is on. However, I have noticed lately that the mamasans, waitresses and massage ladies are constantly hovering near customers with ahawk eye watching out for such malpractices.

I have even seen a customer slip a strip of paper (05. Cm x 4 cm) with his number printed on it. I bet he must be carrying a dozen strips or so every time he steps out.

NewImage
02-09-16, 22:41
It's been several years since I borrowed a gal at EDSA. You'll probably have to pay a bit more. Slip them your phone number discreetly.Obviously. How much more?

I am a newbie in the Phil's so bear with me?

Am I better going to Burgos or LA Cafe. I am only here for a few days and the plan was to stay close to the airport and stay out of the traffic. Just grabbing a local hassle free bite to eat you could say!

Manny51
02-10-16, 00:48
There have been a few reports of guys pulling out of this area in the past, using local short time hotels, with no adverse consequences. I have walked the area on a number of occasions myself, including on Easter Sunday. Crowds overflowing out of the Quiapo Church and the adjacent plaza (thousands watching an outside big screen TV broadcast of the services), and then right next door for about two blocks was a succession of shops selling martial arts weapons, survival knives, and camouflage uniforms. Welcome to schizophrenic Philippines. At the time there were some great buys on Philippine crafts in the areas under the raised roadway leading to the Quezon Blvd. Bridge over the Pasig River.

I never felt unsafe, but traveled only during the daytime. I was never tempted to engage any of the p4p merchandise on display because riding the LRT (this is not the MRT, it's LRT 1; there is a difference) three stops to Pedro Gil got me so easily to LA Cafe, where I never had concerns about safety.I didn't mean to imply that the Recto area is not safe. Actually, there are several universities in the area. This is where real people live and work.

It just doesn't look like a punting destination to me. Its too "real. " Its a dirty, bustling working class area. Not a nightlife area.

Member #4698
02-10-16, 01:23
I am a newbie in the Phil's so bear with me? Am I better going to Burgos or LA Cafe. For the sake of this discussion, let's assume that the GFE is readily available in all three locations so it is merely a question of looks and how much you are willing to pay for it. Burgos Bar girls will run from 4000 p (Rogues) to 7000 p (Bottoms) all in (barfine, service fee, and lady drinks) and there are some very good looking girls here. EDSA Complex Bar Girls will run around 5000p and you will find some lookers here too early. La Cafe FL's will ask around 2000 p to 3000 p not counting her drinks, but I don't much like the quality of LA Cafe girls, although I do enjoy its honky tonk ambiance once in a while and you might find a rare gem there. Thus I am primarily a Burgos and EDSA Entertainment Complex punter. What kind of punter are you? What kind of girl are you looking for? Since you are planning to stay in Manila for a few nights, this will be an excellent opportunity to find out. I suggest you spend a night on Burgos, a night at the EDSA Complex, and a night at LA Cafe. You will have a blast. If you are not into travelling around that much then just check out EDSA and LA Cafe. Keep in mind that many Burgos Bars are still very interesting between midnight and 1am, so if you don't like what you find elsewhere, it is not too late to taxi over to Makati. It is not a long trip at that hour. Vice a versa, LA Cafe is open 24 hours a day. LOL. Good luck hunting!

Soapy Smith
02-10-16, 07:17
Actually, there are several universities in the area. This is where real people live and work.

It just doesn't look like a punting destination to me. Its too "real. " Its a dirty, bustling working class area. Not a nightlife area.I can't say which area Rick was referring to, but the area I had in mind is a little west of the university district. It is the area bounded on the south by the LRT 1 station at Carriedo, on the north by the Doroteo Jose station, on the east by LRT 2 Recto station, and on the west roughly by T. Mapua.

Ploughman
02-10-16, 08:25
Very long time lurker, delinquent contributor here.

I have gleaned all the usual tips from this forum over the better part of a decade. I did a long report on Quiapo several years ago on a basis similar to this. I had other reasons for being around there. Sometimes you can find interesting collectibles at the anything-of-value places or make a small purchase at the wholesale eyeglasses mart or maybe look at the videos on Hidalgo St. Cheaper prices for everything than Malate.

As for clubs, the ones I went into ranged from passable to roach-infested (and that's not understating it), and they'd pat you down and take cellphones at the door. You'd also attract too much attention and wanting to buy lady drinks as a foreigner, but if you didn't sit near the stage they'd eventually back off. The Harem I remember to be decorated like a San Francisco place circa 1969. Girls seemed shy. There was some kind of short-time deal but it didn't compare favorably price-wise. Another place along Quezon Ave. Was larger but decent.

So basically I concur that the area has potential and certainly more than its share of ST hotels. OTOH, seems very hit-and-miss and likely intimidating at night just due to inadequate lighting in places and a different mix of people.

Manny51
02-10-16, 15:21
I can't say which area Rick was referring to, but the area I had in mind is a little west of the university district. It is the area bounded on the south by the LRT 1 station at Carriedo, on the north by the Doroteo Jose station, on the east by LRT 2 Recto station, and on the west roughly by T. Mapua.I got off the LRT station, walked toward Recto, then took a right on Recto. There are a lot of bookstores in hawkers selling used textbooks in that area. Its a very dusty, working class area.

To give you an idea, it looked like the area where they filmed Bourne Legacy. I don't know if it actually was, but it sure looked like it. Dirty. Grimy. With the elevated tracks overhead.

Hutsori
02-10-16, 16:22
I got off the LRT station, walked toward Recto, then took a right on Recto. There are a lot of bookstores in hawkers selling used textbooks in that area. Its a very dusty, working class area.

To give you an idea, it looked like the area where they filmed Bourne Legacy. I don't know if it actually was, but it sure looked like it. Dirty. Grimy. With the elevated tracks overhead.Yes, that's the area. There are two LRT stations in the area, LRT2 Recto and LRT1 Doroteo Jose. You'll see Far Eastern University across the street from Recto station. Just look for all the girls in their green plaid skirts. UST is a short walk away. If you find the pavement too bustling with people and uneven to walk safely, in this area a good place to trawl is inside the Isetann Department Store. It rarely gets any foreign customers, and the shop girls are quite attractive. You can get calling cards made in the area at one of the many print shops, and these make it easy to hand to a girl. Also in this area are where all the fake documents are made.

Soapy Smith
02-10-16, 16:44
To give you an idea, it looked like the area where they filmed Bourne Legacy. I don't know if it actually was, but it sure looked like it. Dirty. Grimy. With the elevated tracks overhead.The street scenes in Bourne Legacy--getting a hotel room, buying medicine, rooftop chase--were filmed along San Andres in Malate, just south of Remedios Circle, and the narrow alley rescue of Rachel Weisz was at a set they built in an empty lot at Remedios Circle. Motorcycle chase scenes were filmed under LRT 2 along Magsaysay Boulevard, the overhead walkway (knocking the woman's oranges out of her bag and jumping down onto a bus) and high overhead scaffolding scenes were at Taft and EDSA, the fruit market crash was in a public market in Marikina, and the final sliding motorcycle crash was in the fish port complex in Navotas.

How's that for meaningless trivia? The San Andres area is actually a notch better than the area I described near Carriedo Station but possibly similar to the university section you described.

I think H pretty much just told us how it's done in the Quiapo area.

Manny51
02-10-16, 19:53
The street scenes in Bourne Legacy--getting a hotel room, buying medicine, rooftop chase--were filmed along San Andres in Malate, just south of Remedios Circle, and the narrow alley rescue of Rachel Weisz was at a set they built in an empty lot at Remedios Circle. Motorcycle chase scenes were filmed under LRT 2 along Magsaysay Boulevard, the overhead walkway (knocking the woman's oranges out of her bag and jumping down onto a bus) and high overhead scaffolding scenes were at Taft and EDSA, the fruit market crash was in a public market in Marikina, and the final sliding motorcycle crash was in the fish port complex in Navotas.

How's that for meaningless trivia? The San Andres area is actually a notch better than the area I described near Carriedo Station but possibly similar to the university section you described.

I think H pretty much just told us how it's done in the Quiapo area.Cool! Thanks for the post!

I wanted to see some of the areas of filming when I was there (a fun thing I like to do when traveling when possible), but I couldn't find much except to say that some scenes were filmed in Malate. But when I walked Recto, I was satisfied that I had seen the "real" Manila and didn't pursue it further.

Perchie15
02-14-16, 05:47
Reading the last few posts about Philippines. I know it's about retiring but seems like Thai is better then Manila maybe this will change my thoughts about going to Manila haha Thai would be cool I think to I was choosing between the 2. Thanks guys LOL. But possibly still go to Manila. It be my first time still doing some research as of right now. I have paid ISG account so it's OK. I just won't stay out very late when I'm there as it seems to be quite dangerous for foreigners anyways and food being crap? Well thank you all.

Free2
02-15-16, 03:47
My first walk was down Rizal St, heading North from Carriedo Station towards Recto, walking on the east side of the street. If you walk on the footpath proper, you'll eventually see signs for various stripper joints. I went in one along the way that advertised 8 girls. I walked up the stairs, into a completely dark room with faint disco lights flashing. A man clapped his hands (presumably calling the girls) and invited me in for a drink. The darkness of the place made me nervous and, without a wingman, I bailed. Might be interesting.

After that, I turned right at Recto and walked towards the Isetaan plaza. An uninteresting mall, except for the entry steps at the corner of Evangalista & Recto. Here were obvious WG's, locking eyes with me. I wasn't sure what to do, and the one I like shortly vanished. I tried to follow her, but lost her in the crowd. I wanted to investigate further, so returned to the steps. There a mamasan approached me and asked what I wanted. I told her slim, under 30, pretty. She called a girl over that fit the bill perfectly. She told me 3 K for short time. I laughed and told her she was crazy. She quickly dropped to 1 k, the "local rate" - right. It was enough for me, though, so we agreed. She asked where I'd go and said the girl would follow me. I told her the ST hotel just down the Recto the way I had come. For some reason, she didn't like that, and suggested another hotel further up Recto. One of my mongering rules is that I always choose the spot. Beginning to feel this may be a trap, I thanked her and bailed back down Recto. She chased me a bit, but gave up. I was probably worried for nothing, but I have my guidelines out of an abundance of caution and they don't work if you readily drop them.

So, onwards. Went a short distance down Recto and stopped at a bar for an SML. The waitresses here were sexily dressed and cute, but I wasn't sure of the deal, so I left after 2. Needless to say, I was the only foreigner there (in fact possibly the only foreigner in Quiapo!) but enjoyed the 45 PHP beer. Retracing my steps, I went down Recto and left onto Rizal, walking on the west side now, which is much emptier than the east side- a couple of closed bars, some money changers and a grocery store. Before too long, probably midway between Carriedo & Recto, a cute girl caught my eye. Her mamasan quickly diverted my gaze and asked if I wanted her. She began an intense marketing pitch - "she very young!" Another warning phrase. I asked how young and got simply, "very young! She looked to be about 18/19, but I wanted to be sure. I asked if she had ID. She didn't, but the mama insisted the hotel around the corner knew her and would let her in. Again, Admiral Akbar's words entered my head. Getting jumped in the last situation was probably better than having cops called with an underaged girl in this one. I bid adieu and headed to the Carriedo station. (On another note, the new BEEP card, which you buy from a queue-less machine for php100 for about 10 round trips is amazing and a game changer for fast movement in manila.).I did this exact route the other day. After turning right on Recto, I saw 2 KTV clubs on the right side before getting to the Isetaan Plaza. At around 2 pm, neither had any clients. You have to buy 2 or 3 beers at a time I was told. I bailed on each because being the only one and also, I saw only 1 girl in each of the bars who looked hideous. Did alot of shopping at the mall though, great place to be, girls super friendly to chat up. Locals tell me however, you do not save alot by shopping there from the street vendors, but I was happy with purchases made.

Manny51
02-16-16, 01:04
I did this exact route the other day. After turning right on Recto, I saw 2 KTV clubs on the right side before getting to the Isetaan Plaza. At around 2 pm, neither had any clients. You have to buy 2 or 3 beers at a time I was told. I bailed on each because being the only one and also, I saw only 1 girl in each of the bars who looked hideous. Did alot of shopping at the mall though, great place to be, girls super friendly to chat up. Locals tell me however, you do not save alot by shopping there from the street vendors, but I was happy with purchases made.


I didn't see any girls, but I wasn't really looking for them. I was there looking for textbooks.

But what I do remember was the great food by the street vendors. I turned right on Recto, and walked toward the universities. Part of Recto St. Is an overpass over another highway. There was this guy selling fried calamari sticks. You paid him, and he gave you one of those bbq wooden skewers, and you skewered some fried calamari. I watched everyone skewer three big pieces per stick. I asked the vendor how much it was, and he help up 3 fingers. I assumed he meant 30 pesos, only to later realize that he literally meant 3 pesos.

I had lunch on that overpass. Despite my initial hesitation, I didn't get sick at all, and it all tasted great.

Pinaypounder
02-16-16, 19:44
Gentleman.

I return to Phils in 2 weeks and I am there for a month.

My Fucket list is SHORT but ORGY remains on the list.

Who would wish to conspire with me to have at least 2 men and 3 women involved or more!

Please help an old horny man achieve his dream!

We are a wee bit kinky!

Inbox me please!
FUCK I am trying to add a picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PP.

Pinaypounder
02-16-16, 19:55
Huy guys. Going to Manila soon. Staying close to MOA. Quick questions.

EDSA = barfine 2000 + 2-3000 girl accurate yes / no?

Am in walking distance to EDSA. Safe to walk at night or taxi better?

Will report back after hol. In March.

Any recent relevant info appreciated.

And I have done a search and RTFF.

Cheers.If you stay on the main drag you are completely safe I stay and walk here often I am in good shape and like to walk so I think you can walk or take a jeepney even just watch your wallet and phone.

Venturing towards the airport direction near to Edsa is DANGEROUS got my necklace grabbed there one time!

PP.

Free2
02-17-16, 02:02
Venturing towards the airport direction near to Edsa is DANGEROUS got my necklace grabbed there one time!That stretch is creepy as hell. All those KTV's really make me curious though. What goes on in there?

I am into debauchery. I would like to know the place(s) in the Phils where the most debauchery goes on.

Anybody?

Sammon
02-17-16, 02:58
That stretch is creepy as hell. All those KTV's really make me curious though. What goes on in there?

I am into debauchery. I would like to know the place(s) in the Phils where the most debauchery goes on.

Anybody?Those KTV are mostly frequented by Japanese and Korean groups in addition to local Phi elite. I went there couple of times with a local. Some very good looking doll like girls. Low key atmosphere with most of the action in rooms like singing, drinking, groping. I heard many girls have local sugar daddies and will not go out with customers.

As debauchery it is all over the world for the right person for the right amount. In Phi you need time, effort and money to score good looking ones. Does not mean she will be your own to play with. Good looking women get lots of options.

What I like in Phi is I can get down home pretty girls from the provinces without much effort. Sex is satisfying and company is excellent.

NewImage
02-17-16, 11:01
If you stay on the main drag you are completely safe I stay and walk here often I am in good shape and like to walk so I think you can walk or take a jeepney even just watch your wallet and phone.

Venturing towards the airport direction near to Edsa is DANGEROUS got my necklace grabbed there one time!

PP.LOL.

And thanks for your info.

Manny51
02-17-16, 16:37
Those KTV are mostly frequented by Japanese and Korean groups in addition to local Phi elite. I went there couple of times with a local. Some very good looking doll like girls. Low key atmosphere with most of the action in rooms like singing, drinking, groping. I heard many girls have local sugar daddies and will not go out with customers.

As debauchery it is all over the world for the right person for the right amount. In Phi you need time, effort and money to score good looking ones. Does not mean she will be your own to play with. Good looking women get lots of options.

What I like in Phi is I can get down home pretty girls from the provinces without much effort. Sex is satisfying and company is excellent.Definitely agree.

The dating / casual sex scene is very different from the punting scene. I imagine the former to be great, and the latter overpriced and meh.

Kazeu
02-20-16, 09:53
Interestingly, you're take on Thailand vs PI is opposite what I would claim. I'd say that women are in fact more expensive in Thailand (Bangkok) than in PI generally. But for everything else, PI is more expensive. 5000 php girls from Burgus are probably the high end of the spectrum in manila. You can pretty easily find girls for 3000 php or cheaper if you know where to look. Take Angeles for example higher end bar fines are 3 k there. All in. Not like Burgos where its 2 or 3 k barfine then another 2 or 3 k to the girl depending on what you negotiate.

I do agree with you though that language is a huge advantage for PI. Chances of getting a GFE in PI is much greater.


On further reflection, I thought I would mull the question: How does the PI compare to the reset of SE Asia? Or other fun countries for that matter?

Firstly, on the ladies themselves. Their look is different from, say, Thais and Vietnamese. In addition to slightly darker skin, Filipinos have some Spanish / European in their ancestry. So they have bigger eyes. I thought that Filipino babies were some of the cutest I have ever seen. Asian faces / features, but with these big expressive eyes. That being said, I would say that I still prefer the more classical asian look lighter skin, slender figures, more delicate features.

As for the punting scene per se, in Thailand you have many options Soi Cowboy girly bars, soapy massage, oily massage, and other less conventional venues. In the PI, you don't have anywhere near that kind of variety. Its almost completely just girly bars. But despite that, prices in the PI are actually higher than in Thailand or Vietnam..

BrainDrain
02-23-16, 00:01
Had a airline booking from hell which I had consciously accepted. I have stayed at Cuenta Victoria Court a few times before. I couldn't be bothered walking out, checked wechat, could only find a few ladyboys and regular massage joints and I fell asleep about 1 am.

Jetlag had me awake about 5 am and I booked a massage girl from a choice of 7 pictures. True to the arrangement, she arrived within 25 minutes, looked good and well presented. The girl would do everything with her pants on but unwilling to get those pants off. Damage was P500 for the booking and two hour massage, tip was P1000.

Was convenient. Before long I was in a taxi going back to the airport.

I love this place.

BD.

Raj Chopra1976
02-25-16, 16:53
I am traveling to Manila. Please guide me experts who are been to this place to find best places for fun, where to find independents. MPs.

I would be thankful. You can drop me message.

Raj

FreebieFan
02-26-16, 01:40
I am traveling to Manila. Please guide me experts who are been to this place to find best places for fun, where to find independents. MPs.

I would be thankful. You can drop me message.

RajRaj theres 50,000 messages, 500 plus pages with all the info you need right here. All you got to do is read. Its all there. Manila is a city of fun (and pollution and crime and snatchings and kidnappings and scammers).

Give me an are.

Give me a T.

Give me an F etc.

Worf1972
02-26-16, 09:50
As debauchery it is all over the world for the right person for the right amount. In Phi you need time, effort and money to score good looking ones. Does not mean
What I like in Phi is I can get down home pretty girls from the provinces without much effort. Sex is satisfying and company is excellent.Yes I've found some quiet ,shy, beautiful fair skin and tan skin Filipinas from the provinces. They are basically untouched but easy for the pickings. Various different dating websites, you can utilize with time and effort a few weeks before your trip.

Wicked Roger
02-26-16, 10:35
I am traveling to Manila. Please guide me experts who are been to this place to find best places for fun, where to find independents. MPs.

I would be thankful. You can drop me message.

RajApart from Freebies RTFF how about do an advanced search for "give and take".

In the UAE forum we call you a 'manager' - and most come from India (as you do) as they tend to be lazy, only ask questions (sometimes with "hey bro / dude") and never post a FR despite copious promises to do so.

Odd behavior from the sub continent bros me thinks LOL.

Soapy Smith
02-27-16, 06:50
Indians have developed quite a reputation in the Philippines as gang-fuckers, rude, stingy, smelly, and abusive to women.

Other forum members will not refer them to their girls because they do not want any trouble.

Reminds me of a guy who bragged in the Manila thread a few years ago about taking two women to a Burgos hotel room, fucking them until they bled, and then kicking them out without paying--but gave them enough for jeepney fare. Does this ring any bells?

Maharaja? That's both original and tasteful, especially coming from a minority male.

Soapy Smith
02-27-16, 07:35
Odd behavior from the sub continent bros me thinks LOL.Maybe it's pent-up resentment toward their former colonizers, passed along to second and third generations, although admittedly misplaced if it's directed to Thai women and Filipinas. They really should be more appreciative for the great civil service system, bullets lubricated with beef fat, and railroads the British built for them. Ungrateful Indians. Rather than thank them for the railroads, they just insist the Brits built them so they'd be able to get all the loot out quickly when they left. :)

Amorbasha
02-27-16, 08:53
Decided to stop over on my way back home from Bangkok. Arrived on PHIL. Airways. First off no vegetarian meals; no dramas as it is a short flight from Bangkok 3:30 hours. Now, Manila airport is really humble, free duty almost non existent. Out after finishing paperwork with one of my bags almost damaged (Samsonite Cosmolite which virtually Indestructible). I needed to change currency and there were 3 offices just outside the airport. Taxis are either fixed rate (Don't use) and yellow caps. I have been quoted 1200 P for the fixed rate and took yellow cap which cost 265 P, big difference.

Now coming from Bangkok, Manila is depressing, too busy, dirty, people look like that they want to pick a fight with you. I did not feel safe while walking. Houses covered with dirt and looked polluted and the shortest horror story would be a minimum of an hour in traffic.

You take a taxi they look the doors, security guards everywhere even in family-marts, signs in Starbucks advising to take care of belonging, people [CodeWord112] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112) in the streets. Well, I think you get the picture. Especially when you take in consideration that I mainly monger in Dubai and Bangkok.

After arriving checked in my serviced apartment in The Beacon Tower in Makati. I was hungry and wanted to watch Gods Of Egypt in 3 D as I missed it in Bangkok. Asked how to go and I have been told it's close by. Took a Jeep for 7 P and found it challenging to communicate with other passengers to get help to tell the driver where I am going. Arrived, funny about shopping centers here that they are interconnected and confusing. Asked and eventually arrived at the movies theater. No 3 D, no 4 D just 2 D. The Ayalla Cinemas are old and dusty. Booked, saw the movie and went to the taxi rail to get a taxi. A taxi driver asked for 300 P, I refused and took another taxi which cost 70 P!

Next morning I went to SM Makati. Huge and interconnected with other malls. You won't find top brands here. I was looking for a Creed perfume and no go. I found sellers are pushy and want to sell you anything. Anyway, I went to Ruston's (I think) and that is where the top brands are. Not everything though, much higher prices than Bangkok and Dubai and even here pushy sales persons.

Finished, went to where I am staying, had a swim, and had some rest. Now the important part is at night. I came to Manila with 2 names. Kojax and be plan. I took a taxi at night from where I was having dinner, Gino's brick oven pizza (You need to try it) arrived around 10:30. Walked P Burgos Street and took a look. All the go go bars looked the same to me. Kojax is near the beginning of the street and be Plane is almost middle of the street. Kojax is harder to spot as it is a side alley. Went in, Had a seat. It was almost empty with only few punters having drinks and watching ladies dancing.

The girls themselves are around the 7 marks. However, some of them can not dance much. Most of them looked young. Mamasan came and sat down and asked me if I wanted to have a girl to come and share a drink with me. I said not at the moment as it is my first time. I felt she got offended and left. Well, I needed to observe first. The music was good and I had a soft drink (most of soft drinks are 200 P even water witch is 15 P outside) I did the mistake of paying for each drink separate and I never got a change, not good. Also the bar girls have been pushy with drinks, I can only drink that much especially I don't drink alcohol. A good trick I found is to get drinks in a can and not to use glass, this way they don't notice if you have finished your drink.

Spotted a couple of girls who grabbed my attention, one is really sexy with great body and the other had a really nice smile and kept looking at me. Mamasan vanished somewhere and only showed when a customer walked in. I found the place empty and only a couple of customers who did not bar fine any girls. I asked one of the bar girls for the mamasan, she came I asked for the prices 2900 BF+3000 for the girl. I told her about the girl I liked who was hiding inside at the time. I bought her a drink talked a bit, I asked when would she leave in the morning, she said 4 AM! It was 2 AM already. So, I said 9:00 and she agreed. A final note here that I found the mamasan attractive and mature. Anyone tried to check if she could be taken out?

So lessons from the bar:

Arrive earlier 10:00-11:00.

Order cans not glasses.

Pay for all drinks at once, not drink by drink and have lots of 100-200 P notes. Bar girls don't return change for the 500 P.

Take your time choosing, you will notice some girls having few laughs with each other's and have lovely spirit others are just gloomy and don't look happy being there.

Girls will appear much taller than what they really are.

The experience:

The girl I took was great, she didn't ask for the money till I gave to her, very playful, great natural boobs, lots of hugs, kisses, touches.

Offered her to have breakfast with me next day and go to the movies with me to IMAX and she agreed and was hugging me the whole day, holding my hand, and great GFE. I ended up BF for the next day.

Allowed me BB and that was good / bad thing.

DFK like no tomorrow.

Great body, boobs and rode me like a champion.

Great energy.

Not pushy for money and not a time watcher.

Spent a whole couple of days with me going out, dinning and shopping center exploration.

The Bad:

No oral, no rimming.

Took most of the bed while we were not having sex and trying to sleep.).

Didn't allow DTY and that was a worry.

By the end of the next day, while she didn't allow me DTY I had a chance to take a look at her pussy and I while I am no gynecologist something didn't look right. Ulcers or scars I am not too sure, that was the buzz killer for me. I left her on bed, showered and scrubbed my Jr. I tried to connect the dots that she do no DTY, prefer to fuck under sheets, backside or riding me. Maybe I am paranoid, and maybe I am right. I asked her and she said she is clean and had to do a STD test every 6 weeks.

Playing with her phone often. However she leaves it when I start to get unhappy.

Always playing with your dick so I almost always had an erection.

Don't use lube and she is tight. So some time friction hurt.

All in all I am flying back home and planning to do STI screen to make sure there is / isn't major dramas.

Regarding visiting Philippine again. I am not too sure really. I am a fan of Bangkok and Dubai as I like shopping, eating, walking around the place. However, I really enjoyed this GFE. I think I should have had a different girl the second night. Maybe next time I would stay longer, try different girls every night. Also, maybe if I stayed longer and gave myself a chance to like the place I might actually like it. But simple stuff like coffee, it does taste nice as elsewhere, every time I eat I get indigestion and heartburn. Maybe if I was punting with another punters I would enjoy it more. So, I am really not too sure if I would come back.

WestCoast1
02-27-16, 17:03
Manila is depressing, too busy, dirty, people look like that they want to pick a fight with you. I did not feel safe while walking. Houses covered with dirt and looked polluted and the shortest horror story would be a minimum of an hour in traffic.

You take a taxi they look the doors, security guards everywhere even in family-marts, signs in Starbucks advising to take care of belonging, people pi$$ in the streets. Well, I think you get the picture.He NAILED it! Great report Amor

Next time try to visit Quiapo. . .

Asian Rain
02-27-16, 19:27
Allowed me BB and that was good / bad thing.

The Bad:

By the end of the next day, while she didn't allow me DTY I had a chance to take a look at her pussy and I while I am no gynecologist something didn't look right. Ulcers or scars I am not too sure, that was the buzz killer for me. I left her on bed, showered and scrubbed my Jr. I tried to connect the dots that she do no DTY, prefer to fuck under sheets, backside or riding me. Maybe I am paranoid, and maybe I am right. I asked her and she said she is clean and had to do a STD test every 6 weeks.Nice description of Manila, especially in comparison to Bangkok. Truly a country with a lot to bemoan. But at least you got some tail. Good luck with your Jr. Sounds like he was rubbing up against a mean outreak of herpes sores for two nights straight, so wish you the best. Let us know if anything untoward pops up in the coming months. Enjoy Manila, AsianRain.

FunForUnMe
02-27-16, 22:47
Maharaja, independents run away when approached by Indians much the same as in Thailand. Indians have developed quite a reputation in the Philippines as gang-fuckers, rude, stingy, smelly, and abusive to women. Also, they are known to tell girls where they got their contact info, show them posts and demand the same thing as the other guy, etc. The best girls in Manila tend to avoid them. Other forum members will not refer them to their girls because they do not want any trouble.I don't agree to you at all. I am Indian by decent and working in Quezon city (Hope you Figure out my workplace by now). I had to many girls in Manila, and in fact in touch with 5-6 girls right now as well. I already lived in hotels like EDSA Shangrila. OakWood. BSA Twin towers. And so on. No girl ever run away from me, even I got many girls at Paddy's point Ortigas and end up on bed without money. So, no offense on decent basis. If you can help the guy then do it else don't show him mirror of his origin country. Respect for all.

This post is just an example of my experience. Else by now All mamasan knows me by face in EDSA & Makati. Even I am most respected person in Barthlina in Quezone Strip Club. Many girls knows me in Taguig and in ST. Mesa. I already helped him in other forum and also offered to contact me once he landed there. Will show him entire Manila. Angeles City. Cebu and Boracay.

Chocha Monger
02-28-16, 04:09
I don't agree to you at all. I am Indian by decent and working in Quezon city (Hope you Figure out my workplace by now). I had to many girls in Manila, and in fact in touch with 5-6 girls right now as well. I already lived in hotels like EDSA Shangrila. OakWood. BSA Twin towers. And so on. No girl ever run away from me, even I got many girls at Paddy's point Ortigas and end up on bed without money. So, no offense on decent basis. If you can help the guy then do it else don't show him mirror of his origin country. Respect for all.

This post is just an example of my experience. Else by now All mamasan knows me by face in EDSA & Makati. Even I am most respected person in Barthlina in Quezone Strip Club. Many girls knows me in Taguig and in ST. Mesa. I already helped him in other forum and also offered to contact me once he landed there. Will show him entire Manila. Angeles City. Cebu and Boracay.EDSA must have an Indian price because 2,000 PHP for LT is not what other forum members report paying. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?953-Bangalore&p=1844394&viewfull=1#post1844394.

LukeSkywalker
02-28-16, 09:36
Last time I was in Manila, a local friend took me to a few private houses in Ermita and Makati, each had 20 to 30 young girls hang out in casual clothes. Their clients seem to be all local Pinoys.

I was able to find a few very good-looking girls for over nights date. They were very nice, sweet, good, innocent, girls-next-door type, with little or no make ups, completely unlike hardened bar girls. I actually much prefer these girls over bar girls. But all insist on leaving at 6 AM, WTF? I had to wake up early and take them down to the taxi. They were all young with perfect bodies, no evidence of having had babies, but why they all have to leave before 6? Perhaps they have babies that they have to take care of?

Wonder if any bros have been picking up girls form these private houses recently? Any recent intel please share.

Thank you.

WilBel
02-28-16, 13:52
Hi Raj,

Don't worry for anything. I had the same questions like you few weeks back before coming to Manila and in fact I got the same answers. But when I arrived in Manila it was different. Simple thumb rule money matters in Manila. Whether you are Asian or non Asian throw the money even the best looking girl will sleep with you. It all nails down to money. When I opened my WeChat close to 10+ women's started messaging me for service. Don't need to worry for any racial shit. Maybe you may end with higher price sometimes but when a women needs money irrespective of your age, race and color they just sleep with you. Good Luck buddy.


I am traveling to Manila. Please guide me experts who are been to this place to find best places for fun, where to find independents. MPs.

I would be thankful. You can drop me message.

Raj

Sammon
02-28-16, 15:41
Regarding visiting Philippine again. I am not too sure really. I am a fan of Bangkok and Dubai as I like shopping, eating, walking around the place. However, I really enjoyed this GFE. I think I should have had a different girl the second night. Maybe next time I would stay longer, try different girls every night. Also, maybe if I stayed longer and gave myself a chance to like the place I might actually like it. But simple stuff like coffee, it does taste nice as elsewhere, every time I eat I get indigestion and heartburn. Maybe if I was punting with another punters I would enjoy it more. So, I am really not too sure if I would come back.If you are looking for GFE, You should have hit the dating sites like dateinasia. Should start at least a month before your arrival. I have exclusively used normal dating girls on my visits. Majority are very nice and GFE. I would have at least 5-6 lined up so that if one does not work go to next one. They make the best company for dining (although they are not used to expensive foods), Movies, walking around, going to clubs to dance etc.

Philippines is known for finding normal girls to stay with you and have fun irrespective of your age or wealth. Costs less money than bar girls. In fact you can buy her lots of gifts which she will appreciate. Classic example is last time I had met a 18 year old factory worker from Taguig introduced to me by another girl who had gone to province at that time. This girl just wanted two school bags for her siblings. Instead of wasting money on bargirls I had really taken care of her and she appreciated it every bit.

Thailand was like this before but nowadays it is not easy there to find GFE normal girls. Dubai is all about money, money and MONEY.

LukeSkywalker
02-28-16, 17:20
I hate to deal with hardened bar girls. Some are so cold, callous, angry and mercenary, they just kill off any sexy moods. A few old and ugly girls in LA Cafe acted like that.

I would prefer dating the girls next door type. I know a lot if not most of them have economic problems. I don't mind sharing some of my wealth to help them out, like friends.


If you are looking for GFE, You should have hit the dating sites like dateinasia. Should start at least a month before your arrival. I have exclusively used normal dating girls on my visits. Majority are very nice and GFE. I would have at least 5-6 lined up so that if one does not work go to next one. They make the best company for dining (although they are not used to expensive foods), Movies, walking around, going to clubs to dance etc.

Philippines is known for finding normal girls to stay with you and have fun irrespective of your age or wealth. Costs less money than bar girls. In fact you can buy her lots of gifts which she will appreciate. Classic example is last time I had met a 18 year old factory worker from Taguig introduced to me by another girl who had gone to province at that time. This girl just wanted two school bags for her siblings. Instead of wasting money on bargirls I had really taken care of her and she appreciated it every bit.

Thailand was like this before but nowadays it is not easy there to find GFE normal girls. Dubai is all about money, money and MONEY.

D Cups
02-28-16, 17:22
Not recent (maybe a year ago) but I concur with your assessment. Not sure what time she left but don't think it was that early.




Wonder if any bros have been picking up girls form these private houses recently?

.

Raj Chopra1976
02-28-16, 17:55
Thanks bro, many people disappointed. Thumbs up for your advise. But surely I want to tell all those guys talking about racism, it is not good to blame whole race because somebody did some wrong things.

Raj


Hi Raj,

Don't worry for anything. I had the same questions like you few weeks back before coming to Manila and in fact I got the same answers. But when I arrived in Manila it was different. Simple thumb rule money matters in Manila. Whether you are Asian or non Asian throw the money even the best looking girl will sleep with you. It all nails down to money. When I opened my WeChat close to 10+ women's started messaging me for service. Don't need to worry for any racial shit. Maybe you may end with higher price sometimes but when a women needs money irrespective of your age, race and color they just sleep with you. Good Luck buddy.

Dark Knight1
02-28-16, 18:49
I don't agree to you at all. I am Indian by decent and working in Quezon city (Hope you Figure out my workplace by now). I had to many girls in Manila, and in fact in touch with 5-6 girls right now as well. I already lived in hotels like EDSA Shangrila. OakWood. BSA Twin towers. And so on. No girl ever run away from me, even I got many girls at Paddy's point Ortigas and end up on bed without money. So, no offense on decent basis. If you can help the guy then do it else don't show him mirror of his origin country. Respect for all.

This post is just an example of my experience. Else by now All mamasan knows me by face in EDSA & Makati. Even I am most respected person in Barthlina in Quezone Strip Club. Many girls knows me in Taguig and in ST. Mesa. I already helped him in other forum and also offered to contact me once he landed there. Will show him entire Manila. Angeles City. Cebu and Boracay.There are girls in Philippines who don't favor white guys. (Shocking I know). There are girls who don't favor Indians, Asians, and all the above. The message is simple they are human beings who have preferences like everyone else on the planet.

Every so often we receive one of these post from members on this forum about what racial group the girls prefer. I remember board member West coast stating that the girls don't like Blacks. I really have question of the motive of posts with such content.

I have seen plenty of Indian guys with women in Philippines, Black Americans and Native Africans alike.

There is large Indian expat population (IT employees) as well a small segment of retired Black Americans living in PI. Koreans and native Africans are a growing expat community. These guys have no shortage of women as I have personally witnessed this.

Now their may be some truth in his comments that overall Whites are generally accepted but lets not kid ourselves men of all colors have came to the Philippines to empty their scrotum for centuries and the process is not going to stop no time soon.

MrWoolyBooly
02-29-16, 00:59
Last time I was in Manila, a local friend took me to a few private houses in Ermita and Makati, each had 20 to 30 young girls hang out in casual clothes.


Not recent (maybe a year ago) but I concur with your assessment. Not sure what time she left but don't think it was that early.
Two senior members with generally positive review of the casa scene, while two others recently reviewed the scene clearly negatively. This calls for independent investigation. I'll be in Malate & Makati soon and will gladly follow up as circumstances allow on any details precise enough for me to safely investigate. Please share publicly or by PM.

Manny51
02-29-16, 01:27
There are girls in Philippines who don't favor white guys. (Shocking I know). There are girls who don't favor Indians, Asians, and all the above. The message is simple they are human beings who have preferences like everyone else on the planet.

Every so often we receive one of these post from members on this forum about what racial group the girls prefer. I remember board member West coast stating that the girls don't like Blacks. I really have question of the motive of posts with such content.

I have seen plenty of Indian guys with women in Philippines, Black Americans and Native Africans alike.

There is large Indian expat population (IT employees) as well a small segment of retired Black Americans living in PI. Koreans and native Africans are a growing expat community. These guys have no shortage of women as I have personally witnessed this.

Now their may be some truth in his comments that overall Whites are generally accepted but lets not kid ourselves men of all colors have came to the Philippines to empty their scrotum for centuries and the process is not going to stop no time soon.Agreed. In fact, I'll go even further that say that it makes me laugh whenever I see guys whine about how PI girls like Koreans or other Asians better than whites or blacks.

They themselves are Asian. What the hell do you expect?

We are not talking about racial equality in the office here, or civil rights. We are talking about sex. Not to mention the fact that Asian customers are willing to pay more for less.

Whiners need to get a life. If you want to hang out in an atmosphere where white guys are preferred, then go to Germany.

LukeSkywalker
02-29-16, 01:50
These places have no rooms on premises for sex, so they are not casas. They are just large living rooms where dozens young girls hang out waiting for guys to pick them up and take them somewhere else for ST or whole night. I found these girls much sweeter, sexier and more funs than bar girls.

My contact info may be too old, but I will call a few places and find out if they are still in business.

I have not tried the dating scene so don't know how it would go. I think dating with sex is my preferred way to go. I have around 20 DIA girl willing to meet when I arrive in manila, some flying in from Mindanao, Cebu, some girls will be borrowing money from sisters for bus fares from Olongapo ect. They are so sweet and in such dire economic hardship that my heart keeps crying for them.

I am a very passionate and compassionate guy, so it can be a major life hazard.


Two senior members with generally positive review of the casa scene, while two others recently reviewed the scene clearly negatively. This calls for independent investigation. I'll be in Malate & Makati soon and will gladly follow up as circumstances allow on any details precise enough for me to safely investigate. Please share publicly or by PM.

Lefeu
02-29-16, 08:56
...If you want to hang out in an atmosphere where white guys are preferred, then go to Germany.I would say that even in Germany, a non-white monger can do just fine. In the mongering world, it seems that there are many other aspects at play, such as generosity of the monger, whether he has game, whether he is a nice man, and how he treats the girls. Not to mention self confidence.

I am not white, have been going to German FKKs for 10+ years, and I always had a good time there. I have been there with many Caucasian buddies, and I managed to do as well as them. I still plan to go there every year and I look forward to having a good time.

WestCoast1
02-29-16, 15:25
Hello friends,

I'd like to know if it is easy to find Viagra in Manila. How much 100 MG costs? Is it necessary the prescription or can I buy it without problems?

How much money have I usually give to girls I meet on dating sites like DIA or Facebook and if I fuck them for all night?Send me a PM, I have thoughts for you.

Wicked Roger
02-29-16, 20:04
Hello friends,

I'd like to know if it is easy to find Viagra in Manila. How much 100 MG costs? Is it necessary the prescription or can I buy it without problems?

How much money have I usually give to girls I meet on dating sites like DIA or Facebook and if I fuck them for all night?Try RTFF as this subject has been discussed in depth over many years.

And pay the $20 so Westie (kind old soul that he is) can let know the details.

But if you RTFF the answers are there, trust me they are as I have posted information on this subject also.

Your first FR was also a question, the second as well and third was basically one. God track record so far LOL.

Free2
02-29-16, 20:15
Hello friends,

I'd like to know if it is easy to find Viagra in Manila. How much 100 MG costs? Is it necessary the prescription or can I buy it without problems?

How much money have I usually give to girls I meet on dating sites like DIA or Facebook and if I fuck them for all night?Don't buy Cialis or anything else from people on the street. Ever.

From Watsons drugs you can buy 100 g sildenafil for total 140 php / each, no prescription. If they say you need one, just say you don't have one, but really need the pills. Good chance they will just sell them to you. If not, move on to the next drug store.

Andros is the generic brand there.

Viagra from Mercury Drug is super expensive.

If you fuck the girl all night, that is worth 1500 minimum to me. Even if she doesn't ask for it. I have happily shelled out 2 k if it was great and she had a great attitude. I have given girls 1.5 - 2 k per night, even after dining them. The dining experience is not expensive and keeps me company. Otherwise I am alone and bored.

There are girls who will not be expecting anything from you. In these cases, I have just given them a dinner and some transport money (300 p). Always give transport money.
Not to be cheap, but they just wanted to fuck. I would pay girls like that if they hinted about it, but they didn't.

Go with your gut and go with how it feels when the girl is getting ready to go. At that point is when you make the decision about how much to pay her if you are going to pay her and nothing has been discussed.

Soapy Smith
02-29-16, 20:24
Viagra from Mercury Drug is super expensive.Kumagra is essentially the same chemistry as viagra, and much cheaper. Check past posts from Red Kilt and Hutsori for useful information about where to get it and what it costs. Generic Drugs is often a better alternative than Watsons or Mercury Drugs. In my experience they are less likely to ask for prescriptions, and prices are often lower.

Free2
02-29-16, 20:32
Saturday 9 pm, I am walking south along Derupiraru Street to LA Cafe. Less than a block before LA Cafe there is a cuuute girl sitting on the sidewalk. Looks 18, but not sure, so I stop and ask her how old she is. She says 18, sir. I ask for ID. She shows me this BS piece of ID that has no birthdate on it. She is telling me her exact birthdate, but I am not buying it. At one point she says "The policeman there knows I am 18, he knows it sir. ".

I am like "The POLICEMAN?" I look up and there, right across the street is a policeman standing beside his motorbike. I get up and leave immediately, not wanting to end up paying a 20,000 php bribe or to end up in a filipino prison. As I walk, 10 steps later I pass the 2nd policeman on the same side of the road as she is, he is standing there talking to someone. Both cops made sure to avoid my eye contact. PHEW!

The red flag was when she was seeming to use the policeman to verify her age. Weird or what.

Be careful out there guys.

LukeSkywalker
02-29-16, 20:37
I bought a pack of Cialis in Rio for about $10 a pop to try out. I took the whole pill and had erection all 36 hours long.

Bought Cialis from a major pharmacy in ZHUHAI, China for about the same price with personal warranty from the pharmacist. Pills were in factory-sealed packs with holograms ect. They were all duds. Damn these Chinese counterfeiting assholes.

I buy a load of generic viagra from the web site listed in ISG. The Gen Viagra pills work perfectly, but the Cialis from the same web site are just duds. I chop the pills up into 8 pieces and take one only when I feel iffy for the second or third sessions the same night. Highly recommended this web site.

Soapy Smith
03-01-16, 00:26
Kumagra is essentially the same chemistry as viagra, and much cheaper. Check past posts from Red Kilt and Hutsori for useful information about where to get it and what it costs. Generic Drugs is often a better alternative than Watsons or Mercury Drugs. In my experience they are less likely to ask for prescriptions, and prices are often lower.That should be Kamagra. It generally comes from India, where Pfizer's patent on viagra does not apply.

Sxxxx
03-07-16, 22:21
Someone has queried me about what he thinks is a new scam at Manila Airport.

Apparently an Airport official approaches you and says your on a banned list. Money fixes the problem.

Has anyone heard of this one? Nothing would surprise me, LOL.

Jp Slicky
03-08-16, 08:18
Perhaps some may disagree, but I never ever talk to anyone on the streets in Manila.

A simple Hello, good bye or No thank you is all.


Saturday 9 pm, I am walking south along Derupiraru Street to LA Cafe. Less than a block before LA Cafe there is a cuuute girl sitting on the sidewalk. Looks 18, but not sure, so I stop and ask her how old she is. She says 18, sir. I ask for ID. She shows me this BS piece of ID that has no birthdate on it. She is telling me her exact birthdate, but I am not buying it. At one point she says "The policeman there knows I am 18, he knows it sir. ".

I am like "The POLICEMAN?" I look up and there, right across the street is a policeman standing beside his motorbike. I get up and leave immediately, not wanting to end up paying a 20,000 php bribe or to end up in a filipino prison. As I walk, 10 steps later I pass the 2nd policeman on the same side of the road as she is, he is standing there talking to someone. Both cops made sure to avoid my eye contact. PHEW!

The red flag was when she was seeming to use the policeman to verify her age. Weird or what.

Be careful out there guys.

Dg8787
03-08-16, 08:48
Someone has queried me about what he thinks is a new scam at Manila Airport.

Apparently an Airport official approaches you and says your on a banned list. Money fixes the problem.

Has anyone heard of this one? Nothing would surprise me, LOL.Never ever heard of this scam. Apparently it would only work coming into the country than on your way out. Now from the gate to immigration is pretty secured with only passengers and airport personnel directing you to immigration. I don't see how anyone can approach you. Next stop is the immigration booths.

You would have to be pretty stupid to be scammed with this and I don't see where they could do it. Sounds like a BS story to me.

TravelTop
03-08-16, 09:20
These places have no rooms on premises for sex, so they are not casas. They are just large living rooms where dozens young girls hang out waiting for guys to pick them up and take them somewhere else for ST or whole night. I found these girls much sweeter, sexier and more funs than bar girls.

My contact info may be too old, but I will call a few places and find out if they are still in business.

I have not tried the dating scene so don't know how it would go. I think dating with sex is my preferred way to go. I have around 20 DIA girl willing to meet when I arrive in manila, some flying in from Mindanao, Cebu, some girls will be borrowing money from sisters for bus fares from Olongapo ect. They are so sweet and in such dire economic hardship that my heart keeps crying for them.

I am a very passionate and compassionate guy, so it can be a major life hazard.I have tried some Five year ago as I was taken by a Taxi Driver saying he would arrange University Students. Inside the House were some 20 girls and I picked the simplest and cutest one, took to my Hotel and kept the whole night. She said that she is a 2nd yr nursing student and this is her second time in action as she needs some money to support her education. Do you guys know any more places like that where we can get students or Non Pro freelancers?

LukeSkywalker
03-08-16, 21:06
Apparently there are many casas in Ermita and Malate where Pinoys and Pinays go to hire girls and boys to fuck the daylight out of them. I picked up Some of the best-looking, young, fresh, sexiest girls in bed and sweetest companies in town from these casas.

Yes. A few Pinays DIA girls in their 30's, professional, managerial and wealthy business women, admitted to me that they do go to the casas to hire partners for sex. So any bros paying to fuck older Pinays, like in their late 20's, then they are being figuratively fucked by those girls. They should get paid with their big, long foreign cocks, not having to pay big bar fines to these bars and their asshole mamasans, papasans.

I don't have current contacts. Suggest you do some literature search in the net then some leg work on location to find out where and how to fuck sweet young Pinays for cheap. Stay in a hotel in Ermita or Malate and ask the hotel people. They know the cabbies who know the current casas.


I have tried some Five year ago as I was taken by a Taxi Driver saying he would arrange University Students. Inside the House were some 20 girls and I picked the simplest and cutest one, took to my Hotel and kept the whole night. She said that she is a 2nd yr nursing student and this is her second time in action as she needs some money to support her education. Do you guys know any more places like that where we can get students or Non Pro freelancers?

MrWoolyBooly
03-09-16, 05:57
I have tried some Five year ago as I was taken by a Taxi Driver saying he would arrange University Students. Inside the House were some 20 girls and I picked the simplest and cutest one, took to my Hotel and kept the whole night. She said that she is a 2nd yr nursing student and this is her second time in action as she needs some money to support her education. Do you guys know any more places like that where we can get students or Non Pro freelancers?


Apparently there are many casas in Ermita and Malate where Pinoys and Pinays go to hire girls and boys to fuck the daylight out of them. I picked up Some of the best-looking, young, fresh, sexiest girls in bed and sweetest companies in town from these casas.

I don't have current contacts. Suggest you do some literature search in the net then some leg work on location to find out where and how to fuck sweet young Pinays for cheap. Stay in a hotel in Ermita or Malate and ask the hotel people. They know the cabbies who know the current casas.OK, gents and others. Who's going to step up with an update? I can try next month if I get some good leads, whether on specific sites or just taxi guy contacts who know the scene. No promises, but I never could resist curiosity or a hottie in need. Post or PM me with details anybody who has any.

Roger Sideways
03-09-16, 07:55
OK, gents and others. Who's going to step up with an update? I can try next month if I get some good leads, whether on specific sites or just taxi guy contacts who know the scene. No promises, but I never could resist curiosity or a hottie in need. Post or PM me with details anybody who has any.I will be in Manila in the first week in April. Definitely interested in checking out the casas.

I would be grateful for any leads, and I will happily report back here with the results.

Sammon
03-10-16, 01:22
Hi friends,

I don't know Philippines at all. I will reach Manila and I'd like to ask something. I'm talking for 3-4 days with 2 girls and talking with them is very interesting. I have meet hem on DateinAsia and now I'm talking with them.

On Facebook. They are intelligent, sweet and joking girls. Can they disguise themselves as regular girls but in reality they are freelancers? Their pics seems normal pics. They never asked me money but sometimes they don't despise to talk about sex and they like.

To meet me really and to live with me for some days in my apartment in Makati. I'm asking this question because I will be happier to meet regular girls. What are your thoughts?

ThanksThere are different kind of freelancers. Some do it for rent, tuition fees, food expenses, buying camera and clothes and the list goes on. What you maybe referring to is they loiter around or hang out in bars to be picked up and get paid for sex. In my experience I have met and fucked some who are freelancers of some kind although they did not admit to it. When I chat with a girl I do ask her how much money she wants for being with me. Most including regular girls will quote an amount or say up to you or buy me this and that.

On the other hand if you meant they are only interested in being with you, you are sadly mistaken. All the girls need money even the regular ones. If they are willing to be with you and fuck you it is certain they will fuck anybody.

My advice is stop worrying about what they do for a living and try them out. After all I believe you are not planning to marry them and support them. If they provide good service and company take care of them and be happy. If you are visiting to have a good time that is. None of the girls will answer your questions truthfully.

Blanquiceleste
03-10-16, 02:04
I don't know Philippines at all.

SNIP

On Facebook. They are intelligent, sweet and joking girls.

SNIP

What are your thoughts?Yeah. Looks like you don't know the Philippines. No matter what they say, they are in it for the money. Call them what you fancy, but be absolutely certain that they are not sleeping with you for anything other than money or some sort of material exchange.

GoodEnough
03-10-16, 06:22
Yeah. Looks like you don't know the Philippines. No matter what they say, they are in it for the money. Call them what you fancy, but be absolutely certain that they are not sleeping with you for anything other than money or some sort of material exchange.Except of course, in my case, where they're in it for my young, virile good looks, my fascinating personality and my depth of character. Thanks, Blanq, for reminding us all to look in a mirror once in a while.

GE.

X Man
03-10-16, 11:35
GE, the Wolf of Davao.


Except of course, in my case, where they're in it for my young, virile good looks, my fascinating personality and my depth of character. Thanks, Blanq, for reminding us all to look in a mirror once in a while.

GE.

Blanquiceleste
03-10-16, 15:45
Except of course, in my case, where they're in it for my young, virile good looks, my fascinating personality and my depth of character. Thanks, Blanq, for reminding us all to look in a mirror once in a while.

GE.Hear Hear! GE For President!

LukeSkywalker
03-10-16, 17:21
I have a few old casa contacts in Ermita and Quezon City, not sure if they are still good.

I PMed it to a bro, apparently living in the Phil and familiar with Manila, with a few other info. Hopefully he can open up more leads.


I will be in Manila in the first week in April. Definitely interested in checking out the casas.

I would be grateful for any leads, and I will happily report back here with the results.

BrainDrain
03-10-16, 21:31
She is fallen madly in love for me even if I am not young. With my experience I am not mistaken.

I know it can be incredible even for me but it is so.I do love the Philippines and I do love the way the girls make us feel. Welcome to the experience. Disneyland for Adults.

I am sure that as you RTFF you will see how much of this goes on. I love these girls, I even tell them I love them too. The thresholds and definition of 'love' for a pinay is entirely different to yours.

As it is your first trip to Philippines I have a feeling you don't need to be heading down to Mindanao (as nice as it is). You can have just as much first time fun in Cebu, Manila and AC without the extra trip to the southern islands.

Enjoy your trip.

BD.

Blanquiceleste
03-11-16, 00:44
Yeah. Looks like you don't know the Philippines. No matter what they say, they are in it for the money. Call them what you fancy, but be absolutely certain that they are not sleeping with you for anything other than money or some sort of material exchange.And I stand corrected. This is from the AC thread. Well. To argue my point, there WAS material exchange. A movie. But a mere mortal like me would count that as free.


Sometimes, yes. Many times, yes. Always, NO! I met a chick at the market two weeks ago. She came over and stayed that night and I have let her come stay 4 more nights since. As a matter of fact she is right here lying on top of me as I type this. If I tell her she can't come she gets mad.

Sautrday I finally took her to see Gods of Egypt. She had been on me a week about going to see the movie but I have been busy with friends. We went at night so her ticket was $5. She didn't even want any snacks. That is the only money I have spent on this woman in 2 weeks. We have not been to eat together or anything. I pay hookers here in Thailand $28/ night. So $5 for 5 nights or $28 for 1 night. Free sex does not always cost more.

Dg8787
03-11-16, 01:29
And I stand corrected. This is from the AC thread. Well. To argue my point, there WAS material exchange. A movie. But a mere mortal like me would count that as free.Her family can not eat a movie.

Wicked Roger
03-11-16, 06:43
I'd be curious to know the precise meaning of love in the Philippines. Many times some pinays told me "I love you". What do they mean?As Brain Drain said as you RTFF (have you done any as you are asking lots of questions only I your 10 posts - 15 more and you will be a senior LOL) you will find various definitions but it all really mean "wallet" LOL.

BrainDrain
03-11-16, 08:33
I'd be curious to know the precise meaning of love in the Philippines. Many times some pinays told me "I love you". What do they mean?The meaning includes:

I love you to buy me food.

I love you to pay for my expenses.

I love you to meet my family and pay their expenses.

I love you to help me get to your country and marry a better looking guy than you.

(there may be more).

The meaning of "I love you" by a Filipina does NOT include:

I love you unconditionally.

I love you and will not love others.

I love you only.

This discussion is more suited to Filipinas. Opinions and Advice thread.

As at 5pm, COB the number of Filipinas whom have told me today they are In Love with me is 4.

1. Cebuana beauty, university student final year
2. Maid in Saudi, home in two years
3. Phone desperate Mindanao girl, she really 'needs' an iphone 6.
4. Provincial medical specialist receptionist

They all say I Love you BD for their own reasons.

Blanquiceleste
03-11-16, 13:19
The meaning includes:

I love you to buy me food.

I love you to pay for my expenses.

I love you to meet my family and pay their expenses.

I love you to help me get to your country and marry a better looking guy than you.

(there may be more).

The meaning of "I love you" by a Filipina does NOT include:

I love you unconditionally.

I love you and will not love others.

I love you only.

This discussion is more suited to Filipinas. Opinions and Advice thread.

As at 5pm, COB the number of Filipinas whom have told me today they are In Love with me is 4.

1. Cebuana beauty, university student final year
2. Maid in Saudi, home in two years
3. Phone desperate Mindanao girl, she really 'needs' an iphone 6.
4. Provincial medical specialist receptionist

They all say I Love you BD for their own reasons.BD you are being too harsh. Sometimes it may be a simple "I love you to come to my bar and buy me drinks and buy drinks for my friends. ".

NewImage
03-11-16, 13:29
Have heard something about a bar upstairs at EDSA where girls go after clubs close at 12? Any info please.

Are EDSA prices Barfine 1950 and girl 2,000 -- 2,500 ?

Thanks.

Blanquiceleste
03-11-16, 19:50
They are intelligent, sweet, funny and lovable girls. Make this try.Scoff all you will now. We will await a solid FR from you after your trip. 11 posts, all questions, as WR pointed out. No pressure.

I wish you good luck and plenty of pinay pussy for this trip! May the force be with you.

SaltyPete
03-12-16, 02:25
Have heard something about a bar upstairs at EDSA where girls go after clubs close at 12? Any info please.

Are EDSA prices Barfine 1950 and girl 2,000 -- 2,500 ?

Thanks.I have been to EDSA complex the last three nights. I recall seeing a "disco" sign inside and stairs leading up, but did not try it out. I do know that the bars stay open until 3 am. There are not many customers at EDSA, even on a Friday night between 7-9 so I doubt that disco would be a good place to go. Without men to buy them drinks and take them home, girls have no reason to go there. And, at 3 am, they mostly just want to go home. Once you visit EDSA for yourself, you will see that it isn't exactly in the middle of things.

You pay the bar php1950 (mamasan will ask for a tip) and the girls ask for ST between 2500-3000. LT is 3500-5000. You may be able to negotiate the higher range down. It seems to be a buyer's market. I'd say the quality of girls is at least as high as Burgos Street.

It is funny to see a group of Asian (Korean / Japanese) men enter a bar and have all the girls line up for them. They don't do that for me! But after I thought about it, I wouldn't like it if they did. I prefer to sit down, scout the place out and see the girls in their natural environment. Then I can see who the playful, fun girls are, vs the sour pusses. The most annoying thing is when a mamasan sits down next to me and with a sweep of her hand, points out the girls on stage. Gee, thanks, I did not see them there.

I stay at the Heritage, right across the street from EDSA Entertainment, close to Mall of Asia, and in the vicinity of the airport.

Let me know if you find out any more information on the disco. I just can't see it being a good place to go.

BigRig2007
03-12-16, 03:00
Alright, first opportunity to actually post a report. I have been asking questions for months. I arrived yesterday and got ripped off by the taxi drivers immediately. Paid about 2000 pesos to get to Victoria Court Pasay Cuneta from the airport. Everyone asks for tip, then asks for more tip. Fuck. Victoria Court is OK. I will not stay there again though. I wasn't aware of how the hotel was situated and how it was like a drive in hotel. It is, however, pretty discreet and has great vibes for having a sex party! I went through some shock with the traffic and how they drive here. I wouldn't be caught dead driving here. It's the Wild West on the road.

Anyway, I had booked months in advance with Christine (makatimassage4u.com) but she flaked, said she was sick. Oh well. I went to EDSA Entertainment complex right at opening time 7:00 pm. I ended up at Pitstop because of the reviews and I was thoroughly impressed by the girls I saw there and at the other bars as well. A lot of pretty girls in this complex. I was the only one in there so I got a lot of attention. Mama Gina is sweet and explained to me the ins and outs. She also told me how I got ripped off by the taxi drivers! Very nice lady. They also had an older lady massaging my back. She was great. A lot of girls around and on the stage. No real dancing they were all just trying to get my attention. One was really trying so I invited her down with a gesture. She came down and was very pretty 5'1 and almost 100 lbs. Spinner material. Couldn't even tell you her name. So it was immediate barfine 1800 pesos and we went to dinner at s seafood place with a bunch of ladyboys. It was good though. Since I had her with me, I was no longer getting ripped off by the taxis! We needed up going back to Pitstop to take them the leftovers and ended up drinking some more and more back rubs since it was still dead, they wanted to milk me but that was fine. I had a lot of fun in the bar talking to the mama and the girls.

We went back to hotel and it was all good in the performance area. Not great but good. She was very responsive to me and came twice. A lot of DATY, BBBJ. Nothing around the ass though. She was very pretty so I was happy with her performance. Twice before bed. Then once in the morning. 4000 pesos later, we are now sitting at SM Mall of Asia. Going to shop and then she is going to help me get to the airport without getting ripped off. I am off too Bangkok this afternoon.

In summary, I really like EDSA. I wish I had another day to spend more time there. I will on the way back.

Red Kilt
03-12-16, 06:48
Have heard something about a bar upstairs at EDSA where girls go after clubs close at 12? Any info please.

There are a couple of exclusive "spaces" upstairs that are the preserve of a group of extremely well-heeled Middle Eastern gentlemen who arrive late and stay until around 4 am.

Many of the top girls don't come on duty until around 10.30 pm so that they can go upstairs as hostesses for these men.

They don't take the girls out, but they lavish them with cash for being warm companions. $1000 usd tips are common.

The expenses on top shelf spirits are mind-boggling for the budget punter.

It's probably right out of your league and I unless you have a spare $5 grand USD to throw around.

(I know this because I know one of the bar owners and also one of the girls.).

Blanquiceleste
03-12-16, 17:05
But you have to think how much is amazing to get blowjobs with their dentures out.

SNIP

Pity for them and for me.


....All them have just told me they have a denture, that is fake teeth with plastic palate. In this forum why is nobody talking about this issue of the pinays?

SNIP

How can you like and fuck girls with dentures?Whatever it is that you are smoking, I want some of that! Maybe you see dragons in the kitchen and unicorns in the bathroom too?

Member #4387
03-12-16, 18:21
I'm talking with many beautiful and sweet girls on the net in Manila. All them have just told me they have a denture, that is fake teeth with plastic palate. In this forum why is nobody talking about this issue of the pinays?

I think it is an important problem for a beautiful girl. Maybe do all you like to kiss girls with denture with plastic palates? Only me I don't like to kiss fake teeth? How can you like and fuck girls with dentures?You obviously hunt amongst the bottom feeder girls. You will encounter dental issues amongst that peer. On the other hand you seem to have quite some issues urself so you might sort them out before you arrive into phils bcs mental issues and phils doesn't mix. I rest my case.

X Man
03-12-16, 22:49
Good report. It sounds like you're having fun. If you find the time, can you give us an update on Heritage Hotel. In the past reviews it was generally thought to be poor value for the cost. X.



SNIP I went to EDSA Entertainment complex right at opening time 7:00 pm. I ended up at Pitstop because of the reviews and I was thoroughly impressed by the girls I saw there and at the other bars as well.
SNIP

In summary, I really like EDSA. I wish I had another day to spend more time there. I will on the way back.

WestCoast1
03-13-16, 01:40
From a little time I'm noticing it is very hard to find a girl with good teth. It is incredible really. I am sad for that reality but it is hard for me to kiss such girls with fake teeth. I regret I have just bought a ticket for the Philippines because I did not know that denture problems of the pinays. Pity for them and for me.Many people in poor countries have fake teeth (Indonesia, too). Often times you will never know if a girl has dentures. I like to sex those with, and without. For those with dentures, sometimes I sex them with the dentures, then later without. Variety IS the spice of life?

Morsels: One of the hotties in this pic has fake teeth. See what I have to put up with?

Member #4387
03-13-16, 01:52
Morsels: One of the hotties in this pic has fake teeth. See what I have to put up with?You poor thing Westie. There should be a hotline aka 911 you could call if you run into more of them fake teeths.

WestCoast1
03-13-16, 03:24
You poor thing Westie. There should be a hotline aka 911 you could call if you run into more of them fake teeths."911-Fake-Teeth. What's your emergency?" Um this hot pinay just keeps giving me BJ's and swallowing my cum. But I think she has dentures. "It was a bad experience for you, sir?" No, it was one of the great moments of my life. Send more like her, ok?

Smile.

NewImage
03-13-16, 10:33
I have been to EDSA complex the last three nights. I recall seeing a "disco" sign inside and stairs leading up, but did not try it out. I do know that the bars stay open until 3 am. There are not many customers at EDSA, even on a Friday night between 7-9 so I doubt that disco would be a good place to go. Without men to buy them drinks and take them home, girls have no reason to go there. And, at 3 am, they mostly just want to go home. Once you visit EDSA for yourself, you will see that it isn't exactly in the middle of things.

Let me know if you find out any more information on the disco. I just can't see it being a good place to go.Hey Salty Pete. Quick 2 questions re EDSA. ST equals one pop and go or 2/3 hours? - What's normal?

Prefer 2/3 hrs rather than quick pop and go.

What are Lady drinks prices?

Appreciate your advice. Arrive 2 wks.

WestCoast1
03-13-16, 15:54
Can move her dentures? Do you like a rickety denture? May be is it sexier to kiss a girl with a rickety denture?Never ran into a girl with a 'rickety' denture. Listen, if the girl does not specifically tell you (or show you) that she has dentures (called 'fake teeth' in Phils), then you will not be aware that she has dentures. The 'fake teeth' don't rattle around inside her mouth while you are kissing her or getting a BJ. They are solid and feel like teeth.

On the other hand, pinay do seem to have both the worst teeth (alignment) and hands / feet ("well-weathered" might be the correct term) I've run into anywhere.


I read many posts about you fuck and get blowjobs with girls with fake teeth but nobody tell if it is pleasant to kiss those girls. I mean hot and deep kisses.DFK? You must be 25/ guapo. Good luck with that. Regular girls (FB) who agree to spend the night with you are not going to DFK with you until they get to know you well and see you as a friend and / or sugar-daddy. On your second or third visit maybe, after meeting the family.

SaltyPete
03-14-16, 03:33
Hey Salty Pete. Quick 2 questions re EDSA. ST equals one pop and go or 2/3 hours? - What's normal?

Prefer 2/3 hrs rather than quick pop and go.

What are Lady drinks prices?

Appreciate your advice. Arrive 2 wks.I hate to admit this but I did not look at how much a lady drink was although I brought plenty. If you really want to impress the girl (and I know some will ask "why try to impress a working girl? Because it is a cheap investment that pays dividends later) then offer to buy her some food off the menu that the touts bring around.

If I return this trip I will post LD prices. Someone here can probably fill you in.

ST is generally considered one pop but you do not have to rush. She plans to be there 2-3 hours. You may have time to take her out for a bite or drink first. You can always negotiate two pops.

Someone once said that the key to girls is to treat a princess like a working girl, and a working girl like a princess. A little respect goes a long way.

WestCoast1
03-14-16, 04:58
I'm talking on the net with a beautiful girl for one week and she is with 3 fake teeth and 2 wobbly teeth. I'm a bit worry ahaha because she cannot wait to kiss me many times every day. Maybe not all girls are the same. Looking at her pics on Facebook she seems a regular girl, not freelancer.Quite possibly a regular gal. Must ask: How do you know about her teeth? Seems an odd topic for her to bring up, unless she's hinting that she needs new dentures?

WazWallaby
03-15-16, 11:19
My mongering experiences are full of dating sites, since I am not into bar hoping as some other fellow mongers does. In whatever cover, once the girl arrive in my room I always compensate the girl with money.

For Philippine, some girls no money, some asks to be compensated in different way; some asks straight. But scammers! I am fortunate I met none. If any girl ask money before hand of first meeting, I just cut off her. It does not make any sense sending money to some one whom we never met. My success rate I would say (I made Philippine tour twice only in 2015) I would say highly satisfied. Only one failure I get, when I arrive in manila, it was shown she is in Samar. But I would not say it is a failure because it is been confirmed by her that we are going to meet in my next tour. May be I get the success just because of my age limit; since I don't bother to answer less than age of 28 yrs. It is just my taste. More over I choose those girls around the city I am going to travel. Study the map before hand and make my clear idea how much she might be going to spend to meet me. If she is so far, I just don't bother.

As per reading the reports of fellow mongers about dating sites, now I can realize it might be depends on the person's perspective. The girls we met in dating sites I can say 80% are not from P4 P scene. They have own social existence, might be in hunt of their survivals. So it will be wise to safe there faces in any cover like relationship or natural human feelings. But it is necessary to be truthful to them; at least making a clear hint what may going to happen after the first meet.

Be sure good compensation would safe the face of both side.That's all good advice there Mua Tur. Well said. I am more than happy to be upfront and honest, some girls disappear, others hang around. Good. Also, I am more than happy to compensate well, and also happy to keep on seeing girls I am comfortable with instead of totting up a number of fucks. Though having said that, am also happy to see new gals each day sometimes. Just going with how I feel and what the gals are like day 2 day.

WilBel
03-16-16, 12:49
Does Red Planet Makati is girls friendly like can any girl just walk-in after showing the ID and stay or any limitations?

LaserNut
03-17-16, 05:30
Does Red Planet Makati is girls friendly like can any girl just walk-in after showing the ID and stay or any limitations?I've been to the Tune Hotels in Makati, Manila and Cebu City and all were girl friendly. The security guard checks the girl's ID to make sure she is of age then enters her name in a visitors log. With the ownership and name change to Red Planet I believe that the same policies are in force. I've seen some girls sign in then go straight to the elevator unaccompanied.

LN.

George03
03-18-16, 02:02
I know this is a long shot, but I was on the phone for almost two hours today with a technical issue. I recognized the accent, so I asked her where she is from. Right there in Manila! I loved the voice, at the end I told her she knows my email address. Of course, she didn't say anything, but, who knows, maybe a new way to meet Filipinos. She has to call me back tomorrow anyway as a follow up, so maybe another reminder that she has my email and phone number!

Soapy Smith
03-18-16, 05:27
I know this is a long shot, but I was on the phone for almost two hours today with a technical issue. I recognized the accent, so I asked her where she is from. Right there in Manila! I loved the voice, at the end I told her she knows my email address. Of course, she didn't say anything, but, who knows, maybe a new way to meet Filipinos. She has to call me back tomorrow anyway as a follow up, so maybe another reminder that she has my email and phone number!I have my doubts. Their supervisors probably randomly monitor their calls, and most would not want to risk losing these jobs. Yes, for anybody who has spent time in the Phils, the accent is unmistakable. I sometimes make small talk about weather, where they are in the Phils, and maybe a few words in Filipino. But they often laugh nervously and seem to want to end the conversation. I have always assumed they are nervous about their calls being monitored. And they can't even see me so don't see that I am old and ugly.

Sxxxx
03-18-16, 06:17
I know this is a long shot, but I was on the phone for almost two hours today with a technical issue. I recognized the accent, so I asked her where she is from. Right there in Manila! I loved the voice, at the end I told her she knows my email address. Of course, she didn't say anything, but, who knows, maybe a new way to meet Filipinos. She has to call me back tomorrow anyway as a follow up, so maybe another reminder that she has my email and phone number!Few weeks ago, I had the same kind of phone call / issue, and response from call center girl. Their conversations are monitored and they would not risk their jobs. Don't hold on, nothing will happen.

BrainDrain
03-18-16, 11:22
I know this is a long shot, but I was on the phone for almost two hours today with a technical issue. I recognized the accent, so I asked her where she is from. Right there in Manila! I loved the voice, at the end I told her she knows my email address. Of course, she didn't say anything, but, who knows, maybe a new way to meet Filipinos. She has to call me back tomorrow anyway as a follow up, so maybe another reminder that she has my email and phone number!When I was on the phone with my Australia ISP the call center agent was based in Ortigas, and I was visiting Ortigas in the following week and their call center was right opposite my hotel. We had exchange mobile numbers, I think she included it in her confirmation email in the course of business. I did meet with her one lunch time. She was changing jobs, had husband, nothing seemed to work out.

So, certainly you can obtain mobile numbers, and you can meet them.

Happy days.

BD.

Hutsori
03-19-16, 06:17
I know this is a long shot, but I was on the phone for almost two hours today with a technical issue. I recognized the accent, so I asked her where she is from. Right there in Manila! I loved the voice, at the end I told her she knows my email address. Of course, she didn't say anything, but, who knows, maybe a new way to meet Filipinos. She has to call me back tomorrow anyway as a follow up, so maybe another reminder that she has my email and phone number!Unless you try you'll never know. It isn't as if she can reach through the receiver and slap your face. Of course neither of you have any idea what the other looks like, so any emotional connection is based on voice, rapport and imagination.

I know a bit about the biz. It's all about meeting the service-level agreement, and metrics are reported to the customer often, in some cases several times a day. Supervisors are most attentive to the customer wait queue, the agent handle time, and caller satisfaction; they are usually the key performance indicators. Calls are recorded and randomly monitored live. New employees and those who are not meeting the metrics are monitored more heavily. The type of business dictates supervisor attention. A tech support call is very different from a bank account inquiry, and those hired to do cold-call sales are given a lot more freedom to be flirty if that makes the sale. When a call handle time goes beyond the performance metric, for instance 5 minutes, a supervisor may be alerted automagically. Employees who routinely exceed the norm will receive more attention and corrective training; if the training doesn't stick the agent is dismissed.

If you want to chat up an agent find out how long she's worked there, what's the established call handle time, and how busy they are at the time.

In conclusion I'll add agents get hit on a lot, but it's almost always guys living overseas, so if you're in the Philippines and near her office you may have the element of intrigue in your favour. And call centres employ a lot of transgenders, gays and lesbians.

Dg8787
03-19-16, 07:29
Not this would be your result.

The call center agents story reminded me of one incident years ago. A female friend of mind had asked me if I would go to a bar with her. I normally don't go to bars. This was one as part of the restaurant which was a grill house. I ask why she was going and she replied that her friend was going to meet a guy that she had been talking to over the phone for the past few weeks. Her friend had some kind of job answering the phone. I reluctantly went.

My friend and I went together and were to meet them at the bar. We were a little bit late and both had arrived already. Things were not going too well for them. I was sitting next to the guy. After about 10 minutes he tells me he is looking for an excuse to leave. He says she lied to him about her appearances, weight and age. She was on the thick side. I guess he went outside to have a cizgarette and never came back. The girl on the other hand was pissed that he didn't match up to his description that he had told her. LOL. I guess you could politely say they oversold each other!

George03
03-20-16, 17:50
We had a long time on hold due taking time to download software, etc. Over an hour and 1 /1/2. She actually called back this weekend later than she was supposed to. I am in my 50's but still seem to be able to attract Asians, no problem at all will Filipinos. She had to log in to my computer, I had some pics on the screen. Will make it obvious next week. Anyway, I just dropped subtle hints, hey, you know my email. The next time, you know my phone number. And yes, even if I did meet her, she might not look as sexy as the voice. Then plan be would be in effect.

Again, I know most of the reasons why his is a long shot, but mostly wondered if anyone else had been able to break through.


Unless you try you'll never know. It isn't as if she can reach through the receiver and slap your face. Of course neither of you have any idea what the other looks like, so any emotional connection is based on voice, rapport and imagination.

I know a bit about the biz. It's all about meeting the service-level agreement, and metrics are reported to the customer often, in some cases several times a day. Supervisors are most attentive to the customer wait queue, the agent handle time, and caller satisfaction; they are usually the key performance indicators. Calls are recorded and randomly monitored live. New employees and those who are not meeting the metrics are monitored more heavily. The type of business dictates supervisor attention. A tech support call is very different from a bank account inquiry, and those hired to do cold-call sales are given a lot more freedom to be flirty if that makes the sale. When a call handle time goes beyond the performance metric, for instance 5 minutes, a supervisor may be alerted automagically. Employees who routinely exceed the norm will receive more attention and corrective training; if the training doesn't stick the agent is dismissed.

If you want to chat up an agent find out how long she's worked there, what's the established call handle time, and how busy they are at the time.

In conclusion I'll add agents get hit on a lot, but it's almost always guys living overseas, so if you're in the Philippines and near her office you may have the element of intrigue in your favour. And call centres employ a lot of transgenders, gays and lesbians.

BYourself
03-21-16, 20:58
Hi,

I'm planning to be in Manila for 3-4 days next month.

I've used to know that site whorist.com but it seems to be closed now.

I've been only in Thailand so far and I was wondering about Manila.

Are there any nude strip clubs?

Where can I find not old girls?

Where should I go and how?

Is there a map? Is there recommended hotel?

Please help!

Wicked Roger
03-22-16, 05:31
Hi,

I'm planning to be in Manila for 3-4 days next month.

I've used to know that site whorist.com but it seems to be closed now.

I've been only in Thailand so far and I was wondering about Manila.

Are there any nude strip clubs?

Where can I find not old girls?

Where should I go and how?

Is there a map? Is there recommended hotel?

Please help!Your other FR was in Bangladesh with a similar question and a translator request. Why not RTFF as this forum has so much information you can wag a lodger at and let us know what you found and where you went.

But by the tone of your FR I suspect you are not cut out for Philippines as I suspect the rampant drug planting on foreigners, the bullet scam at the airport, the LBs that flock and harass the foreigners in Manila plus all the other scams will make you a nervous wreck within the first hour of being here.

Leave all this to the professionals LOL.

Sammon
03-22-16, 11:25
Hi,

I'm planning to be in Manila for 3-4 days next month.

I've used to know that site whorist.com but it seems to be closed now.

I've been only in Thailand so far and I was wondering about Manila.

Are there any nude strip clubs?

Where can I find not old girls?

Where should I go and how?

Is there a map? Is there recommended hotel?

Please help!READ THE FORUM FIRST. All info are there.

After reading it thoroughly if you have any intelligent questions we can help you!

BYourself
03-22-16, 12:19
READ THE FORUM FIRST. All info are there.

After reading it thoroughly if you have any intelligent questions we can help you!Hi Sammon,

Thanks for your help!

I've been wondering if there are any nude strip clubs in Manila like in Bangkok, and if Angeles City would be the right spot?

I prefer ladies, petite looking girls with GFE experience.

CallSign Papa
03-22-16, 17:08
Hey no problem, I'll book a flight to Manila, make a hotel reservation, spend 9 hours on a flight, a week in Manila with all of the associated costs, including the time and energy it takes to build up quality contacts. I'll fuck girls, I'll take notes, I'll do all the leg work.

And then I'll write a report about it so that you (who have never been) can get more information about what you'll need to know if you're going to Manila for pussy.

Oh wait a sec. Me and about 150 guys already did that OVER AND OVER AGAIN. How lazy or dumb are you that the concept of "Search posts" is too much to consider?

WR, it appears the Manager class have found out it's more fun in the Phillipines.


Hi Sammon,

Thanks for your help!

I've been wondering if there are any nude strip clubs in Manila like in Bangkok, and if Angeles City would be the right spot?

I prefer ladies, petite looking girls with GFE experience.

Conan23
03-22-16, 17:47
Hi Sammon,

Thanks for your help!

I've been wondering if there are any nude strip clubs in Manila like in Bangkok, and if Angeles City would be the right spot?

I prefer ladies, petite looking girls with GFE experience.Manila or Angeles is not the place for nude strip clubs but is the place for petite GFE. I am not sure of your experience but the weather is freaking hot and humid. In addition, Manila is a traffic nightmare. I would keep it simple go to Angeles, spend some money stay at ABC Hotel so you can step out of the hotel and walk 20 feet to the first bars.

Hutsori
03-22-16, 18:09
Again, I know most of the reasons why his is a long shot, but mostly wondered if anyone else had been able to break through.If she's taking an interest in you and not just your computer problem I say give it a crack. You don't have to live under all your homeland's social conventions. It's the Philippines, thank god.

I hope it works out. Another commentator gave an account of a fella just walking out on girl, which seems to me unsporting. If there's no chemistry still enjoy a drink or meal, have a chat, and say your farewells. At the very least you get a story out of it.

Best wishes.

Sxxxx
03-23-16, 03:23
.............................WR, it appears the Manager class have found out it's more fun in the Phillipines.Yes, I suspect he is another 'Manager'. Good indication. No $20 PM and only questions as his posts. Unfortunately the Phil girls are going to take some time before they realise who / what they are dealing with.

Blanquiceleste
03-29-16, 14:26
Hey no problem, I'll book a flight to Manila, make a hotel reservation, spend 9 hours on a flight, a week in Manila with all of the associated costs, including the time and energy it takes to build up quality contacts. I'll fuck girls, I'll take notes, I'll do all the leg work.

And then I'll write a report about it so that you (who have never been) can get more information about what you'll need to know if you're going to Manila for pussy.

Oh wait a sec. Me and about 150 guys already did that OVER AND OVER AGAIN. How lazy or dumb are you that the concept of "Search posts" is too much to consider?

WR, it appears the Manager class have found out it's more fun in the Phillipines.It is annoying indeed. I receive so many PMs asking me for "contacts or digits of independents" and "best places for spa and massage" that I am seriously considering turning off the facility to preserve my sanity. What will it take to get this simple concept of RTFF into their thick skulls? Further, you will not see a SINGLE report from these scumbags, detailing their trips, if any.

BYourself
03-29-16, 16:42
It is annoying indeed. I receive so many PMs asking me for "contacts or digits of independents" and "best places for spa and massage" that I am seriously considering turning off the facility to preserve my sanity. What will it take to get this simple concept of RTFF into their thick skulls? Further, you will not see a SINGLE report from these scumbags, detailing their trips, if any.I'd love to provide report in 3 weeks once I'm there.

I don't know if it matters to you, the problem is that this forum is one huge thread. I'm trying to read, and I would love to get information without bothering anyone.

Thing is. Its like getting in the middle of conversation. Like you go 10 pages back and you see someone report on girl number 14. From where is the number 14? Is there a catalog? How did he get there? How do I get there?

Should I read from page one? Which page is relevant to know which hotels are good, which seasons, how to talk with taxis, where are the good and the bad places?

I'm truly sorry. Please point me to the right place in here to ask newbie questions, I have only 1.5 weeks in south east Asia in 3 weeks.

So without a good research. My report will be "gush I wasted my money, but I was in the wrong city in the wrong time" etc.

All I'm asking is some guidance. Like that old site whorist.com that pointed out to the do and don't.

G Haribo
03-29-16, 18:42
At the time I'm writing this report, I just got scammed by a wechat "girl". Did not know that it would be similar in the Philippines as in China.
She uses the nickname of "Jenjen Dee" around Ortigas, and I was actually the one who got in touch with her, when I saw all the pic that looked genuine. We agreed on the deal of 2000 pesos.
When she came and knocked on my hotel door, she was with another girlfriend and I was not sure, but she looked like a ladyboy. Completely different from the photos she sent me.

At that time I was already disgusted. I told that I booked only one girl, and she said that her friend was here for safety, and would be waiting in the bathroom.
I smelled something fishy and told them to leave. Then, the other girl decided to go away and only "Jenjen Dee" stayed.
After entering in the room, She told me the service would be only handjob, BBBJ and massage and mentioned she was only 17 yo. I realized that I did not ask for full service during the wechat conversation and did not ask for her age.

Finally I asked her to leave and she asked for the 2000 Pesos as the deal. I responded there was no service, so I will only pay for the taxi fee.
The tension started to grow and I was tired after a long day. Finally, I decided to save myself from any trouble, being in a foreign country with a "17 years old" in my room.
So I gave her the 2000 Pesos and told her to leave immediately.

In conclusion, I was stupid to think that using Wechat would be different in the Philippines. This lesson costed me 2000 Pesos. But I'm happy that she quickly left.
Be very careful when using wechat to call for a girl. In fact you should avoid it, and go to the bar to see the girl directly.
If you want to use wechat, please be specific on the service, ask for the age and the best is to make a video call to make sure that the girl is real and really look like the photo.

JPF
03-29-16, 20:14
At the time I'm writing this report, I just got scammed by a wechat "girl". Thanks for the warning. As a simple precaution you should meet anyone you are unsure of outside of your hotel. Then you can walk away if things don't look right.

Dg8787
03-29-16, 22:00
Thanks for the warning. As a simple precaution you should meet anyone you are unsure of outside of your hotel. Then you can walk away if things don't look right.Never give out room number.

Meet them in the lobby or front door first.

Have the doorman / security prep first to check girl's ID upon arrival. No ID no entry. Have doorman prep with signal from you to not allow the girl in. Of course most punters will be too cheap to tip the doorman in advance for this and will end up being scammed for a lot more.

Hutsori
03-30-16, 04:26
Thing is. Its like getting in the middle of conversation. Like you go 10 pages backGo back a year or two and start from there.


and you see someone report on girl number 14. From where is the number 14? Is there a catalog? How did he get there? How do I get there?Girl number 14 was likely a FR by simpatico(?). You can click the commentator's name and next click the link to all the comments written by the person. Look for girl number 1, start reading, and once done proceed in numeric sequence to the next.


Should I read from page one? Which page is relevant to know which hotels are good, which seasons, how to talk with taxis, where are the good and the bad places?Starting at page 1 may be going too far back. Go back a year or so. That will cover the seasonal changes. And for, "How to talk to taxis," I find "Driver, take me to _____ please" usually works. Pro tip: Don't forget to ask him to turn on the meter. Now you have that sorted.


My report will be "gush I wasted my money, but I was in the wrong city in the wrong time" etc.Still could be a good report. It may serve as a warning to others. See GHaribo's FR for an example of this.

Hutsori
03-30-16, 04:37
When she came and knocked on my hotel door,Odd that she walked right past the front desk and hopped into the lift. Don't rely on attentiveness by the front desk and security. Dg gives good advice. To re-emphasise, I'll reiterate one should conduct a video chat with the girl before giving out your particulars; you've come to this understanding on your own, so well done.

Anyway, now you have a near-miss story about almost sucking a fella's bell end another near-miss story of underaged. You've maximised your learning quite efficiently. Strike those off the bucket list. Welcome to the Philippines.

Cool
03-30-16, 14:36
Club Asia in AC has some of the thinnest talent. They may have 4 "8's" in the lineup. They are semi-picky.


Hey no problem, I'll book a flight to Manila, make a hotel reservation, spend 9 hours on a flight, a week in Manila with all of the associated costs, including the time and energy it takes to build up quality contacts. I'll fuck girls, I'll take notes, I'll do all the leg work.

And then I'll write a report about it so that you (who have never been) can get more information about what you'll need to know if you're going to Manila for pussy.

Oh wait a sec. Me and about 150 guys already did that OVER AND OVER AGAIN. How lazy or dumb are you that the concept of "Search posts" is too much to consider?

WR, it appears the Manager class have found out it's more fun in the Phillipines.

Blanquiceleste
03-30-16, 15:50
And for, "How to talk to taxis," I find "Driver, take me to _____ please" usually works. Pro tip: Don't forget to ask him to turn on the meter. Now you have that sorted.
This pro tip reminds me of a time I got scammed by a taxi driver. I have been to the Philippines enough number of times to know how to talk to a taxi driver and what to check before we zoom off.

Now I wanted to go from Century Park to LA Cafe, a short ride up Mabini Street, rough cost around 70 pesos by taxi. It was afternoon and it was hot. So I waved down a taxi, asked the driver if he would go to LA Cafe, asked if he would go by meter (he nodded in affirmative), got inside in the passenger seat and off we went. Now I noticed that the driver had a small hand towel draped over the dashboard that covered the meter panel as well. I thought this was an indigenous and harmless way to keep the dashboard from overheating in the afternoon sun.

When we reached LA Cafe and I handed the driver 70 pesos, he pulled off the towel and showed me the meter panel which displayed a princely sum of 160 pesos. Dang! I had been scammed! No way out but to pay him the 160 pesos.

Lesson learnt. Make sure the meter is reset in front of you before starting your trip. Again, this does not mean the meter isn't doctored to pile up the pesos faster than it should, but its a useful tip.

Hutsori
03-30-16, 18:15
This pro tip reminds me of a time I got scammed by a taxi driver. I have been to the Philippines enough number of times to know how to talk to a taxi driver and what to check before we zoom off.

When we reached LA Cafe and I handed the driver 70 pesos, he pulled off the towel and showed me the meter panel which displayed a princely sum of 160 pesos. Dang! I had been scammed! No way out but to pay him the 160 pesos.

Lesson learnt. Make sure the meter is reset in front of you before starting your trip. Again, this does not mean the meter isn't doctored to pile up the pesos faster than it should, but its a useful tip.That's happened to me, too. 160 pesos isn't so painful. I think the worst I was nailed for was p440; drunk at 5 am and with a bird, so I was distracted. The Philippines requires one to focus his intent. Situational awareness makes it less likely you'll be taken advantage of.

Soapy Smith
03-31-16, 06:10
That's happened to me, too. 160 pesos isn't so painful. I think the worst I was nailed for was p440; drunk at 5 am and with a bird, so I was distracted. The Philippines requires one to focus his intent. Situational awareness makes it less likely you'll be taken advantage of.About three years ago I was with a bird who similarly got cheated. This was in the morning and no alcohol was involved. She and I parted ways near the Ermita Church, she climbed into a nearby cab and went to UN Ave LRT station, a maximum five minute ride. At the end he told her 200 pesos. When she asked why, he told her, "because you were with a foreigner, and I saw him give you money. " She made several mistakes. Did not check whether meter was running. Got into a waiting taxi, whose driver saw me with her and saw me give her money, rather than flagging one down. Many taxi drivers waiting at the curb, especially in monger areas, are opportunists waiting to spring.

Jp Slicky
03-31-16, 06:37
Twice in Manila I was charged a 70 peso rush-hour surcharge in addition to the meter.

Not much but I was scammed?

The first time I did not mind since I just got done waiting 2. 5 hours for a taxi at terminal 3.

I walked to the road at entrance and caught a scam cab.

WestCoast1
03-31-16, 06:58
Twice in Manila I was charged a 70 peso rush-hour surcharge in addition to the meter.

Not much but I was scammed?

The first time I did not mind since I just got done waiting 2. 5 hours for a taxi at terminal 3.

I walked to the road at entrance and caught a scam cab.That's not a scam. Once traffic is heavy, most drivers won't go long distance (say, Malate to Makati) without insisting on 50-100 over the meter. They do this up-front. While they can make a profit on a shorter ride, the driver also realizes he might not get a fare coming back from Makati to Malate, and must make up the non-customer return trip in some way.

GoodEnough
03-31-16, 07:07
That's not a scam. Once traffic is heavy, most drivers won't go long distance (say, Malate to Makati) without insisting on 50-100 over the meter. They do this up-front. While they can make a profit on a shorter ride, the driver also realizes he might not get a fare coming back from Makati to Malate, and must make up the non-customer return trip in some way.A perfect argument for the use of Uber, which is what I used just last week from the same terminal.

Hutsori
03-31-16, 09:51
That's not a scam. Once traffic is heavy, most drivers won't go long distance (say, Malate to Makati) without insisting on 50-100 over the meter. They do this up-front. While they can make a profit on a shorter ride, the driver also realizes he might not get a fare coming back from Makati to Malate, and must make up the non-customer return trip in some way.Technically it's a scam because it's unlawful, but once illegal acts become commonplace it's fait accompli. By and large I've experienced few problems with drivers using meters provided I remind some to turn them on within the first moments of the commute. Those who do not want to will start to negotiate a higher fare, and at that moment we can either reach a happy agreement or I'll ask him to pull over to exit. If at all possible, avoid traveling during rush hours and inclement weather to minimise these experiences.

OneShoe
03-31-16, 14:51
Thank you ISG for the guidance! Quick report on a weekend in Manila.

I was in Manila a couple months ago for work. I have been meaning to post but kept forgetting. In general, I like Manila (this was my first time there). Filipinos are very nice and I find Filipinos quite attractive. The food isn't bad but is generally unhealthy.

Saturday.

Had the weekend to myself and Saturday night went to Burgos St. Bottoms bar. Arrived at 10 PM on a Saturday and was expecting it to be busy. Not at all. There were a handful of guys and many many ladies. The mama showed up and pulled over literally the hottest girl in the place.

Short hair, big eyes, sexy pouty lips and a curvy body. I think her name was Mina but it is blurry at this point. Hard to communicate as it was loud and her English was spotty for a Filipino. I was pretty much sold on the spot but had to play the game for a bit. I have to say that bottoms is pushy on the drinks / tips / whatever side. Everyone has their hand out. I have lived in Asia long enough and make enough that I don't stress on it in general but the bottoms crew is a bit obnoxious in my opinion. Anyway by the time I pulled got out of there with Mina in tow it was slightly less than 11,000 PHP all in (including her fee).

Get her back to my hotel (walking distance). Chat for a bit then on to the action. I knew the chemistry wasn't there on her side from the time in the bar but physically she was just my type. I have had a couple Japanese girls that were hotter but not much else. Anyway, separate showers then get her on to the bed. She would kiss but not much into it. Her body wasn't as perfect as her face but still not bad. No BBBJ but at that point I didn't care as I just wanted to fuck her anyway haha.

Pretty pussy on her. DATY a bit and then popped it in. She was tight! Maybe second or third tightest girl I have ever had. The sex was good and she was much more active (kissing, grabbing me) while I was pounding her. Afterwards, immediately super business like. I inquired about a second round or LT and she said 3,500 PHP. Honestly, I would have happily paid as I was still horny but her attitude annoyed off and told her no. As she was leaving she asked for 100 PHP for a cab and I just rolled my eyes and closed the door (this was right after I handed over 5 K). Oh well, almost awesome.

Sunday.

I was annoyed from the previous night and feeling lazy. Decided to take a different strategy and after a bit of research booked Ruby from Manila Courtesans. The booking was really easy. Basically live chat through their site and then the booking lady called my hotel to make sure I was a guest. Talked to her on the phone for a minute and that was that. Lot of options on the site but my first choice wasn't working that day. Total fee was 7 K for two hours (but just one pop).

Ruby shows up (on time!) and is definitely the girl in the pics but of course she is much cuter in the pics. After she shows up she immediately says she has to relieve herself and asks if she can use the bathroom. Comes out and we chat for 45 minutes. Very interesting girl. Spent half the time on the famous Filipino heartbreak story and the other half talking about dicks. Too big, too small, too smelly. This was all her doing but was quite amusing. She would have kept talking the whole time but I just started taking off my clothes and she got the hint. No shower for either of us (she said she showered before she came and I showered right before she arrived).

Cute girl and OK body but not really my type. Not going to bother to describe her much as you can just Google the info I gave you if you are curious. She didn't really seem to be that into me either.

Once again the sex was good. She really came alive once my dick was inside her. Also, quite tight though not as tight as the Mina from the night before. Very wet and passionate. No complaints.

Afterwards I asked if it was one pop or multiple. She was like 'only one' and oh well. Chatted a bit more (she talked about the pros and cons of my dick; pro: it doesn't smell! - con: too hairy! Paid her and she left.

Summary: Much less GFE than I was expecting but some definite positives. I like the way PH girls look and the sex was really good despite the lack of chemistry. Next time I plan to try somewhere outside of Manila.

FunForUnMe
03-31-16, 21:59
Thank you ISG for the guidance! Quick report on a weekend in Manila.

I was in Manila a couple months ago for work. I have been meaning to post but kept forgetting. In general, I like Manila (this was my first time there). Filipinos are very nice and I find Filipinos quite attractive. The food isn't bad but is generally unhealthy.

Saturday.

Had the weekend to myself and Saturday night went to Burgos St. Bottoms bar. Arrived at 10 PM on a Saturday and was expecting it to be busy. Not at all. There were a handful of guys and many many ladies. The mama showed up and pulled over literally the hottest girl in the place.

Short hair, big eyes, sexy pouty lips and a curvy body. I think her name was Mina but it is blurry at this point. Hard to communicate as it was loud and her English was spotty for a Filipino. I was pretty much sold on the spot but had to play the game for a bit. I have to say that bottoms is pushy on the drinks / tips / whatever side. Everyone has their hand out. I have lived in Asia long enough and make enough that I don't stress on it in general but the bottoms crew is a bit obnoxious in my opinion. Anyway by the time I pulled got out of there with Mina in tow it was slightly less than 11,000 PHP all in (including her fee).

e outside of Manila.WTF. The first girl really screwed you. I got many girls from EDSA without bar fine from Sahar zaad and never paid anything extra. Also, girls never behave like this with me ever. Just visit there after 12:00 pm and you will get so many selection.

Enjoy your trip to Manila, I will soon join next month with my Filipino girl friend. I am now in love with her.

Soapy Smith
04-01-16, 05:22
That's not a scam. Once traffic is heavy, most drivers won't go long distance (say, Malate to Makati) without insisting on 50-100 over the meter. They do this up-front. While they can make a profit on a shorter ride, the driver also realizes he might not get a fare coming back from Makati to Malate, and must make up the non-customer return trip in some way.Another way to think of this, if it's not more than this, is that he's bargaining the size of his tip. When I negotiate an up-fare I usually do not tip anything additional.

Lefeu
04-01-16, 05:44
Technically it's a scam because it's unlawful, but once illegal acts become commonplace it's fait accompli. By and large I've experienced few problems with drivers using meters provided I remind some to turn them on within the first moments of the commute. Those who do not want to will start to negotiate a higher fare, and at that moment we can either reach a happy agreement or I'll ask him to pull over to exit. If at all possible, avoid traveling during rush hours and inclement weather to minimise these experiences.Maybe it's unlawful but I sympathize with their plight. One day, I tried to catch a taxi from Makati to Quezon City. No less than 4 drivers said no. Finally, the 5th one seemed eager for business but asked how much I would give him. I replied how much do you want? I liked his answer and off we went. This half hour trip ended up being 1. 5 hours, and it was brutal. That's when I understood what these poor folks have to deal with. Felt so lucky that I did not have to make a living that way.

On the way back, the same story but this time I was prepared and negotiated better.

X Man
04-01-16, 08:21
It has been reported here that LA Cafe tends to have a lot of fugly high mileage women who ask for too much. I can't disagree with that. Nevertheless, I got lucky a few weeks ago. I spotted a lady sitting alone in a dark corner. She looked good with those large Filipina lips (the ones on her face). We talked a while, and she seemed nice enough. I wasn't sure about the body, but when she finally stood up I could see she was fairly tall and slim. Wonderful! She is in her early 20's and has one child.

She agreed to come to my room but we never talked about money. She stayed for the next two nights and let me have as much as I wanted. She was just naturally horny. During sex she constantly played with her clit, which was a bit annoying after a while. But who am I to complain? A couple of times I noticed she was playing with herself even though we were in between sessions. I started to tease her about how her finger muscles in her right hand were much bigger than her left hand.

Of course I slipped some cash into her bag and I bought her a piece of clothing. Her compensation was about P4000. Honestly, I don't think the compensation was much of an issue with her. I'm guessing she goes to LA Cafe once in a while because she wants to have sex with a foreigner. Looking at some of her online photos shows she's not the typical poor gal living in a shack. As they say, it's more fun in the Philippines. X.

Hutsori
04-01-16, 08:31
It has been reported here that LA Cafe tends to have a lot of fugly high mileage women who ask for too much. I can't disagree with that. Nevertheless, I got lucky a few weeks ago. I spotted a lady sitting alone in a dark corner. She looked good with those large Filipina lips (the ones on her face). We talked a while, and she seemed nice enough. I wasn't sure about the body, but when she finally stood up I could see she was fairly tall and slim. Wonderful! She is in her early 20's and has one child.

As they say, it's more fun in the Philippines. X.Yes, there are still attractive ones who appear, but compared to years ago the gaggle of Pinays it attracts is less visually appealing. If it were still the great place it once was I'd be quite upset by its closing.

Anyway, I look forward to LA Cafe's closing party tonight. It's sure to be an enormous blow out; I have 28 years experience in the getting shitfaced game, so trust me. I still don't understand why Mayor Estrada ordered it closed as well as G Point and Amazonia. It'll be interesting to see whether or not a new, better politically connected owner with deeper pockets opens a place in Ermita, or will all the girls relocate to a bar in Pasay, as what happened when Mayor Lim shuttered all the go-go bars years ago.

The passing of a landmark institution is always a sad day. The millions of litres of cum ejaculated due to that glorious place. Fantastic. I remember when Hollywood legend Martin Landau showed up one night and had three tarts sucking him off atop centre bar. It was once the 'in place' for stars and royalty to visit and hobnob, but those days are long gone. Now it's just minor figures like Ant and Dec and Harry Hewitt. There shall be many fond reminiscences exchanged tonight by the old hands.

Cool
04-01-16, 10:24
You should have retired with two lovelies. That is a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). My last trip to EDSA wasn't smooth because I got saddled with her "friend". Damage was a healthy tip to both girls (didn't bang the other one) and breakfast for the other one since breakfast for 2 was included. They were so greedy they raided the snack bar which isn't the value it is in AC and complained about the Heritage buffet. I suspect Heritage hotel staff was in on it. I think Heritage buffet for the 3rd wheel is 800 pisos. I find the Manila girls are more liberal with time and LT means LT. Whereas some hotties in AC try to bounce within 1-3 hrs.


WTF. The first girl really screwed you. I got many girls from EDSA without bar fine from Sahar zaad and never paid anything extra. Also, girls never behave like this with me ever. Just visit there after 12:00 pm and you will get so many selection.

Enjoy your trip to Manila, I will soon join next month with my Filipino girl friend. I am now in love with her.

Mbsl65
04-01-16, 15:10
While many the girls are kind of well used there, there are also FL are in Manila waiting for their USA visa. Due to proximity to USA Embassy, many of them stay in hotels paid by their sponsors. So, I got lucky with several of them. Matter of fact, some of there are in Pacific NW area now and time to time they visit me in my house. I recommend you to go to upstairs and pay the cover charge.

D Cups
04-01-16, 15:22
Anyway, I look forward to LA Cafe's closing party tonight. It's sure to be an enormous blow out; s.Huts, I hope this is some kind of April Fool's joke. Say it isn't so! I was just there at LA Cafe, Amazonia and G Point last week and scored at all three.

Shining Wit
04-01-16, 17:51
Huts, I hope this is some kind of April Fool's joke. Say it isn't so! I was just there at LA Cafe, Amazonia and G Point last week and scored at all three.I second the hope this is an April Fools joke {in very poor taste IMHO}. I booked flight and hotel this morning to fly out Monday. Go out for a couple of glasses of lunch, come back and find this!

Member #4387
04-01-16, 18:00
In a drunken state I ordered a Mercedes Benz S300 picking me up from New World Manila Bay hotel, driving me to Shangri la Makati. You go as fast (or slow I might say) as a regular car but you have a car with beer. That counts in my book. All this for the net sum of 5555 pisos (I am not kidding about the numbers, only the beers). The fun part when booking was they told me the price was 2500 ish pisos. But I got an e-mail correcting bcs they thought it was from the NW Makati. Fuck, that's almost walking distance (I know I never pay that kind of cash for a couple of hundred meters). The booking excecutive told me that was not new to them. I haggled the price though and got it down to 4250 pisos. Arrive in style.

Member #4387
04-01-16, 22:05
I second the hope this is an April Fools joke {in very poor taste IMHO}. I booked flight and hotel this morning to fly out Monday. Go out for a couple of glasses of lunch, come back and find this!Scoring over there isn't an issue. Quality is I will not be the judge but a diamond in the rough is probably to be found (whatever that is). Been there, diamond the place and left. My first peeing exp I got from LA Cafe a couple of years back. Today I like more peeing on well heeled ladies. That adds some power issues I thought I might not have. Worlds not perfect I guess.

Pcpc1688
04-01-16, 22:55
Twice in Manila I was charged a 70 peso rush-hour surcharge in addition to the meter.

Not much but I was scammed?

The first time I did not mind since I just got done waiting 2. 5 hours for a taxi at terminal 3.

I walked to the road at entrance and caught a scam cab.ID use Uber but they also have the Surge pricing which can get up there too. I paid 200 p from Makati to Ortigas once during rush hour. I usually tip them 20-40 p if they try hard to get me there quickly.

PC out.

OsakaGin11
04-04-16, 14:00
Recently I stumbled on to the Backpage website and I have been browsing many different cities, and I have especially been interested in the Manila sections concentrating on 'women seeking men', escorts and adult services.

There are lots of very beautiful gals advertising their wares and I was just wondering if any one has had any luck with these advertisements?

If you have meet any of the girls, are most of the photos genuine or are they just classic 'bait and switch' adverts, despite their claim to be 100 % real?

I have contacted some of the girls by phone and email and it seems that they are charging some between 5 - 6 K Peso for 2 hrs. And 12,000 P. or more for all night.

I am thinking about giving some of these babes a try on my next trip to the PI in July or August, and I would appreciate some genuine feedback from any punters out there who have accessed their services.

Thanks in advance.

D Cups
04-04-16, 15:53
Can anyone confirm Huts' shenanigan claim that LAC, Amazon and G Spot are closed? I'm going back in September and will take a different tack if so.


I second the hope this is an April Fools joke {in very poor taste IMHO}. I booked flight and hotel this morning to fly out Monday. Go out for a couple of glasses of lunch, come back and find this!.

Travelerl49
04-04-16, 17:43
Hey guys,

Looking for some assistance or contact info for a Classy "Top Shelf" Model Type GFE that speaks English and does overnights or full days.

I'm just not into the clubs or taking the time to "bar fine" girls. I like "Special Delivery".

I am staying at the Peninsula and I'm OK with upwards of $300-500 USD for the service.

Please PM me with whatever you got.

Thanks.

Fast Eddie 48
04-04-16, 20:51
Hey guys,

Looking for some assistance or contact info for a Classy "Top Shelf" Model Type GFE that speaks English and does overnights or full days.

I'm just not into the clubs or taking the time to "bar fine" girls. I like "Special Delivery".

I am staying at the Peninsula and I'm OK with upwards of $300-500 USD for the service.

Please PM me with whatever you got.

Thanks.To Traveler.

I stay at the city of dream hotel casino 2 month ago there are 2 night club inside with some hot babe pro working at night looking for high roller asking 200 usd to 300 usd for all nighter, some of this girl are tall pinoy and Korean or Japanese mix.

Fast eddie 48.

Nolz7
04-05-16, 00:45
Can anyone confirm Huts' shenanigan claim that LAC, Amazon and G Spot are closed? I'm going back in September and will take a different tack if so..Their phone number is posted online, call them and ask them directly.

Hutsori
04-05-16, 02:45
Can anyone confirm Huts' shenanigan claim that LAC, Amazon and G Spot are closed? I'm going back in September and will take a different tack if so.

.I called and Hollywood legend Martin Landau answered. He said he's still getting moresomes atop centre bar. In September DJ Mr Blooby will be manning the turntables, spinning his cool mix of smooth acid groove and mind numbing Scouse house. Food specials for the month are bright red hot dogs and Vicks.

Dg8787
04-05-16, 03:33
Hey guys,

Looking for some assistance or contact info for a Classy "Top Shelf" Model Type GFE that speaks English and does overnights or full days.

I'm just not into the clubs or taking the time to "bar fine" girls. I like "Special Delivery".

I am staying at the Peninsula and I'm OK with upwards of $300-500 USD for the service.

Please PM me with whatever you got.

Thanks.I recommend you PM Wicked Roger for assistance. Be sure to tell him you are of Manager class status for prompt response.

D Cups
04-05-16, 04:05
Not a very flattering pic of you, Huts.


I called and Hollywood legend Martin Landau answered. He said he's still getting moresomes atop centre bar. In September DJ Mr Blooby will be manning the turntables, spinning his cool mix of smooth acid groove and mind numbing Scouse house. Food specials for the month are bright red hot dogs and Vicks..

Member #4387
04-05-16, 04:35
Not a very flattering pic of you, Huts.

.But he's got a nice automobile?

Hitman2
04-05-16, 07:16
Recently I stumbled on to the Backpage website and I have been browsing many different cities, and I have especially been interested in the Manila sections concentrating on 'women seeking men', escorts and adult services.

There are lots of very beautiful gals advertising their wares and I was just wondering if any one has had any luck with these advertisements?

If you have meet any of the girls, are most of the photos genuine or are they just classic 'bait and switch' adverts, despite their claim to be 100 % real?

I have contacted some of the girls by phone and email and it seems that they are charging some between 5 - 6 K Peso for 2 hrs. And 12,000 P. or more for all night.

I am thinking about giving some of these babes a try on my next trip to the PI in July or August, and I would appreciate some genuine feedback from any punters out there who have accessed their services.

Thanks in advance.I did try my luck there and yes the prices are 5-6 k ST. It is pure bait and switch, basically all of them. You get a girl pick up the phone that is mentioned in the ad, but it isn't the girl you will meet. As a matter of fact the pictures posted also don't have much in common with the girl you will meet.

When talking to her on the phone she is fantasizing about the 2 hour service you will receive, but the girl that will arrive at your room doesn't know. Or want to know anything about this. They will try to get you down to business as fast as they can and rush out of your room.

I've tried against my better judgment and regretted it. Luckily the damage isn't that big, since adding up bar fines and drinks and taxis and the girls tip kinda get you into the same region. It is just that you can see your girl and check the chemistry before taking her back to the room. That's why I will will keep going to EDSA or Burgos.

Member #4387
04-05-16, 08:00
I did try my luck there and yes the prices are 5-6 k ST. It is pure bait and switch, basically all of them. You get a girl pick up the phone that is mentioned in the ad, but it isn't the girl you will meet. As a matter of fact the pictures posted also don't have much in common with the girl you will meet.

When talking to her on the phone she is fantasizing about the 2 hour service you will receive, but the girl that will arrive at your room doesn't know. Or want to know anything about this. They will try to get you down to business as fast as they can and rush out of your room.

I've tried against my better judgment and regretted it. Luckily the damage isn't that big, since adding up bar fines and drinks and taxis and the girls tip kinda get you into the same region. It is just that you can see your girl and check the chemistry before taking her back to the room. That's why I will will keep going to EDSA or Burgos.Not my business but why order up a escort girl as long as the same girl is available walking the malls of Makati. Even better just hitting up a stunner ie North Face store in Glorietta 4. Just meet her when she leaves from work. I don't care about costs, that's not my motivation, but all I hear from escort services are mostly laim reports. I never used such and think I never will.

CallSign Papa
04-05-16, 08:17
I recommend you PM Wicked Roger for assistance. Be sure to tell him you are of Manager class status for prompt response.You're a wicked man Dg, but you're in the right place ;)

Hutsori
04-05-16, 20:45
Not a very flattering pic of you, Huts.

.That's me on one of my better days.

Member #4387
04-06-16, 02:42
When I stayed at The Shang Makati I lived 27 FL in a rather large suite. I did have numerous of girls comming and going and a few were to shy to even go inside the hotel lobby so they would text me when they found themself outside Landmark. This was fine and I didn't want to force them to go inside as it is a rather posh place and simple girls can find it a bit overwhelming.

I met this stunner at the mentioned place outside Shang and brought her up for a shag. After shagging and especially if I donated some loads I am allways a tad tired. The girl had only a few minutes to spear as she was on her lunchbreak from somewhere close by. I just asked her to let herself out of the room and the hotel.

1 HR later I had another girl comming for a quicky and she managed the whole process of entering the lobby and got assisted by a guard ro my room. Ofcourse I've "forgot" the first girl. Minutes later, when me and new girl started to get intimate I heard the doorbell ringing. A securityguard and the former girl stood outside. I felt a sudden panic attack, as I, in respect of the girls don't tell I see many girls a day. It showed shed been roaming around in corridors and elevatoring herself almost everywhere except from down to the lobby. This was a close one and could have been nasty experience if I was to meet the new arriving girl and stumbled into the former girl with the new one in hand. Security understood my panick and told he escort the girl out of the hotel. I survived this experience as well.

Conclusion: I started allways to make sure the girl is outside hotelpremesis before hitting on a new one. I required confirmation and so far this has worked out fine.

PolyOrchid
04-06-16, 06:11
Not my business but why order up a escort girl as long as the same girl is available walking the malls of Makati. Even better just hitting up a stunner ie North Face store in Glorietta 4. Just meet her when she leaves from work. I don't care about costs, that's not my motivation, but all I hear from escort services are mostly laim reports. I never used such and think I never will.I'll tell you in the US and I assume Manila and everywhere, Backpage has a very bad reputation: for overselling, bait and switch, just for starters.

I agree with Donald, unless you're averse to doing the legwork, you'll always feed higher on the Bush and cut out the middleman if you stroll the finer malls in Makati. Best of luck.

Alternatively, make friends with some of our finer statesmen, such as Wicked Roger, who may well have suggestions.

Pcpc1688
04-06-16, 16:58
When I stayed at The Shang Makati I lived 27 FL in a rather large suite. I did have numerous of girls comming and going and a few were to shy to even go inside the hotel lobby so they would text me when they found themself outside Landmark. This was fine and I didn't want to force them to go inside as it is a rather posh place and simple girls can find it a bit overwhelming.

I met this stunner at the mentioned place outside Shang and brought her up for a shag. After shagging and especially if I donated some loads I am allways a tad tired. The girl had only a few minutes to spear as she was on her lunchbreak from somewhere close by. I just asked her to let herself out of the room and the hotel.

1 HR later I had another girl comming for a quicky and she managed the whole process of entering the lobby and got assisted by a guard ro my room. Ofcourse I've "forgot" the first girl. Minutes later, when me and new girl started to get intimate I heard the doorbell ringing. A securityguard and the former girl stood outside. I felt a sudden panic attack, as I, in respect of the girls don't tell I see many girls a day. It showed shed been roaming around in corridors and elevatoring herself almost everywhere except from down to the lobby. This was a close one and could have been nasty experience if I was to meet the new arriving girl and stumbled into the former girl with the new one in hand. Security understood my panick and told he escort the girl out of the hotel. I survived this experience as well.

Conclusion: I started allways to make sure the girl is outside hotelpremesis before hitting on a new one. I required confirmation and so far this has worked out fine.Poor Skoggs, such quality problems to have LOL.

I pmed you with no reply dude. In Makati week of May 12th for a week. You around to give us poor peasants lessons on the Pinay mindset haha.

PC out.

Member #4387
04-07-16, 05:00
Poor Skoggs, such quality problems to have LOL.

I pmed you with no reply dude. In Makati week of May 12th for a week. You around to give us poor peasants lessons on the Pinay mindset haha.

PC out.I normaly don't do meet ups as I am here for girls and run extremely busy scheduel. but since I get this question a lot I will repeat what I have written many times: I book maybe 1 or 2 days before arriving. My travel windows opens unfrequently and when I have or got an opening then I book and fly.

If I am suppose to meet anyone you are on that list, hehe. I never do like to tell when I am coming due to some heat from angry husbands and boyfriends directing their anger at me instead of their girl. Again its not my obligation to check or investigate if a girl are occupied or not. I have one rule and that is to not fuck my best buddies GF's which works out fine bcs I know who they are (not based here).

Take it as a good sport and I don't think you are one of those guys. I PM you if timing is right.

Donald.

Hutsori
04-07-16, 10:06
unless you're averse to doing the legwork, you'll always feed higher on the Bush and cut out the middleman if you stroll the finer malls in Makati. Best of luck.

Mall wandering is an OK way to get a bit of exercise and do some eye shopping, but it's also very inefficient. Use the dating sites, use facebook, use technology. Now, you can this while mall wandering, and maybe you'll literally bump into someone because you're looking at your mobile, so safer to do so seated comfortably somewhere.


You around to give us poor peasants lessons on the Pinay mindset haha.

Speaking of non-working girls here. There is no secret. No mystically magical words. No hypnosis. The trick isn't knowing her mind, the trick is knowing your mind - I use 'you' in the plural form, so don't think I'm calling out you specifically. A lot of guys join dating sites looking for Pinays and come to the Philippines because they assume Filipinas are poor, desperate, easy to get, and are only in it for the money. This foundation belief I think colours how they end up treating women here, i.e. they don't treat them well. Further, it's a lot easier to figure out your one mind than try to do so for hundreds of other people's minds. That's a lot of work and random guessing.




I never do like to tell when I am coming due to some heat from angry husbands and boyfriends directing their anger at me instead of their girl. Again its not my obligation to check or investigate if a girl are occupied or not. I have one rule and that is to not fuck my best buddies GF's which works out fine bcs I know who they are (not based here).

Smart. If a girl is cheating on her fella, the onus is on the fella to figure out why. Be assured if she's going to cheat, she's not waiting around for the one special guy to mind control her into it. She's dining at the smorgasbord.

Member #4387
04-07-16, 11:41
Smart. If a girl is cheating on her fella, the onus is on the fella to figure out why. Be assured if she's going to cheat, she's not waiting around for the one special guy to mind control her into it. She's dining at the smorgasbord.Yeah I find it pretty smart. Had a few "near" collisions with cheated husbands / boyfriends who had to much testos rushing through their vaines. With attitude and a controlling mind so if they are like that with their gfs, no wonder they cheat them guys. Its a pretty laim macho thing still going on in 2016 that if a girl cheats I will cick the other mans ass. When its realy the girl he should "kick" out or end it with. I have thought about it reversed many times and I wouldn't harm the guy at all. Maybe not befriended him and I would probably tell him to, lets say, get out of my house. But that's that. My GF must have found herself another place to stay from that day. If my GF finds out I cheat and there are a pretty good chance she will someday as I seem to be unable to stop, she still have to find herself a new place to live but that's a different matter. I will be more kind such a scenario and even help her set up a new home as we have baby together.

Still I don't fancy people threatning me. I know I play it hard and that it is a risk I take. Mostly threats are made through calls and I don't loose much sleep over them. Just change my number (god knows how many new numbers I have in one year, hehe) and hope for my place security to stop mayby an offended husband / boyfriend from getting inside. He will not know my name, not even close as I have artificial mongername which is the only name the girls will know. The guys are most likely scrolling through their girls phone. I also don't use the hotel I stay at for meeting point. But ofcourse most of them girls I meet seem to be single. That must be said in all fairness.

Sxxxx
04-07-16, 13:55
Today Thursday 7th, I heard on the radio, France has made it illegal to pay for sex.

'Managers' and others, mongering in the Philippines, will be pleased with this and hope the law spreads, I suppose.

Myself, being a gentleman monger, I like to pay for services rendered, and thus pay, especially when the girls are Filipinos, IE.

Will Phil authorities be influenced by this new French law and encourage the raiding of pay for sex bars, all over again? Imagine CCTV cameras in hotel rooms to ensure no one pays for sex. Donald Sucks and the like, watch out, LOL.

Pcpc1688
04-07-16, 14:33
I normaly don't do meet ups as I am here for girls and run extremely busy scheduel. but since I get this question a lot I will repeat what I have written many times: I book maybe 1 or 2 days before arriving. My travel windows opens unfrequently and when I have or got an opening then I book and fly.

If I am suppose to meet anyone you are on that list, hehe. I never do like to tell when I am coming due to some heat from angry husbands and boyfriends directing their anger at me instead of their girl. Again its not my obligation to check or investigate if a girl are occupied or not. I have one rule and that is to not fuck my best buddies GF's which works out fine bcs I know who they are (not based here).

Take it as a good sport and I don't think you are one of those guys. I PM you if timing is right.

Donald.Donald,

I was merely giving you some American cynicism LOL I'm aware of the Pinay mindset or lets say about 30% of it as the other 70% involves the issue of just having a vagina Haha.

Anyways if it works than I look forward to it. I have more fun in Philippines for sure also I'm not one of those guys whoever they are. At least I hope not.

PC out.

Member #4387
04-12-16, 06:58
After comming into phils quite heavily the last 4 years, and by heavily I mean between 15 to 20 trips a year, I have picked up a few hickups or cute cultural issues (becomes irritating after a while). If you, like me, drink a lot its easier to keep sane. Let me first say to the phil protectors I do love them small cute pinays but I do not like the country very much. And you can mock me for my not native tounge myself. Its fine no worries i do handle it with a big cheeky grind. Probably do i deserve it as well. This, my post, is meant from a good heart and maybe, at least to nubes, this could be helpful into understanding pinays and their outlook on things.

So in communicating with them pinays (both in precommunication and in communicating with them while there are on their way over) I have just made a small presentation what I remember from my head so far (I am sure others could chime in);.

Arrive / go; these 2 words are constantly used wrong. When I was a nube I totaly got upset and girls constantly told me "ok we arrive now". I thought what the fuck its hrs before we planned to meet eachother. I learned quickly that what they realy meant was "we just left" and they on their way over to my place.

If / when; also two words which are constantly used the wrong way. A normal sentense from a pinay would be "if I come can I have wine?" In the beginning I made a big point in telling her "fuck we have talked about you comming here long time now and now you say IF? As in I felt she was not sure if she would come anyway. Only to understand what she meant was ofcoure "when I come can I have wine".

Time; beeing debated many times here and in other threads but still worth mentioning. Timehandling here is quite different from what we can be used to from back home. In my beginning comminghere I went mental bcs girls arrived late all the time. Nowadays I make this the strongpoint in my communication, first making sure they know time as a concept and a constant. Secondly I want to know if they know what I mean when I say they should come my place at this or that time. If they confirm they know what "3 pm my hotel" means we take it from there. Lately I have very little issues with latecommers but in general time is a factor you need stress quite a lot to make them come on time. I use and stresses "you need travel early", "you know there will be trappic", "I will not wait you", "I run busy scheduel so I have no time to waste"(this is true on many levels), etc etc.

Where are you now?(from the girls angel); we can have talked and chatted quite a lot during the day of our meet and I have repeatadly told them I am in my hotel and in my room waiting. This will not prevent some girls to ask this question again along her travels.

Where are you now?(from my angel); many girls here have a different view getting this question asked than we have. Beeing asked this question I would give a detailed answer often incl the adress I am at (street, road), what kind of transportation I am taking and also incl approx estimated time of arrival (eta). This is from an actual convo with a girl; me, where are you now? She, in the jeep. Me, where is the jeep located? She, on the road driving. Me (starting to loose my vits), you have any idea what area in Manila you and the jeep are at? She, I think we are on Edsa. Then I mostly give up and just ask her to text me when she is close.

I am getting close now (from girls angel); this text is often followed by a new text 1 sec later where she states "I am here now" and the question "where are you?" I answer as usual "I am in my room waiting you comming down now, 3 min". 30 sec later "where are you?

Where are you from?(from / in); this question is ofcourse a normal question to ask anyone when precommunicating. Nothing wrong in this. What surprises me is what kind of answers you can get, hehe. Me, I am from Norway, She, but I am here in phils dear. Me, yes I know that and we have talked about I come to phils shortly so we can meet. She, but you say your in Norway, how we meet? Me, no I didn't say I was in Norway I said I was from Norway. She, ohhh, hmmm.

Hello its me?; this I might add is not only the girls mistake. If I communicated only one girl this would have been easy. Still I don't and have numerous of girls at any time I do viber, skype, we chat, whatsapp, line, fake FB messenger etc with. Suddenly on one of my regular phil phones I get a text from a totaly new and unknown number, "hey its me". Then the process of remember where I met this girl starts and what I realy need is her name in one of the mentioned places. Often she will repsond "its me Monique". This beeing her real name which she never used before doesn't help either so I need to dive more into this. Can be stressful but what don't we do to get that pukie. Girls also change numbers and FB handles like we change names. Well for FB there is a timelimit in how often you can change handle but when you like me have many contacts through there it feels like names changing all the time.

Lyca; to bed them girls easily I have found to play their emotions showing me off as an emotional and sensitive guy. I simply put on youtube and search "lyca phil got talent". This is a 9 yo girl from poor family who made it through to the final and won this over better heeled Darren from Canada (he had a phil mother I believe). To the pinay protectors, no i never promise relationship. All girls meet me under the terms "i am not lookin for anything serious"..

Huh, HM, ?, k, etc; don't let this stress you out. Its just the way for pinays to say they didn't understand, they have to think about it, can you repeat please and they even invented a shortage for "ok" as in "k". Well maybe they didn't but I have only ran into "k" here. If its to hard to write "ok" I don't know.

Google; sometimes I crawl out of my good skin when you communicated enough with a girl who agreed to meet up with you. The day come when a meet is due. You have been through where you stay over and over agin and she aknowledge she will come. Then she pops the question, how can I go there I don't know that place? My response is to tell her just grab a cab and I pay when she's infront of my hotel. When the next question comes and its almost all the time what's your hotel I tell her to google. Some answer "huh". I say go google dot com and in the search area you put "name of my hotel" and press search feature / button. She; "Oh I see it now. See you".

Phone-/ connection trouble; this is by far the girls mistake but I guess we can call the phil telecommunication mediocre at best. Never been in a country who pretends to be westernized where connection sucks like here. You can experience quite some troubles getting in touch with girls here but ofcourse this connectiontrouble can serve its purpose on many levels from both angels. Can be convenient if a girl is to early to simply blame connection why you didn't pick up the phone and vica verca I believe.

Load; it seems these girls runs out of load all the time and mostly I guess they do. Except from one time when a girl pasaloaded 20 php to me I sometimes do pasaloads to get a girl approaching in hazzlefree. Only small donations so. No worries. But ubet she runs oit of load at the worst possible timings there is. Then just call and if connection (for once) serves your right she doesn't have to pay if you call her and you can actually connect making oral agreements the old fashion way. Still works sometimes.

Stringing two or more sentenses/questions together; this is my finetuned mechanism these days to leave out the most simple pinays. Today i send maybe 100 copy/paste msgs to girl before trips with loads of questions. All beeing screened in my fake FB as girls pretty and sexy. 15 to 20 replies my questions in an orderly manner and are good to go. The others and here is my point to nubes. If u get a feel ur girl is quite simple and not to educated one question in one simple sentense is enough. She will most likely just answer the last or the first question in ur text anyways. Just aheads up so u dont waste loads of time. I got irritated at first through this but as time goes along i have the luxury into pick may what some would call upper crust girls and they do know how to communicate as well. Here factors as time is pretty normal as back home bcs time is also valuable to them(often nice jobs, education etc). Many of the abovementioned stuffs will not applie to this segment of girls..

I am sure others have small minor issues regarding my above postings. My purpose is not to be cruel or anything. As stated above I just don't like phil as a country but the girls here you got to love. It is what it is. I am happy when I come and happy when I go and ofcourse I am happy while here bcs I do have found my safe heaven in Makati and wonder no longer than outskirts Glorietta reaching Greenbelt on few occations.

D Cups
04-12-16, 15:45
Hi Skogi, I don't usually read long posts but found this one to be quite entertaining. Truth is funnier than fiction! I imagine living in the provinces has another set Filipinisms that can keep any westerner puzzled and entertained. Got to love that snatch tho. Mmmmmm good.


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I am sure others have small minor issues regarding my above postings. .

OsakaGin11
04-13-16, 16:47
I did try my luck there and yes the prices are 5-6 k ST. It is pure bait and switch, basically all of them. You get a girl pick up the phone that is mentioned in the ad, but it isn't the girl you will meet. As a matter of fact the pictures posted also don't have much in common with the girl you will meet.

When talking to her on the phone she is fantasizing about the 2 hour service you will receive, but the girl that will arrive at your room doesn't know. Or want to know anything about this. They will try to get you down to business as fast as they can and rush out of your room.

I've tried against my better judgment and regretted it. Luckily the damage isn't that big, since adding up bar fines and drinks and taxis and the girls tip kinda get you into the same region. It is just that you can see your girl and check the chemistry before taking her back to the room. That's why I will will keep going to EDSA or Burgos.Hi Hitman. Thanks for the honest feedback re your personal experiences with the Backpage advertisements for escorts and other male / female meet ups. I was hoping to hear some positive stories and accounts about some mongers actually meeting one of these "beauties" who was using real photos. But at this stage no one has been forthcoming.

Thanks again.

Lost For Words
04-14-16, 15:17
Perhaps nothing new to report, but I'm at least able to verify the useful information posted by others before.

I went to EDSA on Friday night around 9 pm and found it completely dead. Almost no customers, albeit a very few Japanese customers. Apparently most of the customers these days are Japanese, and they seem to cater to that -- linig up for them if they come in a bar. All the bars are under one roof and right next to each other, which makes it extremely easy to go into one, check out the girls, leave and go to another if none are your liking. For ease of use, once you're there, it's pretty hard to beat. I was quoted barfine as 1950 php, girls drinks as 300 php and were separate from the bar fine. San Miguel beer was 140 php. ST was quoted at 2500 php and I wasn't able to negotiate to 2000 php. The quality of girls was the same as I found nearly everywhere else and you could easily hit all the bars in less than an hour and see more than 120 girls on a weekend night to choose from. For what it's worth, the girl I ended up choosing said she gets 118 php per night as a salary, 50 php for any girl drinks guys buy her, and then whatever final tip she negotiates with the guy. So I guess she got 2668 php the night I picked her up.

On Saturday night I went to P. Burgos street and based on the reports on this board ended up Kojaks, Plan be and Bottoms. I started a little later, at around 10 pm, and found the bars much more crowded with mostly western guys. When I went to go in to Plan be I was told there was a "private party" but there were these two Indian guys out front trying to get in at the same time. I remembered reading something about that in my initial research, so I just hung around outside and after the doorman shoo'd away the Indian guys, they just said to me "You want to go in?" and let me in. Overall I found the girls in Plan be to be slightly more pushy -- they would proactively come to my table and start talking to me and trying to get me to buy them drinks or at least choose a girl, whereas that didn't happen anywhere else. But it wasn't to the point of annoying. I was expecting more from Bottoms based on what I read, but it was smaller than Plan be and Kojaks and the girls didn't seem higher quality or anything, so just one drink and I left. Kojaks, on the other hand, impressed me. It's newer and you're able to see the girls on stage pretty well. The dancing is choreographed and the staff wasn't pushy at all. Moreover the quality of girls seemed a cut above. Girl drinks were 400 php. From what I had read, girl drinks should be subtracted from the barfine. In my case, I bought two girl drinks and they quoted me at 2900 php for the barfine + 800 for two girls drinks. So 3700 php. That seems fairly accurate with reports that barfine is 3900 php with girl drinks subtracted. ST was 3000 php. The girl I ended up choosing said she also gets a salary per night, and between 100-150 php per girl drink that any guy buys her. So I guess she got 3320 php the night I picked her up.

If I went back I'd probably just stick to Kojaks again for night fun, but other posters are completely right -- during the day there's just so much other freelance or other opportunities that it makes sense to invest more in that if you're there for more than a weekend.

Free2
04-15-16, 13:16
So in communicating with them pinays (both in precommunication and in communicating with them while there are on their way over) I have just made a small presentation what I remember from my head so far (I am sure others could chime in);.Never a truer word spoken! Thoroughly enjoyed your post and the time taken to write it. Every single thing you reference I have experienced!

Funny how an entire nation texts and messages the same way.

Once you learn how the pinay brain works, they are wonderful to interact with.

You also have a much better chance of scoring if you go with the flow, rather than try to change their mentality!

Fastpiston
04-17-16, 00:34
Perhaps nothing new to report, but I'm at least able to verify the useful information posted by others before.

I went to EDSA on Friday night around 9 pm and found it completely dead. Almost no customers, albeit a very few Japanese customers. Apparently most of the customers these days are Japanese, and they seem to cater to that -- linig up for them if they come in a bar. All the bars are under one roof and right next to each other, which makes it extremely easy to go into one, check out the girls, leave and go to another if none are your liking. For ease of use, once you're there, it's pretty hard to beat. I was quoted barfine as 1950 php, girls drinks as 300 php and were separate from the bar fine. San Miguel beer was 140 php. ST was quoted at 2500 php and I wasn't able to negotiate to 2000 php. The quality of girls was the same as I found nearly everywhere else and you could easily hit all the bars in less than an hour and see more than 120 girls on a weekend night to choose from. For what it's worth, the girl I ended up choosing said she gets 118 php per night as a salary, 50 php for any girl drinks guys buy her, and then whatever final tip she negotiates with the guy. So I guess she got 2668 php the night I picked her up.

On Saturday night I went to P. Burgos street and based on the reports on this board ended up Kojaks, Plan be and Bottoms. I started a little later, at around 10 pm, and found the bars much more crowded with mostly western guys. When I went to go in to Plan be I was told there was a "private party" but there were these two Indian guys out front trying to get in at the same time. I remembered reading something about that in my initial research, so I just hung around outside and after the doorman shoo'd away the Indian guys, they just said to me "You want to go in?" and let me in. Overall I found the girls in Plan be to be slightly more pushy -- they would proactively come to my table and start talking to me and trying to get me to buy them drinks or at least choose a girl, whereas that didn't happen anywhere else. But it wasn't to the point of annoying. I was expecting more from Bottoms based on what I read, but it was smaller than Plan be and Kojaks and the girls didn't seem higher quality or anything, so just one drink and I left. Kojaks, on the other hand, impressed me. It's newer and you're able to see the girls on stage pretty well. The dancing is choreographed and the staff wasn't pushy at all. Moreover the quality of girls seemed a cut above. Girl drinks were 400 php. From what I had read, girl drinks should be subtracted from the barfine. In my case, I bought two girl drinks and they quoted me at 2900 php for the barfine + 800 for two girls drinks. So 3700 php. That seems fairly accurate with reports that barfine is 3900 php with girl drinks subtracted. ST was 3000 php. The girl I ended up choosing said she also gets a salary per night, and between 100-150 php per girl drink that any guy buys her. So I guess she got 3320 php the night I picked her up.

If I went back I'd probably just stick to Kojaks again for night fun, but other posters are completely right -- during the day there's just so much other freelance or other opportunities that it makes sense to invest more in that if you're there for more than a weekend.Looks like Manila has caught up with Bangkok on ST pricing.

Googol224
04-20-16, 13:32
Just got back from my annual Manila / Ermita visit. As usual, I spent my time between LA Cafe (formerly known as Manila Bay Cafe) and Amazonia Bar with a little side-mongering for SW.

LA has gotten a bad rap in recent years, but I find it's still a nice place that's usually packed to the gills with girls. Not as pretty as those you will find in the KTVs or in EDSA, but plentiful and (very) eager to please. I don't usually care only about looks. Don't get me wrong. Plenty of hotties in LA as well, but just a broader spectrum.

I usually take a beer and then pick a girl to ask over to talk to. If you invite them for a beer (95 to 150 pesos) they are more than happy to spend time with you. What's their alternative? Sitting on a chair and looking around? If you spend some time talking to the girls and are nice to them they will gladly go with you. Usually I pay 2 k for LT and 1200 for ST.

What LA has done, what I don't get at all, is they are forcing the girls to buy drinks at regular intervals. For some of these girls this is simply not possible so every once in a while the bouncer will round them up and kick them out. EASY pickings at that point.

LA is not high-end, but always fun and never lonely.

Amazonia is smaller and a bit more hard-core. Some girls do 20 hour shifts and at the end of their shifts will gladly come with you for a bed and a shower (though I always insist on paying them fairly). Also nice girls, but far fewer than in LA. Still. You will find girls that are rearing to go. You can have a great time with the cheapest pitcher of Rum & Coke in Manila and just hanging out and playing pool. If you so desire, there are plenty of ladies to take your mind of things. Amazonia has rooms right above the bar if you're in the mood for ST. Same prices as in LA usually apply.

Long story short. I love the vibrancy and variety of Manila. I actually prefer it to the "Pattaya-vibe" you find in Angeles. I usually take 2 girls per day. One ST in the PM and one LT over night. If you're not a total Jerk and treat the girls decently, they will give their all in the hope that you will become a repeat customer.

Highly recommended!

Surfer500
04-20-16, 15:45
I had read somewhere that these places have been closed on this thread. Is this true?

If so where are the nearest free lance places as I am staying at the New World Manila Bay Hotel.

Any help would be appreciated.

D Cups
04-20-16, 18:40
Good to know, Googo. I have done better at Amazon than at Manila Bay Cafe but both are good if one is not too choosy. I like that they are open 24/7 because my flight arrives at 4 - 5 AM so by 6:30 AM I am already banging some sweet young thing. Where else in the world can you pick up a freelancer at that time? Huts?


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Highly recommended!.

Surfer500
04-20-16, 19:22
Just got back from my annual Manila / Ermita visit. As usual, I spent my time between LA Cafe (formerly known as Manila Bay Cafe) and Amazonia Bar with a little side-mongering for SW.

LA has gotten a bad rap in recent years, but I find it's still a nice place that's usually packed to the gills with girls. Not as pretty as those you will find in the KTVs or in EDSA, but plentiful and (very) eager to please. I don't usually care only about looks. Don't get me wrong. Plenty of hotties in LA as well, but just a broader spectrum.

I usually take a beer and then pick a girl to ask over to talk to. If you invite them for a beer (95 to 150 pesos) they are more than happy to spend time with you. What's their alternative? Sitting on a chair and looking around? If you spend some time talking to the girls and are nice to them they will gladly go with you. Usually I pay 2 k for LT and 1200 for ST...This is a great report as I had heard these places where closed. When I was in Manila a couple of months back I had some great experiences pulling girls from Amazon and was staying in the New World Marina Hotel so it was a close walk there.

Googol224
04-20-16, 22:19
Hey Surfer,

I can definitely confirm that both places are still open and fully operational. Just texted with one of my "friends" there today and she was definitely "working".

Enjoy all & be nice to the girls!


This is a great report as I had heard these places where closed. When I was in Manila a couple of months back I had some great experiences pulling girls from Amazon and was staying in the New World Marina Hotel so it was a close walk there.

Hutsori
04-21-16, 04:48
Good to know, Googo. I have done better at Amazon than at Manila Bay Cafe but both are good if one is not too choosy. I like that they are open 24/7 because my flight arrives at 4 - 5 AM so by 6:30 AM I am already banging some sweet young thing. Where else in the world can you pick up a freelancer at that time? Huts?

.At 6:30 am? The only place is LA Cafe. The times I've been there at sunrise most of the girls without a customer leave to sleep. From sunrise to 11 or so there are 20-30 girls there, and thereafter more start showing up. A weekend afternoon is a great time there; plenty of people but not overcrowded, and the girls aren't yet burnt out from sitting around for 14 hours.

Amazonia is often a ghost town. When walking from G Point to LA it's on my route so I peek in and there are a handful of girls. I don't know how that place stays in business. Good money in sad endings? G Point is only good at night.

There are few other places like the Southern Cross and Hussy's that attract freelancers. Usually dismal ones.

I prefer the dating sites because you can often find a call centre girl whose shift finishes in the morning or a student.

D Cups
04-21-16, 14:42
Well maybe I just got lucky then but I've been in Amazonia that early and vavoom we went to the room. LA Cafe tends to be kind of noisy and smokey especially at night so I prefer the peace and quiet of the Amazon although I've had as high as a 7 at both places and many fond memories. Yes, good idea to call a call center girl, too, whenever her shift ends. They are usually looking to supplement their income like most Filipinas. Regards.


At 6:30 am? The only place is LA Cafe.
I prefer the dating sites because you can often find a call centre girl whose shift finishes in the morning or a student..

Googol224
04-21-16, 15:49
Hmm. I like the Call Center idea, though that usually implies more of a "quiet" evening does it not? I like to party and talk to a number of girls before settling on one and this is definitely possible in Amazonia or LA.

So 2 questions. How do you work the Call Center angle? Does the girl know the deal or does she think its "romance". Also, any advice (other than DIA) where these girls advertise?


Well maybe I just got lucky then but I've been in Amazonia that early and vavoom we went to the room. LA Cafe tends to be kind of noisy and smokey especially at night so I prefer the peace and quiet of the Amazon although I've had as high as a 7 at both places and many fond memories. Yes, good idea to call a call center girl, too, whenever her shift ends. They are usually looking to supplement their income like most Filipinas. Regards..

NewImage
04-23-16, 12:05
JGB reports. Two trips to EDSA. Virgin experience for me.

Night 1 - had brief look around, settled on Firehouse, place was deserted, me and another punter. Settled with drink to take in scenery and selection. Girls bored & trying to look interested. Spied 4 possibles. Chose one at back cute 21 why old slim.

20 min BS discussion. Where you from, how long you stay, where you stay etc. Time for negotiation- asked how much ST? She said up to you. I said no you tell me. Said have to consult mamasan. I said no I'm asking you. Went to & fro. Told me this was her second night, not barfined before etc etc.

Finally I said ok good 2000 BF 2000 you. She said ok. I was thinking ok if no good at least its discounted. Discussed everything (well I thought). Took ages talking to mamasan before we left. Maybe she was a newbie? Taxi mafia outside- FO- walked up a little got correct fare back.

Shower all good, full GFE, DFK, BBBJ, covered up and did the deed. Was tight but pounded away for awhile. Very wet, suddenly she gets up and says sorry. Turn on lights. Well lets say sheets weren't creamy white anymore. She keeps apologizing I just say F, F, lucky I was covered up.

I give her the 2000 she asks for taxi money. I say yeah right after I pay for new sheet and mattress protector. Bye.

Overall impression: yeah great start.

Night 2 - Not to be discouraged returned to EDSA. First of all went to Firehouse told Mamasan what happened. Told her I wasn't happy. Typical reaction. Not interested.

Spent next 15 minutes doing the rounds. Prob saw every club. Witnessed the jap phenomenon of walk in. Choose girl. Pay barfine. Walk out. Girls flock to Asians. 333.

MHO best bar. Cotton Club. Best selection and best atmosphere. Settled here. Got some recommendations from Mamasan. Took more time this time.

Chose 26 why old cute spinner. BFine 2000 plus 2,500 tip. Discussed everything and after last night I mean everything.

GFE (sort off) bit mechnical, BBBJ, Covered FS, fair but not great.

My impressions of EDSA. Compared to other places expensive for quality of service. Bit hit & miss. Would I partake from EDSA again. Prob not better options elsewhere but YVMD.

X Man
04-23-16, 13:45
Nice report. Your message includes "why old". This is probably the intrusive auto correct that is in place. What did you mean? Curious minds want to know!


JGB reports. Two trips to EDSA. Virgin experience for me.

Night 1 - had brief look around, settled on Firehouse SNIP but YVMD.

BrainDrain
04-25-16, 22:49
Hmm. I like the Call Center idea, though that usually implies more of a "quiet" evening does it not? I like to party and talk to a number of girls before settling on one and this is definitely possible in Amazonia or LA.

So 2 questions. How do you work the Call Center angle? Does the girl know the deal or does she think its "romance". Also, any advice (other than DIA) where these girls advertise?My approach to working the angle:

Dating sites.

Coffee shop adjacent to any large Makati building.

One thing to consider with dating office workers, you do need to be available to their hours, they can't party like bargirls and they like sex just a much.

Enjoy.

BD.

BrainDrain
04-26-16, 00:20
Anyone having problems accessing pinalove.com? I'm getting 502 Bad Gateway error.

Has been like this since yesterday (for me).

BD.

Member #4387
04-26-16, 00:24
Hmm. I like the Call Center idea, though that usually implies more of a "quiet" evening does it not? I like to party and talk to a number of girls before settling on one and this is definitely possible in Amazonia or LA.

So 2 questions. How do you work the Call Center angle? Does the girl know the deal or does she think its "romance". Also, any advice (other than DIA) where these girls advertise?Here I must say I have quite some experience as Callcenter-, office- and studentgirls are my prime objects for my escapades in Makati. BD has given you some headsup which are correct. To elaborate I use only FB but the same rule apply here as in datingsites. My trick is to have a VERY large pale / stock of girls to pick from so I can put girls into my scheduel and by this rotate them girls into having 3 to 5 girls a day during my stays in Makati. Having many to choose from gives me the advantage as they work different hours and they have different days off. Mybe ex the regular real officeworker as they seem to be stucked in their chair somewhere in a Makati highrise from 8/9 am to 4/5/6 pm. Callcentergirls have longer shifts (mostly) and work either dayshift (incl afternoon early eve) or nightshift and then they have a day or more off before they rotate to oposite workingtime. A few of them work for businesses deviding the day in 3 (day-, afternoon- and nightshifts). For student girls some of them are, like the regular officeworker, busy during daytime. But also here we have various hours they do study. Some study during day and others start classes in afternoon (from noon and towards early eve).

Seems chaotic? Yes, it can be. You need to work out your own system on how to keep track of each girls scheduel. I ask many questions in the beginning when I start hitting up a girl and I do have a designated scrapbook where I load in all info (by pen as I like it the old fashion way) and by this I can create my daily scheduel in an calmed environment and give the girls info when they are schedueled to come. All girls go through the same questioning/interview so it add some sense into it all. I am only interested in the girls able to answer more than one qustion at the time anyway so this also functioning as a screening method i am happy i found. This is how I do it and others MO might vary from mine but I think I, by now, can say my method works.

It works sometimes to good so I have to ditch screened and good to go girls. I try in some ways to keep them warm but continuious communication with girls are not my idea of fun time. And when next trip closing in i have found others and better gems anyway so it is basically waste of valuable time trying to keep them warm(in my book). I mostly communicate girls maybe a small week prior to my arrival as a general rule. Actually I have narrowed it down to mostly a 3 to 4 days by now as I have become more efficient in sweettalking them girls. Hitting on the girls earlier than this creates only a lot of jibber jabber and empty talks which also is timeconsuming. The girls appreciate that initial contact and actual meet takes place within a very short period of time. Hope this helps a tad. Even if i do it the old fashion way its still some sort of science:-)

Blanquiceleste
04-26-16, 01:09
JGB reports. Two trips to EDSA. Virgin experience for me.

SNIP

My impressions of EDSA. Compared to other places expensive for quality of service. Bit hit & miss. Would I partake from EDSA again. Prob not better options elsewhere but YVMD.Good reports, keep them coming. As for finding EDSA expensive, wait till you get to Burgos. Also, if my memory serves me right the barfine in EDSA is 1950 P. Probably rounding off error?

Member #4387
04-28-16, 22:34
This fora is not the worst but I want to adress some concerns by fellow mongerers;.

Do you by heart think that giving the sweetheart dinner and on occationally 0. 5 k to 1. 5 k in aftermath is enough? Some of you guys are cheap / kuripot and the girls can not provide their life from this small ammount. I give by now 3 to 5/6 k php for each girl I encounter and they are even not in realy need from it. It should have been more like girls from the lower tire getting 5/6 k php and girls from higher tier getting 0,5 to 1 k.

We can allways evalutae that I only had fucked her once and for a session 1 HR or a bit more 1,5 could be adjusted to enough. I think some of you (u know who you are) exploit the girls and due to their shyness you can ride your big horse and think you did her a favor. Be generous is my campaign, FL or regualr girls. Girls can not provide family with the best of your dick. If you consider urself the best lover and by fucking you she's got all she deserves. Give a gift.

Cool
04-29-16, 05:14
This fora is not the worst but I want to adress some concerns by fellow mongerers;.

Do you by heart think that giving the sweetheart dinner and on occationally 0. 5 k to 1. 5 k in aftermath is enough? Some of you guys are cheap / kuripot and the girls can not provide their life from this small ammount. I give by now 3 to 5/6 k php for each girl I encounter and they are even not in realy need from it. It should have been more like girls from the lower tire getting 5/6 k php and girls from higher tier getting 0,5 to 1 k.

We can allways evalutae that I only had fucked her once and for a session 1 HR or a bit more 1,5 could be adjusted to enough. I think some of you (u know who you are) exploit the girls and due to their shyness you can ride your big horse and think you did her a favor. Be generous is my campaign, FL or regualr girls. Girls can not provide family with the best of your dick. If you consider urself the best lover and by fucking you she's got all she deserves. Give a gift.I pay fairly. I had some FLs I met through a NY friend who took the meal deal over board (6 meals total). All mongers cannot afford to overcompensate or the expats that live here full time may have to cut out some sessions a month to compensate. Filipinos will take advantage of you. When I first arrived I was over tipping for 10 weeks until I ran across a Phil website. I noticed older white males tipping only 5 and 10 pisos. I asked my expat friend who has 40 years of experience here and he coached me on the market rate. It's best to stay at market rate for the brotherhood or you drive up prices for the next fellow. At first I had to make sure a pinay didn't hack your account like Tunsil the NFL draft pick (MIA). Beware fellows because those extra pisos Donald gives goes into their young / handsome Filipino boyfriends' pocket. Their boyfriends' enjoy going to the finest restaurants on your dime. Must be nice earning 3 days salary for a hour of labor. Most of these women do not respect 75% of foreigners. A lot of the drink sluts do well since they are in position to decline 10+% of barfine propositions. For mongers that got sure go for it. But that does not mean she will like the guy who paid her double her rates more than the guy who shagged for free or jollibees.

NewImage
04-29-16, 09:42
Nice report. Your message includes "why old". This is probably the intrusive auto correct that is in place. What did you mean? Curious minds want to know!Suppose to be 26 year old.

NewImage
04-29-16, 09:55
Good reports, keep them coming. As for finding EDSA expensive, wait till you get to Burgos. Also, if my memory serves me right the barfine in EDSA is 1950 P. Probably rounding off error?Yeah BF 1950 - bit like Kl spas 198 - yeah let's just say 200!

50 peso = 1 US, 2 MYR = less than 1 US. Surely some people don't count their pennies, do they?

GoodEnough
04-29-16, 23:25
Beware fellows because those extra pisos Donald gives goes into their young / handsome Filipino boyfriends' pocket. Their boyfriends' enjoy going to the finest restaurants on your dime. Must be nice earning 3 days salary for a hour of labor. Most of these women do not respect 75% of foreigners. A lot of the drink sluts do well since they are in position to decline 10+% of barfine propositions. For mongers that got sure go for it. But that does not mean she will like the guy who paid her double her rates more than the guy who shagged for free or jollibees.Interesting that you think tipping a girl Php5-10 is "paying fairly. " Try that with a girl from Burgos and see what happens. I don't know the source of your blanket generalizations, but, for the most part, I believe they're incorrect while Donald, who speaks from long and varied experience is correct. There's no doubt that over the past few years it's gotten more expensive here, and most of the ladies, regardless of the bar fine you've paid, expect a minimum of Php3,000; a far cry from the Php10 to which you've referred.

GE.

Cool
04-30-16, 02:32
Interesting that you think tipping a girl Php5-10 is "paying fairly. " Try that with a girl from Burgos and see what happens. I don't know the source of your blanket generalizations, but, for the most part, I believe they're incorrect while Donald, who speaks from long and varied experience is correct. There's no doubt that over the past few years it's gotten more expensive here, and most of the ladies, regardless of the bar fine you've paid, expect a minimum of Php3,000; a far cry from the Php10 to which you've referred.

GE.All girls are not equal as far as body, youth, beauty, and personality. Yes, they can hope and aspire for 3 k but the market may not allow that. Is 3 k fair from freelancers who have cut out the bar? Also I have seen some girls that were hotter than higher priced / tier girls. Plus for your 3 k your not assured of a winner. Note: I am not an older white man. Value is subjective but as someone else say WGs outnumber customers especially customers who just want to drink and look and not barfine. I was not referring to myself and don't practice those habits. Did you glean that I was over tipping my first 10 weeks? Some guys avoid weekend nights or just look at the big Korean bars and shop elsewhere. Your partially right. Bargain shopper have different venues and should be able to find entertainment that fit their budget. The girl can reject their proposal. Funny, you never talk about their fellow Asians screwing them over. How much is there bar paying them if they sell no drink and voluntary / involuntary have no barfine? ($2-$12) What is a bar to do when their girls reject most of their barfine proposals. Lose the wise customers that run away from the drink sluts? Also with the 5 pisos I was referring to waitresses on drinks and food. I've heard of guys tipping girls nothing. Especially in Latin America.

D Cups
04-30-16, 04:44
I happen to agree with Cool: I am a generous guy but not THAT generous. Maybe it is my rugged good looks and guitar-playing charm but I don't pay those prices and still have a lot a sexy 20-something fun.


I pay fairly. I had some FLs I met through a NY friend who took the meal deal over board (6 meals total). All mongers cannot afford to overcompensate or the expats that live here full time may have to cut out some sessions a month to compensate. Filipinos will take advantage of you. When I first arrived I was over tipping for 10 weeks until I ran across a Phil website. I noticed older white males tipping only 5 and 10 pisos. I asked my expat friend who has 40 years of experience here and he coached me on the market rate. It's best to stay at market rate for the brotherhood or you drive up prices for the next fellow. At first I had to make sure a pinay didn't hack your account like Tunsil the NFL draft pick (MIA). Beware fellows because those extra pisos Donald gives goes into their young / handsome Filipino boyfriends' pocket. Their boyfriends' enjoy going to the finest restaurants on your dime. Must be nice earning 3 days salary for a hour of labor. Most of these women do not respect 75% of foreigners. A lot of the drink sluts do well since they are in position to decline 10+% of barfine propositions. For mongers that got sure go for it. But that does not mean she will like the guy who paid her double her rates more than the guy who shagged for free or jollibees..

Ms Account
04-30-16, 07:11
I happen to agree with Cool: I am a generous guy but not THAT generous. Maybe it is my rugged good looks and guitar-playing charm but I don't pay those prices and still have a lot a sexy 20-something fun.

.I generally find girls in Manila are more streetwise and there is far more money floating around Manila so girls expect more. But I guess it does depend on what you seek / accept. An average looking girl may accept happily less then 3 K. But I will quote a few examples where I find 3 K for good looking young girls is unrealistic. Maybe also my view is tainted by poor negotiation skills and I am always transparent upfront so there is no confusion afterwards.

A stunner from one website (one of the prettiest I have been with) would not budge off 6 K per meeting (negotiated down from 10 K per meeting). I did show her photo on a previous report. She dumped me for a guy paying her 25 K per month apartment plus allowance (she wouldn't tell me the allowance).

A regular current bar girl I pay 4 K each time I meet. It is 50/50 whether she shows up. She is probably one of the best looking on Burgos. She is currently working so I won't say which bar. She is making 80 K+ per month. A guy took her out of the bar scene for 6 months for 40 K per month plus apartment.

I know these are isolated extreme examples. But I just don't meet naive young attractive girls in Manila who would happily meet me for a few k. I must be in a different Manila.

Cool
04-30-16, 12:11
Gentleman,

I am in the wrong thread. I was referring to AC. I have paid EDSA rates 3 times and got scammed by an EDSA girl the last time I hired a Pinay there. My main emphasis was on his 50+% tipping for LT girls. I know Manila is more expensive. I do not like Makati. I enjoyed Wow Wow Bar 3 years ago but it wasn't the same this winter.


I generally find girls in Manila are more streetwise and there is far more money floating around Manila so girls expect more. But I guess it does depend on what you seek / accept. An average looking girl may accept happily less then 3 K. But I will quote a few examples where I find 3 K for good looking young girls is unrealistic. Maybe also my view is tainted by poor negotiation skills and I am always transparent upfront so there is no confusion afterwards.

A stunner from one website (one of the prettiest I have been with) would not budge off 6 K per meeting (negotiated down from 10 K per meeting). I did show her photo on a previous report. She dumped me for a guy paying her 25 K per month apartment plus allowance (she wouldn't tell me the allowance).

A regular current bar girl I pay 4 K each time I meet. It is 50/50 whether she shows up. She is probably one of the best looking on Burgos. She is currently working so I won't say which bar. She is making 80 K+ per month. A guy took her out of the bar scene for 6 months for 40 K per month plus apartment.

I know these are isolated extreme examples. But I just don't meet naive young attractive girls in Manila who would happily meet me for a few k. I must be in a different Manila.

Member #4387
04-30-16, 13:13
I pay fairly. I had some FLs I met through a NY friend who took the meal deal over board (6 meals total). All mongers cannot afford to overcompensate or the expats that live here full time may have to cut out some sessions a month to compensate. Filipinos will take advantage of you. When I first arrived I was over tipping for 10 weeks until I ran across a Phil website. I noticed older white males tipping only 5 and 10 pisos. I asked my expat friend who has 40 years of experience here and he coached me on the market rate. It's best to stay at market rate for the brotherhood or you drive up prices for the next fellow. At first I had to make sure a pinay didn't hack your account like Tunsil the NFL draft pick (MIA). Beware fellows because those extra pisos Donald gives goes into their young / handsome Filipino boyfriends' pocket. Their boyfriends' enjoy going to the finest restaurants on your dime. Must be nice earning 3 days salary for a hour of labor. Most of these women do not respect 75% of foreigners. A lot of the drink sluts do well since they are in position to decline 10+% of barfine propositions. For mongers that got sure go for it. But that does not mean she will like the guy who paid her double her rates more than the guy who shagged for free or jollibees.I think me and you have different agenda. Burgous i would not touch with a stickfork and even never go close to it. What kind of BF whatever you guys claim are reasonable or not doesn't affect me at all and i am totaly uninterested. We simply hunt from a different segment of girls, which brings me in to mymain point; "don't be afraid I pay what some would consider "top dollars", I am think not and that's 3 k to 5/6 k php." If I continued work as captain(pilot)in Scandinavian Airlines System (SAS) 7 k php is what I made hourly more like 11kphp. I freek out when I hear guys brag about getting freebies and or think a jolly meal is enough providing the girls their nice dick and thats it. Well to each his own.
Thats pure stupid bcs a jolly meal can only keep her full for like a couple of hours. Again I don't think the BG fantast ever are going to understand the mind of my girls but what ive learned over the years is that they are selfproviding, often live in bought or rented apts, have nice work (police, doctor, dentist, cabincrew, gvmnts, biz whatsoever etc etc). I pay what I pay and I think its even cheap what I do pay. But me paying, or what you would call it, overpaying is my choice and still I find it extremely cheap. Sharpen up guys, my girls won't destroy anything in Burgous as they despite the place.
Aaying this an occational BG slips under my radar, its not like i dont fuck her, i do, and i fuck her well. She gets 3k.. Thats it.. To me very small ammount but i dont want to devide what i make into the minute bcs then some of u would go bananas..

Sammon
04-30-16, 13:53
I think me and you have different agenda. Burgous i would not touch with a stickfork and even never go close to it. What kind of BF whatever you guys claim are reasonable or not doesn't affect me at all and i am totaly uninterested. We simply hunt from a different segment of girls, which brings me in to mymain point; "don't be afraid I pay what some would consider "top dollars", I am think not and that's 3 k to 5/6 k php." I pay what I pay and I think its even cheap what I do pay. But me paying, or what you would call it, overpaying is my choice and still I find it extremely cheap. Sharpen up guys, my girls won't destroy anything in Burgous as they despite the place.
Aaying this an occational BG slips under my radar, its not like i dont fuck her, i do, and i fuck her well. She gets 3k.. Thats it.. To me very small ammount but i dont want to devide what i make into the minute bcs then some of u would go bananas..There are no different segment of girls in mongering. Philippine girls who are ready to open their legs right away are not doing it because they are horny and just want sex like in western countries without any money involved. Of course if you pay more they are more likely to come to you if you want them again.

Not all mongers can afford to pay a lot. They can hardly manage the airfare, cannot afford to stay at upscale hotels or apartments and cannot afford stunners. Whether what you consider as upscale girls according to your opinion you exclusively find as for sex it does not matter. Everybody is looking for good satisfying sex and company from any girl. If she is good looking arm candy it is a plus. In a place like Philippines even what we consider as well paying jobs the girls I have met say they are making just about to meet ends. They have lot of obligation to family and manage their own needs.

Throwing lots of money around to girls is what happened to Angeles city. I remember few years ago you can get nice young juicy province girls who become GFE and stay all night and fuck any number of times and leave in the morning all for a bar fine. Nobody gave tips and girls did not expect any. You know the story now. Even when I offered to take them for breakfast they declined saying they do not like American style breakfast and they will get cheap food for 20 pesos which they are used to and satisfies them.

What you do is your own business but do not justify as a preacher with your rules.

CallSign Papa
04-30-16, 14:06
One of the marvellous things about Manila is that it really does cater to all tastes. If you have the time and energy to cultivate contacts, it's easy to line up freebies (but in my experience, this comes with a fair amount of chatting to establish trust and define expectations). For me the clubs in the Fort are where the real action happens.

If you don't have the time or inclination for that, there's burgos / Havana, where you pay through the nose but ultimately it's pussy on a plate.

The one thing I think we would all agree on is that we're not there to take advantage of girls who voluntarily come over to bump uglies. Those guys that do usually get called out on this forum pretty damn quickly and rightly so.

That's not to say that pinays are innocents in all this. We are know they can be scheming, duplicitous, hypocritical, lying, cheating bitches, but goddamn I love them anyway.

Member #4387
04-30-16, 14:48
There are no different segment of girls in mongering. Philippine girls who are ready to open their legs right away are not doing it because they are horny and just want sex like in western countries without any money involved. Of course if you pay more they are more likely to come to you if you want them again.

Not all mongers can afford to pay a lot. They can hardly manage the airfare, cannot afford to stay at upscale hotels or apartments and cannot afford stunners. Whether what you consider as upscale girls according to your opinion you exclusively find as for sex it does not matter. Everybody is looking for good satisfying sex and company from any girl. If she is good looking arm candy it is a plus. In a place like Philippines even what we consider as well paying jobs the girls I have met say they are making just about to meet ends. They have lot of obligation to family and manage their own needs.

Throwing lots of money around to girls is what happened to Angeles city. I remember few years ago you can get nice young juicy province girls who become GFE and stay all night and fuck any number of times and leave in the morning all for a bar fine. Nobody gave tips and girls did not expect any. You know the story now. Even when I offered to take them for breakfast they declined saying they do not like American style breakfast and they will get cheap food for 20 pesos which they are used to and satisfies them.

What you do is your own business but do not justify as a preacher with your rules.Thank you for your heads up. You obviously not understand Nything about my girls. Yes I probably have a bigger budget than most but still my girls are very different from a bar girl or a freelancer one. I've did the freelancing in neggining here but then I found out there are other ways to bed them pinays. It has so far been a success. Don't want to chickenfight you through a keyboard and we all pay what we feel is okay. When I pay like 15 min of my actual work time, beeing it is 3 to 5/6 php for a few hrs its my problem. No one of my girls are asking anything and they don't know if they get something. I am not trying to ride the big horse but mentioning Bargirls to me is evaluated as nothing / inch / nada as I've never been in a nasty bar in Phils. Notmy kind of idea of big fun. We just agree to disagree, I meet my "victims" my way and you urs way. I bet they more happy leaving my place than urs if your a cheapo. I don't hardly do repeats. Well a few airlinerelated girls are exceptions happy hunting.

Sammon
04-30-16, 15:37
Thank you for your heads up. You obviously not understand Nything about my girls. Yes I probably have a bigger budget than most but still my girls are very different from a bar girl or a freelancer one. I've did the freelancing in neggining here but then I found out there are other ways to bed them pinays. It has so far been a success. Don't want to chickenfight you through a keyboard and we all pay what we feel is okay. When I pay like 15 min of my actual work time, beeing it is 3 to 5/6 php for a few hrs its my problem. No one of my girls are asking anything and they don't know if they get something. I am not trying to ride the big horse but mentioning Bargirls to me is evaluated as nothing / inch / nada as I've never been in a nasty bar in Phils. Notmy kind of idea of big fun. We just agree to disagree, I meet my "victims" my way and you urs way. I bet they more happy leaving my place than urs if your a cheapo. I don't hardly do repeats. Well a few airlinerelated girls are exceptions happy hunting.Whatever you do is your private business. Do not be lulled saying it gives you bragging rights. Nobody I know who go or lives in Philippines brags about the girls they get. You are an exception. Pussy is so easy to come by and nothing to gloat over.

The END.

Member #4387
04-30-16, 19:36
Whatever you do is your private business. Do not be lulled saying it gives you bragging rights. Nobody I know who go or lives in Philippines brags about the girls they get. You are an exception. Pussy is so easy to come by and nothing to gloat over.

The END.I brag then. I think over the years i brag a lot. U obviously have something against me and my methods. I dont deal with BG or FL's:-) thats it.. Have my own system and it works like a Platinum Rolex:-) I have bragging rights due to freedom of speach if this how u and others view my postings. I am the exception then as i dont even like phils. I like the pukie found here and i find the nice pukie all the time. I am not ashamed saying better pukie than most. I dont have a budget thanks God. The end..

Cool
05-01-16, 01:50
I think me and you have different agenda. Burgous i would not touch with a stickfork and even never go close to it. What kind of BF whatever you guys claim are reasonable or not doesn't affect me at all and i am totaly uninterested. We simply hunt from a different segment of girls, which brings me in to mymain point; "don't be afraid I pay what some would consider "top dollars", I am think not and that's 3 k to 5/6 k php." If I continued work as captain(pilot)in Scandinavian Airlines System (SAS) 7 k php is what I made hourly more like 11kphp. I freek out when I hear guys brag about getting freebies and or think a jolly meal is enough providing the girls their nice dick and thats it. Well to each his own.
Thats pure stupid bcs a jolly meal can only keep her full for like a couple of hours. Again I don't think the BG fantast ever are going to understand the mind of my girls but what ive learned over the years is that they are selfproviding, often live in bought or rented apts, have nice work (police, doctor, dentist, cabincrew, gvmnts, biz whatsoever etc etc). I pay what I pay and I think its even cheap what I do pay. But me paying, or what you would call it, overpaying is my choice and still I find it extremely cheap. Sharpen up guys, my girls won't destroy anything in Burgous as they despite the place.
Aaying this an occational BG slips under my radar, its not like i dont fuck her, i do, and i fuck her well. She gets 3k.. Thats it.. To me very small ammount but i dont want to devide what i make into the minute bcs then some of u would go bananas..So there is a possibility you had free airfare and lodging. Everyone doesn't have a company credit card. While I do not practice cheapskate practices those scenarios happen often. If the local boys got into a bidding war with you foreigners would lose their appeal. Deep pocket and. Asians have messed AC up.

Member #4387
05-01-16, 05:51
Recent stay in Makati / Malate (don't like Malate but New World Manila Bay Hotel is nice) I've encountered some challenges logisticwice. I need drinking a lot to participate in the playgames and in my last stay I did major fuck up. Having 2 girls arriving same time (socalled double booking). I was so humble when walking down to lobby to fetch one of the girls. By this fetching I saw the other girl sitting around the lobby. I told her / asked her if she would like to wait a few minutes but ahe bailed claiming ivd to many girls (she's right). The other girl seemed unaffected so we went up to room for fucking. They are forgiving girls after all.

Member #4387
05-01-16, 10:43
Donations; 3/5000 php each time. Relax my girls are to my knowledge not attached to the seedy environment I wouldn't know squat what is cheap or what is generous. In that way I don't feel I am to blame for the neverending debate of the neverending increasing prices (normal for almost everyting in the rest of the world but it seems some think price of pukie should stay the same as 10 years ago here, hehe). My girls are screened from my fake FB and even if I am sure a few seedy girls slips under my radar I know most of them are good hard working girls. Some with god jobs, some with rich parents, some good students and some from the poorer side of life but still honorable women etc etc. There are never any talk about money upfront and if that happens the girl is ditched. I have a live stock from 1700 girls to choose from by now (still growing), so if someone failes my screening process, I just move on to the next one. Another way I do screening is I only do girls able to string together a good sentense or two or they are able to answer one or more question at the same time. This have increased the quality of our short time together considerably as these girls would also be able to talk some sense and not only play their phone / watch cartoons between sessions.

This trip I wanted to try out a new twist just to check how money hungry the girls were so I didn't offer any money at all when session ended. Here are the results;.

27 girls in total. 3 girls stood just waiting and didn't say anything but wouldn't go. This were girls I upfront may suspected slipping under my radar. I gave them 3 K.

2 girls asked humbly for some small cash for transportation. Just to finish up the donation process I gave these two girls 4 K.

22 girls just left more or less happy, but on a few of them and their faces I could see small hesitations but nothing much. I guess this are the girls guys hunting for freebies easily can exploit. They would be to shy to ask anything. Some of you would think feed them a Jolly meal is enough. For the most parts it was no einstein to do the freebierun in Makati but I felt like shit myself. 4 from the 22 remaining were repeatgirls so we are on a different compensation scheduel as they get gifts every now and then but not everytime (cabincrewgirls and above).

To pay my guilt money I have contacted all 18 remaining girls for their real details so I could WU money to them. From the 18 girls 12 of them have responded positivly on my gift request. 6 didn't care for any gift.

Since I like to stay quite and not expose myself to much a friend of mine been handed the task WUing 5 K to each and one of the 12 remaining girls. Feels good.

Sammon
05-01-16, 14:53
I brag then. I think over the years i brag a lot. U obviously have something against me and my methods. I dont deal with BG or FL's:-) thats it.. Have my own system and it works like a Platinum Rolex:-) I have bragging rights due to freedom of speach if this how u and others view my postings. I am the exception then as i dont even like phils. I like the pukie found here and i find the nice pukie all the time. I am not ashamed saying better pukie than most. I dont have a budget thanks God. The end..It looks like your boasting has not stopped. Your reports are nothing of value to this board. The way you throw around money and get " good " girls to open their legs only to you is misguided and outright childish. As everybody knows having a good time in Philippines is to stay under the radar and not [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off many as you are doing. Will your money hush them up? You will be badly mistaken. Over the years there were many guys here who openly boasted how they get " normal" girls and gotten into trouble. All it takes it one you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off to get you into lot of trouble. By all means you are not a wealthy man if you have to come to Philippines to pursue your hobby. Wealthy men do not go to poor countries for fun. They can get very beautiful girls anywhere.

In case you have forgotten this forum is to educate members about our hobby. Unless you throw money around in Angeles or any other bars filled with obvious bar girls, with so called "normal" girls you need to be carefull. As everybody knows Philippine guys can be mean and nasty if you mistreat their girls or offer money openly. Just go to a Philippine bar and try to make a move and you will find out. Same goes if you invite them to your place. Again Money does not hush them up.

I suggest if you are going to post, post trip reports in a manner which will benefit other mangers new or experienced. If you want to keep boasting open your own website if you can afford which I doubt.

Hutsori
05-02-16, 17:55
Your reports are nothing of value to this board.Though you don't value his reports, I encourage you to speak only for yourself, ex. "I don't value your reports." Truth be told, not many people raise the same complaints as you. As few do, but the majority are either silent or find value in his reports.


The way you throw around money and get " good " girls to open their legs only to you is misguided and outright childish.In the years he's been posting the only hassle he's had is from people, presumably men, likely foreign, contacting girls they recognise from the photos. If anyone is behaving childishly, it's them. Further, it's not only him who avoids the bars and uses social media to find regular girls. As for "throwing money around", a night's entertainment at Burgos (bar hopping, drinks, bar fine, payment to girl, and tip) will cost a person about the same as his entertaining two or three girls at his place. It's downright economical.


In case you have forgotten this forum is to educate members about our hobby.It's not up to him to determine what others find educational or not. He's not a mind reader. Just like anyone else, he posts his FRs. It's up to the reader to decide whether or not his experience has lessons applicable to their own situation. There are plenty of commentators here, and the board would be quite dull if they all had the same experience or, worse still, were led to believe that there is only one or two ways of doing things.


I suggest if you are going to post, post trip reports in a manner which will benefit other mangers new or experienced.I'm sure there's a lot to learn from his reports. Some may learn that they're not up to the task. Others may learn they don't have the time, or the money, or the inclination. And others may find his reports a source of inspiration and know-how. For one person to decide he alone determines what is of benefit to others has the stink of authoritarianism.

God forbid someone has experiences that aren't the same as yours and dares to write about it. ISG has a block reports feature. If a commentator offers advice that flies in the face of your biases and challenges your understanding of how things work here, you can always choose to use it. It's a great way to reduce things that irritate you or challenge your certainty.

MrWoolyBooly
05-02-16, 20:18
ISG has a block reports feature.


you can always choose to use it.Hear, hear.

D Cups
05-02-16, 22:58
speak only for yourself,I've enjoyed most reports and joking around on here including Huts and Sammon. Learned a tremendous amount as a newbie. Still get lots of valuable info. But Huts: don't false report the closing of Manila Bay and the others. Some people actually believed your April's foolishness. You could have caused an international suicide pact. For the chronic naysayer and agitator the ignore function works great! Cheers.

Sammon
05-03-16, 03:21
Though you don't value his reports, I encourage you to speak only for yourself, ex. "I don't value your reports." Truth be told, not many people raise the same complaints as you. As few do, but the majority are either silent or find value in his reports.

In the years he's been posting the only hassle he's had is from people, presumably men, likely foreign, contacting girls they recognise from the photos. If anyone is behaving childishly, it's them. Further, it's not only him who avoids the bars and uses social media to find regular girls. As for "throwing money around", a night's entertainment at Burgos (bar hopping, drinks, bar fine, payment to girl, and tip) will cost a person about the same as his entertaining two or three girls at his place. It's downright economical.

It's not up to him to determine what others find educational or not. He's not a mind reader. Just like anyone else, he posts his FRs. It's up to the reader to decide whether or not his experience has lessons applicable to their own situation. There are plenty of commentators here, and the board would be quite dull if they all had the same experience or, worse still, were led to believe that there is only one or two ways of doing things.

I'm sure there's a lot to learn from his reports. Some may learn that they're not up to the task. Others may learn they don't have the time, or the money, or the inclination. And others may find his reports a source of inspiration and know-how. For one person to decide he alone determines what is of benefit to others has the stink of authoritarianism.

God forbid someone has experiences that aren't the same as yours and dares to write about it. ISG has a block reports feature. If a commentator offers advice that flies in the face of your biases and challenges your understanding of how things work here, you can always choose to use it. It's a great way to reduce things that irritate you or challenge your certainty.Either you did not read my post fully or you like this kind of boasting in this forum. He was saying he gets all the best girls in Manila because he has lots of money and can get the best girls money can buy. As we all know girls who go for money are not naive ones. They will open their legs to anybody who throws money. I reiterate is childish to think they open their legs only to him or you if you do the same.

Go back and read his post and my comments in its entirety.

Obviously your way of getting girls in Philippines is the same for you to support him Throw money and they will come!

As everybody who has been in this forum for a long time knows Philippines is the easiest place to get pros, non pros, country next door type girls etc easily with little effort. You do not need to be loaded. In spite of the changes of mongering places all over the world Philippines is still the cheapest destination. It is definitely not beneficial info to newbies to report anything otherwise.

I have read many of your reports as well which is full of misinformation.

Mua Tur
05-03-16, 04:27
Some people actually believed your April's foolishness."April's foolishness" ! Whats's that? Need to learn more about that.

Praj4
05-03-16, 05:29
In Shanghai you need to pay 250 usd to lay a model looking curvy babe while in Manila an equally GFE babe could solicit only 100 usd from you. Of course with sustained sex exercise both babes turn extremely GFE.

Anyway! Well, end satisfaction is same! But an average looking sturdy babe would cost you only half of that. Decided to take home 2 babes from LA cafe on Mobini road. You need to pay barfine of 350 pesso in the the form of lady drink.

For each babe. Most of these babes who gather there are hookers, by rule they are moms with at least 1 kid back home, however youthful in their twenties!. Selected one smiley, average height, good English speaking babe. During lady drink, you could feel her to ascertain her body.

Status over her clothes while you also engage her in decent conversation. Firstly she stated 3000, later 2500 pesso, then there I earmarked her and sounded for second one for same cost. Once we were back to apartment, its was bath time followed by 2 HR 30 min long marathon alternating between the two.

In variety of position and at least 6 condom change. Girls obviously don't allow you to enter with used see!! Both girls were moms of 19 -23 yr old, and as usual girls turn always GFE in sustained game play. Provided they are not overworked. In such a hose-full bars, babes don't get client everyday and they do not visit everybody.

As a result they make most of it whenever they get chance!! Sex fun and money too!!

ThomKatt
05-03-16, 08:36
Hey fellas,

Long and overdue post. So I didn't have the best time in AC, but Manila definitely made up for it. I stayed at the Rothman hotel so I was pretty close to the action, but I didn't like the layout around the area. Essentially, everything is pretty spread out, and there wasn't a huge cluster of places together. I decided to go check out EDSA complex instead. I walked right in without getting patted down, the security guy was pretty cool, he ended up being my host and introducing me to the mamasans of every place in there.

I started out at Casino and the entire place was pretty empty except for one or two other guys. Actually, the entire complex was pretty empty, which means I had all the attention (good and bad). I didn't see anyone I liked, most of the girls on stage were occupied with what was on TV and didn't seem to be happy to be there. The place is large and has a good viewing area. I eventually saw a beautiful girl, her name is Jade. Sat her down, talked to her, she was willing to do everything I asked: kiss, BBBJ, and CIM (she said she's never done this before, but will for me). The bar fine rate is standard everywhere (1950 I think), it's the exact same at every place I went to, I believe it's the same owners, so you won't be able to haggle on that price. The services, time, and price to the girl would be the haggling items. All the girls wanted to exact same price if I recall. I told her I would be back if I don't find anyone better. She kisses me deeply to try to convince me, but I wanted to explore my options.

I head to Samba. The place is a bit smaller, and cozier than casino, it gives you a good view of the stage. I saw a cute girl, Aris. Same thing, same price, same extras. She's a cute little pinay girl, with a demure attitude. But nothing about her says she would rock my world. I tell her the same thing I told Jade.

Next, the bouncer shows me to cotton club, before I even walked in, I saw this gorgeous door girl. Her name is Joanna, very adorable with a tight body, incredibly gorgeous face. However, she was not open to the CIM, but that was a deal breaker for me. The place itself was pretty big. More like a strip club, with a stage in the middle and pole dancers on it

I keep yelling at the bouncer because I keep leaving empty handed, I'm pretty trashed at this point as well and he brings me to Pit Stop. This racing themed bar is pretty much like Casino, except it was pretty annoying with the noise and music. I had Ariel come talk to me, and she was super funny and adorable. She was really into whatever I wanted, feisty little girl. She was genuinely laughing at all of my jokes. I love a good sense of humor on a woman. I could tell she would CIM, and suck every last drop out of me. But I wanted to check out at least one more place before I make a decision.

Bouncer brings me to Bows and Arrows. The place was rather small, the stage was high up but nicely lit so you could see the girl very well. There were 3 gorgeous women here, and one of them was being super flirty and fun with me. Her name is Micah, and she was this tall, slim, and sultry woman with a gorgeous face. She was my favorite out of the entire EDSA, she agreed to everything I asked for (although she never did CIM before, but will try), gave me a discount for long time, and we were about to leave until she asked me if I wanted to take her friend, Margo. Margo was the 3rd best looking on stage, gorgeous nonetheless. I told her I can't handle two women and I've never had a 3 some before. After some convincing and negotiating, I ended up taking both of them.

We headed to Makati to check out some of the bars there. We started out at dimples, and as soon as I walked in, I walked right back out. It was empty, with 1 customer, and 1 dancer. The bouncer laughed when that happened. It's a Saturday night! What happened to this place? Next we headed to Bourbon st, which is actually a nice place. The large stage area has lots of girls dancing and doing acts. We stayed here for a bit before we headed to crazy horse, and this place wasn't that great either. It's a small place, with a pool area on the 2nd floor. I'm really sad to see these places have gone down the drain. We headed to ringside bar to catch a midget boxing match before we decided to head back. I'm pretty plastered at this point.

Back at the hotel we showered together, the girls were more occupied with cleaning themselves than cleaning me, although it was pretty fun to watch them clean each other. They happen to be very good friends and do 3 some pretty often, so I assumed I would be in for a treat. Both girls have small boobs, slim bodies, and tight high butts. It starts out good with Micah dfking me while margo bbjs. And then they switch, but they had a warm wet towel ready to clean my junk off, which is not how they do it in the pornos!

After awhile, I'm ready to go to pound town with one of them, and I start with Margo first, since she seemed a lot more fun. However, Micah went to smoke a cigarette and watch me rail her friend. This wasn't the 3 some that was happening in my mind. This is essentially me just banging two girls separately. I've read so many posts about this happening, and I kind of knew it was going to be the same here. Oh well. I start out in Mish with DFK, then doggie (at this point I tell the girls this wasn't the 3 some I imagined, so Micah comes and makes out with me from behind and helps push me into Margo), but I've had so much to drink there was no way I was going to nut. I lay down, had Margo lie to my right, while massaging my family jewels and making out with me, and had Micah on my left arm while I groped her body and I jerked myself. Once ready, I told Margo, and she brought her head and I blew my load up her nose and then the rest into her mouth. We all had a funny laugh from this.

They clean up and then ordered some Mcdonalds to be delivered. We take a 30 minute break. We had a decent conversation about the business. They both told me they haven't been barfined in about 3 weeks. Also, the girls make little money on the drinks, the bars raise the prices, making you think the money goes to the girls, when very little does, they pocket the rest, gouging us chumps. I confirmed this with Jade also (who I friended on Tinder).

Back into action again. Same thing with Micah: mish with DFK, doggie, and then jerked myself while she made out with me on my right, both massaged my balls, and Margo on my left getting groped. Micah is making out with me hardcore and making all of the sexy noises while doing and stroking me hard. She was being so sultry that it was all I needed to help nut. I tell Micah I'm ready, and she takes my entire load into her mouth and she's gagging the entire time. Hahaha she goes to the bathroom to gag some more and tells me she hates me. Margo and I are laughing our butts off.

It was such a sexy night and time. I asked the girls to sell me their panties, they obliged. I got some of their juices on it to help me remember their smell and taste. I'm such a perv hahaha.

If anyone wants their contact info, pm me. I keep in contact with them for future trips

All in all, it was a pretty great time, that offset the mediocre time I had in AC. Happy Hunting boys!

Hutsori
05-03-16, 11:06
Either you did not read my post fully or you like this kind of boasting in this forum.I read your comments thoroughly and even avoided commenting about the strawman you concocted. My take away was his "boasts" are merely winding up or taking the p1ss out of folks like you.


He was saying he gets all the best girls in Manila because he has lots of money and can get the best girls money can buy.'Best' is subjective. Seeing the photos he's posted here I think he gets high quality lookers, e.g. solid 7's and 8's, maybe even a 9.


As we all know girls who go for money are not naive ones. They will open their legs to anybody who throws money. I reiterate is childish to think they open their legs only to him or you if you do the same.If you have read all his posts you'll should have understood he avoids girls looking for money. If they mention money he doesn't meet them. He's excluding people. Now, those who have met him and have received money know the deal.


Obviously your way of getting girls in Philippines is the same for you to support him Throw money and they will come!If paying p3000 is how you define "throwing money" then we have very different understanding of things. The only recipients of his "thrown money" are hotel owners, but I admit I have a bias against spending a lot of money for a bed. Plenty of nice places are available at more affordable rates.


As everybody who has been in this forum for a long time knows Philippines is the easiest place to get pros, non pros, country next door type girls etc easily with little effort. You do not need to be loaded. In spite of the changes of mongering places all over the world Philippines is still the cheapest destination. It is definitely not beneficial info to newbies to report anything otherwise.Who says one needs to be loaded? Is p3000 an example of overpaying? Is $60 loaded? Give me a break. From time to time we read of FRs by guys who have spent thousands more. We see requests for help finding top calibre girls by guys willing to pay p20,000. And we also see FRs by people who pay much less, sometimes not at all (those comments drive many here batty). This forum accepts all. It behooves the newbie to read many comments and decide which approach will work best for him.


I have read many of your reports as well which is full of misinformation.Great! I'm here to help.