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I've enjoyed most reports and joking around on here including Huts and Sammon. Learned a tremendous amount as a newbie. Still get lots of valuable info. But Huts: don't false report the closing of Manila Bay and the others. Some people actually believed your April's foolishness. You could have caused an international suicide pact. For the chronic naysayer and agitator the ignore function works great! Cheers.I was just about to hang myself. Good thing I read this first.
The D'Cups, you were the only one who believed it. Keep it real. X.
I've enjoyed most reports and joking around on here including Huts and Sammon. Learned a tremendous amount as a newbie. Still get lots of valuable info. But Huts: don't false report the closing of Manila Bay and the others. Some people actually believed your April's foolishness. You could have caused an international suicide pact. For the chronic naysayer and agitator the ignore function works great! Cheers.
Hey fellas,
Bouncer brings me to Bows and Arrows. The place was rather small, the stage was high up but nicely lit so you could see the girl very well. There were 3 gorgeous women here, and one of them was being super flirty and fun with me. Her name is Micah, and she was this tall, slim, and sultry woman with a gorgeous face. She was my favorite out of the entire EDSA,
It was such a sexy night and time. I asked the girls to sell me their panties, they obliged. I got some of their juices on it to help me remember their smell and taste. I'm such a perv hahaha.
If anyone wants their contact info, pm me. I keep in contact with them for future trips
All in all, it was a pretty great time, that offset the mediocre time I had in AC. Happy Hunting boys!Very good report TK. Not to quibble, but Micah's bar is named Bullets and Arrows and is one of my favorites. I always find cute and sexy girls there. I will definitely look up Micah on my next trip: my type. Here's Lara from November.
Hi guys,
I shall be visiting Manila in a weeks time after 10 yrs and last time, had fun with a 22 yr Non Pro, any leads you guys have on Working Office Girls, Students, etc? I like quality and OK for good return to the girl.
Wicked Roger
05-06-16, 03:35
Hi guys,
I shall be visiting Manila in a weeks time after 10 yrs and last time, had fun with a 22 yr Non Pro, any leads you guys have on Working Office Girls, Students, etc? I like quality and OK for good return to the girl.Plenty of advice on the Philippine board if you RTFF and spend some time reading what many have said lots of time before.
Your FR is what I see as a 'manager' class FR. All you other FRs are on India also. And this type of FR is prevalent in the UAE board unfortunately and most posters are from the same geographic location.
Ricardo Torres
05-06-16, 04:53
Plenty of advice on the Philippine board if you RTFF and spend some time reading what many have said lots of time before.
Your FR is what I see as a 'manager' class FR. All you other FRs are on India also. And this type of FR is prevalent in the UAE board unfortunately and most posters are from the same geographic location.Why not help the guy out instead of acting like an internet police officer? I am sure your kindness in doing so would be very appreciated by him.
Also taking receipts off of tables to use for your own expense reports is not a good thing WR.
You post a lot of helpful information so why not stick to being a contributor instead of feeling the need to antagonize others posters who might not have your experience.
Thank you for your many helpful contributions.
This board is for asking help, info and sharing experiences. If someone is asking for piece of advice you are always welcome to give the info or just ignore by not having any reply. Instead why you are showing your racial discrimination towards Asian and Middle East origin. Did any of this race made a very bad impact on your personal life? Be fair and respect each other rather pointing all your fingers to a particular race.
Plenty of advice on the Philippine board if you RTFF and spend some time reading what many have said lots of time before.
Your FR is what I see as a 'manager' class FR. All you other FRs are on India also. And this type of FR is prevalent in the UAE board unfortunately and most posters are from the same geographic location.
Wicked Roger
05-07-16, 05:14
This board is for asking help, info and sharing experiences. If someone is asking for piece of advice you are always welcome to give the info or just ignore by not having any reply. Instead why you are showing your racial discrimination towards Asian and Middle East origin. Did any of this race made a very bad impact on your personal life? Be fair and respect each other rather pointing all your fingers to a particular race.Nothing to do with race it is a fact. Look at the FR history facts don't lie WilBel, look at the Indian board and the banners (again facts don't lie). I pointed out supportable facts so what part of doing that is racist.
I suggest you RTFF in the UAE board for FRs from Joe Karnavic and Sylvan. Both very old and good mates. Then figure out what nationality they are before you throw assertions and make yourself lpok a tad silly. Always look at facts and FR history s my free advice (generally would charge for advice but you can get a freebie).
And as it happen TT and have FR each other which the the correct way to do it. Ad then I would likely just delete the FR as I get at too many requests from many like you who have little to contribute but plenty to ask LOL (look at your FR history. You even asked if Red Planet was a GF hotel!
And given I spend most of life working with Arabs (again check my FR history as this can been deduced) you comment about Middle East is wrong also.
You are an Indian in Denmark who thinks the world is against you (or something like that based on one of your 19 FRs).
This board is for asking help, info and sharing experiences. If someone is asking for piece of advice you are always welcome to give the info or just ignore by not having any reply. Instead why you are showing your racial discrimination towards Asian and Middle East origin. Did any of this race made a very bad impact on your personal life? Be fair and respect each other rather pointing all your fingers to a particular race.You are welcome to not butt in too. WR has been most helpful to me and others including Asians and ME. I do not discriminate but like many others have observed certain distasteful behaviors from certain groups and have formed some opinions.
You are also free to ignore this and free to not reply.
Why not help the guy out instead of acting like an internet police officer? I am sure your kindness in doing so would be very appreciated by him.
Also taking receipts off of tables to use for your own expense reports is not a good thing WR.
You post a lot of helpful information so why not stick to being a contributor instead of feeling the need to antagonize others posters who might not have your experience.
Thank you for your many helpful contributions.I didn't see anything hateful in WR responses. Simply told them to read the reports. Left unchecked there would be pages of "Can you help me out?
I guess that wasn't too nice of me either. Maybe a constructive solution would be a separate "Need Help" forum!
Ricardo Torres
05-07-16, 17:09
I didn't see anything hateful in WR responses. Simply told them to read the reports. Left unchecked there would be pages of "Can you help me out?
I guess that wasn't too nice of me either. Maybe a constructive solution would be a separate "Need Help" forum!I do owe Roger a big apology for a comment I made in my previous posting on this thread because I was out of line for posting it. I hope this post makes it to the forum since my previous apology did not.
Member #4566
05-07-16, 23:50
Why not help the guy out instead of acting like an internet police officer? I am sure your kindness in doing so would be very appreciated by him.
Also taking receipts off of tables to use for your own expense reports is not a good thing WR.
You post a lot of helpful information so why not stick to being a contributor instead of feeling the need to antagonize others posters who might not have your experience.
Thank you for your many helpful contributions.The Philippine thread has in some measure been commandeered by a handful of members who have established their own rules as to when a person can ask for information. They have chilling effect on the forum and discourage people from participating. Who needs a meddlesome and scolding member to chide them when they ask a question? They are stifling the vitality of the board.
WestCoast1
05-08-16, 00:35
The Philippine thread has in some measure been commandeered by a handful of members who have established their own rules as to when a person can ask for information.That's nothing new. It was like that (and unique to ISG's other forums) from roughly the time I started going to phils (way back, in the day before I was known here as WestCoast). I too got the "Hey newb, RTTF or ask newb questions in PM please" messages. As you can see, that had such a chilling effect that I decided not to go to phils and I never bothered posting anything here. So, I went ahead and PM'd the member who had told me to RTTF, and he kindly answered my question. I would much rather newbs send me (and other board regulars) their questions in PM that litter the board. However, that's just my opinion. Newbs who do ask questions and get answers rarely give back by posting an informative Field Report after their trip (taking without giving).
You have a choice: Feed the newbs in the hopes they will become future FR posters (chill, baby, but history shows they won't), or have newbs RTTF / PM instead. I'm not saying one way is better than the other, I'm saying that either way, you pay a price.
The Philippine thread has in some measure been commandeered by a handful of members who have established their own rules as to when a person can ask for information. They have chilling effect on the forum and discourage people from participating. Who needs a meddlesome and scolding member to chide them when they ask a question? They are stifling the vitality of the board.I doubt this thread or this website is the only place you see the acronym RTFF. Perhaps not the best example, but do would you do the same thing at work? You're assigned a new project. Do you immediately go to a coworker and say I don't know anything can you help me out, or do you do some research first then hit up the coworker to ask more intelligent questions?
Whenever I hire a new analyst, I always ask what sector they don't know well, then I give them a scenario of getting staffed on a project in that sector with a due diligence trip next week and ask to walk me through how they go about preparing for the trip. If they flunk this simple question, the interview goes no further. To me, not being prepared shows laziness and / or lack of common sense / respect. If people were smart, you don't even need to read 500 pages, just add a few words here or there to make it look like you've done some research. But if someone isn't bright enough to even do that, well they're hopeless.
Tiradentes
05-08-16, 01:50
I doubt this thread or this website is the only place you see the acronym RTFF.
.This issue can be easily solved if every destination had a cheat sheet that includes only the names of the best available clubs, sauna parlors, hotels, and places to stay pinned on top of the forum. There is no need for detailed info on that sheet. Then it is up to the reader to expand his research of a particular place based on his preference. When I visited Jakarta last year for the first time, I had no intention to reading 1000 pages of reports (mostly people arguing). Found on the internet a cheat sheet for Jakarta, then came here and used the search tool to get info for some on the establishments I am interested at (e. G. Mainly massage parlors).
MrWoolyBooly
05-08-16, 06:01
Maybe a constructive solution would be a separate "Need Help" forum!Agreed, something like a "Newbie Questions" forum would help both the newbies (which we all started as) and not provoke curmudgeonliness. I also have scant patience for those who don't RTFF with at least token effort.
Agreed, something like a "Newbie Questions" forum would help both the newbies (which we all started as) and not provoke curmudgeonliness. I also have scant patience for those who don't RTFF with at least token effort.The forum is divided into threads, such as this here, and user blogs, which have many different topics created by the users themselves and available to all. The commonly asked newbie-type questions such as "where to get viagra?", "changing money", "taking a taxi", and "how to wipe one's butt?" are there. Plus many more, some helpful and others less so. One just needs to scroll down the page; I suspect this is part of the problem because this requires people to look before they leap.
WestCoast1
05-08-16, 06:40
This issue can be easily solved if every destination had a cheat sheet that includes only the names of the best available clubs, sauna parlors, hotels, and places to stay pinned on top of the forum. Part of the problem lies in the simplicity of the initial question from the newb: It is near impossible to answer. "Where can I find the best girls?" And "What is the best hotel in Makati for my maiden voyage?" What does 'best' mean to this or that gent? We end up asking the newb to specify, and before long we are having a full-blown conversation with a member who will not be returning the favor.
Just what *are* the best hotels and clubs for our cheat-sheet?
Blanquiceleste
05-08-16, 07:56
Foreword I am not going to write long reports this time. Just a very brief summary of my trip. Those who might be interested in details, please PM me. That way, I can keep the riff raff out and play my part towards keeping the forum clean.
(29 Apr) Day 1 Landed in NAIA 3 by 1500 and reached Century Park Malate only by 1745. Welcome to the Philippines! My efforts on Facebook & Filipino Cupid yielded decent results and I had a very cute 22 yo join me by 7 pm. Now works in a mall as a shop assistant, but previously has worked at a Burgos bar. She left the next morning by 0800 for her work.
(30 Apr) Day 2 Morning began by 1100. I had some work cut out for the day. The better part of daylight was spent in checking off the boxes. Hit Burgos at 2000. Started at Plan be (what a paradox!) and I was not disappointed at all. Fee structures remain unchanged, Vanessa apparently no longer works there. The line-up is good, the air conditioning is good, the music is good and the waitresses are friendly. I noticed something new though there are girls walking around offering to play Bingo. Is this a new addition to the ways of extorting drinks? Long story short, I picked regular and had a wonderful night. She left just before lunch the next day.
(01 May) Day 3 After my regular from Plan be left I headed to Glorietta to meet this 19 yo I had lined up thru FC. Met her at Jollibee (surprise, surprise!) And later brought her back to the hotel for some nice honey-ko time. She left by 2100 and I headed to Burgos again by 2230. This time started at Kojax. The collection was stunning, but most of the girls were already occupied with Korean customers. Emmy still works there, got her a drink and chatted her up. She confessed that the bar is indeed veering towards pleasing their Asian patrons. I left after a drink and went downstairs to Hot Spot. Strange musty smell here, weak line up and hardly 3 occupied tables. Left immediately and landed up at Plan be. My regular was there on stage but I had other plans. I called her over for a drink and explained to her that I wanted a different girl tonight. She readily agreed to this suggestion and soon I had this very pretty 23 yo dancer by my side. She left my side the next day at 1100.
(02 May) Day 4 After this dancer left, I headed to Robinson to meet another FB line up at Starbucks. She turned up an hour late and after 20 messages. God bless these Filipinas' souls. However, this one was not exactly how she looks on FB. So after another hour I sent her away with some taxi money and headed over to MBC. Absolutely nothing at all to pick from. Plenty of pussy, if that is what you are after but don't expect great looks or a great body or a young barangay cutie. These are all professionals waiting for their daily baguette. After killing a couple of hours I went back to my hotel to wait for a girl I had lined up on FC. Sadly, she did not show up, as she got late at work. She stays in Las Pinas which is a good 2. 5 hour travel from Makati. She apologized profusely but that does not help my situation. I head out with a sullen face to Burgos again and take a look inside Moulin Rouge, Papillion, Rogues and Bottoms. Nothing fancied me. Back to Plan be only to learn that my regular was not working that night. So I get a drink and watch the line-up. Something about a tall girl with tattoos caught my fancy. Called her over for a drink. Best decision I made on this Manila visit. A rocking night I will remember for a long time.
(03 May) Day 5 I left for AC by noon. Rest of the FR to be continued in the Angeles City thread.
Had to laugh. "wipe (one's) butt" is an old cliche, but has additional meaning in the Philippines. You are in something called a CR which may or may not have a proper toilet seat. After sitting and doing your business, you notice that there is no toilet paper. Next to you is a tap, a bucket of water, and a ladle in the bucket. Whatchagonnado?
The forum is divided into threads, such as this here, and user blogs, which have many different topics created by the users themselves and available to all. The commonly asked newbie-type questions such as "where to get viagra?", "changing money", "taking a taxi", and "how to wipe one's butt?" are there. Plus many more, some helpful and others less so. One just needs to scroll down the page; I suspect this is part of the problem because this requires people to look before they leap.
Had to laugh. "wipe (one's) butt" is an old cliche, but has additional meaning in the Philippines. You are in something called a CR which may or may not have a proper toilet seat. After sitting and doing your business, you notice that there is no toilet paper. Next to you is a tap, a bucket of water, and a ladle in the bucket. Whatchagonnado?In all seriousness, what is the proper way to clean with the bucket and 1 liter ladle? No need for toilet paper as you just air dry!
I imagine there is no need for a toilet seat as they usually just squat over the toilet. Most toilets don't have the water tank so you flush by ladling water into the toilet.
BTW, I love the butt blaster hose. Super clean!
In all seriousness, what is the proper way to clean with the bucket and 1 liter ladle?
Remove ladle from bucket. Sit your butt in bucket. Using your fingers or ladle's handle clean yourself. Get in there good. Stand up. Shake your bum. Maybe jump too. Put ladle back in bucket.
BTW, I love the butt blaster hose. Super clean!The butt blaster hose is a joy, and when denied one a clever Pinay will get creative. Imagine my delight when I walked into the loo and my girl was seated on the throne and holding the shower head against her bung hole. I just couldn't wait to hop in the shower and wash my face and hair. There's showering, and then there's showering in fecal residue.
Really though, nothing compares to the Japanese electronic bidet. Once you're hooked you don't want to leave home for fear you'll have to do a poo elsewhere and miss out of the glory of the Japanese electronic bidet.
Member #4387
05-10-16, 05:49
Manage to squeeze in a small week in Manila / Makati (again). Stayed, like last time, at the New World Manila Bay Hotel. Even if it is located in Malate and most of "my" girls have some objections going here I make them google the place and then most of them cave in and come accordingly. I promise there will be no outside activities and the inside of the hotel perimeters provide all safety one can call for in a country like phils. Staying inside is not difficult for me as I don't strall the surroundings of this hotel very much and meet the girls inside the lobby only. I managed to penetrate 24 pussies in this 6 day stay. 3 to 4 girls a day is becoming the favorite numbers as this gives me enough ME timebetween sessions to do the rinsing, evidence removals, drinking and recoupe biz.
Major focus in this report will be on the subject of "screening girls (c2 c)" as I had 2 sour meet ups this trip. Usualy I have almost all my days fully booked for girls before touching down on phil soil. This trip I booked only one day ahead of travelling into phils and I simply didn't have time to make solid appointments with girls upfront ex for the 2 first days of my stay. I was planning on just do the rest of the bookings while airborne as Emirates normaly provides wifi onboard. Well this went shit as non of the two flights (OSL. DXB - MNL) did have wifi. Secundary plan was to just do the bookings from the hotel as in a day by day operation. I have a fleet of almost 2000 FB contacts by now to choose from and by sending out enough copy paste msgs I was sure this would work as well. On any given trip I need maybe on average to send out 50 to 60 copy paste msgs to fix myself 25 meet ups (an average enough to cover a small week need of girls). Naturaly someone won't respond and others have a busy scheduel and we can not find time for a meet. In addition to lets say 25 meetings I allways put up a subs list (of 10 girls or so) bcs things do happen and scheduels can change (for them and for me). When we agree a meet I browse their FB and their pictures. If I feel or smell something odd (Bargirl, FL or her pics seems shopped) I ask to go cam to cam (c2 c) to check. Only for a brief short second bcs I hate skyping in general as I realy don't have anything to say to the girls nor am I to interested in jibber jabbering.
3 first days this trip went like clockwork but on the 4'th day I got a sour one. She was booked under stressful circumstances as it was inbetween sessions and I was in a hurry. I didn't have the normal calm to investigate her, her profile nor her pics. I just briefly watched her viewable upfront pics and said okay. If I am nice I just call her fat so I gave her a job instead. She did my toenails. She asked why I didn't want to fuck or kiss her, so I gave her the laimest excuse I've ever given anyone so far and I quote; "I never have sex or kiss on the first date". I call this a small cute white lie at least. The rest of the day worked out fine and to be honest this gave me motivation for the next girl in line (steam boiling in my pipes). Day 5 another girl girl arrived under the fairly same circumstances. To bad screening and I missed her bad facial skin. In aftermath I checked out her profile closely and her missing front teeth I couldn't have noticed even through c2 c but I sure saw it when she was digging into the food I provided her (she opened her mouth). Without skin issues and with closed mouth the girl would be nice. I ditched her by creating an emergency I had to run for sorting out. I slipped her 2 k and bye bye.
So guys screening them girls are mandatory important. I didn't like my MO (or infact shift of MO) this trip as I didn't find my inner peace as I had to book girls from day to day. I will as shortly as possible go back to my normal MO. Anyway I am sure some of you would find some pleasure in I did have two bad meetings this trip, hehe. But 24 successes out 26 are not to bad me thinks. The last two days I spend at my home away from home. Ascott Makati.
Hi Guys,
Is this mall still active? I was there last week and wandered throughout (mainly the second floor) for about an hour with only being offered Viagra but no obvious action and certainly no mamasans. My timing was from 10 am opening.
Thanks P.
MrWoolyBooly
05-10-16, 22:16
Hi Guys,
Is this mall still active? I was there last week and wandered throughout (mainly the second floor) for about an hour with only being offered Viagra but no obvious action and certainly no mamasans. My timing was from 10 am opening.
Thanks P.I found a similar scene last month there. However, over the years I've seen it go from deserted to packs of eager ladies and back again. I can't figure out a pattern, unless maybe the management vacillates between cracking down and ignoring the activities.
Blanquiceleste
05-11-16, 01:26
I found a similar scene last month there. However, over the years I've seen it go from deserted to packs of eager ladies and back again. I can't figure out a pattern, unless maybe the management vacillates between cracking down and ignoring the activities.I was there towards the end of April and I saw some eager looking faces hanging around on the ground level, just outside shopwise. But I had a girl on my arm already so I could not make any moves.
FreebieFan
05-11-16, 03:00
I doubt this thread or this website is the only place you see the acronym RTFF. Perhaps not the best example, but do would you do the same thing at work? You're assigned a new project. Do you immediately go to a coworker and say I don't know anything can you help me out, or do you do some research first then hit up the coworker to ask more intelligent questions?
Whenever I hire a new analyst, I always ask what sector they don't know well, then I give them a scenario of getting staffed on a project in that sector with a due diligence trip next week and ask to walk me through how they go about preparing for the trip. If they flunk this simple question, the interview goes no further. To me, not being prepared shows laziness and / or lack of common sense / respect. If people were smart, you don't even need to read 500 pages, just add a few words here or there to make it look like you've done some research. But if someone isn't bright enough to even do that, well they're hopeless.In total agreement with every word stated here. We have all been new in various locales and have all done the required research. Or found out the hard way.
Can take a horse to the water but can't make it drink comes to mind.
In our instant world, its too easy to just ask for help.
And its equally easy for the contributors who do share, to suggest that people do some basic research.
People shouldn't be offended when these newbs ask questions on subjects that are easy to research.
I'm heading to Southern Africa soon, and I'm doing the relevant research. Why. Because its what a normal person with a curious mind does.
In total agreement with every word stated here. We have all been new in various locales and have all done the required research. Or found out the hard way.
Can take a horse to the water but can't make it drink comes to mind.
In our instant world, its too easy to just ask for help.
And its equally easy for the contributors who do share, to suggest that people do some basic research.
People shouldn't be offended when these newbs ask questions on subjects that are easy to research.
I'm heading to Southern Africa soon, and I'm doing the relevant research. Why. Because its what a normal person with a curious mind does.No worries for them anymore. Accommodations for their special needs have been made. There is now a space, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3802-Trigger-Warning-Newbie-Safe-Space.-A-gentle-friendly-and-non-judgmental-safe-area just for them where they can ask any type of question without fear of being terrorised by that panic inducing acronym.
If they choose to post outside the thread it not only shows they haven't RTFF, it also proves they haven't even bothered to scroll up and down to see what threads are available to them to find the info they seek. The blame falls entirely on them.
They now have three ways to find answers:
1) Read the comments and use the search function
2) Send a PM
3) Use the Safe Space
Member #4566
05-12-16, 01:11
it also proves they haven't even bothered, etc. The blame falls entirely on them. There is nothing to prove. You don't need to assess blame. You are being asked to let people ask questions however offensive you may find them. You can ignore them.
BobkBanner
05-12-16, 03:02
There is nothing to prove. You don't need to assess blame. You are being asked to let people ask questions however offensive you may find them. You can ignore them.Sounds like a sensible approach.
CallSign Papa
05-13-16, 17:56
Sounds like a sensible approach.Sensible has no business on this board. Never has, never will.
Landed at 11.30 am CATHAY pacific. Terminal 3 is a mess to catch taxi. Very long lines with parallel taxi mafia scouting for exorbitant prices. One quoted 1800 pesos to ermita. However after standing in the line for few minutes one guy came and said he can get me a taxi for 600. Agreed and he called somebody. A taxi pulls up and off we go. Traffic is bad but I guess at that time no exception. Got some load. No need for new SIM card. Previous one gets the signal still.
Checked in and had some numbers lined up. My first preference was previous GF who was 18 six months ago. Texted her not knowing if she changed her number as many girls do. Lo and behold she calls me. She said she is starting new job on Monday because her previous contract expired and she is free. Some lies to her family and she is in my room. Very pretty, young, nice body. Says she has not had sex since we met last time. Whenever she tried to go to disco her family will call her and ask her to go home not leaving any time to have fun. I remember her last time scared shit and came to meet me with her friend. I lied to her at that time saying only one girl is allowed in my room when she said her friend will stay in the bathroom while we had sex. Ultimately it was agreed that her friend will wait at nearest 7-11 . She ended up staying for 4 hours and horny as hell and we really enjoyed each other. Bled a little, some pain because she had only one previous experience with local. After that she trusted me and spent some more time with her.
This time she is 19. Her birthday last month. I gave her a nice phone in addition to money and some more gifts I had. This girl never made any demands. Very happy appreciative stayed two days. Great time together although apprehensive in public. So we stayed in the room most of the time. She said her friend is interested in me also when asked if both will stay with me she said no.
Whatever! Does not want to loose her. Did not push her. Jet lag, tired, raging sex in between, still some bleeding. This time I brought some ky and she appreciated it. Got sore all the same. Wants to wait for me when I come next time. She said she has not changed sim at all. Now I got her a dual sim. Not much change in body since last time.
Very tired after marathon sex with young cutie. Rest whole day while she went to work.
Back to the Internet scoping. Many gold diggers including one LB who refuses to admit what he is.
As for girls some want 4000 to 5000 , shopping trips etc. I did not come here to splurge. One wanted to meet me at MOA so that shopping can be done before anything. One said she had a Canadian BF who beat her up. Wanted 2000 plus 5000 in shopping. Another one wanted I phone 6 . Some cam with their whole family looking. Some wanted their parents blessing to stay with me. Managed to say no, no, no. Kept slogging through. Some looked like bargirls. Went to Manila bay cafe just to see. Quite crowded with some doable ones. Asking price is 3000 to 5000 LT. I was not interested in taking bar girl anyway.
Managed to bed one from dating site. Pic below. Pussy not tight as she had one baby. Otherwise ok. Came all the way from suburb she says.
Off to AC to check out. Lined up some non bargirls. Report to follow.
Blanquiceleste
05-17-16, 01:00
One quoted 1800 pesos to ermita. However after standing in the line for few minutes one guy came and said he can get me a taxi for 600. Agreed and he called somebody. Next time get UBER. Its petty seamless. You only got to go to the departures level to get picked up. It cost me 220 P in the same traffic snarl upto Harrison Plaza. Took almost an hour to get off the ramp and complete that blessed you turn and hit Resorts World Avenue.
By the look of the background in you picture, I would say that is Century Park?
GoodEnough
05-17-16, 01:03
Next time get UBER. Its petty seamless. You only got to go to the departures level to get picked up. It cost me 220 P in the same traffic snarl upto Harrison Plaza. Took almost an hour to get off the ramp and complete that blessed you turn and hit Resorts World Avenue.
By the look of the background in you picture, I would say that is Century Park?I agree, but you don't really need to go to Departures. I've just texted my location at Arrivals to the driver and have been picked up with no problems.
GE.
Manage to squeeze in a small week in Manila / Makati (again). I managed to penetrate 24 pussies in this 6 day stay.
The last two days I spend at my home away from home. Ascott Makati.24 pussies in 6 days and all this is without Viagra or any other supplement, are you fucking serious. I am 37 and I cannot fuck more than 2 pussies per day max and that also I need rest after every 2 days, I don't feel like even looking at a lady with me on the 3rd day I just want to be alone and relaxing.
Seriously man what do you eat or which medicine and do hop on to DXB for your next stay loads of Philles waiting there also for you.
Cheers,
Alex
If you Google "duturte naia" you will get a number of pages explaining, the end of the bullet scam naia. Courtesy Duturte.
Example: http://kickerdaily.com/duterte-warns-naia-personnel-pag-may-tanim-bala-pa-diyan-lahat-kayo-alis/.
Blanquiceleste
05-17-16, 14:57
I agree, but you don't really need to go to Departures. I've just texted my location at Arrivals to the driver and have been picked up with no problems.
GE.Thanks GE. I will try this on my next visit.
Member #4387
05-17-16, 18:35
24 pussies in 6 days and all this is without Viagra or any other supplement, are you fucking serious. I am 37 and I cannot fuck more than 2 pussies per day max and that also I need rest after every 2 days, I don't feel like even looking at a lady with me on the 3rd day I just want to be alone and relaxing.
Seriously man what do you eat or which medicine and do hop on to DXB for your next stay loads of Philles waiting there also for you.
Cheers,
AlexI can last a 3/4 days without any assistance but then I start to loose power so some supplement is needed. I am a sworn Kamagra gel fantast but have on occation tried a V or whatever. As long as the pussy is new and not the same (I easily run tired from same pussy no matter how hot the girl is) its motivation enough to me. I don't say it will stay this forever but so far so good. But I travel in and out quite frequent to Makati and not everytime I have a long line of girls lined up. Then I do the babywatch program as I have a daughter as well in Makati. I keep those two worlds (monger- and daddyworld) mostly far apart. I have extreme high libido (allways did have), is in good shape and have extreme staminas. In 4 to 10 days, which is how long I can handle phils as a whole, I handle everything from 15 to 30/40 girls. Depends on my mood realy.
I allready have been phillyfucking in DXB but mostly I have aviationconnected girls from other origin countries I put on top priority handling myself outside phils boarders (DXB incl). Phil is only cover, though the biggest, one portion of my mongering if I view my efforts in one year.
I dont cum with all girls ofcourse. Play is also nice. Can maybe climax today 5/6 times a day(different pussy)against 7/8 when i was 20/30yo. We are all different i guess. Its all good fun..
CallSign Papa
05-17-16, 20:22
Can maybe climax today 5/6 times a day(different pussy)against 7/8 when i was 20/30yo. We are all different i guess. Its all good fun..Just reading that makes me feel tired.
I'm a 2, maybe 3 a day guy, but I can probably only handle that for 3/4 days and then I need a pussy free day to recharge.
Wanted 2000 plus 5000 in shopping. Another one wanted I phone 6 . Some cam with their whole family looking. Some wanted their parents blessing to stay with me. Managed to say no, no, no. Kept slogging through. Some looked like bargirls. Went to Manila bay cafe just to see. Quite crowded with some doable ones. Asking price is 3000 to 5000 LT. I was not interested in taking bar girl anyway.
Managed to bed one from dating site. Pic below. Pussy not tight as she had one baby. Otherwise ok. Came all the way from suburb she says.
Ouch. Those are crazy amounts in my world. But then again I avoid MNL mostly. What do you consider a reasonable compensation level in Manila? My rule of thumb in other PH locations is that a blue note a day keeps troubles away, but that often becomes 1. 5 K, depending on other "needs" and I have more repeat requests than I can handle.
Thanks GE. I will try this on my next visit.Simply providing them the post number has been sufficient for me in the arrival area.
Chris Long
05-18-16, 04:25
I can last a 3/4 days without any assistance but then I start to loose power so some supplement is needed. I am a sworn Kamagra gel fantast but have on occation tried a V or whatever. As long as the pussy is new and not the same (I easily run tired from same pussy no matter how hot the girl is) its motivation enough to me. I don't say it will stay this forever but so far so good. But I travel in and out quite frequent to Makati and not everytime I have a long line of girls lined up. Then I do the babywatch program as I have a daughter as well in Makati. I keep those two worlds (monger- and daddyworld) mostly far apart. I have extreme high libido (allways did have), is in good shape and have extreme staminas. In 4 to 10 days, which is how long I can handle phils as a whole, I handle everything from 15 to 30/40 girls. Depends on my mood realy.
I allready have been phillyfucking in DXB but mostly I have aviationconnected girls from other origin countries I put on top priority handling myself outside phils boarders (DXB incl). Phil is only cover, though the biggest, one portion of my mongering if I view my efforts in one year.
I dont cum with all girls ofcourse. Play is also nice. Can maybe climax today 5/6 times a day(different pussy)against 7/8 when i was 20/30yo. We are all different i guess. Its all good fun..40 girls in 10 days and 24 girls in 6 days. Four girls a day. What a couple of light weights (LOL). Seriously though when I started in this life style I was sleeping with anywhere from five to nine girls a day, those that know me can attest to that. My personal best is eleven girls in one day. I thought everyone was sleeping with five, six, seven, or more girls a day, I was shocked and surprised when my fellow travelers would tell me they would only sleep with one or maybe two girls a day at most and some days not any at all. I thought to myself what's the point of even traveling. I know what you mean about a new girl, even when my regular girls are super hot I get board of fucking them and have to have something new. Anyway I will be in Manila this Friday and in Asia until the end of August if anyone want to chase women together in Asia this summer.
Chris
Ouch. Those are crazy amounts in my world. But then again I avoid MNL mostly. What do you consider a reasonable compensation level in Manila? My rule of thumb in other PH locations is that a blue note a day keeps troubles away, but that often becomes 1. 5 K, depending on other "needs" and I have more repeat requests than I can handle.I go by satisfaction factors. Initially negotiated factor goes out of the window if the girl really rocks your world and becomes your GFE. I am always looking for next door type but just to make sure always fix the price before to avoid misunderstandings. This way if the girl is too demanding I drop her like a hot potato. Once I dropped her no amount of her lowering her expectations will bring me back to her. Once a bad apple always a bad apple.
Blanquiceleste
05-18-16, 05:35
Seriously though when I started in this life style I was sleeping with anywhere from five to nine girls a day,
SNIP
Anyway I will be in Manila this Friday and in Asia until the end of August if anyone want to chase women together in Asia this summer.
That is over 90 days. At the rate of 9 girls a day, you would be doing 800+ chicks. The wells are going to run dry. Hyuk! Maybe this could be an opportunity to hit a new milestone - 1000 chicks!
Initially negotiated factor goes out of the window if the girl really rocks your world and becomes your GFE. I am always looking for next door typeOK, I see we are tapping pretty much the same market, but with bit different MOs. I usually do not negotiate amounts beforehand, and never had any probs. I have usually wetted them pretty well in chat before meeting and bad apples are very uncommon. I have taken some semi-homely girls with good jobs and they would surely be offended if I paid them in cash, they just want my pizza (and hot dog, of course). These can be clingy though.
Member #4387
05-18-16, 05:52
40 girls in 10 days and 24 girls in 6 days. Four girls a day. What a couple of light weights (LOL). Seriously though when I started in this life style I was sleeping with anywhere from five to nine girls a day, those that know me can attest to that. My personal best is eleven girls in one day. I thought everyone was sleeping with five, six, seven, or more girls a day, I was shocked and surprised when my fellow travelers would tell me they would only sleep with one or maybe two girls a day at most and some days not any at all. I thought to myself what's the point of even traveling. I know what you mean about a new girl, even when my regular girls are super hot I get board of fucking them and have to have something new. Anyway I will be in Manila this Friday and in Asia until the end of August if anyone want to chase women together in Asia this summer.
ChrisSo I guess my 4 girls a day(on average)is what you concider a slow day right, hehe? I operate in a fashion that the shorter stay the more efficient I am so I can easily have 6 girls a day on a 4 days stay or 4 girls a day a 6 days stay. My breaking record so far, earlier last year was 9 sessions (incl 2 duettes) so technicaly 11 girls(thats a busy day in my book)..
Starting to come into phils 4+ years ago, I got the taste of the girls here, prepped up my game and tuned into my inner mongering genetics (from my father I believe). Jump started with a 1 to 2 girls a day soon reaching on average 3 girls a day (still convenient and relaxing numbers). After proffessionalizing my mongerbiz even more (incl cracking the code of "how to get them pinays my place on time") I could even increase the numbers. Last two years this going on clockworkterms and I've found MY niche of girls I enjoy play with (and they with me I believe). The numbers a day started to come out of control and I was left with far to little me time.
I am in a way a tad selfish / solitude person who need some me time as well (recoupe, evidenceremovals, rinse and drink), so I easily get tired from constant traffic in and out of my room and all the new faces (pussies and especially new ones I never run tired from though). Consistingly interacting with NEW girls takes it tolls on me. Dont get me wrong; I am a social guy though but have my portion of certified good old friends from back home(the real world).
At one stage last year when I did a good 30+ something girls in a 5 days stay(several duettes counted as 1), I thought and felt I've reached the maximum. I came to the conclusion my fake FB and interactions with the girls there were running almost to well (I have no reason to complaine ofcourse). I had to ask myself if I was becomming to good at this and I've found for the first time in my life, it even hurts writing this, enough is enough. It was like an assembly line of girls waiting to meet and I became to greedy.
I allways been extreme when I put my mind into something. Still I had to lower the number of girls during a day. Let all the temptation of willing objects in my fake FB rest and just acknowledge I can not fuck them all at once anyway. So these days I have a nice rythm of fine tuned girlieplay and it still do cover my need for new pukie but also cover my need for ME time. 3 to 5 girls a day is a perfect numbers and in a 3 one day and 5 next day rotation (or 4 to 6 in rotation on short stays. In my book 4 to 6 days is short stay and 7 to 10 days is long stay.
I am not shy to say I have found my way to handle a certain tire of girls quite well. I wasnt realy new to mongering when I first sat foot in phils. I come from years and years of training, massive training in south america. In my late 20 ies I remember back to the good old Caracas days and what we called "Sunday Catholicmass" held at my or my friends penthouse (gangbang with up to 15 Venezuelean girls). Very little religious aspect so to speak. But we were crazy back then. Now when i am 43yo i have slowed that part down. Its all about having fun.
40 girls in 10 days and 24 girls in 6 days. Four girls a day. What a couple of light weights (LOL). Seriously though when I started in this life style I was sleeping with anywhere from five to nine girls a day, those that know me can attest to that. My personal best is eleven girls in one day. I thought everyone was sleeping with five, six, seven, or more girls a day, I was shocked and surprised when my fellow travelers would tell me they would only sleep with one or maybe two girls a day at most and some days not any at all. I thought to myself what's the point of even traveling. I know what you mean about a new girl, even when my regular girls are super hot I get board of fucking them and have to have something new. Anyway I will be in Manila this Friday and in Asia until the end of August if anyone want to chase women together in Asia this summer.
ChrisAfter reading these posts of anywhere between 4 girls per day and as many as ll girls in one day, I can see this being possible if a guy is chewing on ED meds constantly during the day. It's one thing to be able to get hard and penetrate a line-up of girls everyday, but to be able to come every-time is another matter. I've been in Asia 10 days now and am down to only being able to come twice a day but I'm a senior citizen so I guess it's possible for younger guys to finish constantly. I don't like taking girls and not being able to finish with them.
40 girls in 10 days and 24 girls in 6 days. Four girls a day. What a couple of light weights (LOL). Seriously though when I started in this life style I was sleeping with anywhere from five to nine girls a day, those that know me can attest to that. My personal best is eleven girls in one day. I thought everyone was sleeping with five, six, seven, or more girls a day, I was shocked and surprised when my fellow travelers would tell me they would only sleep with one or maybe two girls a day at most and some days not any at all. I thought to myself what's the point of even traveling. I know what you mean about a new girl, even when my regular girls are super hot I get board of fucking them and have to have something new. Anyway I will be in Manila this Friday and in Asia until the end of August if anyone want to chase women together in Asia this summer.
ChrisI think to chase women with you is like running the 100 MX9 hurdles as you will fuck women and then leave in every 45 minutes provided you sleep for 6-8 hrs and then 4-6 hrs to change wash bathe eat and stuff. I don't think anyone on this forum must have fucked so many women provided the average punter on this forum is 50+.
Cheers: Don't stop fucking man and just start posting pic of the ladies you fuck so that every day there are 9-12 new ladies in your pg gallery.
I still cat imagine my heard is going round and round just thinking about 9 pussies in 1 day and all this naturally or with a packet of Viagra everyday or some other supplement.
PegInThePoke
05-18-16, 16:42
I'm headed to Manila in a week.
I've been in the Philippines multiple times, and just starting to get the hang of things. I signed up with Pina Love, and have a few different girls lined up already to fuck.
I made it clear I just want sex. Some asked for money, and others seem to just want to be with a foreigner. Anybody ever hit up Pina Love? I will meet all in public, and ask for I. D. S before back to the hotel room.
Just thought I'd see if anyone else is using this site.
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05-19-16, 08:25
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I'm headed to Manila in a week.
I've been in the Philippines multiple times, and just starting to get the hang of things. I signed up with Pina Love, and have a few different girls lined up already to fuck.
I made it clear I just want sex. Some asked for money, and others seem to just want to be with a foreigner. Anybody ever hit up Pina Love? I will meet all in public, and ask for I. D. S before back to the hotel room.
Just thought I'd see if anyone else is using this site.You didn't do much searching. Pinalove is well-worn on this site.
You will also discover that the different girls on pinalove you have lined up as certainties either change their minds nearer your arrival or turn out to not be as sure-fire as you hoped for.
Good luck anyway.
Hi guys,
Have been following Philippines thread for quite some time but did not get much. I can see some Seniors like Donaldsucks are enjoying quite well but there is not channel to help the juniors like us. It's a forum to help people and we could be better in our areas bur definitely, need help from seniors in respective areas. Please look at New Delhi, India forum and this is how the site like ISG should run I believe. I am surprised to see that most senior members even do not have their PMs activated. I wish, the experienced and senior ones would be kind enough to help the new ones and juniors and therefore, this is where the sight could be of relevance. A senior replied to me but always asked for a new question as though he is a pimp and trying to make business. You guys might be senior in your area but we know our area better and do promise to give a good experience if you are there. So, why not you come ahead and help us with information that you have. I think, this is the basic purpose of ISG and I find little being served. Sorry Guys, not trying to be arrogant bu humbly requesting for your cooperation. I have gems and jewels in New Delhi but need help in Manila since I am returning in Three days. Be kind fellow Mongers!
You didn't do much searching. Pinalove is well-worn on this site.
You will also discover that the different girls on pinalove you have lined up as certainties either change their minds nearer your arrival or turn out to not be as sure-fire as you hoped for.
Good luck anyway.
Is this the same Delhi forum where people post fake reports in order to bid up their post count and try to get contacts via PM? I would counter and say we definitely don't want to be like the Delhi forum. If you want to know how DS does it, if you know his old handle, he's actually described at length how he does it. I think there is some misunderstanding here, perhaps that all of this just falls out of the sky. There is preparation and also repeat visits. If one thinks you get the same results from one trip a year that wasn't well planned or on your first visit, think again. So if you're interested in the process, RTFF and its all there. If you want contacts, why the hell would I risk one for someone I don't know and also not a known person on this forum? Come on guys, use some common sense.
Hi guys,
Have been following Philippines thread for quite some time but did not get much. I can see some Seniors like Donaldsucks are enjoying quite well but there is not channel to help the juniors like us. It's a forum to help people and we could be better in our areas bur definitely, need help from seniors in respective areas. Please look at New Delhi, India forum and this is how the site like ISG should run I believe. I am surprised to see that most senior members even do not have their PMs activated. I wish, the experienced and senior ones would be kind enough to help the new ones and juniors and therefore, this is where the sight could be of relevance. A senior replied to me but always asked for a new question as though he is a pimp and trying to make business. You guys might be senior in your area but we know our area better and do promise to give a good experience if you are there. So, why not you come ahead and help us with information that you have. I think, this is the basic purpose of ISG and I find little being served. Sorry Guys, not trying to be arrogant bu humbly requesting for your cooperation. I have gems and jewels in New Delhi but need help in Manila since I am returning in Three days. Be kind fellow Mongers!
Hi guys,
I am surprised to see that most senior members even do not have their PMs activated.I think you will find you can not PM the senior members because you do not have PM function because you have not paid your membership fees to become a senior member.
Have been following Philippines thread for quite some time but did not get much. What does this even mean?
but there is not channel to help the juniors like us. need help from seniors in respective areas. I wish, the experienced and senior ones would be kind enough to help the new ones and juniors and therefore, this is where the sight could be of relevance. So, why not you come ahead and help us with information that you have. I think, this is the basic purpose of ISG and I find little being served. Sorry Guys, not trying to be arrogant bu humbly requesting for your cooperation. I am convinced you have not explored the Philippines threads. Had you, you would have found this: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3802-Trigger-Warning-Newbie-Safe-Space.-A-gentle-friendly-and-non-judgmental-safe-area.
It is exactly the helping juniors "channel" you said doesn't exist.
Do less ranting and more reading.
WestCoast1
05-20-16, 05:50
Hi guys,
Please look at New Delhi, India forum and this is how the site like ISG should run I believe.Oh my gawwwwwwwwd!
'Nuff said from me.
Thanks for the service, I am OK with the PM function, have paid membership for an year.
I think you will find you can not PM the senior members because you do not have PM function because you have not paid your membership fees to become a senior member.
Wicked Roger
05-20-16, 06:48
Oh my gawwwwwwwwd!
'Nuff said from me.This is the board with huge banners at the op warning all member to stop asking for contact information etc It generally starts with "hey bro' and on the UAE board many of these now are polluting the board with questions that can be found with a RTFF and possibly a PM question to follow up. Unfortunately when some seniors myself included point this out we are called racist as we note the poster generally posts on the India board. We also call them 'managers'.
Sign of the time IMHO as more descent on the Philippines, the more FRs we get like this.
I've been in Manila a week now and in and out of LA Cafe everyday. Seems at times too many girls in the place with a wide range of pricing as I have been quoted anywhere from 1,000 to 3,000 Pesos for ST with me laughing at the girl that quoted 3,000 Pesos. It's my understanding from the girls that after a few hours the girls may be required to buy a drink to be able to stay when it's busy. I bought two girls a drink and when returned three hours later they were still nursing their drinks. Also I understand they have dormitory rooms upstairs which cost the girls 100 Pesos a day to stay there and there is a waiting list to get a bed.
So with the new president poised to be taking office soon he has pledged to shut everything down at midnight. I understand that's what he did in Davao and if he really does plan to do this across the country including Angeles City, etc. The Philippines as a mongering destination is going to take a big hit. I wonder about all the Hotel's and Casinos as well. Maybe there's going to be some type of exceptions, etc. For certain types of establishments or perhaps payoffs to run a business outside of the new hours. It will be interesting to see what happens and doesn't sound like it will be good for everybody.
Member #4387
05-20-16, 12:21
Oh my gawwwwwwwwd!
'Nuff said from me.Traveltop hasnt RTFF at all. Maybe someone is interested in India. I am not. This is his PM to me:
"Help.
I expect some help from you sir, you are a Hero for Phillipines and I hope you would help. I can help you for New Delhi. ".
DS.
Blanquiceleste
05-20-16, 13:21
Be kind fellow Mongers!Do not feed the troll. One more on my ignore list.
WestCoast1
05-20-16, 13:46
Hi guys,
It's a forum to help people and we could be better in our areas bur definitely, need help from seniors in respective areas. No, not quite. That would only be one of the functions of the board.
Please look at New Delhi, India forum and this is how the site like ISG should run I believe.The India boards are terrible. The board administrator has placed these warnings / banners across the top of the India pages:
NO EMAIL ADDRESSES! / NO REQUESTS TO BE CONTACTED! / NO DESPERATE PLEAS FOR HELP! / NO CODED NAMES!
The India boards are exactly how the site should NOT be run. Hence: Oh My Gawwwwwwd!
I am surprised to see that most senior members even do not have their PMs activated. Nonsense. RK, GE, DS, Sammon, Pute Nut, Blanq, ME and myself all have PM (sorry gents for turning on the troll's radar). I would be glad to help you in PM, but be advised: Your initial questions might be met with my own questions. Newbs usually ask general questions that are hard to answer, such as: "What is a good hotel in Makati?" To which I must ask: Are you looking for a particular price range? Do you want to be close to the action? And so on.
Also, while I'm glad to help you with hotels, restaurants, taxi's, girlie areas, etcetera, I will not be giving you girl's contact information. That last part is something shared only with members that I've met.
I wish, the experienced and senior ones would be kind enough to help the new ones and juniors and therefore, this is where the sight could be of relevance. I would argue that the site is indeed relevant to those who use it regularly. There is a newb section for questions just as Hutsori gave you.
Naked Gunz
05-20-16, 14:04
Hi guys, It's a forum to help people and we could be better in our areas bur definitely, need help from seniors in respective areas. Please look at New Delhi, India forum and this is how the site like ISG should run I believe. I think, this is the basic purpose of ISG and I find little being served. Sorry Guys, not trying to be arrogant bu humbly requesting for your cooperation. I have gems and jewels in New Delhi but need help in Manila since I am returning in Three days. I can help you with some Manila info but I have not been since 2013. You need to help me though about India. PM me. It also helps to be able to read between the lines. Sometimes when members are bragging about the conquest in the post, they drop tiny bits of extremely valuable info. A name, a price, location, etc. You have to know what to look for, and what you want to know to find the buried treasure. Understand? The only thing I gather from India forum is hundreds of pics of women that you get from a SP. You all are asking about quality of service about them from each other-that's basically it.
CallSign Papa
05-20-16, 14:39
You got to love the lengths they'll go through to avoid putting in any actual work.
What's disappointing is that they all use the same tired, invalid arguments.
new president poised to be taking office soon he has pledged to shut everything down at midnight. Just start earlier. I usually have my second or third bird by midnight and am snoring away until morning wood comes knocking.
PegInThePoke
05-20-16, 15:32
You didn't do much searching. Pinalove is well-worn on this site.
You will also discover that the different girls on pinalove you have lined up as certainties either change their minds nearer your arrival or turn out to not be as sure-fire as you hoped for.
Good luck anyway.Honestly, you are right, I didn't do much searching for it. My bad. I did after you mentioned, and thank you for that.
I've a got bunch lined up (hedging my bets), and yeah, I am sure my faves will pull out. Still going to give it a shot. I'll update here on success and failure.
But seriously, sorry about not checking, I should have. And thanks for the heads up.
Fare thee well on your exploits!
Fast Eddie 48
05-21-16, 01:37
I've been in Manila a week now and in and out of LA Cafe everyday. Seems at times too many girls in the place with a wide range of pricing as I have been quoted anywhere from 1,000 to 3,000 Pesos for ST with me laughing at the girl that quoted 3,000 Pesos. It's my understanding from the girls that after a few hours the girls may be required to buy a drink to be able to stay when it's busy. I bought two girls a drink and when returned three hours later they were still nursing their drinks. Also I understand they have dormitory rooms upstairs which cost the girls 100 Pesos a day to stay there and there is a waiting list to get a bed.
So with the new president poised to be taking office soon he has pledged to shut everything down at midnight. I understand that's what he did in Davao and if he really does plan to do this across the country including Angeles City, etc. The Philippines as a mongering destination is going to take a big hit. I wonder about all the Hotel's and Casinos as well. Maybe there's going to be some type of exceptions, etc. For certain types of establishments or perhaps payoffs to run a business outside of the new hours. It will be interesting to see what happens and doesn't sound like it will be good for everybody.To Surfer 500.
I don't see any problem to that I don't stay out too late in Manila anyway is just too danger there are plenty girl at LA at 9 pm, no don't think the casino will closed at midnight no way don't be Nave there will be many small black market bar will be open after midnight.
Fast Eddie 48.
Never heard or read that the new Prez will shut every place down at midnight. Only thing he has said was to cut off alcohol sales at 1:00 am like he has done in Davao City as mayor. Possibly make all restaurants non smoking too, same as he has done in Davao City. Keep in mind he is a chain smoker too.
He has already warned there will be heavy consequences for anymore bullet scams at the airports. He seems to be tourist and business friendly. He has ordered all Government workers who work with the public to smile and be friendly to the public.
He has bragged about having Viagra enhanced sex sessions with working girls in the past. So I doubt he will try to close pnp unless certain places have an unsavory operation.
no don't think the casino will closed at midnight no way don't be Nave there will be many small black market bar will be open after midnight.
Correct. It's been said certain businesses such as those involved in tourism will be exempt.
I dislike going out earlier than 10 pm because of the traffic, and I'm usually at live music bars until 1 am or so, then off to the nightclubs. I can't see all nightclubs being exempt, and that will suck. Those in the upper tier hotels likely have the best shot of avoiding the early closing hour.
Never heard or read that the new Prez will shut every place down at midnight. Only thing he has said was to cut off alcohol sales at 1:00 am like he has done in Davao City as mayor. Possibly make all restaurants non smoking too, same as he has done in Davao City. Keep in mind he is a chain smoker too.
He has already warned there will be heavy consequences for anymore bullet scams at the airports. He seems to be tourist and business friendly. He has ordered all Government workers who work with the public to smile and be friendly to the public.
He has bragged about having Viagra enhanced sex sessions with working girls in the past. So I doubt he will try to close pnp unless certain places have an unsavory operation.I guess will find out this summer when he takes office but if it is true that he's going to shut things down at midnight it will have an effect on the business owners, the late night crowd, and the girls.
Blanquiceleste
05-21-16, 04:11
Never heard or read that the new Prez will shut every place down at midnight. Only thing he has said was to cut off alcohol sales at 1:00 am like he has done in Davao City as mayor. Possibly make all restaurants non smoking too, same as he has done in Davao City. Keep in mind he is a chain smoker too.
He has already warned there will be heavy consequences for anymore bullet scams at the airports. He seems to be tourist and business friendly. He has ordered all Government workers who work with the public to smile and be friendly to the public.
He has bragged about having Viagra enhanced sex sessions with working girls in the past. So I doubt he will try to close pnp unless certain places have an unsavory operation.Do as I say, don't do as I do.
It has been repeated ad nauseam on these boards, there is no logic to anything that happens in the Philippines. I will assume nothing and approach the place as a new destination on my next visit. I don't fancy being apprehended for "breaking the law" under the new regime.
IllusionHeart
05-21-16, 14:45
April 29: (Day 1: Friday)
A last minute runway change adding to approx. 30 minutes of delay, I finally landed at 6. 30 pm in Manila from Singapore. I was happy to be on ground, always am under fear and cranky while taking off or landing into NAIA. A good hour and half later of waiting in the queue I was able to get into the Tourist Taxi at the airport who charged me flat 540 peso to Century Park, Malate where I was going to stay for the next 4 nights. My original plan was to stay for 4 nights in Manila, 6 nights at Lewis Grand in AC and 2 nights I had kept open thinking I might come back to manila as I was booked to exit from here to Singapore. I could hear the private taxi guys charge 1400 to 1600 peso for trip to Makati hence never bothered to engage them. The ride to Hotel wasn't easy either as the highway outside the terminal onwards was heavily jammed. I forgot to pick a Sim at airport and now was sitting helpless at the mercy of the cab driver who seemed to take more interest in nature and frequency of my visits. After good 3 hours of having landed I finally made it to the hotel. First thought was to just go to sleep but the excitement somehow had my adrenaline pumped up and within an hour I was showered fresh ready to hit the night scene.
100 peso and 45 minutes later I was on P Burgos street. It was alive and kicking. Festivities seem to be gathering momentum. I hit Kojax, Hotspot and later Plan be. Liked a girl at Plan be and barfined her. As we had both had 2 drinks each I paid 2900 peso BF and made a deal with the girl for 4000 peso if she stayed till afternoon. M was a 22 year old, 5'3', good looking with be sized breasts and a cute butt. She was a firecracker in bed and ticked all my boxes. Only gripe was that her belly was slightly messed up by child birth. Nonetheless after a good night session and servicing of the morning wood I let her go at 11 am. I was satiated.
Overall experience: 8/10 (0.5 less for stretch marked tummy. Fussy but thats me)
April 30: (Day 2: Saturday)
A heavy breakfast / Mid daymeal comprising of Oettinger Schwarz beer and Sausages at Munchen had my body engine revved up. I got some currency exchanged at Sheeha on Mabini Street. Always get a good rate here and never bothered to get into the more crowded Edzen at the end of the same building.
I walked to MBC and settled down. I could only see dregs all around. Maybe 2 to 4 pm is not the best of time I could guess. I got a message from the girl I had met on FB that she had reached the hotel and was waiting for me. I sprinted back and met her downstairs in the lobby. Back in the room, usual pleasantries later I handed over the Hersheys kisses chocolate and a perfume. She is studying nursing final quarter and had travelled from Quezon city to stay with me for a night. Basis my last conversation in morning I did not expect her to come over and hence was hunting for option in MBC. It had taken her good 2. 5 hours to reach. Got her some room service meal and had her showered and comfortable on bed.
E was a petite girl about 20 year old and 5'0' in height. Her body was extremely athletic and had ample sized breasts and a nice shapely butt. She was a good kisser and had me up and running in minutes. A good BJ and tight firm body is all I wanted. She was open to all the positions I wanted. I finished and lay exhausted while she cleaned me up and went to take a shower. She came back to bed and hugged me tight. The strong ac really chills the girls down and have seen some of them really struggle to stay in the room for extended durations unless drunk.
A small nap later I was raring to go at it again and so was she. However she was refusing to let go of the sheets. I worked my way with her and got her wet enough to let the sheets go and hold on to me tightly. The second round was an amazing one and she was more responsive. Her agile body had me move and toss her around to change positions without a hitch. I eventually finished exhausted and sweating. The smoking seems to be killing my stamina more and more each passing day. 2 pops later I had a change of heart and around 6 pm, tucking 3000 peso in her purse and 500 peso for taxi money I made a silly excuse and let her go. She was good but I had a different girl in my mind for the night.
Overall experience: 8.5/10
I reached kojax at approx. 9 pm. There were hardly 4 girls on stage and more seem to be walking in. Place is Korean dominated but all are welcome. Good collection of slim girls across bars. The girl I have been eyeing walked onto the stage. I had eye contact with her and got her down for a drink. Didn't want her to get snapped up. The only cost is a lady drink but then I have the right of refusal. She was slim and good looking gal. Somehow she didn't warm up to me and seemed to have a preference for the Korean gentleman in the room. I let her go. Didn't want a starfish after the splendid day I had. I waited for some time while other girls walked up on stage. Noticed another gal and had her called beside me. Miss J, 21 year was a short girl, 4'11', blonde hair and some body art. She was extremely lively and smiling. While I sat with her nursing our drinks I also explored the floor for other options but none found. J was getting naughty every passing minute and I was enjoying it. I barfined her. Approx 2900 peso excluding the drinks. Deal with her was 3000 peso till morning and a good tip.
Back in the room and a meal later we were working each other very well. J seemed to know all the tricks and had me pounding her in minutes. Her tongue was indeed magical and it ensured horniness wherever it touched beginning with my lips to my cock. It was a complete PSE session. Her boobs were slightly small and saggy but didn't put any dampener on my spirits. Her arse was the best part of her body after her cute smile. I tried her in miss, WOT and later finished in doggy. After a good sleep and I woke up to her coiled and sleeping with her back to me. I lifted the sheets and could see her curved arse. Not able to control myself I positioned myself besides her and warmed her up. She was slightly sleepy but turned her head around to kiss me. Her hand also found its way to my cock and we were on. It was slight massaging of my hand and we had her wet enough to carry on. It just surprises me how easily and wet pinays can get sometimes. I guided my way inside her and we spooned for few minutes. She then wanted me to change to missionary and I obliged her. Few warm smooches and pumps ensured I finish fast. It was a satiating session.
Overall experience: 8/10
Do as I say, don't do as I do.
It has been repeated ad nauseam on these boards, there is no logic to anything that happens in the Philippines. I will assume nothing and approach the place as a new destination on my next visit. I don't fancy being apprehended for "breaking the law" under the new regime.I agree! Maybe I am pessimistic, but how long will it be until someone is mugged by a cop? He can say you were stealing / selling drugs / whatever and threaten to kill you on the spot unless you pay him phpXX, XXX. And if he kills you, he gets a bonus! It is a bad, bad idea to make a cop Judge, Jury and Executioner. Especially in the Philippines.
The realist in me believes that once Duterte has eliminated all the crime gangs, his death squads will have a monopoly on crime.
IllusionHeart
05-21-16, 14:51
May 1: (Day 3: Sunday)
I was famished. We got fresh and took a cab to Robinson. A good bowl of miso ramen for me at Ajisen and some Pork adobo and rice for her. Yet to meet a pinay who actually enjoys non philipino food for a change. Let her go with 3000 peso and 500 tip. She had been really good.
Back to MBC and the same dregs all around. Few young ones but seemed disconnected. They only lit up when a Japanese / Korean customer walked in. A good hour and half later I gave up and returned to rest at the Hotel. I planned to go to Greenbelt 3 in the evening and check out the scene. My visit in earlier trip to Havana had been sad. I reached G3 around 8 pm. Hung around Havana and Starbucks and puffed my way looking for some sport. All I could see were regular crowd and few odd dregs. Didn't interest me as much. I decided to go to Burgos Street.
I went to Plan be and it was surprisingly empty. Few girls on stage. Looked like most of the girls day off had to be Sunday. It was 9. 30 pm and girls are on stage at this time. Not wasting much time and a beer later I went to Hotspot. The crowd was thin here as well and approx. 6 to 8 gals on stage. Few sips of cold beer later called a girl for drink. L was 20 year old, 5'0' in height with be sized breast. Single mom but her tummy seem to be in shape and I liked that. Shy girl hence talked only when asked. Had few drinks with her and mamasan as well. Mamasan assured me that she was good in bed. I asked L till what time will she stay to which she replied 6 am. I was not ok and told mamasan. The mamasan then spoke to her and L agreed to stay till 10. I had to make arrangement for the morning wood.
A good room service meal later we went into action on bed. L was a good kisser. Gave me a good BJ. She liked WOT and I obliged her for a few minutes. She came soon and I could feel her wetness on me. I got her into missionary and then changed to doggy and I finished in few minutes. L was as good as mamasan had promised. We cleaned up and watched TV for some time sipping our beers. She tried to explain the plot of the show to me but I was too tired to listen and dozed off. I woke up to the sound of TV being on. I looked at her and L was all shaking watching the TV. I asked her if she was ok to which she replied that she in unable to sleep in the chilly room. I had kept the room at a modest 22 from earlier experiences and would not have been able to sleep with any further warming up of the room. I took a call and decided to let her go. I paid her 3000 peso and 100 tip and she was on way.
Overall experience: 7/10 (Purely for 1 pop)
May 2: (Day 4: Monday)
I had been conversing and contemplating on meeting with a Badoo girl since Saturday. She was staying in Antipolo and needed me to send her 500 peso for transport. Her responses were not prompt and it was taking time for her to respond. Besides she was not ready to send me some latest selfies of her. Smelling a rat I stopped responding to her. I had scheduled her to meet me on Monday afternoon. With the afternoon free I went to Robinsons. Strolled around looking for potential but didn't find anything. Grabbed meal at Burger King and was back at MBC. Another 2 hours of eye broccoli and back to Hotel empty handed.
MBC in the afternoon was dead for me. I remember taking girl most of the times but in this trip was a washout especially the 1 to 4 pm slot. Didn't want to waste time on social apps when on ground and didn't take the effort to pipeline much for this trip.
I went to Kojax around 8 pm. Too early I guess. Stayed for an hour but it was slow and good girls were missing. Peeked into Hotspot and same situation. My earlier girls were also on day off. I ventured into Plan be with the same thought in my mind. However there were some girls here and I could see two which could be barfined. Miss J was also on stage and acknowledged me. I got one girl called over. M was a slightly tall, 5'4" and slim girl. She had a good smile and a slender body. I also called over J for a drink. Few chats later I could see the chemistry building with M. I asked her if she wanted to go with me to which she agreed. Besides she stays in malate so returning home in afternoon was no problem for her.
M had braces so I was slightly easy on the kissing front. Similarly scared when she was giving me a wet and sloppy BJ. Her long body had me craving and kissing her all over. She was responding well. We went on for few minutes in different positions and I finished in missionary with her looking into my eyes. It was great and I somehow didn't seem to loose erection. She was also slightly surprised and continued to kiss me and fondle my cock. I started again in missionary and ended in doggy. It has been quite some time for me to have done 2 pops in successions. Her body had done the magic it seems. I was now feeling tired and sleepy while she wanted to have a beer. So we drank SML and chatted for few minutes. She was very eager to know more about me and got me added on fb. I also wanted to keep in touch with this gal as I do with ones who are really good. She hugged me and we went to sleep.
May 3: (Day 5: Tuesday)
I woke up with daylight leaking in through the curtains. I could see her snugged up to me. I had to kiss her and wake her. My hands running on her body were good enough to make her smile and start kissing me. We got warmed up and I we went for it again. I lifted her leg on my back and entered her from the front and continued thrusting her. She got wet and wanted me to come on top. I obliged and finished in few minutes. We cleaned up. I wanted to take her to lunch but time had run out. I was to check out and leave for AC by 12 pm. I handed her 4000 peso and 200 tip.
Overall experience: 8.5/10 (0.5 less for braces)
To be continued in AC thread
Blanquiceleste
05-22-16, 00:57
To be continued in AC threadWe really got to be aligned better mate. Why the fuck did we meet only in AC if you were also in Manila on same dates. But I am so glad we did. AC was fun.
Do as I say, don't do as I do.
It has been repeated ad nauseam on these boards, there is no logic to anything that happens in the Philippines.Upon leaving Manila yesterday I arrived at the Manila airport and got my boarding pass on a Philippine Airline flight out of the country. I waited at the assigned gate and about ten minutes before boarding time I didn't notice a lot of people and found out my gate had been changed. I then realized that there was not a single monitor for I think at least 18 departure gates within the International terminal. The only thing I noticed was that there would be placards at the counters for the flights leaving the gates and constant announcements over the loudspeakers. I finally asked a Philippine airline representative about this and they said a lot of passengers where complaining about this but for some reason the "government" would not allow monitors in the Terminal. It was frustrating not to know when a gate change had been made and that my flight had been delayed as well.
Doesn't make sense at all.
WestCoast1
05-22-16, 17:42
Doesn't make sense at all. When in phils, what *does* make sense? As many of have described, there is a large difference of view on many things between east and western cultures. Nowhere more pointedly so than in phils. At least once per day while in-country I say to myself: "Only here"!
The only thing I noticed was that there would be placards at the counters for the flights leaving the gates and constant announcements over the loudspeakers. The placards are probably there because it's an A grade airport that can charge the full PHP 750 terminal fee for international departures. Many smaller airports do not have placards, just a crappy PA system and terrible acoustics. On a more positive note many airports now have a breastfeeding station and kids' playground.
The placards are probably there because it's an A grade airport that can charge the full PHP 750 terminal fee for international departures. Many smaller airports do not have placards, just a crappy PA system and terrible acoustics. On a more positive note many airports now have a breastfeeding station and kids' playground.Philippines departure tax is lower than most other countries. Now Mnl departure tax is built into most ticket prices now. Other countries have the tax priced in the ticket along with other hidden taxes. USA has an arrival tax of $13.40 built into the tickets.
The plausible answer for lack of monitors for gates is that some "government person" has pocketed the monitor funds and said "not allowed" anymore.
Philippines departure tax is lower than most other countries. The PHP 750 is a combined "terminal fee" (which includes VAT and security fee). The "departure tax" (aka travel tax) is only paid by filipinos (with some exceptions such as endorsed athletes etc) AND by some resident foreigners (depending on length of stay). The departure/travel tax is PHP 1620 in economy.
Many airports around Asia levy lower terminal fees AND have working aircon and escalators. I do not know if you have travelled out of NAIA / T3 but they haven't had working AC on any of my departure dates. Also while you are there, why not take a look at the (left side looking out over check-in desks) escalator, which must have been "out of service" for well over a year now LOL.
Lastly, Cebu Mactan airport required cash payment of PHP 750 on my last departure with Cathay Pacific just a few weeks ago, so the implementation is very spotty, and clearly not yet executed even in an "A" class airport such as Cebu.
Why The Face
05-25-16, 07:23
I was only in Manila for 4 days. I was a machine with a punishing pace moving through the city. I was not on a sex hunt but just wanted to see as much as possible. I went to at least 8 malls in Manila ranging from poor areas to upper class in Makati as well as other social areas. I went to every mall in Davao as well as every social area when I was there. I posted a report in the Davao section. The Havana Cafe in Manila had maybe 5 women in the place and the women did not stand out as freelancers. I viewed very few, if any, freelancers available in any malls. I am sure if I had approached all women and pushed for dates I might have discovered some but this would have taken a lot of effort and getting laid was not my objective but I do know what I saw. With the increase in the internet everywhere I am sure most of these areas have dried up somewhat in recent years. There are street scenes and daytime casas I missed for sure as Manila is a large city with lots of traffic to get around. The Manila monger scene is great IMO. This is based on Burgos Street and The EDSA Complex alone. I could have had amazing sex for awhile if having no budget. Angeles City was a great monger scene as well, just very different. I can see why experienced mongers pass by Manila on their way to Subic or Angeles yet I found hookers to be hotter and better skilled in bed in Manila without the hardcore attitude that usually comes with increased skill. Maybe someone else can describe this better. I found 8's and 9's widely available in EDSA and Burgos Street and I found the sex to be top notch. I am sure there are other areas that are cheaper but I am very confident the service would not have been better. I could have lived off the EDSA alone for a month or more. For someone stuck in Manila on business, the scene is great IMO. Do you really just want to hang in Manila just for the sex though?
Burgos Street, EDSA Complex, and Angeles City are the same as far as the hunt. Go in and order a drink. 100 pesos or so. Don't spend more than 20 minutes in any place. Invite a girl over if you see something you like. Girl drinks are 300 pesos. If nothing clicks move on! This is more important than any other single thing you can do. These entire scenes can be hit in 2 hours or less. Take control of each situation at each place! Don't let them pressure you. If they are aggressive, tell them you just arrived and want to relax. Be sure to spend 100 pesos on a beer, soda, or fruit drink at each place. I was alternating beers with mango drinks at each place to not get too drunk. Leave behind your beer if you need to.
EDSA barfine was 1950 plus 2 k-3 k short time. If you click with a girl she will likely stay all night for nothing more. If you want TLN, ask for this upfront. Burgos Street barfines vary. I only asked about the barfine in a few places and it was 2 k - 2.9 k. Probably 2 k -3 k for the girls ST. I barfined 1 girl ST from Plan be and she stayed all night. Barfine was 2.9 k plus 3 k for the girl. This is about the limit on cost at Plan be. This place was one of the most expensive and nicest places I went to. The attitude in the place was a little hardcore, in comparison to the other places, but I found a nice, new girl. In Angeles I barfined 2 girls and both were 2. 5 k and stayed all night. 2.5 k was all in including barfine and girl in Angeles. I got the impression there was no ST rate as all girls would stay all night. The girls were sweeter in Angeles and more GFE with slightly less bed skill than Manila. In all 3 places mentioned it would have been easy to get these girls for ST, at reduced rates, before their shifts at their night time jobs. I called 2 girls, one multiple times, and it was easy conversing and they answered the phone each time. All 3 places were great mongering environments IMSO.
Angeles was better with regards to convenient infrastructure. I would strongly encourage guys 60+ to visit Angeles. Angeles is a comfortable place for older men to be with younger women, much more so than Manila. Don't fall in love with the women there though! I met women under 20, with full time jobs, who were dating 60+ year old foreigners. These women have rationalized 60+20 equals love and they actually believe it to be true whereas in most places the women and men can see the difference from their prior relationships. Extreme poverty has caused this sacrifice as they told me all of the 40 year old weren't faithful. I will just say their hearts aren't made of gold and the men in Angeles are broken and can't realize this or demand better. 60 year old men should be with mature 35-60 year old women who have high self esteem and better habits. I could go way deeper into this topic but I will leave it at this for now.
I actually gained something from the Phil boards. I went back 20 pages in The Manila thread as well as going back about 5-10 pages in other threads. I gained from the direct sex content as well as the off topic stuff. I felt a need to give back as I finally gained something from these threads unlike the Colombian boards where there is constant infighting. The Medellin brings out the worst in BM's myself included. Is there a more hostile thread than the Medellin Reports thread? I haven't seen one.
I am a capable writer with lots of respected BM friends. I have been living in Latin America for the past 11 years, averaging 3-6 months per year. I could rock the Medellin board with information as I saw horror in that city in my 700 days over the past 4 1/2 years there. I witnessed murder, paramilitary activity, and saw gang members beat up girls due to jealousy by other girls. I moved my Colombian girlfriend, and her kids, out of the house where she lived with her parents due to another girl wanting to have her killed. This was just a small part of my experiences there. I have lots of BM friends over there and none of these guys can even come close to me on overall cultural experiences. During this time my drug use went up (pot smoking) and my health declined. I have been, at times, edgy and disrespectful towards respectable BM's on ISG in the past while in return they were respectful towards me. I received responses like "shame on you for writing this crap! You are capable and this writing is beneath you" or similar. My attitude has sucked at times and again BM's were constructively critical of me. When I rose up against the grain, BM's I didn't even know came out of nowhere to defend me. I deserved worse. I appreciate your guy's support and not being jerks toward me and I would hope you guys would be nicer toward your fellow BM's going forward. Due to the current environment in the Colombian threads I have little desire to write over there. I will write a little more about the Phils as I think of a few more things to say as well.
Why The Face
QUOTE=Why The Face;1884630 60 year old men should be with mature 35-60 year old women who have high self esteem and better habits. / QUOTE.
Speak for yourself and take your "advice" elsewhere.
Cool Traveler
05-26-16, 20:44
Upon leaving Manila yesterday I arrived at the Manila airport and got my boarding pass on a Philippine Airline flight out of the country. I waited at the assigned gate and about ten minutes before boarding time I didn't notice a lot of people and found out my gate had been changed. I then realized that there was not a single monitor for I think at least 18 departure gates within the International terminal. The only thing I noticed was that there would be placards at the counters for the flights leaving the gates and constant announcements over the loudspeakers. I finally asked a Philippine airline representative about this and they said a lot of passengers where complaining about this but for some reason the "government" would not allow monitors in the Terminal. It was frustrating not to know when a gate change had been made and that my flight had been delayed as well.
Doesn't make sense at all.Wanted to laugh, but I shouldn't. This is serious. Out of every 3 flights, I have had gate change in 2. And that too without announcement. So, always keep your eyes out, and watch the people around you. If they suddenly change, you go check at the counter. If there is no one at the counter, start walking and look at other counters and ask. This is common in all the terminals. Just be aware of it.
GoodEnough
05-27-16, 10:10
QUOTE=Why The Face;1884630 60 year old men should be with mature 35-60 year old women who have high self esteem and better habits. / QUOTE.
Speak for yourself and take your "advice" elsewhere.You bet. I think I stopped allowing others to assess what is "appropriate" for me when I was about 20. But maybe every board needs a self-righteous moral arbiter.
WestCoast1
05-27-16, 13:44
But maybe every board needs a self-righteous moral arbiter.Haha isn't that normally my job?
Regarding all the talk of girls in SEA being more receptive to Japanese / Koreans / Chinese now, why is this the case? I have noticed this in the Philippines as well.
CallSign Papa
05-28-16, 08:19
Regarding all the talk of girls in SEA being more receptive to Japanese / Koreans / Chinese now, why is this the case? I have noticed this in the Philippines as well.Mostly it's because they'll pay 3 times more, and in the sack they'll last 3 minutes. That might be a generalisation, but it's one Phil girls have bought into wholeheartedly.
Blanquiceleste
05-28-16, 09:35
Mostly it's because they'll pay 3 times more, and in the sack they'll last 3 minutes. That might be a generalisation, but it's one Phil girls have bought into wholeheartedly.Not to mention the 3 inch joystick. Again a generalization, possibly!
Not to mention the 3 inch joystick. Again a generalization, possibly!This what girls say. Other choice words are (Needle dick, tooth pick, inchworm to name a few).
WestCoast1
05-28-16, 14:42
This what girls say. Other choice words are (Needle dick, tooth pick, inchworm to name a few).
Mostly it's because they'll pay 3 times more, and in the sack they'll last 3 minutes. That might be a generalisation, but it's one Phil girls have bought into wholeheartedly.We've heard the old joke: "Three, three, three" (as in 3 inches, 3 minutes, p3000) many times in the past. One afternoon about 7-8 years ago, I took 2 hotties from one of the Santos bars in AC. Between pops, while in light-hearted conversation with the girls, one of them made that exact same joke, then proceeded to explain it to me in detail (like it needs explaining) regarding Asian guys who come to AC.
Another time a pair of Raymond cuties told me of a gringo who was in town barfining multiple girls every night and turning them loose after barhopping, without taking them to his hotel. That's one guy. OTOH, at least a handful of AC girls have told me of rich Asians who do the exact same thing: they have no intention of taking the girl to the hotel, just out for a date. Any wonder the girls like Asian guys?
BeersTerry
05-28-16, 15:09
Manila:
Spent 3 days here at the beginning of the trip. Stayed in the Copacabana Apt. Hotel across the street from the EDSA complex. Did not have enough time to check out LA Cafe as suggested by WestCoast but spent 2 nights pulling from the EDSA complex and one night around Greenbelt Mall before going to Burgos Street.
My first night (Tuesday) was the best talent night (in EDSA) of the days spent in Manila. Got the dream girl. A big tittied spinner. Next night pulled from Plan be which had the best talent. Third night we again played lazy and pulled from EDSA.
Daytime was spent trolling every mall. Managed to catch a fashion show (very pretty models) in one ot the Makati malls, rode the LRT – won't do that again. Not as dangerous as made out but hotter than hades. Ater getting off, the 93 F Manila air felt like air conditioning. Drove 3 hours south to see the crater lake (worth missing).
Overall, Manla is a decent monger destination but it is waaaay to spread out and the city itself is a shithole.
Friday it was on to Angeles. Got a taxi for 2500 php. Tolls were 396 php each way. Checked into the Pacific Breeze. Went to RBI Steakhouse to meet Geoff who my friend told me would show me around and introduce me to some of the bar managers. Angeles was a blurr really as there is nothing to do except drink all day and play all night. Most bar managers are expats with a few Filappinos mixed in. Had a problem at such a bar, called Red Bar or something on Fields. Fcuking manager was padding my bill with his drinks as he thought I was buying. Ya!!
Memorable girl was pulled from Kings Landing that had a strong resemblance to Jessica Rabbit. Very cute and very tight body.
Angeles is a world class monger destination. What is striking are all the retired military types around here. Soldierb11 tells me there are lots there living on their cruddy military pensions. It doesn't go far when you drink all day. They are also hustling to make ends meet, it seems mostly in the food supply business. To each other, expat restaurants and bars etc. I must also admit, I am sick of smoked meat after spending 5 days in Angeles.
Other than Fields, I spent a day shooting pool at Porky's with my new friends and visiting Fire Pit after. Very good talent in Fire Pit. You have to pull fast as if you blink, the girl will be gone.
Subic Bay was next on the list as my friend lives there. Got the ten dollar tour of the base and all the goings on. Unless you are working there, Subic does not have much beyond the obvious on the strip.
Next day, decided to go to Davao. My friend fixed me up and put me in a fast cab. 4500 php and I was in Manila ariport in 3 hours. Davao was a pleasant relief from the rest of the Philippines. You can feel it. The streets are clean. The cabbies dare not cheat you. The monger scene is a little lacking. What I did find was fresh, mostly school girls trying to earn tuition money. Tried all the usual Miss I, Hot Leggs, the streets and park around city hall, Red Dragon in Chinatown. The best was Blue KTV. Walk in and there is nothing. Ask for the lineup and you will be surprised at how many girls are in the building. Cost here was 3 lady drinks at 300 ea and 2500 – 3000 php. Did the walk of shame back at the hotel.
MrWoolyBooly
05-28-16, 15:20
Newbie Trip ReportInformative with previously unreported practical insights into AC & Davao, thanks.
We are pleased to present part 1 of 2 in our informative "Thailand vs Philippines" series:
Part 1: Why Manila is a sweltering shithole that should probably be nuked from orbit.
OK so first off my reasoning behind writing this is I asked a bunch of people, "Which is better, Thailand or the PI? A simple question to which I received a myriad of of lengthy drawn out reasonings that led me to conclude the only way I'the actually find out would be to go there. Hats off to the one gent somewhere in this forum who so eloquently described Manila as a "shithole", give this guy a fucking gold star, but I couldn't rely on a single opinion so I hopped the next flight to the PI, aaaaaaaaaaaand.
He was totally right, Manila fucking blows goat balls. I am no stranger to banana republics, and it became apparent minutes after getting off the plane that this would be one of them. I was immediately set upon by two ladies in official looking garments (they looked like airport security) but in fact were taxi scammers. I should have known the minute I refused their taxi (using the excuse that I was looking for this SIM card stand, I actually was) and one of them immediate busts out a SIM card from their fanny pack (ooooooooh k you run taxis AND sell SIM cards? Well) so I bought the stupid card (which ended up being a shit older 3 G only model from Smart) and let them drag me to their stupid taxi, then sat while they got in a shouting match with the driver who had no idea how to get to fucking Greenbelt. The ride took TWO AND A HALF HOURS and cost me 1,850 pesos. I would discover on my return trip to the airport (which took 25 minutes) that the actual price in a metered cab is more like 200 pesos. FUCK, scammed already.
So this clownshit taxista drops me at the condo I've rented in Greenbelt (not without asking for a tip, hey that's not how tips work buddy, also your service sucked) and I thought, "ah, perhaps things are looking up!" because the lobby of this condo building is seriously fucking nice, with a cute concierge! I am impressed. OK up to condo aaaaaaaand my my hopes are instantly crushed. They must have got the guy from National Geographic to shoot the photos for Airbnb- your average Backpage ad provides a more realistic representation. The toilet barely flushed, and later on, would not STOP flushing (I don't actually know what happened as I opted to just leave rather than report it, whatever). I'm on the 19th floor, and looking down on the city I found myself wondering exactly where the Thunderdome was located. Manila from the sky looks like a blasted, post-apocalyptic hellscape plopped down in the middle of a giant swamp.
Things are not looking promising, but you know what? I'm here to party so let's fucking do this. I get showered and dressed and head out to Greenbelt mall, in search of an actual working SIM card and some freelancers / nonpros / whateverthefuckyouwanttocallthem. OK here I have to give some props- Greenbelt mall is really fucking nice. Its actually like 4 or 5 malls connected by catwalks spanning a huge area, several city blocks. Tons of high end stores and great restaurants. Aside from acquiring a working SIM (thanks Globe, fuck you Smart) my goal here was to just get a meter reading on the hotness of typical Pinays. I know a bunch in the States that are hot so I came with high expectations, and again, expectations crushed. In two hours of walking this mall filled with THOUSANDS of girls I came across only two or three I would qualify as "stunners". The rest were exceedingly average, most with the same body style (thin, zero boobs, no ass) I know pinays can be stacked, where are those ones at?? Serious disappointment. Also, for you older gents thinking you are going to hit on nonpros in the malls, THINK AGAIN. I am a younger cat and I stuck out like a sore thumb, everyone knows why you are there, even if you have a legitimate cover story chances are you aren't going to get the chance to lay it out for them.
So I'm heading back home and despite it being night time, THE HEAT, DEAR GOD THE HEAT. At 8 pm it is literally like being on the surface of the sun. I don't think it dropped below 90 my entire visit. I arrive back and the condo DRENCHED in sweat and PISSED because of it, now I have to shower and change all over again. A little demoralized at this point, but fuck it, let's see some titties. I start heading on foot (because traffic is gridlocked) towards P. Burgos, and this WOULD be walkable except everywhere are these fucking iron railings on the sides of the streets designed to keep people out of traffic. You literally cannot get from point A to point be on foot, it is fucking INFURIATING. Also, the TRAFFIC, OH MY GOD. The two major entertainment areas, Burgos and EDSA / Malate are on opposite sides of the city. If you think you're going to just bounce back and forth from one to the other, fucking think again!! You could be looking at an hour in the cab EACH WAY during some times, other times might take 20 minutes.
On that topic, MANY other things in this country make zero fucking sense. Example: there is a McDonalds outside of Greenbelt 3, which was PACKED and the line takes FOREVER, why? Well for one, they don't accept credit cards!! Are we in the fucking twilight zone? A massive, multinational corporation, outside of one of the largest malls in the city, does not accept credit cards. OK THEN.
So here is the part you are waiting for. I finally arrive at P. Burgos, sweaty and enraged, to a scene I can only describe as reminiscent of the cantina in Star Wars. Midgets, homeless people with no limbs, stray dogs and MASSIVE mutated rats. These giant armada-sized cockroaches are EVERYWHERE, look down and there's one crawling over your foot at any given time- they are so big any sane person would opt for retreat rather than stepping on one, I'm not spending an hour cleaning that shit off my fine Italian shoe. I walk into a random bar / gogo and I'm the only one there, and instantly set upon by a gaggle of hags. It was like this in many of the bars- I've heard business is not good on Burgos and the lack of both customers and acceptable (7+) talent seems to confirm that. Also the Burgos track is quite small, there simply aren't a lot of bars, you can cover the whole thing in 10 minutes on foot. What there WERE a lot of in this area, was children begging, DEEPLY UNSETTLING!! I can immediately understand why this would be a prime destination for a certain type of dirtbag- and if any of them are reading this now, I hope you burn forever in the 9th layer of hell. I met a sketchy American outside smoking and told him what a shit time I was having, he told me that most of the girls here have chlamydia, and he looked like he was speaking from personal experience. That's all I needed to hear, CHECK PLEASE!
Literally RAN back to the condo and started packing. After a short nap, ditched my key with security and hopped the nearest cab to the airport. NO idea where I was going, the answer was, NOT HERE. The cab ride to the airport was the most pleasant part of the trip BY FAR. This old dude spoke zero english and was a fucking DEMON behind the wheel!! Got me there in 25 minutes flat, I was so fucking ecstatic, the meter read 200, I gave him 500, he looked at me like I just put his kids through college. Big ups taxi man, YOU THE REAL MVP!!
SO, in a nutshell-.
Total time in the Philippines: Around 19 hours.
Climate: Seventh layer of Hell.
City infrastructure: TWO MEN ENTER ONE MAN LEAVES.
Residents: Many are rude or scammers, they know what you are there for and they don't like it / you.
Average attractiveness of females: Not worth a second look.
Total girls slayed: FUCKING ZERO.
See, this is what I fucking get for trying something new. Well no more of that shit, I'm not fucking around now. I head for the PI Airlines ticket office and book passage to the one place I know will never disappoint me, mufukkin Bangkok baby!! And more specifically Pattaya, to which I'the never been before. Something old, something new, some hot girls for me to screw.
Stay tuned for part 2 (coming soon, in the Thailand forum): Why Thailand is totally amazing and other observations that aren't completely fucking obvious.
SO, in a nutshell-.
Total time in the Philippines: Around 19 hours.
Climate: Seventh layer of Hell.
City infrastructure: TWO MEN ENTER ONE MAN LEAVES.
Residents: Many are rude or scammers, they know what you are there for and they don't like it / you.
Average attractiveness of females: Not worth a second look.
Total girls slayed: FUCKING ZERO.
See, this is what I fucking get for trying something new. Well no more of that shit, I'm not fucking around now. I head for the PI Airlines ticket office and book passage to the one place I know will never disappoint me, mufukkin Bangkok baby!! And more specifically Pattaya, to which I'the never been before. Something old, something new, some hot girls for me to screw.
Stay tuned for part 2 (coming soon, in the Thailand forum): Why Thailand is totally amazing and other observations that aren't completely fucking obvious.I'm still deciding if I go with the "I'm so sorry you had a poor experience on your first visit to the Philippines" or "what a fricken moron, gets scammed with the oldest tricks, can't even find a SIM stall in Greenbelt, etc". I mean you go to a third world country and are upset at their lack of development. What? It was hot? Humid? No way. This was like a rant by a 7 year old. I'm sure you're angry about a lot of other things in real life. Be positive, try to find what's good about both countries, it's not like Thailand doesn't have its shortcomings too.
Midgets, homeless people with no limbs, stray dogs and MASSIVE mutated rats. These giant armada-sized cockroaches are EVERYWHERE, look down and there's one crawling over your foot at any given time- they are so big any sane person would opt for retreat rather than stepping on one, I'm not spending an hour cleaning that shit off my fine Italian shoe.You could be describing Bangkok Sukhumvit with this quote. I haven't noticed the heat in Manila as much as I did in Bangkok, but then I never walk anywhere during daylight in Manila as I am usually sleeping and there is no place to walk to.
My Burgos experience has been the same as yours, every time I've given it another chance. For me, it is a good place for people watching but that is about it. A LOT of transvestites on the street and in the cafes. As in Bangkok, the girls are looking to maximize their buck for the bang; we try to get the most bang for the buck. Sometimes we win, sometimes they win.
As you've found out, Manila doesn't offer the proximity of venues that Bangkok has. If you are here for a short visit, you need to pick your poison and stick with it, unless you like sitting in a taxi for a couple of hours. I usually stay at a hotel in walking distance to EDSA, where I have never failed to find a girl that meets my (very picky) criteria for the night, and get a much better GFE than I have in Bangkok in the last 5 years. I've walked back from Nana Plaza empty handed more that once. The Mall of Asia is a 10 minute cab ride from my hotel, not as glitzy as Greenbelt but an OK place to meet a girl and get some edible food. The airport is about 30 minutes away when I leave to catch the morning flight to Narita.
Bangkok and Manila both have their allures, and their kicks in the crotch. At this time, Manila is a better fit for me. But I miss a lot of things about Bangkok and hope you enjoy your visit there.
We are pleased to present part 1 of 2 in our informative "Thailand vs Philippines" series:
Part 1: Why Manila is a sweltering shithole that should probably be nuked from orbit.
Why Thailand is totally amazing and other observations that aren't completely fucking obvious.If you had gone to LA Cafe in Manila in the evening you would have had a totally different experience in regards to available women and would have probably found at least something to your liking. The reality is that you generally can have a better GFE experience at a lower cost in the Philippines versus Thailand and most everybody speaks English as well. However as you noted, Manila is a pigsty of a City and disgusting.
BeersTerry
06-03-16, 17:33
OK so first off my reasoning behind writing this is I asked a bunch of people, "Which is better, Thailand or the PI? A simple question to which I received a myriad of of lengthy drawn out reasonings that led me to conclude the only way I'the actually find out would be to go there. Hats off to the one gent somewhere in this forum who so eloquently described Manila as a "shithole", give this guy a fucking gold star, but I couldn't rely on a single opinion so I hopped the next flight to the PI, aaaaaaaaaaaand.
Manila is a shithole!!
Like Latin America, the people are the progeny of psychopaths and sociopaths emptied from Spain's prisons oh so long ago.
Not great breeding stock unless you are trying to create a low IQ environment. Oh wait, the Philippines is a low IQ (sub 90) environment!
You want hot? I rode the LRT just to ride it. When I got off, the 93 F outside temperature felt like air conditioning.
Go to Angeles. IMO it is a world class monger destination, all packaged nicely in a close area.
Member #4387
06-03-16, 18:31
Hats off to the one gent somewhere in this forum who so eloquently described Manila as a "shithole", give this guy a fucking gold star, but I couldn't rely on a single opinion so I hopped the next flight to the PI, aaaaaaaaaaaand.
Manila is a shithole!!
Thanks. I don't know if I actually take credit from someone else here but I have on occations described Manila as a shithole. I am not so negative as you though as I meet 20 to 40 nice girls each trip (at least I think they are pretty / fuckable but beauty is as we know in the eye of the beholder). I come here 15 to 20 times a year. Even if I can't stand the place as a whole I have found myself a few safehavens (Makati / Glorietta) with almost western standards (obvious reasons I come here quite frequent but I do sometimes combine in mongering as well) and a few other places where I stay within the hotel boarders.
So when I just stay put in one place and doesn't move I tend to not think to much about that I am in the shithole called Manila (I mean after my blodpreassure drops back to normal after the initial taxiride from NAIA T3/ trappic). I have fun here and I enjoy good western standards almost without hickups.
Quite a rant you got there, hehe, I laughed my ass off reading. I agree Thai(BKK) and Indo(Jakarta)girls are better in general but there are gems in phils as well and they are not so hard to come by.
I cannot recommend it. AC, elevator, plumbing was old and not working properly. The swagman bus to Angeles is old, and the Air conditioning sucked. For the price, it should be nice.
I didn't even bother with LA Café due to the scare reports here of runners / scams etc. All I needed was a girl crying she got robbed and calling her uncle the cop.
I flew in, and headed to Angeles. More reports in angeles and Makati sections.
I cannot recommend it. AC, elevator, plumbing was old and not working properly. The swagman bus to Angeles is old, and the Air conditioning sucked. For the price, it should be nice.
I didn't even bother with LA Caf due to the scare reports here of runners / scams etc. All I needed was a girl crying she got robbed and calling her uncle the cop.
I flew in, and headed to Angeles. More reports in angeles and Makati sections.I would not stay at swagman either. But their bus or van service to Angeles is convenient and good. There are couple of other decent hotels nearby. Best western is pretty good. Their renovated deluxe room is very good. Bayview park around the corner is decent although here you have a walk of shame, mostly caters to families. Both have decent included breakfast. Both are girl friendly if you book for two. La cafe is not bad as you think. There are gems to be had. Many are old but you do get some part timers who want to make quick bucks.
Unfortunately la cafe is not what it used to be before. Only problem is all spinner types are attracted to Koreans.
I'm still deciding if I go with the "I'm so sorry you had a poor experience on your first visit to the Philippines" or "what a fricken moron, gets scammed with the oldest tricks, can't even find a SIM stall in Greenbelt, etc".
You are certainly free to describe me the second way! If I am to criticize, then I must also accept criticism as well, but let us be ACCURATE- I was scammed at the AIRPORT, I had no problems locating the Globe store in Greenbelt. It sounds like you basically agree with everything I wrote, you just don't like the way I said it. If by "be positive" you mean "sugar-coat it so nobody's feelings get hurt" I'm sorry I simply cannot accommodate you, I think it is far more important to provide ACCURATE information. I realize my writing might be a tad bit hyperbolic- but did I tell the truth or did I not? Please understand nothing in what I wrote was meant to insult the PI, its citizens, or anyone who enjoys vacationing there, these are only my personal SUBJECTIVE observations.
As you've found out, Manila doesn't offer the proximity of venues that Bangkok has. If you are here for a short visit, you need to pick your poison and stick with it, unless you like sitting in a taxi for a couple of hours.
Could not have said it better myself, this fact was really at the crux of my displeasure- once I laid eyes on Burgos and had my "wait- this is it? Moment, I could simply not rationalize spending a week stranded in this particular area with such a lack of options. I WAS very curious about EDSA, it sounds like my kind of place, but honestly once the urge to flee set in, that was all she wrote.
If you had gone to LA Cafe in Manila in the evening you would have had a totally different experience in regards to available women and would have probably found at least something to your liking. The reality is that you generally can have a better GFE experience at a lower cost in the Philippines versus Thailand and most everybody speaks English as well. However as you noted, Manila is a pigsty of a City and disgusting.
That english is widely spoken in PI was the original selling point for me- that is definitely a big advantage over Thailand. The few girls I did meet were certainly quite friendly (it was more the people in the various service industries that I found a bit rude) but the city is really just SO objectionable. I like girls as much as everyone here but I feel like I should maybe do SOMETHING else on vacation besides party (what am I going to use for a cover story?) and in Manila, that list of "something else" is frightfully small.
You want hot? I rode the LRT just to ride it. When I got off, the 93 F outside temperature felt like air conditioning.
Go to Angeles. IMO it is a world class monger destination, all packaged nicely in a close area.
LOL- I did hear that about the LRT, from SEVERAL people (some former Manila residents)! Although I was desperate for cross-town transportation, sitting in an oven on wheels was never a realistic option for me (while suffering may be a part of my day-to-day existence, I refuse to accept it in any form on my vacations).
IF (huge if here) I ever return to the PI, Angeles and Palawan (the place that I really regret missing out on- it looks amazing in photos) will certainly be my only prospective destinations.
So when I just stay put in one place and doesn't move I tend to not think to much about that I am in the shithole called Manila (I mean after my blodpreassure drops back to normal after the initial taxiride from NAIA T3/ trappic). I have fun here and I enjoy good western standards almost without hickups.
Quite a rant you got there, hehe, I laughed my ass off reading. I agree Thai(BKK) and Indo(Jakarta)girls are better in general but there are gems in phils as well and they are not so hard to come by.
Absolutely- I have a really low tolerance for BS, and the one thought that kept constantly floating through my mind was "THIS PLACE REALLY GETS MY FUCKING PRESSURE UP". At the rate I was going I was about to have a stroke by day 2, it just quickly started to become the polar opposite of what vacation should be.
Thank you I'm glad you laughed, my intent was not only to inform but also entertain! .
I am in Pattaya now, annnnnd this is pretty much exactly what I was looking for. Just the right amount of seedy, but still overall fairly clean, food is excellent (Casa Pascal, WHOA- color me impressed! Prices not outrageous, lots of non-girl activities, people are friendly, girls EXCEEDINGLY friendly, and 4 p options were LIMITLESS, I mean seriously I have never, anywhere, seen so many girls crammed in to one place, its borderline absurd. I can see how it might get old after a long, LONG time but for the moment I am finding it just fucking exceptional!
UNBELIEVABLE! Xion, you must be hideous. Or you just didn't try. Despite its squalor I thought it was impossible not to get laid in Manila.
Total girls slayed: FUCKING ZERO.
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BeersTerry
06-04-16, 15:52
Holy cow! Didn't you people just take Xion's post as humour? IMO it is pretty good writing.
I too also ran into the friggin' scammer saying that the hotel offered a transit bus even though I told him I was waiting for a taxi. Mutherfocker had me walk down to the store front, way too far in the heat. I kept inquiring if it was free. He finally told me the price after about 5 minutes. I voiced my displeasure as BM's were kind enough to tell me that the cost of a cab from Terminal 1 to Pasay was at most 200 php.
Pasay: I purposely picked a hotel across from EDSA as it was most convenient should I wish to cab to any other areea such as Malate or Ermita. Staying in Makati would limit you to Burgos St and Greenbelt Mall. Did not like Havana Cafe as it was friggin' hot and I was not going troll nor sit outside sweating. IMO Makati is like a mini Angeles City at twice the price or more. I personally did not find the talent any better than Angeles, though one could argue that there may have been 3 - 4 hotties in a lineup rather than the 2 - 3 which I found in an Angeles lineup.
Insult the PI ????? The country is a shithole!
WestCoast1
06-04-16, 16:10
Xion, there's so much here, I will split this response into two posts. Great Field Report! Even though you had a bad experience (we all have at some point), your reporting is accurate and descriptive. Thanks for that (newbs take note). Having said that, here we go! From your first report:
So I'm heading back home and despite it being night time, THE HEAT, DEAR GOD THE HEAT. At 8 pm it is literally like being on the surface of the sun. I don't think it dropped below 90 my entire visit. I arrive back and the condo DRENCHED in sweat and PISSED because of it, now I have to shower and change all over again. Temps will run about 88 at night, and 92 in the day. Its a bit like Hawaii (72 at night, 75 during the day), but hotter. You understand its the tropics, near the equator, yes? One could make the same claim in Indonesia and central / south america.
You literally cannot get from point A to point be on foot, it is fucking INFURIATING. Also, the TRAFFIC, OH MY GOD. The two major entertainment areas, Burgos and EDSA / Malate are on opposite sides of the city. If you think you're going to just bounce back and forth from one to the other, fucking think again!! You could be looking at an hour in the cab EACH WAY during some times, other times might take 20 minutes.Well-documented, in fact legendary, right? Much more infuriating is what the locals must do: ride a open-air jeepney (try it!) across town for work, 1-2 hour (each way, each day). You think you have it bad in an air-con taxi?
On that topic, MANY other things in this country make zero fucking sense. Example: there is a McDonalds outside of Greenbelt 3, which was PACKED and the line takes FOREVER, why? Well for one, they don't accept credit cards!! Are we in the fucking twilight zone? A massive, multinational corporation, outside of one of the largest malls in the city, does not accept credit cards. OK THEN.They don't take CC for several reasons. Its a cash-based society, poor folk don't have CC. Less than half the adults in RP even have an ID of any kind. Another factor: A credit-card swipe device must be hooked to relatively high-speed internet for any transaction. HSI is not readily available in phils. Using dial-up speed equipment would make CC transactions take too much time in a fast-food joint. CC is more available in sit-down restaurants, where they can take your CC and process it while you are finishing your meal. Its much faster for the McDonalds counter personnel to make change with cash than for you to swipe your CC / ATM.
I finally arrive at P. Burgos, sweaty and enraged, to a scene I can only describe as reminiscent of the cantina in Star Wars. Midgets, homeless people with no limbs, stray dogs and MASSIVE mutated rats. These giant armada-sized cockroaches are EVERYWHERE, look down and there's one crawling over your foot at any given time- they are so big any sane person would opt for retreat rather than stepping on one, Cultural phantasmagoria. Beautiful, ain't it? One man's ceiling is another man's floor.
I'm not spending an hour cleaning that shit off my fine Italian shoe. Um. You weren't really wearing nice clothes, right? That's like wearing bling. You wouldn't do that in Mexico or Medellin. You become a target. Well-document here.
What there WERE a lot of in this area, was children begging, DEEPLY UNSETTLING!! I can immediately understand why this would be a prime destination for a certain type of dirtbag- and if any of them are reading this now, I hope you burn forever in the 9th layer of hell. Its also a prime destination for non-dirtbags. However, like swallowing cum (or whiskey), its an acquired thing. One must repeat in order to get used to it.
I met a sketchy American outside smoking and told him what a shit time I was having, he told me that most of the girls here have chlamydia, and he looked like he was speaking from personal experience. That's all I needed to hear, CHECK PLEASE!You believed that? You're smarter than that.
See, this is what I fucking get for trying something new. Well no more of that shit, I'm not fucking around now. I head for the PI Airlines ticket office and book passage to the one place I know will never disappoint me, mufukkin Bangkok baby!! And more specifically Pattaya, to which I'the never been before. Something old, something new, some hot girls for me to screw.
Stay tuned for part 2 (coming soon, in the Thailand forum): Why Thailand is totally amazing and other observations that aren't completely fucking obvious. This doesn't jibe with your previous Bangkok post:
Nice report Chill Out! On the second to last day of my trip, I find myself wondering the same thing: where are the 9's and 10's? Or shit, even the 8's seem to be in short supply.
What I really want now is to just find the smoking hot chicks. You know the kind you see at import tuner car shows and shit- whatever the cost! I've already wasted several days sifting for diamonds among the garbage, now I just want to throw money at the problem. Please no lectures on prices, if you know where these chicks are, even if its one of these JP clip joints, or some overpriced escort service, let me know and I'll come with the bangin trip report. Rainbow 4 was unimpressive (and girls bitchy) , Baccara was probly the best so far but I'm still not wow'd by anything I've seen here thus far.
WestCoast1
06-04-16, 16:35
And from your second (your response): So correct on many counts.
You are certainly free to describe me the second way! If I am to criticize, then I must also accept criticism as well, but let us be ACCURATE- I was scammed at the AIRPORT, I had no problems locating the Globe store in Greenbelt. It sounds like you basically agree with everything I wrote, you just don't like the way I said it. If by "be positive" you mean "sugar-coat it so nobody's feelings get hurt" I'm sorry I simply cannot accommodate you, I think it is far more important to provide ACCURATE information. I realize my writing might be a tad bit hyperbolic- but did I tell the truth or did I not?You told the truth.
Could not have said it better myself, this fact was really at the crux of my displeasure- once I laid eyes on Burgos and had my "wait- this is it? Moment, I could simply not rationalize spending a week stranded in this particular area with such a lack of options.Welcome to a new culture. I find it difficult to stay in any of the main locations (AC, Burgos / Makati, Malate) for more than a few nights. Every monger should experience Burgos at least once.
I WAS very curious about EDSA, it sounds like my kind of place, but honestly once the urge to flee set in, that was all she wrote. Most likely it would be your kind of place. However, MBC or G-Point freelance bars, which are not far from EDSA, would probably not be your cup of tea (older / hags).
That english is widely spoken in PI was the original selling point for me- that is definitely a big advantage over Thailand. The few girls I did meet were certainly quite friendly (it was more the people in the various service industries that I found a bit rude) but the city is really just SO objectionable. Correct. However, all of this is well-documented on this board. Lying and scamming are more accepted in phils culture, and can be quite a turn-off for westerners. Food ain't good. Troppic can be horrendous. 'Regular' girls will be an hour (or more) late to meeting with you (traffic = horrendous). Remember, its you who must adapt to their culture (which is well-documented here), not the other way around.
I like girls as much as everyone here but I feel like I should maybe do SOMETHING else on vacation besides party (what am I going to use for a cover story?) and in Manila, that list of "something else" is frightfully small. Respectfully disagree. There are fewer 'typically-touristy' things to do here, but there are other things; and they take time to come across, repeat visits, as they are not 'typically-touristy".
Although I was desperate for cross-town transportation, sitting in an oven on wheels was never a realistic option for me (while suffering may be a part of my day-to-day existence, I refuse to accept it in any form on my vacations). Interesting observation. Your previous field reports (its been a while between) show you have visited other shitholes. Philippines culture being a well-documented blood-boiler is openly visible on this (and other) boards. In fact, there is an entire board called philippinefailblog.com. Please read the rantings on this board of myself and GoodEnough of various east-west cultural pissoffs.
IF (huge if here) I ever return to the PI, Angeles and Palawan (the place that I really regret missing out on- it looks amazing in photos) will certainly be my only prospective destinations. Don't do that. Don't go there based on nice pics or advertisements. Even the crappiest of hotels make themselves look good online. Talk to gents who have been, ask them specific questions: "Is it as hot in Palawan as Manila"?
Absolutely- I have a really low tolerance for BS, and the one thought that kept constantly floating through my mind was "THIS PLACE REALLY GETS MY FUCKING PRESSURE UP". At the rate I was going I was about to have a stroke by day 2, it just quickly started to become the polar opposite of what vacation should be. Welcome to pinas. It would appear that you did not RTTF.
On this thought, I rec'd a PM recently from a gent who will come to phils soon for his maiden visit, and set up a party for some of his buddies who will be joining. He has questions (thanks guy for not asking those on the open board). However, his questions are of the vague type: What is a centrally located hotel (central to what)? Which city has the best girls (what do you mean by best)? And so on. Gents, please ask specific questions.
BeersTerry
06-04-16, 18:48
Xion, if you can be accused of anything, it is that you were not prepared for the everyday third world scamming that goes on. As a veteran traveller, you should be aware that taxi drivers tend to be some of the biggest scammers in most countries.
Same with phone cards. For 500 php, I bought a sim card and enough minutes for the 2 weeks I was in the Phils. There were lots of kiosks inside the airport as well as vending machines where you could have purchased a sim card for about USD $3.
WestCoast1, that Philippine Fail Blog is one funny site.
Any prognostication regarding if / how Duterte's inauguration might impact things in Manila? Not the fact he's going to be president, but the fact he's being inaugurated 6/30. Any expectations of tourism / mongering challenges week before and / or after the event?
Part 1: Why Manila is a sweltering shithole that should probably be nuked from orbit.
Manila fucking blows goat balls. FUCK, scammed already.
THE HEAT, DEAR GOD THE HEAT.
Also, the TRAFFIC, OH MY GOD.
Midgets, homeless people with no limbs, stray dogs and MASSIVE mutated rats. These giant armada-sized cockroaches are EVERYWHERE,
Average attractiveness of females: Not worth a second look.
Total girls slayed: FUCKING ZERO.
You, my friend, are my new hero. Anything to keep these awkward PUA dweebs away from the Philippines is a service to mankind.
You're right, there's nothing for you here. Tell your friends. And the Thailand McDonald's is more delicious too. Enjoy your Big Macs.
GoodEnough
06-05-16, 08:20
I found Xion's report hilarious, and his use of hyperbole to depict the horrified reaction of a new comer to the city both very funny and extremely well written: it's sort of a pastiche of Apocolypse Now and Wayne's World. I hope he goes to Angeles eventually for a day or so and writes about that as well.
The fact is that for most, this is not a great holiday venue; it's got miserable infrastructure, doesn't manage anything particularly well, offers nothing of cultural interest to the casual visitor and in general proffers nothing that isn't done better in other countries. Plus, the wretched airport experience alone, for those who haven't yet learned to anticipate and circumvent scams can offer reason enough to start wondering "what the hell have I done?" before the official vacation even begins. Zion's narrative depicts all of that and more.
Longer-term residents, frequent visitors or even first timers with a high level of tolerance for inconvenience can pierce the veil of fourth world grimness and find a richer, more satisfying experience but that takes some work, and I can well understand those who don't want to make the effort and just want to have an immediately enjoyable holiday. Thailand offers that type of experience and the Philippines doesn't even come close. It's unfortunate that for many, Manila--together with its intrinsic navigational nightmares--and Angeles City, represent the entire country.
GE.
BrainDrain
06-06-16, 00:58
My requirement was to be met at Terminal 3 on a Sunday afternoon. I only had one night in Manila for appointments in Ortigas. I didn't want to be mucked abut looking for a girl or having her say she was 'coming' and arrive four hours later. I gte bored in the various drives around Manila. Also get bored of the chase if the girl is no a certainty.
Lined up a nice girl via a FB friend of a friend. I still can't backtrack how I came to be FB friends with her. This girl is an OFW that is in between assignments. She is in MNL doing some additional training course to prepare for her next job.
Upon arrival at MNL T3, I text her from the Tarmac and she is already waiting in the terminal. Walk out, quickly identify her in a lovely green shirt, hail an Uber and we were on our way to Ortigas.
In the car, lots of body language, holding hands etc. At the hotel, she was shy, but she is cute. Out for some quick filipino food, back to the hotel. She was rather shy in bed too so not the best experience. Morning glory was similar, her mind really was on her training and her next assignment. Breakfast together and she was on her way with her P1000.
This is the fourth time I've lined up an MNL airport arrival. I would certainly do it again.
BD.
Pinaypounder
06-06-16, 08:39
If you had gone to LA Cafe in Manila in the evening you would have had a totally different experience in regards to available women and would have probably found at least something to your liking. The reality is that you generally can have a better GFE experience at a lower cost in the Philippines versus Thailand and most everybody speaks English as well. However as you noted, Manila is a pigsty of a City and disgusting.6 - 7 years ago MBS was SWEET, I met and made some classy hot broads there, now YUCK. Took my GF there to meet women and it was BAD.
Manila is truly a shithole of EPIC proportions. The lack of logic as Xion pointed out is LEGEND (wait for it) dary!
I have spent 3 of the last 7 months in the Philippines, I have work there so I have to go.
The ONLY thing better about the philippines is that you can date "normal" girls who are so easy to fuck it makes me think I am handsome. There are LOTS of normal girls to fuck and this is my preferred modia operandi! But the women are more attractive in Thailand and the PROS are PROS and you get what you pay for!
In Thailand fucking "normal girls" is a challenge.
Cebu is better than manila but in 5 years the traffic there will be almost as bad!
Roger Sideways
06-07-16, 07:19
This field report is in several parts, chronicling 5 days in the Philippines and 3 days in Thailand in early May 2016. I have been RTFF for months in preparation for this trip, and after my success on dating sites last year in Bali I decided to use the same again in the Phils, with some success as you will see. In BKK I am mainly interested in the massages and Gogo scene so I didn't bother with any pipelining and that worked out fine as well.
Day 1.
Within 90 minutes of my arrival at the Bayview Park hotel my first Pinalove sweetie was at the hotel. 23 years old with a bit of baby belly, but absolutely gorgeous. We had been chatting increasingly lewdly online so there was not much hesitation getting our gear off, and in no time she was squealing with pleasure on the end of my tongue. She came twice, and then brought me to a very satisfying BBBJCIM swallowing the lot with a grin. I was still hard, thanks to vitamin V so she hopped straight on top for a few strokes more.
We shared a simple meal from room service, then my jet lag cut in, so I tossed and turned while she watched movies and ate the chocolates from the mini bar until 3 am.
Next morning she jumped on my bed and took me in her mouth again, then hopped on for some cowgirl and a doggie finish. Good morning world!
Buffet breakfast at the hotel and I sent her on her way with 3 k to cover her taxis and help with the rent. She had a big smile on her face and so did I. And that's just the first 12 hours.
Roger Sideways
06-07-16, 07:23
Day 2.
The day begins with the phone going crazy. Pinalove girls making contact, wechat offers of "massage with extras, no rush, for 2500". And Skype contacts saying Hi. Gradually sorting out the wheat from the chaff.
Sorting details for Friday foursome.
Lunch with an interesting lady from wechat. Wealthy professional. We clicked in conversation but neither of us felt the need to jump into bed together.
Checked out a bar called Muddys. Very borng.
LA Cafe was jumping at 5. 30 pm. Offered a threesome by two very passable ladies before my first mouthful of beer.
Staff uniforms are sexy short skirts and singlet tops. FLs are in civilian clothes.
Ate a plastic hawaiian burger and surveyed the scene.
As soon as I finished my burger I was immediately pounced on by a lovely but when I told her that my mum always told me to leave 30 minutes between eating and fucking she withdrew with a smile.
While I was eating I saw a beautiful short girl with a red top and the most magnificent breasts. I gave her the eye but I'm sure lots of other people did too. But a few moments later she came over to me and started playing up to me outrageously. Practically giving me a lap dance there in the cafe. She started feeling my cock through my pants and made compliments about it, which was my cue to suggest that she could use a friend to assist. She called over a thin girl in a green velvet dress and I bought them each a drink. From then on we made a bit of an exhibition of ourselves, even to the extent of a couple of escaped nipples which could have had us thrown out. We negotiated 2 k each including some girl-girl action, and it was on. Back to my hotel. Some laughs and admiring looks from security as the girls handed over their ID and we were in the room. Everything proceeded as planned and a good time was had by all.
Roger Sideways
06-07-16, 07:26
The busty girl offered to stay with me overnight but I opted for a solid nights sleep. Woke up feeling horny so scanned wechat for other early risers. Negotiated 2000 for an early morning massage and blowjob from a pretty young thing. Turned out to be a ladyboy but I decided what the heck, and I certainly got my money's worth.
The highlight of day 3 was a Pinalove contact who was bringing her two friends so we could enjoy the hotel pool. I brought perfume and a tiny bikini for each girl, and also promised them 2000 each to help with their studies. Lunch and a couple of rounds of beers meant that the total cost for the afternoon was probably about 10,000 pesos but I had the company of three gorgeous young things in bikinis at the pool for the afternoon, and back in my room wearing nothing at all later in the day. They were a bit giggly and shy, which added to the charm, but once we all had our clothes off they had no problems performing in front of each other. BBBJ BBFS and no problems swapping between rides. A fun way to spend the day.
Woke feeling horny, which came as no surprise. But I did not want to over exert myself. Summoned up a lovely 23 year old masseuse from Juicy Home Massage via wechat. She arrived at my hotel room just after 6 am in a very official looking uniform. Gave me a very thorough and energetic massage for 2 hours, with a nice oily HJ at half time on the flip. Damage was 500 for the massage and 1000 for the HJ. This set me up perfectly for a day of sightseeing.
Roger Sideways
06-07-16, 07:29
Day 5 began with a massage with BJ in hotel room 2000 via wechat (a girl this time). Quick and easy.
Visited Burgos St early in the evening. Had a drink in every bar up and down, and repeats in several.
Wow wow wow was by far the sleaziest.
Bottoms was disappointing.
Could not get a BJ in the bar anywhere without paying the ridiculous 3900 php bar fine.
But in Moulin Rouge I did manage to get an excellent HJ at the expense of 1000 each for the two lovelies who administered the procedure, plus a few drinks for each of them and 2 for the mamasan.
The story continues in the Bangkok forum.
WestCoast1
06-07-16, 15:58
We negotiated 2 k each including some girl-girl action, and it was on. Back to my hotel. Some laughs and admiring looks from security as the girls handed over their ID and we were in the room. Everything proceeded as planned and a good time was had by all.
Next morning she jumped on my bed and took me in her mouth again, then hopped on for some cowgirl and a doggie finish. Good morning world!
Buffet breakfast at the hotel and I sent her on her way with 3 k to cover her taxis and help with the rent. She had a big smile on her face and so did I. And that's just the first 12 hours.RS: Excellent (descriptive) entry on the phils boards! Newbs take note.
Notice the very different experiences of RS and (recently) Xion.
One of the great differences, I think, between phils and other countries, is the consistent easy finding of girl-friendly partners, either thru dating sites or p4 p. Where else can you step off a plane, Wechat a girl and have her at your hotel an hour later, have the girl for a few hours, slip her some tuition help and send her on her way, and have another Wechat girl show up a few hours later (and bring 2 of her friends)? If all that fails, you can walk into FL bars and grab whatever grabs your attention. It really is an amazing place where its easy to cause the panties to drop. However, it doesn't happen like this every time, nor to every guy.
Thanks again RS. Newbs, note that RS had RTTF.
Member #4387
06-09-16, 08:32
Just finished up a small 6 days stay and what a blast I had (to some not suprising). My daughter just broke her leg due to a fall at the Intl kindergartens playground. Fabulous service and attendance at St Lukes and a nice bouquet of flowers to the staffs at the Makati intl playground.
Sex: did a swift 28 ladies in 6 full days stay (after the baby issue ofcourse). Its been fun and regarding prices / pricings I have no comments others than just pay what your mind and / or wallet allowes you (what feels right). You can dive into inflation and severe calculations regarding fair pricings but I do tend to nod towards that pussy isn't actually a part of this. Pussy runs its own courses and will be subjected to what the market is willing to pay any given day (a girl offered 2 k Wednesday and 7 k Thursday, she's fine with both). I have a hidden fix pricing system. Hidden bcs only I know what I will give the girls. Since we never debated pricing upfront, I don't want to be an asshole and offer them dimes and coins only for, normaly, great service. 1 k, 2 k what is that for western guys(3 to 5 in my cases)? Nothing in my book. I could not care less if I destroy the socalled market of which some are so afraid of will go out of its porportions.
As a, thanks God, non resident / expat in phils, I allways compare pricings to where I live (no matter how others go out of their good skin Me thinking like that). phils is totaly cheap in most cases ex fancy hotels (runs same pricings globaly mostly). I don't let any of the "they earn only 10 to 12 thousands a month" come into play when I decide my giftings. Anyhow its well deserved (have very few non performers). I have on occations skipped a proper screening so a fugly girl shows up my doorstep. In most cases I can use them to do something useful as cutting nails, ironing shirts, tide the place up etc etc. Here I gift 1 to 2 k.
Meeting girls should be pure fun and no stat race in how to get most value for his moneys etc. Its all subjective what we consider sane and unsane so meeting girls will lay along this line as tated before(to me, crazy or not):-)
Heard from the latest bird I met as I was talking about she got 50% increase from the ammount 3 k as we were dinish fucking. She starts to do her assignments (nothing much to do realy as I have housekeepings) and I can see she's not happy. I ask why you look angry? Her response is epic: "you only pay me 50 piso extra for all this work"(I guess they skipped the % at school). She had no clue sho got an extra 1500 as in 4500 hundreds ip front.
I donated according to my general rule 3 k after sex. I was in a bad steam for a while, this trip, as many girls had to cancell the set date/time. By turning my sched upside down I got to the finishline and met almost everyone ID plan to meet. With a few darkhorses arriving from nowhere. Its all about having fun as long as heart and mind treats the girls good.
Manila was great in its day, and still good, but without taking the time to understand how that insane city (and country) 'works' will clearly be to your disadvantage - - if Caveat Emptor ever applied anywhere, it has to be The Philippines as getting screwed with a smile is an art form. Insidious also comes to mind. But when challenged, they'll back off, but if you're stupid enough to fall for it, well as Gordon Gekko said 'a fool and his money are lucky to get together in the first place'.
NAIA Arrival. Do not think of taking anything but a metered taxi, which are more readily available in T1 than T2, and God forbid, T3. First option: Find the only way up (there will only be 1) to the departure level and get a taxi meter there, at T3 there will be a queue of Filipinos toward the end of the Terminal drop off, if some rent-a-cop tries to stop you, tell him you missed your flight. If you or your TA had a serious brain fart and arrived during December or Holy Week, well, Caveat Emptor. But most the time this strategy will work. DO NOT buy a transport from some uniformed goon calling you 'Sir' holding a price list dated circa 2006, PP1800 to Makati is absurd. Patience required. And if the departure level is fucked, well I've even waded out onto the street and flagged a taxi there. Just don't bring a steamer trunk and golf bag, otherwise you will be fucked. Also, if you are transiting to a domestic 'fright', allow 3+ hours break.
AirBnB Makati. With so many decent, 3*+ hotels around, screw this option. You will be surprised and lucky if you have hot water, water pressure better than a squirt gun, air conditioning lower than 30 degrees, 10 k 'broadband', and a shit lift that can only accommodate 3-4 maids who spend their entire day going up and down as many times as possible for their PP200 daily salary. Maybe the newer condos will be OK BUT again, Caveat Emptor. Try the City Garden Grand Hotel near Padre Burgos, about US $100 net. Or some of the other, newer ones nearby. Totally girl friendly. On other side of town, try Pan Pacific, not bad, or others nearby, even the Manila Hotel can be had at a decent price. Across from EDSA Entertainment Complex, where I've yet to catch the clap, or worse- the Heritage Hotel is passable. The new Hyatt is pricey. In both locations, your doormen can be a great resource, use them wisely. And you've thought you'd been knighted for how many times you'd been called 'Sir' in a day, after a week of that treatment back to the UK and bow only to the Queen. And your infectious disease specialist, if unlucky.
Padre Burgos. Straight from the Eastwood movie, there are some Good, Bad, and Ugly. Best value seems to be Rogues, also good during the day. Dimples been there forever, I always liked Rascals for quality, young, good-looking dancers. Ivory now closed for hiring unsuitable, I. E. Too young employees. Jools can be good, not all dancers in play. Avoid piling up LD's everywhere and being a hero, Caveat Emptor. Move around, drink slowly, grab some butt and check the goods on offer. On the street, some of the Massage Girls can be a surprise find and good value. Be nice and reward good service, and do not for bad.
More when I get there.
FictionalSpace
06-14-16, 06:01
Has anyone used AirBnB in Makati / Manila? There are some great looking places (in the Gramercy for example), but I'm concerned about the building's security having an issue with guests. If possible I prefer to stay in an apartment style place where I can have more privacy than a hotel.
Anyone have any experience with this?
MrWoolyBooly
06-15-16, 02:46
Has anyone used AirBnB in Makati / Manila? There are some great looking places (in the Gramercy for example), but I'm concerned about the building's security having an issue with guests. If possible I prefer to stay in an apartment style place where I can have more privacy than a hotel.
Anyone have any experience with this?Gramercy has decent security. Just be sure your guests bring ID. Security may gossip behind your back, but they really don't care about choice of bedmate. PM me if you have any more specific questions.
Johnny Five
06-15-16, 03:03
Has anyone used AirBnB in Makati / Manila? There are some great looking places (in the Gramercy for example), but I'm concerned about the building's security having an issue with guests. If possible I prefer to stay in an apartment style place where I can have more privacy than a hotel.
Anyone have any experience with this?I used AirBnB and stayed at Knightsbridge (right next to Gramercy) for a little over a month earlier this year. Great building with many amenities just like Gramercy, but there is a bit of construction going on around the entire area. When I was looking for a place to stay I would specifically ask every potential host on AirBnB their overnight guest policy. Some did not allow it, but most were cool. Once there, I made small talk with most of the security and front desk staff and never had a problem bringing in women my entire stay. Sometimes security checked their ID, sometimes they did not. Although, looking back, it's probably better to have them check all ID's IMHO. I've gone the hotel route and the AirBnB route and personally I like the AirBnB route better. It saved me a bunch of pesos that were better used on other things.
Good luck!
Pinaypounder
06-15-16, 08:44
Has anyone used AirBnB in Makati / Manila? There are some great looking places (in the Gramercy for example), but I'm concerned about the building's security having an issue with guests. If possible I prefer to stay in an apartment style place where I can have more privacy than a hotel.
Anyone have any experience with this?Found the security to be overbearing even to the point where I could only sit in certain places outside of the building.
Room was OK though, pool was cool.
We had visitors no problems. Would not stay again because of the security.
PP.
FictionalSpace
06-16-16, 10:24
Thanks for all the feedback on AirBnB and Gramercy. Sounds like it should be fine as a base of operations.
I'm using airbnb more and tried looking for something close to Burgos St (for Sept trip) but did not see anything w / in a couple of blocks.
I ended up booking at St Giles which is right on top of Burgos, Agoda asking price for standard rm $58 w / 22% tax comes out to be $72.
I don't think you can beat the price and convenience of a decent hotel that close to Burgos St.
Airbnb came in handy (better cost and quality than similar hotels) in Pattaya, Hua Hin, in BKK it was so so.
I don't like the Airbnb options in Makati. Anyone know of decent hotels close to Burgos St that are.
A better value than St Giles, swimming pool necessary.
Thanks.
Ms Account
06-19-16, 01:53
Anyone know of decent hotels close to Burgos St that are better value than St Giles, swimming pool necessary. St Giles and City Garden are very similar price and quality. But I just find them quite cramped small rooms and the lift waiting times in both can be frustrating. Both I usually see quoted around 3200-4000 pesos. City Garden Grand across the road from St Giles and City Garden is a little bit more expensive 4000-4500 but newer hotel, less stressful wait on the lifts and much bigger rooms. Worth the extra 800 pesos.
Wicked Roger
06-19-16, 08:05
I'm using airbnb more and tried looking for something close to Burgos St (for Sept trip) but did not see anything w / in a couple of blocks.
I ended up booking at St Giles which is right on top of Burgos, Agoda asking price for standard rm $58 w / 22% tax comes out to be $72.
I don't think you can beat the price and convenience of a decent hotel that close to Burgos St.
Airbnb came in handy (better cost and quality than similar hotels) in Pattaya, Hua Hin, in BKK it was so so.
I don't like the Airbnb options in Makati. Anyone know of decent hotels close to Burgos St that are.
A better value than St Giles, swimming pool necessary.
Thanks.I like the St Giles Socker but Ms Account has a point on the lifts sometimes. I get the bigger rooms at the St Giles as the smaller can be cramped but f staying a day I don't care, if much longer I do care.
Sometimes if a 10 HR lay over and am in transit so to speak I stay at the Red Planet and have a few cuties visit me.
I'm using airbnb more and tried looking for something close to Burgos St (for Sept trip) but did not see anything w / in a couple of blocks.
I ended up booking at St Giles which is right on top of Burgos, Agoda asking price for standard rm $58 w / 22% tax comes out to be $72.
I don't think you can beat the price and convenience of a decent hotel that close to Burgos St.
Airbnb came in handy (better cost and quality than similar hotels) in Pattaya, Hua Hin, in BKK it was so so.
I don't like the Airbnb options in Makati. Anyone know of decent hotels close to Burgos St that are.
A better value than St Giles, swimming pool necessary.
Thanks.I guess it depends on what you are looking for. I don't like the Burgos bars and tend to have a few regulars, so prefer AirBnB options next to Greenbelt. Good privacy and no coworkers in the same place. I've done my own searching near the bars, and I would tend to agree with you. For I was interested in that area, a good discount hotel booking might be the best option.
I'm using airbnb more and tried looking for something close to Burgos St (for Sept trip) but did not see anything w / in a couple of blocks.
Nothing at Gramercy? Have you checked airbnb for Rockwell? Airbnb has a nice feature with its map. For example, let assume you search for "makati, gramercy"; on the right side of the listings is the map that you can move around in and other available listings will appear.
Grammercy is one of the few quality AirBNB condos around with a lively restaurant bar on 71st Floor. Be there at the right time and you can find yourself a lady friend, if not for that evening then the next night as these non-pros girls tend to party in groups, looking out for each other. The Best Western (next door) broadband was [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor and the 'suite' was tiny. City Garden Grand Hotel is OK, nice pool on rooftop but again the lift can be frustrating. I had no issues with 'guests' visiting me, either alone or with me.
The condos directly on Burgos are to be avoided, been there forever, common areas suck, but if that's your bag to only sleep there, go for it.
Aruga Rockwell is fantastic with a great, under utilized large pool, direct underground passage to Powerstation Mall, good comp breakfast and WIFI, can book with hotel directly. One Rockwell also good, just a short drive from Burgos. All Aruga rooms have kitchens, including the suites.
Blanquiceleste
06-25-16, 16:12
Grammercy is one of the few quality AirBNB condos around with a lively restaurant bar on 71st Floor.
The condos directly on Burgos are to be avoided, been there forever, common areas suck, but if that's your bag to only sleep there, go for it.
Aruga Rockwell is fantastic with a great, under utilized large pool, direct underground passage to Powerstation Mall, good comp breakfast and WIFI, can book with hotel directly.
One Rockwell also good, just a short drive from Burgos. All Aruga rooms have kitchens, including the suites.Do the AirBNB options allow smoking inside the rooms? Or do they have a balcony for this purpose? My sole reason for staying in hotel rooms (as opposed to AirBNB) is the (non) smoking thing.
FictionalSpace
06-25-16, 16:40
Do the AirBNB options allow smoking inside the rooms? Or do they have a balcony for this purpose? My sole reason for staying in hotel rooms (as opposed to AirBNB) is the (non) smoking thing.Most seem not to, but many places have balconies that you can smoke on. Read the posting carefully and if you're unsure, send a message and ask. This is a common inquiry at AirBnBs all over the world.
CallSign Papa
06-25-16, 16:42
Do the AirBNB options allow smoking inside the rooms? Or do they have a balcony for this purpose? My sole reason for staying in hotel rooms (as opposed to AirBNB) is the (non) smoking thing.All of the condos I've rented in Poblacion (Makati) and Rockwell have had balconies, I don't smoke but some of the girls who've been over have, no issues.
I guess it depends on what you are looking for. I don't like the Burgos bars and tend to have a few regulars, so prefer AirBnB options next to Greenbelt. Good privacy and no coworkers in the same place. I've done my own searching near the bars, and I would tend to agree with you. For I was interested in that area, a good discount hotel booking might be the best option.I did notice more options near Greenbelt but I am spoiled w / needing to be w / in an easy walk to the hotel from Burgos St. WR had a nice alternative w / Red Planet. I've seen it many times but never paid attention to it. No pool but it's right there, and inexpensive (thanks WR).
One of these days I will spend more time in Manila and explore more than just what Burgos has to offer but I do tend to do what works for me and Burgos works pretty good. I'll have to pry myself away.
I'll be back in Sept.
Thanks all.
Wicked Roger
06-26-16, 08:12
I did notice more options near Greenbelt but I am spoiled w / needing to be w / in an easy walk to the hotel from Burgos St. WR had a nice alternative w / Red Planet. I've seen it many times but never paid attention to it. No pool but it's right there, and inexpensive (thanks WR).
Thanks all.Pool is next Socker in Team Insider so is not far from your room. TI is the sport bar by the way attached to Red Planet.
Grammercy is one of the few quality AirBNB condos around with a lively restaurant bar on 71st Floor.
Just a head's up. The nightclub 71 Gramercy (a good one and quite famous) closed in Feb. The space is being transformed into a restaurant, a scotch bar, and a lounge. If one is looking for a nightclub in the immediate area there's Time, which is getting a bit long in the tooth, and Royal.
For those of you interested in clubbing in Makati, and not traveling to QC or the Fort, Chino Roces Ave (aka Pasong Tamo) is becoming the new clubbing area with Black Market, Apollo X, and the new XX XX (twenty twenty) opening. Not many hotels in the immediate area, but plenty of condos, so likely good airbnb selection. Still close enough to Burgos and Greenbelt / Havana, but the area is more affordable.
Do the AirBNB options allow smoking inside the rooms? Or do they have a balcony for this purpose? My sole reason for staying in hotel rooms (as opposed to AirBNB) is the (non) smoking thing.Last year I stayed at an AirBnB apartment in a complex called Seaview Residences in Pasay. There were a few apartments on AirBnB and I don't know about the others but mine did NOT have a balcony. A couple of years before that I stayed at one up in Manila proper which DID have one. Certainly something to ask about if it's not obvious from the pictures.
This particular complex (the Seaview) did check visitor ID for obvious working girls but some other female visitors I had (not SW) did not have their ID checked. Seeing the same guards and residents every day was a little embarrassing after the walk of shame the night before. Less of an issue for hotels and guests. Annoying thing for me was having to fill in a form every time I wanted to use the swimming pools. Five minute walk to Mall of Asia though, and the apartment had everything I wanted. Taxi drivers outside wanted stupid amounts of money though so I always walked to MoA to get one (avoiding peak mall times).
CallSign Papa
06-29-16, 18:58
For those of you interested in clubbing in Makati, and not traveling to QC or the Fort, Chino Roces Ave (aka Pasong Tamo) is becoming the new clubbing area with Black Market, Apollo X, and the new XX XX (twenty twenty) opening. Not many hotels in the immediate area, but plenty of condos, so likely good airbnb selection. Still close enough to Burgos and Greenbelt / Havana, but the area is more affordable.Good to know Huts, they're all small clubs or in the same mould as Chaos / Valk?
LukeSkywalker
07-04-16, 02:59
Are there new problems picking up girls for dates?
"As Rodrigo Duterte was sworn in as the Philippines' 16th president on Thursday (30 June 2016), he delivered a speech – one hand on the Bible – in which he promised a "relentless" and "sustained" fight against corruption, criminality and illegal drugs. He conceded that many believe his methods "are unorthodox and verge on the illegal" – however, he said he knew right from wrong and would abide by the rule of law. ".
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/jr-subbed-philippines-drug-dealers-found-dead-president-duterte-vows-wipe-out-crime-graphic-1568504
I am staying near MOA and am wondering if there is a decent non smoking club nearby with good old school music?
I am not looking to hook up but am taking a nice civie there tonight or tomorrow.
Are there new problems picking up girls for dates?
"As Rodrigo Duterte was sworn in as the Philippines' 16th president on Thursday (30 June 2016), he delivered a speech one hand on the Bible in which he promised a "relentless" and "sustained" fight against corruption, criminality and illegal drugs. He conceded that many believe his methods "are unorthodox and verge on the illegal" however, he said he knew right from wrong and would abide by the rule of law. ".
I think you are taking much too large a step to extrapolate from Du30's "war on drugs" to imagine it will be a problem to meet girls (or as you put it, "picking up girls for dates").
He has made it very difficult for smokers to exist comfortably in Davao, so it is likely he will extend his distaste for smoking to wider and tougher rules for smokers everywhere. Doesn't affect me as I have never ever smoked, but it might make life difficult for others.
FictionalSpace
07-04-16, 10:27
Anyone ever go clubbing alone? Next trip I want to try to pick up some freebies. I've had success at the malls and on dating sites / apps. I kind of want to venture out at night and see what the club scene is like, though I don't know anyone in Manila to go with, so I'd likely be alone. I'm okay with that usually, but has anyone here done it and have any thoughts on where to go, where to avoid, etc?
Anyone ever go clubbing alone? Next trip I want to try to pick up some freebies. I've had success at the malls and on dating sites / apps. I kind of want to venture out at night and see what the club scene is like, though I don't know anyone in Manila to go with, so I'd likely be alone. I'm okay with that usually, but has anyone here done it and have any thoughts on where to go, where to avoid, etc?A simple search would have yielded a thread started by Hutsori on the subject:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3646-Clubbing-in-Metro-Manila
FictionalSpace
07-05-16, 04:19
A simple search would have yielded a thread started by Hutsori on the subject:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3646-Clubbing-in-Metro-ManilaYeah, I saw that before I posted. The emphasis of my question was on the 'alone' part, which the post you linked didn't mention at all. It does provide a nice, if basic, introduction to clubs in Manila (and basically anywhere else in the world). Thanks for searching again for me, though.
Yeah, I saw that before I posted. The emphasis of my question was on the 'alone' part, which the post you linked didn't mention at all. ...............Not possible to be 'alone' in the Phils. Girls will make sure of that. Approaching guys sitting next to you at bars, no problem either. Myself, solo is so much better. No need for Wingmen, LOL.
Since you've been successful elsewhere, not sure why you are asking the question. BukoM may have thought the same thing, therefore the curt reply. I'm pretty sure he didn't "search again" for you. Nevertheless, you replied with a minimum of sarcasm. Well done.
Hutsori gave me enough info to use a highlighter on my Manila map. Going to check it out. I've reached my sell-by-date so I may not be the best person to answer this. I will anyway. If you're under 50, got game and know how to dance it should be fine.
Asians tend to be group oriented and that is, of course, part of the problem and part of the solution. (text book on Asian culture and psychology omitted) Being alone may raise eyebrows. Do you have a game plan? What do you say when asked, "Who are you here with?" (this is a rhetorical question but if you have a great reply that you want to keep secret, please send pm).
You need the contact info. A gal who is reluctant tonight, might wake you up early the next morning with a text. Get the contact info. How? Pass her a card discretely or just ask directly. Depends on the circumstances. Write a love letter on a napkin if you have to.
So, you jump a few hurtles and meet a gal that seems game and then you have the complication of actually figuring out if she is a regular gal or p4 p or naughty girl or just run of the mill curious girl, etc. (there are some obvious strategies to use here, but I've already written too much.
If you get lucky, and still don't know her motivation, find some excuse to give her money and some excuse if she doesn't accept the money. TwoK for taxi is too much. But that's because I want you to come here again.
For the record, I met an adorable, college educated gal at LA Cafe. We hit it off well. She said she came with a guy friend, but never saw the guy. He bailed out or she was lying? I don't know. She worked at a hotel travel desk and helped me get a discount at a hotel. She left me high and dry that night, but made up for it at the hotel she booked for me. It's more fun in the Philippines!
Yeah, I saw that before I posted. The emphasis of my question was on the 'alone' part, which the post you linked didn't mention at all. It does provide a nice, if basic, introduction to clubs in Manila (and basically anywhere else in the world). Thanks for searching again for me, though.
FictionalSpace
07-05-16, 10:51
Since you've been successful elsewhere, not sure why you are asking the question. BukoM may have thought the same thing, therefore the curt reply. I'm pretty sure he didn't "search again" for you. Nevertheless, you replied with a minimum of sarcasm. Well done.
Hutsori gave me enough info to use a highlighter on my Manila map. Going to check it out. I've reached my sell-by-date so I may not be the best person to answer this. I will anyway. If you're under 50, got game and know how to dance it should be fine.
Asians tend to be group oriented and that is, of course, part of the problem and part of the solution. (text book on Asian culture and psychology omitted) Being alone may raise eyebrows. Do you have a game plan? What do you say when asked, "Who are you here with?" (this is a rhetorical question but if you have a great reply that you want to keep secret, please send pm).
You need the contact info. A gal who is reluctant tonight, might wake you up early the next morning with a text. Get the contact info. How? Pass her a card discretely or just ask directly. Depends on the circumstances. Write a love letter on a napkin if you have to.
So, you jump a few hurtles and meet a gal that seems game and then you have the complication of actually figuring out if she is a regular gal or p4 p or naughty girl or just run of the mill curious girl, etc. (there are some obvious strategies to use here, but I've already written too much.
If you get lucky, and still don't know her motivation, find some excuse to give her money and some excuse if she doesn't accept the money. TwoK for taxi is too much. But that's because I want you to come here again.
For the record, I met an adorable, college educated gal at LA Cafe. We hit it off well. She said she came with a guy friend, but never saw the guy. He bailed out or she was lying? I don't know. She worked at a hotel travel desk and helped me get a discount at a hotel. She left me high and dry that night, but made up for it at the hotel she booked for me. It's more fun in the Philippines!Fair enough. Sarcasm wasn't necessary. I don't think I posed my question well enough to get the information I was seeking, so apologies for a snarky response. Apologies to BukoM.
In general, I know how the game works in clubs and elsewhere that are generally non-P4 P venues. I was actually wondering if anyone had any specific clubs in mind that might be better (or worse) for a solo night out, whether from the perspective of logistics, safety, cost, friendliness of staff, layout of the venue, etc. Without a great deal of time to explore the club scene, I was seeking any specific feedback. Maybe there isn't any good answer to that, which is fine. Just putting out a feeler.
Yeah, I saw that before I posted. The emphasis of my question was on the 'alone' part, which the post you linked didn't mention at all. It does provide a nice, if basic, introduction to clubs in Manila (and basically anywhere else in the world). Thanks for searching again for me, though.Yours is a good question because I failed to mention the solo clubber in my report. My goof. I agree the FR is basic, deliberately so, discussing overarching themes because the clubbing scene is dynamic. Clubs rise and fall. Thursday was great but Saturday at the same place was mediocre. Toss in the arrival of popular DJs, promotions, etc. And as I wrote, once a top-tier place gets a reputation as a club appealing to older foreigners and working girls, clubbing's top influencers move on. But if chasing after the elite of Manila society has no appeal, then this shouldn't matter too much until the club no longer attracts anyone. There's a lot of intersectionality at play.
Going alone? The short answer is yes. But with qualifications and caveats. Since you already read my previous post I won't regurgitate that info.
Picking up regular girls: you're as only as good as your game. If you do well at clubs in your homeland and elsewhere you'll do very well here. The good thing about clubbing here is you get bonus points for being a foreigner, accruing more for being genuinely attractive, younger, and / or tall.
Clubs in the areas where foreigners congregate attract the solo foreign club goer, so your arrival sans partner won't be seen as uncommon. One of the first things to suss out is whether to get your own table, wander around with a drink in your hand, or try to befriend a group of Filipinos and join their table. Filipinos typically to do things in groups, and even the working girls tend to come and go in a small group. Working girls are easy to separate and deal with one-on-one, but generally they'll take the opportunity to include their friends with you so you pick up the tab for everyone. Regular girls are found in two groups; those who are with guys, and those who are with other females only. Tread carefully with the mixed group so you don't step on some bloke's toes. I've partied several times with mixed groups without major problem, but I've had a few try to stick me with the entire bill. Clubs' consumable table charges make dealing with this tricky, but I always buy a bottle and mixers to share (making sure to sign my own bill) and then contribute a portion to the overall bill as my seat charge. If you arrive at a BGC club with a few Italian super cars parked in front don't be surprised to see fellas running up huge tabs. If you decide to party with a table of women, they're going assume you'll pick up the tab.
Because I'm lazy and privileged, when clubbing I prefer to take a dating site girl I've already established rapport and exchanged bodily fluids. During the night when I get looks from others I'll get their numbers for the future.
I didn't know you could buy a bottle. Do they have a bottle keep if you don't finish it? That's an interesting alternative. I prefer beer when out and about because I better know when I'm approaching certain limits.
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I didn't know you could buy a bottle. Do they have a bottle keep if you don't finish it? That's an interesting alternative. I prefer beer when out and about because I better know when I'm approaching certain limits.The beauty of it is you don't need to keep calling over a waiter to take your next order. I've yet to encounter a club that won't hold a bottle for you, and this even includes LA Cafe and the Cowboy Grill. Always ask first, though. Keep in mind that where consumable charges are levied for a table you'll be subject to that charge the next time you visit, which means you may build a little collection. In my experience I've had a few clubs I frequently patronise waive it on less busy nights. I tend to go clubbing where the table charges aren't too high, say p2000 vice p10,000. A bottle of Absolut, Captain Morgan, Johnny Walker Red, and Jack Daniels is usually between p2000-p4000, but the prices skyrocket for Cristal champagne at p40,000 and Dalmore 25 years at p100,000 - the club will validate your Ferrari's parking when you order the Dalmore, so you're saving money there. (Another good deal is pitchers of cocktails, such as margaritas, but that's more commonly available at live music places than night clubs.) I'm not a palutan eater, but if you're with some Filipinos it's kind of expected, and that's p300-p1200.
The best bottle & mixer deal at clubs is Captain Morgan Spiced Rum and cola. That spiced rum complements cola nicely, and the girls will drink it without complaint. Sometimes the lower-end clubs fuck up by forgetting to order limes. By bringing a girl with you clubbing, you can task her with carrying a few limes in her purse, and also Heinz 57 packets because banana ketchup is horrible.
Greetings everyone!
I am planning a trip to Manila this coming August.
I'll be going through the different options (La Cafe area, KTV / spas, dating sites, escort sites) and writing a report on each one when I get back.
I was RTFF and was wondering if there are any current info on things, specifically the escort sites like manilacourtesans.com. Anybody have experience using sites like those recently and any tips for successful mongering in all the other places.
Thanks in advance!
BrainDrain
07-09-16, 09:14
I was RTFF and was wondering if there are any current info on things, specifically the escort sites like manilacourtesans.com. Anybody have experience using sites like those recently and any tips for successful mongering in all the other places.
!Just install wechat and sit back and enjoy. Or, open up a free Tagged account and enjoy.
I've never used any escort site in Ph. There is no need.
I'll be in AC in August if you are up that way.
Fair enough. Sarcasm wasn't necessary. I don't think I posed my question well enough to get the information I was seeking, so apologies for a snarky response. Apologies to BukoM.
In general, I know how the game works in clubs and elsewhere that are generally non-P4 P venues. I was actually wondering if anyone had any specific clubs in mind that might be better (or worse) for a solo night out, whether from the perspective of logistics, safety, cost, friendliness of staff, layout of the venue, etc. Without a great deal of time to explore the club scene, I was seeking any specific feedback. Maybe there isn't any good answer to that, which is fine. Just putting out a feeler.I hope you might know this club. I went to LA cafe last Saturday night left about 3 am got a taxi drove about 5 minutes to this club the music was load a big dance floor in the middle of the club the club was busy mixed crowd working girls having a drink after work any idea what the club called. I think the name started CH any ideas? I was pissed like to go back there.
Thank you.
CallSign Papa
07-11-16, 16:02
I was actually wondering if anyone had any specific clubs in mind that might be better (or worse) for a solo night out When in Manila I regularly go clubbing solo. Generally my rule of thumb is, the busier the bar the better. Go to Chaos or Valkyrie when they have a big party on and it's not going to be easy to pick off a few strays from the herd (especially as the night gets later). If you go to a smaller club (like Prive) you're more likely to stick out if you're solo.
My general MO is stand by the bar, order a few drinks, buy the bartender a few (so you get served quickly as the bar gets busier). Generally the girls will come to you, and if the bar is busy you can be "gentlemanly" by moving out of the way and give yourself a chance at a conversation. Of course, a lot of girls will be in groups in and around the tables, so you may want to take the occasional wander.
Valkyrie / Revel in Bonifacio Global City are your best bet, the demographic is 20's and on a Friday / Saturday is generally always packed. Palace Pool Club is part of the same complex but is hit and miss. Raven is not a bad size but the music is always so damn loud it's virtually impossible to talk over it to talk to anyone. As I mentioned, Prive is smaller but if busy is generally a pretty good hunting ground. Chaos at City of Dreams is a great hangout if busy, and an utter waste of a journey if empty (hard to predict which will be which).
I'm back next week and interested to check out some of the newer smaller clubs in Makati.
Cowboy Grill?
I hope you might know this club. I went to LA cafe last Saturday night left about 3 am got a taxi drove about 5 minutes to this club the music was load a big dance floor in the middle of the club the club was busy mixed crowd working girls having a drink after work any idea what the club called. I think the name started CH any ideas? I was pissed like to go back there.
Thank you..
Member #4566
07-12-16, 03:40
I hope you might know this club. I went to LA cafe last Saturday night left about 3 am got a taxi drove about 5 minutes to this club the music was load a big dance floor in the middle of the club the club was busy mixed crowd working girls having a drink after work any idea what the club called. I think the name started CH any ideas? I was pissed like to go back there.
Thank you.At one time I went to a place that had a ton of FL's called Manila Rendezvous. It has a hidden entrance on the north side of Padre Faura St between Mabini and Del Pilar. The place was large, had a band, an seemed to cater to Taiwanese types. I always got lucky there. It has been maybe 10 yrs since I was there and maybe the name has changed.
I was RTFF and was wondering if there are any current info on things, specifically the escort sites like manilacourtesans.com. Anybody have experience using sites like those recently and any tips for successful mongering in all the other places.Be careful with the Escort Sites, most of these are scams bait & switch. Service is expensive and quality of service at the lower end of the scale. I tried against my better judgement. You can read about it in one of my earlier posts.
I hope you might know this club. I went to LA cafe last Saturday night left about 3 am got a taxi drove about 5 minutes to this club the music was load a big dance floor in the middle of the club the club was busy mixed crowd working girls having a drink after work any idea what the club called. I think the name started CH any ideas? I was pissed like to go back there.
Thank you.About 5 minutes from LA are the nightclubs Exclusiv and Zzyzx. There are two Cowboy Grills (Malate & Remedios) and one Padi's Point (Remedios). In the area of Maria Orosa and Nakpil streets there are several small and mid-sized KTV hostess-type places, but those usually close at 3 am. There are also a few gay dance clubs that can get a mixed crowd. Perhaps Chelu Bar? In the same area is Bocobo St; just before the street ends at Robinson's Mall there's a entertainment complex called Bellagio Square that has a few bars and a club, IIRC. You didn't mention being near Manila Bay (the water, not the club) but there's another entertainment complex called Harbor Square near the Cultural Complex of the Philippines (CCP). I don't recall seeing nightclubs there, but it's been a while. At the City of Dreams is the Chaos Nightclub, but that's a bit longer drive.
About 5 minutes from LA are the nightclubs Exclusiv and Zzyzx. There are two Cowboy Grills (Malate & Remedios) and one Padi's Point (Remedios). In the area of Maria Orosa and Nakpil streets there are several small and mid-sized KTV hostess-type places, but those usually close at 3 am. There are also a few gay dance clubs that can get a mixed crowd. Perhaps Chelu Bar? In the same area is Bocobo St; just before the street ends at Robinson's Mall there's a entertainment complex called Bellagio Square that has a few bars and a club, IIRC. You didn't mention being near Manila Bay (the water, not the club) but there's another entertainment complex called Harbor Square near the Cultural Complex of the Philippines (CCP). I don't recall seeing nightclubs there, but it's been a while. At the City of Dreams is the Chaos Nightclub, but that's a bit longer drive.Thank you for your help When. I Left the club it was day light and the club was still pumping. The sign on the club was in large cut out letters bolted on the wall its was about 6 meters long about 10 meter off the ground I had a good look at the sign I said to myself I need to remember this club but I had to many beers. Ha Ha I going and check out Exclusiv next week this could be the one. Thank you.
Thank you for your help When. I Left the club it was day light and the club was still pumping. The sign on the club was in large cut out letters bolted on the wall its was about 6 meters long about 10 meter off the ground I had a good look at the sign I said to myself I need to remember this club but I had to many beers. Ha Ha I going and check out Exclusiv next week this could be the one. Thank you.You're welcome. At daylight this is the sign; at night it's illuminated white. When you exited the club, on your left you would have seen Remedios Circle (a small green space) and Cafe Adriatico. A lot of Korean restaurants and KTV / hostess clubs in the area. There's also Zzzyx, Cowboy Grill for decent bands, and Bellagio Square is a short walk away. Across the street from Cowboy Grill a lot of restobars put plastic tables and chairs in the street at night; a good way to enjoy a few drinks and check out all the girls walking around. The Remedios Circle area is great place to spend a night.
You're welcome. At daylight this is the sign; at night it's illuminated white. When you exited the club, on your left you would have seen Remedios Circle (a small green space) and Cafe Adriatico. A lot of Korean restaurants and KTV / hostess clubs in the area. There's also Zzzyx, Cowboy Grill for decent bands, and Bellagio Square is a short walk away. Across the street from Cowboy Grill a lot of restobars put plastic tables and chairs in the street at night; a good way to enjoy a few drinks and check out all the girls walking around. The Remedios Circle area is great place to spend a night.Great information Huts.
I drove along Adriatico today and I noticed that on the Adriatico / Remedios corner the old Cafe Havana venue (the original) has opened as a reincarnation entitled "Ole".
I noticed it seemed very similar (from the outside anyway) to the original Havana and I wonder if it is styled in the same way. It is not yet listed on Google or Trip Advisor. I haven't checked further yet.
This area was my favorite hang-out between 1996 and 2001 when I first started living in Manila and I loved the old Cafe Havana before it closed and moved to Greenbelt.
Given the other spots you identified in your post Huts, perhaps this area is about to become (or has already become) a new night-life central?
Any intel on Ole please?
Given the other spots you identified in your post Huts, perhaps this area is about to become (or has already become) a new night-life central?
Any intel on Ole please?Thanks, Red. Can't tell you about Ole; I don't dine out too often (the traffic!), and when I do it's usually Korean, Thai, or Indian. I've dined at Adriatico twice, and all I remember of it is the Sans Rival cake, a fantastic Filipino dessert. The Remedios Circle area has been my main stomping ground for a few years now, and I don't hit ground until 11 pm or so and then party to 5-6 am. If I started early I'd be shattered. Once in while I visit LA Cafe, Burgos, etc. with out-of-town visitors, but I've found my hapenis with dating site girls and then hitting the clubs / live music venues with them. Some girls are wary of going to the area because of perceived danger or their own snobbery. Also in the area is the Library, the trans comedy club, which kind of fun if you have a high tolerance for being embarrassed. But when the comedians decide to do karaoke for a few hours it becomes oppressively boring.
Land NAIA late night but want to get bus to Batangas Pier next day.
Anyone know of decent hotel close to (walk distance) Jam Liner Buendia Terminal Pasay?
Or another option to fit criteria?
Land NAIA late night but want to get bus to Batangas Pier next day.
Anyone know of decent hotel close to (walk distance) Jam Liner Buendia Terminal Pasay?
Or another option to fit criteria?Alternative #1: Stay at City State Tower on Mabini Street in Ermita, and you can get a ticket to Batangas Pier in the lobby in the morning. Walk across the street, and bus leaves at 8:00 a.m. Room is about 2,500 php and round trip bus ticket is about 700.
Alternative #2: Stay at Grand Prix Hotel next door to City State at about 1,500 a night. Walk next door in the morning, grab bus ticket and walk across the street to the bus. Economy room is small, but it has air con, TV and large CR.
Both places have free breakfasts, but they're not so good. Both places are around the corner from G Point Bar and next door to Dakota Cabin for good eats.
Enjoy your trip.
Ms Account
07-18-16, 10:41
Was travelling from Cebu to Manila today. 2 hours 45 minutes late including 1 HR+ circling manila so was the worst flight I have ever had. Exit Terminal 3 and lo and behold they have reintroduced white taxis!! Right opposite the yellow taxi line is a new white taxi line. Very poorly designed, you actually have to walk through the line of taxis to get to the queue. Western airports would not allow that for the risk of people getting run over. The people in the queue snaking out back into the line of taxis itself. There was still a yellow taxi queue of about 30 metres but it was fast because yellow taxis banked up waiting to pick up. Talking to the despondent yellow taxi driver. They have reintroduced white taxis to T3 and T4 today (Monday). Tomorrow is T1 and T2. Apparently it was announced on TV and radio last week. Appears Duterte demanded that the airport reintroduce white taxis. WOW! The yellow taxi driver was saying he needs 4000 pesos to break even per day (he pays 1650 per day for the car). As of 5 pm he had made 440 pesos. He said it would give it one more day and then he would stop because he was losing money. I gave him 500 for a 200 meter fare. The problem now is I don't think any of the terminals have enough space to manage three separate queues (fixed rate, yellow and white). The white queue is not viable. It is too small and dangerous.
But Wow!! No more 45 minutes wait for a yellow taxi. Duterte is in my good books.
BrainDrain
07-18-16, 11:56
Was travelling from Cebu to Manila today. 2 hours 45 minutes late including 1 HR+ circling manila so was the worst flight I have ever had. Exit Terminal 3 and lo and behold they have reintroduced white taxis!! Right opposite the yellow taxi line is a new white taxi line. Very poorly designed, you actually have to walk through the line of taxis to get to the queue. Western airports would not allow that for the risk of people getting run over. The people in the queue snaking out back into the line of taxis itself. There was still a yellow taxi queue of about 30 metres but it was fast because yellow taxis banked up waiting to pick up. Talking to the despondent yellow taxi driver. They have reintroduced white taxis to T3 and T4 today (Monday). Tomorrow is T1 and T2. Apparently it was announced on TV and radio last week. Appears Duterte demanded that the airport reintroduce white taxis. WOW! The yellow taxi driver was saying he needs 4000 pesos to break even per day (he pays 1650 per day for the car). As of 5 pm he had made 440 pesos. He said it would give it one more day and then he would stop because he was losing money. I gave him 500 for a 200 meter fare. The problem now is I don't think any of the terminals have enough space to manage three separate queues (fixed rate, yellow and white). The white queue is not viable. It is too small and dangerous.
But Wow!! No more 45 minutes wait for a yellow taxi. Duterte is in my good books.So another cartel is broken. The poor guy was being rorted by the system. More competition, more cabs will come and the fixed price operators are the ones whom really need to go. They are the ones overcharging. No that we know it's not a two hour wait for a cab, hopefully the fixed price people will depart along with their clipboard of ridiculous prices. Meaning more business for the yellow drivers.
Ms Account
07-18-16, 12:09
No that we know it's not a two hour wait for a cab, hopefully the fixed price people will depart along with their clipboard of ridiculous prices. Meaning more business for the yellow drivers.I think the fixed price can rely on preying on the newbies exiting the terminal who know no different. The yellow driver said he was talking to his boss who thought yellow could not survive. But in Cebu yellow seems to survive along side white.
They have reintroduced white taxis to T3 and T4 today (Monday). Tomorrow is T1 and T2. Apparently it was announced on TV and radio last week. If you had read the General Info thread yesterday you would have seen my post 10200.
Both yellow and white metered cabs will easily co-exist, the same way that the white coupon taxis and yellow taxis have for the past 3 or 4 years.
I like to have the option of the 3 types. I have no problem paying 200-300 extra PHP if it means I get to avoid waiting in line for 15-30 mins or even more.
The yellow cabs were introduced to create an element of control because there was a rather sudden increase 5 or 6 years ago of crooked white metered taxis actually robbing returning OFWs and tourists of all of their baggage. The cab would pull off into a side road; a van with accomplices would pull alongside with guns etc; all the bags would be offloaded into the van, and away they would go with the loot.
I hope it doesn't start up again because it became almost a regular occurrence and it scared many OFWs into refusing to take taxis with all of their belongings.
The yellow cabs were introduced to create an element of control because there was a rather sudden increase 5 or 6 years ago of crooked white metered taxis actually robbing returning OFWs and tourists of all of their baggage. The cab would pull off into a side road; a van with accomplices would pull alongside with guns etc; all the bags would be offloaded into the van, and away they would go with the loot.
I hope it doesn't start up again because it became almost a regular occurrence and it scared many OFWs into refusing to take taxis with all of their belongings.Great recall, Red. Fortunately I never experienced that, but I remember the news reports. Some victims were stripped of everything and left naked beside the road. What a way to start one's holiday after being separated from loved ones for a long time.
Alternative #1: Stay at City State Tower on Mabini Street in Ermita, and you can get a ticket to Batangas Pier in the lobby in the morning. Walk across the street, and bus leaves at 8:00 a.m. Room is about 2,500 php and round trip bus ticket is about 700.
Alternative #2: Stay at Grand Prix Hotel next door to City State at about 1,500 a night. Walk next door in the morning, grab bus ticket and walk across the street to the bus. Economy room is small, but it has air con, TV and large CR.
Both places have free breakfasts, but they're not so good. Both places are around the corner from G Point Bar and next door to Dakota Cabin for good eats.
Enjoy your trip.Hi thanks for your info.
When you say "walk across the street to the bus. " Do you mean it's just a bus stop or is there a terminal there.
Tried to look on google maps street view but couldn't work it out.
Prefer to know exactly where to go. Sorry to be pedantic.
So another cartel is broken. The poor guy was being rorted by the system. More competition, more cabs will come and the fixed price operators are the ones whom really need to go. They are the ones overcharging. No that we know it's not a two hour wait for a cab, hopefully the fixed price people will depart along with their clipboard of ridiculous prices. Meaning more business for the yellow drivers.About 3 months ago I landed in T3 and have just missed the shuttle to Resort World. It would be another 30 minutes. The touts were quoting 600-2000 for a private taxi ride to MOA area!
I thought I would go stray out to the parking area and see if I could get to the road to hail a taxi. As I got into the parking lot the drivers in the "private taxis" were dropping their prices. Finally one guy quoted 400. He had a nice car similar to a Lincoln Town Car. Driver spoke excellent English and I was giving him a bad time about the private taxis. He called themselves "shadow taxis" because they operate in the shadow. The shadow existed only because of the long lines for regular taxis. He acknowledged that shadow taxis would be history once more taxis were available.
The new President is solving the airport problems quickly. The bullet scam is finished. By Dutere's orders, the airport will just confiscate any amulet bullets and send the passenger on their way.
I am glad he is solving the taxi problems. It was a disgrace.
Just install wechat and sit back and enjoy. Or, open up a free Tagged account and enjoy.
I've never used any escort site in Ph. There is no need.
I'll be in AC in August if you are up that way.Thanks BD! Sorry won't be heading to AC. But I might just change my mind once I reach the Philippines.
So one of my goals for my trip to Manila would be to take multiple girls back to my hotel room (I'm sure that I am not the only person who shares this goal). I'm not talking about just 2 girls but 3+. Just want to try and experience that in life. Any pros out there who have experienced this willing to share their experience and how to achieve this goal? Any problems with the hotels and you bringing more than one "guest". I understand that one guest is OK but would they deny the other girls?
Thanks in advance!
Major stuff-up at NAIA on Monday.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/574162/money/economy/five-inch-deep-nine-meter-long-damage-caused-naia-runway-closure-dotr
http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/19/16/transport-chief-blames-lack-of-asphalt-overlay-for-runway-mess
Thanks BD! Sorry won't be heading to AC. But I might just change my mind once I reach the Philippines.
So one of my goals for my trip to Manila would be to take multiple girls back to my hotel room (I'm sure that I am not the only person who shares this goal). I'm not talking about just 2 girls but 3+. Just want to try and experience that in life. Any pros out there who have experienced this willing to share their experience and how to achieve this goal? Any problems with the hotels and you bringing more than one "guest". I understand that one guest is OK but would they deny the other girls?
Thanks in advance!I've done a few doubles in Makati but never a triple (my dream too) w / FLs on Burgos. I feel like I'm just an inch short for 3 way BJ action but you could have double duty on Rudy while the 3rd is busy on another body part.
I always stay at St Giles and I think I could bring 3 in there no problem. Three will be tricky to handle so you'll need to have the right 3 ladies. It should be easy to find them on Burgos St, the cost would be around 2 k each if they are hot and there are some hot FLs on Burgos.
Good luck w / that!
So one of my goals for my trip to Manila would be to take multiple girls back to my hotel room (I'm sure that I am not the only person who shares this goal). I'm not talking about just 2 girls but 3+. Just want to try and experience that in life. Any pros out there who have experienced this willing to share their experience and how to achieve this goal?
The most important thing is to discuss what your specific expectations are before bringing them back. Do you expect the 3 to be in bed with you, or is it OK for 2 or them to sit in the toilet and wait their turn? Do you expect them to play with each other as well as you? If you expect them to play with each other, is merely kissing and breast caressing acceptable, or do you want to see cunnilingus performed, strap-ons, and scissoring?
Wicked Roger
07-19-16, 22:59
Major stuff-up at NAIA on Monday.
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/574162/money/economy/five-inch-deep-nine-meter-long-damage-caused-naia-runway-closure-dotr
http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/07/19/16/transport-chief-blames-lack-of-asphalt-overlay-for-runway-messAnother great tourism advert for the country and shows that comments posted here earlier about the lack of investment into the airport are now becoming more evident IMHO. The lack of maintenance is very worrying. Friend was caught in the debacle and going to Clark is not a viable option unless there is proper infrastructure between it and Manila.
As a result some politicians are again pushing for Clark to be the main airport (vested interests are of course not involved in this LOL).
The most important thing is to discuss what your specific expectations are before bringing them back. Do you expect the 3 to be in bed with you, or is it OK for 2 or them to sit in the toilet and wait their turn? Do you expect them to play with each other as well as you? If you expect them to play with each other, is merely kissing and breast caressing acceptable, or do you want to see cunnilingus performed, strap-ons, and scissoring?Thanks Hutsori. I haven't thought about those parts yet because I wanted to find out if its highly possible (with the girls and hotel being OK with it). But I am definitely hoping for having all of them in bed at the same time and the breaking off into groups would probably be plan be. So I guess I definitely need to discuss it with them beforehand. Hope they are OK with each other. Can't wait for this trip!
I've done a few doubles in Makati but never a triple (my dream too) w / FLs on Burgos. I feel like I'm just an inch short for 3 way BJ action but you could have double duty on Rudy while the 3rd is busy on another body part.
I always stay at St Giles and I think I could bring 3 in there no problem. Three will be tricky to handle so you'll need to have the right 3 ladies. It should be easy to find them on Burgos St, the cost would be around 2 k each if they are hot and there are some hot FLs on Burgos.
Good luck w / that!Thanks for the recommendations Socker, I will try St Giles for a night or two depending on how the first night goes. But did you have any problems with the hotel when you bang the 2nd girl? How close is the hotel from the good "spots". Hopefully I can find some hot ones so I can post the pictures in the PG section.
GoodEnough
07-20-16, 05:55
Another great tourism advert for the country and shows that comments posted here earlier about the lack of investment into the airport are now becoming more evident IMHO. The lack of maintenance is very worrying. Friend was caught in the debacle and going to Clark is not a viable option unless there is proper infrastructure between it and Manila.
As a result some politicians are again pushing for Clark to be the main airport (vested interests are of course not involved in this LOL).As anyone who has lived here for a while knows, the general philosophy about maintenance is: "Wait until it breaks, then act surprised, then throw in the cheapest possible fix and repeat the process when it breaks again. " This applies to all phases of life here from roads to power plants. Hopefully the new administration will do things a bit differently.
Clark would be an easy out but probably isn't a viable alternative given its dilapidated terminals, the likelihood that its ground equipment hasn't been upgraded since the US left and the lack of a reliable transport link to Manila. The only workable alternative is building a new airport and allowing the private sector to design, build and operate it.
GE.
It was a hot, muggy day in East Asia. Thanks GE for lowering the temperature. As I read you post, I couldn't help but think, "that really would be a cold day in hell".
SNIP The only workable alternative is building a new airport and allowing the private sector to design, build and operate it.
GE.
Wicked Roger
07-21-16, 00:16
As anyone who has lived here for a while knows, the general philosophy about maintenance is: "Wait until it breaks, then act surprised, then throw in the cheapest possible fix and repeat the process when it breaks again. " This applies to all phases of life here from roads to power plants. Hopefully the new administration will do things a bit differently.
Clark would be an easy out but probably isn't a viable alternative given its dilapidated terminals, the likelihood that its ground equipment hasn't been upgraded since the US left and the lack of a reliable transport link to Manila. The only workable alternative is building a new airport and allowing the private sector to design, build and operate it.
GE.The new airport was suggested during the last 6 years of PNoy (PAL and SM I think proposed it) but as you noted earlier, this idea fell flat fro a number of reason one likely being people wanting to dip their hand into to the pot of a private investment that the investors did not want. Always politics etc gets involved to mess up good ideas in the country IMHO.
For example Dubai built T3 in around 30 months I think. You could say a different dynamic but there was likely some hanky panky but 30 months is still impressive.
I wish the airport was upgraded where it is or a new one built close by with good infrastructure links to the main part of town. These ideas are not new and as GE says maybe the new president will get things organised.
The frustration of delays and circling Manila airport for 45 minutes does grind a bit if you are a frequent traveler like myself.
WestCoast1
07-21-16, 03:35
The frustration of delays and circling Manila airport for 45 minutes does grind a bit if you are a frequent traveler like myself.Concur. Recent flight from Cebu to Manila was extended airborn (good weather) on CP (flight left on time).
Time to depart the aircraft, pick up luggage, and get to the taxi queues: a short 10 minutes.
At the time, there was no white taxi lane. Just fixed-cost taxis (they look like white SUV's), touted at p530 to my hotel. Should have taken one. There was construction, and an obvious traffic jam getting out, backed up all the way to the taxi queues. Went to the yellow taxi line. Time to get yellow taxi: 90 minutes. Kept looking back at the fixed-cost taxi lane, but no more fresh taxis were showing up (and relatively few yellows in my queue). After entering my yellow taxi, we moved 20 meters in 30 minutes. Time to depart the airport facility: 1 hour. Time from getting to the street, until getting to my hotel in Malate: another hour. P470 on the meter. This was late afternoon. Saved myself 60 pesos and waited 90 minutes in the heat. Boy, I showed them pilipinos!
GoodEnough
07-21-16, 08:12
The new airport was suggested during the last 6 years of PNoy (PAL and SM I think proposed it) but as you noted earlier, this idea fell flat fro a number of reason one likely being people wanting to dip their hand into to the pot of a private investment that the investors did not want. Always politics etc gets involved to mess up good ideas in the country IMHO.
For example Dubai built T3 in around 30 months I think. You could say a different dynamic but there was likely some hanky panky but 30 months is still impressive.
I wish the airport was upgraded where it is or a new one built close by with good infrastructure links to the main part of town. These ideas are not new and as GE says maybe the new president will get things organised.
The frustration of delays and circling Manila airport for 45 minutes does grind a bit if you are a frequent traveler like myself.The ground equipment at NAIA could be upgraded but won't be, and the stuff now in use was antique ten years ago. The physical infrastructure at the airport cannot, or so I'm told, be improved as there's no room for another parallel runway, so significantly increasing capacity isn't feasible. I'm hoping the San Miguel plan gets untracked but I have no real hope, and the chances are that even if the plan were to receive approval, they would prompt lawsuits that would tie the whole thing up in court for years. What worries me far more than the frustrations stemming from the endless delays is the fact that, according to IATA, NAIA is one of the world's least safe airports. Couple that with the fact that the only civilian flight radars--aside from one approach radar in Cebu--are in NAIA, and ancient, and it doesn't take an aviation expert to anticipate the potential for catastrophe. I think of these facts every time I fly here and I fly at least four times a month.
GE.
P530? I've had them quote over 1000 for a trip to Malate.
The last two times I stayed in Malate the taxi used the Skyway (from Terminal 3) and I noticed we sped past Makati on the way. It made me think I should be staying in Makati.
Westy, were you using a different terminal and did the taxi use Roxas Blvd. ?
Concur. Recent flight from Cebu to Manila was extended airborn (good weather) on CP (flight left on time).
Time to depart the aircraft, pick up luggage, and get to the taxi queues: a short 10 minutes.
At the time, there was no white taxi lane. Just fixed-cost taxis (they look like white SUV's), touted at p530 to my hotel. Should have taken one. There was construction, and an obvious traffic jam getting out, backed up all the way to the taxi queues. Went to the yellow taxi line. Time to get yellow taxi: 90 minutes. Kept looking back at the fixed-cost taxi lane, but no more fresh taxis were showing up (and relatively few yellows in my queue). After entering my yellow taxi, we moved 20 meters in 30 minutes. Time to depart the airport facility: 1 hour. Time from getting to the street, until getting to my hotel in Malate: another hour. P470 on the meter. This was late afternoon. Saved myself 60 pesos and waited 90 minutes in the heat. Boy, I showed them pilipinos!
WestCoast1
07-22-16, 04:54
P530? I've had them quote over 1000 for a trip to Malate.
The last two times I stayed in Malate the taxi used the Skyway (from Terminal 3) and I noticed we sped past Makati on the way. It made me think I should be staying in Makati.
Westy, were you using a different terminal and did the taxi use Roxas Blvd. ?That was T3. The taxi headed to Roxas, and took a total of 2 hours from my stepping in, to stepping out with my luggage at the hotel. Add 90 minutes waiting in line.
I too have had huge quotes from some of the touts, going Malate or Makati, over p1000. However I think those guys were not airport-sanctioned. The prices are marked on a large chart. Admittedly the chart is hard to read, as you must walk right up to the chart, then find your city / area to find the cost. Then you know the truth if the tout was over-pricing you.
Thanks Hutsori. I haven't thought about those parts yet because I wanted to find out if its highly possible (with the girls and hotel being OK with it). But I am definitely hoping for having all of them in bed at the same time and the breaking off into groups would probably be plan be. So I guess I definitely need to discuss it with them beforehand. Hope they are OK with each other. Can't wait for this trip!
You're welcome. Just about any experience may be obtained. However, assuming things will happen as you dreamt is most likely result in the experience not meeting the expectation. Conversation goes a long way to improve the likelihood of your hapenis.
Of course arguing with 3 women in your hotel room at 3 am may be on your bucket list too.
As for the hotel, it's case-by-case when two or more guests show up. A hotel may classify them as guests, i.e. someone residing in the hotel, whereas you see than as visitors. If you have the name(s) of a hotel or two the forum may help with specific info. Better still, email the hotels, taking care to mention that they are your visitors and not guests. A way to bypass this uncertainty is to rent a condo through Airbnb or similar service.
Enjoy your stay.
Had a day at the start and the end of my trip to kill in Manila and stayed at Hotel Kimberly which is currently undergoing renovations at was a little noisy the second time around. It can't go without saying that Manila is one of the worlds great shit holes and I'll avoid the place if I ever come back.
Making the best of the situation I headed down to LA Cafe and based on many of the reports I read here I didn't expect much. The place is a bit of a dump but there were a few cute girls, and some horrors to be had and I ended up with a half Spanish, half Philippines girl for 3000 pesos for the night. Not sure if I over payed but I'm sure the price police will flame me if I did.
Back in the room and (insert name here) was super sweet. Long and slow BBBJ, sex in multiple positions and 3 shots by the time she left at 9. 30 am. At the end of my time in PP I returned to LA Cafe and after about an hour of talking and negotiating with 2 or 3 girls I ran into the original girl from the first visit. Took her again for another fun night.
Had a few hours to kill the next day before my flight so wandered back down there about lunchtime and there were probably 15 girls there, all old or ugly or both. Needless to say I left alone.
Soapy Smith
07-23-16, 15:58
At the time, there was no white taxi lane. Just fixed-cost taxis (they look like white SUV's), touted at p530 to my hotel. Should have taken one. There was construction, and an obvious traffic jam getting out, backed up all the way to the taxi queues. Went to the yellow taxi line. Time to get yellow taxi: 90 minutes. Kept looking back at the fixed-cost taxi lane, but no more fresh taxis were showing up (and relatively few yellows in my queue). After entering my yellow taxi, we moved 20 meters in 30 minutes. Time to depart the airport facility: 1 hour. Time from getting to the street, until getting to my hotel in Malate: another hour. P470 on the meter. This was late afternoon. Saved myself 60 pesos and waited 90 minutes in the heat. Boy, I showed them pilipinos!Based on a half dozen recent visits through NAIA it appears that the problem is not primarily related to choice of taxi (admittedly, there is often a queue for the cheaper yellow cabs), but to construction. It appears to me that construction of the new Skyway (intended to connect Mall of Asia, Cavite expressway, the airport, and World Resorts area to the Southern Expressway) has really created a bottleneck. Taxis, jeepneys, buses, and other vehicles seem to have been cut off from some of the shortcuts that they previously used to get in and out of the area, especially around Terminal 3. So now everything has to flow through a few narrow lanes underneath the overhead roadway that will eventually be the Skyway. Access in and out of T1 and T2 isn't much better.
I arrived at NAIA via Roxas a couple times, and it was similarly backed up, presumably because of all the traffic headed into the congested construction area approaching the airport. Getting from T3 to Makati (or to go to Malate / Ermita via the Southern Expressway and Osmena) seems to have fewer problems. I suspect if your driver had taken the Southern Expressway / Osmena to get to Malate he would have gotten there with less traffic congestion, even though it seems more roundabout. The driver will want 20 pesos for the toll, but so what?
GE and others have written about the growing gridlock in Metro Manila. Construction planning and implementation are obvious problems, but somebody recently suggested another factor: Call centers and other IT work has produced growing numbers of "middle class" families, and the availability of cheap, small cars has made it possible for them to own cars for the first time in the family's history. This means increasing numbers of vehicles on the roads.
MrWoolyBooly
07-23-16, 22:29
Thanks BD! Sorry won't be heading to AC. But I might just change my mind once I reach the Philippines.
So one of my goals for my trip to Manila would be to take multiple girls back to my hotel room (I'm sure that I am not the only person who shares this goal). I'm not talking about just 2 girls but 3+. Just want to try and experience that in life. Any pros out there who have experienced this willing to share their experience and how to achieve this goal? Any problems with the hotels and you bringing more than one "guest". I understand that one guest is OK but would they deny the other girls?
Thanks in advance!For the multiples, my best advice is to make it clear to the first girl what you want, then ask her if she has any sexy friends, sisters or cousins that would be interested in joining the party. For the hotels, my experience has always been, don't cause them trouble and they'll pretend not to notice our pursuits. I've many times brought two at a time quietly with normal conversational tones among us. On occasions with 3+ guests, I've kept a couple in the room (bang box only, no personal belongings to worry about) while escorting the others up to join us. When I am thinking clearly enough and have enough advance detail, I just ask the door guy to let her / them up to my room when they arrive. That's just my experience, hope it helps.
DreamCarnarvon
07-27-16, 00:10
I am going to be taking my first trip to the Philippines in October so its still a good 2 months away from now. But when I was checking out accommodations on online yesterday, I found that a lot of hotels / apts are already booked through September. I'm thinking that I might need to book soon to secure a good place.
My budget is $30/ night. All I'm looking for is a nice clean place with WiFi and cable TV (for the girls).
I am going to be staying in Manila for 1 week. I am not going to visit EDSA and Burgos much, if at all. I do plan to visit LA cafe for a night or two. I will mainly be using dating sites and wechat to meet girls and invite them to my place. My main objective is to bang as many girls as possible, as well as making my 3 some dream come true.
1) I've read through the legendary DS aka Member #4387's posts and knows that he almost always stays in Makati. Its a more upscale neighborhood so I think girls will be more willing to come to Makati as oppose to Malate or Ermita. Any thoughts on this guys? Also, Makati seems like a pretty big area. What area should I stay in for a balance of security and affordability?
2) Hotels vs Airbnb. The hotel that DS stays at is way too expensive for me. Yet the Makati hotels I found in my budget range (30/ night) all look old and nasty to me. Anyone have any hotel recommendations? I'm kinda leaning towards Airbnb as I have found a few in the Makati area that look pretty clean and modern. The only concern I have is the security of my belongings with overnight pinay (s)? Anyone experienced dating site girls with stealing? Any input is much appreciated.
My budget is $30/ night. All I'm looking for is a nice clean place with WiFi and cable TV (for the girls).
I am going to be staying in Manila for 1 week. I am not going to visit EDSA and Burgos much, if at all. I do plan to visit LA cafe for a night or two. I will mainly be using dating sites and wechat to meet girls and invite them to my place. My main objective is to bang as many girls as possible, as well as making my 3 some dream come true.
1) I've read through the legendary DS aka Member #4387's posts and knows that he almost always stays in Makati. Its a more upscale neighborhood so I think girls will be more willing to come to Makati as oppose to Malate or Ermita. Any thoughts on this guys? Also, Makati seems like a pretty big area. What area should I stay in for a balance of security and affordability?
2) Hotels vs Airbnb. The hotel that DS stays at is way too expensive for me. Yet the Makati hotels I found in my budget range (30/ night) all look old and nasty to me. Anyone have any hotel recommendations? I'm kinda leaning towards Airbnb as I have found a few in the Makati area that look pretty clean and modern. The only concern I have is the security of my belongings with overnight pinay (s)? Anyone experienced dating site girls with stealing? Any input is much appreciated.$30 a day is a bit tight. That'll get you a low-end pension, like the Malate Pensionne at p1000 per night. Red Planet is less grotty than a pension, but the rooms are very small.
Airbnb is your best option for price + amenities, such as a swimming pool and a gym. You may also save a bit on your total budget by cooking a few meals at home rather than dining out and hanging out at in coffee shops.
Yes, it's unlikely an airbnb flat has a safe. BTW, if an airbnb landlord is reading, you ought to consider putting in a small, hotel-room safe in your condo as a way to differentiate it from the herd. The safety of your valuables depends on the quality of your hiding spots. I've never had a dating site girl steal anything from me *knock wood*, and I meet a lot of them. Those who have stolen have been late-night drunken pick ups from the likes of LA Cafe, etc. It's only been a few occurrences, so not the norm. Minimise temptation. Don't keep valuables visible, don't have a lot of cash in your wallet, don't leave a stranger alone in your place as you dash out to get food or whatever. Common sense precautions.
We've debated the merits of Makati v Manila often in this forum. I'm a Makati advocate for many reasons. Some girls are wary of going to Manila itself because of perceived danger. I've had a few girls tell me they've had never been to Manila though they've spent their entire lives living in Makati, QC, etc. On the flipside, there are many Manila-based dating site girls who possess no misgivings at all. For me an important thing is the ease for the girl to travel to and find my place - I'm not running around to malls and coffee shops. Though metro Manila transport sucks, it can suck less in some places. I lived in Makati for a couple of years before relocating to Pasay. I think Makati is far superior to Manila because of the variety of transport links, the safety, the grocers, and the better dining and entertainment options. But, for a fella who wants to pull from LA Cafe, Harrison Plaza, and Robinson's, to stay in Makati is double plus ungood.
I tend limit myself to visitors who live in metro Manila (I don't need the hassle of some newbie coming from Pampanga), and Makati is the ideal spot for girls coming from QC, Las Pinas / Alabang, Pasay, and Manila itself. A girl in Caloocan can board the LRT, take it to Gil Puyat station, exit and board a jeep or bus going to Makati. A girl in QC can board the MRT and then bus or jeep. Keep in mind that a lot of girls can't figure things out, so they'll be asking you to sort it for them. If you can't answer questions, then it may be best for all for her to take a taxi or you to arrange transport, such as an uber. Look for hotels / condos near major intersections, easy to see landmarks, and not too far from MRT / LRT stations. In Makati an ideal inexpensive location is near Makati Medical Center, such as the condos in barangay Pio Del Pilar. Staying at a condo near Greenbelt is even better because a girl can find that on her own, but those are posher residences and more expensive.
WestCoast1
07-27-16, 14:06
Upon arrival at T1 from my int'l flight, after picking up luggage and heading towards taxis, before exiting the doors I spotted the Globe stand and purchased a Globe sim card. I had the girl install the card into my American smart phone. I loaded it right there. To make absolutely sure the card worked, I asked the girl to send a simple txt to my number from her phone and she did: "Hi. Angela". I replied Hi, Westy. And went on my way. 2 days later having coffee with a mate in Makati, I noticed his cell showed 4 GLTE, while mine showed 4 G only. Both of our sims are Globe. Later I walked in a Globe store in the mall, found a techie rep there, and he pointed out that my sim card was 4 G-capable only. If I wanted LTE then I would have to purchase a new LTE sim card. Hey, kid, can you transfer my load balance + my purchased unli data + txt msging from the old sim to a new LTE sim? "No sir, sorry". Great. Off I went.
As I was departing the mall, out of the blue I got a txt from an unknown number: "Hi this Angela. Remember? Manila airport". Oh, yes, Hi sweetie, let me add you to my contacts. "Westy where you now?" Makati sweetie, why? "I have shit life. Birthday tomorrow. No celebration. No money". Oh my, did the NAIA Globe chick just hint at money? Well, that's unfortunate honey. "Westy what you do tomorrow night?" Ah, flying to the province in the morning sweetie, out of town for a while (never thought I'd say this: Saved by Cebu Pacific). "Oh ok. Shit life here". The next day she sent several more txts about having no money for her party that evening. The txts died down in quantity, but persisted for several weeks.
Regarding the 4 G sims, the Globe guy said there some phones out there that are still not LTE capable, and that's why the Globe peddlers sometimes sell 4 G-only sims. Wish Angela had offered the option.
Member #4698
07-27-16, 18:28
To make absolutely sure the card worked, I asked the girl to send a simple txt to my number from her phone and she did: "Hi. Angela". I replied Hi, Westy. And went on my way. ...
As I was departing the mall, out of the blue I got a txt from an unknown number: "Hi this Angela. Remember? Manila airport". Oh, yes, Hi sweetie, let me add you to my contacts. "Westy where you now?" Makati sweetie, why? "I have shit life. Birthday tomorrow. No celebration. No money". Oh my, did the NAIA Globe chick just hint at money? This story put a smile on my face. But WestCoast, you neglected to describe Angela's looks. Was she doable? I love random possibilities. The PI are chock full of them.
On the last night of one of my previous visits I had dinner at one of the Green Belt mall restaurants. I was not looking for a girl having had pool party & goodbye sex with my favorite girl that afternoon, but I decided to have one more stroll around Havana Cafe / Starbucks later that night just for the hell of it. I did not see any girl I had to have hanging out between the two coffee shops so I walked towards the GreenBelt 3 exit and my hotel. And low and behold, that's where I spotted a very sexy girl standing by her lonesome just outside the mall smoking a cigarette. She smiled at me and asked where I was going. I said, "Home, USA." Then she said, "take me with. " We both laughed and I said, "I wish I could."
On the subject of sending money: I always held the position of no way and of being a strictly pay as I go kind of guy. But I have to confess that earlier this month I broke my long standing habit and sent my #1 girl $150 for her birthday. She did not ask for money explicitly, but we were chatting and I made the foolish mistake of asking what she was going to do on her birthday. She said nothing special because she did not have any money. So while we continued chatting about other things I wired her the present and then I told her what I had done. This is the same girl that saved me around $1000 in barfines on my last two trips so it is not exactly out of pocket. But as Dylan once wrote:
"Well, they'll stone ya when you're trying to be so good
They'll stone ya just a-like they said they would
They'll stone ya when you're tryin' to go home
Then they'll stone ya when you're there all alone
But I would not feel so all alone
Everybody must get stoned."
-Rainy Day Woman #12 & 35
WestCoast1
07-28-16, 13:01
This story put a smile on my face. But WestCoast, you neglected to describe Angela's looks. Was she doable? I love random possibilities. The PI are chock full of them.
Angela is not really doable. She'd have to give *me* some taxi money in the morning.
DreamCarnarvon
07-28-16, 14:57
I tend limit myself to visitors who live in metro Manila (I don't need the hassle of some newbie coming from Pampanga), and Makati is the ideal spot for girls coming from QC, Las Pinas / Alabang, Pasay, and Manila itself. A girl in Caloocan can board the LRT, take it to Gil Puyat station, exit and board a jeep or bus going to Makati. A girl in QC can board the MRT and then bus or jeep. Keep in mind that a lot of girls can't figure things out, so they'll be asking you to sort it for them. If you can't answer questions, then it may be best for all for her to take a taxi or you to arrange transport, such as an uber. Look for hotels / condos near major intersections, easy to see landmarks, and not too far from MRT / LRT stations. In Makati an ideal inexpensive location is near Makati Medical Center, such as the condos in barangay Pio Del Pilar. Staying at a condo near Greenbelt is even better because a girl can find that on her own, but those are posher residences and more expensive.Thanks for the detailed and helpful reply Hutsori. I am a complete newbie when it comes to Philippines and I have so much learning to do. To me, that's part of the fun. You, DS and the many veteran members here are who I hope I can one day become. If you are still in Manila in October when I arrive, I would love to meet up with you for a drink and maybe you can share some more of your vast knowledge about the pinay land to me.
To be honest, this coming short trip is for me to test in person the possibility of Philippines as hunting ground in the future when I will be staying long term.
DreamCarnarvon
07-28-16, 15:31
Per Wikipedia, the only bank in Philippines that do not charge withdrawal fees for foreign ATM cards is HSBC. Can any member confirm this? Are there any other banks that do not charge a fee (service charge)?
From a security and safety stand point, I am thinking about mostly using my ATM card to withdrawal funds when I am in manila as oppose to bringing all cash (and using money exchange shops) with me.
GoodEnough
07-28-16, 22:26
Per Wikipedia, the only bank in Philippines that do not charge withdrawal fees for foreign ATM cards is HSBC. Can any member confirm this? Are there any other banks that do not charge a fee (service charge)?
From a security and safety stand point, I am thinking about mostly using my ATM card to withdrawal funds when I am in manila as oppose to bringing all cash (and using money exchange shops) with me.HSBC does charge the standard Php200 per transaction, as with all other banks. However, it's the only bank I know of here that allows up to Php40,000 per withdrawal.
GE.
Wicked Roger
07-29-16, 01:30
Per Wikipedia, the only bank in Philippines that do not charge withdrawal fees for foreign ATM cards is HSBC. Can any member confirm this? Are there any other banks that do not charge a fee (service charge)?
From a security and safety stand point, I am thinking about mostly using my ATM card to withdrawal funds when I am in manila as oppose to bringing all cash (and using money exchange shops) with me.GE is correct but if you are a HSBC card holder there is always no fee if you use an ATM from HSBC. Sometime it is better to ask the bank not Wikipedia. The call center in your country is usually free.
HSBC does charge the standard Php200 per transaction, as with all other banks. However, it's the only bank I know of here that allows up to Php40,000 per withdrawal.
GE is correct in that they normally charge a fee for withdrawal from non-HSBC ATMs. HSBC ATMs are difficult to find in the Philippines (Manila and Cebu have them, and there may be others).
In my case, when my account was set-up some 16 years ago, it was flagged with a "no transaction charge" provision because I agreed to the direct-deposit of my monthly salary check into the account, and that provision holds to this day. If I use non-HSBC ATMs in the Philippines (I rarely do) or use networked ATMs in other countries (much more common) the fee appears in my account and is then deducted at end of month reckoning.
Member #4566
07-29-16, 07:06
Per Wikipedia, the only bank in Philippines that do not charge withdrawal fees for foreign ATM cards is HSBC. Can any member confirm this? Are there any other banks that do not charge a fee (service charge)?
From a security and safety stand point, I am thinking about mostly using my ATM card to withdrawal funds when I am in manila as oppose to bringing all cash (and using money exchange shops) with me.Sometime ago I researched this and I found that Citibank does not charge ATM fees in the PI. I would do follow up to see if this remains true.
Sometime ago I researched this and I found that Citibank does not charge ATM fees in the PI. I would do follow up to see if this remains true.You could be right on this because as I forgot to mention in Post 14967, most of these large international banks are actually franchised to each country.
Despite being international banks, both HSBC and Citibank are marketed as HSBC Philippines and Citibank Philippines, and so are subject to the rules of the Philippines.
They also have their own rules as distinct fro the "parent", even though they are all linked internatonally and appear as one big happy family.
Note also that the Philippines Deposit Insurance Cover is 500,000 php, so if anything goes wrong with your bank account in any of the Philippine banks, that's the extent of any local bank's liability.
GoodEnough
07-29-16, 09:41
Sometime ago I researched this and I found that Citibank does not charge ATM fees in the PI. I would do follow up to see if this remains true.The last time I used a Citibank ATM here I was charged the normal fee. However, I haven't used one for a while so things might have changed.
GoodEnough
07-29-16, 09:43
GE is correct in that they normally charge a fee for withdrawal from non-HSBC ATMs. HSBC ATMs are difficult to find in the Philippines (Manila and Cebu have them, and there may be others).
In my case, when my account was set-up some 16 years ago, it was flagged with a "no transaction charge" provision because I agreed to the direct-deposit of my monthly salary check into the account, and that provision holds to this day. If I use non-HSBC ATMs in the Philippines (I rarely do) or use networked ATMs in other countries (much more common) the fee appears in my account and is then deducted at end of month reckoning.HSBC Davao charges the fee for non-HSBC cards. I, like you though have a no fee provision with my US bank, so no matter what ATM I use, the fees are refunded sometime during the month.
Member #4566
07-29-16, 12:40
The last time I used a Citibank ATM here I was charged the normal fee. However, I haven't used one for a while so things might have changed.This site seems to indicate that Citibank has zero fees. Now maybe the (Philippine) Citibank referred to herein is a distinct subsidiary of the (USA) Citibank Group such that an account holder in the latter will not vest you with zero-fee ATM privileges in the former.
http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/bank-service-balance-inquiry-withdrawal-fee/
DreamCarnarvon
07-29-16, 19:06
HSBC Davao charges the fee for non-HSBC cards. I, like you though have a no fee provision with my US bank, so no matter what ATM I use, the fees are refunded sometime during the month.Charles Schwab offers unlimited ATM fee rebates from any ATM worldwide. Their definition of this ATM fee is: "those (fees) assessed for using an ATM to withdraw cash from your Schwab Bank account. " I wonder if the php200 fee would fall under this definition? I will need to call them to find out and report back.
Charles Schwab offers unlimited ATM fee rebates from any ATM worldwide. Their definition of this ATM fee is: "those (fees) assessed for using an ATM to withdraw cash from your Schwab Bank account. " I wonder if the php200 fee would fall under this definition? I will need to call them to find out and report back.I have been using the Schwab Visa ATM card for years. They reimburse me all fees, typically at the end of the month.
WestCoast1
07-30-16, 13:37
I have been using the Schwab Visa ATM card for years. They reimburse me all fees, typically at the end of the month.I have been using the Schwab Visa ATM card for less than a year. I got one based on the recommendation of a board member here. They really *do* reimburse me all fees related to my out-of-network card use at the end of each month, so that the only thing deducted (after the reimburse) is the amount of money that I withdrew from the account.
DreamCarnarvon
07-30-16, 20:13
I have been using the Schwab Visa ATM card for less than a year. I got one based on the recommendation of a board member here. They really *do* reimburse me all fees related to my out-of-network card use at the end of each month, so that the only thing deducted (after the reimburse) is the amount of money that I withdrew from the account.Looks like I might need to open an account with Charles Schwab then. WestCoast1, how does the ATM exchange rate compare to the money exchange places?
RustyIsReady
07-30-16, 20:43
Does anybody have any thoughts on the Bayview and if they allow overnight guests? Clean and comfy? Etc thanks, Rusty.
WestCoast1
07-31-16, 01:47
Looks like I might need to open an account with Charles Schwab then. WestCoast1, how does the ATM exchange rate compare to the money exchange places?You always get the best exchange rage at a street money changer in phils. While the phils money changers are giving in the 47-1 USD range, your bank will be giving you 43-45-ish on your ATM withdrawal (and most include out-of-network fees of $5 also). The Schwab thing simply saves me the $5 fee, and also the machine's p200 fee. Even worse is if you try to exchange your American dollars for phils pesos while at your local branch in the US. The local branch may have to order the pesos from headquarters, and either way they will give you 35-41 pesos per USD (a terrible rate).
Does anybody have any thoughts on the Bayview and if they allow overnight guests? Clean and comfy? Etc thanks, Rusty.If you mean Bayview park hotel opp you US embassy, it is a comfortable cheaper hotel. Best price is on Asiatravel.com.
I have stayed there few times. It is girl friendly if you book for two people. This hotel caters to mostly Philippine families.
Breakfast is included and is ok. I have taken two girls sometimes without any issues. Generally if you take a girl after 11 pm they will keep her I. D and may check and see if your room is booked for two people.
Nowadays I do have couple of girl friends in Manila stay with me. During daytime girls can come up to your room with no problem.
Location is good. Rooms are basic but bathrooms have a tub. Wi fi is free. If you are going to Angeles by swagman bus or southern cross it is right around the corner.
Soapy Smith
07-31-16, 03:12
You always get the best exchange rage at a street money changer in phils. I agree that money changers in businesses along the street give better rates than ATMs, banks back home, and (especially) captive audience currency exchanges in Narita, Incheon, Detroit, and other international airports. But on one recent trip I got better prices at the money exchanges at NAIA airport than at street exchanges elsewhere in Pasay. Difference wasn't big, $46.00 on the street, $46.20 at the airport. I think the reason NAIA exchanges are competitive is because they are not captive audience: they are beyond immigration and luggage pickup, so customers have several competitors, or can even wait and do business at streetside exchanges. Even when the exchanges at NAIA are a tad higher than streetside vendors, they are still relatively competitive, and in my recent arrivals they have been open well past midnight.
WestCoast1
07-31-16, 15:48
Looks like I might need to open an account with Charles Schwab then. WestCoast1, how does the ATM exchange rate compare to the money exchange places?From my recent Schwab bank statement:
07/ xx /2016 ATMREBATE ATM Fee Rebate $xx. Xx.
Speaking of Pasay, I popped into a money changer just a block away from EDSA Entertainment Plaza and he tried to charge me something ridiculous. Luckily I didn't need the money, I was just checking rates. I can imagine some punter buying a few drink rounds and then realizing he doesn't have enough for the barfine. Where's the nearest money changer!?
Manila has better rates than AC. I regularly use a place near the Rothman Hotel, which is near Robinsons Mall, but on the Malate side of the street.
AC money changers down toward the jeepney terminal consistently have (slightly) better rates than on Walking Street.
I don't live in the Philippines, but exchange rates seem to be less favorable on weekends. Buy your pesos on Friday.
I agree that money changers in businesses along the street give better rates than ATMs, banks back home, and (especially) captive audience currency exchanges in Narita, Incheon, Detroit, and other international airports. But on one recent trip I got better prices at the money exchanges at NAIA airport than at street exchanges elsewhere in Pasay. Difference wasn't big, $46.00 on the street, $46.20 at the airport. I think the reason NAIA exchanges are competitive is because they are not captive audience: they are beyond immigration and luggage pickup, so customers have several competitors, or can even wait and do business at streetside exchanges. Even when the exchanges at NAIA are a tad higher than streetside vendors, they are still relatively competitive, and in my recent arrivals they have been open well past midnight.
I don't live in the Philippines, but exchange rates seem to be less favorable on weekends. Buy your pesos on Friday.I think some guys get carried away by the forex values and invest an extraordinary amount of effort in order to get the "best" rate.
It's almost as though they cannot bear to think of getting (say) 46.40 php to the dollar and then seeing another place offering 46.58 somewhere else.
One guy reported on here sometime ago how he traipsed to Malate from Makati just to get a better rate of 0. 5 percentage points.
It's all a matter of perspective.
If you're exchanging 500 - 1000 usd then a difference of 1 peso in the rate might be seen as obviously significant, but when guys are quibbling over 0. 1 - 0. 5 php difference to change 200 usd then to my mind it's hardly worth the hassle. I think it's more important to find a reputable money changer where you know you are not going to be scammed with a fake note inserted in the stack.
FWIW, I travel a lot for work all around SE Asia and I use my ATM card to access money wherever I go (I don't pay any fees). I am convinced that when I do my sums on my return the ATM rate is at least equal to if not better than the rates that I see with money changers but, for me personally, I prefer the convenience of the ATM with clear records of all transactions.
Thanks BD! Sorry won't be heading to AC. But I might just change my mind once I reach the Philippines.
So one of my goals for my trip to Manila would be to take multiple girls back to my hotel room (I'm sure that I am not the only person who shares this goal). I'm not talking about just 2 girls but 3+. Just want to try and experience that in life. Any pros out there who have experienced this willing to share their experience and how to achieve this goal? Any problems with the hotels and you bringing more than one "guest". I understand that one guest is OK but would they deny the other girls?
Thanks in advance!I met a girl in LA Cafe. I put her to work for me. I need 2 more girls. Pretty, short and thin, over 20, and willing to play with each other before I join in. She made some calls, showed me pics on her phone and about 45 minutes later they showed up. Took a cab to the hotel and partied for 4 hours for 2 k apiece.
Next day my partner was waiting in the lobby with 2 new girls, even better and more to my tastes than the first pair. Bought them lunch then upstairs for the same. 1 had to take off but the other 2 stayed the night for another 2 k each and breakfast. I showed them some magic tricks and they thought I was the devil for a while.
Looks like I might need to open an account with Charles Schwab then. WestCoast1, how does the ATM exchange rate compare to the money exchange places?I have been using mine for quite a few years now. I checked the Schwab rate a couple of times over the years, and it was always close to the internation bank rate, I. E. Pretty good. However, I have not checked lately, in over a year.
Schwab is great! Just a couple of caveats, though. Make sure you give yourself enough leeway in opening an account. Since it is linked with a brokerage account, they will run a credit check on you. It takes about 3-5 business days, if I recall correctly, and then they send you the ATM card. Also, they take 3 business days to transfer funds from your bank to theirs, so plan ahead.
But they reimburse both International transaction fees and ATM surcharges. Honestly, I don't know what's in it for them.
I like having an active account separate from my main accounts, to limit the damage if I fall victim to an ATM scanner or get mugged and forced to give up my PIN.
I don't sweat the difference in exchange rates between ATM and cash exchangers (if any). I'll take a hit for the convenience of using any ATM any time for free, and not having to carry a butt load of cash on me after exchanging money, or getting scammed.
Oh, and call them before you travel to allow international use of the card, or it will be locked out. You can also do it on their website.
My last trip I knew I was running short of pesos on me but I had USD on me. The waitress just had the money exchanged for me at a decent rate and I never had to leave. They wanted my business and I tip reasonably well.
Speaking of Pasay, I popped into a money changer just a block away from EDSA Entertainment Plaza and he tried to charge me something ridiculous. Luckily I didn't need the money, I was just checking rates. I can imagine some punter buying a few drink rounds and then realizing he doesn't have enough for the barfine. Where's the nearest money changer!?
Manila has better rates than AC. I regularly use a place near the Rothman Hotel, which is near Robinsons Mall, but on the Malate side of the street.
AC money changers down toward the jeepney terminal consistently have (slightly) better rates than on Walking Street.
I don't live in the Philippines, but exchange rates seem to be less favorable on weekends. Buy your pesos on Friday.
Pinaypounder
08-17-16, 15:45
I send money to one of my staff using Iremit. Their exchange rate is good and their fees are low, I can send about 200 K for 10 bucks then I have my staff meet me and give me the money and we have a lunch meeting anyways.
By far the bst bank I have worked with there is the Citibank I would gladly do and advertisement for them.
"To fuck more girls for your money use CITIBANK More Ho for your Dough!
Citibank, we care about your pleasure!
Citibank please use your penis safely, only rela ho were used in this commercial, we know you can't do this at home.
Schwab is great! Just a couple of caveats, .....One of them is you have to be a US citizen or I think they call it a 'alien resident'. If you are neither, you will be out of luck with Schwab.
Member #4643
08-20-16, 17:30
I am a bit nervous in the Phils about young women who look older than they really are, and lie about their age.
What is the best way to confirm that a girl is actually older than 18?
I have read that identity cards are often fake. Is there a good way to tell if an identity card is not authentic?
Thanks!
Member #4558
08-20-16, 21:36
I am a bit nervous in the Phils about young women who look older than they really are, and lie about their age.
What is the best way to confirm that a girl is actually older than 18?
I have read that identity cards are often fake. Is there a good way to tell if an identity card is not authentic?
Thanks!Just go for girls with passport and SSS ID's. Very young girls won't have one or both (if they do fine because those documents are hard to fake). Girls from 23 and up, more and more will have passport and SSS ID. Rest of IDs cost just a few piso to buy a fake one. Not even native security guards can in most cases devise a fake from an original one. They can of course be better to establish a girls age but also for them it can be hard to tell if a girl is 17 or 19 yo and nothing I would take their word for. Can not be repeated to often; no matter what happens and how many vouched for a girl being old enough the blame dealing with a minor will always fall in your lap and probably something you from all costs will try to avoid. Better play it safe. There are huge stocks of girls having the two mentioned certified documents so no need to play it unsafe. Just my two cents.
Wicked Roger
08-20-16, 23:37
Just go for girls with passport and SSS ID's. .And if you get to see the passport you maybe able to look inside to see if she has traveled anywhere etc. Gives you a good feel of what she has been up to so you can match up against what is said etc (and if she has other sponsors).
PegInThePoke
08-21-16, 05:56
How reliable are the streetwalkers on Burgos street?
Has anyone had some seriously bad experiences with them? I looked back for some posts, but didn't see much about them.
I'm always tempted when I am in town, but never have taken one back to the hotel. ].
I completely avoid them in Angeles.
I am a bit nervous in the Phils about young women who look older than they really are, and lie about their age.
What is the best way to confirm that a girl is actually older than 18?
I have read that identity cards are often fake. Is there a good way to tell if an identity card is not authentic?
Thanks!1. Work I. D cards are pretty much legit as Legit can be in philippines.
2. Student I. D cards are good. Schools do check birth certificates (If there is one) . Otherwise they check education history, Barangay records.
3. Passport is not always correct because I know the province girl who I enjoyed when she was 18 went to gulf country for a job. These jobs require a min age of 23 . She would not tell me how she got it done.
Philippine girls are not total liers. If you push them they tell you their age. A pretty girl I was chatting on DIA was listed as 19. After some chat on skype she did admit she is only 17 but that does not matter. I told her for me it matters. AC or LA cafe girls were of questionable age few years ago but I guess nowadays they are legit. If you are afraid it is better to concentrate on older girls. Nothing to beat 18-21 year old girls in their friendliness, enthusiasm, and willingness to enjoy juicy sex.
Member #4558
08-21-16, 13:53
1. Work I. D cards are pretty much legit as Legit can be in philippines.
2. Student I. D cards are good. Schools do check birth certificates (If there is one) . Otherwise they check education history, Barangay records.
3. Passport is not always correct because I know the province girl who I enjoyed when she was 18 went to gulf country for a job. These jobs require a min age of 23 . She would not tell me how she got it done.So you are saying that, the easy to fake Student and Work ID card, are more trustable than a biometric passport (I am not talking about the old handwritten ones you know because you can't have them anymore for the latter 2-3 years) and a SSS ID card? Those IDs you list are easy to fake, my suggestions are not. It is of course a question on how paranoid you are but when it comes to age and girls I play it on the safe side even if I have to let a few go.
What has your girl going to Gulf for work and having a passport got anything to do with a fake ID to do? She could obtain her passport for others reasons and whatever who told you could of course be bola bola (I guess she told you otherwise hehe since you know her?
Wicked Roger
08-22-16, 01:13
3. Passport is not always correct because I know the province girl who I enjoyed when she was 18 went to gulf country for a job. These jobs require a min age of 23 . She would not tell me how she got it done..One way I was told by a girl who had the same age / job issue was she used her sisters birth certificate (Or an older relative) and paid some money (well it is the Philippines). Was easy she said but then later in life she wants her real passport there is trouble brewing. Another had her own name but got a fake birth certificate. Same thing as the other girl and same issues later when she went for a job where the age requirement was her real age but her 'passport age' was outside the range.
GoodEnough
08-22-16, 03:05
Yesterday, in a rambling press conference that ended about 3 AM, President Duterte summarily fired all government employees who are appointed, rather than career civil service. This includes thousands of positions across the entire government. I believe his intention was the curb the corruption that's rampant in government departments. I've got no idea if this move will impact the ease of obtaining false documents, but it's reasonable to expect that it might.
GE.
Econo Tech
08-22-16, 09:55
Yesterday, in a rambling press conference that ended about 3 AM, President Duterte summarily fired all government employees who are appointed, rather than career civil service. This includes thousands of positions across the entire government. I believe his intention was the curb the corruption that's rampant in government departments. I've got no idea if this move will impact the ease of obtaining false documents, but it's reasonable to expect that it might.
GE.Aquino did that on his first day at work and went with on a vengeance streak on those who refused to resign.
WR. My Iloilo girl worked in Singapore on her sister's passport as she didn't have money to get Her own passport.
Went back and then sister wanted to come here to work but no can do. As Singapore finger prints domestic workers.
And now the sister is terrified of even a short visit, as Singapore has started finger printing tourists too.
Dear Mongering brothers. Going to Philipina in mid Sept. First stop is Manila after which Cebu or AC. Looking for hotties like in Pattaya or BKK. Appreciating your recommendation!
AC has the advantage of many P4 P in compact area. Cebu has advantage of sweet non-P4 P girls if you set up in advance through dating websites like DIA or Filipina Cupid. Read the threads dor both locations.
Dear Mongering brothers. Going to Philipina in mid Sept. First stop is Manila after which Cebu or AC. Looking for hotties like in Pattaya or BKK. Appreciating your recommendation!.
AC has the advantage of many P4 P in compact area. Cebu has advantage of sweet non-P4 P girls if you set up in advance through dating websites like DIA or Filipina Cupid. Read the threads dor both locations.
.So Cebu is not a pattaya? No paid for action of good quality?
Dear Mongering brothers. Going to Philipina in mid Sept. First stop is Manila after which Cebu or AC. Looking for hotties like in Pattaya or BKK. Appreciating your recommendation!Cebu is a giant city w / a few bar districts. The only one I'm familiar with is Mango Sguare which has about 10 bars, at least it did 3 years ago. I found more than a few stunners there but they are very dedicated to the Korean.
Clientele so you better have some serious game to get the best there. I always ended up w / a 2nd or 3rd choice, never the one I was dying for.
I don't know if Red Lips is still open but that was a bar w / some real nice items. Then there is Vikings w / more hot dancers some being very hot. For me, a fit decent looking older guy I got played by Mango Sq's best lookers, drink hustlers all the way.
There is an area nearby, an open restaurant near big parking lot where the FLs ply their trade, near the popular disco, J Ave. That was a lot of fun but not many stunners, some though.
The malls in Cebu also have semi or non pro ladies shopping and ready for a diversion. Ayala Mall is the the upscale one and I did have success there. While walking the mall if a young lady smiles at you she's on the hook if you decide.
To stop her and say something, like where's a good restaurant. That's code for lets have some fun in my room. (JK) But that's what I did and enjoyed a real low miles lady. So if they smile that's it.
AC is full of women and bars but is a little shit hole of a town w / a 100 bars and a 1000 women so a much easy environment for hunting. In my experience I never see the same quality in AC as I do in any major city. AC has more but not the best.
Another option is Manila, specifically Makati where Burgos St is. Burgos St has similar quality as Cebu but w / no discrimination. The street has a lot of character, slightly narrow w / many restaurants and bars 3 blocks long. The top bars are Bottoms and Kojax, their prices are high, higher than Cebu prices. Kojax / Bottoms are 3000 p for the bar and the dancer will want another 3000 p for a tip. This will give you a few hours w / her which for me is all I need, bar hop, have fun and then f their brains out afterwards.
I prefer Makati over Cebu hands down because I'm treated better by the bars and the ladies on Burgos St. There's a nice FL scene that happens every night on Burgos w / some nice items available for 1500 to 2500 p. This street is a fun crazy Zoo like experience. I like to hang in Pashas restaurant and watch the energetic craziness w / middle eastern music filling the area, I like it a lot. Matter of fact I'll be there soon and do it all over again.
AC is the least expensive but the quality is not equal to the big cities plain and simple. I still love AC and enjoy an afternoon BF for 1500/2000 p (the complete cost) at the Perimeter bars and then at night enjoy the Fields Ave bars where the mega bars (80 dancers per) are very entertaining w / decent dancers and some nice items mixed around all the bars. Some picky guys hate the place though so if you're looking for stunning 8's, and 9's don't waste your time in AC.
Good luck.
Well you can but probably 1/20th of Pattaya or AC. Read the forums! Geez. Don't be so lazy dude.
So Cebu is not a pattaya? No paid for action of good quality?.
Wicked Roger
08-23-16, 01:53
So Cebu is not a pattaya? No paid for action of good quality?There is a separate Cebu thread that would cover all this if you had looked and RTFF.
Socker. Red Lips is closed. Most the bars in Mango are OK but Koreans are preferred in some and is why I go a different route to enjoy life there.
Fastpiston
08-23-16, 02:45
One way I was told by a girl who had the same age / job issue was she used her sisters birth certificate (Or an older relative) and paid some money (well it is the Philippines). Was easy she said but then later in life she wants her real passport there is trouble brewing. Another had her own name but got a fake birth certificate. Same thing as the other girl and same issues later when she went for a job where the age requirement was her real age but her 'passport age' was outside the range.Most foreign governments and now a lot of foreign recruiters do not recognize Philippine documentation as there are so many fakes in circulation. One country regularly recruits nurses from India and discontinued visiting Philippines after so many false documents were encountered. In Philippines, verify everything CAREFULLY.
Econo Tech
08-23-16, 11:07
Most foreign governments and now a lot of foreign recruiters do not recognize Philippine documentation as there are so many fakes in circulation. One country regularly recruits nurses from India and discontinued visiting Philippines after so many false documents were encountered. In Philippines, verify everything CAREFULLY.Not that India is better off.
Indian degrees are validated closely and passes for IT and technology jobs now take 60 days in Singapore for Indians, vs less than 30 days for others, including Filipinos.
ILoveTheHobby
08-26-16, 03:10
I see that most agencies have a 2 HR rate, but RTFF sounds like often that is only one pop. Is it once and done and she's out the door, or do you get the time, just one go? Or. Am I just wrong?
Thanks.
WestCoast1
08-26-16, 06:23
I see that most agencies have a 2 HR rate, but RTFF sounds like often that is only one pop. Is it once and done and she's out the door, or do you get the time, just one go? Or. Am I just wrong?
Thanks.Most agencies? What is this in reference to?
Blanquiceleste
08-26-16, 16:53
Most agencies? What is this in reference to?Escort Services I think. Sad.
SlutMonger
08-26-16, 22:45
I see that most agencies have a 2 HR rate, but RTFF sounds like often that is only one pop. Is it once and done and she's out the door, or do you get the time, just one go? Or. Am I just wrong?
Thanks.I have yet to go to the Philippines (coming soon) but why use an agency?
Just from simple search on the forum, I can tell you can just go outside (no games necessary), frequent a mall, hang out in the right spot or with some people on here, you can pick up a mamacita or two.
SlutMonger
08-26-16, 22:59
Cebu is a giant city w / a few bar districts. The only one I'm familiar with is Mango Sguare which has about 10 bars, at least it did 3 years ago. I found more than a few stunners there but they are very dedicated to the Korean.
Clientele so you better have some serious game to get the best there. I always ended up w / a 2nd or 3rd choice, never the one I was dying for.
I don't know if Red Lips is still open but that was a bar w / some real nice items. Then there is Vikings w / more hot dancers some being very hot. For me, a fit decent looking older guy I got played by Mango Sq's best lookers, drink hustlers all the way.
There is an area nearby, an open restaurant near big parking lot where the FLs ply their trade, near the popular disco, J Ave. That was a lot of fun but not many stunners, some though.
The malls in Cebu also have semi or non pro ladies shopping and ready for a diversion. Ayala Mall is the the upscale one and I did have success there. While walking the mall if a young lady smiles at you she's on the hook if you decide..Thanks for this!
Planning a trip and almost lost hope until I read your post.
Quick summary for any noobs reading this: LA Cafe, also been called the Manila Bay Cafe / MBC in the past, is basically a regular bar where most of the female non-staff are "on the market" so no bar fines. That said, the girls are supposed to have a drink to stay there but I've never bought one for them (never stayed long!
Long post, sorry.
So 9 pm on a Saturday. Mostly European / American men downstairs while what I assume are the Koreans headed upstairs. I would estimate 20-30 ladies present without obvious company downstairs, plus more with company. Looks are personal opinion but I would call them "average". Not top shelf stunners of course, but only the occasional munter. I would have said most of them were in their late 20s or early 30s, but I was wrong on my choice (later). I felt like a pair tonight and one pair latched on to me before I'd even ordered a drink, but didn't find them particularly attractive. If I'm going to pay for it then they should at least appeal to me a little! Looked around a bit, slowly drank Magners Pear (265 Php for a draught pint; bottles of domestic beer are 125), thought I'd wait a little more.
Approached another pair, told them I wanted LT but they initially wanted 3 k each for ST. Went down to 2 k for ST, no budging on the ST. Claimed they would lick each others clits but I've heard that one before. Thanked them and moved on.
Eventually another pair came in and I approached them. These were quite attractive, dressed in what I would call family night out dresses - pretty but not revealing. Grandmother would approve. They were called Joy and Jelly (or something), high school friends from Cavite. I thought late 20's or more but said they were 25 (couple of quick rapid fire maths questions backed this up, though obviously not conclusively). Again, started at 3 k each but agreed to 2 k LT. No bisexual antics though except external fondling (Back in the hotel they drank a little but weren't too hurried about anything (yet.). Had a shower together, albeit only me really in the shower as they didn't want to get their hair wet (a common thing I've found). Must remember the shower caps next time. Oh. Buy some Lactacyd. It's cheap, the girls like it, and more to the point they will use it if there. I've never had a skanky pussy after they've washed with that. Claimed my tintin was too big (girth apparently. Not the first time I've heard that and I don't *think* it's to try to avoid penetration).
One of the girls has A cups, and both nipples inverted. Bit strange but tick that achievement off the list. The other had quite a healthy chest, not sure if C or D but much bigger than average. One trimmed; the other Brazilian. Both slim and pretty.
CBJ on the bed; meh. More interested in DATY personally, and only one let me do it ("but not inside") by sitting over me. Wouldn't really let me get in close, only the clit. Shagged one with the other beside; switched to the other, but the first went off to the shower before I'd finished. Neither let me in deep. Finished, satisfied but not exactly thrilled with them. Cleaned up.
Afterwards they lay naked but sheets half covering them on the bed and proceeded to chat and text incessantly. Barely even acknowledged my existence! After about an hour of that with the TV on and only me watching (for the sake of something to do / watch) they announced they were leaving! But but but you agreed LT. Yessir but we need money, we want another customer. Honest I suppose. Tried resisting for a bit longer but realised it was futile. What's the point if they're unhappy. Let them go. This at nearly 1 in the morning. Receptionist phoned to check it was okay for them to leave. I've talked about the hotel in the Manila Hotels thread.
So, a bit crap really. Yes, I got laid but I'm feeling quite ambivalent about it. Ho hum, better luck next time!
For the record, I don't get a chance to play away being married, so in 10 years of visiting the Philippines I've only had 9 women. The best overall was a twosome in Flight 168, followed by a lovely lady in Angeles. A few more reasonably good, the rest average. None where I've felt really cheated or pissed off which is one thing I suppose!
Quick summary for any noobs reading this: LA Cafe, also been called the Manila Bay Cafe / MBC in the past, is basically a regular bar where most of the female non-staff are "on the market" so no bar fines. That said, the girls are supposed to have a drink to stay there but I've never bought one for them (never stayed long!
Long post, sorry.
So 9 pm on a Saturday. Mostly European / American men downstairs while what I assume are the Koreans headed upstairs. I would estimate 20-30 ladies present without obvious company downstairs, plus more with company. Looks are personal opinion but I would call them "average". Not top shelf stunners of course, but only the occasional munter. I would have said most of them were in their late 20s or early 30s, but I was wrong on my choice (later). I felt like a pair tonight and one pair latched on to me before I'd even ordered a drink, but didn't find them particularly attractive. If I'm going to pay for it then they should at least appeal to me a little! Looked around a bit, slowly drank Magners Pear (265 Php for a draught pint; bottles of domestic beer are 125), thought I'd wait a little more.
Approached another pair, told them I wanted LT but they initially wanted 3 k each for ST. Went down to 2 k for ST, no budging on the ST. Claimed they would lick each others clits but I've heard that one before. Thanked them and moved on.
Eventually another pair came in and I approached them. These were quite attractive, dressed in what I would call family night out dresses - pretty but not revealing. Grandmother would approve. They were called Joy and Jelly (or something), high school friends from Cavite. I thought late 20's or more but said they were 25 (couple of quick rapid fire maths questions backed this up, though obviously not conclusively). Again, started at 3 k each but agreed to 2 k LT. No bisexual antics though except external fondling (Back in the hotel they drank a little but weren't too hurried about anything (yet.). Had a shower together, albeit only me really in the shower as they didn't want to get their hair wet (a common thing I've found). Must remember the shower caps next time. Oh. Buy some Lactacyd. It's cheap, the girls like it, and more to the point they will use it if there. I've never had a skanky pussy after they've washed with that. Claimed my tintin was too big (girth apparently. Not the first time I've heard that and I don't *think* it's to try to avoid penetration).
One of the girls has A cups, and both nipples inverted. Bit strange but tick that achievement off the list. The other had quite a healthy chest, not sure if C or D but much bigger than average. One trimmed; the other Brazilian. Both slim and pretty.
CBJ on the bed; meh. More interested in DATY personally, and only one let me do it ("but not inside") by sitting over me. Wouldn't really let me get in close, only the clit. Shagged one with the other beside; switched to the other, but the first went off to the shower before I'd finished. Neither let me in deep. Finished, satisfied but not exactly thrilled with them. Cleaned up.
Afterwards they lay naked but sheets half covering them on the bed and proceeded to chat and text incessantly. Barely even acknowledged my existence! After about an hour of that with the TV on and only me watching (for the sake of something to do / watch) they announced they were leaving! But but but you agreed LT. Yessir but we need money, we want another customer. Honest I suppose. Tried resisting for a bit longer but realised it was futile. What's the point if they're unhappy. Let them go. This at nearly 1 in the morning. Receptionist phoned to check it was okay for them to leave. I've talked about the hotel in the Manila Hotels thread.
So, a bit crap really. Yes, I got laid but I'm feeling quite ambivalent about it. Ho hum, better luck next time!
For the record, I don't get a chance to play away being married, so in 10 years of visiting the Philippines I've only had 9 women. The best overall was a twosome in Flight 168, followed by a lovely lady in Angeles. A few more reasonably good, the rest average. None where I've felt really cheated or pissed off which is one thing I suppose!Nice and detailed post. Thanks for the info.
I Remeber way back 5 years ago, I was once take some LA cafe girls out, I found out that most girls there ever. Promise to stay LT and then at the end they want to go (for the next clientele). So I usually will discuss ST at first and then if I feel she is nice to be with for the night then I will go for LT then.
I wonder how much the money for girls in go go bar? Never try them before but wanting to try it this time.
I try to avoid freelance as worried for Robery.
Cheers,
MD.
Asian Rain
09-11-16, 09:05
Afterwards they lay naked but sheets half covering them on the bed and proceeded to chat and text incessantly. Barely even acknowledged my existence! After about an hour of that with the TV on and only me watching (for the sake of something to do / watch) they announced they were leaving! But but but you agreed LT. Yessir but we need money, we want another customer. Honest I suppose. Tried resisting for a bit longer but realised it was futile. What's the point if they're unhappy. Let them go. This at nearly 1 in the morning. Receptionist phoned to check it was okay for them to leave.Good post and thanks for sharing. I personally have never had a good experience taking two girls back. Never have had a "play together" experience. One typically waits in the bathroom and then they switch. My advice is simple for handling the girls in the room. First, minibar is cleared out prior to their arrival. Pick up snacks at 711 before coming back. Second, TV remote control is hidden. Just say the TV is broken and will only be repaired tomorrow. Phones are ordered OFF (or at least silent + no vibration) the minute the door is shut. If they shorten the session from LT to ST, then payout can be reduced accordingly. At least get 2 shots in to merit full payment. Just inform "sorry honey, that's the rules of the game". Short time work is short time pay. Long time work is long time pay. You will get a second shot sure. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain.
WestCoast1
09-11-16, 16:49
I have yet to go to the Philippines (coming soon) but why use an agency?
Just from simple search on the forum, I can tell you can just go outside (no games necessary), frequent a mall, hang out in the right spot or with some people on here, you can pick up a mamacita or two.All the methods you mentioned (frequent the mall, just go outside, hang around in the right spot -- what is a right spot?) can take time, and all can fail easily. An escort service, while expensive, will deliver quickly. Not everyone is wanting to 'hunt'.
CallSign Papa
09-11-16, 17:52
Not everyone is wanting to 'hunt'.Absolutely right. I'd suggest there is no right way of going about things. If you're time poor, or haven't the resources or wherewithal to cultivate contacts, agencies are no bad option (but you pay a premium price). If you have more time (or visit more than once) agencies feel slightly frivolous. I used Craigslist to good effect on my first few visits, which I'd suggest is more random in terms of quality / price.
Soapy Smith
09-11-16, 22:14
Quick summary for any noobs reading this: LA Cafe, also been called the Manila Bay Cafe / MBC in the past, is basically a regular bar where most of the female non-staff are "on the market" so no bar fines. That said, the girls are supposed to have a drink to stay there but I've never bought one for them (never stayed long! Thanks for the report Simmer. I had not been to LAC in four or five years, but went there one night in early August. Most of the reports here lately have bad-mouthed the looks of the women in LAC, so I was not expecting much. I was pleasantly surprised. Most were sort of average, as Simmer reports, but there were a few real lookers. Obviously it is possible the lookers were holding out for young Koreans, but several with whom I made eye contact certainly seemed to return my gaze. I came in accompanied by a Pinay, so that may have made me appear as a neutral rather than "interested" prospect. But there were clearly many more women than customers, in numbers much more pronounced than I remembered from the past. It did not seem to me like the waitresses were pressuring unaccompanied women to buy drinks.
At one point two young Korean guys (wearing small backpacks) came in and were instantly accompanied by at least four young, decent looking women. They were onto these guys almost as soon as they entered, and followed them and continued to crowd them and pitch them as they sat at a table next to mine. When the Koreans did not give them encouragement, these four left and two others took their place. One was quite stunning and persisted in pitching them for 20 minutes or so. I don't think she even got a drink out of them. After about 45 minutes the two Koreans got up and left the bar unaccompanied, and all the women settled back into their various table groupings of girlfriends.
Before the Koreans came in we had been joined by another Pinay who started joking about the popularity of Koreans. I asked her why they were so popular. She replied, "haven't you heard about three-three-three"? I do not usually promote this metaphor, since it strikes me as a little racist, but she eagerly volunteered it, and added, "it's true, I have experience. ".
We left with our new friend in tow and headed to G-Point. Mostly older women there, but obviously a less raucous meat market than LAC. We got a bite to eat, and later asked our new friend if she would like to join us back at our hotel. She agreed and we left about 11 pm. She ended up staying with us until late the next afternoon, probably partially because the monsoon rains were persisting, and we had AC, a comfortable bed (big enough for three), TV, and food. When she left she happily accepted 2000 pesos. She was not a stunner, but a little above average, large susus, a nice personality and very GFE.
I also poked around in Robinsons' Place Mall a few times. I literally saw no Pinays who made eye contact and none of the usual "Hello, sir (s). " I was struck by the numbers of empty store spaces in the Pedro Gil side of the mall. I was wondering if the influx of Middle Easterners and Asians is somehow affecting the attractiveness of the mall relative to other malls in the eyes of Filipinos. Just speculation on my part.
Quick summary for any noobs reading this: LA Cafe, also been called the Manila Bay Cafe / MBC in the past, is basically a regular bar where most of the female non-staff are "on the market" so no bar fines. That said, the girls are supposed to have a drink to stay there but I've never bought one for them (never stayed long!
Eventually another pair came in and I approached them. These were quite attractive, dressed in what I would call family night out dresses - pretty but not revealing. Grandmother would approve. They were called Joy and Jelly (or something), high school friends from Cavite. I thought late 20's or more but said they were 25 (couple of quick rapid fire maths questions backed this up, though obviously not conclusively).
CBJ on the bed; meh. More interested in DATY personally, and only one let me do it ("but not inside") by sitting over me. Wouldn't really let me get in close, only the clit. Shagged one with the other beside; switched to the other, but the first went off to the shower before I'd finished. Neither let me in deep. Finished, satisfied but not exactly thrilled with them. Cleaned up.
Afterwards they lay naked but sheets half covering them on the bed and proceeded to chat and text incessantly. Barely even acknowledged my existence! After about an hour of that with the TV on and only me watching (for the sake of something to do / watch) they announced they were leaving! But but but you agreed LT. Yessir but we need money, we want another customer. Honest I suppose. Tried resisting for a bit longer but realised it was futile. What's the point if they're unhappy. Let them go. This at nearly 1 in the morning. Receptionist phoned to check it was okay for them to leave. I've talked about the hotel in the Manila Hotels thread.
So, a bit crap really. Yes, I got laid but I'm feeling quite ambivalent about it. Ho hum, better luck next time!
My only experience with a twosome has cured me of any further interest. It was a few years ago at G-Point, and I ended up with a pair of nicelooking starfish who were just out on a fundraising night because one of them was about 5 months pregnant. Hand contact for a looong time. I can't recall whether I finally managed to screw the non-pregnant one, but it was not memorable if I did. Long story short, I noticed my camera was missing a few seconds after they left. I called the condo reception and amazingly they answered after only a middling wait, but it was in time to retrieve the camera and threaten calling police. Few days later the pregnant one was in the lobby as I left in the morning and begged me for some money, and then came back one other morning. Fat chance. Twosomes are often a vehicle for theft - one distracts you while her friend mooches around for something to pocket.
Twosome? I don't know why I wrote that! I probably meant having a pair of girls, thus making a threesome.
Anyway, the first time (ever) I did that it was great. The girls did not interact with each other but it culminated with one sitting on my face, the other bouncing on my cock. Both nice girls and pretty, and stayed to talk afterwards for quite a while. That was in Flight 168. Both the other pairs of girls were from LA Cafe. Think I've learnt my lesson now! I guess the risk with FL is no quality control or comeback if it's not up to scratch. I am going back to the safe, if slightly sterile, environment of FL168 this week. No guarantee but a better bet.
I walked past Amazonian and almost walked in to see it for the 1st time but when the door opened for somebody to come out I didn't see a single soul in the narrow angle of view so continued to LA Cafe.
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