Manila

[Turgid]

The psychology of the scam is that the guy wants to ingratiate himself with you. He wants you to think you're the best of buddies. It starts with a lie like "I work at your hotel. " All he needs is an entrance to getting a conversation going.....There are guys like that in one form or another all over the world. Prior to my knowledge of ISG I sometimes availed myself of their services together with taxi drivers and hotel workers in my pursuit of carnal delights during my travels. The worst I encountered was: "it seems as if girls are all working" whereupon an argument over payment would ensue with the guy complaining bitterly over my last offer given upon my departure. Most of the times I would partake of one of the offerings. Fortunately for me I was never robbed or worse as happened to a friend of mine in Colombia many years ago.

[Bushes]

I had to laugh because it is actually sales tactics taught and used in the US. Usually by TV satellite companies that start with a the. You find them all over the place, especially at big box companies. A couple dollars is small price to pay compared to a multiyear contract.

As with Turgid, I have taken their offer, eyes wide open, if I am new to a location. But only from hotel staff or taxi drivers whereby I have a picture of their license and car plates. For them to show me around, I am willing to pay for their time. The good thing is that this is not the Americas or Europe or Eastern Europe where you can really get reamed.

I know several visitors who were cheated. Some were really pissed off until I point out their loses or over payment were usually way under US100.


The psychology of the scam is that the guy wants to ingratiate himself with you. He wants you to think you're the best of buddies.

Another typical scam is a guy wants to help you find something. I had one of these in Robinson's hardware at the Ermita mall. I told him I knew what I needed and didn't need help finding it. .

[Soapy Smith]

There are guys like that in one form or another all over the world. Contrary to what some of his supporters on the forum might have you believe, Rodrigo Duterte has not stationed government employees at all the corners to help lead you to the 42 virgins. Here's a nearly universal law: A Filipino stranger who approaches you with offers of help does not really want to help you; he wants some of your money.

[BrainDrain]

Here's a nearly universal law: A Filipino stranger who approaches you with offers of help does not really want to help you; he wants some of your money.Agree that there really is no reason for a filipino male to approach me. If I need help then I ask.

Even a filipina that openly approaches me I treat with suspicion. A more subtle approach is treated more generously.

BD.

[Bushes]

LOL! Exactly what a WG once told me. I took some friends to LAC and was just playing tour guide so told a girl to go grab my friends' tools and not mine. She said they were not interested in her so wasn't going to approach them.


Even a filipina that openly approaches me I treat with suspicion. A more subtle approach is treated more generously.

BD.

[JamesBlack007]

After a nice afternoon with a tinder chick and a late meet up with a girl from badoo I headed to LA Cafe.

Dropped by around midnight last night "Thursday" and there were tons of beautiful ladies. In the past I'the Be pressed to find one. Last night was a smorgasbord, wish I took my time to choose but I hate sticking around for too long and usually pop on the first pretty face that smiles at me. (Shows she's a go getter).

Will be with some young locals at Valkyrie tonight for a birthday party, if I don't score one of them by midnight I look forward to making the trip to LA Cafe.

[WorldWideScout]

Here is a Q: Let's say you decide on ST from a girl in LA Cafe but don't want to take her back to Your hotel. I'm assuming there are no on-site facilities, right? A ST hotel next door?

[Bushes]

Most FL know where to go. Otherwise, there are several under USD50 family hotels in the area. Same with the Burgos area. If you plan to play, you can check in and use it multiple times. You can tip housekeeping to change sheets in between. Works even with name brand hotels.


Here is a Q: Let's say you decide on ST from a girl in LA Cafe but don't want to take her back to Your hotel. I'm assuming there are no on-site facilities, right? A ST hotel next door?

[JamesBlack007]

So dropped by LAC last night at midnight, many ladies like Thursday only two worth propositioning but didn't work out. Ended up with my third choice, not a looker in my books but a decent lay (didn't want to leave empty handed).

I guess for the weekend Fri. / Sat one must get there earlier in the evening.

Midnight is good for a Thursday but maybe 10 pm is better for Fri. / Sat.

[Dg8787]

I arrived at Terminal 1 and got a Yellow taxi to Makati hotel. We took the skyway and there was no traffic to speak of. Getting on to the skyway I noticed the meter was already past 200. I mentioned he had a fast meter but he said it was working fine. By the time we got to my hotel the meter was 675 pesos. I just patiently got my bags out and got the hotel guys to take my baggage inside then confronted the driver about the meter. I said usual charge was 250 and I would pay him that. He proceeded to argue about it and I dropped my offer down to 150.

Then he said he would take 250 and I told him that it was too late for 250. He argued a bit more and I decided to screw him and walked away. My last words to him was "you tried to screw me and now I am screwing you, you lost today".

[Mr Enternational]

I said usual charge was 250 and I would pay him that. He proceeded to argue about it and I dropped my offer down to 150.LOL. Looks like I wrote that post. When I am the buyer I do not negotiate up, I negotiate down from my original offer.

131 pesos from Ermita to Terminal 3 in an Uber the other morning.

[Dg8787]

By the way the Yellow taxi was number H-242.

[Soapy Smith]

Here is a Q: Let's say you decide on ST from a girl in LA Cafe but don't want to take her back to Your hotel. I'm assuming there are no on-site facilities, right? A ST hotel next door?Why not just take her back to your hotel? Do you expect to have a significant other or business partners with you? This seems like an odd question.

I notice you posted a number of short field reports from Colombia back in 2014, and then nothing in the forum until a lot of short, specific questions on the Philippines and Malaysia boards in January 2018. It might make sense to figure out your general plan--where you want your hotel, what distriict will you hunt, and so on--and then work out the tactics on the ground. For this question your best bet is to ask the girls at LAC. They will know the answer as well or better than anyone on this forum.

Within two and a half blocks are the Boulevard Mansion and Duck Inn. Boulevard is not short-time. Not sure about Duck Inn. You can google them. Maybe others know of other nearby lodging.

[Soapy Smith]

By the way the Yellow taxi was number H-242.You've shattered my total trust in yellow cabs. With white city cabs I have sometimes been tempted to call the LTFRB number posted on all the cabs. Has anybody else done that? With what results?

[PedroMorales]

Here is a Q: Let's say you decide on ST from a girl in LA Cafe but don't want to take her back to Your hotel. I'm assuming there are no on-site facilities, right? A ST hotel next door?Plenty of them in that vicinity. The female nuclear scientists, engineers and brain surgeons who frequent that fine establishment will know where each and every one is. Plenty by Robinsons Mall. Two of Manila's finest brought me to a mansion a few blocks heading away from Malate church (IE the other side of LA Cafe). As we entered, a rat bolted for it from inside. Not the best start of a romantic interlude but banging their little brown bottoms made for a pleasurable afternoon.

[Bushes]

Good for you if you have time to argue. By not paying anything, you could get in trouble. He could be in trouble also for overcharging, but the net result is usually the foreigner who pays with time or money. He now knows where you are staying and the kuyas are vengeful. IMHO, better to toss him 150 or 200 and walk away.


I arrived at Terminal 1 and got a Yellow taxi to Makati hotel. We took the skyway and there was no traffic to speak of. Getting on to the skyway I noticed the meter was already past 200. I mentioned he had a fast meter but he said it was working fine. By the time we got to my hotel the meter was 675 pesos. I just patiently got my bags out and got the hotel guys to take my baggage inside then confronted the driver about the meter. I said usual charge was 250 and I would pay him that. He proceeded to argue about it and I dropped my offer down to 150.

Then he said he would take 250 and I told him that it was too late for 250. He argued a bit more and I decided to screw him and walked away. My last words to him was "you tried to screw me and now I am screwing you, you lost today".

[Red Kilt]

Here is a Q: Let's say you decide on ST from a girl in LA Cafe but don't want to take her back to Your hotel. I'm assuming there are no on-site facilities, right? A ST hotel next door?I didn't bother responding because I thought all the "experts" on LAC would immediately weigh in but there was nothing.

Right next door to LAC is Brickstone Hotel. Literally 1 minute from the LAC door.

Clean and well-appointed rooms, similar to Eurotel. 600 php for 2 hrs during the day. Don't know the night rates.

The girls all know it of course.

[Dg8787]

You've shattered my total trust in yellow cabs. With white city cabs I have sometimes been tempted to call the LTFRB number posted on all the cabs. Has anybody else done that? With what results?3 months ago I took the Yellow taxi from T1 a Pasay hotel. As he left the airport I reminded him to turn on the meter. He acted like he did but didn't. At the hotel he said the meter must have broke and said 400 for about a 120 pesos fare. I got my bags out and had the hotel people take them inside. I paid him 150 and afterwards realized I was too nice about it. This time I wasn't.

2 times out of 2 trys and I am believing this is standard operating procedure again for Yellow taxis. I suggest we make this our SOP to patiently get your bags out and walk away if this happens to you.

[JamesBlack007]

Stopped by around 7:30 last night, (Saturday) not many ladies at that time, maybe 2-3 worth pursuing. Since I was staying in bgc the trip back was putting off the 2 ladies I would have taken. So note to why'all, stay near by for better luck.

Ended up leaving empty handed, was going to call it a night but decided to try Burgos. (Usually not my scene, the bars are too business for me and the street has too many people watching your moves) decided just to see what inside pickle bar looked like. Basically maybe 15 girls all in bad shape, mamasan said 5 k plus. Left right away.

Took a lap up and down the street and a freelancer caught my eye and said Hello, went back to bgc with her.

After Burgos chick left a previous working girl contacted me and met me in bgc.

Great night even though LAC came up short.

Was going to have Burgos chick come back to enjoy the pool, dinner and a lay today but needed to leave town for business.

Til next time.

I'll be in AC tomorrow (Monday) local chick freebie, dinner and a movie with a local (haven't laid yet) and if need be a quick lap in high society for a short time. Wish me luck!

[Bushes]

All taxis, especially airport ones, will try to rip you off. If they don't turn on the meter, I have them pull over and I get another one. But meters can be tampered with. I have been leaning towards Uber and Grab types because you get a better idea of the costs. I use contract or hotel services usually just to avoid the hassle after a long flight or trip. The amounts are tiny but it is just the feeling of getting ripped off. I was offered a ride into NYC for USD300 from JFK.


2 times out of 2 trys and I am believing this is standard operating procedure again for Yellow taxis. I suggest we make this our SOP to patiently get your bags out and walk away if this happens to you.

[Turgid]

.... I was offered a ride into NYC for USD300 from JFK.I just avoid these buggers and take the train. I prefer the hassle of the train to being ripped off. I try to always travel light. If Uber becomes ultra reliable I'll eventually sell my car as its preferable to driving.

[Chocha Monger]

Good for you if you have time to argue. By not paying anything, you could get in trouble. He could be in trouble also for overcharging, but the net result is usually the foreigner who pays with time or money. He now knows where you are staying and the kuyas are vengeful. IMHO, better to toss him 150 or 200 and walk away.Great advice and observation! Not paying for services rendered is theft and a criminal offense. The Yellow Cab receipt plainly states the amount for flag fall and the rate thereafter. It is not hard to calculate the fare using the distance of the route to the destination. There are even apps for that. Yelling at the taxi driver, jumping up and down in a rage and running away without paying him a single peso is foolish as it can lead to trouble that will cost much more than the disputed fare to sort out. Here is what happened recently to a fella who tried to run away without paying his taxi fare: http://www.philstar.com/cebu-news/2017/09/01/1734801/iranian-arrested-failure-pay-over-p2t-taxi-fare.

Sometimes, it is best to leave the need to "win" at everything back home. Some fellas are more interested in "winning" in the Philippines instead of fucking in the Philippines. The local prisons are full of foreigners who thought they were winning and the Filipinos were losing. High-strung winners should take a dose of Xanax on their flight and a dose of Viagra on arrival to put them in the mood to fuck instead of winning in a country where so many have little left to lose.

Next, some fellas are going decide not to pay the girls anything after fucking them because they wanted more than what the tricks normally pay. It is not going to feel like a win when some fellas show up for their flight home and discover there is a hold-departure order on their immigration record because they stiffed someone for services rendered.

[BrainDrain]

You've shattered my total trust in yellow cabs. With white city cabs I have sometimes been tempted to call the LTFRB number posted on all the cabs. Has anybody else done that? With what results?Lost an iphone in a white cab, had the rego, had the taxi number. Driver was unresponsive. LTFRB did zero.

It's a nice idea to call LTFRB. On the balance of probabilities do you think it would be underfunded, overworked and disorganised? The alternative is to be correctly funded, disciplined and using the latest technology.

I could imagine that an AI app could handled 98% of the LTFRB message but in reality there is going to be a handful of operators mishandling a barrage of messages.

BD.

[Soapy Smith]

Next, some fellas are going decide not to pay the girls anything after fucking them because they wanted more than what the tricks normally pay. It is not going to feel like a win when some fellas show up for their flight home and discover there is a hold-departure order on their immigration record because they stiffed someone for services rendered.Why not, you did? Do you remember your post from a few years ago, in which you described picking up two girls on Bugos, fucked them so hard that they ran into the CR crying and bleeding, and then kicked them out without paying? Oh yes, when they asked for taxi fare, you decided they only deserved trike fare. So if there was no hold put on your departure then, why should we believe there will be for us in 2018? Do you know of some changes in laws or enforcement from your back channel access to Philippine authorities? A few months after this particular post from you, another guy reported a Pinay who got really angry when he kept fucking her after she asked him to stop. You pointed out to him that what he had done constituted ra--. Given all the contradictions in your posts the only real unanswered question is, what the hell are you smoking?

[Kabul Guy]

Good for you if you have time to argue. By not paying anything, you could get in trouble. He could be in trouble also for overcharging, but the net result is usually the foreigner who pays with time or money. He now knows where you are staying and the kuyas are vengeful. IMHO, better to toss him 150 or 200 and walk away.I am of two minds on this issue.

Tossing him a pittance by our standards saves a lot of hassle, you can walk away for 200 p $US4 or spend time arguing, or spend a lot more if LE gets involved (they need their cut as well you know) or have some hassle later when the guy comes back with his buddies to talk about the issue.

Remember we are in an Asian culture where "face" is important. If someone with nothing else to lose loses "face" then they have nothing else to lose and everything to gain by regaining it, sometimes by violent means.

On the other hand tossing the 200 p just encourages it in the future.

I tend to take the pragmatic short term approach and just toss the extra money so I can walk away from the immediate problem because the long term is a more general issue than one of personal concern. I know it is passing the buck and not solving the bigger problem but even if I have to pay the 200 p several times a week, it is still a better solution than getting into one major hassle. I find as I spend more time here I am better at avoiding the 200 p problems so it is actually getting a little better.

[Soapy Smith]

I tend to take the pragmatic short term approach and just toss the extra money so I can walk away from the immediate problem because the long term is a more general issue than one of personal concern. I know it is passing the buck and not solving the bigger problem but even if I have to pay the 200 p several times a week, it is still a better solution than getting into one major hassle. I find as I spend more time here I am better at avoiding the 200 p problems so it is actually getting a little better.I think Reinhold Niebuhr had something useful to say about that. Seems to have application in many aspects of life outside 12-step recovery processes:

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference.

[Bushes]

Actually, DG thought the fare should have been P250. So tossing the taxi P150-P200 will still be in DG's favor while making his statement or point. To actually get an estimate is to do an Uber or Grab ride estimate. So DG doesn't lose any money but just actually get less of a discount on his "ride. " 100% discount is not the same as paying a premium to avoid trouble. We are only talking about paying USD4 to avoid trouble or taking USD5 in benefits or services.

Came across an interesting post on the Singapore and Dubai thread on paying real money to avoid trouble.

hhttp://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1013-General-Info&p=2136680&viewfull=1#post2136680


I am of two minds on this issue.

Tossing him a pittance by our standards saves a lot of hassle, you can walk away for 200 p $US4 or spend time arguing, or spend a lot more if LE gets involved (they need their cut as well you know) or have some hassle later when the guy comes back with his buddies to talk about the issue.

Remember we are in an Asian culture where "face" is important. If someone with nothing else to lose loses "face" then they have nothing else to lose and everything to gain by regaining it, sometimes by violent means.

On the other hand tossing the 200 p just encourages it in the future..

[Red Kilt]

All taxis, especially airport ones, will try to rip you off. Not at all true Bushes as has been repeated time and again on this thread by those of us who live here and use taxis ALL the time.

It's funny how we can go for 2 or 3 weeks or even 1 month on ISG without taxi stories at all and then suddenly we get a break-out of them.

You can be ripped off by taxis all over the world if you are not prepared for it. My good experiences with taxis is probably due to being proactive and aware of the scams (in Phils, Laos, Thailand and Mongolia). Although I don't agree with Bushes generalization (as shown above) I do agree with him that if the meter is not set at the start of the trip, get out and get another cab. Don't wait until he is 5 minutes into the trip.

[Wicked Roger]

Not at all true Bushes as has been repeated time and again on this thread by those of us who live here and use taxis ALL the time.

It's funny how we can go for 2 or 3 weeks or even 1 month on ISG without taxi stories at all and then suddenly we get a break-out of them.

You can be ripped off by taxis all over the world if you are not prepared for it. My good experiences with taxis is probably due to being proactive and aware of the scams (in Phils, Laos, Thailand and Mongolia). Although I don't agree with Bushes generalization (as shown above) I do agree with him that if the meter is not set at the start of the trip, get out and get another cab. Don't wait until he is 5 minutes into the trip.Agreed as I use the white ones from T3 and never been ripped off ever. I have never had issues in Cebu ever. In Manila yes a few times but asking to put the meter on or return to the hotel and ask to find another taxi works wonders.

I have has as much or more trouble in other parts of the world such as Africa and NYC.

[Bushes]

Proactive in the sense of telling the taxi driver the route to take is a way to let him know you are not a tourist. As in, don't xxxx with me. That and being aware of the scams, whether meters or faking amount of money handed over and the list goes on. Seen them all.

The meter and routing is key in the beginning and sets the stage. I am sometimes busy or preoccupied or tired and forget the routing in a known place and find the taxi going the long way. Usually I catch it and pay USD1 more but it eats at my pride. If I know the route and costs and the meter appears fast, I ask them to pull over and get another taxi; unless it is pouring rain, a typhoon, or steaming hot. But, as you would say, isn't that always?

For visitors, I always give them my address and suggested directions in English and the local language. Usually works but not always. Had a seasoned traveler who did need help but ask what the usual fare was to my place from the airport. He had paid 50% more and it ruined his week. I was like, it is only USD4 and you got to see some of the cities main attractions again.

It does not happen often, but I have had Uber email me and say my trip was too long and offer a future discount. I almost had a heart attack.

Maybe because of my age and forgetting to set the stage properly when getting into a taxi, I am having long routes and bill switches quite often in known locations. About once a month for the former and once a year for the latter.

Next time you take a taxi, pretend to be in an intense phone call in English and just give the cabbie a building or street address. See what the cabbie does. Make the corrections when he deviates but you will find that pretending to be a newbie tourist does tempt a lot of cabbies.


Not at all true Bushes as has been repeated time and again on this thread by those of us who live here and use taxis ALL the time.

It's funny how we can go for 2 or 3 weeks or even 1 month on ISG without taxi stories at all and then suddenly we get a break-out of them.

You can be ripped off by taxis all over the world if you are not prepared for it. My good experiences with taxis is probably due to being proactive and aware of the scams (in Phils, Laos, Thailand and Mongolia). Although I don't agree with Bushes generalization (as shown above) I do agree with him that if the meter is not set at the start of the trip, get out and get another cab. Don't wait until he is 5 minutes into the trip..

[Dg8787]

I am of two minds on this issue.

Tossing him a pittance by our standards saves a lot of hassle, you can walk away for 200 p $US4 or spend time arguing, or spend a lot more if LE gets involved (they need their cut as well you know) or have some hassle later when the guy comes back with his buddies to talk about the issue.

Remember we are in an Asian culture where "face" is important. If someone with nothing else to lose loses "face" then they have nothing else to lose and everything to gain by regaining it, sometimes by violent means.

On the other hand tossing the 200 p just encourages it in the future.

I tend to take the pragmatic short term approach and just toss the extra money so I can walk away from the immediate problem because the long term is a more general issue than one of personal concern. I know it is passing the buck and not solving the bigger problem but even if I have to pay the 200 p several times a week, it is still a better solution than getting into one major hassle. I find as I spend more time here I am better at avoiding the 200 p problems so it is actually getting a little better.I totally agree with you. It is not worth it to get in to a hassle for 200 pesos. I was just reporting the actual events and in no way am I telling anyone else to do the same.

Thanks for the actual experience replies. All others are just academic book learning and or hearsay.

I am only saying from my last 2 T1 Yellow taxi experiences that they were trying to rip me off again.

[WestCoast1]

Not at all true Bushes as has been repeated time and again on this thread by those of us who live here and use taxis ALL the time.

You can be ripped off by taxis all over the world if you are not prepared for it. My good experiences with taxis is probably due to being proactive and aware of the scams (in Phils, Laos, Thailand and Mongolia). Although I don't agree with Bushes generalization (as shown above) I do agree with him that if the meter is not set at the start of the trip, get out and get another cab. Don't wait until he is 5 minutes into the trip.Concur. Its rare that a driver pulls that no-meter trick, but it does happen sometime. You can refuse and step out, or if already underway he is required to take you back to your origin (if he won't, just step out at the next light or traffic stoppage). Lesson learned long ago: When traveling to / from the airport, make sure that your main luggage ends up in the back seat, not the trunk. If you must step out of the taxi, its much easier to get at your luggage in the cabin of the car than in the trunk.

I think the presence of Uber / Grab has made the metered guys more honest.

[Red Kilt]

Lesson learned long ago: When traveling to / from the airport, make sure that your main luggage ends up in the back seat, not the trunk. If you must step out of the taxi, its much easier to get at your luggage in the cabin of the car than in the trunk.

I think the presence of Uber / Grab has made the metered guys more honest.Good reminder WC.

I always put my bag in the back seat for that reason; I can get out when I want.

There is also the story reported some time back about a returning OFW who got out of the taxi at her destination and the driver sped off with her bags and pasalubong. He calculated that her stuff was worth more to him than the paltry fare that he missed getting. High risk if the OFW was able to get the cab registration and the story might be apocryphal of course but it made me think.

Certainly the Grab and Uber guys have changed the game a bit, especially around Makati and Ortigas where people are likely to have Uber / Grab contacts. Probably not so much around Malate / Ermita / Binondo but this is just an opinion from a regular taxi user.

[WestCoast1]

I always put my bag in the back seat for that reason; I can get out when I want.

There is also the story reported some time back about a returning OFW who got out of the taxi at her destination and the driver sped off with her bags and pasalubong. He calculated that her stuff was worth more to him than the paltry fare that he missed getting. High risk if the OFW was able to get the cab registration and the story might be apocryphal of course but it made me think.Related story from Jakarta. I went to a disco one evening about 11 pm to check out the FL, but didn't see any eye candy worth approaching. I left after one drink and jumped in the first taxi at the street (they were lined up). I mentioned the hotel name and off we went. At light traffic it should have been 6-8 minutes ride. Halfway thru I looked up from my phone and saw the meter was off and we were in the wrong part of town. I mentioned the meter to the driver, and at the next alleyway he turned (rather harshly) into the alley (crappy area) and drove a hundred meters down the alley and pulled over. He mentioned an exorbitant price to take me to the hotel (about $25). No, thanks guy, just take me back to the disco. "Get out". I looked around, it was very dark and a crappy place. A perfect place to drop off a bule to get rolled. No, thanks, not getting out. I continued to read on my phone. A minute later he told me to get out again. We sat for a good 3-4 minutes in silence, and finally he sped off. About halfway to my hotel he again pulled over the taxi and told me to get out (this time on a busy street). No, thanks. I told him that if he took me to the hotel I would pay him something, and if he took me to the disco that there was no money. I kept reading. Another 2 minutes of silence and he sped off, this time to my hotel (always appreciate your door security), driving too fast and swerving on purpose. When we pulled up he asked the exorbitant price again. I got out without paying and told the security guy who opened my door what the driver was asking. The driver and security guy argued and the security guy laughed, then asked me to give the driver the equivalent of $4 USD. Sure! Lesson learned: If you don't exit the vehicle, he cannot possibly get another paying customer.

[Free2]

Landed at Terminal 2 this AM. Philippine Airlines now gives every passenger a free Globe SIM card that you can put into your phone as you sit in the airplane! Nice touch.

Found a stray white taxi outside, negotiated 400 (down from 500) to Chinatown. The suitcase went into the back seat (great tip to propogate, never put it into the trunk). 400 php is a bit high but who gives a damn. It would have been nice if the driver just shut the f* up and didn't think he was a damn travel guide. Shut up and drive!

Getting the phone unlocked this morning, but had time to get a SW off of Rizal Ave, 21 years old, has 3 year old daughter, cute girl, from Rizal province who came into town to working girl herself out. Paid 1000, went to a ST hotel nearby for 160/ HR. Lame service though, she refused to give me a BJ or let me suck her nipples. Good to get the first release of the trip out of my system though!

I have 2 old standbys coming over soon. The repeat girls are so much fun!

[Bushes]

Unlike some on this forum, I like repeats.


I have 2 old standbys coming over soon. The repeat girls are so much fun!
Some drivers will not let you put a large suitcase or box in the back seat. One excuse that worked for me is that if the trunk cannot close, I tell them it is too risky to have the trunk tired down and open on the streets of Manila. I often use the front passenger seat belt to strap a bag down.

Like the OFW, many who have nothing or little also get ripped off. The OFWs are prime targets at the airports. Some get in late at night and have to wait to get to a bus or ferry terminal in the morning.


I always put my bag in the back seat for that reason; I can get out when I want.

There is also the story reported some time back about a returning OFW who got out of the taxi at her destination and the driver sped off with her bags and pasalubong. He calculated that her stuff was worth more to him than the paltry fare that he missed getting. High risk if the OFW was able to get the cab registration and the story might be apocryphal of course but it made me think.

[Red Kilt]

Like the OFW, many who have nothing or little also get ripped off. The OFWs are prime targets at the airports. Some get in late at night and have to wait to get to a bus or ferry terminal in the morning.That's the reason why the yellow airport cabs were introduced some years ago and the regular white metered cabs were banned from the airports. There was a spate of organized robberies of returning OFWs and visiting Koreans with lots of bags. The driver would take a "wrong" turn into a deserted area where his accomplices were waiting to offload all the spoils and terrorize the arrivals. I recall that on one occasion they torched the cab to make it look like the driver was a victim too.

It occurred so often that the regular cabs were banned and the yellow cabs were introduced so that theoretically, the authorities had a record of every departure.

I must say in all my years of using the yellow cabs I have NEVER had one try to rip me off (and I live here), either through fast meter or any other scam. It is high risk because you can call up the number on your receipt and speak to an operator. I had one driver ask me if I would call up the number and tell them how good his service had been, so someone must be taking notes at the other end.

[WestCoast1]

Unlike some on this forum, I like repeats.I have my share.


Some drivers will not let you put a large suitcase or box in the back seat.Nnnnnneeeeexxxxxttttt taxi!

[Bushes]

RK, try this on the yellow and street taxis, just for your amusement. Or take a taxi right outside a bar / disco.


Next time you take a taxi, pretend to be in an intense phone call in English and just give the cabbie a building or street address. See what the cabbie does. Make the corrections when he deviates but you will find that pretending to be a newbie tourist does tempt a lot of cabbies.
I must say in all my years of using the yellow cabs I have NEVER had one try to rip me off (and I live here), either through fast meter or any other scam. It is high risk because you can call up the number on your receipt and speak to an operator. I had one driver ask me if I would call up the number and tell them how good his service had been, so someone must be taking notes at the other end.

[Dg8787]

I text the oversight agency on the back of the slip of paper you get when you get the yellow taxi. To my surprise they responded within a few minutes. They asked for the receipt slip number and license plate of the taxi. I had texted earlier the date, time and details of the incident. I also reported the other incident months earlier but did not have the slip number nor the license plate.

Please keep the details, license plate number and other facts to make your reports.

BTW, I used the rates on the slip 70 drop charge and 4 pesos per 300 meters and calculated my rate would have been less than 200 pesos.

[GoodEnough]

This whole debate has served to remind me of why, when arriving in Manila, I invariably use the coupon taxis: never a hassle over rates or meters as they're all posted. In my 17 years of taking these taxis I've never had a problem.

[Bushes]

For various reasons, I usually use contract services through travel agencies or hotel transport arrangements. It is more expensive but it is not always on my dime.

I will add some of the taxis drivers are actually smart in that they suggest a route. It might be the long route but a newbie tourist would not know. Their defense will be the passenger agreed to the route.


This whole debate has served to remind me of why, when arriving in Manila, I invariably use the coupon taxis: never a hassle over rates or meters as they're all posted. In my 17 years of taking these taxis I've never had a problem.

[Wicked Roger]

This whole debate has served to remind me of why, when arriving in Manila, I invariably use the coupon taxis: never a hassle over rates or meters as they're all posted. In my 17 years of taking these taxis I've never had a problem.I do the same never take yellow from T3 only white and the rate is fixed to Makati plus I pay Skyway and never a hassle. I know the route also. In Cebu at Mactan the same.

[Betong]

This whole debate has served to remind me of why, when arriving in Manila, I invariably use the coupon taxisI'm finally coming round to this myself. I've always liked getting into a regular cab and finding that the guy is honest. And in a funny way I even enjoy it in the rare case (maybe once every 20 or 30 rides these days) when the guy tries something, whether subtle or obvious. Especially now with the LTFRB, you're not going to end up paying more than you should, and you may even get a free ride. I've had a couple. But all in all, it's time and energy better devoted to other things. So yes, I say get the coupon cab, pay the price, and enjoy the guarantee of absolutely no bullshit.

[Red Kilt]

This whole debate has served to remind me of why, when arriving in Manila, I invariably use the coupon taxis: never a hassle over rates or meters as they're all posted. In my 17 years of taking these taxis I've never had a problem.I thought you were a die-hard Uber fan GE judging by your posts last year. I am pleased to learn that you do actually tolerate the other taxi services.

As I have said several times here on ISG, I prefer to keep an open mind until I emerge from the terminal to see what the lines are like.

In 5 arrivals in 2017 at NAIA T1 I had instant connection with the Yellow cabs (no one ahead of me), so why would I choose to pay an extra 200 to 300 php to a coupon taxi when the yellow cab is sitting there.

Similarly for 3 arrivals at T3 in 2018, I have used the yellow taxis twice and the coupon taxis once (because the yellow cab lines were long).

As I said, play it by ear. If both coupon and yellow lines are long, then go to Grab or Uber as 3rd option.

There are no hard and fast rules.

[GoodEnough]

I thought you were a die-hard Uber fan GE judging by your posts last year. I am pleased to learn that you do actually tolerate the other taxi services.

As I have said several times here on ISG, I prefer to keep an open mind until I emerge from the terminal to see what the lines are like.

In 5 arrivals in 2017 at NAIA T1 I had instant connection with the Yellow cabs (no one ahead of me), so why would I choose to pay an extra 200 to 300 php to a coupon taxi when the yellow cab is sitting there.

Similarly for 3 arrivals at T3 in 2018, I have used the yellow taxis twice and the coupon taxis once (because the yellow cab lines were long).

As I said, play it by ear. If both coupon and yellow lines are long, then go to Grab or Uber as 3rd option.

There are no hard and fast rules.I'm an Uber fan when in the city. But from the airport to the hotel, I use the coupon taxis because there's no waiting, and no ambiguity about the fare.

[CasperStake]

Hanging out around Makati, decided the bars were a waste of money. I remember there being several semi-decent "fishbowl" type massage places in Manila. Are there any close to Makati P. Burgos region?

[Mogwai]

This whole debate has served to remind me of why, when arriving in Manila, I invariably use the coupon taxis: never a hassle over rates or meters as they're all posted. In my 17 years of taking these taxis I've never had a problem.I can understand why you are using the coupon taxis but OTOH: isn't it odd that you have to pay almost double prices just to avoid being hassled?
I mean, it's almost like saying to a driver beforehand: I pay you double because if I don't you will try to rip me off for the same amount anyway.

[Wicked Roger]

I can understand why you are using the coupon taxis but OTOH: isn't it odd that you have to pay almost double prices just to avoid being hassled?
I mean, it's almost like saying to a driver beforehand: I pay you double because if I don't you will try to rip me off for the same amount anyway.I never see it that way. For me is cheap so why quibble over say $5? Seems an odd approach given many pay a lot to get to the country and then boast about saving less than $5.

[WestCoast1]

I can understand why you are using the coupon taxis but OTOH: isn't it odd that you have to pay almost double prices just to avoid being hassled?
I mean, it's almost like saying to a driver beforehand: I pay you double because if I don't you will try to rip me off for the same amount anyway.That's close, but not always correct. Sometimes I take the coupon taxi because its closer, I don't have to bother checking if there are white or yellow taxis in queue, and its usually a larger SUV-type vehicle that I have to myself. Usually: recently at NAIA just as I emerged into the taxi area, a tout hollered a price for the higher-priced coupon taxi and I bit. He led me to a nice-looking large sedan and opened the back door, but there were already 2 other gents in the car waiting (it appeared to be a car-pool). I said no thanks. The tout led me back to an empty SUV, I confirmed the same price for the SUV and away I went. You see it, right? You can even get ripped off by the coupon touts. Its a ripoff because who would car-pool for $15 when you can have your own for $15? I pay the higher price for the coupon SUV because I don't want any of the hassles. Yes its nice to be able to say my white taxi cost only p180 to my hotel, but paying $15 to get me to my hotel quickly, quietly, and safely (and knowing exact price in advance) in the SUV is spit after a 15-hour nonstop.

Paying more for better service (or less-hassled service) is not new.

[Mr Enternational]

I can understand why you are using the coupon taxis but OTOH: isn't it odd that you have to pay almost double prices just to avoid being hassled?
I mean, it's almost like saying to a driver beforehand: I pay you double because if I don't you will try to rip me off for the same amount anyway.I am not as picky as some of the other guys. I would just assume riding to the hotel in a wooden cart pulled by a donkey.

Out of all the times I have been to PI only twice has a taxi tried to rip me off. Both were yellow taxis leaving the airport. Thanks to RTFF as well as being on that route before, I knew what the price should be. And I don't mind arguing with them. It actually spices up my day.

[Mogwai]

Paying more for better service (or less-hassled service) is not new.True. But in this case the service should be the same and pretty simple: driving you from A to be in a car via the fastest way without any hassle.
The SUV doesn't justify the double price compared to the 'normal' taxi's that are quite comfortable as well. Not for me anyway.

[Nolz7]

Hanging out around Makati, decided the bars were a waste of money. I remember there being several semi-decent "fishbowl" type massage places in Manila. Are there any close to Makati P. Burgos region?Essere Spa.

Nara spa.

Native Palm Spa.

Just to name a few, all in Makati.

[Transporter]

Hanging out around Makati, decided the bars were a waste of money. I remember there being several semi-decent "fishbowl" type massage places in Manila. Are there any close to Makati P. Burgos region?You can check manilatonight.com (some outdated but still might have a good previ of info).

As far as "fishbowl" spa, there just lineups.

The last "fishbowl" spa that I remember and still current is by the airport in paranaque flight 168.

[Free2]

Been in Manila since Tuesday. Took 1 of my regulars, her 3 month old baby, her sister, a friend and the mother to the hot springs in Laguna for a day trip. Lots of fun. Rented a room so I had private time with and when I wanted! (not the mom though). LOL.

5500 private driver from 7 am - 6 pm, including gas, tolls the works. Can't beat that. Well, maybe YOU can but I don't give a damn. Chauffered service while I fondle the girls in the back seat or sleep is fine with me.

Its great having Rizal Ave close by. When I want an immediate release, there is always a LBFM available (SW) ready to please. They ask for 1000ST. I give it to them. They sometimes ask for something (300 php) for the mamasan, some don't. Kamagong hotel is great for 1 - 2 HR stays. Some girls look real skanky, some are drugged out, I ignored those because I was always able to find (surprisingly) a normal, clean LOOKING girl who may as well have been picked up from SKOUT or something.

One night I got the tricycle driver to slowly prowl the 2 sides of Rizal Ave while I kept an eye out for a SW. I saw a slightly chubby (but not fat) 24 year old who looked sweet and very nicely dressed. After negotiating the mamasan down from 1500 to 1000ST, we start heading to the trike to go back to my hotel (not to Kamagong). Damn the mamasan wants to accompany the girl (which I hate).

When we get back to the tricycle, I see a skinny (like 80 lbs skinny) , roughly 21 year old girl standing right by the tricycle. I switch gears fast, offer her 1000ST, and tell her to get into the tricycle. The mamasan starts arguing with me, but I wave her off and tell the driver to go immediately. Without ID, the hotel guard just made her write her name and sign and all was good. Another time, a girl I brought (a regular) who had no ID, the guards just took a photo of her upon leaving to make them happy! No girl has ever been refused entry.

[X Man]

I am not as picky as some of the other guys. I would just assume riding to the hotel in a wooden cart pulled by a donkey.

SNIPSurely you'd have to pay extra for the "special" service.

Once I was switching hotels in Malate / Ermita area. While trying to get a taxi one of the pedicabs pulled up. He put the suitcase on the roof. A block later a car suddenly stopped in front of us. Pedicab driver had to quickly stop and the suitcase slid off and hit the back of the car. The driver of the car was a bit irate. No damage to car, nor suitcase. Another Manila adventure!

[Free2]

Great to pay a visit to LA Cafe around 6 pm yesterday. The cattle herd was abundant, lots of older herefords, but a nice number of younger, slim and very doable calves.

You got to love this place! I love the feeling that I am in the presence of debauchery. A mongers paradise. The waitresses are fun, especially the one behind the counter. 2 girls 'joined' me and I was whatever, go ahead and sit beside me. I get my food and when I am full and done, I offer the leftovers to them. They readily agree. After a while they ask for a drink. I say; "I bought you food, you can buy your own drink! Well, the waitress behind the counter heard me and laughed her ass off! The girls were embarrassed, but in true pinay fashion they don't get the point and keep asking. Ok, 1 coke. I wasn't planning to take either of them home, they were trying for me to take both for 3 k total. I ended up taking Samantha, 25, super skinny, (43 kg, stood on the scale in the hotel room). We walked back to the hotel, bought some SM Light (horsepiss) and she got a little tipsy on that which made her quite compliable. This one also decided on a cell phone as a gift instead of cash (said 1500), but she said she needed to go back to the bar for another client because a phone is nice but it doesn't buy you milk for your 2 year old son! I paid 2500 php for the phone on the street. Hey, BTW, I still have 1 more phone to give away for anybody wondering!

The food is surprisingly good at LA Cafe, I must say. Watch the little slips of paper though, not a big deal at all, but my waitress put down 95 php for the mug of draft when the menu says 90. She corrected it. I don't give a damn about 5 php but I don't want any of my fellow mongers or myself to be cheated!!

[Tungsten2]

Sometimes LAC can feel the most grotty dispiriting s*hole on the planet and other times like you say (even on the same day) it feels like it should be granted World Heritage status by UNESCO. They have food? I usually graze at the shawarma place just down the road.

[Transporter]

Sometimes LAC can feel the most grotty dispiriting s*hole on the planet and other times like you say (even on the same day) it feels like it should be granted World Heritage status by UNESCO. They have food? I usually graze at the shawarma place just down the road.Take a stroll upstairs at night.

The candy is a little better upstairs (but it comes with a bit more attitude).

But it is easier to enjoy your meal and drink upstairs.

[Onojdi]

Can someone update me about current price tags in Manila for bar girls, massage places and freelancer girls? I read many many pages in Manila and AC forums but didn't see what I was looking for. Or at least no in details. When I speak about current prices, I mean no bargains, just what the girl usually asks for a normal looking girl.

Few months ago I was at Pattaya and I found two type of "establishments" and one other way to have some fun.

1. Regular massage parlours with fish bowls. You enter, pick the girl then go to a good looking room, do your thing. But no nuru massage, just normal massage or bath thing. Is there nuru massage at Manila? And what the parlour will charge you?

2. I had a lof of fun at Soi 6 where there is a row of maybe 30-40 bars one next to another full of girls. You walk on the street, look at the girls, then pick one, have a drink if you want or just go upstairs and enjoy her asian body. Is there anything like that in Manila and for what price? In Pattaya it was 1300 bahts (around 35 euro) without the tip and drinks but I guess in Manilla you have to spend a little bit more.

3. Freelancer girls wanted 1200 - 2000 bahts short time (30-50 euro) depending of the girl and her abilities. What is the regular price in Manila.

[Soapy Smith]

Take a stroll upstairs at night.Or, take a break for 45 minutes or an hour. Go get some food at the shawarma place or some heavy, poor imitation European or Yankee food at G-Point. There are other cuisine options on the parallel streets, Mabini and Adriatico, and in Robinson's Place Mall. (I think it closes at 9pm.) G-Point has large portions, you won't be able to finish it, so take it out in a styrofoam box and give it so some begging kid along the street on your return to LAC. You will get back to LAC to discover that the scenery has changed, sometimes for the better, sometimes not. Plus, you'll be feeling good about yourself for handing the food to the poor kid, and your glowing attitude makes all the girls look prettier. Keep in mind that the "all the girls look prettier at closing time" dynamic does not occur at LAC, because they never close. You have to create your own placebo effect. Also, the fact that you're now smiling probably doesn't hurt in getting women to approach you.

[Soapy Smith]

The candy is a little better upstairs (but it comes with a bit more attitude).And often a higher price.

[Free2]

Was at G-Point last night. What a geriatrics special! All old white dudes, many with hearing aids. The woman are all over 40. Nothing wrong with either, but if you fit this description, this bar is for you. Waited 45 minutes for my food order and when I couldn't take it anymore, I paid for my beers and left for Yellow Cab pizza.

[Mr Enternational]

Was at G-Point last night. What a geriatrics special! All old white dudes, many with hearing aids. The woman are all over 40. Nothing wrong with either, but if you fit this description, this bar is for you. Waited 45 minutes for my food order and when I couldn't take it anymore, I paid for my beers and left for Yellow Cab pizza.Same deal at the end of last month. I paid for my 1 drink then headed off to LAC. They had the most uncomfortable barstools ever in history in G-Point. That is half the reason I left. The seat is tall as all get out and you have to be either a giant or a midget to put your foot on one of the cross bars.

[Soapy Smith]

I paid for my beers and left for Yellow Cab pizza.I like the pizza at Yellow cab and some of their other dishes. My only gripe with them is that they serve calzone (decent stuff) but without marinara sauce over the top. So the only moisture is inside and, for me, this just leaves it a little dry. I have had calzone in the states, Canada, Germany and France, and they all served it with marinara sauce. It has been about 50 years since I've been to Italy, so I don't remember whether they serve it with sauce.

Anyway, I have asked at numerous Yellow Cabs on numerous occasions whether I could get some warm sauce over the top of the calzone. It shouldn't be any big deal; just heat up a little side cup of pizza sauce or any of the other tomato sauces they use regularly. But they always insist they can't do it--not we don't know how to do it, but CAN'T do it. "Why not"? "Sorry sir, it's not on our menu. " I point out that in many Western countries it's served that way. "Sorry sir. " I offer to pay extra for the sauce. "Sorry sir, it's not on our menu. " I tried their calzone a couple times, couldn't coax any sauce from them, and so in subsequent visits always asked before ordering whether I could get sauce over the top. The answer is always the same, "we don't serve it that way," and so I order something else. I have had both calzone and stromboli at Sbarro's and other Italian places in the Phils, and getting a little marinara sauce over the top was never a problem.

Finally this past November I visited a Yellow Cab on Taft Avenue just north of Pablo Ocampo. My squeeze, her kids, and some friends were with me. Surprise, the manager, probably about 20 or 21, is a friend of squeeze's oldest boy. So I posed my question. "No problem, sir, we can do that. " The sauce came out nice and warm, served in a little plastic cup that some places use for serving gravy. The calzone with marinara sauce was great, and some other extras ended up on the table at no cost to us.

Okay, so this is a silly leave peeve, but satisfaction is underrated. It has brought back many cats that died from their curiosity. Free, next time you go to Yellow Cab, please consider helping out my cause with an inquiry about marinara sauce over the calzone. Thanks; I have it on good authority that you'll be going straight to Heaven.

[UsaInEurope]

My last night in Manila and I headed over to Cafe Havana. My Grab car (what a great service!) dropped me off at Greenbelt 3, headed across the mall, and found it right away, near Starbucks just as described. I was there at 8:30 pm and had some dinner. Quite good food. And had a couple of beer before the ladies started arriving. I wanted to make it an early night, so I didn't wait too long before a gorgeous girl sat at the next table. A smile and brief chat later we headed back to my hotel. Gretel was 24 and was very pretty with bleached blonde hair and a tight petite body (I would rate her an 8). I was worried she was too pretty for good service, but she seemed very friendly, and she ended up being excellent. DFK, lots of positions (my fave being doggie) and a top-ten BBBJ. The only minor downside was that she didn't like DATY. I was really happy with her. I found the girls at Havana to be prettier than LA Cafe for sure, but the prices are also higher. I ended up giving her 4000 for a quality ST.

Really appreciate all the good info from this forum. Hope to back again some time.That's quite an unfortunate name. Gretel.

[Hutsori]

That's quite an unfortunate name. Gretel.Better than Hansel, though.

[Free2]

When I arrived a couple weeks ago and I first saw one of my most reliable repeats, the first thing she does is show me a picture of her baby that looks quite new. I am surprised, she didn't tell me that she got preggy or anything. His eyes look a little slanted (not pinoy style, some other asian style), but a cute little guy born into this s*hole. First thing I am curious about is obviously, who is the daddy!? Yes, the baby is 3 months old now and I saw her a year ago. Mmmmmm. She has that down to a science. She tells me that we apparently had consensual relations Feb. 24/17. But just before that, on Feb. 21/17, she met her current pinoy BF (and banged for the first time) and they are still living together on again / off again. Is he the daddy, because the kid sure does not look white whatsoever. She says no, she does not think her BF is the daddy, because on Feb. 18/17, she and a friend went to some casino in Ermita and got picked up by a Japanese man who paid them 7000 EACH! She thinks her kid is from the Japan man! Hahahaha!! She has never told her BF and he thinks it is his kid. I saw him affectionately holding this Japanese baby with super slanted eyes. I am worried about when the kid grows up a little more and the gig will be up. It did boost my ego when she told me "I am soooo disappointed that it is not your baby!". (Yeah I am relieved also, my dear).

So, Mr. Rich Jap Man! You got a kid in Tondo. Send the mom 1500/ month could you, please? Send me the cash and I will make sure it gets to her (not that she asked for it) because you owe it to her! LOL.

[Simmer]

Anybody know of a massage parlor close to terminal 3 of MNL? Last time I wanted a quick relief before a flight I discovered Flight 168 / Starfleet were estimated to be an hour away (heavy traffic) and I won't have that much time. Thanks.

[UsaInEurope]

Going to Manila this weekend. Have a date for Friday night and Saturday night might be crazy. Girl agreed to go out to a bar to help pick up other people for group sex. No money discussed yet but sure that's coming at some point. Sure beats Burgos from what I'm reading (first time there).

[HotStud251]

Hi seniors.

Coming first tym to manila for fun.

Can you guide how to go abour.

Bars, pubs, independents etc.

Awaiting response thanks guys.

[Wicked Roger]

Hi seniors.

Coming first tym to manila for fun.

Can you guide how to go abour.

Bars, pubs, independents etc.

Awaiting response thanks guys.There is so much material on the Philippines board that a RTFF would give you a clue. When I first came to Manila years ago I did just that and fund lots of great information that I have built on. Why ask this question when RTFF is easy and 10-20 minutes wold give you so much info? I see you posted in India a lot where there are so many 'manager's (as called on the UAE forum) who just throw out questions asking for info / digits / contacts without contributing much.

Try RTFF first, see what you find, maybe ask clarifying questions via PM and then FR lots about your first time as things have changed since my first time.

This has to be one of the better forums for information to get answers to your general 'FR'.

[D Cups]

Absolutely incredible. If you can read, Stud, go back several pages.


Hi seniors.

Coming first tym to manila for fun.

Can you guide how to go abour.

Bars, pubs, independents etc.

Awaiting response thanks guys.

[Transporter]

Hi seniors.

Coming first tym to manila for fun.

Can you guide how to go abour.

Bars, pubs, independents etc.

Awaiting response thanks guys.I know everyone is going to say RTFF.

And yes it is absolutely true, the knowledge you get is infinite, however you could spend days reading page after page.

So I suggest you ask a very specific question and see if you get a quick response, not something general, or asking for output without input.

[Transporter]

Going to Manila this weekend. Have a date for Friday night and Saturday night might be crazy. Girl agreed to go out to a bar to help pick up other people for group sex. No money discussed yet but sure that's coming at some point. Sure beats Burgos from what I'm reading (first time there).Make sure to have backup plans. Lots are no shows, change mind or totally not acceptable (some even LBs).

Expect everyone to be late and not close to on time.

3 backups is what I usually go with.

[UsaInEurope]

Make sure to have backup plans. Lots are no shows, change mind or totally not acceptable (some even LBs).

Expect everyone to be late and not close to on time.

3 backups is what I usually go with.I told her 7 pm, hoping she's there by 9.

If that doesn't work then I have another girl that I already asked to meet me at a nearby hotel bar.

If that doesn't work then I just go to LA Cafe or something for a sure thing.

What I'd really like is to meet one of the girls and then in a couple weeks take her to Boracay or somewhere.

[Mr Enternational]

What I'd really like is to meet one of the girls and then in a couple weeks take her to Boracay or somewhere.Until you meet one of the girls and realize you wouldn't even want to take them 2 blocks to the closest Jolibee.

[SaltyPete]

USAinEurope, that has been my goal as well. For the last 5 years, (12-15 visits). Hope springs eternal.

[Bushes]

There have been several Western studies about families with children not having a genetic contribution from the father. It is not as rare as one would think.

I was asked to leave a deposit because the girl was having trouble getting knocked up despite the couple being checked out by the doctor. Go figure.


She has never told her BF and he thinks it is his kid. I saw him affectionately holding this Japanese baby with super slanted eyes. I am worried about when the kid grows up a little more and the gig will be up. It did boost my ego when she told me "I am soooo disappointed that it is not your baby!". (Yeah I am relieved also, my dear).

So, Mr. Rich Jap Man! You got a kid in Tondo. Send the mom 1500/ month could you, please? Send me the cash and I will make sure it gets to her (not that she asked for it) because you owe it to her! LOL.

[VictoryGuy]

I am in a hotel in Pasay. Looking for some genuine contacts for short time. Is it safe to have them in the room? Please give me some pointers.

[UsaInEurope]

So I've RTTF and have my gameplan for late arrival on Friday and Saturday date options with LA Club freelance fallback.

Sunday I don't leave until late in the afternoon and won't have a room anymore. I don't want a massage HJ. What are the best Sunday (church, ugh) morning / early afternoon on-site sex options prior to leaving?

[WestCoast1]

So I've RTTF and have my gameplan for late arrival on Friday and Saturday date options with LA Club freelance fallback.

Sunday I don't leave until late in the afternoon and won't have a room anymore. I don't want a massage HJ. What are the best Sunday (church, ugh) morning / early afternoon on-site sex options prior to leaving?Get a girl Saturday night for LT, and offer her extra to stay until 2 pm.

[X Man]

This doesn't answer your question, but you should also consider asking for a late checkout. Also, the Eurotel on Pedro Gil (south side of Robinson's mall) has hourly rates. I guess this would work best if you find a "keeper" as Westy suggested in his post.

BTW, Westy. Thanks for the pm.


So I've RTTF and have my gameplan for late arrival on Friday and Saturday date options with LA Club freelance fallback.

Sunday I don't leave until late in the afternoon and won't have a room anymore. I don't want a massage HJ. What are the best Sunday (church, ugh) morning / early afternoon on-site sex options prior to leaving?

[Transporter]

So I've RTTF and have my gameplan for late arrival on Friday and Saturday date options with LA Club freelance fallback.

Sunday I don't leave until late in the afternoon and won't have a room anymore. I don't want a massage HJ. What are the best Sunday (church, ugh) morning / early afternoon on-site sex options prior to leaving?As a third option and more of a sure thing (very good with being relatively on time) use a service. Just get online and do a search for escort and the area you are in.

[BrainDrain]

So I've RTTF and have my gameplan for late arrival on Friday and Saturday date options with LA Club freelance fallback.

Sunday I don't leave until late in the afternoon and won't have a room anymore. I don't want a massage HJ. What are the best Sunday (church, ugh) morning / early afternoon on-site sex options prior to leaving?Pay for a room extension or go to a smaller hotel. If near T1 NAIA I use Oyster hotel.

[Member #4558]

Makati is mainly my playground while in Phils (COD to some extents as well) so its been a while since I was directed to stay in the "slummy" areas of Ermita / Malate. I stayed at the New World (NW, nice hotel though in a bad area) and I thought "what the hell, why not downscale my mongering to a revisit to the LA Cafe (I presume it was called MBC last time I visited). Its a dirty but a straight shooter place filled with hookers. Since this was daytime it wasnt to crowded but a far number of hookers were present. I ordered myself a Jack and coke and scoped around.

Its not that you have to do a walk around yourself because if you just sit still girls will eventually stop by themselves to check out if you would fuck them. I am a bit of a wanderer so I went on and about to check out all the girls present and make a decision from that. I ended up asking a girl in a leopard dress if she wanted to have a Jack. She insisted on water but I managed to booze her up with a Jack. She wasn't to bad looking and the dress made her look hookerish in a naughty way. Just what I needed after a long flight into MNL. She wouldn't come forward as a hooker of course but the Jack loosened her up and she admitted she was there to fuck for money. We finished one more Jack, paid and headed back to NW. Didn't technically discuss the price but I let it shine through that I wasn't going to frame her by evicting her without a generous gift. That was the settlement.

Back in the room it was a shower BBJ to harden things up, then we did the fucking most places around the apartment. As I presume she was a hardcore hooker I admit I should have used rubber but in the heat of the moment I forgot about it (I mostly do). She stayed for two pops. She was quite tallish (5.4-5.5), round firm tetas which gravity didn't get hold of yet, age 23,1 baby but little to no baby damage. Only minus was she broke winds during the first session. After an intense couple of hours I let her free with 3 k well deserved php. She told me she would go home to her baby. It was still early afternoon so I took a stroll into Robinson's to scope for talent but even if there was a few girls around the entrance-/ starbuckarea who most likely would join me for some sexual action, they were to no interest to me. But there are obviously still hookers stralling around inside / outside Robinson mall.

Headed back to NW for late snacks, a shower and figuring out what to do in the evening. Was playing my rather long list of girls who I could contact but decided to close it down and just play the eve by the ear. I feel more comf in Makati so I booked a car from the hotel to take me to Glorietta. I hooked up with a friend staying at Ascott (the one above Glorietta mall), lucky guy, and we headed for Havana Cafe. Also been a while since I was there so nice to also have a reunion with this hooker pickup place. We arrived 9 pmish. Mixed crowd as usual so we ordered a bottle of vodka with extras redbull / coke / sprite / orange juice. As a tactic ordering in a btl of booze is a nice icebreaker as it is easy to treat girls a drink or two (yeah I know you don't need it to play hookers) along with it being the easiest way to get a few drinks down (don't have to wait for any waiter / waitress) - freedom.

Mostly old girls alone at 9 pm a Wednesday eve mixed in with real couples or singles just having dinner. At 10 pm girls start arriving and a few of them good looking. Dividing "naughty" from "good" girls is rather easy as hookers will eyeball you in a way which can not be mistaken. If girls don't make eye contact I consider them a no go. At least in a hooker place. Late in the eve most regular couple, regular girls are gone anyway and just seedy girls are left.

So what happens next, yes, the girl from LAC arrives. Now dressed up Makati style (nicer dress, less hookerish, to blend in with regular girls in a way style). She sees me and I break into laughter which she sees and walks over. I ask if she's at her night shifts and she nods the affirmative way. She was much more attractive doing the Makatistyle by the way. We sat her and her friend down and boozed them up. Friend wasn't much to look at (my subjective meaning) but since my friend is an easy target and not so occupied who he puts his dick inside (not gay), he took my nightshift girl back to Ascott. I took my dayshift girl. She was amongst the top ones at HC anyway. Back to NW (my friend fixed a private car from Ascott. Due to long taxi lines).

So I know its been debated before as LAC girls frequent also other places. They just changes style. Now I know this for a fact.

[UsaInEurope]

Thank you for your responses -- I will definitely ask for a late checkout. That daytime / nighttime post was good too. I'll report back.

[Bushes]

Nice report. It is funny because you do see familiar faces over the years. I once meet a Filipino at 2 A at a bar and then at 9 A at an airport. Since I turned her down at 2 A, I asked her at 9 A if she wanted to have a go? Went to the lounge and had a pre-flight session in the bathroom.

Havana is closer to me but for some reason, I don't go there often. Will have to add it on list.


So I know its been debated before as LAC girls frequent also other places. They just changes style. Now I know this for a fact.

[Macho Dik]

Dear All,

Sorry for being away for a while.

Plan to visit Manila. Booked at AG Manila Bayview Hotel.

This time, want to meet mainly DIA girls. Have been in chat these recently with them before the day of my arrival.

I can categories them into 2 group:

1) money & only money:

Girl A: when you come?

Me: soon darling.

Girl A: can you send me some money, I need to travel there to meet you, I don't. Have money now.

Me: sorry, I will only give you the money when we meet then.

Girl be: my occupation is Massage, what massage tou prefer? Swedish or Thai.

Me: do you give happy ending?

Girl be: no sir, I only do massage. 500 pesos / hour.

Me: ok, can you come and stay with whole night.

Girl be: Yes sir, I can do that.

Me: ok, so your menstrual period is over.

Girl be: yes, sir, by the time we meet, period is over.

Girl be: sir, I am stress, my son need to see doctor.

Me: oh, sorry to hear that.

Girl be: You know a fucking guest want extra service, I told him I only do massage.

Me: oh, so what you think?

Girl be: I won't agree but I am stress. Can you send me money so I will make sure not to accept this clients.

2) this group are girl, never ask anything about money but they want to meet me and hoping for a relationship.

Well much wonders how you guys experience with girls from DIA or pinalove etc?

Cheers,

MD.

[Kabul Guy]

....
What I'd really like is to meet one of the girls and then in a couple weeks take her to Boracay or somewhere.I have had good luck on longer setups on SA. The girls there do not appear to be all pro's lots of regular girls looking for a foreign BF.

[SaltyPete]

This time, want to meet mainly DIA girls. Have been in chat these recently with them before the day of my arrival.Spoiler alert. You are going to be disappointed. Make sure you have a back up plan for fun.

[Simmer]

I am in a hotel in Pasay. Looking for some genuine contacts for short time. Is it safe to have them in the room? Please give me some pointers.LA Cafe or EDSA Entertainment Complex (Center?) might be your closest reliable spots.

By all means take them to a hotel but lock your stuff up.

[Macho Dik]

Spoiler alert. You are going to be disappointed. Make sure you have a back up plan for fun.Thanks!

Yes, I have back up plan either going to EDSA complex or La cafe. Those chicks asking for money, I already removed them from the list! Only couple of girls that didn't tak about money before hand are the group for me to explore. But in case all goes nothing then will go with la cafe or edsa girls.

My plan is paying php 1500 to 2000 for la cafe girl and damage for edsa conplese will be Php 3000 + php 3000 for girl. Will this be workable? And all will be LT fee.

Any idea?

By the way, I phoned AG Manila Bayview hotel about extra occupancy, they said as long as I booked double them good for addin one other than me. . I am not sure if they are girl friendly or not. Anyone can share ideas?

[SaltyPete]

My plan is paying php 1500 to 2000 for la cafe girl and damage for edsa conplese will be Php 3000 + php 3000 for girl. Will this be workable? And all will be LT fee.
I haven't been back in about 6 months, but in EDSA the bar gets 1950 php and the girl asks for 2500-3500ST, 4000 LT (if you can find a girl that does LT). That is before lady drinks and parasitic fees (on-site food for starving gogo dancer, mamasan tip, rip-off taxi waiting out front, "guy in men's room who hands you a wash cloth" tip, "guy who opens a taxi door for you" tip, etc). Have a lot of 20 php notes on you.

You will see a newer complex to the left of EDSA Entertainment as you look at it. Avoid it. Same quality girls but higher pricing and very aggressive Mamasans and Papasans.

Let us know how it goes!

[Macho Dik]

I haven't been back in about 6 months, but in EDSA the bar gets 1950 php and the girl asks for 2500-3500ST, 4000 LT (if you can find a girl that does LT). That is before lady drinks and parasitic fees (on-site food for starving gogo dancer, mamasan tip, rip-off taxi waiting out front, "guy in men's room who hands you a wash cloth" tip, "guy who opens a taxi door for you" tip, etc). Have a lot of 20 php notes on you.

You will see a newer complex to the left of EDSA Entertainment as you look at it. Avoid it. Same quality girls but higher pricing and very aggressive Mamasans and Papasans.

Let us know how it goes!Thanks for the feedback!

Will let you guys knows my report.

As Edsa conplex & La cafe is my alternative option in case DIA girls fuck up. But presently I am in contact with a non pro, may be she really a genuine non pro as she said she is working as sales lady in a mall. Never talk to me on any thing related to money stuff but starting to hint me not wanting seeing me sign in at DIA, send me photos and been on chat consecutively, also willing to stay with me at my hotel.

Now, I got another one that willing to also meet me and pretty sure will stay with me. In fact I am worry if both girls will be overlapping later on with my schedule. If they know I stay the same hotel, will it be suddenly they come by again while I got the other one with me then? My mistakes I told them I stay in which hotel and how many days of stay.

Any advise? I wanted to try both of them but worries this scenario may happened just in case one of them come back while the other is with me?

Cheers,

MD.

[Mr Hawaii]

Thanks for the feedback!

Will let you guys knows my report.
Now, I got another one that willing to also meet me and pretty sure will stay with me. In fact I am worry if both girls will be overlapping later on with my schedule. If they know I stay the same hotel, will it be suddenly they come by again while I got the other one with me then? My mistakes I told them I stay in which hotel and how many days of stay.

Any advise? I wanted to try both of them but worries this scenario may happened just in case one of them come back while the other is with me?
MD.Is it too late to call / text them and tell them of your sudden change of plans? I usually make my plans 4 to 6 months in advance, including hotel reservations. But, when it comes to telling my (your) prospects when you will be in Manila, best to say, "I'll try to be there on (date) . I am also going to Korea and not sure of the dates yet. " Or use Thailand, Japan, etc. You don't say what hotel you will be at, but very few girls live close enough to the hotels to lie in wait for you. And hotels generally do not let women go to rooms unescorted. Also, when you are with the first one, you can say you are leaving unexpectedly the next day, or Friday, etc. She will think you are leaving and won't come back to the hotel. Tell the front desk you do not want any calls, and not to release any information. Hope that helps.

[Macho Dik]

Is it too late to call / text them and tell them of your sudden change of plans? I usually make my plans 4 to 6 months in advance, including hotel reservations. But, when it comes to telling my (your) prospects when you will be in Manila, best to say, "I'll try to be there on (date) . I am also going to Korea and not sure of the dates yet. " Or use Thailand, Japan, etc. You don't say what hotel you will be at, but very few girls live close enough to the hotels to lie in wait for you. And hotels generally do not let women go to rooms unescorted. Also, when you are with the first one, you can say you are leaving unexpectedly the next day, or Friday, etc. She will think you are leaving and won't come back to the hotel. Tell the front desk you do not want any calls, and not to release any information. Hope that helps.Thanks pal for the nice guidelines. Yeah, I think that will be the best alibi. Well, it's only. Short three night stay so hope to make the best out of it.

Will give La Cafe a visit, to supplement some sudden vacancy then.

Hope to enjoy Filipina pussy this short stay in Manila.

Cheers,

MD.

[SaltyPete]

Thanks pal for the nice guidelines. Yeah, I think that will be the best alibi. Well, it's only. Short three night stay so hope to make the best out of it.

Will give La Cafe a visit, to supplement some sudden vacancy then.

Hope to enjoy Filipina pussy this short stay in Manila.

Cheers,

MD.It isn't too hard to fake an intestine problem in Manila to get some time away from a girl (no questions asked). Pretty good chance you won't have to fake all of it.

[Sammon]

Is it too late to call / text them and tell them of your sudden change of plans? I usually make my plans 4 to 6 months in advance, including hotel reservations. But, when it comes to telling my (your) prospects when you will be in Manila, best to say, "I'll try to be there on (date) . I am also going to Korea and not sure of the dates yet. " Or use Thailand, Japan, etc. You don't say what hotel you will be at, but very few girls live close enough to the hotels to lie in wait for you. And hotels generally do not let women go to rooms unescorted. Also, when you are with the first one, you can say you are leaving unexpectedly the next day, or Friday, etc. She will think you are leaving and won't come back to the hotel. Tell the front desk you do not want any calls, and not to release any information. Hope that helps.4-6 months before? It is ok for flight and hotel. But not for setting up a fuck date. Many things change in your life as well as in a girls life. Both of you will meet other people who will be more interesting. My plans take shape only after I land in Philippines. Unless if it is a GF from before.

I have had best results by trolling DIA moment I am in my hotel. Once the girls know you are in town they are more eager to be with you. If they have not done this before they may want to meet you at a mall or some other place. Usually they will bring a friend and you are expected to treat them for food. After that if the girl likes you she will ditch her friend and come with you. No finances will be discussed.

If the girl has done this before she will come to the hotel. In such cases I always discuss financial arrangements.

If all else fails hit the venues where you can pick up a girl.

[Kabul Guy]

It isn't too hard to fake an intestine problem in Manila to get some time away from a girl (no questions asked). Pretty good chance you won't have to fake all of it.There was a poster here a while ago who used to tell them that he was here on business. If the morning girl was good, afternoon girl got text that business meeting went longer. If not then he kept the meeting. Same for afternoon and evening girls. He re-books any girls who he could not see because his "business" meeting went too long.

Personally I think that that helps the girls justifying being late and not showing. I just book one a day in advance and then look for a pickup or a short notice date if I need to.

[CallSign Papa]

Personally I think that that helps the girls justifying being late and not showing. I just book one a day in advance and then look for a pickup or a short notice date if I need to.I've tried all kinds of scheduling systems, from preplanned blocks of time to "adhoc, let's see how it goes", but one thing remains constant. The unreliability of the average pinay.

These days I just use a ranking system, any girl in tier 1 gets to be as late as they like as long as they show, tiers 2 and 3 risk getting bumped if they don't show up on time.

[Macho Dik]

Thanks for all of your feedback.

I have eliminate again 2 girls from DIA contact as I can see they are too pushy to asked some money to help them with whatever fake reason such as paying rent, streesfful of her son's sickness etc.

Now I still keep one girl, a sales lady that chat with me everyday and still not asking some money or even talk about it. But the downside is she seems to hoping a true love, she even closed her account for me. Basically, this one should be good at GFE, but the problem is she means real, I think this already closing my red line in mongering. I prefer service for payment than service for relationship, may be taking advantage and have a GFE for my short stay with a natural pinay will be an experience but after that? I think that is what I have to reconsider seriously.

I mongers but doesn't. Want to hurt someone feeling. May be I am wrong, thinking too much?

Cheers,

MD.

[Goferring]

I mongers but doesn't. Want to hurt someone feeling. May be I am wrong, thinking too much?

Cheers,

MD.MD, can I suggest you compare my two posts on trying to plan ahead on the chat sites vs just turning up and reeling in the girls.

I'm In Davao now battling missed appointments, no shows and undisclosed ladyboys after starting to get numbers 2 months ago.


So, after being the flag waver for online P2 P I hit a snag when I arrived in Davao. Looking back I think I made two fundamental errors. . . .Contrast that to my introduction to the sites when I just arrived in Cebu and started having fun:


This is intended as a review of a virgin's introduction to PinaLove rather than a review of possible activities in Cebu. . .Don't get me wrong, I'm still having fun here but it was way less work and simpler simply arriving in Cebu and starting then.

If it helps, I also have a post on what a girl told me they look for in guys profile. Have a search and see if it is of value to you.

Have fun.

[Tagalog2016]

Thanks for all of your feedback.

I have eliminate again 2 girls from DIA contact as I can see they are too pushy to asked some money to help them with whatever fake reason such as paying rent, streesfful of her son's sickness etc.

Now I still keep one girl, a sales lady that chat with me everyday and still not asking some money or even talk about it. But the downside is she seems to hoping a true love, she even closed her account for me. Basically, this one should be good at GFE, but the problem is she means real, I think this already closing my red line in mongering. I prefer service for payment than service for relationship, may be taking advantage and have a GFE for my short stay with a natural pinay will be an experience but after that? I think that is what I have to reconsider seriously.

I mongers but doesn't. Want to hurt someone feeling. May be I am wrong, thinking too much?

Cheers,

MD.I would suggest you to read at least 2 last pages of neighboring thread "Chat Rooms & Pen Pals" to get some more information regarding pinays, before to make ungrounded conclusion that she is a good girl, just because she claims, she wants long term relationship.

As was told few times before, Filipinas could be divided into two groups. First are straightforward and ask money for sex right away. Others are more sly and they are willing to wait for weeks, months or even year (s) to get your money. No matter whether she is from the first group, or from the second one, you should always keep in your mind, that 99% of pinays are WG, who are primarily interested in your wealth.

Before you physically met her and got to know her closer, you should admit, that you know absolutely nothing about her. You just know, what she tells you about herself and what she wants you to know, but the reality might be much more harsh then you can expect. She might have pinoy husband, or BF. She might have one, two, or several sugar daddy sponsors, who provide her and who come to Philippines just twice or thrice per year to fuck her. She might meet other mongers just with fucking purpose, while she still claims you, she is a good girl and she wants you to marry her. You never know, and you shouldn't conclude anything just based on your virtual communication.

WTF should you feel any remorse about fucking her, when she sees in you just as a source of her income in the first place? Go and fuck her and never regret. But remember two golden rules you should obey if you want to be fine:

1. Never ever give her any money. Not a single peso for whatever reason. She will enjoy sleeping in air conditioned room, enjoy eating good food at a restaurants, enjoy travelling, if you decide to take her somewhere. That is enough. In exchange she will give you her pussy. That is a fair deal, but no additional money or presents for her should be involved in that deal.

2. Don't fall in love with her. Pinays are used to say a lot of sweet words, which may sound convincing. But in fact they don't mean what they say. Her only one aim is to get your guard down, so that to get your money. She might wait for months, or even years to win a jack pot. She might be truly faithful which could mislead you, but even if that is so, remember that she wants not you, but your wallet. Perhaps, she wants a sponsor, who will provide her on a constant basis. Perhaps she dreams about living in a foreign country, which enables her to provide her big family, including cousins, brothers and sisters in law at your expenses.

That said, pinays are not monsters. They can give you very quality GFE, if you follow above mention rules. You can have a great time with her, but don't mix up GFE with real relationship. It is not, because if it is driven by financial interest, sooner or later it will lead to something bad. It is just a game for you and for her. It could be called deal, but not a relationship. Go, fuck her and never feel remorse.

[Mr Enternational]

Looking for a hotel for my stay in Manila in a couple of weeks. Reading through the reviews of one place and guess what one unfavorable review says:

Got picked up at the airport via shuttle and was charged $70.00 with the driver asking for a tip for his family. Very rude front desk staff who confused me for a local. The front desk security found me at the mall and asked me for a donation for his son's birthday, though no party being held. No room cleaning service for 4 days so I ended up buying new bath towels for myself. When I called house keeping I was told that my room was not a guest room*.

[UsaInEurope]

What a fucking city.

Land at 9 pm on a Friday, at my hotel by 10, head straight to Cafe Havana. This place is just odd -- a legit bar / restaurant with band and outdoor seating for food. Get a beer and the obvious hookers stare at me but don't do anything then play shy when I talk to them. Dumb game. So I go outside and order food. This smoking hot curvy babe in a tight white dress walks by a couple times and we make eye contact. It was all I could do to get her to sit down -- "I'm with my friends. " "Are they guys?" "No. " Then took forever to get around to her admitting she's working, all the while she's shifting around and wringing her hands. Kicked her out the minute she started at 7000 and laughed when I said 3000 tops.

Blahblahblah more of the same shit.

Finally found a girl comfortable in her own skin and with what she's doing -- the rest are fucking wackjobs. Smoking hot spinner with a vanishing waist, curvylicious huge bubble butt and nice see cups. What a body!! Tight dress with vents all the way down both sides. No panties! She started at 5000. I said 3. Ended up at 4. Upper end of the RTTF 2500-4000 range but it was late, I was horny, and she was fucking all that. Walked to 7-11 for beers and hung out in my room naked flirting, watching her dance, a bit of oral, beer, flirting, etc. Nice to have an experience and not just enter / strip / fuck / leave. Best BBBJ I've ever had -- super deep throat, choked on it, spit up after all over my cock, dove right back on it for more. Hungry little *****.

Flipped her over to finally put it in and she freaked. Pinay supposed to love bareback but she would. Not. Have. It. At all. No convincing otherwise. So put the cover on and banged her doggy, regular and reverse cowgirl, mish with legs down the bed, then the finishing move was her knees by her head and parallel to her body (flexible! Me just jjack-hammering her with my whole body almost all the way out of her then pounding her (think randy savage off the top rope belly splash) again and again. Full body on body slapping. Cock ramming the back of her pussy. Came deep in her, unfortunately in a rubber.

Girl can take a beating.

Then more beer and good night.

4000 php.

Megan. I think she goes on social by MeganSweetness.

Kicked her out, tried to sleep. Phone rang. Hotel wouldn't let her out unless I said I was ok. Said I was and not to call back.

Fucking city.

[UsaInEurope]

Or not.

Woke up and wanted to see some sites, so did the fort and intramuros. Ended up at LA Cafe around 1-2 pm looking for poon.

Man these girls are a hot fucking mess.

They smile at me and I wish they didn't.

Look my way and I avert my eyes ASAP.

They're all a bit "off:

- Skinny girl with big belly.

- Nice big booby girl with way too much everything else.

- Decent body girl with teeth sticking straight out towards me.

- Anemic girl who makes a toothpick look overweight.

And the worst was while trying to find a diamond in the rough, a group of japs sit behind me and every girl in the place surrounds the table -- must have been 3 deep -- pushing me out of the way.

Well if that's how management likes it then they're not getting any more of my beer / food money.

Hightailed it to Zubuchon for some of the best roast pork I've ever had.

Had lined up for the night:

- Girl 1: Talking for a week, going to go out and pick up another girl and have an epic evening and I was going to definitely make it worth her financial while. Text at 7 pm: My friends dragged me to Angeles. Fucking ****.

- Girl 2: Talking for 5 days, planned to meet at a Makati bar. She ended up going to Q City or some bullshit. Fucking ****.

- Girl 3: Lived in Makati, talking to for 3 ish days. Definitely seemed excited to meet (as did all of them as we talked about shopping, dinner / drinks and fun). Heard nothing.

Best laid plans.

So didn't feel like Havana again. LA Cafe sucked. I didn't really want to go to Burgos and get a bar girl (way too fucking expensive even though I like bar girls). Went to a couple clubs and oogled the hotties. Wanted stupid amounts of money. Played one for long enough just talking that she rubbed me to cumming in my boxers. Not even a drink bought. That was in Plan be in one of the side booths. Stupid girl was straight off the bus 2 days prior from some province. Thanks, honey.

Bathroom, ditch boxers, good to go.

Wander down the way and there's the Ringside Bar. Definitely NOT OK (tm liberal american) things happen there. Dwarf boxing, tag team dwarf oil wrestling, girl boxing. But what the hell. Had a couple drinks and sat with a REALLY COOL CHICK and we bet 20 php on matches, groped around a bit, shot the shit and loved her because a) her shit was all hanging out everywhere and b) she didn't beg for a drink not even once. Her friend sat on the other side of me and constantly whined for drinks and I told her to shut the fuck up and leave me alone with her bitching. I think REALLY COOL CHICK got the message.

[Mr Enternational]

Man these girls are a hot fucking mess.LOL. Man I like your style.


Had lined up for the night:

- Girl 1: Talking for a week, going to go out and pick up another girl and have an epic evening and I was going to definitely make it worth her financial while. Text at 7 pm: My friends dragged me to Angeles. Fucking ****.

- Girl 2: Talking for 5 days, planned to meet at a Makati bar. She ended up going to Q City or some bullshit. Fucking ****.

- Girl 3: Lived in Makati, talking to for 3 ish days. Definitely seemed excited to meet (as did all of them as we talked about shopping, dinner / drinks and fun). Heard nothing.

Best laid plans.We warned you that you couldn't depend on those internet broads! All that time hunting online up in smoke.

[Soapy Smith]

Looking for a hotel for my stay in Manila in a couple of weeks. Reading through the reviews of one place and guess what one unfavorable review says:

Got picked up at the airport via shuttle and was charged $70.00 with the driver asking for a tip for his family. Very rude front desk staff who confused me for a local. The front desk security found me at the mall and asked me for a donation for his son's birthday, though no party being held. No room cleaning service for 4 days so I ended up buying new bath towels for myself. When I called house keeping I was told that my room was not a guest room*.I think there is something amiss here. Despite numerous hotel stays throughout Metro Manila for me, and many, many reports from others here in ISG, I have never heard any reports of hotel experiences like this--except for the doorman meeting at the mall. Obviously if they guy subscribed to ISG and read the Manila thread, he'd have seen through this particular scam.

[CallSign Papa]

Best laid plans.Really? You're in Manila, having presumably read this thread properly to understand how reliably unreliable pinays are and you only organized three girls?

For a first meeting, over two days in Manila you need 10 - 15 ready to go minimum, and none of those will make it at the right time. And at best 5 will show at all. If you've met them once already they'll generally show up when they say they will (give or take 2 hours).

[Macho Dik]

I would suggest you to read at least 2 last pages of neighboring thread "Chat Rooms & Pen Pals" to get some more information regarding pinays, before to make ungrounded conclusion that she is a good girl, just because she claims, she wants long term relationship.

As was told few times before, Filipinas could be divided into two groups. First are straightforward and ask money for sex right away. Others are more sly and they are willing to wait for weeks, months .Thanks for advise pal!

Yeah, I understand Filipina girls have so many types, in fact I would rather wish to have a real hot girl or even students to tell me straight they need money for service render that for me the best group ever.

Back to this sales lady, let's see what she up to. If I scented this is for a long time investment she put on me in these short stays then after the deeds, will deleted all chatting plateform with her. Don't want to established relationships.

Your are right "GFE" is no "relationship". They always telling better pay than pay later.

By the way, along with my charting with the "sales lady" , I once ask her, Honey, you wish me cum inside you or outside? SL: honey, you cum outside, I am afraid. ME: afraid of what? SL: pregnant, honey!

Anyway, even I saw her working at the mall and even provened she was there, I don't think would like to fuck a girl just met on the sites and laid down for me after first meeting without using cover. I heard a lot of call center girls are infected with HIV.

Cheers,

MD.

[UsaInEurope]

LOL. Man I like your style.

We warned you that you couldn't depend on those internet broads! All that time hunting online up in smoke.Hahaha yes, yes you did. But it was still worth it to me as I'd rather take a chance on a non-pro vs. The downside of it all evaporating knowing there are p4 p options available.

[Mua Tur]

Thanks for advise pal!
------ I heard a lot of call center girls are infected with HIV.
Cheers,
MD.Correct. Te statistics says Call Center girls are the HIV infected on top. Usually I stay far but if unavoidable just make all checks before the doing. Once I forced to bring my CC girl the HIV test kit with her. It is easy to carry and easy to handle in hotel room.

[Mogwai]

Flipped her over to finally put it in and she freaked. Pinay supposed to love bareback but she would. Not. Have. It. At all. No convincing otherwise. In Manila it can be difficult to get BB. I have learned to ask them beforehand, after too many disappointments in my room.

[Mogwai]

No matter whether she is from the first group, or from the second one, you should always keep in your mind, that 99% of pinays are WG, who are primarily interested in your wealth.


Thanks for advise pal!I would take the 'advise' of a guy who thinks that 99% of Pinays are WG with a big grain of salt. I think '99% of Pinays are NOT WG' comes closer to reality.

Just make it very clear from the start with the ladies that you are not looking for a serious relationship. Just be honest about it to avoid drama and hurting feelings.

[BrainDrain]

Anyway, even I saw her working at the mall and even provened she was there, I don't think would like to fuck a girl just met on the sites and laid down for me after first meeting without using cover. I heard a lot of call center girls are infected with HIV.

Maybe you are right, those call centers are a cesspool of infections. Those call center girls make bargirls and street hookers look like mother teresa.

Seriously you have to be joking. You do realize that all call center staff go through health testing pre-employment plus each workplace needs all employees to complete 5 medical tests per annum. Does it stop people picking up infections through sexual contact? No. Are call center girls possibly more educated yes.

That being said I met a great call center girl on Pinalove. Now that girl knows how to swallow cum.

Bd.

[Mogwai]

I heard a lot of call center girls are infected with HIV.Where did you get that? Sounds like BS to me. Of course there is HIV in the Phils but more than 80% (if I recall the number correctly) of the infected are gay males.

[Macho Dik]

I would take the 'advise' of a guy who thinks that 99% of Pinays are WG with a big grain of salt. I think '99% of Pinays are NOT WG' comes closer to reality.

Just make it very clear from the start with the ladies that you are not looking for a serious relationship. Just be honest about it to avoid drama and hurting feelings.Thanks for the advise!

Yes, I believed not all Pinay are WG, perhaps they want to get a better chance to stay away from poverty. Actually, this girl told me they hate Filipino man, because they been cheated and left wth the fruits of their impregnated womb to themselves.

I got to tell her we are just for fun and pleasure and may be an overhaul for her more than 3 years not having sex with any guy, I will just take it as a truth, since I still believed she is normal girl that want to be loved And live nice life too.

Cheers,

MD.

[Macho Dik]

Maybe you are right, those call centers are a cesspool of infections. Those call center girls make bargirls and street hookers look like mother teresa.

Seriously you have to be joking. You do realize that all call center staff go through health testing pre-employment plus each workplace needs all employees to complete 5 medical tests per annum. Does it stop people picking up infections through sexual contact? No. Are call center girls possibly more educated yes.

That being said I met a great call center girl on Pinalove. Now that girl knows how to swallow cum.

Bd.Actually, Same like you, I doubt about it but the info given to me was from one of the Doctor friend of mine on one of the biggest hospital in Manila.

Cheers,

MD.

[Tagalog2016]

Thanks for the advise!

Actually, this girl told me they hate Filipino man, because they been cheated and left wth the fruits of their impregnated womb to themselves.

I got to tell her we are just for fun and pleasure and may be an overhaul for her more than 3 years not having sex with any guy, I will just take it as a truth, since I still believed she is normal girl that want to be loved And live nice life too.

MD.3 years without sex. Really? Being a man with sense, do you believe her? Just answer yourself. LOL.

Also it's very trite phrase, that they hate Pinoys, and it shouldn't be considered seriously. Usually it is said for foreigners to assure that they are good loyal girls, but it has nothing common with reality. Most pinays are very horny, and they can't live without dick for more than few days and most part of the year, when their proposed sponsors are out of Philippines, they are fucked by local guys. And even when their proposed sponsors are beside, some pinays manage to be fucked by Filipino BFs at the same time. Of course many of them have Pinoy husbands and long term Pinoy BFs, but that is what they will never tell you.

[Macho Dik]

Suddenly the truth reveal, my sales lady sudenrly send me WhatsApp telling me like this:

SL: honey, my phone broken today, I now use my friend phone.

ME: what happen?

SL: the LCD broken And can't turn on the phone, I am worried how to contact you when you come!

ME: it's ok, you just come to my hotel, I wait you at the lobby at the time we set.

SL: oh, how can I contact you then? I don't want you to wait too long.

ME: it's ok, I wait you till another 30 minutes more and if you don't come then it means you now coming.

She just stunned And no response anymore!

Conclusion: girls on dating site are much professional in trying to look for money for date, they will find all kind of reason to ask you to send money before hand.

Really need to be more clever in this kind of game.

Cheers,

MD.

[Macho Dik]

After all development with dating site girls, I think no chance to meet anyone, like what brothers reported eithe end up no show or full of bullies, so conclusion just to make sure to have some back up plan.

With the location of my hotel in Pedro Gil, no way for me to pick Burgos girl neither I want to be rip off with Edsa complex girl, so only la cafe & Robison mall pick up are the last resources.

Wish me luck brothers!

Cheers,

MD.

[Transporter]

After all development with dating site girls, I think no chance to meet anyone, like what brothers reported eithe end up no show or full of bullies, so conclusion just to make sure to have some back up plan.

With the location of my hotel in Pedro Gil, no way for me to pick Burgos girl neither I want to be rip off with Edsa complex girl, so only la cafe & Robison mall pick up are the last resources.

Wish me luck brothers!

Cheers,

MD.Malate is my home away from home, so if you need some info them pm me. Just let me know what hotel or location so I can give you walking directions.

Robinsons after they removed the smoking area, the girls are not as concentrated as before so it takes some time to recognize who is working and who is not but they are still there, just scattered around a bit. I would suggest skipping Robinsons, as it is very rare to find something really nice.

[Sammon]

Suddenly the truth reveal, my sales lady sudenrly send me WhatsApp telling me like this:

SL: honey, my phone broken today, I now use my friend phone.

ME: what happen?

SL: the LCD broken And can't turn on the phone, I am worried how to contact you when you come!

ME: it's ok, you just come to my hotel, I wait you at the lobby at the time we set.

SL: oh, how can I contact you then? I don't want you to wait too long.

ME: it's ok, I wait you till another 30 minutes more and if you don't come then it means you now coming.

She just stunned And no response anymore!

Conclusion: girls on dating site are much professional in trying to look for money for date, they will find all kind of reason to ask you to send money before hand.

Really need to be more clever in this kind of game.

Cheers,

MD.These things are bound to happen once in a while. To start what I would do is the moment they ask for money saying this and that cut off. Go on to the next one. Do not give up hope. Non pros are lots of fun to be with.

[BrainDrain]

Where did you get that? Sounds like BS to me. Of course there is HIV in the Phils but more than 80% (if I recall the number correctly) of the infected are gay males.CDC of course has the actual facts. The risk in Philippines is that the gay males and drug users of course are the highest infected parts of the population.

The heterosexual marred filipino man will do his part for his community to fuck the gay guy that can't get a fuck. For this the married guy will be paid by the gay. Married guy does not consider it as homosexual sex and does not realize he is at risk. Infects his filipina wife. She in turn infects us visiting hetrosexual men who are meeting these 'honest' wives via dating sites.

Oh what a twisted world it is.

BD.

[Macho Dik]

These things are bound to happen once in a while. To start what I would do is the moment they ask for money saying this and that cut off. Go on to the next one. Do not give up hope. Non pros are lots of fun to be with.Thanks pal for the advise!

Yes, I am doing that way but so far all my list on supppsed Non Pro ended the same. Will keep searching till a non pro pussy appeared.

Cheers,

MD.

[Red Kilt]

The heterosexual marred filipino man will do his part for his community to fuck the gay guy that can't get a fuck. For this the married guy will be paid by the gay. Married guy does not consider it as homosexual sex and does not realize he is at risk. Infects his filipina wife. She in turn infects us visiting hetrosexual men who are meeting these 'honest' wives via dating sites. Agreed BD.

An associated risk is the OFW seaman (there are 1000's of them in the Philippines) who roams far and wide using prostitutes in various ports (including PNG and Africa) and picks up who knows what on his travels and then comes home on leave and infects not only his wife but other female mistresses in his community. Many of these women on dating sites are the horny filipina wives and gfs left alone at home while the husband / bf is working overseas.

Don't forget too that many of these separated women on dating sites are still regularly "visited" by their estranged partner and during these visits he expects and / or has sex with her. I had a maid once who fitted this category but she didn't last long with me because she got pregnant during one of her weekends taking her leave at her home.

[Mogwai]

After all development with dating site girls, I think no chance to meet anyone, like what brothers reported eithe end up no show or full of bullies, so conclusion just to make sure to have some back up plan.You can also try WeChat and Badoo. Although Badoo is not free and I have the impression it's getting more and more commercial lately.

Quite a lot of ladyboys and scammers on WeChat and Badoo too but I have found some gems there. Can take a lot of time though.

[Tagalog2016]

Agreed BD.

An associated risk is the OFW seaman (there are 1000's of them in the Philippines) who roams far and wide using prostitutes in various ports (including PNG and Africa) and picks up who knows what on his travels and then comes home on leave and infects not only his wife but other female mistresses in his community. Many of these women on dating sites are the horny filipina wives and gfs left alone at home while the husband / bf is working overseas.

Don't forget too that many of these separated women on dating sites are still regularly "visited" by their estranged partner and during these visits he expects and / or has sex with her. I had a maid once who fitted this category but she didn't last long with me because she got pregnant during one of her weekends taking her leave at her home.I agree, but I want to add, that everything said below applies not just to women from dating sites, but for all Filipinas in general. So don't be mislead, that if you met a girl, who never enrolled in dating sites, then she is clean. Most all of pinays prefer bearback.

[Wicked Roger]

Agreed BD.

An associated risk is the OFW seaman (there are 1000's of them in the Philippines) who roams far and wide using prostitutes in various ports (including PNG and Africa) and picks up who knows what on his travels and then comes home on leave and infects not only his wife but other female mistresses in his community. Many of these women on dating sites are the horny filipina wives and gfs left alone at home while the husband / bf is working overseas.

Don't forget too that many of these separated women on dating sites are still regularly "visited" by their estranged partner and during these visits he expects and / or has sex with her. I had a maid once who fitted this category but she didn't last long with me because she got pregnant during one of her weekends taking her leave at her home.A few I have met had seamen as boyfriends / husbands and I was always very cautious. One did catch a nasty STD from her partner and that ended my times with her and her relationship with him but as to how many he was shagging in the country (she said he had many girlfriends) is unknown and she was also playing the DIA etc web site. Messy is nice word for that.

Same happens in the Middle East with the DHs who have a number of men friends and suddenly they end up pregnant (many times it is the family driver) and have to leave the country pronto. Not just the Philippines.

[Macho Dik]

You can also try WeChat and Badoo. Although Badoo is not free and I have the impression it's getting more and more commercial lately.

Quite a lot of ladyboys and scammers on WeChat and Badoo too but I have found some gems there. Can take a lot of time though.Thanks I have wechat but I don't know how to search for girls? In the past when I went China, I use scanning surrounding for chat, is this also workable in Manila?

All DIA girls last minutes. Change: 1) oh I need to go take care my family, 2) I am in HK now, 3) I need to take care someone as he is sick all these BS etc! Why don't they just go straight ask for an amount for what services! Filipina pussy really make me crazy in mind. It in my cock!

So, really have to find back up!

For La cafe girls, is php 1500-2000 for ST is high or low? For LT I guess around 3,000? Ang advise?

I wish to try bar girls in Edsa complex but heard a lot of rip off unlike in NEP in BKK.

Cheers,

MD.

[Engine Driver]

For La cafe girls, is php 1500-2000 for ST is high or low? For LT I guess around 3,000? Ang advise?

PHP 2,000 is about right for ST. The rate for LT is whatever you agree, but around 3,000 is okay. Most won't do LT as they need to get home. Some of the girls at LA Cafe travel up to 4 hours to get to the bar. They often have urgent bills to pay, their child is sick or need to pay for their fare back to the province etc. An amount of PHP 2,000 for a quick fuck will fix their immediate financial problem.

If you haven't been there before, you will be surprised by what you see.

[Transporter]

Thanks I have wechat but I don't know how to search for girls? In the past when I went China, I use scanning surrounding for chat, is this also workable in Manila?

All DIA girls last minutes. Change: 1) oh I need to go take care my family, 2) I am in HK now, 3) I need to take care someone as he is sick all these BS etc! Why don't they just go straight ask for an amount for what services! Filipina pussy really make me crazy in mind. It in my cock!

So, really have to find back up!

For La cafe girls, is php 1500-2000 for ST is high or low? For LT I guess around 3,000? Ang advise?

I wish to try bar girls in Edsa complex but heard a lot of rip off unlike in NEP in BKK.



Cheers,

MD.Never had to use wechat in China (of course I was doing China between 2000-2010 not sure if wechat was around). I sure miss CP.

DIA / PL / FC are way fun, I always enjoy the entertainment value, but you need time and a lot of it.

The complex is a higher concentration of girls, and I do enjoy going there, but I rarely every walk out with someone.

LA cafe prices have gone up, unfortunately the quality has gone down. Price depends on what its worth to you. Generally the time makes a difference, the ST and relatively affordable prices are during the day. Baby needs milk, work mommy goes to her part time work at the cafe for a ST and goes back home. Those part timers need quick cash and cannot be away from home for long, so they try to get a score and back to being mommy. At night the prices go up as these girls have more time to be selective and they invest a bit more in their appearance so they need to get a greater return.

[Macho Dik]

PHP 2,000 is about right for ST. The rate for LT is whatever you agree, but around 3,000 is okay. Most won't do LT as they need to get home. Some of the girls at LA Cafe travel up to 4 hours to get to the bar. They often have urgent bills to pay, their child is sick or need to pay for their fare back to the province etc. An amount of PHP 2,000 for a quick fuck will fix their immediate financial problem.

If you haven't been there before, you will be surprised by what you see.Thanks pal!

I been to La cafe long time ago, I am not frequent in Philippine so the gap is quite a while so may be things chance by now.

Just don't have the guts to get into Edsa conplex due to reported of rip off cases.

Cheers,

MD.

[Amjeck]

LA cafe prices have gone up, unfortunately the quality has gone down. Price depends on what its worth to you.Agree. I did a few rounds here last month and it had nothing but dregs. Worst I've ever seen at LA.

The expensive tease karaoke joints just down the road has all the lookers. Really nice quality babes for outrageous prices, though.

[Engine Driver]

The expensive tease karaoke joints just down the road has all the lookers. Really nice quality babes for outrageous prices, though.Like how much?

[Transporter]

Like how much?Sit down bars are charged by the time.

Usually there are packages you can buy it is usually advertised outside or the touts have the menu card.

You can buy a set and it is good for a certain amount of time, but the girls that sit with you are charged by time either on your bill or drinks per set time.

Taking out is possible but you have to negotiate that with the girl, and that is after she is done work or on her time off.

[Mogwai]

Thanks I have wechat but I don't know how to search for girls? In the past when I went China, I use scanning surrounding for chat, is this also workable in Manila?
Click on Discover and then People Nearby. And be sure that Location is set to 'On' on your phone.

[SaltyPete]

Thanks pal!

Just don't have the guts to get into Edsa conplex due to reported of rip off cases.

Cheers,

MD.I'd be interested in hearing about EDSA Complex rip off cases. I've been going there for years and never had a problem, just like NEP. In fact, I'd say you are more likely to be ripped off by a free Lancer since she can just disappear (or turn out to be a ladyboy; unlike NEP, there are only girls at EDSA). I've met several sweet hearts there over the years and recently had a fun little threesome. Since the girls are paid after the deed, it is low risk to you. Like I said before, be sure to go into the EDSA Complex, not the Urbanite club to the left of it. They both have their own entrances off the street. The mamasans and girls will come up and ask to buy them drinks but just tell them you are only looking now. Take your time and choose your own girl. It is really laid back. The best time to get there is between 8-9 pm. I arrived after midnight last night and the pickings were slim, or should I say "fat". How can a girl be both too skinny and too fat?

Cotton Club in EDSA has made a turn around over the last year and still had some lookers available last night.

[Member #4698]

EDSA Complex <snip> I've been going there for years and never had a problem <snip> I've met several sweet hearts there over the years and recently had a fun little threesome. Since the girls are paid after the deed, it is low risk to you. Like I said before, be sure to go into the EDSA Complex, not the Urbanite club to the left of it. Take your time and choose your own girl. It is really laid back. The best time to get there is between 8-9 pm. I arrived after midnight last night and the pickings were slim, or should I say "fat". How can a girl be both too skinny and too fat?

Cotton Club in EDSA has made a turn around over the last year and still had some lookers available last night.This describes my experiences thru the years at EDSA as well. It is a great place. I highly recommend it. Roughly & very approximately, think of Burgos as Manila's version of Cowboy and EDSA as Manila's version of Nana. Thus these two locations comprise Manila's Go Go scene and it is pretty good. Overall I think you will find the selection here is far better than what you will find at LA Cafe or Cafe Havana.

Of course if money is no object you can always try the international clubs ie the large KTV style nightclubs like Air Force One. In reality most AF 1 girls are not worth their hefty price, but I tell you true, I have seen a few real 8.5* stunners, actual model quality girls dancing in the international bars. I remember one gorgeous girl in particular from a couple of years back who was very friendly to me if you know what I mean, but there is no guarantee these high end night club girls will shag you even at their bar's astronomic price levels. These Manila international clubs are in the same league as BKK G-Clubs like the Pimp Club and Sherbet. In essence they are very different and yet very similar at the same time.

So in the end, how you spend the night is up to you. All I know is Manila has great girls in a variety of venues and price points.

[Macho Dik]

I'd be interested in hearing about EDSA Complex rip off cases. I've been going there for years and never had a problem, just like NEP. In fact, I'd say you are more likely to be ripped off by a free Lancer since she can just disappear (or turn out to be a ladyboy; unlike NEP, there are only girls at EDSA). I've met several sweet hearts there over the years and recently had a fun little threesome. Since the girls are paid after the deed, it is low risk to you. Like I said before, be sure to go into the EDSA Complex, not the Urbanite club to the left of it. They both have their own entrances off the street. The mamasans and girls will come up and ask to buy them drinks but just tell them you are only looking now. Take your time and choose your own girl. It is really laid back. The best time to get there is between 8-9 pm. I arrived after midnight last night and the pickings were slim, or should I say "fat". How can a girl be both too skinny and too fat?

Cotton Club in EDSA has made a turn around over the last year and still had some lookers available last night.Thanks for the info, with it, I will give it a try if my sales lady don't appear or not my taste then. Can you advise how much the barfine? And how much the rate for ST & LT? , Is the barfine pay upfront? As you said the payment made for the girls after deeds?

Cheers,

MD.

[Macho Dik]

This describes my experiences thru the years at EDSA as well. It is a great place. I highly recommend it. Roughly & very approximately, think of Burgos as Manila's version of Cowboy and EDSA as Manila's version of Nana. These two locations comprise Manila's Go Go scene and it is pretty good. Overall I think you will find the selection here is far better than what you will find at LA Cafe or Cafe Havana.

Of course if money is no object you can always try the international clubs ie the large KTV style nightclubs like Air Force One. In reality most AF 1 girls are not worth the big price, but I tell you true, I have seen a few actual stunners, 8.5*, real model quality girls dancing in the international bars. I remember one gorgeous girl in particular from a couple of years back who was very friendly to me if you know what I mean, but there is no guarantee these high end night club girls will shag you even at their bar's astronomic price levels. These international clubs are in the same league as BKK G-Clubs like the Pimp Club and Sherbet. In essence they are very different and yet very similar at the same time.

So in the end, how you spend the night is up to you. I wish all good luck hunting. Manila has great girls in a variety of venues and price points.Oh my God, these info come a little late to me, I should booked my stay at Manila heritage instead of AG new world Manila bay hotel. Much wonder how are is AG to Edsa complex?

Any advise on the rate ST & LT and rules at EDSA complex?

Cheers,

MD.

[SlowAndEasy]

I had a 1 night layover in Manila. Stayed at the AG New World Hotel on Pedro Gil. Its a decent hotel, decent price (about $100 USD including taxes and fees). Location is less than 5 minutes walk to beach, Robinson Mall and LA Cafe. I would recommend.

I arrived after dark, and was a bit cautious. As soon as I left my hotel, there were 4 or 5 guys offering me girls. The surrounding area looked a bit rundown, but was actually quite safe.

I checked Robinson's Mall. Its pretty large. I had a hard time finding the Burger King that is supposed to be the area for freelancers. When I did find it, there did not seem to be much action. Over by the Starbucks I did see a few working girls.

Walked over to LA Cafe and was propositioned by a few ladyboys in the area, and a few drugged out Streetwalkers.

Arrived at LA Cafe around 9 pm. It was packed, but a Finnish guy allowed me to join at his table. Over the next 3 hours, I had about 6 drinks + a few lady drinks for a total of about 1100 pesos. Lots of girls in the place, but most were hard core veterans. There were a few girls that fit my type (slim, under 25, tall). One of them was smiling at me, but by the time I got over to her, some other guy zoomed in. The others did not seem interested.

Overall, had a decent time at LA cafe.

Hit EDSA complex. Can't remember the names of the places, but there was ok (not great) talent. Was quoted 3 k - 6 k. The 6 k were long time.

Unfortunately, went home empty handed as nothing really tickled my fancy.

Overall, I was disappointed because if there other bars or clubs near LA cafe, I could not find them.

[SaltyPete]

Oh my God, these info come a little late to me, I should booked my stay at Manila heritage instead of AG new world Manila bay hotel. Much wonder how are is AG to Edsa complex?

Any advise on the rate ST & LT and rules at EDSA complex?

Cheers,

MD.New World Bay Hotel is not far from EDSA. I mean, it isn't within walking distance like Heritage (where I'm currently staying) but depending on traffic, I'd guess it is about a 20 minute taxi ride, uber shows 231 pesos. Besides the location and price, Heritage doesn't have a lot going for it. It is a bit rundown nowadays.

The standard operating procedure is to point out a girl you like to the mamasan, and buy her a drink. You will answer and ask the standard 5 questions. Where you from, how old are you, are you married, where you stay, and how long you stay. Be playful and happy, no one likes a sour puss. If there is chemistry, ask her if she does long time or short time, and how much; you can discuss and negotiate any <must do like uncovered BJ which is pretty standard. Most insist on a condom. You should expect 2000-3000ST and 4000 LT, but LT is hard to find now which is ok for me as I prefer to sleep alone. You pay this amount to the girl after the deed. You pay 2000 to the bar to take her out. Short time is generally 2 hours, 1 pop. Long time is 4 hours, 2 pops. Just ask the girl.

The only rip offs are avoidable. The food menu that is walked around and offered is way overpriced, but convenient. The taxis that wait outside will give you a flat rate 2-5 times what a metered cab will cost; you can always flag down one of the many passing cabs and ask him to use the meter. Generally speaking, cabs waiting outside any entertainment venues are rip offs. Again, avoid the Urbanites club just to the left. Or if you do go in, update us!

Has anyone gone to the Bullets VIP club in EDSA complex? Are the girls any better? Is there a cover?

[SaltyPete]

I just answered my own question. There is no cover at bullet bar. I'the call it a lounge. There were a couple ladies singing karaoke and the mamassn said a band would be on shortly. Comfortable couches circling the stage. About 10 well dressed lady hostesses, nothing to write home about though. A San Miguel was the standard price of 145 pesos.

[Member #4698]

Any advise on the rate ST & LT and rules at EDSA complex?
Cheers,
MD.The barfine is or was 1950 p when I was last at Cotton Club, my favorite EDSA bar. ST is usually around 3000 to 3500p / LT is usually around 4500 to 5000p ballpark figures only. Use these figures as a rough guide.

My advice regarding ST / LT is to book ST for your 1st tryst with any Manila bar girl no matter how sexy she is or how nice she is in the bar. My experience is that a girl is like a box of chocolates. You never know what youre going to find until you un cork her and get inside (have sex). If you click with a girl then most likely she will be more than willing to extend the evening and stay the night for a nominal fee, but better yet in my opinion and experience, is to let her go and go see her again in her bar a couple of nights later. She will be MOST happy to see you again when you make that surprise 2nd visit and that is when the good times really begin to roll ie the GFE: with ST dissolving into LT at no additional cost, condoms no longer being requested or required, and other GF's offered up for party party threesomes, ect ect. All you have to do is show up, be a reasonably nice guy, not too tight with the money, and the girls will make sure you get everything you want and then some. Play your cards right and you will find yourself with a load of MNL girls to play with for as long as you want.

[SaltyPete]

EDSA has been a miss for me the last two nights. The two hotties I spoke with on Wednesday night in the Cotton Club have been missing in action. Just goes to show that you need to jump on an opportunity when it presents itself. My go-to girl in Pitstop quit three weeks ago. She is the only girl who could deep throat all of me and was a lot of fun in bed, I'd been seeing her for three years.

It seems a lot of the hot girls in EDSA had already been reserved for a bar fine with regular (Asian) customers. Two or three nights in EDSA is enough for me. I plan to hit Burgos tonight.

[Macho Dik]

Dear All,

Have use Wechat to find people nearby function, pop up different girls contact me right away, Chat for a while And willing to come to meet me, but when I mentioned have some local friends around, suddenly they just no more response. I think these girls may be up to any kind of scammers or other intentions than just for making money for sex service render.

Cheers,

MD.

[Mogwai]

Dear All,

Have use Wechat to find people nearby function, pop up different girls contact me right away, Chat for a while And willing to come to meet me, but when I mentioned have some local friends around, suddenly they just no more response. I think these girls may be up to any kind of scammers or other intentions than just for making money for sex service render.

Cheers,

MD.Um, what exactly do you mean with 'have some local friends around'? That you're not alone in your room? Of course this scares them off. They want sex with only one guy usually.

[CallSign Papa]

A more likely reason is that if you say you have local friends, they're concerned you might know their friends or family, and their P4 P activities may be a closely guarded secret.


Dear All,

Have use Wechat to find people nearby function, pop up different girls contact me right away, Chat for a while And willing to come to meet me, but when I mentioned have some local friends around, suddenly they just no more response. I think these girls may be up to any kind of scammers or other intentions than just for making money for sex service render.

Cheers,

MD.

[Mr Enternational]

My go-to girl in Pitstop quit three weeks ago. She is the only girl who could deep throat all of me and was a lot of fun in bed, I'd been seeing her for three years.Surely you were not paying a barfine and the inflated EDSA pussy price for three years though right? Please tell me you had this chick's phone number and she would come see you for 1000 or 2000 pesos each time, instead of the 5000 it costs going through the bar.

[Mr Enternational]

A more likely reason is that if you say you have local friends, they're concerned you might know their friends or family, and their P4 P activities may be a closely guarded secret.It is no secret at all. If I all of a sudden drive home in a new Maybach my family is going to know either I won the lottery or I have been selling drugs. And since they ain't seen me on the evening news with the winning lotto ticket...

Dirt poor chick shows up home all of a sudden able to pay a 2000 peso medical bill today and next week fix the roof, where do they think she got the money from? Sure they may want to shy away from the truth, but everybody definitely already knows what the truth is.

[Macho Dik]

Thanks all for your reply.

Yes, may be I made a wrong moved by telling them I have local friends around but I did tell them they are not with me, actually, at the moment I mentioned it purposedly just to prevent them get to other objectives other than. Sex for money. As one of my friend told me that we char sometimes mix with girls on a organize group that want to extort money by suddenly their fake boyfriend or husband appeared to extort money from a guys accusing sex with her etc like that.

Anyway this is the risk may be to occur along the way.

Another we chat girls offering 10 K for 2 x sex overnight. Crazy price ha!

Cheers,

MD.

[Goferring]

Dirt poor chick shows up home all of a sudden able to pay a 2000 peso medical bill today and next week fix the roof, where do they think she got the money from?.Very presumptuous, Mr E. I know many houses that were built by very well paid waitresses and nannies. . . .

[Goferring]

Another we chat girls offering 10 K for 2 x sex overnight. Crazy price ha!

Cheers,

MD.Why did you ask what their terms were?

"I want this, this and this for this period and I pay this amount. " End of Discussion. If they come back with a counter offer, thank them for their time and move on. 99% of the time they will call you back within a couple of hours agreeing to everything.

I've got great results by then saying " thanks I'm ok for now. I'll call you in a couple of days. " When you do call back they won't bite the hand that feeds them again.

[Mr Enternational]

Very presumptuous, Mr E. I know many houses that were built by very well paid waitresses and nannies. . . .Huh? A house is not built in one day. You missed the part where I said all of a sudden. I did not say after years of saving up. This morning all she had was 50 pesos for jeepney fare. After going out a couple of hours in the evening, ALL OF A SUDDEN she has returned with 2000 pesos. Her family is not stupid enough to believe she got it from bussing tables that night. If that was the case she would buss tables every night and bring her friends and family to do it as well.

Where are these nannys or waitresses in PI that are getting paid 2000 pesos in one day?

[Goferring]

Huh? A house is not built in one day. You missed the part where I said all of a sudden.LOL. You missed the part where I was joking.

Of course waitress tips can't buy a house, nice clothes, tattoos etc. Everyone, including mum, the uncle's, the village, knows but turns a blind eye as long as the gifts roll in.

[The Cane]

It is no secret at all. If I all of a sudden drive home in a new Maybach my family is going to know either I won the lottery or I have been selling drugs. And since they ain't seen me on the evening news with the winning lotto ticket...Well, in some states a lottery winner can remain anonymous hehehe!

[BaddHabbit]

Huh? A house is not built in one day. You missed the part where I said all of a sudden. I did not say after years of saving up. This morning all she had was 50 pesos for jeepney fare. After going out a couple of hours in the evening, ALL OF A SUDDEN she has returned with 2000 pesos. Her family is not stupid enough to believe she got it from bussing tables that night. If that was the case she would buss tables every night and bring her friends and family to do it as well.

Where are these nannys or waitresses in PI that are getting paid 2000 pesos in one day?I think you will find the Good G-man was being ironic. The 4 dots at the end of his statement being part of the hint.

[WestCoast1]

Why did you ask what their terms were?

"I want this, this and this for this period and I pay this amount. " End of Discussion. If they come back with a counter offer, thank them for their time and move on. 99% of the time they will call you back within a couple of hours agreeing to everything.

I've got great results by then saying " thanks I'm ok for now. I'll call you in a couple of days. " When you do call back they won't bite the hand that feeds them again.This is generally good advice. Somewhere along the lines, pinxy are cultured to ask for (or try to get) *much* more than they need or are willing to service for than what they are willing to take. This goes for all manner of service, from hooking to taxi drivers. Try this (I will bet many experienced gents have done this repeatedly): Jump into a taxi and tell the driver you want to go to a place, have the driver wait for you while you are inside the business or home for about an hour, and then take you back to your starting point. Offer to let the meter run while he's waiting, and tell him you will give him some extra also for his time. Don't ask "How much?" Just wait for his first monetary offer for the job. Experienced gents will already know the driver will inflate the price by hundreds of pesos. If you counter-offer with, say, p200 less, and he quickly accepts your counter, you'll probably know that your -200 counter-offer was also too high. This initial-high-offer seems to be built into everyone there, including the province. Pinxy are highly opportunistic. One could make the case that pinoy often inflate prices for gringos, but that might be making my case also (its cultured).

Goferring also makes another good point, about walking away. Many gents simply can't. I'm not sure why. Girls in phils are a peso-a-dozen. You wouldn't go to the hardware store for a hammer (or fly across the globe for girls) and pick up the first hammer and swing it gently to see how it feels, discover it felt terrible in your hand, then walk to the counter and pay for it, right? If you found one that you liked, and knew that the store owner would dicker on the price, you wouldn't pay the price on the sticker, would you? Its possible my analogy is wrong.

[Goferring]

You wouldn't go to the hardware store for a hammer (or fly across the globe for girls). . . Its possible my analogy is wrong.Westie, your analogy is correct.

Remember that the Philippines is the Harbour Freight of hammer stores. They have long slender hammers, short squat hammers, high speed nail guns, rusty old hammers, expensive carbon fiber hammers, locally made hammers, imported hammers, un used hammers straight from the manufacturer and broken hammers where the head is likely to fly off and kill some one!

Hell, sometimes even the saleslady selling the hammers can get the job done!

My problem is that I have often walked in, had so many options that I've been unable to choose which hammer to buy and walked out with a wheel barrow instead.

And remember, just because your buddy says it's a great hammer, doesn't mean you know how to use it properly.

[Macho Dik]

Dear All,

Here is my report: late last night almost 00:30 visit EDSA Complex, check out the surrounding, girls looks much more than male customers. Hit Cotton club and some dancers on the stage with few Japanese customers and me left, seeing some girls dancing boring dance steps, after I am about to finished my bottle of Heineken and thinking to left this boring place, suddenly spot two ladies sitting on one corner, One of them smile to me, she has a big boobs, ask them to join me and buys them some drink, end up barfine the boobsy girls. She never talk about the price and I also forget to ask, take her for LT, learned that she is new to the place, well I don't give a damn as every girls normally will say that way! She give a good sex, very attentive and nice to be with. When she left this morning, I insert 4 K and she give a smile with a kiss and say good bye!

Cheers,

MD.

[BaddHabbit]

My problem is that I have often walked in, had so many options that I've been unable to choose which hammer to buy and walked out with a wheel barrow instead..+1 Now that made me laugh out loud (good thing I'm at the office alone right now!

[Datiao]

Sorry that I posted the same query in Angeles thread but think more appropriate to post here.

Hi guys I would appreciate some help on bus transportation during holy week. My flight arrives Manila at 1 am Thursday Mar 29. And I have a flight from Clark to Cebu on Friday Mar 30 1 am. So 24 hrs is definitely adequate to ride a bus from Manila to Clark on normal days but I m not too sure about Holy week. Can anyone advise? Thanks in advance.

[Dg8787]

Sorry that I posted the same query in Angeles thread but think more appropriate to post here.

Hi guys I would appreciate some help on bus transportation during holy week. My flight arrives Manila at 1 am Thursday Mar 29. And I have a flight from Clark to Cebu on Friday Mar 30 1 am. So 24 hrs is definitely adequate to ride a bus from Manila to Clark on normal days but I m not too sure about Holy week. Can anyone advise? Thanks in advance.I don't think you would have a problem with an early morning bus. If there are lines you would just get into a line for the bus as they fill up.

I don't unless why you would fly from Clark to Cebu the next day when there are flights from Manila to Cebu?

[Sammon]

I don't think you would have a problem with an early morning bus. If there are lines you would just get into a line for the bus as they fill up.

I don't unless why you would fly from Clark to Cebu the next day when there are flights from Manila to Cebu?Maybe he wants to get his nuts of before going to Cebu. AC is the right place for that.

[Dg8787]

Maybe he wants to get his nuts of before going to Cebu. AC is the right place for that.What! I am shocked. People go to AC for that! For less than 24 hours?

[Datiao]

I don't think you would have a problem with an early morning bus. If there are lines you would just get into a line for the bus as they fill up.

I don't unless why you would fly from Clark to Cebu the next day when there are flights from Manila to Cebu?Thanks for the reply. My GF is in Angeles and we fly to cebu together from clark thus the ride to Angeles.

I heard of very crowded bus terminal during these holy week period as hoards of locals returning home from cities.

[WestCoast1]

Thanks for the reply. My GF is in Angeles and we fly to cebu together from clark thus the ride to Angeles.

I heard of very crowded bus terminal during these holy week period as hoards of locals returning home from cities.Smarter maybe to have stayed in Manila. No need to travel to AC to get your girl. Much easier to bus her to you in Manila, saving you the trip.

[Macho Dik]

Dear All,

Here is my next report. After encountered my EDSA girl, the next day my sales lady came to my hotel as planned, she is a sex machines! Stay with me at my hotel last night but whole night full of sex! I have broke my rule, fuck her uncovered. I think she is cleaned by my instinct. She has been out of sex for 3 years, hope its true but from her reaction, so thirst on sex, so wet down there, which make more sensation! She cum several times, till this morning she cum about 10 times! Huh! But I try to control as I want to enjoy her company. So I only let it cum one time. Yes, its solid 1 time vs 10 times for her.

Tonight she will be staying again in my room after finished her work at the Mall.

I am not sure if I still have energy to have sideline in the day time with La Cafe girl while she is at work.

Cheers,

MD.

[Tagalog2016]

Dear All,

Here is my next report. After encountered my EDSA girl, the next day my sales lady came to my hotel as planned, she is a sex machines! Stay with me at my hotel last night but whole night full of sex! I have broke my rule, fuck her uncovered. I think she is cleaned by my instinct. She has been out of sex for 3 years, hope its true but from her reaction, so thirst on sex, so wet down there, which make more sensation! She cum several times, till this morning she cum about 10 times! Huh! But I try to control as I want to enjoy her company. So I only let it cum one time. Yes, its solid 1 time vs 10 times for her.

Tonight she will be staying again in my room after finished her work at the Mall.

I am not sure if I still have energy to have sideline in the day time with La Cafe girl while she is at work.

Cheers,

MD.Let's try to think logically.

You say, she is horny like hell. How do you think, can a girl like that stay without sex for 3 years? The answer is no. If she jumped in your bed on the first date, then she definitely behaves accordingly with other men. So it is mistake to fuck her without cover. Don't forget to test for STD when you are back home.

[Datiao]

Smarter maybe to have stayed in Manila. No need to travel to AC to get your girl. Much easier to bus her to you in Manila, saving you the trip.Well airtickets already bought to fly from clark, and she's expecting me, just that I overlooked its on holy week.

Not planning to stay manila for a few days else might bus her to me.

[Macho Dik]

Let's try to think logically.

You say, she is horny like hell. How do you think, can a girl like that stay without sex for 3 years? The answer is no. If she jumped in your bed on the first date, then she definitely behaves accordingly with other men. So it is mistake to fuck her without cover. Don't forget to test for STD when you are back home.Thanks for reply and advise.

I saw her ID, a sales lady in the mall and the biggest one here.

The way she acted I can say that seems been for a long while didn't have sex. For sure she isn't a girl of sex for pay type. She left without asking any single money. What I am more concern is she try to take this date as some what initiate relationship. This is far more troublesome as it cost much. So my instinct now is to start cooling it down.

Cheers,

MD.

[Chocha Monger]

Dear All,

Here is my next report. After encountered my EDSA girl, the next day my sales lady came to my hotel as planned, she is a sex machines! Stay with me at my hotel last night but whole night full of sex! I have broke my rule, fuck her uncovered. I think she is cleaned by my instinct. She has been out of sex for 3 years, hope its true but from her reaction, so thirst on sex, so wet down there, which make more sensation! She cum several times, till this morning she cum about 10 times! Huh! But I try to control as I want to enjoy her company. So I only let it cum one time. Yes, its solid 1 time vs 10 times for her.

Tonight she will be staying again in my room after finished her work at the Mall.

I am not sure if I still have energy to have sideline in the day time with La Cafe girl while she is at work.

Cheers,

MD.
Let's try to think logically.
You say, she is horny like hell. How do you think, can a girl like that stay without sex for 3 years? The answer is no. If she jumped in your bed on the first date, then she definitely behaves accordingly with other men. So it is mistake to fuck her without cover. Don't forget to test for STD when you are back home.It is said that a man has two heads, a big one and a little one, but not enough blood to use both simultaneously. As a result, men are easy prey when the small head is buried in a hot wet snatch experiencing 10 orgasms per night. Logical thinking goes out the bedroom window as soon as Mr. Penis says, "Oh boy! This feels good! I want more of this hot wet tight slippery hole."

The brain knows that it is improbable with a high degree of confidence that a Pinay sales-lady goes without sex for 3 days, much less 3 years. First, there is only one thing Filipinas love more than unlimited rice, and that is unlimited sex! Men from around the world do not call these little honeys LBFMs, or Little Brown Fuck Monsters, for nothing.

Second, malls hire sales-ladies based on attractiveness, outgoing personality, and ability to tell customers whatever it takes to make the sale. She knows that most fellas prefer lightly used pussy to heavily used pussy. Therefore, she presented her pussy to MD, as a slightly used pussy in storage for the last 3 years. Of course, MD feels lucky to get this bargain, as 3-year drought pussy that belongs to a nymphomaniac Filipino is the stuff of legends. She shows up at his hotel and tumbles directly into bed. Then proceeds to fuck him like a rogue succubus, draining his precious bodily fluids to the extent that he doubts enough energy remains to sex other girls.

It appears that she is a pro at handling mongers. She knows that draining a monger's nuts all night is going to blunt his appetite to hunt for other pussies when she is away at work. That is a good indication that she is no stranger to fucking mongers and managing them. Shop girls at the mall meet hundreds of fellas each month. She will fuck at least a few of them to supplement her income, as she will want to purchase some of the goodies she sees at the mall every day. Many Filipino store managers and businessmen will acquaint her pussy with their cocks bareback at the nearby Sogo and Victoria Court hot sheet hotels.

Hence, he should enjoy but pecker check at the clinic is well advised upon return home. Even better, check before departure to avoid itchy urethra, penile and testicular pain, and difficulty voiding bladder on long flight home. Nothing is worse than a case of sprinkler dick at 30,000 feet, and spraying up the bulkhead instead down into the bowl.

[Mogwai]

Let's try to think logically.

You say, she is horny like hell. How do you think, can a girl like that stay without sex for 3 years? The answer is no. If she jumped in your bed on the first date, then she definitely behaves accordingly with other men. So it is mistake to fuck her without cover. Don't forget to test for STD when you are back home.I think it's logical that she was horny as hell BECAUSE she didn't have sex for 3 years. A girl who is sex starved behaves differently than a girl who has sex regularly but is just horny all the time. Although I can't really explain the difference, it's just a feeling.

[Engine Driver]

Dear All,

She has been out of sex for 3 years, hope its true
The only Olympic sport which Filipinas always win the gold medal: lying.

Don't believe this rubbish. She is a seasoned expert who wants to hook you.

[Mogwai]

The only Olympic sport which Filipinas always win the gold medal: lying.

Don't believe this rubbish. She is a seasoned expert who wants to hook you.That's possible but since you don't know her you can't be so sure. Not all of these girls are hardened lying and cheating pro's.

I'm getting really tired of all the sweeping generalizations in the Phils threads lately.

[Macho Dik]

I think it's logical that she was horny as hell BECAUSE she didn't have sex for 3 years. A girl who is sex starved behaves differently than a girl who has sex regularly but is just horny all the time. Although I can't really explain the difference, it's just a feeling.Yes, this is exactly what I feel at that moment. A regular working girl with numerous sex time to time really can't fake as what she really demonstrating. Almost every single kissing will lead us to rub each other down there.

So pity these two nights she got sick due to heavy sex the other night! LOL!

Cheers,

MD.

[Mr Enternational]

The only Olympic sport which Filipinas always win the gold medal: lying.

Don't believe this rubbish. She is a seasoned expert who wants to hook you.And no matter how red-handed you catch them, they will never fess up. Ask them why they lied and they will just keep trying to duck the subject.

[Bushes]

My $0.02. I like the Filipinas because most of them do not do the Japanese porn star moaning and groaning but really moan or groan when they are enjoying. How do I know the difference. The later just sounds more realistic and soothing to my ears. A feeling.

MD and M, the real test is did you enjoy and believe it? If so, enough said. Case closed. I know I have paid for less convincing performances at the MET. LOL!


Yes, this is exactly what I feel at that moment. A regular working girl with numerous sex time to time really can't fake as what she really demonstrating. Almost every single kissing will lead us to rub each other down there.

So pity these two nights she got sick due to heavy sex the other night! LOL!

Cheers,

MD.
I think it's logical that she was horny as hell BECAUSE she didn't have sex for 3 years. A girl who is sex starved behaves differently than a girl who has sex regularly but is just horny all the time. Although I can't really explain the difference, it's just a feeling.

[Chocha Monger]

Yes, this is exactly what I feel at that moment. A regular working girl with numerous sex time to time really can't fake as what she really demonstrating. Almost every single kissing will lead us to rub each other down there.

So pity these two nights she got sick due to heavy sex the other night! LOL!

Cheers,

MD.Who said she was faking? Unlike Western women, Pinays do not need to fall in love to enjoy animalistic natural sexing. It is natural for her to get soaking wet and fuck like a beast in heat with a strange cock. Your dick gets amped up to fuck a new pussy and the fresh scent of the girl is intoxicating. This high is why you monger. Well, Pinays feel this too when they fuck a new dick. Do not think only men experience the intoxicating rush of adrenaline, endorphins, dopamine, and oxytocin from fucking strangers in hotel rooms.

As for regular Pinay working girls not being able to get turned on and wanting wild repeated sex all night long, you are wrong about that. You have not met some of the wild Pinay fuck monsters working the bars. Admittedly, there are less of them around now than there were a few years ago. However, there are bar girls that will fuck you better and with more passion than any girlfriend from Europe, North America, or Australia. They scream, writhe, moan, groan, squirt and come multiple times too.

Do not think for a minute that your salesgirl was not expecting some cash from you just because she enjoyed wearing out your meat wrench. Most likely, she got too sick to return to sex you up for the other two nights because you did not give her any money in the morning after fucking her brains out, or you did not give the minimum amount she expected. She probably cancelled the encore fucks and moved on to the other fella (s) ready to put cash down on the pussy. In an environment such as Manila where many foreigners and well-heeled Filipinos are ready to give cash or replace broken cellphones for sex with an attractive fuck monster, girls are unlikely to return for nothing more than a hard fuck.

You should not count on her returning for repeat performances. In the same way your endgame is scoring free GFE pussy, her endgame is getting some pesos. Manila is full of meat wrenches she can ride for fun, so do not think yours is special. If all you sent her home with after the first night was a sore pussy, her Pinoy husband / boyfriend is not going to let her meet you again. From what you said, it looks like you blew it.

[Macho Dik]

Dear All,

My short trip to Manila can be summarize as follows;.

1) EDSA complex girl: 1 , great Fucking! Big boobs young no babies, black beauty. Her first day at cotton club damaged 4 K.

2) My Sales Lady: great GFE, fucking all night long, damaged: FOC, never ask money. So sad she got sick due to over sex (LOL).

3) LA CAFE girls: only taking ST as initial intended for sideline. Damaged 1 K, 2 K, 1. 5 K All for ST, 3 different girls. Common denominator, face & body totally not parallel, meaning acceptable looks but medium to heavy birth stress mark.

Due to limited time, some suggestions location from our good friends here are unable executed. Will have it as my assignment on future trip to Manila.

Lastly, DIA girls, I have total of pre-arrange girls but only one (my Sales Lady) make a success, while the rest about 5 girls all not show up inspite of asking at least 5 K service charge. While about 2 girls asking pre send money which I immediately deleted from my wish list.

That's all folks and thanks to those brother's comments and suggestion that really help a lot.

Cheers.

MD.

[Soapy Smith]

I'm getting really tired of all the sweeping generalizations in the Phils threads lately.Interesting thing about sweeping generalizations: they often say as much about the generalizer as about the generalized.

[Hutsori]

Interesting thing about sweeping generalizations: they often say as much about the generalizer as about the generalized.Generally so.

[Macho Dik]

Who said she was faking? Unlike Western women, Pinays do not need to fall in love to enjoy animalistic natural sexing. It is natural for her to get soaking wet and fuck like a beast in heat with a strange cock. Your dick gets amped up to fuck a new pussy and the fresh scent of the girl is intoxicating. This high is why you monger. Well, Pinays feel this too when they fuck a new dick. Do not think only men experience the intoxicating rush of adrenaline, endorphins, dopamine, and oxytocin from fucking strangers in hotel rooms.

As for regular Pinay working girls not being able to get turned on and wanting wild repeated sex all night long, you are wrong about that. You have not met some of the wild Pinay fuck monsters working the bars. Admittedly, there are less of them around now than there were a few years ago. However, there are bar girls that will fuck you better and with more passion than any girlfriend from Europe, North America, or Australia. They scream, writhe, moan, groan, squirt and come multiple times too.

Do not think for a minute that your salesgirl was not expecting some cash from you just because she enjoyed wearing out your meat wrench. Most likely, she got too sick to return to sex you up for the other two nights because you did not give her any money in the morning after fucking her brains out, or you did not give the minimum amount she expected.t.I think she is not after money for sex, may be it's an investment for her for bigger money later this is what my instinct told me. She did not come not because of no money but really pain and fever, she show me the prescription from clinic and till this morning she still chatting me and send me her nude pussy picture after my request.

It's true no sex for free, as you can see my earlier post, I am sure money come later, I just put this as a way of investment. FYI, when she is leaving after the first night, I handed her 3 K for her taxi money but she return 2 k to me saying that is already enough. We have a great time eating outside aside from sex. But as what I said, I am not expecting a free for sex, since in due time she will ask for some money to remitted to her for some reason she may make out then.

Cheers,

MD.

[JcFromNz]

I think she is not after money for sex, may be it's an investment for her for bigger money later this is what my instinct told me. She did not come not because of no money but really pain and fever, she show me the prescription from clinic and till this morning she still chatting me and send me her nude pussy picture after my request.

It's true no sex for free, as you can see my earlier post, I am sure money come later, I just put this as a way of investment. FYI, when she is leaving after the first night, I handed her 3 K for her taxi money but she return 2 k to me saying that is already enough. We have a great time eating outside aside from sex. But as what I said, I am not expecting a free for sex, since in due time she will ask for some money to remitted to her for some reason she may make out then.

Cheers,

MD.I'm glad you enjoyed your first trip to ph. You experienced the good and the good, the reason we all take those long flights. And you are realistic enough to know that your sales lady is playing the long game. Just be prepared, there are few rules to this game. If you have no plans to see her again, don't play her along. If you plan on returning and want to see her again, be careful, she may be an expert.

[SaltyPete]

I think she is not after money for sex, may be it's an investment for her for bigger money later this is what my instinct told me. She did not come not because of no money but really pain and fever, she show me the prescription from clinic and till this morning she still chatting me and send me her nude pussy picture after my request.

It's true no sex for free, as you can see my earlier post, I am sure money come later, I just put this as a way of investment. FYI, when she is leaving after the first night, I handed her 3 K for her taxi money but she return 2 k to me saying that is already enough. We have a great time eating outside aside from sex. But as what I said, I am not expecting a free for sex, since in due time she will ask for some money to remitted to her for some reason she may make out then.

Cheers,

MD.Here is my working theory. The larger the age discrepancy, the more likely she is in it for the money. The larger the looks discrepancy, (I. E you are a 4 and she is an 8) the more likely she is in it for the money. Couple the age and looks difference together. If you are a '4' and 50 years old and she is an '8' and 20, it is all about the money. This is not a generalization. She will either play the short con (pay up front) or the long con. As an aside, I think marriage falls under the latter category, LOL.

My concern with your personal encounter is that you barebacked her. I would not be surprised if you hear "Honey, I'm pregnant" in the next month. She may 1) be lying, 2) actually be pregnant with your kid, or 3) may have already been pregnant with her boyfriends kid when you were with her. Having you pay support for a baby for 18 years (lost wages, needs food, needs school, got bit by a rabid cat, etc) is a long con and provides a certain monthly payment for her. I'm not sure where you are from, but the Philippines has legal agreements with other countries that require child support payments. In the US, the child is also entitled to SSN survivor benefits.

Did she ask you not to use a condom? How does 30 minutes of protected sex compare to 18 years of child support payments? Then add in the ethical/moral costs of having your child raised in the Philippines (no future) by a stranger.

Unless you've had a vasectomy, you really need to "wrap that rascal" to avoid the long con.

[Macho Dik]

Bareback with her but not cum inside so impregnated her or her alibi being pregnant be real or by others are definitely out of the questions!

For sure this Filipina sales lady are up to something -Money! I am expecting in soonest time asking me to remit money for some emergency use (make up story for sure).

Just to check and see what she really up to. Or perhaps we all are wrong? More likely not!

Cheers,

MD.

[SaltyPete]

Bareback with her but not cum inside so impregnated her or her alibi being pregnant be real or by others are definitely out of the questions!

For sure this Filipina sales lady are up to something -Money! I am expecting in soonest time asking me to remit money for some emergency use (make up story for sure).

Just to check and see what she really up to. Or perhaps we all are wrong? More likely not!

Cheers,

MD.Please let us know how it turns out.

[Bushes]

Sounds like the withdrawal method; which has been proven many times over as being not effective at preventing pregnancy. Great for population growth. Not sure where you are from, but you should try to learn a little bit about contraception.


Bareback with her but not cum inside so impregnated her or her alibi being pregnant be real or by others are definitely out of the questions!I would not count on the Filipina to do the contraception. I asked one if she knew where the blood from the period comes from. Sure, she replied, from the clitoris. Facepalm while trying to keep a straight face.

[Macho Dik]

Sounds like the withdrawal method; which has been proven many times over as being not effective at preventing pregnancy. Great for population growth. Not sure where you are from, but you should try to learn a little bit about contraception.

I would not count on the Filipina to do the contraception. I asked one if she knew where the blood from the period comes from. Sure, she replied, from the clitoris. Facepalm while trying to keep a straight face.Actually, it's not withdrawal method, ok let me elaborate the whole scenario, I fuck her bareback but I didn't cum inside just to have pleasure with uncovered flesh to flesh and let my cock dip inside her wet warm pussy hole.

When I decide to let it explode and cum I pull out my cock then covered and explode with condom on.

Sorry for not go into details ever since.

Cheers,

MD.

[Macho Dik]

Please let us know how it turns out.Surely will report back!

Cheers,

MD.

[BonusParts]

Sounds like the withdrawal method; which has been proven many times over as being not effective at preventing pregnancy. Great for population growth. Not sure where you are from, but you should try to learn a little bit about contraception.I remember hearing it was about as effective as condoms if you did it right. Link from google - https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ywmm9k/pulling-out-is-as-effective-as-using-condoms it mentions a 2014 study but I have no idea if there are others showing the same thing.

[Red Kilt]

I remember hearing it was about as effective as condoms if you did it right. Link from google - https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/ywmm9k/pulling-out-is-as-effective-as-using-condoms it mentions a 2014 study but I have no idea if there are others showing the same thing.I hope Macho Dik has not given too much of his identity to his sales lady friend, because his form of contraception has a risk associated with it.

To my mind, 4% is still a risk. The only sure fire contraceptive method that can withstand any form of challenge is a vasectomy, provided it too has been checked as successful at least a month after the operation.

If the sales lady does contact him with a story of pregnancy he cannot be certain that it is not his spawn that did the deed (especially if she really is as pure and innocent as he assumed).

There are lots of articles around about withdrawal viz: https://www.ippf.org/blogs/myths-and-facts-about-withdrawal.

All of them admit to some form of risk associated with the pre-cum juice.

[Dg8787]

I hope Macho Dik has not given too much of his identity to his sales lady friend, because his form of contraception has a risk associated with it.

To my mind, 4% is still a risk. The only sure fire contraceptive method that can withstand any form of challenge is a vasectomy, provided it too has been checked as successful at least a month after the operation.

If the sales lady does contact him with a story of pregnancy he cannot be certain that it is not his spawn that did the deed (especially if she really is as pure and innocent as he assumed).

There are lots of articles around about withdrawal viz: https://www.ippf.org/blogs/myths-and-facts-about-withdrawal.

All of them admit to some form of risk associated with the pre-cum juice.I would hope he along with others would not run but take responsibility for fatherhood. Disgusting to me when a man doesn't take responsibility for his creation.

[Soapy Smith]

Disgusting to me when a man doesn't take responsibility for his creation.And sort of puts to lie the frequent refrain in this forum that it is the Pinays who deceive and lie.

[WestCoast1]

And sort of puts to lie the frequent refrain in this forum that it is the Pinays who deceive and lie.Respectfully disagree. Everyone lies at times. Lying seems to be done more regularly (and is more frequently forgiven) among Pilipino. Pinoy comedian Mikey Bustos even does an entire skit about it. However it certainly doesn't help when mongers deceive (the pot calling the kettle black).

[Red Kilt]

I would hope he along with others would not run but take responsibility for fatherhood. Disgusting to me when a man doesn't take responsibility for his creation.I absolutely agree Dg.

I noted that in my post #16194 it might have looked like I hoped he was able to avoid responsibility but in fact I hope he is prepared to man up.

[Mogwai]

To my mind, 4% is still a risk.Sure, it's still a risk but only a small one. A woman is only 6 days fertile in each of her cycles, and each cycle has 28 days on average. And of those 6 days she's the least fertile in the first 3 days and the most fertile in the last 3 days.

[SaltyPete]

Actually, it's not withdrawal method, ok let me elaborate the whole scenario, I fuck her bareback but I didn't cum inside just to have pleasure with uncovered flesh to flesh and let my cock dip inside her wet warm pussy hole.

When I decide to let it explode and cum I pull out my cock then covered and explode with condom on.

Sorry for not go into details ever since.

Cheers,

MD.That may be the reason she stopped seeing you; you squelched her long-con so no need for her to waste her time.

[Bushes]

OK, lets call it the MD method. It is still a risk. IMHO, I would not rely on it.


Actually, it's not withdrawal method, ok let me elaborate the whole scenario, I fuck her bareback but I didn't cum inside just to have pleasure with uncovered flesh to flesh and let my cock dip inside her wet warm pussy hole.

When I decide to let it explode and cum I pull out my cock then covered and explode with condom on.

Sorry for not go into details ever since.

Cheers,

MD.
Sure, it's still a risk but only a small one. A woman is only 6 days fertile in each of her cycles, and each cycle has 28 days on average. And of those 6 days she's the least fertile in the first 3 days and the most fertile in the last 3 days.

[Dg8787]

I absolutely agree Dg.

I noted that in my post #16194 it might have looked like I hoped he was able to avoid responsibility but in fact I hope he is prepared to man up.No problem RK. My comment was intended for dead beat sperm donors and would be donors.

[WazWallaby]

I recently had a 3 night DIA romp in Manila. I had some leave and was able to get a good-priced stay at the Sofitel on Manila Bay. I put in some spade work on DIA, putting it quite straightforwardly that I was a fairly fit and frisky 60 yr old businessman, coming to Manila for a few days and wanted to meet a young chubby up to 30 yrs old and would be at The Sofitel. I got some takers and had a narrowed field of 3 pretty ready by the time I landed. The first girl I called, Hunny, turned out great.

I should say that I have found DIA very good. On my profile I tell it like it is. I am old , in town for few days only, staying at the Sofitel. Anyone who replies is in no doubt about what I want, I guess. I have had very good fucks trawling in the early morning, and inviting whoever is online to come over for breakfast. Once I had a girl in my room not 30 minutes after contact. Another time I had 3 'Yesses' in 5 minutes flat. It does work.

Anyway, Hunny. 26, kind of chubby and firm – which I like – nice sized, rounded tits, milk coffee skin. Comes over after lunch and we hop straight into the shower for a friendly, soapy getting to know you fuck. She jammed her hands against the wall and thrust out her meaty bum, looking over her shoulder at me with a smouldering 'do me' look. Now being taller than her, I had to bend my knees and angle up into her pussy. That's really good because you can get a nice long and deep stroke going as well as rub up against her g-spot. That happened, and she told me later she had an orgasm while I was only a few strokes into fucking her.

The action then moved to the bed – they have generously sized and comfy beds at Sofitel. Hunny really turned it on here. She was a 100% top talent at below the waist tongue work, let me tell you. Not one part missed out on her luscious lipped kisses and sucks, probing tongue and delicate little strategic teeth nips. She worked every part slow and long. When I felt like a bit of DATY, Hunny lay back, put her hands behind her knees to spread herself wide, her gorgeous holes opening up like a couple of lovely flowers greeting the morning sun. I alternated between licking and fingering pussy and a-hole and fucken fingered and licked and sucked her so deep I swear I could taste yesterday's semen! Hehe. By then I knew Hunny was 3 hole trooper, and that night I duly fucked each hole.

Next morning she said she had to go home feed her kids. OK, first mention of those. I gave her 6 K. She couldn't believe it, and, surprise, surprise, agreed to come back that night!  She turned up looking a million bucks. New dress, new hair, salon for make-up, the works. She looked gorgeous and horny and I fucked her then and there, bent over the bed and dress lifted up at the back. She had perfumed her pussy and a-hole too. We went out to a pricey restaurant and played Mr and Mrs. After that to an exxie jazz club with lots of loaded locals and a few whites. I could tell other guys were looking at her, then me, and trying to work us out. Guys wanted her, I could tell that. And she flirted a bit too. It was an exciting and horny night. I wanted her to suck me in the cab back, but she demurred. Bummer! We made excellent love that night, excited and playful and sensual and long. I kissed her deeply with real emotion a lot. Oh, oh.

The cold light of day cured what may have been emerging, as I assured myself I was just fucking a DIA working girl, now get on with it! Hunny again had to go home to the kids, and I said, come back this afternoon and bring a friend. She was a bit taken aback but agreed. That arvo she turned up with Mari, a 31 yr old shopping mall ****, very dark, thin spinner-type bod but good, big but slightly saggy tits, like a pair of eggplants stuck on her chest. I tried to get Hunny into bed first, but she said, "Fuck her. I bring her. " Mari had no qualms, started a bit of BBBJ, and then I just pushed her down onto the bed and proceeded to fuck her missionary. Hunny turned on the tv and started watching one of those execrable soapies and slurped on a Pepsi. I finished off by covering Mari's big aubergines with a decent layer of cream sauce. She seemed amazed by this and started to rub the cum in all over her tits, belly and up into her pussy, walking around the room and onto the balcony, kind of laughing weirdly and saying repeatedly "he blow on my tits, he come on my tits" in broken English.

After that, things went downhill a bit, because Hunny wouldn't fuck me in front of Mari and we had a kind of stand-off until I enticed her into the bathroom and fucked her again in the shower. That was long after we had ordered up an expensive room service meal, and they, natch ordered the most expensive things on the menu. While I fucked Hunny in the shower, Mari also raided the mini-bar. Much later that night, I got a cowgirl out of Mari while Hunny slept.

Next morning, I gave Hunny another 6 k – I know! While we were having a coffee, Mari started to get flirty and stroked me through my shorts and said she wanted to stay. I thought about getting one last BBBJ from her, but decided, 'Naah. ' I shooed them out of the room.

With a late flight, I organized late check-out, had a swim and a snooze then a long and large meal in the coffee shop. I chatted up one of the waitresses, Esmy, 24 yrs old, and gave her my card. She asked for another one and came back with her full name and all of her contact details written on the back. Hmm, for sure they can't fraternise with guests, but if I stayed at another hotel, the Pan Pacific is meant to be nice, and made a phone call.

All up DIA has worked for me quite well, although some hours can be spent on it initially. Best to be direct, you will almost always get a taker and I like the thrill of appreciating the difference between the online and the actual. Though I didn't do it on the trip described above, trawling DIA in Manila for early morning fucks, I. E. Around 6 am has worked well for me in the past and somehow seems more exciting.

[Macho Dik]

Dear All,

Nice to see a long discussions over my encounter w / my sales lady. Anyway, last night I recieved a Viber message from my cotton club girl that send a nice greetings and friendly message.

Generally speaking, I think Filipina are in nature kind hearted, their being lying, money digger or even opportunistic should be environmental induce factors, actually, they majority loose trust on man should be credited to their Filipino boyfriend that left them once they got pregnant! Their being gold digger should be blame to us mongers that either pass them that habit for easy money or simply use money for trade.

I am sure all of us has his own stories to tell! Happy mongering to all!

Cheers,

MD.

[Bushes]

I think women are the same the world over. Some guys are just nicer or stupid. Had friends where the wives, professionals with nice six digit salaries, hang on after separating once the news on male friends' fast approaching appointment with the grim reaper. They move in after the friend in gone and starts manipulating the kids and the vast estates.


Generally speaking, I think Filipina are in nature kind hearted, their being lying, money digger or even opportunistic should be environmental induce factors, actually, they majority loose trust on man should be credited to their Filipino boyfriend that left them once they got pregnant! Their being gold digger should be blame to us mongers that either pass them that habit for easy money or simply use money for trade.

[BrainDrain]

Somewhere in the forum it was suggested that documents can be copied in Quaipo.

Well I was surprised just how easy it was.

I was able to obtain a copy of my non-existent Ph Drivers Licence. Now doing a side by side comparison to my partner's legitimate licence I can't tell the difference.

I selected Organ Donor. I just hope they wait until I"m definitely going to be dead soon.

If you are doing business in any way or any capacity in Philippines I do suggest a visit to this area. You will simply never trust any Philippines 'official' document again.

BD.

[Transporter]

Somewhere in the forum it was suggested that documents can be copied in Quaipo.

Well I was surprised just how easy it was.

I was able to obtain a copy of my non-existent Ph Drivers Licence. Now doing a side by side comparison to my partner's legitimate licence I can't tell the difference.

I selected Organ Donor. I just hope they wait until I"m definitely going to be dead soon.

If you are doing business in any way or any capacity in Philippines I do suggest a visit to this area. You will simply never trust any Philippines 'official' document again.

BD.I got a few ivy league diplomas and a pilots license last time.

[BonusParts]

I think women are the same the world over. Some guys are just nicer or stupid. Had friends where the wives, professionals with nice six digit salaries, hang on after separating once the news on male friends' fast approaching appointment with the grim reaper. They move in after the friend in gone and starts manipulating the kids and the vast estates.Of course women are the same all over the world. Cultural differences, etc. Are what make a difference.

[Goferring]

Arriving Manila tomorrow (Sun 25th) and staying until Thurs 29th in Makati.

Let me know if anyone is up for beers or looking for a wingman.

Note: posted here on purpose as the Travel thread seems to be no where near as popular.

Cheers.

[Soapy Smith]

RK reported in November that regular white taxis can now pick up passengers at NAIA. I observed at Terminal Three that they wait at an outer ring driveway away from the terminal and out toward the Skyway. Can anybody report whether they are also now allowed at Terminal One, and, if so, where they wait? An obvious place would be in the parking lot that's out past the various booths selling food, sim cards, etc. Thanks in advance for information. Soapy.

[SigkaPouro]

Hello everyone,

Will be coming to Manila on the 8th. Not sure in which area I should stay, so any advice would be appreciated. Just want to relax and have a nice and cheap vacation with loads of sex. If anyone wants to join me let me know.

[D Cups]

Go to Makati / Burgos and / or Malate / LA Cafe. Read the respective forums for more details.


Will be coming to Manila on the 8th. Not sure in which area I should stay, so any advice would be appreciated. Just want to relax and have a nice and cheap vacation with loads of sex. If anyone wants to join me let me know.

[Chocha Monger]

I absolutely agree Dg.

I noted that in my post #16194 it might have looked like I hoped he was able to avoid responsibility but in fact I hope he is prepared to man up.The majority of mongers would disagree with the idea that they are on the hook if the hooker they paid to service them decides not to use birth control and became knocked up while conducting business. That is like saying the passenger is on the hook for the medical bills and damages suffered whenever their taxi driver decides to drive recklessly without insurance and crashes. Most mongers are fucking prostitutes precisely because they do not want the responsibility of providing long-term support for a woman and children. Prostitutes opt for immediate upfront payment for sex with the understanding that the monger is not going to stick around to play accidental daddy and family man.

Otherwise, the monger may as well get a real girlfriend or wife who has not fucked hundreds or thousands of mongers. Paying to start a family with a random hooker who decided to hook herself 18 to 21 years of payments is beyond foolish. Hookers themselves know this and target soft fellas for pregnancy scams. If mongers are liable for pregnancies and STDs, they had better be sure that they only fuck licensed insured and bonded prostitutes. Someone would make a fortune selling accidental pregnancy and child support insurance coverage to mongers with extremely high premiums for bareback and un-vasectomized mongers.

[Transporter]

Hello everyone,

Will be coming to Manila on the 8th. Not sure in which area I should stay, so any advice would be appreciated. Just want to relax and have a nice and cheap vacation with loads of sex. If anyone wants to join me let me know.I'll be there from the 5th, pm me if you need info.

[BonusParts]

0/2 with freelancers here. One from LA Cafe and the other from Burglos street. I just feel so rushed with these girls I can't enjoy it. I understand they're working and have no interest in me but god damn pretend. First one wouldn't make out with me (light unenjoyable kissing "no experience") even though I said that I wanted it beforehand. I know some won't do it so I always bring it up. Then she tried to say we agreed to 2000ST not LT. Maybe she would have heard right if she fucking paid attention when I was talking to her. She wasn't my first choice but the two of the three girls I tried to talk to before her showed 0 interest and the other wanted 2500ST. I should have countered 2500-3000 LT in hindsight or grabbed her number in case she was free later. Anyway she was also gross as some skin on her feet were flaking off and she was texting her BF while in my room. Gave her 500 p and kicked her out. The 2nd was a massage from a girl who also didn't want to kiss me with tongue despite me making it clear I wanted it. I actually talked to her a bit before we got to my room and I could tell she wasn't interested in what I had to say but she at least put in an effort and fake laughed at some points so I figured she'd put in some effort. Massage was shit (but not the point so not a big deal) and she was on her period. I only asked her once when she was in my room and she pretended not to hear me. That's a rookie mistake on me I guess. I should have pressed it. I only knew to ask by reading the thread. Another bad time. I did fuck her (briefly) so I tried to give her 1500 p instead of 2000 p since it was a shit time but she wouldn't budge so I gave her 2000. I wanted her gone. She even tried to take a water on the way out. I wish I went to Bangkok. I'm on Day 3 hoping to finally blow a load here. It's not perfect but I've had some great massages there. I'll try wechat for today since everything is closed and I'm hoping when I get to Angeles city I'll have a better time. Anyway it's good to vent. For other newbies like me make sure to build a better rapport (I did the 2nd time but I think this is still useful), confirm what they will do (even though they will still lie), and ask if they are on their period. Also I'm not attractive but I'm neither old, ugly, or socially retarded (don't hold these last two days against me I'm still learning haha).

[Goons]

Its great having Rizal Ave close by. When I want an immediate release, there is always a LBFM available (SW) ready to please. They ask for 1000ST. I give it to them. They sometimes ask for something (300 php) for the mamasan, some don't. Kamagong hotel is great for 1 - 2 HR stays. Some girls look real skanky, some are drugged out, I ignored those because I was always able to find (surprisingly) a normal, clean LOOKING girl who may as well have been picked up from SKOUT or something.

One night I got the tricycle driver to slowly prowl the 2 sides of Rizal Ave while I kept an eye out for a SW. I saw a slightly chubby (but not fat) 24 year old who looked sweet and very nicely dressed. After negotiating the mamasan down from 1500 to 1000ST, we start heading to the trike to go back to my hotel (not to Kamagong). Damn the mamasan wants to accompany the girl (which I hate).

When we get back to the tricycle, I see a skinny (like 80 lbs skinny) , roughly 21 year old girl standing right by the tricycle. I switch gears fast, offer her 1000ST, and tell her to get into the tricycle. The mamasan starts arguing with me, but I wave her off and tell the driver to go immediately. Without ID, the hotel guard just made her write her name and sign and all was good. Another time, a girl I brought (a regular) who had no ID, the guards just took a photo of her upon leaving to make them happy! No girl has ever been refused entry.Reminds me of my time in Cebu years ago. I'd stroll around Junquera in Colon after going to the bars nearby, sometimes just talking with the pedicab drivers until it was time to make rounds or when the girls would appear. Prices were a little lower, 400-800st. 1300 for LT.

I was thinking Ermita would be similar but when I read up on reports it seems not to be the case. I would appreciate any more specifics on places around Rizal Ave where I might start.

[Soapy Smith]

RK reported in November that regular white taxis can now pick up passengers at NAIA. I observed at Terminal Three that they wait at an outer ring driveway away from the terminal and out toward the Skyway. Can anybody report whether they are also now allowed at Terminal One, and, if so, where they wait? In the unlikely event that anybody cares, here are the answers to my questions.

Yes, regular white taxis are now allowed to pick up passengers at the arrival level of Terminal One.

As you go outside the doors just past the customs counters and money changers, yellow cabs are, as always, to the immediate left. If you proceed across the first three or four lanes of roadway, turn right on the island divider, and regular white taxis are a short distance to the right on the second couple lanes of roadway. A sign reads "Regular Taxis" or something similar. Grab also has a station there, but since there were regular cabs available, and having read RK's report about cheaper fares with regular cabs than with Grab, I took a regular cab. This was at noon on Thursday. The meter worked fine, and the fare to the southern part of Malate was 140 pesos. How many places in the world can you get a taxi for those prices? YMMV for evening arrivals.

The more expensive coupon taxis still wait at the lower level down the long ramps to the next roadway. The only justifications for using them are that you almost never have to wait for one, they have larger cargo space if you are in a multiple party with more luggage, or some SYT is waiting for you among the Filipino masses beyond the fence of the waiting area. I can't imagine they are happy about regular white cabs siphoning off business.

[SaltyPete]

0/2 with freelancers here. One from LA Cafe and the other from Burglos street. I just feel so rushed with these girls I can't enjoy it. I understand they're working and have no interest in me but god damn pretend. First one wouldn't make out with me (light unenjoyable kissing "no experience") even though I said that I wanted it beforehand. I know some won't do it so I always bring it up. Then she tried to say we agreed to 2000ST not LT. Maybe she would have heard right if she fucking paid attention when I was talking to her. She wasn't my first choice but the two of the three girls I tried to talk to before her showed 0 interest and the other wanted 2500ST. I should have countered 2500-3000 LT in hindsight or grabbed her number in case she was free later. Anyway she was also gross as some skin on her feet were flaking off and she was texting her BF while in my room. Gave her 500 p and kicked her out. The 2nd was a massage from a girl who also didn't want to kiss me with tongue despite me making it clear I wanted it. I actually talked to her a bit before we got to my room and I could tell she wasn't interested in what I had to say but she at least put in an effort and fake laughed at some points so I figured she'd put in some effort. Massage was shit (but not the point so not a big deal) and she was on her period. I only asked her once when she was in my room and she pretended not to hear me. That's a rookie mistake on me I guess. I should have pressed it. I only knew to ask by reading the thread. Another bad time. I did fuck her (briefly) so I tried to give her 1500 p instead of 2000 p since it was a shit time but she wouldn't budge so I gave her 2000. I wanted her gone. She even tried to take a water on the way out. I wish I went to Bangkok. I'm on Day 3 hoping to finally blow a load here. It's not perfect but I've had some great massages there. I'll try wechat for today since everything is closed and I'm hoping when I get to Angeles city I'll have a better time. Anyway it's good to vent. For other newbies like me make sure to build a better rapport (I did the 2nd time but I think this is still useful), confirm what they will do (even though they will still lie), and ask if they are on their period. Also I'm not attractive but I'm neither old, ugly, or socially retarded (don't hold these last two days against me I'm still learning haha).Go to Kojax off Burgos Street (if they are closed that day, the sister bar xoxo downstairs will be open), or EDSA Entertainment in Pasay. Pay a little but more, and knock that first lay out of your system. You'll be able to take your time and make better decisions with other girls afterwards. I've never taken free lancers off the street, although I did pick up a couple of "cousins" in LA Cafe for a delightful threesome.

Your experience in Manila mirrors my last experience in Bangkok 7 years or so ago. I didn't have any better luck in AC on my first and only go, three years ago (2 nights there). I was thinking, damn I'm so ugly I can't get laid in an AC *****house. Sometimes you just have a bad run going.

[Dg8787]

In the unlikely event that anybody cares, here are the answers to my questions.

Yes, regular white taxis are now allowed to pick up passengers at the arrival level of Terminal One.

As you go outside the doors just past the customs counters and money changers, yellow cabs are, as always, to the immediate left. If you proceed across the first three or four lanes of roadway, turn right on the island divider, and regular white taxis are a short distance to the right on the second couple lanes of roadway. A sign reads "Regular Taxis" or something similar. Grab also has a station there, but since there were regular cabs available, and having read RK's report about cheaper fares with regular cabs than with Grab, I took a regular cab. This was at noon on Thursday. The meter worked fine, and the fare to the southern part of Malate was 140 pesos. How many places in the world can you get a taxi for those prices? YMMV for evening arrivals.

The more expensive coupon taxis still wait at the lower level down the long ramps to the next roadway. The only justifications for using them are that you almost never have to wait for one, they have larger cargo space if you are in a multiple party with more luggage, or some SYT is waiting for you among the Filipino masses beyond the fence of the waiting area. I can't imagine they are happy about regular white cabs siphoning off business.Thanks for the info. I will be looking for the White taxis on my next trip there landing at T1. I have had my fill of the Yellow taxis.

[Simmer]

0/2 with freelancers here.My experiences with FLs haven't been great either, unless you count the one who didn't even make it to work (in a Burgos bar) and agreed to come with me instead, so no barfine.

It's not to everybody's taste but I like Flight 168 near the airport. I've no idea about kissing since I'm not in to that, but at least you ought to get a reasonable massage and a decent shag. Damage would be very roughly P1500 each for the room and the girl (ie 3 k, or 4. 5 k for 2 girls).

[Red Kilt]

Thanks for the info. I will be looking for the White taxis on my next trip there landing at T1. I have had my fill of the Yellow taxis.Don't rule out any options Dg.

You don't know what the scene will be when you land.

There might be zero white taxis and a line of yellow ones at the time that you arrive, so be prepared to shift gears if required.

There has been some very bad press lately about taxis at the airport because a tourist blogger video'd a taxi driver who tried to scam her for a fixed fee trip (using laminated price lists etc). It was all laid out for everyone to see, and of course the outrage from the President down was extensive.

President has threatened to once again exclude white taxis from the airport if they start the gouging caper again.

Riders are again being urged to report errant drivers.

[Dg8787]

Don't rule out any options Dg.

You don't know what the scene will be when you land.

There might be zero white taxis and a line of yellow ones at the time that you arrive, so be prepared to shift gears if required.

There has been some very bad press lately about taxis at the airport because a tourist blogger video'd a taxi driver who tried to scam her for a fixed fee trip (using laminated price lists etc). It was all laid out for everyone to see, and of course the outrage from the President down was extensive.

President has threatened to once again exclude white taxis from the airport if they start the gouging caper again.

Riders are again being urged to report errant drivers.Good advice. I laugh every time they show me the "standard" price list. I really hope Prez Du30 can clean up the airport taxi scams. The best taxis I have had are the ones in Davao.

[Red Kilt]

Good advice. I laugh every time they show me the "standard" price list. I really hope Prez Du30 can clean up the airport taxi scams. The best taxis I have had are the ones in Davao.I forgot to mention that the scam happened during the trip and it was the regular meter taxi driver who had the laminated list of prices.

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/265905/p2fb-caught-on-cam-haley-dasovich-records-ph-taxi-driver-scamming-her-refusing-to-turn-on-meter

This is what happened to the crokked driver
https://news.mb.com.ph/2018/03/17/driver-nabbed-for-refusing-to-use-taxis-fare-meter/

Another one.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/metro/648231/taxi-driver-caught-scamming-taiwanese-blogger-arrested/story/

I suggest that when you get into a taxi at the airport in future you put on the video recording until the meter is set and you are on your way. I have never been scammed personally but it's a good reminder.

[BonusParts]

Great times continue. 0/3 in manila and 0/1 in Angeles. 3rd girl in Manila starts with 6 k and I say no thanks only going as high as 3 k. She says 4 k and we agree to 3500. I confirm she isn't on her period and when I get there we sit and talk for a while and lo and behold blood on the bed. She was cute so I said let's make and then give me blowjob for 1500. She said okay but starts sniffling so after a couple minutes of that she goes straight to give me head. It wasn't that good and after being so frustrated these last couple days I don't cum. She was sweet and I have no idea if she intentionally liked or what so I gave her 1500 and hoped for better in Angeles. I met her on DIA and we agree to 1500 for the night and as soon as she gets here she starts making digs at how cheap I am. She asks for a beer and chocolate and since I'm only paying 1500 I say fine. She made a few more comments and I just tell her you clearly are unhappy with the price we agreed so take 200 pesos for fare and get out. She says fine LT is okay. I tell her I don't like her attitude leave. She calls me cheap and says I wasted her time. I tell her I'm so glad I took a 5 hour flight to come here and have you bullshit me. Be happy I paid for your fare here and go fuck someone else. At 4 x bad experience I have to ask if I'm the problem but I try to be as up front and forward about everything as I can.

[Mr Enternational]

I met her on DIA and we agree to 1500 for the night and as soon as she gets here she starts making digs at how cheap I am. She asks for a beer and chocolate and since I'm only paying 1500 I say fine.I tell women off the bat that I am cheap so that is no surprise to anyone. I certainly will not be one to go broke over paying for pussy. Women are only going to tell you that to guilt you into giving them more money. If they thought you were not paying them enough then they wouldn't have come with you in the first place.

Only 1500? Maybe where you come from 1500 could be considered only. But in Angeles it is way more than only. In some bars the bar fine is 1500 and the girl only gets half of that. So keep that in mind next time you think 1500 is only.

P.S. After she said how cheap I was I would have told her she was right and changed the deal to 1000. That broad would have shut up and got to work for that 1500 then! You can't let these chicks outthink you man. I stay 3 steps ahead. That is why I don't have the complaints about divorce or child support that all these other guys have. I will never let a chick get the best of me.

[Soapy Smith]

I suggest that when you get into a taxi at the airport in future you put on the video recording until the meter is set and you are on your way. I have never been scammed personally but it's a good reminder.I've taken two regular cabs out of Terminal One in the last three days. I circumvented problems by asking before I got in the cab whether the meter works. Both times the driver laughed and said, "sure. " I suppose I ran some risk by allowing luggage to be placed in the trunk before I asked. Since there is an agent who writes out a little contract slip and the driver walks to the stand to get the destination from the agent, perhaps that is the more strategic time to ask about the meter. That way both the driver and agent are party to the communication.

[Soapy Smith]

The majority of mongers would disagree with the idea that they are on the hook if the hooker they paid to service them decides not to use birth control and became knocked up while conducting business. I think this conclusion is far from settled legally or otherwise. Interestingly, there are some NGO-type activities in Korea that are publicly-exposing Korean men who have left Filipinas with Kopino babies and provide no support for the child. Setting aside what could be legally compelled from paternity testing, I can't imagine many men would want their faces emblazoned on the website of such an organization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kopino

[Sock111]

I think this conclusion is far from settled legally or otherwise. Interestingly, there are some NGO-type activities in Korea that are publicly-exposing Korean men who have left Filipinas with Kopino babies and provide no support for the child. Setting aside what could be legally compelled from paternity testing, I can't imagine many men would want their faces emblazoned on the website of such an organization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KopinoOn the bright side, can't wait to see these kopino girls in the bar 18 years from now.

[BonusParts]

I tell women off the bat that I am cheap so that is no surprise to anyone. I certainly will not be one to go broke over paying for pussy. Women are only going to tell you that to guilt you into giving them more money. If they thought you were not paying them enough then they wouldn't have come with you in the first place.

Only 1500? Maybe where you come from 1500 could be considered only. But in Angeles it is way more than only. In some bars the bar fine is 1500 and the girl only gets half of that. So keep that in mind next time you think 1500 is only.

P.S. After she said how cheap I was I would have told her she was right and changed the deal to 1000. That broad would have shut up and got to work for that 1500 then! You can't let these chicks outthink you man. I stay 3 steps ahead. That is why I don't have the complaints about divorce or child support that all these other guys have. I will never let a chick get the best of me.She told me she gets 2500 LT from newbies and I just nodded. Then she asked me if I could pop twice so she could charge ST x 2. At that point I kicked her out (1500 magically become okay but she killed the mood) and I emptied my room's mini bar. She said I was a cheap Indian and left. She also texted me fuck off and I just replied god bless I don't really care what she thinks of me. I am cheap but she knew my offer coming in. She apologized the next day and I ignored it. I'm getting fleeced here. I came to the Philippines because the sex is cheaper here but I've spent 4000 pesos with not much to show. Anyway I'm in Angeles so I'll switch over to that thread.

[Macho Dik]

Dear All,

Taxi drivers from my experience on recent trip to Manila are exactly the same as that in BKK, They are serious scammers, don't want to flag down the meter and asking enormous rate! From Terminal one to terminal three via skyway asking for 300 php! I said no! Just flag down the meter! Along the way, complain a lot they when they return back to the line they have to pay again etc! I just ignore him And handed him a 40 php tips! I told him that is tip but I won't accept unreasonable demand!

Cheers,

MD.

[Member #4643]

I think this conclusion is far from settled legally or otherwise. Interestingly, there are some NGO-type activities in Korea that are publicly-exposing Korean men who have left Filipinas with Kopino babies and provide no support for the child. Setting aside what could be legally compelled from paternity testing, I can't imagine many men would want their faces emblazoned on the website of such an organization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KopinoI think that despite the hopes amd wishes of mongerers, if you leave a girl pregnant and paternity can be proved, the courts will ask you to pay.

That is true in every country that I have ever been to.

[Sammon]

I tell women off the bat that I am cheap so that is no surprise to anyone. I certainly will not be one to go broke over paying for pussy. Women are only going to tell you that to guilt you into giving them more money. If they thought you were not paying them enough then they wouldn't have come with you in the first place.

Only 1500? Maybe where you come from 1500 could be considered only. But in Angeles it is way more than only. In some bars the bar fine is 1500 and the girl only gets half of that. So keep that in mind next time you think 1500 is only.

P.S. After she said how cheap I was I would have told her she was right and changed the deal to 1000. That broad would have shut up and got to work for that 1500 then! You can't let these chicks outthink you man. I stay 3 steps ahead. That is why I don't have the complaints about divorce or child support that all these other guys have. I will never let a chick get the best of me.It used to be ok before. But nowadays girls shoot down any proposal below market rate. They would rather go hungry than accept less. I have seen it happen in LA cafe. Even uglies want higher reimbursement. Long time ago girls came from provinces and would agree any price. Even 1000 pesos was big money for them.

[Mr Enternational]

I think that despite the hopes amd wishes of mongerers, if you leave a girl pregnant and paternity can be proved, the courts will ask you to pay.

That is true in every country that I have ever been to.And what happens if the baby is blamed on you and it is not yours?

[Nolz7]

I was in LA Cafe yesterday late afternoon. Tons of fuglies. Spotted one cutie seating with the Japanese group. The guys seems to be more focused on their drinks.

[Macho Dik]

I was in LA Cafe yesterday late afternoon. Tons of fuglies. Spotted one cutie seating with the Japanese group. The guys seems to be more focused on their drinks.What I observed last time in LA cafe is that most of the cutiest prefer going second floor where mostly Japanese guys stay. I wonder these cutiest only look for jap! They never look into anyone downstairs!

How much really those Jap friends are paying? Or perhaps they like jap man due to they have the skills of AV actors?

Cheers,

MD.

[Macho Dik]

I think that despite the hopes amd wishes of mongerers, if you leave a girl pregnant and paternity can be proved, the courts will ask you to pay.

That is true in every country that I have ever been to.All those girls we fuck be it from La cafe, Burgos st, EDSA entertainment etc are being impregnated by their Filipinos boyfriends And just leave them alone to raise their kids thru our mongers money! I saw in LA cafe a girl that is half jap half Filipino, also an abandoned child from a jap mongers too. And as being reported here now more and more kopino is rising!

By the way, may be a disappointment to some, my sales lady was not pregnant, her period just gone these few days!

Cheers,

MD.

[BonusParts]

What I observed last time in LA cafe is that most of the cutiest prefer going second floor where mostly Japanese guys stay. I wonder these cutiest only look for jap! They never look into anyone downstairs!

How much really those Jap friends are paying? Or perhaps they like jap man due to they have the skills of AV actors?

Cheers,

MD.The Japanese don't haggle. Maybe the mongers do but even then I doubt as much as us.

[Tagalog2016]

All those girls we fuck be it from La cafe, Burgos st, EDSA entertainment etc are being impregnated by their Filipinos boyfriends And just leave them alone to raise their kids thru our mongers money! I saw in LA cafe a girl that is half jap half Filipino, also an abandoned child from a jap mongers too. And as being reported here now more and more kopino is rising!

By the way, may be a disappointment to some, my sales lady was not pregnant, her period just gone these few days!

Cheers,

MD.Pinays breed like rabbits, and that is not a big deal for them. It doesn't really matter too much, whether they have one child less, or one child more. They use a baby like an excuse, or like a weapon towards gullible western guys to extract from them as much profit as possible.

A common scam is to say it's yours, while in fact a real paternity could belong to indefinite number of men, both local and foreigners. If pinays will appeal to your sad, you should always keep in mind, that whole generations of Filipinos are used to rise children in poverty, and they could manage without your support and money.

Of course a baby is common duty, and everyone decides for himself, whether he is capable and ready to take responsibility for his careless creampie, or not.

I doubt, that in practice someone in Philippines can sue you in regards of alleged paternity. If a girl gives birth alone, a name of a father of a baby remains blank, no matter what she would tell to a doctor.

P.S. I am glad, that your sales lady is not pregnant. I assume, you still keep contact with her. Did she mention money, or her hardships already?

[Pekkakoo]

I have booked Manila flights for a 2 weeks stay in May. I'm thinking about renting an airbnb condo in Makati but 2 weeks there might be too much as there is nothing much to see and do (drinks, girls, shopping, no sun). So I was thinking maybe to split the time 1 week in Makati and 1 week somewhere else. What would you suggest for a one week beach getaway from Manila? I would probably have chosen Boracay because of its night life but now it is closing. It would be ideal to find a girl in Manila to go with me but I can't book flights before I know that and if you book the day before then the flights are very expensive. I have been to Bohol and Palawan but they might be too quiet with the risk of going there alone. Also in Sabang I have once been. It might be possible of course. I was last time in Batangas but it was not so good at least that place on the coast. Also just flying airasia to Bangkok and then pattaya but it would have its own hassle in traveling and leaving the country. Subic bay? Or is it too quiet too? Or just stay in Manila hmm.

[Transporter]

I was in LA Cafe yesterday late afternoon. Tons of fuglies. Spotted one cutie seating with the Japanese group. The guys seems to be more focused on their drinks.Mostly Koreans up there unless the old invasion plotted a coup.

[Soapy Smith]

Mostly Koreans up there unless the old invasion plotted a coup.It's possible some of our posters don't know the difference in appearance between Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese, nor differences in their spoken languages.

[Member #4558]

I have booked Manila flights for a 2 weeks stay in May. I'm thinking about renting an airbnb condo in Makati but 2 weeks there might be too much as there is nothing much to see and do (drinks, girls, shopping, no sun).Hmmm well while I agree with you it isn't much to see and do outside what you allready mention there is defenitly sun in Makati as well and a lot of shitty weather too. I have managed to get quite a tan (and sunburns as well) from just residing a few days next to the pool at the Shangri-la Makati as an example.

Even if I am not at all interested in anything outside what you mention, I am sure there are something to do. I am sure there are a few shitty museums, shooting ranges, parks etc. And there are a few golfcorses in and around BGC area, planespotting at Naia. Girls tends to occupy most guys really. If you want some decent nice kind of a high end place to unwind I recommend Cebu Mactan and stay at either Mövenpick or Shangri-la hotel (private so so beaches). Its close enough to Cebu's nightlife / downtown but far enough away from it so you feel its a holiday destination (and only 20 min+ from the airport).

[Macho Dik]

P.S. I am glad, that your sales lady is not pregnant. I assume, you still keep contact with her. Did she mention money, or her hardships already?Hi there!

Yes, still in contact with her since I left, as of now not yet mentioning those things yet but I am expecting sooner or later will touch those topics! Actually, she has works, she just so horny at bed for me to drop her that fast. Since I left she send me several nude pictures after my insisting request. She seems to show a real relationship she want. As I said, I just can't ignore her now as she is damn hot in bed and very very wet! She can cum several times at night! Now I am returning back to Philippines on a sideline business trip soon, she promised to take a leave at work & stay with me. Gosh expecting full of sex, need to prepare as she is a sex machines!

Cheers,

MD.

[Chocha Monger]

Pinays breed like rabbits, and that is not a big deal for them. It doesn't really matter too much, whether they have one child less, or one child more. They use a baby like an excuse, or like a weapon towards gullible western guys to extract from them as much profit as possible.

A common scam is to say it's yours, while in fact a real paternity could belong to indefinite number of men, both local and foreigners. If pinays will appeal to your sad, you should always keep in mind, that whole generations of Filipinos are used to rise children in poverty, and they could manage without your support and money.

Of course a baby is common duty, and everyone decides for himself, whether he is capable and ready to take responsibility for his careless creampie, or not.

I doubt, that in practice someone in Philippines can sue you in regards of alleged paternity. If a girl gives birth alone, a name of a father of a baby remains blank, no matter what she would tell to a doctor.

P.S. I am glad, that your sales lady is not pregnant. I assume, you still keep contact with her. Did she mention money, or her hardships already?Foreigners overreact when a Pinay gets pregnant. They do not know that today's careless cream pie is tomorrow's star spotlight dancer. Even if the monger runs, the girl wins, as a mestiza daughter will grow up into a working girl who can command fuck fees several times that of her pure-blooded indigenous sisters. The same is true for a mestizo son, as he will be in demand with the Flip gays and OFW girls looking for a handsome mestizo to support with remittances.

The girls really do not care if the foreigner runs or not unless they are greedy gold diggers, and even those have no recourse whatsoever again a foreigner. The Filipinos do not provide for the girls they impregnate because it is the responsibility of her tribe / relatives to raise the child. No Pinay ever raises a child on her own. Furthermore, children sired on a Pinay by a foreign monger will inevitably grow up to be loyal to their mother, and regard their foreign father as nothing more than a reckless cash dispensing walking penis. Many mongers will eventually become alienated by their spawn's materialistic attitude towards them.

[Nolz7]

Once again I dropped by LA Cafe around 6 pm. Things were picking up. There were bunch of 7's. Few extreme fuglies muscled their way through the thin crowd. I saw one 9 but she quickly disappeared. I had a good conversation with one of the ladies and stambled on a website full of pinays pay for play. I am not sure about link policy on this forum so of interested just pm me. I will try my luck again tonight at LA Cafe.

[Franga]

So I was thinking maybe to split the time 1 week in Makati and 1 week somewhere else. What would you suggest for a one week beach getaway from Manila?You could try Camiguin Island. Fly to Cagayan do Oro and it's a few hours by bus from there and a short ferry trip. Take a trip out to White island which is a sand bar close to the coast with snorkeling, visit a giant clam sanctuary, go to the hot spring baths, and drive around the island.

[Tagalog2016]

So I was thinking maybe to split the time 1 week in Makati and 1 week somewhere else. What would you suggest for a one week beach getaway from Manila?
You could try Camiguin Island. Fly to Cagayan do Oro and it's a few hours by bus from there and a short ferry trip. Take a trip out to White island which is a sand bar close to the coast with snorkeling, visit a giant clam sanctuary, go to the hot spring baths, and drive around the island.If you fly into Mindanao via Cagayan de Oro airport, you can also take a trip to Iligan city which is located just 1.5 HR drive from the the airport. CDO itself is located 35 km from the airport to the opposite direction. In Iligan you can visit Maria Cristina falls and Tinago falls which are both stunning (for Philippines). If you want to bang a tight wet pussy there, make sure to make arrangements in advance via dating site. There are a lot of nurses waiting for white cock.

Despite it is rather un-touristy place, always stay alert, since girls from Iligan have the same inborn itch for money and makings of a scammer, like other pinays from anywhere else.

[D Cups]

Ya, I'd recommend Subic. Or go back to Sabang.


I have booked Manila flights for a 2 weeks stay in May. I'm thinking about renting an airbnb condo in Makati but 2 weeks there might be too much as there is nothing much to see and do (drinks, girls, shopping, no sun). So I was thinking maybe to split the time 1 week in Makati and 1 week somewhere else. What would you suggest for a one week beach getaway from Manila? I would probably have chosen Boracay because of its night life but now it is closing. It would be ideal to find a girl in Manila to go with me but I can't book flights before I know that and if you book the day before then the flights are very expensive. I have been to Bohol and Palawan but they might be too quiet with the risk of going there alone. Also in Sabang I have once been. It might be possible of course. I was last time in Batangas but it was not so good at least that place on the coast. Also just flying airasia to Bangkok and then pattaya but it would have its own hassle in traveling and leaving the country. Subic bay? Or is it too quiet too? Or just stay in Manila hmm.

[Asian Geek]

Nolz,

Thanks for the post. Would you mind sharing the pay for play site? I am coming to Manila end of this month.

AG.


Once again I dropped by LA Cafe around 6 pm. Things were picking up. There were bunch of 7's. Few extreme fuglies muscled their way through the thin crowd. I saw one 9 but she quickly disappeared. I had a good conversation with one of the ladies and stambled on a website full of pinays pay for play. I am not sure about link policy on this forum so of interested just pm me. I will try my luck again tonight at LA Cafe.

[AussieGaigin]

Nolz,

Thanks for the post. Would you mind sharing the pay for play site? I am coming to Manila end of this month.

AG.He did suggest YOU PM him for info.