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WestCoast1
02-22-19, 22:00
That's a good price. In my last trip to the Philippines in 2007 I paid $600 SFO - MNL return on Philippines Airlines and I thought that it was good then.Time of year, and closeness to departure date when booking make the difference. Flying in / out of Phils in December / January during the Christmas holidays is most expensive (have had trouble finding under $1700 then). Flying in the off-peak times can easily find a number of airlines in the $600-$800 range, and that is when those ticket prices occurred. Your 2007 flight was a *long* time ago. Your SFO / LAX. MNL return nonstop is still around on PAL, but at considerably higher prices. You can still find those prices in the off-season with several of the PROC airlines. Previously, until a few years ago, flying PAL internationally was the bottom of the barrel -- service and food onboard was terrible, the aircraft were non-amenitied, and the checkin process was rough. Things have improved.
How would you rate your overall experiences flying airlines based in the PROC? Of the big 4 (Air China, China Eastern, China Southern, Hainan), I have heard the best things about Hainan, and more recently about China Southern. I have not heard such great things about Air China or China Eastern. There's also China Airlines by the way, which is based in the ROC (Taiwan).Have flown China Eastern, Southern, and Air China. All appear to be more on the order of budget airlines. Aircraft appear to be low-amenitied. For example, on seatguru dot com, you will find those aircraft might not have a power connection for each seat for your device. Seat pitch (distance to the next seat in front of yours in inches, often 30 or 31 inches) and width will be the smallest possible. Compare with Korean Airlines 34" seat pitch for their A380 fleet, and overall better cabin service crews.
I am a relative newbie to Manila but will be going there every other month starting this April. I will be living in a short term rental arranged by my firm so I cannot bring ladies there. While I am willing to learn what websites help you find in-calls, it does not sound like the escort websites are developed as in Singapore or the many BKK spas, BJ bars, and brothels are as easy to find in Manila. What I want is the ability to stop in somewhere, enjoy a couple big beers to start. I am happy to buy a girl drink and then take her to a back room like in Mexico City's Zona Rosa. Is this an option? I have seen reports of ghetto brothels like in Angeles side streets (under bridges). However, I would stand out way too much walking around trying to find such places. While a high end brothel would be a less regular treat, I am looking for a place with a girl and a private room where I can come and go in less than an hour. I know we cannot recommend places but would value any general information or pointing me to reviews of distinction where I can start developing potential regular haunts!The thing about Manila is that is doesn't really have a Sauna or FKK setup that I'm aware of.
Basically to get on-site FS there are two options. Spas and KTVs, there are a few notable places that run both a SPA and a KTV at the same place those are Kremlin & Classmate in Quezon City in front of Fisher mall, Air force 1 and Flight 168 in Paranaque not too far from NAIA and there are a few more like this setup. The KTV part of the busibess will only be open at nights while the Spa will also run all day. The spa is a fishbowl, no beer, point and click, pick a chick fuck her for an hour and leave. The KTV is where things get really expensive, really beautiful girls on stage, buy them drinks, if it's your thing take them to a private room and sing with them. If you build enough of a rapport, some of them may fuck you in one of the adjacent spa rooms. These tend to become VERY expensive nights (between 10-20 k depending on how much everyone is drinking and how long the foreplay in the KTV takes, abd there's a catch as the longer the time in KTV, the better the chances she'll agree to join in the spa).
There are also many KTVs on Roxas blvd that mainly attract Filipinos. Girls will dance topless on stage, again youll pay for drinks and an hourly rate for every girl that joins your table. They do have private FKK rooms in which you can fuck a dancer on premise, those don't have beds but the staff are nice and will bring a couple of sofas together expecting a tip. I have found one of the sexiest girls I've been with in a KTV on Roxas. The mama initially quoted me 7 k for FS after already having a pretty large bill for drinks, I laughed at her face, we settled for 2. 5 k.
I don't know of other on-premise options however any bar girl, FL or Casa girl will go to a short time hotel with no issues.
Enjoy Manila!
I don't know of other on-premise options however any bar girl, FL or Casa girl will go to a short time hotel with no issues.
Enjoy Manila!There are also the bars on Burgos that allow onsite BBBJ or even FS.
I'd agree that the "where to go" question is pretty irrelevant as regardless of where the girl is from, she will know of nearby ST hotels.
There are also the bars on Burgos that allow onsite BBBJ or even FS.
I'd agree that the "where to go" question is pretty irrelevant as regardless of where the girl is from, she will know of nearby ST hotels.I think the only bar on Burgos that I got suggested to "go upstairs" in was Moulin Rouge and that was 3 or 4 years ago. Do you have information of other bars that offer on premise service?
I think the only bar on Burgos that I got suggested to "go upstairs" in was Moulin Rouge and that was 3 or 4 years ago. Do you have information of other bars that offer on premise service?Sorry, I'm hopeless at remembering names.
Walking away from Makati Ave past Bottoms you have 3 bars side by side on the other side of the road. I had a double BJ in one of those. They were adamant that no FS available on site. Great BJ but the girls were not stunners. Maybe Rascals but don't quote me. Look for a glass booth off to the left as you enter the bar.
Continuing down past Ringside, on the other side of the road, opposite the Korean Church is a dark and dingy bar that offers FS behind curtains. Again the girls were nothing special looks wise.
Sorry I cant be more specific.
Enjoy. G.
Sorry, I'm hopeless at remembering names.Continuing down past Ringside, on the other side of the road, opposite the Korean Church is a dark and dingy bar that offers FS behind curtains. Again the girls were nothing special looks wise.That bar is called Wowowow.
Hey brothers,
Planning my fun mongering splurge trip next week Friday 1 March to Wednesday 6 March.
First ever to Manila. I want to have my load poured our 5-6 times each day. So need to find 20+ pinays in these 120 hrs of my trip!I wish you nothing but good luck! But that sounds like a logistical nightmare to achieve. IMO it takes many trips under your belt with established contacts to even get close to be successful with that plan considering the trappic and size of Manila and the relentless unreliability and lateness of the pinay species.
Hey brothers,
Planning my fun mongering splurge trip next week Friday 1 March to Wednesday 6 March.
First ever to Manila. I want to have my load poured our 5-6 times each day. So need to find 20+ pinays in these 120 hrs of my trip!
I have RTFF and understand Kojax, XOXO, EDSA & LA Cafe seems my best bet. Yet I am quite intrigued on how to find really small, slim small be chicks and if can getting young ones would be cherry on the top.
I am a bit crazy when it comes to selection and would rather spend the load with hands then on a not so happening GFE pinay.
Any seniors willing to help this poor soul and make my days happier.Age old equation. Time and money. If you have the money, then I am sure it can be done in a timely manner.
WestCoast1
02-23-19, 18:55
I think the only bar on Burgos that I got suggested to "go upstairs" in was Moulin Rouge and that was 3 or 4 years ago. Do you have information of other bars that offer on premise service?Dimples, located next door to Go Bananas (GB is on the corner of Burgos / Kalayaan). Inside and next to the wet bar are two long skinny tables, with stools alongside each table. Sitting at those tables, turned 90 degrees to face the stage, or 90 degrees opposite to face the CR in the back. Orient towards the back and the CR. Opposite the CR is a long padded bench in a very dark area. That's the #spewforthbeej area. Usually p1000 talks a girl into some adult fun time there. Errrr. . . So I'm told.
Transporter
02-23-19, 19:49
Hey brothers,
Planning my fun mongering splurge trip next week Friday 1 March to Wednesday 6 March.
First ever to Manila. I want to have my load poured our 5-6 times each day. So need to find 20+ pinays in these 120 hrs of my trip!
I have RTFF and understand Kojax, XOXO, EDSA & LA Cafe seems my best bet. Yet I am quite intrigued on how to find really small, slim small be chicks and if can getting young ones would be cherry on the top.
I am a bit crazy when it comes to selection and would rather spend the load with hands then on a not so happening GFE pinay.
Any seniors willing to help this poor soul and make my days happier.You might want to pm me for this one.
Had a great time in Manila for six days. Stayed closer to airport and initially thought stay would be too dry. But luckily got two friendly drivers (Eric and Geo) who showed me around the city and it's night life everyday. The deal is I would pay them 1000 peso and they will take me around, show me the places, hang out with me and assist in getting contacts and finally drop me back in the hotel after 3 hours. Was able to visit Burgos, LA Cafe, Havana cafe, three casa's, pubs around Edsa and also few local bars near airport road. Was able to understand the places targeting Arabs, Indians, Koreans and locals. Got some gems at extra cost but worth the money. I can say that staying near airport is not that bad if you have time and willing to shell out a bit extra. Having a local with you at times help in exploring new places. Will come soon.Nice post. Always a good idea to have a local dude working on your behalf. That was my strategy in Korea to either get into place I normally couldn't or get Korean girls that were normally off limits to foreigners.
How would you rate your overall experiences flying airlines based in the PROC? Of the big 4 (Air China, China Eastern, China Southern, Hainan), I have heard the best things about Hainan, and more recently about China Southern. I have not heard such great things about Air China or China Eastern. There's also China Airlines by the way, which is based in the ROC (Taiwan).I love Korean Air and always heard bad things about Chinese Airlines. That said, read something the other day that at least some flights on China Eastern are operated by Delta. Not sure if that means the flight is on a Delta-maintained plane or what. Anyone know? When I Google the best airlines, they're usually European. The exception is Qatar Airways.
Being "old fashion" myself, my current prefered methods are facebook, wechat, and the business card (paper with name and number).How popular is Wechat in the Phils? I used to use it to chat with Chinese only.
I love Korean Air and always heard bad things about Chinese Airlines. That said, read something the other day that at least some flights on China Eastern are operated by Delta. Not sure if that means the flight is on a Delta-maintained plane or what. Anyone know? When I Google the best airlines, they're usually European. The exception is Qatar Airways.Unless the European airlines have changed recently they are far from the best. The middle East Airlines and the larger Asian airlines are generally better. I have flown Air China a bit. They are not great but if you have Star Gold status you will often get seated in premium economy. Korean, Asiana, Singapore, Thai all have good planes and service. I have only flown China Southern internally and was pleasantly surprised by the room and quality of aircraft.
I love Korean Air and always heard bad things about Chinese Airlines. That said, read something the other day that at least some flights on China Eastern are operated by Delta. Not sure if that means the flight is on a Delta-maintained plane or what. Anyone know? When I Google the best airlines, they're usually European. The exception is Qatar Airways.
I almost fly EVA Air on flights from Asia to North America and Europe, and generally on flights within Asia. They are quite good - especially the seat comfort in their Elite/Premium Economy class and their Royal Laurel/Business class. I can't think of any negative experience in 12+ years of flying with them. Sometimes will fly Air China between HKG and PEK. They have also been very nice flights typically. The last flight from PEK back to HKG, they upgraded me to Business Class and the cabin steward apologized a few times for the delay and rough flight (a tropical storm was passing near HKG at the time) as if he had any influence over delays and turbulence. He was quite personable and enjoyed chatting with him during the flight.
I love Korean Air and always heard bad things about Chinese Airlines. That said, read something the other day that at least some flights on China Eastern are operated by Delta. Not sure if that means the flight is on a Delta-maintained plane or what. Anyone know? When I Google the best airlines, they're usually European. The exception is Qatar Airways.[Deleted by Admin] SkyTrax is the authority on airline ratings, and 7 of their top 10 are based in Asia! That would be 9 out of the top 10 if you want to include the Middle East as part of Asia, which technically it is: https://www.worldairlineawards.com/. I don't know where you've been Googling, but I recommend everybody to stick with the leader.
How popular is Wechat in the Phils? I used to use it to chat with Chinese only.It is widely used by girls in Manila. Lot of lady boys and please insist on video chat prior to finalising your meeting. Otherwise you will get 10-15 ladies available most of the times.
I love Korean Air and always heard bad things about Chinese Airlines. That said, read something the other day that at least some flights on China Eastern are operated by Delta. Not sure if that means the flight is on a Delta-maintained plane or what. Anyone know? When I Google the best airlines, they're usually European. The exception is Qatar Airways.I've got an 'in' to the industry and have never heard of Delta planes being wet-leased to China Eastern. They do, however, code share. So you might buy a ticket on China Southern and find part of the trip is on a Delta plane. Vice versa as well.
BrainDrain
02-24-19, 22:50
How popular is Wechat in the Phils? I used to use it to chat with Chinese only.WeChat is useful in Ph due to it's Nearby feature allowing you to make contact and be contacted by geographically close opportunity targets.
For general goto p-2-p contact, the many girls seem to have Viber.
I recently used WeChat in regional United Kingdom and it is dead.
BD.
Transporter
02-24-19, 23:11
How popular is Wechat in the Phils? I used to use it to chat with Chinese only.Wechat is "awesome".
Just as long as you are prepared to work through the baklas.
WeChat is useful in Ph due to it's Nearby feature allowing you to make contact and be contacted by geographically close opportunity targets.
For general goto p-2-p contact, the many girls seem to have Viber.
I recently used WeChat in regional United Kingdom and it is dead.
BD.I see. Thanks for the info. I used it one time to chat with a Chinese woman, but that fell apart. BTW, I have an LG G6 Android phone. If I use it in the Phils, would I need a different SIM card or other "adjustments?
Wechat is "awesome".
Just as long as you are prepared to work through the baklas.Baklas? Does that mean bullshit or something similar?
SkyTrax is the authority on airline ratings, and 7 of their top 10 are based in Asia! That would be 9 out of the top 10 if you want to include the Middle East as part of Asia, which technically it is: https://www.worldairlineawards.com/. I don't know where you've been Googling, but I recommend everybody to stick with the leader.Cool. Had never heard of Skytrax but I'm on it now.
Baklas? Does that mean bullshit or something similar?"Bakla" is tagalog for "ladyboy" or "gay".
I see. Thanks for the info. I used it one time to chat with a Chinese woman, but that fell apart. BTW, I have an LG G6 Android phone. If I use it in the Phils, would I need a different SIM card or other "adjustments?Wifi work for Wechat.
CreateNinnov8
02-25-19, 08:53
Hey bro,
Your inbox is full. Can't PM you.
You might want to pm me for this one.
BrainDrain
02-25-19, 13:15
I see. Thanks for the info. I used it one time to chat with a Chinese woman, but that fell apart. BTW, I have an LG G6 Android phone. If I use it in the Phils, would I need a different SIM card or other "adjustments?Check that your phone is not locked to your usual carrier. You will need to be able to insert a Philippines SIM card and carrier settings. WiFi will work fine.
Transporter
02-25-19, 18:41
Wifi work for Wechat.Wifi will work fine, but it would be better to use 4 G or LTE and open your location setting so that you can take full advantage of wechat everywhere you go.
Check that your phone is not locked to your usual carrier. You will need to be able to insert a Philippines SIM card and carrier settings. WiFi will work fine.1. Make sure your CP is unlocked.
2. Make sure your CP works on GSM network.
3. You will need Philippine SIM card to text others in Philippines.
Any questions on the above can be answered by Mr. Google.
Member #4644
02-25-19, 20:22
Kojax: Disappointed after all the hype. Girls are fine but don't seem any better than other comparable places. Staff service wasn't good at all so I felt no need to spend any more money here and left without taking anyone.
XOXO: Much better attitudes, but very busy on a weekday. Spent a fair bit on drinks but didn't take anyone as I wasn't feeling up to it.
Plan be: Much friendlier than Kojax. Some decent looking girls working. Took a 21 year old One for the evening that I really liked for 3.5 k plus 4 k tip. Enjoyable.
EDSA: Cheaper than the others excluding tip. Location is a pain to get to. A lot quieter than P Burgos and you will get a lot more attention from everyone. Girls are decent but are a little older and many are less desirable (smokers, tattoos, more likely to have children). Many girls expect a bit more generosity due to all the Japanese patrons. Found an okay 27 year old Girl for 2.5 k plus 5 k tip.
Manila Courtesans: Good alternative if traffic is terrible or you don't feel like drinking. Not that much more expensive considering the convenience.
Overall, the girls in Angeles were more consistent and the overall nightlife scene is just more enjoyable. It's also very cheap at 3.5 k + optional tip. The Dollhouse group bars were my favorite. High Society is also good but the action starts way too late for my schedule. It's just a shame that hotels in Manila are light years better. ABC hotel didn't impress me and the prices are higher than Manila considering the quality.
Check that your phone is not locked to your usual carrier. You will need to be able to insert a Philippines SIM card and carrier settings. WiFi will work fine.Thanks. Are SIM cards easy to find for my LG G6 phone in Manila? Cost?
Manila Courtesans: Good alternative if traffic is terrible or you don't feel like drinking. Not that much more expensive considering the convenience.
What is Manila Courtesans? An agency?
Transporter
02-26-19, 02:43
Thanks. Are SIM cards easy to find for my LG G6 phone in Manila? Cost?I am not familiar with the LG G6 but if it has a SIM card on GSM and is not locked then you are good to go. Everywhere sells them, I usually just grab them at a convenience store like 7 11. Also buy a load card and if not busy ask the attendant to set it up for you. If it is busy slide them, a small note and ask if they can set it up for you if you don't have confidence. If she is pretty ask her to put her number in also.
Almost everywhere sells SIM cards however not everywhere will have the carrier of your choice or the SIM card size that your phone takes.
Transporter
02-26-19, 02:46
What is Manila Courtesans? An agency?One of the many online agencies.
You can select from pics online and see the pricing.
Keep in mind there is a little upsell in the room, but just consider that the tip.
If your choices are Burgos or the complex, then agencies will be cheaper.
Transporter
02-26-19, 02:47
Hey bro,
Your inbox is full. Can't PM you.Just cleaned it.
I have been using DIA and have had very good success. I am a very old guy so I prefer a more mature girl with nice body from 29 to 40 yo, they are easy to find, cheap, and oh so willing, Unfortunately some fall in love after second date because an old western guy is the holy grail of catches for them so tears at end but I always stress to them ahead of time that I am not looking for a wife or serious relationship after an earlier misadventure in which I was not clear left me feeling guilty. I think I will only have a single date night from now on to avoid any misconceptions that I might care for her besides what we do. One came over 5 hour trip stayed two days, she has a very good job and refused any money from me, she left in tears and says she will be celibate from now on, Of course there are exceptions, like the lady security guard who will come anytime I want her after her work. She will get naked on her knees in front of my chair and suck and lick my cock while I use my laptop and phone for as long as I want. I say I am ready now and she is quickly up on the bed spread for me or more sucking if I want. After I finish cip (yes, Raw dog) I give her 2000 and away she goes so happy and smiling.
Engine Driver
02-26-19, 11:03
After I finish cip (yes, Raw dog) I give her 2000 and away she goes so happy and smiling.Unless you've been snipped, don't go wandering around Tondo in 9 months time. A little bastard fork truck will be demanding his US passport.
Seriously, nice report. It's as if us old cunts have new lease of life when we land at NAIA for a mongering run.
I have been using DIA and have had very good success. I am a very old guy so I prefer a more mature girl with nice body from 29 to 40 yo, they are easy to find, cheap, and oh so willing,
Seriously, nice report. It's as if us old cunts have new lease of life when we land at NAIA for a mongering run.You do realise while you old farts are out rooting everything that walks young blokes are complaining that the PI has gone to shit and it's impossible to find a good root.
Difference of opinion or cause and effect. . . ? LOL.
Enjoy. G.
You do realise while you old farts are out rooting everything that walks Hey, I resemble that remark. Actually I am picky, not chubby or fat, have 2 arms and 2 legs, and sorta pretty with a submissive streak. I guess that's about it. BTW I had a vasectomy years ago so worries there. ].
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....................... She will get naked on her knees in front of my chair and suck and lick my cock while I use my laptop and phone for as long as I want. ..................Reminds me of a GF I had many moons ago, she would suck me dry while I watched porn on the computer. Ahhh good days before my full fledged mongering days.
Kojax: Disappointed after all the hype. Girls are fine but don't seem any better than other comparable places. Staff service wasn't good at all so I felt no need to spend any more money here and left without taking anyone. XOXO: Much better attitudes, but very busy on a weekday. Spent a fair bit on drinks but didn't take anyone as I wasn't feeling up to it. PlanB: Much friendlier than Kojax. Some decent looking girls working. Took a 21 year old One for the evening that I really liked for 3.5 k plus 4 k tip. Enjoyable. ABC hotel didn't impress me and the prices are higher than Manila considering the quality.I find this funny since the same staff that works at Kojax (open Thursday thru Saturdays for sure) also works at XOXO LOL! Same with the girls LOLOLOL! Same ones! The only thing is that the real hotties don't show up until like Friday and Saturday nights at Kojax, which is the upstairs bar. Maybe you caught them when folks were in a bad mood? I would say that on most days, I would rank PlanB higher, but Kojax absolutely took it up another notch optics-wise on the weekends. And, I won't say that ABC is the best hotel in the world, but I do think it's one of the two best in Angeles City. Nice staff, nice rooms in the new wing that aren't too gaudy (IMO), decent food for AC, rooftop pool, walking distance to all the action if you're in good enough shape. A good place to stay in AC versus one of the many, many dumps you will find there.
One of the many online agencies.
You can select from pics online and see the pricing.
Keep in mind there is a little upsell in the room, but just consider that the tip.
If your choices are Burgos or the complex, then agencies will be cheaper.Googled it and saw Camille on the site. Wow, 4500 pesos plus 1000 for transportation? Thought the Phils was cheaper than that.
I have been using DIA and have had very good success. I am a very old guy so I prefer a more mature girl with nice body from 29 to 40 yo, they are easy to find, cheap, and oh so willing, Unfortunately some fall in love after second date because an old western guy is the holy grail of catches for them so tears at end but I always stress to them ahead of time that I am not looking for a wife or serious relationship after an earlier misadventure in which I was not clear left me feeling guilty. Are these ladies "falling in love" in hopes for a green card or?
I am not familiar with the LG G6 but if it has a SIM card on GSM and is not locked then you are good to go. Everywhere sells them, I usually just grab them at a convenience store like 7 11. Also buy a load card and if not busy ask the attendant to set it up for you. If it is busy slide them, a small note and ask if they can set it up for you if you don't have confidence. If she is pretty ask her to put her number in also.
Almost everywhere sells SIM cards however not everywhere will have the carrier of your choice or the SIM card size that your phone takes.How do these card loads work? X amount of phone / Internet access for x number of pesos?
WestCoast1
02-27-19, 03:42
How do these card loads work? X amount of phone / Internet access for x number of pesos?Yes. Load it with p100, and each txt will consume 1 peso. Each phone call will consume about p6 per minute. Using data (no wifi) will consume also. Smart and Globe are the 2 most common SIM cards, they work about the same way. There are promo deals; for example p50 will get you unlimited data for about 3 days.
Yes. Load it with p100, and each txt will consume 1 peso. Each phone call will consume about p6 per minute. Using data (no wifi) will consume also. Smart and Globe are the 2 most common SIM cards, they work about the same way. There are promo deals; for example p50 will get you unlimited data for about 3 days.Muchas gracias, heavy on the muchas. Does data imply both phone calls and text or?
Muchas gracias, heavy on the muchas. Does data imply both phone calls and text or?The initial load eg the 100 p that WC1 mentioned, can be used for local and international calls and SMS and data. Obviously international calls and SMS are far more expensive than local ones. On top of this, the telcos offer packages that bundle services together at much better rates eg you might get 3 days of data, 50 SMS and 100 local call minutes. I don't use calls or sms much in country as I find most girls give WhatsApp or Viber numbers so most of my contact is through those even if it's just a quick messgae to see if they are free that day.
As a guide to cost, for a 1 month stay I top up 500 p at the airport and then use 300 p of that load to buy a 1. 6 Gb data package and 100 free text valid for one month. I also get free minutes but can't remember how many but it's enough to last me the whole trip. If I've got hotel wifi and don't watch videos on mobile data, I'll leave with load still on the mobile phone at the end of the trip.
Note that some of the "Unlimited" packages actually throttle to insanely slow after about 1 Gb per day.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
02-27-19, 05:39
As a guide to cost, for a 1 month stay I top up 500 p at the airport and then use 300 p of that load to buy a 1. 6 Gb data package and 100 free text valid for one month. I also get free minutes but can't remember how many but it's enough to last me the whole trip. If I've got hotel wifi and don't watch videos on mobile data, I'll leave with load still on the mobile phone at the end of the trip.
Note that some of the "Unlimited" packages actually throttle to insanely slow after about 1 Gb per day.I get 1 month unlimited (unli) data for p999. This is good for 800 mb per day at 4 gLTE speeds. After 800 mb in any given day, the speed throttles back to 2 g speed (very slow). It resets back to 800 mb and 4 gLTE speed at midnight. For about 500 pesos more, I get unlimited txts to all networks (Globe and Smart are separate networks) and about 100 minutes of calls to all networks (I can go months without making a phone call, but its nice to have some minutes worth in case of emergency). If the hotel wifi goes south (gosh that's never happened), and I've got a 4 gLTE signal, hotspotting my computer to my phone for web browsing is great (not so great for streaming, 800 mb is not enough to stream an entire movie).
NL: Data does not imply either phone calls or txts. Data implies web usage. You use data to access the Internet when you don't have access to wifi.
Are these ladies "falling in love" in hopes for a green card or?Hell I don't know, it is just sometimes a ***** to get them out the door, they say they want to have me for a boyfriend exclusive to only them, want to cook, clean, and care, for me forever, OMG. Too much drama for me. Could be my age and the ages I am pulling, Also I treat them very well and respectful and they love that. It's a weakness of mine and I know it. They are in that desperate for a man age window, That can be good and bad.
Member #4644
02-28-19, 01:36
I find this funny since the same staff that works at Kojax (open Thursday thru Saturdays for sure) also works at XOXO LOL! Same with the girls LOLOLOL! Same ones! The only thing is that the real hotties don't show up until like Friday and Saturday nights at Kojax, which is the upstairs bar. Maybe you caught them when folks were in a bad mood? I would say that on most days, I would rank PlanB higher, but Kojax absolutely took it up another notch optics-wise on the weekends. And, I won't say that ABC is the best hotel in the world, but I do think it's one of the two best in Angeles City. Nice staff, nice rooms in the new wing that aren't too gaudy (IMO), decent food for AC, rooftop pool, walking distance to all the action if you're in good enough shape. A good place to stay in AC versus one of the many, many dumps you will find there.I know that it should be the same girls but the only person that I recognized was the same was the DJ. The girls were fine, but as I said, I couldn't see much of a difference with Plan be and Angeles. What was off was the service, very surly and greedy. Come to think of it, the waitresses at XOXO were suspiciously slow bringing change too and high pressure. The atmosphere in Angeles was way more enjoyable and the girls just a bit younger too. ABC was just fine considering the 7 k per night price tag, maybe I'll try the Fields Plaza Hotel next time because it is closer. Still disappointing when compared to some of the world class hotels in Manila that sometimes charge comparable prices.
Hell I don't know, it is just sometimes a ***** to get them out the door, they say they want to have me for a boyfriend exclusive to only them, want to cook, clean, and care, for me forever, OMG. Too much drama for me. Could be my age and the ages I am pulling, Also I treat them very well and respectful and they love that. It's a weakness of mine and I know it. They are in that desperate for a man age window, That can be good and bad.I've heard a lot of that with expats when I lived in Korea. Guys there became tired of the b!tchy attitudes of Korean women and took to the Phils for greener pastures. Several whom I worked with came back to Korea with Filipina wives. One guy I worked with would rave about how his 30-years younger bride would cook, clean, iron his clothes, etc. I don't expect all that but I know I'm in that magical age group that's attractive to Filipinas. I imagine many of those ladies will change drastically once they've been in the States a few months. I've also seen some expats who really let themselves go, ie, get very overweight and turn into slobs. They marry young Filipinas and live out their lives in the Phils because they know they'll likely lose the woman if they bring them to the States. Your thoughts?
Mr Enternational
02-28-19, 03:47
One guy I worked with would rave about how his 30-years younger bride would cook, clean, iron his clothes, etc.
They marry young Filipinas and live out their lives in the Phils because they know they'll likely lose the woman if they bring them to the States. Your thoughts?My thought is that here in Thailand I have a different chick to come over everyday to do those things. Not sure why I would need to marry one.
I've heard a lot of that with expats when I lived in Korea. Guys there became tired of the b!tchy attitudes of Korean women and took to the Phils for greener pastures. Several whom I worked with came back to Korea with Filipina wives. One guy I worked with would rave about how his 30-years younger bride would cook, clean, iron his clothes, etc. I don't expect all that but I know I'm in that magical age group that's attractive to Filipinas. I imagine many of those ladies will change drastically once they've been in the States a few months. I've also seen some expats who really let themselves go, ie, get very overweight and turn into slobs. They marry young Filipinas and live out their lives in the Phils because they know they'll likely lose the woman if they bring them to the States. Your thoughts?In USA socially it is unacceptable to have a young wife or date old enough to be a daughter or grand daughter. So even if you marry one and bring her here sooner or later she will get Americanized and adapt. She will come to know she has options and learn about alimony etc and not worry how she can live even with kids. For this reason many move to Philippines and live there in spite of being hounded by her relatives. Living is cheaper as well. Do not know if there is a alimony system in Philippines.
The initial load eg the 100 p that WC1 mentioned, can be used for local and international calls and SMS and data. Obviously international calls and SMS are far more expensive than local ones. On top of this, the telcos offer packages that bundle services together at much better rates eg you might get 3 days of data, 50 SMS and 100 local call minutes. I don't use calls or sms much in country as I find most girls give WhatsApp or Viber numbers so most of my contact is through those even if it's just a quick messgae to see if they are free that day.
As a guide to cost, for a 1 month stay I top up 500 p at the airport and then use 300 p of that load to buy a 1. 6 Gb data package and 100 free text valid for one month. I also get free minutes but can't remember how many but it's enough to last me the whole trip. If I've got hotel wifi and don't watch videos on mobile data, I'll leave with load still on the mobile phone at the end of the trip.
Note that some of the "Unlimited" packages actually throttle to insanely slow after about 1 Gb per day.
Enjoy. G.Thanks, good info. I assume that the kiosks / stores over there can explain things once I get there.
My thought is that here in Thailand I have a different chick to come over everyday to do those things. Not sure why I would need to marry one.Understood. Ultimately, I'm looking for a new Asian wife but would love to try out a torrent of Filipinas and / or southeast Asians until I find the right one.
My thought is that here in Thailand I have a different chick to come over everyday to do those things. Not sure why I would need to marry one.One thing that often gets forgotten in this discussion is that unlike the West, in Asia it's totally acceptable to have both the "good", socially acceptable wife at home and the toys as needs arise. Just don't get the two confused.
I totally get that some guys like churning through endless girls nightly and it makes for great reading for some guys that have never spent extended time doing it. However for many others, endless change outs gets old pretty quickly and some continuity (with the occasional side trip) is much preferred.
Mr Enternational
02-28-19, 05:10
I totally get that some guys like churning through endless girls nightly and it makes for great reading for some guys that have never spent extended time doing it. However for many others, endless change outs gets old pretty quickly and some continuity (with the occasional side trip) is much preferred.Still does not explain the need to get married. As if it is not possible to stay with the same chick without getting married to her. If you ask me, guys do it to themselves only to complain about the woman and how bad they got screwed over later. Only person that made you get married and lose all your shit was YOU.
Still does not explain the need to get married. As if it is not possible to stay with the same chick without getting married to her. If you ask me, guys do it to themselves only to complain about the woman and how bad they got screwed over later. Only person that made you get married and lose all your shit was YOU.Valid point and I'd agree from our / the guys side. However, I don't like anyone's chances of keeping a "good" girl unmarried long term after 27 or so. Defacto / Common Law relationships are far less common there and she will be under immense pressure to marry and would likely be looking outside for a ring if out guy wasn't providing one.
Cheers. G.
Thanks, good info. I assume that the kiosks / stores over there can explain things once I get there.Sure. They are very helpful.
Just tell her how long you are staying and how heavy a data user you are. Hand her your phone and she will do everything for you inc set up.
. For this reason many move to Philippines and live there in spite of being hounded by her relatives. Living is cheaper as well. Do not know if there is a alimony system in Philippines.These guys have made the most basic of mistake: marrying someone who is no way their peer. The rice farmer's daughter is socially unacceptable in the West and financially demanding and cannot hold a conversation back in her home.
I've often said that they are fun for a night or two but for something more permanent, its much beter to get out of the bar and offline and find someone decent with much more in common from suburbia.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
02-28-19, 06:17
Valid point and I'd agree from our / the guys side. However, I don't like anyone's chances of keeping a "good" girl unmarried long term after 27 or so. Defacto / Common Law relationships are far less common there and she will be under immense pressure to marry and would likely be looking outside for a ring if out guy wasn't providing one.Fuck her pressure. The dude's pressure is even greater if he buys in to the "Hey set me up where I can take all your shit or I am leaving you" deal. (LOL. Either I leave you now and tqke none of your shit, or I leave you later and take all of your shit?) Since I have never been afraid to lose a chick, I have no problem showing her where the door is.
I had an incident a few months ago in Colombia with my last girlfriend. She threatened to pack her things and go home. No arguement from me. I said go then. She did not go. I got up and took a shower and packed my things and told her to turn the key in when she left the hotel. I walked out of the door.
And in regards to the OPs statement of marrying a bisexual fucktoy: Maybe he missed the post I made a couple of months ago about a buddy that did exactly that. You can search my PI posts to see how good that turned out for him.
Engine Driver
02-28-19, 08:30
I'm in that magical age group that's attractive to Filipinas. And what age would that be? 18 - 95? LOL. I think you are kidding yourself. The only thing that matters is the size of your wallet. I'm no spring chicken, and nor is Fork Truck from what he has said, but we seem to be getting more chicks than we can handle. On my last trip I was so worn out from fucking pinay pussy that my last couple of days were pure. LOL.
Fuck her pressure. The dude's pressure is even greater if he buys in to the "Hey set me up where I can take all your shit or I am leaving you" deal. Just to clarify I was talking about pressure placed upon her by others to get married rather than by her.
I'd totally agree that her pressuring him is time to walk. The next tactic for her to "forget" to take the pill.
Cheers. G.
RpTraveller
02-28-19, 11:49
Guys,
I am planning a solo South East Asia trip in the first week of April and am about to book my tickets.
I can accommodate just two weeks of mongering with a bit of snorkelling / hiking and sightseeing on the side, which makes it difficult to decide to choose between Manila, Bangkok & Phnom Penh.
Need sound advice. Will Manila trump Bangkok in the department of quality, ease and cost? I have been to Bangkok already.
PedroMorales
02-28-19, 14:35
And not just for Christmas. If you want to find love in a brothel, then go ahead. If you want to make a fortune playing blackjack in las Vegas, go ahead. But don't proffer it as a life plan. If you want someone to cook and iron for you, hire a maid. Recognise your limits and what you bring to the table.
Women do not want to be with folk who make their grandfathers look young. Exceptions have daddy issues.
Marriage means commitment and that takes effort and time and starting form roughly similar bases.
This website must have millions of separate posts but only Ten Commandments.
1. Hookers are for sex, not for marriage.
2. Hookers are, by and large, emotionally damaged.
3. Hookers have other commitments and other cash flows.
4. Hookers are paid to leave.
5. Hookers cannot be "rescued".
6. Hookers are in it for the cash. They are mercenaries.
7. Hookers are for sex, not for serious conversations, intelligent though they may be.
8. Hookers are not your friend. They are not a poodle from the pound.
9. Hookers, like junk food, should be taken in moderation.
10. Hookers have their uses and their assigned roles, as do their customers. Leave it at that.
Sure. They are very helpful.
Just tell her how long you are staying and how heavy a data user you are. Hand her your phone and she will do everything for you inc set up.I've found the Smart and Globe Kiosks at the Airport to be MUCH more expensive then getting load at a 7-11. Wait until you are in town if you can. If you have T-Mobile, you can get free data although you will probably want a different SIM card to keep your main number discreet.
Albert9989
02-28-19, 16:04
I've found the Smart and Globe Kiosks at the Airport to be MUCH more expensive then getting load at a 7-11. Wait until you are in town if you can. If you have T-Mobile, you can get free data although you will probably want a different SIM card to keep your main number discreet.Waiting to be in town means that you cannot call a Grab at airport. Or take a normal taxi may be? And then find a 7-11.
....and lose all your shit was YOU.* HALF of your shit.
Transporter
02-28-19, 18:29
Guys,
I am planning a solo South East Asia trip in the first week of April and am about to book my tickets.
I can accommodate just two weeks of mongering with a bit of snorkelling / hiking and sightseeing on the side, which makes it difficult to decide to choose between Manila, Bangkok & Phnom Penh.
Need sound advice. Will Manila trump Bangkok in the department of quality, ease and cost? I have been to Bangkok already.Based on your criteria, I can only say that manila is cheaper than bkk. Ease will depend upon where you plan to go in both places, and your familiarity of all the options out there. Quality, I assume you are referring to the girls; and in all my years all I can say is that I still cannot make a comprehensive rating comparison between PI and BKK girls. Both have there advantages and disadvantages, so for me there is no way to compare them against each other, it just depends on what I am wanting at that time. Sort of like android and ios, I like um both. Both have their strong and weak points, so if you can make a decision great (yeah I use both). Bkk and PP is easier to make a comparison between the girls, but impossible to do a BKK to PI girl.
Diving for sure PI, hiking and sightseeing with only 2 weeks. I guess I would need a breakdown of your time assessment for each, but if mongering is your priority, then that leaves very little time for those.
I've found the Smart and Globe Kiosks at the Airport to be MUCH more expensive then getting load at a 7-11. Wait until you are in town if you can. If you have T-Mobile, you can get free data although you will probably want a different SIM card to keep your main number discreet.Yes, they can cost a few pesos more.
Then again the kiosks offer a package deal with the SIM card which is cheaper than else where.
But a peso saved is a peso earned.
WestCoast1
02-28-19, 18:42
I've found the Smart and Globe Kiosks at the Airport to be MUCH more expensive then getting load at a 7-11. Wait until you are in town if you can. If you have T-Mobile, you can get free data although you will probably want a different SIM card to keep your main number discreet.I did not understand the price difference. If you purchase a p300 load at the airport for p300, your phone will load +300. If you make the same purchase at a 7-11 in town, your phone will load +300. The cost of the SIM card itself is the same in each location, and at the airport they are happy to install it for you in your current phone. What is the greater cost at the airport?
T-Mobile. You get free and unlimited data / Internet usage, at 2 g speed. Its so slow that many websites will time out. Try this trick: In Manila, in your gringo phone, insert your Smart (or Globe) SIM card, and watch the bars. Probably you will see the 4 G / LTE symbol and several bars. Run a speed test, don't be surprised if its about (speeds can vary wildly) 40 mbps download and 20 mbps upload. That's not unusual. That's plenty of fast enough to web browse, use your Google Maps to navigate, WeChat, and stream movies to your laptop (hotspot) all at the same time. Next, replace your Smart SIM with your T-Mobile SIM, and watch your speed indicator say G, or even disappear (meaning 2 G). Run another speed test and notice this typical speed: 1-2 mbps download, and well under 1 mbps upload. These speeds are good for: timeouts.
Certainly that is a t-Mobile slowdown, as the same local network runs much faster on a Smart / Globe card. A guy at a T-Mobile store told me that is T-Mobile's attempt to get you to upgrade your out-of-country and hotspot to their faster speeds -- for a monthly fee.
Guys,
I am planning a solo South East Asia trip in the first week of April and am about to book my tickets.
I can accommodate just two weeks of mongering with a bit of snorkelling / hiking and sightseeing on the side, which makes it difficult to decide to choose between Manila, Bangkok & Phnom Penh.
Need sound advice. Will Manila trump Bangkok in the department of quality, ease and cost? I have been to Bangkok already.Write a report on BKK so we know your baseline for comparison.
I did not understand the price difference. If you purchase a p300 load at the airport for p300, your phone will load +300. If you make the same purchase at a 7-11 in town, your phone will load +300. The cost of the SIM card itself is the same in each location, and at the airport they are happy to install it for you in your current phone. What is the greater cost at the airport?
T-Mobile. You get free and unlimited data / Internet usage, at 2 g speed. Its so slow that many websites will time out. Try this trick: In Manila, in your gringo phone, insert your Smart (or Globe) SIM card, and watch the bars. Probably you will see the 4 G / LTE symbol and several bars. Run a speed test, don't be surprised if its about (speeds can vary wildly) 40 mbps download and 20 mbps upload. That's not unusual. That's plenty of fast enough to web browse, use your Google Maps to navigate, WeChat, and stream movies to your laptop (hotspot) all at the same time. Next, replace your Smart SIM with your T-Mobile SIM, and watch your speed indicator say G, or even disappear (meaning 2 G). Run another speed test and notice this typical speed: 1-2 mbps download, and well under 1 mbps upload. These speeds are good for: timeouts.
Certainly that is a t-Mobile slowdown, as the same local network runs much faster on a Smart / Globe card. A guy at a T-Mobile store told me that is T-Mobile's attempt to get you to upgrade your out-of-country and hotspot to their faster speeds -- for a monthly fee.I'd agree. I've always paid 500 p for a 500 p top up regardless of where I get it. Plans and promos are bought within the phone on *149# or a kiosk. Again at a fixed price.
As for swapping SIMs, Roaming settings, Speed restrictions etc, just buy a second unlocked travel phone. Its so much easier. Arrive in any country and put a local SIM in and its works. Have full download speeds. If your house burns down, your home phone will still ring when someone calls you. And a biggie for most of us: you have separation and security of your home and fun contacts. Many guys like to keep home info from party girls, messages to hookers from our civilian lives, or both.
That's a lot of convenience for a hundred dollars on Ebay.
Thanks, good info. I assume that the kiosks / stores over there can explain things once I get there.What's to explain? Just like fuxking. Pay for it and Insert the SIM card and go at it.
Any other questions just google: SIM cards for dummies.
Only an idiot would lose half of their shit or anything to speak of.
In some cases half of nothing is?Falling in love with a blow job; putting all your major possessions in a hookers name; piling money into a business that you can't keep. We're not exactly talking about Mensa candidates. 🤔.
Falling in love with a blow job; putting all your major possessions in a hookers name; piling money into a business that you can't keep. We're not exactly talking about Mensa candidates. 🤔.Personally I think Mensa people would be dupe easier. Lack of common sense. The graphs with upward progress and pie charts in the business plan would certainly sell them.
Dang, I have done all 3! Mensa me.
WestCoast1
02-28-19, 21:29
Guys,
I am planning a solo South East Asia trip in the first week of April and am about to book my tickets.
I can accommodate just two weeks of mongering with a bit of snorkelling / hiking and sightseeing on the side, which makes it difficult to decide to choose between Manila, Bangkok & Phnom Penh.
Need sound advice. Will Manila trump Bangkok in the department of quality, ease and cost? I have been to Bangkok already.Must be kidding. You have been on this board for months now, been to BKK, and have not one quality informative post about your experiences. In fact, just two reports with only questions. I am with DG on this, start writing some quality descriptive Field Reports about your BKK experiences. What you thought of the hotels where you stayed, the restaurants where you ate, where you pulled girls from, prices if you will, the good / bad / ugly.
Guys,
I am planning a solo South East Asia trip in the first week of April and am about to book my tickets.
I can accommodate just two weeks of mongering with a bit of snorkelling / hiking and sightseeing on the side, which makes it difficult to decide to choose between Manila, Bangkok & Phnom Penh.
Need sound advice. Will Manila trump Bangkok in the department of quality, ease and cost? Quality, no, but maybe better GFE. Ease, no. Cost, probably but PNH is ever lower. I have been to Bangkok already.No snorkeling in any of those cities. South of MNL in Sabang has snorkeling or go west to Subic which is west of Angeles City. If you want hiking / sightseeing BKK and PNH are better than MNL but Siem Reap is better than all the above. Mongering is good in all three and Siem Reap but probably best (quality / ease / cost) in Angeles City and Pattaya but others may disagree. If it were me I'd go to Siem Reap for hiking and massages five days; and the rest of the time snorkel mongering between MNL / Sabang or MNL / Angeles / Subic. Read all of those threads then decide. Oh and if you find a particularly beautiful slim and stacked LBFM you must give me her contact info.
And what age would that be? 18 - 95? LOL. I think you are kidding yourself. The only thing that matters is the size of your wallet. I'm no spring chicken, and nor is Fork Truck from what he has said, but we seem to be getting more chicks than we can handle. On my last trip I was so worn out from fucking pinay pussy that my last couple of days were pure. LOL.You may be right on that 18-95 range but, from what I've been gathering from chatting up these women, a middle-aged guy is the best pick. Yes, financially stable, still able to fuck and not just using her as a quick dump and run like a lot of younger guys would.
I'd agree. I've always paid 500 p for a 500 p top up regardless of where I get it. Plans and promos are bought within the phone on *149# or a kiosk. Again at a fixed price.
As for swapping SIMs, Roaming settings, Speed restrictions etc, just buy a second unlocked travel phone. Its so much easier. Arrive in any country and put a local SIM in and its works. Have full download speeds. If your house burns down, your home phone will still ring when someone calls you. And a biggie for most of us: you have separation and security of your home and fun contacts. Many guys like to keep home info from party girls, messages to hookers from our civilian lives, or both.
That's a lot of convenience for a hundred dollars on Ebay.What type of phone / cost are you suggesting for the second phone?
Falling in love with a blow job; putting all your major possessions in a hookers name; piling money into a business that you can't keep. We're not exactly talking about Mensa candidates. 🤔.Sadly, seen that happen countless times in Korea. Of course it happens everywhere else too, just kinda shocking how many lonely, gullible guys there are.
Sadly, seen that happen countless times in Korea. Of course it happens everywhere else too, just kinda shocking how many lonely, gullible guys there are.I realize its dumbed down TV but have a look at "90 day Fiance" on You Tube. How desperate can guys be to get laid?
BrainDrain
03-01-19, 00:07
I did not understand the price difference. If you purchase a p300 load at the airport for p300, your phone will load +300. If you make the same purchase at a 7-11 in town, your phone will load +300. The cost of the SIM card itself is the same in each location, and at the airport they are happy to install it for you in your current phone. What is the greater cost at the airport?At the airport they want to sign up visitor arrivals to a P300 promo. The airport kiosks usually try to say they only have P300 load cards (and we all know they have P100 load cards in the draw). So minimum purchase for a newbie at airport is going to be P300. Load P300, then use the P300 in a call, data, sms load. Same load could be used for a P90 GOTSCOMBO and have P210 remaining for the next load.
I try to load the minimum required for the promo. I find that they have ways for leaking away any excess credit. If my plans expires and I don't react to the SMS (in a meeting or asleep at night) then the iPhone data pings get charged at full rate and bye-bye excess credit.
As a regular visitor I purchase a P100 load card when I leave the country. I then use that card wen I next arrive in country.
Before arrival I've also used Ding to put load via credit card. Allows me to load my phone, GF and other phones in the one (work claimable) transaction.
Small beer though.
What type of phone / cost are you suggesting for the second phone?Just any run of the mill, low to mid level phone that's not locked to a carrier. Pro tips: the very cheapest don't have enough memory to load all the Dating and Social Apps you might want; if you are paranoid about home security, get a operating system (Apple, Android etc) that your significant other doesn't have, that way there is no chance of accidental replications across all your devices; fast charging is super handy on a travel phone.
I paid US $ 150 on Ebay and its more than I need.
Just any run of the mill, low to mid level phone that's not locked to a carrier. Pro tips: the very cheapest don't have enough memory to load all the Dating and Social Apps you might want; if you are paranoid about home security, get a operating system (Apple, Android etc) that your significant other doesn't have, that way there is no chance of accidental replications across all your devices; fast charging is super handy on a travel phone.
I paid US $ 150 on Ebay and its more than I need.What kind of phone did you get for $150?
What kind of phone did you get for $150?Samsung Android. I don't know the model. Probably superseded by now
I applauded your pre work to be prepared but it's really not that hard or anything to sweat the details over. Just buy any phone on ebay for $100/150, turn up to PI, hand said phone and 500 p to the girl at Globe or Smart and say "make it work, I need a reasonable amount of data". You may get it right. You may fuck it up. Worst case is you will be up for another $10 for a top up. Much better to spend your time on chasing and contacting girlies than researching phone models and technical specifications.
Enjoy your trip and let us know how it goes. G.
I realize its dumbed down TV but have a look at "90 day Fiance" on You Tube. How desperate can guys be to get laid?Like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1siMGgStQ.
He didn't learn anything from his first marriage? LOL.
WestCoast1
03-01-19, 01:06
What type of phone / cost are you suggesting for the second phone?I spent p15 k (almost $300 USD with accessories, ie case, SD card, etc) on an asian Samsung. It was 17 k for the base model in Malate Robinson's Place mall at the Samsung store on 3rd floor. A few doors down from there are several phone places, and one of them was running a promo. The phone is the same size, look, and feel of my US Samsung (considerably more expensive). The screen display is nice, and it takes a good pic. However the differences in quality and performance between the two phones are obvious. While the screens are the same size, the US phone display is better. Pics, vids taken on the phone, and movies streamed look good on the asian phone, but in comparison with the phones side by side, the US phone is just much crisper, more color, beautiful. The US phone focuses in pic mode faster and better. A positive extra for the asian A6 is that it has a front flash for the cam (real flash, not a screen-lightup), makes it great for taking selfies in darker situations. Such asian (or any) unlocked phones can be used in any country, just insert the new SIM in each new country.
Have previously purchased other cheaper asian unlocked models, such as the Cherry Mobile trash (good for about 1 year until they fall apart) in the $100-$150 range. Large screens, crappy processors and limited memory, cheap components. Caution about CM phones: There is only one repair facility in all of Phils (or at least that was the case previously), in the Manila Sampoloc area. If you buy a CM phone, you have only 30 days to bring it back to the original place of purchase with receipt for replacement (no repair probably). After that you must send it to Sampoloc for any warranty work (remainder of 1 year). Someone correct me if I am wrong. Alternative is to take it to any phone repair shop and pay to have it fixed (probably voiding the warranty that you can't use anyway).
Having 2 phones seems a bit excessive. But when I'm in-country, I use the laptop to keep in touch with fam / friends with email, my US phone I check every 1-3 days for txt msgs (I don't email or FB on my phone), and use the asian phone for all communications within the country. The asian phone SD card and memory are sanitized the night before departure, and then the phone is factory re-set for use on the next trip.
NL, I will PM you.
What kind of phone did you get for $150?1. Go on Amazon.com or eBay.
2. Get a GSM unlocked cell phone.
Blu or Moto brands work great in Philippines.
3. Land at PH airport and go to Smart kiosks and buy SIM card with load.
3 simple steps. Anything else will cause needless undue dizzy analysis paralysis.
Blanquiceleste
03-01-19, 01:49
Call me post police, but there seems to be a large number of posts here related to phones and SIM cards and data plans that would be more suited to the general info thread.
On a separate note I wonder how mongering was done before the advent of mobile phone technology. Or anything else for that matter.
Call me post police, but there seems to be a large number of posts here related to phones and SIM cards and data plans that would be more suited to the general info thread.
On a separate note I wonder how mongering was done before the advent of mobile phone technology. Or anything else for that matter.That would be my fault as of late. Not used to the nuances of the Phils threads. Every country / state has theirs as do individual cities. Blame it on me for jacking this one up.
1. Go on Amazon.com or eBay.
2. Get a GSM unlocked cell phone.
Blu or Moto brands work great in Philippines.
3. Land at PH airport and go to Smart kiosks and buy SIM card with load.
3 simple steps. Anything else will cause needless undue dizzy analysis paralysis.Got it, thanks. Reason I've asked all of this shit about phones is I had a similar issue in China several years ago and you wouldn't believe the headaches it caused, which never got resolved. Going to do some research on those brands and thanks for the heads up.
Transporter
03-01-19, 03:38
Got it, thanks. Reason I've asked all of this shit about phones is I had a similar issue in China several years ago and you wouldn't believe the headaches it caused, which never got resolved. Going to do some research on those brands and thanks for the heads up.Oppo and Vivo is most popular with the girls there, and you can get them anywhere.
Of course for name brand cp it is cheaper to buy in your own country.
1. Go on Amazon.com or eBay.
2. Get a GSM unlocked cell phone.
Blu or Moto brands work great in Philippines.
3. Land at PH airport and go to Smart kiosks and buy SIM card with load.
3 simple steps. Anything else will cause needless undue dizzy analysis paralysis.Agreed, I visited a local independent cell phone repair / sales shop in the US before trip. I told the guy I was going to Philippines and wanted to buy a cell P that would work there. He said Okay, I have many customers come in for same thing and I know what you need. For $140.00 I bought an LG phone with the correct specs. Downloaded the apps I wanted on it at home before trip and prayed the phone guy didn't screw me, stopped at Smart counter in airport, free sim card and loaded pesos worth of load. Easy because the attendant took my phone and did everything for me. Caution; You do have to watch your load bank, my phone abruptly quit working once in the middle of texting and I saw I had 65 PHP load left, WTF, so taxi ride to mall found Smart counter and attendant took one look and said sorry sir you only have .65 PHP left (less than one) that is why phone no worky. Bought more load and back in business.
I'm sorry, I mis-spoke. It wasn't load I bought, it was a package. I want to say 500 PHP for a week unlimited data. I should have just bought load, then signed up for a plan through my phone. I like the idea of buying a load card before I leave.
Call me post police, but there seems to be a large number of posts here related to phones and SIM cards and data plans that would be more suited to the general info thread.
On a separate note I wonder how mongering was done before the advent of mobile phone technology. Or anything else for that matter.First off, I cannot agree more that post about the efficacy of marrying pinays or getting your phone to work are not what the location specific forums are for. I do not want my fellow mongers / cheongsters to stop posting here but it would be good to take some of these to the Philippines General Info forum and focus more on the where and how's of Manila.
Back to the point, I see a lot about Makati and EDSA, but what about other areas of greater Manila. Are there recommendable bars in other parts of the city where an ex-pat can go to find a quickie with a working girl? How about a gentleman's club where harmless visual stimulation can be found?
Transporter
03-01-19, 20:35
I'm sorry, I mis-spoke. It wasn't load I bought, it was a package. I want to say 500 PHP for a week unlimited data. I should have just bought load, then signed up for a plan through my phone. I like the idea of buying a load card before I leave.This was so long ago, that I don't know if it is still relevant today. But I remember for some reason I wanted to or had to buy a sim card and get load as I exited the airport (can't remember, but probably because I wanted to update a girl or girls I was meeting so that they could get on there way and we could meet faster as opposed to getting to the hotel and then buying my sim and texting the girl (s). Could save me a few hours). I purchased the sim and the remainder of 1000 pesos for load, figuring that it should last me a good part of a week and I could always add load later. Had them install it and add the load, he showed me the balance of 900 something load and I paid him and left. After a couple of days I ran out of load? I know I was texting a lot of girls, but still that was a bit fast. Did some research and found out that when texting different networks, it cost more but at that time it still wouldn't have burned up my load. Also found out that there are sim cards that people sell that steal load. Possible. Came to the conclusion that they sold me load that had a short life (cheaper for them to buy) so my load expired before I used them.
WestCoast1
03-01-19, 21:08
Back to the point, I see a lot about Makati and EDSA, but what about other areas of greater Manila. Are there recommendable bars in other parts of the city where an ex-pat can go to find a quickie with a working girl? How about a gentleman's club where harmless visual stimulation can be found?Burgos St Makati, Horizon's Gentleman's club. Good pole dancers from various countries, more US-style, one girl at a time (not the usual plethora of bored shuffling), good erotic pole dancing (girls are not for takeout).
LA Cafe in Malate, lots of eye candy later at night, all girls for takeout.
Burgos St Makati, Horizon's Gentleman's club. Good pole dancers from various countries, more US-style, one girl at a time (not the usual plethora of bored shuffling), good erotic pole dancing (girls are not for takeout).
LA Cafe in Malate, lots of eye candy later at night, all girls for takeout.Did somebody mention pole dancers. 🤩.
Where are the places to go to see active, attractive and skilled pole dancers in Manila? I'm talking entertainers not the zoned out chicks shuffling around a pole we normally see. Naked is also good. 😎.
I'll need to be careful. I have an absolute weakness for dancers. I was totally kunt struck by a Sabang dancer for several years. She could spin around, up and down a chrome pole like it was magic. Nightly workouts gave her a super toned body which she put to great use back in the room or anywhere I liked on the walk home. So much fun I would bar fine her weeks at a time. Saved me a fortune when she no longer needed the bar and went freelance. Fuck I miss those days.
WestCoast1
03-02-19, 10:58
Did somebody mention pole dancers.
Where are the places to go to see active, attractive and skilled pole dancers in Manila? I'm talking entertainers not the zoned out chicks shuffling around a pole we normally see. Naked is also good. Horizon's on Burgos. Girls are not for takeout like other gogo bars. One dancer at a time, all do good work. Songs and choreography seem to showcase the girl's dancing and pole talents. No bored stage-dance shuffling. Multi-national lineup of dancers, including Russian girls. Its a few doors down from Ringside, across the street from Wowowow bar. Unfortunately not naked.
Chocha Monger
03-02-19, 16:10
And not just for Christmas. If you want to find love in a brothel, then go ahead. If you want to make a fortune playing blackjack in las Vegas, go ahead. But don't proffer it as a life plan. If you want someone to cook and iron for you, hire a maid. Recognise your limits and what you bring to the table.
Women do not want to be with folk who make their grandfathers look young. Exceptions have daddy issues.
Marriage means commitment and that takes effort and time and starting form roughly similar bases.
This website must have millions of separate posts but only Ten Commandments.
1. Hookers are for sex, not for marriage.
2. Hookers are, by and large, emotionally damaged..Unfortunately, fellas who marry hookers do so dreaming of a life of unlimited long-time. They are drawn to delusions of waking each morning to a slobby blowjob until they blow her brains, and skilled prostitute sex bareback cum-in-pussy with unlimited lifetime pops. When they wake up, the reality of marriage to a Pinay hooker is very different to the dream. LOL!
Redgrouper
03-03-19, 10:43
Hi there,
Does anyone have any information on the S&M scene in Manila, specifically professional Dommes? I have found one website of a lady calling herself Domina Fire and would be interested to know if anyone has any experiences with her or any other pro Domme in Manila. Many thanks.
Gents:
Appreciate the Horizon Recommendation. Lots of youtube info for them. Are there some of those less quality strip clubs with private rooms where more services could be negitiated? I have heard there are bars in the less popular areas where you can get a BJ under the table or in a back room. We cannot publicize such places as the police likely follow this but I would appreciate a PM with any recommendations.
Alternatively, AC is great since I like sitting at Kokomos and watching independents walk by. Any good food courts or street bars where that can be done in greater Manila? What about closer to the airport like other cities? I guess traffic is too bad to have places to cruise SW loops.
Wicked Roger
03-03-19, 18:51
Hi there,
Does anyone have any information on the S&M scene in Manila, specifically professional Dommes? I have found one website of a lady calling herself Domina Fire and would be interested to know if anyone has any experiences with her or any other pro Domme in Manila. Many thanks.There is some but best PM me on this as there are numbers not web site links.
You did ask he same on Poland 10 years ago but never shared after so is there in Warsaw as I know where and how etc so be interested to know your contributions ion that area as I am there again soon.
Best PM me as can't give out names and number on the threads.
Unfortunately, fellas who marry hookers do so dreaming of a life of unlimited long-time. They are drawn to delusions of waking each morning to a slobby blowjob until they blow her brains, and skilled prostitute sex bareback cum-in-pussy with unlimited lifetime pops. When they wake up, the reality of marriage to a Pinay hooker is very different to the dream. LOL!You and Pedro seem to have it all figured out. Is this from personal experience? Or just book learning or reading lifetime novels?
All conjecture again! Can we get actual and factual experience reports?
P.S. I am beginning to think CM and PM are all the same.
Can we get actual and factual experience reports? I'm a bit hazy on what you want factual reports on.
Guys that married hookers only to see their life fall apart? There are allready many 1st and 2nd hand reports on the forum discussing just that. I've got no reason to doubt the honesty of any of them.
Guys that married Asian civilians, had a little fun on the side and lived happily ever after? I personally know several guys here and outside the forum that have done exactly that. I'm not going to name names but just as my post to PinayPounder showed the well work path to failure there are also some common traits to the relationships that last decades and don't cost him a fortune:
Boy meets girl in suburbia; not a bar or immediate online hook up.
Boy and girl are roughly similar age groups, education level and experience / worldliness.
Boy does not select girl merely because of her looks or BJ skills; they actually have things in common and can hold a conversation.
Boy does not do stupid shit just because he can; no fucking the relatives, friends etc.
Fun and domestic bliss are kept totally separate. Boy has fun but ensures he does not do anything to embarrass the girl or her family to her friends or the outside world.
I'm not saying there are not many, many money hungry, thieving, mercenary girls out there for whom a relationship should be avoided at all costs. However, to suggest that all Asian girls fit this description and a solid long term relationship is impossible is just plain wrong.
* before anyone jumps down my thought, I didn't say that marriage or LTRs are for everyone. That's a totally different discussion.
Cheers. G
Mr Enternational
03-04-19, 03:38
All conjecture again! Can we get actual and factual experience reports? I did that back in January. Now can we get actual and factual reports on someone living happily ever after with a hooker?
Here is another case. A close buddy of mine who is a pretty streetwise guy met this chick at the hooker disco his first trip to Brazil. This was when and where I met him as well. He took Portuguese classes at the University of California at Berkely before even going and spoke the language damn good. He is the reason for me stepping up my game with the language. After a few more trips this chick ends up knocked up.
When the baby comes out it is obvious to everyone else that it is not his. He is a dark skinned American guy and this baby is definitely the result of a Brazilian guy. He goes to the embassy to get a passport for "his" son. He also gets a fiance visa for the chick to visit him in the States. When she visits him she gets knocked up again. This baby is obviously his. Against everyone's advice he marries the chick and moves her to the States.
One day he is gone on a trip for work and some guy writes on her facebook thanks for last night, etc. He got home and asked if it was true and she admitted it. They broke up. But whatever that time you have to be married until the person gets their final paperwork has not elapsed. So he is still on the hook for taking care of her and the kids. The time is up by now because this was years ago. I don't know if he still has to pay her, but he still has to pay for the kids.
You think he would have learned his lesson, but I guess not. We were in Colombia one day and I let him use my phone. A couple of months later I noticed that he had left facebook opened on his account. Some message is on there about him sending money to hookers in Colombia. This guy, I tell you!
*Forgot to mention I was searching for something on the internet with some coworkers one day and came across a porn video that the Brazilian chick had done back when those guy would go shoot all their movies down there. I sent it to him and he said he already knew about it.
I have another buddy that married and imported a Brazilian hooker and she ended up fucking a professional baseball player. She had originally met the baseball player in Brazil before, but my buddy did not know that. So he imports pussy for another guy to have. Divorced as well.
Why marry a hooker when there are so many chicks out there that are not hookers to choose from? This I will never understand. It is like going to a car lot and choosing the most raggedy beat up used rental car that you know you will have to pour money into and paying full price for it. If you are out to make a fresh start, then choose a fresh person.
So a couple of years ago a buddy of mine made some rant videos. He lived in the Dominican Republic for like 7 years then moved to Angeles. The videos were about never seriously date a Dominican. Only fuck them because they are all hookers. The next week he turns around and marries a chick that was working at a bar opposite Kokomos. This left everyone confused after seeing the videos. Well the shit finally fell apart. In a facebook group he posted pictures of how she had gone upside his head with an ugly stick.
Josh Dales
03-04-19, 23:26
Why marry a hooker when there are so many chicks out there that are not hookers to choose from? This I will never understand. It is like going to a car lot and choosing the most raggedy beat up used rental car that you know you will have to pour money into and paying full price for it. If you are out to make a fresh start, then choose a fresh person.True words.
So many 'white knights' wants to live out the Richard Gere vs Julia Robers Pretty Woman fantasy.
It is a fantasy. But you (new) guys don't have to be the one picking up the tab, when everybody and their old granddad have had their fun with 'your' (yeah, right.) sweatheart.
Respect the woman, and have fun with the P4P girls, but meanwhile also date the girl in the shop, restaurant, ticket seller or whatever she might be doing for a living.
Date anyone that gets up in the morning and puts in +8 hours of work. They will be a better match.
And don't worry, there will be endless lines of white knights standing ready to save 'your' sweatheart.
She will be okay.
And also, you do not need to marry. Tell her that you will take good care of her (and do that) - all should be fine.
Beware of (any) woman that press wedding early on in a realationship. Its a sign of warning.
CenTexCrash
03-06-19, 19:45
Had the itch to turn an overnight layover into a night in Manila.
On paper Tokyo flight landed at 12 am, morning after would resume 10 am to Singapore.
Legit opportunity to get 4-6 hours of the night. I think.
How it played out:
Got to Tokyo Narita, was promptly informed the JetStar flight was delayed 2 hours. *Sigh* can still salvage some of the night I think. Booked a $22 hotel as a safety measure. Land at 2 almost 3 am. MNL customs is a breeze. Exchanged leftover yen and ringgit for pisos.
Had my heart set on LA Café. Instead of UBER there's GRAB, ordered a ride to hotel to freshen up / drop luggage. Talked about something something in Manila, driver is an expat from San Diego CA, said he'd leave the ride open if I wanted to drop off my luggage hop back in car he take me to Burgos Street and even play wingman. I declined. Felt like I might be vulnerable to some kind of catch with that little sleep.
Got into LA Café waaaaaaay later than I planned, almost 4 am with a 10 am flight looming.
Order a separate ride from hotel to LA Café, ordered a token Sprite not to make a scene, couple next to me talked about do's don't's of mongering and told me unwind and walk around check out extra room bar upstairs. Read on ISG and other online sources LA Cafe's 2nd floor is VIP cover charge supposedly. Took a chance. Saw a cashier post but no cashier and the 10 minutes I was up there no one haggled me for cover charge. Oh well.
A cute girl in group of girls smiled when I looked in her direction, walked over to her, we talked. She said room next door + 5000 pisos for 3 hours. I wasn't thinking I just said Let's do it.
Problem I felt like worrying about later: I only brought 3000 pisos. Had more except Grab fees and hotel took a cash deposit. Should've said something up front, my bad.
We go in, shower up, we cuddle DFK, starts with a BBBJ but is firm on condom required for penetration. Wants doggy, I flip her over and go full DATY, she says it's the most intense oral she's received in forever. Do multiple positions for the first session. Snuggle. Get pissed off because my travel baggy back at the (sleep) hotel has 10-12 condoms and 0 on my person so I had to buy some from the room service FML.
Start second round. Ask her what's the craziest thing she's done, she giggles didn't really answer the question. Start with my favorite her head upside down at edge of bed, rubbing her body while her BBBJ skills go to town. More positions later I finished round 2.
Felt tired, looked at time might have been 4:30 am by this point. I couldn't do this. I told her I was pressed for time (Thanks JetStar) confessed I don't have 5000 pisos on me, so instead of 5000 p for 3 hours here's 3000 p for 45 m, you can go back in the café and track down a different dud to do the deed. Initially she was disappointed not aggressive but did agree to settle at 3000. THEN she typed in her phone # into my WhatsApp and said if I'm ever in Manila again, she'll bring her friend for a full FFM trio. Sent her on her way.
Napped at hotel. Showered up, made it to NAIA for my 10 am flight to Singapore. No delays this time from JetStar. Girl texts me to make sure I made my flight, kiss emoji. Flight takes off. BUT THEN-.
8 minutes in the sky Pilot finds one engine's oil pressure not reading well, makes emergency return to MNL. We're asked to sit in the gate room for 45-60 minutes while crews whack at the engine while we watch. JetStar was running light on stall tactics. The 45 minute wait lasted 6 hours, 2 hours after we should have touched down in Singapore, JetStar reps announce to 180 smiling faces the plane is unfit to fly and all other JetStar direct and connecting routes to SIN are booked up.
They offered a 5 star room in Manila. I could have invited that girl.
I really had to be in Singapore. I grabbed my luggage. I got a ride to another zip code to the terminal that caters to name brand carriers and shelled out $205 USD to Singapore Airlines and hopped on a Boeing 777 that wasn't even half full. (Why two airlines can't form a truce in this instance idk) Caught the second to last subway leaving Singapore Changi for the night. Got to my hotel 5 minutes before the desk staff locked up for the night.
Never heard a peep from JetStar about a refund.
Every other week, girl and I on WhatsApp text random sweet nothings. Let her know about my next stopover this April from Seoul to Sydney. Already locked up flight Cebu Pacific Monday night MNL-SYD, and eyeballing at flight Saturday afternoon Seoul ICN-CRK. I didn't tell her about the CRK part.
If you've made it this far: In LA Café is 5000 p the going rate or did she throw a high number only a noob would jump on? Chances of negotiating powers? And is that normal for them to exchange WhatsApp info afterwards?
Transporter
03-06-19, 20:12
Had the itch to turn an overnight layover into a night in Manila.
If you've made it this far: In LA Caf is 5000 p the going rate or did she throw a high number only a noob would jump on? Chances of negotiating powers? And is that normal for them to exchange WhatsApp info afterwards?Upstairs 5 K is about right, but there are factors involved in negotiations; supply and demand, how much competition is there upstairs; what time is it, as usually they will turn one trix and they are done, so if it is very late and they have not secured a customer for the outing, you may have the leverage; is she independant, there are mommies up there that take a cut; do you look like easy money, the girls will target the three threes, so if you look korean, japanese, or chinese you do have some leveraging power; was she there alone, or did she travel there with a bunch of other girls, packless girls are more liberal with the prices; where she lived, the farther away she traveled to work the night, the more desperate she will be to get a customer before returning home as the higher her investment was to make the trip. There are probably a lot more things, but since you did not do the initial interview, it would seem worthless. Social media exchange is absolutely normal, Whatsapp tho is not as popular as viber or fb mess, but I guess things are changing.
MadisonGuy
03-07-19, 02:51
I'm sure this has probably been brought up before, but I really like daytime action massage parlor type. I love Manila bay cafe but sometimes only have an hour or two to get away. What are the top 3 rub and tug places? Looking for better looking girls as the most important, price doesn't matter as long as they're hot or many to pick from.
VictorHugo99
03-07-19, 11:31
Hi MG,
Try Fusiondise Spa. Just next to NAIA.
Good massage and extra services.
Beautiful masseuse.
Manila Airport Hotel, NAIA Terminal 1 Complex, Parañaque.
Have fun, Vic.
I'm sure this has probably been brought up before, but I really like daytime action massage parlor type. I love Manila bay cafe but sometimes only have an hour or two to get away. What are the top 3 rub and tug places? Looking for better looking girls as the most important, price doesn't matter as long as they're hot or many to pick from.
If you've made it this far: In LA Caf is 5000 p the going rate or did she throw a high number only a noob would jump on? Chances of negotiating powers? And is that normal for them to exchange WhatsApp info afterwards?I am sweating by only reading your story! It seems like a lot of stress, but you probably had good reasons to get to Singapore. I go to LA Cafe frequently and normally will pay 1500-2000 peso. Never more. Sometimes I get sexy nice girls, some other times I have no luck. But I make it very clear what I want to pay. Normally no problem there. The young girls upstairs looking at the "Japanese / Korean" section inside does not interest me. They will ask for 5 K I am sure. LA Cafe is a hit and miss. But sometimes you can find a diamond in the ruff.
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If you've made it this far: In LA Caf is 5000 p the going rate or did she throw a high number only a noob would jump on? Chances of negotiating powers? And is that normal for them to exchange WhatsApp info afterwards?Thanks for posting a detailed report. Murphy's first law states: "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong".
I feel your pain. Next time, try and fly the established Airlines (ANA, Cathay, Singapore or even SilkAir).
It has been a few years since I visited LA Cafe. My experience is that price is negotiable and you should negotiate.
Time of visit does matter. Since you reached at 4 am, you do have an advantage.
It is not "normal" to exchange WhatsApp info. It appears:
(a) This girl had a decent experience with you. She felt you were being honest (about the money).
(b) She feels you are a good prospect and wants to hook up when you visit again.
~BKKguru.
Mr Enternational
03-07-19, 14:56
It is not "normal" to exchange WhatsApp info.How is it not normal to exchange info? Many times I go to bars and clubs only to get chicks' info to build up my list, then call them when I want them to come. And after a session of a chick that I have taken on the spot, I have exchanged info more often than not I am sure.
How is it not normal to exchange info? Many times I go to bars and clubs only to get chicks' info to build up my list, then call them when I want them to come. And after a session of a chick that I have taken on the spot, I have exchanged info more often than not I am sure.
He asked the following question: "And is that normal for them to exchange WhatsApp info afterwards?"
I cannot speak for you, but most of us do not exchange numbers with EVERY girl we session with.
I was not present in the room but my interpretation (after carefully reading the report) is the girl offered her number without he even asking.
This does happen, but cannot be called a "normal" occurrence.
~BKKguru
I am sweating by only reading your story! It seems like a lot of stress, but you probably had good reasons to get to Singapore. I go to LA Cafe frequently and normally will pay 1500-2000 peso. Never more. Sometimes I get sexy nice girls, some other times I have no luck. But I make it very clear what I want to pay. Normally no problem there. The young girls upstairs looking at the "Japanese / Korean" section inside does not interest me. They will ask for 5 K I am sure. LA Cafe is a hit and miss. But sometimes you can find a diamond in the ruff.The girls frequently offer what they think the market will bear. The same girl might charge 5 k at one time and location and accept 1 k at another.
The OP was prepared to pay for convenience and had a good time. The girl was satisfied enough to leave her number, hoping for another similar meet up. In my eyes that's a win-win.
I'd agree that swapping numbers when everyone has had a good time is pretty normal.
Enjoy. G.
BrainDrain
03-08-19, 05:15
Had the itch to turn an overnight layover into a night in Manila.
On paper Tokyo flight landed at 12 am, morning after would resume 10 am to Singapore.
Legit opportunity to get 4-6 hours of the night. I think.Thanks for the trip report. I've done a similar packed overnight in Singapore, arriving 2 am, just going directly to 4 Floors, hotel then takeoff again 9:30 am.
On my very first Surigao visit my return flight went you / S. Met an amazing girl that night in the airline's expense.
Serendipity rules.
BD.
Just a quick question: Google maps is showing Manila bay cafe as permanently closed. Can anyone confirm if that is right. I hope there is more places in the area than just LA Cafe. Anyone have any recent visits or report of other bars\spas\whatevers that is good for mongering?
FWIW, I paid under US $100 for several new Moto G4 (on sale), pretty much a world phone with all the possible bands. I can confirm that it works well in North America, Europe, and Asia (including China). I have my other primary "world phones" with much better cameras and specs like the Google offers and others; all made in China but costing much more. The G4 does not have an eSIM but is a great travelling phone. No big deal if it goes missing as everything is backed up on the internet and can be remotely erased. You might see some ladies sporting one if they don't mind the so so pictures.
What kind of phone did you get for $150?
I paid US $ 150 on Ebay and its more than I need.
Mr Enternational
03-12-19, 04:39
Just a quick question: Google maps is showing Manila bay cafe as permanently closed. Can anyone confirm if that is right. I hope there is more places in the area than just LA Cafe. Anyone have any recent visits or report of other bars\spas\whatevers that is good for mongering?You are talking about the same place. They just change the name back and forth. Still open.
FWIW, I paid under US $100 for several new Moto G4 (on sale), pretty much a world phone with all the possible bands. I can confirm that it works well in North America, Europe, and Asia (including China). I have my other primary "world phones" with much better cameras and specs like the Google offers and others; all made in China but costing much more. The G4 does not have an eSIM but is a great travelling phone. No big deal if it goes missing as everything is backed up on the internet and can be remotely erased. You might see some ladies sporting one if they don't mind the so so pictures.The Moto G4 is an excellent cp for Philippines. It only uses a single sim but has great 4 g reception. I suggest you buy the tempered glass screen protector for it.
BTW, most all Moto cp work great in PH. Get the international models.
US phones are mostly one SIM as were the ones I got. Asian variants are usually dual SIM. The Asian variant was US $30+ more and did not come with a free USB QC 2.0 power bank. I love US sales! LOL! In fact, I buy many Asian manufactured electronics for US delivery because it can be 10 to30% cheaper than having an Asian or local delivery (even if I am within spitting distance of the factory). Go figure.
The Moto G4 is an excellent cp for Philippines. It only uses a single sim but has great 4 g reception. I suggest you buy the tempered glass screen protector for it.
BTW, most all Moto cp work great in PH. Get the international models.
Member #4698
03-12-19, 19:38
The Moto G4 is an excellent cp for Philippines. It only uses a single sim but has great 4 g reception. I suggest you buy the tempered glass screen protector for it.
BTW, most all Moto cp work great in PH. Get the international models.
FWIW, I paid under US $100 for several new Moto G4 (on sale), pretty much a world phone with all the possible bands. I can confirm that it works well in North America, Europe, and Asia (including China). I have my other primary "world phones" with much better cameras and specs like the Google offers and others; all made in China but costing much more. The G4 does not have an eSIM but is a great travelling phone. No big deal if it goes missing as everything is backed up on the internet and can be remotely erased. You might see some ladies sporting one if they don't mind the so so pictures.I have been mulling over the idea of buying a 2nd phone dedicated for travel & girls for a couple of months in anticipation of my next trip. On past trips I have just swapped out my USA sim card with a local sim card whenever I was out and about and not in my Wi-Fi hotel where an American sim card works just fine for Line, Viber, WeChat, and WhatsApp texts and conversations. The problem was outside of Wi-Fi range my American sim card is pretty useless, but I still needed my American sim card to deal with business back home, so I could not just leave a PI or Thai sim card in my phone until I returned home and the process of changing sim cards on an almost daily basis grows rather tiresome and annoying. So, I realized after my last trip I needed a 2nd phone. The only issue was what cell phone would be best for my needs and be the most cost productive.
My regular phone is a Samsung S8 which is the best smart phone I have ever owned. I realize the S9 is marginally better and the S10 is probably significantly better, but I have no interest in upgrading at this point. The S8 is great and will remain my primary cell phone for some time to come. So, I wanted to spend less for a 2nd phone, but I still wanted a quality phone that could take respectable pics of girls, had a decent battery life, and a workable operating system. So, I first looked at older model, yet still NEW Samsung models like the J6 or S6 which were considered top of the line phones at the time of their initial roll outs. In BKK the price for these older Samsungs was between 5,000 and 6,500 baht. Not bad, but then I took a look at the Motorola lineup particularly the Moto G phones which have always received the highest reviews in the "budget" phone category. I looked at the G5, G6 and the just issued G7. An unlocked G5 was under $185 and seemed to get better reviews all around than it's newer sibling the G6. Then I began reading up on the just released G7 which received much better reviews than either the G5 or G6 in terms of camera, battery life, and operating system which are the areas I am most concerned with. So in the end, I paid up for the G7. The price was $285 unlocked with no sim card direct from Motorola. The clincher for me was the zero interest rate offer from Moto which meant I will pay $13/ month for the G7 until it is paid off and in the meantime I have the best "budget" cell phone available.
My Moto G7 came last week. I bought a no contract / pay as you go plan with T Mobil for $3/ month so I could test the phone and set it up the way I want before my trip. The phone works great, battery is excellent, and software is running smoothly. It in now way looks or operates like a "budget" phone. I think Moto hit this one out of the ball park. I did upgrade for the Camera FV-5 app ($3. 95 at the Google store to improve the photography capabilities) and I am ready to go on my next trip phone wise. My Samsung S8 will be my American and Hotel Wi-Fi phone. My Moto G7 will be my out and about phone. I am sure I could have sufficed with the Moto G4 or G5, but what the hell, I plan to use my G7 for many years to come. It was a good buy especially at zero interest $13/month.
IMHO, I like dual SIM unless a good sale in the US (one SIM models). All my flagship phones are dual and it is really convenient. You can now hide and have different users on the Androids (Mr. Hyde and Dr. Jekyll). The Moto cameras are not that good. Hence the flagship phones.
I am actually going to get a China Mi phone to try. Half the price of a similar Samsung and probably half the cpu speed. But hey, I don't play games on my phones. And under USD100. You should give Fi a test. Speeds better than TM.
My Moto G7 came last week. I bought a no contract / pay as you go plan with T Mobil for $3/ month so I could test the phone and set it up the way I want before my trip. The phone works great, battery is excellent, and software is running smoothly. It in now way looks or operates like a "budget" phone.
Member #4698
03-12-19, 22:43
IMHO, I like dual SIM unless a good sale in the US (one SIM models). All my flagship phones are dual and it is really convenient. You can now hide and have different users on the Androids (Mr. Hyde and Dr. Jekyll). The Moto cameras are not that good. Hence the flagship phones.
I am actually going to get a China Mi phone to try. Half the price of a similar Samsung and probably half the cpu speed. But hey, I don't play games on my phones. And under USD100. You should give Fi a test. Speeds better than TM.A dual sim phone makes a lot of sense. Samsung S8's & S9's manufactured for the Asian market are dual sim, but not the American models. You can buy an "international" unlocked brand new Samsung from Amazon, but it does not come with a warranty and the buyer should be aware of this before making the purchase. I think a better idea, if you are a frequent traveler, would be making the purchase from a licensed store in Thailand, Japan, HKG, or the PI for one of these dual sim card flagship phones and getting the warranty.
Good luck with the China Mi phone. Let us know how it works out.
IMHO, I like dual SIM unless a good sale in the US (one SIM models). All my flagship phones are dual and it is really convenient. .....
Another option is to buy a model or two back in the flagship line. I recently bought a pair of Samsung S8+ (dual sims) to replace a pair of S5's (one dual one single) and they were less that $500 on Amazon plus shipping. Both cost less than a new middle level S10+ is today and have all the features I need. (The two phones were about what I paid for the single sim S5 in Dubai back in 2014 when it was top of the line.)
Splurge another $30 on a classy looking case and you are set.
Another option is to buy a model or two back in the flagship line. I recently bought a pair of Samsung S8+ (dual sims) to replace a pair of S5's (one dual one single) and they were less that $500 on Amazon plus shipping. Both cost less than a new middle level S10+ is today and have all the features I need. (The two phones were about what I paid for the single sim S5 in Dubai back in 2014 when it was top of the line.)
Splurge another $30 on a classy looking case and you are set.Usually the cell phones are less expensive in the states than in PH. PH adds the import tax on it (38%.
Moto brand is not available in PH. I just picked up a couple Moto G4 for my next trip. Contrary to what some people here may think the PH girls think Moto is a great brand. All that matters is what they think and my wallet.
I personally use a second hand iPhone 6. I hook it up to the iCloud and can get imessages from stateside. I get mostly LTE service through out PH with it. Last year I lost one to a pickpocketer in a AC jeepney. I picked up an unlocked used IP 6 for $200.
I should mention that the power banks themselves were listed on Amazxn for USD30. So one could say each phone was less than USD70. (I don't remember for sure, but the package was either USD99 or USD89. You were limited to 2 so I had others order for me after I tested mine out) And this was a couple years back. For those looking, there are better budget world phones now on sale. But those QC power banks are great. The girls like them because it even charges regular phones up very quickly. The power banks I have now for personal use have PD and QC so they can also juice up iPhones fast. Just keep an eye out for US sales.
US phones are mostly one SIM as were the ones I got. Asian variants are usually dual SIM. The Asian variant was US $30+ more and did not come with a free USB QC 2.0 power bank. I love US sales! LOL! In fact, I buy many Asian manufactured electronics for US delivery because it can be 10 to30% cheaper than having an Asian or local delivery (even if I am within spitting distance of the factory). Go figure.
US phones are mostly one SIM as were the ones I got. Asian variants are usually dual SIM. The Asian variant was US $30+ more and did not come with a free USB QC 2.0 power bank. I love US sales! LOL! In fact, I buy many Asian manufactured electronics for US delivery because it can be 10 to30% cheaper than having an Asian or local delivery (even if I am within spitting distance of the factory). Go figure.The US phones do not have the LTE bands for the Philippines. The international phones do have the proper LTE or 4 g bands for Philippines. But you do need to check the specs for it. I believe the LTE bands are B1, B3 and B5, which would cover the different carriers.
This is mine. Specifically a US G4 Play. Bottom end of G4 line. Had to look it up.
LTE (FDD): Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12,13, 17,25, 26.
LTE (TDD): Bands 41.
And.
CDMA: 800,1900 MHz.
GSM: 850,900, 1800,1900 MHz.
UMTS: 850,900, 1700/2100, 1800,1900, 2100 MHz.
I don't remember exactly but was confirmed on a forum work on at least one of the CMDA carriers Verizon, Sprint, Boast.
Can't go at that price then.
The US phones do not have the LTE bands for the Philippines. The international phones do have the proper LTE or 4 g bands for Philippines. But you do need to check the specs for it. I believe the LTE bands are B1, B3 and B5, which would cover the different carriers.
This is mine. Specifically a US G4 Play. Bottom end of G4 line. Had to look it up.
LTE (FDD): Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12,13, 17,25, 26.
LTE (TDD): Bands 41.
And.
CDMA: 800,1900 MHz.
GSM: 850,900, 1800,1900 MHz.
UMTS: 850,900, 1700/2100, 1800,1900, 2100 MHz.
I don't remember exactly but was confirmed on a forum work on at least one of the CMDA carriers Verizon, Sprint, Boast.
Can't go at that price then.Moto G4 Play works real good in PH.
There isn't any CMDA carriers in PH.
Gaston Castano
03-14-19, 19:01
Jenny is one of my got to girls for an evening relaxation.
She is 5'2" thin and quite pretty.
Face: 7/10.
Body: 7.5/10.
Attitude: 10/10.
Sex: 8/10.
WIR, yes whenever I am feeling too tired and need to get pampered a bit.
PM me for digits, for old experienced members only.
GC.
Jenny is one of my got to girls for an evening relaxation.
She is 5'2" thin and quite pretty.
Face: 7/10.
Body: 7.5/10.
Attitude: 10/10.
Sex: 8/10.
WIR, yes whenever I am feeling too tired and need to get pampered a bit.
PM me for digits, for old experienced members only.
GC.Gaston, are you sure you can receive private messages? I tried to send to you. Would appreciate the contact if you can send direct to me. Thanks.
RpTraveller
03-15-19, 13:29
Gaston, are you sure you can receive private messages? I tried to send to you. Would appreciate the contact if you can send direct to me. Thanks.True. Your PM is deactivated. Will be thankful if you can share the digits.
Mr Enternational
03-24-19, 16:08
A few minutes ago me and my girlfriends were heading in. The Grab stopped at a traffic signal and to the right was two of those places I always see with Christmas lights around the door. I told her that I wanted to go to one of those places. She said I bet you do, assuming I already knew what it was. I said what is it. She did not want to tell me but I am persistant. She said it is called a beer house. You can go there and drink beer and pay women for sex. Why have I never seen those places discussed here? I see tons of them and have always just assumed they were regular local neighborhood bars.
Mr Enternational
03-24-19, 16:14
I had paid my hotel through hotels dot com. When we arrived at the hotel, they wanted a 1000 peso deposit. Not wanting to give away my cash, I told them to put it on my Amex. They said they only take Visa and MC.
Always wondering what happens if you do not pay a deposit, I decided to test the waters. I said so you are not going to allow me to stay here? The girl went to the back to talk to someone and came back and said if I got anything at the bar or restaurant then I would have to pay for it on the spot. I said okay and she gave us the key to our room.
The girl went to the back to talk to someone and came back and said if I got anything at the bar or restaurant then I would have to pay for it on the spot. I said okay and she gave us the key to our room.I think it is just a minibar deposit. Did your room have a minibar full of overpriced items?
I had paid my hotel through hotels dot com. When we arrived at the hotel, they wanted a 1000 peso deposit. Not wanting to give away my cash, I told them to put it on my Amex. They said they only take Visa and MC.
Always wondering what happens if you do not pay a deposit, I decided to test the waters. I said so you are not going to allow me to stay here? The girl went to the back to talk to someone and came back and said if I got anything at the bar or restaurant then I would have to pay for it on the spot. I said okay and she gave us the key to our room.It is common practice everywhere to take a deposit on credit card for incidentals. In Philippines they generally want cash deposit 1000 pesos per day. I guess they are afraid you will take their towels, sheets, pillows in addition to what's in the fridge and snacks They will give cash back on check out.
I had paid my hotel through hotels dot com. When we arrived at the hotel, they wanted a 1000 peso deposit. Always wondering what happens if you do not pay a deposit, I decided to test the waters. I said so you are not going to allow me to stay here?No cause for you resorting to gross rudeness.
I always tell them (no matter where) that I haven't changed into local currency yet, could they wait 'til I get unpacked and go out? It's moot after that — most all the time. Only issue with deposits is. If they 'forget' to give it back. In a checkout hurry, you may forget. At Central Park Tower in AC, take note: the reception girls seem to make a habit of forgetting to offer to refund your deposit, almost like they're fishing for it, as a tip.
VictorHugo99
03-25-19, 02:51
Good scoop Mr. E.
Hope to hear of your beer house discoveries soon on the forum.
Vic.
A few minutes ago me and my girlfriends were heading in. The Grab stopped at a traffic signal and to the right was two of those places I always see with Christmas lights around the door. I told her that I wanted to go to one of those places. She said I bet you do, assuming I already knew what it was. I said what is it. She did not want to tell me but I am persistant. She said it is called a beer house. You can go there and drink beer and pay women for sex. Why have I never seen those places discussed here? I see tons of them and have always just assumed they were regular local neighborhood bars.
They are seedy and dark and dangerous especially if you foreign. They have been around a long time. When I first went several decades ago, some locals took me. And everyone was a little edgy because we hit like 3 before picking one they felt comfortable in.
have I never seen those places discussed here? I see tons of them and have always just assumed they were regular local neighborhood bars.
A few minutes ago me and my girlfriends were heading in. The Grab stopped at a traffic signal and to the right was two of those places I always see with Christmas lights around the door. I told her that I wanted to go to one of those places. She said I bet you do, assuming I already knew what it was. I said what is it. She did not want to tell me but I am persistant. She said it is called a beer house. You can go there and drink beer and pay women for sex. Why have I never seen those places discussed here? I see tons of them and have always just assumed they were regular local neighborhood bars.There are many of these beer bars around ermita. In fact some of them on the same street as LA cafe, Del Pilar Street. I had the pleasure of going in there few years ago.
To be truthful they are not brothels. They have reasonably pretty girls to entice you to come in. Drinks are overpriced. Set up is like Karaoke but they do not have karaoke machines. Girls will sit with you, drink with you, talk with you, joke with you, touch you enticingly but no grabbing. There are tough looking bouncers. Idea is to make money by getting you drunk. I did not see many customers when I went in. I was enticed in by a very pretty girl. I had couple of beers (expensive) bought the girl a drink (expensive) talked, got her phone number with a promise of hook up after work. I did not call her.
Sure enough next evening I get a text from her asking me to come to the bar. At that time I was in LA cafe and I texted her saying she can come to my hotel (Bayview Park) after work and we can spend time together and I will give her money. She said she will let me know. At that point I said I am in the process of getting a girl and if she is not interested she should tell me. Many texts saying I need to come to her bar and once she gets to know me she will go with me. I said no.
In conclusion it is like bait to get you in, sell you overpriced drinks. At least in karaoke you might have a chance to take a girl you are a big spender. I have done that in China. Also a girl I met on the street duped me but that is another story.
Curious if there are freelancers in this mall?
WestCoast1
03-28-19, 00:40
Curious if there are freelancers in this mall?Yes, they stand near the escalators located just inside the entrance on Pedro Gil street (across from the Starbucks in the mall). Sometimes there is a mama with them.
Mr Enternational
03-28-19, 01:43
Yes, they stand near the escalators located just inside the entrance on Pedro Gil street (across from the Starbucks in the mall). Sometimes there is a mama with them.If you walk out that door and to the right there are more under that breezeway next to the street than there are inside.
Manfield04
03-28-19, 05:02
There are lots of FLs in the mall. As you enter from Pedro Gill, you will find them on the right, near the escalators and on the way to the departmental stores. You will also notice some go up and down the escalators as if they have come for shopping but in fact they are trying to hook up with someone.
Curious if there are freelancers in this mall?
Transporter
03-28-19, 05:19
A few minutes ago me and my girlfriends were heading in. The Grab stopped at a traffic signal and to the right was two of those places I always see with Christmas lights around the door. I told her that I wanted to go to one of those places. She said I bet you do, assuming I already knew what it was. I said what is it. She did not want to tell me but I am persistant. She said it is called a beer house. You can go there and drink beer and pay women for sex. Why have I never seen those places discussed here? I see tons of them and have always just assumed they were regular local neighborhood bars.Probably because most of the info is discussed on pm.
Not sure it is called a beer house, but beer houses do exist here in Malate also. Actually what you saw may have been what the locals call casa. Although it is not the casa like before, it still is a boarding house for girls (they sleep upstairs or in the back) that work the trade, and it is also a bar where you can buy drinks and ladies drinks. Same as the bars in ac you can poke your head in pick a girl, pay the mommie and off you go with the girl. Or you can go in buy a bunch of girls a drink and make your selection.
In the main area of Malate I know of 5 of these types of bars, there are probably more, just haven't needed to go looking since the selection of opportunity is so high in Malate. Don't count on the selection to be great all the time, but it is very convenient, and economical to pull a girl from those bars, just do your interview well.
Transporter
03-28-19, 05:30
Curious if there are freelancers in this mall?There use to be a huge herd of them (and yes I mean herd) before right where the smoking area is in front of Starbucks. They will gather at night. About a year or so ago security has been pushing them off property, and they have been migrating to the corner. You can still find them at night, even though the herd has gotten smaller and more spread out, but really, of all the years I have been playing in Malate, I have never seen anything from the herd that I would be interested in yet. This could be because I am not at the mall in the late evening but for sure early evening and day is a total bust. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so don't let me discourage you from checking it out.
I'm pretty sure that anything north of Pedro Gil would be Ermita. That would mean all of Robinsons Mall. Malate is south of P. Gil.
I've used are. Mall as a meeting place many times with gals I met online. As for direct P4P at the mall, only twice. The first time was a gal who was giving eye contact just outside the Pedro Gil entrance. I was about to go talk to her since she was quite good looking. Suddenly, an older woman cornered my target and started talking about religion. Very frustrating. I waited and my patience was rewarded. We had our fun at Cherry Blossoms Hotel, which was the first and last time I stayed there. The gal wasn't very enthusiastic. She struck me as someone who had an urgent need for cash and just wanted to get it over with.
The second time was shortly after closing and a young, cute looking stunner was with two other gals and someone we might call Mama, or M.
X: Hello.
M: You want girl?
X: Sure, how much?
M: Up to you.
X: How about P1200? (I don't remember exactly, but I started low and was expecting a bit of nego).
M: Okay.
Unfortunately, Ms. Cute then objected angrily to M. So now we are in a very public place and they are making a scene. I just walked away. I guess my opening bid should have been a bit more generous.
I'll agree with Transporter, you should go to the mall for regular shopping. But you never know! X Man.
There use to be a huge herd of them (and yes I mean herd) before right where the smoking area is in front of Starbucks. They will gather at night. About a year or so ago security has been pushing them off property, and they have been migrating to the corner. You can still find them at night, even though the herd has gotten smaller and more spread out, but really, of all the years I have been playing in Malate, I have never seen anything from the herd that I would be interested in yet. This could be because I am not at the mall in the late evening but for sure early evening and day is a total bust. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so don't let me discourage you from checking it out.
PedroMorales
03-28-19, 16:29
I'll agree with Transporter, you should go to the mall for regular shopping. But you never know! X Man.Which is what you did. They should have had a 3 for 2 offer or some such. The quality of merchandise varies a lot in Robisons and you confirm that. Maybe they should have been at the 99 PHP store. Got to watch the exchange conmen there. Always report them to security.
Roaming the Manila thread for my upcoming trip (contributed reports on my past PP / Cambodia trip) and I came across countless mobile phone and phone card posts. Super annoying and useless IMHO. Here is why: the cheapest gal someone rents will cost a many multiple of a phone card one can get at any airport. Bring a phone that is unlocked, case closed. It's really that simple. Being a cheap Charlie is one thing but hackling over 50 or 100 p for better deals is embarrassing. Takes a lot of fun away from reading the otherwise awesome field reports, especially those by the dinosaurs in our profession, whom I worship and highly respect for their wit and humor.
Roaming the Manila thread for my upcoming trip (contributed reports on my past PP / Cambodia trip) and I came across countless mobile phone and phone card posts. Super annoying and useless IMHO. Here is why: the cheapest gal someone rents will cost a many multiple of a phone card one can get at any airport. Bring a phone that is unlocked, case closed. It's really that simple. Being a cheap Charlie is one thing but hackling over 50 or 100 p for better deals is embarrassing. Takes a lot of fun away from reading the otherwise awesome field reports, especially those by the dinosaurs in our profession, whom I worship and highly respect for their wit and humor.Dumb posts about smart phones. 50 pesos saved is 50 pesos earned (to some). Time is money. Some people's time is worth 50 pesos. Not mine.
A few minutes ago me and my girlfriends were heading in. The Grab stopped at a traffic signal and to the right was two of those places I always see with Christmas lights around the door. I told her that I wanted to go to one of those places. She said I bet you do, assuming I already knew what it was. I said what is it. She did not want to tell me but I am persistant. She said it is called a beer house. You can go there and drink beer and pay women for sex. Why have I never seen those places discussed here? I see tons of them and have always just assumed they were regular local neighborhood bars.I landed in Manila the other night. Grab driver drove thru Paranque and I noticed the beer bar lights. Seen them before but never gave them any thought. I asked the driver about them and he said they are known as Paranque bars. There are 2-3 blocks of them. You don't see any girls or barkers outside but the front doors are open. Really can't see anything as the bars are pretty dark inside. Driver said a few weeks ago he had passenger ask about them as he drove by. The guy decided to get a 2 star hotel there next to the bars. Passenger said it was foreigner friendly and took many girls from the bar for 4 K.
I myself would not venture there. That's what I got 3rd hand.
Dumb posts about smart phones. 50 pesos saved is 50 pesos earned (to some). Time is money. Some people's time is worth 50 pesos. Not mine.PI has one of the most expensive data plans in Asia and some of the slowest and worst coverage. I am not sure if they banned Hawaii but low cost is one way to build a better network. Off hand, government usually have the best startup and service until private catches up and piggy back off the government infrastructures.
Switches used to be very expensive. Now, in the US, many new houses come pre-wired with places for power and switches right next to the line in to hard wire connect everything. Optional to have someone install everything for you for plug and play. Heck, you can build your panic room right there.
I myself would not venture there. That's what I got 3rd hand.Some locals will not admit to going but did try in my younger days. Take one for the team and report back! LOL.
RpTraveller
04-05-19, 13:23
I am coming to Manila for a 10 day getaway. But I am yet to fix on a place to stay. Can you guys help with that? My initial plan was to settle down in BGC. A few of my friends suggested Gramercy instead. Some suggested Poblacion. A girl whom I befriended on a dating site suggested pasay. I have the airbnb website open in front of me, but the huge list of options are bewildering.
I want to have a nice time. Women. Booze. Partying and I want to play it safe.
Please help.
Albert9989
04-05-19, 19:04
I am coming to Manila for a 10 day getaway. But I am yet to fix on a place to stay. Can you guys help with that? My initial plan was to settle down in BGC. A few of my friends suggested Gramercy instead. Some suggested Poblacion. A girl whom I befriended on a dating site suggested pasay. I have the airbnb website open in front of me, but the huge list of options are bewildering.
I want to have a nice time. Women. Booze. Partying and I want to play it safe.
Please help.One option is Burgos, many clubs around if you like, greenbelt not far away with girls hanging around on evening, many hotels around.
Engine Driver
04-05-19, 22:58
I am coming to Manila for a 10 day getaway. But I am yet to fix on a place to stay. Can you guys help with that? My initial plan was to settle down in BGC. A few of my friends suggested Gramercy instead. Some suggested Poblacion. A girl whom I befriended on a dating site suggested pasay. I have the airbnb website open in front of me, but the huge list of options are bewildering.
I want to have a nice time. Women. Booze. Partying and I want to play it safe.
Please help.Why don't you split your time 50/50 across Ermita and Makati? They are the two main mongering zones. Ermita gives you LA Cafe, access to EDSA and various smaller clubs. Makati gives you Burgos Street and freelancers at Greenbelt.
Dear All,
I have been flying on and off last year to Manila and stay all the time at AG new world Manila bay hotel (formerly Hyatt), most of the time I monger and pick up girls at La Cafe, although try to explore freelancer at Robinson but have once encounter they are just not fun to be with, very commercial, trying to find many customers in a night, not my types.
I have seen several small bar like place along the alley around my said hotel, I wonder are they beer houses or what? Dare not to try as they have some girls outside and some guys too. Anyone can share their thoughts?
Cheers,
MD.
Transporter
04-06-19, 11:21
Dear All,
I have been flying on and off last year to Manila and stay all the time at AG new world Manila bay hotel (formerly Hyatt), most of the time I monger and pick up girls at La Cafe, although try to explore freelancer at Robinson but have once encounter they are just not fun to be with, very commercial, trying to find many customers in a night, not my types.
I have seen several small bar like place along the alley around my said hotel, I wonder are they beer houses or what? Dare not to try as they have some girls outside and some guys too. Anyone can share their thoughts?
Cheers,
MD.If you are staying at the old Hyatt, then you are surrounded by KTV bars.
If you are staying at the old Hyatt, then you are surrounded by KTV bars.Thanks for reply.
Any idea over the modus operendi of those KTV bar? I saw some looks cater for Japanese and some seems to have locals. Any advise?
Cheers,
MD.
Why don't you split your time 50/50 across Ermita and Makati? They are the two main mongering zones. Ermita gives you LA Cafe, access to EDSA and various smaller clubs. Makati gives you Burgos Street and freelancers at Greenbelt.You are right Mr. Driver. That's what I would do.
ShimShimHeyo
04-06-19, 17:10
I am coming to Manila for a 10 day getaway. But I am yet to fix on a place to stay. Can you guys help with that? My initial plan was to settle down in BGC. A few of my friends suggested Gramercy instead. Some suggested Poblacion. A girl whom I befriended on a dating site suggested pasay. I have the airbnb website open in front of me, but the huge list of options are bewildering.
I want to have a nice time. Women. Booze. Partying and I want to play it safe.
Please help.I personally like staying in Makati near Greenbelt. From the airport, it's a quick ride on the freeway. From my hotel, in walking distance, there are supermarkets to buy drinks and snacks, 4 malls for whatever I may need, John Barber's to get a cut and a shave and tons of restaurants. I especially like the fact that there is a 24 pancake house that I can walk to. I find the area to be nicely located, generally safe even at night and pretty much free from street peddlers. It's super close to Cafe Havana, down the street from Burgos and semi close to EDSA. I'm going to Manila in a week and I'm comfortable with my go-to spot. I plan to hit Burgos, EDSA and partake in my regular outcall agencies. I tried staying in Passay and thought it was ok. It's close to EDSA and Air Force 1 and somewhat close to LA Cafe but I found it hard to get around by foot to anything during the day and had to take Lift rides everywhere. I also stayed in Villamor because it was close to the airport but hated it because it's far from the night life.
Why don't you split your time 50/50 across Ermita and Makati? They are the two main mongering zones. Ermita gives you LA Cafe, access to EDSA and various smaller clubs. Makati gives you Burgos Street and freelancers at Greenbelt.Fantastic advice, I always do this. I have often included the Timog Circle area which gives you access to the Quezon City scene, the Chinatown area which gives you access to the Rizal ave and Tondo areas (innumerable poor, young girls ready to wait on you hand and cock) and finally the EDSA / Roxas area for the EDSA Entertainment Zone and easy access to the airport and fancy casinos, but close to the MRT. LRT for escaping back into the city when needed.
Engine Driver
04-07-19, 03:20
<SNIP> and Tondo areas (innumerable poor, young girls ready to wait on you hand and cock) <SNIP>I'm sure you could get a few young hotties for the price of a bowl of delicious pagpag in Tondo. After lunch, they could then accompany you on a hiking trek across the great Smokey Mountains. LOL.
Can't agree more. I stay at Sunny Bay suites which is close to LA Cafe for Ermita and right next to Greenbelt mall near Havana Cafe, about 50/50.
On another note, has anyone ever run into a lady who often frequents bars in Ermita within walking distance from LA Cafe. She calls herself the "Queen of Puerto Galera" (wink wink pretty obvious what she did there for years). She is an early 40's MILF but super sexy and still tight even though her superior skills definitely point to lots of mileage. I met her once and she was awesome but lost her contact. Also forgot the name of the bar near LA Cafe (not LA Cafe itself). She is a freelancer. Anyone who has ever done her and would know of her whereabouts? I will be in Manila shortly and want to bang her again.
Why don't you split your time 50/50 across Ermita and Makati? They are the two main mongering zones. Ermita gives you LA Cafe, access to EDSA and various smaller clubs. Makati gives you Burgos Street and freelancers at Greenbelt.
Transporter
04-08-19, 11:36
Can't agree more. I stay at Sunny Bay suites which is close to LA Cafe for Ermita and right next to Greenbelt mall near Havana Cafe, about 50/50.
On another note, has anyone ever run into a lady who often frequents bars in Ermita within walking distance from LA Cafe. She calls herself the "Queen of Puerto Galera" (wink wink pretty obvious what she did there for years). She is an early 40's MILF but super sexy and still tight even though her superior skills definitely point to lots of mileage. I met her once and she was awesome but lost her contact. Also forgot the name of the bar near LA Cafe (not LA Cafe itself). She is a freelancer. Anyone who has ever done her and would know of her whereabouts? I will be in Manila shortly and want to bang her again.If this was a while back I would say try Amazonia, but since it is closed now, the next most probable place would be G point.
Thanks a lot for the pointer. Will check it out. It was a smaller bar with just pool table and they had a Mexican or Greek salad that was awesome, that's all I remember of that bar. My eyes caught her sitting on a high chair and dangling her sexy heels and I slipped her a note with my phone number when I walked out. Few minutes later she sent me an sms and then we talked on the phone about how she thought I was handing her some trash or so when she later noticed it to be my phone number. She came over to Sunny Bay Suite and I let her take an HIV and Std self test with the kit I brought because I was really looking to shag her without protection. Boy, was she worth it. Women like her are the ultimate reward for a lifelong effort to avoid lazy ass millennial and other gals. She knew how to work her body and made me cum three times in the 2 hours she was with me. I love MILFs, they just really know how to handle a horny guy. I have not touched any Pinay under 30 ever since. But don't get me wrong, I am not into grannies either.
If this was a while back I would say try Amazonia, but since it is closed now, the next most probable place would be G point.
Engine Driver
04-09-19, 10:58
I've RTFF and know this is in the wrong thread.
I'd appreciate some advice on Quezon City. I'm thinking of spending a couple of nights in QC to check out the scene. Should I be staying along Timog Avenue or Aurora Boulevard, Cubao for better mongering action. I'm not really into KTVs. I'm looking for bars with girls you can barfine, bars with freelancers. Another monger recently wrote about his positive experience at Bang Bang-ali Bar, just off Aurora. I appreciate that patrons will all be Filipinos and understand the risks, but am really curious.
Also, if my international flight is leaving at 8. 00 pm at NAIA, what time should I be leaving QC by cab?
MadisonGuy
04-15-19, 04:52
Thanks a lot for the pointer. Will check it out. It was a smaller bar with just pool table and they had a Mexican or Greek salad that was awesome, that's all I remember of that bar. My eyes caught her sitting on a high chair and dangling her sexy heels and I slipped her a note with my phone number when I walked out. Few minutes later she sent me an sms and then we talked on the phone about how she thought I was handing her some trash or so when she later noticed it to be my phone number. She came over to Sunny Bay Suite and I let her take an HIV and Std self test with the kit I brought because I was really looking to shag her without protection. Boy, was she worth it. Women like her are the ultimate reward for a lifelong effort to avoid lazy ass millennial and other gals. She knew how to work her body and made me cum three times in the 2 hours she was with me. I love MILFs, they just really know how to handle a horny guy. I have not touched any Pinay under 30 ever since. But don't get me wrong, I am not into grannies either.So I guess if the test makes you feel better go for it, but the odds of a male catching HIV during sex from a female are over 10000 to 1. You can google it.
I am coming to Manila for a 10 day getaway. But I am yet to fix on a place to stay. Can you guys help with that? My initial plan was to settle down in BGC. A few of my friends suggested Gramercy instead. Some suggested Poblacion. A girl whom I befriended on a dating site suggested pasay. I have the airbnb website open in front of me, but the huge list of options are bewildering.
I want to have a nice time. Women. Booze. Partying and I want to play it safe.
Please help.You didn't mention price, but, if that isn't much of an issue, the old Hyatt on Mabini and Pedro Gil is an excellent option for Ermita and LA Cafe as well as the EDSA Entertainment Complex. A hotel the girls really like in Makati near Burgos is the I M Hotel on Kalayaan and Makati Ave. It's quite close to most of the action over there including the Royal (freelancers) which caters to a younger crowd, and the I M Hotel has an pool overlooking Makati Ave which the girls also really like.
Transporter
04-18-19, 10:58
I've RTFF and know this is in the wrong thread.
I'd appreciate some advice on Quezon City. I'm thinking of spending a couple of nights in QC to check out the scene. Should I be staying along Timog Avenue or Aurora Boulevard, Cubao for better mongering action. I'm not really into KTVs. I'm looking for bars with girls you can barfine, bars with freelancers. Another monger recently wrote about his positive experience at Bang Bang-ali Bar, just off Aurora. I appreciate that patrons will all be Filipinos and understand the risks, but am really curious.
Also, if my international flight is leaving at 8. 00 pm at NAIA, what time should I be leaving QC by cab?There is so much to partake in that area and if you don't use the rail, it is going to be time consuming moving around during the daytime. I would say anywhere between trinoma and farmers market should be good hunting grounds, but if you are looking for bars that you can BF girls, then I really don't know. I do a lot of hunting in the area, but no bar fining, its all pick ups. Makati, Malate, and Pasay all yes to bars with barfines, QC I will have to take a look around next time I am there.
I am not sure you would want to depart from QC if it is an international flight, as normally they would like you to show up 3 hours prior to get through security and everything. Depending upon where in QC you will be departing from time will vary, but to be safe I would allot 2 hours (for example balintawak hour or less, fairview 3 hours, san juan absolutely no idea since traffic is total fubar). I would suggest staying your last night closer to the airport.
Engine Driver
04-18-19, 23:14
There is so much to partake in that area and if you don't use the rail, it is going to be time consuming moving around during the daytime. I would say anywhere between trinoma and farmers market should be good hunting grounds, but if you are looking for bars that you can BF girls, then I really don't know. I do a lot of hunting in the area, but no bar fining, its all pick ups. Makati, Malate, and Pasay all yes to bars with barfines, QC I will have to take a look around next time I am there.
I am not sure you would want to depart from QC if it is an international flight, as normally they would like you to show up 3 hours prior to get through security and everything. Depending upon where in QC you will be departing from time will vary, but to be safe I would allot 2 hours (for example balintawak hour or less, fairview 3 hours, san juan absolutely no idea since traffic is total fubar). I would suggest staying your last night closer to the airport.Thanks Transporter, much appreciated. I will roll the dice and see what happens.
Hi there,
I am planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur or Manila. Have any of you heard about or even travelled to both cities and can comment on the difference (only in the hobby aspect)?
My primary concern is the cost.
My secondary considerations are the attitude and the availability of the girls. I prefer girls who are kinder and polite, instead of those who gets the money and just want to get you done in 5 min to move on. I won't have tons of time, so I prefer a city where girls are easily accessible, instead of matching on apps for days before I find a quality one.
Hi there,
I am planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur or Manila. Have any of you heard about or even travelled to both cities and can comment on the difference (only in the hobby aspect)?
My primary concern is the cost.
My secondary considerations are the attitude and the availability of the girls. I prefer girls who are kinder and polite, instead of those who gets the money and just want to get you done in 5 min to move on. I won't have tons of time, so I prefer a city where girls are easily accessible, instead of matching on apps for days before I find a quality one.Manila beats KL on all your preferences esp for a new visitors.
Enjoy. G.
VictorHugo99
04-22-19, 22:35
Hi KY,
Since you do not want to waste time on chatting and making connections, to simplify your life in KL, stick to Spa in KL hotels.
Just tell the manager OKT ALL your needs, the type of service and girls, he will make it happen.
You just need to pay the corresponding prices of course. With the currency in Malaysia being so low, it's still very do-able.
If you want to get lower prices, go to Chinatown area in KL and check out the massage boutiques, and don't be shy to ask clearly what you hope to have included in your service.
BBBJ and BBFS is not usual, unlike the Philippines.
Hope this helps.
Vic.
Hi there,
I am planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur or Manila. Have any of you heard about or even travelled to both cities and can comment on the difference (only in the hobby aspect)?
My primary concern is the cost.
My secondary considerations are the attitude and the availability of the girls. I prefer girls who are kinder and polite, instead of those who gets the money and just want to get you done in 5 min to move on. I won't have tons of time, so I prefer a city where girls are easily accessible, instead of matching on apps for days before I find a quality one.
Hi there,
I am planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur or Manila. Have any of you heard about or even travelled to both cities and can comment on the difference (only in the hobby aspect)?
My primary concern is the cost.
My secondary considerations are the attitude and the availability of the girls. I prefer girls who are kinder and polite, instead of those who gets the money and just want to get you done in 5 min to move on. I won't have tons of time, so I prefer a city where girls are easily accessible, instead of matching on apps for days before I find a quality one.G is correct. I've been to both. In fact, the best time I had in KL was with a Filipina who was working there as a doctor's assistant.
Blanquiceleste
04-23-19, 01:22
Hi there,
I am planning a trip to Kuala Lumpur or Manila. Have any of you heard about or even travelled to both cities and can comment on the difference (only in the hobby aspect)?
My primary concern is the cost.
My secondary considerations are the attitude and the availability of the girls. I prefer girls who are kinder and polite, instead of those who gets the money and just want to get you done in 5 min to move on. I won't have tons of time, so I prefer a city where girls are easily accessible, instead of matching on apps for days before I find a quality one.Day and night. Heaven and hell. There is no place in KL similar to Burgos or EDSA or even LA Cafe. Some may argue Beach Club but that can't hold a candle to what you get in Manila.
Most important difference is the local girls in KL do not ***** themselves while the supply in Manila is totally indigenous. That makes a huge difference in terms of availability.
Someone mentioned price. I don't think KL is cheap for mongering by any standard. Places I mentioned above in Manila are expensive too but there are far cheaper options.
Suggest you RTFF a bit and make up your mind finally.
Hi there,
Thanks for the replies to my previous question.
I have read this forum a bit, I get some information but some other things are not clear to me.
I have many questions, don't worry, feel free to comment on only some aspects of my post.
Background: I will have around 4 days in Manila. Unfortunately I can only mobilise restricted amount of money, so I need to pay attention to the cost.
Afterward, I will be back to the sex prison country.
I am not old myself, I am eager to date a teen, even 18 years old. Where can you most likely to find them? I also prefer girls who are friendly and with a good attitude. To me, their attitude is probably more important than their face.
First of all, and most importantly, if any of you know cute girls with good attitude, and is willing to share the digit, please PM me.
If there is one nice girl, I am more than happy to stick to her alone for my whole trip. I enjoy the GFE more than the sex itself.
I cannot say I am rich, but I am certainly friendly and respectful.
Cost: From what I read, 20-50 USD seems to be the normal price range? I did not find for how many hours that price is referring to.
What is the best time of the day to find a girl?
Approaches:
1. From what I read, is walking into the LA cafe the most popular way to find a girl?
I am not attractive or something, if the girls are in circle talking, do you try to break into the circle and chat up with the girl you are interested in?
What is the usual procedure? Is the price different comparing take-out vs on-site?
I read about EDSA, G point and royal club, it seems to be less straightforward / more expensive to get a girl there, right? How about XOXO, what is that?
2. The other popular site seems to be P. Burgos Street. How is P. Burgos Street compared to LA cafe? Is it cheaper? Are the girls high quality? Or they are all the same.
How do you tell if the girls are up for business vs normal girls.
How about Greenbelt, what is it?
3. I saw some of you used DIA, I installed it and had a look. Most girls seem to be there to look for serious relationship.
So, it will probably take more time to find someone on DIA?
What other online app / websites I should use? Does wechat work there or it is a waste of time.
4. Some of you mentioned picking up girls (SW? Normal girls?) in Robinson Mall. Is that common? What is the success rate?
5. Some of you mentioned Tondo, Isn't that a slum?
Other questions:
1. Do you find Manila safe?
2. BBFS seems to be very common. How about the rate of STDs? What precautions do you guys take? Do you prepare condoms or the girls always have them.
3. Probably it won't happen for a short trip like mine, but I am very curious if you guys got any semi-pro (girls who do it only very occasionally, instead of seeing 3+ guys every day), what are the best way to find them?
Engine Driver
04-23-19, 10:47
Hi there,
Thanks for the replies to my previous question.
I have read this forum a bit, I get some information but some other things are not clear to me.
I have many questions, don't worry, feel free to comment on only some aspects of my post.
Background: I will have around 4 days in Manila. Unfortunately I can only mobilise restricted amount of money, so I need to pay attention to the cost.
Afterward, I will be back to the sex prison country.
I am not old myself, I am eager to date a teen, even 18 years old. Where can you most likely to find them? I also prefer girls who are friendly and with a good attitude. To me, their attitude is probably more important than their face.
First of all, and most importantly, if any of you know cute girls with good attitude, and is willing to share the digit, please PM me.
If there is one nice girl, I am more than happy to stick to her alone for my whole trip. I enjoy the GFE more than the sex itself.
I cannot say I am rich, but I am certainly friendly and respectful.
Cost: From what I read, 20-50 USD seems to be the normal price range? I did not find for how many hours that price is referring to.
What is the best time of the day to find a girl?
Approaches:
1. From what I read, is walking into the LA cafe the most popular way to find a girl?
I am not attractive or something, if the girls are in circle talking, do you try to break into the circle and chat up with the girl you are interested in?
What is the usual procedure? Is the price different comparing take-out vs on-site?
I read about EDSA, G point and royal club, it seems to be less straightforward / more expensive to get a girl there, right? How about XOXO, what is that?
2. The other popular site seems to be P. Burgos Street. How is P. Burgos Street compared to LA cafe? Is it cheaper? Are the girls high quality? Or they are all the same.
How do you tell if the girls are up for business vs normal girls.
How about Greenbelt, what is it?
3. I saw some of you used DIA, I installed it and had a look. Most girls seem to be there to look for serious relationship.
So, it will probably take more time to find someone on DIA?
What other online app / websites I should use? Does wechat work there or it is a waste of time.
4. Some of you mentioned picking up girls (SW? Normal girls?) in Robinson Mall. Is that common? What is the success rate?
5. Some of you mentioned Tondo, Isn't that a slum?
Other questions:
1. Do you find Manila safe?
2. BBFS seems to be very common. How about the rate of STDs? What precautions do you guys take? Do you prepare condoms or the girls always have them.
3. Probably it won't happen for a short trip like mine, but I am very curious if you guys got any semi-pro (girls who do it only very occasionally, instead of seeing 3+ guys every day), what are the best way to find them?Lots of questions. I can answer a few and others may chip in.
Your budget per pop is on the low end, so you will have to restrict yourself to the freelancers at LA Cafe or the street walkers along Burgos Street. They will stay with you for short time at that price range. You will need $200 to collect a girl from a bar on Burgos Street for LT. EDSA will also be out of your price range. No point in in even entering unless you have the cash.
LA Cafe is a 24 hour sports / music bar in Ermita where freelancers will come to meet foreigners. All are semi-professional hookers. You just need to make eye contact. If she looks back at you for more than 3 seconds, the game is one. Just go up to her and negotiate the price. It will be between $30-50 for ST. Most will not be more than a 6 out of 10.
Burgos Street is the red light district in Makati. You can tell by the way the girls on the street dress if they are hookers. There are numerous gogo bars on Burgos Street. Plenty of massage girls and freelancers on the street will go with you for $30. Street girls will be low quality. The girls inside the bars will be high quality.
Manila is safe if you take precautions. Walk around in well lit, touristy places. Only take enough cash to cover that evening's entertainment. Don't wear jewellery or expensive watches. Never ever get into an argument. Always walk away, even if you end up being ripped off. Keep your phone / cash in your front pocket.
There are numerous gogo bars on Burgos Street. Plenty of massage girls and freelancers on the street will go with you for $30. Street girls will be low quality. The girls inside the bars will be high quality.KY,
No need to be paranoid but just be careful that many of the street girls are LBs. It's very easy to pick them when face to face.
Engine Driver
04-23-19, 11:59
Most important difference is the local girls in KL do not ***** themselves while the supply in Manila is totally indigenous. That makes a huge difference in terms of availability.
Bumiputra Malay muslim girls cannot work as prostitutes by Sharia law. All of the hookers in KL are from Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, PRC and other Asian countries. Few Russians as well.
I've been to spa where there was a sign on the entrance that said Malay muslims cannot be served (Sharia law). So it seemed the patrons can only be local Indians, local Chinese or foreigners.
Do I have to pay an airport usage fee flying out of NAIA on an international flight?
BrainDrain
04-23-19, 12:12
Do I have to pay an airport usage fee flying out of NAIA on an international flight?Yes but it is already included in your ticket price for foreigners.
Mr Enternational
04-23-19, 12:35
Do I have to pay an airport usage fee flying out of NAIA on an international flight?You do not have to pay it in cash. It is already in the ticket.
Thanks, sorry for asking so many questions in one post.
I am surprised that in PH girls ask for 200 USD, that's the price for a 6-7/10 in Europe (1 HR, 1-2 pop).
Just curious for a 8+ PH girl, say 2 hours, what would be the rate?
Thanks for the reply!
Lots of questions. I can answer a few and others may chip in.
Your budget per pop is on the low end, so you will have to restrict yourself to the freelancers at LA Cafe or the street walkers along Burgos Street. They will stay with you for short time at that price range. You will need $200 to collect a girl from a bar on Burgos Street for LT. EDSA will also be out of your price range. No point in in even entering unless you have the cash.
LA Cafe is a 24 hour sports / music bar in Ermita where freelancers will come to meet foreigners. All are semi-professional hookers. You just need to make eye contact. If she looks back at you for more than 3 seconds, the game is one. Just go up to her and negotiate the price. It will be between $30-50 for ST. Most will not be more than a 6 out of 10..
KY,
No need to be paranoid but just be careful that many of the street girls are LBs. It's very easy to pick them when face to face.OK.
Any more tips for finding gems in LAC or on the street / mall?
Thanks.
Albert9989
04-23-19, 13:41
Hi there,
Thanks for the replies to my previous question.
I have read this forum a bit, I get some information but some other things are not clear to me.
I have many questions, don't worry, feel free to comment on only some aspects of my post.
.............. I also prefer girls who are friendly and with a good attitude. To me, their attitude is probably more important than their face.
First of all, and most importantly, if any of you know cute girls with good attitude, and is willing to share the digit, please PM me.
If there is one nice girl, I am more than happy to stick to her alone for my whole trip. I enjoy the GFE more than the sex itself.
........................
3. I saw some of you used DIA, I installed it and had a look. Most girls seem to be there to look for serious relationship.
So, it will probably take more time to find someone on DIA?
What other online app / websites I should use? Does wechat work there or it is a waste of time.
...............My comment, as you like GFE and attitude, may be DIA could be a good way. Personaly I don't have a long exp in Manila, only once, in P. Burgos, but I didn't enter any bars or clubs, I visited Greenblet also and didn't pick any girl there even if there were many ready to go.
In fact my suprise was to see that DIA contacts worked very well, all nights I had someone with me, all from DIA, some from old contacts long before coming there, one being a contact done in the afternoon and I spend the night with her, all very good exp, very GFE, no money asked, even if I gave 2 k for each night spent, and they were surprised, so I told them its only gift for you, by what you want with that. So they accepted.
If you make contacts before travelling just say Hello, to those you like, based on description or pics. All want long term relation, but many are ok for a short term at the end.
Just tell the truth, tell them are not looking for long term, give a good reason for that, or no reason, but be honest. Say you look to share your time and your visit there with someone. Some will say not interested, many will say ok. Then be crystal clear that when you say share, it will be also the bed. Sometimes I had some girls thinking they will act only as a tourist guide.
Don't talk about sex or money on DIA, ask for messenger or whatsapp ASAP, then you can talk about anything there.
If they ask for money first, just say no, and forget them. Only money when on the ground, not from abroad.
And if you use DIA on the ground, just send Hi, I am in Manila today, to all girls you like, and then same process, and luckily you can find good gems. Not many but its good to try.
There could be scams, and if any doubts just block them or stop chatting.
LB's also can be hiding, so be careful.
That was my exp and it works very fine.
You do not have to pay it in cash. It is already in the ticket.OK, thanks. My pesos are down to a pittance.
I have many questions, don't worry, feel free to comment on only some aspects of my post.KY,
I would add ro EDs advice as follows: 1) Yes, LA Cafe is open 24/7 and I have had some good finds there even early (6 AM). Some go there for a quickie before they start their real job. 2) Burgos is more expensive but better selection. EDSA, too. Greenbelt is a mall in Makati famous for pick up bar at night but I have never been there to Havana. G Point is a restaurant / bar with occasionally a good find at night. 3) I use Filipina Cupid but it is for pay unlike DIA. 4) Robinson Mall in Malate. Never saw anything I wanted there except store clerks who are available if you have some game and a phone. Manila is not particularly dangerous but stay sober at night, keep money in front pocket and only what you need. Wear condoms. Non-pros are everywhere. Four days is not much time. Next time plan a trip to Angeles which has everything in a small area / rows of P4P bars much larger and cheaper than Burgos. Good luck.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I guess like Tinder, DIA works better for people who know how to play the game or are good-looking.
I will for sure give it a try and maybe hit LA cafe and Burgos on top of that.
My comment, as you like GFE and attitude, may be DIA could be a good way. Personaly I don't have a long exp in Manila, only once, in P. Burgos, but I didn't enter any bars or clubs, I visited Greenblet also and didn't pick any girl there even if there were many ready to go.
In fact my suprise was to see that DIA contacts worked very well, all nights I had someone with me, all from DIA, some from old contacts long before coming there, one being a contact done in the afternoon and I spend the night with her, all very good exp, very GFE, no money asked, even if I gave 2 k for each night spent, and they were surprised, so I told them its only gift for you, by what you want with that. So they accepted.
If you make contacts before travelling just say Hello, to those you like, based on description or pics. All want long term relation, but many are ok for a short term at the end.
Any tips on how to be successful on DIA?
I am on DIA for 2 days now, with a real photo and some lame description. No luck so far.
Appreciate it if you can share your story.
Do you know if I pick up someone from Burgos or the malls, do we then take a taxi to go to my place? Or they usually have some site on the spot.
I think in LA cafe, you can do either take out or incall, right?
KY,
I would add ro EDs advice as follows: 1) Yes, LA Cafe is open 24/7 and I have had some good finds there even early (6 AM). Some go there for a quickie before they start their real job. 2) Burgos is more expensive but better selection. EDSA, too. Greenbelt is a mall in Makati famous for pick up bar at night but I have never been there to Havana. G Point is a restaurant / bar with occasionally a good find at night. 3) I use Filipina Cupid but it is for pay unlike DIA. 4) Robinson Mall in Malate. Never saw anything I wanted there except store clerks who are available if you have some game and a phone. Manila is not particularly dangerous but stay sober at night, keep money in front pocket and only what you need. Wear condoms. Non-pros are everywhere. Four days is not much time. Next time plan a trip to Angeles which has everything in a small area / rows of P4P bars much larger and cheaper than Burgos. Good luck.
Any tips on how to be successful on DIA?
I am on DIA for 2 days now, with a real photo and some lame description. No luck so far.
Appreciate it if you can share your story.My modus operandi is as follows.
1. Hi, Hello,.
2. If they reply " coming to Philippine, are you interested in being with me ".
3. If they say yes, " what's your number ".
4. If they send number, " will call, do you have Skype or viber or any messaging service ".
5. If they do not I drop them because I like to chat cam to cam and discuss, if they do add them and start cam to cam chat and discuss sex, money compensation, how many days etc. I clearly state no money will be sent before meeting.
One word of warning. I have had no shows, dropped out sight, promise but no promises etc in spite of detailed discussions before. Do not take it serious.
What I do is line up as many girls as possible before visit even if I have one or two confirmed and agreed girls. I will have many phone numbers as back up.
I have no patience and will not wait for any girl to decide time and place. If they give the runaround I drop them. I will also have repeats from previous trips as back up.
I do not know why you have not gotten any interest from the girls. I get few likes, few Hi, etc every day. I go for mainly pretty girls and occasional ugly ones. Sometimes ugly ones give best sex.
Good luck!
Engine Driver
04-24-19, 04:37
Do you know if I pick up someone from Burgos or the malls, do we then take a taxi to go to my place? Or they usually have some site on the spot.
I think in LA cafe, you can do either take out or incall, right?Prostitution is illegal in the Philippines so there is no incall at LA Cafe. It's a sports bar, not a brothel. The $200 for a girl at a Burgos gogo bar is for long time. How much does long time cost in Europe? More than $200 I bet. It includes three separate parts. The lady drink, the bar fine and the girls fee. The girl does not get the full $200.
Yes, you normally get a girl and take a taxi / grab or walk to your hotel.
Burgos Street and LA Cafe are not close to each other. You cannot simply go from one to another in one night. The traffic is really bad. Focus on one area per night.
If you walk around Robison Mall, you will definitely find some hookers for $20 ST. They will usually be ugly and may be even a bit unclean. A lot of homeless people wash themselves in the toilets as soon as the mall opens
My modus operandi is as follows.
2. If they reply " coming to Philippine, are you interested in being with me ".
One word of warning. I have had no shows, dropped out sight, promise but no promises etc in spite of detailed discussions before. Do not take it serious.
What I do is line up as many girls as possible before visit even if I have one or two confirmed and agreed girls. I will have many phone numbers as back up.
If you replace #2 with "I am near Glorietta, whould you like to catch up this afternoon" your no shows and false promises will plummet.
I've totally given up on "let's meet next month. " I'm Here Now and would like to meet Today is much much more reliable.
Enjoy. G.
Prostitution is illegal in the Philippines so there is no incall at LA Cafe. It's a sports bar, not a brothel. The $200 for a girl at a Burgos gogo bar is for long time. How much does long time cost in Europe? More than $200 I bet. It includes three separate parts. The lady drink, the bar fine and the girls fee. The girl does not get the full $200.
Yes, you normally get a girl and take a taxi / grab or walk to your hotel.
Burgos Street and LA Cafe are not close to each other. You cannot simply go from one to another in one night. The traffic is really bad. Focus on one area per night.
If you walk around Robison Mall, you will definitely find some hookers for $20 ST. They will usually be ugly and may be even a bit unclean. A lot of homeless people wash themselves in the toilets as soon as the mall opensI'd agree. $200 includes a good night out and a full night's company. Burgos is not cheap so it's not the place to seek a cut price quicky on a dirty matress somewhere. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, just that Burgos bars are not the place to look for it.
Of course freelancers on the street are waaaaay cheaper.
Do you know if I pick up someone from Burgos or the malls, do we then take a taxi to go to my place? Or they usually have some site on the spot.
I think in LA cafe, you can do either take out or incall, right?I think there is a short-time hotel near LAC but I don't know the name or where it is. I just stay at Rothman Hotel, a five to seven minute walk from LAC but be careful late at night. I usually pick my partner for the night by 10 PM.
I'd agree. $200 includes a good night out and a full night's company. Burgos is not cheap so it's not the place to seek a cut price quicky on a dirty matress somewhere. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that, just that Burgos bars are not the place to look for it.
Of course freelancers on the street are waaaaay cheaper.Just beware that a lot of girls won't do Long Time. Some will say they will (so you will pay the bar fine), but then cop-out with a reason to cut it short.
Thanks for the reply. What you did makes a lot of sense.
I wonder how many of the picture on DIA are real (hiding a fat body / photoshopped / different girl altogether!
My modus operandi is as follows.
1. Hi, Hello,.
2. If they reply " coming to Philippine, are you interested in being with me ".
3. If they say yes, " what's your number ".
4. If they send number, " will call, do you have Skype or viber or any messaging service ".
5. If they do not I drop them because I like to chat cam to cam and discuss, if they do add them and start cam to cam chat and discuss sex, money compensation, how many days etc. I clearly state no money will be sent before meeting.
One word of warning. I have had no shows, dropped out sight, promise but no promises etc in spite of detailed discussions before. Do not take it serious.
Yes, you are right. 150 euro for 1 hour for the expensive one in EU. What does long time means in Manila or AC 3 hours? Overnight?
Thanks for the tips!
Prostitution is illegal in the Philippines so there is no incall at LA Cafe. It's a sports bar, not a brothel. The $200 for a girl at a Burgos gogo bar is for long time. How much does long time cost in Europe? More than $200 I bet. It includes three separate parts. The lady drink, the bar fine and the girls fee. The girl does not get the full $200.
Yes, you normally get a girl and take a taxi / grab or walk to your hotel.
Burgos Street and LA Cafe are not close to each other. You cannot simply go from one to another in one night. The traffic is really bad. Focus on one area per night.
If you replace #2 with "I am near Glorietta, whould you like to catch up this afternoon" your no shows and false promises will plummet.
I've totally given up on "let's meet next month. " I'm Here Now and would like to meet Today is much much more reliable.
Enjoy. G.Solid advice. Thanks.
I think there is a short-time hotel near LAC but I don't know the name or where it is. I just stay at Rothman Hotel, a five to seven minute walk from LAC but be careful late at night. I usually pick my partner for the night by 10 PM.There was a ST hotel same side of the street as LA cafe. It was called bird something. Area used to be sketchy but nowadays quite safe except for street urchins begging. I have walked all hours of the night around there alone and with a girl and had no problems. Since they opened a police station close to LA cafe it has become safe. Only bad thing sometimes police get bored and start rounding up single girls on the streets. When this happens it is a funny sight like girls running helter skelter in all directions like running of the bulls in Pamplona. These are mostly mamasan offering girls outside and single girls going into or out of LA cafe.
I think there is a short-time hotel near LAC but I don't know the name or where it is. I just stay at Rothman Hotel, a five to seven minute walk from LAC but be careful late at night. I usually pick my partner for the night by 10 PM.It's called "Brickstone". About 30 m along the street on same side as LAC.
600 php for 2 or 3 hour short-time. The girls know it.
The owner has around 10 of those small, yappy hairy terriers hanging around in the lobby and on the stairs.
The dogs are a bit distracting initially but they don't seem to have the usual dog odor and you can ignore them.
Watch the ceiling height. If you are tall like me you need to do the hunch-back crouch along the passage way.
Have you already been to the "chat rooms & pen pals" thread?
DIA. No naughty talk!
Since you're posting in Manila thread, I'll assume that is your focus. One of my first questions would be, "Where in Manila do you live?" Some might be quite far from the city. The question "Are you from Manila" might help you determine if she is independent, or living with family.
Get a fb or email or skype contact so that you can communicate more explicitly.
I usually meet them at the nearest mall because they will often show up late. It's easier for me to kill time. My fav story was the one I met on a rainy day at the mall. I suggested a coffee or a bite to eat. She said she wanted to change clothes. She was soaked from the knees down. Walked five minutes to my room and she took her jeans off as soon as she got in the door. I offered her a shirt to wear but she declined. Wearing red panties, she casually walked over to the bed and got in. That's were we spent most of the next two days. Great memories.
Any tips on how to be successful on DIA?
I am on DIA for 2 days now, with a real photo and some lame description. No luck so far.
Appreciate it if you can share your story.
Just beware that a lot of girls won't do Long Time. Some will say they will (so you will pay the bar fine), but then cop-out with a reason to cut it short.Are you referring to street freelancers or bar girls? I'd agree that freelancers are pretty much ST only but I've never had issues with the bar fined girls. Not to say it doesn't happen though and it's certainly something I'm very clear on before paying anything.
Cheers. G.
Engine Driver
04-25-19, 11:44
Are you referring to street freelancers or bar girls? I'd agree that freelancers are pretty much ST only but I've never had issues with the bar fined girls. Not to say it doesn't happen though and it's certainly something I'm very clear on before paying anything.
Cheers. G.LT is never guaranteed in Angeles City and as the fee is paid upfront, runners are common. With a Burgos bar girl, the fee is paid at the end. If she runs off early, just pay her the ST fee. No big risk there. I had one Burgos girl that wanted to renege on the deal in the room. As she hadn't taken her panties down yet, I dragged her back to Bottoms and swapped her for a more compliant girl. Took a bit of effort with the mamasan, but it can be done.
Mr Enternational
04-25-19, 16:14
I think there is a short-time hotel near LAC but I don't know the name or where it is.The Brickstone is right next door to LA Cafe. I reported on it last year and attached the business card. The room I had was an apartment with bedroom, living room, kitchen, bathroom. It was actually pretty decent. I think I had to pay 700 or 800 for ST and for 1 day the cost was probably 1000 or 1200 or so.
Are you referring to street freelancers or bar girls? I'd agree that freelancers are pretty much ST only but I've never had issues with the bar fined girls. Not to say it doesn't happen though and it's certainly something I'm very clear on before paying anything.
Cheers. G.I've never engaged a free lancer.
On my last trip I asked an EDSA girl if she'd stay overnight. I had already short timed her a few nights earlier so she knew what she was in for. Once we got to the room she started talking about her sister's birthday and how she'the like to go back and party with her. So we did ST. But she mis-represented her LT intentions so that I'd taker her instead of another girl willing to entertain my LT notions.
From reading the threads, I'm not the first that this has happened to, although it is more prevalent in AC.
Just stopped by EDSA and it seems Cotton Club is closed. Is that correct?
Mr Enternational
04-25-19, 19:50
Once we got to the room she started talking about her sister's birthday and how she'the like to go back and party with her. So we did ST.You fell for that one? As if these broads are not together in the damn bar every night drinking.
I've never engaged a free lancer.
On my last trip I asked an EDSA girl if she'd stay overnight. I had already short timed her a few nights earlier so she knew what she was in for. Once we got to the room she started talking about her sister's birthday and how she'the like to go back and party with her. So we did ST. But she mis-represented her LT intentions so that I'd taker her instead of another girl willing to entertain my LT notions.
From reading the threads, I'm not the first that this has happened to, although it is more prevalent in AC.I'd agree with Mr E.
If she knew the expectations, I would have just said that you got her for a morning romp so come back after her sister's party because payment will be in the morning.
It's not a regular occurrence but I have done it before. She will either decide that sis's birthday is not that important or go for an hour and come back. Obviously once cash is handed over, she's never to be seen again.
Such a great story about the girl in a rainy day!
Altho I will land in Manila, I am going straight to AC now. I changed my plan after getting some great advice here in ISG.
I am still doing DIA in AC. It may be a waste of time to do DIA in AC, but it is fun and I won't spend all my time on it.
After a day on DIA and around 60 messages, 9 girls replies and got 4 phone numbers from them.
These 4 are probably pro. They went straight to the point and gave me the phone number.
I will meet them and see if they match the photo or not.
I am also looking for semi-pro (only doing it occasionally for quick money, not full time girl), see if I am lucky or not.
Have you already been to the "chat rooms & pen pals" thread?
DIA. No naughty talk!
Since you're posting in Manila thread, I'll assume that is your focus. One of my first questions would be, "Where in Manila do you live?" Some might be quite far from the city. The question "Are you from Manila" might help you determine if she is independent, or living with family.
Get a fb or email or skype contact so that you can communicate more explicitly.
I usually meet them at the nearest mall because they will often show up late. It's easier for me to kill time. My fav story was the one I met on a rainy day at the mall. I suggested a coffee or a bite to eat. She said she wanted to change clothes. She was soaked from the knees down. Walked five minutes to my room and she took her jeans off as soon as she got in the door. I offered her a shirt to wear but she declined. Wearing red panties, she casually walked over to the bed and got in. That's were we spent most of the next two days. Great memories.
MadisonGuy
04-26-19, 02:39
Thought I'the give it one more try more specific area. Anyone know of any massage parlors near LA Cafe? Non legit. Thanks.
I am still doing DIA in AC. It may be a waste of time to do DIA in AC, but it is fun and I won't spend all my time on it.Online is definitely not a waste of time in AC, nor anywhere in PI for that matter. Expect many more hits when you're actually in town.
Enjoy. G.
Just stopped by EDSA and it seems Cotton Club is closed. Is that correct?You should know Doc. You were there on the ground in-person.
I'm wondering why you are asking?
FYI, as reported in various places on ISG, the answer is "yes".
I'd agree with Mr E.
If she knew the expectations, I would have just said that you got her for a morning romp so come back after her sister's party because payment will be in the morning.
It's not a regular occurrence but I have done it before. She will either decide that sis's birthday is not that important or go for an hour and come back. Obviously once cash is handed over, she's never to be seen again.I didn't "fall for that". If the girl doesn't want to stay, then I don't want her to stay either. As far as returning, I'm not interested in being awoken in the early morning by texts, reception, etc. She was EDSA and the hotel was in Makati. I'm definitely not going to give her cab fare to return. Then I would have "fallen for that". I had fun with her and she got no more than what she earned. But I will give her a pass over if I return.
LoveEastAsia
04-26-19, 07:39
Hello,
I am in Manila.
I am looking for a bar in Manila to drink to play pool with people (customers, waitress, waiter like in Pattaya, BKK) and girls available.
Not la cafe in Ermita that I know well.
Thank you for your advice.
I didn't "fall for that". If the girl doesn't want to stay, then I don't want her to stay either. As far as returning, I'm not interested in being awoken in the early morning by texts, reception, etc. She was EDSA and the hotel was in Makati. I'm definitely not going to give her cab fare to return. Then I would have "fallen for that". I had fun with her and she got no more than what she earned. But I will give her a pass over if I return.If everyone is happy then no harm = no foul.
Many negotiate LT because it's something they specifically want. Eg I like to get rid of morning wood whereas a night time romp isn't that important to me. If that was the case my earlier comments would apply.
Good to hear you are having a good time.
Enjoy. G.
I'd agree with Mr E.
If she knew the expectations, I would have just said that you got her for a morning romp so come back after her sister's party because payment will be in the morning.
It's not a regular occurrence but I have done it before. She will either decide that sis's birthday is not that important or go for an hour and come back. Obviously once cash is handed over, she's never to be seen again.Reminds me of a girl I barfined from one of the EDSA bars. Very pretty, tall, great body with big boobs. She was freelancing as hostess not one of the dancing girls. She said she comes there only when I guess she wants money. She said she is a GF of famous doctor on the-side who is married. I guess he supports her and when he is with his family she comes out to play. Initially she said she does not go out with anybody but later she agreed for ST and she needs to be home by 2 am because that is the time doctor calls her. After two rounds of heavy sex (obviously doctor is not good in satisfying her) she took a shower got dressed went out. After 5 minutes knock on the door and she is back. On enquiring she said she decided to stay the night. In fact we had three glorious days together. Unfortunately when I went back after 3 months she was nowhere to be found. Even the mamasan did not know where she is.
Some girls decide to stay the whole night while others are looking to get out ASAP.
Reminds me of a girl I barfined from one of the EDSA bars. Very pretty, tall, great body with big boobs. She was freelancing as hostess not one of the dancing girls. She said she comes there only when I guess she wants money. She said she is a GF of famous doctor on the-side who is married. I guess he supports her and when he is with his family she comes out to play. Initially she said she does not go out with anybody but later she agreed for ST and she needs to be home by 2 am because that is the time doctor calls her. After two rounds of heavy sex (obviously doctor is not good in satisfying her) she took a shower got dressed went out. After 5 minutes knock on the door and she is back. On enquiring she said she decided to stay the night. In fact we had three glorious days together. Unfortunately when I went back after 3 months she was nowhere to be found. Even the mamasan did not know where she is.
Some girls decide to stay the whole night while others are looking to get out ASAP.Girls truly are like a box of chocolates. You COT a cherry filling in yours.
I don't particularly want them to stay the night as my visit is so short that I never recover from jet lag. But I wanted to take my time playing with that girl and enjoying her. I got my fill and her excuse to leave was my excuse not to pay her LT. Like Goffering said, it still was win-win.
I guess I missed the messages of Cotton Club closing and I just wanted to make sure that what they told me at EDSA was true (last time I was in Manila, I didn't get a chance to go to EDSA).
You should know Doc. You were there on the ground in-person.
I'm wondering why you are asking?
FYI, as reported in various places on ISG, the answer is "yes".
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She said she is a GF of famous doctor on the-side who is married. I guess he supports her and when he is with his family she comes out to play. I love the "famous doctor" quote Samm. Obviously they are her words to you and repeated verbatim by you.
There aren't any "famous doctors" in Philippines, as in Nobel prizes or specialists who have people from all over the world flocking to Manila for their services. The really competent ones migrate to the lands of milk and honey for their post-graduate successes.
I guess she means he is well-known or popular or something. Just another not-so-subtle way to boost her own importance.
Blanquiceleste
04-26-19, 14:48
I love the "famous doctor" quote Samm. Obviously they are her words to you and repeated verbatim by you.
There aren't any "famous doctors" in Philippines, as in Nobel prizes or specialists who have people from all over the world flocking to Manila for their services. The really competent ones migrate to the lands of milk and honey for their post-graduate successes.
I guess she means he is well-known or popular or something. Just another not-so-subtle way to boost her own importance.Sounds like the perv barangay gynac who samples patients on the side. LOL.
WestCoast1
04-26-19, 14:54
Sounds like the perv barangay gynac who samples patients on the side. LOL.For years I've been telling the ladies that I am a Gynecologist. When they ask me where my office is located, I tell them that I can come to them. Smile.
Blanquiceleste
04-26-19, 14:56
For years I've been telling the ladies that I am a Gynecologist. When they ask me where my office is located, I tell them that I can come to them. Smile.That is truly a genius move. Got to try this doc thing next time. Gosh, I won't be there before June!
WestCoast1
04-26-19, 18:26
That is truly a genius move. Got to try this doc thing next time. Gosh, I won't be there before June!Hotter than Hades there right now. Wait until June when the weather cools off some. Stay home for now. Not that I'm thinking it would mean more ladies for me. No. Smile!
So I was going to go to the Cotton Club, but found out it was closed. The people at the entrance pushed me into the Samba Club, but eventually I peeked in to all the clubs on the first floor. It seemed to be a quiet night at almost 11 and most of the bars had very bored-looking girls on stage. Several of the bars had girls in bikinis, Samba was most unique with long gowns.
I finally settled on a bar with the girls in bikinis, Bullets and Arrows, so I could see what I was getting. Though in retrospect, maybe the girls in Samba looked a little prettier. It was hard to tell and everyone was clustering around the few customers that would come in from time to time. I picked a very cute young girl, I think Marika. My drink was around 190 and the girl's drink was 380. The long and short of it was bar fine 2500 and ST was 3000 and LT was 5000.
Since I had to work early the next morning, I just wanted to get everything over with, I paid the manager 6000 for everything and went to my hotel. The girl was perfectly ok, nothing so write home about, but I just needed a quickie to help me go to sleep.
And I had several more days for exploring.
Went to Cafe Havana on Friday night with my wingman, but because he got in so late, it was past 11. All the good talent was gone, or things have changed since the last time I was there. The prettiest girl there was one of the hostesses and of course there was little chance we were going to be successful with her and in any case, there was only one of her. So we decided to just go to a legit club and went to the Palace complex, specifically XYLO. This is a high end dance club and really on par with top clubs all over the world. The complex is really 5 separate clubs joined in the middle with an open area swimming pool, food stall, bar area. Similar to Las Vegas swimming pool scene. Lots of beautiful girls everywhere, but almost all 'civilians'. We had a lot of fun with some girls, but didn't try to push things and definitely didn't want to insult anyone by offering money, so we just left with phone numbers.
Doc.
I was in Manila in February of this year. I also went into the SAMBA on the first floor. Saw girls standing on the stairwell to the upstairs club, can't remember the name of it. I reluctantly climbed the stairs, found a huge layout with billiard tables in the back. Plenty of room. Then, there was the old mamasan from COTTON CLUB. She recognized me right away and said "Cotton Club open maybe in June or November downstairs where Samba is now. " When I go back to MNL this August, will update if nobody has finalized the location of CClub.
old mamasan from COTTON CLUB. She recognized me right away and said "Cotton Club open maybe in June or November downstairs where Samba is now. " In other words, she had no idea.
What sort of an answer is "maybe in June or November"?
As someone else pointed out, how can you renovate a space that already has a bar (Samba) operating?
The long and short of it was bar fine 2500 and ST was 3000 and LT was 5000.
Since I had to work early the next morning, I just wanted to get everything over with, I paid the manager 6000 for everything and went to my hotel.
EDSA and Burgos St bars are different than AC in that you only pay the bar the bar fine (php2500). You pay the remainder to the girl, preferably after the act. I'm glad you enjoyed yourself, but some girls may pull a runner if they have already been payed.
Hello,
I am in Manila.
I am looking for a bar in Manila to drink to play pool with people (customers, waitress, waiter like in Pattaya, BKK) and girls available.
Not la cafe in Ermita that I know well.
Thank you for your advice.Try "Dusk till dawn" - only 50 meter from LA Cafe.
Any one up to hanging out and catching few drinks this week.
Cheers.
Engine Driver
04-28-19, 09:52
Thought I'the give it one more try more specific area. Anyone know of any massage parlors near LA Cafe? Non legit. Thanks.Yes, Abacca Massage, Mabini Street, Malate. Walking distance from LA Cafe.
Hey guy,
New here. Couple of questions.
Is there a guide on how to find a level bar girl talent? Reading some posts and seems a couple hundred should.
Be good for overnight. Escort or web searches seem to turn up 1000 usd postings. J.
Kinda lost on where to turn. Any pointers to what you should be reading? Hoping to have at least 1 or 2 day alone with out my traveling companions.
Mr Enternational
04-28-19, 18:00
Is there a guide on how to find a level bar girl talent?Go to Air Force One.
Wicked Roger
04-29-19, 08:05
Go to Air Force One.Stykler did say it but you can PM me as we can't give details like contacts on the forum. So PM me.
Look forward to the PM.
Transporter
04-29-19, 10:54
Hey guy,
New here. Couple of questions.
Is there a guide on how to find a level bar girl talent? Reading some posts and seems a couple hundred should.
Be good for overnight. Escort or web searches seem to turn up 1000 usd postings. J.
Kinda lost on where to turn. Any pointers to what you should be reading? Hoping to have at least 1 or 2 day alone with out my traveling companions.A class; yes there is but that depends on your definition. The ones that I did that I considered Class A were playboyPH girls, MaximPH girls, Mocha girls, and some car show girls (some of the car show models, I wouldn't rate Class A, but still hot).
As far as A level bar girl talent, I really don't know. When I walk in a bar hunting, I take the best (my opinion) in the bar when I leave, is she A Level, I don't know, all I know is that she is the best I seen that night.
A class; yes there is but that depends on your definition. The ones that I did that I considered Class A were playboyPH girls, MaximPH girls, Mocha girls, and some car show girls (some of the car show models, I wouldn't rate Class A, but still hot).
Where / how did you meet these? I'll go out on a limb and say top quality girls are far more likely to be met through introductions and networking than barhopping around Burgos.
Enjoy. G.
Hey guy,
New here. Couple of questions.
Is there a guide on how to find a level bar girl talent? Reading some posts and seems a couple hundred should.
Be good for overnight. Escort or web searches seem to turn up 1000 usd postings. J.
Kinda lost on where to turn. Any pointers to what you should be reading? Hoping to have at least 1 or 2 day alone with out my traveling companions.There are plenty of very beautiful girls in Manila. They do not work in bars. Most often they work for escort agencies, high end Karaoke places catering to high end businessmen.
If you want them it will cost you serious money.
Looks does not mean service is good. Just a arm candy if you are into it.
I'm working with a Korean guy and he has a contact who recommended this place. It turns out about half the clients are Koreans and half Chinese and occasionally other foreigners or Pinoy. The contact's manager said the best time to come is between 8 and 9, so unfortunately we were late at 10:30. Still the lineup that she brought to us was almost 20 and the best ones maybe 8. I picked a cute little girl named Shine. Very smiley, light skinned, dark black hair and slightly deeper voice.
We stayed in the couch joking around while watching the different dancers. Some of whom had really great skills and some of whom had really awesome bodies. There was even a group of 4 guys and 4 girls dancing. But not very well. The entire damage for some drinks and fruit platter for a couple hours was 4800. I also got a great massage by some guy while sitting there.
I had to get up early in the morning, so we looked into the room fees and it ended up being 5000, which was supposedly a discount because of our contact. After a little while, finally went upstairs and really had a good time with this petite cute girl who was always smiley and funny. Just wanted to have fun.
Part 1 - 5 star rating.
Landed at NAIA a bit after midnight, so of course all my contacts were zzzz. First off the plane and first to immigration, no wait whatsoever. Carry-on luggage only. Grabbed a taxi from departures level. Traffic of course was light. Hotel is in Sampaloc (far). I ask the driver if he knows of any casas with girls en route. He gets on the 2-way and get directions from HQ to an unmarked place in Palanan on Casino Street. About 15 girls are lying around. Chose a cute one, paid the guy 3000 in the back room and he asked for a tip "for the boys". Ok, here's an extra 100 to shut up. Off we go with slim Julia, 24 from Mindanao, 1 kid 4 years old. Total taxi fare was 350 NAIA to Sampaloc. Gave him (as agreed) +100 for his troubles. Quick shower and was getting a BJ within an hour of landing.
Part 2 - 3 star rating.
Julia insists on using a rubber for the main course. Nothing I could do to change her mind. I got all kinds of stories from her. The mood was quickly going south. So instead of ruining it altogether, I wanted to shoot my load and get to sleep. Got to get that first notch of the trip in! She asks for a tip and she insists that she doesn't get any of the 3000 I gave to the guy. I tell her this is not my first rodeo so nice try. I also added that if she went bareback with me I would tip her heavily (I wouldn't). She insists that a taxi is 500. I remind her that I just came from NAIA for 350. Gave her 400 for a taxi ride home. You got to watch these girls (all filipino's really) because they are all so full of s**t!
Welcome to the Phils!
VictorHugo99
05-03-19, 14:07
Bravo F2 that you are thinking with all your heads.
Just wondering, I trust that you are completely trusting the taxis? Were they yellow top or white ones?
Victor.
Part 1 - 5 star rating.
Landed at NAIA a bit after midnight, so of course all my contacts were zzzz. First off the plane and first to immigration, no wait whatsoever. Carry-on luggage only. Grabbed a taxi from departures level. Traffic of course was light. Hotel is in Sampaloc (far). I ask the driver if he knows of any casas with girls en route. He gets on the 2-way and get directions from HQ to an unmarked place in Palanan on Casino Street. About 15 girls are lying around. Chose a cute one, paid the guy 3000 in the back room and he asked for a tip "for the boys". Ok, here's an extra 100 to shut up. Off we go with slim Julia, 24 from Mindanao, 1 kid 4 years old. Total taxi fare was 350 NAIA to Sampaloc. Gave him (as agreed) +100 for his troubles. Quick shower and was getting a BJ within an hour of landing.
Part 2 - 3 star rating.
Mr Enternational
05-03-19, 16:06
I had to get up early in the morning, so we looked into the room fees and it ended up being 5000, which was supposedly a discount because of our contact. I have said before that whenever a contact is involved shit is going to cost you more. My wingman was dating a chick whose dad drives a taxi. He tried to charge my boy 3500 pesos from AC to Manila. Work out your own deal and don't fall for you are getting a lower one because of a contact.
Wicked Roger
05-03-19, 22:48
Julia insists on using a rubber for the main course.
I also added that if she went bareback with me I would tip her heavily (I wouldn't). She insists that a taxi is 500. I remind her that I just came from NAIA for 350. Gave her 400 for a taxi ride home. You got to watch these girls (all filipino's really) because they are all so full of s**t!
Welcome to the Phils!What I can never understand is people spend lots of dollars (thousand or more at times) to reach the Philippines then boast about a $2 difference in giving the girl a taxi fare. And if you promise a big tip for bareback then keep it IMHO as am sure you meant 500 pesos (IE $10). Don't boast you said it to get it and then won't give the tip.
Mentality of some always surprise me as I am happy to give 500 pesos for taxi as it is a small percentage of what I could have spent elsewhere in the world for the same for the same outcome.
Gents,
Looking fwd to my first trip to Manila soon, and having read lots of the forum, I've not seen much reference to ladies who love to offer rimming. Specifically as part of a massage session. If anyone can suggest a lady or establishment that would suit my needs, please PM.
Thanks in advance.
JaR.
What I can never understand is people spend lots of dollars (thousand or more at times) to reach the Philippines then boast about a $2 difference in giving the girl a taxi fare. Me too! Same with these people who nickle and dime. They spend around US $2000 traveling to the other side of the world, fork out for 4 or 5 star hotels for a week or so, then spend precious time quibbling with an Asian hooker over $20. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
What I can never understand is people spend lots of dollars (thousand or more at times) to reach the Philippines then boast about a $2 difference in giving the girl a taxi fare. And if you promise a big tip for bareback then keep it IMHO as am sure you meant 500 pesos (IE $10). Don't boast you said it to get it and then won't give the tip.
Mentality of some always surprise me as I am happy to give 500 pesos for taxi as it is a small percentage of what I could have spent elsewhere in the world for the same for the same outcome.
Me too! Same with these people who nickle and dime. They spend around US $2000 traveling to the other side of the world, fork out for 4 or 5 star hotels for a week or so, then spend precious time quibbling with an Asian hooker over $20. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.Roger et al.
I think most guys are happy to tip generously, even too generously, for good service. Likewise, most refuse to pay more when an obvious scam is on or the girl is just angling for an unearned top up.
I know I've certainly done both.
Enjoy. G.
Roger et al.
I think most guys are happy to tip generously, even too generously, for good service. Likewise, most refuse to pay more when an obvious scam is on or the girl is just angling for an unearned top up.
I know I've certainly done both.
Enjoy. G.I'm with you on that. I like to think I am generous but I hate being ripped off. I like to be in control.
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