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KelantanKing
03-06-06, 05:16
Hai all,
I will be in Manila at the end of April. Thinking of staying at Mabini Apt. Would brothers please give some tips on things to do and review about Mabini?
Thanking in advance. Bye
Captain America
03-07-06, 09:58
Went there the other night because LA Cafe was so full one could not even walk around, and it was very dead. Even the girls that were there hung out in groups and didn't seem interested at all. As luck would have it though, a girl I knew from a previous visit to LAC introduced me to a very attractive "student next door" type with a killer figure. Glasses, pulled back hair made her look like she just cut class to come in for a drink. Other than that, though, LA Cafe is still the better choice. On a side-note, I've been upstairs every time I went and have to say I'm not impressed with what's supposed to be a higher level of talent, so I will just stick to the downstairs.
Hai all,
I will be in Manila at the end of April. Thinking of staying at Mabini Apt. Would brothers please give some tips on things to do and review about Mabini?
Thanking in advance. Bye
RTFF Newbie
Hai all,
I will be in Manila at the end of April. Thinking of staying at Mabini Apt. Would brothers please give some tips on things to do and review about Mabini?
Thanking in advance. ByeIf you read the forum, you get most of the infos provided. However you are a newbie. Don't worry by the time you get to the taxi and hotel you will be bombarded with infor via taxi cab drivers or hotel employees. Mabini is one big area for nite life. Ermita is the best so far. So be patient you'll see the places and learn the tricks of the trade.
Shukran.
Hai all,
I will be in Manila at the end of April. Thinking of staying at Mabini Apt. Would brothers please give some tips on things to do and review about Mabini?
Thanking in advance. ByePop over to LA Cafe, a good place to start on your first trip to PI, but do take your time, no need be in a hurry, enjoy the sights (girls) some of them are good fun to have a talk and a laugh with, buy them a drink or two (drinks are cheap). Make the selection in your own time - you got all night!
Have fun
G-Point is fun after 9:30 when the band starts up. It is smaller and less crowded - still crowded but not objectionably so. Get a table next to the dance floor where the girls show off. Y ou iwll have fun flirting with them and should always find one to take back to the hotel.
As a newbie to this site, I am coming in April for a week and have read so many reports from the last year that my mind is a whirl with thoughts of the EDSA EC, Burgos Street, LA Cafe, and Robinsons Mall that any help as to what direction to take as I want to experience it all in the six day feast.
Thanks
Sir Charles
03-12-06, 02:44
I will be in The Philippines in about a week. I am looking for a spot for a side trip. I have been to Bohol, parts of Cebu (Mactan, Malapascua) and would like to try a new destination.
I am interested in a few locations:
- Bantayan Island
- Puerta Galera
- Boracay
I have my babe already. I am looking for a laid-back, 3-day getaway. If you have been to the 3 locations above, please share your thoughts on them! Pros/cons, hotels restaurants, things to do, etc.
KelantanKing
03-12-06, 06:11
Thank you brothers, I'm new in Manila but have been to Thailand (Hadyai, Danuk, Bentong and Sg Golok in Indonesia Bintang, Balai and Medan). If you need any advice regarding South Thailand please seek me
Bye.
GoodEnough
03-12-06, 07:22
G-Point is fun after 9:30 when the band starts up. It is smaller and less crowded - still crowded but not objectionably so. Get a table next to the dance floor where the girls show off. Y ou iwll have fun flirting with them and should always find one to take back to the hotel.
Based largely on recommendations from this board, I've now been twice to the G-Point, only to be disappointed each time. True, it's got a nice atmosphere and is less crowded and less raunchy than LA, but I've never seen anyone there who is even close to tempting. Maybe I've just been unlucky and/or too impatient, but I cannot see what all the fuss is about.
:D
GE
Joel Goodsen
03-12-06, 22:39
LOCATION PLEASE
Bill, please find link below. G-point has it's own website.
http://www.gpointmanila.com/location.html
Cheers,
Joel
Cebu Local
03-13-06, 00:13
I will be in The Philippines in about a week. I am looking for a spot for a side trip. I have been to Bohol, parts of Cebu (Mactan, Malapascua) and would like to try a new destination.
I am interested in a few locations:
- Bantayan Island
- Puerta Galera
- Boracay
I have my babe already. I am looking for a laid-back, 3-day getaway. If you have been to the 3 locations above, please share your thoughts on them! Pros/cons, hotels restaurants, things to do, etc.Bantayan is the most laidback of the 3 which Boracay was like 15 years ago,Beach is about 7-8,But it is quiet and relaxing,Puerto Galera is the midway between the 2 in terms of nightlife Bars and Restaurants But has the worst beach of the 3,Boracay has the best beach and the best nightlife of the 3,But Its going to filled with Tens of thousands of Koreans,Europeans,Locals Think Bali.Cheers
As a newbie to this site, I am coming in April for a week and have read so many reports from the last year that my mind is a whirl with thoughts of the EDSA EC, Burgos Street, LA Cafe, and Robinsons Mall that any help as to what direction to take as I want to experience it all in the six day feast.
ThanksStrategicly I would suggest go to Burgos St. and LA CAfe. Edsa and Robinsons Mall next. Reason being is in first 2 you will find all the working girls you need. Edsa you can find some amatuers and at Robinsons Mall you can find a lot of non pros. By that time you hit all of the places in one week. You may also do it the other way, by that time you tried from Non pro to Pros before you leave.
Either or a lot of action takes place in Manila you'll never miss it.
Cheers
Sir Charles
03-14-06, 03:35
It seems so hard to get responses from people on this board! Perhaps it is because I rarely post - I merely lurk. I appreciate the info.
Boracay, TENS OF THOUSANDS! Are there that many people there? Yikes!
It seems so hard to get responses from people on this board! Perhaps it is because I rarely post - I merely lurk. I appreciate the info.
Boracay, TENS OF THOUSANDS! Are there that many people there? Yikes!SC,
I have not been to Bantayan Island but I heard its great. By the places you mentioned I have been to PG and Boracay. As Cebu local said Boracay is packed. Puerto Gallera is good because of its location. Its also a tourist spot but close to the city( Manila).
I can suggest other places like Palawan Puerto Princesa for its natural beauty and wild life. Not much tourist and have nice sandy beaches. Another is Ceby itself which has beaches and hotels. I am talking about 5 star quality with casinos. A lot of monger buddies hit those places if you want to stay away from Boracay.
If you want you can also go to Subic Bay in Zambales. About 3 hr ride from Manila ( Traffic permitting). Its close to the city and they have a lot of chicas to see. Downside is since its a former US Naval facility. Tourist or should I say mongers lirks in the area.
Have fun.
I went to a massage parlor today by Quezon Ave. Paid 1000 pesos for the entrance. I had the privilage to look at the window and choice the chica. Minutes later I was taken to a small cubicle and wait for my price.
She comes in and had me undressed. Gave me a decent massage with the common question " Lotion or Powder sir" ? Of course lotion. I told her during the session if she could do extras. She replied of course. She was a Vizayan beauty from Samar and had a killer body. Height was about 4'11 and light skinned beauty. Asked for 2K for full service I said, hell no! We neg. for a half rate of 1k with half half. She started with a bbj and then the rubber went on. We did CG doggie and finished with a mish.
Downside is she has too much make up. What up with that. I can barely kiss them on the cheeks because of so much powder.
Will try another place next time.
Ciao
There are many, many MPs around so I'm sure you won't be at a loss to find others.
Went to a few different clubs over the last few days. Went to Miss Universe again on Saturday night but took 2 girls with me who I thought were better looking than the girls there. For those of you who aren't familiar with the place, it is on FB Harrison at Libertad in Pasay and has over 300 girls working there. The girls are decent looking but there doesn't seem to be as many "stunners" as I recall from last year.
One girl had her solo act where she smoked 3 cigarettes down there and then returned them to the customers' mouths after she was finished. She also placed some ice cubes up there and dropped them back into customers' cups.
Also went to a place down the street called Monriz. This caters to locals but it is a more intimate setting. They have about 25 girls and the stage is right in front of the tables. The girls are about 5 feet from the tables and most are decent looking. Most will dance fully nude and it is cheaper than MU down the street. Didn't go in the VIP rooms but anything goes inside them. Monriz won't let you bring girls in.
I went to another place on Taft, just south of Libertad called Vocano (no "L" in the name) This place is about the same size as MU but has a smaller stage only elevated about a foot and also has some good looking girls. My friend took a girl in a VIP room last year and I think it was about 1500 and had his way with the girl. Prices are similar to Monriz and cheaper than MU.
Yesterday I went to a place in Paranaque called Kalesa grill. A decent sized place with about 30 girls and some will dance completely nude. They also have an "area time" where the girls are fully nude and will go to various customers for lap dances. I brought a girl to this place also so none of them came to me. We had 4 beers, 1 drink for a girl and our entrance fee and the bill came to 750. The LD was 420 which is more than MU and I heard anything goes in the VIP rooms here also.
I passed Starfleet on the way there and saw that they have wet Thai massages. Anyone tried those?
Conciliator
03-16-06, 00:40
If you have a nice place with a maid and cook, and if you have an extra room in your house, apt. or condo that I can lease for several months I would really appreciate it. I want to come to the Phillipines from the states for a nice change. I am a bachelor and like that Filipino women are beautiful, plentiful, and aim to please. I am a good sport, low key, no trouble, and financially secure.
Sir Charles
03-17-06, 01:05
I appreciate the information about Boracay - looks like a no go. Not a big crowd guy. Sounds like Bantayan Island or Palawan is the move. Thanks!
Adam Jacob
03-19-06, 08:30
Borocay wasn't too bad.
You just had to take time to choose the chicas.
And its more expensive than Makati, Manila.
Its probably a good idea to pickup an attractive girl and then take her to Borocay.
If its constant action that you after and its Angeles City that you need to go to.
for a nice hotel and good looking chicas.
Skyline health studios.
Level 8 grand boulevard hotel.
Adam Jacob
03-19-06, 10:07
Borocay is an excellent place.
Everything is more expensive compared to Angeles City, Makati.
If you can find a girlfriend from makati & manila on your visit.
Then take the holiday to Borocay.
LoveAsianWhores
03-22-06, 18:47
Finally made it to gpoint. Small frelancer bar, nothing special. The nice thing is that there are now 4 bars in the area with a good selection of freelancers, all within walking distance - LA cafe, Amazonia, Jurassic, and Gpoint. I can remember when LA cafe was the only game in town. However, There are still more women in LA cafe then all of the other bars put together, but it is good to have a selection of bars nonetheless.
Visions has closed. This was one of my favorite bars in Passay, but it out there by itself on Roxas and couldn't find enough customers. It always appeared that were losing money, and they just now gave up. A couple of the mamas went to Pitstop, and the girls went all over.
Cotton club has a couple of really cute new girls, but they are Japanese only. I'll be back when I have some more time to convince them to give an American a try.
I was VERY impressed with the selection at the Firehouse at Midnight, the Saturday night before last . About 60 girls, and about 5 who were hot, new, and just my type. I can't remember a bar having more than 2 or 3 girls who I wanted to barfine, let alone 5. Finally made my choice, and she was great. Of course, I was back a couple of days later at about 9:00, and didn't even find a single girl to my liking. When the firehouse is on, it is ON, but it is difficult to know when that will be. Weekends are defininately better then weekdays at EDSA. It is often better to get there early, before the cute ones are gone, which is why I was so surprised to find such a great selection there at Midnight. I will back there next Saturday at the same time to see if it was just a fluke, or if it is really a key time to go.
I just passed Vocano the other night and wondered about the place. Thanks Sugoi for the update. I will definately check it out.
I also had a great girl from Rascals the other night. 18, petite with a beautiful hard body. She is the March 21 picture on my photo blog www.**********.com/********* . Of course, with a 3,000 bar fine, I don't take girls from Rascals very often, but I decided to make an exception with her.
What are the closest 'girl friendly' hotels near LA Cafe ? I will be there this Friday 31st March, anyone wanna meet up for a drink?
Member #2453
03-25-06, 17:15
I will be on my first trip to Manila for 6 days from 1st April 2006, I have read most of the previous posts and have gathered a lot of inofrmation, I would like to have information on the following
1. I will be staying the Crown Plaza Galeeria (connected to robinsons mall)
is this hotel girl friendly - what are the best options avilable withing walking distance from this hotel.
2. Whats the best place to have a thai style body-to-body oil massage.
3. is it possible to get a rim job in any of the massage parlors or from any of the girls from the bars.
Your help would be hihgly appreciated.
King
Arrived to Manila at 5:00am(direct flight from Canada).Took airport taxi to Hotel.Damage=530PhP(philippines peso).Checked in at the Rothman Inn hotel in Malate(Adriatico and Pedro gil).Damage=1365Php.It is a girly friendly hotel,5 blocks from the LA Cafe.Rooms are ok,but not spectacular.Walked to the LA cafe by 9:00am.Had some beers and looked at the availabilty of girls.Only some 5-6,and a few 7's.Place was empty so I went to check the Amazonia.Place was empty too.Met a cute waitress,and made arrangements to meet after her shift was over(5:00pm).Returned to my hotel to meet with one of my pen-pals,whom I met through Heart of asia.She arrived with her cousin and friend.Wow,what a beautiful girl.Her cousin,and friend were easy on the eye too.We socialized for a little bit,but she had to leave to meet with her aunt,so we made arrangement to meet at a later date.Returned to Amazonia to pick up my waitress.We went shopping at Robinsons,and for some food at the Robinson's food court(on the second floor).I Tried to get her into my hotel room,but had no success.We departed in friendly terms.Maybe next time.End up the evening at the LA cafe.The place was a zoo.There were tons of girls,from beauty queens,to old and ugly(no teeth)ladies.I sat by the bar,which is round in nature,and did not bother to check the second floor.Tons of ladies approached me,including three very pushy agents,who wanted to introduce me to some of their girls.You really don't need them as there are plenty of girls to choose from.One girl informed me that everytime these agents place a girls,they make 100Php of the girl whom they place.A nice lady sat dowm beside me with her girlfriend and we started to talk.She mentioned that both her and her girlfriend could go out with me,and that sometimes they go together to satisfy their costumers.They even do things to each other for that purpose.I declined the offer as I am not into threesomes,and prefer the one-on-one contact.The girls said no problem and her friend just joined another group of girls,At this point,we are really necking at the LA cafe.DFK for hours,while the world around us does not exist.Pretty good GFE.We left the LA cafe and went to the Cowboy Grill.A large place on Mabini street,and Arquizas.,not far away from the LA cafe.We took a Jeepny to get there.I think it was 10php.The CG had a live band.WE had drinks and DKF some more.We went to the hotel,were we had fun.We showered together,and did some heavy DFK while the water was running over our bodies.What a feeling that is.I went down on my knees for some DATY,her knees bending slightly,while her ass was againts the wall.She made some really cute noises,and she tasted so good.Then,it was her turn,to get down on her knees for a BJ.It was ok,but nothing spectacular.We dried up,and went to bed for some TLC.She was pretty good,and curled her toes when she came.I am a feet man and nothing excites me more than a girl's beautiful feet,and curling their toes when they come.In the morning we did it again.I gave her 1500Php for her labor of love.When she departed I took a taxi to AC.Overall,a pretty good experience for my first night in the Philippines.
Life is good,
Avioneto
CanContrib
03-25-06, 21:54
Based largely on recommendations from this board, I've now been twice to the G-Point, only to be disappointed each time. True, it's got a nice atmosphere and is less crowded and less raunchy than LA, but I've never seen anyone there who is even close to tempting. Maybe I've just been unlucky and/or too impatient, but I cannot see what all the fuss is about.
:D
GE
I logged on to report on a couple of recent interesting happenings but made the mistake of reading a few postings, so now I have to reply to one, here.
G-Point isn't the paramount monger guaranteed 10-pointer 5 minute pickup place. Then again,
it _can_ be (and in my experience) has happened more than a few times. You try your luck, and maybe you find your dream. If not, go for a walk, then go back and find your dream. Of course, I could truthfully say the exact same of any other place - LA, Amazonia, any mall, anywhere. Nothing is 100% guaranteed all the time.
A week or so ago I had a night out with the brothers-in-law; so first (since that's the one place everyone can find) we agreed to meet at G-Point. I wasn't thrilled with the selection at 7pm and
neither were they. Then, one early-20's hot-body insisted on getting my attention. Eventually I told her that she's welcome to hang around, but we have to go for a walk, and if she really wants to wait for me for a few hours, fine, I'll catch her then.
So we made the rounds (which I had intended to post about, and will when I can). This story however has two of us back there around midnight, and this girl is whirling up a storm in front of the band. She's pretty happy (understatement) to see me back there. I tell her to go ahead and dance, we're going to have a beer, since I'm in no hurry having just finished with someone else an
hour earlier.
Eventually she drags me out to dance, which by her definition is to rub her parts all over me and give me a tonsillectomy in front of the band - which I was later told had the yummy band girls eyeing me too.
Though I had earlier talked her down to P1000 (they all ask too much these days), I decided to let
her go with my cell# to call me for "another time", since it was late and I didn't really need a second one that fast that night.
Meanwhile while all this was happening, a really nice girl that I would have gone with got pissed off
because I didn't stop the hot drunk one from dancing on my knee. I neglected to mention 2 other nice ones trying to get my attention earlier, only they were too shy to move on me when they should have.
The point is that at "G", there *are* nice ones, but you have to understand it's just a nice bar where girls of all ages, shapes, sizes, professions (or not) go to either drink or find someone to get laid or both.
CanContrib
03-25-06, 22:20
When we went for a walk between G-Point and G-Point on a Saturday night ...
Earlier in the week I mentioned to my (Pinoy) brothers-in-law that the time to go out in Malate is Fri or Sat evening, when the shoolgirls, professionals, and other working (vrs sex-worker) girls have time to go out looking for some hard fun. Fortunately, we did manage to arrange it for Sat night after all.
We had intended to make the rounds, but first one bayou wanted to see if a girl he "knows" might be at LA Cafe, so ok, we go there. Atin barkada orders beer and I say I'll be back in a few minutes after I see who's here. The place is packed at 10pm on a Saturday night, you have to squeeze between girls to walk around. Takes me 3 minutes to get to the other side (a few feet away) and someone really cute hollers my name loud enough to get my attention while jumping off her chair. She reminds me that she met me in G-Point over a year ago, but that night when she really wanted me (for free) I just didn't have enough time. I remember that last year, after a fast BJ in the car while dropping her off home in Pasay, she told me she was leaving for a 1-year overseas contract soon, and now she's just back and luck brought me past her table at just the right moment. So ok, she says, "No more waiting. We go *NOW* I'm horny and I want you NOW! Meron ka pera sa quarto mura sa tulog mamaya?" (or words to that effect, you get the drift. Ok, so it helps to understand a bit of Tagalog.)
I tell her to wait a few minutes, go explain to my brothers-in-law why I have to disappear for an hour, and off we go to make her happy.
Life is tough sometimes!
Point to all this? Met the girl first at G-Point, ran into her a year+ later at LA; finally made her happy after all that time. She's a professional (nurse), not a bar girl, 22 now, and has more money in the bank than I do, so just wanted me and not my money. She just happened to be there on her first night out with her friend, back from her overseas contract.
FWIW, my brothers-in-law later found their own girls, again professionals, not sex-workers, who just wanted to get laid. They went off to a hotel as soon as I got back. Those girls wanted to introduce me to their friend too, but hey, I just got back! The moral? Unless you want to pay for a sex-worker, nice regular girls are usually much more fun and a lot less expensive, in any bar, and if you're around long enough you'll eventually meet your old friends at another bar or the same bar and you won't know which one until it happens.
After all that, now what do I do about the girl waiting for me at G-Point from earlier that night?(see previous posting).
Cebu Local
03-26-06, 01:28
When we went for a walk between G-Point and G-Point on a Saturday night ...
Earlier in the week I mentioned to my (Pinoy) brothers-in-law that the time to go out in Malate is Fri or Sat evening, when the shoolgirls, professionals, and other working (vrs sex-worker) girls have time to go out looking for some hard fun. Fortunately, we did manage to arrange it for Sat night after all.
We had intended to make the rounds, but first one bayou wanted to see if a girl he "knows" might be at LA Cafe, so ok, we go there. Atin barkada orders beer and I say I'll be back in a few minutes after I see who's here. The place is packed at 10pm on a Saturday night, you have to squeeze between girls to walk around. Takes me 3 minutes to get to the other side (a few feet away) and someone really cute hollers my name loud enough to get my attention while jumping off her chair. She reminds me that she met me in G-Point over a year ago, but that night when she really wanted me (for free) I just didn't have enough time. I remember that last year, after a fast BJ in the car while dropping her off home in Pasay, she told me she was leaving for a 1-year overseas contract soon, and now she's just back and luck brought me past her table at just the right moment. So ok, she says, "No more waiting. We go *NOW* I'm horny and I want you NOW! Meron ka pera sa quarto mura sa tulog mamaya?" (or words to that effect, you get the drift. Ok, so it helps to understand a bit of Tagalog.)I THINK SHE SAID MERON KANG PERA PARA SA MURANG KUWARTO MAMAYA,DO YOU HAVE MONEY FOR A CHEAP ROOM TO SLEEP LATER,THE FORMER SENTENCE WAS GIBBERISH
I tell her to wait a few minutes, go explain to my brothers-in-law why I have to disappear for an hour, and off we go to make her happy.
Life is tough sometimes!
Point to all this? Met the girl first at G-Point, ran into her a year+ later at LA; finally made her happy after all that time. She's a professional (nurse), not a bar girl, 22 now, and has more money in the bank than I do, so just wanted me and not my money. She just happened to be there on her first night out with her friend, back from her overseas contract.
FWIW, my brothers-in-law later found their own girls, again professionals, not sex-workers, who just wanted to get laid. They went off to a hotel as soon as I got back. Those girls wanted to introduce me to their friend too, but hey, I just got back! The moral? Unless you want to pay for a sex-worker, nice regular girls are usually much more fun and a lot less expensive, in any bar, and if you're around long enough you'll eventually meet your old friends at another bar or the same bar and you won't know which one until it happens.
After all that, now what do I do about the girl waiting for me at G-Point from earlier that night?(see previous posting).I am glad that you are proof that as long as you give them respect,It is not difficult to get normal girls in the PI.Cheers
CanContrib
03-26-06, 21:52
I am glad that you are proof that as long as you give them respect,It is not difficult to get normal girls in the PI.Cheers
Hoy, CebuL, sempre!
Though I'm sure you and everyone have at some point unfortunately encountered the odd brazen gold-digger, the available Pinay (female) population is, how best to say it ... a gift from heaven.
They're people and mostly very nice people. As long as one doesn't try to take undue advantage of them , while at the same time making sure that they understand you won't permit them to take undue advantage of you, hey, life is good, di ba?
CanContrib
03-26-06, 22:05
I've increasingly noticed that ever since the Mayor started the "Baywalk" project with all the nice street lights, the fountain at Remedios that replaced the Chingy-chingy and mal-life that used to hang out there, etc etc, the cost of just about everything in Malate has doubled. No more 30 peso 1-litre beer, and part-time pickup girls now ask P1000 or even P1000, wheras not too long ago they would have been happy with P500 and ecstatic with any tip over that. Too many rich tourists and all the eVat and rVAT stuff has made some adventures way expensive now. Even out in Cavite some bar girls are asking 1500! It's getting way out of hand; time to just give up on pay-for-play and stick to non-pickup girls, which I notice seem to be more and more interested in making the first move these days. Nice!
Then again, one family member just told me yesterday about a bar way out in the boonies where the GROs are happy with 200 or 300, no bar fine, but you'll have invested P1000 in girlie drinks a few nights in a row before you get that far, wiich means the bar owner makes a bundle and the girl gets next-to-nothing. So, yeah. Like I wrote above, let's just bypass all that.
I am coming in next month and want to spend 2-3 days in Makati and 3-4 days in Malate/Manila and want thoughts on where to spend Monday to Wednesday which area and Thursday to Saturday which area would be best for mongering,etc. Thanks
CanContrib
03-31-06, 00:03
I am coming in next month and want to spend 2-3 days in Makati and 3-4 days in Malate/Manila and want thoughts on where to spend Monday to Wednesday which area and Thursday to Saturday which area would be best for mongering,etc. Thanks
Your time is limited. You didn't mention how much foreign currency you intend to blow away.
Given that, if I was you I'd get a decent room (lots of postings on that) around Malate, and make the circut (lots of postings on that) around Mabini and Del Plilar and Robinsons Mall and surrouding areas. Surely you'll find someone to keep you amused between the bars, the Mall, etc. You could do just that for 5 years and not be bored! Avoid street pimps (see postings). Note that Malate and Makati aren't all *that* far apart. I'd take use FX/Jeepnie/bus, but hey, you're a rich tourist so take a taxi - just make sure they put the meter on!
You can refer to all the Makati postings for such there; ditto for QC. If you're new and have 5 days,
don't consider the 'burbs unless you have a knowledgeable and trusted escort (which you probably don't have), and you only have 5 days, so restrict your territory, have fun, but remember to treat anyone decent you might meet with some respect, just as you might hope to get from them.
Fast Eddie 48
04-04-06, 22:24
I am coming in next month and want to spend 2-3 days in Makati and 3-4 days in Malate/Manila and want thoughts on where to spend Monday to Wednesday which area and Thursday to Saturday which area would be best for mongering,etc. Thanks
to Euaue
The best day is friday and saturday at LA cafe and robinson mall when most of the girl is out of school in malate , Rest of the week you can go to makati
or angeles city or hit the casa and edsa at pasay city .
fast eddie 48
Adam Jacob
04-05-06, 23:38
to Euaue
The best day is friday and saturday at LA cafe and robinson mall when most of the girl is out of school in malate , Rest of the week you can go to makati
or angeles city or hit the casa and edsa at pasay city .
fast eddie 48I've been to Robinson Mall.
But where is La Cafe from there?
1429 M.H. del Pilar St....somewhere between Robinsons and Baywalk.
LA Cafe web site:
http://www.ermita.com/LA%20cafe/
LA Cafe Map:
http://www.**********.com/map_showing_la_cafe.html
No offense, but next time...do an Internet search for this kind of information.
X
Hi Cebu Local,
As far as hotels go I would prefer one in the Holiday Inn price range not to far from the action, if it is safe and clean that's good. I will only be staying in Manila long enough to make plans for Cebu.
Also in Cebu I need a hotel that will serve as my home base where I could leave my suit case as I go island hopping in the Visayas.
Cebu Local and guy's thanks for the help. my pm is not working I'll have to take care of that when I get back so please post.
Joel Goodsen
04-09-06, 03:05
.. End up the evening at the LA cafe.The place was a zoo...
LOL!
Great report, very funny.. I agree. Perhaps they should rename the place. 'LA Zoo'
Adam Jacob
04-10-06, 23:32
1429 M.H. del Pilar St....somewhere between Robinsons and Baywalk.
LA Cafe web site:
http://www.ermita.com/LA%20cafe/
LA Cafe Map:
http://www.**********.com/map_showing_la_cafe.html
No offense, but next time...do an Internet search for this kind of information.
XThank Xman,
No offence, but none of the taxis whilst in the Philippines could find anything there.
They didn't know where FB harrison, Manila Casino, harrisons plaza etc.
Only place they knew was "The Heritage Hotel".
I've been there a couple of times and went there tonight (Holy Thursday) because I couldn't find too many places that were open.
I got there a little after 8pm and there was a group of about 6 girls dancing on stage. After a few songs, another group of about 6 girls came on. The first group went to a few of the tables with guys to talk to them.
After the second group a band came on and the second group also went to some tables to talk to the guys.
All of the girls had numbers on them and I found that you could bring a girl to your table for 300 pesos/hour.
I also saw some VIP rooms in the back and a girl in an evening dress walking into the area.
Anyone know about this? The previous time I went was at about 2am and there was a bunch of people dancing and some girls on stage dancing their routines and only thought it was a dance club.
Prices aren't bad for a place to hang out. 150 entry for males, 100 for females which included one San Mig or ice-tea, beers are 89, pitcher of draft is 190 and a barrel is 550.
Some of the girls were decent looking and it adds a little in my opinion to see them dancing--not like in the KTVs, more like in a dance club.
Earlier, someone reported:
***No offence, but none of the taxis whilst in the Philippines could find anything there.They didn't know where FB harrison, Manila Casino, harrisons plaza etc. Only place they knew was "The Heritage Hotel". ***
I can think of only three possible reasons for this.
1) You got a new taxi driver. Hmmmm, maybe not since you write "none of the taxis in the philippines". Maybe you meant to write Manila.
2) You looked like a newbie and they were testing you. If you couldn't give rough directions then they take the long way in order to earn more money. It still happens to me, but usually I like the different scenery so I don't complain unless time is an issue.
3) Your pronunciation or diction wasn't clear. It's always wise to speak slowly and clearly. English IS a second language for Filipinos.
Whenever a taxi driver makes me nervous I pull out my phone and start sending texts, or call someone. At the very least he'll think twice if he has some funny business in mind.
I find it generally is helpful to make a little small talk with the driver. Sometimes they are a great source of information. For example, you might ask how much he charges for a ride to AC. If he asks me if it is my first time, I would recommend you say "no" even if it is.
I also like to fk with them. For example, give a small / no tip, then say, "The tip would have been bigger but you gave me a headache by beeping your horn the entire trip." or "...but you didn't even slow down for that little old lady trying to cross the road."
Yes, I'm doing my part to make the streets of Manila quieter and safer. :-)
If I'm not mistaken there is a phone number somewhere on the outside of the taxis (in Manila). I believe it is the phone number for the taxi regulatory body ...and you can call it to make a complaint. Write that number down. If anyone is in Manila now, can you give us the number?
X
Another thing I do if I get nervous is pretend to call someone (or actually call someone) and give them the license plate of the taxi. It is written on the inside of both doors. If they were thinking of something, hopefully they'll wait for the next person.
My fake conversation is usually something like, "Yeah, I'm on my way now in a taxi. Taxi number? It's ABC-123. See you in a few minutes."
Also, I always sit in the back. Some people sit in the front and I have heard where the taxi stops, 2 people will jump in the back with knives and ask for your money. The taxi driver pretends he is being held up also but he is in on it too.
Lastly, it is a good idea to always lock the doors, ask the driver to turn on the meter and don't except and "plus" fares--meaning the driver wants +50 pesos on top of the meter. If he does this, tell him to pull over so you can get another taxi. He will either tell you to forget the "plus" fare or actually pull over.
Did my rounds tonight (Saturday) but with a girl so my response might have been different than if I didn't have a girl with me.
Stopped at Peppermint on Mabini near the church. It's a Japanese KTV bar with about 25 girls. Some of them are pretty decent looking but it is a KTV bar so not much action to be had. Between the 2 of us we had 4 beers and bought 2 drinks for a friend of mine. Total damage was about 2000 plus 500 tip for my friend. I think there is a 150 cover charge, ladies drinks are 300 and 200 per hour. Beers are 75. The one thing they had was for 500 pesos, it will include your cover charge and all you can drink for 2 hours. This doesn't include ladies drinks.
After that I went to check out LA Cafe for the first time. Got there about 1am and it was packed. There were probably over 100 girls there but I walked around the place twice and didn't see anything I would have been interested in. I did see 2 or 3 that I considered cute but that was it. I did see the other side but did not go upstairs.
After I left LA Cafe I went over to Miss Universal. Got there at about 2:00am and it was pretty empty. According to Vangie, the mamasan I always deal with, it was packed at 11pm but most of the people had left already.
We sat at the table in the front-center of the stage and did not see anything exceptional. Saw a few decent ones but no stunners like I usually see at MU. But, because it was after 2am, the good ones were probably all already in the VIP rooms. We did have a great view for the solo shows but of the 3 we saw, 2 of them were a little heavier and 1 was ok.
3 beers and 2 cover charges and the total was 520. Beers are 100 each now and cover charge is now 110 each. Didn't ask the price of the ladies drinks.
It's 4:30am and the girl I'm with had a little too much beer and is passed out now. I may head over to PDP for their promo rate of 1200 to cap the evening/morning off...
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Greetings
Has anyone stayed here or know what its like?
Cheers
Please ignore the post below from Teed On. Once again this is "On The Go" showing his feminine side by creating yet again another handle. It's really comical as he never has gotten over the fact Jackson sent him to his own thread recently. It seems this banisment has made this clown even more sad than he was before. Under OTG, he confessed he is a convicted felon who cannot leave the U.S. as he is on the run for violating the terms of his parole. As a result, he has lots of time for this kind of stuff.
Hi Guinness,
Actually, the complete list of this idiots's aliases are:
Chivas 1
On The Go
Prov 01
Segundo
Teed On
Thanks,
Jackson
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Kuni Majendra
04-17-06, 10:20
I'm new to this forum, but I read for 2months already and decided to be a member to help others find a quality girl here in the PL. Tru my experiecend in manila, I know a girl who works as a freelancer and take note she's a professional. We met at cafe havana in malate, indeed she didnt look like working as pro, she look decent. That's why I'm hesitate to approach her, she didnt smoke or even drink that's why. She look very nice. We seldom see each other now because of my work. But, still I kept her nos. Then, my second time in manila I went to known LA cafe, I was shock lots of freelancer are there. I meet a girl who look so young, but she's in the midst 20. I take her out of the cafe and go to my hotel, dude I pay only 2k for that whole night. I meet also her friends who stay at LA cafe as well, pay for cheaper price, but you cannt talk to them fluently because they don't speak english fluently. There sweet as I guarantee. I hope to see more girl in cheaper price.
If someone in this forum advice me where to go to find affordable one, please do let me know. I'm giving you also the mobile nos of my gfe, who work as part-time.
Thanks dude. Search for more girls out there.
You could try negotiationg with Freelancers/streetwalkers, but could be a very dangerous proposition.
I suggest you improve your bargaining skills.
I'm new to this forum, but I read for 2months already and decided to be a member to help others find a quality girl here in the PL. Tru my experiecend in manila, I know a girl who works as a freelancer and take note she's a professional. We met at cafe havana in malate, indeed she didnt look like working as pro, she look decent. That's why I'm hesitate to approach her, she didnt smoke or even drink that's why. She look very nice. We seldom see each other now because of my work. But, still I kept her nos. Then, my second time in manila I went to known LA cafe, I was shock lots of freelancer are there. I meet a girl who look so young, but she's in the midst 20. I take her out of the cafe and go to my hotel, dude I pay only 2k for that whole night. I meet also her friends who stay at LA cafe as well, pay for cheaper price, but you cannt talk to them fluently because they don't speak english fluently. There sweet as I guarantee. I hope to see more girl in cheaper price.
If someone in this forum advice me where to go to find affordable one, please do let me know. I'm giving you also the mobile nos of my gfe, who work as part-time.
Thanks dude. Search for more girls out there.
Member #1005
04-20-06, 07:56
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Kuni Majendra
04-20-06, 09:29
You could try negotiationg with Freelancers/streetwalkers, but could be a very dangerous proposition.
I suggest you improve your bargaining skills.Thank you dude,
I know in some certain point that its very dangerous, but all the girls ive been bfore are all professional in different category. Most of the pro here in manila are hard to find (student, professional, bank worker), but i know already some of them. I want to explore here in manila and makati, maybe asking for those who are very familiar where to find nice and average or above average girls who work as a pro?
Its much appreciated if someone gave me the place where can i find them.
Thank you!
KM
Joel Goodsen
04-21-06, 13:06
I'm new to this forum, but I read for 2months already and decided to be a member to help others find a quality girl here in the PL. Tru my experiecend in manila, I know a girl who works as a freelancer and take note she's a professional. We met at cafe havana in malate, indeed she didnt look like working as pro, she look decent. That's why I'm hesitate to approach her, she didnt smoke or even drink that's why. She look very nice. We seldom see each other now because of my work. But, still I kept her nos. Then, my second time in manila I went to known LA cafe, I was shock lots of freelancer are there. I meet a girl who look so young, but she's in the midst 20. I take her out of the cafe and go to my hotel, dude I pay only 2k for that whole night. I meet also her friends who stay at LA cafe as well, pay for cheaper price, but you cannt talk to them fluently because they don't speak english fluently. There sweet as I guarantee. I hope to see more girl in cheaper price.
If someone in this forum advice me where to go to find affordable one, please do let me know. I'm giving you also the mobile nos of my gfe, who work as part-time.
Thanks dude. Search for more girls out there.You can find streetwalkers operating on Mabini, not too far from LA Cafe. Prices can be as low as 1500 LT. 10 -12 pm will be a good time to check it out.
BTW, you'll find that most girls that walk the street also visit LA Cafe.
OldAsiaHand
04-21-06, 15:02
Spent a couple of nights in town this week. First night I got out of a business meeting pretty late so I just pulled something out of Greenbelt near the Cafe Havana. Back at the hotel, she gave me a line of bullshit about not being on the game and only offered a massage and BBBJ. She refused to take off all her clothes and I started to worry that she might be a lady boy in disguise even though she did not have any of the telltale features. BTW, I did not see any obvious lady boys in Greenbelt like there have been in the past. Made her show me her pussy anyway just to be sure. Reasonably good BBBJCIM followed by a half ass massage. Gave her 1,000 and she bitched for more. Showed her the door.
Second night, after an early drink with Cebu Local, I hit the LA Cafe. Just stood in the center of the bar downstairs and watched the parade. This place is a must see for all new mongers in Manila. Finally, I made my choice and off we went. In contrast with the previous night, this was total GFE. I won't bore you with all the details but after 4 pops in 8 hours I sent her off and could not move until 1:00PM the next afternoon. Worth every penny of the 2k + 100 taxi fare.
I was flying out stand-by so I had some extra waiting time. At the advise of Cebu Local, I checked out Air Force One. Air Force One is actually the KTV. The sauna/*****house is called Flight 168 or something. I am not sure if the details have been posted previously, but I will post for reference.
Economy Class: 1,200 + 1,200 before 7:00pm, 1,500 + 1500 after for 1 hour, 15 minutes in standard room.
Business Class: Better quality talent, 2k + 2k in a better room; 2.5 + 2.5 after 7:00pm: 1 1/2 hours.
First Class: Biz class girls in a VIP room (jacuzzi, double steam room, etc.) for 2 hours. 2,600 + 2,600; 3,300 + 3, 300 after 7:00PM.
Unfortunately, my time was limited and after 4 pops the night before, I decided to pass this time, but, IMHO is worth a visit in future. Excellent option for those in transit for domestic flights.
OAH
Cebu Local
04-23-06, 06:29
Spent a couple of nights in town this week. First night I got out of a business meeting pretty late so I just pulled something out of Greenbelt near the Cafe Havana. Back at the hotel, she gave me a line of bullshit about not being on the game and only offered a massage and BBBJ. She refused to take off all her clothes and I started to worry that she might be a lady boy in disguise even though she did not have any of the telltale features. BTW, I did not see any obvious lady boys in Greenbelt like there have been in the past. Made her show me her pussy anyway just to be sure. Reasonably good BBBJCIM followed by a half ass massage. Gave her 1,000 and she bitched for more. Showed her the door.
Second night, after an early drink with Cebu Local, I hit the LA Cafe. Just stood in the center of the bar downstairs and watched the parade. This place is a must see for all new mongers in Manila. Finally, I made my choice and off we went. In contrast with the previous night, this was total GFE. I won't bore you with all the details but after 4 pops in 8 hours I sent her off and could not move until 1:00PM the next afternoon. Worth every penny of the 2k + 100 taxi fare.
I was flying out stand-by so I had some extra waiting time. At the advise of Cebu Local, I checked out Air Force One. Air Force One is actually the KTV. The sauna/*****house is called Flight 168 or something. I am not sure if the details have been posted previously, but I will post for reference.
Economy Class: 1,200 + 1,200 before 7:00pm, 1,500 + 1500 after for 1 hour, 15 minutes in standard room.
Business Class: Better quality talent, 2k + 2k in a better room; 2.5 + 2.5 after 7:00pm: 1 1/2 hours.
First Class: Biz class girls in a VIP room (jacuzzi, double steam room, etc.) for 2 hours. 2,600 + 2,600; 3,300 + 3, 300 after 7:00PM.
Unfortunately, my time was limited and after 4 pops the night before, I decided to pass this time, but, IMHO is worth a visit in future. Excellent option for those in transit for domestic flights.
OAH
Glad to hear you had a great time,See you in GZ Cheers.Note Air Force 1 is located a 5 minute drive away from the International Airport and Highly reccomended for those wanting to kill a few hours in Transit between Domestic and International Flights.
Hi Friends:
During my recent visit in Manila I was approached several times by a number of pimps at Harrison Plaza. Never ever accept such kind of "help"! If these guys provide you with a girl prices can go up by 50%. There is simply no need for such kind of assistance as you can easily contact the girls yourself!
Hesekiels
Does anybody know the "Manila Hotel", are they girlfriendly?
I like to spend one or two day's there cause i like the ambiance :)
Does anybody know the "Manila Hotel", are they girlfriendly?
I like to spend one or two day's there cause i like the ambiance :)Of course it is girlfriendly! I was there several times and never had any problems with my visitors!
Enjoy your stay!
Hesekiels
I will be going to the Philippines end of May to conduct some training for my company again. I didn't get the chance to go around last time because of my hectic schedule, however, I have extended my stay there to enjoy the. Hmm. The areas. Anyone in the Philippines end of May till Mid June. Let me know.
LoveAsianWhores
04-29-06, 15:44
So as usual (at least when the coast is clear for some bar hopping) I start the night off with a trip to EDSA. I usually like to get there about 8:00 and do the rounds of the bars and be out of there by about 10:00 if I don't find anything. In all my trips there, I am stiil trying to figure out the best time to go. I find that by about 8:30 the place has been picked through by the Japs and Koreans, although many girls don't start till about 9:00. There are also some girls who don't get to work until after 10:00, particularly in the Firehouse. Get there too early, and the quantity of girls is low, and get there too late, and the really cute ones are all gone. What is a *****monger to do!
Anyway, Cotton club, Firehouse, Space Girls, Casino, Bullets...Nada. Pitstop is off limits for me (long story) and VIP usually sucks big time, so that left only Samba. I had a girl from Samba last week, and considering that was only I think the third girl I have ever had from that bar, it seemed a long shot that I'd find another so soon, but it is always worth a try.
So one of the mamas came up to me and pointed out a new girl. She was 18 and it was her first day on the job. Now, as any connoisseur of bar girls can tell you, first day girls are the best. Like Opus One is to a wine connoisseur, and pineapple weed is to a stoner, first day girls are what mongers search for. Of course, many would disagree about their favorite type of bar girl, but at least among the expat mongers I hang with, we all search for the fresh meet.
So I call her over. She is really 21 and it is her second night on the job, but she wasn't barfined yesterday, so she hasn't yet had her first customer. She is cute, but not especially so, but is very sweet and I decide that I would like to break her in.
So we drive across the street to Victoria court, and then she exclaims "oh my god, you're a veteran". Now a veteran is term used to describe someone who barfines girls on a regular basis. So veteran is certainly the right term for me. I guess she heard some bad things about "veterans" so she said she was scared and I sensed she wanted to back out. I then told her we would go to a restaurant and get something to eat so she could get to know me better. We go to Kenny Rogers at the end of the street. By this time, I noticed a lot mumbling and hand waving and I figured out that she was doing the cross on her chest and saying "oh lord, protect me". She did this every couple of minutes. Remembering a first timer that I spent a couple of hours with who I unintentionally talked out of entering the profession, I decided that this was not going to happen again. She softly asks what I expect. I ask her what she thinks, and her eyes get big and whispers "sex?" I felt like saying "what, are you a moron, obviously" But of course, I gave the correct response, of "if you are comfortable with it". The saint in me wants to talk them out of it, but the devil in me wants to fuck their brains out. The longer I do this, the stronger the devil gets, and I've been doing this for a while.
So by the end of dinner, she determines that I am a nice guy (or at least safe), so we proceed to Victoria Court. At this point, I decide it best not to waive my VC discount card (kind of like a frequent fucker card) to the attendant.
Before she takes of her clothes, she asks me if I am going to pay her because she is only doing this because her rent is due and she has no money. I tell her of course. I kind of feel sorry for her, but as usual, the size of my dick is bigger then my heart so I am actually quite thankful that she has these problems. Without Filipina girls and their financial issues, we wouldn’t have any bargirls.
She continues with the “oh lord protect me” routine right up until she gets into bed. At that point, I tell her “the lord has protected you, he sent you me”. As any naïve religious bargirl would, she believed that silly line and for the first time since leaving the bar she finally relaxed and smiled (of course, if the lord was really protecting her, he would have sent her the P2,000 by Angel Express, instead of some guy twice her age to bang her).
So, I helped a sweet young girl down the road to becoming a worn our ho. Am I proud of myself? Certainly not. Would I do it again?
Hell yeah!
Cebu Local
04-29-06, 16:30
So as usual (at least when the coast is clear for some bar hopping) I start the night off with a trip to EDSA. I usually like to get there about 8:00 and do the rounds of the bars and be out of there by about 10:00 if I don't find anything. In all my trips there, I am stiil trying to figure out the best time to go. I find that by about 8:30 the place has been picked through by the Japs and Koreans, although many girls don't start till about 9:00. There are also some girls who don't get to work until after 10:00, particularly in the Firehouse. Get there too early, and the quantity of girls is low, and get there too late, and the really cute ones are all gone. What is a *****monger to do!
Anyway, Cotton club, Firehouse, Space Girls, Casino, Bullets...Nada. Pitstop is off limits for me (long story) and VIP usually sucks big time, so that left only Samba. I had a girl from Samba last week, and considering that was only I think the third girl I have ever had from that bar, it seemed a long shot that I'd find another so soon, but it is always worth a try.
So one of the mamas came up to me and pointed out a new girl. She was 18 and it was her first day on the job. Now, as any connoisseur of bar girls can tell you, first day girls are the best. Like Opus One is to a wine connoisseur, and pineapple weed is to a stoner, first day girls are what mongers search for. Of course, many would disagree about their favorite type of bar girl, but at least among the expat mongers I hang with, we all search for the fresh meet.
So I call her over. She is really 21 and it is her second night on the job, but she wasn't barfined yesterday, so she hasn't yet had her first customer. She is cute, but not especially so, but is very sweet and I decide that I would like to break her in.
So we drive across the street to Victoria court, and then she exclaims "oh my god, you're a veteran". Now a veteran is term used to describe someone who barfines girls on a regular basis. So veteran is certainly the right term for me. I guess she heard some bad things about "veterans" so she said she was scared and I sensed she wanted to back out. I then told her we would go to a restaurant and get something to eat so she could get to know me better. We go to Kenny Rogers at the end of the street. By this time, I noticed a lot mumbling and hand waving and I figured out that she was doing the cross on her chest and saying "oh lord, protect me". She did this every couple of minutes. Remembering a first timer that I spent a couple of hours with who I unintentionally talked out of entering the profession, I decided that this was not going to happen again. She softly asks what I expect. I ask her what she thinks, and her eyes get big and whispers "sex?" I felt like saying "what, are you a moron, obviously" But of course, I gave the correct response, of "if you are comfortable with it". The saint in me wants to talk them out of it, but the devil in me wants to fuck their brains out. The longer I do this, the stronger the devil gets, and I've been doing this for a while.
So by the end of dinner, she determines that I am a nice guy (or at least safe), so we proceed to Victoria Court. At this point, I decide it best not to waive my VC discount card (kind of like a frequent fucker card) to the attendant.
Before she takes of her clothes, she asks me if I am going to pay her because she is only doing this because her rent is due and she has no money. I tell her of course. I kind of feel sorry for her, but as usual, the size of my dick is bigger then my heart so I am actually quite thankful that she has these problems. Without Filipina girls and their financial issues, we wouldn’t have any bargirls.
She continues with the “oh lord protect me” routine right up until she gets into bed. At that point, I tell her “the lord has protected you, he sent you me”. As any naïve religious bargirl would, she believed that silly line and for the first time since leaving the bar she finally relaxed and smiled (of course, if the lord was really protecting her, he would have sent her the P2,000 by Angel Express, instead of some guy twice her age to bang her).
So, I helped a sweet young girl down the road to becoming a worn our ho. Am I proud of myself? Certainly not. Would I do it again?
Hell yeah!Want to send her to another"nice Guy"????If you have her numbers,I can "help"her earn some more rent money ...........Cheers
Hello guys,
Just as information, would it be interesting in going to Manila and to date girls to have sex with them?
Would it be easy to have sex with them after 2-3 meetings? Or are girls in Manila very conservative and would like to wait till the marriage?
I am less than 40 years old, white, and I will stay there about 1-3 months....
Don't hesitate to give me your point of vue. I will read it with pleasure.
What should I expect to rent a furnished one-room apartment in Manila for 1 month?
Why don't you do a survey through Filipina Hearts or Filipina Freind Finder.
I will be going in a few months and, through Filipina Hearst, have gotten commitments from girls who say they will stay overnight with me.
Granted, I went though quite a few before some agreed, however, it is good time management if you can get an indication of how far they are willing to go before you arrive.
I found the best hunting ground for this type of set up to be Davao. Although I have arranged for "overnighters" in Manila and Cebu.
Good luck.
Hello guys,
Just as information, would it be interesting in going to Manila and to date girls to have sex with them?
Would it be easy to have sex with them after 2-3 meetings? Or are girls in Manila very conservative and would like to wait till the marriage?
I am less than 40 years old, white, and I will stay there about 1-3 months....
Don't hesitate to give me your point of vue. I will read it with pleasure.
Cebu Local
04-30-06, 00:24
What should I expect to rent a furnished one-room apartment in Manila for 1 month?You can get a lot of good choices for 200-300$
Friar Tuck
04-30-06, 11:55
Hi Volpone.
You would be surprised just how many women on FH and TLL are, if not full time P4P, atleast part-timers. AdultFF even more so!
I have met around 40 or so from FH and TLL and only one did not put out on the first night, she was rather cunning and every conversation was steered to her financial situation!
A word of warning however. The non-professionals can be damn hard to get rid of and performance varies greatly.
It can become a nuisance juggling dates etc.
My advice is to stick to the usual sources and pay the going rates, it is small change after all, why create problems?
Cheers
Tuck
try this link if its allowed. sorry mod if links arent allowed.
http://www.adpost.com/ph/house_rental_search/
http://www.islandsproperties.com/
Thanks a lot guys for your informations. I really enjoy to read them.
Hey guys I heard Art Bell from coast2coast is now living in the fils! He is going to do his radio program from out there!
Number Six
05-01-06, 10:27
Hi Volpone.
---snip----
A word of warning however. The non-professionals can be damn hard to get rid of and performance varies greatly.
It can become a nuisance juggling dates etc.
My advice is to stick to the usual sources and pay the going rates, it is small change after all, why create problems?
Cheers
TuckI am not sure the source of this quote. I've heard it's Frank Sinatra, but anyway it goes like this: You don't pay hookers to have sex with you. You pay them to leave afterwards.
Hey guys I heard Art Bell from coast2coast is now living in the fils! He is going to do his radio program from out there!
So he is leaving the land of Nye for the Phil? I thought we was retired? I suppose it is a good place to retire. It will be interesting to hear what his take is on the P.I.
I dont live in the US of A so who is Art Bell?
Was in Cebu once and Kasey Kasem was dj'ing in a disco.
Hey guys I heard Art Bell from coast2coast is now living in the fils! He is going to do his radio program from out there!
I am not sure the source of this quote. I've heard it's Frank Sinatra, but anyway it goes like this: You don't pay hookers to have sex with you. You pay them to leave afterwards.I think those are words from monger hall of famer Charlie Sheen. What a lucky bastard.
Long time monger but first timer in Manila. Arrived early this morning and left luggage at Garden City Hotel before walking out to Burgos St. Location of hotel is great with easy and close access to nearby bars. Hit Flamingos, the Bronx, Wild Wild West, and others that I forget but easily Flamingos had the best quality. Was walking between bars when I spotted this hottie coming out of cab to head over to one of the bars. To make story short she went back with me to hotel for about 2 hours( I needed rest after 20 hour trip from NYC)for 1500 pesos during which time I fucked her twice including travel to the Greek Isles( one of my favorite). She was a good sport and even asked at the end if I was happy. She was pretty,spinner;4'-10", 90 lbs. and looked very young(16-17) but was actually 22(showed me her ID). I will post her pics when I head back home. On the streets, hawkers were everywhere offering merchandise,girls and Viagra. I think I really gonna love this trip.
Any mongers here are welcome to PM me and we could meet for drinks or to exchange info.
Spent 4 days in the Makati area. Went to several clubs on Burgos; Jolly's which has a handful of reasonably attractive girls dancing in clothes. Was told the bar fine was 3000 Pesos, and the "tip" was $100. Rather steep I thought. The dance show was impressive with a well choreographed, "professional" dance routine. I tried to buy one of the dancers, but was told they are only dancers and don't go home. Must be true, since if one of the girls was absent, the dance routine would be screwed up.
Los Bandidos had a few attractive girls. By far the best club was Flamingo's, which is consistent with what other mongers have posted in previous messages. Many attractive girls, and the ugly ones are even cute. Bar fine 1900 P, and 2000-3000 P for long time, depending on the girl.
Stayed at a 5 star hotel (business trip, I wasn't paying), and they had no problem allowing my guests. So figure all hotels must be GF friendly.
Finally visited this well discussed pick up bar and I was very surprised at the high quality and youth of these girls. By 1am, place was jumping with anywhere from 150-250 girls most of whom rated 6 or better. I easily spotted 3 10's but they quickly were seated with the Koreans who dominate the second floor. They all are in a festive mood with some being quite aggresive. I stayed away from them and took mychances with a 6-1/2 spinner. She was 22 and had a curvy body with c cups. We talked a bit( I was in pain as I had a bit of laryngitis and could not play the game well). But she understood and readily accepted to go back to my hotel without any price spoken. She was a bit shy at first as she only would do everything covered( I know I am spoiled from all the bbbj's that I had in my life). She did warm up later for second round and stayed night till next day( damm, she caused me to delay my AC trip) and even went sightseeing with me. She did mentione that she needed a new blouse and at the end gave her 1500 plus fed her and gave her small gifts(like T-backs and chocolate) She greatly thanked me and even wanted me to take her to AC. But that would have been a big NO-NO.
Pinga obviously enjoyed himself...but may have a few facts mixed up. This happens after late night drinking and early morning sexercise...
I've never seen the 2nd floor dominated by "Koreans" or any other Asians. This is where the band plays and there is a cover charge of 100 pesos. It is the back room that tends to be Japanese/ Korean dominated. That never stopped me from going back there though.
As for quality, it varies just like it does in the bars. Any kind of review you read is probably irrelevant. Just go see for yourself. Once I found LACafe full of sweet stuff in the late afternoon and full of battle-hardened single mothers in the evening. Friday night I pulled a real sweet thing ...pictures coming soon.
**side note: EDSA Entertainment Complex is increasingly East Asian. Although I don't like to over generalize, I've heard over and over from the girls themselves that "it's smaller". In one case girl A said "smaller" and then girl B added, "and quicker". I suspect more lucrative as well, but I try to avoid money talk with my "girlfriends".
X
Spent 4 days in the Makati area. Went to several clubs on Burgos; Jolly's which has a handful of reasonably attractive girls dancing in clothes. Was told the bar fine was 3000 Pesos, and the "tip" was $100. Rather steep I thought. The dance show was impressive with a well choreographed, "professional" dance routine. I tried to buy one of the dancers, but was told they are only dancers and don't go home. Must be true, since if one of the girls was absent, the dance routine would be screwed up.
Los Bandidos had a few attractive girls. By far the best club was Flamingo's, which is consistent with what other mongers have posted in previous messages. Many attractive girls, and the ugly ones are even cute. Bar fine 1900 P, and 2000-3000 P for long time, depending on the girl.
Stayed at a 5 star hotel (business trip, I wasn't paying), and they had no problem allowing my guests. So figure all hotels must be GF friendly.I think by "Jolly's" you mean Joules. Yes it is true that there are many beautiful girls at that club and from my experiences there, I reckon the best way to proceed is to try and get the girl's cell phone no. and try to contact her tbe next day for a private "consultation"!
BTW a $100 tip is far too much. If can cut out the bar fine, 2,000 pesos for a 2-3 hr. session is plenty for a P. Burgos gal and if go the LA Cafe you might be able to bargain her down to even a 1000 p.
Roversman 999
05-09-06, 08:54
Hi.. I used to live in Makati and regualrly return. These days Im a regualr on the KL boards but still keep some angels in Makati. Im still well known in P Burgos thankfully.. its amazing how these girls remember who you are and last time you were in their bar and what sex act you did together.
Was there for a few days and was a regular at Sogo in Pasay. ( Note..why do they always tell me whatever time of day it is that all rooms are full and only VIP available.. could it be they are more expensive.. hahah)..
Anyways had 4 visits there in 4 days and all was good.
Only dissapoinbtment was that the bars next to domestic airport have all been closed. They were great, I know they werent as lively as Burgos but they were really good fun especially when you were only customer in there all night.
Anyways tried the Utopia health club.. was their first customer as 12 noon as I was on way to NAIA. P1500 and gal gets naked in shower with you and stays naked. Not the cleanest place in town but its convenient if you need a pre airport bonk.
Love Makati but for obvious reasons asawa ko ( wife ) doesnt let me get there too often on my own. CAnt think why...
Pete The Beat
05-09-06, 12:31
My first, but hopefully not my last post! Spent 10 great days in Manila in January over the New Year period and must admit it was everything that I expected! I'm Aussie, divorced and 54, and just went to meet as many nice young Filipinas as possible. Without a doubt, LA Cafe is the place to go when you don't want the hassle of mamasans, pimps etc. But before you go there, I would suggest trying your luck at Glorietta - the office workers looking for a little bonus money and a mutually pleasant time together are there as long as you are patient and take your time.
I didn't have much luck at Robinsons or Harrisons malls and the ladyboys are really hard to pick!! Watch out!! So if I didn't meet anyone at Glorietta, I would head back to the LA Cafe and take my time there, talking, drinking, playing pool until I had decided on the girl I liked most. Every night was different, but I was happy with the selection and the atmosphere is great.
Overall the shopping is good and cheap and the people are unbelievably friendly. I stayed at the Hyatt Casino in Ermita and can heartily recommend it!
Have stayed in touch with several of the girls I met via email since then and on average paid about 2000 pesos for an all nighter. Always used a condom though it was rarely requested!
I am looking forward to going back again at the end of the year for what will probably be a yearly pilgrimage!!
I was in Manila after a hard night of hammering on some business partners and did not want to ride to Subic alone. So I went out early on P.Burgos st, and sat a matrix and found a great looking 20yr old walking around shopping with the sidewalk venders.She was being hastled by 2 black guys from Cali, U.S.A. The gal wanted to talk to me and so she sat with me and told the 2 guys that I was the BF she was waiting on.
They soon left and when I started talking to her and said I was going back to Subic she said she would go with me if I wanted.I said ok, and off we went and she stayed with me 3 days before I sent her back to makati.
If you treat the girls with respect they will stay with you forever and the way to get respect is to give it in return. I will not say all the gals are good gals they all know every scamm in the book but just be nice and kind, That costs nothing and you can have a great time wherever you go in the PI.
Too many guys treat these gals like dogs and think they can treat them like dirt and the answer to that is IT DON'T WORK LIKE THAT !! They are not like gals in the U.S. that do tricks for there next drug fix. Most of the gals do what they do to feed themselves and there families.They are nice people and all my frends say watch out for the philippinos they will scamm you. The real truth is most of the foreigners are the ones SCAMMING the people there. They even try to get the ones from there own country. Be careful !! Never trust anyone and never lend money or tell anyone about money you have eather in the bank, or on your person.
Youn can have a great time here and no problems, if you stay sober long enough to think with the big head first. Like the people in this country say, "ALL THE FOREIGNERS LEAVE THERE BRAINS AT THE AIRPORT"
Play safe, BC.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Pinga obviously enjoyed himself...but may have a few facts mixed up. This happens after late night drinking and early morning sexercise...
I've never seen the 2nd floor dominated by "Koreans" or any other Asians. This is where the band plays and there is a cover charge of 100 pesos. It is the back room that tends to be Japanese/ Korean dominated. That never stopped me from going back there though.
As for quality, it varies just like it does in the bars. Any kind of review you read is probably irrelevant. Just go see for yourself. Once I found LACafe full of sweet stuff in the late afternoon and full of battle-hardened single mothers in the evening. Friday night I pulled a real sweet thing ...pictures coming soon.
**side note: EDSA Entertainment Complex is increasingly East Asian. Although I don't like to over generalize, I've heard over and over from the girls themselves that "it's smaller". In one case girl A said "smaller" and then girl B added, "and quicker". I suspect more lucrative as well, but I try to avoid money talk with my "girlfriends".
X Oops. Yes ,you are right I should have said that the back room sitting area was dominated by Koreans. I guess I just lucked out cause the night that I was there the majority of the girls were young and cute. If you say you were there on friday night then that was the same night that I was there. Sorry, I could not say hello but I must have definitely seen you.
Anyone going to be in the Philippines May and June?
I will be there.
I should have posted this right away so the word gets out, but been terribly busy since I got back to reality.
There is a money changer on Mabini that is cheating customers and I caught the *****.
Usually, they'll count the money out and lay it in front of you. You pick up the money and count it and then go on your way. Never had problems until last week.
First, she said if I changed more money, she would give me a better rate. OK. Then she counted out ten 500 notes for 5000 pesos and set it in a pile and told me to count it. Then she had her hands on the pile I had already counted. She counted out another pile and had me count it. Again, she put her hands on the pile, which naturally set of warning signals for me.
At the end she picks up the whole pile and hands it to me all the while talking and telling me to come back again. When I grabbed the pile I squeezed it tightly and sure enough, I felt a very slight tug as she pulled away her hand. I was looking at her hand the whole time and didn't see anything. I think she had folded a few of the bills inside the pile and pulled them out as she pulled her hand away. The folded bill(s) would have been on her half, not my half, which is why the tug was barely noticeable.
I said, "Let's count again..." She immediatetly took the money out of my hands and took it down to her side of the counter out of my eye sight. She brought the money back up, counted it out in one pile, and handed it over. It was the correct amount. I said, "Don't you ever do that to me again you *****.". She kept silent.
I took a photo of the place and will give the name a bit later, but I don't have access to my camera at the moment. I'll send that along soon.
Be careful gentlemen.
****** = female dog
X
I should have posted this right away so the word gets out, but been terribly busy since I got back to reality.
There is a money changer on Mabini that is cheating customers and I caught the *****.
Usually, they'll count the money out and lay it in front of you. You pick up the money and count it and then go on your way. Never had problems until last week.
First, she said if I changed more money, she would give me a better rate. OK. Then she counted out ten 500 notes for 5000 pesos and set it in a pile and told me to count it. Then she had her hands on the pile I had already counted. She counted out another pile and had me count it. Again, she put her hands on the pile, which naturally set of warning signals for me.
At the end she picks up the whole pile and hands it to me all the while talking and telling me to come back again. When I grabbed the pile I squeezed it tightly and sure enough, I felt a very slight tug as she pulled away her hand. I was looking at her hand the whole time and didn't see anything. I think she had folded a few of the bills inside the pile and pulled them out as she pulled her hand away. The folded bill(s) would have been on her half, not my half, which is why the tug was barely noticeable.
I said, "Let's count again..." She immediatetly took the money out of my hands and took it down to her side of the counter out of my eye sight. She brought the money back up, counted it out in one pile, and handed it over. It was the correct amount. I said, "Don't you ever do that to me again you *****.". She kept silent.
I took a photo of the place and will give the name a bit later, but I don't have access to my camera at the moment. I'll send that along soon.
Be careful gentlemen.
****** = female dog
X
That's really interesting news and I highly appreciate this post! I had, however, never encountered such kind of a problem (knock on wood!)! What I would like to know is, was it an 'authorized money changer' who tried to rip you off, or somebody from the street?
Cheers
Hesekiels
Cebu Local
05-12-06, 00:13
That's really interesting news and I highly appreciate this post! I had, however, never encountered such kind of a problem (knock on wood!)! What I would like to know is, was it an 'authorized money changer' who tried to rip you off, or somebody from the street?
Cheers
HesekielsSad to say,Even among authorized money changers,This scam is quite common.Recently the Central Bank closed down 20 of these for precisely doing this scam
GoodEnough
05-12-06, 02:47
This is one of the reasons that I always advise people not to bring much cash and to rely on ATM cards, which are reasonably foolproof. Also, the exchange rate is invariably better.
CL: DS will be in town tomorrow. When are you coming?
:D
GE
scrupuoulsly honest operation run by Chinese who have been doing it since my first visit (1994). It is in the small alley just NORTH of the Malate Pension (on same side of street-WEST). 1 block North of Remedios Cicle in Malate. Hours can be irregular as they take breaks. You push the button and they buzz you past 2 security gates as you walk up the stairs to the counters. Best rates in town, big bills, you get a per strip from adding machine showing payout. Never a single piso short.
Change with the criminals on Mabini Street and you get what you deserve. Nowadays, I use my ATM too but the rate these people give is better than ATM rate (and no fees!). Great bulgogi at the Korean Palace restaurant on Remedios Circle too so I used to go change money at lunchtime.
I always change my money at malls and have found very competitive rates. I don't go to the ones with the digital boards--the ones where they are written on a white board. I have exchanged at Robinson's Galleria, Green Hills, Glorietta, and Greenbelt1 that I can recall. I once exchanged at a SM but they have a long line, need ID and the rates are usually a little lower than at the malls.
I've heard so many stories about the small places that it's worth it to me to go to reputable places in malls where you know you won't get ripped off. I am sure that Robinson's in Ermita has one also.
I opened a bank account with BPI and progressivly transfer between trips. Keep a check on account with internet access.
CanContrib
05-12-06, 13:34
Hello guys,
Just as information, would it be interesting in going to Manila and to date girls to have sex with them?
Would it be easy to have sex with them after 2-3 meetings? Or are girls in Manila very conservative and would like to wait till the marriage?
I am less than 40 years old, white, and I will stay there about 1-3 months....
So you're younger than most of us! Not that most girls care all that much, other than generally they like someone "mature" vrs some kid. At 40 you should have them falling all over you.
I presume you're asking about dating ordinary girls, not bar girls. Good choice if you have the time to court them, they do require a modicum of effort and investment. If you can talk to them before you meet them and already have an established rapport by the time you're close enough to touch, then chances are good for you that touching will be what you're doing when you meet. Depending on the girl, you might be "touching" all night and for as long as you let her be in love with you - because if you pick a nice girl that's *exactly* what will happen - she will fall in love with you. With that of course go all the trappings, so expect to be taking the "family" to dinner, helping her with the rent, buying new glasses for Papang, etc.
Depending on her current financial situation and needs, she will at some point be asking you to help her with some of those needs. For example, one (ordinary girl) friend recently asked me if I could help her get her tooth fixed (she showed me and it really did need fixing). Actually she was going to have it pulled and I said nononono you will get it fixed. I asked how much she needed and she guessed 300 (pesos), which I know is too low, so I gave her 1000. In this case, that was our 3rd date. We did make love the first two dates too, which wasn't surprising since she got my cell# from a mutual friend and it was she who asked me for that first date.
If she's not in your bed (or you in hers) by the third date then you got really unluky picking the wrong girl. Though most ordinary girls are conservative (Phils is ostensibly a conservative country) girls especially between 18 and 40 are just dying to fall in love with a foreigner (who can support them and their extended family). Don't be surprised if by the 3rd date she brings along her kids to meet you and enjoy the Jollibee blowup you're going to treat them to.
Nuff said, by the time you get to that point you'll be well on your way to figuring out the rest.
Enjoy!
CanContrib
05-12-06, 13:46
I opened a bank account with BPI and progressivly transfer between trips. Keep a check on account with internet access.
Yes, in my experience, BPI is an excellent choice for a foreigner. They will want you to produce your "ACR" (Alien Certificate of Registration), but if you have the right account manager you can open an account with just your passport and a second piece of picture ID. Other banks are stricter.
There will be a required minimum deposit to open the account, and if you keep over that minimum then there are *no* services charges!!!! (Unlike North America where they service-charge you to death). The only thing you wind up paying for is your checkbook, which last time I think was about 115 pesos or somesuch. The minimum opening amount requirement can be as low as 500 pesos now, and that includes your ATM card. However, unlike NorthAmerican banks, don't ever expect to be in and out of there in 5 minutes. I prefer to send my wife or an employee to make local deposits, since I have on many occasions stood in line for over an hour to make a simple deposit.
Mondays, Fridays, and the day after a holiday are bad days to attend at the bank.
I've done several wire-transfers from my foreign accounts to my BPI account, and the exchange rate is very reasonable (better than a lot of others), and they've been ultra-reliable. They also have a US$ account if you prefer that to a Peso account.
Their web site is slow, but functional and handy, especially if you want to pay PLDT or Meralco or reload your cellfone in the middle of Sunday night.
CanContrib
05-12-06, 14:34
if you pick a nice girl that's *exactly* what will happen - she will fall in love with you.
You mentioned you're planning on visiting Phils for 1 to 3 months. Okay! Nice plan.
I neglected to mention but should, that if you pick a girl really worth having (or permit one to chose you as more often happens), there's a significant danger that as she falls in love with you, you might fall in love with her. Five years ago I never expected to have a Pinay wife and live in the Philippines for the rest of my life!
One key is that he married a pinay and lived in the PI with her. He did not make the common, and serious, mistake of bringing one to the US. I was not so smart.
Youu see lawyers in the PI make 1% of what we make in the US-the ONLY reason I am still living in the GWL (Great Wasteland)). So I did not really having the option of moving there to be with her. 5 years later, she is living in the house and I paid a divorce lawyer $25,000 to get rid of her. Filipinas become Americanized at an alarming rate. For every success story of a couple living happily in the US for decades, there are dozens of bitter divorces where the yankee got cleaned. While my evidence is anecdotal, it is irrefutable. You've been warned.
BPI is great for sending piso to your honeyko in the PI. $7 per remittance, unless it went up again (been a few years).
One key is that he married a pinay and lived in the PI with her. He did not make the common, and serious, mistake of bringing one to the US. I was not so smart.
Youu see lawyers in the PI make 1% of what we make in the US-the ONLY reason I am still living in the GWL (Great Wasteland)). So I did not really having the option of moving there to be with her. 5 years later, she is living in the house and I paid a divorce lawyer $25,000 to get rid of her. Filipinas become Americanized at an alarming rate. For every success story of a couple living happily in the US for decades, there are dozens of bitter divorces where the yankee got cleaned. While my evidence is anecdotal, it is irrefutable. You've been warned.
BPI is great for sending piso to your honeyko in the PI. $7 per remittance, unless it went up again (been a few years).
... that a divorce (usually) takes place after 'she' finally got the US- (or Canadian, Swiss, British ... you name it) passport!
What a big surprise if the girl is more than 20 years younger than you!? Wow, the jackpot was hit, big money comes in and the entire world is open now (no travel restrictions anymore). So, why not to bring the former coeval pinoy-lover into the promised land as well?
Just my personal observation, of course!
Cheers
Hesekiels
Fred C Dobbs
05-13-06, 05:15
As stated they allow people to open accounts outside of the Philippines. I am in the process of opening one now. I want to open a checking, savings and possibly a time deposit account. How do people here make deposits to their accounts from overseas? Do you wire the money or send checks or both? Do you send personal checks or some other kind? I have never wired money before and read on another forum that the charges there can be very high. Which branch did you guys open yours at? Any and all advise would be appreciated.
ComingToCebu
05-13-06, 17:25
As stated they allow people to open accounts outside of the Philippines. I am in the process of opening one now. I want to open a checking, savings and possibly a time deposit account. How do people here make deposits to their accounts from overseas? Do you wire the money or send checks or both? Do you send personal checks or some other kind? I have never wired money before and read on another forum that the charges there can be very high. Which branch did you guys open yours at? Any and all advise would be appreciated.Fred,
Are you resident in PI or USA ( or Oz, UK, etc)?
I tried to open a BPI account from the USA and got the following email from them:
Dear Mr. Davis:
Greetings from BPI Express Online!
We received your e-mail regarding your wish to open a checking account with
us. Thank you for your interest in opening your account with us. However,
we regret to inform you that your request cannot be accommodated at the
moment because you need to go to a branch to sign the necessary papers and to make an initial deposit. As such, may we suggest that you just open your account upon your visit to the Philippines.
Thank you for choosing to bank with us online!
Gary
Actually, it is in Daly City (AKA Filipino Town USA) just outside SF. If you live in the Midwest I guess it is not so easy though.
Somebody asked for more detail in the directions to the moneychanger. If you walk out of Malate Pension and turn LEFT (North, away from Remedios Circle) turn LEFT again at the first alley then walk about 20 yards until there is a corner where the alley spilts. The place is in the building on that cornewr which is on your right.
Fast Eddie 48
05-14-06, 02:04
I never have any problem changing in manila , You need to use your common
sense I only use agent that have alot of people use by local , There are so
many of them in malate , never take offer in the st or accept small bill only use agent have 1000 peso bill , I think manila is easier place in the world to
change US bill or even US traveler check and china is the worst .
fast eddie 48
Fred C Dobbs
05-14-06, 02:44
I applied on line Thursday night and immediately received an e-mail advising me as being a non-Philippine resident to go to one of ther BPI Express Remittance Centers (BERC) which they said they listed below but didn't. The email also asked me to reply to their email and they would proceed with processing my application. I responded to their email but have not heard back from but it is the weekend there. I'll let you know what happens next.
I live in the Los Angeles, California area.
Here is a pic of the Mabini st. ripoff money changer. The name is MACKY. The guy in the foreground has nothing to do with the place.
Lot of posts on this subject, but could you guys please give us some facts so that we know how you came to your conclusions.
Why accept only 1000 bills? I find the damn things nearly impossible to get rid of and much prefer the 500s. Of course 1000 is a lot easier to count, less easy to do slight of hand, but is there any other reason.
Someone says avoid Mabini st. I've changed thousands of dollars there and never had a problem until earlier this month. Why avoid Mabini st.?
X
I thought I'd add some background information from my research.
Where I currently live in Korea, there are MetroBank branches. So, I asked around if I can have an account. I can, but only with the local branch. Huh?
I inquired a local Filipina bargirl about her accounts. She states that she has two accounts. One here in Korea (in US$) and one back home in PI (in Pesos). Hmmm... Ok...
However, the two accounts are not linked. She cannot transfer money easily. She sends money to her own account in PI (via a wire transfer). She showed me her remittance form. Yep, it has the appropriate charges.
I stated that it doesn't make sense for her to pay such fees for a simple transfer, especially for her own accounts in the same bank. (I am thinking of the ACH [Automatic Clearing House] transfer for US bank accounts.) She said that that's the only way. Hmmm... need verfication...
Anyway, recently, I went to Manila. And, took time out to check with the MetroBank there. The new-accounts manager explains to me that I cannot open an account in Manila without being a resident (i.e. proper IDs/Visa), but if I do have an account with the branch in Korea, then, she may be able to bypass the red tapes and give me an account there. Ok, sounds good.
So, I asked about money transfer. Same story. The two accounts are not linked, so I'd have to pay wire transfer fees to deposit money into the PI account from overseas. Ouch...
This is similar to the local Korean banks. The branches are independent of each other and compete for customers. So, when I had to make a deposit to someone's account, I had to pay a service charge if I am not at the branch where the account was opened. The teller explains to me that they have to send money to the other branch. Wow, totally different from US banks where your account is accessible from all branches, and the bank's money is linked to all branches.
Anyway, I recommend that before you open with the local accounts in your own country, check to see if it is separate from the branches in PI. Or, will there be a respective/linked PI account? Will there be any deposit fees? Or, will there be wire transfer/remittance fees?
Based on emails below, it appears that the online banking forms are linked to BPI in Philippines. Does anyone know if there is similar online service for US branches?
Seeko
Thanks for the research Seeko,
For the record, I found the exact same thing US/Japan. Japanese banks which had branches in the US, and US banks in Japan (citibank) won't/don't allow you to move money between "branches".
My research is many years old so I don't know if it still applies. I think it has to do with national banking laws.
X
Great work.
This is what this board should be all about.
Here is a pic of the Mabini st. ripoff money changer. The name is MACKY. The guy in the foreground has nothing to do with the place.
Lot of posts on this subject, but could you guys please give us some facts so that we know how you came to your conclusions.
Why accept only 1000 bills? I find the damn things nearly impossible to get rid of and much prefer the 500s. Of course 1000 is a lot easier to count, less easy to do slight of hand, but is there any other reason.
Someone says avoid Mabini st. I've changed thousands of dollars there and never had a problem until earlier this month. Why avoid Mabini st.?
X
I think by "Jolly's" you mean Joules. Yes it is true that there are many beautiful girls at that club and from my experiences there, I reckon the best way to proceed is to try and get the girl's cell phone no. and try to contact her tbe next day for a private "consultation"!
BTW a $100 tip is far too much. If can cut out the bar fine, 2,000 pesos for a 2-3 hr. session is plenty for a P. Burgos gal and if go the LA Cafe you might be able to bargain her down to even a 1000 p.It's Jools. You must spend time to the Dancer. Get their No. and you may have chance in the day time.
Bill Buxton
05-14-06, 19:10
This is a great blurb for info on banks.The metro bank will not even allow SO I WAS TOLD BY MY GF to let you have money in another location in the PI if the account was not opened at the same branch.True or not thats what she said.Sounds funny to me, she just might have wanted to jsu my cash rather than hers.
The best ATM card to have is a card with "PLUS AND CIRUS" ON the back. Some banks like metro only give you 4000p Per draw, China bank 4,000P per draw,and equetable is 5000p per draw. The BPI bank will let you have 20,000P one draw, and you only get hit for 1 transaction and one overseas charge.When you use the others the bank at home gets you each time you tap the machine 5 dollars or so.Add that up over 5-6 months and it's big money.The other way is to go inside the bank with passport,and zerox coppy of pass port, A current valid id.There you can get 50,000 if you want but do not for get the zerox or they will make you get one. The other problem is they will not allways help you get money.One day at a bank at the freeport subic they ran my card wanted 50,000 and they came back and said there was no money in the account. What's up with that,I asked. The gal said she had no idea.So uotsid I went and got in the ATM line and got my 20,000P and went back in and personally showed the girl that there was money in the account and thanks for all the help.
The problem is you must plan ahead on getting money.Allways find out about hollidays, and banking times.The best way is when there open in case you get your card stuck in the machine.Or the machines might not have any cash left by sunday that happens.Maby not in Manila but smaller cities will have this problem.The holiday problem is you better plan ahead and get your cash to carry you over 2-3 days before the closure of the banks.20,000P limit and 3-4 days with no money might find you broke half way through the weekend.
The casino was said to be a place that will charge you a small fee to get any amount you want off your card.Not sure if they are all the same only herd that about the one in subic.
NEVER TAKE TRAVELERS OF ANY KINE HERE IN PI THEY WILL NOT CASH THEM HERE.I herd a guy from Germany ***** about that at my hotel.
This is a great blurb for info on banks.The metro bank will not even allow SO I WAS TOLD BY MY GF to let you have money in another location in the PI if the account was not opened at the same branch.True or not thats what she said.Sounds funny to me, she just might have wanted to jsu my cash rather than hers.
The best ATM card to have is a card with "PLUS AND CIRUS" ON the back. Some banks like metro only give you 4000p Per draw, China bank 4,000P per draw,and equetable is 5000p per draw. The BPI bank will let you have 20,000P one draw, and you only get hit for 1 transaction and one overseas charge.When you use the others the bank at home gets you each time you tap the machine 5 dollars or so.Add that up over 5-6 months and it's big money.The other way is to go inside the bank with passport,and zerox coppy of pass port, A current valid id.There you can get 50,000 if you want but do not for get the zerox or they will make you get one. The other problem is they will not allways help you get money.One day at a bank at the freeport subic they ran my card wanted 50,000 and they came back and said there was no money in the account. What's up with that,I asked. The gal said she had no idea.So uotsid I went and got in the ATM line and got my 20,000P and went back in and personally showed the girl that there was money in the account and thanks for all the help.
The problem is you must plan ahead on getting money.Allways find out about hollidays, and banking times.The best way is when there open in case you get your card stuck in the machine.Or the machines might not have any cash left by sunday that happens.Maby not in Manila but smaller cities will have this problem.The holiday problem is you better plan ahead and get your cash to carry you over 2-3 days before the closure of the banks.20,000P limit and 3-4 days with no money might find you broke half way through the weekend.
The casino was said to be a place that will charge you a small fee to get any amount you want off your card.Not sure if they are all the same only herd that about the one in subic.
NEVER TAKE TRAVELERS OF ANY KINE HERE IN PI THEY WILL NOT CASH THEM HERE.I herd a guy from Germany ***** about that at my hotel.Bill,
During my travels to Manila i have that the HSBC auto teller in Robinson Mall near L.A. Cafe will pay out up to 40,000p (subject to yr card limit, daily draws set by yr own bank)
Never a problem with this machine any 99.9% of times has plently of money.
I first mongered when I was 19 in Costa Rica. I then mongered in South Korea at the ripe age of 23. It sucked, Korean women are beautiful but not fun. At the same age, I mongered in the Philippines. A lot. Now, at the past due age of 32, I no longer look for 19 to 21 year old girls. I want used, older, but still good looking sluts. Am I alone? Anybody?
Hobby Knob
05-15-06, 21:44
I first mongered when I was 19 in Costa Rica. I then mongered in South Korea at the ripe age of 23. It sucked, Korean women are beautiful but not fun. At the same age, I mongered in the Philippines. A lot. Now, at the past due age of 32, I no longer look for 19 to 21 year old girls. I want used, older, but still good looking sluts. Am I alone? Anybody?It depends on my mood. Sometimes I want that Hot, hard body. But I do usually end up a little unsatisfied. A seasoned veteran can be a lot more fun. Trick is to find one who is still pretty hot. There are plenty around.
I think most people make the mistake of going for the hottest looking. I actually usually avoid them.
Just my 2 cents.
Anyone have any information on a club called Nirvana. It is supposed to be in Pasig.
Thanks
This may seem like an odd request for information, but this site seems to be a gold mine for all kinds of information.
As you may well know, there are job opportunities for Filipinas that have good English language skills (esp. good pronunciation). There is the tourism industry as well as the call centers.
Does anyone know of a good English school in the Manila area?
Consider an adult, college graduate, working for a foreign owned hotel, good English skills, wants to polish those skills to get a better job and/or promotion.
Thanks,
X
Anyone have any information on a club called Nirvana. It is supposed to be in Pasig.
Thanks
Nirvana is on the Northwest corner of Taft and Buendia. Bright red neon lights. I was there late and it was primarily a dance club. However, I went there early one time (about 8pm) and girls were dancing with numbers and I noticed the VIP rooms in the back. I was with a girl but the girls came asking us to buy them drinks.
I forgot the rate but I think I posted it here a few weeks ago.
Anyone else have any other info?
In Ermita?
Nirvana is on the Northwest corner of Taft and Buendia. Bright red neon lights. I was there late and it was primarily a dance club. However, I went there early one time (about 8pm) and girls were dancing with numbers and I noticed the VIP rooms in the back. I was with a girl but the girls came asking us to buy them drinks.
I forgot the rate but I think I posted it here a few weeks ago.
Anyone else have any other info?
Was in Manila for a couple of night recently and hit EDSA with a buddy one of the nights.
Happy to report that both he and I could not have been more pleased with the girls we took out of Cotton club. No magic, just the usual "they chose us and we were smart enough not to keep looking" approach.
Mine was 23 and just a sexy hot girl - groping in the bar, and over the course of the night any door was opened. Outstanding and much the way I remember it from years ago when I was there often. The past few years have not been up to this standard and I was really pleased.
1000 piso bar fine and no discussion of money with the girl. Tipped what I though was the right amount and she seems happy with it. I was more than happy with her.
In Ermita?
I believe it is Pasay.
Anyone in the Philippines next week.
LoveAsianWhores
05-19-06, 08:33
Bill,
During my travels to Manila i have that the HSBC auto teller in Robinson Mall near L.A. Cafe will pay out up to 40,000p (subject to yr card limit, daily draws set by yr own bank)
Never a problem with this machine any 99.9% of times has plently of money.
In the past year I have had two times where my checking account was debited, but I did not receive the money from the ATM (that I know of, I used to be really bad at checking online to ensure that were no other times). This compares with 20 plus years in the US without a single ATM problem. I no longer use ATM's in the Philippines, except in an emergency, and always check online immediately afterwards to check that there was no problems.
I know this may seem out of context here, but I am contemplating a holiday later this year, and have a list complied of places I want to go. Now my question is, other than rooting hot filipino women, (not that there is anything wrong with this).......is there actually much else to actually do/ see here in the Manila, or the Phils in general?
Thanks
Anyone have any information on a club called Nirvana. It is supposed to be in Pasig.
Thanks
I am not sure of the location of Nirvana because I was not paying attention to where we were, but Im sure you will have no problem finding it. It is a pretty good sized place. There is a large dance floor and it is often packed. They play mostly hip hop dance music, but will also play some slow songs for you and your lady to get close with. When I was there it was filled with groups Koreans and a few white guys, who were seemingly on solo missions. There are many dancing girls who put on a good show. There is a male attendant in the restroom who will offer you a towel to dry your hands and then attempt to give you a quick massage for a small tip. There are also VIP rooms there, but I did not partake in the fun there since I was with my girl, but each time my girl went to the cr, at least 2 girls ran over to me and I had to chase them away since my Filipina was very jealous.
I know this may seem out of context here, but I am contemplating a holiday later this year, and have a list complied of places I want to go. Now my question is, other than rooting hot filipino women, (not that there is anything wrong with this).......is there actually much else to actually do/ see here in the Manila, or the Phils in general?
Thanks
Hi DTM:
Yes, if you want to overbridge the time between screwing one local girl after the other you can do lots of things in Manila and other parts of the country. The Philippines have much more to offer than only sexy woman! Highly recommendable is the 'Lonely Planet Philippines'. In this travel guide you will find plenty of hints in terms of sightseeing, shopping, cultural events etc.!
Have a great time there!
Hesekiels
Pete The Beat
05-21-06, 07:06
Spent 10 days there in January - not a dull moment, as there's plenty to do when you're not at LA cafe or the other bars. Intramuros is a must see and will take all day, the markets especially the huge one at Baclaran are great. I guess it depends if you're after dvds, watches, cheap clothing etc, but the time just flies by and the people at the markets will talk all day to you if you're in that kind of mind.
The malls of course are great places to pick up and they are good places to get cheap eats. I never had a dull moment and never felt threatened - I guess cos it was my first visit that it was all new to me but I will certainly be going back as every day brought something new - just be ready for that certain smile or look as you're walking around the shops and before you know it you are having coffee or something to eat with a nice little office worker who is looking for some extra pocket money. Just be careful of the ladyboys - I was amazed at how hard they were to pick, the old saying about look out for their adam's apple does not always apply!! Be very wary!
If the malls don't work, then you've still got the evening to head to the bars. Sure, on the streets you get hassled by all sorts of peddlers but I just took up a friendly attitude to them all thanked them but said no thanks and just kept moving forward - they will soon lose interest. Experience travelling around on the jeepneys, the taxis are cheap - just barter the fare up front - never a problem!
The golf courses are good and its easy to organise a game - if you're staying at a good hotel they will organise everything for you. Since we don't get a chance to shoot handguns in Australia, I went to a shooting range in Manila - expensive but great fun! The casino is only small compared to Melbourne's Crown but its still a good place to spend time and meet the locals.
I think I went with a good attitude and treated everyone I met with respect - after all you are a visitor. Just be careful and wary, there are so many good looking and willing ladies you can't miss out but just walk around and enjoy the city while you are there!
Please forgive the following seemingly newbie question, but am running out of time and need some quick help. Hopefully my report will make your patience worth while.
I've been searching the forum, without success, for about a week for some information on a good hotel close to the Friday late night/Saturday early action in Manila. I will be arriving late Friday night and will be free until about 5pm Saturday to have some fun before meeting a new Filipina who is planning to win my heart with a few days of passion. However, I would like to have something extra before I meet with her.
I've taken several trips to PI, but always with my Filipina girlfriend, however now that she is out of the picture, I'm making my first mongering trip in a long time. I have stayed at Pan Pacific, but found it to be a little too expensive, but it does have many of the things I like (safe and comforts) and I've tried the Mabuhay Manor, which is a better price and the room is OK, but no in-room safe. I really need a safe because I've heard too many horror stories about guys waking up to find their girl gone as well as cash and valuables.
I am looking for the following:
1. Girl friendly for at least 2 girls
2. In-room safe
3. Good bed (king or queen)
4. Good, strong shower with hot water.
5. Close to a place with good Friday night action and possibly something for Saturday morning (by the way, if you know of something fun for Saturday morning, let me know)
Also, if you have anything you want to add for suggestions, please PM me. I've had several trips to PI, but this is the 1st without my Filipina tagging along.
Thank you for the assistance. If I get enough information via PM, I will complie a list for our future reference.
One more thing, if you know anything about "apartment girls," please let me know. One member made a reference to these girls in a post a while back, but I have not been able to get any additional information about this option.
Nefarious
The club is on the corner of Gil Puyat and Taft Ave. Can't miss it if you're traveling down Gil Puyat from Makati. Any taxi driver knows the place anyway. And it's not in Pasig, its in Pasay.
Cebu Local
05-21-06, 15:10
Please forgive the following seemingly newbie question, but am running out of time and need some quick help. Hopefully my report will make your patience worth while.
I've been searching the forum, without success, for about a week for some information on a good hotel close to the Friday late night/Saturday early action in Manila. I will be arriving late Friday night and will be free until about 5pm Saturday to have some fun before meeting a new Filipina who is planning to win my heart with a few days of passion. However, I would like to have something extra before I meet with her.
I've taken several trips to PI, but always with my Filipina girlfriend, however now that she is out of the picture, I'm making my first mongering trip in a long time. I have stayed at Pan Pacific, but found it to be a little too expensive, but it does have many of the things I like (safe and comforts) and I've tried the Mabuhay Manor, which is a better price and the room is OK, but no in-room safe. I really need a safe because I've heard too many horror stories about guys waking up to find their girl gone as well as cash and valuables.
I am looking for the following:
1. Girl friendly for at least 2 girls
2. In-room safe
3. Good bed (king or queen)
4. Good, strong shower with hot water.
5. Close to a place with good Friday night action and possibly something for Saturday morning (by the way, if you know of something fun for Saturday morning, let me know)
Also, if you have anything you want to add for suggestions, please PM me. I've had several trips to PI, but this is the 1st without my Filipina tagging along.
Thank you for the assistance. If I get enough information via PM, I will complie a list for our future reference.
One more thing, if you know anything about "apartment girls," please let me know. One member made a reference to these girls in a post a while back, but I have not been able to get any additional information about this option.
NefariousHere are some potential places,City Garden and Oxford suites to be in the center of the Burgos action,Heritage across the street from the Edsa complex and Quezon City Imperial suites if you like the Timog and other QC Clubs.Have you surfed asia Travel,They have a good collection of Hotels.Regarding Apartment Girls,The proper term is Casa
CanContrib
05-21-06, 22:50
During my travels to Manila i have that the HSBC auto teller in Robinson Mall near L.A. Cafe will pay out up to 40,000p (subject to yr card limit, daily draws set by yr own bank)
I can confirm that.
Ditto the HSBC close to SM South Mall in Las Pinas, down and across the street.
Never a problem with this machine any 99.9% of times has plently of money.
Except when it's "offline" or otherwise broken for hours for the day or weekend.
If you need higher amounts (yes, subject to limits on your card), you can attend with your passport and supplementary pic ID at the Equitable Bank corner of Pedro Gil & Mabini (one block from Robinson Mall, Ermita). I've drawn P50,000 there and could likely have gotten more in one shot. There's another foreigner-friendly Equitable on UN Ave close to the Holiday Inn. Expect to spend between 20 minutes to 1.5 hours for a bank transaction. Avoid Mondays, Fridays, day-after-holiday, and first and middle of month days.
CanContrib
05-21-06, 23:00
...
We received your e-mail regarding your wish to open a checking account with
us. Thank you for your interest in opening your account with us. However,
we regret to inform you that your request cannot be accommodated at the
moment because you need to go to a branch to sign the necessary papers and to make an initial deposit. As such, may we suggest that you just open your account upon your visit to the Philippines.
Gary
In my limited experience, BPI is one of the easiest banks for a foreigner to open an account (see my and others postings on this topic in other areas). One must however realize that Phils is a country even more so than the "west" mired in paper-work requirements. You have to show up, and don't forget your passport, your ACR, your supplementary pic ID, photocopies of those, your 1x1 color photo, your proof of residency (Meralco or PLDT billling showing your local Phils address) ... I think that's it unless they change the rules. Then sit there and complete a bunch of forms and cards in duplicate by hand. If you're prepared you'll have your account and ATM card within the hour (or two).
Yes, I'm serious, I just helped a Pinoy brother-in-law open a new BPI account and had to run out to copy his ID and proof of address before he could even start.
You're NOT going to open an account with a Philippine bank without showing up in person with all that here, unless thing radically change overnight, which isn't very likely - unless of course you have a Big Bunch of Money to have someone wave at the "right person" to expedite things for you. Spend enough money and everything can be done. That's still much harder if you're not already here, otherwise just meet the "requirements".
My trivial advice would be, just come, bring some US$ and a bunch of valid credit cards, and deal with your banking needs on the spot. Much easier.
[QUOTE=photocopies of those, your 1x1 color photo, your proof of residency (Meralco or PLDT billling showing your local Phils address) ... I think that's it unless they change the rules. Then sit there and complete a bunch of forms and cards in duplicate by hand. If you're prepared you'll have your account and ATM card within the hour (or two).
Yes, I'm serious, I just helped a Pinoy brother-in-law open a new BPI account and had to run out to copy his ID and proof of address before he could even start.
QUOTE]
I live in NZ but was able to open at the Ayala branch in Cebu, I just had to provide a local mailing address. But BPI is great once you are able to log on thry the net to ccheck your bank accounts activity.
I transfer overnight from NZ and its there the next morning apart from losing a little in the transaction and currency fluvuations. i pay with NZD to buy USD and then ends up in my BPI account in PHP.
Fred C Dobbs
05-22-06, 06:46
I have been trying to open an account from the US with the Bank of the Philippine Islands. I filled out the application and they answered me saying I would be contacted by an afffiliated bank here in the US. No one contacted me and I don't think they will. No matter, I plan on getting a SRRVisa and will need to open a term deposit account in the Philippines next time I am there. I have been communicating with PSBank on this and will just go ahead an open a checking account at the same time as I open the term deposit.
CanContrib
05-22-06, 23:23
I have been trying to open an account from the US with the Bank of the Philippine Islands. I filled out the application and they answered me saying I would be contacted by an afffiliated bank here in the US. No one contacted me and I don't think they will. ...
You expect someone to personally followup with you, especially overseas, unless you personally paid them to make it worth their while and they surely expect to see you again for more? Othwise don't count on it. "Customer Service" here is "who you know" and "who you pay" or more importantly both.
CanContrib
05-26-06, 11:32
Regarding Apartment Girls,The proper term is Casa
Ok, now I'm curious, what do you and the other poster mean by Casa (aka "apartment") girls?
Cebu Local
05-26-06, 22:31
Ok, now I'm curious, what do you and the other poster mean by Casa (aka "apartment") girls?
girls you get at a house aka Casa,The places you go to in Cavite are casas or euphemisms for brothels where you take out,unlike MP s or KTV which you can "dine in"Hope this clarifies things.
CanContrib
05-27-06, 00:03
girls you get at a house aka Casa,The places you go to in Cavite are casas or euphemisms for brothels where you take out,unlike MP s or KTV which you can "dine in"Hope this clarifies things.
Talaga! Sige, marunong ko na! Here I thought I was going to learn about something new! So I've been wise to this all along? Sige. Insert smiley.
I do remember a few years ago with I was a lot greener in Phils, a pimp I was friendly to took me to a "casa" on Del Pilar about a block or so north of LA Cafe, same side though you'd never know it's there if not taken there. I was totally lost back then. I had told him I only had about P500 total and he said walang problema. Through the front door, ok'd past the dude there, upstairs, introduced to the "manager" who trotted out more than a dozen quite young girls in school uniforms for me to choose from. In retrospect I now know they would be college (that's younger here!) girls "working" in the evening to pay their tuition etc. We had a beer and I too-cautiously bailed out and went home to wait for my gf (now wife) to come home to me. I should have stayed and parted with the rest of my 500, but I was too green and too careful. Then again, I was going home to someone much more enticing and worth being home to great. Obviously it's an evening place, since the girls would all be in college daytime. Someday I should try to go back there, if it's still there. If not, well, cross the street and let the school girls at the "new" Amazonia hit on you.
Xtorted Decay
05-29-06, 06:43
Okay, just got back from 2 weeks in Manila. I will do my best to keep this short and sweet. This was my first time out of the U.S., but I'm only 23 so I don't think i've procrastinated TOO long with my traveling. One word of advice to anyone who, like me, is an inexperienced traveler, if at all possible go with a friend. I went with an office mate who I've known for a few years and that made things 10 times easier. I had no idea what I was getting into, really. His family treated me like one of their own, if not better. I have to say that most filipinos seem to be extremely generous and caring people, unless you're in a bar where everyone seems to have their hands out as soon as they spot the white man.
I hope you don't mind my random observations. Again this was only a 2 week trip so its not like I'm an expert, these are just the impressions I was given.
Like I said I went with a friend who is still there visiting family. It amazes me how close filipinos are to their family, mostly I think because I come from a broken home and family doesn't really mean much of anything to me. As a result, though, I didn't really get to do much mongering. First event was at a club in Malate called 'Absynthe'. I don't know what you call this kind of club, there are girls that dance on stage, and if you want to buy them a 300 peso drink they will sit with you and you can talk to them. I chose a girl who was maybe a 7 or an 8, definatly the prettiest girl there and the only one I saw that didn't look like she was under 18. She later confirmed for me that most of the girls dancing there were around 16 or 17. Sat with her for a while, played it cool, I wasn't sure if she was pro or not, or how things work at a bar like this, but she started holding my hand, leaning against me, all of that sort of thing. My friends got the impression that she liked me, but I wasnt sure if she was a pro or not, like I said, so I figured it was all part of the sell. Got her number before we left, she was a very intelligent girl and we got along. Ended up having a rendezvous later. Only spent that 300 pesos on her total. Was going to take her with me to boracay but she said she had to work, which my associates informed me meant she wanted me to pay her to go with on top of giving her a free vacation. Didn't speak to her after that.
Other than that, I also checked out Amazonia and LA Cafe of course. LA Cafe is worth seeing just for the phenomenon that it is. You won't be in there longer than 5 minutes before girls start clinging to you. I've never been so blatantly groped in a private place by a near stranger before. It was fun. I have to say that I liked amazonia more though. I don't know if all the girls there are pro or not, but there was way less hustle, and I thought the body painting was cool. I also enjoyed the music more. Its a great place to take a girl you meet at LA cafe, in my opinion. Prices at LA cafe seemed to be around 2000 pesos for all night, though I found out later you can barter down to 1500 without much trouble. Got one down to 1k but either the choice of girl or the low price caused a dramatic reduction in GFE value so I had her leave fairly early.
A word about the GFE in the philippines....the girls from LA Cafe with the exception of that one were 10x better than any girlfriend I've ever had. Also, I found it extremely easy to hook up with girls in clubs. A lot of them seemed to be after one night encounters, which surprised me because I had heard so much about how conservative filipinas are. I guess there's also another side to everything.
That was roughly the extent of my mongering. One of the guys we were spending time with knew the owners of quite a few strip clubs, but I didn't really get into that. I think it came to around 3300 pesos when all was said and done if you wanted to vip one of the girls. They were generally very pretty, but the little time I spent talking to them...they weren't much different from any strippers I've talked to here in america. I've never really enjoyed strippers, so maybe I was a little jaded, but it just wasn't my thing. I think next trip, though, I will give it another shot. I didn't try any MP's either unfortunatly. LA Cafe was just too much fun and too much cheaper. What can I say, I am a frugal guy.
One word about boracay, my biggest mistake was not taking someone there. I figured I could meet someone there, and I did meet quite a few very pretty girls, but it was very different from manila. They were all from provinces I had never heard of, and getting to know them seemed a very formal thing. I felt like I was on trial with their family/friends, and God forbid you try to initiate any physical contact on the first meeting. I didn't have time for all that nonsense. Others may have more luck there, it could be that I was just unlucky. I also wasn't there on a weekend which could also be a contributing factor. Did get hit on by a lot of gay guys though. I thought living in los angeles would make me immune to that but LA's got nothing on what I experienced there. Not that I have a problem with anyone thats gay, I just didn't expect it there.
I can add a lot of commentary on what I thought of the philippines in general if its desired, but I feel like it would be off topic for this forum. If anyone is interested though, let me know, especially if there are any westerners who live there now. I would be interested in their take on the place in general.
I stayed at a hotel called the 'Fersal'. Its in sta. cruz and I never found one taxi driver that had heard of it. Its actually a pretty nice place, has hot water, cable, security, all that stuff. Rooms are clean but a little on the small side. 1,300 per night for the regular rooms with a 10% discount for booking a full week, more of a discount if you book a month. I debating hooking up with the girls at the desk but wasn't sure if it would be a good idea. Could have gotten more of a discount maybe, but then I may not have been so welcome to bring girls up to my room.
Anyway, my first report, hope you enjoy it.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Great report Xtorted Decay, all who haven't check out the Philippines yet should read this. A report from eyes of a young man that's been to the Philippines for the first time, I'm sure it's not the last. Excellent observation young man. You have demostrated that you are an asset to this board and I'm sure you will be adding many report in future of your trips to the PI. At age 23, you have a lifetime of trips waiting. Those who are thinking about a trip to the PI this report should make up your mind.
Sound like you were smart and RTFF and did your intel before you went in, good planning always pays off. I'm sure your next trip will always be better than the last.
Thanks for the great report.
RaZZoR
Okay, just got back from 2 weeks in Manila. I will do my best to keep this short and sweet. This was my first time out of the U.S., but I'm only 23 so I don't think i've procrastinated TOO long with my traveling. One word of advice to anyone who, like me, is an inexperienced traveler, if at all possible go with a friend. I went with an office mate who I've known for a few years and that made things 10 times easier. I had no idea what I was getting into, really. His family treated me like one of their own, if not better. I have to say that most filipinos seem to be extremely generous and caring people, unless you're in a bar where everyone seems to have their hands out as soon as they spot the white man.
I hope you don't mind my random observations. Again this was only a 2 week trip so its not like I'm an expert, these are just the impressions I was given.
Like I said I went with a friend who is still there visiting family. It amazes me how close filipinos are to their family, mostly I think because I come from a broken home and family doesn't really mean much of anything to me. As a result, though, I didn't really get to do much mongering. First event was at a club in Malate called 'Absynthe'. I don't know what you call this kind of club, there are girls that dance on stage, and if you want to buy them a 300 peso drink they will sit with you and you can talk to them. I chose a girl who was maybe a 7 or an 8, definatly the prettiest girl there and the only one I saw that didn't look like she was under 18. She later confirmed for me that most of the girls dancing there were around 16 or 17. Sat with her for a while, played it cool, I wasn't sure if she was pro or not, or how things work at a bar like this, but she started holding my hand, leaning against me, all of that sort of thing. My friends got the impression that she liked me, but I wasnt sure if she was a pro or not, like I said, so I figured it was all part of the sell. Got her number before we left, she was a very intelligent girl and we got along. Ended up having a rendezvous later. Only spent that 300 pesos on her total. Was going to take her with me to boracay but she said she had to work, which my associates informed me meant she wanted me to pay her to go with on top of giving her a free vacation. Didn't speak to her after that.
Other than that, I also checked out Amazonia and LA Cafe of course. LA Cafe is worth seeing just for the phenomenon that it is. You won't be in there longer than 5 minutes before girls start clinging to you. I've never been so blatantly groped in a private place by a near stranger before. It was fun. I have to say that I liked amazonia more though. I don't know if all the girls there are pro or not, but there was way less hustle, and I thought the body painting was cool. I also enjoyed the music more. Its a great place to take a girl you meet at LA cafe, in my opinion. Prices at LA cafe seemed to be around 2000 pesos for all night, though I found out later you can barter down to 1500 without much trouble. Got one down to 1k but either the choice of girl or the low price caused a dramatic reduction in GFE value so I had her leave fairly early.
A word about the GFE in the philippines....the girls from LA Cafe with the exception of that one were 10x better than any girlfriend I've ever had. Also, I found it extremely easy to hook up with girls in clubs. A lot of them seemed to be after one night encounters, which surprised me because I had heard so much about how conservative filipinas are. I guess there's also another side to everything.
That was roughly the extent of my mongering. One of the guys we were spending time with knew the owners of quite a few strip clubs, but I didn't really get into that. I think it came to around 3300 pesos when all was said and done if you wanted to vip one of the girls. They were generally very pretty, but the little time I spent talking to them...they weren't much different from any strippers I've talked to here in america. I've never really enjoyed strippers, so maybe I was a little jaded, but it just wasn't my thing. I think next trip, though, I will give it another shot. I didn't try any MP's either unfortunatly. LA Cafe was just too much fun and too much cheaper. What can I say, I am a frugal guy.
One word about boracay, my biggest mistake was not taking someone there. I figured I could meet someone there, and I did meet quite a few very pretty girls, but it was very different from manila. They were all from provinces I had never heard of, and getting to know them seemed a very formal thing. I felt like I was on trial with their family/friends, and God forbid you try to initiate any physical contact on the first meeting. I didn't have time for all that nonsense. Others may have more luck there, it could be that I was just unlucky. I also wasn't there on a weekend which could also be a contributing factor. Did get hit on by a lot of gay guys though. I thought living in los angeles would make me immune to that but LA's got nothing on what I experienced there. Not that I have a problem with anyone thats gay, I just didn't expect it there.
I can add a lot of commentary on what I thought of the philippines in general if its desired, but I feel like it would be off topic for this forum. If anyone is interested though, let me know, especially if there are any westerners who live there now. I would be interested in their take on the place in general.
I stayed at a hotel called the 'Fersal'. Its in sta. cruz and I never found one taxi driver that had heard of it. Its actually a pretty nice place, has hot water, cable, security, all that stuff. Rooms are clean but a little on the small side. 1,300 per night for the regular rooms with a 10% discount for booking a full week, more of a discount if you book a month. I debating hooking up with the girls at the desk but wasn't sure if it would be a good idea. Could have gotten more of a discount maybe, but then I may not have been so welcome to bring girls up to my room.
Anyway, my first report, hope you enjoy it.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Bill Buxton
05-30-06, 16:15
You can do all the intel you want but you must get the guts to go over. You will find that all the lessions you will learn will cost you some money. I have ben home for 2 months after staying 6 months in the P. I. I had never stayed in another country. Everything I learned was from personal experance, not all good advice from others. Remember what works for one guy will be a problem for another. There are many reasons that guys from around the globe go to the P. I. Girls must be first reason. The other is the great difference in exchange rates.
The overall beauty of the country will not be seen in Manila from a hotel window. The only way to see the nicer things here is to get away from the city lights. You take a cab or a bus, this is cheep, and easy. The taxi drivers smell blood in the water when they see a foreign person on the street. The only thing I would say is never forget to tell the driver to use the meter!
The bus deal is cheep also, less than ten U. S. Dollars will get you so far away from Manila that you think you are in another country. The victory liner service is as good as any big bus service in the U. S. The great thing here is you will not have to worry about trouble because they will not stop in bad areas. The average first timer is not gonna travel much but it is safe to use public trans. You will never get to see things if you stay around the city, and you can get and have a tour guide with you from any gal you ask. Even the hardest bar gal knows that she is better off showing a first time guy around the country than she is getting groped by several guys a night in the bar.
Ask and you will be surprised, at how many gals will want to line up and be your personal guide. After all you can never go wrong with a person looking after you every need. The cost is up to you, you can get meals outside minils for 2-4 dollars each. Guys do not know that Burgos st. Is every bit as expensive as the general areas in the states. Food is the same hotels the same price, and gals are high priced here also.
Travel outside manila go to subic, or other foreigner friendly places, the girls are everywhere waiting with bated breath.
B. B.
Okay, just got back from 2 weeks in Manila. I will do my best to keep this short and sweet. This was my first time out of the U.S., but I'm only 23 so I don't think i've procrastinated TOO long with my traveling. One word of advice to anyone who, like me, is an inexperienced traveler, if at all possible go with a friend. I went with an office mate who I've known for a few years and that made things 10 times easier. I had no idea what I was getting into, really. His family treated me like one of their own, if not better. I have to say that most filipinos seem to be extremely generous and caring people, unless you're in a bar where everyone seems to have their hands out as soon as they spot the white man.
I hope you don't mind my random observations. Again this was only a 2 week trip so its not like I'm an expert, these are just the impressions I was given.
Like I said I went with a friend who is still there visiting family. It amazes me how close filipinos are to their family, mostly I think because I come from a broken home and family doesn't really mean much of anything to me. As a result, though, I didn't really get to do much mongering. First event was at a club in Malate called 'Absynthe'. I don't know what you call this kind of club, there are girls that dance on stage, and if you want to buy them a 300 peso drink they will sit with you and you can talk to them. I chose a girl who was maybe a 7 or an 8, definatly the prettiest girl there and the only one I saw that didn't look like she was under 18. She later confirmed for me that most of the girls dancing there were around 16 or 17. Sat with her for a while, played it cool, I wasn't sure if she was pro or not, or how things work at a bar like this, but she started holding my hand, leaning against me, all of that sort of thing. My friends got the impression that she liked me, but I wasnt sure if she was a pro or not, like I said, so I figured it was all part of the sell. Got her number before we left, she was a very intelligent girl and we got along. Ended up having a rendezvous later. Only spent that 300 pesos on her total. Was going to take her with me to boracay but she said she had to work, which my associates informed me meant she wanted me to pay her to go with on top of giving her a free vacation. Didn't speak to her after that.
Other than that, I also checked out Amazonia and LA Cafe of course. LA Cafe is worth seeing just for the phenomenon that it is. You won't be in there longer than 5 minutes before girls start clinging to you. I've never been so blatantly groped in a private place by a near stranger before. It was fun. I have to say that I liked amazonia more though. I don't know if all the girls there are pro or not, but there was way less hustle, and I thought the body painting was cool. I also enjoyed the music more. Its a great place to take a girl you meet at LA cafe, in my opinion. Prices at LA cafe seemed to be around 2000 pesos for all night, though I found out later you can barter down to 1500 without much trouble. Got one down to 1k but either the choice of girl or the low price caused a dramatic reduction in GFE value so I had her leave fairly early.
A word about the GFE in the philippines....the girls from LA Cafe with the exception of that one were 10x better than any girlfriend I've ever had. Also, I found it extremely easy to hook up with girls in clubs. A lot of them seemed to be after one night encounters, which surprised me because I had heard so much about how conservative filipinas are. I guess there's also another side to everything.
That was roughly the extent of my mongering. One of the guys we were spending time with knew the owners of quite a few strip clubs, but I didn't really get into that. I think it came to around 3300 pesos when all was said and done if you wanted to vip one of the girls. They were generally very pretty, but the little time I spent talking to them...they weren't much different from any strippers I've talked to here in america. I've never really enjoyed strippers, so maybe I was a little jaded, but it just wasn't my thing. I think next trip, though, I will give it another shot. I didn't try any MP's either unfortunatly. LA Cafe was just too much fun and too much cheaper. What can I say, I am a frugal guy.
One word about boracay, my biggest mistake was not taking someone there. I figured I could meet someone there, and I did meet quite a few very pretty girls, but it was very different from manila. They were all from provinces I had never heard of, and getting to know them seemed a very formal thing. I felt like I was on trial with their family/friends, and God forbid you try to initiate any physical contact on the first meeting. I didn't have time for all that nonsense. Others may have more luck there, it could be that I was just unlucky. I also wasn't there on a weekend which could also be a contributing factor. Did get hit on by a lot of gay guys though. I thought living in los angeles would make me immune to that but LA's got nothing on what I experienced there. Not that I have a problem with anyone thats gay, I just didn't expect it there.
I can add a lot of commentary on what I thought of the philippines in general if its desired, but I feel like it would be off topic for this forum. If anyone is interested though, let me know, especially if there are any westerners who live there now. I would be interested in their take on the place in general.
I stayed at a hotel called the 'Fersal'. Its in sta. cruz and I never found one taxi driver that had heard of it. Its actually a pretty nice place, has hot water, cable, security, all that stuff. Rooms are clean but a little on the small side. 1,300 per night for the regular rooms with a 10% discount for booking a full week, more of a discount if you book a month. I debating hooking up with the girls at the desk but wasn't sure if it would be a good idea. Could have gotten more of a discount maybe, but then I may not have been so welcome to bring girls up to my room.
Anyway, my first report, hope you enjoy it.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.I too visited the Phils for the first time when I was 23. That was back in 99. But, I was fucking everything in site. I was a walking hardon. Whenever I visit Manila, the first 24 hours I probably squirt 6-8 times with at least 6 different women. Its like a crackhead getting his smoke on after a dryspell.
Fog Ducker
06-01-06, 02:14
I do remember a few years ago when I was a lot greener in Phils, a pimp I was friendly with took me to a "casa" on Del Pilar about a block or so north of LA Cafe, same side though I wonder if you mean south of LA Cafe, just across from Amazonia. I was in Manila in March staying at the Executive Plaza. There is a tout that sits on a stool in front of the 7-11 right next to the hotel. I came back from the LA Cafe one early evening by myself as the pickings were slim and he told me of this casa a few minutes away. Anyway I went with him along Del Pilar and a few doors before LA Cafe on the same side of the road. You walk in this door and then turn left and then right up a short flight of steps into this large room on your right. There were about 25 girls sitting against a wall and the tout introduces me to this guy who tells me to have a look and take my time. They were from 6 to 8's and were 2,000 pesos for all night.
The girl I took did not really speak much, gave a decent but not great BBBJ but was a tremendous fuck and seemed to really enjoy fucking.
CanContrib
06-02-06, 07:21
I wonder if you mean south of LA Cafe, just across from Amazonia. I was in Manila in March staying at the Executive Plaza. There is a tout that sits on a stool in front of the 7-11 right next to the hotel. I came back from the LA Cafe one early evening by myself as the pickings were slim and he told me of this casa a few minutes away. Anyway I went with him along Del Pilar and a few doors before LA Cafe on the same side of the road. You walk in this door and then turn left and then right up a short flight of steps into this large room on your right. There were about 25 girls sitting against a wall and the tout introduces me to this guy who tells me to have a look and take my time. They were from 6 to 8's and were 2,000 pesos for all night.
The girl I took did not really speak much, gave a decent but not great BBBJ but was a tremendous fuck and seemed to really enjoy fucking.
Perhaps you meant to write *north* of LA Cafe (towards Amazonia), since south is the other direction towards Pedro Gil.
From your description, that's very likely the same place, though of course one would expect the asking price to have tripled as has everything else in Malate the last few years. Thanks for posting your update.
Fog Ducker
06-03-06, 15:32
Perhaps you meant to write *north* of LA Cafe (towards Amazonia), since south is the other direction towards Pedro Gil.You are right. I stand corrected.
A lot of fellow mongers think casa's are a waste of time for the extra costs but for not a bit more you can dispense with the bs and hit and miss at the freelance bars. I haven't seen a 9 or 10 at a casa yet but they consistently have 6-8's and their attitudes are great. Whoever you choose WILL go with you unlike the Edsa bars, etc and I have never drawn a blank yet.
I still enjoy and prefer the chase at the bars but when the pickings are slim I know where to go !
CanContrib
06-04-06, 23:47
You are right. I stand corrected.
A lot of fellow mongers think casa's are a waste of time for the extra costs but for not a bit more you can dispense with the bs and hit and miss at the freelance bars. I haven't seen a 9 or 10 at a casa yet but they consistently have 6-8's and their attitudes are great. Whoever you choose WILL go with you unlike the Edsa bars, etc and I have never drawn a blank yet. I still enjoy and prefer the chase at the bars but when the pickings are slim I know where to go !
Extra cost? I've had more than a few wonderful (girl saying in Tagalog) "no I don't want to stop" repeated gf experiences at one particular casa I know and with beer, room, and GFE I would typically spend less than P1000. for as long as I might reasonablly want "short time". Thereafter get a cell# and spend eveb less "labas susunod" (or more, depending on how much you like your new gf). Of course if you drag out the "relationship" then you reasonably expect her "needs" to become important.
Not of interest to someone who's here for a few hours or a few days or perhaps even only a few weeks, but beyond that casa's are both an assured no-frills quickie and a source of long term gf's, especially if it's out in the open where you can let passer-by non-casa girls hit on you and give your their cell #s. If you're sitting in a casa, girls passing by aren't going to be terribly confused as to your needs.
Depending on one's location, bars are a MUCH more expensive choice, even if you know that you can enjoy some cutie's internals for one-thousand until closing time in very cramped quarters "may daming lamok". There I'm talking about rural bars; if in metro manila your cost "sa quarto" is much higher though you might escape mosquitoes, without even mentioning the foolishness of "bar-fines" in the wrong places. While not the "casa" we've been discussing in this thread, I've found real (as much as you can expect long-term) gf's in more rural casas. I only wish I had time away from "home" to enjoy all the results all the time.
Some of the 'gf's do understand directions to come and see me way out here, since a lot of them *are* from here (outside of metro manila), though of course I always provide a few extra pesos for "transportation" when they come to me just to spend time with me.
LoveAsianWhores
06-06-06, 13:46
So last Saturday was to be my last field trip for maybe two months, so I thought I had better make the most of it. I'd been out almost every night for the past three weeks, so I also felt that I didn't have to barfine a girl that night, but I also knew that I wouldn't stop trying until early the next morning.
Got my regular start at about 8:00 at EDSA. Checked out all the bars there until about 10:00. Cotton Club had been very lucky for me as of late, but I have already barfined all of the cute girls there, some multiple times, and I found nothing new tonight. Also, many of the girls are returning to school, so the really hot "need my tuition money" ones are harder to find. Last weekend was really great as it was the last weekend for girls to make their tuition.
Headed over to LA Cafe. Didn't find anying interesting there. There was a small fire there about 11:00, and you should have seen the place empty out in a hurry. Wouldn't want to get stuck there in a big one, so I just headed for the door.
Decided to check out Stingfellows accross the street. This is the old Jurassic. Big improvement! A gogo bar based on the Angeles City Model. Everything is black, with lots of florescent painting on the walls and black lights. The selection was OK, and the barfine was $1,600, which also included 3 ladies drinks. Even had the requisite cherry girl with her sister looking out for her. As I have said before, Ermita is really picking up and now has two gogobars and three freelancer bars, plus all the Jap places if that is your thing. Since the gogo bar taboo has now been broken twice here without issue, and there is a lot of real estate for rent here at dirt cheap prices, can it be long until the place returns to its glory days of the 70's. Should be fun to see what happens in the coming years.
Anyway, still hadn't found anything so decided to head to Burgoss. First bar I walked into was Blush. I know the mamasan and the owner here, and she immediately sends over a girl. WOW! This chick was really hot, and so very nice. I got a boner in about a minute, which was my first one of the night. In fact, I've been with so many girls by now that I rarely make a conscous decision about who I will bang on a given night. I just let my dick decide, and have generally been quite satisfied with his choices.
The nice thing about Blush is that it is the only bar I know of with full size hotel type rooms upstairs. Now its not quite Victoria Court, but the room is big, clean, decent bathroom, and a big bed. The short time price is 1,000P, plus 3,000 for the bar and 2,000 for the girl. It's no bargain, but can be quite convenient.
I asked her how long she had been working there and she said it was her first day back after a month absense. She worked there 3 days previously, but had a problem with a customer and had to leave. "What happend" I asked. She said he gave her some ecstacy and she couldn't eat or sleap properly for a week, and needed a month before feeling comfortable about returning to work. Now, I've taken X with many bar girls without ever having a problem, so I figured that she must have had some bad stuff. "Did you take whole one" I asked (I usually give a girl a quarter if she is a newbe, maybe a third or a half if she has done it before). She asked me what I meant. I explained that she should have taken a lot less then a whole pill. She then says "but I took three". HOLY SHIT. What kind of moron gives a bargirl 3 pills? What posible reason could there be. You are going to get laid anyway, so why would you want to freak someoue out like that. What if she goes crazy and the police come. There is no way of getting out of a trip to jail if they figure out you gave a girl an OD of drugs.
Anyway, I take her upstairs for a session. Maybe the best girl I had in this three week excursion. Isn't it funny how you always find the best one on your last day.
Bill Buxton
06-06-06, 14:31
So last Saturday was to be my last field trip for maybe two months, so I thought I had better make the most of it. I'd been out almost every night for the past three weeks, so I also felt that I didn't have to barfine a girl that night, but I also knew that I wouldn't stop trying until early the next morning.
Got my regular start at about 8:00 at EDSA. Checked out all the bars there until about 10:00. Cotton Club had been very lucky for me as of late, but I have already barfined all of the cute girls there, some multiple times, and I found nothing new tonight. Also, many of the girls are returning to school, so the really hot "need my tuition money" ones are harder to find. Last weekend was really great as it was the last weekend for girls to make their tuition.
Headed over to LA Cafe. Didn't find anying interesting there. There was a small fire there about 11:00, and you should have seen the place empty out in a hurry. Wouldn't want to get stuck there in a big one, so I just headed for the door.
Decided to check out Stingfellows accross the street. This is the old Jurassic. Big improvement! A gogo bar based on the Angeles City Model. Everything is black, with lots of florescent painting on the walls and black lights. The selection was OK, and the barfine was $1,600, which also included 3 ladies drinks. Even had the requisite cherry girl with her sister looking out for her. As I have said before, Ermita is really picking up and now has two gogobars and three freelancer bars, plus all the Jap places if that is your thing. Since the gogo bar taboo has now been broken twice here without issue, and there is a lot of real estate for rent here at dirt cheap prices, can it be long until the place returns to its glory days of the 70's. Should be fun to see what happens in the coming years.
Anyway, still hadn't found anything so decided to head to Burgoss. First bar I walked into was Blush. I know the mamasan and the owner here, and she immediately sends over a girl. WOW! This chick was really hot, and so very nice. I got a boner in about a minute, which was my first one of the night. In fact, I've been with so many girls by now that I rarely make a conscous decision about who I will bang on a given night. I just let my dick decide, and have generally been quite satisfied with his choices.
The nice thing about Blush is that it is the only bar I know of with full size hotel type rooms upstairs. Now its not quite Victoria Court, but the room is big, clean, decent bathroom, and a big bed. The short time price is 1,000P, plus 3,000 for the bar and 2,000 for the girl. It's no bargain, but can be quite convenient.
I asked her how long she had been working there and she said it was her first day back after a month absense. She worked there 3 days previously, but had a problem with a customer and had to leave. "What happend" I asked. She said he gave her some ecstacy and she couldn't eat or sleap properly for a week, and needed a month before feeling comfortable about returning to work. Now, I've taken X with many bar girls without ever having a problem, so I figured that she must have had some bad stuff. "Did you take whole one" I asked (I usually give a girl a quarter if she is a newbe, maybe a third or a half if she has done it before). She asked me what I meant. I explained that she should have taken a lot less then a whole pill. She then says "but I took three". HOLY SHIT. What kind of moron gives a bargirl 3 pills? What posible reason could there be. You are going to get laid anyway, so why would you want to freak someoue out like that. What if she goes crazy and the police come. There is no way of getting out of a trip to jail if they figure out you gave a girl an OD of drugs.
Anyway, I take her upstairs for a session. Maybe the best girl I had in this three week excursion. Isn't it funny how you always find the best one on your last day.
With the way the law is here why would you, or anyone be in the drug scene over there??? The punishment for drugs in the P.I. is death!Or big money to get off the hook.Not my business, to each his own, but that's not a smart proposition here or anywhere else for that matter getting yourself a set of crosshairs right between the eyes.
There are drugs all over the place there but who wants that problem to pop up when you already know its a big time crime in this country? Like I said do what you want but that's not using your brain that's inviting trouble on a grand scale.If caught YOU are the atm that's gonna get tapped not the gal with you.And do you think You might or could be the token foreigner that's used as the new poster child for a zero tolerance drug law.
I am not judging anyone, only saying that if that's what you like do,do it at home and not here in the P.I. You are the example always,and you have or can get the money to pay for your play in the eyes looking at you there.
Use your big head,Think First.
B.B.
I had the pleasure last week of meeting up with Guinness and Senator Dashing Don. The Don is a veteran monger who has met many members on this board and I would recommend his company to anybody who visits S.E. Asia or South America. He knows how to work the ladies.
As an example, at one establishment he told the Mamasan to bring him a “new” girl. Within seconds she brought him a doe eyed young pretty lady. The Mamasan said the only problem was that she spoke no English and did not know how to use an elevator. The Don looked at Guinness and me with a confident smile as he knew he was in love for the night. I’m sure he taught her a few other things that evening besides how to use an elevator… more news when I get over my jet lag.
CanContrib
06-06-06, 23:56
with the way the law is here why would you, or anyone be in the drug scene over there??? the punishment for drugs in the p.i. is death!or big money to get off the hook.not my business, to each his own, but that's not a smart proposition here or anywhere else for that matter getting yourself a set of crosshairs right between the eyes.
aking gandang pnp kaibigang told me straight out "if you have to kill someone, lose the gun and call me imnediately, no problem. if it has anything to do with drugs don"t call me because then i can't help you and don't even know you."
i really hope i never have to shoot someone in self-defence and sure as shit i have zero interest in drugs here. one would have to be a total idiot. don't even think about it. even big money might not be enough. you;d be better off being taken away on kiddie-[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charges and you already know that's a very bad thing. drug suspects seem to wind up dead "trying to escape" more likely than in court, about on par with violent insurgents. when it's a drug issue, even buying senators is probably not enough, even if you had the connections and opportunity, so don't even go there. just don"t !!!
CanContrib
06-07-06, 00:10
She said he gave her some ecstacy and she couldn't eat or sleap properly for a week, and needed a month before feeling comfortable about returning to work. Now, I've taken X with many bar girls without ever having a problem, so I figured that she must have had some bad stuff. "Did you take whole one" I asked (I usually give a girl a quarter if she is a newbe, maybe a third or a half if she has done it before). She asked me what I meant. I explained that she should have taken a lot less then a whole pill. She then says "but I took three". HOLY SHIT. What kind of moron gives a bargirl 3 pills? What posible reason could there be. You are going to get laid anyway, so why would you want to freak someoue out like that. What if she goes crazy and the police come. There is no way of getting out of a trip to jail if they figure out you gave a girl an OD of drugs.
You asked and answered your own rhetorical question - only a moronic loser would give someone drugs. Feed them real food and lots of beer instead and know when to take them out of the bar.
I met a previous acquaintance a while ago, she told me her friend had given her some "ectsasy" and she was sorely regretting having trusted her (female) friend. She asked me to just get her out of there to some place she could be with me and then sleep safely. I did, she did (very well given her condition, I'd rather have had her straight), and I tucked her in and left. I hope she's ok, haven't seen her since though I've not been back to LA since then. I worried the next few days "what if she OD's on that shit some fool gave her". Few months later no one has come to get me for some shit her "friend" pulled on her so I guess and hope she's fine after sleeping it off. Still in retrospect drugs, no matter who provides them are a VERY BAD SCENE in Philippines. Run away fast, as I will next time I have any inkling of such. I should have that time, just to be safe. It's just not worth a free great lay. You don't even want to be in the same place.
LoveAsianWhores
06-07-06, 07:07
I have to completely disagree with your statement that if you do drugs, do it at home. First, the Philippines is my home. Second, the Philippines is one of the only countries in the world that you can buy your way out of any drug (or other legal problem for that matter) with money. Try bribing a prosecutor in the US! The incarceration rate in the Philippines is 3 per thousand. The incarceration rate in the US is 85 per thousand. And a very high percentage of those 85 are in for drug crimes, many for merely using drugs. How many foreigners are in Philippine jails for drug related charges? Except for some big time Asian traffickers, probably very, very few, if any. Yes, in the event you were caught you would have to pay a bribe, but the bribe would still be a lot less than hiring an attorney in the US, and at least the bribe gets you out of trouble. No guarantee with an attorney. I have lived in the Philippines for a while and have many expat friends that have lived here over 30 years. Every one to them will tell you that they are far more afraid of law enforcement in the west then here in the Philippines. I think a lot of people throw the Philippines in with Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia etc when considering the police and jucicial system. The Philippines is unique however. It is ABSOLUTELY corrupt from from the police to the judges. You could reasonably argue that you should stay away from drugs to avoid trouble, but if you do chose to use drugs, I can think of no safer country (excpet maybe Holland) to use them. One of the reasons that I choose to live in the Philippines is that I can pretty much do anything that I want.
And anyway, lets say that I agree with you that there is a huge risk with doing drugs here. Have you ever had a whole night of ecstacy induced sex with a bargirl? If I was going to take a big risk over something, I can think of nothing that was more worth the risk.
With the way the law is here why would you, or anyone be in the drug scene over there??? The punishment for drugs in the P.I. is death!Or big money to get off the hook.Not my business, to each his own, but that's not a smart proposition here or anywhere else for that matter getting yourself a set of crosshairs right between the eyes.
There are drugs all over the place there but who wants that problem to pop up when you already know its a big time crime in this country? Like I said do what you want but that's not using your brain that's inviting trouble on a grand scale.If caught YOU are the atm that's gonna get tapped not the gal with you.And do you think You might or could be the token foreigner that's used as the new poster child for a zero tolerance drug law.
I am not judging anyone, only saying that if that's what you like do,do it at home and not here in the P.I. You are the example always,and you have or can get the money to pay for your play in the eyes looking at you there.
Use your big head,Think First.
B.B.
LoveAsianWhores
06-07-06, 07:25
aking gandang pnp kaibigang told me straight out "if you have to kill someone, lose the gun and call me imnediately, no problem. if it has anything to do with drugs don"t call me because then i can't help you and don't even know you."
i really hope i never have to shoot someone in self-defence and sure as shit i have zero interest in drugs here. one would have to be a total idiot. don't even think about it. even big money might not be enough. you;d be better off being taken away on kiddie-[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) charges and you already know that's a very bad thing. drug suspects seem to wind up dead "trying to escape" more likely than in court, about on par with violent insurgents. when it's a drug issue, even buying senators is probably not enough, even if you had the connections and opportunity, so don't even go there. just don"t !!!
hmm, my buddy was caught with drugs at a local airport. bribed his way out, no problem. we all got together one night with his attorney. we talked about the various cases he worked on, many with foreigners. he has 100% success rate with his cases. many were drug cases. never lost a criminal case. even with the couple that went to trial, you just have to bribe the arresting officer. i really don't want to get into a debate on this (like the never ending condom/no condom thing), except to say that you are getting your information from some dubious sources.
Bill Buxton
06-07-06, 12:02
I guess the point is missed here,why do it?When I said do it at home, I was saying if I am that stupid to do it at all I would rather spend my time in a cell stateside than in a foreign prison any day.Personal experence with drug use should not be talked about here,do what you want but why tell the world you do that shit????
Think more,play safe.
B.B...
"I’m sure he taught her a few other things that evening besides how to use an elevator…"
The Senator does have that elevator thing under control, although on one of our trips to Buenos Aires he did get stuck on an escalator for 3 hours during a blackout.
Looking forward to a full trip report from the Senator when he gets back.
Dashing Don
06-07-06, 16:52
Always nice to meet old friends, especially veterans of the On The Go and Junior wars, like Prov and Guinness. Grizzled vets all. Horny motherfuckers.
Even the recently-married Slick1 is showing up on this board......proof that his monger genes will surface. No need to debate whether its genetics or surroundings that drives Slick.
Usually my MO in Manila is to hole up in a five star hotel which has all the amenities and bang everything I can. Barfine after barfine. Its a shallow approach and typically sex touristy, but again........genetics.
In what may be the biggest news out of the Phillipines in years, Guinness reportedly deflowered a virgin on Burgos St. The mere existence of a virgin on Burgos is like spotting a coyote strolling down Fifth avenue in Manhattan, I mean what are the chances. But Guinness defrocked this girl and Prov said that 'there was blood everywhere' after the deed was done. Prov also stated that the girls' period commenced the day after Guinness ravaged this sweet young thing, but I'd rather take the high road on this and give the nod to Guinness.
One difference, next trip however, I think that for a change I'd like to start in Cebu. Guinness expressed an interest in this also because it would put us near the beaches and snorkelling in the southern Philippines. It'll make a nice change. Bag a few girls in Cebu and take them to a resort where we can swim and dive; couple of days later, bring them back and exchange them.
I hate to say 'I told you so' but I did warn this board about Surfer. Sure enough, he's here. Lecturing everyone and criticizing sex tourists right from his first posts. 'Respect for the girls' blah blah. Like we need to be told this.
My gut tells me that a poll is in the near future.
Don
let's us NOT subject the Philippine board to the same BS you tried on the Colombia board (where you got ripped a new one by ALL the established posters when you started a flame war against me, because I called you on using racial stereotypes and slurs). I doubt anybody here cares, but anybody who does can search Don's posts in the Colombia folder and see for himself what transpired.
So stick to discussing Filipinas, OK? Resume the flame war and you will get burned again. That applies to your alter ego Prov too. As for "your [sizeable] gut", put up a poll Don. Or better yet, email Jackson and ask HIM to expel me and see what response you get. Come on Don, I dare you.
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
While I do not have definitive proof that you and Don are one and the same, to argue that the pattern of your posts is mere "conicidence"is pretty incredible. I also find your use of the term "us" quite illustrative. The Prov handle chimed in once in the Colombia thread, then was smart enough to disappear (unlike Don's handle which persisted). Clicking "show all posts by DashingDon" will reveal the excganges in a few different Colombias threads (although he only went to Cartagena and Medellin, he tried to flame me in other city folders too).
I had never mentioned you or Don in Philippines folder. In fact, I avoid cluesless kooks like you and we will never go the same places as I am SO beyond "staying in 5 star hotels in Manila and banging as many as possible". When I return soon after a long hiatus, I will go to parts of the PI where kooks like you fear to tread (just like in Colombia, where Don only went to the two most kook friendly places). You guys stick to Manila and Angeles and leave the rest of the PI to the real men.
You guys stick to Manila and Angeles and leave the rest of the PI to the real men.
This one's bound to get you lot's of votes for the next poll :)
Dashing Don
06-08-06, 02:43
Anyone who has visited the PI knows how small the taxis are. Between jeepneys, trikes and taxis, transportation is stretched to the limit.
So I just loved the visual of Surfer trying to jam his 9' surfboard into a Manila taxi.........and then refusing to pay anything extra.
So much for showing sensitivity to the locals.
Of course the police showed up, just as surely as the authorities on ISG will have to intervene at some point. Naturally, Solicitor Surfer will have a ten page response detailing his position.
Excuse me while I have a giggle :)
I'd like to move on to other news, but Surfer's onslaught is dominating everything here.
He says he's not a sex tourist--he's beyond that. But what DOES he do? I do know he runs with the type of crowd that my mother warned me about; On The Go and his new IDs, Chivas and Total Package.
Like many posters here, I'm hoping that Surfer suffers an accident while he's on that board.
Some possible scenarios:
A normally docile dolphin senses Surfer's latent hostility and 'flippers' him with his tail or
Surfer arrogantly asks the local head of the village to help him carry his surf board and the chief has Surfer boiled in oil or
Surfer tries to get a bargirl to engage in sex on the surfboard and at an opportune moment, she rams a coconut up his ass, and ends his surfing career.
Wishful thinking, I know. But dreams do come true.
Don
Anyone who has visited the PI knows how small the taxis are. Between jeepneys, trikes and taxis, transportation is stretched to the limit.
So I just loved the visual of Surfer trying to jam his 9' surfboard into a Manila taxi.........and then refusing to pay anything extra.
I ride a shortboard (6'10), the taxi was an FX "Tamaraw", and I offered the meter (which is the legal fare).
I'd like to move on to other news, but Surfer's onslaught is dominating everything here.
I never mentioned you. Looking now at this whole Philippine section of the ISG, what a joke. You apprently have "permanent immunity", so you don't care if nobody (except Prov01) wants to read all about your post adolescent jihaad against various enemies, real or perceived.
This PI section is a paradigm of how somed boards descend into anarchy. I shall retreat to the private boards where the signal to noise ratio is so much higher. I shall take my pictures with me.
LoveAsianWhores
06-08-06, 03:51
.personal experence with drug use should not be talked about here,do what you want but why tell the world you do that shit????
b.b...
what nonsense is this. since when should drugs not be talked about here. i post my trip reports as they happen. girls, drugs, hotels, stories, whatever. the only off limits subject in this forum is ****. everything else is fine as long as it is related to banging girls in the philippines. what we shouldn't be doing here is debating drug use. i am not promoting drugs, just mentioning them when it is relevent to the report, and i am certainly not going to edit my reports due to some members drug phobia. if you have some hangup with drugs, then just don't read my reports. i am sure most of the members don't like drugs either, but there also many who smoke weed, take viagra, or are curious about experimenting with ecstacy. freel free to respond, but i will not as i don't want to upset members with off topic drug use debates.
In fact, I avoid cluesless kooks like you and we will never go the same places as I am SO beyond "staying in 5 star hotels in Manila and banging as many as possible".
Hey Surfer, Those photo's appear to have the furnishings and decor of a 5 star hotel. SHAME ON YOU ! Have you no dignity ??
Cebu Local
06-08-06, 09:36
Hey Surfer, Those photo's appear to have the furnishings and decor of a 5 star hotel. SHAME ON YOU ! Have you no dignity ??
Those rooms are obviously from the former Westin now Sofitel Philippine Plaza.The folk Arts Theater is visibile from the background.Not taking sides here,just identifying the 5 star hotel concerned
Dashing Don
06-08-06, 11:19
Can we trust ANYTHING Surfer says? Apparently not.
He says he's 'so way beyond five star hotels' and then he provides pictures of his five star hotel room. What a schmuck! Eagle-eyed Prov spotted the subterfuge and raises the alarm. CL confirms the scam.
Are there no depths to which Surfer will not sink.
Surfer says he's leaving us but, given his total lack of credibility, I'm not breaking out the champagne yet. I am however keeping a bottle handy because I know that someone in the PI is going to take exception to Surfer and settle things without going to court.
Don
CanContrib
06-08-06, 12:29
Hmm, my buddy was caught with drugs at a local airport. Bribed his way out, no problem. We all got together one night with his attorney. We talked about the various cases he worked on, many with foreigners. He has 100% success rate with his cases. Many were drug cases. Never lost a criminal case. Even with the couple that went to trial, you just have to bribe the arresting officer. I really don't want to get into a debate on this (like the never ending condom/no condom thing), except to say that you are getting your information from some dubious sources.
Maybe some people were lucky enough to have been caught in a bribable situation. Don't count on that working everywhere all the time, just like there are corrupt officials, there are also zealots. Just like sometimes it's easy to "pay" one's way on the spot for a traffic violation, and sometimes you just *know* it's better to let them write the ticket. Your Mileage Will Vary. Careful not to try to bribe the wrong person at the wrong time in the wrong place.
LoveAsianWhores
06-10-06, 17:28
First off, there may be some drug references in this next report. Not trying to antagonize anyone, just letting everyone know so that if they are offended by drugs, they can just skip reading the report.
So, my buddy scored me some Thai, and I decided to take him out to celebrate. We're about the same age with the same addiction to girls and smoke, except that I live in Makati and he lives in Alabang. He doesn't go to the Alabang bars as much as I go to EDSA and Burgos, but he's been to most bars in his area at least once, and I have never been to a single one, so he is the expert on this field trip (makes a nice change).
First stop was the Cowboy Grill. He was meeting a blind date, and she was bringing her friend for me. Not something either of us typically do, but the circumstances were set for it to happen and we were starting early, so there was nothing to lose except a round of cheap drinks. The Cowboy Grill is supposedly THE place in the area to pick up working girls and regular girls LATE, but we were there early. Anyway, his girl was OK, and mine was butt ugly, so after some lame excuse, we got the hell out of there.
The main drag in the area is Alabang Zapote Road. I don't know the local name (if there is one), but thats what my nav. showed it as. It runs from Alabang through Las Pinas and is dotted with about 25 or so Kareoke bars. If you are coming from Makati, just take EDSA and exit at Filinvest. Down Filinvest, Left on Commerce, and Right on Alabang Zapote (you would turn left to go into the main entrance for Ayala Alabang subdivision, right to go down Alaban Zapote). So you can just tell a taxi driver to take you to Ayala Alabang, and then just have him go right instead of left at the main entrance. Also, if coming from Makati, make sure you take the SKYWAY. Most cabs will want to take the regular 85 peso toll road, but for an extra 30 pesos, you can avoid traffic about half of the way. If you go late, you can be there in 25 minutes.
Unfortunately, there is no solution to the universal mystery about Kareoke bars - which bars really are Kareoke bars, which are lady houses (take out bars) and which ones are somewhere in between. To make matters worse, bars continuously change, and it can depend on you, the girl, and the mamasan. So we lit one up in the car, and started at one he had never been to before, Don't Tell Mama bar.
OK, so this place was weird. You walk in and there about 15 girls off to the side, there was a hokey stage, and bunch of cheap plastic tables and chairs. Occasionally, a girl with a ok voice would go up and sing a lame Kareoke song. Now, why would anyone want to come to a place like this? First, gogo bars are not accepted in this area, but there are a lot of well to do foreigners that live here and need to get some action, and Kareoke bars are the only establishments that can get a license. The clientelle is mostly Asian, with the occasional foreigner. The girls were similar in quality to what you would get in Makati, but did appear to be smiling a lot more and generally happier with their job. We asked if there was a barfine, and were told 2,500. We each picked out a girl, although mine appeared to be upset that I had picked here (I assume she only likes Asians, but it could be any reason) and says something to the mamasan. After the girls sit down, the mama comes up to us and says that the girls are not available for bar fine tonight. I think it was because the girls have much more of an option here to reject non jap/koreans/chinese, and they see so few westerners, that they let the mamasan know before hand if they are OK with a barfine. Anyway, because I have so much experiance with Jap only girls from EDSA (particularly the Cotton Club), and I often get them to change their mind, I had no problem with this. In fact, I actually like being able to get a chance to talk to one for the challange. One of my favorite types of girl is someone that has never had a westerner before. The look on their face when see (or just feel) the size of my dick, well, lets just say that it's a Kodak moment. Not that I am large, but compared to a Jap, I am Godzilla (no offence to Japanese intended).
So my girl is basically blowing me off. We talk about going to the VIP room, but I am told in nice way, no way. But this cute little jap only thing is really turning me on. So I keep at, trying to let her know that I am a nice guy (yeah right). My friend than tells me that I am wasting my time, that she is not worth it. He can take me to several bars where the girls will be all over me. But I say that I am not interested, I like this one, she is so nice. Now, Filipinas have pretty much the same buttons that you need to push. If you can convince them that you really like them, and always act the gentleman, they will often begin to like you, even if they give you the cold shoulder at first. Either it was that, or she wanted to prove to my friend that she was "worth it", but she immediately changed. Smiling, talking to me, and even saying that she was ok with the VIP, if we all went there together. Within another 10 minutes, she was OK with just me and her. At this point, I was pretty much set with hanging with the girl and seeing where we end up. I am about 60/40 with these types of girls on the first night, moving up to maybe 80/20 on the second "date" if I don't score on the first. I like the challange, but my friend, who was the guide this night, felt that I should forget it. And since I did want to see some more bars, we left. But the girl asked for my number before we left, and I have a text from her.
Off to Bora Bora bar, another bar he hadn't been to before. Since being with someone else is a good opportunity to check out new places, we weren't quite ready to go the "sure thing" bars yet.
Bora Bora was interesting. A real cozy atmosphere inside with lots of couches and REALLY CUTE girls. Some of the nicest girls I had seen anywhere. My buddy immediately asks the mamasan if there was a barfine, and she said "oh no". He then says lets bail. Again, I wanted to stay around and see if I could get a get to know a cute one and arrange something, but he said "too much work", so we were out of there.
Next stop was one of the sure thing bars, aptly called Safety Zone bar. Small bar with about 3 couches, 10 or so girls, and the requisite KTV for apparently legal reasons. The barfine here was 3,000, but it includes the girls fee, so no tip needed. In fact, this would be considered a lady house (or boarding house) in Makati. Again the quality of girls was in the 7 to 8.5 range, but the personality of the girls out here did seam nicer in general to EDSA and Burgos girls. I found a cute one - tight little body, nice personality - and I was good to go. So we headed back to Cowboy Grill where he was meeting the same girl from earlier (long story, and not particularly intersting). I really like the way my girl treated me the whole night. From always poring the drinks, cleaning utensils, feeding me my pizza so I wouldn't get my hands dirty, and quickly reaching for her lighter (she doesn't smoke) when I go for a cigarette. Try getting that service from a EDSA girl!
So later we head to the local short time hotel in the area, Eurotell, also on Alabang Zapote. We put them in a room together, while we go and light one up in the other room. We then all hang out for while, and then we split to our separate rooms for some fun. All in all, a great night and a great girl. I even gave her 1,000 P tip, and she appeared surprised, but I am so used to tipping the girl that I felt uncomfortable in not doing so. I would like to have seen some of the other bars my friend told me about, but once you have found the right girl, why bother. There is always next time.
All About Bob
06-11-06, 06:08
Hi all
Does any one have any information on SM clubs in Manila?
thanks in advance
Cebu Local
06-11-06, 07:03
Hi all
Does any one have any information on SM clubs in Manila?
thanks in advance
None that I know off aside from specialty escorts
Great post LoveAsWh
I have no idea about where you were, but would love to check it out. Knowing a little Japanese always helps break the ice with those TYPES.
Have fun.
X
CanContrib
06-12-06, 22:09
The main drag in the area is Alabang Zapote Road. I don't know the local name (if there is one), but thats what my nav. showed it as. It runs from Alabang through Las Pinas and is dotted with about 25 or so Kareoke bars. If you are coming from Makati, just take EDSA and exit at Filinvest. Down Filinvest, Left on Commerce, and Right on Alabang Zapote (you would turn left to go into the main entrance for Ayala Alabang subdivision, right to go down Alaban Zapote). So you can just tell a taxi driver to take you to Ayala Alabang, and then just have him go right instead of left at the main entrance. Also, if coming from Makati, make sure you take the SKYWAY. Most cabs will want to take the regular 85 peso toll road, but for an extra 30 pesos, you can avoid traffic about half of the way. If you go late, you can be there in 25 minutes.
Unfortunately, there is no solution to the universal mystery about Kareoke bars - which bars really are Kareoke bars, which are lady houses (take out bars) and which ones are somewhere in between. To make matters worse, bars continuously change, and it can depend on you, the girl, and the mamasan. So we lit one up in the car, and started at one he had never been to before, Don't Tell Mama bar.
OK, so this place was weird. You walk in and there about 15 girls off to the side, there was a hokey stage, and bunch of cheap plastic tables and chairs. Occasionally, a girl with a ok voice would go up and sing a lame Kareoke song. Now, why would anyone want to come to a place like this? ....
I live around here and we call it the "Zapote - Alabang road (highway)". Who am I to disagree with the official road signs, which you will see if you take the coastal hwy, through the tollgate and once in Cavite hang a hard left into LasPinas under the Zapote overpass.
As for "takeout" in Las Pinas, I have never to this point done so and my best guess is that unless you have way too much money to burn then neither will "you" (whoever reads this). Certainly not impossible, but just not worth the bother and expense, at least in the vidoke bars. Maybe there are alternatives but if there are they're a lot easier to find everywhere else than Las Pinas, and Alabang is a step up in cost-expectations. All that's not just my opinion; what I don't experience I trust my male "relatives" to tell me and so far our info jives.
Maybe we're all clueless, and if so maybe someone will post some worthwhile reasonable-cost bar "take-out" experiences in Las Pinas and Alabang. To me Las PInas is a place I go to meet up with my wife's male relatives and then we go somewhere ELSE for some fun. Yeah there are lots of cute girls in Las Pinas, but I've never ever taken one out (from some "establishment"). I have however seen my relatives drop 10,000 pesos for us to drink beer and sing in Las Pinas, and then next time we go one of many places elsewhere, spend a lot less and we all get laid. Sing in Las Pinas if that's one's desire. Get laid for a LOT less everywhere else.
Anybody else try the Quiapo strip clubs for cheap entertainment during the day?
These are places along C.M. Recto Ave. and vicinity between Rizal Ave. and Quezon Ave. Kind of a grotty part of town, but not too hard to reach from Ermita if you take the Taft LRT to the D. Jose station.
If memory serves, admission is P50 or so, you get patted down and they won't let you take much in with you at all (you have to leave any valuables with security), and you have to get two beers at around P40 each. Very cheap on customer drinks.
Best of all is that the stage operates a lot like a U.S. strip club, in that you have one of 2 dancers for 2 or 3-song sets and they usually get nude by the end of it.
Biggest downside, especially for an obvious foreigner, is deflecting the buy-me-drink bit. A favorite trick is for the girl to run nude off the stage and plop into your lap. In no time flat there's a guy with a P220 or so drink ticket for you to sign, so you have to be polite but firm. In the better places they eventually get the message and leave you alone if you just want to watch. But there's an unwritten rule that you can't have a seat in a table next to the stage if not buying lady drinks.
Seems the best niche for these places is as entertainment on a slow afternoon, as they're open and usually (the times I've been) have had a few customers.
Some places also have P4P arrangements, sometimes on-premise, but I've never been quoted anything sounding reasonable. Usually P1,500 to the bar and girl wants 2,000-2,500. Some places do a "VIP room" that's more dubious.
My favorite places include the Harem on C.M. Recto and a large-size place whose name starts with a P (Pandemonium?) on Quezon Ave. on the west side, just south of the Recto intersection.
Am soon to be off on the biannual trip and just wanted to see what the proper costs for L.A. Cafe are. I'm not a hopeless cheap Charlie but certainly can't pay the Makati prices, and the EDSA ones would need to have me really smitten at that level.
For L.A. Cafe last time I was generally giving P1,000 ST and up to P1,500 for LT if it was my idea (less if the girl mostly just wanted a place to sleep). Got a really good 4-day keeper that I paid at P1,200 per LT, plus any meals and small extras (didn't complain about eating at McDonald's as long as she could get some of their McRice).
Usually I'll be on multi-country 2-monthers and in better shape on time than money, so I have to be a bit more value-conscious than back when I'd have the frenzied 2-week holidays and have to seize-the-day with those.
Very entertaining read. IMHO, the farther you get from Manila the better. Girls are nicer, costs are lower, people are more honest. Metro Manila is the WORST part of the PI for SO many things, including finding GFE. I am now preparing for my return trip and have joined a dating site where I get a good number of emails. But ANYBODY from Metro Manila, including Alabang, Paranaque, Las Pinas, Bulacan, Tagaytay etc is immediately eliminated (I won't even respond to the cute ones from MM who write me). More richer foreigners=suplada babae! Even remote areas of Northern Luzon are inferior to the REALLY fertile hunting grounds in Visayas and Mindanao.
Never saw Thai stick in the PI (or ANYWHERE since the 80s!). In fact, only good smoke I EVER found in PI was hash in Sagada (VERY easy to find up there, and it is the most interesting area of all Luzon). Ditto for weed quality in Thailand and Cambodia. Brasil & Colombia too ): Once you've tried California or BC grown smoke, the rest is subpar.
CanContrib certainly has his finger on the CURRENT PI pulse MUCH more than I, but in the 90s getting caught with ganja cost no more than 1,000 Piso (INCLUDING at the airport leaving on domestic flights). I would never touch Shabu, but I sure saw lots of people using it fairly openly with scant concern about problems with the PNP.
With enough Piso, you can buy your way out of just about anything in the PI (look at Romeo Jalosjos or Robin Padilla!). MAYBE Gloria's "morals" campaign, hypocritical as it is, has changed things (but I doubt it).
Don: GET OVER YOUR OBSESSION WITH ME. You seem to have gotten over your wife leaving you last year, so there is no reason you cannot get over me calling you a biggot soon after that (when you posted something racist in the Colombia folder). I DO note that after my last post with pictures you FINALLY posted your own pictures FOR THE FIRST TIME. Nice girl, although the quality of photography was soso.
Re my pics from the Westin, my issue was never you staying in 5 star hotels (only stayed there because I got a REALLY cheap rate from Asiatravel.com).
My issue was a 60 YO man acting like a 16YO and trying to brag about "banging several per day" or some such nonsense. Maybe, with Viagra, you can do three girls a day, but the fact you try and brag about the number merely reveleals your inexperience as a monger (and immaturity). Any EXPERIENCED monger knows that quality, not quantity, is the thing to be proud of.
CanContrib
06-14-06, 22:52
Am soon to be off on the biannual trip and just wanted to see what the proper costs for L.A. Cafe are. I'm not a hopeless cheap Charlie but certainly can't pay the Makati prices, and the EDSA ones would need to have me really smitten at that level.
For L.A. Cafe last time I was generally giving P1,000 ST and up to P1,500 for LT if it was my idea (less if the girl mostly just wanted a place to sleep).
My personal recent (last 6 months) LA (and Ermita in general) experiences vary from "libre" (free, but someone does have to provide a room!) to 500 to 1000 (plus room). Yeah, someone you don't know might even ask for more especially of anyone they suspect might be really green. To me 1000 seems max high price for LA and I've never agreed to more, though sometimes I might give more after-the-fact.
OK, I found my notes, so I can do a more proper Quiapo report.
For something different to do in Manila during the afternoon, do what some of the locals do and check out a Quiapo strip club or two. This is the grotty old core downtown area, recently revitalized quite a bit thanks to Mayor Lito and the train stations. The main stretch is along CM Recto Ave. between Rizal Avenue (the pedestrianized mall) and Quezon Ave, to the east, and including some side streets. During the day this is a busy part of town, frequented by locals and with lots of street vendors (many specializing in fake diplomas).
Along Recto there are a number of "KTV" places with pictures of girls at the entrances. They range from pretty decent places to roach-infested dumps. One of my favorites is the Harem on the south side of Recto just east of the Rizal Ave. intersection. As with all the places, you get a pat down and have to leave anything with the guard that either looks like a camera (they're very concerned about cellphone cameras) or could be used as a weapon.
Usually there's a cover charge of P35-50 and a 2 drink minimum, with both drinks brought out (San Miguel or Beer Na Beer regular bottles) and costing only P35-40 or so each. So you'll be in for P130-150.
The show is reminiscent of U.S. strip clubs in the early 70s, with 1-3 girls on stage at a time dancing 2-3 songs and usually going nude on the last song, while a DJ milks applause. They're actually performing rather than just standing and wiggling like in Angeles or much of Thailand.
The place works OK as an ogling den with a lot more "showing" than in most of the country, and for a cheap price. Girls' looks range from about a 6 to a 9 or so. You'll see locals there in the afternoon, with crowds picking up toward the night.
The catch? There had to be one. You'll have to keep saying no to lady drinks, especially at first and especially if you're a foreigner. They will try to bring over dancers or (a favorite trick), the girl who just danced nude on the stage will go over to you and give you a sort of lap dance. It'll take about 5 seconds for a waiter to appear with a popped beer for the girl and a ticket for you to sign. You have to be polite but firm upfront that you don't want to do that (don't worry, they're used to re-capping the beer botts).
If you do want the girl's company the drink will run P220-260, which isn't too bad. Most places also have an informal rule that you can't sit right by the stage if you're not buying lady drinks, but usually you can see fine even if not by the stage.
Most places also have an on-premises short-time option, though it seemed a little rich for me at P1,500-2,500 total, so I didn't do any in-depth research. You definitely have to bargain, and it's very important not to assume anything that you don't spell out. The girls are generally not used to going with foreigners.
Another place I generally like is the Phenomenal, which is along the west side of Quezon Blvd. just south of the Recto intersection. Lots of space and a good setup, and usually they'll get the message if you just want to watch the show...eventually. But there's another place across Quezon Blvd., the former Phenomenal 2, that got new management and has really gone downhill. Other places are really hit and miss.
It's easy to get to the area from Ermita, as the Taft LRT-1 goes up to Doroteo Jose station, which is just north of Recto Ave. The LRT-3 terminus (going out to Q.C.) is also there.
Overall I think the better places might have a useful niche as affordable ogling dens, doing what the locals do. More possibilities exist beyond that and many plces stay open until the wee hours of the morning and do most business at night, but if I'm there, I'm there in the afternoons. Also take note that the LRTs stop running around 8:30. Taxis are pretty impossible to get around rush hour, but start becoming available again later into the night.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Steve Naive
06-15-06, 13:24
I am considering a change of scenery from the usual Makati scene (a thread in which I have made several reports). One option is the Shangri-la EDSA / Mandalyuong, 1 Garden Way, Ortigas Ctr. I don't know Manila outside of Makati City.
Is it close to EDSA Complex, LA, or other mongering options?
Any mongering in walking distance?
Is the area generally pleasant, have restaurants, etc?
If people prefer to PM their responses, I will summarize - and of course report once I've been there.
LoveAsianWhores
06-16-06, 05:41
I am considering a change of scenery from the usual Makati scene (a thread in which I have made several reports). One option is the Shangri-la EDSA / Mandalyuong, 1 Garden Way, Ortigas Ctr. I don't know Manila outside of Makati City.
Is it close to EDSA Complex, LA, or other mongering options?
Any mongering in walking distance?
Is the area generally pleasant, have restaurants, etc?
If people prefer to PM their responses, I will summarize - and of course report once I've been there.
The hotel is located next door to one of the nicer malls in the Manila area. The mall also has its own MRT (train) station, which maks it very convenient for transportation. It's not the money you save, but the time not wasted stuck in trafic if you take a cab. If you stay there, you would take the Buendia stop for Burgos, or the EDSA/Passay stop for the complex. Refer to this map: http://www.urbanrail.net/as/mani/manila.htm . The Shangri-La EDSA mall is the Shaw stop.
I do not know of any mongering in the area however.
Dashing Don
06-16-06, 11:47
A friend alerted me to Surfer's latest posts. Vintage Surfer. He boasts of being able to get his NYPD friend assist a monger with travel plans and in his next post, Solicitor Surfer relates his experiences with drugs!
Then he calls me a 'biggot'.
Yo Surfer! Turn of the 'spiggot', will ya? Or better yet, go back to the Colombia board where you belong.
Mandaluyong is just North of Makati (the huge sign with the Eagle on EDSA announces the change of municipality or you'd never notice)and ShangriLa is always overpriced. My suggestion is stay in a cheaper Hotel, then use your savings to get top quality girls at Pegasus or Miss Saigon. Without breaking the bank (stars get 10,000 Piso & up), QC has TONS of small GRO type bars where the clueless sex tourists never tread, and lots of cool places to meet nonpros (ugly guys with no game should stick to their 5 star hotels LOL) like Padi's Point.
PBurgos, LA Cafe, and maybe the EDSA Complex are about the extent of how adventurous "the Senator" and his clique ever get. By AVOIDING the clueless hordes, you will get more GFE action at lower prices too. Most the customers in QC are Asian, so if you LIKE hanging with Americans & Euros you may not feel that comfortable up thyere (though I never felt in danger at all).
Better yet, GET OUT OF MANILA!
PS GREAT report Ploughman. Nice to see a few guys in here that have the balls to explore a little bit.
Dashing Don
06-17-06, 13:13
I did warn everyone about the arrival of this idiot, Surfer. A mix of a little info and lots of lecturing is his MO. There's always 'good guys' and 'bad guys', with Surfer being a 'good guy', of course. After a short while, it will be easy to discern a pattern to his posts.
When Surfer arrives on his surfboard, things don't get better; they get worse.
But what I'm really interested in is the identity of the NYPD captain that Surfer says is a buddy of his and can swing vacation time for other officers to go on pussy trips to the PI. As a tax-paying resident of NYC, I and other citizens in good standing are very interested in this. I'd like this 'surf buddy' to be unmasked and brought to justice. It don't matter whether he's a patrolman or a captain: the law applies equally.
Does this captain run a precinct. Has one of NYC's police precincts been corrupted?
So Surfer, what precinct is he in? I can drop by at a moment's notice with a New York Post reporter and get to the bottom of this thing.
Don
I am considering a change of scenery from the usual Makati scene (a thread in which I have made several reports). One option is the Shangri-la EDSA / Mandalyuong, 1 Garden Way, Ortigas Ctr. I don't know Manila outside of Makati City.
Is it close to EDSA Complex, LA, or other mongering options?
Any mongering in walking distance?
Is the area generally pleasant, have restaurants, etc?Mandaluyong is just North of Makati but actually further from EDSA Complex (Pasay) and LA Cafe (Malate). You are closer to QC including Cubao area. Mandaluyong is a good area with malls, restaurants and bars inlcuding small GRO bars and Casas but better option is QC such as Tomas Morato, Araneta and Eastwood City areas.
Mandaluyong is just North of Makati (the huge sign with the Eagle on EDSA announces the change of municipality or you'd never notice)and ShangriLa is always overpriced. My suggestion is stay in a cheaper Hotel, then use your savings to get top quality girls at Pegasus or Miss Saigon. Without breaking the bank (stars get 10,000 Piso & up), QC has TONS of small GRO type bars where the clueless sex tourists never tread, and lots of cool places to meet nonpros.I agree with Surfer that there are tons of other good areas in the PI with QC being one of the top cities unknown by most visitors. QC however can get very expensive especially since this is where the local celebrities hangout. In general, you should be fine in QC
I am considering a change of scenery from the usual Makati scene (a thread in which I have made several reports). One option is the Shangri-la EDSA / Mandalyuong, 1 Garden Way, Ortigas Ctr. I don't know Manila outside of Makati City. Sorry but accidently submitted the previous report before completion.
As I stated, QC is a great area but if you don't know the area, language or have a tour guide, it can be very intimidating and possibly not the safest place to go for newbies. It is also very expensive especially if you are a foreigner and don't like to negotiate. For the adventurous, I suggest visiting 3 areas during the day and see what the areas are like (Tomas Morato, Araneta and Eastwood City). You will find that QC has the hottest girls in the PI since this is where the rich hangout including local Pinoys which may pose problems for foreigners. The locals are generally very friendly but are not happy when foreigners invade their hangout/area (usually the hot spots at night).
I haven't posted alot on this site but I am very experienced when it comes to the PI. Background on myself: I am currently living in Michigan but was born in Manila and speak Tagalog fluently. I know the Metro Manila area very well and visit 2x a year to see family and friends as well as look into my investment properties. Steve, I will be in the PI from 6/22 to 7/09 so if you need some additional info, PM me. I will be leaving this Wednesday (6/21/06) at 3:45 pm EST. Hope this helps and you have a ton of fun in the PI!
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Dashing Don
06-17-06, 17:03
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
PBurgos, LA Cafe, and maybe the EDSA Complex are about the extent of how adventurous "the Senator" and his clique ever get. By AVOIDING the clueless hordes, you will get more GFE action at lower prices too.
I've spent plenty of time inside and outside Manila but I don't consider anybody "clueless" for going to P. Burgos, La Cafe or EDSA. Perhaps Surfer needs to work on his manners. First he bad mouths anybody who's ever stayed at a 5 star hotel and now this? Surfer, if your name is on the next poll I predict you will win by a landslide.
CanContrib
06-17-06, 22:58
PBurgos, LA Cafe, and maybe the EDSA Complex are about the extent of how adventurous "the Senator" and his clique ever get. By AVOIDING the clueless hordes, you will get more GFE action at lower prices too.
I've spent plenty of time inside and outside Manila but I don't consider anybody "clueless" for going to P. Burgos, La Cafe or EDSA. Perhaps Surfer needs to work on his manners. First he bad mouths anybody who's ever stayed at a 5 star hotel and now this? Surfer, if your name is on the next poll I predict you will win by a landslide.
Presuming accuracy of the original quote, Surfer never called anyone "clueless", only suggested that (what he really did write, as quoted) generally yields better quality at dramatically lower cost, and he's certainly correct about that.
That's not to suggest that for some the high-cost-fast-action-ultra-tourist-venues aren't a good choice. Here now, money to burn, gone in a few hours, sure thing, no mess no fuss, like buying expensive cola from a pop machine, and the can it comes in might be as advertised, maybe. Beyond that, please pay attention to what he's trying to tell you instead of taking exception to the way you improperly rearrange his words, no offense to you intended, I know how easy it is to take things out-of-context when trying to read & post too fast. Perhaps "clueless" might have been more politically-correctly elaborated as "without time for great experiences" as I suspect was likely his intention based on what I read.
On, topic, I've personally "known" more than a few girls who've been at LA Cafe and/or at some point worked along EDSA, and a few points in-between and elsewhere, and I have little doubt that people who know have posted good info about Burgos, but I avoid the ultra-high-price impersonal "tourist" experience. Hey, all except the hard-core are just regular girls trying to make ends meet and if they're really lucky meet someone who'll treat them right for more than a few hours or a fwe days or even a few weeks. I think that's the difference the original poster was trying to point out.
Myself, I'd like to find out about that blow-job-while-you-wait-for-your-haircut place an American told me about. I wonder if I still have his cell# - after this I'll have to look in my phone!
seeking info that is already on the board (but they prefer to send you a questyion like "hey, where should go in the PI". Very generous of you to offer to help people though, and it sounds like you have some detailed knowledge of the QC scene. Your post raises the often ignored ESSENTIAL rule of punting in the PI: NEGOTIATE. For EVERYTHING )(time, price and services).
I can speak pretty decent Taglish, which helps a bit, but I never encountered animosity from the locals in QC bars. I find Filipino men pretty darn tolerant of us pawing their women. I also generally travel alone, and I do not not get drunk or act like a loud mouth idiot, nor do I go on and on about how great America is (while insulting the Philippines). The culturally sensitive traveler from the US is almost always accepted in the PI, even in Muslim areas of Mindanao.
Cancontrib: thanks for your post too. I have found some great girls on Pburgos & EDSA. As you correctly stated, I was merely saying that there is a large number of foreigners who never get beyond the "famous" places and that there are rewards for being more adventurous. Those with a "clue" (read: more savy mongers or guys spending more than a few days in the PI) realize that. But for a short time visitor with no Taglish skills I would not hesitate to reccommend EDSA or PBurgos (although I would say Angeles is also a must see for a visiting monger, especially a poor one).
FieldMouse
06-18-06, 10:44
G'day guys,
I have been sent to Manila in a rush for work. First time here, know nothing about the place. staying at the edsa shangri-la. have quickly scanned the forums re this area, but would like to ask the following. Is there now anywhere near Mandaluyon city(which is where I believe I am) such as massage parlours, bars etc, which are open of a day time (my nights are accounted for with work) that I can walk to or not takie long to get to. 2. is there any 'dial in" services available where I can ocntact a girl to come to me?
With thanks
F/mouse
Call Kathy at 0921 733 8139, she has several ladies and she will send them to the Shangri-la mall for you to check out before you take them. Just tell her what you like she has some very nice ladies. This service is more expensive than the clubs, but that's the breaks when you don't want to go out and shop. Don't worry you'll have a good time. Post a report if you slam one of her girls.
You can see some of the girls at this site:
http://maniladirect4.bravehost.com/
LOG-IN: power / PASSWORD: play
RaZZoR
G'day guys,
I have been sent to Manila in a rush for work. First time here, know nothing about the place. staying at the edsa shangri-la. have quickly scanned the forums re this area, but would like to ask the following. Is there now anywhere near Mandaluyon city(which is where I believe I am) such as massage parlours, bars etc, which are open of a day time (my nights are accounted for with work) that I can walk to or not takie long to get to. 2. is there any 'dial in" services available where I can ocntact a girl to come to me?
With thanks
F/mouse
FieldMouse
06-19-06, 11:01
Thanks for the contact Razzor. I don't mind clubbing etc, but time and task sees me spending most nights working, thus not much chance to window shop. will send report.
F/M
Call Kathy at 0921 733 8139, she has several ladies and she will send them to the Shangri-la mall for you to check out before you take them. Just tell her what you like she has some very nice ladies. This service is more expensive than the clubs, but that's the breaks when you don't want to go out and shop. Don't worry you'll have a good time. Post a report if you slam one of her girls.
You can see some of the girls at this site:
http://maniladirect4.bravehost.com/
LOG-IN: power / PASSWORD: play
RaZZoR
Fieldmouse, let us know how it goes if you bag one. I would like to see a report on the service they provide you. Enjoy.
RaZZoR
Thanks for the contact Razzor. I don't mind clubbing etc, but time and task sees me spending most nights working, thus not much chance to window shop. will send report.
F/M
CanContrib
06-19-06, 23:19
I can speak pretty decent Taglish, which helps a bit, but I never encountered animosity from the locals in QC bars. I find Filipino men pretty darn tolerant of us pawing their women. I also generally travel alone, and I do not not get drunk or act like a loud mouth idiot, nor do I go on and on about how great America is (while insulting the Philippines). The culturally sensitive traveler from the US is almost always accepted in the PI, even in Muslim areas of Mindanao.
Surprise, Pinoys like to get laid too! Libre is just fine with any Pinoy I've ever met. Make it happen for them and they help you make it happen for all present. Works for me. I wouldn't know about some of the opportunities had I not been introduced just that way. We're of course talking about Pinoys well-known-enough to be at least half-trustworthy.
I also very much agree that a lower modest profile works much better than any loud-mouth routine, drunk or otherwise, and yes, being dead drunk isn't all that condusive towards getting laid. Anywhere. I'm also presuming that "culturaly-insensitive" translates to a minimum of passive cultural tolerance and acceptance. A "visitor" ( or anyone) can have a great GFE almost anytime anywhere, or can instead set out to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) everyone off. Pick one. Anywhere. You (whoever reads this) decide which is more fun.
FieldMouse
06-30-06, 06:16
Fieldmouse, let us know how it goes if you bag one. I would like to see a report on the service they provide you. Enjoy.
RaZZoRViewed the website as provided by razzor (many thanks), contacted Kathy on the number provided. bad english resulted in Kathy hanging up 3 times before finally putting a male on. discussed options as per the website, gave me choice, not availabel, gave 2nd choice...not available...and so it went. Finally agreed that one of the girls was there and could come for 1500 more than advertised price. after discussion, agreed on advertised price, girl despatched with gorilla in tow. Girl and gorilla arrive, nothing like the girl on the website. 'old photo' insist gorilla and funds dispute starts again. py 4000 as per agreed, bloke calls girl outside, pays her. next she's into me about only getting 1000 and wants more money. Don't mind saying the romance has just about worn off by then.
Anyway, no extra money, a dud root, no enthusiasm, gave half arsed bbbj but not to finish, had no condom with her and wanted me to order via hotel housekeeping.
I am certain that though the number was the same, I did not actually talk to the proper organiser, but someone acting on Kathys behalf. The set up is a bit to good to indicate that my experience is the way they normally do business. Anyone else be able to provide info on this service?
Thanks for all those who assisted.
Fieldmouse
Viewed the website as provided by razzor (many thanks), contacted Kathy on the number provided. bad english resulted in Kathy hanging up 3 times before finally putting a male on. discussed options as per the website, gave me choice, not availabel, gave 2nd choice...not available...and so it went. Finally agreed that one of the girls was there and could come for 1500 more than advertised price. after discussion, agreed on advertised price, girl despatched with gorilla in tow. Girl and gorilla arrive, nothing like the girl on the website. 'old photo' insist gorilla and funds dispute starts again. py 4000 as per agreed, bloke calls girl outside, pays her. next she's into me about only getting 1000 and wants more money. Don't mind saying the romance has just about worn off by then.
Anyway, no extra money, a dud root, no enthusiasm, gave half arsed bbbj but not to finish, had no condom with her and wanted me to order via hotel housekeeping.
I am certain that though the number was the same, I did not actually talk to the proper organiser, but someone acting on Kathys behalf. The set up is a bit to good to indicate that my experience is the way they normally do business. Anyone else be able to provide info on this service?
Thanks for all those who assisted.
Fieldmouse
Fieldmouse, next time you want room service just walk down to the lobby and tell the doorman what you want. He will have a lady up to your room within minutes at a fraction of the cost.
Okay guys,
This is my first post, so be gentle. I’ll start by confessing that I’ve been a lurker for a quite a while. Prior to the following events, I had never set foot outside of the US. I had always dreamed of a vacation described on these pages, but the problem was that I didn’t have the balls to travel alone so damned far away from home. On New Year’s Day 2006, I finally decided that life is too short. Soon thereafter, I got a passport, tickets, and told my boss I’d be out for two and a half weeks. With intel gathered from this board and from Filipino friends here in the States, I set out to plan and execute my first international mongering adventure. Before I hit PI for my next, yet more wisely planned adventure this fall, I have a few questions for the experts out there. Since this is my first post, I’ll include my questions in a trip report, to properly show appreciation for what I’ve learned here.
In April, I purchased my round-trip ticket through Travelocity, from New York to Manila for two weeks in June (1,450usd). To ensure that I’d have a well-rounded experience, I also purchased two round-trip tickets from Manila to Tacloban and Dumguete Cities (200 usd total. Not Travelocity, the Phil Air web-site). My itinerary was to check out Manila for a few days, then hop back and forth to Tac and Dum to meet two ladies I had met on FFF, then finish off with a bang in Manila. When I arrived in Manila 20 hours later (stop in HK), it was 11:30pm and my first reaction was exactly as you guys described: Damn, it’s HOT! I was sweating profusely before I even got into my transport.
I had made arrangements with the New World Hotel in Makati to have a driver meet me at the airport for about 40usd slapped to your hotel bill. (I later discovered that you can get a cab at the airport taxi queue for the same fifteen-minute trip for about 300p, or 5.50usd!).
I was pleased with New World. The room was a bit pricey at just over 100usd per night (Travelocity) but as it was my first time traveling abroad, and with safety being a prime concern, I accepted it as a necessary part of the learning curve. By the time I unpacked, I was so excited there was no way I could get to sleep. So I showered, changed, and returned to the streets on a reconnaissance mission. I had no real plans of getting laid that first night, I just wanted to find the Makati Starbucks to take in the scene and strike up conversation with anyone who showed interest. I figured that I’d have plenty of time to do the EDSA - P. Burgos - LA Café round after a good slumber.
My Starbucks-Forty Winks plan was derailed when a 20-something honey got into the elevator as I was going down. Instincts told me she was leaving after a session with a client. I launched the ‘dumb tourist’ routine and politely asked if she knew of a place where one could get something to eat at this hour. “I’m going to a place called LA Café, Sir. Would you like to join me, Sir? I’ll introduce you to my friends”, she replies, with all the courteousness that I’ve come to love about the Philippines. In less than five minutes we were in a cab. And in another fifteen, we were inside the infamous LA Café, where I was in a trance-like state for the next four hours. (I had made arrangements with the driver to pick me up when I was ready to leave.)
As a newbie to LA Café, I was impressed. I’d describe the atmosphere as ‘cutesy’, totally devoid of the rough, urban gangsta air I had expected - a pleasant alternative to the nonsense at some New York clubs that tire me. My new friend Jackie ushers me to a table where a few of her ‘friends’ are waiting, giggling, and so ‘very pleased to meet you, Sir.’ It’s obvious that Jackie and her girls are working me, but I don’t mind. It’s packed (2am Friday) and I’m thinking this is a perfect venue to pick someone’s pocket. Stares come from everywhere, but I’m not sure if it’s because I’m a foreigner, I’m the only brother around, or because everyone can tell I’m new. Ladies achieved scores from 6-10 on my hotness meter. I spotted several 10s simultaneously trying to get my attention, which was a first for me anywhere. One of Jackie’s friends succeeds with me because she carries herself like a native New Yorker, which helps me feel a little at home. Sheen is her name. She’d rank higher than the 8 I gave her, but she was drinking way too much, which is a turn off for me. Despite her silliness, we hit it off and later we were back in my room where she delivered a 7 performance. Although not the greatest in bed, she had great attitude and provided valuable introductory tips on LA Café. She stayed until 11am when I gave her 2,500p (please guys, it was my first time). She splits with promises to text after I get a sim, which she does constantly over the next two weeks to the point of being downright irritating.
Although I was at LA Cafe several times over the next two weeks, I found it hard to make an accurate safety assessment of the surrounding neighborhood. How safe is it to walk this area at night? Oh, upon leaving the club, hustlers work you hard. On one occasion, someone insisted that the driver and I owed parking. I ignored the demand, but the driver forked over 20p without hesitation. Did I miss something? Is it customary to pay the hustlers for parking in this area? Anyone have comments in general on dealing with the hustlers just outside of LA Cafe?
After another visit to LA Cafe, I brought someone to my room I later caught red handed stealing money hidden in my suitcase. (And I really thought I hid it well.) Needless to say, she went out on her ass. Anyone have suggestions on securing valuables? I later hired a hotel driver to tour the city.
After a boring thirty minutes of showing me the ‘Great Sites of Manila’ (at 1am) the driver asks if I’m interested in meeting women. “Of course”, I say, and off we go. We first travel along a street close to Makati that had a lot of adult establishments. I ask if we’re stopping, and he curtly responds, “No. There are too many undesirables here. It would be very unsafe for you.” (During my stay, I heard this line repeated by so many guides that I was terrified of going anywhere unescorted. With retrospection, I realize that it’s probably Lesson #1 in the Hustler’s Playbook: Keep the sucker’s wallet within reach. After returning home and reviewing this board, I’m absolutely sure that street was P. Burgos. If I see this driver the next time I’m in Manila, he’s getting a beat down.)
Our first stop was a strip joint called Athena on Roxas Blvd (in Pasay?) The driver accompanies me inside and introduces me to the proprietress as a newbie. The games resume. I politely avoid any price negotiation as I refuse to allow the driver to enjoy any kickbacks due to this obvious setup. Besides, I really want to just check out the place, chilling with a drink, and seeing where a conversation with a random honey may lead. The dancing was decent and the music surprisingly current. I had a drink with a 9 who offered to meet me at my room after her shift. I was content with learning that you can arrange to meet ladies on the DL and I summarily filed this tip. After a while, I conclude that club Athena too much resembles a tourist trap, so I pay the bill and tell the driver we’re leaving.
The next spot, Casino Royale, is not really a casino, it’s a casa (the card says Makati). About twenty ladies were available at the time I arrived (3am). I thought it a nice touch that a few called out, “Pick me Sir”, with enthusiastic smiles. It didn’t take long to pick out a 10, whose name I completely forget. We went back to my room (negotiated to 50usd) where she delivered a knockout performance. I had revisited Casino Royale and another casa during my time in Manila, picking up a total of three honeys. All three had consistently delivered better service than anyone I had picked up at LA Café. Is this the norm? Or luck of the draw?
Because I was too busy jetting to Dumaguete and Tacloban, I didn’t get an opportunity to explore Manila to the extent I had planned. I completely missed out on P. Burgos and EDSA. I’d go over my experiences in Dumaguete and Tacloban here, but I guess that’s other threads. But I will mention that I found it easier and cheaper hooking up with honeys in these cities than in the capital city. Would you guys say this is consistent with your experiences? To finish, I’ll just list some general observations about Manila:
The New World Hotel is girl friendly, even the security guards are open to sending someone to your room, for a tip, of course. However, she will be required to show photo ID before going anywhere near the elevators. They’re pretty adamant about this, as I twice witnessed poor fellows with dates who were refused entry. Although I didn’t partake, I also observed that the lobby offers a few possibilities. In the evenings, honeys seem to be hanging around the lounge areas, discreetly trying to initiate contact with any single guy who passes by.
I wandered around Makati for a few hours to see what a random walk would yield… Nothing, except for women past their prime handing out business cards offering massages, and a few dudes dressed like chicks at the Starbucks adjacent to the Shangri La Hotel.
Along Roxas Blvd, there seems to be a waterfront with a lot of festival-like activity. Is it safe for foreigners to take a stroll alone here? How likely is it to score here?
It seemed that action could be had anywhere, providing that you have the eye for identifying opportunities and your game is tight enough. Due to culture differences, it will take some time for the Western newbie to fully develop the ‘eye’.
Respect. Respect. Respect. I’ve always believed that respect and courtesy can turn around more delicate situations than we give them credit for. In the Philippines, this theory was put to the test and proven several times. In dealings with people, on any level, a display of courtesy and respect will take you a long way.
After the theft I thwarted, I got into the habit of working the question of photo ID into conversations with potential scores. If she didn’t have one, she’d be tossed back into the sea, no excuses. I find not having a photo ID very suspicious, and there are enough great scores waiting out there to make risks unnecessary.
I had my quad-band phone unlocked in one of the Malls in Makati (2,500pesos). After that, all you do is buy a sim for 150pesos and you’re ready to go. I had a hard time finding someone to unlock my particular phone in NYC, so I was surprised when the first place I visited in Makati had it done in thirty minutes.
It seemed that every honey I hooked up with had difficulty when it was time to part. Some even cried. I need to work on the art of the ‘graceful disconnect.’ Any advice?
Thanks
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Xtorted Decay
07-02-06, 06:00
As for the safety of the area, all I can tell you is when the guy I went to manila with (he grew up there) and his cousins saw the area LA Cafe was in, they were horrified that I had gone there alone. I don't know if they were just being over protective or if its really that bad of an area...But most of the filipinos I talk to seem to think its pretty dangerous. However I have been wanting to ask the board's perspective on this also. How bad of an area is it? I havn't seen any posts like "I got beat down/robbed at LA Cafe" so I have to assume its alright.
However I was there a number of times and never had a problem. I even walked down the street to Amazonia (about a block) and had no problem at all, but it was full day light and I had a lady with me. I have a feeling that with all of the westerners that frequent both places, measures are kept to keep them safe. I think the last thing any filipino business owner would want is something discouraging western money from coming to his or her place.
Although I was at LA Cafe several times over the next two weeks, I found it hard to make an accurate safety assessment of the surrounding neighborhood. How safe is it to walk this area at night? Oh, upon leaving the club, hustlers work you hard. On one occasion, someone insisted that the driver and I owed parking. I ignored the demand, but the driver forked over 20p without hesitation. Did I miss something? Is it customary to pay the hustlers for parking in this area? Anyone have comments in general on dealing with the hustlers just outside of LA Cafe?
After another visit to LA Cafe, I brought someone to my room I later caught red handed stealing money hidden in my suitcase. (And I really thought I hid it well.) Needless to say, she went out on her ass. Anyone have suggestions on securing valuables?
Darth Sushi
07-02-06, 07:26
That's a very fine bit of reporting, Gumby2004! Sorry, to hear about the attempted robbery. Casino Royale, is now on my radar lock next trip. I hope you'll also post your experience with Dumaguete and Tacloban.
Cheers
Okay guys,
This is my first post, so be gentle. I’ll start by confessing that I’ve been a lurker for a quite a while. Prior to the following events, I had never set foot outside of the US. I had always dreamed of a vacation described on these pages, but the problem was that I didn’t have the balls to travel alone so damned far away from home. On New Year’s Day 2006, I finally decided that life is too short. Soon thereafter, I got a passport, tickets, and told my boss I’d be out for two and a half weeks. With intel gathered from this board and from Filipino friends here in the States, I set out to plan and execute my first international mongering adventure. Before I hit PI for my next, yet more wisely planned adventure this fall, I have a few questions for the experts out there. Since this is my first post, I’ll include my questions in a trip report, to properly show appreciation for what I’ve learned here.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Gumby2004:
No doubt, you deserve highest respect! To travel to the Philippines without having gathered experience from other foreign countries proves a hell of courage!
My tiny little advice would only be, simply don't make too many pre-arrangements next time (e.g. airport pick-up for 40 USD, driver who picks you up at LA Cafe etc). It is really not necessary in Manila and you can even save some money.
By the way, I will be coming to Manila/Angeles City next December and if you are also there it would be my pleasure to invite you for some ice-cold San Miguel! :)
Cheers - Hesekiels
GoodEnough
07-02-06, 15:42
Gumby:
A great post and very insightful. I think the only mistakes you made, and they were few, were slightly overpaying and perhaps, by accepting first offers. You can actually get a phone unlocked, for example, for about PhP300, but that's no big deal. You comported yourself well. You used common sense, and you had a good time.
I would suggest that, next time, perhaps on your way to LA Cafe, you stop at EDSA, which I actually like a lot more than Burgos because there's less hassle and the bar fines are cheaper while the quality is (to me) about the same.
You are correct in your conclusion that opportunities are abundant and fairly easy to spot, in malls, restaurants, bars, the street, internet cafes and shops. Too bad you didn't get a chance to check out the Starbucks/Cafe Havana scene in Greenbelt. You might also want to consider that for next time.
The P20 "parking fee" is fairly routine. These are basically street guys trying to direct drivers to parking places they have located. It's their way of surviving and I usually pay them. On the other hand, and as you probably noticed, booking a car for the evening is a fairly expensive way to go. Taxis are ubiquitous and you can always find one. I typically stay in Makati and, if I want to go to G Point, or LA Cafe, take a taxi and then find another to go on to the next destination. It's never been a problem.
Most hotels throughout the country offer in-room safes, and it's a good idea, either prior to going out or when the companion for the evening asks to use your bathroom, as she will inevitably do, to put everything of value in the safe.
My only other suggestion is that next time you think about visiting another large city--Davao and/or Cebu come to mind--as the scenes are much different. though you certainly will not lack for opportunities in either case.
Again, great job. Your post is a valuable object lesson on how to act and what to do both for those who are contemplating their first trip here and for those who have been here many times.
I hope you continue to contribute to these pages.
:D
GE
Gumby, I'm no expert, but I have been to the PI many times. I've tried to answer a few of your questions, hope it helps you out. Others will have different ideas, this is just mine. Really sounds like you enjoyed your trip, time to start planning the next one.
RaZZoR
Okay guys,
This is my first post, so be gentle. I’ll start by confessing that I’ve been a lurker for a quite a while. Prior to the following events, I had never set foot outside of the US. I had always dreamed of a vacation described on these pages, but the problem was that I didn’t have the balls to travel alone so damned far away from home. On New Year’s Day 2006, I finally decided that life is too short. Soon thereafter, I got a passport, tickets, and told my boss I’d be out for two and a half weeks. With intel gathered from this board and from Filipino friends here in the States, I set out to plan and execute my first international mongering adventure. Before I hit PI for my next, yet more wisely planned adventure this fall, I have a few questions for the experts out there. Since this is my first post, I’ll include my questions in a trip report, to properly show appreciation for what I’ve learned here.
In April, I purchased my round-trip ticket through Travelocity, from New York to Manila for two weeks in June (1,450usd). To ensure that I’d have a well-rounded experience, I also purchased two round-trip tickets from Manila to Tacloban and Dumguete Cities (200 usd total. Not Travelocity, the Phil Air web-site). My itinerary was to check out Manila for a few days, then hop back and forth to Tac and Dum to meet two ladies I had met on FFF, then finish off with a bang in Manila. When I arrived in Manila 20 hours later (stop in HK), it was 11:30pm and my first reaction was exactly as you guys described: Damn, it’s HOT! I was sweating profusely before I even got into my transport.[/blue]
-Next time you make flight arrangements check with NWA they have specials where tickets can be as cheap as $650.00 around twice a year during off season.
-The domestic tickets run about the same most of the time, but sometimes they have fair specials and they could be as low as $50.00 round trip where you are going. You can get the tickets almost anywhere, but I would recommend you get them in the mall at the official Philippine Airline office. More or less if you just wait to get them in the PI you will pay the same as you did, but you may save and you would have less trouble changing the ticket if you wanted to stay somewhere longer.
I had made arrangements with the New World Hotel in Makati to have a driver meet me at the airport for about 40usd slapped to your hotel bill. (I later discovered that you can get a cab at the airport taxi queue for the same fifteen-minute trip for about 300p, or 5.50usd!) .[/blue]
-It’s best to use the official transportation at the airport unless the hotel will pick you up without jamming you like you got. I used to go upstairs to the departures and jump a taxi that just dropped someone off, this doesn’t work as well anymore because the police and security will stop them and make you get out because they are not the official taxi. Plus this is high risk doing that. When you do take a taxi and you feel the driver is fucken insane, act like your calling someone on your cell and tell them your driver’s name and what taxi you’re in and you’ll be there in a few minutes. I have taken more than 100 taxi rides in Manila, most are no problem, always remember to tell them to turn the meter on or you don’t ride. You can remind them of the php3000 fine for a defective meter or not using it. I know my way around Manila so I know if the driver is taken me the wrong way or somewhere I shouldn’t be around and this is a factor not knowing your way around. Just remember if the area looks like you shouldn’t be there ask the driver to take you to the area around the US Embassy Now. I have had a driver take me through Tondo in the day time; you wouldn’t want to be in this area at night. If a driver is taken you through a area like that he know he shouldn’t best to look for a place to bale and fine another taxi. Most Filipinas you will meet don’t really know the taxi stuff very well because they take Jeeps and buses around Manila most of the time so don’t expect great advice from a bar girl on taxi’s.
I was pleased with New World. The room was a bit pricey at just over 100usd per night (Travelocity) but as it was my first time traveling abroad, and with safety being a prime concern, I accepted it as a necessary part of the learning curve. By the time I unpacked, I was so excited there was no way I could get to sleep. So I showered, changed, and returned to the streets on a reconnaissance mission. I had no real plans of getting laid that first night, I just wanted to find the Makati Starbucks to take in the scene and strike up conversation with anyone who showed interest. I figured that I’d have plenty of time to do the EDSA - P. Burgos - LA Café round after a good slumber. [/blue]
-Most of the time I stay at the Cherry Blossom next to Robinson Mall in Ermita and a 5 minute walk to the LA Café. Not the best hotel in Manila, it’s clean, large rooms, girl friendly, 1 minute walk to the mall and for less than $30.00 a night. I have stayed at the Pan Pacific in Ermita for less than $100 with on line reservation and that is top notch place to stay. There are many places in the Ermita area that are decent for less than $50 a night. For myself I find Ermita to be the best place to stay and get around.
My Starbucks-Forty Winks plan was derailed when a 20-something honey got into the elevator as I was going down. Instincts told me she was leaving after a session with a client. I launched the ‘dumb tourist’ routine and politely asked if she knew of a place where one could get something to eat at this hour. “I’m going to a place called LA Café, Sir. Would you like to join me, Sir? I’ll introduce you to my friends”, she replies, with all the courteousness that I’ve come to love about the Philippines. In less than five minutes we were in a cab. And in another fifteen, we were inside the infamous LA Café, where I was in a trance-like state for the next four hours. (I had made arrangements with the driver to pick me up when I was ready to leave.) [/blue]
-No need to make arrangements with taxi drivers like that. Only if you pay them say php500 for 3 or 4 hours flat rate. Later in your report you discuss the taxi driver taking you where he wants to take you and not really where you want to go. He gets a fee when he took you to one of these places and you bar fine, but this is reflected in the price you pay. Best to tell the driver to take you to X spot and then they should go, sometimes they hang around and wait for you act like they are taking care of you. They are only trying to see if you leave and take you somewhere else they may collect a fee. This is why I like Erimta so much, I don’t have to take Taxi at night, so many bars and places to hang out I don’t get wrapped up with the taxi problems at night.
As a newbie to LA Café, I was impressed. I’d describe the atmosphere as ‘cutesy’, totally devoid of the rough, urban gangsta air I had expected - a pleasant alternative to the nonsense at some New York clubs that tire me. My new friend Jackie ushers me to a table where a few of her ‘friends’ are waiting, giggling, and so ‘very pleased to meet you, Sir.’ It’s obvious that Jackie and her girls are working me, but I don’t mind. It’s packed (2am Friday) and I’m thinking this is a perfect venue to pick someone’s pocket. Stares come from everywhere, but I’m not sure if it’s because I’m a foreigner, I’m the only brother around, or because everyone can tell I’m new. Ladies achieved scores from 6-10 on my hotness meter. I spotted several 10s simultaneously trying to get my attention, which was a first for me anywhere. One of Jackie’s friends succeeds with me because she carries herself like a native New Yorker, which helps me feel a little at home. Sheen is her name. She’d rank higher than the 8 I gave her, but she was drinking way too much, which is a turn off for me. Despite her silliness, we hit it off and later we were back in my room where she delivered a 7 performance. Although not the greatest in bed, she had great attitude and provided valuable introductory tips on LA Café. She stayed until 11am when I gave her 2,500p (please guys, it was my first time). She splits with promises to text after I get a sim, which she does constantly over the next two weeks to the point of being downright irritating.[/blue]
-LA Café, been there so many times…. Sounds like your friend is what I refer to as one of the “Sharks”. When you walk in the door to your left it’s the Shark Pit, when Jackie brought you in you didn’t have a chance in the Pit, unless you picked up and walked around. Best to stay away from the ones who are in that area, they are there all the time. I know a lady who is in the Pit every time I go to the LA Café, she was the first girl I stuffed in the PI in Sep 1995 in Angeles City.
Although I was at LA Cafe several times over the next two weeks, I found it hard to make an accurate safety assessment of the surrounding neighborhood. How safe is it to walk this area at night? Oh, upon leaving the club, hustlers work you hard. On one occasion, someone insisted that the driver and I owed parking. I ignored the demand, but the driver forked over 20p without hesitation. Did I miss something? Is it customary to pay the hustlers for parking in this area? Anyone have comments in general on dealing with the hustlers just outside of LA Cafe? [/blue]
-Because I stay in this area all the time I know the streets to not walk on, you’re from NY so you know what doesn’t look right. Most of the well lit street here are just fine, I’ve been out there by myself many times all hours of the night. Just remember never get in a argument with a Filipino, if someone offers you something just say you’re in a hurry to meet someone and keep moving, don’t start a dialog with anyone you don’t know out on the street late at night. Don’t hook up with girls in this area on the street at night, mainly because it may not be a lady. Plus if someone is trying to get you to exchange money here or there, just say I have enough pesos and keep moving don’t stop. If someone offers you “young” lady, don’t except, this will only lead to a setup bust that will cost you out the ass. Meet a lady at the club, talk to her and see what her demeanor is, your instincts will normally always be right.
After another visit to LA Cafe, I brought someone to my room I later caught red handed stealing money hidden in my suitcase. (And I really thought I hid it well.) Needless to say, she went out on her ass. Anyone have suggestions on securing valuables? I later hired a hotel driver to tour the city.[/blue]
-If you don’t have a safe in the room, most hotels offer safety deposit boxes, I use these at the Cherry Blossom. If they don’t or you just don’t feel comfortable using the box at the desk, you should have a good lock for your suit case. When I’m in this situation the first thing I do in the room is get all valuables in the suit case and lock it up. Only have enough money for the evening. I have a friend that had this girl he met at LA Café take his cell phone, she left him the cell body cover and SIM, a thief with a heart I suppose. If you do this when you get to the room and the girl is in the shower, open your locked suit case put all things not in it already in it and lock it back up, use a combo lock to because she will look for the key maybe. Only keep out enough to pay her or the tip if she has already been paid. LA Café ladies, you should pay around php1500-2000 only, you only fuck up the market when you pay them more.
After a boring thirty minutes of showing me the ‘Great Sites of Manila’ (at 1am) the driver asks if I’m interested in meeting women. “Of course”, I say, and off we go. We first travel along a street close to Makati that had a lot of adult establishments. I ask if we’re stopping, and he curtly responds, “No. There are too many undesirables here. It would be very unsafe for you.” (During my stay, I heard this line repeated by so many guides that I was terrified of going anywhere unescorted. With retrospection, I realize that it’s probably Lesson #1 in the Hustler’s Playbook: Keep the sucker’s wallet within reach. After returning home and reviewing this board, I’m absolutely sure that street was P. Burgos. If I see this driver the next time I’m in Manila, he’s getting a beat down.) [/blue]
-Best to have your plan where you want to go, when he said “too many undesirables here”, that means they won’t pay him or he’s fucked up his welcome at those places. Sometimes it’s best to have the guy take you to the mall or the some restaurant then tell him to get lost you will find your way home.
Our first stop was a strip joint called Athena on Roxas Blvd (in Pasay?) The driver accompanies me inside and introduces me to the proprietress as a newbie. The games resume. I politely avoid any price negotiation as I refuse to allow the driver to enjoy any kickbacks due to this obvious setup. Besides, I really want to just check out the place, chilling with a drink, and seeing where a conversation with a random honey may lead. The dancing was decent and the music surprisingly current. I had a drink with a 9 who offered to meet me at my room after her shift. I was content with learning that you can arrange to meet ladies on the DL and I summarily filed this tip. After a while, I conclude that club Athena too much resembles a tourist trap, so I pay the bill and tell the driver we’re leaving. .[/blue]
-You’re right the driver gets kickbacks for bringing you there
The next spot, Casino Royale, is not really a casino, it’s a casa (the card says Makati). About twenty ladies were available at the time I arrived (3am). I thought it a nice touch that a few called out, “Pick me Sir”, with enthusiastic smiles. It didn’t take long to pick out a 10, whose name I completely forget. We went back to my room (negotiated to 50usd) where she delivered a knockout performance. I had revisited Casino Royale and another casa during my time in Manila, picking up a total of three honeys. All three had consistently delivered better service than anyone I had picked up at LA Café. Is this the norm? Or luck of the draw? .[/blue]
-I’ve never tried a casa sounds interesting, maybe on my next trip.
Because I was too busy jetting to Dumaguete and Tacloban, I didn’t get an opportunity to explore Manila to the extent I had planned. I completely missed out on P. Burgos and EDSA. I’d go over my experiences in Dumaguete and Tacloban here, but I guess that’s other threads. But I will mention that I found it easier and cheaper hooking up with honeys in these cities than in the capital city. Would you guys say this is consistent with your experiences? To finish, I’ll just list some general observations about Manila: .[/blue]
-I find it easy to hook up most places in the PI, some takes some planning. In Manila not much planning will get you hooked up at the Mall, in a club and just about anywhere you go.
Along Roxas Blvd, there seems to be a waterfront with a lot of festival-like activity. Is it safe for foreigners to take a stroll alone here? How likely is it to score here? [/blue]
-I’ve been here many times at night; it’s a short walk from LA Café if you just need to get out for a few minutes. I’ve never had any problems at the Bay Walk, but common sense I’ve discussed before is the rule of thumb.
It seemed that action could be had anywhere, providing that you have the eye for identifying opportunities and your game is tight enough. Due to culture differences, it will take some time for the Western newbie to fully develop the ‘eye’. [/blue]
-Yes, you are right Grass Hopper. (old kung fu thing). You will develop, the problem is action can be had all over and you start working on one and a better one comes along. I think the thing to work on in the PI is the tactful way to dismiss yourself from one lady and engaging yourself with another one in what appears to be a better catch. Yes that’s what takes work.
Respect. Respect. Respect. I’ve always believed that respect and courtesy can turn around more delicate situations than we give them credit for. In the Philippines, this theory was put to the test and proven several times. In dealings with people, on any level, a display of courtesy and respect will take you a long way. [/blue]
-You are very right here. Don’t ever make a Filipino lose “face” in front of others, if you do you will pay later.
I had my quad-band phone unlocked in one of the Malls in Makati (2,500pesos). After that, all you do is buy a sim for 150pesos and you’re ready to go. I had a hard time finding someone to unlock my particular phone in NYC, so I was surprised when the first place I visited in Makati had it done in thirty minutes. [/blue]
-I have a Motorola Raz from Cingular, I got it unlocked in the mall for php400, I think that was too high too. The guy started at php3000.00.
It seemed that every honey I hooked up with had difficulty when it was time to part. Some even cried. I need to work on the art of the ‘graceful disconnect.’ Any advice? [/blue]
In the morning, have breakfast with her, thank her for the great time, if she gave excellent service a tip would be in order and tell her you have some business to tend to and will have to get ready to go. Tell her it’s time for her to go so you can get moving and on your way. Get her number, don’t give her yours and send her on her way. Then after she leaves go back to sleep or call one of the honeys’ you met and got a cell number from and have them come over for some morning fun.
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The below was written by a guy on another board over 4 years ago, if I have a friend going to the PI for the first time I let them read this:
This was written by the "Corpsman" on the AC2 Board
Dealing with Philippino Men
I would like to offer my own suggestions and opinions on what I have gathered over the years being here in the P.I. dealing with the males here. My experience ranges from knock down drag out fights a couple of times with them to having 5 of them as employees.
There are distinct social classes here in the P.I. and it ranges from the educated upper class philippinos with money who have nothing to do with the lower class philippinos. They don't mix except maybe at family gathering if they are related and there is still anger and animosity towards those with money and those who don't have even if they are related to each other.
The tourists here on fields ave A.C.mostly deal with the low end of the philippino male class and when they leave the P.I. they have an extremely negative view of philippinos in general.
When dealing with the lower class philippino it is best not to get involved with them. They are very very easily offended at any slight that they may percieve is being directed towards them and will react in violence. This is a macho hispanic culture for the most part.
Stay away from philippinos who are drinking and politely refuse and just smile if they offer you a drink. Sooner or later you will be the one who will end up paying the bill and it will be very hard to extricate yourself from this position one you have started it without offending them. Philippinos have been known time and time again to kill close friends and relatives over just one insult during drinking sprees and hundreds of stabbings occur in drinking establishments over stares and mispercieved threats or insults.
You may be the biggest man in the world and huge, but you will not win in a fight with 20 philippinos and you will lose and end up stabbed before it is over.
Keeping away from drunk philippinos, and not engaging in hardcore staring at them and walking away from insults being hurled at you is not being a pussy in the P.I. it is called being smart and surviving to be able to get the hell out of here alive.
I have seen instances when the forienger has done nothing whatsoever to warrant a jumping by 5 philippinos or getting sucker punched at night time and robbed. This is just anger spilling over and being directed towards the forienger who is percieved to have an edge economically and with philippinas who want to leave this country and will go with any foreigner to achieve this.
Remember you are here as well as I am, with our dollars and we are fucking their woman night and day, hundreds of times. This has been going on for hundreds of years through the spanish times and american bases and so on. This tends to build up a hatred and hostile attitude towards foriengn males in general.
There are some of you who will say bullshit I fucked their sister or aunt or daughter and they don't care or they are happy that I'm fucking their sister, aunt, daughter or Whatever and have never said nothing to me about it. In their minds they hate you. You are a source of money for them and that is the only way they would ever tolerate you being with their woman and fucking them. And if you step out of line and hurt one of theirs or don't pay up they will kill you or at least beat your ass or try to find you and pay revenge on you.
A forienger will never be a close friend to a philippino as would another philippino to a philippino. You are a forienger period. There are also those on this board who have tricked themselves or are in the delusion that they have close philippino male friends. If you go to most expat locations outside of fields like La union, subic, baguio, etc. the retirees stay amongst themselves and away from philippinos for good reason and you should ask them why, I did and I do not want to repeat what they told me because I would be flamed to hell and back. Just to suffice it to say that they do it to stay alive and well in the P.I. and when they need a philippino to do some job for them or whatever they have them do it and that is it. It ends there. No trying to be friends or best buddys because they know after years and years of living here the truth and how to relate to them.
Some of you may say, Wait a minute I was invited to party with my girlfriends family and I encounted no hostile attitudes and they were nice to me. Yes of course they would not, that would kill the deal and money flow.
To sum up:
Be friendly and smile to them. Nothing wrong with just shooting the shit and saying hi how are you and so on. Shaking hands goes along way also and buying a beer now and then, but not staying to join is a good idea.
Don't engage in serious eye to eye contact as this is a serious threat to them and means war. Sometimes you may get away with it but sooner or later it will catch up.
If you bump into one while walking best to say your sorry and smile and walk away. Its not the right time to argue and shout as this will escalate the situation and the philippino will lose face in front of his country men and will have to get it back by violence and others will help him get it back against you.
Don't hit or shout loudly or call philippinas sluts and bitches in front of a group of trike drivers or males on the corner. Not a smart thing to do. You should get your ass kicked if your doing this anyway.
Don't push or shove people in the street. This is inviting trouble. Keep your hands to yourself. I did this to a vendor once who was a little to aggressive and was surrounded by 20 of them in a new york minute and then I apoligized and offered to buy him a beer and it was forgotten and settled. I could have been mister big man and taken on the vendor assoc, but i would have lost.
The fights that I mentioned that I was in earlier in my post was just plain survival and their was only two and it was at night and no other philippinos were around to help them not get their asses kicked. In that situation I used pepper spray and rocks. I'm in good shape and in my late 20's. I don't know if I would have done it again as one of them could have had a gun. Most males who are of the street class carry something as a weapon, whether a ice pick, knife, homemade gun. You never know.
Bill Buxton
07-03-06, 02:56
Gumby, I'm no expert, but I have been to the PI many times. I've tried to answer a few of your questions, hope it helps you out. Others will have different ideas, this is just mine. Really sounds like you enjoyed your trip, time to start planning the next one.
RaZZoR
-Next time you make flight arrangements check with NWA they have specials where tickets can be as cheap as $650.00 around twice a year during off season.
-The domestic tickets run about the same most of the time, but sometimes they have fair specials and they could be as low as $50.00 round trip where you are going. You can get the tickets almost anywhere, but I would recommend you get them in the mall at the official Philippine Airline office. More or less if you just wait to get them in the PI you will pay the same as you did, but you may save and you would have less trouble changing the ticket if you wanted to stay somewhere longer.
-It’s best to use the official transportation at the airport unless the hotel will pick you up without jamming you like you got. I used to go upstairs to the departures and jump a taxi that just dropped someone off, this doesn’t work as well anymore because the police and security will stop them and make you get out because they are not the official taxi. Plus this is high risk doing that. When you do take a taxi and you feel the driver is fucken insane, act like your calling someone on your cell and tell them your driver’s name and what taxi you’re in and you’ll be there in a few minutes. I have taken more than 100 taxi rides in Manila, most are no problem, always remember to tell them to turn the meter on or you don’t ride. You can remind them of the php3000 fine for a defective meter or not using it. I know my way around Manila so I know if the driver is taken me the wrong way or somewhere I shouldn’t be around and this is a factor not knowing your way around. Just remember if the area looks like you shouldn’t be there ask the driver to take you to the area around the US Embassy Now. I have had a driver take me through Tondo in the day time; you wouldn’t want to be in this area at night. If a driver is taken you through a area like that he know he shouldn’t best to look for a place to bale and fine another taxi. Most Filipinas you will meet don’t really know the taxi stuff very well because they take Jeeps and buses around Manila most of the time so don’t expect great advice from a bar girl on taxi’s.
-Most of the time I stay at the Cherry Blossom next to Robinson Mall in Ermita and a 5 minute walk to the LA Café. Not the best hotel in Manila, it’s clean, large rooms, girl friendly, 1 minute walk to the mall and for less than $30.00 a night. I have stayed at the Pan Pacific in Ermita for less than $100 with on line reservation and that is top notch place to stay. There are many places in the Ermita area that are decent for less than $50 a night. For myself I find Ermita to be the best place to stay and get around.
-No need to make arrangements with taxi drivers like that. Only if you pay them say php500 for 3 or 4 hours flat rate. Later in your report you discuss the taxi driver taking you where he wants to take you and not really where you want to go. He gets a fee when he took you to one of these places and you bar fine, but this is reflected in the price you pay. Best to tell the driver to take you to X spot and then they should go, sometimes they hang around and wait for you act like they are taking care of you. They are only trying to see if you leave and take you somewhere else they may collect a fee. This is why I like Erimta so much, I don’t have to take Taxi at night, so many bars and places to hang out I don’t get wrapped up with the taxi problems at night.
-LA Café, been there so many times…. Sounds like your friend is what I refer to as one of the “Sharks”. When you walk in the door to your left it’s the Shark Pit, when Jackie brought you in you didn’t have a chance in the Pit, unless you picked up and walked around. Best to stay away from the ones who are in that area, they are there all the time. I know a lady who is in the Pit every time I go to the LA Café, she was the first girl I stuffed in the PI in Sep 1995 in Angeles City.
-Because I stay in this area all the time I know the streets to not walk on, you’re from NY so you know what doesn’t look right. Most of the well lit street here are just fine, I’ve been out there by myself many times all hours of the night. Just remember never get in a argument with a Filipino, if someone offers you something just say you’re in a hurry to meet someone and keep moving, don’t start a dialog with anyone you don’t know out on the street late at night. Don’t hook up with girls in this area on the street at night, mainly because it may not be a lady. Plus if someone is trying to get you to exchange money here or there, just say I have enough pesos and keep moving don’t stop. If someone offers you “young” lady, don’t except, this will only lead to a setup bust that will cost you out the ass. Meet a lady at the club, talk to her and see what her demeanor is, your instincts will normally always be right.
-If you don’t have a safe in the room, most hotels offer safety deposit boxes, I use these at the Cherry Blossom. If they don’t or you just don’t feel comfortable using the box at the desk, you should have a good lock for your suit case. When I’m in this situation the first thing I do in the room is get all valuables in the suit case and lock it up. Only have enough money for the evening. I have a friend that had this girl he met at LA Café take his cell phone, she left him the cell body cover and SIM, a thief with a heart I suppose. If you do this when you get to the room and the girl is in the shower, open your locked suit case put all things not in it already in it and lock it back up, use a combo lock to because she will look for the key maybe. Only keep out enough to pay her or the tip if she has already been paid. LA Café ladies, you should pay around php1500-2000 only, you only fuck up the market when you pay them more.
-Best to have your plan where you want to go, when he said “too many undesirables here”, that means they won’t pay him or he’s fucked up his welcome at those places. Sometimes it’s best to have the guy take you to the mall or the some restaurant then tell him to get lost you will find your way home.
-You’re right the driver gets kickbacks for bringing you there
-I’ve never tried a casa sounds interesting, maybe on my next trip.
-I find it easy to hook up most places in the PI, some takes some planning. In Manila not much planning will get you hooked up at the Mall, in a club and just about anywhere you go.
-I’ve been here many times at night; it’s a short walk from LA Café if you just need to get out for a few minutes. I’ve never had any problems at the Bay Walk, but common sense I’ve discussed before is the rule of thumb.
-Yes, you are right Grass Hopper. (old kung fu thing). You will develop, the problem is action can be had all over and you start working on one and a better one comes along. I think the thing to work on in the PI is the tactful way to dismiss yourself from one lady and engaging yourself with another one in what appears to be a better catch. Yes that’s what takes work.
-You are very right here. Don’t ever make a Filipino lose “face” in front of others, if you do you will pay later.
-I have a Motorola Raz from Cingular, I got it unlocked in the mall for php400, I think that was too high too. The guy started at php3000.00.
In the morning, have breakfast with her, thank her for the great time, if she gave excellent service a tip would be in order and tell her you have some business to tend to and will have to get ready to go. Tell her it’s time for her to go so you can get moving and on your way. Get her number, don’t give her yours and send her on her way. Then after she leaves go back to sleep or call one of the honeys’ you met and got a cell number from and have them come over for some morning fun.
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The below was written by a guy on another board over 4 years ago, if I have a friend going to the PI for the first time I let them read this:
This was written by the "Corpsman" on the AC2 Board
Dealing with Philippino Men
I would like to offer my own suggestions and opinions on what I have gathered over the years being here in the P.I. dealing with the males here. My experience ranges from knock down drag out fights a couple of times with them to having 5 of them as employees.
There are distinct social classes here in the P.I. and it ranges from the educated upper class philippinos with money who have nothing to do with the lower class philippinos. They don't mix except maybe at family gathering if they are related and there is still anger and animosity towards those with money and those who don't have even if they are related to each other.
The tourists here on fields ave A.C.mostly deal with the low end of the philippino male class and when they leave the P.I. they have an extremely negative view of philippinos in general.
When dealing with the lower class philippino it is best not to get involved with them. They are very very easily offended at any slight that they may percieve is being directed towards them and will react in violence. This is a macho hispanic culture for the most part.
Stay away from philippinos who are drinking and politely refuse and just smile if they offer you a drink. Sooner or later you will be the one who will end up paying the bill and it will be very hard to extricate yourself from this position one you have started it without offending them. Philippinos have been known time and time again to kill close friends and relatives over just one insult during drinking sprees and hundreds of stabbings occur in drinking establishments over stares and mispercieved threats or insults.
You may be the biggest man in the world and huge, but you will not win in a fight with 20 philippinos and you will lose and end up stabbed before it is over.
Keeping away from drunk philippinos, and not engaging in hardcore staring at them and walking away from insults being hurled at you is not being a pussy in the P.I. it is called being smart and surviving to be able to get the hell out of here alive.
I have seen instances when the forienger has done nothing whatsoever to warrant a jumping by 5 philippinos or getting sucker punched at night time and robbed. This is just anger spilling over and being directed towards the forienger who is percieved to have an edge economically and with philippinas who want to leave this country and will go with any foreigner to achieve this.
Remember you are here as well as I am, with our dollars and we are fucking their woman night and day, hundreds of times. This has been going on for hundreds of years through the spanish times and american bases and so on. This tends to build up a hatred and hostile attitude towards foriengn males in general.
There are some of you who will say bullshit I fucked their sister or aunt or daughter and they don't care or they are happy that I'm fucking their sister, aunt, daughter or Whatever and have never said nothing to me about it. In their minds they hate you. You are a source of money for them and that is the only way they would ever tolerate you being with their woman and fucking them. And if you step out of line and hurt one of theirs or don't pay up they will kill you or at least beat your ass or try to find you and pay revenge on you.
A forienger will never be a close friend to a philippino as would another philippino to a philippino. You are a forienger period. There are also those on this board who have tricked themselves or are in the delusion that they have close philippino male friends. If you go to most expat locations outside of fields like La union, subic, baguio, etc. the retirees stay amongst themselves and away from philippinos for good reason and you should ask them why, I did and I do not want to repeat what they told me because I would be flamed to hell and back. Just to suffice it to say that they do it to stay alive and well in the P.I. and when they need a philippino to do some job for them or whatever they have them do it and that is it. It ends there. No trying to be friends or best buddys because they know after years and years of living here the truth and how to relate to them.
Some of you may say, Wait a minute I was invited to party with my girlfriends family and I encounted no hostile attitudes and they were nice to me. Yes of course they would not, that would kill the deal and money flow.
To sum up:
Be friendly and smile to them. Nothing wrong with just shooting the shit and saying hi how are you and so on. Shaking hands goes along way also and buying a beer now and then, but not staying to join is a good idea.
Don't engage in serious eye to eye contact as this is a serious threat to them and means war. Sometimes you may get away with it but sooner or later it will catch up.
If you bump into one while walking best to say your sorry and smile and walk away. Its not the right time to argue and shout as this will escalate the situation and the philippino will lose face in front of his country men and will have to get it back by violence and others will help him get it back against you.
Don't hit or shout loudly or call philippinas sluts and bitches in front of a group of trike drivers or males on the corner. Not a smart thing to do. You should get your ass kicked if your doing this anyway.
Don't push or shove people in the street. This is inviting trouble. Keep your hands to yourself. I did this to a vendor once who was a little to aggressive and was surrounded by 20 of them in a new york minute and then I apoligized and offered to buy him a beer and it was forgotten and settled. I could have been mister big man and taken on the vendor assoc, but i would have lost.
The fights that I mentioned that I was in earlier in my post was just plain survival and their was only two and it was at night and no other philippinos were around to help them not get their asses kicked. In that situation I used pepper spray and rocks. I'm in good shape and in my late 20's. I don't know if I would have done it again as one of them could have had a gun. Most males who are of the street class carry something as a weapon, whether a ice pick, knife, homemade gun. You never know.
Yes they will side with the person from there own country before letting the foreigner have a deal As for the cell phone the 4oo p is a good price at the mall beat them down.
The people around are always looking to get over on us so never leave the cell camera or anything unattended anywhere.They have you look in one direction and when you turn back your shit is GONE.Just that fast.
A drink will go a long distance when it comes time for a quick exit so be nice and try and shake hands and say hi to any door men and others that could get you out of a jam.
Respect is easy and to eat crow is a wise thing to remember here.Save the last word for back home...
DR,BUXTON...
Years ago in Korea they used to say slicky boy was so good he could take the radio and leave the music behind (PI had about the same rap)
Does anyone have the phone number of the Firehouse in EDSA Entertainment Complex? Need to contact a girl there.
Thanks
Cebu Local
07-05-06, 10:36
Does anyone have the phone number of the Firehouse in EDSA Entertainment Complex? Need to contact a girl there.
Thanks
Beep Thank you for calling Directory Assistance,The number is 632-834-2813 or 8343812 Thank you for calling Monger International Directory Assistance Now you owe me a beer.
GoodEnough
07-07-06, 08:25
Guiness:
CL is also a friend of mine, and I'll be seeing him next week. You know and I know that he's one of the nicest people on this planet and he needs no defending from me or from anyone else. His friends know who he is, and why should he care whatever those who may not be his friends think?
Cebu Local
07-08-06, 00:00
I understand that some people get embarassed when the the truth comes out and perhaps that is Why the Surfer could not accept that there were no multiple ID s.But I was clearly having Coffee with one guy at Ziggurat,The other was tapping away at 88 Internet Cafe and Another was in the Peninsula registered as Senator Real Name.Anyway I will continue to provide advice and Information and Validate Stuff as needed.GE See you soon Cheers
Cebu Local is the most trusted and helpful person on the Philippine thread. He has assisted hundreds if not thousands of people traveling to the P.I. In addition, he was the voice of reason during the Dannah Mae controversy while others were attacking her for no reason. I think it's disgraceful Surfer has attacked the reputation of this kind person.
The Philippine section has been peaceful for quite a while until Surfer drifted into town. It would be nice if he would go back to the Colombia section where he is continuing his attack on others.
Teddy Bear 99
07-08-06, 08:09
As for the safety of the area, all I can tell you is when the guy I went to manila with (he grew up there) and his cousins saw the area LA Cafe was in, they were horrified that I had gone there alone. I don't know if they were just being over protective or if its really that bad of an area...But most of the filipinos I talk to seem to think its pretty dangerous. However I have been wanting to ask the board's perspective on this also. How bad of an area is it? I havn't seen any posts like "I got beat down/robbed at LA Cafe" so I have to assume its alright.
However I was there a number of times and never had a problem. I even walked down the street to Amazonia (about a block) and had no problem at all, but it was full day light and I had a lady with me. I have a feeling that with all of the westerners that frequent both places, measures are kept to keep them safe. I think the last thing any filipino business owner would want is something discouraging western money from coming to his or her place.
I stayed for a month at the Manila Pavilon many different times. I had no problem walking from the hotel to LA Cafe. I am 5'9, 275 lbs. I walk like I know where I am going, if someone tries to approach me I wave them off or shake my head no. If someone persists, I stop and look them directly in the eye and say no very sternly. I have never had a problem even walking at 3 am.
Some people may say I am crazy, but I have been trained in the martial arts on how to defend myself. Also 2 of my nephews are PNP officers, who showed me the ropes.
GoodEnough
07-08-06, 09:37
I'm about 5'7", 60+ years old, never been trained in the martial arts, non-combative, and never had a single problem walking back and forth between Amazonia and LA Cafe. Never been threatened, never had so much as a hostile stare, and am never afraid of that street.
I don't know what the situation may be on the side streets and I do not plan to find out, but I'm reasonably sure that Del Pilar is totally safe. If you're worried, have a taxi drop you at the door, and then take a taxi from the door to wherever else you may want to go. I get somewhat pissed off at the guys trying to hustle me into taxi's with "no meter" so I usually walk to the middle of the street and flag down a metered taxi.
Like anywhere else in the PI, it's wise to remain prudent and not to carry much money. I always leave the credit cards, driver's license and anything else of value and/or with a picture in the hotel safe before I leave the room. I never carry more than P5,000 or war any expensive jewelry and try hard never to call attention to myself. It seems to work.
:D
GE
While PROV & DD ALWAYS seem to post in unison, creating reasonable suspicion they are one and the same, you are credible and I have NEVER made any such accusation against you. You validated that they are separate and I accept that. Guiness is obviously another friend of those two (though he has not previously participated in their joint jihaad against me after pointing out Don's pattern of racist postings-doubt you have ANY interest but I can cut and paste them for you).
I trust you see through their clumsy attempt to create an impression that I have "attacked" you when nothing could be further from the truth. I NEVER suggested you were part of their "circle jerK' and the quote Guiness posted attempting to instigate a dispute between you and I says no such thing. Salamat Kuya.
Fog Ducker
07-08-06, 22:45
Like GE, I carry cash as needed and leave all other documents like driver's licence, passport, etc in the hotel safe. When in town I walk all over the Ermita area and have had no problem. At night I limit the areas I walk in to Del Pilar, Roxas Boulevard and other thoroughfares that have night life and other tourists. In the mornings just be careful to step over the sleeping kids.
For some reason local Filipino's freak out when I tell them I walk around Ermita. As Xtorted Decay says, they think this place is full of thieves, robbers, muggers, pick pockets, etc.
Bill Buxton
07-09-06, 17:58
Like GE, I carry cash as needed and leave all other documents like driver's licence, passport, etc in the hotel safe. When in town I walk all over the Ermita area and have had no problem. At night I limit the areas I walk in to Del Pilar, Roxas Boulevard and other thoroughfares that have night life and other tourists. In the mornings just be careful to step over the sleeping kids.
For some reason local Filipino's freak out when I tell them I walk around Ermita. As Xtorted Decay says, they think this place is full of thieves, robbers, muggers, pick pockets, etc.
I was told there was no crime in the areas mentioned.Nice to see someone else walked around with his eyes wide open.
B.B...
Cebu Local
07-09-06, 23:39
While PROV & DD ALWAYS seem to post in unison, creating reasonable suspicion they are one and the same, you are credible and I have NEVER made any such accusation against you. You validated that they are separate and I accept that. Guiness is obviously another friend of those two (though he has not previously participated in their joint jihaad against me after pointing out Don's pattern of racist postings-doubt you have ANY interest but I can cut and paste them for you).
I trust you see through their clumsy attempt to create an impression that I have "attacked" you when nothing could be further from the truth. I NEVER suggested you were part of their "circle jerK' and the quote Guiness posted attempting to instigate a dispute between you and I says no such thing. Salamat Kuya.Duly noted and Thanks for the Clarification.Best Regards
As I PM'd CL, I NEVER "attacked" him at all and I challenge you two to put up [your evidence] or shut up. Quit instigating flame wars or trying to involve others like CL in your dispute with me (because I called "the Senator" on his racist posts in the Colombia folder).
Trying to start flame wars is all Prov ever does, and why Jackson has not banned him (despite putting him on final warning long ago) is beyond me. Prov is a paradigm of "serial antagonist" and adds absolutely nothing of any value. While I find Dashingdon's racist comments offensive, at least he tries to post some info and photos, unlike Prov who only posts to flame. Guiness has heretofore refrained from shit disturbing so one can hope his post is an isolated incident.
Quit wasting everybody's time as the members come here looking for info on Filipinas, not your stupid little attempt to discredit me for criticizing your Senator.
Fast Eddie 48
07-11-06, 07:57
Like GE, I carry cash as needed and leave all other documents like driver's licence, passport, etc in the hotel safe. When in town I walk all over the Ermita area and have had no problem. At night I limit the areas I walk in to Del Pilar, Roxas Boulevard and other thoroughfares that have night life and other tourists. In the mornings just be careful to step over the sleeping kids.
For some reason local Filipino's freak out when I tell them I walk around Ermita. As Xtorted Decay says, they think this place is full of thieves, robbers, muggers, pick pockets, etc.
to fog ducker
Emrita is full of beggar, pimp and hustler not muggers and robbers.
fast eddie 48
Hey guys,
I will be in Manila on vacation in a couple months. I have a few questions.
1. It will be a family trip...no friends coming with me. Just my, my parents, and my sisters.
Now obviously I can't go to the clubs with them.
So I will be alone. Does this make the whole thing much more difficult?
Will they see me as less approachable since I'm by myself?
2. So I walk into a bar like Firehouse...what exactly do I do, just walk up to a waitress or bartender and say "I'm interested in a girl"?? And if so, do they automatically assume that I mean a prostitute?
3. I have no where to take the girl, since I will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do I have where I won't have to spend much extra?
just go to the bar. they will come to you. buy a girl a drink and ask questions. you'll learn a lot.
i prefer to make eye contact with whoever attracts my interest. if you need to speed things up, talk to one of the older ladies (mamasan). tell her who you like and she'll call the girl over...sometimes right off the dance stage.
i suppose some guys here will have recommendations for short-time hotels, but again, the ladies will usually know a place. i've never had to do this though.
of course you are advertising yourself as a complete newbie, so they might try to get you to overpay. for short time from firehouse, give her 1000 and if she complains, give her another 500.
btw, the dance shows at makati, burgos (jools and one other place) are quite professional. what do the rest of you guys think? would you take family members to such a show? i think i would, but my family members are realatively open minded.
x
x
hey guys,
i will be in manila on vacation in a couple months. i have a few questions.
1. it will be a family trip...no friends coming with me. just my, my parents, and my sisters.
now obviously i can't go to the clubs with them.
so i will be alone. does this make the whole thing much more difficult?
will they see me as less approachable since i'm by myself?
2. so i walk into a bar like firehouse...what exactly do i do, just walk up to a waitress or bartender and say "i'm interested in a girl"?? and if so, do they automatically assume that i mean a prostitute?
3. i have no where to take the girl, since i will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do i have where i won't have to spend much extra?
GoodEnough
07-13-06, 02:49
I think X Man covered the essential points. Remember though, in the Edsa complex and in the Burgos bars, there are no "normal" girls, and most, if not all, are there for hire. You do not really need to ask "for a girl" and your only problem will be deciding which one or which ones you want. I've run into two "virgins" on Burgos who allegedly don't go with customers. This is a rare exception however.
Remember, that this is a business, and there's little luck or skill involved in purchasing the commodity that's being sold. Tell the girl of your choice that you want to pay her bar fine. She will nod and call over the mamasan, who will take your money. The girl will then disappear for a few minutes to change into street clothes, and off you go. I'm sure that every girl working in every bar in Manila knows all of the short time hotels. If you like whomever you pick up, then get her cell phone number and you can make arrangements directly with her after the first time with no hassles and no barfine.
:D
GE
Fast Eddie 48
07-13-06, 03:38
Hey guys,
I will be in Manila on vacation in a couple months. I have a few questions.
1. It will be a family trip...no friends coming with me. Just my, my parents, and my sisters.
Now obviously I can't go to the clubs with them.
So I will be alone. Does this make the whole thing much more difficult?
Will they see me as less approachable since I'm by myself?
2. So I walk into a bar like Firehouse...what exactly do I do, just walk up to a waitress or bartender and say "I'm interested in a girl"?? And if so, do they automatically assume that I mean a prostitute?
3. I have no where to take the girl, since I will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do I have where I won't have to spend much extra?
to ralek
I think you should go to place like phoenix one in makati is a massage place
that offer fs and you can do this during the day and spend evening with your
family , Why don't you take your father with you there is many massage place
in manila just ask any taxi dude they will take you there .
I know you are a newbie and new to p4p just go to a bar and check it out I
am sure you will like it girl in manila offer gfe and are very friendly .
fast eddie 48
Fastpiston
07-13-06, 05:59
Just as a Heads Up - there is a gang going around the malls in Alabang looking for foreigners to mug. The technique is to seek out foreigners alone and use a knock out spray on the victim when the victim is alone, before robbing them. Watch carefully for this, especially if you are followed into a CR etc.
Stand In I
07-15-06, 11:23
Ralek ... "3. I have no where to take the girl, since I will be staying at a hotel w/ my family...so what options do I have where I won't have to spend much extra?"
Two options. First, ask the mama-san where is there a cheap short-time hotel. Second, ask a taxicab driver.
If you are at the Edsa Entertainment Complex Center, exit out, turn left, and walk to the corner. From there, you can see a motel-type place called Queensland about 100 meters away and across the street. To the right, across Edsa (a 8-lane street full of traffic and no nearby traffic lights) about 150 meters away, there are five or six short-time motels. The newest is the Sogo Hotel. All of these places charge about 500 peso (about $10) for several hours of use. They have different prices for different types of rooms, but the lowest-priced room, named something like a taxi room) is usually not available in the late evening.
If you are in the Ermita neighborhood, there are cheap hotels around for around $20. Aussies tend to favor those hotels for their visits. Ask the bartender or manager for a recommendation of a short-time room.
If you are in a Burgos club, there are a couple of clubs that have a room in the back or upstairs. They usually charge extra.
If you are in a KTV, you are in the wrong place because the vast majority are more expensive than the three areas mentioned above. By the way, a few KTVs are for family and others to sing together in privacy.
Of course, for afternoon delights, there are massage parlors, where you do not need to go out for a quickie.
Stand In (a substitute for someone else)
Thanks for the responses guys.
Anyone else use filipinaheart.com? I just set up an account there...I'll only be in Manila for 1 week, and most of the girls on this site seem to be looking for a serious relationship. I was wondering if anyone had any luck w/ getting a one night stnad with any of these girls.
Hi to all,
Im flying back to PI august 4 and stay first night or first 2 nights in Manila.
I did some search on MP here, but the nearest I found was some MP along airport road starfleet or airforce one, it escaped my name.
Is there any nice MP in ermita area? I stay at Bayview park hotel along manila bay, if its gud I extend if not I move to Kimberly hotel which also looks nice.
After a long flight I liked to have a nice massage (with happy ending) but I dont like to drive so far from the area I stay.
Any PM also welcome. Please advise or give directions. Im not a newbie , but a newbie in nightlife in Ermita and also newbie in MP in that area.
Thanks , I wil post my experience here.
Happy hunting!!!
Blink
Fast Eddie 48
07-18-06, 07:50
Thanks for the responses guys.
Anyone else use filipinaheart.com? I just set up an account there...I'll only be in Manila for 1 week, and most of the girls on this site seem to be looking for a serious relationship. I was wondering if anyone had any luck w/ getting a one night stnad with any of these girls.
to RALEK
Don't waste time if you are only got a week , Most girls just want to meet
rich foreign to get marry ,If you want action go to LA cafe and burgos and
p4p time is money .
fast eddie 48
Fast Eddie 48
07-18-06, 16:54
Hi to all,
Im flying back to PI august 4 and stay first night or first 2 nights in Manila.
I did some search on MP here, but the nearest I found was some MP along airport road starfleet or airforce one, it escaped my name.
Is there any nice MP in ermita area? I stay at Bayview park hotel along manila bay, if its gud I extend if not I move to Kimberly hotel which also looks nice.
After a long flight I liked to have a nice massage (with happy ending) but I dont like to drive so far from the area I stay.
Any PM also welcome. Please advise or give directions. Im not a newbie , but a newbie in nightlife in Ermita and also newbie in MP in that area.
Thanks , I wil post my experience here.
Happy hunting!!!
Blink
TO BLINK
There used to be Skyline health spa at Bivd Grand hotel at Roxas at Malate
but it was closed last Nov not sure that it reopening or not ,It was a great
place to get a nice massage and FS girl is good quality .
There are many low end massage place in malate 1500-2500 peso for massage and FS but not as nice as the one near the airport another good
place for massage is makaiti area , I am sure there may be some in Ermita but
never been to any.
fast eddie 48
Ilongo_boy
07-18-06, 19:47
HI there,
Starfleet is still there, near the airport.
Skyline is now called Mercury Spa and its still on the 8th floor at Grand blvd.
There is a place called Palacio Don Pedro (PDP) just 2 minutes walking distance from Burgos.
Have a great time.
IB
TO BLINK
There used to be Skyline health spa at Bivd Grand hotel at Roxas at Malate
but it was closed last Nov not sure that it reopening or not ,It was a great
place to get a nice massage and FS girl is good quality .
There are many low end massage place in malate 1500-2500 peso for massage and FS but not as nice as the one near the airport another good
place for massage is makaiti area , I am sure there may be some in Ermita but
never been to any.
fast eddie 48
Hello guys,
thanks for the info on MP ilongo_boy and fast eddie48. I will try thos eplaces once Im there.
Even Im not a newbie in PI, I went first time for barfine at Edsa last year and I think I paid to much for the gurls. 2000 to 3000 plus barfine for allnight/short time.
I dont know , but I dont wana ruin a GFE when I barfine the gurl and talk about money before also discuss about bj etc etc. On the other side I also dont want to overpay or gettin bad service.
So lets talk about this. You have made eyecontact to ur future barfine, you invite her for a drink, now u discuss prize and services. She ask for 3 000 short time and 5000 overnight, which isnt unlikely in Edsa and you just offer half of it. So what happens?? Either she will agree, or you have to say gudbye, walk out and try ur luck in the next bar, talk to another gurl, buy another drink, etc etc. So all in all you might waste tme and aditional money for ladydrinks etc etc. I not saying I would spent 5000 p but someting between 2000 and 3000 is reasonable? Or do I pay to much??
Maybe you guys share some experiences in bargaining and get a gud price without losing face and pissing ur future barfine off and spoiling the GFE.
Im talkin about one or two nights in Manila, after that I go to my gf in AC and in AC I have more time and can collect cp numbers etc and I know the price to pay over there, but Manila is a another scenery.
PM or post here and share :)
Happy hunting!!
When I went to Casino a couple of weeks ago, the barfine was 1000 and the girl was asking 2000. Our reason for not paying was because we just came from a wet massage at Starfleet and had to get back soon but the girls must have thought it was a money issue.
Apparently they asked the mama-san in a Visayan dialect if they could go for 1000. My brother-in-law understood and told me about it. So, we could have had the girls for 2000 total plus hotel...
GoodEnough
07-21-06, 00:15
When I went to Casino a couple of weeks ago, the barfine was 1000 and the girl was asking 2000. Our reason for not paying was because we just came from a wet massage at Starfleet and had to get back soon but the girls must have thought it was a money issue.
Apparently they asked the mama-san in a Visayan dialect if they could go for 1000. My brother-in-law understood and told me about it. So, we could have had the girls for 2000 total plus hotel...
Strange, but in all of the times I've been to Edsa, aside from the barfine, I've never once discussed money beforehand, and it's never been a problem. I don't think the bar cares about the private arrangement with the girl as its take is limited to the PhP1,000 barfine that you must pay prior to your departure.
:D
GE
Strange, but in all of the times I've been to Edsa, aside from the barfine, I've never once discussed money beforehand, and it's never been a problem. I don't think the bar cares about the private arrangement with the girl as its take is limited to the PhP1,000 barfine that you must pay prior to your departure.
:D
GE
We didn't negotiate with them. I think they thought we didn't know what the bar was about and so they readily told us to pay 1000 to the bar and 2000 to them. We said not now and that we would buy them a drink and check out some other bars since it was our first bar. They must have thought that we thought 2000 was too much because my brother-in-law overheard them asking the mama-san if 1000 was ok.
I thought that was strange too because I had thought that the girls keep the money and the bar didn't care. Maybe they have to give a percentage to the mama-san...
We didn't negotiate with them. I think they thought we didn't know what the bar was about and so they readily told us to pay 1000 to the bar and 2000 to them. We said not now and that we would buy them a drink and check out some other bars since it was our first bar. They must have thought that we thought 2000 was too much because my brother-in-law overheard them asking the mama-san if 1000 was ok.
I thought that was strange too because I had thought that the girls keep the money and the bar didn't care. Maybe they have to give a percentage to the mama-san...
Thanks for the info guys,
Sugoi, makes sense what you told us here.On my last visit the gurl which I barfined at Edsa , told me she just start working here and before we went out she talked to the mamasan bout barfine, cause later she told me when I gave her the money that it was 3000 for short time and 5000 for overnight (of course I didnt pay that, but I admit I gave her 3000 p for overnight) and she make sure that was the goin rate , cause she asked mama san before.
So I know that the mamasans get a percentage of the barfine from the bar, but its new to me that they also get something from the money I will pay directly to the gurl.
Makes me thinkin....
Happy hunting!!
Hi,
Just a bit off topic.
I have seen some cheap condos advertised in Pasig and Quezon Cities. A condo in Makati would be better but just a bit more money than I am prepared to risk at this time.
I am just looking at vacation accommodation presently, with the possibilty of renting it out when I am not there.
I would like to hear any comments on these locations.
Thanks,
Steve
Vinnie1369
07-22-06, 09:54
Unfortunately, I have not had much time to keep up to date with this site so maybe this was covered already. I would go back and read and look but I got some drinking and whorin' to do.
Anyway, let me get down to it. For those of you who frequent LA Cafe, Amazonia, or the other bars in that area watch out. There is a couple cops out there running the old give us money or we will run you in for prositution scam.
I have been nailed twice now by the same cop. His buddies the second time around were different than the first group but he nailed us at a checkpoint near Harrison Plaza. There is a short time motel nearby called LongWood and they know what goes on there so they set up shop in a nice location. The route between LA and LongWood.
Anyway, his routine is he will tell you the girl you are with he identified her as a hooker and will take you to "investigation" (the police station.) He will of course look the other way and do you a "favor." He will do his best to not spell out that he wants money but I am a jerk and will even break balls with cops. (Yeah! I am not the sharpest pencil in the box.) I made him go round in circles till he finally pretty much just told me he wanted cash to let me go.
I was going to call a friend of mine to get me out of it but this guy was willing to go for small change because I gave him the run around pretending to be new and not knowing anything. He was more nervous than the girl in the taxi. HEH!
Anyway, I gave him 2K pesos and sent him and his buddy on their way.
The second time he nailed me it was 2 days ago. I did not even have a girl but my buddy was with his girlfriend of 6 years and the cop ran same routine. (I was the only one out of the taxi because he recognized me and knew I would pay. Would not let the others out of the taxi.)
It took me a minute to realize it but when I looked at him I realized it was the same guy. He pretended not to recognize me right off but of course he did and that is why he nailed us and only let me out of the taxi. Anyway, when I reminded him who I was he got real friendly and played like he was willing to let me go without money this time. Of course his buddy played bad cop and pushed for some cash. I think I gave him 1300 pesos this time and this time I got his name and his cell #. He offered it up to me before I had a chance to ask and told me if I got into trouble to give him a call and he would get me out of it.
Little does he know I am turning that number and name over to a guy I know with a higher rank than his. I intend to push the issue and see his butt in a sling as well. Is why I played Mr. Nice White Man. Keep his guard down.
Anyway, just thought you guys want to know look around before you get in a taxi with a girl from a bar. If you see cops don't get in the taxi. If you dont and you do get in the taxi and you get pulled over. Tell the girl, "We have known each other for 2 years and you make sure the taxi driver uses the story of you are going to get some food. Remember guys. McDonalds here is open 24 hours in some cases. Filling Station on Burgos most definitely is also. That way if they try to run game on you then just say, fine....but you are way out of line and make sure the girl and the driver back you up. If they actually do try to take you in then be quick to offer up that cash. If they actually get you in the police station the price jumps big time. Something else to remember is they dont want to take you down. They just want to get some cash and let you go and get it over as quick as they can.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
I will be in Manila for a week and am looking for guest friendly hotel. Has anyone stayed stayed at Hyatt ? Appreciate any suggestion. Thanks.
Pete The Beat
07-23-06, 06:12
BadBoy27,
I stayed at the Hyatt Casino last January and must recommend it highly - staff are very helpful and girl friendly - service is good, 5 star all the way - not cheap though, but its got everything - good room service, pool, gym, and the casino attached if you get bored - not likely though!
Just a short stroll to LA Cafe, Robinsons Mall, internet cafes, 7/11, and other clubs in Ermita etc.
I will be going back later this year and thats where I will be staying.
Good luck!
Hey guys,
I'm trying to a find a nice hotel to stay in.
So far, I've considered these two:
Heritage Hotel
Hyatt Regency Hotel
The price is not too big of a deal. I just want a really nice hotel. Any reccomendations?
I really liked the Pan Pacific on Adriatico in Ermita, but that was 3 years ago at $85/Night including Bkfst; price has gone up some since, try AsiaTravel for latest rates.
Hey guys,
I'm trying to a find a nice hotel to stay in.
So far, I've considered these two:
Heritage Hotel
Hyatt Regency Hotel
The price is not too big of a deal. I just want a really nice hotel. Any reccomendations?
Just read on the net that the Hyatt (Roxas Blvd) will no longer be Hyatt soon. Maybe should re-think staying there.
ES
I've narrowed it down to:
Diamond Hotel
Pan Pacific Hotel
Diamond looks really nice..and it looks like its in the same area too.
GoodEnough
07-24-06, 11:08
Just read on the net that the Hyatt (Roxas Blvd) will no longer be Hyatt soon. Maybe should re-think staying there.
ES
I've stayed three times at the Heritage and I'll never stay there by choice again. The only thing that the place has going for it is its location across the road from the EDSA complex. If price is not much of a factor for you, I'd stay in one of the five stars in Makati.
:D
GE
Pete The Beat
07-24-06, 12:32
Guys,
Don't be confusing the Hyatt Hotel on Roxas with the much newer and 5 star Hyatt Casino which is in Ermita on Pedro Gil and Mabini - it is 2 blocks from the LA Cafe and Robinsons - well worth the money!! Check it out on the Hyatt website.
I've stayed three times at the Heritage and I'll never stay there by choice again. The only thing that the place has going for it is its location across the road from the EDSA complex. If price is not much of a factor for you, I'd stay in one of the five stars in Makati.
:D
GEA nice place is the Hyatt casino on Pedro Gil. 2 blocks from LaCafe and Robinsons mall. Modern clean hotel. Price is around 5 6k php = $90 130 after taxes. Depending on the room. Great place with cutees at the front desk.
Ilongo_boy
07-24-06, 14:01
Hey Blink,
I actually never barfine anyone. I would either do the deed in the VIP rooms in the KTV and/or get their cell numbers while chatting with them. Most often they are open to hooking up with you during the day and if they realy like you they call in sick and just hang with you.
Of course, they expect a little tip at the end of the day. Having sadi that, 1000 Pesos for barfine seems reasonable.
IB
Hello guys,
thanks for the info on MP ilongo_boy and fast eddie48. I will try thos eplaces once Im there.
Even Im not a newbie in PI, I went first time for barfine at Edsa last year and I think I paid to much for the gurls. 2000 to 3000 plus barfine for allnight/short time.
I dont know , but I dont wana ruin a GFE when I barfine the gurl and talk about money before also discuss about bj etc etc. On the other side I also dont want to overpay or gettin bad service.
So lets talk about this. You have made eyecontact to ur future barfine, you invite her for a drink, now u discuss prize and services. She ask for 3 000 short time and 5000 overnight, which isnt unlikely in Edsa and you just offer half of it. So what happens?? Either she will agree, or you have to say gudbye, walk out and try ur luck in the next bar, talk to another gurl, buy another drink, etc etc. So all in all you might waste tme and aditional money for ladydrinks etc etc. I not saying I would spent 5000 p but someting between 2000 and 3000 is reasonable? Or do I pay to much??
Maybe you guys share some experiences in bargaining and get a gud price without losing face and pissing ur future barfine off and spoiling the GFE.
Im talkin about one or two nights in Manila, after that I go to my gf in AC and in AC I have more time and can collect cp numbers etc and I know the price to pay over there, but Manila is a another scenery.
PM or post here and share :)
Happy hunting!!
Copacabana, Next Door to Heritage, is just as close to EDSA complex and half the cost of Heritage (or less). Perfectly adequate, though get a higher floor to reduce noise. I believe it used to be owned by Pablo Cuneta, father of singer Sharon. If you simply must stay in a 5 star Hotel, consider the Westin which is only 5 minutes by taxi, and much quieter. Or Century Park next to Harrison Plaza (also only 5 minutes by taxi to EDSA complex).
Ralek if cost really is no issue, try the MacArthur Suite at the Manila Hotel. Loaded with old World charm (of which Makati has ZERO IMHO!)
I have only stayed in Makati once, and never understood why so many guys seem to prefer it (well I guess it reminds them more of US cities, but I travel to GET AWAY from things American!). HORRIBLE traffic almost always, and farther from the action (unless you frequent PBurgos, in which case the Century Citadel is an unbeatable location for a bargain price).
Thanks Surfer.
The Westin Hotel looks like a great deal compared to Diamond which is a good $30 more expensive overall.
I like the Westin. GREAT pool with waterslides, great views of the sunset over Manila Bay. SLIGHT drawback is that it is kind of isolated so you cannot just walk downstairs and be in a mall or what. You will need to take taxis even to get to a sarisari store. GREAT and happening restaurant with a nautical theme just before you to get to Roxas blvd (when heading to EDSA complex from Westrin) is a MUST SEE to meet nonpros (and have a good meal-hotel restaurants are obviously pricey) . Enjoy your trip.
I agree the Copacabana is alround the best hotel for the money but lacking a gym, much better than Heritage cus this is an apartment hotel, I usually get the 2 bedroom apt cus i like the space it provides. Westin has the best pool in Manila. I will stay at the Oakwood plaza which is the finest apartment hotel in the Philippines and also get the 2 bedroom, living room, kitchen, etc. with the best mall down stairs. 2nd best is the Century plaza a fine apartment hotel as well. Why stay in a 1 room hotel?
Oh crap.
Looks like the Westin Hotel is no longer there...Now that hotel is called the "Sofitel Philippine Plaza Hotel" or something like that.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298573-d301802-Reviews-Sofitel_Hotel_Philippine_Plaza-Manila_National_Capital_Region_Luzon.html
I read a few reviews which pointed out the experience was really bad.
So when I look up reviews for the Westin Hotel, the reviews are great.
But when I look up reviews for the "Sofitel" Hotel, the reveiws are average to poor.
Can a change in staff/ownership really make a hotel that much worse?
Does anybody know where to get a HIV test in Manila, if so where, how much and how long does it take to get the results. I already know not to get tested personally here in the PI because they will report you to the govt. and good luck from there.
Thanks
Mook
Cebu Local
07-25-06, 23:51
Oh crap.
Looks like the Westin Hotel is no longer there...Now that hotel is called the "Sofitel Philippine Plaza Hotel" or something like that.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298573-d301802-Reviews-Sofitel_Hotel_Philippine_Plaza-Manila_National_Capital_Region_Luzon.html
I read a few reviews which pointed out the experience was really bad.
So when I look up reviews for the Westin Hotel, the reviews are great.
But when I look up reviews for the "Sofitel" Hotel, the reveiws are average to poor.
Can a change in staff/ownership really make a hotel that much worse?Yes,They did a lot of changes in staffing,Food and Beverage and standards.You were warned
In room massage - 24hrs - anyone got any info?
I searched.
Is it a happy finish etc?
Thats a positive
Had an excellent very cheap massage then at the end I asked if she would massage everything
She said ok but secret and only hand
I said fine
She then proceeded to give me a very reasonable hand job
All in all a good service
Yes it is 24hr too
In fact I had her at 6am then back again 2hrs later
I tipped her $100 because I am rich and stupid and she was a nice girl
I gave her tickets to the concert I am doing here in manila and shes bringing 7 other filipina friends too (typical! They are not shy on a freebie! )
So could be some fun tonight in my room shame I'm leaving tomorrow to korea
Dashing Don
07-27-06, 19:13
Mook, I didn't know that they reported the test to the govt. Do they only report the tests that are positive or everybody. Or just the foreigners?
There was a poster a few months ago who said that his mo was to barfine two girls for a week; take them to the doctor and if the results were ok, then he could bareback them for a week. Can't remember his name but its in either one of the Manila sections or AC.
Just as an aside, if the girl has picked up HIV withing six months of the test, it won't show up on the test, but she can still infect. Thats what I understand to be the case.
You might want to start with the girls in the bar. They always tell me about the 'pussy doctor' upstars and how they have to get checked every two weeks or after being barfined. Maybe that doc can give you the name of someone.
Just to show that the barfine bars' system is not all its cracked up to be, a girl I barfined a few weeks ago in the Firehouse (EDSA) had been hired by the bar on a Thursday, tested, and allowed to work immediately, even though the results of her test would not be available until Monday!
On a broader note, I'm curious just how often any mongers pick up something in the Manila bars. Or at all? Its never mentioned here. Do the mongers just go home and lick their wounds? Or is it really that safe.
Don
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