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Mr Enternational
05-04-19, 17:02
Me too! Same with these people who nickle and dime. They spend around US $2000 traveling to the other side of the world, fork out for 4 or 5 star hotels for a week or so, then spend precious time quibbling with an Asian hooker over $20. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.It only takes 30 seconds to quibble. I would not call that precious time. I have not fucked too many Asian hookers for much more than the $20 you speak of quibbling over. That is the beauty of the place. I guess you search for full fare tickets and hotels as well. No expedia or booking dot com for you! That is for us nickelers and dimers.

VictorHugo99
05-04-19, 21:39
I do hear you SP, coming from bad experiences, I believe that it is wisdom to RTFF and verify the personnel well and not to be in a hurry with the little head.

This helps to escape obvious traps.

Vic.


I'm with you on that. I like to think I am generous but I hate being ripped off. I like to be in control.

VictorHugo99
05-04-19, 21:43
Thanks M. E.

It's so wise to understand that the bottom line is how much cash they can get from you while allowing you to feel that you are getting a great deal.

That's why this forum is precious, for advice and good ideas.


I have said before that whenever a contact is involved shit is going to cost you more. My wingman was dating a chick whose dad drives a taxi. He tried to charge my boy 3500 pesos from AC to Manila. Work out your own deal and don't fall for you are getting a lower one because of a contact.

VictorHugo99
05-04-19, 21:46
Thanks for the wise words M. E.

That's why it is great to refer back to this forum, RTFF, to avoid obvious scams.

Be experiences real helps to gain in wisdom though.

Victor.


I have said before that whenever a contact is involved shit is going to cost you more. My wingman was dating a chick whose dad drives a taxi. He tried to charge my boy 3500 pesos from AC to Manila. Work out your own deal and don't fall for you are getting a lower one because of a contact.

Stykler
05-04-19, 23:36
I have not fucked too many Asian hookers for much more than the $20 you speak of quibbling over.Each to their own I suppose. From my perspective I just can't be bothered haggling with a hooker, it makes the deal a little too "transactional" for me. If I feel I'm getting ripped off at the offered price, I just walk away.

The $20 I refer to is obviously not the overall price of services, but the price difference between what the punter wants to pay and the hooker wants to receive.

Dg8787
05-04-19, 23:45
Each to their own I suppose. From my perspective I just can't be bothered haggling with a hooker, it makes the deal a little too "transactional" for me. If I feel I'm getting ripped off at the offered price, I just walk away.

The $20 I refer to is obviously not the overall price of services, but the price difference between what the punter wants to pay and the hooker wants to receive.$20 is more valuable to some financial wizard mongers than to a starving family. Some even complain about the meal they get for 150 php!

NewImage
05-05-19, 00:43
$20 is more valuable to some financial wizard mongers than to a starving family. Some even complain about the meal they get for 150 php!It may sound a bit pedantic but I work on a budget that I believe given the place is fair for both monger and WG. I stick to this budget despite what they may ask.

This year I will visit KL & Angeles. Obviously quite different prices. So I adjust my budget accordingly. To my way of thinking overpaying is just dumb and a fool and his money will soon be parted.

My trips are time to have fun and sample quite a bit of the wildlife. I butterfly more so than repeat. For them they get a fairly ok looking respectful gentlemen, they usually enjoy themselves too. Based on current prices I give what's fair as opposed to them having to go home with a less desirable individual. I believe, although yes this is there work, this is a fair exchange. It should be remembered that some nights these girls go home unattached and also in low season this could mean no bookings for lengthy periods.

It works for me, others are free to choose their own ways but over spenders do everyone a disservice.

NI.

Free2
05-05-19, 05:09
And if you promise a big tip for bareback then keep it IMHO as am sure you meant 500 pesos (IE $10). Don't boast you said it to get it and then won't give the tip.Never. The western mentality is to make a deal and keep it. To clarify, I did not promise her anything ahead of time. I just assumed service would be 'normal'. The deal with the casa's is you only tip if you want to. No obligation. The girl gets paid by the casa. Obviously, transport fees home is expected that you give her enough to get home.

It's because it was after everything was done and she was begging for a tip is when I said, look, if you went bareback I would be tipping you now. I would have tipped her, but not BIG time. She was probably expecting 2 k or something like that. I only said that so that she learns a lesson for next time (one of you guys, so where's the thanks?! LOL) to be upfront. Also, to try to teach her that don't expect a tip when you clearly have not exceeded the clients satisfaction. The chances of that getting through are slim to none, but I tried.

Jbj64
05-05-19, 05:50
So I have wanted to go to the philipines for a long time, the ladies look beautiful. So I got a ticket for Jan 15-30. Now I need to figure it all out. I have been to Colombia, MDE mostly and love it.

I have a question on the massage girls on the street in the you tube videos, are they safe to go with and why don't more post talk about that? I am more interested in daytime action and not a big partier or drinker. Open to suggestions and I am reading the Forum but lots of posts commenting on one trip or such.

Falcon 95
05-05-19, 06:44
Gents,

Looking fwd to my first trip to Manila soon, and having read lots of the forum, I've not seen much reference to ladies who love to offer rimming. Specifically as part of a massage session. If anyone can suggest a lady or establishment that would suit my needs, please PM.

Thanks in advance.

JaR.Since the Philippines is not a hardcore destination, (and I learnt that the hard way) what you are looking for may be difficult to find. But with the right attitude and price, who knows? It's unlikely the attractive girls will be up for it.

Falcon 95
05-05-19, 06:55
So I have wanted to go to the philipines for a long time, the ladies look beautiful. So I got a ticket for Jan 15-30. Now I need to figure it all out. I have been to Colombia, MDE mostly and love it.

I have a question on the massage girls on the street in the you tube videos, are they safe to go with and why don't more post talk about that? I am more interested in daytime action and not a big partier or drinker. Open to suggestions and I am reading the Forum but lots of posts commenting on one trip or such.What do you mean by "safe"? Are you worried about STD's? Or are you talking about them sticking a pistol in your face and trying to rob you?

Mr Enternational
05-05-19, 06:59
I have a question on the massage girls on the street in the you tube videos, are they safe to go with and why don't more post talk about that? I am more interested in daytime action and not a big partier or drinker.If you want daytime action then your best bet is to hit the dating sites. There are not more posts on massage girls because they are massage girls. Neither sex nor a good massage is guaranteed from them at twice the price of a massage you can get in a reputable place. If you want a massage go to a massage shop. If you want to fuck, go get someone you know is selling pussy.

Dg8787
05-05-19, 20:48
It may sound a bit pedantic but I work on a budget that I believe given the place is fair for both monger and WG. I stick to this budget despite what they may ask.

This year I will visit KL & Angeles. Obviously quite different prices. So I adjust my budget accordingly. To my way of thinking overpaying is just dumb and a fool and his money will soon be parted.

My trips are time to have fun and sample quite a bit of the wildlife. I butterfly more so than repeat. For them they get a fairly ok looking respectful gentlemen, they usually enjoy themselves too. Based on current prices I give what's fair as opposed to them having to go home with a less desirable individual. I believe, although yes this is there work, this is a fair exchange. It should be remembered that some nights these girls go home unattached and also in low season this could mean no bookings for lengthy periods.

It works for me, others are free to choose their own ways but over spenders do everyone a disservice.

NI.On the Manila Hotels forum I advised you to go straight to Angeles and bypass Manila the first night. By taking the bus I hope it frees up some extra cash for you.

BTW, restaurants, hotels and other businesses will not give discounts for good looks! For me, I am glad they don't add a surcharge for ugly guys like me. It would break my budget!

For fun you and I should stand together on Fields and solicit the same FL, ugly me will offer the full rate and humsome you will offer the discounted good looks rate. Whoever she picks the other person will pay for him. We can do this 10 times to get an accurate count.

A little pedanic myself, I count the strokes per peso (SPP). I try to get 1 stoke per peso. My average is 1.013.

JohnaCarson
05-05-19, 22:23
So I have wanted to go to the philipines for a long time, the ladies look beautiful. So I got a ticket for Jan 15-30. Now I need to figure it all out. I have been to Colombia, MDE mostly and love it.

I have a question on the massage girls on the street in the you tube videos, are they safe to go with and why don't more post talk about that? I am more interested in daytime action and not a big partier or drinker. Open to suggestions and I am reading the Forum but lots of posts commenting on one trip or such.Happy hunting.

I tried the pay as you go scheme in Manila my first trip and after living in Bangkok for 30 plus years found it very boring.

As it turns out I started going thru Manila to get to Bangkok for the entertainment and subsequently ended up settling in Manila with a 26 year old beautiful girl, mother of two boys, who cannot be more accommodating in all respects, in and out of the bedroom. She is legally married and since divorce is unheard of in Philippines there is no chance we can be married. Fine by both of us.

I bought a condo in my name, car int my name and have my own bank account giving her a monthly allowance, more than fair. I send both her boys to private school and find my as fulfilling as ever.

I am 65 and good shape and believe me when I say life has not been this good in many many years.

Filipinas are the most giving and caring women and I dare say the most flirtatious girls. But never never flit with another when with her. Darts come out of their eyes.

I had about 10 trips to Manila on my way to Bangkok of a period of about 4 years.

After the first disastrous trip with pros. I got smart.

I subscribed to Filipino Cupid and Pina Love and the first time spent 6 nights, having 8 girls visit my room. All loving and giving and not one asked for any money or taxi fare. I have them a few pesos but not anywhere near what I spend the first trip on the pros.

Not one asked for a condom and there was only one of the eight I had leave due to what I perceived was deception, but how wonderful the others were.

I even had a 50 year old woman insists on coming to my room the night I arrived at 1 am and we rolled around every position. All holes tight and sweet. Attractive and experienced. All the rest were under 25, sweet, wonderful and never insisted on condom or any protection. They love white guys and using these sites and vetting the girls as much as you can online. Great experience.

On subsequent trips repeated with a few and on two occasions the girls asked if they could bring a friend to play yes.

NewImage
05-06-19, 01:25
On the Manila Hotels forum I advised you to go straight to Angeles and bypass Manila the first night. By taking the bus I hope it frees up some extra cash for you.
BTW, restaurants, hotels and other businesses will not give discounts for good looks! For me, I am glad they don't add a surcharge for ugly guys like me. It would break my budget!
For fun you and I should stand together on Fields and solicit the same FL, ugly me will offer the full rate and humsome you will offer the discounted good looks rate. Whoever she picks the other person will pay for him. We can do this 10 times to get an accurate count.
A little pedanic myself, I count the strokes per peso (SPP). I try to get 1 stoke per peso. My average is 1.013.LOL appreciate your help here and on other Phil forum pages.

"For fun you and I should stand together on Fields and solicit the same FL, ugly me will offer the full rate and humsome you will offer the discounted good looks rate. Whoever she picks the other person will pay for him. We can do this 10 times to get an accurate count. " - LOL again. In the name of science and stats this may be an interesting proposition. I would imagine the spread of difference between the humsome rate and the "un humsome " rate might be the clincher. I often query what people pay as on average esp in KL I get a lower price accepted than most. I am no Brad Pitt. Closer to 60 than I like. I sometimes get the comment " you must have been quite good looking when you were younger" = LOL what do you mean. When I was younger? Of course I am not too arrogant to realize the size of the paycheck is a significant determinant with most WGs.

What do you mean by strokes per peso? Strokes of what? Be interested in knowing my average, purely for research purposes. LOL x 3.

Once again thanks to you and others for their help.

NI.

MadisonGuy
05-06-19, 02:00
Me too! Same with these people who nickle and dime. They spend around US $2000 traveling to the other side of the world, fork out for 4 or 5 star hotels for a week or so, then spend precious time quibbling with an Asian hooker over $20. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.I use to be one of those guys, but most guys look for cheap places to stay and are cheap with the girls. I still will negotiate with a girl just like I will use expedia to find the best 5 star hotel. But in the end if I really want her she could be 10 x's the going rate in the area and if it's not too much for me I'm going to partake. If a girl is bi I will usually push my pay limit higher because then I can still try to get another if I see something later. Unfortunately Philippines isn't great for the bi girls. In the end I don't think there's a right way or wrong way just everyone does it their own way. Markets rise from an increase in tourism not a few mongers over paying. Supply and demand.

DocInHeat
05-06-19, 02:24
I agree with MadisonGuy. In general, I want to respect local customs and practices (including local mongers), but if I really want something and I can afford it. I will pay for it. In my own history, for a 1-hour visit, I have paid as little as $20 US and as much as $1000 US and everything in-between! There was so many variables including the location, the girl, the services, etc. Etc. I know people who've paid more. There's no right way or wrong way, just whatever is good for you.


I use to be one of those guys, but most guys look for cheap places to stay and are cheap with the girls. I still will negotiate with a girl just like I will use expedia to find the best 5 star hotel. But in the end if I really want her she could be 10 x's the going rate in the area and if it's not too much for me I'm going to partake. If a girl is bi I will usually push my pay limit higher because then I can still try to get another if I see something later. Unfortunately Philippines isn't great for the bi girls. In the end I don't think there's a right way or wrong way just everyone does it their own way. Markets rise from an increase in tourism not a few mongers over paying. Supply and demand.

Blanquiceleste
05-06-19, 02:53
What do you mean by strokes per peso? Strokes of what? Be interested in knowing my average, purely for research purposes. LOL x 3.NI.The only thing it can mean in this context. A stroke is the act of penis entering the vagina. So if he is paying 2000 peso, you can do the math on how short he lasts. LOL.

GDreams
05-09-19, 16:04
Just spent a week in Manila. First 2 nights in Makati because the company I work for picked up the bill.

First night I had 20 year old I met last year on DIA. She was keen last year after our first meeting to meet again but it took a while to get back to Manila and she needed a lot of persuading to meet again. Was going to be 3 nights but after the first night she cancelled as she had family staying and didn't want the knowledge of being with a 58 yo guy getting out. Pity as she is pretty, hot, tight body and a tight wet pussy that likes having a cock inside.

Second night met with 19 yo who is regularly on PL. Again nice tight figure. She is simply pay for play. Had a nice session. Enjoyed a finger in the arse, maybe next time will try my cock in there. Agreed to CIP which was a nice finish. Next morning woke up and was horny. Checked out Wechat and found someone willing. Arrived and a bit chubby. Not really my taste but just needed the itch scratched so proceeded.

Third night moved hotel to Malate. More my type of area, with better restaurants around where I was staying and one block from Robinsons. Brought in another 20 yo PL girl who I had before. If I find a good one I prefer to repeat as I don't wear condom and don't need a discussion about it. She again has a nice figure (for me skinny, tits size is not important, I like nice tight arse and no stretch marks or baby damage) and she spent an hour.

Fourth day did some wandering around. Checked out Wechat but I tend to find them a bit jaded, however talked to one that seemed interesting. Organised to meet at Robinsons. Well I could kick myself, as I usually ask all girls if they are LBs and this one I didn't. 2 secs after meeting I was doing a fast retreat. Why they waste peoples time I don't know. Decided to try a new PL girl who was 22. Nice figure but maybe 6.5 face. She spent all night for a fixed 5 k. Was good in bed so was happy with the outcome.

Next day chatted to a beauty pageant model off DIA who needed a new dress. Looked pretty hot and offered 6 k for the night. She was pretty in the flesh, 8 - 8.5, unexpectedly a little bit of padding around the waist but a long way from chubby. Also surprised she wasn't shaved but once warmed up provided a good ride with lots of enthusiasm. Seemed that she had not had a boyfriend for a while and was happy to get a thorough pounding over the night.

Night 6 Repeat 19 yo.

The last night I agreed to meet an 18 yo off DIA. She agreed to spend the night if I took her shopping. I had considered do a repeat of the pageant girl but decided to try something new. Turned out to be a mistake. She sent a message saying she was coming with her sister as it was her sisters birthday. She said sister would leave after dinner. I reluctantly agreed. She then sent a message that she would be there soon so went to lobby to wait. After several messages saying they would be soon I just got tired of it after 45 min, it should not have taken more than 45 min for the trip! I went off to a local Korean BBQ to have dinner. Well 15 min later they messaged saying they arrived. I told them where I was and they joined me.

Had dinner after gave some taxi money in case they wanted to leave. However they reiterated do shopping then sister would leave. Shopping is my least favourite activity in the world and after 1. 5 hrs and 3000 pesos I said enough. Went back to hotel and expected the sister to take taxi but no she was waiting for a ride so all went to the room. Next thing the date said she had period. I said I didn't care, I just get a towel for under her I don't mind if she has period. Then other sister starts saying that their father has been taken to hospital. By this time I just started to lose it. It was 10 pm on my last night and these 2 were making every excuse imaginable. I just said I have had enough. I told my girl e had an agreement. Either she stays and the sister leaves now or they could both leave but presents stay and I told them I would give the present to the poor. After a couple of minutes of them discussing I just grabebd the presents and told them both to leave, I was no longer and the mood and I wasn't going to waste any more time on them. They lookd horrified they were being parted with their presents but neither suddenly changed their mind about fulfilling the agreement so out the door they went.

So now I was still horny so contacted a Wechat girl that I had chatted t before. She was available and agreed to spend the night. A little older than I usually go for at about 30 but quite attractive. Was there in 10 min. Sex was good but after she wanted to go eat (probably didn't have the money to eat earlier). By this time I was well and truly the night. I just said here is half the agreed amount just leave. She offered to come back but I just didn't want to be disturbed with a long trip planned for the next day.

Overall I had a good time. I had a few girls that were no shows but had contingencies as this typically happens when using dating sites. I wanted to repeat the first girl but she had other plans. I regret not repeating Pagent girl but all met my needs, were young and nice bodies and willing in bed.

FunGames1970
05-09-19, 20:51
I get to visit PI for the first time ever next week, but only get to stay for just over 48 hours. I arrive late Thursday night and leave early Sunday morning. I have spent some time RTFF here and have tried some of the online suggestions. I got banned twice from DIA pretty quickly and gave up. I think it was because I used a fake photo of myself for discretion. I browsed FilipinaCupid for a minute and decided to pay. FC banned me right after I paid but refunded my $. I think I put in my profile that I was looking for fun and they said it was for marriage minded folks only. Anyways I move on to PL and just paid for 1 month premium. Holy smokes the response is overwhelming. Every time I log on girls message me. There seems to be an endless supply of twenty-something girls who could be a prospect with a little work (and pesos LOL).

I struck up a conversation on PL with an attractive 38 year old woman and she has offered to stay with me the whole time, and bring a friend for the second night. She wants 10 K pesos and 3 K pesos for her friend. Compared to what I have shelled out elsewhere on the planet for girls that seems like a pretty good deal for 48 hours of fun with 2 women. Now I know that there's always the chance of her flaking out or being a no show, which is fine as I am staying at the Gramercy within walking distance to some action if I RTFF correctly.

My dilemma is this, should I go ahead with the 30-something girls or just show up in PI as a free agent and try to shag a couple twenty-something girls from P. Burgos area? I have to admit that the thoughts of having a 48 hour Filipina GFE with a friend coming for a visit sounds pretty hot. But I don't want to be wishing I had pulled a 22 year old bikini clad bargirl to spend a night or two with me instead.

Note: I would go to Angeles if I had more time. I am also going to "sight see" in Manila and get some good pics to share with those who don't know why I am going.

Discuss please, opinions are what I am after.

DocInHeat
05-09-19, 23:19
You don't really have time to play around. Yes, the girlfriend thing can be greater, but if it were me, I'd go with a sure thing! Go to P. Burgos or EDSA or a massage.


I get to visit PI for the first time ever next week, but only get to stay for just over 48 hours. I arrive late Thursday night and leave early Sunday morning. I have spent some time RTFF here and have tried some of the online suggestions. I got banned twice from DIA pretty quickly and gave up. I think it was because I used a fake photo of myself for discretion. I browsed FilipinaCupid for a minute and decided to pay. FC banned me right after I paid but refunded my $. I think I put in my profile that I was looking for fun and they said it was for marriage minded folks only. Anyways I move on to PL and just paid for 1 month premium. Holy smokes the response is overwhelming. Every time I log on girls message me. There seems to be an endless supply of twenty-something girls who could be a prospect with a little work (and pesos LOL).

I struck up a conversation on PL with an attractive 38 year old woman and she has offered to stay with me the whole time, and bring a friend for the second night. She wants 10 K pesos and 3 K pesos for her friend. Compared to what I have shelled out elsewhere on the planet for girls that seems like a pretty good deal for 48 hours of fun with 2 women. Now I know that there's always the chance of her flaking out or being a no show, which is fine as I am staying at the Gramercy within walking distance to some action if I RTFF correctly.

My dilemma is this, should I go ahead with the 30-something girls or just show up in PI as a free agent and try to shag a couple twenty-something girls from P. Burgos area? I have to admit that the thoughts of having a 48 hour Filipina GFE with a friend coming for a visit sounds pretty hot. But I don't want to be wishing I had pulled a 22 year old bikini clad bargirl to spend a night or two with me instead.

Note: I would go to Angeles if I had more time. I am also going to "sight see" in Manila and get some good pics to share with those who don't know why I am going.

Discuss please, opinions are what I am after.

Mr Enternational
05-10-19, 00:03
However they reiterated do shopping then sister would leave. Shopping is my least favourite activity in the world and after 1. 5 hrs and 3000 pesos I said enough. Went back to hotel and expected the sister to take taxi but no she was waiting for a ride so all went to the room. Next thing the date said she had period.LOL. Great report. I would have asked the sister if she was on her period too, because somebody was about to come off some ass. I wonder how many times they have pulled this. Chick in Colombia tried to pull that shopping shit with me back in February. I told her we fuck first and you go shopping alone after. Needless to say, she decided not to come.

Mr Enternational
05-10-19, 00:16
I struck up a conversation on PL with an attractive 38 year old woman and she has offered to stay with me the whole time, and bring a friend for the second night. She wants 10 K pesos and 3 K pesos for her friend. Compared to what I have shelled out elsewhere on the planet for girls that seems like a pretty good deal for 48 hours of fun with 2 women.What have you shelled out elsewhere on the planet where mfs earn 400 pesos per day? And this old hag is talking about she wants 10 times that? Shit, I am about to offer to stay with you too if you will give me 10 times what mfs make in my country. This chick could look fucked up in person and the friend could be a ladyboy. Like Doc said you don't have time to play around. Look at GDreams post below yours and see how much bullshit he had to go through to get the couple of good experiences from chicks online that he did.

You can always do them like they do us. Have her on standby and when you get there go check out the scene first. If you do not find anything to your liking then tell her your plane was late and to hurry up and get to the meeting point.

Sammon
05-10-19, 01:49
I get to visit PI for the first time ever next week, but only get to stay for just over 48 hours.

I struck up a conversation on PL with an attractive 38 year old woman and she has offered to stay with me the whole time, and bring a friend for the second night. She wants 10 K pesos and 3 K pesos for her friend. Compared to what I have shelled out elsewhere on the planet for girls that seems like a pretty good deal for 48 hours of fun with 2 women. Now I know that there's always the chance of her flaking out or being a no show, which is fine as I am staying at the Gramercy within walking distance to some action if I RTFF correctly.

My dilemma is this, should I go ahead with the 30-something girls or just show up in PI as a free agent and try to shag a couple twenty-something girls from P. Burgos area? I have to admit that the thoughts of having a 48 hour Filipina GFE with a friend coming for a visit sounds pretty hot. But I don't want to be wishing I had pulled a 22 year old bikini clad bargirl to spend a night or two with me instead.


Discuss please, opinions are what I am after.Too bad you got banned from DIA. There are plenty of pretty girls who will gladly stay with you. Generally I pay 2000 pesos per day.

Philippines is known for getting young pretty girls irrespective of your age. 38 is considered over the hill unless you like old women. She is asking 10000 pesos which is way over the hill also.

There are venues in Manila where you can get top girl for half that price. Do not compare with what you paid elsewhere in the world.

48 hours in Manila is too short. You can go to EDSA and try the clubs. There are plenty of pretty women. You can hit Makati clubs. These are on the expensive side. You can go to LA cafe and offer the best looking girl there 3000 for whole night.

One thing is in Manila you will never be alone for long.

GDreams
05-10-19, 02:09
LOL. Great report. I would have asked the sister if she was on her period too, because somebody was about to come off some ass. I wonder how many times they have pulled this. Chick in Colombia tried to pull that shopping shit with me back in February. I told her we fuck first and you go shopping alone after. Needless to say, she decided not to come.I did consider that option but I was getting so annoyed by that time that I wanted them gone while I had time an energy for an alternative. The cost wasn't the big issue, everyone has failures that cost them and 3000 can just as easily be blown in a bar or bar fining a non performer, it was the time wasted on the last night. I probably would not agree to do it again but sometimes to reel in a non pro you need to adjust the strategy.

GDreams
05-10-19, 02:18
I struck up a conversation on PL with an attractive 38 year old woman and she has offered to stay with me the whole time, and bring a friend for the second night. She wants 10 K pesos and 3 K pesos for her friend. Compared to what I have shelled out elsewhere on the planet for girls that seems like a pretty good deal for 48 hours of fun with 2 women.Sounds like this message I got on PL.

We can walk. Swim, eat together, shower together sleep together anything we do as long as we enjoy together Report.

Raquel10 27 Apr 2019 07:16 (1 week ago).

I'm Raquel hope to know you and meet you. I know you will enjoy with us companion. We are good person too we only companion because we need also compensation to provide our needs because we single mom.

Raquel10 27 Apr 2019 07:10 (1 week ago).

Me and my friend stay with you. Lets enjoy and have fun.

Raquel10 27 Apr 2019 07:09 (1 week ago).

Hi if you want companion I can stay with you how many days you want. Just its your treat and give compensation thank you.

I just prefer the 18 - 23 thin and pretty bracket. I was usually quoted 5 - 6 k for an overnight well for the ones I was happy to accept. Some quote considerably more.

Goferring
05-10-19, 02:38
You can always do them like they do us. Have her on standby and when you get there go check out the scene first. If you do not find anything to your liking then tell her your plane was late and to hurry up and get to the meeting point.Agreed.

FunGames,

With13 k burning a hole in your pocket while getting molested by DDs in Bottoms or lookers in PlanB on Burgos and it will be 'What 38 yo?

Remember that what girls say online and what actually turns up (if indeed she does actually turn up) are often totally different. You don't have time for that shit. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

FunGames1970
05-10-19, 12:48
Agreed.

FunGames,

With13 k burning a hole in your pocket while getting molested by DDs in Bottoms or lookers in PlanB on Burgos and it will be 'What 38 yo?

Remember that what girls say online and what actually turns up (if indeed she does actually turn up) are often totally different. You don't have time for that shit. 😁.

Enjoy. G.The suggestions and comments below stress exactly what I needed to get my upper head back in the game. Thank you all for responding. I like the young ones before they get the baby belly. The pickings are so slim here in the USA that I have a cute 40 year old from a sugaring website for an occasional romp and that's about all I get here.

Another question then: My flight lands at 11 PM next Thursday night and I'm staying near P. Burgos. I would like some action to get started with. What's a good bet place to go after midnight?

I manage to get short stopovers like this during or after business trips. Wish I could stay longer, but I won't turn down 2 days in PI when I don't have to pay for airfare.

Any tips for morning / daytime action. I've got a full bottle of Cialis and want to put it to good use LOL. I'll hit the clubs by night.

SaltyPete
05-10-19, 16:06
Agreed.

FunGames,

With13 k burning a hole in your pocket while getting molested by DDs in Bottoms or lookers in PlanB on Burgos and it will be 'What 38 yo?

Remember that what girls say online and what actually turns up (if indeed she does actually turn up) are often totally different. You don't have time for that shit. 😁.

Enjoy. G.38 year old lady, bringing a lady too ugly to have her own profile, for 13 K? No way! She is taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) with you (did I use that right)? If you really don't want to go out and find your own 20-something, a fair price for this dual is maybe 5 K. After the first session, you will want them to leave, anyway.

BombayBoyz
05-10-19, 18:52
Hi,

I'm looking for a Bodyguard / Security Escort cum driver, for the period of my stay in the Philippines.

Any recommendations, please PM me, either individuals or companies / agencies.

BB.

Goferring
05-10-19, 23:26
Another question then: My flight lands at 11 PM next Thursday night and I'm staying near P. Burgos. I would like some action to get started with. What's a good bet place to go after midnight?

I manage to get short stopovers like this during or after business trips. Wish I could stay longer, but I won't turn down 2 days in PI when I don't have to pay for airfare.

Any tips for morning / daytime action. I've got a full bottle of Cialis and want to put it to good use LOL. I'll hit the clubs by night.You'll want to hustle. It can take some time to get through the airport and to your hotel. On the plus side there shouldn't be much traffic at that time. For Burgos, the cream may he gone by the time you arrive but there should still be some good options. Bottoms is recognized as the best for groping girls and DDs. PlanB, XOXO and Kojax share some very pretty girls though they can be a bit mercenary to new comers. You may find a diamond in the rough in any of the bars along the street.

The only way I've been successful at getting rid of morning wood is to keep a LT overnight. Everyone else is asleep. Daytime its online and they come to you. It helps if you can describe your hotel as near xyz so the girls know where you are.

Enjoy. G.

GDreams
05-11-19, 00:15
Any tips for morning / daytime action. I've got a full bottle of Cialis and want to put it to good use LOL. I'll hit the clubs by night.WeChat. You will find girls on Wechat at all hours.

Jbj64
05-11-19, 03:22
OK so how does Wechat work? Is it searching for other users in your area? In Colorado I am not getting anything which does not surprise me, so please clarify.

Thanks.


WeChat. You will find girls on Wechat at all hours.

Goferring
05-11-19, 03:43
OK so how does Wechat work? Is it searching for other users in your area? In Colorado I am not getting anything which does not surprise me, so please clarify.

Thanks.Users can search for other users, 'People Nearby'. However, for anyone to appear there needs to be online users actually in your area. WeChat is very popular in Asia but if it's not in your area then there is no one to identify. People will only appear when you move to an area amongst other users. From memory, you need to be within 10 mi. In a major Asian city there can be '00's of matches who you can message and see if they want to meet.

Many openly advertise as being in the game but beware that a good % are LBs.

https://help.wechat.com/cgi-bin/micromsg-bin/oshelpcenter?opcode=2&lang=en&plat=android&id=120813euEJVf141023UniUny&Channel=helpcenter&t=help_center/w_topic_detail

Enjoy.

NewImage
05-12-19, 00:14
I, rightfully or wrongfully, assumed that prices were cheaper in Angeles. Research and feedback say bar fines are cheaper in Angeles as compared to Burg St.

I am told you can get girls in Manila for 1000 - 2/3000. Therefore my question is, if my main motivation is finding decent girls at these price points, why go to Angeles?

Is the standard better, pick up easier, is it a bit like the Bangkok / Pattaya situation? Is it just to get out of the metropolis? Feedback says Angeles is boring during the daytime so if prices are similar why go?

Feedback not criticism would be appreciated.

NI.

Mr Enternational
05-12-19, 00:41
I, rightfully or wrongfully, assumed that prices were cheaper in Angeles. Research and feedback say bar fines are cheaper in Angeles as compared to Burg St.
I am told you can get girls in Manila for 1000 - 2/3000. Therefore my question is, if my main motivation is finding decent girls at these price points, why go to Angeles?Your question is not going over because there are many ways to pick up chicks in each place. So you can not just say is it cheaper in Angeles or Manila. It depends on where you pick up the chick, how you pick up the chick, and your skills as a negotiator. I could be in Manila and find a free chick on Tinder or go to LA Cafe and find a chick that wants 3000 pesos. In Angeles I can find a chick on Tinder that wants 3000 pesos or I could go to High Society and find a free chick.

If you have traveled so far, why not go to both and get your own experience. They are only 2 hours away from each other. Hell, I tell people while you are on that side of the world to go to both Thailand and PI and make your own comparison. It is only a 3 hour flight and you can get it for $150 round trip.


Feedback says Angeles is boring during the daytime so if prices are similar why go?For the chicks. Besides, some people like the small, laid back, compact atmosphere of Angeles where you can walk the couple of places you need to go, better than the big city where everything is spread out and there is tons of trappic. Different strokes for different folks.

NewImage
05-12-19, 01:55
Your question is not going over because there are many ways to pick up chicks in each place. So you can not just say is it cheaper in Angeles or Manila. It depends on where you pick up the chick, how you pick up the chick, and your skills as a negotiator. I could be in Manila and find a free chick on Tinder or go to LA Cafe and find a chick that wants 3000 pesos. In Angeles I can find a chick on Tinder that wants 3000 pesos or I could go to High Society and find a free chick.
If you have traveled so far, why not go to both and get your own experience. They are only 2 hours away from each other. Hell, I tell people while you are on that side of the world to go to both Thailand and PI and make your own comparison. It is only a 3 hour flight and you can get it for $150 round trip.
For the chicks. Besides, some people like the small, laid back, compact atmosphere of Angeles where you can walk the couple of places you need to go, better than the big city where everything is spread out and there is tons of trappic. Different strokes for different folks.Heard of freebies available but thought these might be those girls at the lower end of the beauty scale or older MILF types. Not that freebies is what I am hunting. I Like Sabang, like when everything is close, although prices there are up to 4000 now. Appreciate reply.

Goferring
05-12-19, 02:34
Heard of freebies available but thought these might be those girls at the lower end of the beauty scale or older MILF types. Not that freebies is what I am hunting. I Like Sabang, like when everything is close, although prices there are up to 4000 now. Appreciate reply.If you are looking for a walk around bar hop like Sabang, AC is definitely better. There are a couple of areas where bars are nearly door to door and you can spend a full night just going from one to another. WS proper, the road to the west of WS boom gates and Perimeter Road all jump to mind. In Manila there is really only Burgos and EDSA. They are good but they can become a but repetitive and very expensive by comparison.

BTW freebies come in all shapes and sizes. Certainly not all are old and ugly.

Enjoy. G.

Dg8787
05-13-19, 03:23
I, rightfully or wrongfully, assumed that prices were cheaper in Angeles. Research and feedback say bar fines are cheaper in Angeles as compared to Burg St.

I am told you can get girls in Manila for 1000 - 2/3000. Therefore my question is, if my main motivation is finding decent girls at these price points, why go to Angeles?

Is the standard better, pick up easier, is it a bit like the Bangkok / Pattaya situation? Is it just to get out of the metropolis? Feedback says Angeles is boring during the daytime so if prices are similar why go?

Feedback not criticism would be appreciated.

NI.Go and find out yourself is the best feedback you will ever receive.

So many questions and so many answers will only get you more confused.

Then report back.

RpTraveller
05-13-19, 06:49
I was stationed in Manila for a week and tried an Outcall service from Nuru Massage. The massage was decent until the woman in question sped it up and asked me if I am interested in extra services. I said OK. The girl was petite, young, pretty. But there was a catch. No lip kiss (She wants to keep it for her husband when she gets married, she says! Blowjob no, maybe but only with condoms. The whole deal felt so artificial and boring that I finally asked her to leave. 4 k gone down the drain.

Lesson learnt: Just being pretty doesn't cut it for me.

Guys available nurumassage. Ph services, do ensure you give in to the extra services only if the girl is up for everything.

BombayBoyz
05-15-19, 20:30
Gents,

In Manila now. Having a great time!

Everyone is telling me get girls online! But online from which sites! Senior Members please advise, which are the best websites out there.

I'm happy to pay and create a profile. I'm told its the paid ones, which have the best girls.

Any and all advise, would be much appreciated.

Thank you once again!

BB.

Albert9989
05-15-19, 23:56
Gents,

In Manila now. Having a great time!

Everyone is telling me get girls online! But online from which sites! Senior Members please advise, which are the best websites out there.

I'm happy to pay and create a profile. I'm told its the paid ones, which have the best girls.

Any and all advise, would be much appreciated.

Thank you once again!

BB.My own experience was from DIA, but just say you are in manila and in the second step ask for messenger, skype or whatsapp, don't talk too much on DIA or you can be banned depending on what you say. Better to talk outside DIA. And need a lot of Hi, I am in manila. Before getting the right one.

Others use wechat to get contacts close to you I guess but never tried.

Blanquiceleste
05-16-19, 00:34
Gents,

In Manila now. Having a great time!

Everyone is telling me get girls online! But online from which sites! Senior Members please advise, which are the best websites out there.

I'm happy to pay and create a profile. I'm told its the paid ones, which have the best girls.

Any and all advise, would be much appreciated.

Thank you once again!

BB.Firstly if you are having a great time already, why cramp your style with the laborious process of finding girls online? Nonetheless here goes.

Dating sites accessed by a laptop. Date in Asia, Filipino Cupid, Pina Love, Seeking Arrangement, etc.

Dating apps accessed by your mobile. Badoo, Tinder, WeChat, Skout, TanTan.

Nearly all of them operate more or less the same way. Paid membership is available on all except WeChat and DIA. Paid members definitely get more hits. Keep the conversation on the apps / website squeaky clean, and shift it ASAP to a chat / communication app like WhatsApp or Viber or Line or WeChat. Use a real pic to get real results.

Dg8787
05-16-19, 02:35
Gents,

In Manila now. Having a great time!

Everyone is telling me get girls online! But online from which sites! Senior Members please advise, which are the best websites out there.

I'm happy to pay and create a profile. I'm told its the paid ones, which have the best girls.

Any and all advise, would be much appreciated.

Thank you once again!

BB.2 way street here. How about posting some information on your great time here? How, what, why and where are you having a great time?

A report would be fantastic B.B.!

Transporter
05-16-19, 10:17
Gents,

In Manila now. Having a great time!

Everyone is telling me get girls online! But online from which sites! Senior Members please advise, which are the best websites out there.

I'm happy to pay and create a profile. I'm told its the paid ones, which have the best girls.

Any and all advise, would be much appreciated.

Thank you once again!

BB.If you are already having a good time, then just continue.

The rest of your requests are best done via pm.

DzikaBomba
05-17-19, 06:34
Gents,

In Manila now. Having a great time!

Everyone is telling me get girls online! But online from which sites! Senior Members please advise, which are the best websites out there.

I'm happy to pay and create a profile. I'm told its the paid ones, which have the best girls.

Any and all advise, would be much appreciated.

Thank you once again!

BB.In Manila you can also use locantho. Ph.

Lots of hookers are announcing their Service on this site.

FunGames1970
05-17-19, 07:09
So I took everyone's advice and told the 38 year old that my trip was delayed and I headed to Manila. My flight landed at 11 pm and the passport line was long. But since I was concerned about getting in so late I had a sexy 23 year old from pinalove on standby. She showed and was pretty sexy. Didn't ask for money yet. We came to my condo and she wanted to go out drinking to a KTV that her friend was at. I said we're should get it on first then go out. She showered and climbed into bed. I proceeded to do her in a couple of position, but no BJ or real good performance. After that we went to KTV where I discovered that it's a total scam and left before spending any money. She came with me and I got some food at a bar on p Burgos. Decent Cuban sandwich. She came home with me and stayed. Took care of the morning wood, but again nothing special. She asked for cab fare and I gave her 3000 pesos. Around lunchtime another girl was messaging me asking for tuition money. I said to meet me at Wendy's and we'll talk. She was tiny and pretty sexy. Asked for 5 K for tuition. I told her I would give her 2000. We came back to condo and settled on 2500. She complained that it was too big for her and we ended up doing mish only after brief BBBJ that was fair. Again not a stellar performer but fun all the same. I'm going to take a nap this afternoon and be ready for p Burgos prime time tonight. I'm willing to pay a bar fine and hope to find a better performer than the 2 pinalove girls. But I did shag 2 girls for 3 rounds in my first 12 hours here so can't complain.

Please assist me in understanding exactly how the p Burgos barfine system works so I can be an informed consumer tonight. I've RTFF but I'm a little slow so I'm not sure that I'm totally clear on it. Do you pay the bar and the girl, or just pay the bar and tip the girl if you want to?

Time for my nap now.

Goferring
05-18-19, 09:19
Please assist me in understanding exactly how the p Burgos barfine system works so I can be an informed consumer tonight. I've RTFF but I'm a little slow so I'm not sure that I'm totally clear on it. Do you pay the bar and the girl, or just pay the bar and tip the girl if you want to?

Time for my nap now.Barfines are typically 10 drinks or 3900 p. Some bars or mamas may let you discount the cost of some interview LDs off this. This is paid in the bar before leaving.

The girl (s) will also want a significant tip for her time. This may be between 3 k for ST to 5 k for a LT, subject to negotiation / agreement and is not paid in the bar, even if asked. It is paid direct to the girl after your session is finished. Burgos girls are generally pretty good at not doing a one pop runner when a LT was agreed but just be aware that it does happen.

Any in-bar groping during interviews (common in Bottoms) is paid for with LDs during the act even of you don't BF her. If you're not buying her any drinks she may be reluctant to stay sitting with you while you are groping her. 😁.

Enjoy your night. G.

Wicked Roger
05-18-19, 12:05
Gents,

In Manila now. Having a great time!

Everyone is telling me get girls online! But online from which sites! Senior Members please advise, which are the best websites out there.

I'm happy to pay and create a profile. I'm told its the paid ones, which have the best girls.

Any and all advise, would be much appreciated.

Thank you once again!

BB.BB,

It has been 3 days since you posted this but so far no one is any wiser as to how you have had fun. How about some news / FRs as others have suggested. Always good to see a newbie perspective of the place.

Mr Enternational
05-18-19, 14:42
We came to my condo and she wanted to go out drinking to a KTV that her friend was at. I said we're should get it on first then go out. After that we went to KTV where I discovered that it's a total scam and left before spending any money.

Around lunchtime another girl was messaging me asking for tuition money. I said to meet me at Wendy's and we'll talk. She was tiny and pretty sexy. Asked for 5 K for tuition. I told her I would give her 2000.Dude. Excellent job on not falling for bullshit! You are definitely ready for them. Most guys would have gone to the KTV first then spent a bunch of money because they didn't want to miss out on the girl. You told her let's fuck first before I spend anything. Then when you did get to the KTV you were smart and told her you were not about to spend a bunch of money on that bullshit. Again, most guys would have shelled out all that money still trying to impress a chick that they had already fucked.

And best of all you didn't fall for the 5K shit because "it would have cost way more back home." Yeah, but PI ain't home. You cut her offer in half and I am willing to bet that she accepted that shit pretty quickly. Most of the time they do. I just talked to a chick on WeChat for when I arrive next week. She told me 2000. I said too expensive. She immediately dropped to 1500.

Keep up the good mongering.

Deagle101
05-18-19, 16:35
Just came from KL where it was a good scene for spas and bars. I checked into my place near P Burgos then went to the convenience store to buy some water and I'd have to say, this scene is waaaaay better. The SW are better looking and just seem nicer (I got propositioned 3 times by 3 different ladies going INTO the convenience store). I have all of Sunday and two weeknights to make up for a so-so KL trip. Thanks to everyone who's posted info here--it's helped me understand what I'm getting into. I'll be sure to post reviews / insights when I can; as I did in the KL forum.

FunGames1970
05-19-19, 02:43
Keep up the good mongering.After grabbing a nice afternoon nap, and then watching the sunset from the roof of the City Garden Grand I proceeded to P Burgos street. I visited ringside to see the midget boxing, which was a little silly. I was gratuitously groped and purchased a couple of LD then left. Went straight to Bottoms and picked a hottie named Sophia. After a couple LD I barfine her for ST and went back to condo. Very good time. Shower together, then nice BBBJ followed by several positions. Shower together again. Overall looks 8/10 performance 8/10. Cost 3900 BF, 3000 tip, plus a couple LD. I will say that these places are skilled at extorting money from you. Everyone wants a tip and the LDs flow fast. I could have enjoyed hanging out there longer but started buying LD too soon.

Last day I took a tour of Intramuros, then an afternoon nap. Chatted up another girl on PL and she came over. Cute girl that talked a lot. But she was really pleasant. Shower together then BBBJ and enthusiastic CG with DS finish. Shower again and smoked a couple cigarettes together. I gave her 3000. Looks 6/10 performance 8/10. Just right for me, performance is key.

PL was productive, but hit or miss on performance. I wanted to go to LAC but ran out of time. Thanks to all the old salts on here for the tips. I'm on the flight to USA now.

WhatDHell
05-19-19, 05:15
My own experience was from DIA, but just say you are in manila and in the second step ask for messenger, skype or whatsapp, don't talk too much on DIA or you can be banned depending on what you say. Better to talk outside DIA. And need a lot of Hi, I am in manila. Before getting the right one.

Others use wechat to get contacts close to you I guess but never tried.When I try creating an account on WeChat it asks me to get recommendations from 3 existing users. I don't know any existing users. How do I get past this requirement? Any workaround that anybody knows?

Deagle101
05-19-19, 08:16
When I try creating an account on WeChat it asks me to get recommendations from 3 existing users. I don't know any existing users. How do I get past this requirement? Any workaround that anybody knows?I just registered for a WeChat account before coming to KL and here. Don't remember the app putting up too much of a fuss. You sure there isn't a very light "skip" button in one of the corners of the screen? I've been here for less than 24 hours and have had at least 20 people try to connect. Almost met someone but turns how she was a "he" (major props to the hotel staff here at Makati Palace to ask if I was sure I wanted a ladyboy). Note: ask if they are a ladyboy, always. Good luck!

Goferring
05-19-19, 11:44
When I try creating an account on WeChat it asks me to get recommendations from 3 existing users. I don't know any existing users. How do I get past this requirement? Any workaround that anybody knows?Is this a new requirement? I've signed up and I too didn't have 3 referees.

Unless you are keen to use the People Nearby feature to meet others, Viber and WhatsApp are more widely used for text and video chat and simpler.

Enjoy. G.

Albert9989
05-19-19, 12:02
When I try creating an account on WeChat it asks me to get recommendations from 3 existing users. I don't know any existing users. How do I get past this requirement? Any workaround that anybody knows?
I said that I don't use it, but in fact I tried just now, and I saw that I already created an account one year ago and forgot it.

So what I saw also is that there is a new process about ID verification, and for that they propose 3 ways, send number by SMS, by mail, or by asking to friends.

If you chose the SMS, then you receive a number by SMS to enter in the verification screen, that's all.

May be you chose the 3rd way, asking to friends.

There is also a way to create an account not linked to the phone number or a facebook ,ID, but i didn't try it.

WhatDHell
05-19-19, 18:25
Was keen to try it as some reports mentioned getting a lot of success on it.

Must have missed the option of verification through SMS. Will give it a shot again.

Rewsna
05-20-19, 05:00
So I took everyone's advice and told the 38 year old that my trip was delayed and I headed to Manila. My flight landed at 11 pm and the passport line was long. But since I was concerned about getting in so late I had a sexy 23 year old from pinalove on standby. She showed and was pretty sexy. Didn't ask for money yet. We came to my condo and she wanted to go out drinking to a KTV that her friend was at. I said we're should get it on first then go out. She showered and climbed into bed. I proceeded to do her in a couple of position, but no BJ or real good performance. After that we went to KTV where I discovered that it's a total scam and left before spending any money. She came with me and I got some food at a bar on p Burgos. Decent Cuban sandwich. She came home with me and stayed. Took care of the morning wood, but again nothing special. She asked for cab fare and I gave her 3000 pesos. Around lunchtime another girl was messaging me asking for tuition money. I said to meet me at Wendy's and we'll talk. She was tiny and pretty sexy. Asked for 5 K for tuition. I told her I would give her 2000. We came back to condo and settled on 2500. She complained that it was too big for her and we ended up doing mish only after brief BBBJ that was fair. Again not a stellar performer but fun all the same. I'm going to take a nap this afternoon and be ready for p Burgos prime time tonight. I'm willing to pay a bar fine and hope to find a better performer than the 2 pinalove girls. But I did shag 2 girls for 3 rounds in my first 12 hours here so can't complain.

Please assist me in understanding exactly how the p Burgos barfine system works so I can be an informed consumer tonight. I've RTFF but I'm a little slow so I'm not sure that I'm totally clear on it. Do you pay the bar and the girl, or just pay the bar and tip the girl if you want to?

Time for my nap now.Good job not falling for the typical scams. And you could get some free tips on p burgos here - https://www.budgetagency.org/adult-manila-sex-vacations.html.

Star2019
05-20-19, 09:11
There are 2 types of spa in Manila.

One where you can select the girl. Cost from $25 to $150 depending upon the type and standard. Only massage. If you need anything further you have to negotiate which ranges from $50 onwards.

Another type of spa is where you play blind. There are small cabins with extremely dim red light. Pay $30 at the counter and enter any one and fuck once. You don't know, of what looks and age is she. This is basically for low cost budget.

XXXdude
05-20-19, 10:11
Hi brothers,

I would be travelling to Manila last week of May 2019 and looking forward to have a good time.

Plan is to stay in Pasay initially if nothing works out good over there then move to Makati.

If you folks have any good connects with classy chicks please DM me. Looking forward for some light in Manila.

Please help.

Cheers! Happy mongering.

SaltyPete
05-20-19, 13:52
Was keen to try it as some reports mentioned getting a lot of success on it.

Must have missed the option of verification through SMS. Will give it a shot again.They should just make a WeFuck app and be done with it.

DocInHeat
05-20-19, 19:40
Went to Air Force 1 - first time in several years, and what a disappointment. Maybe my memory is fading, but I remember this place with incredibly gorgeous women who were super-friendly and talented, which is what I told a buddy of mine when I brought him there. Unfortunately, it was just ok (maybe because it was a Sunday? The quality of the girls available was ok, the service was good (except CBJ! And it was a pain to get there and back from my hotel.

I guess I'll go to this place only when I have a brief layover at the airpot.

WhatDHell
05-20-19, 20:58
They should just make a WeFuck app and be done with it.And life would be simple again.

Transporter
05-20-19, 21:20
Went to Air Force 1 - first time in several years, and what a disappointment. Maybe my memory is fading, but I remember this place with incredibly gorgeous women who were super-friendly and talented, which is what I told a buddy of mine when I brought him there. Unfortunately, it was just ok (maybe because it was a Sunday? The quality of the girls available was ok, the service was good (except CBJ! And it was a pain to get there and back from my hotel.

I guess I'll go to this place only when I have a brief layover at the airpot.What time was that? And did you select from airforce or 168?

Free2
05-21-19, 10:05
Firstly if you are having a great time already, why cramp your style with the laborious process of finding girls online? Nonetheless here goes.

Dating sites accessed by a laptop. Date in Asia, Filipino Cupid, Pina Love, Seeking Arrangement, etc.

Dating apps accessed by your mobile. Badoo, Tinder, WeChat, Skout, TanTan.

Nearly all of them operate more or less the same way. Paid membership is available on all except WeChat and DIA. Paid members definitely get more hits. Keep the conversation on the apps / website squeaky clean, and shift it ASAP to a chat / communication app like WhatsApp or Viber or Line or WeChat. Use a real pic to get real results.This is the first time I have seen someone recommend the app TanTan. It is gold in the Phils. When I was there a couple weeks ago, my phone went red hot, more than 100 likes / day! Can't keep up with it.

DocInHeat
05-21-19, 16:44
I got there around 9 pm and it was Air Force.


What time was that? And did you select from airforce or 168?

Bushes
05-21-19, 18:51
In case anyone is interested. Ended up with a Mi 6 A (US90 China version) and Android One A2 (on clearance around US170). Great specs for the price 3 GB RAM and 32 GB+ storage. Problem is not as many bands as the Moto. A2 does not have an external SD and does not support exfat. But it does have a 20 Megapixel camera. Mobile antenna pickup a little weak on both. And missing some small features. But nice that they can double as TV remotes. You really cannot beat the value you get for the price. Not too difficult to turn a China version 6 A to an International version.


Good luck with the China Mi phone. Let us know how it works out.

Mr Enternational
05-21-19, 22:48
In case anyone is interested. Ended up with a Mi 6 A (US90 China version) and Android One A2 (on clearance around US170).

You really cannot beat the value you get for the price. Not too difficult to turn a China version 6 A to an International version.And the potential problem with that is with Google pulling Chinese companies' license to run Android.

Transporter
05-22-19, 00:55
I got there around 9 pm and it was Air Force.Probably all the top tier girls were entertaining already, that is kind of peak time.

DocInHeat
05-22-19, 02:00
I guess I might give them one more try, but earlier!


Probably all the top tier girls were entertaining already, that is kind of peak time.

Bushes
05-22-19, 06:52
Well, it goes both ways, in a way. Don't think it effects the phones out there already. Also, the China version 6 A had the Google stuff banned already, hence cheaper. (I hear a lot of Google stuff is blocked in China) But easy to put Google stuff on to upgrade to international version. I think it is a US10-20 price cheaper for the China version. For me, I am not sure saving the money was worth the extra taps on the phone and the time spent Googling.

The Mi A2 Android One phone was off US internet and an international version. I just clicked on buy when I noticed that it was like US30 cheaper than the nearest competitor. I didn't bother to see if there was a China version to save even more. The next cheapest was a Moto / Lenovo, a China company.

The last I checked, I think luckily my cotton shirts were from Bangladash or SriLanka. Likewise for my sneakers. So I won't be totally naked.

I am also not sure, but the news was saying the problem is not Android, as it is open source, but the App Store and something else. I assume one could buy the hardware and install the software yourself? Kind of like a dual boot MAC / Windoz? Well, the next options are Samsung and Apple and Nokia and Sony which are twice the price. Oh, I haven't tried the new Pixel 3 A but that is at least cheaper than the flagship. Like the MOto, there is a long list of bands. My next phone this year will probably be a 5 G, which means a China brand. Want to check out how fast you can stream porn. LOL!

Michaello
05-22-19, 15:52
2 experiences near Manila Moa. Advertising via internet / social media, I reacted and received quickly pictures and tried both. Just wanted to share this outcome.

First one. Khim. Single picture looked pretty good so let's try. Location was Sea residences. So far so good. The girl arrived downstairs and after seeing her I kindly said that I have to go and will not join her upstairs. She accepted my apologies and asked why. She is a trans (a man, not visible at her picture).

Second one. Innah. Funny again location Sea residence again. Pictures moderate but my 2nd option as option 1 did not work out well. She arrived 15 minutes too late due to her shower. OK let's see and I was expected a good experience. I accepted to go with her although not entirely my type. We went in Tower A Floor 9. She is from Philippines and not from Singapore as she told me before (1). She actually looks different somewhat from her 3 pictures, older and full of tattoos (2) and as mentioned not my type (3). I told her massage only please. She agreed and did it. When leaving she asked for 1000 php extra and she was blocking the door to get the 1000 extra. Her "friend" a ladyboy came from behind to witness it trying to make pic of me. What a terrible experience in the end. I tried to open the door but difficult to do it harmlessly. I paid 1000 extra and left quickly as it is just a small amount. I'm writing this post. Perhaps not good for the reputation of her and other girls in this country. It gives me a bad feeling like this.

Just that you know. Lesson I learned is to walk away if girl is lying or not your type. Girl 2 was not from Singapore (1) and pictures were not accurate and real (2) and not my type (3). I should have walked away. Lying means you can not trust the girl and should have a good feeling when joining her. Especially if you are inside her apartment. Difficult to know when using social media.

Auswebguy
05-23-19, 03:32
There are 2 types of spa in Manila.

One where you can select the girl. Cost from $25 to $150 depending upon the type and standard. Only massage. If you need anything further you have to negotiate which ranges from $50 onwards.

Another type of spa is where you play blind. There are small cabins with extremely dim red light. Pay $30 at the counter and enter any one and fuck once. You don't know, of what looks and age is she. This is basically for low cost budget.Do you have any names for the places you described? Thanks in advance.

Wicked Roger
05-23-19, 04:28
Do you have any names for the places you described? Thanks in advance.Quite a few but best PM me as can't give numbers out on the open forum. Look forward to the P Auswebguy.

Transporter
05-23-19, 04:28
I guess I might give them one more try, but earlier!I don't really go to those types of places any longer, as the value just doesn't' make sense. It only works if I have limited time.

But in the past what I use to do was go just a little before airforce one opens, and go to 168. That way you can take a look at 2 shifts (the early and the late shift for 168) and also the girls at airforce one (just getting ready). Make my selection based on 3 shifts.

Lately I have just been doing outcall. If I was to go out, I would probably do QC over Pasay / Paranaque.

Mr Enternational
05-23-19, 04:48
She is from Philippines and not from Singapore as she told me beforeOkay. I have before asked why they would put Manila when they are in Cebu and the damn chick told me because more people will chat to her if she puts Manila. But now I am asking why these dumb ass broads put shit like Mexico, Hong Kong, Singapore, London when they are right the fuck in Manila or AC?

Goferring
05-23-19, 04:57
Okay. I have before asked why they would put Manila when they are in Cebu and the damn chick told me because more people will chat to her if she puts Manila. But now I am asking why these dumb ass broads put shit like Mexico, Hong Kong, Singapore, London when they are right the fuck in Manila or AC?If she's in Manila 'on holiday from' London / HK / Singapore etc then she must be very sophisticated and deserving of their prices. Well, in her mind anyway. 🙄.

P.S. When has there been any logical thought processes in any pina online discussion? LOL.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
05-23-19, 05:04
I am in my dive hotel that I stay at in Manila for $30/night. I am about to check out and head to the main place I stay. The dude called from downstairs and I didn't answer the phone or press anything, but he was automatically talking and listening through the speaker phone asking if I would stay another night.

Transporter
05-23-19, 17:51
Okay. I have before asked why they would put Manila when they are in Cebu and the damn chick told me because more people will chat to her if she puts Manila. But now I am asking why these dumb ass broads put shit like Mexico, Hong Kong, Singapore, London when they are right the fuck in Manila or AC?Because the last dude that scammed her, played her, paid her, or BF was from either Mexico, HK, Sillypore, or UK. Its still lingering in her mind, she invested so much time with him, and even had her future planned out that she would be moving there, so the thought is still stuck in her head.

ForkTruck
05-23-19, 18:41
Because the last dude that scammed her, played her, paid her, or BF was from either Mexico, HK, Sillypore, or UK. Its still lingering in her mind, she invested so much time with him, and even had her future planned out that she would be moving there, so the thought is still stuck in her head.The girls are looking for sponsers and getting hits from those places. They are more interested in getting money at the Western Union office than in actually meeting anyone. Also there are a good number who just want to chat because they are bored. Blah, blah, blah. Many guys from other countrys troll the Philippine sites for the same reason with no intention of ever meeting.

MadisonGuy
05-24-19, 04:34
I got bamboozled, probably was info at one time in this group on the place. We picked up some chicks at Edsa complex which I have to say had a lot of high quality options available. Wanted to do karaoke with the chicks and they were down so we stopped at the big KTV place almost right next door. Well fuck is it expensive to pay to do karaoke in a place they're trying to get you to pay for chicks. They gave us a room charge which was a bit pricey, but then slid in an enterance fee on the end bill which we didn't pay or didn't pay much of because it was ridiculous. I will say though the KTV place had some pretty hot looking chicks and some big breasted ones that I think were from other countries. But considering what they charged us for not taking any girls I can't imagine what the take out price is there. I'the say so far in Manila Edsa had the best quality with Burgos being a very close second. We swore of LA and other places where it seems the baby damaged girls love to be so they can hide it better. I see bottoms posted on here a lot on Burgos and that place is pricey, drinks were double I guess I don't think it's worth paying double for a drink to suck on a tit. But being from Florida you can do that at any strip club there for much less. I did grab one girl from Burgos, big upstairs place probably had the most girls on the strip, super good match for me and for her age was pretty smart. I hate girls that negotiate and because that's work for me I pay as little as possible. I looked at the girl and told her I want to take you back with me tonight for the whole night, you trust me to take care of you? She said yes and that was the negotiations. Unfortunately that's when I pay the most and I could have got a few girls had I negotiated but I guess you got to do what makes sense for you. I didn't give any money to all these girls online constantly asking for money for some stupid problem. But one chick never asked, spent a ton of time talking and mentioned a birthday so I said let me send ya something to go out and she was shocked. And I'the normally say it was a ploy but it took her a few days to figure out how to set up paypal. I like the girls that don't hustle, but eventually they get burned by someone and grow cold I guess. So ready to go back to US though I don't know how guys live in this shithole and I actually think mongering in America is better than Philippines now. Prices have went up, quality and performance down, and with the underground system in the US I'm not paying that much more for girls that wouldn't last 10 minutes in any club in Asia. I guess that's one cultural change in the USA that has been for the better. Happy mongering!

Mr Enternational
05-24-19, 06:11
I see bottoms posted on here a lot on Burgos and that place is pricey, drinks were double I guess I don't think it's worth paying double for a drink to suck on a tit. But being from Florida you can do that at any strip club there for much less.I feel the same exact way. I am from Atlanta and used to DJ at a strip club my last year of high school, so these bars / gogos are actually boring to me.

Stykler
05-24-19, 06:12
So ready to go back to US though I don't know how guys live in this shithole and I actually think mongering in America is better than Philippines now. WOW, prepare for incoming artillery!

Dg8787
05-24-19, 11:22
WOW, prepare for incoming artillery!As many times I have been in Manila I have never been to the bars. Much better options for my money.

I guess mongers have found value for them in these bars.

SaltyPete
05-24-19, 13:43
Wanted to do karaoke with the chicks and they were down so we stopped at the big KTV place almost right next door. Well fuck is it expensive to pay to do karaoke in a place they're trying to get you to pay for chicks. They gave us a room charge which was a bit pricey, but then slid in an enterance fee on the end bill which we didn't pay or didn't pay much of because it was ridiculous. I will say though the KTV place had some pretty hot looking chicks and some big breasted ones that I think were from other countries. But considering what they charged us for not taking any girls I can't imagine what the take out price is there. I went there shortly after they opened up. Urban Club or something like that. Never went back, total rip-off.

Goferring
05-24-19, 18:29
I am in my dive hotel that I stay at in Manila for $30/night. I am about to check out and head to the main place I stay. The dude called from downstairs and I didn't answer the phone or press anything, but he was automatically talking and listening through the speaker phone asking if I would stay another night.Did you ever get to the bottom of why/how this occurred?

Kabul Guy
05-24-19, 23:03
As many times I have been in Manila I have never been to the bars. Much better options for my money.

I guess mongers have found value for them in these bars.I live there and never go to the bars. I simply do not like the bar scene anyway and the girls in them are usually hardened pro's looking for max money for min effort.

IMHO much better to get a real GFE from the dating sites.

But different strokes for different folks.

Mr Enternational
05-25-19, 03:41
Did you ever get to the bottom of why/how this occurred?Nope. I didn't even ask.

MadisonGuy
05-25-19, 19:24
I think I saw someone write about LA Cafe cultural changes awhile back and I dismissed it. But I should have paid more attention, there is a whole section of LA Cafe now which is basically only looking for other Asians. I don't understand the mindset behind it, but if you walk up the stairs everything to the right for the most part is all Asian. The girls don't want anything but other Asian dudes, its so weird and kind of unbelievable. Maybe they can get away without full sex with the Asians, or maybe they just don't want large cock I don't know. I'm going to take another swing at it tomorrow night because well I like the hard to get, but it was pretty damn obvious.

Ended out checking out a new place called Titan Z, actually had a heck of a lot of great talent and it was a strip club too. It's pretty costly though, more than even Burgos but I saw girls I thought worth it. My buddy didn't want to stay though so we bounced I will try again. Basically it's going to cost 10 k all in to get a girl out of there. THey do have rooms there you can save money for staying there. Also had a taxi take us to a casa, I was totally against it because I saw no good reason with as much legal places to go there would be the need for a casa. Surprisingly there was one girl or probably girl there I would've taken, but I wouldn't take anyone out regardless of looks I couldn't figure out any good reason they'the be working at a hidden casa except for illegal / ladyboy / [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) reasons.

I'm really trying to figure out the KTV deal on mimbini near LA Cafe, I don't get why guys pay money to just drink with girls if they can't pull them out of the place. Lots of good looking ones too, maybe I'm missing something. Ended up desperate and pulling one from Cafe Havana since my back up didn't want to drive over so late. Nothing special, looked a bit like Chrissy Teigen but talked too damn much.

PedroMorales
05-25-19, 19:53
I think I saw someone write about LA Cafe cultural changes awhile back and I dismissed it..The original quip was Japanese 3-3-3, paying 3 k baht for their 3" dongs for 3 minutes. The women go where the money is and that is increasingly Korean. The Koreans and Japanese like to throw money about and act the hot shot. They also like to drink in groups and buy ladies' drinks. I have seen women in LA Cafe descend on them like migrating geese, not least because they tip every woman in sight at least 100 PHP for nothing. If I owned LA Cafe or similar, I would want Koreans and / or Japanese the Koreans have had a strong presence in Malate for at least 20 years. LA Cafe is simple economics.

Pinaypounder
05-26-19, 04:08
Maybe its time to review some basics again for mongering in Asia.

1. Never pay up front in the Philippines because the money is already spent in their tiny brains and they know you are a fool so of course performance suffers. Do you not understand that they know you will become disinterested if they are terrible. Learned behavior.

Offer a fair price with a tip for world class performance, sadly half of them don't get this either.

2. If a deal is made in the bar and not honored, throw the ***** out with Cab fare not /3 not 1/2 cab fare and even that is being nice. A deal is a deal. I have done this 4 or 5 times I think. Then go to another place and get a new one.

3. IF it a terrible fuck don't pay the full amount unless it was your fault. IF its your fault pay them they kept their end of the bargain.

4. One guy got scammed for a k by a masseuse, they weigh 95 lbs her and the lady boy 190 lb and neither of them has ever done a push up. I don't support hitting them but moving them out of the way is pretty easy.

5. For every successful poor overpaid performance or scam, 10 more follow as they text their buddies and then they get ideas.

I have never paid my way out, old fashioned I guess I am a handshake guy and if I have to get rough with a thief well they won't be texting 10 friends afterwards will they.

I only ever had to get physical with one drunk woman in BKK, I did not hit her but I did physically remove her from my room.

Don't think for one minute that overpaying is good, it ain't!

And as a general rule the hotter they talk in the bar the worse they are in bed!

I for one don't lie to them, I treat them as well as I do women at home and it works very very well. Lots or freebies and repeats from the paid ones. I have had pros text me at 3 am just to come sleep with me and then there is a nice morning play!

Be nice Karma exists even in the Philippines.

That is my 100 pesos.

PP.

I have never paid my way out, old fashioned I guess and if I have to get rough with a thief well they won't be texting 10 friends afterwards will they.

I only ever had to get physical with a drunk woman in BKK, I did not hit her but I did physically remove her from my room.

Don't think for one minute that overpaying is good, it ain't!

Jingo10
05-26-19, 13:40
I think I saw someone write about LA Cafe cultural changes awhile back and I dismissed it. But I should have paid more attention, there is a whole section of LA Cafe now which is basically only looking for other Asians. Chatting to a girl in LA cafe last week, she was not interested in me and told me Koreans pay 4 k more than us western guys and they tip good, it's cheaper than that in Europe. I still pulled a few from there as some girls still only go with white guys, I paid 1500-2000 Hi sorry but I am in the UK now for a few months for ST. If you get good service then stick with her, I got one exceptional service and two average from LaC. Most nights the girls far outnumber the guys, but some girl just wait for the golden Korean goose which never shows up.

Cons68
05-26-19, 15:48
And as a general rule the hotter they talk in the bar the worse they are in bed!
And this children is today's lesson. Write it 1000 times.

Bushes
05-26-19, 17:00
It is economics. That is why the attitude and quality is so bad in the US. I enjoy the PI. You get so much more bang for your buck. It always amazes me when guys throw thousands at the girls in the States. Yes in USD.

No matter where you are, some girls will come to you if you splash money. Once the money is gone, so will those girls.


The original quip was Japanese 3-3-3, paying 3 k baht for their 3" dongs for 3 minutes. The women go where the money is and that is increasingly Korean. The Koreans and Japanese like to throw money about and act the hot shot. They also like to drink in groups and buy ladies' drinks. I have seen women in LA Cafe descend on them like migrating geese, not least because they tip every woman in sight at least 100 PHP for nothing. If I owned LA Cafe or similar, I would want Koreans and / or Japanese the Koreans have had a strong presence in Malate for at least 20 years. LA Cafe is simple economics.
I think I saw someone write about LA Cafe cultural changes awhile back and I dismissed it. But I should have paid more attention, there is a whole section of LA Cafe now which is basically only looking for other Asians. I don't understand the mindset behind it, but if you walk up the stairs everything to the right for the most part is all Asian. The girls don't want anything but other Asian dudes, its so weird and kind of unbelievable. Maybe they can get away without full sex with the Asians, or maybe they just don't want large cock I don't know. I'm going to take another swing at it tomorrow night because well I like the hard to get, but it was pretty damn obvious.

Transporter
05-27-19, 11:19
If you are in need of a sure thing then always happy to share. Pm me.

Sammon
05-27-19, 13:26
It is economics. That is why the attitude and quality is so bad in the US. I enjoy the PI. You get so much more bang for your buck. It always amazes me when guys throw thousands at the girls in the States. Yes in USD.

No matter where you are, some girls will come to you if you splash money. Once the money is gone, so will those girls.It takes certain type adventurism to go to other countries chasing women. In spite of the world opening up many in USA are afraid of traveling to other countries. Unfortunately most good, cheap places to monger is many hours flight. When I say I fly 15 hours non stop many of the jaws drop.

Donnahito
05-27-19, 17:12
Hello all,

After browsing this thread for tips and tricks for some time, I finally had the opportunity to visit the Philippines briefly. Prior to my trip, I messaged a bunch of girls on DIA but only had one who was replied and available during the time I would be in country. Oh well, I'll take my chances with her and see what happens. I arrived at the airport just past midnight on a Tuesday and take a cab to my hotel around the Robinson mall area, 450 pesos, and was dead tired from my flight so decided to crash. During the day I had business to take care of, so it wasn't until late afternoon that I had time to drop by Starbucks and Cafe Havana at greenbelt. There weren't many FL there that looked younger than 35 or of the slim variety, so grabbed a bite and headed back to the hotel.

Around 10 pm, I headed to La Cafe and saw it was decently crowded. Headed over to a table with a group of girls, and a slightly older girl with tattoos kind of took charge and started sweet talking to me. I made a mistake here and should have taken her up on her offer, but instead I picked a younger-looking girl with a fresh face. This younger girl hadn't been speaking much to me, but she was by far the most attractive out of the group. I kind of got pressured into buying her a ladies drink, but by this point I was only thinking with my little head, so I guess it's mistake umber two? Anyways we settled on 2 k ST. Back in the room, her attitude started to show and everything felt very business-like. I had to prompt her to undress, take a shower, and start the BBBJ. It was fairly mediocre and I just told her to get on her back after 10 minutes. We started in mish, and what felt like 10 minutes later, she starts to look at the clock, saying she has to go back soon. This made me a bit angry, so I told her to get into doggie and I pounded her hard to let off some of my frustration. I managed to convince her to take my thumb in her bum, and this situation was hot enough that I came soon after. All in all, no tip due to her attitude and performance, but 8/10 looks.

Transporter
05-27-19, 21:04
Found a few more pics, just pm me if you are in need she is very reliable.

Mr Enternational
05-28-19, 05:28
I went to LA Cafe the other night. I hate when chicks come up to your table trying to make small talk and they will not leave. Anyway there were 3 chicks. I decided that I liked one of them. I asked her how much for all night and she said 3000. I said negative. I will give you 2000 and you stay until 9 am. She wanted 2500. I said if you make me think you are my girlfriend then I will give you 500 more. Got back to the room and this chick was no good at sex. Bust one and went to sleep. I woke up at 6 am to go to the toilet and my dick was hard as a rock. I got back in the bed and stuck it in her. Bust again and she asked if she could go now. I said sure. I gave her the 2000 and she wanted more. I said I would give you 500 if you made me think you were my girlfriend, but that did not happen. She asked for 200 more and I just gave it to her and she left. At 10 am my university dean came over for a serving before I checked out of my dive hotel.

Cons68
05-28-19, 07:47
What you did was really unfair. You promised her 500 if she made you think she was your GF and then she went way beyond and she made you think she was your wife.


I went to LA Cafe the other night. I hate when chicks come up to your table trying to make small talk and they will not leave. Anyway there were 3 chicks. I decided that I liked one of them. I asked her how much for all night and she said 3000. I said negative. I will give you 2000 and you stay until 9 am. She wanted 2500. I said if you make me think you are my girlfriend then I will give you 500 more. Got back to the room and this chick was no good at sex. Bust one and went to sleep. I woke up at 6 am to go to the toilet and my dick was hard as a rock. I got back in the bed and stuck it in her. Bust again and she asked if she could go now. I said sure. I gave her the 2000 and she wanted more. I said I would give you 500 if you made me think you were my girlfriend, but that did not happen. She asked for 200 more and I just gave it to her and she left. At 10 am my university dean came over for a serving before I checked out of my dive hotel.

Mr Enternational
05-28-19, 07:56
What you did was really unfair. You promised her 500 if she made you think she was your GF and then she went way beyond and she made you think she was your wife.LOL. You have a fucking point!

WestCoast1
05-28-19, 09:19
Found a few more pics, just pm me if you are in need she is very reliable.TP: Your inbox is full. Apparently she's *that* hot.

Transporter
05-28-19, 09:28
TP: Your inbox is full. Apparently she's *that* hot.Thanks for the heads up, just emptied.

CreateNinnov8
05-28-19, 12:10
I know this girl. She is very good and reliable. Does BDSM too.


Found a few more pics, just pm me if you are in need she is very reliable.

SaltyPete
05-28-19, 14:37
What you did was really unfair. You promised her 500 if she made you think she was your GF and then she went way beyond and she made you think she was your wife.That was good for a full-on belly laugh, thanks!

Cons68
05-28-19, 20:56
That was good for a full-on belly laugh, thanks!Some people would argue that is not funny when it is true.

KrisMonger
05-29-19, 05:07
Better late than never. Wanted to get this review out before it gets too dated. Visited Manila and late part of February this year for a week.

Where did I stay?

I stayed in an bnb for 2 days (closer to Greenbelt1 and very walkable to Havana). Just lookup in the greenbelt area (it says Trassiera). Clearly says guests are allowed and the security is pretty easy going!. Bed is not super great so I decided to move and went to New World (great hotel right across Havanas) and then to Makati residences (again not too far) for the reminder of the group. New world and Makati are not if you are on budget and was easily costing around 130 USD a day. However, with New World and Makati, I was able to attract and retain talent much more easily (more on this later).

The Game.

First and foremost, if you can't hunt in Manila, you really have to question your capabilities. You don't need to be a well-built dude to hunt here. Being a foreigner gets you extra points everywhere. You from US? Even better. Caucasian still is top of the food chain. Japs and Koreans are considered primarily as dollar source. I hunted primarily from 3 places. Tinder, Facebook and Smooci and all of them were successful (pretty much close to 100 percent0 with the best GF types coming from FB.

Day 1 - Landed on day 1 - got my SIM card in airport (may have slightly overdone it -but took a 40 dollar package that will allow tethering as well). Even the girls out in the counter were super friendly and I did get a number (didn't put it to use) as a part of "test: calling!. You can pay for SIM in USD. Also did some exchange to get me some pesos for the PM. Got Grab going (they pick you up right in front). On the cab, downloaded Tinder and by the time I went to my place around 7:30 PM. There were quite a few DM. I was too tired and somewhat skeptical of a lot of messages (lot of LB prowls there), Found a province girl that looked doable in photos. Asked her to show up at a bar near Havanas. Met her and she said the was out to Manila for a few weeks (I think she said she was getting trained as a chef), Not a great looking girl (looked like a Moreno) but with some solid tops. A quick talk and 1.5 k for the reminder of the evening -gets her to my place and after about an hour of activities in fairly GFE fashion. I sent her off (she didn't want to go as she was comfy here and said she was sharing her place with friends). Prompt deleted / blocked her as she walked as I had no plans of seeing her again.

Day 2 - A few of my friends were flying in and so was lounging around AM. Perfect Pint was the place that I spent pretty much most of my early mornings. 11 AM beer and some food in one of greenbelt's restaurants was pretty much the routine. Evening of Day 2 was spent in Burgos hopping on from one bar to another. Rogues looked pretty solid and so did Plan be. However, came back to Greenbelt area to source in Havanas as I did the pickup around 12 midnight and found a decent one that used to live in Dubai. It was somewhat slightly on the higher side at 7 k until next day Am (but I was in no mood to negotiate). Got her in the place and she did complain about the bed being somewhat older and squeaky!. It was pretty decent session overall and by 3 am I sent her back home as well.

Day 3 - Day 6: My friends felt like Havana quality was not up to par and I suggested that we smooci. Plus a few of my friends wanted daytime activity so that they can get wasted completely at night without having any worries about performing. We Did the Smooci and connected with quite some decent selections. I grabbed one goes by Rachelle (I had met her last trip as well) - fairly expensive for Manila at 10000 php fpr 3 hours -somewhat tough to get based on her schedule -but her services were very solid. She has bolted on racks that felt pretty decent. One of my friend signed up with one that goes by Pamela. He pretty much hooked up with her for rest of the trip. He was not spending more than 7 K a day on her. I had done some legwork with FB (easy to find. Just look for word walker and manila and start making friends) and every day was landing quite a few variety. From semi-pro to fairly pro. Some of these walkers require some reference so for the first one that you grab out of FB. Just spend a little bit more and have her write a FR (First review is what that is) and then you are all set.

I obviously would suggest that you create your own bogus FB account for this.

Day 7: On Day 6, I went and played golf in the only half-decent public golf course (which is near the airport and I forget the name of it). While coming back, I was doing some friendly chat with the girl in the reception area. As soon as I left the place. I got a text message. Turns out that girl looked at the number I had written (thankfully my local number) and messaged me with her Whatsapp ID). She was not super great -but my urge to bang someone just kinda normal took over and an hour later she was purring in my room in diamond residence. True GFE types, no ask for any money whatsoever. Took her for dinner and some drinks in Havanas where we rated all the other girls and then came back and went until late and then woke me up AM and drained me. Had breakfast, took her to Robinson and insisted she buy something, She got herself some perfume / make up set (damage like 100 USD). Got her a grab and sent her away.

It was too bad that I was leaving Manila that evening.

To sum it up, if you treat the girls right -you will do great with the girls there!.

Donnahito
05-29-19, 20:17
So after my disappointing time with the LAC girl, I decided to follow up with my DIA girl. Her profile pic was a 7/10, claimed to be 23 year old And had no children. When I picked her up from the lobby, she looked pretty close to her profile pictures and produced an ID that showed her to be actually 23. It was early in the evening still, so we went to mall of Asia, walked around, grabbed dinner, and she acted like a real GF for a while. Afterwards, we bought some alcohol from a 7-11, went back to the hotel, and queued up a movie. It was honestly a pretty nice experience, we were both lounging on the bed in our underwear, she had her head on my chest, and I was occasionally playing with her tits and ass. After the movie finished, she went to "freshen up" without me having to say anything. The rest of the night was DFK, BBBJ, and CFS in a couple of different positions. The GFE experience was phenomenal, sex pretty decent, and looks above average. The next morning, I woke up first and started teasing her nipples and clit. What she said next really got me going, "I want it in. " Damn, I love it when a woman shows initiative and can at least pretend she enjoys her job. Anyways, round 2 was just as satisfying as the first round, and we went to the ocean park mid-morning. It was some time here that apparently she lost her wallet, a convenient excuse or not, and I told her I'd cover some of her money. Prior to now, there had been no mention of exchanging money at all, but I was fully prepared to give her something. Lo and behold, she had 3 k missing, and considering what a great time it had been, I just decided to give her the entire amount. My only regret is I have other business to attend the last couple of days and will have no time by myself.

Kabul Guy
05-29-19, 21:49
.....

To sum it up, if you treat the girls right -you will do great with the girls there!.That is so true. The local males treat their women like shit. Never spending a p more on them than they need to, putting them down, leaving them alone when they want to go drinking with the boys all the way up to some serious mental and physical abuse.

Treat them like human beings, spend a little on them, just for themselves, be gentle with them and you will be rewarded.

This of course does not apply to the more hardened pro's. They just see you as a walking ATM and are only interested in getting as much cash out of you for as little effort as possible. That is why my target group is the regular girls looking for some fun and perhaps a gift or two. I have had the best GFE's out of this group with overall very little effort, I just treat them nice and enjoy the fun time both in and out of bed with them.

Aviator12
05-29-19, 22:16
To sum it up, if you treat the girls right -you will do great with the girls there!.Sure thing. This advise is the common sense in Phil. I seldom comment on how much other mongers spend on girls, but this report really made me wonder. Spending 7-10.000 peso on FL girls just seems crazy IMO. There are in fact 2 different price levels in Manila; in Burgos bars and EDSA you have to spend a total of around 6000 peso to get a girl LT. This is very high price for a third world country like Philippines, but the quality especially in some Burgos bars is really high and according to most reports also their performance in bed is top class. Freelancers in bars like LA Cafe, Havana Cafe, streets, other bars etc. Can be had for 1500 - 2500 peso LT. There is no need to pay any more and you HAVE to negotiate. I have pulled girls from bars and street and also Havana but I always start or counter with 1500 LT. If they decline I move on to the next one. I understand that if you meet a real diamond you want to stretch the budget, but if you are caucasian and not too old there is no need to pay more than 3000 peso LT no matter how hot the girl might be. Just an advise based on my experience with over 10 years mongering in Manila.

Blanquiceleste
05-30-19, 00:45
I hunted primarily from 3 places. Tinder, Facebook and Smooci and all of them were successful

To sum it up, if you treat the girls right -you will do great with the girls there!.Great report, thank you for the time and effort.

P.S. - You don't "hunt" on Smooci. It's an app to connect with escorts.

Mr Enternational
05-30-19, 03:53
P.S. - You don't "hunt" on Smooci. It's an app to connect with escorts.Case of the hunter not knowing he is the one being hunted.

KilledSoul
05-30-19, 04:28
Just look for word walker and manila and start making friends) and every day was landing quite a few variety. From semi-pro to fairly pro.

Kris, can you give links to some profiles as a seed. I am pretty good at Medellin FB game, but can't seem to crack this one.

Goferring
05-30-19, 05:52
To sum it up, if you treat the girls right -you will do great with the girls there!.You went from 1500 over night to 10 k for 3 hours when you're buddies arrived. Looks like they are a bad (and expensive) influence. LOL.

I assume this was the boys' dirty weekend that you were asking about Claire and Burgos for a while back so its good to hear everyone had a fun time. 👍. Thanks for posting a report of how it went.

Cheers. G

Goferring
05-30-19, 05:55
Kris, can you give links to some profiles as a seed. I am pretty good at Medellin FB game, but can't seem to crack this one.KS, literally just type "Manila walker" into the Facebook search bar then throw a dart at the wall to pick which one.

Enjoy. G.

Red Kilt
05-31-19, 07:37
Did they really remember you or did they play that game like psychics do to make you think they remembered you? The give-away is when they call you by name, after at least 2 years absence.

I walked into Jools recently with a couple who were visiting me from down under (guy is a mate). I have not been in Jools for at least 2 years (could be more).

I had suggested we go to Jools to see the show, and indicated to them that I hadn't been there for ages so I didn't know if it was still as good as before.

We reach the top of the stairs to be greeted by a cheery "Hi XX, great to see you back again".

My mate smiled. His wife looked surprised. It seemed like I was fibbing to my friends and was actually a regular.

I was stunned, and realized I must have used my real name on the last visit (I usually use an alias).

When I got an opportunity I asked the girl how in hell she remembered me after such a long time and she just smiled and said "It's my job".

Bushes
05-31-19, 08:03
It gets worse. I am a lurker. I stick to the dark corners and keep a low profile. No round of drinks. I don't think I have any distinguishing features like a hunchback or giant mole or nose or ear. I like to think that I can blend into the crowd. Lo and behold, I would be walking down the street in some international city and a girl would look at me and say Hi. "Oh. Mr. XXXX, how are you?" It would be a Manila girl in Singapore, Hong Kong, or some other city. How do they do that? I cannot recognize many of the girls in the light of day.

The good thing is that the real pros will not not say anything if you are with someone and will wait till you are alone.


The give-away is when they call you by name, after at least 2 years absence.
When I got an opportunity I asked the girl how in hell she remembered me after such a long time and she just smiled and said "It's my job"..

Goferring
05-31-19, 09:15
When I got an opportunity I asked the girl how in hell she remembered me after such a long time and she just smiled and said "It's my job".Or she is one of 13 kids and lives in an area where everyone knows everyone else. Remebering others' details is definitely an acquired skill. Compare that to the west where it's getting more common not to know the name of your next door neighbor.

Enjoy. G.

WSlover123
06-02-19, 15:35
As for the local girls I used to talked; every body had a common impression about this place. That is 'Most unsafe place in Manila." Snatching, pick pocketing, mugging etc all things happening here.

The girls are hanging around the Hotel Sogo or seated on the steps of over pass. If you walk through the foots pimps are knocking you to pick one. Filthy, nasty and Dirty; Huge possibilities to be infected if some one even touch any of them. You are making me surprised if you see these girls are beautiful or acceptable for penetrate your tools.Sorry for very late reply I didn't connect here since my last posts about China and Manila in October.

I am not tall and strong, I don't look impressive but as I said I go in pasay rotonda for years, I walk the area all the time, even at 3 am, never been problem. Of course I never bring big money and never bring my smartphone (I have a simple one to put my Philippines simcard) and I wear simple t-shirt, short, sleeper or shoes. In short: I does not look like I am carrying 5000 pesos in cash with me.

That funny because the only time I had trouble in Manila was in Malate / Ermita area at 5 pm the 1st time I ve been there when after I exit the Robinson I refuse to give money to a man who told me he is working in my hotel and today that her niece birthday blablabla. And the same day, when a man try to pickpocket me in Adriatico street meanwhile another show me sunglasses he was selling.

Pasay rotonda is much safer than Malate / Ermita at night time (that my opinion). It can be impressive / scary because it is poor area, crowned and dodgy but that OK. And yes some street girls are as pretty as the one in hooker bar. At least 4 or 5 beauties on 30 - 40 prostitutes.

I like to stay there, you can go every where by public transport (or taxi that not a problem to have one) : makati malls, BGC (with a change), MOA, Malate / Ermita, karaoke bar in paranaque, the airport (both T1, T2 and T3) and even as far as Cubao. A good night for me is to go eat at MOA, then go back to my hotel take a shower or directly go to a a small karaoke bar (in paranaque (not far from solaire) where they sell beer cheaper than in the 7 / 11, have some beer drinks, sing along (20 pesos for 3 songs) . Then take back the jeepney to pasay rotonda and fuck 1 or 2 times and then go sleep safely in my room (shogun now urban traveller is good budget place)! Total damage for 1 night full of fun: 1000 pesos - 1200 pesos. I also sometime make friend, both men, girls and ladyboy. Filipino are warm-welcome, when they see you in places you are not suppose to be they often come to talk with you. Otherwise if you make friend with girl (not the waiter of the bar or the karaoke because they are professional) and pay her drinks, some entertainment that often she will reward you by going to your room for 1 hour or for the night. That already happened to me at least 3 times in 8 trips.

Otherwise if you are not too old the best it is to find a regular girlfriend from DIA. I always find for free who want more or less serious relationship. In 8 trips to the Philippines I have always find a nice educated girl between 21 and 29 years for free (or little damage like 5000 pesos for 1 week if she take a work leave) and me I was 32 to 39 years.

Jbj64
06-05-19, 19:58
Is it a smart phone app? Stupid question but my google apps does not show it?


Great report, thank you for the time and effort.

P.S. - You don't "hunt" on Smooci. It's an app to connect with escorts.

Kabul Guy
06-05-19, 22:04
Is it a smart phone app? Stupid question but my google apps does not show it?It is a web site that has listings of actively working girls, when they are listed they are available for immediate encounters. Rates pics etc all shown. You can get a premium membership that provides access to reviews and you can live track her progress to your hotel.

There is a banner ad on most pages here. They operate in many cities around the world.

Free2
06-06-19, 17:16
Pasay rotonda is much safer than Malate / Ermita at night time (that my opinion). It can be impressive / scary because it is poor area, crowned and dodgy but that OK. And yes some street girls are as pretty as the one in hooker bar. At least 4 or 5 beauties on 30 - 40 prostitutes.I have walked all around there many times and only saw super fuglies standing outside the couple cheap hotels. The guy is calling you in, but I declined. The girls try to get you in also.

I am very interested in what area the 30 to 40 hookers are to be found. Are they standing on the street or under the LRT extension towards Baclaran or. ?

Blanquiceleste
06-07-19, 01:02
Is it a smart phone app? Stupid question but my google apps does not show it?Strange! Its available on Android and iOS. This screen shot is from Oct 2018.

Soapy Smith
06-09-19, 00:43
I'm interested to know about others' recent experiences at NAIA 3. I arrived about 8 pm on May 9th and found the area beyond customs comparatively crowded with those arriving and others presumably waiting for them. In other recent trips I have walked across the several driveways / roadways and gotten a regular white cab at the furthest roadway--with no waiting, no fuss, except for occasional drivers who don't want to use the meter. Prior to white cabs being allowed at the terminals, I usually took the yellow airport taxis, with little waiting and without drivers trying to bargain around the meter.

Now the regular cabs have been moved to bay 12, and still out at the furthest roadway. A long line of at least 200 cab seekers was on the other side, with the line backed up way under the skyway. Forget it. So I went looking for yellow airport cabs, which are only a little more expensive than regular cabs but better maintained. Again, long, long lines. I don't ever remember lines that long, not at any of the terminals within the last three or four years. I finally settled for the more high-priced coupon cabs, and even then had to wait in line about 20 minutes. There were also long lines waiting for Grab.

I asked the driver why the taxi lines were so long, and he suggested that there were a lot of late arriving planes. But the lines for taxis were disproportionately long relative to the crowds inside, so it seemed more like a bottleneck situation.

Departing on the morning of the 29th I encountered a different kind of bottleneck getting into the terminal. Previously it was sufficient to arrive two hours before departure. Not this time. Long, long lines trying to get through the two entry door security checkpoints. (These outside security checkpoints are so ineffectual that their only apparent utility is for the cab-driver-and-security-agent-collaborators who worked the old "bullets in the luggage" bribe game.) I did notice a lot of porters in purple / burgundy outfits offering to help people bypass the usual lines--presumably for a fee. I was getting a little nervous when I was still in line outside the terminal at 75 minutes before flight time. There were signs near the entry doors indicating that senior citizens and "persons with disabilities" could bypass the line, so I asked a nearby porter whether this applied to foreign senior citizens as well. "No, only Filipinos. " But he asked if I was alone, and since I was, he whisked me past the line. I moved quickly to get my bags onto the conveyor, and when I looked back he was gone before I could tip him.

Inside there were no long lines at any of the airline ticket counters, so this was a specific kind of bottleneck that could have been solved by opening a third and / or fourth entry door. I should note there were also long lines to get through the three or four metal detector security checkpoints between ticketing and the departure gates, but these lines were moving fairly quickly.

WTF is going on with terminal 3? Are other people experiencing these same clusterfucks? Any advice for avoiding these bottlenecks other than paying the porters and pre-arranging drivers to pick you up on the arrival level?

Dg8787
06-09-19, 01:13
Soapy,

T3 has always been swamped. Over the past year or so a few more International carriers have relocated to T3 from T1. Huge crowds form from outgoing and incoming Filipino OFW's, along with sendoff or welcoming families.

A few years ago there were very long lines of awaiting taxi passengers with no taxis in sight. Now there are some lines of taxis. I guess this is an improvement!

Your best bet to enter T3 and bypass the x-ray line is to use the porters. I use the porters all the time. Not only do they bypass the long lines they take me directly to the senior citizen check in counter. Usually there is only 2 or 3 in line.

I tip the porters 100-200 pesos. Some times I slip the gate keeper at the senior check in 50 pesos.

It is strange but most people don't mind you cutting in line with the porter, they are kind of happy that the porter will be getting a tip. They graciously let the porter in from of them. Same with the check in people.

Arrival is a different story. You can go to Bay 13-14 and hop on the Resort World shuttle bus and get dropped off at one of the hotels and get a taxi from there. Last month I used the Resort World shuttle and got off at the first stop, Belmont Hotel, used the Grab app and got a car within 5 minutes.

You didn't say where you were going to from the airport. It might help to know that.

Goferring
06-09-19, 03:54
WTF is going on with terminal 3? Are other people experiencing these same clusterfucks? Any advice for avoiding these bottlenecks other than paying the porters and pre-arranging drivers to pick you up on the arrival level?I'm a reasonably frequent user of Cebu Pacific and don't have roo much trouble. Having said that most of my flights are red eyes so that helps with limiting numbers in the terminal.

If I arrive early or have a longish transit, I make use of things Airport Liunge to get away from the hordes and rest in peace. The Capsules are well worth it.

http://jipang-group.com/thewings/

Enjoy. G.

Wicked Roger
06-09-19, 04:03
I'm a reasonably frequent user of Cebu Pacific and don't have roo much trouble. Having said that most of my flights are red eyes so that helps with limiting numbers in the terminal.

If I arrive early or have a longish transit, I make use of things Airport Liunge to get away from the hordes and rest in peace. The Capsules are well worth it.

http://jipang-group.com/thewings/

Enjoy. G.That is what I do but the international flights can arrive mid afternoon at times and that is likely what Soapy experienced as then a dogs breakfast. What I do dislike are the large number of people meeting friends and family as this just adds to the overall throng of people in the terminal. You can't stop it but why do some bring lola, lolo and all 15 relatives for one person and then stand and greet them etc thus holding up others at times who are trying to get out. This happened a lot in some Middle East airport but there was stopped when kids actually ran into the arrival hall area when the doors opened. And then the parents followed!

DG has a sensible solution to the taxis.

Soapy Smith
06-09-19, 12:22
Soapy,

T3 has always been swamped. Over the past year or so a few more International carriers have relocated to T3 from T1. Huge crowds form from outgoing and incoming Filipino OFW's, along with sendoff or welcoming families.

(snip)

I tip the porters 100-200 pesos. Some times I slip the gate keeper at the senior check in 50 pesos.

(snip)

You didn't say where you were going to from the airport. It might help to know that.Thanks G and Dg for your replies. The increased number of carriers moving to T3 makes sense. Tipping suggestions are helpful; 200 php is not a lot of money for anybody who can afford to travel to and from the Phils. It strikes me that average Filipinos don't think in terms of large tips, to cabbies, waiters, porters, or anybody else, and then they extend a sort of class deference to foreigners who do give comparatively large tips--by Filipino standards. It's the same sort of class deference that leads Filipinos to keep re-electing the same families to national office, as though only a small group of wealthy families are capable of performing these duties.

Last two trips I had a condo near SM Manila. Both times the taxis, one regular, one coupon, took me down Roxas Blvd. and crossed over to Taft at Luneta Park. The taxi travel time was not bad at all. I guess I was spoiled my last time in via PAL from San Francisco in November. Arrival at 4 am and departure at 9 pm, thus missing the worst of the crowds at T3. Perhaps PAL has the luxury of planning around NAIA traffic, especially for flights that cross the International Date Line.

Member #4698
06-09-19, 13:08
I tip the porters 100-200 pesos. Some times I slip the gate keeper at the senior check in 50 pesos.
I tip the porters too when there are large lines. They seem happy with 100 p and it is worth every centavo.

Good advice about arrivals too. I waited in line about 20 minutes for a metered taxi last time I arrived and I thought that was an improvement from the time before. But don't get me started on MNL taxis. LOL. One night I couldn't find a taxi to save my soul. I ended up walking from the Fairmont (GreenBelt) to Burgos St. It only took about 30 minutes. Another night I started out in a taxi, but traffic was at a standstill halfway there, so I bailed a few blocks from Burgos St. and walked the rest of the way. I think the taxi beat me there by a head. No problem getting a taxi at COD (Aseana City) however.

Bigstud
06-10-19, 05:00
I tip the porters too when there are large lines. They seem happy with 100 p and it is worth every centavo.

Good advice about arrivals too. I waited in line about 20 minutes for a metered taxi last time I arrived and I thought that was an improvement from the time before. But don't get me started on MNL taxis. LOL. One night I couldn't find a taxi to save my soul. I ended up walking from the Fairmont (GreenBelt) to Burgos St. It only took about 30 minutes. Another night I started out in a taxi, but traffic was at a standstill halfway there, so I bailed a few blocks from Burgos St. and walked the rest of the way. I think the taxi beat me there by a head. No problem getting a taxi at COD (Aseana City) however.Natty, the much better alternative is Grab! Download the app, choose the credit card payment option, and enjoy the ride.

Mr Enternational
06-10-19, 05:43
Natty, the much better alternative is Grab! Download the app, choose the credit card payment option, and enjoy the ride.Slow down buddy. There are many times when Grab is not available when you come in to the airport. Like Dg said, you have to hop on that Resorts World shuttle and go over to those hotels and try to order one from there or get a taxi from over there.

Nazgylg15
06-11-19, 17:31
Hello gents,

Would you recommend visiting Manila / Angeles in mid Aug. 10-20 ?The purpose of my visit would be solely for mongering and am bit reluctant because of the rain. I have seen reports on tripadvisor of manila getting flooded and people advising against visiting albeit for tourism. I checked the weather reports and most suggest sporadic showers / thunderstorms for most days. Would weather affect availability of girls?

BR,

Nazgyl.

Nazgylg15
06-11-19, 17:40
Strange! Its available on Android and iOS. This screen shot is from Oct 2018.I remember reading on the smooci thread, the app is for escorts to quickly check the booking and respond. The clients would have to use the web I suppose.

Dg8787
06-11-19, 18:47
Hello gents,

Would you recommend visiting Manila / Angeles in mid Aug. 10-20 ?The purpose of my visit would be solely for mongering and am bit reluctant because of the rain. I have seen reports on tripadvisor of manila getting flooded and people advising against visiting albeit for tourism. I checked the weather reports and most suggest sporadic showers / thunderstorms for most days. Would weather affect availability of girls?

BR,

Nazgyl.Monsoon season is terrible. So bad that girls fuck old ugly foreigners hoping for a ticket out of there.

My best memories are holed up in a hotel room with 3 sweeties for a few days riding out the storm.

Transporter
06-11-19, 18:57
Hello gents,

Would you recommend visiting Manila / Angeles in mid Aug. 10-20 ?The purpose of my visit would be solely for mongering and am bit reluctant because of the rain. I have seen reports on tripadvisor of manila getting flooded and people advising against visiting albeit for tourism. I checked the weather reports and most suggest sporadic showers / thunderstorms for most days. Would weather affect availability of girls?

BR,

Nazgyl.Kind of depends on how much rain. Rainy season is typhoon season, so a typhoon will affect the girls yes. And heavy rains will effect the girls also, but more so in Manila. In AC I wouldn't worry about the rain too much (unless you melt with water) there are so many girls, and there for sure will be enough to go around, yes the numbers may be a little less, buy you may not even notice. In Manila, heavy rains will effect the girls, as they don't have a good water drainage system there, and the streets / roads will get flooded hindering transportation. There is good and bad with that, depending where the girls are stranded it could also work to your favor, as the last heavy rain stranded many girls at work. KTV girls who don't normally go out with customers were eager to do overnights with clients (found them on wechat). Just as long as you stay at a hotel that has a backup generator and provisions enough so you can get things to eat. Don't stay on the ground floor, and if a heavy rain is due in, stock up on some supplies (water and food). I didn't have a problem before but it was only flooding for a week, I guess if it was longer, it would have been a problem.

Dg8787
06-11-19, 19:01
Thanks G and Dg for your replies. The increased number of carriers moving to T3 makes sense. Tipping suggestions are helpful; 200 php is not a lot of money for anybody who can afford to travel to and from the Phils. It strikes me that average Filipinos don't think in terms of large tips, to cabbies, waiters, porters, or anybody else, and then they extend a sort of class deference to foreigners who do give comparatively large tips--by Filipino standards. It's the same sort of class deference that leads Filipinos to keep re-electing the same families to national office, as though only a small group of wealthy families are capable of performing these duties.

Last two trips I had a condo near SM Manila. Both times the taxis, one regular, one coupon, took me down Roxas Blvd. and crossed over to Taft at Luneta Park. The taxi travel time was not bad at all. I guess I was spoiled my last time in via PAL from San Francisco in November. Arrival at 4 am and departure at 9 pm, thus missing the worst of the crowds at T3. Perhaps PAL has the luxury of planning around NAIA traffic, especially for flights that cross the International Date Line.We associated money and cost to our subjective earning power. 200 peso ($4. 00) is nothing compared to my hourly or daily earnings. 200 pesos is well above the average Filipino hourly wage. Hence waiting an hour is well worth it to them.

Local or provincial elections are usually won by the highest paying vote buyer. I know a girl who travelled to the province to vote and was paid 5 k for her vote. A lot of voters got 5 k. When I meantioned this to another girl from another province. She said she only got 2 k for her vote! Corruption must pay well to buy votes and to continue the family business.

Your hotels are not that far away. Kilometer wise. Time wise is another story depending on the time of day or night.

Bushes
06-11-19, 19:15
Only had one but it was nice to have it on tap in between room service and working. Reminds me of my college days.


Monsoon season is terrible. So bad that girls fuck old ugly foreigners hoping for a ticket out of there.

My best memories are holed up in a hotel room with 3 sweeties for a few days riding out the storm.

Goferring
06-11-19, 21:56
Local or provincial elections are usually won by the highest paying vote buyer. I know a girl who travelled to the province to vote and was paid 5 k for her vote. A lot of voters got 5 k. When I meantioned this to another girl from another province. She said she only got 2 k for her vote! Corruption must pay well to buy votes and to continue the family business.Not to get too far off topic but in a lot of jurisdictions this is the cause of a lot of post election violence. Big promises and commitments are made to garner votes on the assumption that a win will provide funding sources to fulfill these. It comes as a big surprise when the candidate places 4th and then has the masses banging on his door looking for what was promised in exchange for their vote.

Cheers. G.

Nazgylg15
06-12-19, 03:59
Monsoon season is terrible. So bad that girls fuck old ugly foreigners hoping for a ticket out of there.

My best memories are holed up in a hotel room with 3 sweeties for a few days riding out the storm.

Kind of depends on how much rain. Rainy season is typhoon season, so a typhoon will affect the girls yes. And heavy rains will effect the girls also, but more so in Manila. In AC I wouldn't worry about the rain too much (unless you melt with water) there are so many girls, and there for sure will be enough to go around, yes the numbers may be a little less, buy you may not even notice. In Manila, heavy rains will effect the girls, as they don't have a good water drainage system there, and the streets / roads will get flooded hindering transportation. There is good and bad with that, depending where the girls are stranded it could also work to your favor, as the last heavy rain stranded many girls at work. KTV girls who don't normally go out with customers were eager to do overnights with clients (found them on wechat). Just as long as you stay at a hotel that has a backup generator and provisions enough so you can get things to eat. Don't stay on the ground floor, and if a heavy rain is due in, stock up on some supplies (water and food). I didn't have a problem before but it was only flooding for a week, I guess if it was longer, it would have been a problem.Thanks Dg and Transporter for your views and much appreciated.

Soapy Smith
06-12-19, 18:54
Kind of depends on how much rain. Rainy season is typhoon season, so a typhoon will affect the girls yes. And heavy rains will effect the girls also, but more so in Manila. In AC I wouldn't worry about the rain too much (unless you melt with water) there are so many girls, and there for sure will be enough to go around, yes the numbers may be a little less, buy you may not even notice. In Manila, heavy rains will effect the girls, as they don't have a good water drainage system there, and the streets / roads will get flooded hindering transportation. Actually, monsoons bring much more rain that do typhoons. Typhoons bring strong winds from East to West off the Pacific and do lots of damage, but because they move quickly they don't typically suck up too much water. Monsoons move more slowly, usually moving from Southwest to Northeast, and thus suck a lot of rain off the South China Sea. Sometimes they hold almost stationary (called a hanging monsoon or hanging habagat) and just continuously circulate rain onto the big island, Luzon.

Flooding does occur in the Manila streets, and it doesn't run off because of a) poor drainage systems and because b) much of Manila is relatively low-lying relative to Manila Bay and the rivers and esteros that drain the area. Taxis are often the first victims, since water in the streets is too deep for them. If you and lady friend are comfortable traveling in jeepneys, they keep going when taxis can't, because their suspension holds the passenger areas and engines well above water in the streets. Also, the light rail systems are not usually affected by rain.

Other tips. Bring a small umbrella, but strong enough to withstand wind. Carry pocket change and a few small bills. Entrepreneurial locals will put down wooden planks that straddle the deep water alongside the curb, and they collect from pedestrians for using the plank. Also, sometimes the best way to get across a flooded street is a pedicab; that is, a bicycle with sidecar and operators with strong calf muscles.

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06-22-19, 07:26
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JoeBesser
06-25-19, 19:23
Hi!

I'll be in Manila for a week in early August. Would love to know if pregnant girls (7 months up) are readily available. Or lactating girls. Any ideas as to where to look?

Thanks!

VictorHugo99
06-26-19, 00:30
Hi M T,

What is the damage?

Appreciate the contact details.

Vic.


If you are in need of a sure thing then always happy to share. Pm me.

NWGuy
06-27-19, 23:47
I am playing catch up with everything as I haven't been there in a long time and I just read that Amazonia closed a while back. I had so much fun there and am really sad that it is gone.

OK so, besides LA Cafe, where else now in that area is there to go for just hanging out and drinking beer and playing pool and having girls all over you haha?

Wicked Roger
06-28-19, 05:12
I am playing catch up with everything as I haven't been there in a long time and I just read that Amazonia closed a while back. I had so much fun there and am really sad that it is gone.

OK so, besides LA Cafe, where else now in that area is there to go for just hanging out and drinking beer and playing pool and having girls all over you haha?So much one can say NWGuy but it would a long response on the board so best PM me so we can narrow down what exactly you need and where in Manila s the city is so big and sprawling so lets PM and sort this.

Look forward to the PM.

D Cups
06-28-19, 17:55
I am playing catch up with everything as I haven't been there in a long time and I just read that Amazonia closed a while back. I had so much fun there and am really sad that it is gone.

OK so, besides LA Cafe, where else now in that area is there to go for just hanging out and drinking beer and playing pool and having girls all over you haha?Ya, I miss Amazonia, too. Liked it better than LAC. There are some small clubs up the block from LAC but I can't remember the names. I spend more time in AC now.

VictorHugo99
06-30-19, 00:45
Attempt to write an unbiased report on my recent trip to MNL.

I had invested heavy time in Pinalove, Viber and Skype. I wanted a GFE feeling (I am aware it is just for the duration of my visit, no false hopes).

Met Thérèse at *** 3 as planned, was pleasantly surprised that she stayed to wait as my plane was 1 hour late, Paris-Singapore-MNL. Late 20's and darker toned skin, but a pleasant personality.

Picked up a Sim card, got Globe (thanks to advice from Pros).

She was very shy and was glad to see me finally. It was nice to experience a romantic surreal moment. Like in the films.

À hellish experience finding a good taxi. Had to change a few times when they started to change prices once we got up. Will use Uber or Grab next time.

Got to our hotel. Nice and neat, not too costly. As I had to fly off the next day. To the provinces for work.

We decided to put our stuff in, then went straight out to SM for Chowking with her. She was happy to have the meal together, we talked about her family, her work, her relationships. A great moment.

Wonderful to be able to talk to girls in Ph, compared with other countries. Without signing up for Thai courses that is.

When we got back to the hotel, it was quite funny.

She insisted that we take shower separately, and I was not allowed to see her naked.

She asked to switch off the lights before coming out of the shower. I had already made sure she was not a LB, so no sweat.

We spent 10 minutes kissing and foreplay, before continuing with the serious stuff. DFK, DATY went well.

My thermometer test was the BBBJ and she passed with flying colors! We then proceeded to 69, before she started to ask for more.

We spent the 20 mins just enjoying each other's touch, with soft music playing, while she moaned and called.

I penetrated finally and I could tell that she was not a pro at all.

Most pros will overdo it just to get us to come quickly, she just enjoyed with me.

We laid panting after 45 mins of heavenly sensations, and had a water break. After 10 minutes, we continued again, for another 40 minutes into the 2nd round.

She unfortunately did not allow Greek, so I had to settle with 2 holes instead of 3. I did not insist as she experienced pain when I tried. Perhaps for another time.

On the whole, it was a romantic, unrushed girl friend experience and totally worth the chatting time invested.

The next morning, she accompanied me to the airport again as I flew south.

I handed her 2000 P, as well as her bus fare to get back to Cavite. Will look for her to rekindle the feeling again. Soon I hope.

She was probably a 5/10 for looks, not curvy like most PH girls, but she was a "nice" encounter.

Hope the report helps encourage those wondering about usefulness to chat to persevere.

Victor.

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Kabul Guy
06-30-19, 22:38
......

hellish experience finding a good taxi. Had to change a few times when they started to change prices once we got up. Will use Uber or Grab next time.

.....Uber sold out to Grab in the Philippines. Only ride sharing app I know of active is Grab.

I was using Uber before the buy out, only because I had the app already on my phone, but found that the Grab app is better.

WestCoast1
07-01-19, 03:23
Attempt to write an unbiased report on my recent trip to MNL. SNIP

She was very shy and was glad to see me finally. It was nice to experience a romantic surreal moment. Like in the films. SNIP

I handed her 2000 P, as well as her bus fare to get back to Cavite. Will look for her to rekindle the feeling again. Soon I hope.

She was probably a 5/10 for looks, not curvy like most Ph girls, but she was a "nice" encounter. Victor.Too many pics in the phils threads, not enough good FR's. Nice work Victor. Watch the hard returns, too many paragraphs, makes it hard to read.

VictorHugo99
07-03-19, 21:10
Thanks for the clarification.

Vic.


Uber sold out to Grab in the Philippines. Only ride sharing app I know of active is Grab.

I was using Uber before the buy out, only because I had the app already on my phone, but found that the Grab app is better.

Victorsam
07-09-19, 21:07
Hai bro,

I am planning to visit manila next week I came across manilaescorts who are having Russian ladies according to their website, but I couldn't get any reviews about this agency. If anyone has tried this agency may share Their views. Thanks in advance. Dboy.

Wicked Roger
07-10-19, 10:47
Hai bro,

I am planning to visit manila next week I came across manilaescorts who are having Russian ladies according to their website, but I couldn't get any reviews about this agency. If anyone has tried this agency may share Their views. Thanks in advance. Dboy.So you are visiting Manila to meet Russian WGs.

Best PM me as I can't give you contacts openly on the board.

Look forward to the PM.

Engine Driver
07-11-19, 12:19
Hai bro,

I am planning to visit manila next week I came across manilaescorts who are having Russian ladies according to their website, but I couldn't get any reviews about this agency. If anyone has tried this agency may share Their views. Thanks in advance. Dboy.Why don't you take one for the team? Book the hot Ruskie, get her to come to your room, bang her and report back on the experience?

Escort Fan
07-11-19, 14:21
Hai bro,

I am planning to visit manila next week I came across manilaescorts who are having Russian ladies according to their website, but I couldn't get any reviews about this agency. If anyone has tried this agency may share Their views. Thanks in advance. Dboy.Any reason you'd want to book a 3rd rate Russian in Manila (let's get real top Russian girls go to London or Paris not Manila!) instead of eating local?

Azmodeus Fl
07-11-19, 15:45
Why go to Manila just to fuck a Russian? I want the local talent and I do not want the girls who are using skin bleaching soaps or creams.

Member #4698
07-11-19, 16:26
I can just imagine the quality of these quote "Russian Girls" un quote in Manila. Not very good!

If the OP wants a real Russian girl of doable quality or better I suggest he go to #1 Moscow, #2 Las Veags, #3 Macau (Yes they have smokin' hot, real Russian and Ukrainian girls in Macau, but for around $400/ session), #4 Singapore (Brix bar occasionally has a few of good quality), and #5 NYC. However, if the OP is not fussy about quality, I think he can do better in Jakarta than MNL. In Jakarta he should check out 1001 Hotel and Malioboro. Both of these bordellos always have 6 to 10 former Russian Federation (Uzbek) white girls on hand and although these girls are undoable IMHO, I would bet good money that they are more attractive than their older sisters working in Manila.


Why don't you take one for the team? Book the hot Ruskie, get her to come to your room, bang her and report back on the experience? Good One EG. I concur. The OP should take one for the team and report back. She might be a gem. Who knows? LOL.

Blanquiceleste
07-12-19, 00:51
If the OP wants a real Russian girl of doable quality or better I suggest he go to #1 Moscow, #2 Las Veags, #3 Macau (Yes they have smokin' hot, real Russian and Ukrainian girls in Macau, but for around $400/ session), #4 Singapore (Brix bar occasionally has a few of good quality), and #5 NYC. .Add Dubai and Bahrain to this list. Definitely much better than what you will find in Singapore or NYC. Maybe even the other 2 places other than Moscow.

Kabul Guy
07-12-19, 05:10
Add Dubai and Bahrain to this list. ....A few years ago in Dubai the Russians were asking a lot more than the $400 previously quoted. More like $1,000 and up and often not all night for that amount.

All night was $2,000 and up.

Lots of rich Arabs from other GCC there looking for big busted women.

Bushes
07-12-19, 05:44
Having done regular Eastern European / Russian girls in NYC and Moscow and WG in Macau / HK and Moscow, I would vote for regular in NYC and WG in Macau / HK. Safer. Attitude is a problem sometimes with WG.


If the OP wants a real Russian girl of doable quality or better I suggest he go to #1 Moscow, #2 Las Veags, #3 Macau (Yes they have smokin' hot, real Russian and Ukrainian girls in Macau, but for around $400/ session), #4 Singapore (Brix bar occasionally has a few of good quality), and #5 NYC. However, if the OP is not fussy about quality, I think he can do better in Jakarta than MNL. In Jakarta he should check out 1001 Hotel and Malioboro. Both of these bordellos always have 6 to 10 former Russian Federation (Uzbek) white girls on hand and although these girls are undoable IMHO, I would bet good money that they are more attractive than their older sisters working in Manila..

Blanquiceleste
07-12-19, 14:32
A few years ago in Dubai the Russians were asking a lot more than the $400 previously quoted. More like $1,000 and up and often not all night for that amount.

All night was $2,000 and up.

Lots of rich Arabs from other GCC there looking for big busted women.Yeah. Those guys are frigging crazy.

And if you think the Russians in Dubai are hot, you should head over to Bahrain and take a look. You will be blown out of your mind. And prices are just as crazy, sometimes even worse. The wealthy Saudis, Kuwaitis and Qataris head over to Manama for their share of fun. And those big boys make the UAE sheiks look like beggars.

Anyways, white girls don't appeal to me from a sexual perspective anymore.

NewImage
07-13-19, 12:31
Ok so know that peak hour in Manila is 6 to 9 am and 5 to 9 pm. Saturday morning lots of people go shopping and Sunday coming back into Manila is not good apparently as many are returning home.

So have a flexible schedule so. Travelling to Angeles is best after 9 pm? Any day is fine?

Travel back to Manila. Same but if check out is 12 just head back then? But not on Sun?

Travel to Puerto Galera. Any day is fine?

But return from PG heard boats can get full esp Sun & hols.

Advice is always stay in Manila night before flight, right?

Also going 3/12 - 23/12 not sure how long I want to stay at any of the 3 places Manila, PG or Angeles. Want to be flexible. Do I need to book to ensure I get hotel of choice. Its prob high season so do hotels fill up quick?

Appreciate.

Mr Enternational
07-13-19, 14:05
So have a flexible schedule so. Travelling to Angeles is best after 9 pm? Any day is fine?Dude you are overthinking it. Just go. I have never sat around and said well I can not go to so and so until the clock strikes 9. Only be mindful if you are leaving somewhere and heading directly to the airport in Manila to leave yourself enough time because of heavy traffic.

There are tons of hotels. Just look on a site like hotelsdotcom for availability when you are on your way to whatever city.

Member #4698
07-13-19, 14:40
So have a flexible schedule so. Travelling to Angeles is best after 9 pm? Any day is fine?
I wouldn't go to AC at 9 pm. That sounds terrible to me. Your killing a day hanging around MNL for no good reason and screwing up your night in AC. The best time to go to AC is anytime after morning rush hour and before evening rush hour. 10:30 pm to 3 pm is your window unless you are arriving at the airport internationally and have no choice. Not only will you suffer the least amount of traffic, but you will arrive in AC with plenty of time to settle in and hit the bars. Returning to MNL on Sunday is problematic unless you beat the traffic by leaving AC early in the morning.

NewImage
07-14-19, 09:01
I wouldn't go to AC at 9 pm. That sounds terrible to me. Your killing a day hanging around MNL for no good reason and screwing up your night in AC. The best time to go to AC is anytime after morning rush hour and before evening rush hour. 10:30 pm to 3 pm is your window unless you are arriving at the airport internationally and have no choice. Not only will you suffer the least amount of traffic, but you will arrive in AC with plenty of time to settle in and hit the bars. Returning to MNL on Sunday is problematic unless you beat the traffic by leaving AC early in the morning.Unfort I arrive at 5 pm on a Tues which gives me the option of a night in Manila or wait till after 9 and get a bus or taxi to Angeles.

I also want to go to Sabang so coming back thru Manila will mean a stop overnight there.

One of the issues is I fly out Mon night late but advice says I should come back a day before which means coming from Sabang on a Sunday which is not advisable.

I have been told the best time to come back to Manila is Sunday night late so maybe I reverse my trip and go Sabang firts and Angeles second? Thoughts.

NI.

Red Kilt
07-14-19, 09:15
Travel to Puerto Galera. Any day is fine?

But return from PG heard boats can get full esp Sun & hols.
Note that the Mayor has now stopped all small bancas from travelling from Batangas to PG. Customers have to use the larger ferries now.

Your options are dictated by the schedules now.

NewImage
07-14-19, 09:48
Note that the Mayor has now stopped all small bancas from travelling from Batangas to PG. Customers have to use the larger ferries now.
Your options are dictated by the schedules now.Yes maybe he's getting a cut off the trike mafia. Prefer the Sabang express.

NI.

Engine Driver
07-14-19, 10:47
Note that the Mayor has now stopped all small bancas from travelling from Batangas to PG. Customers have to use the larger ferries now.

Your options are dictated by the schedules now.This has been the case for over a year now. I was there last year and the large ferries were the only option. The little pier at PG doesn't exist as that's where they are building the much needed shit farm. The disused bancas were all lined up on the shore, obviously with no where to go.

Engine Driver
07-14-19, 10:50
Unfort I arrive at 5 pm on a Tues which gives me the option of a night in Manila or wait till after 9 and get a bus or taxi to Angeles.

I also want to go to Sabang so coming back thru Manila will mean a stop overnight there.

One of the issues is I fly out Mon night late but advice says I should come back a day before which means coming from Sabang on a Sunday which is not advisable.

I have been told the best time to come back to Manila is Sunday night late so maybe I reverse my trip and go Sabang firts and Angeles second? Thoughts.

NI.You have been planning this trip for a very long time (nearly a year now). I think we are all looking forward to reading the reports LOL.

Goferring
07-14-19, 11:29
You have been planning this trip for a very long time (nearly a year now). I think we are all looking forward to reading the reports LOL.I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but I know several residents / frequent repeat visitors that have stopped going to Sabang purely because of the fuck around factor not being worth it to them.

Note I said to them. I wish NI a good break and I'm sure there are people who still enjoy going there. As usual YMMV applies to everyone and everywhere.

Enjoy. G.

NewImage
07-14-19, 14:06
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade but I know several residents / frequent repeat visitors that have stopped going to Sabang purely because of the fuck around factor not being worth it to them.
Note I said to them. I wish NI a good break and I'm sure there are people who still enjoy going there. As usual YMMV applies to everyone and everywhere.
Enjoy. G.Thanks for everyone's patients. Yeah I have been planning a long way ahead.
Have got airfares booked already return to Manila from 3rd to 23 rd Dec.
God dam it just want some Filipina pussy and a beach but don't want to BYO. Why isn't there a Phuket or pattaya (not that thats a beach in my eyes ) place in Phils.
I go stir crazy just sitting in hotel rooms or lazing by the pool in places like Angeles where I could last maybe 9 days at the most.
Don't beat me up but have been thinking about changing to go to Cebu & then around Mactan & close Islands - better option than a Sabang/ Angeles double?

I do give back - if you want a read my JBR from KL are on the Mal KL forum.
NI

Member #4698
07-14-19, 14:39
God dam it just want some Filipina pussy and a beach but don't want to BYO. Why isn't there a Phuket or pattaya (not that thats a beach in my eyes ) place in Phils.
There is always Subic (Barrio Barretto). The beach (Baloy Beach) is like Pattaya. Fucked up. But the town has plenty of bars with friendly girls, floating bars, and a sea breeze, plus its very close to AC, so if you get tired of AC or just want a fast, no hassle change of scenery I suggest you go there.


Unfort I arrive at 5 pm on a Tues which gives me the option of a night in Manila or wait till after 9 and get a bus or taxi to Angeles.You will most likely receive different opinions on this, but for me it would be a no brainer: I would stay in Manila if I was arriving a 5pm and have a really good time on Burgos St. or at the EDSA Entertainment Complex and then the following day take a leisurely ride up to AC. But that's because I really like Manila bar girls and I think they are the hottest bar girls in the PI. Sure, they cost more; splurge a little. It's only money and it's your 1st night in country! Besides you can always do a little Dollar-Cost Averaging later with your Perimeter Road or Barrio Barretto bar girls. You will thank me for this suggestion later.

NewImage
07-14-19, 22:53
There is always Subic (Barrio Barretto). The beach (Baloy Beach) is like Pattaya. Fucked up. But the town has plenty of bars with friendly girls, floating bars, and a sea breeze, plus its very close to AC, so if you get tired of AC or just want a fast, no hassle change of scenery I suggest you go there.

You will most likely receive different opinions on this, but for me it would be a no brainer: I would stay in Manila if I was arriving a 5pm and have a really good time on Burgos St. or at the EDSA Entertainment Complex and then the following day take a leisurely ride up to AC. But that's because I really like Manila bar girls and I think they are the hottest bar girls in the PI. Sure, they cost more; splurge a little. It's only money and it's your 1st night in country! Besides you can always do a little Dollar-Cost Averaging later with your Perimeter Road or Barrio Barretto bar girls. You will thank me for this suggestion later.As always your suggestions are helpful. Have been to Subic but I would prefer a beach where I could swim or snorkel. Like Pattaya prob would only stick my toe into the water at Subic.

I am leaning to your suggestions re first night in Manila too.

Thanks.

NI.

Mr Enternational
07-15-19, 03:31
Have been to Subic but I would prefer a beach where I could swim or snorkel. Like Pattaya prob would only stick my toe into the water at Subic.Puerto Galera really is not that beach IMHO. I would not say it is as bad as Subic or Pattaya, but it is no Boracay either. It is definitely a great place for scuba diving though.

Goferring
07-15-19, 04:26
Don't beat me up but have been thinking about changing to go to Cebu & then around Mactan & close Islands - better option than a Sabang/ Angeles double?

NIThis is VERY do able. Cebu City has everything from sleazy bars on Mango Ave to high end discos and clubs where you can try your Game / luck. It also has what I consider the best online action in all of PI.

Some OKish beaches around town and some very nice places within a couple hours day trip or overnighter. BYO is easiest but again, many are there online. You just need to have a look. Alona, Malapascua, Moalboal are all very nice and girls would jump at the chance of going there for a day or two.

Enjoy. G.

Red Kilt
07-15-19, 05:26
This has been the case for over a year now. I was there last year and the large ferries were the only option. The little pier at PG doesn't exist as that's where they are building the much needed shit farm. The disused bancas were all lined up on the shore, obviously with no where to go.Not true ED. Please don't give incorrect information.

The embargo started on July 1.

I was there a few weeks ago in mid-June. Picked up by a pre-ordered banca on a beach in Batangas and straight across to El Galleon pontoon.

Many bancas were still plying the route. It's stopped now though although some resort owners are getting together to buy their own larger fast ferries. Expect them on the water in a few months.

Bushes
07-15-19, 06:49
At least someone has long term and short term memory intact. NI Guy has been all over the boards. But some of the information given has changed. I still like to fly if have the pesos.


You have been planning this trip for a very long time (nearly a year now). I think we are all looking forward to reading the reports LOL.

Engine Driver
07-15-19, 09:29
Not true ED. Please don't give incorrect information.

The embargo started on July 1.

I was there a few weeks ago in mid-June. Picked up by a pre-ordered banca on a beach in Batangas and straight across to El Galleon pontoon.

Many bancas were still plying the route. It's stopped now though although some resort owners are getting together to buy their own larger fast ferries. Expect them on the water in a few months.Hold your horses RK. We might be talking about different things here. I was talking about the large commercial operations which normal tourists go to. Last November 2018, I got to Batangas and was told that the fast ferry was the only option available. The lady at the counter said that Sabang Pier was permanently closed and that the bancas don't operate anymore. Muelle Pier was now the point of disembarkation. Here below is a picture of the ferry MV Golden Raptor at Batangas which I was about to board. There is also a picture of Muelle Pier. I have also attached a picture of Sabang Beach which shows the shit farm under construction (green canopy). This was where Sabang Pier was previously. When I pulled into Muelle Port, there were 3-4 abandoned Father and Son Lines bancas lined up on the shore. These boats used to take tourists.

Here is also a newspaper article link from August 2018 showing the shit farm under construction, so Sabang Pier was closed before that date.

http://www.puertodegalera.com/dpwh-grants-p150m-for-treatment-plants-of-pg/

Goferring
07-15-19, 10:50
Not true ED. Please don't give incorrect information.

The embargo started on July 1.

I was there a few weeks ago in mid-June. Picked up by a pre-ordered banca on a beach in Batangas and straight across to El Galleon pontoon.

Many bancas were still plying the route. It's stopped now though although some resort owners are getting together to buy their own larger fast ferries. Expect them on the water in a few months.RK, I'm interested why you used a charter banca vs flying. Last time I was there (admittedly a few years ago now) the Juan Air flight was faster and cheaper than one person hiring a car / charter banca.

If the direct to your door charter bancas have been stopped too, the plane would seem to the the most stress free way to go.

Cheers. G.

NewImage
07-15-19, 12:07
RK, I'm interested why you used a charter banca vs flying. Last time I was there (admittedly a few years ago now) the Juan Air flight was faster and cheaper than one person hiring a car / charter banca.
If the direct to your door charter bancas have been stopped too, the plane would seem to the the most stress free way to go.
Cheers. G.The seaplane often cancels flights and is really unreliable re scheduling. Also when I looked at the cost it was way too much compared to getting a fastcraft over.

NewImage
07-15-19, 12:10
This is VERY do able. Cebu City has everything from sleazy bars on Mango Ave to high end discos and clubs where you can try your Game / luck. It also has what I consider the best online action in all of PI.
Some OKish beaches around town and some very nice places within a couple hours day trip or overnighter. BYO is easiest but again, many are there online. You just need to have a look. Alona, Malapascua, Moalboal are all very nice and girls would jump at the chance of going there for a day or two.
Enjoy. G.Yes have been looking at this option and it is getting more appealing. Apparently Nalusuan Island has great snorkeling too and an abundance of fish.

NI.

Member #4794
07-17-19, 18:38
Manila. It is what it is. Trip report.

Day 1.

Landed in Manila took a metered taxi and got to Dragonlink Suites.

Dragonlink Suites was OK for the most part affordable but Chinese owned. Chinese owned hotels always a pain in the ass when it comes to policy. They beat the Filipinos to death is asinine rules and procedures that only serve to inconvenience the guest. (fines for pushing more than 3 buttons on the elevator and jumping on the elevator for example) But for 22-35 a night can't really complain to much was clean and room wise was nice enough. Their ID policy is a little hit and miss. I fuck almost anything that moves when I first get off the plane so I grabbed a free lancer on P burgos st. She wanted 3 k but I talked her down to 1 k + tip and she asked me why I was so cheap to which I replied "that is what you are worth" to which she agreed. I would say a solid 6/10 not a looker but better than jerking off to take the edge off. Trick to getting these girls cheap is asking if they had any customers if they haven't they will take almost any amount of money. I had a MILF offer me a blow job right before I met the girl I went with for 700 hard pass. So time to call the girls I had lined up and I called over a couple of college girls problem with these chicks is they are dirt poor they don't have money for anything so I ordered a grab to pick them up and bring them to the hotel. I'm going to preface this by saying this was a fail. These girls were both 19 and from the barangay and extremely naive and visibly shaking when they went up to the room. I asked her if she was up for it and she replied no. I asked her if she understood why I called her and she said yes. Long story short I said fuck it and escorted them out, good news is I was only out the money for the grab. It was late by this time. So I went out and grabbed some food at the Filling Station and did some bar hopping. The bars on P burgos street have unreasonably high bar fines plus tip. So I just called it a night.

Day 2.

Early the next morning I called a college girl (20) from cavite which is a little south of manila. This girl had been a lesbian for all of her college years so she hasn't had a dick for many years so she says. I told her I would reimburse her travel expenses which added up to around 750 pesos 2 jeepneys and a grab from the terminal. This girl didn't look like the typical bar girl. The staff kind of gave me hard time at the reception because of the way she looked. They made me photo copy her college ID kind of bullshit but it is what it is. I took her up to the room and we had talked about what we would do to each other when we finally saw each other so it was exciting and I was into the idea that she hadn't had dick for a very long time. She kept saying that she had to go to the bathroom to do something. I wasn't sure what, she said she was "shy" I thought maybe menstruation or some bullshit I was ready for disappointment again. Nope. Full on jungle Bush I'm going to say a little bit off putting I love eating pussy but there was so much hair this was not the day for that but she was dripping wet like a basset Hound in heat. The sex was actually great her body shivered with anticipation and she had some convulsions while doing the deed unlike bar girl dead pussy she squeezed her pussy as hard as she could and came multiple times through the magic of tadalafil I was able to keep up for a few hours. The look in these non bar girls eyes is way different after you have fucked a few 100 bar girls you'll know what I mean. Bar girls have this look in their eyes like they aren't all there as if they are looking past you at at this stage in the game for me disdain and indifference in any form is a turn off for me. I gave her 2 k for travel expenses and another 2 k for her coming out all that way. I also let her tag along with me at a Korean bbq place. Over all I had a good time exactly what I wanted to happen happened.

The next day I was off to AC. To be continued in the AC forum.

Renaldo B
07-18-19, 05:20
Manila. It is what it is. Trip report.

The next day I was off to AC. To be continued in the AC forum.Hi MM,

Great post! I'm in AC for a couple of days and hope to learn some tips and techniques from you if that's OK.

Member #4794
07-18-19, 10:05
I decided to not report on AC because AC is kinda overdone and we know what happens in AC that being said I spent a few days there this gap in the days I had to take care of some personal business and I did have a flight booked to Cagayan de Oro booked but ended up changing these plans for a personal matter.

Day 19.

I moved to Sunny Bay Suites for the duration. These rooms have been renovated and this part of manila suffers from roach infestations. I've found that anywhere near the bay has roaches it is what it is. The room has an older style aircon but its a monster and is either too cold or not cold enough manual dial no way to set a temp. The bathroom is kind of cramped but this hotel is all about the location. You can see LA cafe if you look real hard out the window. This first night I decided to grab some "Shawarma Snack Center" before heading over to LA cafe. While at LA cafe a huge fight between the working girls was in progress. So the mood was kind of tense. I did see a fairly good looking girl eyeing me away from the chaos so I made contact and asked if she was game. We talked a bit and I learned she was an umbrella girl at a golf course and she did this one a week to pay some bills. She asked for 3 k and she was hot enough to where I just agreed. This girl was accommodating and nice but kind of all about business nothing like the GFE experience I am accustomed to. But apparently there is some fee the girls have to pay to LA cafe I don't recall how much I think its the cost of 1 lady drink I think 600 pesos? Or 700? Something in that range. LA Cafe is quite crowded and kind of hard to see the girls you kind of have to take a lap around the bar and have a look at who makes eye contact with you.

Day 20.

I decided to visit the EDSA complex and I took a grab I took a look around and there were some good looking girls in there but I wasn't real interested I think the mama said it was 3 k plus what the girl wants so I assume you wouldn't walk away from there for less than 5-6 k total. As I was waiting for the Grab home I did see some pretty attractive girls get bar fines I don't know where they were when I was in there but there are a few very good looking girls mixed in at EDSA. I decided to go back to P. Burgos st. And this time I decided I would barfine an overpriced bar girl for the hell of it. I have like some memory gaps for a reason I will explain in a second. I don't remember the exact bar but it has this weird blocked of section in the back where its blocked from view behind tinted glass. A heavy set girl decided she would preset her breasts which I reluctantly held. Smeegle from the lord of the rings showed up along with 3 other girls. They were trying to sell me on a round of 6 lady drinks and they said they would give me a blow job and whatever else in this back area. Honestly it might have been a good deal but I didn't have it in me to tell them that I didn't want smeegle any where near me. So I decided to buy one drink for the one girl I was into but they all kind of stayed and kept asking for a tip for all 6, don't be that guy just stick to your guns and pay for who you like and nothing more. I asked them if other guys pay for these rounds and they said yes. So apparently they have no shortage of suckers that come into that bar. So its about 8 pm and I decided I would bar fine this one girl she was maybe around 28 not young but nice rack and turned me on so the bar fine was 3 k short time plus a tip. This is a bit foggy so at least I think this was 3 k I paid too much and ill explain why in a second. So we walked down right across from the mexican cantina is a short time hotel which I don't remember the price of maybe 500? This whole day I only remember bits and pieces of. So we went up to the room and started talking did the pre shower I took a blue pill but I decided to chew it instead of swallow it. Everything went as planned and I had a great time. Right after I finished I went to stand up and go to the bathroom where the girl was already rinsing off and everything went black and it felt like I was in a tunnel moments later I was on my knees with a huge bruise on it and the girl screaming. Evidently a rare side effect that I have never experienced before is fainting with Viagra. This girl actually cupped my head in the bathroom and saved me from any real head trauma. So I laid down for about 15 minutes and It seemed to be fine except for the bruise on my leg. So I gave her 3 k for saving my head and took a grab back to the hotel. I was still not feeling 100% so I ordered some food with GrabFood and stayed in for the rest of the night.

Day 22.

This day I decided to take a walk down M. Adriatico St. Just to take a look. And maybe a few blocks before I got to Remedios Circle. I saw 4 girls walking around looked like a mama san and 3 girls. So I decided to be a creeper and follow them back to their lair. So they made it to Remedios Circle and this is where I approached them one of them was really hot and I asked them if they were looking for a date. The 2 less attractive girls said no but the one I wanted said yes. The mamasan said it was 2. 5 k short time too which I agreed. So we got to talking about 2 minutes later we were in a taxi to sogo. So I asked her why they were out walking around and she said they were looking for someone. Apparently some korean guy called them and they were unable to find him. So I became "Mr. Steal yo girl". Sometimes when opportunity presents itself you got to jump on it no harm in asking a question. It worked out this time I had a great time no fainting this time but sogo wanted an unusually large amount for the room 1200 pesos it was actually quite large had a jacuzzi tub in it and had a drive in garage. I gave her a 500 pesos tip on top of the 2. 5 k and took a grab to The Aristocrat Restaurant where I walked back to the hotel after grabbing some takeout to enjoy the bay air.

Day 23-28.

I called a girl from Quezon City I met on DIA over to my place and we hit it off we agreed on 2 k a day for a few days. This girl apparently had a German boyfriend for 2 years but she had gotten pregnant with some filipino classmates baby so the German guy left her. She was 22 and she said she had been alone for 2 years I don't know if I buy that part but the sex was great very GFE this girl apparently used to spend a lot of time in boracay and was a hip hop dancer. I enjoyed the sex for about a week maybe a little less I did have to pay for her transportation to and from Quezon city because she traveled back a few times to give the money to her mom but I had previously agreed to pay for any travel expenses since she didn't live near by. So she decided to accompany me to the airport the last day and I had a nice send off.

Mr Enternational
07-18-19, 11:58
Sometimes when opportunity presents itself you got to jump on it no harm in asking a question.Great fucking reports. I like your style of mongering. I like how you practice price discrimination. You realize that there is no need to give every chick 3K ST, so you pay according to the situation. Like you gave the one chick 2K per day, which is plenty enough.

Smart how you did not fall for the Burgos chick's guilt trip of asking why you were so cheap. You told her that she was not worth 3K, only 1K plus tip. That is a play out of my book. Even if she was worth it, I would make her think she was not. That is what game is.

In LA Cafe the girls are supposed to pay the bar (no idea how much) if they have not bought a drink. I guess this is when you walk out together. So what I always do is tell the girl I will meet her outside for the bar fee to be avoided. And stay away from those dick pills before you kill yourself!

Member #4794
07-18-19, 12:37
I like how you practice price discrimination. ...
... And stay away from those dick pills before you kill yourself!I would like to say I've always been good with prices but that would be a lie it took me many years to learn restraint *eh* These guys have to ask themselves if they would feel smart or cool paying $10-100 per item at the 0. 99 cent store, paying more for the same product is stupid any way you look at it. The girl I gave 2 k per day to ended up getting a little over 10 k but that is spread out over 5 days. Sometimes these girls are horrible at math so if you ask them how much money they want you can negotiate a time frame and budget that is fair for both parties, such as weekly or monthly rates usual 30-50% off, when they hear the lump sum things change. Asking if they really want to have sex with 7-30 guys unless they are a real piece of work they will usually choose to stay with the one guy.

Cheap is not a bad word to me any more gone are my days of being young and stupid and that is the reason why I need the dick pills I find that for whatever reason if I am comfortable with the girl it works normally. But if there is any rushing or extreme excitement involved it sometimes does not work as directed so a little help helps when I don't want to waste that bar fine. And I certainly can not do pop 2 or 3 without dick pills now days. That is the first time that has happened I took it on an empty stomach and I chewed it because I didn't have any water and I didn't want to drink the sink water in the short time room, I also made the mistake of standing up too soon after. I felt light headed while I was still down I should have rested for 5-10 minutes after which I do now.

Donnahito
07-18-19, 18:47
MontanaMonger,

Reading your reports really makes me appreciate the level of detail you put in and quality you give us. Now, when trying to negotiate a lump sum for a DIA girl, would you be doing this after your first time? It sounds like a bad idea to try to book a girl for a week before you even meet her. If you're trying to talk after meeting and extend your time together, I guess some potential pitfalls would be her being busy during the times you are available?

Member #4794
07-18-19, 21:15
Would you be doing this after your first time? It sounds like a bad idea to try to book a girl for a week before you even meet her.You have to ask yourself what they want from you. In most cases its going to be money. So what I do is ask how much money they want. Ask what they are after and let them create some image / dream of their optimal situation.

You want to be totally fair and up front for both parties and negotiate the larger sum only when you know you have some chemistry. This way you can talk to several girls and choose from which ever one you click with. One way you can do this is set up dates one on each day or 2 a day if you are up for it and tell them you are busy until you find the one you want and then start the negotiations with that one. So you want her to ask you this question. And this is how you answer it.

Girl: How much you give me?

Monger: How much do you want what is a crazy number? Tell me how much you really want?

Normally girls will say 7000 or 10,000 quite low for that kind of question but astronomically high for them.

What you want to do is get some dream number in her head philipinas are not really "pie in the sky" dreamers so more often than not they will throw a reasonable number at you. There are 2 ways you can make this work. If she wants 10 k you could possible get her to stay with you for 30 days for 10 k which is 333 pesos a night plus food. Or per week that 10 k would be around 1. 5 k a day plus food. I have on occasion thrown in a 1 k budget for shopping when ever we go to a mall which is probably 15-10 items during the months in addition to that 10 k so it comes out to 15-20 k a month or 500-600 pesos a day monthly. This is actually much cheaper than normal mongering. Why this works well is the girl is actively getting money and funds and she is waiting for the lump sum at the end of the trip. So you have constant positive reinforcement followed by a pay day for her. What this means for you is. IF you were to agree to 2-3 k a day for a month that's 60-90 k. Which starts to get pretty pricey. Because you are still dishing out meals and transportation and incidentals like a tooth brush and lotion and stuff she throws into your basket at the supermarket. Whatever number you arrive at 20 k 30 k do not exceed your normal daily allotment, Take into account that she might menstruate and you may or may not have sex everyday so I would say lower your normal budget by 30-50% when you are considering a total. You should count food and transport into this total however you need not let her in on this hidden total. You just need this over all total to not exceed your normal budget. If they calculate that you are not giving them the 90 k they would other wise get if they had a LT session for 30 days you can remind them of the food and transportation and other expenses involved in that and ask if she wants to split those expenses or you will find someone else to drop a brick of money onto. They fall in like pretty quickly. (One caveat is this does not work for bar girls or women who have pimps because she is not the only one who is getting enriched and the reason why i don't long term barfine and find freelancers instead for longer term dating situations. )

Never give this lump sum up front no matter what sob story they dream up that is your only leverage. You will be sure they will be on their best behavior if they are shopping and waiting on a pay day. This also does not effect other mongers as this kind of drives the prices down instead of inflating them this helps the community as a whole. This is normally how compensated dating works in countries where this is a thing. Key is just to be fair and equitable but come out on top in these negotiations. The reason this works out in your favor is because you are setting the market and they may or may not be keen enough to really understand what is going on. It is very rare that they do know what's going on because these girls are usually not very well educated. You basically are negotiating with a high school level individual not a PhD student. Hope this gives you an idea of how to proceed with your compensated dating negotiations.

Mr Enternational
07-18-19, 22:29
This is normally how compensated dating works in countries where this is a thing. Key is just to be fair and equitable but come out on top in these negotiations. The reason this works out in your favor is because you are setting the market and they may or may not be keen enough to really understand what is going on. It is very rare that they do know what's going on because these girls are usually not very well educated. You basically are negotiating with a high school level individual not a PhD student. Hope this gives you an idea of how to proceed with your compensated dating negotiations.The thing is that this kind of shit is next level for most mongers. They are sex starved back home and are just happy to be sticking their dick into a hole. That is why many of them will try to take some chick on a getaway that they have no chemistry with. I am a pretty good judge (and I can tell that you are too) of whether I should invite this chick on this getaway before even meeting her. I think your advanced methods would be over most mongers' heads though.

How many times has someone asked how much should I give a chick for taking her somewhere for a few days or a week and someone calculates the already exorbitant amount (say $100) that they are giving chicks when they bar fine them or whatever for one day and multiplies that by the number of days? I have always advocated for giving a chick in that case a reduced rate because it is guaranteed money for her and of course on a regular job she is making nowhere near what I paid her for 1 night. I will usually not take a paid chick for an extended time like that because I know so many unpaid chicks that I can wife up with. But in the extreme case that I did, then I would pay her the $30 that I usually pay chicks for one night, but every subsequent night I would only pay her $15 or something along those lines.

Years ago I met a freelance chick in Pattaya and she told me that if she had a boyfriend that would give her $300 per month then she would no longer need to freelance. That was a way more realistic number than the $1000 per month that I see some girls getting sent to them. So try asking that kind of question to the girl. How much did you make on your last job? How much would a job have to pay for you to consider it a good job? You will not get the crazy amounts like $100 per day, that is for damn sure.

That is why it helps knowing something about the cost of living of the place that you are visiting. Stop thinking about what shit would cost back home or how much you would have to pay a chick back home, and get into your head what kind of money people on normal jobs are getting paid locally. Most guys are not realizing that 30,000 pesos per month is way more than the average person would see. My ex-girlfriend works at a massage shop in Angeles and she told me she makes from 15K to 18K per month. And my chick that has a PhD and is a university dean makes about 35K. So I think most chicks would jump at the 30K plus expenses that you gave your friend.

Kabul Guy
07-18-19, 23:54
..... So I think most chicks would jump at the 30K plus expenses that you gave your friend.I am comfortable at paying my regulars more than they could make elsewhere in a straight job. Part of it is I want them to dress well, have their hair and nails done regularly to have a gym membership etc.

Part of them I want them to know that being exclusive to me, being with me and making me happy in all ways is very much in their best interests.

Member #4794
07-19-19, 20:02
The thing is that this kind of shit is next level for most mongers. They are sex starved back home and are just happy to be sticking their dick into a hole. That is why many of them will try to take some chick on a getaway that they have no chemistry with. I am a pretty good judge (and I can tell that you are too) of whether I should invite this chick on this getaway before even meeting her. I think your advanced methods would be over most mongers' heads though.A lot of these guys just read these so called tips and think they should be on guard and fearful of their safety. This is just not true you are going to a foreign land and literally having sex with their women. This is a time to dig in and open these girls up not to bunker down and yet again become the victim. Time after time you hear these guys saying how fearful you are about the girls taking advantage of them. All of these guys need to take some responsibility and run the game don't let this game run you and nothing these beta males say will ever happen to you. There is so much fear and trepidation on this board about being taken advantage or scammed that it sucks all the fun out this hobby. You are right that these guys just want sex but. Why not get exactly what you want? I think I got blasted on this forum before about telling the truth. But I'm referring to telling the truth about what you want because more often than not you will get it. When I say tell the truth I don't mean talk about yourself. I think you talking about your personal story is unnecessary. YOU are paying the girl and YOU are in control I don't tell these girls shit about myself but I grill them about their history. If you talk to these girls enough they are all neurotic insanely afraid of unknowns and of being taken advantage of. I would hope my posts would air on the side of not being afraid to get what you want and have as much sex as possible. The Philippines is like Disneyland in terms of safety compared to some of the other countries I've been to and this country is so wide open and the girls are so pliable, uneducated and naive that the whole country is ripe for the pickings.

PedroMorales
07-19-19, 22:30
. A. If you talk to these girls enough they are all neurotic insanely afraid of unknowns and of being taken advantage of.
B. The Philippines is like Disneyland in terms of safety compared to some of the other countries I've been to and this country is so wide open and the girls are so pliable, uneducated and naive that the whole country is ripe for the pickings.Please explain A and B.

A. You don't seem the type of guy who gets into long conversations with the hookers. As you can bargain and as they do not have much bargaining power, they probably feel you are f-g them over. When I ask them a price, I walk away if itr is even slightly too high. No more negotiation with her as she is most likely trouble. What unknowns are they afraid of besides alphas kicking them about?

B. What are those other countries. Surely there are plenty of women in the Phils if you tried plucking them someone would put a bullet in your skull?

My take is I can only bonk (not) so many and I have given up on Vitamin V. I negotiate, I keep a low profile and it works.

Member #4794
07-20-19, 10:50
A. You don't seem the type of guy who gets into long conversations with the hookers. As you can bargain and as they do not have much bargaining power, they probably feel you are f-g them over. When I ask them a price, I walk away if itr is even slightly too high. No more negotiation with her as she is most likely trouble. What unknowns are they afraid of besides alphas kicking them about?

B. What are those other countries. Surely there are plenty of women in the Phils if you tried plucA lot of these Philippines are extremely neurotic and unstable, Fears of men not giving them the full amount of money agreed upon. Afraid of being left somewhere without a way to get back home if they meet you away from their home they are afraid that you will abandon them. Afraid that you will not like them due to their inaccurate body image, notably the pubic areas and maybe some scars they have from a child birth or a car accident or maybe a scar left over from a Staph infection, they sometimes are insecure about how their pussy looks or smells, this annoys the fuck out of me. Afraid of you learning the truth about their past. There are about 50 other things these girls are thinking about the moment you meet them. And I do feel that this is exacerbated by the fact they can speak English.

Laos and China have their weird cohabitation laws that are rarely enforced but can be in the Philippines this is not a concern. When I am in Myanmar, Laos, China, Indonesia, Its all about fucking for me and much less GFE and I am clueless to their neurosis as they do not have the ability to convey it which might be the reason why philippinas enjoy Koreans because the interaction is not as personal and the questions asked are not as deep. But this can also be seen as an advantage in terms of bargaining and manipulation for the punter so that's why I say this is like Disneyland because negotiations are wide open if you take advantage of it and assuage their necrotic tendency. Vetting these women goes a long way to NOT getting a bullet in your head. Vetting women is much harder in non English speaking countries. I will sometimes take trips to their homes and talk to their family. Their family does not always have their best interests in mind so they will oftentimes tell you information the women would like to keep secret. There are so many to choose from in phils even if they are hot and if they have some questionable issues I just limit those interactions to a one night stand. Almost all bar girls have a storied and troubled life and that is the reason why I almost ever multi day bar fine a bar girl (don't get me wrong I will still have sex with them, I still bar fine bar girls short time but I just don't give them the opportunity to screw me over). I'm serious about this shit when other punters are sleeping or drinking beers I am lining up more pussy. I am not looking at the guys in the bars like some of guys are I am not hanging out with expats. I am actively looking for pussy when in country nonstop.

A lot of what I say is only for longer term barfines or compensated dating arrangements, I sometimes do a short time in the day time if I can find a reliable location and work on these longer term pay offs during the evening on dates or vise versa. I do get my dick wet regardless.

One thing that I do often is I use the girls I meet online as a gateway and sometimes the girl I talk to online is not the girl I end up with for the reason that the vetting process of the girl who was online fell through but I am able to vet her friend. Which is also harder to do with a language barrier. Its far safer to choose the girl who likes you than to force one that doesn't to be with you. This is how I meet women who are not normally on the market without being shot. But you cannot meet these women unless you go out and actively seek them out. But then again that might be the difference between an experienced monger and a novice one.

Sidtip
07-21-19, 06:23
A lot of these Philippines are extremely neurotic and unstable, Fears of men not giving them the full amount of money agreed upon. Afraid of being left somewhere without a way to get back home if they meet you away from their home they are afraid that you will abandon them. e.I have never experienced this. The girls are usually very confident. Sometimes shy if they are a bit new. Try to make them feel at ease by talking in a nice way and you will soon calm any nerves. A relaxed girl will always be more fun. Talking about yourself instead of them can calm them. Let me know how this goes.


Laos and China have their weird cohabitation laws that are rarely enforced but can be in the Philippines this is not a concern. When I am in Myanmar, Laos, China, Indonesia,

Vetting these women goes a long way to NOT getting a bullet in your head..I think you will find that the Philippines has some very strict laws about having sex with a married woman, but its not normally a problem. If your level of paranoia or concern is high then ask the girl if she is legally married. If you are really worried, record her reply on your phone. I have never seen anyone mention this before but if you are worried then we should be supportive of your feelings. Also don't worry too much about getting bullets in your head. You might have seen stuff like this in the movies but it doesn't usually happen in Makati haha.


I will sometimes take trips to their homes and talk to their family. p.
This is the best way to discover a country. Some of my best experiences have been travelling to their home towns. In Vietnam the dad cut a jackfruit from the tree and we all sat on the ground eating it, sister plucked fresh lemongrass and stuff from the garden and cooked right there on the concrete, in Cambodia I stayed in the provincial police compound (girl's family lived in the compound because one was police) and watched as they dragged a dude in and listened as he was tasered in the room as they either tried to get him to say sorry / confess or punish him, in the Philippines I stayed in the single room house with 3 mattresses on the floor and 7 people sleeping on them.


I'm serious about this shit when other punters are sleeping or drinking beers I am lining up more pussy. I am not looking at the guys in the bars like some of guys are I am not hanging out with expats. I am actively looking for pussy when in country nonstop.It is great that you are serious. But try to look around. It makes it all a lot more fun. Watch the interactions. Look for the secret hand signals that the girls use, look at how they react to customers, look at how the punters act towards the girls, sit in a bar and watch people walk by and see the man in the wheelchair collecting donations and then the girl come up and take the money from him and hand it to the dude up the end of the street. And then see who else this group interacts with. Is it the two school age girls on the bike that ride up and down all day. It's fascinating. I visit these places just for punting but looking around an immersing yourself in a country is also part of the experience that more experienced punters have come to know and love. Getting to know some of these people will also help you build connections within the street. Say Hi to the pan handler, the cadger, the scroungers and mooches. They are all part of the tapestry that makes these places so interesting.


One thing that I do often is I use the girls I meet online as a gateway and sometimes the girl I talk to online is not the girl I end up with for the reason that the vetting process of the girl who was online fell throughI am not sure how new to mongering you are. But if you are chatting online to someone and it is not working out, you can ask them if any of their friends are your type. This way you can sometimes get a girl who is thinking about doing it for money but who hasn't done it yet. I love the shy ones, the ones who have never put a cock in their mouths before. They often gag the first time because just the thought of it makes them feel ill. But they put it in slowly and experiment with their tongues and don't know how to speed it up with their hands so its just this warn wet soft feeling as she slides you in and out of her virgin mouth.

ForkTruck
07-21-19, 11:08
I am different than most guys on ISG in that I look for girls ages 27 to 38. I don't care if they have a kid or two but not 3 or more. Also youngest kid must be older than breast feeder. Incidentally the one 9, 27 yo I had last week had the worst stretch marks I have yet seen and she was very embarrassed by them and wanted the lights down and wore a short belly corset to cover them, fucked her anyway. All of my pulls are from dating sites. I am far north of 60 yo so I prefer the older girls. The young ones are often arrogant, conceited, in this for the money, etc. And are seldom GFE with an old guy which I want. I have viewed hundreds of profiles and have gotten pretty good at picking out the ones that are perfect for me. They are not for everyone but for me it's OK if they are a 6 or 7 just don't want chubby / fat. I have noticed there are ways from their pics to know the ones who are good to go. Subtle hand signals (very clever) , cleavage shows, scenes on a bed, pics In a mongers hotel room, and some others. My batting average is almost at 1000% now after working it for so long. They never ask me for money although when I offer taxi fare they accept and I always throw another amount to them. The profile verbiage they write is not important. The ages they suggest can be ignored. Lastly I have noticed in the verbiage they write the term "generous guy wanted" which used to show up a lot is now gone. That was always a sign of a girl ready to ride the train. Because the term is virtually gone across the Philippines it seems the girls have some kind of telegraph working. At my age The Philippines is amazing, just hope I can keep it up another couple of years. Pun intended. Well, in an hour I have one coming that I will install at my feet as I sit in my chair on internet and she will suck my dick forever if I want then I will pound her pussy and send her home. I hope I have some juice left after last nites CIM girl. Getting old is a *****.

LiveFree25
07-22-19, 07:09
Hello,

I'm enjoying reading and learning about the diff areas of pleasure available in the Philippines. I am flying in in October on a one day layover. I would appreciate some advice from some of you experienced mongers. Since I come into to Ninoy airport in mid afternoon on Sunday and leave Monday around 11 am, should I stay closer to the airport and hit Edsa area or is Makati a reasonable trek to the airport?

Also wondering what the talent level in Edsa vs Burgos is? I read that Cotton Club closed for renovation. Is it still closed? Is Edsa still a viable place to find talent on a Sunday night or is there a better venue? Thanks in advance! I'll be sure to post my experience after my trip!

Dg8787
07-23-19, 00:40
The other night via ANA, NRT to MNL, I arrived at 8:45 pm T3.

Off the plane at 9:00 pm.

Thru immigration 9:10 pm.

Picked up bags 9:14 pm.

At Genesis bus bay 14 9:16 pm.

Bus left for AC 9:30 pm.

Bus pulls up to SM City Clark 11:30 pm.

Grab car arrives 11:38 pm.

One of my all time favorites in hotel at 12:15 am.

Love AC.

Engine Driver
07-23-19, 03:10
The other night via ANA, NRT to MNL, I arrived at 8:45 pm T3.

Off the plane at 9:00 pm.

Thru immigration 9:10 pm.

Picked up bags 9:14 pm.

At Genesis bus bay 14 9:16 pm.

Bus left for AC 9:30 pm.

Bus pulls up to SM City Clark 11:30 pm.

Grab car arrives 11:38 pm.

One of my all time favorites in hotel at 12:15 am.

Love AC. Nicely done

Engine Driver
07-23-19, 03:12
Hello,

I'm enjoying reading and learning about the diff areas of pleasure available in the Philippines. I am flying in in October on a one day layover. I would appreciate some advice from some of you experienced mongers. Since I come into to Ninoy airport in mid afternoon on Sunday and leave Monday around 11 am, should I stay closer to the airport and hit Edsa area or is Makati a reasonable trek to the airport?

Also wondering what the talent level in Edsa vs Burgos is? I read that Cotton Club closed for renovation. Is it still closed? Is Edsa still a viable place to find talent on a Sunday night or is there a better venue? Thanks in advance! I'll be sure to post my experience after my trip!Head out to Makati. Book a hotel near Burgos Street. Go to a Burgos Street bar and barfine a day shift girl. She will stay with you for 12 hours. When she leaves the next day at 6. 00 am, check out and head to the airport. Mission accomplished.

Don't try to do too much. It will end up in a complicated mess. Keep it nice and simple. Don't think you are going to miss out on anything.

Dg8787
07-23-19, 03:14
Nicely doneStill doing her at the moment 10:15am. Thanks.

LiveFree25
07-23-19, 04:32
Head out to Makati. Book a hotel near Burgos Street. Go to a Burgos Street bar and barfine a day shift girl. She will stay with you for 12 hours. When she leaves the next day at 6. 00 am, check out and head to the airport. Mission accomplished.

Don't try to do too much. It will end up in a complicated mess. Keep it nice and simple. Don't think you are going to miss out on anything.Thanks for the advice. That may end up as my plan. Kind of stressed since don't have much time to play but don't want to waste the opportunity either.

AsiaFever
07-31-19, 16:38
Heading to Manila In a week, started moving my tinder to that City to start making matches. This will be my first visit to this country.

How prevalent are the lady boys? There is a heap on tinder and is it easy to spot / identify them at the bars? Don't want you take one home.

GDreams
08-01-19, 01:02
Heading to Manila In a week, started moving my tinder to that City to start making matches. This will be my first visit to this country.

How prevalent are the lady boys? There is a heap on tinder and is it easy to spot / identify them at the bars? Don't want you take one home.There are many LBs on Tinder. Always ask. One thing you should realize is traffic in Manila is really bad and for much of the day you could literally walk 5 km in the time it takes you in a taxi. I would suggest looking at PL and Date in Asia as sources as well.

Goferring
08-01-19, 05:29
There are many LBs on Tinder. Always ask. True but the ones on Tinder will generally have it in their profile or at least tell you when asked. Those on many of the other Apps will flat out lie to you.

Be careful out there. G.

Pinaypounder
08-05-19, 22:05
Heading to Manila In a week, started moving my tinder to that City to start making matches. This will be my first visit to this country.

How prevalent are the lady boys? There is a heap on tinder and is it easy to spot / identify them at the bars? Don't want you take one home.They don't want conflict and are proud of being Trans so I have never seen one lie, I have some as friends. If you get tricked let them blow you they are 2 x better than women!

Pinaypounder
08-05-19, 23:33
[MontanaMonger,

I would never want to visit their homes unless I was actually serious about them. Are you not ashamed to let it be known you are banging their daughter with no real intent? I would be rather embarrassed. I am curious why you are not?

PP.

Sidtip
08-06-19, 06:12
If you get tricked let them blow you they are 2 x better than women!Totally disagree. Kick them out an raise your voice if they refuse to go and try to bully you into handing over some money. Supporting their little scam just encourages them. They are often not very nice people. Even the girl on the street are often wary of them. They get into fight, bully and steal. They, these are generalizations but they are not the same as girls.

Turgid
08-06-19, 16:57
They don't want conflict and are proud of being Trans so I have never seen one lie, I have some as friends. If you get tricked let them blow you they are 2 x better than women!You have no problem being blown by a man?

Kabul Guy
08-09-19, 23:31
I am different than most guys on ISG in that I look for girls ages 27 to 38......Getting old is a *****.Except for accepting kids, I could have written that post. While the occasional 18 or 19 year old is kind of fun, but for more than a simple fuck and suck, I like older women between 25 and 40 or so. They are more mature, know what they want and what they have to give to get it.

I find a high negative correlation between age and frequency of no shows. (younger tend to flake out more often than older women for those not familiar with statistical talk.).

Cons68
08-10-19, 11:52
You have no problem being blown by a man?You have a problem with him having / not having a problem?

NewImage
08-10-19, 13:11
You have a problem with him having / not having a problem?Something to ponder. How guys crave anal sex with a girl but OMG do it with a ladyboy and it becomes a disgusting abhorrent act.

If the end goal is the achievement of an orgasm and having a fun time, and we are not talking about sex for procreation reasons, let him have his enjoyment.

Because I masturbate, and most do, does that mean you are a lonely, degenerate wanker. I think not.

For the record I play on both sides of the street and am fully comfortable doing so.

NI.

WestCoast1
08-10-19, 17:14
Something to ponder. How guys crave anal sex with a girl but OMG do it with a ladyboy and it becomes a disgusting abhorrent act.

If the end goal is the achievement of an orgasm and having a fun time, and we are not talking about sex for procreation reasons, let him have his enjoyment.

Because I masturbate, and most do, does that mean you are a lonely, degenerate wanker. I think not.

For the record I play on both sides of the street and am fully comfortable doing so.

NI.Bold. And no question from NI. #yougoboi.

Turgid
08-10-19, 20:34
You have a problem with him having / not having a problem?The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem.

Chocha Monger
08-10-19, 22:41
The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem.The problem is that the trannies misrepresent themselves as women and insist on payment for misleading men who are not interested in having sex with men. Think of it as a consumer opening a package to find a product that looks very different to the one promised in the advertising and the photos on the packaging. When he complains, the vendor insists that he should use the product because it is just as good or event better than what he wanted to purchase. The vendor goes a step further and insists that the consumer pay for the product, which he never wanted, in order to rid himself of it. Perhaps, the vendor becomes very cheeky and threatens to cause trouble if the consumer does not comply with his demands.

That is the problem. Of course, mongers who want and intend to fuck trannies have no problem when they find that one weaseled his way into their hotel room for a night of anal action. They can always flip a coin for top or bottom.

Mr Enternational
08-10-19, 23:21
Today makes 2 months that me and my girlfriend have been together. We still haven't done the nasty, but she said that tonight she will give me a surprise. Any advice?

Member #4643
08-10-19, 23:23
Today makes 2 months that me and my girlfriend have been together. We still haven't done the nasty, but she said that tonight she will give me a surprise. Any advice?Be certain to use a condom.

NewImage
08-10-19, 23:42
Today makes 2 months that me and my girlfriend have been together. We still haven't done the nasty, but she said that tonight she will give me a surprise. Any advice?But, Strongly doubt whether 2 months have gone past without deeds being done, be it top or bottom. A Lb who doesn't want to fuck is like a man who doesn't want to fuck. Did I just say the same thing? LOL.

NI.

Member #4698
08-10-19, 23:44
Today makes 2 months that me and my girlfriend have been together. We still haven't done the nasty, but she said that tonight she will give me a surprise. Any advice?What a lucky guy! 555.

Chocha Monger
08-11-19, 17:58
Today makes 2 months that me and my girlfriend have been together. We still haven't done the nasty, but she said that tonight she will give me a surprise. Any advice?Bring a box of Trojan Magnums for her and a jumbo tube of lube, for you!

Turgid
08-13-19, 18:11
Bring a box of Trojan Magnums for her and a jumbo tube of lube, for you!LOL, and some viagra for her as well.

NewImage
08-14-19, 07:36
Bring a box of Trojan Magnums for her and a jumbo tube of lube, for you!Mega sore ass.

LOL.

Dg8787
08-14-19, 13:56
I was having dinner inside S and are Membership when one of the travel service girl was walking around holding a sign "Special rates round trip to Hong Kong"! Maybe S and are has a special Terminal in HK. LOL.

Cons68
08-14-19, 14:47
The problem is not that there are problems. The problem is expecting otherwise and thinking that having problems is a problem.And that is up to him.

Cons68
08-14-19, 14:49
A goat, a donkey and two trannies, my dream Holliday!
And you do not need to care about unwanted pregnancies !


PS After years making the joke some bastard use (but the donkey) on Archer, an adult cartoon.


Something to ponder. How guys crave anal sex with a girl but OMG do it with a ladyboy and it becomes a disgusting abhorrent act.

If the end goal is the achievement of an orgasm and having a fun time, and we are not talking about sex for procreation reasons, let him have his enjoyment.

Because I masturbate, and most do, does that mean you are a lonely, degenerate wanker. I think not.

For the record I play on both sides of the street and am fully comfortable doing so.

NI.

Sammon
08-14-19, 20:54
Today makes 2 months that me and my girlfriend have been together. We still haven't done the nasty, but she said that tonight she will give me a surprise. Any advice?Maybe she has a taped dick under her skirt LOL.

Engine Driver
08-19-19, 11:46
Just planning my next trip and I will have 12 hours to kill in Manila before heading home. I was thinking of getting a cheap hotel near the airport to dump my bags and then going to Flight 168 massage parlour.

Could someone please advise me if they provide just a massage and HJ here or is this a full service joint? In any case, is it a worthwhile experience?

Thanks.

PilotPaul
08-20-19, 11:15
Just planning my next trip and I will have 12 hours to kill in Manila before heading home. I was thinking of getting a cheap hotel near the airport to dump my bags and then going to Flight 168 massage parlour.

Could someone please advise me if they provide just a massage and HJ here or is this a full service joint? In any case, is it a worthwhile experience?

Thanks.I have stayed at Oyster Hotel, Paranaque. Then work from there. Gives a cheap low cost base. This hotel is best suited for T1 or T2.

HTownHunter
08-20-19, 11:31
Just planning my next trip and I will have 12 hours to kill in Manila before heading home. I was thinking of getting a cheap hotel near the airport to dump my bags and then going to Flight 168 massage parlour.

Could someone please advise me if they provide just a massage and HJ here or is this a full service joint? In any case, is it a worthwhile experience?

Thanks.Rather than write one, read this. It may be a little dated but the facts are still the same.

http://rockitreports.com/review-air-force-one-flight-168-manila-philippines/

Onojdi
08-20-19, 18:46
I have the chance to visit Manila and Cebu during the 20 December - 05 January but I'm worried that.

1. the girls may leave the big city to be with the family during Christmas and New Year.

2. There will be too many tourist during that period.

3. The price for airplane tickets and hotels will be very high because of the high season.

Manila experts, can you share your opinion? There is an option to delay the trip with 1-2 months but honestly can't wait. But if it will be a tourist madness, high prices and low numbers of working girls. Doesn't sounds good idea. Advice?

Goferring
08-20-19, 20:09
I have the chance to visit Manila and Cebu during the 20 December - 05 January but I'm worried that.

1. the girls may leave the big city to be with the family during Christmas and New Year.Correct. There will only be 8 million left to choose from. The very best will have the cash to make the trip home but those that only go home once a year will likely choose Holy Week / Easter. There will still be many available.



2. There will be too many tourist during that period.Not too many to notice in MNL and CEB. The tourist resorts and islands will be busy.



3. The price for airplane tickets and hotels will be very high because of the high season.

Manila experts, can you share your opinion? There is an option to delay the trip with 1-2 months but honestly can't wait. But if it will be a tourist madness, high prices and low numbers of working girls. Doesn't sounds good idea. Advice?All the hotels and airlines are online so you can check the prices for the dates that suit you. You may not get lowest cost flights etc during the period but substantial savings can be made to airfares by booking ahead or being flexible on the day of the week that you travel. I've found hotels the opposite. If you are flexible on which hotel, there can be substantial savings as hotels try to fill rooms a day or two out. Of course you run the risk of your first choice being full so have a few options.

Where do you want to fly to? Keep in mind that the week between Christmas and NY is notorious for typhoons etc ravaging the Visayas. I've stopped travelling to PI during this period simply because I spend a lot of time out on the islands and have been caught out numerous times by various acts of God.

If you need to go during that week and intend to visit only Manila and Cebu then you will be fine and have a great time.

If you want to fly in, visit the beaches and islands and have a fixed destination and time schedule then I'd stay away from the week you mentioned.

Enjoy. G.

StarterBlaster
08-20-19, 20:24
Hi guys,

I'm planning to travel to The Philippines around the December end. Since it's a holiday season where can I find the most activity?

I have 2 days in Manila 2 days in Boracay and 2 days in Cebu.

Does Pinalove help in scoring?

Regards,

SB.

Member #4698
08-20-19, 21:50
Just planning my next trip and I will have 12 hours to kill in Manila before heading home. I was thinking of getting a cheap hotel near the airport to dump my bags and then going to Flight 168 massage parlour.

Could someone please advise me if they provide just a massage and HJ here or is this a full service joint? In any case, is it a worthwhile experience?

Thanks.Flight 168 is definitely a full service bordello. The setup is very similar to a high end BKK Soapie. Basically, they offer customers a couple of different fishbowls each composed of different quality or different rated girls and Flight 168 prices their girls accordingly.

Customers also have a choice in the quality of room where they take the girl. I forget the names, but it's something like 1st class, executive class, and coach class. The 1st class rooms all have jacuzzi tubs. When I was last there the VIP class girls where located on the ground floor fishbowl, one floor beneath Airforce 1 and next to Flight 168's lounge area. 168's regular girls where somewhere else. All customers must enter the building and walk through the lobby of Airforce 1 in order to proceed to Flight 168. There will be a friendly host in the AF1 lobby to greet you and show you where you want to go.

I recommend that you take a look at the 1st class girl's fishbowl. It is not like they are all hot, but usually there are 2 or 3 girls that shine above the rest and more than meet my spec. And shagging a good-looking girl is the whole point of visiting a place like this if you ask me. The best time to come is around 7 pm to have the opportunity to select from widest assortment the prime-time girls. There used to be an early bird 1/2 price discount if you come before 5 pm. I don't know if that is still in effect. I think it might be.

Service in the 1st class rooms includes soapy jacuzzi time, BBBJ's, and covered sex on the bed. DFK, DATY & 69 depend on the girl and the vibe you establish with her. Service in the cheaper room is the same as in the more expensive room except that there will not be any jacuzzi fun time and the beds are smaller. I have had great sessions and just ok sessions in Flight 168, so no guarantees, but I never had a bad session. Thus I give the place a thumbs up and recommend it to you. I will add, however, that the hottest girls are in AF 1 not Flight 168. Ha Ha. But AF 1 does not get started until late and you better be prepared to spend well over 12,000 p if you want to shag an AF 1 girl.

The total cost (girl and room) in Flight 168 is between 5,000 p and 7,500 p. The bill is prepaid like at a BKK Soapy. But like I said, at Flight 168 the bill is broken down into its two component parts so you are charged for the room whichever room you select and charged for the girl whichever category girl you select. Credit cards are accepted. Tips to a girl for good service are voluntary, of course, but greatly appreciated.

Flight 168 also has a lounge area so you can relax before, after, or in between a session. They serve a buffet at certain times and a la carte food items at other times although it is not cheap. Any type liquor is obviously available. In any case, it would be very easy to spend 4 or 5 hours or longer in this bordello and shag a couple of girls while waiting for a flight. Depending on your flight times, I imagine an outside hotel might not be needed.

Have a great time!

Engine Driver
08-20-19, 23:19
Flight 168 is definitely a full service bordello. The setup is very similar to a high end BKK Soapie. Basically, they offer customers a couple of different fishbowls each composed of different quality or different rated girls and Flight 168 prices their girls accordingly.

Customers also have a choice in the quality of room where they take the girl. I forget the names, but it's something like 1st class, executive class, and coach class. The 1st class rooms all have jacuzzi tubs. When I was last there the VIP class girls where located on the ground floor fishbowl, one floor beneath Airforce 1 and next to Flight 168's lounge area. 168's regular girls where somewhere else. All customers must enter the building and walk through the lobby of Airforce 1 in order to proceed to Flight 168. There will be a friendly host in the AF1 lobby to greet you and show you where you want to go.

I recommend that you take a look at the 1st class girl's fishbowl. It is not like they are all hot, but usually there are 2 or 3 girls that shine above the rest and more than meet my spec. And shagging a good-looking girl is the whole point of visiting a place like this if you ask me. The best time to come is around 7 pm to have the opportunity to select from widest assortment the prime-time girls. There used to be an early bird 1/2 price discount if you come before 5 pm. I don't know if that is still in effect. I think it might be.

Service in the 1st class rooms includes soapy jacuzzi time, BBBJ's, and covered sex on the bed. DFK, DATY & 69 depend on the girl and the vibe you establish with her. Service in the cheaper room is the same as in the more expensive room except that there will not be any jacuzzi fun time and the beds are smaller. I have had great sessions and just ok sessions in Flight 168, so no guarantees, but I never had a bad session. Thus I give the place a thumbs up and recommend it to you. I will add, however, that the hottest girls are in AF 1 not Flight 168. Ha Ha. But AF 1 does not get started until late and you better be prepared to spend well over 12,000 p if you want to shag an AF 1 girl.

The total cost (girl and room) in Flight 168 is between 5,000 p and 7,500 p. The bill is prepaid like at a BKK Soapy. But like I said, at Flight 168 the bill is broken down into its two component parts so you are charged for the room whichever room you select and charged for the girl whichever category girl you select. Credit cards are accepted. Tips to a girl for good service are voluntary, of course, but greatly appreciated.

Flight 168 also has a lounge area so you can relax before, after, or in between a session. They serve a buffet at certain times and a la carte food items at other times although it is not cheap. Any type liquor is obviously available. In any case, it would be very easy to spend 4 or 5 hours or longer in this bordello and shag a couple of girls while waiting for a flight. Depending on your flight times, I imagine an outside hotel might not be needed.

Have a great time!Thanks Natty. Much appreciated. Your detailed information is brilliant. The reason for the hotel was just to secure my valuables and electronics. I didn't want to cart too much gear into a bordello. LOL.

Engine Driver
08-20-19, 23:31
Rather than write one, read this. It may be a little dated but the facts are still the same.

http://rockitreports.com/review-air-force-one-flight-168-manila-philippines/Thanks HTH. I will send in a field report after I go.

Engine Driver
08-21-19, 00:34
Hi guys,

I'm planning to travel to The Philippines around the December end. Since it's a holiday season where can I find the most activity?

I have 2 days in Manila 2 days in Boracay and 2 days in Cebu.

Does Pinalove help in scoring?

Regards,

SB.I'm not an expert in online scamming, oops I mean dating, but for such a short trip you should be able to find more than enough hookers using the free service on WeChat and Tinder. I'm assuming you don't actually want the romancing, wining and dining with your instant girlfriend who is looking for her "one and only".

I've played around with PL, but the fuck around factor before finding a hooker is high. You need to filter your way through 100's of candidates and then there's a high probability she will flake out. Wechat and Tinder are proximity based apps and you know who is around nearby, right now to come and fuck. Pinays are the most unreliable bunch of people on earth and can't be trusted to post a letter.

Goferring
08-21-19, 01:00
Hi guys,

I'm planning to travel to The Philippines around the December end. Since it's a holiday season where can I find the most activity?

I have 2 days in Manila 2 days in Boracay and 2 days in Cebu.

Does Pinalove help in scoring?

Regards,

SB.In Cebu and Manila you will find chicks available everywhere with little effort. For a 2 day stay only, you really want point and shoot so ED is right: the location based apps are better. No dating app chick is going to prioritize an unknown guy here for such a short stay so the no show likelihood is high if a known guy or better offer appears. Of course, if you want to see what you are getting first, just go to Burgos in Manila or a FL nightclub in Cebu.

I've never been to Boracay but I hear there are limited options there. Perhaps arrive with your best find from mnl or cebu?

Enjoy. G.

Sammon
08-21-19, 01:27
Hi guys,

I'm planning to travel to The Philippines around the December end. Since it's a holiday season where can I find the most activity?

I have 2 days in Manila 2 days in Boracay and 2 days in Cebu.

Does Pinalove help in scoring?

Regards,

SB.Most girls on dating sites will be busy during holidays unless you are hosting dinner for the whole family. Some bars do close. My pretty friend even gave an excuse during Election Day saying she is canvassing and cannot be with me in Cebu. However waterfront casino is open and there are always girls there.

In Manila LA cafe should be open. Perfect time to go to Boracay because it will be less crowded. Better take a girl with you.

Key Master
08-21-19, 11:52
I have the chance to visit Manila and Cebu during the 20 December - 05 January but I'm worried that.

1. the girls may leave the big city to be with the family during Christmas and New Year.

2. There will be too many tourist during that period.

3. The price for airplane tickets and hotels will be very high because of the high season.

Manila experts, can you share your opinion? There is an option to delay the trip with 1-2 months but honestly can't wait. But if it will be a tourist madness, high prices and low numbers of working girls. Doesn't sounds good idea. Advice?I would probably pass on the trip if I had the option to wait 1-2 months. You never know, but Christmas and a family is a big thing for them. I would think that the better talent is probably going to be able to afford to go back to the province to celebrate. If you are not worried about talent quality, then there's always someone available.

StarterBlaster
08-21-19, 20:12
Thank you brothers for the insights & bringing me up to speed.

Regards,

SB.

TaipeiRoc2011
08-22-19, 15:26
Great report!

Would you know if transportation to airport (taxi or uber) can be easily arranged from that place?

Thanks.


Flight 168 is definitely a full service bordello. The setup is very similar to a high end BKK Soapie. Basically, they offer customers a couple of different fishbowls each composed of different quality or different rated girls and Flight 168 prices their girls accordingly.

Customers also have a choice in the quality of room where they take the girl. I forget the names, but it's something like 1st class, executive class, and coach class. The 1st class rooms all have jacuzzi tubs. When I was last there the VIP class girls where located on the ground floor fishbowl, one floor beneath Airforce 1 and next to Flight 168's lounge area. 168's regular girls where somewhere else. All customers must enter the building and walk through the lobby of Airforce 1 in order to proceed to Flight 168. There will be a friendly host in the AF1 lobby to greet you and show you where you want to go.

I recommend that you take a look at the 1st class girl's fishbowl. It is not like they are all hot, but usually there are 2 or 3 girls that shine above the rest and more than meet my spec. And shagging a good-looking girl is the whole point of visiting a place like this if you ask me. The best time to come is around 7 pm to have the opportunity to select from widest assortment the prime-time girls. There used to be an early bird 1/2 price discount if you come before 5 pm. I don't know if that is still in effect. I think it might be.

Member #4698
08-22-19, 20:29
Great report!

Would you know if transportation to airport (taxi or uber) can be easily arranged from that place?

Thanks.Not a problem. AF 1 is on a busy road. The ride to Terminal 1 should not be more than 10 to 15 minutes under normal circumstances, but you should allow for more time just to be on the safe side.

WestCoast1
08-22-19, 22:09
Would you know if transportation to airport (taxi or uber) can be easily arranged from that place?Taxis are readily available, cost will be about p150 ($3 USD), depending the level of traffic. Grab is the app in Phils, not Uber. Download it and set it up with an account before you go. A Grab car will run about p50 more than a taxi.

PilotPaul
08-23-19, 00:28
Taxis are readily available, cost will be about p150 ($3 USD), depending the level of traffic. Grab is the app in Phils, not Uber. Download it and set it up with an account before you go. A Grab car will run about p50 more than a taxi.Annoying Grab will not always alow you to establish an account before you arrive in country. Last time I checked if you install the Grab App in Australia it is Geo locked and says it doesn't work. Once on the ground with a PH sim then it is good to go.

Certainly have it downloaded to your phone which will save time at airport.

Tachibana
09-03-19, 16:15
First post!

Phew, just spent the last few days reading back 80 pages which dates back about a year. Some good information in there, but also about 20% dedicated to SIM card talk.

Anyways just thought I would contribute a little report on my trip last month. Stayed at Red planet in Malate for 2 nights, great location, hotel nice and clean. About 2000 PHP / night.

1st night:

Trip was with a Japanese coworker (I am working in a Japanese multinational), and we spent some time in Pattaya and Bangkok before arriving in Manila. After showering headed to Robinson's mall for some food where we were approached pretty quickly by a momma-san who asked if we were interested in a girl she pointed out in the distance. We were totally not ready for action yet (most of our nights started around 2 am in Thailand, and it was about 6 pm now). But, the girl was cute! Thin, short, with a big ass, really long luscious black hair down to her ass, and she looked barely legal (later confirmed 26). My type. A little cold, or nervous, but no problem. Upon asking the price, Momma was about to say 3 but then stuttered and said 2500 for 3 hours. After dealing with Bangkok prices me and my buddy looked at each other almost in disbelief. The cheap side in me wanted to negotiate but I find sometimes that kills momentum and the price was right for us anyways.

I took her, and Momma-san brought a couple girls around for my picky friend, who settled on a girl with those fashionable big glasses, big ass and braces. Her best point was how down to earth and friendly she was. Both girls were seriously cute, and at least did not come off as seasoned mercenaries. As we were leaving with them and walking away, we saw momma following us. She tried to ask for her cut (500) up front. We told her no, that we would give 2500 to the girls and that she could get it from them later. Momma protested. We held firm. We won.

The night was still young so we asked the girls if they wanted to get a drink and if they knew somewhere good. They were shy but agreed, and said there was a bar nearby but that it was "cheap" and seemed embarrassed about it. Cute.

Bar was certainly cheap, drank a lot, had a blast. Some of their mall friends came by. Good chemistry, conversation and laughs. Lack of language barrier is a big plus. Went to a nightclub for a bit before heading back to the hotel (by this time it was past midnight).

We hop into the shower, she's adamant about turning lights off so that its pitch black. Whatever. Take shower, asks if I have condom, I say I do. VERY passionate DFK, deep throat. Asks me to bang her in the shower, I say condoms are in the room. She says no condom needed. I say yes condom needed, let's go to the bed. Start banging on the bed, passionate and aggressive. Go through the various positions. Enjoying myself. Suddenly, overwhelming smell of blood. I turn on the lights, it's a war zone with blood all over the sheets. Girl has the look of a toddler who got caught out doing something bad. Couldn't get mad at her and just told her to help me wash the sheets.

After that I was finished with the situation and sent her on her way with 2500. It was about 3 am by this time. On one hand I wanted to fault her for working while on the rag (or at least mentioning it prior) but it it what it is. Actually she was so cute that now I regret not getting her contact. She definitely owes me one.

What's your guys' take on this one?

Report for night #2 at LA Cafe coming up.

Dg8787
09-03-19, 19:52
First post!

Phew, just spent the last few days reading back 80 pages which dates back about a year. Some good information in there, but also about 20% dedicated to SIM card talk.

Anyways just thought I would contribute a little report on my trip last month. Stayed at Red planet in Malate for 2 nights, great location, hotel nice and clean. About 2000 PHP / night.

1st night:

Trip was with a Japanese coworker (I am working in a Japanese multinational), and we spent some time in Pattaya and Bangkok before arriving in Manila. After showering headed to Robinson's mall for some food where we were approached pretty quickly by a momma-san who asked if we were interested in a girl she pointed out in the distance. We were totally not ready for action yet (most of our nights started around 2 am in Thailand, and it was about 6 pm now). But, the girl was cute! Thin, short, with a big ass, really long luscious black hair down to her ass, and she looked barely legal (later confirmed 26). My type. A little cold, or nervous, but no problem. Upon asking the price, Momma was about to say 3 but then stuttered and said 2500 for 3 hours. After dealing with Bangkok prices me and my buddy looked at each other almost in disbelief. The cheap side in me wanted to negotiate but I find sometimes that kills momentum and the price was right for us anyways.

I took her, and Momma-san brought a couple girls around for my picky friend, who settled on a girl with those fashionable big glasses, big ass and braces. Her best point was how down to earth and friendly she was. Both girls were seriously cute, and at least did not come off as seasoned mercenaries. As we were leaving with them and walking away, we saw momma following us. She tried to ask for her cut (500) up front. We told her no, that we would give 2500 to the girls and that she could get it from them later. Momma protested. We held firm. We won.

The night was still young so we asked the girls if they wanted to get a drink and if they knew somewhere good. They were shy but agreed, and said there was a bar nearby but that it was "cheap" and seemed embarrassed about it. Cute.

Bar was certainly cheap, drank a lot, had a blast. Some of their mall friends came by. Good chemistry, conversation and laughs. Lack of language barrier is a big plus. Went to a nightclub for a bit before heading back to the hotel (by this time it was past midnight).

We hop into the shower, she's adamant about turning lights off so that its pitch black. Whatever. Take shower, asks if I have condom, I say I do. VERY passionate DFK, deep throat. Asks me to bang her in the shower, I say condoms are in the room. She says no condom needed. I say yes condom needed, let's go to the bed. Start banging on the bed, passionate and aggressive. Go through the various positions. Enjoying myself. Suddenly, overwhelming smell of blood. I turn on the lights, it's a war zone with blood all over the sheets. Girl has the look of a toddler who got caught out doing something bad. Couldn't get mad at her and just told her to help me wash the sheets.

After that I was finished with the situation and sent her on her way with 2500. It was about 3 am by this time. On one hand I wanted to fault her for working while on the rag (or at least mentioning it prior) but it it what it is. Actually she was so cute that now I regret not getting her contact. She definitely owes me one.

What's your guys' take on this one?

Report for night #2 at LA Cafe coming up.You should have gone down on her afterwards and earned the ISG Red Badge!

Did she want to leave at 3 am or you kicked her out? Not nice if you kicked her out in the early hours. Could be dangerous for her at that time with limited transportation and maybe headed for a crime infested home neighborhood.

Always get a cell number. Just in case.

Mr Enternational
09-03-19, 20:28
Bar was certainly cheap, drank a lot, had a blast. Some of their mall friends came by.You did not get the name and location of this bar where freelancers hang out?


On one hand I wanted to fault her for working while on the rag (or at least mentioning it prior) but it it what it is. Actually she was so cute that now I regret not getting her contact. She definitely owes me one.

What's your guys' take on this one?My take is that this shows the difference between the farm class of the Philippines and that of Thailand. Most guys have never had the experience of a Thai chick on her period because they have sense enough to put a sponge inside to soak up the blood. In PI bloody sheets is a recurring theme; so much that the hotels have a list of what you have to pay when it happens.

Member #4698
09-03-19, 21:37
First post! What's your guys' take on this one? My take is, WELCOME TO THE PI! More than any other country in Asia, this is where you are most likely to shag girl on her mens or just after. Fortunately, you will live! Ha Ha. And next time, keep the lights on. I knew something was awry as I was reading your post and a big warning sign started flashing in my mind about the lights. When a girl insists on pitch black it means she wants to hide something. I immediately think a dick or something worse even like genital warts. That's why I insist that the lights must always be on. Just remember, however, that there is no clue ahead of time when a girl thinks she is over her mens, but you both discover a drop or two of blood on the sheets or on your condom (dick) afterwards. This latter scenario occurs more often than a full flow. But Mr. E is absolutely right. This sort of thing very, very rarely happens in Thailand.

The bottom line is the girl should have told you she was on her mens as she knew her situation and secondarily she was still willing to shag you bareback. Not good! Maybe aim a little higher next time and pick up a Go Go girl instead. But great report. I enjoyed reading it.

Kabul Guy
09-03-19, 23:37
Annoying Grab will not always alow you to establish an account before you arrive in country.....It also does not allow you to log on in a country where they are not active to check GrabPay balance or top up. AKA "cash in" in Grab speak.

Wicked Roger
09-04-19, 06:52
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When a girl insists on pitch black it means she wants to hide something. I immediately think a dick or something worse even like genital warts. That's why I insist that the lights must always be on.
But great report. I enjoyed reading it.I also got that impeding doom feeling reading the FR.

The other issue about men is when they tell you and say 'I am on the rag but it is OK you shag my ass instead' - that is a huge red flag as = LB usually.

DG. I know a few who have that badge but are real perverts unless like gentleman like myself LOL.

Tachibana
09-04-19, 10:44
You did not get the name and location of this bar where freelancers hang out?Unfortunately no. It's more of an eatery with tables, open air shack style. Seemed to be very popular with local flips, drinking San Migs chilled in buckets.

Very close to Robinsons, and the club that we went to after, XXYZ or something like that (Loaded to the tits with freelancers, and beers only 150 pesos!


You should have gone down on her afterwards and earned the ISG Red Badge!

Did she want to leave at 3 am or you kicked her out? Not nice if you kicked her out in the early hours. Could be dangerous for her at that time with limited transportation and maybe headed for a crime infested home neighborhood.

Always get a cell number. Just in case.Hahaha unfortunately I'm quite a wimp when it comes to the Brown Yellow or Red Badges. As soon as I smelled the iron it was over for me.

Yeah the way I phrased it sounded like that, but actually after cleaning up the crime scene I let her know she could stay if she wanted. But she went with her friend (who was with mine) anyways.


My take is, WELCOME TO THE PI!

The bottom line is the girl should have told you she was on her mens as she knew her situation and secondarily she was still willing to shag you bareback. Not good! Maybe aim a little higher next time and pick up a Go Go girl instead. But great report. I enjoyed reading it.Thanks! All in all the other parts of the night were good fun so it wasn't a complete bust. And yeah I am so glad that I rubbered up.