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Just planning my next trip and I will have 12 hours to kill in Manila before heading home. I was thinking of getting a cheap hotel near the airport to dump my bags and then going to Flight 168 massage parlour.
Could someone please advise me if they provide just a massage and HJ here or is this a full service joint? In any case, is it a worthwhile experience?
Thanks.There is a baggage check in terminal 3 behind Burger King on ground floor. 300 pesos for. A few hours. You don't need a room as you will get a good cleaning at 168.
It also does not allow you to log on in a country where they are not active to check GrabPay balance or top up. AKA "cash in" in Grab speak.I never have any balance, I always pay the driver cash, plus tip.
First post!
What's your guys' take on this one?
Unless your absolutely sure, always use a towel or two, they're easier to clean than the sheets.
After that I was finished with the situation and sent her on her way with 2500. It was about 3 am by this time. On one hand I wanted to fault her for working while on the rag (or at least mentioning it prior) but it it what it is. Actually she was so cute that now I regret not getting her contact. She definitely owes me one.The girl got her money, the mamasan got her cut. Business goes on. That you were disappointed is of no interest to them.
I never have any balance, I always pay the driver cash, plus tip.If you use GrabPay you get more points and get to a higher status quicker.
That results in getting your ride requests prioritized.
Also when you send a girl home on Grab you can use your account and not have to worry about giving additional for the ride.
You know, I go back and visit and I have my main girl and a few girls on the side as well, when I'm not with her. I'm sure you all know the routine.
She's very Catholic and it is a real struggle to try to get her to do more than vanilla sex. She seems to be under the impression that blowjobs are for working girls, and since our relationship is basically freelance, and that means she's not a working girl.
I don't attempt to unravel the backflips she does to justify our relationship. But I could use a blowjob once in a while.
What do I do to get a blowjob once in a while?
Roll Aides
09-07-19, 09:08
You know, I go back and visit and I have my main girl and a few girls on the side as well, when I'm not with her. I'm sure you all know the routine.
She's very Catholic and it is a real struggle to try to get her to do more than vanilla sex. She seems to be under the impression that blowjobs are for working girls, and since our relationship is basically freelance, and that means she's not a working girl.
I don't attempt to unravel the backflips she does to justify our relationship. But I could use a blowjob once in a while.
What do I do to get a blowjob once in a while?Replace with different girl who does what you want. Not rocket science.
WestCoast1
09-07-19, 11:44
Replace with different girl who does what you want. Not rocket science.
What do I do to get a blowjob once in a while?What. You want me to bring this girl directly to your hotel? Do I get a commission?
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=2366838&viewfull=1#post2366838
Roll Aides
09-07-19, 12:12
What. You want me to bring this girl directly to your hotel? Do I get a commission?
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2446-Photo-Gallery&p=2366838&viewfull=1#post2366838You pimpin' now Westie? Buy low sell high LOL.
What do I do to get a blowjob once in a while?Put on Redtube.com and find a good blowjob clip. Put it on with her and ask her to try that.
Other than that, just ask he to lick it a bit.
Chocha Monger
09-07-19, 16:31
You know, I go back and visit and I have my main girl and a few girls on the side as well, when I'm not with her. I'm sure you all know the routine.
She's very Catholic and it is a real struggle to try to get her to do more than vanilla sex. She seems to be under the impression that blowjobs are for working girls, and since our relationship is basically freelance, and that means she's not a working girl.
I don't attempt to unravel the backflips she does to justify our relationship. But I could use a blowjob once in a while.
What do I do to get a blowjob once in a while?She is saving the blowjobs for her Filipino boyfriend, who is a circumcised Catholic. That way she can tell him that she does not do the real nasty sex with you the foreign monger. Holding back some of the nastier sex acts from you allows her to feel that she is not really cheating on her Pinoy sweetheart, and it soothes his ego when she brings him your money.
What can you do for a blowjob? Replace her with a girl who fucks and sucks without holding anything back. Your indulgence of her Filipina logic is admirable but mistaken. You can bet your last peso that she sucks the brown off her Pinoy's dick.
Wicked Roger
09-07-19, 19:39
What do I do to get a blowjob once in a while?Failing the usual routes as suggested you could do what someone (Irish) I knew from the Middle East did as his 'party trick' he BBBJ himself. Very sad but very true LOL.
Member #4698
09-07-19, 22:36
What do I do to get a blowjob once in a while?Tequila! Buy a good quality Anejo. It will work like a charm. But if it doesn't it is time to go out and find another girl or girls.
You know, I go back and visit and I have my main girl and a few girls on the side as well, when I'm not with her. I'm sure you all know the routine.
She's very Catholic and it is a real struggle to try to get her to do more than vanilla sex. She seems to be under the impression that blowjobs are for working girls, and since our relationship is basically freelance, and that means she's not a working girl.
I don't attempt to unravel the backflips she does to justify our relationship. But I could use a blowjob once in a while.
What do I do to get a blowjob once in a while?Are you in some way committed to this girl? Would you keep dining at a restaurant who won't cook your steak the way you like?
She is saving the blowjobs for her Filipino boyfriend, k.This is quite possibly true. I have been with a girl for a while now and she was recently approached by a local boy who knows she has a western BF. He said that he wanted to be her local BF and I could be here western one. What kind of nutter accepts sharing a girl. Maybe he just wants the sex, maybe he is hoping to get some of her pesos. Sick if you ask me.
I met a Philly girl who didn't like to go down. I would spend ages on her. I would watch a movie on my phone while I was down there. I would just put my head between her legs and lie there and watch a movie or whatever, sometimes not even licking. Then I asked her to lie there and play with her phone while she pay down there just playing with her hand or maybe my dick resting against her cheek. Then she started to kiss it once in a while and eventually it went into her mouth. Now she will easily spend 45 minutes down there 5 days a week just watching a movie with me in her mouth or licking or whatever. She eventually decided that she wanted me to cum in her mouth once to see what it was like and when she saw my reaction to unloading in her mouth she loved it and now asks all the time if she can make me cum. She went from not wanting it to giving literally hours or oral every single week.
WestCoast1
09-08-19, 04:29
You can bet your last peso that she sucks the brown off her Pinoy's dick.
someone (Irish) I knew from the Middle East did as his 'party trick' he BBBJ himself.
Would you keep dining at a restaurant who won't cook your steak the way you like?Strel you're taking it hard on the chin here. They are even suggesting you BJ yourself. If you do, I would request you get us a pic.
You know, I go back and visit and I have my main girl and a few girls on the side as well, when I'm not with her. I'm sure you all know the routine.
She's very Catholic and it is a real struggle to try to get her to do more than vanilla sex. She seems to be under the impression that blowjobs are for working girls, and since our relationship is basically freelance, and that means she's not a working girl.
I don't attempt to unravel the backflips she does to justify our relationship. But I could use a blowjob once in a while.
What do I do to get a blowjob once in a while?If there's something you particularly like about this girl, keep fucking her and get your blowjobs elsewhere. There are thousands of other girls that would suck you off within 5 minutes of you asking them.
If there is nothing special about your pinay and you're fucking her just because, replace her ASAP. You can bet your best dollar she would replace you ASAP if the pesos stopped flowing in.
If there's something you particularly like about this girl, keep fucking her and get your blowjobs elsewhere. There are thousands of other girls that would suck you off within 5 minutes of you asking them.
If there is nothing special about your pinay and you're fucking her just because, replace her ASAP. You can bet your best dollar she would replace you ASAP if the pesos stopped flowing in.Philippine girls are generally averse to deep French kissing and blow jobs. Acc. To girls I talked boys want straight sex and release. Other things like experimenting is introduced by mongers. While American girls can take shine off your chrome Asian girls are hardly ever into it. Even DATY is not liked but tolerated. Some girls wonder why westerners do it. BBJB are taught by brothel owners including anal rimming. Regular girls do not like to do it.
Like others suggested negotiate with girls before you take them. Forcing your GF to do it is not good if otherwise you are very happy with her.
PedroMorales
09-08-19, 13:24
blow jobs. Acc. To girls I talked boys want straight sex and release. Other things like experimenting is introduced by mongers. While American girls can take shine off your chrome Asian girls are hardly ever into it. Even DATY is not liked but tolerated. Regular girls do not like to do it..NMot my experience at all. Women have told me they love DATY. Viets immediately go down.
Wicked Roger
09-08-19, 15:34
BBJB are taught by brothel owners including anal rimming. Regular girls do not like to do it.
Lr.Or you teach her as I have taught many pinay on this and more LOL.
P.S. Some don't like BDSM until they try it and I always tell them try it 3 times before you tell me you hate it. Works most of the time.
Failing the usual routes as suggested you could do what someone (Irish) I knew from the Middle East did as his 'party trick' he BBBJ himself. Very sad but very true LOL.Was your friend from Nantucket, perhaps?
I once knew a man from Natucket, whose dick was so long he could suck it.
He said with a grin, as he wiped off his chin.
"If my ear was a see**t, I would fuck it".
Philippine girls are generally averse to deep French kissing and blow jobs. Acc. To girls I talked boys want straight sex and release. Other things like experimenting is introduced by mongers. While American girls can take shine off your chrome Asian girls are hardly ever into it. Even DATY is not liked but tolerated. Some girls wonder why westerners do it. BBJB are taught by brothel owners including anal rimming. Regular girls do not like to do it.
Like others suggested negotiate with girls before you take them. Forcing your GF to do it is not good if otherwise you are very happy with her.Completely the opposite.
Some of the wildest girls I've ever fucked are 'normal' pinays and korean girls who have never set foot in a brothel. They did everything from polishing my pole with their mouths, to BBBJ / CIM, anal, licking my creampie straight from their pussies, rimming, anal etc.
If a girl is too squirmish about these things and isn't willing to open up and explore, why waste time with her?
Completely the opposite.
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If a girl is too squirmish about these things and isn't willing to open up and explore, why waste time with her?+1. I was ecstatic a couple of trips ago to arrive in Cebu to find a wave of deep throating had swept town. Over the next 7 to 10 days I only had one average BJ. All the rest were full depth face fucks.
If the OPs girl isn't keeping him happy, there are many who will.
NMot my experience at all. Women have told me they love DATY. Viets immediately go down.You want to get a girl going don't use your hands or cock use your tongue.
Next thing we will hear is that girls don't like being on top.
NI.
Philippine girls are generally averse to deep French kissing and blow jobs. Acc. To girls I talked boys want straight sex and release. Other things like experimenting is introduced by mongers. While American girls can take shine off your chrome Asian girls are hardly ever into it. Even DATY is not liked but tolerated. Some girls wonder why westerners do it. BBJB are taught by brothel owners including anal rimming. Regular girls do not like to do it............I'm not too sure about that but one thing I'm sure about is that no one sucks dick like an American girl.
Philippine girls are generally averse to deep French kissing and blow jobs. .....As with some others not my experience at all. I have only had a couple out of a couple hundred who would not willingly do both, most of the time without asking. The best BBBJ's I have had have been from pinas.
I hunt on Tinder, PL and SA for "regular girls" not the pro's and bar girls.
I hunt on Tinder, PL and SA for "regular girls" not the pro's and bar girls.Looking over SA today it appears many "regular girls" in the provinces are using it. In the USA SA typically lists very expensive, more educated, good looking babes. The province girls on SA look like the same girls I see on dating sites. Some downright Fugly. I would guess the rates for SA province girls are the same as street girls or maybe even better. Any price, quality, and dependability feed back from guys that have used it in the Phils?
I have a regular who likes to provide me with 3 somes and 4 somes. We were talking and I said that Iwould like a 5 some, me and 4 girls.
When she asked around about getting some girls, her friends wanted in on the action and we ended up having a 7 some. That was me and 6 girls. My regular is in her 40's and the other 5 girls were all in their 20's.
She had a source about getting a room at Solaire with a king-sized bed but that fell through at the last minute so we took a suite at Infinity Suites in Makati. It was 14 k for the night in a 3-bedroom suite, it was one of only 2 places I could find on Expedia that would allow that many people. (I did not want to sneak them into a place for fewer people and we could easily end up on the street that way.).
Check in was easy, they just collected and copied everyone's ID and acted like it was perfectly normal for a white guy in his 60's to check in with a harem of hotties. The look I got from a couple older expats in the lobby was almost worth the price of the room LOL.
Spent several hours fucking and sucking, managed to fuck all of them except for the one who just started her period, I came the first time in her mouth (I had seen and fucked her before.) Ordered pizza and watched a movie lying on the couch with 6 naked girls. I had a 12 hand massage.
They would not go for any girl on girl action, but the two biggest sets of tits were rubbed in my face and together with my tongue between while I was getting rode or blown.
Two of the girls were sisters and they did a tag team BBBJ.
Selected the two best fucks to sleep with in one of the king sized beds, fucked them both again before we slept then in the morning fucked one again while sucking the other's tits and when she came, I switched girls and blew my load the final time in the second girl while the first was playing with my balls.
The rest were awake by then and I had them all kneel in a line and went from one to the next getting a final BBBJ times 6. Didn't come as my balls were dry.
Cost was 14 k for the room plus 6 k each for a total of 50 k for about 16 hours. Pricey for a night but worth it to fulfill a couple fantasies, sisters and a major reverse gang bang harem style.
Not something I would do again, there just is not enough guy to keep 6 girls busy at the same time. I would just as soon get a smaller room and have 3 girls but about the same amount of fucking, just more per girl.
The girl that sets up these for me specifically asked that I not share her information, she said she has a small group of guys she takes care of and that she doesn't want to take any risk with her girls seeing strangers.
Looking over SA today it appears many "regular girls" in the provinces are using it. In the USA SA typically lists very expensive, more educated, good looking babes. The province girls on SA look like the same girls I see on dating sites. Some downright Fugly. I would guess the rates for SA province girls are the same as street girls or maybe even better. Any price, quality, and dependability feed back from guys that have used it in the Phils?Girls' accounts are free, they can get better listings with a premium account but even that is free if they use a college or university email account. I believe that the girls premium account just moves them ahead in the searches.
A couple years ago it was much like back home, better girls, many looking for longer term arrangements. As word has gotten around that this is a good source of dates more are attracted to the site and it risks becoming overcrowded with fuglies like PL, Tinder et al.
I have still found most of the top quality girls that I have had from there but like everything quality costs.
Girls' accounts are free, they can get better listings with a premium account but even that is free if they use a college or university email account. I believe that the girls premium account just moves them ahead in the searches.
A couple years ago it was much like back home, better girls, many looking for longer term arrangements. As word has gotten around that this is a good source of dates more are attracted to the site and it risks becoming overcrowded with fuglies like PL, Tinder et al.
I have still found most of the top quality girls that I have had from there but like everything quality costs.Hi KG, this post isn't directed at you.
I agree, the quality has gone downhill; but not just in the Philippines. And the prettier ones are expecting a lot. Almost US prices. Additionally, the ladyboys are starting to get involved in SA. Finally, not just in the Philippines, but there are a lot of profiles that want to be paid for a platonic relationship. Hmm. I'm going to pay you NOT to have sex with me? I'm going to pay you while your slacker BF fucks you? I'm going to pay you to listen to your problems and drama?
I wouldn't pay for a subscription unless there were 3-4 girls you really want to meet. Just realize that everyone else wants to meet those 3-4 girls, as well. The requirement of a $90/ month subscription just to message a girl makes the male membership more exclusive; the girls know this and charge as such.
Hi KG, this post isn't directed at you.
I agree, the quality has gone downhill; but not just in the Philippines. And the prettier ones are expecting a lot. Almost US prices. Additionally, the ladyboys are starting to get involved in SA. Finally, not just in the Philippines, but there are a lot of profiles that want to be paid for a platonic relationship. Hmm. I'm going to pay you NOT to have sex with me? I'm going to pay you while your slacker BF fucks you? I'm going to pay you to listen to your problems and drama?
I wouldn't pay for a subscription unless there were 3-4 girls you really want to meet. Just realize that everyone else wants to meet those 3-4 girls, as well. The requirement of a $90/ month subscription just to message a girl makes the male membership more exclusive; the girls know this and charge as such.I agree, while there are still quality girls there, they are asking for more and more. I was home this summer and the same is happening there, in 2015 and 16 I had really good hunting there in Canada, now lots of girls asking $500 just for first meeting with sex off the table initially.
I will be letting my membership lapse, (I get 3 months at a time) as I can fill my bed from Tinder and with the regulars I have connected with over the last 2 years here.
LiveFree25
09-12-19, 01:07
Hi gents,
I have a layover in manila next month so I'm wondering how the action is in Edsa vs Makati these days. Is it worth fighting afternoon traffic to go to Makati or is it advisable to just ser what is available in Edsa sonce its closer to the airport. Haven't seen much chatter about Edsa area lately so little unclear what is the best course of action.
Thanks in advance!
I agree, while there are still quality girls there, they are asking for more and more. I was home this summer and the same is happening there, in 2015 and 16 I had really good hunting there in Canada, now lots of girls asking $500 just for first meeting with sex off the table initially.
I will be letting my membership lapse, (I get 3 months at a time) as I can fill my bed from Tinder and with the regulars I have connected with over the last 2 years here.An SA girl in London last year expected 600 GBP for (a very expensive) dinner, only. I can't imagine being wealthy enough to be ok with that, but apparently a lot of Londoners are.
I have a local SA girl about 90 minutes away who drives down to me for an afternoon of fun, $400 including 100 for her gas and travel time. 20 years old, petite and slim, a scholarship student and she loves getting dirty. You'll note my absence from the Philippines for the last 8 months. Food and traffic are better here. The only thing I miss are the multiple girls I can bed in Manila.
Looking over SA today it appears many "regular girls" in the provinces are using it. In the USA SA typically lists very expensive, more educated, good looking babes. The province girls on SA look like the same girls I see on dating sites. Some downright Fugly. I would guess the rates for SA province girls are the same as street girls or maybe even better. Any price, quality, and dependability feed back from guys that have used it in the Phils?I have been using Seeking in the west. For sure there are a heap of messages from average girls and also from Filipinas in the pH. My local experiences have been excellent, in a upper class that I haven't experienced on Tinder. As a married guy Tinder has some dangers for me which probably reduces my options there.
For Seeking I am specific as to my needs and requirements. Each time has been 3-5 days until I found exactly what I was hoping.
PP.
Hi gents,
I have a layover in manila next month so I'm wondering how the action is in Edsa vs Makati these days. Is it worth fighting afternoon traffic to go to Makati or is it advisable to just ser what is available in Edsa sonce its closer to the airport. Haven't seen much chatter about Edsa area lately so little unclear what is the best course of action.
Thanks in advance!Read post #17449. Same answer to same question.
Don’t forget to file a report.
MohdirFan82
09-13-19, 11:06
Hi gents,
I have a layover in manila next month so I'm wondering how the action is in Edsa vs Makati these days. Is it worth fighting afternoon traffic to go to Makati or is it advisable to just ser what is available in Edsa sonce its closer to the airport. Haven't seen much chatter about Edsa area lately so little unclear what is the best course of action.
Thanks in advance!If you have layover atleast 2 days, get a hotel in malate near Roberson mall.
Google map and walk towards LA cafe. Everyone of them are ready to go with you.
This is quickest and effective.
Hi gents,
I have a layover in manila next month so I'm wondering how the action is in Edsa vs Makati these days. Is it worth fighting afternoon traffic to go to Makati or is it advisable to just ser what is available in Edsa sonce its closer to the airport. Haven't seen much chatter about Edsa area lately so little unclear what is the best course of action.
Thanks in advance!I haven't been to Manila since February but EDSA should keep you entertained and supply what you are looking for, for one night. Try to get there around 7 for the best selection. After 10-midnight, most of the pretty girls will give you sloppy seconds.
Give us an update if you go there, please.
LiveFree25
09-13-19, 18:31
I haven't been to Manila since February but EDSA should keep you entertained and supply what you are looking for, for one night. Try to get there around 7 for the best selection. After 10-midnight, most of the pretty girls will give you sloppy seconds.
Give us an update if you go there, please.Thanks for the advice. I'm a noobie so I appreciate the info. I will definitely post a report after my journey.
If you have layover atleast 2 days, get a hotel in malate near Roberson mall.
Google map and walk towards LA cafe. Everyone of them are ready to go with you.
This is quickest and effective.Malate hotels are far away. Get a hotel in Ermita for walking distance to LACafe. Best western is 3 minutes walk in the same road. Good hotel with included breakfast. Book for 2.
Soapy Smith
09-14-19, 02:19
Malate hotels are far away. Get a hotel in Ermita for walking distance to LACafe. Best western is 3 minutes walk in the same road. Good hotel with included breakfast. Book for 2.Best Western is an okay choice, but there are hotels in Malate that are closer. Apologies for posting this numerous times previously: the dividing line between Ermita and Malate is Pedro Gil. Thus New World Hotel (2 blocks from LA Cafe) is in Malate. Other Malate hotels and their distance from LA Cafe include: Las Palmas (3), Executive (3 1/2), Riviera Mansion (3 1/2), Palm Grove (4), Rothman (4 1/2), and Eurotel (5 1/2). All are easy walking distance, and the walk takes you past various restaurants and convenience stores. Eurotel is directly across Pedro Gil from Robinson's Place. In Ermita the closest hotel is Boulevard Mansion (1 1/2 blocks), then Duck Inn (4) and Best Western (4). There are numerous other Malate hotels at greater distance. If proximity to Robinson's Place is important, most of the Malate hotels I named are closer than those in Ermita. Quality varies among these hotels, and none are exactly high-end. You should go on one of the hotel sites like Agoda and check out customer ratings and remarks. Sam is correct that you should book for two, and this applies to all these hotels. This probably belongs in the Manila Hotels thread, but I'm to lazy to copy and past it all.
Best Western is an okay choice, but there are hotels in Malate that are closer. Apologies for posting this numerous times previously: the dividing line between Ermita and Malate is Pedro Gil. Thus New World Hotel (2 blocks from LA Cafe) is in Malate. Other Malate hotels and their distance from LA Cafe include: Las Palmas (3), Executive (3 1/2), Riviera Mansion (3 1/2), Palm Grove (4), Rothman (4 1/2), and Eurotel (5 1/2). All are easy walking distance, and the walk takes you past various restaurants and convenience stores. Eurotel is directly across Pedro Gil from Robinson's Place. In Ermita the closest hotel is Boulevard Mansion (1 1/2 blocks), then Duck Inn (4) and Best Western (4). There are numerous other Malate hotels at greater distance. If proximity to Robinson's Place is important, most of the Malate hotels I named are closer than those in Ermita. Quality varies among these hotels, and none are exactly high-end. You should go on one of the hotel sites like Agoda and check out customer ratings and remarks. Sam is correct that you should book for two, and this applies to all these hotels. This probably belongs in the Manila Hotels thread, but I'm to lazy to copy and past it all.Going in Dec. Staying Regency Grand. Paid 37 US. Looks ok to me for short time. Quick walk to Robinson's.
Any feedback?
Soapy Smith
09-14-19, 10:03
Going in Dec. Staying Regency Grand. Paid 37 US. Looks ok to me for short time. Quick walk to Robinson's.
Any feedback?I've stayed there a couple times. It's in a highrise of about 40 floors called Birch Tower, about six or eight years old; mostly condos in addition to three separate hotel operations that have two or three floors each. There's a pool, but it is mostly covered, and WC has reported that the water is not very warm.
The units I have been in are long and narrow condo-like units. Decent bathroom along a hallway, then a small kitchenette with fridge and maybe a microwave. Then a queen bed without much space around it, but balcony opens off the bedroom area. Bed was comfortable and aircon dependable. View toward Manila Bay is more expensive, but those on the North and South have a good view of the city.
One time I was there wifi was not dependable. They claimed they contract it out and bad weather was playing havoc. Except there was wifi in the little ground floor cafe, so I'm not sure I believe them. When I was there many occupants in condo units were either Middle Easterners or Koreans, many of them trafficking in and out with scantily clad women, some with more tats than skin. Four elevators, but they sometimes shut off one or two, and wait can be a pain in the ass.
It's passable, especially for the price. It's on J. Bocobo, technically in Malate, half a block from Robinsons's, very near Eurotel. 5 1/2 blocks to LA Cafe, about the same to G-Point, and some KTVs are also in the area.
Mr Enternational
09-14-19, 11:08
I've stayed there a couple times. It's in a highrise of about 40 floors called Birch Tower, about six or eight years old; mostly condos in addition to three separate hotel operations have a good view of the city.
Four elevators, but they sometimes shut off one or two, and wait can be a pain in the ass.I stayed in an airbnb there at the end of November. Every single thing is exactly as you have described it. I think I was on the 35th floor. I remembered asking my girlfriend how the fuck they only have 4 elevators for a building this tall. And like you said, they only use 3 at a time. I went into one of the hotel operations to ask about the rooms. They took us up to see a few. They were much more basic and more expensive than the airbnb that I was staying in.
Oh, and your guest has to turn in their ID, get processed, take a picture, and get a visitor's badge to get past the front desk. There is a turnstyle that you have to scan the badge on to get to the elevators. You have to do it upon arrival as well and they keep your passport or ID until you check out.
Soapy Smith
09-14-19, 20:10
Oh, and your guest has to turn in their ID, get processed, take a picture, and get a visitor's badge to get past the front desk. There is a turnstyle that you have to scan the badge on to get to the elevators. You have to do it upon arrival as well and they keep your passport or ID until you check out.This is a change since I was last there about two years ago. Grand Regency has its check-in counter to the left inside the door, right alongside the cafe. Another hotel operation, JRR Grand, has its counter to the right as you come in, and another outfit, Birch Condotel, is in the back of the first floor, or maybe up a flight of stairs from the first floor. The turnstile thing is new, because, after my initial check-in, my guests and I we were able to walk on in as though we owned the place. I guess privacy is losing out to security.
This is a change since I was last there about two years ago. Grand Regency has its check-in counter to the left inside the door, right alongside the cafe. Another hotel operation, JRR Grand, has its counter to the right as you come in, and another outfit, Birch Condotel, is in the back of the first floor, or maybe up a flight of stairs from the first floor. The turnstile thing is new, because, after my initial check-in, my guests and I we were able to walk on in as though we owned the place. I guess privacy is losing out to security.I suppose the hassle is worth the security aspect. I suppose.
Engine Driver
09-14-19, 23:15
Best Western is an okay choice, but there are hotels in Malate that are closer. Apologies for posting this numerous times previously: the dividing line between Ermita and Malate is Pedro Gil. Thus New World Hotel (2 blocks from LA Cafe) is in Malate. Other Malate hotels and their distance from LA Cafe include: Las Palmas (3), Executive (3 1/2), Riviera Mansion (3 1/2), Palm Grove (4), Rothman (4 1/2), and Eurotel (5 1/2). All are easy walking distance, and the walk takes you past various restaurants and convenience stores. Eurotel is directly across Pedro Gil from Robinson's Place. In Ermita the closest hotel is Boulevard Mansion (1 1/2 blocks), then Duck Inn (4) and Best Western (4). There are numerous other Malate hotels at greater distance. If proximity to Robinson's Place is important, most of the Malate hotels I named are closer than those in Ermita. Quality varies among these hotels, and none are exactly high-end. You should go on one of the hotel sites like Agoda and check out customer ratings and remarks. Sam is correct that you should book for two, and this applies to all these hotels. This probably belongs in the Manila Hotels thread, but I'm to lazy to copy and past it all.One of the better hotels in this area is the famous Diamond Hotel which is 5 star (Phillipines standard). It's a useful landmark if you are walking up and down Roxas Boulevard on a hot day looking for a root. It's about 250 metres from LA Cafe if you head west. There are regular specials on line and you can often get a room for $140. If you pay a few dollars more, you can access the club floor. If you have a late flight that night, you can hang out in the executive lounge after checking out, eat their free food, skol down a few g&t's and type up a few forum reports until it's time to go. I've asked for a late check out for 1. 30 pm, gone to LA Cafe at 12.00 noon, picked up a hooker, taken her back to the room and squeezed in a last minute, final root before leaving.
WestCoast1
09-15-19, 04:01
Oh, and your guest has to turn in their ID, get processed, take a picture, and get a visitor's badge to get past the front desk. There is a turnstyle that you have to scan the badge on to get to the elevators. You have to do it upon arrival as well and they keep your passport or ID until you check out.If you balk about them keeping your passport, they will ask you for a p300 deposit and you get to keep the passport. They give the 300 back when you check out of your unit and turn in the security pass. Soapy my wifi speeds were always good enough for streaming in any unit. The largest downside is the elevators (compare to similar waits in Makati's Citadel Inn on Burgos St). From about 4-8 pm, even with all 4 elevators operating, the crowds outside the elevators mean 10 minute waits to get up to your unit. Coming down from floor 35 might also be no fun, as it might stop at 13 different floors on the way down. Studios are 22 square meters (that includes the balcony, the interior is 20 sq meters), relatively a tight fit.
If you balk about them keeping your passport, they will ask you for a p300 deposit and you get to keep the passport. ...t.I have a couple expired driver license from home that I will leave with security. So far they have never objected to that. Now if they lose my ID it is not much of a loss.
Security anywhere has never lost an ID but one place put my ID with the tag from another person's ID and they had to search for about 30 minutes, only found it when the other person returned and they went to give her my Canadian DL.
They kept wanting to serve the people behind me before returning to look for my ID, I was pretty firm that first come first served and any fall out for the line taking too long was not my concern. Did end up with one person dedicated to looking for it.
Against the advice of a Japanese guy we met at the casino who described LA Cafe girls as "the worst", my friend and I dropped by after a long gambling session. Time was about 1 am.
Japanese guy was right, although as most people say cuties can be found there. Although I'm not sure if it looks that way because everything is relative and the fuglies make any decent looking girl stand out.
The server who led us to our seats was a real *****. I right away called her out on her crappy attitude and asked her "why are you angry? To which she cracked a small genuine smile before returning to bad face. Later on I would find she harassed my friend for a "ladies drink", which my he ignored but that she put it on the tab anyways. Friend just went "fuck it" and paid.
Anyways I took a skinny young looking girl with grey contact lenses that looked good on her. Almost looked part Indian. My friend, I don't know what the hell is wrong with him, took this savage 40 plus year old with a stanking breath because she looked like some famous Japanese celebrity. The girl brings her own pool cue there, so she must go a lot. They asked 3000 K for short time, and in hindsight it was probably dumb not to negotiate either for longtime for that price of 2 k for short-time but we were on Thailand prices so it seemed more trouble than worth at the time.
Before we left stank breath bitched at us about how the rule was we need to buy a ladies drink for the ladies, or else LA cafe will charge the girl for a drink. I pointed out that stank breath already had drinks ordered. She said okay just buy grey eyes a drink. I asked an army guy at the next table and he said the policy that the girls either have to buy one drink or have one bought for them during their night is true, but that I was under no obligation to buy one for her. Whatever, got her the drink which she didn't even drink and we left.
Walking back to the hotel stank breath was really getting on my nerves, and even my girl I noticed she had kindof a raspy breath which made he seem a little older and worn out than I liked and her clothing was kind of bargain skank style. Add that to the fact that Karaoke girls were leaving their shifts and looked mighty tempting, I was quite regretting my decision as I felt I had picked up a worn out LA cafe broad. I also had previous period girl experience the night before.
Back in the hotel, well, turns out contacts was an incredible F. After riding me I take her to the corner of the bed and pound mish. Her eyes roll back and she basically gives herself up to me to use, as if she were in overwhelming pleasure that just took control of her body. Choking, slapping, all OK. If acting, A plus performance. Finish with cum on tummy, how I like it. Enthusiastic all the way through and really friendly even after. Stuck around for a bit and chatted. Can't remember exactly but I think her age was around 23 (at least according to flimsy PH ID). All in all worth the 3 K but my next trip I will certainly be negotiating.
By the way, headed to Manila again in a couple months (by chance). Anyone have experience with club freelancers and could give me an idea of price ranges and good places to go?
Blanquiceleste
09-15-19, 17:23
I stayed in an airbnb there at the end of November. Every single thing is exactly as you have described it. I think I was on the 35th floor. I remembered asking my girlfriend how the fuck they only have 4 elevators for a building this tall. And like you said, they only use 3 at a time. I went into one of the hotel operations to ask about the rooms. They took us up to see a few. They were much more basic and more expensive than the airbnb that I was staying in.
Oh, and your guest has to turn in their ID, get processed, take a picture, and get a visitor's badge to get past the front desk. There is a turnstyle that you have to scan the badge on to get to the elevators. You have to do it upon arrival as well and they keep your passport or ID until you check out.I always stay at Gramercy in Makati. Yes, I have to get my own ID done along with a photograph and copy of passport / other identity document. Not once has anyone asked for the identity cards of the myriad of girls I have brought back, No one even as much blinks.
Prices in the range of $50 - $70 a night, I usually get a room on level 60 or above.
WestCoast1
09-15-19, 22:18
I always stay at Gramercy in Makati. Yes, I have to get my own ID done along with a photograph and copy of passport / other identity document. Not once has anyone asked for the identity cards of the myriad of girls I have brought back, No one even as much blinks.Interesting. Have stayed Gram several times. Also Milano and Knightsbridge. Front door security takes my girl's eye dee every single time.
In Cebu at a recent condo stay, security made me sign a release form before letting my non-eye-dee'd girl into the elevator (she is a regular, lost her eye dee, we replaced it).
Mr Enternational
09-15-19, 23:15
Before we left stank breath bitched at us about how the rule was we need to buy a ladies drink for the ladies, or else LA cafe will charge the girl for a drink.Once again, just let the chick leave first then you come out a couple of minutes after to avoid that drink stuff. Hell the chicks are the ones that taught the trick to me. They were really trying to fuck you over if they tried to make you buy them drinks AND pay 3000 ST. And please don't give them hoes 3000 pesos again, not even for Long Time. Although I have never given that much, I would say 2500 max for LT.
I have a couple expired driver license from home that I will leave with security. So far they have never objected to that. Now if they lose my ID it is not much of a loss.
Security anywhere has never lost an ID but one place put my ID with the tag from another person's ID and they had to search for about 30 minutes, only found it when the other person returned and they went to give her my Canadian DL.
They kept wanting to serve the people behind me before returning to look for my ID, I was pretty firm that first come first served and any fall out for the line taking too long was not my concern. Did end up with one person dedicated to looking for it.One hotel kept my ID and I forgot to collect it when I checked out. I discovered the missing passport when I was in the taxi on the way to the airport. I called and made the hotel staff bring it to me in a taxi because I didn't have time for the round trip. Luckily the hotel's number as on their receipt. (keep your receipts). Stressful.
Once again, just let the chick leave first then you come out a couple of minutes after to avoid that drink stuff. Hell the chicks are the ones that taught the trick to me. They were really trying to fuck you over if they tried to make you buy them drinks AND pay 3000 ST. And please don't give them hoes 3000 pesos again, not even for Long Time. Although I have never given that much, I would say 2500 max for LT.Another piece of advice is do not buy any drinks for the girls. They charge double as lady drinks. If a girl asks for a drink and if you want to buy just give her the money under the table. If she buys herself it is cheaper. Another trick is get the phone number after negotiations and wait at a convenient point. Some of those mamasan are downright mercenary although they should not act as mamasan. Only Koreans use them to get them girls but then they are big spenders.
Blanquiceleste
09-16-19, 01:22
Interesting. Have stayed Gram several times. Also Milano and Knightsbridge. Front door security takes my girl's eye dee every single time.Surprising indeed. When you get to the front doors, you enter from the left door (facing the building), there is usually one or sometimes two guys standing there who do nothing but smile and open the door. Then in the lobby there is that ugly circular reception area, which is manned by 1 - 4 staff depending on time of the day. They don't even bother to look. You simply walk past to the right and duck into the elevator lobby. But I always fetch the girls myself. I never allow them to walk into Gramercy unaccompanied. I usually tend to meet them across the street at 7/11 and walk back with them. That allows me to buy some snacks / food for the cutie, and they are always hungry.
Soapy Smith
09-16-19, 02:07
The server who led us to our seats was a real *****. I right away called her out on her crappy attitude and asked her "why are you angry? To which she cracked a small genuine smile before returning to bad face. Later on I would find she harassed my friend for a "ladies drink", which my he ignored but that she put it on the tab anyways. Friend just went "fuck it" and paid.The gimmicks around drinks and attitudes of some servers are annoying. But some of the attitudes may be understandable. During slow business hours I have inquired about how much servers are paid. Both they and p4 ps have advised me that LAC servers' pay is about half what retail clerks in the stores are paid, presumably because owners assume they'll get rich on tips. Another annoying practice is when your server circles back with a bottle of some booze and tells you the managers insist that they sell at least five shots or mixed drinks of the particular booze during their shift. I'm pretty sure that stuff is put on them by the managers.
Another indicator of the working conditions: it takes forever to get your server back to settle your bill when you want to leave. I'm pretty sure that they're not making themselves hard to find intentionally; after all, much of their takehome depends on the tips from customers, which they don't score until the customer settles the bill. Having tried to chase down servers under these circumstances, I have usually found them running around serving drinks or collecting from other customers. In other words, when it's busy, they're running their asses off.
More than 20% of Filipinos live in poverty. Within Southeast Asia, only Laos and Myanmar are worse. Yet the Philippines has one of the fastest growing economies in the world; problem is, during the last couple decades of economic growth the Philippines is one of about a half dozen countries in which income inequality is getting worse. What does this have to do with finding horizontal talent in the bars of the Philippines? Servers accept these awful working conditions because they don't have alternatives; likewise with our p4 ps. If you're expecting smiles and thankyous from servers or p4 ps in the Philippines, it's better not to expect Western standards of hospitality.
Don't know what country you're from, but as a Yank contrast, how often do we get smiles and thankyous at Walmart or McDonalds?
One hotel kept my ID and I forgot to collect it when I checked out. I discovered the missing passport when I was in the taxi on the way to the airport. I called and made the hotel staff bring it to me in a taxi because I didn't have time for the round trip. Luckily the hotel's number as on their receipt. (keep your receipts). Stressful.
Grab Express could also have worked well in this case. They will bring stuff by motorcycle so it can zip through traffic quickly.
I have used them a couple times for sending small packages and it is quick and cheap.
I also would never let anyone keep my passport. The only exception would be if it was actually needed for getting a visa or other reason that required a passport to be surrendered, at a hotel they can take a photocopy or I would give them a DL or something that I could survive without in case it went missing.
The gimmicks around drinks and attitudes of some servers are annoying. But some of the attitudes may be understandable...Thanks for the perspective. It's something I knew but we all need reminding from time to time. I've worked some service jobs back in the day and my attitude was probably less than stellar at times.
Though, I do believe we all have our crosses to bear and regardless of our situations we should strive to not be venomous to people. Or maybe if there's one group of people it is justified to despise it is degenerate punters! But, I for one think its admirable for people with crummy jobs to be bright and friendly, and I have seen a lot of that in the US.
Reminds of a good Louis CK quote - "do your job. Because its your job. Because you're the person standing there, doing that thing. So just do it! Do the shit out of it!
All that being said, I digress. I'll concede that it's probably just as bad to be complaining about bad service as it is to give it.
Once again, just let the chick leave first then you come out a couple of minutes after to avoid that drink stuff. Hell the chicks are the ones that taught the trick to me. They were really trying to fuck you over if they tried to make you buy them drinks AND pay 3000 ST. And please don't give them hoes 3000 pesos again, not even for Long Time. Although I have never given that much, I would say 2500 max for LT.Noted.
Any thoughts on market prices for EDSA? Will be headed there next month.
I came up with a process that worked really well, and I thought I should give back to the community.
I coordinated with a girlfriend I already had in Manila. Through the web, I found a girl willing to freelance and go on vacation with me as long as I took care of her.
I got us a two bedroom AirBNB which we turned into a party house. She had her room and I had mine. We both picked freelance up girls. I was able to use her skill with Tagalog to negotiate better prices. We took girls home and had threesomes on most nights of the week. We had a lot of luck, especially at L. A. Cafe.
Even better, my girl had a few contacts that wanted to get a piece of a foreigner, and I was happy to oblige them.
I kept the fridge stocked with San Mig. Light, ordered pizza, and we had a party with multiple beautiful women.
I highly recommend this method if you're staying in Manila since the traditional bargirl scene is quite weak and expensive compared to Angeles. If you go to Manila, it's about the freelance scene. Much easier on the wallet.
10/10 would do again.
Blanquiceleste
09-18-19, 01:05
Noted.
Any thoughts on market prices for EDSA? Will be headed there next month.I have not stepped inside EDSA in over 2 years but I doubt prices would have changed much. Drinks are 250 p for the girls. 1950 p barfine. Girls expect around 3000 p for LT (overnight, they will usually hang around till late morning). Quality is always a hit and miss. Popular bars inside are Cotton Club, Firehouse, Bullets & Arrows, Pitstop. There are also a couple of videoke bars. I have never entered those, they are usually a rip off.
In the past girls would help you dodge the barfine by slipping their contact number to you, you could then contact them and wait at a convenient spot. They would come over after they finish work, which is usually very late. Dunno if that still works. This MO does not work at Burgos bars though, unless you know the girl for a while and she then might come over in the afternoon before starting work in the evening.
Grab Express could also have worked well in this case. They will bring stuff by motorcycle so it can zip through traffic quickly.
I have used them a couple times for sending small packages and it is quick and cheap..For a while I though that Grab stopped carrying just parcels without passengers. It turned out that dealers were able to use the Grab service for a cheap and efficient distribution service.
I have not stepped inside EDSA in over 2 years but I doubt prices would have changed much. Drinks are 250 p for the girls. 1950 p barfine. Girls expect around 3000 p for LT (overnight, they will usually hang around till late morning). Quality is always a hit and miss. Popular bars inside are Cotton Club, Firehouse, Bullets & Arrows, Pitstop. There are also a couple of videoke bars. I have never entered those, they are usually a rip off.
In the past girls would help you dodge the barfine by slipping their contact number to you, you could then contact them and wait at a convenient spot. They would come over after they finish work, which is usually very late. Dunno if that still works. This MO does not work at Burgos bars though, unless you know the girl for a while and she then might come over in the afternoon before starting work in the evening.Prices have been up for some time now. Barfines are 2500 pesos. Girls want 3 K short time. Girls drink are 375? Something like that.
I'll be coming to the Philippines for the first time soon. I'm flying into Manila, staying for a week and a half, and flying back out from Manila. I plan to do some traveling through the country as well like to Cebu and the like.
Unfortunately, I'm on a budget, and I have a lot of social anxiety so the loud bar scene really makes me uncomfortable. I also am extremely allergic to alcohol.
I was hoping that you guys could give me some tips:
I normally try and find brothels or online sex websites that the locals use because those have the best prices, but I've never done an overnight at a hotel I've stayed at.
- Any cheap girl-friendly hotels in Manila, Angeles, Cebu, and places between Cebu and Manila? I'm not looking for luxury. Just a hotel that I can bring a girl back to.
- Am I correct in assuming that overnight should be PHP 2500 or less? Short time is PHP 1500 or less? And streetwalkers can be as low as PHP 500?
- Are there any cheap blowjob bars in these cities? Search doesn't seem to turn up anything, so I guess BJ bars or Hoc Tocs aren't a thing?
- Any good brothels that the locals use where there are zero westerners? Kind of like fishbowls? Again, nothing pops up on search.
Prices have been up for some time now. Barfines are 2500 pesos. Girls want 3 K short time. Girls drink are 375? Something like that.Wow, that's quite a high rate of inflation, especially on the girly drinks. Thanks for the info.
Mr Enternational
09-18-19, 16:33
Any cheap girl-friendly hotels in Manila, Angeles, Cebu, and places between Cebu and Manila? I'm not looking for luxury. Just a hotel that I can bring a girl back to.
You should probably be more specific where Manila is concerned. That is like asking somebody what hotel you should stay in in New York. But anyway. It appears from this board that most mongers stay in 1 of 2 places in Manila. Makati or Ermita/Malate. Makati is more of a trendy place. Whenever I meet a Filipina outside of Philippines and ask what part of Manila they are from, they always say Makati, although most probably aren't from there anyway. I have only stayed in Makati twice. To me everything is spread out there. I prefer Ermita where I walk everywhere.
That being said, I will tell you the hotels that were recommended to me from people on this board when I first went to those particular cities. Manila, Ermita: CityState Hotel. Cebu: Diplomat Hotel. Angeles: Pacific Breeze Hotel. More info on hotels can be found in the hotels thread.
- Any good brothels that the locals use where there are zero westerners? Kind of like fishbowls? Again, nothing pops up on search.No there aren't any cheap brothels. If there were we would all be using them. For cheap fucks you will have to try skanky SW's, like around Taft on Edsa. Better to stick to LA cafe and bargain your ass off.
LivingFossil
09-18-19, 22:29
"I coordinated with a girlfriend I already had in Manila. Through the web, I found a girl willing to freelance and go on vacation with me as long as I took care of her."
Confused you already knew her or you found her on the internet?
I have always wanted to do this how did you find this girl exactly? Bi girls are hard to find. You can PM me.
I came up with a process that worked really well, and I thought I should give back to the community.
I coordinated with a girlfriend I already had in Manila. Through the web, I found a girl willing to freelance and go on vacation with me as long as I took care of her.
I got us a two bedroom AirBNB which we turned into a party house. She had her room and I had mine. We both picked freelance up girls. I was able to use her skill with Tagalog to negotiate better prices. We took girls home and had threesomes on most nights of the week. We had a lot of luck, especially at L. A. Cafe.
Even better, my girl had a few contacts that wanted to get a piece of a foreigner, and I was happy to oblige them..
Wicked Roger
09-19-19, 05:31
"I coordinated with a girlfriend I already had in Manila. Through the web, I found a girl willing to freelance and go on vacation with me as long as I took care of her."
Confused you already knew her or you found her on the internet?
I have always wanted to do this how did you find this girl exactly? Bi girls are hard to find. You can PM me.Bi girls are easy to find as I know some in most cities.
It is how you ask, what you ask etc. I have had bi sisters more than once and no issues in finding them. Friends who visit Manila see a couple of pairs depending on time, place and price.
The other one is easy too. Just find a few you like, see what they do and if not working ask if want an all expenses paid vacation. What is hard in that?
Wicked Roger
09-19-19, 05:37
I'll be coming to the Philippines for the first time soon. I'm flying into Manila, staying for a week and a half, and flying back out from Manila. I plan to do some traveling through the country as well like to Cebu and the like.
Unfortunately, I'm on a budget, and I have a lot of social anxiety so the loud bar scene really makes me uncomfortable. I also am extremely allergic to alcohol.
I was hoping that you guys could give me some tips:
I normally try and find brothels or online sex websites that the locals use because those have the best prices, but I've never done an overnight at a hotel I've stayed at..If you use the advanced search tab and type in fishbowl you will find many examples.
And a RTFF back a few pages would show you what you want.
Assume this mean no clubs where the hotties hand out either? So no bars, no clubs, and any BJ places too noisy and serve alcohol so best stick to escort site and pay the price but your budget does not allow escort site girls (you would know this via a RTFF).
FLs yes but then best RTFF about the scams as many mentioned by mongers on this board and looks like you need someone to hold you hand in case you get arrested.
As Mr E noted there is a hotel thread for Manila and Cebu (plus a separate Cebu thread) so look there but your budget will compromise you given all the allergies your have I think.
Soapy Smith
09-19-19, 08:48
Unfortunately, I'm on a budget, and I have a lot of social anxiety so the loud bar scene really makes me uncomfortable. I also am extremely allergic to alcohol.
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- Any cheap girl-friendly hotels in Manila, Angeles, Cebu, and places between Cebu and Manila? I'm not looking for luxury. Just a hotel that I can bring a girl back to.
- Am I correct in assuming that overnight should be PHP 2500 or less? Short time is PHP 1500 or less? And streetwalkers can be as low as PHP 500?
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- Any good brothels that the locals use where there are zero westerners? Kind of like fishbowls? Again, nothing pops up on search.You have posted useful field reports in the Cambodia forum and deserve some decent feedback. If the bar scene makes you uncomfortable, there's a thread here for people giving notice that they will be in country. Why not use it to look for a wingman, especially somebody with experience in the Phils? The bars will gladly serve you soda, iced tea, or bottled water. Assume that recovering alcoholics frequent this forum and the bars in the Philippines, and nobody will think twice about a customer drinking non-alcoholic stuff.
Mr. E described two principal red-light districts, Makati and Ermita / Malate. There are others, but you have to work harder within them. Like Mr. E, I have spent lots more time in Ermita than Makati. In Makati, Café Havana is a business in Greenbelt 3, at least in the past, right beside Seattle's Best Coffee. Greenbelt is a mall set out in five buildings with a green park area in the middle. Freelancers hang out in the seating area outside the café, but communications may be little more than winks and smiles, because they don't want to be run off by the businesses. Beware of ladyboys hanging out at the fringes of the area. You might like this café area because it's not a loud bar scene. Padre Burgos Street in Northern Makati, just off Makati Avenue, is the other principal area in Makati. The bars there have a bunch of dancers and working girls, but as recent field reports show, they're not cheap. Some guys report picking up cheaper street girls on Burgos. Lots of useful reports in the Makati thread.
Makati is the financial district; parts of Ermita, on the other hand, can be pretty dirty. Be careful, don't wear jewelry, and carry only enough money for food, drinks, and taxi if you need it. Walk confidently but always pay attention to your surroundings. A principal destination here is LA Café. Even if you don't like bars, every man should experience this meat market at least once. These are all freelancers, many are ugly, but with patience you can find some gems. Read back through the Manila thread for field reports from LA Café. I've always liked the place, but others see nothing but ugliness there. Prices here are probably a little higher than you suggested in your post, but don't be afraid to negotiate. This is a good place to go with a wingman.
Another, much quieter Ermita bar is the G-Point. Many fewer women here, and I have been told the management discourages open soliciting. But there's no question there are freelancers here. You might be able to lure one to your table with an offer of food. Food's not great, but the servings are huge, and the women here will not turn up their noses at it. There are a few other smaller bars in Ermita with freelancers, but you need to spend time reading the forum to learn about them. Another place to look in Ermita is Robinson's Place Mall. Just walk around and make eye contact with unaccompanied women. If they smile, they're probably available, because good Filipinas don't flirt with Westerners. Smile back; sometimes they will greet you. This is a giveaway. Just start talking to them. There are also freelancers in the streets near Robinson's Place. Same tactics.
There may be some cheap brothels, and there are definitely some freelancer bars in other districts that are cheaper, but they are usually for locals only. But the options in Makati and Ermita are well described in the threads for Makati and Manila. No reason to settle for a blowjob when it's so easy to get laid in the Philippines, and most who will fuck will also give you a BJ if you ask. Hotels are invariably girl friendly. Check out reports in the hotels thread, spend some time looking at Google Maps to locate these redlight districts, and then do some research on one of the lodging websites like Agoda.
Obviously do some research for Cebu and AC in those threads. Final advice: relax, get laid as much as you can, and leave some field reports for others. And remember, most of these women speak enough English to make communication a lot easier and many will give you a real girlfriend experience.
I'll be coming to the Philippines for the first time soon. I'm flying into Manila, staying for a week and a half, and flying back out from Manila. I plan to do some traveling through the country as well like to Cebu and the like.
Unfortunately, I'm on a budget, and I have a lot of social anxiety so the loud bar scene really makes me uncomfortable. I also am extremely allergic to alcohol.
I was hoping that you guys could give me some tips:
I normally try and find brothels or online sex websites that the locals use because those have the best prices, but I've never done an overnight at a hotel I've stayed at.
- Any cheap girl-friendly hotels in Manila, Angeles, Cebu, and places between Cebu and Manila? I'm not looking for luxury. Just a hotel that I can bring a girl back to.
- Am I correct in assuming that overnight should be PHP 2500 or less? Short time is PHP 1500 or less? And streetwalkers can be as low as PHP 500?
- Are there any cheap blowjob bars in these cities? Search doesn't seem to turn up anything, so I guess BJ bars or Hoc Tocs aren't a thing?
- Any good brothels that the locals use where there are zero westerners? Kind of like fishbowls? Again, nothing pops up on search.Have you considered looking online? Pina Love and Philippine Cupid have many girls in your price range. The 'near me' apps like WeChat etc can also be good and very quick but just be careful of Lady Boys. They also don't require any exposure to alcohol, loud clubs etc.
You will struggle to find a Phil hotel that is not girl friendly. Just use the map and price features of Agoda to select where and $$$ that suit you.
Like for like you will find Cebu cheaper than Manila and the province cities are cheaper again.
Good luck. G.
Guys if you don't want to end up like this guy don't forget to use your condom.
https://filipinotimes.net/news/2019/08/07/filipina-killed-retired-australian-cop-subic-found-pregnant/?fbclid=IwAR0fOdOjZuaMmY46ijatug9NYKo68uZxa4N8ZPWtIS7KUEtNfagPGuxKudU
Chocha Monger
09-20-19, 01:53
Guys if you don't want to end up like this guy don't forget to use your condom.
https://filipinotimes.net/news/2019/08/07/filipina-killed-retired-australian-cop-subic-found-pregnant/?fbclid=IwAR0fOdOjZuaMmY46ijatug9NYKo68uZxa4N8ZPWtIS7KUEtNfagPGuxKudUIt doesn't appear that he forgot to use his condoms. He was deliberately riding his Filipina girlfriend bareback cum-in-pussy. He bred her once before and they had a one-year-old kid. It was only after the seconding breeding that problems arose concerning the custody of the first bundle of joy.
Perhaps, he should have taken a hint from the local trike drivers and fellow Aussies. Cum and run!
One hotel kept my ID and I forgot to collect it when I checked out. I discovered the missing passport when I was in the taxi on the way to the airport. I called and made the hotel staff bring it to me in a taxi because I didn't have time for the round trip. Luckily the hotel's number as on their receipt. (keep your receipts). Stressful.There is no reason for the hotel to keep your passport. They could make a photocopy of the relevant pages. That is done with my passport on many occasions.
Staying near Robinson Place and want to go to and back from here to Angeles. Is the easiest option (bus wise) going to the Terminal 3 and catching Genesis bus from there or seeing I am in Malate is there somewhere I can jump on as it goes past?
Appreciate.
Staying near Robinson Place and want to go to and back from here to Angeles. Is the easiest option (bus wise) going to the Terminal 3 and catching Genesis bus from there or seeing I am in Malate is there somewhere I can jump on as it goes past?
Appreciate.There is a whole thread dedicated to AC transportation from Manila; it is located below the line on the main PI page. Lots of useful info there.
Edit: that is mainly for transportation from the airport, sorry.
Shining Wit
09-22-19, 17:03
Staying near Robinson Place and want to go to and back from here to Angeles. Is the easiest option (bus wise) going to the Terminal 3 and catching Genesis bus from there or seeing I am in Malate is there somewhere I can jump on as it goes past?
Appreciate.I stay in Malate (Ermita, actually) and use the bus to Subic, but as most of these services do not actually serve Angeles, my suggestion is rather more generic.
I would suggest searching on Google Maps or similar for 'Earnshaw Street Sampaloc' and 'Caloocan' and zoom in / out until the little blue markers appear. These represent the individual companies' bus terminals. Then you can go to the individual company's website although timetables might be rather sparse. Angeles is more likely to be listed as Clark, Dau or Mabalacat.
The reason I recommend these areas is that they are relatively close to Malate but to the north, so the congestion of Manila is lessened.
Staying near Robinson Place and want to go to and back from here to Angeles. Is the easiest option (bus wise) going to the Terminal 3 and catching Genesis bus from there or seeing I am in Malate is there somewhere I can jump on as it goes past?
Appreciate.I had a girl come to makati from Angeles. She took 5 star bus to Pasay terminal then taxi. Try google search for manila bus terminals for genesis and 5 star. Both run manila / angeles. I would try anything besides going back to airport. It is in the wrong direction for you so waste of your time to go there not to mention the terminal traffic.
Mr Enternational
09-22-19, 17:17
Staying near Robinson Place and want to go to and back from here to Angeles. Is the easiest option (bus wise) going to the Terminal 3 and catching Genesis bus from there or seeing I am in Malate is there somewhere I can jump on as it goes past?
Appreciate.Take a taxi to one of the other bus stations in Pasay that go to Dau. No need to go all the way back to the airport to take a bus that goes damn near the same place for almost 3 times as much money.
Staying near Robinson Place and want to go to and back from here to Angeles. Is the easiest option (bus wise) going to the Terminal 3 and catching Genesis bus from there or seeing I am in Malate is there somewhere I can jump on as it goes past?
Appreciate.You can take Victory Liner from Pasay.
One option is Fly the Bus from Southern Cross Hotel. It's across the street from the Ermita Chapel.
1125 M. H. Del Pilar St.
Manila to Angeles.
11.30 am – 3. 30 pm – 8. 30 pm.
Staying near Robinson Place and want to go to and back from here to Angeles. Is the easiest option (bus wise) going to the Terminal 3 and catching Genesis bus from there or seeing I am in Malate is there somewhere I can jump on as it goes past?
Appreciate.
Blanquiceleste
09-23-19, 01:08
Take a taxi to one of the other bus stations in Pasay that go to Dau. No need to go all the way back to the airport to take a bus that goes damn near the same place for almost 3 times as much money.What happened to those mini buses from Swagman? Do they still operate?
It's been a while since writing any reports. Mainly because I've been doing much of the same thing, Brazil and Colombia. I spent a week in Australia to snorkel at the Great Barrier Reef, which was great and decided to hit the Philippines before coming home to L. A. I took Philippine airlines and it was actually cheaper doing a multi- city route than going directly to Australia. I did go business class and the service was great on all flights. Thanks to everyone who has contributed. I didn't feel the need to pm anyone because of all the information here. I have been to Angeles city once before but this trip I was going to stay in Makati and Pasay so it felt like I was going for the first time. The nervousness. LOL. From Brisbane I landed at Manila Terminal 2. Like all reports, this airport is whacked! Just getting from Terminal 2 to 3 sucked. Waited for the terminal to terminal bus. One came after about a 25 minute wait. The bus driver told me his bus was only going to terminal 1. After a while a premium bus (which was a newer and bigger bus than the terminal to terminal bus) stopped in front of us and asked if we want to take his bus but it would cost $150 p. Three of us said yes but when the third person tried to get on, she said she only had credit cards no cash. Bus driver said sorry but no. Anyways, I'm sure this guys isn't supposed to pickup people at the t to t stop, but for someone new, it might be worth the risk to go to the premium bus stop to see if he'll take you to the terminal you want. We get to T3 at about 17:00. As I approach gate 14 I see the Genesis bus and the guys is just about ready to close the luggage door. He see's me and asked if I was going to Sm Clark. I said yes, he took my suitcase and loaded it in the luggage compartment. The bus now cost $380 p. And since this was Thursday, I knew there would be traffic. It took 4 hours to get to Sm Clark. On the way back, which was on a Sunday, it took 2 hours total. I stayed 3 night in Angeles, 3 nights in Makati, and finished off with 2 nights in Pasay.
I thought there was a section for Pasay but I guess not, so I'll write it here. Last two nights in the Phillipines. Around 19:00 the rain is coming down lightly so decided to walk to edsa entertainment center. Everything was good until I was a block away. All of a sudden a massive downpour. What made it worst, strong winds. I had my umbrella but with the winds I got soaked. My shoes were wet, my t-shirt looked like someone threw a bucket of water on me. Anyways, as soon as I walk in the main door a guys tries to get me into one of the bars. I told him not yet. I want to walk around a bit to try and dry off (didn't happen). It was early so Samba's wasn't open yet so after a while I walked into one of the bars that was open. I was the only one in there. By the time I left I went into 3 bars but can't remember the names of the bars I went into. For my taste, overall talent was very good. To be fair, in Makati, I went early for the h / h and I know most of the prine stuff comes in at night. Finally at one of the bars I see a cute girl, not as cute as Leia at Bottoms but she would do. Buy her a drink and ask the usual about cost of barfines and girl. Her name is Coleen and it was at one of the bars on the right hand side. Sorry I know that doesn't help. The barfine which she told me was standard at all the bars here was $2500 p. With short time for the girl at $3000 p and long time at $5000. I told her I only want short time so bar fined her and had a great time. Walking out of the center one of the taxi guys ask if we wanted a ride. I asked him how much? He said $300 p which I knew was a rippoff. But it was raining hard, I was soaked and some of the taxi's I saw on the streets in traffic had passengers in it. So told him yes. The session was great, passionate kissing, BBBJ DATY and different positions. After the deed and shower, I asked her if she wanted to get some pizza since there was a pizza place downstairs. She said yes and had a great time talking. She asked when I would be back. I told her probably not until next year. I asked her if she wanted to see me again and she said yes. I then asked her if she wanted to vacation with me next time, maybe go to somewhere with a nice beach. She was very excited and wanted to give me her phone number. I left my phone in the room since this place was downstairs. She ask the server for a pen and wrote her number down. I folded it and put it in my back pocket. Got her a taxi and again, a nice sloppy kiss to say goodnight. Next day, I unfold the paper to find out the last two numbers got smudge. Just my luck. Last day. My plan was to visit flt 168 and later go back to the edsa center if not tired. Get to flt168 around 15:00. At this hour the price for business class or whatever they call it, it's on the ground floor, is $2000 p for the room and $2000 p for the girl. I told the guy I wanted to see the girls upstairs also. No problem, took the escalators up and on this floor it was only $900 for the room, didn't get the price for the girls here. Didn't really see anything I liked on both floors but since I was here decided to bite the bullet and see what happens. Took number 111 who looked decent but nothing else. Get to the room and in a few minutes she arrives. She said we have an hour and 15 minutes. She would start with a massage, sexy massage, then the main event. We shower together and then the massage starts. Nothing great, nothing bad. Then she said she would start the sexy massage. I thought she would be kissing me all over but that wasn't the case. It was pretty lame. For the main event, no kissing no DATY. She did do BBBJ which was okay. At this time I just wanted to finish and get out. Needless to say, this wasn't how I wanted my last shag to go but sometimes it happens. After the session I went to Solaire hotel and casino to play a little. They had craps there and even though I lost about $80.00 usd I played for about 2 hours which was fun. Then I ate at one of the resturants there, I think it was called Lucky something. Has the Pork Belly rice special and was really good. I believe it was $420 p for the meal. I was thinking about going back to edsa to forget about the time at flt 168 but two things changed my mind. I was going to shower at my hotel before going but it took a while to get there with all of the traffic. Second the rain and wind was bad. Will have to wait until next year if I come back.
Mr Enternational
09-23-19, 17:55
Anyways, I'm sure this guys isn't supposed to pickup people at the t to t stop, but for someone new, it might be worth the risk to go to the premium bus stop to see if he'll take you to the terminal you want. I always take that bus. It comes at the same stop as the other bus. I think the difference is maybe that the premium has AC. What city did you go to for the Great Barrier Reef and what company did you use? Was it worth it? I hear it is not like it used to be.
Staying one night here in Eastwood area any suggestions for local place near or best place.
In the mall for pickups? Thank you.
The premium bus that picked us up actually had a designated stop one island before the t to t stop but at least now, people know about it. I stayed in Cairns and one all day tour was with sea-star. This was a good company but the food kind of sucked. They provide all the gear. I only snorkel but you can also dive with them, but cost more. I also took a half day tour but I can't remember the name of the company. This tour was just okay, but I didn't want to be out all day that day.
Couple of months ago I was wondering which destination to travel to in SEA. Aim was to get my Open Water Padi Certification and obviously, some beautiful Filipinos to goof around with.
I reached out to Mr E, Goferring, Transporter and a few other folks asking for advice and most of them responded immediately. Surprisingly, all 3 of them gave me the same suggestion I. E. Sabang. Initially I was a little sceptical due to the high priced flights during my travel dates and decided not to go further with it. But I read through some of the posts on Sabang and realized that I should rather change my travel dates or increase my budget a little to ensure that I visit Sabang, since it is definitely one of the best place to learn diving. I am visiting in the 1st week of January and needed help on some of the below queries. Some may argue that I am reaching out too early but I really want to make all reservations and plan my itinerary at least 2 months in advance.
1. A good dive centre that offers a certification. Ideally not too expensive. I sent an email to the centre that Mr E had shared but there was no response from their end. I don't mind staying at the same place if their accommodation is girl friendly.
2. A good spa: Would love to go for a good massage and sauna after diving through the day. Some authentic spas that offers variety of treatments, scrubs, etc. Won't mind an upscale one also. Extras would be a delight but certainly not expected from such a setup.
3. Local commute: What is the best mode to commute locally without spending a lot. I read about bike rentals. Can someone point me towards a good operator.
4. I read a few reports stating that there are multiple Gogo's in Sabang where the ongoing BF rates are around 4 k. Is this just the bar fine or is it inclusive of ST / LT? I won't ask which bar which girl since most of the information is already shared and I know people hate spoon feeding.
5. What is the possibility of getting a decent looking freelancer below 30 yrs of age and making her stay with me for 3-4 days at a lesser price. I am not a variety seeking person. If a decent looking hygienic girl can give me a good GFE, I won't mind repeating her for a few days. I am stressing on this because I am currently inexperienced in picking girls through GOGO's. I am quite presentable and certainly not a cheap charlie but no past GOGO experience that's all.
6. Lastly, I am thinking to spend a day or 2 in Manilla as well. Thinking to avoid AC as I don't want to waste time traveling. Really want to meet a stunner for long time who can ensure a great GFE. I am willing to spend up to 8-10 k PHP for such an experience. Again a ton of information available on the Manilla thread, just need time to process all that. But any existing free lancer contact would be an added bonus. Otherwise I will RTFF and try my luck in Burgos st.
Hoping to get some valuable pointers and sorry for such a long query. But I don't shy away from accepting the fact that I am a noob when it comes to Philippines and want to be fully prepared to ensure I have more hits than misses. Overall trip budget is around 65-70 k php for 6 days excluding flights.
Special thanks to EngineDriver, Natty, Mr E, Transporter, Goferring, Soapy and definitely New Image (If you hadn't posted so many queries on Sabang, this thread wouldn't be having enough information for noobs like me). You guys have literally shared an ocean of information which is very different from Indian threads where information is shared within closed circles as Law Enforcement is strict and new mongers are quite irresponsible. I would love to help you all unconditionally if you ever plan to travel to New Delhi or Bangalore.
Mr Enternational
09-26-19, 15:53
1. A good dive centre that offers a certification. Ideally not too expensive. I sent an email to the centre that Mr E had shared but there was no response from their end. I don't mind staying at the same place if their accommodation is girl friendly.That is typical for dive shops, resorts, and hotels in the Philippines. You may have to call them. I booked a shop in Bohol some years ago. When I got there they did not have my reservation. I showed them a copy of all the emails back and forth of me telling them what kind of room I wanted and what dives I wanted to do. They sent me back the price and I said okay. The fucking ladyboy said I did not RECONFIRM. I asked what kind of bullshit is that? How many times do we have to go back and forth about me wanting a room and to dive with your shop? Too many times it is just pure incompetence in that country.
2. A good spa: Would love to go for a good massage and sauna after diving through the day.
3. Local commute: What is the best mode to commute locally without spending a lot. I read about bike rentals. Can someone point me towards a good operator.
5. What is the possibility of getting a decent looking freelancer below 30 yrs of age and making her stay with me for 3-4 days at a lesser price.What you are not realizing is that Sabang is a really small place. No idea how many massage places are there because I did not use any. But if I had to guess, then I would say 2. Not really anyone to point you to to rent a bike. You just walk down the street and see who has them for rent. The only reason we rented one was to drive to see the waterfall. After that, we drove over to White Beach to see it and eat, then came back and turned it in. Any other place that you may go in the town will only be a short walk.
If you are looking for FL then I suggest you bring one with you from Manila. I am not sure if such a thing exists in Sabang. Before I went, I met a nonpro on DateInAsia that made the trip with me.
To give you a better idea of the place, imagine a seashore, part of it having a beach. Right behind that shore are hills and mountains. There is a small road carved into those mountains that contain grocery store, a couple of restaurants, a couple of bars, i.e. things that make a town run. That is pretty much Sabang. Even the dive resort that I stayed in is right on the shore, but to get to your room you have to walk up a bunch of steps because the mountain comes right up from the seashore. Farther down the shore is a beach with white sand hence the name White Beach. There were a couple of bars and restaurants and hotels on the White Beach side as well. I don't think you can walk there down the shore. You have to go around and through the mountains to get on that side.
Couple of months ago I was wondering which destination to travel to in SEA. Aim was to get my Open Water Padi Certification and obviously, some beautiful Filipinos to goof around with.If you are looking for cheap, girl friendly accommodation with onsite dive training it's hard to go past Big Apple. Don't expect luxury. It's getting quite run down but it's in a fantastic location right in the centre of the activity, has everything onsite and is the meeting place for all the freelancers in town. Booking both rooms and training via their website is reliable.
There are spas and massage places peppered all through town. All offer the same quality and level of services and are unlikely to include "extras". Most masseuses are well trained and capable but if you find one you especially like then you can request her by name in follow up visits. Often they will do hotel / room visits but will charge more.
E is right. Sabang is small. All of it and 3 of the nearby bays are all within easy walking distance. Many trikes are available for runs in to Puerto Galera should you want or need to go. Same for the waterfalls. You can hire a motorbike if you want but they are notorious for ripping people off with fake damage scams etc so take the usual precautions if you use one for a longer trip. You certainly don't need one for daily use though.
The 4 k barfine is actually 2 k barfine payable before leaving and 2 k tip paid to the girl after finished. As a new face, you will be asked but do not pay the full 4 k upfront. This is generally LT but agree with the girl on services and time before leaving. Most are pretty good on not trying to do a one pop runner but it does happen, more so in the K (or now Chinese) dominated bars.
Freelancers come and go depending on the local attitudes. There are regular sweeps which clear the FLs out when the bars tire of all the competition but a month or so later they are all back. Just check local conditions when you are actually there. If you don't see any in Big Apple, then they have been cleared out of town. Keeping one for a few days even "rolling" barfining someone from a bar will be no problem. Cost savings over just a couple of days will be minimal.
No need to be nervous about the GoGo process. It's very simple. Just walk in, sit down and order a drink. If you see or are offered a girl (s) you like then you can by her a lady drink and talk a little to see if you are comparable. There is no need to buy all her friends drinks. If you like her, pay 2 k to release her from the bar then another 2 k after you have finished in your room. Don't feel like you are under pressure. It perfectly acceptable to not buy any LDs if you don't see anyone you like or buy a LD and then not bar fine if you don't want to take it further. For your first night you might want to have a drink in every bar just to get the vibe of the place and see which bar (s) you like the best. You could easily cover every bar in Sabang in a couple of hours and then return to your favorite (s). Again, this is all on foot.
The bars do start early. Some at just 6 pm and are notorious for being emptied of all the stunners by Koreans by 6:15. This should not concern you as the girls involved are very K or Chinese focused and generally give hopeless and only ST service anyway. Just go, have a look but act quick should you find someone you like.
As a newbie, in Manila for a day or two, with a 10 k budget, just go to Burgos. It has many beautiful and service focused girls who will show you a great time. Internet or freelance girls are less than half of that but you don't have time to sort the good from the bad.
Enjoy. G.
Couple of months ago I was wondering which destination to travel to in SEA. Aim was to get my Open Water Padi Certification and obviously, some beautiful Filipinos to goof around with.
definitely New Image (If you hadn't posted so many queries on Sabang, this thread wouldn't be having enough information for noobs like me). You guys have literally shared an ocean of information which is very different from Indian threads where information is shared within closed circles as Law Enforcement is strict and new mongers are quite irresponsible. I would love to help you all unconditionally if you ever plan to travel to New Delhi or Bangalore.I ask lots of questions cause knowledge is power and when I am there I write lengthy reports to help others. Eg So you want to bang bang Sabang reports Hopefully people appreciate.
In response Sabang would be your go to place for diving & girls. Yes now its harder to get to because they won't allow bancas direct to Sabang port but they go to Muelle (Port Gal) or white beach. A quick trike ride and you are at bang bang Sabang.
Yes bar fines are 4000 (pretty expensive for Phil) but you can negotiate after work or before work meetings. Unfort perf is not great BUT I found a very good provider and we had wonderful GFE time together.As people said Sabang is small you can walk everywhere which I like. I stay 2 minutes walk from bars and dive shops. Diving is excellent and cheap. Food good, accom good but competition from cashed up Koreans is crap.Why maybe my last trip. Partly judging hassle of getting there, judging perf vs money (other places are much cheaper) and been there done that. Doing a Manila- Angeles. Sabang - Manila ( Burgos ) trip in Dec so stay tuned for lengthy reports. Unfort in Sabang if you are not diving not much to do. I mean young guys can fuck all day. I can't. LOL.
Engine Driver
09-27-19, 04:22
Couple of months ago I was wondering which destination to travel to in SEA. Aim was to get my Open Water Padi Certification and obviously, some beautiful Filipinos to goof around with.
.This whole discussion belongs in the "Other Areas" thread, not the Manila thread. Perhaps Abhi would be kind enough to shift it.
1. If you are coming from India, there is no way the Big Apple will meet your expectations. It is a run down shit hole, full of old drunks and toothless hags. It will suit poor Aussie, working class or pensioner mongers. The British dive master and the Australian owner of the Big Apple are alcoholics. You should avoid this place. Why not go to Sabang a day early and check out the dive shops before handing over your money? Interview the dive master, check out the equipment and get a feel for the place. Some dive places are exclusively Korean or Chinese.
2. There are six massage parlours in Sabang, all Korean owned. They are completely legitimate and don't offer any extras. Best to not even ask as you may look foolish. Many of the girls have Korean boyfriends. The best massage I had in Sabang was by the lady that threads beads and weaves bracelets. She has a stall on the ground outside one of the hotels. If she asks "Massage Sir?" just say yes.
3. You won't need any transport in Sabang. Everything you need is no more than 300 meters away.
4. You will find freelancers of varying standards walking up and down the pathway outside Big Apple. If one catches your eye, just grab her. 2,500 per night should be enough. You may also try PL or FC.
5. If you want to go to the bikini bars, start lining up at 5. 30 pm. The doors open at 6. 00 pm. By 6. 01 pm, the Koreans have grabbed all the hottest girls. At 6. 02 pm half the club will be empty. Only the ugly ones or those on menstruation duty will be left.
6. Sabang exists for the Koreans and Chinese, more so than AC. You just have to stay focused on your own task and not be distracted.
7. Your budget may be a bit tight. I would always bring more money.
Please send us a report and some pictures of the new shitfarm. It might have been commissioned by the time you go. I'm very interested.
there is no way the Big Apple will meet your expectations. It is a run down shit holeI'd agree the Big Apple is a shit hole but it's a shit hole with character and its location is hard to beat with access to all the bars, freelancers, floating bars and daily conveniences less than a 5 minute walk away. Anything can and does go in the bar, hotel and pool so if the OP want to be entertained, give it consideration; if he wants a vanilla flavoured safe haven then you are right and he should give it a miss.
2. There are six massage parlours in Sabang, all Korean owned. They are completely legitimate and don't offer any extras.
Very true for us visitors who may shoot off our mouths and get the girls fired. Long term Resident Dive Masters / Instructors often get Full Service.
4. You will find freelancers of varying standards walking up and down the pathway outside Big Apple. If one catches your eye, just grab her. 2,500 per night should be enough. You may also try PL or FC.During the day there are a lot of bar girls walking around town meeting friends and doing their chores. Many can be convinced to drop by for a pre work ST. Again, the front barstools at the Big Apple make a good vantage spot to see everyone walking by as you have a drink or meal.
6. Sabang exists for the Koreans and Chinese, more so than AC. You just have to stay focused on your own task and not be distracted.Unfortunately this is becoming more and more the case over time. The result has been an increase in the number of very good looking girls but a decrease in service standards and the overall "fun" atmosphere.
7. Your budget may be a bit tight. I would always bring more money.That can be said about any and every mongering holiday. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Guys,
Need some suggestions and help.
Through PL I have met a person and going steady with her. She's had multiple relationships in the past and didn't work out for various reasons.
We have had sex and I always use a condom. Now she's insisting that we should have sex without condom. I don't know whether it's worth the risk, and wondering how to proceed. She's separated not legally and has children. Are there strict rules on having intimate relationship with married women. What should I be prepared for?
Really appreciate response / advice.
Si.
Re Sabang: Big Apple. Sabang central. Good place to sit & peruse. Food for me ok. Shithole is a bit rough IMO. We've all been in worse. Don't book before you go. See what's available when you get there dive wise. Negotiate one against another when you are there- best deal wins or one you feel most comfortable with.
GFE will be your biggest hassle. Not all bars are created equal. Not that many doable FL ers around when I was there. You WILL have to pay for quality GFE. But negotiate with girl for extended rental. Keep eye out during the day for pre work and post work WG sessions. Why pay 4000 when you can get for 2000. Need to get into the habit of interviewing and negotiating. Just do it. Lay down the ground rules and expected behaviours. Be prepared to walk if you get negative feedback. There are PLENTY.
Re Burgos / Manila. Let Wechat etc be your friend. Not a fan of dating sites. A lot changes in a day. Sit in a cafe. They come to you- you interview and negotiate.
Re money. When you get to 80 would you rather have an extra 50 k in your bank account or great memories of the hot 19 year olds that you fucked in the Philippines? (Now 50 k US = 2,500,000 peso = 625 bar fines at 4000 peso each LOL).
NI.
Guys,
Need some suggestions and help.
Through PL I have met a person and going steady with her. She's had multiple relationships in the past and didn't work out for various reasons.
We have had sex and I always use a condom. Now she's insisting that we should have sex without condom. I don't know whether it's worth the risk, and wondering how to proceed. She's separated not legally and has children. Are there strict rules on having intimate relationship with married women. What should I be prepared for?
Really appreciate response / advice.
Si.Life is a game and there are no guarantees. I had one former lovely 24 year old that after a few months discovered that she had Hep be since birth. Fortunately I had previously had a full Hep be vac course.
As a regular Filipina fucker for many years I was always using a condom until one girl convinced me that if I was serious on her, then it's without a condom. She already had one child and she was meticulously taking contraception pill. Was with her for two+ years.
As disciplined as I try to be, it is just so much better going BB with a trusted partner.
During my time in Ph I had 2 rounds of STI which were cured on home soil, 1 time was my straying, the 2nd time as my 'trusted' partner playing away from home.
Of greatest concern for me would be contraception.
PP.
Run fast and run far.
Guys,
Now she's insisting that we should have sex without condom.
Si.
Guys,
Need some suggestions and help.
Through PL I have met a person and going steady with her. She's had multiple relationships in the past and didn't work out for various reasons.
We have had sex and I always use a condom. Now she's insisting that we should have sex without condom. I don't know whether it's worth the risk, and wondering how to proceed. She's separated not legally and has children. Are there strict rules on having intimate relationship with married women. What should I be prepared for?
Really appreciate response / advice.
Si.Comes down to your judgement call. If she truly is just a regular mom then I would say risk of contracting something is manageable. But I would never go bareback with a working girl, not worth it for me. But there are tons of mongerers who frequently or exclusively play bareback. And also the more reprehensible ones who coerce their girls (often uneducated on the risks) into doing it with them.
Think about it this way, do you really want to be sharing a girl bareback with one of those bareback allstars who has himself pounded over a hundred working girls? With 6 degrees of separation you can bet your last dime somewhere along the line there is HIV and though the risk of transmission from one interaction is low, ask yourself if its worth it.
5. What is the possibility of getting a decent looking freelancer below 30 yrs of age and making her stay with me for 3-4 days at a lesser price. I am not a variety seeking person. If a decent looking hygienic girl can give me a good GFE, I won't mind repeating her for a few days. I am stressing on this because I am currently inexperienced in picking girls through GOGO's. I am quite presentable and certainly not a cheap charlie but no past GOGO experience that's all.Don't do this. You will form an attachment and start sending her money once you go home. I speak from experience. Men are weak, men are idiots.
That is typical for dive shops, resorts, and hotels in the Philippines. You may have to call them. I booked a shop in Bohol some years ago. When I got there they did not have my reservation. I showed them a copy of all the emails back and forth of me telling them what kind of room I wanted and what dives I wanted to do. They sent me back the price and I said okay. The fucking ladyboy said I did not RECONFIRM. I asked what kind of bullshit is that? How many times do we have to go back and forth about me wanting a room and to dive with your shop? Too many times it is just pure incompetence in that country.Thanks Mr E. Let me call them and inquire once again. Also as ED mentioned, I will try and keep an extra day just to roam around and checkout the dive shops.
The 4 k barfine is actually 2 k barfine payable before leaving and 2 k tip paid to the girl after finished. As a new face, you will be asked but do not pay the full 4 k upfront. This is generally LT but agree with the girl on services and time before leaving. Most are pretty good on not trying to do a one pop runner but it does happen, more so in the K (or now Chinese) dominated bars.
Freelancers come and go depending on the local attitudes. There are regular sweeps which clear the FLsNo need to be nervous about the GoGo process. It's very simple. Just walk in, sit down and order a drink. If you see or are offered a girl (s) you like then you can by her a lady drink and talk a little to see if you are comparable. There is no need to buy all her friends drinks. If you like her, pay 2 k to release her from the bar then another 2 k after you have finished in your room. Don't feel like you are under pressure. It perfectly acceptable to not buy any LDs if you don't see anyone you like or buy a LD and then not bar fine if you don't want to take it further. For your first night you might want to have a drink in every bar just to get the vibe of the place and see which bar (s) you like the best. You could easily cover every bar in Sabang in a couple o
Enjoy. G.I would avoid staying at Big Apple. But as you mentioned, it might be a good place to sit around for drinks and look out for potential FLs. I might want to choose a better place to stay and dive. Also thanks for giving me confidence on GOGOs. Looks like this is an experience I must have. I will try in Sabang as well as in Manilla. Hope to beat some Koreans to find a stunner LOL. But yes will go easy and display confidence. That newbie look gets you conned most of the times.
tition from cashed up Koreans is crap.Why maybe my last trip. Partly judging hassle of getting there, judging perf vs money (other places are much cheaper) and been there done that. Doing a Manila- Angeles. Sabang - Manila ( Burgos ) trip in Dec so stay tuned for lengthy reports. Unfort in Sabang if you are not diving not much to do. I mean young guys can fuck all day. I can't. LOL.Looking forward for some crazy reports from your end NI. I would do the same once I finish my trip. I love to write descriptive reports. Thanks to all the folks who shared their valuable inputs.
Please send us a report and some pictures of the new shitfarm. It might have been commissioned by the time you go. I'm very interested.Definitely ED. Will try and share as many reports and images as possible.
What's the consensus on girls roaming around Burgos offering cheap massages for 500 p? I saw them around last night but hesitated because the price is so cheap. Are they safe?
Can anyone with experience at Flight 168 let me know if it is worth getting the more expensive room in Flight 168?
Can anyone with experience at Flight 168 let me know if it is worth getting the more expensive room in Flight 168?Haven't been there in a while but generally not worth the extra, but that is just an opinion and opinions are like assholes.
Everyone has at least one and some stink more than others.
WestCoast1
09-29-19, 23:20
What's the consensus on girls roaming around Burgos offering cheap massages for 500 p? I saw them around last night but hesitated because the price is so cheap. Are they safe?Sammi: PM me, I might have some insight for you.
That is typical for dive shops, resorts, and hotels in the Philippines. You may have to call them. I booked a shop in Bohol some years ago. When I got there they did not have my reservation. I showed them a copy of all the emails back and forth of me telling them what kind of room I wanted and what dives I wanted to do. They sent me back the price and I said okay. The fucking ladyboy said I did not RECONFIRM. I asked what kind of bullshit is that? How many times do we have to go back and forth about me wanting a room and to dive with your shop? Too many times it is just pure incompetence in that country.
....In more than 20 years of diving, that is the norm for dive shops everywhere, here is a little worse. You have to ask them many times to get a straight answer on when a dive trip is scheduled, customer service is universally poor.
It might be that they rely on tourist business where there is not always a lot of repeat customers and always a supply of new potential customers, but I think it is because dive shops are usually run by people with a few thousand dives and on some of these they may have run a little low on oxygen.
It might be that they rely on tourist business where there is not always a lot of repeat customers and always a supply of new potential customers, but I think it is because dive shops are usually run by people with a few thousand dives and on some of these they may have run a little low on oxygen.I know many professional dive shops. BUT, I know more that are little more than slave labour camps for unknowing backpackers or a social experiment by guys that enjoy the sea and think it would be a great way to lay back and get paid for their hobby (like the alcoholic who thinks it's a great idea to set up a bar in AC / Patts).
Enjoy. G.
What's the consensus on girls roaming around Burgos offering cheap massages for 500 p? I saw them around last night but hesitated because the price is so cheap. Are they safe?Def safe but they will want more money for more services. DO the deal before you go with the. Most will come to your room but some otels like Makati palace won't let the uniformed ones come in. They can change clothes usually. If you go with the, you will find yourself behind a curtained cubicle and they will take everything off or do whatever you want for the agreed price. If you even get a hint that they are a ladyboy avoid them like the plague. They will pinch your money, rip you off or worse (like show you their dick).
Are there any places in Manila with good looking girls that have rooms on site? I'm staying at City Garden which is right next to Burgos so I should probably just bring the girl back here but I'm a bit precious about the hotel staff and the other people in the lobby. CGG seems to always have people milling about the lobby and they have the slowest lifts that make you wait ages for them!
All I've heard about from reading is Amazonia, which appears to be closed now?
Are there any places in Manila with good looking girls that have rooms on site? I'm staying at City Garden which is right next to Burgos so I should probably just bring the girl back here but I'm a bit precious about the hotel staff and the other people in the lobby. CGG seems to always have people milling about the lobby and they have the slowest lifts that make you wait ages for them!
All I've heard about from reading is Amazonia, which appears to be closed now?No one cares about you being with any number of girls, after all that is why everyone is there. The hotels around burgos would go out of business except for mongers.
Mr Enternational
09-30-19, 23:32
Def safe but they will want more money for more services. DO the deal before you go with the. Most will come to your room but some otels like Makati palace won't let the uniformed ones come in.What is up with that weird shit? My exgirlfriend works at a massage shop in AC. Last time the hotel that I always stay in, and that she has been to plenty of times before after work, did not want to let her in when she had on her work clothes.
Are there any places in Manila with good looking girls that have rooms on site?As mentioned, everyone will be bringing girls back to the hotel.
But if you don't want then use the short time Sogo hotel which is central, rented per hour and is nice and clean.
I spent 9/14- 9/23 in Sabang and the place was so dead I couldn't believe it. Maybe this is the slow season but at night where the clubs are you could shoot an arrow down the narrow alley and not hit a soul. Comment about the barfines. Most of the bars are 4 K but there was one and the name escapes me that was 3.5 K (2.0 bar /1.5 girl). Anyway I had a girl a few nights from there that told her boss that she was quitting like today Monday. It happened to be the next day after we met that she quit to work. We were scene together a couple of nights later having dinner and the mamasan / bar manager literally were demanding the BF of 2 K from her. She said I quit the bar blah blah didn't matter. I didn't want to see her get caught up in a pile so I paid the BF myself for the couple of days. I was in one bar where they made an announcement to the effect that if a girl saw another girl out with a customer after the bar closes she would get a reward as they would make the girl with the customer pay up the barfine. All the girls I spoke with say yes Koreans and Chinese but overall business is way off. I do like to dive thus the reason I go there and will probably try to get back in Feb 2020 it will be interesting to see if the overall business picks up.
Engine Driver
10-01-19, 06:58
Are there any places in Manila with good looking girls that have rooms on site? I'm staying at City Garden which is right next to Burgos so I should probably just bring the girl back here but I'm a bit precious about the hotel staff and the other people in the lobby. CGG seems to always have people milling about the lobby and they have the slowest lifts that make you wait ages for them!
All I've heard about from reading is Amazonia, which appears to be closed now?Oh FFS, the CGG is in the mongering end of Makati. That, the St Giles and I'M Hotel have all been designed and built just for mongers. Their target customers are not families with children on their way to Disneyland Manila. They EXPECT you to take a girl up. The only way you would attract attention is if you DIDN'T take a girl. They would then think you were a homo / poofter / queer.
Wicked Roger
10-01-19, 07:08
Are there any places in Manila with good looking girls that have rooms on site? I'm staying at City Garden which is right next to Burgos so I should probably just bring the girl back here but I'm a bit precious about the hotel staff and the other people in the lobby. CGG seems to always have people milling about the lobby and they have the slowest lifts that make you wait ages for them!
All I've heard about from reading is Amazonia, which appears to be closed now?Well apart from what ED and KG said, if you had bothered to RTFF for 10 minutes you would know all the answers.
But failing that PM me so I can share contacts as can't do this openly on the board.
Look forward to the PM.
Engine Driver
10-01-19, 07:11
What is up with that weird shit? My exgirlfriend works at a massage shop in AC. Last time the hotel that I always stay in, and that she has been to plenty of times before after work, did not want to let her in when she had on her work clothes.They do not want her competing against their own in-house hotel massage service. She would be perfectly welcome to enter if she stripped down to her bra and panties. She just can't enter wearing massage girl scrubs. That's Phils logic.
Are there any places in Manila with good looking girls that have rooms on site? I'm staying at City Garden which is right next to Burgos so I should probably just bring the girl back here but I'm a bit precious about the hotel staff and the other people in the lobby. CGG seems to always have people milling about the lobby and they have the slowest lifts that make you wait ages for them!
All I've heard about from reading is Amazonia, which appears to be closed now?I have stayed at City Garden before. I did not bring a girl to my room. How ever having had brunch and dinner I could see most of the guests were Filipinos. Older couples and families. I would not say this is a monger hotel though it may be girl friendly.
The restaurant food was very good.
Engine Driver
10-01-19, 07:45
Are there any places in Manila with good looking girls that have rooms on site?Yes, there are. Just jump in a cab and tell the driver to take you to a Casa. He will most likely take you to the famous one in the western part of Makati, a short drive away. There you will find over 100 good looking girls, with rooms on site. Please try this and report back.
The other option is the full service brothel attached to Air Force One in Paranaque.
Engine Driver
10-01-19, 11:19
I have stayed at City Garden before. I did not bring a girl to my room. How ever having had brunch and dinner I could see most of the guests were Filipinos. Older couples and families. I would not say this is a monger hotel though it may be girl friendly.
The restaurant food was very good.The City Garden Hotel is different to the City Garden Grand Hotel. One is grand and one is not.
Are there any places in Manila with good looking girls that have rooms on site? I'm staying at City Garden which is right next to Burgos so I should probably just bring the girl back here but I'm a bit precious about the hotel staff and the other people in the lobby. CGG seems to always have people milling about the lobby and they have the slowest lifts that make you wait ages for them!
All I've heard about from reading is Amazonia, which appears to be closed now?Why are you so precious? Have you heard the quotes "What anybody thinks of me is none of my business" or "97% of people don't like me and I 100% don't care".
Why are you so precious? Have you heard the quotes "What anybody thinks of me is none of my business" or "97% of people don't like me and I 100% don't care".Hahaha. True.
See all the old guys in the lobby that Radian is embarrassed by? Who exactly does he think they are waiting for? It's not their Bridge partner. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
10-01-19, 15:49
They EXPECT you to take a girl up. The only way you would attract attention is if you DIDN'T take a girl.This is true. In Angeles City before you go out, the receptionists even wish you good luck finding a girl.
See all the old guys in the lobby that Radian is embarrassed by? Who exactly does he think they are waiting for? It's not their Bridge partner.They will be jealous that his girl got there before theirs. How did your girl get here so damn quick?
The City Garden Hotel is different to the City Garden Grand Hotel. One is grand and one is not.I believe the hotel he and I are referring to is City Garden Suites located on Mabini Street across from Cowboy Grill.
Why are you so precious? Have you heard the quotes "What anybody thinks of me is none of my business" or "97% of people don't like me and I 100% don't care".I stopped caring what people thought of me when I realized how seldom they did.
I stopped caring what people thought of me when I realized how seldom they did.Come to realize that everyone else is worried about themselves so they haven't got time to worry about you.
Besides your partner and (maybe your family) when some one tells you about something bad in their life how long do you care about it for? Probably about the time to say " Oh that's bad". Now what's for lunch?
Empathy is dead.
Shining Wit
10-02-19, 16:34
I believe the hotel he and I are referring to is City Garden Suites located on Mabini Street across from Cowboy Grill.OP did say City Garden near Burgos St. And I recall there is or was a hotel of that name in that area, as well as the City Garden Grande.
CGS was certainly girl friendly up to and including my last stay there in November, but as DG says, they have a lot of wedding reception / college reunion type stuff.
I have met mongerers there but I suspect most use cheaper options for that neighbourhood.
What is up with that weird shit? My exgirlfriend works at a massage shop in AC. Last time the hotel that I always stay in, and that she has been to plenty of times before after work, did not want to let her in when she had on her work clothes.I think its just in the places that have their own massage staff.
PolyOrchid
10-03-19, 02:11
Why are you so precious? Have you heard the quotes "What anybody thinks of me is none of my business" or "97% of people don't like me and I 100% don't care".Or this, mate, from dear old Oscar Wilde: "I have no enemies, but most of my friends despise me. ".
Don't do this. You will form an attachment and start sending her money .............Or end up marrying her.
Come to realize that everyone else is worried about themselves so they haven't got time to worry about you.
Besides your partner and (maybe your family) when some one tells you about something bad in their life how long do you care about it for? .....The only people in the world whose opinion of me I really care about share about 50% DNA with me. I can count them on one hand and have a thumb left over.
Empathy is dead but I don't give a flying fuck.
Come to realize that everyone else is worried about themselves so they haven't got time to worry about you.
Besides your partner and (maybe your family) when some one tells you about something bad in their life how long do you care about it for? Probably about the time to say " Oh that's bad". Now what's for lunch?
Empathy is dead.Never thought of this issue from this perspective before, I like it! Thanks.
Never thought of this issue from this perspective before, I like it! Thanks.I work in a high stress job where I deal with many people. Many of them are not receptive to my help despite their situation and this would frustrate me immensely. I used to think why can't I get through to them.
One day someone said something profound to me. Just try to help one person each day and if you've done that you have done your job. He also said if you can make just one person happy each day or do one good deed to another person each day then you are a good person. You may not be able to change the world but you can change someone else's life.
I guess its all about perspective.
NI.
Mr Enternational
10-05-19, 12:27
I work in a high stress job where I deal with many people. Many of them are not receptive to my help despite their situation and this would frustrate me immensely. I used to think why can't I get through to them.
One day someone said something profound to me. Just try to help one person each day and if you've done that you have done your job. He also said if you can make just one person happy each day or do one good deed to another person each day then you are a good person. You may not be able to change the world but you can change someone else's life.
I guess its all about perspective.And mine is fuck these crazy ass people!
SoberHans69
10-06-19, 18:36
First ever night in Philippines off to a good start.
After I landed and got WiFi, found out my hotel in Malate had cancelled on me due to lack of credit card info on Agoda which is bullshit.
Went to P. Burgos street and wasn't my thing.
Went to la cafe which I really liked until I Waitress tried to rip my off for my change. Trying to give me 40 peso change for a come zero and Jack coke.
Took a girl from there who upon getting to the room realized how drunk she was.
She started throwing up in the toilet so I told her to leave. She wanted full payment so I told her where to go. Had to get security to get her out. Told her she could have taxi money or nothing. She eventually left cursing me.
Off to Angeles tomorrow, can only get better I hope.
Incognito Mode
10-11-19, 05:08
I will be visiting early next month and in need of a wingman / wingmen to show me a bit of the town. Of course I have RTFF and have a few ideas of where to go but I also want to venture out of the well-worn foreigner areas if possible. Message me guys! 1st and 2nd round on me!
Flight 168 is definitely a full service bordello. The setup is very similar to a high end BKK Soapie. Basically, they offer customers a couple of different fishbowls each composed of different quality or different rated girls and Flight 168 prices their girls accordingly.
The total cost (girl and room) in Flight 168 is between 5,000 p and 7,500 p. The bill is prepaid like at a BKK Soapy. But like I said, at Flight 168 the bill is broken down into its two component parts so you are charged for the room whichever room you select and charged for the girl whichever category girl you select. Credit cards are accepted. Tips to a girl for good service are voluntary, of course, but greatly appreciated.
Have a great time!One thing I would add about Flight 168 (or pegasus, or classmates, etc) is that you want 2 pops to speak up before you start the deed (but after you enter the private room). In my experience, most girls are alright with 1,000 php for the first in addition to the standard 2,000 php tip. However, the first shot may be limited to just BJ so up to you to negotiate. Also to minimize haggling, I would also suggest that as you speak to the front desk person (either before or after you pick from the fishbowl) to say I've been here before and please tell the girl it's 2,000 php for tip. It's a pretty standard tip so really no need to pay more regardless of the type of room you pick. This is just from what I've learned from Filipino friends. As a caveat, I also get harassed less for a bigger tip because I'm of Asian descent but am American so YMMV. It's OK to firm and confident when talking about prices but just don't be jerk when doing so.
I know this post is probably too late but I'm a new member so contributing what I can. Hopefully this will help other members for the future.
Koperen Klaas
10-18-19, 20:01
I have stayed at City Garden before. I did not bring a girl to my room. How ever having had brunch and dinner I could see most of the guests were Filipinos. Older couples and families. I would not say this is a monger hotel though it may be girl friendly.
The restaurant food was very good.Many of the older people staying at hotels don't have a clue what's going on.
I have mentioned the example some years ago: I once stayed at the Ibis Slipi hotel in Jakarta. Nearby there was a golf tournament and the organisation had arranged company for the players for the night. The next morning of course there were a lot of fond goodbyes at the front door which caused an elderly lady to say how remarkable it was that so many men were married to Indonesian women. She said it without any irony.
Regards,
Ko.
December I will be visiting places I have abandoned in recent years.
Burgos St, yonks ago, had a Show Place bar. Choreographer, and girls really turned it on. Excellent entertainment, so much so, guys forgot to barfine and of course wanted to partake of the showgirls themselves.
Problem is, I forget its name. Is there a bar in Burgos St with a red hot 'show' these days? Might be the same one I visited some time ago. Thanks.
December I will be visiting places I have abandoned in recent years.
Burgos St, yonks ago, had a Show Place bar. Choreographer, and girls really turned it on. Excellent entertainment, so much so, guys forgot to barfine and of course wanted to partake of the showgirls themselves.
Problem is, I forget its name. Is there a bar in Burgos St with a red hot 'show' these days? Might be the same one I visited some time ago. Thanks.I'm not aware of any 3rd party shows on Burgos beyond the house girls doing the bar girl shuffle up on stage.
As an aside, I'd recommend leaving fond memories as just those rather than trying to relive the past. People, locations and attitudes have changed and if you forcibly try to recreate the past, you will be disappointed. My best times have been spontaneous and the more I try to seek out or revisit good times the less successful I am.
Have a great trip. G.
I'm not aware of any 3rd party shows on Burgos beyond the house girls doing the bar girl shuffle up on stage.
As an aside, I'd recommend leaving fond memories as just those rather than trying to relive the past. People, locations and attitudes have changed and if you forcibly try to recreate the past, you will be disappointed. My best times have been spontaneous and the more I try to seek out or revisit good times the less successful I am.
Have a great trip. G.Oh, I don't forcibly try to recreate anything. I go with the flow. I can tell you now. Life begins at 80 years of age. Why? Cause you do not give a stuff, anymore. Go with the flow time. Never married, never indulged in drugs, never have taken Viagra or similar. I do not pay for Viagra to get an erection for a girl I have to pay to open her legs. Doesn't make sense to me.
Well, thanks for answering my query, will save me going to Manila and Burgos St.
Fun, its got to be fun.
WestCoast1
10-20-19, 16:31
Burgos St, yonks ago, had a Show Place bar. Choreographer, and girls really turned it on. Excellent entertainment, so much so, guys forgot to barfine and of course wanted to partake of the showgirls themselves.
Problem is, I forget its name. Is there a bar in Burgos St with a red hot 'show' these days? Might be the same one I visited some time ago. Thanks.Stardust possibly. Closed several years ago.
Stardust possibly. Closed several years ago.The name does not ring a bell. But I have 'hidden camera' video of it all, anyway.
Brings a smile to my face and triggers all the good times I had back in the day.
In Manila 23-25 Oct. Then Cebu for following week. Any wingman around ti show a newbie the way.
Burgos St, yonks ago, had a Show Place bar. Choreographer, and girls really turned it on. Excellent entertainment, so much so, guys forgot to barfine and of course wanted to partake of the showgirls themselves.
Problem is, I forget its name. Is there a bar in Burgos St with a red hot 'show' these days? Might be the same one I visited some time ago. Thanks.Jools Cabaret (5403 P. Burgos).
Jools Cabaret (5403 P. Burgos).That's it!
Jools. Hiqh quality stuff, some time ago. Hope its the same nowadays.
Thanks for that.
Member #4698
10-21-19, 18:33
Jools has been around a long time. Yes, they have quality, well rehearsed shows. One night a few years ago I saw their dancers perform to a medley of James Bond songs. It was quite a good show. Sadly however, the sexy little hostess girl I was drinking and making out with the whole night would not in the end barfine. She gave me her telephone number, but I never bothered to call her. She was a sexy little thing and her auntie was one of the dancers. I never went back to Jools after that night. Guess I was a little let down or something. Ha Ha.
A few months ago I heard they were closing their doors. I don't know if this is true or not and I don't really care.
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Stardust, on the other hand, was a more fun bar for me. They had a troupe of professional dancers too and IMHO, the Stardust dancers were a lot hotter. I lusted after a couple of them, but they were an allusive lot and I failed to make a connection. However, the stardust bar girls were a lot of fun in their own right too and the bar girls had the ability and talent, if you know what I mean, of taking my mind off the smokin' hot dancers whom I really wanted. It was sort of like the immortal Rolling Stones song:
"You can't always get what you want, But if you try sometime you find, You get what you need."
Only in this case I didn't have to try at all. As a result, I was never disappointed when I went to Stardust and always found a nice bar girl to take home. So, I was surprised and a little blue when I heard they were closing their doors. I thought Stardust was one of the better bars on Burgos just beneath Kojax, Plan B, and Bottoms in terms of bar girl quality, but it was also appropriately priced less than those 3 top tier bars, so I thought it held a good price point position on the street. Guess I was wrong. LOL.
..................Stardust, on the other hand, was a more fun bar for me. They had .........................Thanks for that. Well I will try Stardust first, then my old mate Jools (if 'Dust does not satisfy).
And report back, comparing the two as at December 2019.
Stardust fun? Then I have to give it priority and see it first, LOL.
Jools has been around a long time. Yes, they have quality, well rehearsed shows. One night a few years ago I saw their dancers perform to a medley of James Bond songs. It was quite a good show. Sadly however, the sexy little hostess girl I was drinking and making out with the whole night would not in the end barfine. She gave me her telephone number, but I never bothered to call her. She was a sexy little thing and her auntie was one of the dancers. I never went back to Jools after that night. Guess I was a little let down or something. Ha Ha.
A few months ago I heard they were closing their doors. I don't know if this is true or not and I don't really care.I can confirm that one of the dancers at Jools told me they will close at the end of this year.
Member #4698
10-22-19, 02:07
Stardust fun? Then I have to give it priority and see it first, LOL.Stardust was fun. Now it is closed. Furthermore Issaquah has just confirmed that Jools will close shortly. Somewhat an end of an era I suppose except they still have a number of bars on Fields in AC with dancers that put on shows. You probably know about them already.
And then there are the big international clubs (KTV's) along the bay with runways, shows, lots & lots of very pretty girls (dancers), private rooms, ect ect. Places like Air Force One, Liberty Island, Universe Girl Club. The names of some may have changed since I was last there, but the business model is always the same. These places are very expensive and somewhat similar to gentlemen clubs in BKK like the Pimp Club and much more entertaining IMHO than Jools ever was. Unfortunately, plan on spending 10,000 p or more with no guarantees you are going to get laid if you decide to go to one of these clubs.
Lastly, I think you would enjoy the Samba Club over in the EDSA Entertainment Complex. It is really just a regular Go Go bar except they have solo dancers taking turns on the stage. All the girls at Samba barfine. I found a real nice one there last time I was in town. I barfined her twice.
WestCoast1
10-22-19, 05:43
Stardust, on the other hand, was a more fun bar for me. They had a troupe of professional dancers too and IMHO, the Stardust dancers were a lot hotterSome of my Manila regulars are former Stardust premier dancers and have graced the Phils PG. Three other Stardust dancers are currently gogo bar massage girls in other Burgos bars. SD was a great low-cost barfine place. Getting the top-tier dancers to barfine was quite a trick.
Is there a place to buy legit Viagra in Makati area? I have a doctors note from my hotel doctor and they are happy to buy the medicine for me as well but their quoted cost is 1036 P per pill which I think is pretty high. Does this seem right? When I questioned them, they said that is the going price at both Mercury drug and Watsons. Unless I go generic, this is the price to pay. Can any of you confirm that this is the going price for a pill of Viagra 100 MG or should I go to a different pharmacy with my prescription?
Oops! Thanks for info folks. Nothing stays the same. Adapting to change is the key to success.
Bars are still a source of fun for me, but dating sites are the go nowadays it seems. Got to have patience for that, something I do not have a lot of.
Whichever one, fun, fun.
Member #4698
10-22-19, 20:57
Some of my Manila regulars are former Stardust premier dancers and have graced the Phils PG. Three other Stardust dancers are currently gogo bar massage girls in other Burgos bars. SD was a great low-cost barfine place. Getting the top-tier dancers to barfine was quite a trick.Your telling me, ha ha. I tried to get 2 of those Stardust dancers and failed. Kudos to you for succeeding.
I can confirm that one of the dancers at Jools told me they will close at the end of this year.Any intel that comes via a bargirl should always be considered to be dodgy. IME.
A) Any person running a business is not going to pre-warn staff. Many staff would jump ship for other employment.
B) bargirls are not in the decision making business.
PP.
Lastly, I think you would enjoy the Samba Club over in the EDSA Entertainment Complex. It is really just a regular Go Go bar except they have solo dancers taking turns on the stage. All the girls at Samba barfine. I found a real nice one there last time I was in town. I barfined her twice.Possible to divulge what you pay at Samba? Will be heading to EDSA in a couple weeks, first time!
Member #4698
10-24-19, 21:36
Possible to divulge what you pay at Samba? Will be heading to EDSA in a couple weeks, first time!Sure, no problem. I paid 2500 p for the barfine and 2500 p to the girl. Samba is good bar with few real pretty girls. The owner is Italian I think. I met him one night. You should also check out Firehouse and Pitstop to see if you prefer any of their girls. EDSA is a friendly environment. All the bars are housed under the same roof.
Sure, no problem. I paid 2500 p for the barfine and 2500 p to the girl. Samba is good bar with few real pretty girls. The owner is Italian I think. I met him one night. You should also check out Firehouse and Pitstop to see if you prefer any of their girls. EDSA is a friendly environment. All the bars are housed under the same roof.Awesome man! There's a video on youtube of the place and it looks like good fun. Will definitely check out the places you mentioned.
For anyone who is knowledgeable about EDSA, what's the best time to go to ensure that the best ones haven't been taken already?
Awesome man! There's a video on youtube of the place and it looks like good fun. Will definitely check out the places you mentioned.
For anyone who is knowledgeable about EDSA, what's the best time to go to ensure that the best ones haven't been taken already?7-7:30. But even then, a lot of guys have already reserved the best ones.
Soapy Smith
10-28-19, 02:17
Is there a place to buy legit Viagra in Makati area? I have a doctors note from my hotel doctor and they are happy to buy the medicine for me as well but their quoted cost is 1036 P per pill which I think is pretty high. Does this seem right? When I questioned them, they said that is the going price at both Mercury drug and Watsons. Unless I go generic, this is the price to pay. Can any of you confirm that this is the going price for a pill of Viagra 100 MG or should I go to a different pharmacy with my prescription?There's a blog thread at the bottom of the Phils board about the Viagra dialogue. Although the last post was two months ago, there should be lots of good info there. Better yet, check out guys who have posted there and pm them. They'd probably give you details.
Is there a place to buy legit Viagra in Makati area? I have a doctors note from my hotel doctor and they are happy to buy the medicine for me as well but their quoted cost is 1036 P per pill which I think is pretty high. Does this seem right? When I questioned them, they said that is the going price at both Mercury drug and Watsons. Unless I go generic, this is the price to pay. Can any of you confirm that this is the going price for a pill of Viagra 100 MG or should I go to a different pharmacy with my prescription?Sounds high for the brand name. Suggest you go yourself to the pharmacy or better yet, just go generic.
ShinyCrazy
11-01-19, 23:03
I read the last several years worth of posts in preparation for my first trip to Manila and created a summary for myself by cutting and pasting posts from dozens of people. Thought that other first-timers might find this useful.
MANILA. GENERAL MONGERING INFO.
Two principal red-light districts in Manila, Makati (Burgos) and Ermita / Malate (EDSA). Makati is the financial center of Manila. Ermita is a bit sketchy. There are in fact 2 different price levels in Manila; in Burgos bars and EDSA you have to spend a total of around 6000 peso to get a girl LT. This is very high price for a third world country like Philippines, but the quality especially in some Burgos bars is really high and according to most reports also their performance in bed is top class. Freelancers in bars like LA Cafe, Havana Cafe, streets, other bars etc. Can be had for 1500 - 2500 peso LT. There is no need to pay any more and you HAVE to negotiate. I have pulled girls from bars and street and also Havana but I always start or counter with 1500 LT. If they decline I move on to the next one. I understand that if you meet a real diamond you want to stretch the budget, but if you are caucasian and not too old there is no need to pay more than 3000 peso LT no matter how hot the girl might be.
Hotels: Fairmont (first choice) and Peninsula Hotels (2nd) and Shanghai-La (3rd) are high end and guest friendly.
Grab is best, Uber doesn't work. Taxis may actually be cheaper.
https://dreamtravelonpoints.com/how-to-use-grab-at-manila-airport-and-in-manila/
WeChat or Viber for texting.
For most high quality girls, plan to give at least 3000 pesos for all night.
5000 pesos = $96 USD.
4000 = $77.
3000 = $57.
2000 = $38.
1000 = $19.
MAKATI (BURGOS).
BURGOS STREET (higher price 6000 LT total): Kojax / XOXO (best looking? PlanB (tall slim girls?) and Bottoms (buxom girls with best in bar action?) are the top 3 clubs in P. Burgos Street. Also, look in Mirrors and Tickles.
There are another dozen or so clubs on this street. But the quality and quantity won't be as good. When I was here last, I had a great time in Kojax and PlanB. There is another sister club of Kojax named XOXO, where the girls share duties through the week. XOXO is on the ground floor and Kojax is on Level 1. Now on to pricing. The barfine at Kojax, XOXO and PlanB is set at 3500 pesos. The girl will expect another 3000 - 4000 pesos for her company and services. It is wise to discuss everything upfront to avoid an uncomfortable and disappointing exchange later. Drinks at the club are priced at 300 pesos I think, can't remember now. So you are looking at a total of 10 k pesos on a single night. Mirrors bar is also very good with beautiful girls and has happy hour with half price bar fine of 1950 (from 2-7 pm). Lower optics at Dimples and Bourbon (but still might be worth a look), which also have happy hour pricing. Went to Tickles and it was crazy as usual. 4 or 5 girls mobbing every guy, drinking, petting, grinding, and xxx if you wanted for drinks and tips. Asked about taking two girls but the mama wouldn't give a discount (3500 each for the bar plus 3000 tip each plus 1000 bar tab).
Costs for a Burgos bar girl in sequential order:
1. SML for monger = 200 PHP.
2. Lady drink for candidate 1 = 390 PHP.
3. Another lady drink for candidate 1 or for candidate 2 = 390 PHP.
4. Bar fine = 3,900 PHP.
5. Tips for waitress and mamasan = 100 PHP.
6. Dinner for girl after 1st pop = 1,200 PHP.
7. Girls payment LT = 4,000 PHP.
8. Girls taxi money = 200 PHP.
That makes a grand total of 10,380 PHP. In South Sea Pesos that's $346 or USD $207.
System: Buy one drink for yourself at minimum. If you want female company, you are expected to buy her a lady drink, which costs 2-4 times the price of your drink. If you want to take her home, you have to pay the bar fine, which is 10 times the cost of a lady drink. You can deduct the cost of lady drinks from the bar fine. BUT MAKE SURE YOU ASK THE MAMASAN FIRST. For example a common lady drink price is 390. The bar fine would be 3900. If you buy her 10 lady drinks, then the bar fine is waived. If you buy her 5 lady drinks, then 1950 is deducted from the bar fine. She will stay until morning, and you also have to pay her a tip between 2000-5000 depending on the girl. Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights are the best.
FREELANCERS NEAR BURGOS: Royal nightclub near Burgos is good for FL Called "freelance heaven". (3000 LT). XYLO at the Palace nightclub is good for younger FL.
https://www.thepalacemanila.com/xylo/
GREENBELT 3: (lower price 1500-2500 LT) Cafe Havana is a business in Greenbelt 3 right beside Seattle's Best Coffee. Greenbelt is a mall set out in five buildings with a green park area in the middle. Freelancers hang out in the seating area outside the café, but communications may be little more than winks and smiles, because they don't want to be run off by the businesses. Beware of ladyboys hanging out at the fringes of the area. You might like this café area because it's not a loud bar scene. Also, near Glorietta's and opposite Shangri-la and the area near Starbucks is a freelance scene. P1500/2000 all night full sex.
ERMITA / MALATE (EDSA).
EDSA (higher price 5000 LT): A lot quieter than P Burgos and you will get a lot more attention from everyone. From my experience hands down hottest girls I found to be at EDSA, which opens at 7 pm. It's far from Makati which sucks. Best bar in EDSA is Cotton Club. I liked Firehouse and the Samba Club. Samba has gogo dancing. Great girls and slightly less expensive than my favorite 3 Burgos Bars.
LA CAFE (lower price 1500 LT-2500 LT): Parts of Ermita can be pretty dirty. Be careful, don't wear jewelry, and carry only enough money for food, drinks, and taxi if you need it. Walk confidently but always pay attention to your surroundings. A principal destination here is LA Café. Even if you don't like bars, every man should experience this meat market at least once. These are all freelancers, many are ugly, but with patience you can find some gems. Read back through the Manila thread for field reports from LA Café. I've always liked the place, but others see nothing but ugliness there. Prices here are probably a little higher than you suggested in your post, but don't be afraid to negotiate. This is a good place to go with a wingman. LA CAFE is cheapest and place of last resort. I don't particularly like LA Cafe, but it is a scene. My advice would be to take a look in LA Cafe around 1 am after you have barfined and enjoyed a ST session with an EDSA bar girl first. LA Cafe upstairs is much better. The price level at LA Cafe (among the cheapest in Manila): I always quote 1500 pesos and 80% of the girls will say OK. Some will not budge under 2000 peso, but they stay all night. I have actually never met a girl in LA Cafe that do ST. If the chemistry is reasonably good and she do not have work in the morning she will be happy to stay all night and share a breakfast with you in the morning. Do not forget that these girls are desperate for money.
ABACCA MASSAGE: Mabini Street, Malate. Walking distance from LA Cafe. Abacca Spa. 90 min with prostate massage 1200 p.
G POINT BAR: Many fewer women here, and I have been told the management discourages open soliciting. But there's no question there are freelancers here. You might be able to lure one to your table with an offer of food. Food's not great, but the servings are huge, and the women here will not turn up their noses at it. There are a few other smaller bars in Ermita with freelancers, but you need to spend time reading the forum to learn about them.
ROBINSON'S PLACE MALL: Near Starbuck's. Sitting at the tables at the railing, facing the atrium and upwards escalator, are 2 large, white columns (one on either side of the escalators). The mama and her girls are usually at the white column on your left as you face the escalator. She shows 11 am-12 noon, the only day she is not there is Sundays. She is hard to miss, she is flamboyant, late 30's, chubby, short light brown-reddish hair. She approaches many unaccompanied white men as they pass, and she will follow them up the escalator. She hugs, she cajoles, she insists you get her phone number (or give yours to her for an instant txt). If you have communication apps she can send you pics of her many girls. She usually has 2-3 girls standing in the atrium area (not necessarily at the white columns), often standing together between the white column and Starbucks. If both / all of her girls are gone with customers she has more in reserve on her phone (with pics). Also, just walk around and make eye contact with unaccompanied women. If they smile, they're probably available, because good Filipinas don't flirt with Westerners. Smile back; sometimes they will greet you. This is a giveaway. Just start talking to them.
NEAR THE AIRPORT.
Flight 168 Massage.
Flight 168 is definitely a full service bordello. The setup is very similar to a high end BKK Soapie. Basically, they offer customers a couple of different fishbowls each composed of different quality or different rated girls and Flight 168 prices their girls accordingly.
Customers also have a choice in the quality of room where they take the girl. I forget the names, but it's something like 1st class, executive class, and coach class. The 1st class rooms all have jacuzzi tubs. When I was last there the VIP class girls where located on the ground floor fishbowl, one floor beneath Airforce 1 and next to Flight 168's lounge area. 168's regular girls where somewhere else. All customers must enter the building and walk through the lobby of Airforce 1 in order to proceed to Flight 168. There will be a friendly host in the AF1 lobby to greet you and show you where you want to go.
I recommend that you take a look at the 1st class girl's fishbowl. It is not like they are all hot, but usually there are 2 or 3 girls that shine above the rest and more than meet my spec. And shagging a good-looking girl is the whole point of visiting a place like this if you ask me. The best time to come is around 7 pm to have the opportunity to select from widest assortment the prime-time girls. There used to be an early bird 1/2 price discount if you come before 5 pm. I don't know if that is still in effect. I think it might be.
Service in the 1st class rooms includes soapy jacuzzi time, BBBJ's, and covered sex on the bed. DFK, DATY & 69 depend on the girl and the vibe you establish with her. Service in the cheaper room is the same as in the more expensive room except that there will not be any jacuzzi fun time and the beds are smaller. I have had great sessions and just ok sessions in Flight 168, so no guarantees, but I never had a bad session. Thus I give the place a thumbs up and recommend it to you. I will add, however, that the hottest girls are in AF 1 not Flight 168. Ha Ha. But AF 1 does not get started until late and you better be prepared to spend well over 12,000 p if you want to shag an AF 1 girl.
The total cost (girl and room) in Flight 168 is between 5,000 p and 7,500 p. The bill is prepaid like at a BKK Soapy. But like I said, at Flight 168 the bill is broken down into its two component parts so you are charged for the room whichever room you select and charged for the girl whichever category girl you select. Credit cards are accepted. Tips to a girl for good service are voluntary, of course, but greatly appreciated.
Flight 168 also has a lounge area so you can relax before, after, or in between a session. They serve a buffet at certain times and a la carte food items at other times although it is not cheap. Any type liquor is obviously available. In any case, it would be very easy to spend 4 or 5 hours or longer in this bordello and shag a couple of girls while waiting for a flight. Depending on your flight times, I imagine an outside hotel might not be needed.
One thing I would add about Flight 168 (or pegasus, or classmates, etc) is that you want 2 pops to speak up before you start the deed (but after you enter the private room). In my experience, most girls are alright with 1,000 php for the first in addition to the standard 2,000 php tip. However, the first shot may be limited to just BJ so up to you to negotiate. Also to minimize haggling, I would also suggest that as you speak to the front desk person (either before or after you pick from the fishbowl) to say I've been here before and please tell the girl it's 2,000 php for tip. It's a pretty standard tip so really no need to pay more regardless of the type of room you pick.
AREAS TO EXPLORE.
Quezon Ave area: Kremlin Spa, Sylvanus Health Club, Heartbeat Mega KTV, Pegasus KTV, Classmate nightclub, QC Bar KTV.
ShinyCrazy
11-01-19, 23:05
Not sure what is allowed on the forum with regards to links, so posting these separately from my cut-and-paste first timers guide:
ESCORTS.
https://smooci.com/manila
https://m.locanto.ph/m/Women-Looking-for-Men/20702/
https://manilacourtesans.com
https://www.escortsmanila.com
https://m.manilaescorts.me/
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ShinyCrazy
11-01-19, 23:07
Again, not sure which links are allowed.
https://boracaycompass.com/nightlife-guide/
https://www.philippinesredcat.com
http://www.manilasexguide.com
https://asiasexscene.com/sex-in-the-philippines/manila-escorts-sex-guide/
https://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Manila
https://www.********************.com/manila-sex-guide.html
http://www.philippinesexguide.com/
https://goodbyeboringlife.com/philippines-sex-guide-for-beginners/
https://manilatonight.com
http://rockitreports.com/category/sex-in-the-philippines/
https://www.budgetagency.org/adult-manila-sex-vacations.html
Very thorough study. To add a few more: price level might slight higher, cotton club in EDSA has closed but you can still find quite a few bars over there. Enjoy your visit!
I read the last several years worth of posts in preparation for my first trip to Manila and created a summary for myself by cutting and pasting posts from dozens of people. Thought that other first-timers might find this useful.
Quezon Ave area: Kremlin Spa, Sylvanus Health Club, Heartbeat Mega KTV, Pegasus KTV, Classmate nightclub, QC Bar KTV.
Although I am a newbie on this forum, I am a senior member in my local area, with over 100 posts, so I have contributed much to my hometown.
I will be in the Philippines early next year and in preparation, I have not only RTFF, but cut and pasted many, many report excerpts for future reference. Having said that, it doesn't mean I don't have a stupid questions or three. Mainly because I can't find the specific answer to the question I have. Hopefully you guys can help.
Although I have never been (yet), I have a feeling that I may want to try working towards retiring there if I can make it happen, but I have much to learn and only 3 weeks to absorb as much info as I can while I am there.
Among the several questions I will be posting in the near future are:
1. Suggested itinerary.
I am not only going there to monger, but would like to be able to supplement my sightseeing itinerary with it. I have a mind to fly out from Manila the day after I arrive to Palawan, where I plan to visit El Nido, Port Barton and one or two other island in the area I haven't decided on yet. I am not sure how much time I should allocate to this.
From there to Negros to see White Beach and maybe a few other spots, then to Bohol, Cebu area and Sirgao. I will fly back to Manila with the plan to spend several days of pure mongering before flying back to Georgia.
I would like to know what itinerary you experienced guys would suggest to a newbie arriving on a Monday in Feb on a 3 week stay?
2. Time allocation /'winging' it.
I know that some areas of the Phil specifically want you to submit your itinerary before boarding a plane for that destination, but I want to be able to 'wing it' per se. I may fall in love with a certain area and decide to stay a little longer (or leave earlier if I don't like it). I may also want to change my itinerary spur of the moment as fresh info comes to me, and fly to a different island I hadn't thought about before when originally planning the trip in my cold basement back home.
Is it possible to purchase one-way tickets from island to island on a whim? Would enough seats be available to allow me to do this, or is this even allowed? Are some islands more flexible with this idea than others?
3. 'Girlfriend' availability.
I am sure this varies from island to island, but how doable is it to find a non-pro girlfriend on each island that will join me in my adventures without a dating app? I am in my early 50's, but I look much younger, as I have never been married and am not raising any kids. I am average height / somewhat fit build (w / a small gut), a "cute" face (according to my female coworkers), and I am a tad bit shy, but do have some game, (though not much, admittedly).
And if I need to use an app, then I don't want to spend too much effort on one that will not yield results. I am leaning towards PL, Tantan and DIA. Also, should I start working on this now, or do as I have read once or twice to not worry and just turn on the app when I am in the area locally and available?
4. Phone suggestion.
My Samsung Note 8 takes great pics and vids, and I know I need to get a burner with swappable SIM card when I arrive in-country. I would like to be able to take good quality pics / vids with whatever phone I get. Any ideas on this?
5. "Arrival announcements" thread.
Is this for meeting up with a wingman when you arrive in country? I believe I can trust a fellow monger even if I had not yet met them before, but the concept is odd to me. I could see setting myself up for trouble or possible robbery if I were to meet up with the wrong person. Am I again being strange? Maybe the monger community is far more of a brotherly fraternity than I would otherwise believe, and a forum member is a brother and a friend.
5. Safety and theft.
I may purchase a Pacsafe travelling bag for securing my goods in the room, because I am paranoid about staff being able to open the safe when I am away. Am I too paranoid? Have any of you guys had an issue with room safes, or do any of you use the Pacsafe bags? Do any of the cheaper places NOT have room safes, or is crooked hotel staff not something I should even bother worrying about?
Any and all help is greatly appreciated and I thank you all in advance for your replies.
I am concerned also about either losing my wallet or it being stolen. I plan to keep another card separately stored from where I keep my main wallet as a precaution.
What kind of backup emergency funds plan do you guys have? Will the ATMs allow access to any bank in the world, wherever I have money stored, or would it be worthwhile to open an account in Manila, or whatever.
Thanks in advance.
Although I am a newbie on this forum, I am a senior member in my local area, with over 100 posts, so I have contributed much to my hometown.
I will be in the Philippines early next year and in preparation, I have not only RTFF, but cut and pasted many, many report excerpts for future reference. Having said that, it doesn't mean I don't have a stupid questions or three. Mainly because I can't find the specific answer to the question I have. Hopefully you guys can help.
Although I have never been (yet), I have a feeling that I may want to try working towards retiring there if I can make it happen, but I have much to learn and only 3 weeks to absorb as much info as I can while I am there.
Among the several questions I will be posting in the near future are:
1. Suggested itinerary.
I am not only going there to monger, but would like to be able to supplement my sightseeing itinerary with it. I have a mind to fly out from Manila the day after I arrive to Palawan, where I plan to visit El Nido, Port Barton and one or two other island in the area I haven't decided on yet. I am not sure how much time I should allocate to this.
From there to Negros to see White Beach and maybe a few other spots, then to Bohol, Cebu area and Sirgao. I will fly back to Manila with the plan to spend several days of pure mongering before flying back to Georgia.
I would like to know what itinerary you experienced guys would suggest to a newbie arriving on a Monday in Feb on a 3 week stay?
2. Time allocation /'winging' it.
I know that some areas of the Phil specifically want you to submit your itinerary before boarding a plane for that destination, but I want to be able to 'wing it' per se. I may fall in love with a certain area and decide to stay a little longer (or leave earlier if I don't like it). I may also want to change my itinerary spur of the moment as fresh info comes to me, and fly to a different island I hadn't thought about before when originally planning the trip in my cold basement back home.
Is it possible to purchase one-way tickets from island to island on a whim? Would enough seats be available to allow me to do this, or is this even allowed? Are some islands more flexible with this idea than others?
3. 'Girlfriend' availability.
I am sure this varies from island to island, but how doable is it to find a non-pro girlfriend on each island that will join me in my adventures without a dating app? I am in my early 50's, but I look much younger, as I have never been married and am not raising any kids. I am average height / somewhat fit build (w / a small gut), a "cute" face (according to my female coworkers), and I am a tad bit shy, but do have some game, (though not much, admittedly).
And if I need to use an app, then I don't want to spend too much effort on one that will not yield results. I am leaning towards PL, Tantan and DIA. Also, should I start working on this now, or do as I have read once or twice to not worry and just turn on the app when I am in the area locally and available?
4. Phone suggestion.
My Samsung Note 8 takes great pics and vids, and I know I need to get a burner with swappable SIM card when I arrive in-country. I would like to be able to take good quality pics / vids with whatever phone I get. Any ideas on this?
5. "Arrival announcements" thread.
Is this for meeting up with a wingman when you arrive in country? I believe I can trust a fellow monger even if I had not yet met them before, but the concept is odd to me. I could see setting myself up for trouble or possible robbery if I were to meet up with the wrong person. Am I again being strange? Maybe the monger community is far more of a brotherly fraternity than I would otherwise believe, and a forum member is a brother and a friend.
5. Safety and theft.
I may purchase a Pacsafe travelling bag for securing my goods in the room, because I am paranoid about staff being able to open the safe when I am away. Am I too paranoid? Have any of you guys had an issue with room safes, or do any of you use the Pacsafe bags? Do any of the cheaper places NOT have room safes, or is crooked hotel staff not something I should even bother worrying about?
Any and all help is greatly appreciated and I thank you all in advance for your replies.First of all, you will need to learn to count. You have 6 questions. Not a few but 2 #5's. Math will be very important when you convert $$$ to pesos.
Upon flying into Manila you will need to fill out the immigration form and check the "tourist for non-mongering activities" box.
You have plenty of time to study up on flights before arrival. There are 3 airlines. Philippines Airline, Cebu Pacific and Air Asia. They all have websites that you can research flights and cost. Good thing is during EST the websites will not suffer any delays as it will be night time in PH. I suggest you buy your seat assignment upon the ticket purchase. BTW, upon ticket purchase you will be able to see the available seats. I suggest you buy all airline tickets online even when you are in PH.
You DO NOT need forwarding tickets out of arriving PH cities. Repeat DO NOT. You only need a departing Philippine ticket upon arrival into Philippines.
You will need an "unlocked" GSM cell phone. Please google this if you don't understand it.
I suggest you go on Amazon and buy a Blu Vivo XL4 cell phone for $99.99. It will be all you need. WiFi capable and strong 4 g-LTE.
The WiFi on this cell phonemay not work well in USA but will work perfect in PH.
Spend $50.00 more and get a Blu G9 cell phones for $149.99.
You can carry your credit card hidden in your sock if you are worried.
No need for a wing person. Wing it.
Bring a Pacsafe for your peace of mind.
I am concerned also about either losing my wallet or it being stolen. I plan to keep another card separately stored from where I keep my main wallet as a precaution.
What kind of backup emergency funds plan do you guys have? Will the ATMs allow access to any bank in the world, wherever I have money stored, or would it be worthwhile to open an account in Manila, or whatever.
Thanks in advance.I suggest you set up a money transfer account on Remitly.com prior to arrival. You will be able to send money to yourself in Ph via online.
BrainDrain
11-06-19, 05:29
2. Time allocation /'winging' it.
I know that some areas of the Phil specifically want you to submit your itinerary before boarding a plane for that destination, but I want to be able to 'wing it' per se.I haven't heard of this. You can roam.
3. 'Girlfriend' availability.
I am sure this varies from island to island, but how doable is it to find a non-pro girlfriend on each island that will join me in my adventures without a dating app? I am in my early 50's, but I look much younger, as I have never been married and am not raising any kids. I am average height / somewhat fit build (w / a small gut), a "cute" face (according to my female coworkers), and I am a tad bit shy, but do have some game, (though not much, admittedly).I would be deciding if a constant girlfriend is the way to go. When I went on an extended holiday I had a pre-arranged girl meet me at MNL and travel with me. Then I always had her on call. If you haven't been before, you don't want to waste a few days interviewing and testing out. Maybe you could use 3 days in Manila while sightseeing there, if you find a good one, she will join you. If ot, then a week later spend a few days in Cebu trying for another for the second half.
As I write this, I know that if there is a monger and money offering flights and travel for three weeks, then the girl will find you. I suggest one girl will bore you.
Enjoy your journey.
Although I am a newbie on this forum,
Any and all help is greatly appreciated and I thank you all in advance for your replies.If you are newbie to the Philippines then I'd recommend keeping your plans as flexible as possible. You, or anyone else making suggestions here, don't yet know what areas you will like and want an extended stay and those that you will not enjoy and want to leave the next day.
The beaches around the Visayas can be very nice and are easy to get into and out of. If you dive, just google for scuba options. There are many.
One way air tickets are readily available and, outside of peak seasons, are not that more expensive than prebooked ones. I prefer to do this and retain the flexibility vs saving $10 per airfare. DG is correct that all the airlines have websites that are very useful for research and actually booking flights.
There was a time that it was very rare to find a combination of girls and beaches on Philippines and everyone would recommend BYO. The internet has changed this and with a little prework to can find girls in towns that you want to visit or use the Tinder like apps for immediate hook ups. Don't forget FilippinoCupid as it has location search options that drills down to individual towns vs only to provinces.
Don't get the cheapest phone as its memory will fill quickly and become useless. Upon arrival you will want to download numerous chat, taxi and hook up sites. They all take storage space. No need for a top of the line model but I'd expect to pay $150.
I've advertised and met other mongers via the Announcements thread. None have been dickheads and several have been very helpful. It depends on your personality: would you enjoy a wingman or prefer to do your own thing?
Yes you are being paranoid. LOL. Just take reasonable precautions and you and your cash will be fine. The few times I have had issues it's where I didn't take the most basic of precautions. Room safes are common as are ATMs that accept foreign cards. I bring two card for different accounts in case I do get anything stolen and leave one in the room. Add internet banking on your phone. Be aware that regional ATMs do go down due to weather or connectivity issues so always have enough cash in your room to cover a couple of days. On your person just have what you need that morning or evening.
Enjoy. G.
I am concerned also about either losing my wallet or it being stolen. I plan to keep another card separately stored from where I keep my main wallet as a precaution.
What kind of backup emergency funds plan do you guys have? Will the ATMs allow access to any bank in the world, wherever I have money stored, or would it be worthwhile to open an account in Manila, or whatever.
Use a money belt which goes under your shorts. Do not carry a wallet in your pocket.
Do not use hotel safes as staff can skim banknotes stored there. Unless you use a pacsafe in the safe. Better to put all your valuables into your suitcase and then lock it. Hotel staff will not tamper with your bag.
Some ATMs are only on certain systems like Visa. Depends on your card. Take at least two different bank debit cards with you. No need to open a bank account in the Philippines. No problem to get cash from banks with your foreign card, like from Metrobank, or BPI, or others.
Use a money belt which goes under your shorts. Do not carry a wallet in your pocket.
Do not use hotel safes as staff can skim banknotes stored there. Unless you use a pacsafe in the safe. Better to put all your valuables into your suitcase and then lock it. Hotel staff will not tamper with your bag.
Some ATMs are only on certain systems like Visa. Depends on your card. Take at least two different bank debit cards with you. No need to open a bank account in the Philippines. No problem to get cash from banks with your foreign card, like from Metrobank, or BPI, or others.Go online and submit a travel request for each card you bring, or you may find yourself locked-out from ATMs with non-functional Credit Cards. I agree, bring two cards. Some ATMs intake your card during the transaction, onlike in the US where they are mostly swipe. With jetlag, an anxious erection and a few beers, I've walked away with my ATM card in the machine before.
I leave my CC in the safe when I go out. With free international withdrawals (thanks, Schwab!) I don't need to carry a lot of cash, either. ATMs are everywhere.
I am concerned also about either losing my wallet or it being stolen. I plan to keep another card separately stored from where I keep my main wallet as a precaution.
What kind of backup emergency funds plan do you guys have? Will the ATMs allow access to any bank in the world, wherever I have money stored, or would it be worthwhile to open an account in Manila, or whatever.Why not trust us fellow-mongers?! .
Well, I mean just me. Send me your $ and I will safe keep it for you and distribute it to you as you need. !!
I am first timer to Phil and will be there in January during the Chinese New Year. Is every place going to be more crowded than normal? I have 10 days there and have not made many plans yet, only a hotel near the airport for first night then off to AC for 3 nights, after that not sure.
Blanquiceleste
11-07-19, 00:58
I am first timer to Phil and will be there in January during the Chinese New Year. Is every place going to be more crowded than normal? I have 10 days there and have not made many plans yet, only a hotel near the airport for first night then off to AC for 3 nights, after that not sure.If you are there for mongering, there is no impact of CNY on your interests. Its BAU in all places in the Philippines.
Although I am a newbie on this forum, I am a senior member in my local area, with over 100 posts, so I have contributed much to my hometown.
I will be in the Philippines early next year and in preparation, I have not only RTFF, but cut and pasted many, many report excerpts for future reference. Having said that, it doesn't mean I don't have a stupid questions or three. Mainly because I can't find the specific answer to the question I have. Hopefully you guys can help.
Although I have never been (yet), I have a feeling that I may want to try working towards retiring there if I can make it happen, but I have much to learn and only 3 weeks to absorb as much info as I can while I am there.
Among the several questions I will be posting in the near future are:
1. Suggested itinerary.
I am not only going there to monger, but would like to be able to supplement my sightseeing itinerary with it. I have a mind to fly out from Manila the day after I arrive to Palawan, where I plan to visit El Nido, Port Barton and one or two other island in the area I haven't decided on yet. I am not sure how much time I should allocate to this.
From there to Negros to see White Beach and maybe a few other spots, then to Bohol, Cebu area and Sirgao. I will fly back to Manila with the plan to spend several days of pure mongering before flying back to Georgia.
I would like to know what itinerary you experienced guys would suggest to a newbie arriving on a Monday in Feb on a 3 week stay?
2. Time allocation /'winging' it.
I know that some areas of the Phil specifically want you to submit your itinerary before boarding a plane for that destination, but I want to be able to 'wing it' per se. I may fall in love with a certain area and decide to stay a little longer (or leave earlier if I don't like it). I may also want to change my itinerary spur of the moment as fresh info comes to me, and fly to a different island I hadn't thought about before when originally planning the trip in my cold basement back home.
Is it possible to purchase one-way tickets from island to island on a whim? Would enough seats be available to allow me to do this, or is this even allowed? Are some islands more flexible with this idea than others?
3. 'Girlfriend' availability.
I am sure this varies from island to island, but how doable is it to find a non-pro girlfriend on each island that will join me in my adventures without a dating app? I am in my early 50's, but I look much younger, as I have never been married and am not raising any kids. I am average height / somewhat fit build (w / a small gut), a "cute" face (according to my female coworkers), and I am a tad bit shy, but do have some game, (though not much, admittedly).
And if I need to use an app, then I don't want to spend too much effort on one that will not yield results. I am leaning towards PL, Tantan and DIA. Also, should I start working on this now, or do as I have read once or twice to not worry and just turn on the app when I am in the area locally and available?
4. Phone suggestion.
My Samsung Note 8 takes great pics and vids, and I know I need to get a burner with swappable SIM card when I arrive in-country. I would like to be able to take good quality pics / vids with whatever phone I get. Any ideas on this?
5. "Arrival announcements" thread.
Is this for meeting up with a wingman when you arrive in country? I believe I can trust a fellow monger even if I had not yet met them before, but the concept is odd to me. I could see setting myself up for trouble or possible robbery if I were to meet up with the wrong person. Am I again being strange? Maybe the monger community is far more of a brotherly fraternity than I would otherwise believe, and a forum member is a brother and a friend.
5. Safety and theft.
I may purchase a Pacsafe travelling bag for securing my goods in the room, because I am paranoid about staff being able to open the safe when I am away. Am I too paranoid? Have any of you guys had an issue with room safes, or do any of you use the Pacsafe bags? Do any of the cheaper places NOT have room safes, or is crooked hotel staff not something I should even bother worrying about?
Any and all help is greatly appreciated and I thank you all in advance for your replies.Philippines is one of the most widely reported forums on this website. All the info is there if you care to go through many pages.
Girls, scams, hotels, sightseeing places, nightlife, bars, phones, security, travel, food=you name it it is there.
Have a good time!
Engine Driver
11-07-19, 05:19
I am first timer to Phil and will be there in January during the Chinese New Year. Is every place going to be more crowded than normal? I have 10 days there and have not made many plans yet, only a hotel near the airport for first night then off to AC for 3 nights, after that not sure.Christmas and Holy Week (Easter) are when it's a bit busy with people going home to the provinces.
Just stay away from lobbies, restaurants and pool areas of the big 5-star hotels in Makati during CNY. The Chinese-Filipino kids will be running amok there with no parental control and the staff will be too scared or too polite to do anything. It will drive you nuts. All the big Chinese restos will be packed, but that's unlikely to affect you or your hookers.
You're good to go.
Engine Driver
11-07-19, 05:54
Go online and submit a travel request for each card you bring, or you may find yourself locked-out from ATMs with non-functional Credit Cards. I agree, bring two cards. Some ATMs intake your card during the transaction, onlike in the US where they are mostly swipe. With jetlag, an anxious erection and a few beers, I've walked away with my ATM card in the machine before.
I leave my CC in the safe when I go out. With free international withdrawals (thanks, Schwab!) I don't need to carry a lot of cash, either. ATMs are everywhere.I'm only able to withdraw 10,000 pesos a day on my debit card. Is that just for Australian cards because we are so poor or does that limit apply to American and British cash cards as well? Kinda sucks when I need to pay my hotel bill in cash (for obvious reasons) and I've got to a find a money changer at the last minute.
I'm only able to withdraw 10,000 pesos a day on my debit card. Is that just for Australian cards because we are so poor or does that limit apply to American and British cash cards as well? Kinda sucks when I need to pay my hotel bill in cash (for obvious reasons) and I've got to a find a money changer at the last minute.I believe that is P10,000 per transaction. You can make multiple transactions up to your daily Australian bank limit.
I believe that the PH banks decreased it to P10 k, so that they get more international transaction fees. The P280/ trx is a complete rort.
I use ING with rebated fees.
PP.
Mr Enternational
11-07-19, 06:36
I'm only able to withdraw 10,000 pesos a day on my debit card. Is that just for Australian cards because we are so poor or does that limit apply to American and British cash cards as well? Kinda sucks when I need to pay my hotel bill in cash (for obvious reasons) and I've got to a find a money changer at the last minute.LOL. Depends on your bank. My Charles Schwab has a US$1000/day limit.
I'm only able to withdraw 10,000 pesos a day on my debit card. Is that just for Australian cards because we are so poor or does that limit apply to American and British cash cards as well?You do not have a 10,000 peso limit on your Australian debit card. You have a limit based on what your limit is according to your Australian bank. For most it is $1000 aud. This means that you can withdraw around 35,000 pesos daily in the Philippines.
Most philippine banks limit each ATM withdrawal to 10,000 pesos. So you can do multiple withdrawals up to your bank limit. One after the other. You could do three 10,000 peso withdrawals in one 24 hour period.
If you have a travelcard, then the limit is much higher. One time I withdrew ten times 10,000 pesos. So 100,000 pesos. Ten withdrawals one after the other.
I'm only able to withdraw 10,000 pesos a day on my debit card. Is that just for Australian cards because we are so poor or does that limit apply to American and British cash cards as well? Kinda sucks when I need to pay my hotel bill in cash (for obvious reasons) and I've got to a find a money changer at the last minute.Per transaction or per day?
Per transaction limits depend on the bank who owns the ATM. Even within the same bank network, provincial atms may have lower limits than major city ones.
https://blog.payrollhero.com/2015/04/24/atm-withdrawal-limits-for-philippine-banks/
PI banks have never limited my daily withdrawals. It's always been my home bank. Let them know you are travelling so you don't trigger fraud alerts and get your cards blocked. Also, daily limits can be adjusted, often online by the account holder, without the need to go into a bank branch. I think the default is AUD1000 or PHP 30 k. Obviously this takes 3 transactions and 3 sets of bank fees so maximised your individual withdrawals.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
11-07-19, 10:02
I'm only able to withdraw 10,000 pesos a day on my debit card. Is that just for Australian cards because we are so poor or does that limit apply to American and British cash cards as well? Kinda sucks when I need to pay my hotel bill in cash (for obvious reasons) and I've got to a find a money changer at the last minute.Limits so far have been limited to:
1) The ATM machine itself, some in Phils will not kick out more than 5 k in any instance.
2) My bank (s). I use two ATM cards, and online in my account settings I have set both maximum withdrawal limits on any instance, and also you can call your bank to set a minimum withdrawal timeline (example, 24 hours). In this case, I can withdraw, say, p10 k (max withdrawal limit on any instance), and then cannot withdraw anything again for 24 hours. Alternately, I could withdraw p5 k now, and another 5 k a few hours later, but nothing more for another 24 hours after. I'm not saying those are my actual limits, those numbers are examples.
I met an American last year in a central Luzon small town (he lives there). His passport shows him a traveler thru more countries than me. Guessing that makes him a world traveler. He said he keeps his max withdrawal at p5 k and also limits that withdrawal max to once each 48 hours. No kidding, once he reaches 5 k he can't withdraw again for 48 hours: "My GF has access to my ATM card. Don't want any runaway situations". Ohhhhh.
Wicked Roger
11-07-19, 11:38
You do not have a 10,000 peso limit on your Australian debit card. You have a limit based on what your limit is according to your Australian bank. For most it is $1000 aud. This means that you can withdraw around 35,000 pesos daily in the Philippines.
Most philippine banks limit each ATM withdrawal to 10,000 pesos. So you can do multiple withdrawals up to your bank limit. One after the other. You could do three 10,000 peso withdrawals in one 24 hour period.
If you have a travelcard, then the limit is much higher. One time I withdrew ten times 10,000 pesos. So 100,000 pesos. Ten withdrawals one after the other.MY HSBC card gives me PHP 40000 a day limit and my PHP pesos ATM is PHP 200,000 Is HSBC though and I am along term customer of the bank.
You do not have a 10,000 peso limit on your Australian debit card. You have a limit based on what your limit is according to your Australian bank. For most it is $1000 aud. This means that you can withdraw around 35,000 pesos daily in the Philippines.
Most philippine banks limit each ATM withdrawal to 10,000 pesos. So you can do multiple withdrawals up to your bank limit. One after the other. You could do three 10,000 peso withdrawals in one 24 hour period.
If you have a travelcard, then the limit is much higher. One time I withdrew ten times 10,000 pesos. So 100,000 pesos. Ten withdrawals one after the other.That also means 10 ATM fees. I think the only reason they limit it to 10 k is to rack up those fees. Some ATM's are only 5 k each time.
Any ideas how to go about doing this? None of the girls in the bars want to admit that they do it, which is a very frustrating guessing game.
That also means 10 ATM fees. I think the only reason they limit it to 10 k is to rack up those fees. Some ATM's are only 5 k each time.That and theft, fraud and scams are so common here they try to limit the exposure.
But I think the driving factor is to increase ATM fees. I take out the max when I am at a HSBC machine, I really try not to use local machines because of the fee ald low withdrawal limits.
Thanks for the herculean and fantastic effort in sharing your research notes with us. This is the kind of guide we all look for.
I read the last several years worth of posts in preparation for my first trip to Manila and created a summary for myself by cutting and pasting posts from dozens of people. Thought that other first-timers might find this useful.
MANILA. GENERAL MONGERING INFO.
Two principal red-light districts in Manila, Makati (Burgos) and Ermita / Malate (EDSA). Makati is the financial center of Manila. Ermita is a bit sketchy. There are in fact 2 different price levels in Manila; in Burgos bars and EDSA you have to spend a total of around 6000 peso to get a girl LT. This is very high price for a third world country like Philippines, but the quality especially in some Burgos bars is really high and according to most reports also their performance in bed is top class. Freelancers in bars like LA Cafe, Havana Cafe, streets, other bars etc. Can be had for 1500 - 2500 peso LT. There is no need to pay any more and you HAVE to negotiate. I have pulled girls from bars and street and also Havana but I always start or counter with 1500 LT. If they decline I move on to the next one. I understand that if you meet a real diamond you want to stretch the budget, but if you are caucasian and not too old there is no need to pay more than 3000 peso LT no matter how hot the girl might be.
Wicked Roger
11-08-19, 04:39
That and theft, fraud and scams are so common here they try to limit the exposure.
But I think the driving factor is to increase ATM fees. I take out the max when I am at a HSBC machine, I really try not to use local machines because of the fee ald low withdrawal limits.Never use any other bank ATM as there is no fees when using why HSBC card in an HSBC ATM. But agree KG fees are normal even in other places and are not really justified.
Check PM please.
Any ideas how to go about doing this? None of the girls in the bars want to admit that they do it, which is a very frustrating guessing game.For me, I tickle their ass anus area in a nice fun way in the interview. If that's met with disgust then it's off limits.
Never use any other bank ATM as there is no fees when using why HSBC card in an HSBC ATM. But agree KG fees are normal even in other places and are not really justified.
Check PM please.Unfortunately HSBC ATM not as common everywhere and nonexistent outside of Manila, Cebu and Davao.
Just paid 250 p fee to take out 10 k p from a non HSBC bank in Bohol. Not excessive to some others I have seen.
WestCoast1
11-11-19, 15:17
Unfortunately HSBC ATM not as common everywhere and nonexistent outside of Manila, Cebu and Davao.
Just paid 250 p fee to take out 10 k p from a non HSBC bank in Bohol. Not excessive to some others I have seen.A number of us have suggested the Charles Schwab ATM card, which rebates back all ATM fees at the end of each month. That includes out-of-Schwab network fees, and also the ATM fees of any machine that hits you with any such fee for any reason. P250 is common. Unfortunately, getting the Schwab ATM card is a bit tricky. On their website, you download and print out a 12-page document outlining that you must open up two accounts (in order to get the card). You must initial and sign the document in numerous places, and then send money with the document to open the two accounts:
1) A Schwab trading account (stocks, securities), with a minimum of $200 deposited.
2) A Schwab checking account (hence the ATM card). I load up the checking account and not only use the Schwab ATM card overseas, I have come to use it everywhere, as I know that any machine that hits me with any fee will be rebated back at the end of the month (even machines in my home country).
Mr Enternational
11-11-19, 15:52
A number of us have suggested the Charles Schwab ATM card, which rebates back all ATM fees at the end of each month. That includes out-of-Schwab network fees, and also the ATM fees of any machine that hits you with any such fee for any reason. P250 is common. Unfortunately, getting the Schwab ATM card is a bit tricky. On their website, you download and print out a 12-page document outlining that you must open up two accounts (in order to get the card). You must initial and sign the document in numerous places, and then send money with the document to open the two accounts:
1) A Schwab trading account (stocks, securities), with a minimum of $200 deposited.That must be a really old way. When I did mine years ago, all I did was call. At the end of September I opened one for my mom before she was due to travel last month. I called and they told me that it is all done online now.
So I went to the website and opened a brokerage account for her. I think I only transfered $1 (might have been $500 that she would use during her trip. Can't remember) from her local bank. When that was approved I went online and opened the investor checking account. I linked it to her local bank account. They sent like 1 cent and 2 cents between the accounts to verify them, then they automatically sent the ATM card. The entire process took less than 1 week.
Unfortunately HSBC ATM not as common everywhere and nonexistent outside of Manila, Cebu and Davao.
Just paid 250 p fee to take out 10 k p from a non HSBC bank in Bohol. Not excessive to some others I have seen.Get a HSBC Premier account and the fees are waived. Or an additional BDO account. BDO is everywhere.
WestCoast1
11-11-19, 18:16
Get a HSBC Premier account and the fees are waived. Or an additional BDO account. BDO is everywhere.Eks: What's the minimum deposit on that account?
ME: You are probably right. I opened mine several years ago, online was probably available. I just followed the steps given to me in PM here at the time, did it all by mailing the multi-page application. Have linked that account to my regular bank account for xfers. Works beautifully. While BDO is in many places, the Schwab card works anywhere the Visa symbol is displayed, no need to find any given bank's machine.
Eks: What's the minimum deposit on that account?
.Minimum deposit for HSBC Premier is either 3 or 4 million p.
However you can obtain Premier in one country and get it in all other countries as well.
Wicked Roger
11-12-19, 04:05
Minimum deposit for HSBC Premier is either 3 or 4 million p.
However you can obtain Premier in one country and get it in all other countries as well.Correct and I have had 3 accounts open in different countries.
For a normal HSBC account (not Premier) the minimum monthly balance is PHP 100 k BPI BDO Metro much easier.
However you can obtain Premier in one country and get it in all other countries as well.Correct, I don't have my initial premier account in PI. And from what I remember, in PI minimum is 4 m Pesos.
WestCoast1
11-12-19, 12:34
Correct, I don't have my initial premier account in PI. And from what I remember, in PI minimum is 4 m Pesos.This is going a long way (millions of pesos) to get fee-free ATM access. I will stick to my Schwab brokerage account, where $200 (p10 k) was all it took.
On a similar note, CITI Bank offers a credit card that does not charge any Foreign Transaction Fees.
EscortManilaPh
11-15-19, 12:48
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This is going a long way (millions of pesos) to get fee-free ATM access. I will stick to my Schwab brokerage account, where $200 (p10 k) was all it took.
....Qualifying balance is roughly the same across all countries oncew you convert and round off the number.
The best exchange rate I ever got in Manila was 1. 5 k for ST deposit.
WestCoast1
11-16-19, 02:37
Qualifying balance is roughly the same across all countries oncew you convert and round off the number.Yes, to my point. Qualifying HSBC Premiere account at p3 million = $60,000 USD. Compare that to the Schwab 2-account system with a minimum deposit of $200 USD. Same result, you get fee-free ATM access anywhere (well, they rebate back your account any ATM fees at the end of each month).
DallasTinku
11-18-19, 05:17
Had a short 4 day trip to manila and had some free time to monger. There were some rains during the evening which made it hard. Was staying in Sheraton near the airport, staff had no problems bringing back girls to the room. Day 1 went to LA cafe. It was crowed (May be becoz of rain), decent crowd but all the stunner there where on the 1st floor where you have the live music. Alas they only are interested in Chinese or Korean guys. Avg the girls at the ground floor quoted from 1. 5 k to 3 k for ST. Most of them suggest to take their friend as well. Girls are not pushy nor they disturb you while your drinking. Only approach you when you call them over.
DAY 2 - Met a girl from pinaylove. Cute college girl who said she was par time English tutor. Came on time and she was fun, filled with energy. Stayed all night and kept me up all night as well. Paid her 6 K.
DAY 3 - Another girl from dating site. She was par time model (as per her). Showed me some modelling pics as well. Nice ass but only allowed fingering. No anal. Long hair which was nice. Paid her 7 K + VT bombshell perfume she had requested.
DAY 4 - Had a plan to meet another one from a dating site but she was not able to make it, so tried various go go bars. Lot of girls there on avg they were asking for 3. 5 to 4 k ST and there was entrance fee around 300 to 500 peso, and lady drink around 750 peso.
DT.
Yes, to my point. Qualifying HSBC Premiere account at p3 million = $60,000 USD. Compare that to the Schwab 2-account system with a minimum deposit of $200 USD. Same result, you get fee-free ATM access anywhere (well, they rebate back your account any ATM fees at the end of each month).Difficult for a Canadian not resident in the USA to open bank account there.
I tried, not Schwab but many banks in Kansas City. Only place I could open a US account was in Grand Forks ND. I needed it because my US employer in Afghanistan would only make deposits directly to a US account.
Had a short 4 day trip to manila and had some free time to monger. There were some rains during the evening which made it hard. Was staying in Sheraton near the airport, staff had no problems bringing back girls to the room. Day 1 went to LA cafe. It was crowed (May be becoz of rain), decent crowd but all the stunner there where on the 1st floor where you have the live music. Alas they only are interested in Chinese or Korean guys. Avg the girls at the ground floor quoted from 1. 5 k to 3 k for ST. Most of them suggest to take their friend as well. Girls are not pushy nor they disturb you while your drinking. Only approach you when you call them over.
DAY 2 - Met a girl from pinaylove. Cute college girl who said she was par time English tutor. Came on time and she was fun, filled with energy. Stayed all night and kept me up all night as well. Paid her 6 K.
DAY 3 - Another girl from dating site. She was par time model (as per her). Showed me some modelling pics as well. Nice ass but only allowed fingering. No anal. Long hair which was nice. Paid her 7 K + VT bombshell perfume she had requested.
DAY 4 - Had a plan to meet another one from a dating site but she was not able to make it, so tried various go go bars. Lot of girls there on avg they were asking for 3. 5 to 4 k ST and there was entrance fee around 300 to 500 peso, and lady drink around 750 peso.
DT.Thanks for the post DT. This will motivate in deciding my next mongering trip.
Making a run to Manila next week and sending out a few feelers. Have to say the majority of the quotes I'm getting are past the high side and bordering on the Ludacris. Yes I'm starting on the low side offering 2 k to 3 k and I'm getting shot down pretty quickly. But it's just fishing, not every cast will hook a fish. The lastest shot down my offer and then within seconds was trying to negotiate her deal on her terms. I quickly said sorry, I take the first answer given. I've got no problem spending more, I do have a problem offering a high amount to a photo or two.
WestCoast1
11-19-19, 23:44
Making a run to Manila next week and sending out a few feelers. Have to say the majority of the quotes I'm getting are past the high side and bordering on the Ludacris. Yes I'm starting on the low side offering 2 k to 3 k and I'm getting shot down pretty quickly. But it's just fishing, not every cast will hook a fish. The lastest shot down my offer and then within seconds was trying to negotiate her deal on her terms. I quickly said sorry, I take the first answer given. I've got no problem spending more, I do have a problem offering a high amount to a photo or two.Things will change when your boots (sandals) are on the ground there. Girls make a hard distinction between "I'm coming there" (time distance to arrival irrelevant) and "I am here now". Prices might drop upon arrival, and then drastically during negotiations.
PedroMorales
11-20-19, 00:53
Making a run to Manila next week and sending out a few feelers. Have to say the majority of the quotes I'm getting are past the high side and bordering on the Ludacris. Yes I'm starting on the low side offering 2 k to 3 k and I'm getting shot down pretty quickly. But it's just fishing, not every cast will hook a fish. The lastest shot down my offer and then within seconds was trying to negotiate her deal on her terms. I quickly said sorry, I take the first answer given. I've got no problem spending more, I do have a problem offering a high amount to a photo or two.I was quoted $100 USD (about 5000 PHP) on Locanoto. The US $ is the first sign as that is not the currency of the Philippines. I would expect to get 5 good bonks there for that. But that is capitalism for you. They smell easy money. Why pay hookers and bell boys over the odds and not durian squeezers and so on? In hotels, those on the breakfast shift get small tips but toothless Pinay hookers think it is it Klondyke without the frost bite. Yet foolk marry them.
Things will change when your boots (sandals) are on the ground there. Girls make a hard distinction between "I'm coming there" (time distance to arrival irrelevant) and "I am here now". Prices might drop upon arrival, and then drastically during negotiations.I do get the impression that there are loads of scammers on pinalove. Get a WhatsApp number from a girl and it's the number from one that asked for load for her cell phone so she could video chat. Then another who comes out and says 8000 for an hour, later I see her photos on smooci and she's an independent asking 8000 for two hours. Correct me if I'm wrong but the GoGo girls are wanting 4 k or so for the night. And I get to meet them in person. Why would I pay more for a girl with photos?
And on a side note my wingman ran into a hotel issue on the weekend that said all the hotels are booked solid. Is it that busy or just a website glitch?
Making a run to Manila next week and sending out a few feelers. Have to say the majority of the quotes I'm getting are past the high side and bordering on the Ludacris. Yes I'm starting on the low side offering 2 k to 3 k and I'm getting shot down pretty quickly. But it's just fishing, not every cast will hook a fish. The lastest shot down my offer and then within seconds was trying to negotiate her deal on her terms. I quickly said sorry, I take the first answer given. I've got no problem spending more, I do have a problem offering a high amount to a photo or two.WR is correct. 3 k is the standard LT rate for any online girl who isn't a Princess.
If you are in town and can't get laid for that amount, give up and join a monastery. 😁 Until then, get numbers online but don't worry about rates or dates to meet. That's done upon arrival.
Enjoy. G.
Making a run to Manila next week and sending out a few feelers. Have to say the majority of the quotes I'm getting are past the high side and bordering on the Ludacris. Yes I'm starting on the low side offering 2 k to 3 k and I'm getting shot down pretty quickly. But it's just fishing, not every cast will hook a fish. The lastest shot down my offer and then within seconds was trying to negotiate her deal on her terms. I quickly said sorry, I take the first answer given. I've got no problem spending more, I do have a problem offering a high amount to a photo or two.I do not like discussing price with dating site girls unless they ask first. IMHO those who discuss the price are not really interested in being with you. They are trying to find out if you are a big spender or if they can make make quick big bucks if they decide. I do not want such girls. I look for somebody who is really interested in staying with me. Sexwise I only find out in bed if she is good or not.
One pretty girl quoted 10000 pesos per day who had no real interest in staying with me. There are many girls in dating sites who are there not really looking for a mate or looking for meeting foreigners to make money. Some play games just as we are playing games with them. In spite agreed price, date etc when crunch time comes they back out.
Generally I give 2500 per day. If I like the girl I would take her shopping, take her to tourism destinations. Spending money is not an issue. But taken for a ride is.
..... Spending money is not an issue. But taken for a ride is.My feelings exactly.
BrainDrain
11-20-19, 22:56
And on a side note my wingman ran into a hotel issue on the weekend that said all the hotels are booked solid. Is it that busy or just a website glitch?It's a big city so I doubt it can be booked solid.
Which "website"? Which dates? Which part of Manila?
The big online booking corporations Expedia and Booking.com control lots of online inventory. Where possible avoid those behemoths. They are evil. Book direct to hotel where possible.
It's a big city so I doubt it can be booked solid.
Which "website"? Which dates? Which part of Manila?
The big online booking corporations Expedia and Booking.com control lots of online inventory. Where possible avoid those behemoths. They are evil. Book direct to hotel where possible.It was on Expedia and over a weekend a week and a half from now. I know that the Nana hotel on Bangkok can sell out over the weekend but never heard of an entire area of Makati.
KilledSoul
11-21-19, 05:38
Difficult for a Canadian not resident in the USA to open bank account there.
I tried, not Schwab but many banks in Kansas City. Only place I could open a US account was in Grand Forks ND. I needed it because my US employer in Afghanistan would only make deposits directly to a US account.Try opening a TD beyond checking account (you don't need to be US resident) and IIRC they also don't charge an ATM fee.
Mr Enternational
11-21-19, 05:44
The big online booking corporations Expedia and Booking.com control lots of online inventory. Where possible avoid those behemoths. They are evil. Book direct to hotel where possible.In too many cases it is more expensive to book direct with the hotel though.
In too many cases it is more expensive to book direct with the hotel though.And you may miss out on the included breakfast, airport pick up etc.
Direct booking does give the widest choice though as the online aggregators are often only given an allotment of rooms with the remainder retained by the hotel to be sold by them through their sales department when online options are showing 'sold out'.
Cheers. G.
In too many cases it is more expensive to book direct with the hotel though.Depends on the hotel and whether you are a member. I always stay at the Hyatt if I can and they have a price guarantee to beat any advertised price.
Wicked Roger
11-21-19, 06:35
Depends on the hotel and whether you are a member. I always stay at the Hyatt if I can and they have a price guarantee to beat any advertised price.Same for me with the 2 hotel groups I use a lot.
Can usually get better prices direct as a frequent user compared to the online sites but I still use at times. If only to compare process with the direct option.
I look up both the hotel site and the booking sites.
Then I decide which is better for me taking into all accounts.
That's all there is to it.
Most of my girls have been had over Pinalove so far, the chats are all pretty much the same with 'how much you give' and the like. Negotiate a price and they come over using whatsapp, sometimes only pinalove or a combination of both. So I'm repeating with this girl and only went with a BJ (long story of why only a BJ, suffice it to say she was nearby). Offered her a small amount and she accepted, upon entering the room negotiations upgraded it to full service. And as we are getting into the final stages she starts saying something like don't tell me on whatsapp and I'm clueless, thinking its a scam and she wants more money for sex. She then explains it to me after we are done. The pimp goes over the whatsapp chat to compare what they turn in and what's on the chat to see if what they turn in is what they've earned. She then goes onto hide the extra money for herself. Then it dawned on me that she'd ask for taxi money but not on whatsapp, guessing to pocket the money. Have to say this, most of my hobby has been spent in Germany and Thailand where the English is more broken compared to the Philippines. I'm not naive into thinking the hobby world doesn't have pimps in it, just wasn't expecting it to jump out and smack me across the face. I've read thousands upon thousands of pages on the Philippines and Asia in general and 'pimp' is hardly ever brought up. 120 times if I'm reading the search results for all of Asia did someone write pimp in their report.
In Thailand its well known that the girls are working to support their families and sending the money they earn back home. I'd much rather have my money going back home than into the pockets of a pimp.
There seems to be a pattern to the pimp using both WhatsApp and pinalove that a regular girl wouldn't do. Now that I'm aware of the connection I seen to spot it now on other chats. Such as asking for your name, asking for a recent photo to show, negotiating for services and time and the girl not knowing any of said negotiations upon arriving. Had a girl that came over early in the morning and got me at full energy and I pounded her hard, long and fast and when I was done she was almost running out the door. Minutes later WhatsApp messages are saying she wants to see me again. And on another occasion a girl and her friend had some issues performing the desired service completely with me and my wingman and only I paid my girl the fill amount. But that full amount was changed on WhatsApp with one single comment from me, lowered by 1000. The girl accepted the money and left. Hour later I get a WhatsApp message from her good friend asking how much I gave her friend. Now why wouldn't she just ask the friend? Because it wasn't the friend asking but the pimp wanting to know if what he was given was there correct amount.
I know it was the pimp, trust me on this. How do I know? Because the girl have me her cell number and I tried to find her on WhatsApp and couldn't. So I sent her a chat on pinalove and was she gave me her WhatsApp number which was a completely different cell number.
And to to it off, my wingman was upset with the situation that unfolded and sent his girl away. Both of our WhatsApp chats start going off from this girl. My wingman doesn't want to continue but in horny enough to take her on so say ok come to my room. She should know who she's taking too, my photo is on WhatsApp. Yet she goes back to my wingman's room. Pimp didn't know which guy wanted her and sent her to the wrong room. She comes in and later my buddy says his WhatsApp was still going off with her saying she was in the lobby even though he knew she was with me. Later we compared the times on WhatsApp and our line chats to confirm this.
To sun it up. Don't always assume that the girl on WhatsApp is really the same person that arrives in your room that you've been chatting with. An easy way to know if it's the same person send her a chat when she's in the room and if her phone doesn't beep then there's a good chance it wasn't her on WhatsApp you were dealing with. And if your using using your real number via WiFi then that number is known to the someone besides the girl your seeing.
So last light met up with a girl I have met a few times before. She is quite pretty and enjoys the sex. Lives in Bulacan so I always get complaints about how much it costs to get here. I just brush it off saying your choice. Two interesting things to come out of it is that the main reason she likes me is the DATY the other was after the deed we went to the shower and she says I'm too lazy to go to the toilet which was literally 2 steps away and promptly squats and pees on the floor of the shower. It was a first for me, not that it worried me but not something I expected.
WestCoast1
12-09-19, 00:38
So last light met up with a girl I have met a few times before. She is quite pretty and enjoys the sex. Lives in Bulacan so I always get complaints about how much it costs to get here. I just brush it off saying your choice. Two interesting things to come out of it is that the main reason she likes me is the DATY the other was after the deed we went to the shower and she says I'm too lazy to go to the toilet which was literally 2 steps away and promptly squats and pees on the floor of the shower. It was a first for me, not that it worried me but not something I expected.I have posted more than once a girl doing just that, squatting to pee in shower. Also had girls squatting over the CR sink. Half of them squat to clean the snatch before or after the ditty by splashing water.
PedroMorales
12-09-19, 01:03
I have posted more than once a girl doing just that, squatting to pee in shower. Also had girls squatting over the CR sink. Half of them squat to clean the snatch before or after the ditty by splashing water.I knew a guy used to move the plates to one side to piss into the sink.
I have posted more than once a girl doing just that, squatting to pee in shower. Also had girls squatting over the CR sink. Half of them squat to clean the snatch before or after the ditty by splashing water.Really not a problem. I take a pizz while I am in the shower. IMHO, only wimps get out of the shower to take a pizz.
One time I had a girl taking a shower with me and wanted to step out and take pizz. I told her to take it in the shower, she gave me a funny look and then squatted down a bit and pizz away. It was kinda funny watching a strong jet coming from there!
Member #4698
12-09-19, 02:55
I have posted more than once a girl doing just that, squatting to pee in shower. Also had girls squatting over the CR sink. Half of them squat to clean the snatch before or after the ditty by splashing water.Many of my girls do the Asian squat to clean their pussies before or after sex. I kind of like watching them do it in my 5 star hotel bathroom shower. You can take a girl out of the village, but you can't take the village out of the girl. Or at least it ain't easy.
Really not a problem. I take a pizz while I am in the shower. IMHO, only wimps get out of the shower to take a pizz. One time I had a girl taking a shower with me and wanted to step out and take pizz. I told her to take it in the shower, she gave me a funny look and then squatted down a bit and pizz away. It was kinda funny watching a strong jet coming from there!What's the problem with taking a wizz in the shower? As George Costanza once said, it's all pipes. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s09pfBEJYHc.
I didn't have a problem with it just took me by surprise. I often piss in the shower just not in company.
Engine Driver
12-09-19, 04:52
Many of my girls do the Asian squat to clean their pussies before or after sex. I kind of like watching them do it in my 5 star hotel bathroom shower. You can take a girl out of the village, but you can't take the village out of the girl. Or at least it ain't easy.
What's the problem with taking a wizz in the shower? As George Costanza once said, it's all pipes. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s09pfBEJYHc.All my hookers are very high class. They can speak French, know their vintage wines and can sit down properly on a white man toilet to take a piss. They also use the gold plated butt blaster to clean their pussies before I DATY.
WestCoast1
12-09-19, 06:54
I knew a guy used to move the plates to one side to piss into the sink.You planted a spy-cam in my condo? Sometimes in the middle of the night, I forget to move the dishes. Smile.
Nobody has yet said that they have had girls squat OVER and on top of the toilet to pee. That cracked me up the first time I saw that. Why not just sit down on the toilet seat? Again. Can't take the village out of the girl. .
Mr Enternational
12-09-19, 19:04
I didn't have a problem with it just took me by surprise. I often piss in the shower just not in company.In company is when I like to do it. I like to pee on the company.
Mr Enternational
12-09-19, 19:07
Nobody has yet said that they have had girls squat OVER and on top of the toilet to pee. That cracked me up the first time I saw that. Why not just sit down on the toilet seat? Again. Can't take the village out of the girl. .In some hotels they have signs not to do that.
Chocha Monger
12-10-19, 02:49
In company is when I like to do it. I like to pee on the company.Yes. Right in their faces just like Robert Kelly! The girls love it. It is great for their skin and hair.
LustWanderer
12-10-19, 10:05
Hello Gents (and possibly ladies).
Does anyone know of any places in Manila which operate like the venues in Soi 6 in Pattaya. In other words, the venue hosts the ladies but also have rooms (or just private areas) on the premises where you can do the deed? I found a place like that in Angeles (around the corner from Garfield's Last Stand, two bars next to each other with private areas upstairs, just couches though no beds but sufficient enough) and it was great because I personally don't like the idea of going to a bar, finding a girl, then leaving and having to find a short time hotel, find a taxi etc. I'd just like to go somewhere, choose the girl and have a quick session right there as well. I don't mind if it caters to locals mainly either.
TIA.
In some hotels they have signs not to do that.I know several countries where it is a sticker on every new toilet sold. I guess they got tired of warranty claims. 😁.
G.
Nobody has yet said that they have had girls squat OVER and on top of the toilet to pee. That cracked me up the first time I saw that. Why not just sit down on the toilet seat? Again. Can't take the village out of the girl. .I am not sure if everybody is aware that there are two types of toilets in Asian countries. One that is called western we know very well. There is another one just flat on the ground which many girls have in their homes. I used to find these in China quite often before they modernized. So the girls are used to squatting while peeing or shitting. Force of habit cannot be changed. Maybe they feel if they do their way they can release completely. Maybe bent legs put pressure on the bladder to empty thoroughly.
I do not like to comment on many of their behaviors which maybe alien to us. Just enjoy them.
Hello Gents (and possibly ladies).
Does anyone know of any places in Manila which operate like the venues in Soi 6 in Pattaya. In other words, the venue hosts the ladies but also have rooms (or just private areas) on the premises where you can do the deed? I found a place like that in Angeles (around the corner from Garfield's Last Stand, two bars next to each other with private areas upstairs, just couches though no beds but sufficient enough) and it was great because I personally don't like the idea of going to a bar, finding a girl, then leaving and having to find a short time hotel, find a taxi etc. I'd just like to go somewhere, choose the girl and have a quick session right there as well. I don't mind if it caters to locals mainly either.
TIA.There are several places on Burgos. Search the forum as someone posted a list a while back.
G.
WestCoast1
12-10-19, 22:22
Does anyone know of any places in Manila which operate like the venues in Soi 6 in Pattaya. In other words, the venue hosts the ladies but also have rooms (or just private areas) on the premises where you can do the deed?.Dimples and Mirrors bars, both on Burgos St near the corner of Durban St, have rather conspicuous smoked-glass separate and darkened 'private' areas you can take a girl. In Dimples bar, if you ask where the lavatory is, they will point you to the back of the bar, and you will pass thru the private area on the way to the CR, often times seeing some old codger (or two) getting a Beej or humping a gal. I believe Horizon's bar has a similar area. Don't forget to try Mixed Nuts bar (next to Ringside bar) on Burgos, corner Kalayaan St, weekends have a dance show and there is a private area in the back. You're welcome!
Member #4698
12-11-19, 02:49
Dimples and Mirrors bars, both on Burgos St near the corner of Durban St, have rather conspicuous smoked-glass separate and darkened 'private' areas you can take a girl. In Dimples bar, if you ask where the lavatory is, they will point you to the back of the bar, and you will pass thru the private area on the way to the CR, often times seeing some old codger (or two) getting a Beej or humping a gal. I believe Horizon's bar has a similar area. Don't forget to try Mixed Nuts bar (next to Ringside bar) on Burgos, corner Kalayaan St, weekends have a dance show and there is a private area in the back. You're welcome!I think Mixed Nuts is a Ladyboy bar. No?
Chocha Monger
12-11-19, 03:04
I think Mixed Nuts is a Ladyboy bar. No?Yes. That is why they call it Mixed Nuts! Steer clear if you are not into having salty nuts with your beer. Some mongers are into that sort of thing. Lucky for you that you asked before casually strolling into Mixed Nuts and getting more nuts than you bargained for.
WestCoast1
12-11-19, 12:36
Natty: Clear your PM inbox.
..........strolling into Mixed Nuts and getting more nuts than you bargained for.Back to you WestCoast1.
I had a gal offer to wash some of my clothes. She got up on the counter next to the sink, squatted, and went to work hand washing my clothes in the sink.
Nobody has yet said that they have had girls squat OVER and on top of the toilet to pee. That cracked me up the first time I saw that. Why not just sit down on the toilet seat? Again. Can't take the village out of the girl. .
Some mongers are into that sort of thing.Sounds like another bar that no one admits to going to yet is packed every night. I've lost count of the guys I've been a drinking buddy for only to find the next morning that they 'accidently' scored a Bakla. They must be blind because they often make the same 'accident' 3 times a week. 😎.
Cheers. G.
NEAR THE AIRPORT.
Flight 168 Massage.
Flight 168 is definitely a full service bordello. The setup is very similar to a high end BKK Soapie. Basically, they offer customers a couple of different fishbowls each composed of different quality or different rated girls and Flight 168 prices their girls accordingly.
Customers also have a choice in the quality of room where they take the girl. I forget the names, but it's something like 1st class, executive class, and coach class. The 1st class rooms all have jacuzzi tubs. When I was last there the VIP class girls where located on the ground floor fishbowl, one floor beneath Airforce 1 and next to Flight 168's lounge area. 168's regular girls where somewhere else. All customers must enter the building and walk through the lobby of Airforce 1 in order to proceed to Flight 168. There will be a friendly host in the AF1 lobby to greet you and show you where you want to go.
I recommend that you take a look at the 1st class girl's fishbowl..Thank you so much for this post. I just had an 11 hours layover in Manila. I followed your recommendations, and I had a pretty good time in Flight 168 (note the taxi drivers only know where Air Force One is, it is in the same build as Flight 168). I got there around 2 pm, the place is pretty empty, there is about 10 girls in the fishbowl. I picked the girl with the prettiest face, however, her body is a little overweight. I booked two hours with her in the VIP room. The room costs 3000 pesos and the girl costs 2500 pesos. The VIP room is really nice, it has a jacuzzi and a steam room. The girl's service is mediocre at best. We played with each other in the Jacuzzi, and followed by some basic BBBJ and CFS on the bed. After sex, I went into the steam room for a good 10 minutes and then she gave me a very weak massage. We got out of the room with 15 minutes left on the clock. I tipped her 5000 pesos for BBBJ. I had some food and a few drinks in the restaurant before heading back to the airport. Overall, it is a pretty good experience for a quick layover.
Member #4698
12-12-19, 17:22
Thank you so much for this post. I just had an 11 hours layover in Manila. I followed your recommendations, and I had a pretty good time in Flight 168 (note the taxi drivers only know where Air Force One is, it is in the same build as Flight 168). I got there around 2 pm, the place is pretty empty, there is about 10 girls in the fishbowl. I picked the girl with the prettiest face, however, her body is a little overweight. I booked two hours with her in the VIP room. The room costs 3000 pesos and the girl costs 2500 pesos. The VIP room is really nice, it has a jacuzzi and a steam room. The girl's service is mediocre at best. We played with each other in the Jacuzzi, and followed by some basic BBBJ and CFS on the bed. After sex, I went into the steam room for a good 10 minutes and then she gave me a very weak massage. We got out of the room with 15 minutes left on the clock. I tipped her 5000 pesos for BBBJ. I had some food and a few drinks in the restaurant before heading back to the airport. Overall, it is a pretty good experience for a quick layover.VIP Room: 3000 check.
Girl for 2 hours: 2500 check.
Service: "mediocre at best" That is unfortunate, but it happens to the best of us occasionally.
"I tipped her 5000 pesos for BBBJ": WHY? BBBJ & Covered Vaginal sex is included in the service fee. Only tip girls if they give you really good service. 200 for good service & 300 to 500 for "Thank you, darling. I really had a good time" service.
VIP Room: 3000 check.
Girl for 2 hours: 2500 check.
Service: "mediocre at best" That is unfortunate, but it happens to the best of us occasionally.
"I tipped her 5000 pesos for BBBJ": WHY? BBBJ & Covered Vaginal sex is included in the service fee. Only tip girls if they give you really good service. 200 for good service & 300 to 500 for "Thank you, darling. I really had a good time" service.Yeah, I figured that I must have been ripped off a bit. The girl wouldn't do BBBJ unless I agree to a tip. The way I see it, I either end up sitting in the airport for 10 hours, or find a place to get laid for a decent price. If I ever visit Manila for a longer term stay, I will do more homework.
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