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Sxxxx
12-12-19, 22:23
............ Why not just sit down on the toilet seat? Again. Can't take the village out of the girl..Well, I am a village boy then, have not sat on a toilet seat for about 70 odd years. Hygiene / health reasons.

TomSam
12-13-19, 01:56
Has anyone has any experience or idea of booking a girl from the website cityoflove. Some of the girls look outright unbelievably amazing. Does one just text the numbers and go from there? What are the risks of booking an independent online to come to your hotel?

Thanks for your help!

Wicked Roger
12-13-19, 20:25
Has anyone has any experience or idea of booking a girl from the website cityoflove. Some of the girls look outright unbelievably amazing. Does one just text the numbers and go from there? What are the risks of booking an independent online to come to your hotel?

Thanks for your help!Why not give a go and take one for the team rather than ask the question. There has been chatter on online escorts in the forum so RTFF and you find that advice. YMMV and depends what you want. Do you want reliability, on time, menu agreed? Do you want no clue what time they arrive and bait and switch. Lots depends on you.

Was a good post on this recently with a list of web site. Some of the girls on the sites are 'car show models', some post on Facebook, some I know but have a different name there than they say on Facebook just in case momma finds out.

So pick one and let us know as you have asked lots of questions on your FR history that totals 13.

Look forward to the FR TomSam.

LustWanderer
12-13-19, 21:40
There are several places on Burgos. Search the forum as someone posted a list a while back.

G.Thank you, I will have a search.

LustWanderer
12-13-19, 21:41
Dimples and Mirrors bars, both on Burgos St near the corner of Durban St, have rather conspicuous smoked-glass separate and darkened 'private' areas you can take a girl. In Dimples bar, if you ask where the lavatory is, they will point you to the back of the bar, and you will pass thru the private area on the way to the CR, often times seeing some old codger (or two) getting a Beej or humping a gal. I believe Horizon's bar has a similar area. Don't forget to try Mixed Nuts bar (next to Ringside bar) on Burgos, corner Kalayaan St, weekends have a dance show and there is a private area in the back. You're welcome!Thank you.

Goferring
12-13-19, 22:09
Some of the girls look outright unbelievably amazing.

What are the risks of booking an independent online to come to your hotel?

Thanks for your help!If it looks too good to be true then it generally is. Many here would argue that looks and price do not equate to quality of service. The girls are the usual mixture of 15 k princesses thru to run of the mill girls with some nice photos. I recognized a couple off the dating apps.

Risks range from not looking like her photos thru to getting drugged and loosing a kidney. I'm being melodramatic but just take the usual precautions of taking a unknown girl to your room. I do note that the site doesn't offer a turn away fee if she arrives and you don't like what you see.

I'd expect the same girls to be much less on the hookup apps: Tinder, SA, Cupid etc.

Good luck and report back if you do use them.

Enjoy. G.

PilotPaul
12-13-19, 22:53
Has anyone has any experience or idea of booking a girl from the website cityoflove. Some of the girls look outright unbelievably amazing. Does one just text the numbers and go from there? What are the risks of booking an independent online to come to your hotel?

Thanks for your help!Site looks to have lifted may profiles form other sites. https://au.trustpilot.com/review/cityoflove.com reviews tend to show the owner talking it up or disgruntled users.

Cannot see that this site is of any value in Philippines.

Engine Driver
12-13-19, 23:15
If it looks too good to be true then it generally is. Many here would argue that looks and price do not equate to quality of service. The girls are the usual mixture of 15 k princesses thru to run of the mill girls with some nice photos. I recognized a couple off the dating apps.

Risks range from not looking like her photos thru to getting drugged and loosing a kidney. I'm being melodramatic but just take the usual precautions of taking a unknown girl to your room. I do note that the site doesn't offer a turn away fee if she arrives and you don't like what you see.

I'd expect the same girls to be much less on the hookup apps: Tinder, SA, Cupid etc.

Good luck and report back if you do use them.

Enjoy. G.Having test driven the dating apps on the ground recently in Manila, this escort site you are referring to seems like ridiculously expensive rubbish. As G says, the same trash is on PL, Tinder and Wechat. The same girls keep popping up everywhere. If you really want to go the escort service route, try Smooci or Manila Courtesans. There is a turnaway fee option if you don't like the hooker that arrives and the prices are lower than the service you mentioned. Jesus, who's going to pay USD $500 a night when the same hooker will come for 3,000 pesos on Tinder?

Mr Enternational
12-14-19, 00:55
Well, I am a village boy then, have not sat on a toilet seat for about 70 odd years. Hygiene / health reasons.But have you stood on one?

Sxxxx
12-14-19, 05:19
But have you stood on one?No, I just go to the toilet when the urge comes, lower my arse, dump, and get out of there. No touching of the toilet. Certainly no standing on the toilet seat, LOL. Relevant muscles / flexibility develops over time. This started somewhere around 7/8 yrs of age, when someone told me something that put me off sitting on toilet seats forever. Forget what I was told, but it was effective.

I avoid my hands on public door knobs, using tissue / paper on knob where I can. No skin contact, LOL. The list goes on, not too extensive, not too spooky.

When in restaurants eg Angeles, I swipe fork, knife, spoon, cup with appropriate anti germ pads. Just lately, bought my own foldable fork, spoon knife set = I am the only one who eats from them. Haven't come up with an idea how to clean the plate the cooked food is already on, LOL. Have for years brought my own drinking glass (beer etc). I do not drink directly from a bottle itself. Use a swipe if my drinking glass is not with me.

"Fun, fun, its got to be fun, or forget it" .

SJobs
12-14-19, 05:40
VIP Room: 3000 check.

Girl for 2 hours: 2500 check.

Service: "mediocre at best" That is unfortunate, but it happens to the best of us occasionally.

"I tipped her 5000 pesos for BBBJ": WHY? BBBJ & Covered Vaginal sex is included in the service fee. Only tip girls if they give you really good service. 200 for good service & 300 to 500 for "Thank you, darling. I really had a good time" service.Oppos, I realized I made a typo in my original post, I tipped 500 not 5000 for BBBJ. 5000 for BBBJ in Manila would be insane.

Turgid
12-15-19, 16:41
No, I just go to the toilet when the urge comes, lower my arse, dump, and get out of there. No touching of the toilet. Certainly no standing on the toilet seat, LOL. Relevant muscles / flexibility develops over time. This started somewhere around 7/8 yrs of age, when someone told me something that put me off sitting on toilet seats forever. Forget what I was told, but it was effective.

I avoid my hands on public door knobs, using tissue / paper on knob where I can. No skin contact, LOL. The list goes on, not too extensive, not too spooky.

When in restaurants eg Angeles, I swipe fork, knife, spoon, cup with appropriate anti germ pads. Just lately, bought my own foldable fork, spoon knife set = I am the only one who eats from them. Haven't come up with an idea how to clean the plate the cooked food is already on, LOL. Have for years brought my own drinking glass (beer etc). I do not drink directly from a bottle itself. Use a swipe if my drinking glass is not with me.

"Fun, fun, its got to be fun, or forget it" .No sense asking if you use a condom. I'm guessing no DATY and no BBBJ. I agree can still be fun. (DFK?).

Mr Enternational
12-15-19, 19:28
When in restaurants eg Angeles, I swipe fork, knife, spoon, cup with appropriate anti germ pads. Just lately, bought my own foldable fork, spoon knife set = I am the only one who eats from them.How do you clean your hookers?

Dg8787
12-15-19, 19:40
How do you clean your hookers?I make mine douche with 1 part Hydrogen Peroxide and 3 parts water.

Albert9989
12-15-19, 19:53
How do you clean your hookers?For hookers, may be same as for forks, spoons, and knives? Sweep them or bring his own.

But that's a good question.

Goferring
12-15-19, 20:43
.I avoid my hands on public door knobs, using tissue / paper on knob where I can. No skin contact, LOL. The list goes on, not too extensive, not too spooky.
I love how this board covers all the different tastes. We've gone from flying Business class to meet 1000 p streetwalkers to bubble boy detoxing AC. 😁.

Sure beats the shit out of endless stories of the same bar fines being paid in the same bars to fuck the same girls. Keep it up guys!! 👍.

Enjoy. G.

NewImage
12-16-19, 06:39
I love how this board covers all the different tastes. We've gone from flying Business class to meet 1000 p streetwalkers to bubble boy detoxing AC. 😁.
Sure beats the shit out of endless stories of the same bar fines being paid in the same bars to fuck the same girls. Keep it up guys!! 👍.
Enjoy. G.Talking about hygiene etc Can anyone tell me what the f those signs mean in the toilets that say do not flush toilet paper down the toilet? Now I have seen some "others" use the bum gun LOL but really?

I don't understand so you are not suppose to wipe your arse and then put the paper in the bowl? Is it a lost in translation thing and they mean sanitary products and stuff like.

Before I left my doc gave me some soap stuff doc use to scrub up before operations. Cost a bit but hey if it prevents infection that good for me.

Hey Gof I might change my handle to Business Flight Guy. My Singapore handle just doesn't befit my current status. LOL.

Goferring
12-16-19, 07:54
Talking about hygiene etc Can anyone tell me what the f those signs mean in the toilets that say do not flush toilet paper down the toilet? Now I have seen some "others" use the bum gun LOL but really?

I don't understand so you are not suppose to wipe your arse and then put the paper in the bowl? Is it a lost in translation thing and they mean sanitary products and stuff likely.NI,

Most of Asia's plumbing is very basic and drastically undersized. Depending on the affluence of the neighborhood where you saw the sign, it might be don't flush any large sanitary pads etc or more likely its don't flush any paper products at all. If any paper tissue is to be used, there is typically a small bucket near by to dispose of it separately. For more traditional facilities there is no bucket nor paper: it's purely wash and run.

Welcome to the jungle. G.

Engine Driver
12-16-19, 10:06
Talking about hygiene etc Can anyone tell me what the f those signs mean in the toilets that say do not flush toilet paper down the toilet? Now I have seen some "others" use the bum gun LOL but really?

I don't understand so you are not suppose to wipe your arse and then put the paper in the bowl? Is it a lost in translation thing and they mean sanitary products and stuff like.

Before I left my doc gave me some soap stuff doc use to scrub up before operations. Cost a bit but hey if it prevents infection that good for me.

Hey Gof I might change my handle to Business Flight Guy. My Singapore handle just doesn't befit my current status. LOL.The butt blaster will get your ass a lot cleaner than any amount of toilet paper will. I don't know why white fat fucks are so scared to use the hose. Ever wonder why Pinay pussy and ass is generally cleaner than a white skank's ass and pussy? Water. Maybe the white fat fucks can't find their asshole amongst all the layers of fat wobbling about. Just wash your hands with soap afterwards hahaha. There's no need for toilet paper in the Philippines.

Chocha Monger
12-16-19, 14:49
How do you clean your hookers?Betadine scrub and delousing powder.

Free2
12-16-19, 17:14
NI,

Most of Asia's plumbing is very basic and drastically undersized. Depending on the affluence of the neighborhood where you saw the sign, it might be don't flush any large sanitary pads etc or more likely its don't flush any paper products at all. If any paper tissue is to be used, there is typically a small bucket near by to dispose of it separately. For more traditional facilities there is no bucket nor paper: it's purely wash and run.

Welcome to the jungle. G.Basically, Asian drain pipes are undersized for the big Porriner dumps! But I like the LBFM tight pipes! Undersized, yet beautifully snug.

Mr Enternational
12-16-19, 17:37
Talking about hygiene etc Can anyone tell me what the f those signs mean in the toilets that say do not flush toilet paper down the toilet? Now I have seen some "others" use the bum gun LOL but really?That really holds for all of the world that only human waste should be put into the toilet. And most of the world abides by that except western countries. In most countries it fucks up the plumbing all the way to the toilet, so if they do not want to be swimming in shit, then they know better not to flush it. Our systems are more modern but it can still get fucked up down in the sewage system. But hell, we can't see that so what do we care. I saw a documentary not too long ago about how London's system gets really clogged up due to that shit and mfs actually have to go down and waddle through shit to unclog it. The shit paper is supposed to biodegrade at some point, but when it does not you get the clogs. Also those bathroom wipes that they say are flushable really are not because they don't break down like normal shit paper is supposed to eventually do.

"Well, Thames Water doesn't have the power to force customers to start making big changes in their own homes. But many small solutions to the problem already exist – and while it might seem like a pain, a lot of it is common sense. Items like wet wipes, are often labelled as flushable, but they're often not biodegradable, which is a key difference. Other items that can't be flushed, like condoms, tampons and wet wipes, are often responsible for creating blockages. ".

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/sewage-environment-climate-change-london

Goferring
12-16-19, 20:15
The butt blaster will get your ass a lot cleaner than any amount of toilet paper will. I don't know why white fat fucks are so scared to use the hose. Ever wonder why Pinay pussy and ass is generally cleaner than a white skank's ass and pussy? Water. If the monger is looking for a power rimming session the least he can do is keep the area clean. The girl (s) will be much more enthusiastic if they are not puking from the smell nor choking on nuggets of shitt.

Not that I would know. . . 😀.

Enjoy. G.

Wicked Roger
12-17-19, 01:23
If the monger is looking for a power rimming session the least he can do is keep the area clean. The girl (s) will be much more enthusiastic if they are not puking from the smell nor choking on nuggets of shitt.

Not that I would know. . . 😀.

Enjoy. G.Better they see you clean it with them in the shower or you ask them to clean saying 'soon you will have your tongue all over that hole ' LOL Once they know they clean it amazingly well and are very enthusiastic. Never fails.

WestCoast1
12-17-19, 02:35
Talking about hygiene etc Can anyone tell me what the f those signs mean in the toilets that say do not flush toilet paper down the toilet? Now I have seen some "others" use the bum gun LOL but really? I don't understand so you are not suppose to wipe your arse and then put the paper in the bowl? Is it a lost in translation thing and they mean sanitary products and stuff like.


That really holds for all of the world that only human waste should be put into the toilet. And most of the world abides by that except western countries. In most countries it fucks up the plumbing all the way to the toilet, so if they do not want to be swimming in shit, then they know better not to flush it.Ok. One of life's great "aha" (or "oh sh*t") moments. You are in a mall or public place and need to take a dump RIGHT NOW. You slither into the CR and into a stall, to find the toilet has no seat on it. In your hurry, you drop your pantalones, squat, grin-and-bear it, and lighten your load. Time to wipe. There is no blaster hose in the stall. There is no toilet paper dispenser and hence no toilet paper (pooper scooper). There is only a small trash bin, filled with small pieces of tissue, each with a skid mark on it from a previous gent who was smart enough to bring some tissue into the CR with him. Used toilet paper. Nothing more.

The toilet is filled with your newly deposited brown warmth, steaming away. Your choices: 1) Don't wipe, just pull up your drawers and walk away. 2) Use some of the previously skid-marked pieces of tissue in the trash bin. WTF DO YOU DO? (Disclaimer: Not that I would know anything about this kind of hypothetical situation).

Of course, when you exit the stall to wash your hands, you notice (a bit late) the small toilet tissue dispenser on the wall next to the sink (5 pesos). Too late!

Mr Enternational
12-17-19, 04:12
Ok. One of life's great "aha" (or "oh sh*t") moments. You are in a mall or public place and need to take a dump RIGHT NOW. You slither into the CR and into a stall, to find the toilet has no seat on it. In your hurry, you drop your pantalones, squat, grin-and-bear it, and lighten your load. Time to wipe. There is no blaster hose in the stall. There is no toilet paper dispenser and hence no toilet paper (pooper scooper). LOL. Man you are a damn fool. For all the countries that I go to, I keep local currency, SIM card, and business cards that I have gathered over the years in a ziploc bag in my safe, so I can grab and go. Why does my ziploc bag for PI also has like half a roll of toilet paper in it?

Goferring
12-17-19, 04:31
LOL. Man you are a damn fool. For all the countries that I go to, I keep local currency, SIM card, and business cards that I have gathered over the years in a ziploc bag in my safe, so I can grab and go. Why does my ziploc bag for PI also has like half a roll of toilet paper in it?Isn't that why Asian currencies have such low denomination paper notes??

WestCoast1
12-17-19, 08:17
LOL. Man you are a damn fool. For all the countries that I go to, I keep local currency, SIM card, and business cards that I have gathered over the years in a ziploc bag in my safe, so I can grab and go. Why does my ziploc bag for PI also has like half a roll of toilet paper in it?Yes I too keep such contingencies. However one could forget the tissue / TP and leave it in your hotel one afternoon when departing for the mall. A damn fool, one born every minute.

The question was not how to avoid it. The question was what to do if you're in the situation. Haha using some p20 notes, good call G!

GDreams
12-17-19, 08:19
LOL. Man you are a damn fool. For all the countries that I go to, I keep local currency, SIM card, and business cards that I have gathered over the years in a ziploc bag in my safe, so I can grab and go. Why does my ziploc bag for PI also has like half a roll of toilet paper in it?I usually put some paper napkins in my pants for such occasions. Once in Mongolia I was out of luck so took the top off the cistern and did a wash with a good hand scrub after.

Turgid
12-17-19, 13:32
The butt blaster will get your ass a lot cleaner than any amount of toilet paper will. I don't know why white fat fucks are so scared to use the hose. Ever wonder why Pinay pussy and ass is generally cleaner than a white skank's ass and pussy? Water. Maybe the white fat fucks can't find their asshole amongst all the layers of fat wobbling about. Just wash your hands with soap afterwards hahaha. There's no need for toilet paper in the Philippines.I think only gays on the receiving end should be scared of the butt blaster.

NewImage
12-18-19, 06:04
Ok. One of life's great "aha" (or "oh sh*t") moments. You are in a mall or public place and need to take a dump RIGHT NOW. You slither into the CR and into a stall, to find the toilet has no seat on it. In your hurry, you drop your pantalones, squat, grin-and-bear it, and lighten your load. Time to wipe. There is no blaster hose in the stall. There is no toilet paper dispenser and hence no toilet paper (pooper scooper). There is only a small trash bin, filled with small pieces of tissue, each with a skid mark on it from a previous gent who was smart enough to bring some tissue into the CR with him. Used toilet paper. Nothing more.
The toilet is filled with your newly deposited brown warmth, steaming away. Your choices: 1) Don't wipe, just pull up your drawers and walk away. 2) Use some of the previously skid-marked pieces of tissue in the trash bin. WTF DO YOU DO? (Disclaimer: Not that I would know anything about this kind of hypothetical situation).
Of course, when you exit the stall to wash your hands, you notice (a bit late) the small toilet tissue dispenser on the wall next to the sink (5 pesos). Too late!Was in Penang a few years ago and was walking around when suddenly felt the need to do an almighty shit and it was emergency stations. Now I usually carry but this time FFS not. I had had some mango, paw paw and other fruit for bfast and it was coming fast. You know that walk where you are trying to keep it in and walk fast at the same time. LOL funny now but.

A bit starts to dribble out. F*ck- finally made it to "comfort room" raced in and exploded- and I mean exploded. With out going into detail. You know how they talk about projectile vomit. Anyway looked around no paper. Looked everywhere, nup. So luckily had underwear that acted as some form of a wipe but had some on shorts, soxs, f*in everywhere. So did the best I could. Must have smelt like shit. Hailed a taxi and back to hotel with wet arse, sign of just washed poo everywhere. LOL only once.

NI.

Nice Guy 99
12-18-19, 06:40
Talking about hygiene etc I don't understand so you are not suppose to wipe your arse and then put the paper in the bowl? Is it a lost in translation thing and they mean sanitary products and stuff like..Give a cursory wipe and then join your WG. Ask her to clean you with a warm wash cloth and then lick you deeply. Feels very nice.

WestCoast1
12-18-19, 10:36
A bit starts to dribble out. F*ck- finally made it to "comfort room" raced in and exploded- and I mean exploded. With out going into detail. You know how they talk about projectile vomit. Anyway looked around no paper. Looked everywhere, nup. So luckily had underwear that acted as some form of a wipe but had some on shorts, soxs, f*in everywhere. So did the best I could. Must have smelt like shit. Hailed a taxi and back to hotel with wet arse, sign of just washed poo everywhere. LOL only once.Haha OK! Remember how before I complained that NI was asking too many questions, and probably would not give any Field Reports? Then, he comes along and does the right thing with a bunch of quality FR's? OMG. TMI there fella!

NewImage
12-18-19, 11:03
Haha OK! Remember how before I complained that NI was asking too many questions, and probably would not give any Field Reports? Then, he comes along and does the right thing with a bunch of quality FR's? OMG. TMI there fella!I am true to my word. And in detail too. Its all shits and giggles to me. LOL.

WestCoast1
12-18-19, 13:54
Its all shits and giggles to me. LOL.Ya, but tongue-in-cheek, right?

NewImage
12-19-19, 04:24
Ya, but tongue-in-cheek, right?Been having a few convo with girls over here. Man most are so f*in dumb- forget innuendo, sarcasm or any other forms of "alternate" communication of an intellectual nature.

Like the other day when I wanted Tea. English bfast. And she bought the tea and asked how I would like my eggs? Fertilised I said under my breath.

You can put shit on them in a convo and they have no idea. Its hard to get into their mind set or intellectual ability. Its like eat, sleep, fuck, repeat. No need for Maslow's higher levels here LOL.

NI.

Free2
12-23-19, 10:10
Was in Penang a few years ago and was walking around when suddenly felt the need to do an almighty shit and it was emergency stations. Now I ....Once I was in one of the crummy malls in Divisoria and suddenly the urge hit to crap and it was bad. I could hardly hold it in and I knew it was a liquid creamy one! I rushed around asking for directions to the nearest toilet and we all know filipinos sense of direction mixed with their fear of saving face to a white guy it doesn't go well. Finally, I found it and there was a line up. It was a single door for men and women, some had shopping bags. Oh boy. I was so desperate but I was close so managed to hold things at bay for a few minutes.

Once inside I could see that there was no toilet seat so I crouched and prepared for the blast. I aimed myself squarely over the bowl and let go. I never knew up to that point the angle of projectile that comes out of our arses. It is not 90 degrees straight down. It is more like 45 degrees to the rear!

The back and down one side of the bowl, and the wall behind the toilet were coated with spray. It was a disgusting, stinky mess. There was no way I would be able to clean up, especially with a line up of people outside. I can't remember if there was toilet paper, but what I do remember is just getting the hell out of there as fast as I could. I still feel sorry for the person behind me in that line.

SEAtraveller
12-24-19, 03:18
Been having a few convo with girls over here. Man most are so f*in dumb- forget innuendo, sarcasm or any other forms of "alternate" communication of an intellectual nature. NI.I came to the same conclusion as I've been doing the rounds on the dating apps 2 months prior to arriving. I've stopped as I couldn't handle the convos anymore.

I later came to the realization that they are not particularly stupid. The reasons why we ain't able to have a conversation with them are:

1. Language barrier. English is not their primary language;.

2. Cultural differences. Differences in sarcasm levels / jokes / lingo / names;.

3. Traditional Asian women are typically trained to be demure around men;.

4. Poorer. Lower quality education, lack of travel, interaction with foreigners. You don't have time to read about international events when you're struggling to feed yourself;.

5. Demographics. They are the lowest social class. We don't associate with school dropouts / TAFE graduates from werribee / frankston (poor crappy suburbs of Melbourne, Australia). My dear Filipino friend from a rich family told me that he would not bang a hot girl from a lower class. This shows you the degree of social stratification in the Philippines.

As such I'm sure there are very intelligent Filipino women who would be amazing to talk / spend time with. But these quality women would have no interest in interacting with us solo male mongering tourists.

You need to "reframe" to be happy. See these overseas sex as just that. Solely to find and bang pussy.

If you want to have a good conversation then meet ISG brothers or intelligent people from the local population.

Paladin30
12-24-19, 07:14
I am a local of Iloilo City (central part of the Philippines). Every couple months, I go on a business trip to Manila and take a chance to have sex with girls there. Recently, I almost exclusively use Smooci because I am a "lazy" guy. Despite the high price, I save myself the hassle of time and having to go outdoors and negotiate.

My latest experience was with an escort named Erin. I have to say she was one of the best escorts I have been with. Very nice and sweet girl and she even wears matching fishnet stockings to add to the arousement. Physically, she has a pretty face, with a body on the slim side (small boobs, flat belly, decent ass). Although I make it a point to not book the same escort twice, she will be an exception because I enjoyed my time with her so much.

NewImage
12-25-19, 06:22
I came to the same conclusion as I've been doing the rounds on the dating apps 2 months prior to arriving. I've stopped as I couldn't handle the convos anymore.
I later came to the realization that they are not particularly stupid. The reasons why we ain't able to have a conversation with them are:
1. Language barrier. English is not their primary language;.2. Cultural differences. Differences in sarcasm levels / jokes / lingo / names;.
3. Traditional Asian women are typically trained to be demure around men;.4. Poorer. Lower quality education, lack of travel, interaction with foreigners. You don't have time to read about international events when you're struggling to feed yourself;.
5. Demographics. They are the lowest social class. We don't associate with school dropouts / TAFE graduates from werribee / frankston (poor crappy suburbs of Melbourne, Australia). My dear Filipino friend from a rich family told me that he would not bang a hot girl from a lower class. This shows you the degree of social stratification in the Philippines.As such I'm sure there are very intelligent Filipino women who would be amazing to talk / spend time with. But these quality women would have no interest in interacting with us solo male mongering tourists.You need to "reframe" to be happy. See these overseas sex as just that. Solely to find and bang pussy.If you want to have a good conversation then meet ISG brothers or intelligent people from the local population.It would appear that most Filipino's WG can disassociate their pussies from their bodies and their minds. They don't want to kiss, talk or spend any longer than they have to with you -if its ST they are doing you a favour by letting you use their pussy. They think by taking their clothes off, flicking your nipples and grabbing your cock you are ready to blow in 2 minutes. They have gotten so used to Filipino guys who blow and go, K and other Asians who wouldn't know what foreplay is and drunk dumb Westerners who have been married for 30 years and now think a 24 year old Skank is their fantasy come true. Now I don't want a quantum physics discussion but I do want to feel their is a person inside that shell not just an orifice to use. As the line goes from the GG - "you want too much!

NI.

SEAtraveller
12-25-19, 12:56
It would appear that most Filipino's WG can disassociate their pussies from their bodies and their minds. NI.They would have to in order to protect themselves emotionally and psychologically.

There wouldn't be much to talk about except for their hardship: poverty / abuse / neglect.

There wouldn't be sufficient points of commonality so what's the point?

And yes, you want bloody too much. Viet WGs are more interesting to talk to as they tend to have long term plans -more admirable.

NewImage
12-26-19, 04:46
They would have to in order to protect themselves emotionally and psychologically.
There wouldn't be much to talk about except for their hardship: poverty / abuse / neglect.
There wouldn't be sufficient points of commonality so what's the point?
And yes, you want bloody too much. Viet WGs are more interesting to talk to as they tend to have long term plans -more admirable.And that's why its always good to come home.

Kerrstar
12-26-19, 06:39
5. Demographics. They are the lowest social class. We don't associate with school dropouts / TAFE graduates from werribee / frankston (poor crappy suburbs of Melbourne, Australia).
Dude, I'm from Frankston. I have a BEng, MBA and LLM. Not all of us from there are bogan trash.

Engine Driver
12-26-19, 07:13
I am a local of Iloilo City (central part of the Philippines). Every couple months, I go on a business trip to Manila and take a chance to have sex with girls there. Recently, I almost exclusively use Smooci because I am a "lazy" guy. Despite the high price, I save myself the hassle of time and having to go outdoors and negotiate.

My latest experience was with an escort named Erin. I have to say she was one of the best escorts I have been with. Very nice and sweet girl and she even wears matching fishnet stockings to add to the arousement. Physically, she has a pretty face, with a body on the slim side (small boobs, flat belly, decent ass). Although I make it a point to not book the same escort twice, she will be an exception because I enjoyed my time with her so much.Erin has a Smooci rating of only 3.9, which is too low for any experienced monger to go with. No one in Manila would take that risk and book her, considering all the talent available at their fingertips.

Thampi62
12-26-19, 07:16
I am a local of Iloilo City (central part of the Philippines). Every couple months, I go on a business trip to Manila and take a chance to have sex with girls there. Recently, I almost exclusively use Smooci because I am a "lazy" guy. Despite the high price, I save myself the hassle of time and having to go outdoors and negotiate.

My latest experience was with an escort named Erin. I have to say she was one of the best escorts I have been with. Very nice and sweet girl and she even wears matching fishnet stockings to add to the arousement. Physically, she has a pretty face, with a body on the slim side (small boobs, flat belly, decent ass). Although I make it a point to not book the same escort twice, she will be an exception because I enjoyed my time with her so much.Hi friend.

You can collect her number and join with her next time directly. It will be more fun and not time bound. Don't forget to share the number to fellow mongers of the forum. LOL.

Enjoy and keep going.

Paladin30
12-26-19, 11:00
Erin has a Smooci rating of only 3.9, which is too low for any experienced monger to go with. No one in Manila would take that risk and book her, considering all the talent available at their fingertips.You are referring to a different Erin, bro.

https://smooci.com/escorts/lukpMR

This is the one I meant, having a perfect five.

Engine Driver
12-26-19, 21:33
You are referring to a different Erin, bro.

https://smooci.com/escorts/lukpMR

This is the one I meant, having a perfect five.All good. At least the horny mongers now know which Erin not to choose.

Paladin30
12-27-19, 10:20
All good. At least the horny mongers now know which Erin not to choose.They will be horny the moment she gets out of the bathroom.

Sammyt
01-02-20, 16:40
I had to stop a night in Manila recently, and having read all the reports here and on other sites I made a visit to the LA Cafe. It was midnight and full to bursting point with freelancers. But on the 80/20 rule I'd say that only 20% looked attractive enough to shag. 20% of a shitload is still good odds tho! I was shown to a bar stool by a waitress and as soon as she'd left with my order I was accosted by a group of girls wanting to keep me company. Unfortunately they were of the 80% I wouldn't touch and were spoiling my view of the bar and the bar's view of me, effectively cock blocking me, a most annoying waste of my time. As soon as this group of girls got the message and left I was joined by another unattractive cock blocker. This was repeated a couple of time until I eventually caught the eye of a little brown skinned cutie with long curly hair and a tight white t-shirt. She smiled and I smiled back. The cock blocker was still there so I waved the cutie over and offered her a drink. The cock blocker left. Hint taken! So cutie said she was Charmaine, 26 from Boracay. I asked her how much to come back to my hotel and she h-ball quoted 4000 PHP short time. After a short negotiation we agreed on 2500 . I realise with hindsight that that was probably too much, so I apologise for spoiling the market. It was my first time here.

Back to the hotel and we showered together and got down to business. She was GFE from the start, plenty of DFK. I sucked her tits and fingered her pussy gently, while she played with my dick. She was soaking wet and moaning enthusiastically. On with a condom and I entered her missionary. She moved her hips in sync and wrapped her legs around me while I worked up a good rhythm and she said she came. Then we moved to cowgirl. She was able to changed pace and rode me enthusiastically, changing from back and forth to up and down until I eventually blew by load. After a very quick kiss and cuddle she was getting dressed and running out of the door 2500 pesos better off.

Face 9.

Body 8.

Skills 8.

Attitude 6.

If I find myself in Manila again I would probably pay another visit to LA Cafe but the cock blocking by the fatties and derelicts is annoying. It is also in a shitty area that is more shitty after dark.

Member #4698
01-02-20, 17:58
I had to stop a night in Manila recently, and having read all the reports here and on other sites I made a visit to the LA Cafe. It was midnight and full to bursting point with freelancers. But on the 80/20 rule I'd say that only 20% looked attractive enough to shag. <snip> I asked her how much to come back to my hotel and she h-ball quoted 4000 PHP short time. After a short negotiation we agreed on 2500 . I realise with hindsight that that was probably too much, so I apologise for spoiling the market. It was my first time here.

Back to the hotel and we showered together and got down to business. She was GFE from the start, plenty of DFK. I sucked her tits and fingered her pussy gently, while she played with my dick. She was soaking wet and moaning enthusiastically. On with a condom and I entered her missionary. She moved her hips in sync and wrapped her legs around me while I worked up a good rhythm and she said she came. Then we moved to cowgirl. She was able to changed pace and rode me enthusiastically, changing from back and forth to up and down until I eventually blew by load. After a very quick kiss and cuddle she was getting dressed and running out of the door 2500 pesos better off.

Face 9. Body 8. Skills 8. Attitude 6.

If I find myself in Manila again I would probably pay another visit to LA Cafe but the cock blocking by the fatties and derelicts is annoying. It is also in a shitty area that is more shitty after dark.This is how its done. Great report Sammy. I hate the "cock blockers" too. LOL.

Sxxxx
01-02-20, 21:23
This is how its done. Great report Sammy. I hate the "cock blockers" too. LOL.Yes that was a good La Cafe report and a helpful guide to anyone who has yet to go there.

Appreciated.

Chocha Monger
01-03-20, 01:43
Yes that was a good La Cafe report and a helpful guide to anyone who has yet to go there.

Appreciated.Anyone going to LA Caf to get laid should carry a dog whistle. Yes. The women there are that ugly!

Wicked Roger
01-03-20, 05:58
I had to stop a night in Manila recently, and having read all the reports here and on other sites I made a visit to the LA Cafe.
If I find myself in Manila again I would probably pay another visit to LA Cafe but the cock blocking by the fatties and derelicts is annoying. It is also in a shitty area that is more shitty after dark.Good FR Sammy and one many newbs should rad and understand rather than ask questions. Good read.

LAC is not my cup of tea, been there, got T shirt and now won't return. Friends wife goes there to pick up for sex parties as lives nearby but for me the quality has always been questionable.

The rea after dark not good IMHO and having been 'stopped' by the police while in the taxi more than once, it is a place I like to avoid, But YMMV.

Engine Driver
01-03-20, 08:52
Yes that was a good La Cafe report and a helpful guide to anyone who has yet to go there.

Appreciated.Dear Mr Sxxxx, while WR is on a well deserved break, you are doing an excellent job as his fill in and responding to PMs from newbies. You should ask for a pay rise.

LuvAsianTang
01-03-20, 13:34
I tried this request in other areas with little response so I'm trying it here.

Hello fellow punters, I just moved to tanza cavite and I'm looking for some massage / happy pee pee action. Can anyone head me in the right direction? The little wifie is away and I feel the need to play. Thanks in advance, LAT.

Free2
01-03-20, 14:17
I had to stop a night in Manila recently, and having read all the reports here and on other sites I made a visit to the LA Cafe. It was midnight and full to bursting point with freelancers. But on the 80/20 rule I'd say that only 20% looked attractive enough to shag. 20% of a shitload is still good odds tho! I was shown to a bar stool by a waitress and as soon as she'd left with my order I was accosted by a group of girls wanting to keep me company. Unfortunately they were of the 80% I wouldn't touch and were spoiling my view of the bar and the bar's view of me, effectively cock blocking me, a most annoying waste of my time. As soon as this group of girls got the message and left I was joined by another unattractive cock blocker. This was repeated a couple of time until I eventually caught the eye of a little brown skinned cutie with long curly hair and a tight white t-shirt. She smiled and I smiled back. The cock blocker was still there so I waved the cutie over and offered her a drink. The cock blocker left. Hint taken! So cutie said she was Charmaine, 26 from Boracay. I asked her how much to come back to my hotel and she h-ball quoted 4000 PHP short time. After a short negotiation we agreed on 2500 . I realise with hindsight that that was probably too much, so I apologise for spoiling the market. It was my first time here.

Back to the hotel and we showered together and got down to business. She was GFE from the start, plenty of DFK. I sucked her tits and fingered her pussy gently, while she played with my dick. She was soaking wet and moaning enthusiastically. On with a condom and I entered her missionary. She moved her hips in sync and wrapped her legs around me while I worked up a good rhythm and she said she came. Then we moved to cowgirl. She was able to changed pace and rode me enthusiastically, changing from back and forth to up and down until I eventually blew by load. After a very quick kiss and cuddle she was getting dressed and running out of the door 2500 pesos better off.

Face 9.

Body 8.

Skills 8.

Attitude 6.

If I find myself in Manila again I would probably pay another visit to LA Cafe but the cock blocking by the fatties and derelicts is annoying. It is also in a shitty area that is more shitty after dark.Great report, man. Love it when guys jump into the deep end!

My only word of advice is do not let the cock blockers slow you down for 1 second. I have never thought of them as cock blockers because I nicely send them on their way as soon as they show the slightest interest.

Also, don't let the waitress show you where to sit. Walk in like you own the place, walk around. The old heifers saw you as a newbie and pounced immediately. They saw you allow the server show you a seat. They also probably saw you walk in and stop. Wide eyed!! Hahahaha!! I am not ridiculing you at all, we all have the first time! It is just to pass on some knowledge for all the other newbies coming along. If I cant find a place to sit I TELL the waiter where I want to sit and she will kick the girls away from the table (who are just sitting there doing jack shit). The girls go scurrying.

Old heifers never bother me there because they see that I know it it works. Just wave them off. They get it.

Sxxxx
01-03-20, 15:57
Dear Mr Sxxxx, while WR is on a well deserved break, you are doing an excellent job as his fill in and responding to PMs from newbies. You should ask for a pay rise.Fortunately for me, WR is back from his short break. Where would ISG be without him?

I don't know how or where he finds the energy and time to respond to all those unpaid members questions.

There is a place for him in Monger Heaven.

Sxxxx
01-03-20, 16:06
Anyone going to LA Caf to get laid should carry a dog whistle. Yes. The women there are that ugly!I find, if you enter La Cafe you do not need even a dog whistle, they all come running towards you.

Short, fat, old, doesn't seem to worry them at all.

I'm talking about the girls, not me.

MohdirFan82
01-03-20, 16:56
I used to go to L. A cafe, and I never paid more than 1000 Peso, and one time I paid 1500 peso because she went above and beyond. I hardly see a good quality FLs in LA cafe.


I had to stop a night in Manila recently, and having read all the reports here and on other sites I made a visit to the LA Cafe. It was midnight and full to bursting point with freelancers. But on the 80/20 rule I'd say that only 20% looked attractive enough to shag. 20% of a shitload is still good odds tho! I was shown to a bar stool by a waitress and as soon as she'd left with my order I was accosted by a group of girls wanting to keep me company. Unfortunately they were of the 80% I wouldn't touch and were spoiling my view of the bar and the bar's view of me, effectively cock blocking me, a most annoying waste of my time. As soon as this group of girls got the message and left I was joined by another unattractive cock blocker. This was repeated a couple of time until I eventually caught the eye of a little brown skinned cutie with long curly hair and a tight white t-shirt. She smiled and I smiled back. The cock blocker was still there so I waved the cutie over and offered her a drink. The cock blocker left. Hint taken! So cutie said she was Charmaine, 26 from Boracay. I asked her how much to come back to my hotel and she h-ball quoted 4000 PHP short time. After a short negotiation we agreed on 2500 . I realise with hindsight that that was probably too much, so I apologise for spoiling the market. It was my first time here.

Back to the hotel and we showered together and got down to business. She was GFE from the start, plenty of DFK. I sucked her tits and fingered her pussy gently, while she played with my dick. She was soaking wet and moaning enthusiastically. On with a condom and I entered her missionary..

Chocha Monger
01-04-20, 05:26
I find, if you enter La Cafe you do not need even a dog whistle, they all come running towards you.

Short, fat, old, doesn't seem to worry them at all.

I'm talking about the girls, not me.Yes. They come running and barking, even the toothless ones. Anyone planning on take out had better have a leash and collar handy. Once an entire pack rushed me and I yelled at the waitress, "Who let the dogs out?

Sxxxx
01-04-20, 21:22
Yes. They come running and barking, even the toothless ones. Anyone planning on take out had better have a leash and collar handy. Once an entire pack rushed me and I yelled at the waitress, "Who let the dogs out?Brings back memories of that favourite song "Who let the dogs out" , and Cebu years ago, when I was doing "doggie' on a girl and called out "Woof woof" as I did her. Must take a copy of that song with me next trip, and, re-enact my youth, and Cebu years ago.

WR, have you got any doggie stories or suggestions?

Wicked Roger
01-05-20, 13:26
Brings back memories of that favourite song "Who let the dogs out" , and Cebu years ago, when I was doing "doggie' on a girl and called out "Woof woof" as I did her. Must take a copy of that song with me next trip, and, re-enact my youth, and Cebu years ago.

WR, have you got any doggie stories or suggestions?LOL.

Never done that and I never play with 'dogs' as I have standards. Mates take one for team me never as why waste the good stuff on a fugly.

Only dog type things are the leash and collars used in the BDSM and bondage games the cuties like to play LOL.

Chocha Monger
01-05-20, 19:34
LOL.

Never done that and I never play with 'dogs' as I have standards. Mates take one for team me never as why waste the good stuff on a fugly.

Only dog type things are the leash and collars used in the BDSM and bondage games the cuties like to play LOL.Things can get pretty wild like a lion in the jungle when the studded dog collar and leather leash comes out. There is nothing quite like fucking a leashed and collared Pinay in the arse as she howls at the moon on the balcony of high-rise Manila condo. Ah-woooooooo!

Sxxxx
01-05-20, 23:25
Things can get pretty wild like a lion in the jungle when the studded dog collar and leather leash comes out. There is nothing quite like fucking a leashed and collared Pinay in the arse as she howls at the moon on the balcony of high-rise Manila condo. Ah-woooooooo!Never a truer word spoken. These guys are into 'doggie' more than they admit.

Myself, I have graduated to 'Missionary position' , girl on her back, legs open. Simple but satisfying.

Nothing worse than withdrawing from doggie to find a lob of shit on your dick!

Paladin30
01-06-20, 03:21
Just wondering if anyone had experiences with girls from Eastern Europe (eg Russia, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine etc) be it from the streets, bars, Smooci or any other agencies. Are they worth the premium when you compare their price to Filipinas?

Before someone would respond to me and ask why look for them when I am in PH, I am a resident Filipino so I get the chance to fuck Filipinas on a frequent basis. I want something different as I do not know when I could travel to Europe again.

Sxxxx
01-06-20, 03:39
Things can get pretty wild like a lion in the jungle when the studded dog collar and leather leash comes out. There is nothing quite like fucking a leashed and collared Pinay in the arse as she howls at the moon on the balcony of high-rise Manila condo. Ah-woooooooo!Thanks for your usual 'wisened' information.

I often wondered why the girls howled, like it was full moon, when there was no moon!

Now I know, and will remember to leave my leash and studded collar back home.

I prefer the happy "woof, woof" to the complaining "howl" anytime.

D Cups
01-06-20, 12:31
Anyone going to LA Caf to get laid should carry a dog whistle. Yes. The women there are that ugly!Yes mostly but I have had some 7's there in the past even at 6 AM! Well, my flight just came in that early.

Nice Guy 99
01-06-20, 20:52
These guys are into 'doggie' more than they admit.

Myself, I have graduated to 'Missionary position' , girl on her back, legs open. Simple but satisfying.

Nothing worse than withdrawing from doggie to find a lob of shit on your dick!Errr, Sxxxx. There are doggie options. Two holes are available. Suggest you pound the lower of the two unless you have taught your partner the art of the enema. (which I highly recommend).

Sxxxx
01-06-20, 21:02
Errr, Sxxxx. There are doggie options. Two holes are available. Suggest you pound the lower of the two unless you have taught your partner the art of the enema. (which I highly recommend).LOL, good one. Trying to protect the 'innocent' , of which I am not one, LOL.

Woof, woof.

AussieGaigin
01-06-20, 22:32
Just wondering if anyone had experiences with girls from Eastern Europe (eg Russia, Latvia, Estonia, Ukraine etc) be it from the streets, bars, Smooci or any other agencies. Are they worth the premium when you compare their price to Filipinas?

Before someone would respond to me and ask why look for them when I am in PH, I am a resident Filipino so I get the chance to fuck Filipinas on a frequent basis. I want something different as I do not know when I could travel to Europe again.I can't advise on the Phil's scene, but there seems to be a good assortment of such foreign workers in Singapore, maybe a bit more convenient. Have a look through that section of ISG.

Sxxxx
01-07-20, 01:37
On 2nd thoughts, just realized there are Eastern European prostitutes working in Pattaya Thailand.

No visa required under South East Asian arrangements.

Cheap air fare with Cebu Pacific.

Low priced accommodation everywhere.

Blonde bushy pussies.

Either or both check the Pattaya thread of ISG and / or approach Mr E of the International School of Mongering, he lives in Pattaya and might be able to help in response to all the help we get from Pinoys / Filipinos to secure attractive girls in the Philippines. Which is nil or close to nil, LOL.

Have fun, but you will require mun (money) and paid in advance. Trust will be an issue.

"Fun, or forget it" , is what I say.

Paladin30
01-07-20, 08:54
I had a three-hour session last night with Rasian. While I generally dislike girls because of their immature behavior, she is an exception (she is 21 BTW). Only downside is that her blowjob isn't bare but it doesn't matter because she is quite skilled for her age. The fuck is great as she has a tight pussy even for a not-so-huge dick like me. And she makes love with passion, with natural moans unlike what you hear in porn. She's also a nice conversationalist, and I learned so much about the escorting market in the Philippines. Cute face, with medium be sized boobs and round ass. She is short and has a bit of fat.

My assessment.

Face - 8.

Body - 8 (I would give higher rating if she tones her body and lose the fat).

Professionalism - 9.

Free2
01-07-20, 17:11
I had a three-hour session last night with Rasian. While I generally dislike girls because of their immature behavior, she is an exception (she is 21 BTW). Only downside is that her blowjob isn't bare but it doesn't matter because she is quite skilled for her age. The fuck is great as she has a tight pussy even for a not-so-huge dick like me. And she makes love with passion, with natural moans unlike what you hear in porn. She's also a nice conversationalist, and I learned so much about the escorting market in the Philippines. Cute face, with medium be sized boobs and round ass. She is short and has a bit of fat.

My assessment.

Face - 8.

Body - 8 (I would give higher rating if she tones her body and lose the fat).

Professionalism - 9.Hey Paladin30. I will be in Ilo Ilo soon and I have a couple questions for a local. Your profile does not allow PM's. Can you change that?

Paladin30
01-07-20, 17:48
Hey Paladin30. I will be in Ilo Ilo soon and I have a couple questions for a local. Your profile does not allow PM's. Can you change that?Sorry, I am from there but I do not know the sex scene right now as I avoid them. Because I know many people (and vice-versa), my private life is compromised and I do not want others talking about my mongering.

InternationalXXX
01-07-20, 21:29
Visiting Manila in two days and got caught short and can't resupply Any tips from anyone on here about sourcing preferably real Cialis or similar in Manila? (I prefer Cialis over Viagra because of it's long duration, for me 2 days normally with a larger pill).

Any help gratefully received!

Member #4698
01-08-20, 02:59
Visiting Manila in two days and got caught short and can't resupply Any tips from anyone on here about sourcing preferably real Cialis or similar in Manila? (I prefer Cialis over Viagra because of it's long duration, for me 2 days normally with a larger pill).
I am afraid that you may be out of luck when it comes to sourcing real pharmaceutical Cialis in MNL. A couple of years back I was told by several reliable sources that Cialis was no longer available in the PI. That the importer had lost its Philippine license or something. And if the legal stuff is not available even with a prescription, I sure as hell would not fool around with the street crud. There is no telling what that stuff is.

The good news is that there is no trouble buying pharmaceutical Viagra or its generic Sildenafil Citrate in MNL Mercury Pharmacies. Just ask and if the counter person questions you, tell her / him you have an American / Australian prescription but ran out. You can buy just about any amount within reason.

Everyone is different, but I prefer Viagra over Cialis. It seems stronger and more reliable to me and for some reason the effect seems to last for me for 12 hours (overnight). My doctor tells me that I probably don't have a full blown ED problem and that would explain why Viagra seems to last so long for me. I don't know, but I do know that when I want a hard on made of steel, guaranteed, Viagra is my preferred choice.

P.S. I did not buy any pharmacy Viagra last time I was in MNL. Generic Viagra is now available in the USA for a reasonable price with a prescription. 80 100 MG Sildenafil Citrate pills (2 prescription bottles) and a sharp pill cutter is all I need for a 2 month SE Asian romp.

Araconda
01-08-20, 03:12
Visiting Manila in two days and got caught short and can't resupply Any tips from anyone on here about sourcing preferably real Cialis or similar in Manila? (I prefer Cialis over Viagra because of it's long duration, for me 2 days normally with a larger pill).


You can't buy Sildenafil Citrate in any pharmacy here in Philippines now without prescription ..but I can help you to have them with the help of my nurse friends

Any help gratefully received!You can't buy Sildenafil Citrate in any pharmacy here in Philippines now without prescription. But I can help you to have them with the help of my nurse friends.

SEAtraveller
01-08-20, 09:27
Generic Viagra is now available in the USA for a reasonable price with a prescription. 80 100 MG Sildenafil Citrate pills (2 prescription bottles) and a sharp pill cutter is all I need for a 2 month SE Asian romp.How much do you pay for the 80 X sildenafil 100 MG in the US?

Dg8787
01-08-20, 16:42
You can't buy Sildenafil Citrate in any pharmacy here in Philippines now without prescription. But I can help you to have them with the help of my nurse friends.Just go to a PH doctor and get a prescription for it.

Member #4698
01-08-20, 17:07
How much do you pay for the 80 X sildenafil 100 MG in the US?The local Costco Pharmacy near my home charges $46 for 30 100 MG tablets of Sildenafil Citrate manufactured by Teva Pharmaceuticals. I could probably buy it for less on the internet, but I am ok with this price. The quality is very high. I no longer have a need to buy this medication in MNL or Jakarta where I used to make my annual purchases without a prescription.

Dg8787
01-08-20, 17:27
The local Costco Pharmacy near my home charges $46 for 30 100 MG tablets of Sildenafil Citrate manufactured by Teva Pharmaceuticals. I could probably buy it for less on the internet, but I am ok with this price. The quality is very high. I no longer have a need to buy this medication in MNL or Jakarta where I used to make my annual purchases without a prescription.NB, thanks for the info. Much cheaper than in PH. I was paying P200-250 for 100 MG in PH.

Btw, I was getting heartburn and ringing in my ears from the real viagra but not from the generic in PH.

Any difference in Costco and PH generics?

JesseJames
01-08-20, 17:38
NB, thanks for the info. Much cheaper than in PH. I was paying P200-250 for 100 MG in PH.

Btw, I was getting heartburn and ringing in my ears from the real viagra but not from the generic in PH.

Any difference in Costco and PH generics?My nyc pharmacy charges $40 per 50 MG pill.

Member #4698
01-08-20, 20:20
Btw, I was getting heartburn and ringing in my ears from the real viagra but not from the generic in PH.

Any difference in Costco and PH generics?I was getting a slight sensation in the ears from both the Viagra Pfizer (non generic) and the generic Sildenafil I bought in MNL & Jakarta pharmacies signalling that the drug was starting to take effect, but I get nada sensation from the generic product made by Teva Pharmaceuticals and bought at Costco USA. That is one of the reasons I like it so much.

I take 2 Tylenol Extra Strength 500 MG Caplets to avoid the headache which I occasionally used to get from the Viagra Pfizer product and the generic product bought in MNL and Jakarta Pharmacies. I purchase Tylenol at Costco too, Ha Ha, for $14.5 per bottle (325 caplets). Habit and a little trepidation, I guess, keeps me using the Tylenol along with the generic USA bought Sildenafil and not testing to see if a headache would still occur without the Tylenol. The combination works perfectly, so why fool around.

Dg8787
01-08-20, 21:12
I was getting a slight sensation in the ears from both the Viagra Pfizer (non generic) and the generic Sildenafil I bought in MNL & Jakarta pharmacies signalling that the drug was starting to take effect, but I get nada sensation from the generic product made by Teva Pharmaceuticals and bought at Costco USA. That is one of the reasons I like it so much.

I take 2 Tylenol Extra Strength 500 MG Caplets to avoid the headache which I occasionally used to get from the Viagra Pfizer product and the generic product bought in MNL and Jakarta Pharmacies. I purchase Tylenol at Costco too, Ha Ha, for $14.5 per bottle (325 caplets). Habit and a little trepidation, I guess, keeps me using the Tylenol along with the generic USA bought Sildenafil and not testing to see if a headache would still occur without the Tylenol. The combination works perfectly, so why fool around.I do the exact same thing. 2 x500 MG of Tylenol from Costco. I got the tip from ISG years ago. It might have been you who posted it.

Btw, generic V lasts me 14 hours! Especially if I am on low fat diet.

SeaTraveler
01-08-20, 22:27
OMG* There are so many ladyboys on Tinder in the Philippines. There were none when I used it last year in Jakarta.

I remember reading somewhere on the forum that LB have real girls as friends and that friend hookups with them are possible.

I did have one LB that kept messageing me and just wanted to be friends. No sex. I have a firm "no penis" policy in my dates.

Can anyone expound on this topic please.

Thanks, Traveler.

Albert9989
01-08-20, 22:48
I am using Tantan, from home, France, and I get very nice results. Lot of girls on it in Phil. I do searches in Cebu, with an app which changes my GPS location, and it work nicely. Same behavior than Tinder I guess, but may be more easy to log in with your phoe number only. On Tinder I am always requested to enter an email adress for verification, here nothing more.

Some LB also, and they don't warn at start, but very quickly if you try to chat with them.

And I din't tried to get girls contacts through them. Should try.

But Tantan seems definitely a good way to find contacts.

Red Kilt
01-09-20, 13:06
You can't buy Sildenafil Citrate in any pharmacy here in Philippines now without prescription. But I can help you to have them with the help of my nurse friends.Totally wrong information from a new poster.

I bought 2 boxes (10 tabs) of (generic) Rite Med Sildenifil 100 mgm this afternoon (Thursday) at a pharmacy near my condo.

I've been buying generic sildenifil for at least 2 years. Absolutely NEVER been asked for a prescription. Doesn't matter whether it's Mercury Drug or Watson's.

I break it in half along the groove as 50 MG works very nicely for me.

GoodEnough
01-09-20, 15:26
Totally wrong information from a new poster.

I bought 2 boxes (10 tabs) of (generic) Rite Med Sildenifil 100 mgm this afternoon (Thursday) at a pharmacy near my condo.

I've been buying generic sildenifil for at least 2 years. Absolutely NEVER been asked for a prescription. Doesn't matter whether it's Mercury Drug or Watson's.

I break it in half along the groove as 50 MG works very nicely for me.It's the same here in Davao. You can buy them at any Mercury Drugwith no problems whatsoever.

GE.

JasperLaguitao
01-10-20, 02:24
I am using Tantan, from home, France, and I get very nice results. Lot of girls on it in Phil. I do searches in Cebu, with an app which changes my GPS location, and it work nicely. Same behavior than Tinder I guess, but may be more easy to log in with your phoe number only. On Tinder I am always requested to enter an email adress for verification, here nothing more.

Some LB also, and they don't warn at start, but very quickly if you try to chat with them.

And I din't tried to get girls contacts through them. Should try.

But Tantan seems definitely a good way to find contacts.Lots of bots in tantan. I've tried it many times.

And yes also filled with lady boys and trans.

Kabul Guy
01-12-20, 00:09
OMG* There are so many ladyboys on Tinder in the Philippines. There were none when I used it last year in Jakarta.

I remember reading somewhere on the forum that LB have real girls as friends and that friend hookups with them are possible.

I did have one LB that kept messageing me and just wanted to be friends. No sex. I have a firm "no penis" policy in my dates.

Can anyone expound on this topic please.

Thanks, Traveler.I have a long time regular, over 2 years now, who I met through a LB. The LB identified eqrly in the chatting and said that he / she had a friend that I could meet.

I have mentioned this regular several times, she was very shy at first and took some time to come around. She is still shy in public, she would not check into my condo security alone, I always had to go get her.

I took her for a ride in my car just after I bought it, Once I showed that no one could see in because of the window tint, she was happy to be topless in the car.

I lwya say sorry not interested in LB but then ask if they have ang natural born GF's I could meet, some say no some say yes but I have always asked.

Mixed results but some nice times have been had.

VictorHugo99
01-12-20, 20:58
Hi RK,

Possible to give me the price of your drugs.

Where I am:

1) Tadalafil is 30 US 8 tablets of 20 MG.

2) avanafil is 50 US 12 tablets of 100 MG.

No sign of Sidernafil.

Thanks in advance.

Vic.


Totally wrong information from a new poster.

I bought 2 boxes (10 tabs) of (generic) Rite Med Sildenifil 100 mgm this afternoon (Thursday) at a pharmacy near my condo.

I've been buying generic sildenifil for at least 2 years. Absolutely NEVER been asked for a prescription. Doesn't matter whether it's Mercury Drug or Watson's.

I break it in half along the groove as 50 MG works very nicely for me.

Sammon
01-12-20, 23:25
OMG* There are so many ladyboys on Tinder in the Philippines. There were none when I used it last year in Jakarta.

I remember reading somewhere on the forum that LB have real girls as friends and that friend hookups with them are possible.

I did have one LB that kept messageing me and just wanted to be friends. No sex. I have a firm "no penis" policy in my dates.

Can anyone expound on this topic please.

Thanks, Traveler.Over the years I have had two LB come to my room pretending to be girls. Most LB admit during course if conversation. These two fooled me by having girls come on the cam and chat. When I met them at the door I realized they fooled me. I closed the door on them. Later they called me and offered girls. I would not take the bait. I hate girls controlled by LB. I would never wanted to become friends with a LB. Especially in a foreign country.

WestCoast1
01-13-20, 00:10
I would never wanted to become friends with a LB. Especially in a foreign country.Curious: Why not? They are just one more provider.

DirtyHarry81
01-13-20, 01:20
OMG* There are so many ladyboys on Tinder in the Philippines. There were none when I used it last year in Jakarta.

I remember reading somewhere on the forum that LB have real girls as friends and that friend hookups with them are possible.

I did have one LB that kept messageing me and just wanted to be friends. No sex. I have a firm "no penis" policy in my dates.

Can anyone expound on this topic please.

Thanks, Traveler.I was in the Philippines for the first time in December.

And the amount of ladyboys and freelancers on Badoo and Tinder was ridiculous, I think only 10% were regular girls.

Not that I have anything against freelancers, but why pay if you can get a nice regular girl for free? Haha.

Most of the girls I met thru PinaLove where honest I must say.

One girl from PinaLove contacted me and said that she could be my tourguide during my days in Manila'.

She waited for me at the airport when I arrived in Manila.

Turns out that she was a louzy tourguide, she had never been to Intramuros, haha.

But she was pretty horny and justed wanted to meet and fuck a foreign guy.

VHappyMassager
01-13-20, 12:26
Hey guys,

I'm planning to visit my first nuru place in Manila and I have found some old posts online about Shogun Spa.

Can anyone still recommend it?

What is the damage (massage + tip) and what can I expect?

I saw a bit contrasting reports but they are several years old and since my days are limited here, I'd rather pick something recommended first.

In case, I'm looking for both nuru and FS with nice-ish girl at a parlour.

Wicked Roger
01-13-20, 19:56
Hey guys,

I'm planning to visit my first nuru place in Manila and I have found some old posts online about Shogun Spa.

Can anyone still recommend it?

What is the damage (massage + tip) and what can I expect?

I saw a bit contrasting reports but they are several years old and since my days are limited here, I'd rather pick something recommended first.

In case, I'm looking for both nuru and FS with nice-ish girl at a parlour.Best PM VHappy as easier to share contact details as we can't do this over the main forum.

I see you asked similar in HK and Taiwan and Leche gave some advice but perhaps you had no time to follow.

Once you my contacts hopefully you will do your first FR.

VHappyMassager
01-14-20, 05:50
Best PM VHappy as easier to share contact details as we can't do this over the main forum.

I see you asked similar in HK and Taiwan and Leche gave some advice but perhaps you had no time to follow.

Once you my contacts hopefully you will do your first FR.Thanks but I'm not interested in personal contacts at the moment.

Can anyone give some comment about Shogun Spa? If not, just suggest a similar place + general info.

I can't really start making FR if every time someone asks a question everyone tells them to buy a subscription. I don't mind but a community like that makes it hard for newbies to get started.

ShinyCrazy
01-14-20, 18:40
Thanks but I'm not interested in personal contacts at the moment.

Can anyone give some comment about Shogun Spa? If not, just suggest a similar place + general info.

I can't really start making FR if every time someone asks a question everyone tells them to buy a subscription. I don't mind but a community like that makes it hard for newbies to get started.I'm a first timer to Manila, so I can't help much, but you might want to look at the ManilaTonight website. It is the local review board for "spas" (massage with extras). Apparently, in Manila, they call these "spas" as opposed to "massage parlors", which are more like Bangkok full service soapies.

Spa Osaka seems to get good comments from posters. The pricing from ManilaTonight ads are: 1500 entrance and 1000 minimum tip, which is presumably HJ. They also list an "all in" price of 5500, which is presumably full service.

Please post. I tried Roadstar Spa, which seemed to have good reviews. It was gross as hell.

Thampi62
01-15-20, 06:47
I'm a first timer to Manila, so I can't help much, but you might want to look at the ManilaTonight website. It is the local review board for "spas" (massage with extras). Hi friend,

Tried to sign in the website manilatonight.com.But couldn't give answer to the question in the required column. The site seems to be interesting. So need a helping hand. Thanks in advance and regards.

ShinyCrazy
01-15-20, 06:55
Hi friend,

Tried to sign in the website manilatonight.com.But couldn't give answer to the question in the required column. The site seems to be interesting. So need a helping hand. Thanks in advance and regards.Yeah, the "prove you are a human" question is in Tagalog, I think. I vaguely remember having to use an online translation to figure it out. FYI. MANY of the forum posts are in Tagalog, too, but there are enough in English to figure it out.

ShinyCrazy
01-15-20, 06:59
Hi friend,

Tried to sign in the website manilatonight.com.But couldn't give answer to the question in the required column. The site seems to be interesting. So need a helping hand. Thanks in advance and regards.Another FYI: From everything I've read, Abaca Spa and Flight 168 Massage (soapie) are pretty much sure things. You might want to just focus on those. I've been focusing on Burgos and escorts, but plan to try the others later in this trip.

ShinyCrazy
01-15-20, 07:08
Hi friend,

Tried to sign in the website manilatonight.com.But couldn't give answer to the question in the required column. The site seems to be interesting. So need a helping hand. Thanks in advance and regards.Yet another FYI: If you are totally stuck on getting authentic nuru, go to Bangkok and go to DokiDoki or Chrome Bar. Both are quite good.

PilotPaul
01-15-20, 07:32
Thanks but I'm not interested in personal contacts at the moment.

Can anyone give some comment about Shogun Spa? If not, just suggest a similar place + general info.

I can't really start making FR if every time someone asks a question everyone tells them to buy a subscription. I don't mind but a community like that makes it hard for newbies to get started.I support WR.

You've had a forum membership since 2017 with a few questions since then. You are not a newbie.

Your name says you are happy, so presumably you have some happy punts wit stories.

Maybe you could write reviews in your home town, or the other places you have researched and visited. How can we recommend places if we don't know what makes you happy.

PP.

ItIsMe83
01-15-20, 09:27
Anyone there right now advice reg. The volcano? Is it really bad at the moment? Have a trip next week Mon-Sun to Ang / Manilla planned but can still cancel. Is it still worth going or is the air really bad?

Free2
01-15-20, 17:31
Anyone there right now advice reg. The volcano? Is it really bad at the moment? Have a trip next week Mon-Sun to Ang / Manilla planned but can still cancel. Is it still worth going or is the air really bad?Wondering the same. I will be there 22-26 and then off to Davao. As long as the airport is working, all is good for me.

Tool Shedd
01-15-20, 18:52
Wondering the same. I will be there 22-26 and then off to Davao. As long as the airport is working, all is good for me.The.

According to my sister-in-law who lives just south of Manila International Airport, they are getting very light ash. They are just 50 kilometers north of the volcano. The airport has been closed and opened. I don't know the status right now.

Tool She'd.

JohnIsFun
01-15-20, 19:51
The.

According to my sister-in-law who lives just south of Manila International Airport, they are getting very light ash. They are just 50 kilometers north of the volcano. The airport has been closed and opened. I don't know the status right now.

Tool She'd.I know some girls I have met through PL. Some even live in Cavite. They are not complaining about the ash issues right now. Although it seems the masks in the local pharmacies have been sold out. I think you should rather see the warnings in the news and make your decision. If I were you I will postpone as I don't trust the emergency response and support may not be same as the first world country.

ShinyCrazy
01-16-20, 00:18
Anyone there right now advice reg. The volcano? Is it really bad at the moment? Have a trip next week Mon-Sun to Ang / Manilla planned but can still cancel. Is it still worth going or is the air really bad?Here is a website for news updates on the volcano:

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/01/12/1984318/live-updates-taal-volcano-eruption

If it were me, I would change my plans. You don't want to get stuck here for weeks if the volcano really kicks into gear. Something similar happened in Iceland a few years back. Although I suppose they would reroute some flights out of Clark if they could.

AussieGaigin
01-16-20, 00:27
Here is a website for news updates on the volcano:

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2020/01/12/1984318/live-updates-taal-volcano-eruption

If it were me, I would change my plans. You don't want to get stuck here for weeks if the volcano really kicks into gear. Something similar happened in Iceland a few years back. Although I suppose they would reroute some flights out of Clark if they could.Same thing happens with the volcano near Bali. Flights status can change on an hourly basis. There is a level of risk involved even if it appears dormant. Lots of people get stuck there went it suddenly re-activates.

GDreams
01-16-20, 05:12
Anyone there right now advice reg. The volcano? Is it really bad at the moment? Have a trip next week Mon-Sun to Ang / Manilla planned but can still cancel. Is it still worth going or is the air really bad?I'm in Malate. Have not noticed anything different. A girl I was banging lives in Imus and they got ash and rocks on the street there, but it is a fair way from Manila.

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01-16-20, 05:38
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ShinyCrazy
01-16-20, 07:26
Got ready to get a Grab car and go to Abaca Spa in Malate. Figured I should check Manila Tonight for any specials. Guess what. That location is apparently closed due to building ownership problems. Any suggestions for alternatives in the same area? Anyone with experience at SOTA massage or Spa Hiroshima?

Dg8787
01-16-20, 09:45
Arrived January 15th MNL, terminal 3, 10 pm. No problem with on time arrival. Passport control had long lines. Wait was about 20 minutes.

Got baggage and was at Genesis bus at 10:40 pm for 11:00 pm departure. Arrived in AC at 1:00 am.

BTW, Genesis has moved to the median strip in front of Bay 11. No longer at Bay 14.

Red Kilt
01-17-20, 03:00
Arrived January 15th MNL, terminal 3, 10 pm. No problem with on time arrival. Passport control had long lines. Wait was about 20 minutes.
I arrived January 15th MNL Terminal 3. I was first off the plane and first in line at Immigration.

Good news ends there.

It took ONE HOUR and FIVE MINUTES (65 f**g minutes) for my bag to come out on the carousel. They have a video monitor now of the baggage handlers unloading the trolleys and hurling bags on to the carousel. There was no action at all for around 15 minutes, then a couple of young guys stroll into view. 2 trolleys arrive and the guys take forever to undo the straps and start loading bags. I kid you not; the trolleys arrived very haphazardly and my bag (marked priority) came out after 65 minutes. I don't know what the problem was. I assume it was too few baggage handlers, trolleys etc for the backlog of flights after the volcano closed the airports.

Luckily I got a Grab car within 5 minutes of emerging from T3 but then it took a further 115 minutes to get home to my condo.

All up. Sydney to Manila = 7 hours 30 min. T3 to home = 3 hours.

Stykler
01-17-20, 05:18
{Snip} I kid you not; the trolleys arrived very haphazardly and my bag (marked priority) came out after 65 minutes. {Snip}I am advised by those in the industry, that some baggage handlers take great pleasure in unloading luggage marked "Priority" or something similar last. I always travel business and my luggage is generally tagged as priority, but there is certainly no difference from what I can see.

One of the great frustrations of flying, but hey it's a first world problem in a third world country.

Thampi62
01-17-20, 07:23
BTW, Genesis has moved to the median strip in front of Bay 11. No longer at Bay 14.Thanks for the information. I regularly travel in it.

Dg8787
01-17-20, 08:56
I arrived January 15th MNL Terminal 3. I was first off the plane and first in line at Immigration.

Good news ends there.

It took ONE HOUR and FIVE MINUTES (65 f**g minutes) for my bag to come out on the carousel. They have a video monitor now of the baggage handlers unloading the trolleys and hurling bags on to the carousel. There was no action at all for around 15 minutes, then a couple of young guys stroll into view. 2 trolleys arrive and the guys take forever to undo the straps and start loading bags. I kid you not; the trolleys arrived very haphazardly and my bag (marked priority) came out after 65 minutes. I don't know what the problem was. I assume it was too few baggage handlers, trolleys etc for the backlog of flights after the volcano closed the airports.

Luckily I got a Grab car within 5 minutes of emerging from T3 but then it took a further 115 minutes to get home to my condo.

All up. Sydney to Manila = 7 hours 30 min. T3 to home = 3 hours.I have found landing in hub cities that my priority luggage is off loaded last now. Seems like connecting flight baggage is taken care of first. This was not the case a few years ago, my bags would actually best me to the carousel then.

Possibly this was your case. Other scenario might have been a shift change!

Red Kilt
01-17-20, 09:22
I have found landing in hub cities that my priority luggage is off loaded last now. Seems like connecting flight baggage is taken care of first. This was not the case a few years ago, my bags would actually best me to the carousel then.

Possibly this was your case. Other scenario might have been a shift change!I think the whole thing was a random event Dg.

I was watching the guys unloading the trolleys onto the carousel. There was no indication of any strategy in place other than there was no urgency at all and they seemed to be competing as to who could do least work in the time available.

I will accept it as an outlier event given that there was so much disruption caused by the Taal volcano eruption. I must say most other times my bags have arrived quickly enough.

DzikaBomba
01-17-20, 17:56
I think the whole thing was a random event Dg.

I was watching the guys unloading the trolleys onto the carousel. There was no indication of any strategy in place other than there was no urgency at all and they seemed to be competing as to who could do least work in the time available.

I will accept it as an outlier event given that there was so much disruption caused by the Taal volcano eruption. I must say most other times my bags have arrived quickly enough.That's not unusual waiting one hour for your baggage. I had to wait for one hour also and that was far before the Volcano (March 2019)!

Paladin30
01-18-20, 10:53
Volcanic eruption or not, baggage in NAIA move like snails. That is the reality we have in the Philippines.

But it's not fair to single us out. I have also experienced more than an hour waiting for my baggage during my vacation in UK last year (Edinburgh Airport).

GDreams
01-22-20, 13:32
Was walking thru Robinsons supermarket at Robinsons Place Ermitra when the biggest rat I have ever seen ran past me and under some freezers. It was the size of a cat!

WestCoast1
01-22-20, 23:29
There was no indication of any strategy in place other than there was no urgency at all and they seemed to be competing as to who could do least work in the time available.Next time, consider taking a vid clip on your cell phone of the lazy turkeys being lazy, and post in on your FB, just to see how many 'Like's it gets.

At major US hubs in the last year, I have had luggage delays of 45+ minutes during non-peak travel, and at the same airport (and airline, at other non-peak travel time) have had luggage already on the carousel just moments after I arrived at the carousel. Not sure what the rhyme / reason is behind it.

Flew (full A-320) into a large american mid-west airport last year, landing 1 am (outbound flight delay, originally scheduled to land at 10 pm). Once at the carousel area, as the passengers from our flight gathered around our carousel, I noticed that all the carousels were not moving. The TV monitors over each showed no inbound flights, only my carousel showed one flight (mine). We still waited more than an hour for the luggage to start coming out. From the time they turn of the seat-belt sign (that would be approximately when they move in to offload luggage), to arriving at the carousel area (its a walk), is about 15 minutes. If on some flights the luggage shows up on the carousel 20 minutes after the seat belt sign is turned off, and on other flights it takes 60+ minutes (at 1 am), why the difference in delay? My tiny brain wants to know.

Flew recently from Manila to the province on a full (same aircraft type as above) flight. Deplaned down a ladder and walked into the airport's luggage carousel. Five minutes later luggage was showing on the rack. The crew was offloading luggage by the time I was walking down the aircraft ladder (and I was 3rd off the front of the plane, and we were de-planing at both front / back of the plane). That was fast! On the return to Manila, de-planing at the front only, and then the walk to the carousel area, we waited another 20 minutes for our luggage to start showing up (and so lucky for me personally that it took another 20 minutes for my suitcase to show up, only 40 minutes waiting). Rhyme? Reason? Large airport? Small airport? Lazy personnel? Short on personnel?

AggieDad1
01-24-20, 03:54
Next time, consider taking a vid clip on your cell phone of the lazy turkeys being lazy, and post in on your FB, just to see how many 'Like's it gets.

At major US hubs in the last year, I have had luggage delays of 45+ minutes during non-peak travel, and at the same airport (and airline, at other non-peak travel time) have had luggage already on the carousel just moments after I arrived at the carousel. Not sure what the rhyme / reason is behind it.

Flew (full A-320) into a large american mid-west airport last year, landing 1 am (outbound flight delay, originally scheduled to land at 10 pm). Once at the carousel area, as the passengers from our flight gathered around our carousel, I noticed that all the carousels were not moving. The TV monitors over each showed no inbound flights, only my carousel showed one flight (mine). We still waited more than an hour for the luggage to start coming out. From the time they turn of the seat-belt sign (that would be approximately when they move in to offload luggage), to arriving at the carousel area (its a walk), is about 15 minutes. If on some flights the luggage shows up on the carousel 20 minutes after the seat belt sign is turned off, and on other flights it takes 60+ minutes (at 1 am), why the difference in delay? My tiny brain wants to know.

Flew recently from Manila to the province on a full (same aircraft type as above) flight. Deplaned down a ladder and walked into the airport's luggage carousel. Five minutes later luggage was showing on the rack. The crew was offloading luggage by the time I was walking down the aircraft ladder (and I was 3rd off the front of the plane, and we were de-planing at both front / back of the plane). That was fast! On the return to Manila, de-planing at the front only, and then the walk to the carousel area, we waited another 20 minutes for our luggage to start showing up (and so lucky for me personally that it took another 20 minutes for my suitcase to show up, only 40 minutes waiting). Rhyme? Reason? Large airport? Small airport? Lazy personnel? Short on personnel?The slowdown in luggage handling seems to be universal, just as bad in China as it is in the USA. One thing that has changed is that a lot of times baggage handlers will off load luggage and then load the luggage for the next flight before taking the offloaded luggage to baggage claim. Also in the US for sure there seems to be a schedule for baggage handlers, so if your flight lands late you go to the back of the line. This happened to me once in Houston (IAH), on a flight from Beijing. Long wait for baggage that day. The most entertaining lost luggage event I ever had was on a flight from Beijing to Ningbo. Apparently a whole baggage cart got lost in Beijing because when we got to Ningbo about half the plane, including me, did not get their luggage. You have not seen chaos until you witness a bunch of Chinese being told that their luggage has been misplaced. Good times! Anyway, spent a late night at my favorite bar in Ningbo and was woken up the next day by the hotel letting me know my lost luggage had been delivered to the hotel and it was on its way to my room.

ShinyCrazy
01-24-20, 04:51
Visited the EDSA complex. Was immediately approached by about a dozen girls and a few mamasans trying to direct me into their bar. Total of about 6-7 bars, similar to Nana Plaza in Bangkok but the bars are a little smaller and there is no nudity, only bikinis. The girls were easily the match of the Nana girls. Different look, of course, but plenty of slim pretty young girls with pretty faces. A few with decent breasts but mostly the standard small breasted Filipinas. The drinks were around 140 pesos and the lady drinks were around 380 pesos. The girls explained that the entire complex has one owner, so the prices were identical in every bar. Barfine are 2500. I was offered 5-6 K for LT. Found a favorite easily in Pitstop, but wanted to at least try a few bars, so found another favorite in Firehouse. She seemed too good to lose, so BF'ed her and went back to my hotel for LT. Her stage name was Angela. She explained that most girls in EDSA prefer Japanese guys. She prefers white guys, hence the immediate chemistry with her. She was "all in" all night long. Plenty of enthusiastic DFK, DATY, rimming, BBBJ, full service. Ended up coming 2 times, took her to late night dinner in the restaurant, then came 2 more times in the room, then sleep for a few hours, then came one more time in the morning, then took her to breakfast. Paid 6 K plus 2500 BF, so essentially $170 US for 12 hours of unlimited service. I came a total of 5 times. (Full service was covered). Pretty good deal. Only place I know that has the same level of service for that price is Colombia. Overall, very happy. The bars at EDSA seemed like ghost towns with only 1 guy per bar on average. Occasionally a group of 5 young Asian mongers would show up, have a drink, then leave. Pretty much a wide open field. If you were considering Burgos versus EDSA, I'the say that Burgos is much more of a party atmosphere with loud music and tons of guys, EDSA is quieter like a (relatively) classy cocktail bar. I actually preferred EDSA. More free girls to choose from and less competition for the best girls. Pricing is better than Burgos, too. I plan to repeat.

Mr Enternational
01-24-20, 15:41
She explained that most girls in EDSA prefer Japanese guys. She prefers white guys, hence the immediate chemistry with her. LOL. What kind of bull is that? You don't just have automatic chemistry with someone just because you like their skin color. I like all skin colors, so why have I not had chemistry with all the women I have come in contact with all my years on earth?

ShinyCrazy
01-24-20, 19:10
LOL. What kind of bull is that? You don't just have automatic chemistry with someone just because you like their skin color. I like all skin colors, so why have I not had chemistry with all the women I have come in contact with all my years on earth?I, too, like all skin colors. "Automatic chemistry" might be the wrong phrase. I meant "automatic chemistry" relative to the other girls, who seemed to be ignoring me. She was friendly and seemed to be making a real attempt to connect with me. When I asked her why the other girls seemed so standoffish, her explanation was that they don't like white guys.

ShinyCrazy
01-24-20, 19:41
Went back to EDSA, floated between the bars getting a better sense of the quality of the girls overall. Firehouse again seemed to have the best lineup, but first I auditioned a girl in the country music themed bar. I think it was called Bows and Arrows or something like that. I bought a drink for the girl and chatted. She spent most of the time talking about her special needs child (which isn't a major problem, but is not exactly the sultry turn-on conversation I was looking for) and when I told her I wanted to see the other bars before I committed to BFing anyone, she pouted and I could tell this was not the girl for me. Poked my head into Pitstop and two other bars. Went back to Firehouse and bought a drink for Angela, the girl from last time. She gave me advice about which girls are willing to go with white guys. I pointed out one girl I liked, and she wasn't sure, so I called her over. Sure enough, no white guys for her. Guess EDSA looks better on first blush than it is in reality, unless you are Japanese. The majority of girls were not interested in a white guy. I may be headed back to Burgos for the future. It was getting late and I was starting to think I'the go home empty handed, so I made a snap decision to BF a decent looking girl with big tits named Elena. Did ST (3 hours, 2 pops) for 2500 BF + 3500 tip. Good experience but not life changing. As always, I find that the big titted girls are a let down, but sometimes I can't help myself since I just want the optics. Big titted girls think that sex equals you playing with their big tits and they don't have to do much but smile. The small breasted girls know they have to really work. If you find yourself in Firehouse, ask for small titted Angela. Give Elena a pass.

Jingo10
01-24-20, 20:06
She explained that most girls in EDSA prefer Japanese guys. She prefers white guys, hence the immediate chemistry with her. ..I think the 6 k might have helped LOL try la cafe down the road, you might find it more palatable on the wallet.

John Clayton
01-24-20, 21:14
...I find that the big titted girls are a let down, but sometimes ...About 100% has been my experience.

GDreams
01-25-20, 02:53
I think the 6 k might have helped LOL try la cafe down the road, you might find it more palatable on the wallet.The LAC is full of old and ugly. I tried seriously one night and the pretty young ones wanted 5 - 6 k for the night. It is a dive, dark, hassled by uglies and bad food. I have the time to spend on the dating sites and apps. Rarely pay more than 3000 for 2 shots and rarely take older than 22.

VictorHugo99
01-25-20, 04:29
Thanks SC for your account.

I would try to visit Edsa next time too.

Happy mongering,

Victor.


Went back to EDSA, floated between the bars getting a better sense of the quality of the girls overall. Firehouse again seemed to have the best lineup, but first I auditioned a girl in the country music themed bar. I think it was called Bows and Arrows or something like that. I bought a drink for the girl and chatted. She spent most of the time talking about her special needs child (which isn't a major problem, but is not exactly the sultry turn-on conversation I was looking for) and when I told her I wanted to see the other bars before I committed to BFing anyone, she pouted and I could tell this was not the girl for me. Poked my head into Pitstop and two other bars. Went back to Firehouse and bought a drink for Angela, the girl from last time. She gave me advice about which girls are willing to go with white guys. I pointed out one girl I liked, and she wasn't sure, so I called her over. Sure enough, no white guys for her. Guess EDSA looks better on first blush than it is in reality, unless you are Japanese. The majority of girls were not interested in a white guy. I may be headed back to Burgos for the future. It was getting late and I was starting to think I'the go home empty handed, so I made a snap decision to BF a decent looking girl with big tits named Elena. Did ST (3 hours, 2 pops) for 2500 BF + 3500 tip. Good experience but not life changing. As always, I find that the big titted girls are a let down, but sometimes I can't help myself since I just want the optics. Big titted girls think that sex equals you playing with their big tits and they don't have to do much but smile. The small breasted girls know they have to really work. If you find yourself in Firehouse, ask for small titted Angela. Give Elena a pass.

Engine Driver
01-25-20, 09:21
Was walking thru Robinsons supermarket at Robinsons Place Ermitra when the biggest rat I have ever seen ran past me and under some freezers. It was the size of a cat!That would be a fine dinner for a Chinaman.

Wicked Roger
01-25-20, 17:39
As always, I find that the big titted girls are a let down, but sometimes I can't help myself since I just want the optics. Big titted girls think that sex equals you playing with their big tits and they don't have to do much but smile. The small breasted girls know they have to really work. If you find yourself in Firehouse, ask for small titted Angela. Give Elena a pass.DCups would disagree with you on this statement. Big or small if they play up I let them go make no difference to me.

Jingo10
01-25-20, 19:16
The LAC is full of old and ugly. I tried seriously one night and the pretty young ones wanted 5 - 6 k for the night. It is a dive, dark, hassled by uglies and bad food. I have the time to spend on the dating sites and apps. Rarely pay more than 3000 for 2 shots and rarely take older than 22.I was referring to the price more than LAC I just used it as an example as it was close. People talk about good deals but have paid a fortune on air fare, hotels and hanging around a crappy city. 170 USD for me is ridiculous.

Regarding LAC, yeh it ain't the best place in the world but I think it's ok and it serves a purpose. I've never been quoted 6 k in there, but I have only taken a couple of girls from there.

I don't really enjoy gogos so LAC works for me sometimes but I agree online is the way.

Free2
01-25-20, 23:20
That would be a fine dinner for a Chinaman.Especially now as it is the year of the RAT! - metal rat, but live one would do I am sure.

Free2
01-25-20, 23:58
Day 1.

There is just something about that first day in this beautiful land of LBFM's. I notice a lot of us pervs post about our first day but not necessarily about subsequent days!

Landed around noon, breezed through immigration and because I only had carry-on, I was in the taxi in minutes. Paid the 610 php fixed rate (who cares) to the hotel.

I had pre-arranged with my contact to bring me a girl when I arrived. Well, son-of-a-be*h (aka Uncle Joe Biden), they were waiting for me when my taxi pulled up! That's service. The room wasn't ready, we were told I would have to wait for 1 hour. But after waiting 15 minutes in the lobby (shame, shame), they mercifully offered me a temp room until the other was ready.

Round 1 was out of the way with a lovely, slim, tight, inexperienced 18 year old. For some bizarre reason she didn't like me touching her tits which was annoying. They were absolutely beautiful too. Not too big, not too small, just right, perky and firm. 1500 for her, 1000 finders fee, 300 tricycle incoming and 300 tricycle outgoing. That's my MO. I plan on peating that as much as I can.

Late evening tricycles for 2 from Tondo run 200 php due to less traffic.

In the evening met with a FCupid contact, went for dinner, then back to the hotel. I gave the leftovers to street kids, that's always a good feeling. Watched Mr Bean and let my hands wander generously, but she wasn't 'ready', so let her loose in a Grab, paying 400 to take her home to Marikina. She really wanted to stay overnight and I am sure action could have been had, but I just wanted to be alone. Don't like overnight stays unless I have a really good, established relationship with the girl.

You can't beat the convenience of the quickies, but I like to keep my evenings for platonic dates and see what happens of anything. I love the intrigue of meeting new people and seeing where it leads. If nothing happens, it is chalked up to an interesting experience and is better than eating dinner alone. These pinays have so many funny expressions and I generally find them interesting to be with. A lot depends on their English ability. The ones who don't speak English much I just leave for the quickies. I have met professionals who could actually carry on an intelligent conversation and that is always a treat. The Phils is very hierarchical and you never really know what kind is going to be sitting in the restaurant booth across from you until she is there! Its amusing to hear girls from Tondo talk about 'low class' bars.

Day 2.

Repeat with Tondo contact at 9 am. The best way to look after that morning wood!

It is such an ego booster when these girls are so fascinated with my big dick and talk about it after with giant smiles on their face! We all know it is just because they are not used to white dick. Hehe. Apologies to the pinoys lurking on this board.

1 pm another contact brings a girl. This contact is a girl who I met previously with my initial contact. Now she brings girls for me. Same, same. Took a 25 MG blue pill (50 bit in half) 1 hour previous just to be sure everything worked good with the jet lag and so on. Was glad I did.

6:30 pm I had a date with a FCupid girl coming from Pasay. That's friggin far, but she was willing to meet for dinner in Chinatown. Good, as I don't like travelling far. Come to me (or nearby) or I am not interested. Girls who complain about how far it is get their ass deleted from my contacts faster than you can say Jack Robinson! Instead of telling girls my hotel (for various obvious reasons), I always direct them to a nearby landmark and walk to the hotel after we meet. She shows up and is 20-30 lbs heavier than her pics. First immediate turn-off. Then she nervously introduces her friend that she brought along. I ask why she did that. "Because I am nervous. " You don't do that, I tell her. I walk away leaving her staring at my back. She texts me to pay for her transpo -haha! Call me mean, but I don't put up with that shit. Having a friend unannounced is a total buzzkill. Faking your pics or lying about your weight / looks is unforgivable. Maybe she will learn her lesson and do better with the rest of you guys but her ass is blocked in all-ways from me.

Day 3.

Repeat with Tondo contact at 9 am. This is working like clockwork. Girls are in and out and I am ready to start the day feeling amazing! I wish this could happen at home. Lovely pussy just show up at my door every day when I wake up. A different one every day. Heaven!!

My contact says it is harder for her to find girls for the AM rendez-vous, but so far no complaints.

The 2 pm meeting was a total disaster. This is my 3rd contact. Another girl who I met previously with my initial contact. She too wants to bring me a girl. They all want to jump on the pimping bandwagon and get some of the action. They all swear not to tell my initial contact as she will probably slap them around. No problem, I will not tell! I just love the variety.

P.S. - I don't fuck my initial contact. I do however get her to come over and show the newbies how to blow me if they don't get it. She is 27 and very cute but has 2 kids and her body is a little shot. She makes sure the girls are not virgins, makes sure they are not on mens, knows the type I like (no kids, slim, 18-22 year old range) and rarely disappoints. She also knows if anybody steals anything from me the gig is over. My 2 other contacts I fuck and for some reason they feel obliged to bring me other girls. Ok, sure! They could just come alone, but whatever.

Back to my 2 pm appointment: 1 hour past the agreed upon time that she was supposed to arrive, she messages me saying she has to change girl. Why? Drama, drama was the answer. I say ok, but. Bilis, bilis! In other words, hurry-up! I had took my 25 MG of you-know-what and didn't want to wait 4 hours for her to arrive. She sends the obligatory pics for pre-approval (that is a MUST with me) and I approve. Then she delays again with another excuse and endless meaningless messages. Then she can't seem to figure out where I am. 2 hours after the agreed upon time, she still hadn't left home so I bailed and cancelled it completely. Can't stand the incompetence. This was her first kick at the can at being a pimp and she failed. She needs to stick to just meeting me alone and all will be good.

This is life in the Phils, I roll with it. But I also do not have unlimited patience for stupidity!

The evening date was a blessing from above. A girl I knew 2 years ago, (from my initial contact) connected again on FB. She came to my hotel alone. After the mandatory shower, we fucked and man-o-man there is nothing like that long lost pussy from yesteryear. Sweet girl, pencil thin and tall, delicious boobs, quiet, compliant and ever so wanting to please. From a poor as a church mouse Tondo family. Took her out for supper (she was saying she is soo hungry) and she had a square meal for the first time in who knows how long. She took the leftovers home to share with her 6 siblings. I had told her while messaging previously that she could stay overnight and she was excited. She was understandably surprised when I said that no, not overnight. Here is 200 for a tricycle home. Without drama, off she goes. She got home safe and sound-I was worried the tricycle driver would try some monkey business on her but he didn't!

Day 4.

Morning date; my contact brings me 18 year old Liens. I made the mistake of not insisting on a pre-photo approval (getting lazy! She was very dirty, the dirtiest girl my contact had ever brought me. I tell her that I am not amused and I have known about this girl for a while but never been with her. I know that both her parents are drug addicts and that she fucks pinoy guys for peanuts to stay alive. There was some excuse about it rained last night and that's why, but geez I wasn't thrilled about banging her. There was conflict between my 2 heads. After we all have a smoke, she goes into the CR to wash up. My contact goes with her and they are talking for a bit which I found unusual. I get on the bed naked and waiting, fiddling on my phone and wondering if I should use a condom for this one and realized I don't have any. Liens comes out and tells me she is on her first day of mens. Phew! This gives me an out so I run with it and say I don't want to do anything with a girl on mens. Whether or not it is true I don't care, or maybe my contact told her I wasn't happy because she was so dirty and this was HER was of getting out of it. Dodged a bullet with that one. Gave them both 500 for the effort and sent them on their way.

Early afternoon date. I cancelled it with my second contact. She was coming alone this time, but I just wasn't in the mood. Promised a later meet-up.

Went to the cinema and watched Bad Boys for Life with Will Smith. Not a bad movie. Great way to kill some time during the day. Theater was freezing cold, I almost got hypothermia.

Evening session, my contact brings me Marianne 20, lots of tattoos, very sweet, no kids, nice boobs, tiny nipples. My sessions have a very typical flow. Start of with BBBJ as I fondle their breasts and play with their twat, followed by short missionary and ended with come-inside doggy style. Easy peasy.

Days like this are what I dream of at home. But after 4 days it starts getting old as you cannot go far from the hotel as there is always a date to coordinate. In Manila going out and about is pretty much a losing cause in any case unless you have a lot of time on your hands. You can't do that AND have 2-3 dates at your hotel every day. I also have to spend a lot of time chatting, messaging and the battery gets low. That's why soon I will take off for another part of the country where I will depend on dating apps and go-go bars exclusively. My fucks-per-day will go down, but I will be able to enjoy the country and vacation more. Just got to watch out for falling lava!

Miscellaneous:

You know you have a poor girl when after sitting on the couch in your hotel room for 5 minutes, they slide off and squat on the floor with their back against the bottom of the couch! More comfortable on the floor in the squat position than on a couch! Haha.

I love how when they gone into the cr for the shower ahead of time, they CLOSE and LOCK the door and come out all WRAPPED in a towel. 15 minutes later we are both in the CR washing up all naked without scruples nor shame!

ShinyCrazy
01-26-20, 01:43
Once more back to EDSA, tried all of the bars. Salsa and Space Girls seemed pretty quiet, although they claimed to have a live band "every 30 minutes". The Salsa girls were overdressed, wearing full length dresses covering up the best parts. I didn't see the band play, and I was wandering around for more than 30 minutes. Whatever. Bought drinks for a girl in PitStop, but didn't feel right, so moved on. Tried Casino bar, which was pretty busy with Asian mongers, but I did get some decent attention. Bought one girl a drink and chatted. Had several of the younger girls tell me how handsome, etc, so guess they didn't have a phobia of white dick. My girl pointed out one of the dancing girls who she claimed was a "virgin". 20 years old and virgin in the Philippines? Seems pretty unlikely, but who knows. Apparently, that "virgin" was more expensive. Eventually went back to Firehouse yet again. Mamasan recognized me and sent two girls over, both of which were around 22 yo, friendly, and doable. Fondled them both, then decided on one. Back to the hotel for DFK, DATY, and covered full service. Was offered 5 k for LT, but got dressed and wanted to leave after the first round. I didn't put up a fight. I needed some sleep. Paid her 3 k and finally got some shuteye.

I did try LA Cafe earlier, BTW. About 200 girls and 100 guys. The place was absolutely packed to the gills. The waitress had to clear out some girls to get a free table for me and my two buddies. A few girls swarmed our table, average looks, nothing special. I pushed my way through the crowded bar, past the pool tables and around to the toilet. I would say about 10-20 good looking girls mixed in with the merely average. So maybe 10% were worth the effort. EDSA and Burgos are both much easier for the "one week millionaire", if you are just blowing into town and want to find the top talent and aren't hung up on getting the best price. I'm guessing the better girls at LA Cafe would ask 3-4 K minimum for LT versus around 3 k BF plus 5 k tip for the bikini bar girls at EDSA or Burgos. So, $80 instead of $160 for all night long. Several of the girls at EDSA claimed that they were tested and examined by the doctor after every night they had a barfine. Seems a little hard to believe, but who knows. For the one week millionaire, it is probably worth the added cost for the lower risk of STD with employed bikini bar girls compared to freelancers at LA Cafe. It's the same calculation at Nana in Bangkok. Similar cost and risk ratio. She also said that most bars only had a handful of barfines each night, which seemed to be accurate. They are surviving mainly on lady drinks. Now that I have a general sense of the overall nighttime scenario in Manila, I think I made the right choices: EDSA and Burgos bars. Next up? Daytime action. So far, only Smooci produced a decent experience. Considering Flight 168 next. Couldn't find the opening hours listed anywhere, although you get a better price "before 7 pm". I asked a cabbie, he said they should be open around 1 pm. Anyone know the details?

Skepti10
01-26-20, 02:10
Day 1...Excellent stuff, lucky you have relatively good contacts. All of mine dried up after several years of inactivity so now I have to go find girls in the bars again.

GDreams
01-26-20, 03:44
I was referring to the price more than LAC I just used it as an example as it was close. People talk about good deals but have paid a fortune on air fare, hotels and hanging around a crappy city. 170 USD for me is ridiculous.

Regarding LAC, yeh it ain't the best place in the world but I think it's ok and it serves a purpose. I've never been quoted 6 k in there, but I have only taken a couple of girls from there.

I don't really enjoy gogos so LAC works for me sometimes but I agree online is the way.I don't drink so bar scenes are a bore for me. I've actually seen a few nice looking girls outside Robinsons. I've almost been tempted but tend to feel more comfortable negotiating by chat than on the street.

I now have a few regulars that I can call if I don't find new girls to meet with.

D Cups
01-26-20, 15:32
DCups would disagree with you on this statement. Big or small if they play up I let them go make no difference to me.You are right. WR. The bigger the tits the harder my dick gets and if she wasn't horny at first she will be when I am dick slapping her. Cheers, mate. Most of the bigger titties are also chubby but that doesn't bother me since I am chubby, too, but slim and stacked is my favorite.

Radical Guy
01-26-20, 15:42
I will be visiting the Philippines next month for the first time in a few years, and I just downloaded the Grab app. I will be arriving at NAIA Terminal 3. I have an iPhone with AT&T, and the app will work with the airport WiFi. My question is, does the airport's WiFi reach outside to where one picks up Grab cars? If not, I need to figure a way to make my iPhone work with the local coverage. Also, does Grab work like Uber, where charges go to your credit card, or do you pay cash to the Grab driver? Thanks.

RG.

Easian1234
01-26-20, 17:49
I will be visiting the Philippines next month for the first time in a few years, and I just downloaded the Grab app. I will be arriving at NAIA Terminal 3. I have an iPhone with AT&T, and the app will work with the airport WiFi. My question is, does the airport's WiFi reach outside to where one picks up Grab cars? If not, I need to figure a way to make my iPhone work with the local coverage. Also, does Grab work like Uber, where charges go to your credit card, or do you pay cash to the Grab driver? Thanks.

RG.Grab works like uber with a credit card set up. You can connect to WiFi outside but try connecting while you are still inside the airport because once you walk outside you will not be able to walk back inside. I downloaded the app while sitting outside and it took awhile for me to connect to a good signal, I must have wasted 45 minutes to be honest.

Sammon
01-26-20, 20:18
I will be visiting the Philippines next month for the first time in a few years, and I just downloaded the Grab app. I will be arriving at NAIA Terminal 3. I have an iPhone with AT&T, and the app will work with the airport WiFi. My question is, does the airport's WiFi reach outside to where one picks up Grab cars? If not, I need to figure a way to make my iPhone work with the local coverage. Also, does Grab work like Uber, where charges go to your credit card, or do you pay cash to the Grab driver? Thanks.

RG.You pay cash to driver when you order from Grab. Otherwise same principle like Uber. You will get name, car description, plate number. Also it will track the car and it will let you know when it is outside. So essentially you can wait inside where the WiFi signal is great till the car arrives. Car will wait 10 minutes outside. Sometimes they will call you to find out where you are.

I have T mobile coverage and I get a worldwide dial tone and also wi fi.

Mr Enternational
01-26-20, 22:12
It is such an ego booster when these girls are so fascinated with my big dick and talk about it after with giant smiles on their face! We all know it is just because they are not used to white dick. Hehe. Apologies to the pinoys lurking on this board.We know what you mean!...From all the black guys lurking on this board.


6:30 pm I had a date with a FCupid girl coming from Pasay. That's friggin far, but she was willing to meet for dinner in Chinatown.No idea where you are, but Pasay is only 9 km from Chinatown.

ShinyCrazy
01-26-20, 23:36
I will be visiting the Philippines next month for the first time in a few years, and I just downloaded the Grab app. I will be arriving at NAIA Terminal 3. I have an iPhone with AT&T, and the app will work with the airport WiFi. My question is, does the airport's WiFi reach outside to where one picks up Grab cars? If not, I need to figure a way to make my iPhone work with the local coverage. Also, does Grab work like Uber, where charges go to your credit card, or do you pay cash to the Grab driver? Thanks.

RG.You don't have to use a credit card for Grab. You can just pay cash. Basically, you pay 60 pesos for the Grab booking fee on top of the meter (if you use Grab taxi, which is white taxis). The easiest way to make your iPhone work immediately upon landing is to get a Google Fi SIM card. Order it online before you leave, and make sure it is working at home. When you land, it will work within a few minutes of turning the phone on. It works in almost every country in the world. You use the Google Fi app to turn the service on or off, so you only pay when you need it. Works great.

ShinyCrazy
01-26-20, 23:55
This time tried Flight 168. Elsewhere on the internet, this is described as one of the top massage style venues in Manila. It is the first floor of the Air Force One KTV complex. Air Force One is apparently more of a "KTV" karaoke type place, with more expensive girls, but it was closed on the day I visited, a Sunday.

Flight 168 is open 12 noon-4 am every day. It is like a Bangkok soapie with a fishbowl type set up and what appears to be about 50 private rooms with large bed, jacuzzi, shower, en suite toilet / sink etc. You can order food and drinks to your room. If you arrive before 7 pm, the prices are better. An "economy" room is for 90 minutes. A "first class" room is for 120 minutes. You pick the room quality first and then they walk you over to the fishbowl. Room quality doesn't determine which girl you get. I arrived around 5 pm and had about 10 girls to choose from. By the time I left around 7 pm, there were twice as many. My girl told me she only works from 12 noon-8 pm, then rides two hours home to take care of her 6 year old son. The first class room was 2500 for two hours, and you can swap out for a second girl in the second hour if you choose. Service included covered BJ, DFK, DATY, and covered FS. Price for the girl was another 2500 per hour (one pop). Tried to negotiate for BBBJ, no luck. Tried to negotiate for second pop for another 1000, no luck. Would only accept 2500 for the second hour / pop.

Overall, very easy. Solid normal service. Would be great if you had a long layover at the airport since it so close. Also good for daytime service, since the EDSA / Burgos options are not rocking until around 8-9 pm. Pricing is pretty high, comparable to FKK in Germany. Based on covered BJ and pricing, I wouldn't repeat, unless I was stuck at the airport on a long layover.

TxDGuy
01-27-20, 01:21
Grab works like uber with a credit card set up. You can connect to WiFi outside but try connecting while you are still inside the airport because once you walk outside you will not be able to walk back inside. I downloaded the app while sitting outside and it took awhile for me to connect to a good signal, I must have wasted 45 minutes to be honest.There is a subtle but important difference between Grab CC payment and Uber / Lyft CC payments in the USA In Uber / Lyft, when the charge goes directly to the CC. In Grab it doesn't go directly to the CC. You use the CC first to withdraw money to the Grab App as Grab credits. You need to have credits in the Grab App to be able to pay any transaction within Grab. On the positive side, this gives you the option to be able to use Cash to load into Grab App (technically a grab driver should be able to do this, but I tried with at least 5 drivers and they had no clue how to load cash on to my account), but on the negative side, you need to have credits ahead of time if you want to use CC. You can use Grab credits to load your phone and so on. The Grab account does act like a local bank account and has the associated identity proof issues. Like another poster mentioned, you can use cash to pay the driver directly.

MohdirFan82
01-27-20, 03:58
I will be visiting the Philippines next month for the first time in a few years, and I just downloaded the Grab app. I will be arriving at NAIA Terminal 3. I have an iPhone with AT&T, and the app will work with the airport WiFi. My question is, does the airport's WiFi reach outside to where one picks up Grab cars? If not, I need to figure a way to make my iPhone work with the local coverage. Also, does Grab work like Uber, where charges go to your credit card, or do you pay cash to the Grab driver? Thanks.

RG.Once you arrived to the airport, go toward the exit doors. You will see Money changer. They usally have very good rates.

You will see 2 counters on your left selling Sim cards. Buy the sim card, and activate it.

Order Grub and go to your hotel. I do this every time in Philippines, and in Indonesia.

PilotPaul
01-27-20, 04:44
Once you arrived to the airport, go toward the exit doors. You will see Money changer. They usally have very good rates.I prefer the rate of my ATM card and ING (no fee) card.

JohnIsFun
01-27-20, 06:07
I will be visiting the Philippines next month for the first time in a few years, and I just downloaded the Grab app. I will be arriving at NAIA Terminal 3. I have an iPhone with AT&T, and the app will work with the airport WiFi. My question is, does the airport's WiFi reach outside to where one picks up Grab cars? If not, I need to figure a way to make my iPhone work with the local coverage. Also, does Grab work like Uber, where charges go to your credit card, or do you pay cash to the Grab driver? Thanks.

RG.You can buy local SIM card outside the airport. Global is a good company. Keep in mind the people selling SIM cards outside are independent sellers and do not offer the discounts or specials normally given by the mobile operators. They will try charging more and lure you in buying data. Best is to buy small pack and top it up online by registering on the company web site. Grab works best in Asia. Takes away the hassles dealing with taxi drivers. Just in case you decide to take a taxi avoid the agents trying to get you in taxi across the parking. Only take the yellow taxi outside the arrival hall.

Kabul Guy
01-27-20, 07:58
...... My question is, does the airport's WiFi reach outside to where one picks up Grab cars? .....Get a free local SIM, Smart or Globe are good most places, and top up there and then pick a data and SMS plan, not much phone time as most people, not just the girls, will use SMS or a message app like WhatsApp.

Kabul Guy
01-27-20, 07:59
There is a subtle but important difference between Grab CC payment and Uber / Lyft CC payments in the USA In Uber / Lyft, when the charge goes directly to the CC. In Grab it doesn't go directly to the CC. You use the CC first to withdraw money to the Grab App as Grab credits. You need to have credits in the Grab App to be able to pay any transaction within Grab. On the positive side, this gives you the option to be able to use Cash to load into Grab App (technically a grab driver should be able to do this, but I tried with at least 5 drivers and they had no clue how to load cash on to my account), but on the negative side, you need to have credits ahead of time if you want to use CC. You can use Grab credits to load your phone and so on. The Grab account does act like a local bank account and has the associated identity proof issues. Like another poster mentioned, you can use cash to pay the driver directly.Grab can charge to a credit card per ride. I use the prepay method because the points add up much faster.

ItIsMe83
01-27-20, 09:33
There is a subtle but important difference between Grab CC payment and Uber / Lyft CC payments in the USA In Uber / Lyft, when the charge goes directly to the CC. In Grab it doesn't go directly to the CC. You use the CC first to withdraw money to the Grab App as Grab credits. You need to have credits in the Grab App to be able to pay any transaction within Grab. On the positive side, this gives you the option to be able to use Cash to load into Grab App (technically a grab driver should be able to do this, but I tried with at least 5 drivers and they had no clue how to load cash on to my account), but on the negative side, you need to have credits ahead of time if you want to use CC. You can use Grab credits to load your phone and so on. The Grab account does act like a local bank account and has the associated identity proof issues. Like another poster mentioned, you can use cash to pay the driver directly.Grab can work exactly like uber and lyft. Just enter your CC, choose it instead of cash payment and done. No checks / ID proof issues whatsoever and it pays every time for your ride.

Maybe some taxi driver told you that and asked you to use him to top up your account because they get a small percentage if you do it that way. I not once used grabpay credits in any Asian cities and always just pay with credit card. You can now even tip the driver on it as well like you could with uber / lyft.

WestCoast1
01-27-20, 11:53
In Grab it doesn't go directly to the CC. You use the CC first to withdraw money to the Grab App as Grab credits. You need to have credits in the Grab App to be able to pay any transaction within Grab. On the positive side, this gives you the option to be able to use Cash to load into Grab App (technically a grab driver should be able to do this, but I tried with at least 5 drivers and they had no clue how to load cash on to my account), but on the negative side, you need to have credits ahead of time if you want to use CC.I've never heard of Grab credits. I entered my credit card details in Grab when I first got the app. Never looked back, I only use the CC, the charge goes directly to my CC. A few minutes after stepping out a Grab car / taxi, my CC account shows the charge as 'pending'. Uber in States is same for me, direct to CC. I was not aware one could use cash with Grab until mentioned here recently. I thought the idea was that you take a ride in the Grab / Uber car / taxi, pulled up at the curb, got out without pulling out a wallet or cash, and walked away, knowing the Grab taxi meter amount (plus Grab fee) or the original Grab fee for Grab car was about to be billed to your CC. There is always a Grab notification about 60 seconds after departing the car that says something like: "Your card has been charged for this ride", or such.

Mr Enternational
01-27-20, 11:59
I've never heard of Grab credits.They send me 18 million messages about giving money to the driver to get some credits.


I was not aware one could use cash with Grab until mentioned here recently.Exact opposite for me. I did not know you could use a credit card until you just mentioned it.

Dg8787
01-27-20, 13:40
They send me 18 million messages about giving money to the driver to get some credits.

Exact opposite for me. I did not know you could use a credit card until you just mentioned it.Painfully I am aware of all three options.

I have found it hard at times for the credit card charge to process through for advance credits of 500 or 1000 pesos. So I have been charging each trip with my credit card.

In the past I would carry a prepaid 1000 pesos credit for the convenience of it. I found out that the account was connected to your PH cell phone number. After my CP was picked pocketed and I got a new cp number I was not able to transfer the credit balance over. Supposedly now there is a way to transfer it over but it is quite complicated.

So each options has its benefits.

Radical Guy
01-27-20, 17:35
Get a free local SIM, Smart or Globe are good most places, and top up there and then pick a data and SMS plan, not much phone time as most people, not just the girls, will use SMS or a message app like WhatsApp.Along those lines, I have an IPhone XS Max, which has dual SIM capability. Since my phone is financed through AT&T, it is locked. Does that mean that a Globe or Smart SIM will not work in my iPhone unless I can get it unlocked?

RG.

Dg8787
01-28-20, 00:41
Along those lines, I have an IPhone XS Max, which has dual SIM capability. Since my phone is financed through AT&T, it is locked. Does that mean that a Globe or Smart SIM will not work in my iPhone unless I can get it unlocked?

RG.Nothing will work on a locked phone other than your assigned att SIM card.

BTW, only GSM network unlocked cell phones will work in Philippines.

Free2
01-28-20, 01:22
We know what you mean!...From all the black guys lurking on this board.

No idea where you are, but Pasay is only 9 km from Chinatown.Good one! LOL.

9 km across Manila can take hours as you know. That's what I meant. Probably better to fly in a girl from the province next time rather than wait for them to take the trinity of busses, jeepneys & tricycles.

Kabul Guy
01-28-20, 08:13
Along those lines, I have an IPhone XS Max, which has dual SIM capability. Since my phone is financed through AT&T, it is locked. Does that mean that a Globe or Smart SIM will not work in my iPhone unless I can get it unlocked?

RG.I don't know. I have been outside of North America for so long all phones I have bought in the last 10 or so years have been unlocked. I go with android as well.

I just use my oldest functional phone for mongering (Samsung S3 mini, bought in 2013) That way if it disappears, all I have lost is the data on it, mainly contacts and chats but these get backed up to the cloud periodically.

You can buy a reasonable basic smart phone here for 4 to 6 k peso.

Gabriel Jacob
01-28-20, 12:35
Will be in town on a short layover. Any info or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!

Radical Guy
01-28-20, 14:30
Nothing will work on a locked phone other than your assigned att SIM card.

BTW, only GSM network unlocked cell phones will work in Philippines.Thanks for the tip. I decided to solve this problem by purchasing an unlocked, refurbished iPhone 6's off of eBay for $77. Now, all I need is a Smart or Globe SIM card, and it will have data capability, correct?

Member #4698
01-28-20, 14:52
It is easy to unlock a cell phone and far cheaper than buying a 2nd travel phone. I have used these guys a number of times. Very reliable, https://www.cellunlocker.net/unlock-att/

You purchase an unlock code. Then simply type the code into your phone when it prompts you to do so immediately after inserting a new sim card and turning your phone back on.

Mr Enternational
01-28-20, 15:22
It is easy to unlock a cell phone and far cheaper than buying a 2nd travel phone. I have used these guys a number of times. Very reliable, https://www.cellunlocker.net/unlock-att/

You purchase an unlock code.It is even easier and cheaper if you call the company you bought it from and tell them you want it unlocked.

Member #4698
01-28-20, 15:59
It is even easier and cheaper if you call the company you bought it from and tell them you want it unlocked.The big boys like AT&T will not unlock you cell phone if it is under contract. So why buy a cell phone under a 2 year contract? Simple, it is cheaper. When the new Samsung Galaxy S8 just came out, my cousin and I went to AT&T and bought into their promotion offer to buy one S8 at full price and get a 2nd one for free with 2 two year service contracts and 2 year 0. 00% financing on the 1st phone. We also accepted their family promotion for unlimited calling & data on both phones. Anyway, a month later I was in BKK and needed to unlock my phone, so I paid for an unlock code over the internet.

BTW, there is an even cheaper way to unlock a phone. Just find a local tech jockey. They will do it for half the price of the internet method. I once knew a guy in Jakarta who unlocked my cell phone a while back. He use to hang out in the back of a red pickup truck on a side street running parallel to Jin Jaksa. You probably know of equally tech savvy guys in Pattaya or MNL.

Mr Enternational
01-28-20, 16:25
The big boys like AT&T will not unlock you cell phone if it is under contract. So why buy a cell phone under a 2 year contract? Never had a problem with T-mobile doing it. These days they even have an app on the phone where you can unlock it yourself. The unlock lasts 30 days and you can do it up to 6 times. If you need it unlocked any more than that then you just call them. And as long as I have been a customer, before they had that app they would always permanently unlock it for me as soon as I got it.

These days phones are more advanced and certain models can not be unlocked by bootleg methods.

Also these days I have not seen a phone purchased under contract from a carrier to cost any less. The difference is only that you are able to pay for it on a payment plan instead of up front.

Member #4698
01-28-20, 18:31
Interesting update on things Mr E. I will keep it in mind the next time I am in the market for a new phone. But right now I am still happy with my Samsung S8. The main advantage I see with buying direct from Samsung or any manufacturer, for that matter, is you get a much less bloated phone. AT&T really adds on the craplets. Zero financing is good too, but you don't need to buy from the service company to get that.

WestCoast1
01-28-20, 22:57
The big boys like AT&T will not unlock you cell phone if it is under contract. Not so NB. Federal law (about 8 years now) requires your carrier to give you (free of charge) an unlock code and instructions for the procedure anytime you ask for one. You have to call ATT's customer service number (611?) to request it. They will send it to your email address on file. Have unlocked all of my ATT and TMobile phones this way over the years, and had the unlock code in my inbox within 48 hours of phone purchase. In addition, many phone repair shops in the US can unlock your phone for a fee ($20-$40). Phone repair shops in Phils will do it for about half that price.

There is a second process called 'rooting' your phone, which is not the same as unlocking. Rooting allows you to remove the bloatware that your carrier puts on all its phones (extra ATT junk apps that come with the phone that you normally cannot remove without rooting the phone. Rooting the phone might void its warranty).

Concur also with MR E on the price. Walk into any TMobile, ATT, or Verizon store. Look at the price for any phone on the shelf. If the price is, say, $720, and they offer a contract of payments over 24 months, the monthly price will be $30, as 24 x $30 = $720. The monthly price will total to the actual price. You can unlock this phone right after you walk out the door with it. Some carriers even offer an app already included in the phone that will unlock it, so you don't have to call and ask for the unlock code.

Kabul Guy
01-29-20, 02:53
Will be in town on a short layover. Any info or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!I'd recommend Air Force One or Flight 168, same building, lots of discussion on them here. Traffic just about anywhere else can easily eat up all the time you have available.

Don't forget to allow time for customs, immigration and reclaiming luggage then rechecking in.

Kabul Guy
01-29-20, 02:57
Interesting update on things Mr E. I will keep it in mind the next time I am in the market for a new phone. But right now I am still happy with my Samsung S8. The main advantage I see with buying direct from Samsung or any manufacturer, for that matter, is you get a much less bloated phone. AT&T really adds on the craplets. Zero financing is good too, but you don't need to buy from the service company to get that.Samsung adds bloatware as well. All my phones are factory unlocked Samsung and have significant bloatware.

I never buy the most current model, just a few months ago I upgraded from my S5 to an S8+. Cost was less than half of a S10 and just over half of what the S8+ was when new.

Member #4698
01-29-20, 03:04
Not so NB. Federal law (about 8 years now) requires your carrier to give you (free of charge) an unlock code and instructions for the procedure anytime you ask for one. You have to call ATT's customer service number (611?) to request it. They will send it to your email address on file. Have unlocked all of my ATT and TMobile phones this way over the years, and had the unlock code in my inbox within 48 hours of phone purchase. In addition, many phone repair shops in the US can unlock your phone for a fee ($20-$40). Phone repair shops in Phils will do it for about half that price.

There is a second process called 'rooting' your phone, which is not the same as unlocking. Rooting allows you to remove the bloatware that your carrier puts on all its phones (extra ATT junk apps that come with the phone that you normally cannot remove without rooting the phone. Rooting the phone might void its warranty).

Concur also with MR E on the price. Walk into any TMobile, ATT, or Verizon store. Look at the price for any phone on the shelf. If the price is, say, $720, and they offer a contract of payments over 24 months, the monthly price will be $30, as 24 x $30 = $720. The monthly price will total to the actual price. You can unlock this phone right after you walk out the door with it. Some carriers even offer an app already included in the phone that will unlock it, so you don't have to call and ask for the unlock code.1. On unlocking a phone under a 2 year contract: All I know is I asked my friendly AT&T rep at the time I was in the store and bought my Samsung S8 if AT&T would give me the unlock code and I was told a very definitely NO. Maybe things have changed in the roughly 2 year interim.

2. On major carrier discounts: I am not in the market for a new phone, so I have not done any recent research on the subject. My Samsung S8 is just fine, But just now out of curiosity I performed a quick internet search for "best deal on new Samsung phone" and this offer below from Verizon popped up. I know it is avery muddled offer and I treat it with a large grain of scepticism, but if I was interested in buying a new phone I would call Verizon and have them spell out for me exactly how much I would save / how much it would net cost to buy a new S10 and switch to them. Below is the offer word for word:

"Here's the deal.

Get $200 off a Samsung Galaxy S10 or Note10 smartphone.

Add a Samsung Galaxy S10, S10+, S10 e, S10 5 G, Note10, Note10+ or Note10+ 5 G with monthly device payments or at full retail price to your cart.

Get $200 credited to your account over 24 months.

Plus, get a $200 Prepaid Mastercard when you switch to Verizon on Unlimited.

Add a Samsung Galaxy S10, S10+, S10 e, S10 5 G, Note10, Note10+ or Note10+ 5 G smartphone with monthly device payments to your cart, then activate on a new smartphone line of service with Verizon Unlimited.

After checkout, visit vzw.com/ digitalrebatecenter. Enter promo code NEWYEAR200 and the other necessary information when prompted.

Receive your prepaid Mastercard within 8 weeks.

Save up to another $500 with select trade-in when you switch.

Trade in one of the phones below within 30 days after checkout.

Get up to $500 credited to your account over 24 months.

Trade in:

IPhone 11.
IPhone 11 Pro.
IPhone 11 Pro Max.
IPhone X.

IPhone XR.
IPhone XS.
IPhone XS Max.
IPhone 8.
IPhone 8 Plus.
Galaxy S10.
Galaxy S10+.
Galaxy S10 e.
Galaxy S10 5 G.
Galaxy S9.
Galaxy S9+.
Galaxy Note10.
Galaxy Note10+.
Galaxy Note10+ 5 G.
Galaxy Note9.
Pixel 4.
Pixel 4 XL.
Pixel 3.
Pixel 3 XL.
LG G8 ThinQ.
LG V50 ThinQ.

And get $500 with a new line.

Trade in:

IPhone 7.
IPhone 7 Plus.
IPhone 6's.
IPhone 6's Plus.
IPhone 6.
IPhone 6 Plus.
Galaxy S8.
Galaxy S8+.
Galaxy S8 active.
Galaxy S7.
Galaxy S7 edge.
Galaxy S7 active.
Galaxy S6.
Galaxy S6 edge.
Galaxy S6 edge+.
Galaxy S6 active.
Galaxy Note8.
Galaxy Note5.
Galaxy Note4.
Pixel.
Pixel XL.
Pixel 2.
Pixel 2 XL.
Pixel 3 a.
Pixel 3 a XL.
LG G7.
LG G6.
LG V40.
LG V30.
DROID Turbo 2.
Moto z4.
Moto z3.
Moto z2 force.
Moto z2 play.
Hydrogen One.

And get $350 with a new line.

Up to $1599.99 device payment purchase with new smartphone line & port-in req'd. Less $200 prepaid card (mailed within 8 weeks); $200 promo credit + up to $500 trade-in / promo credit applied over 24 months; promo credit ends if eligibility requirements are no longer met; 0% APR. Trade-in conditions apply. ".

Dg8787
01-29-20, 03:19
1. On unlocking a phone under a 2 year contract: All I know is I asked my friendly AT&T rep at the time I was in the store and bought my Samsung S8 if AT&T would give me the unlock code and I was told a very definitely NO. Maybe things have changed in the roughly 2 year interim.

2. On major carrier discounts: I am not in the market for a new phone, so I have not done any recent research on the subject. My Samsung S8 is just fine, But just now out of curiosity I performed a quick internet search for "best deal on new Samsung phone" and this offer below from Verizon popped up. I know it is avery muddled offer and I treat it with a large grain of scepticism, but if I was interested in buying a new phone I would call Verizon and have them spell out for me exactly how much I would save / how much it would net cost to buy a new S10 and switch to them. Below is the offer word for word:

"Here's the deal.

Get $200 off a Samsung Galaxy S10 or Note10 smartphone.

Add a Samsung Galaxy S10, S10+, S10 e, S10 5 G, Note10, Note10+ or Note10+ 5 G with monthly device payments or at full retail price to your cart.

Get $200 credited to your account over 24 months.

Plus, get a $200 Prepaid Mastercard when you switch to Verizon on Unlimited.

Add a Samsung Galaxy S10, S10+, S10 e, S10 5 G, Note10, Note10+ or Note10+ 5 G smartphone with monthly device payments to your cart, then activate on a new smartphone line of service with Verizon Unlimited.

After checkout, visit vzw.com/ digitalrebatecenter. Enter promo code NEWYEAR200 and the other necessary information when prompted.

Receive your prepaid Mastercard within 8 weeks.

Save up to another $500 with select trade-in when you switch.

Trade in one of the phones below within 30 days after checkout.

Get up to $500 credited to your account over 24 months.

Trade in:

IPhone 11.
IPhone 11 Pro.
IPhone 11 Pro Max.
IPhone X.

IPhone XR.
IPhone XS.
IPhone XS Max.
IPhone 8.
IPhone 8 Plus.
Galaxy S10.
Galaxy S10+.
Galaxy S10 e.
Galaxy S10 5 G.
Galaxy S9.
Galaxy S9+.
Galaxy Note10.
Galaxy Note10+.
Galaxy Note10+ 5 G.
Galaxy Note9.
Pixel 4.
Pixel 4 XL.
Pixel 3.
Pixel 3 XL.
LG G8 ThinQ.
LG V50 ThinQ.

And get $500 with a new line.

Trade in:

IPhone 7.
IPhone 7 Plus.
IPhone 6's.
IPhone 6's Plus.
IPhone 6.
IPhone 6 Plus.
Galaxy S8.
Galaxy S8+.
Galaxy S8 active.
Galaxy S7.
Galaxy S7 edge.
Galaxy S7 active.
Galaxy S6.
Galaxy S6 edge.
Galaxy S6 edge+.
Galaxy S6 active.
Galaxy Note8.
Galaxy Note5.
Galaxy Note4.
Pixel.
Pixel XL.
Pixel 2.
Pixel 2 XL.
Pixel 3 a.
Pixel 3 a XL.
LG G7.
LG G6.
LG V40.
LG V30.
DROID Turbo 2.
Moto z4.
Moto z3.
Moto z2 force.
Moto z2 play.
Hydrogen One.

And get $350 with a new line.

Up to $1599.99 device payment purchase with new smartphone line & port-in req'd. Less $200 prepaid card (mailed within 8 weeks); $200 promo credit + up to $500 trade-in / promo credit applied over 24 months; promo credit ends if eligibility requirements are no longer met; 0% APR. Trade-in conditions apply. ".Verizon network phone WILL NOT work in Philippines. Unless it is GSM network capable.

Dg8787
01-29-20, 03:23
Good one! LOL.

9 km across Manila can take hours as you know. That's what I meant. Probably better to fly in a girl from the province next time rather than wait for them to take the trinity of busses, jeepneys & tricycles.Trike, jeepney, bus and taxi can take 3-4 hours for the girl to travel.

Sometimes for Genesis bus from NAIA to NLEX is 3 hours. The bus makes a pit stop in Cubao.

Member #4698
01-29-20, 04:00
Verizon network phone WILL NOT work in Philippines. Unless it is GSM network capable.Good to know. So you are saying a PI sim card will not work in a Verizon phone. But a Verizon Samsung Phone with an American sim card would still work in the PI if connected to local Wi Fi, right?

In any case, I found a similar trade-in deal with AT&T. I know AT&T phones work in the PI. Unlocked with a local sim and locked or unlocked with US sim and a wifi connection.

RainmanSahut
01-29-20, 04:51
Hello!

Most Current cell phones Within past 4 years Samsung Or Iphones will work either GSM desired band and CDMA Verizon / Sprint.

So being Verizon or Sprint does not matter. Google the model on internet and ask, GSM capable.

You need to make sure the phone You buy is unlocked.

IF you are still under contract, call your provider and tell them You are going to travel international and ask them to Unlock phone for travel, usually they will no problem.

If your phone is No Longer under contract, call the provider and ask for them to permanently Unlock the phone. They should.

Wifi, the phone should work WiFi whether locked or not, no matter carrier.

Be careful buying Used phones from unknown people saying the phone is Unlocked. Go to your carrier and ask them to check it for You before paying them. You carrier will check for Free as you stand there.

A locked phone is not as easy to unlock as mentioned earlier. Yes, older phones Are not so hard, but newer Galaxy 8, 9, 10 or Iphones 7,8,9,10 or 11 are basically impossible to unlock these days.

Good Luck!

Happy Hunting.

Rainman.

Good to know. So you are saying a PI sim card will not work in a Verizon phone. But a Verizon Samsung Phone with an American sim card would still work in the PI if connected to local Wi Fi, right?

In any case, I found a similar trade-in deal with AT&T. I know AT&T phones work in the PI. Unlocked with a local sim and locked or unlocked with US sim and a wifi connection.

Dg8787
01-29-20, 07:02
Good to know. So you are saying a PI sim card will not work in a Verizon phone. But a Verizon Samsung Phone with an American sim card would still work in the PI if connected to local Wi Fi, right?

In any case, I found a similar trade-in deal with AT&T. I know AT&T phones work in the PI. Unlocked with a local sim and locked or unlocked with US sim and a wifi connection.You are talking about 2 different functions.

1. Cellular service in Philippines is the GSM network which ATT uses. Verizon uses CDMA network which is different frequency than GSM. Unlocked GSM network cell phones will work in Philippines only for cell service.

2. Modern smart cell phones have Wifi capability whether using GSM or CDMA networks. Cell phone can be locked and still the WiFi capability will work.

Locked means the cell phone is locked to the original cell phone service provider.

Engine Driver
02-06-20, 04:59
A couple of chicks in Manila have complained that business is very slow. Other punters are staying away in case the chick has been infected after BBFSCIP! Too bad so sad. Is bat soup still on the menu at the restaurants in Binondo? DG, can you confirm please?

Dg8787
02-06-20, 18:17
A couple of chicks in Manila have complained that business is very slow. Other punters are staying away in case the chick has been infected after BBFSCIP! Too bad so sad. Is bat soup still on the menu at the restaurants in Binondo? DG, can you confirm please?Can't confirm batshit for you. I have never been to Binondo. Lately I am beginning to think you got stage 3, corkscrewers in the brain!

JalenJames
02-07-20, 09:01
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CenTexCrash
02-07-20, 12:44
If you had 2 days in Manila, land on a Wednesday morning bus out to AC Friday afternoon, how much focus should he put in LA Cafe vs Burgos St vs EDSA?

Member #4698
02-07-20, 13:55
If you had 2 days in Manila, land on a Wednesday morning bus out to AC Friday afternoon, how much focus should he put in LA Cafe vs Burgos St vs EDSA?Wednesday Night - Burgos. Thursday Night - Burgos again (Kojax: the #1 Go Go in the PI is only open Thurs, Fri & Sat) or EDSA. I would put zero focus on LA Cafe unless I had chosen to stay at a hotel in the neighborhood and was looking for an 2nd tryst at 2 am.

JohnIsFun
02-07-20, 21:08
I am Malaysian and I am finding sugarbaby by using Sugarbook. And this SB PM me, she said she want to go Malaysia, but she needs allowance, so, anybody see this girl before, if yes, tell me your review and experience.

https://sugarbook.com/member/profile/461388.I have no experience with sugar babe site. But from my own experience meeting girls from PC most of these girls are looking for money in one form or the other. But it does not mean they will keep there promise. If you have not met here before I would not send any money. If you are keen send her air ticket. If she is interested and likes your deal will make it to the flight.

Alternatively if you have time fly yourself to Philippines as there is lot of other girls and fun to be had there. Good luck and share your experience if you go ahead.

LineTwo
02-08-20, 00:51
Wednesday Night - Burgos. Thursday Night - Burgos again (Kojax: the #1 Go Go in the PI is only open Thurs, Fri & Sat) or EDSA. I would put zero focus on LA Cafe unless I had chosen to stay at a hotel in the neighborhood and was looking for an 2nd tryst at 2 am.Agreed, but XOXO where the Kojax girls work on the weekdays is good too. Personally, I like Plan b just as much.

The quality at EDSA is lower but you will have all the attention as it has always been pretty empty when I visited.

Dg8787
02-08-20, 01:35
I am Malaysian and I am finding sugarbaby by using Sugarbook. And this SB PM me, she said she want to go Malaysia, but she needs allowance, so, anybody see this girl before, if yes, tell me your review and experience.

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Wicked Roger
02-08-20, 01:42
Wednesday Night - Burgos. Thursday Night - Burgos again (Kojax: the #1 Go Go in the PI is only open Thurs, Fri & Sat) or EDSA. I would put zero focus on LA Cafe unless I had chosen to stay at a hotel in the neighborhood and was looking for an 2nd tryst at 2 am.I would add. Zero focus on LA Café unless you have a penchant for fuglies and want to ruin your trip home with bad dreams while you try and sleep on the plane.

Stick to Burgos CTC.

GDreams
02-08-20, 03:42
I am Malaysian and I am finding sugarbaby by using Sugarbook. And this SB PM me, she said she want to go Malaysia, but she needs allowance, so, anybody see this girl before, if yes, tell me your review and experience.Be aware that she may not be allowed to leave the country if she cannot show employment or support. Best to visit her and accompany her to Malaysia.

Free2
02-08-20, 07:14
Look for deals (hotels, flights, girls) in the next couple weeks. The virus scare is having a huge impact on the tourism industry in the Phils. Binondo especially. No doubt it will filter down to the girls.

I checked out of my hotel (a nice one) in Chinatown Thursday and got chatting with the manager. He said reservations are 30% of what they should be and that there is days in February where they have ZERO reservations. They also were not serving bat soup.

He said all hotels are lacking visitors as the Chinese (big spenders) are just staying home now (or are they dead or locked in their house? From what we see in the news).

SaltyPete
02-08-20, 15:14
Look for deals (hotels, flights, girls) in the next couple weeks. The virus scare is having a huge impact on the tourism industry in the Phils. Binondo especially. No doubt it will filter down to the girls.

I checked out of my hotel (a nice one) in Chinatown Thursday and got chatting with the manager. He said reservations are 30% of what they should be and that there is days in February where they have ZERO reservations. They also were not serving bat soup.

He said all hotels are lacking visitors as the Chinese (big spenders) are just staying home now (or are they dead or locked in their house? From what we see in the news).From what I read, Visa On Arrival is no longer given to Chinese tourists. Then there is the problem of finding air transportation out of China. As much as I'd like to take advantage of the low prices right now, I am not will to take the risk. The incubation period for this virus is 2 weeks. All the folks showing signs and being taken into quarintine now, have had two weeks to spread it. Or another way to look at it. All the current infection information is actually two weeks old. We will know today's actual situation in two weeks.

Sammon
02-08-20, 17:21
I am Malaysian and I am finding sugarbaby by using Sugarbook. And this SB PM me, she said she want to go Malaysia, but she needs allowance, so, anybody see this girl before, if yes, tell me your review and experience.

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Sammon
02-08-20, 17:36
Look for deals (hotels, flights, girls) in the next couple weeks. The virus scare is having a huge impact on the tourism industry in the Phils. Binondo especially. No doubt it will filter down to the girls.

I checked out of my hotel (a nice one) in Chinatown Thursday and got chatting with the manager. He said reservations are 30% of what they should be and that there is days in February where they have ZERO reservations. They also were not serving bat soup.

He said all hotels are lacking visitors as the Chinese (big spenders) are just staying home now (or are they dead or locked in their house? From what we see in the news).Chinese visitors are not big number compared to Koreans. Most Chinese come in your groups and they have deals with chinese oriented hotels. Single visitors are mostly big gamblers. As I know big gamblers get girls supplied to them from casino.

China is on a lockdown mode for some time to come. No visa on arrival at Philippines for now. Yes, it will hurt hotels and businesses in China Towns and Chinese oriented businesses everywhere. Especially escorted tour groups. I see them a lot here in USA.

Will the price come down? Hard to say. Unless it is a dump hotel historically high end hotels never lower their price.

Wicked Roger
02-08-20, 18:31
I have tried to take one of my previous beautiful GF out of Philippines before. It is a headache which is not worth it. It is better to enjoy them there and leave them there.I have taken numerous pinays out and no hassle. Some discussions with the immigration but they all arrived safely in KL, BKK etc. Took 2 bisexuals to BKK which was immense fun.

Can be done, need to plan and work at it but suspect JJ won't have that eye on detail or dedication etc as he thinks it is easy.

VictorHugo99
02-11-20, 01:30
Hi friends,

Anyone ever tried booking a short time 2 hour hotel in Ermita / Malate area which is girl friendly for a quick fix?

How does it work? Cost approximate?

Thanks again for tips.

Victor.

JalenJames
02-11-20, 04:24
Be aware that she may not be allowed to leave the country if she cannot show employment or support. Best to visit her and accompany her to Malaysia.But she just said sponsoring her the money, she did not mention about employment or support.

Albert9989
02-11-20, 10:13
First time a grab propose me to use the skyway, 45 pesos to add but no traffic to go to Makati.

Does this exist since long time?

TT2000
02-11-20, 10:52
It gets you to Makati quickly.


First time a grab propose me to use the skyway, 45 pesos to add but no traffic to go to Makati.

Does this exist since long time?

Kabul Guy
02-11-20, 10:54
First time a grab propose me to use the skyway, 45 pesos to add but no traffic to go to Makati.

Does this exist since long time?They always would ask if you anted to take the toll road, just up until a few month ago you had to pay cash, now they can add it to the fare and charge your grab pay or credit card whichever you are using.

SexinManila
02-11-20, 11:20
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CenTexCrash
02-12-20, 07:07
They always would ask if you anted to take the toll road, just up until a few month ago you had to pay cash, now they can add it to the fare and charge your grab pay or credit card whichever you are using.Last time I tried setting up GRAB in April 2019 trip fail message was in line of "Sorry, USA / Canada based cards are not accepted on Grab. Please use cash option. " Has this been updated?

Albert9989
02-12-20, 07:28
Last time I tried setting up GRAB in April 2019 trip fail message was in line of "Sorry, USA / Canada based cards are not accepted on Grab. Please use cash option. " Has this been updated?I use grab with European card from n26, works fine, but don't know for American ones.

Kabul Guy
02-12-20, 07:32
I use grab with European card from n26, works fine, but don't know for American ones.I use my Canadian card because my Philippine one will not work. ?

However the address on the Canadian issued card is the Philippines.

TT2000
02-12-20, 08:06
Many people here might have much more experience, so feel free to comment.

I noticed there are KTVs near EDSA. I know they are charge more, but one of the local taxi driver told me girls are pretty, and you pay the bill and take her out (if she agrees), she will perform well. Altitude of EDSA bar girls are depends. I have good experiences, and there was a period of time I encountered bad experiences in a row. I like morning sessions, so always ask for a LT. Some girls would agree the tip, etc, and then at 4,5 am there are all the reasons given that she needs to leave. Damage increases quickly. Bar fine might still below Burgos, but tip is at the same level, and in my opinion, talent level is lower. So I think, if anyway the cost is 7 k+, maybe a KTV girl will be more trust worthy? Well, I can tell now that they are the same. Higher pay doesn't mean higher work ethic. The taxi driver just developed his theory based on imagination.

So I did some search, go to the KTV directly and ask to meet the mamasang. There's always people rendering near the entrance and wants to bring you in. Don't follow them. Go to mamasang and tell her you are on your own. Some friend recommended this place. Otherwise your 'broker' will charge a certain fee when you get the bill. These KTVs are normally bigger than bars, with strippers show one by one. Actions started from 7 pm for the 1st batch. The 2nd batch arrived at around 9 pm and make the line up complete. I have to admit the show is good. This is the way girls promote themselves to potential clients. And in average talent level is higher. As for the cost side, if you can have mama waived out entrance fee, you need to pay 1-2 k to book a table, which include drinks for yourself. And you have to have at least one girl with you, with a charge of 600 peso per hour I think. If you want to shag the girl, you can pay 4 k to bring her upstairs (I didn't try), or, pay 7 k to bring her back for a long time. So for any LT, the cost is 9-10 k minimum.

The issue is, I quickly realized that within the 30-50 girls, only less than 5 are willing to do LT. They keeps on suggesting you to go upstairs with them. And they are more aggressive gold diggers. A girl I let go at last asked for a tip of 1 k, which I told her to f**k off. Another asked for supper at 10 pm, after we left the building. She ordered 2 set burge for herself and had me paid. As there are 2 cokes, I started to drink one, and it surprised her. Apparently she thinks that's all hers. I was quite doubtful how can her tiny body consume 2 huge burges, and it turned out that she booked her breakfast for tomorrow as well! So we went to the room, had one session and sleep. I was waked up next morning at 4:30 am and she wanted to leave! I complained that I agreed with mama and herself to have her leave at 8 am and have 2 sessions. Then all the excuses come. In the end I have to tell her, if she leaves, I will claim to the mama right away (so keep contact of the mama as always). Only this kept her. We get to sleep for another few hours till 7 am. Then, she refused to have a 2nd session unless I paid tip. So the same process went again. She fulfilled her duty at last and before she left, she didn't forget to ask for a taxi fee.

Overall I feel higher pay doesn't bring you better performance. I haven't been to airforce 1. Now I suppose the mentality is similar. If you want to spend a few k and enjoy the stripper show, KTV is ok. Maybe someone can tell the ST experience upstairs. I 'm more inclined to deal with FL and develop some regulars. This would take some time and hope the efforts would pay off. Too much dramas from those bar and KTV girls these days.

Healli
02-14-20, 05:32
Last time I tried setting up GRAB in April 2019 trip fail message was in line of "Sorry, USA / Canada based cards are not accepted on Grab. Please use cash option. " Has this been updated?For me, setting up credit card worked when I got to the destination country. Didn't work at home. Don't know if that's the same situation as yours.

SethMacfarlane
02-15-20, 02:27
Good to know. So you are saying a PI sim card will not work in a Verizon phone. But a Verizon Samsung Phone with an American sim card would still work in the PI if connected to local Wi Fi, right?

In any case, I found a similar trade-in deal with AT&T. I know AT&T phones work in the PI. Unlocked with a local sim and locked or unlocked with US sim and a wifi connection.Most higher end smart phones have been world phones for some time now (meaning they operate on both GSM and cdma). Verizon phones are unlocked by default, unless you're on a prepaid plan. I just came back about a week ago and my iPhone 11 pro worked fine. Before leaving the terminal, I bought a globe sim from one of the vendors (4 K, 20 ish gb of data+talk+text), the globe girl popped out my Verizon sim, installed the globe sim and set it all up, you can test it before you leave the booth. If attached is your phone, the s10 is a world phone. All devices will work on WiFi no matter where you are. Feel free to pm me any questions. As always, you can call Verizon and confirm that your phone is indeed unlocked and compatible with GSM networks. Have fun out there, I miss it already.

Black Traveler
02-18-20, 16:38
Hi,

I am traveling to Manila.

Just to know.

Can I bring a local girl up to my hotel room in Manila?

Is it safe for foreigners?

SethMacfarlane
02-18-20, 20:08
Hi,

I am traveling to Manila.

Just to know.

Can I bring a local girl up to my hotel room in Manila?

Is it safe for foreigners?I didn't haven any problems when I was there. I stayed at 1898 on p Burgos, I highly recommended it.

AussieGaigin
02-19-20, 03:51
Good to know. So you are saying a PI sim card will not work in a Verizon phone. But a Verizon Samsung Phone with an American sim card would still work in the PI if connected to local Wi Fi, right?

In any case, I found a similar trade-in deal with AT&T. I know AT&T phones work in the PI. Unlocked with a local sim and locked or unlocked with US sim and a wifi connection.A phone should work on wi-fi without any SIM card.

WestCoast1
02-19-20, 09:46
A phone should work on wi-fi without any SIM card.AG: What does that mean: should work? I popped out my Globe sim and am connected to a wifi. The phone will geo-locate (works with Google Maps app and Grab), but can't send a txt or make phone call.

KilledSoul
02-19-20, 10:43
AG: What does that mean: should work? I popped out my Globe sim and am connected to a wifi. The phone will geo-locate (works with Google Maps app and Grab), but can't send a txt or make phone call.If somebody from US is reading this, then I would recommend looking into Google Fi.

GDreams
02-19-20, 11:15
AG: What does that mean: should work? I popped out my Globe sim and am connected to a wifi. The phone will geo-locate (works with Google Maps app and Grab), but can't send a txt or make phone call.You can call and text quite cheaply by subscribing to Skype. I get 60 minutes of free Skype calls a month being a Microsoft subscriber. This is for a limited list of countries but I find using Skype for VOIP calls for times when any of the other chat apps are not convenient is quite easy and cost effective.

RainmanSahut
02-19-20, 11:39
Verizon & Sprint are CDMA technology based phones.

Most higher end Unlocked phones are capable of both GSM & CDMA.

On WiFi basically all phones are internet capable.

A sim card is required to make normal phone calls & text via telephone network.

You can make VOIP calls over the internet using multiple applications, IE WhatsApp, WeChat etc.

You can use Spype, Magicjack or other applications to call land line or cell phones in USA or most other countries, provided You Buy a subscription.

Personally, I think safest decision is to Always buy a local sim card and pay for at least a minimum ampunt of talk time for an Emergency situation.

Cannot dial Police or Ambulance on WhatsApp etc.

Safe & Happy Hunting.

Rainman.

If somebody from US is reading this, then I would recommend looking into Google Fi.

Jingo10
02-19-20, 11:49
AG: What does that mean: should work? I popped out my Globe sim and am connected to a wifi. The phone will geo-locate (works with Google Maps app and Grab), but can't send a txt or make phone call.Wow.

You can't use wi-fi to make regular calls or texts on your phone. You either need a local SIM card or your own SIM from home needs to work in the country you are visiting.

Over wi-fi you can make calls and send messages through an app, for example whatsapp.

On WiFi you can browse the internet and you can also download maps, languages for translation etc and once downloaded you can use these when not connected to WiFi.

PilotPaul
02-20-20, 02:37
You can't use wi-fi to make regular calls or texts on your phone. You either need a local SIM card or your own SIM from home needs to work in the country you are visiting.
.Actually you can.

Use Skype-out or Viber out to make a call via the respective app which will then all out into the regular network. You will need some credit on the service though.

I use this method sometimes so that I can have multiple numbers on the one phone.

Dg8787
02-20-20, 02:53
Actually you can.

Use Skype-out or Viber out to make a call via the respective app which will then all out into the regular network. You will need some credit on the service though.

I use this method sometimes so that I can have multiple numbers on the one phone.He is talking about REGULAR calls and text using GSM networks. So, no you can’t.

You are talking about VOIP calls using WiFi.

Black Traveler
02-20-20, 13:51
I didn't haven any problems when I was there. I stayed at 1898 on p Burgos, I highly recommended it.Thanks for your reply.

And I want to ask, Is there a possibility of cheating in apps that require face verification (such as Tinder), I'm always careful about the girl I'm talking to, maybe he is a scammer.

Free2
02-20-20, 17:51
...I'm always careful about the girl I'm talking to, maybe he is a scammer.Always watch out when the girl you are talking to is a 'he'!

Tiger1973
02-21-20, 01:46
Hi,

I am traveling to Manila.

Just to know.

Can I bring a local girl up to my hotel room in Manila?

Is it safe for foreigners?It is always safe to bring girls back to room. However, security sometimes hassles you about bringing guests back to room. Best way is to always list 2 guests in room or more if allowed. If security questions, just tell them she is your asawa (wife). They will not bother you unless it's late at night like after 10 pm. May also be a good idea to register them with security because they may call you after the girl leaves to make sure everything is OK. It's possible she may have ripped you off and can hold her if it was true. Lastly, make sure the girl is over 18. You will be in deep trouble if she is a minor. Good luck.

Engine Driver
02-22-20, 21:50
Hi,

I am traveling to Manila.

Just to know.

Can I bring a local girl up to my hotel room in Manila?

Is it safe for foreigners?The Philippines is a very strict Catholic country and the people have very high moral standards. They are religious and God fearing and girls generally remain chaste before marriage. Prostitution is also illegal. You will not be able to bring a local girl up to your hotel room unless you can produce a marriage certificate. Please do not offend the hotel staff. Remember, you are a guest in the country so please be culturally aware. Save your sexual adventures for Thailand or other countries where prostitution is acceptable.

The Philippines is safe for foreigners as long as you do not venture on the streets on your own at night. People are desperately poor, and lone foreigners on the streets make for easy mugging victims.

Albert9989
02-23-20, 02:43
You will not be able to bring a local girl up to your hotel room unless you can produce a marriage certificate. Please do not offend the hotel staff. Hmmmm ED are you really talking about Manila?

Kabul Guy
02-23-20, 02:54
Hmmmm ED are you really talking about Manila?He was but he was speaking sarcasm.

Acejack
02-23-20, 08:14
Hmmmm ED are you really talking about Manila?I wouldn't question the engine driver albert, if he says don't come then its best to say 3 heil marys and heed his advice.

Albert9989
02-23-20, 09:16
I wouldn't question the engine driver albert, if he says don't come then its best to say 3 heil marys and heed his advice.Oh, got it, sorry, going to the church right now!!

VictorHugo99
02-24-20, 00:18
This is so hilarious.

Vic.


The Philippines is a very strict Catholic country and the people have very high moral standards. They are religious and God fearing and girls generally remain chaste before marriage. Prostitution is also illegal. You will not be able to bring a local girl up to your hotel room unless you can produce a marriage certificate. Please do not offend the hotel staff. Remember, you are a guest in the country so please be culturally aware. Save your sexual adventures for Thailand or other countries where prostitution is acceptable.

The Philippines is safe for foreigners as long as you do not venture on the streets on your own at night. People are desperately poor, and lone foreigners on the streets make for easy mugging victims.

Mackapaka
02-24-20, 11:49
The Philippines is a very strict Catholic country and the people have very high moral standards. They are religious and God fearing and girls generally remain chaste before marriage. Prostitution is also illegal. You will not be able to bring a local girl up to your hotel room unless you can produce a marriage certificate. Please do not offend the hotel staff. Remember, you are a guest in the country so please be culturally aware. Save your sexual adventures for Thailand or other countries where prostitution is acceptable.

The Philippines is safe for foreigners as long as you do not venture on the streets on your own at night. People are desperately poor, and lone foreigners on the streets make for easy mugging victims.Hi Engine Driver,

Could you PM me please, I've tried to PM you but system does not like your username! Thanks.

M.

Sxxxx
02-24-20, 23:14
Hi Engine Driver,

Could you PM me please, I've tried to PM you but system does not like your username! Thanks.

M.Before sending a private message on this system you have to:

1. say Three Hail Mary's.

2. Cross your legs.

3. Have been to the local Confessional (Church) and asked for forgiveness for all your past sins.

Note: This website is for clean living, god fearing persons. If you, for example, viewed a porno website in the last 24 hrs you will have difficulty in sending a Private Message, on this holier than thou, ISG PM system.

May the Lord be with You, my friend, May the Lord be with You.

(and all the hot chicks of the Philippines, LOL).

Engine Driver
02-25-20, 03:00
Hi Engine Driver,

Could you PM me please, I've tried to PM you but system does not like your username! Thanks.

M.You will need to be a member to have PM access. With one post only to your name, have you paid your annual $20 subscription?

Goferring
02-25-20, 05:30
Before sending a private message on this system you have to:

1. say Three Hail Mary's.

2. Cross your legs.

3. Have been to the local Confessional (Church) and asked for forgiveness for all your past sins.

Note: This website is for clean living, god fearing persons. If you, for example, viewed a porno website in the last 24 hrs you will have difficulty in sending a Private Message, on this holier than thou, ISG PM system.

May the Lord be with You, my friend, May the Lord be with You.

(and all the hot chicks of the Philippines, LOL).Yeah. Or, in good Catholic tradition, just pay $25 for membership / redemption. 😁.

Either will work.

Enjoy. G.

Sxxxx
02-25-20, 06:18
Yeah. Or, in good Catholic tradition, just pay $25 for membership / redemption. 😁.

Either will work.

Enjoy. G.Said person already has PM facility, and intended recipients PM box is not 'full'. PM definitely available to "said person" and intended 'recipient.'

Hence, being the good Samaritan that I am, I sent said person a sensible clear PM on how to do what he wanted to do.

Having not received a reply and a Christian 'Thank You' from him, I decided on a nonsensical post.

It's not making sense any more, so I will opt out.

Praise be the Lord, praise be the Hookers, and any and all 'said persons' , plus all those Mongers who cop the new virus.

Kabul Guy
02-25-20, 23:13
....

Note: This website is for clean living, god fearing persons. If you, for example, viewed a porno website in the last 24 hrs you will have difficulty in sending a Private Message, on this holier than thou, ISG PM system.

May the Lord be with You, my friend, May the Lord be with You.

(and all the hot chicks of the Philippines, LOL).I got banned for a week for watching porn once.

Of course I was getting a BBBJ as well.

Mr Enternational
02-29-20, 09:19
If I would not have seen it with my own eyes. I am in LA Cafe right now. 5 Korean guys (4 wearing masks) walked in and sat at the table behind me. Out of nowhere comes like 20 chicks surrounding that table. These were not the chicks that have been here the last 15 minutes that I have been sitting here either. I tried to ask a couple of chicks why everyone is going to that table. They completely ignored me. Then I asked the waitress why all of those chicks are at that table. She said they like Japanese.

Bushes
03-01-20, 02:08
If I would not have seen it with my own eyes. I am in LA Cafe right now. 5 Korean guys (4 wearing masks) walked in and sat at the table behind me. Out of nowhere comes like 20 chicks surrounding that table. These were not the chicks that have been here the last 15 minutes that I have been sitting here either. I tried to ask a couple of chicks why everyone is going to that table. They completely ignored me. Then I asked the waitress why all of those chicks are at that table. She said they like Japanese.Still better she say "they like Japanese " about the Koreans than "they don't like you".

Mr Enternational
03-02-20, 01:32
Still better she say "they like Japanese " about the Koreans than "they don't like you".I thought they were Korean but the waitress knew they were Japanese. I also knew they did not like me because when I spoke they said absolutely nothing. They looked at me like I was an alien and ran away from me to get closer to the Japanese guys.

Sxxxx
03-02-20, 02:02
If I would not have seen it with my own eyes. I am in LA Cafe right now. 5 Korean guys (4 wearing masks) walked in and sat at the table behind me. Out of nowhere comes like 20 chicks surrounding that table. These were not the chicks that have been here the last 15 minutes that I have been sitting here either. I tried to ask a couple of chicks why everyone is going to that table. They completely ignored me. Then I asked the waitress why all of those chicks are at that table. She said they like Japanese.Japanese have always been 1st preference for the girls, and remain so today.

Koreans are number two.

We are "left overs" , and they will do biz with us, if there are no Japanese / Koreans.

Reason: Generous with their money. Penis to fit (same / similar as Filipino males).

Mr Enternational
03-02-20, 03:30
DIA and WeChat have pretty much dried up. The best action is on Tinder, but the best Tinder chicks do not come cheap. They want 5000 and 6000. I have never given that much for P4P on this planet and I do not think I am about to start now. It is kind of tempting though.

The past few nights I have had 1 WeChat chick, 1 DIA chick, and 1 Tinder chick come stay all night for 2000. One of the WeChat chicks works in the office at a construction company and makes 16,000 pesos per month. I have known her on there for a while but for some reason we could never get together. Fast forward to this trip and she came right over. She lives with 3 other chicks. They did not know 1 of the roomies had a gambling problem. They got home from work and saw the other chick had wiped them out and skipped town. So she needed money.

The DIA chick is a cashier and had to be at work at 11 this morning. Still it seems I had to push her out of the door.

The Tinder chick was hanging out in Makati with her married friends Saturday night. When it was time to leave her friends went home and she came to me. Couldn't get her to leave the next morning either, except her nanny kept blowing up her phone asking where she was.

Pics were sent to me by 2 Tinder chicks that want 5000.

Engine Driver
03-02-20, 04:54
If I would not have seen it with my own eyes. I am in LA Cafe right now. 5 Korean guys (4 wearing masks) walked in and sat at the table behind me. Out of nowhere comes like 20 chicks surrounding that table. These were not the chicks that have been here the last 15 minutes that I have been sitting here either. I tried to ask a couple of chicks why everyone is going to that table. They completely ignored me. Then I asked the waitress why all of those chicks are at that table. She said they like Japanese.Mr E,

Please don't feel slighted. You need to think like a Flip hooker to get to the bottom of your problem. If I was a Flip hooker, would I want to be pounded mercilessly for 4-hours, then literally torn apart by that rogue elephant monster cock for only 1,000 pesos? Or would I prefer to hang out with a cool Jap half your age, drink nice tequila and then get paid 5,000 pesos (2-2-5), plus transport money?

Goferring
03-02-20, 06:48
DIA and WeChat have pretty much dried up.The whole referal / seconder to sign into WeChat killed any new or repeat memberships.

I was a user, changed phone numbers and now cannot open a new account without a current member vouching for me.

Manila does warp some girls' sense of value. I've had serious quotes of 15 k! As I've said before, just go to the source and get the same thing for 1 k straight out of the province.

Enjoy. G.

Mr Enternational
03-02-20, 07:40
I have posed the question here a few times about why a lot of these chicks do not have widespread chat apps like Whatsapp. Well the WeChat girl told me that her phone belongs to the company she works for and she can not download anything. The company's owner is Chinese so they use WeChat for all of their group chats.

Mr Enternational
03-02-20, 07:46
I went to Robinson's yesterday to meet up with another DIA chick. I walked in and stood at the post in front of Starbucks and Krispy Kreme. A chick came up to me asking if I wanted girls. I told her no that I was waiting for someone. She asked if I liked small, medium, or large. I told her it depends on my mood. She pointed to 3 chicks that were standing closer to Starbucks. I told her that I had been coming here for years and knew the routine of Robinson's girls.

I would not have wanted any of them that were there at that moment, but she insisted I take her whatsapp and message her when I wanted girls. Her name is Stevie. She said like Stevie Wonder.

InternationalXXX
03-02-20, 12:17
Hi guys,

Do any of you guys have a good driver / private car hire you can recommend? I'm going down to Puerto Galera for a long weekend and wanted a good driver to take me down to Batangas and do the pickup on return.

Any recommendations appreciated!

Paladin30
03-02-20, 13:00
Just wondering if anyone here has experienced taking a Smooci girl on vacation somewhere. There is one girl that I like and am thinking about booking her for days. All I want to know is the price scheme. Do I need to pay the full price as per the list in the page, or can I simply contact her privately and try to negotiate?

I do not mind paying a premium for quality but I do not want to empty my pocket doing it.

D Cups
03-02-20, 14:08
The whole referal / seconder to sign into WeChat killed any new or repeat memberships.

I was a user, changed phone numbers and now cannot open a new account without a current member vouching for me.

Manila does warp some girls' sense of value. I've had serious quotes of 15 k! As I've said before, just go to the source and get the same thing for 1 k straight out of the province.

Enjoy. G.Howyadoin G Man? Yes, these manila thrillas are delusional. Country girls are the best.

Goferring
03-02-20, 21:15
Just wondering if anyone here has experienced taking a Smooci girl on vacation somewhere. There is one girl that I like and am thinking about booking her for days. All I want to know is the price scheme. Do I need to pay the full price as per the list in the page, or can I simply contact her privately and try to negotiate?

I do not mind paying a premium for quality but I do not want to empty my pocket doing it.Smoocci lists varying prices usually upto 24 hours. However this would be hella expensive for a multi day holiday.

Assuming you are a repeat customer who treated her ok then just call her private mobile number and put a proposal to her.

Note I said put a proposal to her not ask 'how much?

Also keep in mind that a the girl you hired by the hour is totally different to the girl you can be stuck with for days on end:


Hi guys,

Just a post on a trip I am having to highlight some of the risks and rewards of taking a multi day / week trip with a BG.
........

Paladin30
03-03-20, 00:20
Smoocci lists varying prices usually upto 24 hours. However this would be hella expensive for a multi day holiday.

Assuming you are a repeat customer who treated her ok then just call her private mobile number and put a proposal to her.

Note I said put a proposal to her not ask 'how much?

Also keep in mind that a the girl you hired by the hour is totally different to the girl you can be stuck with for days on end:You are right about the last sentence. Hence my reason of contemplating. Thanks.

PilotPaul
03-03-20, 03:51
I would not have wanted any of them that were there at that moment, but she insisted I take her whatsapp and message her when I wanted girls. Her name is Stevie. She said like Stevie Wonder.So maybe she doesn't know how the girls look.

InternationalXXX
03-03-20, 06:27
Just wondering if anyone here has experienced taking a Smooci girl on vacation somewhere. There is one girl that I like and am thinking about booking her for days. All I want to know is the price scheme. Do I need to pay the full price as per the list in the page, or can I simply contact her privately and try to negotiate?

I do not mind paying a premium for quality but I do not want to empty my pocket doing it.My experience is that I have always regretted such arrangements when I have made them. This is mostly because after the first day I find I don't get on at all with the person and I wish they would leave so I can relax or whatever LOL It also tends to be expensive.

When such arrangements have worked it's with someone I have met once or twice before and hopefully a non-pro who just appreciates having a nice break all expenses paid. So I'd always recommend that than chancing it with a pro off Smoochi and being stuck with the results of that gamble for days and being significantly out of pocket. If you have time better to line up some dates etc. In Manila or wherever first then take your favourite off for a few days to Palawan together or whatever your plans is. I have done exactly this repeatedly and been happy with the results!

Bushes
03-03-20, 14:54
I went to Robinson's yesterday to meet up with another DIA chick. I walked in and stood at the post in front of Starbucks and Krispy Kreme. A chick came up to me asking if I wanted girls. I told her no that I was waiting for someone. She asked if I liked small, medium, or large. I told her it depends on my mood. She pointed to 3 chicks that were standing closer to Starbucks. I told her that I had been coming here for years and knew the routine of Robinson's girls.

I would not have wanted any of them that were there at that moment, but she insisted I take her whatsapp and message her when I wanted girls. Her name is Stevie. She said like Stevie Wonder.I have started avoiding meeting girls at Starbucks. Had it happen in Asia over the years whereby the girls were asked to leave if they did not buy something. WTF. Starting to sound like the US locations.


I thought they were Korean but the waitress knew they were Japanese. I also knew they did not like me because when I spoke they said absolutely nothing. They looked at me like I was an alien and ran away from me to get closer to the Japaneguys.It is like going to a restaurant where the waiters are snootier than you. Could never understand why people keep going back. Same with the pros. Never understood the rationale of a hooker with an inflated ego. I would just move on to another with a better attitude. There are plenty of other girls.

Retgilpo
03-05-20, 12:37
I red some time ago that the mayor of Quezon city closed all girly bars.

And Cubao city is a part of Quezon city as far as my knowledge reaches.

So can anybody confirm all the barfun is gone in Quezon and cubao (and maybe even in Marikina and Antipolo).

I was in all locations 5 years ago. For the average farang it is all to expensive, but the same I say about Pasay and ermita and malate.

I am Dutch so my English is not perfect web administrator, you try type in dutch or Tagalog once.



I've RTFF and know this is in the wrong thread.

I'd appreciate some advice on Quezon City. I'm thinking of spending a couple of nights in QC to check out the scene. Should I be staying along Timog Avenue or Aurora Boulevard, Cubao for better mongering action. I'm not really into KTVs. I'm looking for bars with girls you can barfine, bars with freelancers. Another monger recently wrote about his positive experience at Bang Bang-ali Bar, just off Aurora. I appreciate that patrons will all be Filipinos and understand the risks, but am really curious.

Also, if my international flight is leaving at 8. 00 pm at NAIA, what time should I be leaving QC by cab?

Dion Cassius
03-08-20, 16:21
I'm in the Philippines for 3 weeks, I arrived last Thursday and was in Manila for 4 days, in Makati, at the Lub the hotel (on Makati Ave near the top end of P Burgos), and am now in Cebu. When I left my hotel in Makati on Monday morning at about 10 am, it only took 20 minutes to get to the airport. But there was a massive queue of people lining up outside the Domestic Terminal building waiting to get into the Terminal building where there is a scanner located at the actual entrance. It took just over 20 minutes to get to the entrance where my bags were scanned then I was inside the Terminal building, and then a brief wait at the check-in counter for my airline.

So, last Thursday night I headed out to P Burgos, checked out a few bars, plenty of FLs about, some offering a session for just PHP500 but I did not see anyone who made me feel horny! I met one potential girl in one of the bars and planned to go back to bar-fine her on Friday night. But on Friday night I met someone else at another bar on P Burgos, and ended up bar-fining her, for PHP3900. I invited her to spend the night, until at least noon on Saturday and asked her how much she wanted, but she said 'up to you' and I left it at that. Anyway, she stayed till about 11.30 am on Saturday morning. No problem bringing her into the hotel, no ID was asked for. She is 19 (I am in my early 60's), which is in my preferred age range (18 to 23), slim, and she gave me one of those experiences that I will never forget! I say that as someone who has been mongering for about 40 years. I had planned (before our session started) to give her PHP2000, but ended giving her PHP3000 plus PHP500 for a taxi and a meal, she seemed well pleased. Well worth it, for a truly memorable experience.

The experience was in complete contrast to my trip to Pattaya in November. I had two girls, the first girl I had met on Thai Friendly a few days prior to the trip, we met up on my first night, had sex, and when I went to give her the agreed price of THB1500 for S / T I did a quick count in my wallet, in front of her, and noticed I was THB4000 light! To cut a long story short, I got the 4000 back, then gave her THB1500 and she left. The sex was nothing special.

Two days later I bar-fined a girl out of one of the go-go bars on Walking St, bar-fine was THB1500 and she asked for THB2000 for S / T (I asked for 1 hour and she agreed) and she was not interested in an all-night. She was 20, slim, but with huge natural tits. In the bar she did not object to me fondling her tits and a kiss on her lips, but in the S / T hotel, in Walking St, her mood changed. No kissing, not even a peck on the cheeks, and she objected to my attempt at fondling and licking her tits. And she refused any photos. So, after a quick fuck, she showered, then told me she had to go. I gently reminded her we had agreed to an hour, and that I still had about 30 minutes left, but she was adamant that she had to go. I was not in the mood for an argument so gave her her money and that was it. A very forgettable fuck and a very forgettable experience!

Anyway, here's a few photos of the girl I spent the night with in Manila;.Nice catch! Congratulations.

Member #4698
03-08-20, 16:40
I met one potential girl in one of the bars and planned to go back to bar-fine her on Friday night. But on Friday night I met someone else at another bar on P Burgos, and ended up bar-fining her, for PHP3900. I invited her to spend the night, until at least noon on Saturday and asked her how much she wanted, but she said 'up to you' and I left it at that. Anyway, she stayed till about 11.30 am on Saturday morning. No problem bringing her into the hotel, no ID was asked for. She is 19 (I am in my early 60's), which is in my preferred age range (18 to 23), slim, and she gave me one of those experiences that I will never forget! I say that as someone who has been mongering for about 40 years. I had planned (before our session started) to give her PHP2000, but ended giving her PHP3000 plus PHP500 for a taxi and a meal, she seemed well pleased. Well worth it, for a truly memorable experience.

The experience was in complete contrast to my trip to Pattaya in November. I bar-fined a girl out of one of the go-go bars on Walking St, bar-fine was THB1500 and she asked for THB2000 for S / T (I asked for 1 hour and she agreed) and she was not interested in an all-night. She was 20, slim, but with huge natural tits. In the bar she did not object to me fondling her tits and a kiss on her lips, but in the S / T hotel, in Walking St, her mood changed. No kissing, not even a peck on the cheeks, and she objected to my attempt at fondling and licking her tits. And she refused any photos. So, after a quick fuck, she showered, then told me she had to go. I gently reminded her we had agreed to an hour, and that I still had about 30 minutes left, but she was adamant that she had to go. I was not in the mood for an argument so gave her her money and that was it. A very forgettable fuck and a very forgettable experience!

Anyway, here's a few photos of the girl I spent the night with in Manila;.Good report Mdemde covering both the highs (Burgos) and lows (Pat) of your recent mongering experiences. I especially liked the photos which lended credence to your reportage. I have just one criticism and that is you neglected to tell us the names of the bars you visited. That information is critical because without it I really didn't need to read what you posted. I already know that certain Burgos Bars have sexy young girls that know how to deliver the goods. Been there, loved it.

Blanquiceleste
03-09-20, 12:52
Mr E,

Please don't feel slighted. You need to think like a Flip hooker to get to the bottom of your problem. If I was a Flip hooker, would I want to be pounded mercilessly for 4-hours, then literally torn apart by that rogue elephant monster cock for only 1,000 pesos? Or would I prefer to hang out with a cool Jap half your age, drink nice tequila and then get paid 5,000 pesos (2-2-5), plus transport money?This logic is applicable to anyone, not just a Flip hooker.

Would you want a job where you get paid less, work 60 hour weeks and have a boss who makes your ex-wife look like Mother Teresa? Or would you have a nice cushy job, making good money and a boss who knows nothing about what you do and leaves you in peace?

Escort Fan
03-09-20, 21:57
I'd like to talk about privacy and the methods you use to keep yours in this digital world!

I meet a lot of girls in Manila and lately I noticed that almost all girls know my full name there is no privacy anymore. I found myself at disadvantage here because often I don't know the girl full name (then again I don't bother to find out).

Often I send girls a Grab. It presents two advantages, the girls is flattered that you send her a car, and you can monitor where she is, which is such a useful information vs. The girl telling her she's OTW when she's not. But if the girl pays attention, she can see your full name on the phone of the driver.

At the hotel when you go take shower, when you take a nap, the girl will often turn on the TV. In any semi upscale hotel when you turn the TV on, it displays a message like "Hello John Doe, welcome to our hotel blah blah ".

Note that aside from the digital world, when you go take a shower the girl can simply check your luggage tag but if you're smart you can take it off.

When you're in the hallways or at the buffet, hotel staff tend to call by your name especially if you're a regular client or what they consider a (semi) VIP (IE: you're a gold or platinum member in their hotel group loyalty program).

When you're home girls will ask you for 500 pesos to buy rice or whatever. Once in a while with a girl you want to see again, you're inclined to send her. Now the girl are smart they have paypal and of course if you send them a paypal there goes your privacy).

If a girl wants revenge, wants to blackmail you claiming she's pregnant etc. I can see a lot of reasons where the lack of privacy can become a problem. Especially for those fishing on dating sites and making semi fake promises and having girls dreaming of a better future getting brutally dumped after the first date!