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I've stayed in this area before. Its right near Araneta center. I wrote a post on a night I spent exploring the areae a year or so back. There are a bunch of girlie bars in the area to the east of Gateway Mall on aurora blvd and its side streets. So I could believe that there might be freelancers around, but I've never seen any that stood out.
This is a really busy area as there is a major bus station nearby.
There probably is a lot of crime in this area but I never saw any. My exposure was over the course of a 4 night stay in the area back in 2011 and my 1 night exploring at the end of 2019.
I would say, you could probably find some freelancers in the area, but you'd be I'm not sure that they would be high quality and you might spend quit a bit of time looking for them.
I have heard that the filipino nudie bars in the area are quite good, but a different experience than what you might be used to if your used to angeles or burgos.
If you can read some tagalog, you can learn more about the scene at manilatonight.
Also, I've never heard of this area referred to as Quirino, only as Cubao and sometimes Aurora.
No-Go Zones Episode 2.
Its about a place called Quirino and it states that this place is a 100% gang run area and that knife point hold ups are an every occurrence, I don't know how accurate that is. I have never been to this place nor would I want to go for a visit however there is one piece of information this video shed some light on a "New" area I was previously unaware of a few blocks away from that area. They name this area as a area where freelancers look for potential punters. Has anyone been out this way and is it really a red light district or a work of fiction? They look like they set up shop infront the the McDo that I have a street view of in the link down below. It looks like tis in front of the "Gateway Mall" is this a known freelance haunt? There do seem to be some short time hotels near by one called "Clixs Hotel" that seem to cater to a redlight clientele. I'm always open to new mongering grounds if this is in fact an area where freelancers hang out.
https://goo.gl/maps/ueKx8P4pfAStRdBd7
https://www.amazon.com/No-Go-Zones-Worlds-Toughest-Places/dp/B083P42MY2
Member #4794
09-28-20, 04:47
... There are a bunch of girlie bars in the area to the east of Gateway Mall on aurora blvd and its side streets. So I could believe that there might be freelancers around, but I've never seen any that stood out....
...I would say, you could probably find some freelancers in the area, but you'd be I'm not sure that they would be high quality and you might spend quit a bit of time looking for them....
I see these bars you are talking about maybe these freelancers try and catch some of the mongers before they get into the bars, thanks for confirming that there is some small redlight district situated here. I sometimes find some diamonds in the rough when off the beaten path but then again after you have been at this for a while the thrill of the hunt is sometimes more fun. I also oftentimes find that girls outside the main red light foreigner districts have lower expectations in general especially freelancers. They don't know yet how to fleece a foreigner, they haven't hit a whale yet, so even their wildest expectations are well below my budget. That's why I try and branch out to a different area every now and then.
I see these bars you are talking about maybe these freelancers try and catch some of the mongers before they get into the bars, thanks for confirming that there is some small redlight district situated here. I sometimes find some diamonds in the rough when off the beaten path but then again after you have been at this for a while the thrill of the hunt is sometimes more fun. I also oftentimes find that girls outside the main red light foreigner districts have lower expectations in general especially freelancers. They don't know yet how to fleece a foreigner, they haven't hit a whale yet, so even their wildest expectations are well below my budget. That's why I try and branch out to a different area every now and then.Thats true. A lot of the girls that will work in these filipino bars won't have had much interaction with foreigners. But theres also a much higher probability that their english will not be up to par. Theres a reason they are not working in burgos. That's been my experience at least. From what I've read in the manila tonight forums, the girls working in these bars can get anywhere between 2 k to 5 k per pop depending on the girl. That's on top of paying for the onnsite VIP room that you need to fuck her in. Also from what I've read takeout is much less common in these filipino bars, and sex is more often on site.
There are a bunch of girlie bars in the area to the east of Gateway Mall on aurora blvd and its side streets.
These are "pinoy-only" bars. All closed at present because of COVID-19.
I was taken out for an evening by my local "team" of 4 filipino guys from my office back in around 2006.
The guys warned me in advance that I would be the only foreigner in the bar but I would be OK as long as I stayed with them.
Cost me a fair bit because I ended up paying for the beers and the polutan.
We didn't buy any girls drinks. We decided that would be a more diplomatic strategy so as not to piss off the locals. We just watched the show.
It was an interesting night, but I can't say I enjoyed it.
No way would I go back there alone. I understand that some bars are still operating but currently closed. I haven't been to Gateway area for a long time.
I've stayed in this area before. Its right near Araneta center. I wrote a post on a night I spent exploring the areae a year or so back. There are a bunch of girlie bars in the area to the east of Gateway Mall on aurora blvd and its side streets. So I could believe that there might be freelancers around, but I've never seen any that stood out.
This is a really busy area as there is a major bus station nearby.
There probably is a lot of crime in this area but I never saw any. My exposure was over the course of a 4 night stay in the area back in 2011 and my 1 night exploring at the end of 2019.
I would say, you could probably find some freelancers in the area, but you'd be I'm not sure that they would be high quality and you might spend quit a bit of time looking for them.
I have heard that the filipino nudie bars in the area are quite good, but a different experience than what you might be used to if your used to angeles or burgos.
If you can read some tagalog, you can learn more about the scene at manilatonight.
Also, I've never heard of this area referred to as Quirino, only as Cubao and sometimes Aurora.That location is also close to the Vista Hotel, pretty nice place to stay in the area. Also, since today is October 1st, it now has been 45 years since the iconic Ali-Frazier boxing match took place, The Thrilla in Manila.
Interesting article.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkynn8/unintended-pregnancies-philippines-lockdown
Showdown.
WestCoast1
10-01-20, 13:17
Interesting article.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkynn8/unintended-pregnancies-philippines-lockdown
Showdown.Holy crap:
"The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) has said that the number of women expected to give birth this year could increase by 42% or 751,000 to reach a total of 2.6 million if mobility restrictions stay until the end of 2020."
Good catch SD. Blame it on WR.
........... Also, since today is October 1st, it now has been 45 years since the iconic Ali-Frazier boxing match took place, The Thrilla in Manila.That was not very long after I started pursuing our hobby. I saw that fight on tv and started becoming interested in Philippine women. I found them so beautiful. The Philippine women now don't look as lovely as those I saw back then.
Naked Gunz
10-01-20, 15:36
Holy crap:"The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) has said that the number of women expected to give birth this year could increase by 42% or 751,000 to reach a total of 2.6 million if mobility restrictions stay until the end of 2020."Good catch SD. Blame it on WR.SHEET! They can't fucking feed themselves as it is! That's 751 k more fathers abandoning their kids.
Holy crap:
"The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) has said that the number of women expected to give birth this year could increase by 42% or 751,000 to reach a total of 2.6 million if mobility restrictions stay until the end of 2020."
Good catch SD. Blame it on WR.Yes there is probably not much else to do. Although I wonder as many life in tiny living spaces with 6-7 people already. How do they have sex without the other housemates seeing it. Most of these children will suffer extreme poverty and go through hell probably.
Look at it from the bright side for us. A nice future replenishment of available girls 18-19 years down the line.
Look at it from the bright side for us. A nice future replenishment of available girls 18-19 years down the line.The impacts of the pandemic will be felt for decades.
For me these additional 376,000 females will be coming online when I'm 80.
SHEET! They can't fucking feed themselves as it is! That's 751 k more fathers abandoning their kids.And next year 751 k more single moms on PL or PC or Tinder looking for a foreigner who will accept them and their kid.
Soapy Smith
10-03-20, 09:51
No-Go Zones Episode 2.
Its about a place called Quirino and it states that this place is a 100% gang run area and that knife point hold ups are an every occurrence, I don't know how accurate that is. I have never been to this place nor would I want to go for a visit however there is one piece of information this video shed some light on a "New" area I was previously unaware of a few blocks away from that area. They name this area as a area where freelancers look for potential punters. Has anyone been out this way and is it really a red light district or a work of fiction? They look like they set up shop infront the the McDo that I have a street view of in the link down below. It looks like tis in front of the "Gateway Mall" is this a known freelance haunt?
https://goo.gl/maps/ueKx8P4pfAStRdBd7
https://www.amazon.com/No-Go-Zones-Worlds-Toughest-Places/dp/B083P42MY2The no-go zone in the amazon link is some distance from the McDonalds in the other link. The McDonalds is facing out onto Aurora Blvd. at the North edge of Gateway Mall. It is under the Araneta Center station on LRT2.
Quirino is actually four separate barangays in Quezon City, some distance east of Gateway and immediately north of the Anonas station on LRT2. Anonas station is the station to the east of Araneta Station, a kilometer or two away from Gateway.
I've actually been on foot in one of the Quirino barangays a few years ago. I made the connection after viewing part of the amazon video. I was directed there by Filipino friends to meet some folks in an office a few hundred meters from the Anonas station. A female student from one of the university belt schools in Manila City was sent with me to help translate. She was sort of an innocent type. No translation was necessary, as the Filipinos in the office spoke excellent English. Neither the student nor I had any sense of being in a dangerous area, so I'm a little surprised now after viewing part of the Amazon video. Since Quirino is actually four barangays, it's likely the gang activity is located a little further north from the LRT2 line.
I think the locals-only places RK refers to are just slightly east of Gateway, but not so far away as Quirino. I have heard about other locals-only places along Rodriguez Avenue in Quezon City west of EDSA, and the advice I got was similar to RK's report.
I have been in some locals-only places on the MacArthur Highway, just north of Monumento. There was definitely some take-out talent available, and since I was with a local who knew the owner, it was probably possible. But the one I wanted could not produce ID, and since she was young, I was not going to get caught with her in a hotel room. The string of take-out bars were recently demolished.
And next year 751 k more single moms on PL or PC or Tinder looking for a foreigner who will accept them and their kid.That's a much better timeline than waiting for the kids to grow up.
Steve Nash
10-06-20, 03:33
- Anybody going there I advice you to rent a house instead of a condo if you don't want to have any problems bringing different girls everyday. I bring 2-3 different girls a day many times and nobody said anything, just the people in front of the house would look and smile but nothing else, and the house I rent was only afew houses away to the barangay office, when I saw this I thought it was going to be a problem, but not problem at all, at least in the barangay I was staying in Pasay. I just made the girls come inside the house faster on the days I was bringing more than 1 girl in a day.
- Bars are open until 10 pm, there is curfew at 10 pm BUT you can walk and take a taxi at any time, taxis work 24 hours and also grab, just on some locations grab don't work during curfew, but on main streets they all work. Well at least in the places I was after midnight: Makati, Taguig, Pasay, Ermita, and Mandaluyong.
- I took the train many times, is very safe, never gets full, everyone is sitting down nobody standing up and enough social distance space to be safe, is just quiet, people don't talk much while wearing a mask. I had afew girls coming / leaving by train (Caloocan and Quezon City), a couple of them they didn't want to take a train but when you explain them that the trains are not full anymore like before they will come. If they don't I say bye, no way I'm paying taxi from too far. Well there was one that didn't want to come by train, but because she was one of the hottest on my list, I told her I will go to Caloocan by train and pick her up there, so I went there meet her in the last station and came back with her by train, took me like 15-20 minutes one way by train. It was worth it, not only she was one of the hottest (in face), but she had the best body and she was the best in bed too, she let me fuck her in the ass, I guess because we were both abit drunk.
- Travelling from Negros to Manila and then Manila to Canada wasn't a problem, I guess if you have a good reason to travel (to take my flight back to Canada) is easy to travel within Philippines. BTW from Negros to Manila was easy to get out from the airport, I was out of the airport faster than before, I had to wait for my friend 10 minutes when she pick me up, because it only took me 10-15 minutes to get out of the airport. I heard from Manila to other cities is more harder to get out of the airport and you also need a covid test done, a friend needed a covid test to go to Batangas from Manila, me coming from Negros to Manila I didn't need a covid test. I guess they are not strict if you come from a province with low cases.
- If you leave from Philippines to another country you need to have a covid test done within the last 3 days of your flight, otherwise they won't let you leave, maybe is because I made a stop in Taiwan. The covid test (24 hours result) cost me 8,000 php, you can get it for free in Mall of Asia but the result takes weeks and you have to book an appointment and make a lineup.
Great report Steve.
"I shall return" to Mabuhayland as soon as covid restrictions ends, missing out on the fun and great time with Pinoy girls. For me Filipina are cooperative, adventurous and loves to experiment in bed way more than Thai and Vietnamese girls. Also bar scene in AC / QC and LA Cafe is so lively. Do you know if LA Cafe / Havana still operating?
I always stayed in century park opposite Harrison plaza and never had issues walking in with girls although they have people standing right opposite the elevators. Is there any restrictions on inviting guest into your hotel room or would you recommend house / condo only?
Thanks,
Sexnomad.
- Anybody going there I advice you to rent a house instead of a condo if you don't want to have any problems bringing different girls everyday. I bring 2-3 different girls a day many times and nobody said anything, just the people in front of the house would look and smile but nothing else, and the house I rent was only afew houses away to the barangay office, when I saw this I thought it was going to be a problem, but not problem at all, at least in the barangay I was staying in Pasay. I just made the girls come inside the house faster on the days I was bringing more than 1 girl in a day.
- Bars are open until 10 pm, there is curfew at 10 pm BUT you can walk and take a taxi at any time, taxis work 24 hours and also grab, just on some locations grab don't work during curfew, but on main streets they all work. Well at least in the places I was after midnight: Makati, Taguig, Pasay, Ermita, and Mandaluyong.
- I took the train many times, is very safe, never gets full, everyone is sitting down nobody standing up and enough social distance space to be safe, is just quiet, people don't talk much while wearing a mask. I had afew girls coming / leaving by train (Caloocan and Quezon City), a couple of them they didn't want to take a train but when you explain them that the trains are not full anymore like before they will come. If they don't I say bye, no way I'm paying taxi from too far.
Great report Steve.
"I shall return" to Mabuhayland as soon as covid restrictions ends, missing out on the fun and great time with Pinoy girls. For me Filipina are cooperative, adventurous and loves to experiment in bed way more than Thai and Vietnamese girls. Also bar scene in AC / QC and LA Cafe is so lively. Do you know if LA Cafe / Havana still operating?
I always stayed in century park opposite Harrison plaza and never had issues walking in with girls although they have people standing right opposite the elevators. Is there any restrictions on inviting guest into your hotel room or would you recommend house / condo only?
Thanks,
Sexnomad.We're all itching to get back to PI here, but you're one of the rare ones who seem to actually enjoy LAC? I was last there in 2018 so maybe it's changed, but my experience was very crowded with girls from 3's to 6's when I went at 7 o'clock on a Friday and again at 5 o'clock on a Tuesday. Girls were friendly, if somewhat pushy about buying them shit, and wouldn't agree to ST for less than 2k. Overall impression was OK to bust a nut in a pinch, but probably wouldn't be my first choice of the night.
We're all itching to get back to PI here, but you're one of the rare ones who seem to actually enjoy LAC? I was last there in 2018 so maybe it's changed, but my experience was very crowded with girls from 3's to 6's when I went at 7 o'clock on a Friday and again at 5 o'clock on a Tuesday. Girls were friendly, if somewhat pushy about buying them shit, and wouldn't agree to ST for less than 2k. Overall impression was OK to bust a nut in a pinch, but probably wouldn't be my first choice of the night.I would say 3 to 4's. Have ventured in a few times and never walked out with anyone. The only one I would have done wanted 6000 for ST. The girls outside Robinsons I would say are somewhat better and I didn't do any of them either. This is in 2019 and 20.
That's not true buddy, I am also stuck outside of Mabuhayland and just like all PI loving fellow mongers itching to get back there. Its been more than a year for me now since I have been to PI. I enjoy LAC for the atmosphere and fun chit chat with girl there, agreed most girl's are between 3's to 6's but you do come across some rare gems who come their once or twice a month. Also you can find some 7's in room upstairs where band plays or the adjoining room.
Being going their at least once on my trips to PI since 2008 (If memory serves right it used to be called Manila bay cafe then) and it first PI club experience. Waiting for flights and borders to open soon, till then stay safe and play safe wherever you are.
Sexnomad.
We're all itching to get back to PI here, but you're one of the rare ones who seem to actually enjoy LAC? I was last there in 2018 so maybe it's changed, but my experience was very crowded with girls from 3's to 6's when I went at 7 o'clock on a Friday and again at 5 o'clock on a Tuesday. Girls were friendly, if somewhat pushy about buying them shit, and wouldn't agree to ST for less than 2k. Overall impression was OK to bust a nut in a pinch, but probably wouldn't be my first choice of the night.
How did you even get in, with the Philippine quarantine? I thought they weren't letting anyone into the entire country? I'm truly amazed that you got in.
And how did you get out on a three day notice of a negative result if it takes two weeks to receive it? Sounds like classic Filipino logic to me XD.
- Travelling from Negros to Manila and then Manila to Canada wasn't a problem, I guess if you have a good reason to travel (to take my flight back to Canada) is easy to travel within Philippines. BTW from Negros to Manila was easy to get out from the airport, I was out of the airport faster than before, I had to wait for my friend 10 minutes when she pick me up, because it only took me 10-15 minutes to get out of the airport. I heard from Manila to other cities is more harder to get out of the airport and you also need a covid test done, a friend needed a covid test to go to Batangas from Manila, me coming from Negros to Manila I didn't need a covid test. I guess they are not strict if you come from a province with low cases.
- If you leave from Philippines to another country you need to have a covid test done within the last 3 days of your flight, otherwise they won't let you leave, maybe is because I made a stop in Taiwan. The covid test (24 hours result) cost me 8,000 php, you can get it for free in Mall of Asia but the result takes weeks and you have to book an appointment and make a lineup.
Steve Nash
11-01-20, 10:32
Great report Steve.
"I shall return" to Mabuhayland as soon as covid restrictions ends, missing out on the fun and great time with Pinoy girls. For me Filipina are cooperative, adventurous and loves to experiment in bed way more than Thai and Vietnamese girls. Also bar scene in AC / QC and LA Cafe is so lively. Do you know if LA Cafe / Havana still operating?I didn't pass by LA Cafe, BUT I did pass by Cafe Havana, the one in Greenbelt, but it was closed until further notice.
I always stayed in century park opposite Harrison plaza and never had issues walking in with girls although they have people standing right opposite the elevators. Is there any restrictions on inviting guest into your hotel room or would you recommend house / condo only?Guards in hotels and condos might let you bring one girl or two girls during your stay (because of Covid), but I doubt they will let you bring 2-3 different girls a day.
Maybe there is a condo where you can pay the guards, but is a hit and miss. Renting a house will solve that problem. Just remember to rent the house all for yourself, without sharing or having the owner live in the same house.
Steve Nash
11-01-20, 10:39
How did you even get in, with the Philippine quarantine? I thought they weren't letting anyone into the entire country? I'm truly amazed that you got in.I was in Philippines way before the quarantine started, back on January.
And how did you get out on a three day notice of a negative result if it takes two weeks to receive it? Sounds like classic Filipino logic to me XD.If you pay 8,000 php you can get the test result the next day, I got mine exactly after 24 hours. While I was in the airport making a line-up to get in, they email me the result, I just show them the result from my phone when I was check-in my luggages and they let me in.
MoskvaDesi
11-02-20, 11:35
I have been planning my long pending vacation trip and came across a blog named SwoopTheWorld, the guy there recommended Philippines as the best pussy paradise and I decided to give it a shot and changed location on my tinder to Manila, dude with in 2 hours of me swiping girls my Tinder was going crazy with all the matches. And best part is majority of them were gorgeous and some of them being absolutely drop dead gorgeous and still being head over heels on my white fit body. The girls have very very high sexual drive and I have had very good sexts with lot of girls. I can't wait to visit this paradise once international borders open. Really excited.
The girls have very very high sexual drive and I have had very good sexts with lot of girls. I can't wait to visit this paradise once international borders open. Really excited.I'm glad to read that you are having a good time and planning your first trip. Just be aware of pinas notoriously low conversion rate from chatting online to actually meeting and sealing the deal. I have litterally arrived with 100 new numbers and chat mates and had none of them work out. Yes, none. Conversely, I've had many many spectacular times with between 2 and 36 hours notice.
Have fun but don't believe everything that the girls promise online.
Enjoy. G.
And best part is majority of them were gorgeous and some of them being absolutely drop dead gorgeous and still being head over heels on my white fit body. The girls have very very high sexual drive and I have had very good sexts with lot of girls. I can't wait to visit this paradise once international borders open. Really excited.Philippine girls have seen plenty of white fit bodies. There were a USA Air Force base and a naval base full of young horny white fit bodies. Most of them enjoyed Philippine girls.
How do you know they have very high sex drive? I guess they told you!
Before you go read all the Philippine forums and field reports and get an idea. There are lots of scams. Make sure you are not fleeced. What they say on chatting does not necessarily come to fruition.
Wicked Roger
11-02-20, 23:10
Philippine girls have seen plenty of white fit bodies. There were a USA Air Force base and a naval base full of young horny white fit bodies. Most of them enjoyed Philippine girls.
How do you know they have very high sex drive? I guess they told you!
Before you go read all the Philippine forums and field reports and get an idea. There are lots of scams. Make sure you are not fleeced. What they say on chatting does not necessarily come to fruition.Well as he has 18 FRs Sammon and all asking questions in the Indian forum I think this is a wind up. Reading the other FRs shows questions and the words 'drop dead gorgeous' . Why a wind up? As anyone who reads any news (including the outlets that can barely print facts correctly) all say travel in general is restricted and if he / she has RTFF then the snippet on the continued ban on tourists would have been read also.
Desi. RTFF and type with 2 hands is a better approach to the Philippines.
Will be in Paranaque next year and will be there for a long time. Wondering if anyone knows of full service spa or bar near Moonwalk Village area? Any independents would work also. Will be seeing what I can find and help out other members with info. Trying to avoid going to airport area.
Will be in Paranaque next year and will be there for a long time. Wondering if anyone knows of full service spa or bar near Moonwalk Village area? Any independents would work also. Will be seeing what I can find and help out other members with info. Trying to avoid going to airport area.Ahhhh, you're going to hook up with Filipina you met online but will look for a little action on the side. Do keep us updated.
Will be in Paranaque next year and will be there for a long time. Wondering if anyone knows of full service spa or bar near Moonwalk Village area? Any independents would work also. Will be seeing what I can find and help out other members with info. Trying to avoid going to airport area.I do want to be the first to thank you before WR does, for your field report 2 and 1/2 years ago. If you found pussy then you will find it again.
I do want to be the first to thank you before WR does, for your field report 2 and 1/2 years ago. If you found pussy then you will find it again.Was able to get in contact with this one and is still available. Two others have disappeared sadly.
WestCoast1
11-28-20, 08:01
Morsel: G-Point girl.
Hey guys,
Okada Manila has reopened its poker room yesterday and in general is accepting visitors.
Is this a step towards gogos and bars reopening?
Towards accepting tourism?
Has anyone on the ground tried to visit burgos / edsa complex / bars in ermita or on roxas blvd. ? Are we coming closer?
Has anyone on the ground tried to visit burgos I can walk through Burgos each day and there is nothing except some V-seller and massage girls. Filling station, Cubana and Cheers are open, but all girlie bars are closed and not opening any time soon. If ever again. They're even trying to sell apartments in Citadel, Makati Palace and Oxford suites with prices way below Makati average. Wonder who will invest in a property in such an old and rundown building.
Locamotive
12-09-20, 21:10
I can walk through Burgos each day and there is nothing except some V-seller and massage girls. Filling station, Cubana and Cheers are open, but all girlie bars are closed and not opening any time soon. If ever again. They're even trying to sell apartments in Citadel, Makati Palace and Oxford suites with prices way below Makati average. Wonder who will invest in a property in such an old and rundown building.Info from a few bar workers on Burgos Street recently that they were contacted by owners to expect to return to work in January if interested. The COVID situation between now and then I'm sure can change those plans. Fingers crossed.
They're even trying to sell apartments in Citadel, Makati Palace and Oxford suites with prices way below Makati average. Wonder who will invest in a property in such an old and rundown building.Those buildings are below average and their prices are below average accordingly. The brave investors are buying. Things can turn fast as soon as people get optimistic again.
Wonder who will invest in a property in such an old and rundown building.Rundown old people? Chinese?
that they were contacted by owners to expect to return to work in January if interested. I don't see that happening but lets hope I'm wrong.
The brave investors are buying. I'd say the smart investors are buying now.
HellvelMan
12-10-20, 19:40
Hope every one doing good.
COVID played bad role in mongering.
Came across Facebook groups about women looking for love, single mom looking for foreigners like that.
I am looking for seniors point of view, how is the success rate in FB and any tips to find beautiful chicks in FB, I feel it is safe and it will make our trip more comfortable if we make FB friends before travel.
Thanks in Advance.
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I'd say the smart investors are buying now.There are definitely some bargains to be had out there. I was offered half interest in a massage place for 200 k. If I had really trusted the seller, I would have invested and just taken the profits in trade.
200 k for a couple massages with extras a week forever does not sound to bad, if you really think you will get that.
Whatever you invest in this country be prepared to lose it, especially if it is a little on the shady side. Lots of locals will make up a story to get you deported so that they can keep your investment.
Came across Facebook groups about women looking for love, single mom looking for foreigners like that.
I am looking for seniors point of view, how is the success rate in FB and any tips to find beautiful chicks in FB, I feel it is safe and it will make our trip more comfortable if we make FB friends before travel.
Same girls, same game, FB is just the contact method and you then enter the same circle of ex-BF, unmarried mothers, demanding relatives et etc.
Engine Driver
12-12-20, 07:44
Hope every one doing good.
COVID played bad role in mongering.
Came across Facebook groups about women looking for love, single mom looking for foreigners like that.
I am looking for seniors point of view, how is the success rate in FB and any tips to find beautiful chicks in FB, I feel it is safe and it will make our trip more comfortable if we make FB friends before travel.
Thanks in Advance.Fuckbook and Instagram are no different to any other dating site featuring Filipinas. Go to the Chatroom and Penpals thread and you will get all the information you need. All the candidates are desperately poor and unless you are prepared to start sending them money now, the conversation will end rather quickly. But you won't believe me, so just give it a shot and see for yourself.
Same girls, same game, FB is just the contact method and you then enter the same circle of ex-BF, unmarried mothers, demanding relatives et etc.I thought PinaLove was the bottom of the barrel but those groups really are for the burnt out battle axes. Good luck finding anyone sub 40 or remotely decent looking.
The only possible reason I could see for using the groups would be for guys that are intimidated by good looking young girls or those that specifically prefer older ladies. Most of the ladies there have done the foreigner circuit many times (look with familiarity with English, international money transfers, online phone topups and purchasing property) so anyone playing along should watch his heart and wallet.
Sorry if I'm offending anyone who may be using them. Just calling it as I see it. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Engine Driver
12-12-20, 11:45
I thought PinaLove was the bottom of the barrel but those groups really are for the burnt out battle axes. Good luck finding anyone sub 40 or remotely decent looking.
The only possible reason I could see for using the groups would be for guys that are intimidated by good looking young girls or those that specifically prefer older ladies. Most of the ladies there have done the foreigner circuit many times (look with familiarity with English, international money transfers, online phone topups and purchasing property) so anyone playing along should watch his heart and wallet.
Sorry if I'm offending anyone who may be using them. Just calling it as I see it. 😁.
Enjoy. G.I don't think there is any ranking system between DIA, FC and PL. They all have the same cross section of equally horrible girls. A girl is not going to think she is so ugly that she will limit herself to PL. Most girls join one of the sites on the urging of their friends who have all struck it rich marrying young, white, alpha-male New York investment bankers with houses in Scarsdale. Hahahaha. The only one which I think has a higher social ranking is Christian Filipina Dating. Any monger banged any hookers from that site yet? https://www.christianfilipina.com/.
Hope every one doing good.
COVID played bad role in mongering.
Came across Facebook groups about women looking for love, single mom looking for foreigners like that.
I am looking for seniors point of view, how is the success rate in FB and any tips to find beautiful chicks in FB, I feel it is safe and it will make our trip more comfortable if we make FB friends before travel.
Thanks in Advance.Send me a message and I will point you to the right groups.
Fuckbook and Instagram are no different to any other dating site featuring Filipinas. Go to the Chatroom and Penpals thread and you will get all the information you need. All the candidates are desperately poor and unless you are prepared to start sending them money now, the conversation will end rather quickly. But you won't believe me, so just give it a shot and see for yourself.Yes folks its quite bad in one of our favorite destinations https://news.yahoo.com/record-hunger-philippines-covid-restrictions-051357664.html.
Engine Driver
12-12-20, 20:45
There are definitely some bargains to be had out there. I was offered half interest in a massage place for 200 k. If I had really trusted the seller, I would have invested and just taken the profits in trade.
200 k for a couple massages with extras a week forever does not sound to bad, if you really think you will get that.
Whatever you invest in this country be prepared to lose it, especially if it is a little on the shady side. Lots of locals will make up a story to get you deported so that they can keep your investment.Too bad. It seems like you passed upon a sure winner there. LOL. Legitimate business people do not ever invest in massage parlors, brothels, or bars with hookers. Since time immemorial, those businesses have always been controlled by the underworld.
Too bad. It seems like you passed upon a sure winner there. LOL. Legitimate business people do not ever invest in massage parlors, brothels, or bars with hookers. Since time immemorial, those businesses have always been controlled by the underworld.She was very vague about what would be buying, what protection there was against competition, who would run the business etc. She would not say if the girls offered happy endings or how the business was protected from the police or official interference.
I never did find out how the building was owned, was it included in the business or just a lease?
All she would tell me was for my 200 k I could have half the profits from the place.
Had she offered me say 3 full service trips there a week for a year or two, I might have gone for it if the trust level was there.
She was very vague about what would be buying.This the Filipino way "vague" and it's unlikely the deal would have withstood your western inquisitiveness for business detail let along an engineers quest for detail!
Had a mate down in Mindanao offered a similar deal in an oyster farm. (oyster being the common thread with the massage business). He put money in and got zero out. Well he was never getting anything out and I think you realized that also.
Even getting the massage commitment would have been interesting as 'pre-paying' anything in Ph soon gets forgotten.
Many hopeful mongers currently sending cash will soon discover that cash this year does not equal pussy on arrival.
All she would tell me was for my 200 k I could have half the profits from the place.You should have taken it. 6 of my buddies and I have half shares too. We can't get there due to Covid but the Manager is sending us photos. Its great. We are just waiting for the profits to start pouring in.
Enjoy. G.
Had she offered me say 3 full service trips there a week for a year or two, I might have gone for it if the trust level was there.Why many are stuck on one or two girls who promise great service in exchange for money and help now?
Philippines will be a pussy paradise for a while. Just go there find, fuck, pay and leave. And repeat.
Chocha Monger
12-14-20, 02:31
Why many are stuck on one or two girls who promise great service in exchange for money and help now?
Philippines will be a pussy paradise for a while. Just go there find, fuck, pay and leave. And repeat.Once upon a time, mongers just flew into town like Georgie Pudding-Pie fucked the girls and made them cry. Then after they sprayed, the mongers ran away. Now, mongers are showing up at the airport with flowers, iPhones, marriage proposals, the deeds to houses, and funding for business start-ups.
Now, mongers are showing up at the airport with flowers, iPhones, marriage proposals, the deeds to houses, and funding for business start-ups.Many are not even showing up at the airport.
"What's your PayPal honey? I have a gift for you".
G.
Once upon a time, mongers just flew into town like Georgie Pudding-Pie fucked the girls and made them cry. Then after they sprayed, the mongers ran away. Now, mongers are showing up at the airport with flowers, iPhones, marriage proposals, the deeds to houses, and funding for business start-ups.And just how many mongers are showing up at the airport now? The very few that are are going straight to quarantine facilities.
Once upon a time, mongers just flew into town like Georgie Pudding-Pie fucked the girls and made them cry. Then after they sprayed, the mongers ran away. Now, mongers are showing up at the airport with flowers, iPhones, marriage proposals, the deeds to houses, and funding for business start-ups.This clearly explains the attitude of girls these days. It is like the song ' what have you done for me lately '. Before although we were sex starved never lost the sense that getting sex either from a bargirl or regular girls is a business transaction where money changes hands after the deed. Never on the promise. Nowadays supply is the same and maybe due to social sites on the internet maybe much more who are willing to drop their panties. Mongers are love struck like the guy in Thailand hoping for love with a bargirl and throwing money away and still expecting for a miracle. Yes, it is true more and more men have found out about sex travel. Only thing they do not know is how to tackle the minefield of how to get cheap sex and not fall head over heels with the first girl who is pretending to be best friend, best companion and best sex.
True monger negotiates, gets the best sex cheap and never fall for scams and protects his money.
Once upon a time, mongers just flew into town like Georgie Pudding-Pie fucked the girls and made them cry. Then after they sprayed, the mongers ran away. Now, mongers are showing up at the airport with flowers, iPhones, marriage proposals, the deeds to houses, and funding for business start-ups.The crazier American girls get the more you will see marriage minded men visiting the Philippines.
Pinaypounder
12-16-20, 19:13
I have been playing this game for almost 20 years, sent money 1 time unsolicited and never even met the girl in person.
I have chatted and listened to a couple of thousand women easy maybe more over the years. I have employed (legitimately) maybe 50 over the decades so I know them, their culture, their values and their mannerisms.
I have met maybe 400 and of them 10 that are equal to a smart educated western woman, actually maybe 8.
They view money and earning differently than us. They are like Jackals at a kill on the Savanh. You, the lioness did the work and you will get the most of the meat but they will take whatever and however they can and they won't owe you and they won't feel guilty. After all it was right there for the taking.
I have had 5 real Filipina GFs in addition to the staff they (Filipinas) even do this to each other but all white men are considered rich by default.
They have changed over the last 20 years though now they are far more bold and far more cunning with far less conscience and a big part of this is idiots who send money for nothing. Stop feeling guilty that you worked hard your whole life to earn what you have you earned it.
Most are sadly only ever to be fuck toys and as I age I struggle more and more with this. So treat them well, don't lie and there are still good physical results to be obtained and a rare gem exists. Sadly understand your little head will do most of the thinking so you will indeed fuck up the chance with a rare gem, we from the west have been conditioned for this unfortunately.
So don't ever expect a return on your money and every dollar you send make it worse over there.
I respect prostitutes they actually earn their money because they have to actually do something real and of value. But some person asking for money that does not actually have to feel your cock is a con artist. The first time they get money for nothing is very addictive. They tell allllll of their friends and its not about your great qualities or handsome face its about your stupidity.
Stop sending cash.
Make them actually earn it when you are there! Cash senders are fucking up the women in the Philippines and this is my happy place.
PP.
Stop sending cash.Agree. Let them work for the money at least a little bit. Even if it's for 5 or 8 minutes only, hehe.
Stop feeling guilty that you worked hard your whole life to earn what you have you earned it.
Hear, hear.
Agree. Let them work for the money at least a little bit. Even if it's for 5 or 8 minutes only, hehe.I thought 3 min max was the norm LOL.
Mr Enternational
12-17-20, 22:07
Stop feeling guilty that you worked hard your whole life to earn what you have you earned it.I wish I knew how these people were getting money so that I could get some too. Mine is not as easy to come by for me to be giving it out like that.
Some chick in Dominican Republic just tried to run a sob story on me that she is worried about not being able to go to school next semester because she does not have the money. I told her that I understood her pain. I had to stop going for 6 years when I didn't have the money. Hard times are a part of life and I am not trying to be anyone's savior. Shit, I didn't get one. I got it out the mud. I was eating hot dogs and ramen noodles everyday. Because of hard work and fortitude I am about to tear into this prime rib as I write.
GoodEnough
12-18-20, 09:49
I have now lived and worked in this country for almost 20 years and have met an enormously diverse circle of people. I have met and worked with subsistence farmers with little to no education, who struggle every day to put food on the table. I've worked with extremely intelligent and capable university professors who have earned their doctorates abroad; with engineers, with scientists, with doctors and nurses as smart and capable as any professionals I've ever known. I've worked with hugely successful business people and with those for whom operating a hot dog stand would be a challenge. I know enormously successful people here, and folks from the middle class, and those for whom life has not been kind, and throughout all of those years, and all of those experiences and acquaintances, I've yet to formulate a generalization that would accurately characterize the entire country. Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.
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Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.The worst offenders are those who have only met the underbelly of society on Burgos Street or in AC. They then generalize those experiences to the rest of the country.
FuriousGeorge
12-18-20, 12:54
Most profound quote ever in the history of this board? Possibly. Either way, I can't wait to get to Burgos, Angeles, and perhaps retire in the country. The charm lies in the details here.
I have now lived and worked in this country for almost 20 years and have met an enormously diverse circle of people. I have met and worked with subsistence farmers with little to no education, who struggle every day to put food on the table. I've worked with extremely intelligent and capable university professors who have earned their doctorates abroad; with engineers, with scientists, with doctors and nurses as smart and capable as any professionals I've ever known. I've worked with hugely successful business people and with those for whom operating a hot dog stand would be a challenge. I know enormously successful people here, and folks from the middle class, and those for whom life has not been kind, and throughout all of those years, and all of those experiences and acquaintances, I've yet to formulate a generalization that would accurately characterize the entire country. Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.
GoodEnough
12-18-20, 13:54
The worst offenders are those who have only met the underbelly of society on Burgos Street or in AC. They then generalize those experiences to the rest of the country.I agree. Generalizing about an entire set of cultures and an entire country from random encounters with bar girls doesn't offer much in the way of insight.
I have now lived and worked in this country for almost 20 years and have met an enormously diverse circle of people. I have met and worked with subsistence farmers with little to no education, who struggle every day to put food on the table. I've worked with extremely intelligent and capable university professors who have earned their doctorates abroad; with engineers, with scientists, with doctors and nurses as smart and capable as any professionals I've ever known. I've worked with hugely successful business people and with those for whom operating a hot dog stand would be a challenge. I know enormously successful people here, and folks from the middle class, and those for whom life has not been kind, and throughout all of those years, and all of those experiences and acquaintances, I've yet to formulate a generalization that would accurately characterize the entire country. Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.Excellent, GE. You have a wealth of experience there! Nevertheless, I have learned a tremendous amount of cultural insights, particularly the mind of the Pinay, from watching you-tubers especially a a lady named Filipins Pea.
I have now lived and worked in this country for almost 20 years and have met an enormously diverse circle of people.......... Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.Perhaps the most intelligent and insightful post I have read in a long time.
I'll play Devil's advocate here. Yes, there's probably a trend towards exaggerating how consistently stereotypes apply across individuals. And I agree that statements to the effect that all Filipinas want or do or think X are wrong. If anyone says something like that, go ahead and call them out. But is that actually happening? Mostly people on this board are just sharing their thoughts and theories on patterns they have noticed within the specific group of people they have met in a specific area in a specific context (e. G. , bargirls in Angeles).
I think it's perfectly fine to propose ideas like "Americans are getting fatter", "Filipinos are largely uneducated," or "women prefer people-oriented jobs" and assume your reader is intelligent enough and cooperative enough to figure out what you mean. In other words, that there seems to be a pattern. We can then discuss whether its true and how broadly it applies. But if you are misreading that as a blanket statement about all people when that wasn't explicitly stated, then maybe you're the one with the problem (I. E. , lack of cooperativeness).
Do you really want board members to stick to bland statements that won't offend anyone, and end with pointless disclaimers like "Disclaimer: the opinions above are just my opinions. I could be wrong. I didn't not mean to offend. They are based on my experience. I have not met all Filipinos nor have I travelled to all parts of the country. When I say that I think there's a pattern, I don't mean that it applies to all individuals. I recognize that people differ and there are exceptions. ".
Mr Enternational
12-18-20, 23:06
I think it's perfectly fine to propose ideas like "Americans are getting fatter", "Filipinos are largely uneducated," or "women prefer people-oriented jobs" and assume your reader is intelligent enough and cooperative enough to figure out what you mean. In other words, that there seems to be a pattern.Of course there are patterns. And to ignore them would be asinine. I have been to over 100 countries and I am not prejudice against anyone. But it is impossible to ignore the traits. Every culture has certain general characteristics. If you can not see them then maybe you have been in the midst of them too long and can not see the forest because of the trees.
You are not running off to do business in PI the same way you would do in UK. To say that the critical thinking skills in Germany are the same as those in PI would be plain dumb. What Fortune 500 company is running over to PI getting them to engineer products and processes? None.
But there are companies running over there with tasks they are good at: telling them to follow this step by step. Just make a call to one of the call centers with a problem that is not in that book. They will either transfer you to a person in your country or you will be SOL.
Since March I have been trying to get money or credit for back from Hotelsdotcom because of a covid cancelation. The call center is in PI and for 9 months everytime I call I have been told to wait 48 hours or wait 7 more days and I will be contacted. Nobody has contacted me yet. LOL.
Of course there are patterns. And to ignore them would be asinine. I have been to over 100 countries and I am not prejudice against anyone. But it is impossible to ignore the traits. Every culture has certain general characteristics. If you can not see them then maybe you have been in the midst of them too long and can not see the forest because of the trees.
We generalize all the time, and it's OK. In fact it's a survival tool. Actually the very claim that those with a certain view of the PI are biased because of "too much underbelly interaction" in AC is, in fact, a generalization. Which is fully OK, that too. Perhaps there's something to that.
I have also lived in the PI and come across a wide range of IQs. Every country has its own distribution of IQ. The thing is the Philippines' average IQ is at least 10 points lower than most Western countries and more than 15 points below Japan, Korea etc. What we see in the Philippines is largely a result of that. When you're slipping below 80, it gets harder to run even a hot dog stand well, below 70 you cannot always even serve that hot dog properly to the buyer. With an average IQ a bit below 90 (or whatever it is now) Philippines will have an ample supply of below 80/70's.
Nothing wrong with that, but it will show in how the society works. This said I think the Filipinos are masters of working with whatever resources they have. And as for street smarts, most will win out over most westerners any day of the week.
And as for street smarts, most will win out over most westerners any day of the week.Hahaha. Who is the greater fool? The uneducated pina or the "smart" westerners handing over their cash? Follow the money. 😁.
In Patts, I was chatting to a bar girl who was struggling to comprehend the rules of Connect4 but could name every vessel in the 7th Fleet and when their compliment will be in town next.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
12-19-20, 14:40
The only one which I think has a higher social ranking is Christian Filipina Dating. Any monger banged any hookers from that site yet? https://www.christianfilipina.com/.I signed up last night. Some lady just called me and said they didn't allow any fucking devils on the site.
Good morning. This is Janine from Christian Filipina. I have seen that you just join our side. And I am so excited to welcome you and help you find a love you deserve. Please give me a call back at 904-516-8924 and ask for Janine and so happy to take your call, but worried. This call will be absolutely free. Phone number is 860 sorry 904-516-8924. Thank you. You have a great day. Talk to you soon.
I signed up last night. Some lady just called me and said they didn't allow any fucking devils on the site.
.How do you know? Even real religious Christians worship Devil. You should call and see if it is hand holding only for a year and proposal, marriage and then sex (not naked) . Maybe just lifting the skirt while rest of her body is fully covered.
Let us know. Let us know your experience in fucking a real Christian (By the way Philippines is 98 percent Christian). LOL.
Engine Driver
12-19-20, 21:59
I have now lived and worked in this country for almost 20 years and have met an enormously diverse circle of people. I have met and worked with subsistence farmers with little to no education, who struggle every day to put food on the table. I've worked with extremely intelligent and capable university professors who have earned their doctorates abroad; with engineers, with scientists, with doctors and nurses as smart and capable as any professionals I've ever known. I've worked with hugely successful business people and with those for whom operating a hot dog stand would be a challenge. I know enormously successful people here, and folks from the middle class, and those for whom life has not been kind, and throughout all of those years, and all of those experiences and acquaintances, I've yet to formulate a generalization that would accurately characterize the entire country. Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.You are sounding like a frustrated social anthropologist. There are far better sites than ISG to share your thoughts with fellow learned professorial types. I would add that as you have lived in an expat bubble for 20 years, it is you who has lost touch with the outside world.
Your constant defence of Filipinas and Philippines won't work as you're pitching to the wrong audience. This site is for horny mongers to exchange information on how they can find and fuck Filipina prostitutes on the cheap. It's called increasing their root conversion factor (RCF) hahaha.
All the generalizations that mongers make are correct as they apply to the prostitute class which is poor, uneducated and with little chance of getting out of the slums. The women in this category are all scammers, liars and cheats as that's how they can survive. They are all as dumb as fuck in terms of worldly knowledge. Mongers need to enter knowing these facts so that they don't get scammed. Every monger is viewed as a fat, rich whale ready for the slaughter.
This is no different to the top end of town as the rich in the Philippines are also scammers, liars and cheats. The Philippines did not get its deserved reputation as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet due to the honest and ethical behavior of the educated, political and entrepreneurial classes. The very circle you claim to mix in also has no morals. I would say these people are worse human beings as they actually have choices in life.
Your socialist leanings and admiration of Obama are well documented on this site. Let mongers get on with fucking hookers without trying to turn us all woke.
Engine Driver
12-20-20, 07:00
I signed up last night. Some lady just called me and said they didn't allow any fucking devils on the site.
Good morning. This is Janine from Christian Filipina. I have seen that you just join our side. And I am so excited to welcome you and help you find a love you deserve. Please give me a call back at 904-516-8924 and ask for Janine and so happy to take your call, but worried. This call will be absolutely free. Phone number is 860 sorry 904-516-8924. Thank you. You have a great day. Talk to you soon.So did you call Janine back? Have you met any hot Christian chicks yet?
Nightrider1
12-20-20, 14:25
Engine driver must have woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. To me GE is one of the most knowledgeable persons we have on this board. He is articulate and has many years of boots on the ground in Phil. He is not a 24 x7 sex machine because he has found someone he wants as a long term partner so that's not a problem is it? ED is certainly entitled to his opinion,but I value GE's opinions and look forward to reading any posts he sends our way. Please no war of words. Just my opinion expressed here as well.
Engine driver must have woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. To me GE is one of the most knowledgeable persons we have on this board. He is articulate and has many years of boots on the ground in Phil. He is not a 24 x7 sex machine because he has found someone he wants as a long term partner so that's not a problem is it? ED is certainly entitled to his opinion,but I value GE's opinions and look forward to reading any posts he sends our way. Please no war of words. Just my opinion expressed here as well.GE is a long time poster in this forum. He has posted balanced reports. His knowledge of Philippines is enormous. He has willingly helped many of the mongers with good girls he knows. He is not looking for donations but just helping guys to have fun.
And as for he is not a 24/7 sex machine it is debatable LOL.
Mr Enternational
12-20-20, 16:14
So did you call Janine back? Have you met any hot Christian chicks yet?Shit man. I am looking for a way to delete the account but I do not see one. Those people have called me 4 times since the first call. 3 other times yesterday and once today. Covid must have them really desperate for money. I think it is like US $280 to talk to chicks on that site.
I had this is Venus from Christian Filipina. I'm calling you today because I see that you've already received a lot of wings and just to name a few months. It's so there's Wings coming from the lady's named JC Grace, and I would like to talk with you about ways to respond to this lady's to create wage better connection with them is this sounds interesting to you. I would love to hear back from you. Please give me a call back at 904-516-8925 or just ask for Eunice, and I will be so happy to take your call. And don't worry. This call will be absolutely free. And I'd also like to offer you a complimentary orientation session for you to become more successful with your search.
Engine driver must have woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. To me GE is one of the most knowledgeable persons we have on this board. He is articulate and has many years of boots on the ground in Phil. He is not a 24 x7 sex machine because he has found someone he wants as a long term partner so that's not a problem is it? ED is certainly entitled to his opinion,but I value GE's opinions and look forward to reading any posts he sends our way. Please no war of words. Just my opinion expressed here as well.GE said ¨ Yet the many of those writing here, who purport to have profound insights into this country of 7,000 + islands, hundreds of cultures and more than 100 languages appear to have it all figured out. The fact that what you say is largely nonsense doesn't appear to matter.¨
That is bound to touch some nerves.
Engine driver must have woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. To me GE is one of the most knowledgeable persons we have on this board. ...Personally, I get perverse enjoyment from the cat fights. They add personality and flavour to the board.
I like to think that I'm adult enough to realise that no one side is 100% wrong nor right. I've certainly disagreed with and learnt things from both GE and ED.
I'd hate to return to the recent past where anyone expressing an opinion or personality was immediately redacted or banned.
Box on! G.
That is bound to touch some nerves.Pretty rude, actually.
If you have a comfy NGO-type salaried job, maybe you can sing Cumbayah all day and go full woke. In my experience it's not a winning strategy in PH if you are spending your own money.
That word salad could be applicable to many diverse countries on earth.
You are sounding like a frustrated social anthropologist. There are far better sites than ISG to share your thoughts with fellow learned professorial types. I would add that as you have lived in an expat bubble for 20 years, it is you who has lost touch with the outside world.
This is no different to the top end of town as the rich in the Philippines are also scammers, liars and cheats. The Philippines did not get its deserved reputation as one of the most corrupt countries on the planet due to the honest and ethical behavior of the educated, political and entrepreneurial classes. The very circle you claim to mix in also has no morals. I would say these people are worse human beings as they actually have choices in life.Folks don't like to hear this, but this is the root cause of many of the ills you see not only in the PI but in other nations including our own. Those who supposedly "know better" really don't and wind up screwing those below them all the while blaming it on someone else. It just so happens that in the USA we have a large enough base of "regular folks" who can sort of make up for bad decisions made by those who supposedly knew better and we can bounce back.
The richest man in the world used to be a Mexican national who owned the phone lines into Mexico, and got his fortunes from those who fled to other countries to find work, and wire money back to Mexico. Heck he even owns one of those prepaid phone companies in the USA. This guy is a billionaire, yet you don't really see him stepping up to helping fighting the corruption down there since that would eat into his business model. Same could be said for the PI. Look at those who own the export agencies for sending foreign workers overseas as well as the remittance companies and see where they fall on the socio-economic ladder, and what they have been doing to foster more economic growth. Heck Imelda had closets full of shoes that are bigger than some of the places people live whom she supposedly is looking out for. Clean up the corruption at the top, maybe it will trickle down and some of the more regular folks would get a chance, but I seriously doubt it. The PI is what it is, and the women (and men) will find a way to separate a fool and his money any time. That being said, it is up to the "fool" to determine how much he is willing to give up, instead of trying to change a society.
Chocha Monger
12-21-20, 23:17
Pretty rude, actually.
If you have a comfy NGO-type salaried job, maybe you can sing Cumbayah all day and go full woke. In my experience it's not a winning strategy in PH if you are spending your own money.
That word salad could be applicable to many diverse countries on earth.These NGO-types get unlimited BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS just for handing out donated food packets and clean water to desperate native women. Attractive 18 to 26 years-old native women are regularly referred to the "extra food tent."
Engine Driver
12-22-20, 00:12
These NGO-types get unlimited BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS just for handing out donated food packets and clean water to desperate native women. Attractive 18 to 26 years-old native women are regularly referred to the "extra food tent."Isn't it rather ironic that a couple of NGO do-gooder types on cushy salaries come onto a prostitution site and tell mongers on the Philippines thread what they can and can't do? All while fucking the very girls they have been sent to save and preaching about the virtues of socialism. What would their governments and generous donors who pay their salaries think?
Please send me the invite to the canonization of GE. I shall book my tickets to Rome now.
These NGO-types get unlimited BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBJCIMWS just for handing out donated food packets and clean water to desperate native women. Attractive 18 to 26 years-old native women are regularly referred to the "extra food tent."It's easy to be holier when the holes come for free.
The baddest SUV in the brothel parking lot is often paid for by the tax payers and squishy donors in the West.
Soapy Smith
12-22-20, 07:54
CM draws once again on his vast social anthropological field experience to report on the truths that NGO workers don't want you to know about.
But NGOs can be a lot more fun than he suggests. There were interesting stories coming out of the UK a few years ago about the Middle Eastern and North African refugees in tent camps at the French end of the Chunnel. Seems that adventurous British women were traveling to the Calais camps under the guise of volunteering for NGOs, but were actually there to exercise their jungle fever with men and boys (including those in their tender teen years) from the Middle East and North Africa. Why rain on a parade like that?
https://www.iol.co.za/travel/world/british-women-go-to-calais-jungle-for-sex-2071956
It's also true that Oxfam had a huge scandal from its workers sexually exploiting the locals amidst the onslaught of NGOs that took over Haiti following the 2010 earthquake. Oxfam was founded by Oxford Quakers to relieve famine in Greece during World War II. So maybe the problem isn't the NGOs, it's those damn Brits.
CM draws once again on his vast social anthropological field experience to report on the truths that NGO workers don't want you to know about.
But NGOs can be a lot more fun than he suggests. There were interesting stories coming out of the UK a few years ago about the Middle Eastern and North African refugees in tent camps at the French end of the Chunnel. Seems that adventurous British women were traveling to the Calais camps under the guise of volunteering for NGOs, but were actually there to exercise their jungle fever with men and boys (including those in their tender teen years) from the Middle East and North Africa. Why rain on a parade like that?
https://www.iol.co.za/travel/world/british-women-go-to-calais-jungle-for-sex-2071956
It's also true that Oxfam had a huge scandal from its workers sexually exploiting the locals amidst the onslaught of NGOs that took over Haiti following the 2010 earthquake. Oxfam was founded by Oxford Quakers to relieve famine in Greece during World War II. So maybe the problem isn't the NGOs, it's those damn Brits.How did this discussion evolve into a talk about NGOs? They're fucking hotter girls for free than what mongers are paying for. Is that something you guys like to delve into?
Roll Aides
12-24-20, 04:07
How did this discussion evolve into a talk about NGOs? They're fucking hotter girls for free than what mongers are paying for.Where do I sign up?
How did this discussion evolve into a talk about NGOs? They're fucking hotter girls for free than what mongers are paying for. Is that something you guys like to delve into?The West have been helping out LBFMs for decades.
Previously they were saved from the rampaging Communists and given some good 'ol GI dick to sucky fucky.
Now they are being lifted out of starvation and poverty with Euro stick included. If they are lucky the girls might get to ride in a big new Toyota Landcruiser or visit a $5000/ mo condo.
I bet MSF are making the use of CoVid and the vaccine rollout to ensure hot 19 yos make it to the front of the queue.
Enjoy. G.
Where do I sign up?The pay sucks but the benefits are great. LOL.
The pay sucks but the benefits are great. LOL.Not always. My first job that reliably earned well into the 6 figures was with the UN.
And it was tax free at the time too.
How are Indians treated in PH (by local girls)?
Is it same like TH?
Mr Enternational
01-11-21, 19:31
How are Indians treated in PH (by local girls)?
Is it same like TH?Depends on the guy and the girl. A lot of Indian guys are sending those chicks big money.
How are Indians treated in PH (by local girls)?
Is it same like TH?As a 'class' of monger, Indians do seem to get branded rather harshly. I know some girls will not see Indian nationals.
Here in Australia, local working girls will often include a statement "No Indians" on their advert.
From my limited experience in Bangalore, the local working girl scene works entirely different to the way Ph and western countries work.
Engine Driver
01-11-21, 23:32
How are Indians treated in PH (by local girls)?
Is it same like TH?In AC and Cebu, the girls certainly know of the poor reputation of Indians. Always bargaining or rude and abusive behavior. In the provinces, the girls would never have met an Indian, so their reputations would not have preceded them.
Nice Guy 99
01-12-21, 19:09
In AC and Cebu, the girls certainly know of the poor reputation of Indians. I have a good WG friend in Cebu City. She met with an older Indian guy in Lapu Lapu a few months ago. Before the meeting he specified that he wanted bareback anal. She doubled the price and he agreed. She brought lube and used it liberally but his cock was so fat that it tore her rectum. Poor girl left the room bleeding and took about a month to fully recover. She has sworn off Indians no matter what the money.
Engine Driver
01-12-21, 20:27
I have a good WG friend in Cebu City. She met with an older Indian guy in Lapu Lapu a few months ago. Before the meeting he specified that he wanted bareback anal. She doubled the price and he agreed. She brought lube and used it liberally but his cock was so fat that it tore her rectum. Poor girl left the room bleeding and took about a month to fully recover. She has sworn off Indians no matter what the money.A torn rectum is an occupational hazard for a hooker who provides BBFSCIA. Can't say I blame the client. She agreed to his terms.
SinfullyKorean
01-12-21, 20:29
I have a good WG friend in Cebu City. She met with an older Indian guy in Lapu Lapu a few months ago. Before the meeting he specified that he wanted bareback anal. She doubled the price and he agreed. She brought lube and used it liberally but his cock was so fat that it tore her rectum. Poor girl left the room bleeding and took about a month to fully recover. She has sworn off Indians no matter what the money.Ouch. Sounds like it wasn't a nationality issue. She probably should've just said no anal when it hurt so bad and reduce back to original price or just decline altogether. Poor girl.
I have a good WG friend in Cebu City. She met with an older Indian guy in Lapu Lapu a few months ago. Before the meeting he specified that he wanted bareback anal. She doubled the price and he agreed. She brought lube and used it liberally but his cock was so fat that it tore her rectum. Poor girl left the room bleeding and took about a month to fully recover. She has sworn off Indians no matter what the money.She was lucky. At least there were not 20+ other Indian / Pakistani guys in the room waiting for their turn.
Pinays are fairly naive in sex. My advice, unfortunately, was for them to avoid south Asians. Odds are higher something will go wrong or will get treated badly or without care. I just don't like the groups constant talking and upsell. It is funny when you help pinays pick up guys or communicate with their BF.
Wicked Roger
01-14-21, 13:32
She was lucky. At least there were not 20+ other Indian / Pakistani guys in the room waiting for their turn.
Pinays are fairly naive in sex. My advice, unfortunately, was for them to avoid south Asians. Odds are higher something will go wrong or will get treated badly or without care. I just don't like the groups constant talking and upsell. It is funny when you help pinays pick up guys or communicate with their BF.This has sadly happened too many times and even if you warn them they will still go. Some get wise but I know 4 pinays this happened to. And as NG will know the Arabs are also good at that trick (a few stores from Dubai also).
Chocha Monger
01-15-21, 00:06
A torn rectum is an occupational hazard for a hooker who provides BBFSCIA. Can't say I blame the client. She agreed to his terms.Who paid the medical expenses incurred to have her torn rectum stitched up so she could shit normally again? Was she compensated for loss of income during her convalescence? If so, who provided this compensation? The Indian client may have been negligent in his failure to warn the hooker that he had a "fat cock" during negotiation of the terms of anal intercourse. If he rammed her tight asshole with wild abandon and intent to cause emotional distress, there are grounds for an intentional tort. The Indian client's tortious acts and his cock were the proximate cause of the Pinay hooker's ripped asshole. She has good grounds for suing the tortfeasor for the injuries and damages suffered.
Engine Driver
01-15-21, 22:15
Who paid the medical expenses incurred to have her torn rectum stitched up so she could shit normally again? Was she compensated for loss of income during her convalescence? If so, who provided this compensation? The Indian client may have been negligent in his failure to warn the hooker that he had a "fat cock" during negotiation of the terms of anal intercourse. If he rammed her tight asshole with wild abandon and intent to cause emotional distress, there are grounds for an intentional tort. The Indian client's tortious acts and his cock were the proximate cause of the Pinay hooker's ripped asshole. She has good grounds for suing the tortfeasor for the injuries and damages suffered.Dear Chocha Monger Esq, thank you for your learned opinion. We are grateful. Unfortunately, as prostitution is an illegal act in the Philippines, there is no legal remedy in this case.
Who paid the medical expenses incurred to have her torn rectum stitched up so she could shit normally again? I've never ripped a hookers arsehole into mince meat but I have inadvertantly hospitalized a couple, mostly through alcohol poisoning of 75 lb newbies. I never saw any claims or threats. Strangely, those that I did see again were quite happy I returned. Some even apologised for disturbing my night.
Go figure. 🤔.
G.
Dear Chocha Monger Esq, thank you for your learned opinion. We are grateful. Unfortunately, as prostitution is an illegal act in the Philippines, there is no legal remedy in this case.Dear Engine Driver Esq. Thank you for your unlearned opinion. The fact that prostitution is illegal in the Phillipines is irrelevant. Legal remedies do exist. Armchair lawyers always amuse me.
Engine Driver
01-16-21, 08:21
Dear Engine Driver Esq. Thank you for your unlearned opinion. The fact that prostitution is illegal in the Phillipines is irrelevant. Legal remedies do exist. Armchair lawyers always amuse me.Hahahaha. Dear Sir, it's called friendly banter. Don't take everything so seriously. I'm sure Chocha will be back with his acerbic wit.
This has sadly happened too many times and even if you warn them they will still go. Some get wise but I know 4 pinays this happened to. And as NG will know the Arabs are also good at that trick (a few stores from Dubai also).I did not think it was SOP until it started appearing in movies and I started talking to more girls over the years.
I am slow to catch on. I heard of abduction, beating, none payment and other stuff with Indians and Pakisrtanis. It is understandable if you visit their countries and learn and hear more.
Arabs and Africans are a wide group but I have heard some stories too. I know when some are out of country, their behavior do no change.
Before an anal tear, a girl would be in excruciating pain and most likely screaming and resisting. I fail to see how one could continue.
As for non payment as in "eat and run" MO, I have seen that with US military personnel. Our military have done worse and have gotten away with in several conflicts over the decades. Some are haunted and openly admit it. Even when convicted in recent conflicts, they might get presidential pardons. What is sad is that it is usually the white dudes doing the eat and run at restaurants and with prostitutes. In the cases I saw, police were never called. In one case, it would change to rpea if police were involved.
I am currently talking to one Filipina who is offered financial support from an Indian guy in exchange for sex. It is interesting because she is considering it because her friend is going out with one. I know the Japanese and Koreans are much more generous. With nice accommodations included.
Engine Driver
01-17-21, 05:26
I am slow to catch on. I heard of abduction, beating, none payment and other stuff with Indians and Pakisrtanis. It is understandable if you visit their countries and learn and hear more.
Arabs and Africans are a wide group but I have heard some stories too. I know when some are out of country, their behavior do no change.All of those countries (and Japan and Korea) are male dominated and women have limited rights. Prostitutes are considered sub-human in those countries, they have no social status, so are fair game for abuse. The few cases of Pinay and Thai hookers being surprised in the room by six men looking for group action are blown out of proportion. The vast majority of mongers don't behave like that. The isolated cases take a life of their own over time. Most girls on the dating sites tell me that it's the old white blokes who are the problem, constantly sending them unsolicited dick pics and harassing them for sex in the opening line.
Before an anal tear, a girl would be in excruciating pain and most likely screaming and resisting. I fail to see how one could continue.We only have a hooker's word for what happened. They have been known to embellish their stories and generally don't make credible witnesses.
I know the Japanese and Koreans are much more generous. With nice accommodations included.Not necessarily. In all my time in AC over the years, I found the Koreans were no better or no worse payers than anyone else. It's a myth to say that the Koreans pay the most. Their salaries are a lot less than in the West and most are just normal salary men sticking to their limited budgets. Girls will tell you what you want to hear. In Puerto Galera, the vast majority of Koreans were young kids in the 18-25 age group on their party tours. These kids were not exactly rich. The most generous mongers are westerners in the 40-60 year age group and they adopt the father figure role with the girls.
As Mr E mentioned recently, and in discussion with various girls, and having seen them in action, the Indians don't hesitate to spend big. I have seen them party in Makati like you would not believe. The girls with them were not exactly complaining. We only hear of the lower end Indians sharing one beer amongst four people in Pattaya, but know nothing of the high end. During this pandemic, many are sending large amounts of money to Pinay and Thai girls, with no prospect of any return.
Chocha Monger
01-17-21, 23:12
All of those countries (and Japan and Korea) are male dominated and women have limited rights. Prostitutes are considered sub-human in those countries, they have no social status, so are fair game for abuse. The few cases of Pinay and Thai hookers being surprised in the room by six men looking for group action are blown out of proportion. The vast majority of mongers don't behave like that. The isolated cases take a life of their own over time. Most girls on the dating sites tell me that it's the old white blokes who are the problem, constantly sending them unsolicited dick pics and harassing them for sex in the opening line.
We only have a hooker's word for what happened. They have been known to embellish their stories and generally don't make credible witnesses.
Not necessarily. In all my time in AC over the years, I found the Koreans were no better or no worse payers than anyone else. It's a myth to say that the Koreans pay the most. Their salaries are a lot less than in the West and most are just normal salary men sticking to their limited budgets. Girls will tell you what you want to hear. In Puerto Galera, the vast majority of Koreans were young kids in the 18-25 age group on their party tours. These kids were not exactly rich. The most generous mongers are westerners in the 40-60 year age group and they adopt the father figure role with the girls.
As Mr E mentioned recently, and in discussion with various girls, and having seen them in action, the Indians don't hesitate to spend big. I have seen them party in Makati like you would not believe. The girls with them were not exactly complaining. We only hear of the lower end Indians sharing one beer amongst four people in Pattaya, but know nothing of the high end. During this pandemic, many are sending large amounts of money to Pinay and Thai girls, with no prospect of any return.As a rule, LBFMs will always tell a prospective client that the other monger paid much more. They do this in the hopes of sparking a bidding war and increasing their profits. Hence, they will claim that the other monger sends them P50,000 monthly for chitchat and no roots. Do not fall for the scam. Stick to a fair offer to be paid only after BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBBJCIMWS.
All of those countries (and Japan and Korea) are male dominated and women have limited rights. Prostitutes are considered sub-human in those countries, they have no social status, so are fair game for abuse. The few cases of Pinay and Thai hookers being surprised in the room by six men looking for group action are blown out of proportion. The vast majority of mongers don't behave like that. The isolated cases take a life of their own over time. Most girls on the dating sites tell me that it's the old white blokes who are the problem, constantly sending them unsolicited dick pics and harassing them for sex in the opening line.
We only have a hooker's word for what happened. They have been known to embellish their stories and generally don't make credible witnesses.
Not necessarily. In all my time in AC over the years, I found the Koreans were no better or no worse payers than anyone else. It's a myth to say that the Koreans pay the most. Their salaries are a lot less than in the West and most are just normal salary men sticking to their limited budgets. Girls will tell you what you want to hear. In Puerto Galera, the vast majority of Koreans were young kids in the 18-25 age group on their party tours. These kids were not exactly rich. The most generous mongers are westerners in the 40-60 year age group and they adopt the father figure role with the girls..Male dominated societies are a lot worse elsewhere. Maybe I could be part of the problem. But I believe I treat women better than most.
As for abduction and surprised by a group of 6 plus men, I just see more from Indian and Pakistani. Even though they are a small percentage of the population at the locations. Because of legal issues, many go unreported. Like the situations in their country. The Indian girl who got raped on a bus and the young girls found dumped in the trash. Google is your friend if you want to learn more.
As for Japanese and Korean, based on what I see, they setup the planpen very generously. I am jealous because I have seen or heard some similar setups around the world.
As for your South Asian big spenders, I know some. Best to avoid them, for the bar girls too. I am not sure their words or a hookers word are more believable.
PedroMorales
01-18-21, 17:08
As a rule, LBFMs will always tell a prospective client that the other monger paid much more. They do this in the hopes of sparking a bidding war and increasing their profits. Hence, they will claim that the other monger sends them P50,000 monthly for chitchat and no roots. Do not fall for the scam. Stick to a fair offer to be paid only after BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA, and BBBBJCIMWS.Coca Cola is more expensive in the USA than in India. What is a fair price? Do we need a shot caller? Fair price to cum in their faces or else?
Here in civilised land. I can hire a half dead hooker for an hour or a tradesman for a day. One does a good job; the other send her money home to Trike man.
Hello,
I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.
I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?
This is my first time to the Philippines and I want to make the most out of my time in the country.
Any travel agent recommendations would also be helpful.
Hopefully the travel restrictions will be lifted by March so I can travel.
Thank you in advance for any assistance to this newbie.
Hello,
I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.
I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?
This is my first time to the Philippines and I want to make the most out of my time in the country.
Any travel agent recommendations would also be helpful.
Hopefully the travel restrictions will be lifted by March so I can travel.
Thank you in advance for any assistance to this newbie.Is this a real romantic meeting hoping for a long term GF/Wife relationship?
Or just for sex?
Just what are your intentions here?
Information about you. Age? Physical shape? Income level?
Need these answered first before anyone can give you any valid advice.
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.
I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?
The girls are very skilled at pretending to be good girls for a newbie and you may find it difficult to recognize the signs. In cases like these I always recommend getting others more familiar to make the assessment. Local girls and guys will know within seconds of meeting her where she stands in the hierarchy:
Does she gravitate naturally and speak freely with "normal girls" or are all her friends hookers with western boyfriends. Who does she speak to and who will talk to her during your stay? Is she comfortable sitting inside a bar? Does she instinctively know where the CR (restroom) is, how to order food and a drink? Can she recommend nice restaurants or how to get back to the hotel? Is she familiar with western menus? Does she know where all the ATMs are and how Western Union transfers work?
Frankly, her suggesting Angeles as a meeting point isn't a good sign. It's an absolute shit hole that westerners only go to to get drunk and fuck hookers. No decent pina would be caught dead in the red light areas (yes there are civilian areas of town too but very few western facilities there).
The ABC is an over the top experience based hotel. Again, designed for mongers to entertain whorres not Fred to meet Sally. Great place if you are looking for in room stripper poles and 5 person jacuzzis. Watch how the girl reacts: hookers have a laugh and love it, a good girl will be appalled.
Good luck. G.
Hello,
I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.
I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?
This is my first time to the Philippines and I want to make the most out of my time in the country.
Any travel agent recommendations would also be helpful.
Hopefully the travel restrictions will be lifted by March so I can travel.
Thank you in advance for any assistance to this newbie.I don't mean to be a buzz kill here, but a genuinely good / innocent girl is absolutely not going to meet & stay with a foreigner during their first meeting at his hotel, especially in AC. Although I've never been to AC before, the reputation is well known most everyone.
The genuinely good Pinays that 99% of us foreigners never meet are actually quite conservative and wouldn't be caught dead entering a hotel with a foreign man who is not her husband, ESPECIALLY IN AC. She would most likely insist that you go to her hometown and meet the family. It's only when they migrate to the major cities that they become more liberal.
Maybe that doesn't apply in 100% of all cases, but that's been my overall experience in PI.
Just be careful and think with your big head first. Don't blindly trust that everything she says is true, and watch her actions and how she reacts to other people.
GoodEnough
01-19-21, 05:38
Hello,
I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.
I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?
This is my first time to the Philippines and I want to make the most out of my time in the country.
Any travel agent recommendations would also be helpful.
Hopefully the travel restrictions will be lifted by March so I can travel.
Thank you in advance for any assistance to this newbie.Goferring's advice is sound, and I suggest you follow it. ABC is, as one respondent commented, an over-the-top pleasure palace designed for guys who want to spend time playing with hookers in Angeles, and its rooms and facilities are designed for this sole purpose. No "good" girl would want to be caught dead there, though I can tell you from extensive personal experience that hookers love the place. As also stated by others, the fact that your girl suggested Angeles as a meeting place should likely be construed as a red flag. The reputation of the place is well known throughout the Philippines and unless she's been spending her formative years in a convent, there's no possibility she would be unaware of this fact. I'the also caution you that two weeks is a grossly insufficient amount of time to decide on whether you've met a girl you want to bring back to the US. No one with zero in-country experience and who has never before met a girl should be making this kind of decision in so short a time. This is not Disneyland, she's not Snow White, and you are not her Prince, so disabuse yourself of fairytale fantasies. I know that sounds harsh, but in my almost two decades here I have watched more guys than I can count willingly dive headfirst into situations that did not turn out well.
If you must meet in Angeles, and want to avoid the more tawdry areas of town (and people), you might want to consider booking somewhere in Clark, which is at least somewhat removed from hooker central and may be more prone to attract "normal" people.
I don't mean to disparage Angeles. It's a great playground and I've enjoyed countless happy days there, most of them at the ABC Hotel. But Angeles is what it is and not, in my opinion a place to pursue a "serious" relationship.
GE.
Hello,
I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.
I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?
This is my first time to the Philippines and I want to make the most out of my time in the country.
Any travel agent recommendations would also be helpful.
Hopefully the travel restrictions will be lifted by March so I can travel.
Thank you in advance for any assistance to this newbie.You my friend, are what in known among the working women in AC as a "Cherry Boy. " Take the advice of others, if you go there don't get caught up in the hype. She may be a nice girl but the odds are against you in that. Not saying she is a bad person per se, but more than likely you are not going to be the first person she does this to.
If I were you, I would work it this way. Tell her you will be there on the 15th, and actually plan to arrive on the 13th. Just do a walk around of the area and see if you see her out and about. Also, when you get there don't tell her and just contact her a little off the time arraigned and see if she can meet you.
Better yet, just spend your time in Manila the first time, to get you in the know on what it's like in the PI and then maybe venture down to AC later.
PedroMorales
01-19-21, 10:00
Hello,
I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well..Come to your Pinay sirens. Follow your dick. You need to be fked over. That is why you are here. You will be a senior member here in ten years and you see an dispense advice. You need to be led around, like a goat at Ramadan, and feel the steel blades slice into you. You are an extra Jesus, here to feed the multitude with your flesh and blood. You might enjoy the Crucifixion at San Fernando, if your wallet holds out that long.
If I send you my details, can you wire me 10,000 pesos in real money? I ask as if everyone else is going to get a piece of you, so should I.
Engine Driver
01-19-21, 10:01
Hello,
I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.
I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?.In case you've been living in a cave for the past 13 months, we are in the middle of a pandemic, so how exactly are you going to get to the Philippines by March? Without going into the poor character of Filipinas and their families which others have discussed in detail, let me give you a few other points to think about.
1. If super rich countries like the US and the UK can't get the Wuhan virus under control, what chance does the Philippines, a dirt poor country have? Do you think they can vaccinate millions of people by March so that you can enter the country?
2. The borders are closed for tourists. Unless you have a diplomatic passport or own a business in the Philippines, mongers are not being welcomed.
3. Does your girlfriend have a passport? If not, there are a number of important documents which she must gather before applying. Poor Filipinas have a lot of trouble collecting the necessary paperwork. If she already has a passport, then more alarm bells should be ringing.
4. Does your girlfriend have a visa to the US? I assume she will be travelling on a tourist visa. Is the US Embassy in Manila currently processing tourist visas for girlfriends of mongers? Don't think they won't know your or her intentions.
5. Are you prepared to take all financial liability for your girl while she is in the US?
In my rich country, we only have 13 virus cases today, yet our Secretary of the Health Department (Federal) says no one will be travelling overseas until 2022. I think you should stick to cam shows with your girl and one-handed typing for the time being.
Hello,
I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.
I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?
This is my first time to the Philippines and I want to make the most out of my time in the country.
Any travel agent recommendations would also be helpful.
Hopefully the travel restrictions will be lifted by March so I can travel.
Thank you in advance for any assistance to this newbie.I just assume you are having a dig at the forum members.
Hello,
I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.
I was thinking of staying at the ABC hotel in Angeles City. Any suggestions about where else to stay and information on Angeles City?
This is my first time to the Philippines and I want to make the most out of my time in the country.
Any travel agent recommendations would also be helpful.
Hopefully the travel restrictions will be lifted by March so I can travel.
Thank you in advance for any assistance to this newbie.I am sure the girl known about Angeles city and it's reputation. Definitely if she lives an hour and half bus ride. Do not know why she would want to meet you there rather than Manila.
Do not get all excited about bringing her to America the girl you still have not met. You might have chatted on cam but in person girls look different. Go slow and do not promise anything. I would suggest get to know her and make couple of more trips before you decide.
Goferring's advice is sound, and I suggest you follow it. ABC is, as one respondent commented, an over-the-top pleasure palace designed for guys who want to spend time playing with hookers in Angeles, and its rooms and facilities are designed for this sole purpose. No "good" girl would want to be caught dead there, though I can tell you from extensive personal experience that hookers love the place. As also stated by others, the fact that your girl suggested Angeles as a meeting place should likely be construed as a red flag. The reputation of the place is well known throughout the Philippines and unless she's been spending her formative years in a convent, there's no possibility she would be unaware of this fact. I'the also caution you that two weeks is a grossly insufficient amount of time to decide on whether you've met a girl you want to bring back to the US. No one with zero in-country experience and who has never before met a girl should be making this kind of decision in so short a time. This is not Disneyland, she's not Snow White, and you are not her Prince, so disabuse yourself of fairytale fantasies. I know that sounds harsh, but in my almost two decades here I have watched more guys than I can count willingly dive headfirst into situations that did not turn out well.
If you must meet in Angeles, and want to avoid the more tawdry areas of town (and people), you might want to consider booking somewhere in Clark, which is at least somewhat removed from hooker central and may be more prone to attract "normal" people.
I don't mean to disparage Angeles. It's a great playground and I've enjoyed countless happy days there, most of them at the ABC Hotel. But Angeles is what it is and not, in my opinion a place to pursue a "serious" relationship.
GE.Concur. I did one of the lovely girls that worked there some years ago. A real sexy fun one that represented the place well. Nice swimming pool and overall ambience.
Mr Enternational
01-19-21, 16:33
I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time? Since we will be meeting at a very nice hotel, which I choose, I believe that it is safer than going to where she lives.My experiences and thoughts are much different than everybody elses. I have met several chicks in AC that are not hookers. And they came to the room. And we fucked. And all that other stuff that some seem to think good girls are not going to do. I mean the litmus test is easy. Chick expects money from you, then to me she is not a normal chick.
A few months back I was reading in a facebook group a guy in Pattaya asking how much he should give his girlfriend every month to stay with him. There were guys chiming in that they give their wife x amount or they give their girlfriend x amount. Then there were the smart guys that said if you have to give her money then she is not your fucking girlfriend. Eventually the guy reported back saying he had told her that he would give her like $300 per month or whatever and the chick told him to go fuck himself because that was not enough money. Easy test, was it not? No idea what would make this guy think a chick he was paying was his girlfriend.
A few years ago I reported on a normal chick in AC that came to the hotel, bought me dinner, fucked me well, and stayed until the next morning. Two years ago that same chick came to Pattaya on vacation with her own money and I picked her up from her hotel and took her sightseeeing.
I also find it funny that guys would suggest staying in a different area as if somehow if the chicks realize hookers exist on this planet then that will extinguish their interest in you. Hell, they will probably become even more interested in you. There is no reason to hide and act blind to what is going on in the city. Jump right into it. I have been with regular chicks that have wanted me to take them inside of hooker bars and discos to see what it is like. You are in the car with your girl and you drive past some hookers, you fucking point them out. You do not act like they are invisible.
People can coexist no matter their ocupation. I was in the Dominican Republic last month with a Venezuelan girlfriend (we did not go together; it was coincidence we were there at the same time) of mine that had never been there. We were in the area where all the hookers are. They were walking back and forth peacocking while we were drinking at a bar. She mentioned how pretty the Dominican chicks' hair is. I told her it was not their real hair. She swore it was so I stopped a random hooker that was walking by and asked how much she paid for her hair. She said $200. I said see, told ya. Then they went on to have a conversation and the hooker told her how most Dominicans with hair like that it is not their real hair. So who the hell cares if their are hookers around. Nobody! Stop being so damn ashamed for no reason.
The only red flag that I see is her suggesting you meet in another city whether it be AC or anywhere else. In my experience chicks want you to show up at their front door. They never offer to meet you in another city no matter how deep into the sticks they live. I would say that is usually done at the suggestion of the foreigner. Maybe some guys that ship chicks to the city they are in can chime in on this.
The only circumstances that you should invite that lady to your house in the USA are if she is paying her own way and she is able to get her own visa. Other than that, you leave the rides at the amusement park.
ViperF33.
Don't let them pxss on your parade.
Angeles City is much bigger than the bars. Foreigners only know of the bargirl areas. Filipinos know of the Filipino areas. ABC Hotel would send the wrong message for you. I suggest the Park Inn Radisson Clark Hotel for you. About US $100 a night. It is next to SM Clark Mall. Book it for a couple of nights to see if it works out for you. If it does then stay longer or you can move to other hotels. SM Mall has plenty of dining options and stores to walk around. You should get a good feel for her and decide what to do.
While in AC have her suggest things to do there. You will get an idea if she has been there or not.
Byw, Park Inn is close to the Dau bus station where she would arrive at. Short trike ride to the hotel.
Concur. I did one of the lovely girls that worked there some years ago. A real sexy fun one that represented the place well. Nice swimming pool and overall ambience.A slight side story:
A buddy and I were sitting in the old pool bar area pre Tower 2 or what ever the new block is called. We struck up a conversation with a liquor importer. A bit older but still had her looks and very smart. We asked about the waitresses working at the bar. She said those jobs were very sought after and the prettiest girls competed for them as they were exposed to many love struck Romeos and a sure ticket to a marriage and Visa. Very pretty girls at the time.
Enjoy. G.
Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends Facebook profiles to verify the information. The posts she has on Facebook were made well before I started talking to her. The social media information I see lead me to believe that she most likely is a legitimate person who is looking for a long term relationship and wants to be a school teacher in the US.
I understand the concerns about Angeles City. However, she actually told me we could meet in Clark and did not say Angeles City. I suggested the ABC hotel after looking on websites. The reason she did not want to meet in Manila initially is because she wants to be closer to her home in the event things do not work out. She told me that until I meet her family she could only stay with me for a couple of days. In fact she wants to bring her sister with her the first time we meet. She and her sister are three years apart and are very close.
I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day. She does not ask for money and she calls and video chats with me several times each day.
Since I want to go to the Philippines to visit anyway I really don't have much to lose. I just want to make sure I won't be harmed and that is why I want to meet her in a hotel that I book.
Based on the responses received I will not book the ABC Hotel and will look into hotels others have suggested. I have no problem paying $200 per night if the hotel is nice and safe.
I understand that 14 days is not enough to take a girl back to the US. However, I think it is enough time to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.
Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the help!
PedroMorales
01-20-21, 00:36
She said those jobs were very sought after and the prettiest girls competed for them as they were exposed to many love struck Romeos and a sure ticket to a marriage and Visa..You missed your chance. You could be a happily married monger and be supporting a trike driver as well.
SankarShetty
01-20-21, 01:49
Come to your Pinay sirens. Follow your dick. You need to be fked over. That is why you are here. You will be a senior member here in ten years and you see an dispense advice. You need to be led around, like a goat at Ramadan, and feel the steel blades slice into you. You are an extra Jesus, here to feed the multitude with your flesh and blood. You might enjoy the Crucifixion at San Fernando, if your wallet holds out that long.
If I send you my details, can you wire me 10,000 pesos in real money? I ask as if everyone else is going to get a piece of you, so should I.This is one of the most hilarious replies I have seen in a long time. ROFL.
Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends Facebook profiles to verify the information. The posts she has on Facebook were made well before I started talking to her. The social media information I see lead me to believe that she most likely is a legitimate person who is looking for a long term relationship and wants to be a school teacher in the US.
I understand the concerns about Angeles City. However, she actually told me we could meet in Clark and did not say Angeles City. I suggested the ABC hotel after looking on websites. The reason she did not want to meet in Manila initially is because she wants to be closer to her home in the event things do not work out. She told me that until I meet her family she could only stay with me for a couple of days. In fact she wants to bring her sister with her the first time we meet. She and her sister are three years apart and are very close.
I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day. She does not ask for money and she calls and video chats with me several times each day.
Since I want to go to the Philippines to visit anyway I really don't have much to lose. I just want to make sure I won't be harmed and that is why I want to meet her in a hotel that I book.
Based on the responses received I will not book the ABC Hotel and will look into hotels others have suggested. I have no problem paying $200 per night if the hotel is nice and safe.
I understand that 14 days is not enough to take a girl back to the US. However, I think it is enough time to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.
Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the help!Don't listen at all to the jaded mongers here. Get a decent hotel and conduct your business as planned. Meet the sister and family and decide for yourself. You really don't need any advice from this forum. This is cheap sex forum. Not conducive for LTR or loving marriages!
If things go well then go to Manila. There are decent hotels and areas in your price range.
Mr Enternational
01-20-21, 04:23
I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day.What, did you pay for her a 5-year subscription? My internet is only 30 cents per day in PI. Live and learn.
You missed your chance. You could be a happily married monger and be supporting a trike driver as well.Missed my chace with whom? ID put the importer ahead of the waitresses: she could probably afford to support me and a couple of trike drivers at the same time. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends ......................... to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.
Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the help!Follow your heart. But listen to the brain from time to time as well. In the end you are the one talking to her and only you can determine what the feeling is.
All I can say is good luck and I hope it works out well!
CM.
Edit also as a counterweight to the all girls are out there to pluck you posts:
So I went to Tanzania in December for work. And had an African girl in Africa for the first time. A true pearl. We have continued whatsapping since then as I had a crust on her from the moment we went from our dinner to my room.
In the beginning she said I like you and want to see you again but you are to old for a relationship with me. She is very early 20s and I am mid 40s only one year younger than her father. But she wanted to continue talking because she felt I had treated her like a gentleman and respected her. She only goes with men irregularly when her shop is doing badly. She told me about how the men she goes with usually look down on her. Because she is African and they consider her cheap meat. The usual remarks she gets is that she is to black to be considered more than a fuck doll. And she hates that. She said the older the men and the richer the more they treat you like trash.
After about 10 days her internet was finished and I decided to spontaneously send her 8 euro to her M-pesa account. She upped internet, called me back and was truly pissed. She said: "why do men always think we need an ATM .... I am talking to you because I like you and want to know you better not because I want your money." Took me a day or so to make up on that. I am used to girls hitting me up for money from day one. Never ever had this reaction.
So around Christmas she told me that I was the most friendly man she ever talked with. Someone whom doesn't talk about sex. Doesn't ask for pussy photos. And doesn't send dick pics (she blocks all of those men and men that ask her to marry them, she has shown me all the requests she gets for that). I talk with her about normal life btw. What her dreams are and what she wants ..... very normal things ...... but according to her no man ever wants to talk with her about that (African, Arab or Muzungu). Also since Christmas we have been whatsapp calling every day and video calling sometimes as well.
At new years day she told me that she had changed her mind. She could now see us having a relationship and if I wanted to marriage. I actually got proposed by a girl. But hse wants to be in her country so she wants me to go there. She wants to build her business and then later she wants to take care of me when I am old (technically I am already). It is nice to actually hear these things from a poor girl whom has never had anything in life and had to fight for everything she has reached so far. She is very proud of herself. And now wants to add an older fat poor muzungu to her list of accomplishments strangely enough.
Basically what is most important to her is that I am kind and respectful. She is telling me honestly what she is up too. Sending me the marriage proposals as they come in from guys (some young and handsome) that she has never met (most of them). She has only slept with one other guy since and wants to not do it anymore until she is sure where she and me are going. She has by now agreed for me to send 8 euro twice a month to pay for the internet for all our voice calling, sometimes up to 3 hours .... and spontaneously send me 2 private photos as well.
So in short although I am hardened myself by many girls after money only. I have finally found an honest hard working one after over 25 years of looking. So it is possible. She has really touched me with her behaviour and I will try to make the best of it with her. Either that or she is the most clever girl I ever met and is playing a very clever game. But every day I get more convinced that she really just wants a man that treats her very nice and talks to her and most importantly ..... simply listens.
Don't listen at all to the jaded mongers here. Get a decent hotel and conduct your business as planned. Meet the sister and family and decide for yourself. You really don't need any advice from this forum. This is cheap sex forum. Not conducive for LTR or loving marriages!
If things go well then go to Manila. There are decent hotels and areas in your price range.What are you talking about? We are not jaded just mongers per se. We have been through all these feelings. We have met, fallen in love albeit short time not enough to commit. This forum is not cheap sex only forum. We do discuss lots of things other than sex.
We have enough experience to suggest tread with care. It is one thing to look to marry a girl from Philippines. At the same time this person should know all the facts. So far he has not met the girl and he is already talking about taking her to America. He is open to let the sister come with the girl for meeting. He is already on the hook for sending money. Does not matter his reason for it.
IMHO he should go meet the girl alone. If both hit it off then take one step at a time. Ofcourse girl will gladly accept the chance of going to America to better her life. As we all know the whole family will also benefit. Once in America which takes a long time nowadays there is no guarantee she will stay with him. Definitely for two years because of immigration laws but after who knows.
PedroMorales
01-20-21, 14:44
Why would she meet in Clark? Has she her own chopper? Does she support as trike driver there?
The place to rendezvous is Dau bus terminal and then get a jeepney taxi whatever to San Fernando or further north. Why would you bring a woman and her sister to an open air brothel? Angeles has nothing going for it, only women with exotic sexual diseases and fake Viagra.
What kind of advice would you expect to get here from guys who send dick pics to guys posing as gals on web sites? If she is into eating out go go gals and doing a little hussling and shooting some pool, then Pampanga is for her. What about you? You are travelling half way around the world to tramp through shanty towns to woo her. Deus vult.
Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends Facebook profiles to verify the information. The posts she has on Facebook were made well before I started talking to her. The social media information I see lead me to believe that she most likely is a legitimate person who is looking for a long term relationship and wants to be a school teacher in the US.
I understand the concerns about Angeles City. However, she actually told me we could meet in Clark and did not say Angeles City. I suggested the ABC hotel after looking on websites. The reason she did not want to meet in Manila initially is because she wants to be closer to her home in the event things do not work out. She told me that until I meet her family she could only stay with me for a couple of days. In fact she wants to bring her sister with her the first time we meet. She and her sister are three years apart and are very close.
I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day. She does not ask for money and she calls and video chats with me several times each day.
My advice to you, wiithout knowing your exact situation. Do not bring this girl to your home country without living with her in the philippinies for at least 6 months. This is the best advice I can give to anyone considering marrying a filipina. If you can't do that, then you can't afford a filipina girlfriend. No amount of talkinig on the phone or video chatting is going to prepare you for what she truly is: a combination of filipino culture and norms, as well as a product of her own specific background. That said. I wish you the best of luck on your adventure.
Thank you for all of the replies. I have been following this girl on Facebook and social media for a few months. She has a college degree in secondary education and has many photos that were taken years ago while she was in college. I also looked at her friends Facebook profiles to verify the information. The posts she has on Facebook were made well before I started talking to her. The social media information I see lead me to believe that she most likely is a legitimate person who is looking for a long term relationship and wants to be a school teacher in the US.
I understand the concerns about Angeles City. However, she actually told me we could meet in Clark and did not say Angeles City. I suggested the ABC hotel after looking on websites. The reason she did not want to meet in Manila initially is because she wants to be closer to her home in the event things do not work out. She told me that until I meet her family she could only stay with me for a couple of days. In fact she wants to bring her sister with her the first time we meet. She and her sister are three years apart and are very close.
I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day. She does not ask for money and she calls and video chats with me several times each day.
Since I want to go to the Philippines to visit anyway I really don't have much to lose. I just want to make sure I won't be harmed and that is why I want to meet her in a hotel that I book.
Based on the responses received I will not book the ABC Hotel and will look into hotels others have suggested. I have no problem paying $200 per night if the hotel is nice and safe.
I understand that 14 days is not enough to take a girl back to the US. However, I think it is enough time to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.
Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the help!
I understand that 14 days is not enough to take a girl back to the US. However, I think it is enough time to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.
Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the help!What do you think you are doing: having an audition to purchase a girlfriend / life mate?
Women are the same the world over. Just go about it as you've done with all the other girls you've met and become friends with throughout your life.
Mr Enternational
01-20-21, 19:43
Why would she meet in Clark? Has she her own chopper? Does she support as trike driver there?Maybe she thinks his flight will come into Clark and she will be waiting for him at the airport when he arrives.
She told me the nearest airport to her home is Clark and never told me she would meet me at the airport. In fact she has no idea where the bus from her town will drop her off when she meets me. She will go to the bus terminal to get information.
She does not have a passport and only has her college identification which is now expired.
As far as the $200 I gave her, big deal! She did not ask for the money I sent it to her. Guys in the US would pay much more than that to video chat with someone that looks like her. Fortunately I have a very successful career and even if she just a "dream," the pleasure of video chatting with her on a daily basis makes the $200 money well spent.
Hopefully, the Philippines will open shortly. I did speak with someone at the Philippines consulate in the US and I was told travel may open by March. I can only hope.
Elvis 2008
01-20-21, 21:33
The posts she has on Facebook were made well before I started talking to her. The social media information I see lead me to believe that she most likely is a legitimate person who is looking for a long term relationship and wants to be a school teacher in the US.
I understand the concerns about Angeles City. However, she actually told me we could meet in Clark and did not say Angeles City. I suggested the ABC hotel after looking on websites.
I have only sent her around $200.00 to help her pay for internet so we could talk each day. She does not ask for money and she calls and video chats with me several times each day.
Since I want to go to the Philippines to visit anyway I really don't have much to lose. I just want to make sure I won't be harmed and that is why I want to meet her in a hotel that I book.
Based on the responses received I will not book the ABC Hotel and will look into hotels others have suggested. I have no problem paying $200 per night if the hotel is nice and safe.
I understand that 14 days is not enough to take a girl back to the US. However, I think it is enough time to determine if I want to continue to pursue her and eventually take her to the US.
Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
Thanks for the help!Dude, you have already lost. There is a phrase called alpha fucks and beta bucks. Look at how much you are paying. Look at how you are accommodating her. You have let American women get you down to the point where you think of yourself as a loser. Look at what you think is reasonable. $3000 for one trip to accommodate one woman and 2 weeks out of your life? You are already doing everything she wants. Watch this video. Hell, watch all the videos from this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXUP3gTfpn0
You have a case of oneitis. You think she could be the one, and there is no such thing!
I was like you, and Mr. E was giving me shit. He was right, and I have changed my tune.
Here is a book you need to read: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PTFKLP6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_d_asin_title_o02?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
It breaks down what a waste it is chasing women like you are doing (and like I was doing).
The best case scenario is you meet her, have good sex, and she milks you from abroad.
The worst case scenario is you marry her. She moves her family over, and five years later, she screams abuse and has you kicked out of your own home.
I know you are not going to listen to me. Maybe if you get the ROI book on pursuing women you might stop this insanity.
You already have established yourself as a beta, and you have to cut and run and onto the next. You really need to up your game and act like an alpha.
I do not know if you have a thing for Asian women over Latinas, and I do not know Asia that well but $3000 would buy you 3 months of pussy in Bogota or 2 years if you just dedicated it to one woman.
You have let American girls beat your ego down. If you have that kind of scratch and are willing to go to the third world, you are a fucking stud, and you need to start acting like one.
PedroMorales
01-21-21, 01:14
She had to go to the bus terminal to get information everyone has. There is a major bus station at Dau, about 2 km from Walking Street and a jeepney depot beside Walking Street. Her family members and their pet pig could give her that info.
She has no current ID? Right.
Send me $200 so I can drink it on Red Horse. No video chats though but I will refer you to Chaterbate.
"Someone at the Philippines consulate in the US" gave you bum advice. Did they downgrade their embassy?
Here are your relevant links regarding exiting the US on a US passport to LBFM land.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Philippines.html
https://ph.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/
After you send me my money, buy a towel and baby oil.
She told me the nearest airport to her home is Clark and never told me she would meet me at the airport. In fact she has no idea where the bus from her town will drop her off when she meets me. She will go to the bus terminal to get information.
She does not have a passport and only has her college identification which is now expired.
As far as the $200 I gave her, big deal! She did not ask for the money I sent it to her. Guys in the US would pay much more than that to video chat with someone that looks like her. Fortunately I have a very successful career and even if she just a "dream," the pleasure of video chatting with her on a daily basis makes the $200 money well spent.
Hopefully, the Philippines will open shortly. I did speak with someone at the Philippines consulate in the US and I was told travel may open by March. I can only hope.
Mr Enternational
01-21-21, 02:37
Dude, you have already lost. There is a phrase called alpha fucks and beta bucks. Look at how much you are paying. Look at how you are accommodating her. You have let American women get you down to the point where you think of yourself as a loser. Look at what you think is reasonable. $3000 for one trip to accommodate one woman and 2 weeks out of your life?
You have a case of oneitis. You think she could be the one, and there is no such thing!Shit. If my man Elvis is coming off like this then there must be something to it. My own uncle fucked up like that. He met some chick in Davao online that kept calling him daddy. He ended up divorcing my aunt and hightailing it to PI where he built a house for the chick and her family. He is a carpenter by trade so at least he saved on the labor. Now his ass is back in the States broke.
If he thinks he is serious about this chick though I would advise him to go early to experience other people whether normal chicks or monger stuff. Then after that, meet up with that chick and that will tell it all. Easy to fall like that when you are love and attention starved and some exotic chick comes along whispering sweet nothings. Like I tried to tell my uncle before he ran over there, the country is full of chicks that will call you daddy. That is nothing special or extraordinary. But of course mfs don't listen and have to learn on their own.
Member #4698
01-21-21, 03:21
There is an endless line of lonely guys who come to poor 3rd world countries looking for love in the form of a marriage and a legal relationship. 99.999% of the time it does not work for obvious reasons. That stat should tell these guys something, but it rarely does because their loneliness is so acute.
All I will advise our current lonely heart is for your own sake take your time. Yes, come to the PI, meet the girl, and see if you click. But fuhgeddaboud any romantic entanglement nonsense you may have in your head and above all else; Do not do anything rash like marry the girl or bring her to your country for a minimum of 2 years after you meet her. A lot can happen in 2 years. You will a lot wiser and more experienced than you are now in 2 years. If the girl still appeals to you after 2 years, then do what you want with her. The odds will still be stacked against the two of you especially if you plan to bring her back to your home country, but at least you will be an informed romantic fool rather than a completely uninformed one.
She told me the nearest airport to her home is Clark and never told me she would meet me at the airport. In fact she has no idea where the bus from her town will drop her off when she meets me. She will go to the bus terminal to get information.
She does not have a passport and only has her college identification which is now expired.
As far as the $200 I gave her, big deal! She did not ask for the money I sent it to her. Guys in the US would pay much more than that to video chat with someone that looks like her. Fortunately I have a very successful career and even if she just a "dream," the pleasure of video chatting with her on a daily basis makes the $200 money well spent.
Hopefully, the Philippines will open shortly. I did speak with someone at the Philippines consulate in the US and I was told travel may open by March. I can only hope.There are guys on this board who have married a pina and lived happily ever after just as there are guys who have been severely burnt and lost everything. A couple are literally in jail as we speak. Hence, its no surprise that the advice has ranged from meet her and have a good time through to all girls a whorres to be fucked and forgotten. My guess is that your girl, like many, will fall somewhere in the middle.
At the end of the day, its your life. Go have a good time but be alert for the good and bad signs that everyone has mentioned here and react accordingly. . If it works out, great. If not, have your fun and move on.
If he thinks he is serious about this chick though I would advise him to go early to experience other people whether normal chicks or monger stuff. Then after that, meet up with that chick and that will tell it all.Good advice. Every new arrival, new or old hand, arrives with some level of blue balls that distorts his perspective. Have some meaningless fun upon arrival then you will be clear headed and the big head will be the one making decisions.
Enjoy. G.
She told me the nearest airport to her home is Clark and never told me she would meet me at the airport. In fact she has no idea where the bus from her town will drop her off when she meets me. She will go to the bus terminal to get information.
She does not have a passport and only has her college identification which is now expired.
As far as the $200 I gave her, big deal! She did not ask for the money I sent it to her. Guys in the US would pay much more than that to video chat with someone that looks like her. Fortunately I have a very successful career and even if she just a "dream," the pleasure of video chatting with her on a daily basis makes the $200 money well spent.
Hopefully, the Philippines will open shortly. I did speak with someone at the Philippines consulate in the US and I was told travel may open by March. I can only hope.You are going to do what you will do and Good Luck with that. I've been criticized myself for some of my approaches to dealing with women I've discussed here. But there is one thing you really need to be aware of.
If she has no ID, and the only one is a college ID which has expired, how did she cash the money you sent to her? You have to have some type of ID to get it cashed. So she used a fake ID? Then that means either you are not knowing her real name or she gave you some reason why she used that name that sounded plausible. Or, you were asked to send it to her brother / sister / cousin, etc. To cash it in for her. Though I'm not trying to be suspicious, that sounds a little scammy.
You say you have done well in business and can afford this, well I ask that you use some of that business sense and apply it to this situation. Ask yourself, with the amount of advice and things being brought up to you, would you actually enter a deal for work with the same details?
No ID will catch up to one at the great arbiter, the US Embassy there. When I was going through the process with my current wife, who is a Japanese citizen coming from the land of "organization for organizations sake" we had to present all types of forms, income made, health data, etc. To the Embassy in Tokyo just to get her Green Card submitted. While I was there, there was an American trying to get his Pinay "girlfriend" in the process. It was interesting to watch since it was an open bay area, when the US government person was asking for proof of relationship since they had only been together for a short time and he had to start providing pictures of them from various times to show that he had indeed been knowing her. He was coming in as one of the US citizens working for the bases here, and thought he could get away. I didn't get to see the end of it all but before I left, they were having a "moment of truth" when all of a sudden those youngster who had been his girls nieces all of a sudden came up with a more closer relationship (I. E. They were actually hers) and the Embassy staff started showing him all of the forms that stated if he sponsors her and family he would be liable to support them and they wouldn't be eligible for any public assistance (this was in 2008) which was and still is the law. We were leaving when he had to pull her to the side to get to the bottom line. Wish I could have stayed to see it. Made my long wait time and fees paid well worth it.
If you think this is the right path for you, head down it. But don't come back here 6 months later complaining about what happened. You can do that, expect to get heaped on by the Lurkers, and afterwards we will welcome you into the official club of "Lurkering!
No ID will catch up to one at the great arbiter, the US Embassy there. When I was going through the process with my current wife, who is a Japanese citizen coming from the land of "organization for organizations sake" we had to present all types of forms, income made, health data, etc. To the Embassy in Tokyo just to get her Green Card submitted. While I was there, there was an American trying to get his Pinay "girlfriend" in the process. It was interesting to watch since it was an open bay area, when the US government person was asking for proof of relationship since they had only been together for a short time and he had to start providing pictures of them from various times to show that he had indeed been knowing her. He was coming in as one of the US citizens working for the bases here, and thought he could get away. I didn't get to see the end of it all but before I left, they were having a "moment of truth" when all of a sudden those youngster who had been his girls nieces all of a sudden came up with a more closer relationship (I. E. They were actually hers) and the Embassy staff started showing him all of the forms that stated if he sponsors her and family he would be liable to support them and they wouldn't be eligible for any public assistance (this was in 2008) which was and still is the law. We were leaving when he had to pull her to the side to get to the bottom line. Wish I could have stayed to see it. Made my long wait time and fees paid well worth it.I mentioned before about local 3rd parties knowing instantly where the girl and relationship sit and it would be hard to think of a better qualified group than Embassy Visa staff. They have seen it all and act accordingly. The long term resident with multiple holiday receipts and birthday cards from parents gets a relatively easy ride. Met online, visited for a week or two and now wants to emigrate to the West will receive a deep dive inspection.
I've often heard the visa process described as made so onerous that only the truly committed want to go through with it.
Again, I wish the OP the best but go in with your eyes open. Don't underestimate the costs, time and liabilities involved in the whole process.
Cheers. G.
Engine Driver
01-21-21, 10:49
She told me the nearest airport to her home is Clark and never told me she would meet me at the airport. In fact she has no idea where the bus from her town will drop her off when she meets me. She will go to the bus terminal to get information.
She does not have a passport and only has her college identification which is now expired.
As far as the $200 I gave her, big deal! She did not ask for the money I sent it to her. Guys in the US would pay much more than that to video chat with someone that looks like her. Fortunately I have a very successful career and even if she just a "dream," the pleasure of video chatting with her on a daily basis makes the $200 money well spent.
Hopefully, the Philippines will open shortly. I did speak with someone at the Philippines consulate in the US and I was told travel may open by March. I can only hope.Your girl and her family can't believe their luck that they caught a fat American whale. The fact that you sent the money without her asking for it singles you out as a totally gullible person. And don't they know it. Although it is only $200 to you and you are a wealthy, successful business person so you don't care, that's 11,000 peso to her. That's a months salary in the Philippines. Would you give $5,000 to someone you had never met in the US? Same same here.
Do you really think she is going to spend 11,000 peso on internet? The internet bill for the whole fucking barangay wouldn't come to 11,000 peso. Most poor girls know how to use free wifi. If they can't get wifi, they will spend a few hundred peso on a pre-paid sim (called load in the Philippines), not 11,000 peso. Do you want to know what her family did with the 11,000 peso? Her father, uncle, brothers or her Pinoy boyfriend would have taken about half of it and bought a few cases of Red Horse, got drunk and gambled with the rest. The next day, with whatever money your girl had left, they would have hosted a lechon banquet at their house for their tribe, with more Red Horse to wash that pork down. This would have been to celebrate the girl catching a fat American whale and to show off to their extended family how rich they are.
As someone mentioned earlier, a girl who loves you will do so regardless of whether you send money or not. They are perfectly capable of surviving without a white man's money.
My suggestion to you is to go to the Philippines and just fuck as many hookers as you can. Depending on how old you are and on your Viagra dosage, you should be able to work through two hookers a day. You will learn a lot about the Pinay character and then be in a better position to make an informed decision. Yes, I know that hookers don't represent all Filipinas, but from the lake you're fishing in, it won't matter.
Mr Enternational
01-21-21, 14:42
I mentioned before about local 3rd parties knowing instantly where the girl and relationship sit and it would be hard to think of a better qualified group than Embassy Visa staff.Another thing to do would be to tell the girl he wants to come live in PI. I had met a Brazilian chick online and was talking to her for about 1 week. She was adamant about coming to live in the USA. When I kept insisting that I did not think it was a good idea and it would be better for me to move to Brazil, she blocked me.
An expired college ID will get you pretty far in the philippines. I'm not suprised she was able to pick up the money.
You are going to do what you will do and Good Luck with that. I've been criticized myself for some of my approaches to dealing with women I've discussed here. But there is one thing you really need to be aware of.
If she has no ID, and the only one is a college ID which has expired, how did she cash the money you sent to her? You have to have some type of ID to get it cashed. So she used a fake ID? Then that means either you are not knowing her real name or she gave you some reason why she used that name that sounded plausible. Or, you were asked to send it to her brother / sister / cousin, etc. To cash it in for her. Though I'm not trying to be suspicious, that sounds a little scammy.
You say you have done well in business and can afford this, well I ask that you use some of that business sense and apply it to this situation. Ask yourself, with the amount of advice and things being brought up to you, would you actually enter a deal for work with the same details?
No ID will catch up to one at the great arbiter, the US Embassy there. When I was going through the process with my current wife, who is a Japanese citizen coming from the land of "organization for organizations sake" we had to present all types of forms, income made, health data, etc. To the Embassy in Tokyo just to get her Green Card submitted. While I was there, there was an American trying to get his Pinay "girlfriend" in the process. It was interesting to watch since it was an open bay area, when the US government person was asking for proof of relationship since they had only been together for a short time and he had to start providing pictures of them from various times to show that he had indeed been knowing her. He was coming in as one of the US citizens working for the bases here, and thought he could get away. I didn't get to see the end of it all but before I left, they were having a "moment of truth" when all of a sudden those youngster who had been his girls nieces all of a sudden came up with a more closer relationship (I. E. They were actually hers) and the Embassy staff started showing him all of the forms that stated if he sponsors her and family he would be liable to support them and they wouldn't be eligible for any public assistance (this was in 2008) which was and still is the law. We were leaving when he had to pull her to the side to get to the bottom line. Wish I could have stayed to see it. Made my long wait time and fees paid well worth it.
If you think this is the right path for you, head down it. But don't come back here 6 months later complaining about what happened. You can do that, expect to get heaped on by the Lurkers, and afterwards we will welcome you into the official club of "Lurkering!
Pahllus Maximus
01-21-21, 20:51
The posts below point to bunch of books about how women drain the energy and life of men. This is actually very old knowledge. Mature societies such as Greece and judaism celebrate same sex friendships for emotional support rather than placing all their eggs in one basket, a woman, which is what western society promotes. A single point of failure. And one that encourages GDP consumption, being a work slave and fleeced by taxes without any reciprocation by corrupt politicians who only listen to their lobbyist paymasters and will not even meet their free constituents. Elections are PR.
Men who fail to develop strong long term friendships (and thus social connection) and robust self esteem are fragile. Looking for a magic carpet ride from a single female to fill this vacuum is doomed to failure. Women also get fucked over building their future on a single point of failure. For men, put down the booze as self medication, work out (this creates potent brain chemicals), sleep well and realize porn is just another monkey brain stimulant. We need to get self-control, good, trusted friends or relatives and be aware of triggers that control us. The brain is a useful tool, but like an aircraft, it will go haywire unless properly managed and we recognize and avoid fooling ourselves with magic thinking, drama, fucked people and fucked economies.
3rd world countries amplify this insane hope a woman will make us whole, because it is transactional. The girls trade looks and sex for security like anywhere, but unlike the west are relative cultural and educational aliens with divided loyalties. They see fat, flabby white men (or fit young ones) as their meal ticket, just as sugar babies in the US do. There is no discrimination by flips on race or age, only money. The long line or honey and lonely men have themselves to blame, and going to Asia to solve the empty self will fail. It is down to YOU to fix the foundations.
By all means go on a diving trip, a nice swim, cold beer, chill, some young women to enjoy, but remember why they hanging out. Don't let monkey brain and oxytocin confuse you. They are garnish. The main meal is you living happily in your own skin.
Viper. I've been thinking about your case much more than I should. I think you should really consider who you are asking advice from by posting on this board. Everyone here was a newb once and got burned somehow by some girl. I feel bad for you, because you seem like a guy who is geniuinely in love and wants it all to work out. Most of the advice you've gotten is overly negative, but completely understandable considering who it is you are asking.
I want to play the other side of the coin for a moment. What you want has about a 1 percent change of working out in my mind. If that's okay for you, then, as a believer in love, you should make a go at it, but be reasonable. And go in knowing that you don't know much about this country or the women of it. You're job is to find out as much as you can. You'll likely be disapointed by this particular woman, I'm sad to say. But there is a chance you won't be and you will live happily ever after.
I know some people have said that choosing clark is a red flag. But in my opinion, clark is a natural choice, if she thinks you are flying in. The red light district of Angeles is pretty small and distinct from Clark. Clark is a legitimate growing business area, at least before the pandemic. Who knows what it will be like after. But it doesn't throw any red flags for me. She's from zambales, Clark is the nearest airport where she can meet you at. It also could be that she just doesn't know that many places.
Theres also some nice hotels in Clark. I believe there is a holiday inn there that is pretty nice.
Some good advice from other board members. Go sow some of your seeds. Do some normal stuff before you settle down and meet her. There are a lot of filipinas out there. I suggest marrying a rich one if you can. You can kill off a whole class of future problems this way. Filipinas are romantics, and fall in love easily. Theres a lot of them without many good marraige prospects. If you're really into getting married and are geniune about it, that's a huge card you have to play.
She told me the nearest airport to her home is Clark and never told me she would meet me at the airport. In fact she has no idea where the bus from her town will drop her off when she meets me. She will go to the bus terminal to get information.
She does not have a passport and only has her college identification which is now expired.
As far as the $200 I gave her, big deal! She did not ask for the money I sent it to her. Guys in the US would pay much more than that to video chat with someone that looks like her. Fortunately I have a very successful career and even if she just a "dream," the pleasure of video chatting with her on a daily basis makes the $200 money well spent.
Hopefully, the Philippines will open shortly. I did speak with someone at the Philippines consulate in the US and I was told travel may open by March. I can only hope.Viper, as some have said you're getting a lot of negative comments on this and I hope you understand that most of us here are just telling you what we have seen or done and sometimes wish someone would have told us. But to each his own and if this is the avenue you wish to pursue good luck.
One thing I want to ask is what time do you normally chat with this lady? The reason I ask is if she chats during your daytime that means that it's night time in the PI and if one were to check on those sites like Meet Me, Tagged, etc. You would see those are the busy hours for those young lady's to ply their trade. I've seen them do a complete time zone shift to sleep during the day and lurk at night online. Why is that? One told me the honest truth, Pinoy boys at home don't have the money to buy "gifts" from those sites, so they go where the money is. That means if she is talking to you during your daytime, she is up all night just chatting away where the money is. Just something to think about before going into this.
As others have said, slow it down, take a trip to the PI and just go to tour and then see the lady and make sure that this is something you really want. Not sure how old you are but back in the 80's Eddie Murphy did a comedy stand-up routine in of his earlier films where he was going to marry an African woman because they weren't going to be jaded like American women and once he got her back to the USA the American women taught her a very frightening word: "Half" so when she is ready to divorceafter he makes $100 million and she makes $110 at a store selling gifts she said "I want Half!" I'm sure that type of joke is not PC these days but you get the point. Don't get to the point where after 6 months this lady is going to want her "Half" from you.
Viper. I've been thinking about your case much more than I should. I think you should really consider who you are asking advice from by posting on this board...True. Keep in mind every monger I know (myself excluded, of course. 😁 is damaged or socially inept in some way. I'm yet to meet an exception. This definitely affects our outlook on life. Joe Q Citizen just doesn't fly half way around the world, or even go live there, to pay to fuck kids 1/3 his age.
The OP should keep this in mind when he reads all the advice about the girls being crazy gold diggers.
Everyone here was a newb once and got burned somehow by some girl..Yes, but most of us have also had some stallar good times too. 😎.
Enjoy. G.
Viper. I've been thinking about your case much more than I should. I think you should really consider who you are asking advice from by posting on this board. I feel bad for you, because you seem like a guy who is geniuinely in love and wants it all to work out. Most of the advice you've gotten is overly negative, but completely understandable considering who it is you are asking.What you ought to consider is who is doing the asking. This could be a guy who's never had a girlfriend in his life, and who can't get laid in his own country. A situation, in other words, that no one here has experienced, or can relate to.
True. Keep in mind every monger I know (myself excluded, of course. 😁 is damaged or socially inept in some way. I'm yet to meet an exception.I can't verify that opinion as I go to meet girls not other mongers. If a guy even tries to start a conversation with me he gets the ' why the fuck are you talking to me look'. Maybe that is my social ineptness!
If a guy even tries to start a conversation with me he gets the ' why the fuck are you talking to me look'. Maybe that is my social ineptness!QED. 😉.
Everybody goes for different reasons. Nothing wrong with that.
Cheers. G.
SinfullyKorean
01-23-21, 01:16
This pandemic needs to go. You can tell how bored everyone is by how much they're delving into this long distance relationship that's doomed to fail. EVERYONE's telling Viper "NOOOO, don't do it! But he'll probably do it. And we're all addicted to the drama. Because there's really nothing to write about, sadly. Can't wait til the end of 2021!
This pandemic needs to go. You can tell how bored everyone is by how much they're delving into this long distance relationship that's doomed to fail. EVERYONE's telling Viper "NOOOO, don't do it! But he'll probably do it. And we're all addicted to the drama. Because there's really nothing to write about, sadly. Can't wait til the end of 2021!Not only this one.
Now we have GD trying to smuggle hookers thru NAIA to Europe.
When did it get so hard to get laid? 😉.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. If anyone wants them, I've got numerous numbers of unemployed models in Zamboanga City that I can hand out. Nice girls, tired of young studs and lookimg for a kind hearted 70 yo gentleman that they can care for.
Just send me $2000 so I can buy them a phone to chat to you on. 👍 👍.
Just send me $2000 so I can buy them a phone to chat to you on. 👍 👍.You're so kind. Off to Western Union now. Will you use your expired college ID to pick up the 2 K?
WestCoast1
01-23-21, 10:15
This pandemic needs to go. You can tell how bored everyone is by how much they're delving into this long distance relationship that's doomed to fail. SNIP Because there's really nothing to write about, sadly. Can't wait til the end of 2021!Move along folks, nothing to see or write about here. Nothing. . .
You're so kind. Off to Western Union now. Will you use your expired college ID to pick up the 2 K?Detwing,
My gym membership card works fine to receive funds.
I've told the girls and they are keen to chat. Do you by chance use a CPap machine or Oxygen Concentrator? I've found these really make the girls really horny.
They did mention that if you send $3600 each they will be able to afford a iPhone 12 Pro. It has enough camera resolution to include their friend. You remember the lesbian Victoria Secret model that likes your pacemaker scar?
Let me know. G.
Some background I'm a 63 year old white man from the usa with below average looks.
This is my list of favorite destinations if I was in my 30 or 40 s the list would be different.
This list is the total package accommodation, food the price of beer and price of entertainment.
In the last 3 years I have been to all the places on my list.
1. Mtwapa (2 visit).
Meet girls online, beach, on the street everyway also girlie pickup bars food is so cheap here.
The dollars is strong here.
2 kampala (1 visit).
Meet girls on line some great clubs where you can meet non working girls also they have girlie.
Pickup bars cheapest place to drink beer that I've been the dollars is very strong here the best value for.
A all night visit.
3 nairobi (3 visit).
Meet girls one line a lot of clubs to meet normal girls and oh course black diamond to meet working girl.
K1 is a good place to meet women also pro and non pro since its a big city kinda expensive.
......
On my list of place to go is Bali and the unkraine and south africa.Thanks. Africa has been on my Places to Try for a while.
Bali is possibly the worst place in Indonesia for mongering. The influx of cashed up short time tourists leads to girls that come from elsewhere just to rack up as much money ASAP. Very hardened and not service focused at all. Jakarta is much better if you want foreigner friendly. You seem to like the less developed places too so try Bandung, Jogjakarta or Surabaya. Sulawesi has some gorgeous girls.
Cheers. G.
SinfullyKorean
01-24-21, 16:45
Thanks for making this list. What would your list look like for a 40 yr old?
Some background I'm a 63 year old white man from the usa with below average looks.
This is my list of favorite destinations if I was in my 30 or 40 s the list would be different.
This list is the total package accommodation, food the price of beer and price of entertainment.
In the last 3 years I have been to all the places on my list.
1. Mtwapa (2 visit).
Meet girls online, beach, on the street everyway also girlie pickup bars food is so cheap here.
The dollars is strong here.
2 kampala (1 visit).
Meet girls on line some great clubs where you can meet non working girls also they have girlie.
Pickup bars cheapest place to drink beer that I've been the dollars is very strong here the best value for.
A all night visit.
3 nairobi (3 visit).
Meet girls one line a lot of clubs to meet normal girls and oh course black diamond to meet working girl.
K1 is a good place to meet women also pro and non pro since its a big city kinda expensive.
4 cebu (10 visit).
Really focus on the dating sites so many women also can meet at the mall some girlie go go.
Bars but a waste of time. Also they have some nice disco to go but be carefull of the lady boys.
It s easy to get around cebu the the air con taxi are very cheap for a western the dollars is ok here.
5 angeles city (15 visit).
If I was in my 30 or 40 it may be at the top of my list around 100 girlie go go bars you pick a girl on the stage.
Agree on the terms off you go 20 years ago good value now the price and gone up so much.
Also a lot of expats live in angles so whatever country you are from you can find someone from your country.
6 montego bay jamacia (6 visits).
Meet girls on line a couple of good clubs you can meet non pro girls also you can meet some girls at he beach.
Its close to the states so I never have jet lag can hit the ground running only place I don't drink beer the rum is.
Good and cheap I don't really like the beer red stripe also the dollars is very strong here hotels are over priced.
7 pattaya (2 visits).
So many bars and massage parlors like being a kid in a candy store the best value is soi 6 . in all my travels the best value for a nice cheap clean hotel is pattaya the only english the thai women know is shorttimes ehheheh the price of.
Enterainment is high for short time nice to see the girls in the bar dancing in the nude the dollars value not to good.
8 Bangkok (2 visit) it s ok for a short time to visit a lot of streetwalkers some nice girlie go go bars but to many lady.
Boys Nana plaza is ok and soi cowboy is ok dollars is very weak here.
9 manila (10 visit) if you like big crowded cities whit awful tracffic its the place for you.
Meet girls at the mall and online or go to la cafe a huge pickup place.
On my list of place to go is Bali and the unkraine and south africa.
MohdirFan82
01-24-21, 17:31
Thanks. Africa has been on my Places to Try for a while.
Bali is possibly the worst place in Indonesia for mongering. The influx of cashed up short time tourists leads to girls that come from elsewhere just to rack up as much money ASAP. Very hardened and not service focused at all. Jakarta is much better if you want foreigner friendly. You seem to like the less developed places too so try Bandung, Jogjakarta or Surabaya. Sulawesi has some gorgeous girls.
Cheers. G.I agree with you, I been visiting Indonesia specially Jakarta for the past 8 years. It's heaven for foreigners. I only visit Jakarta and have mostly pre-planned bookings with my potential targets.
Steve Nash
02-11-21, 08:50
Hello,
I am new to the forum and would like to ask a question. I have been talking to a girl for several months and I would really like to bring her to the US if our first meeting in the Philippines goes well. She lives in San Antonio, Zambales Philippines and she suggested that we meet in Angeles City which is about a 1 1/2 hour bus ride for her. If things go well we can then go to Manila. I plan on spending 14 days in the Philippines.
Any advice on what to watch out for when meeting for the first time?
This is my first time to the Philippines and I want to make the most out of my time in the country.
Thank you in advance for any assistance to this newbie.
The way I see it, you need to ask yourself this question:
How serious are you in finding your soulmate in another country?
Because if you are very serious, 2 weeks is not enough, even 3 months in Philippines won't be enough, I would say you will need to live with her for at least 6 months to really know her and to start thinking of bringing her to your country.
Since you were OK sending her $200 without even knowing her in person, I feel you are aproaching this the wrong way, if you want to meet your soulmate, don't ever send money to a girl you haven't met in person and don't ever meet her in Angeles City.
In fact don't even step in Angeles City if you are looking for a serious woman, either she is a goldigger if she is the one insisting to meet you there or if you are the one insisting you will look bad on her eyes if you ever meet her there, and she will see you as those losers who pay for sex (not offense to anyone here, but that's how good girls see people who go to Angeles City and pay for sex), you don't want to marry a girl who sees you that way so don't hangout in those places.
That's the reason I never step my foot in Angeles City, you will never find good girls there, maybe there are afew, but is like winning the lotto 1 in a million.
Another question you should ask yourself, age difference, if she is 30+ years younger than you forget it!
Go find someone older and closer to your age, less than 20 yrs difference is fine in Philippines.
If I was you I will take my time, visit Philippines many times and only meet normal girls not pros or semi pros, not girls that are expecting money in return, just pay for the date, and if she wants to pay even better.
If you still want to insist in meeting her, then meet her in Manila, if she is very interested in you she will go meet you there, if she don't then you know she doesn't care about you. And make sure to tell her that you are not looking to bringing her to your country until you know her very well, just don't even mention that subject of bringing her to your country.
Like I said you need to make afew trips, and videocam her everyday, know her family, her friends, places she hangout, Goferring gave you good ideas on cues you should look for.
I'm telling you all this from personal experience, and everything I'm telling you is exactly what I'm doing, and finally I met a good girl who I have great chemistry with, I spent 8 months living with her during covid, and trust me 8 months seeing eachother everyday during lockdown is like having a 2-3 years relationship back home. I already know she is a good girl with good intentions, but I'm still deciding if I want to end my single life, I will go back to Philippines at the end of this year for another 3-4 months there, hopefully Covid is gone by that time and I will get to do island hopping with her and spend more time before I can finally make my decision.
Mr Enternational
02-11-21, 12:26
Since you were OK sending her $200 without even knowing her in person, I feel you are aproaching this the wrong way, if you want to meet your soulmate, don't ever send money to a girl you haven't met in personI would go as far as to say don't ever send money even if you have met a girl. If you just need to feel warm and fuzzy then ok. But in all these years I have been no worse off because I did not send money; whether it has been normal girlfriend or hooker. If a chick gets angry or does not talk to you anymore because you did not send money, then you know why she was there in the first place; and it was not for your good looks, charm, or sharp wit.
The way I see it, you need to ask yourself this question:
How serious are you in finding your soulmate in another country?
Because if you are very serious, 2 weeks is not enough, even 3 months in Philippines won't be enough, I would say you will need to live with her for at least 6 months to really know her and to start thinking of bringing her to your country.
Since you were OK sending her $200 without even knowing her in person, I feel you are aproaching this the wrong way, if you want to meet your soulmate, don't ever send money to a girl you haven't met in person and don't ever meet her in Angeles City.
In fact don't even step in Angeles City if you are looking for a serious woman, either she is a goldigger if she is the one insisting to meet you there or if you are the one insisting you will look bad on her eyes if you ever meet her there, and she will see you as those losers who pay for sex (not offense to anyone here, but that's how good girls see people who go to Angeles City and pay for sex), you don't want to marry a girl who sees you that way so don't hangout in those places.
That's the reason I never step my foot in Angeles City, you will never find good girls there, maybe there are afew, but is like winning the lotto 1 in a million.
Another question you should ask yourself, age difference, if she is 30+ years younger than you forget it!
Go find someone older and closer to your age, less than 20 yrs difference is fine in Philippines.
If I was you I will take my time, visit Philippines many times and only meet normal girls not pros or semi pros, not girls that are expecting money in return, just pay for the date, and if she wants to pay even better.
If you still want to insist in meeting her, then meet her in Manila, if she is very interested in you she will go meet you there, if she don't then you know she doesn't care about you. And make sure to tell her that you are not looking to bringing her to your country until you know her very well, just don't even mention that subject of bringing her to your country.
Like I said you need to make afew trips, and videocam her everyday, know her family, her friends, places she hangout, Goferring gave you good ideas on cues you should look for.
I'm telling you all this from personal experience, and everything I'm telling you is exactly what I'm doing, and finally I met a good girl who I have great chemistry with, I spent 8 months living with her during covid, and trust me 8 months seeing eachother everyday during lockdown is like having a 2-3 years relationship back home. I already know she is a good girl with good intentions, but I'm still deciding if I want to end my single life, I will go back to Philippines at the end of this year for another 3-4 months there, hopefully Covid is gone by that time and I will get to do island hopping with her and spend more time before I can finally make my decision.Great advice. For Viper, you need to remember that the greater the disparity in age and wealth, the less likely it is that you end up in a romantic relationship. Also, you have to consider that she might already live (and work) in AC, if she wants to meet you there (even if her family actually lives 90 minutes away). Then consider how you will feel when your friends / family see you with a girl whom I assume is much younger than you and doesn't speak English well. And also what happens when you get tired of sleeping with her and ache for some real companionship with a girl able to stimulate your mind. Finally, it isn't easy getting a Pinay a visa into the US.
Some things are best left to fantasy.
Dark Knight1
02-11-21, 17:02
I would go as far as to say don't ever send money even if you have met a girl. If you just need to feel warm and fuzzy then ok. But in all these years I have been no worse off because I did not send money; whether it has been normal girlfriend or hooker. If a chick gets angry or does not talk to you anymore because you did not send money, then you know why she was there in the first place; and it was not for your good looks, charm, or sharp wit.Most women in developing countries don't date us for charm, looks and sharp wit. Most men with those qualities not trolling around the developing countries.
JohnReter335
02-11-21, 21:12
I agree with you, I been visiting Indonesia specially Jakarta for the past 8 years. It's heaven for foreigners. I only visit Jakarta and have mostly pre-planned bookings with my potential targets.After reading your comment I researched a little bit about the city Jakarta but I didn't get it too attractive expect the food.
Because if you are very serious, 2 weeks is not enough, even 3 months in Philippines won't be enough, I would say you will need to live with her for at least 6 months to really know her and to start thinking of bringing her to your country.
The big advantage of being in country for an extended time is that you will also meet normal girls. Yes, they do exist online and in AC but the odds really are against you.
Living a normal life in country, you will bump into girls with similar interests at the store, movies, dive shop etc.
Enjoy. G.
Occasional poster, I thought I'd provide some insight on meeting girls in the Philippines. OK that comes at the end.
My situation. I have been here for a year now in pandemic. I am 57 and I have a serious Philippines girlfriend -- two years now. I did meet her at the bar where she worked, but her situation is very similar to many bargirls, as I explain below. (I have done all the shagging many girls before, threesomes etc etc.).
She came from a poor family, and her father died. Mother and younger brother could not do anything. She has a high school diploma but that is barely enough to get a job. To be a waitress in a good restaurant requires a college education. Ridiculous, I know. But there is such a labor supply.
So before working at the bar, she supported herself and two family members. Their diet was rice + soy sauce usually. Maybe rice + blood. On the occasion that they did cook, they cooked with a charcoal fire inside their house. This is all true and there are people in her neighborhood who do the same.
Some of the girls in the neighborhood worked at the bar, and had met foreigner husbands. So she decided to try. Did she want to work at a bar. No.
For her, she made a lot of money at the bar with her perspective. And lots of tips from customers.
What does she say about working at the bar? Oh I happy that now my family can have yummy food. How do you feel when someone bar fined you? I feel very happy because I can help my family. This is very typical Filipino attitude.
She definitely liked and formed friendships with some of her customers who treated her well. Of course, lots of the time it was a bummer, but she made some cash. "Many times I did things that I don't want to do".
With working at the bar, her family got their first refrigerator, first stove, first TV. Etc etc. Without the bar, she would likely spend the rest of her life eating rice, getting impregnated by some lazy neighbor with him cheating on her when she is looking a little old. Really, Filipino girls from poor backgrounds, limited education, no money have no options. No hope no future, as we would consider it.
We've been together for 2 years. Do I support her, obviously. My one condition is that her family members try to work and don't just rely on taking handouts from me. The males in her family are construction laborers who make about 500 peso per day.
Per the comments below, I don't think it is fair to judge a girl if she hopes for support from you. Even in the West, most girls of all ages are looking for security / support from their partner. ("no money, no honey".
And to add, I know many bargirls in Makati as friends, given that I am in a relationship with their friend. I would say about half qualify as having a similar situation and hopes as my GF. If you are attracted to heavily tatted, slutty performers, then that is a different group. Again, I did fine meeting my GF at the bar. If you happen to be at the bar and want meet a more genuine one, treat the mamasan well, and ask for a younger one, and one that maybe just started. I can think of several super sexy fun girls that work at the bar, but at the bottom of their hearts they want to meet a foreigner and have a decent life. I haven't tried them out personally but they seem like they would make any man happy.
So yes, to meet loyal normal girls in the Philippines, let's remember that there are a few million to choose from. I would agree that you need to put in the time. If you want to start on the internet, SKYPE with camera every day to chat etc.
On the internet, if the girl is based in Angeles. Consider yourself lucky she is a girl. LOL.
OK where to find girls? They're everywhere! Gorgeous girls working in 711. Gorgeous girls working at supermarkets or department stores. It is incredibly easy. Many girls ask me if I have a wife just in small talk. Hmmm.
If you're really looking for someone, then don't get to sex too fast. But Filipinas are generally romantic and passionate. Won't take hardly any time. Most are pretty serious Catholic, in spirit, so don't be too dirty to start, with a normal girl. And if you want a hybrid experience, real GF and benefits from others. Not a good idea if you are serious.
So yeah, if you can afford the time and money, best to come here for 6 mos.
To each, do what you want. If you want to have 3 girls a day, you can have it. If you want a serious and loyal GF to take care of you, that can be found too.
Good luck!
JC.
The big advantage of being in country for an extended time is that you will also meet normal girls. Yes, they do exist online and in AC but the odds really are against you.
Living a normal life in country, you will bump into girls with similar interests at the store, movies, dive shop etc.
Enjoy. G.
Azmodeus Fl
02-12-21, 17:30
I have been married for 44 years to the woman of my dreams. Has been all wine and roses, NO! Now this is another way to meet a pinay. At the time I was in the Navy and had just gotten back to the ship after 18 months in Vietnam and seeing more senseless carnage than anyone should ever see. Ernie had just gotten back to the ship from a school in the sates. We were drinking buddies. I had taken are&are trips from Vietnam to Singapore and the Philippines and had spent many 3 or 4 days with a bar girl for nothing but sex. We got our schedule and was going to spend several week in and out of the Philippines so I told Ernie I wanted to see what the Philippines was like not just a bar trip. Ernie gave me this girl's name and address, then started playing 20 questions and I asked him who this is. Ernie tells me she is his cousin and I told him if that was all I was interested in I would stay in the bars. I wrote her letters and sent her pictures of me, but she never sent any pictures. 3 months before I met her I told Ernie I was going to marry her and his response was "Are you crazy you've never see her what if she is ugly. " I told him "she can't be". Fast forward three months I finally get enough time to go to Manila and Ernie makes sure I make it there safe. I went to the address and she is not there, but her brother is and he takes me to a neighbor hood bar for two reasons. 1 he knew I would pay for the beer. 2. And to see what My intentions were. Surprise, surprise there were working girls trying to get me in the back room. While we were drinking a little kid runs up and says she is back. Her brother and I go back to where they were staying and I'm in the setting room when she comes down the stairs and my jaw hits the floor. She was and still is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen. Three months later I asked to marry me and three months later we were married. Bottom line if you Filipino friends are wanting to fix you up be open to it and see if they have a picture of that person. You may not be a lucky as me.
Mr Enternational
02-12-21, 20:48
Most women in developing countries don't date us for charm, looks and sharp wit. Most men with those qualities not trolling around the developing countries.That is what I thought hookers were for. If I am going to be throwing any money around then it would be towards multiple hookers while I pay as I go, not for 1 uneducated homely chick that I see maybe twice a year.
So before working at the bar, she supported herself and two family members..Thanks for the thoughtful post. One girl I was dating in Ph told me about her younger years. When she was 19-20 she was commuting to Singapore where she was earning good money as a bargirl. Why did she need the money?- to get her drug-dealer mom out of jail.
That's quite motivating.
In the second year a banker bought her out of the bar and had her as a GF for the next 5 years where they travelled the word together. That relationship eventually ended and she is now happily married to a pinoy. (She is also happy meeting me on my visits.)
Mom is out and clean.
Steve Nash
02-23-21, 04:05
I would go as far as to say don't ever send money even if you have met a girl. If you just need to feel warm and fuzzy then ok. But in all these years I have been no worse off because I did not send money; whether it has been normal girlfriend or hooker. If a chick gets angry or does not talk to you anymore because you did not send money, then you know why she was there in the first place; and it was not for your good looks, charm, or sharp wit.
I agree, don't send her money at all, that's why you got to find someone independent and hardworker with a good career if possible.
The only way I see myself sending money is if she is expecting my baby, which in that case she can not work because she is pregnant.
Only in that case I see myself sending money to her.
Of course you got to make sure you are the father of the baby, only two ways to know for sure is with a DNA test which can be done while she is pregnant or if you had spend the whole 4 - 5 weeks since her last period together and she never slept a night without you, or spend many hours without you.
Hard to do that if you plan to meet multiple girls during your trip, but if you decide to spend your whole trip with just one girl, then it can be possible if you guys go in a 1 month island hoping vacation trip. It will be impossible for her to get pregnant with someone else in a remote island while you guys are vacationing together and spending all the time together.
Elvis 2008
02-23-21, 07:15
I would go as far as to say don't ever send money even if you have met a girl. If you just need to feel warm and fuzzy then ok. But in all these years I have been no worse off because I did not send money; whether it has been normal girlfriend or hooker. If a chick gets angry or does not talk to you anymore because you did not send money, then you know why she was there in the first place; and it was not for your good looks, charm, or sharp wit.LOL. With most women, the minute a chick gets money it is hers, and she does not remember where she got it from. It is a very rare woman who can play the long game.
Be aware that you marry the entire family as well so expect continuing requests for money for the sisters college bill, mother needs an operation, father's gambling debts etc.
Many of these girls fall pregnant young and those nieces and nephews she is so fond of might act be her own children which you will only be told about after the wedding.
The Philippine passport ranks pretty low on the visa free index so expect travelling with her to be inconvenient, you may want to take a quick break at short notice and whilst you probably won't need a visa, she probably will.
You can take the girl out of the bar / village but you can't take the bar / village out of her. My wife left the Philippines over 30 years ago but still eats with her fingers given the chance, and prefers to sit on a low stool whilst eating, rather than at the table. When we visit her hometown, she will quite happily sleep in a bamboo hut and can't wait to eat her first balut (duck egg with partially developed embryo inside).
They are more into sex than the Thai girls and want to make sure you enjoy it. I hooked up with a nymphomaniac half my age on Tinder, it was like being fucked by an animal. Plenty of raw energy but I need to refine her skills a bit.
As a westerner, you can afford to be choosy. Look at higher class and younger than you would at home. You can easily find a stunner 10 years younger than you.
Whilst they are English speaking and Christian, underneath they are Asian don't forget that.
The girls have old fashioned values and make good wives if you treat them well.
Try the "LA Cafe" in Ermita if you're in Manila. Full of freelancers and no admission charge or bar fine, you simply negotiate directly with her and leave. The average standard isn't that high so be prepared to spend a while until you find one you like. The rougher and more desperate ones are close to the front door and will grab you as soon as you enter. Better quality can be found in the back or upstairs, small charge if there is a band playing.
Pussycat123
03-04-21, 22:54
A lot of guys think they can go to the Philippines and meet a beautiful, loyal wife who may be much younger than them. Retired guys literally have 20 somethings throwing themselves at them. And in most cases it would be impossible to meet such a a girl in western countries; they wouldn't even give you a second glance. And in fact it is possible to find a beautiful, loyal, young wife in Ph.
But just remember: In 99% of cases the girls are poor, and their families are poor too. Which means that you, as the relatively wealthy foreigner will be the person they come to when they need help. It doesn't matter if they are a bargirl, "Normal" girl, etc. Unless they are from the Filipino elite then they are relatively poor. (And elite Pinays don't throw themselves at working class foreigners).
I just read a story from a guy married to a Pinay. He gave long, long list of all the problems her family had (Brother drowned in a shipwreck, sister got cancer, etc, etc) and he bankrolled them all, to the tune of about $150 k US.
How many of us that have been married to western women had to bail out their family members? In my case, not only was it zero, her family actually gave money to my family and for my kids education. So I was net positive.
So its not surprising the Pinay will be loyal when you are a walking ATM who will solve all the financial problems of her tribe. Just see how long she stays with you if you are broke, especially if she already got her green card or whatever.
So I'm not saying don't marry a Pinay; I'm just saying just understand what you are getting yourself into. As I said, if something looks too good to be true, it probably is.
A lot of guys think they can go to the Philippines and meet a beautiful, loyal wife who may be much younger than them. Retired guys literally have 20 somethings throwing themselves at them. And in most cases it would be impossible to meet such a a girl in western countries; they wouldn't even give you a second glance. And in fact it is possible to find a beautiful, loyal, young wife in Ph.
But just remember: In 99% of cases the girls are poor, and their families are poor too. Which means that you, as the relatively wealthy foreigner will be the person they come to when they need help. It doesn't matter if they are a bargirl, "Normal" girl, etc. Unless they are from the Filipino elite then they are relatively poor. (And elite Pinays don't throw themselves at working class foreigners).
I just read a story from a guy married to a Pinay. He gave long, long list of all the problems her family had (Brother drowned in a shipwreck, sister got cancer, etc, etc) and he bankrolled them all, to the tune of about $150 k US.
How many of us that have been married to western women had to bail out their family members? In my case, not only was it zero, her family actually gave money to my family and for my kids education. So I was net positive.
So its not surprising the Pinay will be loyal when you are a walking ATM who will solve all the financial problems of her tribe. Just see how long she stays with you if you are broke, especially if she already got her green card or whatever.
So I'm not saying don't marry a Pinay; I'm just saying just understand what you are getting yourself into. As I said, if something looks too good to be true, it probably is.So you were the "Pinay" in the marriage getting money and help from the wife's family!
Be aware that you marry the entire family as well so expect continuing requests for money for the sisters college bill, mother needs an operation, father's gambling debts etc.
I just read a story from a guy married to a Pinay. He gave long, long list of all the problems her family had (Brother drowned in a shipwreck, sister got cancer, etc, etc) and he bankrolled them all, to the tune of about $150 k US.I'm lost here. Why is her family's misfortune his problem?
Guys that loose $150 K only do so because they allow the out flow. Pay the "help" out of her bank account / allowance / part time job and see how long it continues.
Sorry, but I have absolutely no sympathy for these guys. The girls see a cash cow and would be crazy not to take advantage of it.
Cheers. G.
Goes both ways and same the world over. Think Anna Nicole Smith and Summers. I was with a group of young people in the US recently. One of the guys had a bitchy beautiful gold digger wife. I felt sad for the guy because she was looking at climbing into richer greener pastures. Another cute blond girl was married to a red neck who probably makes a tenth of what she makes.
A few years ago, a US politician divorced his crazy rich Asian wife and sued for Alimony.
A rich professional woman could not wait for the super rich separated husband to die so she could take over some of his property and manipulate the kids who inherited the husband's business.
When I was younger, waitresses, nannies, au pairs, shop assistants were such easy targets. The girls' mental calculator figures out where your are from and your potential net worth very rapidly. It is like in Batman, Cat woman's line to Bruce about what he does for a living. Girls ask that all the time to size up your wallet.
It is the same the world over. Don't let color or location blind you.
A lot of guys think they can go to the Philippines and meet a beautiful, loyal wife who may be much younger than them. Retired guys literally have 20 somethings throwing themselves at them. And in most cases it would be impossible to meet such a a girl in western countries; they wouldn't even give you a second glance. And in fact it is possible to find a beautiful, loyal, young wife in Ph.
But just remember: In 99% of cases the girls are poor, and their families are poor too. Which means that you, as the relatively wealthy foreigner will be the person they come to when they need help. It doesn't matter if they are a bargirl, "Normal" girl, etc. Unless they are from the Filipino elite then they are relatively poor. (And elite Pinays don't throw themselves at working class foreigners).
I just read a story from a guy married to a Pinay. He gave long, long list of all the problems her family had (Brother drowned in a shipwreck, sister got cancer, etc, etc) and he bankrolled them all, to the tune of about $150 k US..
GoodEnough
03-05-21, 07:34
I'm lost here. Why is her family's misfortune his problem?
Guys that loose $150 K only do so because they allow the out flow. Pay the "help" out of her bank account / allowance / part time job and see how long it continues.
Sorry, but I have absolutely no sympathy for these guys. The girls see a cash cow and would be crazy not to take advantage of it.
Cheers. G.Those of us who live here, and others who have spent significant time here have heard and sometimes witnessed variations on this theme for years. And I'm with G; if the infatuation and ability for self-delusion of these suckers is so all-encompassing that they fall for the endless attempts to part them from their money, then the fault is their own. I cannot count the number of naïfs I've tried to warn, mostly in vain, of what was happening to them or, in some cases, what was likely to happen to them. The standard response, invariably is: "I know what you're saying but she is different. " Of course, she never is. The overarching reason for the continued success of the perpetual scam is that most guys who come here seeking "love," are fishing in the wrong pool. But again, I've made this argument for years, and to date no one has paid any attention and I'm now at the point that I no longer try to help those heading for disaster to avert it.
GE.
Yeah, I'm a sucker too. When I spend too much time in PI, I fall into the lets help the girl mentality. Don't affect me when its only 1-2 week trip but when its a month or more, then guessing could be out of boredom.
The last girl I met was a part time freelancer with a 2 yr old girl. She was a very nice person. Not a harden pro. Use to meet up one a week then she wanted to meet more. I asked why as she always insisted she didn't have time to come out more often when I wanted her. She said her daughter has asthma and she was desperate for hospital bills and medicine. She was always trying to be as cheerful as possible when she was with me but always sad and worried just the same.
I tried not to be too sympathetic but it does affect me the longer you know them. I also tried not to let money be an issue but also do find myself giving her a little more than what we agreed on. There was once when she came over and both just got undressed and her phone rang. She started crying as Neighbor said her daughter was having another asthma attack. She got dressed and wanted to leave right away, didn't ask me for any money even though she had to pay transport to visit me. She ran out of my hotel and I caught up to her in the street. I gave her transport money along with what I usually give her for ST and little extra. So she went away with my money and I got absolutely nothing out of it. Yeah, like a said, I'm a sucker too.
Cheers.
Yeah, like a said, I'm a sucker too.
Cheers.You are probably a lot like me. I like to be generous but despise being ripped off.
You are probably a lot like me. I like to be generous but despise being ripped off.ID agree. There is a huge difference between being generous or charitable to those legitimately in need and an absolute sucker. Arguements could even be made that the monger could receive a couple of thousand pesos value in performance or karma. The guy below is never going to see $150 K in value from his pussy for hire.
SinfullyKorean
03-05-21, 23:47
Yeah, I'm a sucker too. When I spend too much time in PI, I fall into the lets help the girl mentality. Don't affect me when its only 1-2 week trip but when its a month or more, then guessing could be out of boredom.
The last girl I met was a part time freelancer with a 2 yr old girl. She was a very nice person. Not a harden pro. Use to meet up one a week then she wanted to meet more. I asked why as she always insisted she didn't have time to come out more often when I wanted her. She said her daughter has asthma and she was desperate for hospital bills and medicine. She was always trying to be as cheerful as possible when she was with me but always sad and worried just the same.
I tried not to be too sympathetic but it does affect me the longer you know them. I also tried not to let money be an issue but also do find myself giving her a little more than what we agreed on. There was once when she came over and both just got undressed and her phone rang. She started crying as Neighbor said her daughter was having another asthma attack. She got dressed and wanted to leave right away, didn't ask me for any money even though she had to pay transport to visit me. She ran out of my hotel and I caught up to her in the street. I gave her transport money along with what I usually give her for ST and little extra. So she went away with my money and I got absolutely nothing out of it. Yeah, like a said, I'm a sucker too.
Cheers.There's a HUGE difference between supporting someone and their family vs helping someone with a bit. Hopefully, that FL doesn't expect you to be doing this on a regular basis. And you gave it to her out of the goodness of your heart. Even without that money, it won't affect you that much. It's nice to be generous, as long as you're not being taken advantage of. I'd like to think that if I was in a similar situation, I'd do the same thing (I probably would've paid for transport + 50% of ST), as long as it didn't turn into a habit.
It's not even a matter of expecting something in return. Most of us are blessed to be in a good situation. Sharing a small sliver of that good fortune to people who don't expect it, but are grateful for it, just makes you a good human being.
If she starts expecting handouts, shows she's not grateful, or expects more dump her. World's too big to get hung up on a single ungrateful pussy.
Its all about denial and "suspending disbelief" on the part of the guy. I can't blame the girl for trying to raise some cash.
If one truely believes he is someone that young filipinas find attractive and fun to be with then it should not be difficult to hook up with a single filipina in the USA where she has her own money and the playing field is level. If that can't be achieved then you may need to work on some self improvement so you can compete.
I advise against confusing sex tourism with romance.
A lot of guys think they can go to the Philippines and meet a beautiful, loyal wife who may be much younger than them. Retired guys literally have 20 somethings throwing themselves at them. And in most cases it would be impossible to meet such a a girl in western countries; they wouldn't even give you a second glance. And in fact it is possible to find a beautiful, loyal, young wife in Ph.
But just remember: In 99% of cases the girls are poor, and their families are poor too. Which means that you, as the relatively wealthy foreigner will be the person they come to when they need help. It doesn't matter if they are a bargirl, "Normal" girl, etc. Unless they are from the Filipino elite then they are relatively poor. (And elite Pinays don't throw themselves at working class foreigners).
I just read a story from a guy married to a Pinay. He gave long, long list of all the problems her family had (Brother drowned in a shipwreck, sister got cancer, etc, etc) and he bankrolled them all, to the tune of about $150 k US.
How many of us that have been married to western women had to bail out their family members? In my case, not only was it zero, her family actually gave money to my family and for my kids education. So I was net positive.
So its not surprising the Pinay will be loyal when you are a walking ATM who will solve all the financial problems of her tribe. Just see how long she stays with you if you are broke, especially if she already got her green card or whatever.
So I'm not saying don't marry a Pinay; I'm just saying just understand what you are getting yourself into. As I said, if something looks too good to be true, it probably is.
There's a HUGE difference between supporting someone and their family vs helping someone with a bit. Hopefully, that FL doesn't expect you to be doing this on a regular basis. .The girl with the asthma daughter never hit me for support. But I lost contact with her as I assume she either lost her phone or something else as I can't contact her anymore (her number no longer in service).
But I have been asked many times from various girls I've banged before for handouts. Worse now with the Pandemic as most can't find customers and can't find work as many places either downsized or closed.
I have ignored most request Over the past year and many have already blocked me. Too bad though as many were cute and somewhat decent performers.
The girl with the asthma daughter never hit me for support. But I lost contact with her as I assume she either lost her phone or something else as I can't contact her anymore (her number no longer in service).
But I have been asked many times from various girls I've banged before for handouts. Worse now with the Pandemic as most can't find customers and can't find work as many places either downsized or closed.
I have ignored most request Over the past year and many have already blocked me. Too bad though as many were cute and somewhat decent performers.All girls wants money. Now it is due to pandemic. Other times it is typhoon, Buffalo sick, parents sick, hungry, lost job, my cousin once removed need operation well you get my drift. Reason lists are endless.
Need to navigate through all this. Just because they blocked you does not mean anything. If you have other means of communication and you are on the ground they will jump into your bed.
All girls wants money. Now it is due to pandemic. Other times it is typhoon, Buffalo sick, parents sick, hungry, lost job, my cousin once removed need operation well you get my drift. Reason lists are endless.....You guys seem to have hot penises but cold hearts. I can't be like that. Some girls will scam, others will have shit happen to them. I will decide what to do depending on the circumstances. The cash I part with will not hurt me in any way. I'd rather be scammed in that manner than to be hard-hearted.
MutantChicken
03-14-21, 17:01
You guys seem to have hot penises but cold hearts. I can't be like that. Some girls will scam, others will have shit happen to them. I will decide what to do depending on the circumstances. The cash I part with will not hurt me in any way. I'd rather be scammed in that manner than to be hard-hearted.More power to you, and I truly wish, your generosity was genuine and boundless. But I wonder would you be as generous if there wasn't the attached prospect / hope of fucking the ladies you are generous to. I read so many post chiding those of us who pay the minimum or "local price", whether it be 500-1000-2000, claiming we are stingy and how much it is cheaper than Sydney / Vancouver / Timbuktu, as there you cannot get a pretty lady for 200-300 etc so we should be more than happy to pay much closer to the Syd / Van price, but in response when asked if their generosity extends to the lady at the foodcart, or the hotel maid or the tuktuk driver do they also try and pay prices closer to the home price, so as to be more socially equitable they always avoid answering.
Personally if you want to be generous with your money just walk out your hotel door, see little kids drinking from pools of water on Manila walkways, see your jeepney drivers tin shack huts, giving them money will ensure you are helping someone in genuine need, rather than giving money some to girl you met online who is crying poor (genuine or not is not totally unknown). ID rather know I wasn't being scammed and giving money to the genuine poor rather risk being scammed by a girls who I think may one day give me the pussy in gratitude.
SinfullyKorean
03-15-21, 00:36
More power to you, and I truly wish, your generosity was genuine and boundless. But I wonder would you be as generous if there wasn't the attached prospect / hope of fucking the ladies you are generous to. I read so many post chiding those of us who pay the minimum or "local price", whether it be 500-1000-2000, claiming we are stingy and how much it is cheaper than Sydney / Vancouver / Timbuktu, as there you cannot get a pretty lady for 200-300 etc so we should be more than happy to pay much closer to the Syd / Van price, but in response when asked if their generosity extends to the lady at the foodcart, or the hotel maid or the tuktuk driver do they also try and pay prices closer to the home price, so as to be more socially equitable they always avoid answering.
Personally if you want to be generous with your money just walk out your hotel door, see little kids drinking from pools of water on Manila walkways, see your jeepney drivers tin shack huts, giving them money will ensure you are helping someone in genuine need, rather than giving money some to girl you met online who is crying poor (genuine or not is not totally unknown). ID rather know I wasn't being scammed and giving money to the genuine poor rather risk being scammed by a girls who I think may one day give me the pussy in gratitude."Personally. ". Yes, you do you. I don't think anyone here's claiming to be altruistic. Nobody's taking a holier than thou stance here, except people calling them out.
Everyone here's here for 1 thing, and that's to get laid. So should it surprise you to hear that a guy's giving some money to a prostitute to get better service? Is it his primary motive for giving money to them? Is it his secondary? Does it matter?
How about you spend money as you see fit and I'll spend mine the way I want to?
MutantChicken
03-15-21, 02:17
"Personally. ". Yes, you do you. I don't think anyone here's claiming to be altruistic. Nobody's taking a holier than thou stance here, except people calling them out.
Everyone here's here for 1 thing, and that's to get laid. So should it surprise you to hear that a guy's giving some money to a prostitute to get better service? Is it his primary motive for giving money to them? Is it his secondary? Does it matter?
How about you spend money as you see fit and I'll spend mine the way I want to?Great, but this is where I have a issue.
If you aren't giving money away altruistically, where do you get off chiding others for "having a hot penis and a cold heart", your heart isn't any warmer when you give money with a ulterior motive, if anything its worse because you are being duplicitous and manipulative. Then to top it off you say "How about you spend money as you see fit and I'll spend mine the way I want to?" What happened to the first part of me paying how I want to.
What's equally humorous, is I recall you asking on the Vietnam thread how much it would cost to live there when you get regular access to 10 dollar spinner 19 yr old hotties posted on the picture thread, which by implication the next question would be how to access these bargain cuties. Notice how across the boards no one is sharing any really good intel how to find bargains and where to find gems? Well the answer may have something to do with guys saying its their money and they can pay as they please at the same time they are asking for good actionable intel for low prices attractive women. Then after over paying calling other cheap Charlie as a justification for overpaying.
This is the reason I will remain tight lipped about a manila massage parlour where FS is available with these girls for 2500, that way Ill pay what I please, and you can go to Kojax etc and pay 6000 for similar girls then claim you can pay how you want to.
FYI not my pics I'm not in country but I'm tight with many parlour mamasons who whatsapp / viber me pics if their current lineup.
Bottom line. We are ALL members of ISG for ONE purpose and ONE purpose only.
To find reliable intel on where to spend our money for our hobby. And while we're at it, to get it for as cheaply (local rates) as possible so we could get it at reasonable price and walk away happy and not feel cheated.
That's my take on this discussion.
Cheers.
Bottom line. We are ALL members of ISG for ONE purpose and ONE purpose only.
To find reliable intel on where to spend our money for our hobby. And while we're at it, to get it for as cheaply (local rates) as possible so we could get it at reasonable price and walk away happy and not feel cheated.
That's my take on this discussion.
Cheers.Quite a few members purpose are here to tell us how much to pay, when to pay and who to pay. How much to tip.
Quite a few members purpose are here to tell us how much to pay, when to pay and who to pay. How much to tip.The members who tell others how much to pay are not too well endowed financially and think that other members paying what they think is too much will cause an increase in prices. All human beings seek happiness and my bottom line is to do whatever makes you happy as long as you are not harming others.
The members who tell others how much to pay are not too well endowed financially and think that other members paying what they think is too much will cause an increase in prices. All human beings seek happiness and my bottom line is to do whatever makes you happy as long as you are not harming others.What is often forgotten is that John's often fit into different groups and these are able and willing to pay different rates. A guy in town for 2 days business who wants to get laid tonight views everything completely differently to a Resident who can meet the girl when ever mutually convenient. Of course, the girls recognise this and present themselves at various price points accordingly.
It's not unusual for a 5000 p K-girl to make a quick phone call and accept 500 p from a local dive master when the rent is due.
I don't see any shame in being in either category.
What is often forgotten is that John's often fit into different groups and these are able and willing to pay different rates. A guy in town for 2 days business who wants to get laid tonight views everything completely differently to a Resident who can meet the girl when ever mutually convenient. Of course, the girls recognise this and present themselves at various price points accordingly.
It's not unusual for a 5000 p K-girl to make a quick phone call and accept 500 p from a local dive master when the rent is due.
I don't see any shame in being in either category.There should be no shame in it. What I take issue with is, is the condescending tone with which the board members who pay more use against the board members who pay less. And I'm with mutant chicken on this one. It's usually the guys who pay more who have no patience to do any of their own ground work or even read the forums who come to the board and ask the members who pay less where to go to find hot women. Why even help these types of people? I know MutantChickens playground is Vietnam which continues to be a great place for high quality / price ratios, but its a tough place to crack because not as much info is shared. Good for him. I don't see any incentive for people like MutantChicken who knows the scene there to help people who are going to come in and ruin the game for others.
MutantChicken
03-18-21, 15:25
There should be no shame in it. What I take issue with is, is the condescending tone with which the board members who pay more use against the board members who pay less. And I'm with mutant chicken on this one. It's usually the guys who pay more who have no patience to do any of their own ground work or even read the forums who come to the board and ask the members who pay less where to go to find hot women. Why even help these types of people? I know MutantChickens playground is Vietnam which continues to be a great place for high quality / price ratios, but its a tough place to crack because not as much info is shared. Good for him. I don't see any incentive for people like MutantChicken who knows the scene there to help people who are going to come in and ruin the game for others.Since my name was mentioned I'll add another 2 cents worth of opinion. Firstly someone has to have failed maths, if they think someone paying 1500p as opposed to say for example 3000p (a mere difference of 30 dollars, calculated over the average of say 1 girl a day over 2 weeks vacation) = 420 x 2-3 trips a year = max 1500. So this figure of 1500 per annum translates to the former being "less financially endowed" than the latter?
I put it forward, that the guy paying 1500, refuses to be charged a surcharge, that is more than likely due to be old, fat, clueless, simpering or just being a bad negotiator. Just like if you go into a car dealership and negotiate 10 k off the car, or you hire a plumber and negotiate 1 k off the job price, bargaining has nothing to do whether you can afford it or not is just simply good smart business. Similarly you wouldn't go into mcD and order a 1 dollar burger and then pay 20 dollars just because you can afford it.
Someone is now going to say how a girl isn't a burger or isn't a car and so the same comparisons can't be made, well my answer is these girls survived well before I turned up, they were happy to fuck their local boyfriends for free, they were happy to accept 500 p from the locals for some boom boom or the dive master when bills were due, and they were happy with my 1000 p given the repeats available to me. Any more excuses put forth to counter my points are pure simpering.
I challenge anyone to find posts of mine where I begrudged someone else paying more than me, what I have posted was xyz was available for less, I pointed out the hypocrisy of guys who says girls should be paid more due to some social justice equality BS, when they were unwilling to pay more to locals who weren't available for them to fuck and lastly I posted directly to guys like Blanq and Sinfullykorean, that if they say its their own money and they can pay as they please then why ask questions like how much its costs to live in xyz when you you have the attitude that you will pay as you please etc so if it costs me 1000 p and you will pay as you please how is my budget relevant to you, or why lament that "they wish people would just come here and share good intel".
Yeah. I wish that too. But all RR does is talk down other mongers on their choice of girls and the prices they pay. And this is across threads. Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand. Indonesia. You name it. Just wish people would share meaningful intelligence rather than simply play Monday morning quarterback. Nothing personal against RR, but the condescending narrative gets tiring.So you tell everyone its your money and you can pay what you want and then you say why don't people share meaningful intel because you are not happy with the overpriced and mercenary women available
And we are now left with a half-ass night life with deplorable places like Ipanema when over the hill hookers demand $200 for ST. Sure, the girls are Brix are decidedly better looking and carry themselves well. But with a price tag of over $400 simply does not cut ice with me. Did I tell you about the uber hot chicks at Karaoke joints around town? You might have to drop $1000 just to get started with a girl. Try China Doll if interested.
Jaishankararyan
03-19-21, 23:57
Well said 👏128079;128079;.
Bottom line. We are ALL members of ISG for ONE purpose and ONE purpose only.
To find reliable intel on where to spend our money for our hobby. And while we're at it, to get it for as cheaply (local rates) as possible so we could get it at reasonable price and walk away happy and not feel cheated.
That's my take on this discussion.
Cheers.
SinfullyKorean
03-20-21, 10:19
I challenge anyone to find posts of mine where I begrudged someone else paying more than me, what I have posted was xyz was available for less, I pointed out the hypocrisy of guys who says girls should be paid more due to some social justice equality BS, when they were unwilling to pay more to locals who weren't available for them to fuck and lastly I posted directly to guys like Blanq and Sinfullykorean, that if they say its their own money and they can pay as they please then why ask questions like how much its costs to live in xyz when you you have the attitude that you will pay as you please etc so if it costs me 1000 p and you will pay as you please how is my budget relevant to you, or why lament that "they wish people would just come here and share good intel".I'm not quite sure what you're insinuating. I try to put in my DD and RTFF. Sometimes, it's hard to sift through all the BS that goes on and find the relevant info. I appreciate the help when it's given and call out the bullshit from people who aren't helpful.
I've been asking about costs of hobbying and living as a monger in various forums because I'm getting ready to retire. I don't think I've ever said "it's my money, I'll do as I please. " Especially to someone who's trying to be helpful. When I ask about the cost of living, it's to maximize my retirement funds.
Honestly, I was curious as to what you're talking about, so I went back through all my post history and I don't think I've ever posted anything like that after inquiring about living costs.
The one time you might be alluding to is when I made my first trip out to Vietnam 2 years ago on a 3 day trip. I tried the hot tocs, blow job bars, nightclubs, massage shops, etc in the short 3 days. If I stayed longer, as I'm planning on doing in the future, I'll try much harder to play the longer and cheaper game. But I'm sure you can understand the difference in the mindset of a weekend warrior vs a retiree? Also, if it really is from my post 2 years ago. Maybe it's time to let go?
Pinaypounder
03-24-21, 00:16
More power to you, and I truly wish, your generosity was genuine and boundless. But I wonder would you be as generous if there wasn't the attached prospect / hope of fucking the ladies you are generous to. I read so many post chiding those of us who pay the minimum or "local price", whether it be 500-1000-2000, claiming we are stingy and how much it is cheaper than Sydney / Vancouver / Timbuktu, as there you cannot get a pretty lady for 200-300 etc so we should be more than happy to pay much closer to the Syd / Van price, but in response when asked if their generosity extends to the lady at the foodcart, or the hotel maid or the tuktuk driver do they also try and pay prices closer to the home price, so as to be more socially equitable they always avoid answering.
Personally if you want to be generous with your money just walk out your hotel door, see little kids drinking from pools of water on Manila walkways, see your jeepney drivers tin shack huts, giving them money will ensure you are helping someone in genuine need, rather than giving money some to girl you met online who is crying poor (genuine or not is not totally unknown). ID rather know I wasn't being scammed and giving money to the genuine poor rather risk being scammed by a girls who I think may one day give me the pussy in gratitude.I agree 1000% lots of good people can use a hand up in the Philippines.
99% of us here are in pursuit of good pussy are proper prices.
Overpaying a girl ensures her family gets 5% while she gets a new Ipad, iphone another pair of shoes and the ability to brag to her friends while making it a bit more difficult for the rest of us. You ain't doing nothing good but satisfying your own ego that you can. IF you can then give to a church.
The girls do have the ability to separate the over payers from the other guys. Personally I always go with being nice and being clean, being lucid or entirely sober and treating them well as opposed to bribing them.
Look back at your professional lives did you ever enjoy being bribed or forced? Most humans do things willingly and we all justify our actions to get things to get what we want, I go further and do my best to make it enjoyable. As proffered above many freebies, genuine actual freebies have found me and I accept them as I "earned" them and no I would never take from a poor person.
The best story of this was in Angeles a few years back I met a guy who liked to watch others fuck his crush. And he paid to rent the crush. OF course I thought this was fantastic and I fucked his favorite 75 lb pro well one evening.
She stayed the night (he left) I bought her breakfast and treated her like a proper human being. The rest of that trip she would arrive at my door after work 2 - 4 am (no bidding or requests on my part) and spend the night and have sex with me like friends or maybe for a free 100 peso breakfast I guess. We became "friends" but then a rich suitor took her.
Given the opportunity and we all have that opportunity be nice.
I never overpay girls for sex, but I do give on the streets. I tip cabbies (their actual costs there fuel car taxes are the same as we have here but they cost a fraction) but never overpay their no meter BS. I do buy things from the street vendors, tip good hotel staff but again I never over pay for anything.
Easy to do the "right" thing. Every girl I fucked chose to be there, every Girl! And almost all had a good time because I tried to make it a good time. I think 7 to 10 times there was no connection or they lied so they got 2 - 500 pesos and shown the door, never ever ever Pay for shit service ever and if they provide as promised always pay.
Now if you are an unwashed, chain smoking, halitosis breathing alcoholic well then likely you need to pay more and rightfully so that is obvious. But do it willingly as you are hideous to be with at least be honest about that and thank god you can get laid at all.
Sex is my religion its something I love and something I want to do with willing participants so that it is even better, I love making them cum and love when they want more.
If I see trouble I help anyone that is being forced against their will and have.
I think its pretty easy to be a good guy. Spreading good karma begets good karma. Easy to make almost all people smile there other than just bargirls.
And my final judgmental point as I know several families there across the economic spectrum. Don't fucking meet the parents of someone you have no interest in. It is embarrassing for all parties. Trust me good people don't care that you are "rich and not Filipino". No one needs that karma.
PP.
.... I don't think I've ever said "it's my money, I'll do as I please. "....Why not? Wouldn't you like to pay a Filipina hooker US $1000 for a night's service a piss off so many guys on this board?
Why not? Wouldn't you like to pay a Filipina hooker US $1000 for a night's service a piss off so many guys on this board?I do as I please with my money. I earned it. I spend it. If I don't have enough then I go earn more.
Couldn’t care what someone feels about it.
MutantChicken
03-25-21, 00:28
Why not? Wouldn't you like to pay a Filipina hooker US $1000 for a night's service a piss off so many guys on this board?Someone definitely is overestimating their impact on others, you aren't anything special that people would get pissed off over, no more so than a fly would. The only thing I would have been pissed about was knowing that my tax was used to to fund a education system that produces grown ass man like you who are unable to do simple addition and multiplication, something that by 12 yrs of age I and many others were experts.
Why not? Wouldn't you like to pay a Filipina hooker US $1000 for a night's service a piss off so many guys on this board?How would other guys find out? I've never been quoted and definitely never paid 50 k but if I did, I would be too embarrassed to go around bragging about it.
Most girls regard gross over payers as gullible desperates, ripe to be ripped off further. Providing awesome or additional services is the last thing they would be thinking. I'd suggest most mongers would think the same should someone gloat about it. Either that or give her a call and book a 1000 p hook up after she has blown all the money. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Why not? Wouldn't you like to pay a Filipina hooker US $1000 for a night's service a piss off so many guys on this board?See what I mean? I have not even done it and have pissed off two mongers already.
Personally I don't care what anyone else does as long as it does not impact me either directly or indirectly.
People overpaying makes it harder for the rest of us to get the old prices, there will be a effect on prices. Once raised they will never come down.
If the going rate is 1500 and some guy comes along and pays 3000 then that girl brags about it and her friends want to be able to brag about getting 3500 and so on.
Now the guy who overpays should be educated about the going rate and how that impacts the rest of us over the long term.
I always want to be treated decently and believe that the best way is to treat people decently first. My target is not the pro and semi pros but the regular girls wanting to make a little extra. I currently have a stable of regular girls, in the province where I am, and give 1000 each visit. If they have a long bus trip to get here I will top that up with bus fare. If they are within 50 kms or so, I will go pick them up, they love that if they can get it.
That 1000 is per visit. I have one who typically comes for 2 or 3 nights each week and she is happy with the 1000 plus 200 bus fare unless I drive her home. She is the most enthusiastic cock sucker I have ever encountered. She will literally suck me raw if I let her.
OPf course meals etc are all on me, a nice restaurant meal is usually great but they really love it if I cook for them.
I make it clear to all that that is the limit of what they will get from me. A long term regular will perhaps get a little extra in an emergency but it will usually be an advance on future visits.
I do help out some long term regulars in Manila due to pandemic but they understand that it is advances on services not an outright gift. I know I will never het it all back in service but still low cost pussy.
When I have a life in, she will get an allowance, usually 7000 to 10000 per month with the understanding that she has to take care of relatives and family not additional from me. I might help a true emergency but do not consider bail, gambling debs or wanting to open a business an emergency. Medical is about all that would qualify and I will be asking how much others are giving too. Education for a deserving and capable family member could be considered but not some rip off school or tourism management courses. I want to see transcripts and will make tuition payments directly, not hand over cash.
My longer term relationships have almost always ended over a refusal to give additional money on demand.
Personally I don't care what anyone else does as long as it does not impact me either directly or indirectly.
People overpaying makes it harder for the rest of us to get the old prices, there will be a effect on prices. Once raised they will never come down.
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My longer term relationships have almost always ended over a refusal to give additional money on demand.Well said Mr Kabul Guy. I think there is a genuine difference in how money is perceived in the Ph v the West.
West: Wow, she gives great service for P1 k, if I give 3 x that price then I will get 3 times the service.
Perceived by her: This guy is an easy touch for extra cash.
Ph: Wow, that guy gave me P1 k for sex which I give away for free / much less to others. He will easily pay P10 k for other random things.
Perceived by me: Fuckoff, I'm paying for sex not other shit.
Confidently handling the monetary different perceptions will allow for a long term life in Ph. There are genuine girls with acceptable attitudes but we also have to be fast to dump the others.
When I have a life in, she will get an allowance, usually 7000 to 10000 per month with the understanding that she has to take care of relatives and family not additional from me. I might help a true emergency but do not consider bail, gambling debs or wanting to open a business an emergency. Medical is about all that would qualify and I will be asking how much others are giving too. Education for a deserving and capable family member could be considered but not some rip off school or tourism management courses. I want to see transcripts and will make tuition payments directly, not hand over cash.
My longer term relationships have almost always ended over a refusal to give additional money on demand.A lesson I had to learn the hard way but glad I did, back in the day while in the Navy I had a Pinay girlfriend (who was still other peoples girlfriend too) and we got into a massive argument about going forward when she said I had to turn over my pay to her and get my allowance. I said nope not going to happen and I got this "the woman is in charge of the household income in my culture, etc" and I said don't matter to me. Lights will be on, food in the kitchen and some savings will hopefully be had but I'm not turning my hard earned scratch over to someone to handle. Plus while out at sea on deployment I would have had to pay for my meals monthly (Officers had to pay each month their meal fees) and of course she blew up saying all I wanted to do was spend it on booze and women (true). Glad I went my own way since even back then she was sending back money from her then husband / boyfriends to support for some niece's tuition, medical bills, or whatever.
I've had a few before the COVID lockdown in Singapore that were some of my kept ladies that I like to see and I don't mind paying for their services, but while laying up and she gets a phone from Otay that she needs to pay her nieces tuition I let them know the night is still young and you may want to go back out to work since I'm not the one for taking care of extended family just because.
Same thing today, with some of my internet women. I will send a few bucks but I expect something in return and one sends some pretty decent selfies and movies and IMO deserves a tip or two. But some have gotten lazy these days by sending you a blurry photo and they claim it's them and expect you to drop coin on them.
Money will make or break any type of relationship it seems. It's not that I'm against giving to play, but not so much for the extended family to mooch off me while there may be able bodied people able to put in a days work but don't want to.
MutantChicken
04-05-21, 13:40
Same thing today, with some of my internet women. I will send a few bucks but I expect something in return and one sends some pretty decent selfies and movies and IMO deserves a tip or two. But some have gotten lazy these days by sending you a blurry photo and they claim it's them and expect you to drop coin on them.
Money will make or break any type of relationship it seems. It's not that I'm against giving to play, but not so much for the extended family to mooch off me while there may be able bodied people able to put in a days work but don't want to.Some would argue getting a few naked selfies is not getting anything in return. Likewise some lonely old man living in Alaska being able to talk to his Pinoy "girlfriend" who he as supported for the last 5 yrs, that little bit of human contact so he can continue his fantasy is well worth the return. To me both activities "enables" these women to try and get money by other ways, ways I would call manipulative to earn money rather than direct fucking. This behavior of men is what allows 40 yr old women to make 4 k usd selling farting vids, or 40 yr old pinoys to make a decent income posting old naked selfies on their alua pages or sending it to horny old men.
I'm still receiving a lot more requests for load than cold hard cash. I haven't investigated but expect the girls are onselling these or returning to the service providers. Most get offended when I say I don't send cash to unknown girls, saying they asked for load not cash.
I'd agree that naked selfies are not something I would pay for. Normally I'm in country pretty frequently so access to the real thing is easy. I receive a small amount free and unsolicited anyway Even at home there is unlimited access to free pina porn. I guess it's more attractive for guys that will never arrive.
Enjoy. G.
Chocha Monger
04-05-21, 23:32
A lesson I had to learn the hard way but glad I did, back in the day while in the Navy I had a Pinay girlfriend (who was still other peoples girlfriend too) and we got into a massive argument about going forward when she said I had to turn over my pay to her and get my allowance. I said nope not going to happen and I got this "the woman is in charge of the household income in my culture, etc" and I said don't matter to me. Lights will be on, food in the kitchen and some savings will hopefully be had but I'm not turning my hard earned scratch over to someone to handle. Plus while out at sea on deployment I would have had to pay for my meals monthly (Officers had to pay each month their meal fees) and of course she blew up saying all I wanted to do was spend it on booze and women (true). Glad I went my own way since even back then she was sending back money from her then husband / boyfriends to support for some niece's tuition, medical bills, or whatever.I am surprised that you did not agree to hand over your salary to her as part of the marriage. No Filipina wife is happy unless her foreigner husband hands over his income and financial accounts to her. As she said, it is part of her culture. When you refused to trust her with your salary and bank accounts, she did not see any point in proceeding with the marriage. After all, she can get unlimited squid dick free at any naval port.
Most married expat mongers hand over all of their income to their Filipina wife and she puts them on a small allowance after dividing it up with the extended family. Her mama and papa get the biggest cut of the pork. They will brag to the whole village that you have a big heart. Many expat mongers on here will tell you that they are happier than a pig in shit with this arrangement, as it keeps their LBFM sucking their aged marshmallows.
I am surprised that you did not agree to hand over your salary to her as part of the marriage. No Filipina wife is happy unless her foreigner husband hands over his income and financial accounts to her. As she said, it is part of her culture. When you refused to trust her with your salary and bank accounts, she did not see any point in proceeding with the marriage. After all, she can get unlimited squid dick free at any naval port.
Most married expat mongers hand over all of their income to their Filipina wife and she puts them on a small allowance after dividing it up with the extended family. Her mama and papa get the biggest cut of the pork. They will brag to the whole village that you have a big heart. Many expat mongers on here will tell you that they are happier than a pig in shit with this arrangement, as it keeps their LBFM sucking their aged marshmallows.Not just Pinays. I'm married to a Japanese and some of our biggest arguments have been over money. But I put my foot down a long time ago on the advice of one of my old Captains who was married for almost 20 years to an American woman who divorced him and now gets half his retirement. Keep the money separate. Have a joint account which you both contribute and keep some for yourself. I do this, with me being the only contributor to the joint account but I don't mind since I leave myself more than I need and will adjust my personal money to ensure that the family is first. I've found that with most Eastern women, money (or who controls) is more on their minds than one would think. Wife's family has their own money and I am sure that when it is dispersed out, I'm not going to be told how much it is and really don't care. I've made it this far without their help and will continue to do so.
But some of the stories I have seen guys go through with handing financial control over to the wife would be worse than any horror story you have ever heard or seen. Case in point, I knew of a guy who gave his wife (a Japanese woman who was certified crazy) access to his military pay account so she could actually see his pay and his leave balances and would hound him at every step on when she saw something she didn't like. We went on temporary duty once, and when we got back she came to the base and argued with him in front of us and refused to drive him home because he had lost a receipt to Burger King that we had lunch at one day and she was upset, her thinking that he was spending it on strippers. When I told him he needed to get control and open up a private account he said she had access to his pay account and would find out. Don't want to get into the weeds on how I told him he could overcome this, but I guess he was just resigned to bring his Japanese wife into RWML and this was the cost he had to pay.
PedroMorales
04-06-21, 12:37
I am surprised that you did not agree to hand over your salary to her as part of the marriage...... Her mama and papa get the biggest cut of the pork.Does the trike driver not get a cut?
WestCoast1
04-12-21, 09:14
NCR has moved into a slightly less-restrictive lockdown starting today:
https://www.cnn.ph/news/2021/4/12/MECQ-guidelines-April-2021-Metro-Manila.html
From the article:
Metro Manila (CNN Philippines, April 12) With the announcement of the shift of Metro Manila and several provinces to modified enhanced community quarantine or MECQ starting April 12, confusion also ensued because of the national government's ever-changing guidelines.
SNIP
For now, what is clear is Metro Manila will impose a unified curfew hour from 8 p.m. to 5 a.m. Authorized persons outside of residence are exempted from the curfew.
Curfew hours in Cavite will be from 10 p.m. to 4:30 a.m.
Outdoor dine-in with 50% capacity is allowed as long as there are acrylic dividers and diners are seated diagonally, while dining inside restaurants is not allowed. Restaurants can also accommodate takeout orders.
Public transportation will remain limited to authorized persons outside of residence during the imposition of MECQ.
Escort Fan
04-19-21, 04:06
How would other guys find out? I've never been quoted and definitely never paid 50 k but if I did, I would be too embarrassed to go around bragging about it..In Manila booking with models / car show girls / TV stars etc, at 50 K is a reality. Its a market just like 5/10 K USD / night girls are a market in NYC.
The funny part is that none of the girls client are westerners.
It's mostly rich locals who are willing to pay a lot for beauty trades that most western wouldn't even identify or care for, and a few Chinese / Koreans that are in the high roller circles at Okada / Sun City.
In Manila booking with models / car show girls / TV stars etc, at 50 K is a reality. Its a market just like 5/10 K USD / night girls are a market in NYC.
The funny part is that none of the girls client are westerners.
It's mostly rich locals who are willing to pay a lot for beauty trades that most western wouldn't even identify or care for, and a few Chinese / Koreans that are in the high roller circles at Okada / Sun City.A valid point. I've often said that despite what we may think mongers operate in the middle of the market: too scared of skid row and not invited to the real party.
Enjoy. G.
Wicked Roger
04-20-21, 06:19
In Manila booking with models / car show girls / TV stars etc, at 50 K is a reality. Its a market just like 5/10 K USD / night girls are a market in NYC.
The funny part is that none of the girls client are westerners.
It's mostly rich locals who are willing to pay a lot for beauty trades that most western wouldn't even identify or care for, and a few Chinese / Koreans that are in the high roller circles at Okada / Sun City.I would agree with that as some politicians, high rolling Koreans / PRCs would easily pay this. Some would ask to see a few girls and choose the ones they fancy, and pay off those not chosen.
I know a few models / playmates and they easily get 25 k pesos a pop. I don't pay that rate as I get 'mates rates' or even cheaper LOL In the end with the lock down there are less punters around and more sellers IMHO so rates may fall.
I'm 40 yr / old white guy from USA.
I started using Tinder and I get a ton of matches. 100's of them and I can chat with the girls through tinder.
Does anyone know when I try meeting these girls when I can finally fly to Manila. Will these girls actually meet up in person? Do I stand a good chance at having sex with them?
2nd question. Since I'm 40 years old, would you say I should go for the 30-39 or the 20-29 year old girls? Who are easier to meet up with and which ones are more fun to date?
Thanks for advice into this.
Albert9989
04-30-21, 00:41
Whao Edward5, looks like you never read any reports in these Phil forums.
All posts are about exactly the questions you ask. In all the forums dedicated to phil.
Strange.
I'm 40 yr / old white guy from USA.
I started using Tinder and I get a ton of matches. 100's of them and I can chat with the girls through tinder.
Does anyone know when I try meeting these girls when I can finally fly to Manila. Will these girls actually meet up in person? Do I stand a good chance at having sex with them?
2nd question. Since I'm 40 years old, would you say I should go for the 30-39 or the 20-29 year old girls? Who are easier to meet up with and which ones are more fun to date?
Thanks for advice into this.Some very general comments about Tinder in PI:
It's typically point and shoot meaning she's available and wants to come around now. Forget about a long distance romance to woo her on arrival.
Attention spans are very short. If you haven't got her number in 3 messages she will move in to other prospects. If you like the look of her, get her number and contact her again when you arrive. Obviously, that assumes she hasn't changed her number in the meantime, a regular occurrence with the girls.
Pretty much anyone on tinder will meet and fuck you. Some may have a preference for age but that's the minority. No need to lie about your circumstances.
Of all the apps, Tinder often has better looking girls, more professional and they charge accordingly. 5 k overnight is normal and an outrageous 15 k isn't unheard of.
Many, many ladyboys there but they rarely hide it and will be honest if you are unsure and ask directly.
As always there are exception so give it a try and see if you like it.
Enjoy. G.
I'm 40 yr / old white guy from USA.
I started using Tinder and I get a ton of matches. 100's of them and I can chat with the girls through tinder.
Does anyone know when I try meeting these girls when I can finally fly to Manila. Will these girls actually meet up in person? Do I stand a good chance at having sex with them?
2nd question. Since I'm 40 years old, would you say I should go for the 30-39 or the 20-29 year old girls? Who are easier to meet up with and which ones are more fun to date?
Thanks for advice into this.Eddie, you are considered young. Go for 18+. Read the forum.
I'm 40 yr / old white guy from USA.
I started using Tinder and I get a ton of matches. 100's of them and I can chat with the girls through tinder.
Does anyone know when I try meeting these girls when I can finally fly to Manila. Will these girls actually meet up in person? Do I stand a good chance at having sex with them?
2nd question. Since I'm 40 years old, would you say I should go for the 30-39 or the 20-29 year old girls? Who are easier to meet up with and which ones are more fun to date?
Thanks for advice into this.Go for the 30+ yo girls. Leave the 20-29 yo for the rest of us.
StudBucket
04-30-21, 16:58
Go for the 30+ yo girls. Leave the 20-29 yo for the rest of us.Please make sure the girls you are chatiing are real. On Tinder, many of the profiles are fake and you may be chatting with a guy or an ugly girl. Never send any money for taxi first as some will ask and never show up. I have a good friend who lives there many years and learned the hard way.
The funner girls are imn the 20-28 year old range, but a few in their early thirties are attractive. The Filipino girls mature early so at 24 they are are already very mature. Also, age for Filipina women does not matter so as long as you act young and fun, you will have a blast.
Of all the apps, Tinder often has better looking girls, more professional and they charge accordingly. 5 k overnight is normal and an outrageous 15 k isn't unheard of.
Enjoy. G.Can you explain why you brought up prices?
I thought the girls I meet on Tinder will not charge me money? Are these not regular girls who are looking for a meetup?
How would I know if they are working girls or not? I mean the matches are random and nobody puts on their tinder that they want money?
Can you explain why you brought up prices?
I thought the girls I meet on Tinder will not charge me money? Are these not regular girls who are looking for a meetup?
How would I know if they are working girls or not? I mean the matches are random and nobody puts on their tinder that they want money?If you are looking for girls that don't ask money, you can just put in your profile that not interested in girls asking money.
So you filter off all the service providers.
If you are looking for girls that don't ask money, you can just put in your profile that not interested in girls asking money.
So you filter off all the service providers.Then that would invoke Life rule #1. No money. No honey.
Can you explain why you brought up prices?
I thought the girls I meet on Tinder will not charge me money? Are these not regular girls who are looking for a meetup?
How would I know if they are working girls or not? I mean the matches are random and nobody puts on their tinder that they want money?Q1/ Because Tinder PI is generally regarded as a meat market.
Q2/ They won't mention money. While you are at home and talking about meeting in 12 months time. When you are in a Makati hotel and want to meet tonight they will. Some will quote a rate for services. Others will need "help" with transport, rent or school fees. There are some regular girls but they are in the minority and money very often becomes a topic of conversation or a direct request.
Q3/. If money is brought up then they are working. If you offer money and they accept then they are working. If you offer money and they refuse they are not working. If you didn't pay and they don't want to return they were working.
I've answered your specific questions but I should also say that regular girls and freebies are readily available. Especially so if your not too old, reasonably presentable and treat the girls well. Interestingly, freebies from working girls after a good time are not unheard of. For regular girls, just treat them like home. Be respectful and entertaining, be prepared to meet her with a friend in tow the first time, accept that sex may or may not need a platonic first date.
Enjoy. G.
KrisMonger
05-01-21, 08:57
Q1/ Because Tinder PI is generally regarded as a meat market.
Q2/ They won't mention money. While you are at home and talking about meeting in 12 months time. When you are in a Makati hotel and want to meet tonight they will. Some will quote a rate for services. Others will need "help" with transport, rent or school fees. There are some regular girls but they are in the minority and money very often becomes a topic of conversation or a direct request.
Q3/. If money is brought up then they are working. If you offer money and they accept then they are working. If you offer money and they refuse they are not working. If you didn't pay and they don't want to return they were working.
I've answered your specific questions but I should also say that regular girls and freebies are readily available. Especially so if your not too old, reasonably presentable and treat the girls well. Interestingly, freebies from working girls after a good time are not unheard of. For regular girls, just treat them like home. Be respectful and entertaining, be prepared to meet her with a friend in tow the first time, accept that sex may or may not need a platonic first date.
Enjoy. G.Good advice. Outside of US (and may be some Western European countries), Tinder is a PPM platform. I have found non-pros (Filipinos on their holiday Sunday in Hong Kong, Univ girls in Manila / Cebu, single moms in Caribbean / South America) as well as working girls (primarily Macau, DR, Puerto Rico, Colombia, Vietnam. Cambodia, Thailand).
Usually the talk track for money comes up either by them asking (pros get to it quickly, non-pros may hint "what are we going to do?
I suggest you read through the forums as there is a wealth of information about approaching etc.
Kris.
non-pros may hint "what are we going to do?.I always like to give them a guilt free way to confirm the situation: "What would you like to do? Relax? Have some fun? Both?" Invariably it's "Both".
At Ed5: "Fun" online always means sex.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
05-02-21, 06:00
I always like to give them a guilt free way to confirm the situation: "What would you like to do? Relax? Have some fun? Both?" Invariably it's "Both".Not me. If they are exhibiting hooker behavior I ask them right out if they are a hooker. And I tell them what made me ask; because only hookers do that shit you are doing.
Funny shit. Laat Sunday afternoon me and my girlfriend were at a restaurant in her small town in Brazil. Some chicks rolled through being led by a butch. One chick had on clear shoes and a redhead chick had on a green dress. There were 2 more chicks as well. I told my girlfriend look at those hookers over there. Why do hookers always wear clear shoes? She said yes, they pretty much look like hookers.
That place closed and we were riding through the next town and saw the chicks get out of an Uber going to a bar. That night when my girlfriend went to sleep, I got on one of Brazil's biggest hooker websites and looked under this small town, suprised they even had listings. One of the 5 ads that I saw was the chick that had the red hair and green dress. I fucking knew it!
Not me. If they are exhibiting hooker behavior I ask them right out if they are a hooker.I've never gotten any benefit from this. Any hard core hooker is going to be blatantly obvious (as you showed above), even to the point of telling me her price before even being asked. Any one on the fence / semipro may be scared off or embarrassed to admit it directly.
Generally speaking, I prefer the semis anyway: less hardened and often more fun. That's why I'm happy to play the game that they are "students" or similar.
Enjoy Brazil. G.
I've never gotten any benefit from this. Any hard core hooker is going to be blatantly obvious (as you showed above), even to the point of telling me her price before even being asked. Any one on the fence / semipro may be scared off or embarrassed to admit it directly.
Generally speaking, I prefer the semis anyway: less hardened and often more fun. That's why I'm happy to play the game that they are "students" or similar.
Enjoy Brazil. G.Even a hardened hooker can fool you as a day old virgin LOL!
WestCoast1
05-22-21, 15:35
Pic taken during the April ECQ in Manila. Various compounds, streets, or blocks are cut off from entry / exit due to new case spikes, often for 24 hours, or several days. QC got hit with lockdowns pretty regularly during that time.
Steve Nash
05-24-21, 00:54
If you are looking for girls that don't ask money, you can just put in your profile that not interested in girls asking money.
So you filter off all the service providers.I agree 100% you must put that you are not looking for Goldiggers and Escorts, I even put it in capital letters so they won't miss it. It does filter most of the goldiggers and escorts. But you will still get afew who you will later on find out they were escorts, but very few mostly the ones who keep in touch with you will be normal girls looking to date and possibly have a relationship with you.
I met alot of freebies on Tinder that way, just be patient, because some of these girls won't meet you right away, so just add them in your fake Facebook account, chat them for afew days and then they are ready to meet. On your Facebook you need to have your real pictures, I have pics of many places I travel before, and I'm always smiling on my pics. The point is that they need to trust you, and that you are real and a good person. You can get hot girls freebies like this, videocalling them is another way to meet them right away.
Just make sure to be honest and tell them that you are not looking for serious relationship after you had the first sex, specially if you notice they are falling for you. You don't want to hurt them because they are good girls looking for serious relationship. Karma will bite your ass if you do that.
Even if the girl is very hot don't be afraid of losing them when you tell them your real intentions. That's why is better if you have hot GF in the side, so you are not afraid of losing the hot girls.
I notice when I was single and I didn't have a hot GF in the side, I will delay telling the hot girls that I wasn't looking for relationship so that I can keep seeing them.
Funny thing is some of the hot girls will still want to meet me even when I told them I have a GF. But very few of them of course. I guess the very few that still wanted to meet me were hoping that I will breakup with my GF and be with them.
But like one of the mongers said, it helps alot if you are young and not too old, I'm 40 and I can easily pass as 29-30 yrs old (when I cut my hair, LOL).
I leave in Nepal and have travelled to Manila couple of times, is one of the best place to my mongering experience. Whenever I have travel towards Pacific, I try to stop by Manila where I have got some of my best experiences in life. It was 12 yrs ago, I was walking in Makati, just popped out of the famous LA Cafe, now Manila bay Cafe, a Taxi driver signalled me towards him and as I leaned down to the window to listen him, "wd you like to try college students Sir?" With a sudden jerk of Fantasy, I dived on his front seat and the driver signalled to keep quiet. He drove me around 25 minutes till we entered a lane around residential area and finally stopped by a 2 storey green coloured house. Upon entering, we were greeted by a man who took me to a hall where I was introduced to a middle aged descent looking lady in the hall. She asked me if I would like to stay at her place or go to my hotel, I said I prefer Hotel and need an overnight company. She just clapped gently and there came around 20 girls in different casual dress ups like students in University and lined up by three sides of the wall. The lady who was bit curvy but nice built, touched my chicks and said, "You are very handsome, all my girls die for you, who you like?" Suddenly, a curvy chick on jeans with beautiful smile popped up and said, "Please take me sir, you are so handsome, I want to stay with you and let you do whatever you like for a month, till I become pregnant, want to have a handsome boy like you" !
I was bit confused and also worried since I had this kind of experience FR the first time however, showed courage and stared on the line 4-5 times, left to right and again back. Girls were all excited to go with me but picked the one, whitish girl with glass who looked most silent and quite. I found her very natural. The lady clapped on me and said, "you know how to choose the best out of girls". I had to pay 7 k pesos FR taking the girl back to my Hotel FR overnight.
Back in hotel, the girl was very sie and this was her 3rd time with a man. She started work to cover her expenses on Nursing studies since her father as Chef's income was not enough. I made her go for shower and there she came back with sparkling whitish body, long hair, sporty legs and flat belley. She was so quiet and followed whatever I said, she had no experience of a blow job but I made her take on mouth and she did just to make me happy. Upon action, black hairy pussy amid whitish skin, she cried a bit when I pressed my dick hard inside, was ok bit later as she started enjoying. That was one of my most memorable moment of mongering. It was good 6-7 minutes of action with a girl who neither moved nor responded but just kept following me in her action and rhythms!
I have been to Manila 4 times after that but never caught by a Taxi driver who CD drive me to similar place. Guys, any of you know what kind of place it is and if they still exist? I would love to plan a holiday specially to visit similar place again!
MutantChicken
05-28-21, 20:10
I have been to Manila 4 times after that but never caught by a Taxi driver who CD drive me to similar place. Guys, any of you know what kind of place it is and if they still exist? I would love to plan a holiday specially to visit similar place again!These are what are called casa or dorms, by locals and guys who have reported this previously on this forum. Your tastes / standards must be considerably lower than mine, as I have been twice, once with a guide and once alone, most recently 3-4 yrs ago. In my opinion and from what I vaguely remember, from the 3 casas I went to, 2 being reasonably near La cafe, the other towards QC near a fire station if I recall correctly. The quality of the girls were very average, I didn't see anyone that really impressed me and I think I was quoted 2 k-2.5 k (alone) and 3 k with a guide. I could be wrong with the exact figure as I recall it was significantly more than prices in AC, and the same as the saunas in manila IE 2-3 k. I didn't ask if the price was for ST or LT as the girls were not attractive enough for me to warrant further investigation.
Two years ago when I was hanging out at some local brothels where the price was 1500-2500ST, I spoke to locals and they told me these casa have all closed down. That could be true or they simply didn't know but anyway, I'm sure if you asked a taxi you will again be guided there for the usual commissions.
I leave in Nepal and have travelled to Manila couple of times, is one of the best place to my mongering experience. Whenever I have travel towards Pacific, I try to stop by Manila where I have got some of my best experiences in life. It was 12 yrs ago, I was walking in Makati, just popped out of the famous LA Cafe, now Manila bay Cafe, a Taxi driver signalled me towards him and as I leaned down to the window to listen him, "wd you like to try college students Sir?" With a sudden jerk of Fantasy, I dived on his front seat and the driver signalled to keep quiet. He drove me around 25 minutes till we entered a lane around residential area and finally stopped by a 2 storey green coloured house. Upon entering, we were greeted by a man who took me to a hall where I was introduced to a middle aged descent looking lady in the hall. She asked me if I would like to stay at her place or go to my hotel, I said I prefer Hotel and need an overnight company. She just clapped gently and there came around 20 girls in different casual dress ups like students in University and lined up by three sides of the wall. The lady who was bit curvy but nice built, touched my chicks and said, "You are very handsome, all my girls die for you, who you like?" Suddenly, a curvy chick on jeans with beautiful smile popped up and said, "Please take me sir, you are so handsome, I want to stay with you and let you do whatever you like for a month, till I become pregnant, want to have a handsome boy like you" !
I have been to Manila 4 times after that but never caught by a Taxi driver who CD drive me to similar place. Guys, any of you know what kind of place it is and if they still exist? I would love to plan a holiday specially to visit similar place again!You are lucky nobody threatened or robbed you. Manila is a big city and there are lots of scams going on. Besides in some cases police are in on it. I have had some taxi drivers / pimps suggest the same. Never had the guts to try. I always look for the safe option. There are plenty of young college girls in dating sites.
WestCoast1
05-28-21, 23:07
SNIP Whenever I have travel towards Pacific, I try to stop by Manila where I have got some of my best experiences in life. It was 12 yrs ago, I was walking in Makati, just popped out of the famous LA Cafe, now Manila bay Cafe, Overall a good (if way previous) field report. Glad you so enjoyed the place. Phils is a place of wonder, oddity, delight, and danger all at the same time.
Regarding LAC. Was rolling down del Pilar in a jeep a few months ago, early evening, past LAC. The lights were on outside and inside, the two front doors were thrown wide open. Inside I noticed two waitresses, no customers. A few evenings later I waltzed by, the doors were again wide open and a handful of customers were inside. The tables are now socially distanced with plexiglass separating customers. Two late-20's gals, possibly working gals, were chatting at one table without food or drink. Several other customers were sitting alone with drink and food. The waitress came over and explained that its 'food only sir', open 7 am-10 pm. Exact same exciting menu as before. The aircon is on with the doors wide open as I passed by sporadically since then.
....I was bit confused and also worried since I had this kind of experience FR the first time however, showed courage and stared on the line 4-5 times, left to right and again back. Girls were all excited to go with me but picked the one, whitish girl with glass who looked most silent and quite. I found her very natural. The lady clapped on me and said, "you know how to choose the best out of girls". I had to pay 7 k pesos FR taking the girl back to my Hotel FR overnight....From your description the girls sound quite delicious especially the one you chose. Seems to be a locals only place, we do know that locals tend to keep the best girls for themselves. Would like to sample similar girls when I next visit the Philippines, whenever that may be.
WestCoast1
06-26-21, 04:25
Grab taxi. Shenanigans.
I grab a lot, sometimes several times a day. For the past 2 months, about 1 in 3 drivers has been pulling a gimmick. You have to pay attention at the start of the ride, to make sure the driver sets the meter at flag fall (p40 still). The normal procedure and fare is usually as such: You get charged the metered fare + the Grab fee (lowest Grab fee is p35, highest I think is p60, depending time of day, traffic congestion, route, etc). At the end of your ride, there should be no question about your final Grab ride fare. If the meter reads p140, and the Grab fee is p35, your final fare (receipt) should be p175. If you ask the driver for a receipt, he must produce one, and it will show the 140 metered fare. In the app, when telling the app your originating point (E) and final destination (F), the grab fee is set, and shown to you. Also a range is shown to you in pesos; example p132 - p178. I was not aware of it until I was chatting a driver, but Grab's promise is to not charge you any less than the minimum (p132) or more than the maximum (p178), regardless of the final fare. I confirmed that with several other drivers.
The gimmick is as such: The driver doesn't set the meter. Normally with the meter running, you should know the final fare by adding the Grab fee to the metered fare (if you remember the Grab fee from the app, which Grab hides quickly from you after you hit the button to order your taxi, and makes it difficult for you to find later -- you must contact Grab and ask what the Grab fee is, as they no longer include it in their emailed receipts). However when you reach your destination you notice the meter is off. You ask the driver what is the metered fare. "It is in your app sir, just look". So you look in your app and the metered fare does not show. You hand your phone to the driver and ask him to show it to you on your app, but he can't. "Sir its in the previous screen when you ordered the taxi. Its gone now". Interesting, I don't remember the final metered fare being possible to know when I ordered your taxi, as you had not yet arrived to pick me up. "No sir, you will see it on your receipt later". Actually guy, I will not, they no longer show the separated fare + grab fee in the receipt*.
My good man, I want to know now what is the metered fare. "OK I will show you". He pulls up his Grab app, which is ready for him to fill in the metered fare. The Grab fee of p35 already shows, and can't be changed. On the bottom, it shows the maximum of the previous range (p132-p178), or p178. He must type into the metered fare box a number (pesos) for himself. He then minimizes the app, and opens his calculator. He subtracts, 178-35 = 143. He goes back to his Grab app and enters 143 into his metered fare. "There sir your meter is p143". Before I could balk he hit the SUBMIT button.
What a ripoff! If traffic is heavy, the normal fare for that route would be about p130-150-ish, and a p143 would be fine. But in light traffic, that meter might run at p110. With Grab fee of 35, that's p145 (not p178). Its more for him in light traffic.
Drivers have given several incorrect excuses for this 'maximizing' his fare biz. One of them: "Sir this is Grab car. The amount is set advance. You pay the maximum the range". He is conflating his 'Grab Taxi' (meter + Grab fee) with a 'Grab Car' (fare is always higher than the ranged maximum, is set in advance and agreed to by the customer when ordering the car).
I discovered that contacting Grab to ask about this is very difficult in their 'Help' section. I had to file a driver complaint. In the complaint you MUST fill in a box that asks you how much you were overcharged. If your complaint does not involve an overcharge, you can not complain to Grab. I entered p35 overcharge (was not sure how much to enter, so I used the Grab fee amount). It took several days to receive back the obligatory "We received your complaint. We will look into this" reply. Several days after that, they replied with such: "We have investigated and found the driver is at fault for claiming to be a Grab Car. He has received a strike. You are credited p35 to your credit card".
OK, Grab has done the right thing. However this happened again and again, even during the 1 week that Grab was investigating. I started entering large 'overcharge' amounts, just for fun. I reported many of the drivers, always with the same response: "he has received a strike. You are credited p110 to your credit card". That was for a p155 ride. Grab kept their fee (p35), giving the driver almost nothing. Fascinating; they were taking my overcharge amount and giving it back to me, regardless what I put into the box. BTW, I don't have any remorse for driver's misbehavior in this matter.
Two days ago, I thought the same situation had popped up. A driver picked me up and drove about 1 block when I noticed the meter off. I told him to turn it on. "Not needed sir. This is Grab. You look in your app for the meter part". I was well aware that the final meter couldn't be in the app prior to the drop off, and asked him to turn on the meter. "OK", and he did. A minute later I noticed that the timer was mis-counting seconds, about 4 seconds for each real second. I pointed it out to the driver. "Sir you said to run the meter". Yes, but its running way too fast. He turned it off, then back on. This time it was running to fast again, but at a rate of 2 shown seconds to each real second, still to fast. The driver pulled over and we stared at it. "Hmmmm. What you want to do?" I was tempted to get out and cancel the ride and get a regular taxi. "Wait", he said. He turned off the meter and turned it back on, and the timer was showing normal seconds speed. Off we went. When we arrived, it showed p102 on a meter that should have read p120+, due to our driving initially with the meter off. He entered p102 for himself in the app, and that was it. I reported the taxi for having a bad meter, and the driver for trying to not run the meter. Bad boi!
On another occasion I was taking a ride where the metered fare should have been p80-90 (plus separate Grab fee) for that time of day (early Sunday morning, almost zero traffic). I noticed the driver had not turned on the meter, and I asked him to do so. He gave the same routine: "Sir its set advance in your Grab app". Still guy, I'd like you to run your meter. "Sir apology, I can not. The meter is broken in this car". I see. We were halfway to the destination. OK fella, you can put me out here and we cancel the fare, or we can continue. "OK we go". Once we arrived, he apologized, opened his Grab app to enter the metered fare. It showed the p35 Grab fee, and the open box for entering the meter amount. He pointed to the empty metered fare box and asked: "How much sir? Up to you". Very nice call on his part. I told him 80, which he entered, and that ended it. I reported the attempted use of the maximum price, and he too got a strike. Anyone know what a Grab 'strike' is? How does it effect the driver?
* More Grab shenanigans coming soon.
Grab taxi. Shenanigans.And people think I'm crazy preferring to walk everywhere. 😁.
WestCoast1
06-26-21, 13:47
And people think I'm crazy preferring to walk everywhere.I'm with you, I often take a morning and evening walk. But sometimes there is rain, or its just to hot, or too far.
Grab, Part II coming soon. And don't get me started on Waze.
Grab taxi. Shenanigans.
* More Grab shenanigans coming soon.You are an amazing source of information. I like your obsession in researching this.
WestCoast1
06-26-21, 22:52
Grab shenanigans, part II.
Prior to Covid, my emailed Grab receipts always included 1) The metered fare; 2) The Grab fee; 3) The total (meter + Grab fee). Sometime after Covid, in the app, I looked at my 'Activity', which shows all of your previous rides, starting with the most recent, going backwards in time. My Activity reports for each ride simply showed my departure and destinations, a small map of such, and the TOTAL PAID. There was no breakdown of the meter and Grab fee; just the total showed. How much was that darned Grab fee?
I went to my emailed receipts, which show the same things. In addition the emailed receipt showed the distance (km) and the time in minutes. A total, but no metered fare or Grab fee separation. I later filed another overcharge complaint, and this time I asked for Grab to separate out the metered fare and also the Grab fee. Days later, a reply from Grab. Instead of telling me the amounts for the meter and Grab fee, they explained to me how the customer could calculate the amounts. It was infuriating, suggesting: I do maths and figure out the Grab fee. Can you humor me and just look up the metered fare and the grab fee for me? Why is getting the Grab fee for a particular ride feel like pulling teeth?
Days later, they did it, they sent the separate meter, Grab fee, and total. They suggested that the Grab fee was in the app and receipt. No, its not. I screen captured the receipt and emailed it back. Then they confessed that the fee was not there. No sh*t. Now what? A few days later, similar to this: "We are looking into this. It appears we have stopped showing the meter and the Grab fee as separate". You mean, like, 6 months ago, right? Days later, such as: "We don't know how this happened". Really, I am the only one to point this out? Its also happening in my phone app 'Activty', ma'am. Later, such as: "We are working to correct".
Days later I replied: Any success on the fix? I still get email receipts and Activity showing totals only. A week or so later, such as: "They are working on it". Weeks later: Any success on the fix? Days later, such as: "They are working on it".
The Grab fee only shows in the app when the map of your origin and destination points shows when you are ordering a ride. On the bottom, you must choose a Taxi or Grab Car. The Taxi option shows the Grab booking fee (ie, p35 or p50 or such, and in very small font size). But you only see that once, at that time. After you choose the Taxi option and click 'Book A Ride', you will have trouble finding it again. After your ride, you might have trouble finding your metered fare also. One of Grab's email replies implied as much. Yes, sweet lady, I know. But just like at McDonald's, I can see the price of the hamburger on the menu. And later I like to check the receipt to see the individual items ordered, and to see if the total is correctly added. Also I take many Grab rides, its impossible to remember which ride had which Grab fee (p35,50, 75). What if I wanted to check the numbers a week later? Nothing on the Grab receipt or app Activity is itemized. They were suggesting that because the fee was on the app once, they don't need to itemize it on their own receipt.
Shenanigans. I need to prod them again. More Grab shenanigans coming. Given the minutes, the flag fall, KM driven, and the Grab fee, it might not add up to the total that Grab is charging.
WestCoast1
06-28-21, 00:01
Some good news. Just read Muttley's report in the Makati thread about bars being refurbished. In Malate, the same thing has been happening in K-town along Mabini, Adriatico, Bocobo, etc. Several bars have re-opened in the last 2-3 weeks.
It was a bit odd prior to that, as those places were also re-furbishing inside, working at night. You could hear the hammering and such being done indoors when walking by, but not see it. Sometimes the door was open in the daytime and there would be bags of cement piled up. A few weeks later, at night the door would be open and I'd notice a couple of workers putting the polishing touches on, but in the dark or near-dark. Shortly after that, I would pass by to see an open door, a guy standing in the doorway (like a bouncer), the lights would be off (or nearly dark) inside. I would ask if they were open. "No sir, not yet open". The upstairs might be lit with a blue neon light, or one place even a disco-ball light going upstairs, but no noise. It seemed like they were practicing for an opening. That bar would be like that for a week or so. Then one night my girl and I walk by the same place and its the same situation, dark inside, blue neon light coming from the upstairs windows, very quiet, but we could hear a small number of customers inside. Clinking glasses, giggling. Door still open with bouncer. Hey man, can we come in for a drink? "No sir, not open at this time". Check.
It would be another week (about 3 weeks ago) that the place would finally open. I walked in to see socially-isolated tables and no customers. Within a week several other places opened. There are now barkers on the street in the Remedios circle offering to walk you to 'my bar', or showing the old fashioned laminated card with girl's pictures, "I have college girls sir". The bars are socially isolated. Some are dark, some are well-lit. They serve food. There are almost no customers in any of them.
Belagio Square next to Birch Tower is somewhat re-opened. Barkers on the street will want to usher you in. I think there are 3 resto / bars operating. You can sit inside or outside. Had a drink with my girl there last week, sat outside. Loud music was banging away upstairs at that place, don't know how many folk were up there. Guessing dozens from the laughter and noise. But downstairs, inside, the tables were full of pinoy, no plexiglass dividers, seats close together. More of those bars will re-open at some point.
Its a start. Until the next ECQ haha.
ZZYZX in the circle, and the other disco on Adriatico (Illusions?) remain closed. Upstage Gold is a closed KTV, and previously was Bedrock Bar. I think BR burned about 5 years ago. It was a good source of live band / dancing, and I miss the place. Cowboy Grill Remedios is gone.
Some good news. Just read Muttley's report in the Makati thread about bars being refurbished. In Malate, the same thing has been happening in K-town along Mabini, Adriatico, Bocobo, etc. Several bars have re-opened in the last 2-3 weeks.
ZZYZX in the circle, and the other disco on Adriatico (Illusions?) remain closed. Upstage Gold is a closed KTV, and previously was Bedrock Bar. I think BR burned about 5 years ago. It was a good source of live band / dancing, and I miss the place. Cowboy Grill Remedios is gone.I noticed on a Youtuber's walk up Adriatico that line-up of bands was missing on the side of the building that housed Cowboy Grill: too bad, one of my favorite haunts in Malate. Bedrock too was great back in the day. Also, here's one of my favorite ZZYZX girls.
Hello!
53 year old American who arrived in Manila a few months ago. I have one of the visa exemptions that allowed entry into the Philippines.
After clearing quarantine, I set up Tinder. I receive 10-30 "likes" a day, and I have my settings at 18-29 year old females within 10 miles. I contact every single connection. At least 90% respond. We move to text and I quickly advise that I'm only looking for a hook up, nothing serious. About 90% say no thanks. Pass - I'm not that kind of girl.
But then we have the 10% who say yes.
I've had no problem fucking 2-3 different girls every week. I tell them I'm clean with a vasectomy, and every girl so far has told me it's ok without a condom. I've creampied every girl I've fucked except 1, since she was the only girl who asked me not to cum inside. Several of these girls have told me the last time they had sex was 6, 12,18 months ago. They seem incredibly happy to be receiving some good dick. I love licking pussy and 1 girl, 19, told me she's never allowed anyone to do that. I licked that pussy until she was having convulsions and now I get 20 texts a day asking when I'm going to eat her pussy again. A few girls have asked, can you help me with my tuition, otherwise all I've been asked for regarding $$$ is the Grab ride. All of these girls are young, hot, tight, horny as fuck, and bombard me with texts for the next fuck session. Honestly, I'm having a hard time keeping track of all these girls and the stories I tell them.
I just finished fucking a hot Filipina and she's napping while I write this LOL. Life is good my friends!
WestCoast1
07-28-21, 13:15
I've had no problem fucking 2-3 different girls every week. I tell them I'm clean with a vasectomy, and every girl so far has told me it's ok without a condom. I've creampied every girl I've fucked except 1, since she was the only girl who asked me not to cum inside. Several of these girls have told me the last time they had sex was 6, 12,18 months ago. They seem incredibly happy to be receiving some good dick. I love licking pussy and 1 girl, 19, told me she's never allowed anyone to do that. I licked that pussy until she was having convulsions and now I get 20 texts a day asking when I'm going to eat her pussy again. A few girls have asked, can you help me with my tuition, otherwise all I've been asked for regarding $$$ is the Grab ride. All of these girls are young, hot, tight, horny as fuck, and bombard me with texts for the next fuck session. Honestly, I'm having a hard time keeping track of all these girls and the stories I tell them.
I just finished fucking a hot Filipina and she's napping while I write this LOL. Life is good my friends!Great initial field report. Glad you are here to help with the overflow. You've been a good boy, Robert, deserving of a pic. Morsel: Happy afternoon-joy.
Soapy Smith
07-29-21, 07:05
I read reports about flooding over the weekend in more than half of Metro Manila's cities. Found this photo from the corner of Taft and Pedro Gil. I have encountered flooding along Taft in the past, but not so deep that locals with planks couldn't bridge you over the high water in the gutters (for a small toll). But not water at this depth. Interestingly, jeepneys can function here when taxis cannot, because they have much higher ground clearance.
The girls will usually report it as rain from the most recent typhoon (Fabian? But heavy rain this time and others is typically the result of a hanging habagat (monsoon), slow moving weather that sucks water up off the South China Sea and deposits it often on Manila and other parts of Luzon. Typhoons do sometimes hold the monsoon in place and enhance the rainfall effects.
Anybody in country have issues getting around during the floods?
Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm willing to spend good money on a gorgeous light skinned Philipina. Is it possible to find one that matches my description over their. Would I need to build connections over their prior?
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