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Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm willing to spend good money on a gorgeous light skinned Philipina. Is it possible to find one that matches my description over their. Would I need to build connections over their prior?No need to spend good money. Just get yourself into the country and meet some girls. Everyone has a different definition of 'fair' skin. When you do find a fair one, keep her out of the sun, they go brown very quicly.
No need to spend good money. Just get yourself into the country and meet some girls. Everyone has a different definition of 'fair' skin. When you do find a fair one, keep her out of the sun, they go brown very quicly.Forgot to add. Are there some that look a little Spanish who would be available for fun?
P. S I have seen some Phillipina TV shows.
WestCoast1
08-09-21, 10:35
Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm willing to spend good money on a gorgeous light skinned Philipina. Is it possible to find one that matches my description over their. Would I need to build connections over their prior?Pre-covid, we would tell you to try any of these:
1) Escort services.
2) Burgos gogo bars. Tell the mamasan what you want. Even if she doesn't have one to suit your taste, she can probably find one that does (for a fee).
3) Burgos street girls. For a fee, they also can be properly motivated to do some looking for you.
But, Covid has changed everything. No sure if you can find something that specific / unusual these days.
Sorry if this is a stupid question. I'm willing to spend good money on a gorgeous light skinned Philipina. Is it possible to find one that matches my description over their. Would I need to build connections over their prior?You mean like these?
CreateNinnov8
08-09-21, 11:59
Wow the first 2 are so beautiful. Are they for real in Phil or photoshop?
You mean like these?
You mean like these?The girl in blue is a class abv the other 3, imo.
No3 black shot look really pretty pretty.
You mean like these?
Thanks Sammon for posting the small cross section of good girls in Ph. The comments from others show how there is a different girl / look / style that can fit each of our 'gorgeous filipina' requirements.
That's definitely what I miss. A day in Manila, so many different looks, so man opportunities.
There is a new generation of girls that became eligible in March 2020 and have not yet enjoyed the daily parade of us aging overweight foreigners ogling and fucking them. There will be a sex tourist boom after covid.
But as always, the perfect 'looking' girl can soon turn into a tampo pscho. .
Forgot to add. Are there some that look a little Spanish who would be available for fun?
P. S I have seen some Phillipina TV shows.I'm not too sure what you mean by light skinned Spanish lookers but the Sth American looking girls with chocolate brown skin label themselves "Morena". Many of these girls in the online sites. They don't feature highly as screen or print models as Asians typically favour light skin.
Many high end TV actresses and models are actually mixed Euro-Fil or Fil-Am. A lot are available but at a eye watering price as their usual clientele are very wealthy local businessmen rather than horny foreigners. Most will be very reluctant to be seen publicly with a old white guy as it would seriously damage their career and status. Perhaps set your sights a little lower and target the IG glamour models.
The large cities like Cebu and Manila have a mix of all types of girls so everything is available from statuesque buxom Mindanao girls to 70 lb Lyete waifs.
Good luck.
Pre-covid, we would tell you to try any of these:
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But, Covid has changed everything. No sure if you can find something that specific / unusual these days.Post Covid, your list (plus online) will still be valid.
During Covid, a monger is either in town or not. That's the only question: anyone who isn't in country ain't going to be seeing anyone in the flesh soon; anyone who is, has "last man standing status" and has access to all the girls that his accomodation and transport options allow.
Enjoy. 😃.
There is a new generation of girls that became eligible in March 2020 and have not yet enjoyed the daily parade of us aging overweight foreigners ogling and fucking them. There will be a sex tourist boom after covid.Unfortunately 2020 also ushered in a generation of girls who realised that a lot of money can be made with little more than a phone, a SIM card and horny white guys locked in mom's basement. No dancing til 4 am or tolerating drunkards required.
There will always be girls for hire but Covid has fundamentally changed how it's made available and will be sourced.
Cheers. G.
Wow the first 2 are so beautiful. Are they for real in Phil or photoshop?All before Covid ruined my plan year and half ago. My plan was to go March 2020 , no go, cancelled.
These pics are from October, November 2019.
1. In Cebu. Friendly accommodating.
2. Manila, flew her from the province.
3. Manila local.
4. Cebu, Lapu Lapu.
Was in contact till demands for money went way up with sob stories. I have booked trip in November- Istanbul, Manila, cebu, Pattaya, Bangkok. Ultimately maybe just Istanbul and back if other places do not open up.
Below are some more pictures I have contacted but have not met. First one is a virgin, she claims. But ready to give it up she says. No money demands yet. Works in a restaurant.
Second one from Manila showing off her boobs to get money. I have been with her before.
Others still in talking stage.
A lot are available but at a eye watering price as their usual clientele are very wealthy local businessmen rather than horny foreigners. Most will be very reluctant to be seen publicly with a old white guy as it would seriously damage their career and status.
The large cities like Cebu and Manila have a mix of all types of girls so everything is available from statuesque buxom Mindanao girls to 70 lb Lyete waifs.
Good luck.Not everyone is available. You can meet and chat all you want in dating sites or meet in high end bars. Pretty, fair looking girls are sought after and they know it.
Case in point, there was a beautiful model looking Phi-Am girl working at Blue Nile in Angeles as a spotlight dancer. I bought her a drink and asked her. She flatly refused saying she has a rich Korean BF. Fast forward two days. There I was minding my own business. I saw her dancing but did not show any interest. After the dance without warning she comes and sits with me. She asked me where I was staying and room number. I was staying at Royal Amsterdam. She asked me what time I will be in the hotel. I said 11 pm fully knowing she would not come. Happened to go to the hotel at midnight and she was waiting for me. She stayed with me all night and we had lots of fun. She said she is afraid of her boyfriend dumping her if she is caught with somebody. She came the next night also but would not barhop with me.
Another time I met another model looking at one of the clubs in EDSA. She worked part time as a hostess. She said she has a married Philippine boyfriend who is a leading lawyer in Manila. At that time I was staying across the road at Heritage hotel. She also came later directly to my room as Heritage does not check.
Lots of pretty girls in big cities like Manila and cebu have either local or foreigners as sponsors. If they like you they will just come for fun only but no dinner date. But there are other pretty girls who are willing go with old men on vacations, galavanting around town openly.
I have chatted with many beautiful girls over the years. Success rate is only 10 percent. Many vanish into thin air after promising good fun and undying love. I keep trying like they say plenty of pu— —- to catch.
In case you are wondering how much I gave these two girls above? I just put 2000- 3000 pesos in their purse.
Salmon,
I sure miss those days. I had a couple beauties from AC that would secretly meet up in a Manila hotel on the days or nights before I flew home. These beauties had BF giving them monthly allowances. One was an AC bar owner. They never said anything and I never asked. Food had to be take out for them and eaten in the hotel room. They would not go to the SM mall with me. They never asked for money. If I put 1 k in their purse they never complained. Most times I put 3 k in. I always had one of the two come to Manila so I could leave with a happy ending.
Not everyone is available. You can meet and chat all you want in dating sites or meet in high end bars. Pretty, fair looking girls are sought after and they know it..True. There are also different definitions of "available". Some will laugh off a ST romp, only looking for a longer term sponsorship deal or an attractive guy who can improve their social standing.
WestCoast1
08-13-21, 03:15
Sometimes in life you find a piece of gold. A piece of gold that likes to take selfies.
So if things start to open back up. I will be back in the Philippines for work for a month in February.
Is there some type of place or does someone know a woman who will keep my place clean and cook two to three meals a day for me?
So if things start to open back up. I will be back in the Philippines for work for a month in February.
Is there some type of place or does someone know a woman who will keep my place clean and cook two to three meals a day for me?I will give you vague yes to your vague question.
You might want to give more details and requirements unless you want anyone, any kind of cleaning and any kind of meals.
Manila is kind of a big city. Specific location would greatly help to not waste your time or anyone else's.
List of duties.
Live in or out.
Age range.
Benefits or not.
Salary range.
Type of meals.
Male or female? Trans is ok?
Days off.
So if things start to open back up. I will be back in the Philippines for work for a month in February.
Is there some type of place or does someone know a woman who will keep my place clean and cook two to three meals a day for me?Do you want to fuck her as well?
A trap for new players is to fuck the help. A good maid is far harder to find than a good fuck. Keep them separate. 👍.
WestCoast1
09-15-21, 15:38
Is there some type of place or does someone know a woman who will keep my place clean and cook two to three meals a day for me?
Do you want to fuck her as well?
A trap for new players is to fuck the help. A good maid is far harder to find than a good fuck. Keep them separate. 👍.Question. If Cbear can't f*ck the maid, maybe WR can? Just say "Roger", Roger.
Papae Noel
09-15-21, 17:54
So if things start to open back up. I will be back in the Philippines for work for a month in February.
Is there some type of place or does someone know a woman who will keep my place clean and cook two to three meals a day for me?There are domestic help agencies in most if not all cities. Google might be a place to start.
Or, place an ad on Craigslist (Services / household. Or Jobs / General Labor) or locanto. Some screening for drug addicts and criminals would be advised. Good advice, to not fuck the help. So much temptation! What if she offered you massage, or you required massage as condition of employment? Would you resist the temptation? If she was also nude?
If she is live in, a 2 bedroom condo would be less confusion in the end.
Question. If Cbear can't f*ck the maid, maybe WR can? Just say "Roger", Roger.You just need to steal Roger's stash of sexy costumes any any girl can be a Horny French Maid. 😁.
WestCoast1
10-01-21, 06:18
Just some Manila stuff. See pics. This is how the jabs in Manila are reported, the evening before they happen. The categories I think are A1 (frontliners), A2 (seniors), and the rest are age groups moving down from age 60 by decade.
WestCoast1
10-02-21, 05:42
1) A new Sogo. Back around May I was walking down the street one evening and noticed an old, defunct 3-story building. It looked like it was a hotel or apartment previously. Worse, all the facing was off the building completely. It was just concrete, with all the windows broken out. Moreso it was riddled with small holes, all the way to the roof, giving the appearance of being hit with grenades. A few weeks later, several blocks away, signs started going up: "New Sogo, coming soon". Strange that this would become a new Sogo, but nobody put up a sign at that location (at that time; the sign at the location would go up weeks later).
Re-construction began. The entire face was boarded up. A 4th floor was added (1 month). The boards came down. Work began inside on the rooms. Windows were added later. The facing you see was started a month ago. They are still working inside, but it looks close to completion.
This pandemic period I have seen a greater construction growth rate than at any time in my past. The pandemic seems to be a time when builders are building possibly on the cheap, like mad, hoping to cash in after the pandemic with sales.
2) A resto in Robinson's. Third floor, Pepi Cubano. They sold only a small selection of sandwiches and coffee, and desserts. Only about 6-7 small tables. Before the recent ECQ they were doing fine. When the ECQ hit, all restos in the mall closed including this one. The day prior to the end of ECQ, all the other restos in the mall had personnel cleaning, re-stocking, and readying equipment and tables for the following day. But not Pepi, nobody was there. The day things opened, Pepi stayed closed, even for a few more days. Then one day I walked by and chatted the same two girls who I had seen working there before. They were cleaning everything, I assumed in order to restart operations the next day. Boy was I wrong. A few days later I walk by, and it looks like this. All the tables, ovens, stock, refrigerators and such are gone; wiped clean.
1) A new Sogo. Back around May I was walking down the street one evening and noticed an old, defunct 3-story building. It looked like it was a hotel or apartment previously. Worse, all the facing was off the building completely. It was just concrete, with all the windows broken out. Moreso it was riddled with small holes, all the way to the roof, giving the appearance of being hit with grenades. A few weeks later, several blocks away, signs started going up: "New Sogo, coming soon". Strange that this would become a new Sogo, but nobody put up a sign at that location (at that time; the sign at the location would go up weeks later).
Re-construction began. The entire face was boarded up. A 4th floor was added (1 month). The boards came down. Work began inside on the rooms. Windows were added later. The facing you see was started a month ago. They are still working inside, but it looks close to completion.Sogo did the same thing with the old Korean Hotel in the Burgos area.
https://app.box.com/s/dq89cpa438jm4vrifpk1vy8m8hnfgrhl
WestCoast1
10-07-21, 10:24
Sogo did the same thing with the old Korean Hotel in the Burgos area.
https://app.box.com/s/dq89cpa438jm4vrifpk1vy8m8hnfgrhlWhen did it become a Sogo?
WestCoast1
10-12-21, 15:22
1) A new Sogo. SNIP They are still working inside, but it looks close to completion.The new Sogo is up and operating, I spoke to the guards last night.
WestCoast1
10-13-21, 14:23
Questions before about renting vs buying. Here's an ad from social media. A one-bedroom condo unit, larger than most at 63 sq meters, for approximately p14 million.
WestCoast1
10-15-21, 10:29
See pic. After you get here (one day), you will need to go home. All airlines are requiring a negative covid test within the 3 previous days of your outbound flight home. Maybe right-click on the picture and 'Save As' in a folder you will remember at that time. This is one of many testing facilities that have sprung up on social media in the past year that provides such service (they will come to your residence, or they have a drive-thru, or you can walk in). Test results advertised 24 hours or less. At the bottom of the pic are 2 phone numbers, an email address, and their website. You can also private message them on social media for an appointment. There are other labs that offer the same service (I am not associated with this organization).
Update: Here are 2 more such labs, see pics.
WC.
Engine Driver
10-15-21, 23:17
See pic. After you get here (one day), you will need to go home. All airlines are requiring a negative covid test within the 3 previous days of your outbound flight home. Maybe right-click on the picture and 'Save As' in a folder you will remember at that time. This is one of many testing facilities that have sprung up on social media in the past year that provides such service (they will come to your residence, or they have a drive-thru, or you can walk in). Test results advertised 24 hours or less. At the bottom of the pic are 2 phone numbers, an email address, and their website. You can also private message them on social media for an appointment. There are other labs that offer the same service (I am not associated with this organization).
Update: Here are 2 more such labs, see pics.
WC.Westie,
Thanks for single handedly keeping the Philippines board alive. Your resilience in staying put there for the past few years is admirable. Not sure mere mortals could have done that. LOL.
I seriously question the sanity of mongers who are planning to visit third world countries at the moment just to chase pussy. All this bureaucratic effort just for a root? Most mongers have excellent options for sex in their own countries, albeit at a higher price. But factoring in the high cost of the airfare, confusing and inconsistent quarantine requirements, loss of income, need to wear all the Covid paraphernalia and loss of tourist atmosphere hardly makes it worthwhile.
Westie,
Thanks for single handedly keeping the Philippines board alive. Your resilience in staying put there for the past few years is admirable. Not sure mere mortals could have done that. LOL.
I seriously question the sanity of mongers who are planning to visit third world countries at the moment just to chase pussy. All this bureaucratic effort just for a root? Most mongers have excellent options for sex in their own countries, albeit at a higher price. But factoring in the high cost of the airfare, confusing and inconsistent quarantine requirements, loss of income, need to wear all the Covid paraphernalia and loss of tourist atmosphere hardly makes it worthwhile.For some, the home country won't entertain the old people in mongering. For them SEA and other third world countries are paradise. Eagerly waiting for the time to begin the reentry.
DonCarlos1234
10-16-21, 10:35
For some, the home country won't entertain the old people in mongering. For them SEA and other third world countries are paradise. Eagerly waiting for the time to begin the reentry.Looking at those beaches, mountains, rivers, waterfalls. Tropical waters. My lord! And the English speaking nurses that I meet here in the USA are unassuming, beautiful and (most) are sincere. I can't wait. But I will be in Colombia till then. LOL It's closer.
WestCoast1
10-16-21, 12:38
Westie, Thanks for single handedly keeping the Philippines board alive. Your resilience in staying put there for the past few years is admirable. Not sure mere mortals could have done that. LOL.Thanks for your kind words. Re-naming the Phils forums "WestyVille" or such might be appropriate. Kidding.
I seriously question the sanity of mongers who are planning to visit third world countries at the moment just to chase pussy. All this bureaucratic effort just for a root?Yes. Indeed, for less than that, I think. For the possibility of a root. Before the Internet, I had friends drive across states to get to a girl they knew remotely, thinking they were about to get laid. Only to find that she was a ghost, she didn't really live there, or was not the girl she pretended to be. Catfished. Or if not for the poon, he went to 'save' the damsel from her poor life situation (even less than a root).
Can you smell it? Touch it? Feel the Grafenberg spot? Will she go a bit further than 'vanila'? Just the thought of it, rolling around in a man's mind, can make the fever set in. Oh, to be locked away from it. Incels understand this I think.
Most mongers have excellent options for sex in their own countries, albeit at a higher price. But factoring in the high cost of the airfare, There is something to be said for this. There is, I think, a common misconception that we only travel for the poon (somewhat true). But I always had, in my home country, nawty avenues of joy. Some were financial, others just for sport.
Which is better: 1) You spend $3600 USD flying to Phils for 2 weeks, and hammer 12 pinay (great trip). Or 2) You have several college co-ed hotties who are selling it for $300/1-hour session, which you enjoy once a month ($3600 for one year), same, 12 hammers. There are pro / con's for each.
Having said that, I confess that chasing Fiipina is more fun. They drop their panties so much faster. They say and do the craziest sh*t. They are camera crazy. They are better looking. And there's no LAC in my country. Current (and maybe future) reality: There is no LAC here anymore.
confusing and inconsistent quarantine requirements, loss of income, need to wear all the Covid paraphernalia and loss of tourist atmosphere hardly makes it worthwhile.The NCR has gone to 'granular' lockdowns. As I recently posted, less than 30% of Brgy are causing 80% of new cases. Only those places are being hit with the harsher lockdown situation (good news). However, even though my city is not one of those areas, all hotels in this area continue to allow you to have only 1 registered guest. Also, as opposed to a recent AC forum post indicating hotels allowing additional guests, the residences in this area continue to allow you 1 guest registered in total (unless you are renting a unit for, say, 3 persons, in which case you can register 2 guests). There is no tourist atmosphere here.
And because you have been good fellas during the wait, an extra pic goodie or two. Seems the morsel has discovered the joy of a pulsating shower head.
WestCoast1
10-16-21, 12:54
The screw loosens a bit. NCR will go from the current Alert Level 4, down to the milder Alert Level 3, tomorrow. Biz will open up a bit more.
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2021/10/14/2134089/metro-manila-be-placed-under-alert-level-3-starting-october-16
From the article:
"MANILA, Philippines Quarantine restrictions in Metro Manila will be relaxed this week as the COVID-19 situation in the capital region continues to improve.bThe government's pandemic task force has approved the recommendation to place Metro Manila under Alert Level 3 from October 16 to 31, presidential spokesman Harry Roque announced on Wednesday.
The capital region, the Philippines' economic center, is under Alert Level 4, the second most stringent classification in the government's new quarantine system. The downgrade in the alert level will increase the permitted operational capacity of businesses, allowing business establishments to serve more clients.
Under the alert status, food businesses may operate in full capacity for take out and delivery while dine-in services will be permitted at 30% capacity. Personal care service establishments can also fill in up to 30% of their venue capacity. The same operational capacities will be implemented in closed and crowded venues and close contact activities. However, the allowed capacities for businesses with safety seals may increase by 10%.
The venue capacities will not apply to areas under granular lockdowns. Under Alert Level 4, the allowed operational capacity for dine-in and personal care services and in-person religious activities is just 20%."
WestCoast1
10-21-21, 03:13
Grab taxi, more (well, old) shenanigans resurfacing. Now that the drivers are encased in the left-front seat by plexiglass or a thick saran-wrap type of plastic, it is difficult (nearly impossible) to see the meter now. It is difficult many times to even be able to tell if it is powered on, as its hidden inside the plastic, hidden from the back seat and the front passenger seat.
1) The driver fails to switch on the meter when you enter the taxi. When he drops you at your destination, you ask him how much is the metered fare. Alternately, you notice part-way into your ride that the meter is not running and you remind him to turn it on, but he balks at that. At the end of your grab taxi ride you ask for a receipt, but he can not produce one because he did not run the meter. "Just you look in your app sir. Its there". No, its not. You show him your app and ask him to find it, but he can not. He might offer to tell you what he thinks the ride was worth, and it will be exorbitantly large. A p130-160 ranged ride might become "Its 250. OK"? You balk, getting nowhere with him. You must go thru the time-consuming process of reporting him to Grab (the app is time-consuming, and limits your reporting of his bad behavior to just a few pre-made options, with little chance to explain what happened). It might take days to hear back from Grab on your status (reply is by email, but initially you can not complain to them via email, only the app).
2) You order a Grab taxi, to pick you up at Robinson's Malate and drop you at your condo in Makati. Your pickup point is on Pedro Gil, main entrance by Starbucks (across from Eurotel). The Grab driver accepts your fare and the map shows him on Taft. He turns west on P Faura, then he turns left again on Adriatico, then he turns left again on Pedro Gil, then into the semi-circle mall pickup / dropoff area. You get into the car. He confirms "You are sir Westy?" Yes, lets go to Knightsbridge fella. He touches the meter, but you can't really see it very well. There appear to be digital lights running on the meter (but you can't make them out). Curious, just 30 seconds and less than 100 meters away from Robinson's, you pull the plastic aside and look at the meter, it says p48 and 4:22 time, and 0. 4 km. That would be impossible, as you have been in the taxi just 45-50 seconds, and traveled just 100 meters (0. 1 km). The driver, on his way to Robinson's, turned on his meter *before* he got to Robinson's, back around the time he turned left off of Faura, on to Adriatico. It can give him a p6-8 time advantage, and later possibly a p13.5 km advantage. Good news: Every driver whom I caught in this gimick has quickly re-set his meter to flagfall, losing the first minute and 0. 1 km on the final fare (or in one case, 4+ minutes and 0. 8 km). Bad news: I reported every driver that did this.
Both of these "golden oldies" have popped up in the past 3 weeks (again).
WestCoast1
10-23-21, 00:29
Both of these "golden oldies" have popped up in the past 3 weeks (again).Again yesterday afternoon. See pic. A Grab driver picked me up at my place. Our destination was 2. 4 km away (Grab's estimate). Just 30-40 seconds and 100 m up the road we came to a stop behind other traffic at a red light. The meter read as you see the pic. Upon bringing this to the driver's attention, he was full of BS on why it was that way, how difficult the trip is during heavy traffic, how far away the destination was, and why he didn't want to re-set the meter. While still sitting at the red light he DID offer to subtract p14 (the 7 minutes) from the final fare, but not the p13.5 (1. 4 km) already on the meter. I stepped out of the taxi, cancelled in the app, reported the driver in the app, and took a regular cash taxi.
As an aside, many drivers are now insisting at your destination that they show you the info they are entering on their phone's Grab app. It requires them to enter on the app the meter setting. The Grab fee is pre-filled in on his app and can't be changed. As an example, if the fare on the meter is p140, then on his app he should enter 140. The Grab fee of p35 will also show, and on the bottom it will say p175 Total Fee. He must then hit SUBMIT, and then a confirmation screen will pop up showing all the details. At that point he must hit the PROCEED button, and he will be rewarded with the amount he will be credited for this ride. Many drivers are now insisting that you watch this process before exiting the car (kudos as it keeps things honest).
Second aside. Grab drivers earn more than the metered fare. Part of the Grab fee goes back to the driver. Using the same example of p140 on the meter, he will enter that in his app at the end of the ride. After hitting SUBMIT, and then confirming by hitting PROCEED, his app will change to a congratulatory screen saying: "You have earned P157", or such.
Again yesterday afternoon. See pic. A Grab driver picked me up at my place. Our destination was 2. 4 km away (Grab's estimate). Just 30-40 seconds and 100 m up the road we came to a stop behind other traffic at a red light. The meter read as you see the pic. Upon bringing this to the driver's attention, he was full of BS on why it was that way, how difficult the trip is during heavy traffic, how far away the destination was, and why he didn't want to re-set the meter. While still sitting at the red light he DID offer to subtract p14 (the 7 minutes) from the final fare, but not the p13.5 (1. 4 km) already on the meter....Clearly I've been out of the loop for too long. What happened to: book a grab online nominating pick up and set down points; fare is auto calculated; driver is assigned who messages when he is outside; you drive to the nominated setdown point; fare is paid in cash or via the app; add a tip if you feel it appropriate??
When did the fare become variable or a negotiation?? Even when the car was a regular taxi, my fares have always been precalculated by the app.
Clearly I'm missing something.
WestCoast1
10-23-21, 12:42
Clearly I've been out of the loop for too long. What happened to: book a grab online nominating pick up and set down points; fare is auto calculated; driver is assigned who messages when he is outside; you drive to the nominated setdown point; fare is paid in cash or via the app; add a tip if you feel it appropriate??
When did the fare become variable or a negotiation?? Even when the car was a regular taxi, my fares have always been precalculated by the app.
Clearly I'm missing something.First there was Grab Car, which is what you are describing. A regular car driven by a regular Jose (like Uber), for a flat up-front fee.
Grab Taxi is a regular white taxi. It has a green emblem "G" sticker on the rear passenger window. The driver picks up regular cash fares on the street like any taxi driver does. He is also hooked into the Grab app. When I hit my Grab app for a ride, I enter my departure and destination locations. On the bottom of my screen is a choice: Grab Taxi, or Grab Car. The fare for the Car is set in advance (say, p210). The fee for the Taxi is an estimated range, including the Grab fee (usually p35, or more in heavier traffic). The Grab taxi range might appear as: P135-P195 (or such).
If I order the Grab Car, I pay p210. If I order the Grab Taxi, the driver picks me up and turns on his meter, like a normal cash fare. At the end of the ride, I pay the metered fare + Grab Fee (p35). If my metered fare is p140, then I pay 140+35 = p175, in cash or it will go to my credit card on file with Grab. The beauty of the credit card is that you should be able to arrive, step out of the car, and both of you and the driver say "Have a good day" and walk away. It is that way with Grab Car or Uber. But letting taxi drivers into the mix is a bit of a spicy move; they are always on the lookout for ways to make a peso.
There should be no haggling in either system, Grab Car or Taxi. The Car fee is set and agreed to in advance. The Taxi has only one variable: the meter amount, determined at the end of the ride (then add the Grab fee).
Grab Taxi started about a year after Grab Car, maybe 3-4 years ago. I have a running, rant-oriented set of emails going back a full year with Grab customer support. They can be difficult to reach, slow to respond, and say the most non-customer-friendly things in their email (like a lawyer). As an example, I would step out of a Grab taxi, and a moment later I would get a BEEP on my app with this message: "Your fare is p145". Seemed fine to me. An hour later I get a Grab email with the official receipt, showing a charge of p156. Why the difference? I contact Grab in the running email, forwarding back the Grab app p145 and their email of p156. Why the difference? "Because sir the 145 is just an estimate. The email p156 is the actual calculated fare, meter + Grab fee. Thank you". OK, that also seems fine to me, the amount. Next question to Grab: Why bother sending the first message of p145 in the app? "Customers expect it". OK!
If you enter your Grab departure / destination and it shows the route map and calculates your cost, you can see the taxi rates if you click the taxi icon on the bottom of the screen: P40 flagfall, p2 per minute, and p13.5 per KM. Just like a regular taxi. Its right there in your app. But strange things happen. Example: You ride for 7 minutes and 1. 7 km on the meter. That should be p40 (flagfall) + p14 (p2 per minute) + p13.5 (over 1 km and under 2 km = p13.5). That should total should be p67.5. That's exactly what the meter read at the end of the ride. I get a message on my app that my fare is p67.5.
But. . . I get an email receipt, saying the charge is p76.95. Why the discrepancy? I write to Grab to ask, explaining p40 + p14 + p13.5 = 67.5. Reply: "Correct sir its p67.5 charge". Then why did the email say p76? Reply (always the replies take days or longer): "Really sir its p40 + p14 + (p13.5 x 1. 7 minutes) = p76". Wait, wait. The last part, the distance. Its distance times p13.5? Or discrete KM times 13.5? Response: "Yes, distance times 13.5". But in your app it says per each KM. In the meter, it only adds 13.5 when the distance kicks over each new single KM. Which is it?
Wait for it. . . Response: "We don't comment on internal policies and calculations. Sorry po". What! New question to Grab: What is the government department in Philippines that licenses Grab to do business? And which department should I direct a Grab complaint to?
No response. A month later I re-sent that last part. No response. A month later I sent it again. I stopped at the Brgy office and explained, and asked where to file a consumer complaint. "Department of Trade on Gil Puyat sir". Done. I found the DTI website. I emailed DTI and didn't hear back. I called the phone number and nobody answered. One day soon I got to taxi (Grab!) over there.
Pic #1. This is what the grab app looks like after you enter your departure and destination points. A map on top, and the different types of car to choose from on the bottom (blue arrows). Clicking on the red box will get you to pic #2, your different type of vehicles. Notice the blue arrow pointing to the Grab Taxi; you will see the Booking Fee (p35) there. A separate complaint here. If you click the Taxi option you are agreeing to the p35 (which is fine), but later after you are off that screen, should you want to double-check the Grab fee (it might be 35,50, 60,75, etc), you might find it impossible to find in the app for your current ride. It will also not show in the Grab emailed receipt. Its difficult to complain that your receipt or charge is incorrect if you don't know (or can't remember, like me, as I can take half a dozen Grabs or more a week) the Grab fee. Emailing Grab and asking for the Grab fee amount for any previous ride is akin to pulling teeth.
Pic #2. The different types of vehicles you can get from Grab. With a Grab Taxi, you get a range, because the meter amount is different based on traffic patterns and congestion. All the other Grab cars have a set amount, determined beforehand.
Hey Westie,
I would rather prefer you fucking and posting pics of your pretty ladies rather than fighting with Grab. LOL.
As you know Philippine mindset is screw the foreigner. They practically never turn on the meter. Always quoting flat fare except very few honest people. I reward the honest with a good tip. Otherwise as a foreign visitor I take the loss and not let it ruin my day.
But ofcourse you live there and need to live like a local.
MamaGuevos
10-23-21, 16:38
Hey Westie,
I would rather prefer you fucking and posting pics of your pretty ladies rather than fighting with Grab. LOL.
As you know Philippine mindset is screw the foreigner. They practically never turn on the meter. Always quoting flat fare except very few honest people. I reward the honest with a good tip. Otherwise as a foreign visitor I take the loss and not let it ruin my day.
But of course you live there and need to live like a local.I have to agree with Sammon. Several years ago there was a running blog solely devoted to the topic of taxis. I propose that we should go back to that and keep taxi issues out of the Manila section of the ISG. It's not that the issues raised aren't important for the average traveler to Manila, nor that the participants in the taxi discussion aren't otherwise excellent contributors, but it dilutes the Manila section and makes the mongering news and advice harder to find. With the lifting of the travel ban, there is so much for us to learn before making plans to return.
Locamotive
10-23-21, 23:20
Westie,
Thanks for single handedly keeping the Philippines board alive. Your resilience in staying put there for the past few years is admirable. Not sure mere mortals could have done that. LOL.
I seriously question the sanity of mongers who are planning to visit third world countries at the moment just to chase pussy. All this bureaucratic effort just for a root? Most mongers have excellent options for sex in their own countries, albeit at a higher price. But factoring in the high cost of the airfare, confusing and inconsistent quarantine requirements, loss of income, need to wear all the Covid paraphernalia and loss of tourist atmosphere hardly makes it worthwhile.Hahahahahahaha. You are obviously not in USA, a man here over 50 can forget it. Do we have hookers here sure, but what I've seen they would have to pay me. Only hot comparable girls I've seen here was in Vegas and those girls were 1500 to 2000 dollars, they are insane. Younger college types does that happen maybe but if your older and approach them they are likely to call the police. So yes traveling to Asia is money well spent, this country is crap. 18 months now and still waiting. If by some miracle you are in US and there is a place in this country where this is possible, please, please provide location and I will get there.
Soapy Smith
10-24-21, 04:59
Younger college types does that happen maybe but if your older and approach them they are likely to call the police. You might want to strategize a sugar daddy-sugar baby arrangement, but I believe it's not cheap. Rep. Matt Gaetz might have some useful digits, but he's probably holding them very close right now as the investigation scales up.
Hahahahahahaha. You are obviously not in USA, a man here over 50 can forget it. Do we have hookers here sure, but what I've seen they would have to pay me. Only hot comparable girls I've seen here was in Vegas and those girls were 1500 to 2000 dollars, they are insane. Younger college types does that happen maybe but if your older and approach them they are likely to call the police. So yes traveling to Asia is money well spent, this country is crap. 18 months now and still waiting. If by some miracle you are in US and there is a place in this country where this is possible, please, please provide location and I will get there.The $1,500/2 k USD hookers are not worth that kind of money. But if you don't mind Asians, they are available in every city in the US at a reasonable price.
Soapy Smith
10-24-21, 05:31
Several years ago there was a running blog solely devoted to the topic of taxis. I propose that we should go back to that and keep taxi issues out of the Manila section of the ISG. I suspect there's a reason that blog / thread died: it's a topic that ebbs and flows, not one that continues at a steady pace. I have posted taxi stories in the past, but we had an expat in the forum, an Australian I think, long in the tooth like me, who flamed me and others who posted about taxi problems, insisting that if he didn't experience problems, others must be exaggerating. He reported a story from the news about a new LTFRB Director appointed by then President Noynoy Aquino. Some cab driver tried to cheat him on a fare and he had the guy drive him to LFTRB headquarters, walked the guy inside, and pulled his commercial driving license. Our expat insisted that this guy was going to clean up all the presumed taxi problems. Yet here is Westie, eight or ten years later, describing persistent Grab and taxi problems.
Simply stated, one government official is not going to change these taxi driver behaviors. These problems are embedded in systems and in the culture, and they're so taken-for-granted by average Filipinos that they're almost impossible to raise to the surface and reform.
I think Westie's point is to illustrate that these problems are now related to covid, and specifically that taxi and Grab meters are nearly impossible to monitor because of the new plexiglass shields in cabs. I have read about a paragraph into Westie's Grab and taxi posts, get the gist of the problem, and then move to other posts. But I'm not ready to throw in the towel on these posts because, for those of us focused on covid in the Philippines, they are informative. To me, at least.
Soapy Smith
10-24-21, 05:43
The $1,500/2 k USD hookers are not worth that kind of money. But if you don't mind Asians, they are available in every city in the US at a reasonable price.I agree with Lefu's point, but in the city where I live, population about 250 K, you can get a massage, table shower and handshake for about $150. If you want the full menu, you need to go to a larger city, a drive of at least two hours for me. And then prices are going to be somewhere between $200 and $300. There are online offerings in my town for that price range, but they're not Asian, and there are significant risks of disease and police entrapment.
WestCoast1
10-24-21, 17:53
I have to agree with Sammon. Several years ago there was a running blog solely devoted to the topic of taxis. I propose that we should go back to that and keep taxi issues out of the Manila section of the ISG.Apology gents. I don't see a taxi section, but maybe 'Stupid Sh*t' would have been a better place. Enough of the taxi for now.
Locamotive
10-24-21, 22:18
You might want to strategize a sugar daddy-sugar baby arrangement, but I believe it's not cheap. Rep. Matt Gaetz might have some useful digits, but he's probably holding them very close right now as the investigation scales up.True. Better safer and cheaper in the long. Run to just wait for Asia to open. I've not had a American woman in 15 years and from what I've seen lately plus what it would cost ST and the hassle and maybe prosecution. I can wait.
MamaGuevos
10-25-21, 04:52
Apology gents. I don't see a taxi section, but maybe 'Stupid Sh*t' would have been a better place. Enough of the taxi for now.The section was dropped years ago, but Westies contributions keep rolling in. He deserves praise for being one of the most informative members on the ISG, not to mention that he set me up with two amazing Filipinas about 8 years ago. So, Westie, please do not stop contributing.
I find WestCoast1's reporting about Grab pricing and customer service informative. We assume that the dawn of digital age makes things transparent and temper-proof. To the contrary, WestCoast1 shows how Grab drivers and the platform deceives customers. As a frequent user of Grab service, I am amazed by his dogged information seeking, analysis and reporting. For some, his report may be a long story about "pennies". For me, it shows how information is hidden and manipulated, to screw the passenger. Compared to other topics in Manila thread, I find his posts accurate and news-I-can-use.
WestCoast1
10-25-21, 15:24
I find WestCoast1's reporting about Grab pricing and customer service informative. SNIP For me, it shows how information is hidden and manipulated, to screw the passenger. Compared to other topics in Manila thread, I find his posts accurate and news-I-can-use.Pinga 98 for ISG President!
Hi,
Really miss Manila as my last trip is Nov 2018 just months before the COVID.
Not sure when I can travel there again.
Hi,
Really miss Manila as my last trip is Nov 2018 just months before the COVID.
Not sure when I can travel there again.I hear you, brother. I was lucky enough to leave Manila after 3 weeks early March 2020, my flight home was changed. I got out of there in the nick of time but I'm happy to realize that it literally is the most recent I could've gone!
Starchild2012
11-04-21, 04:08
Grab is shady as F*k in Manila. This would NOT Be a PC post. Grab is run by a Chinese guy from Singapore. They have merely copied the concept from West UBER etc not the Principal behind it as usual everything is re-designed to add into "Asian Greed Index" which never ever crashes. With tech its EASIER to HIDE the GREED.
Being from India, It has become a norm in Manila but since its same as back home, it does not get into my nerves as it would be for a guy from West.
The problem is people "assume" since Asia has adopted western culture, they too would have Imported "Moral Principles" behind what makes west great. 90% of Asians think, west is all about Hip-Hop, Night Life, Hollywood and party all night, they do not understand, the REASON behind West Success is Rooted on Moral Principles. The difference between What is RIGHT and WRONG.
Asian society is still Tribal, instinctive, collective, Live for Today Society. We do not have the concept of REASON or What is RIGHT OR WROUNG. Greed is ingrained in people with IQ around 80 - You need a bit of higher IQ to reason what is right and be RATIONAL about a situation.
We have copied only the Superficial Aspects of West. Not its core principle of Reason and Being Moral. We do not see the way for example as WestCoast See it at a problem. We just want to Fulfill our Immediate Needs right now Ignoring the consequences of our actions which requires Higher IQ. WE LIVE FOR THE DAY.
When people from west "Follow Up" on a complaint in Asia. We have already forgotten about it and "Moved On" - Our Nervous system is surprised to see something being followed up from yesterday BUT when we have been shortchanged we take it as a PERSONAL INSULT and our Tribal Instinct Kick In and we make sure justice is served right there and then with violent consequences like how Tribal Society reacts.
Remember, there was no concept of JAIL in Asia, fair trial. Most Asian's when given power will abuse it and we excuse it by saying NOT ALL Not everyone is like that BUT the majority of people you will deal with in Asia are the ones that will get on your nerves. It all looks good in Asia, until when it comes to fair play.
When I'm in Pattaya I always visit only farang owned bars and restaurants and I never get "Funny bills" even when I'm fully drunk but I make sure a farang boss is around as soon as farang turn his back, the bar ladies would play the trick, In Manila they watch for my Drunk Stability Index before adding the Asian Greed Index Price to the bill.
The surprise is this has gotten far worse since tech was introduced in Asia, things have become corrupt even more in India now. India is now going back to draconian age with tech surveillance. Tyrants have taken over with mere skeleton of Democracy. Tech has given a faster way to make money and go back to tribal instinctive ways.
That is why China has become such a police state so fast than it already was, without a good credit score you cannot even travel outside in China. India is not far behind either. I can promise you being from Asia. Things will get FAR worse when tech is involved when you are dealing with Asians in Asia. I can see the gradual shift to darkness and tribal ways even more in India.
The easiest solution is to "Only Deal with Money You can afford to Lose" because you will lose especially in Plane Tickets, train Tickets, Bus tickets, Airbnb, Condo rent, Condo buying etc. Most of the time. It will not be as PROMISED. It takes forever to get refunds, your voice is even more buried now. We just HOPE You will forget or "GIVE UP" - We do not understand why a farang fights for few pesos is based on his PRINCIPLES not about Money. When you return to Asia after two years of lockdown. You will be surprised that you are now losing even more than before. People are now more desperate + tribal instinct is at an all time high. Survival has kicked in and when a tribal is in a survival mode. Always have your guard up.
Jayant Bhandari has better analysis on West vs The Rest.
Just BE CAREFUL on your Next Trip to Asia. This may sound over exaggeration or racist etc but if you have high moral principle and you were raised a certain way, be ready to be even more surprised.
Steve Nash
11-04-21, 07:20
Grab is shady as F*k in Manila. This would NOT Be a PC post. Grab is run by a Chinese guy from Singapore. They have merely copied the concept from West UBER etc not the Principal behind it as usual everything is re-designed to add into "Asian Greed Index" which never ever crashes. With tech its EASIER to HIDE the GREEDI agree about their greed and their dishonesty.
I had argue with many taxi drivers and even some motorbikes too.
I think when it comes to taxi drivers and motobikes they do it to anybody not just foreigner also to Filipinos, I had argue with my GF and many of my friends why you put up with this, because they tell me they always do this they always try to over charge you even to local filipinos, I keep telling them is not about money because is just afew hundred pesos, is about their dishonesty and trying to rip you off. I have not problem giving them tips, I actually give tips to the honest ones because is hard to find honest taxi drivers.
I find this the most when they drop you to a short hotel or when they pick you up from a short hotel, taxi drivers will over charge you because they know you are bringing a girl to a short hotel because you are trying to hide her from someone, in my case from my GF and her friends, and for local filipinos hiding the girls from their wife or GF. No wonder short hotels are so popular in Philippines, because you can bring your mistress their.
So most drivers take advantage of that situation and always charge you alot, an extra fee for dropping you inside the short hotel or picking you up from there. When the extra fee is little I don't mind, but when they try to charge you alot, like twice as much as the taxi fee, I get piss, I even told drivers I'm not paying you double, I can pay you an extra fee but not double so some will say OK but I will drop you outside the short hotel not inside, so I say yeah I don't care. I even asked some drivers who were picking us up from the short hotel to go back and drop us back in the short hotel because I'm not paying their outrageous prices, most will lower it, one of them didn't so I force him to drive me back and drop me in the short hotel entrance. He wasn't far anyways.
Some girls will feel embarass at first but at the end they all understand my point of view when I explain them is not about the money is about why they want to take advantage of you, is about the principal and the moral.
I honestly feel bad for most foreigners who don't look like locals, I'm Latino so I will pass as Filipino easily, but the white ones or the black ones or the indians or the koreans, etc. I can see them getting rip-off more than locals, and paying the foreigner price sometimes instead of the filipino price.
WestCoast1
11-08-21, 06:04
Goodie time. Brought by a provider. Cute twiglet with a well-defined derriere. Narcissistic, likes watching herself in the mirror, likes watching herself have sex, and likes being photographed. Has brought me joy multiple times. The Philippine flag: Long may she wave.
WestCoast1
11-08-21, 14:25
Couple of pinoy guys my age were very happy and talkative outside Robinson's next to the Arya resto. As I passed by with my face mask on and face shield in hand, they stopped me. "Sir are you going in the mall?" Yes I am. "Sir you don't need that face shield anymore for inside". Really, that would be a first in a year's time. Thanks fellas. To put it to the test I kept the shield in my hand and not on my head as I entered. The guards said nothing. Others were doing the same. Everyone inside seemed to have a shield, but most were worn on top of their head, or in their hand, not on their face. Possibly this has to do with going to a less-strict Alert Level. Anyway its good news that things are getting back to normal.
Couple of pinoy guys my age were very happy and talkative outside Robinson's next to the Arya resto. As I passed by with my face mask on and face shield in hand, they stopped me. "Sir are you going in the mall?" Yes I am. "Sir you don't need that face shield anymore for inside". Really, that would be a first in a year's time. Thanks fellas. To put it to the test I kept the shield in my hand and not on my head as I entered. The guards said nothing. Others were doing the same. Everyone inside seemed to have a shield, but most were worn on top of their head, or in their hand, not on their face. Possibly this has to do with going to a less-strict Alert Level. Anyway its good news that things are getting back to normal.Copy that, Westie. I think only ugly people like Trainwreck and his basement pal Reacharound should be wearing masks. But that is just my opinion. Hahahahahah.
Couple of pinoy guys my age were very happy and talkative outside Robinson's next to the Arya resto. As I passed by with my face mask on and face shield in hand, they stopped me. "Sir are you going in the mall?" Yes I am. "Sir you don't need that face shield anymore for inside". Really, that would be a first in a year's time. Thanks fellas. To put it to the test I kept the shield in my hand and not on my head as I entered. The guards said nothing. Others were doing the same. Everyone inside seemed to have a shield, but most were worn on top of their head, or in their hand, not on their face. Possibly this has to do with going to a less-strict Alert Level. Anyway its good news that things are getting back to normal.It was released as update today after vote from mayors:
https://www.rappler.com/nation/face-shield-no-longer-required-manila-except-medical-facilities
I don't think it's official policy yet though as mentioned in article. While this is good news and things are moving back to normal, implore you all to be sensible and not get in heated arguments with guards if they insist on shield being needed. Nothing worse than a shotgun to the face.
WestCoast1
11-09-21, 10:17
Nothing worse than a shotgun to the face.I take it back, a bit. Went into two SM Hypermart grocery stores today and was forced to put on my face shield by the guards at both stores before entering. Everyone inside was wearing a shield. Did not get the "shotgun" treatment (that I might deserve).
I take it back, a bit. Went into two SM Hypermart grocery stores today and was forced to put on my face shield by the guards at both stores before entering. Everyone inside was wearing a shield. Did not get the "shotgun" treatment (that I might deserve).Glad to hear it, unless guard is a husband you "know" you should be safe. Haha.
Much confusion reigns on whether shields are required / legal or not:
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/11/08/21/palace-tells-public-to-wait-for-final-decision-on-face-shield
Appears mayors who have issued executive orders repealing use of shields have done so on basis that they believe president follows what they advise. Roque has said that decision must come from government as executive policy is from president. Only in the Philippines!?
Hopefully it'll be resolved by the weekend.
Hello Brothers,
Can you help me with some info about Manila neighbourhoods? There are pretty good signs that international flights will be allowed again and so I start to plan my trip to the Philippines. I plan to visit few different areas like Cebu / El Nido and Manila. But for Manila I need a little bit of help. Where to book an Airbnb? I made my research and my info so far is that the best areas are Makati (Poblacion is mentioned a lot), Malate and Quezon.
My plans are one week in Manila, then some trip to El Nido or Cebu, then go back to Manila for one more week. For Manila, I'm looking for a neighbourhood with a lot of coffee shops, bars, nice night life (everything except clubs).
I plan to find girls on Tinder and Instagram, so a bars where to look for girls is not a criteria. So far this tactic had great success everywhere in the world and I'm pretty sure it will works here too. Basically I am looking for an area with a lot of bars where I can go when I already have a girl. Just a place (bar, coffee shop, restaurant) where to have a good time. Also I am a big coffee lover so a neighbourhood with a lot of places for a good coffee is very much appreciated.
So what are your recommendations and advices?
Thanks!
Hello Brothers,
Can you help me with some info about Manila neighbourhoods? There are pretty good signs that international flights will be allowed again and so I start to plan my trip to the Philippines. I plan to visit few different areas like Cebu / El Nido and Manila. But for Manila I need a little bit of help. Where to book an Airbnb? I made my research and my info so far is that the best areas are Makati (Poblacion is mentioned a lot), Malate and Quezon.There are plenty of bars in Poblacion but it's one of those areas where the destitute are very close to the ultra wealthy, separated only by big fences. You can find yourself in wrong area easily. It's very close to Burgos street but you've said you're not looking for girly bars so not worth considering for that reason.
It's not on your list of areas, and outside of Makati, but I would consider Bonifacio Global City (BGC). Loads of bars, restaurants and coffee shops, very instagram friendly.
Bear in mind that presently majority of normal bars in Pablacion are closed, by government order for breaking curfews in many instances and a lot have simply closed for good. International flights returning should not be only thinking behind returning, I'm a pretty positive person but I can't see things returning to normal anytime soon. With vaccination rates we could easily be in another lockdown before end of the year.
For Manila, I'm looking for a neighbourhood with a lot of coffee shops, bars, nice night life (everything except clubs).
Basically I am looking for an area with a lot of bars where I can go when I already have a girl. Just a place (bar, coffee shop, restaurant) where to have a good time. Also I am a big coffee lover so a neighbourhood with a lot of places for a good coffee is very much appreciated.
So what are your recommendations and advices?
Thanks!The Greenbelt area has everything you have listed. If you stay on the Greenbelt 5 side you are also walking distance to Glorietta. Lots to see and do there, day and night, and many convenient places to meet up.
Obviously, many are closed now but, like everywhere, may reopen by the time you can arrive.
Hello Brothers,
Can you help me with some info about Manila neighbourhoods? There are pretty good signs that international flights will be allowed again and so I start to plan my trip to the Philippines. I plan to visit few different areas like Cebu / El Nido and Manila. But for Manila I need a little bit of help. Where to book an Airbnb? I made my research and my info so far is that the best areas are Makati (Poblacion is mentioned a lot), Malate and Quezon.
My plans are one week in Manila, then some trip to El Nido or Cebu, then go back to Manila for one more week. For Manila, I'm looking for a neighbourhood with a lot of coffee shops, bars, nice night life (everything except clubs).
I plan to find girls on Tinder and Instagram, so a bars where to look for girls is not a criteria. So far this tactic had great success everywhere in the world and I'm pretty sure it will works here too. Basically I am looking for an area with a lot of bars where I can go when I already have a girl. Just a place (bar, coffee shop, restaurant) where to have a good time. Also I am a big coffee lover so a neighbourhood with a lot of places for a good coffee is very much appreciated.I usually stay in Malate, lots of everything there.
Soapy Smith
11-13-21, 20:04
Also I am a big coffee lover so a neighbourhood with a lot of places for a good coffee is very much appreciated.
Thanks!Should we assume you don't plan on sleeping much?
Cuba Tourist
11-13-21, 20:48
"I plan to find girls on Tinder and Instagram, so a bars where to look for girls is not a criteria. So far this tactic had great success everywhere in the world and I'm pretty sure it will works here too. ".
It would be extremely helpful to hear how people here use these apps. What do you say and how do you identify women you think would be interested?
"I plan to find girls on Tinder and Instagram, so a bars where to look for girls is not a criteria. So far this tactic had great success everywhere in the world and I'm pretty sure it will works here too. ".
It would be extremely helpful to hear how people here use these apps. What do you say and how do you identify women you think would be interested?Tinder is a dating app so just upload your photos and profile, swipe on the girls you like and wait for the matches to come in. Lots of straight up working girls there and semi pros.
Instagram contains thousands of professional girls who use it as a feeder for their Only Fans account or paid nudes and videos. You can DM them but be aware they are receiving money for essentially nothing when sending a couple of photos so meet up and hookup rates are often eye wateringly expensive. The normal girls can be treated like civilians and asked for a coffee date or more.
Enjoy. 😁.
Not a market I dabble in but IG model pricing:
WestCoast1
11-17-21, 00:27
The Robinson's Malate gals have been back on-site for about 5 months. Just inside the Pedro Gil entrance, in the walking area in the hallway near Starbucks. 2-5 ladies most days. They are not the same gals as before, they are 0. 5 - 1. 0 higher on the 10 point scale than previously. Also outside on the steps in front of Arya resto most nights are half a dozen ladies (and 1 tall bakla sometimes). I have been "Pssst massage sir" from them multiple times, but have not stopped to chat about rates or the price of a nearby ST room. During the ECQ times they disappeared like everything else.
WestCoast1
11-24-21, 13:21
Pic time. Tiny flat-tummy'd thing continually sneaking into my bed.
SeaTraveler
11-26-21, 01:58
Hahahahahahaha. You are obviously not in USA, a man here over 50 can forget it. Do we have hookers here sure, but what I've seen they would have to pay me. Only hot comparable girls I've seen here was in Vegas and those girls were 1500 to 2000 dollars, they are insane. Younger college types does that happen maybe but if your older and approach them they are likely to call the police. So yes traveling to Asia is money well spent, this country is crap. 18 months now and still waiting. If by some miracle you are in US and there is a place in this country where this is possible, please, please provide location and I will get there.Toronto has thousands of hookers in all price ranges. I go there several times a year. Check out TERB as a review board. At incall agencies, you can get as low as $120 USD for 30 minutes.
Pic time. Tiny flat-tummy'd thing continually sneaking into my bed.Very nice: reminds me of this one. BTW, do you have any more of that slim, trim morsel?
FuriousGeorge
12-02-21, 11:15
Nah bruh. Meeting a filippina at a gogo bar or a civi bar, romancing her all night, taking her back to your hotel and having bareback sex with her for hours, and then sending her home in the morning with a kiss and a few bucks, and then repeating the next day with a different girl. That's MY jam.
Toronto has thousands of hookers in all price ranges. I go there several times a year. Check out TERB as a review board. At incall agencies, you can get as low as $120 USD for 30 minutes.
WestCoast1
12-02-21, 17:10
Very nice: reminds me of this one. BTW, do you have any more of that slim, trim morsel?DW: That's effin' hot BTW.
What? Me? Have a naked pic of that little honey in the shower? Me?
Albert9989
12-02-21, 17:52
DW: That's effin' hot BTW.
What? Me? Have a naked pic of that little honey in the shower? Me?No, no, the question should is a hottie where you don't have a pic or only dressed pic maybe.
Big challenge.
Anyway if you don't succeed to this challenge its very fine & even under shower or anywhere else can be fine too and thanks a lot.
WestCoast1
12-03-21, 11:33
No, no, the question should is a hottie where you don't have a pic or only dressed pic maybe. Big challenge. Anyway if you don't succeed to this challenge its very fine & even under shower or anywhere else can be fine too and thanks a lot.Not sure I understood that. However, while I have clothed pics, it is a challenge I can not compete in. Clothes, like tattoos, run the risk of identifying the girl.
WestCoast1
12-03-21, 11:52
Toronto has thousands of hookers in all price ranges. I go there several times a year. Check out TERB as a review board. At incall agencies, you can get as low as $120 USD for 30 minutes.Prostitution I believe is legal in Canada, yes?
I have commented before about CL and RB, both now de-fanged (by law) and defunct. Thanks the TERB update. That price would be inline with my experiences on RB (CL could be cheaper, with a wider variety of prices -- and fuglies). While RB is dead, the ladies are still out there, conducting as before, just using other electronic methods of getting incall / outcall dates.
A note about such meetings (incall or out). Times set are typically inviolate. When its 1 hour, expect her to be moving you along by minute 59. A few ads would say "I don't watch the clock", or such. This was often true of that girl, but by just 10 minutes after the 1-hour mark, she would be making an excuse as to why I had to depart: She would claim that she had another client coming, or she had to meet some friends for drinks, or such. Never was multiple pops allowed (unless discussed in advance with some extra gift, and even then some girls will never agree to it). Never did I have an experience where the lady and I spent an extra hour just chatting, or going out later for a cup of coffee. You get mostly exactly what you pay for, there is little YMMV. This is also in line with the Mexican system of typically 30 or 60 minutes agreed to in advance (along with every item requested by the customer, otherwise she will ignore it in the room); she will not agree to extend by even a minute (a hotel 'towel guy' will knock on your ST room door 5 minutes prior to your time expiration to remind you to get moving) without a hefty gift increase. A condom in the RB and Mexican system is *always* required. What's that, you want to to extend from 1 hours to two? You pay double. RB gals and the Mejicanas want nothing to do with you when you walk out the door.
Nah bruh. Meeting a filippina at a gogo bar or a civi bar, romancing her all night, taking her back to your hotel and having bareback sex with her for hours, and then sending her home in the morning with a kiss and a few bucks, and then repeating the next day with a different girl. That's MY jam.Haha mine also. Contrast the RB / Mexican model with the asian Phils model of ST being 1-2-2. 5 hours (with multiple pops), easily discussed in advance, where the girl might not care what you do for the time (sex, massage, sex+massage+sex), as long as she stayed for the time and got the gift at the end of her time. Repeat visits will get you a reduced price (she is 'comportable' to you), or extra goodies for the same price. ST girls will often be happy with spending the night for just 30-50% more gift. Phils girls would never try to keep their clothes on during sex and then tell you that you failed to negotiate 'sin ropa' (unclothed) before hitting the room. The condom is rarely mentioned in Phils. Friendships develop with many Filipinas with their customers, they stay in touch in txt or WA or such (an intangible not available in the RB / massage / incall-outcall system, which can be see as either good, or bad).
Albert9989
12-03-21, 15:40
Not sure I understood that. However, while I have clothed pics, it is a challenge I can not compete in. Clothes, like tattoos, run the risk of identifying the girl.OK, no pr5, I tried a joke but in English is not always easy for me.
Main topic was to say that I like all your pics so continue to post!
"I plan to find girls on Tinder and Instagram, so a bars where to look for girls is not a criteria. So far this tactic had great success everywhere in the world and I'm pretty sure it will works here too. ".
It would be extremely helpful to hear how people here use these apps. What do you say and how do you identify women you think would be interested?It's no difference of how you speak to a girl when you meet in real life. Trying to be fun, smart and a little naughty. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. I gave up on "identifying" if the girl will be interested. Just try and see what will happens. You will be amazed of the amount of girls willing to have some fun and enjoy a night (or a few) with an exotic stranger. Sometimes you find a real nasty girl with wild fantasies, sometimes a girl that didn't have sex in the last months or even half an year. It's ridiculous. And pretty fun. It was like that in Indonesia, it was like that in Kenya and Uganda, it was like that in Columbia. I bet it will be the same in Philippines.
Wondering what is the current situation in Manila regarding the bars, coffee shops, places to eat. Are they working normally or there are restrictions? I see that the covid cases in Philippines drop significantly so maybe things are going back to normal regarding the places where you can have some good time with a girl? Then of course, go back to the airbnb and have some more good time. Also. Are the people on the streets wearing masks or it's a matter of personal choice? I remember few months ago when I arrived in Bogota and realised that the masks on the streets is mandatory. No good.
Engine Driver
12-07-21, 09:21
Wondering what is the current situation in Manila regarding the bars, coffee shops, places to eat. Are they working normally or there are restrictions? I see that the covid cases in Philippines drop significantly so maybe things are going back to normal regarding the places where you can have some good time with a girl? Then of course, go back to the airbnb and have some more good time. Also. Are the people on the streets wearing masks or it's a matter of personal choice? I remember few months ago when I arrived in Bogota and realised that the masks on the streets is mandatory. No good.I would strongly suggest you pack your bags and get down here right now. You are missing out all that exotic pussy man. The place is well and truly back to normal. The vast majority of the population has been fully vaccinated and many are lining up for booster shots. They mayors all want mongers to return, so all the hurdles have been removed. The place is very safe now and new cases and deaths are very rare. There is no need to wear a mask or use a face shield. No one is checking ID, masks or vaccine passports. There is an 'anything goes' atmosphere here. In fact, you will look like a timid idiot if you wear a mask.
As for the bars, well Burgos Street and EDSA are rocking every night to K-pop tunes. The place is awash with horny Korean mongers. I reckon half of bloody Seoul is here chasing Filipina pussy. The bars have all been fully renovated during the downtime and look terrific. They are full of hot girls from the provinces, usually in the 18-22 range. Bottoms bar the other night had close to 50 gorgeous girls in string bikinis and about 50 Korean mongers. By 8. 00 pm, all girls had been barfined and only the DJ and wait staff were there. The trick is to get there early at say 6. 00 pm. You will need to line up at 5. 30 pm to get in on time. Then go and barfine a hot chick immediately. That's the only way to beat these kimchi munchers. I was with a couple of British mongers and we barfined a chick each at precisely 6. 05 pm and that really screwed the Koreans up. Haha. They were the hottest girls in the bar too.
The only thing that has drastically changed is the pricing. The barfine is now 6,000 peso plus a 6,000 peso tip to the girl the next morning. That includes unlimited BBBJCIM and unlimited shots on goal. All action is bareback. In fact, if you take condoms, the girls will be insulted as it implies she is diseased. Don't even think about condoms.
So by the time you had three or four lady drinks, a few beers for yourself, a steak dinner and cocktails for you and your instant girlfriend, plus the 12,000 fee, you will need about 25,000 peso a night for a good time. But that's still a bargain compared to whatever country you will be coming from.
So in summary, I'd say now is your time. The Koreans are not much competition. In fact, they are timid little pricks, counting every peso. Totally pathetic. Just walk into the bars like you own the joint, flash the cash, point to the hottest chick on stage and she's yours. It's that easy. Then give the Koreans the finger!
Locamotive
12-07-21, 14:42
I would strongly suggest you pack your bags and get down here right now. You are missing out all that exotic pussy man. The place is well and truly back to normal. The vast majority of the population has been fully vaccinated and many are lining up for booster shots. They mayors all want mongers to return, so all the hurdles have been removed. The place is very safe now and new cases and deaths are very rare. There is no need to wear a mask or use a face shield. No one is checking ID, masks or vaccine passports. There is an 'anything goes' atmosphere here. In fact, you will look like a timid idiot if you wear a mask.
As for the bars, well Burgos Street and EDSA are rocking every night to K-pop tunes. The place is awash with horny Korean mongers. I reckon half of bloody Seoul is here chasing Filipina pussy. The bars have all been fully renovated during the downtime and look terrific. They are full of hot girls from the provinces, usually in the 18-22 range. Bottoms bar the other night had close to 50 gorgeous girls in string bikinis and about 50 Korean mongers. By 8. 00 pm, all girls had been barfined and only the DJ and wait staff were there. The trick is to get there early at say 6. 00 pm. You will need to line up at 5. 30 pm to get in on time. Then go and barfine a hot chick immediately. That's the only way to beat these kimchi munchers. I was with a couple of British mongers and we barfined a chick each at precisely 6. 05 pm and that really screwed the Koreans up. Haha. They were the hottest girls in the bar too.
The only thing that has drastically changed is the pricing. The barfine is now 6,000 peso plus a 6,000 peso tip to the girl the next morning. That includes unlimited BBBJCIM and unlimited shots on goal. All action is bareback. In fact, if you take condoms, the girls will be insulted as it implies she is diseased. Don't even think about condoms.Really? It went from dead city to your description in what a week or two. I pray what you are saying is correct. We got a second opinion on the ground? If so I know some province girls waiting to come back as they thought it was still deadsville.
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12-08-21, 01:59
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12-08-21, 09:46
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12-15-21, 22:05
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Something to soothe the beasties: A 70-lb spinner (the best kind) gettin' busy down there.
Really? It went from dead city to your description in what a week or two. I pray what you are saying is correct. We got a second opinion on the ground? If so I know some province girls waiting to come back as they thought it was still deadsville.Yeah but if reading right a girls about 240 $ now? 6,000 to bar and 6,000 to girl? Am I missing something or the prices correct now?
Engine Driver
12-16-21, 06:15
Yeah but if reading right a girls about 240 $ now? 6,000 to bar and 6,000 to girl? Am I missing something or the prices correct now?Yeah, that's right. It's Covid induced inflation and the Korean owners are looking to clean up. In addition to the 12,000 peso for the girl + tip, also factor in lady drinks at exorbitant cost, beers for your self, plus dinner. These provincial hotties might only eat rice and vegetables back home in their villages, but they develop expensive and sophisticated palates whenever a foreigner is around. You will be up for a nice steak dinner or a hotel dinner buffet. Yep, all up it's going to cost a lot. But it will still be cheaper than wherever you're coming from.
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Locamotive
12-16-21, 14:12
Yeah but if reading right a girls about 240 $ now? 6,000 to bar and 6,000 to girl? Am I missing something or the prices correct now?Whoa! 6000 bar fine. Girl ok maybe if hot enough but that kind of bar fine is insane.
WestCoast1
12-16-21, 19:29
Yeah but if reading right a girls about 240 $ now? 6,000 to bar and 6,000 to girl? Am I missing something or the prices correct now?Barfines at Go Bananas, Jools, Dimples, Mirrors, Bourbon, and Hollywood were, in February 2020 (just prior to Covid), p3900. Some bars had happy hour prices, afternoon and early evening, half-price on the barfine for ST. LT tip prices were p4-6 k for hotties, half that for lesser girls. Even for a hottie, p3900 BF + p6,000 tip + p600 drinks was about 11 k, $220 USD, so not far off from the $240 mentioned (adding in dinner and / or breakfast and / or bar-hopping with your honey). For lesser girls you could get them to agree to 2000-3500-ish for tip (and, for those interested, I had little trouble convincing them to afternoon ST with me prior to their shift for 2 k). Someone correct me if I am wrong.
There was, for almost a year prior to Covid, a serious decline in the number of gents seen in the bars. That p3900 barfine was set in stone for at least 5 years. Given that you get a hottie all night and get a pop in the evening and morning, and can take her out on a date, for $250 USD, try *that* in your country. Hotties in my country are college-age girls and want up to twice that amount per hour, and come with a list of "No!" conditions that pinay won't utter.
Locamotive
12-17-21, 08:29
Barfines at Go Bananas, Jools, Dimples, Mirrors, Bourbon, and Hollywood were, in February 2020 (just prior to Covid), p3900. Some bars had happy hour prices, afternoon and early evening, half-price on the barfine for ST. LT tip prices were p4-6 k for hotties, half that for lesser girls. Even for a hottie, p3900 BF + p6,000 tip + p600 drinks was about 11 k, $220 USD, so not far off from the $240 mentioned (adding in dinner and / or breakfast and / or bar-hopping with your honey). For lesser girls you could get them to agree to 2000-3500-ish for tip (and, for those interested, I had little trouble convincing them to afternoon ST with me prior to their shift for 2 k). Someone correct me if I am wrong.
There was, for almost a year prior to Covid, a serious decline in the number of gents seen in the bars. That p3900 barfine was set in stone for at least 5 years. Given that you get a hottie all night and get a pop in the evening and morning, and can take her out on a date, for $250 USD, try *that* in your country. Hotties in my country are college-age girls and want up to twice that amount per hour, and come with a list of "No!" conditions that pinay won't utter.Pre COVID vs now I realize are probably going to be two different environments. Girls and bars need to make up for lost revenue. I visited those same bars you mentioned but most of the time I picked during happy hour and bar fine was 2 k and girl usual 4 or 5 k. Gave myself 3 k to drink and get to know the girl so 10 k tops, still about $200. If I got a late start and saw a honey after happy hour ID just give her my number and say meet me after work. Did this always work, no. Maybe 50% of the time. Did I care, no not really. I lived and worked there so time was on my side. I understand for a monger there for a week or two on vacation this would not be practical was I getting sloppy 2nds or thirds if they showed up. Probably but its not like I'm expecting Mother Teresa. Even a normal hours bar pickup she could have been banging a monger all afternoon, who knows. Nevertheless it will be good to get back after so long. Price at this point is really not going to be a issue after being stuck in US with all these lard asses.
Isn't EDSA complex completely gone?
I was still in PH when mongers were collectively grieving at the closure of its last remaining bars.
I am curious. What chat site were you using?
the following sequence tells a story. maybe not for the squeamish. names changed to protect identities.
i won't bore you with all the details of meeting, but an online chatmate some years ago wanted to meet up when i was in manila. gina. while i hadn't told her in advance i was coming, when she found i was in manila, she wanted to leave the province (family labored on a pig farm) to come see me in manila. while very small-appearing on cam, she is very cute.
i had been chatting her from a caf, and she was full of repeated requests to meet, but i was a bit uneasy about it, because she appeared physically small / young on cam, and seemed immature. the next day, thru txt, i agreed. i reminded her that antipolo was a long way out, and that she would have to pay her own way. she asked if i would re-imburse her the bus fare. i said yes. she said that if i didn't like her after meeting, she would not ask me for the bus fare. seemed fair enough to me, although i would still give her the round trip bus fare. she said she would be in the hotel lobby at 3pm. at 3pm as i'm heading downstairs to the lobby, she txts: "can i bring my auntie?" since you are already 2 hours on the bus, and already have auntie with you, there is no stopping that.
five minutes later gina and 3 other women walk into the lobby. she brought her aunt, her mom, and her younger sister. the mom and aunt were older, late 40's, fat. gina herself is 4' 6", about 65lbs. other than her shortness, she is stunning. if she were 5' 6", she would be the most perfectly apportioned woman you've ever seen: nice ass, skinny waist, and real boobage, cute face. her younger sister, carol, is even hotter: she looked just like a (poor) supermodel or actress, including her being tall (for pinay) at 5'-7" height. carol appears to be 22-23-24 in age. i almost had to collect my jaw up from the floor. i was polite, we sat in the lobby a bit and chatted, but i was unsure if i should take them to the room. they were all a bit dirty in their clothes.
after a bit, the aunt, who spoke better english than the rest of them, asked if they could see my room."haha we never been on hotel before." looking at gina, she now appeared to be fairly young. i shouldn't have, but i let them come upstairs to the room. by luck, the hotel had upgraded me from a regular room to a deluxe, a corner room with floor-ceiling windows on the adjoining walls where the corner of the building is. amazing view. separate entry room, a sitting room with couch. a large-screen tv in the bedroom. largest kingsize bed i've ever seen in asia. walk-in closet. bathroom with bathtub, and a phone in the can for calling the front desk while you crap. it was clear from their reaction that they've never been in a hotel. the elevator itself kind of freaked them out. they were in awe of the room: "my god! its bigger our house!" they sat on the bed for a bit, all four of them: "haha. whole family can sleep this bed!" they walked around and checked out the suite.
at this point i wasn't sure how to get rid of them. i couldn't take my eyes off either sister. one was small and cute, the other was g-g-gorgeous. carol kept staring at me, she rarely spoke. it was the "come-hither-big-boy" look. i asked if they wanted to go to robinson's next door and get a coffee or juice? yes they did. once in the mall they wanted juice at a restaurant. mostly they wanted dinner. stupidly i got sucked into that one. the younger sister, carol, kept looking at me in the restaurant, with a wisp of a smile (mona lisa like) , kind of the way a cat looks at a mouse under its paw. during dinner i asked auntie how old carol was: "she running 17. just graduate high school. she our only one who graduate high school till now." jesus de christo! 16 years old, looking 23, with a face that kept saying throw me on the table and fuck me in front of everyone. after dinner they wanted to go thru the mall. we strolled, they hinted for stuff, i ignored. finally they said they wanted to go in the grocery store. they grabbed a cart. to cut the damage, i handed gina's auntie a p500 note and said i would give them no more money. they spent (no kidding) , p502, and asked me for 2 pesos at the checkout register.
then they asked to come back to the room for a few minutes. i was about to say no, and get rid of them, when auntie said they must get on the bus soon as it was dark. whew! back up to the room, and right away auntie asks if i can help them with their family problem: her brother, gina's dad, had to pawn his motorcycle to pay some gambling debts. they needed p10k. i said no. they asked if i wanted to keep gina while i was in manila."you keep her. long time if you want. one day two day one week two week if you like. even you can travel with her if you like. up to you. if you happy to her then maybe you give her some peso to our family problem. ok?" i told auntie that gina appeared ****."not ****. she adult. she have i-d even." with that, auntie grabbed gina's purse, opened it, and turned it inside out on the bed. out fell a p20 note, an i-d, a pair of panties, and lipstick. i checked the i-d, it showed gina (who said before she was 23) to have just turned 20. auntie said that i could send gina home anytime i no longer wanted her, and i should give her p500 for bus to get home, and i could send any amount for the family problem that i desired."if you not happy my niece you give her bus money only. if you happy to her you give a more. no worry." i hesitated, which was met with: "you no want gina. you want carol? she 16 only but she make you a happy." i was stunned at the offer. again this must have appeared to auntie as hesitation: "ok. you want both girl? you keep both girl. no worry to you."
JamesXBrown
12-31-21, 19:32
I am curious. What chat site were you using?More importantly, why didn't he check her ID before she got on the bus? It would have saved a lot of the subsequent shennanigans.
More importantly, why didn't he check her ID before she got on the bus? It would have saved a lot of the subsequent shennanigans.Unfortunately the age question was commonly ignored by girls. I had a similar experience few years ago. Met a girl 19 years old fairly okay looking and invited her to a hotel I was staying. Hotels at that time did not care and security did not check anybody. The girl came with another girl and knocked on my door. Upon opening the door I was surprised. Before letting them in I asked for both I. D and they did not have any and they promised they are above 18 years of age. Dating site girl wanted to take a shower and went to the bathroom. Other girl laid with me on the bed and started kissing me. I started kissing her boobs. Before I removed her pants I asked her again how old she was. She said 17. I immediately yelled at the girl in the bathroom to finish her shower and get dressed. I told her why she would bring in underage girl. She apologized profusely saying other girl just tagged along looking for some money. She also said it is okay. But I kicked both of them out with some money.
After this I make sure girls have official I. D to stay with me. On chatting if they did not have I have sent them 500 pesos to get one before I come. At that time it cost only 200 pesos get official police I. D. It takes about 6 weeks. Nowadays security always checks I. D if you stay in upscale hotels. They can spot fake I. D.
Unfortunately the age question was commonly ignored by girls....While some girls may be malicious, it's also very common for girls who are "running" 18, ie 18 next birthday, to consider and describe themselves as 18.
Safest to ask first or just focus on those who say they are 20 or above.
Enjoy. G.
Beware, the Philippines authorities will hunt the sex abuser down even he escaped to his home country.
https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1151722
Big Kahuna
01-03-22, 18:36
Yeah, that's right. It's Covid induced inflation and the Korean owners are looking to clean up. In addition to the 12,000 peso for the girl + tip, also factor in lady drinks at exorbitant cost, beers for your self, plus dinner. These provincial hotties might only eat rice and vegetables back home in their villages, but they develop expensive and sophisticated palates whenever a foreigner is around. You will be up for a nice steak dinner or a hotel dinner buffet. Yep, all up it's going to cost a lot. But it will still be cheaper than wherever you're coming from.I just was in Thailand. A lot cheaper there.
Soapy Smith
01-03-22, 23:08
Beware, the Philippines authorities will hunt the sex abuser down even he escaped to his home country. https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1151722A couple thoughts. This guy could have been one of ours. Does anybody come to mind who was active in this forum and then suddenly dropped out of sight about last March?
Second thought: maybe the guy worked for USAID, in which case this reinforces the idea of USAID as a criminal enterprise as another poster has suggested.
But reference to the US Embassy reminds me of a situation from about 15 years ago. I was staying for a few nights at Boulevard Mansion, a run-down hotel on Roxas Boulevard kitty-corner from the Embassy and a three minute walk from LA Cafe. On a Saturday morning I walked across Roxas to the "Baywalk" area. Lito Atienza was Manila mayor at the time and had gotten a bunch of small eateries and other entertainment to set up shop there. A young female approached me and asked if I wanted a massage. She looked young to me but insisted she wasn't underage. I asked if she had ID. She said she didn't but her friend had ID. She pointed to a woman, perhaps 30ish, standing about 20 meters away. This woman was watching us intently. I considered that she might have been a mamasan type, or perhaps part of a team (with the girl) trying to entrap me. I decided the risk wasn't worth it and walked away.
Considering that my situation took place a couple hundred meters from the Embassy is a reminder that even well-placed public servants (maybe even British royalty) aren't immune to the underage problem. It's possible the guy in this news release didn't know she was underage, but he was still very foolish to have taken the risk. If you're not sure, walk away.
It's possible the guy in this news release didn't know she was underage, but he was still very foolish to have taken the risk. If you're not sure, walk away.
He worked at the Embassy Definitely knows the underaged sex laws, how can he be so ignorant to overlook the child's age?
Another Spaniard was also similarly charged, involving the same girl.
I read somewhere the 2 men know each other.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mb.com.ph/2021/10/29/ex-american-diplomat-cheves-extradition-to-face-criminal-charges-in-ph-depends-on-us-case/%3famp
GoodEnough
01-04-22, 04:23
USAID, both in the Philippines and around the world, does not operate its programs directly, and in fact—relative to the size of its programs—has a relatively small staff, most of whom are nationals of the countries in which the agency operates. In many countries USAID does not operate within US Embassy compounds, but has its own offices located elsewhere. Indeed that was the case for decades here in the Philippines, until USAID operations were moved inside of the compound about a decade ago. More importantly, implementation of USAID's programs is performed by contractors—all of them US development companies—selected for specific projects through a highly competitive bidding process. Having worked for 20+ years for one of the larger contractors, and for 10 years prior to that for an even larger contractor, I can state with relative certainty that the engineers, psychologists, sociologists, architects, political scientists and economists with whom I worked over the years, bore no more relationship to the CIA than the OP's contentions bear to reality.
Veering away from the nonsensical conspiracy rankings, it appears that the inexorable Omicron wave is imminent here. MetroManila has now been placed on Level 3 alert, which will likely mean more restrictions on movements and tighter controls on businesses. ICUs in the NCR have begun to fill after a couple of months of relative calm. Here in Davao, where the reported cases of Omicron remain small, Davao Doctors Hospital has just re-opened its COVID ward having closed it a month or so ago, and the city administration has begun a widespread booster campaign.
GE.
Soapy Smith
01-04-22, 16:26
He worked at the Embassy Definitely knows the underaged sex laws, how can he be so ignorant to overlook the child's age?
Another Spaniard was also similarly charged, involving the same girl.
I read somewhere the 2 men know each other.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mb.com.ph/2021/10/29/ex-american-diplomat-cheves-extradition-to-face-criminal-charges-in-ph-depends-on-us-case/%3fampD, thanks for sharing this. I hope these guys get what they deserve, but knowledge of the law is only part of the story. Knowledge about the girl in the story is the other part, although if she was only 16, it's hard to believe he was unaware she was underage.
Interestingly, the accused American was only in the Philippines for five months. If the two men knew each other, as D suggests, the story provides a cautionary tale about accepting digits from other foreign mongers.
I confess I am disturbed by what's happening in this online version of the Manila Bulletin. The site seems to be totally infiltrated with pop-up advertisements and other junk, and this particular "article" doesn't have much substance to it. Perhaps the problem is that this particular gateway goes through google. I read that the Bulletin has overtaken the Inquirer as the largest circulation English language newspaper in the country. Am I missing something?
Soapy Smith
01-04-22, 16:39
Having worked for 20+ years for one of the larger contractors, and for 10 years prior to that for an even larger contractor, I can state with relative certainty that the engineers, psychologists, sociologists, architects, political scientists and economists with whom I worked over the years, bore no more relationship to the CIA than the OP's contentions bear to reality.GE.GE, et al., please understand that I was being totally facetious about the possibility that the accused pedophile worked for USAID. As I pointed out in another thread, the OP's assertion about the CIA as Mafia was sourced from a "news" outlet hosted by the Venezuelan government and initiated by Hugo Chavez in 2007.
Sometimes facetiousness confuses the underlying story. I apologize for accidentally allowing a conspiracy theory to gain traction. Please note that conspiracies are easily hatched from both the political right and the political left.
WestCoast1
01-04-22, 18:13
He worked at the Embassy Definitely knows the underaged sex laws, how can he be so ignorant to overlook the child's age?
Another Spaniard was also similarly charged, involving the same girl.
I read somewhere the 2 men know each other.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mb.com.ph/2021/10/29/ex-american-diplomat-cheves-extradition-to-face-criminal-charges-in-ph-depends-on-us-case/%3fampInteresting. In the Spaniard's case, his accuser recanted and attempted to desist:
However, Villar said the RTC found the motion unmeritorious, citing jurisprudence which provides that as a general rule, courts view unfavorably affidavits of desistance or a recantation of a victims testimony, since they can be easily be obtained xxx and that such affidavits are viewed with suspicion and reservation
Also, the Presiding Judge stated that the dismissal of a child abuse case is prohibited if made solely on the basis of an affidavit of desistance or recantation submitted by the child and/or the childs family, citing the Protocol for Case Management of Child Victims of Abuse, Neglect, and Exploitation, and DOJ Circular No. 2002-54, she added.
Question: If ever there is a misunderstanding, extortion on the part of the complainant (in the case of a minor, on the part of the parents possibly), or other thing, how does one put a stop to legal proceedings where the victim recants or says the accused is innocent? While the State might have an obligation to investigate or even prosecute in certain instances where the victim refuses to file a complaint, recanting via affidavit signed in front of Court officers goes further: It would seem to exonerate the accused prior to conviction. One of you legal-minded fellas explain it to me.
WestCoast1
01-08-22, 19:09
G'day gents. Hot little morsel for your perusal; nearly perfectly-formed sub 5-footer. Exactly what you are hoping for here.
Hi all,
OK, long time lurker, time to give something back to this wonderful forum. Hopefully you find my posts, useful, entertaining and informative.
The saga of the blue balls (part 1).
I arrived into Manila in Q3 of 2021, having an impressive set of pandemic induced blue balls that really needed some pressure relief I set out on a mission to try and not explode by the first lady to touch me just to perform another nasal swab! Fate however decided to really test my perseverance, as before I got out of quarantine all of Manila was introduced to alert level 4 for the first time.
For those not here, alert level 4 means all bars and in dining restaurants are closed, this is important as it makes finding ladies to be with all the more difficult (excluding online dating). It also means that hotels and most resident complexes simply don't allow visitors which adds to the challenge.
Luckily I had been to Manila pre-pandemic so still had a few contacts which I had remained in contact with during my time away, which took care of my first challenge.
My second challenge was to find somewhere to find somewhere to have my lady friend take care of my blue balls, this actually turned out initially to be a bit of a problem.
To understand this second challenge, most of my lady friends who worked in and around Makati pre-pandemic, had moved back to their homes (outskirts of Manila) and given the strict approach to lockdown level 4, which included police checkpoints to limit movement, vaccine checks (this was when less than 10% of the population was vaccinated) and the general fear around, when I asked my lady friends for solutions they were unable to provide any.
So, I opted to try and resolve this myself, where I was staying it wasn't allowed for visitors, so hunting online I tried Agoda and AirBnB, along with any suggestions from my lady friends, one of whom suggested a well-known short term hotel Sogo. I called the hotel and was told sure I could book in but would need to be there for 10 days quarantine which seemed a bit excessive for a few hours of fun.
Agoda listed many hotels that you could book for a single night, but after calling 6-10 different ones, the pattern was the same, many were re-purposed into quarantine hotels and that was the only business they were open to at that time, if you were coming from within country you would still need to quarantine (only for level 4).
AirBnB was a lot more interesting, some places simply hadn't updated their status as not being available (didn't want the hassle), some would rent to you, but no visitors allowed, and then we had those who just didn't give a sh*t and wanted to make money. Well, I was desperate, vaccinated and needed relief so I struck a deal with one of the last group and received very detailed instructions on how to just walk by security, what to say if asked was I new, don't check in, go to the door and so on. Very exciting for more than one reason, price for the 1 night was I think around 4 K paseos (yes expensive, but it was all that was available at the time).
With the where and when sorted out, I just needed to secure my lady friend, I was super clear, I explained that I wanted her all night, I would pay a premium (6 K), pre pandemic I used to pay 2-4 K depending on duration and performance, and the deal was struck, she wanted me to tried go with her cousin who looked a bit tempting, I was given two options, one young (about 19-20) and the other older about 25-26 my friend was 22 I think. I chose the younger one and was assured that I would have a great time.
So the day (Friday) same for the deed, I turned up, the taxi with the lady turned up, and. The older cousin got out. WTF. Ah well, blue balls couldn't be turned back at this point, so we then proceeded into the room, which turned out to be a large tower block of small apartments, that was being used by a surprisingly large number of "military" that was drafted in to help enforce level 4 lockdown rules (the irony). So we get to the room, and 45 min later I was in a great mood, the older cousin might actually be a keeper, so feeling a bit hungry I opted to go and get a pizza for dinner before round 2, 3 and so on. Upon getting back and finishing the pizza, just as I was trying to initiate round two, I was informed by the older cousin that she would be going home now. WTF. This was not what was agreed, so needless to say, while a little less under pressure, I was not happy. To be continued.
That night I returned to where I was staying and promptly informed my lady friend that I was very unhappy with the whole cousin setup, I informed her of the hassle I went through to find and book a place and that while the deed was good, it wasn't what I needed to properly take care of my severe blue balls.
My lady friend had the right reaction and immediately begged forgiveness and was willing to do anything to make up for my disappointment. She offered to find a venue and would personally come to take care of me herself, things were looking up, even if I was paying a premium for the experience.
I said OK, come and take care of me, so we arranged to meet near P. Burgos street, close to a famous hotel that is "so good", I turned up and then so did my date on Saturday, she said that she heard that a short term hotel was still in action, so I said OK, let's try, as we walked to the hotel, it must have been obvious from my massive blue balls why we were going there, but before we got to the door we got ushered into a taxi, with an explanation of "no charge, we bring you", so we were dropped extremely close, but back street and then issued into a lobby where I was informed, to present ID, vaccine papers and 3.6 K (I think) for the room which would be for an overnight stay, although we were not going to stay overnight, the 3.6 K included (included 1 k deposit which I would get back if we didn't wreck the room.).
So 5 hours later, after and an excessive amount of energetic sex and several pops, I was finally relieved of the ownership of blue balls (RIP). My lady friend had redeemed herself, and given me faith back in her services, we headed back to reception where I received my 1 K deposit back and was informed that next time I would receive a discount.
And do you know what? I did actually receive discounts in return visits and also free "upgrades", so much so that I honestly thought I was going to get issued a frequent flyer card.
I am not naming specifics too much given that Manila is at high risk of returning to L4 given the current rise in COVID numbers, so I need to keep options open in case I am forced to repeat the above story.
WestCoast1
01-14-22, 22:44
So 5 hours later, after and an excessive amount of energetic sex and several pops, I was finally relieved of the ownership of blue balls (RIP). G: Great boots-on-the-ground reporting.
Gents, this honey is laying-in-wait for the phellas to return. Seems to like multiple vaxxings. Not sure if 'spirited' or 'caliente' is a better descriptor for this mocha sweetie. Hard to shake the smile from her face.
GoodEnough
01-16-22, 12:30
Philippines has just announced that it will start allowing the entry of fully vaccinated foreigners into the country on February 18. Here’s the link: https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1165425?fbclid=IwAR1JoJczKiKIM3hgpU0_XQDw0Yy8KCZv1Rr55oLb3xXxwQpkAH5Cs-gILoo
GE
Soapy Smith
01-17-22, 07:28
Gents, this honey is laying-in-wait for the phellas to return. Double-checking your spelling. Did you mean pfellas or phallus?
WestCoast1
01-17-22, 10:00
Double-checking your spelling. Did you mean pfellas or phallus?Haha YES I DID!
GoodEnough
01-17-22, 11:05
Evidently, the link I posted, though published by the government, is not entirely clear, and is meant to apply only to those coming for medical visits and urgent / humanitarian missions, though that's not stated in the announcement. Regular "leisure" tourism is still not permitted and there's been no decision yet made on when the country will open again for tourists. I misinterpreted the announcement, and probably should not have posted it until I had sought clarification from those involved in the ongoing discussions. Evidently no one has a firm idea on even an approximate date for opening to tourists.
GE.
Albert9989
01-17-22, 13:14
Evidently, the link I posted, though published by the government, is not entirely clear, and is meant to apply only to those coming for medical visits and urgent / humanitarian missions, though that's not stated in the announcement. Regular "leisure" tourism is still not permitted and there's been no decision yet made on when the country will open again for tourists. I misinterpreted the announcement, and probably should not have posted it until I had sought clarification from those involved in the ongoing discussions. Evidently no one has a firm idea on even an approximate date for opening to tourists..Thanks and don't worry too much, you helped to understand how unclear can be these official statements!
They say foreign, foreigners, and in one place foreign nationals!
That's the key we have to look for in order to understand what they say.
Evidently, the link I posted, though published by the government, is not entirely clear, and is meant to apply only to those coming for medical visits and urgent / humanitarian missions, though that's not stated in the announcement. Regular "leisure" tourism is still not permitted and there's been no decision yet made on when the country will open again for tourists. I misinterpreted the announcement, and probably should not have posted it until I had sought clarification from those involved in the ongoing discussions. Evidently no one has a firm idea on even an approximate date for opening to tourists.
GE.Thanks for the clarification. I went crazy with blue balls looking for any information. All the girls are eagerly waiting for me or the money although I presume it is the latter.
WestCoast1
01-17-22, 16:09
I went crazy with blue balls looking for any information.Wondering why. . .
Dear Santa,
You forgot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfpnDPDvMec
Thanks for the clarification. I went crazy with blue balls looking for any information. All the girls are eagerly waiting for me or the money although I presume it is the latter.
Evidently, the link I posted, though published by the government, is not entirely clear, and is meant to apply only to those coming for medical visits and urgent / humanitarian missions, though that's not stated in the announcement. Regular "leisure" tourism is still not permitted and there's been no decision yet made on when the country will open again for tourists. I misinterpreted the announcement, and probably should not have posted it until I had sought clarification from those involved in the ongoing discussions. Evidently no one has a firm idea on even an approximate date for opening to tourists..GE.
I'm not sure how to interpret all of this. "Evidently" is similar to "assuming" or "presuming". I learned a looooong time ago not to assume or presume anything. LOL Yes, "regular leisure tourism is still not permitted". But the announcement states that opening up would be in the middle of February. As demonstrated time and time again, that is plenty of time to reverse course on multiple occasions. FWIW, I tried calling the PI consulate offices in Los Angeles and San Franfreako to get an "official" clarification and was stonewalled with recorded menu messages. There is nothing in the referenced announcement that limits visits (beginning in February) to "medical visits and urgent / humanitarian missions". Since making your original posting, what made you backtrack a bit?
Thanks.
SS.
Wondering why...Either way, certainly "titillating". (adjective. Arousing mild sexual excitement or interest; salacious.).
SS.
GoodEnough
01-18-22, 13:03
I spoke with someone who helped to create the message who clarified it for me. The words you put in quotes reflect the gist of what I was told. I was also told that a decision on when to start admitting tourists is still being discussed and that no decisions have been reached.
GE.
GE.
I'm not sure how to interpret all of this. "Evidently" is similar to "assuming" or "presuming". I learned a looooong time ago not to assume or presume anything. LOL Yes, "regular leisure tourism is still not permitted". But the announcement states that opening up would be in the middle of February. As demonstrated time and time again, that is plenty of time to reverse course on multiple occasions. FWIW, I tried calling the PI consulate offices in Los Angeles and San Franfreako to get an "official" clarification and was stonewalled with recorded menu messages. There is nothing in the referenced announcement that limits visits (beginning in February) to "medical visits and urgent / humanitarian missions". Since making your original posting, what made you backtrack a bit?
Thanks.
SS.
WestCoast1
01-18-22, 14:47
Either way, certainly "titillating". (adjective. Arousing mild sexual excitement or interest; salacious.).
Was She Cold or Just Excited?I can 'assume' that she was not too cold (she is / was vivacious, humorous, happy, and narcissistic). That leaves. . . Well use your imagination.
Here is another one of my gals, also 'titillating' (and not too cold).
WestCoast1
01-18-22, 16:58
GE.
I'm not sure how to interpret all of this. "Evidently" is similar to "assuming" or "presuming". I learned a looooong time ago not to assume or presume anything. SNIP Since making your original posting, what made you backtrack a bit? SS.
I spoke with someone who helped to create the message who clarified it for me. The words you put in quotes reflect the gist of what I was told. I was also told that a decision on when to start admitting tourists is still being discussed and that no decisions have been reached.GE.Talking to pinoy government officials, whether LGU or above, whether in Phils or in other places, is HIT-and-MISS. I capitalized that on purpose. It can be sketchy information, wrong information (a good bet), or information that they themselves might change on the fly. Getting solid intel from them can be impossible, even for the simplest of requests. For example you go to your Brgy hall and ask how to deal with a situation. The lady there tells you to go to the Dept. Of Trade to deal with your problem. She walks away and you speak to a Brgy guy, and he tells you to talk to the Dept. Of Health. You taxi to the DT and explain your problem, only to be told that they don't deal with your kind of issue, and they direct you to the DOH. You taxi to the DOH and explain your situation, only to be told that they don't handle that kind of problem: "You try the DT maybe". Maybe?
Recently I transmitted to another expat who has lived in Phils much longer than me, a story about how my local Brgy office had effed up a situation for me, repeatedly (specifics not mentioned here). It was one of the worst cases of multiple incompetent LGU and Mayoral personnel, and poorly run systems, that I have ever seen. It threw hundreds (dare I say a thousand) persons into disarray. Multiple Brgy personnel gave conflicting advice on what to do, and the Mayor's office forgot (failed) to publicize the bad situation, and failed to deal with it after it happened. When I wrote and described it to our expat friend, his simple (and completely correct) reply was such as this: "Another disaster, a tragedy. But not surprising, as you are talking about people who could not organize a bake sale". You know the old line: "Its not a bug, its a feature", meaning that this kind of thing is a way of life in Phils.
When GE is describing the situation with the announcement, its very understandable. One government department decided to publicize some upcoming thing (good), but they did it in English (should be good, but not necessarily, translation difficulties). They didn't explain it very well (bad). Leaving everyone confused. Its not a bug, its a feature. Phall in line, phella.
FWIW, I tried calling the PI consulate offices in Los Angeles and San Franfreako to get an "official" clarification and was stonewalled with recorded menu messages.As all government offices are on reduced hours, reduced workforce, reduced clientelle (50% or 30% at any given time, covid-case related), and mandatory online appointment scheduling, its a fair bet that they are doing that at all consulates or Phils government offices the world over. So much for walking into the Phils Consulate on La Brea in LOS Angeles to apply for a visa. And so much for phoning them, you might need to make an online appointment.
Sammon, don't lose your faith in Santa. Keep checking your stockings.
Dear Santa,
You forgot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfpnDPDvMec
Talking to pinoy government officials
Talking to pinoy government officials, whether LGU or above, whether in Phils or in other places, is HIT-and-MISS. I capitalized that on purpose. It can be sketchy information, wrong information (a good bet), or information that they themselves might change on the fly. Getting solid intel from them can be impossible, even for the simplest of requests. My experience has been that often Filipinos have a difficult time delivering bad news. In those situations they hem and haw and become evasive rather than saying, "Look pal, your shit out of luck."
Soapy Smith
01-20-22, 21:04
My experience has been that often Filipinos have a difficult time delivering bad news. In those situations they hem and haw and become evasive rather than saying, "Look pal, your shit out of luck."Yes. They will say "maybe" when the answer is no, because they don't want to deliver bad news. I assume it also explains some lying. They sometimes lie to avoid delivering bad news and / or to avoid they or the other person losing face.
WestCoast1
01-21-22, 17:11
Sammon, don't lose your faith in Santa. Keep checking your stockings.Sammon never loses faith. I suggest he take matters into his own hands when he return. "Grab the bull by the horns", so to speak. If you catch my drift.
Hey, who's taking that picture. . . ?
Member #4794
01-30-22, 11:23
No outside food? Single person occupancy?
This notice sounds like the disclaimer you get when you book a Pay-to-stay cell in LA county jail the pay-to-stay room at the LA county jail actually sounds more inviting than they make these rooms sound.
https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-pay-to-stay-jails/
Needless to say I canceled that one immediately until they update these policies. Smh.
WestCoast1
01-30-22, 15:34
No outside food? Single person occupancy?
This notice sounds like the disclaimer you get when you book a Pay-to-stay cell in LA county jail the pay-to-stay room at the LA county jail actually sounds more inviting than they make these rooms sound.
https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-pay-to-stay-jails/
Needless to say I canceled that one immediately until they update these policies. Smh.I am guessing that is from one of the NCR's many quarantine-only hotels. I believe I reported previously that all 10 of the NCR's Red Planet hotels (and many other chains) have gone to Q-only. They are not for travelers, they are for persons needing to isolate. That might include returning OFW, or anyone who tests positive.
I dislike saying it, but I think inbound tourists next month are in for interesting times regarding accomodations. PLEASE contact your hotel or apartment manager, or condo host in advance to ask about policies that might be of importance to you (but maybe not covered in the Agoda description). Items such as:
1) Number of guests allowed.
2) Medical requirements for you and your guests.
3) Can the guest come / go (which is what we typically want: F / F / F), or does the residence (owner / host) want the guest to live there (what we don't want)? This information is known the host, residents and Admin, but often not spelled out in the hotel or airbb description. See * below.
4) Is this facility an ROF- or Q-faciltiy (see MM's pic)?
5) Does this area have a curfew (or when was the last time there was a curfew, and what time does / did it start)?
6) Same for alcohol ban.
7) What is the current Alert level? Has this residence been locked down before?
* Side note. Made an Agoda hotel reservation in the NCR, 15 months after the pandemic started. The hotel was nicer than the usual ST places that I had been using so I decided an over-nighter with my lady would be a good change-of-pace. The room has 2 large beds and can be reserved for 1, 2, 3, or 4 persons, with a tiny price increase for the 3- or 4-person option, so I clicked 4 persons. I was considering a 3-some as a possibility. I had one regular gal inbound for the night and was considering contacting a second gal (who had 3-somed with the first gal before). Once at the hotel, checking in at the counter with girl #1, I mentioned to the clerk that 'Jenny' might be joining us later. "No sir. Maximum 2 persons per room. Hotel policy during Covid". Hey, Agoda says 4 persons. "No sir. Last week we were ECQ and it was 1 person per room. Now its not ECQ, maximum 2 persons. Only". The manager came out of the back room and confirmed that info.
Hey, guy, why does Agoda say 4 person? I paid for up to 4 persons. "That agoda is from before the pandemic. Not now". You haven't updated it in 15 months? "No sir". Then I want a partial refund for the 2-to-4 person upgrade. "Yes its fine. But you will not bring additional person here. This is pandemic!" Everything worked out fine with one girl.
** Separately, google map your residence location, and find the surrounding Sogo and Victoria Court hotels. Once your boots are on the ground, ask your door guard if there are other ST hotels in the area.
*** Contacted recently privately by chaps who have apparently not been RTTF. They think that now that they will be allowed in as tourists, that 'the pandemic crap is done'. DO SEND US SOME DESCRIPTIVE FIELD REPORTS once you are BOTG.
WestCoast1
01-30-22, 18:21
7) What is the current Alert level? Has this residence been locked down before?I forgot to add:
8) Amenities. Throughout the NCR (and many provinces), amenities such as gym, pool, and basketball courts have been closed for the pandemic. On occasion I saw this or that residence open their gym or pool (with restrictions, ie not more than 4 persons in the gym or pool at once, and only the gym or the pool was open -- not both). That would usually last for just a few weeks. Birch Tower in Malate opened their pool briefly in August. My residence opened their gym for a while. Ask your airbnb host or call the hotel in advance.
Dashing Don
01-30-22, 20:37
I booked 4 nights at the Peninsula. Who knows how it will work out with the usual parade of sex partners coming and going. I'd rather find out myself than wait at home for the all clear which might be months away.
Things are changing so fast that who knows. I sense a feeling of fatigue with the pandemic an also it appears to be waning.
If I got to do it in the bushes in Triangle park then so be it LOL.
Member #4794
01-30-22, 22:49
1) Number of guests allowed.
2) Medical requirements for you and your guests.
3) Can the guest come / go (which is what we typically want: F / F / F), or does the residence (owner / host) want the guest to live there (what we don't want)? This information is known the host, residents and Admin, but often not spelled out in the hotel or airbb description. See * below.
4) Is this facility an ROF- or Q-faciltiy (see MM's pic)?
5) Does this area have a curfew (or when was the last time there was a curfew, and what time does / did it start)?
6) Same for alcohol ban.
7) What is the current Alert level? Has this residence been locked down before?
MY HOPE is they become more realistic about tourists expectations and do away with some or all of these nonsensical policies since this is endemic now we need policies that live with this going forward. Just as they did away with the stop light scheme, they will need to retire these alert levels as well as the fucking liquor ban. While I appreciate that this is the situation in the phils now and it is not Feb 10 yet and they keep moving the goal post however with the influx of tourists this can't be the norm going forward. It might have been possible with pliable locals but entitled Gen Z vloggers and your run of the mill monger are not going to obey any of these rules, I know I won't. I won't be there until April so by then my hope is that they undo all of these horrible ineffective restrictions, however this is the Philippines we are taking about so it wouldn't surprised me if they added MORE restrictions not less when the influx of tourists arrive. I heard on a news cast that the tourists are exempt from the passenger limits they had set in place which is also a good sign.
MY HOPE is they become more realistic about tourists expectations and do away with some or all of these nonsensical policies since this is endemic now we need policies that live with this going forward. Just as they did away with the stop light scheme, they will need to retire these alert levels as well as the fucking liquor ban. While I appreciate that this is the situation in the phils now and it is not Feb 10 yet and they keep moving the goal post however with the influx of tourists this can't be the norm going forward. It might have been possible with pliable locals but entitled Gen Z vloggers and your run of the mill monger are not going to obey any of these rules, I know I won't. I won't be there until April so by then my hope is that they undo all of these horrible ineffective restrictions, however this is the Philippines we are taking about so it wouldn't surprised me if they added MORE restrictions not less when the influx of tourists arrive. I heard on a news cast that the tourists are exempt from the passenger limits they had set in place which is also a good sign.Half the bars that reopened when alert level 2 was released in November have closure orders placed on them for breaking rules of alert level 3 in January. Appreciate people being optimistic and getting here now opportunities available to them, hope they aren't in for disappointment. On plus side there's always PinaLove, WeChat and a SOGO.
It might have been possible with pliable locals but entitled Gen Z vloggers and your run of the mill monger are not going to obey any of these rules, I know I won't. I won't be there until April so by then my hope is that they undo all of these horrible ineffective restrictions....I'm looking forward to your April reports. Good luck with flying in and telling everyone that you don't need to abide by their rules but are entitled to unfettered access to girls, bars, hotels etc.
Old foreigners getting their dicks sucked for 1500 is sure to be a priority for setting Public Policy by then.
Enjoy. G. 😁.
I'm looking forward to your April reports. Good luck with flying in and telling everyone that you don't need to abide by their rules but are entitled to unfettered access to girls, bars, hotels etc.
Old foreigners getting their dicks sucked for 1500 is sure to be a priority for setting Public Policy by then.
Enjoy. G. 😁.Be sure to bring lots of $$$ for resolution fees.
WestCoast1
02-02-22, 02:34
MY HOPE is they become more realistic about tourists expectations It will be difficult to argue at the front door of a hotel, condo, or business, with a security guard armed with his covid-protection marching orders (not to mention his gun and taser), that you don't need that mask, or the mandatory hand sanitizer. Or that its stupid that you can't bring unregistered guests to your room. Or that your guest needs a negative PCR test. Or that you don't want to socially distance while waiting in line outside to get into the grocery store (or inside the Jollibee).
and do away with some or all of these nonsensical policies You are using logic. There is little of that to be found in Phils. Even government leaders might be superstitious and / or educated differently than you. He (or the security guard) might argue with you about the 'sense' of their policy, but it won't change the policy (or his mind). And the policy might change faster than Westy changes 3-somes.
since this is endemic now we need policies that live with this going forward. SNIP they will need to retire these alert levels as well as the fucking liquor ban. See the above. Someone else makes the policies and others enforce them, and yet others vote the policy makers into office. You and I are not part of that system. We are guests. Concentrate less on the policy madness, and concentrate on the Mocha-Madness. A nice BJ each day takes your mind off that.
😁 If anyone needs bond or bail money while incarcerated, I have low, low interest rates 😁.
* Side note. Made an Agoda hotel reservation in the NCR, 15 months after the pandemic started. The hotel was nicer than the usual ST places that I had been using so I decided an over-nighter with my lady would be a good change-of-pace. The room has 2 large beds and can be reserved for 1, 2, 3, or 4 persons, with a tiny price increase for the 3- or 4-person option, so I clicked 4 persons. I was considering a 3-some as a possibility. I had one regular gal inbound for the night and was considering contacting a second gal (who had 3-somed with the first gal before). Once at the hotel, checking in at the counter with girl #1, I mentioned to the clerk that 'Jenny' might be joining us later. "No sir. Maximum 2 persons per room. Hotel policy during Covid". Hey, Agoda says 4 persons. "No sir. Last week we were ECQ and it was 1 person per room. Now its not ECQ, maximum 2 persons. Only". The manager came out of the back room and confirmed that info.
Hey, guy, why does Agoda say 4 person? I paid for up to 4 persons. "That agoda is from before the pandemic. Not now". You haven't updated it in 15 months? "No sir". Then I want a partial refund for the 2-to-4 person upgrade. "Yes its fine. But you will not bring additional person here. This is pandemic!" Everything worked out fine with one girl.And on a side note, remember all of those hotels that suddenly shut down but didn't update with Agoda. Those places are still closed yet with this new influx of tourists might start to get booked once again. Plenty of stories of tourists showing up to boarded up hotels.
Also read the fine print on any Airbnb you might want to book, they vary allot in the wording. Contact the owner before you can't cancel to make sure of their rules.
In planning my future travel, does anyone know about bus service from Manila to Angeles City? Bus company, hours and costs?
In planning my future travel, does anyone know about bus service from Manila to Angeles City? Bus company, hours and costs?A few years ago, (January 2020) I took Victory from the Victory Liner Pasay Station. It wasn't far from the MNL airport and it wasn't more than 100 pesos to get there in the yellow taxi. The bus ticket to Dau (Angeles) was about 140 or 150 pesos. I think the buses leave every 45 minutes or 1 hour but I'm not entirely sure.
Hope this helps!
Shining Wit
02-03-22, 13:55
In planning my future travel, does anyone know about bus service from Manila to Angeles City? Bus company, hours and costs?As you asked in the Angeles thread regarding bus service from T3 at NAIA, I will include it here. According to Google maps, there is a bus stop on T3 departure road serving Clark. The linked departure list does not indicate any service between 2000 and 2130, although it suggests that it is 24 hours. A dim memory confirms Victory Liner as the operator, but a similar memory suggests the Angeles terminal was in Clark itself, leaving the usual hassle with the 'last mile'. The service did not appear on Victory's website.
Regarding Manila generally, the difficulty is that not only is there no central bus station, but multiple companies operate northwards through Angeles (or Dau, which is the timetable stop) but a number do from multiple terminals. These seem to be clustered along EDSA, particularly in Pasay (junction with Taft Ave) and Cubao (near Cubao MRT station) or in Caloocan. My suggestion would be to check these areas on Google maps or similar,(you may need to scroll in and out to bring them up) and then check websites. On the hotels thread, you seemed to have decided in the Peninsula, so I would recommend Cubao, as it is closer to the NLEX, although I don't know if the North-South connector has made a difference. In that area, I found Genesis, Baliwag, 5 Star, Partas, ALPS and Victory Liner, all of which I have seen heading North.
From the airport, Pasay is the better bet.
One word of caution regarding online timetables. I have only used Victory Liner, so this might not be common across all companies. All routes are shown as Cubao-Olongapo, Pasay-Baguio, etc. So Dau / Clark / Angeles hardly feature, you need to know where the final destination is. Somewhere like Tarlac or Baguio are easy, but Olongapo via SCTEX goes via Dau but non-SCTEX do not, and you don, t want to be waiting for an extra hour or so.
Victory Liner show fares of php 139 from Pasay and Cubao, and the timetable suggests that departures times are dictated by reasonable arrival times at the final destination.
I hope this helps not only Dg8787,but anybody else considering using bus travel.
Thank you gents for the info.
It has been 2 years now since I was in PH. I remember now that I took the Genesis bus from Terminal 3 to SM Clark mall. The bus was parked at Arrivals Bay 14. My flight would arrive at 10 pm, buy me a Jollibee meal #3 and I would get on the bus. I am wondering if Genesis still have that service?
Shining Wit
02-03-22, 22:22
Thank you gents for the info.
It has been 2 years now since I was in PH. I remember now that I took the Genesis bus from Terminal 3 to SM Clark mall. The bus was parked at Arrivals Bay 14. My flight would arrive at 10 pm, buy me a Jollibee meal #3 and I would get on the bus. I am wondering if Genesis still have that service?I found this on the internet.
https://www.phbus.com/genesis-p2p-bus-service/
Have fun comparing the timetables! Don't shoot me, I'm only the messenger.
Thank you gents for the info.
It has been 2 years now since I was in PH. I remember now that I took the Genesis bus from Terminal 3 to SM Clark mall. The bus was parked at Arrivals Bay 14. My flight would arrive at 10 pm, buy me a Jollibee meal #3 and I would get on the bus. I am wondering if Genesis still have that service?Upon an online search Genesis bus is back in action but limited schedules. The latest bus is at 5:00 pm. I can double back from Makati for the bus or take a car / taxi to Angeles. I am guessing traffic is not as bad as before covid.
Member #4794
02-04-22, 00:44
Upon an online search Genesis bus is back in action but limited schedules. The latest bus is at 5:00 pm. I can double back from Makati for the bus or take a car / taxi to Angeles. I am guessing traffic is not as bad as before covid.Looks like you are correct about the reduced hours thankfully my flight lands during operating hours thanks for looking into that they may increase these hours as the tourists come back but that's a notable concern when booking a flight to phils. I have never actually used this shuttle I was looking forward to it this time around. I usually stay a few days in manila before heading to AC and take a taxi from the taxi mafia on P burgos street. I would keep my eye on Genesis's (https://www.facebook.com/GenesisTransportInc) FB feed for updates they are fairly active on FB.
Evidently, the link I posted, though published by the government, is not entirely clear, and is meant to apply only to those coming for medical visits and urgent / humanitarian missions, though that's not stated in the announcement. Regular "leisure" tourism is still not permitted and there's been no decision yet made on when the country will open again for tourists. I misinterpreted the announcement, and probably should not have posted it until I had sought clarification from those involved in the ongoing discussions. Evidently no one has a firm idea on even an approximate date for opening to tourists.
GE.Why wouldn't leisure tourism be allowed? I chatted with a couple of Filipinas and at least they said "Watch the news they will open for everyone".
Of course it doesn't mean that the pandemic is over and life will be normal and free but it is not supposed to be medical tourism only etc. I think.
Looks like you are correct about the reduced hours thankfully my flight lands during operating hours thanks for looking into that they may increase these hours as the tourists come back but that's a notable concern when booking a flight to phils. I have never actually used this shuttle I was looking forward to it this time around. I usually stay a few days in manila before heading to AC and take a taxi from the taxi mafia on P burgos street. I would keep my eye on Genesis's (https://www.facebook.com/GenesisTransportInc) FB feed for updates they are fairly active on FB.Taxis from Makati to T3 Arrivals bay 14 are quick and easy using the expressway. Hardest part is explaining to the driver you are going to ARRIVALS with your bags and not departures! Make sure the driver uses the left median and not the far right median for arrivals. This will bypass all the other bottleneck arrival bays.
Albert9989
02-04-22, 01:15
Why wouldn't leisure tourism be allowed? I chatted with a couple of Filipinas and at least they said "Watch the news they will open for everyone".
Of course it doesn't mean that the pandemic is over and life will be normal and free but it is not supposed to be medical tourism only etc. I think.Give a look at the thread Phil General Infos, I guess you will find more accurate news.
Give a look here also https://parispe.dfa.gov.ph/.
And here for the full official text https://www.officialgazette.gov.ph/downloads/2022/01jan/20220127-RESO-159-RRD.pdf.
Hope these website and text are valid, please correct me if they are not.
Upon an online search Genesis bus is back in action but limited schedules. The latest bus is at 5:00 pm. I can double back from Makati for the bus or take a car / taxi to Angeles. I am guessing traffic is not as bad as before covid.Unfortunately traffic is back to "normal".
South By Sw 3
02-04-22, 19:58
Unfortunately traffic is back to "normal".My friends in Manila said traffic has definitely bounced back, but not to the constant rush hour. They live in the CBD and have drivers, FWIW.
-South By SW 3 (and 2).
WestCoast1
02-06-22, 01:47
A 'little' something that brings morning joy. Twice. 4' 10", 80-ish lbs. My girls are the gifts that keep on giving.
Appreciate recommendations on a pub where I can find pretty girls and hook up.
Appreciate recommendations on a pub where I can find pretty girls and hook up.Read the forums and stop asking dumb questions. You know the drill if you been to Angeles like you said you were. Sheesh.
WestCoast1
02-09-22, 04:52
You know the drill if you been to Angeles like you said you were. Sheesh.Ya, what he said. Sheesh. Haha and enjoy this pic.
It's been a couple of weeks since I was at LA Café, but I am happy to report that it seems to have survived the pandemic so far anyway.
L. A Café located in Del Pilar St, Ermita (all the taxi drivers know it) which is a good 25 min drive from the center (BGC, Makati) without traffic and 1+ hours with traffic, it has been one of the more interesting places to visit in Manila since I started coming here.
For those who don't know, It is a fairly large venue with a upstairs supporting live music on weekends (and a small fee to go up) and also a rear dining / billiards area that was less busy than the main bar. Inside the main circular bar there was seating at the bar and also on small high tables along with a couple of billiard tables down the back, there were so busy they started to expand into the building across the street.
Pre-Pandemic typically customers would number 1-200 there was easily 2-300 ladies in there (maybe more) so something to suit all tastes.
The place was (still is, I guess) 24/7 for those interested and while there were times it got very busy, it was always open depending on when the urge took you to go there.
Pandemic times, the expansion into the building across the street was closed, and also the upstairs part was closed.
I was there a few times over both L3 and L2 lockdown alert levels (higher is more strict), and being a restaurant LA Café actually managed to stay open through-out although I did hear it was raided a few times.
During Alert level 3, they were mostly strict in checking vaccine documents, and having a reduced volume of customers inside, so mainly ladies were restricted and with the recent introduction of L3 for a short time it lead to a large group of ladies hanging around outside waiting a turn to go in, not sure if they had a rotation system, but I haven't seen anything like that before (more ladies on the street than inside).
For Alert level 2, things are more like normal, with up to 70% capacity allowed inside, so when it got busy once or twice when I was there during this time it really started to feel like old times, the only real difference being no upstairs.
As all the ladies in there are freelancers, there is no bar fine, although there is ladies drinks and the staff will also try their luck at getting you to buy some ladies drinks for them. Prices will vary a lot, so I recommend something like 2 K short time and 3-4 K long time, and then in the moment you need to decide what you want to do, currently it's a buyer's market, although beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
There is a short term hotel very close to LA Café (it's almost next door), there a room will cost you 600 Php for 6 hours and you can have a few guests if you like (I did during L3.).
I haven't explored the area around LA Café much so would be interested to hear from other forum members if there is anywhere worth visiting before or after LA Café, as it's a bit of a trip out of central Manila.
I am also looking forward to hearing more stories and experiences in those returning or choosing to visit LA Café for the first time, enjoy and stay safe.
I haven't explored the area around LA Café much so would be interested to hear from other forum members if there is anywhere worth visiting before or after LA Café, as it's a bit of a trip out of central Manila..My first and only visit to this place sure differs from your view. Me and my wingman grabbed a private taxi from Makati and he never asked if we'd pay the fare for the freeway, instead he took us down some of the wildest streets I've ever seen in my life. It being dark only intensified the trip. Houses built right up to the road, people cooking right outside on grills on the sidewalks. Some of the sketchiest area's I've ever been driven through and then you'd see a couple of the hottest girls walking along the road. This went on and on and didn't stop until he pulled in front of the LA Cafe. Explore the area? That's not for the faint of heart. Yeah the area around LA Cafe might not be the worst neighborhood but if you have money in your pocket (unlike the girls above) then its best to take a taxi. Inside the place was teaming with ladies, unfortunately the few cute ones were all at one table with some Asian guys at the time. The rest of the bar was pretty much filled with your 40 year old dredges who are still trying to sell what is 20 years past the expiration date. If your on a short vacation its not worth checking out this place but on a longer trip I can see checking it out at odd times just to see what there is to see. I even looked into staying at a hotel a short walk away, luckily I changed my mind at the last minute and stayed in Makati. Just outside the club the intersection was well lit but in every direction there was just blackness and in my imagination a que of muggers lined up ready to strike.
My first and only visit to this place sure differs from your view. Me and my wingman grabbed a private taxi from Makati and he never asked if we'd pay the fare for the freeway, instead he took us down some of the wildest streets I've ever seen in my life. It being dark only intensified the trip. Houses built right up to the road, people cooking right outside on grills on the sidewalks. Some of the sketchiest area's I've ever been driven through and then you'd see a couple of the hottest girls walking along the road. This went on and on and didn't stop until he pulled in front of the LA Cafe. Explore the area? That's not for the faint of heart. Yeah the area around LA Cafe might not be the worst neighborhood but if you have money in your pocket (unlike the girls above) then its best to take a taxi. Inside the place was teaming with ladies, unfortunately the few cute ones were all at one table with some Asian guys at the time. The rest of the bar was pretty much filled with your 40 year old dredges who are still trying to sell what is 20 years past the expiration date. If your on a short vacation its not worth checking out this place but on a longer trip I can see checking it out at odd times just to see what there is to see. I even looked into staying at a hotel a short walk away, luckily I changed my mind at the last minute and stayed in Makati. Just outside the club the intersection was well lit but in every direction there was just blackness and in my imagination a que of muggers lined up ready to strike.Yes, there are a few ways to get to La Café from Makati, I have been through at least 3-4 different routes from BGC / Makati over the years, LA Café is actually really close to the coast line, as shown in the map image, if you take the main road that follows the coast you will see several bars / clubs that are mid to up-market being costal facing, and then a short road into the venue itself, I have actually travelled in the route that you described as well and I agree, only seasoned folks might want to explore those streets; the other route I was on passed by, has a lot of Karaoke, bars and casinos which have a Arabic type feel, including a lot of hot ladies to be seen trying to entice customers, that area is very close to the location of LA Café, hence my question about was there anywhere else worth visiting in that area.
I do know that there were a number of night clubs in the area which range from mostly local to mixed customer bases, and in (a good few) years past there were some reports in this forum of some places worth visiting in that general area, but nothing in recent years.
The rest of the bar was pretty much filled with your 40 year old dredges who are still trying to sell what is 20 years past the expiration date.That made my day, LMAO.
Member #4794
02-10-22, 13:47
Are you one of the Lucky 200?
https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/philippines-welcomes-back-foreign-tourists-first-time-two-years-2022-02-10/
I managed to snag a discounted business class flight for the end of this month moving up my arrival date in phils by almost 2 months. I guess the airlines have decided to buy into the Philippines welcoming back tourists. Turkish airlines is the LONGEST possible way to the Philippines but I will be doing it in style due to them reinstating their promotional fares. That being said if you are on a "Tourist Visa" please share your experiences here. I would like to know if they changed anything for "tourists". I will of course provide a trip report as soon as I get there. I am bringing with me a few extra rapid tests just in case I run into some shenanigans and renewed my Cialis prescription. I know that the residents and balikbayans have been subjected to living hell but I would like to think that tourists remain the holy cash cow that are free to roam the streets fully unfettered. I purposely waited until until they revoked the jail sentence as a requirement to enter, all these hotels that got used to being jailers must switch gears. I am looking for non-Joseph Stalin run hotels that are not interested in taking away my civil liberties, if you happen to know of any hotels that have done away with the nasty grams please share as I've made over 5 hotel reservations all accompanied by the nastiest of memos promising to take away my civil liberties in their entirety far beyond the reach of the law which I would like to avoid. Now that the quarantine carrot has been snatched away we should see a pivot. This looks like this is happening gentlemen.
Their new a350-900 business class looking real nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuZuF0dDgLk
Member #4794
02-10-22, 14:12
As a side note I know that my comment about not obeying policy struck a nerve with some of the people here who have been putting up with this nonsense. I would however like to clear that up, I will obey the "LAW" where that is concerned. I will comply with any red tape I need to to remain in compliance. I will NOT however comply with any "policy" that precludes ones clival liberties to the extent that the law allows. While I can understand these establishments want to remain open so they have made efforts to comply with local restrictions, we must not allow them to get creative with the law and hold them to the fire when it comes to overzealous policy paid for by the "tourist", this pound of flesh needs to be paid by the establishments and have them compete for the tourist dollar and not pass this on to the tourist. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, I would encourage you the tourist to be as cantankerous and unaccommodating as possible (balikbayans and permanent residents have their residency to lose so it is understandable that they would not want to risk that) when it comes to their "extra" policies (I am ONLY referring to business / hotel policies that are not backed by law). And punish establishments with boycotts who would continue to infringe upon the tourists beyond the letter of the law. We must also promote establishments who respect the "tourist" and are "monger friendly" so would ask you to share your positive experiences so we can reward these business for making reasonable decisions. IF its a law do it, if it is NOT please don't. We willfully eschew the law when it comes to prostitution to get laid, I would think your civil liberties would be just as ripe a righteous cause.
WestCoast1
02-10-22, 14:37
I do know that there were a number of night clubs in the area which range from mostly local to mixed customer bases, and in (a good few) years past there were some reports in this forum of some places worth visiting in that general area, but nothing in recent years.Few more maps attached for the area of LAC.
Pic 1, LAC in the upper-left corner, Robinson's Malate upper-middle. Coming out of LAC you are standing on M. H. Del Pilar St. Turning right (follow the green arrow) and walking south on Del Pilar, eventually you come to the red arrows. Along those red arrow street areas you will find Korea-town and many KTV bars, filled with honies. However these are not gogo bars designed for easy chica take-out. These bars closed for over a year during lockdown, but last year around September they started to be re-constructed inside as restaurants. Then, many re-opened as such, or with pretty girls to sit and have a high-priced drink with. Many closed and re-opened with lockdown strictness. This area was vibrant* during pre-pandemic times.
Pic 2. Same area of LAC, a closer view. LAC is on Del Pilar St, at the corner of Salas St. Just 2 blocks from Robinson's Place Mall. The Shwarma place has good food (LAC serves food that is, well, fair). Last time I was in LAC was early November. I had been in several times from June-November. It was open at the time from 7 am-8 pm (curfew was of changing times), and was just a restaurant (the waitress emphasized that). There were no girls inside, just a few couples and business folk having lunch or dinner. When the flood returns, I am sure it will return to its glory days of 200 available chicas.
* Vibrant. Another word for loud, up all night, and SKETCHY. Lots of drug dealers and various peddlers in the area. Please read Breadman's description of his taxi ride. This area is not for the feint of heart. In fact, you might want to stay in your condo and order take-out. Regarding BM's description inside LAC, this seems to be typical to me, especially on a Friday / Saturday evening. Of the 200 or so ladies inside, you will find quite a variety of ages, body styles, tatoos, attitudes, clientelle and bargaining techniques, and so forth.
One pre-pandemic (1 month before lockdown) evening I rolled in at 2 am (jetlag), just to look around. Easily 150-200 ladies. I paid for my drink instantly instead of waiting for the bill, so I could walk around the place and not worry the waitress that I'd left without paying. I was approached by several fuglies, age 20-40-ish or more, offering overpriced ST (p3500 lowest offer from the fuglies) full of nonsense conditions: "Condom only, 1 pop, 1 hour, blah blah". I chatted up several lookers. In fact from walking the bar, upstairs and down, I saw 12-15 model-type lookers, and another 30-ish do-able spinners. One of the spinners was 21 and kept following me around, asking me if she could go with me (we exchanged phone numbers and I had her on a later date, and she became a regular). One of the lookers offered at LT for a very reasonable price. I realize that means that easily half or more of the ladies are not for me (and I have low standards). But it also means on a night like that (mid-week, with less ladies than the weekend), there is something there for everyone; assuming that you are willing to walk around the joint, chat up only the girls who strike your fancy, and you are willing to dicker with her. There is a good chance that lookers will want to start with a much higher price-point (say, p5 or 6 k for ST). You want a '9'? Pay up. You got a '9' before for a better (lower) price? Bully for you! But prices change constantly, depending on each girl's needs at the moment. There is something there for everyone, but you might have to dicker, and you might have to be honest with the girl in what you want. BTW I didn't take any girl that evening as I didn't go inside for the nawty, I was just reconnoitering.
Also in the area, Robinson's Mall has 3-5 walkers in the mall starting about 11 am. Outside on Pedro Gil, at the steps in front of Araya resto, are 3-10 available ladies, starting around 3 pm. Curfew (if there is one).
Member #4794
02-10-22, 15:32
... fuglies... nonsense conditions: "Condom only, 1 pop, 1 hour, blah blah". .I enjoy staying at the Sunny Bay Suites so I partake from LAC every now and then given its extremely close proximity you can almost smell the debauchery from the room. But at LAC they always want me to pay their bill on top of their fee. As far as I know LAC makes them buy a drink to be in the bar or some kind of fee. Manila based hookers almost always have conditions which is why I do less mongering in manila. Although girls in manila will let you fondle them which is an interesting differentiation. I NEVER NEVER go into any KTVs in this area they explicitly state no bar fines and the ".
Kuyas" are relentless in this area if one latches on to you can sour the mood. They have told me that there are "NUDE" shows in the area down VERY dark alleys which I always refuse as should we all. If anyone is new to this area just try not to talk to the "men" total waste of time and dangerous. I have never pulled a girl form Robinsons before I will have to try that. There are almost always freelancers in and around Remedios Circle my past trip report I stole a girl from a Korean guy and she left to give him my sloppy seconds. It is a good idea to get their mama sans number so you can hook yourself up with the other girls they have access to in the area. They are usually staying in a near by boarding house. I do not know where they get their customers from but I usually intercept them en route. If it looks like a hoe and smells like a hoe ask if she is a hoe in that area most likely she will be. I don't bring these girls back to my room they always strike me as sketchy in this area so I catch and release at the sogo nearby. looking forward to getting reacquainted.
MamaGuevos
02-10-22, 16:25
Although I have been to Makati perhaps 10 times, I have never been to a KTV.
In fact, I associate KTVs with stories I have read about guys who go to a back room, are surprised when large men walk in and end up being blackmailed (generally going from ATM to ATM until their limit is used up). Something like this once almost happened to me at a bar in Budapest a decade ago (fortunately, I was able to run faster than the bug guy who was threatening me), and the memory still haunts me.
I would actually like to check out a KTV, but have little idea how it works. Furthermore, although I believe that it is each to his own, I am not much of a drinker, and certainly never drink to the point of intoxication. My wingman drinks even less (he usually holds a single bottle of beer for the duration of an evening). I sense that a lot of guys like the alcohol as part of the experience.
I would love to have the names of one or two classic KTVs in Manila, a description of how the scene works and a recommendation of how much money I should bring with me to the event. Thanks!
WestCoast1
02-10-22, 21:32
There are almost always freelancers in and around Remedios Circle my past trip report I stole a girl from a Korean guy and she left to give him my sloppy seconds. When the KTV bars started re-opening last year, around October, foot traffic picked up in / around the circle. While the bars started opening socially distanced, at least one kuya was present at the corner of Adriatico / Remedios most nights. Back was his sales pitch, complete with placard of pics of PYT's. The placard was several years old, the lamination was peeling off. I asked him if he had any of the approximately 20 girls in the pics on the placard. He said yes. I followed him several blocks to a place where he trotted out 5 girls. None of them were the girls in the pictures on the placard. Two were fairly hot, the other 3 were worthless. I asked him to show me one of the girls in the placard. He had no idea what to say. We never got around to discussing the prize. I walked on to Robinson's (I was headed there anyway). Same old pre-pandemic stuff (careful what you wish for).
WestCoast1
02-11-22, 00:10
IF its a law do it, if it is NOT please don't. We willfully eschew the law when it comes to prostitution to get laid, I would think your civil liberties would be just as ripe a righteous cause.There is a separate thread for this kind of commentary, "Philippines Politics and Economics", which might be a better place for this. I tried to PM you, but I got a message that says you can't receive PM's.
Member #4794
02-11-22, 02:27
There is a separate thread for this kind of commentary, "Philippines Politics and Economics", which might be a better place for this. I tried to PM you, but I got a message that says you can't receive PM's.You are right it does belong there, I can assure you that I am done talking about it, I will be switching over to trip reports shortly Papa Jesus willing.
WestCoast1
02-11-22, 04:34
You are right it does belong there, I can assure you that I am done talking about it, I will be switching over to trip reports shortly Papa Jesus willing.Pics make good reports. Errrr, that's what I heard.
Although I have been to Makati perhaps 10 times, I have never been to a KTV.
In fact, I associate KTVs with stories I have read about guys who go to a back room, are surprised when large men walk in and end up being blackmailed (generally going from ATM to ATM until their limit is used up)...Haha this is funny! I feel the same way you do about KTVs, and probably will never experience one.
Few more maps attached for the area of LAC.
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Also in the area, Robinson's Mall has 3-5 walkers in the mall starting about 11 am. Outside on Pedro Gil, at the steps in front of Araya resto, are 3-10 available ladies, starting around 3 pm. Curfew (if there is one).Thanks for sharing WestCoast, great report.
Ireland1961
02-13-22, 12:53
Yes, there are a few ways to get to La Caf from Makati, I have been through at least 3-4 different routes from BGC / Makati over the years, LA Caf is actually really close to the coast line, as shown in the map image, if you take the main road that follows the coast you will see several bars / clubs that are mid to up-market being costal facing, and then a short road into the venue itself, I have actually travelled in the route that you described as well and I agree, only seasoned folks might want to explore those streets; the other route I was on passed by, has a lot of Karaoke, bars and casinos which have a Arabic type feel, including a lot of hot ladies to be seen trying to entice customers, that area is very close to the location of LA Caf, hence my question about was there anywhere else worth visiting in that area.
I do know that there were a number of night clubs in the area which range from mostly local to mixed customer bases, and in (a good few) years past there were some reports in this forum of some places worth visiting in that general area, but nothing in recent years.Thinking of heading to LA Cafe and Robinsons mall next Saturday and suggestions and advice very welcome.
Pics make good reports. Errrr, that's what I heard.Nice boobies on that one, Westie! Thanks! Look out Philippines. Here I come! Arriving Feb 17 to process SRRV and get settled on Negros Island with frequent trips to MNL. AC, Subic, Cebu and probably the rest of SEA. Hope to meet up with you, the legendary photo king, Westie!
WestCoast1
02-14-22, 15:36
Thinking of heading to LA Cafe and Robinsons mall next Saturday and suggestions and advice very welcome.I believe that Ghost the (post #18651) and myself (post #18657) made descriptive reports of LAC and Robinson's in the past week or so? You might want to start there. The walkers inside Robinson's show up before noon most days, and hang in the same spot as before, in the hallway between the atrium and Starbucks on the Pedro Gil entrance, near the escalator. The girls in Robinson's are a full digit higher on the scale than the girls prior to the pandemic.
MamaGuevos
02-14-22, 18:32
Haha this is funny! I feel the same way you do about KTVs, and probably will never experience one.I am really looking for something a bit on the exotic side. I usually just fish off of Date in Asia (DIA) and pinalove.com and end up with more girls than I can handle. The trick, which I have not mastered, is timing. For example, I have often arranged a lunch date, with the goal to have a nice lunch, go back to my room for the fun, and send the girl on her way and then move on to girl #2. Girl #2 is usually a late dinner date and an overnight. The idea is to have sex with three times with two different girls each day.
It is not hard to find willing girls to fill the calendar, even when one is relatively explicit. But getting them to the hotel on time, or knowing when to admit that a girl is going to be a no show, is exasperating. Some guys here line up multiple ladies for the same time period. I did that once and had a girl waiting for me in the lobby of my hotel at midnight while I was fucking another girl. To make a long story short, I made an embarrassing situation into a totally humiliating one (for all parties concerned).
My next trip, I got a room at the Peninsula and another at the New World Makati and sent half the girls to one hotel and the other half to the other. There certainly was no overlap, but this a waste of money, and the timing issues were not any better. One girl sat in the lobby of the Peninsula for about 2 hours and was unhappy with me. Unfortunately, neither DIA nor pinalove work like escort services, and one cannot simply go back to the web site when there is a no show and get a girl into the bedroom in a reasonable amount of time. I suppose the answer is to limit myself to a single girl, and just hang onto her when she arrives the first time at my hotel. I could have a main squeeze at my hotel and visit an incall location once or twice a day when I have "special needs". I have tried the massage places on Burgos and this has proved to be an immense waste of time. KTVs sounded like they might be perfect, except I know very little about them other than the horror stories. Are there actual brothels in Manila where one could go for a few hours of discrete fun?
It is not hard to find willing girls to fill the calendar, even when one is relatively explicit. But getting them to the hotel on time, or knowing when to admit that a girl is going to be a no show, is exasperating. Some guys here line up multiple ladies for the same time period. I did that once and had a girl waiting for me in the lobby of my hotel at midnight while I was fucking another girl. To make a long story short, I made an embarrassing situation into a totally humiliating one (for all parties concerned).Offer to organize a grab for them, then you can track their arrival time on the app. If they can't give you a pickup point you know they are not coming any time soon. A lot cheaper than a second hotel room.
WestCoast1
02-15-22, 16:00
Offer to organize a grab for them, then you can track their arrival time on the app. If they can't give you a pickup point you know they are not coming any time soon. A lot cheaper than a second hotel room.I have written some unflattering items about Grab during the pandemic. In my experience here is another (and not Grab's fault, it became the law): They stopped allowing the rider (your girl) to enter the vehicle without the account owner (you). Thick in the head, I tried that several times in both a provincial city and the big city. I even ordered up a Grab taxi to transport my girl from my hotel to her place (7 minute ride at 10 pm light traffic). I was standing with the girl at the curb outside the hotel when the driver arrived. She hopped in the back and I closed the door while standing at the curb. A moment later she opened the door and the driver asked if I was going with her. He refused to take her home without me in the car. I offered him an extra p100 tip cash and he still refused. She got out of the car and he drove away. SH*t, the curfew had just started and the girl was an 'additional' guest, allowed into the hotel at that time only 10 am-9 pm, and we were already an hour past that, with a guard at the door staring at us. An empty tryke passed by and the driver agreed to take her home for p100. Everything worked out that time, but other times when I sent a Grab to a location to bring a girl to my place (or ST hotel), the driver refused to drive her because I was not present (which, BTW, you still have to pay for it, as the driver has wasted his time and not gotten the expected fare; it bills out to my CC).
However that was last year (I stopped doing that, duh), and things might have changed (or might soon).
Another reminder about taxis. Those entering soon will find taxis have plastic divider sheets that completely cut off the driver's seat from the passenger and rear seats (and the front passenger seat from the rear seats). Some drivers don't allow the front seat to be used, and only 2 passengers in the back seat (for a long time that became a Grab rule). If you have two young sweeties in tow, you might need more than 1 taxi. OTOH sometimes I jump in the front seat myself (my preferred seat) and nobody peeps.
...Are there actual brothels in Manila where one could go for a few hours of discrete fun?I read somewhere in the Manila forum that they have some brothels scattered around in Manila, where you can select a girl and take her to a room on the premises to complete the session. I have some names for you but I have to look them up. Send me a pm. One of them is called AirForce1 I believe.
You can also go to Quezon city, where you may find quite a few MP / KTVs along Quezon Avenue. I say may because I visited these places before Covid. Not sure if they are open now. Also, review post #400 on the Quezon forum.
I am really looking for something a bit on the exotic side. I usually just fish off of Date in Asia (DIA) and pinalove.com and end up with more girls than I can handle. The trick, which I have not mastered, is timing. The solution is quite simple. Never, ever wait for a pina. Just go about your day doing your stuff, give them a place and time to meet within walking distance and should they show up just walk down to meet them for an interview or straight back to the room. Should they not show up then another will be there soon.
Get your three shots per day but forget about trying for split second timing. If you want a girl at 10,2 and 8 pm then the PI is the wrong place to come.
ThomasCasey
02-16-22, 06:13
I am really looking for something a bit on the exotic side. I usually just fish off of Date in Asia (DIA) and pinalove.com and end up with more girls than I can handle. The trick, which I have not mastered, is timing. For example, I have often arranged a lunch date, with the goal to have a nice lunch, go back to my room for the fun, and send the girl on her way and then move on to girl #2. Girl #2 is usually a late dinner date and an overnight. The idea is to have sex with three times with two different girls each day.Curious: my profiles on FC, DIA and PL usually sell me as a nice guy who travels frequently to the Phils on business and looking for the right girl for a long-term (total BS). While I've had good success with that method, I'm wondering about being more direct at the risk of turning off some, but turning on others. The reason I put my profile that way is to present myself as safe and find quality girls. On the flip side, with my next trip I don't want to beat around the Bush or waste time (I won't have enough time to waste). I was wondering what your approach is in terms of your profile (open question to anyone reading). Do you come out swinging on your profile description with: I'm in town for a few days and looking for someone ST? No strings attached.
Thanks for any input!
Steve Nash
02-16-22, 07:42
I am really looking for something a bit on the exotic side. I usually just fish off of Date in Asia (DIA) and pinalove.com and end up with more girls than I can handle. The trick, which I have not mastered, is timing. For example, I have often arranged a lunch date, with the goal to have a nice lunch, go back to my room for the fun, and send the girl on her way and then move on to girl #2. Girl #2 is usually a late dinner date and an overnight. The idea is to have sex with three times with two different girls each day.
It is not hard to find willing girls to fill the calendar, even when one is relatively explicit. But getting them to the hotel on time, or knowing when to admit that a girl is going to be a no show, is exasperating. Some guys here line up multiple ladies for the same time period. I did that once and had a girl waiting for me in the lobby of my hotel at midnight while I was fucking another girl. To make a long story short, I made an embarrassing situation into a totally humiliating one (for all parties concerned).
My next trip, I got a room at the Peninsula and another at the New World Makati and sent half the girls to one hotel and the other half to the other. There certainly was no overlap, but this a waste of money, and the timing issues were not any better. One girl sat in the lobby of the Peninsula for about 2 hours and was unhappy with me. Unfortunately, neither DIA nor pinalove work like escort services, and one cannot simply go back to the web site when there is a no show and get a girl into the bedroom in a reasonable amount of time. I suppose the answer is to limit myself to a single girl, and just hang onto her when she arrives the first time at my hotel. I could have a main squeeze at my hotel and visit an incall location once or twice a day when I have "special needs". I have tried the massage places on Burgos and this has proved to be an immense waste of time. KTVs sounded like they might be perfect, except I know very little about them other than the horror stories. Are there actual brothels in Manila where one could go for a few hours of discrete fun?For me, when I want to have 3 girls in one day, I like to set-up 2 new dates and the other one a repeat (someone I had sex already in the past or someone I went on a date before but couldn't close the deal in the first date but I know for sure I will close the deal in the second date because of the vibe I get, I had some girls told me: "I don't like having sex on the first date, but I will be open on the second date", so just to make sure that I don't waste my time again, I will tell them we will go right away to my condo or we will go to a short hotel, if they are hesitant then I won't meet them).
Is do-able to have sex with 3 new girls in one day (3 girls that you meet for the first time). But is hard to achieve, I was able to do it only once (remember they are not escorts and they are not expecting to get pay, they are normal girls who are really looking to fall in love and of course have the Canadian dream, LOL).
My advice is very simple: Set the first date in the morning before lunch, then the second one in the middle or late afternoom (sometimes I eat 2 lunches with the first two girls), and the third girl is at night, that one usually gets to sleep in my condo and then by 8 or 9 am she has to go so I can prepare for the first girl on the next day.
Make sure you videocall with all the girls so they trust you more in advance, sometimes there are some who wants to back down because they feel nervous of meeting you for the first time or wants to bring a friend at the last minute, you need to let them know that you are mad about it because they ruin your plans, most of them will feel bad about it and stop their nonesense and insecurities, best way to get their trust back is to make a quick videocall again and make them feel comfortable with you again.
Just don't get discourage if your timing doesn't workout, and a girl comes 2-3 hours late, worst case scenario you will meet 2 girls instead of 3, which is not bad either.
A couple of times it looked like I was going to meet only 2 girls instead of 3 because one of them was very late, but I was persistent and I didn't give-up on having 3 girls, I just change the meet-up time of the next girl and it workout (of course you have to make the date shorter and be faster with them). One time the third girl cancel because it was too late to meet, so I went to Tinder and I ended up hooking up with a Tinder girl. Just make sure to chat with girls close to your area, don't waste your time with someone far away, because time is your worst enemy at that moment, also avoid the escorts if that's not your thing like me (Just don't give up, because trust me some girls chatting on Tinder late at night are bored and looking for something to do, usually the party girls), just make sure to wear condoms when you have sex with them, because women who easily go out with a stranger at night at the last minute and hook up with you, have more likely been doing that with other guys also.
For me the big secret when you are trying to hook-up with 3 normal girls in a day, specially to make sure how interest it they are with you is to text them enough during the day of the meet-up (well not too much of course, just enough to have their whole interest and investment in you that day). The more you text eachother the day of the meet-up (again videocall helps alot) the more likely that they won't cancel and they won't be late.
Because honestly once you guys meet, you have the advantage that she likes you enough to be with you, a stranger, on a first date (I know some oldies here will say: Or she likes you because of your money, well if that's your thing, then it should be even better and easy for you), but for the guys looking to meet normal girls, the rest is up to you, play your game hard, and show them that they can trust you and that they can see a future together with you (yeah it sounds corny, but that's how women qualify you from their first impressions with you). Of course the more game you have the better it will end for you, but in case it doesn't workout just remember you still have 2 other girls to hook-up with that day, so just get her on the second date (I don't do third dates, so is either second date or bye bye), you will be surprise how easy girls are in the second date.
WestCoast1
02-16-22, 16:31
they are normal girls who are really looking to fall in love and of course have the Canadian dream, LOL).A try-out with the Montreal Canadiens? Good pasalubong to bring in your suitcase (see pic). Watch her face light up when you hand them to her. Careful as they are sharp!
My advice is very simple: Set the first date in the morning before lunch...This is a major reason why I prefer overnight LT's. I find it near impossible to get a pina awake, out of bed, showered, in a Grab and in my condo before lunch. Any unicorn that I do find up at that hour will be on her way to work so unusable anyway.
Much easier to let them sleep in until 9 or 10 and bang her on the way out.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
02-16-22, 21:24
This is a major reason why I prefer overnight LT's. I find it near impossible to get a pina awake, out of bed, showered, in a Grab and in my condo before lunch. Any unicorn that I do find up at that hour will be on her way to work so unusable anyway.
Much easier to let them sleep in until 9 or 10 and bang her on the way out.
Enjoy. G.Good call. Alternately wake her at 7 am for round 1, then let her fall asleep. Make some coffee, have some toast, start working on my mid-afternoon girl. Wake sleeping beauty again at 9-10 for round 2, hammer, send her home by 11. Often I need a day of rest after all of that; its a shame that age catches up.
Curious: my profiles on FC, DIA and PL usually sell me as a nice guy who travels frequently to the Phils on business and looking for the right girl for a long-term (total BS). While I've had good success with that method, I'm wondering about being more direct at the risk of turning off some, but turning on others. The reason I put my profile that way is to present myself as safe and find quality girls. On the flip side, with my next trip I don't want to beat around the Bush or waste time (I won't have enough time to waste). I was wondering what your approach is in terms of your profile (open question to anyone reading). Do you come out swinging on your profile description with: I'm in town for a few days and looking for someone ST? No strings attached.
Thanks for any input!I've had many girls tell me that they have heard all the BS stories before and know when a guy is lying to them. I've never found lying necessary to bed a girl and only 2 or 3 will give me knockbacks based on moral reasons only.
I'm honest but not offensive when chatting. This tends to weed out the time wasters and ensures there are no surprises for either party. If you are chasing 'good' girls best to factor in a first date or coffee anyway.
Good call. Alternately wake her at 7 am for round 1, then let her fall asleep. Make some coffee, have some toast, start working on my mid-afternoon girl. Wake sleeping beauty again at 9-10 for round 2.....Nobody likes a braggart. That's my daily allowance spent by 9 am. 😭.
Curious: my profiles on FC, DIA and PL usually sell me as a nice guy who travels frequently to the Phils on business and looking for the right girl for a long-term (total BS). While I've had good success with that method, I'm wondering about being more direct at the risk of turning off some, but turning on others. The reason I put my profile that way is to present myself as safe and find quality girls. On the flip side, with my next trip I don't want to beat around the Bush or waste time (I won't have enough time to waste). I was wondering what your approach is in terms of your profile (open question to anyone reading). Do you come out swinging on your profile description with: I'm in town for a few days and looking for someone ST? No strings attached.
Thanks for any input!For one I detest any guy lying and scamming to get some girl's panties off. No need to lie about looking for LT relationship to fuck some girls. Don't tell me you whisper in their ear I Love You as you are trying to get it in?
Usually this BS comes back with a 10 fold price tag. The scammer becomes the crying scammee. The fucker becomes the fuckee.
In my experiences it is best to be honest up front and forward.
Albert9989
02-16-22, 23:36
For one I detest any guy lying and scamming to get some girl's panties off. No need to lie about looking for LT relationship to fuck some girls. Don't tell me you whisper in their ear I Love You as you are trying to get it in?
Usually this BS comes back with a 10 fold price tag. The scammer becomes the crying scammee. The fucker becomes the fuckee.
In my experiences it is best to be honest up front and forward.Fully agreed, don't lie at all, be honest.
In ly profiles I just avoid to check marriage and long term relationship, and anyway I don't think that any girl noticed that detail.
But after the first chats, lets say as the 5 or 6 message, I say that I am not looking for long term or marriage, so they ask what I look for, and I say good friends to chat with, and meet to share time together if I come there.
1 amongst 10 will say no, that's not what I look for.
But generally they say yes, I want to meet you.
Then you can be more specific.
But I agree that we must never lie to them.
And even by saying that you create attachment for some of them so better be crystal clear!
ThomasCasey
02-17-22, 01:22
For one I detest any guy lying and scamming to get some girl's panties off. No need to lie about looking for LT relationship to fuck some girls. Don't tell me you whisper in their ear I Love You as you are trying to get it in?
Usually this BS comes back with a 10 fold price tag. The scammer becomes the crying scammee. The fucker becomes the fuckee.
In my experiences it is best to be honest up front and forward.No need in belittling me after asking a simple question to the forum. I have never had it come back to me 10 fold, or otherwise. Let's remain respectful.
WestCoast1
02-17-22, 02:01
Nobody likes a braggart. That's my daily allowance spent by 9 am. 😭.Back in the day I had nicknames. Big Boy, or Stamina Stan. Now I go by Mediocre Matt.
AsianPursuits
02-17-22, 02:09
The solution is quite simple. Never, ever wait for a pina. Just go about your day doing your stuff, give them a place and time to meet within walking distance .This a very good statement. Never plan your day around a girl. Another question I've added to my list is "OK, meet at 11 am at Ayala Mall. What time will you need to leave your place? That gives some insight into any idea of how they factor in travel time. How many times have we all hears at 10:55 am - "I'm on my way". Tell us nothing.
Back in the day I had nicknames. Big Boy, or Stamina Stan. Now I go by Mediocre Matt.I go by Don Juan now, after one I am done!
South By Sw 3
02-17-22, 05:30
A try-out with the Montreal Canadiens? Good pasalubong to bring in your suitcase (see pic). Watch her face light up when you hand them to her. Careful as they are sharp!It guys like you who spoil it for everyone! Filipinas used to be grateful for a Molson Light in can, but now they all expect a pair of CCMs for a mediocre covered BJ.
- SbySW.
WestCoast1
02-23-22, 23:11
Reports about former bars re-branding themselves. Here is Cowboy Grille Malate / Remedios.
Pic 1) Before pandemic. From the upstairs view, the dance floor below (white tile), the stage not visible to the left downstairs. Customer tables downstairs and up.
Pics 2 & 3) After re-construction. Now a sports bar called "18 & 1/2", downstairs only. Full menu, wet bar, televisions for sports, fairly quiet family place. No longer any room for a dance floor or band. I been in several times. I miss the old days of live band, my girl getting smashed and singing along; guarantees a hot evening and morning.
Big Kahuna
02-25-22, 01:53
Is it open?
WestCoast1
03-18-22, 15:06
It guys like you who spoil it for everyone! Filipinas used to be grateful for a Molson Light in can, but now they all expect a pair of CCMs for a mediocre covered BJ.Hahaha TRUTH!
An extra morsel for the gents. My pre-breakfast morning joy. She gives one of the better BBBJCIM.
And, um, hey. Who's taking that picture?
Curious: my profiles on FC, DIA and PL usually sell me as a nice guy who travels frequently to the Phils on business and looking for the right girl for a long-term (total BS). While I've had good success with that method, I'm wondering about being more direct at the risk of turning off some, but turning on others. The reason I put my profile that way is to present myself as safe and find quality girls. On the flip side, with my next trip I don't want to beat around the Bush or waste time (I won't have enough time to waste). I was wondering what your approach is in terms of your profile (open question to anyone reading). Do you come out swinging on your profile description with: I'm in town for a few days and looking for someone ST? No strings attached.
Thanks for any input!On my 4 trips, I never mention long term. If asked what I am looking for, I just say friends first, then see what happens.
Going to try to be family free a during the day in Pasay area. Or a possible side trip to Seoul in September. Really don't have a clue where to look here. Most or of Angeles and Subic. Don't think I can go that far in the 6 to 8 or so hours I can free up. Any info or direction to a useful post or thread would be greatly appreciated.
Its also my first time posting on internation sg.
Be safe and kind to your providers.
Thanks in advance Woody!
WestCoast1
03-19-22, 01:52
Going to try to be family free a during the day in Pasay area. Or a possible side trip to Seoul in September. Really don't have a clue where to look here. Most or of Angeles and Subic. Don't think I can go that far in the 6 to 8 or so hours I can free up. Any info or direction to a useful post or thread would be greatly appreciated.
That 6-8 hour timeframe is too short to tell you an exact place to go, especially if its during the daytime. Best bet: Chat some dating site gals in advance and tell them what you are looking for. Get phone numbers. Make arrangements with 2 girls the day before to meet you in Manila for an afternoon of bliss. Once there, call girl #1 and remind her what time and place you are meeting. If she meets you, step outside the room, call #2 and cancel (you have a cold and are worried it might be the start of Covid, or such). If #1 balks for any reason, call girl #2. If #2 balks, start calling the remaining girls. I recommend Sogo and Victoria Court; p1000-p2000, tell them Westy says 'Hey'.
Alternate theory of the crime: Plan to meet #1 at Sogo (or such) at 10 am, and #2 at 3 pm. If #1 shows, give her the hammer and cut her loose by 1 pm. Shower, lunch, rest, and meet #2 at 3 pm for some hammer time. If #1 can't make it, call #2 immediately for emergency ingress. Have her twice (if you have enough wood in your woody) and you are on your way back to your missus by 5 pm.
Remember your vitamins, bring some mouthwash, tip your cabbie, enjoy those chocolate rose petals, and file us a descriptive report later.
FuriousGeorge
03-19-22, 10:05
Westy you are a genius. One more week and I'll be there and perhaps my phallus will become exhausted but I welcome it.
That 6-8 hour timeframe is too short to tell you an exact place to go, especially if its during the daytime. Best bet: Chat some dating site gals in advance and tell them what you are looking for. Get phone numbers. Make arrangements with 2 girls the day before to meet you in Manila for an afternoon of bliss. Once there, call girl #1 and remind her what time and place you are meeting. If she meets you, step outside the room, call #2 and cancel (you have a cold and are worried it might be the start of Covid, or such). If #1 balks for any reason, call girl #2. If #2 balks, start calling the remaining girls. I recommend Sogo and Victoria Court; p1000-p2000, tell them Westy says 'Hey'.
Alternate theory of the crime: Plan to meet #1 at Sogo (or such) at 10 am, and #2 at 3 pm. If #1 shows, give her the hammer and cut her loose by 1 pm. Shower, lunch, rest, and meet #2 at 3 pm for some hammer time. If #1 can't make it, call #2 immediately for emergency ingress. Have her twice (if you have enough wood in your woody) and you are on your way back to your missus by 5 pm.
Remember your vitamins, bring some mouthwash, tip your cabbie, enjoy those chocolate rose petals, and file us a descriptive report later.
Going to try to be family free a during the day in Pasay area. Or a possible side trip to Seoul in September. Really don't have a clue where to look here. Most or of Angeles and Subic. Don't think I can go that far in the 6 to 8 or so hours I can free up. Any info or direction to a useful post or thread would be greatly appreciated.
Its also my first time posting on internation sg.
Be safe and kind to your providers.
Thanks in advance Woody!Best bet Manila Bay Cafe or is it called LA Cafe now? Girls are available all times of day or night if you are not super picky. There are plenty of ST hotels nearby. You can have at least 3 girls in 6-8 hour period with lunch thrown in. If your wood stays woody all day Woody!
Transporter
03-20-22, 18:42
Going to try to be family free a during the day in Pasay area. Or a possible side trip to Seoul in September. Really don't have a clue where to look here. Most or of Angeles and Subic. Don't think I can go that far in the 6 to 8 or so hours I can free up. Any info or direction to a useful post or thread would be greatly appreciated.
Its also my first time posting on internation sg.
Be safe and kind to your providers.
Thanks in advance Woody!With 6-8 hours to play with I would suggest just going to a massage place. Nuru massage, fish bowl, spa or similar.
You could probably do 2-3 with 6-8 hours.
Anyone ever use it? It was my intro into mongering on 2019. Met a beautiful 24 yr old who had a perfect body. Tall, shoulder length hair, nice nat see's. Was super affordable, around 3 k for two hours all on table but bb. Couldn't find her listing anymore. Oh Nina where did you go?
Anyone ever use it? It was my intro into mongering on 2019. Met a beautiful 24 yr old who had a perfect body. Tall, shoulder length hair, nice nat see's. Was super affordable, around 3 k for two hours all on table but bb. Couldn't find her listing anymore. Oh Nina where did you go?I use it occasionally. Every girl I've seen so far is legit and exactly as promoted.
Big Kahuna
03-22-22, 02:09
Closed indefinitely.
Closed indefinitely.Dolly Surabaya gone. Blok M Jakarta gone. High Society AC gone. EDSA gone. Walking Streets AC and Pattaya dying.
There was a time when I enjoyed clubbing but things are getting bleak. Lucky I'm almost exclusively online and dial up now. 🥺.
WestCoast1
03-22-22, 06:43
Blok M Jakarta gone. Blok M gone? Fightin' words! Some of my best memories are in those LAC-style dumps.
The glory daze. Never new what you were going to see there on any given evening, or what you'd get in your hotel room. That last pic, girl from Dee's place. 4' 10", 70 lb tiny hottie with big hair. Great session. Great smile and attitude. Departed at 2 am. Following morning at 10 am I went to a nearby mall for a haircut and eats. In the food court (much like the Robinson's Malate 3rd floor food court) I grabbed a tray and a plate of food and was scarfing it down. There was an attendant bussing dirty tables. She stopped at the table in front of me and was clearing the dirty plastic ware. We both looked up at each other at the same time. It was the girl from the night before, and she recognized me first. She turned quickly and went into the back room. I thought: Great ass! Great hair! It took me a minute to figure out who she was. At work in the slacks / polo shirt uni, with her tiny frame and big hair pulled up on top of her head with librarian glasses, she was a distant person from last night who filled out a Hawaiian jumper and had given a rockin' hard-fast BJ.
And now its gone!
Best bet Manila Bay Cafe or is it called LA Cafe now? Girls are available all times of day or night if you are not super picky. There are plenty of ST hotels nearby. You can have at least 3 girls in 6-8 hour period with lunch thrown in. If your wood stays woody all day Woody!I went to LAC about a month ago on a Sunday afternoon and it sucked. But it was always het and miss. Man, Amazonia a few years back was way better than LAC IMO but its since been abandoned. I used to get BJs in the upstairs bar there during NFL games halftime. Damn! Makes me glad I'm down to three regulars now (non P4P) at my house in Valencia outside Dumaguete.
WestCoast1
03-22-22, 18:45
I went to LAC about a month ago on a Sunday afternoon and it sucked. But it was always het and miss. Man, Amazonia a few years back was way better than LAC IMO but its since been abandoned. I used to get BJs in the upstairs bar there during NFL games halftime. Damn! Makes me glad I'm down to three regulars now (non P4P) at my house in Valencia outside Dumaguete.Last time I walked into LAC was early November. From about the first time (pandemic) that I noticed it open middle of 2021, I walked in about once a month, chatted a waitress, and usually walked right back out. Each time, except the last time in November, it was just couples or the occasional single pinoy guy eating lunch or dinner. I never once saw another foreigner there last year. Once there were two older ladies, 60's, having lunch. Several times the waitress tried to seat me, explaining "Food only sir", as if to say 'no girls'. However on the November visit there were two mid-20's gals having bottled water, and they stared at me (the leer) while I chatted the waitress. Guessing that they were on the hunt.
OTOH, I think Steve Nash reported around December / January that he went and saw girls for pickup.
I think Amazonia burned down 5-6 years ago?
Blok M gone? Fightin' words! Some of my best memories are in those LAC-style dumps. The whole area is pretty much gone now. Bali Hai (if only those walls could talk!!) closed years ago. Even the Malawi 6th Floor is gone. Who would have thought the legendary 6 floors of whorres in SG would be up for sale??
Dolly Surabaya gone. Blok M Jakarta gone. High Society AC gone. EDSA gone. Walking Streets AC and Pattaya dying.
There was a time when I enjoyed clubbing but things are getting bleak. Lucky I'm almost exclusively online and dial up now. 🥺.None of the mongering venues really go away as long as supply and demand us there. Covid has killed lots of venues, clubs, restaurants, tourist places. Most mongering is done online.
Problem is many governments may have come to their senses at last to crack down on prostitution because they do not want to be known as one. But as long as there are lots of poor girls in Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia new venues will open up. China had prostitution rampant all over the country for a number of years but nowadays come down to a trickle. Combination of affluence and crackdowns.
Dominican Republic tried in Sosua but failed. Colombia is trying and we will see. Costa Rica has eliminated outside providers coming in for Prostitution by making immigration strict. Consequently local girls tripled the price.
Hard to predict the future. I believe all will go online only.
Transporter
03-22-22, 23:09
None of the mongering venues really go away as long as supply and demand us there. .YEP will be in search of where all the casa went.
Steve Nash
03-23-22, 17:10
Going to try to be family free a during the day in Pasay area. Or a possible side trip to Seoul in September. Really don't have a clue where to look here. Most or of Angeles and Subic. Don't think I can go that far in the 6 to 8 or so hours I can free up. Any info or direction to a useful post or thread would be greatly appreciated.
Its also my first time posting on internation sg.
Be safe and kind to your providers.
Thanks in advance Woody!6 to 8 hours is plenty of time to hook-up.
I used to do 3-4 hours back on 2020 for like 6 months. I don't do it that much now since I have more free time when my living partner goes to her hometown for 4-5 days to do something important or because I'm traveling alot mostly with her or alone (I have to come up with a good excuse for that one of course).
My routine on 2020 was, like Westcoast suggest it, go online and set-up dates, make sure the girl will arrived before you, tell her that you have work to do (in my case working online on my laptop) and that's why you will be late, of course tell them this when they left their place already (they should always leave before you, specially since they go by jeepney and you go by taxi).
Then once you know she is there or in her way close to the meeting place. You tell your partner (or wife), I'm going for a run or I'm going to the gym, the great thing about these two excuses, is that you can do this everyday or any day and at different times, she won't get suspicious about it. And this works perfect for day dates, it could also work at nights too, but not too late, the latest I used this excuse was 10 pm.
Another thing, is better to use the I'm going to run excuse more than the gym excuse, because she might go to the gym and look for you, or ask you which gym you go to, and you will have doubts if she will show up. It happened to me twice, she show up at the gym and text me where I was, I told her I was in the gym and then decided to go for a run. Not sure if she believe me or not, but she was fine with my excuse. The other time she shows up in the place I run most of the time, of couse I told her that I went to run in another place (is important to have at least 2 or 3 places that you run), that's more believable since people usually have multiple places to run in case they get bored of the same place.
Once you meet the girl try to have a short but very meaningful date, meaning try to connect with her ASAP, time is your biggest enemy in this type of dates. 1-2 hours should be enough for you to bring up the discussion about taking her to a short hotel.
The way I did it was to ask her: Do you want to come to my place? If she says yes, then I will say: Oh shit! I remember my landlord doesn't allow me to bring guess anymore, since last time I bring a group of friends they got drunk and started making noises and left the place a mess. Trust me they will be believe you.
When you bring up the short hotel, of course she will ask you why there, my excuse was always because I want some privacy so we can chill more freely and have bonding experience, we can drink and listen to music (I always had drinks and my speaker on my schoolbag), I can teach you how to dance salsa or you want me to teach you here in front of strangers. LOL. Say things that you can do with her without mentioning sex of course, I know is hard to believe that, but if you distract her enough and if she trust you enough she will say Yes. If she is tipsy is better but during the day is hard to make them tipsy. In their minds they know if they go to a short hotel they will have sex, so you got to present it in a way that is not too obvious, because at that point she already like you, and she is just deciding if she want to have sex on the first date or make you wait abit.
Some girls will say I don't have sex in the first date, then just try it on the second date which I guaranteed you she will say Yes.
If she doesn't want to go to the short hotel cut the date short (come up with an excuse), and then call one of your friends / mistress (some one who is waiting you for a short notice sex, they need to know you have a partner and be ok with it), is good to have afew of those girls as back-up plan, and is better if she lives close by. In your case since you have a longer time (6 to 8 hours) then you can set up a second date.
Once the sex is done and you got to go back to your partner, even though you took a good shower in the short hotel, chances are she can smell sex from your clothes or your body, so what I do is I go to one of the street food vendors and buy chicken / pork grill barbecue (my favorite). I stay close to the vendor so the smell of grill meat stays in my body and clothes. With this technique she will never smell you had sex.
I had many times had sex with my dates and then 1-2 hours later I had sex with my living partner, and she never notice it once.
Even when she does the laundry the grill smell will stay in your clothes for days.
The more you do this the better you will get, the better you will become at recognizing which girl is ready for you to take her to the short hotel. I recommend the girls you think will say Yes to meet them in your run days, the girls you are not sure will say Yes to meet then on your gym days, that way if your partner ends up going to the gym and text you where you are, it will be easier to ditch off your date and go meet your partner.
Set-up dates everyday, and make sure your partner knows that you workout and run everyday at different times depending of your work schedule or whatever you are busy with.
Doing this I was able to hook-up with 2 to 4 girls every week while I was living with my living partner.
I know some hater out there will say why are you advocating cheating. Well he asked that question, so that means he will do it anyways.
Remember cheating in Philippines is very normal, you see it in movies, I see it in the family members of my living partner when they openly talk about a family member being with mistress number 2 or mistress number 3, or comparing themselves how many mistress they had, one had 9 and with 7 of them he had kids, LOL.
There is a reason short hotels are very popular here in Philippines. So I'm just following the culture here.
Plus the more important thing is when I do it, I do it very discreet, I easily cancel dates or plans, I always choose my partner first.
I know eventually I will stop this hobby, but I got to enjoy it while it last.
got to enjoy it while it last.Excellent alibis and strategies which I will have to try! It is somewhat of a challenge juggling several girls. And they are so jealous. They force us to lie and be sneaky!
MamaGuevos
03-24-22, 00:30
///...//Makes me glad I'm down to three regulars now (non P4P) at my house in Valencia outside Dumaguete.That sounds very expensive!
That sounds very expensive!What? All night and in the morning for the cost of dinner? Peanuts!
GuyReynolds
03-24-22, 09:30
Set-up dates everyday, and make sure your partner knows that you workout and run everyday at different times depending of your work schedule or whatever you are busy with.
Doing this I was able to hook-up with 2 to 4 girls every week while I was living with my living partner.
There is a reason short hotels are very popular here in Philippines. So I'm just following the culture here.
Plus the more important thing is when I do it, I do it very discreet, I easily cancel dates or plans, I always choose my partner first.
I know eventually I will stop this hobby, but I got to enjoy it while it last.I've never seen anyone win so hard in my 25 years of being alive on this planet. You got this down to a science! LOL.
Hey guys,
I'm planning on visiting PI Manila, Cebu, ect at the end of April for a week or two before I go to Vietnam.
Are things back to normal? Can I meet up with girls and what's the general vibe?
AsianPursuits
03-24-22, 23:39
Remember cheating in Philippines is very normal, you see it in movies, I see it in the family members of my living partner when they openly talk about a family member being with mistress number 2 or mistress number 3, or comparing themselves how many mistress they had, one had 9 and with 7 of them he had kids, LOL.
There is a reason short hotels are very popular here in Philippines. So I'm just following the culture here.
The Filo short time hotels are interesting. They come complete with private access. Often I have seen Filipino cars with their completely darkened windows drive directly into the pre-arranged garage. Garage door closes. No idea who entered with whom.
My got to place in AC is Hill Top motel.
https://www.google.com/maps/@15.1654293, 120.5702321,3 a,30.3 y,215.71 h,85.15 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 s0 zr_T5 ZJO2 MGSEkZlMlbpg!2 e0!7 i13312!8 i6656.
You can arrive by trike with girl, pay at the gate and drive directly to the room. No ID, no questions.
I've never seen anyone win so hard in my 25 years of being alive on this planet. You got this down to a science! LOL.Ya Mon. Nash, could write a small handout on this and sell it. What I want to know is how does he handle it when he gets busted? Deny? Or what? I've never been good at spontaneous lying so what is the recommendation please, Mr. Nash?
Remember cheating in Philippines is very normal...
Steve's best advice. However, with respect, anyone who believes that they are fucking 3 or 4 girls per week, in their GF's home town, some of whom will be her friends of friends of friends, without her knowing is only kidding themselves. She may turn a blind eye (as Steve said, it's expected and accepted) but she definitely does know what's happening.
The same can be said for girls who go to a ST Hotel within a couple of hours of meeting a stranger: she knows exactly what is expected.
I'm all for playing the game, not insulting anyone and reassuring the girls that they are princesses. But don't for a minute think that anyone doesn't know what's happening.
Cheers. G.
Steve Nash
03-25-22, 13:53
Ya Mon. Nash, could write a small handout on this and sell it. What I want to know is how does he handle it when he gets busted? Deny? Or what? I've never been good at spontaneous lying so what is the recommendation please, Mr. Nash?Hehehehe small handout, good one!
If I get busted (caught in action or her seeing me getting into a short hotel with a girl) of course I will not denied, once I get caught I know I will stop doing this, I will ask her for forgiveness and then be a good partner. I will only do this because I love her and I don't want to lose her.
BUT if she just heard rumors from friends that saw me with a girl, I will try to denied it as much as I can, and if she believes me (more than likely since they have no proof) I will stop for a while, I might decide to stop completely but I'm not sure. One thing I know for sure is that eventually I will stop.
Steve Nash
03-25-22, 14:55
Steve's best advice. However, with respect, anyone who believes that they are fucking 3 or 4 girls per week, in their GF's home town, some of whom will be her friends of friends of friends, without her knowing is only kidding themselves. She may turn a blind eye (as Steve said, it's expected and accepted) but she definitely does know what's happening.Actually I never said it happened in her hometown, it happened in a city 3 hours away from her hometown, I will be crazy to do it in her hometown where all her family and friends live.
There is a reason I do all this work so she won't find out, you have to be as discreet as possible, if she start asking questions or she wants me not to go out, I just cancel my dates so she won't get suspicious, I cancelled afew times at the last minute (I know I risk of losing my date, but for me my partner comes first).
I had chat with afew girls from her hometown before but when I found out that they live on her hometown, I block them right away. Is very important to block her family and friends from your fake Facebook account (specially any friends who live where you are doing the crime).
I know my GF will confront me if she knows I'm cheating on her, she is not the type of woman who will hold it and ignore it. Fortunately so far she has not caught me and none of the VERY FEW people she knows here had caught me and took me a picture and send it to her, because if they did I know 100% sure she will confront me. She knows she is hot and she knows she can easily get a new guy, so she won't put up with my cheating without telling me about it.
BTW after the 6 months that I did this (4 months actually because for 2 months we had lockdown and the short hotels were closed) I stop doing it, now I don't do it anymore. Actually I did it twice back on January, but after that I completely stop. Now I do it only when we are not in the same city. So I would say I avoid getting caught cheating while living with her.
The same can be said for girls who go to a ST Hotel within a couple of hours of meeting a stranger: she knows exactly what is expected.That's why I said this:
"In their minds they know if they go to a short hotel they will have sex, so you got to present it in a way that is not too obvious, because at that point she already like you, and she is just deciding if she want to have sex on the first date or make you wait abit".
Is like when you are in a first date back in your country, is already late and you happen to convince her to come to your place, she knows you will have sex, but there you are with her in a long taxi ride, you know what she is thinking, so you try to distract her, so she won't think about what's about to happen and start having doubts.
Just to make it clear, I'm not an asshole who is a heartbreaker, every girl I had sex I tell them that I have a living partner (after the sex of course), so they won't start having feelings for me and I won't break their hearts. There are afew that I like to repeat and I hold telling them about my GF (for 2 or 3 sex sessions), BUT if I notice they are starting to fall for me, I will tell them right away, no matter how hot they are or how much I like them.
Hehehehe small handout, good one!
If I get busted (caught in action or her seeing me getting into a short hotel with a girl) of course I will not denied, once I get caught I know I will stop doing this, I will ask her for forgiveness and then be a good partner. I will only do this because I love her and I don't want to lose her.
BUT if she just heard rumors from friends that saw me with a girl, I will try to denied it as much as I can, and if she believes me (more than likely since they have no proof) I will stop for a while, I might decide to stop completely but I'm not sure. One thing I know for sure is that eventually I will stop.Thanks, Steve. Makes sense. I appreciate your reply. Filipinas. Not the brightest creatures on earth but you got to love them for their sweetness and tight pussies. Cheers, man.
Actually I never said it happened in her hometown, it happened in a city 3 hours away from her hometown... I wish you luck in your endeavours and it's great that it sounds as if you are having a good time.
Hopefully that continues. Unfortunately, I also know several guys who have similar stories to this:
A buddy walks into a bar for the first time. About 3 islands and 500 miles from home..... Take care. G.
Steve Nash
03-26-22, 15:31
A buddy walks into a bar for the first time. About 3 islands and 500 miles from home. He's never been there before. Orders a beer. Orders another beer and is feeling hungry. Walks into the attached restaurant next door. Pays for a steak. He's still thirsty. "Can you deliver the steak nextdoor?" "Sure we do it all the time. " Back to beers in the bar. The steak is taking a while. The steak is taking too long. His phone rings. It's his wife back home. "Hey, go next door and collect your steak, they couldn't find you. Don't drink too much. ".
True story. How's that privacy going? 😁. Your story above is funny and I wouldn't be surprise if it is true, there are morons everywhere like they are rookies.
Just because there are thousands of Filipinos getting caught cheating it doesn't mean all of them get caught, I also heard stories of Filipinos who have been cheating to their wives for many years without getting caught, most people who get caught are because:
1. They are not discreet (they tell their friends about it, they go to the short hotel walking where people can see them).
2. They don't know when to stop their addiction (You can do this for many years without getting caught if you do it right, but not forever because eventually it will caught up to you).
3. They don't have a plan and they don't do the hard work (Like the guy in your story went to a town where her wife have friends in that town).
The city I choose to do this was very important, it has a population of 1 million people where my GF knows like 6 people there, and all of them are not even close to her, just schoolmates / coworkers who moved there that she haven't seen / talk for like 5+ years ago. She told me all this so is not that I'm guessing.
Anyways I agree that even thought if you are prepare and discreet you can also get caught, that's why I stop doing it.
One thing I can assure you 100% is that she doesn't know about it, would she find out in the future? Who knows, but that's why stopping sooner rather than later is the best way to avoid it.
I let you know 10-15 years from now if she ever found out.
Thinking about it, I'm not being discreet talking about it here on this message board, Westyyyyy can I delete some of my messages in the future?
Oh nooooo I hope this chats can not be search in google, what type of keywords can they type to find my chats.
WestCoast1
03-26-22, 16:33
Thinking about it, I'm not being discreet talking about it here on this message board, Westyyyyy can I delete some of my messages in the future?
Oh nooooo I hope this chats can not be search in google, what type of keywords can they type to find my chats.I logged out, and in the ISG search box I typed: "Westyyyyy", and it brought me right back to your recent post. So, ya, anyone can search the open Board. You can edit or delete any post for 60 minutes after you post it. After 60 minutes, you can click on the bottom-left of any posted msg, the "Report Post" button, and ask Admin to delete your post.
PM's can not be searched by anyone other than the Board member.
Your story above is funny and I wouldn't be surprise if it is true, there are morons everywhere like they are rookies.What have you typed in your posts that she would searching google? You haven't named anyone in your posts, and the information is mostly non-specific.
The only problem would be if you really are Steve Nash, that would be a major rookie error.
WestCoast1
03-27-22, 13:06
The only problem would be if you really are Steve Nash, that would be a major rookie error.He probably likes NBA all-star Steve Nash, who is also kanuk.
Mom, dad, why did you name me 'West'? "Because it was Yeezy. Now shut up and mow the grass".
Check.
After an epic struggle with Swiss Air who I will never book with again I'm landing in NAIA at 15.30 and I need to get to Olongopo.
I've been advised by my Filipina that it's better if I head straight to Dau bus terminal rather than attempt to take a bus from Pasay or Cubao as she said they will be too crowded and crazy. Although there are regular buses from Pasay which I'd easily make.
From what I found online there seems to be a Genesis bus from NAIA at 1700 or 1730.
Question, does anyone know what time the last bus from Dau to Olongopo is or failing that how much a taxi would a taxi cost? Or is getting a bus from Pasay really that bad? Please advise me.
WestCoast1
03-27-22, 16:14
Question, does anyone know what time the last bus from Dau to Olongopo is or failing that how much a taxi would a taxi cost? Or is getting a bus from Pasay really that bad? Please advise me.I am not sure of the bus route times. I am not sure that they have definitive departure times, they tend to leave when 'enough' individuals have boarded the bus to make a run worthwhile.
With that said, I don't see the need to race to Olongopo your first night. A number of options:
1) Go as you have mentioned.
2) Spend a night in Pasay / Malate for rest, and take the bus the next morning. Invite the girl to meet you at NAIA.
3) Catch any bus to Dau, spend the night in AC. Invite the girl to meet you in AC. Travel to Olongopo in the morning.
Question, does anyone know what time the last bus from Dau to Olongopo is or failing that how much a taxi would a taxi cost?The AC / Subic taxi / private car mafia is pretty aggressive. This won't affect your safety but it does mean that the price from AC to Subic will be only slightly less than one direct from Manila. Don't quote me because it was long ago but I think the last car I took from Subic to AC was about 3 k. That price may have radically changed due to COVID, low business's etc. If it was me, if I was to include a car, I wouldn't use it for part of the journey. Full door to door would be much easier and likely cheaper over all anyway.
I have taken some pretty late busses from Dau to Subic, arriving late into the night. Certainly much later than the times you have mentioned.
Good luck. G.
Transporter
03-28-22, 11:58
I would highly advise taking a bus direct to olongapo (freeport).
For most that travel there, they use the cheapest transportation, therefore it is crowded and uncomfortable, but more than likely you will spend the few hundred to ride in 5 star comfort. Those buses are never full, and it is very comfortable to travel in.
The only problem I see is the time you arrive, as I don't know the bus schedules. Worst case scenario you can always just catch a private car or taxi direct, however the fee will be around 4K
I don't recall anything direct from the airport, but you can catch a taxi to the bus terminal in pasay or buendia.
After an epic struggle with Swiss Air who I will never book with again I'm landing in NAIA at 15.30 and I need to get to Olongopo.
I've been advised by my Filipina that it's better if I head straight to Dau bus terminal rather than attempt to take a bus from Pasay or Cubao as she said they will be too crowded and crazy. Although there are regular buses from Pasay which I'd easily make.
From what I found online there seems to be a Genesis bus from NAIA at 1700 or 1730.
Question, does anyone know what time the last bus from Dau to Olongopo is or failing that how much a taxi would a taxi cost? Or is getting a bus from Pasay really that bad? Please advise me.
Expat American
03-31-22, 17:48
6 to 8 hours is plenty of time to hook-up.
I used to do 3-4 hours back on 2020 for like 6 months. I don't do it that much now since I have more free time when my living partner goes to her hometown for 4-5 days to do something important or because I'm traveling alot mostly with her or alone (I have to come up with a good excuse for that one of course).
My routine on 2020 was, like Westcoast suggest it, go online and set-up dates, make sure the girl will arrived before you, tell her that you have work to do (in my case working online on my laptop) and that's why you will be late, of course tell them this when they left their place already (they should always leave before you, specially since they go by jeepney and you go by taxi).
Then once you know she is there or in her way close to the meeting place. You tell your partner (or wife), I'm going for a run or I'm going to the gym, the great thing about these two excuses, is that you can do this everyday or any day and at different times, she won't get suspicious about it. And this works perfect for day dates, it could also work at nights too, but not too late, the latest I used this excuse was 10 pm.
Another thing, is better to use the I'm going to run excuse more than the gym excuse, because she might go to the gym and look for you, or ask you which gym you go to, and you will have doubts if she will show up. It happened to me twice, she show up at the gym and text me where I was, I told her I was in the gym and then decided to go for a run. Not sure if she believe me or not, but she was fine with my excuse. The other time she shows up in the place I run most of the time, of couse I told her that I went to run in another place (is important to have at least 2 or 3 places that you run), that's more believable since people usually have multiple places to run in case they get bored of the same place.
Once you meet the girl try to have a short but very meaningful date, meaning try to connect with her ASAP, time is your biggest enemy in this type of dates. 1-2 hours should be enough for you to bring up the discussion about taking her to a short hotel.
The way I did it was to ask her: Do you want to come to my place? If she says yes, then I will say: Oh shit! I remember my landlord doesn't allow me to bring guess anymore, since last time I bring a group of friends they got drunk and started making noises and left the place a mess. Trust me they will be believe you.
When you bring up the short hotel, of course she will ask you why there, my excuse was always because I want some privacy so we can chill more freely and have bonding experience, we can drink and listen to music (I always had drinks and my speaker on my schoolbag), I can teach you how to dance salsa or you want me to teach you here in front of strangers. LOL. Say things that you can do with her without mentioning sex of course, I know is hard to believe that, but if you distract her enough and if she trust you enough she will say Yes. If she is tipsy is better but during the day is hard to make them tipsy. In their minds they know if they go to a short hotel they will have sex, so you got to present it in a way that is not too obvious, because at that point she already like you, and she is just deciding if she want to have sex on the first date or make you wait abit.
Some girls will say I don't have sex in the first date, then just try it on the second date which I guaranteed you she will say Yes.
If she doesn't want to go to the short hotel cut the date short (come up with an excuse), and then call one of your friends / mistress (some one who is waiting you for a short notice sex, they need to know you have a partner and be ok with it), is good to have afew of those girls as back-up plan, and is better if she lives close by. In your case since you have a longer time (6 to 8 hours) then you can set up a second date.
Once the sex is done and you got to go back to your partner, even though you took a good shower in the short hotel, chances are she can smell sex from your clothes or your body, so what I do is I go to one of the street food vendors and buy chicken / pork grill barbecue (my favorite). I stay close to the vendor so the smell of grill meat stays in my body and clothes. With this technique she will never smell you had sex.
I had many times had sex with my dates and then 1-2 hours later I had sex with my living partner, and she never notice it once.
Even when she does the laundry the grill smell will stay in your clothes for days.
The more you do this the better you will get, the better you will become at recognizing which girl is ready for you to take her to the short hotel. I recommend the girls you think will say Yes to meet them in your run days, the girls you are not sure will say Yes to meet then on your gym days, that way if your partner ends up going to the gym and text you where you are, it will be easier to ditch off your date and go meet your partner.
Set-up dates everyday, and make sure your partner knows that you workout and run everyday at different times depending of your work schedule or whatever you are busy with.
Doing this I was able to hook-up with 2 to 4 girls every week while I was living with my living partner.
I know some hater out there will say why are you advocating cheating. Well he asked that question, so that means he will do it anyways.
Remember cheating in Philippines is very normal, you see it in movies, I see it in the family members of my living partner when they openly talk about a family member being with mistress number 2 or mistress number 3, or comparing themselves how many mistress they had, one had 9 and with 7 of them he had kids, LOL.
There is a reason short hotels are very popular here in Philippines. So I'm just following the culture here.
Plus the more important thing is when I do it, I do it very discreet, I easily cancel dates or plans, I always choose my partner first.
I know eventually I will stop this hobby, but I got to enjoy it while it last.That sounds like a lot of work and stress. Wouldn't it be easier to find a partner that understands your needs and lets you play when you need to as long as you come home? As a Rich White Man in Philippines you should be able to find that. Hell, my Singaporean 20 year younger than me wife also accepts my need to play as long as I don't fall in love and come back home to her. Its much much less stressful that way!
Member #4794
04-02-22, 08:08
That sounds like a lot of work and stress. Wouldn't it be easier to find a partner that understands your needs and lets you play when you need to as long as you come home? As a Rich White Man in Philippines you should be able to find that. Hell, my Singaporean 20 year younger than me wife also accepts my need to play as long as I don't fall in love and come back home to her. Its much much less stressful that way!Good advice, Some mongers will never understand this, they get off on the deception more than the sex itself. Repeatedly getting away with deceiving someone gets them off makes them feel good knowing that they are "cheating" for whatever reason. In all my arrangements I always have the conversation about the non monogamous situation. They get compensated well for staying and possibly get their whole families needs taken care of if they are not able to understand my personal needs they aren't a good fit and I move on and keep fucking until I find one that has some foresight. There is no reason to sneak around unless you get off on it. You can find a women that fits your needs if you are brave / open enough to discuss it.
Member #4794
04-02-22, 08:15
Anyone know of a reliable testing center in manila? To enter the US one needs a rapid test given by a person, the self tests I have are not accepted unless they include a teledoc call which they don't unfortunately.
So I need to find a lab in manila if anyone has used a testing enter and had good results please pass along where you went.
I have also been considering the mobile testing has anyone used any mobile testing where they come to your hotel room, if so please pass along the business you used.
Thanks in advance!
WestCoast1
04-02-22, 10:10
Anyone know of a reliable testing center in manila? To enter the US one needs a rapid test given by a person, the self tests I have are not accepted unless they include a teledoc call which they don't unfortunately.
So I need to find a lab in manila if anyone has used a testing enter and had good results please pass along where you went.
I have also been considering the mobile testing has anyone used any mobile testing where they come to your hotel room, if so please pass along the business you used.
Thanks in advance!As a repeat. There is a testing site right next to Robinson's Malate. It is on Padre Faura street, at the corner of Adriatico St. As a reference point, just across Adriatico St on the corner is the 7-11 next to G-Point Bar. It is a PCR test. Results show in your email about 8 hours after the test (complete with validation QR code). The testing center is run by PAL. Cost was p2600 at the time. If you exit Robinson's onto Faura St, turn left, and walk half a block (just before Adriatico St), the testing center (and PAL ticketing center) is on your left, inside a gate. Showing up at the 9 am opening means having emailed results by sundown.
Google and FB searches for "Covid testing Manila" are your best friend.
WestCoast1
04-02-22, 19:02
I have also been considering the mobile testing has anyone used any mobile testing where they come to your hotel room, if so please pass along the business you used.
Thanks in advance!For mobile testing centers, you can do both a Google and / or FB searching for "Covid test Manila". Also, I posted previously several pics of such mobile-testing advertisements, complete with lab name and phone numbers in NCR. You make an appointment, and they send a nurse to your residence to collect the sample. Such services were running in the p5-6000 range a year ago, but they came down in price to p4000 (or just a bit less) later in 2020. Some of the ads were targeted to departing passengers who required a test within 72 hours of departure.
Some of the ads offered price breaks for time-sensitive results. You want 24-hour results, p4000 (or such). You want 12-hour results, p5000. There are dozens of such ads in social media. They started showng up in my feed a few weeks after I arrived in Manila. Soon they were clogging my feed. I would log in and get 1-2-3 ads in my feed. I could log out, then log right back in, and see 1-2 new ads quickly in the feed.
Pics below of one such walk-in lab, Lakambini Lab. Taft Ave (under the train overpass) at the corner of San Juan St, one block north of Buendia (also called Gil Puyat St), in Pasay. Just next door to LaVerti Residences on Taft Ave.
Member #4794
04-02-22, 21:43
The testing center is run by PAL. Cost was p2600 at the time. Thankfully flying to the US we don't need the PCR test for the US they accept a rapid antigen tests these the results just need to come from somewhere other than a self test, you can use use a self test you brought with you from the US if that test is accompanied with a teledoc session which mine do not, which is sad because they are the ones biden handed out for "FREE". I will use google as a last resort if there is not a more reliable testing center / lab that someone uses here or one someone has used to successfully fly to the US.
Rapid tests should only run somewhere south of 1k, most of the tests seem to be in the 750 php range, they say they provide home service for that 750 but I am not sure how that works.
https://www.klook.com/en-US/activity/54021-metro-manila-rt-pcr-antigen-home-testing/
I dont have to take this test for a few weeks so thanks for the heads up i will walk over to that testing center near Robinsons since its close to my hotel that doesnt show up in my google searches nor google maps so ill see if i can find it. There is however a giant hospital on the other side of Robinsons that i have never been to. It says it is a covid testing site as well.
Member #4794
04-02-22, 22:44
CDC approved?
https://ph.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/doctors/
The embassy makes no note of approved testing sites.
The notice from the CDC.
(https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html#text=If%20 you%20 plan%20 to%20 travel, before%20 you%20 board%20 your%20 flight.).
Says they accept rapid tests that " meet the requirements under the Order".
Kind of irks me that the manila embassy says nothing about this since it is a requirement and gives no guidance on providers they accept within the philippines and one of the services the embassy is suppose to offer is medical assistance, at the very least releasing a list of labs in manila they accept would be prudent, since this is not optional and the order says they do not accept ALL rapid tests (I assume they do accept them all, given they accept some at home tests, however that not what the order states).
EDIT: a-little more digging i found they kind of do give a list of centers they should accept.
https://ph.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/
It seems as if they will accept DOH approved labs and the DOH has a list of approved labs. However this list does not have any licensed rapid antigen labs and it seems to be a list of licensed PCR test labs.
https://doh.gov.ph/licensed-covid-19-testing-laboratories
Dashing Don
04-02-22, 23:06
Thankfully flying to the US we don't need the PCR test for the US they accept a rapid antigen tests these the results just need to come from somewhere other than a self test, you can use use a self test you brought with you from the US if that test is accompanied with a teledoc session which mine do not, which is sad because they are the ones biden handed out for "FREE". I will use google as a last resort if there is not a more reliable testing center / lab that someone uses here or one someone has used to successfully fly to the US.
Rapid tests should only run somewhere south of 1k, most of the tests seem to be in the 750 php range, they say they provide home service for that 750 but I am not sure how that works.
https://www.klook.com/en-US/activity/54021-metro-manila-rt-pcr-antigen-home-testing/
I dont have to take this test for a few weeks so thanks for the heads up i will walk over to that testing center near Robinsons since its close to my hotel that doesnt show up in my google searches nor google maps so ill see if i can find it. There is however a giant hospital on the other side of Robinsons that i have never been to. It says it is a covid testing site as well.Centuria Medical. Gen Luna St which is a stone's throw from City Garden Grand. 12th floor. Room 1201 as I recall. $1200 piso. They give the test results to you right then and there.
Big Kahuna
04-03-22, 03:00
Centuria Medical. Gen Luna St which is a stone's throw from City Garden Grand. 12th floor. Room 1201 as I recall. $1200 piso. They give the test results to you right then and there.At Terminal 3 NAIA level 3. 600 php and they give you a hard copy within 20 minutes.
Just took one on March 29.
As you face the terminal entrance it's to the far left.
You can ask any guard or ground staff.
At Terminal 3 NAIA level 3. 600 php and they give you a hard copy within 20 minutes.
Just took one on March 29.
As you face the terminal entrance it's to the far left.
You can ask any guard or ground staff.Thanks. That is a big help!
AsianPursuits
04-03-22, 06:36
Anyone know of a reliable testing center in manila? To enter the US one needs a rapid test given by a person, the self tests I have are not accepted unless they include a teledoc call which they don't unfortunately.For other travellers do keep appraised of changing testing requirements. Many countries follow similar advice as the pandemic progresses.
Australia has recently removed the requirement for pre-departure covid tests for incoming vaccinated passengers. Perhaps other governments (I'm looking at you GOV. PH) will start to realize that arriving vaccinated passengers are lower risk than the current Ph community risk. Possibly the same in USA.
In my personal case it is 6 weeks before I arrive in Ph. That's a long time in covid-years so I am making an assumption requirements will change either in my Ph arrival requirements, my return requirements, both or none.
WestCoast1
04-09-22, 18:38
Good morning gents.
From the Westy archives, she charmed the pants off me. Twice.
Hi everyone,
I am flying to Manila and Angeles city soon. I have been looking around for escorts. I found a bunch of "spas" on massage republic with cheap massage rates (2000 for 2 hours nuru or lingram).
For somewhere like this - https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-manila/misaki-spa what would the rough fee be for a happy ending or sex?
Thankyou in advance.
Soapy Smith
04-12-22, 02:58
WC reported a while back that LA Cafe was operating as a restaurant only. Information about them on Google Maps suggests they're operating 24 hours, and the picture looks like the entryway may have been altered. Does anybody have information on any of the freelancer bars in Ermita? Slow to return to life? Are there freelancers hanging out in Robinson's Place or on the street near Adriatico and Pedro Gil? Inquiring minds want to know.
WestCoast1
04-12-22, 04:35
WC reported a while back that LA Cafe was operating as a restaurant only. Information about them on Google Maps suggests they're operating 24 hours, and the picture looks like the entryway may have been altered. Does anybody have information on any of the freelancer bars in Ermita? Slow to return to life? Are there freelancers hanging out in Robinson's Place or on the street near Adriatico and Pedro Gil? Inquiring minds want to know.Steve Nash reported after me that he saw FL inside LAC when he was there last. I believe that was early January. Separately, G-Point Bar on Faura / Adriatico had re-opened as daytime-only lunch place. Last time I saw it as such was November. Any more recent intel on either place would be great.
Robinson's. The FL inside the Pedro Gil entrance (near Starbucks) had gone back into swing around August, with slightly better looking (and better dressed girls) walking the area around Starbucks and the Atrium. Most days, by noon, were 2-5 gals. One came several days a week, she is a tiny, 19-20 yo, well-dressed smokin' hottie. She does her best to look dis-interested and not make eye contact. But the high heels, and the fact that she never leaves the area from Starbucks to Pedro Gil entrance, and is there for several hours, says she's in the game. Twice I saw a men approach her and chat, then walk away. Possibly her initial price was too high. Other times I saw her get no date, and go home. "Go big, or go. . . ".
Arya Resto, the halal place next to Uncle Chefy, Pedro Gil / Adriatico. On the steps out front (across the street from McDo), by mid-afternoon, were gathering 2-3 girls, and by sundown up to 8 (very average) girls. Oddly the all seemed to know where the nearby ST hotels were!
At the time, before the foreigners came back, I saw the same gents in Robinson's. I went several days a week for a Starbucks or other coffee / foods. There weren't very many of us foreigners, and there were rarely more than 3-4 of us in the mall at the same time (many times I was the only white man in the mall). Talk about a buyer's market.
Soapy Smith
04-13-22, 06:16
Steve Nash reported after me that he saw FL inside LAC when he was there last. I believe that was early January. Separately, G-Point Bar on Faura / Adriatico had re-opened as daytime-only lunch place. Last time I saw it as such was November. Any more recent intel on either place would be great.Thanks for the field report and the PM. G-Point's information on Google Maps says they're open from 11 am to 4 am. May or may not be accurate.
WestCoast1
04-13-22, 15:39
Thanks for the field report and the PM. G-Point's information on Google Maps says they're open from 11 am to 4 am. May or may not be accurate.Like checking a hotel's current guest policy, you would have to call G-Point and ask their hours. Do NOT trust the current info on G Maps for any business in Phils. A few examples:
1) G Maps shows a McDonalds at a certain location, and shows it as open 24 hours. You walk or go there to discover that the place caught fire 9 months ago and burned to the ground. The charrred remains have not yet been cleared.
2) G Maps shows a hotel's location, phone number, address, room rates, and so on. It appears to be a possible ST place for you in the future. One day while riding by on that street in a jeep you notice the hotel, exit the jeep, and approach the hotel to check rates and guest policy. The hotel's doors are locked, the lights are off, and nobody is inside. You call the phone number and get no answer. A local says the place closed at the start of the pandemic, 18 months prior.
3) G Maps shows a mall is open, giving the hours of operation. In reality it closed last Monday, the start of a higher Alert Level.
Nobody in Phils updates their business' Google info when things change.
Gen X Baer
04-16-22, 07:00
Had to move here due to work and it's barren from the excursions I experienced past two days. If anyone has any insite or advise would highly appreciate.
Steve Nash
04-16-22, 11:44
That sounds like a lot of work and stress. Wouldn't it be easier to find a partner that understands your needs and lets you play when you need to as long as you come home? As a Rich White Man in Philippines you should be able to find that. Hell, my Singaporean 20 year younger than me wife also accepts my need to play as long as I don't fall in love and come back home to her. Its much much less stressful that way!Sorry I been very busy lately to reply here, but today I have time.
I hope everyone are having an awesome time here in the Philippines now that the borders are open.
ExpatAmerican about your advise. Honestly, I have that already back in Canada, she is been faithfully waiting for me for 4 years, she knows I have a GF in Philippines which I'm serious about, but she is still hoping it won't work out, my girl in Canada is 13 years younger than me BTW.
I'm not an old rich white man BTW, I'm in my early 40's, but I look at least 10 yrs younger from what I been told. And I'm not rich either, I work hard to save money for every trip I make. And I look more Filipino than white. Latinos and Filipinos get that alot.
Anyways, I'm tired of having open relationships, I want to settle down and have a family before I hit 45 (worse case scenario before I'm 50). Don't get me wrong I love open relationships, but to be honest for me those relationships are empty relationships, where only the woman (on my case) loves the man and put up with his shit, you will never going to love that person like a normal relationship should be. It happened to me with my girl back in Canada, I tried my best to see a future with her but because the relationship started as an open relationship I just couldn't see myself been with her in the long run and also being faithful to her, I see her more like a best friend with booty (she has a big bootie that drives me crazy sometimes). In the other hand my GF here in Philippines not only she is very attractive, smart and hardworker but we have great chemistry, and even thought I been cheating on her for 2 years, I can see her as my partner for life and me not cheating on her. I know is hard to believe that since I been doing that for 2 years, BUT I know I can do it, I have done that before being faithful and in a committed relationship for a couple of years.
I been a monger for more than 13 years now, I think is time for me to retire, not offense to no one here but I don't want to be an old guy paying for sex, I want to have a family, I been having lots of sex since I was 14 (25+ years), I love it as a hobby, specially I love it when they fall so easily not for the money (I don't like paying), but because they really see me as someone they can date and have a serious relationship with (I know, maybe some of them see me as someone who can give them a better future too), BUT that was before, now I'm looking to find the right woman for me where we can grow old together. I'm taking my time with this girl because I want to be 100 percent sure she is the right one.
Anyways, I'm the opposite from most guys here, I never had a family before so is time for me to settle down before is too late.
So yeah, I agree in the sense that if all you want is to have sex you should find someone who can put up with your adventures instead of cheating, like the open relationships I had in the past. BUT at this point I'm way pass that, so I'm looking for something different.
Steve Nash
04-16-22, 11:50
Had to move here due to work and it's barren from the excursions I experienced past two days. If anyone has any insite or advise would highly appreciate.Lots of hotties in Alabang, go to ATC mall, you will see lots of hotties there, I had dated 2 girls from Alabang (6-7 years ago) and we always go there to watch movies, you will see lots of hotties in that mall. Can not say much about it since is been a long time.
Steve Nash
04-16-22, 11:54
Steve Nash reported after me that he saw FL inside LAC when he was there last. I believe that was early January. Separately, G-Point Bar on Faura / Adriatico had re-opened as daytime-only lunch place. Last time I saw it as such was November. Any more recent intel on either place would be great.
Robinson's. The FL inside the Pedro Gil entrance (near Starbucks) had gone back into swing around August, with slightly better looking (and better dressed girls) walking the area around Starbucks and the Atrium. Most days, by noon, were 2-5 gals. One came several days a week, she is a tiny, 19-20 yo, well-dressed smokin' hottie. She does her best to look dis-interested and not make eye contact. But the high heels, and the fact that she never leaves the area from Starbucks to Pedro Gil entrance, and is there for several hours, says she's in the game. Twice I saw a men approach her and chat, then walk away. Possibly her initial price was too high. Other times I saw her get no date, and go home. "Go big, or go. . . ".
Arya Resto, the halal place next to Uncle Chefy, Pedro Gil / Adriatico. On the steps out front (across the street from McDo), by mid-afternoon, were gathering 2-3 girls, and by sundown up to 8 (very average) girls. Oddly the all seemed to know where the nearby ST hotels were!
At the time, before the foreigners came back, I saw the same gents in Robinson's. I went several days a week for a Starbucks or other coffee / foods. There weren't very many of us foreigners, and there were rarely more than 3-4 of us in the mall at the same time (many times I was the only white man in the mall). Talk about a buyer's market.I probably told you I saw some FL outside LAC, but not inside, last time I was in LAC was a while ago like 5-6 years ago.
Sorry I been very busy lately to reply here, but today I have time.
I hope everyone are having an awesome time here in the Philippines now that the borders are open.
Anyways, I'm tired of having open relationships, I want to settle down and have a family before I hit 45 (worse case scenario before I'm 50). I'm taking my time with this girl because I want to be 100 percent sure she is the right one.
Anyways, I'm the opposite from most guys here, I never had a family before so is time for me to settle down before is too late.
So yeah, I agree in the sense that if all you want is to have sex you should find someone who can put up with your adventures instead of cheating, like the open relationships I had in the past. BUT at this point I'm way pass that, so I'm looking for something different.You are no spring chicken. You are in no position trying for ideal relationship. Just get married, sooner the better. Have kids quickly before you do not have energy to run around with your kids. Even most well planned desirable marriages have fallen apart.
Mongering is an addiction. In my case I could never stop it. But I started after getting married and having kids. It started mostly with traveling all over the world. In fact first time I went to Bangkok I never knew it is a sex capital. Someone told me not to miss live sex show. I was so scared to visit seedy places I told the taxi driver to stay with me the whole time till he dropped me off at my hotel. On the way back he showed me some pictures of the girls I can pick up. I just lied to him saying I already had a girl in the room. I did not feel safe till I was in my room. Next day I booked a massage in the hotel where the lady had her way with me including sex without negotiating anything. I was horny from the previous night watching live sex show. In fact I did not give her any extra money other than normal tip added to my room account. I have come a long way since then. This experience opened the world to me about mongering all across the globe. Till then I was only involved with dinner, movie, sex sometimes routine.
I hope you will be able to put mongering aside after getting married.
AsianPursuits
04-16-22, 21:52
Anyways, I'm the opposite from most guys here, I never had a family before so is time for me to settle down before is too late.We are all the same. All the punters on here we all think we look 10 years younger.
But the best thing about punting is that the age of the girls stay the same, while we age. We are still fucking 20-25 year old girls as we were 20 years ago.
Good luck on settling down. There are many good Filipina but I would consider that the 'successful marriage Filipina' comes from a different genre to the girls that we mix with as punters.
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