Manila

[Gen X Baer]

Lots of hotties in Alabang, go to ATC mall, you will see lots of hotties there, I had dated 2 girls from Alabang (6-7 years ago) and we always go there to watch movies, you will see lots of hotties in that mall. Can not say much about it since is been a long time.Think the scene has changed in ATC mall Or could be as it was Easter Sunday but more alot of couples, families, or groups of girls and boys running around. Couldn't really take note of any girls walking around on their own looking bored and wanting company. As for the attractivess, well perhaps I'm picky, but slim and boobsy was definitely not visible. Thick and bigger were more the flock (maybe an effect of the pandemic).

Spent a good 3 hours checking out the area and visiting the nooks and crannies of the Mall. Agreed the cinema area looks like a nice play to watch a movie. There's a huge GameZone if ones company wants to be distracted or you want to make a friendly bet with your girl of loser has to provide oral pleasure later.

Any more advice on the Alabang Muntinlupa area will be appreciated. Will provide updates on the scene here when I can check things out and report.

GX.

[Expat American]

Sorry I been very busy lately to reply here, but today I have time.

I hope everyone are having an awesome time here in the Philippines now that the borders are open.

ExpatAmerican about your advise. Honestly, I have that already back in Canada, she is been faithfully waiting for me for 4 years, she knows I have a GF in Philippines which I'm serious about, but she is still hoping it won't work out, my girl in Canada is 13 years younger than me BTW.

I'm not an old rich white man BTW, I'm in my early 40's, but I look at least 10 yrs younger from what I been told. And I'm not rich either, I work hard to save money for every trip I make. And I look more Filipino than white. Latinos and Filipinos get that alot.

Anyways, I'm tired of having open relationships, I want to settle down and have a family before I hit 45 (worse case scenario before I'm 50). Don't get me wrong I love open relationships, but to be honest for me those relationships are empty relationships, where only the woman (on my case) loves the man and put up with his shit, you will never going to love that person like a normal relationship should be. It happened to me with my girl back in Canada, I tried my best to see a future with her but because the relationship started as an open relationship I just couldn't see myself been with her in the long run and also being faithful to her, I see her more like a best friend with booty (she has a big bootie that drives me crazy sometimes). In the other hand my GF here in Philippines not only she is very attractive, smart and hardworker but we have great chemistry, and even thought I been cheating on her for 2 years, I can see her as my partner for life and me not cheating on her. I know is hard to believe that since I been doing that for 2 years, BUT I know I can do it, I have done that before being faithful and in a committed relationship for a couple of years.To each their own, but I love my wife more than any other woman I have dated or married before and her understanding and accepting my needs is a big reason why. There is no "normal relationship. You say you love to monger but will give it up. Believe me, no woman will ever change that about you. You are who you are and there is nothing wrong with that. But there is something wrong with cheating and betraying someone you love. I speak from experience as I have done that to all my previous partners. Whichever girl you settle with, let her know and accept ALL of you. Otherwise it will never work.

[DarthTrump]

Is grab still working? Normally you could get a grab right outside the airport to the hotel from a grab booth. Is it still there.

[Dg8787]

Is grab still working? Normally you could get a grab right outside the airport to the hotel from a grab booth. Is it still there.Grab is working in Manila. I did not see a Grab Booth outside of Terminal 3. But I wasn't looking for it either. I did not see a long line for Grab either.

[Steve Nash]

To each their own, but I love my wife more than any other woman I have dated or married before and her understanding and accepting my needs is a big reason why. There is no "normal relationship. You say you love to monger but will give it up. Believe me, no woman will ever change that about you. You are who you are and there is nothing wrong with that. But there is something wrong with cheating and betraying someone you love. I speak from experience as I have done that to all my previous partners. Whichever girl you settle with, let her know and accept ALL of you. Otherwise it will never work.When I say normal relationship I mean monogamous relationship, I had one before, my parents have that, my sisters, brother have that, most of my couisins have that and most of my friends have that, to be honest unless you are from a muslim country or one of those countries that is normal to have multiple partners, you won't see non-monogamous relationship as normal in the west, there is a reason a person is shy to tell their friends that they are in an open relationship, I have had lots of open relationships in the past and I always keep it a secret because I don't want my partner to be embarrass and judge for accepting that type of relationship, if you are thinking is not embarrassing to your partner for accepting your sins, you are fooling yourself.

Ask your wife if she has to pick you been monogamous or non-monogamous which one would she pick? I know all my open relationship exes would say monogamous and I'm sure your wife will say the same unless she likes sleeping with others too.

Once again I repeat, open relationships where the guy is sleeping with multiple women and the GF / wife is not because she is faithfully waiting for him to change is not good, I told my ex (of 4 years in Canada) multiple times to find someone else, she did it once but then she regret it and promised me not to do it again because she is still thinking that my relationship won't workout, she even told me she will wait until I get married, once I get married with someone else she will stop and forget me. I feel pitty for her and bad about it, and after this last open relationship I decided not to have anymore open relationships until I get married and have my own family.

At first I thought open relationships are good because you wash your hands and is her fault for accepting that, but then when I saw how much she was suffering and how low she became by accepting my relationship with my GF in Philippines and even promised me to be faithful and wait for me until I get married, she was willing to wait for me even after I have other serious relationships, that's how fucked up our open relationship make her change. I'm not OK with that, maybe you are OK with convincing and changing your wife to accept you, but for me I'm not OK with watching my ex have such a low self-esteem because of our relationship.

Yeah I been cheating on my GF for 2 years, BUT remember that my relationship with her right now is a long distance relationship (I know I visit her alot and I spent 40% of those 3 years with her), but is still a long distance relationship, she lives in Philippines and I live in Canada, so is not a normal relationship, so the cheating happened in those circumstances, once I propose to her which should happen soon on this trip I will completely stop all my cheating, I will actually stop in a week when I finish with my last solo trip.

After that not more cheating, you might not believe me, but remember just because you couldn't stop your cheating and be in a monogamous relationship it doesn't mean others can not do it. I agree that no one will change the way you are, it needs to come from you, from within you, only you can change it, and I'm willing to change because I want to have a family and get married.

[Steve Nash]

I hope you will be able to put mongering aside after getting married.I will certainly do, that's my main goal!

Once married not more cheating, and have a happy family.

[Steve Nash]

We are all the same. All the punters on here we all think we look 10 years younger.My goal is to be like my dad (20 years younger), I'm half way there, LOL.

I still can not believe I was asked for ID a couple years ago, not once but twice within a year back in Canada, one in a liquor store (by a Filipina) in a lake / beach in Ontario, and the second one in a CFL game.


But the best thing about punting is that the age of the girls stay the same, while we age. We are still fucking 20-25 year old girls as we were 20 years ago.

Good luck on settling down. There are many good Filipina but I would consider that the 'successful marriage Filipina' comes from a different genre to the girls that we mix with as punters.That's why I'm taking my time with my GF, almost 3 years now (40% of the time living together), and I'm convince now, so is time to propose!

[Turgid]

......I been a monger for more than 13 years now, I think is time for me to retire.....I've been a monger for 50 years now and now beginning to think that I should settle into a monogamous relationship.

[GuyReynolds]

Current rates for gogo girls, bar girls, and FL? I know things have changed so wondering if there's a range, since everything is negotiable. Is Manila worth it or Angeles is better?

Best girl friendly hotels near the action to stay at? Has anyone found a hotel where the girls don't need to show Vax info to allow entry or is this a situation where I will have to "donate" to the staff / guards? Would like something not too expensive with gym and food. Based on prior reports, some girls don't like going to hotels too close to the action, so wondering if there's a good one that's a reasonable distance for walking and girls are willing to go into.

[Papae Noel]

Is Manila worth it?

Best girl friendly hotels near the action to stay at? Has anyone found a hotel where the girls don't need to show Vax info.Haven't been in Angeles City in 20 or more years, however Manila is worth it. Good people here, and enough to do during the day. Weather is pretty uncomfortable, so personally I don't do too much in the daytime. Today was 94 F. Hotel pool is a good place to be!

Near the action? I don't know of all the well known areas of action like some of the active members in this sub forum (WestCoast1), but Malate has alot of action, whether freelance, clubs, or KTVs. I haven't been to any of them here in Malate, but seems like it is a good scene. I'm staying at the Sheraton Manila Bay, maybe one of the pricier hotels of Manila, but not prohibitively expensive in my opinion. It is definitely near that action. None of the girls that have come here were gogo, pro, or freelancers. Never were they asked to sign in, or show any vaccination card. They text me when they are in the lobby, and sit in one of the few chairs only a few feet from Reception. The hotel staff, perhaps respects the hotel guest enough to not bother the visitors.

I'll get around to making a field report on my one evening enjoying P. Burgos Street in Makati, which definitely is an area of action.

[Member #4794]

if there's a good one that's a reasonable distance for walking and girls are willing to go into.On my trip to manila a few days ago. I visited LA Cafe and picked up a freelancer hanging around LA cafe and we went to the short time hotel near LA Cafe. It is NOT the Hilton but it will get the job done. If you travel down Del Pilar north from LA cafe right after the green paint you'll see a entrance to a non descript hotel they will provide you a room for 600 no questions asked.

On P Burgos I haven't been this trip but right across from the Mexican cantia is another nondescript short time hotel. looks like its part of the astor but it is not.

[Member #4794]

On my trip to manila a few days ago. I visited LA Cafe and picked up a freelancer hanging around LA cafe and we went to the short time hotel near LA Cafe. It is NOT the Hilton but it will get the job done. If you travel down Del Pilar north from LA cafe right after the green paint you'll see a entrance to a non descript hotel they will provide you a room for 600 no questions asked.
Might as well write a small trip report about this. I went to LA Cafe in the middle of the day but was almost totally dead inside. So I walked around LA Cafe and there are almost always some lower grade hookers to be found around this area I am a hooker aficionado.

I enjoy $10 hookers just as much as $1000 hookers. Its all about the experience. The first girl I saw was not acceptable however they ushered over another girl who was acceptable. We agreed upon a 1500St price but the mama san wanted a 500 tip which I agreed to and I explicitly told the mama I would pay the rest after to which she agreed. I went to the short time room mentioned above but before the deed she requested the money up front to which I replied "no way in hell". If the girls want the money up front in these situations they plan to do a runner or try to get by with trying to hurry you to finish as quickly as possible and that is exactly what happened. So I tried to flip her over to doggy and she said she didn't like. So I said I guess you don't like money either so she quickly got into position. She kept trying to get me to cum faster reminiscent of a mainland China hooker almost nostalgic for me. After her going into a full on tantrum about how long it was taking the deed was done even if it was very far from GFE this was a flavor a hooker I haven't seen in a long while. Gave her her money and she actually asked me if I would do it again after all her misgivings go figure.

and with that this run has come to and end

I am a Dirty Foreigner I don't screw around, I screw straight up and down, I screw your wives your barfines and your fiancées and your girlfriends when you are out of town. Until next time!

[Papae Noel]

I enjoy P. Burgos for one night only. I spend alot of time in Bangkok and Pattaya, and much prefer Thailand for a few reasons, but the filipinas are sometimes more interesting, and I also find them a little less hardcore than Thai girls, so it's easier to get hardcore, if that makes any sense.

Lips. Is on the closest side street to Makati. You will go up some stairs to get into Lips, as there is also a separate club, located downstairs. Fun enough if you are drunk enough. I was. Probably the best part is the nice waitresses on staff. I actually enjoyed the club, it is not a "rip off the customer" venue, and alot of space. Recommended.

Saharat. Is not called Saharat anymore. Good chicks in here, definitely a higher hiring standard. New Chinese owner. Recommended.

Coco Rock. Upstairs, just prior to entrance for Nautica. No comment except that it was not unique, and uninteresting, for my personal taste.

Dimples. On a side street off of Burgos. Place has not changed too much, except for the seating areas and lack of a central stage (there is no go-go dancing, as in the past. It's not that you should expect more mileage here than other places, but there was one girl that was quite liberal with me. She wears a long dress, but makes sure to raise the dress. She is sans panties, so you can check out her moistness while she checks out your hardness.

Dimples pre-Covid was also open in the day time, and was a little wild back then. Manila is still Alert Level 1, so at the moment it is not possible for any of these places to open during the day, according to a waitress. At night time, they used to have an area partitioned off for possibly full on action. Of course that was not necessarily why a dancer would take you back there, but it did cost extra. Last night, I observed that area is now much more illuminated, but was never used. Some really good looking girls back then. Post Covid era is not nearly as good but expect Dimples to be one of the places to really improve.

Nautica. It's the last joint on P. Burgos street before reaching Kalayaan Ave. There is a doorman, and after you enter that front door you will see a flimsy door on your left. I had a beer and got 1 drink for a girl, then left very soon for the upstairs club.

To get there without ever entering the first club, you would just go straight thru this empty assembly area where the girls eat their pancit and balut to a staircase. Maybe the downstairs club is Nautica, and upstairs is Lollipop, but not sure. I ended up with one dancer in the back seats to do the nxxxy. Great mouth, and great pussy. Can take them upstairs for privacy, but I preferred the back seats. I get a little crazy sometimes in these little clubs. Her co-workers sort of stood in front of us to cover from the strict mamasan. The younger waitress did not mind seeing a little of our activities. Just be careful if the mamasan is nearby. So, at least it seems, this last place is for doing the deed.

[CodeName47]

I booked flights to manila and cebu. I am from melbourne. I have read the forum. I love the Hotel Classic and Travel in Jakarta. Any similar setups here?

[Goferring]

I booked flights to manila and cebu. I am from melbourne. I have read the forum. I love the Hotel Classic and Travel in Jakarta. Any similar setups here?The closest you are going to get are KTVs but the pricing is closer to Malio than Classic.

[CodeName47]

The closest you are going to get are KTVs but the pricing is closer to Malio than Classic.Thank you. I will try to learn more about KTV's. From my poor knowledge on that, not much of action possible in the venue? I could be wrong. I attempt this to learn more about in this trip.

[Goferring]

Thank you. I will try to learn more about KTV's. From my poor knowledge on that, not much of action possible in the venue? I could be wrong. I attempt this to learn more about in this trip.No, they have their own rooms for onsite service.

[CodeName47]

No, they have their own rooms for onsite service.Thank you for the information. Good to hear. I will search more.

[Biggus Dickus9]

It's going to be my first time in the Philippines. I was in Thailand a few years ago for some fun and had some suits made while I was there. Does Manila have the same type of Tailor industry where custom clothes can be made in expensively? If so any recommendations on where?

[Transporter]

It's going to be my first time in the Philippines. I was in Thailand a few years ago for some fun and had some suits made while I was there. Does Manila have the same type of Tailor industry where custom clothes can be made in expensively? If so any recommendations on where?I would have to say no. Yes but it is quite expensive for quality. If you don't mind the subpar materials and so so workmanship top floor divi usually run about 5 k for jacket and pants.

[Goferring]

I would have to say no. Yes but it is quite expensive for quality. If you don't mind the subpar materials and so so workmanship top floor divi usually run about 5 k for jacket and pants.Not PH but elsewhere I have flown in with my own material to have suits made. It worked out quite well and I was guaranteed good materials. Just make sure they use decent cotton. Quality material by the yard can be found by contacting tailor colleges back home and the shop will know how much you need just by looking at your body size.

Good luck. G.

[Interex2]

I just got back from a 6 day trip in Manila. I stayed at the New Coast Hotel which is 2 blocks from LA Club. What a wonderful hotel! Highly recommended. I got the free breakfast options, and the breakfast was amazing, pool Amazing. Everything top notch. For about $60 a night. Incredible deal. I found myself going back to the Club most nights. I have to say that the club does a lot of pressure sales, is the negative, but it's a fun place to be. The waitress there are their to make commission on you while you try and talk to the freelancers. So if you try to look at it like that, then those ladies need some of your dollars too. Most every night, the CLUB was packed. Thu-Fri-Sat the upstairs was open with a live DJ. I went upstairs on a THU and it didn't take long for the ladies to stop by. The time it took me to get to know two of the ladies was about an hour and my bill to the club was about 3,000 peso which is about $60, this after buying drinks for me, the two ladies and the waitress wanted me to buy rounds for them. So be careful you don't get roped in too deep with all the pressure sales from the wait staff. You just got to be strong and say no. Freelance prices ranged from 2000-5000 quoted out loud sitting at the table, girls looks hot there and a lot of fun. The smoke was HEAVY there, alot of smoking and you will smell like smoke when you leave. I was reading in another thread, and I did not see hardly any freelancer hanging around the Robinson Mall, they all seemed to be at the Club. Since the club is open 24/7, I dunno why you would not just go to the club, I went there at 10 am one day and had two drinks and played pool, and there was STILL freelancers in that place at 10 AM, like maybe 10 of them. At night time, there was too many to count. Maybe like 100-150 roaming around to about 20-25 guys. You have crazy ODDS. My recommendation, is don't sit there and let them come to you, that wastes time, walk the room and ask them to come sit with you so you get what you want without wasting time.

[Lalake]

I enjoy P. Burgos for one night only. I spend alot of time in Bangkok and Pattaya, and much prefer Thailand for a few reasons, but the filipinas are sometimes more interesting, and I also find them a little less hardcore than Thai girls, so it's easier to get hardcore, if that makes any sense.

Lips. Is on the closest side street to Makati. You will go up some stairs to get into Lips, as there is also a separate club, located downstairs. Fun enough if you are drunk enough. I was. Probably the best part is the nice waitresses on staff. I actually enjoyed the club, it is not a "rip off the customer" venue, and alot of space. Recommended.

Saharat. Is not called Saharat anymore. Good chicks in here, definitely a higher hiring standard. New Chinese owner. Recommended.

Coco Rock. Upstairs, just prior to entrance for Nautica. No comment except that it was not unique, and uninteresting, for my personal taste.

Dimples. On a side street off of Burgos. Place has not changed too much, except for the seating areas and lack of a central stage (there is no go-go dancing, as in the past. It's not that you should expect more mileage here than other places, but there was one girl that was quite liberal with me. She wears a long dress, but makes sure to raise the dress. She is sans panties, so you can check out her moistness while she checks out your hardness.

Dimples pre-Covid was also open in the day time, and was a little wild back then. Manila is still Alert Level 1, so at the moment it is not possible for any of these places to open during the day, according to a waitress. At night time, they used to have an area partitioned off for possibly full on action. Of course that was not necessarily why a dancer would take you back there, but it did cost extra. Last night, I observed that area is now much more illuminated, but was never used. Some really good looking girls back then. Post Covid era is not nearly as good but expect Dimples to be one of the places to really improve.

Nautica. It's the last joint on P. Burgos street before reaching Kalayaan Ave. There is a doorman, and after you enter that front door you will see a flimsy door on your left. I had a beer and got 1 drink for a girl, then left very soon for the upstairs club.

To get there without ever entering the first club, you would just go straight thru this empty assembly area where the girls eat their pancit and balut to a staircase. Maybe the downstairs club is Nautica, and upstairs is Lollipop, but not sure. I ended up with one dancer in the back seats to do the nxxxy. Great mouth, and great pussy. Can take them upstairs for privacy, but I preferred the back seats. I get a little crazy sometimes in these little clubs. Her co-workers sort of stood in front of us to cover from the strict mamasan. The younger waitress did not mind seeing a little of our activities. Just be careful if the mamasan is nearby. So, at least it seems, this last place is for doing the deed.Thank you so much for this report, just my opinion that this belongs also in the Makati thread. Cheers.

[Sammon]

I just got back from a 6 day trip in Manila. I stayed at the New Coast Hotel which is 2 blocks from LA Club. What a wonderful hotel! Highly recommended. I got the free breakfast options, and the breakfast was amazing, pool Amazing. Everything top notch. For about $60 a night. Incredible deal. I found myself going back to the Club most nights. I have to say that the club does a lot of pressure sales, is the negative, but it's a fun place to be. The waitress there are their to make commission on you while you try and talk to the freelancers. So if you try to look at it like that, then those ladies need some of your dollars too. Most every night, the CLUB was packed. Thu-Fri-Sat the upstairs was open with a live DJ. I went upstairs on a THU and it didn't take long for the ladies to stop by. The time it took me to get to know two of the ladies was about an hour and my bill to the club was about 3,000 peso which is about $60, this after buying drinks for me, the two ladies and the waitress wanted me to buy rounds for them. So be careful you don't get roped in too deep with all the pressure sales from the wait staff. You just got to be strong and say no. Freelance prices ranged from 2000-5000 quoted out loud sitting at the table, girls looks hot there and a lot of fun. The smoke was HEAVY there, alot of smoking and you will smell like smoke when you leave. I was reading in another thread, and I did not see hardly any freelancer hanging around the Robinson Mall, they all seemed to be at the Club. Since the club is open 24/7, I dunno why you would not just go to the club, I went there at 10 am one day and had two drinks and played pool, and there was STILL freelancers in that place at 10 AM, like maybe 10 of them. At night time, there was too many to count. Maybe like 100-150 roaming around to about 20-25 guys. You have crazy ODDS. My recommendation, is don't sit there and let them come to you, that wastes time, walk the room and ask them to come sit with you so you get what you want without wasting time.How did you get $60 per night with free breakfast at New Coast Hotel. Usually it is around $100. I have stayed there many times.

You say LA club. It was LA cafe before. Have they changed the name?

[WestCoast1]

How did you get $60 per night with free breakfast at New Coast Hotel. Usually it is around $100. I have stayed there many times.

You say LA club. It was LA cafe before. Have they changed the name?Good question. Sometimes we abbreviate it LAC, and he maybe misconstrued that as "Club".

New Coast, see pic for price, $74/ night on Agoda.

[Sammon]

Good question. Sometimes we abbreviate it LAC, and he maybe misconstrued that as "Club".

New Coast, see pic for price, $74/ night on Agoda.Agoda usually does not include taxes and other small charges. Generally I have gotten anywhere from $85 to $120. With breakfast more expensive not free with room. However king room I got comparable to 5 star. They have turn down service as well. Since it is a casino hotel nobody checks coming and goings although I suspect they have cameras everywhere.

After all night fun nothing beats McDonald's big breakfast down the street.

Usually I stay with my online contact girls but have gone to LA Cafe to just check out the scene but not take anybody.

[Goferring]

Agoda usually does not include taxes and other small charges. Check your user settings. Agoda has settings to change default displayed pricing between base price per night, total price per night, total price per stay etc. There are also settings to automatically include any credits you may have accrued.

Despite all this I'd agree that it's common to actually pay a couple of dollars more than advertised especially if you are not paying in the host currency or USD.

Cheers. G.

[WestCoast1]

Check your user settings. Agoda has settings to change default displayed pricing between base price per night, total price per night, total price per stay etc. There are also settings to automatically include any credits you may have accrued.Good pro tip.

As an aside, as there is not much happening on the Phils thread today. All of my NCR regulars are still in the same boat. The pandemic caused the foreigners to run away. Only one of my regulars had an NCR expat who lives there as a client. After the pandemic started he mostly dropped her as a regular, taking her only every few months (over-supply issue I would guess). All of my regulars were previously involved in the Burgos biz, and all rued the disappearance of the 2-week warriors. Apparently the re-opening has not see the large influx of the warriors. The regulars' overseas sponsors stopped sending remit long ago.

Gents: Dust off your passports.

[Goferring]

....All of my regulars were previously involved in the Burgos biz, and all rued the disappearance of the 2-week warriors. Apparently the re-opening has not see the large influx of the warriors. The regulars' overseas sponsors stopped sending remit long ago.

Gents: Dust off your passports.I think this happened in many markets. I've just returned from Bali, Indonesia, arriving on one of the first approved tourist planes. The place was devoid of newbie tourists, mostly domestic and mixed couples returning home ie very few of the usual cashed up gullible tourists that the girls rely on. However, many girls from other regions had arrived expecting plane loads of customers who never came. Most ran out of time and / or money and returned home after a couple of weeks. During those weeks it was definitely a buyer's market.

Enjoy. G.

[Transporter]

Although prices has stayed the same pre / post pandemic, only a select few are still getting those rates (they seem to be surviving on their regulars). It is a buyers market, and you can offer some outrageous rates. It pretty much becomes how low can I go without feeling the guilt of taking advantage of the situation.

[WestCoast1]

However, many girls from other regions had arrived expecting plane loads of customers who never came. Most ran out of time and / or money and returned home after a couple of weeks. During those weeks it was definitely a buyer's market.Its a shame that you had to put up with that (LBFM's throwing their panties at you). I think I might have spotted you at the airport recently: The fella with the "cat-ate-the-canary" grin?

[Papae Noel]

LaLake,

I agree with you that the Makati (Burgos St) report should be in the Makati section. Don't know if it is possible to move the report.

[Goferring]

Its a shame that you had to put up with that (LBFM's throwing their panties at you). I think I might have spotted you at the airport recently: The fella with the "cat-ate-the-canary" grin?It's a tough life but someone had to do it. 😜.


Well when it rains, it pours.

[Joe Boy]

Hi,

Not a report as I was there very late, but lots of clearly available ladies and LB'S (prettiest lady was the LB) on the casino floor near the entrance. I was with a group, so not able to comment on prices, but they were very available. Waitresses in the hotel were very pale, thin and pretty. I suspect they might be available as well. I haven't been to casinos here before. I assume this is the same in all of them. True?

Considering this is at a casino, I suspect the rates are higher than a place like LA Cafe in Ermita.

[Expat American]

In Manila for two nights. I have my dating site girl so didn't pick anyone up but Sat night after fucking my girl I left her in the room and went to explore LA Cafe. I'm staying in the Sheraton so its a 5 min walk to LA. On Sat night at 10 pm the place was packed. Upstairs band was playing, no cover charge. Was approached by a very cute 25 yo and I bought her a drink and flirted but since I had just unloaded, she couldn't tempt me enough. Place got even more packed later at night. Selection of girls seemed decent, there were many who ID consider fucking. I didn't negotiate any pricing so don't know what to going rate is.

Also around my hotel are a lot of "Lounges" and "show clubs" which have a lot of girls inside. I think its mostly drinks and company and maybe take out but I'm not sure. Maybe someone here knows?

[JusRide]

In Manila for two nights. I have my dating site girl so didn't pick anyone up but Sat night after fucking my girl I left her in the room and went to explore LA Cafe. I'm staying in the Sheraton so its a 5 min walk to LA. On Sat night at 10 pm the place was packed. Upstairs band was playing, no cover charge. Was approached by a very cute 25 yo and I bought her a drink and flirted but since I had just unloaded, she couldn't tempt me enough. Place got even more packed later at night. Selection of girls seemed decent, there were many who ID consider fucking. I didn't negotiate any pricing so don't know what to going rate is.

Also around my hotel are a lot of "Lounges" and "show clubs" which have a lot of girls inside. I think its mostly drinks and company and maybe take out but I'm not sure. Maybe someone here knows?Did it reopen at the same location? A girl that used to work there said it closed after struggling for months during the pandemic. I lost contact with her about 6 months ago.

[Docwiltro]

In Manila for two nights. I have my dating site girl so didn't pick anyone up but Sat night after fucking my girl I left her in the room and went to explore LA Cafe. I'm staying in the Sheraton so its a 5 min walk to LA. What's the condition of the Sheraton at the former location of the old venerable Pan Pacific? I saw it several years ago, and it was showing its age. Back in the day between the Pan Pacific and the Hyatt, you couldn't go wrong for upscale accommodations. BTW, I do between the walk is a tad longer than 5 minutes to LAC from there, more like 10 to 12 minutes at best depending on how many homeless folks you had to step around on either del Pilar or Mabini.

[Expat American]

What's the condition of the Sheraton at the former location of the old venerable Pan Pacific? I saw it several years ago, and it was showing its age. Back in the day between the Pan Pacific and the Hyatt, you couldn't go wrong for upscale accommodations. BTW, I do between the walk is a tad longer than 5 minutes to LAC from there, more like 10 to 12 minutes at best depending on how many homeless folks you had to step around on either del Pilar or Mabini.Its okay. Yes it shows its age and pool is rather basic. But I'm a Marriott guy so choose it when possible. Room was nice but window was tiny. It was fine for 2 nights which is all I stayed there for. I wouldn't stay for longer.

[Papae Noel]

I would recommend if you want to be away from Makati. For my experience, I never thought the taxi ride to Makati (Greenbelt or P. Burgos) was long, but it was always well into the evening the 2 times I went there and traffic was very light. As for Malate, and the area near the Sheraton, I never went to any of the karaoke bars, or to L. A. Cafe. On the same trip, I also stayed at the Peninsula. I prefer the Sheraton.

I used some of my Suite upgrade certificates, and was very pleased with my accomodation. Homeless in Malate? - yes, there are a few here and there. Absolutely not an issue.

Never used the gym at the hotel, but definitely enjoyed the pool. I thought it was quite nice.

[NewImage]

Apologies but I'm not the drink til 12 pm take girl home fuck till 2 wake up about 12, fuck some more, eat and watch TV, get ready to repeat and do it all again type guy. In my hometown its up by 7 at least off to work 9-5, come home eat relax and crash.

Now its no good saying when I'm on holiday I can relax and sleep in etc. It just don't work. Body clock goes get up at 7! Also I have a very active job so both physical (of a different kind) and mental stimulation is needed.

Now I can spend 1/2 hrs on social media planning my liasons but what to do from post bfast to pre dinner is the question esp in Manila with its wonderful traffic + other big Asian cities with same infrastraucture problems.

Beach side locations seem better as can frolick in the water at least some time. I haven't got that type of job to take work with me.

What do you guys do in the non fucking timeslots? Any ideas. Esp in Manila. I tend to travel by myself which I know doesn't help.

[Goferring]

What do you guys do in the non fucking timeslots? Any ideas. Esp in Manila. I tend to travel by myself which I know doesn't help.Just do what you would normally do during a non mongering holiday in your off time. That may or may not be readily available in Manila. If not, go where it is. There are many, many other things to do in the PI and the internet now delivers girls to areas away from the traditional supply sites.

If agree that there would be little worse than spending 24/7 on Walking Street or Burgos for weeks on end. That's why I go to the provinces as well and do other activities that interest me (quite often with a girl in tow).

Enjoy. G.

[AsianPursuits]

Just do what you would normally do during a non mongering holiday in your off time. That may or may not be readily available in Manila. If not, go where it is. There are many, many other things to do in the PI and the internet now delivers girls to areas away from the traditional supply sites.

If agree that there would be little worse than spending 24/7 on Walking Street or Burgos for weeks on end. That's why I go to the provinces as well and do other activities that interest me (quite often with a girl in tow).

Enjoy. G.Book yourself a day trip to Corregidor Island, visit Manila Museum, explore Intramuros, live the resort life, day trip to Tagatay, Taal volcano, Laguna, retrace the Bataan death March, visit a surf beach. Find some local foreigners whom have similar interest to you.

[WilBarry]

Anyone have experience hooking up with these types? How'd you do it? Story time please.

[Sky Jump]

Hello everyone,

I am currently in Turkey and looking at grabbing a flight east. I am familiar with both Thailand and Pi seen and wondering from someone with boots on the ground which one you would recommend at the moment?

Must admit I am a bit spoiled after living in Colombia for 6 months over the winter but it's all condoms there so looking for el natural change. I use to like Puerto Galara south of Manila but not sure what is happing at the moment.

Cheers.

Sky.

[Goferring]

Must admit I am a bit spoiled after living in Colombia for 6 months over the winter but it's all condoms there so looking for el natural change. I use to like Puerto Galara south of Manila but not sure what is happing at the moment.

Cheers.

Sky.PI will win any BB comparison. You will have to bring a drawing of a condom to show the girls so that they know what you are talking about. 😁.

When were you last in Sabang? It was a great place but unfortunately it's gone waaaay downhill in the last couple of years. Think 7 k for a rushed ST. Do a search to bring up some recent reviews and consider Subic as an alternative.

Cheers. G.

[Goferring]

Anyone have experience hooking up with these types? How'd you do it? Story time please.I would have thought that you had it figured out after 5 years. 😁.


Does anybody have any stories on taking back to your room hotel workers at the front desk or restaurants etc?Seriously, the biggest threat esp to hotel staff is getting them fired. Best case is take them to a 3rd party AirBnB condo if they do consent. A condo as they will be scared of bumping into friends who work at other hotels. Note that pretty ones get hit upon all day every day so it's not unusual for them to have guys take them and their friends out for a nights partying with no return on investment at all.

Sales girls, students etc are just regular girls so the normal rules apply.

Enjoy. G.

[Sammon]

Casino dealer / waitress, hotel front desk, students near university Anyone have experience hooking up with these types? How'd you do it? Story time please.Pretty casino dealer gets lots of high end gamblers for who money is no object. Most are on contract jobs with strict do and don't. They will loose their job if they go to the casino hotel room and get caught.

Waitresses can and will go with you if they like you. She will slip a paper with her number. I have gotten some numbers in Cebu. But these girls work 12 hour shifts and pretty tired by the time they come to your room. So are the sales girls in the mall.

Most young hotel receptionists are on training which they work for free as part of their hospitality course. I have sponsored couple who did that. They will loose their job and bad name if they did that.

Room cleaning girls are game if they think they can get away wit but they are told to keep the door open while they clean. They can be dated outside.

Students can be freelancers but mostly they do not old men unless you chat with them and in the room anything goes. They will not go outside together unless they like you. Even then they loose face with their friends and school mates. In Philippines irrespective of how old they are they always say they are studying.

IMHO in Philippines I exclusively get girls from dating sites. Some are seasoned but quite a few are just country girls. Sweet nonetheless.

Not well experienced. I take pride in teaching LOL.

[Mahaba]

You could be literally fucking them over. The minimum wage is $8 dollars US per day and those jobs are hard to get. If they get caught they are fired. Just make a date for a beer somewhere, perhaps a bit of bar hopping, then off to an alternative location (Not the hotel where she works). If she is not a stunner it may not be worth the trouble.

As for sales girls, etc. Many are on the game and can be found through Facebook friends, etc. Been there. Done That.


I would have thought that you had it figured out after 5 years. 😁.

Seriously, the biggest threat esp to hotel staff is getting them fired. Best case is take them to a 3rd party AirBnB condo if they do consent. A condo as they will be scared of bumping into friends who work at other hotels. Note that pretty ones get hit upon all day every day so it's not unusual for them to have guys take them and their friends out for a nights partying with no return on investment at all.

Sales girls, students etc are just regular girls so the normal rules apply.

Enjoy. G.

[The Rose]

What do you guys do in the non fucking timeslots? Any ideas. Esp in Manila. I tend to travel by myself which I know doesn't help.I am constantly on the prowl. Trolling for new prospects. Museums, beaches, geographic wonders are for another time zone. Nothing else attracts me in the country other than sexual encounters. When in Rome do as the Romans do and in the stifling air of Manila the Manilans go "malling" which means getting into an aircon mall and hanging out. So with nothing to do in Manila I go malling in the hope of making a connection that could lead to my sole purpose for being in the country: getting my end wet.

Nurse a Starbuck coffee, see a movie, strike up conversations. Find a comfortable chair to hang. Be genuine. Be patient See what clicks. Do a different mall everyday.

[Mahaba]

Thats exactly what I did a couple of weeks ago in Angeles City. Saw Top Gun, had excellent Ramen. I would have handed out "dick for hire" business cards (Not the actual text), but everyone had masks on and I like to see what's below the eyes first.


I am constantly on the prowl. Trolling for new prospects. Museums, beaches, geographic wonders are for another time zone. Nothing else attracts me in the country other than sexual encounters. When in Rome do as the Romans do and in the stifling air of Manila the Manilans go "malling" which means getting into an aircon mall and hanging out. So with nothing to do in Manila I go malling in the hope of making a connection that could lead to my sole purpose for being in the country: getting my end wet.

Nurse a Starbuck coffee, see a movie, strike up conversations. Find a comfortable chair to hang. Be genuine. Be patient See what clicks. Do a different mall everyday.

[Michi]

Think the scene has changed in ATC mall Or could be as it was Easter Sunday but more alot of couples, families, or groups of girls and boys running around. Couldn't really take note of any girls walking around on their own looking bored and wanting company. As for the attractivess, well perhaps I'm picky, but slim and boobsy was definitely not visible. Thick and bigger were more the flock (maybe an effect of the pandemic).

Spent a good 3 hours checking out the area and visiting the nooks and crannies of the Mall. Agreed the cinema area looks like a nice play to watch a movie. There's a huge GameZone if ones company wants to be distracted or you want to make a friendly bet with your girl of loser has to provide oral pleasure later.

Any more advice on the Alabang Muntinlupa area will be appreciated. Will provide updates on the scene here when I can check things out and report.

GX.Hi,

I lived in Alabang the last few years. ATC is the place where the rich people from Alabang hang out. So if you see a pretty girl there, she probably has 10 x the wealth that you command.

Only place to go there to maybe get lucky is Players on the first floor. A foreigner hang out where some Filipina go to meet one.

Otherwise: Silverado in a side street a little north might work out.

Mike.

[AsianPursuits]

Anyone have experience hooking up with these types? How'd you do it? Story time please.Just being in country will provide you with the opportunities for this.

Hotel staff are not going to date you on premises. You can ask but they get many offers. They will give you contact details.

In AC I got the number of my breakfast server. It came after a little flirting and I left a piece of paper with my number on the table for her to clean up. She text me on her next break. I arranged to meet her at Brettos on Clarkview, well away from the strip. I liked her, she was very religious. So religious that she would not use condoms.

Another time I a cute Phillies waitress would stay at my place, pickup / drop her to Phillies in her cute uniform. But initial contact on her was via a dating site.

Filipinas are more open and fun to banter with foreigners. I miss that friendly interaction.

[NewImage]

Hello everyone,
I am currently in Turkey and looking at grabbing a flight east. I am familiar with both Thailand and Pi seen and wondering from someone with boots on the ground which one you would recommend at the moment?
Must admit I am a bit spoiled after living in Colombia for 6 months over the winter but it's all condoms there so looking for el natural change. I use to like Puerto Galara south of Manila but not sure what is happing at the moment.
Cheers.
Sky.Went PG for fifth and last time pre covid 2020. Was basically rejected because I wasn't Asian with fat wallets, small penis and 10 sec sex session. With European, American and Australian men the girls have to work too hard.

Have been told umpteen stories of group of Asian guys going to bars early, pick out best girls, go to dinner with them, get drunk, go home and fall asleep or 10 sec sex session, wake up next morning, take them to breakfast, pay them and give them a tip.

You can't compete with that.

[Steve Nash]

Hi,

I lived in Alabang the last few years. ATC is the place where the rich people from Alabang hang out. So if you see a pretty girl there, she probably has 10 x the wealth that you command.

Only place to go there to maybe get lucky is Players on the first floor. A foreigner hang out where some Filipina go to meet one.

Otherwise: Silverado in a side street a little north might work out.

Mike.Yeah I agree, the 2 girls I dated 6-7 years ago, lived in Alabang and both had nice cars, they will pick me up in Mall of Asia to go to ATC and hangout there, I met them on different trips I think one in 2015 and the other one in 2016, like I said before lots of hotties in that mall.

I never visit their houses so I'm not sure how much money they have, they were mysterious and kept their life private, I suggested afew times to go to her place and she kept making excuses, both will come to my condo in Pasay for some cuddling and chilling, the one who worked in Makati (a good job in a big company) will go to her work in the morning from my condo, she was the one giving me excuses and will drop me in ATC while she went to her house to get her clothes. The other one will go home late at night almost morning, she was a student and her dad live abroad, I think Singapore.

[JackLad100]

Hey Guys,

I haven't yet been into a KTV bar.

But am planning a session, so want to enjoy all it has to offer.

I see the girls have numbers:

- so that does that mean you can discuss with the mamasan, to take out?

- is there a "barfine" system?

Just wanting to know how it works.

Many Thanks, In Advance.

[WeKilledKenny]

Pretty casino dealer gets lots of high end gamblers for who money is no object. Most are on contract jobs with strict do and don't. They will loose their job if they go to the casino hotel room and get caught.

Waitresses can and will go with you if they like you. She will slip a paper with her number. I have gotten some numbers in Cebu. But these girls work 12 hour shifts and pretty tired by the time they come to your room. So are the sales girls in the mall.

Most young hotel receptionists are on training which they work for free as part of their hospitality course. I have sponsored couple who did that. They will loose their job and bad name if they did that.

Room cleaning girls are game if they think they can get away wit but they are told to keep the door open while they clean. They can be dated outside.

Students can be freelancers but mostly they do not old men unless you chat with them and in the room anything goes. They will not go outside together unless they like you. Even then they loose face with their friends and school mates. In Philippines irrespective of how old they are they always say they are studying.

IMHO in Philippines I exclusively get girls from dating sites. Some are seasoned but quite a few are just country girls. Sweet nonetheless.

Not well experienced. I take pride in teaching LOL.I definitely recommend going the AirBnB route or finding discrete hotels. Wingman banged a Cebuana student but she got recognized at the hotel somehow. Then came the drama. Personally, I stay at a hotel for a night or two while scouring for a discrete AirBnB for the remainder of my stay. Easy to bang receptionists this way.

[Goferring]

Hey Guys,

I haven't yet been into a KTV bar.

But am planning a session, so want to enjoy all it has to offer.

I see the girls have numbers:

- so that does that mean you can discuss with the mamasan, to take out?

- is there a "barfine" system?

Just wanting to know how it works.

Many Thanks, In Advance.KTVs are mainly designed for onsite action where a group of friends / businessmen can entertain and impress each other. Girls are generally higher end looks wise. Prices for drinks, girls time, extras etc can be eye watering.

Some do offer takeout but there are often conditions attached (work until a certain time etc) and fees will need to compensate everybody for the remaining night's lost income.

If you find a girl you like, a better option might be to get her number and meet outside work hours. Note that this will likely require a "test run" at work first.

Enjoy. G.

[MrClen]

KTVs are mainly designed for onsite action where a group of friends / businessmen can entertain and impress each other. Girls are generally higher end looks wise. Prices for drinks, girls time, extras etc can be eye watering.

Some do offer takeout but there are often conditions attached (work until a certain time etc) and fees will need to compensate everybody for the remaining night's lost income.

If you find a girl you like, a better option might be to get her number and meet outside work hours. Note that this will likely require a "test run" at work first.

Enjoy. G.While I don't know how it works there, I have been to many KTV's in China and Cambodia. In all cases (unless you go to a family one), you can ask the mama to separate the ones who may be willing to go out. Now that doesn't mean that she will, but at least you eliminate the ones who will not (although I have had a couple who would not go then changed their mind later). One thing to note is that if the girl does not like you she does not have to go. In China the way it works is that you pay for the room, they bring drinks and snacks (keep an eye on that), then the girl will cost to sit with you. If she decides not to go with you, you must pay her for the sitting time that can be almost all night if you want, but normally it's a fixed fee. Then if she wants to go with you there is a short time fee or a long time fee, long time being all night. I am over 80 years old and never had a girl decide not to go. Yes I have some that were better than others and couple real disappointments, but usually works out pretty well. In general, be polite, be fun, don't be overly aggressive, play the games (dice, etc and you really can't go wrong. When the girls are brought in for picking, I never try to pick the most beautiful but will try to pick one or two that look like fun!

[Dashing Don]

Does anyone know if EDSA complex reopened?

[Ghost D]

Does anyone know if EDSA complex reopened?As far as I am aware this is closed for good, unless anyone else has better knowledge?

Even their facebook page hasn't had an update in 2 years;.

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=158411757619361

I seem to recall a local news story some time ago that the building was going to be re-purposed, but was unable to find that story when I went looking for it.

It was an interesting complex that offered a somewhat different experience than P. Burgos or LA Cafe, so choice was good. I guess it will take a few more years of hopefully improved stability before we see more options like this again.

[Dashing Don]

Just back from two weeks in the Phils. Some thoughts and commentary.

I started in Cebu. Four days at Quest and then to the Seda. The Quest wifi frequently didn't work and the tv never worked so I moved to the Seda, formally the Marriott.

Cebu is a dating site town. I had lots of matches and chats etc and the distances were short but there seemed to be a larger percentage of girls 'looking for serious' than normal. This made for heavy work. On the second day however, I met a 21 yo, 92 lb beauty and she stayed for a few days. Beautiful and accommodating. But I'm a short timer at heart.

Tiring of endless texting I flew to Angeles. $220 with PAL! Four nights at ABC on Expedia was about $140 a night. I ventured into a few bars but was turned off by the low class demeanor of the bargirls with their forced good time attitude and the endless pressure to choose. It had been so long since I had been in the bar scene that I forgot what turned me off about it. Actually, there is a solution. If the stage is a little bit distant from from the punters, this allows you to choose without the constant eye contact of the girls. Gold and Lollipop were reasonable options for me, however, I was thinking of the little honey in Cebu and I flew her up for a few days which was great.

Day game: Actively searching for attractive girls on the street. I like to engage in this as a nice part of the combo of hookers and dating site girls. It means the pot is always boiling. There's always possibilities. I find the the petite Filipinas with their demure ways very attractive as I walk the streets of Makati and over the years have had some unforgettable experiences. I wouldn't solely concentrate on this because when you have the urge you can't wait and need some pro to help out, but it can be very sweet when it pays off.

Problem: Masks. Makati is still relatively empty. I think there's still a mask mandate in the NCR. And the girls that are around are masked. So you can't see their faces and therefore what's the point.

Nice trip but definitely not the equal of trips in years before the pandemic.

[Issaquah]

As far as I am aware this is closed for good, unless anyone else has better knowledge?

Even their facebook page hasn't had an update in 2 years;.

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=158411757619361

I seem to recall a local news story some time ago that the building was going to be re-purposed, but was unable to find that story when I went looking for it.

It was an interesting complex that offered a somewhat different experience than P. Burgos or LA Cafe, so choice was good. I guess it will take a few more years of hopefully improved stability before we see more options like this again.It is permanently closed down, the property has been purchased and is being developed. I was there in May and drove by in a taxi. The Taxi drivers will try and take you to the "NEW EDSA" but it's nothing like EDSA and is very expensive.

[JimThom]

It is permanently closed down, the property has been purchased and is being developed. I was there in May and drove by in a taxi. The Taxi drivers will try and take you to the "NEW EDSA" but it's nothing like EDSA and is very expensive.Speaking of sad closures, another one that I couldn't find anything out about on this page (but maybe I didn't use the search function as well as I could have since I didn't search other Philippine related forums) and it took an actual trip there to find out that it is indeed closed and the building seemingly set for demolition. And that is Air Force One / flight 168.

Really sucks. That was just the best place over the years. I always got surly and crappy service at the Quezon places (Kremlin, etc.). Flight 168 was the one place with always good looking girls and always nice.

I like good in-call places the best. No fooling around with lady drinks at bars. No fooling around with questionable street walkers. No walk of shame at your accommodation. No looks from the staff after calling a massage girl to your Airbnb. No screwing around with often unproductive interactions on dating sites (though dating sites certainly produce, it's just that it takes a little bit of work). No passing furtive notes to waitresses. You just get in there, have a great experience, and you are ready to face the rest of your free time with a smile on your face until next time you go back.

Sadly it looks like the end of an era. Really sucks.

[Big Kahuna]

It is permanently closed down, the property has been purchased and is being developed. I was there in May and drove by in a taxi. The Taxi drivers will try and take you to the "NEW EDSA" but it's nothing like EDSA and is very expensive.Where is the NEW EDSA?

[Issaquah]

Where is the NEW EDSA?There is no new Edsa. The place they take you to is a few minutes ride by taxi so it's in the same general area. There are a few clubs close to each other (not connected in any way) however, once they get you in the door they hit you with a cover charge, I don't remember the exact amount but it was around 1,500 php I think? There were some shows on the stage and it was a Korean crowd. I was the only Caucasian in any of those locations. Nothing like EDSA.

[Muttley81]

There is no new Edsa. The place they take you to is a few minutes ride by taxi so it's in the same general area. There are a few clubs close to each other (not connected in any way) however, once they get you in the door they hit you with a cover charge, I don't remember the exact amount but it was around 1,500 php I think? There were some shows on the stage and it was a Korean crowd. I was the only Caucasian in any of those locations. Nothing like EDSA.I went to one of these a few years ago. To be fair they were very clear about the cover charge when entering, we were going in at like 3:00 am after we left Edsa on a night out. It was 1500 PHP each, guys I was with were smashed. Think we left around 5:00 am, bill was not too surprising, north of 10 k, but I did argue about some of things that had been added. 2400 PHP for three small tubes of Pringles, that we didn't even eat, sticks in my memory. They did take these off bill and I didn't feel threatened arguing it.

Girls that sat with us were nice enough and they were happy to show everything, shows were ok, not on scale of those in Amsterdam or anything but ok. Totally agreed, not like a Gogo, but something interesting to do once (or twice if you find someone you really like).

[BaboyDave]

I went to one of these a few years ago. To be fair they were very clear about the cover charge when entering, we were going in at like 3:00 am after we left Edsa on a night out. It was 1500 PHP each, guys I was with were smashed. Think we left around 5:00 am, bill was not too surprising, north of 10 k, but I did argue about some of things that had been added. 2400 PHP for three small tubes of Pringles, that we didn't even eat, sticks in my memory. They did take these off bill and I didn't feel threatened arguing it.

Girls that sat with us were nice enough and they were happy to show everything, shows were ok, not on scale of those in Amsterdam or anything but ok. Totally agreed, not like a Gogo, but something interesting to do once (or twice if you find someone you really like).I haven't been on the ground since 2019, however judging by the information provided these sound like girly bars on Roxas blvd. There along the street catering mostly to locals and Koreans / Japanese.

They normally have girls on stage, some of which dance erotic dances half naked, some of which just dance fully clothed, you can call for a lineup and have a girl sit with you for which you pay for a certain amount of time. They also have private "KTV" rooms where the guys will put together a couple of couches for you to fuck the girl you selected. Take out is also an option however I remember it being less common and more expensive than Burgos.

In any case it's nice for a change of scene from EDSA (rip) and Burgos but much shadier and more expensive.

I'll be back after more than 3 years in 10 days. Pretty excited to report my findings.

Happy punting.

[Big Kahuna]

There is no new Edsa. The place they take you to is a few minutes ride by taxi so it's in the same general area. There are a few clubs close to each other (not connected in any way) however, once they get you in the door they hit you with a cover charge, I don't remember the exact amount but it was around 1,500 php I think? There were some shows on the stage and it was a Korean crowd. I was the only Caucasian in any of those locations. Nothing like EDSA.Sounds like the old clubs along Roxas down by Bacalaran / Pasay.

[Muttley81]

One I went in was Titan Z which is in that area, but this was a fair while ago. Plenty of reviews on Google stating people feel they'd been ripped off. Taxi driver took us there from Edsa when colleague asked him to take us somewhere fun once that had closed, driver was obviously on a huge commission as he offered to wait for us.

[LoveEastAsia]

Hello everybody.

What is the regular price for a shortime with a girl from la café?

I paid 3000 php for 1 hour at my hotel room. She told me she will stay 3 hours but she left at 1 am.

Thanks.

[GDreams]

Hello everybody.

What is the regular price for a shortime with a girl from la caf?

I paid 3000 php for 1 hour at my hotel room. She told me she will stay 3 hours but she left at 1 am.

Thanks.Firstly negotiate how many shots you want. Secondly it depends on you and the girl. I've never taken a girl from LA cafe. I usually drop in there when in Malate but I don't like the vibe and from my perspective its full of uglies on the old side. I asked one young and pretty and she wanted 6000 peso and that was 3 years ago I knocked her back, went back to the hotel got a girl on Wechat for 3000 for 2 shots to find she had just turned up at LA cafe and I waited 30 min for her to get to me. For girls off dating sites I pay 3000 to 5000 for 2 shots or overnight. I pay 2500 if over about 24. I now have some regulars that if I cannot get a deal I like I have a fallback but its always interesting to try some new.

[WestCoast1]

What is the regular price for a shortime with a girl from la caf?

I paid 3000 php for 1 hour at my hotel room. She told me she will stay 3 hours but she left at 1 am.That does not explain how long she was with you.

Also you contradicted yourself. You paid for one hour, but she said she will stay for 3 hours? Which is it (can't be both). How long did she stay (you said what time she left, but you didn't say what time she arrived)?

I can't say what is the regular price, as prices were relatively stable before pandemic (about 1500 or 2000 for ST). The bar closed for 1 year at the start of pandemic. At the re-opening, it was a restaurant only. Later it went back to its nawty ways, and I don't know if there is currently a 'regular price' at this time. Paying p3000 for 1 hour is just fine, and paying p1000 for 1 hour is just fine.

WC.

[Locamotive]

That does not explain how long she was with you.

Also you contradicted yourself. You paid for one hour, but she said she will stay for 3 hours? Which is it (can't be both). How long did she stay (you said what time she left, but you didn't say what time she arrived)?

I can't say what is the regular price, as prices were relatively stable before pandemic (about 1500 or 2000 for ST). The bar closed for 1 year at the start of pandemic. At the re-opening, it was a restaurant only. Later it went back to its nawty ways, and I don't know if there is currently a 'regular price' at this time. Paying p3000 for 1 hour is just fine, and paying p1000 for 1 hour is just fine.

WC.On my previous visit in April I noticed similar but also more business like. Its why I didn't report, a dud trip except for two regulars, both GFE as usual. I mostly did Burgos which may be the issue as I think girls there now may be all business. I was quoted 4 or 5 k how long I stay up to you. Price did not seem to vary. While I usually stay away from 9 or 10's although those were very few, these girls were average. Flirt in bar some drinks then back to room. Shower. Do the deed she washes off gets back in bed picks up phone. None refused me when more action needed and seemed into it during the act but everytime, washes off, back in bed picks up phone. No GFE, no cuddle, no affection. No nothing. This happened 6 or 7 times except for the regulars who were great. I finally gave up and just stuck with the regulars.

Prior to COVID bars opened at 3 or 4 pm. Go in for happy hour cheap beer and bar fine. Girls seemed to flirt more then and were happier and almost all barfines ST or long were usually GFE.

Maybe its just me but it does not seem the same post COVID or I just had really bad luck.

[MohdirFan82]

In LA cafe normal rate of FL is from 3000 to 5000 (ST) that's what they start with.

Now when they talk about their rate I always mark my limit to 1500-2000 depend how hot the girl is.

Bargain for the lowest and tell her depends on her service, you might tip.

99% or time almost all of them agree to go with me for 1500-2000 (ST).

100% of them want to leave after ST unless you are Tom cruise. And I go back to LA cafe and look for next.

My goal is to have as much of fun with as many of girls.


Hello everybody.

What is the regular price for a shortime with a girl from la caf?

I paid 3000 php for 1 hour at my hotel room. She told me she will stay 3 hours but she left at 1 am.

Thanks.

[Dg8787]

Hello everybody.

What is the regular price for a shortime with a girl from la caf?

I paid 3000 php for 1 hour at my hotel room. She told me she will stay 3 hours but she left at 1 am.

Thanks.3 hours goes both ways. Sometimes after one hour I want the girl to go instead of staying the full 3 hours. A few times the girls got upset as they didn't want to leave so soon.

I have learned some want to leave before 2 am because where they live the gates are locked then. If locked then they have to wait until 6 am for unlocking of the gate. Others don't want to leave betweeen 2 am and 6 am because of their unsafe neighborhoods and most trikes might not go there during these hours.

[KingsMan89]

I'll be travelling soon for work and will have a 12 hour layover in Manila.

What is the fastest way to get a girl? Where and how much is the average price?

Thanks in advance.

[Gen X Baer]

I'll be travelling soon for work and will have a 12 hour layover in Manila.
What is the fastest way to get a girl? Where and how much is the average price?
Thanks in advance.I recall you in the seoul thread. First, make sure you have all the documents you need to be able to monger outside the airport. You can read the forums and find information.

Depending on the time you arrive, I would think if night your best bet is head to LA Cafe or Makati burgos street and visit the bars there to barfine a girl there. Prices and info are all on the thread. Just read have fun!

Don't forget to share a report.

[WestCoast1]

I'll be travelling soon for work and will have a 12 hour layover in Manila.

What is the fastest way to get a girl? Where and how much is the average price?GXB is right. Choose one of these areas (not both): Malate, or Makati.

If Malate, make an advance reservation at Sogo Mabini St, for about $30-$40 US dollars. Taxi there and drop your luggage. Taxi (or walk if feeling brave) to LA Cafe, find a looker (don't dick around, just find a looker), tell her exactly what you want (ahem, be complete with your wants, don't leave anything out or to the imagination, including the time you want her to stay with you, and the number of pops), and ask her how much she wants for that. Do NOT dicker. Do not tell her that you are here on a short 12 hour layover. The girl will probably want p5-10 K. Given your short time range, don't worry about overpaying. Just say yes. Taxi with her back to Sogo, get your rocks off, turn her loose, and taxi back to NAIA.

If Makati, same procedure. Make an advance reservation at Sogo Makati Ave. Taxi there and drop your luggage. Walk around the corner to any of these bars: Lips, Dimples, V-8, Fyre, Coco Rock, or Nautica. Find a hottie. Tell her exactly what you want. Ask if she wants to go with you for that. Ask her how much she will want for a tip (probably p5-6 K). Do NOT dicker. Just say yes. Walk her down to the Sogo and have your way with her. Turn her loose and taxi back to NAIA. Barfine (p4 k) + her tip (p5 k) and drinks will run you about p10 k.


First, make sure you have all the documents you need to be able to monger outside the airport. You can read the forums and find information.You didn't say if you were coming into NAIA domestically or from another country.

If you are entering and transiting both internationally, you might not be able to leave the terminal. You can only depart the airport if you are passing thru Immigration to enter the country, I think. Gents is that correct?

[KingsMan89]

GXB is right. Choose one of these areas (not both): Malate, or Makati.

If Malate, make an advance reservation at Sogo Mabini St, for about $30-$40 US dollars. Taxi there and drop your luggage. Taxi (or walk if feeling brave) to LA Cafe, find a looker (don't dick around, just find a looker), tell her exactly what you want (ahem, be complete with your wants, don't leave anything out or to the imagination, including the time you want her to stay with you, and the number of pops), and ask her how much she wants for that. Do NOT dicker. Do not tell her that you are here on a short 12 hour layover. The girl will probably want p5-10 K. Given your short time range, don't worry about overpaying. Just say yes. Taxi with her back to Sogo, get your rocks off, turn her loose, and taxi back to NAIA.

If Makati, same procedure. Make an advance reservation at Sogo Makati Ave. Taxi there and drop your luggage. Walk around the corner to any of these bars: Lips, Dimples, V-8, Fyre, Coco Rock, or Nautica. Find a hottie. Tell her exactly what you want. Ask if she wants to go with you for that. Ask her how much she will want for a tip (probably p5-6 K). Do NOT dicker. Just say yes. Walk her down to the Sogo and have your way with her. Turn her loose and taxi back to NAIA. Barfine (p4 k) + her tip (p5 k) and drinks will run you about p10 k.

You didn't say if you were coming into NAIA domestically or from another country.

If you are entering and transiting both internationally, you might not be able to leave the terminal. You can only depart the airport if you are passing thru Immigration to enter the country, I think. Gents is that correct?Ill be travelling from the US.

[AsianPursuits]

I'll be travelling soon for work and will have a 12 hour layover in Manila.

What is the fastest way to get a girl? Where and how much is the average price?

Thanks in advance.I also have an upcoming layover of about 12 hours, arriving 6 pm, departing 10 am following morning. I am staying at St Giles about $50/ night. I will use the bars as WestCoast1 has suggested.

Have you travelled in Philippines before?

In addition to WestCoast1 very sensible solution and a little more upmarket. Book yourself a hotel nearer the airport and use one of the outcall websites to call in a girl.

[WestCoast1]

If you are entering and transiting both internationally, you might not be able to leave the terminal. You can only depart the airport if you are passing thru Immigration to enter the country, I think. Gents is that correct?


Ill be travelling from the US.Apology, I might not have been clear enough. Its not clear if you will have any domestic travel. Travel from the US to Manila is international. But your outbound trip from Manila, is that domestic? Are you flying from Manila to Cebu / Surigao / other (domestic)? That might require you to go thru arrivals Immigration at NAIA, then transit to your MNL-Cebu domestic flight (possibly a taxi ride to a different terminal). Once thru Immigration, you could depart the airport for your short-time, then return to the airport for your domestic flight to Cebu.

If your outbound trip from Manila is to a foreign country, then you will probably not pass thru arrivals Immigration; you would probably just head to your International flight gate, and you might not be able to depart the airport.

If you purchased your tickets online, you might already have received instructions on whether you are transiting (internationally only) or arriving (domestic flight), and how to collect your luggage. Alternately you can contact any travel agent in the US and give them your flight info, and they can tell you if you will be able to depart the airport and return. Or alternately, contact your airline in advance and ask them. Other gents weigh in.

[Koliflaver]

Hello everyone, got back from another eventful trip in Manila a week ago, but was unable to post as I was down with covid.

Since it was business trip, I could go out hunting only on one night. Played safe, went to LA Cafe. Had a few beers and some food (pretty good) and locked onto a rather shapely mature lady who claimed to be 30 (I would say closer to 40), but hey, I am 50, so she was still younger than me. She was very well dressed and suave, and spoke perfect English, with very little local accent. Wanted 3 K for a short time, I was in no mood to bargain as we were getting along quiet well. Back to the hotel, shower, and the action starts.

She was experienced and had quiet a few tricks up her sleeve, like milking my dick with her pussy muscles. All in all a nice experience. She ended up staying the night for 4 K.

Hope to be in Manila again towards the end of August.

[PedroMorales]

Hello everyone, got back from another eventful trip in Manila a week ago, but was unable to post as I was down with covid.Where did you pick up Covid? Manila, the plane? How bad was it? First time? Vaxxed?

[Bushes]

Interesting. I wrote a long reply post to add to WC but it didn't appear. Not sure if KM or AP will hit the ground in Manila first. My concern was hidden layovers were not a problem pre Covid. Nowadays, there might will be more controls. For arrivals, you need to meet the Philippines arrival requirements as well as your final destination arrival requirements. So I am not sure if you can get back into the terminal on the return. Some places still require a PCR test.

See the arrival story in the PI general thread.


I also have an upcoming layover of about 12 hours, arriving 6 pm, departing 10 am following morning. I am staying at St Giles about $50/ night. I will use the bars as WestCoast1 has suggested.

Have you travelled in Philippines before?

In addition to WestCoast1 very sensible solution and a little more upmarket. Book yourself a hotel nearer the airport and use one of the outcall websites to call in a girl.
GXB is right. Choose one of these areas (not both): Malate, or Makati.

If Malate, make an advance reservation at Sogo Mabini St, for about $30-$40 US dollars. Taxi there and drop your luggage. Taxi (or walk if feeling brave) to LA Cafe, find a looker (don't dick around, just find a looker), tell her exactly what you want (ahem, be complete with your wants, don't leave anything out or to the imagination, including the time you want her to stay with you, and the number of pops), and ask her how much she wants for that. Do NOT dicker. Do not tell her that you are here on a short 12 hour layover. The girl will probably want p5-10 K. Given your short time range, don't worry about overpaying. Just say yes. Taxi with her back to Sogo, get your rocks off, turn her loose, and taxi back to NAIA.
I'll be travelling soon for work and will have a 12 hour layover in Manila.

What is the fastest way to get a girl? Where and how much is the average price?

Thanks in advance.

[Koliflaver]

Where did you pick up Covid? Manila, the plane? How bad was it? First time? Vaxxed?I am fully vaxxed + boostered, so probably caught it there, because symptoms developed 2 days after I got back to Singapore. It was pretty bad in the sense that first 3-4 days I had a nasty dry cough. Then low fever and general aches and pains plus felt exhausted / tired all the time for about 10 days.

[Trevor2522]

She was experienced and had quiet a few tricks up her sleeve, like milking my dick with her pussy muscles. All in all a nice experience. She ended up staying the night for 4 K.Interesting. Seems to be a Malay-Indonesian / Proto-Malay (Philippine) trait. See my 'Goyang Madura' post under Indonesia. The sole justification for dallying with an older woman.

[Trevor2522]

I love it! So, a pilot was vaxxed in 2021, and boostered in February 2022. He has been fine, with no symptoms before or during Covid. I board a trans-pacific flight with him at the helm, and he is fine. You are saying that he might mentally or physically fall apart and die during that ocean crossing? Isn't there a better forum for Covid conspiracy stuff?My friend, if you take the trouble to check even the mainstream news online, several American and British pilots, who were mandated or coerced into getting the shots, have become sick or died -- some in-flight, or shortly afterwards. I post here because of my interest in the Philippines and their maniacal following of the Covid cult. At one point the former president (Duterte) was threatening vaccine refuseniks with jail cells! Does that sound like any kind of rational administration? Not to mention masking AND plastic shields in 95ºF heat.

[FuriousGeorge]

Bro, take off the tinfoil hat. All of those stories have been debunked. My best friend is an ER doctor and so is her husband and there are literally no covid patients in her ER that are vaccinated. Are they lying to me? Are they covering up some deep state conspiracy to control the population? Yes you can get it if you are vaccinated, because it has mutated. Actually the initial vaccines did prevent you (95%) from getting the alpha variant. Luckily they still keep you from dying. Shedding? That is dumbshittery at its highest level. Pseudointellectualism may be the biggest downfall society is facing. I'll say it one more time. Every panel of scientists from every country. People who've spent their lives studying molecular biology, analyzed the data and said 'Yes, we want this for our family and our population'. But you, who failed high school biology, know better. You see through the BS, you read some articles on the internet in 10 minutes that made you smarter than all of them. Good, more sexy Pinays for the rest of us, stay out. I actually hope somebody deletes this whole thread of nonsense.


My friend, if you take the trouble to check even the mainstream news online, several American and British pilots, who were mandated or coerced into getting the shots, have become sick or died -- some in-flight, or shortly afterwards. I post here because of my interest in the Philippines and their maniacal following of the Covid cult. At one point the former president (Duterte) was threatening vaccine refuseniks with jail cells! Does that sound like any kind of rational administration? Not to mention masking AND plastic shields in 95F heat.

[Flak3]

If your outbound trip from Manila is to a foreign country, then you will probably not pass thru arrivals Immigration; you would probably just head to your International flight gate, and you might not be able to depart the airport.Last month I saw 4 or 5 guys with long layovers try to leave the airport. One guy even had a reservation at a hotel. They were all told that if they were staying for less than 24 hours for a connecting flight, they needed to apply ahead of time for an exception from immigration and needed a letter from the airline to leave the airport. They argued with immigration for hours but none of them were allowed to leave. So unless they changed the rule in the last few weeks, have fun sleeping in the airport.

[Expat American]

Bro, take off the tinfoil hat. All of those stories have been debunked. My best friend is an ER doctor and so is her husband and there are literally no covid patients in her ER that are vaccinated. Are they lying to me? Are they covering up some deep state conspiracy to control the population? Yes you can get it if you are vaccinated, because it has mutated. Actually the initial vaccines did prevent you (95%) from getting the alpha variant. Luckily they still keep you from dying. Shedding? That is dumbshittery at its highest level. Pseudointellectualism may be the biggest downfall society is facing. I'll say it one more time. Every panel of scientists from every country. People who've spent their lives studying molecular biology, analyzed the data and said 'Yes, we want this for our family and our population'. But you, who failed high school biology, know better. You see through the BS, you read some articles on the internet in 10 minutes that made you smarter than all of them. Good, more sexy Pinays for the rest of us, stay out. I actually hope somebody deletes this whole thread of nonsense.Give it up Bro. Facts don't change the mind of crazy people. These are people who think nothing of fucking hookers bareback in a third world dump but think scientifically developed and tested life saving vaccines are too high a risk. No amount of logic or facts will help. There were people dying of Covid in hospitals who still think the whole thing is a liberal deep state hoax.

[FuriousGeorge]

True. I had a moment of weakness. I do believe that in the future logic will win out. Unfortunately we'll all be dead. I guess we can feel honored to be living through this transitional period.


Give it up Bro. Facts don't change the mind of crazy people. These are people who think nothing of fucking hookers bareback in a third world dump but think scientifically developed and tested life saving vaccines are too high a risk. No amount of logic or facts will help. There were people dying of Covid in hospitals who still think the whole thing is a liberal deep state hoax.

[Sammon]

Apology, I might not have been clear enough. Its not clear if you will have any domestic travel. Travel from the US to Manila is international. But your outbound trip from Manila, is that domestic? Are you flying from Manila to Cebu / Surigao / other (domestic)? That might require you to go thru arrivals Immigration at NAIA, then transit to your MNL-Cebu domestic flight (possibly a taxi ride to a different terminal). Once thru Immigration, you could depart the airport for your short-time, then return to the airport for your domestic flight to Cebu.

If your outbound trip from Manila is to a foreign country, then you will probably not pass thru arrivals Immigration; you would probably just head to your International flight gate, and you might not be able to depart the airport.

If you purchased your tickets online, you might already have received instructions on whether you are transiting (internationally only) or arriving (domestic flight), and how to collect your luggage. Alternately you can contact any travel agent in the US and give them your flight info, and they can tell you if you will be able to depart the airport and return. Or alternately, contact your airline in advance and ask them. Other gents weigh in.I think even if you have a connecting flight to another foreign destination you can still leave the airport and come back as long as you fill out the forms required to enter. I guess if you tell the immigration that you are just staying for a few hours they may not let you in asking to wait in the airport for the next flight. In Singapore I have gone to town during 10 hours layover and came back. Do not know if Philippine immigration is any different.

[AsianPursuits]

I think even if you have a connecting flight to another foreign destination you can still leave the airport and come back as long as you fill out the forms required to enter. I guess if you tell the immigration that you are just staying for a few hours they may not let you in asking to wait in the airport for the next flight. In Singapore I have gone to town during 10 hours layover and came back. Do not know if Philippine immigration is any different.In Singapore I have cleared immigration for an hour to send off a friend BUT only one entry / exit per calendar day. Similar in HK for a day of work visits.

For my trip to Manila I can't think of any reason why I cannot clear immigration for a few hours. I arrive, I enter with the standard questions. Why are you here?, how long you stay? To that last question I just say "one day".

I already will have my outbound boarding pass so when I return to airport I'll just go directly to security and depart.

Cannot wait.

[Steve Nash]

Last month I saw 4 or 5 guys with long layovers try to leave the airport. One guy even had a reservation at a hotel. They were all told that if they were staying for less than 24 hours for a connecting flight, they needed to apply ahead of time for an exception from immigration and needed a letter from the airline to leave the airport. They argued with immigration for hours but none of them were allowed to leave. So unless they changed the rule in the last few weeks, have fun sleeping in the airport.I think that only applies for flights coming from abroad, because I took a flight back on April from Negros to Palawan with 8 hours stop in Manila, I was able to leave the airport party with my girl for 5 hours (it was a night layover) then I don't remember how I ended up in Palawan because I got so drunk that I blackout (I mix beer with hard liquor) my girl took good care of me even thought she said I embarrass her in the airport, that was the drunkest I ever got in the last 3-4 years!

If I was those guys and I wanted to hook up (since he said he book a hotel room) I will buy an International flight to Manila and stay 1 night there and then flight the next day to whatever province he was going.

I have done that once before, it works if you have a living partner or wife waiting for you in the province, you can just tell her that you will arrive late in Manila (but of course arrive early) and you had to wait for your next flight 9-10 hours at the airport (tell her you didn't have load since you just arrived in the country, so she won't call you). If all this works you can easily have 1 free night in Manila without her ever finding out!

Oh shit I'm giving away all my secrets here.

[Sammon]

In Singapore I have cleared immigration for an hour to send off a friend BUT only one entry / exit per calendar day. Similar in HK for a day of work visits.

For my trip to Manila I can't think of any reason why I cannot clear immigration for a few hours. I arrive, I enter with the standard questions. Why are you here?, how long you stay? To that last question I just say "one day".

I already will have my outbound boarding pass so when I return to airport I'll just go directly to security and depart.

Cannot wait.I checked Philippine Airlines website. It says unless the ticket says stopover one cannot leave the airport on layover. I do not think immigration will stop you if you show the filled questionnaire on the app. If they ask no need to say you are on a layover. Just say few days stay. On the way back immigration do not ask any questions.

I have booked a flight to Jakarta next year via Manila because it was the cheapest. Toronto to Manila-layover of 10 hours then to Jakarta. Coming back will stay in Philippines for a couple of weeks. It will be horrible to spend 10 hours at the airport. Manila airport does not have day rooms or hotels connected to rest.

[Flak3]

I checked Philippine Airlines website. It says unless the ticket says stopover one cannot leave the airport on layover. I do not think immigration will stop you if you show the filled questionnaire on the app. If they ask no need to say you are on a layover. Just say few days stay. On the way back immigration do not ask any questions.All 5 guys filled out the questionnaire and uploaded the vax info. They were all stopped at immigration and sent to the transfer area / transit lounge. One guy didn't even say he was staying for a few hours, when they scanned his passport, it pulled up his departure flight 12 hours later and he was detained. From what I could tell, this was a new rule for COVID. So if you really want to exit, contact the airline and immigration ahead of time. Otherwise risk being detained or worse when you try to exit the country.

[Expat American]

I have done that once before, it works if you have a living partner or wife waiting for you in the province, you can just tell her that you will arrive late in Manila (but of course arrive early) and you had to wait for your next flight 9-10 hours at the airport (tell her you didn't have load since you just arrived in the country, so she won't call you). If all this works you can easily have 1 free night in Manila without her ever finding out!

Oh shit I'm giving away all my secrets here.So a rich white guy marries or partners with an uneducated province girl, supports her entire village and still can't spend a night on his own in Manila without jumping through hoops for the aforementioned village girl? Why not just marry a white woman in your home country if you want to give up your balls. LOL LOL.

[Steve Nash]

So a rich white guy marries or partners with an uneducated province girl, supports her entire village and still can't spend a night on his own in Manila without jumping through hoops for the aforementioned village girl? Why not just marry a white woman in your home country if you want to give up your balls. LOL LOL.Yes I agree, if you are rich and you are white (well you can be from any color: yellow, green, orange, doesn't matter), and your wife or partner is an uneducated province girl (which doesn't matter she can be educated or uneducated, either way), and you support her entire village (that one I agree, you give up your balls if you are supporting her entire village), about giving up your balls to a white woman well that's just been a pussy! Why would you marry a women (white or yellow or green or orange, doesn't matter) and give up your balls, that's just been a loser! No man should give up their balls to no one, it doesn't matter if she is white, hot and educated!

The reason you might lied about spending a night in Manila is because maybe you need to be urgent on her province and you need to arrived there ASAP, there is no time for stopover in another city or anything, but since the cheapest ticket available (you are not rich BTW) is a ticket with a stop in Manila for 7 hours, you say: "fuck it! I won't stay in Manila for 7 hours without changing oil", so you decide to arrive early (I save like $80 CAD by arriving in Manila instead of her province), then spend the night (cost me like $40 the hotel) and then flight to her province the next day (cost me like $70 the flight), in total I ended up spending like $30 extra for a night of sex (well that doesn't include the date, but the date was cheap like 1 K), and BTW for the girl I didn't pay her anything, just met her in the mall we talk for abit there, then to my hotel for afew drinks (couldn't close the deal there yet), then we went to the disco drink some more and finally back in the hotel she finally give-in (she had a huge ass, I'm a sucker of booty, real booty not fake booty), so we had sex before we pass out then sleep for 3 hours and then second round when we woke up at 6 am, I almost miss my 9 am flight but no worries I made it and by 11 am I was with my living partner, she asked me you look like you haven't sleep, I said to her: "Yeah, try to sleep in the airport", she hug me and said: "That's why I love you, you sacrifice sleeping in the airport to be here".

[FuriousGeorge]

Gad-freakin-damn I am glad I am I don't have a wife or girlfriend and I'm free and can't be blackmailed. But good for you bro, balancing chaos and working the system.


"Yeah, try to sleep in the airport", she hug me and said: "That's why I love you, you sacrifice sleeping in the airport to be here".

[Steve Nash]

Gad-freakin-damn I am glad I am I don't have a wife or girlfriend and I'm free and can't be blackmailed. But good for you bro, balancing chaos and working the system.Yeah you got to work the system, specially if she ends up being your wife. It is worth it!

If she is just a girl you barely know is not worth it, BUT in my case we know eachother for more than 3 years and we lived together for 14 months. She is the real deal: hardworker, independent, intelligent, NEVER asked me for money and the age gap is less than 14 years, and I haven't even talk about her looks, let's just say I'm very picky in looks and she passes with flying colors, anyways the big kicker for me was two things: One, that we have a baby together and I don't see myself not being in my daughter's life, and two, and more important that after living with my wife for 14 months during COVID (yeah we finally got married) I realized that she is the woman I see myself waking up every morning. Yeah if anybody calls me corny, I don't care! Because I'm very happy with my decision.

[Dg8787]

Gad-freakin-damn I am glad I am I don't have a wife or girlfriend and I'm free and can't be blackmailed. But good for you bro, balancing chaos and working the system.Me too!

My rotation of regular girls know and understand that I need a variety of new ones. I don't lie nor do I hide it. Some have asked me in the past if I am fucking others and I reply I will give you an answer if you can handle it. Some don't want to know and others don't care if I do or can live with it. After telling them I am, I just smile and say "I was born this way". Most will reply "yeah, I know".

At that point I enlist them for their friends!

[Drbombay]

So a rich white guy marries or partners with an uneducated province girl, supports her entire village and still can't spend a night on his own in Manila without jumping through hoops for the aforementioned village girl? Why not just marry a white woman in your home country if you want to give up your balls. LOL LOL.Kind of reminds me of a situation I was in back in March. During the lockdown years I met someone on MeetMe / Skout whom I chatted up with. The usual, drop a gift online, etc. Well I finally made it down to Manila in March of this year, and after finding more fun with new women, I let some of the online ones slip by. Basically I got tired of being asked to "give" and get nothing but some half-assed conversations on promises to meet. This one lady, at first knowing I was there began the usual "are you not seeing other people and why do you give them gifts, etc" when I asked how if she was so dirt poor she was sitting in a nice computer chair that costs a nice peso. She said it was a gift from one of her Gifter online. So I asked if it's ok for you to receive gifts from others and I'm not supposed to be jealous or worry, then why is it not fair for me to see and give to whomever I want? That Logic bomb probably didn't sit too well with her, but then she decided to want to see me and I shut it down.

If you are in the position of not being able to take a "me" moment in trying to get down to see someone, then it's probably not worth it. You are their investment and they don't want anyone scooping up their money / opportunity, and I say if I were you just move on to the next one. Don't get caught up in their petty games.

[CreateNinnov8]

H All,

Just back from a 7 Day Fuckation. It was very memorable. Had total of 7 P $$usy in & days with 18 Cums.

Stayed in Makati. Had so much fun.

Now catching up with work, will post daywise reports with pics soon.

[Tkg2015]

Hey everyone,

I am planning first trip this year and at this point looking for some hotel advice. Travelling with a buddy for what will be about a 7 week trip starting in Manila. Plan to stay there for about a week and then over to a beach spot (Boracay, Palawan, or Puerto Galera) for a few days and probably over to Cebu for several days. From the Philippines we plan to go to Vietnam possibly Cambodia and last to Thailand for about 3-4 weeks. For hotels we are wanting something decent for the first few nights in Makati to settle in and get over the jetlag (coming from Canada) We have checked with several hotels about their guest policy and it seems the majority are replying that guests need to leave by 10 pm including City Grand which is at the top of our list. That one gets mentioned quite a bit on here, has this been the experience that guests have to leave by 10 pm?

[Steve Nash]

Kind of reminds me of a situation I was in back in March. During the lockdown years I met someone on MeetMe / Skout whom I chatted up with. The usual, drop a gift online, etc. Well I finally made it down to Manila in March of this year, and after finding more fun with new women, I let some of the online ones slip by. Basically I got tired of being asked to "give" and get nothing but some half-assed conversations on promises to meet. This one lady, at first knowing I was there began the usual "are you not seeing other people and why do you give them gifts, etc" when I asked how if she was so dirt poor she was sitting in a nice computer chair that costs a nice peso. She said it was a gift from one of her Gifter online. So I asked if it's ok for you to receive gifts from others and I'm not supposed to be jealous or worry, then why is it not fair for me to see and give to whomever I want? That Logic bomb probably didn't sit too well with her, but then she decided to want to see me and I shut it down.

If you are in the position of not being able to take a "me" moment in trying to get down to see someone, then it's probably not worth it. You are their investment and they don't want anyone scooping up their money / opportunity, and I say if I were you just move on to the next one. Don't get caught up in their petty games.I 100% agree, that's why I never dated girls in Philippines who asked me for money, I always let them know in the middle of our conversation (in person or videocall) or in my dating profile that I don't like escorts, goldiggers or women asking for money.

But I do agree, if you are meeting girls and you are paying them for sex (or giving them gifts before you meet them which is kind of a payment), they have NO RIGHT to tell you what to do and who you meet next. That should be common sense!

And if she is not with you for money, and you still want to dated other girls you can have an open relationship (which I have experienced it before for almost 20 years back in Canada and in Philippines or the other countries I travel), that way there are not lies and no one getting hurt!

[Expat American]

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And if she is not with you for money, and you still want to dated other girls you can have an open relationship (which I have experienced it before for almost 20 years back in Canada and in Philippines or the other countries I travel), that way there are not lies and no one getting hurt!It took me a long time to learn this. Now I am married to a lovely Singaporean girl, 20 years my junior who works in top Tech company, not with me for money, treats me like a king and understands that I will always have the desire to fuck strange pussy. Its the first time I have a partner I can be 100% honest with and its awesome. No hiding or cheating. I make my side trips to Phils or Thailand etc every few months and its all cool. Of course I have no desire to have a relationship with any Filipina or Thai girl and I also have no qualms paying for sex to keep it uncomplicated. I've tried the dating scene and while its supremely easy to fuck for free, it always ends messy with me having to ghost them in the end. You don't pay for sex, you pay to avoid felling guilty later.

[FuriousGeorge]

The City Garden Grand Hotel in Makati has no restrictions on time guests may stay. I promise. Have stayed there many many times and have had many many girls stay the night with no issues. Rest easy.


Hey everyone,

I am planning first trip this year and at this point looking for some hotel advice. Travelling with a buddy for what will be about a 7 week trip starting in Manila. Plan to stay there for about a week and then over to a beach spot (Boracay, Palawan, or Puerto Galera) for a few days and probably over to Cebu for several days. From the Philippines we plan to go to Vietnam possibly Cambodia and last to Thailand for about 3-4 weeks. For hotels we are wanting something decent for the first few nights in Makati to settle in and get over the jetlag (coming from Canada) We have checked with several hotels about their guest policy and it seems the majority are replying that guests need to leave by 10 pm including City Grand which is at the top of our list. That one gets mentioned quite a bit on here, has this been the experience that guests have to leave by 10 pm?

[WestCoast1]

The City Garden Grand Hotel in Makati has no restrictions on time guests may stay. I promise. Have stayed there many many times and have had many many girls stay the night with no issues. Rest easy.City Garden Grand is a lovely hotel, complete with nice rooftop pool and restaurant on the roof. Not to be confused with the City Garden hotel, which sits diagonally across Makati Avenue. Most places in Makati, including condos, have gone back to the old system of your girl giving up her ID with the door guard and signing in for the evening, and getting the ID back when she leaves.

I am not aware of anyplace stopping guests or removing guests after 10 pm anymore. If CGG is emailing that policy is guests out by 10 pm, that might be official policy, but its probably not enforced.

[RamyeonGuy]

H All,

Just back from a 7 Day Fuckation. It was very memorable. Had total of 7 P $$usy in & days with 18 Cums.

Stayed in Makati. Had so much fun.

Now catching up with work, will post daywise reports with pics soon.Hope you had a great time. Looking forward to hear your experience.

[Tkg2015]

The City Garden Grand Hotel in Makati has no restrictions on time guests may stay. I promise. Have stayed there many many times and have had many many girls stay the night with no issues. Rest easy.Thanks FG appreciate the info and reassurance.

[Tkg2015]

City Garden Grand is a lovely hotel, complete with nice rooftop pool and restaurant on the roof. Not to be confused with the City Garden hotel, which sits diagonally across Makati Avenue. Most places in Makati, including condos, have gone back to the old system of your girl giving up her ID with the door guard and signing in for the evening, and getting the ID back when she leaves.

I am not aware of anyplace stopping guests or removing guests after 10 pm anymore. If CGG is emailing that policy is guests out by 10 pm, that might be official policy, but its probably not enforced.That's kind of what I thought. From reading the forum it seems many have stayed there and it is the nicer of the 2. I'll go ahead with the bookings for a couple of nights to recover from the journey and settle in. If we run into any issues we'll try somewhere else. Hopefully I can make some contributions to the forum after the trip. Haven't done so in the past with the exception of PM's long ago but there is a first time for everything. I would say I have helped several people on the ground in different locations. My trips over about the past 15 years have included several trips to the DR, Cuba, Colombia, Tijuana, Panama. Etc.

This was the response from the City Garden Grand. Several others had similar responses.

"Dear Mr. X,

You may register a maximum of 2 people as a visitor at the Front Desk but please be advised that they may only stay at the hotel until 10 PM.

[ErinCoin]

Hello, I am planning on visiting the Philippines for 2 weeks to visit some friends. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with booking someone from Massage Republic? If so, what is your experience and with who? Does anyone recommend and other ways to find someone other than Massage Republic? I wanted to find someone that can show me around the city and also be comfortable with going back to my room. I am staying at the Sofitel Manila if that matters. Thank you for your input.

[Phil65]

That's kind of what I thought. From reading the forum it seems many have stayed there and it is the nicer of the 2. I'll go ahead with the bookings for a couple of nights to recover from the journey and settle in. If we run into any issues we'll try somewhere else. Hopefully I can make some contributions to the forum after the trip. Haven't done so in the past with the exception of PM's long ago but there is a first time for everything. I would say I have helped several people on the ground in different locations. My trips over about the past 15 years have included several trips to the DR, Cuba, Colombia, Tijuana, Panama. Etc..I got same message after booking 5 nights in September. I never had problems with them regarding guests. I figured this was a CYA type email.

First time back in 3 years.

[Drbombay]

Hello, I am planning on visiting the Philippines for 2 weeks to visit some friends. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with booking someone from Massage Republic? If so, what is your experience and with who? Does anyone recommend and other ways to find someone other than Massage Republic? I wanted to find someone that can show me around the city and also be comfortable with going back to my room. I am staying at the Sofitel Manila if that matters. Thank you for your input.I was last in Manila back in March and met one from Massage Republic there. Depending on how you hit it off with them you could get someone who would be willing to go with a GFE, but remember they are there to make money. The longer they stay with you and see you, the more you will pay. Just do a search for Manila Escorts in Google and you will find some of the same women there that you would find on MR.

Good Hunting!

[KrisMonger]

I was last in Manila back in March and met one from Massage Republic there. Depending on how you hit it off with them you could get someone who would be willing to go with a GFE, but remember they are there to make money. The longer they stay with you and see you, the more you will pay. Just do a search for Manila Escorts in Google and you will find some of the same women there that you would find on MR.

Good Hunting!Good advice. Pre-covid in 2019, got someone from smooci (just google that out as well) just for like a few hours (overpaid slightly) and since I was pretty happy with her decided to hold onto her for the night. Just asked if she wanted to stay the night and she was fine. Zero negotiations whatsoever on money. When time came for her to leave next day AM -she herself floated the idea of just staying back for the day as well. Long story short, she stayed over for a few days with me, went wherever I went and all I did was feed her, buy her clothes and just treat her well. When it was time to leave Manila, I just told her to get something nice and gave her like 300 USD (think roughly 3 full days at this time). She was genuinely happy with the money as well. I have lost touch with her (before someone asks for her number) but I have repeated this same play even in DR and that has worked as well.

[MamaGuevos]

My friend, if you take the trouble to check even the mainstream news online, several American and British pilots, who were mandated or coerced into getting the shots, have become sick or died -- some in-flight, or shortly afterwards. I post here because of my interest in the Philippines and their maniacal following of the Covid cult. At one point the former president (Duterte) was threatening vaccine refuseniks with jail cells! Does that sound like any kind of rational administration? Not to mention masking AND plastic shields in 95F heat.I would never try and defend Duterte, although his COVID policies are the least of his sins.

but please provide us with mainstream links (url) to the stories of the vaccinated american and british pilots who were coerced into shots who died in flight (or shortly thereafter) of covid. by mainstream, i mean bbc, nbc, cnn, cbs, ap, ny times, wapo, wall street journal (but not infowars, 8 kun, bitchute, rumble and the like). foxnews might even qualify as mainstream for this purpose.

The CDC has data on their website showing that vaccinated people with normal immune systems have a much lower rate of dying than unvaccinated.

I have no doubt that you mean well, but in my opinion, you are delusional.

[GoodEnough]

I would never try and defend Duterte, although his COVID policies are the least of his sins.

but please provide us with mainstream links (url) to the stories of the vaccinated american and british pilots who were coerced into shots who died in flight (or shortly thereafter) of covid. by mainstream, i mean bbc, nbc, cnn, cbs, ap, ny times, wapo, wall street journal (but not infowars, 8 kun, bitchute, rumble and the like). foxnews might even qualify as mainstream for this purpose.

The CDC has data on their website showing that vaccinated people with normal immune systems have a much lower rate of dying than unvaccinated.

I have no doubt that you mean well, but in my opinion, you are delusional.Arguing with those who wear the tinfoil hats is roughy analogous to speaking with a plant and offers the same degree of satisfaction. I live, as some will know, in Davao, and the city did an excellent job distributing the vaccines it had available and did so efficiently and at no cost. I've had four shots, all Pfizer, and all were given on time. As far as I can tell through a totally non-random, non-stratified sample, the vax rates in A / see appear reasonably high, at least for the first 2 doses and the same appears to be true in MetroManila. One of the problems restricting the further dispersement of vaccines isn't related to supply but to extremely fear, on the part of lesser-educated people in the population, of injections of any type despite an ardent government campaign to persuade people to get vaxxed.

GE.

[WestCoast1]

I would never try and defend Duterte, although his COVID policies are the least of his sins. but please provide us with mainstream links (url) to the stories of the vaccinated american and british pilots who were coerced into shots who died in flight (or shortly thereafter) of covid. by mainstream, i mean bbc, nbc, cnn, cbs, ap, ny times, wapo, wall street journal (but not infowars, 8 kun, bitchute, rumble and the like). foxnews might even qualify as mainstream for this purpose.

SNIP I have no doubt that you mean well, but in my opinion, you are delusional.Trevor did, in a different thread (Stupid Shit). Its on page 2, post #434. Here are several of his posted vids of the pilots talking about the issue:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NDkLlLMSr3HV/

https://www.bitchute.com/video/LihlheH6G7He/

Unfortunately they are bitchute (kindest description of bitchute is: EXTREME-ALTERNATIVE SH*T THAT'S BEEN BANNED BY YOUTUBE, TWITTER, GOOGLE, AND SO ON). So if you are turned off by that, don't watch it. However its literally video of pilots speaking about what happened to them. Its bitchute, take it with a grain of salt.

Trevor's claim is not that the vaccines don't work. His claim is that the vaccines kill people. His previous reporting is that 1/3 of the vaccines are placebo, 1/3 make people sick, and 1/3 kill recipients. Trevor is that right?

[PBtoCobra]

I would never try and defend Duterte, although his COVID policies are the least of his sins.

but please provide us with mainstream links (url) to the stories of the vaccinated american and british pilots who were coerced into shots who died in flight (or shortly thereafter) of covid. by mainstream, i mean bbc, nbc, cnn, cbs, ap, ny times, wapo, wall street journal (but not infowars, 8 kun, bitchute, rumble and the like). foxnews might even qualify as mainstream for this purpose.

The CDC has data on their website showing that vaccinated people with normal immune systems have a much lower rate of dying than unvaccinated.

I have no doubt that you mean well, but in my opinion, you are delusional.To be clear, in the UK this was denied by a number of Airlines and does not have any credibility. I recall British Airways saying this was nonsense.

[WestCoast1]

To be clear, in the UK this was denied by a number of Airlines and does not have any credibility. I recall British Airways saying this was nonsense.Which would lead to credence from the Trevor / Bitchute argument (in their minds), that the DEEP STATE controls what we see?

[Trevor2522]

Trevor's claim is not that the vaccines don't work. His claim is that the vaccines kill people. His previous reporting is that 1/3 of the vaccines are placebo, 1/3 make people sick, and 1/3 kill recipients. Trevor is that right?Best to keep this subject under 'Stupid Shit in the Philippines' as it is not directly sex-related, although there is a possible 'shedding' connection (between vaccinated and unvaccinated intimates, or those with different vaccines). I have been researching vaccines since the 1990's and decided never to take any more travel-related ones after my first internet session in 1996. I do not believe in viral contagion and keep myself well by following a carnivore diet (no grains, sugar or vegetables). After all, humanity spectacularly colonised the world with billons of people, without a single modern drug or vaccine.

According to that Slovenian nurse administering Covid vaccines, approximately ⅓ are saline placebos, ⅓ contain mRNA and ⅓ contain an mRNA oncogene which causes cancer within 2 years. I would not want any mRNA interacting with my genome! Some who have received these shots report cancers, blood clots, myocarditis (heart inflammation), loss of baby, eczema, behavioural/mood changes, low energy & fever.

[PedroMorales]

Best to keep this subject under 'Stupid Shit in the Philippines' as it is not directly sex-related, a.Indeed. Most people world wide don't care as long as they can pop their pills and indulge their hobbies; As you are so anti vax, how do you manage visa etc wise?

[MagicBeans]

Hi all,

I'm going to be in Manila for a few weeks by the end of September. It's been a while since I've been there (last visit was before the covid pandemic), and hence I'm pretty clueless about the current situation.

I've already got a few FWB connections there whom I'm going to visit but meanwhile want to try something new.

How good is massagerepublic?

[Dg8787]

Hi all,

I'm going to be in Manila for a few weeks by the end of September. It's been a while since I've been there (last visit was before the covid pandemic), and hence I'm pretty clueless about the current situation.

I've already got a few FWB connections there whom I'm going to visit but meanwhile want to try something new.

How good is massagerepublic?Plain rude dude.

How dare you come on here and ruin the flow of information regarding Covid, antivaxxers, greater conspiracies, stupid shits, end of the world and on and on stupid shit for the want of seeking sex!

[Olodo]

Hello all,

I will be traveling to the Philippines beginning of November and was wondering how good the website pinalove is for finding colleges aged girls? I probably shouldn't have done this but I already signed up and also signed up for Thai friendly (will be in Thailand as well in December most likely unless I fall in love with Philippines).

I noticed a big difference between both. I have the same pictures and same info on both profiles but on Thai friendly I only get matches with ladies my own age or close to 37, maybe one or 2 girls college aged. On pinalove the majority of girls that liked me are 18-25, like over 180 so far. One cute girl out of the blue messaged me for 4 k for all evening no condom, is it that easy?

I try not to talk to them yet because I am still a couple months away but what is your success rate with pinalove with girls?

[Errol Flynn]

Plain rude dude.

How dare you come on here and ruin the flow of information regarding Covid, antivaxxers, greater conspiracies, stupid shits, end of the world and on and on stupid shit for the want of seeking sex!Yes, how dare he ask to do what the board was formed for? Doesn't he know there are plenty of other places on the commercial web to discuss how gentlemen can find ladies for sex?

But there is nowhere else to argue about the effectiveness of COVID vaccines? (FWIW I've had four shots, no reactions and never contracted COVID, which means exactly nothing as far as the amount of sex I am having, which has been extremely crimped by COVID).

[Trevor2522]

Indeed. Most people world wide don't care as long as they can pop their pills and indulge their hobbies; As you are so anti vax, how do you manage visa etc wise?This worldwide 'scamdemic' was a once-in-a-lifetime event, like wars (also pre-planned by the banksters) were for our parents and grandparents. Since I still have 28 years to live, from my father's lifespan, I prefer not to take my chances with any 'mystery-ingredient' shots. Travel restrictions are dropping away quite quickly, except for high-population, developing countries they want to reduce. Mexico and Dominican Republic never required a vaccine throughout. 'Everything comes to those who wait'.

[Kforab]

Hello,

I will be 1 week in a hotel directly in the airport area, Hilton.

Can you suggest me any fun and how it is with escort?

Please help, thxx!!

[CreateNinnov8]

Hi,

As promised below my day1 report.

Found this girl on pina last year. Have been chatting and discussing everything.

We agreed the deal. I sent her my flight details and requested her to come to pick me at the airport.

She cam, wow she is pretty. 22 yr. Single mom. Very pleasing personality.

Works part-time. Family in province.

We checking in together at a hotel Grand Central Makati.

2 back to back in couple of hrs.

Ordered dinner. Plunge in bathtub. Finish there with soapy body. Hehe.

Next morning shower together finished in missy.

Breakfast and off she goes.

Full GFE.

[AsianPursuits]

We agreed the deal. I sent her my flight details and requested her to come to pick me at the airport.Thanks for the report. How awesome is the airport pickup experience? While many arrivals are met by a driver with paper sign, you are met by a lovely smiling Filipina and a welcoming vagina.

I do hope you will see more of her again as a year of pinalove and chatting is a big price to pay.

[BlitPunk]

Hey guys! Can I ask for some tips? My mongering experience has only been in California LOS Angeles and thisll be my first fucktrip abroad. Whats the usual etiquette when it comes to mongering in manila and cebu? Do agencies usually provide better service? I'm on pinalove and filipinocupid (with no luck) Should I be looking at massagerepublic and euroescortgirls for indies? What about going to one of these gogo bars, how does it usually go when it comes to taking a girl back to the hotel for a night?

Hope all is well!

[AsianPursuits]

Hey guys! Can I ask for some tips? My mongering experience has only been in California LOS Angeles and thisll be my first fucktrip abroad. Whats the usual etiquette when it comes to mongering in manila and cebu? Do agencies usually provide better service? I'm on pinalove and filipinocupid (with no luck) Should I be looking at massagerepublic and euroescortgirls for indies? What about going to one of these gogo bars, how does it usually go when it comes to taking a girl back to the hotel for a night?

Hope all is well!Here is your first tip. Read the thousands of pages of tips on this forum. Great intel and knowledge is there for your education. Within a few minutes you'll be able to answer them yourself.

[CreateNinnov8]

I like full GFE.

And I like things to be organized and I love a girl coming to pick me up.

Yet I am not going to meet her again on m next trip. YOLO.


Thanks for the report. How awesome is the airport pickup experience? While many arrivals are met by a driver with paper sign, you are met by a lovely smiling Filipina and a welcoming vagina.

I do hope you will see more of her again as a year of pinalove and chatting is a big price to pay.

[Expat American]

Hey guys! Can I ask for some tips? My mongering experience has only been in California LOS Angeles and thisll be my first fucktrip abroad. Whats the usual etiquette when it comes to mongering in manila and cebu? Do agencies usually provide better service? I'm on pinalove and filipinocupid (with no luck) Should I be looking at massagerepublic and euroescortgirls for indies? What about going to one of these gogo bars, how does it usually go when it comes to taking a girl back to the hotel for a night?

Hope all is well!If you have had no hits on the dating sites there must be something really wrong with you. How old are you? Are you horribly disfigured? Can you communicate in basic English? Seriously, just making an account with no words and just a single picture should get you dozens of hits. Secondly, if you are not capable of a basic google search or even reading pages on this forum to get the basic information you seek, I seriously doubt you have the capacity to travel internationally. So better stay home. Not trying to be mean, just realistic.

[Breadman]

Hey guys! Can I ask for some tips? My mongering experience has only been in California LOS Angeles and thisll be my first fucktrip abroad. Whats the usual etiquette when it comes to mongering in manila and cebu? Do agencies usually provide better service? I'm on pinalove and filipinocupid (with no luck) Should I be looking at massagerepublic and euroescortgirls for indies? What about going to one of these gogo bars, how does it usually go when it comes to taking a girl back to the hotel for a night?

Hope all is well!Honestly for a first time hobby trip I would never consider the Philippines. Thailand is the place to go, specifically Pattaya. Every place you turn in Pattaya has bars with girls willing to go back to your hotel or use a room upstairs for a small fee. I had the worst first visit ever in Manila right before covid hit and I've got tons of experience under my belt. It got better once I just accepted the scene for what it was and went with the flow.

[Pute Nut]

Are you horribly disfigured?
It would actually be quite fun to post a Quasimodo-style profile to establish a baseline.

Maybe he included the word "fucktrip" in the profiles? That would probably not go over well with some pinays, but should still attract a good number of solicitations, I guess (didn't try).

[Drbombay]

Hey guys! Can I ask for some tips? My mongering experience has only been in California LOS Angeles and thisll be my first fucktrip abroad. Whats the usual etiquette when it comes to mongering in manila and cebu? Do agencies usually provide better service? I'm on pinalove and filipinocupid (with no luck) Should I be looking at massagerepublic and euroescortgirls for indies? What about going to one of these gogo bars, how does it usually go when it comes to taking a girl back to the hotel for a night?

Hope all is well!Dude, they will smell the freshness on you while you are still in the airport getting your money exchanged. Just got to LA Cafe and they will walk up to you and the rest will be history.

[Lefeu]

Honestly for a first time hobby trip I would never consider the Philippines. Thailand is the place to go, specifically Pattaya..I had the exact same experience on my first visit to the Philippines. Even worse, the experience was replicated in Pattaya. Luckily this was 20 years ago. I have graduated since then, so my advice is don't give up.

[Lefeu]

...Not trying to be mean, just realistic.Is that your idea of realistic? Pretty pathetic!

[WestCoast1]

Young 4' 11" twiglet guapa got my attention and drained me. Twice in the same night.

[Albert9989]

Young 4' 11" twiglet guapa got my attention and drained me. Twice in the same night.Ohhh seems that you gave her a very deep attention.

[WestCoast1]

Ohhh seems that you gave her a very deep attention.Correct Albert. Bongbong asked me to bring back my vaxxing program (a win-win for everyone). Gents bring your vaxxing tools; help the cause.

[Albert9989]

Correct Albert. Bongbong asked me to bring back my vaxxing program (a win-win for everyone). Gents bring your vaxxing tools; help the cause.Be careful not to deep throat from the bottom on such small models.

But so nice view and model also.

[WestCoast1]

Be careful not to deep throat from the bottom on such small models.Ya she was gurgling at times.

[CreateNinnov8]

On Day2 I have planned for 1 3 some with the 2 girls attached. They came in by 5 ish and left next day by 3 pm.

We had lots of fun. Had champagne shower bath in my bathtub. Lots BBBJ, WOT, Missy & Doggy.

We went to Filling station for dinner had a great time there.

Next morning one of the girls woke me up with a wonderful BBBJ. Followed by soapy WOT.

All in all fun. Only ruse was one of them had braces and while it doesn't hurt with BBBJ but you can feel it on your tool.

[PrinceyHot]

After lot of research I have filtered these two hotels in Manila / Makati. I am planning to stay in City Garden Makati for 3 nights and then 2 nights in Central Park Tower AC and again back to New Coast Hotel Manila. Are these good ones which is girl / guest friendly without any entry problems or any better deals than these? I am planning to visit last week of October and 1st week of November.

[PrinceyHot]

On Day2 I have planned for 1 3 some with the 2 girls attached. Thats Awesome. May I know in which hotel you are staying?

[Revrez]

After lot of research I have filtered these two hotels in Manila / Makati. I am planning to stay in City Garden Makati for 3 nights and then 2 nights in Central Park Tower AC and again back to New Coast Hotel Manila. Are these good ones which is girl / guest friendly without any entry problems or any better deals than these? I am planning to visit last week of October and 1st week of November.I'm staying at City Garden Makati. I have to say the location is stellar because its walking distance from poblacion and burgos. The rooms are just above average. Guest friendly from what I have seen.

[TheDirtyBeast]

After lot of research I have filtered these two hotels in Manila / Makati. I am planning to stay in City Garden Makati for 3 nights and then 2 nights in Central Park Tower AC and again back to New Coast Hotel Manila. Are these good ones which is girl / guest friendly without any entry problems or any better deals than these? I am planning to visit last week of October and 1st week of November.I stayed at city garden. They are guest friendly as lo g as guest have ID with them. The hotel will hold their ID whilst they are with you and they ring your room to check if it's ok to let the girls go.

[WestCoast1]

Clean and vax'and my NCR gal. You do the same.

[CreateNinnov8]

Yes I stayed there 4 weeks ago.

Very good hotel. Good breakfast too.

Also depending on the time of the day the girls comes in and also how the girl is dressed, the ID can be ignored!

So yeah very good hotel to be in.


I stayed at city garden. They are guest friendly as lo g as guest have ID with them. The hotel will hold their ID whilst they are with you and they ring your room to check if it's ok to let the girls go.

[CreateNinnov8]

Day3: the 2 girls from pervious night left late afternoon after a couple of during the morning. Rested for the night.

Day4: The girl from day 1 got her friend (plump, huge boobs. Not my type honestly) along for the night.

Had 2 rounds before the friend left. Nice 3 some BBJ.

Next morning my girl woke me up with a nice BBJ and left after another round in shower.

[WestCoast1]

Next morning my girl woke me up with a nice BBJ and left after another round in shower.Shame that you had to put up with that.

White is cool. Brown is warm. Red is hot. Skinny is wonderful.

Great things exist in the NCR. Keep it clean, gents.

[Dcfan77]

Can anyone confirm that LA cafe is open?

[WestCoast1]

Can anyone confirm that LA cafe is open?Several previous posts by others regarding LAC in the past few months. It appears to be back to its wicked ways. Do drop us a field report later if you visit.

[Nolz7]

Can anyone confirm that LA cafe is open?I was there last week. It was open and back to normal. In fact I was the only one masking. Few lookers hanging around Korean spot upstairs. A group band was playing 80's song. No entrance fee when I got up there at around 9 PM.

[D Cups]

Can anyone confirm that LA cafe is open?Yes it is open. I was there on Monday and picked up two girls to take to H20 Hotel. Then I saw one of them the next day and the other one the day after. 3 K short time. Nice ball sucking BBBJ cum on tongue videos with great massage after. The one with the big tits was a terrific porn star. YMMV. They were both 6's at best in looks but quite enthusiastic in performance. I may see the one with the big tits again before I go back to Duma. She seems to enjoy the money shot. Cheers.

[Docwiltro]

Can anyone confirm that LA cafe is open?Yes, it is, and I was told the band was pretty good.

[WestCoast1]

Can anyone confirm that LA cafe is open?


I was there last week. It was open and back to normal. In fact I was the only one masking. Few lookers hanging around Korean spot upstairs. A group band was playing 80's song. No entrance fee when I got up there at around 9 PM.


Yes, it is, and I was told the band was pretty good.Not sure if I mentioned this before, but Cowboy Grill is back up / running. Went on a Tuesday night and the place was packed, around 10 pm. Wasn't aware of it until they announced it, but Aegis (a popular pinoy band, youtube the songs 'Halik' or 'Sayang na Sayang') was playing the following night. Went again on the following Monday night at the same time, about 10:30, and there weren't 30 customers in the place. Hit / miss. Both ladies were appreciative 3 hours later. Smile.

[Shikamaru1993]

I like full GFE.

And I like things to be organized and I love a girl coming to pick me up.

Yet I am not going to meet her again on m next trip. YOLO.I agree. Although I would like to know your technique and methods to pick the right one on PinaLove out of hundreds available.

[Phil65]

I got into City Garden Grand last night but was too wiped after the long flight to head out. Getting old sucks.

Immigration was a breeze. No line at the qr code station or at immigration. Maybe 5 min total. Metered taxi about half the cost of fixed rate cab.

About 15 minutes from airport to hotel.

I am meeting a pinalove girl tonight (I hope it's a girl anyway).

Good to be back.

[Phil65]

I arrived on Friday and met up with a girl I was chatting with on pina. We was about 20, very petite (small breasts). Nice enough. Arrived on time at City Garden Grand.

Pretty much a starfish in bed but ok. As usual, the photos way better than real life. But got the job done, she left after about an hour.

I met her in the lobby at about 10 pm. No problems getting her in. No ID or vax check by hotel.

On Sunday, the typhoon warnings hit Makati. I called up one the massage agencies found on a website. It was after midnight and the hotel needed her ID. No issues going up though.

The nuru massage was 3000 for 2 hrs. I asked about full service and she asked for 8000 p. That was insane. I declined and opted for he at 2000 p.

I overpaid but it was a typhoon and late. She was attractive enough and the massage was good but I am guessing that may be the standard tip for FS.

[Escort Fan]

I've been a frequent visitor of the Philippines for the past 15 years and for the first time since a long time ago I got scammed multiple times.

In this post pandemic world the rules have changed. Many girls do require downpayment (up to 30 or 40%) and at minimum they require 1 K advance to pay for their grab and to send via paypal or Gcash. (BTW that's another issue but WTF now I have grab rides that cost me up to 700 pesos when before it would never go above 400!

I can understand where it's coming from, if a girl QC rides a grab to fake meet or something or the guy is gone, or the guy tries to renegociate once the girl has arrived etc.

Before I used to send a pre paid Grab, until I realized that for privacy reason it sucks as it show my name on the driver screen:).

Note that I mostly date girls that I find on Instagram, twitter, TikTok or even FB.

Of course, you're going to say screw that you'll find girls that don't require advance payment. And it's a possibility.

But a few of the best meetings I had recently were with girl to whom I have sent 1 K or more via Gcash as a down payment. So each time I'm thinking maybe I'm passing on a great meet:).

I don't mind losing 1 K (it happened FIVE times this month) what depresses me is that I didn't analyze the situation properly though the girl was legit. And at the same time I'm shocked the girl isn't even willing to ride the grab I just paid her and earn an extra 10 K (yes I know it's high but that's the minimum going rate for -semi- high end girls, car show girls, wannabe models etc) and instead settle for scamming 1 K! What a lack of ambition!

I even got the case of a girl I chatted on SA for MONTHS, she's a former Solaire dealer, and ultimately, she opted to scam me for 1 K! I was shocked! So much effort to scam such a small amount. What are they thinking.

Has anyone faced the same issues as I did or do you stick with girls that don't require DP?

[WestCoast1]

And at the same time I'm shocked the girl isn't even willing to ride the grab I just paid her and earn an extra 10 K (yes I know it's high but that's the minimum going rate for -semi- high end girls, car show girls, wannabe models etc) and instead settle for scamming 1 K! What a lack of ambition!

I even got the case of a girl I chatted on SA for MONTHS, she's a former Solaire dealer, and ultimately, she opted to scam me for 1 K! I was shocked! So much effort to scam such a small amount. What are they thinking.Westy says: Filipinas are of typically different mind-set. They can only see the here, now, or immediate future (the next few hours). If she got your 1 K and now has enough to Jolliebee and shabu both herself and her boyfie, she can spend the next few hours high, with a full tummy, and sexing the boy she loves.

You say: But Westy, if she came for the p10 K she could buy a LOT more shabu and food, and pay the rent. What is she THINKING!

Westy says: Her mind might see it (in the academic), but that's not how she will necessarily react. Your logic and her 'whatever-goes-thru-her-head' might be far apart.

Also keep this in mind. If she is willing to cheat you out of a quick p1 k for taxi fare, she's also scamming you with a p10 K request for high-end service. Anyone looking for a quick, low-end payout (such as p1 K) is also willing to dicker down to much lower than she's asking.

While you are a fan of escorts, there are other point-shoot options easily available in the bars for the same price, where you can sit and chat the hottie in your lap over a drink, and be sure of getting some service (quality unknown prior to f*cking, as with all girls). Hit-and-miss is part of the escort experience, especially for pre-paid. Please see the similar chat from Goferring and myself in the OTHER AREAS thread.

[Goferring]

...And at the same time I'm shocked the girl isn't even willing to ride the grab I just paid her and earn an extra 10 K (yes I know it's high but that's the minimum going rate for -semi- high end girls, car show girls, wannabe models etc) and instead settle for scamming 1 K! What a lack of ambition!

Has anyone faced the same issues as I did or do you stick with girls that don't require DP?

The stunner set receive literally thousands of messages a day. It's a numbers game. Even if the tiniest percentage of these guys are sending her fake deposits to meet, taxi fares or medicine for grandma, then she is still making far more than actually turning up to one meet and fuck.

Sorry to say this, but you were but one in the queue.

That's the reason I never pay a deposit.

Cheers. G.

[Goferring]

That's the reason I never pay a deposit.

Cheers. G.P.S. If you want to be a Baller (and there is nothing wrong with that). There are numerous options to meet 10 k girls face to face and even post pay.

Take it or leave it prepay ultimatums scream scammer to me so just move to the next hottie.

[Escort Fan]

P.S. If you want to be a Baller (and there is nothing wrong with that). There are numerous options to meet 10 k girls face to face and even post pay.

Take it or leave it prepay ultimatums scream scammer to me so just move to the next hottie.Also one of the funny part is that I talked to a few girls, that laughed at my 10 K offer just linda Evangelista famously said "I don't get out of bed for less than 10,000 USD a day".

Well there are quite a lot of girls in MNL that don't get out of bed for 10,000 php.

That's fucking insane. I mean after two years of pandemy I thought everyone would be chasing pesos. I was so fucking wrong.

Until 2022 no girls would ever reject my relatively generous offers.

The amusing part, is the girls I'm talking to, locals represents 90% if not more of their clientele. Rich locals wouldn't touch a burgos girl even with a 10 ft pole.

They need a nice story of a girl from a good family that needs money to finance her medical studies, or her law degree.

Come on mate, I'm far from being a "baller" giving 10 K per night, that's not even 200 € or USD.

I've talked to "handlers" that offered me actresses or FHM type models, the rates are between 50 K and 100 K pesos. And probably higher for superstars like famous ones!

[PedroMorales]

Note that I mostly date girls that I find on Instagram, twitter, TikTok or even FB.

I even got the case of a girl I chatted on SA for MONTHS, she's a former Solaire dealer, and ultimately, she opted to scam me for 1 K! I was shocked! So much effort to scam such a small amount. What are they thinking.
?Do you get women through those social media outlets? I have seen hookers with saucy ads but never imagined it was "mainstream". I guess if one digs deep, I know of the walking girls on FB but I would not have the patience.

I guess Casino girl could be explained by her getting a fuck it, why go? Moment between getting the cash and getting the grab. You are talking about low level hucksterism here, and with hookers in general, so they vary form "poor but mostly honest" to entire see rooks who should be put down. Much like the endless talk here about service and value for money, Many just want to hit the pillow and sleep. Even in bed, they go the whole range from corpse to out right live wire animal.

[Goferring]

The amusing part, is the girls I'm talking to, locals represents 90% if not more of their clientele. Rich locals wouldn't touch a burgos girl even with a 10 ft pole.

They need a nice story of a girl from a good family that needs money to finance her medical studies, or her law degree.

Come on mate, I'm far from being a "baller" giving 10 K per night, that's not even 200 or USD.

I've talked to "handlers" that offered me actresses or FHM type models, the rates are between 50 K and 100 K pesos. And probably higher for superstars like famous ones!Congrats. You're the first monger I've spoken with that understands this. Most consider that foreigners are taking the cream of the crop, not realising that we are actually firmly in the middle ground: too scared to go down skid road and not invited to the top end of town.

As you said Industrialists' sons would not be seen dead with the dark skinned, impoverished, illiterate farmers daughters that make up the bulk of foreigner "high end" Gogo's. They think nothing of dropping cars, apartment leases and Business Class airfares on truly stunning girls. Said girls would regard 10 k as barely enough for a lunchtime snack.

No offence intended with the "baller" term. I was just using to distinguish the 10 k market from the 1 k short timers.

Enjoy. G.

[Sammon]

Arrived in Manila after a stopover for few days in Istanbul. When I was checking in at IST airport the girl would not let me check in because I did not have a negative PCR test. I showed her one health pass saying cleared to board. But nasty girl would not bother to check or ask supervisor. I guess she hated me for whatever reason. Did not know what to do. Joined another line in a different counter and that time did not have any problems. The guy did not ask for anything. I had some trouble getting one health pass. Had to repeat three times and finally got it. On boarding they ask for the vaccination card. Arriving Manila first they check one health pass. Immigration was quick. Taxi to Manila hotel, Rizal Park. Although supposed to be a regular meter taxi he said fixed price of 800 pesos. I told him I am not paying more than 400 whether he turns meter on or not. At last he accepted grumbling about traffic and why needs the money. In in my one ear and out the other.

Manila Hotel has been refurbished. Nice hotel and room. One of my DIA girls is supposedly to meet me at the airport. When texted complained she does not any money and I need to send money for her fare which I had refused before. Anyway one of my back up agreed to meet me at the hotel. Pic attached. Nice girl from Mindanao working as a sales girl in a mall. Pleasant pleasing nature. Had three shots and left early morning because she had to be at work at 7 am.

[Pute Nut]

When I was checking in at IST airport the girl would not let me check in because I did not have a negative PCR test. I showed her one health pass saying cleared to board. But nasty girl would not bother to check or ask supervisor. I guess she hated me for whatever reason. Did not know what to do. Joined another line in a different counter and that time did not have any problems. The guy did not ask for anything.Check-in staff often make up their own rules, or have old non-updated rules that they follow. Alternativelu, if they've had a bad day they may just want to fuck with you. So it's better to come preperad, "PUBLIC ADVISORY No. 25 on COVID-19 TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS TO THE PHILIPPINES EFFECTIVE 30 MAY 2022" (issued by the PH consulate in Houston) clearly states that you may enter without a test if you are fully vaccinated AND boostered. I carried a print with the relevant portions highlighted. I didn't have to use that print, but it's cheap insurance. A supervisor with some brains may overrule an idiotic check-in agent after reading an official document.

[Sammon]

Morning was spent with usual manicure, pedicure, facial and hot stone massage. Took a nice nap after. Another DIA girl was supposed to come at 4 pm but went to wrong hotel. Ended up getting her in the room at 6 pm.

Pretty face with nice set of firm boobs. Love to cuddle. She did everything to make me happy. This one is also from Mindanao. She said in Mindanao they do not pay well for jobs. This one is working in the factory. Took the day off to be with me she says. Total GFE. And zero smell in pussy which I like. Although agreed price was 2500 I gave 3000 and some Knick knacks, candy.

I had no less than 6 girls from DIA who wanted to stay with me. Weeded out to select the best ones. I had two scamsters who asked money to be sent for transportation but I told them no chance of that. For me DIA has been a gold mine to go to and I have gotten some excellent girls.

Took Air Asia flight to cebu this morning. How do they find the prettiest girls as air hostesses?

Staying at waterfront, lahug. Had arranged a girl to meet me at the airport who is from Lapulapu but I bailed out. Two girls really drained me and needed a break today.

[VictorHugo999]

Hi Mr S.

Quite envious of your escapades with 3! Shots!

Not sure how young you are at this moment.

Victor.


Arrived in Manila after a stopover for few days in Istanbul. When I was checking in at IST airport the girl would not let me check in because I did not have a negative PCR test. I showed her one health pass saying cleared to board. But nasty girl would not bother to check or ask supervisor. I guess she hated me for whatever reason. Did not know what to do. Joined another line in a different counter and that time did not have any problems. The guy did not ask for anything. I had some trouble getting one health pass. Had to repeat three times and finally got it. On boarding they ask for the vaccination card. Arriving Manila first they check one health pass. Immigration was quick. Taxi to Manila hotel, Rizal Park. Although supposed to be a regular meter taxi he said fixed price of 800 pesos. I told him I am not paying more than 400 whether he turns meter on or not. At last he accepted grumbling about traffic and why needs the money. In in my one ear and out the other.

Manila Hotel has been refurbished. Nice hotel and room. One of my DIA girls is supposedly to meet me at the airport. When texted complained she does not any money and I need to send money for her fare which I had refused before. Anyway one of my back up agreed to meet me at the hotel. Pic attached. Nice girl from Mindanao working as a sales girl in a mall. Pleasant pleasing nature. Had three shots and left early morning because she had to be at work at 7 am.

[Kforab]

Hi Mr S.

Quite envious of your escapades with 3! Shots!

Not sure how young you are at this moment.

Victor.Please tell me what's DIA. Thanks!

[MikeBen78]

Please tell me what's DIA. Thanks!Dating in Asia, it's a dating website.

[Sammon]

Bought the girl a jollebee dinner and let her do her own thing and went to the middle eastern restaurant to have dinner. After that checked out L A cafe. This was Sunday night at 10 pm.

Full of smoke. I thought smoking was not allowed inside restaurants and bars. However sat through one beer. Very light crowd maybe because it was Sunday. Few girls. Lots of men. Did not see any lookers. They said band will play later upstairs. None of the girls approached me or the couple of guys in neighboring tables. I was ready to check out the prices by talking to them. So I stayed half an hour inhaling all the unwanted smoke and left.

[Drbombay]

Bought the girl a jollebee dinner and let her do her own thing and went to the middle eastern restaurant to have dinner. After that checked out L A cafe. This was Sunday night at 10 pm.

Full of smoke. I thought smoking was not allowed inside restaurants and bars. However sat through one beer. Very light crowd maybe because it was Sunday. Few girls. Lots of men. Did not see any lookers. They said band will play later upstairs. None of the girls approached me or the couple of guys in neighboring tables. I was ready to check out the prices by talking to them. So I stayed half an hour inhaling all the unwanted smoke and left.I was in LA Cafe a couple of weeks ago and pulled a plain Jane type, who needed money to get to her new job in Hong Kong as a domestic nanny. At least she had some hustle in her since she explained the agent could pay her way, but the interest charges would eat up her salary. Actually, was a nice lady and wound up staying the night and wish I would have had more time with her but that was my last night in town and I flew out that next morning.

Buddy of mine just gave me a report on Maison. Anyone ever been there? He was there last night and on a Monday night at least 49 single women available to choose from. Makes me mad I missed that one!

[WestCoast1]

Buddy of mine just gave me a report on Maison. Anyone ever been there? He was there last night and on a Monday night at least 49 single women available to choose from. Makes me mad I missed that one!Maison. When it re-opened as Bourbon some months back, as you entered the front door, the old long dance stage, running front-to-back (and parallel to Badajos St) was gone. There was a new wall, cutting the bar in half, running perpendicular to Badajos, with a door. You walk thru the door, and the new stage was in the far rear of the bar (where the old Bourbon DJ / CR area was), running perpendicular to Badajos. 2-ish months ago they took out the wall. Now the place is one huge room again, like the old days. That's the layout.

My experiences in it since re-opening are all the same. Bit pushy from the mama and girls to buy them drinks. There are a LOT of girls in there, and rarely more than a few guys there (in fact never saw 5 guys in the place at the same time. Majority of girls are a bit overweight. There are still plenty of lookers, due to the large number of girls. Just estimating, 40-50 girls most nights. The number of girls has been increasing for months.

Recently inside I noticed two of the former Lion's Pride (formerly WowWow) bar girls inside (the entire time LP was operating, I only saw 2 attractive girls worth doing). One of the former LP girls went from working at LP its last operational evening, to dancing on the stage at Maison 2 nights later (average face, killer hard bod).

[Bbsin26]

Hi fellas,

I'm in manila currently. Anyone know of some good spots or bars to hit up? I've been to LA Cafe and I used to go to AirforceOne but that's apparently closed now. I'm also seeing that EDSA complex in pasay is also shut down.

[AsianPursuits]

Hi fellas,

I'm in manila currently. Anyone know of some good spots or bars to hit up? I've been to LA Cafe and I used to go to AirforceOne but that's apparently closed now. I'm also seeing that EDSA complex in pasay is also shut down.Have you tried the bars listed in this forum thread?

[WestCoast1]

Fold one in half and have at it.

[Dazhiba]

Thinking about a trip there in a few weeks. What, if any, are the restrictions or mask requirements? I have heard different things.

TIA.

[Dg8787]

Thinking about a trip there in a few weeks. What, if any, are the restrictions or mask requirements? I have heard different things.

TIA.Some require and some don't.

Definitely no mask required to dine at the why!

[WestCoast1]

Thinking about a trip there in a few weeks. What, if any, are the restrictions or mask requirements? I have heard different things.

TIA.Not sure of airline mask policies, you should contact your airline. Mask requirements in-country for public places were lifted weeks ago. No longer needed indoors or outdoors. However businesses can set their own rules. Hence, if the guard at this or that business denies you entry until you put on a mask, then just put the stupid thing on (that includes a mall, and that includes even if he is wrong). Arguing just delays yours (and others) entry.

OTOH, masks are still required in all PUV (tryke, motorella, moto-taxi, jeeps, regular taxi, Grab taxi, and pedicabs, to name a few).

[Dazhiba]

Not sure of airline mask policies, you should contact your airline. Mask requirements in-country for public places were lifted weeks ago. No longer needed indoors or outdoors. However businesses can set their own rules. Hence, if the guard at this or that business denies you entry until you put on a mask, then just put the stupid thing on (that includes a mall, and that includes even if he is wrong). Arguing just delays yours (and others) entry.

OTOH, masks are still required in all PUV (tryke, motorella, moto-taxi, jeeps, regular taxi, Grab taxi, and pedicabs, to name a few).Thanks gents, I'll be posting here soon.

[GoodEnough]

Thanks gents, I'll be posting here soon.Mask requirements will also vary depending on local city rules / practices. Here in Davao, for whatever reason, everyone is still wearing a mask in malls and shops. I don't think it's a city requirement, but it's a habit that's become ingrained. I was in Abreeza (Ayala) Mall last week in the Apple Store and realized that I had left my mask in the car, which struck me as I observed everyone else was wearing one. The young woman at the sales desk was happy to provide me with a new mask, which I did put on though no one required me to do so. Conversely, when I was in Angeles a few weeks ago I saw very few people wearing masks anywhere. I believe that, nationwide, masks are still required in airports and on flights. On my recent flights to and from Davao via PAL, everyone in the airports and on the planes was masked.

GE.

[WestCoast1]

Mask requirements will also vary depending on local city rules / practices. Here in Davao, for whatever reason, everyone is still wearing a mask in malls and shops. I don't think it's a city requirement, but it's a habit that's become ingrained. I was in Abreeza (Ayala) Mall last week in the Apple Store and realized that I had left my mask in the car, which struck me as I observed everyone else was wearing one. The young woman at the sales desk was happy to provide me with a new mask, which I did put on though no one required me to do so. Conversely, when I was in Angeles a few weeks ago I saw very few people wearing masks anywhere. I believe that, nationwide, masks are still required in airports and on flights. On my recent flights to and from Davao via PAL, everyone in the airports and on the planes was masked.

GE.I was in AC about the same time as you. I continue to maintain that AC is an odd island in the country. Only about half the people were wearing a mask, and of the ones who were, many were wearing it below the chin. This was at a time just after the President dropped masks for outdoors, so that made sense. Upon return to NCR a week after, there was a clear delineation. Everyone was wearing a mask (on occasion on Burgos I'd see 1-2 foreigners walking together and not wearing a mask, and on occasion I also skipped taking a mask outside with me).

Upon arriving in the province, about 95% are still wearing a mask. A few weeks ago one of the malls dropped its mask-entrance requirement, and nothing changed; everyone is still wearing a mask on the street and in the mall (have not see anyone not wearing a mask in any of 4 malls).

Had coffee with a mate last week. He is a solid anti-masker in theory and in his heart. Yet I never see him anywhere without his mask, including outdoors. There is no reason to wear a mask in the coffee shop, nor in the mall where the shop is. As we rose to depart we both grabbed our masks and put them on. I inquired: Why are you still wearing a mask? The mall and store don't require it. The government dropped it inside and out. Why? "Habit. I feel naked without it. I can't stop the feeling. Two years of this. I hate it". Off we went, him fully masked, with mine below my nose. * Everyone else in the mall had a mask on properly.

When is a pandemic over? How long after the government drops its mask mandate do people actually do it?

Another reason I hate the mask: I love pinay faces. Beautiful. And the room lights up when they sing or smile. Can't see it anymore. And the one's I haven't met, I want to see their full faces. Exotic, can only see their eyes. Makes me want them all the more. They show their tummy, but not their face. Sexual hypocrisy?

* A completely useless gesture, wearing a mask under my nose, as even if I had any infection, the mask would be of little mitigating help to anyone. Like a blind man, in a dark room, chasing a black cat, that isn't really there.

[AsianPursuits]

I inquired: Why are you still wearing a mask? The mall and store don't require it. The government dropped it inside and out. Why? "Habit. I feel naked without it. I can't stop the feeling. Two years of this. I hate it". Off we went, him fully masked, with mine below my nose. * Everyone else in the mall had a mask on properly.
It' going to be a long time in Ph that's for sure. I miss the smile sin the malls.

Back home we are about 20% of people wearing masks.

[Ollie69]

Hi fellow mongers!

I haven't been in the Philippines since March 2020.

So please give me the going rate for FLs ST / LT:

*LA Cafe and Maison in Manila.

*High Society in Angeles.

*Big Apple in Sabang.

Please don't give me no "RTFF! I did and could find any quotes.

[Dg8787]

Hi fellow mongers!

I haven't been in the Philippines since March 2020.

So please give me the going rate for FLs ST / LT:

*LA Cafe and Maison in Manila.

*High Society in Angeles.

*Big Apple in Sabang.

Please don't give me no "RTFF! I did and could find any quotes.What do you want? The Golden Dildo award?

High Society in AC prices hasn't changed. Don't bother to RTFF nothing has changed.

I can’t speak on the rest.

[WestCoast1]

Hi fellow mongers!

I haven't been in the Philippines since March 2020.

So please give me the going rate for FLs ST / LT:

*LA Cafe and Maison in Manila.

*High Society in Angeles.

*Big Apple in Sabang.

Please don't give me no "RTFF! I did and could find any quotes.The only constants are the gogos. Barfines on Burgos are about the same as before pandemic, currently (p3500-4000) + tip (negosyo, 3-5 k in the morning, while dickering before leaving the bar). I believe that this has been discussed in the past 6 months on the Board. Just like before pandemic, gogo girls will not agree to barfine with you until an agreement is made regarding tomorrow morning's tip.

Barfines in AC have jumped since pandemic to p3000-5000 (WS / Fields area) and p2200-2500 (Perimeter) for LT, no tip required. This has been discussed in the past 6 months on the Board.

No fast / simple rule on FL. From both Burgos to LAC, prices vary wildly by girl and night of the week. The same girl might insist on p3000 for a 2-hour 1-pop ST today, and be giddy happy with 1000 the next day for a 3-hour 2-pop ST. I found many girls asking a high ST price (3000 now, vs the pre-pandemic 1500-2000), then quickly dropping their price.

[Ollie69]

The only constants are the gogos. Barfines on Burgos are about the same as before pandemic, currently (p3500-4000) + tip (negosyo, 3-5 k in the morning, while dickering before leaving the bar). I believe that this has been discussed in the past 6 months on the Board. Just like before pandemic, gogo girls will not agree to barfine with you until an agreement is made regarding tomorrow morning's tip.

Barfines in AC have jumped since pandemic to p3000-5000 (WS / Fields area) and p2200-2500 (Perimeter) for LT, no tip required. This has been discussed in the past 6 months on the Board.

No fast / simple rule on FL. From both Burgos to LAC, prices vary wildly by girl and night of the week. The same girl might insist on p3000 for a 2-hour 1-pop ST today, and be giddy happy with 1000 the next day for a 3-hour 2-pop ST. I found many girls asking a high ST price (3000 now, vs the pre-pandemic 1500-2000), then quickly dropping their price.Thank you for clear update!

[Ollie69]

I have tried to go to Maison or Casa a few times. I never did, because I never found it. Sad but true. Does anyone have the actual address, or a landmark in the immedia vicinity?

[WestCoast1]

I have tried to go to Maison or Casa a few times. I never did, because I never found it. Sad but true. Does anyone have the actual address, or a landmark in the immedia vicinity?Ollie, what's wrong with this picture?


Hi fellow mongers! I haven't been in the Philippines since March 2020. So please give me the going rate for FLs ST / LT: Please don't give me no "RTFF! I did and could find any quotes.


I searched this thread but couldn't find any info on BJ bars in BKK. So guys please don't shrug me off with "read prior posts!

I'd appreciate basic info on places and price range.


I'm switching from Ko Samui to Pattaya on January 10th. Never been there before. I prefer multi-day FL to ST. Where would I find FL in Pattaya?

Planning to book a hotel at Pattaya beach, such as Discovery.


We'll be in Ko Samui for the 2 first weeks of January. I hope we can enjoy, with no horrid rains and some nice gals. Had we realized that bars weren't open we wouldn't have booked.

It's our first time in Thailand. We usually monger in the Philippines.

So tell me, my friends; where can we find some pussy? We prefer GFE for multiple days. Since we won't find FL in bars, where do we monger? Restaurants? Shopping malls? Or better online at Thai Friendly?

And please give me a few quoted for ST, LT and multi-day. I really don't know the going prices there.


Next week, I'll be up in Barrio Barretta again, this time for a week.

Now I do have a few questions.

1. how much is transfer from NAIA? -ICove hotel has no hotel-shuttle van and asks 4500 one way. -my rental car is 9000 p. Week, so I'd rather extend a be fully mobile! 2. Club scene in Olongapo. 3. Decent restaurants in Olongapo to dinner with a sweet girl (no bar girl).You haven't posted a descriptive field report since 2009 (some pix). Mostly you just have questions you want answered. You tell us where you are going, ask a bunch of questions, and don't provide any feedback from your trips that will help the fellas. For your next trip: Where did you stay, and at what approximate cost? Where did you pull your girls, and at what approximate cost? What were the barfine or FL prices? What restaurants did you like or dislike? And so on.

I will tell you where Maison is after you post an informative FR on your next trip (there are descriptive reports on Maison in the Makati thread, including mine, if you'd RTFF). 21 posts in 14 years, mostly questions. We call this taking without giving.

[Goferring]

Ollie, what's wrong with this picture?
To be fair, Ollie is asking some highly technical questions that take years of research to solve: where is a BJ Bar in BKK, where to find a freelancer in Pattaya, how to get laid in Thailand.

Looks like he's been unable to solve those complex riddles so has moved on to the Philippines.

[Dg8787]

To be fair, Ollie is asking some highly technical questions that take years of research to solve: where is a BJ Bar in BKK, where to find a freelancer in Pattaya, how to get laid in Thailand.

Looks like he's been unable to solve those complex riddles so has moved on to the Philippines.Please take him back to Thailand until he can master the pussy hunt. PH is way too complex for him and no reports to speak off.

The concept of asking a taxi driver for LA Cafe location is way too technical for him.

[TopalMan]

Hello all, I will be visiting Manila for the first time and looking for some pricing bench marks for people experienced with SA.

Searching through this thread, I am seeing FL quotes between 2-4 K PHP for ST. I have been messaging some girls on SA, and they are balking at 5 K for ST PPM meetings. Some girls have asked for even as high as 20 K for ST and commonly get asked for 10 k. Is this now the going rates for SA?

[Member #2718]

Is EDSA back up and running? I used to love the girls at Casino and the Firehouse.

[Goferring]

Hello all, I will be visiting Manila for the first time and looking for some pricing bench marks for people experienced with SA.

Searching through this thread, I am seeing FL quotes between 2-4 K PHP for ST. I have been messaging some girls on SA, and they are balking at 5 K for ST PPM meetings. Some girls have asked for even as high as 20 K for ST and commonly get asked for 10 k. Is this now the going rates for SA?When are you thinking of arriving? Most have found prices are heavily discounted for those actually here now vs arriving next week / month / maybe never. 50% is common and roughly matches the numbers you have received for "later".

Remember that hot girls know that 99.99% of contacts never eventuate and are only fishing exercises for photos, vidsex etc. "Come over tonight" has a lot more meaning to them.

[WestCoast1]

Searching through this thread, I am seeing FL quotes between 2-4 K PHP for ST. I have been messaging some girls on SA, and they are balking at 5 K for ST PPM meetings. Some girls have asked for even as high as 20 K for ST and commonly get asked for 10 k. Is this now the going rates for SA?The FL quotes you are getting are correct initial requests, and can be negotiated down a tad. However its important to note that if they are from us, its quite possible they include LAC and Burgos St girls, who are possibly less attractive and go for lower amounts. SA girls might be the younger / guapa types who would command more. However, Goferring is correct, everything changes when the girl thinks your boots have touched pinoy concrete.

[Cloe Stone]

Have been to Manila many times and always stay in Makati. Burgos Street has not been very good for many years now, so I thought I would take a chance and try Ermita and LA Cafe. Have read a lot about LA Cafe over the years, yet never checked it out because I would rather just pull a cute girl from Burgos or EDSA. Thanks to the recent posts regarding City Garden Suites. Nice, simple hotel, good location.

After a month in Thailand, mostly Pattaya, my expectations were not that high for LA Cafe, so I was good either way. Anyway, here is my review:

Ermita Neighborhood.

Quaint, yet a little not the place I wanted to be roaming around on my own at night.

LA Cafe.

Small, Quaint Place. Smaller and a bit more lower-end than I expected, yet this was a pleasant surprise.

Arrived on a Saturday Night, just after midnight. The place was full, yet not overly busy. Was informed by staff that Friday Night was the busiest night of the week. As I entered the main room, when to the bar to get a drink and bartender got a waitress to take my drink order and they got me a chair so I ended up sitting at the bar. Was sitting near the area that the servers ordered drinks and began to look around. Nice to see many ladies looking my way with smiles and inviting looks.

Relaxed for a few minutes in my seat and awaited an indication on payment for the drink. I eventually got the attention of the server and asked for a "check bin" after ordering an additional drink, so I could walk around and check this place out. The server seemed a bit disappointed that I was "cashing out". Gave her a 50 peso tip and she was happy.

Proceeded to walk around to see what was out there. Not much going on in the main area or side areas on first level. Proceeded upstairs, where there was an average sounding cover band performing. There were more ladies upstairs, mostly either sitting down or standing around looking for guys to talk with. A couple of ladies had an extra spot with a good view of the room and band, so I sat to relax and observe.

Initial observation was it seemed like a bar full of Pro's, Pros. There were a few that seemed on the more innocent side, but mostly Pro's.

Chatted and bought drinks for a few girls, found one I liked and was eventually brought into the inner circle of other "regulars" that were still hoping to hook a customer. Drank, enjoyed live band. The girl I ended up with was cute, 25 years old, and 5 feet tall, about 90 pounds. Stayed all night at hotel, two pops.

Would go back to this place, but nothing all that special. Pattaya is a much better option, yet I like Filapinas.

Aloha,

CS.

[CoolDumble]

Have been to Manila many times and always stay in Makati. Burgos Street has not been very good for many years now, so I thought I would take a chance and try Ermita and LA Cafe. Have read a lot about LA Cafe over the years, yet never checked it out because I would rather just pull a cute girl from Burgos or EDSA. Thanks to the recent posts regarding City Garden Suites. Nice, simple hotel, good location.

After a month in Thailand, mostly Pattaya, my expectations were not that high for LA Cafe, so I was good either way. Anyway, here is my review:

Ermita Neighborhood.

Quaint, yet a little not the place I wanted to be roaming around on my own at night.

LA Cafe.

Small, Quaint Place. Smaller and a bit more lower-end than I expected, yet this was a pleasant surprise.

Arrived on a Saturday Night, just after midnight. The place was full, yet not overly busy. Was informed by staff that Friday Night was the busiest night of the week. As I entered the main room, when to the bar to get a drink and bartender got a waitress to take my drink order and they got me a chair so I ended up sitting at the bar. Was sitting near the area that the servers ordered drinks and began to look around. Nice to see many ladies looking my way with smiles and inviting looks.

Relaxed for a few minutes in my seat and awaited an indication on payment for the drink. I eventually got the attention of the server and asked for a "check bin" after ordering an additional drink, so I could walk around and check this place out. The server seemed a bit disappointed that I was "cashing out". Gave her a 50 peso tip and she was happy.

Proceeded to walk around to see what was out there. Not much going on in the main area or side areas on first level. Proceeded upstairs, where there was an average sounding cover band performing. There were more ladies upstairs, mostly either sitting down or standing around looking for guys to talk with. A couple of ladies had an extra spot with a good view of the room and band, so I sat to relax and observe.

Initial observation was it seemed like a bar full of Pro's, Pros. There were a few that seemed on the more innocent side, but mostly Pro's.

Chatted and bought drinks for a few girls, found one I liked and was eventually brought into the inner circle of other "regulars" that were still hoping to hook a customer. Drank, enjoyed live band. The girl I ended up with was cute, 25 years old, and 5 feet tall, about 90 pounds. Stayed all night at hotel, two pops.

Would go back to this place, but nothing all that special. Pattaya is a much better option, yet I like Filapinas.

Aloha,

CS.Great Report. How much was the damage for the all nighter?

[GDreams]

Have been to Manila many times and always stay in Makati. Burgos Street has not been very good for many years now, so I thought I would take a chance and try Ermita and LA Cafe. Have read a lot about LA Cafe over the years, yet never checked it out because I would rather just pull a cute girl from Burgos or EDSA. Thanks to the recent posts regarding City Garden Suites. Nice, simple hotel, good location.

After a month in Thailand, mostly Pattaya, my expectations were not that high for LA Cafe, so I was good either way. Anyway, here is my review:

Ermita Neighborhood.

Quaint, yet a little not the place I wanted to be roaming around on my own at night.

LA Cafe.

I usually stay in Malate next door. I like to hang at Robinsons and there are a lot of restaurants to my taste.

The LA Cafe area is definitely a low end area. I have been there a few times but don't like the vibe and most of the girls are 30+ or ugly.

Plenty of better talent on the dating sites.

[WestCoast1]

A solid repeater is worth her weight in silver. You know exactly what you are getting every time. Now get in there and do some damage.

The vaxxing continues.

[PhalloCentrist]

Maison bar fine. FR below.

[Emale]

Is EDSA back up and running? I used to love the girls at Casino and the Firehouse.The EDSA clubs no longer exist, they have been relegated to history. The building is gone. The street is still there.

[SoberHans69]

Are there any decent clubs in Manila / Makati for picking up freelancers, similar to Ibar in Pattaya or Levels in Bangkok?

I've only been to Manila once a few years before the pandemic and visited LA Cafe which wasn't very impressive.

Thanks.

[WestCoast1]

Are there any decent clubs in Manila / Makati for picking up freelancers, similar to Ibar in Pattaya or Levels in Bangkok?

I've only been to Manila once a few years before the pandemic and visited LA Cafe which wasn't very impressive.Royal Club in Makati, on Gen Luna St, between Makati Ave and Gramercy Residences. Multiple reports of such in the Makati thread. Its a regular bar, with a mix of pro's / semi-pro's tossed in. You pay a consumable fee upon entry, get your own table, then consume food / drink till you've hit your entry fee limit. I think that's how it works (caveat: never been there, but others have reported on the place and had success).

[SoberHans69]

Royal Club in Makati, on Gen Luna St, between Makati Ave and Gramercy Residences. Multiple reports of such in the Makati thread. Its a regular bar, with a mix of pro's / semi-pro's tossed in. You pay a consumable fee upon entry, get your own table, then consume food / drink till you've hit your entry fee limit. I think that's how it works (caveat: never been there, but others have reported on the place and had success).Thanks for the reply, appreciate it.

[Issaquah]

Royal Club in Makati, on Gen Luna St, between Makati Ave and Gramercy Residences. Multiple reports of such in the Makati thread. Its a regular bar, with a mix of pro's / semi-pro's tossed in. You pay a consumable fee upon entry, get your own table, then consume food / drink till you've hit your entry fee limit. I think that's how it works (caveat: never been there, but others have reported on the place and had success).WestCoast is correct. I can confirm as I've been there many times. A mix of pro's, semi-pro's, and sometimes regular women. The entrance fee you pay is for one ticket which you can exchange for a drink and you are welcome to use any of the standup tables that aren't reserved. If you want to sit at a table then you pay varying amounts based on location and size. The entry fee is fully consumable, if you exceed the limit you can buy more food / drinks. However, you don't get a refund of any unused entry fee at the end of the night. If you know you have extra consumables just invite one or a dozen of the many women around to help you consume and have fun from there.

[Radical Guy]

I'll be staying overnight at the New Coast hotel on my way back from Boracay, then flying back home the next day. I don't like bars, but was hoping to find a freelancer in or near Robinson's Place. A few years ago, the mall and surrounding area was swarming with freelance girls, many quite hot. What's the present freelance situation like in that area?

[LuvChicas]

I'll be staying overnight at the New Coast hotel on my way back from Boracay, then flying back home the next day. I don't like bars, but was hoping to find a freelancer in or near Robinson's Place. A few years ago, the mall and surrounding area was swarming with freelance girls, many quite hot. What's the present freelance situation like in that area?Last year, a few times I went inside Robinson's it was scarce finding a freelance girl. But outside on the corner, across from McDonald's you can some girls in the afternoon. And for sure late in the night, from 8 p-2 a. But when dealing with the girls, also expect dealing with a mamasam or pimp. Who will always want a piece of the action! In fact I myself will be trolling there next weekend. 🤓128526;.

[Radical Guy]

Last year, a few times I went inside Robinson's it was scarce finding a freelance girl. But outside on the corner, across from McDonald's you can some girls in the afternoon. And for sure late in the night, from 8 p-2 a. But when dealing with the girls, also expect dealing with a mamasam or pimp. Who will always want a piece of the action! In fact I myself will be trolling there next weekend. 🤓128526;.That would be perfect for me, since the New Coast is only about 2 blocks away. And paying a mamasan a finder's fee is certainly cheaper than ladies' drinks and barfines at some bar.

[Sammon]

That would be perfect for me, since the New Coast is only about 2 blocks away. And paying a mamasan a finder's fee is certainly cheaper than ladies' drinks and barfines at some bar.Need to be careful about these mamasans. Although some girls are pretty some seem underage. Check and make sure. I. the could be fake. On the other hand LA cafe girls are safe age wise.

[Radical Guy]

Need to be careful about these mamasans. Although some girls are pretty some seem underage. Check and make sure. I. the could be fake. On the other hand LA cafe girls are safe age wise.That's a good point. Several years ago, in Davao City, a mamasan (not the girl) showed me an ID for her girl indicating that the girl was 18 years old. But when I was walking with the girl to the hotel, I casually asked her about her birthdate, and she let it slip that she was only 15. I immediately turned around and took her back where I found her. I still gave her a 1,000 peso gift. Dodged that bullet.

[TheBlindBoo]

Hello!

I will be traveling to Manila for the first time and wanted to ask for some tips / sites / guides / advice on having fun in Philippines.

I am staying in Makati, Metro Manila, and I'm hoping there's some good places to check out in that area.

For reference, I have been to Pattaya and am use to that kind of environment.

Immediate questions I have:

Is there such thing as long time or short time? What's the damage for either of those generally for freelancers? Are there such things as bar fines? How about massage places? Any scams to look out for?

Generally I like to cut out the fluff and usually just picked up a freelancer in Pattaya or I'd hit up a BJ bar.

[Dg8787]

Hello!

I will be traveling to Manila for the first time and wanted to ask for some tips / sites / guides / advice on having fun in Philippines.

I am staying in Makati, Metro Manila, and I'm hoping there's some good places to check out in that area.

For reference, I have been to Pattaya and am use to that kind of environment.

Immediate questions I have:

Is there such thing as long time or short time? What's the damage for either of those generally for freelancers? Are there such things as bar fines? How about massage places? Any scams to look out for?

Generally I like to cut out the fluff and usually just picked up a freelancer in Pattaya or I'd hit up a BJ bar.Plenty of advice in the Makati thread of ISG.

[WestCoast1]

Generally I like to cut out the fluff and usually just picked up a freelancer in Pattaya or I'd hit up a BJ bar.You will need to RTFF. Read back 20-ish pages in both the Makati and Manila threads.

OTOH I have a goodie for you attached. Kind, soft, feminine, and warm. Plenty of fish to fry in the establishments mentioned in those threads.

[TroyBoy]

I just finished a two month stay in Pattaya where the dominant Freelance hookup site is Thaifriendly.com If you want to meet freelancers in Thailand you need to pay the money to upgrade from free to premium status- then learn the ins and outs of this site. Those who put the effort into understanding the ins / outs of this site reap the benefits of endless freelance options, but it does require effort. IMHO-- all the other online options are pretty much a waste of time / money for this destination.

In Colombia the best online hookup option is still Facebook by working the friends of friends network, but this requires much effort and time. If you do not have a Colombian facebook freelance network already in place then your best point / click online option is: Photoprepagos.com and mileroticos.com. - IMHO.

Here is my Question? I do not have time to build a Manila / AC facebook freelance network. I will be arriving Manila in two weeks. What is the best online freelance website or app for me to take a crash course in to be able hookup with freelancers in the Philippines (primarily Manila / AC). Is there a DOMINANT online website or app? I did not know in which forum to post this question so I will post it here in the Manila forum and AC forum. Thank you much! Troyboy (Jag on some other boards) P.S.-- I know Manila and AC well- I just have never bothered with online hookups. I think I need to expand my options.

[GDreams]

I just finished a two month stay in Pattaya where the dominant Freelance hookup site is Thaifriendly.com If you want to meet freelancers in Thailand you need to pay the money to upgrade from free to premium status- then learn the ins and outs of this site. Those who put the effort into understanding the ins / outs of this site reap the benefits of endless freelance options, but it does require effort. IMHO-- all the other online options are pretty much a waste of time / money for this destination.

In Colombia the best online hookup option is still Facebook by working the friends of friends network, but this requires much effort and time. If you do not have a Colombian facebook freelance network already in place then your best point / click online option is: Photoprepagos.com and mileroticos.com. - IMHO.

Here is my Question? I do not have time to build a Manila / AC facebook freelance network. I will be arriving Manila in two weeks. What is the best online freelance website or app for me to take a crash course in to be able hookup with freelancers in the Philippines (primarily Manila / AC). Is there a DOMINANT online website or app? I did not know in which forum to post this question so I will post it here in the Manila forum and AC forum. Thank you much! Troyboy (Jag on some other boards) P.S.-- I know Manila and AC well- I just have never bothered with online hookups. I think I need to expand my options.Pinalove, TanTan, filipinocupid, tinder, badoo.

[GDreams]

Had to bring my plans forward to visit Manila and arrived last night. Consequently my plans for a week away were scrapped. Staying in Birch Tower Malate. My normal repeat wasnt answering messages so in Taxi on way to accommodation started messaging prospects. Basically wasted several hours, All there chicks who really needed money wouldn't cooperate with me ordering a Grab, they wanted me to send money. Went for a walk to Robinsons and the freelancers were of poor quality. Got some MacDonalds and went back to the room. 10.30 my regular messaged me. She eventually turned up at 2. 30 am. I had fallen asleep waiting.

We had a shower together then Got to the bed. Gave her some long time DATY with finger in arse and pussy. Progressed to sex and after a while when I was getting closed swapped to anal and filled her arse with cum. Woke up at 9 and got into spoon position poking here arse while fingering her pussy. When she was warmed up started fucking her. Went a long time but just couldn't cum. Not unusual for me after a long trip. She on the other hand had several.

After she left I went to Robinsons and had Korean BBQ for lunch.

[SlySteeler]

Thanks for sharing. Would you happen to have contact info to the one you met the first night please?

[GDreams]

Thanks for sharing. Would you happen to have contact info to the one you met the first night please?Sorry she is not on the market.

[WestCoast1]

Previous to pandemic, Exklusiv and ZZYZX, both higher-end discos in Malate, were jumpin' places. Neither has re-opened, as have most previous places in the area (except Cowboy Grill Remedios, now defunct).

[WestCoast1]

Previous to pandemic, Exklusiv and ZZYZX, both higher-end discos in Malate, were jumpin' places. Neither has re-opened, as have most previous places in the area (except Cowboy Grill Remedios, now defunct).That didn't read right. It should have read:

Neither has re-opened (along with Cowboy Grill Remedios, now defunct), while others in the area have re-opened.

[TroyBoy]

In Manila for 3 days. Staying at Robinson Galleria in Pasig City. Any suggestions for nearby fun / hookup?

Are there any lady homes open anymore since Covid??

Thank you!

[TomParsons2000]

Does anyone have recent experience in Pasay City -- particularly the area around the SM Mall of Asia or the former EDSA Entertainment Complex? It's a shame the latter has closed.

I notice the quickie hotels (Sogo) are still there on EDSA, so I'm wondering if there's any action remaining in the area. For example, a good KTV bar, massage place, or FL pickup joint?

Any local intel would be appreciated. Thanks guys.

[Wicked Roger]

Does anyone have recent experience in Pasay City -- particularly the area around the SM Mall of Asia or the former EDSA Entertainment Complex? It's a shame the latter has closed.

I notice the quickie hotels (Sogo) are still there on EDSA, so I'm wondering if there's any action remaining in the area. For example, a good KTV bar, massage place, or FL pickup joint?

Any local intel would be appreciated. Thanks guys.Lots of info but best on PM so look forward to your PM and can share more and contacts.

[WestCoast1]

Birch Tower, Malate, update. Walked past yesterday and a guy outside handed me a biz card and a sheet of paper with sales figures. He has approximately 50 units for sale. Unit sizes and prices are:

24.3 Meters, p3 - p3. 4 million.

30.63 Meters, p3. 2 - p3. 9 million.

38.14 Meters, p4. 9 million.

41.66 Meters, p5. 5 - p6. 2 million.

42.82 Meters, p5. 5 - p6. 2 million.

They have also fully furnished units as (probably doesn't include utilities):

Studio w / balcony: p2500/ day or p27 k / month.

Big studio w / balcony: p3000/ day or p32 k / month.

1-bedroom w / balcony: p3500/ day or p45 k / month.

Contact info on biz card:

Bannie Ecleo.

Globe 0905 567 6066.

[Goferring]

Birch Tower, Malate, update. Walked past yesterday and a guy outside handed me a biz card and a sheet of paper with sales figures. He has approximately 50 units for sale. Unit sizes and prices are:

What's the build quality of MNL apartments over time? Elsewhere in Asia, it pretty normal for them to look great upon sale, have faulty fittings after 12 months, mouldy paint and wiring issues after 5 yrs, etc. Durability is nowhere near what is expected in the West. Is this a problem in MNL too?

[GDreams]

What's the build quality of MNL apartments over time? Elsewhere in Asia, it pretty normal for them to look great upon sale, have faulty fittings after 12 months, mouldy paint and wiring issues after 5 yrs, etc. Durability is nowhere near what is expected in the West. Is this a problem in MNL too?I am in Birch tower currently. Its been around a while I first stayed in 2019. Its well located directly opposite Robinson Place Mall. The cupboard doors are all falling off, the balcony door doesn't lock, Shower soap holder is just about falling off. Otherwise its in good condition.

[WestCoast1]

What's the build quality of MNL apartments over time? Elsewhere in Asia, it pretty normal for them to look great upon sale, have faulty fittings after 12 months, mouldy paint and wiring issues after 5 yrs, etc. Durability is nowhere near what is expected in the West. Is this a problem in MNL too?Its a problem anywhere in Philippines. Standards are much lower than in the West. As an example: Gramercy and Knightsbridge. I wrote here some years ago about a unit in Gramercy that was falling apart at that time. Its history was short and not sweet. I was only there for a 1-week Burgos warrior stint. Within 24 hours I had to call up the maintenance engineers several times for differing things. Lights and electrical fittings didn't work, plumbing was poor. It was a comedy of errors. Two light swtiches, the switch on the left didn't turn anything on / off. The right switch worked fine. The maintenance guy fixed it quickly and left. For fun after he left, I switched on the right-hand switch and it didn't work. Front desk: Send that engineer right back up, please. Additionally the aircon is located at the floor (not the ceiling) and blows directly on the bed, cracks in the walls in the unit and hallway, and so on. All on a building that was relatively new. At one point the building maintenance guy told me to call a private contractor, which the owner sent over. After the contractor worked on the issue I offered him a coffee and we chat. "Poor design. This place should be Manila's finest. This unit was unoccupied for its first year, then occupied for the past 1 year. Problems and problems". You've been here before. "Oh yes I fixed many things for the owner". To cover cracks in the wall inside the unit, the owner had wallpapered. 1) It was ugly wallpaper, and 2) Whoever did the wallpaper job installed it poorly, crooked. Then later someone tried to wallpaper over the wallpaper. That's an owner thing, but it points to structural issues: he had to wallpaper over cracks caused by regular earthquakes.

KB: My go-to place in Makati, as its rather a classy joint. But many of the units I rent have similar cracks and inoperable things inside, requiring fixes. I think its less than a decade old.

Province: Ayala completed its first residence there. I watched it being built for several years from nearby hotels. Everyone ooohed and ahhhed. I rented a unit for a week during its first year. Everything seemed up to spec (which is rather a low bar in all studio units -- tiny CR, tiny kitchen area, not enough room to have your standard Westy 5-some vaxxing session, and so on) and the entire building had a nice sheen to it. I remember thinking at the time: Give it time, in a year this place will be run down in one or another form. Six months later I was back and noticed cracks in the walls in the hallway and unit. The owner was checking me in. "We had earthquake few months ago". Big earthquake? "No. I was here. I didn't leave the unit". So a small earthquake in the first year made the walls inside and outside the unit crack. Didn't Ayala offer to fix this? "No sir". Did you ask? "No sir". Isn't there some kind of first-year warranty? "I don't know". Fixing cracks in the wall is no easy process; the crack must be spackled and at least that wall (and maybe all interior walls) might need to be repainted for uniformity, requiring the occupant (s) to get out for 1-2-3 days. Haha or wallpapered!

In addition one of the electrical outlets didn't work. The building engineer could not make it work after the earthquake. The owner had purchased a long electric extension cord, snaked it across the room from an operating outlet to the non-operating outlet area, making it difficult to negotiate my way from the bed to the CR at night without tripping over the cord. The cord ran right down the middle of the studio unit (owner's fault, not a design flaw, except that the earthquake-broken outlet that could not be fixed is a design flaw). I went to the hardware store and purchased a second long extension cord, daisy-chained the two cords, and ran the cords along the wall to get them out of the way. Over the years I rented there several times, sometimes in the same unit, and have watched the place go downhill in the same way. Its only about 6 years old, and all the usual deterioration have occurred in ways that my Western properties never experienced in more than a decade. For example, in one of my home country's States where I live, we have more severe (and frequent) earthquakes. Why have none of my Western houses or apartment walls ever cracked? I have lived in single-fam homes and high-rise apartments for long periods of time.

In the same province, another company completed a similar residence a year prior to pandemic. I stayed there last year again. You can see the exact same deterioration issues happening at the same rate. Its the newest and most advanced residence, with fiber run from the ground floor to each unit (150 mbps, yummy). Yet on day 2, the toilet clogged. I borrowed a plunger from the front desk, used it, and returned it. It is telling that the front desk keeps a plunger for the unit owners. The next day, same issue. Guard: "Are you using toilet paper sir?" Yes, the owner was kind enough to have left me SIXTEEN ROLLS! The owner must have spoken to my brother-in-law about me being full of sh*t. Guard: "Sir, we don't use toilet paper here". What? Its an expensive, high-rise, deluxe residence. "Yes sir. But no tissue paper in the toilet". Why would the owner put a roll of paper on the mounted holder next to the toilet? This time the guard sent a maintenance guy with a bigger plunger, who said: "Don't use toilet paper in the toilet. Put it in the trash bin". I msg'd the owner and asked about this. Owner: "Bola. We were told the toilets can handle tissue. I will call admin". Later, on my way out, I ran into a foreigner in the lobby. We stopped and spoke. As we spoke, the guard interrupted: "Sir. Sorry before. I guess you can flush the toilet paper". Um, thanks. The owner must have questioned Admin about it. The other foreigner laughed and asked if I was having toilet issues. "Best to buy your own plunger. Be prepared to use it about every second or third crap you take if you use toilet paper. Alternately, crap and flush. Then wipe and flush a second time just for the toilet paper. Flushing twice like that reduces the number of plunges". Serious? Flushing twice defeats the purpose of installing low-volume (Gallons Per Flush) toilets. They built a modern Hi-tech residence, and put in low volume toilets? "Haha yes. Welcome to Philippines!

Spire. In Makati, Century City. Brand new, not yet occupied. Still being completed, located between Gramercy and KB, next door to Centuria Medical Center. Black building. I got mall touts from agents trying to sell me a unit middle of last year. "We are the same company that built Trump Tower. Our designers and architects are the best in Philippines. Spire is built to a higher standard!" Finally I accepted a viewing. The two agents took me past the door guard to the front desk, telling me that they wanted to show me 2 units.

Once in the studio unit I was not impressed. It was the same size as the unit that I was living in (21-ish sq M), the exact same shape, the exact window placement and size, and the exact same CR as in my unit. It was naked, no furniture or fixings. The exact same kitchen layout (small single sink, about 1 sq meter of counter space). Nothing about it appeared any different than any other condo studio unit that I'd ever seen. I asked: What is different about this unit as to any KB studio? "I don't know sir". You said that these units were to a higher standard, designed by the best architects, and designed after Trump Tower. What did the architects learn from KB and Trump Tower, what improvements did they make? "I don't know". That is seriously the answer of a sales person looking to not sell something (I would later find out just how wrong I was about that).

Looking around, there was an electrical outlet shortage. I pointed out that the side of the room with the aircon unit (the wall adjacent to the back wall; the back wall is where the window is facing the street) had an electrical outlet, requiring the headboard of the bed to be placed there, so you could charge your laptop and phone while using them in bed. "Yes sir". There was a shortage of such outlets on the opposite wall. Where will you plug in your TV, cable box, wifi router, etc? "I don't know. . . ".

Not impressed, they showed me the 1-bedroom unit. A much better kitchen, with a much larger sink (and no cupboard directly over it, meaning you can lean over the sink and wash dishes without hitting your head). Also there is more counter space for cooking equipment and food preparation. In both the sala and bedroom I thought they were short by at least 1 electrical outlet, and I am being kind by saying that. The Western standard is a 4-plug outlet every 2. 5 meters, with additional outlets in the kitchen area.

There was no balcony on either unit. Ma'am how much is this unit? "14 million". And the studio unit? "16 million". Um, do you have that backwards? "No sir. The studio will reduce by several million if you can pay cash. Same for the 1 bedroom unit. If you can purchase 4 or more units we can give a bigger discount". She told me the lower half of the building would be business offices (I would guess call center), and the top half condo units (more later on this). The building is as tall as KB, Gram, Diamond, and TT.

And finally at another residence in the Century area. Tiny, odd-shaped units, hard to describe. My fav broken fixture: The hood, the fan over the stove, designed to collect smoke from your oily cooking and vent it outside. I couldn't make it work right. I contacted the owner (who lives in the unit when its not rented out). He contacted the building maintenance. The engineer showed up to fix it. He made a comment about it not working and I was busy with my laptop. He got it working BZZZZZZZZ, all good. When he turned it off he pointed out that it still would not work. He said the smoke would get pulled up by the fan, then pushed back out into the rest of the interior of the unit. "There is no vent. The smoke will not go outside. You keep a window open". Wait, what? Just this unit? "No sir. All the units. No vents were installed. All of the fans will push the smoke about inside the unit". F*ck me! I told the owner, and was unaware of that. He is an original owner of the unit, for many years. Haaaaaaaa!

[WestCoast1]

I am in Birch tower currently. Its been around a while I first stayed in 2019. Its well located directly opposite Robinson Place Mall. The cupboard doors are all falling off, the balcony door doesn't lock, Shower soap holder is just about falling off. Otherwise its in good condition.From early to late 2022, about 9 months time span, I stayed for either 1 or 2 night stays in BT Malate, probably 15-ish different times. I lived in a condo nearby, and regularly I was using short time places in the area. My residence allowed (at times) only my 1 registered main squeeze (NCR's stringent and cyclical lockdown requirements). At other times they allowed guests, and only for a matter of hours, and during the day time only. I also stayed about 10 times at Shore Towers near MOA in the same way. About 2-3 times monthly, I was renting a place nightly.

At Shore, I found 2 owners, each with multiple units for rent (thru social media). Once contact and deets were worked out on social media, we switched over to txt msg. After meeting their caretaker hosts at shore, I was able to reduce the price. For example, they would advertise an overnight studio at Shore for p2 k. I went and paid that in cash (there is returnable deposit to be paid up front also). After 2 visits with one host and 1 visit with the other, I found them contacting me, trying to get me to reserve another unit ASAP. I would lie and tell them that I found a similar unit at BT for 1800 or 1700, and both hosts got my rate dropped at Shore to 1700 (nice for me). Shore is nicer than BT, and not yet as run down (and has faster elevators).

BT is different. You can rent airbnb, or from owners on social media. Also they have at least 3 entities on the first two floors that rent units. JMM and Regency Grand, and at least one more (seems to be owned by the Admin there). All of them rent units to walk-ins. At the time, RG was charging p2 k per night, and JMM was wanting p2250. On all of my 15-ish stints at that time in BT I was never in the same unit twice. They are all studios and basically identical. I rented these as ST places for several reasons: 1) I needed a place to take a girl who was not my main squeeze in my Residence; 2) I just felt like staying somewhere different; 3) One of my girls likes to be treated to things (in her mind) that does not involve money. Another girl I bussed in from the province for 2 nights and hence couldn't stay in my residence.

In all but one of my 15-ish BT stays, I either reported immediately or upon departure some item that needed to be fixed. All of the things GD mentioned above, electrical outlets and light switches that failed, toilet kept clogging and re-clogging after plunging (the maintenance guy plunged it and it worked fine, then an hour later I took a whiz and it backed up again; lather / rinse / repeat). Twice, just after checkin, I went right back to the RG front desk and asked for a different unit, because they told me that they could not fix the issue until another day (I was only there for the night). Worse, they were aware of the issue and did not mention it when I checked in. Worse, if I wanted another unit I had to wait upstairs in my unit until one *might* become available.

On multiple occasions at BT, I waited in a line in the lobby at BT because my unit could not be checked into because it was being cleaned. I saw group after group of Chinese and Koreans come in and rent units for up to several months, paying cash, without ever bothering to ask about the unit or viewing it. One of the RG requirements in their contract is: NO REFUNDS (or was at the time). I asked the front desk guy, if my unit had problems after I moved in on a month's rent, would they fix it or give me another unit? "Other unit can be difficult. We are very booked always. Fix maybe". Maybe? "Maybe". Can I move out and get a partial refund? "No refunds". Forewarned with this, sometimes I asked to see / view a unit first. The guy, if not busy, would show me one. I would check the aircon, ref, and flush the toilet once, then rent it. Or alternately I learned to ask the front desk guy what problems he was aware of in the unit he was about to assign me to. He had them all memorized. Once when a toilet started leaking from the bottom, dirty water on to the CR floor, he said he could not get a maintenance fix until the next morning, and no other units were available. I have to sleep in a stinky room with a toilet that I am afraid to flush all night? "You open the balcony door". Great! There were also times when GR refused to allow me to view any unit in advance. JMM *always* refused advance viewing. The RG guy showed me a list of all his units (about 35 of them) in the building. As those 35 units are all rentals, and JMM's are also, I would have some difficulty purchasing one later. Renters are hard on things they don't own. Saying: "A rental car is the fastest car on earth".

On most occasions, everything went fine, even with the broken electrical switches or cupboards or rice cooker that didn't work, I got laid every time. Keep in mind the building was completed in 2012, and I think was not fully turned over to management to start populating it until 2013, so its just one decade old. Also it doesn't have enough elevators; others have reported this also. Contrast this with Shore Residence near MOA. Not sure how old it is, but I only experienced one minor issue that I can think of (Internet didn't connect to any device; a router power reset fixed it). For everything I just mentioned about BT, I still like BT, and considered renting a month there recently, but I found airbnb prices were way up (Christmas holdover maybe), and found a much better price elsewhere.

I believe you run into two separate problems here with condos, that happen at the same time. 1) Construction standards are less, causing structural issues to show more quickly. And 2) most items purchased by the owner after taking control of the empty unit are also of a lesser standard. Furniture such as couches and beds are weaker (designed and constructed for smaller persons). The wood in many furniture items (cupboards, couches / beds, etc) is often pressed particle board. Fixtures held in place by tiny screws. And those hot water heaters for the shower in the CR, are often too small. They make several model sizes (small, medium, large) that can heat a larger amount of cold water faster. Each level up is about p1500 more on purchase. In my last SIX condo rentals, even turning the knob to full hot, gets the water very warm, but not hot. There is too much cold water coming thru the unit at once. The key is to turn down the (cold) water pressure, allowing less pressure but hotter water to come out of the shower head. And regardless of the size of the unit, they rarely last 3 years before failure. You just have to plan to replace them regularly. Myself and several of my friends in my country also have electric tankless water heaters in our homes, I have never known of one not lasting 15+ years. Its just a different standard (and its $5000 USD, not cheap).

Obligatory BT pic.

https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/building/birch-tower/14818

[Bad Santa]

What's the build quality of MNL apartments over time? Elsewhere in Asia, it pretty normal for them to look great upon sale, have faulty fittings after 12 months, mouldy paint and wiring issues after 5 yrs, etc. Durability is nowhere near what is expected in the West. Is this a problem in MNL too?G -.

I started investing in condo's a few years back. The one developer that is par with Western-standard is Rockwell. MEGAWORLD / SMDC and some of the Ayala properties are a FAIL as far as I'm concerned.

One of the things that sets One Rockwell apart from the rest of these developers is that the property admin is very good in maintaining the property. They seem to have a good grip about goodt customer service. I never had any issue with their security as well. The whole One Rockwell compound is restricted to outsiders after midnight.

I made a mistake and bought a unit with Megaworld: they just turned over a unit and it hasn't even been a week and the ceiling in the bathroom started leaking. The tile install was also defective. I reported this to the property admin and it took them 2 months before they could start the repair. The whole process was a nightmare.

The better way to go if you are planning to invest in a property is to rent one of the units in the same building you are interested and try it for a month. Avoid pre sale unless you are familiar with the developer. A good friend of mine also bought a property developed by MEGAWORLD and he, too, is going through his personal nightmare.

Good luck.

BS.

[Locamotive]

Its a problem anywhere in Philippines. Standards are much lower than in the West. As an example: Gramercy and Knightsbridge. I wrote here some years ago about a unit in Gramercy that was falling apart at that time. Its history was short and not sweet. I was only there for a 1-week Burgos warrior stint. Within 24 hours I had to call up the maintenance engineers several times for differing things. Lights and electrical fittings didn't work, plumbing was poor. It was a comedy of errors. Two light swtiches, the switch on the left didn't turn anything on / off. The right switch worked fine. The maintenance guy fixed it quickly and left. For fun after he left, I switched on the right-hand switch and it didn't work. Front desk: Send that engineer right back up, please. Additionally the aircon is located at the floor (not the ceiling) and blows directly on the bed, cracks in the walls in the unit and hallway, and so on. All on a building that was relatively new. At one point the building maintenance guy told me to call a private contractor, which the owner sent over. After the contractor worked on the issue I offered him a coffee and we chat. "Poor design. This place should be Manila's finest. This unit was unoccupied for its first year, then occupied for the past 1 year. Problems and problems". You've been here before. "Oh yes I fixed many things for the owner". To cover cracks in the wall inside the unit, the owner had wallpapered. 1) It was ugly wallpaper, and 2) Whoever did the wallpaper job installed it poorly, crooked. Then later someone tried to wallpaper over the wallpaper. That's an owner thing, but it points to structural issues: he had to wallpaper over cracks caused by regular earthquakes.

KB: My go-to place in Makati, as its rather a classy joint. But many of the units I rent have similar cracks and inoperable things inside, requiring fixes. I think its less than a decade old.

Province: Ayala completed its first residence there. I watched it being built for several years from nearby hotels. Everyone ooohed and ahhhed. I rented a unit for a week during its first year. Everything seemed up to spec (which is rather a low bar in all studio units -- tiny CR, tiny kitchen area, not enough room to have your standard Westy 5-some vaxxing session, and so on) and the entire building had a nice sheen to it. I remember thinking at the time: Give it time, in a year this place will be run down in one or another form. Six months later I was back and noticed cracks in the walls in the hallway and unit. The owner was checking me in. "We had earthquake few months ago". Big earthquake? "No. I was here. I didn't leave the unit". So a small earthquake in the first year made the walls inside and outside the unit crack. Didn't Ayala offer to fix this? "No sir". Did you ask? "No sir". Isn't there some kind of first-year warranty? "I don't know". Fixing cracks in the wall is no easy process; the crack must be spackled and at least that wall (and maybe all interior walls) might need to be repainted for uniformity, requiring the occupant (s) to get out for 1-2-3 days. Haha or wallpapered!

In addition one of the electrical outlets didn't work. The building engineer could not make it work after the earthquake. The owner had purchased a long electric extension cord, snaked it across the room from an operating outlet to the non-operating outlet area, making it difficult to negotiate my way from the bed to the CR at night without tripping over the cord. The cord ran right down the middle of the studio unit (owner's fault, not a design flaw, except that the earthquake-broken outlet that could not be fixed is a design flaw). I went to the hardware store and purchased a second long extension cord, daisy-chained the two cords, and ran the cords along the wall to get them out of the way. Over the years I rented there several times, sometimes in the same unit, and have watched the place go downhill in the same way. Its only about 6 years old, and all the usual deterioration have occurred in ways that my Western properties never experienced in more than a decade. For example, in one of my home country's States where I live, we have more severe (and frequent) earthquakes. Why have none of my Western houses or apartment walls ever cracked? I have lived in single-fam homes and high-rise apartments for long periods of time.

In the same province, another company completed a similar residence a year prior to pandemic. I stayed there last year again. You can see the exact same deterioration issues happening at the same rate. Its the newest and most advanced residence, with fiber run from the ground floor to each unit (150 mbps, yummy). Yet on day 2, the toilet clogged. I borrowed a plunger from the front desk, used it, and returned it. It is telling that the front desk keeps a plunger for the unit owners. The next day, same issue. Guard: "Are you using toilet paper sir?" Yes, the owner was kind enough to have left me SIXTEEN ROLLS! The owner must have spoken to my brother-in-law about me being full of sh*t. Guard: "Sir, we don't use toilet paper here". What? Its an expensive, high-rise, deluxe residence. "Yes sir. But no tissue paper in the toilet". Why would the owner put a roll of paper on the mounted holder next to the toilet? This time the guard sent a maintenance guy with a bigger plunger, who said: "Don't use toilet paper in the toilet. Put it in the trash bin". I msg'd the owner and asked about this. Owner: "Bola. We were told the toilets can handle tissue. I will call admin". Later, on my way out, I ran into a foreigner in the lobby. We stopped and spoke. As we spoke, the guard interrupted: "Sir. Sorry before. I guess you can flush the toilet paper". Um, thanks. The owner must have questioned Admin about it. The other foreigner laughed and asked if I was having toilet issues. "Best to buy your own plunger. Be prepared to use it about every second or third crap you take if you use toilet paper. Alternately, crap and flush. Then wipe and flush a second time just for the toilet paper. Flushing twice like that reduces the number of plunges". Serious? Flushing twice defeats the purpose of installing low-volume (Gallons Per Flush) toilets. They built a modern Hi-tech residence, and put in low volume toilets? "Haha yes. Welcome to Philippines!

Spire. In Makati, Century City. Brand new, not yet occupied. Still being completed, located between Gramercy and KB, next door to Centuria Medical Center. Black building. I got mall touts from agents trying to sell me a unit middle of last year. "We are the same company that built Trump Tower. Our designers and architects are the best in Philippines. Spire is built to a higher standard!" Finally I accepted a viewing. The two agents took me past the door guard to the front desk, telling me that they wanted to show me 2 units.

Once in the studio unit I was not impressed. It was the same size as the unit that I was living in (21-ish sq M), the exact same shape, the exact window placement and size, and the exact same CR as in my unit. It was naked, no furniture or fixings. The exact same kitchen layout (small single sink, about 1 sq meter of counter space). Nothing about it appeared any different than any other condo studio unit that I'd ever seen. I asked: What is different about this unit as to any KB studio? "I don't know sir". You said that these units were to a higher standard, designed by the best architects, and designed after Trump Tower. What did the architects learn from KB and Trump Tower, what improvements did they make? "I don't know". That is seriously the answer of a sales person looking to not sell something (I would later find out just how wrong I was about that).

Looking around, there was an electrical outlet shortage. I pointed out that the side of the room with the aircon unit (the wall adjacent to the back wall; the back wall is where the window is facing the street) had an electrical outlet, requiring the headboard of the bed to be placed there, so you could charge your laptop and phone while using them in bed. "Yes sir". There was a shortage of such outlets on the opposite wall. Where will you plug in your TV, cable box, wifi router, etc? "I don't know. . . ".

Not impressed, they showed me the 1-bedroom unit. A much better kitchen, with a much larger sink (and no cupboard directly over it, meaning you can lean over the sink and wash dishes without hitting your head). Also there is more counter space for cooking equipment and food preparation. In both the sala and bedroom I thought they were short by at least 1 electrical outlet, and I am being kind by saying that. The Western standard is a 4-plug outlet every 2. 5 meters, with additional outlets in the kitchen area.

There was no balcony on either unit. Ma'am how much is this unit? "14 million". And the studio unit? "16 million". Um, do you have that backwards? "No sir. The studio will reduce by several million if you can pay cash. Same for the 1 bedroom unit. If you can purchase 4 or more units we can give a bigger discount". She told me the lower half of the building would be business offices (I would guess call center), and the top half condo units (more later on this). The building is as tall as KB, Gram, Diamond, and TT.

And finally at another residence in the Century area. Tiny, odd-shaped units, hard to describe. My fav broken fixture: The hood, the fan over the stove, designed to collect smoke from your oily cooking and vent it outside. I couldn't make it work right. I contacted the owner (who lives in the unit when its not rented out). He contacted the building maintenance. The engineer showed up to fix it. He made a comment about it not working and I was busy with my laptop. He got it working BZZZZZZZZ, all good. When he turned it off he pointed out that it still would not work. He said the smoke would get pulled up by the fan, then pushed back out into the rest of the interior of the unit. "There is no vent. The smoke will not go outside. You keep a window open". Wait, what? Just this unit? "No sir. All the units. No vents were installed. All of the fans will push the smoke about inside the unit". F*ck me! I told the owner, and was unaware of that. He is an original owner of the unit, for many years. Haaaaaaaa!In a third world country. 14 to 16 million, someone is smoking crack, 250 to $300 k. I've seen used ones 8 or 10 million in Grammercy considering the build quality used may be better as owner may have worked out the issues. Maybe I've been lucky but most I've rented are fine. I'm not that picky, good TV, shower and A / see and I'm good to go. Leasing may be a better option that way if you get tired of the area you can move around. The business office in these buildings can help you and it can be a bit cheaper than using Airbnb long term. There is a new one going up beside Century City, Strafford I think but I imagine those prices are crazy too.

[JackOnTheRocks]

Hey Guys,

I asked this in the Makati forum and was told this is more relevant for the Manila forum (apologize for the repeat).

I am planning a trip to Manila / Makati end of February. My last trip was in 2016 and I really had a good time. I know things have changed post covid so wanted to get some info from the experts.

Question 1 - Are the casas / dormitories still active? I remember a few casas that the taxi guys used to take me. There used to be a line up of girls at these casas that you can pick and bring back to your room and there were some cute women at some of these casas.

Question 2 - Where would you go to find some high end escorts (websites, bars, clubs, karaoke bars)?

[Trvllvr58]

Hey guys,

Just a short report on a recent trip to PI.

Stayed at Sheraton Manila Bay. Needless to say, girl friendly. Easy walk to LA Cafe (woof!) if that's what you are looking for. Admittedly I didn't go there at prime times, but damn it was bleak. Lots of girls but the term "not even with yours" comes to mind! No idea on pricing. Felt dirty even making the walk around.

Used Manila Courtesans twice and was very pleased. Accurate photos and definite GFE by both providers. Made sense to spend 5 k to have girl delivered to my hotel. And the 2nd was a 10 k girl. 5 k girl was actually better. She was new so hasn't raised her pricing yet. But both were good value when comparing to Makati take-away! And it fit with my work schedule which was 7 pm - 3 am local time.

Makati adventures were limited to Dimples. 4 k bar fine, 5 k for girl first night in town. Plus a few lady drinks. Last night in town sprung for the foursome. BF total 9 k (minor discount) and 4 k per girl for this adventure. It was a LOT of fun. Yes, it was $400 USD but it was my last night in town and the girls earned every dollar. Especially "BJ" who earned her 1 k bonus by making my come (and in) her mouth.

In all cases I tipped well. Hope that's still OK with y'all?

Oh, BTW. Yes, there were girls outside of Robinsons mall (McDonalds street) but again. You G L why there really is no alibi! (YMMV).

Summary. I like PI. It's nice to have a conversation beyond "How long you stay Thailand" and "You come 1st time Thailand" with a girl. And to get a cutie (Pearl) delivered to my room for 5 k /$100 is fantastic value IMHO.

Enjoy your travels.

[WestCoast1]

In all cases I tipped well. Hope that's still OK with y'all?A man pays what a man pays.


Oh, BTW. Yes, there were girls outside of Robinsons mall (McDonalds street) but again. Was walking the area recently, playing a game of What's That SMELL! And passed the steps in front of Robinson's. Stopped and counted 17 ladies sitting, kibitzing, and available for your prurient interests. Even with my admittedly somewhat lower standards, I only saw one worth taking.

TRVL: Good report.

[Goferring]

And to get a cutie (Pearl) delivered to my room for 5 k /$100 is fantastic value IMHO.

Enjoy your travels.You will have to ask for a commission next time for drumming up business for her: She is now 7/14 k. 😊.

I've never used a service but I'd agree that the 10/12/14 k girls represent good value vs what would be spent in Burgos for a night out to find an all nighter.

Well done. G.

[ShadowJ]

I am FINALLY making my triumphant return to the Philippines at the end of the month. It will be a 2 1/2 week trip. I'm spending most of the first 2 weeks in AC. The final weekend, I have a commitment in Manila. My question is: Should I go back to AC for the final 3-4 days or just stay in Manila? Can I fill 3-4 days with hot, young poontang as easily as I can in AC. Any suggestions for routes I can take? I see there are some stunners on Seeking Arrangements in Manila.

[WestCoast1]

I am FINALLY making my triumphant return to the Philippines at the end of the month.SJ: Welcome back! Hopefully I will be able to get some rest at that time from my vaxxing work here. A few pics for the gents. Sorry they are a bit fuzzy. Long-waisted critter. Get-er-clean. Get-er-done.

[Goferring]

My question is: Should I go back to AC for the final 3-4 days or just stay in Manila? Can I fill 3-4 days with hot, young poontang as easily as I can in AC. Any suggestions for routes I can take? I see there are some stunners on Seeking Arrangements in Manila.What days of the week are your remaining 4 days? AC is much more lively Fri / Sat and may be worth a return. Personally, I wouldn't worry about travelling back midweek.

There are so many options that you don't have to prebook everything. You can just extend your stay in Manila if you are having a great time or meet Ms Right. If you are over Manila then just book your AC hotel and transport the day before and move.

If you are happy to pay Seeking prices then there is also Tinder, IG and the agencies or the old favourite, Burgos. Depends on what you are looking for.

Enjoy. G.

[Dg8787]

I am FINALLY making my triumphant return to the Philippines at the end of the month. It will be a 2 1/2 week trip. I'm spending most of the first 2 weeks in AC. The final weekend, I have a commitment in Manila. My question is: Should I go back to AC for the final 3-4 days or just stay in Manila? Can I fill 3-4 days with hot, young poontang as easily as I can in AC. Any suggestions for routes I can take? I see there are some stunners on Seeking Arrangements in Manila.After all the Nasty Shit posted about AC why would you do 2 weeks there and then think of coming back for more? Are you Korean?

Please post your action reports.

[MrHappyKat]

Hey guys,

Used Manila Courtesans twice and was very pleased. Accurate photos and definite GFE by both providers. Made sense to spend 5 k to have girl delivered to my hotel. And the 2nd was a 10 k girl. 5 k girl was actually better. She was new so hasn't raised her pricing yet. But both were good value when comparing to Makati take-away! And it fit with my work schedule which was 7 pm - 3 am local time.
Thanks for the report! Sounds like that 4-Girl event was awesome!

Did Manila Courtesans have any rules about BBFS, CIP and CIM?

[Sammon]

Hey guys,

Just a short report on a recent trip to PI.

Stayed at Sheraton Manila Bay. Needless to say, girl friendly. Easy walk to LA Cafe (woof!) if that's what you are looking for. Admittedly I didn't go there at prime times, but damn it was bleak. Lots of girls but the term "not even with yours" comes to mind! No idea on pricing. Felt dirty even making the walk around.

Used Manila Courtesans twice and was very pleased. Accurate photos and definite GFE by both providers. Made sense to spend 5 k to have girl delivered to my hotel. And the 2nd was a 10 k girl. 5 k girl was actually better. She was new so hasn't raised her pricing yet. But both were good value when comparing to Makati take-away! And it fit with my work schedule which was 7 pm - 3 am local time.

Makati adventures were limited to Dimples. 4 k bar fine, 5 k for girl first night in town. Plus a few lady drinks. Last night in town sprung for the foursome. BF total 9 k (minor discount) and 4 k per girl for this adventure. It was a LOT of fun. Yes, it was $400 USD but it was my last night in town and the girls earned every dollar. Especially "BJ" who earned her 1 k bonus by making my come (and in) her mouth.

In all cases I tipped well. Hope that's still OK with y'all?

Oh, BTW. Yes, there were girls outside of Robinsons mall (McDonalds street) but again. You G L why there really is no alibi! (YMMV).

Summary. I like PI. It's nice to have a conversation beyond "How long you stay Thailand" and "You come 1st time Thailand" with a girl. And to get a cutie (Pearl) delivered to my room for 5 k /$100 is fantastic value IMHO.

Enjoy your travels.5000 is a fair price for using service. Not sure if they are service oriented. Is this LT or ST? BBCIP?

I use DIA girls. I offer them 2500 per day initially and generally give 3000. They are sweet honeys. Hangs around with me all the time and on demand sex. Otherwise they listen to music, watch tv and it is GFE.

Going to Manila next month on the way to Jakarta. Landing early in the morning in Manila and have till evening to catch a flight to Jakarta. Hoping to get a day use hotel. Will try my luck at new coast hotel first which I like. If not successful troll along that area and check wall hotels. Have lined up two girls who will be with me all day.

Not very successful in getting a girl in Jakarta yet. The ones I chatted are either ugly or fat or both. They are mostly older. Seems like Jakarta girls are not in the same mould as Philippine girls. Although I had met many nice girls in Jakarta and had fun few years ago. Maybe girls have changed their outlook there.

[Gilolo]

Thanks for the report! Sounds like that 4-Girl event was awesome!

Did Manila Courtesans have any rules about BBFS, CIP and CIM?Well I was in Makati twice, and girls never asked me to use condoms! I fuck all the time bareback!

[Radical Guy]

I'll be overnight in Manila in a few weeks, and plan to go to Malate to get a freelancer / streetwalker. Is the Red Planet Hotel on Mabini Street girl friendly? The location seems to be ideal for my purposes.

RG.

[Nolz7]

Thanks for the report! Sounds like that 4-Girl event was awesome!

Did Manila Courtesans have any rules about BBFS, CIP and CIM?I have availed of their services once. Hander said services is inclusive of sex and massage for 2 hours. 12 hours is also offered. YMMV.

[Python75]

I'll be overnight in Manila in a few weeks, and plan to go to Malate to get a freelancer / streetwalker. Is the Red Planet Hotel on Mabini Street girl friendly? The location seems to be ideal for my purposes.

RG.Yes it is. I have used it.

[Dg8787]

I'll be overnight in Manila in a few weeks, and plan to go to Malate to get a freelancer / streetwalker. Is the Red Planet Hotel on Mabini Street girl friendly? The location seems to be ideal for my purposes.

RG.Pre Covid they would take and hold the girls ID. If you didn't walk the girl down on her way out then the doorman will come knock on your door to ask you "is everything ok sir" before releasing her with her ID.