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DoktorEn
02-03-23, 17:51
Is the Red Planet Hotel on Mabini Street girl friendly? The location seems to be ideal for my purposes.

RG.I just stayed there. It is indeed girl friendly. On Google it's described as an adult only hotel. The reception explains the guest policy in detail and they have big posters saying "guest friendly". Just don't expect girls to be impressed. It's a very basic fuck and go place. It'll probably be fine for LA bar and streetwalkers but I can't tell for sure since I hunt the young ones on PL (more detailed report to follow later).

Edit: they are comparatively strict with IDs. They demand both government ID and vaccine card. May be flexible.

WestCoast1
02-04-23, 01:11
Edit: they are comparatively strict with IDs. They demand both government ID and vaccine card. May be flexible.The RP in Makati near Burgos St also requires both ID and vax card. My current residence requires both, and mid-late last year, Knightsbridge was on / off at different times (or just different guards at the front door) in requiring either only the ID, or at other times both. Calling ahead on the phone helps clear this up (usually).

Drbombay
02-04-23, 08:04
Hey guys,

Just a short report on a recent trip to PI.

Stayed at Sheraton Manila Bay. Needless to say, girl friendly. Easy walk to LA Cafe (woof!) if that's what you are looking for. Admittedly I didn't go there at prime times, but damn it was bleak. Lots of girls but the term "not even with yours" comes to mind! No idea on pricing. Felt dirty even making the walk around.

Used Manila Courtesans twice and was very pleased. Accurate photos and definite GFE by both providers. Made sense to spend 5 k to have girl delivered to my hotel. And the 2nd was a 10 k girl. 5 k girl was actually better. She was new so hasn't raised her pricing yet. But both were good value when comparing to Makati take-away! And it fit with my work schedule which was 7 pm - 3 am local time.

Makati adventures were limited to Dimples. 4 k bar fine, 5 k for girl first night in town. Plus a few lady drinks. Last night in town sprung for the foursome. BF total 9 k (minor discount) and 4 k per girl for this adventure. It was a LOT of fun. Yes, it was $400 USD but it was my last night in town and the girls earned every dollar. Especially "BJ" who earned her 1 k bonus by making my come (and in) her mouth.

In all cases I tipped well. Hope that's still OK with y'all?

Oh, BTW. Yes, there were girls outside of Robinsons mall (McDonalds street) but again. You G L why there really is no alibi! (YMMV).

Summary. I like PI. It's nice to have a conversation beyond "How long you stay Thailand" and "You come 1st time Thailand" with a girl. And to get a cutie (Pearl) delivered to my room for 5 k /$100 is fantastic value IMHO.

Enjoy your travels.I plan to be back to Manila in April and though I have many I've been in contact with from previous visits last year, I like the idea of Manila Courtesans. I never made the time for them. The one I saw on there today "Jewel" looks like she's worth the price!

Phil65
02-04-23, 11:10
I plan to be back to Manila in April and though I have many I've been in contact with from previous visits last year, I like the idea of Manila Courtesans. I never made the time for them. The one I saw on there today "Jewel" looks like she's worth the price!I haven't used manila courtesans since before the pandemic but I think she has been using the same pics and age for over 3 years.

Radical Guy
02-04-23, 13:04
Do the girls on Manila Courtesans generally offer BBFS? Is there any way to determine this when selecting a girl?

RG.

WestCoast1
02-05-23, 07:28
Long-waisted city gal needed a 'pee-nanshal' to buy school supplies for her young daughter. She received enough to buy the child's backpack, and she got a free vaxxing, too.

Stay clean and get some.

Redman25
02-05-23, 22:18
I'm sure it's been answered before, but there are so many post in this group. Looking for a nice hotel near all the action guess Crowley of course can someone please make recommendations thank you.

Zhangsan
02-06-23, 23:06
Manila was a huge disappointment to me, enough so that I actually cut my 8 day trip short and left after the third night. Was booked for 8 nights at the Okada Manila casino, which is a legitimately good place, but they refunded me the next five.

First I got someone from SA for 8000 pesos, 2 hours. She was cute, but at least 20 lbs heavier than her picture. Very nice girl, very curvy, great conversation, but not what I'm into. I was tired, so after the convo I just got a blowjob and let her go home. Good BJ skills at least, and I came in her mouth! Overall though, waste of money.

Next I tried a VIP escort from Manila Courtesans. I figured I'the try something higher class. This one was pretty much as picture showed, although still slightly heavier than expected. This one was even more expensive - 25 k pesos! But, because I keep booking girls online when jet lagged and horny, I decided to keep her. Was a good shag and she was very affectionate, but worth 25 k pesos? Absolutely not, not even close. She also left 30 minutes earlier, but I was at the verge of falling asleep then so I didn't fight it, and it was probably for the best.

Having been burned by internet bookings twice, I decided to check out some gogo bars in person. Ended up going to P Burgos, checked out a few gogos and Kojax in particular, which a friend recommended. My god was it a disappointment. Small rooms, only 20 girls at most, most were heavily out of shape, and they looked bored as sin on stage. Just felt dark and grungy. Two of the eight on the stage were just standing there on the stage while vaping! Couldn't help but laugh. My buddy and I didn't even finish our drinks before we bolted. Only 1-2 of the girls were borderline fuckable by my standards, but even then. You know? And Burgos itself felt like a shithole. Imagine taking all the sleaziest parts of Walking Street / Pattaya, with almost none of the good parts. I've mongered on and off throughout Asia, but this is the first time I felt grimy for even being there. Ick.

The very next day, I left the entire damn country. I'm sure there are diamonds in the rough, but by god there's a lot of rough! You need a cast iron stomach to stand this place, from what I've seen. If you want an experience that's even remotely classy, stay the hell away. It was far below the likes of Nana Plaza in Bangkok in terms of both girl quality and vibe.

Sorry for the negativity for those who enjoy Manila, but, it 100% wasn't for me.

Sammon
02-07-23, 03:27
Manila was a huge disappointment to me, enough so that I actually cut my 8 day trip short and left after the third night. Was booked for 8 nights at the Okada Manila casino, which is a legitimately good place, but they refunded me the next five.

First I got someone from SA for 8000 pesos, 2 hours. She was cute, but at least 20 lbs heavier than her picture. Very nice girl, very curvy, great conversation, but not what I'm into. I was tired, so after the convo I just got a blowjob and let her go home. Good BJ skills at least, and I came in her mouth! Overall though, waste of money.

Next I tried a VIP escort from Manila Courtesans. I figured I'the try something higher class. This one was pretty much as picture showed, although still slightly heavier than expected. This one was even more expensive - 25 k pesos! But, because I keep booking girls online when jet lagged and horny, I decided to keep her. Was a good shag and she was very affectionate, but worth 25 k pesos? Absolutely not, not even close. She also left 30 minutes earlier, but I was at the verge of falling asleep then so I didn't fight it, and it was probably for the best.

Having been burned by internet bookings twice, I decided to check out some gogo bars in person. Ended up going to P Burgos, checked out a few gogos and Kojax in particular, which a friend recommended. My god was it a disappointment. Small rooms, only 20 girls at most, most were heavily out of shape, and they looked bored as sin on stage. Just felt dark and grungy. Two of the eight on the stage were just standing there on the stage while vaping! Couldn't help but laugh. My buddy and I didn't even finish our drinks before we bolted. Only 1-2 of the girls were borderline fuckable by my standards, but even then. You know? And Burgos itself felt like a shithole. Imagine taking all the sleaziest parts of Walking Street / Pattaya, with almost none of the good parts. I've mongered on and off throughout Asia, but this is the first time I felt grimy for even being there. Ick.

The very next day, I left the entire damn country. I'm sure there are diamonds in the rough, but by god there's a lot of rough! You need a cast iron stomach to stand this place, from what I've seen. If you want an experience that's even remotely classy, stay the hell away. It was far below the likes of Nana Plaza in Bangkok in terms of both girl quality and vibe.

Sorry for the negativity for those who enjoy Manila, but, it 100% wasn't for me.By now you should realize spending lots of money does not equate GFE service. I have never used any escort girls anywhere in the world. I only look for freelancers at a bar. Most often I hook up on dating sites. They stay with me and give good service for less damage. I have stayed in many mid range hotels as well as high range hotels. I do not try to impress girls. After all they are rent a while anyway.

Philippines is one of the few places left where even normal girls do not look at the age difference. Even little money helps them a lot where average salary is very low. Almost all need to send money home to the provinces or help parents and siblings if at home. Over many years of mongering I have many other locations for example China, Thailand, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Cambodia etc where girls are not eager to service cheaply.

If you are finding it hard in Philippines to find a good service provider maybe you should go to Europe and try escort sites with top notch high end girls. However their service maybe questionable.

Gen X Baer
02-07-23, 03:48
Manila was a huge disappointment to me, enough so that I actually cut my 8 day trip short and left after the third night. Was booked for 8 nights at the Okada Manila casino, which is a legitimately good place, but they refunded me the next five.

First I got someone from SA for 8000 pesos, 2 hours. She was cute, but at least 20 lbs heavier than her picture. Very nice girl, very curvy, great conversation, but not what I'm into. I was tired, so after the convo I just got a blowjob and let her go home.
Next I tried a VIP escort from Manila ....

Having been burned by internet bookings twice, I decided to check out some gogo bars in person. Ended up going to P Burgos, checked out a few gogos and Kojax in particular, which a friend recommended. My god was it a disappointment. Small rooms, only 20 girls at most, most were heavily out of shape, and they looked bored as sin on stage. Just felt dark and grungy. Two of the eight on the stage were just standing there on the stage while vaping! Couldn't help but laugh. My buddy and I didn't even finish our drinks before we bolted. Only 1-2 of the girls were borderline fuckable by my standards, but even then. You know? And Burgos itself felt like a shithole. Imagine taking all the sleaziest parts of Walking Street / Pattaya, with almost none of the good parts. I've mongered on and off throughout Asia, but this is the first time I felt grimy for even being there. Ick....
The very next
Sorry for the negativity for those who enjoy Manila, but, it 100% wasn't for me.How did you get to kojax? According to the girls that I know and used to work there it's been shutdown. Is this a time travel post?

WestCoast1
02-07-23, 04:22
How did you get to kojax? According to the girls that I know and used to work there it's been shutdown. Is this a time travel post?Plan B, still in its old location, is now "Plan B / Kojax" on the sign above the security guards at the street.

Zhangsan
02-07-23, 08:09
Plan B, still in its old location, is now "Plan B / Kojax" on the sign above the security guards at the street.Correct, this is the place I went to. It sucked, heh.

Zhangsan
02-07-23, 08:31
By now you should realize spending lots of money does not equate GFE service. I have never used any escort girls anywhere in the world. I only look for freelancers at a bar. Most often I hook up on dating sites. They stay with me and give good service for less damage. I have stayed in many mid range hotels as well as high range hotels. I do not try to impress girls. After all they are rent a while anyway.

Philippines is one of the few places left where even normal girls do not look at the age difference. Even little money helps them a lot where average salary is very low. Almost all need to send money home to the provinces or help parents and siblings if at home. Over many years of mongering I have many other locations for example China, Thailand, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Vietnam, Cambodia etc where girls are not eager to service cheaply.

If you are finding it hard in Philippines to find a good service provider maybe you should go to Europe and try escort sites with top notch high end girls. However their service maybe questionable.Fully respect this. For me, I'm in late 30's and fairly well off, and am fairly picky. While money doesn't necessarily guarantee good product, I've found that as with most things in life, the more you are willing to crack your wallet, the higher your chances of landing something nice are. I'm also very time poor, so there is that aspect of the equation as well; in the end, brute forcing things with a bit of extra paper has done very well for me in almost every country, be it through escorts, Seeking, or whatever. Based on my very short trip and stories I've heard from local friends, Manila strikes me as a place where maybe you can get good results if you stay here and put in a lot of time, but that wasn't a possibility for me.

Standards of beauty may come into play as well. I've mostly lived and mongered in East Asia the past decade or so, and in comparison the girls in Manila seem on average to be so much thicker! Where were the tight Pinay spinners I heard so much about?! Now I'm in Thailand, and by god, the ladies are so much slimmer on average!

Goferring
02-07-23, 22:43
Fully respect this. For me, I'm in late 30's and fairly well off, and am fairly picky. While money doesn't necessarily guarantee good product, I've found that as with most things in life, the more you are willing to crack your wallet, the higher your chances of landing something nice are. I'm also very time poor, so there is that aspect of the equation as well; in the end, brute forcing things with a bit of extra paper has done very well for me in almost every country...It's never good to hear of someone not having a good trip. Unfortunately, I'd side with Sammon and agree that throwing money at problem rarely works in PH. Typically the opposite as girls see this as an easy mark and try to exploit it by over charging and / or minimal effort.

I'd agree that is now extremely rare to find a slim and tall girl in PH. It's more likely in Mindanao but that's a long way from Manila and not an option for anyone who is time poor.

Cheers. G.

AsianPursuits
02-08-23, 00:36
Manila was a huge disappointment to me, enough so that I actually cut my 8 day trip short and left after the third night. Was booked for 8 nights at the Okada Manila casino, which is a legitimately good place, but they refunded me the next five.How I wish it was possible to offer a business where an experienced monger (such as myself) has a vetted list of slim girls that will make this work.

A) Meet the visitor at the airport, accompany him to hotel. Flirting in the car. Assist with check-in.

B1) Take monger to 3-4 bars or.

B2) Arrange dinner dates with vetted list of tall hot spinners.

C) Ensure he scores.

Could easily do this with a vetted list of 10 girls which can be rotated through the various visitors over the months given most people are 1-2 week visits in this market.

Philosophus
02-08-23, 06:22
Where were the tight Pinay spinners I heard so much about?! Now I'm in Thailand, and by god, the ladies are so much slimmer on average!Food addiction is so sad. Here is a thing every young bird could do to make the world a better place, and what do they do? Eat themselves out of the desirable range.

Sammon
02-08-23, 12:35
It's never good to hear of someone not having a good trip. Unfortunately, I'd side with Sammon and agree that throwing money at problem rarely works in PH. Typically the opposite as girls see this as an easy mark and try to exploit it by over charging and / or minimal effort.

I'd agree that is now extremely rare to find a slim and tall girl in PH. It's more likely in Mindanao but that's a long way from Manila and not an option for anyone who is time poor.

Cheers. G.There are many spinners at Japanese- Korean oriented Karaoke bars. They hire only the best doll looking girls. I had a Japanese friend who liked to go to such places. I liked Karaoke's in China but not in Manila.

I had contact online with a Karaoke hostess. She wanted 10,000 pesos per night. I will attach her pic here. Not my thing when I get country bumpkins who are also pretty and best GFE service.

At the entertainment complex which had many bars there were many pretty girls. I had a friend there extremely pretty, tall and nice shape with big boobs. She said she is a mistress of a leading lawyer there and she claims she does not go with everyone. I take it with a grain of salt. However she was a nice GFE girl with me although at that time I paid her only 2000 per night.

Like anything else in life sometimes you get the cream of the crop and sometimes you are stuck with a dud.

Muttley81
02-08-23, 12:35
Correct, this is the place I went to. It sucked, heh.Plan be wasn't the best before it closed, that's why I've not been back since it reopened. You made me laugh with comment about girls standing on stage looking bored, that's exactly what used to happen previously!

Shame you didn't have a good time though, there are some great places you can have a lot of fun with good looking girls.

CrazyCalabrese
02-08-23, 15:27
Went there yesterday afternoon. Paid my 1300 for 80 minutes. Went into a dark room with a curtain in the middle of the hallway where you could hear everything in other rooms. Didn't get to pick the girl. Got someone I felt was highly unattractive and got a rough massage and a very subpar HJ.

Trvllvr58
02-08-23, 23:23
Do the girls on Manila Courtesans generally offer BBFS? Is there any way to determine this when selecting a girl?

RG.IME. That's a solid No! Read the FAQ, they address it there as well. But BBBJ is great.

Trvllvr58
02-08-23, 23:25
I plan to be back to Manila in April and though I have many I've been in contact with from previous visits last year, I like the idea of Manila Courtesans. I never made the time for them. The one I saw on there today "Jewel" looks like she's worth the price!I highly recommend Pearl. Great value at 5 k. Still thinking of her even now.

Trvllvr58
02-08-23, 23:28
5000 is a fair price for using service. Not sure if they are service oriented. Is this LT or ST? BBCIP?

I use DIA girls. I offer them 2500 per day initially and generally give 3000. They are sweet honeys. Hangs around with me all the time and on demand sex. Otherwise they listen to music, watch tv and it is GFE.

Going to Manila next month on the way to Jakarta. Landing early in the morning in Manila and have till evening to catch a flight to Jakarta. Hoping to get a day use hotel. Will try my luck at new coast hotel first which I like. If not successful troll along that area and check wall hotels. Have lined up two girls who will be with me all day.

Not very successful in getting a girl in Jakarta yet. The ones I chatted are either ugly or fat or both. They are mostly older. Seems like Jakarta girls are not in the same mould as Philippine girls. Although I had met many nice girls in Jakarta and had fun few years ago. Maybe girls have changed their outlook there.Check out the website for pricing. It varies by girl. And it is ST. Also see FAQ for rules. BBBJ but not BBFS is the standard. And YES, very service oriented was my experience.

WestCoast1
02-09-23, 09:29
Standards of beauty may come into play as well. I've mostly lived and mongered in East Asia the past decade or so, and in comparison the girls in Manila seem on average to be so much thicker! Where were the tight Pinay spinners I heard so much about?! Now I'm in Thailand, and by god, the ladies are so much slimmer on average!Yes. We've written extensively over the years about the "Jollibee" chubby-ing of the population, even recently drawing the differences in the gals from Phils and Thailand, physically and language-wise. Sad state of affairs. Sorry you had a difficult time. If you want lots-O-lookers on-demand, go to BKK / Patts.


It's never good to hear of someone not having a good trip. SNIP I'd agree that is now extremely rare to find a slim and tall girl in PH. It's more likely in Mindanao but that's a long way from Manila and not an option for anyone who is time poor.OTOH, if you have some time to preen between the weeds, I hear you can find a happy spinner or two.

Expat American
02-09-23, 10:59
What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.

The Philippines is the place I go for either large variety with guaranteed BBFS (easier here than anywhere else in the world) at a reasonable price (under 100 USD all night or less than 50 USD ST) or to hook up with dating site girls. With all due respect to come here and pay 5000 or 8000 or 10000 Peso for an average fuck is like paying $50 for a Mcdonalds burger just cause you have cash to throw around. A $5 burger doesn't taste better because you pay 10 X for it. Same with Filipina pussy.

Pute Nut
02-09-23, 12:10
What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.

Hear, hear. Overpaying is for insecure guys. Besides I often find filipino pussy pricing inversely correlated with the performance level. A good rule of thumb in any market is to pay 10 x the local price of a haircut for an ST. I see the haircuts now go for P 50-60 so we are already grossly overpaying at the P 1-1. 5 K level.

Fastpiston
02-09-23, 12:21
What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.

The Philippines is the place I go for either large variety with guaranteed BBFS (easier here than anywhere else in the world) at a reasonable price (under 100 USD all night or less than 50 USD ST) or to hook up with dating site girls. With all due respect to come here and pay 5000 or 8000 or 10000 Peso for an average fuck is like paying $50 for a Mcdonalds burger just cause you have cash to throw around. A $5 burger doesn't taste better because you pay 10 X for it. Same with Filipina pussy.Agreed. The market is getting overpriced. To many visitors coming here and playing Mr. Big and throwing cash around. In reality the girls willingly grab the money and think the guy is a fool.

CodeName47
02-09-23, 12:24
What have things come to when we are actually discussing 5 K Peso short time with a Filipina that doesn't even include BBFS? Its okay to have money. Without boasting, I have a mid 7 figure USD Net worth and can easily afford it but I find it ridiculous to travel to third world shithole and pay first world prices. Just for reference, short time with a cute young Thai girl in Singapore would cost around 140-200 SGD ($100-150 USD) and that's 90 minutes, two shots, BBBJ and CFS. Depending on the girl other things like Anal and CIM etc are often on the menu.

The Philippines is the place I go for either large variety with guaranteed BBFS (easier here than anywhere else in the world) at a reasonable price (under 100 USD all night or less than 50 USD ST) or to hook up with dating site girls. With all due respect to come here and pay 5000 or 8000 or 10000 Peso for an average fuck is like paying $50 for a Mcdonalds burger just cause you have cash to throw around. A $5 burger doesn't taste better because you pay 10 X for it. Same with Filipina pussy.Yes, It is increasingly unattractive to plan just for our hobby now. I had been to cebu during May 2022. I had a few good memories (through social networking). But paid scene had gone downhill. I love travel, classic(jakarta indonesia) if I wish multiple point and shoot scene. Somehow I haven't had a good worthy punt at manila.

MrHappyKat
02-09-23, 21:38
Check out the website for pricing. It varies by girl. And it is ST. Also see FAQ for rules. BBBJ but not BBFS is the standard. And YES, very service oriented was my experience.Because I do not see any info on BBBJ and / or BBFS. The closest info I see is this:

"Do your escorts provide GFE service?

Yes, they do, but remember that hygiene plays a key role in ensuring that you have a great time with our models. ".

Here is the link to the FAQ: https://manilacourtesans.com/faqs-2/.

Thanks for any additional info you have about them.

Locamotive
02-09-23, 23:07
Agreed. The market is getting overpriced. To many visitors coming here and playing Mr. Big and throwing cash around. In reality the girls willingly grab the money and think the guy is a fool.Its first time tourist raising these prices. I don't know how many girls text me some first time toursit from USA. Australia. Europe going bat shit crazy when they enter the bar. There is much more exposer now to our monger destination's online than there has ever been. Men watch this stuff and dream. Save up all year and get a 20 year old hottie on their lap and they go insane. You must remember allot of these guys never had women like that even when they were young. So yes they go ape shit crazy. Girls told me of a recent American, takes 3 girl's, tipped waitress 5000 and gave the girls 10 K each plus the barfines and drinks, and that was his first night! My friend said she gets 2 k to a 5 k tip on a regular basis and that's no barfine. Easy to say these newbie's need to calm down but when stuck in some pussy prison country, easier said than done.

Sammon
02-10-23, 02:12
Its first time tourist raising these prices. I don't know how many girls text me some first time toursit from USA. Australia. Europe going bat shit crazy when they enter the bar. There is much more exposer now to our monger destination's online than there has ever been. Men watch this stuff and dream. Save up all year and get a 20 year old hottie on their lap and they go insane. You must remember allot of these guys never had women like that even when they were young. So yes they go ape shit crazy. Girls told me of a recent American, takes 3 girl's, tipped waitress 5000 and gave the girls 10 K each plus the barfines and drinks, and that was his first night! My friend said she gets 2 k to a 5 k tip on a regular basis and that's no barfine. Easy to say these newbie's need to calm down but when stuck in some pussy prison country, easier said than done.Concur. Very few places in the world a guy will get a young girl cheap. Only in Philippines. This irrespective of looks, age, well dressed, smelling good. Even in USA a hooker has her standards. She will pick and choose who she goes out with if she is not a drug addict, ugly, over the hill. Some guys go hung ho and throw money like crazy not knowing they can get better deal with less money. We all were enamored when we came first time to Philippines for mongering. But things were dirt cheap at that time. People were poorer and seemingly normal girl had no choice but to work in bars and go with everyone to make a living. Now girls come to make lots of money with people bragging and spending like crazy. Downside is this creates inflation for everyone else. Leads to lap dance only, drinks only, no barfine, . When I first went to Philippines there was no tipping in the morning. Girls told me there is no need to give extra money. Now hands come out for tip.

Goferring
02-10-23, 05:25
Concur....Some guys go hung ho and throw money like crazy not knowing they can get better deal with less money.

We all were enamored when we came first time to Philippines for mongering. But things were dirt cheap at that time. People were poorer and seemingly normal girl had no choice but to work in bars and go with everyone to make a living..I use to get bitter and twisted over newbies coming in, throwing money around, and spoiling the market. Now I realise it's actually a benefit as they attract the cuties and a critical mass of girls in one place who will still happily accept 1 k from a known resident or old contact when the Warrior has gone and the rent is due. While one girl may be busy with the newbie, there are always many others to choose from. Does anyone really get concerned because one girl isn't available??

In many ways nothing has changed. 30 years ago, PH was a remote, difficult and expensive place to get too. If the same effort is out into getting to less travelled provinces, then the same fresh, cheap and eager girls are available. Now, as then, they only seek a pittance, if anything at all, and will say thanks in all the right ways. It's only the areas withing reach of discount flights and wide eyes travellers that have been negatively affected.

When in doubt, go west young man!!

Enjoy. G.

Nolz7
02-10-23, 05:31
Does anybody know a clinic to get a prescription for viagra in Ermita area? Or better yet, does anybody know a pharmacy that does not require prescription for viagra in Ermita. I'm visiting in two weeks. Thanks.

WestCoast1
02-10-23, 10:49
The Philippines is the place I go for either large variety with guaranteed BBFS (easier here than anywhere else in the world) at a reasonable price (under 100 USD all night or less than 50 USD ST) or to hook up with dating site girls. With all due respect to come here and pay 5000 or 8000 or 10000 Peso for an average fuck is like paying $50 for a Mcdonalds burger just cause you have cash to throw around. A $5 burger doesn't taste better because you pay 10 X for it. Same with Filipina pussy.Respectfully EA, that's a generalization. Those prices don't apply everywhere in Phils. 10 k for Burgos girls is the norm, which hasn't changed in the past decade. 5 k in AC has become a norm, with sketchy service, which is quite a change. Both of those areas combined involve less than a 1000 girls. So many other options are available in Phils, for less money.

The dividing issue is that there are limited options for the vacationing warrior, and Burgos / AC are the quickest and easiest ways to get satisfaction in the shortest time. That they are the most expensive options has not changed. As long as the Koreans are flooding AC, you will see the higher prices there. Factor in the death of EDSA and the loss of girls there, and prices go up. Those who have more time on their hands and are not worried about occasional failure / denial / rejection, will do better on prices. Guys who are on a time leash need a girl TONIGHT, and pay for the convenience.

BTW, I previously recommended all punters head directly to AC, as NCR was still insisting on covid rules in public places. That appears to have disappeared. You may go maskless almost anywhere now, and most hotels / condos have reverted their guest policy back to taking the ID of the girl and allowing her up. Get in there, get a week in both places, get some mocha flesh.


Hear, hear. Overpaying is for insecure guys. Besides I often find filipino pussy pricing inversely correlated with the performance level. A good rule of thumb in any market is to pay 10 x the local price of a haircut for an ST. I see the haircuts now go for P 50-60 so we are already grossly overpaying at the P 1-1. 5 K level.Have never heard that haircut thing before. Assuming that is a rule of thumb, where in Makati or Malate are you getting a haircut for p50? Street salons are at 150-300, and mall salons are 500 for a simple buzz cut. I routinely get my hair cut in the province for p150, and a mate chides me there because he gets it for p80.


Besides I often find filipino pussy pricing inversely correlated with the performance level.Concur. I find a higher percentage of star-fishing from high-priced guapas. Or additionally she has other requirements (time constraint, such as 1 pop or 1 hour), or must have a condom, or such.


Agreed. The market is getting overpriced.Concur, the covid price jump in some places outmatched other inflationary price jumps. Nobody mentioned that during pandemic, prices mostly plummeted (read Beavis: Can of sardines) for those of us here. Now the floodgates opened to only a trickle of week-long warriors (see below, DOT), they are paying a premium. I think the premium has to do with an influx of money in the areas where the price jumped:


To many visitors coming here and playing Mr. Big and throwing cash around. In reality the girls willingly grab the money and think the guy is a fool.Mr. Big is Korean. While I rarely carry more than 10 K on me (from the ATM to my place, where I lock up half of it; 10 k lasts 4-5 days), they carry 50 K (or more) and dump it in a day. They exchange their K-won for pesos at the mall money changer, walking out with half a million or more pesos. I saw 3 of them walk out of a mall money changer with a combined p6+ million; it took them 15 minutes just to count it to their satisfaction before departing (just guessing that they contacted the mall money changer a day or so prior to let them know that they would later be changing LARGE). He's not playing Big, he IS Big. I am sure Napa has similar stories of the AC K's.

OTOH, DOT numbers (previously posted here) show that last year's visitors count was just under 1 million (Feb 2022 thru December 2022), versus 2019's 8+ million visitors. Its the gringos that are shying away. When they do show up, they are playing catch-up to Mr. K.


Yes, It is increasingly unattractive to plan just for our hobby now.I agree. Thailand appears to be the call. Patts. Phils is a terrible place for the game. Leave the pinay alone for me and my handful of medical associates to vaccinate.

Pics of several lasses I've been having for some time, including the past few months.

Expat American
02-10-23, 11:31
Respectfully EA, that's a generalization. Those prices don't apply everywhere in Phils. 10 k for Burgos girls is the norm, which hasn't changed in the past decade. 5 k in AC has become a norm, with sketchy service, which is quite a change. Both of those areas combined involve less than a 1000 girls. So many other options are available in Phils, for less money.

The dividing issue is that there are limited options for the vacationing warrior, and Burgos / AC are the quickest and easiest ways to get satisfaction in the shortest time. That they are the most expensive options has not changed. As long as the Koreans are flooding AC, you will see the higher prices there. Factor in the death of EDSA and the loss of girls there, and prices go up. Those who have more time on their hands and are not worried about occasional failure / denial / rejection, will do better on prices. Guys who are on a time leash need a girl TONIGHT, and pay for the convenience.

.I fully agree with you. The PI is still a third world country where the average wage in a store or restaurant is 300 peso per day. That involves standing for 10 hours. The barrier to entry into sex work is not very high. So there is still exists an unlimited deep pool of pussy but Burgos street bars is not the place to find it. Nor is AC anymore, sadly. The true gems will be found either online or through normal channels. But that of course requires some more time on the ground, some game, and some confidence. I had my pick of beauties in Cebu that were total non pros and totally happy with 1000 to 1500 Peso gifts.

JusRide
02-10-23, 12:00
Mr. Big is Korean. While I rarely carry more than 10 K on me (from the ATM to my place, where I lock up half of it; 10 k lasts 4-5 days), they carry 50 K (or more) and dump it in a day. They exchange their K-won for pesos at the mall money changer, walking out with half a million or more pesos. I saw 3 of them walk out of a mall money changer with a combined p6+ million; it took them 15 minutes just to count it to their satisfaction before departing (just guessing that they contacted the mall money changer a day or so prior to let them know that they would later be changing LARGE). He's not playing Big, he IS Big. I am sure Napa has similar stories of the AC K's.
I've witnessed K customers literally throwing 1 k bills from the second floor down to the stage at Club XS. They're nuts and just show boating. The other problem I've experienced on why the girls prefer K customer's in addition to the money is that girls have said they're quick and smaller than average.

Also witnessed a K customer at a casino a few years back at Newport Resort World, sitting there with a stack about 2 inches high of 1 k pesos and just burning through the money like they were 50 peso bills. Crazy.

Zhangsan
02-10-23, 13:16
How I wish it was possible to offer a business where an experienced monger (such as myself) has a vetted list of slim girls that will make this work.

A) Meet the visitor at the airport, accompany him to hotel. Flirting in the car. Assist with check-in.

B1) Take monger to 3-4 bars or.

B2) Arrange dinner dates with vetted list of tall hot spinners.

C) Ensure he scores.

Could easily do this with a vetted list of 10 girls which can be rotated through the various visitors over the months given most people are 1-2 week visits in this market.I kid you not, I would happily pay through the nose for a service like this. Wish we had something akin to Japan's Universe Club for every country!

Zhangsan
02-10-23, 13:19
Plan be wasn't the best before it closed, that's why I've not been back since it reopened. You made me laugh with comment about girls standing on stage looking bored, that's exactly what used to happen previously!

Shame you didn't have a good time though, there are some great places you can have a lot of fun with good looking girls.I can almost be ok with looking bored, but when two of them leaned back and started to take huge vape hits on stage, I couldn't help but start to laugh my ass off!

Zhangsan
02-10-23, 13:36
Respectfully EA, that's a generalization. Those prices don't apply everywhere in Phils. 10 k for Burgos girls is the norm, which hasn't changed in the past decade. 5 k in AC has become a norm, with sketchy service, which is quite a change. Both of those areas combined involve less than a 1000 girls. So many other options are available in Phils, for less money.

The dividing issue is that there are limited options for the vacationing warrior, and Burgos / AC are the quickest and easiest ways to get satisfaction in the shortest time. That they are the most expensive options has not changed. As long as the Koreans are flooding AC, you will see the higher prices there. Factor in the death of EDSA and the loss of girls there, and prices go up. Those who have more time on their hands and are not worried about occasional failure / denial / rejection, will do better on prices. Guys who are on a time leash need a girl TONIGHT, and pay for the convenience.
This was exactly was it for me. This trip was meant to be a mix of business and pleasure. Meet some of my employees and partners, then relax for a few days. The first three days of work with play as a side deal showed me everything I needed to know. My pleasure dollars were best spent elsewhere. PH seems like a better place for people who are time-rich than money-rich for now, so its just not going to be my cup of tea. I'll check back in a few years, maybe! .

GDreams
02-10-23, 15:53
This was exactly was it for me. This trip was meant to be a mix of business and pleasure. Meet some of my employees and partners, then relax for a few days. The first three days of work with play as a side deal showed me everything I needed to know. My pleasure dollars were best spent elsewhere. PH seems like a better place for people who are time-rich than money-rich for now, so its just not going to be my cup of tea. I'll check back in a few years, maybe! .I paid 4000 p for girls to stay overnight all from dating sites. These girls were 19 - 21. I had a 25 yo willing to come for 3000 but she looked a little overweight and I like skinny girls. I had a few offers of 5000 but ended up going for repeats because they met my tastes and I'm happy to be with people of known performance. I'm sure some would come for less but these girls paid their own transport, others will ask for taxi or grab. I am sure a lot of older girls will settle for less but young and pretty are more difficult to persuade for a +60 yo. A hot model offered 10,000. A 19 yo off TANTAN I am working on for my return that is mainly interested in trying out a foreigner and some kinky sex fantasies. If you can get hot and slim for less than 4000 overnight in Manila then congrats but I was happy with the service and the package which is the only thing that matters for me.

Goferring
02-10-23, 19:34
I kid you not, I would happily pay through the nose for a service like this. Wish we had something akin to Japan's Universe Club for every country!There have been a few such service providers over the years in various countries. Some very good. Jakarta After Dark jumps to mind. Others may know of PH based guides.

It would be a brave man to openly offer such services today. It would only be a matter of time before things went south. Most of the older ones ran well for a while then collapsed, often spectacularly.

Enjoy. G.

*Edit. I was referring to APs notion of a tour guide for mongers rather than a Sugar site. There are numerous Sugar or middleman sites available now.

Goferring
02-10-23, 19:54
Have never heard that haircut thing before..I've also never used the haircut comparison. I've just used a nights stay of an equivalent standard as the girl. $200 for a nice girl / room in a big city down to $30 for begars can't be choosers out of town.

It's an approximate match and a good starting point.

Enjoy. G.

Dg8787
02-11-23, 17:51
I've also never used the haircut comparison. I've just used a nights stay of an equivalent standard as the girl. $200 for a nice girl / room in a big city down to $30 for begars can't be choosers out of town.

It's an approximate match and a good starting point.

Enjoy. G.I too have never ever heard of the haircut comparison chart.

There really isn't a commodity comparison chart. Some may use a rule of thumb but that is all it is. It always boils down to, is it worth it to you or not at that moment in time?

Pute Nut
02-11-23, 18:23
I too have never ever heard of the haircut comparison chart.
There really isn't a commodity comparison chart. Some may use a rule of thumb but that is all it is. Mr Strawman, if you read my OP that's what I called it: "a good rule of thumb". It's supposed to be a loose, lighthearted indicator for pussy pricing, and perhaps not autistically interpretated as a hard rule.

Good luck on proving a negative BTW.

Nsugen
02-14-23, 03:59
As I'm doing my due diligence by RTFF, I have a quick question. Now that Jollibee has become more popular, seems like Filipinas are becoming fatter. Is that excess fat giving them some shapely booties? Or is all that nasty fried chicken going straight to their gut? I love Asian women with ass, so I'm praying all that fried goodness is popping out their booties.

Dg8787
02-14-23, 18:35
As I'm doing my due diligence by RTFF, I have a quick question. Now that Jollibee has become more popular, seems like Filipinas are becoming fatter. Is that excess fat giving them some shapely booties? Or is all that nasty fried chicken going straight to their gut? I love Asian women with ass, so I'm praying all that fried goodness is popping out their booties.It has been addressed many times over previous reports. Please read the reports.

MohdirFan82
02-14-23, 23:33
Genetically majority of Filipinas grow fat around their shoulders, face, belly and upper part of the body.

Rarely seldom fat deposits lower part of body unlike Africans.

Booty is the last thing grows on Filipinas sadly.

I also prefer coke google shape but safely they are hard to come by.

Indonesian and Thais have high chance of growing booties and thighs.


As I'm doing my due diligence by RTFF, I have a quick question. Now that Jollibee has become more popular, seems like Filipinas are becoming fatter. Is that excess fat giving them some shapely booties? Or is all that nasty fried chicken going straight to their gut? I love Asian women with ass, so I'm praying all that fried goodness is popping out their booties.

WestCoast1
02-14-23, 23:39
As I'm doing my due diligence by RTFF, I have a quick question. Now that Jollibee has become more popular, seems like Filipinas are becoming fatter. Is that excess fat giving them some shapely booties? Or is all that nasty fried chicken going straight to their gut? I love Asian women with ass, so I'm praying all that fried goodness is popping out their booties.Nsugen, send me a PM, I have some thoughts for you.

WestCoast1
02-16-23, 13:31
Good evening gents. One of my twiglets before the ditty. Enjoy.

Trvllvr58
02-17-23, 03:53
Because I do not see any info on BBBJ and / or BBFS. The closest info I see is this:

"Do your escorts provide GFE service?

Yes, they do, but remember that hygiene plays a key role in ensuring that you have a great time with our models. ".

Here is the link to the FAQ: https://manilacourtesans.com/faqs-2/.

Thanks for any additional info you have about them.Sorry about that. Thought it was in the FAQ, but it was probably in a communication from "Jennifer" who handles the booking. Anyway, if it's BB you seek I don't recommend Manila Courtesans.

Sir Lancelot
02-17-23, 10:35
After nearly 24 hours of planes, trains and automobiles, I was excited to touch down in Manila. It's 10 years since I last visited Philippines and I was excited to be back. I took a metered cab from the airport and my driver was a jovial chap called Jimmy. Within five minutes he offered me 'beautiful girl for massage'. We passed the KTVs on Roxas Boulevard before pulling up to my hotel.

When I booked on Agoda there was a dearth of decent midrange hotels in the Ermita area, so I opted for Citystate Tower, a place I've stayed at before due to its proximity to LA Cafe. My room is decent but lacks two important things, a safe and a window. It does have aircon though, as I'm constantly reminded by the continual rumbling. I paid 9000 pesos for three nights, which seems a lot for the quality of the room. I don't mind too much because it's all about location in Manila for me.

After quickly unpacking and hiding my cash in a rolled-up sock, somewhere a would-be thief would never think to look, I headed out to meet my friend Macca. It was 11 pm and sleep was a tempting proposition but it was good to catch up over a quiet beer. We met at G point, on the opposite block to my hotel, a bar popular with expats as it has an extensive western food menu and a number of generally older freelance girls. I got my first wink of the trip from a foxy girl wearing double denim.

I was excited to enter LA Cafe, undoubtedly one of my favourite pay-for-play venues in Asia. To those that haven't been, it's a bar teeming with freelancers. We were shown to stools next to the circular bar and returned the glances and smiles of girls, standing three deep around us. It was 11.45 on a Thursday night and the place was packed. In fact it was exactly how I remembered it 10 years ago and the quality of girls similar too. A lot were not my cup of tea but there were plenty of foxy chicks and pretty younger ones too.

I've taken some great girls from here in the past and I knew I wouldn't struggle to over the next three nights.

A pretty 26 year old with curly hair told me that I was handsome, so I told her my fee is 1000 but for her I'd come down to 500. Sadly she didn't take me up on the offer. Despite the fact there are many, many eager girls, there is very little pressure for drinks. They just wait to be called over. Occasionally an older, more experienced girl will find an excuse to chat with you but generally it's a relaxed place. My San Miguel cost 130 pesos.

In past trips upstairs is the place to secure the prettiest girls. There is a 100 peso entrance charge and usually live music. We found a table and although there were a fraction of the number of girls, there is definitely some eye candy. On the next table a bald-headed European man was clinking glasses with a very pretty girl in a figure-hugging yellow top. Most of the prettiest girls on the second floor make a beeline to the area to the right of the stairs, where generally Korean customers congregate, lucrative targets for any business-savvy working girl.

It's worth pointing out though that the pretty girls 'do the rounds' in LA Cafe. They'll alternate between the floors, so you'll see them scouting customers in the bearpit on the ground floor too.

Macca (who I'm legally obliged to tell you isn't Paul McCartney) and I went back down to the ground floor and found stools next to the bar. The pretty 26 year old I chatted with earlier was chatting with a man with grey hair and an uncanny resemblance to Gary Glitter. A pretty blond dressed in all white with braces on her teeth told me her name was Cherry. To quote Britney, I bet she's not that innocent.

Fifteen minutes later two foxy older girls approached us, Charlene and Angelica, the latter of whom tempted me. She was probably late 20's but was a guaranteed good time.

As ever in places like this, it's like a game of blackjack. Stick or twist?

By 2 am the number of girls downstairs have thinned out, but that's not to say there aren't plenty to choose from. A table nearby had a group of young Korean men who were chatting with some nice girls. One of them kept smiling over to me who had a lovely face but slightly off-putting teeth. She had a cute, innocent looking friend who was a little bit chubby but had temptingly large tits.

Suddenly my long day of travel caught up with me so I decided it was time to take a girl.

One of the best girls I've ever met at LA Cafe was a dark-skinned girl I nicknamed Amazonian Princess due to her fabulous figure. She had big blowjob lips and provided me with some of the best sex I've ever had, as the fingernail scratches down my back proved. So when I saw a similar looking girl smiling at me from the other side of the bar I couldn't resist calling her over. Her name was Rosalyn, she was 28 from Mindanao, and was wearing a lacy top that showed off her skinny figure. She had a pretty face, a nose piercing and long curly hair.

It was time to talk numbers. She quoted me 3000 for short-time but immediately accepted my counter-offer of 2000. Ten minutes later we were showering back in my room.

She was very skinny with small tits. Amusingly, when we lay on the bed she told me that I smiled so much in the bar she thought I was gay! As a result I did feel a bit of pressure to prove to her over the next hour I wasn't. She was a fantastic kisser and soon I was pulling her red lacy knickers off.

She played 'How Do I Live Without You' by Leane Rhymes on her phone as I slowly slid in to her tight pussy. At first she was groaning and tightening her face but fifteen minutes later she was riding me confidently and kissing me passionately. As I'm a gentleman, after I shot my load I invited her to sit on my face. She really got in to it, grinding her pussy with vigour until she came.

Afterwards she was sleepy so I invited her to stay the night. She agreed, so the 2000 short-time we agreed in the bar ended up being for longtime. She was cuddly and affectionate, although if I'm being critical, she took far too much of the bed for such a small girl.

I drifted off to sleep with a smile on my face. It was good to be back in Philippines. This trip I'll be spending three nights in Manila, followed by trips to Angeles, Cebu and Coron, then a final week in Pattaya. Tonight had been a great start.

Locamotive
02-17-23, 21:32
After nearly 24 hours of planes, trains and automobiles, I was excited to touch down in Manila. It's 10 years since I last visited Philippines and I was excited to be back. I took a metered cab from the airport and my driver was a jovial chap called Jimmy. Within five minutes he offered me 'beautiful girl for massage'. We passed the KTVs on Roxas Boulevard before pulling up to my hotel.

When I booked on Agoda there was a dearth of decent midrange hotels in the Ermita area, so I opted for Citystate Tower, a place I've stayed at before due to its proximity to LA Cafe. My room is decent but lacks two important things, a safe and a window. It does have aircon though, as I'm constantly reminded by the continual rumbling. I paid 9000 pesos for three nights, which seems a lot for the quality of the room. I don't mind too much because it's all about location in Manila for me.

After quickly unpacking and hiding my cash in a rolled-up sock, somewhere a would-be thief would never think to look, I headed out to meet my friend Macca. It was 11 pm and sleep was a tempting proposition but it was good to catch up over a quiet beer. We met at G point, on the opposite block to my hotel, a bar popular with expats as it has an extensive western food menu and a number of generally older freelance girls. I got my first wink of the trip from a foxy girl wearing double denim.

I was excited to enter LA Cafe, undoubtedly one of my favourite pay-for-play venues in Asia. To those that haven't been, it's a bar teeming with freelancers. We were shown to stools next to the circular bar and returned the glances and smiles of girls, standing three deep around us. It was 11.45 on a Thursday night and the place was packed. In fact it was exactly how I remembered it 10 years ago and the quality of girls similar too. A lot were not my cup of tea but there were plenty of foxy chicks and pretty younger ones too.

I've taken some great girls from here in the past and I knew I wouldn't struggle to over the next three nights.

A pretty 26 year old with curly hair told me that I was handsome, so I told her my fee is 1000 but for her I'd come down to 500. Sadly she didn't take me up on the offer. Despite the fact there are many, many eager girls, there is very little pressure for drinks. They just wait to be called over. Occasionally an older, more experienced girl will find an excuse to chat with you but generally it's a relaxed place. My San Miguel cost 130 pesos.

In past trips upstairs is the place to secure the prettiest girls. There is a 100 peso entrance charge and usually live music. We found a table and although there were a fraction of the number of girls, there is definitely some eye candy. On the next table a bald-headed European man was clinking glasses with a very pretty girl in a figure-hugging yellow top. Most of the prettiest girls on the second floor make a beeline to the area to the right of the stairs, where generally Korean customers congregate, lucrative targets for any business-savvy working girl.

It's worth pointing out though that the pretty girls 'do the rounds' in LA Cafe. They'll alternate between the floors, so you'll see them scouting customers in the bearpit on the ground floor too.

Macca (who I'm legally obliged to tell you isn't Paul McCartney) and I went back down to the ground floor and found stools next to the bar. The pretty 26 year old I chatted with earlier was chatting with a man with grey hair and an uncanny resemblance to Gary Glitter. A pretty blond dressed in all white with braces on her teeth told me her name was Cherry. To quote Britney, I bet she's not that innocent.

Fifteen minutes later two foxy older girls approached us, Charlene and Angelica, the latter of whom tempted me. She was probably late 20's but was a guaranteed good time.

As ever in places like this, it's like a game of blackjack. Stick or twist?

By 2 am the number of girls downstairs have thinned out, but that's not to say there aren't plenty to choose from. A table nearby had a group of young Korean men who were chatting with some nice girls. One of them kept smiling over to me who had a lovely face but slightly off-putting teeth. She had a cute, innocent looking friend who was a little bit chubby but had temptingly large tits.

Suddenly my long day of travel caught up with me so I decided it was time to take a girl.

One of the best girls I've ever met at LA Cafe was a dark-skinned girl I nicknamed Amazonian Princess due to her fabulous figure. She had big blowjob lips and provided me with some of the best sex I've ever had, as the fingernail scratches down my back proved. So when I saw a similar looking girl smiling at me from the other side of the bar I couldn't resist calling her over. Her name was Rosalyn, she was 28 from Mindanao, and was wearing a lacy top that showed off her skinny figure. She had a pretty face, a nose piercing and long curly hair.

It was time to talk numbers. She quoted me 3000 for short-time but immediately accepted my counter-offer of 2000. Ten minutes later we were showering back in my room.

She was very skinny with small tits. Amusingly, when we lay on the bed she told me that I smiled so much in the bar she thought I was gay! As a result I did feel a bit of pressure to prove to her over the next hour I wasn't. She was a fantastic kisser and soon I was pulling her red lacy knickers off.

She played 'How Do I Live Without You' by Leane Rhymes on her phone as I slowly slid in to her tight pussy. At first she was groaning and tightening her face but fifteen minutes later she was riding me confidently and kissing me passionately. As I'm a gentleman, after I shot my load I invited her to sit on my face. She really got in to it, grinding her pussy with vigour until she came.

Afterwards she was sleepy so I invited her to stay the night. She agreed, so the 2000 short-time we agreed in the bar ended up being for longtime. She was cuddly and affectionate, although if I'm being critical, she took far too much of the bed for such a small girl.

I drifted off to sleep with a smile on my face. It was good to be back in Philippines. This trip I'll be spending three nights in Manila, followed by trips to Angeles, Cebu and Coron, then a final week in Pattaya. Tonight had been a great start.Congrats on your return after 10 years. 10 years is a long time and so does inflation. 2000 with a cutie turned into a LT is certainly not the norm anymore, not even close. Unless she just really really liked you or you're Brad Pitts twin I wouldn't expect a repeat of that. Certainly not in Makati and bars on Burgos, girls would be insulted with that price. Girls in the bars get regular tips that much with no barfine. Anyway, welcome back and good hunting.

AsianPursuits
02-17-23, 22:34
I drifted off to sleep with a smile on my face. It was good to be back in Philippines. This trip I'll be spending three nights in Manila, followed by trips to Angeles, Cebu and Coron, then a final week in Pattaya. Tonight had been a great start.Welcome back. Great report. I nominate this as a Report of Distinction.

Simon Says
02-18-23, 04:39
Hi folks.

Do any board members have insight on a pharmacy in Ermita where I can pick up Cialis or Viagra without a prescription?

I know there are some pharmacies that offer this, I'm just hoping I can avoid going to a dozen locations until I locate one.

Thanks for any advice.

Simon.

Sir Lancelot
02-18-23, 05:09
After waving Rosalyn goodbye I spent an enjoyable afternoon doing some sightseeing with Macca. I walked through Rizal Park (the Chinese gardens are particularly nice) to Intramuros, the old town with lots of Spanish architecture. We visited the cathedral, Fort Santiago and stopped for numerous refreshment breaks.

If the architecture doesn't interest you, there are lots of pretty Filipinas to admire. I noticed one filming me on her phone as I was walking past so, much to her amusement, put my arm around her and gave her a selfie of us both I'm sure she'll treasure forever.

By the time we got back to our hotels, Macca's fitbit said we'd walked 5 miles. I bought a few big bottles of water and snacks for my room from the 7 Eleven next to my hotel and had a lazy couple of hours in my room.

Soon it was time to shower and shave and head out for another night in Manila. We were due to start for a drink at the intriguingly named Oarhouse but Macca intercepted me on the street outside and told me it wasn't our scene, just a lot of old Korean men chain-smoking. So we went to the equally intriguingly named Bedrock for a beer instead, an outdoor court surrounded by bars.

Korea Town seems quite an interesting part of town, with lots of bars, KTVs and places advertising 24 Hour Massage. With more time in the city I'd be tempted to visit some of these establishments, all in the name of investigative journalism of course. Just the phrase KTV makes my wallet shudder in fear and I suspect the most you can have at the massage place is an overpriced handjob. Happy to be proved wrong though.

Manila feels edgy at night. The streets are dark, young kids thrust their hands out looking for a few pesos and freelancers call 'Hello, mister' from dark corners. I love it. I always try to have a few coins in my back pocket to give them. The kids, not the streetwalkers.

We entered LA Cafe at 9 pm and were shown to stools that weren't ideally located, in a narrow part of the bar. Much better to sit somewhere where you can see lots of girls standing around, trying to meet your glance. In the past I've had quite a bit of success standing near the pool tables on the ground floor. You pretend to watch the pool but really you are looking at the girls who usually always go in to the female toilet to freshen up when they arrive.

It was Friday night and although the place was busy, the male to female ratio had swung significantly in favour of the girls. There were at least double the number of guys. Perhaps Friday night is when a lot of the expats come out to play.

We went upstairs and scored the best table, facing the top of the steps. It gives the ideal vantage point to make eye contact with pretty girls before anyone else. Well that's the theory anyway, a lot of the prettiest have tunnel vision and turn right immediately towards the Korean section. It's quite a funny spectacle. They'll line up at the side and wait to be summoned to sit next to a Korean customer for half an hour of zero conversation. It all seems very businesslike and boring to me, but I can't blame the girls wanting to make as much money as possible.

Our perfect table immediately yielded results. A very pretty girl confidently approached and introduced herself as Precious. She was a lovely girl but I got the impression was more interested in introducing us to her less good-looking friend. She quickly moved to the next table where her advances worked on a young Korean man.

Shortly afterwards I saw a standout girl reach the top of the stairs. She had the face of an angel and a fantastic figure, one of the most beautiful girls I've seen in a long time. I smiled and she came to my table.

'My name Keisha' she said.

'I'm Lance' I said, struggling to contain my excitement.

'Where you from?

'China'. She laughed and I told her England. Her next question surprised me.

'Are you here for girl?

'Yes. You'.

'Oh okay. Problem is my fee is 7000, is that okay?

'How many days is that for?' I joked and she punched me on the arm.

'How much you give?' she asked.

I told her I would think about it. 'Okay, I go now, look out for me' she said. For at least the next two hours I watched as she worked the room and weaved her magic on customers, mainly older Koreans, but it was noticeable that she didn't leave with any.

I found our conversation interesting. Firstly she didn't waste any time getting down to business, asking if I was looking for a girl. Pretty girls like her don't want their time wasted with idle chit-chat. Secondly I know that the prettiest girls sometimes ask for 5000 at LA Cafe but I've never heard of 7000. I'm not a giddy first-timer in Asia and I promise you, this girl is one of the prettiest I've ever seen. I presume she feels she can ask for what she likes and eventually someone will pay.

It was interesting how apologetic she sounded when she quoted the price ('problem is my price is 7000', is that okay? And then immediately asked what I'd like to pay. I reckon she deliberately quotes high fully expecting to be haggled down to 5000, which she'll happily take. It's a high price but she's a stunner for sure.

By midnight upstairs was packed, as a band belted out cover versions. 'Alone' by Heart was played, which I found ironic.

I went to the toilet and felt on edge when the toilet attendant started massaging my shoulders as I washed my hands. Ten years ago this happened and the 'masseur' placed his hands either side of my head and quickly wrenched my neck left and right, making it click loudly. I thought he was trying to assassinate me.

Last night I sat at the circular bar next to a pretty girl with wavy hair and she acted off with me. I have no idea why as I didn't even talk to her but each time I glanced in her direction she gave me the evils. Tonight she was a different person though and flashed me a big smile and came over to talk.

'Why you angry with me last night?' I asked.

'I was in baaaaaaad mood last night' she replied, before pointing to her cute but slightly chubby friend. 'You like?' I've noticed a lot of the prettier girls act as talent agent for their friends. After she left, Macca said he'd like to go with her but feared she eat him alive.

There were other pretty girls too. A tall skinny blond walked past several times, scouting the room. A girl I was flirting with yesterday was sat nearby with a customer so I pretended to cry which made her laugh. A cute girl with a sweet and innocent appeal kept positioning herself close but I was put off by her slightly chunky thighs.

'I would be a really good hooker' mused Macca but before I had chance to ask why, a familiar face reappeared. It was Precious from earlier in the night, this time without her friend. Earlier in the night I was put off as she seemed too pro but now she was fun and flirty, laughing and high-fiving at every opportunity. I bought her an expensive drink (400 pesos) and knew I'd found my girl.

She asked for 4000 for short-time but accepted 3000. She was definitely one of the prettier girls so I suspected she wouldn't go too low. Haggling too hard affects service in my experience.

It was only as we were taking the five minute walk back to my hotel that I realised how small she was. 'I'm four foot eleven' she told me.

She undressed as soon as she entered my room, revealing a sexy body and small tits. I lay next to her on the bed and immediately she unzipped my shorts and gave me a nice blowjob, getting me hard and ready for action. As I rolled a condom on she said 'wow you so big'. I'm not big by western standards but it's always nice hearing a girl say so, not least because it suggests she hasn't been with many western men. 'Go slowly' she added as I slid in to her tight pussy.

At first I was gentle with her as she tightened her face like she was in pain, but five minutes later I was giving her a good pounding as she kissed me passionately. My room has got an armchair so I sat on that and she rode me as I sucked her erect nipples. As she was so small I grabbed her arse-cheeks and lifted her up, fucking her as I was standing up. She seemed to really get in to it, wrapping her legs around me and thrusting her hips at me before groaning like she'd had an orgasm.

I lowered her on to the bed and fucked her in mish again but I find it easiest to come with the girl on top. She looked exceptionally pretty as she rocked her hips on mine, bringing me to a shuddering climax. 'I cum twice' she said proudly. Great session.

She happily agreed to pose for photos and I sent her on her way with a tip in her purse.

The night had a twist. I went to bed and fell asleep almost straight away. I'd been asleep for a few hours when I was woken by the phone next to my bed. It was reception informing me Precious had returned as she'd left a bracelet in my room. I had to laugh, it was a cheap one with beads, not really worth walking me up for!

On the bright side though, I got a few more kisses from her and her parting words were 'I fuck you again tomorrow'.

Sir Lancelot
02-19-23, 03:24
At about 4 am I felt sick and rushed to the bathroom. I was vomiting for half an hour before I returned to bed. I slept maybe an hour and then I was sick again. Over the course of the night I must have made five rushed visits to the bathroom. I assume it must have been caused by food poisoning. I ate very little today so either it was the sisig at lunch or the cheese toastie from the 7 Eleven later. Or maybe ice from the iced coffee in Intramuros.

Unsurprisingly it made a big impact on my day. I had planned to spend the day with Macca doing sightseeing but instead I lay in bed until 3. 30 in the afternoon. When I eventually felt well enough to get up I went to a nearby Mercury Drugstore and purchased sickness tablets.

Being up and about felt good so I walked to Robinsons and got myself a cold drink. It was Saturday afternoon and the mall was busy. I remember in previous trips the French Baker being stated as a good place to pick up freelancers, as it is located near the Adriatico entrance and has seating outside. I'm not sure whether that still applies these days. According to the forum freelancers tend to congregate around the main entrance.

I noticed that Amazonia is closed, which used to be a bar with a short time hotel above. Despite the fact it was a dive, I have fond recollections of the place and have been with some great girls in this building, now boarded up. I felt sad seeing the faded paint of its garish exterior.

Although I wasn't feeling 100% and hadn't eaten all day, I didn't want to waste my last night in Manila. I took another tablet and headed out in to the night. Walking along Mabini Street I passed two middle aged Korean men, both with exceptionally pretty girls at their side. The time was only 8. 30 so I assume they'd picked them up from one of the KTV joints.

My destination for the evening though was of course LA Cafe. As I neared it on MH Del Pilar Street I heard 'Lance, Lance!' shouted from the opposite side of the street. It was the Precious who I went with last night.

'Are you following me?' I joked.

She looked good and I said I'd meet her inside the bar later. Speaking of which, can anyone explain why LA Cafe has a life-size statue of a cow outside?

Macca and I secured stools opposite the entrance, a good place to see girls as they first arrive. I bought myself a bottle of water, as I didn't want to risk alcohol tonight and barely had I drank a few mouthfuls Precious appeared in front of me, marking her territory by kissing me on the lips.

My intention tonight had been to find another girl but but taking girls a second time never disappoints. She looked dazzling once again, with a very pretty smile, long silky hair, perfect eyebrows and flawless skin. Just a naturally sexy girl, dressed modestly in a brown dress. She was a lot of fun too, laughing manically at my jokes and singing to the songs the DJ was playing. We duetted a particularly rousing version of Starship's 'Nothing's going to Stop Us Now'. I found it amusing singing 'if this world runs out of lovers, we'll still have each other' to a sexy freelancer I'd only met one night ago.

Thumbs up for the music in LA Cafe, good selection, mainly 80's and 90's and at a volume so it's easy to chat.

I bought her a drink and asked her whether she gets any money for it. She told me girls don't get a cut, the bar gets all of the money. I wondered why that would be the case, then imagined how different it would be if LA Cafe had the same rules as a Thai style beer-bar for example. Girls would hassle customers for drinks relentlessly and one of the best things about LA Cafe is the lack of pressure from girls. They just stand around, smiling sweetly.

Ten minutes after Macca went back to his hotel to watch a football match from back home, Precious and I walked back to my hotel.

'Aha same girl tonight' the security guard said approvingly as he took her ID. They shared a joke in Tagalog and as we took the lift up to the third floor, she informed he'd told her not to forget her bracelet this time.

She wouldn't stop singing songs once we got to my room. She put soppy music on her phone and as she was giving me a blowjob would stop to sing the chorus to me, erection in hand. It was quite comical. She was sucking me expertly, then would stop to sing 'be my, be my baby'. Who says romance is dead?

The sex was great and we did lots of different positions to the night before, including doggy. She asked me to go slow which defeats the point of doggy in my opinion, but I did as I was told. When I asked her 'what your favourite position, you choose' she said 'me on top' and rode me expertly to a climax.

After she showered I watched her get changed and gave her the agreed 3000 pesos, plus tip. She'd been a great girl to spend time with.

Tomorrow I go to Angeles. Apart from the food poisoning I've had a great time in Manila. I was half expecting to be let down by LA Cafe but it is as good as ever, jam-packed with eager girls, many of them pretty and even a few outstanding ones. It remains one of my favourite bars in Asia.

This diary will continue on the Angeles thread.

WestCoast1
02-19-23, 05:48
I remember in previous trips the French Baker being stated as a good place to pick up freelancers, as it is located near the Adriatico entrance and has seating outside. I'm not sure whether that still applies these days. According to the forum freelancers tend to congregate around the main entrance.The French Baker is not a good place to pick up FL. Starbucks is choice, at the Pedro Gil entrance; sit at the tables inside the mall and face the atrium (the area where the Christmas tree is placed; pic attached).


I noticed that Amazonia is closed, which used to be a bar with a short time hotel above. Despite the fact it was a dive, I have fond recollections of the place and have been with some great girls in this building, now boarded up. I felt sad seeing the faded paint of its garish exterior.Amazonia caught fire and burned about 5 years ago. It closed for good a year or so prior. Also good memories playing pool there, and there was a regular live band that played 70's rock-and-roll.

You previously mentioned Bedrock bar. Its at the base of Birch Tower on Bocobo St. The bar area is called Belagio Square. Pic attached. Bedrock bar was previously on Adriatico St, it too burned about 7 years ago.

D Cups
02-19-23, 09:53
I noticed that Amazonia is closed, which used to be a bar with a short time hotel above. Despite the fact it was a dive, I have fond recollections of the place and have been with some great girls in this building, now boarded up. I felt sad seeing the faded paint of its garish exterior.

LA Cafe but it is as good as ever, jam-packed with eager girls, many of them pretty and even a few outstanding ones. It remains one of my favourite bars in Asia.
.Amazonia was also one of my faves getting BBBJs during football halftime in the upstairs bar. Sad to see it go. As for LA Cafe, yes, occasionally one finds a goodie. Cheers, buddy.

WestCoast1
02-19-23, 10:34
Hi folks.

Do any board members have insight on a pharmacy in Ermita where I can pick up Cialis or Viagra without a prescription?

I know there are some pharmacies that offer this, I'm just hoping I can avoid going to a dozen locations until I locate one.

Thanks for any advice.

Simon.Contact me in PM, I know a place.

Ss300
02-21-23, 05:57
So I read through a few threads but couldn't find much about the massage parlors. I went to airforce1 and it was closed. Tried wilderness, and man those body to body massages are a different experience. Get a good nut right after was awesome. Good selection, about 10 girls all good looking. Damage? 5 k. I tried Kremlin the next day, and although the place seemed better I only got to choose from 4 girls, and she was pleasant but not the best experience. Went back to wilderness and picked #13, she was clean shaved, did BBBJ after some body to body massage, scrubbed me down and I got me to finish in like 15 minutes. No extra charge for BBBJ. Other girls were really negotiating it heavily. I've seen some beautiful girls at the mall and just anywhere but can't imagine how I would pick one of them up. I'll stick to massage parlors. Although I'll tell you, coming from mongering in Mexico, seems like I'm paying alot. I'm not cheap, but I'm used to some good quality for half the price. Anyhow, I recommend wilderness, choose the 2500 room that has the body to body massage. It's a good experience!

AsianPursuits
02-21-23, 07:46
So I read through a few threads but couldn't find much about the massage parlors. I went to airforce1 and it was closed. Tried wilderness, and man those body to body massages are a different experience. Get a good nut right after was awesome. Good selection, about 10 girls all good looking. Damage? 5 k. I tried Kremlin the next day, and although the place seemed better I only got to choose from 4 girls, and she was pleasant but not the best experience. Went back to wilderness and picked #13, she was clean shaved, did BBBJ after some body to body massage, scrubbed me down and I got me to finish in like 15 minutes. No extra charge for BBBJ. Other girls were really negotiating it heavily. I've seen some beautiful girls at the mall and just anywhere but can't imagine how I would pick one of them up. I'll stick to massage parlors. Although I'll tell you, coming from mongering in Mexico, seems like I'm paying alot. I'm not cheap, but I'm used to some good quality for half the price. Anyhow, I recommend wilderness, choose the 2500 room that has the body to body massage. It's a good experience!So you are paying P2,500 for a massage plus P5,000 for a girl then some are paying extra?

I pickup dating site girls for P2 k all up and they stay all night.

I think you are playing the wrong game in Manila.

If it suits you, try pinalove, tinder and have someone stay over for a less.

GDreams
02-21-23, 08:51
Contact me in PM, I know a place.Mercury Pharmacies will all sell without prescription.

Ss300
02-22-23, 06:40
5 k total. They charge what ever the massage costs. So if the room / massage is 2500, youll be paying 5 k total. I'm not familiar with the dating sites, but would be down to try it.


So you are paying P2,500 for a massage plus P5,000 for a girl then some are paying extra?

I pickup dating site girls for P2 k all up and they stay all night.

I think you are playing the wrong game in Manila.

If it suits you, try pinalove, tinder and have someone stay over for a less..

Dashing Don
02-22-23, 16:49
A 34 yo New Zealand tourist was shot dead in Makati on Sunday night. About 1:30 am. With his Filipina by his side.

Two robbers demanded his stuff at gunpoint. He apparently went for the gun and got shot.

It happened in Makati but was on the wrong side of the Skyway.

AsianPursuits
02-22-23, 22:25
A 34 yo New Zealand tourist was shot dead in Makati on Sunday night. About 1:30 am. With his Filipina by his side.

Two robbers demanded his stuff at gunpoint. He apparently went for the gun and got shot.

It happened in Makati but was on the wrong side of the Skyway.Note to everyone here. Just give over your phone and any cash. It's a lot cheaper.

Sammon
02-23-23, 04:00
A 34 yo New Zealand tourist was shot dead in Makati on Sunday night. About 1:30 am. With his Filipina by his side.

Two robbers demanded his stuff at gunpoint. He apparently went for the gun and got shot.

It happened in Makati but was on the wrong side of the Skyway.Word of caution. Sometimes the girls are in on this. Never ever walk on the street past midnight. Take a cab even if it is walkable distance. None of the bystanders intervene if you are being robbed. Do not be a hero. Just handover your money. Carry only local money enough for your nightly excursion. Do not take your wallet, do not wear jewellery, expensive watch. Do not flash your cell phone. Although violent robbing is rare ending in death. Maybe this guy wanted to be an hero in front of the girl.

Drinky
02-23-23, 05:07
After quickly unpacking and hiding my cash in a rolled-up sock, somewhere a would-be thief would never think to look, I headed out to meet my friend Macca. It was 11 pm and sleep was a tempting proposition but it was good to catch up over a quiet beer. We met at G point, on the opposite block to my hotel, a bar popular with expats as it has an extensive western food menu and a number of generally older freelance girls. I got my first wink of the trip from a foxy girl wearing double denim.
.Thanks for the great review. Good to know G point is still going. 7 years since I have been to Manila. I really need to get back LOL.

Docwiltro
03-02-23, 08:52
Amazonia caught fire and burned about 5 years ago. It closed for good a year or so prior. Also good memories playing pool there, and there was a regular live band that played 70's rock-and-roll.

I always check out the state of the old Amazonia bar whenever I am in Manila: here it is as of a few months ago.

WestCoast1
03-02-23, 11:07
I always check out the state of the old Amazonia bar whenever I am in Manila: here it is as of a few months ago.After it burned, it was used as a flea market for a year or two. But that shut down and its been closed since at least the start of Covid. Ahhhhh. . . The good old daze.

Pekkakoo
03-02-23, 16:33
A 34 yo New Zealand tourist was shot dead in Makati on Sunday night. About 1:30 am. With his Filipina by his side.

Two robbers demanded his stuff at gunpoint. He apparently went for the gun and got shot.

It happened in Makati but was on the wrong side of the Skyway.Makati is safe but it is also a business district and therefore not many people there at night especially walking. That means it is good for robbers. At night I would feel more safe walking in shadier bar filled party areas where there are always people on the streets. Not a good idea to walk those quiet streets of Makati or close to big roads like Skyways etc. At night. Even worse idea to fight for your belongings if someone is holding a gun on you.

MrHappyKat
03-04-23, 09:22
I'm flying in 12 days, so I just started searching dating apps to pre-qualify one or two dates. I plan on doing a mix of app girls, freelancers (who can also be app girls of course), and BF girls over the 16 days I will be there.

One of the profiles I spotted tonight is for sisters (sadly not twins), aged 21 and? Who clearly say "two sisters looking to share " Based on the few pics I'd say they are more cute than hot, but definitely attractive if packaged for a threesome. They live an hour east of Makati in Taytay. Is that considered part of the city, or is it a province? (Not sure if that matters, but curious.).

Now this isn't Penthouse Forum, but based on all the reports I've read here this seems at the LEAST plausible that they are legit. And since they live a fair distance away from Makati and they are not super-hot, I expect I can negotiate a favorable deal, perhaps getting both of them for the same rate as one local, attractive FL.

My question: Am I thinking too hard (pun intended) with the wrong head? Is this really one of the classic set ups for disaster? Or absent any last-minute red flags, am I likely to score another 3-way, but this time with sisters?

Thanks for any advice offered.

Goferring
03-04-23, 12:43
My question: Am I thinking too hard (pun intended) with the wrong head? Is this really one of the classic set ups for disaster? Or absent any last-minute red flags, am I likely to score another 3-way, but this time with sisters?

Thanks for any advice offered.Their an hour out of town but still willing to bus in?

If they need cash sent first for travel or a sick brother, then it's a scam. Just walk away.

If they actually show up when you are in town, then pay your money and take your chances.

Enjoy. G.

AsianPursuits
03-06-23, 00:48
I'm flying in 12 days, so I just started searching dating apps to pre-qualify one or two dates. I plan on doing a mix of app girls, freelancers (who can also be app girls of course), and BF girls over the 16 days I will be there.

One of the profiles I spotted tonight is for sisters (sadly not twins), aged 21 and? Who clearly say "two sisters looking to share " Based on the few pics I'd say they are more cute than hot, but definitely attractive if packaged for a threesome. They live an hour east of Makati in Taytay. Is that considered part of the city, or is it a province? (Not sure if that matters, but curious.).
It's an exciting time. 12 days until you are in pussy heaven. A reminder that before you arrive you are shifting through hundreds of profiles trying to find gems. Once you are on the ground they will find you.

By all means amuse yourself and build your fantasy. Don't build any plans around them.

Also "sisters" like "cousins" is a very loose meaning in Ph.

Goferring
03-06-23, 20:36
Don't build any plans around them.That's the secret there. Don't spend hours sitting in a coffee shop waiting for them to show up or organising their travel. Go about your normal day and when the girls actually arrive be ready to act upon it. It's not at all unusual to have no shows or for them to be hours late.

Enjoy. G.

MohdirFan82
03-07-23, 13:19
I will be in Manila in few days. I have iPhone 14 pro max and it doesn't take sim anymore.

I am having hard time finding Esim, most tourist Esim have only data no local phone number.

Any idea guys? I used to just buy Smart Sim and it would work great.

Ghost D
03-08-23, 04:29
I will be in Manila in few days. I have iPhone 14 pro max and it doesn't take sim anymore.
I am having hard time finding Esim, most tourist Esim have only data no local phone number.
Any idea guys? I used to just buy Smart Sim and it would work great.Interesting topic, will be interested to see if any other members have solutions for this new technical challenge. .

The point of SIM's is to control who is connected to the network and charge accordingly, eSIM tech and capability have been available for about 15 years now, but Telcos have pushed back hard to remain in control, Apple has decided to break the telco model further and unsurprisingly there is resistance to this push in control.

To answer your question, currently it looks like all eSIM plans available are data only; as new Apple phones in the Philippines still support the SIM, or you can roam with a number from your home country, there has been a big push locally here to reduce scammers, fraud etc on telecom networks hence the introduction of SIM registration which is contributing to the current unavailability of local numbers available on eSIM, so those coming in on short stays are out of luck at the moment in securing a local number for making / receiving calls or SMS.

This may be of some use as it compares some of the currently available eSIM plans: https://www.phonetravelwiz.com/best-esims-for-the-philippines-guide/.

If you really want / need a local number then it looks like a cheap burner phone is the only option as of today, when eSIM phones becomes more widespread I do expect this to change so you can sign up for local numbers when travelling.

Maybe someone else here has a current workaround that I wasn't able to find?

AsianPursuits
03-08-23, 05:00
Maybe someone else here has a current workaround that I wasn't able to find?My work around is this:

Use a burner phone to register a local prepaid SIM number P50. Take up the data only plan on the eSim.

On the data phone register whatsapp, viber, line, DIA, pinalove etc using the local number. Ie the apps are on the eSim phone and the burner phone is just used to receive the authentication codes. Go around using whatsapp and the esim phone. Leave the burner phone in the room for checking once per day.

Mua Tur
03-08-23, 05:45
Interesting topic, will be interested to see if any other members have solutions for this new technical challenge. .
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so those coming in on short stays are out of luck at the moment in securing a local number for making / receiving calls or SMS.
...........I do agree with you. Its better choice to have local sim either shorter or longer stay.

But the fact is Philippine never have CDMA system applicable for ePhone. Only GSM. Moreover Philippine is still poorer in sim management. Its been few days Philippine started registration of SIM card that highly in need to avoid scamming and crime. Last January I was there and non authorized non recorded sims are available here and there I walk around.

JokersWild
03-09-23, 03:40
So I read through a few threads but couldn't find much about the massage parlors. I went to airforce1 and it was closed. Tried wilderness, and man those body to body massages are a different experience. Get a good nut right after was awesome. Good selection, about 10 girls all good looking. Damage? 5 k. I tried Kremlin the next day, and although the place seemed better I only got to choose from 4 girls, and she was pleasant but not the best experience. Went back to wilderness and picked #13, she was clean shaved, did BBBJ after some body to body massage, scrubbed me down and I got me to finish in like 15 minutes. No extra charge for BBBJ. Other girls were really negotiating it heavily. I've seen some beautiful girls at the mall and just anywhere but can't imagine how I would pick one of them up. I'll stick to massage parlors. Although I'll tell you, coming from mongering in Mexico, seems like I'm paying alot. I'm not cheap, but I'm used to some good quality for half the price. Anyhow, I recommend wilderness, choose the 2500 room that has the body to body massage. It's a good experience!I've been looking for a good nuru massage man, where exactly is this wilderness you speak of? I'll be in Manila in a week and will definitely look it up.

MohdirFan82
03-10-23, 19:07
I do agree with you. Its better choice to have local sim either shorter or longer stay.

But the fact is Philippine never have CDMA system applicable for ePhone. Only GSM. Moreover Philippine is still poorer in sim management. Its been few days Philippine started registration of SIM card that highly in need to avoid scamming and crime. Last January I was there and non authorized non recorded sims are available here and there I walk around.This is what I decided to do, just buy cheap burner phone and use it as code verifications.

WestCoast1
03-10-23, 22:47
Curvy beauty from the big city. Great eyes. Nice girl. Gets a vaxxing, collects the prize, moves on, comes back. Lather / rinse / repeats. Enjoy.

SlySteeler
03-12-23, 12:40
Curvy beauty from the big city. Great eyes. Nice girl. Gets a vaxxing, collects the prize, moves on, comes back. Lather / rinse / repeats. Enjoy.Hi there any possibility you can share any info on her? I'll be there this coming Saturday.

WestCoast1
03-12-23, 21:39
Hi there any possibility you can share any info on her? I'll be there this coming Saturday.Contact me in PM please.

Meistro1
03-15-23, 03:01
So after a number of disappointing experiences at LA Cafe, I finally struck gold.

So I enter the bar and right away get swarmed by a bunch of uggos. I find the least uggo of them. She looked kind of cute, early 30's, maybe a bit on the tall side for a filipino woman. From what I groped her body seemed alright. So we settled on 2 k but she walked when I insisted on bareback.

Anyway, then these three grannies swarm me. And they wouldn't go away. Now I'm a super nice person, so I just sort of shut down and hoped they would get the hint to fuck off. They're running their spiel, and then they ask me what sort of girl I want. So I tell them young (not too young! Over 18 thank you very much) and skinny. So one of the grannies leaves and comes back with this gorgeous little morsel. 24 years old, skinny, absolutely fucking beautiful. She's had a kid but you wouldn't be able to tell. So I'm drooling over her, then we negotiate price, she quotes me 5 k so I hit her with 2 k and we settle on 3 k before too long. I tell her that is fine but I want to fuck her bare, she puts up on a token protest before aggreeing. I tip the granny who brought me the girl 100 and we're off to the short time hotel down the street. Anyway, the girls spends a while in the bathroom, then I join her for a shower. She won't kiss, which is fine, I go down on her for a long ass time and she seemed to enjoy herself. Her pussy was mostly clean, but there was just a hint of sweat or something which was actually quite pleasing to my senses. Mostly her taste was neutral.

Anyway, eventually my neck is all cramped up because I've been going to town on her for so long, so I stop and we spoon and she is just sort of basking in the experience. Then I stick it inside her. I think the sudenafil hadn't entirely kicked in yet but I made do, giving her a pretty decent fucking. So I'm balls deep in this tiny filipino *****, and I'm about to cum, so I start edging my self just to prolong the experience. And she's obviously wise to what I'm doing so she starts telling me to cum. Then I ask if I can cum inside her, and first she instinctively says no, but then she changes her mind and says go ahead. So I do.

It really is more fun in the Philippines.

Sammon
03-15-23, 10:47
Flew non stop on Philippine airlines business class last week. Service has greatly improved. But the layout 2-3-2 is not good. I like the cubicles like Cathay Pacific and many other airlines have. My flight landed early morning and I had almost 16 hours to kill before my connecting flight to Jakarta. Took a taxi ride to city state hotel. They agreed to for me to stay whole day with breakfast for 2500 pesos. Not a very good hotel and the rooms are marginal.
They check and make sure you have e travel code. Otherwise everything is a breeze.
Texted my previous Mindanao girl and she was happy to join me. We had lots of fun and sex. Went for a two hour massage and slept to get rid of the jet lag.

On to Jakarta. In Jakarta ISG maybe banned or at least my hotel four seasons Sheraton, Tamrin did not give me access and in fact I did not have access at all. Now that I am in Philippines could post my experiences.

Indonesia part I will post in Jakarta forum.

Pickley
03-15-23, 11:20
So after a number of disappointing experiences at LA Cafe, I finally struck gold.

So I enter the bar and right away get swarmed by a bunch of uggos. I find the least uggo of them. She looked kind of cute, early 30's, maybe a bit on the tall side for a filipino woman. From what I groped her body seemed alright. So we settled on 2 k but she walked when I insisted on bareback.

Anyway, then these three grannies swarm me. And they wouldn't go away. Now I'm a super nice person, so I just sort of shut down and hoped they would get the hint to fuck off. They're running their spiel, and then they ask me what sort of girl I want. So I tell them young (not too young! Over 18 thank you very much) and skinny. So one of the grannies leaves and comes back with this gorgeous little morsel. 24 years old, skinny, absolutely fucking beautiful. She's had a kid but you wouldn't be able to tell. So I'm drooling over her, then we negotiate price, she quotes me 5 k so I hit her with 2 k and we settle on 3 k before too long. I tell her that is fine but I want to fuck her bare, she puts up on a token protest before aggreeing. I tip the granny who brought me the girl 100 and we're off to the short time hotel down the street. Anyway, the girls spends a while in the bathroom, then I join her for a shower. She won't kiss, which is fine, I go down on her for a long ass time and she seemed to enjoy herself. Her pussy was mostly clean, but there was just a hint of sweat or something which was actually quite pleasing to my senses. Mostly her taste was neutral.

Anyway, eventually my neck is all cramped up because I've been going to town on her for so long, so I stop and we spoon and she is just sort of basking in the experience. Then I stick it inside her. I think the sudenafil hadn't entirely kicked in yet but I made do, giving her a pretty decent fucking. So I'm balls deep in this tiny filipino *****, and I'm about to cum, so I start edging my self just to prolong the experience. And she's obviously wise to what I'm doing so she starts telling me to cum. Then I ask if I can cum inside her, and first she instinctively says no, but then she changes her mind and says go ahead. So I do.

It really is more fun in the Philippines.Good to know how much to tip the granny mms.

Expat American
03-15-23, 14:26
So after a number of disappointing experiences at LA Cafe, I finally struck gold.

So I enter the bar and right away get swarmed by a bunch of uggos. I find the least uggo of them. She looked kind of cute, early 30's, maybe a bit on the tall side for a filipino woman. From what I groped her body seemed alright. So we settled on 2 k but she walked when I insisted on bareback.

Anyway, then these three grannies swarm me. And they wouldn't go away. Now I'm a super nice person, so I just sort of shut down and hoped they would get the hint to fuck off. They're running their spiel, and then they ask me what sort of girl I want. So I tell them young (not too young! Over 18 thank you very much) and skinny. So one of the grannies leaves and comes back with this gorgeous little morsel. 24 years old, skinny, absolutely fucking beautiful. She's had a kid but you wouldn't be able to tell. So I'm drooling over her, then we negotiate price, she quotes me 5 k so I hit her with 2 k and we settle on 3 k before too long. I tell her that is fine but I want to fuck her bare, she puts up on a token protest before aggreeing. I tip the granny who brought me the girl 100 and we're off to the short time hotel down the street. Anyway, the girls spends a while in the bathroom, then I join her for a shower. She won't kiss, which is fine, I go down on her for a long ass time and she seemed to enjoy herself. Her pussy was mostly clean, but there was just a hint of sweat or something which was actually quite pleasing to my senses. Mostly her taste was neutral.

Anyway, eventually my neck is all cramped up because I've been going to town on her for so long, so I stop and we spoon and she is just sort of basking in the experience. Then I stick it inside her. I think the sudenafil hadn't entirely kicked in yet but I made do, giving her a pretty decent fucking. So I'm balls deep in this tiny filipino *****, and I'm about to cum, so I start edging my self just to prolong the experience. And she's obviously wise to what I'm doing so she starts telling me to cum. Then I ask if I can cum inside her, and first she instinctively says no, but then she changes her mind and says go ahead. So I do.

It really is more fun in the Philippines.Glad you enjoyed. But this sounds like a mediocre sex experience (no kissing? BBFSCIP is fairly standard in the Philippines. I never even ask for it up front. I just assume it and if she brings up the condom I say no thanks and she can leave if she wants. 99% of the time they do it BBFS. Some will ask to come outside and I do always respect that request.

Drbombay
03-16-23, 10:46
I'm flying in 12 days, so I just started searching dating apps to pre-qualify one or two dates. I plan on doing a mix of app girls, freelancers (who can also be app girls of course), and BF girls over the 16 days I will be there.

One of the profiles I spotted tonight is for sisters (sadly not twins), aged 21 and? Who clearly say "two sisters looking to share " Based on the few pics I'd say they are more cute than hot, but definitely attractive if packaged for a threesome. They live an hour east of Makati in Taytay. Is that considered part of the city, or is it a province? (Not sure if that matters, but curious.).

Now this isn't Penthouse Forum, but based on all the reports I've read here this seems at the LEAST plausible that they are legit. And since they live a fair distance away from Makati and they are not super-hot, I expect I can negotiate a favorable deal, perhaps getting both of them for the same rate as one local, attractive FL.

My question: Am I thinking too hard (pun intended) with the wrong head? Is this really one of the classic set ups for disaster? Or absent any last-minute red flags, am I likely to score another 3-way, but this time with sisters?

Thanks for any advice offered.I've done two Pinay sisters before. Not at the same time but both knew we had slept with each other. The Bottom Line: Money talks!

Dg8787
03-17-23, 00:43
I've done two Pinay sisters before. Not at the same time but both knew we had slept with each other. The Bottom Line: Money talks!Congratulations for a pair of sisters. In PH a winning hand is a full house, a pair of sisters and 3 of their cousins.

Mua Tur
03-17-23, 07:22
...................

One of the profiles I spotted tonight is for sisters (sadly not twins), aged 21 and? Who clearly say "two sisters looking to share " Based on the few pics I'd say they are more cute than hot, but definitely attractive if packaged for a threesome. They live an hour east of Makati in Taytay. Is that considered part of the city, or is it a province? (Not sure if that matters, but curious.).Taytay is a 1st class municipality of Rizal province and far enough to travel Makati very easily.


My question: Am I thinking too hard (pun intended) with the wrong head? Is this really one of the classic set ups for disaster? Or absent any last-minute red flags, am I likely to score another 3-way, but this time with sisters?

Thanks for any advice offered.Wrong head any way but never be a disaster. I have my own experience on that. First I started chat with the young one from Tagged and soon her elder cousin sister joined with us. All went with plan and nicely but in the room I had to face the whining from the younger one that I m fucking much the cousin sister (what can I do she is hot as hell). They travel all along from DasMarinas to Makati. You can do the same if you can handle unexpected jealousy. If appear you have to cool down before it goes viral.

MrHappyKat
03-19-23, 14:53
Day 0 - Travelling to Manila from California.

Won't spend much time on this section, just a brief review / highlight:

1. Uber from the SFV to the airport (LAX) at 7 am for a noon flight = $70+tip.

2. Arrived Bradley International Terminal at 8 am.

3. Check in was smooth; presented passport with eTravel QR, & Vax cards. Agent only wanted my passport.

4. Agent told me my seat's power outlet was out, I was getting 2,000 PAL loyalty points and asked if I wanted a diff seat. I did. She moved me up one row.

5. Up to the Star Alliance Lounge: Mediocre breakfast, decent coffee, 10 min walk to my gate.

6. Boarding started 15 minutes late. Departure 30 minutes late.

7. Business Class on PAL: overall grade: acceptable.

8. Landed on time.

9. Immigration was fast; show QR and passport, 2 questions, move along, Sir.

10. Bag Claim took 15 to deliver 1st bag.

11. Customs took my form and dropped it on the pile, move along, Sir.

12. Stopped at Globe Sim booth. Took 15 minutes to set me up.

13. Grab Taxi stand: PHP490 to my hotel in Ermita. 5 min wait.

14. Traffic sucked, made me think I was still on the 405 Freeway in LA. Except for potholes, poverty, and a not-so-faint aroma of shit dipped in pig sweat in the air.

15. Arrived at my hotel: Manila Lotus Hotel on Mabini St. $65 / day for a mid-tier room. The room sucks, the food sucks, the roosters outside my window that never stop cackling suck, the neighborhood sucks, the service is pretty good. Over all: Just DO NOT STAY HERE AGAIN.

16. Crashed around 10:00 pm. Woke up at 5:00 am. Jet lag sucks.

Day 1 - going to get laid today. Plus a dip into the LA Cafe.

Caught up on personal stuff: email, local phone set accounts and services like Grab. Free Breakfast at 7:30 am looked like the leftovers from a decent buffet. Food was bland, coffee was bad, only powdered creamer. Walked around the corner to the 7-11 and bought bottled water for my room, plus 2 Dove Bars. There was no soap in the room, so I had to use an old hotel soap bar I keep in my travel kit.

I was still tired, so I took a nap until 10 am. About a week earlier I had booked 3 Sugar Baby dates while still in the states, and the 1st was today at 2:00 pm. 24, slim-maybe 105, cute face. Let's call her Gia. I messaged her on WhatsApp to confirm and give her the address. She confirmed and took a grab to meet me on schedule. Had to leave her ID at the front desk. Interesting note that the entire front desk staff are pretty Pinays. They appeared to be professional when my date arrived, but I guess they've seen it all. Up to my room, chatted a bit. She's very fluent in English. Works as a freelance writer for entertainment agencies. She told me she loves DT, receiving Oral, and occasionally getting choked. Then she proved these statements to be true. Completely true.

After leaving my 1st CIP in country, she showered and asked me to message her if I want to connect again before heading home. We had negotiated from 10 k down to 8 k. I know that's overmarket for an Ermita freelancer, but I'm ok with it: Most Sugar Babies (SB's) I talked to ask for 10-15 K, they are (presumably) working day jobs and generally are hooking up infrequently, or have just ended a long term arrangement. That tracks with my sugar baby experience in the States. And I've been doing sugaring there for 10+ years.

After we finished and she left (front desk called to make sure all was good before they let her leave), I cleaned up and decided to check out LA Cafe. About a 10 minute walk from my hotel, it was about 4 pm when I arrived. The place is smaller than it looks on YouTube (not considering the upstairs area) and there were 4-5 FL's inside. All chubbers and fuglies. Just like stepping into a strip club in Vegas, 2 girls swarmed me the minute I came in. Both were, well I won't be cruel and give them scores less than 3, but they not viable selections even if I hadn't just dropped a load into a hot, skinny 8 at my hotel.

Ordered a drink, chatted for a bit before sending the chubbers away, and found a decent looking 6. 5 to talk to. She was nice, sweet, and wanted 4 k for ST. I let her negotiate against herself by not reacting to her ask. After a few minutes she dropped her rate to 3 k. I finished my drink and politely declined as I left. Walked back to my hotel, and rested a bit more in my room.

About 7 pm went for dinner at the hotel restaurant. Bad idea. Food was, well, it reminded me of the food you get at a seniors home in Fresno. Finished dinner and walked back to LA Cafe. Now, at 8:30 pm on a Saturday, the place was packed. Lot's of guys, single and small groups up to 4+, mix of western types and about 35% possibly Koreans. And plenty of Freelancers, maybe 1. 5 to every guy. There's a live band stage upstairs, the band plays for about a hour before another band rotates in. I was always approached by at least 2 girls at a time, and there was a pretty good hustle to get you to take 2 home for fun. I resisted. Most of the FL's ranged from 6 to 8, with an occasional 8-9+ in the mix. By the 3rd tag team that came on to me, I saw a gem, 22 yrs old, super petite, sweet-innocent face and very shy. I was only window shopping. I am a one-a-day shooter. But I didn't want to lose the opp for this girl. She asked for 5 k, I think that's reasonable. I suggested that we meet the next day and gave her my WhatsApp, with an ask to message me at 3:00 pm. Tipped her and her friend 500 for letting me feel them up for 30 minutes and I went back to my hotel.

Day 3 - Jet lag comes on with a vengeance:

Slept until 9 am. Went out to the Venice Grand Canal mall to get lunch and do some shopping for my #1 SB back home. Took lots of (cover) pics. Grab each way was about 480. Got back around 3 pm. No message from the FL I met last night. I felt really tired and took another nap. It's 9:45 pm as I write this. Going to get more sleep. Another SB date scheduled for tomorrow.

MrHappyKat
03-19-23, 23:33
Day 3 - Jet lag comes on with a vengeance:

This should be Day 2. Can't edit posts?

Radical Guy
03-20-23, 00:19
Day 0 - Travelling to Manila from California.

Won't spend much time on this section, just a brief review / highlight:

1. Uber from the SFV to the airport (LAX) at 7 am for a noon flight = $70+tip.

2. Arrived Bradley International Terminal at 8 am.

3. Check in was smooth; presented passport with eTravel QR, & Vax cards. Agent only wanted my passport.

4. Agent told me my seat's power outlet was out, I was getting 2,000 PAL loyalty points and asked if I wanted a diff seat. I did. She moved me up one row.

5. Up to the Star Alliance Lounge: Mediocre breakfast, decent coffee, 10 min walk to my gate.

6. Boarding started 15 minutes late. Departure 30 minutes late.

7. Business Class on PAL: overall grade: acceptable.

8. Landed on time.

9. Immigration was fast; show QR and passport, 2 questions, move along, Sir.

10. Bag Claim took 15 to deliver 1st bag.

11. Customs took my form and dropped it on the pile, move along, Sir.

12. Stopped at Globe Sim booth. Took 15 minutes to set me up.

13. Grab Taxi stand: PHP490 to my hotel in Ermita. 5 min wait.

14. Traffic sucked, made me think I was still on the 405 Freeway in LA. Except for potholes, poverty, and a not-so-faint aroma of shit dipped in pig sweat in the air.

15. Arrived at my hotel: Manila Lotus Hotel on Mabini St. $65 / day for a mid-tier room. The room sucks, the food sucks, the roosters outside my window that never stop cackling suck, the neighborhood sucks, the service is pretty good. Over all: Just DO NOT STAY HERE AGAIN.

16. Crashed around 10:00 pm. Woke up at 5:00 am. Jet lag sucks.

Day 1 - going to get laid today. Plus a dip into the LA Cafe.

Caught up on personal stuff: email, local phone set accounts and services like Grab. Free Breakfast at 7:30 am looked like the leftovers from a decent buffet. Food was bland, coffee was bad, only powdered creamer. Walked around the corner to the 7-11 and bought bottled water for my room, plus 2 Dove Bars. There was no soap in the room, so I had to use an old hotel soap bar I keep in my travel kit.

I was still tired, so I took a nap until 10 am. About a week earlier I had booked 3 Sugar Baby dates while still in the states, and the 1st was today at 2:00 pm. 24, slim-maybe 105, cute face. Let's call her Gia. I messaged her on WhatsApp to confirm and give her the address. She confirmed and took a grab to meet me on schedule. Had to leave her ID at the front desk. Interesting note that the entire front desk staff are pretty Pinays. They appeared to be professional when my date arrived, but I guess they've seen it all. Up to my room, chatted a bit. She's very fluent in English. Works as a freelance writer for entertainment agencies. She told me she loves DT, receiving Oral, and occasionally getting choked. Then she proved these statements to be true. Completely true.

After leaving my 1st CIP in country, she showered and asked me to message her if I want to connect again before heading home. We had negotiated from 10 k down to 8 k. I know that's overmarket for an Ermita freelancer, but I'm ok with it: Most Sugar Babies (SB's) I talked to ask for 10-15 K, they are (presumably) working day jobs and generally are hooking up infrequently, or have just ended a long term arrangement. That tracks with my sugar baby experience in the States. And I've been doing sugaring there for 10+ years.

After we finished and she left (front desk called to make sure all was good before they let her leave), I cleaned up and decided to check out LA Cafe. About a 10 minute walk from my hotel, it was about 4 pm when I arrived. The place is smaller than it looks on YouTube (not considering the upstairs area) and there were 4-5 FL's inside. All chubbers and fuglies. Just like stepping into a strip club in Vegas, 2 girls swarmed me the minute I came in. Both were, well I won't be cruel and give them scores less than 3, but they not viable selections even if I hadn't just dropped a load into a hot, skinny 8 at my hotel.

Ordered a drink, chatted for a bit before sending the chubbers away, and found a decent looking 6. 5 to talk to. She was nice, sweet, and wanted 4 k for ST. I let her negotiate against herself by not reacting to her ask. After a few minutes she dropped her rate to 3 k. I finished my drink and politely declined as I left. Walked back to my hotel, and rested a bit more in my room.

About 7 pm went for dinner at the hotel restaurant. Bad idea. Food was, well, it reminded me of the food you get at a seniors home in Fresno. Finished dinner and walked back to LA Cafe. Now, at 8:30 pm on a Saturday, the place was packed. Lot's of guys, single and small groups up to 4+, mix of western types and about 35% possibly Koreans. And plenty of Freelancers, maybe 1. 5 to every guy. There's a live band stage upstairs, the band plays for about a hour before another band rotates in. I was always approached by at least 2 girls at a time, and there was a pretty good hustle to get you to take 2 home for fun. I resisted. Most of the FL's ranged from 6 to 8, with an occasional 8-9+ in the mix. By the 3rd tag team that came on to me, I saw a gem, 22 yrs old, super petite, sweet-innocent face and very shy. I was only window shopping. I am a one-a-day shooter. But I didn't want to lose the opp for this girl. She asked for 5 k, I think that's reasonable. I suggested that we meet the next day and gave her my WhatsApp, with an ask to message me at 3:00 pm. Tipped her and her friend 500 for letting me feel them up for 30 minutes and I went back to my hotel.

Day 3 - Jet lag comes on with a vengeance:

Slept until 9 am. Went out to the Venice Grand Canal mall to get lunch and do some shopping for my #1 SB back home. Took lots of (cover) pics. Grab each way was about 480. Got back around 3 pm. No message from the FL I met last night. I felt really tired and took another nap. It's 9:45 pm as I write this. Going to get more sleep. Another SB date scheduled for tomorrow.You spent a lot of money on your business class ticket on PAL, and seem willing to pay premium prices for girls. Why then would you stay at a dump like the Lotus hotel, when a nicer hotel like New Coast is close by and just a little more? Plus, there are a lot of awesome freelancers nearby around Robinson's mall as an option.

RG.

WestCoast1
03-20-23, 02:45
This should be Day 2. Can't edit posts?Edits must occur within 1 hour of the original post time.

WestCoast1
03-20-23, 03:04
Good report.


15. Arrived at my hotel: Manila Lotus Hotel on Mabini St. $65 / day for a mid-tier room. The room sucks, the food sucks, the roosters outside my window that never stop cackling suck, the neighborhood sucks, the service is pretty good. Over all: Just DO NOT STAY HERE AGAIN.Most of the Ermita / Malate / LAC area has been described accurately, for many years on the board, as: GRITTY, VIBRANT, DANGEROUS (COMPLETE WITH CHILDREN PICK-POCKETS), and FUN. Lots of nawty options, food options, and live bands in the area: Cowboy Grill, Calle Cinco, Belagio Square, and Chill Bar (Bocobo St) are within a few blocks of your hotel. If you want cleaner / nicer, Makati is your call.

For $65/ night, you can do better on the condos in the area on airbnb. Nicer hotels would be the Kimberly and New Coast (both on Pedro Gil St), and the Sheraton Manila Bay (and you pay more for them).


After leaving my 1st CIP in country, she showered and asked me to message her if I want to connect again before heading home. We had negotiated from 10 k down to 8 k. I know that's overmarket for an Ermita freelancer, but I'm ok with it.Don't worry about the price of your first bang. You need to jizz once, to settle yourself down from the months (years?) of missed covid activities. Worry about money and other matters after.

Mua Tur
03-20-23, 04:07
Good report.

Most of the Ermita / Malate / LAC area has been described accurately, for many years on the board, as: GRITTY, VIBRANT, DANGEROUS (COMPLETE WITH CHILDREN PICK-POCKETS), and FUN. Lots of nawty options, food options, and live bands in the area: Cowboy Grill, Calle Cinco, Belagio Square, and Chill Bar (Bocobo St) are within a few blocks of your hotel. If you want cleaner / nicer, Makati is your call........Very well said. Times before The area in Pasay around Taft Ave MRT station was the capital of Manila for activities of criminals, drugs, non cleaned street girls. Duterte cleaned up all in his immediate presidency and now all added to Ermita / Malate. God bless beloved Philippine.

Happy Hunting.

DafukuSayToMe
03-20-23, 20:52
Curvy beauty from the big city. Great eyes. Nice girl. Gets a vaxxing, collects the prize, moves on, comes back. Lather / rinse / repeats. Enjoy.Wow Nice looks delightful.

MrHappyKat
03-21-23, 02:25
You spent a lot of money on your business class ticket on PAL, and seem willing to pay premium prices for girls. Why then would you stay at a dump like the Lotus hotel, when a nicer hotel like New Coast is close by and just a little more? Plus, there are a lot of awesome freelancers nearby around Robinson's mall as an option.

RG.Fair question. The simple answer is that I did not pick up on how shitty the Manila Lotus Hotel is until I entered the room. Fortunately, the events of Day 3 made up for it, as I was thinking nothing about the hotel as I dropped a load into more sweet Pinay pussy.

MrHappyKat
03-21-23, 02:54
Day 3: Fish & Birds, and Sushi and more Fish.

Woke up early on Day 3, finally feeling like I had shed my jetlag. Got a (better today) breakfast from the hotel and decided to check out Manila Ocean Park. Attractions include a walk-through aquarium, penguin exhibit, and two live shows: Birds and Sea Lions. Compared to similar attractions in Barcelona, Monterey, and Baltimore, I can only describe MOP as. Cute. The families and kids seemed to love it. I took pics and vids for display to family and muggle friends back home.

I had another SB date previously lined up, so after the Park, I started looking for a decent restaurant for dinner. Yelp and Open Table are your friends and I found a good Japanese place called Enbu at the Okada Casino. My girl met me there, had some tasty sushi and other Japanese dishes and took a Grab back to my shitty hotel. We had a chat about what each of us likes, limits and boundaries, and got to the action. Now I just love a girl that loves to DT, get choked, slapped, and be told she is various forms of a naughty little * So we did that for about 3 hours. Gave her her allowance plus an extra 500 for what turned out to be a 60-minute grab ride home. I'll be back in Manila (Makati on 3/27). But now.

Day 4 - Road Trip to Angeles.

I'm leaving in 80 minutes for Angeles by hired car. Staying at ABC for 6 nights. So my next posts will be in the Angeles Forum.

My new motto for PH Travel: "If I'm fucking, I'm learning. " Kind of catchy, isn't it?

Transporter
03-21-23, 03:19
Day 3: Fish & Birds, and Sushi and more Fish.

I'll be back in Manila (Makati on 3/27). But now.
Day 4 - Road Trip to Angeles.
I'm leaving in 80 minutes for Angeles by hired car. Staying at ABC for 6 nights. So my next posts will be in the Angeles Forum.
My new motto for PH Travel: "If I'm fucking, I'm learning. " Kind of catchy, isn't it?You might want to reconsider staying in AC a bit longer and less in Makati. Just a thought.

Sammon
03-21-23, 12:07
Came back from cebu well satisfied. Stayed at New Coast hotel. I always stay there. Excellent hotel and if you research good prices on Agoda and sometimes deals on their hotel website.

Mindanao girl waiting and spent the night. She is lots of fun. Do whatever and whenever you want kind of deal. Her pic I posted previously. Had another one lined up but could not say no to this girl. She does not like restaurant food. Happy with jollibee. I pick up food for her dropped it off and went to the middle eastern food place near LA cafe. Very good food.

Went to LA cafe. On the way very pretty girl possibly very young latched on to my arm asking if I want her. Could be a trannie? I told her I have GF in my room. She said it is okay to go to ST hotel. Wanted 2000ST. Did not want to take a chance catching something if she is truly a girl and passing it to my girl. Rushed off to LA cafe. For some reason although it is supposed to be smoke free full of smoke. Saturday night and it was jam packed. All sorts of girls. Some good looking girls. Ordered a beer and the waitress charged me 180 pesos. I gave her 200. She asked me if I wanted a girl. No to that. Several girls came by and wanted a drink first and chit chat. There were offers from 3000ST to all the way up to 8000 LT. If I was interested I could knock it down. I spotted one quiet next door type of girl and called her over. Spotting this waitress came over and her drink cost is I believe 320. Gave 350.

This girl lives little far outside Manila City. Wanted 3500 LT. I would have taken her if I did not have anybody. Spent roughly one and half hours there and left.

Mindanao girl made me happy again. She said she wants to go to Middle East for a job. Who knows?

Now back home and next trip already booked in October Phnom Penh, Bkk, Pattaya, Manila, Cebu.

WestCoast1
03-21-23, 21:11
Wow Nice looks delightful.#DafukIsayToYou: It was, and she was. Here's another on-again / off-again gal, for some years now.

DafukuSayToMe
03-22-23, 18:00
#DafukIsayToYou: It was, and she was. Here's another on-again / off-again gal, for some years now.Hopefully I get to be as lucky as you on my trip across the pond. I'm just now starting to make a few connections hopefully they don't all fall through.

MohdirFan82
03-24-23, 13:44
Arrived Manila after Bangkok and Pattaya. I had BYOB so did not pick anyone in Thailand.

Let me tell you Phillipines is nothing compare to Thailand in my opinion.

Anyway sent my BYOB home and solo landed in Manila.

Pre-arranged about 10+ girls, guess what all 9 were flaky but 1 office girl.

Stayed 3 nights in makati nothing special to report. 4th day moved to Malate area stayed at Palm hotel (very GFF).

LA cafe have really fugally girls but few ok looking. Most good looking glued to Koreans and Japanese.

Gotten really lucky with 22 year old Davao girl stunner who looking for job in malate (yeah right) . I found awesome trick walk few times outside of Starbucks and ask for directions and ask for number in the end.

I am gona have to pass Phillipines next times and stick with my favorite country Thailand and Indonesia.

Radical Guy
03-24-23, 17:19
Arrived Manila after Bangkok and Pattaya. I had BYOB so did not pick anyone in Thailand.

Let me tell you Phillipines is nothing compare to Thailand in my opinion.

Anyway sent my BYOB home and solo landed in Manila.

Pre-arranged about 10+ girls, guess what all 9 were flaky but 1 office girl.

Stayed 3 nights in makati nothing special to report. 4th day moved to Malate area stayed at Palm hotel (very GFF).

LA cafe have really fugally girls but few ok looking. Most good looking glued to Koreans and Japanese.

Gotten really lucky with 22 year old Davao girl stunner who looking for job in malate (yeah right) . I found awesome trick walk few times outside of Starbucks and ask for directions and ask for number in the end.

I am gona have to pass Phillipines next times and stick with my favorite country Thailand and Indonesia.I still enjoy the Philippines, but Kenya has become my favorite mongering destination. Girls there are absolutely crazy about being with a white guy. And money is not an issue. Kenya today reminds me of the Philippines in years long past.

RG.

Shikamaru1993
03-28-23, 14:31
Long time Reader. First Time Poster.

I am in Manila. And I have 7 days left to fulfill my teenage fantasy of a threesome with two wild girls.

But the issue is that I am an introvert and I have anxiety in crowded places so I cannot go to clubs. I am using dating apps which have been really successful in term of normal sex but no girl is willing for a threesome. Does anybody have a contact of girls good with threesomes or a suggestion in terms of how to approach this without going to bars and clubs?

Thank you in advance and I promise I will post my reports after my vacation which are purely based on my experience with apps.

Goferring
03-28-23, 17:44
I am in Manila. And I have 7 days left to fulfill my teenage fantasy of a threesome with two wild girls.With only seven days, you don't have time to waste with the dating sites or broken promises from freelances etc. Just go to Manila Courtesans, Smooci or similar. They all list girls who will arrive with a friend and play together. You will pay a premium but will be sure to get what you want if you are upfront with them about what exactly you call a threesome.

Note that moresomes are notorious for over promising and under delivering with bargirls, freelancers and online girls. With only seven days you don't have time for that so just go somewhere where their services are spelt out and somewhat guaranteed.

Threesomes mean different things to different people so you need to be clear with the girls what you want. Two girls fucking you? You watching two girls fuck each other? Roaming between two girls without having to stop to change rubbers etc? Pussy1 to Mouth2? A million other combinations that you may want but the girls may / maynot be happy to provide.

Enjoy. G.

Radical Guy
03-28-23, 18:47
With only seven days, you don't have time to waste with the dating sites or broken promises from freelances etc. Just go to Manila Courtesans, Smooci or similar. They all list girls who will arrive with a friend and play together. You will pay a premium but will be sure to get what you want if you are upfront with them about what exactly you call a threesome.

Note that moresomes are notorious for over promising and under delivering with bargirls, freelancers and online girls. With only seven days you don't have time for that so just go somewhere where their services are spelt out and somewhat guaranteed.

Threesomes mean different things to different people so you need to be clear with the girls what you want. Two girls fucking you? You watching two girls fuck each other? Roaming between two girls without having to stop to change rubbers etc? Pussy1 to Mouth2? A million other combinations that you may want but the girls may / maynot be happy to provide.

Enjoy. G.I wouldn't waste time with anyone expecting me to use a rubber. To me, that's the same as no sex at all.

Gaijin Gigolo
03-29-23, 00:01
You might want to reconsider staying in AC a bit longer and less in Makati. Just a thought.I would agree, unless you just enjoy getting ripped off.

Sammon
03-29-23, 11:44
Long time Reader. First Time Poster.

I am in Manila. And I have 7 days left to fulfill my teenage fantasy of a threesome with two wild girls.

But the issue is that I am an introvert and I have anxiety in crowded places so I cannot go to clubs. I am using dating apps which have been really successful in term of normal sex but no girl is willing for a threesome. Does anybody have a contact of girls good with threesomes or a suggestion in terms of how to approach this without going to bars and clubs?

Thank you in advance and I promise I will post my reports after my vacation which are purely based on my experience with apps.I have had many threesomes over the years from dating site girls. Unlike bargirls who tend to be wild dating site girls are mellow and if you insist they will bring their friend to join. They are not keen on girl on girl. Most they will do is kiss the boobs while I am fucking one. Couple of times I had one hiding in the bathroom while I fucked one. At midnight if I am fucking one other one will pretend to be fast asleep. Some bargirls will do DATY to the other girl but not dating site girls. Those can happen in Angeles with ore negotiations.

Consequently even if my dating site girl suggest threesome I tend to not go for it. I will have a better time just fucking one. If she has a friend I will try her alone next day.

Your best bet are the bars and negotiate what you are expecting.

Mua Tur
03-29-23, 14:50
I have had many threesomes over the years from dating site girls. Unlike bargirls who tend to be wild dating site girls are mellow and if you insist they will bring their friend to join. They are not keen on girl on girl. Most they will do is kiss the boobs while I am fucking one. Couple of times I had one hiding in the bathroom while I fucked one. At midnight if I am fucking one other one will pretend to be fast asleep. Some bargirls will do DATY to the other girl but not dating site girls. Those can happen in Angeles with ore negotiations.

Consequently even if my dating site girl suggest threesome I tend to not go for it. I will have a better time just fucking one. If she has a friend I will try her alone next day.

Your best bet are the bars and negotiate what you are expecting.I have two experience about 3 some in Philippine. My girl was from dating site. On our 2nd day she offer for 3 some and intended to chose the other girl by herself. So she brought a freelancer. Than it turned out my girl is a Bi and more enjoyed with the freelancer rather than me.

2nd one also from dating site and appeared in my place with her curvy niece. I would not say it was 3 some, because while I was fucking the aunt the niece was hided inside the bathroom. While I was doing the niece the aunt pretended to be in deeply asleep. After few rounds the Aunt disinterested to fuck any more and always indicated to fuck her niece. Any way I obliged.

MohdirFan82
03-30-23, 00:56
Met very nice pretty girl online that I been talking.

Booked a joyride for her from Las Pinas, we have nice dinner, drink and had amazing sex.

Now the bad part, she snores so loud that I was not able to sleep.

I just woke her up and sending her back home.

Transporter
03-30-23, 05:31
Met very nice pretty girl online that I been talking.
Booked a joyride for her from Las Pinas, we have nice dinner, drink and had amazing sex.
Now the bad part, she snores so loud that I was not able to sleep.
I just woke her up and sending her back home.How bad is the snoring? If she is hot, and the sex is amazing, how can that override snoring?

GoFourIt
03-31-23, 16:39
Long time Reader. First Time Poster.

I am in Manila. And I have 7 days left to fulfill my teenage fantasy of a threesome with two wild girls.

But the issue is that I am an introvert and I have anxiety in crowded places so I cannot go to clubs. I am using dating apps which have been really successful in term of normal sex but no girl is willing for a threesome. Does anybody have a contact of girls good with threesomes or a suggestion in terms of how to approach this without going to bars and clubs?

Thank you in advance and I promise I will post my reports after my vacation which are purely based on my experience with apps.Which dating sites are you using?

Shikamaru1993
04-02-23, 17:08
Which dating sites are you using?Date in Asia, Pinalove, Tinder, Badoo, Bumble.

Dirty Tom
04-03-23, 08:14
Hello folks,

I found this Yonaguni or Hoshiko spa, goes with two names, on MR.

I am subscribed to their telegram channel and get regular pics etc.

They have really good looking babes to send to the hotel room.

My question is, what will those gals charge for full service and everything I desire?

Any data points from those who may have tried them?

I tried asking them on telegram but they just refuse to give me any indication of what the gals will charge for sex.

Can someone give me any pointers?

It'll be my first time in the Philippines.

Thanks!

Moto1452
04-03-23, 08:43
How bad is the snoring? If she is hot, and the sex is amazing, how can that override snoring?Before and after a few rounds, a girl can be viewed very differently. Post partum nut clarity.

WestCoast1
04-03-23, 12:43
Before and after a few rounds, a girl can be viewed very differently. Post partum nut clarity.Ahhhh. The old PPNC.

DoktorEn
04-04-23, 22:24
Continuing my list of bucket list / fetish items: what are the odds that I can bring a girl shopping at one of the malls in Manila and get into the changing room with her? And here I mean whether or not it is feasible in terms of the store/staff not noticing/caring.

Radical Guy
04-04-23, 22:56
Continuing my list of bucket list / fetish items: what are the odds that I can bring a girl shopping at one of the malls in Manila and get into the changing room with her? And here I mean whether or not it is feasible in terms of the store/staff not noticing/caring.I would be worried about police being called, who would certainly look for any opportunity to extort you for a king's ransom.

D Cups
04-04-23, 23:00
Continuing my list of bucket list / fetish items: what are the odds that I can bring a girl shopping at one of the malls in Manila and get into the changing room with her? And here I mean whether or not it is feasible in terms of the store/staff not noticing/caring.I think it could be done if you are quick but then again I have always been a risk-taker. Tell the staff she is helping you.

Goferring
04-05-23, 00:47
Continuing my list of bucket list / fetish items: what are the odds that I can bring a girl shopping at one of the malls in Manila and get into the changing room with her? And here I mean whether or not it is feasible in terms of the store/staff not noticing/caring.You have it the wrong way around. She comes into the change room with you (to check for fit etc obviously 😉 You don't go into the ladies change room and start banging away.

Men's rooms are much less busy than ladies.

Not that I would know. 😱

Enjoy. G.

Transporter
04-05-23, 02:00
Continuing my list of bucket list / fetish items: what are the odds that I can bring a girl shopping at one of the malls in Manila and get into the changing room with her? And here I mean whether or not it is feasible in terms of the store/staff not noticing/caring.Too easy, a bit of cash and a box of candy. The cash is for the girl attendant there (just tell her you going to use the room for a few minutes) and the box of candy is for her to share with anyone else that might notice. Good luck trying to actually finish tho.

AussieGaigin
04-05-23, 06:38
Continuing my list of bucket list / fetish items: what are the odds that I can bring a girl shopping at one of the malls in Manila and get into the changing room with her? And here I mean whether or not it is feasible in terms of the store/staff not noticing/caring.Take her back to your hotel and try it in the wardrobe / closet LOL.

Phil65
04-05-23, 15:11
I used one of the spas for a nuru massage in my hotel. The nuru was decent and the girl was ok. After he massage was done I asked about full service and she quoted me 8000 p.

I declined and got the HJ instead for 2000 p. It was a bit high but I would have tipped her anyway.

I think I used hoshiko.


Hello folks,

I found this Yonaguni or Hoshiko spa, goes with two names, on MR.

I am subscribed to their telegram channel and get regular pics etc.

They have really good looking babes to send to the hotel room.

My question is, what will those gals charge for full service and everything I desire?

Any data points from those who may have tried them?

I tried asking them on telegram but they just refuse to give me any indication of what the gals will charge for sex.

Can someone give me any pointers?

It'll be my first time in the Philippines.

Thanks!

WarmBlankets
04-05-23, 15:41
US military to stand up 4 new military bases in the Philippines in act to counter China. No idea how this will affect our favorite hobby, but I figured some of you guys may be interested. Hope the link works, but if not you can just Google it.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3931076-heres-where-us-military-will-open-bases-in-the-philippines-in-move-to-counter-china/amp/

Locamotive
04-05-23, 17:51
US military to stand up 4 new military bases in the Philippines in act to counter China. No idea how this will affect our favorite hobby, but I figured some of you guys may be interested. Hope the link works, but if not you can just Google it.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3931076-heres-where-us-military-will-open-bases-in-the-philippines-in-move-to-counter-china/amp/Oh I can tell you how. Four bases are going to dump a bunch of young military guys in good shape with money in their pockets. They will be from pussy prison US so the Philippine's will blow their minds and they will be kids in a candy store. Angeles and Subic I'm sure will be most affected as word will spread and more girls will pour in. Now Manila and Makati probably not be affected as much but these boys will get longer leaves which will allow them to try that as well. My last week in Makati I ask a mamasun do you know why so many new bars now. Didn't you hear, US military is coming back. Older guys and allot of us are out of shape or young military bucks, that is a no brainer. Only positive I see is more girls will arrive especially in Subic and Angeles.

DoktorEn
04-05-23, 22:51
US military to stand up 4 new military bases in the Philippines in act to counter China. No idea how this will affect our favorite hobby, but I figured some of you guys may be interested. Hope the link works, but if not you can just Google it.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3931076-heres-where-us-military-will-open-bases-in-the-philippines-in-move-to-counter-china/amp/Maybe I have things wrong, but I thought the US no longer formally has military bases in the Phils. Instead, it's branded as a cooperation / leasing agreement because there was some kind of blowback during the Duterte era. In either case, I'm guessing it will mean the possibility of a new Angeles City in Cagayan and / or Palawan, if history is any guide. AC started as a US "are&are" place after all.

WestCoast1
04-06-23, 07:47
Continuing my list of bucket list / fetish items: what are the odds that I can bring a girl shopping at one of the malls in Manila and get into the changing room with her? And here I mean whether or not it is feasible in terms of the store/staff not noticing/caring.


US military to stand up 4 new military bases in the Philippines in act to counter China. No idea how this will affect our favorite hobby, but I figured some of you guys may be interested. Too much talk of malls and guns. Its Semana Santa. Time for something more uplifting, like a picture.

Transporter
04-06-23, 08:03
Too much talk of malls and guns. Its Semana Santa. Time for something more uplifting, like a picture.Ok can do.

Shikamaru1993
04-06-23, 10:53
So this is a review and report for introverts specifically about how to get laid without going to clubs using specifically dating Apps.

About Me: I am a 29 years old Indian. I lived in Philippines permanently back in 2017-18 but then moved out. And this year I went again for 20 days. I stayed in Pasig for the first few days and then in BGC.

My Preferences: I am an introvert and I don't like going to clubs or bars or crowded places etc. Which is why I use dating apps. Also, in dating apps I prefer city professional women around 30 years old instead of young 20 year old virgins.

Tinder.

Most number of girls. Easiest to use. A good combination of different types of girls. Has both young school girls and older professional women. I did not run into any women asking for money on this. A lot of ladyboys. Bought Tinder platinum. Is useful to some extent.

Bumble.

Best app for my taste. Less number of women but most of them are professionals and working good jobs. Like doctors and executives in multinationals. Paid version is okay. Their Spotlight feature showed good results.

Badoo.

Difficult to use. Most women are un-educated province girls. Average English. But of course, simple province girls also come with their advantages. Also open to money. Willing to spend a whole day with you for food and 1 k extra. Paid version of the app not really worth it.

OkCupid.

Worst app. Difficult to use. Average quality of girls. Bought paid version. Would not recommend it.

PinaLove.

Did not buy the paid version. And pretty useless without premium features.

DateinAsia.

Pretty meh. Very low quality girls. Both ugly and uneducated.

To summarize, I am not saying dating apps are better than mongering in clubs. For both hookers or normal girls. I do think talking to women in person is a lot better. But there might be people like me who are not comfortable with that. So, in that case dating apps provide a nice alternative.

Usually, I would take the girls out for a coffee date. If the vibe matched, I would ask them to come back to my apartment. Some women might not go with you the on the first date. Especially professional women but on the 2nd date sex is usually guaranteed. But you need to have a nice personality for a 2nd date to happen.

Goferring
04-07-23, 00:57
To summarize, I am not saying dating apps are better than mongering in clubs. For both hookers or normal girls. I do think talking to women in person is a lot better. But there might be people like me who are not comfortable with that. So, in that case dating apps provide a nice alternative.Thanks for the report. A good summary of the options. I'd add Filipino Cupid to the list as well. At any point in time, it probably has the most girls actually online. Typically there is a range from those that will see anyone who will pay the price of admission thru to those seeking true dates.

Online is a viable or preferred option for many guys, not just the socially anxious:

Those seeking better quality girls than found in most bars: educated, employed, able to hold a conversation etc.

Those that like some element of 'the thrill of the chase'.

Old-timers who have been to so many bars over the decades that the thought of watching yet another bored girl aimlessly shuffle around a pole induces nausea.

Non drinkers.

Too old to tolerate doof-doof music all night.

As usual, each to their own.

Enjoy. G.

ElBurroEsta
04-07-23, 15:39
Hi guys!

I am a world traveler that is soon to be in the PI. First time there. I have read WestCoasts reports for a decade. Will be in Manilla for one day, and north of Angeles for 2 weeks. Looking for advice to have the best possible experience. I am new to Asia, so any advice is greatly appreciated.

WestCoast1
04-08-23, 07:54
Province girl comes to the big smoke and gives Westy a heapin' helpin' of small-town hospitality. Poor Westy.

Reach out. Grab ahold of something you believe in. Don't let go.

Transporter
04-08-23, 08:54
Hi guys!

I am a world traveler that is soon to be in the PI. First time there. I have read WestCoasts reports for a decade. Will be in Manilla for one day, and north of Angeles for 2 weeks. Looking for advice to have the best possible experience. I am new to Asia, so any advice is greatly appreciated.If you want to play in manila, how much time and where? And how north of AC? Tarlac? Baguio? Norte?

Mua Tur
04-10-23, 04:46
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Online is a viable or preferred option for many guys, not just the socially anxious:
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Those that like some element of 'the thrill of the chase'.
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Enjoy. G.Dating site stands with 'the thrill of the chase'.


So this is a review and report for introverts specifically about how to get laid without going to clubs using specifically dating Apps.

About Me: I am a 29 years old Indian. I lived in Philippines permanently back in 2017-18 but then moved out. And this year I went again for 20 days. I stayed in Pasig for the first few days and then in BGC.
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To summarize, I am not saying dating apps are better than mongering in clubs. For both hookers or normal girls. I do think talking to women in person is a lot better. But there might be people like me who are not comfortable with that. So, in that case dating apps provide a nice alternative.

Usually, I would take the girls out for a coffee date. If the vibe matched, I would ask them to come back to my apartment. Some women might not go with you the on the first date. Especially professional women but on the 2nd date sex is usually guaranteed. But you need to have a nice personality for a 2nd date to happen.Multiple times you mentioned professional, uneducated, ugly etc elements for the dating site girls. The real fact is professional, good looking, educated girls don't need any dating app. There are plenty boys around them chasing after. Mostly already taken or to be taken. There are two types of girls are available in dating apps, 1. The girls are in need of money and ready to jump in bed immediately. 2. The girls not good looking enough or lost their prime time. Might be uneducated too. The boys around them ignoring or considering them granted.

It's true Some are holding their pride and ready to go in next date.

Happy Hunting.

Shikamaru1993
04-10-23, 13:49
The real fact is professional, good looking, educated girls don't need any dating app. There are plenty boys around them chasing after. Mostly already taken or to be taken. Umm I disagree. Like I said on Bumble, and sometimes on Tinder there were really pretty and professional women. Example would be one girl who's a lawyer and works for ING bank. One girl worked for PnG. Another one was a CFA and worked as a financial advisor. All of them attractive and under 30.

Of course they are a minority but still they exist. And I am an average looking Indian guy. A white guy will have even more success than me.

Mua Tur
04-11-23, 04:13
Umm I disagree. Like I said on Bumble, and sometimes on Tinder there were really pretty and professional women. Example would be one girl who's a lawyer and works for ING bank. One girl worked for PnG. Another one was a CFA and worked as a financial advisor. All of them attractive and under 30.

Of course they are a minority but still they exist. And I am an average looking Indian guy. A white guy will have even more success than me.How you got to sure they are telling true. Generally pros telling lie to raise their price.

Shikamaru1993
04-11-23, 22:20
How you got to sure they are telling true. Generally pros telling lie to raise their price.It's pretty difficult to fake it since I actually talk about work with them. Talking about work and career aspirations is a nice conversation starter for a date generally. And I doubt a hooker from a bar can talk about corporate compliance tasks she's currently working on in the Netherlands HQ of ING bank.

Shikamaru1993
04-11-23, 23:05
How you got to sure they are telling true. Generally pros telling lie to raise their price.And also one thing I forgot to mention is that I did not pay them for sex. The only thing I pay for is their Starbucks coffee.

Mua Tur
04-12-23, 06:09
It's pretty difficult to fake it since I actually talk about work with them. Talking about work and career aspirations is a nice conversation starter for a date generally. And I doubt a hooker from a bar can talk about corporate compliance tasks she's currently working on in the Netherlands HQ of ING bank.Still I am doubt on it. Smart girls aware about what they talking.

When a girl became 18, a very popular Debut party arranged in Philippines, . Boys above 18 are invited and they make lap dance with the girl one by one with music. It's an open invitation for the boys, declaring became she is an adult and to be chased. So every lookers are eyed by the boys and real professionals are not out of that.

Mua Tur
04-12-23, 06:26
And also one thing I forgot to mention is that I did not pay them for sex. The only thing I pay for is their Starbucks coffee.The girls jumping on bed with a person met from dating site, knowing well after that they would be ignored or forgotten. They doing that just for money, it's that simple. A girl doing pretty good job never been starving for money nor for sex. Money they earn and Philippine is a free country to have sex by their choice. Real good looking professionals don't need dating site.

Transporter
04-12-23, 17:49
On another note, if you have enough company, this is a good place to go and enjoy.

Transporter
04-12-23, 17:56
The food is pretty good.

Shikamaru1993
04-12-23, 19:27
The girls jumping on bed with a person met from dating site, knowing well after that they would be ignored or forgotten. They doing that just for money, it's that simple. A girl doing pretty good job never been starving for money nor for sex. Money they earn and Philippine is a free country to have sex by their choice. Real good looking professionals don't need dating site.Ok. But then why are they jumping in bed with me multiple times without any money? They pay for their own grab to come to my apartment. Offer to split the bill. And I met them on a dating app. I understand what you are saying but my experience is different from what you are saying.

Mua Tur
04-13-23, 04:59
Ok. But then why are they jumping in bed with me multiple times without any money? They pay for their own grab to come to my apartment. Offer to split the bill. And I met them on a dating app. I understand what you are saying but my experience is different from what you are saying.You know better what you doing. But I never met a single lady who didn't wanted money. None asked money upfront but gladly accepted and grateful once I give them money covering any excuses.

Drbombay
04-13-23, 07:16
All,

I have a PA flight connecting me in Manila to Singapore. Thing is I get there around 0530, and the flight for Singapore leaves at 0945. Arriving at Terminal 2 and departing from Terminal 1. My question are; am I allowed to go to a short stay outside the airport to "take the edge off?" And with only about a 3 hour delay (removing gate entry times) is it really worth it? Should I just hold my horses and money and pay for an upgrade seat on Phil Air and blow my cash in Ipanema in Singapore? Looking for any advice!

Transporter
04-13-23, 10:38
All,

I have a PA flight connecting me in Manila to Singapore. Thing is I get there around 0530, and the flight for Singapore leaves at 0945. Arriving at Terminal 2 and departing from Terminal 1. My question are; am I allowed to go to a short stay outside the airport to "take the edge off?" And with only about a 3 hour delay (removing gate entry times) is it really worth it? Should I just hold my horses and money and pay for an upgrade seat on Phil Air and blow my cash in Ipanema in Singapore? Looking for any advice!Nope, you won't have the time. But it would be worth it. Ochid Tower you are looking at about 3 bills min, and in PI 1 would be plenty. Happy Hunting.

Muttley81
04-13-23, 11:18
All,

I have a PA flight connecting me in Manila to Singapore. Thing is I get there around 0530, and the flight for Singapore leaves at 0945. Arriving at Terminal 2 and departing from Terminal 1. My question are; am I allowed to go to a short stay outside the airport to "take the edge off?" And with only about a 3 hour delay (removing gate entry times) is it really worth it? Should I just hold my horses and money and pay for an upgrade seat on Phil Air and blow my cash in Ipanema in Singapore? Looking for any advice!I think you're aware, as you mentioned gate entry times, but Terminal 1 and 2 are not connected.

On arrival you have to go through e-travel gate, immigration gate, pick up baggage, get bus to next terminal, checkin for flight and go through immigration again between the flights.

Giving allocated time for all that of 1 HR 15 minutes is somewhat a dream. You'll be lucky to get out of Terminal 2 in that amount of time if baggage handlers have a bad day.

Also at that time of night pickings would be slim. Wait for Singapore.

ElBurroEsta
04-15-23, 19:52
If you want to play in manila, how much time and where? And how north of AC? Tarlac? Baguio? Norte?I will be in Manila for a few days, but only over a couple weeks. I will be near Cabanatuan for a while as well. I literally have read this forum for years, but have never been, so I am not expecting to be as successful as WestCoast. But any advice is greatly appreciated.

Mlang
04-16-23, 00:21
I'll be travelling to Manila and then to Angeles City for the first time. I've been going to Thailand every year for over 7 years now and I know the drill there, but I've heard it's not that easy to get action in Philippines. I'm pretty much looking for ST. What are the different ways to get action there? Which of these would you recommend for ST?

- Freelancers: can pick them up in streets like P Burgos (Manila) or Fields Avenue (Angeles), or picking them up at bars las La Cafe (Manila) or at nightclubs, etc. I'm not a big fun of clubbing, so do you know any other streets where they can be picked up? Either in Manila or Angeles? Also, what's a reasonable ST pricing range in 2023?

- Massage parlors: I'm very interested in knowing more about this option. Massage shops are one of the easiest ways to get full service in Thailand, do they also offer full service at massage shops in Manila and Angeles City? Any recommendations?

- Online apps: Tinder, Bumble, Badoo, Pinalove and so on. I've signed up for Pinalove and I see it's the equivalent as ThaiFriendly in Thailand, but in Pinalove most decent girls are "premium" and I can't message them. Is there any way to get around this without subscribing? Also, which one is the best app / website to find freelancers? I only come across non-working girls, whereas in Pattaya 50% of the girls in the apps are freelancers.

- KTV karaokes: I've never experienced this in Thailand or anywhere else, so not sure how it works. Also I'm not so much into singing with the girls, I just want to bring them back to my room or bang them on-site.

- Girly bars.

- Escort agencies.

- Sideline, or Telegram groups, this worked great for me in Bangkok. In Thailand they have these chat groups where freelancers (or their agents) post some sort of ads with their services and photos. I had some of my best experiences in Thailand using these Telegram groups, is there anything similar in Philippines?

Transporter
04-16-23, 11:31
I will be in Manila for a few days, but only over a couple weeks. I will be near Cabanatuan for a while as well. I literally have read this forum for years, but have never been, so I am not expecting to be as successful as WestCoast. But any advice is greatly appreciated.When. And where in manila?

I have never played in cabanatuan so can't be of any help there. Have some experience in Baler, some small bars there, but nothing really to recommend. You can try the dating apps as tarlac and AC is reasonably close by so there is plenty game in your area. Just be aware that they work on filipino time. A girl from AC that will travel to you will only be 1-2 hours late, but a girl from tarlac that will travel to you will be more like 2-4 hours late.

PM me if you need more info.

WestCoast1
04-16-23, 15:54
I'll be travelling to Manila and then to Angeles City for the first time. I've been going to Thailand every year for over 7 years now and I know the drill there, but I've heard it's not that easy to get action in Philippines. I'm pretty much looking for ST. What are the different ways to get action there? Which of these would you recommend for ST?10 posts total over 18 months, and no solid Field Reports. Besides asking questions, do you have anything to offer? We call this taking, without giving. Send me a PM, I have some thoughts for you.

Dg8787
04-16-23, 16:35
10 posts total over 18 months, and no solid Field Reports. Besides asking questions, do you have anything to offer? We call this taking, without giving. Send me a PM, I have some thoughts for you.He should also pm NS for details. Or read his reports.

Mlang
04-16-23, 20:30
10 posts total over 18 months, and no solid Field Reports. Besides asking questions, do you have anything to offer? We call this taking, without giving. Send me a PM, I have some thoughts for you.Looking at it that way, I'd say you're right. I've never written a field report, not out of laziness but rather because I'm not really into sharing my experiences. But I promise that when I land in Manila on May 17th I'll share a field report. Didn't mean to take too much without giving back. I've tried to send you a PM but it seems only paying members can do that. Feel free to share here whatever you want. Or don't.

Chevy68
04-17-23, 07:18
Are there any small bars in Manila area where you see girls dance, pay barfine, then leave? I hate karaoke places, waste of time.

Wicked Roger
04-17-23, 22:13
Are there any small bars in Manila area where you see girls dance, pay barfine, then leave? I hate karaoke places, waste of time.Plenty but too long to list here.

So PM me for the list and some contacts in them.

Look forward to the PM.

Goferring
04-17-23, 23:25
I'll be travelling to Manila and then to Angeles City for the first time..What are the different ways to get action there?

- Freelancers

- Massage parlors:

- Online apps:

- KTV karaokes:

- Girly bars.

- Escort agencies.

- Sideline, or Telegram groups?1/. Bars, freelancers and online. I'm a big online fan but that's me. YMMV.

2/. Freelancers are everywhere at night and in AC 24/7. Need to seek out diamonds in the rough and avoid baklas. Get laid in 5 minutes in AC if your not too fussy. By far the cheapest option.

3/. Massage is much less X-rated than LOS. MNL will typically be nothing or Handjob at best. AC may include FS but you will need to search it out. It's not everywhere like Pattaya. Online offerings will likely include extras but scams abound (bait and switch, 20 yo photos etc).

4/. Online. Quality lo to Hi: Pinalove, DIA, FipCupid, Tinder, Seeking. Filter out requests for $$. IG and Twitter also deserve a mention but require a lot of work. A general rule is pick your favourite, don't be such a Cheap Charlie, pay the $20 and reep the benefits.

5/. KTV are very Pinoy or East Asia focussed. It's a night out not point and shoot. Expect super hot girls and eye watering prices. Mostly dine in but take out is often available at very high prices. Did I say it's expensive??

6/. Girlie bars. Available everywhere. See what your getting before you pay but false promises and poor attitudes are much more common now. At least double the price of freelancers. Drinks only girls abound. Again it's more a night out. Stick to the foreigner hangouts: it can be risky walking into a Pinoy bar alone with a fist full of cash.

7/. Agencies are online. Basically just bargirls at double the cost. Ideal as point and shoot as they will be in your room in 30 minutes.

8/. Groups are on Facebook, IG and Twitter. A lot of work though and definitely not the best quality (except IG). Better to just search your preferred hashtag on IG and DM her.

You left out nightclubs

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
04-17-23, 23:53
Looking at it that way, I'd say you're right. I've never written a field report, not out of laziness but rather because I'm not really into sharing my experiences. But I promise that when I land in Manila on May 17th I'll share a field report. Didn't mean to take too much without giving back. I've tried to send you a PM but it seems only paying members can do that. Feel free to share here whatever you want. Or don't.Not a personal attack on you but the impressions that your post gave so that others / newbies can get the most benefit from questions to the board.

1/ very broad questions without indicating what your preferences are so that specific replies can be written.

2/ questions that have extensive answers already on the board. Really invites a generic "ReadTheFuckingForum" reply.

3/. Little evidence of contributing to the forum during past trips, yet still expecting others to provide information.

4/. Not willing to pay for online membership for hook up sites or here hints at asking with no return. Membership to this forum also opens up PM options to ask specific questions from members who have been to where you want to go or have done what you want to.

Examples of bad FAQs that we receive:

Where can I get the hottest girls, money no object? (Way too vague, no idea of preferences).

How much are Burgos barfines? (Covered extensively already. RTFF!!)

I don't have time to RTFF but where is.... (But we are expected to take the time to reply?)

Good questions:

I want to stay within walking distance of Walking Street for $60/ night. Which has better rooms Hotel X or Hotel why?

I'm 6'3", 300#. Can I fit in a trike?

Apologies if I sound like a nazi or the net police. Just trying to help newbies ask questions that will get a valuable reply.

Enjoy. G.

MohdirFan82
04-18-23, 19:56
Everytime I return from Phills I contract Gonorrhea.

All my intercourses were with condom but not blow jobs.

Never happen to me before in Thailand after multiple trips, only happens in Phillipines.

What you guys do, thinking of keeping 1 MG of azthro antibiotic always handy I guess.

Gen X Baer
04-19-23, 03:36
Not a personal attack on you but the impressions that your post gave so that others / newbies can get the most benefit from questions to the board.

1/ very broad questions without indicating what your preferences are so that specific replies can be written.

2/ questions that have extensive answers already on the board. Really invites a generic "ReadTheFuckingForum" reply.

3/. Little evidence of contributing to the forum during past trips, yet still expecting others to provide information.

4/. Not willing to pay for online membership for hook up sites or here hints at asking with no return. Membership to this forum also opens up PM options to ask specific questions from members who have been to where you want to go or have done what you want to.

Examples of bad FAQs that we receive:

Where can I get the hottest girls, money no object? (Way too vague, no idea of preferences).

How much are Burgos barfines? (Covered extensively already. RTFF!!)

I don't have time to RTFF but where is.... (But we are expected to take the time to reply?)

Good questions:

I want to stay within walking distance of Walking Street for $60/ night. Which has better rooms Hotel X or Hotel why?

I'm 6'3", 300#. Can I fit in a trike?

Apologies if I sound like a nazi or the net police. Just trying to help newbies ask questions that will get a valuable reply.

Enjoy. G.Not an attack just calling it as seen. The guy has less than 20 posts and majority is just asking for info where he can RTFF. Probably never lifted a finger in group projects kind of guy LOL.

Houston Player
04-19-23, 05:20
Everytime I return from Phills I contract Gonorrhea.

All my intercourses were with condom but not blow jobs.

Never happen to me before in Thailand after multiple trips, only happens in Phillipines.

What you guys do, thinking of keeping 1 MG of azthro antibiotic always handy I guess.You must be very unlucky if you catch Gonorrhea from blow jobs, especially if you catch it every trip. The Azithromycin is a bad idea. It's best to visit a clinic so they can test and give you the right antibiotics. They'll know which combination is working best for the local strain of Gonorrhea or other STD that you have.

Parasitius
04-19-23, 05:37
What you guys do, thinking of keeping 1 MG of azthro antibiotic always handy I guess.Since Azithromycin doesn't work anymore, it was a great way for me to put a tough case of gonorrhea into hiding for three months so I could spread it to several wore girls before it resumed giving me horrible symptoms and I finally had to get real treatment.

This is what everyone is doing now. You might think you caught it multiple times but actually you've just been carrying the same case and spreading it I dunno (if you were doing BBFS I'd be sure that's the case, with oral? Who knows).

Goferring
04-19-23, 06:04
You must be very unlucky if you catch Gonorrhea from blow jobs, especially if you catch it every trip...Lots of guys here report doing 100 trips bareback consequence free. 🤔 I honestly thought no one would reply for fear of tempting fate. 😁.

I actually had two encounters in one trip.

A few weeks after leaving Cebu, a girl contacted me, trying to shake me down saying that I dosed her up, she had '000's in doctors bills and what was I going to do about it? I was symptom free but got tested anyway (all negative), told her so, then blocked her.

Then I got a call from another girl apologising profusely that she had tested positive and thought that she may have passed it on to me. Given that we had hooked up between girl 1 and me getting tested, I had to calm her down and let her know my results and that she didn't pass anything on to me. Turned out her doc hadn't done any real tests or examinations to confirm anything, only verbal questions followed immediately by a diagnosis.

A crazy couple of weeks but luckily it turned out fine.

I'd certainly be asking more questions about getting clapped up every trip. There is more to that story.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
04-19-23, 06:16
I should have added that my run rate in PI isn't zero but it's pretty good. However, elsewhere it's about 999.

Crazy thing is that in PI I only date hookers, yet in my other country I only dated good girls.

Go figure. G.

DafukuSayToMe
04-19-23, 08:17
Ok so I'm new as most of you can tell. While in Manila last week. I decided to try out Smooci and picked a girl named Yuri from there.

So here are my mistakes as I see them.

1. I let her charge me extra for transportation to my hotel. I was out by the airport (3 K peso down the drain) I know I wasn't thinking.

2. she got dinner out of me. Said she was hungry and had not eaten all day (extra pesos down the drain).

3. spent most of our time (my fault) talking about day to day stuff and didn't get down to business.

4 paid for 2 shots only got 1 because time ran out.

She felt really nice and had some skills but I think I could have negotiated alot better or could have done better with doing more research and talkiing with you guys on here.

Lessons learned and will do better next time in manila. On to Okinawa and see what's happening out there.

FuriousGeorge
04-19-23, 09:02
Bruh if this is true you are either really unlucky or not getting correct results. I have been with well over 100 girls in PH all bareback in the mouth and vag and never caught anything. I do take a doxycycline every morning during my trips there. Yes I understand there are strains that are hard to defeat. But if you take doxy every day and catch it before the bacterial load is high it will handle it. My ex girlfriend used to get UTIs every time we had sex so the doc prescribed Bactrim to be taken after every sex session. That's another option. But yes, as, always, life is risk / reward.


Everytime I return from Phills I contract Gonorrhea.

All my intercourses were with condom but not blow jobs.

Never happen to me before in Thailand after multiple trips, only happens in Phillipines.

What you guys do, thinking of keeping 1 MG of azthro antibiotic always handy I guess.

WestCoast1
04-19-23, 11:17
Gents. There is plenty of fun in the city. Make someone happy today. Someone small, twiggy, cute, and sub-5'.

Locamotive
04-19-23, 17:45
Everytime I return from Phills I contract Gonorrhea.

All my intercourses were with condom but not blow jobs.

Never happen to me before in Thailand after multiple trips, only happens in Phillipines.

What you guys do, thinking of keeping 1 MG of azthro antibiotic always handy I guess.Oh course I'm just guessing but you need to stop picking up street / mall or wherever girls and dating apps. I have been coming there over 10 years and never so much caught caught a cold. That being said I only do bar girls. Is that completely safe, no but at least they are required to do medical checks. You are taking a huge risk with all others. Maybe I've just been lucky but it seems the bar girls are safer.

Mlang
04-19-23, 17:59
1/. Bars, freelancers and online. I'm a big online fan but that's me. YMMV.

2/. Freelancers are everywhere at night and in AC 24/7. Need to seek out diamonds in the rough and avoid baklas. Get laid in 5 minutes in AC if your not too fussy. By far the cheapest option.

3/. Massage is much less X-rated than LOS. MNL will typically be nothing or Handjob at best. AC may include FS but you will need to search it out. It's not everywhere like Pattaya. Online offerings will likely include extras but scams abound (bait and switch, 20 yo photos etc).

4/. Online. Quality lo to Hi: Pinalove, DIA, FipCupid, Tinder, Seeking. Filter out requests for $$. IG and Twitter also deserve a mention but require a lot of work. A general rule is pick your favourite, don't be such a Cheap Charlie, pay the $20 and reep the benefits.

5/. KTV are very Pinoy or East Asia focussed. It's a night out not point and shoot. Expect super hot girls and eye watering prices. Mostly dine in but take out is often available at very high prices. Did I say it's expensive??.Goferring this is pure gold, thank you buddy.

As for your other message, I don't take it as an attack and I do see your point. Maybe some of my questions sounded vague but I did actually "ReadTheFuckingForum" as far as the last 15 pages back to 2022 to see the current state of affairs. Personally I don't think my questions were so vague as I was asking for more precise details about certain things that were commented on the forum but not specified. Either way I get it, and I will also do a field report once I land in Manila. I do pay for online membership on dating apps like Tinder or Bumble, ThaiFriendly etc, but I haven't done so here yet just because I was not very active around here yet, just a post every now and then, and no need up until now to PM anybody. Anyway thanks for the info and for the nice tone, cheers.

Goferring
04-19-23, 21:43
Ok so I'm new as most of you can tell. While in Manila last week. I decided to try out Smooci and picked a girl named Yuri from there.

So here are my mistakes as I see them.

1. I let her charge me extra for transportation to my hotel. I was out by the airport (3 K peso down the drain) I know I wasn't thinking.

2. she got dinner out of me. Said she was hungry and had not eaten all day (extra pesos down the drain).

3. spent most of our time (my fault) talking about day to day stuff and didn't get down to business.

4 paid for 2 shots only got 1 because time ran out.

She felt really nice and had some skills but I think I could have negotiated alot better or could have done better with doing more research and talkiing with you guys on here.

Lessons learned and will do better next time in manila. On to Okinawa and see what's happening out there.Good to read that you can still laugh about it. It's a real skill to be able to smile while being ripped off. 😜.

Unfortunately it happens to everyone so just move on and remember it for next time.

Enjoy. G.

Transporter
04-19-23, 22:16
Its just the downside of the hobby. My old cocktail was azithro + doxy + metronidazole. Too bad all those don't work anymore (metro still does work). Its pretty much 100% certainty that I will catch something when in PI. Azithro stopped working around 2015, and doxy stopped somewhere around 2018. And yes I have been disease free in all other countries except PI. I always bring in a doc, get IV and shots towards the end of my trip now. SOP.

Goferring
04-19-23, 22:50
Its just the downside of the hobby. My old cocktail was azithro + doxy + metronidazole. Too bad all those don't work anymore (metro still does work). Its pretty much 100% certainty that I will catch something when in PI. Azithro stopped working around 2015, and doxy stopped somewhere around 2018. And yes I have been disease free in all other countries except PI. I always bring in a doc, get IV and shots towards the end of my trip now. SOP.I'll expose my ignorance here:

Wouldn't routine jabs just promote resistance to antibiotics? I know rampant use of general antibiotics for decades in Asia has lead to numerous resistant strains of once easy to cure diseases. Where I live, you nearly need to be in a full coma before a doc will prescribe. They are definitely not given out "just in case".

Also, given incubation periods, wouldn't a test before returning home for the average two week warrior mean that he hadn't contacted anything on his first day in town. Any subsequent infection would still be testing negative??

Cheers. G.

Geneva Guy
04-19-23, 23:54
I'll expose my ignorance here:

Wouldn't routine jabs just promote resistance to antibiotics? I know rampant use of general antibiotics for decades in Asia has lead to numerous resistant strains of once easy to cure diseases. Where I live, you nearly need to be in a full coma before a doc will prescribe. They are definitely not given out "just in case".

Also, given incubation periods, wouldn't a test before returning home for the average two week warrior mean that he hadn't contacted anything on his first day in town. Any subsequent infection would still be testing negative??

Cheers. G.Let me jump in here:

-For chlaymdia doxycycline 100 MG twice a day for '10 days is the standard. Azithromycin alone doesn't cut it. Sometimes we use Doxy + azithro.

-For Gonorrhea, 250 MG of ceftriaxone in the butt x 1 or cefixime 400 MG by mouth x1 (a bit less effective than the shot).

-For bacterial vaginosis (fish smell); Metronidazole 2 gm x 1 (don't drink alcohol you will get sick).

-Syphillis: Pen G in the butt x 1 (2. 4 million units).

-Herpes on cock: no cure, drugs like acyclovir etc can reduce symptoms and are used as prevention in someone that already has herpes (to prevent recurrence), take that daily.

And yep, overuse of antibiotics does promote resistance, that is why the treatments for gonorrhea are so limited.

GG.

Goferring
04-20-23, 00:16
Let me jump in here:

-For chlaymdia doxycycline 100 MG twice a day for '10 days is the standard. Azithromycin alone doesn't cut it. Sometimes we use Doxy + azithro.

-For Gonorrhea, 250 MG of ceftriaxone in the butt x 1 or cefixime 400 MG by mouth x1 (a bit less effective than the shot).

-For bacterial vaginosis (fish smell); Metronidazole 2 gm x 1 (don't drink alcohol you will get sick).

-Syphillis: Pen G in the butt x 1 (2. 4 million units).

-Herpes on cock: no cure, drugs like acyclovir etc can reduce symptoms and are used as prevention in someone that already has herpes (to prevent recurrence), take that daily.

And yep, overuse of antibiotics does promote resistance, that is why the treatments for gonorrhea are so limited.

GG.Thanks.

These for a cure rather than prevention, yes? If so, was I correct that the infected person would only find out 2 weeks after contact, having only gotten false negative results any earlier?

Besides tarping up, are there any broad acting precautionary measures for those that simply must go bare? 😁.

Cheers. G.

FuriousGeorge
04-20-23, 01:30
You can 'prevent' by taking a lower dose each day. I do 100 MG doxy each morning while I'm in country. Doxycycline is commonly prescribed for dermatological issues for a month or more at a time. As I said earlier my (ex) girlfriend was prescribed bacrtim to take every time after sex because she was getting bacterial infections. Yes if you have a full blown case of Chl or Gon with a high bacterial load, you would take what Geneva said. The idea is to catch it before it develops, therefore the daily use.


Thanks.

These for a cure rather than prevention, yes? If so, was I correct that the infected person would only find out 2 weeks after contact, having only gotten false negative results any earlier?

Besides tarping up, are there any broad acting precautionary measures for those that simply must go bare? 😁.

Cheers. G.

Transporter
04-20-23, 01:37
I don't recommend any type of antibotics. But it has become my current practice to bring in the doc to get a good cocktail of shots and IV if needed before I leave the PI. Its just for my peace of mind.

VictorHugo999
04-21-23, 12:28
Hi Dr be.

Nit sure if this came too late.

There is a massage joint within the airport, they can allow you a HJ unwind.

Hope this helps. Victor.

McDicker
04-23-23, 03:59
Breezed through town for a short visit. Burgos sure is tons of fun but man does it get expensive fast. Are they trying to make up for lost time? Don't remember it being this expensive 12 years ago. Even the beer prices were steep at every bar I stepped into. I did meet several dating app talent for some fun activities. Deleted my accounts though, on my way to pattaya this afternoon. Problem I had was many dating app girls lived outside the city. I can't give out contact numbers or receive pms but maybe search pina for them? Micaella was hot, pretty sure her name was her profile name. Hyx1 another. Was having trouble finding girls on my laptop, the cities don't seem to match the apps search. Now I did find that I could view a profile that the app wouldn't allow by typing in her profile name into the search bar. Another trick for girls you can't message is to send one to any girl. Then hit refresh and by waiting out the timer you can now send a chat to that girl. The app let's you then continue messaging after that first one.

Some beautiful ladies here in Manila but they can be so hard to find. Thailand can be more expensive but there's so much more.

WestCoast1
04-24-23, 00:31
Burgos sure is tons of fun but man does it get expensive fast. Are they trying to make up for lost time? Don't remember it being this expensive 12 years ago.MD: Interesting perspective, which has already been covered here. To recap:

1) 12 years means a near-doubling of prices of most things, anywhere. Inflation.

2) Covid resulted in rampant inflation, the world over.

3) Burgos barfine and tip amounts are the same as before covid. 2019 barfine amounts in almost every bar was p3900, and typical tip amount was 5000 (the girl getting 1000 of the barfine amount, combined with her tip was about p6000 total for her). Current barfine amounts are either p3500,3900, or 4000, tip amount 5-6000. LD's are still 1/10 the barfine amount.

MD, what bars did you hit? What were the girls like? What bar (s) did you pull from? If you didn't take a gogo girl, did you take a SW? Or alternately did you take from Tinder (or such electronic), or LAC? What did the girl cost? A descriptive FR would be nice.

Transporter
04-24-23, 01:39
Breezed through town for a short visit. Micaella was hot, pretty sure her name was her profile name. Hyx1 another. Was having trouble finding girls on my laptop, the cities don't seem to match the apps search. Now I did find that I could view a profile that the app wouldn't allow by typing in her profile name into the search bar. Another trick for girls you can't message is to send one to any girl. Then hit refresh and by waiting out the timer you can now send a chat to that girl. The app let's you then continue messaging after that first one.
Some beautiful ladies here in Manila but they can be so hard to find. Thailand can be more expensive but there's so much more.Found this, but the pixel art is in the eye of the beholder. But thanks for the share

DiorHomie
04-27-23, 09:36
How much are the full body massages with handjobs going for in Metro Manila? These are freelancers girls that do hotel appointments.

WestCoast1
04-27-23, 13:22
How much are the full body massages with handjobs going for in Metro Manila? These are freelancers girls that do hotel appointments.P500 for the massage. Extras negotiable for each girl. The HJ might be an extra 500-1000. Lots of such FL gals available on Burgos and Durban Sts.

Koliflaver
05-03-23, 09:24
Gentlemen, please don't start roasting me with RTFF and so on, but I genuinely couldn't find any relevant info regarding my question, the question being:

Is there any action to be found around the Marriott / Newport?

I will be at the Marriott next week attending an event. With others from the company in attendance, its a bit difficult for me to sneak away for anything more than a couple of hours (read that as a few beers and a quicky), so going to LA Cafe and the likes is a challenge. Appreciate any useful info here. I used the search function in the Manila and Phillipine sections but got nothing informative.

Thanks in advance.

WestCoast1
05-03-23, 23:11
I will be at the Marriott next week attending an event. With others from the company in attendance, its a bit difficult for me to sneak away for anything more than a couple of hours (read that as a few beers and a quicky), so going to LA Cafe and the likes is a challenge. Appreciate any useful info here. I used the search function in the Manila and Phillipine sections but got nothing informative.

Thanks in advance.Escort services or Tinder.

MohdirFan82
05-03-23, 23:54
Guys pardon my grammar mistakes in advance, English is not my first language.

Landed in Manila early April and stayed 2 weeks. I have two disadvantages.

1- I look Arab / Indian.

2- Not having deep pockets.

Anyhow, 95% of girls I set up for weeks ahead turned out to be flaky. 5% or 4 girls who showed up are not as good looking as I like but still better than nothing.

My main game was in LA cafe, Robinson Mall, and Little bit of Burgos.

I had more success in Robinson than anywhere else, stayed at Malate (Palm hotel) and red planet in Makati.

I paid around 1000 peso to 2000 peso in Robinson mall. Fortunately I have good taste (in my own way).

I like girl next door look, little curvy but not fat, and preferred no baby (not easy to find) kind of girl.

L. A cafe was hit and miss, paid About anywhere from 2000 to 3000ST (I don't do long time).

Pina love, Tinder, Filipina Cupid is mainly useless if you are in town, unless you talk to freelancer.

Overall, I will not waste my time much in Manila, but Straight head to AC, or Cebu next time. It was okay trip but not as fun as Thailand where you get what you pay for.

I need to try other parts of Philippines before I judge. This is my 2nd trip to Manila.

CurtisMack
05-04-23, 05:51
I will be traveling to the Philippines for the first time later this year. I will be setting up my home base in Manila. I am hoping to find a pinay in Manila to travel with me to Boracay for a short 3 days / 2 nights trip. I was hoping to get some advice and / or insights from people who have traveled with a pinay before.

My plan:

-Spend a week searching for and meeting with ladies on seeking.

-If I meet someone who I vibe with and I feel like won't bail on me, buy her round trip flights myself (which of course would require her to provide me personal information like her real name and DOB).

-I will be offering to pay for all expenses during the trip (I will be staying at a luxury 5-star resort) plus an allowance.

Some potential difficulties I foresee:

-The short amount of time I have in Manila to find a girl willing to travel with me. I would have about 8-10 days in Manila before my trip to Boracay. I would like to meet a girl at least twice, but preferably at least three times, before making the decision.

-I am an overweight Asian-American man. It seems pinays prefer white guys, so I am not sure how much my chances are hurt by being East Asian and overweight.

-Availability of girls. I imagine most girls have jobs, school, or something else that would make it hard to be able to leave for three days. In order to maximize my chances I plan to leave Manila on a Friday flight departing around noon and returning Sunday afternoon around 4 pm. I figure this would maximize my chances of finding a girl who can travel, especially college girls who don't have classes on weekends.

-Girl hesitant to give me personal info required to book her flight. I want to minimize my chances of a girl bailing on me, so I figure buying plane ticket myself is the best way. Alternatively I can offer to reimburse her after she pays for the flight herself, but I assume girls would prefer I pay. Third option is to buy the ticket at Manila airport if she shows up.

Any insights or advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't know if I am being naive, but based on some reports I've read here there will be plenty of girls jumping for an opportunity for a luxury stay in Boracay. Do I have a snowball's chance to find a girl to go with me? Should I be using other sites other than seeking for my search? Again any advice would be truly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Goferring
05-04-23, 08:35
Gentlemen, please don't start roasting me with RTFF and so on, but I genuinely couldn't find any relevant info regarding my question, the question being:

Is there any action to be found around the Marriott / Newport?

I will be at the Marriott next week attending an event. With others from the company in attendance, its a bit difficult for me to sneak away for anything more than a couple of hours (read that as a few beers and a quicky), so going to LA Cafe and the likes is a challenge. Appreciate any useful info here. I used the search function in the Manila and Phillipine sections but got nothing informative.

Thanks in advance.Your request is a little vague but I'll assume you don't want Debbie from HR to see you walking through the lobby with a couple of 19 yo bargirls nor have to explain a 6 hour absence away from everyone??

Option 1 is an in-house rub and tug. Just dial a massage to your room. Others can chime in if Marriott massage girls will also provide Full Service. Likely not. Expect to be grossly overcharged for the convenience but beggars can't be choosers.

Option 2 is run to a foreigner friendly bar (any on Burgos will do) immediately explain to mama that you want to see a lineup of girls who can leave for a ST now. Select the most appealing. You will have been in the bar 15 minutes max. Take her to SOGO for as long or short a time as you are comfortable with. Some bars do have onsite rooms if you want them but it's a risk if someone sees you onsite.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
05-04-23, 22:14
I will be traveling to the Philippines for the first time later this year. I will be setting up my home base in Manila. I am hoping to find a pinay in Manila to travel with me to Boracay for a short 3 days / 2 nights trip. I was hoping to get some advice and / or insights from people who have traveled with a pinay before.

My plan:

-Spend a week searching for and meeting with ladies on seeking.

-If I meet someone who I vibe with and I feel like won't bail on me, buy her round trip flights myself (which of course would require her to provide me personal information like her real name and DOB).

-I will be offering to pay for all expenses during the trip (I will be staying at a luxury 5-star resort) plus an allowance.

Some potential difficulties I foresee:

-The short amount of time I have in Manila to find a girl willing to travel with me. I would have about 8-10 days in Manila before my trip to Boracay. I would like to meet a girl at least twice, but preferably at least three times, before making the decision.

-I am an overweight Asian-American man. It seems pinays prefer white guys, so I am not sure how much my chances are hurt by being East Asian and overweight.

-Availability of girls. I imagine most girls have jobs, school, or something else that would make it hard to be able to leave for three days. In order to maximize my chances I plan to leave Manila on a Friday flight departing around noon and returning Sunday afternoon around 4 pm. I figure this would maximize my chances of finding a girl who can travel, especially college girls who don't have classes on weekends.

-Girl hesitant to give me personal info required to book her flight. I want to minimize my chances of a girl bailing on me, so I figure buying plane ticket myself is the best way. Alternatively I can offer to reimburse her after she pays for the flight herself, but I assume girls would prefer I pay. Third option is to buy the ticket at Manila airport if she shows up.

Any insights or advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't know if I am being naive, but based on some reports I've read here there will be plenty of girls jumping for an opportunity for a luxury stay in Boracay. Do I have a snowball's chance to find a girl to go with me? Should I be using other sites other than seeking for my search? Again any advice would be truly appreciated. Thanks in advance.Your plan is very feasible. Many guys travel with girls ranging from good girls thru to full on hookers. 3 days is a sweet spot: long enough to entice girls but not so long that you become trapped with her.

Seeking is one of many options. It's the highest in the cost / quality curve. She will want the trip to be well compensated but will likely to be educated and / or employed, good company and pretty. Other options are the other online apps or even meeting a girl organically during the day / at a food hall etc. I'd probably stay away from the hard core hookers.

In terms of tickets and payments the process is 1/ find someone you vibe with first. Do not use a potential holiday as a carrot to meet. You want to ensure that you get on first and not have her behave just to win the prize. 2/ mention you are going to Bora and "do you want to come?" 3/ if yes, get her full name and DOB. 4/ if no (unlikely), go to your second choice and repeat. 5/ go online and book your and her tickets and hotel for 2. You keep the tickets. Do not have her take money and book etc. There is little incentive for her not to just take the money and disappear 6/. Go and enjoy yourself. Decide on how much you want to do together: taking her scuba diving, jet ski rides etc can get surprisingly expensive. She will be 100% OK will the staying in the room while you go and do these and then return for an afternoon session. Be prepared to buy her a bikini and other trinkets that she "forgot".

10 days in MNL is plenty of time to meet, road test and select girls. As I said, don't mention the holiday before selection to ensure you see them in their natural state. To save time, screen the girls heavily before meeting. A shop assistant or similar will easily take time off, a girl with a real CBD job probably can't. Decide on the calibre of girl that you want beforehand.

Have you seen the average monger? There are not too many male models to compete with. Asian guys have a reputation of being free spenders and less demanding so are actually very attractive to many girls.

You will be flooded with options. Your plan to travel over a weekend is good as it widens the pool of candidates.

Girls are familiar with showing ID multiple times a day so won't balk are giving you their details to buy the ticket. They will understand that if they don't, then they have no chance of coming. Remember you buy the ticket. She won't have the money to buy it upfront and you don't want to hand her cash and hope for the best.

You have an excellent chance of pulling this off. Other sites would be Filipino Cupid or Date in Asia. I wouldn't fall in love with a bar girl and take her. Don't rull out meeting a girl during the day or in a food hall etc. Pinas are amazingly approachable.

Personally, I only start looking online when I'm in country. "Meet after school?" Is much more effective than "meet next month, if I come at all?

Enjoy. G.

If you want the downsides of travelling with a hooker:


Hi guys,

Just a post on a trip I am having to highlight some of the risks and rewards of taking a multi day / week trip with a BG......


OK, so the trip above is now finished. Her attitude improved over the second week but still wasn't all that I had hoped for......

CurtisMack
05-05-23, 00:08
Thank you for your response and recommendations. Especially this.


Do not use a potential holiday as a carrot to meet. You want to ensure that you get on first and not have her behave just to win the prize.My plan was to mention the trip in my profile to try to get more responses, but I will take it out.

Dg8787
05-05-23, 02:08
Your plan is very feasible. Many guys travel with girls ranging from good girls thru to full on hookers. 3 days is a sweet spot: long enough to entice girls but not so long that you become trapped with her.

Seeking is one of many options. It's the highest in the cost / quality curve. She will want the trip to be well compensated but will likely to be educated and / or employed, good company and pretty. Other options are the other online apps or even meeting a girl organically during the day / at a food hall etc. I'd probably stay away from the hard core hookers.

In terms of tickets and payments the process is 1/ find someone you vibe with first. Do not use a potential holiday as a carrot to meet. You want to ensure that you get on first and not have her behave just to win the prize. 2/ mention you are going to Bora and "do you want to come?" 3/ if yes, get her full name and DOB. 4/ if no (unlikely), go to your second choice and repeat. 5/ go online and book your and her tickets and hotel for 2. You keep the tickets. Do not have her take money and book etc. There is little incentive for her not to just take the money and disappear 6/. Go and enjoy yourself. Decide on how much you want to do together: taking her scuba diving, jet ski rides etc can get surprisingly expensive. She will be 100% OK will the staying in the room while you go and do these and then return for an afternoon session. Be prepared to buy her a bikini and other trinkets that she "forgot".

10 days in MNL is plenty of time to meet, road test and select girls. As I said, don't mention the holiday before selection to ensure you see them in their natural state. To save time, screen the girls heavily before meeting. A shop assistant or similar will easily take time off, a girl with a real CBD job probably can't. Decide on the calibre of girl that you want beforehand.All great advice.

I would add to always make sure the girl's pictured ID is valid for airplane travel. Example is a girl might only have a valid high school or college ID which may not be valid for airplane travel. It may lack her birthdate on it or itself is not valid for travel. Get online to make sure which ID is valid for travel before booking.

WestCoast1
05-05-23, 09:52
All great advice.

I would add to always make sure the girl's pictured ID is valid for airplane travel. Example is a girl might only have a valid high school or college ID which may not be valid for airplane travel. It may lack her birthdate on it or itself is not valid for travel. Get online to make sure which ID is valid for travel before booking.Concur. Valid ID's are government-issued. Those issued by colleges or employers are not valid for travel. Even a Barangay ID might be OK for travel and hotel check-in. College / employer ID's might not have birthdates, addresses, or signature areas. A high school ID would be reason for you to RUN FOR THE HILLS. Take a picture of any such ID, regardless her age, and keep it in the cloud.

Rocinha
05-05-23, 12:02
It appears from watching some Youtube videos that some new bars / nightclubs have opened on P Burgos Street. I see a bar called Neon Nights has opened up. It appears to be a nightclub / disco rather than a Go Go bar.

Has anyone been inside and can provide the rundown on this place?

Manda
05-05-23, 13:34
I will be visiting Phils. Alabang area. Any advise to get freelancers or nice massage place. Thank you.

WestCoast1
05-06-23, 00:28
It appears from watching some Youtube videos that some new bars / nightclubs have opened on P Burgos Street. I see a bar called Neon Nights has opened up. It appears to be a nightclub / disco rather than a Go Go bar.

Has anyone been inside and can provide the rundown on this place?Please click 'advanced search' at the top of the page, and scroll down in the scroll countries box to the Philippines threads. Type my username into the username box WestCoast1, and enter they keyword Neon. Also click the box next to 'Also search in Subforums', make sure its ON. There are reports (with pics) of Neon Nights in the Makati thread.

PIExplorer
05-08-23, 01:55
I had more success in Robinson than anywhere else, stayed at Malate (Palm hotel) and red planet in Makati.

I paid around 1000 peso to 2000 peso in Robinson mall. Fortunately I have good taste (in my own way).


MohdirFan82, would you mind describing your Robinson mall strategies, tips for success, things to do / not do et. ? I have planned my vacation and also staying in Malate, hoping to find some freelancers in Robinson mall. Thank you in advance.

LuvChicas
05-08-23, 07:54
For me, picking up freelancers inside the mall is practically dead, since the pandemic. Since the Pi opened up there airports to tourists, I have returned at least 5 times to seek the pleasures of the Pinays. But, you can find tail outside the mall on the corner. Across the street, you will see the McDonald's. Most of the time, many will be run by a handler pimpette. They usually ask for 2,500 P but it is always negotiable for a little less. Some may ask for payment up front, but that is a NO GO for me! I recommend asking what's on the menu, and reach an accord what you want! Good luck on your ventures and pleasures! Luvchicas, on my last day in MNL.

Transporter
05-08-23, 10:33
For me, picking up freelancers inside the mall is practically dead, since the pandemic. Since the Pi opened up there airports to tourists, I have returned at least 5 times to seek the pleasures of the Pinays. But, you can find tail outside the mall on the corner. Across the street, you will see the McDonald's. Most of the time, many will be run by a handler pimpette. They usually ask for 2,500 P but it is always negotiable for a little less. Some may ask for payment up front, but that is a NO GO for me! I recommend asking what's on the menu, and reach an accord what you want! Good luck on your ventures and pleasures! Luvchicas, on my last day in MNL.I would have to admit that the girls working robinsons over the past week or so were the best I have ever seen there. I still wouldn't pull any, but at least they weren't hideous, had to do a couple of double takes this time.

Radical Guy
05-08-23, 19:27
When I was in Malate, a couple of months ago, there were a lot of girls handing out flyers for massages. Some of these girls were quite hot. Are they generally available for full service or are they genuinely just marketing massage services?

RG.

Locamotive
05-08-23, 19:34
It appears from watching some Youtube videos that some new bars / nightclubs have opened on P Burgos Street. I see a bar called Neon Nights has opened up. It appears to be a nightclub / disco rather than a Go Go bar.

Has anyone been inside and can provide the rundown on this place?If you like your music so loud you can't hear yourself think. You will love it.

WestCoast1
05-08-23, 22:01
When I was in Malate, a couple of months ago, there were a lot of girls handing out flyers for massages. Some of these girls were quite hot. Are they generally available for full service or are they genuinely just marketing massage services?They are available for extra goodies. They hang on the northwest corner of Adriatico / Pedro Gil, over to Mabini / Pedro Gil. They pass out a flier or biz card with their name and phone number.

MohdirFan82
05-09-23, 01:54
I will suggest you not only to depend on Robinson mall but also PinaLove and LA cafe. I normally hang around entrance near Starbucks and make eye contact with Freelancers.

Don't worry they will make eye contact with you and sometimes come to you. Day time LA cafe is totally waste of time, and very fuggly girls.


MohdirFan82, would you mind describing your Robinson mall strategies, tips for success, things to do / not do et. ? I have planned my vacation and also staying in Malate, hoping to find some freelancers in Robinson mall. Thank you in advance.

Sammon
05-09-23, 11:53
When I was in Malate, a couple of months ago, there were a lot of girls handing out flyers for massages. Some of these girls were quite hot. Are they generally available for full service or are they genuinely just marketing massage services?

RG.There are bait and switch and also underage scams. Beware!

Dirty Tom
05-11-23, 05:07
Hello friends, I asked this earlier but did not get much of a response, hence trying again.

Looking for data points on what it costs for extra service with girls from Yonaguni or Hoshiko spa or the Shogun spa. Both I found on MR.

They have range of options from 2 k-5 k pesos for the massage only, not the release.

I want to know what the girls would charge me for the release, how many shots for that and time, and the services they would be willing to offer.

Any data points would help making a decision. So I do not have to disappoint myself and pay them a return fee, etc.

Please help!

DoktorEn
05-11-23, 20:18
There are bait and switch and also underage scams. Beware!Scams as in extortion?

Dg8787
05-12-23, 01:20
Scams as in extortion?Of course. Some are entrapments to relieve you of a substantial amount of $$.

DoktorEn
05-12-23, 21:45
Of course. Some are entrapments to relieve you of a substantial amount of $$.Happy to say I never availed myself of any of their offers. Did seem a little bit sketchy to be honest.

WestCoast1
05-13-23, 00:08
Happy to say I never availed myself of any of their offers. Did seem a little bit sketchy to be honest.Not necessarily. The vast majority of time, transactions occur where everyone is satisfied. Poor lady performance would be the more-often issue.

Rocinha
05-14-23, 02:54
If you like your music so loud you can't hear yourself think. You will love it.I note Locamotive's comment that the music is so loud you can't hear yourself think so I assume that Neon is the "High Society " of P Burgos?

There is also a new venue called "Loop Club" at 5038 P Burgos Street which appears to be a nightclub (and also a challenge to ones hearing).

I haven't been to Manila since Covid but it appears (from YouTube) that a lot of new venues have opened up in P Burgos.

Is it changing or as the Chinese phrase goes "the more things change the more they stay the same" ?

Transporter
05-17-23, 20:39
Hello friends, I asked this earlier but did not get much of a response, hence trying again. Looking for data points on what it costs for extra service with girls from Yonaguni or Hoshiko spa or the Shogun spa. Both I found on MR. They have range of options from 2 k-5 k pesos for the massage only, not the release. I want to know what the girls would charge me for the release, how many shots for that and time, and the services they would be willing to offer. Any data points would help making a decision. So I do not have to disappoint myself and pay them a return fee, etc. Please help!It will depend on which girl you get, the more experienced will have their own formula as to what they will ask / charge. But in general just figure it will be the same as the massage rate. Ie if the massage was 3 k, then the extra will be about 3 k. Expect to have to bargain (it does kill the mood) as they will start high.

It would be cheaper to get a massage if you want a massage and the extra from a pro as cumulatively it will be cheaper, unless of course you were after the nuru. If you straight up just want to drain the lizard, its better to just do a search for escorts. It will cost about the same 4-5 K and that will get you 2 shots, and you might be able to sneak in a simple massage.

Sammon
05-17-23, 21:12
Hello friends, I asked this earlier but did not get much of a response, hence trying again.

Looking for data points on what it costs for extra service with girls from Yonaguni or Hoshiko spa or the Shogun spa. Both I found on MR.

They have range of options from 2 k-5 k pesos for the massage only, not the release.

I want to know what the girls would charge me for the release, how many shots for that and time, and the services they would be willing to offer.

Any data points would help making a decision. So I do not have to disappoint myself and pay them a return fee, etc.

Please help!What kind of a massage costs 2000-5000 pesos in Manila? I get two hours hot stone very good massage at their place for 900 pesos. Let us say in call just for massage costs extra 500. So the total should not be more than 1500 just for the massage. Usually in call means there will be extras. Extras and the cost can be be discussed in your room. Most massage places allow in calls. Just call random massage places and ask them for in call massage. One time maybe cost 2000-3000 for sex. So the total should not be more than 5000.

KenjiYoshioka
05-17-23, 23:04
Is it changing or as the Chinese phrase goes "the more things change the more they stay the same" ?Pretty sure that's a French saying. "La plus ca change. . . "

KenjiYoshioka
05-17-23, 23:13
I haven't found much by RTFF, and I'm wondering if there's some kind of service where you can get a girl to keep you company in the car from the airport to your hotel? I know lots of escorts advertise BJ in car, but I really don't intend on renting a car or hiring a driver every day.

Can I just get a taxi and hire a girl to blow me on the way to the hotel? Or is there some other kind of solution? If anyone has any info, it would be greatly appreciated.

Travel Fox
05-17-23, 23:50
For me, picking up freelancers inside the mall is practically dead, since the pandemic. Since the Pi opened up there airports to tourists, I have returned at least 5 times to seek the pleasures of the Pinays. But, you can find tail outside the mall on the corner. Across the street, you will see the McDonald's. Most of the time, many will be run by a handler pimpette. They usually ask for 2,500 P but it is always negotiable for a little less. Some may ask for payment up front, but that is a NO GO for me! I recommend asking what's on the menu, and reach an accord what you want! Good luck on your ventures and pleasures! Luvchicas, on my last day in MNL.I've never paid more than 1 k outside Robinsons.

The most I been asked was 1.5 k quickly countered.

Last trip was 12/2019.

I'll be back soon to bring some clarity to that market.

CurtisMack
05-18-23, 02:55
Hello,

Great contributors to the Philippines forums. It's me again (I asked for feedback on my plans to BYOG from Manila). Thank you for the feedback. It was much appreciated. As I started planning in more detail my upcoming vacation to the Philippines, my plans have changed a little and had a few more questions. Any feedback would truly be much appreciated.

I now plan to be in Manila for six days instead of ten (I added another island destination to my travel plans). I assume that's enough time to test drive girls and set up a BYOG?

I now am thinking I would like to BYOG for several destinations back-to-back. This would require a girl to travel with me for seven days straight. How difficult (or maybe easy) will it be to find a non-pro to travel with me for that long? I still plan to look only on SA, with the exception of trying my luck with meeting one at the shopping mall food court. Also, I have no problems sending her back early if things don't go very well.

If I cannot land a BYOG for the whole island hopping journey, I plan to just send the girl home after the first destination. Which of these destinations would a girl be most excited to go to, so I can make that the first leg of my island hopping journey? El Nido, Boracay or Coron?

If I BYOG for only one destination, will days of the week matter in improving my chances? I figure a weekend trip Fri-Sun would be easier for a student since there might not be any classes, but on the other hand I figure middle of the week might be easier for like a shop girl to take off work because I assume weekends are busier.

Thanks again for any feedback. Sorry for the long posts!

KumuMan
05-18-23, 06:46
Hello,

Great contributors to the Philippines forums. It's me again (I asked for feedback on my plans to BYOG from Manila). Thank you for the feedback. It was much appreciated. As I started planning in more detail my upcoming vacation to the Philippines, my plans have changed a little and had a few more questions. Any feedback would truly be much appreciated.

I now plan to be in Manila for six days instead of ten (I added another island destination to my travel plans). I assume that's enough time to test drive girls and set up a BYOG?

I now am thinking I would like to BYOG for several destinations back-to-back. This would require a girl to travel with me for seven days straight. How difficult (or maybe easy) will it be to find a non-pro to travel with me for that long? I still plan to look only on SA, with the exception of trying my luck with meeting one at the shopping mall food court. Also, I have no problems sending her back early if things don't go very well.

If I cannot land a BYOG for the whole island hopping journey, I plan to just send the girl home after the first destination. Which of these destinations would a girl be most excited to go to, so I can make that the first leg of my island hopping journey? El Nido, Boracay or Coron?

If I BYOG for only one destination, will days of the week matter in improving my chances? I figure a weekend trip Fri-Sun would be easier for a student since there might not be any classes, but on the other hand I figure middle of the week might be easier for like a shop girl to take off work because I assume weekends are busier.

Thanks again for any feedback. Sorry for the long posts!Semester break is late June.

WestCoast1
05-18-23, 08:00
Can I just get a taxi and hire a girl to blow me on the way to the hotel? Or is there some other kind of solution? If anyone has any info, it would be greatly appreciated.Its a good fantasy, but questionable. Finding a driver who is willing to allow that is real iffy. Finding a girl who is willing is also another iffy. Other gents weigh in.

WestCoast1
05-18-23, 08:08
I've never paid more than 1 k outside Robinsons.

The most I been asked was 1.5 k quickly countered.

Last trip was 12/2019.

I'll be back soon to bring some clarity to that market.Thanks for clarifying the timeline (pre-covid). As discussed on the board for a year or more, Covid has wildly sent prices soaring in certain sectors. For example, AC barfines went from p2-3 k before covid, to 4500-5000 when AC re-opened last year. Pre / post-covid price comparisons are difficult to make. All prices change, not only over time, but even by the same girl. Her hot ass might routinely get p3 k for ST, but in a pinch she might hop down to 1500 today, or 1000 even, for a quickie in order to pay the family water bill.

GDreams
05-18-23, 11:53
Thanks for clarifying the timeline (pre-covid). As discussed on the board for a year or more, Covid has wildly sent prices soaring in certain sectors. For example, AC barfines went from p2-3 k before covid, to 4500-5000 when AC re-opened last year. Pre / post-covid price comparisons are difficult to make. All prices change, not only over time, but even by the same girl. Her hot ass might routinely get p3 k for ST, but in a pinch she might hop down to 1500 today, or 1000 even, for a quickie in order to pay the family water bill.I pay somewhat more but I've never seen a girl at Robinsons I would take.

Sammon
05-18-23, 12:11
Hello,

Great contributors to the Philippines forums. It's me again (I asked for feedback on my plans to BYOG from Manila). Thank you for the feedback. It was much appreciated. As I started planning in more detail my upcoming vacation to the Philippines, my plans have changed a little and had a few more questions. Any feedback would truly be much appreciated.

I now plan to be in Manila for six days instead of ten (I added another island destination to my travel plans). I assume that's enough time to test drive girls and set up a BYOG?

I now am thinking I would like to BYOG for several destinations back-to-back. This would require a girl to travel with me for seven days straight. How difficult (or maybe easy) will it be to find a non-pro to travel with me for that long? I still plan to look only on SA, with the exception of trying my luck with meeting one at the shopping mall food court. Also, I have no problems sending her back early if things don't go very well.

If I cannot land a BYOG for the whole island hopping journey, I plan to just send the girl home after the first destination. Which of these destinations would a girl be most excited to go to, so I can make that the first leg of my island hopping journey? El Nido, Boracay or Coron?

If I BYOG for only one destination, will days of the week matter in improving my chances? I figure a weekend trip Fri-Sun would be easier for a student since there might not be any classes, but on the other hand I figure middle of the week might be easier for like a shop girl to take off work because I assume weekends are busier.

Thanks again for any feedback. Sorry for the long posts!Having taken girls on vacation few times I will offer some tidbits. My girls are strictly from dating sites.

Never taken a girl for more than 3 nights. The whole thing boils down to chemistry. Are or she a boring companion? You cannot be laying in bed and having sex whole seven days. Not many Philippine girls are into beaches, beach activities or snorkeling or diving or taking island tours. The whole country is next to beaches because of islands nation. Most do not want to expose their skin to sunlight because they will get dark easily. There will be many girls go with if offered right compensation.

Next is logistics. You book tickets, plan etc. Most are non cancellable. Firstly you need to test drive. Stay with the couple of days in a hotel to see how you interact. The girls I took have been with me many times before and in fact it is their idea to go on vacation. It is not easy to get up in the morning and tell the girl you are shipping her off.

Sexwise girl will be tired after couple of days. Plan accordingly.

Muttley81
05-18-23, 12:22
I haven't found much by RTFF, and I'm wondering if there's some kind of service where you can get a girl to keep you company in the car from the airport to your hotel? I know lots of escorts advertise BJ in car, but I really don't intend on renting a car or hiring a driver every day.

Can I just get a taxi and hire a girl to blow me on the way to the hotel? Or is there some other kind of solution? If anyone has any info, it would be greatly appreciated.Don't want to be rude, but this is absolute insanity. Finding a driver in advance willing to risk you firing off in his car is low probability, finding an escort willing to wait for you at airport is low probability, two mixed together are nigh on impossible. Save it for arrival at hotel or sort out fantasy when you're in Manila and can ask around for the willing.

Travel Fox
05-18-23, 16:04
Thanks for clarifying the timeline (pre-covid). As discussed on the board for a year or more, Covid has wildly sent prices soaring in certain sectors. For example, AC barfines went from p2-3 k before covid, to 4500-5000 when AC re-opened last year. Pre / post-covid price comparisons are difficult to make. All prices change, not only over time, but even by the same girl. Her hot ass might routinely get p3 k for ST, but in a pinch she might hop down to 1500 today, or 1000 even, for a quickie in order to pay the family water bill.Price is 1 k unless she's a rarity.

Mamasan may be in the mix on occasion but she gets 200 p.

Inflation should change nothing in that particular market.

2500 p is MADNESS.

CurtisMack
05-18-23, 16:47
Never taken a girl for more than 3 nights. The whole thing boils down to chemistry. Are or she a boring companion? You cannot be laying in bed and having sex whole seven days. Not many Philippine girls are into beaches, beach activities or snorkeling or diving or taking island tours. The whole country is next to beaches because of islands nation. Most do not want to expose their skin to sunlight because they will get dark easily. There will be many girls go with if offered right compensation.

Next is logistics. You book tickets, plan etc. Most are non cancellable. Firstly you need to test drive. Stay with the couple of days in a hotel to see how you interact. The girls I took have been with me many times before and in fact it is their idea to go on vacation. It is not easy to get up in the morning and tell the girl you are shipping her off.

Sexwise girl will be tired after couple of days. Plan accordingly.Thank you for the valuable insights. In terms of booking it is pretty low risk for me, as I will mostly be booking hotel rooms and activities that I would have by myself anyways. But your insight about how not many Filipino girls are into touristy activities is enlightening. I will keep that in mind as my travel plans develop. Thank you, your feedback is much appreciated!

Dg8787
05-18-23, 17:24
I've never paid more than 1 k outside Robinsons.

The most I been asked was 1.5 k quickly countered.

Last trip was 12/2019.

I'll be back soon to bring some clarity to that market.Can you kindly clarify how you will be clarifying the market back to 1 k please?

WestCoast1
05-19-23, 00:23
Price is 1 k unless she's a rarity.

Mamasan may be in the mix on occasion but she gets 200 p.

Inflation should change nothing in that particular market.

2500 p is MADNESS.P2500 would not have been a huge overpayment before covid, it would have been simply a newb mistake (or something done for convenience sake). Regardless of what you experienced pre-covid, some things have changed. Some for the better, some not. For instance, Burgos prices have risen far less than inflation, while AC prices have roughly doubled. Are market forces (ie, the rich K's moving in) madness? The price per pound of ground hamburger doubled in my home country where my family lives during covid, and gasoline rocked up to $5 per gallon at one point. It wasn't madness to pay that. We often use the term 'the going rate' on this forum, then we don't like it when the going rate changes.

BTW, there are more than inflationary items working here.

Goferring
05-19-23, 07:58
Don't want to be rude, but this is absolute insanity. Finding a driver in advance willing to risk you firing off in his car is low probability, finding an escort willing to wait for you at airport is low probability, two mixed together are nigh on impossible. Save it for arrival at hotel or sort out fantasy when you're in Manila and can ask around for the willing.ABC did offer this service to AC so there must be buyers and sellers somewhere. Hell, they would even organise a helicopter if you asked nice enough.

I have no idea if they are still available, costs, etc.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring
05-19-23, 08:02
Can you kindly clarify how you will be clarifying the market back to 1 k please?Simple. Offer 1 k and wait. However, TF could be waiting a long time or have to dramatically lower his standards.

Having said that, I have been surprised in the past at what girls will accept when pressed / in need or when the guy has the luxury of time to wait.

Enjoy. G.

Travel Fox
05-19-23, 16:28
P2500 would not have been a huge overpayment before covid, it would have been simply a newb mistake (or something done for convenience sake). Regardless of what you experienced pre-covid, some things have changed. Some for the better, some not. For instance, Burgos prices have risen far less than inflation, while AC prices have roughly doubled. Are market forces (ie, the rich K's moving in) madness? The price per pound of ground hamburger doubled in my home country where my family lives during covid, and gasoline rocked up to $5 per gallon at one point. It wasn't madness to pay that. We often use the term 'the going rate' on this forum, then we don't like it when the going rate changes.

BTW, there are more than inflationary items working here.Subject is Robinsons, P Burgos and Angeles prices are set differently (by the establishment).

They raise price, gringos pay it, NEW PRICE!

I believe the inflation there in those venues.

Travel Fox
05-19-23, 16:34
Can you kindly clarify how you will be clarifying the market back to 1 k please?Going to location (hardest part, airfares are: vomit).

Taking ladies from location.

Reporting back.

Maybe I'll have a surprise but I am good at the hunt, so we'll see.

Unfortunately my first crack will be September / October.

(ladies know me, what I pay and talk amongst themselves so I may have a head start, though that may have changed too over the years).

I love a challenge, lets see.

Travel Fox
05-19-23, 16:39
Simple. Offer 1 k and wait. However, TF could be waiting a long time or have to dramatically lower his standards.

Having said that, I have been surprised in the past at what girls will accept when pressed / in need or when the guy has the luxury of time to wait.

Enjoy. G.Usually no wait, they looked at a 1 k note as a solid bird in the hand and take it. I turned a couple of occasional higher asks down only to make a second round the block and lady approaches with smile "ok 1 k".

Dg8787
05-19-23, 17:22
Going to location (hardest part, airfares are: vomit).

Taking ladies from location.

Reporting back.

Maybe I'll have a surprise but I am good at the hunt, so we'll see.

Unfortunately my first crack will be September / October.

(ladies know me, what I pay and talk amongst themselves so I may have a head start, though that may have changed too over the years).

I love a challenge, lets see.I will await your report to see how one man with one dick with 1 k will change the market back to 2019. Of course the girls will have to be at least 7's to count.

Travel Fox
05-19-23, 23:30
I will await your report to see how one man with one dick with 1 k will change the market back to 2019. Of course the girls will have to be at least 7's to count.You aren't important enough to dictate any parameters, I'll do it how I want.

Why are you waiting on anything another man does?

Travel Fox
05-20-23, 13:07
Please You Tube: "Why has it become ok to be a fool in the Philippines".

I know its been a long time for some of us, but let's keep ourselves in some sort of check.

ManFromHeaven
05-20-23, 14:16
Hi all. I am planning for Manila trip in a month or so. I am planning to stay at City Garden hotel. If I want to go to LA cafe from here what transportation I need to use? On the maps it is showing 2 hours by walk LOL. So are there any buses or other means of transportation to go there except by taxi? If I pick up a girl from here how should I take to my hotel in P Burgos?

TIA.

WestCoast1
05-20-23, 16:44
Hi all. I am planning for Manila trip in a month or so. I am planning to stay at City Garden hotel. If I want to go to LA cafe from here what transportation I need to use? On the maps it is showing 2 hours by walk LOL. So are there any buses or other means of transportation to go there except by taxi? If I pick up a girl from here how should I take to my hotel in P Burgos?

TIA.Taxi or Grab Taxi, or Grab car, are your options here. There is no bus that runs from Makati City (City Garden and Burgos St) to Malate City (LA Cafe). Cost at night is about p250 ($5 US Dollars) each way in a taxi. The only cheaper option is taking a jeepney from LAC on del Pilar St to Buendia St, then change jeeps and ride (2 rides) to Makati Avenue, then walk 3 long blocks on Makati Ave to CG hotel. Jeez that's an hour or more on jeeps to save a few dollars, and there is the serious possibility that your LAC girl will think that you are so cheap to ride the jeeps that you won't have the p3000 in your pocket that you promised to pay her, and she will jump out of the jeep at the first stop (if she bothers getting into it in the first place). If you can afford a plane ticket and p3000 to hammer her, you can afford the taxi.

Alternately there are short-time hotels in the LAC area (the LAC girls will know where and the cost).

WestCoast1
05-20-23, 16:47
Please You Tube: "Why has it become ok to be a fool in the Philippines".

I know its been a long time for some of us, but let's keep ourselves in some sort of check.I live here. Pretty sure that I don't need YT, and I am in check as my boots are (and have been) on the ground, thru pandemic.

Travel Fox
05-20-23, 20:35
I live here. Pretty sure that I don't need YT, and I am in check as my boots are (and have been) on the ground, thru pandemic.Do you know the real nitty gritty?

LOL.

Anyway I thought his message resonated a bit with this subject matter here.

ManFromHeaven
05-21-23, 02:11
Taxi or Grab Taxi, or Grab car, are your options here. There is no bus that runs from Makati City (City Garden and Burgos St) to Malate City (LA Cafe). Cost at night is about p250 ($5 US Dollars) each way in a taxi. The only cheaper option is taking a jeepney from LAC on del Pilar St to Buendia St, then change jeeps and ride (2 rides) to Makati Avenue, then walk 3 long blocks on Makati Ave to CG hotel. Jeez that's an hour or more on jeeps to save a few dollars, and there is the serious possibility that your LAC girl will think that you are so cheap to ride the jeeps that you won't have the p3000 in your pocket that you promised to pay her, and she will jump out of the jeep at the first stop (if she bothers getting into it in the first place). If you can afford a plane ticket and p3000 to hammer her, you can afford the taxi.

Alternately there are short-time hotels in the LAC area (the LAC girls will know where and the cost).Thanks. Awesome. Will take taxi.

CurtisMack
05-21-23, 03:29
Thank you again gents for all the helpful tips and feedback. I think I'm all set to start booking all my stuff except one last question. Tried to search on the forum but couldn't find any BYOG reports addressing this. How much should I expect will be the rate to BYOG? It seems rates will vary depending on how I meet the girl (SA, DIA, Tinder, etc). My primary method will be SA, but will try DIA and Tinder as well. Some details of the trip. I will be staying two nights at a 5 star resort in Boracay in a very swanky suite (I don't know if that changes the equation but it will be around 700 USD a night) from Friday-Sunday. I am expecting the girl to be with me starting Thursday night at my Manila hotel for an overnight so we can leave for the airport in the morning together to minimize chances of a flake. All costs obviously will be paid for, and I plan to take the girl with me on all the things I do like island hopping, snorkeling, etc. So what should I expect the rate to be for that type of arrangement? Based on my search of the forum SA university girls of high quality, which is what I'm looking for, are quoting 10-15 k for PPM these days, so my estimate is that the BYOG will run me like 40 k? Thank you again for any feedback.

Goferring
05-22-23, 04:00
Thank you again gents for all the helpful tips and feedback. I think I'm all set to start booking all my stuff except one last question. Tried to search on the forum but couldn't find any BYOG reports addressing this. How much should I expect will be the rate to BYOG? It seems rates will vary depending on how I meet the girl (SA, DIA, Tinder, etc). My primary method will be SA, but will try DIA and Tinder as well. Some details of the trip. I will be staying two nights at a 5 star resort in Boracay in a very swanky suite (I don't know if that changes the equation but it will be around 700 USD a night) from Friday-Sunday. I am expecting the girl to be with me starting Thursday night at my Manila hotel for an overnight so we can leave for the airport in the morning together to minimize chances of a flake. All costs obviously will be paid for, and I plan to take the girl with me on all the things I do like island hopping, snorkeling, etc. So what should I expect the rate to be for that type of arrangement? Based on my search of the forum SA university girls of high quality, which is what I'm looking for, are quoting 10-15 k for PPM these days, so my estimate is that the BYOG will run me like 40 k? Thank you again for any feedback.My rates for XLT are very simple. I pay the equivalent of one ST per day, every day. I've never had a girl complain. Several have returned for a second bite of the cherry at the same rate.

Unfortunately, what you see as pampering the girls and showing them a 5 star holiday does not impress them. In fact, they will see the $700 room as proof that they can over charge you for minimal service. She definitely will not be reducing her price in return for scuba lessons, tours etc.

I'd agrue if the girls are really 10 k per meet but if so, then 40 k is about right.

Keep in mind that this is an eye-watering amount in the Philippines and anyone who pays it should also expect requests for bikinis, dresses, lavish meals, spending money, gifts etc. She will be out to get all she can from her rich whale.

Python75
05-22-23, 06:16
Thank you again gents for all the helpful tips and feedback. I think I'm all set to start booking all my stuff except one last question. Tried to search on the forum but couldn't find any BYOG reports addressing this. How much should I expect will be the rate to BYOG? It seems rates will vary depending on how I meet the girl (SA, DIA, Tinder, etc). My primary method will be SA, but will try DIA and Tinder as well. Some details of the trip. I will be staying two nights at a 5 star resort in Boracay in a very swanky suite (I don't know if that changes the equation but it will be around 700 USD a night) from Friday-Sunday. I am expecting the girl to be with me starting Thursday night at my Manila hotel for an overnight so we can leave for the airport in the morning together to minimize chances of a flake. All costs obviously will be paid for, and I plan to take the girl with me on all the things I do like island hopping, snorkeling, etc. So what should I expect the rate to be for that type of arrangement? Based on my search of the forum SA university girls of high quality, which is what I'm looking for, are quoting 10-15 k for PPM these days, so my estimate is that the BYOG will run me like 40 k? Thank you again for any feedback.I think your modus operandi is fraught with rookie mistakes and you are taking a huge gamble which for your sake I hope you pull off. I have never taken a girl on vacation who I have not tried and tested. What happens if she: has a poor attitude, does not put out, breath smells, etc? Probably ruin your vacation.

Goffering is correct when he states: "pampering the girls and showing them a 5-star holiday does not impress them. " Whether you stay in a $700 or $50 a night room is inconsequential.

I have taken girls on vacation to Boracay, Palawan, Bohol etc but these are girls I have met before. They had an all-expenses paid vacation and they were more than happy with this. I certainly did not give them a daily rate and none was expected. They were just delighted to have an excursion from their normal hum drum existence.

Sammon
05-22-23, 12:05
Thank you again gents for all the helpful tips and feedback. I think I'm all set to start booking all my stuff except one last question. Tried to search on the forum but couldn't find any BYOG reports addressing this. How much should I expect will be the rate to BYOG? It seems rates will vary depending on how I meet the girl (SA, DIA, Tinder, etc). My primary method will be SA, but will try DIA and Tinder as well. Some details of the trip. I will be staying two nights at a 5 star resort in Boracay in a very swanky suite (I don't know if that changes the equation but it will be around 700 USD a night) from Friday-Sunday. I am expecting the girl to be with me starting Thursday night at my Manila hotel for an overnight so we can leave for the airport in the morning together to minimize chances of a flake. All costs obviously will be paid for, and I plan to take the girl with me on all the things I do like island hopping, snorkeling, etc. So what should I expect the rate to be for that type of arrangement? Based on my search of the forum SA university girls of high quality, which is what I'm looking for, are quoting 10-15 k for PPM these days, so my estimate is that the BYOG will run me like 40 k? Thank you again for any feedback.$700 a night in Boracay. When did Boracay become Tokyo, Dubai, Singapore or New York.

You are confusing a regular who you want to impress taking her on a nice vacation for anniversary or birthday and such.

We are talking about third world hookers here. Before planning everything meet the girl of your choice and plan to stay couple of days with her. For me when I meet a new girl I do not discuss any plans with her. It will be strictly one night deal. A girl from ormoc came to be with me. Very pretty girl whose picture I posted long time ago. After staying one night with good sex, clean pussy, no smell from mouth or pussy, nice demeanor next morning I proposed to her of going to Bohol and staying at a resort. She agreed. But I had to give her money to buy dresses, swimsuits, sandals, make up items, lingerie etc. We had a great time.

How do you know the girl you are meeting does tick all the required boxes? You are making a big mistake pre planning IMHO.

MohdirFan82
05-22-23, 12:25
If you can spend that kind of money.

I will suggest you better destinations. Korea, Japan.

Girls are way decent and classy. Filipinas are careless about how much you spend on meals, hotel or gift as long as you can pay her decent.

I had BBBFS full girlfriend experience in Korea / Japan when I had deep pockets.


Thank you again gents for all the helpful tips and feedback. I think I'm all set to start booking all my stuff except one last question. Tried to search on the forum but couldn't find any BYOG reports addressing this. How much should I expect will be the rate to BYOG? It seems rates will vary depending on how I meet the girl (SA, DIA, Tinder, etc). My primary method will be SA, but will try DIA and Tinder as well. Some details of the trip. I will be staying two nights at a 5 star resort in Boracay in a very swanky suite (I don't know if that changes the equation but it will be around 700 USD a night) from Friday-Sunday. I am expecting the girl to be with me starting Thursday night at my Manila hotel for an overnight so we can leave for the airport in the morning together to minimize chances of a flake. All costs obviously will be paid for, and I plan to take the girl with me on all the things I do like island hopping, snorkeling, etc. So what should I expect the rate to be for that type of arrangement? Based on my search of the forum SA university girls of high quality, which is what I'm looking for, are quoting 10-15 k for PPM these days, so my estimate is that the BYOG will run me like 40 k? Thank you again for any feedback.

Dg8787
05-22-23, 13:38
Thank you again gents for all the helpful tips and feedback. I think I'm all set to start booking all my stuff except one last question. Tried to search on the forum but couldn't find any BYOG reports addressing this. How much should I expect will be the rate to BYOG? It seems rates will vary depending on how I meet the girl (SA, DIA, Tinder, etc). My primary method will be SA, but will try DIA and Tinder as well. Some details of the trip. I will be staying two nights at a 5 star resort in Boracay in a very swanky suite (I don't know if that changes the equation but it will be around 700 USD a night) from Friday-Sunday. I am expecting the girl to be with me starting Thursday night at my Manila hotel for an overnight so we can leave for the airport in the morning together to minimize chances of a flake. All costs obviously will be paid for, and I plan to take the girl with me on all the things I do like island hopping, snorkeling, etc. So what should I expect the rate to be for that type of arrangement? Based on my search of the forum SA university girls of high quality, which is what I'm looking for, are quoting 10-15 k for PPM these days, so my estimate is that the BYOG will run me like 40 k? Thank you again for any feedback.Girls get into to this to feed their family. Don't expect deductions or offsets for the cost of her expenses. You are spending $700 a night for your hotel and are worried about the cost of the girl? Personally I would get to know a girl first before I would take one on a multi day trip. I have taken a few to Boracay before and had no problems with them. Of course I knew them for a while before. I plan to take another different one on my next trip. My trips average 3-5 days there. 10-15 k a day might get you a girl. Maybe not a university girl that could discreetly get away for a few days. High quality girls might cost you more than 15 k a day.

WildInstincts
05-22-23, 14:08
$700 a night in Boracay. When did Boracay become Tokyo, Dubai, Singapore or New York.
Can't help, I had to lough out loud!

Dg8787
05-22-23, 14:46
Can't help, I had to lough out loud!There is the Shangri-La Hotel that goes for that kind of money.

Personally I would rather go for a $200-300 a night hotel and have 2-3 $100-200 a night girls with me.

But to each their own.

ATexGuy
05-23-23, 20:37
Its just the downside of the hobby. My old cocktail was azithro + doxy + metronidazole. Too bad all those don't work anymore (metro still does work). Its pretty much 100% certainty that I will catch something when in PI. Azithro stopped working around 2015, and doxy stopped somewhere around 2018. And yes I have been disease free in all other countries except PI. I always bring in a doc, get IV and shots towards the end of my trip now. SOP.I am reading through the forum to prepare for an upcoming trip and this chain of posts. I tend to play in places where girls are regularly checked. Is it fair to conclude that these girls in PH do not get checked and just spread shit to anyone that wants to go bare? 100% certainty of catching something is pretty alarming.

MohdirFan82
05-23-23, 21:57
I took total of 4 trips to PH in past 5 years. Out 4 , all 4 times I got either chlamydia or Gonorrhea.

My main action source was LA cafe, Robinson mall or Online FLs mix of students (semi pros).

I only Bareback 1 or 2.

You can get STD from Blow job. Not a single time got anything from Indonesia or Thailand.


I am reading through the forum to prepare for an upcoming trip and this chain of posts. I tend to play in places where girls are regularly checked. Is it fair to conclude that these girls in PH do not get checked and just spread shit to anyone that wants to go bare? 100% certainty of catching something is pretty alarming.

WestCoast1
05-25-23, 11:42
You can get STD from Blow job.MF: You say that like its a bad thing. Is a moment of pleasure worth it?

Sammon
05-25-23, 21:38
I took total of 4 trips to PH in past 5 years. Out 4 , all 4 times I got either chlamydia or Gonorrhea.

My main action source was LA cafe, Robinson mall or Online FLs mix of students (semi pros).

I only Bareback 1 or 2.

You can get STD from Blow job. Not a single time got anything from Indonesia or Thailand.Bare backing is normal in Philippines as everyone knows. None of the girls asked me to use condoms. If they are doing with me it is guaranteed they are doing with everyone.

Catching STD depends on many factors. Just because you are not using protection with an infected girl does not mean you will catch it. Chances are there. I generally avoid all smelly pussy. I think they are definitely infected with something I do not want to catch. I very rarely do DATY. It is dangerous if the girl is infected. I get tested after every trip. I do take antibiotics immediately if I feel infected. I never caught anything. My tests came clean all the time. I guess I am lucky.

Thailand and Indonesia girls insist on condoms most of the time. In fact I lost a pretty girl in Indonesia because she insisted on condom sex. I do not like condom sex anymore. As I get older I have problem keeping erected if condom is used. Only for anal sex I use condom.

MoonShot
05-25-23, 22:10
Bare backing is normal in Philippines as everyone knows. None of the girls asked me to use condoms. If they are doing with me it is guaranteed they are doing with everyone.

Catching STD depends on many factors. Just because you are not using protection with an infected girl does not mean you will catch it. Chances are there. I generally avoid all smelly pussy. I think they are definitely infected with something I do not want to catch. I very rarely do DATY. It is dangerous if the girl is infected. I get tested after every trip. I do take antibiotics immediately if I feel infected. I never caught anything. My tests came clean all the time. I guess I am lucky.

Thailand and Indonesia girls insist on condoms most of the time. In fact I lost a pretty girl in Indonesia because she insisted on condom sex. I do not like condom sex anymore. As I get older I have problem keeping erected if condom is used. Only for anal sex I use condom.I bareback all the time in the PI. Catching an STD in the PI is a matter of when, not if. In the past seven years, I have caught an STD twice and I consider that lucky. I had a friend go bareback for the first time in Angeles City and he caught an STD in the first week. One issue that guys who catch an STD usually don't know right now and they keep on having sex for a while spreading it to others who then go on to have sex with other guys spreading it to them, who get it and then spread to other girls that they see, and on and on it goes. So if one person has an STD, it can spread quickly like a wild fire in the forest.

If you bareback like me, you have to aware of the risks and willing to catch something like time to time and hope that it is not one of the sexual diseases that are not curable, like herpes or HIV. It is just part of the bareback game. If you think that somehow you will not catch something eventually, you are fooling yourself.