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Black Page
11-28-10, 17:22
As usual, I write my field report many days after travelling. Sorry folks, but better later than never. I have been in Singapore in mid November for 2 days, after KL (see my FR in the KL forum 1097538 )

My original plan was to stay here only 1 day and then move quickly to Batam. However, I changed my mind after knowing that 17 Nov is one of the main holy holidays for Muslims and that there was high probability to find most joints closed there on the night of 17.

Contrary to my previous visits to Singapore, I did not go playing in Geylang. Let me point to my previous FR in Singapore:
1041693
It features many information which is still valid.
Not going to Geylang was not planned. It just happened like that. I was eager of Philipinas and thus I headed straight to OT.

FIRST NIGHT

First negative surprise: one of the two Pinay bars Blue Banana and Peyton Place (OT basement) is closed!! (sorry, I dont remember the name among the two).
In the other, usual Pinays feast (0am), but I did not see the special one. Thus, after a beer and chit chat with girls I moved away for further exploration to Ipanema.

At Ipanema, usual crowd of Viets and Thai. I am not interested to those plastic beauties who
ask big money and then are like dead dolls in the bed, and thus I move around the bar.
I spot a little shy girl who sits sleeping. Not very beautiful, but very slim and petite. That looks interesting. I wake her up. She does not speak English. Only smile and say "I want to take care of you?". I think this is one of the few sentences that someone instructed her to say.
Also asking how much she wanted was difficult, because of language barrier and loud music. Finally, she understands and she repeats me 30. :confused:
30 is too low to be real, so I write "30$" on my mobile and I show it to her. She says yes.:eek:

Unfortunately, at this time she sees her friend and she calls her to help on English.
The friend is much more experienced on the place. She tells me that my girl is totally new, first time to OT. She also tells me and HER that the price is 300$. I dont mention the 30, because I dont want to be considered a cheater.

However, I want to leave and I say that other girls are satified with 100. Finally, we agree on 150. It's 2am and she cannot expect many more opportunities.

I love first-timers and shy ones, but this time it was not a wise choice. She is about 25, but really not used to this. In my room, after some fondling and playing in bed, she starts to cry and she wants to leave! :confused:
I am excited by new ones, but not to this level. I send her out and I accompany her to take the taxi.
The night is over and even Geylang has nothing to offer at 5am!
I go to eat DimSum at Sims 126 (see my previous report 1041693 ).

SECOND NIGHT

At Blue Banana (or Peyton Place??) today there are many more Pinays than the night before. Also Philipino guys, dancing with girls. Customers?? friends?? I dont know.

I spot a girl I like very much, because she looks less professional than others. She is in a large group, headed by a fat big man speaking American English: "do you like my girls? these are all my girls!" They are dancing and having lots of fun. I am invited to sit with them.

They finally leave and I stay with the girl I liked. They were girls from a BMD bar in Lucky Plaza, out for partying with boss after their bar closed at 1am.
The girl is NOT the typical shark we easily meet in those places. She is a good girl, she does not want to drink beer, she does not insist to go with me to the hotel. She is a lovely girl!

I take her to TCC for a cup of tea (yes). Her work in Singapore is to make people buy drinks in her bar and go with them to the hotel for the standard fee 150. She came to Singapore for that, because in strong need of money.
She is in SIngapore since 2 weeks or so and she had only 2 customers since then.
(this is what I was told).

Anyway, at 2am she agrees to come to my hotel for 100, but she must be back before 6am because the "auntie" would be angry if she does not find her in the room sleeping before then.

At 6am she takes a taxi and I go to 126 Sims for refuelling.

(next episode: Batam)

Kirch
11-28-10, 18:31
Will be in Singapore from tomorrow until Dec 4. Have to do 4 boring meetings and don't know what to do for the rest of the time. Anyone there who wants to join me? By the way, I really checked this board for what to do in Singapore but I'm more into nice clubs with nice girls. But not the really expensive ones. Please can anybody help me where to go?

Amex Card
11-28-10, 20:51
Just came home from Singapore and this is my report.

I visited OT daytime and went around the massage parlours. Found a very nice girl at the 3rd floor left of the elevators. Took an hour massage 65 sd, which was decent and during the whole massage she did everything she could to tease me. Finally she started to oil and massage my "greg" and suggested the options.

First call was 300 sd for a cocktail incl all and after some negotiation she agreed on 150 sd. look 9/10 service 10/10. Small 40 kg chineese girl.

Second I went for a massage parlour on the second floor. Good looking girl massage 1 hour 65 sd very good massage. Also made the oil teasing on my greg and then the same bargaining as the first girl started at 300 sd but settled at 150 sd. It seems to be the going rate since they refuse to go under it. Look 8/10 service 8/10.

Third time it was a massage parlour on the 3rd floor next to the toilets, half Malaysian half Singapourian/chineese. 30 mins foot massage 20 sd. Got the offer starting at 200sd but she settled at 150 sd. Very, very good massage and a very hot well toned dark skinned body. Her name was Michelle and she gave me her number if I would want her to visit my hotel later. Look 9/10 service 9/10.

Visited OT once at nighttime and went thru a lot of the bars/clubs. Started at the 4th floor and Crayze horse. 80% LBīs asked a waitress is it only was LBīs there and she answered a bit offended that they were all girls, then I went.

Tried the one on the right side of CH it said russian girls/dancers or something. I was pretty intoxicated since it was pretty late, around 4 am. Half full not many girls and the russian dancers myst have been the leftovers from the gulags.

Down one stair to the FHM-club, almost empty except for some girls. Maybe 20 girls and 5 costumers. The rating of the girls was no one over 6/10 so I went for Ipanema.

The Ipanema lives up to itīs reputation very crowded and a lot of great girls. Stayed for 45 mins wasnīt in the mood for a pick-up but there was a lot of targets.

Before I even got out of my taxi at OT there were girls standing around in the street trying to make contact. Even inside the building at the stairs there was many offers made. OT is for sure a mongers heaven if you are into asian girls.

I asked a cabdriver about geylang but he said it was dead and all the girls once there was at OT now.

The day after I was out shopping with a female friend in chinatown and we decided to take a massage in which looked to be a serious spa/massage parlour. We took 1 hour massage 48 sd and even though it only was a thin cover between us my massage girl started to do the tease and offered me a happy ending for 50 sd. There was no way she would have known if the woman beside me was my gf/wife or not.

Conclusion, if you get butt naked for a massage in asia HE is offered in 90% of the occasions. Since I have been travelling a lot in asia and it have always worked for me ;)

Take care guys!

Econo Tech
11-29-10, 07:10
FIRST NIGHT

First negative surprise: one of the two Pinay bars Blue Banana and Peyton Place (OT basement) is closed! (sorry, I don't remember the name among the two).Peyton Place is closed, Blue is still rocking blue.


Also asking how much she wanted was difficult, because of language barrier and loud music. Finally, she understands and she repeats me 30.: confused:

30 is too low to be real, so I write "30$" on my mobile and I show it to her. She says yes.Common. As most viet's Cambodians don't know to read roman numerals,. Or do they use a different numbering systems?

I had girls who say 1-5. Which most assume as 15. Only later it turn out to be 150


I spot a girl I like very much, because she looks less professional than others. She is in a large group, headed by a fat big man speaking American English: "do you like my girls? These are all my girls! " They are dancing and having lots of fun. I am invited to sit with them.Pretty much the Modus operandi at BmD bars

This large guy. Was he Chinese or american / american? Haha.

Cheers

Rangerz99
11-29-10, 07:47
Hi Mate,

Thanks for the nice update. I am arrving in Sg tonight, needed to chk on your post below on Michelle, Assuming you got FS for $150, was she open to BBBJ and what else?.

I am going to look her up sometime tmrw, shud I refer you so the negotiation is quick and easy. Also wud be great if you can PM me her number. Much appreciate it.

I agree, most MPs massage in Sg offer HE.

Cheers!


Just came home from Singapore and this is my report.

I visited OT daytime and went around the massage parlours. Found a very nice girl at the 3rd floor left of the elevators. Took an hour massage 65 sd, which was decent and during the whole massage she did everything she could to tease me. Finally she started to oil and massage my "greg" and suggested the options.

First call was 300 sd for a cocktail incl all and after some negotiation she agreed on 150 sd. look 9/10 service 10/10. Small 40 kg chineese girl.

Second I went for a massage parlour on the second floor. Good looking girl massage 1 hour 65 sd very good massage. Also made the oil teasing on my greg and then the same bargaining as the first girl started at 300 sd but settled at 150 sd. It seems to be the going rate since they refuse to go under it. Look 8/10 service 8/10.

Third time it was a massage parlour on the 3rd floor next to the toilets, half Malaysian half Singapourian/chineese. 30 mins foot massage 20 sd. Got the offer starting at 200sd but she settled at 150 sd. Very, very good massage and a very hot well toned dark skinned body. Her name was Michelle and she gave me her number if I would want her to visit my hotel later. Look 9/10 service 9/10.

Visited OT once at nighttime and went thru a lot of the bars/clubs. Started at the 4th floor and Crayze horse. 80% LBīs asked a waitress is it only was LBīs there and she answered a bit offended that they were all girls, then I went.

Tried the one on the right side of CH it said russian girls/dancers or something. I was pretty intoxicated since it was pretty late, around 4 am. Half full not many girls and the russian dancers myst have been the leftovers from the gulags.

Down one stair to the FHM-club, almost empty except for some girls. Maybe 20 girls and 5 costumers. The rating of the girls was no one over 6/10 so I went for Ipanema.

The Ipanema lives up to itīs reputation very crowded and a lot of great girls. Stayed for 45 mins wasnīt in the mood for a pick-up but there was a lot of targets.

Before I even got out of my taxi at OT there were girls standing around in the street trying to make contact. Even inside the building at the stairs there was many offers made. OT is for sure a mongers heaven if you are into asian girls.

I asked a cabdriver about geylang but he said it was dead and all the girls once there was at OT now.

The day after I was out shopping with a female friend in chinatown and we decided to take a massage in which looked to be a serious spa/massage parlour. We took 1 hour massage 48 sd and even though it only was a thin cover between us my massage girl started to do the tease and offered me a happy ending for 50 sd. There was no way she would have known if the woman beside me was my gf/wife or not.

Conclusion, if you get butt naked for a massage in asia HE is offered in 90% of the occasions. Since I have been travelling a lot in asia and it have always worked for me ;)

Take care guys!

Raverboy
11-29-10, 08:39
...I asked a cabdriver about geylang but he said it was dead and all the girls once there was at OT now...

Cab driver is bullsh*tting you.

BionicMan
11-29-10, 11:42
Just came home from Singapore and this is my report.

Visited OT once at nighttime and went thru a lot of the bars/clubs. Started at the 4th floor and Crayze horse. 80% LBīs asked a waitress is it only was LBīs there and she answered a bit offended that they were all girls, then I went......
Take care guys!The waitress was a little bit daring to say so.
The 20% you mention is probably post-op and they proudly and easily do show that, often by not wearing any underpants :)
Indeed there might be some true real bio-female, but it is like picking a needle in a haystack.

Black Page
11-29-10, 18:30
Pretty much the Modus operandi at BmD bars
This large guy. Was he Chinese or american / american? Haha.

As I said, they were the girls working in one of the BmD bar at LP. I dont remember its name.
She told me that the boss, after 1am and having closed the bar, told the girls "let's go partying together!". And off they went. They were having lots of fun, actually.
Sure, never forget business, so the boss was happy to see me looking at one of his girls.
He looked not Chinese, not White-American, not Pinoy. I guess he may be some mix. He married a Pinay and found this way to make money.

RBorgia
11-30-10, 16:48
Hi Guys,

I am in Singapore for the weekend for some meetings and interested to see what's on offer. Anyone got any contacts for any good and reasonably priced freelancers? If so, please PM me.

Cheers

Lakeside
12-09-10, 14:44
The filipina bar Peyton Place has reopened yesterday. They had an opening ceremony and there were about 15 pretty BMD Filipinas on duty.

Ipanema is packed with Vietnamese girls asking a ridiculous starting price of 400 SGD for LT.

Some stay very firm on 300 SGD for LT and as it looks like some guys just like to be the big spenders!

But finally managed to get the price down to a decent 200 SGD plus tip in case of good performance!

Top Five on the top floor has about 20 aged Russian dancers. So a no go for my taste. But your mileage may vary.

Sleepy14
12-10-10, 23:27
Ipanema is packed with Vietnamese girls asking a ridiculous starting price of 400 SGD for LT.

Some stay very firm on 300 SGD for LT and as it looks like some guys just like to be the big spenders!

I was in Singapore for 6 days a couple of weeks ago staying at Traders. OT in general seems to be packed with Viets. I was a bit wary at first given the reports here of their hard commercial attitude, however I ended up taking a different one each night. Prices varied from about SGD 80 for ST through to SGD 150 for LT. To achieve this I would chat and negotiate with them taking my time and waving off the dreamers. On average I would find them outside the bars and have to wave off 8 or so before I could find a deal. Performance varied from average to very good.

Econo Tech
12-11-10, 06:54
The filipina bar Peyton Place has reopened yesterday. They had an opening ceremony and there were about 15 pretty BMD Filipinas on duty.

Ipanema is packed with Vietnamese girls asking a ridiculous starting price of 400 SGD for LT.

Some stay very firm on 300 SGD for LT and as it looks like some guys just like to be the big spenders!

But finally managed to get the price down to a decent 200 SGD plus tip in case of good performance!

Top Five on the top floor has about 20 aged Russian dancers. So a no go for my taste. But your mileage may vary. Well, is it still called Peyton? Peyton was my favourite place for hunting pinas, as long as I can weed out the BMD girls. Nah. BMDs only are cock-teasers. Note to self: Check out PP.

As for pricing generally, the price start high and as the night progresses, it drops.

Geneva Guy
12-11-10, 13:24
I was in Singapore for 6 days a couple of weeks ago staying at Traders. OT in general seems to be packed with Viets. I was a bit wary at first given the reports here of their hard commercial attitude, however I ended up taking a different one each night. Prices varied from about SGD 80 for ST through to SGD 150 for LT. To achieve this I would chat and negotiate with them taking my time and waving off the dreamers. On average I would find them outside the bars and have to wave off 8 or so before I could find a deal. Performance varied from average to very good.Hi Guys.

I just got back from SG. And while I usually don't go for Viets. Well, on a Friday nite. 2AM, got a dark Viet girl (love them dark) for $150 SGD LT. And kept her coming back for the whole week at that price. In fact, she'd just cab it over to my place (apartment I use) , regular clothes (not the OT dress style and thus, no walk of shame in the AM with the neighbors). She was not commercial at all and in fact. Admitted that coming to SG was a mistake. She had been "sold a bill of goods". So much the better for me. She was fun, no holds barred and even cleaned up the place and did some laundry also, hehehe. She had dark skin, brown nipples and a beautiful pussy, just trimmed some with hair on top of it. Perfect for licking and fucking. She did it ALL!

She went back to Hanoi (saw her plane ticket and visa expiration). But. I guess I was wrong, the Viets can be fun and a bargain. If you look and ask.

Just my $.02 (USD) , hehehehe.

GG

Ian Oxon
12-14-10, 17:14
The waitress was a little bit daring to say so.

The 20% you mention is probably post-op and they proudly and easily do show that, often by not wearing any underpants.

Indeed there might be some true real bio-female, but it is like picking a needle in a haystack. Actually 20% maybe right. I have been there and spent a fun night chatting and drinking with a couple of Indonesian girls who then hooked me up with a Burmese. Had a nice time. Some of tHe ladyboys can also be fun to talk to if you just want to have a drink and a laugh.

RBorgia
12-14-10, 18:24
I thought I'll try one of these websites that pop up top in google for a tantric massage in Singapore. Called up the hotline this morning and they sent over an Indian girl to my hotel in about half an hour. North Indian look. Gave me an excellent oily massage with a body to body massage as well finishing off with a 'tantric HJ'. Damage 200, which is on the higher end cost wise but the experience was worth it. Girl had 9/10 looks and body and service was excellent.

PM me if you want the contacts.

Redcloth
12-16-10, 14:51
Just got back Singapore last week and head to OT after a 3 year absence.

Inpenema doesn't (thankfully) seemed to have changed much and was full with decent numbers of girls, but I was very surprised at what I found at the Filipino bars. Most of them were very empty with very few customers. I remember them as been comparable freelancer bars but this seems to have changed. Every bar I walked into the girls were onto me like a rash and pushing for me to buy them drinks. I obliged once with a couple nice honeys, and my jaw dropped when they hanged the expense and walk back with 6 tequlia at about $80. I wanted to see what the go was and was quoted $300sin for LT, yet they didn't seem to interested in it. It seemed the girls were more interested in pushing the drinks rather than going with customers, and I got the impression they were working / freelance empoyees of the bar. I found it to be the same at Peyton Place and the 5 or 6 other Filipino bars I walked into.

Has any one else found the same thing? Won't waste me time with a second look on the way home. Will head straight to Impenema. (Top 5 had the CIS? Russian dancers but zero on the freelance count). Interested to hear what other have found? Was looking forward to a little flipper but thing have changed.

Bigmoose.

(PS Contact details of recomendations are welcome)

Chaos Theory
12-17-10, 04:25
i think the majority of the girls in pp are now bmd girls only and actually the management don't let them go out. the bar is owned by the same company as own (ed) homeground, speedzone and smooth in paramount shooping centre. in fact many of the girls in pp work in either smooth or speedzone in the early part of the night and then come to ot at about midnight. they then stay at pp till closing and go home to the company owned accommodation where they have to check in. your only chance of a hook up with these girls is if you arrange to meet them in the afternoon before they go to work.

i am not sure if there are any fl's left in pp but there certainly were in blue banana last time i was there.

i think the filipina bmd bars in paramount are under preseeure from the police. a lot of raids so the bar owners are gradually shifting their business to ot. pp's owners also run moonshine in the back tower of ot and i am sure some of the other bmd bars as well.

ct

Econo Tech
12-17-10, 06:47
It seemed the girls were more interested in pushing the drinks rather than going with customers, and I got the impression they were working / freelance empoyees of the bar. I found it to be the same at Peyton Place and the 5 or 6 other Filipino bars I walked into.This is not a new symptom. It has been in Tanjong pagar and Paramount, the only difference being that in those place you could work your way to a BJ / HJ if you are in the right corner.

Well, Peyton got taken over by one of such ideators, and so has Moon Shine. So there you go. And it will be a matter of time that the LD working girls will start to disappear. As it happens in TP and PM. During months of down season, the bars go out of business. And the women evoproate.

The other bars still have regular old fashioned hookers.

Moonshine is known for more aggressive LD girls and so is Peyton. I would keep a 100 feet distance between myself and the two places. And refusing to buy a drink normally evokes nasty comments like. As if you are the cause of her miserable life etc. Etc. By not buying LD and also you are stingy asshole.

Well, no comments. I still got Blue Banana, and a few more joints that do the old fashioned stuff.

Redcloth
12-18-10, 05:46
And refusing to buy a drink normally evokes nasty comments like. As if you are the cause of her miserable life etc. Etc. By not buying LD and also you are stingy asshole.ET & CT thanks for comments, complete 100% correct information, especially the bit about nasty looks and comments. Definitely a change for the worse in these places. All we can do is take our money elsewhere and smile when they go broke.

I'll give Ipenema and Blue Banana more of a look in a couple days time. Hell. I may even buy one drink for myself only in Peyton Place just to stir them up.

Daddy San
12-19-10, 14:53
Hi guys,

I'll be in SIN in the first half of February en route from Bali to BKK.

I plan to visit Batam for one or two days / nights and of course OT while in SIN.

Last year I met a charming but rather FAT Ass Sri Lankan WG in front of OT but even her genuine sweetness and charm could not make up for her unattractive figure.

Ever since I have fancied to sample a prettier Indian lady.

My question is:

Is there a place in SIN where Indian / Sri Lankan WGs / FLs can be found?

Is there perhaps a RLD in Little India?

(I hate the Gelang scene!)

Thanks for your info.

DS

Econo Tech
12-20-10, 06:35
Is there a place in SIN where Indian / Sri Lankan WGs / FLs can be found?

Answer. No, no, and nooooooooooooooo. Unless you want to check out the streetwalkers in Lor 18. 20 near Geylang Road area.


Is there perhaps a RLD in Little India?

(I hate the Gelang scene!) Do a read up on Desker road. But that is even low-cheap-lcc class. Compared to geylang. Going for 25 to 35 for a trick. No sir. Not my cup of tea. But worth a visit to sight see.

Tanglin
12-20-10, 07:31
Hi guys,

My question is:

Is there a place in SIN where Indian / Sri Lankan WGs / FLs can be found?

Is there perhaps a RLD in Little India?

(I hate the Gelang scene!)

Thanks for your info.

DSDesker Road

Mc Don
12-23-10, 17:43
Desker RoadCan someone please give us more info on Desker Road. I can't find anything on it. I think few of us crave indian here. These days Singapore is a stopover for me on the way to SEA and I would prefer spending time with other girls I guess. How far is it from the airport? Is there day time action? Is it like geylang with brothels or are we talking about SW only? Short time only or can I get LT? Is there any other area, place I should check out? Is there anything upmarket, I don't mind spending for quality.

Danibbler
12-23-10, 21:58
Desker Road. Is a downscale version of Petaiin Road. Which is a series of houses with rooms rented out to SPs. I don't know that it has Indian women but I would say yes. It's not too far from the airport, just a bit more traffic than going to Geylang. If it's the houses then there is day time action. I don't think it is SWs.

It is VERY downmarket and I would not go there. The only upscale place in SG is Geylang.


Can someone please give us more info on Desker Road. I can't find anything on it. I think few of us crave indian here. These days Singapore is a stopover for me on the way to SEA and I would prefer spending time with other girls I guess. How far is it from the airport? Is there day time action? Is it like geylang with brothels or are we talking about SW only? Short time only or can I get LT? Is there any other area, place I should check out? Is there anything upmarket, I don't mind spending for quality.

Econo Tech
12-24-10, 04:06
Can someone please give us more info on Desker Road. I can't find anything on it. I think few of us crave indian here. These days Singapore is a stopover for me on the way to SEA and I would prefer spending time with other girls I guess. How far is it from the airport? Is there day time action? Is it like geylang with brothels or are we talking about SW only? Short time only or can I get LT? Is there any other area, place I should check out? Is there anything upmarket, I don't mind spending for quality.Found this on a site. BTW, Desker road is the lowest end of the market. 20 and 30 $ a pop, and you got to be pretty crazy to step into.

Some of Singapore's DRA's are pretty seamy. Desker Road, in the words of one source, is "the classic low-end red light district."

But it is within easy walking distance of the City Hall MRT station. The "Desker Report" goes on the describe the area. The DRA is in ". The back alley between Desker Road and Rowell Road. Here you will find a teeming mass of humanity milling along the alley, looking in at all the doorways.

Inside the doorways you will see 1 to 6 women sitting around looking bored and contemptuous in a bare room with cane chairs.

Posters on the wall advise the use of condoms." Desker Road and the nearby Flanders Square DRA's can be reached by foot from the Little India section of Singapore.

And if you don't know where you are or where you're going, with little effort you can accidently find yourself in the wrong alley. Appalled to find that this part of the city even exists and wondering how to get back to the tailors and trinket shops of Little India.

http://www.streetdirectory.com/asia_travel/travel/travel_id_18080/travel_site_1/?x=103.85522010022851&y=1.3100502732042143&l=13

Between Rowell Road and Desker road, there is a bylane, and you can't miss it. At either end, there will be an old man selling XXX vcds and vibrators (well, don't get caught with the vcds as each one can get you a fine of 1, 000 $ at the airport. Cops.)

Have fun. Explore the dark side, if you want.

Tanglin
12-24-10, 08:06
Can someone please give us more info on Desker Road. I can't find anything on it. I think few of us crave indian here. These days Singapore is a stopover for me on the way to SEA and I would prefer spending time with other girls I guess. How far is it from the airport? Is there day time action? Is it like geylang with brothels or are we talking about SW only? Short time only or can I get LT? Is there any other area, place I should check out? Is there anything upmarket, I don't mind spending for quality.Desker Road and nearby Flander's Square (actually Kitchener Road) and about as downmarket as you can get, but there's always something available (you just may not want it). Here's a map of the area:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Desker+Road+Singapore&sll=40. 713956-94. 570312&sspn=35. 930711, 79. 013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Desker+Road, +Singapore&z=16.

If you're looking for something much more upmarket, you're probably better off trying to work with one of the escort services. I don't have any experience with those, so I can't really recommend any of them.

Mc Don
12-24-10, 16:45
Desker Road and nearby Flander's Square (actually Kitchener Road) and about as downmarket as you can get, but there's always something available (you just may not want it). Here's a map of the area:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Desker

+Road+Singapore&sll=40. 713956-94. 570312&sspn=35. 930711, 79. 013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Desker+Road, +Singapore&z=16.

If you're looking for something much more upmarket, you're probably better off trying to work with one of the escort services. I don't have any experience with those, so I can't really recommend any of them. So what you are saying is there is no point going there, I will not find any nice indian pros. Does anyone know where I can find indian pros, they could not just disapere in few months. .

Mont Blanc
12-24-10, 19:01
Booked this girl from Stockings and whatever. Yellow pages. I have a thing for stockings. Met the girl at 7/11 and brought her back to the room.

But she didn't wear stockings and when asked about it, she took out panties, not as erotic but could do with.

Malay mid twenties, tall and slim, small boobs.

She was very attentionate, GFE. Started with nice massage then head and action, all covered. Overall a very pleasant experience and highly recommend the girl.

Daddy San
12-25-10, 14:37
Thanks for the info, but I think Desker Road is not for me.

Still, I would like to sample a nice indian FL.

Any suggestions where to look?

DS

Raverboy
12-25-10, 19:40
Found this on a site. BTW, Desker road is the lowest end of the market. 20 and 30 $ a pop, and you got to be pretty crazy to step into.

Some of Singapore's DRA's are pretty seamy. Desker Road, in the words of one source, is "the classic low-end red light district."

But it is within easy walking distance of the City Hall MRT station. Desker Road is NOT within 'easy walking distance' of City Hall MRT Station. It is however, within walking distance of Farrer Park MRT Station.

Canyon
01-01-11, 02:06
I plan to spend four nights in Singapore in a few months, staying in an upscale hotel. I would liike to invite a good-looking girl to my room for two hours of pleasure. I would like GFE including a shower, massage, BBBJ and FS. She has to have a nice body and a pretty face. If things go well, I would like to arrange another time with her for all night. I have two questions. Where is the best place to find someone like that? How much should I expect to pay?

After reading the forum, it appeats that the best place to go is Orchard Towers, possibly Ipanema. I would appreciate any suggestions including individual names and contact info. PM me if you wish.

I would appreciate any recommendations.

Canyon

BionicMan
01-01-11, 03:58
I plan to spend four nights in Singapore in a few months, staying in an upscale hotel. I would liike to invite a good-looking girl to my room for two hours of pleasure. I would like GFE including a shower, massage, BBBJ and FS. She has to have a nice body and a pretty face. If things go well, I would like to arrange another time with her for all night. I have two questions. Where is the best place to find someone like that? How much should I expect to pay?

After reading the forum, it appeats that the best place to go is Orchard Towers, possibly Ipanema. I would appreciate any suggestions including individual names and contact info. PM me if you wish.

I would appreciate any recommendations.

CanyonUpscale hotel nearby OT is Hyatt.

Nobody will take care who you bring in the room.

Below Hyatt, sidewalk entrance, there's Brix, Upscale club with live band where you will find a nice variety of WG's, all FL's.

Thai, prc, black, mongolian, CSI, viets, etc.

They can be' 250$ or above for ST.

Be' over clear about LT (same at OT) as the hotel too close to' both OT and Brix not to' be tempting for the girls to dress and leave after your pop and the shower.

Some girls will commute between OT and Brix. At Brix they can get more money with the same pussy as customers there less sophisticated mongerers, not aware of market prices and comparing with homeland prices, usually far above Singapore's (not the cheapest in Asia, BTW).

You

Ebauche
01-01-11, 04:54
OT / Ipanema is a good start for Viets and the occasional Pinay. Brix has broader selection, and significantly higher prices. If you take a girl from anywhere, best to be clear on a reasonable ST price and that you will ONLY PAY AFTER. Same strategy for long term. If you find someone with whom you click, negotiate longer overnight / multiday.

Suggest you explore Geylang if you can get away. During the day, the Pinays on SGADSONLINE dot com (go into "Other") can be cheap and damned good. However, you won't know for certain what will show up until she knocks on your door or calls you to the lobby. Another good source, with accurate photos are the stable at the LAKSABOY dot org forums. Pretty much incall only.

God how I miss SIN.


I plan to spend four nights in Singapore in a few months, staying in an upscale hotel. I would liike to invite a good-looking girl to my room for two hours of pleasure. I would like GFE including a shower, massage, BBBJ and FS. She has to have a nice body and a pretty face. If things go well, I would like to arrange another time with her for all night. I have two questions. Where is the best place to find someone like that? How much should I expect to pay?

After reading the forum, it appeats that the best place to go is Orchard Towers, possibly Ipanema. I would appreciate any suggestions including individual names and contact info. PM me if you wish.

I would appreciate any recommendations.

Canyon

Canyon
01-02-11, 08:11
Bionicman and Ebauche,

Thank you very much for the suggestions. They were very helpful.

Canyon

BionicMan
01-02-11, 10:36
Bionicman and Ebauche,

Thank you very much for the suggestions. They were very helpful.

CanyonHotel wise let me suggest also Park Royal (on Scotts too) just opposite Hyatt. Much cheaper and still 4 *

Just a bit smaller rooms. Free wi-fi, BTW that Hyatt has only for upper standard of rooms (executive club)

Going to OT from there is even easier as you don't have to cross Scott Road as you have to do from Hyatt. A nearby fly over walking bridge links the two hotel sidewalks (if you want to go to Brix from royal park)

Escalators in SIN stops at around midnight and it is a pain in the ass to climb them when nit working.

The Marriott (corner Orchard / Scottsdale, but far more expensive than Hyatt) has a coffee shop terrace serving food till 3am: good spot to observe FL walking to Brix or sometime stationing around (less than before last time I was there, LE persuasion?) not a bad place to spot talents.

Be aware that you might bump into some LB's, being often stunners it might be attempting (same as at Crazy Horse bar in 3rd F at OT, where they can stay and represent the "work force" in there) They are never allowed in other bars so they have to be around to catch business.

There is another restaurant serving food 24hrs on the way from Scott / orchard junction to OT: decent to kill hunger, but not gourmet. On the same portion of walk WG station, walk, propose, as they go or come from OT.

Please report back to add more feedback to the cause.

Fully GFE, don't worry about it.

I have been at the Hilton, opposite OT, but room standards are not at the level of prices they charge.

Canyon
01-03-11, 04:12
Thank you, Bionicman, for the additional information. I won't be there until March or April, but I'll report back then. How about the Shangri-La? I can get discounted rates there because of connections and I hear it's a good hotel. How far is it from Orchard Towers and Brix?

Canyon

Dreams
01-03-11, 05:24
I will have a one day lay over in SIN. Landing around 5 am and taking off at 11 pm. Free all day except for a business lunch between, say. 12 to 4 pm.

My objective is to keep happy and busy both in the morning and the pm.

I am quite familiar about SIN, so no problem with transport, localisation etc. But wil still need advice from Sin specialists to make the most of my short visit.

Let me ask if the following makes sense:

Arrive at Sin in the early morning. Leave any luggage at the baggage locker. Take the MRT to Geylang (aljumiah) , and go to one of the Hotel 81. Check in, around 6 am, keep the room till 8 pm (Will they make me pay for 2 full nights, or is it negociable?).

Get some sleep till 10-11am.

Look for some action around. I know that all legal houses are closed, at least till 1 pm, if not 4 pm. But I need action in the morning, so that I can recover before further action in the afternoon.

Some years back, that is before the clampdown in Geylang, I found some Chinese chicks lurking around in the morning. Is this still the case? Do I have a chance to find something in the morning? If not, where should I go? I guess another otpion would be to organise delivery in advance, but I am not too keen on this, since you don't know whay you will get.

Then on to my business lunch.

After 4, return to Geylang and action in one of the legal houses. Can anyone point to any specific one? I am interested in the Chinese specialising in the red rope technique, as well as any with the best Thai girls. If anyone has had recent good experience with any specific girl, thanks fop sharing.

I mention Geylang, because I don't know of any other places where you can find action at this time of the day (on a Friday). I guess all the bars only come to life after 5 pm, or even later.

Last, in between action, I wouild like to indulge in a good pampering massage. Wheher it includes HJ / BJ / FS at the end or not, is not so important since I will have had at least 2 pops earlier in the day. So, a clean establishment, with pretty masseuses knowing their trade would be nice. I heard about one such establishment in Geylang, but can't find it back. Or any elsewhere? Went once to one in OT, but that was a rip-off.

So, in short, my questions are:

1) Can one walk in any Hotel 81 in Geylang, without prior booking, at 6 am and get a room at reasonable price for the day?

2) Where to find action, anywhere in SIN, around 10 am?

3) Any advice on which Geylang house, Chinese and / or Thai, to go to, and any specific girl? (I like them busty and friendly.)

4) Any relatively upscale massage parlour for a good massge with pretty girls anywhere in town.

Thanks in advance!

BionicMan
01-03-11, 08:04
I will have a one day lay over in SIN. Landing around 5 am and taking off at 11 pm. Free all day except for a business lunch between, say. 12 to 4 pm.

4) Any relatively upscale massage parlour for a good massge with pretty girls anywhere in town.

Thanks in advance! For point 4 try Holiday Inn Park nearby Orchard Road. The massage aprlour there seems quite good. RTFF for more references about it

Trimix
01-03-11, 11:44
Tanglin and Econo Tech mentioned action on Desker road. I walked yesterday up and down round 6pm but appart some thai massage saloon-want to-be haven`t seen nothing. To what preciesly should I put my attention? Where and what time?

Thanks!

Econo Tech
01-04-11, 07:09
Tanglin and Econo Tech mentioned action on Desker road. I walked yesterday up and down round 6pm but appart some thai massage saloon-want to-be haven`t seen nothing. To what preciesly should I put my attention? Where and what time?

Thanks! The back alley of Desker road, between Rowell Road and Desker, there is sort of a small by-lane.

http://www.streetdirectory.com/asia_travel/travel/travel_id_1/travel_site_18278/?x=103.8550254630351&y=1.3089406841915965&l=13

Between Serangoon Road and Kampong Kapor Road, you see there is a couple of FC (Food Court) and then between the shop houses, there is an open passage way. One end. At the Kampong Kapor Road End, you will see a few old uncles selling DVD / sex toys.

Go. Conquer them all. And just don't' tell what you did there.

Ian Oxon
01-04-11, 17:50
Thank you, Bionicman, for the additional information. I won't be there until March or April, but I'll report back then. How about the Shangri-La? I can get discounted rates there because of connections and I hear it's a good hotel. How far is it from Orchard Towers and Brix?

CanyonIt's about a 10-15 minute walk downhill from the shangrila to OT and then another 10 mins to Brix. Shangrila is girl friendly

Tanglin
01-05-11, 03:11
The back alley of Desker road, between Rowell Road and Desker, there is sort of a small by-lane.

http://www.streetdirectory.com/asia_travel/travel/travel_id_1/travel_site_18278/?x=103.8550254630351&y=1.3089406841915965&l=13

Between Serangoon Road and Kampong Kapor Road, you see there is a couple of FC (Food Court) and then between the shop houses, there is an open passage way. One end. At the Kampong Kapor Road End, you will see a few old uncles selling DVD / sex toys.

Go. Conquer them all. And just don't' tell what you did there. As Econo Tech points out,"Desker Road" is kind of a misnomer. The actual RLD is an alley between Desker Road and Rowell Road that stretches roughly from Serangoon to Jalan Besar. Kampong Kapor is in the middle, and it's a little bit easier "access point" than the food court on the northwest end.

Drnsin
01-06-11, 09:58
Greetings Gents,

Sorry for the late report. I was in SIN for one night in early Dec and only had until now some time to chime in on my visit. Landed in SIN at 7AM on Dec 4 and flew out 9AM on Dec 5.

First, thanks to everyone who replied to my questions before my visit. Now, on to the report.

After RTFF, I was all set to indulge in the sights and smells that SIN has to offer. I went in with the following plan:

(1) Check into a Hotel 81 in Geylang for a few hours in the morning and get some rest and MAYBE find a SW for a session before heading to my hotel in Orchard. I booked a room at Royal Plaza on Scotts which I was told would not be available until afternoon. I initially planned on staying at the Hilton but after some research decided to spend a few extra bucks and stay at Royal Plaza since the hotel got much better reviews. (2) Once I checked in at Royal Plaza, walk around the neighborhood, scope the MP's in OT and maybe partake in a round. (3) Head to Geylang to check out some of the houses that by now would be open. (4) Head over to OT in the early evening to grab a FL. Then later in the night go back to OT for seconds. I never get out so I had to make the most of it! Also, I should let you know, since I very, very rarely monger, I'm quite content with HJ and CBJ. I can see you rolling your eyes. LOL! I was under the assumption that the various experiences would be ranked in the following order (from best to worst) :

(1) FL from OT, (2) Geylang house, (3) Geylang SW, (4) MP at OT. The experiences did not go the way I expected.

When I landed in SIN at 7AM, I called Royal Plaza and was told that my room may be ready by 10AM, maybe earlier. I decided to go straight to RP and cross my fingers. Let me say that SIN airport is one of the easiest airports to get through. Easier than Geneva. And that's saying a lot! It was quick, easy, efficient, and the airport staff were very courteous. Took a cab to RP, checked in my bags, grabbed a snack, and killed some time in their internet lounge with free internet service. Big screen Apple monitors to boot! My room was ready before 10 AM so once in, I unpacked, showered, and went for a stroll. By noon I decided to enter OT to scope the scene. The MP's were open, with ladies waving for my attention. I browsed a little and also wanted to see where all the clubs were that I had been reading about. It was cool to actually walk around the areas I had seen in pictures and youtube vids. I walked into one MP after a super cute spinner girl invited me in to look at the menu. She had that laminated print out broken down by time and price. As I looked it over she then said 100 for everything, no time limit. I told her I would think about it and come back. I walked around some more, stopped at the 7-11 to buy a pack of covers, and went back to my hotel room (only a 3-5 minute walk) , trying to decide whether I should just head to Geylang now. I have to admit that I got a bit too excited thinking about the girl back at the OT MP who was being very affectionate with me. I decided to head back to OT. Went back into the MP, she didn't change the price on me, and into the room we went. I think this place is up one level on the escalator, far left corner. The room did not look very clean. The walls were a bit dirty, there was a mattress on the floor covered with a towel. The towel didn't look very clean, but maybe it was just really old. I thought to myself,"oh man, what have I gotten myself into." I asked her to change the towel and she happily did. I saw her grab a new one from a stack of neatly folded towels on a shelf in the hallway. Once that concern was addressed, we got down to business. This girl was sexy, chirpy, great little body, very attentive, great attitude. Lots of foreplay. BTW, there was no "massage". This was all about getting busy. After lots of mutual rubbing, squeezing, etc. She wrapped the cover on me and proceeded to give a very nice CBJ. Slow, rhythmic, good suction. She then got ready to mount me but I told her I was just interested in the BJ so she continued with that until I popped. I was in there for approx. 45 minutes. Afterwards, I asked whether she was available in the evening for drinks and who knows what. She said that she has to work until 10 PM and she lives far away and that she would need to ask 'someone' whether its ok. She gave me her # and said that I should call later to check in. I thanked her and went along my merry way. I would hold on to her # as a backup. I thought she was awesome and seemed like she would be a lot of fun to hang out and party with. But at this point, I figured there were a ton of these types and I wanted variety.

Went back to my hotel room to shower and take a short nap before heading to Geylang. I will post my Geyland trip in the Geylang section but I'll tell you now that it was a horrible experience! Total strike out, waste of time. Bad luck. I should have been more prepared. The food was really good, though!

Got back from Geylang at around 6PM and wanted to take another short nap before heading to OT for the final chapter. Fell asleep quite fast and woke up after 10! Damn! I initially planned on getting to OT earlier in case the good ones would get snatched up soon. Showered and headed to OT and by that time it was almost 11. Walked into Country Jamboree. Thought it would be a thinner crowd and the possibility of finding a good FL there. Also, I wanted to ease my way up to Ipanema. Thought this would be a good place to start. The place was packed! The ratio was nothing like what I was expecting. It looked like there were more guys than gals. I thought to myself that I had made a big mistake. I shouldn't have overslept. Nevertheless, I ordered a beer and thought about what I was in for. Looks like this is going to be more work than I expected. I went to the restroom and overheard two guys talking about the crowd. Turns out the Canadian navy was in town. Just my luck. I decided to have another beer, scope the scene some more, and then move on to the next place. After leaving Country Jamboree, I walked into Bongo bar. The place was dead empty. There were a few girls sitting around but nothing to my liking. I ordered a beer and saw a flight of steps at the end of the room so decided to explore. Went downstairs and arrived at Ipanema. Ok, so this is the place everyone talks about! Just like what I had read. The place was packed, with ladies lining the walls, the bar, the dancefloor. But, thanks to the Canadian navy, there were a lot of guys as well. I did a few laps. I have to say that although there was a wide selection, the place was just way too loud. And the strobe light gave me a headache. The live band was tight, but the volume was piercing. After a couple of laps I went back up to Bongo bar to get another drink and some breathing room, then went to the glassed in smoking room to light up and plan my next move. I met a nice Norwegian fellow there who was confused about the crowd. I told him about the Canadian navy. I decided to just bite the bullet and stay at Ipanema, deal with the shoulder to shoulder crowd and ear splitting music with the hopes of grabbing a nice one and heading back to the hotel. Here's where I got off track. I got greedy. With so many women in the club, I wouldn't settle for anything less than stunning. I saw some attractive ladies, but I kept thinking I could do better. This thinking got out of control as the hours passed and I kept looking, taking breaks to go to the smoker's room to reassess. One cute little viet quoted me 200 ST and wanted to leave now. I agreed to the price but told her I wanted to have another beer first. As I sipped my beer I thought I remembered ST should only be 150 tops. I then told her 150 and she gave me an angry look, lightly slapped me on the face, and walked away. I'll admit that it was low of me to agree on a price and then change it so I'll accept the reaction I got. At the same time, I felt like it was ok because there was something about her that seemed like she was all business and wouldn't be much fun in the sack. She was cute, though. As the time rolled on the ladies were still quoting 200 and they wouldn't budge. I asked for how long and they would just say "I make you happy". Also, my warped thinking kept convincing me I could find a better looking one. By the time 3AM rolled around I found myself in a predicament. If I brought a girl back now, we'd probably be done latest by 4:30 after which I would HAVE TO get some sleep. Problem is that I had to be up latest by 6AM to pack and head to the airport and I didn't want to risk sleeping in and missing my flight. So I decided I would just wait until 4 AM, pick up someone and be less choosy, then after the session send her off and get ready to head to the airport, no sleep. I was getting tired. At 4 a decent looking viet with a small frame walked up, shyly. She seemed to be new to this. She was very apprehensive. She quoted 150 and I thought, what the hell, ok. Then she asked me if I was a cop! I said no and we left. On the walk back she said her friend was arrested the previous day so she was scared about that. I assured her I was not the police and when we got into the hotel elevator she lightened up with relief and became very affectionate. I'm sure the hotel security monitoring the elevetor camera got a good chuckle. BTW, no walk of shame at RP. After entering the lobby, took the stairs up one floor and grabbed the elevator from there. No need to walk past the front desk. In the room, we snuggled for a bit with some foreplay and then hopped in the shower. When she removed her clothes I could see that she wasn't as toned as she looked in her dress. Very small breasts and not much definition. Also, a big scar where it looked like she had her appendix removed. It was all ok, though. She had a sweet, friendly attitude which made up for it. But I couldn't help but think of all the other ladies I turned down who now seemed more attractive. I'm such a jerk. I just told myself that its likely they could have been not as personable so I would have lost in that regard. Since I had two pops earlier that day it was hard for me to finish with the CBJ, although she did do a good job. Finished with a HJ. Now I'm spent. She left around 5:30. I walked her out to the street and we said goodbye. I packed, checked out, and headed to the airport, dead tired.

After all that, I have to say that, surprisingly, the best session was the MP at OT earlier that day, followed by the OT FL at night which was a distant second. The Geylang experience sucked. I really wished I had met up with the OT MP girl again later that night, if she was available. One more thing about Ipanema. The combination of much too loud music and poor english of the girls made it very difficult to communicate. Would have been nice to have some conversation and drinks before heading back to the hotel but that was impossible. The only information that could be exchanged was "where are you from?" and pricing. Any other kind of conversation was impossible and there were a lot of blank stares. It got tiring to try to repeat myself, yelling over the loud music. In hindsight, maybe it would have been a good idea to walk upstairs to the Bongo bar where there was more elbow room to sit down and flirt.

Thanks, again, to everyone who filled me in on questions I had before my trip. I'm sure the more experienced mongers out there will find all kinds of things I did wrong during my nighttime OT visit (just wait until you read the Geylang report!). Maybe it will remind you of when you were a newbie yourself in SIN? If I ever make it to SIN again, I will be more prepared, mentally and timing-wise.

Cheers!

Ubers
01-07-11, 06:18
This seems to be an unusual request on these forums, but I'm actually just interested in a good massaged topped off by a great HJ. These run for about 80USD in my home town, and since I'll be in Singapore I'd love for a lower price.

Can anyone recommend a clean, safe, place that actually gives good massages in addition to the HE's?

Thanks in advance!

Camieleke
01-10-11, 15:38
I was in Singapore during Christmass and I had 2 nice massage experiences:

1) It was in Little India in Dunlop Street, close to Jalan Besar. The name of the place was R & R Massage. It was a Thai massage place and the girl I had was very sweet and beautifull. Her name was Kaan.

For 40 Sing $ she gave me a nice and on top a happy ending for free. Really a very nice experience.

2) This massage was in Far East shopping Centre on the 5th floor. I think the number of the booth was 5. 47 and the name was Pearl Beauty. 2 nice young girls available, very good massage with happy ending for 40 + 20 Sing $

Far East shopping is in a side street of Orchard road.

Enjoy.

BC Visitor 71
01-11-11, 15:47
Great report! I somehow see myself reflected in this as I was visiting Singapore for the first time. .

I agree with your Geyland experience, but I somehow disagree with the MP and the Ipanema experience:

I tested some MP's at OT and always had compromised experiences. Not optimal price / service ratio.

FL at Ipanema or in front of OT (my clear recommendation) are the much better option. But you're right, you have to pick one and not think too much about the other. Simply too many to choose from.

Will be in town again on Jan 24 and post report here.


Greetings Gents,

Sorry for the late report. I was in SIN for one night in early Dec and only had until now some time to chime in on my visit. Landed in SIN at 7AM on Dec 4 and flew out 9AM on Dec 5.

First, thanks to everyone who replied to my questions before my visit. Now, on to the report.

After RTFF, I was all set to indulge in the sights and smells that SIN has to offer. I went in with the following plan:

(1) Check into a Hotel 81 in Geylang for a few hours in the morning and get some rest and MAYBE find a SW for a session before heading to my hotel in Orchard. I booked a room at Royal Plaza on Scotts which I was told would not be available until afternoon. I initially planned on staying at the Hilton but after some research decided to spend a few extra bucks and stay at Royal Plaza since the hotel got much better reviews. (2) Once I checked in at Royal Plaza, walk around the neighborhood, scope the MP's in OT and maybe partake in a round. (3) Head to Geylang to check out some of the houses that by now would be open. (4) Head over to OT in the early evening to grab a FL. Then later in the night go back to OT for seconds. I never get out so I had to make the most of it! Also, I should let you know, since I very, very rarely monger, I'm quite content with HJ and CBJ. I can see you rolling your eyes. LOL! I was under the assumption that the various experiences would be ranked in the following order (from best to worst) :

(1) FL from OT, (2) Geylang house, (3) Geylang SW, (4) MP at OT. The experiences did not go the way I expected.

When I landed in SIN at 7AM, I called Royal Plaza and was told that my room may be ready by 10AM, maybe earlier. I decided to go straight to RP and cross my fingers. Let me say that SIN airport is one of the easiest airports to get through. Easier than Geneva. And that's saying a lot! It was quick, easy, efficient, and the airport staff were very courteous. Took a cab to RP, checked in my bags, grabbed a snack, and killed some time in their internet lounge with free internet service. Big screen Apple monitors to boot! My room was ready before 10 AM so once in, I unpacked, showered, and went for a stroll. By noon I decided to enter OT to scope the scene. The MP's were open, with ladies waving for my attention. I browsed a little and also wanted to see where all the clubs were that I had been reading about. It was cool to actually walk around the areas I had seen in pictures and youtube vids. I walked into one MP after a super cute spinner girl invited me in to look at the menu. She had that laminated print out broken down by time and price. As I looked it over she then said 100 for everything, no time limit. I told her I would think about it and come back. I walked around some more, stopped at the 7-11 to buy a pack of covers, and went back to my hotel room (only a 3-5 minute walk) , trying to decide whether I should just head to Geylang now. I have to admit that I got a bit too excited thinking about the girl back at the OT MP who was being very affectionate with me. I decided to head back to OT. Went back into the MP, she didn't change the price on me, and into the room we went. I think this place is up one level on the escalator, far left corner. The room did not look very clean. The walls were a bit dirty, there was a mattress on the floor covered with a towel. The towel didn't look very clean, but maybe it was just really old. I thought to myself,"oh man, what have I gotten myself into." I asked her to change the towel and she happily did. I saw her grab a new one from a stack of neatly folded towels on a shelf in the hallway. Once that concern was addressed, we got down to business. This girl was sexy, chirpy, great little body, very attentive, great attitude. Lots of foreplay. BTW, there was no "massage". This was all about getting busy. After lots of mutual rubbing, squeezing, etc. She wrapped the cover on me and proceeded to give a very nice CBJ. Slow, rhythmic, good suction. She then got ready to mount me but I told her I was just interested in the BJ so she continued with that until I popped. I was in there for approx. 45 minutes. Afterwards, I asked whether she was available in the evening for drinks and who knows what. She said that she has to work until 10 PM and she lives far away and that she would need to ask 'someone' whether its ok. She gave me her # and said that I should call later to check in. I thanked her and went along my merry way. I would hold on to her # as a backup. I thought she was awesome and seemed like she would be a lot of fun to hang out and party with. But at this point, I figured there were a ton of these types and I wanted variety.

Went back to my hotel room to shower and take a short nap before heading to Geylang. I will post my Geyland trip in the Geylang section but I'll tell you now that it was a horrible experience! Total strike out, waste of time. Bad luck. I should have been more prepared. The food was really good, though!

Got back from Geylang at around 6PM and wanted to take another short nap before heading to OT for the final chapter. Fell asleep quite fast and woke up after 10! Damn! I initially planned on getting to OT earlier in case the good ones would get snatched up soon. Showered and headed to OT and by that time it was almost 11. Walked into Country Jamboree. Thought it would be a thinner crowd and the possibility of finding a good FL there. Also, I wanted to ease my way up to Ipanema. Thought this would be a good place to start. The place was packed! The ratio was nothing like what I was expecting. It looked like there were more guys than gals. I thought to myself that I had made a big mistake. I shouldn't have overslept. Nevertheless, I ordered a beer and thought about what I was in for. Looks like this is going to be more work than I expected. I went to the restroom and overheard two guys talking about the crowd. Turns out the Canadian navy was in town. Just my luck. I decided to have another beer, scope the scene some more, and then move on to the next place. After leaving Country Jamboree, I walked into Bongo bar. The place was dead empty. There were a few girls sitting around but nothing to my liking. I ordered a beer and saw a flight of steps at the end of the room so decided to explore. Went downstairs and arrived at Ipanema. Ok, so this is the place everyone talks about! Just like what I had read. The place was packed, with ladies lining the walls, the bar, the dancefloor. But, thanks to the Canadian navy, there were a lot of guys as well. I did a few laps. I have to say that although there was a wide selection, the place was just way too loud. And the strobe light gave me a headache. The live band was tight, but the volume was piercing. After a couple of laps I went back up to Bongo bar to get another drink and some breathing room, then went to the glassed in smoking room to light up and plan my next move. I met a nice Norwegian fellow there who was confused about the crowd. I told him about the Canadian navy. I decided to just bite the bullet and stay at Ipanema, deal with the shoulder to shoulder crowd and ear splitting music with the hopes of grabbing a nice one and heading back to the hotel. Here's where I got off track. I got greedy. With so many women in the club, I wouldn't settle for anything less than stunning. I saw some attractive ladies, but I kept thinking I could do better. This thinking got out of control as the hours passed and I kept looking, taking breaks to go to the smoker's room to reassess. One cute little viet quoted me 200 ST and wanted to leave now. I agreed to the price but told her I wanted to have another beer first. As I sipped my beer I thought I remembered ST should only be 150 tops. I then told her 150 and she gave me an angry look, lightly slapped me on the face, and walked away. I'll admit that it was low of me to agree on a price and then change it so I'll accept the reaction I got. At the same time, I felt like it was ok because there was something about her that seemed like she was all business and wouldn't be much fun in the sack. She was cute, though. As the time rolled on the ladies were still quoting 200 and they wouldn't budge. I asked for how long and they would just say "I make you happy". Also, my warped thinking kept convincing me I could find a better looking one. By the time 3AM rolled around I found myself in a predicament. If I brought a girl back now, we'd probably be done latest by 4:30 after which I would HAVE TO get some sleep. Problem is that I had to be up latest by 6AM to pack and head to the airport and I didn't want to risk sleeping in and missing my flight. So I decided I would just wait until 4 AM, pick up someone and be less choosy, then after the session send her off and get ready to head to the airport, no sleep. I was getting tired. At 4 a decent looking viet with a small frame walked up, shyly. She seemed to be new to this. She was very apprehensive. She quoted 150 and I thought, what the hell, ok. Then she asked me if I was a cop! I said no and we left. On the walk back she said her friend was arrested the previous day so she was scared about that. I assured her I was not the police and when we got into the hotel elevator she lightened up with relief and became very affectionate. I'm sure the hotel security monitoring the elevetor camera got a good chuckle. BTW, no walk of shame at RP. After entering the lobby, took the stairs up one floor and grabbed the elevator from there. No need to walk past the front desk. In the room, we snuggled for a bit with some foreplay and then hopped in the shower. When she removed her clothes I could see that she wasn't as toned as she looked in her dress. Very small breasts and not much definition. Also, a big scar where it looked like she had her appendix removed. It was all ok, though. She had a sweet, friendly attitude which made up for it. But I couldn't help but think of all the other ladies I turned down who now seemed more attractive. I'm such a jerk. I just told myself that its likely they could have been not as personable so I would have lost in that regard. Since I had two pops earlier that day it was hard for me to finish with the CBJ, although she did do a good job. Finished with a HJ. Now I'm spent. She left around 5:30. I walked her out to the street and we said goodbye. I packed, checked out, and headed to the airport, dead tired.

After all that, I have to say that, surprisingly, the best session was the MP at OT earlier that day, followed by the OT FL at night which was a distant second. The Geylang experience sucked. I really wished I had met up with the OT MP girl again later that night, if she was available. One more thing about Ipanema. The combination of much too loud music and poor english of the girls made it very difficult to communicate. Would have been nice to have some conversation and drinks before heading back to the hotel but that was impossible. The only information that could be exchanged was "where are you from?" and pricing. Any other kind of conversation was impossible and there were a lot of blank stares. It got tiring to try to repeat myself, yelling over the loud music. In hindsight, maybe it would have been a good idea to walk upstairs to the Bongo bar where there was more elbow room to sit down and flirt.

Thanks, again, to everyone who filled me in on questions I had before my trip. I'm sure the more experienced mongers out there will find all kinds of things I did wrong during my nighttime OT visit (just wait until you read the Geylang report!). Maybe it will remind you of when you were a newbie yourself in SIN? If I ever make it to SIN again, I will be more prepared, mentally and timing-wise.

Cheers!

Yahooyou
01-11-11, 17:00
Greetings,

New member New Poster, I even made some mistakes others could learn by.

Stay was at the Holiday Inn on Orchard road. Very nice hotel.

Orchard Towers. I was already half in the bag after the "Happy Hour Priority club At the holiday Inn". I sat in harry's for about 3 more beers left alone as long as you didn't invite a wg to sit with you. But I enquired after my 3rd beer. She was cute thick with a big rack. We chatted high level a bit then we started to get into the nuts and bolts. 400 sgd we chatted a bit more 400 sgd. I went back to watching the football game.

Another beer and I was out. Crossed the street and up up up to top 5 "girls on polls" It was ok all they did was stand on the poll with a little hip shaking. Very lame after a run to the john a thai girl caught my eye. At this point I am ripped (never good) we chatted and I bought us a round of drinks. Full octane shots. 50sgd. Then she had to dance. (again lame) but she was very cute. She grinded on me for a bit ect. And another round. This is where I screwed up. We discussed leaving 150sgd for the night.

I was in the bag at this point. On the way out we grabbed some food it was Thai soup and some Prons and very tastey about 15sgn. Then to the cab. I was getting real sloppy at this point. The consumption had taken its toll on me. Down the street 10sgn cab ride. To the room.

After she undressed I realized I picked up a girl with a great pushup bra and cute overalls, that hid her very small baby pouch. But she was still fun and I if no one else was I was having fun.

We played and she started in with a BBBJ the covered me. Being such a lush it was taking a few min. I Got to where I needed to be. But wanted to wait for the main event. So we played a bit DATY her little itty bitty titties. I pulled her up and entered. She was great but tight as hell and was able to pull the condem off.

She freaked out when I hopped up to grab another saying something and then jumping into the shower. Thinking I entered her without being covered. (I didn't) kind of a buzz kill but she calmed down and we started all over again. Less than two min later she started talking about the time.

I said you stay."No I have to go she says".

You stay all night I said again."no I have to go"

"ok then" I said. She then asked for 150sgd."I told her no we are not done" and again 150 please.

"I said no here's 20 for a cab ride leave" She walked out.

I truely felt bad but I said all night when we disucssed the 150. I think it was a communication issue.

MY mistakes.

Getting "too drunk to fuck"

Buying a round of drinks to start with.

Buying a second round of drinks 30 sgd.

Going to top 5

Eatting instead of going stright to the hotel (I figured we would both need our energy)

Things I did right

Negoated 150 for the night at the bar.

Giving her the option to leave with a cab fair.

Ignoring the first 400 sgd girl (she was all business)

Feel free to let me know if I screwed anything else up.

Brados
01-11-11, 17:59
Hi friends. I will in Spore this weekend for 3 day and stay in Royal Hotel near the orchard road. Where to find FL / OT around that area. I don't have time to search around or to geylang due to tied up with a lot of meeting. Any idea what is the easy way to find. With budget around 100sg to 150sg per night.

Really need your help.

Thanks in advance,

Brados

Yahooyou
01-11-11, 18:45
Mp on the 4th floor off the elevator to the right. Looks like a "ligit" place.

I stopped in for a Massage. After the shower a girl in a slinky black dress came in and had me lay down. After about 30 min of a good massage she flipped me over. Made the offer for 50 hand 100 mouth 150 everything. I took the mouth but negoated her down to 75 saying that was all I had."young man discount"

She dropped the dress gave me some good rubs and her titties in my face with wonderful nips.

After 10 min of good mouth action. She was getting tired and said she would have to finnish up with a hand. I told her to go ahead.

We cleaned up and she cleaned the room and I left. Door to do it was a hour and 20 min. She had to unlock the door to let me out. It was 2320.

Massage was a 7

Looks were 5 to 6 with a cute figure

Action was good still haven't found a good gaging porn star BJ.

Place was clean and fresh sheets and towles.

Total damage was 50/75

Maybe a little high but comments welcome

Yahooyou
01-11-11, 19:03
The night of the MP I went for a short walk and met a really cute LBFM spinner.

Nice package with a nose ring cute as a button. We walked and talked I bought a pack of smokes and she picked up some mintos and bought those for her. She thanked me and we walked discussing options. She offered to take me to her bar for a BJ having just shot my load in the MP I declined. I was really mellowed out.

The next night I went for a walk again for smokes I didn't need any just wanted a walk. After being beat down by 6 or so ugly fat bar girls I hear my name. Yep it's her. She joined me for the walk. Again she wanted mintos.

We discussed terms and such 200 for a hour 300 for a 2 hours all night 500. I told her she was being silly. Then she put on the little ho routine rubbing me and holding a hand. I tell her that's just too much and I will call her if I decide other wise.

She went into full court press and offered a bbj for drinks. Ok. I thought but I'm going to go it easy.

A little funny business was started about my order and what we were having and how much it was. I nipped that quickly. Drinks for only you BBJ for me.

All in all for 65sgd I got 1. 5 hours of heavy petting, a BJ, although not to completion. Lots of groping and kissing necking dancing on me very personalized attention. Nothing off limits. She took 5 shots and I had a beer. I don't drink tequila.

I have her number but unless she's down to 150 when I call to make a appointment I'm out.

Trimix
01-12-11, 03:01
I was at R&R. 1h massage 40. She asked (ususal) 50 for "special massage". Negotiated on (ususal) 30.

Ergo: There is no such a thing as a free lunch.


I was in Singapore during Christmass and I had 2 nice massage experiences:

1) It was in Little India in Dunlop Street, close to Jalan Besar. The name of the place was R & R Massage. It was a Thai massage place and the girl I had was very sweet and beautifull. Her name was Kaan.

For 40 Sing $ she gave me a nice and on top a happy ending for free. Really a very nice experience.

2) This massage was in Far East shopping Centre on the 5th floor. I think the number of the booth was 5. 47 and the name was Pearl Beauty. 2 nice young girls available, very good massage with happy ending for 40 + 20 Sing $

Far East shopping is in a side street of Orchard road.

Enjoy.

Trimix
01-12-11, 03:03
Which hour & street you picked for this nightwalks?


The night of the MP I went for a short walk and met a really cute LBFM spinner.

Nice package with a nose ring cute as a button. We walked and talked I bought a pack of smokes and she picked up some mintos and bought those for her. She thanked me and we walked discussing options. She offered to take me to her bar for a BJ having just shot my load in the MP I declined. I was really mellowed out.

The next night I went for a walk again for smokes I didn't need any just wanted a walk. After being beat down by 6 or so ugly fat bar girls I hear my name. Yep it's her. She joined me for the walk. Again she wanted mintos.

We discussed terms and such 200 for a hour 300 for a 2 hours all night 500. I told her she was being silly. Then she put on the little ho routine rubbing me and holding a hand. I tell her that's just too much and I will call her if I decide other wise.

She went into full court press and offered a bbj for drinks. Ok. I thought but I'm going to go it easy.

A little funny business was started about my order and what we were having and how much it was. I nipped that quickly. Drinks for only you BBJ for me.

All in all for 65sgd I got 1. 5 hours of heavy petting, a BJ, although not to completion. Lots of groping and kissing necking dancing on me very personalized attention. Nothing off limits. She took 5 shots and I had a beer. I don't drink tequila.

I have her number but unless she's down to 150 when I call to make a appointment I'm out.

RBorgia
01-12-11, 06:08
They seem to advertise a tantric massage. Anyone had any experiences with them? Any reviews would be appreciated.

Cheers.

RB

Mondeoman
01-12-11, 23:00
The night of the MP I went for a short walk and met a really cute LBFM spinner.

All in all for 65sgd I got 1. 5 hours of heavy petting, a BJ, although not to completion. Lots of groping and kissing necking dancing on me very personalized attention. Nothing off limits. She took 5 shots and I had a beer. I don't drink tequila.

Do you remember which bar it was she took you to?

BionicMan
01-13-11, 00:47
Hi friends. I will in Spore this weekend for 3 day and stay in Royal Hotel near the orchard road. Where to find FL / OT around that area. I don't have time to search around or to geylang due to tied up with a lot of meeting. Any idea what is the easy way to find. With budget around 100sg to 150sg per night.

Really need your help.

Thanks in advance,

BradosHave you read the forum?

There has been tons of messages, even few days ago on OT / Royal Hotel etc.

I appreciate you don't have much time, but why should someone here spend time for you in repeating what has been overly said?

Camieleke
01-13-11, 10:43
I was at R&R. 1h massage 40. She asked (ususal) 50 for "special massage". Negotiated on (ususal) 30.

Ergo: There is no such a thing as a free lunch. Normally I would agree with you but for sure I only paid 40 for the massage incl HJ!

Satrai2000
01-13-11, 20:16
I was in Singapore during Christmass and I had 2 nice massage experiences:

1) It was in Little India in Dunlop Street, close to Jalan Besar. The name of the place was R & R Massage. It was a Thai massage place and the girl I had was very sweet and beautifull. Her name was Kaan.

For 40 Sing $ she gave me a nice and on top a happy ending for free. Really a very nice experience.

2) This massage was in Far East shopping Centre on the 5th floor. I think the number of the booth was 5. 47 and the name was Pearl Beauty. 2 nice young girls available, very good massage with happy ending for 40 + 20 Sing $

Far East shopping is in a side street of Orchard road.

EnjoyI think you mean Far East Plaza And not Far East Shopping Centre. Far East Plaza is on Scott's Road and Far East Shopping Centre is on Orchard Road. Itself.

Far East Plaza indeed has a few massage-joints at the 5th floor, in a back-corridor. Quality fluctuates.

Ebauche
01-14-11, 21:01
Less than two min later she started talking about the time.

I said you stay."No I have to go she says".

You stay all night I said again."no I have to go"

"ok then" I said. She then asked for 150sgd."I told her no we are not done" and again 150 please.

"I said no here's 20 for a cab ride leave" She walked out.

You should have cut the rate to 75-100 w / o taxi money. That would have been the "good sport" thing to do.

150 was low for LT, reasonable for ST. 100 ver reasonable for ST.

ChrisMonger3
01-15-11, 14:42
Hi yahooyou,

What was the name of the place and the girls name? (I think this is the place I used to visit often.)


Mp on the 4th floor off the elevator to the right. Looks like a "ligit" place.

I stopped in for a Massage. After the shower a girl in a slinky black dress came in and had me lay down. After about 30 min of a good massage she flipped me over. Made the offer for 50 hand 100 mouth 150 everything. I took the mouth but negoated her down to 75 saying that was all I had."young man discount"

She dropped the dress gave me some good rubs and her titties in my face with wonderful nips.

After 10 min of good mouth action. She was getting tired and said she would have to finnish up with a hand. I told her to go ahead.

We cleaned up and she cleaned the room and I left. Door to do it was a hour and 20 min. She had to unlock the door to let me out. It was 2320.

Massage was a 7

Looks were 5 to 6 with a cute figure

Action was good still haven't found a good gaging porn star BJ.

Place was clean and fresh sheets and towles.

Total damage was 50/75

Maybe a little high but comments welcome

Yahooyou
01-16-11, 19:42
Hi yahooyou,

What was the name of the place and the girls name? (I think this is the place I used to visit often.) San. V something I think I paid cash so I don't have the recipt. 4th floor and to the right.

Yahooyou
01-16-11, 19:45
Do you remember which bar it was she took you to?B1 floor. Calla japanese pub.

Trimix
01-17-11, 05:09
Any good tip where to go to get a nice soap massage?

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01-17-11, 16:17
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Trimix
01-18-11, 01:37
Yes, I checked the place. It is in Far East Plaza. But it is closed and down!


I think you mean Far East Plaza And not Far East Shopping Centre. Far East Plaza is on Scott's Road and Far East Shopping Centre is on Orchard Road. Itself.

Far East Plaza indeed has a few massage-joints at the 5th floor, in a back-corridor. Quality fluctuates.

FriendlyPlanet
01-18-11, 03:28
Drinks for only you BBJ for me.

All in all for 65sgd I got 1. 5 hours of heavy petting, a BJ, although not to completion. Lots of groping and kissing necking dancing on me very personalized attention. Nothing off limits. She took 5 shots and I had a beer. I don't drink tequila.

I have her number but unless she's down to 150 when I call to make a appointment I'm out. Very cheap- typically at a BMD place, you are expected to drink more than that, and give a tip (say $20- but maybe more for a BJ) to the girl when you leave.


I stopped in for a Massage. After the shower a girl in a slinky black dress came in and had me lay down. After about 30 min of a good massage she flipped me over. Made the offer for 50 hand 100 mouth 150 everything. I took the mouth but negoated her down to 75 saying that was all I had."young man discount" Total damage was 50/75

Maybe a little high but comments welcomeAgain, a good deal- typical asking price is $100 for BBBJ, and often they won't reduce the price.

Trimix
01-18-11, 04:16
I am quite new in town so sorry for maybe some stupid question:

Can you recomend some good BMD place where you can get a nice BJ? And explain a bit about "rules of the game" = (how much should I spend, what is allowed, what can I expect. What they expect from me).

Thanks!


Very cheap- typically at a BMD place, you are expected to drink more than that, and give a tip (say $20- but maybe more for a BJ) to the girl when you leave.

Again, a good deal- typical asking price is $100 for BBBJ, and often they won't reduce the price.

Econo Tech
01-18-11, 06:48
I am quite new in town so sorry for maybe some stupid question:

Can you recomend some good BMD place where you can get a nice BJ? And explain a bit about "rules of the game" = (how much should I spend, what is allowed, what can I expect. What they expect from me).

Thanks! You got to be kidding mate. Expecting BJ or anything in BMD bar is hit or miss and the law doesn't condone such stuff inside bars. This is Singapore for fxxks sake.

How much to spend? How much can you spend? A shot of tequila can go from 30$ to 300$ (same glass. The latter is when the buyer is a carrot-head)

What to do. Again. No guarantee. When the law is on prowl, it cna be limited to Hi, what's your name, buy me drink, how long are in Singapore, buy me drink, can I talk to you, buy me drink, have you had your dinner, buy me drink.

Or. Some places- especially around closing times, the management closes one eye so you can dig your hands into the boobs / puxxxy. Or go a bit further and kiss / hug / suck (no-its getting too much for me write. As I am not a graphic artist.)

And sometimes, girls get daring and decide to go down. If there is a BMD place where a going down is confirmed.let me know. 15 years in Sillypore and still haven't found. As I said. It is on time, girls attitude, and how much you spend.

Me? I'd rather spend 200 or 300 and go for a LT.than to enjoy the thrilll of touch-me, touch-me-not, .

Savvy?

Geneva Guy
01-18-11, 14:12
I am quite new in town so sorry for maybe some stupid question:

Can you recomend some good BMD place where you can get a nice BJ? And explain a bit about "rules of the game" = (how much should I spend, what is allowed, what can I expect. What they expect from me).

Thanks!Yes. Try Nine on Tras Street, was there a month ago, all filipinas and got a BJ on the spot. Lots of fun, but LDs are not cheap! Ask for Anna.

HotStud251
01-19-11, 12:07
Geylong is a hub of pros. They reside thier only and when it gets dark they dress up and come stand on road. You can negotiate to 150 sd to 35sd. Damm cheap. But quality is usually poor and rooms are readily available. Just on a short walk.

Trimix
01-20-11, 01:33
So, managed to find famous Desker Road. And its "be (l) ackground"

The offer is terrible. All old and worn out ladies. I even didn`t ask a price :/

Then I discovered also the Petain road.

You shuld take MRT till Farrer park, then cross the Serangoon Road. And a bit mor north you have it.

Entering from Serangoon Road side put attention on 2nd or 3rd smal "road" on your rigt. It will be narrow, no cars and full ow standing / walking locals.

When you enter you will notice that there are corridors left and right with red light and rooms.

It is actualy "back yard" of Geylang. Ladies not beeing more in class to work there are coming here. So expect old and not so nice to see offer. Bat there are some exemptions.

I found her in the corridor opposite to the only shop in that road / passage. She is in the 1st floor left- room 28.

Age in late 30 but still nice body and kind of japan-girlisch look.

Damage 50 for 30mins. Decent service- nothing special.


As Econo Tech points out,"Desker Road" is kind of a misnomer. The actual RLD is an alley between Desker Road and Rowell Road that stretches roughly from Serangoon to Jalan Besar. Kampong Kapor is in the middle, and it's a little bit easier "access point" than the food court on the northwest end.

Bangkok Xx Bob
01-23-11, 00:19
Just wondering what PP is like since the renovations. Is the format still the same?

Econo Tech
01-23-11, 05:03
Just wondering what PP is like since the renovations. Is the format still the same?Became a BMD bar. Walk in, give your wallet to the waitress, so they can charge you rip off LD. 50$ for 5 shots of micro-sized Tequila, and if you are not careful the same 5 shots become 300$, and the girls say "make me happy and I will meet you after work"

If you been in BMD bar, you know what I am talking of.

Not my cup of tea anymore.

Bangkok Xx Bob
01-23-11, 22:48
Became a BMD bar. Walk in, give your wallet to the waitress, so they can charge you rip off LD. 50$ for 5 shots of micro-sized Tequila, and if you are not careful the same 5 shots become 300$, and the girls say "make me happy and I will meet you after work"

If you been in BMD bar, you know what I am talking of.

Not my cup of tea anymore. I do and thanks for the warning. Pity as good memories from there.

Randy O
01-24-11, 05:26
Soapy massage

(. Though not much before 2-3 or so. If you are looking for earlier, try one of the many many massage parlors.)

Searching the threads for a nice massage place such as a soapy massage or sauna type that resemble those found in Jakarta.

Can someone provide me with some info, names and addresses that I can quickly give a taxi driver? I am looking for 12-4 pm action, plus decent real massage.

BTW, where are the Thai fishbowls?

BTW, while I'm at it, how about Russian girls?

RapidFirer
01-24-11, 05:32
How much to spend? How much can you spend? A shot of tequila can go from 30$ to 300$

I'd rather spend 200 or 300 and go for a LT. Than to enjoy the thrilll of touch-me, touch-me-not, . I will be in Singapore for the first time in a couple of weeks and have been reading the forum with interest.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that I should be paying around SIN$75-$100 for ST and $250-$350 for all night. A HE massage will cost around $50.

The price of drinks can vary, presumably depending on how many have been consumed before, however, in general, what is the average price of a beer?

I will be staying very near OT and am I right in assuming that OT is a good place for LT and Geylang is better for ST, or am I way off the mark here?

Are there any particular bars that are either very good or must be avoided as they rip you off?

Any help on the above would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Rapid

Econo Tech
01-24-11, 05:53
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears that I should be paying around SIN$75-$100 for ST and $250-$350 for all night. A HE massage will cost around $50.Sort, of yes, but, then who has the fixed price for pussy? If you are a sucker to pay 10X more or desperate. Their always will be somebody to take advantage of you.


The price of drinks can vary, presumably depending on how many have been consumed before, however, in general, what is the average price of a beer?No. Not like that. Prices are fixed, and no bar cheats you based on your level of drunkenness.

Beer. Happy hour 6$.8$, regular price 11 $ to 12 $

The prices for Ladies drink varies based on bars, and based on how screwed you look like. So you can get a lady a LD for 100$ or 10$. That is only at the BMD bars. Not everywhere.


Are there any particular bars that are either very good or must be avoided as they rip you off?Any BMD bars.

Hcbus
01-24-11, 07:58
I will be relocating soon to SG from Taiwan. Are there any MP places near Ang Mo Kio with happy ending? FL are also OK. I RTFF plus searched on Google but no luck (there seems to be some gay MP near that area but that's not my cup of tea).

Thanks

Allover
01-24-11, 08:23
Are there any particular bars that are either very good or must be avoided as they rip you off? In Orchard Towers, Ipanema is outstanding and Country Jamboree is also good. Brix at the Hyatt Hotel is worth a look but expensive. Geyland is good for legal massage / brothels most often staffed by Thais. The street scene at Geylang is poor now compared to several years back.

RapidFirer
01-24-11, 10:50
Sort, of yes, but, then who has the fixed price for pussy? If you are a sucker to pay 10X more or desperate. Their always will be somebody to take advantage of you.

No. Not like that. Prices are fixed, and no bar cheats you based on your level of drunkenness.

Beer. Happy hour 6$.8$, regular price 11 $ to 12 $

The prices for Ladies drink varies based on bars, and based on how screwed you look like. So you can get a lady a LD for 100$ or 10$. That is only at the BMD bars. Not everywhere.

Any BMD bars. Thanks Econo Tech. I was quoting ball park figures and just wanted confirmation that I was near the mark. Don't want to go there and start paying inflated prices and ruining things for the regulars.

Think I might avoid the BMD bars as it will be a boozy weekend. But then again maybe not. Will see which way the wind is blowing when I get there.

RapidFirer
01-24-11, 10:51
In Orchard Towers, Ipanema is outstanding and Country Jamboree is also good. Brix at the Hyatt Hotel is worth a look but expensive. Geyland is good for legal massage / brothels most often staffed by Thais. The street scene at Geylang is poor now compared to several years back.Cheers Allover. Good info to have on hand as I will only have a couple of days & will want to make the most of them.

Econo Tech
01-25-11, 07:30
Thanks Econo Tech. I was quoting ball park figures and just wanted confirmation that I was near the mark. Don't want to go there and start paying inflated prices and ruining things for the regulars.If you are still talking of drink price. Bar prices are freaking fixed and nobdoy inflates prices.

Where would you be from. To assume such a thing?

Randy O
01-25-11, 07:51
I only have a week in Singapore and I'm wondering your thoughts on Batam or other not so distant islands worth going to for several nights. Or, maybe it's best just to stay put in Singapore for only a week of fun. Your opinion please!

At least your money is stretched further in Batam, right?

Econo Tech
01-26-11, 08:01
At least your money is stretched further in Batam, right?If you know Bahasa, your money can be stretched, pulled, yanked, and extended atleast by 3 times or more.

My 2 cents.

Tanglin
01-26-11, 08:53
If you are still talking of drink price. Bar prices are freaking fixed and nobdoy inflates prices.

Where would you be from. To assume such a thing? I think he was talking about the price of girls.

RapidFirer
01-26-11, 18:07
I think he was talking about the price of girls.I was talking about the girls. Here in DXB, we continually get tourists paying the first price quoted without negotiating as they haven't done their homework. The WG's start getting the idea that everyone will pay that rate & negotiations become that much harder.

AussieGaigin
01-27-11, 20:15
I only have a week in Singapore and I'm wondering your thoughts on Batam or other not so distant islands worth going to for several nights. Or, maybe it's best just to stay put in Singapore for only a week of fun. Your opinion please!

At least your money is stretched further in Batam, right? Have you read the reports in the Batam section?

Raverboy
01-28-11, 05:32
Thanks Econo Tech. I was quoting ball park figures and just wanted confirmation that I was near the mark. Don't want to go there and start paying inflated prices and ruining things for the regulars.

Think I might avoid the BMD bars as it will be a boozy weekend. But then again maybe not. Will see which way the wind is blowing when I get there. My 2 cents for 'ball park figures' for Singapore, speaking as a local S'porean:

OT:

SGD 100-150 ST.

SGD 150-200 LT.

Those of you who pay more than this - thank you, as you will give them further incentive to come back to my country to work as wh*res. I always try to get away with the 'break even' rate, or the 'equilibrium' rate. The above rates are what I always offer at OT: Viets, Thais, Flips. As for the odd Russian or Colombian. I've never been convinced to agree to their inflated prices, nor to even bother with Brix: where you add SGD 50 / SGD 50. 150 to the above ST / LT rates.

Geylang:

SGD 35-40 ST 20 mins (!). Indo.

SGD 50 ST 25-30 mins. Thai (both 'legal houses' and FL)

SGD 50-100 ST. Mainland Chinese FL.

SGD 100-150 ST. Malaysian Chinese ('legal' houses)

LT in Geylang is infrequent for non-regulars / short term visitors, negotiate directly with SP / house / handler.

What you have described about DXB has already happened in SIN (re: negotiations becoming harder because prices have been driven up by the un-informed mongerer)

Mondeoman
01-29-11, 01:11
My 2 cents for 'ball park figures' for Singapore, speaking as a local S'porean:

OT:

SGD 100-150 ST.

SGD 150-200 LT.

I always try to get away with the 'break even' rate, or the 'equilibrium' rate. The above rates are what I always offer at OTI'm interested to know how often are you successful at those rates? Are you saying you can get any girl in Ipanema for $200 LT at any time or do you have to settle for 2nd / 3rd / 4th choices at 3am? I'm not sure the more attractive girls at the foot of the small flight of steps down to the bar will go for $200 LT.

Raverboy
01-29-11, 04:32
I'm interested to know how often are you successful at those rates? Are you saying you can get any girl in Ipanema for $200 LT at any time or do you have to settle for 2nd / 3rd / 4th choices at 3am? I'm not sure the more attractive girls at the foot of the small flight of steps down to the bar will go for $200 LT.

Quite often - when I was still living in Singapore that is. I tend to be quite picky but patient, and I try to be like them, where I've honed it down to sniffing out that right combination of attraction / chemistry / porn-star quality / hunger / desperation in a working girl. Then its usually not a problem. In other words, I settle for my first choice at 2-3 am. :D

The more attractive girls at the foot of the small flight of steps. I call that the Viet 1st offensive line-up or the Viet 'A' Grade. They usually close the deal high, are out the door the second you squirt, only to be back in the line-up at Ipa. I have seen girls from this line-up walk out hand-in-hand with a guy, only to return back to the line-up literally 30-45 mins later. I tend to avoid picking from this line-up, preferring more the Viet/Thai 'B' Grade defensive (as opposed to offensive) positions. :)

Living outside of Singapore now, I tend to revisit Ipa/OT whenever I'm visiting home, but only as an observer to see what the monkeys are up to. ;)

Ronin500
01-29-11, 05:19
My 2 cents for 'ball park figures' for Singapore, speaking as a local S'porean:

OT:

SGD 100-150 ST.

SGD 150-200 LT.

Those of you who pay more than this. Thank you, as you will give them further incentive to come back to my country to work as wh*res. I always try to get away with the 'break even' rate, or the 'equilibrium' rate. The above rates are what I always offer at OT: Viets, Thais, Flips. As for the odd Russian or Colombian. I've never been convinced to agree to their inflated prices, nor to even bother with Brix: where you add SGD 50 / SGD 50. 150 to the above ST / LT rates. I agree that these are the going rates for one who knows the game and isn't willing to accept the girls first request for alot more. [/QUOTE=Raverboy; 1117143]]

Geylang:

SGD 35-40 ST 20 mins (!). Indo.

SGD 50 ST 25-30 mins. Thai (both 'legal houses' and FL)

SGD 50-100 ST. Mainland Chinese FL.

SGD 100-150 ST. Malaysian Chinese ('legal' houses)

LT in Geylang is infrequent for non-regulars / short term visitors, negotiate directly with SP / house / handler.

What you have described about DXB has already happened in SIN (re: negotiations becoming harder because prices have been driven up by the un-informed mongerer)[/QUOTE]If you are caucasian then the prices at the legal houses quoted above are not available to you. In all of the fishbowl brothels, that now, in addition to Thais seem to also staff mainland Chinese, the price is either S$80 or S$100.

For the SWs, you certainly can and should negotiate. Lowest price is Srilanka / Bangladesh, then Indonesians, Thais, Chinese and occasional local SG girl. Of course, service varies too, with the lowest price ones usually being starfish. That said, the last few times I was back in SG, most recently last month, all I saw were Chinese girls. All the others, which variety made Geylang so great a place, seem to have been chased away.

Geneva Guy
01-29-11, 14:19
I'm interested to know how often are you successful at those rates? Are you saying you can get any girl in Ipanema for $200 LT at any time or do you have to settle for 2nd / 3rd / 4th choices at 3am? I'm not sure the more attractive girls at the foot of the small flight of steps down to the bar will go for $200 LT.My own experience (was there in December 2010) was that I could (and did) pick up one of the "front line" viets (at the bottom of the stairs) for $S150 LT. Now, was she a 10/10 looks. Nope, more like an 8/10, but was she fun. Absolutely. 3 holer, stayed all nite no arguing, and unlimited shots. Ended up staying with me for a few nites (told her NOT to dress up in OT type clothes, but regular clothes so we could avoid the "walk of shame" in the AM. And just picked her up at IPA (bottom of the stairs, hehe) or had her meet me at my place). In the end, she enjoyed (as did I) snuggling in bed after sex and in the AM, eating breakfast together, and cleaned up the place and did some laundry also.

The key was this for me. Don't take the first offer. Let's face it guys, there are 4 floors of working girls in OT, there is not one girl that you "have to have" cause if you take that approach, you will pay too much. I am a white American, speak a tiny bit of vietnamese (just learn a couple of phrases, it does help). I have accomplished this 150 / LT rate anytime between 9pm-2am. Now, I'm not generally into viets, but this one was quite extraordinary.

Also, this time I stayed in Tao Payoh (which is a good 20 min taxi ride from OT) at a flat there (friend who was gone). So it was a bit more of a "captive environment". Keep in mind that these girls pay their "agents" about S$1500-2500 to come to SG plus their room (about S$300 / month). So you can see why they may want to fuck and run. But. If you find a nice girl and you are in town for a few days and want to keep her. She can make 600-1000 for the week from you, she will go for that (I kept this girl for 6 nites / days total was S$1000 plus 6 cab fares at S$20 each). These places where they live (this one was in Clementi) are full of girls, no privacy and for some of the places, a floating gambling parlor is ongoing in the place. So,"try a little tenderness" and I think you will make out fine. And be ready to change your approach on the fly. Finally, keep in mind that most of these girls want some degree of being treated like a lady, respected and kind. I have found this works much better. As long as you don't let them take advantage of YOU!

Also, if you don't want a repeater. The fact that the other girls in the first line saw one leave with you puts you at an advantage to take them back. With the same terms. At least that is what I have found.

Enjoy Singapore.

GG

Raverboy
01-30-11, 04:28
...For the SWs, you certainly can and should negotiate. Lowest price is Srilanka / Bangladesh, then Indonesians, Thais, Chinese and occasional local SG girl...

Local Singapore Chinese WGs are very rare. There is however, a small contingent of local Singapore Malay WGs, usually on Lorong 10 between the mainland Chinese and the Indos, and on Lorong 16.

Lurkingdog
01-31-11, 04:57
Thanks to all of the posters who share information. I was on my first trip to Singapore and decided to try Little India. I did find the alley near Decker Road. A little too scary for my tastes. I found R & R massage mentioned a few posts back but decided against trying it with a whole family of folks getting foot massages in the front room. I did stop at Thai Hot Oil massage right on Decker Street and had a oiled massage from "Ahn" who was from Thailand and this was her 3rd or 4th day in Singapore. 40 SG$ for the 60 minutes. Very nice and completed massage and nice playing with the boys even before the flip. At the flip, she started negotiating. Wanted 50 for HR, and after some back and forth we decided on 100 for the whole works (included a very lovely BBBJ). Never hurried and she was as much of a GFE as I've ever had in a rub and tub facility. I was very pleasantly surprised. She even offered (and I accepted) a shower after the deed. Probably spent 75 minutes there all told and while, comparatively speaking I might have overpaid, I feel like I got my money's worth. The only downside (and somewhat amusing to us during the encounter) was the incessant pounding of the construction right next door. So be warned, it's not the greatest atmosphere but I suppose you shouldn't really expect it in Little Indian or Geylang.

Thanks again for all of the information from before.

LD

RapidFirer
01-31-11, 05:49
Raverboy, Geneva Guy and Ronin 500

Thanks for the info guys. I will be in Singapore this weekend and will put all this to good use. Will submit my FR next week once I recover.

Cheers.

Rapid

Mc Don
01-31-11, 17:30
Most I have paid at OT is 250 for LT, least 150LT. Never taken ST from there.

Gaylang ST. 30 to 70 on the street. 70 to 100 in house.

What are the prices for philippinas at Lucky Plaza and what are the main venues there?

Is Sunday during the day still "nanny night" next to Ipanama or is it better to go for afternoon fun at LP?

Lurkingdog
02-01-11, 03:01
On night 2 of my recent trip, went to Lucky Plaza due to one of the earlier reports. There are many massage places interspersed between shops and I suspect they're all the same. I decided on Crystal Massage (2nd floor at the SE corner near Orchard Road itself) as they were a little bit away from all of the other businesses and the slender woman was there was not pushy like some can be and quite attractive (I'd say an "8"). I purchased a 45 minute oil massage (50 SG$) and she got to work. The massage itself was actually quite good. She did this great thing where she got up on my back and had he knees ground into both sides of the spine and sort of rocked back and forth and slowly moved up to the shoulder neck area. It was really outstanding. When she started paying attention to the naughty bits, I was actually a little disappointed as the massage was really good. After she teased for awhile, she had me flip and asked if I wanted a "really nice massage". Turned out she was only offering a HR and wanted 100 for that. By this time, I was pretty mesmerized and asked her if she would do more. Her response surprised me. "not here, can only massage here". So I asked if she would go out with me and she said "sure". At this point, I told her I'd let her finish me off for 70 and she did so in a very slow an luxurious fashion. I know I overpaid by the board's standards but I sort of viewed it as an investment. After I cleaned-up and dressed, she did give me her number and I wandered up to Orchard Towers. I had one expensive beer in one of the bars (I think it was Naughty Girls or something like that) and saw some really hot girls but everyone seemed to be employees of the bar. Didn't find anyone that seemed to be FL but it was relatively early in the evening still (10:30-11:00). Saw all of the massage places in OT as well and decided to call it a night.

The next day I had business all day but I called "Lu-Lu" back at Crystal and she agreed to meet me that evening. Long story short, I went up to the massage place and we took a cab back to my hotel (Riverview). As I wrote on the Hotel board, there was absolutely no problem going up to the room. She stayed about 90 minutes, we showered, I got a massage, then CFS, then I massaged her and got another massage and a final release on her chest. Total damage 200. Again, I probably over paid by market rates but I can honestly say I enjoyed the entire experience and it seemed well worth it. I don't get the sense that she is an Orchard Tower type of girl but I also suspect that this wasn't the first time she delivered a take out service.

I also may a foray into Geylang in the middle of the afternoon (the only time I had). Didn't see much of anything I would want to "get into" but I suspect that things pick up later in the afternoon / evening. Some of the places looked pretty scary from the outside. Also noticed that there were a lot of massage places on the main street in Chinatown at the MRT stop interspersed between the shops (mostly up the stairs on the 2nd floor). I didn't partake of any of them during this trip but does anyone know about the services available there?

Stay safe everyone,

LD

DavidCanada1979
02-03-11, 11:52
I was quoted 50-80 in the houses at Geyland, but that was during the day (afternoon)

OT was 150 ST for me typically, very hard to get it lower than that.

Sunday is still nanny day in OT. A few places had tea dances. It can get quite crazy, but it was hard for me to approach.


Most I have paid at OT is 250 for LT, least 150LT. Never taken ST from there.

Gaylang ST. 30 to 70 on the street. 70 to 100 in house.

What are the prices for philippinas at Lucky Plaza and what are the main venues there?

Is Sunday during the day still "nanny night" next to Ipanama or is it better to go for afternoon fun at LP?

Baldy
02-04-11, 20:12
Dear Fellow Member,

Thanks Forum member for contribution in forum, based in report, I went to health club in holi*why inn, requested for massage.

The facilities were good, nice girl came and asked if I want something to drink, I asked for coffee. Then I had shower, she then proceeded with oil massage, which was good and relaxing, I was face down enjoying the feeling, not sure if she was fully naked or in panties, I was wondering hoe it would end. Later when she asked to turn she asked if I want special service, she said 120 sd which I agreed after trying to negotiate. Standard BJ and FS. But overall it was ok

Topmanten
02-07-11, 15:18
From where one can pick up maids on saterday / Sunday tea dance, and what is the modes operandy?

BionicMan
02-07-11, 16:11
From where one can pick up maids on saterday / Sunday tea dance, and what is the modes operandy?Full of information support here, RTFF

Econo Tech
02-08-11, 06:38
From where one can pick up maids on saterday / Sunday tea dance, and what is the modes operandy?Anywhere, at Super Market, wet market, playground, botanical gardens, sentosa. All you do is walk up to the maid or woman who looks like a maid and tell her "want to screw" and see if she calls the cops of smiles. If former, leg it out of there, if latter, move to the next base.

There you go.

Bionicman. Don't be so hard. People need guidance mate.

Topmanten
02-08-11, 14:30
Hi,

Thats not the right way, tell me some thing more parlimentry opening sentence to a girl!

Thanks.


Anywhere, at Super Market, wet market, playground, botanical gardens, sentosa. All you do is walk up to the maid or woman who looks like a maid and tell her "want to screw" and see if she calls the cops of smiles. If former, leg it out of there, if latter, move to the next base.

There you go.

Bionicman. Don't be so hard. People need guidance mate.

Ebauche
02-08-11, 17:31
Hi,

Thats not the right way, tell me some thing more parlimentry opening sentence to a girl!

Thanks. Go to a tea dance at OT, open your wallet, and offer to buy drinks / food. Of course you'll be buying for your target and all her friends.

....and RTFF.

Econo Tech
02-09-11, 08:45
Go to a tea dance at OT, open your wallet, and offer to buy drinks / food. Of course you'll be buying for your target and all her friends.

And RTFFTopmanten wants to know how to talk to a girl. Not a working girl. .

Well, opening the wallet will not always work. Most maids will think you are a show off and will avoid you. While some will step your way to suck you dry

As to who is who. You never know until you try.

Topmanten
02-10-11, 00:05
Thanks, how do you approch, for example, a girl / maid at lucky plaza on a Sunday afternoon?

Thorugh some light, it will be of useful to me and to many others.


Topmanten wants to know how to talk to a girl. Not a working girl. .

Well, opening the wallet will not always work. Most maids will think you are a show off and will avoid you. While some will step your way to suck you dry

As to who is who. You never know until you try.

Raverboy
02-10-11, 03:38
Thanks, how do you approch, for example, a girl / maid at lucky plaza on a Sunday afternoon?

Thorugh some light, it will be of useful to me and to many others. Approach them any way you want, but it would be useful to know your target.

The market wage of Filipina domestic workers in Singapore is SGD 450-550 / month not including the Government Levy, which depends on the age and income (amongst other things) of the employer. The above range is the net take home of the domestic worker, the Government Levy adds SGD 70-150 on top of that, so the employer is paying SGD 520-700 / month. Domestic workers who start work with a new employer generally receive only a small portion of the take home figure for the 1st 6 months in order to cover the expenses of the agent to bring her into Singapore (air tickets, temporary accomodation, training, paperwork, etc.). After that she receives the full take home salary and is entitled to 1 (one) Sunday off per month. A generous employer would give her every Sunday off. Take home figures are different for Myanmar, Indonesian, Thai domestic workers. Yes its discriminatory wages, just like Geylang. ;)

The domestic worker is also obliged to go for periodic medical check-ups. Pregnancy is grounds for immediate deportation. That's for you BB-lovers out there. :D

Econo Tech
02-10-11, 06:12
The market wage of Filipina domestic workers in Singapore is SGD 450-550 / month not including the Government Levy, which depends on the age and income (amongst other things) of the employer.Correct.


The above range is the net take home of the domestic worker, the Government Levy adds SGD 70-150 on top of that, so the employer is paying SGD 520-700 / month.Haven't heard of the time the levy was so low. It has been $ 300 to $ 350, except for those who qualify for the system of 'parental / special care' whereby the maid / caregivers pay too goes up.


Domestic workers who start work with a new employer generally receive only a small portion of the take home figure for the 1st 6 months in order to cover the expenses of the agent to bring her into Singapore (air tickets, temporary accomodation, training, paperwork, etc.).Mostly, the first six months, most maids get ZILCH, thanks to the law of Philippines where every maid must have an agent, and the agent walks off with upto 6 months of salary. And the cost of ticket etc. Can cover another 2 months. Effectively, most maids work for upto 8 months FOC. Unless they find an employer who is willing to give them an allowance. Or an employer who writes off the cost of the agency + air ticket + training + the basic test required in Singapore.


After that she receives the full take home salary and is entitled to 1 (one) Sunday off per month.That one day a month is under dispute. Prudent employers keep the maid at home for all 7 days, and when the contract is up, compensate the maid for the Sundays she worked, instead of worrying if she managed to inherit HIV or became pregnant.


A generous employer would give her every Sunday off. Take home figures are different for Myanmar, Indonesian, Thai domestic workers. Yes its discriminatory wages, just like Geylang. .

The domestic worker is also obliged to go for periodic medical check-ups. Pregnancy is grounds for immediate deportation. That's for you BB-lovers out there.Yep, you are right on both grounds, and while I feel sympathy for the maids, sometimes, there is the side of employer who is fretting out the loss of his S$ 5, 000 bond for the maid getting pregnant. No kidding.

Topmanten
02-10-11, 06:12
Thanks, for the detailed information. So if the girl is new to Singapore, the chances are better, as she is cash starved?

Have you got any success with maids pickup and how much you paid?

Thanks in advance.


Approach them any way you want, but it would be useful to know your target.

The market wage of Filipina domestic workers in Singapore is SGD 450-550 / month not including the Government Levy, which depends on the age and income (amongst other things) of the employer. The above range is the net take home of the domestic worker, the Government Levy adds SGD 70-150 on top of that, so the employer is paying SGD 520-700 / month. Domestic workers who start work with a new employer generally receive only a small portion of the take home figure for the 1st 6 months in order to cover the expenses of the agent to bring her into Singapore (air tickets, temporary accomodation, training, paperwork, etc.). After that she receives the full take home salary and is entitled to 1 (one) Sunday off per month. A generous employer would give her every Sunday off. Take home figures are different for Myanmar, Indonesian, Thai domestic workers. Yes its discriminatory wages, just like Geylang. .

The domestic worker is also obliged to go for periodic medical check-ups. Pregnancy is grounds for immediate deportation. That's for you BB-lovers out there. .

Econo Tech
02-10-11, 11:26
Thanks, for the detailed information. So if the girl is new to Singapore, the chances are better, as she is cash starved?That's where you go wrong mate.

They are maid, and they are poor, but equating them to cash starved to the extent of them jumping at the chance to make money? . No. I would say a fair 5% would be in that category, and the rest. They have pride. And self respect. And they would like the attention and care, not the money for sex thingy.

And if anybody says otherwise. Let me put it this way. The maids you see in OT and Lucky pLaza and City Square and GMC and so are a minute percentage of the rest, who are busy doing other part time work like cleaning, or taking up lessons etc. Etc. [/QUOTE]You got any success with maids pickup and how much you paid?[/QUOTE]If you have that attitude, you will end up with working girls who masquerade as maids.

Have fun

Geneva Guy
02-10-11, 14:03
Hi Board:

I just released my maid in SG (filipina). So let me clarify the "rules" a bit. There is a set minimum for wages and yes, it varies based on ethnicity. For filpinas, it is a mimimum of 600 SGD / month plus room and board. My maid had her own room, some maids share with the kids. The maids get each Sunday and each public holiday off (so weekly one day off. I had to take a course to learn the rules before getting a maid, one day off per week is mandatory now). The maids generally have to be back by 7PM on Sunday night, but the employer can let them stay out longer. Do maids fool around with the employers. Well yes, but if you get caught, there is a large fine to the employer. So smart employer's don't do that. The medical checkups are pregnancy and STDs other than HIV twice a year and HIV once a year.

In terms of the "scene" in SG for the maids, the filipinas frequent Lucky Plaza (Sunday is the day they send $ home) and OT for tea dances. I have had luck at LP in the past, just walking around and smiling broadly. If you get a big smile back. Stop and say Hi, introduce yourself. Then take it from there. Don't start out "want to go back to my place". They can be shy, but if you offer them coffee, to go to OT for a bit of dancing, a meal (the food is not expensive and remember. They don't generally cook Filipino food at their place of work, LP has some Filipino restaurants). You can make inroads fast. These girls are like any others. They want to be appreciated and treated like women. They get to LP early. 9-10am, and the place is packed. So walk around, look around, say Hi, smile. Filipinas are very friendly. This can work. The Indo maids hang out elsewhere, but I don't recall. I'm not certain about the maids from other places. Sorry can't help there. But suspect the Indian maids may go to Little India where there are lots of places to eat, congregate, shop, etc.

OT. Go to a tea dance. You say you don't know anyone or you are going alone. Not a problem Get out and dance. Just jump into the crowd and dance. The filpina maids love it. And will dance and socialize with you. That is your opening. Buy a pitcher of beer AND get some ICE (they put ice in their beer, even better, it goes further cause a pitcher might be 20-25SGD). And again, don't be crude. I was hanging with a group of 3 maids recently. Had been standing out front of OT waiting for my pal, they walked by to go in, got a BIG smile from one of them. Saw she went into a first floor dance. My pal arrived, we went into the same place. And she and her friends found me and my buddy. We had a great time. But. One of the girls was upset. Cause some guy had come up to her and said "I'll give you 50 bucks for a BJ". She started yelling at him "I'm not a working girl". Now, that was funny, but shows you, don't be crude.

Another place to find filipina maids is Plaza Singapura. Get a starbucks, sit outside the place (large covered seating area) and just wait. Smile, use your phone, look around. They congregate there. Big smiles = interest. Say Hi, introduce yourself. You have nothing to lose by being nice. It does work.

And. The filipinas are clean to a "T". So, if you go back. TAKE A SHOWER, they will. And clean all cracks and crevices. Even the ones you may normally miss. The girls I have been with appreicated a clean man. And they are very clean (yes, there are exceptions). But since SG (and PHIL) is hot and humid. 30 mins outside = stinky bodies. So clean up, and fresh breath (these girls won't kiss you until they have brushed their teeth). So. Keep an extra toothbrush around (I always have a couple of disposable ones). And as pointed out. No BB. Pretty much none of these girls is on birth control and many have no real understanding of their cycle, contraception, etc. And remember. If they get pregnant, they go home. And they need the work to support their families. So be considerate.

Enjoy Singapore.

GG.

I'm sure other members that spend more time in SG can give better / other advice. But that's my experience.

Econo Tech
02-11-11, 06:39
Do maids fool around with the employers. Well yes, but if you get caught, there is a large fine to the employer.It is not a law, but when the maid is in trouble, she is known to point the finger to the employer who once or twice screwed her. Though the real cause of her trouble is the nepali / bangladeshi / myanmar worker. . .


The medical checkups are pregnancy and STDs other than HIV twice a year and HIV once a year.And a random check for Pregnancy and HIV, upto the MOM's mood. .


This can work. The Indo maids hang out elsewhere, but I don't recall. I'm not certain about the maids from other places. Sorry can't help there. But suspect the Indian maids may go to Little India where there are lots of places to eat, congregate, shop, etc.Indos go to City PLaza in Paya Lebar. And Indians go to Little India and elsewhere. .

Myanmar maids head to Peninsular Plaza.


Cause some guy had come up to her and said "I'll give you 50 bucks for a BJ". She started yelling at him "I'm not a working girl". Now, that was funny, but shows you, don't be crude.Fuck for free and treat 'them like women. And not like working girls. That's the message. Lucky the guy didn't get beat up by the girls' brethren.


Pretty much none of these girls is on birth control and many have no real understanding of their cycle, contraception, etc. And remember. If they get pregnant, they go home. And they need the work to support their families. So be considerate.Yes, be extremely careful and 90% of the maids who get pregnant don't want to abort it.being Faithful Catholics (Phils) or Religious muslims (Indos). And if you just loaded them while the medical comes up next month. It can really spoil your day.

Though abortion is legal in Singapore, including for maids, and the maids are not dumb as they seem to be. While you are in the shower she would have copied down your address and if shit hits the ceiling. As a few friends found out the hard way. They will point the cops in your direction. Though the chance of shit hitting the ceiling is pretty low.

Add to it, the maids who are free and easy work for mostly western employers who have chosen them due to their intelligence and not their dumbness.

Be careful.

And you got enough patience to pen the lot mate. I was a bit lazy to type and hash in the above info.

Raverboy
02-11-11, 07:37
Thanks, for the detailed information. So if the girl is new to Singapore, the chances are better, as she is cash starved?

Have you got any success with maids pickup and how much you paid?

Thanks in advance. I don't pick up maids in Singapore. I'm local so I don't (usually) [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in my own backyard. ;)

For this I go to Manila, read the relevant thread (s) for more details.

Raverboy
02-11-11, 07:50
...i just released my maid in sg (filipina). so let me clarify the "rules" a bit. there is a set minimum for wages and yes, it varies based on ethnicity. for filpinas, it is a mimimum of 600 sgd / month plus room and board. my maid had her own room, some maids share with the kids. the maids get each sunday and each public holiday off (so weekly one day off. i had to take a course to learn the rules before getting a maid, one day off per week is mandatory now). the maids generally have to be back by 7pm on sunday night, but the employer can let them stay out longer. do maids fool around with the employers. well yes, but if you get caught, there is a large fine to the employer. so smart employer's don't do that. the medical checkups are pregnancy and stds other than hiv twice a year and hiv once a year...you're one of the minority in singapore who treats his maid well (better than the average singaporean employer) , but then again i assume you're expatriate. you should see how some of these idiots treat their maids. car washing, chores outside of the residence / contract, no time off, no eating at the family table, confirep001ion of mobile phone, etc. the minimum sgd 600 must be a new rule. we were paying our maid sgd 550 / mth, including the gov't levy. her contract ended in dec. 2010.

Topmanten
02-11-11, 15:25
Thanks a lot, what a detailed report! This will help all of us.

Will follow your advise during my next upcoming visit and will report back, if possible with some nice photo. I had great experience in hk with maids, have a look at the hk photo gallery for my reports and photo.

Could you pl pm me some of your maid contacts, if they like to have fun on a Sunday?


Hi Board:

I just released my maid in SG (filipina). So let me clarify the "rules" a bit. There is a set minimum for wages and yes, it varies based on ethnicity. For filpinas, it is a mimimum of 600 SGD / month plus room and board. My maid had her own room, some maids share with the kids. The maids get each Sunday and each public holiday off (so weekly one day off. I had to take a course to learn the rules before getting a maid, one day off per week is mandatory now). The maids generally have to be back by 7PM on Sunday night, but the employer can let them stay out longer. Do maids fool around with the employers. Well yes, but if you get caught, there is a large fine to the employer. So smart employer's don't do that. The medical checkups are pregnancy and STDs other than HIV twice a year and HIV once a year.

In terms of the "scene" in SG for the maids, the filipinas frequent Lucky Plaza (Sunday is the day they send $ home) and OT for tea dances. I have had luck at LP in the past, just walking around and smiling broadly. If you get a big smile back. Stop and say Hi, introduce yourself. Then take it from there. Don't start out "want to go back to my place". They can be shy, but if you offer them coffee, to go to OT for a bit of dancing, a meal (the food is not expensive and remember. They don't generally cook Filipino food at their place of work, LP has some Filipino restaurants). You can make inroads fast. These girls are like any others. They want to be appreciated and treated like women. They get to LP early. 9-10am, and the place is packed. So walk around, look around, say Hi, smile. Filipinas are very friendly. This can work. The Indo maids hang out elsewhere, but I don't recall. I'm not certain about the maids from other places. Sorry can't help there. But suspect the Indian maids may go to Little India where there are lots of places to eat, congregate, shop, etc.

OT. Go to a tea dance. You say you don't know anyone or you are going alone. Not a problem Get out and dance. Just jump into the crowd and dance. The filpina maids love it. And will dance and socialize with you. That is your opening. Buy a pitcher of beer AND get some ICE (they put ice in their beer, even better, it goes further cause a pitcher might be 20-25SGD). And again, don't be crude. I was hanging with a group of 3 maids recently. Had been standing out front of OT waiting for my pal, they walked by to go in, got a BIG smile from one of them. Saw she went into a first floor dance. My pal arrived, we went into the same place. And she and her friends found me and my buddy. We had a great time. But. One of the girls was upset. Cause some guy had come up to her and said "I'll give you 50 bucks for a BJ". She started yelling at him "I'm not a working girl". Now, that was funny, but shows you, don't be crude.

Another place to find filipina maids is Plaza Singapura. Get a starbucks, sit outside the place (large covered seating area) and just wait. Smile, use your phone, look around. They congregate there. Big smiles = interest. Say Hi, introduce yourself. You have nothing to lose by being nice. It does work.

And. The filipinas are clean to a "T". So, if you go back. TAKE A SHOWER, they will. And clean all cracks and crevices. Even the ones you may normally miss. The girls I have been with appreicated a clean man. And they are very clean (yes, there are exceptions). But since SG (and PHIL) is hot and humid. 30 mins outside = stinky bodies. So clean up, and fresh breath (these girls won't kiss you until they have brushed their teeth). So. Keep an extra toothbrush around (I always have a couple of disposable ones). And as pointed out. No BB. Pretty much none of these girls is on birth control and many have no real understanding of their cycle, contraception, etc. And remember. If they get pregnant, they go home. And they need the work to support their families. So be considerate.

Enjoy Singapore.

GG.

I'm sure other members that spend more time in SG can give better / other advice. But that's my experience.

Chaos Theory
02-12-11, 03:17
Good report but I would just say to correct GG:

There is no minimum wage. There are many many filipina maids earning less than $600 per month. Ignore the Philippines Embassy standard contract or what it said on the course. Filipina's working for Chinese families (I. E. The majority) usually get 450. 500. Bear this in mind when you agree any 'tip'.

Most girls only get one Sunday a month off. Once again ignore what it says in a 'rulebook'. Singaporean Chinese families give one day a month, and they are within there legal rights to do so. None of my Chinese neighbours give more than one day a month off. So most of the girls need to pack a lot of fun into that one day if they are that kind of girl.

Western expats are the people who pay the higher rates and give every Sunday and public holidays as time off. Most Singaporeans wouldn't dream of doing this. I've lived in Singapore for 15 years, employed 4 different maids in that time, been friends with all of them (slept with none of them, too dangerous) and also have a lot of friends and acquaintances who are Singaporean.

Given this all GG's comments about tea dances, treating the girls well etc are spot on and are excellent advice. There is a lot of fun to be had out there on a Sunday.

HAve fun.

CT.


Hi Board:

I just released my maid in SG (filipina). So let me clarify the "rules" a bit. There is a set minimum for wages and yes, it varies based on ethnicity. For filpinas, it is a mimimum of 600 SGD / month plus room and board. My maid had her own room, some maids share with the kids. The maids get each Sunday and each public holiday off (so weekly one day off. I had to take a course to learn the rules before getting a maid, one day off per week is mandatory now). The maids generally have to be back by 7PM on Sunday night, but the employer can let them stay out longer. Do maids fool around with the employers. Well yes, but if you get caught, there is a large fine to the employer. So smart employer's don't do that. The medical checkups are pregnancy and STDs other than HIV twice a year and HIV once a year.

In terms of the "scene" in SG for the maids, the filipinas frequent Lucky Plaza (Sunday is the day they send $ home) and OT for tea dances. I have had luck at LP in the past, just walking around and smiling broadly. If you get a big smile back. Stop and say Hi, introduce yourself. Then take it from there. Don't start out "want to go back to my place". They can be shy, but if you offer them coffee, to go to OT for a bit of dancing, a meal (the food is not expensive and remember. They don't generally cook Filipino food at their place of work, LP has some Filipino restaurants). You can make inroads fast. These girls are like any others. They want to be appreciated and treated like women. They get to LP early. 9-10am, and the place is packed. So walk around, look around, say Hi, smile. Filipinas are very friendly. This can work. The Indo maids hang out elsewhere, but I don't recall. I'm not certain about the maids from other places. Sorry can't help there. But suspect the Indian maids may go to Little India where there are lots of places to eat, congregate, shop, etc.

OT. Go to a tea dance. You say you don't know anyone or you are going alone. Not a problem Get out and dance. Just jump into the crowd and dance. The filpina maids love it. And will dance and socialize with you. That is your opening. Buy a pitcher of beer AND get some ICE (they put ice in their beer, even better, it goes further cause a pitcher might be 20-25SGD). And again, don't be crude. I was hanging with a group of 3 maids recently. Had been standing out front of OT waiting for my pal, they walked by to go in, got a BIG smile from one of them. Saw she went into a first floor dance. My pal arrived, we went into the same place. And she and her friends found me and my buddy. We had a great time. But. One of the girls was upset. Cause some guy had come up to her and said "I'll give you 50 bucks for a BJ". She started yelling at him "I'm not a working girl". Now, that was funny, but shows you, don't be crude.

Another place to find filipina maids is Plaza Singapura. Get a starbucks, sit outside the place (large covered seating area) and just wait. Smile, use your phone, look around. They congregate there. Big smiles = interest. Say Hi, introduce yourself. You have nothing to lose by being nice. It does work.

And. The filipinas are clean to a "T". So, if you go back. TAKE A SHOWER, they will. And clean all cracks and crevices. Even the ones you may normally miss. The girls I have been with appreicated a clean man. And they are very clean (yes, there are exceptions). But since SG (and PHIL) is hot and humid. 30 mins outside = stinky bodies. So clean up, and fresh breath (these girls won't kiss you until they have brushed their teeth). So. Keep an extra toothbrush around (I always have a couple of disposable ones). And as pointed out. No BB. Pretty much none of these girls is on birth control and many have no real understanding of their cycle, contraception, etc. And remember. If they get pregnant, they go home. And they need the work to support their families. So be considerate.

Enjoy Singapore.

GG.

I'm sure other members that spend more time in SG can give better / other advice. But that's my experience.

Econo Tech
02-13-11, 09:30
There is no minimum wage. There are many many filipina maids earning less than $600 per month. Ignore the Philippines Embassy standard contract or what it said on the course. Filipina's working for Chinese families (I. E. The majority) usually get 450. 500. Bear this in mind when you agree any 'tip'.The Fil OFW thingy is to offset the increased levy they are screwing out of the maids when they go abroad. And serves nobody other than the FIl Govt.

Matter of fact, it is not unfair when the employers are so scared to give day off for maid. Considering the number of freebies I have screwed in Orchard Tower and LP. Before I decide to sober. And honestly. 9 out of 10 refused to fuck with rubber. Well, it's ok to screw somebody's maid, but when you think what your maid is upto, it is a reality check.

The govt bond for maids is a serious deterrent, though you can get an insurance to cover the bond, still it can mean a hell of a lot of pain when the maid gets pregnant or catches some silly sickness / runs away.

Cheers

Fatboy 1980
02-13-11, 12:15
I've been to Singapore a few times, but I've never mongered there. I'm going there next week and I want to know what the P4P scene is before 6pm. Are there any decent massage places that offer full service?

I looked at Laksaboy. Org and there seems to be a lot of outcall services with hot girls. Has anyone tried these services?

Cheers

Geneva Guy
02-13-11, 13:01
Hi CT and ET.

Thanks for the corrections, no wonder my maid loved me so much, paid her better and treated her as a human being. Heheheeh. Actually I took the lead from my Chinese friends who also gave their maid one day a week off. But appreciate your clarifications. As for Topmanten. My advice to find maids is to 1) sign up for tagged (many of the filipinas in SG on that are maids) and 2) attend the tea parties and other spots that I noted in my post. While I have found it useful to set things up ahead of time. Impromptu has worked wonderfully for me also (see my past posts about my great pickup of 2 girls in LP on a Tuesday afternoon. That was a 2 week on / off fling and lots of fun). I currently don't have any contacts for maids. The ones that I know have either left or really were not that interested in playtime (mostly interested in a husband).

Yes, I am an expat who lived in public housing (yep, my neighbors would look at me on the elevator and say "you live HERE") but that is what I prefer. I travel in and out of SG so having a maid was a good practical thing for me to watch my place. And she was honest to a "T". Back home in Manilla now. But. I'm heading back to Sg end of February. And she's going to meet me there for some "non. Employer" fun. I can't wait. So it all worked out! And now that I have a "corporate apartment" to use. We'll have nice accomodations, so a treat for her, she is a sweetie.

Let me also bring the board up to date on "now and then " pub on Anson Road (right next to a 7-11). They cleaned it up, its still a BMD filipina bar, but was a lot nicer, cleaner and more fun when I was there in December. But take out can be done. But not till about 2-3am, yikes, pretty late for me. Try NINE bar which is nearby where you can get action IN the bar (BJs, HJs, kissing, and in the back rooms, an occassional fuck). But, the girls are filipina and "lower quality", but still slutty and lots of fun, hahahahahahaha. I have posted on NINE bar about a month or so ago so check the posts for the street. You can get take out at 3am or set something up during the days with the girls. Very slutty. But like I said, not everyone's cup of tea.

Enjoy Singapore.

GG

Mc Don
02-13-11, 16:59
Guys THANK YOU for all the posts and insight into the maid scene. Great, great info there. Just out of curiosity beside their day off do they get any other time off say after 10 pm or something like that? LOL probably no but no harm in asking, I guess everything needs to happen within the day by 7pm or wait next month? Hm.

What time do they get to OT or lucky plaza? 9-10am according to one of the posts is this with 80-90% of them? I will be staying at the york hotel so I can walk down but I don't want to get there too early or too late.

My preference is philipinas but would like to have a crack at indian or indos. Are they as easy going as the philipinas? Few times I have had success from OT and as per the report around 6-6. 30 the girls just bolt. Now I know why. I sort of always assumed the get up to around midnight. Now I will move faster instead drinking and suggesting for them to come back to my hotel around 4-5. Does anyone know where do we look for the working girls hanging around Insomnia during the day? I always assumed they are nannies by day working girls from time to time at night. This by the sounds of it doesn't seem to be the case. So where do they hang around would be the next quest for day time fun.

Raverboy
02-14-11, 05:31
Guys THANK YOU for all the posts and insight into the maid scene. Great, great info there. Just out of curiosity beside their day off do they get any other time off say after 10 pm or something like that? LOL probably no but no harm in asking, I guess everything needs to happen within the day by 7pm or wait next month? Hm...McDon, Topmanten,

As a Singaporean I am pleased that you are mongering in my country and contributing to the local economy, but seriously. If you're into Pinays that much, why not just get on a cheap Cebu Pacific flight (approx. 3 hrs) to the motherlode and get all the pinay pussy you want without the hassle of having to catch maids on their 1 day off a month or week at Lucky Plaza?

Cheers.

Econo Tech
02-14-11, 06:47
I've been to Singapore a few times, but I've never mongered there. I'm going there next week and I want to know what the P4P scene is before 6pm. Are there any decent massage places that offer full service?

I looked at Laksaboy. Org and there seems to be a lot of outcall services with hot girls. Has anyone tried these services?

CheersLaksa boy and sammy boy. Yes, the take outs are good and as advertised. When it comes to non-locals.

The locals. Half are malaysian masquerading as locals and the rest. Not worth the 4 figure amount they demand. Did it once and was a mega disappointment.

GoodEnough
02-14-11, 12:50
Well, one reason might be that Singapore is one of the great cities of the world and the entire country of the Philippines represents the opposite end of the spectrum. One is a vibrant, alive, cultured and exciting place, and the other is just a third world hole with but one attraction, which, believe me, is not enough to sustain the spirit day to day. Tell you what though, if you ever want to swap for a few weeks to test this hypothesis, it would take me less than a heartbeat to answer in the affirmative.

GE.


McDon, Topmanten,

As a Singaporean I am pleased that you are mongering in my country and contributing to the local economy, but seriously. If you're into Pinays that much, why not just get on a cheap Cebu Pacific flight (approx. 3 hrs) to the motherlode and get all the pinay pussy you want without the hassle of having to catch maids on their 1 day off a month or week at Lucky Plaza?

Cheers.

Mc Don
02-14-11, 16:25
McDon, Topmanten,

As a Singaporean I am pleased that you are mongering in my country and contributing to the local economy, but seriously. If you're into Pinays that much, why not just get on a cheap Cebu Pacific flight (approx. 3 hrs) to the motherlode and get all the pinay pussy you want without the hassle of having to catch maids on their 1 day off a month or week at Lucky Plaza?

Cheers. I monger in Phil 7-8 times a year. Trips already planned for March, May, July and September and this is in a year where most of my business will be in europe rather then Australia. Singapore use to be my fav mongering place before the crackdown because of the variety of women. Before I could find better looking indian chicks in Singapore then in india proper (talking WG here) , same for indos. The best use to come to Singapore and HK for the money. These days Singapore is a stop over for me or at times a business destination. Regardless though I still like to party, and the maid scene is sort of exciting because it adds the element of the chase. Its not your typical p4p as you locals know. Like I said I have had luck scoring freebies and just wanted to know how things worked. This time around I am cumming over for business and one of my mates decided to have his bucks party in sing over the weekend so I have to spend a weekend in sing, otherwise I would have been on the cebu flight or the BKK latter in the evening. By the way Tiger takes you to AC direct from Singapore, jetstar use to but now it only flys to Manila and yes, the 4pm cebu pacific flight was perfect especially if you were on a cheap Air Asia flight to kl then kl-sing so that you can get to phil on the same day.

GoodEnough is also right in what he says about Singapore one of the greatest places on earth. Will disagree with him regarding manila, makati especially. I don't mind it. Maybe because I only visit and usually 10-12 days at a time but hey for me both places are fun. You just need to work out how to get the maximum out of each, hence why this forum is great thanks to unselfish locals that are willing to answer sometimes stupid and mundane questions, I hope you all realize how much help you are to us, the visitors. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN.

Topmanten
02-14-11, 16:49
Thanks a lot to all of you on maids pickup action. Could any one of you were able to score LT with lp maids? If yes how much the normal rate for Lt as well as St.

Some one please post some nice photo.


Well, one reason might be that Singapore is one of the great cities of the world and the entire country of the Philippines represents the opposite end of the spectrum. One is a vibrant, alive, cultured and exciting place, and the other is just a third world hole with but one attraction, which, believe me, is not enough to sustain the spirit day to day. Tell you what though, if you ever want to swap for a few weeks to test this hypothesis, it would take me less than a heartbeat to answer in the affirmative.

GE.

Raverboy
02-15-11, 03:07
Well, one reason might be that Singapore is one of the great cities of the world and the entire country of the Philippines represents the opposite end of the spectrum. One is a vibrant, alive, cultured and exciting place, and the other is just a third world hole with but one attraction, which, believe me, is not enough to sustain the spirit day to day. Tell you what though, if you ever want to swap for a few weeks to test this hypothesis, it would take me less than a heartbeat to answer in the affirmative.

GE. GE: LOL Thanks for the offer but funnily enough that's the exact reason ('third world hole with but one attraction') why the Philippines offers such an attraction to me . It allows me to shed that sanitized conformist role and be free of societal expectations. Your compliments are not undeserving however, but in all honesty a little over-rated. You need a pink NRIC, a red passport and make CPF contributions to know Singapore beyond its surface, which is presumably as much as you know in order to have such a hypothesis.

Econo Tech
02-15-11, 07:48
Thanks a lot to all of you on maids pickup action. Could any one of you were able to score LT with lp maids? If yes how much the normal rate for Lt as well as St.

Some one please post some nice photo.Come on mate, you are being a killjoy-

Stop comparing maids with ST / LT and then asking for pictures. If you want pretty girls. Stick to FLs. If you don't mind the not-so-hot lookers, and want GFE, like the chase, sometimes lasting a few weeks before the door opens. Head for maids. If you are talking of serious $. Stay away from maids.

Cheers

AussieGaigin
02-15-11, 23:25
Might be difficult to get a maid for LT, as most of them have to be back home by about 7 PM.

Why does Topmanten continue with his ideology that all maids are out looking for "customers" on Sunday. The majority go out to the tea parties primarily to socialise with their friends; if you can manage to score one for a bit of fun then you are lucky. You probably need some "charm skills" to pull this off, Topmanten seems to lack in this area.

Econo Tech
02-16-11, 03:56
Might be difficult to get a maid for LT, as most of them have to be back home by about 7 PM.

Why does Topmanten continue with his ideology that all maids are out looking for "customers" on Sunday. The majority go out to the tea parties primarily to socialise with their friends; if you can manage to score one for a bit of fun then you are lucky. You probably need some "charm skills" to pull this off, Topmanten seems to lack in this area. I may be wrong, but I feel Topmanten (maybe he should start with Top Ten. Oops. Top 5) is looking for low cost sex or the fantasy of screwing maids.

As from my experience, I have had extreme dry spells and no go for few weeks, as the girls want to get to know you etc. Etc. . And then a sudden deluge of requests to meet up. Spend some 'private' time etc.

And then a few trying to throw scams that they suspect they got preg, forgetting that I slipped in a postinol before the dead (if I am tempted to go bare back, I get Postinol and then tell the girls what it is. Or tell them. It is to make them happy. Sorry. I am not out to make them sick, but the postinol is from a doctor. Not from a quack.).

And some will suddenly remember that their child needs schooling admission fee etc. Etc. .

So. If you are on a wham, bham, thank you ma'am mission, stick to FLs. Maids- you may have weekends of no action and then a lot of interest. And. End of the month / first week of the month brings out a lot of maids (as they got paid) but then they are in no mood to waste their time with a looser like you (oops. Didn't mean it) and prefer quality time with their friends. And so and so. . .

Cheers

BionicMan
02-16-11, 08:58
Might be difficult to get a maid for LT, as most of them have to be back home by about 7 PM.

Why does Topmanten continue with his ideology that all maids are out looking for "customers" on Sunday. The majority go out to the tea parties primarily to socialise with their friends; if you can manage to score one for a bit of fun then you are lucky. You probably need some "charm skills" to pull this off, Topmanten seems to lack in this area. Sometime people come here with different missions and agendas.

Look at some posts from same gentleman in another asian area and you will see what I mean.

As much as we monger and pay for sex, the majority of us still has a degree of respect for the ladies (paid or not paid).

Where is there is a majority, it means there is a minority too.

Some belong to the majority and some belong to the minority.

Reading through (and through the lines too) helps in assigning each one to his group.

Hotman 666
02-16-11, 11:53
I would appreciate a little help from you guys.

I will be in Singapore very soon for a short visit.

Already booked a hotel near O. T. (Thanks to those who gave me hotel suggestions.)

Will try the O. T. Clubs at least one night but, as I have to get up rather early most mornings. For meetings, I would like to know where I may find some 'pleasant company' during the late afternoons or early evenings?

I have no objections to freelancers or even 'street meat' if the quality is reasonable.

I'm not looking for 'a perfect 10. ' An enthusiastic girl next door type would be just fine.

All suggestions will be gratefully received.

Hotman.

Topmanten
02-16-11, 13:01
Thanks all of you. Noted, but the real situation is some thing else.

From experience I know well that if we can get a maid to bed, she will be super hot 10/10 in bed, because only that type will go to hotel with a total stranger in 20-30 min after first meet.

More over she will be in that city for a longer time than normal wg. During the next visit, if you keep maintain the contact over ph or mail, she will be there waiting for you for lt, even by taking leave from her regular job! Then it will be a real GFE, it is almost free to cll sing / hk with freecalldotcom.

Next point she will be fresh, lower wearandtear compared to wg, and less prone to disease.

All this plus point, is in favor for me to seek maids over wg, of course I respect them and pay them, it is not like some one mentioned here. Have a look at some photoreports of me in hk photo gall.

Will post some more maids photos in hk shortly.

Y

Flyboy 2000
02-16-11, 14:55
From experience I know well that if we can get a maid to bed, she will be super hot 10/10 in bed, because only that type will go to hotel with a total stranger in 20-30 min after first meet.You reckon? I've had two maids, and while one was indeed passionate and up-for-it, the other was average at best. So I don't think that her eagerness to jump into bed is a direct reflection on her abilities in bed.

Econo Tech
02-17-11, 06:37
My cents.


From experience I know well that if we can get a maid to bed, she will be super hot 10/10 in bed, because only that type will go to hotel with a total stranger in 20-30 min after first meet.You are wrong. I lost count, but when I could say that I have screwed maids, in the early 3 figure numbers in the last ten years. I could be wrong in saying that.


More over she will be in that city for a longer time than normal wg. During the next visit, if you keep maintain the contact over ph or mail, she will be there waiting for you for lt, even by taking leave from her regular job! Then it will be a real GFE, it is almost free to cll sing / hk with freecalldotcom.I see. Thanks for that line of thought.


Next point she will be fresh, lower wearandtear compared to wg, and less prone to disease.Yah right. Most WGs nowadays insist on Rubber. Out of the 99% of maids don't request rubber and then atleast half of them ripped off the rubber in the midst of the action saying they can't feel shit. And want the sperm all inside them. Kinky and dirty sex? I only had that with maids. And you call them less prone to disease? You got to be kidding.

And for wear and tear? The maids that are easy to pick up are those who are not two timing, but multi-timing. I could easy count atleast 50 odd maids who, while screwing me on the sly, had a nepaly BF, and / or Bangladesh BF, and some were also sleeping with their employer. No. It was not a boast. I even had the chance to witness one those girls, in East Coast Park, go into a tent and after a while come out, looking for tissue and when the nepaly guy took off, she called her Candadian BF and then she adjourned to the tent again. And nowhere did I see her heading to the toilet to wash up. No kidding. Unless you swear they were reading the Cartoons when inside the tent. And hell yeah, I refused to screw them and added them to my do-not-call list and find excuses when I am asked if they can drop by my place.

And the easier the maid is, when they get tipsy, you can not only hear their exploits of how many men they have screwed, I had a few who even had pictures of guys they had screwed. Ranging from Americans, to Norweigiens to Swedish to English to even Africans and it was a new discovery and adventure for them- No kidding. And nowadays few maids do carry their own laptops / net books and the right amount of liquor can bring out their 'collection'


All this plus point, is in favor for me to seek maids over wg, of course I respect them and pay them, it is not like some one mentioned here.You miss the point. When you talk of 'paying' maids switch into working girl mode. Maybe in HK it is different but 99. 9% I can vouch for that when it comes to Singapore.

Maybe you can dispute me. But when I have clocked atleast a year working in bars, and having the best location to pick up the story-lines. I could still prove you wrong. . Plus living around Orchard ensured that every Saturday, Sunday and public holiday, I started my Chivas chasing by 2 pm or earlier, just nice to pick up the right one to buzz off by 3 or 4 Pm to release the girl and then head for the next one to seek.

Cheers mate.

AussieGaigin
02-17-11, 12:21
From experience I know well that if we can get a maid to bed, she will be super hot 10/10 in bed, because only that type will go to hotel with a total stranger in 20-30 min after first meet.

Y"Experience"?

A couple of posts back you were asking questions like:

"From where one can pick up maids on saterday / Sunday tea dance, and what is the modes operandy"?

And.

"tell me some thing more parlimentry opening sentence to a girl!"

Like I said before you need "charm skills" to get a maid into bed, and you don't seem to even know how to start.

Topmanten
02-17-11, 15:11
Learning is a continues life long process, I am always open to learn / take advice from others, who are more experienced than me, nothing wrong in it, and I may follow it, if I feel that is good, thats why I asked for more suggestions and I got some positive points.


"Experience"?

A couple of posts back you were asking questions like:

"From where one can pick up maids on saterday / Sunday tea dance, and what is the modes operandy"?

And.

"tell me some thing more parlimentry opening sentence to a girl!"

Like I said before you need "charm skills" to get a maid into bed, and you don't seem to even know how to start.

FreebieFan
02-17-11, 15:47
Next point she will be fresh, lower wearandtear compared to wg, and less prone to disease.

All this plus point, is in favor for me to seek maids over wg, of course I respect them and pay them, it is not like some one mentioned here. Have a look at some photoreports of me in hk photo gall.

Will post some more maids photos in hk shortly.

YI've also done many helpers in HK (by the way, they prefer to call themselves helpers in HK ). But clearly your pics there and your comments about one girl being akin to a 14 year old girl set of a firestorm of comments. Remember were all talking about girls of 18 and OVER here.

Topmanten
02-19-11, 15:42
So on Saturdays and Sundays you are still chasing the maids, so there must be some reason for it than normal wg.

That's my point.

It is simple and clear.


My cents.

You are wrong. I lost count, but when I could say that I have screwed maids, in the early 3 figure numbers in the last ten years. I could be wrong in saying that.

I see. Thanks for that line of thought.

Yah right. Most WGs nowadays insist on Rubber. Out of the 99% of maids don't request rubber and then atleast half of them ripped off the rubber in the midst of the action saying they can't feel shit. And want the sperm all inside them. Kinky and dirty sex? I only had that with maids. And you call them less prone to disease? You got to be kidding.

And for wear and tear? The maids that are easy to pick up are those who are not two timing, but multi-timing. I could easy count atleast 50 odd maids who, while screwing me on the sly, had a nepaly BF, and / or Bangladesh BF, and some were also sleeping with their employer. No. It was not a boast. I even had the chance to witness one those girls, in East Coast Park, go into a tent and after a while come out, looking for tissue and when the nepaly guy took off, she called her Candadian BF and then she adjourned to the tent again. And nowhere did I see her heading to the toilet to wash up. No kidding. Unless you swear they were reading the Cartoons when inside the tent. And hell yeah, I refused to screw them and added them to my do-not-call list and find excuses when I am asked if they can drop by my place.

And the easier the maid is, when they get tipsy, you can not only hear their exploits of how many men they have screwed, I had a few who even had pictures of guys they had screwed. Ranging from Americans, to Norweigiens to Swedish to English to even Africans and it was a new discovery and adventure for them- No kidding. And nowadays few maids do carry their own laptops / net books and the right amount of liquor can bring out their 'collection'

You miss the point. When you talk of 'paying' maids switch into working girl mode. Maybe in HK it is different but 99. 9% I can vouch for that when it comes to Singapore.

Maybe you can dispute me. But when I have clocked atleast a year working in bars, and having the best location to pick up the story-lines. I could still prove you wrong. . Plus living around Orchard ensured that every Saturday, Sunday and public holiday, I started my Chivas chasing by 2 pm or earlier, just nice to pick up the right one to buzz off by 3 or 4 Pm to release the girl and then head for the next one to seek.

Cheers mate.

Ebauche
02-19-11, 22:06
So on Saturdays and Sundays you are still chasing the maids, so there must be some reason for it than normal wg.

That's my point.

It is simple and clear. Unless you're in SIN frequently and for the long haul, maids/helpers are an economically losing proposition. They'll end up costing as much or more than WGs. AND they will come with potentially significant emotional and psychotic (yes, psychotic, not psychological) baggage. Pinay maids get very clingy very fast and can be hard to shake. And the advice re relative STD risk with maids is spot on, not to mention the risk of unwanted pregnancy. That can be bad for you and economically devastating for them - you get potential child support if they pursue it aggresively enough and they get deported.

Frankly you're going to get better sack time by carefully choosing a girl from OT that you actually seem to click with. There's no guarantee, but RTFF, explore the happy hallowed hunting grounds and take the plunge. I've found some real gems in OT, almost all from Ipanema. Some duds too, but overall satisfying.

Another option is Geylang. Won't be GFE, but it will be good.

There's also laksaboy dot org. Excellent venue for online stables of good VFM girls that offer clear service menus at decent prices. Good for morning / lunch trysts especially.

Now, you've prety much gotten as much info as there is to be had vis-a-vis maids. Let it rest, other than to pay back and report on your success or failure.

Econo Tech
02-20-11, 12:45
So on Saturdays and Sundays you are still chasing the maids, so there must be some reason for it than normal wg.

That's my point.

It is simple and clear.Correction: I don't' go chasing them. If they fall into my laps, I am happy. I don't go out with a plan to snare one. And when I got a lot of free time, it is ok. Otherwise, the stress and headache is more. Sometimes. .

Means anything?

Some reason other than WG? Well, nothing I can think of other than the thrill and the chance of having a longer term fuck girl. Unlike WGs who appear on monthly pass. Then again, maids have also turned into headache. If you know pinays, they will stake their territory and notify all other girls that you are beyond reach. And there goes your chance to rustle up any more feather in that bar. And time to move to another bar.

PS: more or less Ebauche has summed it up.

Drfel
02-20-11, 13:04
Unless you're in SIN frequently and for the long haul, maids / helpers are an economically losing proposition. They'll end up costing as much or more than WGs. AND they will come with potentially significant emotional and psychotic (yes, psychotic, not psychological) baggage. Pinay maids get very clingy very fast and can be hard to shake. And the advice re relative STD risk with maids is spot on, not to mention the risk of unwanted pregnancy. That can be bad for you and economically devastating for them. You get potential child support if they pursue it aggresively enough and they get deported.

Frankly you're going to get better sack time by carefully choosing a girl from OT that you actually seem to click with. There's no guarantee, but RTFF, explore the happy hallowed hunting grounds and take the plunge. I've found some real gems in OT, almost all from Ipanema. Some duds too, but overall satisfying.

Another option is Geylang. Won't be GFE, but it will be good.

There's also laksaboy dot org. Excellent venue for online stables of good VFM girls that offer clear service menus at decent prices. Good for morning / lunch trysts especially.

Now, you've prety much gotten as much info as there is to be had vis-a-vis maids. Let it rest, other than to pay back and report on your success or failure.This is something I have had to deal with, I met a very nice Fillipa maid at a tea dance and had a great time and saw her again on the way back through 6weeks later, but she really was clingy and I was getting calls for ages afterwards.

I would advise being up front with them and offer pay for play other wise you will be breaking hearts and thats not good.

Apac Man
02-20-11, 19:25
Unless you're in SIN frequently and for the long haul, maids/helpers are an economically losing proposition. They'll end up costing as much or more than WGs. AND they will come with potentially significant emotional and psychotic (yes, psychotic, not psychological) baggage. Pinay maids get very clingy very fast and can be hard to shake. ....I tried this only once and will never do it again. I took the girl once for maybe 2 hours more or less and I got 100's (not kidding) SMS afterward saying that she was In Love With me and She can not live without me. Talk about the stress and frustration.

Be Safe,

APAC Man

Econo Tech
02-21-11, 06:09
I tried this only once and will never do it again. I took the girl once for maybe 2 hours more or less and I got 100's (not kidding) SMS afterward saying that she was In Love With me and She can not live without me. Talk about the stress and frustration.

Be Safe,

APAC ManTo rub it in. I even had maids who threatened to commit suicide. Though by then I had become wiser and smarter. Ooops. The trick didn't work. Though I did find some guys who had been mentally stressed with the girl threatening to wander around Geylang to be picked up etc. Etc. And I know atleast one guy who ran like hell to find the girl was probably laughing her heart out when she found out that she fell for her ruse. And she was at home.

And to make it worse? The worst trick I saw a maid (so called Dumb maid) do was, divert her part time bf's phone to another girls phone and when he was getting calls, without his knowledge, even his office calls were getting diverted and all silly stuff.

One more guy. When he was with his wife, in Orchard, the maid saw him and started throwing tantrum. Talk of embarrassment.

Destruction? Well, if you have the heart for it. GO FOR IT man.

If you have lot of patience and always want to live to screw another day. Maids will do.

Pay and play is better most of the times.

Apac Man
02-22-11, 01:47
To rub it in. I even had maids who threatened to commit suicide. Though by then I had become wiser and smarter. Ooops. The trick didn't work. Though I did find some guys who had been mentally stressed with the girl threatening to wander around Geylang to be picked up etc. Etc. And I know atleast one guy who ran like hell to find the girl was probably laughing her heart out when she found out that she fell for her ruse. And she was at home.

And to make it worse? The worst trick I saw a maid (so called Dumb maid) do was, divert her part time bf's phone to another girls phone and when he was getting calls, without his knowledge, even his office calls were getting diverted and all silly stuff.

One more guy. When he was with his wife, in Orchard, the maid saw him and started throwing tantrum. Talk of embarrassment.

Destruction? Well, if you have the heart for it. GO FOR IT man.

If you have lot of patience and always want to live to screw another day. Maids will do.

Pay and play is better most of the times. Yes and probably there are thousands more similar stories around. After this incident, as Michael Jackson had said,"I've talked with the man in the mirror" and made the conclusion that in most cases they are right!

When I go to OT or Gaylang and pick up a WG, there is no misunderstanding. It is a business transaction through which I pay for some services and wham, bam, thank you and it is done and over. She knows what she is doing, I know what I am doing, and there is no gray area. But when I pick up a maid, or as someone someplace else said "cultivating a relationship", there is a lot of gray area. She is hoping for a long term relationship and having a dream of making it out and settling out with a decent man and I am playing into that! I do give her false hopes. She is not a working girl. My payment to her, at least in her mind, is a gift from a boyfriend not a price tag for a f*ck. And of course she get attached and has emotional issues and for most ppart, it is me who caused it.

Oh well, I get off my soapbox now.

Be Safe,

APAC Man (Who still shutters when his phone rings in Singapore)

Snorky2
02-23-11, 20:58
In Singapore last week of March. Which bars in OT should I visit? I will arrive at hotel at 1:30 am. What time are the bars open to? Is Sunday afternoon at OT good for maids? What is lucky plaza? Where can you find Chinese girls? Any other recommendations?

BionicMan
02-23-11, 23:33
In Singapore last week of March. Which bars in OT should I visit? I will arrive at hotel at 1:30 am. What time are the bars open to? Is Sunday afternoon at OT good for maids? What is lucky plaza? Where can you find Chinese girls? Any other recommendations?What about RTFF?

Econo Tech
02-24-11, 03:49
What about RTFF?Let me help him out.

Which bars in OT should I visit?

The bars in OT.

I will arrive at hotel at 1:30 am. What time are the bars open to?

Most close by 2. Though some open till 5 or 6.

Is Sunday afternoon at OT good for maids?

Well, no, Wednesday is the best day for maids.

What is lucky plaza?

Lucky Plaza is a plaza called Lucky.

Where can you find Chinese girls?

In China?

Any other recommendations.

Got ya. RTF.

Cheers

IwantMyMTV
02-25-11, 10:18
Gentlemen,

I had posted earlier on this thread, got some help and advice from fellow mongers. Reaching Singapore as a part of a large group coming Tuesday. Realized that even if the hotels are GF. I would not want to risk it. Group comprises of people from work.

Would appreciate if I could get hold of some reliable incall services. Was trying to get to something through internet search but most of the stuff published is for out calls.

Looking forward to get some help here.

Regards.

Pita123
02-25-11, 11:32
Is Sunday afternoon at OT good for maids?

Well, no, Wednesday is the best day for maids. Sure it ain't payday?

BionicMan
02-25-11, 19:09
Gentlemen,

I had posted earlier on this thread, got some help and advice from fellow mongers. Reaching Singapore as a part of a large group coming Tuesday. Realized that even if the hotels are GF. I would not want to risk it. Group comprises of people from work.

Would appreciate if I could get hold of some reliable incall services. Was trying to get to something through internet search but most of the stuff published is for out calls.

Looking forward to get some help here.

Regards. Go to' OT with your passport (original)

Pick up a girl there and tell her you can't take her back to your hotel as you share a room with a collegue (that cuts the story short)

She will know a few ST hotel nearby OT.

And report back here!

Ebauche
02-26-11, 05:46
Gentlemen,

I had posted earlier on this thread, got some help and advice from fellow mongers. Reaching Singapore as a part of a large group coming Tuesday. Realized that even if the hotels are GF. I would not want to risk it. Group comprises of people from work.

Would appreciate if I could get hold of some reliable incall services. Was trying to get to something through internet search but most of the stuff published is for out calls.

Looking forward to get some help here.

Regards. Get a local SIM card. Go to laksaboy dot org. There is a collection of OKTs (pimps) offering incall at hotels all over the city. Pick your girl, text the OKT, make an appointment, get the address, get a taxi and off you go. Pics are always the actual girl, although usuallyba bit photoshopped. Rates are good and menus are clear. Mostly Thais.

Hotman 666
02-26-11, 12:07
Where to find an afternoon "playmate?"

I posted this before but no replies.

Now get into Sing in a couple of days.

Any tips?

Hotman.

=======================================

Late afternoons / Early evenings?

I would appreciate a little help from you guys.

I will be in Singapore very soon for a short visit.

Already booked a hotel near O. T. (Thanks to those who gave me hotel suggestions.)

Will try the O. T. Clubs at least one night but, as I have to get up rather early most mornings for meetings,

I would like to know where I may find some 'pleasant company' during the late afternoons or early evenings?

I have no objections to freelancers or even 'street meat' if the quality is reasonable.

I'm not looking for 'a perfect 10. ' An enthusiastic girl next door type would be just fine.

All suggestions will be gratefully received.

Hotman.

Econo Tech
02-26-11, 17:08
Sure it ain't payday?Sure you didn't pick my sarcasm?

Bionicman. Nowadays, a few OT girls want to catch guys who are in hotel rooms, instead of ST rooms, as ST hotels are strictly enforcing the two IC rule, and if a girl checks in more than once, she is refused entry in to the hotel chain (say any 81 or any fragrance.)

Also helps lower the price I guess, as girls will become not so demanding, knowing ST may not work.

BionicMan
02-26-11, 19:20
Sure you didn't pick my sarcasm?

Bionicman. Nowadays, a few OT girls want to catch guys who are in hotel rooms, instead of ST rooms, as ST hotels are strictly enforcing the two IC rule.

Also helps lower the price I guess, as girls will become not so demanding, knowing ST may not work. Good to know, that is why I had the following experience:

As I had photocopy only, the girl decided we go to another hotel, a bit dodgy but still ok. There she produced her (Thai) passport and we got out ST room.

Two nights later I brought my original passport along so we went to 81. My passport only was ok and we got the room. The hotel has legitimate guests and were given a "stand by" room (probably a way to describe ST rooms without being too obvious) located in the ground floor, a few steps away from reception. Room was far better and hotel a bit closer to OT than the other one.

Now I see why MY (original) passport was needed: so the girl did not get registered and her (multiple) stays recorded.

Since when is this enforced?

I can see the good point in the price negotiation.

Best is to get a price, ask whether they have a ST solution and then "solve" the issue with the idea to go to your hotel with some pay back from the girl.

Econo Tech
02-27-11, 04:21
Best is to get a price, ask whether they have a ST solution and then "solve" the issue with the idea to go to your hotel with some pay back from the girl.The authorities started to ask hotels to enforce the two I'd rule, ever since some girls were caught living and operating their business out of the hotel rooms.

As a matter of fact, H81 and Frag, ask for both IDs, unless the staff was lax, and if the girl has been logged into another of their outlet, they refuse to give a room. No reason given.

Yah, the best idea is to head to your own hotel, unless you too are staying in H81, which the girl has visited during the day. .

Sugoi
02-28-11, 09:45
Crap! I just spent about an hour typing up some stuff to post based on my 4 days in SG a few weeks ago and when I clicked submit, I lost it all. I know, I've seen the warning from Jackson about not losing the long reports but I forgot about it.

It was about what I learned my first time in SG in Little India, Geylang and the 4 floors of working girls. I'll see if I can find time later.

Snorky2
02-28-11, 21:21
What is the going rates for short term and long term at OT? What about Prix bar at the Hyatt? Is Lucky Plaza a good place for maids on Sunday afternoons? Any other places I should try?

BionicMan
02-28-11, 22:11
What is the going rates for short term and long term at OT? What about Prix bar at the Hyatt? Is Lucky Plaza a good place for maids on Sunday afternoons? Any other places I should try?How many pages did you read here?

How come do you know about Lucky Plaza and sundays' afternoon?

A place you should try is the confort of your home few days prior your trip to Singapore and RTFF. That is the best advice

Pita123
02-28-11, 22:39
Sure you didn't pick my sarcasm?I'm certain I did. .

Econo Tech
03-01-11, 04:04
Crap! I just spent about an hour typing up some stuff to post based on my 4 days in SG a few weeks ago and when I clicked submit, I lost it all. I know, I've seen the warning from Jackson about not losing the long reports but I forgot about it.

It was about what I learned my first time in SG in Little India, Geylang and the 4 floors of working girls. I'll see if I can find time later.. Maybe your problem was not a problem at all. Jackson vets the responses.

And yours may appear late.

Geneva Guy
03-04-11, 00:44
Hi Guys.

I'm in SG for a few days. Looking for anyone who would like to go to the Sunday tea dance with me at OT. Its more fun as a couple of guys as the maids come in groups. I'm expecting to get to OT around 130pm Sunday. So, PM me if you are interested and free then. If you come late, I may or may not connect as the dances are really loud and a mobile phone is of limited value in them (at least to me, even on vibrate). May ask some of my local SG pals to come along, they are good guys.

GG

Hotman 666
03-04-11, 08:00
Just finished my first trip to Singapore in several years.

Stayed at a hotel very near O. T.

As I had to get up rather early most mornings for meetings my 'shopping' was confined to the early / mid evening opportunities of O. T. And surrounding area.

Quite a change since my last visit. Then there were many Indonesians, Thais and a few assorted Sing and Malay girls.

Now the majority were Viet, Cambodians, Chinese and Philippine girls with of course, still some Thai, Some local and even a few black. One girl I spoke to was even from Sri Lanka.

My favorite bar was Ipanema up on the 2nd floor (RHS) I am sure that it was in the same location as the old 392 bar of many years ago (Yes, OK, I am an old guy and have some fond memories of that place!)

Had a VERY good session one evening with a young Viet girl from HCM City. I met her outside O. T. Sitting on her own looking rather forlorn.

She had only been in the country 24 hours and it was her first time in Singapore (Yes, I saw her passport.)

She spoke reasonable English and told me that she HATED Singapore and the OT scene and could not wait to go back home.

As I am a 'nice guy' I bought her a can of cola and some Chocolate which she enjoyed and we talked.

After a while she told me she could not stand for the noise and hassle of O. T. Area and preferred quiet places!

Always eager to help I told her that she could watch TV in my room for an hour or so if she wanted.

YES, she wanted so off we go to my room.

WOW, what a great time! She was 22 years old. 1.50 mtr tall, 'just under' 40kg with BEAUTIFUL small tits and smooth, soft skin. A REAL SPINNER!

She was also very grateful for my 'Knight in Shining Amour' approach and was happy to show her gratitude (for around 2 hours) before she took a shower and left me to go back to her room.

She NEVER asked me for money but I was very happy to slip some 'taxi money' into her hand before she left.

My impression was that she will NOT be hanging out at O. T. In the near future so I guess that I was just in the right place at the right time!

Oh well off to BKK today but perhaps Singapore is not too bad a place after all.

Enjoy,

Hotman

Raverboy
03-04-11, 08:05
... The hotel has legitimate guests and were given a "stand by" room (probably a way to describe ST rooms without being too obvious) located in the ground floor, a few steps away from reception. Room was far better and hotel a bit closer to OT than the other one...Actually, by Hotel81 parlance, the term is 'transit room'. Ask for it, they'll know what you want. 2 hr minimum.

Eddylane
03-04-11, 13:42
Just finished my first trip to Singapore in several years.

Stayed at a hotel very near O. T.

As I had to get up rather early most mornings for meetings my 'shopping' was confined to the early / mid evening opportunities of O. T. And surrounding area. .

HotmanJust to echo what Hotman has said, the OT scene is dominated by the South East Asian girls, with many Viets. I had a stunning girl from Hanoi last weekend asking for $400 LT. I walked off and later she came to me asking for $300 (too high?). I am a sucker for good look and sexy body, so I took her back to hotel. We had good but not great sex, and she has a GF feel. Good thing about her is once she settles down, she feels comfortable and in no hurry to leave. I needed to chase her off because of work.

I found her in Ipanema and she said she will be gone in 10 days' time.

Eddy

Tiny 12
03-05-11, 03:28
The authorities started to ask hotels to enforce the two I'd rule, ever since some girls were caught living and operating their business out of the hotel rooms.

As a matter of fact, H81 and Frag, ask for both IDs, unless the staff was lax, and if the girl has been logged into another of their outlet, they refuse to give a room. No reason given.

Yah, the best idea is to head to your own hotel, unless you too are staying in H81, which the girl has visited during the day. . When I showed up at H81 with my Colombian girlfriend-for-the-night and a photocopy of my passport, they wouldn't give us the lower "transit" rate for a few hours, but would have been happy to rent the room all night for 100 SGD. They had no problem using her passport (she had her original) for registration with me being her anonymous guest. So I guess the two ID rule is enforced if you're "transiting", but one is sufficient if you're staying the entire night. Which is I think what Bionicman already said.

BionicMan
03-05-11, 07:04
When I showed up at H81 with my Colombian girlfriend-for-the-night and a photocopy of my passport, they wouldn't give us the lower "transit" rate for a few hours, but would have been happy to rent the room all night for 100 SGD. They had no problem using her passport (she had her original) for registration with me being her anonymous guest. So I guess the two ID rule is enforced if you're "transiting", but one is sufficient if you're staying the entire night. Which is I think what Bionicman already said.don't know exactly if that was my case.

In one hotel she produced her original passport (only) and we got a ST room (for two-three hrs, I can't recall)

In 81 I produced my original passport (only) and we got a ST room (referred as "stand by" by the clerk at reception, do not forget taht was not a ST only hotel!).

That was September last.

Another (mongering) couple was waiting for the room in the lobby. They got their keys and a few mintues later they came back as. The room was occupied. (apparently by another mongering couple) : what a laugh!

FreebieFan
03-05-11, 14:34
She had only been in the country 24 hours and it was her first time in Singapore (Yes, I saw her passport.)

She spoke reasonable English and told me that she HATED Singapore and the OT scene and could not wait to go back home.

As I am a 'nice guy' I bought her a can of cola and some Chocolate which she enjoyed and we talked.

After a while she told me she could not stand for the noise and hassle of O. T. Area and preferred quiet places!

Always eager to help I told her that she could watch TV in my room for an hour or so if she wanted.

YES, she wanted so off we go to my room.

WOW, what a great time! She was 22 years old. 1.50 mtr tall, 'just under' 40kg with BEAUTIFUL small tits and smooth, soft skin. A REAL SPINNER!

She was also very grateful for my 'Knight in Shining Amour' approach and was happy to show her gratitude (for around 2 hours) before she took a shower and left me to go back to her room.

Enjoy,

HotmanMost definately the gentleman approach wins over the "up and at 'them " approach most times, except when dealing with battle hardened pro's when they take you for a sucker in their pricing policy. Good for you for being the nice guy. I find it yields fabulous results most of the time.

Hotman 666
03-06-11, 11:50
Most definitely the gentleman approach wins over the "up and at 'them " approach most times, except when dealing with battle hardened pro's when they take you for a sucker in their pricing policy. Good for you for being the nice guy. I find it yields fabulous results most of the time.Thanks "Freebie fan." You are spot on!

I always find that being a "nice guy" pays dividends with the ladies.

It also seems that in SE Asia the older and uglier I get the more "freebies" I get!

At one time (when I was younger) I thought that the "No Money, No Honey" rule applied in this region but now, at my elevated age, freebies come along ALL THE TIME with little or no effort from me! Life is good to us old guys sometimes, and with surprisingly young and beautiful ladies.

Strange Huh!

Enjoy,

Hotman.

Sugoi
03-06-11, 14:10
. Maybe your problem was not a problem at all. Jackson vets the responses.

And yours may appear late. No, as soon as I submitted it it went to a sign-in screen again. I'll try to post a little today. Won't be much for the Singapore vets but may help some of the people on their first trip.

Sugoi
03-06-11, 14:22
i'll try again to post some of what i did before that didn't make it. as i mentioned, this is what i experienced a few weeks ago as a newbie to the sg scene and is probably common knowledge for the sg vets. this is some of the stuff i wish i knew before i went.

i was in sg with family so only had a couple hours here and there.

first, orchard plaza is different than orchard towers. when i went a couple of years ago, i saw the massage places at orchard plaza so i went to one. it was closer since i was staying at the ritz. the girl was about 26 iirc from singapore and wanted $50 for a hj and claimed that was all she did. this was on the ground floor on the back side of orchard plaza and the entrance was from outside of the building. not bad looking, maybe a 6/10 with c cups.

when i went back this time, i took a walk through bugis street and mustafa center and wound up in little india. based on what i read in the forum, i went to r&r and paid $40 for the 1 hr massage. the therapist was an unattractive, older lady (about 30+) who wanted $50 for a hj. having read someone's remarks about negotiating to $30, i told her i had been there several times and always paid $30 which she accepted.

when i went downstairs, there was a rather attractive girl sitting and reading and i wish i had her instead. i left and continued walking around little india and eventually started walking down serangoon street until i saw a few bars on the left. i walked a couple of more blocks but didn't see anything and turned around back to little india. checked out a few more thai massage places but didn't see anything i was interested in so i called it a night.

the next night i took a train to ajunied looking for geylang. i followed what looked like a working girl out of the ticket gate to the right and then turned left out of the station. however, she stopped for food so i decided to just start walking and look around. i found the neon lights of the hotels and went in that direction.

i ended up on lorong 18 which i heard is the most popular one. prices ranged from $80 to $150 in the places i went and after walking up and down a few, i went to #54 on lorong 18. price was $100 and there were a couple of girls in school girl uniforms.

she was ok looking maybe 6.5/10 and had the usual shower with some teasing, bbbj, cg, mish and then i asked to finish with another bbbj. she let me cim but spit. another shower and she was back in the showroom.

i'm not sure why the pricing is different in the different facilities but i didn't find any of the girls to be better looking in the higher priced ones. but, it was a friday night at about 10pm and it was very crowded. there were over 100 guys walking around lorong 18 and the street that intersects it at #54. maybe the better looking ones were taken.

saturday morning about 10:30am i had a couple of hours so i walked around orchard towers. about 7 or 8 massage places were open but none of the girls interested me but i settled with the place on the 2nd floor at the top of the escalator to the left--across from i panema. i got a 26 or 28 yo thai girl who was about 5'1" and had 2 kids. decent face, about 6/10, little bit of a flabby body but decent performance. she quoted $50 for 30 min for the massage but when i told her other places offered $30 for 30 minutes, she had no problem matching it.

she wanted $200 for fs and $100 for a hj. i couldn't remember the prices people discussed but got her down to $100 for fs. since i wasted some time walking around and looking at all of the places, i didn't have the time to check out other ones so i went with the $100. service was not bad.

that night i went back to the four floors of *****s at about 9pm. i stuck my head in a couple of clubs but not much was going on. i checked out a few of the massage places and was a little put off by all of the lady boys hanging around the 3rd floor. i hear the go to romeo and one other bar so those are ones to avoid unless you're into that.

i ended up getting $30 for a 30 min massage again at a place on the 3rd floor. up the escalator, u-turn to the right, end of the hall and turn left. there was a 5', 45kg girl with her lip pierced who spoke perfect english so i gave her a try. she was from sg and it was nice to finally have a girl who spoke english.

i'm in to spinners so for me she had a perfect body. decent b cups, tiny waist and no fat. nice for a 26yo. she wanted $250 but after telling her she was crazy, we eventually agreed on $100. same bbbj, cg, mish and i eventually had her stand on the floor and lean over the table while i finished from behind. fun girl and would repeat.

i later went to marina bay sands to take a look but i didn't see any wg there. i might have missed them but it is nothing like macau venetian where they are everywhere.

BionicMan
03-07-11, 00:15
At one time (when I was younger) I thought that the "No Money, No Honey" rule applied in this region but now, at my elevated age, freebies come along ALL THE TIME with little or no effort from me! Life is good to us old guys sometimes, and with surprisingly young and beautiful ladies.

Strange Huh!

Enjoy,

Hotman. It is a fact that with asian girls the age of the man is irrelevant, they tend ot prefer old and fat (somehow) or at least this does not represent a problem at all.

Econo Tech
03-07-11, 06:12
When I showed up at H81 with my Colombian girlfriend-for-the-night and a photocopy of my passport, they wouldn't give us the lower "transit" rate for a few hours, but would have been happy to rent the room all night for 100 SGD. They had no problem using her passport (she had her original) for registration with me being her anonymous guest. So I guess the two ID rule is enforced if you're "transiting", but one is sufficient if you're staying the entire night. Which is I think what Bionicman already said.Some hotels in some areas have been barred from ST rates, due to complaints from neighbours about the off-duty girls trolling the neighbourhood.

Two I'd rule is- regardless whether you are ST or LT. The hotels have been warned to stick to renting rooms and not becoming base of operation for hookers.

Sugoi
03-07-11, 08:04
I have another question regarding maids and don't really understand what the draw is to them. Maybe because I live in Manila and have dealt with several maids.

But, every restaurant or mall you go into, there are tons of Filipinas working there and many of them are decent looking. Why not try to pick up these girls instead of waiting for maids on Sundays?

They are probably very open to going on dates with foreigners.

BionicMan
03-07-11, 08:18
I have another question regarding maids and don't really understand what the draw is to them. Maybe because I live in Manila and have dealt with several maids.

But, every restaurant or mall you go into, there are tons of Filipinas working there and many of them are decent looking. Why not try to pick up these girls instead of waiting for maids on Sundays?

They are probably very open to going on dates with foreigners. Maybe the last sentence contains the key point: "probably".

And maybe they do not have free time matching with mongerers so not free at proper time.

Just a thought

Raverboy
03-07-11, 08:22
. when i went back this time, i took a walk through bugis street and mustafa center and wound up in little india. based on what i read in the forum, i went to r&r and paid $40 for the 1 hr massage. the therapist was an unattractive, older lady (about 30+) who wanted $50 for a hj. having read someone's remarks about negotiating to $30, i told her i had been there several times and always paid $30 which she accepted.

i wasnt going to bother commenting but i couldn't help it, now that i read that you live in manila. i'm singaporean but am presently in manila for play.

it boggles my mind why you would pay even a cent for a hj by someone you find unattractive? even at sgd 30, which is approx. php 1000. i mean, would you pay php 1000 in manila for a hj by 'an unattractive, older lady' who initially wanted sgd 50 (php 1700)? if not, why would you agree to it in singapore?

Raverboy
03-07-11, 08:30
I have another question regarding maids and don't really understand what the draw is to them...The only draw to them, let's face it, are from you caucasian / white expats / tourists, who find dark or brown meat 'exotic'. As a Singaporean, I would not want to be seen in public with a Filipina maid, because well, she's a maid. Pardon me, domestic helper. Same applies to Hong Kong, any respectable Hong Kong Chinese wouldn't be caught dead in Wanchai with a domestic helper who moonlights for tricks on her day off.

So shoot me for telling it like it is.

Dreams
03-07-11, 11:11
It is a fact that with asian girls the age of the man is irrelevant, they tend ot prefer old and fat (somehow) or at least this does not represent a problem at all.Why is it that most of the time, the words "old" and "fat" are always associated? I am "old", I have to recognise, but surely not fat, neither "ugly" or "bald" nor "dirty". I am just "old".

And yes, I get fantastic service from many young beautiful girls who seem very happy to spend time with me. This is a general comment, not specific to Singapore.

There is a subgroup of young WGs who love old men more than young ones. You just have to identify them. Wherever I am, I tend to let the girl choose me rather than the opposite. If I spot one that I like, I just stay near enough. If she seems uninterested in me, which happens often, of course, I just move forward until one is. Never been dsiappointed by this strategy.

FreebieFan
03-07-11, 14:52
The only draw to them, let's face it, are from you caucasian / white expats / tourists, who find dark or brown meat 'exotic'. As a Singaporean, I would not want to be seen in public with a Filipina maid, because well, she's a maid. Pardon me, domestic helper. Same applies to Hong Kong, any respectable Hong Kong Chinese wouldn't be caught dead in Wanchai with a domestic helper who moonlights for tricks on her day off.

So shoot me for telling it like it is.Instead you would prefer to be with a white skinned Chinese gal with a big hairy muff. The kind we whiteboys don't take one second look at, as they are not attractive and in most cases in Sing, generally stuck up little prudes who know little else but how to tease. Thank good ness we don't all like the same thing as I'd rather have an " exotic" brown skinned babe who looks great, is friendly, warm, passionate, hot in bed way more than something from a KTV or wherever else you find your hairy muffed white skinned prudes. Give me a real woman everyday instead of a fake. Shoot me back Sunshine.

Gaijin Gigolo
03-07-11, 17:32
The only draw to them, let's face it, are from you caucasian / white expats / tourists, who find dark or brown meat 'exotic'. As a Singaporean, I would not want to be seen in public with a Filipina maid, because well, she's a maid. Pardon me, domestic helper. Same applies to Hong Kong, any respectable Hong Kong Chinese wouldn't be caught dead in Wanchai with a domestic helper who moonlights for tricks on her day off.

So shoot me for telling it like it is. Haha. That's interesting. None of the sweet, charming, lovable Filipinas working here in Singapore want to be seen in public (let alone private) with you racist Singaporeans either. How ironic.

Gaijin Gigolo
03-07-11, 17:43
Had a VERY good session one evening with a young Viet girl from HCM City. I met her outside O. T. Sitting on her own looking rather forlorn.

She had only been in the country 24 hours and it was her first time in Singapore (Yes, I saw her passport.)

She spoke reasonable English and told me that she HATED Singapore and the OT scene and could not wait to go back home.

As I am a 'nice guy' I bought her a can of cola and some Chocolate which she enjoyed and we talked.

After a while she told me she could not stand for the noise and hassle of O. T. Area and preferred quiet places!

Always eager to help I told her that she could watch TV in my room for an hour or so if she wanted.

YES, she wanted so off we go to my room.

WOW, what a great time! She was 22 years old. 1.50 mtr tall, 'just under' 40kg with BEAUTIFUL small tits and smooth, soft skin. A REAL SPINNER!

She was also very grateful for my 'Knight in Shining Amour' approach and was happy to show her gratitude (for around 2 hours) before she took a shower and left me to go back to her room.

She NEVER asked me for money but I was very happy to slip some 'taxi money' into her hand before she left.

My impression was that she will NOT be hanging out at O. T. In the near future so I guess that I was just in the right place at the right time! Thanks for sharing. I discovered the same phenomenon a few years back with some Filipinas hanging around outside OT early one evening. Same story, they didn't want to be there, didn't want to do this, could not afford to stay where they were staying til it was time for them to go get on the plane a week later. Long story short, I ended up buying them dinner and chocs and took them both to my condo that night. The next day they went and got their things and ended up staying with me for an entire week, taking turns shagging me. I fed them food court food and they cooked for me at home at times and left all teary eyed with many thanks and never asked for a cent. I did give them 150 SGD apiece to take home to their families for which they seemed very grateful. I believe there are a fair number of OT girls who would rather not be there and would take you or I up on the chance just to get away from that scene for a few days, for free.

Sugoi
03-07-11, 20:50
i wasnt going to bother commenting but i couldn't help it, now that i read that you live in manila. i'm singaporean but am presently in manila for play.

it boggles my mind why you would pay even a cent for a hj by someone you find unattractive? even at sgd 30, which is approx. php 1000. i mean, would you pay php 1000 in manila for a hj by 'an unattractive, older lady' who initially wanted sgd 50 (php 1700)? if not, why would you agree to it in singapore? i was on holiday. strange urges come when you are getting a massage face-down and the therapist keeps grazing your balls. plus, i live in manila with family so i don't have many chances to get out. i accepted the fact that prices would be more and just went with it.

it's like bars. why would you pay 160php for a beer on burgos when you can go to 7/11 next door and get one for about 21 pesos or go to a restaurant and pay maybe 50 pesos. you already know you're going to pay more and just enjoy it.

Sugoi
03-07-11, 20:52
Maybe the last sentence contains the key point: "probably".

And maybe they do not have free time matching with mongerers so not free at proper time.

Just a thoughtI would think that they are more likely than maids and they have more time. Plus, they are much more attractive, can speak better English and are probably smarter.

Then again, maybe some aren't looking for smarter for a Sunday shag. .

Geneva Guy
03-07-11, 23:03
I love reading about the different opinions on the maids, filipinas, dark skinned women, etc. I am a dark meat guy for sure. And don't discount any of the filipinas, maids or not. Some speak english well, others don't. I absolutely get a kick out of the stares I get from Singaporeans when I am walking with a "maid" hehehe. Makes me stand out more than even being a "big white boy or Ang mo" (did I spell that right?).

Anyway. The report. While no one PMed me about going to the tea dance this past Sunday, had a great time with 2, 28 year old pretties. Nope, didn't get their number (there is a member who asks for the numbers, sorry).

Last nite. Went to Lucky Plaza about 10Pm up the steps to the first floor, turn right walk to the end of the hall (inside the first floor) and then left at the end. The bar is Mya Mar (or something like that). Filipino bar. Really quiet last nite. 2 girls standing out front talking. Saw me and asked if I'd buy them a "lady drink" inside. Told them NOPE, don't do lady drinks. This is a BMD bar, but you can get immediate take away. A cute 4ft 10in girl, Marivel was there, not quite a spinner, a bit chunky but eyes to kill and just that look about her. So I said "how much". She said $150 all night (I'm not an all night guy really, prefer to sleep alone). So took her home. She was quite nervous. But took some time. Then. Got cleaned up and to bed. She was fun, DATY, nice round boobs (36C) and clean smelling pussy. She said "put that in me please". So put on the cover and started. Kept it up for 20 mins or so in all positions. Then blew it. Ahhhh. She was very vocal "fuck me hard, oh shit, keep fucking me, etc.". I sent her on her way with the $ and cab fare. I think the girls at the LP bar are less "commercial" than OT, and looking inside briefly, there was a nice selection.

Anyway. She is short, a bit round, long black hair that is "moussed" and wears white short shorts and a black suede jacket. Marivel Not a bad place to check out

Leaving today. But have to agree with a local buddy. SG has a great selection of girls. For all tastes (guys, found a blond euro sitting at the Orchard parade starbucks and a tall INDIAN girl who works at the Shangri-La hotel as a masseuse, looking for some overtime at the starbucks. She was there at 530pm after her shift smiling broadly and motioning me over to sit with her. But, not my type, but cute for you guys that like indians). That is a story for another day. But she was pretty.

Enjoy SG.

GG

BionicMan
03-08-11, 00:49
Why is it that most of the time, the words "old" and "fat" are always associated? I am "old", I have to recognise, but surely not fat, neither "ugly" or "bald" nor "dirty". I am just "old".

And yes, I get fantastic service from many young beautiful girls who seem very happy to spend time with me. This is a general comment, not specific to Singapore.

There is a subgroup of young WGs who love old men more than young ones. You just have to identify them. Wherever I am, I tend to let the girl choose me rather than the opposite. If I spot one that I like, I just stay near enough. If she seems uninterested in me, which happens often, of course, I just move forward until one is. Never been dsiappointed by this strategy. By western standards an "old" man can stil be ok but less ok if fat.

A non young man having a decent body can stil be attractive to younger ladies / girls.

The combination of old and fat is the "worst" situation, in general, by western standard, let's face it.

As I said this does not seem to be a problem at all in the asian world.

BTW. I am not neither young nor I am a light weight. So I know what I am talking about.

Still have my hair on my (upper) head, but more and more gets in the comb too.

Nevertheless I can't be told I am loosing my hair, as I keep them all in a box, so they are not lost. LMAO

Mondeoman
03-08-11, 00:50
The only draw to them, let's face it, are from you caucasian / white expats / tourists, who find dark or brown meat 'exotic'. As a Singaporean, I would not want to be seen in public with a Filipina maid, because well, she's a maid. Pardon me, domestic helper. Same applies to Hong Kong, any respectable Hong Kong Chinese wouldn't be caught dead in Wanchai with a domestic helper who moonlights for tricks on her day off.

So shoot me for telling it like it is. And that attitude explains why I'd rather spend time with the maids than the Singaporeans.

Mc Don
03-08-11, 04:36
LOL, I am not going to take sides here but I for one appricate Raverboys honesty. Lets face it racism is everywhere. In SEA they have a thing against Philippines and indos is south east europe the gypsies come to mind, in some areas or USA the blacks / Hispanics are not looked at favorably and so on. I guess to each his own. One mans rubbish can often be another mans treasure.


And that attitude explains why I'd rather spend time with the maids than the Singaporeans.

Raverboy
03-08-11, 05:37
Instead you would prefer to be with a white skinned Chinese gal with a big hairy muff. The kind we whiteboys don't take one second look at, as they are not attractive and in most cases in Sing, generally stuck up little prudes who know little else but how to tease. Thank good ness we don't all like the same thing as I'd rather have an " exotic" brown skinned babe who looks great, is friendly, warm, passionate, hot in bed way more than something from a KTV or wherever else you find your hairy muffed white skinned prudes. Give me a real woman everyday instead of a fake. Shoot me back Sunshine.

Actually, I'd rather have an "exotic" brown skinned babe who can deliver a PSE, but I go to their respective countries to find them. ;) Unlike that segment of my fellow countrymen, I don't frequent KTVs, except when I'm in China. As for the hairy muffs, thats why I always bring along a second shaver on my trips to China. Like a missionary, I'm hoping to convert, one hairy muff at a time. :D

Raverboy
03-08-11, 05:48
And that attitude explains why I'd rather spend time with the maids than the Singaporeans.Have fun! As long as you're contributing to the local economy by spending time with the Filipina maids in my country, we have no reason or need to spend time with you either.

Econo Tech
03-08-11, 08:32
Haha. That's interesting. None of the sweet, charming, lovable Filipinas working here in Singapore want to be seen in public (let alone private) with you racist Singaporeans either. How ironic.I thought Raverboy meant "seen with DH who moonlights." not DH themselves.

Well, as to your comments, about maids hitting on guys, you got no clue what you are talking. Only the dumb ones hit on the Europeans / Americans. The smarter ones always target locals, for the simple reason of the former being on transit and the chance of anything as return on investment is ZERO.

You could dispute it. But. Living here for more than 10 years, and having worked in bars for Sunday dances. I guess I know something. Or more.

As to working of course, they prefer European employers due to less work, more perks, and very lax rules. But, after all, reality strikes: only 10% of the maids here are employed by expats: 90% are employed by locals.

Cheers mate

Econo Tech
03-08-11, 08:39
I did give them 150 SGD apiece to take home to their families for which they seemed very grateful. I believe there are a fair number of OT girls who would rather not be there and would take you or I up on the chance just to get away from that scene for a few days, for free.I used to do this, until I figured out that the women are simply nuts and will forget that they need to pay back the 2000 $ or so for the guy who trafficked them in : they forego their 'agent' fee, and take it as a holiday, and forget the 'investor' and then when they get back home, they are put back in the next flight and sent to Singapore or HK or Malaysia, to pay back the 'loan' amount. Or worse, shamed back home, or even worse, I saw cases of girls who did what you wrote about, and back in Singapore a month later, with their sister (to pay the extremely large amount due to the agent)

I always quitely ask them if they are under an agent, and if they start to say that they need to pay back, I take the middle road. Stay with me, but if you need to make money, go and do your business, don't expect me to pay you for the 2000 plus plus for the agent.

Bit complicated to explain.

PS: I am not condoning the guys who do traffic, but I don't want to be seen taking advantage of the girls too when they are put through a lot of crap when they literlly go mushy over a guy who is sweet to them.

Raverboy
03-09-11, 09:06
Haha. That's interesting. None of the sweet, charming, lovable Filipinas working here in Singapore want to be seen in public (let alone private) with you racist Singaporeans either. How ironic.Yes of course we're racist. You obviously are oblivious to the history of my tiny little country. It's the very pillar and cornerstone of our foundation and independance. Of course the discussion of which is beyond the scope of this forum. For your enlightenment, here's some light reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Action_Party%E2%80%93United_Malays_National_Organisation_relations

FreebieFan
03-09-11, 09:14
LOL, I am not going to take sides here but I for one appricate Raverboys honesty. Lets face it racism is everywhere. In SEA they have a thing against Philippines and indos is south east europe the gypsies come to mind, in some areas or USA the blacks / Hispanics are not looked at favorably and so on. I guess to each his own. One mans rubbish can often be another mans treasure.Used to live in Malaysia and we all used to love laughing at the Singaporeans. How they had nothing except a little patch of expensive real estate. And a little bitty city that had one of the highest rates of emigration in Asia. As in everyone wanting to get away.

With such blatant, overt and crassly put racism, its no wonder why.

Who would want to live in a place where everyone feels and acts superior. In a perfect world with perfect Karma, every Singaporean will come back re-incarnated as a hooker, getting shafted by blacks and any skin shade darker than average. LOL.

Keep shooting Racist boy, ooops I meant RaverBOY. Yeah BOY being quite the operative word.

Grown men know that racism aint so nice. Boys don't know any better.

Econo Tech
03-10-11, 03:51
Used to live in Malaysia and we all used to love laughing at the Singaporeans. How they had nothing except a little patch of expensive real estate. And a little bitty city that had one of the highest rates of emigration in Asia. As in everyone wanting to get away.As an outside, just wondering. Yes, a little patch of land, but the land is so prosperous that even Malaysia is virtually going all out to get investment from the little red dot. And laugh you may, as much as Singaporeans want to get out and experience a large space, for every Singaporean, atleast 10 malaysians are dying to come here and earn the mega bucks and a 1000 other nationals are trying their luck. From everything from waitressing to what not. Even all the way from South America, Europe.

Well, things may not be hunky dory here, but the little red dot got something right. I guess.

Something I picked out of an international new report.

"Government-owned investment vehicles such as Temasek and its sister agency Government of Singapore Investment Corp control about $2 trillion. Roughly the size of France's economy. And are expected to grow to $12 trillion by 2015."

No sir, I aint comparing SG with MY, but. With a strong hand or not. Something went right in this little patch of land. . .

Can we get back to the topic now? .

Raverboy
03-10-11, 07:55
Used to live in Malaysia and we all used to love laughing at the Singaporeans. How they had nothing except a little patch of expensive real estate. And a little bitty city that had one of the highest rates of emigration in Asia. As in everyone wanting to get away.

With such blatant, overt and crassly put racism, its no wonder why.

Who would want to live in a place where everyone feels and acts superior. In a perfect world with perfect Karma, every Singaporean will come back re-incarnated as a hooker, getting shafted by blacks and any skin shade darker than average. LOL.

Keep shooting Racist boy, ooops I meant RaverBOY. Yeah BOY being quite the operative word.

Grown men know that racism aint so nice. Boys don't know any better. Actually, I have gotten away. I live elsewhere on an expatriate package.

And go ahead making fun of my online persona. It's just a screen name, so I don't care.

Dreams
03-10-11, 12:17
As an outside, just wondering. Yes, a little patch of land, but the land is so prosperous that even Malaysia is virtually going all out to get investment from the little red dot. And laugh you may, as much as Singaporeans want to get out and experience a large space, for every Singaporean, atleast 10 malaysians are dying to come here and earn the mega bucks and a 1000 other nationals are trying their luck. From everything from waitressing to what not. Even all the way from South America, Europe.

Well, things may not be hunky dory here, but the little red dot got something right. I guess.

Something I picked out of an international new report.

"Government-owned investment vehicles such as Temasek and its sister agency Government of Singapore Investment Corp control about $2 trillion. Roughly the size of France's economy. And are expected to grow to $12 trillion by 2015."

No sir, I aint comparing SG with MY, but. With a strong hand or not. Something went right in this little patch of land. . .

Can we get back to the topic now? . Yes, let's go back to the topic, but not before I strongly support what you said. Let us not be affected by absurd and stupid general statements made by jealous people who do not know a shit about what they are talking about.

Topmanten
03-10-11, 13:42
Let us change the sub to maids pickups on Sundays!

FreebieFan
03-10-11, 14:17
Yes, let's go back to the topic, but not before I strongly support what you said. Let us not be affected by absurd and stupid general statements made by jealous people who do not know a shit about what they are talking about.Another racist tosser maybe. Wow that makes what. Yeah I just counted, that makes two of you.

The rest of the Singaporeans are too embarassed to speak up recognising a major character flaw when they see one.

We all live on Planet Earth. Dial down your racist attitudes and recognise you are no better or worse than anyone else.

BernardWood
03-13-11, 15:02
Working in Malaysia I always overnight in Singapore whilst coming to and from work, about six months ago met an older lady about 50yrs old she proceeded to try and offer some girls to me. Prices where too expensive for that time of the morning so I told her I'd prefer to take her just jokingly haha. Anyway she asked me if I'd take her and her Indonesian friend who was 35 and from Bundoong (girls from bundoong are very slim and great in bed). Anyway got them both for 200sg from 0230 and they left at about 1030 next morning. Once back in the hotel I informed them that I wanted to lick the younger one out and she agreed whilst the older girl who I just recently found out was Singaporean sucked me dry BBBJ and swallowed every drop. Once finished she said you can fuck my friend now as many times as you like. Being tired we all just rested the Indon girl cum once whilst sitting on my face. About an hour later I started to play with the Indon girls clit which caused her to move waken and enjoy my pleasuring, this girl really enjoyed it no faking and came very strongly. She then immediately rolled over and was about to sit on my unprotected cock, I stopped her and she asked me if I wanted a condom I said yes and she got one of the old girl who only had one. I think she was so horny she just wanted me inside her naturally. Anyway we did it doggy, on top spooning and then cum in missionary position this girl really enjoyed sex all the time the Singaporean girl was being wobbled around next to us with the motion. We again went to sleep and I woke hours later with a raging hard on I lay there wondering how to relieve myself. Anyway in short I just rolled over opened her legs and fucked her bare back cumming inside her in about a minutes time with her kissing me deeply real Girl friend experience. Had my blood tests done months after and am fine no problems stayed in touch with her and just last Wednesday rang her and she was happy to come to my hotel room. We chatted and she informed me that she had got a job as a maid and cleaning in a hotel, she was quick to get undressed and gave me the best massage. After the massage she pushed me into the 69 position with her on top this girl really loves getting her pussy eaten out, amazing shaking numerous times no faking sweet tasting pussy lovely girl. She then swung around the other way inserting me inside her BBFJ she angled her self perfectly so she could come again these girls have lovely tight pussies and about 2 minutes later I unloaded inside her, this girl collapsed on top of me and stayed there until my cock shriveled up and fell out of her cum soaked twat. Later in the morning I again got her going and fucked her missionary bare back again it's nice the feeling of a cum soaked twat and the smell of sex (Semen) any way again shot my load inside her and she again wanted me to stay inside her for about 5 minutes which I did no problems. We woke early in the morning as my flight was early and I could have given her one more but didn't sitting here at work now I wish that I had put one more load inside her. These girls are a gift and I will obligingly empty a few more loads inside her on my way home, I really love BBSex and glad I found a girl that has no inhibitions.

BernardWood
03-13-11, 15:06
Working in Malaysia I always overnight in Singapore whilst coming to and from work, about six months ago met an older lady about 50yrs old she proceeded to try and offer some girls to me. Prices where too expensive for that time of the morning so I told her I'd prefer to take her just jokingly haha. Anyway she asked me if I'd take her and her Indonesian friend who was 35 and from Bundoong (girls from bundoong are very slim and great in bed). Anyway got them both for 200sg from 0230 and they left at about 1030 next morning. Once back in the hotel I informed them that I wanted to lick the younger one out and she agreed whilst the older girl who I just recently found out was Singaporean sucked me dry BBBJ and swallowed every drop. Once finished she said you can fuck my friend now as many times as you like. Being tired we all just rested the Indon girl cum once whilst sitting on my face. About an hour later I started to play with the Indon girls clit which caused her to move waken and enjoy my pleasuring, this girl really enjoyed it no faking and came very strongly. She then immediately rolled over and was about to sit on my unprotected cock, I stopped her and she asked me if I wanted a condom I said yes and she got one of the old girl who only had one. I think she was so horny she just wanted me inside her naturally. Anyway we did it doggy, on top spooning and then cum in missionary position this girl really enjoyed sex all the time the Singaporean girl was being wobbled around next to us with the motion. We again went to sleep and I woke hours later with a raging hard on I lay there wondering how to relieve myself. Anyway in short I just rolled over opened her legs and fucked her bare back cumming inside her in about a minutes time with her kissing me deeply real Girl friend experience. Had my blood tests done months after and am fine no problems stayed in touch with her and just last Wednesday rang her and she was happy to come to my hotel room. We chatted and she informed me that she had got a job as a maid and cleaning in a hotel, she was quick to get undressed and gave me the best massage. After the massage she pushed me into the 69 position with her on top this girl really loves getting her pussy eaten out, amazing shaking numerous times no faking sweet tasting pussy lovely girl. She then swung around the other way inserting me inside her BBFJ she angled her self perfectly so she could come again these girls have lovely tight pussies and about 2 minutes later I unloaded inside her, this girl collapsed on top of me and stayed there until my cock shriveled up and fell out of her cum soaked twat. Later in the morning I again got her going and fucked her missionary bare back again it's nice the feeling of a cum soaked twat and the smell of sex (Semen) any way again shot my load inside her and she again wanted me to stay inside her for about 5 minutes which I did no problems. We woke early in the morning as my flight was early and I could have given her one more but didn't sitting here at work now I wish that I had put one more load inside her. These girls are a gift and I will obligingly empty a few more loads in her on the way home.

Raverboy
03-14-11, 06:04
...Who would want to live in a place where everyone feels and acts superior. In a perfect world with perfect Karma, every Singaporean will come back re-incarnated as a hooker, getting shafted by blacks and any skin shade darker than average. LOL...
...We all live on Planet Earth. Dial down your racist attitudes and recognise you are no better or worse than anyone else.Sure Sunshine, so what does that make you? Just a pommie tosser with a closet fetish for being shafted by dark dick?

Econo Tech
03-14-11, 06:55
Let us change the sub to maids pickups on Sundays!You don't give up. Do you? Haha. No. That was in jest.

Well, well, somebody has flown off the tangent, and I wonder what got shafted into FF so much for him to be so bitter.

Anyway, on maids. Well, heard that indonesian maids are becoming the flavor of the year, compared to Phils, as the quality has been improving I was told. E Jakarta type compared to Batam type.

Raverboy
03-14-11, 09:30
...Anyway, on maids. Well, heard that indonesian maids are becoming the flavor of the year, compared to Phils, as the quality has been improving I was told. E Jakarta type compared to Batam type.Econo Tech, thought they have been the 'flavour of the year' for years now! E. Jakarta? You mean Indramayu, east of Jakarta, in Jawa Barat (West Java). ;)

Topmanten
03-14-11, 13:59
Hi ET,

Yes I am on to it, will be at luckyplaza this Sunday to try my luck! Will report soon.

What is the difference between E jakarta type and batman type?

Last year I had a wonderful experience at HK with an indonesian maid, in July and in oct. But now it seems that she has become a full time wg. She was in macau for a month, and you can imagin what she may be doing there, just spoke with her today, she is back in HK, I have some nice photos of her, if she says ok then will post in hk galllery.

What is current rate for LT from OT?

Thanks in advance.

TMT.


You don't give up. Do you? Haha. No. That was in jest.

Well, well, somebody has flown off the tangent, and I wonder what got shafted into FF so much for him to be so bitter.

Anyway, on maids. Well, heard that indonesian maids are becoming the flavor of the year, compared to Phils, as the quality has been improving I was told. E Jakarta type compared to Batam type.

Dreams
03-14-11, 16:09
Another racist tosser maybe. Wow that makes what. Yeah I just counted, that makes two of you.

The rest of the Singaporeans are too embarassed to speak up recognising a major character flaw when they see one.

We all live on Planet Earth. Dial down your racist attitudes and recognise you are no better or worse than anyone else. A bit puzzled why making a comment criticising someone who makes general neghative comments about a place and its people makes me. A racist. But who cares.

BTW, I am not singaporean, I am just an indicidual who, wherever he goes, does not pass judgment on his hosts, but tries to adjust to their way of living. Which is why I enjoyed myself everywhere I go, and that includes Singapore!

Hopefully we won't meet in Singapore, since I guess you hate it so much that you will not go back there.

BionicMan
03-14-11, 16:23
Hi ET,

Yes I am on to it, will be at luckyplaza this Sunday to try my luck! Will report soon.

What is the difference between E jakarta type and batman type?

Last year I had a wonderful experience at HK with an indonesian maid, in July and in oct. But now it seems that she has become a full time wg. She was in macau for a month, and you can imagin what she may be doing there, just spoke with her today, she is back in HK, I have some nice photos of her, if she says ok then will post in hk galllery.

What is current rate for LT from OT?

Thanks in advance.

TMT. Indonesian maids are becoming the flavor of the year

Ehmm. As long as they do not realize and start charging ST and LT! LOL

Econo Tech
03-15-11, 06:16
Hopefully we won't meet in Singapore, since I guess you hate it so much that you will not go back there.I'll put a 50 $ bet that he will be here. Trust me. . . Been there, seen that. Those guys who curse Singapore are those who quitely slip in to get their heart's fill in things they don't get where they are.

As for the other question : Jakarta type. More classy, better Engirish and no asking for mobil-e-pone etc.

Batam. Well, you get the drift? .

Vageterian
03-16-11, 21:30
Have been reading the Singapore thread for a long time now and knew exactly what I wanted when I came to town for the first time. Booked my hotel at the Hilton and proceeded to orchard towers to check out Ipanema. All I have read was how merc the viets were and was determined not to end up with one. Boom as soon as I walked in I got one attached to me with the grip of death. Yes I did have the new to town I don't know what the fuck I am doing look. So I guess for pros like her I was in the slaughter house. Her name was Trinh or something, about 22. She had a nice slender body and nice medium sized tits for an asian gal. However the heavy makeup is a real turn off. Asian women have the natural beauty that does not all that gunk.

She was in a hurry to leave but I wasn't so I told her to take a hike, I came all this way to check this place out so I was having a beer or 2. She wouldn't leave me but looking at the talent around I wasnt disappointed with her. This was around 10 pm and the crowd was starting to fill up and I decided to take her back after we began negotiations. I had told her this was my first time in Singapore so I was ready to laugh at the intial offer which started out at 300 st haha. We finally agreed at 175 for st and I insisted on BBBJ and unlimited pops. She would not budge on anal or photos even for extra.

Back to the room the complaints started. Dick is too big, beer on breath. Almost swallowed the toothbrush and that was still not enough. She starts complaining her stomach is upset and tries to bail out at 1. 5 hours. Gave her 100 sing and told her to get out. Sex was terrible and she had no enthusiasm. Sent her packing and went back to Ipanema and took home a cute little Cambodian near closing time. 200 for the rest of the night at closing, Multiple positions, great blowjob and everything I wanted except photos and anal. Good morning session and we had a nice breakfast. Shake those viets like the plague I say and have learned a good lesson for the next time. Not a perfect night but could have been alot worse without the advice of the forum. Still to date the best 20 bucks I spent was signing up as a member of this forum

Cheers guys

Vageterian

Geneva Guy
03-16-11, 22:44
Have been reading the Singapore thread for a long time now and knew exactly what I wanted when I came to town for the first time. Booked my hotel at the Hilton and proceeded to orchard towers to check out Ipanema. All I have read was how merc the viets were and was determined not to end up with one. Boom as soon as I walked in I got one attached to me with the grip of death. Yes I did have the new to town I don't know what the fuck I am doing look. So I guess for pros like her I was in the slaughter house. Her name was Trinh or something, about 22. She had a nice slender body and nice medium sized tits for an asian gal. However the heavy makeup is a real turn off. Asian women have the natural beauty that does not all that gunk.

She was in a hurry to leave but I wasn't so I told her to take a hike, I came all this way to check this place out so I was having a beer or 2. She wouldn't leave me but looking at the talent around I wasnt disappointed with her. This was around 10 pm and the crowd was starting to fill up and I decided to take her back after we began negotiations. I had told her this was my first time in Singapore so I was ready to laugh at the intial offer which started out at 300 st haha. We finally agreed at 175 for st and I insisted on BBBJ and unlimited pops. She would not budge on anal or photos even for extra.

Back to the room the complaints started. Dick is too big, beer on breath. Almost swallowed the toothbrush and that was still not enough. She starts complaining her stomach is upset and tries to bail out at 1. 5 hours. Gave her 100 sing and told her to get out. Sex was terrible and she had no enthusiasm. Sent her packing and went back to Ipanema and took home a cute little Cambodian near closing time. 200 for the rest of the night at closing, Multiple positions, great blowjob and everything I wanted except photos and anal. Good morning session and we had a nice breakfast. Shake those viets like the plague I say and have learned a good lesson for the next time. Not a perfect night but could have been alot worse without the advice of the forum. Still to date the best 20 bucks I spent was signing up as a member of this forum

Cheers guys

VageterianHey Vaget,

Well, you find out the hard way about the Viets. But. Since you are still in SG, there is nice viet I can point you to. Her name is "moon" from HCMC, she hangs out on the big "planter" in front of the starbucks at orchard parade hotel (down the street from you). Took her last week when I was in SG. Had her a couple of years ago. She is 1/2 viet. 1/2 Chinese, long black hair pulled back, cute boobs, clean pussy, and. Of note. Very clean but. Has strong smell in armpits despite the fact they are shaved. Now, I like that, you may not. But she is fun, good kisser and a good bargain at 150 for ST (and suspect later in the evening you can get her for 200 LT, I did). She is still in town but I don't have her number. But you can pick her out easy, sitting on the concrete planter in front of OP starbucks. I avoid viets usually, but she is cool, if you want to try one out. No anal, not sure about pics, but I do like her a lot.

Enjoy SG.

GG

Vageterian
03-19-11, 02:21
First off I will say thanks to GG for the tip. Was reading a few of your posts before I came and them in mind. Naturally I do post several weeks after the fact so my long term in jakarta remains clueless. On average I am finding the prices about 3x what they are in jakarta for the same quality pussy. However the selection and cleanliness of the city are much to be desired and worth the extra.

I arrived on a Friday and had some quick papers processed at the consulate before settling down to enjoy my well deserved weekend and leaving Monday morning. On Friday afternoon I had been all over Orchard road and ventured into lucky plaza which even for a Friday afternoon had alot of really hot pinay. However being overly cautious about the laws and customs of the country I refrained from making any offers. In fact my whole afternoon of wondering around I found most of the women seemed oblivious to my presence. The only flirting I would say came from an expat blond at the starbucks somewhere in that maze of the underground train. Shock me up though as she had a rather small baby with her.

After my first night in OT I had earlier planned to meet a Chinese singaporean lady I had met on a internet dating site many months before. She was 31 and in great shape, but most of them are compared to western woman who expand a few inches around the waist every year. Went over to the Angus steak house for dinner close by and it was a nice spot. After dinner walked around a bit and talked blah blah. Around 10 pm I shammed heat stroke as it was particularly hot that day and being canadian was a bit too much for me. I told her I had a wonderful evening and offered her cab money home. She said well let me walk you to your hotel and I can easliy get a taxi there. She walked me to my room door and I knew she wasnt going home. She came in and I said I had to take a shower to cool off. Not in there 3 mins and in she came. Tits were a bit wrote off and saggy. Not into the long asian nipple some of them have. But her ass was pristine. Alot of heavy dfk in the shower and a great BBBJ, spitter of course. I find it always interesting to see the face after that whitening cream comes off. But thankfully I gave her a partial recovering. On to the bed her performance was inspired but lacking professional skill. Something has to give with this no anal stuff. No point in having a ferrari if you can't drive it. Got 2 pops off then off to sleep. A quickie around 4 am and up and out for breakfast around 9 am. Showed me around Singapore a bit that Sunday morning but I had to ditch her for my planned day at lucky plaza to meet some pinay. Went off to lucky and although much to look at, didn't score although I did not put out much effort. Sunday evening was wasted so got to sleep early for a early flight.

All in all I really like Singapore. One of the cleanest and most lawful cities on earth. Alot of hot women and anywhere I have gone in asia I must really commend these tiny asian women. They can really take a dick. Thanks to all the Singapore contributors. It could have been alot worse and expensive then it was and I appreciate the advice. Next time I come back I plan to fan out a bit and try some down right dirty shit so keep those posts comming.

AussieGaigin
03-19-11, 06:27
Around 10 pm I shammed heat stroke as it was particularly hot that day and being canadian was a bit too much for me. I told her I had a wonderful evening and offered her cab money home. She said well let me walk you to your hotel and I can easliy get a taxi there.This is a very good line. In the "good old days" before mobile phones and email the need for a quick stop off at home or the hotel room "to check for an important message I am expecting" was a great ruse to get a girl inside.

Vageterian
03-19-11, 22:16
This is a very good line. In the "good old days" before mobile phones and email the need for a quick stop off at home or the hotel room "to check for an important message I am expecting" was a great ruse to get a girl inside.Yes well said Aussiegaigin. They want to come up to the room sometimes more than the monger does. They just need that face saving excuse. In the asian countries I have travelled too I have found the best opportunities that present themselves are through internet dating sites. DIA, International cupid or Filipina cupid are all good sites I have used. Usually I will contact them several months in advance and no matter what the womans add happens to say they are all available for short term encounters if the right approach is used. Telling them I am single, tired of the dating scene and wanting to settle down to have a family haha. About one month into the conversation an emergency will interrupt my trip and as the kind hearted friend I have become, would wish them well and ask them to remain friends. That is a good "in". Then you are free to operate as a friend only without the constraints of a proposed relationship. Using the sites I have listed I have successfully landed a few very good and relatively free encounters. In indonesia I have met 8 women through DIA and slept with all of them. 2 I choose not to for other reasons. Philippines was much easier but the pinay tend to hold on real tight and don't want to give up a good catch. Singapore I was one for one and wish I had of had more time there.

Fellow mongers there are exciting and variable choices available online and I have actually seen one very well known model and celebrity online trying to pay some legal bills resulting from a recent scandal in Indonesia. For those not familiar with asian culture the husband, kitchen and husband mentality is very ingrained in the eyes of society. If you meet a non pro online as long as she is treated as a gf or wife in public, she can be the dirtiest of working girls behind closed doors. Asian women love sex as much as we do boys. Treating them with discretion in public will lead to benefits working girls cannot provide.

Happy Hunting to you all

RBorgia
03-22-11, 12:09
I'm in Singapore this weekend and am looking for a good tantra massage. I've got a few contacts, so am willing to share if you have some freelance contacts for a good tantric experience. PM me.

Cheers.

RB

FreebieFan
03-22-11, 14:34
A bit puzzled why making a comment criticising someone who makes general neghative comments about a place and its people makes me. A racist. But who cares.

BTW, I am not singaporean, I am just an indicidual who, wherever he goes, does not pass judgment on his hosts, but tries to adjust to their way of living. Which is why I enjoyed myself everywhere I go, and that includes Singapore!

Hopefully we won't meet in Singapore, since I guess you hate it so much that you will not go back there. Actually I will be there quite soon. Have my 3 trips a year and have done for the past 20 years. If you read back tho, you will find I often take company, preferably Indonesian. The place is ok. Its the racist tossers that mark themselves out as lacking any aspect of human compassion or empathy. Hopefully my Indonesian companion will have been tanning nicely during her college vacation and will be delightfully dark.

And yeah, I hope we don't meet too. That way you won't have to drool at my companion. LOL

Paris_20001
03-22-11, 16:25
Hi,

I'm staying at the Concorde hotel in SG (nice one used to be the meridian before). Took a girl from downstairs at the mall level (leve2) at about 22h45.

SG 200. Very nice. Great time BUT she asked me if I had a condom and I said no. She explained me that they can't carry condoms with them! So as the shop of the hotel was closed. I had a very nice BJ no covered and no FS.

Anyway great time! So don't forget you need to have your own condoms!

SahinAga
03-22-11, 18:36
. Telling them I am single, tired of the dating scene and wanting to settle down to have a family haha. About one month into the conversation an emergency will interrupt my trip and as the kind hearted friend I have become, would wish them well and ask them to remain friends.

Happy Hunting to you allCheating girls promising marriage, settling down etc. Is just low. I find p4p more ethical.

Tanglin
03-23-11, 02:38
Hopefully my Indonesian companion will have been tanning nicely LOL<snicker

You've obviously never dated anyone from Asia, let alone SE Asia.

Topmanten
03-23-11, 03:46
Hi,

At last I am here, tried luckplaza this Sunday but not 100% success, make a contact with an Indo maid, will be meeting her next Sunday! Hopmefully better luck on coming Sunday.

Sunday night picked one Chinese girl from ot, not so good. On Monday night agin fm op a Viet nam cute girl only 37kg hardly 5 ft. Looks like a teen age 14. 15, but actually 24. What a wonderful experience.

Yesterday. Tuesday she came to my room with her friend both GFE, was here from 7. 30pm to 10. 30pm what a wonderful session, after 10. 30 both went to ot just 2 min walking distance from my hotel orchard parade. Will post some photo later, tonight plan to try some Filipino fm ot, which is the best club for Filipino pickup

Tanglin
03-23-11, 07:31
Hi,

At last I am here, tried luckplaza this Sunday but not 100% success, make a contact with an Indo maid, will be meeting her next Sunday! Hopmefully better luck on coming Sunday.

Sunday night picked one Chinese girl from ot, not so good. On Monday night agin fm op a Viet nam cute girl only 37kg hardly 5 ft. Looks like a teen age 14. 15, but actually 24. What a wonderful experience.

Yesterday. Tuesday she came to my room with her friend both GFE, was here from 7. 30pm to 10. 30pm what a wonderful session, after 10. 30 both went to ot just 2 min walking distance from my hotel orchard parade. Will post some photo later, tonight plan to try some Filipino fm ot, which is the best club for Filipino pickupEconoTech will probably have some good advice as well, but Peyton Place or Bali-Ba are good places for Filipinas. I've heard that Peyton Place is now a BMD bar, but you can still find Filipinas available for ST or LT. You can also try Duxton Road and Tanjong Pagar. Mostly BMD bars, but also plenty of workers available.

Lucky Plaza is the epicenter of the Filipino community here in Singapore, but picking up someone there is about the same but picking up someone at your local mall. 99% of the women there are NOT professionals. In OT, especially after 8:00 pm, most of the women are.

Tanglin
03-23-11, 07:32
Cheating girls promising marriage, settling down etc. Is just low. I find p4p more ethical.I had the same thought as I read that post.

Topmanten
03-23-11, 10:32
Thanks for prompt reply.

What about blue banana bar at ot? Is it a good pickup point for fillis?

PP is a bmd bar, girls are not allowed to go out till 12 mid night or 6am!


EconoTech will probably have some good advice as well, but Peyton Place or Bali-Ba are good places for Filipinas. I've heard that Peyton Place is now a BMD bar, but you can still find Filipinas available for ST or LT. You can also try Duxton Road and Tanjong Pagar. Mostly BMD bars, but also plenty of workers available.

Lucky Plaza is the epicenter of the Filipino community here in Singapore, but picking up someone there is about the same but picking up someone at your local mall. 99% of the women there are NOT professionals. In OT, especially after 8:00 pm, most of the women are.

Raverboy
03-23-11, 11:01
Actually I will be there quite soon. Have my 3 trips a year and have done for the past 20 years. If you read back tho, you will find I often take company, preferably Indonesian. The place is ok. Its the racist tossers that mark themselves out as lacking any aspect of human compassion or empathy. Hopefully my Indonesian companion will have been tanning nicely during her college vacation and will be delightfully dark.

And yeah, I hope we don't meet too. That way you won't have to drool at my companion. LOLAhhh now I understand. No wonder why you have such an axe to grind with those you call 'racist tossers'. You're Ying guo ren living in Taipei. Knowing how the Taiwanese are with expats and having to deal with those fair skinned Taiwanese Princesses on a day-to-day basis, I would be craving Indo / Flip pussy too!

Vageterian
03-23-11, 13:29
Cheating girls promising marriage, settling down etc. Is just low. I find p4p more ethical.First of all how is that unethical. The girl makes her own choice. She doesn't have to meet me or talk to me. It is called an "in" as apposed to some dumbasses who just pm a telephone number or hotel room number. She was free to make all the choices.

Dreams
03-23-11, 17:57
Actually I will be there quite soon. Have my 3 trips a year and have done for the past 20 years. If you read back tho, you will find I often take company, preferably Indonesian. The place is ok. Its the racist tossers that mark themselves out as lacking any aspect of human compassion or empathy. Hopefully my Indonesian companion will have been tanning nicely during her college vacation and will be delightfully dark.

And yeah, I hope we don't meet too. That way you won't have to drool at my companion. LOLFine, indeed, but I still don't know on which ground you labelled me as a "racist".

Mondeoman
03-23-11, 18:46
First of all how is that unethical. The girl makes her own choice. She doesn't have to meet me or talk to me. It is called an "in" as apposed to some dumbasses who just pm a telephone number or hotel room number. She was free to make all the choices.She made those choices based on misleading information you had deliberately supplied to her. That's why it's a shitty thing to do.

Vageterian
03-23-11, 19:30
She made those choices based on misleading information you had deliberately supplied to her. That's why it's a shitty thing to do.She had months to make her decision. She was not pressured to do anything. We had spoken for a few months as friends . It was her choice to come to my room if you correctly read my post . If i was such a prick as you suggest , why did she want to spend the whole next day for me , My point is , not everyone on a dating site that claims marriage and relationship want that , they are just not brazen enough to admit they like to play

Tanglin
03-24-11, 05:17
Thanks for prompt reply.

What about blue banana bar at ot? Is it a good pickup point for fillis?

PP is a bmd bar, girls are not allowed to go out till 12 mid night or 6am! I'm not sure. But in the spirit of brotherhood, I think it's time to make a recon trip to OT and find out.

Econo Tech
03-24-11, 07:49
Thanks for prompt reply.

What about blue banana bar at ot? Is it a good pickup point for fillis?

PP is a bmd bar, girls are not allowed to go out till 12 mid night or 6am!The cream of PP is now in BB. Atleast some of the top performers (in terms of good sex) from PP are located in BB.

BB. Will not change. PP changed as was taken over by a guy who runs BMD bars concept.

Go to BB- or check Baliba (ah. Another BB) in 1st floor. Got take aways + dancers. Just avoid the dancers (those with boots.).

I am in OT almost every weekend.

Dreams
03-24-11, 10:22
She had months to make her decision. She was not pressured to do anything. We had spoken for a few months as friends . It was her choice to come to my room if you correctly read my post . If i was such a prick as you suggest , why did she want to spend the whole next day for me , My point is , not everyone on a dating site that claims marriage and relationship want that , they are just not brazen enough to admit they like to playYou can say whatever you want to justify yourself, but for many of us here, you are just a liar who takes advantage of the naivite and hopes of the girls who believe you. It is not illegal, it is immoral and unethical as said before.

FrenchTouch
03-24-11, 12:31
Was in Singapore lately.

Arrived Sunday afternoon at around 4 PM. By 5PM was in my hotel Copthorne Orchid. A bit run down but rooms have balconies which I find nice and still affordable. When I arrived called one of my DIA sex mates, which I already banged in one previous trips. Filipina. 31, works as a maid, and loves to use her dildo when she sees me on cam. Whether I show her my intimate parts or not, she does it anyway. Go figure. Anyway had made it clear that she should be ready for action around that time. 30 minutes after the call, knock knock. Another good point for Orchid, they do not have tight security so girls can come up unnoticed. I just took shower, opened the door with a towel around my waist. Here she comes, with the requested mini skirt. I feel her up and as requested too, no panty. Seconds later she is on her knees blowing me with attention and passion. They must have a programm in high school about "how to please a man with your mouth.". Given the 4 days without sex that preceeded, she managed to get a good load in her mouth that she swallowed proudly. Once she had dried me off, off to bed for cuddling, chatting and customary exchange of gifts : donuts and magnets. She loved it. A while later after the customary how's your family, yes I miss you but don't forget we are both free etc. Second round. Lots of "oh sh. T","not too hard you are so big","yes bby fucke me more." etc and some 30 or so minutes later, another CIM after condom off. All and all, she is not a stunner, would not scare off most of us also, but she is damn good in bed and loves to fuck. Only downside, she does not, and really I think this will not happen, let me fuck her ass. Tried all but to no avail. Anyway, ordered some food, talked a little, and I sent her away to her epmloyers'. At 10PM she was gone, I was relaxed and happy and slept quite eary after that. Need to think of something kinky for next time, since she seems to accept all. Maybe tell her to bring a friend. Up to now she says no, but I think I can sort of convince her.

Next day, meetings and all. In the evening, after catching up with paris office and mails, found myself going out to check if luck was with me. Lurked around various places in orchard (emerald hill etc.) but did not ind anything. So headed up to OT. Stayed in Ipanema for 30 minutes or 2 scothc sodas. Had a lot of fun watching the bunch of piranhas looking up all the guys entering while I was in the smoking "lounge". Really funny to see these faces and bodies ready to attack the first time mongerer. After going around found nothing to wake up the be (a) st in me.

So walked to Brix. I prefer, by far, the mood there. More upscale. At first did not notice anything. So was about to call it a day at 12 30 or so and two more scotch sodas when I noticed this very cute and young looking girl with a hot body. So we talked. Mimi or Lili (pardon me but these 4 scotch sodas have to be paid for at some point.) is from Cambodia, claims she is 23 (seems reasonable) and really has a sweet and cute face and a body to die for. We talkd for a while. Until she said take me with you. To which I retorted that I did not want since I was sure she would want too much. I was taking a risk, the number of guys, surprisingly, was high (2 men / 1 woman ratio I guess) for a Monday.

She said how do you know blah blah. I rebuked her first 500 for one shot. Went down to 400 one shot. Rebuked again. We finally settled for 300 2 shots / 2 hours. Up we go. She has condoms with her. A first and a relief, no need to look for some at that hour etc. Groping and light kissing in the cab. She was constantly massagin my dick.

Arrived in room. SHower, separately. Then one good BBBJ while I was foundling her sweet body. No kids, cup B firm tits, soft but flat belly, partially bare pussy, long and soft legs. A real pleasure. She hd agreed to BBBJ me but not CIM. Well I sprayed her face, which she moderately appreciated. Then little cuddling, minimal talk cause her english was minimal and my Cambodian is not to happen anyway. Then second round, more positions, she KYed herself so I guess she was not completely in love with me LOL. Still delivered and I managed to finish after a while, which given my intake of alcohol, the time and the fact that I had already come a while ago was by itself a bit of a surprise. THis time on her belly after a savage round of doggie.

She went to the bathroom, washed herself. I barely had time to give her the cash and take her to the door before I fell soundly asleep.

She was sitting on a chair on that wall that is at the intersection of the entrance to the second bar and the "path" leading to the 3rd bar and the smoking lounge. 1.60m, cannot weigh more than 45kg, no tattos just a plain black dress. Really hot looking and a good shag if not the best GFE in the world.

Enjoy.

Boater Boy
03-24-11, 17:31
Hi,

Since the declicine of Geylang I have been looking for something else.

I saw a reference once to Putain or Putian Road Sing. Has anyone any ideas about this area. Are there SWs around?

Thanks for replies.

BB

Raverboy
03-25-11, 04:46
Hi,

Since the declicine of Geylang I have been looking for something else.

I saw a reference once to Putain or Putian Road Sing. Has anyone any ideas about this area. Are there SWs around?

Thanks for replies.

BBLOL you must've seen the reference on a drunk Frenchman! There is no 'Wh*re' Road in Singapore. Its Petain Road lah.

Tanglin
03-25-11, 05:00
LOL you must've seen the reference on a drunk Frenchman! There is no 'Wh*re' Road in Singapore. Its Petain Road lah.Petain Road, aka Flander's Square. Makes Desker Road look good, if that's even possible.

Econo Tech
03-25-11, 05:01
Hi,

Since the declicine of Geylang I have been looking for something else.

I saw a reference once to Putain or Putian Road Sing. Has anyone any ideas about this area. Are there SWs around?

Thanks for replies.

BBPetain mate, Petain. Nah, I wouldn't touch the stuff there even with a 10 feet barge pole. .

It is the twin of Desker road. 20$ to 30$ pops, and rooms just big enough to squeeze in, and toilet is a basin inside the room. The girl just sprinkles some water and then off-you go.

No streetwalkers. Though there is a strong following for the Petain Road stuff. Check up on Google Flanders Square.

Robin Mill
03-25-11, 08:56
She had months to make her decision. She was not pressured to do anything. We had spoken for a few months as friends . It was her choice to come to my room if you correctly read my post . If i was such a prick as you suggest , why did she want to spend the whole next day for me , My point is , not everyone on a dating site that claims marriage and relationship want that , they are just not brazen enough to admit they like to playHi.

Just thought I want to share with you something. There are such things as CURSE in asia. So if one day, you get STD, or your dick suddenly drop off, you know you had it coming.

Tanglin
03-25-11, 09:24
Was in Singapore lately.

Arrived Sunday afternoon at around 4 PM. By 5PM was in my hotel Copthorne Orchid. A bit run down but rooms have balconies which I find nice and still affordable. Nice report.

Just an FYI. Sadly, this hotel is closing at the end of the month and is going to be torn down.

Dreams
03-25-11, 16:26
LOL you must've seen the reference on a drunk Frenchman! There is no 'Wh*re' Road in Singapore. Its Petain Road lah.Yes,"putain" means "working girl". It is also used like the english "fuck". Petain is the name of the French Marechal which, first lead the allies troup in winning the crucial battle of verdun during WWI, before. Becoming the guy who sold France, and its Jews, to Hiltler in 1940. He was condemned to death after the war, but spared by the then head of state, General de Gaulle.

Sorry, all the above has absolutely no interest in this forum, but, sometimes, people may be interested in other things than their dick.

BionicMan
03-26-11, 23:09
NICE FR. Do drop me an email the next time you are in Singapore@**********@gmail.com. We have gals for incall.Wow. An email address surviving the rules.

Topmanten
03-27-11, 02:53
Was there on 24th Thursday by 9. 30pm, lot fills 3 to 1 for men. Got a cute looking filly for 200 Lt, took her to my room at orchard parade which is only 2 min walking fm ot.

Had a wonderful time with her, she got a very lovely, tight pussy, will post some phots soon, left by 9am. She loves pussy massage and I am good on that, she came 2 times just by massaging her pussy, one has master that action and it is easy to make come almost all girls just by massaging the part of her pussy.

TMT

Llantarnam
03-27-11, 12:36
Will be in Singapore in 3 weeks time and am in the process of sorting out my preferred order of bonking.

There looks like a lot of pussy on offer from the agencies advertising services via the Laksaboy site. Can anyone offer any guidance on the "room included" set up. Am I going to end up in a posh flat in the middle of town, or a 1* hotel miles from anywhere?

FrenchTouch
03-27-11, 18:20
Nice report.

Just an FYI. Sadly, this hotel is closing at the end of the month and is going to be torn down. Yes and it's a pity. Am looking at other options, but prices have gone up tremendously everywhere

Ebauche
03-27-11, 18:58
Will be in Singapore in 3 weeks time and am in the process of sorting out my preferred order of bonking.

There looks like a lot of pussy on offer from the agencies advertising services via the Laksaboy site. Can anyone offer any guidance on the "room included" set up. Am I going to end up in a posh flat in the middle of town, or a 1* hotel miles from anywhere? Laksaboy stables put up girls in 1* hotels (Fragrance, H81, etc.) all over town, from Chinatown to CBD to Little India and elsewhere. Of the girls I've seen, only the Chinatown hotel was a shithole, but the 3-hole Thai with excellent natural D-cups made it worthwhile! And remember, pretty much everything will be a S$6-20 taxi ride depending on time of day and ERP tolls.

Frankly, if you have the time and can get away I'd hit Geylang, OT and / or Brix for the shopping experience. Geylang houses are easy and straightforward to navigate. Show up, peruse, pick, pay and poke. For OT / Brix, read the forum and acquaint yourself with market prices. Enjoy the meat market experience.

Beach Boiii - I know you are just trying to run a business, but honestly outcall agencies in SIN aren't generally the best option or the best "cultural experience" to be had in the Lion City. And frankly, no transport fee is needed - one can obtain "pig-in-a-poke" outcall, sometimes from very nice and skilled/subservient Pinays via SGadsonline dot com (under other services) for S$100-150, 1.5-2 hours, 2 shots. Only thing is you are flying blind there re the looks and service that will arrive at your door. But I have had some excellent experiences from there - see my photo reports.

Bottom line, unless I was time constrained or just bored/lazy I'd skip outcall agencies. I'd call SGads when I wanted a leisurely nooner on a Sat/Sun and was too lazy to leave my flat. Usually a better deal than Geylang in terms of $, time allowed and shots allowed.

Now, an agency that reliably provided desirable niche product, attractive Indian girls for example, or Indos (best built in SEA IMHO - petite, pretty, but actually curvy with an ass worth grabbing), would be worth it. Or the Laksaboy OKT who for awhile specialized in identical Thai twins - sadly never made that connection work.

Just my S$0.02

Ebauche
03-27-11, 19:19
Well say and fully agreed. And that is the reason why I am offering a better option.How is your option "better?"

And frankly, you should confine your marketing efforts to the Advertising thread where it belongs.

Llantarnam
03-27-11, 20:49
Laksaboy stables put up girls in 1* hotels (Fragrance, H81, etc.) all over town, from Chinatown to CBD to Little India and elsewhere. Of the girls I've seen, only the Chinatown hotel was a shithole, but the 3-hole Thai with excellent natural D-cups made it worthwhile! And remember, pretty much everything will be a S$6-20 taxi ride depending on time of day and ERP tolls.

Frankly, if you have the time and can get away I'd hit Geylang, OT and / or Brix for the shopping experience. Geylang houses are easy and straightforward to navigate. Show up, peruse, pick, pay and poke. For OT / Brix, read the forum and acquaint yourself with market prices. Enjoy the meat market experience. Thanks for the advice.

I have been to Singapore on 2 previous occasions, but never sampled the Laksaboy offerings. Never had a problem with Geylang or OT in the past, so I guess it's stick to what you know

Peterko
03-27-11, 22:08
When I see the offers from the agencies listed on Laksaboy I think that the 300 Sin$ for overnight in the hotel room of the girl is a good offer for a stopover. You save the hotel costs anyway.

But is it secure? Or do I risk the chance of a police raid in the middle of the night?

Can anyone tell about his experiences with such an overnight stay?

Raverboy
03-28-11, 07:11
Well say and fully agreed. And that is the reason why I am offering a better option.Yo 'Brudder', your one-liner no head no tail. How is your option 'better' than the other OKTs'? Just because you deliver pizza doesn't mean your pizzas are tastier hor.

Dreams
03-28-11, 15:20
How is your option "better?"

And frankly, you should confine your marketing efforts to the Advertising thread where it belongs. He should stop polluting this thread and move out to the ad section.

Karma Police
03-28-11, 17:43
Because its Friday: Went to Ipanema at OT around midnight. It was very crowded and the ratio did not look particularly good. Most of the guys seemed like they were just window shopping but the crowd made it less fun for me. I decided to wait it out upstairs where it was more relaxing. Talked at length to a tight bodied, 'girl next door' type 21yo Thai who is going back to Thailand in 2 weeks. When it came to negotiation she would not budge from 200ST / 400LT. These prices are not consistent with what has been quoted on the forum. Can anyone comment? Is this because its Friday night?

After negotiations broke down I went back downstairs and saw a really sexy 24yo African girl in a tiny miniskirt and a corset. Imagine a skinnier, less muscular version of Serena Williams (yes, I think Serena is sexy!). I saw multiple guys approach her and immediately walk away suggesting a very high price. I was originally in the mood for Asian but this dish looked too tasty to pass up. After a brief conversation she quoted 250ST / 500LT; I said I am not paying that. She asked me to make an offer, which was 150ST. For 3 seconds she had a "computing, computing" look on her face at which point she said "ok, because I like you." I'm so glad she likes me for me! Also ST at 1:30 meant she would have time to come back for another client. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, CFS. She turned out to be somewhat shy and self conscious, and not as great in bed as I was expecting, but still a pretty positive overall experience; she is a nice girl. She also works in Mixx some nights and is off to Thailand with some guy next week.

And Tomorrow is Saturday: Went to Geylang around 9pm. Walked into and out of many places along Lorongs 24-18 and prices were anywhere between 150 / hour and 80/45min. I did not notice a difference in girl quality among the places. Went upstairs with a 24yo Thai for S$80/30min. Unforunately in the room I realized that I was not particularly attracted to her: the face was less attractive than I initially thought and the body resembled a 14yo. Luckily she turned out to be a very hard worker, making me finish was not easy. After I was done she actually passed out on the bed in exhaustion for 5 minutes. Got some amazing Dim Sum at Lorong 8 and went home. Is it good or bad that the dim sum was more enjoyable than the girl?

Summary: It seems like OT is a much better deal than Geylang: for nearly the same price you can find a more attractive girl for a longer time. I found this is pretty surprising since places like Geylang are usually cheaper than all alternatives. The minuses of OT: 1) too crowded. 2) I hate both bargaining and getting ripped off. 3) chance of running into co-workers in hotel lobby. 4) no food options like Geylang.

PHC9741
03-28-11, 19:31
Is it me or are the prices quoted in OT getting higher? The initial quotes by the Viet girls are getting high and I think the quality is getting lower. Are the better girls moving across the street?

Topmanten
03-29-11, 03:18
those who love fillis and indos go to bb on the basement of ot, there are lot of filli girls avilable for 150 to 200 sgd for lt.

some are ****nts and they need to pay him 3000sgd, so are forced to stay from 7pm till 4am. once they pay back the money, then they are free to go any where.

got a 2nd filly on sunday for 150sgd frm 8. 30pm to 11. 30pm, got as a refferel from her friend, who was with me the other day, so i need not go the ot. she was excellent in bed, no kids. 36. will post some photo later.

tmt.


is it me or are the prices quoted in ot getting higher? the initial quotes by the viet girls are getting high and i think the quality is getting lower. are the better girls moving across the street?

Econo Tech
03-29-11, 07:23
For 3 seconds she had a "computing, computing" look on her face at which point she said "ok, because I like you." I'm so glad she likes me for me!Damn you lucky bastard. You are lucky she liked you.

Well, to be honest, I have heard guys offering the 'spinner' nothing more than 100. If you are referring to the one who dresses in leopard spot dress and has curly / permed hair sort.

PS, the second floor - the so-called famous joint, on the right side as you go up - seems to be loosing it's top spot .. on to other places .. and being flooded with viets don't help anybody .. except the gullible ..

Tanglin
03-29-11, 08:34
Damn you lucky bastard. You are lucky she liked you.

Well, to be honest, I have heard guys offering the 'spinner' nothing more than 100. If you are referring to the one who dresses in leopard spot dress and has curly / permed hair sort.

PS, the second floor. The so-called famous joint, on the right side as you go up. Seems to be loosing it's top spot. On to other places. And being flooded with viets don't help anybody. Except the gullible. It seems to have started it's downhill slide when the ShaGees left. And yeah, the Viets really don't help the situation.