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Spotted Dick
04-05-06, 07:58
The Jelly Hotel is a so-called "love hotel" -- at least, that's how it looked to me when I walked past it one night, and that's what it admits in the newspaper (http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200505/17/200505172212067939900091009101.html) -- conveniently located between the Yeoksam Station and the Kangnam Station on Subway line 2 (the Green Line). The rooms are reasonably priced and the place looks plush enough.
That neighborhood is reasonably well-equipped with massage parlors (W200,000) and barbershops (W80,000-100,000). My guess is 100m in any direction will turn up at least two hot spots. If you get desperate just to the north a long city block away lie the Ritz-Carlton and Novotel Ambassador hotels. The forum has reports on massage parlors and barbershops nearby.
Get on the subway and go to Seollung Station, get off and walk on the north side of the street from Seollung Station to Samseong Station (COEX), in the alley just behind the main street, and you'll encounter a million great places ranging from massage parlors and barbershops to "hardcore" room salons and "look-but-don't-touch" so-called "sexy bars". That's pay for play.
588 is very far away. It's probably a W17,000 cab ride from where you are. Or you can try to navigate by subway to Cheongnyang-ni Station, which will have you taking the Green Line to Wangshim-ni Station (14 or 15 stops, depending on where you get on) and transferring to the National Rail Road light-turquoise line. That line lets off at the main railway station, whereupon you'll have to step out into the main plaza and toddle off to your left into the alleyways behind the Lotte Department Store.
Is it worth it? Probably not. W80,000 for a quick clinical bang (admittedly with a really hot girl) and the highest likelihood of arrest and humiliation. No thanks.
Kangnam Station is the area where all the young people get together to have beers. Go and look perplexed and you might pick up a sweet young thing who wants to learn English. But be prepared for disappointment -- she probably only wants to learn English.
If you're here on a Friday then Don't Tell Mama or some other "booking" club should be worth a look-see, although it's expensive (W200,000 and up) and no guarantee of sex. But it's more like a "local" pick-up joint than anywhere else and the chances of success are higher. There is also the usual high-class hotel bar option where some smoking-hot working girls may be encountered -- for example, JJ Mahoney's at the Hyatt Hotel. W10,000 by cab from where the Jelly Hotel is.
Also, being the Jelly Hotel you probably can call out for pussy and I'd bet the front desk can arrange it. If not, there are ads in the English-language newspapers for "massage" services and also the streets are littered with small come-on cards with phone numbers saying "Find a place then call". These cards say the fare will be W80,000 but that seems wrong -- plan on W120,000-150,000.
Of course, there's always Itaewon. Enjoy the genital warts; I know I did.
Best value will be the barbershops. Good luck!
i also said korea doesn't want to become another thailand, i. e. another international sex destination, so korean police may crack down if they feel like it. police has the business scared of allowing foreigners. this is first business reason: no sex destination, so no foreigners.
ummmm no!! the korean police dont crack down on foreigners
actually the rlds in korea are in place to keep the already high [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) counts
in korea down! they are afraid if they remove these districts the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) rate will further increase! koreas has high spouse beating and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) statistics.
the rlds are a necessary evil! this is quoted from the cheif of police if you dont believe it.
the pimps keep the foreigners out for economical reasons. thats it.
the second prominent business reason is the korean's fear aids from foreigners. first, i don't know why you suggests korean guys have more aids than americans. .
ummm if you read my post correctly i never said korean guys have more aids than americans. i said. the numbers of aids victims in korea come from koreans not foreigners! the girls who got aids, were from koreans!
becuase koreans go to thailand and dont protect themselves when they have sex! ask any korean! they dont like condom! so they think their woman are safe so they dont wear one even in rld! where a foreigner will most likely wear one! this is also due to the sex education in our countries! and our better health care, compared to a non exsistant sex education in korea!
please read my posts more carefully!
but, saying that americans are not racist, i don't know about that. you don't know what kind of shit i had to go through living in america (and europe and latin america in travels) and what kind of perception that we have to overcome.
umm i never said that!, again you didnt read my post, of course some americans are racists too, but im sure prostitute houses in usa will service you.
but i know for a fact in australia and thailand, and usa, canada there are korean houses where again! they will not allow foreigners! why? why dont you give me some story.
american men are better? then, why does it appear that most korean women prefer their own folks than whites? besides the macho problemactic assholes, there are many successful (korean girls are materialistic), good-looking, and nice korean guys - whom they will get along with better, communicate better, like the same things more, fit in and get parents approval for. yes, .
oh come on! we are talking about prostitutes, hookers, girls who sleep with men only for money. they are cheap dirty *****s, im not talking about nice girls! girls from good homes! church girls!! im talking about korean sluts! you service 5 -10 girls night. dont confuse yourself, we are tlaking about *****s afterall.
please stay on the conversation.
your post had some good ideas, but it was littered with bunch of bs insinuations.
no, pussy dog! you got offended as you thought i was putting down your people and your race, deep down you know what i say is true. but bravo for sticking up for your country!
but remember i am talking about korean sluts in the rld!! dont confuse what i say ! dont try to say i am talking korea or koreans im talking about a small cheap dirty minority! who only care about money! and they turn tricks to get it! and yes!! they are korean!
we think it is interesting but if the guy looks good it is nothing special. for the normal case, we never give a shit. but interesting cases are interesting to all people.
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and who are you now? the speaker of all koreans?
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it is true that korean guys do not want to buy the ladies who take foreigners as customers because we also fear hiv and std. korea is still holy peninsula from the aids but it is increasing and we believe that increasing hiv patients is due to foreigners and it is true. so, if a lady takes a foreigner then she will lose all korean customers so they do not want to do it.
miari used to take foreigners and korean men stopped going there because of the reasons that i mentioned above. so, miari put a plan card at every enterance of rld said we don't take foreigners. after some time, miari took its korean customers back.
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ohhhhhhh iicc!! so there is noway in hell that a korean spread aids amoung the locals? their is no way that koreans go abroad and have sex with locals across south east asia without condoms!? then come back and shagg a ***** in miari of course not! it must be a foreigner right?
do you know how many korean businessmen get caught in vietnam and cambodia every year? dyou know? well ,i know and its many
an average of 20 a month!
and if you dont believe me pick up the newspaper once and a while.
i have been to about 20 countries so far and met so many foreigners so i know about america, europe, england, and so on quite a lot. in korea, there is no racial group like kkk in america so if you say koreans are racist then what you are? a extreme racist?
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no, you dont know. what you know is, is the people you met and encounted on your visits. that doesnt mean every person abroad. dont judge a few people with a whole race!
and actually korea does have extremist groups many of them
but yes the kkk is unique and frankly they all should be shot in the head!!
but why are we getting off track now..
the kkk is a minority! lets not forget that every country has its racists!
moreover, due to the dominance of english and necessity korean people are very open to foreigners.
this will be my last explanation to correct your misconception and i don't want to argue with you guys but having a clear understnading is importnat so i stood here to make you understand. business is a business and it has nothign to do with racism.
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to summarize my idea, koreans are not racist.
rlds do not want to take foreigners because they will lose korean customers.
hey, bros we are all the same human so stop this bullshit now and be friends.
just becuase koreans speak english or study english doesnt stop their hate!
dont be so nieve.
business is business? yes thats right! so what you are saying is koreans are ignorant!? wow.. ok.. so they see a successful old businessman rich walk down 588! will he get served? no! why? , "he has aids"?
yes every non asian foreigner has aids! so they dont them for safety!?
nice try buddy, but i dont think so.
we are all human? "why cant we all just get along"
yes then why dont you go down to rld and tell that to your people!
both you guys still dont have a validated reason why foreigners are refused!
i have given you plenty!
if you believe aids! is the reason! then you are calling koreans uneducated, ignorant, and mis informed!
one more time! losing customers is becuase koreans dont want to follow after a foreigner! im sure you will find that many whitemen dont want to follow after a blackman! or some people dont want to follow after a indian man! they are racist! in general! most korean men are racist! so the rld closes it to foreigners! the majority rule on that vote buddy!
just about everyone thinks some korean rld refuse non-koreans because of business. most of us all agree that a lot of koreans are racists and so are non-koreans - all cultures to an extent. now, we should actually provide more reports on p4p activities than this racism discussion. i also like to add that please post more photos because i like them greatly.
seoulman, excuse me if i misinterpreted your original posting. however, yours was written so that you appeared to be talking in generalities and not in specifics of those cheap shops, not room salons or all korean businesses (although you sprinkled that in the post) or korean men or women in general.
i always thought you and i are in agreement with regards to the business as the primary reason for why foreigners are refused in many rld - although we diverge on the root factor. we seem to agree that korean john don't want to see a girl who has been with a foreigner, so the pimps and ajumas tell girls to refuse foreigners. not many of us on the board disagree. we may be arguing 'to-ma-toe' vs 'to-may-toe' in here.
p4p is estimated, as i recall, a 2 billion dollar industry in korea. [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) problem or not (btw, men hitting women is not big reason why rld is there), koreans officials and civilian men want action from outside of their significant others, and money is being made. room salons are integral part of their social and business culture, and the cheap rld shops are connected to room salons in that action has to be provided for both poor and rich koreans. let's stay focused on primary reasons, i.e. making money, not some externalities which happen to be provided as commentary by one particular official who deals in violent crimes everyday.
we seem to diverge on a particular point, however. your argument, if i condensed it down, is this: that you think korean johns don't like seeing a shop girl if they know a foreigner has been with her because, if i am assuming this right, (1) the korean men don't like foreigners taking their women and/or (2) the koreans don't like comparing their sexual abilities and niceness to foreigners. lastly, you say it's not about guys contracting aids from a girl who did it with a foreigner.
i have said that korean men's possessiveness about their women is especially heightened when they see a foreigner with korean women. it's especially heightened for those who have stronger racist, closed-mined and xenophobic tendencies. so, i actually agree to some extent with (1) that some korean men don't want to see a girl who services foreigners. this a closed-minded society, or i can say a country with many racists. although there a lot of nice things about the koreans, i don't deny this.
but, i disagree with (2). feeling insecure from comparing how nice they are with p4p working girls or the korean monger's sexual abilities against foreigners'? i don't know about that. i can't speak for korean guys because i was raised in usa and don't consider myself korean or having a full korean experience. but do you actually believe korean men in general get pissed off because they have to compare their sexual styles or prowess... or even how nice foreigners treat the girls? i am no expert, but i don't think this is an issue. some guys, all over the world, have insecurity about their relations with pro and civilian girls and about their sexual abilities, but you are suggesting that this is one of the primary reasons why korean johns in particular refuses to see *****s who see foreigners. i need to check with my korean friends, but i don't see this 'comparison' factor popping up as an issue for them in the mongering activities.
even if an issue (which i doubt), i doubt this is the reason why they don't want to see a particular hot korean girl for whom they have a hard-on, especially when these girls provide 15 minutes of cheap dump & run sex. you suggest that you were talking about cheap *****s and that these girls are different from regular girls. well, think... why would korean mongers care if they are nice to a cheap *****s or show how great their manliness is to them? they won't, and these girls are not going to provide commentaries about why the monger is worse than another guy - be it a foreign dude or not.
we already agree that pimps and ajumas tell girls to say no to foreigners, but girls would like to say yes. however, you insist that std is not the main reason, and i disagree. i already said it's a propaganda that korean johns and girls are pure and that foreigners carry stds. but, it's a myth and perception that still worries them. shoot, i even like this cozy idea, even if it's not true.
but, it's still the main reason - a clincher to get a girl stigmatized and ruin her business. a korean monger's hard-on is not going to get killed by comparisons but by fear of dying, or rather fear of embarrassment with family and friends while dying with aids. they still believe that it's safer with girls who don't see foreigners.
call this foolish idea racism, stupidity, lack of education or ignorance of korean mongers. but, fear of std from foreigner is still the primary business reason why p4p houses refuse them and gets houses stigmatized.
btw, given a chance, a lot of mongers, foreigners and koreans alike, would go bareback safely. it so happens that koreans want to continue to do so and would like to keep the risks down. (you would too if you were korean monger - remember the little head rules.) and, that's anyway possible -even if they have to be mean to foreigners or be close-minded. i know it's really unfair, but things will change, just about everything with this country and the world.
Possessed Seoul
04-06-06, 16:10
Christ man, good response, but why do we keep feeding bitter kyopo trolls on message boards? Most of the fuckers perpetuate the same racial myths that the Han-fascists do here, so why bother replying, I would'nt [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the cunts if they and their mothers were on fire. Westerners smell of butter, yeah right, you ever had to sit in a crowded subway from Ilsan to Bundang at sparrow fart in the moring where everyone reeks of fuckin Kimchi? Give me a friggin break.
There is also the usual high-class hotel bar option where some smoking-hot working girls may be encountered -- for example, JJ Mahoney's at the Hyatt Hotel.
Unless things have changed at JJ's in the last year or so, I'd stay away from this option. The girls were older and very expensive W300K.
I was last there on a Saturday night in Jan with a date, and the non-working girls there are definitely smoking hot though. If you want to go after the non-working girls, Korean definitely helps.
Song Seung Heon
04-07-06, 00:10
I haven't been there in a month or so. I am back in the states, and won't be returning any soon. Last time I've been there, chose a stunner in the main narrow row. Her face reminded me of Paris Hilton korean version, she had a nice body, big full ass. I paid 70,000 won, usually 15 minutes, I got around 30-35 minutes. She gave me two bbbj, and I barebacked her in multiple positions. I was doggying her from behind, my dick would was too limp to go in.I tried squeezing it in there several times and it was jut not hard. Next was missionary, I was rubbin my dick with her clit to get some sensation goin, sticked it in there and and still wouldn't get hard. She sucked me again to get me hard again.My dick was too limp to continue, did not cum. Hot and young k babes ranging from 8-10's, you get to look and choose. when you hear these ho's shouting at you oppa oppa oppa!, you know your going to have a good time.
Daegu Dawg
04-07-06, 11:47
Last month on a turn-and-burn to Yongsan I saw a BBS real near the street leading to Hannam Village. I also saw another one farther down on a road to the right. Does anyone know or have anything to report about these two? I didn't find anything about them in my search in hear.
Ok guys, so I usually read most of the postings and are ready to go out and explore Seoul. Even thought the RLD's didnt do much for me, no attention from the ladies, so I rather not even try it. Girls dont want my money, oh well, ill find a place that will. So one of the places that i've checked before was on the sides of the Intercontinental Hotel. I dont really remember the name of the place, but I can guarantee you that you cannot miss THEM. There were a bunch of these places lined up. All massage parlors. Price was 200,000W and I got a good service from 2 Korean hotties. 7-8 but the service was great. Another place that I've been to was in Gangnam, at the Bang Bang intersection. The name of the massage parlor is called 'Cool', the only thing is that the service was only HJ, but I started to tease the girl and at the end she let me put a finger inside and I was hoping she will change her mind and hope on it, but no luck. Another observation was last time I was coming from ICN airport. In the Sinchon area, nearby bustop 242, I saw a little red light section with pretty hot girls, but since I was coming from the airport and due to my experiences at the Yongsan and 888 RLD's I figured that it would also be filled with uptight *****s.
Happy hunting.
Call this foolish idea racism, stupidity, lack of education or ignorance of Korean mongers. But, fear of STD from foreigner is still the primary business reason why P4P houses refuse them and gets houses stigmatized.
Btw, given a chance, a lot of mongers, foreigners and Koreans alike, would go bareback safely. It so happens that Koreans want to continue to do so and would like to keep the risks down. (You would too if you were Korean monger - remember the little head rules.) And, that's anyway possible -even if they have to be mean to foreigners or be close-minded. I know it's really unfair, but things will change, just about everything with this country and the world.
You say fear of STDS is the main reason. Ok let’s say you are right...
Then, why do so many Koreans go to Vietnam, Cambodia, Philippines, and THAILAND
And engage in p4p there??? If Koreans are such a cautious people, they would fear AIDS right?
Then your argument has no merit because everyone knows those countries have the highest AIDS victims among its P4P workers but Koreans are swarming all over the show!!
Its typical of Koreans to blame foreigners for everything... so now Korea wants to blame the foreigners for Aids epidemic in Korea... 4000 people with HIV here 90% contracted from men.. And 51% of then heterosexual! And yes there are gays in Korea
49% of them caught from homosexual! If you want to find the root of aids! It all came from a foreigner and it spread to every country in the world!! But you saying Koreans fear STDS or AIDS is a joke!!! And my argument of them doing P4p in those south Asian countries proves it.
Koreans go there with their lack of sex education sleep with girls without condoms with not a worry about aids and return back to Korea and spread the virus!
You say Korean girls fear aids from foreign mongers?? So now you are saying these uneducated women are more educated than married businessmen who take business trips to south East Asia?
95% of the *****s working in the RLD wouldn’t even know what AIDS was... or how one gets infected by it!!
Koreans love to think there are no GAYS and there are no AIDS in Korea they look for a scape goat on any issue!
You say the little head rules? My friend... you were raised in USA. You were taught sex education in school.
Do you go bareback in an rld? I don’t think any foreigner here would! Koreans do it ALL THE TIME!!
And when a girl gets AIDS, or a STD they will find someone to blame... cant blame themselves so they will blame the foreigner!
Korean men are a possessive people they want from others but they don’t want to give! It all starts from Confucius up bringing during the chosun period...to the evasion from Japan and the American occupancy also helped fuel the hatred towards to foreigners!
The reason why foreigners are not accepted in RLD is the same reason why foreigners are not accepted in certain restaurant or bars and around the city! It’s because deep down many Koreans want to blame someone... and they will rather blame foreigners
Japan is very similar! No GAIJING in certain places! Japanese, Koreans in general most men get jealous when they see their woman with foreigners!! This goes for non P4P girls too... but you would not understand what it means for us. Because you are Korean... many of my friends have been rudely verbalized in the street walking with their girlfriends or Korean wives!
They have been picked on at been in fights because they are holding a Korean girls hand, the Korean girls get teased and called ****, *****s, etc... When seen with a foreigner!! Is this because the Korean men worry about her catching AIDS?????
You present a nice argument, but your argument is fueled of patriotism, your mind is clouded! And you are not thinking straight. You are more about protecting your Koreans image than debating this correctly.
Non P4p action, abuse, stares, verbal insults, towards both the foreign man and the Korean girl are a daily occurance for foreigners and their Korean girlfriends here! And all the ABUSE comes from KOREAN MEN!!
Last thing they want to see is the foreign men doing there women in the RLD too!! Because that’s exactly what they think
They think the girls belong to them!! All comes back to the Confucius mentality I was talking about, about Korean men being a possessive people! You should watch Korean men treat their woman! They treat them as second rate objects!!
But the generations are changing and that male dominate way of thinking is dropping, younger girls don’t put up with that BS anymore! So you are right about one thing! Its is changing!!
koreans are prejudices and discriminate its very true! from government to legislation they even discrimate towards half blooded koreans!
its not until someone like HINES WARD who has some korean blood in him helps this..Koreans love it when their name is in lights.. they didnt care who he was before he was MVP!! and thats how korea always is!
they only want to hear the good!!
read the paper sometimes! mixed blood koreans raised here from the past 50 years were crying on TV saying how they were treated from their fullblooded koreans! called names! teased, abused! etc.. I have friends here mixed relationship couples where the korean wife is afraid to raise their children here becuase of fear of being teased by being half blooded!! why would she fear this???
fear of aids????
many Koreans are a racist, discriminative, xenophobic people.. mostly MEN!
and I have heard this many times from Koreans who have lived outside of korea and were educated through travel!
I am not putting down korea! I am not trying to insult your people!
I love korea and the Koreans I know.. Every country has its problem..
USA has to many to mention on here.. and so does my country!
but what I say is from living here 8 years! and what I have gathered, read about, witnessed and experienced!
Chris Gomez
04-08-06, 08:13
Gents,
I just arrived in Seoul. My first time here and I am staying at the Somerset. Doesn't look to be an ideal place, but I'll be here for close to a month, so they put me up here.
I need some help on the landscape in this area. Any massage parlors, strip joints, or even bars? Not in the SW scene. Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks
Seoulman, like I said, it's totally a blame game. You cite all these things about Korean men going bb when they travel and spreading their std in Korea. Fine. I agree that happens. I even think they get their most of their aids cases in Korea as result of Koreans going abroad. But, they STILL scapegoat foreigners for having it more.
You can agree to disagree that you believe it's their possessiveness and I believe it's the misguided fear of foreigner's std - as the main factor. Okay?
You brought also an interesting comment about confucianism and Korean male possessiveness. Age-old angle of confucianism which I haven't considered in this discussion. I have to think about that, but it's a powerful argument there.
Btw, I admit it. I went bb few times. Depends on what you call it. BBBJ nearly all the time, but BBFS 2 times in Korea. Western sex education won't help in this. Not for just me or a lot of others. We all know the risk factors, but some of us will still take the risk occasionally. I am also on a USA board where they talk about bbfs at a popular Asian Massage Parlor in the states, and other ISG country boards talk about guys going bb with particular girls, etc. A lot of guys, from anywhere with sex education or not, will push the envelople.
Finally, I am not totally interested in defending Korea. I don't even call it my country. I am very patriotic American. My interest is only in trying to spread some understanding of what's going on. It doesn't take many months living here and the news to realize that Koreans are fughed up. However, if someone wants to live here, do business, or get poontang, one has to get to a good understanding of why and how things are here, although you don't have to accept all the bs.
Personally, Korea is fun, but I'd never live here too long.
Spotted Dick
04-08-06, 13:41
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Under the "User CP" there is a page of options!!!! On the left-hand side there is a column with a box at the bottom entitled "Miscellaneous"; one of the options is "Buddy/Ignore Lists"!!!!
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GuyinHawaii
04-08-06, 16:15
Seoulman,
Well said!
Went to an anma last night. Called New York Sauna and its just behind the building of the national Tourist information center near the beginning of the Cheonggye-chon stream. Please refer to the Seoul map attached as a jpg.
SeoulSurvivor gave me this hint, saying they have nice girls and as I will explain later, he was right.
It is located on the 6th floor of this building, easy to see with the New York sign. They quoted 210 kW which is much and could be a foreigner surcharge (I don’t know), but I wanted to give it a try as it is in walking distance from my stay and of course I wanted to ‘prove’ the girls quality.
The process is a bit different as in other anmas. So you are first guided to a locker room change your clothes there to a ‘yukatta’ (Japanese) and visit the sauna. This means that by using the sauna you wash yourself and brush the teeth. But its pretty relaxing to do so before the ‘service’. So I used the sauna, cleaned, ‘slipped’ into the yakutta and coming out was guided to the service rooms that looked like typical anma.
The girl was already in and I could immediately see that SeoulSurvivor was right. Wow!!
For my rating she was close to a 9 and the body itself somewhere between 9 and 10 according to my taste. She was more on the skinny side with arms and legs, maybe 1,60-165 heights, but only about 45kg weight I guess. But different from other skinny type girls that have sometimes almost no breasts, her breasts fitted perfectly to her body. Not the real big absolute volume (so volume freaks might rate different), but well formed fitting perfectly to her body. All natural, as I could see. As well the hip, the ass and the pubic hair was well trimmed and everything fitted to a perfect composition like you would design it if you could. Wow!
She asked if I had visited the sauna, so she skipped the shower/ cleaning and started with a face massage. A really good one with some cream first then massage, then careful cleaning and then a masque. While having the masque (with holes, so I could see what was going on) she prepared something.
Next step was the breast/ body to skin massage from rear. First Breast to body, then removing some of the massage oil and then Tongue licking my skin from feet to head. Additional attention was given to my rear hole which she licked about 2 minutes and really somehow intensive, not just passing. Great!
I was asked to turn and the body to body and tong licking procedure was given to my front side. After that she started the BBBJ (using also mouth wash in-between) – good feel but a bit short (1 minute) as she then put on the condom and continued with a CBJ for about another 1-2 minutes. Then she slowly inserted my dick. Not at all any comment of the size as I had experienced in other anmas before. She seemed to have not at all a problem with that even if she was skinny. Inside she was a bid wider then I expected due to her skinny body, but maybe she had a Baby – but no other indication to see.
I could do all positions I liked and she seemed experienced with all directions as she mutually understood what I was having in mind and brought her supportive in the right position. No hesitation to accept my dick in its full length. I could put her legs ‘out of the way’ as I liked. An experienced fucker.
Unfortunately I was not able to come for some reason – maybe due to her being a bit wide, but also my condition was a bit weak, but my dick worked well without falling down. So the fucking part was rather extended in the various positions until I gave up.
I used my non-coming for an intensive DATY which she allowed with no hesitation. I could move and stretch her legs in any position that allowed best pussy eating and of course the nice compact breasts got their part as well, getting hard by that. I think she enjoyed it – as I was using my best ‘Girlfriend impression mode’ for the DATY. Could be that she was coming – but not sure- as her taste changed from the glide cream taste to real pussy fluid taste – rather flowing. Also I noticed her to produce some noise that she tried to hide, but she had closed eyes and was breathing more intensive. I guess it does not happen often to her that she gets some service in return and was hesitating to let herself go out of control. But also she never made a try to stop my DATY.
I enjoyed really to do this to her and it was a kind of offset for my missing coming. Wow wow wow that’s fun.
After noticing her some shake through the body – still don’t know if this was coming or not- I made a last try to come in some positions, but I failed and gave up. Otherwise she might have been in trouble with the time.
She did not do DFK, but during the session I tried from time to time, but without too much pushing. She got a bit more ‘allowable’ but still not full DFK. As I said I did not want to push it, but one of the next visits she might allow. But I will give her time, as I am a nice guy.
The fucking portion was maybe almost 45 minutes of the total hour, but including maybe 10-15 min DATY.
After ‘giving up’ she showered me in the bathroom, I kissed her and touched her breast and body. Then some staff let me out.
Wow, what a great fun and experience! Damage high, but my overall best anma visit so far, even if I did not come. But I will get back there for sure.
Regards
Brain666
Sorry forgot the Location of my previous pust.
Here is New sork Sauna. (jpg. below)
Here is the link to Soeul map
http://asp.congnamul.com/seoul/english/map.jsp
Regards,
Brain666
90% Koreans don't do bareback in RLD.
99% Koreans don't do bareback in foreign countries.
korean people know using condom is a must to protect themselves.
No sex education in Korea? there is sex education and sex education starts in elementary school until high school graduation..
There are many foreigners who go bareback.
90% Koreans don't do bareback in RLD.
99% Koreans don't do bareback in foreign countries.
korean people know using condom is a must to protect themselves.
No sex education in Korea? there is sex education and sex education starts in elementary school until high school graduation..
There are many foreigners who go bareback.Cocorosco,
I think this is going to turn in a way 'I just say the opposite'. Sad to here that you are captured in your box, even knowing you are wrong (like many other typical korean?).
Belong the 90% of Koreans seems to be yourself as I just figured by your previous report.
yesterday, went wan wall dong with a friend of mine at 4ish AM.
paid 60,000*2 for two persons for S/T.The girl was not my type but looks ok so I took her and went up to her room.
She got showered and I undressed. As I was drunk I ate her pussy a lot, kissing a lot and fuck for a long time.
She felt and gave me a GFE.
Quite satisfied, but during the session I unpluged my condom and cum in her.
A little worried about thatThe point here is that the foreigners (or lets say most) in this city, are coming for business specially elected from their companies due to their skills. This includes as well the so called soft skills which include bahavior to woman.
All the boring average people including the racist thinking stay back home in our home countries as they would have never asked by our companies to do business in Korea.
So the foreigners you see here are probably the upper 20% in soft skills of our countries. Means practically 'nice guys' (never say that there might be no exception). If we from our countries best 20% would meet only the best 20% of Korea, it would be no issue to talk here. But of course we are in the middle of the 'boring 100% avarage' here, so all the things happan as discussed.
The same would be in the opposite direction if this debate would be done in our home countries. The upper 20% class elected Koreans might be the much more soft skilled ones then the 100% boring average you would be confronted with in our home countries.
Lets stop this discussion now. I would prefer more posts about mongering then racist or other discussions.
Regards,
Brain666
90% Koreans don't do bareback in RLD.
99% Koreans don't do bareback in foreign countries.
korean people know using condom is a must to protect themselves.
No sex education in Korea? there is sex education and sex education starts in elementary school until high school graduation..
There are many foreigners who go bareback.
Cocoroso
So why is it that only foreigners go bareback? I know many foreigners who head to the RLDs and none of them go Bareback. Where are you getting this from? Why is it you seem to say the opposite of whatever anyone else says. You seem to take everything personally.
RM
Cocoroso
So why is it that only foreigners go bareback? I know many foreigners who head to the RLDs and none of them go Bareback. Where are you getting this from? Why is it you seem to say the opposite of whatever anyone else says. You seem to take everything personally.
RM
I diidn't say only foreigners go bareback. I mean korean people also use condom and when they go to RLD they also are cautious and there are also many foreigners who have sex without condom.
You also can find barebackers on this forum. check pictures on other nation's category then you can find some.
I didn't take it personally. I am just telling the truth. As seoulman told that koreans are lack of sex education and sleep with girls without condom. This is not true. Korean people don't use condom when they have sex with GF or Wife.
Lionheart8
04-10-06, 03:27
I've been in Korea for more than a year and while the reports here have been really interesting (and enticing), I have yet to ro to any of the RLDs or saunas (Anmas). My usual mongering destinations are Hong Kong and Macau where my buddies are (somehow mongering is more fun when you go out as a group isn't it?).
Nevertheless, on the advice of a friend when I first arrived, I joined Korean Friendfinder. No doubt I've read some of the reports here about the difficulty in getting to know girls from this website. But I thought, no harm...no foul. Nothing to lose.
I am Asian but not a Gyopo. However, I speak passable Korean. I don't know whether it's the main factor, but I believe it is a definite advantage. In this past one year, I have had some measure of success. By "success", I mean (for want of a better word) "scoring".
IMHO, I think Korean girls are curious about foreigners. If you speak some Korean, they find it amusing and that immediately lightens the mood, even on the first date. As with any other dates, it takes time so there's a need to be patient. It might take 3 - 4 dates before the girl even agrees to come to your apartment.
More importantly, treat them really nicely during dinner, desserts, coffee. Always send them home (offer it anyway even when they refuse). If you know what they really like, or if they are into collectibles, give a small gift of such to them on the next date. At the very least, they will feel appreciated.
I do kow that it is a hit or miss thing. But out of every 10 letters I send out on KFF, I get one response that eventually leads to a date. Of course not every date will lead on to more intimate adventures. That's why it's a hit and miss thing. But I have been pleasantly surprised by how willing some girls are to spend time with you. If they allow you to hold their hand when you are strolling in the park, then I'd say that that's almost a confirmed score (at least on subsequent dates).
If you invite them home, it is very (no, make it extremely) important that your place is clean and neat. Impressions are everything, my fellow Seoulmates. Always have a bottle of wine ready. Have soft mood lighting and soft music playing. I know this is corny but it works with Korean chicks.
Anyway, as I said before, patience is the key. If the girl wants to take it slow, then take it slow. But you should always gauge her response by gently trying to go further. In other words, if she allows you to hold her hands, try to kiss her when you say goodnight. If she allows you to kiss her goodnight, try to kiss her when you are in the car or home next time. And if she allows you to kiss her, try to let your hands roam. Basically, her reactions is your guide.
Of course some girls would only want to do the hokey-pokey if you are their boyfriend. But then again, sometimes words doesn't translate into action. If they like you, they will still go for it. In that sense, I think Korean gals can be very liberal and straightforward.
Anyway, this is just some of my impressions. Different guys, different strokes. So for some other guys, other methods might work just as well. For me, just bringing them out for dinner, listening to them and buying them the occassional gifts work wonders. To date, I have been successful with five Korean chick. KFF has also yielded a success with a Russian student and an American teacher. It's been effective for me.
Just my two cents worth. Cheers!!
I enjoyed the comments from you to a certain degree, as it was quite amusing to read your personal opinion about the why’s of getting refused as foreigner in Korean RLD’s.
It was really enjoyable to read the argumentation and your point of view, but now, you try to distort Facts about Korea, stating facts which are not true and not backed up. This I have to clarify in order to avoid that anyone gets are wrong picture about Korea.
About Aids. South Korea's has one of the lowest HIV infection rates in Asia. Official statistics show that men account for nearly 89 percent of Koreans with HIV. About 94 percent of all South Koreans contracted the virus through sexual transmission, with 67 percent from heterosexual intercourse and 30 percent from homosexual intercourse, according to the National Institute of Health. As of 2004/11/07 there are 389 reported AIDS cases, and it is estimated that approx. 8000 persons have HIV.
These are backed up facts. I find it regrettable that you distort these facts by stating that 49% of HIV infected are gays. This is not true and one more remark, we are well aware that there are Gays. Your comment that " Koreans love to think there are no GAYS and there are no AIDS in Korea " reflect your own education and childish level of thinking.
To state "It all starts from Confucius up bringing during the chosun period. To the evasion from Japan and the American occupancy also helped fuel the hatred towards to foreigners! is an assumption made by somebody who has no idea about the Korean history, tradition and culture. To compare the Japanese occupation with the American presence from 1945 can only be written by somebody really uneducated and who has no idea about these subjects.
Even to state "All comes back to the Confucius mentality I was talking about, about Korean men being a possessive people! You should watch Korean men treat their woman! They treat them as second rate objects! "shows again, that you have no idea about the Korean culture and that you do not understand what Confucianism stands for. I am really wondering, how comes that a male in his thirties has a argumentation like a Kindergarten child.
State your personal opinion, this is not wrong. But do not distort facts which you obviously do not understand for your argumentation, and please do not try to give the impression that you know Korea. Sorry to say, you have no idea about this country, its culture, its traditions and its people, but you want to give the impression to everybody that you are the buddy who knows Korea and this is wrong.
As you have a lot of hate against Korean man, I am very sorry for your bad experiences caused by a minority, but such a stupid minority is always present. But it is a minority and do not judge the majority for a stupid minority.
You know the place Won il dong that Cocoroso is talking about. Well I have been there many many times(More then 20). It is in Busan and its close to Jagalchi fish market. Now as for how many Koreans go bareback and all of that. I had almost every chick I banged there ask me if it was okay if I was to wear a condom. On a few occasions I asked the girl why she would even bother to ask. Each time their reply was that Korean men dont like to wear condoms. Now why would they say that? Are they lying? NO MATTER how many bottles of Vodka I would have there would be never a chance of me not wearing a condom there. Those chicks are dirty! The area is kinda dirty too!
Any thoughts ?
RM
Lionheart8
04-10-06, 18:37
You know the place Won il dong that Cocoroso is talking about. Well I have been there many many times(More then 20). It is in Busan and its close to Jagalchi fish market. Now as for how many Koreans go bareback and all of that. I had almost every chick I banged there ask me if it was okay if I was to wear a condom. On a few occasions I asked the girl why she would even bother to ask. Each time their reply was that Korean men dont like to wear condoms. Now why would they say that? Are they lying? NO MATTER how many bottles of Vodka I would have there would be never a chance of me not wearing a condom there. Those chicks are dirty! The area is kinda dirty too!
Any thoughts ?
RMIMHO there will always be men who are irresponsible, regardless of race or nationality. Some guys just want to go bareback. They may assume the chance of them catching Aids or some other VD is slim. The statement that Korean men does not wear condoms when they go to the RLDs can just as easily be applied to men from other countries. I'm hazarding a guess but I don't think I'm too far off the mark to say that Korean men don't like to wear condoms because they assume Korean women are "clean" (i.e. VD free), even those at the RLD. It's a risk they take and it's a risk they may have to live with if they catch something.
My point is, different men gets off in different ways. Some like it bareback, some don't. Some would not even want BBBJ, even if the women have mouthwash. Some men love to DATY while some men are put off by the "bushiness" of Korean women down there.
Men love sex and talking about sex (that's why we are in this forum isn't it?). But for me, safe sex is always a must, whether it's with a woman at the RLD or someone you meet at a dinner party. I enjoy the experience of being with a woman, even at the RLD. But I would never do the deed without the raincoat.
Song Seung Heon
04-11-06, 01:25
RLD's= pussy heaven
You know the place Won il dong that Cocoroso is talking about. Well I have been there many many times(More then 20). It is in Busan and its close to Jagalchi fish market. Now as for how many Koreans go bareback and all of that. I had almost every chick I banged there ask me if it was okay if I was to wear a condom. On a few occasions I asked the girl why she would even bother to ask. Each time their reply was that Korean men dont like to wear condoms. Now why would they say that? Are they lying? NO MATTER how many bottles of Vodka I would have there would be never a chance of me not wearing a condom there. Those chicks are dirty! The area is kinda dirty too!
Any thoughts ?
RM
RLDS are the cheapest fuck places and girls are cheap. So, to make enough moeny to compensate for their contribution? or sacrifice?? they need to fininsh the session short and this is why they always push bareback and always say other people don't use condom. BUt, you know almost all cusomers at RLD use condom and if you believe what her said and did not use condom you are just a fool.
We used to avoid using condom when I was young(about 14 years ago to 10 years ago?) but not any more. I now rarely go to RLD. maybe 1 time a year and I usually go to anma or take girls from room salon. if you say i don't want to use condom they will say then you will have no sex.
Yes, I know it is true that there are many ignorant koreans who don't know how dangeruos having bareback sex now even in Korea is but they still know korea is still clean from AIDS comparing to other countries so some people don't want to use condom. But, majority of punters use condom and there are always exceptions. I even heard that in America sometimes people don't use condom when fucking hookers. So, this is not that arguable issue we are still on.
I've been in Korea for more than a year and while the reports here have been really interesting (and enticing), I have yet to ro to any of the RLDs or saunas (Anmas). My usual mongering destinations are Hong Kong and Macau where my buddies are (somehow mongering is more fun when you go out as a group isn't it?).
Nevertheless, on the advice of a friend when I first arrived, I joined Korean Friendfinder. No doubt I've read some of the reports here about the difficulty in getting to know girls from this website. But I thought, no harm...no foul. Nothing to lose.
I am Asian but not a Gyopo. However, I speak passable Korean. I don't know whether it's the main factor, but I believe it is a definite advantage. In this past one year, I have had some measure of success. By "success", I mean (for want of a better word) "scoring".
IMHO, I think Korean girls are curious about foreigners. If you speak some Korean, they find it amusing and that immediately lightens the mood, even on the first date. As with any other dates, it takes time so there's a need to be patient. It might take 3 - 4 dates before the girl even agrees to come to your apartment.
More importantly, treat them really nicely during dinner, desserts, coffee. Always send them home (offer it anyway even when they refuse). If you know what they really like, or if they are into collectibles, give a small gift of such to them on the next date. At the very least, they will feel appreciated.
I do kow that it is a hit or miss thing. But out of every 10 letters I send out on KFF, I get one response that eventually leads to a date. Of course not every date will lead on to more intimate adventures. That's why it's a hit and miss thing. But I have been pleasantly surprised by how willing some girls are to spend time with you. If they allow you to hold their hand when you are strolling in the park, then I'd say that that's almost a confirmed score (at least on subsequent dates).
If you invite them home, it is very (no, make it extremely) important that your place is clean and neat. Impressions are everything, my fellow Seoulmates. Always have a bottle of wine ready. Have soft mood lighting and soft music playing. I know this is corny but it works with Korean chicks.
Anyway, as I said before, patience is the key. If the girl wants to take it slow, then take it slow. But you should always gauge her response by gently trying to go further. In other words, if she allows you to hold her hands, try to kiss her when you say goodnight. If she allows you to kiss her goodnight, try to kiss her when you are in the car or home next time. And if she allows you to kiss her, try to let your hands roam. Basically, her reactions is your guide.
Of course some girls would only want to do the hokey-pokey if you are their boyfriend. But then again, sometimes words doesn't translate into action. If they like you, they will still go for it. In that sense, I think Korean gals can be very liberal and straightforward.
Anyway, this is just some of my impressions. Different guys, different strokes. So for some other guys, other methods might work just as well. For me, just bringing them out for dinner, listening to them and buying them the occassional gifts work wonders. To date, I have been successful with five Korean chick. KFF has also yielded a success with a Russian student and an American teacher. It's been effective for me.
Just my two cents worth. Cheers!!Congratulations!
You described exactly what I would expect it about. To be patient is the key for success. But I think its not only for Korean girls. Its global practice. It also remainds me how it was as a teenager. Wasn't it similar?
As long as you have the right feeling when it is ready to do the next step you will succeed. Control the pressure between your legs. If this is the driving factor you will loose the road of success.
There is only one risk in this: If you are a married person living apart from your wife, it can easily happen that she is fully engaged and over time she wants more. And maybe you too. However if you have no intension for a longer relationship, it can also get crazy. Then the real problem start.
Therefore in such cases the p4p is a better option. Girlfriends can come close in the overall spending to p4p, if you just mathematically calculate the investment/ score ratio.
Continue enjoying
Regards
Brain666
Went to an anma last night. Called New York Sauna and its just behind the building of the national Tourist information center near the beginning of the Cheonggye-chon stream. Please refer to the Seoul map attached as a jpg.
SeoulSurvivor gave me this hint, saying they have nice girls and as I will explain later, he was right.
It is located on the 6th floor of this building, easy to see with the New York sign. They quoted 210 kW which is much and could be a foreigner surcharge (I don’t know), but I wanted to give it a try as it is in walking distance from my stay and of course I wanted to ‘prove’ the girls quality.
The process is a bit different as in other anmas. So you are first guided to a locker room change your clothes there to a ‘yukatta’ (Japanese) and visit the sauna. This means that by using the sauna you wash yourself and brush the teeth. But its pretty relaxing to do so before the ‘service’. So I used the sauna, cleaned, ‘slipped’ into the yakutta and coming out was guided to the service rooms that looked like typical anma.
The girl was already in and I could immediately see that SeoulSurvivor was right. Wow!!
For my rating she was close to a 9 and the body itself somewhere between 9 and 10 according to my taste. She was more on the skinny side with arms and legs, maybe 1,60-165 heights, but only about 45kg weight I guess. But different from other skinny type girls that have sometimes almost no breasts, her breasts fitted perfectly to her body. Not the real big absolute volume (so volume freaks might rate different), but well formed fitting perfectly to her body. All natural, as I could see. As well the hip, the ass and the pubic hair was well trimmed and everything fitted to a perfect composition like you would design it if you could. Wow!
She asked if I had visited the sauna, so she skipped the shower/ cleaning and started with a face massage. A really good one with some cream first then massage, then careful cleaning and then a masque. While having the masque (with holes, so I could see what was going on) she prepared something.
Next step was the breast/ body to skin massage from rear. First Breast to body, then removing some of the massage oil and then Tongue licking my skin from feet to head. Additional attention was given to my rear hole which she licked about 2 minutes and really somehow intensive, not just passing. Great!
I was asked to turn and the body to body and tong licking procedure was given to my front side. After that she started the BBBJ (using also mouth wash in-between) – good feel but a bit short (1 minute) as she then put on the condom and continued with a CBJ for about another 1-2 minutes. Then she slowly inserted my dick. Not at all any comment of the size as I had experienced in other anmas before. She seemed to have not at all a problem with that even if she was skinny. Inside she was a bid wider then I expected due to her skinny body, but maybe she had a Baby – but no other indication to see.
I could do all positions I liked and she seemed experienced with all directions as she mutually understood what I was having in mind and brought her supportive in the right position. No hesitation to accept my dick in its full length. I could put her legs ‘out of the way’ as I liked. An experienced fucker.
Unfortunately I was not able to come for some reason – maybe due to her being a bit wide, but also my condition was a bit weak, but my dick worked well without falling down. So the fucking part was rather extended in the various positions until I gave up.
I used my non-coming for an intensive DATY which she allowed with no hesitation. I could move and stretch her legs in any position that allowed best pussy eating and of course the nice compact breasts got their part as well, getting hard by that. I think she enjoyed it – as I was using my best ‘Girlfriend impression mode’ for the DATY. Could be that she was coming – but not sure- as her taste changed from the glide cream taste to real pussy fluid taste – rather flowing. Also I noticed her to produce some noise that she tried to hide, but she had closed eyes and was breathing more intensive. I guess it does not happen often to her that she gets some service in return and was hesitating to let herself go out of control. But also she never made a try to stop my DATY.
I enjoyed really to do this to her and it was a kind of offset for my missing coming. Wow wow wow that’s fun.
After noticing her some shake through the body – still don’t know if this was coming or not- I made a last try to come in some positions, but I failed and gave up. Otherwise she might have been in trouble with the time.
She did not do DFK, but during the session I tried from time to time, but without too much pushing. She got a bit more ‘allowable’ but still not full DFK. As I said I did not want to push it, but one of the next visits she might allow. But I will give her time, as I am a nice guy.
The fucking portion was maybe almost 45 minutes of the total hour, but including maybe 10-15 min DATY.
After ‘giving up’ she showered me in the bathroom, I kissed her and touched her breast and body. Then some staff let me out.
Wow, what a great fun and experience! Damage high, but my overall best anma visit so far, even if I did not come. But I will get back there for sure.
Regards
Brain666Hey guys it seems to me that exept for me you all forgot why we are here. Seems to me that I am the only one mongering in these days in Seoul. Just had my best ever anma visit (yes I am still newbee compared to some experts here) and nobody take notice from it. How about your last experiences?
FYI: condom was on.
Below is the location again. Check for the red x.
Regards,
Brain666
RLD's= pussy heavenI am waiting for this as well, even if my preferred place is the anma.
Brain666
Waykook Saram
04-12-06, 04:18
RLDS are the cheapest fuck places and girls are cheap. So, to make enough moeny to compensate for their contribution? or sacrifice?? they need to fininsh the session short and this is why they always push bareback and always say other people don't use condom. BUt, you know almost all cusomers at RLD use condom and if you believe what her said and did not use condom you are just a fool.
We used to avoid using condom when I was young(about 14 years ago to 10 years ago?) but not any more. I now rarely go to RLD. maybe 1 time a year and I usually go to anma or take girls from room salon. if you say i don't want to use condom they will say then you will have no sex.I agree with Cocoroso, if you go to an Anma or room salon they will not have sex without a condom. Remember RLD's are the bottom of the social strata in both workers and their average customer. My discussion with the girls at Miari is that about the same percentage of foriegner and Koreans go bare back.
Song Seung Heon
04-12-06, 08:24
Red light districts are there exactly for what we mongers want which is sex sex sex. Hot girls dressed in skimpy outfits advertising sex, and that is exactly what I get, maybe even more, gfe whole nine yards. grreat expierience. The rlds are very underrated in korea. . In my opinions, rlds are the places to go, affordable, quick and easy with no hassle. I even went bareback since the girls were so damn hot. Nobody in this forum seems to mention the rld's where the real gems are. Getting laid isn't a problem here , the key is in finding the right places.so I look forward to reading new reports on the rld's. my dick is very sore from too much head, I even get a rug burn from fucking is so many positions. If you have sex in mind, go to the RLD's, its as simple as that
Lionheart8
04-12-06, 09:36
There is only one risk in this: If you are a married person living apart from your wife, it can easily happen that she is fully engaged and over time she wants more. And maybe you too. However if you have no intension for a longer relationship, it can also get crazy. Then the real problem start.
Therefore in such cases the p4p is a better option. Girlfriends can come close in the overall spending to p4p, if you just mathematically calculate the investment/ score ratio.Thanks for the concurence. I agree that it might get a little crazy when they start asking you for a serious relationship. Although I am single, I am not ready for any serious commitment (at least not until the right one comes along). But I've also been quite surprised (pleasantly I might add) by some girls' willingness to spend the night with you even though you are not a couple yet. Perhaps the Korean society is becoming more liberal? Maybe.
I did have a couple of them insist on becoming more than mere lovers (or as I prefer to call it: "FFFs" - Free Fuck Friend). I usually give the standard reply that some men like to use: "I am not ready for any serious commitment yet"; "Not planning to get married", etc. etc. Some eventually will stop calling. Perhaps it's their pride....who knows? But it works for me.
If all else fails, just tell them that you're already married. They would probably scream abuse at you but certainly will stop bothering you after that. I've not had to use that excuse yet. I think using that excuse is tricky since Korea has a law against adultery. This means that the woman can sue you in court if you are already married but had deliberately given her the impression that you are single. If convicted, can get jail and also a fine. As far as I know, the law still exists but I don't think it is widely enforced. Also, I think most Korean women value their reputation and pride and usually do not pursue this legally even if they felt cheated by the foreign lover. Nonetheless, to the married Seoul-mates out there who have Korean girlfriends, do tread carefully.
Lionheart8
04-12-06, 09:41
Hey guys it seems to me that exept for me you all forgot why we are here. Seems to me that I am the only one mongering in these days in Seoul. Just had my best ever anma visit (yes I am still newbee compared to some experts here) and nobody take notice from it. How about your last experiences?
FYI: condom was on.
Brainman,
Is it possible that you got lucky? Did you managed to see the other girls working there? I have yet to check it out but from fellow bros' experiences, most Anmas have a wide range from beauties to average to downright ugly.
I have zero experience at Anmas but is there any possibility of selecting your preferred one?
You also mentioned that you paid 210K. Would anyone else know the rate that the locals pay at NY Anma?
Chris Gomez
04-12-06, 13:51
Hey guys it seems to me that exept for me you all forgot why we are here. Seems to me that I am the only one mongering in these days in Seoul. Just had my best ever anma visit (yes I am still newbee compared to some experts here) and nobody take notice from it. How about your last experiences?
FYI: condom was on.
Below is the location again. Check for the red x.
Regards,
Brain666I second that motion. Let's get back to the real reports please. Thanks Brain for the info. I'm not staying too far from that location, so I will go check it out. Do they by any chance speak any English? I'm a foreigner with an Asian background. I've been getting turned away, for I don't speak Korean. Any recommendations on how I can get around this? I don't have any local contacts to help me out. Thanks.
Brainman,
Is it possible that you got lucky? Did you managed to see the other girls working there? I have yet to check it out but from fellow bros' experiences, most Anmas have a wide range from beauties to average to downright ugly.
I have zero experience at Anmas but is there any possibility of selecting your preferred one?
You also mentioned that you paid 210K. Would anyone else know the rate that the locals pay at NY Anma?
If you have a girl's name you can call her but you can not see the line of girls or pictures of them. They are called for the next customer when they finish the previous one.
I second that motion. Let's get back to the real reports please. Thanks Brain for the info. I'm not staying too far from that location, so I will go check it out. Do they by any chance speak any English? I'm a foreigner with an Asian background. I've been getting turned away, for I don't speak Korean. Any recommendations on how I can get around this? I don't have any local contacts to help me out. Thanks.
The girl did not speak any comutikative english, unfortunately. Too bad.
But we came along well and as I already wrote, she almost always imagined pretty early which position I had in mind.
With my total 4 visits I have not been refused. Also in the shop idescribed- acceptance was no problem. Seems to be less a problem in the anmas. So just try it. Of course this board here helps to have a lower refuse rate.
I personally like the whole anma process. Rather a new experience for me. When ever I got a real healthy face mask, massage and total body treating finally leading to a real sex session?
I like this much more then the RLD's with the ex and hop method. 210 kW is unfortunately rather high, but it seams that in Yanhangpeong the competition is high so that the same process might be possible for 120 kW. That is for a 1h total process a good relation to an RLD if you don't count only shots.
regards an please guys tell your experiences
Brain666
Brainman,
Is it possible that you got lucky? Did you managed to see the other girls working there? I have yet to check it out but from fellow bros' experiences, most Anmas have a wide range from beauties to average to downright ugly.
I have zero experience at Anmas but is there any possibility of selecting your preferred one?
You also mentioned that you paid 210K. Would anyone else know the rate that the locals pay at NY Anma?
So far I never had a chance to select somebody. No pictures to choose from. The hint that tey have nice girls, I got from SeoulsSurvivor, saying they have pretty nice ones. As he said it and my experience was aready a hit, I belive it.
As you can see on my other reports I also experienced some 'miss' in other clubs.
regards
Brain666
PS: Just see that I was upgraded to senior member and my reports are published without waiting time now. Goog.
Spotted Dick
04-13-06, 15:27
The "Lexy" Anma (massage parlor) in Kangnam near the Renaissance Hotel has great service and they set me up with a hot girl (5' 10", flat belly) who spoke English very well indeed. And I speak Korean at a reasonable level. I'm sure any non-Korean who turns up there and gasps out "English... Girl... Argh... Massagee?" will do just fine.
W200,000 for slip-n-slide on the table. There is a nice jacuzzi in the room.
Spotted Dick
04-13-06, 15:33
I haven't been to New York Sauna in a while, but last time I went the price was W180,000. Other saunas these days have moved to a W200,000 price point pretty consistently, so New York at W210,000 seems within the realm of reason. Anyway, if you spend W25,000 on a taxi or two hours of your life on the subway to save W10,000-20,000, you haven't made much of a bargain.
Brainman,
Is it possible that you got lucky? Did you managed to see the other girls working there? I have yet to check it out but from fellow bros' experiences, most Anmas have a wide range from beauties to average to downright ugly.
I have zero experience at Anmas but is there any possibility of selecting your preferred one?
You also mentioned that you paid 210K. Would anyone else know the rate that the locals pay at NY Anma?
To AMPM and Big Kahuna, thanks for the info but I have given up on finding Star Anma. I did ask someone on the street and he said that Star Anma is closed or the name has changed.
I finally went to the area across from Nambu Bus Terminal. This place is a fest full of Anmas and Noreban. I walked around for a while and ended up in one where the attendant let me in but once inside Adjuma scold him and told me that I was not allowed. Oh well, walked around some more and ended up at the Komodo Anma. This place is high class all the way but the cost is a whopping 200,000.w, way more than I like to pay but I wanted to try it so I did.
Pay first and up to the 5th Floor where I changed into a robe and about five minutes later a blind adjuma entered and I thought oh shit! Is this what I get? She gave me the massage with the robe on, nice enough massage and was done about 40 mins later; she called the front desk and told me "An-young". I am sitting in the room watching TV waiting to see what is next. Ten minutes later nothing. Got dress went down stairs and the escort girl that takes customers up to the rooms grabbed my arm and started to apologize because they were so busy, ask me to wait in the room for another five minutes.
Went back to the room and she came in and took me up to the 9th floor. I'm only in my robe, wallet and in pants in the room on the 5th floor but that was ok, when I went back down to the 5th floor, everything was where I left it.
The prize really was on the 9th floor, inside the room was this gorgeous fox, said she was 25, had fake boobs, they were way too big for a Korean girl. She was dressed in school attire, but real short skirt, but just the most beautiful smile and she acted like we long lost lovers. Gave me a shower, then made me sit in a joy rider type chair where she soaped me down and did some body to body with her fake boobs, some bbbj and she rinse me off and she made a little salad from the cut out hole under the chair. All the while smiling and caressing me, went to the bed some more bbbj and then cfs, seems like every position was available. She had just the most pleasant smell especially down there but I just can’t bring myself to do that with these girls especially knowing that some one was probably with her earlier in the night so I just sniff around.
Turned her around doggy style and that is when she started to groan loudly, don’t know if was real, I didn’t care; I was humping till we both was sweating. After we were done I took a shower while she laid there, exhausted I guess but no complains about big dick, although she did lube up pretty good.
This place is a class act all the way, at the front desk they invited me to come back and bring my friends. Don’t know when my gf will let me out again or when I can sneak out so I will cherish this memory for a while. You can sleep there over night if you want, the girl did offer that to me but I would not be able to explain why I was out all night so I passed.
This location is across from Nambu Bus Terminal cross the street passed KFC and walk down the street until you reach the Imperial Gold Korean restaurant (that will be across the street) turn right down that alley road and walk all the way own to where the hotels are look for a Family Mart store in front of the Hotel Art turn left and then you will see the Komodo Anma. I have the business card but it is in Korean, great experience but a little costly, but I suppose it is in line with other Anma's prices.
Lionheart8
04-13-06, 18:48
So far I never had a chance to select somebody. No pictures to choose from. The hint that tey have nice girls, I got from SeoulsSurvivor, saying they have pretty nice ones. As he said it and my experience was aready a hit, I belive it.Thanks. I often hear that girls in Kangnam are much prettier and classier than those in Kangbuk. But with your endorsement and Seoul Survivor's recommendation, I think I just might give NY Anma a try. It's really close to my office anyway. If I do, I'll be sure to post my report.
Big Kahuna
04-13-06, 21:05
To AMPM and Big Kahuna, thanks for the info but I have given up on finding Star Anma. I did ask someone on the street and he said that Star Anma is closed or the name has changed.
I finally went to the area across from Nambu Bus Terminal. This place is a fest full of Anmas and Noreban. I walked around for a while and ended up in one where the attendant let me in but once inside Adjuma scold him and told me that I was not allowed. Oh well, walked around some more and ended up at the Komodo Anma. This place is high class all the way but the cost is a whopping 200,000.w, way more than I like to pay but I wanted to try it so I did.
Pay first and up to the 5th Floor where I changed into a robe and about five minutes later a blind adjuma entered and I thought oh shit! Is this what I get? She gave me the massage with the robe on, nice enough massage and was done about 40 mins later; she called the front desk and told me "An-young". I am sitting in the room watching TV waiting to see what is next. Ten minutes later nothing. Got dress went down stairs and the escort girl that takes customers up to the rooms grabbed my arm and started to apologize because they were so busy, ask me to wait in the room for another five minutes.
Went back to the room and she came in and took me up to the 9th floor. I'm only in my robe, wallet and in pants in the room on the 5th floor but that was ok, when I went back down to the 5th floor, everything was where I left it.
The prize really was on the 9th floor, inside the room was this gorgeous fox, said she was 25, had fake boobs, they were way too big for a Korean girl. She was dressed in school attire, but real short skirt, but just the most beautiful smile and she acted like we long lost lovers. Gave me a shower, then made me sit in a joy rider type chair where she soaped me down and did some body to body with her fake boobs, some bbbj and she rinse me off and she made a little salad from the cut out hole under the chair. All the while smiling and caressing me, went to the bed some more bbbj and then cfs, seems like every position was available. She had just the most pleasant smell especially down there but I just can’t bring myself to do that with these girls especially knowing that some one was probably with her earlier in the night so I just sniff around.
Turned her around doggy style and that is when she started to groan loudly, don’t know if was real, I didn’t care; I was humping till we both was sweating. After we were done I took a shower while she laid there, exhausted I guess but no complains about big dick, although she did lube up pretty good.
This place is a class act all the way, at the front desk they invited me to come back and bring my friends. Don’t know when my gf will let me out again or when I can sneak out so I will cherish this memory for a while. You can sleep there over night if you want, the girl did offer that to me but I would not be able to explain why I was out all night so I passed.
This location is across from Nambu Bus Terminal cross the street passed KFC and walk down the street until you reach the Imperial Gold Korean restaurant (that will be across the street) turn right down that alley road and walk all the way own to where the hotels are look for a Family Mart store in front of the Hotel Art turn left and then you will see the Komodo Anma. I have the business card but it is in Korean, great experience but a little costly, but I suppose it is in line with other Anma's prices.
run man,
your right, my friend sent me an email stating that star is closed but did not know the reason.
i'm glad you liked comodo, but as i previously reported YMMV at anmas, KA UL is my fav there.
BK
P.S. i like an mas with the jacuzzi in the room best. some have both jacuzzi and slip and slde table. I'll be back in Korea in a few weeks.
Lionheart8
04-14-06, 03:31
run man,
your right, my friend sent me an email stating that star is closed but did not know the reason.
i'm glad you liked comodo, but as i previously reported YMMV at anmas, KA UL is my fav there.
BK
P.S. i like an mas with the jacuzzi in the room best. some have both jacuzzi and slip and slde table. I'll be back in Korea in a few weeks.Like you, I am a sucker for rooms with jacuzzis and nice ambience. At least if the girl is so-so, you'll at least enjoy the environment. Could you recommend a few with such facilities?
Thanks
Guys,
this Saturday I wanted to explore the MIARI RLD as part of my Seoul mongering check out tours.
Reading previous reports (there are almost no reports about Miari recently) telling that foreigners get not laid there, I expected nothing more then a walk through, mainly to inspect the other way of presentation.
For the ones who want to go I repeat where it is (not so easy to find a description in this forum): Take Subway 4, head to Gireum Station (it is the 4th after Dongdaemun Station and the 5th after Dongdaemun Stadium Station) and go out Exit 10.
About 10m after exit on the right there is a plastic ‘curtain’ covering a bit the entrance of the small street. Impossible to fail, just an unusual way of entrance. Don’t hesitate! Go in, you are not in danger.
You have entered a rather huge area of small houses with large windows in front. Just follow the narrow road (no car can go there). The layout is basically a ‘1-3 small parallel streets section ‘underneath’ an expressway. It is a long way to explore, I think you can walk about 500m in this small street 1 way until you reach the other exit (but there are several side exits/ entrance besides the expressway). Then you should return and check the parallel roads and ‘intersections’. You can take a rest in between, as there are several street kitchens serving drinks, sushi and other small dishes.
It is rather dark there and at the time I went (8-9 pm Saturday) I was almost the only customer exploring the field. Business seems to be low. No fear to really go to the end! You are not in Sao Paulo, or New York Bronx, even if it feels somebody might rob you shortly, this is Korea.
In the beginning of the district you see the curtains of the windows open and the room illuminated showing the girls sitting on the floor with nice dresses. Mamasan (an older lady) is outside and try’s to attract customers. In the first 30-50m of the main road they really did not take notice of me. Seemed as it was written in some reports, that they don’t take foreigners as I expected.
Then walking further less and less windows have their curtain open, it gets darker and darker. A ‘world end’ scenery. Most of you might have gone back already. But don’t do it – continue going! There is still live there, but it is behind the curtain. If you see a mamasan outside you can be sure that girls are there. They are leally locked behind the glass windows.
Now the good news: If you have passed the first 30-50 m with the illuminated windows, and you explore the more darker part, the mamasans start asking you as a foreigner as well. ‘Sexu? Good service!’ Is the most I heard. They go to their house, open the glass door with a key, open the curtain and you get a look of a fully illuminated entrance where the girls sit on the floor in their dresses, waiting for customers. (from outside when the curtain is closed you really see no light at all!). This process seems to be a result of the crackdown. Maybe only 20% of the houses are served, but as the area is so huge there is still enough to choose from. But the police might find it difficult to identify a serviced house in case of a raid, at least enough to prepare. I even saw police suddenly, but they seemed that they have even been called by some mamasan because of a drunken visitor.
Back to the action: I got shown more and more houses and girls, and there are really nice ones. The only problem is that you might not see the total truth, as they are dressed. So your estimation skills are on a hard prove.
As I gave up to explore only by seeing the cute girls, I decided to give Miari a try. A worthwhile decision as it will turn out later!
I use the following strategy for selection: Check the face (easy) and the Body (more difficult in the dress), but especially I checked if she smiled. If she does not smile at you, she might not be happy with a foreigner and just follow mamasans forwarding.
I finally chose such a girl with a face 8 and a Body 8 (?) with a nice smile in the face using her hands to great me.
I was let in and was guided to the rear area, in a kind of tee room where I was asked to pay 70.000 Won. By the way the price level is common. Everywhere in the district at any shop is the same printed A4 paper at the window showing 2 Prices 70k and 80k. Can’t read Korean yet- what is the 80k price about – Koreans among us – please clarify. Anyhow I paid the 70k and after 2 minutes the girl came in with drinks (beer, coke and water) and a fruit plate.
She sat beside me and we started some broken chat (funny with my 5 words Korean), she came closed to me, that I immediately took her into my arms. She started feeding me with high quality strawberries; we said cheers and so on. A very nice welcome scene! While drinking she opened 3 buttons of my shirt kissed me again and her dress partly fall down (looked like by accident) showing some portion of breast. No hesitation to use the tongue while kissing- later it turned to DFK
After drinking she asked me if I want to go toilet- so I went. After that I was guided in a bedroom and she asked me to put off clothes. She disappeared for 2 minutes and I took off, also checking the time (already 10-15 min passed since entrance). She appeared in underpants only (I naked), took off her pants and cleaned my dick with whet towels, mentioning ’big size’.
Her body lost 1 Rating (from estimated 8 (in dress) to 7- naked, but that’s the risk. Still ok.
She then lay beside me, kissed me (DFK) and started licking my body all over. Ended up in BBBJ action using my whole dick (incl. balls) for licking and rather experienced BBBJ skills (not the best in my life but clearly in the upper third). This took about 3 min.
She then asked something in Korean which I did not understand, but interpreted as a choice for condom. I said ‘ne (= yes) and a condom was put over by mouth to condom technique.
She then started to ride me, then asked for missionary, which was a good feel as she was less wide then expected and my dick rather hard. Could put the whole thing in with her legs almost at her face – no problem. It was rather a good feel. I could do DATY as I wanted, but due to time limit there is no chance for an extensive session. One minute doggy style and then I returned to missionary. While fucking she made some aroused noise, which was either real or based on professional actor skills (no over doing - just as real? Or real? – I don’t know).
I was pretty hard and felt well. She mentioned something like finish (expected mamasan to knock the door shortly) and I ended in an enjoying shot supported by deep DFK’s.
She let me cool down (still in her) for a while (about a minute?) then removed the condom. She gave my dick a BBBJ kiss – yes still creamy there- and laid beside me kissing again my breast and skin. Then cleaning my dick with towels.
In the meantime mamasan (softly) knocked the door. The girl helped me to put my clothes on like mother to a 2-year child. She said good by with another kiss, and I returned to the front where I was let out, not fogetting to give me an energy drink.
Wow. I never expected this in an RLD. This was rather more a GFE then an RLD quickie.
I have no Idea if this service is Miari RLD standard, or of I was just lucky, or it is because I am usually a nice guy where girls feel comfortable. But it seems to me that the service standard is higher then in Yongsan and probably 588. They might also do it, as business seems to be slow.
I liked the whole process:
Introduction – Tee-beer-fruit ceremony- getting warm to each other and then move to action.
For Korean standards it was in addition a rather ‘value for money’ experience.
Time was 15 min for the hardcore action and another 15-20 min. for the drinking- feeding- chatting ceremony.
Got beer, fruits and an energy drink.
And the overall best news, despite all other reports: Foreigners get served in Miari. Just be a nice guy.
So Miari is now an alternative for me as I already almost had skipped the RLD’s from my activity schedules.
So if RLD, then Miari is the place to go!
Koreans among us: Please tell us if my experience is more an exception or rather standard service in Miari.
Regards
Brain666
Guys,
if you read my report below about a rather positive Miari RLD experience, I think it is time to start a field evaluation in Miari, to prove my positive experience on a broader basis.
So please head to Miari and check yourself.
And please write a bit more extended reports about it.
Koreans among us:
Tell us your experiences!
How do you experts compare the RLD services between Yongsan, 588, Miari and others? We need your – detailed - reports as well.
Miari Price table: There are 2 Prices listed on the overall common Miari price sheet. 1st line 70.000 Won, 2nd. line 80.000 Won.
I got served for 70k. What is the 80k about?
Please read and report.
Regards
Brain666
Big Kahuna
04-16-06, 10:52
Like you, I am a sucker for rooms with jacuzzis and nice ambience. At least if the girl is so-so, you'll at least enjoy the environment. Could you recommend a few with such facilities?
Thanks
Lionheart8,
The ones that have jacuzzis that I have been to are:
King, Sun, Teheran,
I have not seen any at Comodo, Mo Ahn, Roman, and a couple north of the river but its not saying that they don't have jacuzzi rooms, its just that when I went there, the room I was in did not have a jacuzzi.
Hope it helps
BK
I enjoyed the comments from you to a certain degree, as it was quite amusing to read your personal opinion about the why’s of getting refused as foreigner in Korean RLD’s.
It was really enjoyable to read the argumentation and your point of view, but now, you try to distort Facts about Korea, stating facts which are not true and not backed up. This I have to clarify in order to avoid that anyone gets are wrong picture about Korea.
About Aids. South Korea's has one of the lowest HIV infection rates in Asia. Official statistics show that men account for nearly 89 percent of Koreans with HIV. About 94 percent of all South Koreans contracted the virus through sexual transmission, with 67 percent from heterosexual intercourse and 30 percent from homosexual intercourse, according to the National Institute of Health. As of 2004/11/07 there are 389 reported AIDS cases, and it is estimated that approx. 8000 persons have HIV.
These are backed up facts. I find it regrettable that you distort these facts by stating that 49% of HIV infected are gays. This is not true and one more remark, we are well aware that there are Gays. Your comment that " Koreans love to think there are no GAYS and there are no AIDS in Korea " reflect your own education and childish level of thinking.
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I didnt distort the truth! I quoted what I read!
if you have a problem with that I suggest you take it up with the KCDC
455 more test positive for HIV/AIDS in Korea 25/10/04 -- Korea Herald
On Oct. 20, health authorities reported that 455 people tested positive for HIV in the first nine months of 2004, raising the number of resident Koreans who have been infected with the virus to 2,994. The new cases represent a 14 percent increase over new cases in the same period the previous year. All 305 cases whose route of transmission has been determined were infected sexually: 51 percent heterosexual vs. 49 percent homosexual, according to the Korean Center for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC). Since 1985, when the nation's AIDS epidemic began, 591 people died of AIDS, leaving the number living with HIV-infection at 2,403. A survey last year found that only 12 percent of adults reported using condoms during sex. In an effort to boost their use, KCDC recently launched a major campaign to improve the image of condoms. Beginning this month, KCDC and the Korea Anti-AIDS Federation introduced commercials promoting condom use. These public service announcements, aired nationwide on MBC-TV, are scheduled to run twice daily Monday through Thursday and once daily Friday through Sunday. In addition, 132 foreign residents were found to be HIV-infected: They are not included in the 455 figure. The number of foreign cases in the first nine months of 2004 was more than double the 59 foreign cases found in all of 2003. Some 80,000 formerly illegal foreign workers have undergone a required check-up that includes an HIV test, and health authorities say this explains the sharp increase in cases detected among foreigners. Immigration officials say foreigners who are diagnosed with HIV/AIDS may face deportation if they do not return home on their own.
before you try to come back with an arrogant tone you should do some research first!!!
Your comment that " Koreans love to think there are no GAYS and there are no AIDS in Korea " reflect your own education and childish level of thinking.
I think you need a sense of humor! homosexuality was closed in this country right up until I would say someone like HONG SUK CHAN came out!
and look what happend it him! that comment has merit! many koreans in the past like to believe there were no gays in korea! becuase it was looked down on! just as the US military doesnt like to admit their are gays in the military!
its been said on both sides of the fence! so just calm down!!
To state "It all starts from Confucius up bringing during the chosun period. To the evasion from Japan and the American occupancy also helped fuel the hatred towards to foreigners! is an assumption made by somebody who has no idea about the Korean history, tradition and culture. To compare the Japanese occupation with the American presence from 1945 can only be written by somebody really uneducated and who has no idea about these subjects.
and I take you you have all the answers becuase you are korean?
if you are smart sherlock! why dont you enlighten me on your opinion!
and I never compared the two occupations! I said during those occupations!
if you are going to quote me! please dont miss quote me!!
you are now just fishing!!
I
Even to state "All comes back to the Confucius mentality I was talking about, about Korean men being a possessive people! You should watch Korean men treat their woman! They treat them as second rate objects! "shows again, that you have no idea about the Korean culture and that you do not understand what Confucianism stands for. I am really wondering, how comes that a male in his thirties has a argumentation like a Kindergarten child.
I ask myself the same thing everyday when I walk past koreans!
you seem to be quick to defend your country but you never give any responses! are you telling me koreans are perfect?
are you telling me Korean men are not possesive of their wives? daughters?
you telling me Korea is not a male dominant soceity?
you telling me in the past Korean men were not seen As more superior to woman?
koreans preference for boys?emmmmmmmmmm ok.. I must be wrong!
becuase you say so!!
I must have lived the past 10 years in another country!
State your personal opinion, this is not wrong. But do not distort facts which you obviously do not understand for your argumentation, and please do not try to give the impression that you know Korea. Sorry to say, you have no idea about this country, its culture, its traditions and its people, but you want to give the impression to everybody that you are the buddy who knows Korea and this is wrong.
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everything I have said I think everyone will agree with me!
I never swore and said what I say must be right! orthats what happend!
I said in my opinion the past reflects peoples characters! traditions! cultures makes a boy the man he becames! generations have made korea guilty for the way they treat woman!, or the way foreigners are treated here NOW I NEVER SAID ALL MEN!!
I said some!! so get off your high horse buddy!!
you wish to disgree with me THATS FINE!! you try to tell me that I know nothing about korea! you try to tell me everything I say is wrong!
so let me guess!!.
you are right!!?
As you have a lot of hate against Korean man, I am very sorry for your bad experiences caused by a minority, but such a stupid minority is always present. But it is a minority and do not judge the majority for a stupid minority.
I have not had any bad experiences in korea! I have not had any bad experiences in the RLD!
I am saying it how it is!!
and what I say has merit! and facts..
problem is you dont want to hear it from a foreigner!!
Song Seung Heon
04-17-06, 06:03
Compared to other rlds like 588, yongsan. You can tell easily by the quality of girls. Tall, sexy, gorgeous, pinup type models in the rlds as mentioned above, compared to short, typical looking girls off the streets. So the main difference is quality. I personally went to Miari on certain occasions a long long time ago to check it out for the first time. That place looks like a dump, mamasans are too pushy, the area is scary, the girls are not that hot. Anyways, if your willing to go all the way to gireum station and take a shot, completely fine. In terms of service, ymmv where ever rld you go to. I banged several top notch quality girls and they were certainly not from Miari.
Hey there Brain,
Nice posts. You, Seoul Survivor, and Lionheart are carrying the board these days.
I was told that the two prices at Miari are as follows: W70,000 for cash and W80,000 for credit card.
By the way, if I see another post on here containing the words "racism" or "racist," I'm gon' have to do some damage.
Last point: If you are a regular reader of this board, you owe it to your fellow readers to post each and every time you monger. It's the way to keep this board current and up-to-date.
Now go out and meet some girls.
Ive noticed alot that Koreans can say something and there isnt a problem. However if a foreigner says it then its a national outrage. As for Koreans being anti foreigner......well what about all of those signs in businesses over the past years that say NO FOREIGNERS ALLOWED. Now if this happened in Europe or North America that business would go out of biz........and the owner would be charged with human rights violations. It happens here though and no one blinks a eye........
well what about all of those signs in businesses over the past years that say NO FOREIGNERS ALLOWED. Now if this happened in Europe or North America that business would go out of biz........and the owner would be charged with human rights violations. It happens here though and no one blinks a eye........
It's their country, their national assets/pussies and they make the rules anyway they chooses. Whatever happened to the saying "when in ROME do what the ROMAN do"??
It's their country, their national assets/pussies and they make the rules anyway they chooses. Whatever happened to the saying "when in ROME do what the ROMAN do"??Yeah guys, to a certain poin I agree on both sides. Korea is not an easy country for foreigners, but this is the way it is.. oh well. I was warned about some of the cultural differences, I've experienced some of them, but I have also met some good Korean people.
So how bout we call it on this subject and continue with business?
So this weekend I was in the Gangnam Area, decided to go get some action. I walked to the side of the Intercontinental Hotel. i now remember that the name of the place I went before was called Zeus Anma. The service there was great... overall the chicks were about an 8, service itself was a 9 for 200,000W. This time when I walked in, they told me that the service had change and they did not service any foreigners, I tried to tell them that I had been there before, but didnt change anything. So I walked over to Sun, they went ahead and took me. Charged me 200,000W, told me that it was a little busy, had to wait for about 20 mins. So I was taken to the room, and about 5 mins later a girl walks in. The girl was bout a 6-7. She took my clothes off and then proceeded to fill up the tub. Washed me off, but at that point I realized that it was going to suck! She then took me out, dried me up and threw me on the bed. Started to do a BBBJ, and then strapped the condom, hopped on me, everything so mechanical, no pasion like I had at Zeus! She didnt wanna be put in any position, then didnt even want me to touch her at all... I was so upset that it took me a while to finish. When I was done, she washed and left the room. I will for sure never return to that place. This Friday I am supposed to go to this good place with some of my Korean friends, I will post the 411 once I have it. Cheers.
Last point: If you are a regular reader of this board, you owe it to your fellow readers to post each and every time you monger. It's the way to keep this board current and up-to-date.
Now go out and meet some girls.
Good words, are you going to apply this standard and directive to yourself too?
Compared to other rlds like 588, yongsan. You can tell easily by the quality of girls. Tall, sexy, gorgeous, pinup type models in the rlds as mentioned above, compared to short, typical looking girls off the streets. So the main difference is quality. I personally went to Miari on certain occasions a long long time ago to check it out for the first time. That place looks like a dump, mamasans are too pushy, the area is scary, the girls are not that hot. Anyways, if your willing to go all the way to gireum station and take a shot, completely fine. In terms of service, ymmv where ever rld you go to. I banged several top notch quality girls and they were certainly not from Miari.
That what I saw, I can not confirm that the typical Miari girl is short and average looking. There have meen rather beauties as well. But it is much more difficult to judge them as they are rather covered compared to the other rLd's girls in their short pants and oversized shoes and the risk to fail in the optics is clearly higher.
Quality is in my opinion nut only based on a nice outside shape.
The global experience is, that in whatever country in the world, on average the real stunners are never the real impresseive ones in their services. The non top lookers need to fight harder for their customers. That makes them naughtier. So as we like it.
I can compromize some <10 rated with better services to some extend.
Ok, need more reports of miari. I want to know if the service sequence is really different. KimchiMan, you don't like Miari - I understood. But how about the process? do you like it?
regards
Brain666
So I did some Recon in Cheonho Dong last Sunday. Man is the RLD there ever huge! The problem is that most of the places dont have any girls in them. Before the crackdown this place must have been awesome! Anyway from what I saw it is the mommasans in the front touting customers and taking them in the back to the girls. I kinda looked dead but I saw guys walking in and out so there is some biz going on there. Im gonna head back there Saturday and see if biz picks up then.
Someone reported earlier that all the windows had curtains drawn with the lights on in the back. Well from what I saw and I went down all the alleys (there are 6 or so.) and no curtains but only a few like 40 or so with there lights on. This would be out of a few hundred. Hopefully the crackdown ends and the place is stocked with nice new girls.
Would be a good place to check out and isnt as far out of the way as Miari..........
Cheers
RM
I need to correct some parts of your post because your post could discort the readers of this forum.
Regarding gay, koreans did not want to believe there was no gay in Korea is not true, but they knew if someone said I am gay what happened to him and his family because of our mentalityand culture affected by Confucius. Korean including me know there are many gays that the number of gays/lezbos are smaller than other countries though.
Hong Suk Chun did a great job but should have been more cautious before coming out. The things happened to HOng Suk Chun were due to his fault with coming out on public TV that everyone was watching. It is not acceptable in Korea. But, this does not mean we don't accept that there are korean gays/lezbos.
Korean men's are possessive? In some ways, it is true but in some ways it is not true. Korea is patriarchy society and this is the difference from your country. But, I think we are not different from you because american guys are also possessive in some ways. But, you should know we are not possessive with our wives and daugters. it is personal charasteristic and some people are more possessive than others and want to control their wives and daughters.
Seoulman. as you said you said your opinions and experiences. That's fine and we all need to listen your opinion and experiences, but the problem is your saying looked like it is true because you said from statistics or accroding to something. You MUST distinguish your opinion and the facts.
Lionheart8
04-18-06, 16:17
Lionheart8,
The ones that have jacuzzis that I have been to are:
King, Sun, Teheran,
I have not seen any at Comodo, Mo Ahn, Roman, and a couple north of the river but its not saying that they don't have jacuzzi rooms, its just that when I went there, the room I was in did not have a jacuzzi.
Hope it helps
BKThanks, B.Kahuna! I assume these places are in Kangnam? Anyway, I'm gonna check them out tomorrow nite and will post a report here.
It'll be a good comparison since I just got back from "sampling" the local delights at HK and Macau (my reports on my trip are posted in those sections).
No, I'm not doing a whirlwind 3-city mongering tour. It's just that I've got lots of buddy gatherings these days so more excuses to travel I guess.
Lionheart8
04-18-06, 16:35
I need to correct some parts of your post because your post could discort the readers of this forum.
Korean men's are possessive? In some ways, it is true but in some ways it is not true. Korea is patriarchy society and this is the difference from your country. But, I think we are not different from you because american guys are also possessive in some ways. But, you should know we are not possessive with our wives and daugters. it is personal charasteristic and some people are more possessive than others and want to control their wives and daughters.
Seoulman. as you said you said your opinions and experiences. That's fine and we all need to listen your opinion and experiences, but the problem is your saying looked like it is true because you said from statistics or accroding to something. You MUST distinguish your opinion and the facts.Hey, let's all just live and let live. We're all different. Different countries, different races, different religions. And definitely different tastes in women. What might seemed wierd or excessive to someone from one country could be seen very differently by someone from another country. We all just need to live with that and respect each others' different habits.
Personally, as a (Asian) foreigner living in Korea, of course there are things I find different with then Koreans. I might not agree with the ways but I respect the difference and keep my mouth shut.
This forum is about sharing our myriad of mongering experiences. Lets focus, shall we!
Someone reported earlier that all the windows had curtains drawn with the lights on in the back. Well from what I saw and I went down all the alleys (there are 6 or so.) and no curtains but only a few like 40 or so with there lights on. This would be out of a few hundred. Hopefully the crackdown ends and the place is stocked with nice new girls.
Would be a good place to check out and isnt as far out of the way as Miari..........
Cheers
RM
Well that was probably me, but I was talking from Miari regarding the curtains.
Could you give a description how to find Cheonho Dong RLD from the station (what exit etc.). Never heard about this RLD, but I am new here. How about quality of girls? have you seen them yet or before?
Can't say that Miari is far outside, it depends what you define 'inside' in Seoul.
Lets say from the Insadong area in the heart of the city you take subway 1 for 2 stations, change at Dongdaemun to line 4 and after 4 stations you are there. about 20 minutes by subway.
happy mongering - wait for your report.
Brain666
Seoulman. as you said you said your opinions and experiences. That's fine and we all need to listen your opinion and experiences, but the problem is your saying looked like it is true because you said from statistics or accroding to something. You MUST distinguish your opinion and the facts.
just becuase you have korean blood, doesnt mean you can speak for all koreans!
my opinon is based on facts! which I have read in history books! seen in movies, read in books and seen with my own eyes!
now im not speaking for every single korean on this rock.
but typically koreans behaviour is what I wrote! and this comes from studies!
now we are talking about a study here..
all nations are guilty here,, im not trying to pick on korea.. just that this happens to be korea and we are discussing why in KOREA you see signs saying NO FOREIGNERS!! or sorry we dont serve your kind here!!
but in USA or the west this CANT HAPPEN!! wont happen!!
even the korean americans wouldnt accept it. and the korean american associations would bring it to congress .. its illegal!! but it happens here..
so please explain to us why it does..
im really curious to hear your opinion on this..
and dude... Ive read what you wrote on BTF forum too. I know you pretty well on there actually hahahaha
Forced Hand
04-18-06, 22:32
I've been following this forum with interest over the last few weeks as I am traveling to Seoul during the second week in May. I am dissapointed at the fact that foreigners are not accepted by everyone in Seoul but if that's the way so be it. So given that I am as white as the driven snow where should I go to in Seoul in order to get laid? All suggestions welcome.
just becuase you have korean blood, doesnt mean you can speak for all koreans!
my opinon is based on facts! which I have read in history books! seen in movies, read in books and seen with my own eyes!
now im not speaking for every single korean on this rock.
but typically koreans behaviour is what I wrote! and this comes from studies!
now we are talking about a study here..
all nations are guilty here,, im not trying to pick on korea.. just that this happens to be korea and we are discussing why in KOREA you see signs saying NO FOREIGNERS!! or sorry we dont serve your kind here!!
but in USA or the west this CANT HAPPEN!! wont happen!!
even the korean americans wouldnt accept it. and the korean american associations would bring it to congress .. its illegal!! but it happens here..
so please explain to us why it does..
im really curious to hear your opinion on this..
and dude... Ive read what you wrote on BTF forum too. I know you pretty well on there actually hahahaha
I don't want to violate your opinion but you said again that your opinionis true because you studied korean history, read books, and so on. Then, I can ask you you think you know about korea/korean better than me? understand more deeply and know real thinking when we say something to you?
I am VERY SURE you got wrong ideas, but you said/will say no i am right because I heard/saw by yourself in Korea but you must think why I can not agree with you even 1%. Of course, I don't represent all koreans but I am saying how I feel generally. I saw your posting with some friends of mine and they gave the same response as me. My objection is not from personal differnece and you should accept this.
The sign no foreigners? I already told you because koreans fear getting Aids, but you said it is not true. This is a really honest answer but you don't believe and saying that this real answer is bullshit because there are HIV positives in korea so why they feel like that? My answer is I don't know and I didn't say there is no HIV positivie but we fear. This is just how Koreans feel and perception and I also know this is not right. But, I can not change how they feel.
Will you say this is personal? I go abroad a lot of times and shag the girls who were shagged by a lot of foreigners so I don't feel anything seeing korean hookers accept foreigners. Thus, I love shagging girls who have GFE experience with the girls and this is THE PERSONAL thing not the statement I made to correct errors.
More personally, I don't want to dispute on these bullshits on this forum, but to read other members field reports or answer questions.
My original intention was to give you the correct understanding but you do not accept my true answer so my hands are tied now and i don't want to waste my energy any more. If you don't believe the truth then it is ok but your thinking/opinions on korea never be accepted by koreans.
I've been following this forum with interest over the last few weeks as I am traveling to Seoul during the second week in May. I am dissapointed at the fact that foreigners are not accepted by everyone in Seoul but if that's the way so be it. So given that I am as white as the driven snow where should I go to in Seoul in order to get laid? All suggestions welcome.
Hmmm, did you really read in this forum?
Foreigners might not be accepted in all places, but that does not mean they are not accepted at all!
Why don't you carefully read my reports and go exactly to the places where I was accepted. Never had a problem to be rejected yet.
RLD's:
1) you can go to yongsan. In the B-rows you will be widely accepted.
2) you can go to Miari. If you are not afraid of an ghost town atmosphere you will find plenty of mamasan's who like to introduce you her girls.
My experience was rather positive there.
Anmas: Anma Process is something you should try. Not cheap but rather good.
Read my reports and go there and you will not be rejected.
regards
Brain666
It's their country, their national assets/pussies and they make the rules anyway they chooses. Whatever happened to the saying "when in ROME do what the ROMAN do"??
You said that I am a guest in this country. Well funny thing I used to look at it that way. Well not anymore. I look at it as I have the right to do something just as much as the next guy and if he doesnt like it.......Well the old russian phrase applies here "Toughski Shitski!"
This is my last post on this topic
RM
Well that was probably me, but I was talking from Miari regarding the curtains.
Could you give a description how to find Cheonho Dong RLD from the station (what exit etc.). Never heard about this RLD, but I am new here. How about quality of girls? have you seen them yet or before?
Can't say that Miari is far outside, it depends what you define 'inside' in Seoul.
Lets say from the Insadong area in the heart of the city you take subway 1 for 2 stations, change at Dongdaemun to line 4 and after 4 stations you are there. about 20 minutes by subway.
happy mongering - wait for your report.
Brain666
Okay so get out of the subway at ex 5. You should be right in front of the Emart. Anyway walk down about 100 metres or so and you should pass a Face Shop. Turn left there and walk down to the end of that street. Basically then you want to cross that street and be on the fair side. Then just walk as if you had turned left at the intersection. There are several alleyways. Take one of them and you will hit it. As for girls and all the other stuff..........need more research as it wasnt too busy at that time.
Hope this helps
Seoulman, Cocoroso:
You are here to monger and not to have endless boring discussions. Otherwise I recommend to continue in other political forums.
You both need a link?
Attack: Females are waiting for you, and we are waiting for your reports about your mongering activities.
From now on please return to mongering reports only. I can't read your comments anymore.
regards and happy mongering
Brain666
Okay so get out of the subway at ex 5. You should be right in front of the Emart. Anyway walk down about 100 metres or so and you should pass a Face Shop. Turn left there and walk down to the end of that street. Basically then you want to cross that street and be on the fair side. Then just walk as if you had turned left at the intersection. There are several alleyways. Take one of them and you will hit it. As for girls and all the other stuff..........need more research as it wasnt too busy at that time.
Hope this helps
Thanks for the info!
Please Check the place out, grab some lady and make a report about the whole process!
regards and happy mongering
Brain666
Lionheart8
04-19-06, 19:31
Just came back from exploring 588 and Yongsan. First time at both places. I have to say, hands down, that quality and looks at 588 is definitely a lot better....even better than the A-row girls at Yongsan. While this is subjective to each person's tastes, just go and take a walk and you'll see what I mean.
After comparing the two places, me and a buddy decided to head back to 588 to make our selections. There were more girls at 588 as well, compared to Yongsan. I counted about 40 girls at 588 after walking around the streets. Yongsan had about 20 girls on the A-row while the B-row had only about 10 or so (everyone shld give B-row a miss as the quality of looks is very very different to A-row).
Anyway, I chose a cutie in a purple bikini. She was a 36-24-33 according to my well-trained eyes. While I had been warned that the rooms could be quite run-down, I was pleasantly surprised to see that this girl's room was surprisingly clean and quite well-renovated with tasteful sexy posters. Anyway, after we had both stripped, she proceeded to lick my nipples before going further down. Normally I would insist on a CBJ at the RLD but looking at her pouty lips, I forgot all about it and she proceeded to blow me. Almost came but she stopped in time to slip on the rubber before hopping on. This was where I got a little disappointed. She was pretty loose.
Nevertheless she tried hard but I really couldn't feel much friction. I speak pretty passable Korean so I asked her to blow me again. She thought her FJ wasn't too good and looked worried. But I reassured her that I really liked her BJ (which was true) ut did not want to tell her she was too loose (which was also true). She took off the condom and blew me again. I really wanted to shoot it in her mouth but she had other ideas. She wanted me to fuck her again. So this time I did it to her missionary. I took quite a while....probably because I was a little turned off by her fake moaning (and not forgetting her loose ****). Despite her moaning, she did managed to tell me to hurry up. I proceeded to ram her even harder for trying to hurry me and finally shot my load. She gave me a drink and left me to put on my clothers.
In all, I took abt 30 min. The damage was 70,000 won. My buddy, being the veteran mongerer that he is, had warned me earlier abt the mechanical service. That's true. But I guess it's forgivable when you're fucking someone that looks like one of those racing girls you see at the motor shows. Will probably go back again but not for a while. Anyway, my Japanese girlfriend is coming this weekend for a visit so will be saving my energy (and juices) for her instead.
So Foreigners are banned from Restaurants, bars or other places to dance or have a drink!!! becuase fear of aids!!????
koreans put up signs SAYING NO FORIEGNERS! outside Restaurants or clubs becuase they are afraid to even catch aids?
GROW UP IDIOT!!!
listen you have your opinion and I have mine!
and no I am not trying to state my opinion is only fact! and thats it!! im stating my opinion on 10 years living here!
you wanted to help me! by correcting me?
hahahahah what! like you know more than me.. becuase you are koreans?>????
IM sorry you might be korean! but you surely dont know about this place or its people! you see Ill tell you one thing!
its takes a foreigner to see faults in any country!
your hands are tied!??? NO, your eyes are closed!!
and regards to your statement" I traveled abroad and had no problems going with girls who have been with foreigne"s..
why are there stores selling only to KOREANS!!
why was there a store in philipines owned by koreans, and had a sign outside saying KOREANS ONLY- until the mayors wife walked in who is philipino and said I want these shoes, and the korean workers said, SORRY we only serve koreans!! well she called her husband and those koreans are back in korean and have been blacklisted!!
emmmm why are their massage palours in all parts of the world! even in my home city!! where they only cater to koreans?!! or only japanese!!
EVEN in thailand they have it thailands only for the koreans or japanese!!
but I see koreans and japanese knocking on the doors to ride the white pony in my country!!
if you wish to continue this debate! stop making excuses and start giving answers! problem is. you have no idea! so you are just talking as a patriot!
you see. even in japan!! and korea.. IF bill gates or brad pitt walked into a room salon! they prefectly know he is no threat with Aids.. he will still be TURNED AWAY becuase he is not KOREAN OR JAPANESE!!!
it has nothing to do with AIDS!! stop using fear as an excuse!!
you have your thoughts and I have the facts!!
I don't want to violate your opinion but you said again that your opinionis true because you studied korean history, read books, and so on. Then, I can ask you you think you know about korea/korean better than me? understand more deeply and know real thinking when we say something to you?
I am VERY SURE you got wrong ideas, but you said/will say no i am right because I heard/saw by yourself in Korea but you must think why I can not agree with you even 1%. Of course, I don't represent all koreans but I am saying how I feel generally. I saw your posting with some friends of mine and they gave the same response as me. My objection is not from personal differnece and you should accept this.
The sign no foreigners? I already told you because koreans fear getting Aids, but you said it is not true. This is a really honest answer but you don't believe and saying that this real answer is bullshit because there are HIV positives in korea so why they feel like that? My answer is I don't know and I didn't say there is no HIV positivie but we fear. This is just how Koreans feel and perception and I also know this is not right. But, I can not change how they feel.
Will you say this is personal? I go abroad a lot of times and shag the girls who were shagged by a lot of foreigners so I don't feel anything seeing korean hookers accept foreigners. Thus, I love shagging girls who have GFE experience with the girls and this is THE PERSONAL thing not the statement I made to correct errors.
More personally, I don't want to dispute on these bullshits on this forum, but to read other members field reports or answer questions.
My original intention was to give you the correct understanding but you do not accept my true answer so my hands are tied now and i don't want to waste my energy any more. If you don't believe the truth then it is ok but your thinking/opinions on korea never be accepted by koreans.
Lionheart8
04-19-06, 19:41
Visited Mong Ahn Ma today
It is located near Selloung subway stop. It was probably one of the nicer Ahn Ma that I have been to. expensive Cost 230K. They have the 6th floor and the 10th floors of the building.
As far as service goes, its pretty much the same as the other Ahn Mas.
Shower, jacuzzi, B2B, BBBJ, etc, etc. about 80 minutes.
I must admit though they had more beautiful girls then the others.BKHey,
I'm interested in checking out this Anma. Could you give me some specific directions, like how far is it from Seolleung station and which exit to take?
Thanks
chill bi..
the mongering reports will be here.. which frankly are not that many anyway!
its always the same reports from different people!
asking for directions to that one place which takes foreigners!
or we talking about GINA! or the other regulars!
you dont have to read the posts if you dont want to..
this is nothing more than a friendly debate! plenty of room on this forum to have a debate..
just scrol past to the mongering posts...
Seoulman, Cocoroso:
You are here to monger and not to have endless boring discussions. Otherwise I recommend to continue in other political forums.
You both need a link?
Attack: Females are waiting for you, and we are waiting for your reports about your mongering activities.
From now on please return to mongering reports only. I can't read your comments anymore.
regards and happy mongering
Brain666
Lionheart8
04-19-06, 19:49
So Foreigners are banned from Restaurants, bars or other places to dance or have a drink! Because fear of aids!
Koreans put up signs "SAYING NO FORIEGNERS!" outside Restaurants or clubs becuase they are afraid to even catch aids?
GROW UP IDIOT!
you see. Even in japan! and korea. IF bill gates or brad pitt walked into a room salon! they prefectly know he is no threat with Aids. He will still be TURNED AWAY becuase he is not KOREAN OR JAPANESE! it has nothing to do with AIDS! stop using fear as an excuse!
you have your thoughts and I have the facts!!Hey, why don't you both take this argument elsewhere? Otherwise it'll never end. We are here in this forum to read interesting reports relating our mongering experiences around the world. Let's all just agree to disagree and leave it at that. Enough flaming.
PLEASE give the other forum readers a break.
I look at it as I have the right to do something just as much as the next guy and if he doesnt like it....
RM
make sure you let the local mafia guys knows about your "briused" ego intention, they will be glad to help you out in anyway they can so you can understand their point of view. good luck and have your will paper in order in case you have an accident along the way....cheers
This site is not a discussion group for Korean culture, buddhism or anything else related on this line. I am sorry I perpetuated this somewhat. I really dont see it accomplishes? Can we stop this debate.........it is getting sooooooo boring!
Thanks Brain 666 for adding some valuable reports recently........
Hey, why don't you both take this argument elsewhere? Otherwise it'll never end. We are here in this forum to read interesting reports relating our mongering experiences around the world. Let's all just agree to disagree and leave it at that. Enough flaming.
PLEASE give the other forum readers a break.
yeah ok.. lets all wait for another report from GINAS house! or that barbeshop in kangnam! like we havent heard about fthat for the last 4 years!!
you are so excited to get on with the mongering reports!!
WHERE ARE THEY???
yeah exactly!!!
im done with this debate ok guys...
Lionheart8
04-21-06, 09:54
yeah ok.. lets all wait for another report from GINAS house! or that barbeshop in kangnam! like we havent heard about fthat for the last 4 years!!
you are so excited to get on with the mongering reports!!
WHERE ARE THEY???.
Hey, relax man! Sure, I would like to keep the reports coming. Still new to the Seoul mongering scene but looking to get more action when my free-fuck-friends (FFFs) are not available. At least I did write one earlier for my maiden trip to 588 (in fact, that was my first paid fuck in Seoul!).
Besides, most of my reports so far are in the HK and Macau sections, which I visit on a regular basis whenever I have to travel for business.
yeah ok.. lets all wait for another report from GINAS house! or that barbeshop in kangnam! like we havent heard about fthat for the last 4 years!!
you are so excited to get on with the mongering reports!!
WHERE ARE THEY???
yeah exactly!!!
im done with this debate ok guys...
Motivation does not belong to your top strengths right?
Frankly writing, I rather prefer 100 reports more just about GINA and this specific barbershop then to continue reading your off topic elaborates. (the same is true for corosco)
Brain666
who takes all the shame to be the utmost racist among us as he likes only pussies no dicks. sorry
Song Seung Heon
04-22-06, 02:31
I am not in Seoul at the moment, I would like to report on my previous expieriences at the RLD's a couple weeks ago. I monger only at the RLD's because its easy place to spot girls and fuck them on the spot. Service in rld'S IS pretty good, if the girl likes you, you can take as long as you want and do pretty much whatever you want, the mechanical service is not true. On my last day before leaving Korea, I went to Yongsan RLD near Shinyongsan exit. Arrived at about 10pm, strolled through the main row. Very few girls working, only about 10% open with a couple girls there. I went to 588 the previous days where there were more girls to select from.Decided to give Yongsan a try for old time sake. I walked through through the other end of the main road many times for the responses. I chose this one girl who caught my eye, she looked the hottest and prettiest. She was sitting there by herself, about an 8 or 9. I went up to the glass booth and as she realized I looked korean, she opened the glass sliding doors without hesitation and let me in.I was let into a third room with plently of glass mirrors. I paid 7u,000 won for short time. I lay there in the bed, she cleans me with towel and hot water, and I lay there naked waiting for her to return. As im lying there, she sucks on my nipples, my entire upper area to arouse me before the oral bbbj. She sucks me very precisely to get me hard, around my ball area. She puts a condom on with her mouth, did not notice at all. She straddled me cowgirl before going missionary. Funny thing was she was give me body to body rub with her for a while before the sex. I doggyed her from behind, the condom almost slipped out, and went back to missionary. I fucked her for a good 30-40 minutes before I gave up, I was tired as hell from too much pumping. Well, she put on my clothes, and walked me out of the booth. very GFE expierience , and one laste note, her pussy was so tight I had trouble ramming it in.
I am not in Seoul at the moment, I would like to report on my previous expieriences at the RLD's a couple weeks ago. I monger only at the RLD's because its easy place to spot girls and fuck them on the spot. Service in rld'S IS pretty good, if the girl likes you, you can take as long as you want and do pretty much whatever you want, the mechanical service is not true. .....
I fucked her for a good 30-40 minutes before I gave up, I was tired as hell from too much pumping. Well, she put on my clothes, and walked me out of the booth. very GFE expierience , and one laste note, her pussy was so tight I had trouble ramming it in.
This sounds to us foreigners and probably many Koreans as well as you are talking about another planet, another Seoul and another RLD. You seem to be the Korean 'Brad Pitt', getting 30-40 minutes without time clock reminder.
Congratulations - as I don't want to assume you are kidding us.
Are there other 'Korean/Asian Bratt Pits' among us where the girls forget their 'policies'?
If I go to RLD's I will continue with Miari probably, as I made my best experience here. Nobody went there after my positive visit last Saturday, so I might need to check myself if this was exception or not.
Anyhow lucky Kimchi Man continue reporting. When will you be back in Korea?
regards
Brain666
"I fucked her for a good 30-40 minutes before I gave up"
Excuse me?! Did you mean seconds?
Remember kids... let's keep it REAL!!
Umm. 30-40mins of "ramming" at RLD? I'm surprised that the girl didn't start complaining or getting pissed by the 5th minute of "ramming". The myth of Korean or even Gyopos getting royal service is just that, a myth. It's business for these girls. Faster you come, the more money they can make to be a Dongdaemun shop ajumma.
Big Kahuna
04-23-06, 02:56
Hey,
I'm interested in checking out this Anma. Could you give me some specific directions, like how far is it from Seolleung station and which exit to take?
Thanks
Lionheart,
Directions
Go to the Seolleung subway station on line #2
Take exit #10 walk straight ahead till the third street.
Turn left and take the second left (alley) The an ma will be on your right.
It is not a 24 hour an ma like King and others.
I believe they open @8:00 pm. and close around 9:00 am
BK
The name is written in Korean, if you can read Korean
Lionheart8
04-23-06, 06:25
Lionheart,
Directions
Go to the Seolleung subway station on line #2
Take exit #10 walk straight ahead till the third street.
Turn left and take the second left (alley) The an ma will be on your right.
It is not a 24 hour an ma like King and others.
I believe they open @8:00 pm. and close around 9:00 am
BK
Thanks BK. Will certainly check it out when I can and send a detailed report.
I hope my gf gives me some time off.
Lionheart8
04-23-06, 06:32
I am not in Seoul at the moment, I would like to report on my previous expieriences at the RLD's a couple weeks ago. I monger only at the RLD's because its easy place to spot girls and fuck them on the spot. Service in rld'S IS pretty good, if the girl likes you, you can take as long as you want and do pretty much whatever you want, the mechanical service is not true. On my last day before leaving Korea, I went to Yongsan RLD near Shinyongsan exit. Arrived at about 10pm, strolled through the main row. Very few girls working, only about 10% open with a couple girls there. I went to 588 the previous days where there were more girls to select from.Decided to give Yongsan a try for old time sake. I walked through through the other end of the main road many times for the responses. I chose this one girl who caught my eye, she looked the hottest and prettiest. She was sitting there by herself, about an 8 or 9. I went up to the glass booth and as she realized I looked korean, she opened the glass sliding doors without hesitation and let me in.I was let into a third room with plently of glass mirrors. I paid 7u,000 won for short time. I lay there in the bed, she cleans me with towel and hot water, and I lay there naked waiting for her to return. As im lying there, she sucks on my nipples, my entire upper area to arouse me before the oral bbbj. She sucks me very precisely to get me hard, around my ball area. She puts a condom on with her mouth, did not notice at all. She straddled me cowgirl before going missionary. Funny thing was she was give me body to body rub with her for a while before the sex. I doggyed her from behind, the condom almost slipped out, and went back to missionary. I fucked her for a good 30-40 minutes before I gave up, I was tired as hell from too much pumping. Well, she put on my clothes, and walked me out of the booth. very GFE expierience , and one laste note, her pussy was so tight I had trouble ramming it in.
Kimchi Man,
That sounds like the mechanical service I got at 588! For GFE experience, I would go to the Macau saunas anytime. Anyway, I'm glad you had a good time....
Someone once wrote that if you go back to the same girl at the RLD, and even bring a small gift, then maybe (and that's a big MAYBE) one might get the GF experience. I think the best outcome would be to get the number of your favourite Anma girl and she agrees to spend some quality time with you away from the Anma.
Hi Brain66,
I went to Miari one time but was not lucky as you were. As said, the girls are all dressed up and I did not have the chance to get the pearl as you described. Probably I accepted immediately once proposed by the mamasan. What happens if you turn down the proposal? The mamasan will propose you other girls or you have to stroll again in order to get accosted by other mamasans?
By the way I had the reverse experiences you had with the AN MAs New York and Teheran. In Teheran I got a beautiful GFE who accepted DFK and DATY. On the contrary at the AN MA NY the services were quite mechanical.
To conclude places like you were, were all worth the try. We have to let for the AN MAs the chance play its part and for the RLDs to rely on our own intuition and feelings.
Rikop
This sounds to us foreigners and probably many Koreans as well as you are talking about another planet, another Seoul and another RLD. You seem to be the Korean 'Brad Pitt', getting 30-40 minutes without time clock reminder.
Congratulations - as I don't want to assume you are kidding us.
Are there other 'Korean/Asian Bratt Pits' among us where the girls forget their 'policies'?
If I go to RLD's I will continue with Miari probably, as I made my best experience here. Nobody went there after my positive visit last Saturday, so I might need to check myself if this was exception or not.
Anyhow lucky Kimchi Man continue reporting. When will you be back in Korea?
regards
Brain666
Went to Cheongnyangni the other night, some hot girls, but not for us foreigners. I then decided to stop by good old Yongsan: disappointing. B-row ladies were not that attractive, not worth 70,000 to me at least, so I just left. What to do, what to do.
Hi Brain66,
I went to Miari one time but was not lucky as you were. As said, the girls are all dressed up and I did not have the chance to get the pearl as you described. Probably I accepted immediately once proposed by the mamasan. What happens if you turn down the proposal? The mamasan will propose you other girls or you have to stroll again in order to get accosted by other mamasans?
By the way I had the reverse experiences you had with the AN MAs New York and Teheran. In Teheran I got a beautiful GFE who accepted DFK and DATY. On the contrary at the AN MA NY the services were quite mechanical.
To conclude places like you were, were all worth the try. We have to let for the AN MAs the chance play its part and for the RLDs to rely on our own intuition and feelings.
Rikop
Hey, good to see a new member here who does some action! Please continue doing so. Its for all of us beneficial.
Seems to be that it is always a kind of lottery with this girls.
I can imagine that Teheran has also very nice girls, as many described. My experience there was not really bas, but is clearly topped by NY. But I might have been the lucky ones here.
So yesterday Sunday, I went to Miari again, in order to verify my experience with another girls house.
I went early so about 4 p.m. and as it was raining all the morning long or in general Sundays the place was almost closed. They have been more ore less waking up.
The advantage was that I could see the place better under daytime. In fact it does not look much better, just less scary. There were a few mamasans around. Also some (better a few) customers came along from time to time.
All mamasans approached me and liked to show me the girls. However girl quality was rather not really impressive. If you refuse they are a little angry. I usually answer ‘ come back later’ after checking the girls. They really don’t like it so much if their girls are not immediately taken. But supply vs. demand.
I made about 2 big rounds all around and almost wanted to give up. However also had the necessary pressure between my legs. Finally I was shown a place which seemed to have just opened. 1 Girl sitting and 2 on the way with preparing their makeup.
Mamasan proposed one – but to ‘fat’ (actually not really fat – but to wide for my taste) - even if she smiled nicely- I pointed to one sitting in front of the mirror. Ok she was activated and I was guided to the upper floor. Mamasan said – oh big guy – big bed. So she gave me the last room at floor 2, I think its also the living/ overnight stay place for the girls. The smell of a running Washing machine was in my nose. It took about 5 minutes until the girl arrived.
I was surely the first customer of the day. She must have just showered – she was fresh at all.
This time there was no pre process with Fruits and tea. It was just the normal service more typical to an RLD.
But she was accommodating – not as much as the girl of my first MIARI visit- but somehow my second best experience. She was so fresh that I made DATY and DFK, both was possible. Not really extended but she allowed and somehow enjoyed the DATY. She kissed my nipples and made a rather good BBBJ playing a lot around with her tongue around the top of my dick, mentioning big Size. No hand support.
I was asked condom ok and almost would have gone bareback (I guess I could if I wanted), but said condom ok. Hard – she was so fresh.
Pussy had a good feel, I did about 4 positions enjoyed the fucking – a really fresh fresh fresh skin with a nice shaped pussy – no hesitation to take the full length.
I came rather in time of the 15min (pure action time not counting undressing and waiting). So overall not my most RLD GFE but still ok. The breast - no fake- perfectly shaped, better as the girl of my first visit. So an 8 in total for the looks.
Freshness itself and smell was 10. Performance about 8 by RLD standards. Missing the previous ‘before and after’ service.
Overall I can’t recommend this afternoon time, but I might have been a bit lucky again.
Regards
Brain666
On the way buying some computer accessoirs I went to Yongsan, and as a duty i walked through the RLD for checking. Time Saturday 18-18:30h.
Almost empty. The A-Row had max. 5 girls. All not better then 7. The B-Rows were evem worse. About 10 girls. up to 6 , one 7.
I saw that already much better. I was asked by 1 with a 50kW quote.
Another said something double (I guess she wanted to offer double time).
No real turn ons.
So anyhow I was buying computer staffs, just I left.
regards
Brain666
Lionheart8
04-24-06, 18:03
After my girlfriend went back to Japan, I decided to drop by New York Anma (뉴욕안마) this evening thinking I'd give the place a shot (pun intended). Before I could step in, I saw a few girls arriving. They were pretty tall and dressed normally. I guessed they must be working there. One was a 7 but the other two were at best a 5. Although I was feeling horny but seeing the girls made me think twice. I wasn't quite taken with them so I left.
Would Kangnam side be better, I wonder?
Nite_Runner
04-24-06, 19:55
Question for the local crowd - I noticed that there are a couple of massage signs posted in the vicinity of the Hamilton Hotel(Itaewon area) - does anyone know if these are legit or do they offer extras?
n_r
I've heard mixed reports about most of them but the Sports Massage in the Hamilton itself is FS. Prices range from 140K to 200K, although the service is always the same.
Korvet
Question for the local crowd - I noticed that there are a couple of massage signs posted in the vicinity of the Hamilton Hotel(Itaewon area) - does anyone know if these are legit or do they offer extras?
n_r
Ok, so I decided to break my latest vacation from Itaewon a few days ago. It was an interesting double-header.
I hit the Hill around 1: 30 AM. Customers were pretty light and the girls were pretty plentiful.
Round 1 took place at Madrid. Now. I haven't hit there in a while. Reports of LB activity and workers had pretty much kept me away. Still. I used to have a thing with the old owner, who was 110% female, so I figured, "What the Hell. "
I hooked up with a chick named B. B. Looks were very good, despite a suspiciously low voice.
We each had one drink - a beer fro me and a 10K drink for her then it was on to negotiating. Her opening offer was 150K for CFS and CBJ. I offered 100K. Got a sour look. And agreement. Then to test the waters, asked about anal. She got pretty quiet, mubling about how much that hurts, how she hadn't done it in a year, and how expensive it was. After a bit she agreed for 200K. That's twice normal FS but I'll pop for that for a backdoor romp.
She started with an ok but short (1 minute) BBBJ before rolling over for covered missionary. All in all ok, but nothing spectacular. After 4-5 minutes of that she whispered "anal? " From there we went to about 15 minutes of vigorous action, starting with her standing, bent over at the waist and finishing with a few minutes doggy and with her pressed flat, face down.
Finish was good, although I found myself thinking from time to time. "Did she used to be a guy? " The plumbing seemed allright including the clit, which is hard for doctors to do but the voice and musculature didn't seem quite right. Still and all, a good time. If she's committed enough to clip it off, take hormones until she has C cup tits, and changes her gender on her ID, who am I to judge. Especially if the action is good.
Overall, an 8 on the 10 point scale - 6 for the basics with a point added for the anal and the (possible) novelty.
Round two took place across the alley at (I think) the Moonlight. It's the last club in the first string on your right as you walk up the hill. After recovering from B. B. I tried out Chi Yong at Moonlight. She used to be a day time girl but started working Midnight top 8AM a few months ago. I tried her a few times before so gave her a repeat.
She's a little pricey - 140K, including one drink, but worthwhile. She's a little heavy and her face is avarage but she's got the only natural 36DD rack I've encountered in Korea (she's quite proud of them and knows how to use them).
The 140K bought an hour and change in her apartment. Her place is about a 30 second walk and is in the building right before the short time hotel across from Madrid. She offered multiple pops, although after Madrid I was good with one and some fooling around after the main event. She was good for a very good BBBJ, lasting about 5 minutes, some quasi titty-fucking (she lays on top, working your joint between her breasts) for 4-5 minutes, and 10-15 minutes of CFS in all the standard positions.
She's a pretty cool chick and a good repeat lay. If you want to connect with her, talk about computer gaming or music. She's semi-addicted to online games and she's a singer in a band when she isn't working the club.
Over all a 7 our of 10 (5 base, +1 for attitude, and always +1 for the 36DDs).
Have fun and be safe,
Korvet
Interesting report.
I often go to Itaewon for drinking and sometimes I walk up to the hill to see what is going on, but I have never taken any ladies from Itaewon.
The prices are quite high and I heard from other americans who I met in Itaewon bars that the FLs go for about 20K for L/T so I think it would be better to take FLs from bars.
Coco-
Thanks. I'm not familiar with the abbreviation" FL." What's that?
Prices in Itaewon vary but the norm on the Hill is 80-100K for FS and 40-60K for BJ. There are some exceptions, like Miya at Fantasy who will do FS for 60K. I usually stay in those ranges but will go higher for something special like anal or Chi Yong's great attitude and 36DDs. I've paid between 0 and 300K at different times - sometimes for the same girl.
Korvet
Interesting report.
I often go to Itaewon for drinking and sometimes I walk up to the hill to see what is going on, but I have never taken any ladies from Itaewon.
The prices are quite high and I heard from other americans who I met in Itaewon bars that the FLs go for about 20K for L/T so I think it would be better to take FLs from bars.
Big Kahuna
04-26-06, 14:09
Went by Dragon Aa Ma today.
It was the worst An Ma I have been to in quite a while.
The girl was about a 3 for looks the most chubbist korean girl I have been
with and her service was about a 2.
There was a jacuzzi but she did not even do the B2B in the jacuzzi or on the
shower table.
My Korean is passable so I told the ajuma on the way out that it was the
worst service I ever had and she told me she was sorry and gave me a card
with a comp for the next visit.
She did do BBBJ and CFS but very mechanical.
Went by Star An Ma and seen that they have changed their name to Venus.
Happy Hunting
BK
Coco-
Thanks. I'm not familiar with the abbreviation" FL." What's that?
Prices in Itaewon vary but the norm on the Hill is 80-100K for FS and 40-60K for BJ. There are some exceptions, like Miya at Fantasy who will do FS for 60K. I usually stay in those ranges but will go higher for something special like anal or Chi Yong's great attitude and 36DDs. I've paid between 0 and 300K at different times - sometimes for the same girl.
Korvet
FL stands for freelancer.
Yes, I think the hill in Itaewon is unique place in korea because there is no place for blowjob only.
I as Korean used to go to RLD a lot when I was young(still young. in my middle 30's :) ) and nowadays I only rarely go to motel to take girls or anmas only.
I sometimes drive my car to RLD to check how the girls look like(safari) only.
As far as I know, in Itaewon there are a lot of freebies as well so you can hook up freebies for sex partners only. (not confirmed by myself but heard stratight from the horse' mouth).
I have been always wondering why the members of this forum do not get together and share information or go for the fuck session.
I would like to suggest that you go to famous bars in Itaewon and look for ladies who are freelancers or just normal girls. They are happy to meet western people. From my observation, about 30% of ladies are gorgeous and 40% ladies are normal and the rest 30% ladies are less than 6 on my scale of 1 to 10.
I also the kind of person who are crazy at girl-friend-experience and sometimes spend more money than the average going rate but 300K is way to much to get it. But, I think you did a good deal because you also got backdoor action. LOL;;;;
Someday, I would like to meet the forum members of this site like I do with other Internet sites members. :)
P.S : what 36DD stands for?
Lionheart8
04-26-06, 16:55
As far as I know, in Itaewon there are a lot of freebies as well so you can hook up freebies for sex partners only. (not confirmed by myself but heard stratight from the horse' mouth).
I have been always wondering why the members of this forum do not get together and share information or go for the fuck session.
I would like to suggest that you go to famous bars in Itaewon and look for ladies who are freelancers or just normal girls. They are happy to meet western people. From my observation, about 30% of ladies are gorgeous and 40% ladies are normal and the rest 30% ladies are less than 6 on my scale of 1 to 10.
Freebies are definitely out there!! Let me relate my own experience. I usually meet freebies from Korean Friendfinder.....wrote a report last month on this subject. But the experience I am relating this time was a Uzbekistan student (or at least that's what she told me) I met at JJ's (at Hyatt).
This happened in Dec last year. Anyway, I was there with a couple of buddies just drinking and chilling out....and eye-balling some of the gorgeous Korean chicks on the dance floor. When I went to top up our drinks at the bar counter, I accidentally bumped into this babe. She was quite tall (I think maybe even slightly taller than me since she was in heels). My first impression was that she reminded me of Jessica Biel (you know, the actress from Seventh Heaven and she was most recently in the movie Stealth). We ended up chatting while waiting for our drinks. She was there with her sister. In fact, they chill out quite regularly at JJ's on Ladies Nite (and also at Limelight (?) which I believe is next to Hamilton Hotel). I got her number and we agreed to meet up soon for dinner.
I called her the next day and agreed on a Saturday date. I wasn't expecting anything. It was a simple dinner at HRC, some dancing, a couple of vodkas (I expected that) and some flirting. When I sent her home, I decided to try my luck and leaned in for a kiss. She reciprocated. I thought that was a good start but did not want to spoil it by going in for the kill. Besides, she stayed with her sister which meant going to her place was out of the question. We agreed to meet up again.
We did the same routine...dinner, dance, drinks....and more drinks. We were both a little tipsy and I suggested Hey why not come to my place for some wine. She agreed and once back, the wine was forgotten and the clothes were off before we got to the bedroom.
It was a good shag...but she had really saggy tits. Her long legs made up for it. Anyway, it was a freebie so I didn't complain. I was only afraid that in the morning, she would force me to marry her or else. We hung out a few more times at my place and the occasional motel in Kangnam but since I'm more interested in Korean babes, eventually it was time to move on.
I guess it's all hit-and-miss at the bars....sometimes you're just lucky to be at the right place at the right time. Anyway, I would certainly recommend JJ's and Limelight's (which I hear has many Russian babes). Be prepared to pay for her drinks though.......hmmm....I guess if you think about it, perhaps it wasn't really a freebie afterall.
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I guess it's all hit-and-miss at the bars....sometimes you're just lucky to be at the right place at the right time. Anyway, I would certainly recommend JJ's and Limelight's (which I hear has many Russian babes). Be prepared to pay for her drinks though.......hmmm....I guess if you think about it, perhaps it wasn't really a freebie afterall.
The question is really how you count a freebee’s maintenance cost.
With your dinners and a couple of drinks you might have not paid for the sex itself, but until you got there much more then just straight paid sex. It’s a matter of how you count. On the other hand I agree that the hunting also makes fun, especially if it is successful at the end.
At this place I want to send out a warning.
According to some friends experience you need to be on alert of some of the girls @ Hyatt and Hilton Nightclubs.
There are a lot of ladies around who want to hook up with the hotel guests. Sex not excluded, but more likely not necessarily included, many of them are connected to some bar where they get provision on drinks off. And there are a lot of bars in Itaewon and probably elsewhere who seem to have some contract.
According to my friends it looks like a normal connection. You get a phone number and she is willing to show the hotel guest around in Seoul. In the same night or next day. Of course somehow to end in 'her ' favourite provision bar.
But there are signs: Check the menu cards of the places you are guided. If you see a beer and others just normal priced, lets say 5.000w, then check preferred for wine and cognac. If the cognac and wine price is unbalanced to the other drinks and does not fit to the ‘scale’ of the bar, lets say 20.000/ small glass wine and 40.000/ glass cognac while the beer is 5000 then you should be alerted. She will for sure order cognac or whine and guess what, she wants to drink much. A bottle of whine can be 600.000 kW.
So your bill could be quickly at 200- 500 k without to be sure to get the score.
This is just to be alerted that these type of ladies are among those night club guests. It does not mean that there are not real freebees among, and other freebees use the chance to combine their hobby (fucking foreign guys) with some additional income.
It’s up to you to decide.
I for myself are rather careful with freebees. But that is because I am married and as I am a ‘nice guy’ where girls easily feel comfortable and like the sex with (I like to please them and let them come even if its on cost of my own pleasure – which most of them are not used to that they get so much attention) there is quickly the chance that they want a more deeper relation then just great fucks. And then it gets risky if you still like your wife and just want to play around as you cant sop hunting new pussies. Freebees not excluded, definitely included from time to time – who can strop scoring- but I rather prefer the safer way of straight pay without the frills around for safety. But everyone of us has its own preferences band sometimes we are just dick controlled.
Regards
Brain666
Coco, Lion, Brave, et. al,
I agree. There's a lot of free stuff out there. I fall in on Braniac's side though. I've had more than my share of free Korean action. Speaking Korean and being reasonably well behaved make it like shooting fish in a barrel.
The problem is that everyone of the girls I've been with - going back over 20 years - equate sex with a long term commitment while for me sex is recreational. This has led to some real problems and now that I'm in a Long Term Relationship (although still mongering), I don't have the patience or energy to deal with that drama.
P4P costs more (sometimes) but the no strings part is more important for me than the Won it costs.
So I did some Recon in Cheonho Dong last Sunday. Man is the RLD there ever huge! The problem is that most of the places dont have any girls in them. Before the crackdown this place must have been awesome! Anyway from what I saw it is the mommasans in the front touting customers and taking them in the back to the girls. I kinda looked dead but I saw guys walking in and out so there is some biz going on there. Im gonna head back there Saturday and see if biz picks up then.
Someone reported earlier that all the windows had curtains drawn with the lights on in the back. Well from what I saw and I went down all the alleys (there are 6 or so.) and no curtains but only a few like 40 or so with there lights on. This would be out of a few hundred. Hopefully the crackdown ends and the place is stocked with nice new girls.
Would be a good place to check out and isnt as far out of the way as Miari..........
Cheers
RM
As nobody was giving a try to Cheonho-dong RLD yet following Rugby Man first check and I am still curious about all of the scenery I don’t know yet, yesterday Friday I wanted to see it with my own eyes. Not necessarily for action, but if it would have been ok, why not.
Went there around 10:45 – 11:00 pm which I would have considered could be the prime time. Followed Rugby Man’s description and could find it.
Exit 5 of Cheonho station second left (quite busy there at this time) until you reach a crossing . Cross the street and turn left. The RLD starts on the right after some meters but not in the first row. Its behind the first row of the street.
But useless to follow this description as it is not worth it. It’s been the worst RLD scenery I have seen so far. And it’s probably not the crackdown only which brings the RLD down. They crack down themselves due to their offering and behave.
You walk through a rather huge area with houses having big windows in the first floor. Its like you opened your hose to give everybody a look to your living room. Only about 10 % of the area is serviced, totally about 20-30 places (did not count).
But what is inside there. There is absolutely nothing more then 7 in the scale and 7 is rather an exception. Inside are beside the girls mamasans and/ or the pimps/ boyfriends almost all very busy to watch TV (who likes to see the girls Pimps sitting on the sofa when you intend to approach a RLD girl?). It looks like families in verandas watching TV programs rather then an RLD ready to welcome customers. They hardly pay attention to you and not only because I am foreigner. They also don’t do it for the very few Koreans passing by as I could see.
Only one girl was actively approaching me (but no intention to pay money for a 4-5 on scale) 2 others smiled a little.
The result of this scenery: You will immediately turn down all potential desires and I can’t believe that any Korean would feel comfortable there as they have full access to 588. Not worth to spend any cent here neither for Foreigners nor for Koreans. No Idea what the cost would be. For me not worth any WON.
So I returned with the last subway leaving this place around 23:45h.
Resume: Forget about this place.
Did anybody else go there so far?
Regards
Brain666
Song Seung Heon
04-29-06, 11:23
IMHO, 588 has the prettiest girls. I only go here from now on. Its behind Lotte Department store, follow the pink lights, there you'll be ina maze of glasshouses of hot young girls touting you begging you to fuck them. I stroll around, I feel like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt, these girls get very vocal wanting you to come into their stores. I once had a girl come out of the glasshouse in her bathing attire to take me in. She wanted me to fuck her friends too. To my understanding, session with three girls four girls is available if you negotiate. Arrived at around mid 10 pm, I strolled around many times. I find that the hardest part is making the selection, but once you get into their bedrooms, its bliss. I go the prime A row where the cars go out, I chose a girl who was waving at me she had somehwat a sexy look which I liked. She was about a 8, her tits were kinda small, but her face made up for it, overall, nice k girl body with smooth light skin. I fucked a kgirl that looked exactly like Paris Hilton, you guys should check her out, nice brown hair with a tattoo near the back of her ass. She is the second girl I barebacked with. She waves me in, we go upstairs. She leads me to aroom. I pay 70k for 20 minutes. I lay there naked in the bed. The room is nice, with plenty of room. She returns, undresses, there she is teasing me with her tongue on my nipples. She gives me bbbj for a good minture or so. She rides me on top, and slipps the condom out before going missionary. I said lets do without condom, she was okay. I stick her bareback, I play with her clit many times,
good old fashioned fucking. 70k for around 20-30 minutes to shagg any k girl pretty good bargain, I could of cummed, but there was nothing left in the sack.
Big Kahuna
04-30-06, 03:19
As nobody was giving a try to Cheonho-dong RLD yet following Rugby Man first check and I am still curious about all of the scenery I don’t know yet, yesterday Friday I wanted to see it with my own eyes. Not necessarily for action, but if it would have been ok, why not.
Went there around 10:45 – 11:00 pm which I would have considered could be the prime time. Followed Rugby Man’s description and could find it.
Exit 5 of Cheonho station second left (quite busy there at this time) until you reach a crossing . Cross the street and turn left. The RLD starts on the right after some meters but not in the first row. Its behind the first row of the street.
But useless to follow this description as it is not worth it. It’s been the worst RLD scenery I have seen so far. And it’s probably not the crackdown only which brings the RLD down. They crack down themselves due to their offering and behave.
You walk through a rather huge area with houses having big windows in the first floor. Its like you opened your hose to give everybody a look to your living room. Only about 10 % of the area is serviced, totally about 20-30 places (did not count).
But what is inside there. There is absolutely nothing more then 7 in the scale and 7 is rather an exception. Inside are beside the girls mamasans and/ or the pimps/ boyfriends almost all very busy to watch TV (who likes to see the girls Pimps sitting on the sofa when you intend to approach a RLD girl?). It looks like families in verandas watching TV programs rather then an RLD ready to welcome customers. They hardly pay attention to you and not only because I am foreigner. They also don’t do it for the very few Koreans passing by as I could see.
Only one girl was actively approaching me (but no intention to pay money for a 4-5 on scale) 2 others smiled a little.
The result of this scenery: You will immediately turn down all potential desires and I can’t believe that any Korean would feel comfortable there as they have full access to 588. Not worth to spend any cent here neither for Foreigners nor for Koreans. No Idea what the cost would be. For me not worth any WON.
So I returned with the last subway leaving this place around 23:45h.
Resume: Forget about this place.
Did anybody else go there so far?
Regards
Brain666
Brain666,
After reading your quote, decide to check it out myself last night
You are 100% correct, It is the worst RLD in Seoul.
The RLD off of the Sinheung line (line 8) is a close second IMHO.
Stopped by Janhanpyeong Area, didnt like it at all with all the adashis trying to pimp you to their An Mas. plus the area had alot of poor, dirty looking individuals.
Finally ended up south of the river about 1:00 a.m. and went to Komodo since one of my favs is there and she did not disappoint. Only paid 180K,
BBBJ 2X, she offered no condom but I declined, CFS 2X, tossed salad. The only draw back is no jaccuzzi and no table. They have a pole, like a stripper pole, which I gladly had her grab on to and bend over for doggie.
BK
Skihuff213
04-30-06, 09:59
Hi guys,
I just want to say hi and introduce myself to this board, I will be working in Seoul for about a month or two and after read many report posted by you guys I really learned a lot and thank you all! especially Brain666 and BK for your in depth report! I do have one question and that is there arenot many reports about in call service in seoul, i know that going out is much more fun but i don't think i will have that time during my first week here so I would like to ask for anyone who knows a good in call service? Please help and thank you! I will share my part of experience after I am free in a week! Have a good holiday!
Get a copy of the Korean Times or Herald and look at the pages near the back for massage services, hit or miss with these in terms of the girls and service.
Hi guys,
I just want to say hi and introduce myself to this board, I will be working in Seoul for about a month or two and after read many report posted by you guys I really learned a lot and thank you all! especially Brain666 and BK for your in depth report! I do have one question and that is there arenot many reports about in call service in seoul, i know that going out is much more fun but i don't think i will have that time during my first week here so I would like to ask for anyone who knows a good in call service? Please help and thank you! I will share my part of experience after I am free in a week! Have a good holiday!
hi guys,
i just want to say hi and introduce myself to this board, i will be working in seoul for about a month or two and after read many report posted by you guys i really learned a lot and thank you all! especially brain666 and bk for your in depth report! i do have one question and that is there arenot many reports about in call service in seoul, i know that going out is much more fun but i don't think i will have that time during my first week here so i would like to ask for anyone who knows a good in call service? please help and thank you! i will share my part of experience after i am free in a week! have a good holiday!
skihuff123, first welcome to the board as an active member.
i did not check any outcall service yet, but it will be on my schedule for sure. however i don't know when yet.
i propose you try it out for us. in your hotel or residence you might get an english speaking newspaper anyway.
i have 'the korean herald' (english) from saturday april 29 in front of me. usually there are 1-4 massage adds there. april 29 has 3 of them.
1)´new: sweet massage. feel the best service. house call service.
price: 100.000 won.
2) massage: feeling a bit run down? pamper your spirits up.
- full service massage
- therapeutic massage
24 h available, credit card ok. outcall service
3) sports massage
- aroma with full body massage
- lovely & sweet massage
housecall service, (24h full time service)
price: w 90.000
there is others quoting 170.000 with 'schedule flexible' at other days.
i can send you the phone numbers of the above adds via pm if you want (don't know if i can publish them here)
knowing seoul price levels i guess the 90-100.000 will be without 'extras of completion' you desire. you might end up with 150-200.000 won (guess more in direction of 200kw).
as we have not much experience yet at this board and i follow run man it can be anything within hit and miss, why don't you give it a try and report here.
we would be glad if we can filter the right provider/ girl here.
carefully notice and remember the service add text, phone number and girls name. details not for public could be shared by pm.
please report everything from the concatct, negotiation etc.
looking forward for your experience.
regards
brain666
Skihuff213
05-01-06, 05:43
Hi Brain and Runman,
Thank you for your advice and Sine you guys contribute so much I might as well be the first (well maybe not the first) to tell you about my two house calls over the weekend. I was going to buy a copy pf Korean Herald but couldn’t find it at the 24 hour mart near where I live, so I got the Herald Tribune and I found some ads not many about house call service so I tried all the numbers and they all speak pretty good English and like you said the price is about 170 to 200w for full service and 100w just for massage. So I tried one(010-8675-8***) on Friday night (minutes after I posted my first message) and she said she was send a girl who is about 25 years old but when she showed up clearly she is more than 30 years old but since she is already here I felt sorry if I sent her away so I go ahead let her in. First I asked if she needed a shower but she said she took one already, anyway she took off her cloth but left her bra and underwear, so she gave me a good full body massage then she flip me over and gave me a covered BJ (what’s up with that? I thought it should be BB) she did it for a minute or two then she got on top of me started a pretty mechanical service. So maybe I was unlucky so on Saturday I called up another service(010-22501***) and same thing happened, no need to go into details pretty much the same. So overall I think it is better to go out to Anmas where you get better looking girls and better service maybe? Maybe I am wrong but after my two tries I think from now on I will stay away from new paper ads, please anyone correct me if I am wrong. Well that is my first report! Hope I helped a bit. By the way Brain or anyother respectful members, please tell me which anmas I should visit? There are two massage like Facilties with two rolling poles near where I live, does that mean they provide extra service? What should i do after i go in? I dont speak any Korean at all, I guess it is a big obstacle to us. Anyway thank you for reading this.
Song Seung Heon
05-01-06, 05:56
I go bareback many times at the RLD's. I hear these girls get weekly checkups, to my estimate, its pretty safe. Since they are *****s, they are upmost cautious. I do not mind barebacking hot korean girls though, they seem clean to me. I just won't EVER consider barebacking third world std/AIDs infected ***** in SE Asia.
Hi Brain and Runman,
Thank you for your advice and Sine you guys contribute so much I might as well be the first (well maybe not the first) to tell you about my two house calls over the weekend. I was going to buy a copy pf Korean Herald but couldn’t find it at the 24 hour mart near where I live, so I got the Herald Tribune and I found some ads not many about house call service so I tried all the numbers and they all speak pretty good English and like you said the price is about 170 to 200w for full service and 100w just for massage. So I tried one(010-8675-8***) on Friday night (minutes after I posted my first message) and she said she was send a girl who is about 25 years old but when she showed up clearly she is more than 30 years old but since she is already here I felt sorry if I sent her away so I go ahead let her in. First I asked if she needed a shower but she said she took one already, anyway she took off her cloth but left her bra and underwear, so she gave me a good full body massage then she flip me over and gave me a covered BJ (what’s up with that? I thought it should be BB) she did it for a minute or two then she got on top of me started a pretty mechanical service. So maybe I was unlucky so on Saturday I called up another service(010-22501***) and same thing happened, no need to go into details pretty much the same. So overall I think it is better to go out to Anmas where you get better looking girls and better service maybe? Maybe I am wrong but after my two tries I think from now on I will stay away from new paper ads, please anyone correct me if I am wrong. Well that is my first report! Hope I helped a bit. By the way Brain or anyother respectful members, please tell me which anmas I should visit? There are two massage like Facilties with two rolling poles near where I live, does that mean they provide extra service? What should i do after i go in? I dont speak any Korean at all, I guess it is a big obstacle to us. Anyway thank you for reading this.
Thanks for the report.
This sounds worse then expected. I would have at least expected a full nude action for the outcalls. Maybe it needs detailed q&a and agreements with the phone line before. Did you pay upfront or after the action? But thanks for giving it a try twice.
Regarding the anmas it seems like it depends more from the girl then from the anma itself even if there are some general directions. Some members made opposite experience then I did.
You should tell us in which area of Seoul you stay. In general we ppprobably could recommend the THEHERAN Anma which got many good reports. My own experience was rather good as well, but not outstanding. But others reported about a real great time there. There was also never a real miss so far reported about Teheran. 200kW to be prepared.
Another thing I would like to have more reports from is Janhanpyeong. There are so many Anmas in competition in this area that the prices seem reasonable. I fogot to negotiate and paid 150kW in my one visit but it seems that 120kW is achievable. So to say a budget anma area.
Of course the hit and miss chance might me somehow higher at the miss site in this area. In the past there have been many good reports and some misses, but recently nobody was really cheking and reporting about it.
You must however be somewhow robust against the touts. But try to negiotiate with them.
regards
Brain666
You are safe Kimchi Man!
I go bareback many times at the RLD's. I hear these girls get weekly checkups, to my estimate, its pretty safe. Since they are *****s, they are upmost cautious. I do not mind barebacking hot korean girls though, they seem clean to me. I just won't EVER consider barebacking third world std/AIDs infected ***** in SE Asia.
I think Hu Massage is the best of the bunch, the owner from the old Kim's Massage ran the operation or was connected to it somehow. You pay higher prices for the younger girls. There's just no "absolutes" with any of these places, as always YMMV. Give me a call when you go to the massage like facilities so I can show you what to do after you go in, don't want to give away any secrets here.
Hi Brain and Runman,
There are two massage like Facilties with two rolling poles near where I live, does that mean they provide extra service? What should i do after i go in? I dont speak any Korean at all, I guess it is a big obstacle to us. Anyway thank you for reading this.
Yes KimchiMan, keep on BB-ing. BTW, Hooker Hill would perhaps be a good hunting ground if your are specifically looking for the upmost careful.
I go bareback many times at the RLD's. I hear these girls get weekly checkups, to my estimate, its pretty safe. Since they are *****s, they are upmost cautious. I do not mind barebacking hot korean girls though, they seem clean to me. I just won't EVER consider barebacking third world std/AIDs infected ***** in SE Asia.
I go bareback many times at the RLD's. I hear these girls get weekly checkups, to my estimate, its pretty safe. Since they are *****s, they are upmost cautious. I do not mind barebacking hot korean girls though, they seem clean to me. I just won't EVER consider barebacking third world std/AIDs infected ***** in SE Asia.
Kimchi Man I think you are very safe there going bareback because I myself, the potential only HIV risk who visits the girls as well, is always going covered there. So no risk at all for you. Keep going.
The weekly checkups also prevent you from all the risks your pre Barbacker might have left there 3 Months ago.
regards
Brain666
testet negative recently by his company before coming here.
Brian666,
I admire your adventurous spirit and contributions but are you speaking in codes? What are you saying?
Kimchi Man I think you are very safe there going bareback because I myself, the potential only HIV risk who visits the girls as well, is always going covered there. So no risk at all for you. Keep going.
The weekly checkups also prevent you from all the risks your pre Barbacker might have left there 3 Months ago.
regards
Brain666
testet negative recently by his company before coming here.
Brian666,
I admire your adventurous spirit and contributions but are you speaking in codes? What are you saying?
Decoding:
Kimchi Man I think you are very safe there going bareback because I myself, the potential only HIV risk who visits the girls as well, is always going covered there. So no risk at all for you. Keep going.
Means: Only foreigners can transfer aids (according to his opinion), I am one, so I can do it, but he is save as I use condoms.
Kidding 1
The weekly checkups also prevent you from all the risks your pre Barbacker might have left there 3 Months ago.
Kimchi man can not be sure that a weekly chekup will prevent him from getting aids if a Korean infected her 1 month ago.
So in reality my judgement is: Kimchi Man You might get a higher risk as you are aware of, or you want to admit. Of course I would never compare a Korean service provider with a Kenyan with regards to risk, but the risk is higher then he thinks.
thats all.
Not kidding: Yes I was negatively tested.
regards
Brain666
I give, I am tapping out! Lost my code book.
Song Seung Heon
05-03-06, 12:59
Well, this was back in 03, but I still remember it so fondly. Not very recent, I am not in Korea at the moment, but wish I was. Anyone care to buy me a plane ticket?
A friend and I decided to check out 588 late at night when its alot quieter with less people walking around. It was 2am, with less girls, and hardly any people walking around. There is no place like this. Pink lights and hot girls in skanky clothes strutting around, calling for you to fuck them. Well, chose this exceptional korean cutie, about a 9. I was checking her merchandise before going in. She had a push up bra, the tits looked big. I get a discount, she accepts 50k for me and my friend. My friend fucks her friend. She takes me to the back room, tells me to undress. She brings hot water and wet towel, and cleans my penis. Well, I she returns, and undresses, disappointed with her body. Her tits were small with pointy nipples, and there was lil meat in the ass. Well, her face was made up for it. She gives me bbbj to get me hard. She slips me in the condom and we go missionary. Now it only gets better. As I am fuckng her brains out, I go for the DFK, amazing. Alot of tongue to tongue action as I fuck her for another good 15 minutes. She is very receptive to the DFK. We both make out as if long seperated lovers. I eventually cum, and she comes back with hot water to wipe me clean. Absolute GFE expierience, she gives me a drink and out the back door, that one late late night was very intense, passionate, unforgetable btw.
Asia Traveler 2
05-03-06, 15:33
[QUOTE=Brain666]Guys,
This Saturday I wanted to explore the MIARI RLD as part of my Seoul mongering check out tours.
Reading previous reports (there are almost no reports about Miari recently) telling that foreigners get not laid there, I expected nothing more then a walk through, mainly to inspect the other way of presentation.
For the ones who want to go I repeat where it is (not so easy to find a description in this forum): Take Subway 4, head to Gireum Station (it is the 4th after Dongdaemun Station and the 5th after Dongdaemun Stadium Station) and go out Exit 10.
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Excellent report, Brain... In fact, I really enjoy all of your reports, your writing style, and your excellent attitude.
I will arrive Seoul this Saturday PM, staying until Thursday AM, and will definitely try this area. I only visit Seoul about once per year, and I was a little nervous about finding some of the Anmas mentioned in the different reports. During my last visit, I tried an outcall massage service from a newspaper ad. The girl was about a 5 for body and face. She was also very tired, I think from working full time during the day (or possibly as a student). I paid W200 K, and the overall experience was not very positive.
After Seoul, I will travel to Tokyo, where I spend at least one week at a time, twice each year. Tokyo is more comfortable for me, since I can read and speak a little, I have visited many times, and I have a regular girlfriend (or two.) But I hope that this visit to Seoul will be very rewarding...
The Areno Nite Club at Millenium Hilton is closed since April 1, 2006.
Sigh... Now, where are the ladies going to get free alcohol to get drunk and loose?
Seeko
The Hi Seoul city festival has hit Itaewon. Lots of food vendors on the side of the street and right smack on the road that parallels Hooker Hill is a live singing show with cheerleaders. This is just the funniest sight to see, patrons walking out of VIP club after being blown by Gina and walking right into a family event.
The show was pretty crowed too with mothers and children filling up the seats watching the event while the clubs are still open and seem to be operating as usual. Just amazing that they would decide to have a family event like that right smack in front of all the adult activities that occur in that area. But this is Korea, so anything can happen. I guess it’s suppose to last for a while so the tricks on the hill and surrounding clubs may not be too happy or maybe this event will bring them some much needed new customers.
[QUOTE=Brain666]Guys,
Excellent report, Brain... In fact, I really enjoy all of your reports, your writing style, and your excellent attitude.
Thanks Asian Traveler 2
So guys, I already owe you my next activities for about a week.
Went to Miari again, as nobody else seems to make the field evaluation as I proposed. But Asia Traveler 2 might help me in the future. Thanks in advance.
This time I went at a prime time (? – can some Korean at this board tell me when the prime time is in the RLD’s) Saturday 22:00-23:30.
It was not at all crowded. Some people beside me walking through. Food outlets have been under full operation. So there are customers.
Mamasans as usual: Some ignore me, but a lot approach me.
Now a funny thing: Rather one of the first mamasan asking me showing the girls managed to push me into her box closing the door behind me while I usually like to explore the field. A long negotiation about taking the only girl followed. She did not look bad from the face, but I couldn’t really verify what’s under the dress. It’s a painful situation, with the one girl and mamasan pushing for the good service and I trying to say ‘will come back later’. She smiled much. Finally I lost! Hmmm that’s not my usual way, I am normally able to resist.
Ok so up to the room paying mamasan the 70K. The girl came telling me to undress. Room was small, just a bed, almost nothing to put clothes. I was used to have better places so far in MIARI. I took off, the girl came in naked:
Dammnnn Sh…t: To fat – not really my type. A 5-6 body. Big and ok breasts (8), but it does not help when the rest of the body is not my type. The guys at the board here will laugh at me, how stupid I was. Wasted money came to my mind – can I ever fuck her?
Ok lets go through this I thought, hopefully the performance is good- sometimes performance of uglier ones is better then the one of real stunners I motivated myself.
She carefully ‘washed’ my dick with wet paper towels mentioning the size 3 times. While washing she starred at my dick, starred, starred. When finished she wanted to start kissing but still starred at my dick (guys it’s a quite normal sized western type – maybe a little bit above average, but far far away to be a ‘horse cock’) and suddenly left the room. She obviously was in panic to fuck such a ’big’ cock.
After a minute mamas came to the room – indicating if a Hand job would be good enough – Of course not! I said: No problem and started dressing. I went down, the girl already sitting dressed in her position. I smiled at her – no problem – ok- and mamasan gave me the money back. Lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky, no waste of money.
Having back my freedom I continued walking through the alleys. This time I tried to estimate the girls figure better and of course the eye contact, smile response to the girl which is essential to have get a good service in my opinion. I finally settled to a girl smiling and using her hands in welcome manner saying’: Hello how are you’ in English to me. Ok that’s what I call positive response.
Up to the room and paying mamas an the 70k. Room was again small, a bit bigger then the last, but still smaller as I was used to so far in Miari. Undressed and the girl came naked to clean my dick. This time I managed to get about a 7,5 in rating. Not much to say. The service was good, not as GFE like as in my first two Miari checks, but still a little GFE. I could kiss DATY, DFK, nothing was off limit (did not try anal ore something), I could use all positions.
Finally successful coming. OK.
After dressing and leaving (no energy drink this time) I continued going. Checking girls. It is rather difficult to resist sometimes. Once I saw a rather slim one smiling very nicely to me I decided to go for another round.
Ok, up to the room, paying the usual rate of 70k again, room better, but not outstanding (actually I don’t expect hotel room quality in RLD).
The girl A7 in face and 8 in body (slim, normal sized good fitting breasts) came to me and started the dick cleaning process, very intensive and carefully.
Said, condom ok – I said wait to get the BBBJ blowjob, but she misunderstood and said –please condom- so I confirmed condom ok. (Damn communication problems- next Korean lesson I might request my Teacher to give me the special RLD language).
She then started the BBBJ – uuuhhh-, very good skills – 8,5 in blow jobs, no hand support. Then the condom wrap and the fucking round started. DFK yes, DATY no try as she first used a lubrication for my wrapped dick. Used a lot of positions, enjoyed fucking, but couldn’t come. Time was almost over. Condom was tending to hide in her pussy, so only upper part was covered. As I said I could not come. So I advised to continue with the BBBJ which she did so good before. She did and I closed the eyes to concentrate her BBBJ and to come. It didn’t work. I think she felt uncomfortable not being able to make me come. She made a last try. She again put my dick into her. Bareback. She seemed to want to please me even if it is against her principles. We did some strokes about half a minute to a minute until I realized what was going on there. I said ‘I give up’ to her (she was already afraid about the time as mamas an had knocked the door twice already). Did not complain the unagreed bareback. She asked a doubting service ok? I answered ‘don’t worry’ service ok.
Put on my clothes, got the energy drink and left.
Summary MIARI: I can say my overall first Miari visit was the best so far, followed by the second. Then this time it was a bit more average, but still I think the service is better then in other RLD’s. DFK is almost standard, You have more access to play with the girls body. It is more risky to judge the girls body upfront, so for the ones where outstanding optics is the absolute highest priority, Miari is more ‘risky’. But for overall satisfaction I will still prefer Miari as the RLD to go (considering that 588 is off limits for me – so no judgement possible there). Key element is to have eye to eye and smile contact to the girl during your selection. But don’t forget to smile and have a funny positive attitude yourself as well.
There are some signs that negotiation is possible. I will try next time to do 30 minutes deals as part of my negotiation.
Regards
Brain666
Song Seung Heon
05-05-06, 04:57
To Brain666,
Where did you exactly get serviced? Near the entrance? or the alleys located deep inside? That makes a entire difference in quality. I've been to Miari before, DFKed with girls there, nothing to brag about. I admit some nasty plain girls,some girls are alright I guess. I remember one time I was too drunk to tell, she was about a 5. I DFKed with her, one big mistake. She even gave me a hickey around the neck after we were done. The only reason why I chose her was because she had some ample titties which I liked. BTW, her face sucked horses ass. 588 is a way better option, no need to deal with the overly pushy mamasans and their nasty girls for the same amount. Yes I do admit, you get alot more for your buck, but the hassle from the mamasans and the spooky atmosphere ain't worth it. I say 588 all the way for premium quality korean babes.
Today morning, I went to Miari for P4P around 9:00 AM.
I had drank all night and needed to find a girl so strolled down to the alleys of Miari but almost all shops were closed as well as no touting.
I found one mamasang and asked how much? she quoted me 70,000 as attached on the glass windows for price standardization.
I haggled it down to 60,000 and took a girl.
Not so kind but the looking was that what I liked.
quickly finish the beer and went up to her room.
she asked condom? I said of course.
Service was soso but she knew how to control her muscle and squeezed my little brother a lot like very small pussy. so good fxxk.
overall rating. fuck 9, appearance 8 service 6 price 9.
So decided to treat myself to a little Barber shop action.
Went to the Suji / Ipeuni BBS in Seoul National University area. Please dont be confused with Seoul National University of Education. Two different stops.
Anyway I had Ipeuni before but she didnt have much tits, but the massage was semi decent and she made me cum while fucking on top, so thats a huge plus.
This time I got a girl called Suji who had been written about before. She was wearing a flintstones outfit which was kinda cool.
Nice tits, thats what I really liked. Said she was 34. Anyway so so massage and she then went and did a CBJ. I tried to finger her but she didnt like that.
She then went to fuck in different positions, I was fucking her doggy style and like the look of her face in the mirror looking back at me, sent me over the edge and I pulled out and ripped off the condom and came on her chest.
She freaked out a little because she thought i had fucked her with no condom from behind. Thats kinda relief that the girls kinda take care of themselves.
Tipped her 10k and left.
Not bad, but I think I might find something new around that area. I was put off a lot of them. Even tho they had 2 poles they had Ee Young Wal in korean which I thought meant it was purely a barber shop and no sex but apparently that aint the truth. So if I see that again I will give em a try.
Give Suji a go tho nice titties and she loves to fuck.
I took a pic of her tits with my cell phone. Enjoy.. Also enjoy the tits of some other girl I brought home the other night.
Oh yeah directions..
Do a search in this forum for Seoul National University barbershop..
But it has a furniture store on one side and you walk past that down the steps.
To Brain666,
Where did you exactly get serviced? Near the entrance? or the alleys located deep inside? That makes a entire difference in quality. I've been to Miari before, DFKed with girls there, nothing to brag about. I admit some nasty plain girls,some girls are alright I guess. I remember one time I was too drunk to tell, she was about a 5. I DFKed with her, one big mistake. She even gave me a hickey around the neck after we were done. The only reason why I chose her was because she had some ample titties which I liked. BTW, her face sucked horses ass. 588 is a way better option, no need to deal with the overly pushy mamasans and their nasty girls for the same amount. Yes I do admit, you get alot more for your buck, but the hassle from the mamasans and the spooky atmosphere ain't worth it. I say 588 all the way for premium quality korean babes.
Kimchi Man,
it is difficult for me to explain where I got served, due to the huge area. e.g. I can't refind my first service point. So far it was as well within 50m in the beginning (after station) where more shops have the curtain open, but also in the 'back alleys' deep down.
I have the impression that in the beginning the Mamasans don't approach me so much, lets say 30-50%, while deep inside the area 100% of them approach me.
I stick to my rules if this is front or back alleys: I do my very bast to judge the girl and the figure under the dress. Face body estimation, thickness of arms might indicate thickness off legs and ass to appear leter and so on.
But the most important is that such a 'good pre-judged' girl must smile at me and show indication that I am welcomed. Eye to eye contact and 'wireless sympathy communication'. If she would look shy or even does not look at me, she might take me because of mamasan, but I am sure she keeps me 'on distance' - means no DFK, more mechanical service etc.
So far my smile/ communication oriented selection (by not forgetting the looks and figure judgement) went well. All have been rather acommodating, no hesitation to kiss me and 'open' her body to me. Completely different from my Yongsan experience. The only exception was the girl which luckywise refused me at the end (see report), because I was 'captued' by mamasan and did not stick to my rules.
So I don't care about front or back alley, maybe it's true that near the entrance the average rate is better on our scale, but you find nice ones as well in the back alleys. But it takes more time and more 'stress' with the mamasans, as they don't like if you don't take their girls.
You have to get used to the hassle of the pushing mamasans. In the meantime I am a bit joking with them using my 20 words korean. My 'Agashi issoyo?' (means do you have young woman) out of my foreigners moth always creates a smile and laughing as this is the only of course they offer.
Regarding 588 Quality behind the glas window, I can't say any as I went there only one time in the prime time and no girl (almost, two would have done, but not my taste) in the 8-10 looks there showed attitude to accept me. I still have to find the key (language?), Right time or whatever to get them to accept me. Kimchi Man can you help me with some hint?
How about next time you are in Seoul if you introduce me to some of the stunners to break the ice?
regards
Brain666
Big Kahuna
05-06-06, 21:21
Stopped by Venus An Ma this evening.
Venus is the former Star An Ma. There is a big sign on the building so you
can't miss it. It is written in Korean as well.
The cost is 210K ouch! Komodo is only 180K.
Anyways the set up is similar to Komodo and Teheran.
They give you a locker key and you go and shower, sauna, etc, etc,
They had a hot looking receptionist, probably about an 8.
after the shower, they give you a grey t-shirt and shorts to wear instead of
a robe. There is no jacuzzi in the room. The plus is that there is queen size bed in the room. There is no shower table only a chair. The standard cleaning followed by the oil and body to body rub. She sucked all of my toes, etc, etc. She had a tatoo of two flowers on her back plus a toe ring on her right foot.
The girl I had was about an 8 in looks, performance was about a 7. She gave me multiple BBBJ ( one on the chair, another next to the bed, and the last on the bed). She liked it hard and fast. Had it in multiple positions, plus I was able to put two fingers in her ass. She wouldn't go for anal though. Was able to have a GFE with her though. Kissing and hugging etc, etc. She spent extra time just chatting after, until the phone call and even then she spent a few extra minutes. All converation was in Korean but she let a few english words slip. I will probably go back for another round to see if I can get her into anal.
BK
Asia Traveler 2
05-07-06, 01:54
I arrived at the Renaissance about 11 PM last night. Tired, but still in the mood for some female interaction. So I left the hotel and walked around the neighborhood a bit. While walking was approached by a man asking if I wanted a girl. He claimed to represent several An Ma's, and he would take me to a good one. Price, 200KW, which I know is typical, so I followed (like a lamb to the slaughter.)
He took me to the Sun An Ma, told me I would get two hours, one hour blind massage, one hour sex with girl. (I remember seeing reports here about Sun, but I did not remember if they were positive or negative.) I paid and was taken to my room and left there. It was clean, nice shower with jacuzzi, TV, etc. I was not sure of the sequence, removed my clothes and began showering off myself. A girl came in, long dark hair, 8 face, body looked OK. She looked at me with some puzzlement I think, wondering perhaps why I was showering. She got undressed, revealing about a 6 or 7 body, nice breasts, a little extra weight at the waist. Immediately I was concerned, however, because she looked unhappy. No smile, no meeting of the eyes, she just did not look like she wanted to be there. Didn't speak any English. (Name So Ra, by the way.)
Well, at this point it is difficult to withdraw, put on clothes, go downstairs, ask for a different girl. So I hoped she would thaw out. She showered me, with surgical precision. I almost expected her to put on surgical gloves! I got into the tub, she sat on the edge, massaged one foot at a time, then my hands.
Next, onto the bed. She oiled me, and herself as well, and did an all over breast massage for about 5 minutes on the back ,plus rubbing her pussy over me. Then wiped off the oil, and began kissing and licking. The physical feeling was very good, but the experience was significantly diminished by her lack of smiling and mechanical nature.
Next, over to the front side, more breast massage, more pussy rub. She removed my hand when I tried to caress her. She was not receptive to kissing. Well, not much to do except lie back and enjoy the experience for what it is worth. Next, on to BBBJ, which was good, not great, for about 3 minutes or so. Then she slipped the cover on, and lay on her back for me. She was OK in this position, I could touch and suck on her breasts (which really were lovely), kissed her forehead and neck, but no lips. She warmed up a little bit, but not too much. Still a very mechanical session, not too stimulating. I had to sort of urge myself on to the finish.
Then she cleaned me up, we sat together on the bed for about 10 minutes waiting for the clock to tick off to the end of the hour. She was a little more pleasant, we were able to communicate just a bit. She said (using fingers) she is 27 (looks 22 to me), and said she was very tired. She almost smiled a little while we were sitting (but not quite....)
Clearly, not worth the 200 KW. But, probably better than going straight to bed after my 30 hour trip.
I walked through Sinyongsan tonight. The weather was warm and I enjoyed the night.
Short version: I was with a girl named 정진 (Jung Jin). W70,000. I didn't negotiate. She was cute, friendly, and a good kisser. Had a good time.
Long version:
I usually start at the top (north) end of the area and walk south. Let's try a map:
The Yongsan train station and the big CGV theater are over here.
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I'll call this the West Row
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and this is the two parts... ...of the Main Row
(Korean customers only)
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I'll call this the South Row... ...so this is the North Row.
Up at the top of the north row is a girl I have been with before. She's friendly and I recommend her. She has a dog. Tonight she was sitting outside with her dog in her lap, enjoying the warm night. I said "hi" and kept walking. I only saw her and one other woman on the north row.
The South row had the best chicks (for foreigners, that is), as usual. I asked Jung Jin her price, and kept going. I walked to the end of the south row, looked for cops (if they are out, they are in this area) and up the west row, which was dead, as usual. This is where the oldest women usually are.
I doubled back to the south row and found Jung Jin and went right in. She gave me a drink, took my cash, left for a few minutes to wash herself, came back and washed me with a bowl of water and a hand towel, and then she started giving me a nice blow job as she was kneeling on the floor and I was standing over her. Nice eye contact as she looked up at me.
Could have come in a minute...but, of course, didn't want to, so we got on the bed. I went down on her. Then I asked her to turn over and tongued her backside. That only lasted a minute or so before she asked me to enter her.
By the way, she has an attractive bush. (It's my style, may not be yours.)
Anyway, during missionary sex she puckered her lips and leaned up to kiss me. That was a nice surprise. Full tongue action from there on out.
I didn't last long. This girl was hot.
I would definitely go back. She smiled a lot, and was sincerely friendly. She can't speak English, but we didn't need to.
She is off Sundays and Wednesdays. She gave me a business card.
If you go to the south row, she was the fourth one down on the right:
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About there. She had medium-length, straight black hair. Not big tits, but that doesn't concern me.
I'd recommend.
By the way, my negotiating style, and yours might be different, is this: I walk all the way through once, to get the lay of the land. At that time, I'll ask for a price from those I am interested in. It's been W70,000 for a long time. I don't negotiate at that point, because I don't plan to stop looking around at that point, and I think it's tacky to negotiate, get a discount, and then say "no thanks" and move on. Anyway, once I've seen everything, I go back to the girl I am interested in. At this point, I negotiate if I am in the mood, or if there is more than one girl I am interested in. Tonight I didn't negotiate, because this was the only girl I wanted.
So, if I get it for W60,000, great; if not, no big deal.
That's it. Please post when you go out.
Completely unrelated side note: Twice lately, I've been in Itaewon on dates with Koreans, and both times towards the end of the night I thought to myself, "I'd like to walk around with this girl, found a quiet park or walking area, make out with her, and then call it a night." Trouble is, either in or around Itaewon I don't know of anywhere other than a doorway where I can make out. Experienced hands, can you give some advice?
It's not like the states, where almost every city and town has a place to "hide from the light," as Frank Sinatra eloquently put it in song.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
It's hard to exactly pinpoint that time frame, but I would have to say after midnight, pushing towards 1-3 am, when drunk men frolic the streets looking for meat.
At least in the case of MPs (at least in Kangnam), 1-3am guarantees at least a 1 hour wait excluding Sundays. As for the more well known parlours, a weekday visit after work can be an excruciating 2-3 hour wait.
DH
Tequila Kid
05-08-06, 21:08
I'm headed to Seoul next week.
I am often in China, Taiwan, but its been 15 years since my last time in Seoul. Back then, mongering was not an option. This time I want to try it. Yes, I will give report with comparisons to Hong Kong and China.
Problem is, I have been reading the Seoul forum but It’s not clear how close my hotel is to mongering action.
I will stay at COEX INTERCONTINENTAL SEOUL,
159 SAMSEONG-DONG, GANGNAM-GU
SEOUL, 135-975
The hotel is near Samsung station. According to previous post;
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=450325&postcount=2782
I should be near many suana and bbs facilities, am I right?
If yes, appreciate a map or clear directions on how to find the action.
Also, do working girls hang out at or nearby Coex Intercontinental hotel? Or at the hotel bar?
Finally, is there much freelancer activity in Seoul? If so, please send info.
TK
Spotted Dick
05-09-06, 00:59
yesterday i met up with our friend asia traveler 2 to introduce him to the room salons of seoul, and visited the well-known "good day" room salon near seollung station. pretty lackluster. i feel like i let the guy down.
then, dropping him off back at his hotel, disaster struck. the lexy anma is not as good as it was the first time! the service there was pretty lackluster as well. and on top of that, they wanted to charge me w230,000 in cash instead of the w200,000 i had brought. unluckily for me, i talked my way through that and got in for w200,000 but they wanted me to make sure to tell asia traveler 2 that tomorrow it would be w230,000. on my way out, two korean guys were checking in and they had paid by credit card. i peered over the machine to see the receipt: w360,000 for two, or w180,000 each on the card as opposed to w230,000 in cash (and more for the card?) they want to demand from us foreigners.
i speak korean. so i complained. the door guy said i "had to understand" (which is the usual korean bullshit when caught in something undefensible) that the girls dislike foreign customers and so they require more money to service us. somehow i'm sure the girls don't get the extra w50,000.
i'm almost afraid to have mentioned this, for fear of winding up seoulman again. but he's on my ban list so what the fuck -- i don't have to see anything that guy writes.
i cannot recommend lexy again.
SS,
In that same neighborhood, you should try checking out Fox instead. They had a decent lineup when I went last Saturday and expect a Buk-Chang-Dong ending - something I'm sure you're very familiar with. Prices are reasonable given that you know the right waiters.
Sorry to hear about your experience at Lexy.
DH
Spotted Dick
05-09-06, 03:16
I've been to Fox as well. Fox was very expensive, although Fox had no staff who know me from Bukchang-dong so I'm sure they had me pegged as a mark. My preferred Kangnam room salon has to be "Chowoni-Jip" or "House on the Prairie". Good price and great service. But the staff there all know me from Bukchang-dong -- when I walk in the lobby it's the "Norm!" treatment. Apparently this is where the now-closed Playboy Club moved.
Anyway, Bukchang-dong remains superior in my opinion. The Seoul Club and Buckingham are recommended. Lately though I've been missing the "Round 2" I used to get in Bukchang-dong, and have been wondering about trying a "Round 2" club in Jangan-dong. The tabloid newspapers report very favorably on that district.
Traveler1234
05-09-06, 03:31
I'm headed to Seoul next week.
I will stay at COEX INTERCONTINENTAL SEOUL,
159 SAMSEONG-DONG, GANGNAM-GU
SEOUL, 135-975
TK
Btw the Coex and Grand Intercont Hotel is the Oakwood Premier Hotel (next to Express terminal)....directly across the street you should see several double barbarshop polls...these should be BBS.
I have never personally done BBS in Seoul but if you do a search, you get more information. Also try reports of distinction for standard operating prcedures, expectations, pricing,etc.
Good luck
SS,
Seems like you've been everywhere!
Anyways, we ended up paying W900,000 for a party of 5 (all inclusive). A fair price but given networking and frequency, prices will vary accordingly per person/waiter/company/etc.
As for the Jang-Ahn Dong rooms, I'm also curious to see whats up. I used to frequent there quite often but given the numerous touts and unpleasant surprises lying behind the doors, my negative experiences outweigh the pleasant ones and thus the area is avoided altogether.
Thanks for the reference though on the other establishments. Perhaps I will make a visit in the near future.
DH
LoneStar69
05-09-06, 11:10
First, I would like to commend Vox Jox on his superb post about this area. Great map and info!
I took my second trip to the Yongsan RLD after drinking a few too many beer last Friday night. Refering to Vox Jox's map, I walked into the North Row and saw Su Jin squating down outside the door holding her dog. As I approached she quickly stood up and touted her "Good Service". I asked how much and she replied with 70K, which was 10K more than I paid a couple of weeks ago. But she was cute stroking her little puppy, so I decided to take her up on her offer.
Inside, her 5'8" frame was quickly reduced to 5'2" after taking off her massive platform shoes. She brought me into the small bathroom and had me squat to wash me off. She spent a few seconds splashing and washing my backside squeaky clean. Definitely a good sign.
I laid on the bed while she began a soft BBBJ for a couple of minutes, then she asked if I enjoyed tossed salad. "Yes, of course", I said. She was pretty enthusiastic and had a firm tongue. After a few minutes, she return to BBBJ and then slid on the cover. Then, she pulled me up and laid down for some missionary. She allowed me to cup and squeeze her small breasts, but did not like her nipples played with. Her service became somewhat mechanical after that and seemed to be waiting for me to finish the job. After a few more minutes, I finished up. She washed me and while I dressed she offered me a small drink.
Overall, better than my first trip to Yongsan RLD. Her face was a 7, body 7, service started high but tanked to a 6.
Spotted Dick
05-09-06, 13:38
W180,000 per person is what I would expect with a group of five. For two it's usually W200,000-250,000 apiece.
Completely unrelated side note: Twice lately, I've been in Itaewon on dates with Koreans, and both times towards the end of the night I thought to myself, "I'd like to walk around with this girl, found a quiet park or walking area, make out with her, and then call it a night." Trouble is, either in or around Itaewon I don't know of anywhere other than a doorway where I can make out. Experienced hands, can you give some advice?
It's not like the states, where almost every city and town has a place to "hide from the light," as Frank Sinatra eloquently put it in song.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.
Dude, Dont stay in itaewon, either go down for a midnight stroll down by the Hangang River, or do what I do, take em to CGV Yongsan and stroll around there and see a midnight movie. Another option would be to go to City Hall as behind there is a nice river you guys can walk along and it goes for ages.
Enjoy.
Hello All Senior Bros,
I will be in Seoul this weekend and need some recommendation to hang around. I will be staying at the Hotel BluePearl BluePearl, Cheongdam-Dong, Seoul. Is there any action near the hotel? Would appreciated some help from Senior Brothers.
Thank you.
Seoul Food
05-09-06, 18:34
Yes. Very expensive though. Apkujang area. Yeoksam and Kangnam are a short taxi ride away though.
Hello All Senior Bros,
I will be in Seoul this weekend and need some recommendation to hang around. I will be staying at the Hotel BluePearl BluePearl, Cheongdam-Dong, Seoul. Is there any action near the hotel? Would appreciated some help from Senior Brothers.
Thank you.
Asia Traveler 2
05-09-06, 18:37
As SeoulSurvivor mentioned earlier, we got together yesterday and visited a room salon together. I would not have been able to do it myself, not knowing the lay of the land or the language. He really was gracious and welcoming to me.
SS has known the host for quite a few years, and says the hit-or-miss "hit rate" is about 75% or so. We settled into our room, and he brought in the first four girls for review. Nothing exceptional. The next four... One was really hot with a killer body, the others OK. More girls, and more again. Eventually I settled on one with a great face and body. He chose another, but his host suggested she might not be the best choice(for foreigner) and suggested another.
It was really a mixed bag evening. My girl was really uncomfortable about my goatee, which is short and trimmed. It bothered her when we kissed, or if it touched her anywhere. His girl apparantly hated him, and after about 30 minutes walked out! (No good reason, by the way; he is a perfect gentleman... more or less.)
Good parts: sitting and drinking with lovely ladies, kissing and touching and having company. Bad parts: feeling like we are just a paycheck (which of course we are.) The entire program was kind of mechanical and programmed, right down to the strobe light BBBJ and HJ climax at the end.
Having said all that, I enjoyed my evening, and enjoyed SS's company. This is the first time I've had any facial hair during my Asia travels, and it is clearly not a helpful feature. Well, to quote the sage: it is better to have mongered and lost than never to have mongered at all.
Yes. Very expensive though. Apkujang area. Yeoksam and Kangnam are a short taxi ride away though.Thank you Bro Seoul Food for your information. Are you local to Asian Travellers? What's the damage like in Yeoksam and Kangnam?
Depending upon the establishment, prices vary. Just bring a lot of money with you when you come into Seoul, especially Kangnam.
Typical Kangnam MPs will start off at W180,000.
DH
Hey Tequila,
I stay at the COEX quite often and its pretty dead around there.
If you go downstairs below the hotel lobby and walk through the COEX mall all the way across to the Grand Intercontinental, out the front door you will find some action there.
Out the main doors of the Grand if you go straight across the street you will find a couple of anmas.
If you go to the right across the street from Hyundai dept. store you will find a bunch of bbs.
If you take a cab from there and go to yeoksamdong or sollungdong you will find the area with the most amount anmas.
I'm headed to Seoul next week.
I am often in China, Taiwan, but its been 15 years since my last time in Seoul. Back then, mongering was not an option. This time I want to try it. Yes, I will give report with comparisons to Hong Kong and China.
Problem is, I have been reading the Seoul forum but It’s not clear how close my hotel is to mongering action.
I will stay at COEX INTERCONTINENTAL SEOUL,
159 SAMSEONG-DONG, GANGNAM-GU
SEOUL, 135-975
The hotel is near Samsung station. According to previous post;
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=450325&postcount=2782
I should be near many suana and bbs facilities, am I right?
If yes, appreciate a map or clear directions on how to find the action.
Also, do working girls hang out at or nearby Coex Intercontinental hotel? Or at the hotel bar?
Finally, is there much freelancer activity in Seoul? If so, please send info.
TK
Tequila Kid
05-12-06, 02:02
Khk10,
Thanks for the tip.
I did a search on "Yeoksam", now reading the many post related to that area.
Looks like anmas' get a girl for you at ~ 200Kwon, but bbs services run ~140Kwon. Am I right, or do I have it reversed?
What I want is a good 30 - 45 min session, bbbj followed by full service.
TK
Tequila Kid
05-12-06, 02:06
Any action around Holiday Inn Seoul?
Holiday Inn, 169-1, DOHWA-DONG
SEOUL, 121-040
My agent's office is nearby, I will some free time between meetings, will check out the nearby action.
thanks,
TK
Tequila Kid
05-12-06, 05:58
After checking online maps and reading the forum, it looks like Yongsan is nearby from Holiday Inn.
Is there any action walking distance from the hotel, or am I better off going to Yongsan?
TK
Tequila Kid,
I recall seeing some places around the Holiday Inn as Mapo is a fairly big business district. There's even a MP right next to the hotel but who knows if its foreign friendly.
As for the prices in Yeoksam Station, that sounds about right. You might be better going to a MP given your requests!
Give us some insight!
Good luck hunting!
DH
Song Seung Heon
05-12-06, 11:01
Its been a while since my trip back. This took place a couple months ago. Ventured into 588 RLD, right behind Lotte Department Store. Followed the pink lights as usual. There are two main roads, one narrow and one wide. I usually take my pick at the narrow one where the cars go out. I decided to go to the wide road with more girls. I kept looking around, spotted one with dark brown hair, she was beckoning me to go in. I smiled in return, and there in I go. Despite language barrier, still had good time. She was very accomodating and friendly, even complimented on my looks.. She had very good figure, overall a 8+. I paid 70KW. The room is very clean and personable, seems like I was at my gf's bedroom watching t.v. I lay there naked waiting for her to return. She was very enthusiastic with her technique, licking me all around before proceeding the BBBJ. There she sucks me to get me going, proceeds to put on the condom. She gets on top for awhile, then we switch. She lays there missionary. I proceed to go inside, the problem, my dick had a problem getting hard. She took the condom out, gave me a slight HJ, and gave a tease with her tongue around my nipples to get me hard. She then wipled me again, and gave me a second BBBJ. There I finger her nice round butt as she is sucking me. I mount her missionary again with no luck. I lose my rythm, gave up, could not cum. By the time I get dressed, I am panting to catch my breath. Overall pretty good technique and a nice lay, overall session lasted 20-25 mintues. Some how I wanted to get my AR, how do you ask in korean to the girls hat you want your ass licked?
Hey guys,
I am just coming back to Korea from a business trip and what can I see to my surprise? Lots of good reports!!
Thanks especially Asian Traveler 2, Dizz Hizz, Lonestar69 and Vox Jox.
Not to forget my friend Seoulsurviver of course.
It looks like we get the Seoul forum pretty much to move.
Of course I will continue reporting as well. Couldn't post my last weekend 3 Times in a row Miari visit. Will follow.
regards
Brain666
First, I would like to commend Vox Jox on his superb post about this area. Great map and info!
I took my second trip to the Yongsan RLD after drinking a few too many beer last Friday night. Refering to Vox Jox's map, I walked into the North Row and saw Su Jin squating down outside the door holding her dog. As I approached she quickly stood up and touted her "Good Service". I asked how much and she replied with 70K, which was 10K more than I paid a couple of weeks ago. But she was cute stroking her little puppy, so I decided to take her up on her offer.
Inside, her 5'8" frame was quickly reduced to 5'2" after taking off her massive platform shoes. She brought me into the small bathroom and had me squat to wash me off. She spent a few seconds splashing and washing my backside squeaky clean. Definitely a good sign.
I laid on the bed while she began a soft BBBJ for a couple of minutes, then she asked if I enjoyed tossed salad. "Yes, of course", I said. She was pretty enthusiastic and had a firm tongue. After a few minutes, she return to BBBJ and then slid on the cover. Then, she pulled me up and laid down for some missionary. She allowed me to cup and squeeze her small breasts, but did not like her nipples played with. Her service became somewhat mechanical after that and seemed to be waiting for me to finish the job. After a few more minutes, I finished up. She washed me and while I dressed she offered me a small drink.
Overall, better than my first trip to Yongsan RLD. Her face was a 7, body 7, service started high but tanked to a 6.
Hmmm, reading your description it could rather be the girl I had in my first ever RLD experiemce in Yongsqan
442319
She was the most outside spot on the north row (almost impossible to find) and is in the middle of the must uggly+old offers. This north row is the worst.
A agree with Vox Jox that the South Row is usually the best choice for us foreigners. But also here the quality may vary. Saw already a 8-9 trhere, but at some day/time it can only be 6 at the max.
You never know before.
I further would try to ask for more time: Say: Sam ship pun ok?
Means Sam=3 ship=10 (Sam ship= 30) pun= Minutes.
In Miari all mamasans agreed immediately last weekend (yes reports will follow).
regards
Brain666
You are correct tequila.
Good luck and be safe.
Khk10,
Thanks for the tip.
I did a search on "Yeoksam", now reading the many post related to that area.
Looks like anmas' get a girl for you at ~ 200Kwon, but bbs services run ~140Kwon. Am I right, or do I have it reversed?
What I want is a good 30 - 45 min session, bbbj followed by full service.
TK
LoneStar69
05-13-06, 06:51
this week, i had a free evening near downtown, so i decided to check out the new york anma. i remembered the excellent map and report from brain666 for this anma in the jongno area. this was my first trip to an mp in korea, but read many great reports in this forum and i wanted to check one out. it was easy to find new york anma following his directions and map. (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=451803#post451803)
coming out of the elevator, i was greeted at the front desk and quoted the expected price of 210k. after paying, i was escorted to the locker room. sensing it was my first trip, the young korean man explained i was to take a shower and bath in the sauna, then i would be escorted to the downstairs area. he asked if i would like to spend time with a girl first or have the blind-man massage. i indicated my desire for the fun first, and then i undressed and headed for the showers. the communal shower/sauna was empty since it was fairly early (8pm).
showered, shaved and brush, i was escorted down to the 5th floor to a dimly-lit room with an attractive young lady. she spoke very little english, but my survival korean was helpful. first, she confirmed that i had showered and brushed my teeth. she quickly undressed and revealed a petite body with full b-cup breast. she had firm and round ass, different than most korean women. but she also had a small pouch in the front. then she took my robe off and led me to a shower area. she placed an air mattress on the tile floor and pour hot water on it before i laid down on it. the body to body massage was great in multiple positions with active tongue and hands all over my body with short periods focused on my nipples, gochu and backside. although i am average sized, she grabbed my member several times and told me “big size-uh”. although she seemed a little worried, she continued like a true professional. then she drank a mouthful of mouthwash and began a bbbj. the liquid in her mouth was cool and soon provided a tingling sensation.
after towel drying me, i laid down on the bed where she continued bbbj and more salad tossing while drink some hot liquid, perhaps tea. after a few minutes she tried to apply the condom with her mouth, but it was rather tight and had to use her hands. she began with cowgirl and slowly worked her way down. she was fairly tight and i told her it was ok to go slowly. her range of motion was limited, so after a few minutes i asked her to change positions. now in the missionary position, i was able to slowly work in deeper for better pleasure. slowly increasing my speed, i was better able to enjoy myself and play with her breasts. a few times, when i thrust too deeply, she let a different sound to tell me it was a bit too deep. when i started playing with her button, she began to squeal and became more active. after some more vigorous thrusting, i was soon ready to finish.
after washing off both of us, she offered me a cigarette. i declined, but told her it was ok to smoke one herself. we sat and chatted some while i enjoyed her body with my hands. then i put on my robe and was escorted to a mediocre “blind-man” massage.
overall, it was a very good, but pricey experience. i would rate her 8 for face and body, 9 for attitude and 8 for overall service. next time, i may skip the massage afterward.
MIARI 3 Times in one Night – Hell and heaven close together.
So guys, couldn’t write my last weekend report yet due to a business trip. But here it is, coming in 4 reports..
Seoul Festival Weekend Part 1: 588 (Cheongnyangni)
First went to 588 (Cheongnyangni) for a check after some weeks. As I expect no service for foreigners here, the plan was just to check, unless a real stunner would approach me.
Went there Saturday about 20:30h and found out that only a few girls were at service and there was almost no of the usual stunners. Might have been to early, or many girls have been at the Seoul Festival that time. Was approached by one girl (good looking – 8,5) to my surprise, but she quoted 120k. She said for foreigners it is double. Tried to negotiate combined with a time extension + Korean Price, but we could not agree, even If I was already in the back area/ bedroom. (She had it urgent to bring be back as she obviously didn’t want to let see somebody that she took a foreigner.). So we didn’t agree and I went out (friendly of course).
Resume: It is possible to be served, but difficult, and it should not be the prime time.
To be continued in next report.
Regards
Brain666
MIARI 3 Times in one Night – Hell and heaven close together
So guys, couldn’t write my last weekend report yet due to a business trip. But here it is, coming in 4 reports..
Seoul Festival Weekend Part 2: Miari the 1 – so so
After 588 I headed to my favorite Seoul RLD Miari again. Arrived about 21:00-21:30h there. I wanted to try out this time to gain more time for the session. 30 min should be possible.
Walked through the alleys. In the beginning as usual not too many ask us foreigners, especially not the ones with the open curtains. But So far I knew that girls acan also be nice in the back alleys, even if it takes more time.
But this time I settled more in the ‘front’ area. Picked a girl with nice smile (key for me that they eye chat with you) and a ‘supposed’ 8 figure. Asked mama-san ‘sam ship pun ok? (Means: 30min ok) while she showed me the girls and I did a doubting ‘go away attitude’? She said ok, I smiled to the girl ‘ok? And she smiled back ok.
Went up, she disappeared saying to take shower. I took off all my clothes. She came back after 3 minutes with whet towels. Naked she came down from the assumed 8 to a 7, a little more weight as expected, but absolutely not really much. Just my pre-judgment was different, so that the body figure did not match perfectly with the not so big tits (I don’t need big tits, rather prefer smaller ones, but they need to fit to the body). Ok that’s the Miari disadvantage, you are a little bit buying the ‘cat in the bag’, It’s up to me to do better judgments.
She cleaned me and then started the usual breast licking, slowly going down to my dick mentioning ‘big size’ but didn’t seem to be afraid. Blow job quality was about a 7-7,5.
Kissing by tongue (DFK) was no problem. When asking me to start fucking, I went down to her pussy starting DATY which was not a problem, but I gave it up, because I didn’t want to eat ‘gel and cream’ or whatever she put in her pussy rather the natural pussy juice. (Forgot – condom was put on before after asking Condom ok?). So entered missionary. Changed positions many times. Unfortunately pussy feel was not perfect, she might have put in to much cream before. So even if my dick was continuously hard and I could fuck her in many positions, and she was willing to do everything, I could not come. So I fucked really a long time, almost the whole 30 minutes agreed. She was rather exhausted. Me too, but without being able to come. So after mama-san had already knocked the door twice (she followed our 30+ minutes time schedule) I gave up.
Put on clothes. The girl asked for tip – the first time I experienced this in an RLD. Ok after such a lung continuous fucking and the extra time I spent I gave her 10k.
Overall Experience: 7
To be continued in next report.
regards
Brain666
MIARI 3 Times in one Night – Hell and heaven close together
So guys, couldn’t write my last weekend report yet due to a business trip. But here it is, coming in 4 reports..
Seoul Festival Weekend Part 3: Miari the 2nd- the miss
After not coming and being a bit sweaty from my first Miari fuck, I paused at one of the food/ drink stops. Had 2 beers, which I shared ‘chatting’ (my 10 words Korean’) with 2 other mama-sans. Was a kind of funny and they seemed enjoying having a foreigner customer friend. Maybe a unique experience for them. You can have advantage or disadvantage out of this (I was thinking more towards ‘advantage’).
After drinking I asked one of the mama-sans to show me her girls. The was of course happy to do that, and she had a real cute one there as well. I asked again 30 minutes ok? – she said yes, while the girl seemed a little disappointed about that, even if she had smiled at me before.
Damn- should have used my sixth sense and stop it.
I didn’t, so went up, paid, got ‘my room’ and started to undress why she went out to collect the staff (whet tissues, condom). She came back completely naked and I was surprises about the cute body. A small (not tall) body with rather large tits, which I assumed really natural (checked for operation, touched etc. to verify) – or really perfectly ‘made’- but I think still natural. Nice hips, perfect ass, nice face. A 9 in my scale. Wow- good choice I thought- Until she started the service.
After cleaning with the wet towels, she started kissing my nipples and did a so called BBBJ for less then 30sec. Almost only touching a little of my dick with her tongue. Then she quickly pulled out the condom put it over and then continued with a CBJ, better but not better then average. She then went on me horse riding style. I turned her to go missionary and tried to DATY her, she didn’t want, kissed her breast – which she ‘just allowed’ and my try for DFK was clearly rejected.
I could use her Pussy, but she rather took all efforts to keep me on distance. Just missing that she pulled out a ‘distance holder’, because if I just narrowed a little she immediately pulled me away to keep minimum 25 cm distance to her face.
Under this circumstance it was again impossible to come for me, even if my dick didn’t show any sign of relaxation. We changed positions many times, she rode me, I doggied and used her pussy in all directions (while she was sometimes creaming her pussy in between – which is counterproductive of course), but it didn’t help – I couldn’t come. Always she tried to keep distance – much more then a girl ever tried so far at the RLDs. You can get crazy if you have a real cute body for fuck and then kept so much on distance. But she had to ‘work hard’ for that – she was really exhausted – he he.
Finally I gave up counting this as my worst Miari RLD experience so far. A good example that a cute and nice 9 scaled body does not necessarily substitute a non welcomed behave.
Overall experience: 6, Body shape: 9
To be continued in next report.
Regards
Brain666
MIARI 3 Times in one Night – Hell and heaven close together
So guys, couldn’t write my last weekend report yet due to a business trip. But here it is, coming in 4 reports..
Seoul Festival Weekend Part 4: Miari the 3rd - the heaven on earth
After this I was thinking on heading home without coming this night. But I continued to walk through the huge area and used the side alleys on the way back. Continued checking many mama-sans offers until I finally found another cute one, which I judged also as a 8,5-9 in face and under dress.
She smiled immediately at me and I was asking again mama-san and as well the girl: 'Sam ship pun ok?' (30 min. ok?). I asked 3 times the girl and she smiled ‘throwing’ the ok in ‘air kiss form’ to me. Ok, this is a deal I thought on her response. Mama-san offered – how about 2 Girls for 140k. – Wow Good Idea generally and a good offer– and I will consider this for later sessions (didn’t know that this is possible here – we should think on an orgy). I said sorry, not today, mentioned I already did before and no more money, but next time.
Was guided to the 3rd floor of the house, put of clothes. She came back 3 –5 minutes later with many whet towels. She undressed in front of me. She has a Small height (maybe just max. 1,60 m) only, but a perfect body composition. A 9 on our scale. Breasts small (B-Cup), but remarkably nice formed fitting perfectly to the body – that is how I like it. Nice ass, not at all fat, but also not extremely skinny. Such a sweaty.
She very carefully cleaned my dick mentioning the big size. She started with a big tongue kiss, followed by kissing my breast, followed by kissing my body downwards – similar as anma massage girls do (has she worked there before?). Then she carefully approached my dick and proceeded with a BBBJ par excellence (rating 9,5). She licked my balls intensively followed by shaft and top. All my blood was streaming towards my dick, on the way to explode.
After about 6-8 minutes doing this, she asked condom ok and then covered it. She lay down. I kissed her- deep DATY, kissed her breasts – she liked it having her nipples ‘tongued’. I went down by kissing her body – she liked it – I went further down approaching her pussy.
What a nice pussy presentation. The pussy around the lips was shaved and was remarkably formed as a demonstrator model for University students couldn’t be better. Her pubic hair was there, but perfectly trimmed. The pussy presented to me tasted as it looked. No cream was added before. I licked carefully from outside to inside taking time. What a taste. She seemed to like it – natural body fluid was coming, she really enjoyed the DATY breath got quicker, her eyes were closed. The body was shaking. Not sure if she came, but she obviously enjoyed.
She then gave me the sign to enter her. She asked ‘ slowly’ which I did. I entered more or less in ‘virgin entering mode’. (you guys know that). Stroking very slowly and every time just a little more. This makes the girls usually really ‘hungry for cock’. She closed the eyes again, I kissed (very DFK) her, why I little by little slowly was coming inside more and more. At the end she seemed to enjoy the full stroke – still very slowly (not like a rabbit) – stroke deep inside and hold deep inside. She was the exact opposite of the last girl – she wanted to be as close as possible – trying to melt herself with my body. Her tongue was trying to reach my stomach, it couldn’t be deeper.
Guys I am honestly proud of me. I provided a perfect BFE (Boy Friend Experience) to her and she obviously liked it – and I got the best ever GFE in return having her rather melting inside me – I said ‘sarang heyo’ (I love you) to her, which she liked to hear. This was my by far best ever GFE in all my mongering experience outdating a huge number of real girlfriends. So incl. real girlfriend sessions, this session was in the top 15% of my life.
We continued in several positions – all you can think of, I finally came in a rather huge explosion. She removed the condom, gave my creamed dick a deep kiss and cleaned the dick with towels. We still had about 3-5 min Time which I used to kiss/ eat her body all over, saying ‘sarang heyo’ which she liked ‘queaking’ loudly.
I can imagine, that this might have been the best fuck of her life ever, I don’t think she had enough good experience so far. For me it was under the top 15%.
Wow – For sure I will go back – difficult to locate the house again.
Overall Rating: Body 9 ((according my taste),
Overall experience: 10.
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As soon as I study a bit more Korean, I will ask if it is possible to date such girls outside the Miari, or take home. My next step will be 1 hour sessions maybe with some surcharge, or the offered two girl session. Lets see what I can figure out. It seems I am getting a Miari specialist.
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Spent 210k for 3 sessions in Miari. + 10k Tip + 10k drinks with mama-sans this Saturday. Not too bad (even if there was some miss)
If my best experience would provide shower for me I would not need an anma anymore.
But of course I will still visit anmas
Regards
Brain666
As soon as I study a bit more Korean, I will ask if it is possible to date such girls outside the Miari, or take home. My next step will be 1 hour sessions maybe with some surcharge, or the offered two girl session. Lets see what I can figure out. It seems I am getting a Miari specialist.
Great story, though I cringed when I heard the "sarang-heyo". I think it's just too cheesy. One of the girls I used to go to often a few years ago would often tell me "sarang-heyo" while I was entering her, which annoyed me.
As for 1 hour sessions... You should get the 1 hour sessions for 60K-70K. Pay the same amount, just negotiate for more time. If it's a weekday, during off-peak hours (or even early evening weekends) it should be fine. Sunday is a great day for a bargain.
Some shops with lots of foot traffic won't give you a deal though because they get so many people going in and out (literally) that they don't need to negotiate with you. Forget those places.
As for dating the girls, yes it is possible, but forget it. I've dated two girls from Miari and the fact that they worked at Miari should've been a huge red flag: Mental issues, alcoholism, mood disorders, excessive crying, etc. At first, I must admit it was a turn-on because I felt like I was being a personal savior to them.
However, In my perverted attempt to help these girls out, I ended up helping no one and ended up getting frustrated and heartbroken. You can't turn a ho into a housewife. If you want a housewife, you'd better look elsewhere. I'm dead serious.
Don't get involved. Take it from one who went through it... TWICE. I'll never let it happen again. No matter how sweet they are now, or how good they fuck, or how good they smell, whatever it is... it's not worth all the other shit you have to go through. Take it from me, an old Miari expert.
Also, generally you can not take them home. I was a Miari Master a few years ago, and I was there at least four times a week. I wasn't always "playing" there, but I always had people visiting from other countries and I'd take them there. As a result, I became friendly with a lot of the people who worked in the area, from the mamasan's, to the street vendors, even the couple that owns the chicken restaurant. It even got to a point where many of the people in the area thought I was a pimp. I guess it helped that I always wore slacks and dress shirts, just hanging around the area.
One of the shops, became a favorite of mine, and I took groups there often. I'd go so far as to say we paid their rent and then some! We were always treated with respect and given great service there.
Anyway, once that "trust" was established, I was able to take the girls out. They will probably quote you 1,000,000 KRW to 1,200,000 KRW or even more. However, I paid in the 600,000 KRW range. I would get these girls from 8 PM - 9 AM the next day. That's 13 hours (46,000 KRW / hour). Sometimes, the girls would stay past noon. That's 16 hours (37,500 / hour).
However, I wouldn't recommend that unless you make that kind of money. Back then, I was making about 12,500,000 KRW monthly. Unfortunately, things haven't been so good as of late, but I still make OK money.
PS: You can always pay for an all-nighter, but if they don't know and trust you, you have to leave the girls there. Basically, everything you do is done in that house, in that tiny little room. I don't think I'd be able to spend 13 hours in a tiny room like that.
PPS: You can try 588 and take the girls out there, as they are more lenient on girls leaving. It might be more expensive though, since I think those girls work on volume.
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However, In my perverted attempt to help these girls out, I ended up helping no one and ended up getting frustrated and heartbroken. You can't turn a ho into a housewife. If you want a housewife, you'd better look elsewhere. I'm dead serious.
Don't get involved. Take it from one who went through it... TWICE. I'll never let it happen again. No matter how sweet they are now, or how good they fuck, or how good they smell, whatever it is... it's not worth all the other shit you have to go through. Take it from me, an old Miari expert.
Also, generally you can not take them home.
Anyway, once that "trust" was established, I was able to take the girls out. They will probably quote you 1,000,000 KRW to 1,200,000 KRW or even more. However, I paid in the 600,000 KRW range. I would get these girls from 8 PM - 9 AM the next day. That's 13 hours (46,000 KRW / hour). Sometimes, the girls would stay past noon. That's 16 hours (37,500 / hour).
PS: You can always pay for an all-nighter, but if they don't know and trust you, you have to leave the girls there. Basically, everything you do is done in that house, in that tiny little room. I don't think I'd be able to spend 13 hours in a tiny room like that.
PPS: You can try 588 and take the girls out there, as they are more lenient on girls leaving. It might be more expensive though, since I think those girls work on volume.
Thanks for your advise.
But don't worry, even if I had an extremely good experience, I am not planning to convert a Miari girl to a (or even my) housewife. No intention to be so missionary. I just want to improve the fun and also the fun/ cost ratio as good as possible.
It seems that time negotiations in Miari are much easier then cost negotiations. So I want to build some trust for extended activities above the 15 minutes time slot. (ok 30 minutes is already achieved)
My experience is, that if I am nice to the girls and they like me, I get much in return for free. I want relaxed girls and to be the exception where their duty is combined with some fun for themselves as well.
So far it seems that i never checked the fully busy hours so far. They seem to be after midnight. Even last Saturday at about 22:00-23:00h, yes there were some customers, but rather far away from what I called busy.
I am interested in what else you can arrange in Miari. Ok I understand that 2 girls at once is possible. How about group activities, lets say 2-2 or 2-4. It seams that this is rather uncommon in Kore as well as gang bang. But I don't necessarily need this, but from time to time it is something different.
If I want to have all nighters, it is much easier to discover normal girls in normal bars in Insadong or other busy places. It is rather easy to get phone numbers there and in the following some girlfriend/ temporary accompany/ fuck if you are not to pushy to score during the first night. If it is always a good advise if you are married (even if you don't hide it) is another question.
regards
Brain66
PS: You can always pay for an all-nighter, but if they don't know and trust you, you have to leave the girls there. Basically, everything you do is done in that house, in that tiny little room. I don't think I'd be able to spend 13 hours in a tiny room like that.
PPS: You can try 588 and take the girls out there, as they are more lenient on girls leaving. It might be more expensive though, since I think those girls work on volume.
Hey byung, if you are such an insider,
do you know and could you explain, how the business model in Miari and potentially in other areas (which might be different) works?
Something like: The shop owners have the business, based on their rental Fee. The girls contract with the shop owners. They get a XX% provision per fuck/ per day etc? What would be duties and freedom of the girls.
I would be courious to know that. Having had good relations to some of the girls you might know.
Do the girls in Miari make more money as in anmas or Business clubs?
What brings a girl to sign up there instead of other 'erotic' service areas?
What girls are typically in such areas?
(I guess in anmas there are sometimes even students or office girls who want to make some extra mony, while in an RLD you have more hard - fuck- work and also risk (STD, AIDS) in exchange of more income potential)
This would be my diagnosis - but in fact not knowing anything.
If you don't want to publish it you can also PM me.
But I am courious to know.
regards
Brain666
Chris Norton
05-13-06, 13:00
Interesting reading, just seem like there is an abundance of available Korean women over here to the point where no one should have to try to convert a hooker to a housewife. Think with the right head gents!
Great story, though I cringed when I heard the "sarang-heyo". I think it's just too cheesy. One of the girls I used to go to often a few years ago would often tell me "sarang-heyo" while I was entering her, which annoyed me.
As for 1 hour sessions... You should get the 1 hour sessions for 60K-70K. Pay the same amount, just negotiate for more time. If it's a weekday, during off-peak hours (or even early evening weekends) it should be fine. Sunday is a great day for a bargain.
Some shops with lots of foot traffic won't give you a deal though because they get so many people going in and out (literally) that they don't need to negotiate with you. Forget those places.
As for dating the girls, yes it is possible, but forget it. I've dated two girls from Miari and the fact that they worked at Miari should've been a huge red flag: Mental issues, alcoholism, mood disorders, excessive crying, etc. At first, I must admit it was a turn-on because I felt like I was being a personal savior to them.
However, In my perverted attempt to help these girls out, I ended up helping no one and ended up getting frustrated and heartbroken. You can't turn a ho into a housewife. If you want a housewife, you'd better look elsewhere. I'm dead serious.
Don't get involved. Take it from one who went through it... TWICE. I'll never let it happen again. No matter how sweet they are now, or how good they fuck, or how good they smell, whatever it is... it's not worth all the other shit you have to go through. Take it from me, an old Miari expert.
Also, generally you can not take them home. I was a Miari Master a few years ago, and I was there at least four times a week. I wasn't always "playing" there, but I always had people visiting from other countries and I'd take them there. As a result, I became friendly with a lot of the people who worked in the area, from the mamasan's, to the street vendors, even the couple that owns the chicken restaurant. It even got to a point where many of the people in the area thought I was a pimp. I guess it helped that I always wore slacks and dress shirts, just hanging around the area.
One of the shops, became a favorite of mine, and I took groups there often. I'd go so far as to say we paid their rent and then some! We were always treated with respect and given great service there.
Anyway, once that "trust" was established, I was able to take the girls out. They will probably quote you 1,000,000 KRW to 1,200,000 KRW or even more. However, I paid in the 600,000 KRW range. I would get these girls from 8 PM - 9 AM the next day. That's 13 hours (46,000 KRW / hour). Sometimes, the girls would stay past noon. That's 16 hours (37,500 / hour).
However, I wouldn't recommend that unless you make that kind of money. Back then, I was making about 12,500,000 KRW monthly. Unfortunately, things haven't been so good as of late, but I still make OK money.
PS: You can always pay for an all-nighter, but if they don't know and trust you, you have to leave the girls there. Basically, everything you do is done in that house, in that tiny little room. I don't think I'd be able to spend 13 hours in a tiny room like that.
PPS: You can try 588 and take the girls out there, as they are more lenient on girls leaving. It might be more expensive though, since I think those girls work on volume.
Mike Schmidt
05-14-06, 12:34
Greeting everyone on the board I am a newbie but really enjoy it thanks to all the contributors
Just wondering if anyone knows a good place to hunt for russian girls in Itaewon or Seoul
I have wandered around Itaewon quite a bit and have only run across a few at Rio club but they are just there for drinks
I have been to burger king on a weekend night and see korean guys with hot russian girls all the time
In addition I heard a urban legend that some of the russian performers at lotte world sometimes hang out at the bar in lotte world after work
Can anyone confirm this
Thanks in advance to everyone
Lionheart8
05-14-06, 15:27
Overall, it was a very good, but pricey experience. I would rate her 8 for face and body, 9 for attitude and 8 for overall service. Next time, I may skip the massage afterward.
I just returned from trip to HK and Macau and was pleasantly surprised that the Seoul mongers have been quite active..Brain666 definitely takes the prize...good report from Lonestar69 too.
Lonestar, heard that if you choose not to have the massage, you pay less....maybe KRW150,000 or KRW160,000. Is this true?
Welcome back Byung,
Typical Kypo drivel coming out of your mouth again, anything to keep a foreigner from going near a Korean Girl.
Forget those places.
As for dating the girls, yes it is possible, but forget it.
Don't get involved.
However, I wouldn't recommend that unless you make that kind of money.
What do they say - you can take the Korean out of Korea but you can't take the Korea out of the Korean.
Their you go again, 1 million won this , 1 million won that, laughable, parading around like Koreas version of Hugh Hefner who has the "inside scoop" on quality p4p in SK, lol.
They will probably quote you 1,000,000 KRW to 1,200,000 KRW or even more. However, I paid in the 600,000 KRW range.
Back then, I was making about 12,500,000 KRW monthly
I was a Miari Master a few years ago
I still make OK money
Good luck in life, but stop prancing around like a big swinging dick because you do little to enhance the experience for your typical battling punter stuck in that god forsaken place filled with the sort of virulent 11 year old attitudes that you so elloquently espouse in a place that I am happy to have as a far distant memory as I type. Gents, monger on!
Lionheart8
05-14-06, 17:01
Greeting everyone on the board I am a newbie but really enjoy it thanks to all the contributors
Just wondering if anyone knows a good place to hunt for russian girls in Itaewon or Seoul
I have wandered around Itaewon quite a bit and have only run across a few at Rio club but they are just there for drinks
I have been to burger king on a weekend night and see korean guys with hot russian girls all the time
Lots of Russian and Polish chicks hang out at LimeLight disco. It's right beside Hamilton Hotel. Some do go to JJ's at Hyatt too. Don't know whether they're call girls or not....but I did hook up with a student there so can try....
"Do the girls in Miari make more money as in anmas or Business clubs?
What brings a girl to sign up there instead of other 'erotic' service areas?
What girls are typically in such areas?
(I guess in anmas there are sometimes even students or office girls who want to make some extra mony, while in an RLD you have more hard - fuck- work and also risk (STD, AIDS) in exchange of more income potential)
This would be my diagnosis - but in fact not knowing anything."
Brian,
I would think that the girls in the well established business clubs make more money overall. Depending upon the establishment, a business club girl (aka room girls) can make a generous amount of money in a given month given their popularity amongst frequent visiting clients and/or overall looks/sevice. Not to mention, certain establishments will pay the room girls a portion of the sales amount if they can convince their customer to buy more drinks.
Even at the very high end business clubs/rooms, the costs for the "agashis" are quite costly but based on overall looks and appearance, these girls can command a decent amount of money. Even low profile celebrities can be discovered at these venues and they come with a hefty price tag.
Girls at the RLDs and MPs cannot compete. I would think most working girls would prefer to work at a room given that they can drink and hold a conversation with some working professionals.
As a side note, I once hung out with a MP girl from 조아 (Good massage - located in the alley behind the Kyobo building at Kangnam Station) and she told she was able to save W70,000,000 in two years. She was obviously not a full time worker (perhaps just weekends) but saved a decent amount of money granted that place charged W180,000.
DH
Your an idiot Kapalika. If you dont like what Byung has to say, then PM him. Why waste our time and effort with this crap. Byung has given a lot of good advice in the past about Miara because he is Kyopo and doesnt have the hard time that us foreigners do when it comes to this stuff.
So I am assuming your the guy that heard Korean girls were easy because you were white and came over here and had a rude surprise or something. Unless you have something worth contributing. Shut your trap.
Monger on pplz.
Welcome back Byung,
Typical Kypo drivel coming out of your mouth again, anything to keep a foreigner from going near a Korean Girl.
What do they say - you can take the Korean out of Korea but you can't take the Korea out of the Korean.
Their you go again, 1 million won this , 1 million won that, laughable, parading around like Koreas version of Hugh Hefner who has the "inside scoop" on quality p4p in SK, lol.
Good luck in life, but stop prancing around like a big swinging dick because you do little to enhance the experience for your typical battling punter stuck in that god forsaken place filled with the sort of virulent 11 year old attitudes that you so elloquently espouse in a place that I am happy to have as a far distant memory as I type. Gents, monger on!
Lionheart,
There's a bar in Youido that actually employs Russian girls and goes by the name of Vladivostok. I'm not quite sure what the deal is but you can go drink there and chat with the ladies and perhaps spit some game.
It's in the Hong Wook building in some alley, second or third floor. You will note the sign on the windows.
Hope that helps.
Dizz
Kapalika,
That was funny and quite true!
Mike S,
Try the SPY BAR in Itaewon near Hollywoods. Everytime I have been in there with ladyfriend, it's been packed with Hot looking young russian women. I've been meaning to stop in there alone sometime to see what kind of action I can get into.
Yella Man
Your an idiot Kapalika. If you dont like what Byung has to say, then PM him. Why waste our time and effort with this crap. Byung has given a lot of good advice in the past about Miara because he is Kyopo and doesnt have the hard time that us foreigners do when it comes to this stuff.
Monger on pplz.
I fully agree with this statement.
Byung was giving a fair assessment and a warning not to get engaged.
I can fully understand this and its probably true for a lot of RLD girls around the world.
Even if this would never happen to me, but there are enough guys around who easily get attracted. Just see the many guys who fall in love with Filipinas and Thai girls but just get sucked their money out.
So it was fair to give the statement.
As I was curious I went trough almost all his previous reports. Very interesting his story. And also he is an honest guy. No need to be complained.
Regards
Brain666
1. Do the girls in Miari make more money as in anmas or Business clubs?
2. What brings a girl to sign up there instead of other 'erotic' service areas?
3. What girls are typically in such areas?
(I guess in anmas there are sometimes even students or office girls who want to make some extra mony, while in an RLD you have more hard - fuck- work and also risk (STD, AIDS) in exchange of more income potential)Hey Brain666,
I dont post much(if at all) since what I know/experienced have pretty much been posted already, several times over. Anyways, to answer a couple of these questions.
1. It depends. On the higher end Room Salons and Anmas (Kangnam), the girls make more than Miari ones.
2. Money. Anonymity.
3. You won't necessarily find "normal" girls in this line of work. If they're at a set location say an anma or RLD, they're practically "professionals". None of this student by day, ho by night. The latter you may find with escort services... maybe.
Previously, one could say that a higher caliber of beauty was to be found in anmas, even with Kangnam anmas. Nowadays? Have you seen all the new anmas pop up all around Kangnam all the way to Chungdam? Were there some hidden cache of "better" providers hiding somewhere just to pop up when the anma boom was to happen? No. Alot of the new and even older famous anmas are employed by RLD girls. Yup, Miari, Yongsan, and Jangam girls.
As with most jobs, there is a heirarchy. So goes with the providers. Roughly, it goes like BBS->RLD->Anma->Room Salon... roughly. The perception of higher beauty used to dictate who goes where. Now there are just way too many new anmas and room salons to be so selective.
Take what I posted with a grain of salt. It's only what I gathered from speaking with some mamas at anmas and such. Actually, I complained to the mama at my favorite anma why the quality of girls has been going down, she enlightened me where the girls were coming from. The RLD girls are way too used to the quick mechanical service, opposite of what you look for in a 2 hour anma visit, pampering.
Opulence could surely still be found in Seoul. But I dare say that it will cost you more than 180-200k. If any of you haven't realized yet, Seoul is really getting up there in pricing... The exceptionally beautiful provider you had at an anma 5 years ago can still be had, but I regret it may cost much much higher nowadays. Not worth the cash for me to venture on that, I'm not being paid that much ^^.
Oh, and the guy ragging on Byung. STFU seriously. What have you contributed except spouting and complaining like a little biatch? Look through your post history and yea, you're a "contributing" poster for sure.
Kudos to brothers here for their contributions. Have found it extremely. Educational. Will be in Korea in 1st week of June. Will try some of the pointers. Cheers.
Song Seung Heon
05-20-06, 05:22
I gotta say the quality of pussy does not come near close to the hottness of korean women. Korean women are the hottest out of Asia by far. If you guys want a shot at the stunner at 588 RLD, check her out. She works at the very left corner of the main row where the cars go out. She is an absolute "10". I've banged alot of really hot korean girls, this girl is by far the hottest of the hottest. I think she belongs in the A++ row, she needs her own cubicle. I am so glad I went bareback with her, its good to know I left my man juice inside somewhere in her.
I gotta say the quality of pussy does not come near close to the hottness of korean women. Korean women are the hottest out of Asia by far.
I believe you are only referring to RLD girls in a very specific area that is not accessible to majority of punters. Other RLD service providers in other areas and cities are not the same, whether in quality or quantity. Heck, include the other types of working girls, too. There are average-looking or average-service providers in past reports of mongers with better and wider range of experience (i.e. in other cities and countries). And, I certainly beg to differ on normal average ladies you see on the street, in the department stores, and inside restaurants. I can easily name a couple of spots outside of Korea where you get a hard-on and/or "falls in love" with just a glance. :p
If you guys want a shot at the stunner at 588 RLD, check her out. She works at the very left corner of the main row where the cars go out... I am so glad I went bareback with her, its good to know I left my man juice inside somewhere in her.
Euwww, no thanks. Kwaenchaneyo. No way I would want to mix bodily fluid with whom I have no background info or history. (And, I am not talking about the girl.) On the second thought, I recommend we all avoid 588, just to be safe. ;)
Seeko
I gotta say the quality of pussy does not come near close to the hottness of korean women. Korean women are the hottest out of Asia by far. If you guys want a shot at the stunner at 588 RLD, check her out. She works at the very left corner of the main row where the cars go out. She is an absolute "10". I've banged alot of really hot korean girls, this girl is by far the hottest of the hottest. I think she belongs in the A++ row, she needs her own cubicle. I am so glad I went bareback with her, its good to know I left my man juice inside somewhere in her.
Hi Kimchi Man,
for me your recent reports sound like reports out of your nightly dreams, as you are not in Korea, you might not get as well enough Kimchi and hot girls. I assume you are in the US - and in the US there are much less hotties (unless you are in california) and almost impossible plus dangerous to get access to.
I admit that in your favourite 588 there are some real hot looking girls sometimes (last time I went there during Seoulf festival, there was almost no of this hotties - things are in change).
However saying that those Koreans are by far the only hottest in the world is definitely not true. Every nation has its beauties as well as its turn downs, one more, one less.
I don't want to start a debate on which country has the hottest girls in the p4P scene as this is mostly also a matter of personal taste as we can notice with yourself.
But I think there is a global common sense within us mongerers that you can find real hotties in the eastern European countries (Ukraine, Russia, Baltic states) where many of them are working in the German FKK clubs - you fine real real beauties there- and not to forget the open minded beauties in Brazil and Columbia just to mention some.
If you look at China, where it seams that almost the entire feemale population in their 20s is in P4P or even free for play and within such huge offerings (every 50 m on the streat you are asked by somebody if you vare interested in P4P) you find hotties who can also compete with the korean hotties + the advantage that GFE is the standard. The China girls impress us with an attitute as they enjoy what they do.
I don't want to mention Filipinas as well as Thai and Kambodian.
So Kimchi man, I know your Eyes are sad as you have no access to your favourite hotties in 588, but you should recognize the world as it is. Lots of hotties for us mongerers on a global perspective - not only 588 girls.
Regards
Brain666
PS: your post don't make us jealous any more.
***WARNING*** This is a long post, and not directly related to getting sex. The first part is in response to another member, the second part is a continuation of a story I was telling earlier, as well as I guess my "philosophy" on mongering. -end of warning-
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Based on what someone said below, I just wanted to clear something up:
I am NOT against foreigners having sex with Korean women. This board is mostly non-Korean, and most of my 60+ reports have been to the benefit of all, foreigners AND Koreans.
I've taken foreigners, including businessmen, US military, etc. to get laid at places like 588 and Miari. For example: I took several guys from the US Air Force to Miari. Among them: blacks, whites, latino, and mixed. Oh, and I've even taken a WSG forum member/US businessman to get laid twice in one night. We had pizza for dinner prior to getting laid, and beers in Jongno after getting laid.
Interesting fact: Most of the times I took groups to get laid, was with NON-Koreans.
As for the one who in an indirect way accused me of trying to prevent foreigners from "hooking up" with Korean women: is this revenge for the response I made towards YOUR racist report a few years ago?
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Now for something actually related to this forum (sort of):
I want to elaborate a little on what happened with girl #2 that I dated who was a Miari girl:
We got very, very close, and I thought I was in love with her. I'm sure I was, and it took me about six months to get over her. I'm still not fully recovered from that incident.
She basically called me up one night, it was Thanksgiving, and we went out. She couldn't be with her family, and my immediate family was in the US. We started drinking and she started hinting that something was wrong.
Whatever it was, it made me uneasy. I blocked it out/changed the subject, and we eventually went back to my place.
The next day, after eating and hanging out at my place, she left late in the afternoon, saying she had an appointment.
She called me a few hours later.
She told me she was meeting with her ex-fiance, some guy who'd left her for another woman. She told me she wanted to get back together with him. I can usually keep my cool, and one thing I won't do is force a woman to be with me or make her feel bad about how she feels.
So in my best attempt at an emotionless response, I simply told her "OK". She thanked me, we hung up, and quite simply, I never saw her again.
She would still call, and it was confusing. It still seemed like she wanted to be with me. I assume she was just confused and couldn't decide.
So for the next six months or so, we had a phone-only relationship.
One rainy morning, she called me up, and she basically said she wanted to see me right away. She missed me, and whatnot. I got in a cab, went to the neighborhood she told me to go to... and called her. She said she'd be right out to meet me at the market I was standing in front of.
As I waited in the rain, I couldn't but feel like I was in a real Korean drama.
Anyway, after 10 minutes she hadn't come out, so I called her... no answer. I sent her a text message, no reply. I waited a little longer. Called again, again, another text message. Finally, after 30 minutes of standing in the rain, I sent a final text message to her simply saying: "Okay, I'm going home now".
And I never heard from her again.
Now, I left out some details, mostly her mental issues and alcholism. I prefer to remember her in a more... I guess "sweet" way.
The point is, and this goes back to the post I made a few days or week ago: Don't get involved with these girls. I dated two of them, and it's 0/2.
Why even risk it, when there's so many non-pros out there who don't live the high-stress/low respect/whatever life of being a working girl?
Let's face it, isn't this just about sex? Or to be more specific, having great sex, like a GFE (though a lot of girlfriends won't toss your salad)?
We can have sex with them all we want, but for a relationship... no way.
I often think back to the way I approached the situation and cringe. The moment she told me she was with her ex-fiance I should've stopped talking to her. I was stupid and was still holding onto this irrational vision I had of her and I enjoying watermelon on a sunny Sunday afternoon while watching a lame comedy skit on TV.
If I'm ever put in this kind of situation again (which I highly doubt, because I will try to prevent myself from ever getting that way again), I'll have to take a strong stance and say:
"Look, I want to be with you. But I don't want you working here. I know it's what you do and I don't expect you to change that for me. But, if you think it'd be worth your while to leave so you can be with me, then I'm here for you."
If she is OK with it, then I guess I'd consider it! If not, I'd say goodbye, and let her live her life.
These things just don't work, and someone PM'ed me a few years ago and he'd been with his former working girl for five years (seven now if still together). So I guess in some rare cases it does... but hey, that's like having sex without a condom... you might not get AIDS, but doesn't mean you should go bare.
PS: The one thing that you also have to realize is that you'll probably always wonder what the true feelings are of these girls, especially with the things they say. Are they looking for more repeat business, or do you they really like you? So, they meet you outside of work... that must be proof that she's really into you, right? Or is that an "investment" of her time to trick you?
These are the things I would often think... No matter how much evidence pointed towards her truly liking me, it'd always be on the back of my mind.
I guess the ultimate detector is whether or not she's willing to leave her job to be with you and find a "normal" job.
...I apologize for some of the rambling, but spending most of my time in the US now, I haven't had much time to monger in Seoul. I still check back here once in a while just to see how things are going.
Old time poster here, left Korea about 2.5 years ago but coming back for a visit later this year. Thought I'd drop in to see what's the same, what's changed, and what my options are gonna be.
I spent most of my mongering in the hotel steam baths, a couple upper-scale barber shops and a few Itaewon trips. Reading recent posts, it looks like anmas are taking over the bulk of hottie opportunities and I haven't seen anything about steam baths/turkey baths, etc. Is this an accurate read of the current situation?
Byung,
I couldn't agree more with you. I've "dated" a number of girls who work at room salons and rld's. I admit at first it was fun and exciting but after awhile their emotional and mental issues start to really weigh on you. No matter how normal they might seem at first, sooner or later alot of their personal problems start to get in the way. I wish I could elaborate more on this subject but I think Byung hits the nail on its head when he says, don't fuck with these chicks. Alot of them, and I don't mean all, but most have some serious issues.
***WARNING*** This is a long post, and not directly related to getting sex. The first part is in response to another member, the second part is a continuation of a story I was telling earlier, as well as I guess my "philosophy" on mongering. -end of warning-
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Based on what someone said below, I just wanted to clear something up:
I am NOT against foreigners having sex with Korean women. This board is mostly non-Korean, and most of my 60+ reports have been to the benefit of all, foreigners AND Koreans.
I've taken foreigners, including businessmen, US military, etc. to get laid at places like 588 and Miari. For example: I took several guys from the US Air Force to Miari. Among them: blacks, whites, latino, and mixed. Oh, and I've even taken a WSG forum member/US businessman to get laid twice in one night. We had pizza for dinner prior to getting laid, and beers in Jongno after getting laid.
Interesting fact: Most of the times I took groups to get laid, was with NON-Koreans.
As for the one who in an indirect way accused me of trying to prevent foreigners from "hooking up" with Korean women: is this revenge for the response I made towards YOUR racist report a few years ago?
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Now for something actually related to this forum (sort of):
I want to elaborate a little on what happened with girl #2 that I dated who was a Miari girl:
We got very, very close, and I thought I was in love with her. I'm sure I was, and it took me about six months to get over her. I'm still not fully recovered from that incident.
She basically called me up one night, it was Thanksgiving, and we went out. She couldn't be with her family, and my immediate family was in the US. We started drinking and she started hinting that something was wrong.
Whatever it was, it made me uneasy. I blocked it out/changed the subject, and we eventually went back to my place.
The next day, after eating and hanging out at my place, she left late in the afternoon, saying she had an appointment.
She called me a few hours later.
She told me she was meeting with her ex-fiance, some guy who'd left her for another woman. She told me she wanted to get back together with him. I can usually keep my cool, and one thing I won't do is force a woman to be with me or make her feel bad about how she feels.
So in my best attempt at an emotionless response, I simply told her "OK". She thanked me, we hung up, and quite simply, I never saw her again.
She would still call, and it was confusing. It still seemed like she wanted to be with me. I assume she was just confused and couldn't decide.
So for the next six months or so, we had a phone-only relationship.
One rainy morning, she called me up, and she basically said she wanted to see me right away. She missed me, and whatnot. I got in a cab, went to the neighborhood she told me to go to... and called her. She said she'd be right out to meet me at the market I was standing in front of.
As I waited in the rain, I couldn't but feel like I was in a real Korean drama.
Anyway, after 10 minutes she hadn't come out, so I called her... no answer. I sent her a text message, no reply. I waited a little longer. Called again, again, another text message. Finally, after 30 minutes of standing in the rain, I sent a final text message to her simply saying: "Okay, I'm going home now".
And I never heard from her again.
Now, I left out some details, mostly her mental issues and alcholism. I prefer to remember her in a more... I guess "sweet" way.
The point is, and this goes back to the post I made a few days or week ago: Don't get involved with these girls. I dated two of them, and it's 0/2.
Why even risk it, when there's so many non-pros out there who don't live the high-stress/low respect/whatever life of being a working girl?
Let's face it, isn't this just about sex? Or to be more specific, having great sex, like a GFE (though a lot of girlfriends won't toss your salad)?
We can have sex with them all we want, but for a relationship... no way.
I often think back to the way I approached the situation and cringe. The moment she told me she was with her ex-fiance I should've stopped talking to her. I was stupid and was still holding onto this irrational vision I had of her and I enjoying watermelon on a sunny Sunday afternoon while watching a lame comedy skit on TV.
If I'm ever put in this kind of situation again (which I highly doubt, because I will try to prevent myself from ever getting that way again), I'll have to take a strong stance and say:
"Look, I want to be with you. But I don't want you working here. I know it's what you do and I don't expect you to change that for me. But, if you think it'd be worth your while to leave so you can be with me, then I'm here for you."
If she is OK with it, then I guess I'd consider it! If not, I'd say goodbye, and let her live her life.
These things just don't work, and someone PM'ed me a few years ago and he'd been with his former working girl for five years (seven now if still together). So I guess in some rare cases it does... but hey, that's like having sex without a condom... you might not get AIDS, but doesn't mean you should go bare.
PS: The one thing that you also have to realize is that you'll probably always wonder what the true feelings are of these girls, especially with the things they say. Are they looking for more repeat business, or do you they really like you? So, they meet you outside of work... that must be proof that she's really into you, right? Or is that an "investment" of her time to trick you?
These are the things I would often think... No matter how much evidence pointed towards her truly liking me, it'd always be on the back of my mind.
I guess the ultimate detector is whether or not she's willing to leave her job to be with you and find a "normal" job.
...I apologize for some of the rambling, but spending most of my time in the US now, I haven't had much time to monger in Seoul. I still check back here once in a while just to see how things are going.
"Once a ho, always a ho"...(Snoop Dogg '94)
Keep that in mind gentlemen. No need to inflict pain on yourself. Just inflict it on them while screwing.
Dizz
I met her few weeks ago
Great.
Play Thing
05-22-06, 07:51
Old time poster here, left Korea about 2.5 years ago but coming back for a visit later this year. Thought I'd drop in to see what's the same, what's changed, and what my options are gonna be.
I spent most of my mongering in the hotel steam baths, a couple upper-scale barber shops and a few Itaewon trips. Reading recent posts, it looks like anmas are taking over the bulk of hottie opportunities and I haven't seen anything about steam baths/turkey baths, etc. Is this an accurate read of the current situation?
Yep, more than accurate.
In fact, nearly all RLDs are dead now, even barbershops.
If you know the scenes in Korea, stick to the Anma. At least, you are guaranteed to have a (decent) fuck. I heard another major break-down is scheduled on coming June, right after the general election. So, if possible, stay away from the famous anmas in KangNam area.
My adventure Saturday night echoes the advice from our savy members. If you want to get laid at a decent price and with decent service, go to the hill early and preferably not on the weekend. That being said, I had a helluva time that night. I don't normally venture into the hill area, but a comongerer and I had a few too many and were up to the challenge.
If you want the hotter ones, stick to the bottom to midsection of the hill. Mothers and grandmothers seem to occupy the upper eschelons of the hill. The makeup and the cover of night mask them from afar, but when you get close, you realize they should be paying you.
My buddy settled on a tall one with a nice natural C-cup. I tested out the goods before to reassure my buddy. He paid the standard 20K for ladydrink. She popped out the cans, and we squeezed away. She pulled us in for some milking, but I just wanted to watch. I wanted to build up the stockpile before I made my final lady selection. She demanded another drink, and he obliged. She sucked him off in front of me. Then, she got even more demanding, leaving him there with a woody. He eventually gave in and got the covered BJ. He tried to get her to bend over, but she wouldn't. He eventually shot on her chest. Overall, she was superhot but personality sucked. I don't what he paid for the final blow.
Some MPs were trying to get into the place while this was going on. They turn doorknobs and look in. They were in heavy patrol that night. Since we are GIs, I didn't give a shit.
We ended up in this other place later. He went with one, and I toured around. This was about 3 am. I ran into a girl I had about a month ago. She is also a natural C. Didn't remember me but said she did. I paid the 20K ladydrink and felt up the whole package. She asked if I wanted sex. I though I would get a little more from the already paid ladydrink, so I got her to suck on Henry for a little bit. This chick can really manipulate her tongue.
Here's the big difference between 8:30 Friday night and 3:00 Saturday night. She started at 300,000 for sex. I laughed and said no way. I paid 60,000 for a long BJ and tifuck the last time. She said 200,000. I said no and was getting up to leave. I have no problem jerking off at home for free. She countered with 100,00 for BJ only. I said no again. Haggling is not appealing to me, so I'm ready to go. She settled on the 60,000 because that's all I really had. She came back and sucked away. Not enthusiastic at all like before but it was late at night. I told her to get the condom on because I was ready to shoot in her mouth. I wanted to get her nice ass from behind. She slipped on the condom like a pro, and I bent her over. She had a perfect heart-shaped dumper. I knew I wouldn't last long, so I tried to distract myself by concentrating on making her feel good. As I pumped away, I reached around and played with her clit. I actually hear some genuine moans and she shuddered as I was multitasking. I came before I knew it, and she let me pumped away after I had already shot. None of the friendliness after the deed was dispensed like the last time. She is a hottie, but didn't get into it as before. I will go back but at an earlier time.
So, avoid the old hags at the top of the hill. Go early and not on the busy nights. There seemed to be more hotties than last time I was there.
Yep, more than accurate.
.... I heard another major break-down is scheduled on coming June, right after the general election. So, if possible, stay away from the famous anmas in KangNam area.
This is an interesting information.
Last weekend I was mongering in Miari again. Nothing special and not worth to do an extended report, but one thing I noticed:
I had two different girls in two different shops and several views.
In both shops I had my shots and as well during inspection of some girls, I made the following observations, which are now as you mention upcoming raids, more clear to me as a total picture:
1) Mama-sans have not necessarily be in front of their house as I have experienced before. Minimum 5 times I was guided some houses further, to the next alley, or around the corner.
2) The doors have been completely locked which was sometimes before too, but it seemed to need more time to open, as well as some unlocking from the inside after some knock sign. More locks? Double security, Don’t remember exactly. I will notice more precisely next time.
3) I notice now if I remember well, that I have been pushed in a little quicker in and there was the tendency to negotiate inside, which I did not like and I did not experience so before in Miari.
4) The curtain was closed right away after entrance and they led me more quickly to the backside. Ok that was always done rather quick, but I noticed a bit more hurry and pushy attitude.
5) When done in the first shop mama-san checked the outside about 30 seconds before letting me out. I asked: checked for police? She said yes. This is also a bit lol as there is a police station right at the end of the district sharing the backside of the police building with the RLD (police toilet view to the RLD houses LOL).
6) At my second girls house I noticed more caution as well. Was let out aside.
7) The house where should have been my favourite girl in service was closed. Strange as this seemed to be a more frequented place and the whole Miari seemed to be more busy then I experienced so fat (Saturday 22:00h). No glue why – already raided ore gave up – there was no sign the week before.
OK conclusion after reading Play Things post:
It seems they are already preparing or the raid is already going on ore expected very shortly- maybe even before the elections?
But one big question to the experts when the next crackdown period starts and you are in the middle of it:
How to tactically behave?
What to prepare?
What to say?
What not to say?
Everybody of course knows why we are here, but there should be some good legal advise, besides that you should not been caught with a dripping condom on your dick? But that’s why mama-sans prepare to make it more time consuming to enter the house – that there is time to get quickly dressed I guess? So how to behave?
Help us friends to prepare!
Regards
Brain666
Thunderbolt
05-23-06, 21:55
These maps are a couple years old so a few names have changed. They are copies of what US military police use to identify "off limits" locations.
Sector 1, which includes the official RedLight district designated by the red painted warning across the roadway, this is what is commonly known as Hooker Hill.
Sector 2, the area below the hill, is only a guarantee of blue balls and empty wallets.
Possessed Seoul
05-24-06, 07:20
They would have to be old, I see that Fantasy is not painted red. It'd surely be off limits now.
These maps are a couple years old so a few names have changed. They are copies of what US military police use to identify "off limits" locations.
Sector 1, which includes the official RedLight district designated by the red painted warning across the roadway, it what is commonly known as Hooker Hill.
Sector 2, the area below the hill, is only a guarantee of blue balls and empty wallets.
They would have to be old, I see that Fantasy is not painted red. It'd surely be off limits now.
Just checked the list dated May 1 and Fantasy isn't off limits. PM me if you want the link to check on a regular basis.
Possessed Seoul
05-24-06, 15:55
Just checked the list dated May 1 and Fantasy isn't off limits. PM me if you want the link to check on a regular basis.
Doesn't really matter as I'm not in the forces and my days of playing there are behind me for now. Cheers anyhow.
Thunderbolt
05-24-06, 19:01
This is the official US Forces Korea website which lists current "Off Limits" locations for US military personnel. Today, slide 3 of the link displays the Itaewon area. (Fantasy is not listed.) There is no map, just names of areas, bars, and clubs.
http://www.usfk.mil/usfk/index.html?/usfk/off-limits/contents.html
Hello all,
I’m a western guy currently in Seoul for work.
I’m really amazed about Korean women.
In Europe we have a lot of Chinese immigration and in the massage houses I have been it is difficult to find a nice girl.
I was thinking about Korean women as similar to Chinese but I was totally wrong.
They are taller and the look average is certainly very high, you Korean guys are lucky.
I have been trying to find 588 rld, walking around the Lotte Dept Store but I was not able to find it.
Can anybody give me detailed indication about how to get there?
Is it maybe closed (I have read something about that)?
If it is closed, is any other rld open?
Thanks
Before you get too excited (in a good or bad way), it's not what you think....well, sort of.
Ok, so it went down like this:
I had a little time earlier this week so decided it was time to renew my "friendship" with Miya. I stopped by in mid-afternoon around 3PM.
We chatted for a while: She's thinking about moving to Pyongtaek and setting up a "coffee shop" when the American military move down there. She doesn't understand why everyone asks her for blowjobs vice sex. Business hasn't been good; she went 3 days last week without a customer. Isn't the outfit she bought for her dog cute, etc.
After a few minutes of this we decided to move on to the deed and went across the alley to her apartment, her ever present mutt in tow.
We haven't hooked up in several months so it was a pretty good reunion with lots of making out and GFE action. Speaking of making out - a side note on Miya's attitude on anal. Her official position is that she doesn't do it. She is down for anal play though and wont complain about a finger or two up her ass when you're pounding her.
Ok, back to the action. So everthing is pretty standard; a good fairly deep BBBJ followed by sex. She didn't want to cover up for FS but I insisted, to her dismay. FS was energetic in about every position imaginable.
After about 40 minutes (20 fooling around, 10 oral, and 10 in-and-out), it's about time to finish so I flip her over for some hard doggy. I'm standing on the floor, she's laying with her chest on the bed and he ass in the air. I have a finger deep in her ass. Life is good.
Then Miya starts maoning like a banshee and her mutt starts going wild. He starts running in circles and yapping. Then, just as I getting ready to finish, I see him run over to my shoes and take a long, steaming [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on them!
It would have pissed me off (so to speak) but it struck me as the funniest thing in the world with me banging his "mom" doggy style :)
Goods: 45 minutes of great sex in a bed with an energetic partner.
The Price: 60,000W, and a walk home with a pair of uncomfortably wet shoes.
One thing I'll say with Miya. It's always memorable.
Have fun and be safe.
Korvet
Dear all,
Afetr 1 year and half I'm finally back to wonderful seoul.
The only bad news is that finkle is not more exsisting, or at least not in the same place. Reading the forum someone recently posted that is still there because passing nearby by the taxi saw some pink sign. I entered in that place, which is in the same block of the old good finkle (or pinkle.) but is a business club.
I asked several massage place in the district, I. E. Gangnam, but they all quoted around 200. 000 or 230. 000 kwn and I not insist anymore as with such amount and a bit of efforts you can get a cutie to your hotel for all night long.
It was the first nite, just arrived, so firstly I decide to go to yongsan rd but during the trip in the subway (I like it so much) I decided to go for a massage in a place I was in the past: sinchon the university district (take green line and exit a honghik university stop, not sinchon stop) wich is very nice and plenty of barber shop.
I was of course ready for a very good massage with HJ ending but when the same finished with my great surprise the lady (around a 7 of 10) took out all the clothes and a condom: cbj and covered fs on the barber table. Seoul is always a surprise.
This place is in the back entrance of seokio hotel: exit from that door and walk on the right for 60/90 meters: it 's the first pole.
Ps ciao Raimondo come va' (how are you)? Believe me I have been several times in seoul and korean girls are completely different by chinese (I go also in China for business): very very nice sweet and weel dreessed not like the italian ones which walk in steet quite naked but if you smile to them they send you affanculo.
Keep in touch
Ciao philonx
Sukhumvit Sam
05-26-06, 22:11
Hello all,
I’m a western guy currently in Seoul for work.
I’m really amazed about Korean women.
In Europe we have a lot of Chinese immigration and in the massage houses I have been it is difficult to find a nice girl.
I was thinking about Korean women as similar to Chinese but I was totally wrong.
They are taller and the look average is certainly very high, you Korean guys are lucky.
I have been trying to find 588 rld, walking around the Lotte Dept Store but I was not able to find it.
Can anybody give me detailed indication about how to get there?
Is it maybe closed (I have read something about that)?
If it is closed, is any other rld open?
ThanksDude,
These will be very crude but, I think, effective directions (though I've only been to 588 once in my life and that was about three years ago, I do remember it well):
Coming out of Cheongnyangni subway station, main exit, you'll find yourself right smack in the middle of a huge parking lot. Lots of busses there. The Lotte is up ahead some distance.
Instead of heading up toward the Lotte, hang DIRECTLY LEFT (facing forward from the subway exit).
Initially, this direction will look very umpromising. The main street, the Lotte, the lights and all the apparent action, are up directly ahead of you.
But forget all that. Keep heading leftward, down into a very dark, narrow, and squalid-looking alleyway.
This dark portal, which you should find dimly pink-lit at night, opens up into the world of 588, as though by some kind of through-the-looking-glass magic.
If not mistaken, I seem to recall that there's a small police station there, which might REALLY discourage you from continuing, but forget it: walk on by.
Just follow these very simple directions (if you're not going out there by subway, a cab will get you to the front of the station and you're set to go), and you should not be disappointed.
If somehow I've hallucinated all the above, which I really don't think I have, better directions from anyone else out there would be appreciated by our friend from Europe, and by others, I'm sure.
Sukhumvit Sam
Thank you Sam for the details, I'd try to following them.
If somebody else can provide additional information, it would be nice.
Since I have requested information, it is right to report. I don't expect to be helpful for expert Korean mongers, just saying my experience.
Yesterday I was not sure it was the rigth night to go mongering.
After an hard day of work, a good dinner, with 2 beers, and a couple of shots of scotch I was almost convinced to go back to my room, but finally I decided to continue my search for 588.
I walked around the Lotte Dept. Store area, asking taxy drivers where to find 588, but they did not speak english. Sometime they say 'yes', but they actually don't. Then the last one called somebody with the mobile phone and asked me to talk to him. I talked to this guy, I explained him I just wanted to go to 588 rld, he answered something I did not understand.
Well I finally I took this taxi, let’s see what happens.
He drove away from Lotte area, I thought he is taking me to an other rld, instead he started making phone calls while driving. I could listen the girls’ voices and understood he was saying where I am from. He had to do 3-4 calls, finally found a girl accepting.
I was finally convinced he was not taking me to any rld, I anyway asked ‘how much'. He wrote on a piece of paper 200. 000, I said ‘NO. He wrote 130. 000, but I did not actually mean to go for this, I just wanted to find 588, so I told him to turn back. The taxy run was 12. 000.
I kept walking and was approached by a guy trying to convince me to go to his bar: ‘Nice Korean ladies, 21yo, you drink, take the girl to your hotel’.
I said ‘how much’, he laughed and asked: ‘all night or 2 hours? ’. I said 2 hours. He said 300. 000. I said: ‘at my place I can make an all night (not true)’. He suddenly low to 200. 000, I was almost tempted, but passed.
While passing by his bar, I noticed was ‘karaoke’ writtenn outside.
Two guys were waiting with a car, asked if I need a car.
They were maybe waiting for mongers getting out of the bar with a girl, I cannot imagine how much money they could ask for a run.
I was also approached by an other guy asking me If I need a girl, but it was late and I went back to my hotel.
Hello all,
I have been trying to find 588 rld, walking around the Lotte Dept Store but I was not able to find it.
Can anybody give me detailed indication about how to get there?
Is it maybe closed (I have read something about that)?
If it is closed, is any other rld open?
Thanks
Hello Raimondo,
and thanks Sukhomvit Sam for a description.
I have another help for you:
Enclosed find a JPG from Seoul metropolitan Subway where I added the 588 area in a red square. Best is to take Subway (Line 1, Cheongnyangni) Exit 5 of and you are almost there.
Enjoy, but you might not be very sucessfull there or they will charge you a much higher price.
I made my best experience in Miari, where GFE is more then 50% standard.
The average girls might not look as good as in 588, but you can find also cuties there. It is just more difficult to judge, as they are in long dresses and are also experienced to hide 'not perfect bodystyles'. So more risky during your selection.
But what does it help if you see the absolute stunner in 588 and you as a westener have no chance to get her?
I propose you try both locations.
regards
Brain666
I made my best experience in Miari, where GFE is more then 50% standard.
The average girls might not look as good as in 588, but you can find also cuties there. It is just more difficult to judge, as they are in long dresses and are also experienced to hide 'not perfect bodystyles'. So more risky during your selection.Thank you also to you Brain.
I think the map will surely help.
So for a western guy you suggest Miari.
How do I get there, which is the closest subway station?
I think this information have been already posted, but in the past I have been concentrating mainly on 588 while reading and now It is not easy for me to use internet .
Thank you also to you Brain.
I think the map will surely help.
So for a western guy you suggest Miari.
How do I get there, which is the closest subway station?
I think this information have been already posted, but in the past I have been concentrating mainly on 588 while reading and now It is not easy for me to use internet .
Ok usually I should say RTFF, as I described it in an earlier Post. But now as I already did a map for 588, why not to make a map for the other RLD's as well.
So here is the collection:
Miari RLD:
Take the Line 4 to the north and exit the train at Gireum station. It is the 4th station after Dongdaemun.
Take exit 10 and the entrance to Miari RLD is right 10 m to the right behind the 'flying curtain'. The first shops might not take you and later the shops have locked doors and mama-san will ask if you want sex. Just explore the area. Don't worry. You will get laid. Don't let you hassle by the mama-sans. Take your time for selection. Price is a fixed rate of 70.000 Won. I rathar ask for more time (30 min instead of 15) (sam ship pun ok?), which is quite more sucessful then bargaining the price. The challange is to judge the girls body right. It can be hit (8-9) or so-so 6-7. So some risk of missjudge is there and the girls average looks (naked) is maybe less then in 588. But the damage of such a missjudge is much less then e.g. in an anma where such a fail is a real 200k damage.
My experience so far is that the girls in Miari are more service oriented in average then in the other RLD's. That's why I recently did not check the others again. But it might be time for an Update.
Yongsan RLD:
I usually take Subway Line 1 for yongsan. Line 1 stops in the Yongsan station. The RLD is right in front of the Station.
Line 4 to Sinyongsan is also ok. Recommend exit 3 or 4.
Please see a similar map for the yongsan RLD.
I had mixed experience there , but others had also good experience. Did not yet play the time card bargaining there.
Cheongnyangni = 588:
To have all maps in one report I add the 588 informarion here again.
Best is to take Subway (Line 1, Cheongnyangni) Exit 5. You will almost fall into the RLD. see the map.
I did not really see a westerner beeing laid there recently. We know it is difficult. So who takes the challange?
regards
Brain666
Song Seung Heon
05-27-06, 10:46
In my opinion, 588 is best overall place to get laid with prime korean hotties for a reasonable price. My advice is bang em while you can because the supplies won't last as they consider shutting the place down by next year. The directions as posted below is accurate. For 60-70k, you get a shot with any Korean Hottie of your choice. I've bang several 9's and one 10 on my trip there. The availabilitie of girls varies from time to time. I suggest to go late at night because of less buildup of car traffic which only heightens the emotional anxiety once walking through a RLD, and makes choosing alot easier. The nighttime girls are always the hottest, The substandard procedure is blowjob and bareback sex in the backrooms. My friend and I hooked up with several girls there, even making a a RLD girlfriend is possible, but not recommended. We need more reports on this particular interesting RLD before it shuts down, so share your expieriences to make our mongering adventures more exciting.
In my opinion, 588 is best overall place to get laid with prime korean hotties for a reasonable price. My advice is bang em while you can because the supplies won't last as they consider shutting the place down by next year. The directions as posted below is accurate. For 60-70k, you get a shot with any Korean Hottie of your choice. I've bang several 9's and one 10 on my trip there. The availabilitie of girls varies from time to time. I suggest to go late at night because of less buildup of car traffic which only heightens the emotional anxiety once walking through a RLD, and makes choosing alot easier. The nighttime girls are always the hottest, The substandard procedure is blowjob and bareback sex in the backrooms. My friend and I hooked up with several girls there, even making a a RLD girlfriend is possible, but not recommended. We need more reports on this particular interesting RLD before it shuts down, so share your expieriences to make our mongering adventures more exciting.
Kimchi Man, you are really funny!
All your reports look rather similar. Talking about the hotties, talking about the bareback option (!?!).
However please consider from time to time that probably about 80-90% the readers of this board are foreigners who are not easily taken from the girls at 588. So whatever you would like to have on report, I guess you need to come here and report yourself as our access to the girls is rather limited.
So unfortunately (?) your advise is not an option for us, to chose the best time and focus on the stunner of the stunners to get her for an extended GFE type bareback session with real girlfriend option for the local rate of 6-7 kW.
However you could do us a favor. Whenever you will go next, talk to the girls about the extremely nice foreign comunity here who would do all the best to provide this girls their best ever BFE (Boyfriend experience), best overall attitude and are equipped with western sized totaly satisfying tools whith best operational skills.
So if you do well, we might get a chance next time.
regards
Brain666
Skihuff213
05-28-06, 02:00
Hi guys,
Thank you for reading my post again, it has been a while since I post anything. Anyway this might be off topic but I just came back from QingDao and Weihai and let me tell you, it was very very fun! First of all the selections are a lot more than here, Second, they are very friendly and eager to please you, third, the price is a lot cheaper than korea. (for 600RMB to 800RMB (1US=8.0RMB) the girls will spend the whole night with you until 6am and you can do as many times as you want). I was going to post the names of the places you guys can go but after reading the QingDao board all the info are there! I would suggest KTVs and if you have a chinese friend that will be better for them to take you there, or if you are going with a Korean speaking friend check out the Korean Clubs, they are fun too! One thing to keep in mind is that always ask the cost before you go into any rooms, especially if you are going by yourself! Don’t get rip off!
Maybe some of you guys already understood the reason why I was not able to find the 588 district.
Shame on me, but I have been walking around the wrong Lotte Dept. Store for 2 nights.
Since it is in my hotel area (downtown Seoul) , I saw it and thought it was the right place, without even considering the chance there could be an other one (I was not aware about the name of my hotel subway station).
Anyway yesterday, thank to your information, I went to 588, extremely easy to find once you take the correct exit and, of course, correct subway station.
It was 11Pm more or less.
I was there just to explore and this is what I found :
Majority, I’d say 60%, of the windows were with light off.
Out of the remaning, 50% were with no girls, I don’t know whether they were working inside or just temporarly moved to other windows to chat with other girls
I’d say there were 15-20 girls around
When I start walking after a few meters I passed by a couple of windows with girls, they suddenly closed the window when I was passing by.
I thought “sh…I can understand you don’t want to meet a western guy, but do not tell me that way…..”
I kept on walking.
I never been in a Seoul RLD before, I cannot make comparison but the girls were mostly beautiful, tall and with nice face and body. Some of them too slim for my taste, but I’d say, IMHO, a 7.5 grade average, with some really stunner (9).
When I passed by the windows most of them just didn’t look at me. But 3/4 called me.
I approached and tried to talk english but they did not. I could have entered and try to understand each other in some way (of course I don’t know one single Korean word) but I remembered what Brain said about the chance they could overrate me and I don’t usually like to play a game when the rules are not clear, so I passed. I don’t even know how much they could ask.
I was a little bit surprised about these 3/4 , since I was expecting nobody would call me. Maybe some other western guys knowing, for these situations, basic Korean words, may want to try.
Just a few cars around, just a few mongers walking together with a couple of drunken guys. That was the, a little bit depressing, scenario.
As far as I understood, in Miari the situation about rate should be clear (70k for everybody Korean or not), so the language barrier shoul not be an ostacle.
One of the next nights I’d go there and let you know.
When back to the hotel I was approached by a lady, not very tall, I’d 1.60, face not too bad, I’d say 35 yo and a 6.5 rate. She asked me 200k for long time in my hotel.
I could bargain because she asked me whether it was too much, but I declined since in my hotel there are still too many my collegues around.
Maybe in the next days the situation will change.
Regards
So guys time to report about last Sunday. I had a couple of small electronics stuff to buy in the electronics malls of Yongsan and coming with Subway line 1 as usual, after my shopping and market exploration I needed to check the Yongsan RLD’s girl quality. Can’t leave Yongsan without such a check, even if last time it was almost dead.
I was heading the Yongsan RLD at about 17:30h at this Sunday for an alley check and expected a dead RLD. However to my surprise it was not. Several girls were on service and the average quality was better then during my last walk through some weeks ago.
So started to do a closer check and my dick also showed demand.
Walking through the alleys, declining several offers (‘will come back later’) I suddenly saw her: A stunner in Yongsan, like the ones you see more often in 588. Beautiful slightly brown body (solarium?) very slim, but not to skinny, nice face, so to say she was a dream Girl. Rating 9+ in our scale.
I started my Miari negotiation (30 minutes). She declined and offered 20 min. 80kW and offered 40 min. for 120 kW. Didn’t seem to be in negotiation. I guess she knows her value.
As my experience is that such stunners potentially might not provide the best service and then logically the 80kW would be kind of test ride investment. However logic is one thing, but when you look at this beautiful body a 50% surcharge for the double time also sounds not so bad in case you are lucky. In front of that stunner, I decided to take the risk and went for the 120K 40 min course.
Inside I was guided to her room. Quite nice decoration, double bed and very good, 3 walls around the bed ‘wallpapered’ with mirrors. She came in and asked me to take off. I heard her going to the bathroom hearing the water washing action. When coming in again, she was interrupted by a phone call taking almost 3-5 minutes. I was thinking, if she might forget this adding to the time later. When she came back she said sorry.
She undressed. The naked body was still beautiful from the near. The breast however much smaller (half fill of an A-Cup) and not really perfect to her body: Total Rating now 9- from 9+ before, due to breast deduction. (I don’t mind so much small breasts, for others it might be a turn down and then deduction higher).
She started cleaning my dick and my front side with whet towels. Then she started kissing my breast, went down to my dick, kissed him shortly and then proceeded to cover him with a condom. So no BBBJ as I hoped. I indicated to do without, but she declined. It took her almost 2 minutes to put the condom on (not a big sized one), very carefully to have everything really 100% covered ‘to the bottom’.
CBJ followed which was ok by CBJ standard (Rating 7/10 CBJ scale) but not really that great (anyhow CBJ can never beat BBBJ if you are used to this). She then started to proceed putting my dick in riding me, but she looked a bit afraid, saying big (guys again- I have no horse cock). She stopped putting it in and added 2 times more fluid/ cream. Then she slowly sat on me carefully guided it in, in 2 steps. Finally done, she looked really ‘filled’. Started riding me. Basically she had a more tight pussy, but due to so much lubrication used + a obviously thicker type of condom (the opposite of a thin and sensual), I did not feel that great as I expected, but still ok.
After riding me she came down and we continued ‘I down she above’. This position was great, as I could watch my dick in the mirrors going in and out her pussy, surrounded by a beautiful styled ass. Much different view then from doggy. She also watched this and again said ‘ big’ seeing this.
Then we continued missionary. I sucked the ½ A-cup breast, she allowed, but as expected no DFK (also not kissing at all) and I didn’t even try DATY. She always wanted to put in my dick herself, never let me do it. Seemed she didn’t like me to touch her pussy. We changed several times the positions and she many timed added lubrication.
She was able to use her pussy mussles squezing my dick, which was very nice.
It seemed she tried to make me come more quickly, but due to so much lubrication it was impossible for me to come. Dick was ok, but no coming. It seemed that she had a problem with the size, so she started to ask finish. I mentioned the time, she indicated a time on the clock, which was only 30 min., I said no, indicated the start and then she agreed to almost 40 min for stop action.
She tried to avoid fucking again, indicating pain, but I asked to continue. Finally due to the debate and the lubrication I could not come (even if it was so nice watching me in the mirror), so I gave up. She quickly threw over her house dress (not the stunner clothing).
When I finished putting my clothes on, she still was in her house dress, another girl was in the window. Looked like she was taking a rest to ‘cool down’ recreate her pussy. (Actually it was a lot of fucking in total – maybe almost 30 of the 40 min, so maybe she is used to have 5 min fuck rounds). I think she needed a rest and it could be to her excuse that she really felled a bit pain caused by my dick.
Overall judgement:
Yes it was nice to have a stunner this time. Body rating: 9-
Performance: overall 7. Sex was a little bit too much on the mechanic side as I am used to now from Miari. No BBBJ, No DATY, No Kissing.
The positive was to have the mirror view as it shows more what kind of nice body I am fucking during action. The other positive was her ability to contract her pussy mussles, which was apretty good feel, but didn't help with so much librication.
Damage of totally 120k is overall too much (ok I could have had the stunner feel for 80kW)
Conclusion:
Others might think different, but for me overall, the advantage of stunner body overall does not substitute missing passion and action. So I might be happy continuing with my Miari Girls, mostly not the stunners, but mostly having better action.
How to find the best combination?? I will continue searching.
Regards
Brain666
This is the continuation of my last weeks Sunday activities after Fucking the ‘stunner girl’ in Yongsan.
After I couldn’t come with the stunner in Yongsan I directly entered the Subway line 4 at Sinyongsan Station (next to the RLD) to Miari (Gireum Station), which is 12 subway stops to go.
Entered Miari and walking through the alleys. In the first shops, the girls were just preparing for the evening – breakfast time, tooth brush, make up etc. Funny to see.
Some shops were already in operation.
I walked thruh and was guided by one mama-san around some corner. Inside waqs a girl, with an ok Face smiling, and ok arms which I use as an indication for judgement of the body below.
I rated ok and went for it after agreeing the 30 min. (sam-ship pun ok?).
Went to the room, paid and the girl came in with wet towels.
I put off and laid naked on the bed awaiting the dick cleaning process. She then put off and:
Shocked!!!!!! :eek: Shocked!!!!!! :eek: Shocked!!!!!! :eek: Shocked!!!!!!
I completely failed to rate her body. Never happened to me yet so bad (ok I had some not so good judgements before as well). Rating about 4-5 I body.
Breasts so so (6-7), but love handles, some operation, overall to fat and ugly around the lower essential parts.
Raimondo will hate me if he follows my recommendation for Miari and gets such a girl, and of course Kimchi Man will tell me that he always said that 588 girls are the ones to go.
So shame on me guys. This failure can happen in Miari.
I was so sure and proud of myself that I am rather good in Miari girl judgement. And now that. My self confidence :( is gone! Need some time to recover that. ‘Cryyyyyyyyy’
Miari visitors: Choose your girls wisely!!!!!
Ok I proceeded to fuck this girl. (I don’t remember when ever last I have fucked a 4-5 scale girl – did I ever??). Of course there was not so much motivation on my side. So no way to come, even I concentrated to think on other girls. In addition after about 15 minutes she started to rush me and shortly later bitching about the time (as far as I could understand)
Even if we have agreed 30 min.
Ok in this case easy to give up.
Damage = 70kW (this damage war really total)
Regards, a dissapointed :confused:
Brain666
This is the last part of my last Sunday’s adventures.
After that last experience I completely demoralized continued to head through the alleys.
Went to the house where I had my best experience so far. Yes they have been in Operation. Asked for my girl (we had already 2 sessions). Yes she was available.
Ok, long story short, this Sunday I finally got satisfied. As she was accommodating as always, nice behave, likes kissing, does not lubricate her pussy, seems to enjoy my dick inside her.
I felt coming home. Great feel again, the BBBJ, the Fucking. My dick was back on action, after 10 minutes of playing and another 10 minutes of fucking I was coming in a huge explosion.
Great. This Time
Investment: 70kW (for 30 min) –
Return of Investment due through fun 70 kW
Damage: 0
Btw: when I left the room, 2 guys (non Koreans) with 2 girls came out of another room. Wonder if they had an orgy there.
I might try a double girl feature next time which they offered me once.
Anyhow, :cool: my spirit is back :cool:
regards
Brain666
One Wing Low
05-31-06, 08:18
I tried the Yongsan RLD. OMG! Even in the daytime there are many stunners. The girls are beautiful, friendly and well-mannered, unlike Thai, Viet, Malay, Indonesian or Chinese.
Korean girls are my favorite Asian partners. Cant wait to go back.
Miari RLD:
Take the Line 4 to the north and exit the train at Gireum station. It is the 4th station after Dongdaemun.
Take exit 10 and the entrance to Miari RLD is right 10 m to the right behind the 'flying curtain'. The first shops might not take you and later the shops have locked doors and mama-san will ask if you want sex. Just explore the area. Don't worry. You will get laid. Don't let you hassle by the mama-sans. Take your time for selection. Price is a fixed rate of 70.000 Won. I rathar ask for more time (30 min instead of 15) (sam ship pun ok?), which is quite more sucessful then bargaining the price. The challange is to judge the girls body right. It can be hit (8-9) or so-so 6-7. So some risk of missjudge is there and the girls average looks (naked) is maybe less then in 588. But the damage of such a missjudge is much less then e.g. in an anma where such a fail is a real 200k damage.
My experience so far is that the girls in Miari are more service oriented in average then in the other RLD's. That's why I recently did not check the others again. But it might be time for an Update.
Yongsan RLD:
I usually take Subway Line 1 for yongsan. Line 1 stops in the Yongsan station. The RLD is right in front of the Station.
Line 4 to Sinyongsan is also ok. Recommend exit 3 or 4.
Please see a similar map for the yongsan RLD.
I had mixed experience there , but others had also good experience. Did not yet play the time card bargaining there.
Cheongnyangni = 588:
To have all maps in one report I add the 588 informarion here again.
Best is to take Subway (Line 1, Cheongnyangni) Exit 5. You will almost fall into the RLD. see the map.
I did not really see a westerner beeing laid there recently. We know it is difficult. So who takes the challange?
regards
Brain666
So guys,
want to let you know that I will be off from mongering for the whole June, as my wife is heading to Seoul now.
No condolences required, I will not be suffering. She will keep my balls rather empty. Have a good and enjoyable sexlife with her.
I will follow this forum of course and comment when possible. Please issue reports of all your activities. Somebody needs to keep my girls in Miari busy so that the pussies don't dry up. So don't forget them!
Hopefully no new crack downs happen in the meantime.
regards
Brain666
After a brief tour of China and Macau, I stopped by Seoul for a week (last week). I am ethnically Korean, but really speak the language barely enough to get by (order at restaurants, elementary level converstaion - not enough to flirt or make jokes). I don't come to Korea very often, but this was not my first time here. Also, the group part of the experience below was with locals. Anyway, that is the intro for whoever finds it helpful.
My friends and I met at Hotel Prima, downstairs basement which has a RS. Now as many of you know, many RS now don't offer FS. But with some asking, the person booking us ok'd it for our group. I think basically they only bring in the girls that agree to go upstairs, thus overall limiting the numbers in the lineup. This is still a pleasant surprise find! I picked up Ms. Lee as my date for the evening, had a great time playing drinking games and getting pretty much plastered and making a fool of ourselves (including the girls - if anyone is interested, there is a great drinking game that entails guessing people's underwear color andremoving articles of clothing, but details for another time). Great time overall already, and the girls were sooooooo cute/hot! As opposed to other times, I just went for the best face/breast size combination. The overall price was USD 1200 for 4 people, plus tip for the girls and cost of hotel room. I think this is about the going rate for this kind of joint, and to experience all different features of mongering, I really enjoy this as much as the BBS and Anma's!
Upstairs, she wanted to cuddle for about 10 minutes before showering. I asked if she carried more than one condom, and luckily she had 3 (unluckily I usually only need 2 :( ) Shower, BBJ, spooning while playing with her natural c-cup was absolutely great. And because I was drunk, this went on long enough for her to ask to rest, more BBJ, mish, doggy... great fun for all, and I'm pretty sure she was into the whole thing too. Most times, despite the cost, they want to leave shortly after, but we sat and talked before round two. And when she did leave, she asked twice to call her. More on this later.
Face: 9
Body: 9
Attitude: 10
Cost: US$ 300 (in addition to above cost)
Emotional Cost: unmeasurable (see further details)
I think the educational part of the post really is that there is one more RS with full service, but the other is again that being a gentleman and fun can lead to better all around service.
My armor was on (so as not to like this girl beyond the P4P) when I called her the next day.
So I called her the next day for coffee in the afternoon. We ended up hanging out for an early dinner and she had to go back to work!! Too bad, I thought there would be a repeat session, but didn't factor in her schedule.
She called me twice from work, and we arranged to meet later that evening. If there is such a thing, I really started to dig this girl in less than 24 hours! I think the absolute cute type that turns into a minx in the bedroom, kind of model-like look but yet pretty submissive (coffee, sure; dinner, sure; I like something, yes she likes the same; etc.) really is a turn on.
I can hear all the groans on the board already about her just wanting $$, but I really think she is too young (23 yo), too convincing during conversations, too sincere all around. I'm in my 30's and haven't really felt this puppy sensation in a long long time. To make a long story short, she came over that evening for another all-night round, this time at my hotel (which I think is unusual for RS girls), and for the next 2 nights until I left. She called several times during the day, and I have since called her from the US. My mobile in ROK was a rental from the airport, so no chance for her to hang onto that number even if she wanted.
The bottom line, though, is that only after a few days, I WANT to call her, and am trying to work around getting back to Korea. Pretty bad, even in the setting where I know the line of work she is in. After the first night where I paid the house, I only paid for the incidentals (room service, taxi fare, etc), and didn't really tip her. I gave her $300 almost as a present that I couldn't actually go out and buy something more meaningful... tacky I know but probably more practical.
These stories abound. And I'm only a few days into this mistake, but I'm sure, as many of you probably are, that I will barrel down this road until someone gets hurt.
-M
Big Kahuna
06-03-06, 00:52
I went by Venus Anma last nite and had a girl that at least was willing to take a finger up her ass.
Body was kind of skinny, face was about a 7, tan body or it seemed. Doesnt speak any english at all. All conversation was in Korean.
I was able to get my finger up her ass while she was giving me a BBBJ.
As you well know YMMV with any girl.
She only works the weekends or thats what she says.
Other than that it was a typical Anma experience.
BK
Manfest,
Search through the thread for Byung's posts about his relationships with working girls. They are very informative and so very true.
Since you were passing through Asia, you must have noticed the superficiality of people around this area. Especially in Korea, where sincerity is only skin deep. Never, ever underestimate a K-girl. They are so much more emotionally stronger and controlled than us horny bastards. They're masters of manipulation. They'd have to be in this country where the only place of dominance maybe with your mind and perhaps bedroom. In the real world, women are always in a subordinate position here.
Basically, don't f-up your life in you homeland for this girl, especially a working girl. Think it through man.
Anybody have any stories? I have an opportunity to get together with a married chick but have been hesitant. Thx
Anybody have any stories? I have an opportunity to get together with a married chick but have been hesitant. Thx
It might be very difficult to generalize with no other information..
You should tell us more about you (are you married as well, are you living here, frequent visitor etc.) and how you met her and what happened so far. Ages and age differences. How long is she married, does she have kids etc.
What is your intention in this potential relationship? Girlfriend, economic pussy utilization etc.?
With more information it could be potentially better to give advise.
regards
Brain666
Anybody have any stories? I have an opportunity to get together with a married chick but have been hesitant. Thx
Keep in mind adultery is illegal in Korea and this can mean jail time.
Song Seung Heon
06-04-06, 07:00
If your willing to pay for pussy, choose selectively and go for the stunners, girls you won't have a chance with given in a life time. Why settle for the rest when you can have the best. There are many Korean stunners in the designated Red Light Districts such as 588 (Cheongyangri).
Manfest,
Before we get caught up with one of these chicks, all should read a book called Private Dancer, by Stephen Leather. Looks at a relationships between a working girl and john in Thailand.
Thing I found fascinating was it gave multiple points of view. John, john's friends, hooker, hooker's friends, etc.
Available at Amazon for 11 bucks or so. I found a copy on my Thailand Trip in April. Listed as fiction, but too real to be totally made up. I recognized a lot of stuff in that book. Has made me think twice.
Not about mongering, but about how to view the relationship as strictly business.
Lot of folks have been down the road you're going and it rarely ends well.
The book will never make the Times Best Seller list, but a decent read.
Song Seung Heon
06-04-06, 15:01
Gascan,
Do not compare working girls in Thailand to working girls in South Korea. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Korean women are undoubtedly the heavyweight champions in terms in looks and fashion compared to third world ugly SE girls. I will take a hot Korean women over SE pussy any day. In terms of relationship with working girls, yet its possible, yet there need to be far more a personal connection beyond a business transaction.
Song Seung Heon
06-04-06, 15:08
I need to know whats currently going on there? 588 is one of my favorite RLD's to go HO shopping. Last time I was there was around Mid-March, 1/3 of stores open with not much girls, but still plenty to choose from. This place is the most potential with smoking hot working girls awaiting fucking. I will be back in what time will tell, Korean pussy will always be on my mind.
Happy Guru
06-04-06, 16:01
O.k. It's been a while since i contributed to the site. My last report was on the "BJ" hotel which I found in Gangnam way back in January. I can't believe no one found that funny.
Anyway, Kimchi Man, no one would argue with you that Korean girls are hot, but let's face it, to each his own. You can't tell me that some Vietnamese girls can't compete with Korean chics. Tanned skin, exotic faces, beautiful attire, etc..Each culture has their own attributes which they can be proud of, and, let's face it, Asian girls in general are cutting boards (flat chested) but they have those other physical aspects which make them so beautiful and enticing.
By the way, i don't know if some of you agree or not, but I think a lot of Korean girls have beautiful faces, but DAMN some of them have crooked legs or just walk funny. Just a thought.
Now, for the juice.
Just came back from an RLD trek at Yongsan. Went there around 9: 00pm. Checked out the be rows and not much happening. Maybe 5 girls working on the South side, I mean the side closest to the busy road, not the EMART or IMart road. Anyway, needed to get laid cuz I just broke up with my Korean GF of 3 years a couple of weeks ago. So, my balls were itching for action and the purple soldier needed vengeance. I picked one girl who quoted the usual 70 k for 20 minutes. Tried to bargain but the ***** wouldn't budge. So, we go inside, the regular wash, and right away she covers my cock with a condom. Yep, CBJ. I couldn't believe it. Never happened to me before in all the years I've been here. As I was doing her missionary she sort of had a look of disgust on her face, so I thought "screw this", told her to turn over for doggy. She wouldn't budge. I insisted and felt like a Korean guy who has to demand something from his wie. Gees. What a shit experience. She even turned off the light before we went in to doggy. WHAT the fuck was that all about? .
Anyway, I guess a bad one this time. Not much to choose from this night. I got the bitchy one I guess. Tough luck.
The Guru
Song Seung Heon
06-05-06, 05:50
Man, I need puss. Its been a while since coming back from Korea, just can't get those stunners out of my head. Can't wait to go back for more action.
....
Just came back from an RLD trek at Yongsan. Went there around 9: 00pm. Checked out the be rows and not much happening. Maybe 5 girls working on the South side, I mean the side closest to the busy road, not the EMART or IMart road. Anyway, needed to get laid cuz I just broke up with my Korean GF of 3 years a couple of weeks ago. So, my balls were itching for action and the purple soldier needed vengeance. I picked one girl who quoted the usual 70 k for 20 minutes. Tried to bargain but the ***** wouldn't budge. So, we go inside, the regular wash, and right away she covers my cock with a condom. Yep, CBJ. I couldn't believe it. Never happened to me before in all the years I've been here. As I was doing her missionary she sort of had a look of disgust on her face, so I thought "screw this", told her to turn over for doggy. She wouldn't budge. I insisted and felt like a Korean guy who has to demand something from his wie. Gees. What a shit experience. She even turned off the light before we went in to doggy. WHAT the fuck was that all about? .
Anyway, I guess a bad one this time. Not much to choose from this night. I got the bitchy one I guess. Tough luck.
The Guru
This was rather bas luck, so to say. Last week I had a so called stunner there and even if I was not so satisfied as I expected, but it was much better then what you report. (see my previous post about 1 week ago.)
If you need more 'hospitality' and for sure BBBJ, you should once try Miari, which is my favourite RLD now.
You have a higher risk with the girls choice, as you can't see the real figure before. So far I have been mostly ok except for one real turn down. (see last weeks report as well).
You further have to deal with the sometimes pushy mama-sans and you need to stand over it. Nothing for the shy ones. But if you are a bit used to it, its easy to deal with it. Anyhow, Miari is in my opinion still the better value for money. Instead of negotiating price I always ask and get 30 min. sessions there.
regards
Brain666
It's not bad luck; Yongsan is just not as good as it used to be. A few (5-6)average-looking girls in the South row, not worth 70k. The service is rather average, too.
Gascan,
Do not compare working girls in Thailand to working girls in South Korea. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Korean women are undoubtedly the heavyweight champions in terms in looks and fashion compared to third world ugly SE girls. I will take a hot Korean women over SE pussy any day. In terms of relationship with working girls, yet its possible, yet there need to be far more a personal connection beyond a business transaction.
Kimchi Man,
Korean women can't touch Thai women in terms of natural beauty. Remember, damn near 70-80 percent of Korean women have had some sort of facial surgery or are thinking about it. If Philippine women had the money to waste on surgery, you surely would see a lot more stunners in that country as well. And attitude? Shit man, Korean women are becoming just like western women with that Princess Disease thing they have going on. Fashion...yeah ok. Looks...yeah, but plastic...GFE...Hell no...more a pain in the ass then anything else...sex, yes but mechanical from most providers. If your into catering to a women most of the time, stick with Korean women. If you want a women who know's how to cater to her man, go Thai or Filipna. IMHO that is.
Yella Man
Thai women are very beautiful! In terms of attitude, friendliness and fun in the sack they cant be beat. Also consider you can take a TG longtime for the same price as a BJ on the hill. Given that I will see you all at the Bier Garten on Soi 7!
Cheers
RM
BTW If you are lost find this sign and all will be well!
Gascan,
Do not compare working girls in Thailand to working girls in South Korea. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Korean women are undoubtedly the heavyweight champions in terms in looks and fashion compared to third world ugly SE girls. I will take a hot Korean women over SE pussy any day. In terms of relationship with working girls, yet its possible, yet there need to be far more a personal connection beyond a business transaction.
Kimchi Man,
You're missing the point. Not comparing Korean to Thai although I am a fan of both.
The point is, a hooker is a hooker and the transaction is ultimately business. Bunch of guys think they fall in love and want to take the girl out of her current environment.
Personally think it's a big mistake to think you are going to somehow save the girl, when the reality is, she will string you along to get every dime. Mofaka hit that nail on the head. There is always an ulterior motive.
I know it is possible to have feelings, especially if you have a regular, but when you start thinking you're in love, and that your hooker is different than the other 10,000 hookers in Korea, it's probably time to back off and re assess.
I've had several girls who I would consider regulars over the past few years. I'd buy them small presents, call or PM once in a while. Hell, even got a few freebies out of the deal. Also "clicked" with gals in Thailand. Think we all occasionaly experience a mutual attraction.
But no way would I start a relationship with one.
Manfest is sitting at home, pining away for his 23 year old beauty, scheming on how to get back to Korea to spend more time with her. Even though he KNOWS she sells pussy for a living. Not healthy. It's fine to lust, but there are enough stories about these relationships going bad to where we all know it's a bad idea.
I think there are many ways to look at my mixed feelings. The first and most optimistic view is that wether this is a good or bad thing (and I understand that any reasonable person would agree this is on the bad end of the spectrum), that life should be lived to the fullest. And that any action taken out of lust, love, hate, malice, or whatever, should still be pursued with some reckless abandon. That way you don't have to look back and wonder what could have been. I am in lust, no question about it. My very warm feelings towards my temporary girlfriend is based on the difference from "real" girlfriends that don't give me any anal rimming or any such wonderful things!! She is PAID to behave in a manner that I like, and perhaps she will act in a different manner to your liking with you... Nevertheless, I can delude myself into thinking nice warm thoughts and hopefully still avoid getting hurt later.
I completely agree with you that the second I start to get jealous, or seriously think about her "job", that I will be in trouble. My understanding is that the majority of guys want to sit with her, and once every 2 weeks someone wants to pay the extra for FS. Share and share alike, and no bad feelings for now.
Still, no question that I will pine away and call her, make my way back to ROK and call her again. Men are so obvious, and my sex drive is seriously in control. IMHO
M
Song Seung Heon
06-06-06, 10:19
To Brain666,
You sure you got a stunner at Yongsan? In the alleys? I've yet yet to see few stunners working in the A-row in Yongsan.If she cannot make it in the A row, no chances of being a stunner. In my opinion, the real stunners work at 588 ( Cheongyangri), this place has some mighty competition to be the stunnest out of the stunners. One thing I don't like about once getting to 588 is the haggling of the ajjummas who come up to asking if you need a girl, but once you get passed that, ultimate eye candy awaiting your every fantasy and desires.
Fast Eddie 48
06-06-06, 22:15
Gascan,
Do not compare working girls in Thailand to working girls in South Korea. Its like comparing apples and oranges. Korean women are undoubtedly the heavyweight champions in terms in looks and fashion compared to third world ugly SE girls. I will take a hot Korean women over SE pussy any day. In terms of relationship with working girls, yet its possible, yet there need to be far more a personal connection beyond a business transaction.
to kimchi
I disagree some people like thai girl than korea girl it depend on their taste ,
some like white meat and some like dark meat , I like both i agree 588 have
the best girl but with bad attuide and service is too rush and mamasan are
very rusher don't like to deal with them and I think thai or chinese girl is more
girl friendly than korean p4p.
just my imho
fast eddie 48
I’m back to my place and I’d like to thank all of you (of course in particoular Brain) who provided information for my Seoul by night experiences.
I’ll keep on reading this forum and try to give my opinion even if abroad.
I had nice time in Seoul and I found Korean people to be very nice.
I don't know why but I was not imagining that.
My reports of last nights follow.
YONGSAN
Went there about 10PM, more or less same situation of 588.
Just a few gilrs smiled at me. Some of them even misrecognized me as Korean (I can look like if not close). When they realized I was not, they stopped smiling.
Girls look average below 588.
MIARI (I finally got laid)
Went there pretty early (7pm).
Just a few windows open with 2-4 girls inside.
The mamasans pressed me to get in. I realised that in some of the windows looking closed, were also girls getting prepared for the night.
I checked 3-4 places, some girls did not smile, others did. But the feeling I suddenly had was that in this place the girls would accept foreigners more easily than in others (maybe just because of the presence of mamasan)
Anyway I was in hurry, I did not want to go back to the hotel late, since had to leave early the day after.
I finally stopped by a place with only one girl inside. Nice smile and I finally decided to go for her even though I realized that she was not the model type (no nudity shown here).
I went upstairs in a very tiny room, just one place bed in it, not even a chair, I could hardly stand beside the bed.
She asked me to undress and left, I put my clothes on a corner of the bed. It was very hot, even if a fan was on.
She came back with some tissues (no towels) and started with a very long cleaning action.
As I supected she was a litlle bit overweighted, but nice smile and tits.
She started with a pretty good BBBJ, after a couple of mins I asked her to cover, she did it and I asked her to continue with CBJ.
She refused, maybe because of the gel on the condom.
So we started fs, first cow and then missionary.
She had a pretty good attitudine, smiling, moaning and light kisses (no dfk) during the action. I finished missionary.
These are my votes, about this experience.
GIRL
Face 7.5
Body 6.5
GFE : 7.5
Tecnique : 7
LOCATION : 3
So apart from location a pretty good experience and pretty exciting for me to monger in so different country.
And, if I’ll have the chance again to be in Seoul, I think I’ll head to Miari first, even if you have to interact with the pretty aggressive mamasans.
To Brain666,
You sure you got a stunner at Yongsan? In the alleys? I've yet yet to see few stunners working in the A-row in Yongsan.If she cannot make it in the A row, no chances of being a stunner. In my opinion, the real stunners work at 588 ( Cheongyangri), this place has some mighty competition to be the stunnest out of the stunners. One thing I don't like about once getting to 588 is the haggling of the ajjummas who come up to asking if you need a girl, but once you get passed that, ultimate eye candy awaiting your every fantasy and desires.
Yes I got. Of course there can be an endless debate from which looks we are talking about stunners here. But the girl in the alleys (it was the alley 'far right' behind the A-row, if your viewpoint is from the stairways out of Yongsan station) was clearly a stunner in terms of 588 stunner definition and even better as the A-row girls in Yongsan at this time.
It was to my surprise as well to find her there, as my last Yongsan walk through's didn't show any atractive scenery incl. the A-Row.
It is really unpredictable in Yongsan. I had unexpected at a Sunday afternoon a rather good quality, while also at Friday and Saturday night a bad selection.
e.g. yesterday in the same or next glas house during a walk through while waiting for 'Mission impossible 3', there was a girl not so bad, but not as my stunner before. A-Row and B-alleys have been rather occupied but no stunner density. So it seemes I was just lucky to be at the right time at the right place to catch the stunners optics I had. And as I reported, after my session she stayed in her housedress and not the stunner dress while I don't know if this was because of my 'big sized treatmenmt' or because she ended her 'shift' as another girl was in the window. Could be the same as I saw yesterday , but I don't remember well.
I agree that the stunner density in 588 is signifficantly higher, but what does it help with their tendency to ignore the foreighners. But things might be in change there now as others reported.
However still I am more satisfied with a non Stunner (but close) Miari girl by clearly better overall enjoyable GFE like performence with the double time I get, since I bargain this easily. For that I accept some (limited!) discount in looks. My tounge and soul also needs to be satisfied.
regards
Brain666
Waykook Saram
06-08-06, 01:34
Anybody have any stories? I have an opportunity to get together with a married chick but have been hesitant. ThxWoldcup1,
Most married women who would consider meeting a man are looking for a boyfriend only. They do not want a divorce just some attention and/or revenge for their cheating husband. Last year there was a survey of married women in their 30's and 40's and more than half had or wanted a bf.
This has been my experience with several women and many conversations in booking bars.
Have fun!
Number Slevin
06-08-06, 17:22
I go to Seoul twice a year on business. After reading so many posts on the RLD, I can't wait to go there. I love Korean women!
I stay at the Novotel in GangNam. Which RLD is this close to? I know the metro station is nearby. Any massages nearby with attractive girls that provide extars with the massages?
If you want to meet married women try Mool Nightclub or Don't Tell Mama Nightclub.
I believe there is a MP called 'Feel' right by your hotel, specifically on that street driving towards the Kyobo building intersection.
There's a big neon sign so you can't miss it. I'm unsure whether they accept foreigners or not but worth checking out since its only a 3 minute walk from the hotel.
Expect prices to start from ~W180,000.
And no, I've never tried the place...
Here are maps and directions that I made for my site GFEquest. I'll post them here as they are a little bit more detailed than the previous ones.
Please PM me with any reccomendations. I'll be posting directions, pics, and a report on Yongjakul RLD soon.
1. Yongsan RLD
a. Yongsan Station (135) on Line 1 (Dark Blue)
Go out the main entrance down the stairs and cross the street at the intersection (back entrance goes to the electronics market). Go straight and it'll be the first alleyway on your left and right. Walk along the A row untill you see a small alleyway and here you'll find the B-rows that service foreignors.
b. Sin-Yongsan St () on Line 4 (Light Blue)
Just walk towards Yongsan Station, either exit # 3 or 4 will work. You'll see the glass houses shortly.
2. Miari Texas
Gireum Station (417) on Line 4 (Light Blue)
Take exit # 10, the entrance is partly covered and on your right. Walk towards the back untill an old lady (adjuma) beckens you. She'll take you into a room and show you the girls she has available.
*Note: No cars are allowed to drive into this RLD.
3. 588
a. Cheongnyangni Station (125) on line 1 (Dark Blue)
Take exit 5, face the Lotte Department store and head to the right. At the corner of the store you turn left and then turn right either before or after the parking structure. You could also go towards Bulim Hotel and when you pass the hotel there will be a small row of glass houses. The adjumas in the corner by the department store accept foreignors and will offer you a middle-aged lady.
b. There is another Cheongnyangni Station but this is for the railroad (KNR) and not the subway. Just go down the stairs and you'll find yourself behind the Lotte Dept. Store. There may be some adjumas hustling middle-aged women to your left. See what they have to offer or go to the front of the Dept Store and follow directions in section a. You can also go to the left of the KNR exit and end up by the RLD through a small maze of dark alleyways.
c. To take a taxi just say 5-8-8 in Korean "oh-pal-pal" (pal rhymes with ball). The ride shouldn't be more than 15k won from central Seoul. 588 is towards the North-East of Yongsan and Itaewon.
4. Bundang
Sinheung Station () on line 8 (Pink Line)
Take exit 2, walk down one of the side streets and turn right. You'll see glass houses with curtains, some advertise karaoke.
5. Youngdeungpo
Yeongdeungpo Station (139) on Line 1 (Dark Blue)
There is a small row of glass houses here and many karaoke parlors that offer hostesses. The glasshouse is to the north of the station to the right of the main street. The red location on the map is where I think it is.
Song Seung Heon
06-12-06, 06:57
This is also one of my favorite RLD's to go to get laid. Last time I checked a couple months ago, only about 5 percent vacant. I remember a couple years ago before the crackdown, this place was rockin with every imaginable hot Korean pussy awaiting to satisfy and please your every needs. These girls were literally begging me to get fucked as I strolled by. What is the concurrent situation right now? In particular, the A row, this is where the real eye candy is at, but as always, the quality and amount ratio changes from time to time.
OldAsiaHand
06-13-06, 10:22
First, great directions report Hi Rub.
I've read this thread and determined that the quality and quantity of talent at various RLDs varies. Last fall, I visited Yongsan RLD and found it operating at below capacity. Many of the windows were empty. I did manage to find one "B" row girl that was acceptable to do, but just barely. Most were not and my standards are not that high. I paid her 60,000.
I have also visited 555 and Miari in the past. I found less girls willing to do foreigners at 555 and more at Miari, but this was a couple of years back. I was at another RLD that I cannot remember the name where not even one girl was willing to do me.
I've done "the hill" more recently, but frankly, find it to be even less desirable.
Where does a foreigner go for good service (BBBJ/CFS) for less than 100k with a 7-8 of less than 25 years of age? Is this possible in Seoul? Unfortunately, I am not into "middle aged" or overweight ladies. Should I just keep it in my pants for other Asian destinations.
OAH
P.S. If any local mongers have some time to show me the ropes, I am pleased to buy dinner and/or drinks along the way. Just PM me.
First, great directions report Hi Rub.
Where does a foreigner go for good service (BBBJ/CFS) for less than 100k with a 7-8 of less than 25 years of age? Is this possible in Seoul?OAH,
I am truly impressed with your energy and motivation! Your actions are legendary in China and SE! My hats off to you sir. As a Korean-American, I can give some advice on this thread, although certainly others should comment as I am not a true local.
The first is a general comment that if travelling with a local that speaks the language and is a regular customer, almost any of the areas are negotiable for travelling companions. 588, for some strage reason, is a particularly picky location, and may be the one area that resists foreigner more than others.
Yongsan's RLD, especially the South row (further away from the train station, further from the big theater there) has the best looking and foreign friendly crowd. It is fairly standard for BBBJ, DFK and CFS. I think YMMV with DATY. Just to be safe, these should be agreed upon first, although my personal experiece is that if you gently push for these in the room, they are agreeable. This area definitely has younger girls, almost certainly under 25 yo. Miari, Hooker Hill are other locations that are pretty friendly, although each shop will be different. By my standards, you find the occasional 7-9 in these locations.
The Anmas are alternatives, and usually give 45-60 minutes of service, but also cost around W180k in Seoul. Outside of Seoul - Suwon, Incheon are some cities that have RLDs for W40-70k. If you get to the airport early, a quick trip into Incheon by cab is around W10k, ask for New town, or Airport village, where you will see about 5 anmas for W100-130k. I tried this on my way out of ROK, and it made for a very relaxing flight home. The whole excursion should take 2.5 hours if things go smoothly, so allow for some time-cushion. My understanding is that these places are foreigner friendly too.
Hope that helps.
M
Hey guys,
Which anma do you consider to be the best as far as good looking girls? I've been to many anmas in Kangnam and I don't know if it's bad luck or what but the quality of girls has been below average. If someone can tell me where I can find an anma with hot chicks no matter the costs I would really appreciate it.
Khk10,
As for Kangnam, I heard that these establishments are quite nice with young talent. I'm not sure if these places are foreign friendly, but since money isn't an issue, then try:
1. Ace (off the Kangnam Ku-Chung Station on line 7 I believe)
2. Captain (near Yeoksam Station on line 2 across from the Renaissance Hotel and inside the alley)
3. Feel (near the Ritz Carlton)
Happy hunting.
DH
Song Seung Heon
06-16-06, 09:29
I'll be returning to Seoul in a couple months, I'll be on my way to banging as much stunners. From previous expierience, you can't beat 588 rld in the meter scale. I'll be checking up on these, what is the update here? How many girls working?
OldAsiaHand
06-16-06, 15:32
Manfest,
Thank you for your compliments and advice. I noted that you were in SZ recently and managed to find your way around my hunting grounds pretty easily, as well. Make sure to PM me when you are back in S. China in August and maybe we can hook-up.
I may have gotten turned around since I took a taxi and have only been there once, but I thought the South row was the closest to the train station. Does the station have a flight of stairs in the front of it? Anyway, this is the row I found the girl on last time. If it is not the South row, which row is closest to the station?
I saw Moody in SZ this week and he told me many of the RLD girls have moved over to Itaewan after the crackdown. When was the last time you were on the "hill"?
OAH
Yongsan's RLD, especially the South row (further away from the train station, further from the big theater there) has the best looking and foreign friendly crowd.
Big Kahuna
06-17-06, 15:49
Decided to try a change of scenery and went to the SNU BS since
I had not been to a BS in a while.
Now I know why I like ANMAs so much.
I had Sugi, she must be about 40 years old and about a 3 on the looks scale.
Massage was about a 2 and her performance was about a 5 at best.
The place had a terrible odor of mold and stench.
I will not go back to that place.
I will keep an open mind and may try another BS in the Gangnam area.
BK
Scotlander
06-17-06, 18:49
What happened to 'Mindy' from the hill (she worked in Ambrosia bar). I was back on the hill recently and she wasn't to be seen anywhere.
What happened to 'Mindy' from the hill (she worked in Ambrosia bar). I was back on the hill recently and she wasn't to be seen anywhere.Scotlander,
I think Mork beamed her up!.......sorry, I couldn't pass that one up!
Yella Man
I may have gotten turned around since I took a taxi and have only been there once, but I thought the South row was the closest to the train station.
I saw Moody in SZ this week and he told me many of the RLD girls have moved over to Itaewan after the crackdown. When was the last time you were on the "hill"?
Hi OAH,
The confusion may be in the start location. There are 2 train stations close to this area: Yongsan and Sin Yongsan (they are on different lines so depending on which one is more convenient for you). I previously used the Yongsan station, the one with the stairs you mentioned (although I haven't used Sin Yongsan to confirm that too does not have a stairwell in front). So presuming you start at Yongsan, you walk kinda south east and you hit this areas within 5-10 minutes, and the "South" row is furthest away. If you get to the Sin Yongsan station, you have passed the area. I last took some guests there 7 months ago and had high quality choices without any comment about my foreign friends. Hope that helps.
You are correct, I have not been to the "hill" since the major crackdown about 2 years ago. Similarly, I avoided Itaewon because I understood there to be undercover police there once in awhile, plain clothed to make life more difficult for punters. I do not have much verification on this last point, just one local person's advice for whatever that is worth.
Thanks for your kind offer. If the stars align, perhaps I will take you up on it in August. I was/am considering Zhuhai, but SZ seems more convenient to go to and from HK.
-M
Song Seung Heon
06-20-06, 03:20
What is going on now in 588? This is my favorite RLD so far, alot of Korean Hotties (8-10) scale. I am planning to stay in Boolim Hotel which is located right next to the RLD, the walking distance is just a few steps into the alleyways. I need more info before it closes down, so grab your hottie and bang like crazy.
AgentOrange
06-20-06, 04:34
It was my first time in Korea last week and went to this barbershop (see attached photo) a few blocks away from the yongsan station. A 30ish (but pretty!) korean lady welcomed me... didn't talk a single word of English but managed to communicate with her in sign language. Fee was 60,000 won and got down to business. She asked me to lie down on this barber's chair, washed my feet and wiped my hands. First she massaged my upper extremities... decent kneading going down... then when she approached my crotch area, she pulled down my pants, went on top of me then was about to place my dick in her pussy bareback! i said "wait a minute!" is this a normal practice in korea? Anyway, just requested for a BBBJ and she obliged... very good with it and came in no time... after that she cleaned me up and finished the massage to my lower extremities... overall, good service for a newbie trip. But still, massages are better in the philippines, china or thailand for less that price.
OldAsiaHand
06-20-06, 16:23
I arrived at around 10:00 PM and checked out all the rows, with the exception of the North "B" row which I believe you need to use a pedestrian overpass to cross the road. I wanted to do a girl on the South "B" but she asked for 80k for 15 mins, everything covered. She gave me a real "professional/mechanical" sort of feeling so I passed.
I went to the other side (West B?), furthest away from the Yongsan station and ended up with a girl for 70k, 15 mins. including BBBJ. I also found her attitude and service to be very professional and mechanical. She would not do me cowgirl claiming I was too big; surely a compliment, but not true.
All in all it was not as good an experience as my previous visit last fall which was much closer to GFE as it can get in 15-20 minutes. I hope to have better luck next time.
OAH
Asianlover38
06-20-06, 19:07
Was in Seoul and staying in the Inter'Cont. To save time I went again to a barbershop although the last times I got quite disappointed (tried several ones around the area) - and this time it was even worst - got hurt that I had some pain for more that a day - besides the older women now even that - AVOID them - next time I'll try the RLD as described in the reports (haha - my fault as I wanted to save time).
I'd try one of the many Anma's around the Inter'Cont. There was a previous post (by SeoulSurvivor I believe) about the W Anma in that area. I've visited W before and I had a very nice session. It did require some Korean, but my Korean is very limited. The staff was able to pick-up in English when needed.
Was in Seoul and staying in the Inter'Cont. To save time I went again to a barbershop although the last times I got quite disappointed (tried several ones around the area) - and this time it was even worst - got hurt that I had some pain for more that a day - besides the older women now even that - AVOID them - next time I'll try the RLD as described in the reports (haha - my fault as I wanted to save time).
OldAsiaHand
06-24-06, 04:45
I walked the hill one night this week. As far as I could tell, there was not much change in the overall quality since last fall. I did see a couple of 7s, but most girls were in the 3-4 range with a couple of 1-2s in the bars at the very top. I really cannot understand how they can get any business whatsover. IMHO, one would have to be "blind" drunk to go for it.
One of the 7s had the balls to ask me for 250k ST. Even the 3-4 range wanted 80-100k ST and the dogs, 40-50k.
OAH
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