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Lysander54
01-15-09, 10:01
I've had a few trips to Seoul and have yet to put my feet in the waters. Mostly too busy with work. Though Schaf29's report does peak my interest. I am staying at the Renaissance Marriott and as I understand from RTFF I am close to several spots, including Schaf29's new spot. I have not seen any recent activity on the forum for Apple or Queen or any of the other spots around the Hotel. Have they dried up or just "everyone knows them, why post"?
Anyway back on topic, I found Bobos massage on-line and was wondering if they where legit. Prices are a little high but then again you can see what you are getting. Or should I just jump in.
BTW I also noticed a double pole across the street called "The best of the best". Looks a little shady but then again don't they all. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Had a chat after and it seems they get a lot of foreigners in there, usually during the day.
Following up on Thegoods report I went to Belle today around 12:30 pm or so after staying away for the last few months. I asked and apparently they open at Noon. I was excited to get a different girl from the last time I went there but I got Nara again. She gave a very nice BBBJ with nice suction. I still have a bunch of the flyers from Belle so they gave me 5,000 won off. For 60,000 won it's a pretty good deal for this city, and with the exchange rate that's only about $43 USD or so now.
Had an interesting chat with Nara afterward. I never really talked to her before becuase my Korean was pretty nonexistent but I've learned a little since then and her English is better as well. A couple points:
1. I asked about the police raids on Belle and she didn't know what I was talking about. She said the police came only once last year, in July. She asked if I read about it on the internet and I said yes. She said those were just rumors and that everything is fine. So either someone was full of shit regarding the police raids on Belle or she doesn't know what she is talking about. Which brings me to point number two...
2. Ummm, is this girl mentally challenged or something? Seriously, if you talk to her for a little bit, she just seems retarded. She's a very nice girl and all but something about her isn't quite right.
I wanted to ask her about coming to my place sometime after work. We started talking about sex and she told me she hasn't had sex in over three years! So, I didn't even bother asking about it. Shame that body is going to waste.
On another note, I checked out Miari last Friday night at about 10:00 pm. I had to meet someone at the Holiday Inn Seongbuk, so since I was in the area I decided to check it out. You get out at Girium exit 10 and it's right outside, just pass though the "car wash flaps", you can't miss them.
It was so cold out that all the women were bundled up. They were sitting in these little plastic booths, it's hard to explain. Anyways, I didn't really see anything good, but I only checked out a couple of alleyways before I decided to head back because of the freezing temperature.
Are the women in the booths working, or are they the mamasans? They looked too old to be working girls but I guess you never know in this country!
Hi All,
Greeted by a young guy who was so obviously gay that I was not sure where I ended up, anyways, I asked how much. His answer: "twenty"
Wow, I had different thoughts, one was "Am I the lucky 1 millionst customer and get the service for nearly free? " or "Maybe it is a love-hotel and I am just renting a room for an hour? " or "Did he just offer 20 whatever for my ass? ". He must have seen that I have strange thoughts, so he used his calculator and punched a number in: 200 000. "twenty" he repeated with a smile. Well, just a little language problem and my thoughts changed to good mood!
Great report and it is good to see that anma#'s are still open. I was busy with 'freebees' so my last anma experience is some time ago. Your report reminds me that I need to go again.
One word regarding the '20' quote for the ones not living here.
In Korea they also count 10.000 won as 1 man won = 1 만 원. so what he meant with 20 was 20 man = 20x10.000 = 200.000 Won
Brain666
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On another note, I checked out Miari last Friday night at about 10:00 pm. I had to meet someone at the Holiday Inn Seongbuk, so since I was in the area I decided to check it out. You get out at Girium exit 10 and it's right outside, just pass though the "car wash flaps", you can't miss them.
It was so cold out that all the women were bundled up. They were sitting in these little plastic booths, it's hard to explain. Anyways, I didn't really see anything good, but I only checked out a couple of alleyways before I decided to head back because of the freezing temperature.
Are the women in the booths working, or are they the mamasans? They looked too old to be working girls but I guess you never know in this country!
For necomers to miari: of course the women outside is not the working girl !!! They are the mama-sans or however you want to call them. The girls are in the glass houses which nowadays are usually fully closed and you only get to see them if you are somehow interested. Not all will serve you especially not the ones right after the 'car wash flaps' entrance. You need to go further and there will be enough who will make offers.
Don't know the actual quality though - its been some time ago when I went there and I usually have some save palces where I am well welcomed and recieve good service.
Not sure if my previous favourite spot is even still open.
anyhow, please make another try and report.
regards
Brain666
Wow guys, I just got home from a week in Seoul on business. I HAVE to report on this one provider in Itewon. Her name is Soo Ae, and she works in some place called the peach fuzz or something like that. Go past hooker hill on your left and proceed up the hill past the tranny bars. The sign is in pink.
Went there last night and was the only guy in the place. Little couches with a curtain to draw for privacy. Met Soo Ae and she was very cute, bubbly and friendly. Thought she was mid 30’s with a great body and nice tits. Nice long black hair and an hour glass figure. Really thin waist and she actually had a pretty nice ass for a Korean.
Anyway, down to business, I only brought enough won with me for short time and I.D. (old habit). So, I only have about 140K, and after a LD (10K) and a beer (7K) she asks if I want “fun time”. Hell yes, and offer up the money. She is disappointed and says 200K for fun time. I say all I have and she agrees. She goes and gets her little basket of oils and condoms, and I take off my clothes and she washes my dick with some handy wipes. She gets naked also except for the thigh high black leather boots. Standing in front of me with legs spread and hands on her hips, I am reminded of a comic book heroin. What a silhouette! She had an obscenely thin waist and small well rounded C cup tits with smallish brown pencil eraser nipples standing straight out. Fuck my dick is hard already.
She kneels down in front of me and asks if I want CBJ. I tell her it’s OK, and she goes for it without. Not bad, but nothing special to write home about. She puts on the condom and mounts for cowgirl with her knees on either side of me, then switches around for reverse CG while standing. Now for the good stuff, you would think I was Ron Jeremy with the way she was yelling. I would give her the best actress Oscar for the porn talk coming out of her mouth. I almost cum at this point, but it was too soon in the ballgame.
So we switch to her laying down on her back mish, and me pumping slowly into what I can only describe as a really tight vagina with a delicate small bush and light brown lips kind of reaching out for my cock. She just kept staring into my face with these baby brown eyes, making cooing noises while I pumped her. Alas, I could not cum, much to her disappointment. I don’t know what happened as I had not been drinking at all. So she suggests we go to my place, and I ask how much as I am still inside her. She says 300K and I say how about 200 and she says OK almost too quickly.
We get dressed and head to the D’Oro hotel where I am staying. Nice new hotel for 60K and all the amenities. Two quick showers and we get down to business. Fuck she looks even better buck naked without the boots. Way better blow job this time, and we fuck for about another hour until we both are sweaty, and finally she says, “You come ok?” I tell her no problem and have one the best orgasms in years, deep in her (condom on) doggy style. She pulls the condom off and says, “Wow you came a lot”.
Unfortunately, after this she was pretty much business and showered up and left. Still though, one of the best fucks I have had in a while and a top three mongering experience. Only wish I had some photos to share.
Have fun with that one.
KingDiamond
01-16-09, 23:45
Just decided to go to seoul. Where is belle?
It had been a few years since I last tried an Anma (안마) in Korea. I didn't realize what I had been missing. There is an alley of these places near Seollung station (#2 line). The alley behind (or above) Teheran-ro. They have parking lots that resemble car washes and the way it's spelt is as I've spelt it above. Now I am Korean so I understand that this post may be of little use to non-Koreans who are looking for the same experience. Since I speak Korean and my communication was done 100% in Korean, I am not sure if the one I went to accepts non-Koreans. What I did inquire was whether the young lady I met had ever serviced a non-Korean and she replied simply that she had serviced some Japanese men, but they were Japanese men who could converse in Korean. The place is called Koguryo and is about one block away from Exit #8 of the above mentioned subway station.
You enter and are greeted by a woman receptionist. She quotes the price as 180,000 KRW (with the exchange rates now that's even less than $150 USD). A male attendant escorted me downstairs to a common area that has lockers and resembles the dressing room that is found in many of the public baths in Korea (very clean). Since I went during the middle of the day, there were no other customers so it made me feel like it was my own personal bath. Sometimes I wish these places would have female attendants but with the price that I was paying and the service that was offered, I am really in no position to explain. After I undressed and put on their bathrobe I was informed by the same attendant that the young lady needed a bit more time and he led me to a mini-PC room where I used the internet. Shortly after he led me two flights up to a floor that that resembles a five star hotel. There are countless number of rooms and the facilities are top notch. He eventually led me to a room and opened the door and inside sitting on the bed was a lovely young lady who called herself "June." She was very pretty and had shapely legs, a nice ass and a relatively nice set of tits. She took it very slow by offering me a cool drink and asked if she could smoke a cigarette. I obliged and we started talking about how long she'd been in the business, where she was originally from, her mother, her upbringing, and other small chit chat. I helped her out of her one piece dress and she asked me to help her out of her lingerie. She finished her cigarette and off to the massage table (that was right inside the same room along with bathroom facilities, a sauna and sink). She washed me down and then applied some liquid to her body and hopped right on my back. She did the slip-slide massage by pushing her tits and pussy into my back, legs and calves. She started to lick me all over on my back side and even tongued my asshole. The last time I was at an Anma the girl poured a can of Chilsung Cider on my back and drank off my body (which was in itself erotic). But as June was licking and sucking me, I started to actually wonder what liquid she had applied to her body and then rubbed into mine... it couldn't possibly be soap. But that thought was momentary as I continued to enjoy her mouth and tongue. She then asked me to turn over and again did the slip-slide massage and really gyrated her tits and pussy onto my chest, my pelvis and legs. She started to suck my knees which creates this indescribable sensation...and then she proceeded to my cock and started to suck like there was no tomorrow. I stopped her after a while and she calmly helped me up, washed me down and dried me (and herself) and we proceeded to the bed.
Now the bedroom area has a bed with a mirror next to it. But when you lie down, there's also a mirror on the roof which gives you a panoramic view of the action that was to commence. And did it ever commence. She pushed me down onto my back and again did a replay of the action on the massage table. She never hesitated to suck my dick and even asked me if I wanted more bj action. She placed a condom and then off to the races. First cow-girl style but then I lay her missionary style and slid inside her. Now at this point, I would have been satisfied with just fucking... but she asked me to kiss her DFK style. I was surprised since a lot of places have girls who are more than willing to go through the deed but often draw the line with kissing. But she was a gem and moreover suggested it to me and of course I obliged. After I came she lay beside me and wanted to talk more. Since I am Korean and speak Korean but am not from Korea there might have been an intrigue factor (or maybe she's quite skilled at being a good provider in all aspects). But I never got the feeling that this girl wanted to simply just leave after everything was done and in the end it's impressions that make or break the deal in these kind of joints. I'm not naive to think that she was taken by me but she sure made me feel it and in the end that's what makes your money count. She took time cleaning me up, talking with me again about life in general, this and that... I really thought it would be a wham, bam thank you ma'am deal but not at all. I helped her dress and she was a sport even when we said our good-byes. I went back downstairs (I forewent the massage by a blind person) and again was met by the attendant. They make you feel like a VIP and even felt bad that I didn't have the massage (which by the way is what Anma 안마 means) so they even offered to order me lunch. I declined since I had to meet someone. For the price that I paid, the service and facilities are top notch. If you're a non-Korean and can find a place that will accept you as a customer (again I'm not sure with Koguryo based on my conversation), and you can fork over 180,000 KRW (or 200,000 KRW), this is the real deal in Korea. It doesn't have the seedy feel of the RLD (although that seedy feel is what turns some people on) and the service is really at its best. Of course in the RLD you can get laid for more than half the price of an Anma, but when you walk away from an Anma you really feel like you got the full package.
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Looking Inrok
01-19-09, 13:05
Just decided to go to seoul. Where is belle?
There must be at least 5 previous posts with this info. RTFF.
Looking Inrok
01-19-09, 13:15
I wanted to ask her about coming to my place sometime after work. We started talking about sex and she told me she hasn't had sex in over three years! So, I didn't even bother asking about it. Shame that body is going to waste.
You should have asked. She's probably lying about the 3 years thing, or maybe you misunderstood her Korean. Remember when you went to strip clubs in the States (or anywhere for that matter) and when you talk up strippers when you get lapdances and all? Didn't you find it amazing that ALL of the girls were paying their way through college? Even the 40+ year old girl who obviously lived a hard, coke-fueled life...
Next time, ask her out. You might be able to score. I had a date with one of the chicks from Cool when I was there, and it turned into a freebie (disclaimer: I keep in touch and she no longer works there.. Sorry to disappoint guys).
Anmadude,
I had a very similar experience to yours in an anma in Icheon I think (see previous posts). It was new to me (1st time) and was exciting, especially the whole body massage.
My question to the board is: Would it be helpful to learn the Korean language? Would that help even if the guy is foreigner? I realize some of the language (suck my tits, DFK me, your pussy is tight!) will not be in the online classes or typical dictionaries. But maybe with some tutoring I would be able to learn.
So, I guess the question to the Koreans on the board is: Are these places off limits to foreigners because we are foreign? Or is it because communication is difficult and the experience would be a disaster for everyone involved?
Just wondering because I just found out I will be in Seoul next year for the next three years and I am thinking I need to learn Korean so I can order some food.
thanks or kamsahamnida
Anmadude,
I had a very similar experience to yours in an anma in Icheon I think (see previous posts). It was new to me (1st time) and was exciting, especially the whole body massage.
My question to the board is: Would it be helpful to learn the Korean language? Would that help even if the guy is foreigner? I realize some of the language (suck my tits, DFK me, your pussy is tight! ) will not be in the online classes or typical dictionaries. But maybe with some tutoring I would be able to learn.
So, I guess the question to the Koreans on the board is: Are these places off limits to foreigners because we are foreign? Or is it because communication is difficult and the experience would be a disaster for everyone involved?
Just wondering because I just found out I will be in Seoul next year for the next three years and I am thinking I need to learn Korean so I can order some food.
Thanks or kamsahamnidaBoth Yes and No. Sometimes you might be able to convince places that usually doesn't except foreigners if your Korean is good, and I by that I mean that you can converse freely in a way that shows you understand Korea. But the number one reason that places doesn't accept foreigners is because Korean guys doesn't like to share "their" girls with foreign guys, based on different prejudices. So in order not to loose the Korean clientel they rather choose to refuse foreigners. However some places find that foreigners also make good costumers and they can usually charge a little more from foreigners. If you go during the time of the day when not many other costumers are around it will be easier as they can sneak you in and out without any Korean guys noticing it. Of course there are also some girls who doesn't wanna service foreigners, but it's mostly not the reason, and if you can speak Korean even most of those girls will feel comfortable enough to service you.
Thanks LeLion,
I would say that clears up things a bit. As most of the Koreans I know were either born here/raised in USA, or born/raised in USA, I have little interaction with native Korean men. I can say that the interaction I have had with them has been pleasant; albeit on a surface level only.
I would like to offer a different perspective. Being from Hawaii, there is very much an “US vs. Them” mentality in regards to Locals vs. Visitors. And by locals I mean people who were born on one of the islands. However, if you were born there and moved away to the mainland to be raised, then you were also local, but not really, sort of like half local or local by birth only.
I would face this often as being a white guy, most would assume not local. But once I opened my mouth, people knew I was a local guy and those rates and services would apply. Sometimes, nothing would change things as many locals just plainly outright “hate” white people or tourists for whatever reason. And, some people are just plain assholes. Every society has them.
I do admire the Korean nation for pulling itself out of the disaster of the war. I was here in ’91 and it was nothing like it is today. (Except maybe Hooker Hill) I also firmly believe the younger generation does not realize the sacrifice of their parents and grandparents.
So, OK, I know understand what is up. It makes sense. If you have a built up clientele of locals, then why would you jeopardize that by servicing foreigner? Only makes good business sense and you cannot criticize someone for that.
Whew, I know three languages already, but I think Korean might be difficult. Plus, who is going to teach me, “Can I suck your tits”? I am sure that is not in the ‘Korean phrasebook for travelers’.
Aloha to all and happy fucking,
Carm.
Has anyone been to room salon? I know that perhaps language barrier may be too difficult to overcome. But I heard that most stunning girls are in the roomsalon of Kangnam. I am sure there are times you appreciate strict service nature of glass door girls and anmas. But there times we (mongers) yearn some conversation and a chance to be treated like kings etc. Alcohol and babes.
Hairy Wonder
01-21-09, 13:00
Just my 2 won worth on each conversation!
Anmadude,
You are in a very unique position to be of assistance to all of us that are obvious waeguks (foreigners) here. Being that you are Korean by birth, you will be allowed entry and access to many places that any waeguk would not be. Many places will let you in just by seeing you. Also, if you are in a helpful mood, you could probably act as an escort to get other members in the front door of places that would normally turn us away if we tried to go in on our own. Keep up the effort to monger and report on every possible venue you can find. Even if the rest of us non-Koreans can't go in, the reports should make for interesting reading. Please try to take some pictures and post them also!
Carmex,
Man you get around! I've been seeing your posts on the PI boards and also in Thailand (I think). Where do you get all the stamina?
Learning the language will definitely help to get you better service here in Korea. It might even get you inside some places that normally turn foreigners away. I would suggest you find someone like Anmadude to teach you the proper terms for use with the ladies. But whoever teaches you, be cautious when you first use a phrase. 22 years ago, when I was a "cherry boy" in Korea, I learned not to immediately try a phrase on a woman, unless I could make it clear to her first that someone else told me to say it. I watched many of my friends get severely beaten (not in the fun sense) by Korean girls because they were offended by what the guy said. Turns out the guys that were doing the teaching thought it would be funny to see this happen, and purposefully taught the poor ignorant fools lines that turned those sweet, petite Korean girls into raging bulls. I found that it helped, when someone taught me a line to use, if I discussed it with a 3rd party that understood English and Korean very well. If their reaction to what I said was one of surprise, or they told me the line was bad, I would not say it to any woman.
To all members,
The Korean threads are very dead compared to what they used to be. I know that the new Korean laws, and the military zero tolerance thing, have made the hobby difficult. I'm not as active here in Korea as I used to be either. But I also know that there is much more going on than is being reported. Please bring some life back into these forums guys!
Happy Mongering!
HW
Has anyone been to room salon? I know that perhaps language barrier may be too difficult to overcome. But I heard that most stunning girls are in the roomsalon of Kangnam. I am sure there are times you appreciate strict service nature of glass door girls and anmas. But there times we (mongers) yearn some conversation and a chance to be treated like kings etc. Alcohol and babes.
Yes we need to get these threads a bit more active!
In any event, I've visited numerous room salon establishments, and I can confirm that the higher end venues (10%) do offer stunning girls, majority of which look a bit plastic but still nonetheless gorgeous girls with slamming bodies. Prices for the higher end places are really steep, especially for just the presence of a beautiful young girl to sit and accompany you while drinking. As mentioned, the 10% places will not offer a second round (2 cha) for follow up action back at a hotel. I believe tip prices to just the girl is at W100K, along with drink and room prices which should eventually set you back about W500-600K a head.
Other establishments, especially ones mentioned on this board and refered to as the Buk Chang Dong style, are technically considered the lower end room salons, with a time limit of only 2 hours, and is known to be a bit seedier as girls will sit topless with you and the last 10 minutes will be reserved for a bareback blowjob followed by a handjob in the same room as your colleagues. Quite an experience but tiresome after a while. Prices should be about W200K or a bit less.
Mid end room salons will offer a bit of both, beautiful looking girls with an opportunity for take out but this must be stated prior to entry as the madame will bring out different girls depending on who wants second round or
not. In any event, its basically the same deal, girl sits with you, pours your drinks, feeds you fruit and sings songs at your request. Prices usually including 2nd round can go for about W500K.
From my observations, the room salon girls are amongst the prettier girls here in Korea - even on the same level as some high profile celebrities. Definitely a good experience but really fucking expensive.
On a side note, a lot of these ktvs and room salons are quite the cutural norm throughout asia. In the PI, ktvs are a fraction of what you can pay here in Korea and thus Japanese and Korean tourists are frequent visitors to these establishments because they're dirt cheap in comparison and fucking is usually guaranteed for a spinner. Ktvs in Shanghai and in China in general are also tons of fun, as these huge venues can house about 200 girls and pricing is also dirt cheap in comparison with sex included at the end of the session.
Sometimes its nice to be treated like a king, but then the costs associated with room salons will eventually make you a peasant. The times I did go was always with clients or colleagues on the corporate card. In any event, should you go, it would be best to go with a local to arrange reservations and costs.
Have fun.
Yes we need to get these threads a bit more active!
In any event, I've visited numerous room salon establishments, and I can confirm that the higher end venues (10%) do offer stunning girls, majority of which look a bit plastic but still nonetheless gorgeous girls with slamming bodies. Prices for the higher end places are really steep, especially for just the presence of a beautiful young girl to sit and accompany you while drinking. As mentioned, the 10% places will not offer a second round (2 cha) for follow up action back at a hotel. I believe tip prices to just the girl is at W100K, along with drink and room prices which should eventually set you back about W500-600K a head.
Other establishments, especially ones mentioned on this board and refered to as the Buk Chang Dong style, are technically considered the lower end room salons, with a time limit of only 2 hours, and is known to be a bit seedier as girls will sit topless with you and the last 10 minutes will be reserved for a bareback blowjob followed by a handjob in the same room as your colleagues. Quite an experience but tiresome after a while. Prices should be about W200K or a bit less.
Mid end room salons will offer a bit of both, beautiful looking girls with an opportunity for take out but this must be stated prior to entry as the madame will bring out different girls depending on who wants second round or
not. In any event, its basically the same deal, girl sits with you, pours your drinks, feeds you fruit and sings songs at your request. Prices usually including 2nd round can go for about W500K.
From my observations, the room salon girls are amongst the prettier girls here in Korea - even on the same level as some high profile celebrities. Definitely a good experience but really fucking expensive.
On a side note, a lot of these ktvs and room salons are quite the cutural norm throughout asia. In the PI, ktvs are a fraction of what you can pay here in Korea and thus Japanese and Korean tourists are frequent visitors to these establishments because they're dirt cheap in comparison and fucking is usually guaranteed for a spinner. Ktvs in Shanghai and in China in general are also tons of fun, as these huge venues can house about 200 girls and pricing is also dirt cheap in comparison with sex included at the end of the session.
Sometimes its nice to be treated like a king, but then the costs associated with room salons will eventually make you a peasant. The times I did go was always with clients or colleagues on the corporate card. In any event, should you go, it would be best to go with a local to arrange reservations and costs.
Have fun.Thanks for your information.
I agree. Many asian women hide their age and beauty rather well with plastic surgery supplemented by make-up. Of course alcohol we consume only augments their beauty.
I guess I am just curious about how beautiful they are in room salons.
Visiting Anmas, massage parlours and other brothels provide sure things that can be rather mechanical and I guess I am looking for other options.
I did visit some korean roomsalons in Houston (TX) and they were okay with women range from asian scale of 3s-7s. As an asian-american I can really appreciate true beauty (or ****) when I see one. However I am constantly amazed by "different" standards that non-asians have. I know countless number of caucasian friends going out with okay asian girls (3s-4s), but my friends think they are gorgeous...
In order to provide where I am coming from...here is well known asian stars with scale from 1 to 10: You can google for images
Lucy Lu who appears in kill bill would be rated as 1 and Kim You Jin (korean actress in T.V. show "Lost") would be slight below average with rate of 4, but women liked kim tae hee or kim hee sun would be 8 and chun ji hyun would be 9.
So please if you those 9s in kangnam please post here.
Other establishments, especially ones mentioned on this board and refered to as the Buk Chang Dong style, are technically considered the lower end room salons, with a time limit of only 2 hours, and is known to be a bit seedier as girls will sit topless with you and the last 10 minutes will be reserved for a bareback blowjob followed by a handjob in the same room as your colleagues. Quite an experience but tiresome after a while. Prices should be about W200K or a bit less.During a whistlestop business trip to Seoul I was taken to one of these place with 3 business associates. It is good fun, but the girls weren't anything to write home about, and ranged from 4-7. Being a guest I got first choice, lucky me. It is kind of seedy but with the beer and whisky flowing, and the girls taking their clothes off, it is fun if you are not paying.
I imagine my associates felt I would be uncomfortable being sucked off in front of them, so they paid for her to come back to my hotel with me. She took a shower, and DFK, BBBJ and CIM were on the menu. She wouldn't fuck as apparently I was too big, but as I was quite drunk, that was no major concern, and I was happy to let her do the work sucking me off. After I had shot my bolt I went down on her until she came, which was quite quickly. She stayed about an hour, and requested my email before she left - perhaps we will become pen pals?
I also visited Koreana hotel sporex spa, very good massage and nice facilities - the set up has been described before so I won't reiterate that, but the massage was from a young Korean cutie, and included a HE. SHe didn't get naked but touching her up over her clothes was fine. Again, I wasn't paying and at 118k KRW it is hardly value, but the massage was a "proper" massage and very good too.
Here for a second visit. Last time did a bar girl on hooker hill. Being new, probably got "taken" $2. USD and thats afetr a couple $20 drinks. She was a beauty though. Probably a (, the best looking Korean, overall I have been with. And she spoke good english.
Hoping to do better. Cheaper this time.
Here with a group that definitely is not going to do any mogering so I'll be on my own for short periods of time.
Had a card from a massage place last time (Song's Body Massage), older heavy-set hawker. Hope she is not the provider. Anybody with experience?
Having a little difficulty finding the definition for RLD. Is that like a stright on brothel?
Anyway, have more knowledge of China, specifically Changping. Been there a few times. Kind of a new experience here in Seoul. Will be here a few more days if anyone can assist.
BTW, don't speak Korean.
Thanks in advance.
Mika
I took airport bus 9k wons, from airport to Myeongdong. After having dinner, I took taxi to Gireum(pronounced Ki rum). Line 4 subway can go there for 1k won, just get down from Myeongdong Station(make sure you go the right direction, Gireum is station #417)
Once getting to Gireum, taking exit 10, I found a bunch of people standing by, most are SEAsian mongerers and mamasans. I went on ahead and asked for a motel. Walking pass all active area, still on same side of street, to the first corner(it has a big SK Telekom shop sign at the corner, turn slight right, you can find a motel, which has cotton curtain to cover the entrance), I turn right and got the motel. Just 35k won you get luxury quality room, with PC and internet ready!.
Rest 1 hour, I come back out at 2am. It was cold, but mamasans still there. I got sandwiched by 2 mamasans, the better looking one won the battle and took me into her BBS. It is not far from the motel(all on same side of street), in front has a banner of Korean letters. Walking upstairs on 2nd floor, last door on the right, girls are there waiting. They are young, quality 7 out 10. Not absolute stunners, but they are pretty, and young(21-23 y.o). The place is clean!
I pay 70k. I think you can ask to pay 60k. Then picked 1 girl. She went on to do all the deeds, licking, BJ, riding, and I do DATY. About 15 minutes of pounding, I came. Could not do more than that. A bit mechanical, but the feelings is just right. Very correct and customer-oriented. She nicely sent me to the door and gave me a yogurt. No rush at all, girls are very very polite.
I guess this is the best of Seoul in terms of what we pay for.
From airport to here, totally I could pay just 10k, plus 35k for hotel.
I wish to take out all night, not sure how to say it to mamasan. My Korean is zero. I think we can ask to take the girl out at 3am. That is when they are off duty. 140k is the one I can think of for 3am to whatever in morning. This is only my assumption, I am not sure mamasan agrees her girl to be taken out or not. Earlier than 3am, I think it is not practical to ask the girl out. Or we have to pay substantial price to cover her work the whole shift.
Here is a good place, with no discrimination. I have been to Jeonju and was completely denied by many working girls in the window shops, since I don't speak Korean. Pusan Haeundae Beach is opened to all, but their overall quality is not high except some stunners in the middle of the row. However, Jeonju is stunning quality. Thing is, they don't do foreigners flatly, in at royal city.
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Was in Kangnam a while ago, and tried some of the popular HJ places. Cool asked for 75,000 won (foreigner price, at a HJ place, what the hell?!), which I politely declined (I suggest we all do, since there are other options a few meters away; their loss). Saw Belle, but tried Angel instead, since I remember going there last year, and it was pretty good. This time the girl wasn't good looking (the worst I ever had in such a place), but the service was very good. Still, not a good idea to have a below-average looking girl work there, it'll drive customers away: I'll try Belle next time.
I also tried that 'Zest' place a few months ago, where they wear costumes, it was alright, but nothing to write home about. OK if you're in the area, but not really worth the trip.
Any HJ places north of the river?
Skintboy Mike
01-27-09, 12:48
Are there any places in Seoul where one can find Russian/Ukrainian European girls?
Thank you
Are there any places in Seoul where one can find Russian/Ukrainian European girls?
Thank youThere's some room salons with russian girls north of 선릉station
Here for a second visit. Last time did a bar girl on hooker hill. Being new, probably got "taken" $2. USD and thats afetr a couple $20 drinks. She was a beauty though. Probably a (, the best looking Korean, overall I have been with. And she spoke good english.
Hoping to do better. Cheaper this time.I have never paid more than $100 in Itaewon, but when I find a girl who is beckoning me into her establishment, I go in and am very straight forward. I don't want a drink. All I want is sex (or some cute hand gesture or phrase a little less blunt). Then I tell her I only have $100. I mean, if she's hot and you think you can get better service from her by paying $150, that's fine, but so far price and service haven't always gone hand in hand. I got great service for $100 and bad service for the same price. Anyway, see if you can get a feel for her personality, but don't pay more than $100 (actually, that means 100, 000 won, so that is more like $73. Sweet deal.
Any HJ places north of the river?Yeah, I also would like to read more reports from places around Sinchon, Hongdae, Jongno. Does anyone know some good places in these areas?
SoulCracker25
01-31-09, 01:06
Carmex,
Had my first experience with the same person you mentioned in Itaewon. SHE WAS FANTASTIC!
It was just dumb luck I ended up with her.
Wow guys, I just got home from a week in Seoul on business. I HAVE to report on this one provider in Itewon. Her name is Soo Ae, and she works in some place called the peach fuzz or something like that. Go past hooker hill on your left and proceed up the hill past the tranny bars. The sign is in pink.
SoulCracker25
01-31-09, 14:56
Miari report,
So after reading tons of reports I decided to give Miari a try.
Saturday afternoon roughly around 9pm. I was driving so finding it was a bit hard but once I saw the station and looked for landmarks as decribed I was in. I walked around and yes there were "mamasons" huddled up in tents. Many saw me but didn't say I think on what I perceived to be the main road however I went to a side street (alley) and was propositioned immediately. I don't speak KOrean and she wasnt an englih speaker but I knew what to ecpect and everythign went fine. When I walked in the "house" there was one femele (Id say a Solid 6) and she was good. I went upstairs to what I'm guessing the 3rd floor to a small room and did the deed. She was very patient. Never felt rushed. I had a polite demeanor since I had no idea who or what was in the building. I was in and out in roughly 30-35 minutes.
Now for me Itaewon is NOT an option for me whatsoever. Miari is a safe distance away. I am looking forward in trying again.
I have never paid more than $100 in Itaewon, but when I find a girl who is beckoning me into her establishment, I go in and am very straight forward. I don't want a drink. All I want is sex (or some cute hand gesture or phrase a little less blunt). Then I tell her I only have $100. I mean, if she's hot and you think you can get better service from her by paying $150, that's fine, but so far price and service haven't always gone hand in hand. I got great service for $100 and bad service for the same price. Anyway, see if you can get a feel for her personality, but don't pay more than $100 (actually, that means 100, 000 won, so that is more like $73. Sweet deal.
Correct! 100.000 Won is the going price. Below is difficult. They may start with 200k, then jump to 150k and settle for 100k. Don't let you talk into too much drinks. For a first approach to test the waters you may spend 20k for a drink and maybe a second one, but never more. Once you have a provider you are satisfied with, then you can just walk in and remind the 100k you had last time w/o any drinks.
Usually there is no diffreence in service. The girls provide more according to their personality and 'service readiness'.
regards
Brain666
Correct! 100.000 Won is the going price. Below is difficult. They may start with 200k, then jump to 150k and settle for 100k. Don't let you talk into too much drinks. For a first approach to test the waters you may spend 20k for a drink and maybe a second one, but never more. Once you have a provider you are satisfied with, then you can just walk in and remind the 100k you had last time w/o any drinks.
Usually there is no diffreence in service. The girls provide more according to their personality and 'service readiness'.
regards
Brain666
I just got back from Itaewon tonight and after reading some of the reports on Hooker Hill, I decided it's something I needed to try out at least once while I'm here. I ended up in Eve Bar, about halfway up the the Hill. The girl working there was named Jina, 27 years old, very good English. She quoted me 100k for a BJ and 150k for sex. I snorted at those prices and said I would give her 50k for a BBBJCIM. She countered with 70k, I said 60k and she took it. She did a very good job and I have to say it was worth the 60,000 won that I paid. She got naked as well; nice tits with pointy nips, her ass was kind of lacking, but I guess that's how Korean girls are! Overall, better than going to the HJ/BJ places in Kangnam because there's no half-assed massage and small talk; you just go in, blow your load, and then leave.
I would go back and see Jina again. Next time I may try the FS option, but since it was my first time on the Hill, I just wanted a sample BBBJ.
Can anyone recommend any other girls on Hooker Hill? Also, is 60k a fair price for a BBBJCIM or should I have held firm at 50k?
Member #3443
02-08-09, 06:04
60k won is a fair price,especially with the won/$ exchange rate now. With the exchange rate it is about $43. A year ago and that would have been equivalent to $65-$70. ABC Club has a couple of good girls. Cube Bar is a good place to hang out (no sex) for a couple of drinks and to look up and down the hill. It is 2/3 the way up on the right side. It opens at 8 or 9pm. After the military curfew (midnight Sun-Thursday; 3am on Fri and Sat) , many of the places service the Nigerian and African crowd. Also Itaewon Land ( a Jimjilbang) just re-opended at the very top. 7k during the day and 10k after 6pm. Very relaxing!
Jack Rabbit
02-09-09, 14:38
Bad:
Stay away from Anma across from Lotte Hotel. Overpriced (haggled to 200,000won) and set me packing after the ladies saw my "package".
Twin Horses in Yeuido. Previously, they had events with two ladies (one for short while) at the same time. No more, and they jacked up the price (240,000won). HORRIBLE massage after. Actually told the blind agema to stop after she bruised my arm.
Good:
Imperial Palace hotel Anma (just down the street across from Sushi restaurant=140,000won). Been a regular for 6 months now (same girl-GFE). Girl gives great massage and facial then screws my brains out (after the whole soap and shower deal). Loves the dick. Last week, I told them it was my birthday, so she brought her massage "friend" and I had the most intense threesome of my life (and I have had many). The adgeshi looked at me like I was a Porn Star when I was leaving (mouth agape). The girls were moaning and cumming right out of a movie. No bullshit.
Sinchon close to Ewha Station. Reported previous experience before. Tried again today with different girl. Managed to pay 170,000won this time. Knock out-9. Fantastic body. She tossed my salad like she owed me money. I finally got the MILK BATH! She wore me out, and blind female massage followed. Best full service Anma yet. Foreigner friendly (sign in English, Japanese, Chinese).
Life is good . . .
Bad:
Stay away from Anma across from Lotte Hotel. Overpriced (haggled to 200,000won) and set me packing after the ladies saw my "package".
Twin Horses in Yeuido. Previously, they had events with two ladies (one for short while) at the same time. No more, and they jacked up the price (240,000won). HORRIBLE massage after. Actually told the blind agema to stop after she bruised my arm.
Good:
Imperial Palace hotel Anma (just down the street across from Sushi restaurant=140,000won). Been a regular for 6 months now (same girl-GFE). Girl gives great massage and facial then screws my brains out (after the whole soap and shower deal). Loves the dick. Last week, I told them it was my birthday, so she brought her massage "friend" and I had the most intense threesome of my life (and I have had many). The adgeshi looked at me like I was a Porn Star when I was leaving (mouth agape). The girls were moaning and cumming right out of a movie. No bullshit.
Sinchon close to Ewha Station. Reported previous experience before. Tried again today with different girl. Managed to pay 170,000won this time. Knock out-9. Fantastic body. She tossed my salad like she owed me money. I finally got the MILK BATH! She wore me out, and blind female massage followed. Best full service Anma yet. Foreigner friendly (sign in English, Japanese, Chinese).
Life is good . . .Thanks for the info J.R. i am flying to Korea tomorrow and will be in Seoul for 1 week. Any other information or tips you or anyone else can share? Post here or PM me!!
Hey guys,
This is going to be my 1st time in Seoul and I am looking forward to the experience!
I was wondering if anyone could help me out with my first experiences. Where to go who to see etc.
I have been reading the posts and I am still not sure where to start.
PM me or post here any tips or especially places to stay away from!
I will be sure to post my experiences to try to help!
Thank you
Anmadude,
So, I guess the question to the Koreans on the board is: Are these places off limits to foreigners because we are foreign? Or is it because communication is difficult and the experience would be a disaster for everyone involved?
In general, most Koreans appear racist, becuase they are. Again, this is a stereo type, but with truth. I have many Korean friends that I adore, so not everyone. The general public can suck my bigger penis! Racism anywhere is not ok with me, just a reality.
Are Koreans racist? Well yes to some degree but this is quite common throughout Asia. If you go to Japan for example, there will be establishments that take only Japanese customers. The lower end establishments will take anyone but this is quite common.
I mean hey there are golf clubs in the USA that are only open to men or caucasian men--but you don't hear people whining about that right.
My question was would it be beneficial to learn the Korean language, e.i. would it help me get laid more. And more specifically, would the effort put into learning be worth the payback in terms of pussy. Vag that would not be available to me for only speaking Tagalog, English, Arabic, etc.
Don't really want to discuss racism or xenophobia, just really more interested in girls. What these guys do in thier own country does not really bother me. I am more interested in girls and whats between thier legs. Oh yea, and how much it costs hahaha.
On a side note, now that I am thinking about it, I have to finish all my evaluations for my Korean subordinates for the year. Man, you would not believe what these guys get paid. Very low compared to US standards. People in the US would not stand for that shit. So, my determination now is, if the price is lower for Koreans, now knowing what they get paid, I'm like OK. So now, I don't mind paying a little extra. Trust me, if you saw the numbers you would agree. Although I know some guys wont.
Take care everyone and thanks for the recent posts, hopefully we can get this board back up again as Hairy Wonder suggested. Unfortunetly, I will be on vacation for the next couple of months so, no new posts from me until summer. But after that, look out! Will move to Seoul and really get my groove on for a few years. ( I hope)
aloha,
Carmex
My question was would it be beneficial to learn the Korean language, e.i. would it help me get laid more.
Carmex
If you are tall, clean cut, and well dressed, this will be more to your advantage.
But, yes, learning Korean will allow you to talk to many people in their native language, therefore boosting your chances to "get laid more". They will appreciate the effort. Of course!
Then again, also consider you might find the truth about what they are really saying about you.
I find it more helpful to just play dumb, as if I know nothing of their culture.
Its easy for me~ haha
Carmex,
Had my first experience with the same person you mentioned in Itaewon. SHE WAS FANTASTIC!
It was just dumb luck I ended up with her.
Man, congrats. Yea, she was the same for me. Really changed my mind about Korean providers. Now the question is, do you go back to what you know is a good thing, or do you stike out and try find some new/better stuff? The thrill is always in the hunt, but damn do I hate to be disappointed.
So whats the story on how you ended up there?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Bad:
Stay away from Anma across from Lotte Hotel. Overpriced (haggled to 200,000won) and set me packing after the ladies saw my "package".
Hmmm, you must be packing! Don't feel bad, I had the same thing happen to me before but just I just took it in stride and moved on to the next place. There are so many Anmas in Korea, they can't all refuse you. Also the policy at some of these places depends a lot on who is on duty. You can be denied entry one day only to be allowed in the next day.
SoulCracker25
02-13-09, 12:03
how i ended up there. just pure dumb luck. i was up early one morning from a sleepless night so i figureded i check these scene at itaewon at around 5am ish. i was walking around and was on the side of the street whee every building i passsed by someone would peek their head out the door and motion me in. i didn't do it the first round because it caught me off guard. i walked back the same rows of buildings and walked into the first person that motioned me in (probably a newbie move).
as far as i can tell she was the only one in the building. i bought a beer and ended up paying for a 20, 000won drink. again, i was caught off guard so i probably made every newbie mistake. anyhow she looked fantastic and was super friendly. fast forwarding after the deed i hung out a bit and we chatted for about 20-25 minutes. she was actually really nice and did i mention looked friggin hot.
anyway as i said before just dumb luck. i read your post and nearly jumped out of my seat.
i hear itaewon has the lowest quality women but if they are anything like her you all have nothing to worry about.
oddly enough i can't remember the name of the club i met her at. i think it was called nymph.
man, congrats. yea, she was the same for me. really changed my mind about korean providers. now the question is, do you go back to what you know is a good thing, or do you stike out and try find some new/better stuff? the thrill is always in the hunt, but damn do i hate to be disappointed.
so whats the story on how you ended up there?
inquiring minds want to know.
60k won is a fair price,especially with the won/$ exchange rate now. With the exchange rate it is about $43. A year ago and that would have been equivalent to $65-$70. ABC Club has a couple of good girls. Cube Bar is a good place to hang out (no sex) for a couple of drinks and to look up and down the hill. It is 2/3 the way up on the right side. It opens at 8 or 9pm. After the military curfew (midnight Sun-Thursday; 3am on Fri and Sat) , many of the places service the Nigerian and African crowd. Also Itaewon Land ( a Jimjilbang) just re-opended at the very top. 7k during the day and 10k after 6pm. Very relaxing!
Thanks for the reply Taloha. I went back to The Hill last night and ended up in the same bar with Jina, this time without having to pay the 5,000 won for a drink for myself. Another great BBBJCIM at Eve Bar. I said it was halfway up The Hill in my last post but it's actually the first bar on the left.
I walked by ABC bar but it looked closed. Maybe the girl(s) were servicing someone at the time. Also, that Jimjilbang you mentioned looks like a swank joint, I need to check that out sometime!
Can anyone recommend which bars are good for non-pros/semi-pros in Itaewon? Some buddies of mine met a couple of hot Russian girls in Hard Rock Cafe, they said they were students but after seeing these girls that's hard to believe. I've been to Spy Bar multiple times because I've been told that Russian and Brasilian models hang out there but everytime I've gone ther it's been dead. There were a few hot Filipinas in Geckos tonight but there was a line of guys waiting to talk to them. I've been to Helios and wasn't impressed. So who can recommend the best bar in Itaewon for non pro pickups. I think Brain666 has posted about this before but that was a while back.
Internationman
02-14-09, 03:44
I'll be here for a bit, and was wondering where to find girls around here?
Thanks in advance
I've been to Helios and wasn't impressed. So who can recommend the best bar in Itaewon for non pro pickups. I think Brain666 has posted about this before but that was a while back.
I have the impression that Itaewon has some less night guests overall. I remember it was always week in the first weeks of a year, but this year it is some kind more less.
In the past Helios was one of the best potential pickup points - but as usual there were good and bad days and it’s all about you and the girl to 'click' (ha usually in life). I share your opinion that the situation in Helios for potential pickups has deteriorated, if not to say significantly deteriorated. I believe it's because they raised the price too much - now 10.000 Won entrance fee also for girls and reduced the possibility of getting a 3000 Won 0,5l beer or 15.000 Won 3l pitcher as in the past. This drives the girls away - especially the ones with lower budget and also the ones more open to an experience. Subsequently the guys frequent less too. I am also going way less frequent now and while from around 23:00h- 1:00h it was packed in the past, it's now probably around 60% of the people as before.
There were a few hot Filipinas in Geckos tonight but there was a line of guys waiting to talk to them.
It seems to me that Gecko's picked a lot of the crowd, which frequented Helios before. I recognize many known 'Helios' faces and of course subsequently the guys show up in higher numbers as well.
Gecko's has also a lot of foreign crowd, more white colored then black colored. Basically it is also a hang out/ meeting point for lots expat family members and their crowds. You can occasionally find an open-minded foreign teacher 'in search for some dick' (not obviously of course). But it is well known that due to the guys have it relatively easy with Korean girls, the single western females suffer and have drastically to reduce their high pride selfish standards they come in town with to just 'core needs' after some time here - so if you don't mind you could fulfill such core needs.
But also the girls who are open for pickup are there - but also don't show it so easy. And the guys seem to feel more hesitant to approach those girls, as they seem to feel uncomfortable with so many other foreigners around. Probably some don't want to be seen hunting and in Gecko's its also more risky to meet co worker’s, friends, foreign neighbors there etc.. At least that’s my 2 cts from the scenery.
The f/m ratio varies and there are good days/ hours with good number of females and rather low number of guys, but situation can change each hour from female dominated to a male dominated crowd. But in general Gecko’s is way more crowded now.
I've been to Spy Bar multiple times because I've been told that Russian and Brazilian models hang out there but every time I've gone there it's been dead.
Which time have you been there? I have to admit that I wasn't in SPY for more then 4 months now, but I recall that spy isn't crowded before at least 2:00h. Before its empty.
Can anyone recommend which bars are good for non-pros/semi-pros in Itaewon?
I am lacking good recommendation as well. Recently I had some good 'talks' (not all talks will necessarily bring success, but they can provide useful contacts for later) in B-one (around the corner from KFC at the Hamilton Hotel shopping mall). Other opportunities may be still JJMahoneys in Hyatt. I may need to revisit there.
The rest may just be occasions. I discovered that in the second alley are more new Bars now. I may check this more out.
It's good to know that the Hooker Hill is always a potential backup for releasing stress in case all efforts fail.
Regards and happy hunting
Brain666
Jack Rabbit,
No joy at the Imperial Palace anma. I walked down from the hotel to the intersection where the sushi restaurant is and saw an anma in a building diagonally across on the top floor. Walked up there but no foreigners allowed.
Tried to locate the anma near Ewha station but no luck. Is it on the main street or on one of the side streets?
Would like to ask the board to recommend any parlors or anmas which offer more than one girl. I have yet to find a good anma to report on.
I happened to venture into Itaewon last Saturday, and had to say that B1 had lots of people in there. Definitely a younger, smarter crowd then what you would normally find in Helios, Geckos, etc. so could be a good look for some freelancers.
Tried reading through the threads, but they get dated very quickly. I just want to know if there are any massage places in the Itaewon area, possible HJ, customer can be fully nude for oil massage, not really sex. I'm looking for a place more on the legit side, a good masseur, but with possibilities of extra. Does it exist, or maybe the Hannam area. I don't know Seoul very well.
BTW, did a girl who called herself Candy on Hooker hill, walking up on the left 1/2 way, last week. She had short hair and great attitude and everything else pretty good.
Before that, I had walked into ABC and was sitting down with some chick who I was planning on doing a transaction with. But, the Mamasan never shut up about anything, kept rambling on and on before I could even take a sip of my Scotch. Totally ruined the mood and I vanished quickly. No busines sense at all.
Randy,
You picked a good one. Candy is great. She has a little wear on her now days but still very good. Everything is on the menu with her. Straight sex, anal, threesomes with one of her friends. She hit me an a buddy up for a "special party" one time. She wanted to try a DP. Wild girl, although she'll usually quote a high price to start and you need to do a little negotiating.
Hit ABC myself last week. Mamasan has a Chinese girl working for her now. Girl works in the hotel across the street. Does incall. Good attitude, basic service, cheap, but average face and probably a 4 body, unless you're into thick farm girls.
Peace,
KORVET
Tried reading through the threads, but they get dated very quickly. I just want to know if there are any massage places in the Itaewon area, possible HJ, customer can be fully nude for oil massage, not really sex. I'm looking for a place more on the legit side, a good masseur, but with possibilities of extra. Does it exist, or maybe the Hannam area. I don't know Seoul very well.
BTW, did a girl who called herself Candy on Hooker hill, walking up on the left 1/2 way, last week. She had short hair and great attitude and everything else pretty good.
Before that, I had walked into ABC and was sitting down with some chick who I was planning on doing a transaction with. But, the Mamasan never shut up about anything, kept rambling on and on before I could even take a sip of my Scotch. Totally ruined the mood and I vanished quickly. No busines sense at all.
How much does Candy charge for anal?
Darren,
It varies. She always starts by asking some crazy high amount like 400K but she'll usually settle for about 200K (which isn't bad, considering the current exchange rate). That's for BBBJ, straight sex, and an anal round.
Candy isn't the only provider on the Hill for this. She's probably the best looking one though.
Enjoy,
KORVET
How much does Candy charge for anal?
Brain666- Perhaps I have gone to Spy Bar too early then, as it has always been before 2:00, but usually after midnight or so. I guess I will have to check it out again after 2am.
As for JJ's in the Hyatt, I've been there once before as well with a few buddies from work but none of us were dressed appropriately, as you really need to be in a suit and tie for that place. I will have to make it out there in the near future.
Dizz Hizz- I have been to B One once before and I got the impression that it's more of a place you take a date rather than find one, but I will have to give it another try as well.
Randy O- The Sporex in the Koreana Hotel sounds like what you're looking for; it's not in Itaewon but it's not too far away since it is near the City Hall subway exit. Just what you want, nude oil massage with the optional HJ finish, but it's quite pricy (90k won, plus the entrance fee). No idea if something like this exists in the Itaewon area, there's an aroma massage place on the right side of the main street as you walk towards Noksapyeong area, but I've never been.
Which bar does this Candy work at? May I ask how much she wanted for FS?
tried reading through the threads, but they get dated very quickly. i just want to know if there are any massage places in the itaewon area, possible hj, customer can be fully nude for oil massage, not really sex. i'm looking for a place more on the legit side, a good masseur, but with possibilities of extra. does it exist, or maybe the hannam area. i don't know seoul very well.
there are lots of legitimate massage places with just shorts as attire in seoul. one decent place is located next to the finance building in kwanghwamun up in the hotel ( i believe the new kukje hotel). they have the typical suana but with private rooms for massage. hj's are also available and you'll get one hell of a therapeutic beating in there. prices are about 90k.
there are lots of legitimate massage places with just shorts as attire in seoul. one decent place is located next to the finance building in kwanghwamun up in the hotel ( i believe the new kukje hotel). they have the typical suana but with private rooms for massage. hj's are also available and you'll get one hell of a therapeutic beating in there. prices are about 90k.
do you mind giving me some subway directions, say from sadang, samgaji or wherever, and anymore details. i'm pretty new here.
Randy O- The Sporex in the Koreana Hotel sounds like what you're looking for; it's not in Itaewon but it's not too far away since it is near the City Hall subway exit. Just what you want, nude oil massage with the optional HJ finish, but it's quite pricy (90k won, plus the entrance fee). No idea if something like this exists in the Itaewon area, there's an aroma massage place on the right side of the main street as you walk towards Noksapyeong area, but I've never been.
Which bar does this Candy work at? May I ask how much she wanted for FS?
Thanks! , Candy works at I belive a place called "The sex shop" She might have been joking though. I never checked. Walking up. it will be on the left, half way up. It's all I remember, sorry. I walked by twice, on tow different day, and each time she ran outside and smacked her ass. She DOES have a sense of humor.
(90k won, plus the entrance fee) ???????
Entrance fee? Please explain
Also, Noksapyeong ??? All I know is the intersection from the itaewon subway stop. You can walk the main road towards the direction of the Starbucks side (up) , or the other way. Help this idiot with directions, time is money.
How much does Candy charge for anal?
Not sure yet, but she seemed to purr and suck me harder while I fingered ass while she gave me BBBJ. I honestly think she digs it. I was pondering the suggestion at that moment. hahah
also, noksapyeong ??? all i know is the intersection from the itaewon subway stop. you can walk the main road towards the direction of the starbucks side (up) , or the other way. help this idiot with directions, time is money.
noksapyong is the subway station after itaewon station which is in front of the hamilton hotel in itaewon. if you walk from hamilton hotel (but stay on the hamilton hotel side) towards mcdonald's you will eventually run into noksapyong station. there is an aroma massage shop on the hamilton hotel side. you will see it before you reach noksapyong station. the aroma massage shop is on the 3rd floor of a women's clothing store but you won't get anything more than a good massage in there. in fact they won't even dim the lights in the room and they sometimes leave the doors to the rooms open just so you know not to expect or ask for any extras.
the bright lights can spoil the relaxing mood of a good therapeutic massage but they will place a towel over your eyes if you want. the girls are not anything special; actually one of the girls working in there has been there so long i almost didn’t recognize her the last time i was there because she had packed on a quite a few extra pounds. however, they are very friendly the aroma massage is excellent. the barber shop on the opposite side of the street near the subway sandwich shop (closer to itaewon station) will wash your feet and provide fs but the quality of the girls in that shop varies as they seem to come and go at will.
Ez,
Candy usually works at Rosy's.
Similar services are available next door at the Tiger Tavern (don't recall the chicks name - little spinner, mid-30s who usually works from midnight to 6AM), VIP (also forget the name....usually thinking about something else when I'm there - friend of Candy's who sometimes works with her and will do threesomes with her - mid-30s, large natural chest - 'least for a Korean - loves to slap her ass and say "you like HOT anal sex?" She works from midnight to 6AM too.) Anal can sometimes be had at the Cabin too - depends on who's working. There are other places like Madrid but the "girls" there, while post-op,used to have different plumbing...
Have fun and share the reports :) Always looking for new talent that are open to some backdoor action.
Peace,
KORVET
Brain666- Perhaps I have gone to Spy Bar too early then, as it has always been before 2:00, but usually after midnight or so. I guess I will have to check it out again after 2am.
As for JJ's in the Hyatt, I've been there once before as well with a few buddies from work but none of us were dressed appropriately, as you really need to be in a suit and tie for that place. I will have to make it out there in the near future.
Dizz Hizz- I have been to B One once before and I got the impression that it's more of a place you take a date rather than find one, but I will have to give it another try as well.
Randy O- The Sporex in the Koreana Hotel sounds like what you're looking for; it's not in Itaewon but it's not too far away since it is near the City Hall subway exit. Just what you want, nude oil massage with the optional HJ finish, but it's quite pricy (90k won, plus the entrance fee). No idea if something like this exists in the Itaewon area, there's an aroma massage place on the right side of the main street as you walk towards Noksapyeong area, but I've never been.
Which bar does this Candy work at? May I ask how much she wanted for FS?
Waykook Saram
02-21-09, 03:11
i had not been to miari in three years because i live on the other side of seoul but last night i decided to take nostalgic trip back to my old party grounds.
i went with three of my korean friends who had never been there before. we arrived around 9:00pm on a friday night. we went by taxi which was a mistake we should have taken the subway because the traffic was terrible. detailed directions are on this board but in short just go to kiruem yeok(station) on line 4.
it was dark but once we entered the were allot of madams waiting. when i walked in front we did not get approached so i made my friends walk in the font. we were speaking in korean so the madams starting approaching my friends. i am sure they were excited at the prospect of four customers.
we checked out three houses. all of them had six to ten girls in their customary prom dresses. each of the madams told us that she had the only shop that would accept foreigners. fun since all of them said the same thing. the other common thing is that they all keeps the curtain closed. this means you have to step into their shop and get the hard sell. the best way out is to tell them you just want to look around and then you will be back.
we saw one policeman who did not show any interest in us.
the third shop we checked out seemed to specialized in big breasts, our push-up bras given my experience in the past. it was cold and we wanted to get busy so we negotiated a rate of 70,000 per person. i picked a petite girl who looked like she had big breasts.
we all went up to our room and my girl told me to take off my clothes and then left the room. she came back quickly and naked and much to my sunrise she had c+ cups size breasts that we also nice and firm. she was only 155cm tall and thin so they made her breasts look huge.
she start right in with the cat bath and then to a bbj. not a gfe but she gave good head. she asked to put the condom on and told her to suck me for longer. once i was ready to move on to fs she asked about the condom again, i asked if we could do it without the condom but she insisted. i brought my own condoms since i hate the cheap condoms they used.
she was very tight but none of the usually complaining. she let me choose different positions and did not rush me. the fun part was that one of my friends finished his girl would yell out they were done and leaving their room. i was taking my time and enjoying my tight ride. she then asked me if i was still far away and i said yes. she then told me that all my friends were done and waiting. since it was cold out and we had plans for the evening i hurried up and finished.
when i left the tapped the door and the madam made sure the coast was clear before opening the drapes and the door.
Thanks to all previous contributors. This is my 1st time in Seoul and it helped to RTF first. I had two experiences on Saturday. Here I'll describe the 1st one.
I was looking for a previous reporter's (Smma0717) favorite place. He wrote:
"Basically I followed the old best know method to go to Seoul National University of Education station (subway station #223). The BBS is very close to the exit 1 with just few hundred metres." BTW: Exit # information is really helpful because the subway stations are huge w/ many exits.
Unfortunately I made a note to myself that just said "Seoul National University", which, as it turns out, is several subway stops before the "Seoul National University of Education" stop when travelling from where I was coming from. I got off at that wrong stop thinking it was right, but quickly found that there weren't any barber poles w/in 100 metres of Exit 1. So I figured Smma0717 was a lousy judge of distance and decided to keep walking til I found some. Good thing about Seoul is the BBS are freakin' EVERYWHERE.
For anyone interested in duplicating this trip, you use Exit 1 which puts you on Nambusunhwan-ro. Keep walking til you cross one major intersection (Nakseongdae-geuri) andf 1/2 way up the block on the R is a double barber pole. Across from a Golf shop. Although not the exact location Smma0717 was talking about, it had the same kind locals-only feeling. No Westerners anywhere in sight. This was about noon on a Sat.
I went down the stairs and was met at the desk by a woman, mid 30’s, pleasant looking, in a baby-doll dress with pink hearts on it. Slightly chunky but strong and firm. No English but it didn’t seem to matter. She took me to the room. I wasn’t sure if someone else would be servicing me, but it turned out she was solo at the time and did everything. The room was small but nicely appointed. Cove lighting in the ceiling. Comfortable mattress. I paid 60. I stripped and she hung my clothes up for me.
She spread a vinyl cover on the bed and put a towel over it before I lay down, so I figured moisture was going to figure into this somehow. I lay on my stomach and she did a preliminary massage to my neck back and legs. Then she covered me with a towel and left the room. She quickly returned with a bucket of hot towels and laid them all over my back and legs. Then some heavier hot layers on top of the 1st hot towels. Then she rolled up the edges of the vinyl sheet and closed them over my back. I was essentially roasting. It was hotter than I would normally enjoy but I went with the flow and let it work on me. After about 5 minutes she came back in and removed the layers. Then she put a mint-smelling cream/oil on my back and legs and proceeded to vigorously massage me including my ass crack.
Then she took me to the shower room and washed me all over. The shower room was large (maybe 8’x8’), very clean and had a urinal in it. She left me to towel myself off and came back and dried my feet and slid a pair of long boxers on me.
Back in the room she proceeded to give me an awesome massage, including standing on my back. She was strong! She also used a large electric massager on me extensively including my ass crack, which really felt good. She asked me to turn over and repeated the attention to my front. As she got closer to my crotch she began to run her hand over my personal equipment, outside the boxers, so I figured the final act was about the start.
Sure enough she slid the boxers off and leaned over to start a BBBJ. She continued this for 2-3 minutes til I was nice and hard. I was feeling her ass and thighs and she didn’t mind. Then she stood up removed her dress but kept bra and panties on. This was a bit of a disappointment but I was curious to see what she was going to do.
She then climbed up on top of me and put my arms around her. She leaned down onto me and slid her hand down to our mutual equipment areas. Now I do not know for sure what she did next with my rod, I assume it was an excellent HJ and not BBFS, but fellas I gotta tell ya, it felt EXACTLY like BBFS. She rocked up and back and moaned in my ear and I just carried on like I was bangin her. It felt great. I was squeezing her ass and slammin away. Within a couple minutes I let it loose and she didn’t rush to get off. Let me slowly pump until I came to a restful stop. Nice.
She turned away as she got up and I didn’t see what she did with her hands. So as far as I’m concerned I got a great faux-BBFS and left happy. She dressed me, which is very sweet, gave me a cool fruit juice drink and walked me to the door. All smiles.
Sometimes adventures are best to be improvised.
Hope no ISG members is on this list, another reminder of why you should not pay with your credit card in these places. Have to wonder why this one was busted out of all the hundreds of massage shops in Seoul.
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Prosecutors arrested co-owners of a well-known brothel in Seoul’s rich Gangnam area and a middleman who bribed a law enforcement officer to avoid police crackdown, Yonhap reported Saturday.
The Seoul Central District Prosecutors' Office issued warrants for the 40-year-old woman, identified as Cho, and her business partner, a 46-year-old woman, identified as Nam, as well as a 40-year-old Zhang, who had received tens of millions of won to “lobby” the police. Cho and Nam opened a massage parlor in downtown Seoul in February 2005, which in fact offered sex service to clients. In July last year, Nam tried to bribe a police officer when her business was exposed, by offering some 30 million won.
At that time, Zhang approached Nam, telling her that he will lobby the police, and subsequently received 65 million won from her. Nam was detained by the police, but was released soon. The authorities believe that the two co-owners of the brothel, famous among clients, earned more than 10 billion won during their four-year business operation. The authorities have secured a list of clients whose figure allegedly reaches hundreds. Prosecutors plan to summon the police officer who received the bribes and expand investigation to see whether other police officers are also involved.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2009/02/113_39990.html
I have to say that whenever I am offered a threesome, it usually ends up underwhelming if not a complete scam (except eden club in Thailand).
A month ago, I went to Itaewon and there was this middle aged woman with a nice rack who I agreed to (against my better judgement). she offered me a threesome with the other girl there and like a dumb ass, I said ok. turns out the other girl did a quick hand job, didn't take her top off and then I was stuck with the original woman who hurried me a long saying I got good price for threesome.
has anyone found a good one for a reasonable price? If not, I'm just gonna have to wait for Thailand again.
ehh, I had an ok threesome in Itewon last summer. Girl asked if I wanted to have her sister also, and again, like a dumbass I agreed. Think she just wanted more money ( from 100USD to 200USD). So I begin fucking the one girl and just when we finish her sister shows up. We ate dinner in the little hotel room, and I had round two with the sister. Not bad, but felt a little pressure and she started to complain a little about the time.
Still, I finished up with her and then had to get home. Overall, not bad considering it was a good three hours of service, but they didn't get involved with each other. Just sort of laid on the bed next to each other and fondled my balls while I had her sister.
More exhusting than anything, and I pulled my groin fucking number 2. Was in pain for a few days.
skip the threesome unless they agree to eat pussy. but then you have to change condoms between girls, etc. It gets to be a hassle after a while and not like in the movies or any of our fantasies.
Sfinil,
Threesomes are readily available in Itaewon (lotta anmas too) but the quality is pretty poor most of the time. Mississippi, VIP, Rosy, Cabin, Nymph, and a bunch of other places offer it but it's usually the old one chick does FS and the other gives u HJ or BJ scene.
That's not to say that u can't have a good time. Rosy's give fair service. Also there's a place cross from Mississipps - think SS or Joy - that's pretty good too. Nothing like Eden or even some good places in TJ but not bad for a change.
Cost will vary. Normally it's the cost of normal FS x2 (or however many chicks u want - most I ever did in Itaewon at once was four). Figure 100K won each. With the current exchange that's maybe $150 US total.
Have fun,
KORVET
I have to say that whenever I am offered a threesome, it usually ends up underwhelming if not a complete scam (except eden club in Thailand).
A month ago, I went to Itaewon and there was this middle aged woman with a nice rack who I agreed to (against my better judgement). she offered me a threesome with the other girl there and like a dumb ass, I said ok. turns out the other girl did a quick hand job, didn't take her top off and then I was stuck with the original woman who hurried me a long saying I got good price for threesome.
has anyone found a good one for a reasonable price? If not, I'm just gonna have to wait for Thailand again.
Wanted to try Cool because of the variety of talent reported to be there. On the Forum I had seen the following directions: “For those who can't be bothered to RTFF it's at Baeng Baeng Sagori in Gangnam halfway between Gangnam station and Yangjae station. If you are coming from Gangnam take a left after the prudential building and its on the right about 200 meters down.”
This sounded easy to remember so I didn’t even write it down. But, when I got to Gagnam station I misremembered the directions as being between there and Yeoksam station (both on the Green line), so I spent about an hour walking up and back in that part of town, which is a major corridor of office towers. There was no Prudential building so I went up into the neighborhood on the north side of the main street, which is quite active (this was 5-6 pm on a Monday) and full of shops and restaurants. I walked a lot of the side streets and asked several locals about “Belle” and “Cool” but no one knew about them. I eventually found what looked to be an upscale Amna called “Rex” (anybody been there?) and was considering taking the 220,000 won plunge when I figured I’d make a last try to ask someone. Two prosperous-looking businessmen were smoking outside the back door of one of the office buildings. One of them immediately got on his phone, called information, but couldn’t get a # for a massage place called Belle. He tried again for Cool and got a number. He called that number for me and wrote down directions for me to give to a cabbie. I found in general that Koreans don’t usually offer unsolicited help, but if you ask they are very generous.
The cabbie ultimately dropped me at the major intersection where the Prudential Building itself is, but fortunately I had seen the sign for Cool as we drove by it and walked back up one of the big streets to it. When I got there it looked like the entrance to a parking garage and I wasn’t sure it was the right “Cool”. So I walked back into the side streets area behind it and did see 2 other massage places. One called Superman Massage (anybody tried that?) and one next to it with barber poles but signage just in Korean. I figured these would be back-ups if I couldn’t find Cool or Belle.
Walking back to main street entrance where it said “Cool”, I opened an unimpressive looking door and found an ancient woman sleeping on a cot in what looked like a sex toy shop. That was a weird visual. So I quickly closed that door but figured I was vaguely on the right track. Venturing back into the enclosed parking area I saw a stairwell with a more impressive sign for Cool and went down. There is also a small elevator down to that level. Arriving at the bottom of the stairs I was in a tiny vestibule with 2 plain doors. One had a small sign on the wall next to it saying “Cool” so I opened that but it was a janitor’s closet. I was feeling pretty stupid by this point. With nothing to lose I opened the other door and lo and behold there was a small reception desk and 2 guys. I knew I had arrived. Stepping inside I saw video monitors so I’m sure they’d been watching this Anglo moron wandering around for a while. The bigger, older guy says to me: “First time?”. Well there was no faking that, so I just nodded and tried a smile. As I took my shoes off he explained “No sex” which I expected, but then said “No blow jobs”. I couldn’t believe I heard it right so I made sure and indeed BJ’s were off the menu. So I thanked them, and asked politely if they could tell me where Belle is. The older guy looked blankly at me, but thankfully the younger guy said yes and made a map for me. It was wrong as hell of course but at least he tried.
Out on the street again I followed his map which had Belle on the same side of the street and 1 ½ blocks further up, away from the corner with the Pru bldg. Well I checked every establishment thoroughly in that span and there was nothing that even hinted at massage. I headed back towards Cool figuring I’d ask the old broad in the sex shop (that was certain to be an adventure). Waiting to cross at a light I just happened to look across the main street to my left and, like a little beacon, there was the nice big sign for Belle. Pure luck I found it and no thanks to the un-cool dudes from Cool.
Went down the stairs and buzzed in. Was met by a nice young man and, 65K later, was taken to a small room with just a curtain for a door, He told me to change into a pink robe and wait. I thought the pink robe looked like something the girl should be wearing and figured this was just one more cruel cosmic joke on this day of mis-adventures. Anyway, did as I was told and he came back and took me to the shower room. He pointedly stressed that my room is #7 so I suppose some embarrassing re-entry mistakes have happened. The bathing room is fairly large and has 2 showers and a sink/vanity with combs and a hair dryer. I wondered if they ever send 2 guys in there at once. The shower itself was spacious and had a container of toothbrushes. I cleaned everything, dried off and went back to room #7 to wait.
I sat there on the massage bed for about 15 minutes, and the music they were playing (rather loudly, no doubt to cover customers’ vociferous pleasuring) was super-insipid US 70’s pop (e.g. Carpenters). I was trying to go with the flow but my mood was not improving. I was about ready to go to the desk in my pink robe and plastic sandals and ask “WTF”, when there was a knock and a lovely Korean girl entered wearing a loose silk nightgown and panties. I was pleased. Her name is “Chee – hey” (that’s phonetic spelling). She looked early 20’s (turned out to be 29, but looks younger). Small frame, long dark hair, A cups, pretty face, sweet smile, quite good English. She was very relaxed so I let that mood dissipate my earlier anxiety and looked forward to a pleasant time.
She began with the face-down, back and leg massage and, as others have reported, did that wonderful licking thing on my legs, knees, ass and hips. That is so sensuous. And that light tickling of the scrotum is so intense! I hoped for some AR but she didn’t offer and I didn’t ask. Flipping over she eventually worked up to a very soft and gentle BBBJ. Again, no hurry and I was just lying there watching and letting it feel good. There’s nothing like watching a pretty girl move her mouth up and down on your rod. You feel like the king of the world.
After a while she applied a little lube and moved up to the HJ phase, sliding her torso near me so I could feel and suck her sweet A cups. I have a mild fetish for FOB (feasting on breasts) and I was thoroughly enjoying this part of the session. I lasted as long as I could but when the time came I just let it go and urged her to pump it like crazy, which she did with enthusiasm. Whew, that was a good one.
She cleaned me up and, unlike other places in the world I’ve mongered, where as soon as you finish, that’s it and they’re outta there, she lay back down next to me and we just talked and touched intimately for about 20 minutes. Heavenly. I now regret not having asked her to kiss me, but it didn’t occur to me at the time. Don’t know if she would’ve but the vibe was right for it.
Anyway, got dressed and hugged her goodbye. Nice memory. We all have different tastes but I’d recommend Belle to anyone who thinks this sounds like fun.
Having read several reports on the Forum that included rimming, and having never had that pleasure, I decided to go in search of it. I followed one reporter’s directions to a place near Seoul National University of Education where he had gotten AR for 100K. Directions stated 100 metres from exit. Well 100 metres from exit is a single barber pole place that I discovered is just a hot bath place. That was embarrassing. But luckily there was a young Korean guy with excellent English who explained single vs double barber poles. He went on to recommend Anmas rather than BBS. Younger, prettier girls, more willing to rim, etc. He told me that near the Ramada there are several. He wrote directions for me to give to a cabbie. I thanked him and went back up to the street.
Having come this far I still wanted to check out the reporter’s recommendation in that neighborhood so I kept going up the street and indeed there was a double barber pole in another 100 metres. I went downstairs and met the woman receptionist, Wanting to make sure not to be disappointed I was explicit in what I was looking for, pointing to my tongue and to my ass. Hell, we all know what’s for sale here and there’s no shame in getting what you want, right? Well she definitely understood and said no, none of that there. Now that may just be the official line, and some girls may do it, but I figured why not be sure.
So back up to the street, into a cab, and showed him my directions. The guy had written Anma on the paper too and recommended I ask the cabbie because they often know which ones service westerners. This guy had no clue but let me off on the major street, directly across from the Ramada and pointed down a side street. Off I went. The first even smaller side street to my left had a big sign with the unmistakable Anma letters and a butterfly on it. Anybody know that one? Well they also made it clear that they don’t do AR. So I walked around until I found 2 more, the first of which immediately said no foreigners, and the second said no rimming.
Undaunted I crossed the major street over to the Ramada because I could see another Anma sign and figured this is a likely neighborhood. That one said no foreigners but I saw two more. Since the sign for one was in English “Queen” I figured at least I wouldn’t be turned away for ethnic reasons. Woman at the desk spoke no English but quickly got a very pretty young woman who spoke some, and seemed like she wanted to do business. I was explicit with my interests and even wrote them down in English and taught her the phrases. She was happy to learn the English and said no problem with the services. I was happy!
220,000 won later she led me up the elevator to a very nice room. Probably 15’15’ and very well appointed. Big shower with a vinyl-covered table for shower massage, and a sink and a toilet. Rest of room had the big massage bed with a full-width mirror on the wall next to it. Also had a long vanity with lots of stuff on it. Plenty of room to hang clothes. Nice lighting. I figured since I’d already locked in the service package that this was gonna be great.
The woman even asked me what body style I liked. Being turned off by heifers I said “slim” just to make sure. She smiled and said to take off my clothes and wait on the bed. I did so, but kept my boxers on. Within a minute there was a knock on the door and in walks a very slender, very young Korean girl in street clothes with long dark hair. She couldn’t have been much more than 18 or 19. I’d seen lots of girls looking just like her on the subways and I admit that turned me on. Her face wasn’t the prettiest but was certainly good enough, with that little rosebud mouth and dark eyes looking up at me. I felt a bit like a perv but hey, I’d get over it.
She sat down next to me and we quickly determined that she spoke only a tiny amount of English and I spoke absolutely no Korean. That would be ok though, I figured this is her job and she knew what the customer had ordered. Well, things didn’t go that way. She looked a little scornfully at me and asked ‘American?”. I nodded. Then she made a rude noise with her mouth (like a fart), poked me in the stomach and gestured like I had big man-boobs and a huge pot belly. Which I don’t by any means. At least not by US standards. This certainly didn’t put me “in the mood for love”. I frowned, said “insult”, pointed to the door and indicated I would leave. She didn’t understand, whipped out her cell phone, conjured up a little wireless Korean-to-English translation program and told me to type in what I was saying. So I started typing with my thumbs. The light in the room was low and I was going slow while I thought of the simplest phrase, and so she then says “How old you?” with a similarly scornful attitude, like not only am I fat I’m also too old for her technology. I didn’t answer, finished typing in “You insulted me” and handed it back to her, but the program couldn’t translate it. (Not a lot of call for that phrase in Gen Y Korea, I guess). I didn’t feel like pursuing this anymore and knew I wouldn’t enjoy this chick even if she rimmed me for an hour (well, maybe then). So I got up and walked towards my clothes. She quickly called the woman who was at the front desk, exchanged some quick Korean and handed me the phone. I said this girl had insulted me and rather than dig into the details she simply said “You want to change girl?” and I said yes, handing the phone back to little miss charming. She got the news, gave a pouty look, and headed for the door. As she turned in the hallway to close the door behind her she gave me an ever-so-slightly contrite look, said something low in Korean, and gently closed the door. I was annoyed and disappointed but glad the mamasan had dealt with it quickly and decisively. Maybe this chick didn’t want this gig anyway and was looking for a way out. Or maybe the new generation just isn’t into service like older Koreans. I was just glad she was gone and hoped for better luck with whatever was going to walk thru that door next.
Within a minute I had my answer and I wasn’t unhappy. Older (maybe mid-late 20’s) and heftier but not beefy. Nice face, much more service-oriented attitude, which was #1 on my wish list at the moment. Name is Ka-hee (phonetic). Her dress made it appear like she only had A cups, but when it came off out popped a nice pair of soft, feminine B’s with lovely nips. The whole bod was beautifully proportioned, trim and firm. And an awesome ass, which I believe is pretty rare. Good stuff.
Process was similar to many other of the Anma reports on the Forum. Started with great table shower (she gave special attention to my crack so I know she had gotten her rimming orders). She carefully dried me including crouching at my feet and drying individually between my toes. I got detailed. Then the massage with that incredible licking they do. Also, since her breasts were large enough, she gently dragged her nipples all over me. Slowly but surely she worked her way up to my ass and I just lay there knowing AR was in the deal and sure enough she parted the cheeks and went at it. Mmmmm. That is nice. I had read another report on the Forum where the guy said the girl licked his ass “like she owed me money”. So, that was my mental image going into this experience, thinking I would want it real hard and wet and aggressive, really slathering that bad boy. But the unhurried, gently probing way she did it created a whole array of refined and delicate sensations, so I’m glad she did it that way for my virgin experience. Now that I know what all the noise is about I’ll def be looking for more AR in my adventures.
The rest of the session was very good. She did all the other things I had requested with enthusiasm and I finished thoroughly drained. I had signed up for the blind massage afterwards and that was a good last act. I recommend it if you have the time (about 45 minutes). After the blind masseur left the reception woman re-entered and asked if I wanted to stay and sleep. That would’ve been mellow but I declined and got dressed. She waited outside the room for me and escorted me to the exit. I let her know how much I appreciated her changing girls for me and she was gracious. In general I believe the Koreans do not like conflict and will do whatever is necessary to smooth over an uncomfortable situation. So it worked out well for all parties.
You can find the Anma “Queen” within ½ a block west of the Ramada on one of the side streets that run parallel to the main street the Ramada is on. Sign has a playing card and the word Queen in English.
based on numerous forum reports and recommendations for the glass houses, i went there twice during my recent brief stay in seoul. as reported, it’s super easy to find, within steps of the #10 exit at gireum station. just walk through the hanging colored ropes on your right. my two visits were at different times of day and as a result i had somewhat different experiences. this report is about the first one.
it was on a saturday about 5pm. this rld is in a bit of a fringe area and i was glad i’d arrived during daylight the first time i went. even before dark it does look a little blade runner-y once you step in. gloomy narrow walkways between shabby 2 and 3 story buildings with blacked-out glass sliding doors every 25 feet or so and little groups of plastic lawn chairs huddled outside. some had makeshift plastic-sheeting shelters built around the doors and portable heaters to keep the mamasans warm. from rtf i expected to have to go far into the complex to find a western-friendly establishment, but i was accosted almost immediately by an older woman, pulling on my arm and insisting i come with her. taking the forum advice not to bite on the first one i shook her off and stepped away, being polite but firm in my no thank you. three steps later i was encountered by another mamasan, and since she had clearly seen my previous successful brush-off, she literally body-wrapped me around the midsection with her surprisingly strong arms and herded me around a corner and about 30 feet up a side alley to her door. somehow she managed to slide the glass door open without loosening her linebacker grip on me and brought me through heavy dark curtains into a brightly lit, spotlessly clean room with white walls and tile floors, furnished like a studio apartment living room including a big color tv going and two little white dogs happy in their fleece doggie beds. it was literally like stepping through a plane into a completely different world. there was only one girl. she was sitting on the floor in street clothes and gave me a very nice smile. about 25, pleasant face and an appealingly curvy bod, a little chunky but not at all bad. i figured, what the hell, i’m here, let’s do this thing. i nodded to the mamasan and smiled back at the girl.
there is a tiny area to stand on inside the door that is a few inches below the rest of the main floor level, and i realized i needed to take off my shoes before going any further in. that done, the mamasan helped me get my overcoat off and, pointing to the girl, who was now standing next to me, held up 7 fingers. that sounded like the going price i had read about (70,000 won) so i peeled off seven 10k notes and handed her the stack. she recounted and nodded to the girl who took my hand and led me upstairs. looking down into the room as i went up the stairs i marveled at the incredible contrast to the outside and realized, man, i was in a really different part of the world.
the 2d floor room was small but tidy and the bed was comfortable. this experience is not about massage and a lingering gfe, but just about getting down to the business of getting you off and getting you out. which was fine with me, because i knew what to expect. she stripped quickly and nodded for me to do the same. once on the bed together she went to work with a bbbj, looking up at occasionally but mostly focused on getting me hard. after a short while she stopped and looked up at me as if to say “ready for phase 2?”. i was enjoying the blow job and was curious what else she’d do so i pointed down at my sac and made a licking motion. she went right to work with long slow licking on my sac then back to the bbbj. next time she took a break i motioned towards my brown eye and made the same licking motion, but she immediately shook her head. well, we’d established the oral dmz!
reaching over to squeeze her nice firm breasts i pulled her towards me for some nipple feasting. she cooperated fully and made some nice little moans while i had my way with her pencil tips. this was turning me on and i lay back and motioned for her to mount-up cowgirl. she produced a condom and held it out for a moment with a questioning look. i’m guessing bbfs was on the menu but i nodded and she quickly had me covered. she applied a bit of lube to her slot, then was up top and sliding me in. from there on it was show-time. not exactly “mechanical” but well practiced and professional. appropriate moans and changes of speed and rhythm, not designed for her pleasure but to get me hot and off asap. i must admit it felt damn good. i was squeezing her boobs pretty hard and twisting her nipples and she didn’t flinch. lasted as long as i could then let it rip, using her tits as handles to slam her torso down onto my upthrusts.
when i was done, she didn’t hop off immediately, but stayed on me for a while gently rocking, and leaning over me rubbing my chest and shoulders. it wasn’t for a long time but it was a nice touch. after that she pulled off, reached over and got some tissue and removed the condom, wiping me a little too. i lay still and smiled up at her, curious to see what more she might do, if anything. but it appeared that the standard glass house experience was now over. we each dressed and she walked me back down the stairs. mamasan stuck her head out the door to make sure the coast was clear while i put my shoes back on. not sure what she was looking for but appreciated her caution. she held open the curtain and nodded me out into the dark alley. there wasn’t a soul visible in either direction, so i strode back towards the ropes and out onto the street. was in a warm subway car within minutes, still feeling the afterglow. figured every korean in the subway car knew exactly what i’d been doing in gireum, but hey, that’s why it’s there, right?
since my first time had been about 5pm and forum reports say it doesn’t get really going til later i made my 2d glass house visit on a monday night about 11:30pm. and it was a very different world!
first off, whereas last time i’d been sober as a judge, this time i was at least 2 out of 3 sheets to the wind. i’d been to dinner at a cozy little place in insadong where the proprietress had enjoyed getting me smashed on this fizzy white saki-tasting alcoholic drink she kept refilling for me. and that was on top of the 24oz beers i was swilling down to cut the burn of the kimchi. so by the time i bounded up to the top of the gireum exit 10 subway stairs the way you do when you’re seriously buzzed and think you’re all-powerful, my head was whirling. then wham, i see 2 uniformed cops standing at the rld entrance, eating. having seen enough chatter on the forum about rld shakedowns i got my stride under control and just kept right on walking briskly by like i had absolutely no interest at all in banging wet korean pussy, and was just another average anglo tourist looking for a museum, yeah that’s it, in a shady part of town, close to midnight. of course the cops paid me no mind whatsoever and were probably amused that i bothered to try to act nonchalant. but having walked by those first ropes i kept passing additional roped entranceways with mamasans huddled in small groups. there must have been 5 before i reached an intersection with a small side street. “this place is huge” was all i could think. preferring to hunt my own snatch rather than get shang-hai’d by a mamasan into her lair like my 1st time, i turned right down the side street hoping to cut into the complex a back way. and indeed there was an unguarded entrance a short way down, angling in to the right.
this time there were a lot more active rooms with people milling around and small groups of convivial korean guys peering in and talking animatedly with mamasans. several mamasans i first passed had no interest in offering me an invite to their inner sanctums, but i had read on here to expect that, and kept walking deeper. soon enough one stood up to cut me off and i stopped, nodded respectfully, and waited to see what happens next. she eyed me warily for a moment, then said sternly “seventy. one time”, holding a single gnarly finger in the air. i nodded soberly as if this was god’s law being passed down, and drunk as i was, laughed to myself that this was like being in some really cheesy b movie. then she knocked twice, very sharply on the glass door, which was unexpected and snapped me to a startled attention. wtf was that about? all business now, she pulled aside the blackened glass door, motioned me to step right up the heavy dark curtain in the open doorway, and pulled it fully aside. i was completely unprepared for what i beheld.
the room was similarly sized to the one i’d been in before and just as brightly lit and sparkling clean. but instead of a department store 5 piece living room set spread across the floor, there was a wall-to-wall array of living dolls, heavily made-up with pale white skin and jet black hair, sitting totally erect on the floor in matching white gowns, the full skirts flowing together in a soft mass, and all staring, motionless directly into my eyes. i was spellbound. it’s a visual i will never forget as long as i live.
the mamasan started speaking, which somewhat broke the spell but i was still utterly entranced with this scene. she began waving her arm at the girls and speaking rapidly, i imagine exhorting their beauty and urging me to pick one. i would have liked to but they were too surreal to judge by any standards or methods i could muster. all i could do was marvel at the amazing range of human experience going on on this planet. wtf had i stepped into?
probably only a total of 5 seconds had really gone by, but it seemed like time had stood still while i absorbed this tableau. reminding myself that i came to gireum to find the hottest chick i could for straight-up sex, and realizing that if this was just the first glass house there would be many more to choose from, i started scanning the faces for a stunner that would make it easy to say yes right then and there. hard to tell for real because of all the theatrical trappings, but out of about ten girls on the floor there were, on closer scrutiny only a couple of 7’s-8’s, and i believed a hotter honey was somewhere in the complex. and besides i wanted to see more examples of this pageantry. so i said no thank you, bowed respectfully and set out in search of more anglo-tolerant houses.
i heard the door slide closed behind me as i set out deeper into the alleys. i was invited to peer into about 15 different houses over the next 20 minutes and covered a large portion of the complex. it became addicting to keep going and look into another one, then another one. some had white gowns with blazing red tops. some had black gowns and all i could think of was morticia addams. some were all hefty. most houses were far less disciplined than that first one where all the girls were perfectly erect, absolutely silent and totally still. some mamsans didn’t even knock first, just opened up and let me look into a clumsy scramble of girls trying half-heartedly to get into formation. it was comical. all the while i was keeping an increasingly keen eye out for a stunner that i could feel was worth the hunt. but the best were only ok, and i always wanted better. finally, when i believed i had been shown every car on the lot, i figured it was time to retrace my steps and see if the consistent 70k price would start getting discounted as several forum reports indicated. also it was about midnight and i was aware that the subway closes at 1am. i didn’t want to be stuck looking for a cab around there.
heading back up towards the main street i had in mind a slightly heavy girl with a pretty face that had smiled at me very sweetly in one of the last houses i’d stopped at. i’d do her i decided. nice big korean boobs to feast on and an attitude to please. well, drunk as i was, finding that house and that girl when the alleys and houses and mamasans and wedding dresses all look pretty much the same was harder than i thought. first one i went back to, nah, that wasn’t it. second one, nah. now i was getting frustrated and was thinking i’d have to re-check every bloody one when the sweet voice of commerce intervened. from up the alley i see a mamasan motioning to me and hear the phrase “sixty for you”. now the discounting had begun. opening her door for me i honestly couldn’t be sure if i’d seen this bunch already or not. it was all pretty much of a booze-addled wedding dress blur by now. but here i was looking at 3 brides, all very young, all kinda hefty, but none unattractive, so i fell to the lure of low price and pointed to the one with the biggest hooters. how’s that for the "largest common denominator"?
60k later i was in the room with her and she was out of that dress in a flash. my god she had melons! i stripped, laid back and enjoyed watching her vigorously bbbj me until i was ready for a cowgirl poke-and-feast. she offered me an option of bbfs or condom, and i truly believe she was indifferent. big head prevailed but a good time was still had by all and i feasted to my hearts content on those beaudacious gozangas before pumping out.
having also done bbs and anma on my trip (see other reports), i have to say that the glass houses are a great value for straight-up sex and otherworldly imagery.
Easy Thaiger
02-28-09, 18:44
Sfinil,
Threesomes are readily available in Itaewon (lotta anmas too) but the quality is pretty poor most of the time. Mississippi, VIP, Rosy, Cabin, Nymph, and a bunch of other places offer it but it's usually the old one chick does FS and the other gives u HJ or BJ scene.
That's not to say that u can't have a good time. Rosy's give fair service. Also there's a place cross from Mississipps - think SS or Joy - that's pretty good too. Nothing like Eden or even some good places in TJ but not bad for a change.
Cost will vary. Normally it's the cost of normal FS x2 (or however many chicks u want - most I ever did in Itaewon at once was four). Figure 100K won each. With the current exchange that's maybe $150 US total.
Have fun,
KORVETWon rate is 1530 to the dollar, so it would actually be about 70 dollars total.
Easy Thaiger
02-28-09, 23:36
Are Koreans racist? Well yes to some degree but this is quite common throughout Asia. If you go to Japan for example, there will be establishments that take only Japanese customers. The lower end establishments will take anyone but this is quite common.
I mean hey there are golf clubs in the USA that are only open to men or caucasian men--but you don't hear people whining about that right.There sure was whining about it, that's why it doesn't happen anymore. In fact there are heritage months, college funds, associations, and all kinds of special treatment for you in the U.S. if you are not white.
Easy Thaiger
02-28-09, 23:53
BTW, did a girl who called herself Candy on Hooker hill, walking up on the left 1/2 way, last week. She had short hair and great attitude and everything else pretty good.
I've had her too as wel. I believe i paid around 70 for BBBJ, then negotiated 30 more for CFS, but being drunk I asked for anal and she actually obliged for 50k more I believe it was. 150k all in for just about everything. Much better than any 115/120 half ass massage from a cold fish. Also BBBJCIM after covered anal.
Trooper
I'm staying at the Ibis hotel in kangnam this week so I thought I'd try the local DDBs. There's a full row of them in the small street that starts just opposite the hotel right of the SK gas station. There's 3-4 massage sign near the ibis hotel / posco building, then more on the same street, in front of the intercontinental.
For starters I tried the 1st one in the street, that says massage in korean and japanese. Small place on the 3rd floor. A friendly guy waved me in and took me to a small room with a massage bed. It was 4 on a sunday afternoon so there didnt seem to be other customers. A few minutes later a girl comes by and shows me the prices. 100k won for massage + handjob. No sex on the menu, which she makes sure I understand. (kind of amusing).
Girl herself was late 20s, bit chubby, I'd say 6 body, 7 face. Spoke no english whatsoever so we made do with my broken korean. Not the best deal ever I thought but her face was kinda cute so I agreed.
She asked me if I wanted a jimjjil massage which I agreed to. Massage was quite good, just short of a true professional performance. 1st an oil massage on back and legs, foot wash and massage, then she covered me with about two dozen scalding hot, wet towels, which felt very nice at first cause I was cold, but then started to burn a little on the back of my legs. She left me under there for about 10 minutes, time to break a good sweat then climbed up to straddle me and first continued the back massage then started walking on my back and legs. I had just execised quite vigorously so that part did wonders.
After that she removed the towels, made me roll over, and on to the handjob, which was quite average with maybe too much lotion and a very detached professional attitude. My hands were free to roam and explore down her back and between her legs, but she kept her boobs covered and made it clear they were off limits. So massage 8 handjob 6.
I'll try Cool tomorrow, and then maybe an anma or another local massage place. If anybody is in seoul this weeks and wants to share some kalbi and k-gals, PM me.
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Lysander54
03-01-09, 15:42
Having read Wild Wind's post I thought I would give Queen a try. Since I could see it from my hotel room at the Renaissance. Figured I would try my luck and hope for a good experience, it’s Sunday and it looked empty. For those that don't RTFF it is down a narrow one-way street near the 7-11 next to the Renaissance Hotel. Yea it’s a Marriott. It's a nice place and as Wild Wind stated it has a playing card on its sign with the English word "Queen".
Anyway. I went inside, changed out my shoes for slippers and went to the desk. The young guy at the desk never saw me until I tapped on the counter; he then called for a woman who was in the side office. The woman from the side office was very nice spoke great English and looked great btw! She looked me up and down and said 220k, not unexpected or course. I verified that it included the massage and all of the "expected" services, to which she said "yes". The young guy at the desk escorted me to the elevator and up we went to the second floor. In the room (remember to take off your slippers upon stepping up to the next level of the room) he gave a robe (more of a hospital gown, for people like myself taller then 6'0 your junk will hang out the bottom) asked me if I would like a drink (Green Tea, Coffee, water or Gatorade) and then told me to change and wait.
After about 5 minutes or so the nice woman from the front desk knocked on the door and asked me if it was okay to have the massage first. It was not what I really wanted before the deed, but hey I am easy, so the blind masseuse came and did a pretty good massage. She finished, thanked me; I think (she spoke no English) and left.
After another 5 minutes the woman from the front desk came in and asked if I could wait a few minutes for a girl to come. Maybe they where busier then they looked. Or they couldn't find a girl to take the white guy. Regardless, after about 1/2 hour of waiting in the room a very perky girl came in, very thin but overall pretty good looking. She spoke extremely fast and very little English but was pleasant enough. She stripped down and she gave me a face massage, a shave (is that normal? ) and a face mask, it was all quite nice. After that she showered me down and brought me back to the bed. She lubed herself up and did this cool sliding thing up and down my body, she then did the cat cleaning and worked up the soldier. She slipped on a cover during her BJ and tried to ride the cowboy a few times, but I guess I was too big. I get that a lot. LOL! She gave up apologizing and she sucked and jerked me off for about 15 minutes until I popped. She cleaned me up, dressed me rather quickly, hugged me and showed me out.
All in all it wasn't bad. I think if I had the massage 2nd I would have felt better and not as rushed. Not getting real FS, let alone not to completion was also disappointing. I would recommend Queen only because it's close to where I usually stay. Will I try it again. Yea probably. Would I go else where. Yes if there was another place as close. Any suggestions?
Thanks for reading and happy mongering!
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Hi there,
Just read TFF but it seems that all anma's are not located in a decent hotel? Most descriptions here contain directions to area/ metro station such and so, except one, the anma in the Imperial Palace. However, the Imperial Palace turns out to be far away from town (10KM as it says on the Asiarooms website description).
I'm actually not that confident 'shopping around', particularly since the language seems to be an issue. Also staying 10 KM out of town doesn't really appeal to me. Yet, especially after reading anmadudes report, I am definitely going to try to find a top-class anma.
No one has info on a top-class anma in a decent hotel in town somewhere?
Thx!
Won rate is 1530 to the dollar, so it would actually be about 70 dollars total.
Easy,
Actually about 1570 to the dollar today, but that's neither here nor there. The 100KW is per girl - not total. 100Kx2 girls = 200K total.
KORVET
Guys, was in Itewon this weekend (and pyongtek and songton). Walked around and tried to find a provider for a quicky about 6pm Saturday night. No luck so tried some regular bars for foriegner: Geckos, Helios, Reggae Club. All with similar results, so I tried the old Hooker Hill. Starting from the bottom to the top, I was approached within 50 feet, first little bar on the left.
"You come inside, come, come" So inside I went and only two girls there. About 5-6 scale, but one young one. Had a drink, bought one LD which she downed immediately and asked for another. So down to business and she asked for 220W! I laughed and told her 100. She then called me cheap charlie. So we compromised on 150. Ahh the games we play.
Went to a covered portion of the bar and sat on a couch and pulled the curtain. Pretty good BBBJ, and condom on and on to the sex. I asked "here?" No bed, no room? She took off her dress and started with RCG. I at this point just said fuck it, and went mish. Then doggy and then back to mish to finish. Was not bad, but I mean WTF? 150 and doing it on a couch? Maybe I am getting old and want a bed and a room.
So, I think I am done with Hooker Hill. I kind of like the An Ma and still have to try out 588 and 417. Need the massage and bath and all that. This chick just got out some baby wipes and washed my dick and herself with two cloths and that was it. I was all sweaty from walking around, not good!
With the won the way it is right now, I could care less about foriegner prices.
Met a 29 yold girl in Gekos last night a 100% Korean citicen raised in south america in Paragay and speaks perfect spanish. Had a few drinks and then we went to my apartment. Picutes to follow.
Kimchi Warrior
03-04-09, 04:00
Guys, was in Itewon this weekend. So, I think I am done with Hooker Hill.LOL; sorry Mate, but you made me laugh with this one because of your previous comment to the effect of "do you stick with a good thing" or go for the strange. I've lived and mongered in Seoul for 15 years. Repeatedly having sworn off the ' ville, I always end up going back. The reason is simple. Notwithstanding the grass is greener syndrome, I always end up finding someone in the "Won" who's so far above the norm (there and across the board), that I end up working out a regular gig and sticking with it to avoid both the bullshit haggling and the uncertain outcomes of exploring new venues. BTW, my current regular is the inimitable Soo-Ae. Surprised you didn't tap that again on your latest visit. Maybe we should hook up for a tage team match with her. I think she'd be up for it.
Kimchi Warrior
03-05-09, 00:13
No one has info on a top-class anma in a decent hotel in town somewhere?
Thx!The Imperial is not 10K out of town. It may be 10K from the old CBD north of the river, but it is right in the center of the city south of the river, between Apkujongdong/Chungdam-dong and the new southern CBD a litle further south.
An alternative in the heart of the old CBD, north of the river, may be the Koreana on Sejong-no. Its sauna at any rate used to offer the standard rub and tug - although the facilities were a little passed their use-by-date the last time I saw them (they may have been renovated recently), and the talent simialrly cannot compare with what's on offer in the Gangnma anma joints.
I went to a BBS last night, near the Seoul National University station on the green line. I can't remember the station exit but when you exit the station you want to walk to an intersection going towards Soongsil University, away from SNU. Then, make a left at the intersection and this BBS is not too far away, next to a Stay 7 Serviced Residence. Directly across the street is a bar called All That Beer, if this helps anyone find it.
The price was 80k (around $50 USD currently) and I got a massage and FS from a woman around 30 or so. She started with a foot bath and then gave a decent massage. She put some hot towels on me too. Then FS, but there wasn't room on the little massage bed for more than mish and doggie.
Overall, it was an interesting, new experience for me. Not sure if I would go back but it's nice to know they are foreigner friendly, although at least a little Korean is required I think, as the papasan who opened the door didn't seem to speak any English, and all the girl seemed to know was "handsum man". But with the exchange rate, it's not that expensive in dollars.
I will keep sticking my head (pun intended) in BBSs around the city and see what else I can find.
LOL; sorry Mate, but you made me laugh with this one because of your previous comment to the effect of "do you stick with a good thing" or go for the strange. I've lived and mongered in Seoul for 15 years. Repeatedly having sworn off the ' ville, I always end up going back. The reason is simple. Notwithstanding the grass is greener syndrome, I always end up finding someone in the "Won" who's so far above the norm (there and across the board), that I end up working out a regular gig and sticking with it to avoid both the bullshit haggling and the uncertain outcomes of exploring new venues. BTW, my current regular is the inimitable Soo-Ae. Surprised you didn't tap that again on your latest visit. Maybe we should hook up for a tage team match with her. I think she'd be up for it.
Well, I don't know quite what to say to that. As it stands right now, I did walk by the previous venue, but the door did not automatically open when I did so I just kept on walking. Ending up of course in shitheadville, Korea. As for the double up, hmmm, maybe. Interesting. I usually only do that with a couple of close buddies, but Soo-Ae is super fine, and a great fuck at that. In fact, the only Korean I would repeat.
PM me kimchee W. as I will be in Seoul sat. night and would make it worth her while. This could be good.
Kimchi Warrior
03-06-09, 00:19
PM me kimchee W. As I will be in Seoul sat. Night and would make it worth her while. This could be good.Carmex: Your note motivated me to take out a paid subscription (in order to PM) but it may not be activated for 24 hours; hence this message. If I can't PM you beforehand, why don't we meet for coffee Saturday afternoon. I'll be at the Starbucks nearest Yonsei Univ. On the main drag in Sinchon that runs between Yonsei main gate and Sinchon Station after 2:30. (In the gym across the street before that).
Anyone have any experience with calling a girl to come over to your place? I'm looking for a good (and possibly cheap) outcall option for the Gangnam area. I don't want to spend more than 200,000, but I'd really like to spend about 150,000.
Any thoughts?
Go get her at Geckos or Helios, she is a free lancer because she needs money to fly to Paraguay and then Brazil. Educated and a great provider only with comdom. 300 WON for and overnightner.
I will be in Seoul March 18 through the 25th.
Anyone in town those days/nights that would like to explore the scene?
Nothing new to report. Just another good night in Itaewon. I usually go on Wednesday nights around 10:00, so not always the best choices, but I also notice that they usually try hard because it's probably slow and maybe they have to try harder because they're not top notch. Either way, I went up the side street of hooker hill (by the way is there a name for that street with all the clubs there? I thought THAT was hooker hill, but now I think it's the main street with "What The Book" on it. Anyway,
Met up with a girl about 2/3 of the way up the hill on the left. There's a building with a few bars in it and it's the second door from the top near the top corner of the building on the left. I wish I could remember the name, but I can't. I wish I could remember HER name, but I can't. So this really isn't helpful.
But she was short, had a really big ass, short hair, glasses. Kind of an alternative look a little. Either way, if you ever notice her, try her out. She ABSOLUTELY thinks it's her job to do what you want her to do. That includes taking it as hard as I can give it to her and deep throat my dick. I've done her twice and even though she is not the prettiest, her personality and dkill is amazing. And with her HUGE ass, it was like pounding a pillow. I was on a bouncy ride and I held on as long as I could.
100, 000, 60 minutes
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Met up with a girl about 2/3 of the way up the hill on the left. There's a building with a few bars in it and it's the second door from the top near the top corner of the building on the left. I wish I could remember the name, but I can't. I wish I could remember HER name, but I can't. So this really isn't helpful.
But she was short, had a really big ass, short hair, glasses. Kind of an alternative look a little. Either way, if you ever notice her, try her out. She ABSOLUTELY thinks it's her job to do what you want her to do. That includes taking it as hard as I can give it to her and deep throat my dick. I've done her twice and even though she is not the prettiest, her personality and dkill is amazing. And with her HUGE ass, it was like pounding a pillow. I was on a bouncy ride and I held on as long as I could.
100, 000, 60 minutesFor what it's worth, I'm pretty sure you're talking about Bean or Bin (that's what she called herself when I met her). Short, short hair, sometimes wears glasses. She has a tattoo around her navel. She works in the bar next to ABC Bar, but I've forgotten the name of the bar. (Bridge, maybe?)
Hey Everyone,
I just came to Seoul about a week ago. I'm from the states and speak decent korean (enough to get around). I am currently staying in MokDong and was wondering if any of you have mongered around these parts? If you have, let me know. Would love to give a few a try and report back.
Thanks
For what it's worth, I'm pretty sure you're talking about Bean or Bin (that's what she called herself when I met her). Short, short hair, sometimes wears glasses. She has a tattoo around her navel. She works in the bar next to ABC Bar, but I've forgotten the name of the bar. (Bridge, maybe?)That's her. And I think her bard DID start with a 'B'. Did you try her out? Anyone else had a good experience with this girl?
By the way, anyone else have any CURRENT favorites in Itaewon right now. I don't think this is a good question to RTF. I don't know what kind of turnover there is in Itaewon, but if someone had a good experience in 2007, I can't imagine that helps. Who do you recommend in Itaewon these days? I recommend this Bin or Bean girl.
Kimchi Warrior
03-10-09, 00:46
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By the way, anyone else have any CURRENT favorites in Itaewon right now. I don't think this is a good question to RTF. I don't know what kind of turnover there is in Itaewon, but if someone had a good experience in 2007, I can't imagine that helps. Who do you recommend in Itaewon these days? I recommend this Bin or Bean girl.Soo-Ae @ Peach Phuzz (pink sign straight up the Hill from Itaewon High Street on the right, near the top about 20 yards below the small parking lot and above the clutch of tranny bars) is the current cream of the crop. Not for bargain hunters, but this relatively high-priced spread is more than worth the premium. A great fuck and a winning personality.
BTW, watch for an influx of new talent as the recession sets in. I've already noticed some new faces, mostly just tending bar, so far, who've shown up after having lost their jobs in the above-ground economy. Based on past experience (i.e., the aftermath of the '97 financial crisis) there will be a lot more choices in the near future, and they will be fresher and less aggressively avaricious than the usual passed their use-by-date veteran mattress backs in the 'ville.
Azure Knight
03-10-09, 07:09
Hey Korea Mongers, I'm a Japan-based monger who is coming to Korea next week on business. I'll have about a day to myself. So here's my question. I've been RTFF but many of the posts are very dated.
If it comes down to it I'll go to Itaewon or one of the other areas mentioned here already, but I'd much rather have a freebie. The only problem is that my one day to myself will be Sunday - so I'm thinking not much of a nightclub scene. Do you guys know of any way I can meet up with a girl for just a day?
Also, I'm African-American, if that factors into my mongering experience at all. Thanks, and sorry if I am asking something repetitive.
A couple of standbys:
Candy - Rosy's - threesome and anal friendly - great body and attitude - can be a gold digger if u let her
Miya - Used to be at Fantasy, now across the alley - ok with threesomes but lackluster, ok with anal play but reluctant for much more, best bbbjcim in Itaewon - never more than 80K for FS; best bang for buck in town
Mandy - VIP (sometimes Rosys too) - will do threesomes w/Candy - anal friendly - good body and face but, like Candy, can come across like a shark if u don't know her...likes to be spanked
Ambrosia chick - don't know named but must have done her a dozen times - think she's the only one there. Works alone - into anal play - never tested the waters to completion though. Always good for multiple pops. Usually <100K - great attitude, good body, good value.
Soo Ae (sp) - Peach Fuzz chick - high energy chick; she offered anal once but we never got to it...drained in 10 minutes (which is pretty unusual 4 me). Recommended....but.....not in my regular rotation....too hard to keep up with her :)
Cabin Mamasan- ok...I know she's like 48 and 25 lbs overweight - a great MILF experience though. Good bj skills, very energetic fs, reluctant but will do anal if she knows u - wild time....cries and shakes but keeps telling u to hit it harder. Looks = 3.5, attitude = 10.5....but a big time shark in the bar...will suck u for everything if she can...away is open to multiple pops; hit it as a freebie several times.
Joy (or maybe SS) - tall, thin, model looking chick...think she's the only one there regularly (although she'll call in a random partnet if u want a threesome). About 100-120K - trophy chick - good quality, great looks, never tried anal but would like to...just never get around to it - FS distracts me... :)
Texas chick relativley tall, thin spinner - works late night (think she's the only one after midnight). Good looks - 10+ attitude. Never asked about threesomes but girl is hard into anal and ATM. A little pricey - usually pay 300K for two pops, including anal and bbbjcim to finish the show.
Look forward to everyone else's favorites.
Peace,
KORVET
Henry Sugar
03-10-09, 17:16
First report; least I can do in return for all the valuable information I've gotten from this board.
Found myself in Seoul for a couple of days for the first time ever and decided to check out the talent while I was in town. I saw Schaf29's report on his Anma experience around Seolleung station and figured it was close enough to my hotel (just 1 stop) that I should give it a whirl.
Made it to Seolleung station, found Exit 10 without trouble and followed directions to the alleyway. But no sign of a Call Anma. Walked around a little bit and discovered that there were 2 Anma joints along that street. Neither had any English wording on them so I decided to pick one at random and see if they would accept some foreigner business. Ended up going with the more traditional looking one.- old-looking stone building with a large parking lot in front and the normal car wash style flaps in the entryway (it's on the left side of the street if you're coming in from the end that Schaf recommended). Went into the reception area, and was greeted by several bowing staff members and a couple of people at the counter. One of the women at the counter spoke passable English and informed me that the session would be 190, 000 and would include sex and a massage. 190, 000 sounded pretty rich, but I figured what the hell, I'm probably never going to be in Seoul again, so I took the plunge. Besides, the lady at the counter promised that she would try to find someone who spoke English for me, and I'm a sucker for communication.
Standard drill.- led up the stairs by the attendant to the second floor, another attendant opened the door (which had a huge lock on it.- first line of defense against possible crackdowns? ) and brought me to a small room. He knocked on the door, and a girl opened it. Classic Korean beauty.- high cheekbones, tallish, good figure. I could see how she would be attractive to some people but I admit I was a bit disappointed, with Asian women I like a more Chinese look. Disappointment compounded when it quickly became clear that she spoke next to no English, so I resigned myself to an uninspiring fuck, which was pretty much how it turned out, other than for one interesting twist which I'll go into below.
Room was much as Schaf29 described, with separate bathroom containing jacuzzi, shower area and massage bed. Fairly standard procedure: she had me undress, took off her clothes, showered me down and then let me soak in the jacuzzi for a bit (with a face mask) while she prepared herself for what was coming. Then up on the massage bed, slippery massage with breasts and pussy, second shower down and to bed. She started the catbath routine which I generally enjoy, but again strictly professional: no DFK, functional moaning (fake, but fortunately not over the top), etc.
Then something interesting happened. Just as she finished doing her catbath.- and before she had even started the BJ I was expecting.- she went to the phone and dialed a number. Seeing me looking at her questioningly, she said "event girl" and came back to the bed. I thought I had misheard, so I asked her a couple more times what had happened, and each time she said "event girl" and motioned to indicate that someone was coming. I didn't understand what she was talking about, so I assumed that she meant either that she had called the receptionist to tell me something, or that she had gotten tired of me and was calling in a replacement. Neither of those prospects sounded terrible to me so I waited to see what was coming next.
About 30 seconds later, there was a knock on the door and another girl came in, dressed in a pink robe and a mardi gras style mask. She took off the robe to reveal a matching red bustiere with no panties, but left the mask on. I couldn't see her whole face, but what I saw through the mask and the rest of her body made it easy to conclude that my "event girl" was MUCH better looking than my original provider. "Event girl" smiled at me (what a smile! ), climbed onto the bed, used her mouth to put a condom on me and started sucking me off while my original provider started licking at my nipples. After a decent interval, "event girl" finished sucking me off and started fucking me cowgirl style. Original provider still hard at work on my chest.
Now things were getting interesting! But whenever I tried to touch "event girl" my provider gently but firmly swatted my hand away and told me I wasn't allowed. It was a pretty surreal experience, and I was getting two girls for what I had thought was the price of just one, so I followed instructions, but I thought it was interesting that that "event girl" never once indicated that I was crossing a line. On the contrary, she kept smiling at me throughout the act (did I mention that she had a terrific smile? ).
After a few minutes of this, "event girl" pulled off, stood up, smiled goodbye and left the room. My original provider then proceeded with the rest of the drill.- CBJ, FS first in cowgirl and then finishing in mish. As I said, the experience with her was pretty mechanical.- competent, but completely GFE-less. After we were done and while I was showering, I tried to ask my provider how the "event girl" system worked. She seemed to be trying to tell me that the "event girl" basically visited every customer unless the customer specifically asked that she not show up. Sounds like a tough job to have to do; I hope they rotate the role a bit, especially because I think that "event girl" would be a great primary provider!
After the hour was up, I went in for my blind massage, got the standard pummeling and squeezing and then went home. On my way out, the English-speaking receptionist asked me how it went and I told her I thought the event girl was great but that my actual provider was only so-so. She smiled but didn't otherwise say anything, and I didn't want to get my provider into trouble (she was pleasant enough, and might have been a lot better if I'd been able to speak Korean.- once I realized she was going to be just about incapable of talking to me I didn't put in much effort myself), so I left it at that and went home.
Overall:
Original provider.
Face: 6 (probably an 8 if you like Korean features)
Body: 7
Attitude: 5
Event Girl.
Face: 8. 5 (from what I could tell)
Body: 8
Attitude: 9 (but only for that short period)
WIR: Maybe, if I could figure out how to book the event girl.
For 190, 000, I'd say it wasn't the greatest deal, but for a one-time experience in Korea and with the "event girl", I'm not sorry I spent the money. Korean speakers and cosplay fans might have a better experience though, so there it is in case anyone wants to try it out.
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Kimchi Warrior
03-12-09, 01:28
I guess inquiring minds want to know; anyway, I received a private request for a detailed justification of my previous description of Peach Phuzz's Soo-Ae as the current "cream of the crop" in Itaewon and a "great fuck and a winning personality". I guess I can also elucidate why Korvett described her as "high energy". So here'a an account of one of my most recent encounters with her.
I got the the bar about 7:00; when I can I usually go early since I like the MLYLT experience and don't care to be interrupted by some other wannabee pounding on the door to get in. Soo-Ae often obliges by turning off the outside sign to discourage other would-be players.
Upon entry she showed me the new white leatherette fold out couch she's brought in as an alternative to the built in cubby hole characteristic of the 'ville juicy bars. This essentially turns the entire bar into a playpen, which works because she generally works alone, so there's not another girl there (pissed off because you're ruining her chance for action), unless you want there to be, in which case it's not a problem. Soo-Ae is quite open to multiples (2, 3 girl and more), if you've got the need and stamina (But why?.see below).
For starters we settled in at the bar for a couple of drinks. She likes red wine and quickly gets mellow, comfortable and increasingly uninhibited as the sauce hits. Drinks thus lead quickly into real GFE fondling, DFK, mutual undressing and genital play. We both like to prolong it, so we probably were at it for 15-20 minutes, before she dropped down into a crouch and went for a BBBJ while I sat on a high bar stool. I let her take the initiative in the beginning because it's exciting and gives her a chance to really get into it at her pace, so that I can take charge when the heavy pounding begins and she just surrenders to the moment.
Her BJ technique (s) are varied, she's VERY good at it. Perhaps the best I've had in nearly 40 years of sex. And she knows I like it, so she had at it for another twenty minutes. She seems to love sucking cock, and it's clear that she gets off being in charge so I let her keep steering the action; the payoff is the thrill of not knowing what's coming but knowing that it's going to be good, because she rewards you for giving her the reins. No disappointment there, as the BBBJ quickly became a medley, including teabagging, rimming and an anal finger fuck. All accompanied by constant hand stroking of my cock. I repaid the attention by munching on her sweet pussy. Probably a good 15 minutes of cocksucking interrupted only by occassional breathers for her while I gave some attention to her soft C cup breasts and their stiff nipples; her breats are big and soft enough to push them together and take both nipplesin your mouth at the same time, and she loves it, whimpering with pleasure.
By now, we were both ready to fuck. Again I let her take the lead. There's something very exciting about knowing a girl wants it enough and knows what she wants enough to go for it without being pushed. In Soo-Ae's case what she wanted first that night was reverse cow girl, so I leaned back and watched in delight and with growing anticipation as she bent over to show me her ****, slowly spread her pussy lips and then very slowly backed it onto my cock until settling on it with a gasp as her very tight pussy swallowed its entire length.- all the while looking back over her shoulder with a fetching look of sexual abandonment.
We worked that mojo for 10-15 minutes, then switched to std. Cowgirl Hard to choose between them. Reverse provides a thrilling view of the curve of her lovely ass into her incredibly tiny waist, while the front view affords a similar view of the curve of her figure from that tiny waist up to her breasts and access to the same, not to mention the excitement of seeing the excitement on her face as she bounces away on the bucking bronco.
After another 10 minutes of that, she was "ready". Slid off my dick, lay down on her back, spread her legs, opened her pussy lips with her fingers and said "Fuck me". She has a slightly husky voice that gets huskier in the throes of pasion, and the voice alone would be enough to elicit one's compliance with the request to fuck her even without the warm-up. I thought that's what we had been doing, but quickly realized that until that point, she had been fucking me and now wanted her reward. Which was a solid thirty minutes of mish and doggy pounding with occassional PTM that elicited every once of testosterone driven aggressiveness that had been building up while she was in charge earlier. Smart girl.
I'm a big fan of vaginal completion. As long as it's not inside a raincoat. When that's not available, I go for oral/facial. Soo-Ae was more than willing to oblige. After she had had as many orgasms as she wanted, she took me in her mouth again and didn't complain. Indeed, welcomed the insistent visitor. As I prolonged matters for another fifteen minutes. (Did I mention that I like the long time experience and that I especially like the long time cocksucing experience? )) Finally, I let her make me come in her mouth, pulling out in time to shoot a couple of streams onto her lovely lips and face.
Afterwards, we relaxed and chatted for awhile with a couple more drinks until we both recovered a bit. Did I say I like blowjobs? ) Then, with no prodding from me other than the sight of my reawakened dick, she went for another BBBJCIM. After that, I was well and truly DRAINED, but already looking forward to our nest meeting as I stumbled out to my car and the trip home.
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Yeah - that's the girl :) Thanks for a great report...just about made me cut out of work for a trip to the ville... :) She's one of the best players in the game today.
Thanks again,
KORVET
[QUOTE=Kimchi Warrior]I guess inquiring minds want to know; anyway, I received a private request for a detailed justification of my previous description of Peach Phuzz's Soo-Ae as the current "cream of the crop" in Itaewon and a "great fuck and a winning personality". I guess I can also elucidate why Korvett described her as "high energy". So here'a an account of one of my most recent encounters with her....
Member #3443
03-12-09, 18:19
[QUOTE=KORVET] Miya - Used to be at Fantasy, now across the alley - ok with threesomes but lackluster, ok with anal play but reluctant for much more, best bbbjcim in Itaewon - never more than 80K for FS; best bang for buck in town.
I thought Miya was only playing the mama as I heard rumor she was going to marry and when I was there insisted I be with the other girl.
Aznsenzation
03-13-09, 09:34
To KW:
Dude that sounds interesting, and she very well may enjoy the act of sex, but i don't know if she "gets off" doing all those things. I mean how can she if she sees someone else 10 minutes after doing you?
I mean she's a prostitute bro, she's paid to act like that so you keep coming back...
But you're writing skills are top...look forward to more
She's still in the game - at least as of a month ago. Miya's a funny chick - she is playing the mama-san thing to an extent but she's still very much into having her own fun. She did ask me the time before last to do her worker....I obliged...then about 15 minutes into it (with her watching from the foot of the bed) she told her girl "ok...you've had your fun.....my turn now.....45 minutes of GFE followed.
[QUOTE=KORVET] Miya - Used to be at Fantasy, now across the alley - ok with threesomes but lackluster, ok with anal play but reluctant for much more, best bbbjcim in Itaewon - never more than 80K for FS; best bang for buck in town.
I thought Miya was only playing the mama as I heard rumor she was going to marry and when I was there insisted I be with the other girl.
Kimchi Warrior
03-14-09, 06:55
Thanks for your evident concern about my perceptual acuity.
Seriously, while I'm sure she could be the proper barracuda with someone who deserved to be treated as such, that's not her usual modus operandi; for one thing she's still pretty new to the game (just about a year) and, while business-like, just isn't as aggressively fixated as many of the oldtimers on draining your wallet as well as your balls (as compared to giving good service for a fair price (which, as I've said before, in her case is at (IMHO) a justifiable premium to the prevailing 'ville market)).
Likewise, I'm sure that she's more than capable of giving a Meg Ryan performance for a regular john, because it's part of the job description, regardless of what she really feels.
Occasionally, though, working girls want to and do enjoy themselves, if the circumstances are right. (There's another whole story related to that topic about the saunas and afterhours boy toy clubs that cater to Seoul's working girls).
Does she "get off" on what we do? Those weren't my words, but yours. I said she gets into it, which may not seem like a big difference, but in any event I think my judgment is more than substantiated by her taking the initiative about a lot of things you'd otherwise have to press and bargain for. And, in any case, believe it or not, I can tell the difference between real enjoyment and a performance (good, middling or bad).
Sorry, man, I guess you just had to be there.
Anyway, I count myself lucky that I can reciprocate the enjoyment I get (and believe me it also has resulted in some privileges); I don't kid myself that I've got an LTR here.
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I have a short layover in Seoul next week (12 hours) and am looking for a recommendation. I usually like to look around myself, but as this is my first time in Seoul I don't have time to waste and want to find the right place on my first try.
What I want is : shower / bath followed by good hot towels and a massage, then finish off with a HJ. I'm not looking for FS and want the whole thing to last at least an hour.
I will be staying between Miasamgeori and Korea Univ. All advice welcome, and I'll post a report when I get back.
Kimchi Warrior
03-16-09, 14:04
Don't know much about the neighborhood where you will be located - except that the Miari glass house district is within (long) walking distance. Not much chance of a guided shower/bath there though. For that, especially given your time frame, the best bets are some the anma mentioned in other reports or the sauna at the Koreana Hotel downtown and the Hotel across the street from it in front of the Best Western New Seoul Hotel. Haven't been in quite a while, but hard to imagine that the standard post sauna hot towel massage and rub and tug isn't still on offer.
I have a short layover in Seoul next week (12 hours) and am looking for a recommendation. I usually like to look around myself, but as this is my first time in Seoul I don't have time to waste and want to find the right place on my first try.
What I want is : shower / bath followed by good hot towels and a massage, then finish off with a HJ. I'm not looking for FS and want the whole thing to last at least an hour.
I will be staying between Miasamgeori and Korea Univ. All advice welcome, and I'll post a report when I get back.
I got that service package in Report #4341 - short walk from a subway station.
Kimchi Warrior
03-18-09, 15:12
given your time frame, the best bets are some the anma mentioned in other reports or the sauna at the Koreana Hotel downtown and the Hotel across the street from it in front of the Best Western New Seoul Hotel.The Hotel across from the Koreana I had in mind is the New Kukje.
Kimchi Warrior
03-21-09, 04:48
So I read with interest KORVET's mention of a
relatively tall, thin spinner. Good looks. 10+ attitude. Hard into anal and ATM. and decided to check it out.
As mentioned before I'm an early starter, and my first outing drew a blank, as the bar. Texas. Wasn't open at 7:30, nor at 10: 30 when I checked back after having another session with my current favorite Soo-ae.
Got another opportunity a week later when I introduced an out of town visitor to the 'ville, and ended up prowling the hill after he found something to hook into on his own. Walking by Texas the door opened and there was some stop action on both my and the girl's as we simultaneously realized we knew one another. She is none other than Mindy, formerly of Ambrosia, who left the life at least two and maybe as long as three years ago. She's now back after gotten no joy in a legitimate business venture she tried to start.
And a welcome re-entrant she is for, as KORVET accurately reports she's got a 10+ attitude with a lean, long-legged body that she's willing to put to work to please you every which way. Facially, she's no conventional beauty, nor even particularly pretty, but with her war paint on she's got that high cheek-boned, pouting-mouthed almost "cruel" look of a Japanese working girl from a 19th century woodblock print. And she's not shy about talking dirty, both to wind you up and to keep you motivated (as if you really needed it, give everything else. See below). Her opener, when I asked what name she’s using now, was "Doumi". The Korean word for the female guides, hostesses, etc, who work everything from high end corporate receptions to auto races to the opening of a neighborhood restaurant. But "I pronounce it 'DO me'" she said.
With the memory of our last meeting suddenly fresh in mind. A six hour marathon with some pinch-hitting from two other girls. I told her that's just what I planned and walked in the door.
Before I could make my next move, she quickly asked if I wanted to see her decked out in lingerie or a school girl outfit (more like a uniform from the ****’s high school of suck and fuck than anything remotely resembling the typical Japanese school uniform fetish, as it later turned out. I opted for the lingerie, and she disappeared around a screen to emerge a couple of minutes in a stunning garter belt and seamed stocking, g-string ensemble that, coming on top of very high heels dramatically accentuated her long, perfectly shaped legs. On top she had a matching under-wired demi bra that pushed her relatively small B-cup breasts and pert nipples up and out quite enticingly. Before I could regain sufficient motor control of my jaw to close my gum-smacked mouth, she proceeded to do a brief ultra-sexy posing routine that ended with her sinking to her knees in front of the couch on which I was sitting and swallowing my cock whole.
After about 30 minutes of expert cocksucking, including extended episodes of deep-throating and gagging, it was time for the main events. Before commencing, though, I let Mindy have a breather, of which she took advantage to change into another eye-popping lingerie set. When she was ready we had a full thirty minutes of straight hard fucking in a half-dozen positions, then another 15 minutes of anal, in the course of each of which breaks were taken only for bouts of PTM and ATM.
The finish was preceded by another change of costume – into the school girl from slutsville high outfit—and commenced with a very lengthy and stimulating round of her rimming and-tongue penetrating my ass while stroking my cock until it was time for the clouds and the thunderstorm, for which I turned around and sprayed down her throat and across her face and breasts.
That was a reunion to remember.
Go get her at "Texas", about halfway up Hooker Hill on the left hand side.
The only thing not on the menu seems to be DP, an inquiry about the same elicited the response: "I'm not a porn actress". LOL
Kimchi Warrior
03-21-09, 09:14
Forgot to mention her offer to take a full body and oral GS (which would have required moving offsite to a hotel with a bathtub or large enough shower room). Not my cuppa', but I think she'd be more than happy to return the favor, too. Another offer, also not in my repertoire, was a threesome with an anlally wide-open but uncut TV.
Kimchi Warrior
03-22-09, 02:40
It's either Halfheimer's or just a garden variety of sex addled brain, but I also should have mentioned not to bother looking for Mindy before 11 PM.
The Hotel across from the Koreana I had in mind is the New Kukje.
I went to the New Kukje today because I wanted to check out the sauna there, but it wasn't open. Not sure if it's because today is Sunday or what but it was closed. If anyone wants to check for themselves, it's located on the third floor of the hotel. I ended up going to the Sporex at the Koreana hotel instead and got a fantastic massage from a hot college-aged girl. The highlight of the massage was kneading her ass cheeks while she gasped at the amount of jizz I produced. Pricey, but fun!
Another offer, also not in my repertoire, was a threesome with an anlally wide-open but uncut TV.
Perhaps my biggest complaint about The Hill; I'm not convinced that all of the "girls" that work there are really girls. Some of them at the top I just feel something is not right about them, they just look too...I don't know, strange? I think the places at the bottom are ok though, (Eve Bar, VIP, etc) but maybe that's just because I've been to those places and spent money there!
Kimchi Warrior
03-22-09, 12:24
Thanks for the updates on the New Kukje and Koreana saunas.
As for the other, Madrid and one of the places next to it on the Hill are denizened by fully replumbed TVs. Guess that makes them TSs. The Madrid "girl" is a wild squirter. Otherwise, the real TV action is back down the Hill and across the street at the corner. Obvious from the names of the bars, which all have variations of "Trans" in their names in Hangul or English.
Azure Knight
03-23-09, 05:53
I believe this is the girl that Korvet mentioned in his post about Itaewon favs.
I got to the Hill kind of early. Some shops weren't open yet, only a few were with slim pickings. I really wanted to try out Soo Ae at Peach Phuzz, so I just wandered around trying to kill time. At Ambrosia, a girl called out to me - she looked pretty good. Nice body, not rail thin but not fat either. I figured I could kill some time there at least, and if Peach Phuzz never opened just go here, so I went in.
The girl introduced herself as "Stella". Enthusiastically offered to show me a great time, rubbing my crotch as she said so. She offered FS for 200,000W - I told her I only had 150,000W on me (sort of true...that was all I was willing to spend on her) and she said that was fine. I told her that I was waiting for a friend and had to go in 5 minutes (I wanted to check on Peach Phuzz), but she refused to let me outside. I had to plead with her to let me go, promising that I'd be back in 5 minutes if I didn't find my friend. She wouldn't even let me do that, I had to buy her a 20,000W drink in good faith.
I went outside and checked on Peach - still nothing. Couldn't wait forever, so I went back to Ambrosia. Stella had already finished her drink. She thanked me for coming back, prompted me to remove my clothes as she did the same. She asked for the 150,000W, but I told her I only had 130,000W - I had 150,000W before the drink, so now 130,000W. She laughed about this and accepted it, plus a few extra 1,000W notes she saw in my wallet and asked me for.
She started out with CBJ and then quickly went to reverse cowgirl. We switched to doggy for awhile, then went into mish. It was all kind of mechanical, and from mish she started to prod me to finish. I hate getting rushed, so that plus how mechanical it was really took it out of me. I knew I wasn't going to pop, so I just pretended that I did and finished up.
Korvet said that she had a great attitude, and from what I initially saw I'd be inclined to agree. I may have messed things up for myself by my reluctance at the beginning, and the bargain hunting. I would pay her another visit if I'm ever in the neighborhood again.
Azure Knight
03-23-09, 06:15
After finishing up with Stella at Ambrosia, I was still wanting to monger, and still curious about Soo Ae. It was a bit before 7:30, so I tried wandering around the Hill for a bit, until I finally saw the Peach Phuzz sign light up a little after 7:30. I went, and there was a gorgeous Korean woman inside - she was wearing a sweater and jeans. She said she'd just opened up and hadn't changed into her working clothes. I actually liked this better though. She introduced herself as Soo Ae - bingo!
Soo Ae led me to a small room with a couch. She asked me to buy her a regular drink, to which I obliged. We chatted for a bit, and then she asked me to buy her a bottle of wine. I figured this was starting to rack up the expenses, but I agreed anyway. She took a bottle of wine out from the bar, left it there, and would frequently go back to fill her glass up.
Buying the wine bottle gave me the privilege of seeing her naked. She undressed in a half-strip tease, half shy-girl routine, which was incredibly hot. She has an amazing body and is just beautiful overall. She asked me to remove my shirt, and after doing so she licked my chest. I told her that we were going to play fair, so I sucked on her breasts in return. She then asked me to remove my pants, and after some ball play she gave me a light BBBJ. Again, fair play and all, so I returned the favor with DATY. She really did seem to be enjoying herself. She stopped me before she could get too carried away though. She had me lay on the couch, and she got on top of me.
Now we were going to get down to business, but before that she wanted to talk about pricing. Never a good sign. She offered long and short time - long time would be 700,000W, short would be 500,000W. Wow! I told her short, and she tried to sell me on long many times before finally accepting it. When she did, she came back with the calculation for everything, including drinks - 650,000W. I really honestly didn't have that much on me. For about 15 or 20 minutes, she tried everything she could to get as much cash out of me as possible. I think the final amount I forked over was around 350,000W. Despite falling short of her asking price, she eventually accepted it, and I noted that it was still much higher than any other place on the Hill.
By this time, the "mood" had long since passed - more than the high price, I wasn't really happy with her trying to suck as much cash out of me as possible. I wasn't being cheap, I literally just did not have that much on me. She'd spotted credit cards in my wallet and had been more or less begging me to use them.
Nevertheless, after payment she got right back into it, and I decided that being angry wasn't worth souring the 350,000W I'd already spent on her. She got me back going with a CBJ, then we had FS in a variety of positions. Very GFE like, very intense. I got off a pretty good pop.
While she is a great experience, I dunno if she's worth the price she asks for - I would consider going back, but only if she didn't try to squeeze every cent out of me again.
So, let's get a little discussion out there. Best Korean Mongering options. There must be pros and cons about all. For me?
Itaewon: usually better service, but also more expensive. I go on week nights, so not a lot of clock watching. 100, 000 30-45 minutes
Yongsan: Cheaper, but ST is ST. I pay 70, 000 and then I'm always being hurried. My last time I had to pay 30 extra to get 5 more minutes out of her so I could finish. I like to do what I do. Don't rush me.
Oh Pal Pal: Been once. Couldn't get served by anyone except a 40 year old Ajuma in a sweatshirt (still can't believe I agreed to that). 30, 000 + 20, 000 extra, 15 min
Glass Houses: Went for the first time last night. Got anxious and picked the first girl I saw, but she was the kind of girl I was looking for and I jumped. Had a good time. Never told me to hurry. Let me try a few different positions. Had real hair, not extensions, so I could pull it ok. Not bad at all. After, walked around and saw other women. It looked like a good place. But it's far from me in Gangnam
Anma: Too expensive for me. Don't like to pay more than 100, 000
BBS: Never been, anyone know good BBS in Gangnam?
Any thoughts?
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Azure/Kimchi,
Glad to see everyone sampling the fare of the ville & reporting on it :)
Soo Ae and Stella:
The Soo Ae report sounds on target, although the prices are pretty high. She's not for the light walleted but I've usually been able to hit it for 140K. She has started with some way out prices (then again most of the chicks worth anything - and a few worth almost nothing - do the same). I play it hard but friendly and am not adverse to walking in mid-BJ if the price remains in the stratosphere (for me 100K is good for normal FS/BBBJ service, 130-150K for a premium FS/BBBJ hottie, and 200-300K for a porn star experience...e.g. ATM and such). Still sounds like you had a good time. She's a quality girl.
On to Stella -
Prices sound about right although I never recall her name...despite having done her 15 or 20 times. She'll usually ask for 200K then drop immediatly to 140-150K. I usually do a double session with her - 200K total....two to three pops. I suspect Stella is the chick I've done there. Nice ass...always has a big smile....slightly goofy (in a good way)...and small tits....not exactly A cup but pretty close. She's also big into anal play - both giving and taking. Real big into kissing as well.
On Mindy (wish I was at the moment...) -
Glad to have played a small part in a happy reunion :) Thanks for the great report btw - really well done. It shows that the Hill offers a lot more than vanilla 1-2-3 sex. Your description of her looks was spot on too: sharp, nice body...Mandy is a fav - super intelligent lady too. The "porn star" line made me laugh. It reminded me of a line from Candy who works next door, at Rosys. When a buddy of mine and I asked her about a DP she said "Sure! If a girl can do it in a porn movie, I can do it too!"
Cabin Mini-Report:
Stopped by there last week for a late night adventure...around 2AM. Three girls working plus Ms. Lee, the mama-san (who is available for those looking for a MILF adventure). Hooked up for a threesome with Choy and Jane. Choy left the won about 4 years ago and just got back. She's a real adventure. Sometimes mistaken at a distance for a TS because she's gigantic (played on the Korean national volly ball team way back). For those who care, the original plumbing is female. She's about 6 feet tall...maybe a bit more. Full ass - smallish B's but with great eraser sized nipples. Her partner was Jane - a Korean chick recenty back from working in a non-"working" job in Thailand. She's older - maybe 36; fair body and full natural Bs to Cs. Best thing about her was her attitude - very much into enjoying herself. Experince was pretty good. Cost was about 300K total plus a drink for each. FS and BJ with both. About a minute of anal with Choy before she turned into jello. FS pop in Jane followed about 15 minutes later with a BBBJCIM, also with Jane. Light bi-action. The girls played with each other's tits, did a little nipple sucking, kissed hard once and light a few times.
TS/TV -
As noted, there are a few post-ops on the Hill. The Madrid has specialized in that for the last five or six years. Not my cup of tea although I did have a fun time a couple years ago with the then owner of the Madrid (100% female) and one of her altered workers.
Enjoy :)
KORVET
[QUOTE=Azure Knight]I believe this is the girl that Korvet mentioned in his post about Itaewon favs.
I got to the Hill kind of early. Some shops weren't open yet, only a few were with slim pickings. I really wanted to try out Soo Ae at Peach Phuzz, so I just wandered around trying to kill time. At Ambrosia, a girl called out to me - she looked pretty good....
Daviddawkins
03-23-09, 11:10
A few of you seem to have the "hill" mapped out.
I have become intrigued with the MILF experience. Is the "Cabin" the bar that is directly across from that hotel/motel 3/4 of the way up hooker hill? How old is Ms. Lee? For those of you that have tried her, Is she fairly open to getting down and dirty or is she a starfish?
Are there any other milfs that work the area that anyone has tried and could recommend?
Just out of curiosity, who is the thinnest, fattest, and oldest of the workers in the Hill area. Fine reports of late. Keep it up.
Kimchi Warrior
03-24-09, 00:37
Cabin is not on hooker hill per se, but on the street heading up from Itaewon High Street off which Hooker Hill runs up on the left just past the convenience store (7/11? ) just in from the intersection. Cabin is near the top of the street, just past the Moulin Rouge on the left hand side and more or less across (but a little higher up) from Nymph, Ing and Peach Phuzz. Generally has older girls who move around quite frequently, some often having come back from Japan, and who are often among the most uninhibited in the 'ville (although Mindy at Texas, the post-op now at Madrid and Candy at Rosys, I'd have to say, are the current "pornstars" in action on the Hill (broadly conceived).
Kimchi Warrior
03-24-09, 04:25
Having rung Soo-Ae's praises, I was sorry to read of your ambivalent encounter. You don't sound as though you warrant the barracuda treatment, but I'm not entirely sure that's what you got. For one thing, IMHO, I think you made a bit of a misstep by springing for the bottle of wine, apparently before fixing the price (especially since I suspect it was the second of the two bottles I brought to Peach Phuzz with me the night before). Given that opening, any girl with half a brain is going to go for the Cafe d'Paris mark-up. As for her importuning you for a big number, it occurs to me that's because 3/25 is settlement day at the local banks for interest and principal payment days, and she may have been running short of making the monthly nut on the debt that drove her into the game. Anyway, with a girl of her quality, I always find it works out better to give 'them something in the ballpark they ask and make settlement at the outset. Usually, that approach ends up limiting the bargaining to the front end and minimizing its mood-busting potential (a very important consideration for me, for which I'm willing to pay a bonus) and usually gets me more time and a better experience; if it doesn't, I just don't go back and, since, (like Korvet, I suspect) I go often and have got a profile among the girls in the 'ville, they know they've fucked up and lost an opportunity (which sometimes creates new ones for me. Anyway, that's the route I first went with Soo-ae, and it elicited a complete unconcern with the clock. In fact about 2. 5 hours of service instead of 1, after which more probably could have been had but for the fact that I was 3 pops done. And the best GFE I've ever gotten in a P4P situation. In the end, I in effect got a substantial discount on her asking hourly rate with the rest as a "gift" and a lot of good will that I've been busy taking advantage of ever since. Something to keep in mind for the future, at least in this market. Next time you're in town PM me; maybe we can roll together; both threesomes I've done w/ Soo-Ae have involved Stella, and the latter is actually much better in traffic.
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D-
Kimchi gave a great summary of the Cabin. Just to add a bit on your specific questions:
Most of the chicks at the Cabin are in their mid-30s, although there are some exceptions. They're a pretty uninhibited bunch and more than willing to move the fun off site (which is nice).
Ms. Lee is in her late 40s - probably 48 or 49 by U.S. age. She's no spring chicken and has put on weight in the last two or three years. That said, she still get it on as well or better than girls 20-25 years younger...and is very much into it. Very big into kissing and long, long sessions (I had to kick her out a couple of times back in the day so I cold get a few minutes sleep before work). She's very much into anal play...still remember her grabbing one of my fingers and pushing it deep into her ass the first time we met. She's reluctant to do the deed unles she knows you though. It's a fun ride though...she gets all quakey and teary eyed but keeps telling you to do her. Everytime I've done her this way it's started out with her saying she doesn't do anal....then comes the finger in her ass as we go doggy, then a few minutes later in she pops. One tip - - she's not much into DATY but she goes wild for fingering - especially if its prolonged.
Enjoy and be sure to share your adventures. Always good to hear about talent I may have missed - particulary chicks open to more than vanilla FS/BJ action.
KORVET
A few of you seem to have the "hill" mapped out.
I have become intrigued with the MILF experience. Is the "Cabin" the bar that is directly across from that hotel/motel 3/4 of the way up hooker hill? How old is Ms. Lee? For those of you that have tried her, Is she fairly open to getting down and dirty or is she a starfish?
Are there any other milfs that work the area that anyone has tried and could recommend?
Just out of curiosity, who is the thinnest, fattest, and oldest of the workers in the Hill area. Fine reports of late. Keep it up.
Kimchi Warrior
03-24-09, 13:12
Nb that the word on the street is that there will be a police sweep in Itaewon sometime Thursday evening. Apparently, a one-off, just to keep the denizens on their toes, not part of any prolonged anti-vice campaign; still the better part of discretion is to keep it in your pants that night or order takeout.
Azure Knight
03-25-09, 02:31
@Korvet - Yep, definitely sounds like the same girl. I briefly tried getting her into anal but she wasn't too responsive. Again, I think we just got off on the wrong foot. I would say she's definitely worth her price.
@Kimchi - Thanks for the offer, perhaps I will hit you up next time I'm in town. A threesome with Soo Ae and Stella sounds like it would be quite the experience!
I admit that I made some newbie mistakes of my own with Soo Ae - mainly, I shouldn't have let things go as far as they did without making the prices clear. I was expecting some markup, but I was surprised at just how high she tried to ring me for! And further put off by her continued attempts to get more money out of me. I wouldn't mind going to see her again, but only if we established the price right off the bat, its a price that's not outrageous, and she doesn't try to dog me for more money. I'm not too angry about it, I just hope that reporting about it here can help some other would-be Soo Ae customers from having to go through the same thing. Whatever you do, don't let her see credit cards in your wallet. In fact, I'd say bring nothing more than however much you are willing to spend.
Soo Ae/Stella threesome...that's something I'd definitely like to do!
Kimchi Warrior
03-25-09, 05:48
Soo Ae/Stella threesome...that's something I'd definitely like to do!
Well I guess it would be a foursome tag-team match. LOL.
As for managing Soo-Ae's monetary expectations, I can take care of that end.
Aznsenzation
03-25-09, 12:57
Well I guess it would be a foursome tag-team match. LOL.
As for managing Soo-Ae's monetary expectations, I can take care of that end.Hey, bro, count me in on that if you need an extra "helping hand". I've done numerous threesomes (but just one tag team foursome) on the hill with the ladies. Give me a reply if interested. I'm available almost every night.
Cheers
Kimchi Warrior
03-26-09, 03:34
Turn on your PM mail facility.
Ok, keeping the conversations flowing, I want to know: What is your favorite mongering method/area in Korea? Are there pros and cons to each? My opinions, from what I've experienced so far:
Itaewon: More expensive, but better service. I frequently get at least 30 minutes for short time if not longer. I don't know how the girls rate for looks, but I've found them to be a bit freakier than others in Korea. But then again, I usually go on week nights, so the selection is low and possibly, they are down for more because they need the business. Molah.
Yongsan: Even though I'm a westerner, I've gotten service. Not by the really hot ones on the main drag, but the second tier in the alleys. Price, ok (70, 000), Girls, low quality. Service, even worse. ST seems to be 15 minutes. Last time, I wasn't finished and I had to pay 30, 000 more to finish after 15 minutes was up. That sucked.
Glass Houses: I went there for the first time the other night. Had a good experience. Girl was nice, hot and stacked. Many women were ok with me being a westerner. Price, 70, 000. Had a good time. I lasted about 30 minutes and the girl didn't seem to mind. I pounded her, pulled her hair, also ok with her. Only problem, far away from where I live in Gangnam.
Anma: I don't like to pay 200, 000 when I can pay less than 100, 000 other places
BBS: Haven't tried yet.
What I REALLY would like is a place closer to Gangnam with prices between 70, 000. 100, 000. I need a place to go after work to get quick and cheap FS. I go to Zest, but that's HJ only for 80, 000. If anyone has better options (near Gangnam or just want to add to the discussion) feel free to post.
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I read the past forum entries but I can't find a good answer to these questions: can I expect DFK in the Glass Houses in Miari? And how long does a session typically last there?
Can someone help?
Thanks for your evident concern about my perceptual acuity.
Hahahah, Gotta love the prose!
Wow guys, sounds like you have been having the time of your lives in my absence. Currently out of the country chasin Latina providers, and catching a few!
Amusingly, I have to say I never knew about any post-ops on the Hill. Wow, kind of shocking to think in a drunken haze I might have been with someone who was once packin meat. Oh well, if I did, I didn’t notice it, and being a medical guy, I am pretty sure I would. Now Thailand on the other hand…
As for Azure’s experience with Soo- Ae, eh, win some, lose some I always say. I always feel like it’s a roll of the dice when I pick a provider. Sometimes the chemistry gets screwed up, sometimes its money, sometimes the girl’s odor turns me off and I can’t finish. Sometimes things go incredibly right, and I have a great f*** experience, as I did with Soo-Ae. I think if you read my old report you will see I spent 300W, but really we were together for about 2.5 hours.
So now I have to relate my last night in Seoul about 2 weeks ago. (Sorry Kimchee, had to leave the country for a bit, but will return) Anyway, went out in Apujeong for partying with the boys and stayed out until 5am. Then I ended up in an An Ma. (See pics)
The experience was same same. Get naked, shower table, pussy/tits oil massage, shower and hot towels, then back to bed for CBJ, RCG, then CG, then mish to finish. Girl was about a 7 L/ 7 A. The only thing is I was too drunk to finish. No chance no way. Well, adjoshi was came in the room and asked what was the problem, i.e. how come I was upset. I told him the girl quit just when I was about to come and said, “times up”, which was almost true.
So, for 100KW more he sent in another girl. And same thing all over again. Again, he comes in and asks how it was, and I say same, “no good, she watch clock too much”. So, he asks if I want different girl, and I say ok. So, again 100K more and in comes in a different girl, and she starts my third shower of the night, I tell her no shower, just fuckee, which is OK with her.
Adjoshi comes in the last time and asks OK? Again I tell him no, no good. He says, girl very good, my best, you no come? I say send her in again and this time for sure. So, he says, this one on me, she fuck you good. And third girl comes in again and we fuck for another hour. Again, no come. So finally, exhausted, I say “too muchee”, and go to sleep.
I woke up around 1pm in the afternoon and took the two pictures below. This is where I found myself. I thanked Adjoshi very much and walked outside into the sunlight and tried to figure out how to get home from where I was which took about 4 hours and resembled hell.
End result, fantastic service from all providers and adjoshi, fucked for around 4 hours with 4 different girls for 300K won. Not that I am saying you guys should go do that, but I think it stands that customer service gets a huge thumbs up at this place. Go to exit in pic, and then look for other pic and go.
YMMV though.
Kimchi Warrior
03-27-09, 10:34
It should be pretty obvious from my previous posts what my views on this are, so I won't repeat. Just wanted to mention a couple of options you didn't include: (1) the room salon experience in all its manifestations. High-end, down & dirty and "white man's" (pretty well-covered in past posts) and (2) SWs (yes, Clarence, there are SWs in Seoul, although as far as I know they only work from about now until it gets really cold again in December, the stroll being tactically located on the Namsan Ring Road about halfway between the Hyatt and the Hilton. Saw about a dozen out there last night at 1:30 am; my impression is that they don't generally come out until after 11.although it may be earlier as the temp. Rises. No experience of my own with them to report, alas.)
Kimchi Warrior
03-27-09, 13:43
[Quote]I read the past forum entries but I can't find a good answer to these questions: can I expect DFK in the Glass Houses in Miari? And how long does a session typically last there[Quote]Very unlikely for DFK; short time.
Grahamgreene500
03-28-09, 00:47
Kimchi Warrior mentioned streetwalkers along Namsan at night. Are they there for pickup in the car, or do they have houses nearby where they take you? I wonder where else around Seoul one could find women on the street? For myself, I don't really like the way the Itaewon club girls bleed you for every won you've got, then insist you hurry your way through the deed, or the time pressures of the red light areas like Yongsan and Miari, though the girls are hot. I prefer an independent woman with her own place to go back to, and don't mind if she's older, since I find they are often most into the sex and provide a better attitude and service overall. You even get a better price. Good value overall.
There are the usual suspects patrolling the Itaewon streets, like the fat lady, Song, who has business cards advertising her massage, and the toothless granny who's always in the entrance to Gecko's. There are also quite a few in the back streets by Youngdeungpo Stn. (I visited one of them a number of times and she was extremely pleasant, unhurried, always happy to see me - 30,000 won a pop.) There are a few on Namsan during the day time near the casino, most of whom are really nasty, but one, Mi-young, has been just great the few times I've been to see her.
I guess what I'm asking is: what have I missed? Does anyone know about other places around where you can find women on the street? Especially if they're out relatively early, since I don't live in Seoul and rely on public transportation to get back to my place at night.
Thanks in advance for any wisdom you have to offer!
[Quote]I read the past forum entries but I can't find a good answer to these questions: can I expect DFK in the Glass Houses in Miari? And how long does a session typically last there[Quote]Very unlikely for DFK; short time.Probably not much DFK, you get maybe 20-30 minutes in the karoke, with a beverage and then it's about 20 minutes for the boom boom.
Kimchi Warrior
03-28-09, 22:19
Kimchi Warrior mentioned streetwalkers along Namsan at night. Are they there for pickup in the car, or do they have houses nearby where they take you?My understanding, confirmed only by observation on my way in and out w/ another SP, is that the Hotel D'Oro is one of the venues of choice for the Namsan SWs.
Hello,
I am a student in South Korea doing an exchange. I want to know what the best place to get a naked, sensual massage. I would prefer if it is closer to Sinchon. It can also be close to City Hall subway station. Please let me know the best place, and the price/service I should expect
Also If I want to find a girl who is open to Anal, where should I go? Itaewon? Thanks very much!
Kimchi Warrior
03-30-09, 06:07
I'm unaware of anything in Sinchon [except the plethora of potential freebees from Ewha and Yonsei undergrads ], and if you don't want to go farther than the City Hall area, your best bet is probably the Sporex sauna at The Koreana Hotel right across from City Hall; there was a recent brief report on it. RTFF.
Your best bet for backdoor action is Itaewon. Three providers spring to mind: Candy at Rosy's, Mindy at Texas and Soo-Ae at Peach Phuzz. Candy is a bit of a shark, and you'll need to make clear your wants and settle a price up front without letting her see how much dosh you may have on hand. Mindy is a lot easier to deal with. I recently took the big lumber up the dirt path with her on a whim, and she had no problem with it; but she knows me; YMMV. She doesn't show up, usually, until after 11 PM. Soo-Ae is far and away the best-looking.- in fact she's a knock-out. And the most likely "real" GFE, if you strike her fancy, but she's only been taking it in the backdoor for a very short time, may or may not be willing (and definitely is unlikely to be if you're from Lake Woebegone and are above-average. Or even if you're just average). I'd project at least 300K KRW for any one of them for the price of rear entry (plus everything else, of course); all will try for more. NB, that Soo-Ae is being visited by Cousin Flo this week.
The providers below are solid and the characterization is right on target.
I've had good backdoor success at VIP and the Cabin as well, although not all the girls are up for it. The easiest tack is to be direct; you're not asking for anything someone else hasn't. Worst case, you move on (unless she's a hottie that you're into regardless of services on the menu). If the chemistry is good you can also "develop" talent - I've convinced a few of my regulars to go anal after a couple solid sessions. They won't do it regularly...but that adds to the spice.
If you're less picky about things ,you can move up the Hill. As reported earlier, Madrid has some post-ops (not everyone's cup of tea...although some are smoking hot) who are anal friendly. Also, a few of the other chicks from the Mississippi and points further up the Hill are convincable for a reasonable price.
300KW is more than sufficient for the chicks below. Cheapest was 80K (from some fireplug looking wench near the top of the Hll last year); most expensive was 800K to do Candy and a friend of hers from VIP. It included anal with both, Candy fisting her friend's ass (not my request or somethng I'm really into but strangely arousing while Candy was deepthroating me...), and ATM from one chick to the other.
One I've been meaning to break in is Stella....
Away from the Hill-
Glass Houses: Never had success with this at a glasshouse, although I've had some great off-site FS sessions with chicks I became "regulars" with.
Anma's: Hit and miss. I've scored with maybe 20% of the chicks there; usually with repeats.
Freelancers/Freebies: Pretty good record here. I've broken in every freebie that I've hit more than twice. I've convinced about a third of freelancers.
Side Note: 100% of the chicks I've hit in Itaewon have said "please don't tell anyone else I do this" and "do you only do this with me?" (as in "do we have a "special" relationship?").
Happy hunting. Be sure to share your hits (and misses).
KORVET
Your best bet for backdoor action is Itaewon. Three providers spring to mind: Candy at Rosy's, Mindy at Texas and Soo-Ae at Peach Phuzz...
Great! Thanks a lot for your replies!
I think I will check out sporex tomorrow. What is the proper procedure for that place? How much does it cost? And what services should I expect there? Just a HJ? Will both the girl and myself be naked?
Thanks!
300KW is more than sufficient for the chicks below. Cheapest was 80K (from some fireplug looking wench near the top of the Hll last year); most expensive was 800K to do Candy and a friend of hers from VIP. It included anal with both, Candy fisting her friend's ass (not my request or somethng I'm really into but strangely arousing while Candy was deepthroating me...), and ATM from one chick to the other.
Are you serious?!?! 800K for just anal with a friend??? Geez...you can probably get 2 bottles and a second round at a full service room salon for those prices and have some change left over for some kimbap and ramen after the deed!
In any event, I just want to applaud the postings of Kimchi Warrior and Korvet for making the S.Korean threads a more enjoyable read!
As for backdoor entry, I've had very little luck when it comes to persuading girls but these are mostly with normal Korean girls and as for providers, its usually a flat out NO with stern looks for being a pervert. Perhaps I need to try out Itaewon as mentioned in the earlier posts but thanks for all the info and hope that I can plug some ass sometime soon!
Kimchi Warrior
03-31-09, 04:17
If the chemistry is good you can also "develop" talent. I can't seem to get smilies to work, so let me just say this brought a big smile to my face. When I first met Soo-Ae a year ago she was a very unspoiled, playful, enthusiastic and imaginative provider (still is, for that matter) with well above average (GFE grade) but not truly remarkable (porn star grade) skills, and there were certain limits; she was very shy (and usually unwilling) about DATY (I think because she enjoys it so much, and doesn't necessarily want to with every or even most clients) and anal wasn't even in the ballpark. I'm pleased to say that assiduous tuition on my part has resulted in always open DATY, really outstanding, porn star level tea-bagging deepthroat skills and sometimes anal. I bought several gradually more challenging training toys for the latter maybe 7-8 months ago, and she's has been progressing nicely. I'm definitely from Lake Woebegone, so it's still difficult and painful for her, but she's gotten to the point where she can take the whole rather long and thick enchilada and even enjoy it despite (or on account of? ) the discomfort.
So ya'll are welcome. LOL.
Kimchi Warrior
03-31-09, 05:24
The Sporex is upstairs on the 8th? Floor. There are two elevator banks; one doesn't stop there. Tell 'them on the way in you want a massage. After changing they will show into the sauna with the various water tubs, etc. After you've broiled for awhile, they'll come looking for you. Sports massage is on offer in the sauna facilities, but that's not what you want; they will probably know what you want. LOL. For that you go through a small relaxation room to another part of the floor and a private room. Sensual massage w/ happy ending. You will be naked; the girl may or may not be full or partially so. You may or may not get to play anatomical discovery. You will pay 100K; may be more now; it's been awhile.
Kimchi Warrior
03-31-09, 05:30
For anyone in need, or if you're just looking to boost your satyriasis quotient to the insatiable level, viagra is available for 10K KRW/100mg under the counter at the Adult Shop on Itaewon high street. Head east from the 4-way where the fire station is located, past the original Sortino's restaurant and past the the light at the next big intersection (where the Jeil Advertising Bldg. Is located). The shop is located on the second floor with entry directly from the street about 4-5 shops in from the corner on the south side. They also often have cialis, if that's what you prefer.
Kimchi Warrior
03-31-09, 08:53
It occurs to me. The little brain is always getting the big one to turn over. That with the economy softening, it may be time to get together a Seoul Mongers raiding party for a Bukchang-dong/Soegye-dong style room salon mission. I seem to recall a not too old report about decent pricing for parties of four or more. Any volunteers? Any recommendations? Isn't this something on which you have some intel, Dizz Hizz? Haven't been myself for five years or so, when I organized a double platoon size outing, and all my sources are cold.
For anyone in need, or if you're just looking to boost your satyriasis quotient to the insatiable level, viagra is available for 10K KRW/100mg under the counter at the Adult Shop on Itaewon high street. Head east from the 4-way where the fire station is located, past the original Sortino's restaurant and past the the light at the next big intersection (where the Jeil Advertising Bldg. Is located). The shop is located on the second floor with entry directly from the street about 4-5 shops in from the corner on the south side. They also often have cialis, if that's what you prefer.
i was also told about this intel but when i entered the shop and after looking at the various bright colored dildos and vibrators, my inquiry was shut down with a somewhat stern look on the store owner's face. shit.
maybe because i'm korean american he thought it would be better safe than sorry. anyways, i really do want some vitamins in the near future and had no luck in finding any!
It occurs to me. The little brain is always getting the big one to turn over. That with the economy softening, it may be time to get together a Seoul Mongers raiding party for a Bukchang-dong/Soegye-dong style room salon mission. I seem to recall a not too old report about decent pricing for parties of four or more. Any volunteers? Any recommendations? Isn't this something on which you have some intel, Dizz Hizz? Haven't been myself for five years or so, when I organized a double platoon size outing, and all my sources are cold.
Kimchi Warrior,
I just went to the RS (room salon) located in the basement of the Ramada Hotel over in Samsung Dong recently, and although the venue itself is a bit more classy with live bands for entertainment as opposed to built in karoake, the initial charges are a bit more steep but girls are available for take out for second round. Initial charges were about 300K/head and I presume take out would be another 200K, which is expected for a full service RS.
Since I used to work around the City Hall area several years ago, I did frequently visit those Buk-Chang Dong establishments but after a while, it got old and I just wanted to fuck instead of getting a BJ/HJ in the presence of my colleagues and friends for something nominally cheaper and avoiding the whiskey dick syndrome.
Samsung Dong also has a number of places like BKD style rooms, as FOX was the primary place I used to visit and had a good waiter friend who brought in some slutty talent and was also somewhat foreign friendly but my waiter moved out to some place called Bugsy over by Kangnam station and I have still yet to check out the venue and its services. I'm presuming 200K/head should be the norm there.
Another great venue with beautiful sool jib girls is Blue Fish, located right next to the Black Angus in Kangnam Station. Prices are downright expensive as I recall about being almost 4-500K/head but those girls were just fucking awesome and left me blue balled and hungover the next day.
Might be hard to gather the mongers on this board given everyone's personal schedules and committment to meet random strangers on the internet but you're efforts are well noted for great info and gathering like minded people for a full time hobby!
i was also told about this intel but when i entered the shop and after looking at the various bright colored dildos and vibrators, my inquiry was shut down with a somewhat stern look on the store owner's face. shit.
maybe because i'm korean american he thought it would be better safe than sorry. anyways, i really do want some vitamins in the near future and had no luck in finding any!
They are available because the last time I went into this shop the seller (not sure if he was the owner) did offer me the pills along some boot-leeged porno DVDs.
Ok, I dig Korean chicks...but I have to admit it: I've got a soft spot for girls from the hood. Maybe it's a result of my lost youth in LA and the hotties I dated in Hawthorne, Gardenia, and similar places...maybe it's because I've always been the guy trying all 31 flavors at Baskin Robbins.
But what's available in Itaewon???
Lest you think your only choices are hefty Nigerian girls with drug problems and thick necked boyfriends at the bottom of Fish Alley or female soldiers at the King Club, take heart in knowing that you can always tap Kelly.
Kelly, a Korean chick originally from Busan, has been in and out of the biz for about six years (mainly out for the last year though). She's currently working late nights at the Moonlight, more or less across from Tiger Tavern.
First off she's a very good provider: attitude with me has always been a 9-10; price is about 140K for FS/BBBJ - which is on the high end - but she'll usually take u to her place, right around the corner. Sessions usually involve a shared shower followed by GFE FS and BJ; no rush at all and not particularly sharkish. Body is good. She's about 32, "thick" (i.e. filled out in all the right places), and has a good rack of natural Cs.; about a 7.5 in overall looks on the Itaewon scale. She's ok with some anal play but has always been reluctant to do the deed.
So what does this have to do with hood rats (i.e. slightly thuggish hotties from the hood who sleep with a lot of guys)?
Kelly believes she's black. Ok...maybe not literally but she's imprinted hard on stereotypical African-American hood culture, down to her accent, her style in bed, and some absolutly ghetto body art. Any time I long for my misspent youth I visit Kelly, turn off the lights, and I'm back in a cheap hotel on Crenshaw Blvd.
Give her a ride. I suspect you'll enjoy it.
KORVET
Well, to be fair they also gave me a stick of gum and all the handi-whipes I could handle.
:)
[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Are you serious?!?! 800K for just anal with a friend??? Geez...you can probably get 2 bottles and a second round at a full service room salon for those prices and have some change left over for some kimbap and ramen after the deed!
In any event, I just want to applaud the postings of Kimchi Warrior and Korvet for making the S.Korean threads a more enjoyable read!
Met up with a girl about 2/3 of the way up the hill on the left. There's a building with a few bars in it and it's the second door from the top near the top corner of the building on the left. I wish I could remember the name, but I can't. I wish I could remember HER name, but I can't. So this really isn't helpful.
But she was short, had a really big ass, short hair, glasses. Kind of an alternative look a little. Either way, if you ever notice her, try her out. She ABSOLUTELY thinks it's her job to do what you want her to do. That includes taking it as hard as I can give it to her and deep throat my dick. I've done her twice and even though she is not the prettiest, her personality and dkill is amazing. And with her HUGE ass, it was like pounding a pillow. I was on a bouncy ride and I held on as long as I could.
I went to Itaewon tonight and got a BJ from this woman named Bean at Bridge Bar. She started at 80k for a BJ and 100k for FS, I scoffed at those prices and offered 40k for a BJ she countered with 60k and 80k for FS, and I said 50k take it or leave it. In fact, that's all the money I had on me, since I had spent the rest of my cash on beers and kebabs down the road.
Anyways, I gave her the 50,000 won and she took me to the motel across the street where she has a room. It was pretty dingy but it's fine for a quickie. To be honest I wouldn't have gone for Bean if it weren't for this recommendation by Sfinil. So, if you're reading this Sfinil, she should thank you, maybe give you a discount or something!
Her ass really stands out since it's fairly big, especially for a Korean chick. As she was walking me to the motel I was checking it out and it really was like a horses ass! She ended up giving a very good BJ with some good deep throat action. Having said that, I don't think I would repeat as I just don't think she's that good looking. And when it comes down to it, the only reason she has that ass is because she's kind of chubby.
Overall, I prefer Jina at Eve Bar, or the ladies at VIP. But Bean is fine for cheap thrills and I don't regret going with her.
If you're less picky about things ,you can move up the Hill. As reported earlier, Madrid has some post-ops (not everyone's cup of tea...although some are smoking hot) who are anal friendly.
I saw that she-boy at Madrid, it came out and tried to get me to come in. It's fairly clear it's a man (it's about six feet tall with a long neck), but whatever floats peoples boat. I hope it tells people it's a guy, you know, full disclosure and all.
Anyways, it's against ISG rules to post about TV or TS:
"No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males. This website is about sex between men who were always men and women who were always women. Any person violating this policy will banned immediately."
They are available because the last time I went into this shop the seller (not sure if he was the owner) did offer me the pills along some boot-leeged porno DVDs.
DISCRIMINATION!!
LOL!!
I guess looking like the locals can do more harm than good in this situation...damn you round eyed caucasians!
But that seriously sucks. Whats the prices like though?
Well, to be fair they also gave me a stick of gum and all the handi-whipes I could handle.
:)
LOL.
Quite hard to beat a stick of gum and some handi-whipes but unlimited cigarettes, ramen, and free lighters at the 180K (sorry folks i get the korean pricing but I cant get fucking vitamins) joints for me seem good enough for me!
And don't forget the free shoe shine too!
;)
Anyways, I gave her the 50, 000 won and she took me to the motel across the street where she has a room. It was pretty dingy but it's fine for a quickie. To be honest I wouldn't have gone for Bean if it weren't for this recommendation by Sfinil. So, if you're reading this Sfinil, she should thank you, maybe give you a discount or something!
Her ass really stands out since it's fairly big, especially for a Korean chick. As she was walking me to the motel I was checking it out and it really was like a horses ass! She ended up giving a very good BJ with some good deep throat action. Having said that, I don't think I would repeat as I just don't think she's that good looking. And when it comes down to it, the only reason she has that ass is because she's kind of chubby.
Thanks for the heads up. I WILL milk it for as much of a discount as possible. She gives pretty good head, but the real reason to go with Bean is because of her big ass. Doggy is amazing. And because her ass is big, not only is it like pumping a pillow, but if you like to go hard, she can take it. She has no problem with a little bit of kinky or extra specifics (I like girls to smoke while I get them doggy, and she was ok with that. I also enjoy a little hard or rough and she was good with that too). So, with just the BJ, she's ok, but that's missing the real reason with her. That being said, I will now only repeat with her if there's nobody better available. She's a good time, but not an ATF at all.
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DISCRIMINATION!!
LOL!!
I guess looking like the locals can do more harm than good in this situation...damn you round eyed caucasians!
But that seriously sucks. Whats the prices like though?
I didn't get any so I can't remember what the price was but don't think it was too much or too little or it would have stayed in my memory. Go back again, he may be in a better mood next time.
Kimchi Warrior
04-02-09, 06:09
10K KRW / 100mg; if you spring for 10 or more, sometimes they throw one or two in for "service".
thanks for the vitamin prices! i might have to try again or send them non-koreans in there for a beer or two!
The Sporex is upstairs on the 8th? Floor. There are two elevator banks; one doesn't stop there. Tell 'them on the way in you want a massage. After changing they will show into the sauna with the various water tubs, etc. After you've broiled for awhile, they'll come looking for you. Sports massage is on offer in the sauna facilities, but that's not what you want; they will probably know what you want. LOL. For that you go through a small relaxation room to another part of the floor and a private room. Sensual massage w/ happy ending. You will be naked; the girl may or may not be full or partially so. You may or may not get to play anatomical discovery. You will pay 100K; may be more now; it's been awhile.I was at Sporex located at Koreana Hotel 8th floor. I had sauna and went for my massage. I waited for the girl to arrive and she was really beautiful. She was wearing a short mini-skirt with some sort of elastic pants underneath.
But she did not allow any touching. The HJ was rather mechanical and she told me: Don't touch. Can anyone tell me whether this is normal at Sporex? We are not allowed to touch the masseuse?? There was no sensuality in the massage but overall massage was good. I paid a total of $118.
Please let me know if I had a lower standard of service. BTW, i cannot speak Korean.
The Sporex is upstairs on the 8th? Floor. There are two elevator banks; one doesn't stop there. Tell 'them on the way in you want a massage. After changing they will show into the sauna with the various water tubs, etc. After you've broiled for awhile, they'll come looking for you. Sports massage is on offer in the sauna facilities, but that's not what you want; they will probably know what you want. LOL. For that you go through a small relaxation room to another part of the floor and a private room. Sensual massage w/ happy ending. You will be naked; the girl may or may not be full or partially so. You may or may not get to play anatomical discovery. You will pay 100K; may be more now; it's been awhile.I visited Sporex but the massage was good but not sensual. And the gal did not allow any touching and was not naked in any sense. Kept her clothes on alll the time. And HJ was very mechanical. I was there last night. Is there a drop in standard? And we are not allowed to touch the maseuse. Pls tell me your experience.
Thanks
I visited Sporex but the massage was good but not sensual. And the gal did not allow any touching and was not naked in any sense. Kept her clothes on alll the time. And HJ was very mechanical. I was there last night. Is there a drop in standard? And we are not allowed to touch the maseuse. Pls tell me your experience.
Thanks
I've been to the Sporex a few times now since I've been in Seoul and I've been able to feel up the masseuse and stick my hand under their skirt/short thing that they wear. I guess it depends on the girl, though. But they don't get naked, so if that's what you're looking for you'd have to go somewhere else.
There's really no point in going there just for the HJ. You're much better off going to Cool or somewhere like that. The Sporex is more for if you want to spend time using their sauna facilites and then get a professional massage that lasts over an hour from a "9" with a short HJ at the end.
I have recommended the Sporex in past reports, but much more for the massage and facilities than anything else. However, it's not somewhere I would go on a regular basis because of the cost. And I definitely wouldn't call it a sensual experience. I apologize if I made it sound like that in prior reports.
FYI: The price of the massage is now 100k, and the entrance to the sauna is about 18k.
Where is cool and what do they offer @ cool? I am new to Seoul and still not familiar with this secen yet.
Thanks for your help
Eightninesuited
04-06-09, 11:29
I've read through quite a bit here, but only found a few places and with little details. Just looking for a massage, and have a few questions.
1. Can someone recommend a few good places with some details, what I can expect, and how much?
2. What can I expect different from an anma from a typicall MP place?
I am in the express bus terminal area, but willing to travel...
Thanks for the help!
Eightninesuited + Sun1978,
Gentlemen,
With all due respect, PLEASE have a read through the forum (which has been very active recently) and you will find all the information you are looking for, including very detailed directions to Cool.
I am personally a big fan of the Sporex, but agree it do not offer much sensuality. Key point for this place is the professional massage.
Have had quite a few mongering experiences recently which will try to update on in the near future. This includes a few FS barbershops in both Hannam-dong (all of the Hannam-dong BBS's are very foreigner friendly in my experience.) and one in an area not too far from the philippino market (forgot the area name/station) but will locate it again by car. The girl was a 7/8 with a very decent pair of tits. So definitely going back!
Meanwhile, one place that is rarely mentioned here is the Capital Hotel in Dongbingo-dong near Itaewon. They have full service sauna in the basement. Service include hot tub followed by assisted wash-down, decent massage and then FS. Been twice recently, and girls been rather good, 7 maybe but service not exactly GFE.
Reverting with more updates and hope this forum can remain active!
On Sunday, tried to go to wow anma in Kangnam, near the Kyobo building. Around 8 PM, found the building and sign, but doors locked!! Was it the day of the week and/or hour, or is this placed closed?
As an aside, in the immediate building to the right, there was a sign for a sports massage. Looked promising, with a door around the back, but passed for now. Any information about wow or this place would be appreciated.
Cheers
Kimchi Warrior
04-08-09, 12:39
Apparently as a result of the recent apprehension of a Govt minister with his pants down in a Seogye-dong room salon, the police have initiated another crackdown (according to one of the Korean-language dailies). It began on the 6th and is reported to continue until the end of May. No mention in the english language press, so Unclear whether it will extend to the expat specialists in the 'ville. But caution certainly is in order for those interested in wandering off the res' into the local establishments that also may be foreigner friendly, and prudence may also apply in Itaewon.
Could someone kindly give me a break-down of the hotels in Seoul that offer massage, HJ and soapy massage or any other "services" for men? Please highlight prices as well. I am interested in visiting a place for massage in a nice hotel with young and beautiful girls.
Where is cool and what do they offer @ cool? I am new to Seoul and still not familiar with this secen yet.
Thanks for your help
You can get off at Gangnam station on the green line, Line 2, like other reports on here have suggested, but I think it is better to get off in Yangjae, orange line, Line 3. Take exit three and then walk for ten minutes or so until you get to an intersection, then make a right from there and you will see Cool to the left.
I just went to Cool today. I was going to go to Belle but the guy at the door said there was a three hour wait! I'm not sure what was going on but it was a new guy at the door that I didn't recognize. So I decided to go to Cool instead. Paid the 75k but I got the hottest girl I have seen in this country, name Hey-Young, 25 years old, big natural tits. She played with my ass a little if anyone is into that. She's there Monday to Friday. Pretty much a "10". But it still pisses me off that there's a foreigner surcharge at a HJ joint!
Tried the Yongsan RLD last week, it was half dead but found a decent girl (about 7/10) in one of the back alleys. 70k, the usual deal. A few decent looking girls were ready to go for 60k. There was a 7.5/10 who wanted 80k, I refused as always, (and I recommend we all stick to the 60-70k range), or soon all those girls are gonna start expecting 80k.
Still no reports on places north of the river?
Went to Zest this week for the first time. The logistics of finding this place are well described previously, until the very end. When you find the building and go downstairs, there are no signs for the place. Just a frosted sliding door where you need to ring a bell to enter.
Anyway, I pick the stewardess fantasy, and the girl is pretty enough. But, she does not allow ANY touching!!! WTF. She did take off the stocking finally, and then just wanted to have a regular conversation, not anything particularly sexy. I just went along with it but had a hard time concentrating with all the silly questions.
Finally, when the deed was finished, she just jumped up and asked if I wanted a shower, and took off. I had heard better things about the place, but that was not my experience. Will not return, in my opinion.
Total damage: 70k
Face: 7/10
Attitude: 3/10
Manfest, you should have reported the girl to management immediately. That's what I did when it happened to me at a similar joint else last year, and I was given a full refund or choice of another girl. Remember you're paying 70k for service, not for conversation, so don't let those girls get away with it.
Apparently as a result of the recent apprehension of a Govt minister with his pants down in a Seogye-dong room salon, the police have initiated another crackdown (according to one of the Korean-language dailies). It began on the 6th and is reported to continue until the end of May. No mention in the english language press, so Unclear whether it will extend to the expat specialists in the 'ville. But caution certainly is in order for those interested in wandering off the res' into the local establishments that also may be foreigner friendly, and prudence may also apply in Itaewon.I was thinking of going to Cool for the first time soon and this makes me a little worried. I searched through this forum extensively, but I still have a few questions that I couldn't find answers to. I've never done anything like this before, so sorry if these are dumb questions. Being deported, especially for something so embarrassing, is pretty much my worst nightmare, so I think caution is justified.
1. Someone said that Cool will never be busted as long as they only give handjobs. Is that true? Has nobody ever heard about it being raided?
2. What is the "safest" time of day/day of the week to go? When do raids usually occur?
3. How serious are crackdowns in Korea? If I'm that worried about it, should I just hold off going until June?
4. If I ever do get caught in a raid, what should I say/do? I don't speak a word of Korean. Call a Korean friend to talk to them for me?
Again, sorry if I come across as worrying too much, but I would really appreciate some answers to these questions.
Thanks
not sure if this website is being monitored or participated by the prosecution office in seoul, but for those who are considering potential sociological research into the areas mentioned in the title i highly recommend vigilance.
having rarely seen any police in gangnam i was surprised twice today.
first, as i stood outside cool, my heart started pounding and i knew something wasn't right. honest to god, two police cars drove by, one with lights and another with officers looking at me closely.
second, i was exploring the yeoksam area mentioned in another post from this website and another police car with lights flashing turns into a street just as i was cross at a very low speed.
not sure if the general policy is to follow foreigners while korean men are allowed to monger at home and abroad with immunity.
perhaps it was a giant coincidence. hard to imagine them following me on cctv from cool all the way through gangnam and up to yeoksam area.
that said, i have never partaken in these kinds of services and today probably sealed my initial plan never to do so.
either way, i am curious about other laws now. is it illegal for me to research this information? am i allowed to look at porn in this country?
perhaps i have taken some freedoms for granted. the idea of anyone watching me on the internet when i am probably the same as most other men when it comes to what i occassionally use the internet for (that is porn).
curious what the laws actually are. anyone know anything about this?
Imready777
04-11-09, 12:17
Cool
Have written several complimentary reports here (and clear directions for those of you who don’t bother to search the forum) but really cannot recommend this place now after too many bad experiences. Latest today when the girl gave the most unenthusiastic poor performance I have ever known. I almost called owner after 5 min. Did not ask for her name as she would only change it tomorrow if reported here (I dated some girls from these places and assure you none of them use real names – boss gives them a name when they start). However, waited until the end (25 min total and if she had her way it would have been 15) and told him but he was not interested. Just said sorry and that was it. Previous posters have suggested reporting girls to mama/papasan and I support that cause I found they usually listen – however maybe only at more quality places. As others have said, for the 75000won Cool is really one of the worst values in Seoul – stay away.
BELLE
Like most places hit and miss but 90% positive experience for me. Door guys are usually ok if you ask for a specific girl, or even recommend one. For 65000won the service is usually good (inc BBBJ) and you should leave happy. Only one bad experience on a busy Saturday night when the girl (min-je? ) rushed through the routine like an old professional (which maybe she was as certainly not fitting the young Belle mould like Ji-Hye and So-Hee). Recommended – but don’t you guys crowd this place cause already a few times in recent months they said a wait of couple hours was necessary so business must be good.
In fact. Cool always has space when Belle/Zest have waiting time. Wonder why!
ZEST
Not good value unless you like the uniform thing – but for 70000won you can have your ‘stewardess’ or ‘schoolgirl’ or ‘waitress’ tease you for 1 hour and in my experience they do spend all of the time playing with your mr happy. Footjob, legjob, facesitting etc available but very little touching allowed and girls are fully clothed so as I said this is not for everyone. Girls usually young and cute but not anything like model standard and usually have good attitude. Door guys don’t have much english but guy managing the place at night tries to please – even gave me free session as the girl I made reservation for was not available. That’s good service!
THAI MASSAGE
Between sinsa and nonhyeon. Service is same as Belle but the guys running this are clearly extremely anti-foreigner. Every time the first reaction is to say no entry. Although I got past this a few times and they were ok the attitude deserves no business.
KOREANA SPOREX
Well reviewed recently. For 120000won it is awful value, even granted that the massage is good quality. Also the management seem to have a very righteous attitude and not exactly friendly. Girls are usually, but not always, good looking and generally allow hand roaming but of course remain fully clothed. Most focus completely on the massage then a quick finish but a couple have actually been fun and combined a quality massage with erotic touches. But seems like that is the exception – not the normal.
ANMAS
Only tried a couple. One in Gangnam near Seoulleung good service as described here previously and super cute girl and 180K price (sorry don’t remember name). Also tried New York anma in jongno area and the quality of girl and service was awful – compared to the Gangnam anma as well as previous posts. And the cost was 220K! Also, why do they have the blind massage? Like some other posters, I suggest you just skip it.
588 CHEONGYANGNI
Interesting place but at least in my experience they are only interested in koreans. Some 50 year old back alley workers are interested, but that’s not for me.
ROOM SALON
Fun for a business night out but even here the quality ranges dramatically. First, you should of course go with Korean friends/colleagues. Service can range from just serving drinks/smalltalk/hugging (around $200 per person) to serving drinks, undressing, wild dancing naked on the table, naked karaoke, and finally BBBJ all in the same room – quite an experience (around $300 per person). Can we get an ISG forum group ready for a trip to one of these?
KOREAN NIGHTCLUB
Maybe also called booking club? Not really a place that should feature on ISG but the scene is you go as a group (with Koreans of course) and buy a table inc drinks then waiters bring girls to our table all night. They drink your beer/whisky and stay a few minutes if they don’t like you or a long time if they do. It is a cool idea and you meet all sorts – not working girls, just regular customers who get free drinks for the price of being physically dragged to specific tables by waiters). If you are lucky. .
ITAEWON
I know sometimes I complain about the korean-only attitude at some places around seoul but I encourage all you guys to branch out from Itaewon. Discover the best of Seoul?
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Eightninesuited
04-12-09, 01:52
My contribution:
Belle
Went there yesterday in the afternoon, all seemed quiet. Forked over 70k, and got down to business. I didn't get BBBJ, which I was a bit disappointed, and service was 6/10. Girl (I forgot name) had a cute face and nice body, which made up for it. I think I will try again sometime this coming week.
Wow
Strolled over there after Belle, and there is a piece of paper on the door. Seems like this place is shutdown now. The paper had some dates on there like 3/30 - 4/6, but it's a week later and still looks dead.
Itaewon
Walked around hooker hill last night and was not all that impressed. Went into a bar, talked to the girls for a bit, paid 20k for each of her drink, and girl was not all that great. Maybe not my cup of tea I guess, I prefer Anmas or Room Salon/KTV places.
Will look to head over to the anma near Seolleung area this week.
Went to zest. Yes just a hand job place, no touching above the waste (for the most part) and very limiting. BUT I found some ways to have fun. But you have to be in the right frame of mind.
I'm not a REALLY kinky guy, so I don't have a lot of fetishes, but when the other RLD places make you rush, it is nice to slow down. So first, I really like the costumes. I've done school girl, cheerleader, airline hostess and casual style. This last time was casual style and the outfit was hot. Cutoff shorts, an off-the-shoulder shirt. Really slutty.
So first, I had her pose, on the chair, on all fours on the bed. Then I had her smoke a cig. On the chair while the other hand went down her pants to play with herself.
Then, I had her get on her knees and take my dick out and start her hand job. I also made her talk "Oh, your cock is so big" "I am a dirty ****" that kind of stuff.
I was a little intoxicated and slow, so her HJ lasted 30 minutes or so, lots of oi, lots of talking and whatever else I could think of.
Oh yeah, I had seen the girl before and she remembered me, so we had built a little relationship. That doesn't mean much, except that this time I convinced her to let me put my hand inside her bra and I held her titties while she stroked me.
I also showed her a video I had on my laptop (came from work) of me fucking another Korean girl in my house. We watched that while she was doing her thing.
Yes, there is no above touching, but you can get grinding, you can simulate many positions and do all the things your girlfriend or other providers won't do.
Not a great value, but good for after a drunk night out.
A quick question: How much of an effect (positive or negative) on your ability to monger (primarily seeking FS) if you are a Korean-American with decent mastery of the language? I will be visiting Seoul for about a week next month, and I am trying to find out where I should and should not go.
I am sure a lot of non-Koreans will likely say that a guy like me should have it made since I speak the language and look the part. But it has been my experience in other countries that if you look local, there are pluses and minuses.
Any input would be appreciated.
DISCRIMINATION!!
LOL!!
I guess looking like the locals can do more harm than good in this situation...damn you round eyed caucasians!
But that seriously sucks. Whats the prices like though?
neukd,
don't worry about it. you just need to go to the right hunting grounds and be a bit more aggressive and you should do fine.
dh
I had visited Baek Song a year or two ago and had a reasonable time. It was really hot in Seoul, so I figured a stop in the anma would be good.
Got off at Yeoksam and bumbled my way around until I found the building that looked like where I went before, but it's not called Baek Song any more. In fact, I can't remember what it's called now.
I went inside and asked if this used to be Baek Song and the counter lady replied yes. I paid the entrance fee of 180k and went downstairs. Their sauna was broken and the shower dude that wiped you down was no longer there.
I got in my robe and waited until they called me. When I got in the elevator there was a girl with a mask on. I'd heard about this but never experienced it myself. She stopped the elevator midway up to my floor, opened my robe and started kissing my nipples and rubbing my cock. She then started giving me a bj and after a minute or two, put a condom on me, turned around and bent over and shoved me inside her. She told me not to cum. It was exciting as it was totally unexpected.
She then pulled the condom off, straightened out her clothes and opened the elevator door. I had a full on erection that was hard to conceal. But oh well.
I went in my room and a wonderful session with the lady there. She was cute with a nice body. Not as hot looking as I had years ago, but she made it for it with exemplary service. It was the standard shower/rinse, soapy massage w/bbbj and rimming, then shower again. More rimming, bbbj and CFS.
I would definitely go back. I'll try to jot down the new name on my next return trip.
Any other recommendations on where to try while in Seoul? Cool? Belle?
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Zackary Kr
04-15-09, 15:04
A quick question: How much of an effect (positive or negative) on your ability to monger (primarily seeking FS) if you are a Korean-American with decent mastery of the language? I will be visiting Seoul for about a week next month, and I am trying to find out where I should and should not go.
I am sure a lot of non-Koreans will likely say that a guy like me should have it made since I speak the language and look the part. But it has been my experience in other countries that if you look local, there are pluses and minuses.
Any input would be appreciated.Actually, in the case of Korea (speaking as a Korean-American myself), it's a huge plus. No doors would be closed to you nor opportunities. The better your language skills, the better your experience, in my opinion.
However, a good and easy-going attitude is always appreciated no matter where you are in the world.
BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).
Good luck!
I had visited Baek Song a year or two ago and had a reasonable time. It was really hot in Seoul, so I figured a stop in the anma would be good. [/blue][/size]I am interested in this place. Anyone knows how to get there?
Is this located in a hotel? please comment.
Thanks
Kimchi Warrior
04-15-09, 22:30
Certainly a provocative report but without the new name and, especially, any indication at all regarding how to get there, not imo worthy of cross-referencing in ROD (notwithstanding admin suggestion. Fill in the needed details, and I'll cross-post it myself.
Kimchi Warrior
04-15-09, 22:37
Actually, in the case of Korea (speaking as a Korean-American myself), it's a huge plus. No doors would be closed to you nor opportunities. The better your language skills, the better your experience, in my opinion.
However, a good and easy-going attitude is always appreciated no matter where you are in the world.
BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).
Good luck!Sound advice for ethnic Koreans regarding Itaewon. Many of the girls, especially the higher quality ones, are not welcoming of Koreans, in (large) part at least because the reason they are working in Itaewon and not elsewhere is that they want to minimize the risk of running into anyone they know.
Conversely, while helpful, Korean language skills are not likely to get the waegook into many of the places that cater to the locals. There are exceptions, many of the best of which are noted in the forum, but there are many, many more where foreigners (i.e. non-ethnic Korean) simply aren't welcome.
Kimchi Warrior
04-15-09, 23:08
My regular inamorata was unavailable last night, so I looked in on a few venues to recon for new faces.
Saw one at Nymph who, besides not being particularly attractive, had that look of needing to be broken in; I accordingly passed, as there was no one else on premises besides Yumi, who is well beyond her sell by date, to assist.
Then wandered up the Hill proper and got waylaid by Mindy at Texas and, since the trouser trout was jumping, decided to let her reel it in. I was in uber- blowjob mode, and after an hour of sampling Mindy's repertoire of sucking techniques, including some awesome DT, her jaw looked to be on the verge of permanent dislocation and her mascara was a mess from the tears that had gotten pushed out of her eyes. So while she took a break, I suggested we bring in a pinch hitter. I left it to her to make some suggestions, because (all other conditions being more or less satisfactory) I find it generally pays off to let a SP bring in someone with whom they are comfortable; anyway you can always send them away with one half-price LD if they don't impress.
Mindy invited over Jina from Tiffany Bar. Not exactly my ideal type, but Mindy claimed she was friendly and a great cocksucker who would give GFE along with head. Jina is a little saftig, as the Germans might say. Slender and shapely calves and thighs, but slightly thick through the hips and waist and chest, on which were displayed a couple of moderately soft D cups. The most striking feature of her breasts, though, was their inverted nipples, which I decided wold be a worthy challenge to try to turn inside out. As I was taking all this in, she had already gone down on her knees to give me a sample of her cocksucking skills which was promising enough to seal the deal, even though she is hardly pretty. Handsome would be a fairer description, with very nice skin, and a set of what I can only call librarian's glasses, which added a little frisson of interest, but were soon discarded as she picked up the pace of her blowjob. Her technique was outstanding. Very wet, bordering on sloppy, with a great combination of hand manipulation of the shaft and balls and tongue lashing of the glans and superb and effortless DT, She is also very much into DATY and, while Mindy took her place between my legs to resume her ministrations to my cock, dine I did, gorging on her tasty labia and relatively large clitoris until she had a shuddering orgasm, accompanied by a sudden and prodigious flow of pussy juice that nearly drowned me.
Finished off by letting Jina suck my cock again, while Mindy rimmed me and attended to my balls, until I was ready to unload which was a double CIM and facial.
A winner.
BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).
Good luck!
Why would one avoid Itaewon when seeking P4P? It's the most concentrated area in Seoul for P4P.
Actually, in the case of Korea (speaking as a Korean-American myself), it's a huge plus. No doors would be closed to you nor opportunities. The better your language skills, the better your experience, in my opinion.
However, a good and easy-going attitude is always appreciated no matter where you are in the world.
BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).
Good luck! In my humble opinion korean girls are the most beautiful girls in asia. Just going down meong dong is an eye opener in seoul. But if I didn't go to itaewon I would not have been able to screw anything there right?
On another point I did not find korean people unfriendly towards foreigners as some reports make them out to be. Or am I wrong?
I am interested in this place. Anyone knows how to get there?
Is this located in a hotel? please comment.
Never been myself, but has been written about a few times. I guess there are a few different places called Baek Song
One of the recent write ups:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=697413&postcount=3903
My regular inamorata was unavailable last night, so I looked in on a few venues to recon for new faces.
Then wandered up the Hill proper and got waylaid by Mindy at Texas and, since the trouser trout was jumping,
This is some good stuff. Keep up the good work!
Kimchi Warrior
04-16-09, 07:28
Never been myself, but has been written about a few times. I guess there are a few different places called Baek Song
One of the recent write ups:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=697413&postcount=3903Good dig. Interesting, though, insofar as the location given is totally different from the other main one that I found that locates it somewhere a couple of klicks west of the Renaissance and in the vicinity of Star Tower (now the Gangnam Finance Center). I happened to be near the latter this afternoon and had time for some pathfinding but got no joy after an hour of trooping around, since the directions were worthless (e. G. , they had the LG Building now the GS Building) behind Star Tower, when it's actually catercorner across the major thoroughfare of Teheran-no). I need to be back down there tomorrow and will try to vet this Renaissance pointer.
Never been myself, but has been written about a few times. I guess there are a few different places called Baek Song
One of the recent write ups:
http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=697413&postcount=3903Thanks.
Can anyone verify this location of Basek Song? Its supposed to be near Renaissance Hotel. I am not very familiar with Seoul myself.
Thanks
I have noticed clusters of small businesses in Seoul (usually 6-8 together) that typically have names like "Love," "She," "Amor," etc. These businesses are generally located ground floor in lower income areas, and usually they seem to be open only at night.
Most of the time they prop the door open a couple of inches, and from walking by they don't seem too busy - a few empty booths, dim lighting, and usually a 30-40 year old adjumma standing around inside waiting for a customer.
I assume these are P4P places catering to older, poorer men. I don't think they are da bang (coffee) places cause they only open at night. What services are available in these places? Anybody know? Prices? Do they service foreigners, etc?
My Korean language skills aren't good enough to inquire, unfortunately.
Back in the day, when I was enjoying Seoul; I made posts about my experiences in Jangan-Dong.
Unfortunately, it appears that it's been shut down! Now, I've RTFF, but I still can't seem to find if there are any Jangan-Dong type places out there now... I'm talking the same service, at roughly the same price (80~100K).
I will be in Korea for the entire month of May after a three year long hiatus. It would be nice to try my 'favorite' service again.
By the way, if anyone knows of any Bukchang-Dong style room salons that they'd like to go to, let me know! I might be down to go with you. Maybe Kimchi Warrior is interested?
Also, another thing that I don't see anyone posting about are the 역할대행 sites. If anyone has any info. on these, please post! I would do it myself, but unfortunately every site requires a membership (which of course, requires a Korean nat'l ID number).
Thanks, and hope to see some of you in the next few weeks.
Jack Rabbit
04-19-09, 03:19
It seems the crackdown will continue until the end of May. My regular anma in Sinchon has very few talent working, with "no guarantee" that police will not raid the place. Was kind of stressful. Mia has shut down many establishments (at least during the week). Even my regular Kangnam anma has taken time off. Itaewon appears to have the regular older women, however, the younger, hotter ones seem to have taken a break.
It's spring time, and the miniskirts are driving me mental. I need some new venues to unload, where I don't have to worry that the 5-0 will come a knocking.
Kimchi Warrior
04-19-09, 11:09
It seems the crackdown will continue until the end of May. My regular anma in Sinchon has very few talent working, . Itaewon appears to have the regular older women, however, the younger, hotter ones seem to have taken a break. I haven't noticed any fall-off in talent in the ville, rather the reverse: many new faces. And my regular, who is certainly in the younger, hotter category, has reported that there is little worry about the current police action being extended there.
This makes sense, given that the trigger for the latest police announcement was the bust of a govt minister in a midtown room salon (probably on a tip). Even the anma districts seem OK. I was doing LRRP in the two near Seollung Stations and the Renaissance at the end of the week. Saw what struck me as an unusual number of coppers walking around. Mostly higher ranking officers. But having found "Call" wandered in to do some original research instead of lunch (just a different kind of lunch, really) and found no apprehension on the part of the staff whatsoever. Full AAR on "Call" and IB (with pics) on the two areas, including the likely location of the apparently re-named Baek Sung, to follow.
Kimchi Warrior
04-20-09, 09:01
As promised, here are the results of my LRRP to Soellung Station to map out anma locations.
After the previous day's frustration following the worthless directions that located Baek Sung in the vicinity of Star Tower, I decided to begin a new day of recon testing the directions found elsewhere in the Forum for "Call".
They were better but still wrong. After you exit Soellung Station at the most northeasterly access stair (#10), you will find yourself in front of the Bokwang Building. Walk east (the direction you're facing when you exit) along the north side of Teheran-no. You should go to the intersection of the SECOND sidestreet (not the first, as previously reported). You'll know you're at the right place if (as correctly reported earlier) you see the KTF Building across the street to your right on the south side of Teheran-no and a Seven Monkeys Coffee Shop on the opposite corner straight ahead of you. Turn left. Straight ahead about three blocks you should see the opening to a park. If you're looking for "Call", walk down to the second alley on the left and turn left. "Call" is on the right side less than 100 meters in. It's a 5-6 story red brick building with a sort of half tower on the left hand of the front facade. A few more yards on, there is another anma on the left in a sort of granite fortress style building.
I ended up having a session in "Call", which was more than satisfactory, and perhaps I'll report on that later, but for the moment I want to concentrate on the geography, which is quite interesting. For if, instead of turning right to go to Call, one turns right on the first, second or third of the alleyways off the side street, one is transported to a veritable wonderland of anmas. I counted at least twelve in in three very short alleyways. None of which I"ve seen profiled in th forum. Ialso took a bunch of pictures of them, which I'll try to upload when time permits. In the meantime, instead of my earlier suggestion of a group Bukcheong style room salon outing, perhaps we should consider spelunking among the offerings in this treasure trove. Although I suspect we'll need a Korean point man to smooth the way. Are you ready for designation as assistant squad leader, Dizz?
Part 2, dealing with the lay of the land around the Renaissance, and the possible discovery of Baek Sung, follows.
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I have noticed clusters of small businesses in Seoul (usually 6-8 together) that typically have names like "Love," "She," "Amor," etc. These businesses are generally located ground floor in lower income areas, and usually they seem to be open only at night.
Most of the time they prop the door open a couple of inches, and from walking by they don't seem too busy - a few empty booths, dim lighting, and usually a 30-40 year old adjumma standing around inside waiting for a customer.
I assume these are P4P places catering to older, poorer men. I don't think they are da bang (coffee) places cause they only open at night. What services are available in these places? Anybody know? Prices? Do they service foreigners, etc?
My Korean language skills aren't good enough to inquire, unfortunately.Yeah, I have noticed these places as well. There are a couple of them down the street from where I live and when I have walked by there and the doors have been open I have seen fairly young girls in there, but no stunners though. But when they see me they make no effort to call me in which leads me to believe they are not foreigner friendly places. That's also why I never bothered to inquire, but I guess they are some kind of hostess bars similar to what you can find on the hill in Itaewon.
Kimchi Warrior
04-21-09, 05:12
After my excursion in the back alleys of Soellung Station and a little R&R at "Call", I headed over to the Renaissance to recon for the much talked about Baek Sung.
I walked from the Seollung Station area more or less due West, meandering a bit, though, as I kept to the parallel side streets and alleys north of Teheran-no. Not really keeping cover, since as the proverbial big-nose, blue eyed round eye, I stand out more back there than along the boulevard, where there's always a sprinkling of weiguk-saram. Just wanted to see what else might be back there; only interesting discovery was a few of the so-called "bikini bars" that have sprung up in the past year or so. None were open in the early afternoon, though, so nothing to report, except that. It took about ten minutes.
For those comng from further afield, and automotively-challenged, your best bets are either Seollung Station or Yeoksam Station on the subway. From Seollung, leave by the most northwesterly exit (sorry, don't know the exit #, but you want a little challenge don; t you? ), and proceed west along the northside of the big boulevard, Teheran-no, a few blocks until you reach the Renaissance Hotel. As I said it's about a ten minute walk, and the Hotel can't be missed.
For those getting off at Yeoksam, do the reverse: exit at the most northeasterly access stairway and walk due east along the northside of Teheran-no until you reach the hotel. It's probably a little closer to Yeosam than Seollung.
When you get to the Hotel go to the side street running north along its west side. For those who are directionally-challenged, look for the Buy the Way convenience store that is on te corner of the side street and Teheran-no.
The usual suspects are all located on the three alleys that run west (left) and generally uphill off the side street. There are at least a dozen or more establishments, and they are that: most are 5-6 story buildings of substantial size.
According to a previous poster, the renowned Baek Sung is on the second alley about a third to halfway up in a Mediterranean-style building. I didn't see anything I would describe as Mediterranean, but there was a building in a sort of pastiche of late Renaissance-eraly Baroque style, with vestigial ironwork balconies tacked onto the windows on the front facade, in the indicated location. If it is indeed the former Baek Song, it's now called Myeong Ka, but the sign (over the door) is in Hangul. The other principal visual features are the main entrance at the lower right hand corner of the building, flanked on the left side by 2 or 3 narrow display windows behind which are mannequins decked out in elaborate feathered gowns, nest to which is the car park with the famous Korean "modesty curtains".
I'll try to post pictures of this and the other facades from the Renaissance and Seollung cachement areas next.
In the meantime, a renewed call for volunteers, including at least one ethnic Korean point man, for a flying squad to systematically check these places out for foreigner-friendliness and nature and quality of services.
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Kimchi Warrior
04-21-09, 10:50
From today's Korea Times:
"Ward Offices Step Up Fight Against Brothels
By Park Si-soo
Staff Reporter
A growing number of ward offices are intensifying their campaign to crack down on sex businesses operating ostensibly as massage parlors and other legal entities.
The ward office in Gangnam, where such massage parlors and room salon businesses thrive, said Monday it will form a taskforce to inspect more than 350 suspicious businesses and utilize administrative countermeasures to root them out.
``Those caught selling sex will face harsher punishment, including business suspension and closure,'' a Gangnam ward office official told The Korea Times. ``This cleanup drive will continue indefinitely until such illegal business completely disappear from this town.''
Gangnam has emerged as a major hotbed of prostitution following the police crackdown on Jangan-dong ㅡ a major red-light district in Seoul ㅡ starting November last year, which succeeded in driving most brothels there out of business but eventually motivating them to cluster in the new ``sanctuary'' of Gangnam.
``If necessary, we will cooperate with police and relevant offices,'' the official said.
Other ward offices in Yongsan, Seoul and Suwon City, Gyeonggi Province are also joining in the cleanup campaign."Not sure that this is anything particularly new or just the belated appearance in the english language press of more of the story around the arrest of a government official in a room salon a couple weeks ago; the print version of the story specifically referred to an extension of the immediate crackdown on April 16-17 following the incident.
Moreover, the focus of this campaign seems to be on the businesses rather than the SPs and customers; NB the reference to administrative measures designed to suspend business licenses, etc. On the other hand, it probably wouldn't be pleasant to be the guy whose activities provided the evidence of the predicate act that would justify such administrative measures.
Still, no mention from my sources on the ground about any particular bust being in the works; it's remarkable how the word generally gets out to the venues and SPs ahead of time so everyone can go to ground when the actual enforcement action is to take place; the exception seems to be when someone is already in the cross-hairs, and the powers that be are looking for a way to bring down their prey with maximum loss of face.
Anyway, just thought you'd all like to know.
Thanks, Le Lion. Yeah the lady/ladies standing inside these places don't seem very friendly. They probably don't see many foreigners walking by here in north east Seoul where I live. I occasionally see a drunk middle age Korean man stumble out with a grin on his face. Maybe they are handjob places or assisted masturbation places? I assume they are for ladies past their prime who can't work in the other places.
Fatboy 1980
04-22-09, 06:01
I went to Miari yesterday afternoon for a session. I paid 100,000 for 2 shots and picked a nice slim girl with decent B-cups.
Anyway, after the first round she went for a shower. I waited almost 20 minutes for her to return and when she did she told me to be quiet. I asked her what was wrong and in our broken English/Korean exchange, she told me that there was a Korean man in the building, and he didn't like waygookins going there. I don't know if this man was a customer, or some kind of pimp.
She also said that he would call the police if he knew I was there. That part sounded like BS to me, but maybe he would have caused some kind of shit if he saw me.
So, this is just a warning for any foreigners thinking of going there.
Both at Miari and Cheyongyang ni (588). These Korean working girls really fear the Korean men, but I think it is because the men have an inferiority complex (or racism issues) and the girls just don't want to lose them as customers.
No problem: just pound/stroke in silence (stealth mode) until the drunk bastard leaves! It is a win-win situation, hehe! Really can't blame the girls since we are really only a small part of their customer base.
It reminds me of what the what the working girls in the Philippines call the Korean customers. "one, two, three men" (one minute of sex with a two inch dick and they pay three times more than they should, haha! ). Keep it in perspective!
Stroke on!
I have a question,
I went to Cool, got a girl, 'Connected' (as much as one can do when paying) and I asked her if she would come back to my house. After a while I convinced her to come to my place to drink wine. We agreed on a date, I gave her my phone number and we're supposed to meet.
If this happens (I'm not counting on it) what should I expect? I'm not really looking to date and start a relationship with this girl. I just want her to come back to my house so maybe we can do things that we can't do in the establishment. I made it obvious. I offered to pay her or just wine and dine her, but seriously, I want to get at it at the end of the night.
Has anyone else seen girls outside? Am I going to have to take this slow or if she's coming over, does she know what I want? She seemed to say, no sex, no kissing, just drink wine. And I am thinking, fuck that. .
What do you think?
I have a question,
I went to Cool, got a girl, 'Connected' (as much as one can do when paying) and I asked her if she would come back to my house. After a while I convinced her to come to my place to drink wine. We agreed on a date, I gave her my phone number and we're supposed to meet.
If this happens (I'm not counting on it) what should I expect? I'm not really looking to date and start a relationship with this girl. I just want her to come back to my house so maybe we can do things that we can't do in the establishment. I made it obvious. I offered to pay her or just wine and dine her, but seriously, I want to get at it at the end of the night.
Has anyone else seen girls outside? Am I going to have to take this slow or if she's coming over, does she know what I want? She seemed to say, no sex, no kissing, just drink wine. And I am thinking, fuck that. .
What do you think?
I saw a girl from Belle a few times (weekend Christina) and I never ended up banging her. We just went to Outback Steakhouse and cafes and stuff to hang out and chat. In the end I think she was just using me to improve her English, since she was studying to be a flight attendant for Emirates. One "date" she even brought her listening homework and she was asking me questions about the vocabulary!
I guess what I'm saying is, don't expect sex. I mean, isn't that why they work at HJ places in the first place, because they don't want to give up the pussy? They could be making a lot more money working at a RLD if they went all the way I think.
Anyways, good luck, but if she breaks out her homework from YBM, don't say I didn't warn you!
Kimchi Warrior
04-23-09, 06:49
Has anyone else seen girls outside? Am I going to have to take this slow or if she's coming over, does she know what I want? She seemed to say, no sex, no kissing, just drink wine. And I am thinking, fuck that. .
What do you think?I think you already know the answer is, essentially, YMMV.
I see my most regular regular regularly on the "outside" (as well as on the "inside" of her club). On the inside, I pay full freight. On the outside I don't pay. Actually, that's not quite right since I usually foot the tab for dinner, theatre, film, hotel for the weekend, whatever, although she occasionally takes the initiative to pay too, e. G. , a mighty fine birthday dinner for me and another outstanding meal on the "anniversary" of our first meeting (on the inside), both accompanied by nice gifts and, later, even nicer GFE/PSE fucks of truly superlative quality. The pattern was set sometime early on in out "relationship".- after about our third or fourth meeting.- when the more or less simultaneous realization that we really clicked together sexually led. Particularly on her part. To an openness to treating the situation as more than just a simple commercial proposition. This rapidly led to my getting invited to her home and a level of "service" way above the norm, both on and off the job. These days, I reckon it's about 50% P4P and 50% "free" or her pay.
In any case, as my best friend, has said, I've found the proverbial *****/GF and am one lucky fuck, particularly as despite the intense connection she's not clingy. In fact has ocassionally arranged threesomes and/or other assignations for me when she's "busy".
Whether you'll find something similar depends entirely on the girl's attitude and yours. I like cultivating these sorts of liaisons and I've been fortunate enough to find a WG whose fancy I've managed to strike sufficiently to get somewhat special treatment, in no small part (I think) because I don't treat her just as a paid ejaculatory engineer/cum receptacle.
Seriously, f that. Don't waste your time.
You can pick up providers in Itaewon if that's your cup of tea.
I have a question,
I went to Cool, got a girl, 'Connected' (as much as one can do when paying) and I asked her if she would come back to my house. After a while I convinced her to come to my place to drink wine. We agreed on a date, I gave her my phone number and we're supposed to meet.
If this happens (I'm not counting on it) what should I expect? I'm not really looking to date and start a relationship with this girl. I just want her to come back to my house so maybe we can do things that we can't do in the establishment. I made it obvious. I offered to pay her or just wine and dine her, but seriously, I want to get at it at the end of the night.
Has anyone else seen girls outside? Am I going to have to take this slow or if she's coming over, does she know what I want? She seemed to say, no sex, no kissing, just drink wine. And I am thinking, fuck that. .
What do you think?
Sfinil, good question. First, as you said, chances are that she won't call. If she does though, nothing to worry about, she wants you, so let her come. Now the problem is this: if she does like you, why haven't you banged her inside that HJ/massage place yet? It's technically 'forbidden', but I've done it in the past with several girls (not in Cool, never been there) so it's definitely possible.
Also, some advice to avoid getting stuck in an Outback steakhouse or coffee shop helping some useless girl with her Englishee: first, why on earth are you in a family restaurant with her? If she wants you, it's unnecessary, taking her to KFC for a coke would work just the same. If she doesn't want you, then how is taking her to Outback going to change anything? Dates + Restaurants are for real girlfriends, period. In my experience, a short evening meeting anywhere cheap is enough to evaluate the girl's intentions: don't rush, but make a move at some point and see how she reacts. Then follow your guts: if youre not feeling it, no second date. If she's receptive, or at least doesn't freak out, then you're in.
Yongsan rld is closed. I walked thru on Thursday evening and all the lights were out with LEO lounging around the entrances.
Ok, I have RTFFDOT (dozens of times) and I can't figure out where Belle is. I ended up at cool, but I have walked up and down as many streets as I can around the Prudential Building (And whoever said he just happened to see Belle as he was walking. You must have some pretty good eyes). Please, someone give directions from Gangnam Station. Seriously. I've been out twice with no luck.
BTW, I live across from Zest in Gangnam and go there every once in a while when it's too cold to take the bus to a RLD. There was a sign in Korean on the door and no answer. Could be closed for the night, or good. Not sure.
Seoul Food
04-24-09, 18:17
3 date rule in Korea.
If you aren't banging on the third date, move on.
3 date rule in Korea.
If you aren't banging on the third date, move on.
confirm -
By the way this 3 date rule isn't restricted to Korea. It’s almost a global rule across he globe, (not counting strict Moslem countries here, where you wouldn't even consider dating).
One more Korean common praxis/ experience, (more a hint also):
You should date in a way that some dating across the dating course takes place in your apartment, for whatever good reason you may have - be creative.
My common experience in Korea: if she is once in your apartment and door to outside world is closed, then you can almost bet 100% you will bang her.
Girls are time restricted here and live at home at her parents and rather rare will stay over night, but also have needs for sex, while still need to go home anyhow later.
This can create amazing effects for westerners inexperienced with Korean girls like: you may not even have kissed her during your being together during your dating, but it is not an exception that about 5 minutes after you entered the apartment you may both be out of the clothes and start banging already.
So don't run an over romantic strategy in the sense of western women approach.
Korean girls thinks this way: She agreed to come with and sex is definitely not excluded and also she has to go back home anyhow. So she doesn't want to waste too much time with chatting, drinking etc. So approach rather quickly then slow, when in your apartment.
When doing sex you can spend your time and when you take care of here while doing so and give her high attention you ma easily be the top guy in her life so far and she wants more and more and more as a result.
Please consider.
3 dates and no progress aren’t worth more dating. Recheck if you play over romantic.
Regards
Brain666
Sorry, didn't go through all reports on that subject before I wrote the last comment. So here some more comments.
@ Sfinil:
This is connected to what I wrote and experienced:
Most of the time a girl in Korea agreed to come to your room, she will be ready for sex at the end and kind of expecting it. If she wouldn't at all be interested, she wouldn't consider to come. So when she comes, then she is also most probably ready for sex. Previous talks are regarding coffe only (not sure if I understood correrctly) are just bullshit. You shouldn't discuss such things upfont.
Make the visit for her interesting and tell her you have a wine which you think fits to her. In such a case, I made best experience with a rose wine. A rose can create a good atmosphere, especially if you can tell some story why you think it fits to her.
You can also buy a piece of none heavy cake (e.g. there are some strwaberry cake snacks at Hyatt hotel Bakery) as another opener.
If atmosphere starts smoothly, it won't take long and you can move to the bedroom. Have a story in mind that you want to show her something in your appartment (which turns then out to be actually in the bedroom). There should be really something on display you can tell a funny/ interesting story about and around (don't foget to bring the glasses). I am sure it will work.
If she missunderstood your intention and doesn't want any contact when you start then approaching, then just forget it and let her go. Not worth to bother further then.
Key is really more, if she really will call you and confirms thd date (didn't you secure her phone number??, whats that for a strategy, korean girls easily give her phone number, that brings you in passive then active position).
As said: if she will come to you, you will most probably end up 'coming'.
@Ezinho:
3 dates and no progress isn't worth more efforts. You should work on your approach strategy! Dating in in Outback 1 time may be ok, but 3 times? As I mentioned before, you should plan the dating in a way, that this includes visiting your appartment for some reason, even if it is just to pick up your car key. Should have happened already the 2nd. time.
Give her a last chance and if you can't prepare her for beeing interested to visit your home for some reason, then its not worth any further effort. She will know that it is time to decide: fuck him or not, and you will know that when she is not interested to visit you, that time has come for you to move on and target next candidate.
Regards
Brain666
I went to Miari yesterday afternoon for a session. I paid 100,000 for 2 shots and picked a nice slim girl with decent B-cups.
Anyway, after the first round she went for a shower. I waited almost 20 minutes for her to return and when she did she told me to be quiet. I asked her what was wrong and in our broken English/Korean exchange, she told me that there was a Korean man in the building, and he didn't like waygookins going there. I don't know if this man was a customer, or some kind of pimp.
She also said that he would call the police if he knew I was there. That part sounded like BS to me, but maybe he would have caused some kind of shit if he saw me.
So, this is just a warning for any foreigners thinking of going there.
This has happened to me so many times it does not even phase me anymore. Not that it ever did anyway, but it is unsettleing the first time.
One funny time in an An Ma, I was on my way out and the mama rushed me into a door and told me to lie down and be quiet. Funny part, this was were the girls were sleeping, so I suddenly found myself laying down in between three girls laying down watching TV. Two Koreans and one Filipina. The filipina smiled at me and we kind of had wispering conversation for a few minutes.
Reflecting back now, kinda weird these chicks just lay around in these tiny rooms waiting for some guy to come along and fuck them. Nice looking girl though. I always seem to get rushed in and out of these places though by some Korean who doesn't want anyone to see me. So do I really look that bad?? heheh
take care over there, getting laid over here is way too difficult.
oh yea, and the third date rule is worldwide
Fatboy 1980
04-26-09, 03:27
This might sound like a real newbie question, but is it risky to pay for services using a card? I was in Itaewon last night and I had no cash, so I used my bank card. If these places get busted, could it come back to me?
Daviddawkins
04-26-09, 04:48
I wanted to post a warning.
By the way, the posting of late has been good. Keep it up.
Returning to the warning.
The sex shop, the one as you walk towards hangangjin stn, offers vitamins, however, they are expired product, by almost a year.
Does anyone know if the other shop on the hill offers legit vitamins, perhaps another shop?
This might sound like a real newbie question, but is it risky to pay for services using a card? I was in Itaewon last night and I had no cash, so I used my bank card. If these places get busted, could it come back to me?
It could, next time try the ATMs in the 7-11 type stores to make a withdrawal.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=804265&postcount=4185
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=583355&postcount=190
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=805909&postcount=4192
Kimchi Warrior
04-26-09, 06:09
I wanted to post a warning.
The sex shop, the one as you walk towards hangangjin stn, offers vitamins, however, they are expired product, by almost a year.
Does anyone know if the other shop on the hill offers legit vitamins, perhaps another shop?When did you attempt a purchase?
I've never had this issue with them.
Kimchi Warrior
04-26-09, 06:17
This might sound like a real newbie question, but is it risky to pay for services using a card? I was in Itaewon last night and I had no cash, so I used my bank card. If these places get busted, could it come back to me?Of course, the mere use of a credit card in such an establishment falls short of proof of having done anything illegal, still, as described in the posts listed in a previous response, it could elicit heightened scrutiny and, if LEO, is determined to get you, will provide evidence of identity and presence to corroborate the testimoney that they will squeeze from the SP, which in the end is what will sink your boat.
Now, why don;t you tell us more about what you purcjased with your cc last night? Inquiring minds want to know.
If your credit card is Korean then they can track you down.
But with foreign cards the police cannot track.
By the way yongsan Rld is open again.
This might sound like a real newbie question, but is it risky to pay for services using a card? I was in Itaewon last night and I had no cash, so I used my bank card. If these places get busted, could it come back to me?
It depends on what services you played for. With regular hostess bars it should be no problem. For the special hill services I don't know.
I wouldn't expect a problem, so don't be over nervous. Also if it was a foreign issued card, it may be more complicated for Korean authorities, then a Korean issued card. But as said. Don’t be over nervous.
My pre caution: I always intend to pay cash in general and will not enter a shop w/o a pre defined budget. This is just for safety.
In doubt I rather would take cash advance from a credit card at an ATM instead of paying the bill with credit card at an erotic service place. Even if this is not the best most efficient use. As a European we have the good and rather cheap way of using the EC service which is actually MAESTRO cash advance service.
Korean Banks close 22:00h mostly, but 365 bank and the convenient stores have longer opening (at convenient stores probably around the clock). So my advice: better to catch up cash before entering services.
But again: don’t be over afraid, just prepare better next time.
Regards
Brain666
This has happened to me so many times it does not even phase me anymore. Not that it ever did anyway, but it is unsettleing the first time.
One funny time in an An Ma, I was on my way out and the mama rushed me into a door and told me to lie down and be quiet. Funny part, this was were the girls were sleeping, so I suddenly found myself laying down in between three girls laying down watching TV. Two Koreans and one Filipina. The filipina smiled at me and we kind of had wispering conversation for a few minutes.
Reflecting back now, kinda weird these chicks just lay around in these tiny rooms waiting for some guy to come along and fuck them. Nice looking girl though. I always seem to get rushed in and out of these places though by some Korean who doesn't want anyone to see me. So do I really look that bad?? heheh
take care over there, getting laid over here is way too difficult.
oh yea, and the third date rule is worldwide
It didn't happen to me so obvious as mentioned, but in general, they try to avoid that Korean customers come in too much close contact or notice that foreigners are served here. They do it more or less sucessfull. For me it isn't that bad. I see, that the alternative would be to not serve foreigners when the fear is to bad, so I just accept this and with a smile it's way easier to handle.
regards
Brain666
I wanted to post a warning.
By the way, the posting of late has been good. Keep it up.
Returning to the warning.
The sex shop, the one as you walk towards hangangjin stn, offers vitamins, however, they are expired product, by almost a year.
Does anyone know if the other shop on the hill offers legit vitamins, perhaps another shop?
not that i coinsiderd this yet: but does anybody know, how much the oroginal cialis and Viagra cost in Korea.
So why not just to get a dotcors prescription.
You may pay some fee in advance, but at the end it would onle be to get a new prescription.
regards
Brain666
With the crack down going on, are most of the RLDs closed down? I saw one report of Yongsan being closed. I would like to come into Seoul for some play and would like to check out Miari or make my way up north to Yongjugol. If anyone can confirm whether these RLDs are closed or not, I'd appreciate it very much.
I know Cool is popular. Actually, I don't know if people really enjoy it. But either way, I'm done with it. I went for the second time today and 75, 000 won is too much for what I get.
First the Good. The Girl tonight (Eun Bee) was a knock out, a 9 or a 10. She had the most incredible ass, and not an ass like Bin in Itaewon where she has a big ass because she's a big girl. Eun Bee is very slim and yet, I could still cup her ass in my hand and jiggle it (that's not an easy feat with Korean Girls). Anyway, she also allowed kissing. No tongue, but long closed mouth kisses were ok, unlike the other girl at Cool. And again, unlike Zest or Mint in Ilsan, she took her top off and I could feel, fondle, and suckle.
The Bad: Crappy massage. If I'm going to pay 75, 000 (more than FS at the RLDs), then I want a complete experience. I've been to other rub and tugs, and although some aren't aas personal and don't include what I just mentioned, this is the second time at Cool where the girl gave a half ass massage. I have real aches and pains and for 75, 000 I should get those taken care of as well. Also, I like when places do a sensual teasing massage. You know massaging my legs and thighs and gently letting a finger brush by my balls to keep me interested. This was 5 minutes of a bad massage and then 'turn over' and then a HJ. Not bad, but a waste of money considering I could be getting her from behind in a RLD. Not worth it.
Sound advice for ethnic Koreans regarding Itaewon. Many of the girls, especially the higher quality ones, are not welcoming of Koreans, in (large) part at least because the reason they are working in Itaewon and not elsewhere is that they want to minimize the risk of running into anyone they know.
Conversely, while helpful, Korean language skills are not likely to get the waegook into many of the places that cater to the locals. There are exceptions, many of the best of which are noted in the forum, but there are many, many more where foreigners (i.e. non-ethnic Korean) simply aren't welcome.Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately my hotel reservation is in itaewon, and I would prefer not having to travel far in case I drink. I will not be driving so it will be subway, bus or taxi for me. Any recommendations since I will be staying in itaewon?
As for the "higher quality" will it help if I say that I am just visiting? I noticed that in the US, it helps if you are local since you are likely to be a repeater.
neukd,
don't worry about it. you just need to go to the right hunting grounds and be a bit more aggressive and you should do fine.
dhWell it has been several years since I have been to Korea and more than several years since I had a chance to P4P while in Korea.
If you (or anyone else) is willing to point me in the right direction, I will be staying in itaewon starting 5/14 and will be looking for some action after 5:30pm on 5/15 or 5/16 (not quite sure when I will be done with my work).
I am hoping that the people I am working with will take me out at least once to a Rsalon, or anywhere else, but I am not sure it will happen.
If anyone needs a korean pointman who isn't familiar with the landscape, but can speak the language, let me know.
Actually, in the case of Korea (speaking as a Korean-American myself), it's a huge plus. No doors would be closed to you nor opportunities. The better your language skills, the better your experience, in my opinion.
However, a good and easy-going attitude is always appreciated no matter where you are in the world.
BTW, avoid itaewon if you looking for p4p (namely, Hooker Hill).
Good luck!Which direction is hooker hill?
I will be staying at the hotel right in front of the itaewon subway station.
I am hoping that the people I am working with will take me out at least once to a Rsalon, or anywhere else, but I am not sure it will happen.
Being in Itaewon you are virtually in the middle of Seoul and thus everyrthing is accessible from your location and since you can speak Korean, it should easy for you.
If anything, ask your colleagues after a few drinks and I'm sure they can recommend where the locals like to frequent these days.
As for the "higher quality" will it help if I say that I am just visiting? I noticed that in the US, it helps if you are local since you are likely to be a repeater.
Usually with most businesses a steady source of revenue is always a good thing so i would recommend you harden up and pretend that you come often for "business" reasons instead of "visiting".
Which direction is hooker hill?
I will be staying at the hotel right in front of the itaewon subway station.
That would be Hamilton Hotel, step out of the hotel cross the street and turn left at the first alley/street. Go all the way up pass the first intersection to get on the top of the hill but if you turn right at the intersection there are some clubs on that street too.
Kimchi Warrior
04-27-09, 06:57
Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately my hotel reservation is in itaewon, and I would prefer not having to travel far in case I drink. I will not be driving so it will be subway, bus or taxi for me. Any recommendations since I will be staying in itaewon?
As for the "higher quality" will it help if I say that I am just visiting? I noticed that in the US, it helps if you are local since you are likely to be a repeater.Hh in response to your other question is up the street next to the Fire Station. The Hill proper is on the first alley to the left, but there are also clubs on either side of the main street as you go up, especially near the top just below the turn-off to the left for the third alleyway (Cabin, Moulin Rouge, Nymph, ING, Peach Phuzz, Apple, etc), as well as a couple of past their sell by date places down the first alley to the right. The second alley on the left is probably off your itinerary unless you like adam's apples, large hands and extra bits of plumbing. Which can also be found at a few places on the "hill", e. G. , Madrid (although the inhabitant there is missing the fire hose).
The answer to the quoted question is YMMV. If you don't quite look like a Korean Korean or a longterm Gyopo returnee (likely, I'm told, if you've lived abroad for a good while) and seem to the SP to speak colloquial english (and not Konglish) you may do alright. Take a shot! You don't have much to lose except a few minutes of your time. Best bets for the high quality (and (relatively) high-priced spread are Peach Phuzz (the potentially most expensive and most selective), Ambrosia and Texas (only there generally after 10-11)
Well, was on the Hooker Hill this again this weekend and I must say I had a great time. I think I have been in most of the places on the hill the past couple of years and I have my favorite girls. Yall know, Mindy and her friend that works at the first bar coming from the bottom on the left. Well, I like to walk through from time to time to see if there is any new blood. You know some that just comes in from time to time to make some quick cash, and was I surprised. I ran into a girl name Kelly on Saturday night. I forgot the name of the bar but its the first one on the right coming from the bottom of the hill. She around 30 but still looks good. Cute face, nice firm ass and tits too though. Man does she give a great slooooww blow job. The sex was a lot of fun too. She definately was not in a rush. Will definately go back if I see her again. You all have fun out there and remember that the Hill isn't so bad. Can have great times there and many are down for hooking up outside the bars if your cool and polite to them.
Kimchi Warrior
04-28-09, 00:51
I ran into a girl name Kelly on Saturday night. I forgot the name of the bar but its the first one on the right coming from the bottom of the hill. She around 30 but still looks good. Cute face, nice firm ass and tits too though. Man does she give a great slooooww blow job. The sex was a lot of fun too. She definately was not in a rush. Will definately go back if I see her again. You all have fun out there and remember that the Hill isn't so bad. Can have great times there and many are down for hooking up outside the bars if your cool and polite to them.In guess you're talking about VIP. A joint I generally avoid because it's a barracuda pool. But I think I noticed the same SP there 5-6 weeks ago. I was seriously tempted, but was already on another mission, so passed, making a mental note to return. On the several later occasions when I did, though, I couldn't find the SP in question. I think, as you suggest, that she is one of the more casual players, probably driven into the game by the economic downturn.
Glad you had fun :) Kelly's cool. I've known her off and on for about 5 years. She's been in and out of the game for a while. I didn't know she was spending time at VIP, although she worked there a couple years ago. I think her usual haunt these days is the Moonlight, just up the Hill from VIP. She's been out of my rotation for a while but I chat with her and have a drink when I have time to kill; like I said, she's a pretty cool chick. Great FS and BJ, although she isn't into anything too kinky (if u don't count a little ass slapping).
Peace,
Korvet
... I ran into a girl name Kelly on Saturday night. I forgot the name of the bar but its the first one on the right coming from the bottom of the hill. She around 30 but still looks good. Cute face, nice firm ass and tits too though. Man does she give a great slooooww blow job. The sex was a lot of fun too. She definately was not in a rush. Will definately go back if I see her again.
Adventurous Abc
04-29-09, 18:26
The answer to the quoted question is YMMV. If you don't quite look like a Korean Korean or a longterm Gyopo returnee (likely, I'm told, if you've lived abroad for a good while) and seem to the SP to speak colloquial english (and not Konglish) you may do alright. Take a shot! You don't have much to lose except a few minutes of your time. Best bets for the high quality (and (relatively) high-priced spread are Peach Phuzz (the potentially most expensive and most selective), Ambrosia and Texas (only there generally after 10-11)So, if I'm reading this right, outside of Itaewon the more Korean you seem the better, but in Itaewon the more American you seem the better?
Kimchi Warrior
04-30-09, 00:45
So, if I'm reading this right, outside of Itaewon the more Korean you seem the better, but in Itaewon the more American you seem the better? Bingo! In fact, outside the 'ville, there are far more places than not that will refuse a foreigner than invite him in and, as reported earlier, even in the places that are "foreigner-friendly" there's a high likelihood of having to put up with the mood-busting "hide from the ego-challenged local male chauvinist" syndrome. Overseas Koreans have a better chance in Itaewon, but they have to work it. I cruised up the hill late yesterday afternoon while in the 'Won on other business to see what sort of matinee partners might be available. Most places weren't open, but a surprising number were, suggesting that business is bad enough to have induced the SPs to keep earlier and longer hours. The other signs were the invitations to come in and have a drink or three on the house. One of which I accepted purely to be sociable. LOL. I used the time to chat up the two girls there about business in general, LEO's recently publicized sweeps, etc. Etc. They confirmed that business was down, which was confirmed by their repeatedly outnegotiating themselves for "a good time" by steadily lowering their offer price while I said and did nothing except drink my free Hennessey and see how low they would go. End result was a threesome offer for 2 hours for KRW 200K, which I declined as I simply wasn't switched on; might have gone lower if I stayed around longer. They also said that, newspaper reports of closer police scrutiny notwithstanding there has been no recent LEO acitivity on the Hill, except that occasioned by the incidental dust-up between drunk foreigners. Finally, in response to my direct question, both confirmed their active unwillingness to have anything to do with local Koreans and their generally reluctant but very cautious willingess to consider an overseas Korean who doesn't seem like he's re-assimilated to the characteristic (bad) behavior of bona fide members of the local tribe, which they described in some detail. Don't shoot the messenger, guys, just passing along the intel.
Also noticed some new faces in a couple of the places at the high end of the Hill in the last block of joints on the left as you're going up. At least one looked like a potentially tasty morsel indeed.
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Leviathan73
04-30-09, 11:49
Lotsa clock-watchers and 20-minute girls. Hurry hurry hurry are you finished? It's cheaper than the Hill but that's a lotta hassle for 70. There are a few providers up there with great racks and an ass to match. There are also a lot of older women who should be payin me. A few of them were oldies but goodies tho'. One had a nice rack and quoted 50. Shied away wondering why the price was so low. Even one of the main row girls tried to flag me down, but I figured she was gonna quote something like 150 or more for the usual time. Did I mention I hate to hurry? Fifteen minutes? I told she was crazee.
The hill is okay, the girls at Lily are my type. A little heavy with d-cups. The skinny girls on the hill are tighter than ticks and complain if you're bigger than pinky finger. Some of the girls on the hill will go as low as 90 or 80, but I don't score real high on the repulsion scale so maybe I got something going for me.
I want to check out Cheonyangi, since my Korean skills are adequate for this sort of transaction. Miari sounds good as well. But I wonder about pricing. Are we just getting hosed in Itaewon, like we do with every other transaction there? Do we pay a lot more than what Korean dudes pay or is it about the same?
About the satyrisis enhancements: vitamin V and C go for ten clams, but the V gives me a headache like a mofo. I get real aggro and it kinda ruins the satisfaction of getting drained.
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Zackary Kr
04-30-09, 20:20
Which direction is hooker hill?
I will be staying at the hotel right in front of the itaewon subway station.
Alright, I'll help ya out. But, it's so easy to ask most people around that area since it's such a common place.
Anyways, after you leave Hamilton and your back is to the entrance, turn left (at the Subway entrance). Hard Rock Cafe will pass to your left. Go up to the very first crosswalk. You'll see Helios Bar in front of you and you'll see a gas station diagonally across from you. Turn right and cross the crosswalk.
Go up the street and make a left at the first intersection. As you make the left you'll see a steep hill and neon lights. A mix of some bars at the top, such as Polly's Kettle.
Good luck!
I'm currently staying in Renaissance Hotel Seoul. Please advise where can I get some good massage+special service near my hotel?
What about take aways? Is this trustworthy? Overpriced? Any better options?
http://www.bobosmassage.com/
Language barrier is the biggest problem for me and I have no idea where to go.
Detail instruction will be very much appreciated.
I followed the directions indicated and reached cool yesterday afternoon. The door opened and I sensed that the guys inside had been keeping an eye on me through CCTV.
I paid 75000 KWN, had my shower and went into the room assigned to me. I was lucky enough to get a really hot girl with firm breasts and she took off her top and allowed me to roam her underneath her skirt as well. I think that anything is possible if the girl likes you. Good looks can make a change.
Anyway, I had a good time. I even received multiple Hand jobs. WOW. I think I will be paying cool another visit soon.
I think that Cool is better than Sporex. Cheaper and more worthy. IMHO.
Forgot to report from last weekend:
Last weekend from Saturday to Sunday I was coming back from some company event with my car (very low alcohol level- better usually in Korea not to drive when partying) and while on the way home, I remembered the report of the streetworker scene around the namsan tower road to Hyatt hotel. Not intending to use services there, but a scene overview was at least what I wanted to get.
So went there and drove the namsan road (so to say from Hilton Millenium to Hyatt hotel). Yes there are some. They are more close to the Hyatt hotel entrance in a range around 3-500 m towards hilton. Mostly at the right side on the way towards the Hyatt.
It was arouind 0:30h- 1:00h when I cruised around. Counted about 6 (+/-2) and not sure who was maybe busy. Quality in the mid range, rating 5-7 at max, average maybe around the 6. Drove slowly and they come to your car. 1 Stepepd in and it seems several options available from in car sex to opt for a hotel. Recieved a BJ offer for 50k. So not unreasonably expensive and I would say ok. No further quoted. They may have car sex options near by.
I would expect the expected price level more close to the Itaewon Hooker Hill lower offers. but someone may need to explore further.
Given the point that it only makes sense to consider the streetwalker option when you have your car with you and the rather low number of selections, I would expect that the Hooker Hill in Itaewon has the better options if you want to spend money on purchased sex.
Someone may need to check later times as well. The Hyatt disco (JJ Mahoneys) is very close and around 1-3:00h at its prime time and all know that the one or other hunting girl is there to fish for options (way more beautiful, but way more expensive) aiming the guys with hotel rooms, but also some normal private none hooker girl's (freebees) can be fished there.
regards
Brain666
I have been a regular at JJ Mahoneys at the Hyatt recently. I go most every Friday.
I had heard that there were working girls there, and I usually look at the bar on the dance side of the club (as opposed to the live band side) to see if I can spot any providers, but never do.
Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I was leaving on Friday night after midnight and was standing in the taxi line in front of the hotel. The girl behind me in line returns my smile and asks, "Where are you going? " Home, I say. "I go with you? " she asks. Bingo.
We started talking, I was somewhat interested, but not ready to commit. She was bothered by the Korean guy in line behind her who seemed a little too curious about our private conversation. She suggested we walk away to somewhere more private, and we did. She had a smoke and we had a friendly negotiation as a few people walked by (at the top of the stairs that connect the outside entrance of JJs with the front of the hotel).
Her first offer was for 300K. I told her "Honestly, I don't know how much I have, but it's not that much. Probably only 80-100K. And I'm not going to pull out my wallet and count it now, " because that's too tacky. So we kept talking and finally she says "Let's go. "
I opted for her place south of the river, rather than my place further away. We got in a taxi. She lives in Apkujeong.
We sat on the sofa and she asked me to pay her first. I pulled out my wallet, and discovered that I had 70K. She accepted it. I was ready to offer to go to an ATM in the morning if she put up a fuss.
Nice apartment! I took a shower, waited for her to take hers, and we got in her nice big bed. The mood was relaxed, but certainly not GFE. She's got great tits, but a little bit of a belly. I'd say she is in her late 30s.
I went down on her, then she started giving me a blow job in return, and she climbed on top. I wasn't feeling it, so moved her into missionary and came after a few minutes. Sweet, if unspectacular.
I spent the night and there was kissing, stroking, and sucking in the morning. I could have gone for a second round but wasn't in the mood.
I don't think I'd seen her again, but enjoyed the experience. It was nice to relax in a big, clean, comfortable apartment high above the city.
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Anyone have any recommendations for girls in Itaewon with large natural chests? I'm sure I can go out there and just look, but if anyone has any favs or know of girls that might work on weekdays (weekends fine too), please give you pick.
Globe Spinner
05-03-09, 12:57
I hadn't been to Hyatt in a long long time, but was there late Friday night. Lots of very nice pros and semi-pros. I think a blind guy in a wheelchair could score there. Didn't get pricing, though.
I have been a regular at JJ Mahoneys at the Hyatt recently. I go most every Friday.
I had heard that there were working girls there, and I usually look at the bar on the dance side of the club (as opposed to the live band side) to see if I can spot any providers, but never do.
Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I was leaving on Friday night after midnight and was standing in the taxi line in front of the hotel. The girl behind me in line returns my smile and asks, "Where are you going? " Home, I say. "I go with you? " she asks. Bingo.
We started talking, I was somewhat interested, but not ready to commit. She was bothered by the Korean guy in line behind her who seemed a little too curious about our private conversation. She suggested we walk away to somewhere more private, and we did. She had a smoke and we had a friendly negotiation as a few people walked by (at the top of the stairs that connect the outside entrance of JJs with the front of the hotel).
Her first offer was for 300K. I told her "Honestly, I don't know how much I have, but it's not that much. Probably only 80-100K. And I'm not going to pull out my wallet and count it now, " because that's too tacky. So we kept talking and finally she says "Let's go. "
I opted for her place south of the river, rather than my place further away. We got in a taxi. She lives in Apkujeong.
We sat on the sofa and she asked me to pay her first. I pulled out my wallet, and discovered that I had 70K. She accepted it. I was ready to offer to go to an ATM in the morning if she put up a fuss.
Nice apartment! I took a shower, waited for her to take hers, and we got in her nice big bed. The mood was relaxed, but certainly not GFE. She's got great tits, but a little bit of a belly. I'd say she is in her late 30s.
I went down on her, then she started giving me a blow job in return, and she climbed on top. I wasn't feeling it, so moved her into missionary and came after a few minutes. Sweet, if unspectacular.
I spent the night and there was kissing, stroking, and sucking in the morning. I could have gone for a second round but wasn't in the mood.
I don't think I'd seen her again, but enjoyed the experience. It was nice to relax in a big, clean, comfortable apartment high above the city.
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Member #3443
05-03-09, 23:40
At least 1/2 the SW'S between the Hyatt and Hilton are TS. Some of them work the hill area and then head to that stroll around 10pm.
At least 1/2 the SW'S between the Hyatt and Hilton are TS. Some of them work the hill area and then head to that stroll around 10pm.
my short round trip was to short for generalization, but when I drove by my TS alarm got on a low level warning, which means: need to be whatched out in case of deeper negotiation. As I didn't want to do anything anyhow, I didn't further investigate. But I wouldn't be surprized if it turns out true.
Due to selections available, given the TV risk in addition, I think the hill is the better option.
regards
Brain666
I hadn't been to Hyatt in a long long time, but was there late Friday night. Lots of very nice pros and semi-pros. I think a blind guy in a wheelchair could score there. Didn't get pricing, though.
Not sure if you can genaralise like that, but if you judge like that and say 'lots of', then I wonder why you haven't been approached from at least a selection of the lots of?
But IMHO I do not count opting and agreeing for purchased sex as 'score'. Everybody can do in fact almost at any place where such supply is on offer, open or not, just depending on the padding of the wallet.
Score for me is to fish out the freebees available, or respectively clear/ convince none pro's for one night stand's or a bit more out of the crowd.
regards
Brain666
SoulCracker25
05-04-09, 10:24
I saw a few references to Miari.
This is pretty much my go to place now. Id say easily half of them will not take non-Koreans. Seems to me if you go during off peak times they are more then likely to let you in but I am at the point where I go to the same 2 (houses). I have established being a regular and I get amazing service.
There are two particular women that go out of there way to please me and I can take all the time I want. I usually leave tipping the ajumma so now they love when I come in. The two girls are solid 9s and they do it all.
We actually exchanged phone numbers although they know very little english and my korean is awful but we manage to keep in touch.
I was able to do a threesome, and have one of them visit me in a near by hotel.
All in all I recommend Miari, just go the right times and do not be afraid to "window shop".
Hey. I would like to open up something. What are some foriegn friendly Barbershops? I am not interested in Ahma's so much but a place that will do a really good massage and close with happiness.
I tried a few in Daegu and I love it but would love to know if you guys have any good recommendations in Seoul.
Thanks
Visited the SPOREX the other day and got no happy ending, although the massage was good. I did get asked the question if I was a Soldier for some reason which I am not and said no....maybe I should have said yes. Not sure if because of a crackdown.
Anyone have driving directions to COOL or landmark for GPS input closeby?
Kimchi Warrior
05-05-09, 14:11
I saw a few references to Miari.
This is pretty much my go to place now. Id say easily half of them will not take non-Koreans. Seems to me if you go during off peak times they are more then likely to let you in but I am at the point where I go to the same 2 (houses). I have established being a regular and I get amazing service.
There are two particular women that go out of there way to please me and I can take all the time I want. I usually leave tipping the ajumma so now they love when I come in. The two girls are solid 9s and they do it all.
We actually exchanged phone numbers although they know very little english and my korean is awful but we manage to keep in touch.
I was able to do a threesome, and have one of them visit me in a near by hotel.
All in all I recommend Miari, just go the right times and do not be afraid to "window shop".
ThanksPoint taken and good report, but how about sharing the location of these sure things for the weiguk-saram?
TIA
Waykook Saram
05-06-09, 03:31
I'm currently staying in Renaissance Hotel Seoul. Please advise where can I get some good massage+special service near my hotel?
What about take aways? Is this trustworthy? Overpriced? Any better options?
http://www.bobosmassage.com/
Language barrier is the biggest problem for me and I have no idea where to go.
Detail instruction will be very much appreciated.
I tried Bobo's service the other night and while it was expensive, 320,000 (they add a taxi fee). The email correspondence was in English and the owner even called to tell me the girl would be late.
The girl was a true college student and provide good service. She was also pretty. Normally the girls are little low class but this was truly a college girl working to pay her school fees or buy a designer bag. She was of similar quality in looks to an upscale room salon girl but better service. She only spoke a little English but I speak Korean so communication was not an issue. The owner does have good English and make arrangements was easy.
I went to the massage parlor near the Grand Intercontinental. When you go out of the hotel you turn right and walk past the Hyundai Mall. Then you turn right again. A bit further on your left there is a sign saying Massage. It is in the basement. Basically, it is not about massage, which is very basic, but just about a hand job. Actually, I was more into a massage, so it was not so good for me. The lady however was very beautiful. You can touch her, but no sex. Damae 80 KWon, which was too much.
Imready777
05-08-09, 13:09
Last few weeks has been closed.
Anyone know what happened or perhaps they have moved?
Took a trip to Belle and had this super tall, long haired girl as my attendant. She had 3 tats including a big ship of some kind on her lower back. Name completely escapes me but she said she works evenings until 12 or 1.
Overall a 10/10 session. Great massage, lots of lotion on the ass with nice fingernail action. CIM BJ in 69 position. DATY with great enthusiastic face grinding. If I was packing a dome I could have had FS. HOT package but keep what happens behind the curtain on the hush hush.
8000 times better than Cool. Last 4 experiences were horrible.
Hi Seoul residents and visitors, but this recommendation is probably only good for residents.
I want to share my recent adventures and come up with some new info, maybe not so much discussed here so far.
There is a reason why I did not participate and report in purchased sex activities.
Reason: about nearly 3 months ago I signed up for 2 partnership WebPages dedicated for contacts in Korea and then the hell broke out.
In the past year I was only randomly visiting the purchased entertainment venues as I was more concentrated and rather successful in the freebee pick up scene.
But since I signed up, just as an appetizer, I have more pussy on offer and availability then I can handle (there is a Job also to be done).
OK let me tell a bit.
So towards end of Feb. I signed up for two WebPages, Korean Cupid and UB Love.
I used some option and took a paid subscription, which has some advantages, as it is better to handle beside my job.
I filled in the profile honestly with my real age, size and weight and honest married status. I wrote who I am and what I want, as it is usually requested in such pages. So no fake intended to potential interests. I didn’t add a photo, as the WebPages are used by many people incl. the females of our company (I assume) and didn’t want my face appear there and be subject of talks and rumours. I am not young anymore (in the second half of humans life expectation) and my body shape is far from the one of a mussels man (Adonis), with some belly still to be trimmed (not ugly, but could be clearly better).
So I didn’t really expect any response from females initiative and probably a hard job, if not impossible asking task to contact myself. So far the low expectations started as a joke and a hint from a co worker. My buddy signed up the same time, but he is 10 years younger, single and should be more a target for the females in search for love, a boyfriend and marriage.
So far the theory.
What happened was surprising and I still can’t figure: he gets about only 1/3 rd to 1/ 4 th of female initiated contacts! Wow – this was not expected.
Back to my responses:
There is a continuous flow of females who contact me on their own initiative. It started with about 3-4 per week in the beginning and now it’s down to about 2- 3 per week.
After that you may enter in a chat and many times the chat where you exchange info Q&A etc. and ends in exchange of E-mail address and phone number. Next is that a selection of this contacts lead to actual dating and with a further selection of dated women you end in the pillows doing sex.
Now the unbelievable: in 10 weeks I collected about 17 phone numbers, I have about 5-6 girls/ ladies where I more or less frequently have sex with and probably another 5-6 in a kind of waiting loop (at least where I consider a high probability that it is possible) and just can’t manage it timely and powerly.
My buddy had 2 contacts and about 5 phone numbers.
Now I will make a try for some explanation and will give some more info.
1 ) How does it happen, that an older married guy gets so many contacts?
Most of the contacts I got (80%+ ?) have been based on female’s initiative.
When I contact myself, which I now don’t do anymore, then usually female will check the profile immediately, see me as an older married guy w/o photo and thinks ‘what an idiot’. That’s maybe true for > 70% of the females signed up who may look for a soul mate and long-term partnership and I can imagine that they get quite a number of such contacts each day she is online.
So females who contacted me have definitely selected me actively to be worth to contact and may look for something outside of the ‘common’ boyfriend/ husband search. This can be something interesting in my profile and some own desire and curiosity beyond initial contact search.
My profile must have something, which obviously triggers (but I don’t know what it is). This can be language reason, age, marriage status, nationality, or just to meet foreign guys or (not really there inwords) some inbetween the line phantasy of some secret vibe or action.
My lessons learned: I do not contact females with chat anymore. Just wait if they contact me or ‘show interest’, which I can see. Then I will answer nicely and thank about the interest and ask when she may be online or such.
I contact only sometimes on own initiative by sending a mail (which you can do when having a paid subscription) and just tell that I like her photos, something in the profile, or ask some question, but do not request directly more contact. (E.G. no stupid unrealistic requests for dating a 25 year old single). Sometimes (but exception) more contact evolves out of that (20%)
2 ) Who are the females contacting me and even had sex with me.
They are across all areas.
50% married/ fixed partnership, 50% single and on search for some more secret erotic adventure. (As it turns out then).
I have:
- University professor, husband with own company. 2 kids
- Wife (former model) of a Korean family conglomerate dynasty, no kids.
- School teacher, divorced in need for sometimes pussy satisfaction (some in wait loop)
- Regular office workers (single and married)
- Dentist Dr
- University student. (Only 1) (ha ha fucking professor and student, but different university)
They are really in a rather ok, good shape. I picked the more beauties whom I had more chemistry too as preferred sex partners. They are probably 7's per average in our ISG rating scale. Age range is 27 to 42).
They are really good educated (no exception), good discussion partners as well, good to perfect english skills and could be potential real partners as well. All the way through nice people you wouldn't believe. None Korean and foreign male and female co workers wouldn't either believe that I would bump 5-6 women in parallel and that I have sometimes 3 different girls in a week in my pillows.
3) Who are the Females contacting me who I don’t have sex with?
As mentioned before, there is a kind of wait loop/ potentials, which can become potential partners.
Some (subset from above) are just keen of language contact, loose dating and w/o sex in plan. By the way these are also nice women and I maintain the contacts and go out w/o ending in sex, but learn new things like language etc. And who knows who may be then suddenly a partner, even w/o any push.
4) Why do I manage to get E-mails, Phone numbers and datings out of chatting?
I am a gentle chatter and I am a curious person interested in many things. Listen and ask, explain and share own opinions. I also manage to gently chat through the critical term about wife, desire and such. Talk about sex is not my primary intention to be here I say, but depend on chemistry who knows … ).
Over time you get a feeling how things develop and I chat w/o any pressure to date it comes more naturally.
My buddy has some lack of chat skills. He is too direct sometimes and thinks he can be quicker. even my advice didn't help him yet.
5) Why are the females I once had in my pillows desperate to come back?
This is related to the way I do sex with my female partners.
I can proudly say: Female once in my hands, melts down and will want to come back and have se with me again, even if this sounds unbelievable for some of you.
What happens when once in my hands:
- I am usually gentle and approach rather slowly.
- I have a habit to not fix to primary sex organs (pussy, breasts) early, but use hands, ears head, other parts for touching first.
- Find sweet spots where they are sensitive, and mostly they do not know them anyhow – so I am first to discover.
- I am a great kisser and kiss them everywhere, all body so to say. (Tip: did you kiss women’s eyes, did you kiss behind the ear?). Depending on their sensitive spots, they can get crazy.
- I completely step back and put myself second priority when making sex.
- I put extensive attention to female.
- ‘Eat them up’ all over before I come into play.
- Sex duration takes long time with me, playing around, playing with all body parts. This can be extensive.
I can’t produce many shots anymore like a young guy. So I save the shots, but I give long interrupted sessions and female may come 3-5 times before I do.
Women who ‘went through’ this/my way of lovemaking goes back home mega happy.
I often get the self-expressed feedback (who am I to ask such)) that she didn’t know that love can be such way. I position myself on the No 1 spot (or close) of her best sexual experience so far.
What is Korean women used by average and a little generalized (our Korean ISG members here may be different): Quickly remove clothes, touch with hands and kiss for about 5 min, do some 2 min BJ (not so much female pussy is licked), then sex in about 5-10 min. Total duration about 15 min max.
This is what I got described several times out of females mouth.
Out of this way, it is not difficult to climb their sex pole position with just one experience provided. And of course they want to come back and repeat.
They want to spend time here and lay around naked, walk around naked, play around naked, bath naked when here, things that they can not and have never done in life before so far. They play with my dick like a toy and can not imagine to ever do this woth their korean partner.
So they want to come back.
I have 2 who consider now, if they introduce me to their best friend. Seems that my reputation goes around in Seoul.
6) Expense evaluation
I was coming from the freebee scene a long time already and had (direct) purchased sex reduced considerably the last year.
Now since I have such a success, I have driven the expenses to 0.
So currently: No Miari (I was a standard visitor there), No Anma, No Hooker Hill, no others (cool and co I necer visited) and therefore no expenses.
This are all freebees, but we all know freebees are not really free.
Now: the females I meet with, mostly come to have a good time incl. sex. I wouldn’t mind and also offer regularly dinner, go out, clubbing and such (I am not a Cheap Charly). But they basically don’t want it. Even towards the end of our sessions, when I offer, let have a quick dinner, they refuse and say: lets better have another h fun more.
So the spending I have is usually about a bottle of wine / session and some share of beverages, Rum, Whiskey, bread cheese ham, food etc. in my apartment. Sometimes some dinner (not luxury, just snack type). None of them expect and is keen on any luxury dining and wining environment. Secret satisfaction has priority.
That’s all.
It somehow boils down to about 20.-30.000 won/ bottle wine + whatever used to refill stocks I buy at the supermarket. And this for probably 2-5 h duration depending on time.
7) Summary and some recommendations.
a) This additional option to get sexual contacts can only be reasonably done by residents here and residents who are single and partner is not constantly around. Sorry, maybe not good for short term visitors.
b) Consider that the use of the webpage to get additional sexual contacts is not successful by itself. It depends on how you use it and fill it, your attitude in writing, in chatting, in dating, in sex. Not different from any other female approach strategy, where also your skills are fundamental for success.
c) Don’t cheat through this system and hide too much and don’t play unfair. Fill in your profile and write something which may create interest.. Don’t cheat with age, weight, martial status.
Regards
Brain666
Took a trip to Belle and had this super tall, long haired girl as my attendant. She had 3 tats including a big ship of some kind on her lower back. Name completely escapes me but she said she works evenings until 12 or 1.
Overall a 10/10 session. Great massage, lots of lotion on the ass with nice fingernail action. CIM BJ in 69 position. DATY with great enthusiastic face grinding. If I was packing a dome I could have had FS. HOT package but keep what happens behind the curtain on the hush hush.
8000 times better than Cool. Last 4 experiences were horrible.How did you get there? I have been looking for it for ages. Where in relation to the Prudential building is Belle. I have only found Cool and been too many times. I hate it but can't find Belle.
Sfinil,
Belle is on the opposite side of the street to cool. If you came from bang bang sageori walk towards cool and carry on past it and you'll reach an intersection. Belle is at that intersection on the opposite side from cool. The street its on looks like a dead end and has a hill behind it.
hope that helps
Hey all, I'm back in the ROK. Here is what I have so far:
I visited a 'night' (Korean for 'booking club') the other day (it was a weeknight).
I didn't know how to get into one, so I went on Naver.com and did a search for night clubs in Seoul and came across a few links, and I noticed a lot of the waiters advertising online.
I decided to use one by the name of 'Bodyguard', and I called him, and he told me the price. 280,000 KRW for a room (I don't like table, booth areas as they are too loud to chat with the girls). I told him that was fine.
I got to the club just before midnight. I went with a friend, and it was his first time at a booking club. I asked for 'Bodyguard', and he greeted me. He took us to the room, and then told me about the prices, but also explained the prices can be higher if we opt for better alcohol.
I decided to upgrade to JW Black instead of some other crap they had, so that added another 50,000 KRW, bringing the total to 330,000 KRW. I then tipped Bodyguard 20,000 KRW and told him to bring lots of hotties, and that I'd continue to tip him if he did well.
Well, for about the first two hours, we got booked with about 8 girls or so, maybe 4 each (me and my friend). I wouldn't say any of them were stunning, but some were fairly cute.
About half of them left in a hurry, and the other half overstayed.
Later on, as I looked out on the dancefloor, I saw it was nearly empty. I guess weeknights are pretty dead! Oh well... some other time then.
In total, we got booked with about 14 girls (7 each), and left the club around 4:30 AM. The total I tipped Bodyguard was 40,000 KRW, bringing the total cost to 370,000 KRW. Roundtrip cabfare was just under 40,000 KRW, bringing the total to just under 410,000 KRW.
Did we get lucky? No... but we could have. The last two girls who were 'booked' to us were clearly open to it. One was fairly sober and clearly horny and wanted to pounce my friend, even asking him where his hotel was (he was only in town for a few days). The other one, actually happened to be her friend, and she was clearly trashed and willing to bang anyone.
So why didn't we do it? Why not take these two young girls (both about 20~22 years old) to a motel and bang the crap out of them?
Let's just say, we have standards. If the girls were at least a 6, sure, we would have done it. But the 'sober' one had thunder thighs and an acne problem. The 'trashed' one was more attractive than her friend, but it's like comparing a 2 to a 3 (on a scale of 1-10).
Anyway, as my friend and I were leaving, we saw the two girls out there... and the fat one started talking to my friend again, clearly trying to get him to bang her. We just got in a cab and took off. As we took off, my friend looked back, and saw two other guys pick those girls up and the girls left with them. LOL, I guess they really were willing to bang anyone.
So I guess you can get laid at a booking club, so long as you drop your standards. My friend and I are more used to girls who look somewhat decent (as I'm sure all of you are), and we just couldn't do it.
So... was the night a waste of several hundred thousand won? Perhaps, but it was an experience, and life is about experiences. It wasn't the best, but now I know what it's like, and I may consider doing it again in the future, but it's not something I'm dying to do.
Anything good come out of it? Well... yes:
One of the girls that got booked to us, this super cute young thing with librarian glasses, a mini-skirt, and huge breasts on a slim frame. My god, she was hot. Not a beautiful face, but a very young, girl-next-door look. She had the face of a student, but the body of a stripper (well, a short one, as she was, maybe 5'2" at best).
Anyway, this girl, let's call her Hyori, she hung out in the room for over an hour, and we sang lots of songs together. She then left, but before she left the club, she came back to the room to say goodbye, at which point I got her number. She asked why I wanted it, so I told her "so we could have lunch together". She gave it, and I saved it.
I texted her the next day, no response, so I texted her again later that night mentioning something funny from the previous night, and she responded, which started a text conversation that lasted about an hour. Supposedly we are to meet this coming week, sometime during the weekdays, but we'll see if it pans out.
It's been a long time since I've wanted to bang a girl this badly, and this girl is my ultimate target for now. If I manage to do so, I will try to get her to take some pictures so I can have all of you see the body on this girl, who, by the way, was born in 1990. She'll be the youngest ever, and one of the hottest.
Wish me luck, guys.
PS: I'll have a report on an anma that I visited in Yeoksam-dong recently. In that report, I will tell you all about the best BBBJ from a Korean girl I've ever receieved (and second best BBBJ overall). She truly was amazing. Stay tuned.
Well, I was able to have a good time at Yongsan. I live in Gangnam and Yongsan is the closest RLD to my place, so I sometimes end up going there. Then I am always disappointed because I am able to find a good looking enough girl, but she always tells me to hurry and I am done within 15 minutes, so I never get a full experience.
Well, this time I went in there knowing it would be rushed, so I changed my expectations. Rather than trying for a "complete experience" with a little bit of foreplay, some CBJ and then a couple of quick positions, I decided, I'd rather do 15 straight minutes of my favorite: Doggie.
Also, I was getting tired of these hot little korean spinners that tell me I'm too big. I'm not that big, but I am longer than usual and I do like to go deep and hit the back wall as much as possible, so I understand if they get a stomach ache by the end, but seriously, I don't want to have to worry about that. So I got a woman who was a little thicker, not fat, but more junk in the trunk.
We went in, she cleaned me off, did about a minute of a BJ, then I turned her over on all fours and pounded her for about 10-15 minutes. I spent a lot of time looking in the mirror, I used different body parts of hers to get more leverage (held her hips, shoulders, pulled her hair.
By the end, I had my fill. Worked out great. Now that I have a strategy, I can go back and have fun anytime.
Hey all, I'm back in the ROK. Here is what I have so far:
I visited a 'night' (Korean for 'booking club') the other day (it was a weeknight).
Please forgive my ignorance as I have never been to Korea and plan on visiting next winter. Byung are you Korean or a foreigner? Just curious if being a foreigner makes the girls not want to come to your room.
Please forgive my ignorance as I have never been to Korea and plan on visiting next winter. Byung are you Korean or a foreigner? Just curious if being a foreigner makes the girls not want to come to your room.from what I see, he sounds like Korean. Even his I'd suggest that he is Korean. It maybe very possible that being a foreigner make it difficult. I wouldn't know because I am Korean-American.
Leviathan73
05-13-09, 15:55
anyone have any recommendations for girls in itaewon with large natural chests? i'm sure i can go out there and just look, but if anyone has any favs or know of girls that might work on weekdays (weekends fine too), please give you pick.cindy at lily. her body's not as tight as the 70 man won girl i see in yongsan rld, but she is really nice. she's soft, deep, and didn't kvetch about the size of my unit (which almost all the girls do. i mention this because guys with a smaller unit might get better service from more girls). she's only there fridays and on the weekend. she looks like a really hot ukranian girl or khazhakstani girl. she had that eye surgery. there aren't many girls out there who have eyes you spend any time looking at, hers are spectacular.
what the name of the place across the alley from lily? the girls there are small and their crevices aren't big enough to park a baby carrot in. whine, whimper, blah, blah, blah. that is not good service. i did see one girl there dressed up in a catholic school uniform who looked unusually young and fresh for the hill. the last two times i went there the girls did nothing for me. really not my types. also, what's with the ugly old chicks in the door? are you guys hitting that troll action?
the yongsan rld has had more cops there recently according to some of the girls. i actually saw them pull up as i was strolling through, but they didn't speak to me and the girls just told me to jog on. i just walked around to the side-street and found the tall girl with big butt and the great rack. funny thing is, the a-row gongju-byung (conceited/expensive bali-bali girls) have been flagging me down, not %100 but maybe %15-%20. business has been shit for them lately, so i thought they'd be less obsessed with the clock and more keen to try to set up some regular accounts/clientele. a guide to prices and negotiating tactics would be a huge help. fifteen minutes isn't enough for me. but i ain't paying $300 bucks for a half-hour. i'm not that bad at math.
there is one girl i keep going back to at yrld. man she's got a rack and an ass that are still firm, yet big enough to keep a guy interested in a full-grown women coming back for more. she's pretty cool too. many of the side-street providers are either too good for foreign length, or they look like they been at it since the japanese invaded the first time. where's a guy have to go to nail a shapely girl under 40 who's got globes on her chest instead of oblongs? the hefty girls are always deeper. i don't go for the spinners.
imho, a working girl's primary function is to pretend they like you, even just a tiny bit. so i really liked this chick because she was really charming. in turn, we have to be nice to them or they treat all of us like they have to run to the biffy. even though my korean is not so good, i can usually scrounge up the vocab to make small talk and have some pleasant banter. some of the girls on the hill have mentioned many guys don't treat them nicely. it really makes all the difference in the world.
if you hate saggy tits, beware of fallout, my brethren. if they look like they've been hoisted. there's a whole lotta push-uh action going on all over, i frequently don't know how busty they really are til they do their speed peel (so uninspiring! ).
if i have the luxury of time. where should i go for longer experience that isn't so hurried? how much should i think about spending? haven't been to miari or cheongyangyi yet, but i might check out the latter very soon.
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