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Hello everybody,
Within 3 days I need to go for one week Seoul for business.
I already read a little this forum but I urgently need some info from you guys.
I will stay in the Hilton, is there any massage with service in the hotel or in the neigbourhood?
I especially like massages!
Thanks for help and after my visit I will put my contribution to this wondefull forum!
Take care,
Hello everybody,
Within 3 days I need to go for one week Seoul for business.
I already read a little this forum but I urgently need some info from you guys.
I will stay in the Hilton, is there any massage with service in the hotel or in the neigbourhood?
I especially like massages!
Thanks for help and after my visit I will put my contribution to this wondefull forum!
Take care,
Which Hilton? Grand Hilton or Millenium Hilton.
Millenium Hilton should be better, as it is just about 5-10 min by Taxi to Itaewon, your sefaty Belt for action.
regards
Brain666
I'm also annoyed about the divulging of info. It is hard enough living in Japan (and Korea as well FTM) and trying to get some decent p4p. I just hope they haven't ruined it for the rest of us. Ill be over in Seoul again in the next two weeks or so.
Which Hilton? Grand Hilton or Millenium Hilton.
Millenium Hilton should be better, as it is just about 5-10 min by Taxi to Itaewon, your sefaty Belt for action.
regards
Brain666
It will be the Millenium Hilton.
Well I have been in Seoul for 2 days and decided to do a little hunting for a Anma that took foreigners. I am staying in the Renaissance so I just took a walk around a 4 block area. Big blocks. Well found one side street that 4 or 5 Anma's and it seems as though if Massage is spelled out in English then they are favorable to Foreigners.
Well on to the scarey part. Stop at one place and went in they starting price was 240000w, whoaaa way to much after reading the forum. So I got the price down to 1600000, a little bit better, must of been a slow night. Anyway up I went to the 3rd floor, undress, have some water, and a cigerrete and we jumped into the shower. She definitely had a nice body about a 7. 5 and face was cute as hell. 9. Probably around 34C-26-34. Back to the action, after the shower layed face down on the bed and the tongue bath started, very nice with a little rimming. Then came the flip and the tongue bath started at my nipples down my legs and back up with a little bit of a HJ thrown in. By this time the soldier was standing at attention and when her lips slip over the soldier I thought I was in heaven about 5 minutes of pure joy, felt like I had a Hoover on my dick. Then she stopped and I was thinking ahhhhhhh. Don't, but it was only for a drink of water. COLD Water which she held in her mouth while she resumed her BJ. God that is great. After another 5 minutes or so she suited the soldier up and climbed on CG, absolutely beautiful after a while we switched to Mish and then DS, then back to Mish when I couldn't take it any longer. After that she cleaned me up and was finishing off the massage and still a little HJ. When a knock on the door. Thought it was the mamasan, but know, who walks in but the Korean police. Oh SHIT. Here she was naked, I was naked and at least she was smart enought to pick up and hide any evidence. God my heart was pounding, what happen to advance notice. They asked where I was from, how much I paid and how long I had been there. Asked if I had oral sex or sex and of course the answer was no. Fellas take it from me make it an in-call, at least you don't have to worry about the police barging in. Whoaa SCAREY TIME!
Moonstruck48
10-11-10, 16:40
I am presently in Seoul. And this is my review so far.
Staying at the soengpa ku district. Particularly Jamsil. I decided to roam the area. After a few drinks in the local bar district. I was thought to recognosize the "an ma" meaning "massage" in korean sign.
All were foreigner friendly as I walk to the counter. I gestured that I can't speak Korean. Nevertheless. There is a uniformity to the price. KRM180K. Which to me is way beyond an acceptable cost for a short time encounter.
Lasting thoughts.
Korea is not anti foreign. But is pricey.
Saw this 1. 6M beau at one of the "an ma". Really great pedigree. She was the one who help translate the price to me. Hmmmmm. Worth the price for a long time but I decided not to succumb to my carnal desires. As the 180K won for a short time is way beyong my usual acceptable standards.
I will check out the hill tomorrow and report back.
After lurking on this board for months, I finally took my first trip into the Korean p4p scene. I usually just wait for my regular trip to Thailand, but I couldn't wait that long so I decided to check the scene out.
First I went to Yongsan RLD, and I got a real looker in one of the back rows. She is 27 and has a ultra thin spinner body and looks like one of those girls you see in the kpop videos. I can't believe someone like this works in the back rows. I've already seen her twice. I got the long time with her. She throws in a little GFE with her service. I haven't tried kissing her yet though. Maybe I will next time.
I also decided to give the hill a try. I wanted to check out Happy Days after reading reviews here but it was closed all night. I would walk by periodically, and it was always closed. As I was walking, an older lady in her 30s from the bar next door grabbed me by the arm so tight I couldn't break free and dragged in her bar. Sorry can't remember the name. Fortunately for her, I have the Miss Robinson thing, and like older ladies more than young ones.
I'm ashamed to admit that after buying the lady drinks and the long time service, I paid more than I wanted to if I was thinking with my big head. I paid over 250K, and wish I would have stayed in Yongsan instead. But the service was totally great. I will say this happened on a Saturday night in Itaewon around 2AM. I sure that is when prices are the highest.
The best part though was that she was 100% GFE and PSE%, and everything was on the menu. Don't know about Greek though, didn't try it. But I did everything else with her. She gave me an awesome massage after I came. I didn't have enough energy for a second pop, but she said I could come as many times as possible. Before I left, she told me there are younger girls that work there she would introduce me to if I ever come back. She wasn't just trying to push herself only on me. She kept trying to DFK me as I left, but at that point, my head was clear and bummed out about how much money I spent.
So this is the question I have for you guys. I want to go back to the Hill again because of the amazing service I got there. If I go back on a weeknight, will the prices be cheaper? Or are they high every night of the week?
Oh, and Kimchi Warrior, don't go into to Stealth Mode. Your information is too valuable to guys like me. That guy that told the providers about this forum is a real fuckhead.
Has anyone had any luck trying to score with the russian maids that occasionally work in hotels? Maybe they will be willing, since it's kind of private, easy and potentially lucrative.
Visited Itaewon for the first time. Found Hooker Hill without a map or even an idea. Simply walked up the first hill I saw.
Many women out, few customers. Some assholes on top of the hill yelling at guys not to enter any of these places. WTF?
Got a BBBJNQ for 50,000 from the best looking woman I saw there (and she was actually good looking by any standards). Drank a beer in a pub then hit another place where I was offered BBBJ and FS for 150,000 WON. Counter offered 80,000. Provider looked pretty nice, body a little loose, terrible implants. Incredibly sweet though. Got 100 minutes of BBBJ and got BBFS with a little begging. Came on her belly. Won't mention names since providers apparently read the forums.
Feel free to scold me for paying too much and going raw.
Kimchi Warrior
10-13-10, 01:30
Not really enough evidence to conclusively determine that "not foreigner-friendly" has been taken to new lows in the ROK, but a correspondent recently informed me of his suspicion that's exactly what happened when he visited an anma in the Seoullung corridor recently. After getting admitted to an unnamed joint in one of the alleys north and east of Seoullung Station, and even managing to avoid the foreigner premium, he got the dick-shriveling experience of his life when there was a knock on the door. Thinking it was just the mamasan signaling the end of time he opened up and found himself being ogled by LEO. Fortunately, all the incriminating evidence had already been cleaned up by his provider, so he denied having had sex or oral (mmm, has Korean LEO learned something from Bill Clinton?) and claimed he'd just gotten a bath and massage. They let him go. Given that this was pretty much a local and Japanese-frequented establishment and that such places are notoriously off-limits to LEO unless they harboring someone special (like a govt official for who some others have got out the long knives), it's hard to avoid speculating that he was ratted out. Anyway, be prudent out there, even in anma land if you're lucky enough to get in.
Kimchi Warrior
10-13-10, 01:35
Visited Itaewon for the first time. Won't mention names since providers apparently read the forums.
So, now the forum has become little more than a soapbox from which to wave your dick and pound your chest in post-coital triumphalism. No genuinely useful info, given not only the lack of names but even exact locations. No blame to RR, though. Instead, congrats to the no game losers who told the girls about the forum; they are the real losers, anyway, since some of us already have the knowledge.
I fully planned to give names and locations until I read about the recent problems here. I thought the prices and activities may at least help.
Turtle Power
10-13-10, 13:22
Hey,
I'm looking for girls at DaeDdaelbangs or Fetish Clubs who speak English, even moderately. At such places like Cool, Belle, etc
I thought I had one at Belle but I guess she didn't give me her real name or I remembered it wrong.
PM me and I'll try to pay you back. I'm a novice at Korean.
Thanks
Has anyone used estkorea.com yet?
Outcall is ridiculously expensive. Also the english text is pretty messed up
Incall. Still expensive. But if the quality is okay. Maybe worth a shot.
Any other providers advertising online?
All I can say is bummers. I can remember far back enough when this board was as silent as a tit mouse in church. Now it is just getting good and someone has to go and fuck it up. Way to go asshole.
Obviously a lurker and not a poster. Well, I guess that is the end of that. FFS. I mean really, does it take that much thought?
Hope you got some points out of spilling the beans Mr. Jerkoff, but I doubt it since your game probably sucks anyway.
Like KW said, some of us already have the info already.
On a lighter note, with the a friend of mine with minimal Hangul skills recommends 'Queen Kiss Bong" in the college area of Sinchon if you're into that sort of thing. Said he's gotten 1 hour kissing/grouping service with HJ finish for 30,000 with a sweet young college girl. More is apparently on the table if you can negotiate it and the chemistry is right.
Phone # is 02-324-7310
On a lighter note, with the a friend of mine with minimal Hangul skills recommends 'Queen Kiss Bong" in the college area of Sinchon if you're into that sort of thing. Said he's gotten 1 hour kissing/grouping service with HJ finish for 30,000 with a sweet young college girl. More is apparently on the table if you can negotiate it and the chemistry is right.
Phone # is 02-324-7310That price doesnt seem right for 1 hr. Virtually all kissing rooms charge 40k for 35 min and 70k for 1 hr.
Maybe the 30K was only for the HJ and so that would be 100K total for 1 hr of kissing and the HJ, which sounds about right for the market in Korea.
HJs given by the girl is basically strictly off limits. They're not even supposed to touch yr member at all. You are however allowed to whack off in front of the girl as long as u keep yr distance and don't try to finger her.
Should have been 130,000 won. Missed the 1 key.
I cannot be 100% sure since I didn't partake, but he's a fairly trust worthy guy and I believe what he says. He said he got the HJ from her, not self applied.
Heard from another Gyeonsangnam-do native Korean guy that he received HJ in a kiss bang a year back in Seoul too.
Kimchi Warrior
10-15-10, 02:34
Should have been 130,000 won. Missed the 1 key.
I cannot be 100% sure since I didn't partake, but he's a fairly trust worthy guy and I believe what he says. He said he got the HJ from her, not self applied.
Heard from another Gyeonsangnam-do native Korean guy that he received HJ in a kiss bang a year back in Seoul too.
W130K for a hug and (maybe) a tug? Why bother?
An hour of basically GFE, kissing, roaming with HJ finish. I could see how it would be worth it if you're into that. Especially when you consider that people blow much more than that in strip clubs in a few minutes in the states, or spend around the same for decent massage with HJ finish in places like NYC.
If you're not interested that's fine. Just passing on the info.
W130K for a hug and (maybe) a tug? Why bother?Perhaps that appeals to some people, not everyone enjoys the crap on the hill.
Kimchi Warrior
10-15-10, 11:10
Perhaps that appeals to some people, not everyone enjoys the crap on the hill.
By all means to each his own; but there's crap everywhere; the gift is finding the pearls in the muddy water.
W130K for a hug and (maybe) a tug? Why bother?Indeed, why bother for that price when you can get essentially the same thing at almost half the price at hand job/sports massage places.
I doubt this list is up to date but anyway if you can figure out the Korean here's a start to find hand job places (not the older twin barber pole places) in your neighborhood:
http://blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=08Fmp&articleno=11961785#ajax_history_home
Jack Rabbit
10-17-10, 02:43
Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP’s and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).
Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play “challenge” games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable (“losing face”), and won’t return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e.g. watch out for foreigners, he’s a player, etc. etc.). She doesn’t respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).
Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e.g. take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing “cute” games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn’t wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target “lose face”. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can’t figure out to counteract this one.
Member #4471
10-17-10, 05:22
So, now the forum has become little more than a soapbox from which to wave your dick and pound your chest in post-coital triumphalism. No genuinely useful info, given not only the lack of names but even exact locations. No blame to RR, though. Instead, congrats to the no game losers who told the girls about the forum; they are the real losers, anyway, since some of us already have the knowledge.It'S not like you (KW) provide anything valuable yourself. All your reports are about Itaewon, no real surprise there, just walk up hooker hill and pay out your ass. So, if you feel that you need to go into "stealth mode", so be it. For the last 30 years or more I'm sure we all know that anyone and I mean anyone can get p4p service in Itaewon. Get over yourself you pompous prick, I and other forum readers have talked and feel the same, I'm just the guy that had to say it.
Kimchi Warrior
10-17-10, 05:45
It'S not like you (KW) provide anything valuable yourself. All your reports are about Itaewon, no real surprise there, just walk up hooker hill and pay out your ass. So, if you feel that you need to go into "stealth mode", so be it. For the last 30 years or more I'm sure we all know that anyone and I mean anyone can get p4p service in Itaewon. Get over yourself you pompous prick, I and other forum readers have talked and feel the same, I'm just the guy that had to say it.
Said the single post wonder. LOL
And, for the record, I have contributed re other venues, notably the Seollung corridor anmas, which (as I've noted) I also pretty much avoid because of the inconvenience and the low likely of getting admitted as a foreigner. I make no apology for trying to give informative info about various Hill providers. Of course, even an apparent donkey like you can get laid there by taping a couple of hundred to its forehead, but many of us would prefer to know who the providers are that have higher standards, better looks and superior service. It's clear from your (non) contributions that you don't have a clue.
Oh, and by all means feel free to simply ignore my posts if they aren't up to your non-existent standards; they really aren't intended for leeches like you anyway.
Turtle Power
10-17-10, 06:00
Holy Shit.
I can't believe that that stuff happens.
Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP's and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).
Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play "challenge" games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable ("losing face"), and won't return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e. G. Watch out for foreigners, he's a player, etc. Etc.). She doesn't respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).
Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e. G. Take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing "cute" games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn't wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target "lose face". In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can't figure out to counteract this one.
Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP's and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).
Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play "challenge" games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable ("losing face"), and won't return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e. G. Watch out for foreigners, he's a player, etc. Etc.). She doesn't respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).
Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e. G. Take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing "cute" games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn't wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target "lose face". In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can't figure out to counteract this one.I fight back by giving them equally as intimidating looks, ask them what they hell they are looking at and usually they are so embarrassed they leave me alone and I am free to continue with my conversations, although, in bars isa completely different story.
Went to yongsan rld the other day. Had a good time with one of the girls in the A row. After we finished she gave me her number. Just want to ask, do girls at rld's usually give their phone numbers out?
BTW she told me starting next week yongsan rld will be no more.
Went to yongsan rld the other day. Had a good time with one of the girls in the A row. After we finished she gave me her number. Just want to ask, do girls at rld's usually give their phone numbers out?
BTW she told me starting next week yongsan rld will be no more.Yes, they do. They would probably rather do it with a repeat customer than a complete stranger. The number makes it easier for that to happen. I've text before going to the RLD to make sure that a girl was working that day. It's useful in that way but don't expect this is going to something more. Hard to get a reply on time and often they don't pick up the phone if they're not working on that day.
Personally i think the number they give you is just their "working" number maybe lent to them by the mamasan.
It'S not like you (KW) provide anything valuable yourself. All your reports are about Itaewon, no real surprise there, just walk up hooker hill and pay out your ass. So, if you feel that you need to go into "stealth mode", so be it. For the last 30 years or more I'm sure we all know that anyone and I mean anyone can get p4p service in Itaewon. Get over yourself you pompous prick, I and other forum readers have talked and feel the same, I'm just the guy that had to say it.
Everyone, listen to the non-contributing zero here.
Kimchi Warrior
10-19-10, 06:30
Everyone, listen to the non-contributing zero here.
Maybe we shouldn't forget the silent chorus of his imagwinawy fwiends, either.
;)
Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP’s and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).
Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play “challenge” games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable (“losing face”), and won’t return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e.g. watch out for foreigners, he’s a player, etc. etc.). She doesn’t respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).
Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e.g. take picture out window beside her of ocean view), staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head), with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing “cute” games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn’t wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target “lose face”. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can’t figure out to counteract this one.
Bunch of insecure punk asses. Oh the constant fear of the big bad westerner!.
Korea Kimchi
10-20-10, 07:36
1) Is the rld at miari texas still open?
2) I noticed recently a lot of k. Cop cars circling rld's in seoul during the day and night. What are they doing/looking for?
Is it safe to enter/exit the glass houses while cops are in the area?
3) I'm just confused, b/c I understand w/the new law its officially illegal now, but the cop station is so close to rld's and they know what's going on obviously.
I mean, what is their goal now? Random, occasional enforcement?
1) Is the rld at miari texas still open?
2) I noticed recently a lot of k. Cop cars circling rld's in seoul during the day and night. What are they doing/looking for?
Is it safe to enter/exit the glass houses while cops are in the area?
3) I'm just confused, b/c I understand w/the new law its officially illegal now, but the cop station is so close to rld's and they know what's going on obviously.
I mean, what is their goal now? Random, occasional enforcement?The cops are not looking for anything special, they have beefed up patrols all over the city in preperation for G20 next month.
It's safe to enter sure, but I would take precaution if cops were around anyway, just for peace of mind anyway.
I understand w/the new law its officially illegal now
New law, old law, it was ALWAYS illegal. They were just paid off to look the other way and not enforce the law (or they tipped off the madames when a raid was planned).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target “lose face”. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location), but can’t figure out to counteract this one.
Hmm, Oh the good old cock block. Alive and well it seems. Well, there is always two ways to play that game:
Of course, acknowledging them in the first place means you are engaging them in the game, i.e. you are playing their game. They are trying to manipulate the female by guilt (the disapproving look). The female can choose to either respond to this manipulation or not, but if she does respond the manipulator (Korean cock blocker) no longer has to do anything, the guilt will do all the work.
One response in this situation is to advise the female that she is being manipulated and hope that she is wise enough or mentally strong enough to resist the guilt. If she is not, then there is nothing you can do, all the elements are internal to her. This of course implies that there is something "wrong" with foreigners, and by her talking with you she is doing something socially "wrong".
You the engaged are also acknowledging the guilt by allowing it to modify your behavior. Are you doing something "wrong" by talking with this girl? No! You are not. If you engage in a conversation with a willing participant on a mass transit system, who is to say that that is wrong.
Option two is to confront the manipulator. There are several ways to do this without his "losing face".
Say to the girl in Korean something funny, but loud enough for him to hear. Such as (in Korean):
Polite-"He looks lost, he must need directions!"
More Funny/Serious-"Man, this guy is staring at us. I wonder if he wants to ask you out?" This opens it up for you to ask HER out.
Funny-"Damn this guy is really screwing up my game!"
Others feel free to add your own.
Personally, I have never had a problem with the Koreans. Its always my own buddies that seem to take special pleasure in fucking up my game, such as slipping the girl their cards, butting in asking the girl to dance, confronting her when she comes out of the bathroom, etc, etc.
Pretty much why I stick to the P4P route, I pay them to leave! And even then I have to tell them to stop fucking calling me LOL!
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Personally, I have never had a problem with the Koreans. Its always my own buddies that seem to take special pleasure in fucking up my game, such as slipping the girl their cards, butting in asking the girl to dance, confronting her when she comes out of the bathroom, etc, etc.
Pretty much why I stick to the P4P route, I pay them to leave! And even then I have to tell them to stop fucking calling me LOL!
So its pretty much that your western buddies are trying cockblocking you in favor to possibly cockadvance themselves :D lol.
Greetings
Brain666
Xiaoyingmao
10-21-10, 11:58
I need some info. Last night I went to mugen karaoke with girls accompany. It seems like a classy place called mugen. I took one Korean out for one shot. Bit I did not wear condom during sex so I was worried about STD or aids/HIV. So my question is is it normal for them not to wear condom? Although I read somewhere that aids prevalence is less than 0.1% but I am scared now. So I was wondering if any one knows anything about this matter. I took the girl out at roughly 280usd. So I presume it's a high class escort?
Thanks if anyone cab help me out here thanks agaib.
I need some info. Last night I went to mugen karaoke with girls accompany. It seems like a classy place called mugen. I took one Korean out for one shot. Bit I did not wear condom during sex so I was worried about STD or aids/HIV. So my question is is it normal for them not to wear condom? Although I read somewhere that aids prevalence is less than 0.1% but I am scared now. So I was wondering if any one knows anything about this matter. I took the girl out at roughly 280usd. So I presume it's a high class escort?
Thanks if anyone cab help me out here thanks agaib.
Why would you be scared now after having read that "AIDS prevalence" is less than 0.1%? No one here can help you, get tested after 6 months and again six months later.
I need some info. Last night I went to mugen karaoke with girls accompany. It seems like a classy place called mugen. I took one Korean out for one shot. Bit I did not wear condom during sex so I was worried about STD or aids/HIV. So my question is is it normal for them not to wear condom? Although I read somewhere that aids prevalence is less than 0.1% but I am scared now. So I was wondering if any one knows anything about this matter. I took the girl out at roughly 280usd. So I presume it's a high class escort?
Thanks if anyone cab help me out here thanks agaib.Seems ODD that you would ask if it is normal for "them" to wear condoms. It's your cock and your life. Me personally, I never take the chance and ALWAYS suit up, my life is much more important than a few moments in esctasy. I really just shake my head at all the pics on this site with guys and BBC in these girls, WTF, do they like to play roulette with tehir lives. Not attacking, just my opinion on the matter.
What you pay for the lady by no means has anything to do with if she has STD's or not, gezzz, did you really ask that question?
Why would you be scared now after having read that "AIDS prevalence" is less than 0.1%? No one here can help you, get tested after 6 months and again six months later.Actually, he doesn't have to wait that long. Modern tests are very effective already 8 weeks after suspected infection. But anyway, the risks are quite low in Korea for HIV. Chlamydia or herpes on the other hand are more likely risks when screwing providers unprotected. HIV doesn't only mean lifelong infection it also means a one way ticket out of Korea for life, if you are a foreigner.
But to answer your other question, I do feel like the option to go without condom is much more available here than in Europe where I come from.
You are brave. These chicks fuck hundreds if not thousands of guys a year. My own policy is not condom no play. Always has been.
Actually, he doesn't have to wait that long. Modern tests are very effective already 8 weeks after suspected infection.
It has nothing to do with the tests. It has everything to do with how long your body takes to produce detectable anti-bodies. Most people develop them after a month, 97% of people develop them by the three-month mark. If you test yourself after 8 weeks, but you are in the 3% that take longer than 12 to be accurately tested, you'll be walking around with HIV without ever knowing it.
HIV doesn't only mean lifelong infection it also means a one way ticket out of Korea for life, if you are a foreigner.
(1) they would never know if you get an anonymous HIV test from the International Clicnic
(2) the Supreme Court has ruled it unconstitutional for Immigration to deport you simply because you have HIV. They are not allowed to do so any more. Nothing to stop them from keeping you from ENTERing with HIV, but they can no longer boot you OUT.
Many thanks to member "Hi Rub" for his great info/maps (note: the subway station # is 124, not 125, to get to the 588 RLD):
http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php? P=473227&postcount=3016
1) Cheongnyangni RLD aka 588 ("Oh-Pal-Pal" in Korean)
-On subway Line 1 (dark blue/purple), exit Cheongnyangni Station (#124)
-Take exit 5, face the Lotte department store and head to the right. At the corner of the store U-turn left and then turn right either before or after the parking structure.
-Look down the small alleys and, especially at night, the neon lighting from the windows (similar to Amsterdam's RLD set-up) will be visible.
-If taking a taxi, it'll cost approx. KRW 15, 000 from downtown Seoul. Tell the taxi driver "Oh-Pal-Pal" or "Cheongnyangni" and he'll know what you're looking for as long as you're male/men.
-Subways are open approx 6 am. Midnight, so keep that in mind if you plan on using it to/from any RLD.
About me: Mid-30s, English speaker but Asian descent so I can pass for Korean or Jap. I speak very little Korean so I have to use a lot of physical gestures to communicate (and gesturing to show that I want "blowjob" is awkward).
On Sun/24 Oct 2010 at 10 pm I arrived at 588. I don't know if it was Korea's prostitution crackdown or because it was Sunday, but only 1/2 of the windows had lights on while the other 1/2 had lights off (ie closed). I walked down the alleys and saw total about 35 escorts wearing mostly evening gown dresses or mini-skirts with tight shirts. I'd say 80% were under 30 and 20% were over 30 y/o. The 35 escorts I saw were visible in their windows, so perhaps another 15(?) were busy with customers.
I chose a 24 y/o cutie with a face of 8, but the body turned out to be only 6 due to the small, saggy boobs and slight stomach chubbiness. I'd rate her service 8 since I was pretty happy with it. It was KRW 70, 000 for 15 min. When I entered the small bedroom, I paid her the money, she went somewhere (I assume to give the money to mamasan), and when she returned I took off my boxers and laid on the bed. She got naked, wiped my crotch with baby wipes and proceeded with a BBBJ for a minute, which was too short. Then she put the condom on and did woman-on-top for a couple of minutes, which was too short. She then said "change-uh" (position) but since her body was kind of a turn off and I'm not that into CFS, I told here I just wanted more BJ and no intercourse. She said something like "acki. Ande-oh" (means something like "cum(?). Don't) while pointing to her mouth and I assured her I wouldn't do CIM, though I prefer to (Pattaya, Thailand seems the best place for finding girls to take CIM). So she started on the BBBJ again and for variety and to get a better view of her best asset (her face), I went from laying down to sitting on the bed's edge with her kneeling on the pillow to blow me. After a few minutes of that I stood up and she continued the BJ, alternating with handjob action. The timer went off indicating the session was over and she stopped the BJ. I told her I would "acki" by jerking myself off and she politely waited while I finished myself off on to some tissue. I was pretty happy with the BJ+handjob duration/effort, though her BJ technique was ok.
Tips regarding the Cheongnyangni RLD:
-For an escort with a nice body, choose the most scantily clad girl so you can see her stomach and the size/outline shape of her boobs.
-I thought I saw some lady boys, but wasn't positive. All the girls were pretty tall because of the shoes/high-heels.
-From this one experience and my few times in the Seoul RLDs between 2000-2002, BBBJ+CFS seems standards.
-If you're foreigner that isn't Asian-descent, you might not get service or you might have to pay a higher price eg a total price of KRW 150, 000(?).
2) On Sat/23 Oct at 3 am I also stopped by 2 "anma's" (barbershop/massage parlour) near Hongdae (Hongik University subway station). You can find an anma on almost every block in Seoul. Anyways, I didn't partake since the masseuse/escorts were 35+, ok face, but body-type too chubby for my tastes. At both anma's the boss (guy at one anma, and mamasan at another) said it was KRW 90, 000 including FS. I asked how about BJ's and they indicated "no, " only massage + FS. I think the session runs for 45 min-1 hr, but I still wasn't interested since I figured the RLD has more attractive women who I can better see amongst the neon/fluorescent lighting (it's pretty dark in the anma's massage room where they bring the masseuse to you).
Notes regarding anma (note: I have never paid up, only entered, seen the room, and inquired about the service).
-It's a hassle to find an ideal escort since each anma only has 2+ girls, and if you don't like them then you have to go to another anma down the street.
-When you enter the room, you're supposed to put on the very loose boxer-type shorts they provide then lay on the massage bed. I assume that they progress from massage, to HJ, to FS.
-You should confirm that FS is included, since they may only provide massage+HJ which may or may not include groping the (naked?) masseuse.
.To find an anma, look for barbershops with the double/two, spinning barber poles outside the shop. Or any barbershop that's open late at night (eg 3 am).
3) I didn't have time or the energy to hit the RLD at Yongsan station and elsewhere. Back in 2001 there was an RLD next to the Seoul Station (where Line 1 and Line 4 meet), but I've never been to that RLD next to the Seoul train station and don't know if it's still there. 588 used to be the biggest Seoul RLD, don't know if that's still true.
I'll be in AC (Angeles City) 26 Oct. Early Nov if you want to meet up, and I might hit up Manila City/LA Cafe (which I've heard is now Manila Bay Cafe) around early Nov. Mid-Nov. Just PM me if you're interested in meeting up. I'll post those reports in the appropriate PI (Philippines) forums.
I will be going to Korea for the first time, arriving nov 1.
I will be there for 5 days for work, I wont have time to travel far from the hotel that I am staying at which is right next to Incheon international airport.
I would like to know if there is anything near the airport where I can get some pussy. Maybe an anma? possibly an out call?
I would appreciate if someone can help me out thank you
I will be going to Korea for the first time, arriving nov 1.
I will be there for 5 days for work, I wont have time to travel far from the hotel that I am staying at which is right next to Incheon international airport.
I would like to know if there is anything near the airport where I can get some pussy. Maybe an anma? possibly an out call?
I would appreciate if someone can help me out thank youYou would have to hit a taxi to head to Anmas by the AP, some may or may not take you as a westerner. You can check Craigslist for seoul, under "erotic encounters" a few freelancers as well as agencies that do out call. Most are about 220,000 KW for 60 min/1 shot for out call. Might be a bit more to Incheon.
If you want a rub and tug, look for the double barber poles, cost about 70,000 1 sometimes 2 shots and a half way decent massage.
Turtle Power
10-26-10, 06:57
I got to tell you guys a story of caution
I got drunk with some friends and ended up at a double pole massage place in the middle of the night. I usually go to these places to get a good massage. It was an older lady and after the massage she turned off the lights and asked if I wanted her to be on top. I said sure. Now she had her arm/hand under her (between me and her body) and I couldn't tell if I was fucking her or her hand. It was only after that morning that I realized I could have had sex with her without a condom.
I was fuckin broken. I thought the worst and that I would get HIV, etc. I just read 28 Stories of AIDs in Africa (which you should all read b/c it's an amazing book and taught me a lot about the current state of HIV/AIDS in the world. I didn't know that there were advanced anti-retroviral drugs that could literally give you a full life even with AIDS). I couldn't eat, sleep or think about anything else. I thought I just threw away my life for a cheap 70, 000 thrill.
So I pulled myself to go back to the massage parlour and ask if she did use a condom or if she just used her hand. It was probably one of the most embarrassing and hardest things I've ever had to do since I couldn't even ask the question probably. Turns out the lady is pretty smart and only uses her hand. She talked about STDs and I realized if she was doing this for a living she would have to be playing it save or she'd probably be deadly sick by now.
I know that there are other STDs that you can get even with using condoms but it was the AIDs that really scares me.
SO PLEASE ALWAYS BE SAFE AND USE PROTECTION. Don't let that lower head do the thinking, ever. I'm going to be sticking to Kiss Bangs and Ddaedalbangs from now on. Nothing is worth that kind of grief.
It has nothing to do with the tests. It has everything to do with how long your body takes to produce detectable anti-bodies. Most people develop them after a month, 97% of people develop them by the three-month mark. If you test yourself after 8 weeks, but you are in the 3% that take longer than 12 to be accurately tested, you'll be walking around with HIV without ever knowing it.
(1) they would never know if you get an anonymous HIV test from the International Clicnic
(2) the Supreme Court has ruled it unconstitutional for Immigration to deport you simply because you have HIV. They are not allowed to do so any more. Nothing to stop them from keeping you from ENTERing with HIV, but they can no longer boot you OUT.
Hey long time yall. Well, was back on the hill again seeing whats new. Still I had to pay a visit to some of my old regulars. First was the short (midget) girl with the huge ass LOL.come now yall, if you havn't tried her yet you should She's got her own place across the street and everything. Bean I believe her name is. Always good service with her. Even down to do two guys no problem. So after I was done there, I still wanted to see if there were any new faces. So I walk right past her club which is ABC I believe (really need to start paying attention) And I think I stumbled into Capital. Small place with the bar on the right side. Small couch in the front and behind the curtain a huge TV and sofa/bed or something. Well, there is this really ugly chick in there but there is this really cute one also. Her name is Na Young. Her English is great, really nice personality. She says she was in NY for 4 years and came back here. Anyway, great time with her. Nice tan, cute petite body and lots of fun in the bed. One more stop from the night before. Totally forget the name of the place but I swear it's the biggest place on the hill. Plants everywhere, pool table and it's like a maze in there LOL. Forget her name but a nice girl with a very nice body, especially figuring she's a little older. Anyway, paid 300 for 3 lady drinks and she said I could stay as long as I wanted and as many pops as I'd like until I decided to leave. Suffice to say I had a great time. Well, I'm kinda worried about giving away too much info if some of the girls are reading this forum now thanks to some loser.
Anyway, happy hunting yall!
Not that busy 2/3 closed.
Yongdongpo was quite busy after 10pm.
Most girls were 5s-7s in Yongdongpo.
I got to tell you guys a story of caution
I got drunk with some friends and ended up at a double pole massage place in the middle of the night. I usually go to these places to get a good massage. It was an older lady and after the massage she turned off the lights and asked if I wanted her to be on top. I said sure. Now she had her arm/hand under her (between me and her body) and I couldn't tell if I was fucking her or her hand. It was only after that morning that I realized I could have had sex with her without a condom.
I was fuckin broken. I thought the worst and that I would get HIV, etc. I just read 28 Stories of AIDs in Africa (which you should all read b/c it's an amazing book and taught me a lot about the current state of HIV/AIDS in the world. I didn't know that there were advanced anti-retroviral drugs that could literally give you a full life even with AIDS). I couldn't eat, sleep or think about anything else. I thought I just threw away my life for a cheap 70, 000 thrill.
I know that there are other STDs that you can get even with using condoms but it was the AIDs that really scares me.Even though guys really should endeavor to wrap their shit up, you really need to educate yourself on HIV and transmission rates. You do know that transmission from an HIV positive woman to a man via vaginal sex is less than 1% right?
Again, not saying guys shouldnt use protection as there are dozens of other diseases that will make your life hell -- but HIV/AIDS carries with it a shit ton of disinformation.
Does anyone have a map to Supreman or an address/directions?
Do you have to pre make a reservation at a Kiss Bang?
Or if you show up as a gyopo you can get in?
Do you have to pre make a reservation at a Kiss Bang?
Or if you show up as a gyopo you can get in?Thats probably the only way you can get in is if your a Gyopo or speak the language. If you find a Kiss Bang that you like and plan to repeat vitit them, I am sure they can make an attempt to have a faviorate lady around upon your return.
Thats probably the only way you can get in is if your a Gyopo or speak the language. If you find a Kiss Bang that you like and plan to repeat vitit them, I am sure they can make an attempt to have a faviorate lady around upon your return.I'm a white European who can speak Korean fairly well, does anyone know of a Kiss Bang where you can just show up without an appointment and they accept a Korean speaking white man? I've tried a few places but was turned down because they said I had to make an appointment and gave me their card, but that's too much of a hazzle for me. I just wanna go spontaneously sometime.
Thats probably the only way you can get in is if your a Gyopo or speak the language. If you find a Kiss Bang that you like and plan to repeat vitit them, I am sure they can make an attempt to have a faviorate lady around upon your return.Better yet, if she likes you and you visit her more than a few times she will give you her number and you can bypass the front desk and make reservation directly with her. This is the way to go and if dont want anymore hit or miss experiences.
I'm a white European who can speak Korean fairly well, does anyone know of a Kiss Bang where you can just show up without an appointment and they accept a Korean speaking white man? I've tried a few places but was turned down because they said I had to make an appointment and gave me their card, but that's too much of a hazzle for me. I just wanna go spontaneously sometime.Normally you login into their website and see who is working that day. And if you see a girl you like you call up the establishment and try to make reservation.
If she's very popular, you have to call first thing in the morning (around 10 am) to make the reservation.
Having said that, there is one Kissing room that I know of that has an open system that you can just walk in without a reservation. It's in Hongdae and its called Kiss Time. It's behind the famous gas station at four way intersection where SC bank and VIPS are.
Good luck.
Superman is nice. I haven't been in quite a while and don't quite remember where it is.
You mind posting an address or map?
Thanks much!
After spending a week in Seoul, I had the opportunty of checking out most of the RLDs. Being a white guy who doesn't speak the language made for a very frustrating time.
My hotel, Marriot Courtyard at Times Square is very close to Youngdeungpo (literally right behind the hotel!). Unfortunately not one girl would even make eye contact. Continuing beyond the RDL and make a left and there are a few old women who were open for business, but I wasn't interested.
I went to Miari and the 2nd row mamsans meckoned me in to check out the offerings. After reviewing my options, I took an eager one. Unfortunately, once we got in the room, all the enthusiasm left and we both had a horrible time.
Then I went to 588 and again got the cold shoulder except for one attactive young lady who quoted 90000W. I think she felt sorry for me. I didn't partake.
I then checked out Yongsan near the electronics market. Along the back alleys, I had some interest but most were very old or past their time. There was a reasonable one which I spent some time with. Much better than my Miari experience but not great.
I think the only RLD I missed was Bundang. It's a shame I was completely surrounded by workers yet so little was available. This place needs an additute adjustment!
AmericanThief
11-11-10, 02:53
Why go to a Kiss Bang? You talk a bit and kiss a bit with some touching and the final five minutes you're allowed to masterbate in front of her.
Why go to a Kiss Bang? You talk a bit and kiss a bit with some touching and the final five minutes you're allowed to masterbate in front of her.Some guys want GFE rather than expending their precious "energy" on wham bam thank you ma'am experience. Especially older folks. Also there is less damage to the wallet. LOL
Why go to a Kiss Bang? You talk a bit and kiss a bit with some touching and the final five minutes you're allowed to masterbate in front of her.
i think its for the different experience.
just like people may go to FKKs in Europe or watch some coke bottle go where they shouldn't fit in BKK.
so speaking of that...
any suggestions for or a kiss bang or school girl theme place near where i'll be staying right outside samseong station?
thanks much.
Superman is nice. I haven't been in quite a while and don't quite remember where it is.
You mind posting an address or map?
Thanks much!I think you mean this place :
http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=507221&wy=1108617&level=4&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=154.0312367846246&tilt=-5.487957363344751&zoom=-3&panoid=4363322&screenMode=normal
Why go to a Kiss Bang? You talk a bit and kiss a bit with some touching and the final five minutes you're allowed to masterbate in front of her.
As already stated, some prefer the GFE. I really don't give a fuck about FS. I want the experience of closeness and affection. Kissing and making out is VERY personal and (IMO) much more enjoyable than just sticking it to her for 30 minutes.
As already stated, some prefer the GFE. I really don't give a fuck about FS. I want the experience of closeness and affection. Kissing and making out is VERY personal and (IMO) much more enjoyable than just sticking it to her for 30 minutes.
Aaah, the lies we tell ourselves... :)
Kimchi Warrior
11-13-10, 00:19
As already stated, some prefer the GFE. I really don't give a fuck about FS. I want the experience of closeness and affection. Kissing and making out is VERY personal and (IMO) much more enjoyable than just sticking it to her for 30 minutes.
Apparently so do a lot of guys, judging from the number of providers I know who tell me about the significant number of customers who pay the price of a full trip (often bringing their own wine or whiskey to boot) for just talk.
But let's face it, 99% of the time GFE is, at best, simulated GFE, even when no sex is involved
The best of all possible worlds are:
(i) the real deal and sex (very rare w/ a provider, but not impossible)
(ii) good simlucram GFE and sex, and
(iii) pure PSE sport-fucking with a provider who's into it.
If I need a girl friend, there are plenty of eligible and willing civilians around.
Apparently so do a lot of guys, judging from the number of providers I know who tell me about the significant number of customers who pay the price of a full trip (often bringing their own wine or whiskey to boot) for just talk.
But let's face it, 99% of the time GFE is, at best, simulated GFE, even when no sex is involved
The best of all possible worlds are:
(i) the real deal and sex (very rare w/ a provider, but not impossible)
(ii) good simlucram GFE and sex, and
(iii) pure PSE sport-fucking with a provider who's into it.
If I need a girl friend, there are plenty of eligible and willing civilians around.But there is a difference in GFE and an actual GF. With a provider who gives you a GFE you get only the positive sides of a GF, an actual civilian GF demands alot more from you than your precious money. I haven't tried the Kiss Bang yet, but the concept is very appealing to me, more so than the red light district (588, Yongsan) mechanical sex.
OldAsiaHand
11-13-10, 05:15
I stayed at the Courtyard Marriott this week and took a stroll through the RLD around the back around 11pm. I did not receive even one call for action in two passes. Not even a smile.
OAH
If I need a girl friend, there are plenty of eligible and willing civilians around.
That's the thing. I *don't* want a girlfriend. The GFE is the next best thing, and I know when it's finished, she leaves. No downside of an actual GF.
I've never been to a Kiss Bang in Korea--I feel they're just too expensive for what is provided--however, I do see the attraction to such a place.
Aaah, the lies we tell ourselves... :)
Whatever, Dr. Phil.
A word of advise to the fellas here: Capital Hotel is not any longer what used to be.
Three yrs ago you'd go there, be cleaned (tub and shower), would have a quick massage, then oil all over and body-to-body (i.e., soapy), and the final act. And would be very friendly (although no DFK).
Went there last week to revive good memories, and was disappointed: tub and shower was in the menu, followed by a regular back massage, then no soapy and direct to the final procedures (after the rubber being put on).
Quite mechanical, not good. Forget about this place in case you may be considering going back there.
Turtle Power
11-14-10, 17:23
Does this ever happen? Seriously though. Really?
I always thought girls needed the place b/c of security and that they don't want guys to know where they live.
Better yet, if she likes you and you visit her more than a few times she will give you her number and you can bypass the front desk and make reservation directly with her. This is the way to go and if dont want anymore hit or miss experiences.
Turtle Power
11-14-10, 17:44
Here are some tidbits:
Massage Place Near Seoul University Station (3rd Floor)
-Fully lockable doors. A lot older ladies but nice massage and thorough time with HJ. 80,000
http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489685&wy=1105930&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=204.37882017145742&tilt=-17.463276130758224&zoom=3&panoid=4600983&screenMode=normal
"Massage Place" But really a FS place Near Seoul Uni. Station (3rd Floor)
-Ok it's going to look pretty seedy at night and once you get up there the boss looks pretty sleazy. Rooms have a bed and a shower. You shower first and girl comes in.
-Girl is Chinese but wow the body was amazing (big breasts and hips). Closest thing to Jessica Rabbit from the movies. Or if you watch the tv show Mad Man think of Joan. Face is ok but bad teeth.
-Blah massage but 90,000 for quick FS. Would have liked to have gone to RDL instead.
http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489827&wy=1105933&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=43.48856467314806&tilt=-4.687510961414041&zoom=3&panoid=4103580&screenMode=normal
Hotel Massage.
-Basement. Lots of rooms with locked doors.
-Oddly had slippers and robes from "HERA" which is an Anma near Seoulleung station.
-Average massage with FS with an older lady.
-90,000. Nothing special except it looked clean and the location/entrance is discrete
http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489983&wy=1105860&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=212.4394945123497&tilt=-0.7603627406215185&zoom=3&panoid=4103610&screenMode=normal
Does this ever happen? Seriously though. Really?
I always thought girls needed the place b/c of security and that they don't want guys to know where they live.Yes, it happened to me. I didn't ask for it though. She volunteered it without me asking. And my korean speaking abilty is at best high beginner. So our conversations don't get very far. It's all body language after that. I'm a kyopo by the way.
Secret of my success: "act" cute and treat her with the utmost respect.
Giving her orgasm without intercourse doesn't hurt her either. LOL
Actually she should be paying me now that I think about it. LOL
Georges Orwell
11-16-10, 17:36
Turtle Power, it seems you tried many stuff.
Do you have any good adress around Sinchon, Hongdae, or anywhere in Mapo-Dong, even around. I wonder.
Thanks in advance
Here are some tidbits:
Massage Place Near Seoul University Station (3rd Floor)
-Fully lockable doors. A lot older ladies but nice massage and thorough time with HJ. 80,000
http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489685&wy=1105930&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=204.37882017145742&tilt=-17.463276130758224&zoom=3&panoid=4600983&screenMode=normal
"Massage Place" But really a FS place Near Seoul Uni. Station (3rd Floor)
-Ok it's going to look pretty seedy at night and once you get up there the boss looks pretty sleazy. Rooms have a bed and a shower. You shower first and girl comes in.
-Girl is Chinese but wow the body was amazing (big breasts and hips). Closest thing to Jessica Rabbit from the movies. Or if you watch the tv show Mad Man think of Joan. Face is ok but bad teeth.
-Blah massage but 90,000 for quick FS. Would have liked to have gone to RDL instead.
http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489827&wy=1105933&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=43.48856467314806&tilt=-4.687510961414041&zoom=3&panoid=4103580&screenMode=normal
Hotel Massage.
-Basement. Lots of rooms with locked doors.
-Oddly had slippers and robes from "HERA" which is an Anma near Seoulleung station.
-Average massage with FS with an older lady.
-90,000. Nothing special except it looked clean and the location/entrance is discrete
http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=489983&wy=1105860&level=3&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=212.4394945123497&tilt=-0.7603627406215185&zoom=3&panoid=4103610&screenMode=normal
Here are some tidbits:
"Massage Place" But really a FS place Near Seoul Uni. Station (3rd Floor)
-Ok it's going to look pretty seedy at night and once you get up there the boss looks pretty sleazy. Rooms have a bed and a shower. You shower first and girl comes in.
-Girl is Chinese but wow the body was amazing (big breasts and hips). Closest thing to Jessica Rabbit from the movies. Or if you watch the tv show Mad Man think of Joan. Face is ok but bad teeth.
-Blah massage but 90, 000 for quick FS. Would have liked to have gone to RDL instead.
Panoid=4103610&screenMode=normal[/url]Any detailed report on this Chinese girl? Was she old? Were her breasts natural? How's her performance? Etc.
Turtle Power
11-17-10, 11:16
Any detailed report on this Chinese girl? Was she old? Were her breasts natural? How's her performance? Etc.Yes, you'll find her face a bit older(40's) looking than her body which made me suspicious that she had a lot of work done. Body looked young and no stretch marks/sagging. Breasts did look and feel natural. She was very nice and smiley but a dead fish in bed. No eye contact. No kissing. Would not repeat.
Turtle Power
11-17-10, 11:29
Turtle Power, it seems you tried many stuff.
Do you have any good adress around Sinchon, Hongdae, or anywhere in Mapo-Dong, even around. I wonder.
Thanks in advanceActually I've never tried any places where you mentioned. I've gone clubbing in Hongdae which I recommend that all you do for a crazy time and lots of girls.
I did notice that there are lots and lots of Kiss Bangs in Hongdae and Sillim, in open view. Just walk out of the subway station at night and you'll lots of neon signs up.
Sometimes I go through that old(2006-2007) National DaeDalDang List, translate the directions, then try to find it on Daum Road View, and then go see if it's still there as even Daum Road View pics are out of date. The majority of the places on that old list are now Kiss Bangs. I guess b/c they still make crazy money with less police hassle due to that legal loop hole and they can put up shop right in direct public view. LMAO, saw some Kiss Bangs beside schools and churches.
Unforgettablesk
11-18-10, 11:51
This woman is possibly infected with HIV and may be a tranny. I have recieved a report about her from a friend.
Kimchi Warrior
11-18-10, 20:24
This woman is possibly infected with HIV and may be a tranny. I have recieved a report about her from a friend.
Who is she; where does she work?
Kimchi Warrior
11-19-10, 01:28
Who is she; where does she work?
Is she the Thai who sometimes stalks the 'ville and seems to live in the really down-market yeogwan at the lower end of fish alley, when she's in town?
Georges Orwell
11-19-10, 11:47
Actually I've never tried any places where you mentioned. I've gone clubbing in Hongdae which I recommend that all you do for a crazy time and lots of girls.
I did notice that there are lots and lots of Kiss Bangs in Hongdae and Sillim, in open view. Just walk out of the subway station at night and you'll lots of neon signs up.
Sometimes I go through that old(2006-2007) National DaeDalDang List, translate the directions, then try to find it on Daum Road View, and then go see if it's still there as even Daum Road View pics are out of date. The majority of the places on that old list are now Kiss Bangs. I guess b/c they still make crazy money with less police hassle due to that legal loop hole and they can put up shop right in direct public view. LMAO, saw some Kiss Bangs beside schools and churches.Thanks for your answer.
Ah yes this famous list. I also did same, but in the area I mentionned, many are down, or if by chance you find one place, there is a big chance to be blocked at the entrance. Around gangnam is more foreigner friendly. But anyway recently I found a place near hapjong station with great service from simple HJ to FS, you can choose. Also I saw several people talking about Cleopatra in sinchon. You should try IVY, its not far. Young girls are naked, massage, then HJ/ real BJ/HJ. I will give more information later if some people are interested.
Unforgettablesk
11-19-10, 13:11
Yes. This Dao is Thai and she speaks with a deep voice. Her body does like a woman, but my friend still have some suspicions. She lives in the Yeogwan that one of you spoke of. She is quite popular I have been told.
Unforgettablesk
11-19-10, 14:07
This woman stays in a small motel near Hamilton Hotel. She is from Thailand. Be careful. She reportedly has HIV.
George,
Where is IVY, near Cleopatra?
Thanks for your answer.
Ah yes this famous list. I also did same, but in the area I mentionned, many are down, or if by chance you find one place, there is a big chance to be blocked at the entrance. Around gangnam is more foreigner friendly. But anyway recently I found a place near hapjong station with great service from simple HJ to FS, you can choose. Also I saw several people talking about Cleopatra in sinchon. You should try IVY, its not far. Young girls are naked, massage, then HJ/ real BJ/HJ. I will give more information later if some people are interested.
One more thing if you like huge tits, check out Ji Hye at VIP. She's been called a barracuda on here, but I thought she was nice enough. Only downside is she said she's 36 years old! But she doesn't look it IMHO.Being a "big-natural-breasted-girls" lover, I was suggested by Kimchi Warrior about a big-titted girl in VIP. I'm assuming you're talking about the same girl. By the way, I searched this forum but can't seem to find any reports on Ji Hye. I'm really curious on her appearance and attitude before I make up my mind of going there (KW says she's a barracuda while you say she isn't :/). The last time (and the only time) I've been to the Hill was a year ago just to check it out and not for any action. I normally only head to RLD glass shops, but I've still been unsuccessful in finding a big-boobed girl.
Thanks for your answer.
Ah yes this famous list. I also did same, but in the area I mentionned, many are down, or if by chance you find one place, there is a big chance to be blocked at the entrance. Around gangnam is more foreigner friendly. But anyway recently I found a place near hapjong station with great service from simple HJ to FS, you can choose. Also I saw several people talking about Cleopatra in sinchon. You should try IVY, its not far. Young girls are naked, massage, then HJ/ real BJ/HJ. I will give more information later if some people are interested.
Could you give directions to that place in Hapjeong?
The Tanuki
11-21-10, 10:31
Looks likely that I'll be heading to Seoul for business next month. I'm wondering if there is anything similar in format to Maggies Bar in Beijing. If you haven't been there, it's a place where WG's (primarily Mongolians) hang out and there's good music while interacting with those ladies. The closest thing I can tell from the forum is JJ Mahoney's but that looks rather spendy as well as not really a sure thing. Any other spots in town that are good to investigate? Not into buymedrink joints and things like that. Just checking... :o
Cheers
The Tanuki
Kimchi Warrior
11-21-10, 12:23
Being a "big-natural-breasted-girls" lover, I was suggested by Kimchi Warrior about a big-titted girl in VIP. I'm assuming you're talking about the same girl. By the way, I searched this forum but can't seem to find any reports on Ji Hye. I'm really curious on her appearance and attitude before I make up my mind of going there (KW says she's a barracuda while you say she isn't :/). The last time (and the only time) I've been to the Hill was a year ago just to check it out and not for any action. I normally only head to RLD glass shops, but I've still been unsuccessful in finding a big-boobed girl.
Ji Hye still worked at VIPS as of about 2 months ago, so is probably still there. She's about 5'4" with long black hair and is slightly thick, but not overweight. I think she's a barracuda, but YMMV. Also on the big-titted list is the girl @ Rosy's a bit farther up the block and across the street. Don't remember her name (Candy?), but do remember that she does anal. Also a bit of a piranha IMO, and she sometimes works a tag team with Ji-Hye. Another possibility is the infamous (for binge- drinking) Ina, now @ ING up on the right near Peach Phuzz and Nymph on the main street off which hooker ill proper is the first left turn. There also are some others up on the main hill at e.g., Happy Days, but they are generally also "larger" and even, imo, grossly fat. Happy hunting.
Kimchi Warrior
11-21-10, 12:24
Yes. This Dao is Thai and she speaks with a deep voice. Her body does like a woman, but my friend still have some suspicions. She lives in the Yeogwan that one of you spoke of. She is quite popular I have been told.
Hard to believe she's popular as she's pretty nasty looking, whatever her medical status.
Kimchi Warrior
11-21-10, 12:26
Looks likely that I'll be heading to Seoul for business next month. I'm wondering if there is anything similar in format to Maggies Bar in Beijing. If you haven't been there, it's a place where WG's (primarily Mongolians) hang out and there's good music while interacting with those ladies. The closest thing I can tell from the forum is JJ Mahoney's but that looks rather spendy as well as not really a sure thing. Any other spots in town that are good to investigate? Not into buymedrink joints and things like that. Just checking... :o
Cheers
The Tanuki
In short, no: JJs is the closest thing, and it's not really comparable
The Tanuki
11-21-10, 12:43
In short, no: JJs is the closest thing, and it's not really comparable
That's what I figured. So I'll probably see if I can get a Mongolian to come over for the week instead. :p
Thanks!
The Tanuki
Being a "big-natural-breasted-girls" lover, I was suggested by Kimchi Warrior about a big-titted girl in VIP. I'm assuming you're talking about the same girl. By the way, I searched this forum but can't seem to find any reports on Ji Hye. I'm really curious on her appearance and attitude before I make up my mind of going there (KW says she's a barracuda while you say she isn't :/). The last time (and the only time) I've been to the Hill was a year ago just to check it out and not for any action. I normally only head to RLD glass shops, but I've still been unsuccessful in finding a big-boobed girl.
Yes, I'm sure we're talking about the same girl. I left Korea over two months ago so I can't speak about the current scene, but she was there back in early September; knowing the turnover rate of the Hill she's probably still there. I actually hooked up with her the night before I left Seoul, at around 4 AM; she had been sleeping so she was quite tired, but she does have a nice set of big, soft D cup tits. Her attitude? She's all business, I guess, but what do you expect from a 36 year old, big breasted Korean hooker, GFE? Ha!
Anyway, good luck trying to find big boobs in Korea; you're going to need it!
Also on the big-titted list is the girl @ Rosy's a bit farther up the block and across the street. Don't remember her name (Candy?), but do remember that she does anal. Also a bit of a piranha IMO, and she sometimes works a tag team with Ji-Hye. Another possibility is the infamous (for binge- drinking) Ina, now @ ING up on the right near Peach Phuzz and Nymph on the main street off which hooker ill proper is the first left turn. There also are some others up on the main hill at e.g., Happy Days, but they are generally also "larger" and even, imo, grossly fat. Happy hunting.Oh. I was planning on checking out Cherry from Happy Days. Reading reports on her I got the impression that she was alittle thick, but since you stated that she is generally larger and fat (I'm guessing you mean her body?), I'm having second thoughts. I remember you suggested Inna to me a long time ago, but I found reports that her breasts are fake so I have no intentions to head over to her. How big and shaped are the tits of the girl @ Rosy's? As of now I will check out Jihye @ VIP. I greatly appreciate your info KW (:
I actually hooked up with her the night before I left Seoul, at around 4 AM; she had been sleeping so she was quite tired, but she does have a nice set of big, soft D cup tits. Her attitude? She's all business, I guess, but what do you expect from a 36 year old, big breasted Korean hooker, GFE? Ha!Thanks for the report Ezinho. Rather than attitude I was mainly curious about her performance. It is indeed difficult to find big-breasted girls in Korea. Me being Korean-Japanese, I was told by some of the people in this forum to don't bother with Hooker Hill since I can easily get finer women and action at the glass RLD (which are the only places I visit). But sadly I have a thing for big natural breasts.
Kimchi Warrior
11-22-10, 08:00
Oh. I was planning on checking out Cherry from Happy Days. Reading reports on her I got the impression that she was alittle thick, but since you stated that she is generally larger and fat (I'm guessing you mean her body?), I'm having second thoughts. I remember you suggested Inna to me a long time ago, but I found reports that her breasts are fake so I have no intentions to head over to her. How big and shaped are the tits of the girl @ Rosy's? As of now I will check out Jihye @ VIP. I greatly appreciate your info KW (:
Sorry, I didn't mean to include Cherry in the fat category; I guess my convoluted syntax didn't make that clear. She's what I would call big without being fat.
Candy @ Rosy's has nicely shaped, firm D-cups and overall a better body than Ji-hye, imo.
Well I was browsing through the search again and I happened to find a report on a girl at itaewon by the name of Jina/Gina who also has natural D cup breasts. I was wondering if she's still at the hill? The last report on her was around February, and I believe she's been working there for a real long time as reports of her date back since 2003.
Kimchi Warrior
11-23-10, 03:47
Well I was browsing through the search again and I happened to find a report on a girl at itaewon by the name of Jina/Gina who also has natural D cup breasts. I was wondering if she's still at the hill? The last report on her was around February, and I believe she's been working there for a real long time as reports of her date back since 2003.
Jina is an on again/off again provider. Last time I spied her she was @ Tiffany near the top of the hill. Haven't seen her around in awhile, though.
Another hit or miss option is a girl who works @ Uncle Jack's about half way down on the south side of fish alley - the block that is a sort of extension of Hooker Hill proper running in the other direction. Don't remember the name, but she's VERY accommodating and has very soft DD pillows. She's also been around a long time; years ago she worked at Indian Joe's (which is long gone, replaced by a beauty parlor near the top of the main road beyond Cabin. Uncle Jack's itself seems to be open on an irregular basis, but you may want to saunter by and see if it is when you're in the neighborhood.
Thanks again KW. May I ask for a description on the Uncle Jack's girl's physical appearance? It seems like overall I'll be visiting 4 places at the Hill.
Kimchi Warrior
11-23-10, 04:51
Thanks again KW. May I ask for a description on the Uncle Jack's girl's physical appearance? It seems like overall I'll be visiting 4 places at the Hill.
Relatively tall for a Korean; black hair (what else?) and, these days, a little pleasingly plump; attractive face w/ large eyes but no kewpie doll or great beauty.
Was walking thru the Yongshan RLD and was surprise to see that at least 3/4 of the booths were knock down. Both sides the north and south side of the RLD. Is this the end of the road for Yongshan? Wonder where all the girls go? I don't think they would get a high turnover of clients in any other sex related business. (ie. Outcall, kiss bang) Maybe they will head to Mari or 588?
Was walking thru the Yongshan RLD and was surprise to see that at least 3/4 of the booths were knock down. Both sides the north and south side of the RLD. Is this the end of the road for Yongshan? Wonder where all the girls go? I don't think they would get a high turnover of clients in any other sex related business. (ie. Outcall, kiss bang) Maybe they will head to Mari or 588?
The last time I visited the Yongsan RLD was 4 weeks ago. The whole left side of the RLD was demolished (the windows were broken and there was red graffiti sprayed on the windows and the booths were busted up). Only 2 or 3 booths were open. The right side of the RLD was normal though. I talked to one of the girls and she was asking me if there were many men walking outside. I think she was clueless that the RLD was getting demolished.
I think she was clueless that the RLD was getting demolished.
Unlikely, despite being postponed on several occasions Yongsan RLD was scheduled for closing years ago, the original press release read that the drop dead date was the end of 2007. Too bad it had to come to this but at least the barber shops are still around that area and some more seem to have sprung up lately but they won’t come close to matching the quality of girls from the RLD.
Can anyone confirm the existence of the cheonho rld? I went there yesterday at around 8pm following these directions
http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=757231&postcount=4034
Passed the police station to my left and the row of well lit shops to my right, kept walking while looking to my right and I didn't see anything obvious except a lone double barbershop poll. Eventually I took a random right and walked down a street where I found a large space that was completely cleared. I'm hoping this wasnt the former location. After about 30minute of unsuccessful searching I gave up and headed to yongsan where I would eventually find some action but from an unexpected source.
First I'll preface this report by saying this is my first experience with a rld. I'm an american gyopo visiting family for 2 weeks and only recently found out how easy it is to get my dick wet here for a very reasonable price, thank you cards littered on the streets and internationalsexguide. My korean is not great, I'm better at understanding then speaking but I can get by.
On to yongsan. I had walked through the row earlier in the day(around 11am) on a recon run and there were maybe 4-5 girls working, knocking on the windows as I walked by to get my attention. Although I only glanced at the girls for fear eye contact would get me trapped into a nooner I thought this was nice as it was my first experience with a rld and also it being so early so I made a mental note to return after I checked out cheonho. So here I was after "checking out" cheonho, a bit buzzed from the 2 beers I slammed at the station, I took the same path I had taken early in the day expecting a mass of surgically altered young korean girls hollering to get my business. To my sadness it was kind of dead. Despite the lights being on(it was about 9:30 by this time) there were a lot of empty booths and the girls I did see were either on the phone or talking to their adjummas.
So as I exit the first row I'm thinking ok that was disappointing, certainly seems odd that I would have more girls asking for my business in the middle of the day then in the evening. This mustve been an anomaly, maybe its hooker dinner time, I'll go walk down another row a little slower and if I can't get any eager girls looking in my direction I'll start knocking on some windows. This is where things turn a little differently then I had expected. As I turn the corner I see this man, maybe in his mid 30's about 5'6, coming out of his car about 10 feet in front of me. He looks at me and makes a comment about the cold weather, I agree with him and we strike up a conversation. About 10 seconds in I've expended all my flawless korean and he's onto my foreign-ness. We start talking about where I'm from, what I'm doing in korea, this and that and finally is asks if I had done "korean sex" making a pounding gesture with his hands and pointing to the rld curtain. Now this guy seemed very friendly and with the stigma of prostitution being what it is here, or lack there of, I said I took a look and was interested but hadn't had any yet (in retrospect as I type this I realize the guy could've been an undercover cop and that was not a smart move)
So having made my intentions in the area clear we start talking about "korean sex", what kind of girls I like etc and then he says to me, you know it might be hard for you to get action here cause you're a gyopo. The girls might have problems with it, now this goes against everything I've heard but I nod my head anyways seeing where this conversation is heading and right on cue here comes the pitch. He tells me that he in fact provides a motel service, that his car is right here and he can get me a girl to have "korean sex" with no problem, making banging gesture with his hands again. He tells me for $100 us dollars I can have "showtime" 40minutes and since "showtime" in rld is 15minutes his deal is far superior, he emphasizes the time difference a number of times. Now being thoroughly confused to what this showtime is and being unable to have him explain it any further(this guy does not speak a lick of english) I figure ok whatever it is 40 minutes for $100 sounds pretty good so I ask for details. Later I find out he means "short time" not "showtime" and I correct him on his pronunciation. As per the girls I like conversation I say this girl has to be pretty, service is second to pretty to which he laughs seemingly amused to my priorities and says well the girls in the rld aren't that pretty either, this doesn't give me much confidence as it seems like he's dodging my inquiry. He tells me that his service is entirely for koreans, so much so that he has to call get to action for a gyopo(this guy is seriously trying to make me think gyopos have it rough here) he says I can be sure that the girl I get only has sex with koreans. Apparently this is desirable even though I could care less. But the connivence of this offer being what it is and as I think about my very uneventful albeit short walk through one alley of the row I'm seriously considering this random mans proposition. The only hang over now being do I get into the car of a man I had just met 10 minutes earlier in a city that is still very new to me. Now of course if this were the states it would be a hell freaking no but seoul is a different city, I feel, probably to my detriment, overly safe here, so I agree and get into his car.
So I don't make this post too long I will continue with my experience in a separate post.
I'm perfectly content to confront the K male, but lack of language skills prevents me from being able to navigate such situations.
otherwise, I'd be forced to just grunt out a hearty "mohl -bah?" (basically an aggressive, banmal way of saying, what are you looking at?)
and see what the stupid dork would do in response.
since I'm usually twice their size, they'd be slinking off with their tiny balls between their legs, losing lots of 'face' in the process.
and I'd laugh.
but you need good language skills (which I don't have) and you need to be into the local females more (which I'm not)
Jack Rabbit
11-27-10, 03:42
personally, i have never had a problem with the koreans. its always my own buddies that seem to take special pleasure in fucking up my game, such as slipping the girl their cards, butting in asking the girl to dance, confronting her when she comes out of the bathroom, etc, etc.
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i feel your pain. a good wingman is hard to find, but is essential in korea. recently, i found out my western "friend" has been calling and texting my gfe local pickup. apparently, he couldn't close the sale with her friend, so he switched hitters, even though i have been shagging mine for over 6 months! he gave me some lame excuses (numerous times), but it has sent my blood boiling. problem is he and i work together and i have to restrain myself from throwing him off the roof.
with all the talent to be had, i can't understand the cockblocking and birddogging (stealing your target). is it becoming that competitive here, or are guys getting that much more desperate?
as for p4p, i have had a steady local talent rotation, so i only frequented the hill once recently. the usual pinch hitters (looking more ragged). decided to sportfuck an old regular (beside old town). wondering if she is cracked out? vacant stare, absence of playful humour, and didn't voice a peep.
So I get into this guy car, nothing fancy some kind of korean brand car and off we go. He gets on the phone and calls what I assume is a girl as he tells her that he has a gyopo whose korean is so so and asks if that is ok with her. Seems like it wasn't so he hangs up and calls another number, this time it sounds like he's calling the hotel as he says again that he's bringing a gyopo and that I will need service. He hangs up and says everything is good to go and that were heading to a hotel in someplace, the name of which goes in one ear and out the other. So the car ride is about 5 minutes and we talk about how things are in america, what I do there, how much I make(very korean thing to do) how I like it in seoul, random small talk. At this point I'm fairly confident I won't be murdered but the service end of it I'm still not too sure of. I ask about the girl and he's says its ok the service will be good but that I would need to wear a condom, he insists on this multiple times despite me saying I had no intentions of going bare back even it were offered.
We arrive at the hotel and its a very typical nondescript building, he walks me upstairs and brings me to a room, tells me to shower and then put on a condom, I was confused by this, put on a condom before the girl gets here?, but I say ok and he leaves saying if there are any problems come to hyung(himself). So I got undressed took a quick shower and I lay down on the bed and wait. About 5 minutes pass and I get a knock on the door and the girl comes in, I'd say she's about a 7, 5'6, hair down to her heck wearing a tight dress skirt, decent but not knocking my socks off although this being my first provider I have only normal korean girls to compare her to. She asks if I've waited long, how I was and walks over and turns the tv on then proceeds to turn off the lights. Now I'm a decently fit guy and pretty confident about my appearance so I don't take that too harshly but I would've preferred to keep the lights on. She then starts to undress like she's going to take a shower, very unseductively. And of course she goes and takes a quick shower haha. Her body was actually nice, fit girl not stick skinny with a decent set of B's and an awesome ass. Anyways she comes back and starts going to work right away, no DFK or anything, HJ service with the obligatory moans. Now right away its obvious I will be getting a phoned in service but we continue. The HJ is followed by a CBJ that was less than enthusiastic then she gets on top and does a little riding before she lays down on top of me and asks me to go at it, so here I am doing all the work pumping away, she's not very tight so I'm mildly entertained at this point, a few minutes of this and she says change position and gets on her back for missionary. Ok whatever so I get to work, during mish I goto put her legs on my shoulders and she says it hurts so that ends that. A few minutes later she says change position again. Well its pretty obvious who's in charge here. As I leave missionary and as she turns around I look down at the bed and see patches of blood on the white sheets. So I tell her theres freaking blood whats going on, she tells me its because I'm too big. Apparently I've punctured her with my giant man spear that I wasnt aware I had, I don't know whats going on and she goes to the bathroom to clean herself of my apparent stabbing wound. Now I wasn't freaked out about the blood since I was covered but it certainly detracted from my already luke warm experience.
So she returns from the bathroom and has me lay down and proceeds to HJ, CBJ me again to get me going then lies face down on her chest and has me do her from the back. At this point I just wanted to get this over with since neither of us were really enjoying ourselves have sex on top of her period blood. So I finish in that position and she gets up pulls my condom off and proceeds to tell me to go clean myself up. We have some small talk as we both put on our clothes and I walk out throughly disappointed. I will be trying yongsan rld again.
Member #4601
11-29-10, 21:55
Can anyone confirm the existence of the cheonho rld? I went there yesterday at around 8pm following these directions
http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=757231&postcount=4034
Passed the police station to my left and the row of well lit shops to my right, kept walking while looking to my right and I didn't see anything obvious except a lone double barbershop poll. Eventually I took a random right and walked down a street where I found a large space that was completely cleared. I'm hoping this wasnt the former location. After about 30minute of unsuccessful searching I gave up and headed to yongsan where I would eventually find some action but from an unexpected source.I went there a number of times in the summer of '09. I was planning on returning to Korea next year, so I was not happy to read this post.
IIRC after the police station on the left and the row of shops on the right, there should be an entrance to an alley on the right, and immediately following that, an entrance to a parking lot (fenced-in, I think?). It's the entrance to the alley that I always used. Everytime I went this way, there was a car blocking the entrance to this alley, but once you get past that, you can see some booths.
You might have come too early, especially if you went on a weeknight. When I went there I would be there around 9pm on a Friday or Saturday night. There were enough places open, and there weren't many other customers around.
Mk Life, or anyone else interested, I would be much obliged if someone can check to see if Cheonho is still there or not. It was one of my favorite spots when I was in Korea.
69
I went there a number of times in the summer of '09. I was planning on returning to Korea next year, so I was not happy to read this post.
IIRC after the police station on the left and the row of shops on the right, there should be an entrance to an alley on the right, and immediately following that, an entrance to a parking lot (fenced-in, I think?). It's the entrance to the alley that I always used. Everytime I went this way, there was a car blocking the entrance to this alley, but once you get past that, you can see some booths.
You might have come too early, especially if you went on a weeknight. When I went there I would be there around 9pm on a Friday or Saturday night. There were enough places open, and there weren't many other customers around.
Mk Life, or anyone else interested, I would be much obliged if someone can check to see if Cheonho is still there or not. It was one of my favorite spots when I was in Korea.
69I will try looking again Eum, i was looking for a curtain like in yongsan right off the main street so i couldve missed if its a bit more subtle then that.
I will try looking again Eum, i was looking for a curtain like in yongsan right off the main street so i couldve missed if its a bit more subtle then that.Did you go out exit 3 and go straight until you got to Woori Bank? Take right at this 4 way intersection. Walk 100 meters and on your left and across the street you will see 2001 Outlet. Cross the street and the small street to right of 2001 Outlet is where you want to head into. Walk about 10 meters and you will see the familiar neon pink lights.
I found this website today and it was quite helpful. Turned an otherwise boring trip into an entertaining one.
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Anma
Back to China tomorrow...good bye for now Korea.
LA
For those who don't know, you can reach these places by Taxi going to "Bangbang sageori" or from Yangjae station exit 3: go straight north downhill on the large road, then turn left after 5 min walk, at the Prudential tower. Cool is about a hundred meters up on the left, Belle is just a bit after on the right side of the road.
Before I begin my report, I'll correct Natloz's instructions. If you leave the Yangjae Station from Exit 3, you will walk very slightly up a hill and then walk down the hill toward the Prudential Tower. The tower is on the right hand side of the road. Turn right, NOT LEFT, at the Tower intersection and walk toward Cool and Belle. As mentioned above, Cool is on the left hand side and Belle is slightly farther on the right hand side of the road. Belle is on the corner immediately before the first intersection with a traffic signal (if my recollection is correct). Unfortunately, I walked around for 20 minutes following Natloz's suggested left turn. No biggee though, because one of the better P4P experiences of my mongering career followed.
I'm not going to go into significant detail about the visit, because I don't want to spoil a good thing for those of you who live in this city. Let it be said, however, that you guys must be MAJORLY underplaying how great Belle can be. I've played on the Itaewon Hill, and had dalliances in each of the major RLD's of this city, and this was the best bang for my buck I've ever had in Korea. It was better GFE than with anyone except my GF in the Philippines! Okay, I'll stop with the superlatives, but believe me that this place has great potential!
My experience proceeded as described by everyone else until my masseuse entered the room. While her face was not incredible, she was very pleasant to look at and a lot of fun to talk with. Her college-aged body was smokin'! Great full B cups and an ass that was fantastic...especially for a KOREAN woman!!
I don't speak Korean, am middle-aged, balding, and have BMI that is not very flattering, but I ended up with one of the best experiences I have ever had at an establishment like this. I am convinced it is all in the game and the conversation. Treat them well, use a little psychology, and enjoy the ride. By the end of the session, which included two pops for me and several orgasms for her in the hour we were together, nothing was off limits. I finally had to stop the action lest I succomb to her begging and violate one of my cardinal P4P rules...you can read between the lines as to what she was asking for. I'm definitely going back to see her again, but I'll be more prepared this time (wink, wink).
I'm not going to post her name on here...sorry...I don't want to get her in trouble or ruin it for the other guys who probably already see her regularly! Seniors may PM for more details.
If you leave the Yangjae Station from Exit 3, you will walk very slightly up a hill and then walk down the hill toward the Prudential Tower. The tower is on the right hand side of the road. Turn right, NOT LEFT, at the Tower intersection and walk toward Cool and Belle. As mentioned above, Cool is on the left hand side and Belle is slightly farther on the right hand side of the road. Belle is on the corner immediately before the first intersection with a traffic signal (if my recollection is correct).
Correction...it is the SECOND intersection with a traffic signal. Immediately past the Playboy Golf Store and the Ping Golf Store.
How much doess full service cost at belle? 180k? 220k?
How much doess full service cost at belle? 180k? 220k?Belle is NOT FS unless things have changed since last month. I paid 70k. YMMV on the SP but never included FS.
Turtle Power
12-04-10, 01:40
How much doess full service cost at belle? 180k? 220k?
I don't think that's how it works. From what I can tell, from places like Belle, there is a standard flat rate of 70, 000-80, 000. They expect you to know that it's not full service and some places tell you not to touch the girl under the belt.
Whether you just more than a HJ depends on the girl so your mileage may vary.
My trip to Seoul wasn’t planned (change of itinerary during my trip) so I didn’t have the chance to do any research on the board and I have zero Korean language skills. I stayed one night at the at a high end hotel in Gangnam – getting in about 10pm. I decided to walk around Yeoksamdong to see what I could find but there wasn’t much that I could figure out as I didn’t understand the BBS and An-Ma scene that I’ve since learned about by RTFF.
I went back to the hotel and had some food/drink in the lounge to see if there was any action there but saw nothing. Back in the room, I noticed that they offered a one hour in-room massage from a blind woman for $40k, which from memory I assumed meant non-sexual. I decided that a good massage would be great after two days in airplanes. Twenty minutes later a guide brought the woman to my room and she set up on the bed.
I had never had a massage on a bed before but she was very good at it, starting me face up. I created a couple of incidental contact situations but she moved on by and stayed focused on her work before turning me over face down for the last half hour. A few times during the massage, she made motions that she liked how big my body was (I’ve guess she likes working on large foreign men).
As the hour was ending, I was surprised when she started massaging my glutes a bit so I responded and she started probing my ass before eventually playing with my balls. She was older and less attractive than I would normally go with but this wasn’t planned and I decided to turn over for a bonus rub and tug.
She surprised me by starting into a decent BBJ, which got me really worked up. I could tell that she had no panties under her dress as she straddled my legs and she was getting wet, so I decided what the hell and indicated to her to do the BBJ while straddling my face. She had a lot more hair than I like but I persevered. At one point she tried to mount me but I pulled her away as we didn’t have a cover. I guess she didn’t have another appointment as we must have spent an extra 30 minutes playing until we both came and she cleaned up. If this was her normal MO, she did a great job of making it seem unexpected.
Now came the problem of deciding how much to pay her as I had no reference points. I decided to give her $70k but given she was blind I wasn’t sure how to count the money to her. I resorted to some rusty Japanese, which worked as I counted out the seven bills. I think she may have wanted a little more but once I set my mind on an amount, it’s hard to get me off of it. Again, not the provider I would have chosen, but the experience was good, unexpected and inexpensive.
Again, not the provider I would have chosen, but the experience was good, unexpected and inexpensive.
This kind of unexpected experience makes it that much better. Sounds like a good time to me despite her not looking exactly how you would have liked.
Good job!
Went to 588 (Cheongnyangni) red light district yesterday, Monday afternoon around 4pm. There weren't many girls working, maybe around 10 or so in the whole area but most of them really goodlooking. As usual being a white guy I was ignored, just went through to check it out basically. But one girl suddenly waved and smiled at me, a young and very cute girl. So I went over and talked to her. She asked for 100. 000 but we settled on 80. 000. She had an awesome slim body, pretty tall, long black shiny hair and fake boobs and she had a fun personality joking around with me before and after (I speak Korean). It was the first time I ever got in there, I have walked through a few times before. Maybe it's better to go on the afternoon with less people around if you are a foreigner.
I don't think that's how it works. From what I can tell, from places like Belle, there is a standard flat rate of 70, 000-80, 000. They expect you to know that it's not full service and some places tell you not to touch the girl under the belt.
Whether you just more than a HJ depends on the girl so your mileage may vary. Exactly right, the expectation should be for HJ. BJ is certainly on the menu, but anything else depends on the woman and the chemistry between you.
Does anyone have any experience with the little bit older slim woman who works at Mississippi on the hill? I'm usually not in to milfs but if she is worth it, I'll give it a go.
AmericanThief
12-11-10, 11:28
I noticed that they offered a one hour in-room massage from a blind woman for $40k.
Now came the problem of deciding how much to pay her as I had no reference points. I decided to give her $70k but given she was blind I wasn't sure how to count the money to her. This is a classic Korean massage. The Korean blind women's lack of sight has enlightened her sense of touch and givers her special massage powers.
A bit of advice to those who don't know about Korean currency. Korean notes come in 4 denominations of 1, 5.10, 50 M. All notes are different sizes so blind people can feel the difference.
Virginiabb
12-14-10, 10:31
Is it safe? From police?
Hello,
New to the forum, visiting Seoul briefly so don't expect me to offer much more than this report. FYI I'm Korean American.
Made a visit to myeong ga earlier this Friday evening looking for this "elevator service" that everyone talks about. First of all, I think the directions need a little tweak.
From Yeoksam station, take exit number 8. Walk east along the north side of the street until you hit Renaissance hotel. Take a left once you see a family mart convenience store on your left hand side. (the "buy the way" has become a "family mart"). Take a left on the second alley way. Walk up hill one and a half blocks. You will see Myeong ga written in Korean on right hand side. The building has iron railings on the windows.
It was early in the day. Walked in. Mama-san took my order after I paid 180k, I asked for tall and sexy and that's what I got. I am upset that I huffed it all the way to this location specifically for the elevator service and it wasn't offered during my visit. It's the worst feeling when I saw the elevator open and I see a 22 yo guy standing there. Bummer.
I forget the girls name, but she was mid 20's, face was a 7, be-cups, tattoos, tall, nice round ass with wide hips, but slip at the waist, her hair was highlighted and wavy. She had a great attitude. We sat chitchatted for a minute. We got undressed, she gave me a shower. The room had mirrors everywhere which I like about Korean anma's.
Honestly I can pay for providers in the US and they have hot Korean providers where I live, but the service is alot better here.
Laid face down, she started oiling me up and doing the mouth massage all over. Honestly I have been to a few anma's but this girl gave the best rim job I have ever had. Teased my ass a bit, came up to kiss my back, then dove straight in while offering the reach around. Absolute heaven guys. I bang alot of girls for free, but rimming is something you usually have to pay for, and I tell you its worth every penny (honestly I don't want to have to kiss my gf after her tongue has been up my ass). She had me lay on my back while rimming all the while maintaining eye contact. Onto BBBJ. 69 with her on top, more rimming from 69 position. CG, mish, doggie, back to CG for the finish. Great eye contact, moaning and a tight squeeze with her arms and her pussy as we were winding down. She tried to kiss me once but I dodged. Think of where her mouth had just been.
She got up, showered right away, came back and we cuddled and talked a bit about nonsense. She is alot of fun. I hate to tell you guys this and not remember her name, but I tell you she was effing great.
Totally relaxed attitude, no rushing, alot of fun afterward. Asked for a shower she washed me off, god dressed, and I was off. No blind massage, but after I pop one off to a sexy little thing, the last thing I want is some fat blind guy touching me all over.
I think there are better anma's with better facilities than this one (the one directly across looks great. I'm leaving Sunday so I'm going to hit that one up tomorrow. I'll try to write a report if I get a chance.)
As for foreigner friendliness, not sure, didn't ask. I will wish you guys happy hunting. If only service was this great back home.
Does anyone have any experience with the little bit older slim woman who works at Mississippi on the hill? I'm usually not in to milfs but if she is worth it, I'll give it a go.Avoid this fucking * like the plague! Unless you want to waste your money and be severely disappointed.
Case in point-my buddy owed me one, wanted to pay, she was available, I wasn't really into it, so let me sum it up:
Clock watcher, lots of "I'm tired" (after 6 minutes-I usually set my watch which she told me must have fallen on the floor and be off, which is hilarious because its a digital G-shock LOL) , lots of 'don't touch here', only use her condoms (I always bring my own because Korean condoms don't fit my cock size) , lots of 'you finish now', 'you take to long', which according to my watch was 18 minutes into it.
After 26 minutes of her complaining I had finally had enough and just got up and began to put my clothes on. She began telling me that I was too drunk, to which I replied I had not had a drink all night (true) she was just a lousy fuck.
Honestly I don't know how this lady stays in business. I guess ripping off guys is good business.
Fortunato69
12-15-10, 14:54
Thanks for your answer.
Ah yes this famous list. I also did same, but in the area I mentionned, many are down, or if by chance you find one place, there is a big chance to be blocked at the entrance. Around gangnam is more foreigner friendly. But anyway recently I found a place near hapjong station with great service from simple HJ to FS, you can choose. Also I saw several people talking about Cleopatra in sinchon. You should try IVY, its not far. Young girls are naked, massage, then HJ / real BJ / HJ. I will give more information later if some people are interested. Do you think you could provide a few suggestions for places around gangnam station?
Thanks!
Visited Cheongnyangni RLD at 2 AM. It was at full force. 97% of the shops were open and looking extremely bright. Saw a lot of new faces as well, and now there are several girls who are dressed in schoolgirl outfits.
This is my first time out to Seoul. I will be around Jongrogu. Where should I go? What should I do around that area? Or do I need to go to Itawean for any nightlife.
Looking Inrok
12-22-10, 10:30
Hey,
Could someone PM me the phone number for Belle?
Thanks!
Nightcrimson
12-25-10, 03:18
I have read a few reports (old ones) of the coffee delivery girls.
Does anyone know if they still exist and if so any contact information?
Thanks
Mar Deepack
12-25-10, 21:27
Any action now in the bar of this hotel?
I read in the past were active some escort in nightbar?
Looking Inrok
12-26-10, 00:28
I have read a few reports (old ones) of the coffee delivery girls.
Does anyone know if they still exist and if so any contact information?
ThanksIf you can read Korean, you want to look for signs or business cards with the word "Dah-bahng." It's an old word for "cafe" that has pretty much phased out and is only used in reference to coffee joints where girls serve / deliver and sometimes offer extras on top of that.
They are still around, but mostly outside of Seoul. It's rare to find any in the city, since there are so many other options with BBSs and Anma. Contact numbers? There's not a central switchboard for these places, and you're talking about a pretty big city here. I suggest you do some pavement pounding and find a few on your own.
Looking Inrok
12-26-10, 00:32
Stopped by the RLD and was just looking around. I noticed that a number of the shops were closed and / or torn down. A-Row is only a handful of windows, and B-Row is even fewer. I asked one of the girls if this is because of the LE factor, and she said yes. I asked if they were going to finish shutting down and destroying the rest of the shops, and she said it would be complete within a month.
So, in 2011, Yongsan RLD will be no more.
Nightcrimson
12-26-10, 02:48
If you can read Korean, you want to look for signs or business cards with the word "Dah-bahng." It's an old word for "cafe" that has pretty much phased out and is only used in reference to coffee joints where girls serve / deliver and sometimes offer extras on top of that.
They are still around, but mostly outside of Seoul. It's rare to find any in the city, since there are so many other options with BBSs and Anma. Contact numbers? There's not a central switchboard for these places, and you're talking about a pretty big city here. I suggest you do some pavement pounding and find a few on your own. Thanks for that. Seems like there are easier options available. As interesting as a coffee girl sounds I really am not in to putting so much effort in to it. Perhaps Starbucks should introduce this!
Stopped by the RLD and was just looking around. I noticed that a number of the shops were closed and / or torn down. A-Row is only a handful of windows, and B-Row is even fewer. I asked one of the girls if this is because of the LE factor, and she said yes. I asked if they were going to finish shutting down and destroying the rest of the shops, and she said it would be complete within a month.
So, in 2011, Yongsan RLD will be no more. Yea, I would estimate over 3/4 of the places had the front plate glass windows busted out. Without that, none of the SPs will work in this type of weather. The street looks like the result of the beef demonstrations. Went to 588 Wednesday night, was ignored by all.
Anyone here prescribe for MVIX? Looking at costs, but was quoted a high price for doctor visit + medication. Wondering where / how much you pay.
Cheers
I'm a frequent traveler to Seoul, go there almost every month and, usually, I look for a different thing every time I go.
I'm more like Frank M and the other guy who had some pictures of unknown places: I like to be adventurous and try different stuff off the beaten path. For instance, Itaweon is a no go place for me.
Always walking around Seoul St, I saw the barber poles on the avenue that goes to city center and Nandemun market, but never tried (knowing that around stations it can be bad). However, this time, I decided to take one for the team here.
If you are at Seoul St, go to the subway level and look for Exit 4. Out of Exit 4, walk straight, and you'll see one barber pole: didn't try this place, since it looked quite legit, I mean, a gym or a sauna with nothing special.
Walk few meters more, and you'll see a double barber pole, with "sports massage" in it (in Korean). The entrance is in the little street on the side. 2nd floor.
Went up, knocked on the door, and was greeted by two old ladies (ajuma) : one in her 60s, other in her mid 40s. They were very happy to see me, and started asking me to come in. Inside there was a barber chair but a curtain revealed the other side: a massage bed in a darker room.
They started discussing who would take care of me (I can understand some Korean) , and I was expecting the younger one, since she was quite interesting for a mid 40s. Being myself a mediterranean european at mid 30s, and Koreans don't age much, I was happy about it.
Discussion over, the younger one comes, with a big smile, and saying that I was very handsome.
Obs. : I'm not handsome, but I'm good looking. I take care of myself, hair cut, shave, perfume. And to all you there who complain about being shown the door when stepping into a korean venue, here is my 1 cent: dress well. If you go there in jeans and running shoes, they will probably ask you to leave. Now, I'm always wearing a suit and even a tie when I go to these places. And I was never refused anything. Think about it, boys.
Undress, keep underwear, lay on the table face up. She washes my feet and asks me to be face down. Then, starts a massage that was quite ok. If you've been to real massage places, you know when they are professional, and when they are not. This lady was not, but it was relaxing, anyway. I tell her it was very good, she laughs and kiss me on my cheek. I know something good will happen.
Finished, turn face up. She dims the light down, massage my neck and shoulders. Then, put her face closer to mine and gently kiss my lips (no DFK, just a little touch) , and say I'm handsome. I reply saying she is beautiful.
She brings some hot towels. Puts my underwear down, compliments me for my size (average, not big) , and clean it with the towel. Then, she also cleans my hands (a sign that I can use them).
Then, she starts a slow HJ, while licking my nipples and belly, with enthusiasm. She then puts her blouse up revealing her small but firm boobs, and puts my hand on them. I start touching and approach my mouth to lick them, to which she presses my head against her body, and seems to enjoy it. I start touching her butt and, to my surprise, she raises her skirt and puts her panties down, allowing me to touch, kiss and bite her soft ass.
From there, she makes me lay down again, and starts a nice BBBJ. I continue to touch her, reaching her front. I have to stop her, cause I was almost getting there. She smiles, I get closer to her lips and kiss her. She starts kisssing and licking my neck while HJing, I lay down, back to BBBJ and, when I'm almost there, she switches to HJ, very very slowly, and I can't resist. Now, I'm no Peter North, but I can unload a pretty good amount of fluid there: it goes everywhere: my belly, her arm, her shirt. She is surprised, starts laughing, and say that I'm strong. Funny.
She then leaves, cleans me when come back, and while I'm dressing up again, she brings me a vitamin (these energy drinks). All smiles to me.
She asks me to come back, maybe I will, maybe not. When I leave, the old one (who seemed younger than what she really was) tells me next time is hers. Well, why not? All for the experience.
Damage was 70k. Interesting experience.
Obs. : I'm failing to find nuru massage places in Seoul. Hotel Capital used to have it, doesn't have it anymore. Does anyone know where to find it?
Cheers,
Sauro
Looking Inrok
12-27-10, 01:56
Obs. : I'm failing to find nuru massage places in Seoul. Hotel Capital used to have it, doesn't have it anymore. Does anyone know where to find it? Most anmas incorporate some type of it, but not for the duration of your visit. It's usually a preview before you make your way to the bed.
AmericanThief
12-27-10, 03:25
I have read a few reports (old ones) of the coffee delivery girls.
Does anyone know if they still exist and if so any contact information?
ThanksThe coffee girls still exist, but its not what it used to be 10 years ago, and certainly not like the old reports on this board.
Here's an example of what you get today. I don't understand what this guy is talking about with the ticket. Even the Korean's comments don't understand what's with all the ticket ticket he keeps talking about. As you can see there's no service provided. You're paying for a girl to sit and talk with you for ten minutes and she's out.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%EB%8B%A4%EB%B0%A9&aq=f
And to all you there who complain about being shown the door when stepping into a korean venue, here is my 1 cent: dress well. If you go there in jeans and running shoes, they will probably ask you to leave. Now, I'm always wearing a suit and even a tie when I go to these places. And I was never refused anything. Think about it, boys.Perhaps a little overdress for a barber shop I'd say but I've never heard of anyone being refused entrance at any BS in Seoul especially the ones with 40 year old providers. Try gaining access to an upscale anma with a prime time provider in Seoul with this kind of ease and you sure will impress the masses.
Sunday night on the hill was REALLY quiet. Most of the bars were closed, only a few near the top of the hill were open. We walked by Capital (2-3 girls) , but for the first time in my roaming days we were told not to come in. My theory: We had passed by the bar a few minutes before, coming back down the hill, and we ran into a German guy who stumbled out of Old Towne bombed out of his tree, with two Korean coworkers. He latched on to us as we went back to the bottom of the hill, proceeded to throw a glass of rum and coke at a car when the driver honked at us, and wandered up towards Peachfuzz and tried to pull the door off its hinges (fortunately it was locked). When we went back up the hill the ladies in Capital refused to let us in. Guilty by association perhaps? Oh well.
On to the Thick Thighs, for those who like the pear-shaped, this girl would have to be the most uniquely shaped Korean woman I have ever seen. She has a slender upper body but flares out dramatically from the waist. Serious Curves! I swear at 5'2" she was a 32-28-36+, with thighs that were thicker than any legs I've ever seen on a woman. So. If you are into that look, she is available. Her name is Bin, and she works in the bar next to ABC (its Madrid, isn't it?) last night with another woman who is thick and busty too (MiSo, if you are interested.) She was saying it would be 150. Enjoy the flavour.
My latest run was uneventful, but a few weeks ago, during the daytime on a Sunday, I was lured into ABC, found one woman, fairly tall, slender body, enticing B-cup breasts that may have been artificial, but skillfully done, tatoo on her back, mid 30s. And she is completely shaved. The body was more attractive than her face, but she was nice enough to talk to, and I got a BBBJ and DATY for 80 (Sunday afternoon special) , with the promise I would return. I didn't yet, but I will, I want to see how much more mileage I can get, and I like shaved.
Enjoy boys.
Cactusthief
12-27-10, 10:44
There is a sports massage place near my place. But there is no barber pole. Is it a genuine massage place?
Anyone want to meet up for a beer?
I'm usually in the Osaka (Japan) section but am going to be in town visiting a mate of mine. Dunno what he has planned yet but I'm keen to meet up with whoever wants to grab a beer. Trade stories etc etc. PM me if you're keen. In town from Wed 29th to 1st. Hatguy
I've read these threads quite a bit and there has been a lot of good work about providers. But as a general knowledge thing, I don't see information about the market rates of the girls you get from the business cards at love motels. What's to be expected there?
AmericanThief
12-29-10, 03:51
I've read these threads quite a bit and there has been a lot of good work about providers. But as a general knowledge thing, I don't see information about the market rates of the girls you get from the business cards at love motels. What's to be expected there?Expect to be scammed.
You will be over charged 300% for a very ugly or old woman.
Gangsters also use this technique to rob guys. They send you a girl and she calls for food delivery and then goes into the bathroom when the gangsters arrive posing as delivery boys; they crash into your room, beat you down and take your cash, phone etc.
Stopped by the RLD and was just looking around. I noticed that a number of the shops were closed and / or torn down. A-Row is only a handful of windows, and B-Row is even fewer. I asked one of the girls if this is because of the LE factor, and she said yes. I asked if they were going to finish shutting down and destroying the rest of the shops, and she said it would be complete within a month.
So, in 2011, Yongsan RLD will be no more. Looks like it's taking longer than I expected. I'm kind of sad that Yongsan's RLD will be no longer, although I always had unsatisfying results there with the A-row girls. They were serious time-watchers and like robots, and they would ask me "are you done?" during the middle of the sex constantly. Actually, it's like this in Cheongnyangni as well.
Kinda tall chick. A little disappointing tits. But still it wasnt bad for 100 000. She tried to get me to pay 300 000 to start with! Special discount my arse. Wednesday night and no punters. Will see what there is tonight in the way of tits! Hatguy
Daviddawkins
12-30-10, 12:19
This was awhile back, but I always catch a glance at this place when I head up to the Hill. So I venture in.
For quick beer. The girl there was talkative and more than a few times cupped my nuts. It got me midly aroused, and I was going to see what kind of price she was looking for, but I had an engagement, so, I made my exit. She seemed lonely as hell and wanted to talk. And talk.
Has anyone done the deed with her? How much did she charge?
I have been to NO1 at the top of the Hill, and the girl there is really sweet, with a cute rear and thin tight body. The couch setup was a pain though, and just not conducive to a good time, but I didn't last long hitting it from behind. Be nice to her, she is probably the most pleasant girl I have had on the Hill.
Everytime I am up at the top I see a few places to the right. Green, some place with Japanese charaters, some pink place and a few others, but I have never ventured in and there is no mention, if any, of those places.
Anyone seen the talent there?
Everytime I am up at the top I see a few places to the right. Green, some place with Japanese charaters, some pink place and a few others, but I have never ventured in and there is no mention, if any, of those places.
Anyone seen the talent there? As far as I remember, the place with the Japanese characters is a transexual bar. I think it says "Trans bar" or something like that in English below the Japanese. I walked by there once before and there was a he-she standing outside. Keep in mind, this bar is located more towards Homo Hill than Hooker Hill.
As far as Pink and Green bars, whenever I poked my head in those places there were nothing but gross fatties. Shamrock bar, on the other hand, had a cute girl one time, and another time I found a chubby girl that wasn't terrible. Don't remember names, though.
This info is at least four months old, so feel free to venture up there one night and prove me wrong.
Daviddawkins
01-02-11, 06:54
As far as I remember, the place with the Japanese characters is a transexual bar.
As far as Pink and Green bars, whenever I poked my head in those places there were nothing but gross fatties. Shamrock bar, on the other hand, had a cute girl one time, and another time I found a chubby girl that wasn't terrible.I thought that the bar with japanese characters was a regular bar. It looks to have a lot of money spent on upkeep relative to the other places. I happened to be in the neighborhood and noticed that there is a new "trans"bar across from stompers. It used to be a straight bar. What is happening to the Hill? Is it being taken over?
Shamrock? The names of these places change all the time. But mind you I don't mind the chubbies once in awhile, so It isn't too bad.
I am still quite curious about the girl at "Pretty Ketty". Up the hill from sultan kabob. No one has been there?
On to the Thick Thighs, for those who like the pear-shaped, this girl would have to be the most uniquely shaped Korean woman I have ever seen. She has a slender upper body but flares out dramatically from the waist. Serious Curves! I swear at 5'2" she was a 32-28-36+, with thighs that were thicker than any legs I've ever seen on a woman. So. If you are into that look, she is available. Her name is Bin, and she works in the bar next to ABC (its Madrid, isn't it?) last night with another woman who is thick and busty too (MiSo, if you are interested.) She was saying it would be 150. Enjoy the flavour.Bin's put on weight? *sigh* She always had that fabulous ass, but now she's packing it on lower down, too? Disappointing. Tiny girl with junk in the trunk, great. Short little weeble, not so much.
And don't bother with the other one. Barracuda. The two scammed me for a threeway last time I was with Bin. I'd already been with Bin for a while at that point, she was getting tired, and we negotiated bringing in her friend as a substitute hitter. She shows up, took my money, rubbed my ass a little while I continued a bit with Bin, then buggered off never to come back. Not impressed.
Hairy Wonder
01-08-11, 17:58
....I happened to be in the neighborhood and noticed that there is a new "trans"bar across from stompers. It used to be a straight bar. What is happening to the Hill? Is it being taken over?I was a soldier stationed in Korea in 1991. The Stars and Stripes newspaper ran an article about one of the Itaewon bars that was busted for having all trannies posing as female entertainment. One of the guys in my unit claimed to have taken many of them when he saw the photo. Funny how he retracted his statement when we showed him the article associated with it. . It is sad to see that this kind of BS and the high prices have replaced the great mongering of the past in Korea. I have seen it posted many times before, and I have to agree that it is better to save your money for a trip to the Philippines or Thailand. Yes, they have trannies also, but at least the price of mongering is reasonable.
HW
It is sad to see that this kind of BS and the high prices have replaced the great mongering of the past in Korea.Yeah, no shit. Ever check out the estworld141 website? They have the nerve to charge $450 for 90 minutes. Plus, most of the photos are stolen from other sites, and the first 30 testimonials or so were obviously written by the site owners (EDIT: I take that back; I looked a bit closer and the vast majority of reviews are written by the non-native English speaking site owners). Who can trust a service to lie so much then charge such a premium? Christ, $450's enough to pay for my plane ticket to Thailand.
it is better to save your money for a trip to the Philippines or Thailand. Yes, they have trannies also, but at least the price of mongering is reasonable.And as long as you don't go home with a SW, they are usually pretty upfront about being ladyboys, and (usually) don't try to take advantage of the naive. The SWs, though, are a whole other breed, preying on drunk guys who can't tell the difference.
Just got back from LOS and it was great. Didn't stick around the usual mongering sites because it wasn't that kind of holiday, but I did indulge on my one night in BKK. Cheap, quality, no nonsense, no special price for the farang. Seoul and Beijing are miles away from such service.
Hey all,
I found this place after doing a search for Bugsby. Recently went there with my Korean friend and was looking for info, but doesn't seem to be much. Been to a few other room salons near Gangnam / Yeoksam.
I've mostly been going to clubs, booking and regular. But those are more serious "relationships", and just looking for something fun.
My internship just ended so I'm free for the next few weeks, living in Gangnam, with cash but no place to spend it. Any one want to meet up?
There is a sports massage place near my place. But there is no barber pole. Is it a genuine massage place?Can you provide more info on the location? It can (or cannot) be legit.
Playboy2001
01-20-11, 06:20
Could some one please provide name of the place within 15/30 minutes from ICN airport for a quick action.
Thanks in advance
It's true, I also have a Korean friend who spent 3 months in jail after being jumped by a guy in Hongdae because he was talking to his girlfriend. My friend broke the guy's arm when he wrestled him down. So the rule is 1. Never get in to fights in Korea 2. If someone wants to fight you, try to get away from there asap.I appreciate the advice, but foreigners are becoming quite panzi here. Korean guys are mostly bark. If they give you trouble, just play with them, use sarcasm. They'll know you are screwing with them, but their culture doesn't really include vague mocking-facades. If one must fight just push him and hold him down until he submits. Time to end the wimpiness.
Not to deviate from the P4P scene here, and digress back to local pick up, with negating the Korean male cock-block, but some practical advice would be appreciated. Recently, my local pickups have led to a steady rotation of GFE experiences, with minimal cash being dropped. One can argue the merits and demerits of each, however, I have been growing tired of limited GFE encounters with SP's and enjoy new variety. Moreover, although it is nice not to have to wear protection, even locals have their potential risks. Either way I am going to enjoy my current successes, before eventually returning back to regular P4P action. That being said, I would appreciate some advice on how to counteract the Korean male clock-block in public situations (from preferably Expats in Korea who truly understand the culture).
Example A:
Express Bus outside of Seoul (2 hour non-stop route). Young, cute 22 year University student wearing hot shorts sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. She glances over occasionally, curious about the foreigner. Young Korean male gets on bus, although bus virtually empty, he sits in front of girl. He proceeds to blast his music via his MP3 loudspeaker, and talk loudly on the phone. I wait until he sleeps, and lean over to ask the girl to show me where we are located on my navigation map on iPhone. She moves over to sit beside me and we play 'challenge' games on my phone, and watch Korean videos on youtube. We exchange numbers, just as Korean male wakes up and stares up down, causing her to feel uncomfortable, and move back to her seat. He proceeds to call his friends and trash talk how the foreigner tried to pick up Korean girls on the bus. She feels more uncomfortable ('losing face') , and won't return back to seat beside me. We get off the bus, and I say goodbye to her with her telling me to call her later. The Korean male is observing the whole time, and follows her in the shopping mall, as I go catch a taxi. I double-back and watch him open a door for her, and start talking to her, just envisioning what cock-block statements pour out (e. G. Watch out for foreigners, he's a player, etc. Etc.). She doesn't respond to my texts (except Holiday greeting sent).
Example B:
Express Bus 2 hours outside of Seoul (different location). Sexy, young office worker wearing short skirt, and little too much makeup sits diagonally adjacent to me at back of bus. 1 minute left before empty bus leaves, older Korean fisherman gets on and sits directly across from her, and behind me. I politely ask him to move so I can lean back, but he refuses (obviously wants to check out her nice rack while simultaneously blocking me). I re-position myself in another seat. She looks really bored and keeps looking over at me, smiling and playing with her phone. Fisherman starts nodding off, but wakes up every-time I attempt to make moves (e. G. Take picture out window beside her of ocean view) , staring me down. Eventually, I move to the back row of the bus, sprawl out and try to take a nap (having my stinky feet literally inches away from his head) , with direct vision of her in front me. She accidentally drops something, so I ask if she is ok (in Korean). I proceed to give her a snack from my bag, to which stares ensue from fisherman, so I give him one too (which completely confuses him as he throws it on to the seat beside him not uttering a word). Later, I ask her if she enjoyed the snack, to which she smiles and offers me candies. Again, fisherman shoots look of death at us, so she offers one to him too. I start playing 'cute' games on my iPhone, she becomes interested, so I lean forward and I show her how to play. Fisherman hate stares resume, and she starts to feel uncomfortable. At this point, I should have told her to come sit behind with me, but fisherman would just turn around and continue his blocking. When we got off the bus, she said goodbye and smiled, and my sense was she wanted me to walk off with her. Lo and behold, fisherman immediately got up behind her, and escorted her to the bathroom. He even waited outside the bathroom to ensure that I wouldn't wait for her to finish! (Keep in mind: He had NO idea who she was).
Now the rationale behind posting this exchange (rather than the typical steamy play by play on here) is I would value advice on how to deflect the cock-block without directly confronting the Korean male (cultural taboo) and making the target 'lose face'. In bar, club, or even subway situations, I have this handled (move to another location) , but can't figure out to counteract this one. What I would do in Korea was to play along, like a lampoon from Airport the movie. The Koreans don't have this kind of humor, but it can be followed if done silly. This will put the racist in his tracks and elevates you with the woman because you didn't go for the bait (anger). Incidentally, I may just have a canned line to anger him and move on, depending on the situation. Some Korean women have these men around so they can just enjoy the music or tend to their man-herd (something I'm not accosumted to in Asia). The woman can tease without worrying about male attention and the man can harass foreigners.
P. S. Jackson should be aware that there are professional Korean racist groups that infiltrate these kind of sites (think English Spectrum). They report them to the Korean authorities and have been known to glean information from such sites and make Nazi-esque documentaries, or failing that, commit cyber attacks, I kid you not.
In their annual sweep to "clean up the streets", LEO is targeting the Kiss Rooms this time.
http://asiancorrespondent.com/46581/kiss-rooms-raided/
If one must fight just push him and hold him down until he submits. Time to end the wimpiness.Nope. That just gives his friends time to keep you there till the police arrive (assuming they don't jump you while you're "submitting" their friend; Koreans are like Thais. They LOVE their 5-on-1 beatdowns) and him the opportunity to claim you injured his arm (his doctor will confirm it) , and you will be out of pocket for several million in blood money, which you'll pay or go to jail.
If you MUST fight (can't avoid it for whatever reason) , fight dirty and high tail it immediately. Kick to the balls, suckerpunch to break the nose, then leg it. Course, if they know who you are or where you work / live, this is bad idea because then you're back to paying blood money once the police track you down.
It's got nothing to do with being "panzi" (sic) or wimpiness. When it comes to fights, Korean police always come down on the side of the Korean. The foreigner always loses. To whit: (1) A former co-worker walking down the street with his fiancee got jumped by 6 guys in Hongdae who didn't like that a "pervert foreigner" was holding hands with a "pure Korean woman". The 6 attackers were allowed to leave immediately, my co-worker was arrested and spent the night in jail. (2) A former colleague had his head bashed in with a pipe (a premeditated and unprovoked act) , got staples in his head, nearly died, the whole bit. The police let the attacker go and kept my friend-still bleeding profusely-in the police station for 6 hours to answer questions while they debated whether or not to book him. THEN they took him to the hospital.
Hairy Wonder
01-21-11, 05:31
Coitus68 is absolutely right. In any kind of legal incident in Korea, the foreigner is automatically "at fault." I had a coworker that had his home broken into. He caught the guy and forcibly held him until the police arrived. When they came in, he said they instructed his wife to serve coffee to them and the crook, while questioning him about his methods to keep the crook around for them. He was warned that he could spend time in jail if the guy wanted to press charges for assault.
As badly as the Koreans treat all foreigners, I think we would all be smart to move out and let North Korea overrun these conceited bastards in the south.
IMHO
Nope. That just gives his friends time to keep you there till the police arrive (assuming they don't jump you while you're "submitting" their friend; Koreans are like Thais. They LOVE their 5-on-1 beatdowns) and him the opportunity to claim you injured his arm (his doctor will confirm it) , and you will be out of pocket for several million in blood money, which you'll pay or go to jail.
If you MUST fight (can't avoid it for whatever reason) , fight dirty and high tail it immediately. Kick to the balls, suckerpunch to break the nose, then leg it. Course, if they know who you are or where you work / live, this is bad idea because then you're back to paying blood money once the police track you down.
It's got nothing to do with being "panzi" (sic) or wimpiness. When it comes to fights, Korean police always come down on the side of the Korean. The foreigner always loses. To whit: (1) A former co-worker walking down the street with his fiancee got jumped by 6 guys in Hongdae who didn't like that a "pervert foreigner" was holding hands with a "pure Korean woman". The 6 attackers were allowed to leave immediately, my co-worker was arrested and spent the night in jail. (2) A former colleague had his head bashed in with a pipe (a premeditated and unprovoked act) , got staples in his head, nearly died, the whole bit. The police let the attacker go and kept my friend-still bleeding profusely-in the police station for 6 hours to answer questions while they debated whether or not to book him. THEN they took him to the hospital. Point taken. In Japan, the foreigner often loses too, but the police won't fight frustrated men's battles. I've known foreigners really act rudely and not be arrested. It was seen as clowny fun as an adolescent and he was let go, no booking. I just can't get over the idea that foreigners in Korea are seen as wimps that won't fight back. The Koreans are bigger than Japanese now (though still smaller than us) , have been told we did nothing to protect or develop their economy.
Point taken. In Japan, the foreigner often loses too, but the police won't fight frustrated men's battles.Japanese police are a whole other animal from the Korean Keystone Kops. When I lived in Japan, the last thing I wanted to happen was be arrested and hauled in to a Japanese police station. You don't raise your voice with them or give them any reason whatsoever to arrest you, or you'll find yourself in jail cell being held anywhere from 30-60 days without being allowed to contact counsel or embassy.
OTOH, I've seen people spit on, slap, kick, and hit Korean cops, and the cops DID NOTHING, just got in their car and drove off, allowing them to continue doing what they were doing to have the cop stop them in the first place. They're an impotent joke (except when they wish to screw the foreigner).
I'll be Seoul on business for a few in weeks in February and have never been there. When possible usually go to Philippines or HK.
Not familiar with parts of city yet and have been trying to read the reviews here but not getting where som of the best places are to go for a full service massage.
If you can help and give me some names, locations and prices to a non-korean speaking newbie her I would appreciate it.
Thanks
Japanese police are a whole other animal from the Korean Keystone Kops. When I lived in Japan, the last thing I wanted to happen was be arrested and hauled in to a Japanese police station. You don't raise your voice with them or give them any reason whatsoever to arrest you, or you'll find yourself in jail cell being held anywhere from 30-60 days without being allowed to contact counsel or embassy.
OTOH, I've seen people spit on, slap, kick, and hit Korean cops, and the cops DID NOTHING, just got in their car and drove off, allowing them to continue doing what they were doing to have the cop stop them in the first place. They're an impotent joke (except when they wish to screw the foreigner). I can't comment on the Jap police having never been there, but I can tell you with the utmost assurance as I know several CID guys that all is video recorded if it happens on the street.
Most don't know that virtually on every street light is a video camera and the police are recording. If you are truly the victim, then the US Embassy will back you vs. The Korean police. You have to be squeaky clean though, I. E. Not coming out of a *house and getting into a fight. That is advice straight from the US police here (yes they are here).
OTOH, I am tired of all the cock blocking bullshit from these K guys. I mean Jesus, are these guys really that insecure? For some reason, the K guys have taken the cock block to a whole new level. My buddy doesn't seem to mind though, he just ignores them and keeps up his game with the chick and eventually she gives up the digits. Then they hook up for later without the blocker (s) around. I have personally watched this 4-5 times, and he scored with every chick. Although he told me one was a complete dud.
I guess my advice would be to act like they are not there and continue with the game plan. One K guy shouted to me in a bar,"I am Police! This is my girlfriend!" To which the girl replied that she didn't know the guy. Still, he grabbed her arm and led her away forcibly from me at the bar. At that point it was 3am and I was like,"WTF". I could of cared less, but still it pissed me off later when I was thinking about it. So when I saw him outside the bar after closing time, he approached me and I asked him if he felt like Superman. He responded with suprise, and I told him he was going flying down the subway stairs. His response? He ran off like a scared little girl. Guys, man up and don't fall the K guys bullshit. Not inciting violence here, just stand up for yourself.
After a horrible hill visit (see MILF) and some disappointing K girl freebies, I am back to fucking American girls. A little bit bigger, but the pussy is still good. Just not great.
If you are truly the victim, then the US Embassy will back you vs. The Korean police.No they won't. They will provide you a lawyer, who will make sure your rights are not being trampled, but the embassy won't "back you". They will not interfere in the laws and enforcement of those laws of another sovereign country.
I went to see Cherry in Happy Days on the hill tonight. I can highly recommend her to anyone, especially if you like big tits, she has a great pair. I think she is a great fuck too, and really nice.
I was also tempted by a blond girl at the bar called Moon Shine. Has anyone been with her? I think she will be my next target, but would be fun to hear if someone has any experience with her.
JeanEspero
01-29-11, 03:48
There are too many opportunities for everyone here. Why do people have so much energy to waste being jealous and cockblocking. Don't worry about the cockblocking and just be creative about this. Don't give up so easily and think of a new and interesting approach to girls. There is no one perfect answer as far as approach and if you make a reasonable effort then at least they will have coffee or dinner with you. Just care about her and listen carefully. Sometimes the "English teacher wild card" approach always works because they are trying to get a job throught their high TOEIC tests. Go read Cosmopolitan magazine or Korean fashion magazines and just try to know what their interests are. This is much easier than in the states. Just get their curiosity and your curiosity. Love and sex is all about curiosity.
This is my 2 cents.
Fatboy 1980
01-29-11, 06:09
Had a good session with Kelly in Best bar up on the Hill. Early 30's (which I really like) , nice little A-cups and a cute face. She deep throats like a champ and she squirts when she cums. Lovely wet pussy and she let me CIM to finish. Getting horny just thinking about it!
Vincelee76
02-02-11, 07:35
I can't comment on the Jap police having never been there, but I can tell you with the utmost assurance as I know several CID guys that all is video recorded if it happens on the street.
Most don't know that virtually on every street light is a video camera and the police are recording. If you are truly the victim, then the US Embassy will back you vs. The Korean police. You have to be squeaky clean though, I. E. Not coming out of a *house and getting into a fight. That is advice straight from the US police here (yes they are here).
OTOH, I am tired of all the cock blocking bullshit from these K guys. I mean Jesus, are these guys really that insecure? For some reason, the K guys have taken the cock block to a whole new level. My buddy doesn't seem to mind though, he just ignores them and keeps up his game with the chick and eventually she gives up the digits. Then they hook up for later without the blocker (s) around. I have personally watched this 4-5 times, and he scored with every chick. Although he told me one was a complete dud.
I guess my advice would be to act like they are not there and continue with the game plan. One K guy shouted to me in a bar,"I am Police! This is my girlfriend!" To which the girl replied that she didn't know the guy. Still, he grabbed her arm and led her away forcibly from me at the bar. At that point it was 3am and I was like,"WTF". I could of cared less, but still it pissed me off later when I was thinking about it. So when I saw him outside the bar after closing time, he approached me and I asked him if he felt like Superman. He responded with suprise, and I told him he was going flying down the subway stairs. His response? He ran off like a scared little girl. Guys, man up and don't fall the K guys bullshit. Not inciting violence here, just stand up for yourself.
After a horrible hill visit (see MILF) and some disappointing K girl freebies, I am back to fucking American girls. A little bit bigger, but the pussy is still good. Just not great.Hello,
I have never been to korea. But, it sounds like a crazy place. What is cockblock? If I can ask you. What are korean guys doing to foreigners? Can I guess, do you mean, when you try to talk to a korean girl, the other korean guys who don't know this girl, don't want you a foreigner to talk to korean women? Is that what you mean?
If this is the case, then yell back at these korean guys, who are being the ass hole. You should be even more determined to talk to korean women. Never let them get the upper hand.
I have traveled all over asia, japan, taiwan, Thailand, China, phillippines for mongering. I am Taiwanese my self. I have never heard of anyone trying to block another guy from talking to a woman. Of course, I have never been to korea. Maybe I don't want to give korea my business now.
Of course, in my humble opinion, you should not start a fist fight in a foreign country. But, don't back down, or let them yell at you, you yell back. And You out stair them. You go talk to any women you like. Don't let these weirdos mess with you.
Good luck
Just thought I should write a report on when I visited the Cheongnyangni RLD early last month. I've visited Cheongnyangni several times in the past and all of them were pretty disappointing visits because the girls are seriously like robots. Anyway there was a huge selection of new faces. I found this one really young-looking girl who was incredibly cute. Normally I go for girls with hot bodies specifically big natural tits (if you read my past reports, you will know I'm a boobs man). But I decided to let this one slide because her face was really cute and I couldn't resist it.
So I walk in and she welcomes me. As usual I gave her 70, 000won as we sat on her bed and chatted a bit. She asked me if I wanted a shower which was the first time I've experienced this in my RLD trips. In all my RLD visits, the girls will usually wipe my groin area with wet tissue or bring in a bucket of water / soap and wash my dick.
I already showered before I came so I declined. After we got naked, she literally threw me down to her bed and it was the usual session: licking my nipples, blowjob without condom (usually in Cheongnyangni it's BJ with condom) , and then she got on top of me and rode me. Her pussy was awfully tight and it was actually hurting my johnson. She tried to kiss me as well which was odd for me since it normally never happens. She was sweating all over her back and I figured she was getting tried, so we switched to doggy for awhile and then I finished her missionary although it seriously took me awhile to cum (she didn't seem to be in a rush though).
In my previous RLD experiences, after our session the girl will usually clean my dick with wet tissue or with a bucket of water / soap. But none of those were around so she told me to go in the shower room and wash myself. We chatted and laughed afterwards. She told me she's been working at the RLD for one year, but that's got to be untrue since I've never seen her face before in the past. After my time was up she actually walked me to the exit which was a shocker. Usually, the girls will leave the room and go back to sitting on the chair to wait for more customers when you're getting dressed up. Surprising. In conclusion, as much as she is really cute and her manners were very pleasing and kind, the sex wasn't anything special and I actually had to try to force myself to cum as odd as it might sound.
Gen X, my buddies and are in Seoul (staying in Mapo Gu) for a few days. We are 30 yrs old and went to hongdae last night. It was shitty. Lot of hot girls but they were too young for us. We got snobbed so many times. I am familiar with some of the clubbing scenes, but please can we link up. We want to check out some action.
ThanksYour age shouldn't be a no-gamer. My guys were mid-20s and also had trouble, even with decent Korean ability. The girls on the street are just harder, younger and less English knowledgeable. Try some of the clubs. Stay clear of the hip hop clubs (unless your black, in which case the locals will make, somewhat, of an exception).
P. S. I came to Korea this summer, so I don't know how the old days were. Do people think picking up was better in the past? If so, how long ago, how so, and how did it end? In Japan, I've noticed days were better seven years ago. I think it had to do with fads though.
DeepThroat
02-05-11, 10:42
Relatively tall for a Korean; black hair (what else?) and, these days, a little pleasingly plump; attractive face w/ large eyes but no kewpie doll or great beauty.What time of day / night are you seeing this girl? It isn't Janie, is it? If she's back, I'll definitely stop by for a visit. If it's Janie, she worked at Cheers, and briefly at Ing bar. She's missed.
DeepThroat
02-05-11, 10:44
Well I was browsing through the search again and I happened to find a report on a girl at itaewon by the name of Jina/Gina who also has natural D cup breasts. I was wondering if she's still at the hill? The last report on her was around February, and I believe she's been working there for a real long time as reports of her date back since 2003.There is a Gina / Jina that works at V. I. P. (formerly ROYAL) in the evenings after 9pm or so until sun-up. That's one of the names she goes by, I think.
DeepThroat
02-05-11, 11:47
I was also tempted by a blond girl at the bar called Moon Shine. Has anyone been with her? I think she will be my next target, but would be fun to hear if someone has any experience with her.That be Nadya. She's great for the money, but best to catch her on the day out of the month when she decides to take a shower. Far too much ink these days. Kind heart. Learned her English from rap music, I'd say. That was my impression after just a few visits. FS for under 100, 000. Hate her blond look. She was so much hotter before the copious amounts of ink, face surgery, and bleach-blond hair.
Your age shouldn't be a no-gamer. My guys were mid-20s and also had trouble, even with decent Korean ability. The girls on the street are just harder, younger and less English knowledgeable. Try some of the clubs. Stay clear of the hip hop clubs (unless your black, in which case the locals will make, somewhat, of an exception).If you're going to pick up girls on the street, then you seriously have to be extremely good-looking, tall, and know how to talk. I have several Korean guy friends who absolutely look like popstars / idols that you see on Korean TV, and whenever we head to party at places like Hongdae or Kangnam, they can just walk up to any Korean girl and right away the girls will get interested. I'm serious. I was blown away how many girls they had sex with whenever we went out and they would always show me photos of the girls from their cellphones.
If you want to pick up chicks, then avoid Kangnam because the competition there is no joke. As much as the girls there are like fucking goddesses, it's very difficult to get with them even for Korean guys unless you're rich. This is why my Korean friends aim for Hongdae more than Kangnam because the success rate is better there.
If I have to give advice to foreigners, it will be to improve your Korean. Of course there are many people in Korea who can speak English, but I think the chances are very random. From my experience and my Korean friends, many of the Korean girls that we have met in clubs speak from little to decent English. It's a no-brainer that your chances to get with a Korean girl is higher and less difficult if you know how to speak Korean.
On top of that you also have to be good-looking. It's a fact that Korea is a superficial country.
I don't know how the old days were. Do people think picking up was better in the past? If so, how long ago, how so, and how did it end? In Japan, I've noticed days were better seven years ago.WAY easier in the past. The girls were way less superficial; no need back then to be tall, hot, AND rich (not in that order). The mid and late 90's were awesome. That all pretty much came to an end in '02 with the anti-American protests and the anti-English Spectrum "roving bands" of Koreans out to pummel foreigners with "their" women.
Hairy Wonder
02-05-11, 19:44
Your age shouldn't be a no-gamer. My guys were mid-20s and also had trouble, even with decent Korean ability. The girls on the street are just harder, younger and less English knowledgeable. Try some of the clubs. Stay clear of the hip hop clubs (unless your black, in which case the locals will make, somewhat, of an exception).
P. S. I came to Korea this summer, so I don't know how the old days were. Do people think picking up was better in the past? If so, how long ago, how so, and how did it end? In Japan, I've noticed days were better seven years ago. I think it had to do with fads though. My first time in Korea was in 1987. Even then, it was difficult to meet women just walking down the street. Mostly, that is part of their culture. Many people think the Koreans are being snobbish or rude when they don't give greetings or say "excuse me." But it is not part of their cultural upbringing to do that. In fact, they think it is rude, or at the very least, odd for a unknown person to even say "Hello," as they pass by. Most of them will be shocked by an unknown foreigner trying to speak to them on the street.
During my last stay in Korea (2004-2010) , I took up walking through the small town I lived in. I got bored with just walking past everyone along my route, and started saying the Korean word for Hello,"Anyonghaseyo" (not sure on the spelling, but you get the idea) to the cute women I would pass by. Almost every one of them just stared in shock / disbelief at this big white man talking to them even though he had never met them. It was funny to see their expressions! I walked the same route everyday, and after a while noticed the same girls were out at the time I was walking. I also greet those selling things on the street, or in the shops (most of the time only nodding to greet them, but sometimes poking my head in the door to verbally greet them). With this repeated greeting, most of the women became comfortable with it, and began replying in kind. Some of the women even began to get friendly. I was invited to join some for coffee, or other drinks at times. One even came out of her shop, and chased me down to invite me to stop in sometime and enjoy some "fun" with her and her friends. At the time, I was married to a Korean, so I could not follow up on the invite without causing a storm of gossip.
If you have the time, and are persistent, I believe you can find Korean women outside of the clubs and RLD. Of course, knowing how to speak the language is a large plus in this effort. Speaking Korean can also be beneficial in the business clubs and booking clubs.
HW
Jack Rabbit
02-06-11, 02:17
Hello,
I have traveled all over asia, japan, taiwan, Thailand, China, phillippines for mongering. I am Taiwanese my self. I have never heard of anyone trying to block another guy from talking to a woman.
Good luckThat is because this phenomenon is predominant in Korea. I have never been cock blocked by Asian men outside of Korea. In fact, usually the opposite. Interesting that this topic has resurfaced. I have noticed how progressively worse it has become in Korea. Just a matter of time before something blows up. I have decided to bulk up to be more intimidating (although K broads usually prefer less beefy guys) , and have found if you travel with large group of guys (especially my African American friends who most Korean guys are scared of) I get less resistance. Attitude is key with the younger guys, and I tend to stare them down. Just waiting for my temper to snap and start busting heads (not smart move though). The older guys are the harder ones to deal with.
On a brighter note, had amazing P4P on the hill before going clubbing (scored digits from 2 best looking hotties from both clubs to boot). Double tag team with 18 and 20 yr old SP newbies. Incredible service, had to fight hard not to blow early. Still horny thinking about it. Glad some ne talent is on the block. About fucking time.
DeepThroat
02-06-11, 04:17
3 or 4 new (and young) ladies at ABC club on the hill in Itaewon. They work at various times, usually evenings after 9pm. The older lot are in during the day, mostly. If you like slightly plump girls that are pretty, there's one about 22 that's quite attractive, IMHO. Asked for a HJ and got a BJ to boot. Paid 40, 000. YMMV because she is new and not greedy yet. A couple of thinner girls who are a 6 or 7, and a return lady who used to work ABC, Mississippi, and another club across the street a few years ago. She's got a rockin' body, is mid 20's, but an attitude.
The Janie I thought of is indeed working at Uncle Jack's in Fish Alley. If you're into FJ's, she's got the softest skin you'll ever find.
DeepThroat
02-06-11, 04:21
Oh, forgot to mention the girl back at ABC with the rockin' body and attitude is named Hannah (or Anna).
Vincelee76
02-06-11, 08:27
WAY easier in the past. The girls were way less superficial; no need back then to be tall, hot, AND rich (not in that order). The mid and late 90's were awesome. That all pretty much came to an end in '02 with the anti-American protests and the anti-English Spectrum "roving bands" of Koreans out to pummel foreigners with "their" women.If the koreans are going to pummel foreigners, and have anti american protest. I don't see why the US needs to there to protect korea. And this cock blocking foreingers too. I don't see why the US has to spend millions and put our troops there to protect them. They should be happy we are bringing money to their women. We should be at countries that appricate us. Taiwan, phillippines, Thailand, japan. These countries deserve more attention.
This is just my humble opinion.
If the koreans are going to pummel foreigners, and have anti american protest. I don't see why the US needs to there to protect korea. And this cock blocking foreingers too. I don't see why the US has to spend millions and put our troops there to protect them. They should be happy we are bringing money to their women. We should be at countries that appricate us. Taiwan, phillippines, Thailand, japan. These countries deserve more attention.
This is just my humble opinion.This is a whole other story but it would probably be a lot better for the rest of us foreigners if there weren't any US soldiers in Korea to worsen the Koreans views of foreigners. I'm not saying all of them are asses but as a group they are loud, rude, disrespectful to Korean culture and down right obnoxious. Anytime I see guys acting disrespectful to the ladies on the hill as well, you can be damn sure they are Americans.
Kimchi Warrior
02-07-11, 06:39
What time of day / night are you seeing this girl? It isn't Janie, is it? If she's back, I'll definitely stop by for a visit. If it's Janie, she worked at Cheers, and briefly at Ing bar. She's missed.Jack's always had irregular opening days / hours, and I haven't been there in months, so I've no idea. Anyway, not the same name; probably a different girl; years ago she worked at Indian Joe's.
Jack Rabbit
02-07-11, 14:36
Oh, forgot to mention the girl back at ABC with the rockin' body and attitude is named Hannah (or Anna).Be careful with names and specifics newbie. These SP's read this forum because of some loser who revealed this site to them. I'm all for sharing intel, but don't want another fiasco again.
Kimchi Warrior
02-08-11, 01:27
Be careful with names and specifics newbie. These SP's read this forum because of some loser who revealed this site to them. I'm all for sharing intel, but don't want another fiasco again.Roger that. Given the quotient of gameless wankers who apparently frequent this forum, details are best left for private messaging. And then only to obviously qualified and discreet punters. Although how anyone just starting out makes their bones from here on out then remains to be seen.
DeepThroat
02-09-11, 02:16
Someone will have to fill me in via PM as to what the "fiasco" was, and when it happened? I've been in Korea for 4 years now, and it's the first I've heard of it after frequenting the hill for drinkie for some time.
Kimchi Warrior
02-09-11, 04:44
Someone will have to fill me in via PM as to what the "fiasco" was, and when it happened? I've been in Korea for 4 years now, and it's the first I've heard of it after frequenting the hill for drinkie for some time.See various comments in early to mid October (current pages 13-11) , begun by me Oct 9 and esp the exchange with "Lunch Meat", who apparently is one of the wankers in question
DeepThroat
02-09-11, 14:35
Anyone seen what happened to Nana from Moulin Rouge? The place has apparently changed to another business (happened in the early Winter) , but I haven't seen her since Fall. PM if you'd rather keep things on the down-low.
Thanks
Asian Butters
02-10-11, 01:23
I'm a gyopo american and I'm thinking about heading to the hill for the first time today. Just wondering what to expect, like how much a beer is, if I would need to buy any ladydrinks and what the going rate is these days. I've read a little about it and the service seems alot better on the hill than it is in the RLD. Is that the case?
Thanks
DeepThroat
02-10-11, 09:38
Beers on the hill are in the 5, 000 range. If you just drink up at Polly's, you can get a soju kettle (soju mixed with your choice of fruit punch, cider, cola, whatever) for somewhere around 7, 000 to 9, 000. That's a liter of drink, and lasts a while, if you don't mind sweet drinks. Lady drinks in the girly bars will run you 20, 000, and she'll talk to you for anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes, then ask you to buy more.
What I don't understand (and get a kick out of) are the guys who March up that hill acting like they're players, dropping 20, 000 on lady drinks every time they are asked. Pretty soon they've spent 200, 000 and haven't even had other fun. That's when the girls know they've got a sucker, and will try to squeeze top-dollar out of the guy for other services. Good for the ladies. Bad for the dudes.
Truth is, if you're not too old, look nice, and are kind, you can get laid on the hill for under 100, 000 to 150, 000 max in several bars without buying drinks. It'll be quick, though.
Pretty funny story that happened to CeCe years ago (she's long, long gone. Married a Korean doctor) when I was on my first stint in Korea. A guy used his credit card and dumped over a million on it in one night, then he canceled the card the next day, claiming it was stolen. I don't know what ever came out of that one, but obviously he regretted what had happened. I walked in to hear her arguing with the credit card company about it. From the way it sounded, the guy was going to get away with it.
I don't know what you're going for, but I'd suggest starting-out by heading up to Polly's or Stompers for a few drinks on your own (regular bars) , and keep an eye-out to see what ladies capture your attention. IMHO, the sexiest finds will be the gal in Tiger Club with fake boobs, the cute little spunky half Korean / Japanese woman a bar or two up from that (not the one that looks like Michael Jackson) , or the younger ladies in ABC club that are new and naive. Oh, and First club at the top of the hill, across from Stompers, has an extremely kind / funny / sexy gal that I think everyone should buy a drink for regardless. If you click with her, the service will be fabulous. If you like gals in their upper 30's who still look great and can remove the chrome from a trailer hitch quite nicely, try VIP. Their friend in the bar one before Tiger is nice as well. She's got a great laugh.
Ones to avoid (and I know others will differ on this) are the gal perpendicular to the hill street working in Peachfuzz (I beg to differ about her BJ being anything thrilling). Also avoid elephant legs in Ambrosia, who gives a BJ to anyone from any country for next to nothing. Oh, and note that there are transgenders in a few of the bars. My memory is a bit fuzzy at the moment, but I believe one of them works in Capital (brunette) , and another the turquoise blue / white club next to it. That club used to be named Rocky Top, but I forget what the name is now. That transgender was actually born with both sets of organs, and had the male ones removed (or so I've heard).
Oh, and if Cheers is open, drop by to see who is working. There can be some very young / cute college girls with ambitions. Be careful, though. One of the hottest, and most talkative taller girls is a massive tease.
JeanEspero
02-10-11, 17:22
How does the AbC club or other clubs in Itaewon work? Do you have to buy them many drinks then they warm uP? Do they invite you there? I date many K-girls for lunch / dinner or fun and drop by RLDs but the ABC club looks interesting.
Ones to avoid (and I know others will differ on this) are the gal perpendicular to the hill street working in Peachfuzz (I beg to differ about her BJ being anything thrilling)I think you are the only one to ever go on record with anything bad to say about her. Maybe you caught her on an off-night? At the end of a long-night? Other?
That transgender was actually born with both sets of organs, and had the male ones removed (or so I've heard).Then she's not a transgender. I would doubt the story anyway, since TRUE hermaphroditism is rare on the order of near zero.
DeepThroat
02-10-11, 23:19
I think you are the only one to ever go on record with anything bad to say about her. Maybe you caught her on an off-night? At the end of a long-night? Other?
Then she's not a transgender. I would doubt the story anyway, since TRUE hermaphroditism is rare on the order of near zero.1. The peachfuzz chick left me feeling. Meh. Maybe it's difficult for her to live up to the expectations set by the previous owner, whom I really liked? I read the posts on here and seriously wondered what all of the fuss was about? Everybody has their style, I guess. She failed to impress me twice, and my money will go elsewhere from now on.
2. Then you doubt the hermaphrodite. She's the one who told me. Now please don't ask me to believe everything a hooker in Itaewon says.
DeepThroat
02-11-11, 00:04
How does the AbC club or other clubs in Itaewon work? Do you have to buy them many drinks then they warm uP? Do they invite you there? I date many K-girls for lunch / dinner or fun and drop by RLDs but the ABC club looks interesting.Yes, and no. They often call to, or try to pull foreigners in the bar as they walk by. If you're a gyopo, you'll have to open the door and speak English. They generally dislike ajosshi, and will shut the door on a drunk Korean guy. A gyopo who smiles, shows good manners, and offers to buy a drink for someone right away would have decent luck.
I can't speak for gyopos (yes, there is discrimination in these bars) but basically, if you are a non-Korean, buy no drinks, just ask for sex, manage to be a hard-head and not give in to the girl and mamasan begging you to buy drinks then you can get some action just for cash. Downside is, it will be quick and they will push you out fast. In all likelihood, lowest of all possible will be. 100, 000 for full monte. For a tug will be around 40 to 50, but they will really try to get you to push for a drink first.
The mamasan at ABC is a bit eccentric. The girls will tell you she's a kind person for feeding cats outside all day and night, but "nice" isn't the impression you'll get by any stretch. She can be a real challenge at times, unless you wave cash in front of her face. She'll get angry at you, shout at you, then ten seconds later be your buddy. Then she'll get angry again. Just roll with it, say nice things, and buy a drink for your girl if she gets nasty.
As someone they don't know, you're best off buying one or two drinks for the girl you like, getting to know her, and then asking what other services are available. ABC will take you in the back and pull down a blind if it's your basic tug or BJ, or across the street to a room for the full monte if the bar is busy. One of the girls usually lives in that apartment. There is also a small room and toilet in the back of ABC, but these days they keep that closed. Usually someone crashes there, too, and it's possible they may take you there.
I suggest you buy 1 drink, start asking about other possibilities, and maybe buy one more if you feel like separating yourself from more cash before the deed. That will make them happier, anyway.
Rule you should always remember. ALWAYS be prepared to smile, say you don't have enough cash, and walk away if they ask too much. NEVER NEVER NEVER use a credit card. Sometimes they'll come down in price if you start to leave. Other times, not. In any case, always be prepared to walk out. They'll remember that you walked out the last time, and will be more amicable on a slow night the next time you blow through. If not, well, there are a lot of other fish in the sea on which you can spend your money.
DeepThroat
02-11-11, 00:09
Oh, Coitus. My mistake. Now that I think about it, the one who told me she once had two parts was another transgender who used to work on the hill at what is now Coyote, and later at another bar- VIP. She's not there anymore. She was her good friend, and didn't appear to be trying to cut the other ladyboy down.
In any case, she is not and never has been a natural woman from the start. His / her persona is somewhat shy, and she'll avoid you if you avoid her.
DeepThroat
02-11-11, 01:13
So long-timers, who do you miss the most?
I rarely venture from the Hill. Used to live on it some time back. Pal'd around with a number of ladies over the years. Seen 'them come, and seen 'them go. Even dated a few (not with serious intentions).
Thought I'd spill the beans on what I know about formers, because I'm curious if anyone knows what happened to anyone else?
Years ago, as in early 2000's during the end of my first stint in Korea, there was a lady named Youngsan (or Youngsun) that worked at Tiger. She was A#1 in my book, at the time. She had it all, including humor, and service was outstanding. Alas, I heard she moved away and married some dude from the UK. She disappeared around 2003.
Then, who could forget Dallas Club (now Moonshine). Other than names of the women, which I have forgotten. There were two very hot ladies from Jeju who worked in there. Guys used to line up for the thinner one, because she also had humor, great English, and gave great service. A number of ladies on the hill were jealous of her because she was always busy. It was rare to see her door open. I know of more than a few months where she easily earned 10+ million. The other girl was a bit more quiet, but had a rockin' body with excellent curves and also very pretty. These two disappeared around 2003 just before the troops began patrolling and things went "off limits" for army guys. Someone told me a rumor that some guy roughed-up the smaller girl pretty bad, and she quit. Don't know if that was true or not. May have just been a jealous girl's fantasy. The second gal got married to a soldier from Kansas City about the same time. The two ladies had the bar together, so both moved on around the same time. Both of them had worked in Cheers prior to opening Dallas (Moonshine). My mind is hazy, and I can't remember if they named it Dallas then, or if they'd changed the name to Moonshine? I just remember them remodeling the place. Maybe they did name it Moonshine, and it's been that ever since?
Some other fun ladies, that are long-gone, are CeCe (stunning half-Korean / Chinese who had a kid and was rumored to have been previously married) , GeeWoo (she ran owing money to people, but now commutes between Canada and Korea. Forever missed) , Yumi (whatever happened to her?) , Yuri (a girl from Moulin Rouge whom I miss terribly for her incredible BJ skills- apparently married) , and Sunny (short girl who was once a semi-famous dancer who also split owing people money. Rumored to work around Uijeonbu). Annie (fabulous BJ for 40, 000, but married a Canadian guy around 2005 and disappeared. As mentioned, she had the sexiest black-rimmed 50's style glasses until she got lasex surgery). I wish them all well.
I really miss the early 2000's. I never saved a penny, though. Back in those days, the hill was sooooo busy. Troops were still allowed to frequent these establishments, and that drew several prettier (and cleaner) ladies. They didn't have cameras yet (didn't need 'them) , and the ladies usually physically grabbed guys off of the street, trying to pull them into the bar. It was nothing for these girls to earn 5 to 10 million won plus in a month doing what they did. You could just sit and talk to the ladies and they wouldn't push you so hard to buy drinks because so many guys would go in / out all of the time, giving them plenty of business. Times have changed.
Asian Butters
02-11-11, 09:21
Beers on the hill are in the 5, 000 range. If you just drink up at Polly's, you can get a soju kettle (soju mixed with your choice of fruit punch, cider, cola, whatever) for somewhere around 7, 000 to 9, 000. That's a liter of drink, and lasts a while, if you don't mind sweet drinks. Lady drinks in the girly bars will run you 20, 000, and she'll talk to you for anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes, then ask you to buy more.
I don't know what you're going for, but I'd suggest starting-out by heading up to Polly's or Stompers for a few drinks on your own (regular bars) , and keep an eye-out to see what ladies capture your attention. IMHO, the sexiest finds will be the gal in Tiger Club with fake boobs, the cute little spunky half Korean / Japanese woman a bar or two up from that (not the one that looks like Michael Jackson) , or the younger ladies in ABC club that are new and naive. Oh, and First club at the top of the hill, across from Stompers, has an extremely kind / funny / sexy gal that I think everyone should buy a drink for regardless. If you click with her, the service will be fabulous. If you like gals in their upper 30's who still look great and can remove the chrome from a trailer hitch quite nicely, try VIP. Their friend in the bar one before Tiger is nice as well. She's got a great laugh.
Oh, and if Cheers is open, drop by to see who is working. There can be some very young / cute college girls with ambitions. Be careful, though. One of the hottest, and most talkative taller girls is a massive tease. Thanks for the advice deepthroat. I plan on hitting of some the places you mentioned like ABC, Tiger Club or Cheers in the next couple of days. I've only been to the RLD in Yongsan so far and each time I went it was the same thing. Lick your nipples. 2-3 min BBBJ followed by 2-3 basic positions for 70, 000. Some of the girls in Yongsan were pretty hot on the main strip but I would like girls with better service. So Ill check out the Hill, hopefully I can find a girl that at least offers DFK, BBBJ, DATY and if I'm really lucky also offers COF or greek.
DeepThroat
02-11-11, 09:51
Oh, FYI, I kept mentioning "First Club" at the top of the hill. I meant "NO. 1 Club."
Sorry. There actually is a "First Club" down below the hill in Fish Alley (now called Little Nigeria) , but I haven't seen a pretty enough lady in there for years.
DeepThroat
02-11-11, 10:11
Thanks for the advice deepthroat. I plan on hitting of some the places you mentioned like ABC, Tiger Club or Cheers in the next couple of days. I've only been to the RLD in Yongsan so far and each time I went it was the same thing. Lick your nipples. 2-3 min BBBJ followed by 2-3 basic positions for 70, 000. Some of the girls in Yongsan were pretty hot on the main strip but I would like girls with better service. So Ill check out the Hill, hopefully I can find a girl that at least offers DFK, BBBJ, DATY and if I'm really lucky also offers COF or greek.Side note: ABC is actually "BC" at the moment, because the "A" fell off of the sign. It's 3/4 of the way up the hill and on the left. Prettier ladies in there usually show up around 9 to 10pm, with sometimes 1 coming in around 7. The young, very healthy girl with well-done fingernails will meet several of the things on your list.
Cheers opens between 9 and 10, and the girls can show up randomly anytime after that. Usually all are there by 10:30. You'll be paying more for a girl from Cheers, as they are younger, prettier, generally a lot cleaner, and they know it. If you want the full monte with one of these ladies, you'll end up leaving the establishment for a hotel. I've never taken one out of there, but I'm sure costs will be in excess of 200, 000, plus drinks. You can get a tug behind the curtain in the corner for far less from some of them. I think you have to work-up to it to get much out of some of these girls (the better looking ones, anyway).
In my opinion, another good chance at receiving what you're interested in would involve a visit to the Korean / Japanese lady working in Texas club (I think it's Texas. NOT her co-worker, who looks like Michael Jackson) I believe Capital, next to it, is the place with the stunning tranny you'd never guess was a tranny. The girl you want is short, petite, has a thin almost 80's rock-style haircut, and is a whole lot of fun.
Also, if she's working (she's not around on weekends these days) you will find that the tall, thin bleach-blonde with a rockin' body working in Moonshine will be quite amicable to many of your interests. You'd better like tattoos, though.
No. 1 club might interest you, as well.
I have no idea who does greek, as stool-pushing has never interested me.
Jack Rabbit
02-13-11, 04:01
Tried sending PM, however your account won't accept them. I normally don't get involved with others posts, however, as indicated previously, the SPs on the hill ARE reading your posts. A while back some lurker on this site informed some SPs on the hill, so they have been monitoring it. Your comments are already circulating, and is affecting quality of service and price. Moreover, they probably even know who you are now. To be honest, it is refreshing to have new talent on the hill, but when explicit details are provided, it doesn't last very long. In fact, LE (law enforcement) has increased their presence as well (last Thursday night). Moreover, Punters in all shapes and sizes start frequenting them more often, thereby hardening the chicks and lessening the experience. I recognize this is inevitable, but it would be nice to enjoy for a while first. Case in point:Nana at Molin Rouge. Too much traffic and detail was provided here, so she eventually closed up shop (among other reasons). Giving the lowdown on prices and process for newbies is fine, but once you provide names and specific locations, it changes the game. Hence, we usually PM info for the regulars here not all lurkers. With so many RLD closing and lack of available places which service foreigners, please don't further saturate the only market left available to us. Thanks kindly.
DeepThroat
02-13-11, 13:09
Gentlemen,
I typed a big long reply to this. I was quite perturbed at the time. Not sure if it went to post or not, because my browser did some strange things.
In any case, whether it did go through or not, I don't want to get into an argument here. My goal was merely to provide other people with information, as intended by this site. I'm going to rethink this.
I can't PM yet, apparently. I believe I have to be a regular member for some time before that can happen?
I'll be staying downtown by Lotte world hotel. Does anybody know of any AMP or massage places in walking distance?
Thanks for the help
Kimchi Warrior
02-14-11, 00:59
If you have a paid subscription, you just have to enable the PM function on your account preferences page.
Gentlemen,
I typed a big long reply to this. I was quite perturbed at the time. Not sure if it went to post or not, because my browser did some strange things.
In any case, whether it did go through or not, I don't want to get into an argument here. My goal was merely to provide other people with information, as intended by this site. I'm going to rethink this.
I can't PM yet, apparently. I believe I have to be a regular member for some time before that can happen?
DeepThroat
02-14-11, 12:54
Hummm. Would rather be able to PM without paying. I'll have to go back and read again, but I think I can do that after a certain time period (may be 6 months?).
Asian Butters
02-14-11, 16:53
Decided to hit Cheongnyangni 588 RLD tonight for Valentines day. It wasnt hard to find as its right outside Cheongnyangni station and you can easily see the pink lights from there. It was my first time going to th 588 RLD and its pretty big compared to the Yongsan RLD. Many of the windows werent open and I'd say there were only about 25 with their pink lights on. The majority of girls were 6-7's a couple of 8 and 9's. There was one really hot girl but something seemed off about her and I get the feeling she was a ladyboy. Actually after I noticed her I suspected a couple of other girls could possibly be ladyboys. I did a couple more passes by her window but it was hard to tell without stopping and really take a closer look. I held off on any action tonight as I didn't want to go with the average girls and I wasnt sure about the hotter girls but will definitely check it out again in a couple of days.
In my opinion, another good chance at receiving what you're interested in would involve a visit to the Korean / Japanese lady working in Texas club (I think it's Texas. NOT her co-worker, who looks like Michael Jackson) I believe Capital, next to it, is the place with the stunning tranny you'd never guess was a tranny. The girl you want is short, petite, has a thin almost 80's rock-style haircut, and is a whole lot of fun.The girl at Texas is a post op.
I am pretty good at spotting them as I have been around Asia a long time. Had a drink with her, was pretty sure about my assessment and stroked the vagina with my finger. Post op I am pretty sure.
All the other Trannys are butt ass ugly IMHO. She is hot though, for a dude.
The girl at Texas is a post op.
I am pretty good at spotting them as I have been around Asia a long time. Had a drink with her, was pretty sure about my assessment and stroked the vagina with my finger. Post op I am pretty sure.
All the other Trannys are butt ass ugly IMHO. She is hot though, for a dude. Actually, I just thought of this. This happened about a year ago so, I don't know who works there now. My bad. Have not been back and not been to the hill in a long time. I am sure things have changed.
DeepThroat
02-16-11, 07:04
The girl at Texas is a post op.
I am pretty good at spotting them as I have been around Asia a long time. Had a drink with her, was pretty sure about my assessment and stroked the vagina with my finger. Post op I am pretty sure.
All the other Trannys are butt ass ugly IMHO. She is hot though, for a dude.We are not talking about the same person. I may have the bar names mixed up, or you saw the wrong girl. You probably saw the Michael Jackson.
DeepThroat
02-20-11, 08:51
Wondering if anyone else will have to cut back on their fun play due to the massive tax increase foreigners have been hit with this year in korea? I used to get back over a million won refund yearly. This year I had to pay in nearly a million!
Taxes just went in last week at our school. Ouch!
DeepThroat
02-20-11, 08:59
Wondering if anyone else will have to cut back on their fun play due to the massive tax increase foreigners have been hit with this year in korea? I used to get back over a million won refund yearly. This year I had to pay in nearly a million!
Taxes just went in last week at our school. Ouch!
Oh, and if Cheers is open, drop by to see who is working. There can be some very young / cute college girls with ambitions. Be careful, though. One of the hottest, and most talkative taller girls is a massive tease.Deepthroat, are you talking about Sarah? She has long black curly hair and bubbly perky personality. She speaks English very well. I was chatting with her once. I really enjoyed talking to her. I wondered if she would be totally different in bed though.
My friend took me to Cheers. I had no interest in going to a juicy bar because I didn't want to spend a lot of money buying lady drinks. He assured me could get some for 100, 0000 won and no ladydrinks. He told me that he would pay for my drinks and the lady drinks, so I said sure. We got a table with two girls. I had Sarah, and he had a different girl. My friend pulls out his credit card and gives it to them. He buys drinks for himself, the girls, and I. The girls are knocking back ladydrink, after ladydrink at 20, 000 won a pop. I'm having a good time bullshitting with Sarah, on my friend's dime. My friend motions to me, that he is ready to fuck his girl. I tell Sarah it was nice talking to her and I will visit her in the future. I exit cheers and walk by 20 minutes later.
I see my friend's girl standing out front trying to lure in customers. My friend told me, the girl asked him 400, 000 won for sex, and found out he had a 500, 000 won charge on his card. So he walked with a serious case of blue balls. All that money for nothing.
A separate story. I went to a juicy bar at the top of the hill with a different friend of mine. This guy is very polite and can get into a long conversation with any stranger using his charms. I was fucking a girl long time in the back while he was chatting with mama-san and some of the other girls. The mama-san gave him coffee and didn't charge him for any drinks. She told my friend a lot of details on how they operate. I can't remember them all, but basically she said that when watching the guys walking by with the camera, if the guy is Black, Middle Eastern, or East Indian, they will ask for a higher price. She also said that military guys always try to negotiate the price, but English teachers usually accept the first offer given to them.
I thought I would share some of my experiences in Korea.
I've been to the Yongsan RLD twice. B Row only. There are some young girls there with smoking hot bodies. This place is cheaper if you want the quick pump in dump. I personally can not cum that fast and I want some GFE with my service. I decided I will never go there again because I get much better quality service from the girls on the hill. The only thing Yongsan has going for it is the cheaper prices and not worrying about lady drinks. A little tip, don't use the Yongsan train station if you don't have to. On the light blue line there is a stop called Sinyongsan that puts you right near the action.
There has been plenty of information on the hill here. I've used this place three times from three different girls. I've always had nice GFE here and no clock watching. That is the kind of experience I want.
I live in a small city two hours from Seoul. I've always avoided the barber shops there because I assumed they wouldn't take foreigners. That and I want something more than a HJ. I decided to go ahead and just try one in my town anyways. I walked in and was greeted by a very pretty woman in her 30s. I didn't negotiate or ask for anything. I figured I would just play dumb and pretend like I'm here for a massage. 40 minutes into the massage, she takes her clothes off and climbs on top of me. She gives me excellent full service. Afterwards she gave me her phone number and asked me to call her. I'm going to try to get her to come to my apartment so I don't have to fuck her on a massage table.
Interesting post from JimJim. I had something similar 3 weeks ago (I mean, not expected).
Went to Hongdae St. Looking for the place mentioned by Koyangi 2 yrs ago, behind Seokyo hotel. Went to the hotel backdoor, and saw to my right, accross the street, the signs he mentioned. Went downstairs, the presence detector announced me and a lady opened the door. She said they were not ready (it was 1pm) and asked me to return at 4pm.
I didn't have time, so continued walking and saw two poles and a large one together showing another entrance about 50m from the first place. Went there and was greeted by the lady (in her 40s).
Went to the table, undressed and kept the underwear. She washed my feet and asked to wait.
Comes in another lady, in a very loose dress. Gives me a half-ass back massage, turns me around, massages my arms and teases me.
I knew that at least a HJ I would get. I was wondering if a BJ was in the menu.
She goes and returns with the hot towels for the cleaning. Removes my underwear and, while cleaning me, she takes her panties off. Nice!
Then, while doing a HJ, she let her dress go. Now I see this is getting better.
Starts a BBBJ, and I'm touching her all over. Then, to my surprise, she grabs a condom, slips it and jump on the bed. With a smile, puts me in and rides me cowgirl, while licking my neck and ears.
I ask her to go slowly, to which she responds nicely. After a while, I come (after 1 week without any action. Couldn't hold it).
Cleans me, gives me a vitamin juice, always chatting and happy. Nice attitude. Damage: 80, 000.
Cheers,
Sauro07.
P. S. : any ideas for nuru / slippery, please, share.
Jack Rabbit
02-21-11, 01:56
I see my friend's girl standing out front trying to lure in customers. My friend told me, the girl asked him 400, 000 won for sex, and found out he had a 500, 000 won charge on his card. So he walked with a serious case of blue balls. All that money for nothing.
Them. Wow, that's just plain stupid. Giving your credit card and not setting parameters or even negotiating in advance. Personally, I wouldn't want to hang out with someone like that, buying me free drinks of not.
Had some time to kill on SUnday (yesterday) , so went to Cheongryangni at about 930am. Was surprised to see some girls there already. Some were making up their faces. I didn't want to engage them this early in the morning, so just walked about. There at least 5 girls, maybe 5-7 quality. One of them looked like she had relatively big natural boobs as well.
FYI
Quite report.
Went there about 3pm. Quite. Was asked what style girl I wanted. Had no preference so they ushered me directly to a room. Cost now up to 200K. Maybe because I wasn't accompanied by anybody. (I can pass as a Korean, but speak very little Korean.)
Girl was about a 6, size B boobs. Speaks little english. Service was adequate.
Face massage, followed by soapy. Then the real deal. Aksed if she can do CIM, but she gave me a light slap on the chest and gave me the"don't be cheeky look".
Overall, enjoyed myself, but no blind massage.
I will probably venture to another place for theprice and try to get a blind massage as well.
Went there yesterday, Monday night about 11pm. Was behind a group of Japanese men. So, pickings were low. A lot of girls were quite cute and doll faced. Maybe (to my taste) about 6-8. Was walking around looking for a big-boobed girl. Saw one quite attractive. Usual price 70k.
I suppose I know in heart that it is usually a push-up bra that exaggerates the size. I was slightly disappointed, she probably had a size B-small C. Anyway, appreciable length of BBBJ. Then the condom and she asked me to do her missionary. After a while, I asked to change and had her cowgirl. A bit mechanical, no GFE.
Quick in out. 70K.
Did a quite walk today. But didn't partake as I was a little tired. Hope I have a chance to savour a Gangnam Anma tomorrow.
Hi guys am at the Sheraton Incheon this week seems a new area by the building going on, has any body got any details on full service massage in the area? Walking distance from the hotel would appreciate any advise many thanks
Superstar Anma in Yeoksam which was opposite Hotel La Mir is no more. There is a new construction at the sire. Further down the road to Soelleung there is another Anma named A+. Couldn't find the entrance, one possible entrance was locked. On the ground floor is Llumar sunscreens.
Decided to go to Soelleung area then. See my next post.
Found this walking out of Seolleung station exit 10. Second street on the left I think the street name is Tehran.Ro 69 gil. There is an Ilsin pharmacy at the corner. Walk into the side street for about 20m and you will meet a side lane on the left. Another 20m in, you will see a big anma sign in Korean. No englsih name. It has black doors. Went there about 5pm.
I look like a Korean and speak a little bit of korean. The receptionist is quite pretty, told me 190k. I suppose prices have gone up.
She asked me what style and I picked up courage and said big boobs in my broken korean. She and\knew what I meant. Was brought to the change room where there are lockers. You strip and go for a shower or sauna. Then get a robe and the guy brings you to the room. There are 5 floors. Was brought to the room I think 207.
Girl was pretty. Absolutely no english. Her name is Yoona. She was maybe a 8. 5. Nice boobs, about a C with nice nipples. Anyway, she stripped and brought me to the shower. Did the usual. Cleaned everything. Then the soapy. She had big boobs, so she slid my cock in between which was nice. No rimming though.
Then toweled off. Lied on the front and she did the cat bath. I thought I would get the rimming but no chance. Turned me around and repeated, now with BBBJ. She was quite good. Then she flipped around to 69 and I reciprocated.
She then put on the condom and mounted me. She was hot, so I came pretty quickly. She didn't pull me out immediately though. After that, she gave me a few kisses.
Then came the clean up and she laid me She asked me to go back again. And kissed me down. She put on a facial mask on me and then I sort of dosed off. I think she was reading a book whilst I was dozing.
Then I changed and the receptionist came this time. She asked me if I wanted a real massage and I said yes. So she brought me to the 5th floor and told me to wait. The massage was done by a blind guy. Pretty ok except I was short of time, so I asked him to stop. I think that gave him the impression that I didn't like it. So I tried to reassure him that I had a meeting.
All in all, I like the experience. Not as posh as S anma but good girl. Not disappointed. Took a walk around the place. There are a few more anmas around. However, I think if you don't look Korean, you may not get in.
Good luck and stay safe.
Found this walking out of Seolleung station exit 10. Second street on the left I think the street name is Tehran. Ro 69 gil. There is an Ilsin pharmacy at the corner. Walk into the side street for about 20m and you will meet a side lane on the left. Another 20m in, you will see a big anma sign in Korean. No englsih name. It has black doors. Went there about 5pm.
I look like a Korean and speak a little bit of korean. The receptionist is quite pretty, told me 190k. I suppose prices have gone up.
She asked me what style and I picked up courage and said big boobs in my broken korean. She and\knew what I meant. Was brought to the change room where there are lockers. You strip and go for a shower or sauna. Then get a robe and the guy brings you to the room. There are 5 floors. Was brought to the room I think 207.
Girl was pretty. Absolutely no english. Her name is Yoona. She was maybe a 8. 5. Nice boobs, about a C with nice nipples. Anyway, she stripped and brought me to the shower. Did the usual. Cleaned everything. Then the soapy. She had big boobs, so she slid my cock in between which was nice. No rimming though.
Then toweled off. Lied on the front and she did the cat bath. I thought I would get the rimming but no chance. Turned me around and repeated, now with BBBJ. She was quite good. Then she flipped around to 69 and I reciprocated.
She then put on the condom and mounted me. She was hot, so I came pretty quickly. She didn't pull me out immediately though. After that, she gave me a few kisses.
Then came the clean up and she laid me She asked me to go back again. And kissed me down. She put on a facial mask on me and then I sort of dosed off. I think she was reading a book whilst I was dozing.
Then I changed and the receptionist came this time. She asked me if I wanted a real massage and I said yes. So she brought me to the 5th floor and told me to wait. The massage was done by a blind guy. Pretty ok except I was short of time, so I asked him to stop. I think that gave him the impression that I didn't like it. So I tried to reassure him that I had a meeting.
All in all, I like the experience. Not as posh as S anma but good girl. Not disappointed. Took a walk around the place. There are a few more anmas around. However, I think if you don't look Korean, you may not get in.
Good luck and stay safe.Could you do me (and other non-asians) a favor and ask these places if they are foreigner friendly when you go there? It's pretty hard to find good foreigner friendly anmas, and this one seemed very nice.
Could you do me (and other non-asians) a favor and ask these places if they are foreigner friendly when you go there? It's pretty hard to find good foreigner friendly anmas, and this one seemed very nice.Unfortunately, my Korean is not good enough to ask that. However, I got the feeling that it may not be so foreign friendly to non-korean looking guys.
As the attendant was talking to me. I told him that I can only speak very little korean and I didn't understand what he meant. However, there was another Korean monger, in the changing room that looked a bit angry. So, I am not sure.
I didn't see any foreign guys anyway.
But I will try if I go again. Before I leave. If I don't post anything, it means I didn't go. Sorry.
DeepThroat
02-24-11, 15:17
Hit the Hill in Itaewon tonight. Blew a load on one of my regulars after chatting with a few others around the area. Prices have not changed, and they did comment that it has been busier lately. That girl Cherry with the big breasts and fake contacts asks for so much compared to other bars, I can't believe they stay in business. She must think I am rich or just hate me.
It's pretty hard to find good foreigner friendly anmas, and this one seemed very nice.You have to forgive my ignorance because I don't visit these places that often, but are Anmas and Barber Shops the same thing? I live in a small city away from Seoul. There are about 5 barber shops here, and all of them have accepted foreigners. This small town is not as welcoming to foreigners either like Seoul. I figured the barber shops would be foreign friendly in the big cities.
Another question, is the blind massage common at barber shops? The one I went to, the lady massaged me also fucked me.
Did you say big breasts, DT? . Could you kindly post a photo. Chao ma nayo.Just the mentioning the size gets you excited? Actually it should be kam sa ha mida, Cha ma nayo means you're welcome!
Unfortunately, my Korean is not good enough to ask that. However, I got the feeling that it may not be so foreign friendly to non-korean looking guys.
As the attendant was talking to me. I told him that I can only speak very little korean and I didn't understand what he meant. However, there was another Korean monger, in the changing room that looked a bit angry. So, I am not sure.
I didn't see any foreign guys anyway.
But I will try if I go again. Before I leave. If I don't post anything, it means I didn't go. Sorry.I'm a white guy but I can speak Korean pretty well, that doesn't always help though. Anyway I would very much appreciate if Asian-looking guys could ask "baekindo gwaenchanayo?" which means "Are white people ok as well?". Maybe you feel awkward asking that, but the info would be helpful for us whities
Did you say big breasts, DT? . Could you kindly post a photo. Chao ma nayo.I can recommend you to see Cherry if you like big breasts! She works at the bar called Happy Days at the top of Hookers Hill in Itaewon.
I can recommend you to see Cherry if you like big breasts! She works at the bar called Happy Days at the top of Hookers Hill in Itaewon.I walked by Hooker Hill last night. Most of the shops were closed (actually many RLD shops are usually closed on Sundays). Is Cherry the only one working at Happy Days? I walked pass there and I saw a fairly thick and aged lady with big breasts and long black curly hair (actually, I'm not 100% on the hair). Is she Cherry?
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I walked by Hooker Hill last night. Most of the shops were closed (actually many RLD shops are usually closed on Sundays). Is Cherry the only one working at Happy Days? I walked pass there and I saw a fairly thick and aged lady with big breasts and long black curly hair (actually, I'm not 100% on the hair). Is she Cherry?She is not the only one working there, but she has been standing in the doorway everytime I went by there and she is the only one with unusually large breast as far as I know. I don't know exactly how old she is but I guess she is 30 something, not skinny but definitely not a fatty.
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How can I meet her?
Please contact me by email with her contact info.
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$300 for 2 hours. Ok.
Regards
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Can anybody provide directions to IVY in Seoul? I heard it was similar to Belle except the girls get completely naked. I'm going back to Seoul in a couple weeks and would like to give it a try.
I've been to Belle many times and enjoy the service there. I also enjoy VIP across from COEX. You get a much better massage than at Belle and the finish is always nice, but most of the girls won't remove any clothing which is a bit disappointing. I tried Cleopatra during my last visit but got turned away at the door, so it's obviously not foreigner friendly.
I would appreciate any help in finding IVY.
It is possible to buy viagra in Seoul? And if yes. Where? Regular pharmacies?
Have a trip coming up. Need to "re-stock". Ha! Ha!
Member #4152
03-10-11, 13:43
Can anybody provide directions to IVY in Seoul? I heard it was similar to Belle except the girls get completely naked. I'm going back to Seoul in a couple weeks and would like to give it a try.
I've been to Belle many times and enjoy the service there. I also enjoy VIP across from COEX. You get a much better massage than at Belle and the finish is always nice, but most of the girls won't remove any clothing which is a bit disappointing. I tried Cleopatra during my last visit but got turned away at the door, so it's obviously not foreigner friendly.
I would appreciate any help in finding IVY. What's VIP, BELLA and IVY? I'm kinda new to this and would appreciate some insight. How much do they usually charge?
It is possible to buy viagra in Seoul? And if yes. Where? Regular pharmacies?
Have a trip coming up. Need to "re-stock". Ha! Ha!Go to Iteawon. Walk up the main street. Pass McD on the right, BK on the left. Continue walking. Pass Dunkin Donuts on the right. A little ways down on the right is a sex shop. (Second floor I think) Try there for the blue energizer.
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What's VIP, BELLA and IVY? I'm kinda new to this and would appreciate some insight. How much do they usually charge?Belle is in Gagnam. Service is 70, 000 flat rate and includes light touch massage, followed by kissing and licking your back, a couple minutes of BBBJ, and a hand finish. Girls get topless but normally leave panties and skirt on. Most are young and cute. Foreigner friendly. Search this forum for detailed directions.
VIP is right across the street from City Air Terminal. Look for the spinning barber pole with "VIP" and "MASSAGE" on it. Hard to miss. Service is 80, 000. The place is generally a little nicer and cleaner looking than Belle. You change into boxer shorts that they provide, then the girl comes in and gives a full body massage front and back. The massage is more of the legit type and is much better than the one you get at Belle, but at the end the girl will remove your shorts and finish you off by hand. The girls there are also young and cute. The downside is most of them don't remove any clothing. The most I've had happen there is one girl dropped her top for me, but most have stayed fully clothed. Very nice and relaxing though regardless.
Cleopatra is like Belle except the girls get completely naked. Unfortunately they don't seem to be foreigner friendly. I got turned away the one time I tried it.
IVY is supposedly like Cleopatra (like Belle except completely nude). I just don't happen to know where IVY is.
Go to Iteawon. Walk up the main street. Pass McD on the right, BK on the left. Continue walking. Pass Dunkin Donuts on the right. A little ways down on the right is a sex shop. (Second floor I think) Try there for the blue energizer.
FrankThe Haal (?) pharmacy in itaewon is user friendly, same side as the Taco Bell across the street from the German restaurant. Extra charge for no 'script.
What is the rate for the Viagra at the Pharmacy in Iteawon. I plan on going to one of the two places during my current stay and would like to have a refrence on costs.
Thanks,
Frank
DeepThroat
03-14-11, 15:11
Good news:
Nana, formerly of Moulin Rouge, is back. She's working in one of the bars below it. Contrary to the false posting made by another user on this forum, she did not leave the job because people were talking about her or saying too much. If you've ever heard of the "chrome / trailer hitch" analogy, she would certainly fit the bill.
I am in the city for a few weeks and have decided to enjoy the massage opportunities the city has to offer. Having enjoyed the barber shop massage places in the past, I ventured out to one I have reported on before. My directions are from the Millennium Hilton where I am staying. With the front of the hotel to my back, I went left to the main road. Continuing left, I crossed the street and took a set of steep steps to the road below. At the road I turned right and crossed to the other side. I walked for about 15 minutes or so. The massage place is in a three story building with a large video screen on top of it. You cannot miss it as you walk down the street. Outside the building are the two poles, inside the building are signs in English and Korean for sports massage. The establishment is on the 3rd floor.
On entering, I was greeted by a lady in her mid 40s (?) who gave me sandals to wear and escorted me to a room with a table and privacy curtain. She collected the house fee of 80k and left. I disrobed and put on a pair of shorts she provided. A few minutes later a cute lady came in, mid to late 30's (?) with nice body. She asked me to lie down on my stomach. To say the massage was excellent would be an understatement. This lady has skills. Along with a great massage, she was wearing a short dress and all the while she was working on my neck and back, she was sitting on me. I easily imagined that the dress was hiked high on her hips with panties showing.
Towards the end of my massage she asked to turn over. More work to the non private body parts proceeded. Again excellent. When it came time for the main event, she left the room and came back a few minutes later. One of her bra / dress straps had fallen from a shoulder, so I went ahead and removed the other one. It was easy to get her to lower her bra for some great nipple sucking. During my sucking she casually played with my Johnson. It was for me a very close GFish experience. After about ten minute of this, she upped the tempo and finished me off quite nicely.
With a sports drink in hand, I dressed and left. As I was walking out the door I gave her a tip. The surprise on her face was worth every won. You could tell she was not expecting it. She followed me out the door and emphatically asked me to return soon. Who knows, I might.
DeepThroat
03-17-11, 01:40
She is not the only one working there, but she has been standing in the doorway everytime I went by there and she is the only one with unusually large breast as far as I know. I don't know exactly how old she is but I guess she is 30 something, not skinny but definitely not a fatty.Save your money. More can be had for less.
There is another lady working there on weekend evenings, but not sundays. She has a much better body, IMHO.
Usually ABC has younger and prettier girls after 8 or 9pm most days. ABC is the bar right down the hill next to it. Sign is broken and just says BC.
Save your money. More can be had for less.But I read pretty good reports on Cherry. I was planning on visiting either Cherry or Ji Hye at VIP. May I ask then who is more preferable between those two? I'm mainly going for big natural tits and service on titfuck rather than the whole package. The RLDs in Seoul give poor service so I'm trying out the Hill.
tried to find cheonho rld in east seoul but no luck! anyone have intel in that area lately?
chongryongni rld is half it once used to be in 2004 but still some good pickings. i met a really sweet 9 girl that you could fall in love with and tried very hard to speak english in the middle street opposite the subway / railroad side. another blond girl named ivy who spoke english and chinese fluently works there too but not gfe. about 40 girls between 5-8 in 4-5am period on friday. bbfs is not on the table (unlike 6 years ago).
passed by yongsan rld for a peek and it seems to be 70% shutdown or in a state of being torn down.
miari might still be the best bet for bbfs.
the rlds away from seoul are getting more and more foreigner unfriendly.
i have officially concluded that hooker hill does not accept asians. i visited the hill today to check out cherry at happy days. i saw her through the glass door, sitting and watching tv. but right when i was about to approach the door, she shooed me away by waving her hand while still sitting down. i also noticed whenever i'm walking through the hill, none of the girls open their doors wanting me in, and i'm a young, early 20s, half-jap half-korean guy. but when caucasians walk by, they open their doors and try to lure them in. in the end i have no more intentions to visit the hill since i can't get any action there. i can finally understand what the foreigners who monger are going through in korea. but i must say the quality of girls at the hill are not as bad as i read in this forum.
passed by yongsan rld for a peek and it seems to be 70% shutdown or in a state of being torn down.
miari might still be the best bet for bbfs. i'm also no longer planning on visiting yongsan rld. i checked it out today and only 4 a-row shops and 4 b-row shops were open. pretty surprising since it was saturday. yongsan is officially done.
from all the rlds in seoul, i never visited miari. but as i'm on a quest to look for a natural big breasted korean since i got rejected at the hill, i will check it out soon.
Lattelatte
03-19-11, 19:26
First time. Did the following as easy spots to find:
VIP across from the Seoul Air Terminal.
Very cute girl, she gave decent massage (clothed) , I fondled her a bit and good oil HJ after. 80k total.
Chyongnyangni red light district. Just head to the station and look for pink lights. There are probably 30+ girls in little glass rooms alot like Holland's districts. Bit older looking crowd of girls, but some lookers for sure.
Itaewon hill. Took a bit to find, its up the hill and up an alley. These bars remind me of vietnam and hk go-go type bars. Girls looked old.
I wonder though. Where are the really young hot girls? I mean 18-22 yo's should be somewhere. Are they accessible by us?
Abuasian1,
Nothing personal but it's hard to relate to your plight because based on your description of yourself; you are in pussy heaven over here. Just look at how much more access you have available to you. If it is true that the WGs on the hills don't accept Asians, that is a good thing for Weyguks. After all we generally have to endure so much to even attempt to enter the prime time establishments in Korea. I suspect if Asians start frequenting the hill, whitee may become the rejected ones.
As a side note it looks like the gaudy escort site estworld141 site was taken down by the Korean Cops.
Does anyone have any info on the Thai massage place in Itaewon. It is just past Goldfish on the same side of the rode. I did a search any did not find any information. It is also not indicated on the off limits map for the US Forces. I am here for my second week and I am looking for another place to explore. Intel on this place would be nice.
Thanks,
Frank M
Anyone recognize this grizzled old hoe? I remember her hanging out around the Itaewon subway station.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9HNKJGUtI
DeepThroat
03-21-11, 15:36
But I read pretty good reports on Cherry. I was planning on visiting either Cherry or Ji Hye at VIP. May I ask then who is more preferable between those two? I'm mainly going for big natural tits and service on titfuck rather than the whole package. The RLDs in Seoul give poor service so I'm trying out the Hill.VIP all the way.
I don't know why people get all gaga about that Cherry. She looks nasty, IMHO. Doesn't even bother to hide the edges of her nipples. Breasts just lay in the clothes like a pair of deflated balloons. Fake contacts. Nasty.
I mean, I can understand a guy wanting a girl with bigger boobs and all, but eeesh.
DeepThroat
03-21-11, 15:39
Yes, she's still around. Not sure what she's doing. Seems to try to hook you up with a "young lady." Yucky!
Anyone recognize this grizzled old hoe? I remember her hanging out around the Itaewon subway station.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9HNKJGUtI
Member #3443
03-21-11, 16:00
Yep, always hanging around subway exit and on sidewalk in front of Hamilton Hotel offering blow jobs. Yick!
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