Seoul

[Coitus68]

I have officially concluded that Hooker Hill does not accept Asians.I'm not really sympathetic, since as an Asian, you can get into the primo clubs that foreigners are barred from and score the free poon.

[Enchoo]

I might just rent a hybrid car to go to Busan and check out what is happening there.

I don't live in Seoul but 2. 5 hours away.

Jeonju and other Jeolla RLDs got foreigner and gyopo unfriendly suddenly.

All of my ATFs are not there anymore.

Viagra or Cialis is probably 15, 000 per pill average in pharmacies with a prescription.

Abuasian, don't sweat over that Hooker Hill adventure. That is the just the way the girls are.

The girls are in this for the money and to satisfy some sort of fetish / fantasy so just play with it.

We are looking for good value for our money. 200,000 won is not always it.

[Sardaukar1]

What's with all these reports about 30 whyear old and 40 whyear old WG's. They should be paying us to do them.

Where are all the young hot chicks? If we're paying they'd better be damn hot!

[MikeSaw]

Anyone recognize this grizzled old hoe? I remember her hanging out around the Itaewon subway station.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9HNKJGUtIYes, we called her "Skeletor" way back in 1996. Glad to see that she is still out there on the streets of Itaewon. She seemed to have a very good work ethic and always had her cosmetics / make-up on, and her clothes were always ironed, and she was not too pushy. Friends used to rave about her legendary BJ skills ("don't knock a toothless blow job till you've tried it," they'd say; a "gum job" I think they called it)

[Frank M]

So, I went the Thai Massage place in Iteawon that I asked about last week. It is 100% legit. They have a menu board on different level of services but nothing sexual or sensual was offered. An excellent place for a massage and relaxing environment though. I went to King Bar afterwards for a beer and eye candy.

[Will042]

Anyone recognize this grizzled old hoe? I remember her hanging out around the Itaewon subway station.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt9HNKJGUtIShe's a landmark in Itaewon, don't underestimate this crusty ol'lady. She will rock your world. Get her a buzz and let the good times roll. The guy in the video did.

[Will042]

Cleopatra is like Belle except the girls get completely naked. Unfortunately they don't seem to be foreigner friendly. I got turned away the one time I tried it.

IVY is supposedly like Cleopatra (like Belle except completely nude). I just don't happen to know where IVY is. Me too, where's Ivy? If you send me a PM of the directions, I'll buy you a big bottle of Cass or Hite.

Cleopatra is open now! Few months ago they were closed down. The quality of the girls varies like Belle but for some reason Cleo seems to attract the freaky ones. Hard to find establishment but can be found by searching the previous postings.

[Princearain]

I am in the city for a few weeks and have decided to enjoy the massage opportunities the city has to offer. Having enjoyed the barber shop massage places in the past, I ventured out to one I have reported on before. My directions are from the Millennium Hilton where I am staying. With the front of the hotel to my back, I went left to the main road. Continuing left, I crossed the street and took a set of steep steps to the road below. At the road I turned right and crossed to the other side. I walked for about 15 minutes or so. The massage place is in a three story building with a large video screen on top of it. You cannot miss it as you walk down the street. Outside the building are the two poles, inside the building are signs in English and Korean for sports massage. The establishment is on the 3rd floor.

On entering, I was greeted by a lady in her mid 40s (?) who gave me sandals to wear and escorted me to a room with a table and privacy curtain. She collected the house fee of 80k and left. I disrobed and put on a pair of shorts she provided. A few minutes later a cute lady came in, mid to late 30's (?) with nice body. She asked me to lie down on my stomach. To say the massage was excellent would be an understatement. This lady has skills. Along with a great massage, she was wearing a short dress and all the while she was working on my neck and back, she was sitting on me. I easily imagined that the dress was hiked high on her hips with panties showing.

Towards the end of my massage she asked to turn over. More work to the non private body parts proceeded. Again excellent. When it came time for the main event, she left the room and came back a few minutes later. One of her bra / dress straps had fallen from a shoulder, so I went ahead and removed the other one. It was easy to get her to lower her bra for some great nipple sucking. During my sucking she casually played with my Johnson. It was for me a very close GFish experience. After about ten minute of this, she upped the tempo and finished me off quite nicely.

With a sports drink in hand, I dressed and left. As I was walking out the door I gave her a tip. The surprise on her face was worth every won. You could tell she was not expecting it. She followed me out the door and emphatically asked me to return soon. Who knows, I might. Hey Frank,

Thanks for the report and the directions. I followed them today and probably got into a place just before the one you mentioned. Right at the X road. Same 3F nd almost same routine, except that the gal who was wid me did not remove her dress. But still nice massage nd good ending. For 80k.

Nxt time I will try the sports massage one

[Grimmy23]

Me too, where's Ivy? If you send me a PM of the directions, I'll buy you a big bottle of Cass or Hite.

Cleopatra is open now! Few months ago they were closed down. The quality of the girls varies like Belle but for some reason Cleo seems to attract the freaky ones. Hard to find establishment but can be found by searching the previous postings. Will,

Can you confirm that Cleo is foreigner friendly? Also, is it the same service as in the past (like Belle, except completely nude?). In your humble opinion, is it worth going there, given a choice between Cleo and Belle? The one time I tried Cleo back in September 2010 I was turned away at the door. The guy at the bottom of the stairs just said "no" and pointed back towards the stairs.

For some reason I like Belle and keep going back. It's probably because I've always had reasonable service from young, pretty girls at a reasonable price there. On the flip side I always leave wishing that the girl had taken everything off instead of just her top.

I'll be in Seoul next week and will probably only have time to hit one place. I'm torn between Belle, Cleo, and VIP.

[Frank M]

Was out walking today at around 2pm in Itaewon, and as always I walked up Hooker Hill just for the exercise and to see how many girls would come out to try to get in to visit. Normally they don't pop their head out until I am at the door but today, as I approached ABC two girls jumped out. Either they have ESP, a CCTV connection or mirrors but they suer knew I was going to pass by before I got there. Sort of funny in a way. Have to give them a pat on the back for being prepared.

FYI, I did not stop anywhere but a short common looking girl apeared at one door as I rounded the top of the Hill on the right. Not your normal looking hill girl. I might have to go back qand check her out.

Frank

[Frank M]

Hey Frank,

Thanks for the report and the directions. I followed them today and probably got into a place just before the one you mentioned. Right at the X road. Same 3F nd almost same routine, except that the gal who was wid me did not remove her dress. But still nice massage nd good ending. For 80k.

Nxt time I will try the sports massage one.Glad to hear you went out and found a place. I plan on returning to the place I reported on either Monday or Tuesday. As for the removal of clothing, I would suggest that you very gentleman like make the first advance by moving a shoulder strap off and see if that gets you any where. Who knows.

Best of luck.

Frank

[Hairy Wonder]

Frank,

For years now, the clubs all over Korea have been using CCD cameras outside the doors for seeing not only customers approaching, but also LE (in case the girls might be doing something LE would bust them for, or if soldiers are inside after their curfew). In some places, the cameras are very obvious, others have them well hidden.

HW

[Mancio]

Years ago now there was a place near Yeoksam station (I forget the name, but I found it through this site) , that was foreigner-friendly and offered HJ for 80, 000 won. Plus you got a choice of clothing for the girl to wear. It was also a leg / fetish place. All the girls had great legs, which, being a leg man, kind of appealed to me. Does anyone know of any similar place anywhere these days?

[DeepThroat]

FYI, one of the new "ladies" in AB- looks very unladylike. And from the way the newer young heavy one was blinking and fidgeting, I would say she has been up to something she shouldn't lately.

[JeanEspero]

Anyone have intel there? I might drop by Monday (tomorrow)!

[Georges Orwell]

Hi guys.

I reported some time ago about IVY and more,

And since that time I can see that some people are wondering where is it!

So I wanted to share a bit my experience there.

1. Cleopatra :

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=485630&wy=1126625&level=2&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=274.93964066453657&tilt=9.358310653803446&zoom=0&panoid=1016098186&screenMode=normal

Its basic GFE experience. You take shower wait for the girl and.

The firt time I went there, I got a really hot and young girl with really great body and big boobs. She was wearing a black and skinny dress and no underwear. She started by kissing all of my body and doing some slow massage. She was reallly cool and trying to talk with me. And then she removed her dress. I could feel her boobs all along my body. And then asked to turn. She continued to lick and kiss. And arrived around my balls, played a bit with her tong, started to lick my johnson really slowly but never reached the top. Then she came next to me, and came to talk while she was masturbating me. She was asking what I wanted. I started to kiss, lick and touch her tits, its was pretty huge and not fake. After that I asked her if she could continue there, but she kindly refused. I understood that in cleopatra they don't do BJ anymore like it was mentionned in an old review. The feeling with herwas pretty good, and then she came back between my legs, applied some oil on her tits, and started a titfuck. I didn't expect that at all. She knew what she was doing. She didn't rush at all, sometimes giving me handjob and sometimes using her boobs. Paradise. And logically after a while I fell it was the time for something. She then started to go faster (still titfuck) and I came all over her tits and a bit on her face. She was laughing about the situation. She cleaned and we continued to talk together. After, I took a shower and I got the famous bita 500. I left happy and came back to work (it was afternoon). After that exprience I clearly wanted to come back there. This is why maybe 1 month later I decided to try after a long and stresfull day of work. But this time one old man was saying to me NO. Then I asked why and he told me that the shower was broken, but I could find girls in another place. Umh I asked him to show me the way because I couldn't imagine where it was. He came with me outside and we crossed the street. He let me there with a big smile. Ok then. It was not my day for exploration, so I just kept in mind the name of this place for later. It was IVY.

Charge 70. 000W.

HJ.

2. Ivy :

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?wx=485585&wy=1126602&level=2&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&pan=252.71365286175333&tilt=-2.005352282957881&zoom=0&panoid=1016098100&screenMode=normal

I went there 2 times, and it was pretty much the same so I don't think it changed. First time I went there I just knew that he would be maybe something like cleopatra at least, but not sure. Because I'm not a fan of the soso massage, soso hanjob, and soso girl that is not taking care of customer. This is why exploration is good but you can loose also money for nothing. Anyway so that day I decided to try. First of all, among massage place, this one looks pretty clean, doesn't look like underworld or any dark cave. I asked to the guy the routine, how much, how long and for what. And it seems I could get a BJ so I say okay lets go, lets see. I went to my room, took a shower and waited for the girl on the little bed. And then she came. Young, stunning body in a thin and white transparant dress. I could see everything and no underwear at all, her boobs were a bit small but she was really great looking, hot. She also started to talk, asked to lay down. She did exactly like in cleopatra. Kissing and licking my back, then some massage, removed her dress, then naked on my back and licking. I turned back, kissed my body, started to lick my balls, and. She ate litterally my johnson. She was sucking hard and playing with her tong. Her head was moving up and down, it was a really great BJ. She did it for quite a long time until I jizzed in her mouse. Wow. After that we talked little bit, she bring me to the shower, and gave me a bita 500, and a hugg and byebye. How could I resist to not coming back there. Then I did a 2nd time, I got the same girl, she remembered me. And that time she skipped a bit the process. Instead of keeping her dress, when she saw me, directly at te begining she removed everything and came to the important part really quickly. This girl is a Pro. I don't know how is IVY now. It was 1 year ago.

Charge 70. 000W.

BJ, HJ.

3. Hongdae.

(no map)

Recently I was randomly stopping by Apjeong (not apgujeaong) near hongdae after party, and after a little drink not far, in a street something catched my eye. They was a double barber pole but it was different than usual. I came closer, and inside the building a bit deeper, I could see a big and bright sign with the name of sugar. Style was like a club / bar something like that. Point is it was with a double barber pole, but didn't looks like all of this massage place around. So I decided to give a try. Inside an old girl a bit surprised to see me there. Then I asked her if it was a massage place, she said yes. I asked if they was also some extra like BJ for example. She said yes. Oh ok then how much. 90. 000W. At that time I fell the surprise. So I just asked how old was the agashi. She told me around 40 but really pretty. Ok, important information was 40, why not, its late and I needed some action. I arrived to the small room, it was not a bed but a massage table. I took a shower came back and waited for the girl. Then a women arrived, around 35-40, Chinese (she told me a bit later) not crazy face (but not bad) but her body was really great. She was wearing a dress like other massage place. At that time I fell like okay maybe this time it was a bad choice, but anyway lets try to enjoy. She started to give some massage a bit everywhere, and came on my back, moved to make me feel her pussy, etc. Then she left. I was sure at that point she would bring the hot towel, because from now it was so same. But no. She just bring some stuff with her, asked me to turn back, removed my underwear, and she also removed all of her clothes. OH I think something is going on there. I discovered her body, she was pretty hot, a bubble ass, great tits, really I was so surprised, I couldn't believe it. She started by masturbating me and licking my nipples. I was touching her body, boobs, ass, playing with her pussy (you cannot do that in cleopatra and IVI). She was playing a lot with my balls, my johnson, it was a skillfull handjob. She did some titfuck too. I was pretty hard, she then took a condom, came with me on the massage table, applied it and started to suck. You know many massage place, especially double barber pole, as you know, they pretend to do blowjob or fucking, just by hiding and using their lubrificated hand, but she was not! She was pumping hard, licking all around, she then invited me to fuck her. She turn around and show me her ass. So is started in doggy style, rimming hard. She was doing all the good sound to make it great. The time to change of position I asked her to suck again. I was almost standing up on the table and she was sucking me! Well anyway we did several positions like that until I came. It was simply great, I couldn't believe what happend with this mid30/40 woman, hot like a pornstar. Even while she was removing the condom she was trying to make me crazy and playing with me. Despite old age (compared to other GFE place) this one is for the hardcore party.

Charge 90. 000W.

BJ, FS.

These are some good places I tried.

If anybody is more close like me to sinchon or hongdae, I would be happy to get some advise.

I'm curious to know if around there are some fetish places or anything like this.

Gangnam is too far, I don't want to go there.

Because as you can see, best places are often the hidden one.

[MenMyFranknstein]

Is Soo-Ae still in play?

I met her a couple months ago while on a business trip to Seoul. I'm back in Asia for a bit and, because of the events in Japan, it looks like I'll have some time to play before I can get my meetings there back on track. Thinking of coming to Seoul to cool my heels if I could hook up with Soo-Ae again.

Here's the back story. Although a long-time hobbyist, I wasn't aware of this forum until very recently and I've generally confined my adventures to my home turf in Europe (FKKs) with some forays into southeast Asia. Although my recent visit was my first to Seoul, I was aware of Itaewon / Hooker Hill from a friend and found it easily enough. Walked around a bit, and met Soo-Ae when she popped open her door as I walked by and invited me in for a drink. Had a couple glasses of wine with her and we seemed to hit it off, so I asked if she would go out for dinner and then back to my hotel. She agreed. She turned out to be a very delightful dinner companion and, suffice it to say, a really excellent provider; KW has more than adequately described her charms and talents. I'll just add that I was so impressed that I asked her out for a follow-up date the following evening for more of the same.

Let me know if I come to Seoul packing I won't be disappointed to discover she's left the life.

[Frank M]

I returned to the Barber pole establishment I reported on two weeks ago. Since I tipped last time I was hoping my return visit would bring more benefits. And it did. In spades.

First some general info: They remembered me from before. Good start! The girl said her name was Micky (right!) but it was easy for me to remember. I would say mid 30s with a nice face and body. Also, they play some really great backgound music. A mix of english and european language songs. And finally in the general catagory, it was warm. The massage table was heated. My first ever. Not sure I liked it or not.

Now to the specifics, The massage was the same as before. Excellent. That girl can sure press hard. When she was sitting on my back, she started moving her crouch up and down, so I recipicated by moving my ass into her at the same rythem. That got the mood set right!

After the flip and a little more massage she started the move towards my johnson. At that moment, I reached up and removed her dress straps and slowly pulled down her top. Some nipple sucking led to titty fucking which led to a nice BBBJ. I think she was moving to go for some other action but I blew my load. A little early but it was all great.

I did get some great ass play in also. Nice tiger striped panties. I think one more visit is in store before I leave.

Frank

[Sauro07]

I returned to the Barber pole establishment I reported on two weeks ago. Since I tipped last time I was hoping my return visit would bring more benefits. And it did. In spades.

First some general info: They remembered me from before. Good start! The girl said her name was Micky (right!) but it was easy for me to remember. I would say mid 30s with a nice face and body. Also, they play some really great backgound music. A mix of english and european language songs. And finally in the general catagory, it was warm. The massage table was heated. My first ever. Not sure I liked it or not.

Now to the specifics, The massage was the same as before. Excellent. That girl can sure press hard. When she was sitting on my back, she started moving her crouch up and down, so I recipicated by moving my ass into her at the same rythem. That got the mood set right!

After the flip and a little more massage she started the move towards my johnson. At that moment, I reached up and removed her dress straps and slowly pulled down her top. Some nipple sucking led to titty fucking which led to a nice BBBJ. I think she was moving to go for some other action but I blew my load. A little early but it was all great.

I did get some great ass play in also. Nice tiger striped panties. I think one more visit is in store before I leave.

FrankHey Frank,

It seems we share the same taste for places.

I've tried to figure out the place you mention (the one going from the HIlton) but, although I know that area pretty well (stayed there several times) , I can't understand your directions.

You go down the road towards Nandemun, correct? Then, from there, having the monument on your back and the street market in front of you. What do you do?

Cheers,

Sauro07

[Playboy2001]

I returned to the Barber pole establishment I reported on two weeks ago. Since I tipped last time I was hoping my return visit would bring more benefits. And it did. In spades.

First some general info: They remembered me from before. Good start! The girl said her name was Micky (right!) but it was easy for me to remember. I would say mid 30s with a nice face and body. Also, they play some really great backgound music. A mix of english and european language songs. And finally in the general catagory, it was warm. The massage table was heated. My first ever. Not sure I liked it or not.

Now to the specifics, The massage was the same as before. Excellent. That girl can sure press hard. When she was sitting on my back, she started moving her crouch up and down, so I recipicated by moving my ass into her at the same rythem. That got the mood set right!

After the flip and a little more massage she started the move towards my johnson. At that moment, I reached up and removed her dress straps and slowly pulled down her top. Some nipple sucking led to titty fucking which led to a nice BBBJ. I think she was moving to go for some other action but I blew my load. A little early but it was all great.

I did get some great ass play in also. Nice tiger striped panties. I think one more visit is in store before I leave.

FrankCould you indicate how much was the charges? 70,000?

Thanks

[Matt Hoople]

Is Soo-Ae still in play?

I met her a couple months ago while on a business trip to Seoul. I'm back in Asia for a bit and, because of the events in Japan, it looks like I'll have some time to play before I can get my meetings there back on track. Thinking of coming to Seoul to cool my heels if I could hook up with Soo-Ae again.

Here's the back story. Although a long-time hobbyist, I wasn't aware of this forum until very recently and I've generally confined my adventures to my home turf in Europe (FKKs) with some forays into southeast Asia. Although my recent visit was my first to Seoul, I was aware of Itaewon / Hooker Hill from a friend and found it easily enough. Walked around a bit, and met Soo-Ae when she popped open her door as I walked by and invited me in for a drink. Had a couple glasses of wine with her and we seemed to hit it off, so I asked if she would go out for dinner and then back to my hotel. She agreed. She turned out to be a very delightful dinner companion and, suffice it to say, a really excellent provider; KW has more than adequately described her charms and talents. I'll just add that I was so impressed that I asked her out for a follow-up date the following evening for more of the same.

Let me know if I come to Seoul packing I won't be disappointed to discover she's left the life.She was as of a month ago, most likely still is.

[Frank M]

Could you indicate how much was the charges? 70, 000?

ThanksHouse fee was 80, 000 and I tipped 30, 000.

Frank

[Frank M]

Hey Frank,

It seems we share the same taste for places.

I've tried to figure out the place you mention (the one going from the HIlton) but, although I know that area pretty well (stayed there several times) , I can't understand your directions.

You go down the road towards Nandemun, correct? Then, from there, having the monument on your back and the street market in front of you. What do you do?

Cheers,

Sauro07OK. As you walk out of the Hilton, stay close to the hotel and walk to the left towards Luck Seven entrance. Continue around the drive (traffic is now coming towards you from off the street) and Luck Seven entrance is to your back, you will see a drive on your left going down the hill. Turn there and walk down to the street below. The bottom off the drive is steep. At the road, there is a walking bridge to your left, turn right, and walk under the street above. Cross the road at the next cross walk, and continue going right. You will pass by sporting goods / clothing stores, optical shops, etc. The first major intersection will have an Outback Steak house on the left corner. Staying on the same side of the road, cross the street (Outback is to your back now) Continue walking. Cross another major intersection and look for the big screen on top of a three story building. The poles will be out front, and the sign for massage will be inside at the entrance. Upstairs. 3rd floor.

Good Luck,

Frank

[Sauro07]

Good Luck,

FrankNow that you mentioned going down after the casino and the Outback rest, I think I know what you are talking about. Let's see, will get back here.

Cheers

[Wfsswmr7285]

I am currently visiting Seoul and staying in Gangnam. I am full blooded Korean and speak Korean nearly fluently. I'm looking to cross two things off my bucket list (a pro and a Korean) and really am looking to do this as a one time thing.

I've perused this forum and the names that consistently pop up for the area are Belle, Cool, and Baek Song. Which of the anma's / officetels in Gangnam offer the most attractive girls? I am willing to pay up to 200k for FS and am looking for a girl who is at least an 8. 5 with an athletic build (think college cheerleader).

I appreciate any help and will come back with details of my exploits.

[Grimmy23]

Difficult couple of nights for me in Seoul.

I started out at Cleopatra based on recent reviews. I knew exactly where Cleo was since I tried going there back in September 2010, but was turned away at the door. This time, I showed up around 8:30 PM on a Monday only to find the place dark and the door locked with a barracade (plastic sawhorse type) in front of the door. Not a good sign.

Thanks to a recent report on here, I knew that Ivy was basically right across the street. That was my plan B for the night in case I couldn't get into Cleo. Unfortunately, Ivy was also locked up tight. Major bummer. It was about a 45-minute subway ride out to Sinchon, and now I was faced with a 45-minute return subway ride after coming up empty. I was tired and decided to just go back to my hotel for the night.

The next night I decided to go to an old standby of mine, Belle. I arrived around 7:30 PM and was met at the door by a young, attractive Korean girl. Unfortunately she told me they were full and I shoudl go back in an hour. Ok, no problem. I hung around the area, had a little dinner, and went back an hour later. This time, when the same girl answered the door and saw me, her shoulders slumped, and she said "I'm sorry, but we are completely full for the night." She handed me a card with Belle's phone number on it and told me to call for reservations next time. Wow, now I'm really feeling like hard luck. I've never been turned away at Belle before.

On the way back up the stairs I met up with a super cute Korean girl who was headed into Belle wearing her street clothes (jeans and a sweater). I figured she was one of the girls going in to work for the evening. Now I'm really feeling hot and bothered. I can't help imagining myself laying on the table with her top down and my dick in her mouth. I just had to go somewhere for a little stress relief, so I decided to head to VIP. I had been to VIP once before but only got a clothed HJ with no hint of anything else being available, but what the hell. It was worth another shot.

At VIP it was the usual routine. 80K at the entrance, change into boxers and wait for the girl to show up. In walks a TINY little Korean girl wearing a very slinky little dress that barely covered her butt. Seriously, this girl couldn't have weighed more than about 75 pounds. She was cute but not a knockout. Maybe face 6 and body. Umm, there wasn't one. Basically a toothpick, but she had very nice, soft legs so I'll give her a 7. She went to work with an ok massage on my back with hot towels and oil. Not professional massage quality by any means, but felt good. I felt up her legs and at one point she said "massage only, ok?" I said ok but kept feeling her smooth, sikly legs, and she didn't object. After about 15 minutes of massage she pulled my boxers off and asked me to flip over. As she massaged my front I kept feeling her legs. Within a few minutes she got to my dick and oiled it up. I lifted up her dress and started feeling up her butt through her underwear, and when she didn't object to that I slipped my hand under the back of her panties. Now she stopped what she was doing and said "tip. 50, 000." Again, I thought what the hell and gave her the extra 50K. Immediately, she dropped her top and, much to my surprise, took her panties off. She continued the HJ and didn't mind where my hands went. She had almost no tits to speak of but it was still fun to play with this very slinky naked body, especially with her soft, smooth, silky skin.

In the end, it really wasn't worth it. 130K total for a naked HJ while my hands roamed at will. Consdering you can get almost the same service for half that amount at Belle or Cleo (if I could ever get into the damn place) I wouldn't go back. VIP does seem to be a mixed bag though. In two trips I have had a clothed HJ with no hint of extras being available, and a naked HJ after an extra tip. I'm really not sure what to expect in that place anymore. The girls there are young and cute though.

[Enchoo]

ANyone have intel about Jangam Dong? Is it still happening?

[Coitus68]

OK. As you walk out of the Hilton, stay close to the hotel and walk to the left towards Luck Seven entrance. Continue around the drive (traffic is now coming towards you from off the street) and Luck Seven entrance is to your back, you will see a drive on your left going down the hill. Turn there and walk down to the street below. The bottom off the drive is steep. At the road, there is a walking bridge to your left, turn right, and walk under the street above. Cross the road at the next cross walk, and continue going right. You will pass by sporting goods / clothing stores, optical shops, etc. The first major intersection will have an Outback Steak house on the left corner. Staying on the same side of the road, cross the street (Outback is to your back now) Continue walking. Cross another major intersection and look for the big screen on top of a three story building. The poles will be out front, and the sign for massage will be inside at the entrance. Upstairs. 3rd floor.

Wouldn't it be easier to say it's only a half block down the street from Migliore?
Myeong-dong station, exit 5, wlak down the sidewalk past Migliore, past Sandpresso, and the double poles are right there on the corner.

[Frank M]

Wouldn't it be easier to say it's only a half block down the street from Migliore?

Myeong-dong station, exit 5, wlak down the sidewalk past Migliore, past Sandpresso, and the double poles are right there on the corner.I guess. For you. I am a tourist. If you gave me the directions you wrote and asked me to follow them, I would have given up and gone back to my hotel.

Anyway, Enjoy.

Frank

[Coitus68]

VIP, Belle, Cool, Cleopatra, Ivy, Endorphin (aka the double pole by Myeongdong Migliore)

They've all been discussed here in detail; prices, locations, Daum street maps, services provided.

But when do they open for business?

[Coitus68]

I guess. For you. I am a tourist. If you gave me the directions you wrote and asked me to follow them, I would have given up and gone back to my hotel.You meander all over the area to find a hole in the wall, but you'd give up when given directions 100m away from the place? A straight line from subway exit to the double poles, in under 60 seconds?

I think you're a little confused.

[Grimmy23]

Has anybody tried Rain Massage in Gagnam? It is on the same street at Belle and Cool, less than 5 minutes walking distance from both. Very hard to miss with a big neon sign, and it's a multi-floor building. I walked past it but didn't go in. Generally doesn't look like a place with anything "non-legit" happening, but the thing that makes me suspicious is there are curtains in front of the parking lot, similar to some of the love hotels in Japan so you can drive a car in there and have a little privacy when you get out of the car. I'd be interested in hearing if anybody has tried it.

[DeepThroat]

ANyone have intel about Jangam Dong? Is it still happening?Yes and no. Big crackdown happened there 2 years ago. Police even ripped tubs out of massage places en masse. Not what it once was, but some stuff apparently goes on more hidden, I guess.

[Will042]

Will,

Can you confirm that Cleo is foreigner friendly? Also, is it the same service as in the past (like Belle, except completely nude?). In your humble opinion, is it worth going there, given a choice between Cleo and Belle? The one time I tried Cleo back in September 2010 I was turned away at the door. The guy at the bottom of the stairs just said "no" and pointed back towards the stairs.

For some reason I like Belle and keep going back. It's probably because I've always had reasonable service from young, pretty girls at a reasonable price there. On the flip side I always leave wishing that the girl had taken everything off instead of just her top.

I'll be in Seoul next week and will probably only have time to hit one place. I'm torn between Belle, Cleo, and VIP. You usually can't go wrong with Belle although lately they seem to have alot of business and turn away walk-ins. Recommend making reservation or walk-in prior to 4pm. I rarely go there because I have other places I frequent. The girls at Belle follow the rule not to take everything off but other places vary. I can't recommend a place where they are fully nude because its really up to the girl to decide how far to go.

I can recommend some alternate places in the event Belle turns you away. There is White's and Lamp, which are a few kilometers NE from Belle. PM me for directions. If you do find a girl who provides outstanding service, get her name and always make a reservation for her. I always tip good. 20k or a bottle of J&B seems to do it.

As for Cleo, I went there last summer. The door guy does not speak any English so maybe he is uncomfortable trying to communicate with you. Maybe they didn't have any girls available for walk-ins. The last few times I went there, the door was locked so I assumed they had shut down. I usually go in the afternoons so maybe they are only open at night. When they were open, the girls were always more receptive of getting fully nude and more GFE than Belle.

If only time to hit one place, go to Belle since we know for a fact it is open for business.

[JimJim005]

Hi guys.

3. Hongdae.

(no map)

Recently I was randomly stopping by Apjeong (not apgujeaong) near hongdae after party, and after a little drink not far, in a street something catched my eye. They was a double barber pole but it was different than usual. I came closer, and inside the building a bit deeper, I could see a big and bright sign with the name of sugar. Style was like a club / bar something like that. Point is it was with a double barber pole, but didn't looks like all of this massage place around.George,

Can you give more detailed instructions how to find this place? And by Apjeong, did you mean Hapjeong? What's a good landmark to start at? A search for Apjeong in Seoul on Google turns up nothing. It seems like there are so few places other than the Hill that offer FS.

[BlueSeoul]

I am currently visiting Seoul and staying in Gangnam. I am full blooded Korean and speak Korean nearly fluently. I'm looking to cross two things off my bucket list (a pro and a Korean) and really am looking to do this as a one time thing.

I've perused this forum and the names that consistently pop up for the area are Belle, Cool, and Baek Song. Which of the anma's / officetels in Gangnam offer the most attractive girls? I am willing to pay up to 200k for FS and am looking for a girl who is at least an 8. 5 with an athletic build (think college cheerleader).

I appreciate any help and will come back with details of my exploits.Just go anywhere south of tehan-ro (the big road that connects kangnam station to samsung station) Look for the big red neon signs that say an-ma. There's a few particularly good ones south of kangnam station at bang-bang sagoeri. NE corner along the back streets.

Officetel's around Seolleung station will be cheaper, but the girls won't be as pretty, around 120-150. But you get more GFE if that's what you're after.

The hottest girls will be bought from a karoake, but that will cost you about 400 (for a group of 4) or more and then the ee-cha charge will be another 150 or so.

[Firebird]

To all the Seoul "experts". Any places with talent near the Millennium hotel?

Thanks

[Coitus68]

To all the Seoul "experts". Any places with talent near the Millennium hotel?RTFF.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=244547

[Firebird]

RTFF.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=244547Hey smart Ass. I DID RTFF! Nothing came up. Been mongering more longer then you so always offered information on my trip. I you have nothing to offer. Shut it

[Bradley1]

Just go anywhere south of tehan-ro (the big road that connects kangnam station to samsung station) Look for the big red neon signs that say an-ma. There's a few particularly good ones south of kangnam station at bang-bang sagoeri. NE corner along the back streets.

Officetel's around Seolleung station will be cheaper, but the girls won't be as pretty, around 120-150. But you get more GFE if that's what you're after.

The hottest girls will be bought from a karoake, but that will cost you about 400 (for a group of 4) or more and then the ee-cha charge will be another 150 or so.I am coming to Korea and I have very passable Korean language skills. Anma should be easy to find if there's big signs like that. What about officetels? How do you find those?

Also, by karaoke are you referring to room salon? If so, is there a huge charge if you go by yourself? I don't mind paying 400 just to drink.

[Blinkblink]

Had my first p4p experience this eve.

Checked out a barbershop / massage parlor I'd been aware of for quite a while, the big pole spinning 24/7 outside and a series of poles leading down to the door are good signs I guess.

I opened the door, greeted by a women maybe 35ish, busty, full-figured, nice face, and asked in my limited Korean whether now was a good time for a massage. But of course! She's wearing a pretty conservative top and a fairly short school-girl skirt.

I try to ask if the place offers "other services"."dal-un seo-bi-suh isseyo?". To which she replied no. I figured at that point that I was just in for a straight massage. Not what I was hoping for, but for the first time at this sort of place, what the hell. As I was to discover I just didn't ask the right question (any help how to ask that in Korean?)

I have no idea what to expect. She leads me to a room with a heated table, asks for 70000won, and she helps me take my clothes off save boxers and I get up on the table face up. She slowly washes my feet in a sink at the foot of the bed. Next she walks out and comes back with hot towels which she uses to rub down my face, neck, and arms.

At this point things are feeling intimate. I'm smiling at her a lot, making appreciative noises, etc, telling her that it feels great. As she walks out to get a fresh batch of towels I try touching her, first on the hip, to gauge the reaction. She doesn't seem to mind. I feel further, down her thigh, then fondling her cheeks. Things are moving in the right direction!

I make a pass at her tits and she says what in retrospect must have meant "just wait," so I back off for the moment. When she goes out again her hand passes briefly over my johnson and I make sure to let her know that's what I was hoping for.

When she comes back again, she's taken off the top, leaving a low-cut blouse underneath. I'm turned over, face down, and she mounts me on top, giving what I'm sure is a very poor massage in the great scheme of things but I'm loving it nonetheless, rocking my hips with hers, meanwhile she's laughing I guess at my eagerness. I reach back and fondle her legs, kiss her hands, etc.

After maybe 5 minutes of this she asks me if I want to turn over. Sure! She takes off my boxers and now I take the initiative. Puling down her blouse, revealing a set of very soft, large, still shapely tits which I then begin to suck as she starts giving hand service. Meanwhile I've moved up from playing with her thighs with my hand to realizing that she's taken her panties off (maybe she never had them on.) She's already wet and I reciprocate with my hand. She's moaning more than me, and for 10 minutes or so we are locked into this bliss.

I'm getting close to blowing, and after asking her to slow down a number of times she's still accelerating. My next thought is hoping she'll go for the BJ, but this was not to be. Finally I figure I'm more than happy with my money's worth, and let fly. She cleans up with copious towels, and we make some small talk, names, etc.

She asks me if I want to sleep, and I say no. Do I want a vita500? Hell yeah! She let's me suck her tits and we cuddle for a while as we make small talk, before she helps me get dressed and out the door. I give her a 10000won tip and she implores me to come back.

What I learned from my first foray into the hobby:

1) don't rush the experience, and.

2) should have done this sooner!

[Catire]

Had my first p4p experience this eve.

Checked out a barbershop / massage parlor I'd been aware of for quite a while, the big pole spinning 24/7 outside and a series of poles leading down to the door are good signs I guess.

I opened the door, greeted by a women maybe 35ish, busty, full-figured, nice face, and asked in my limited Korean whether now was a good time for a massage. But of course! She's wearing a pretty conservative top and a fairly short school-girl skirt.

I try to ask if the place offers "other services"."dal-un seo-bi-suh isseyo?". To which she replied no. I figured at that point that I was just in for a straight massage. Not what I was hoping for, but for the first time at this sort of place, what the hell. As I was to discover I just didn't ask the right question (any help how to ask that in Korean?)

I have no idea what to expect. She leads me to a room with a heated table, asks for 70000won, and she helps me take my clothes off save boxers and I get up on the table face up. She slowly washes my feet in a sink at the foot of the bed. Next she walks out and comes back with hot towels which she uses to rub down my face, neck, and arms.

At this point things are feeling intimate. I'm smiling at her a lot, making appreciative noises, etc, telling her that it feels great. As she walks out to get a fresh batch of towels I try touching her, first on the hip, to gauge the reaction. She doesn't seem to mind. I feel further, down her thigh, then fondling her cheeks. Things are moving in the right direction!

I make a pass at her tits and she says what in retrospect must have meant "just wait," so I back off for the moment. When she goes out again her hand passes briefly over my johnson and I make sure to let her know that's what I was hoping for.

When she comes back again, she's taken off the top, leaving a low-cut blouse underneath. I'm turned over, face down, and she mounts me on top, giving what I'm sure is a very poor massage in the great scheme of things but I'm loving it nonetheless, rocking my hips with hers, meanwhile she's laughing I guess at my eagerness. I reach back and fondle her legs, kiss her hands, etc.

After maybe 5 minutes of this she asks me if I want to turn over. Sure! She takes off my boxers and now I take the initiative. Puling down her blouse, revealing a set of very soft, large, still shapely tits which I then begin to suck as she starts giving hand service. Meanwhile I've moved up from playing with her thighs with my hand to realizing that she's taken her panties off (maybe she never had them on.) She's already wet and I reciprocate with my hand. She's moaning more than me, and for 10 minutes or so we are locked into this bliss.

I'm getting close to blowing, and after asking her to slow down a number of times she's still accelerating. My next thought is hoping she'll go for the BJ, but this was not to be. Finally I figure I'm more than happy with my money's worth, and let fly. She cleans up with copious towels, and we make some small talk, names, etc.

She asks me if I want to sleep, and I say no. Do I want a vita500? Hell yeah! She let's me suck her tits and we cuddle for a while as we make small talk, before she helps me get dressed and out the door. I give her a 10000won tip and she implores me to come back.

What I learned from my first foray into the hobby:

1) don't rush the experience, and.

2) should have done this sooner! Completely typical massage joint experience.

First you get a massage, then they take off their clothes / top, etc and they get down to business. Unfortunately, this business tends to be very mechanical and completely non GFE, so best reserved for pure blueball release. Afterwards, you're offered a canned coffee or energy drink and you have the option of sleeping there for a while. Since the clientele is almost all Korean, they stumble in completely drunk on soju and after blowing their load (s) surely fall asleep, hence that option is almost a necessity for the locals.

You'll know whether it's full service by the price quoted. If it's 100K plus, odds are there's intercourse involved, if it's 70K or so, then it'll be handjob. Another way to find out is to do the Korean hand sign for screwing, which is tapping one hand palm down on top of the other hand, made into a fist and turned sideways. Think of the old Three Stooges movies and how Curly likes to do that thing with his hands

[Gildo]

Just wrote up the report below and it went pretty long, so I'll put up a summary first. Very hot squirter near yeoksam station: 140, 000 / hr. Hard to get a reservation and she only sees Koreans, Korean / Americans. Maybe other Asian ethnicities if they can speak Korean. Gyopos who can speak Korean pretty well, PM me for info. For the non Asian friends: I might be able to get a contact for a high class massage parlor that accepts foreigners from her.

Just been mongering at the Cheonho RLD at a couple of my favorite houses, but I recently read about a squirter in Yeoksam from a Korean site. She works at a type of shop the Koreans like to call "designated fucking room" &45824; &46497; &48169; . These shops are setup very much like the massage / HJ places like Belle and Cool, but you get 30min FS for 70, 000-90, 000 won. I tried to make a reservation to see her for about a week with no luck, she was booked full everytime I called. I called on a Sunday afternoon to see if I might be lucky and got a reservation as her first customer of the day. However she only takes long time customers. 1hr for 140, 000 not a problem.

The place is really easy to find, about a 5min walk straight out of Yeoksam station exit #1. Got lead to a pretty big room, but 2/3 of it was the shower so the actual room was a bit cramped. After showering and waiting a bit, a very cute girl in her mid 20s came in. She had a cute squirrely face with nice full Bs and a pretty meaty ass. She's hot, I'd probably see her even if she wasn't a squirter. Her breasts were very firm and she has amazing pink nipples.

After a smoke and a bit of light talk, she took off her big sweater and I saw that she had on one of those butterfly thongs with an open crotch, so hot. She told me to start sucking her tits then moved down to her pussy. She pretty much directed me on how to suck and finger her pussy and after a few min, I saw a clear gel accumulate inside her vag and then she shot some liquid in my face with good amount of force. I didn't get that good of a facial since she covered it with her hand after the initial spray. This definitely wasn't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) unless she drinks a ton of water. It had almost no smell and it just had a slightly salty taste. I have no fucking idea what that thick gel was either. I don't think she came in with some lube already jammed up her pussy. After some more sucking and fingering shot #2 came.

After the second shot, she gave me a great but pretty short BJ, then put on the cover and started missionary. She's pretty tight but she's a screamer and a very dirty talker. I read that she was pretty loud beforehand, but I was still surprised. Maybe it was cause I drank too much the other night or maybe the screaming really did bother me, but I went limp about 5min in. She was pretty cool about it and took off the cover and sucked me until I got hard again, put it back on, then she rode me for a few min. I finished pretty quickly this time.

After another smoke and some chatting, she asked me if I wanted to masturbate together. She gave me another short but great BJ to get me hard then she stood over me while masturbating for shot #3 all over my chest and face. Then I pulled her down in the 69 position and started fingering her and told her to give me a HJ. Shot #4 came out almost at the same time my second pop came.

While we were chatting she mentioned that she has some friends who are working in Canada and Australia, so I thought she might be open to foreigners but she said she isn't. I even asked if she would for 300k or 400k she still wasn't interested. She did mention a high class massage place she used to work at that had girls who would take foreign customers. She said that she would give me the number to one of the managers there, but after showering I forgot to ask her for the number. I'd remember to get it from her if I can see her again.

[Zarcady]

Hi guys stumbled upon this site looking for advice on how to enjoy korea!

First time I went to an anma was a couple of days ago to a place near kangnam that was recommended to me by a taxi driver (who probably gets paid to lead customers here) and paid an even 200000 for what seems to be a normal anma experience with a 26 year old girl with no tits and an average at best face.

What I'm angry at myself about is that I seemed to have paid too much for sex with a chick that I couldn't even choose (the coordinator guy just put me into the room.) for like a 20 minute fuck all the while she was just waiting for me to finish.

I was just wondering, at these Anma places, how are you able to choose the girl you want to fuck? Because I seriously thought about asking to change the girl, but since I was already in the room, I felt bad for the girl if I just walked out and asked for a change.

AND finally I was wondering if there are anyone who wants to meet up for a drink and go to an anma or a RLD in Seoul because I'm just here for a holiday and I'm finding it hard to meet people due to a lack of knowledge on where to meet people who are interested in the RLD as much as I am =)

I'm a 21yo full korean who live in Australia and just want to meet anyone whos needs a buddy in visiting the RLD!

Pm me or something please LOL

[Looking Inrok]

Hey smart Ass. I DID RTFF! Nothing came up. Been mongering more longer then you so always offered information on my trip. I you have nothing to offer. Shut itThere are plenty of posts about the Millenium. I've seen them over the years pop up here and there.

So, like Coitus said, RTFF.

And by the way, when you come into a new forum for a city / place you're not familiar, it's not customary for you to be a dick to the long time members of that area.

[Hairy Wonder]

Hi guys stumbled upon this site looking for advice on how to enjoy korea!

I'm a 21yo full korean who live in Australia and just want to meet anyone whos needs a buddy in visiting the RLD! Z.

The best advice I can think of, is quit trying to go the the places that foreigners go to. If you are full blooded Korean, and can speak it, go to the Korean only places. You have a much better chance of getting laid by many beauties in Korea than most of us obvious foreigners have.

If that doesn't work, leave Korea and go someplace where your money will get you much more than in Korea. Many full time expats in Korea save their money and go to Thailand or Philippines. For the price of 3 or 4 anma / RLD / hooker hill visits, you can buy a ticket to one of those places, and get laid 10 times as much for that amount again. And the added benefit is that you do get to choose the girl you want!

IMHO.

HW

[Gildo]

I'm a 21yo full korean who live in Australia and just want to meet anyone whos needs a buddy in visiting the RLD!

Pm me or something please LOLSince you're already in Korea, I don't mind helping out a fellow gyopo, but you'll need to buy a subscription to get PMs enabled. Most RLD can be easily found if you search the site: Cheonho, Yongsan, Miari. 588, and you'll easily get service if you can speak Korean. I recommend Cheonho. 70k short time. 140k / hr. Since you're 21 you can probably get 2 pops in an hour easily. BBFS available from most of the girls if desired.

You can't choose at most of the anma places, but it's ok to ask for another girl. For an interesting anma experience, go to 'Hue' Anma near the Renaissance Hotel in between Yeoksam and Seolleung station. The name is in Korean, hue is the pronunciation, can't seem to type in Korean. They have a silhouette (sill-roo-at korean pronunciation) choice event during weekday afternoons. You go to the girls waiting room and choose 2 from whoever is free at the moment. You see their faces, not sure why it's called a silhouette choice. The reviewer I read said there were 9 girls in the room. You take the 2 girls to the room and one will ride you for a few pumps while the other licks your body, then they will change positions. Afterwards, you pick the girl you want and have the typical anma service with her. 200k + whatever the event charge is (probably 20-30k).

[Rewsna]

Went to Itaewon, and man, it's the low of the low. I almost threw up just lookin at the pickins.

Went to 588 and they had a few good ones, but not good enough so I passed. I got a taxi to Miari.

Miari is the best. However, the anmas only accept koreans. And I had to be careful that my american accent didn't make them suscipious. Best service and best looks.

[Firebird]

There are plenty of posts about the Millenium. I've seen them over the years pop up here and there.

So, like Coitus said, RTFF.

And by the way, when you come into a new forum for a city / place you're not familiar, it's not customary for you to be a dick to the long time members of that area. Plenty of posts? You don't think I did my homework by searching the Forum as I always do before a trip. Yup. There is one recent post concerning a massage place near the Milllennium and couple "old". "stale" posts from 2010. Hmmm. I guess you call that a lot of information. No problem. I'll find my way. Since you."expert" of Korea feel to big to provide "friendly" information. In any case I wish you a fine day.

Just came back from week's worth of mongering in Prague and heading out for more fun in Hong Kong

[Firebird]

There are plenty of posts about the Millenium. I've seen them over the years pop up here and there.

So, like Coitus said, RTFF.

And by the way, when you come into a new forum for a city / place you're not familiar, it's not customary for you to be a dick to the long time members of that area. Plenty of posts? You don't think I did my homework by searching the Forum as I always do before a trip. Yup. There is one recent post concerning a massage place near the Milllennium and couple "old"."stale" posts from 2010. Hmmm. I guess you call that a lot of information. No problem. I'll find my way. Since you."expert" of Korea feel to big to provide "friendly" information. In any case I wish you a fine day.

Just came back from week's worth of mongering in Prague and heading out for more fun in Hong Kong

[Coitus68]

Hey smart Ass. I DID RTFF! Nothing came up.How would any of us know you did, judging by the question you asked. When you ask a newbie question, prepared to get the response all newbies get.


Been mongering more longer then youSeriously doubt it, son.


I you have nothing to offer. Shut itI guess you didn't actually RTFF, or you would have noticed my post a few weeks back. Your kind of attitude will get you a whole lot of nothing as far as future advice and recommendations go.

Thankfully, I share my info mostly through PMs, so entitled choads like you don't get any.

[JimJim005]

When you ask a newbie question, prepared to get the response all newbies get.Maybe if this forum had 'stickies' and we could create individual threads for each topic, we wouldn't have to read the same newbie questions over and over again. Instead, all posts, no matter what the content, gets put in one massive thread. Who is going to read through 300 pages of the forum just to find the answer they are looking for? Why can't this forum have a sticky where we can post an FAQ answering most newbie questions? And why can't we create individual threads LIKE EVERY OTHER FORUM ON THE INTERNET! If we had these two things, I bet there would be less newbie questions posted here, and more posts with worthwhile content.

[Zarcady]

Cheers for replying! I didn't know I had to subscribe to get the PMs enabled. Nevertheless I subscribed and its telling me I need to wait 24 hours for the account to be activated LOL!

Anyway I appreciate your offer and would love to meet up for a drink and experience the real Seoul haha.

I guess what people say about needing a friend to get around is true!

I really want to find and bang a 9/10 or even a 10/10 girl while I'm here because I can never find any decent korean chicks in Australia to my liking and I hope you can find it in your heart to help out a young fledgling experience the best night of his life in Korea here!

I realise that these places can kind of be a hit and miss with the chicks and since I'm still a uni student with a budget left of around 1000000 won, I can't really go out every night to randomly expect a really fine young lady of my korean dreams haha! So I would really need your experience around here =D.

So Drop me a pm please!

[Kimchi Warrior]

Plenty of posts? You don't think I did my homework by searching the Forum as I always do before a trip. Yup. There is one recent post concerning a massage place near the Milllennium and couple "old"."stale" posts from 2010. Hmmm. I guess you call that a lot of information. No problem. I'll find my way. Since you."expert" of Korea feel to big to provide "friendly" information. In any case I wish you a fine day.

Just came back from week's worth of mongering in Prague and heading out for more fun in Hong KongI guess we'll have to take your word for it, since you haven't posted any informative accounts of your purported escapades in Czecho. Or elsewhere for that matter; I've cursorily checked your post history and there's almost nothing of substance, in fact; just peremptory requests for information from people in the know (whom you sometimes but not always have the curtesy to acknowledge). And just how would you, as an outsider, know that a report in this section is "stale". In fact, some of the information in my own post about just how to get to the Hill from the Millennium regarding specific providers is out of date, but I'm not inclined to update it for an ill-mannered lout like you.

[Kimchi Warrior]

Maybe if this forum had 'stickies' and we could create individual threads for each topic, we wouldn't have to read the same newbie questions over and over again. Instead, all posts, no matter what the content, gets put in one massive thread. Who is going to read through 300 pages of the forum just to find the answer they are looking for? Why can't this forum have a sticky where we can post an FAQ answering most newbie questions? And why can't we create individual threads LIKE EVERY OTHER FORUM ON THE INTERNET! If we had these two things, I bet there would be less newbie questions posted here, and more posts with worthwhile content.Search function, anyone?

That being said, good suggestions.

[Abuasian1]

I really want to find and bang a 9/10 or even a 10/10 girl while I'm here because I can never find any decent korean chicks in Australia to my liking and I hope you can find it in your heart to help out a young fledgling experience the best night of his life in Korea here!All the hot girls are found in anmas, officetels, and karaoke now. There's a reason why you don't see many young Korean adults going to glass shop RLDs. It has been all about anmas and officetels for the past few years now. All my Korean friends told me the glass shop RLDs were heaven during the early 2000s, but now the quality has decreased tremendously.

If you really want to get with a 9/10 or 10/10 girl and if you're tall, good-looking, rich, and know how to talk well, and you're willing to put effort and time into it, then I suggest going to clubs in Hongdae, Kangnam, or Apgujeong. If you don't fit any of those qualities, then there's no point of even trying.

[Firebird]

Well in all the years of reading this forum. And yes contributing many times via PM. I stuck my foot in my mouth this time quite deep. I guess an apology from me is warranted. No, I will not list all the countries worldwide where I enjoyed the sweet taste of woman over the last 10. 20 years.. I have the memories and you would not believe me anyway.

And YES. I did RTFF. As I do before every trip. WOW. How I hate that abbreviation. I was upset that after RTFF and doing the seach I came up empty handed. So again I stand before you humble.

Oh Coitus. You called me your "son". You give me "energy" since just passing 57 years "young" and still quite active with the talent. You must be sort of be my "dad". At a ripe age of?

Anyway chears to all, I willl find my onw way as I always do. One. Two. Perhaps three a night.

Enjoy and take care.

Firebird.

[Zarcady]

All the hot girls are found in anmas, officetels, and karaoke now. There's a reason why you don't see many young Korean adults going to glass shop RLDs. It has been all about anmas and officetels for the past few years now. All my Korean friends told me the glass shop RLDs were heaven during the early 2000s, but now the quality has decreased tremendously.

If you really want to get with a 9/10 or 10/10 girl and if you're tall, good-looking, rich, and know how to talk well, and you're willing to put effort and time into it, then I suggest going to clubs in Hongdae, Kangnam, or Apgujeong. If you don't fit any of those qualities, then there's no point of even trying. Hi there.

I just don't have the time to go clubbing since I'm not staying here long but thats why I'm willing to put in my money to experience what Seoul has to offer without the chase. I read here on the forum that there are people out there that has experienced in what their opinion to be a 8 or even a 9 out of 10 for as little as 120, 000 and I've come to the conclusion that these beauties EXIST in not just the expensive officetels or anmas but even in the RLDs IF one knows where to go and knows some connections, that's why I asked the experienced and senior members to help a little youngling like me experience the night of his life! =D.

Anyway I have experienced at Anma at Yeoksam for 200000 and the girl wasn't to my liking and I was too embarassed to ask if I could change.

And yesterday me and a couple of Swede guys went to the RLD in Hwe Hyun and as you guys all know it was raining yesterday and it was on the Thursday night so there were like. Urgg I don't even want to remember. Then we met these guys at the end of the street that were offering to take foreigners into a motel for 70 short time and 120 (for me. 130 for the foreigners) for an hour. So we went there and to cut the experience abit short, I first got a really ugly chick so I summoned up my courage to ask for a change and the second chick was pretty cute but not a knockout so she turned off the light and got naked then suddenly she's like "Why are you shaven?" And I was like WTF? So apparently if you shave in Korea it means you got like a disease (she specifically mentioned lice, which can not only exist in your hair but your pubes as well. Never really thought about it until then) so she was like nope I can't do this so she left. And afterwards since the 2 girls I got afterwards was not hot and were kind of relunctant so I just told the Ajjumma to let me get a free pass for next time. So she gave me her business card and told me to come back with friends and they'll get a discount as well.

I'm not sure if I'm suppose to reveal the details of the place on this forum so I won't LOL.

About the question before. 180cm, average looks but our family is not bad, my sister is a dentist and we have a couple of properties and I myself is a Pharmacy student. I haven't been clubbing here but I can usually hook up when I go clubbing in Australia so maybe I can pick up here but I really just want to find a beautiful korean pussy to bang. And I'm sorry if this sounds vulgar but I'm 21 and most people at 21 are pretty horny so please don't hold it against me!

Anyway if anyone wants to meet up for a beer and show me around I welcome all PMs! I'm going to give Gildo a call since he was nice enough to offer to show me around!

And can anyone PLEASE elaborate on this NO PUBE thing? I guess it kind of explains why almost all the asians don't shave. Whereas since I grew up overseas, I thought shaving was a cleaner way to go. And looks better

[Le Lion]

My recent ventures on the hill went to a girl called Candy, at a place opposite to Moonshine but I don't remember the name of it, she was alone in there on a late Tuesday night. Very cute girl with short hair and fake boobs (she claimed they were real though) and said she was 30 years old. She gave me a lap dance while having my beer, lots of touching and kissing before she asked me for any money, which I think is nice. Perhaps not the most beautiful girl around, but nice and good BJ skills. FS for 100. 000 won.

The next one I tried out was a girl named Sue (or maybe Soo, not sure about the spelling) at Peach Phuzz. Young and very cute girl with a great body and nice boobs, she seemed a little tired though and wasn't too enthusiastic so I settled for a HJ at 50. 000 won.

I saw a girl with a nice set of boobs in the bar called SS (or maybe just one S?) on the top of the hill, but when I came back the door was closed. Anybody have anything on her?

[Mookman]

Hi everyone,

I'll throw this out for anybody that is down. I'm coming up from Busan to Seoul for the weekend. I'm here for a short business trip, haven't done much here in Korea but I would really like to experience some 9 or 10 rated girls. Any gyopos down to go to a room salon in a upscale area. Everyone pays their own way. I've never went to a room salon and after hearing the stories, I want the experience. Tired of the so-so ness of of a rub and tug from an average girl. This would invite would have to go out to only gyopos cause from what I gather, some of the upscale places will not accept foreigners, maybe if things work out this weekend, next weekend, we can take some non-Koreans, if the place allows. My Korean is passable enough even though it's not the greatest since I grew up in the States. PM me.

[Jberlin]

All the hot girls are found in anmas, officetels, and karaoke now. There's a reason why you don't see many young Korean adults going to glass shop RLDs. It has been all about anmas and officetels for the past few years now. All my Korean friends told me the glass shop RLDs were heaven during the early 2000s, but now the quality has decreased tremendously.

If you really want to get with a 9/10 or 10/10 girl and if you're tall, good-looking, rich, and know how to talk well, and you're willing to put effort and time into it, then I suggest going to clubs in Hongdae, Kangnam, or Apgujeong. If you don't fit any of those qualities, then there's no point of even trying. Any body can introduce officetels telephone no. Or how to get the service around Gangnam area for me? I have tried to get these kind of info for a long time and did not get anything. Really appreciated.

JB

[Psplay]

Hi all,

Wondering if any on the forum have had any experiences around Kkachisan (Line 5/2). I'm staying there for two weeks on a street full of Love Hotels. I have had a look up and down the street (via Daum) , noticed this place "White Sports Massage".

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=166.77846486599722&tilt=-3.0080284244368207&zoom=0&panoid=1016076889&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_MAP&map_hybrid=false&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=%EC%84%9C%EC%84%9C%EC%9A%B8%ED%98%B8%EC%88%98%EA%B3%B5%EC%9B%90&urlX=464496&urlY=1119645&urlLevel=3.

Wondering if the name "White" has any special significance? Will be happy to take one for the team to find out either way, but any bit of advice would be welcome!

[DeepThroat]

Can anyone reccommend a decent barbershop place that gives a full massage with happy ending? Anything around 70, 000 that takes foreigners? Am tired of ducking my head in to see old hags and wondering if there is a younger woman or if that toothless bag is going to try to rub me down.

[DeepThroat]

And how do I ask if they have a young lady?

Thanks!

[Le Lion]

Hi all,

Wondering if any on the forum have had any experiences around Kkachisan (Line 5/2). I'm staying there for two weeks on a street full of Love Hotels. I have had a look up and down the street (via Daum) , noticed this place "White Sports Massage".

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=166.77846486599722&tilt=-3.0080284244368207&zoom=0&panoid=1016076889&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_MAP&map_hybrid=false&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=

%EC%84%9C%EC%84%9C%EC%9A%B8%ED%98%B8%EC%88%98%EA%B3%B5%EC%9B%90&urlX=464496&urlY=1119645&urlLevel=3.

Wondering if the name "White" has any special significance? Will be happy to take one for the team to find out either way, but any bit of advice would be welcome! That's probably a typical massage parlor where you can expect a massage with a happy ending (most likely a handjob and maybe a blowjob) but sometimes those places do offer FS. Those small bars on the bottom floor are hostess bars, but you will probably not be welcomed there if you are not Korean, but you could always give it a try.

[Repartee]

I've been in Seoul for about three weeks now. I've tried two places (1) Outside Gangnam station, it was on the top floor, maybe 5th and it cost 80, 000 KRW. It was actually a really good massage but the woman (who was actually Chinese) had her clothes on the whole time and at the end of the hour gave me a pretty ridiculous HJ. (2) Was just outside the main strip of Itaewon and it was 200, 000 KRW. The massage was absolutely terrible and she wouldn't get on top so I had to do all the work. A few minutes in she told me to hurry up in Korean and it kind of ruined the experience so I told her to just finish me off with her hand and mouth.

I'm Korean American but hardly speak any Korean at all. I've yet to check out any of the RLDs here and am pretty curious about them because I've never seen one before (I'm from the US). If anyone wants to make an outing and is familiar with the RLDs around Seoul, I would love to come along.

[Mookman]

You missed us by a week, I posted last week about getting some gypos together and checking some places out. Three of us here got together and we checked out a couple of places. Maybe if the other guys are up for it again, we can get together this weekend, grab dinner and drinks and head out for the night. As a gypo, if you are going to Itaewon for action, you need some serious help. Haha.


I've been in Seoul for about three weeks now. I've tried two places (1) Outside Gangnam station, it was on the top floor, maybe 5th and it cost 80, 000 KRW. It was actually a really good massage but the woman (who was actually Chinese) had her clothes on the whole time and at the end of the hour gave me a pretty ridiculous HJ. (2) Was just outside the main strip of Itaewon and it was 200, 000 KRW. The massage was absolutely terrible and she wouldn't get on top so I had to do all the work. A few minutes in she told me to hurry up in Korean and it kind of ruined the experience so I told her to just finish me off with her hand and mouth.

I'm Korean American but hardly speak any Korean at all. I've yet to check out any of the RLDs here and am pretty curious about them because I've never seen one before (I'm from the US). If anyone wants to make an outing and is familiar with the RLDs around Seoul, I would love to come along.

[Zarcady]

I've been in Seoul for about three weeks now. I've tried two places (1) Outside Gangnam station, it was on the top floor, maybe 5th and it cost 80, 000 KRW. It was actually a really good massage but the woman (who was actually Chinese) had her clothes on the whole time and at the end of the hour gave me a pretty ridiculous HJ. (2) Was just outside the main strip of Itaewon and it was 200, 000 KRW. The massage was absolutely terrible and she wouldn't get on top so I had to do all the work. A few minutes in she told me to hurry up in Korean and it kind of ruined the experience so I told her to just finish me off with her hand and mouth.

I'm Korean American but hardly speak any Korean at all. I've yet to check out any of the RLDs here and am pretty curious about them because I've never seen one before (I'm from the US). If anyone wants to make an outing and is familiar with the RLDs around Seoul, I would love to come along. Haha I was one of people who got together with Mookman last week. And overall was a KILLER of a night and definitely was a good night for me anyway. I feel bad about Mookman as he didn't find any ladies especially attractive to him and ended up going home early. Me and another who was with us ended up finishing off the night with a bang and found these pretty cute chicks and I had quite a blast.

I'm willing to go monger around Seoul anytime so if anyone else want to make a plan, PM me! As for Repartee, I think you will need subscription enabled to get the PMs and I'm glad as hell I subscribed as I met a couple of wonderful people and had an AMAZING night that ended up with me popping twice =D

[Repartee]

Haha I was one of people who got together with Mookman last week. And overall was a KILLER of a night and definitely was a good night for me anyway. I feel bad about Mookman as he didn't find any ladies especially attractive to him and ended up going home early. Me and another who was with us ended up finishing off the night with a bang and found these pretty cute chicks and I had quite a blast.

I'm willing to go monger around Seoul anytime so if anyone else want to make a plan, PM me! As for Repartee, I think you will need subscription enabled to get the PMs and I'm glad as hell I subscribed as I met a couple of wonderful people and had an AMAZING night that ended up with me popping twice =DI did subscribe, I have the PMs enabled now.

I'm glad to hear you guys had a good time and hopefully Mookman will find someone that tickles his fancy next time. But I'm definitely down for the next outing if you guys decide to go again!

[Mookman]

Yeah, nobody really caught my eye last weekend but none the less, it was nice getting a good tour of the various RLDs in Seoul. It's also just less creepy and safer going with a bunch of people rather than solo. And being that we're all gyopos, we blend in better. Haha. I'll know by the end of the week if I can come up, it's my last weekend here and my Korean guests are insisting on taking me out to sight see, so I have to see if I can get out of it. If anybody else wants to join up, send us a PM.

I left the other guys early at 3am cause my hotel was close and it would of taken too long to go back to the first RLD we went to and come back. This time, I guess I will sleep at a jimjibang or something, the hotel room was a waste, just sleeping there for a couple of hours. Haha.

[Dissolved Boy]

It's been a while. I've enjoyed reading everyone's (productive) posts. Anyway, I thought I'd share one.

I haven't mongered in while, but Cheongnyangni has a special place in my heart. If your back is to the department store, then on the left side of the RLD is a small row where one larger girl works (I don't know if she's still there, though). I wasn't getting any attention from the Sticks, and she was friendly, so I took her.

Even though she was a little bigger, I thought she was a cute and young woman; definitely had big boobs. Anyway, wearing a school girl skirt, she asked for 70, 000W. She left to shower / change and came back to clean me up. She then gave a slow and DEEP BBBJ. I won't say that I'm the biggest in the world, but I was impressed that she went down so far. The only other person to take me down like that was Cherry in Itaewon (I need to go visit her soon.).

I was ready for more. She put the condom on and got on top. As soon as she sat down on "me", she shivered a little bit. I felt pretty good about myself. LOL. Once again, she took it all the way down with no "too big" or "Ouch"s like other girls. She rode well too, and genuinely seemed like she was enjoying herself. I lastly got her into doggystyle and with her pushing back on me, I couldn't hold for long. She was a little disappointed. I guess she was enjoying herself!

If I had more cash on me, I would've tipped her. She was great. I haven't been back there in about 8 months, as I went back home. Now that I'm back, I hope to see her again. If you aren't simply out for 9s and 10s, I recommend that you see her. She's friendly and talented.

I've found that the 9s and 10s are more about looks over skill anyway. I've been with hte infamous Soo-Ae and while she was / is great, I've found better talent and experiences for cheaper.

[Abuasian1]

It's been a while. I've enjoyed reading everyone's (productive) posts. Anyway, I thought I'd share one.

I haven't mongered in while, but Cheongnyangni has a special place in my heart. If your back is to the department store, then on the left side of the RLD is a small row where one larger girl works (I don't know if she's still there, though). I wasn't getting any attention from the Sticks, and she was friendly, so I took her. I'm assuming you mean the small row on the right where if you walk pass the glass shops you will see a hospital and a club. Was she the girl in the first glass shop to the left and with brown hair (I think it was brown)? I asked her if she does titfucking but she said no, so I didn't have a go with her. Unfortunately, she doesn't work there anymore. The last time I've seen her was around mid 2010 and I visit Cheongnyangni from time to time. I figured business for her is way slower than the other girls since Korean men mainly prefer thin pretty girls.

[Dissolved Boy]

I'm assuming you mean the small row on the right where if you walk pass the glass shops you will see a hospital and a club. Was she the girl in the first glass shop to the left and with brown hair (I think it was brown)? I asked her if she does titfucking but she said no, so I didn't have a go with her. Unfortunately, she doesn't work there anymore. The last time I've seen her was around mid 2010 and I visit Cheongnyangni from time to time. I figured business for her is way slower than the other girls since Korean men mainly prefer thin pretty girls.Sorry, I actually meant on the RIGHT side of the RLD. I've been to the left side; what you're talking about. That side, especially the ones with the red doors are used by fat and / or old ladies. I've never gone that far. Anyway, the lady I'm talking about is one the RIGHT side of the RLD. I may go there next weekend for a little recon. If I see her, I'll repost.

[Byung]

I was the king of RLDs a few years ago. So just hold on a bit. I'll be in Korea in five months.


I've been in Seoul for about three weeks now. I've tried two places (1) Outside Gangnam station, it was on the top floor, maybe 5th and it cost 80, 000 KRW. It was actually a really good massage but the woman (who was actually Chinese) had her clothes on the whole time and at the end of the hour gave me a pretty ridiculous HJ. (2) Was just outside the main strip of Itaewon and it was 200, 000 KRW. The massage was absolutely terrible and she wouldn't get on top so I had to do all the work. A few minutes in she told me to hurry up in Korean and it kind of ruined the experience so I told her to just finish me off with her hand and mouth.

I'm Korean American but hardly speak any Korean at all. I've yet to check out any of the RLDs here and am pretty curious about them because I've never seen one before (I'm from the US). If anyone wants to make an outing and is familiar with the RLDs around Seoul, I would love to come along.

[Dissolved Boy]

I went down there a couple of weeks back on a Sunday afternoon to see if it was still up and running after I saw that Yongsan was about gone.

I walked around and talked to several Mama-san; some said I could I have sex twice and some said only once. Being that the price was the same (70, 000W) , I chose the former. After about 15 minutes of looking around the area, I decided on a girl who was a little bigger by Korean standards but perfectly nice in the Western world (slimmer than the one in Cheongnyanggi).

She came in friendly, cleaned me up and went down on me. Unfortunately, her technique wasn't THAT great, but she took direction well. She also let me feel around and finger her a little while she was going at it.

After a minute or so, I got a little bored and asked to get down to it. She put on the condom and got on top. She was average, but once again, I was happy that she wasn't crying about being in pain. I finished and relaxed until the second round.

Round 2:

I had more stamina here so we did a few positions. After the BBBJ to get us both in the mood, she got on the bed and immediately went into the doggy position. I was like,"Ok!". After that, I went into missionary and then to cowgirl. At this point, she was starting to hurt, so she apologized and got off. I felt sympathy for her and didn't make a fuss at all. She went down on me and switched back and forth to HJ to finish me off.

As I left, the Mama-san gave me a card to call her, and I think I will in near future. HyunJung, I think her name was, was pretty good. I guess I won't pound her so hard next time and take it easier on her though.

[Ezinho]

Hello, Seoul thread. I'm headed back to Korea and this time I'll be in the Gangnam area. Can anyone give any updated info on Belle, regarding price, quality of girls, etc?

Also, what about Cool, is it still foreigner unfriendly? It's hard to belive a handjob joint won't allow foreigners.

Any other foreigner friendly places in Gangnam?

[HeavyFuel]

Hi,

Will be in Seoul for a few days this month. Any suggestions for foreigner friendly activity? Will be at the InterCon Grand Parnas. Prefer within walking distance.

TIA,

H

[Skylar Parsons]

Hey, thought I would post about what happened to me tonight. Curious if anyone else has had similar experiences.

Decided to go and try a massage place tonight and see what I was able to get. So I walked down toward Sinlim station, where I'd see a bunch of them clustered around.

Anyway the first one I went to said no foreigners, and the next one seemed like they would take a foreigner but the guy said they were booked for the night and you have to make a reservation. (BTW I'm write, but I speak pretty passable Korean).

Anyway at the third one I went to the lady at the front said okay and asked for 90, 000 won. I gave it to her and she led me to a room to change into the pants they provide, and then showed me to the shower room. When I came out she said there were cops outside trying to get in (I'd heard some banging on the door) , and she told me to hurry up and get dressed and go sit in her waiting area with the TV and pretend I was a guest instead of a customer. (Which the police would absolutely never believe.)

I was in there waiting for about 15 minutes. Her and one other girl were kind of freaking out and on the phone to some guy trying to get him to come over and fix it. After a while she told the other girl to just leave quickly, and then she told me to follow her. She turned off all the lights and locked the door and I followed her down the stairs and out onto the street. The cops were sitting right there with their lights on, but they didn't say anything to us.

Anyway I didn't know what was going on, but she said to follow her. She crossed the street and turned into an alley and I realized she was taking me to a different sports massage place. When we arrived the girl from before was sitting there waiting.

Anyway, she showed me to a booth and I changed clothes, but then the owner came in. She said the cops were going around to different places in the neighborhood, and she wanted to just shut down for the night. Gave me my money back. She said enforcement was really bad lately, and actually told me it would be better if I didn't try to go there. Which is not what I'd expect the owner to say, why'know?

Anyway, don't know if somebody saw me go in and called in a report, or if it was just a coincidence. But the cops got there about 10 minutes after I did, so I dunno.

Not the experience I was looking for.

[Mingman]

Last Friday Apil 29, 7pm, RLD all shut down by police. End up going timesquare for dinner

[Coitus68]

don't know if somebody saw me go in and called in a report, or if it was just a coincidence. But the cops got there about 10 minutes after I did, so I dunno.10 minutes? Coincidence.

Korean cops don't arrive 10 minutes after they get a call for ANYthing much less a routine massagee payola trip.

[Bradley1]

Hi,

I am finally going to Korea and I am a gyopo and can speak Korean.

Can anyone give a brief rundown for my options? Before you say RTFF, I have!

I just want to know what the scene currently is, because some people say the RLDs are gone, and then I see some people say they still exist, and so on and so on.

Hopefully Halycon can fill me and the rest of us in.

[Dissolved Boy]

Went there for Children's Day, after I tried to find my old chick at Cheonyanggi. She wasn't there, and every woman I approached shooed me away accept for the 40K old chicks. I may go back to be sure she's gone, but I honestly feel like, if you're not Asian, Cheonyanggi SUCKS. There's no reason to go.

I walked around in Miari for about 15 minutes, looking at various ladies. It was my first time at night, so the ladies were in wedding dresses or something. I went to about six rooms, and I made a rule about how to choose. Appearance is of course important, but their enthusiasm is important. I saw girls turn their eyes down when they saw me. Some just started at me with a " it's a shitty job but somebody's got to do it" face on. I passed on all of them, leaving angry and confused Mama's. I went to two rooms where the ladies were excited to see me, and I actually felt like they would take care of me.

I decided on one girl. She seemed younger than most. As it turned out, she was 23 (at least that's what she said). She didn't have the biggest boobs, but she had a handful. The best thing was her butt. She was thick, but definitely not fat. Best of all, she was friendly, as if she wasn't afraid to touch a foreigner. I'm only giving my attention to people who give me that impression.

She was surprised at my size. However, isn't of saying it in fear, she was enthusiastic, giving me a thumbs up sign. Unfortunately, like the last girl, the BJ was boring. She had suction but she really didn't get anything down. I started feeling around quickly, and that prompted her to get the condom. Maybe she would've done better if I hadn't touched her.

She wanted me in missionary and took everything pretty well. When we went into doggy, she jumped a little bit, but soon after everything was fine. She was getting warm and I lost it there.

The Mama san tried to tell me that the price was 80K because of inflation of some crap, but I argued her down to 70. I did tip my girl this time. I got her number. I'll be back.

[Dissolved Boy]

Miari is obviously cheaper and you can get more out of the ladies there. For example, having sex twice for 70K. The ladies are mostly willing to deal with you, but some are quite mechanical. The skill varies too as does how these ladies look. Some looks decent, but others are just boring.

Itaewon is far more expensive, but from my experience, and people like Kimchi Warrior, if you establish loyalty and good relations, you can get more out of them. I used to see a couple of women on the Hill who I got to have sex with as many times as I could cram in an hour or so at the same price some men only paid for one pop (I'm not telling who though). Also the skill and appearance quality is better here.

I haven't been to Itaewon since I've been back, but it'll happen soon I'm sure. I want to see if my old favorites are there as the ones in Yongsan and Cheonyaggi are gone.

In short, if you're an average guy living here, go shop around in Miari, saying "Du-Bon" (two times) and get your money's worth. If you're a visitor for a couple of days, or have a birthday, go all out on Itaewon.

[ShinichiOta]

but I honestly feel like, if you're not Asian, Cheonyanggi SUCKS. There's no reason to go.I've seen this said all over the forum, and frankly I don't understand why so many people are having trouble. I'm a 6'0 tall hairy white American with very broken Korean. During my time in Seoul, I went to Cheonyanggi three times, and all three times it took less than 15 minutes of exploration to find a hot girl willing to have me a customer.

Yes, you will get shooed away by some of the girls, but at least a third of them tried to catch me eye each evening. With a selection like that, I was in freaking heaven. I didn't even bother going to Itaewon or Miari (though I'm certainly going to on my next trip).

[Intriguitee]

In Hongdae.

There are alot of "Kiss Bangs" and "Thai Massages".

I assume in Kiss Bangs you only get to kiss and touch, and Thai Massages are basically a nude body to body massage right?

What places do FS in Hongdae? Any suggestions?

[Zarcady]

I actually tried a Thai Massage yesterday in Suwon and after asking if there was any 'service' that I can pay abit extra for I was given a repeated 'no' by the manager there.

But during my massage the thai lady (I think she was philipino not thai) kept brushing her hand against my johnson and giggling (I was wearing a gown, not nude) then after a few brushes she whispered in my ear if I wanted a HJ for what I assumed was 30000 won (3 fingers up) and I immediately said yes.

So she was giving me a HJ but I was extremely drunk at that time and no matter how much she tried I wouldn't come LOL. Was abit embarassing for me actually since I felt abit sorry for her and I don't think she was allowed to do these things technically since everytime she thought someone was going to come in the room, she would immediately put my pants back on and start massaging me. Then we would have to start from the beginning.

I was allowed to touch her breasts as much as I wanted but she wouldn't take off her bra so I was forced to get a feel from underneath. Again, it felt like it was very much a secret sort of thing and I don't think she would do it for anyone. I'm quite young and I got on with her quite well since I speak a little bit of malay and we joked around a little bit so definitely you won't normally get these kind of services unless you get along fairly well and there was no way to get anything else other than a HJ. I tried to get her to give me a BJ but she wouldn't go for it, let alone a FS.

And after an incredibly long HJ, she went to licking my nipples and biting my ears to get me abit more excited which kind of did work but yeh. I think it was at least a good 40 minutes before I finally came. Maybe more because I paid for a 2 hour session.

[Hairy Wonder]

I actually tried a Thai Massage yesterday in Suwon.

But during my massage the thai lady (I think she was philipino not thai).

I'm quite young and I got on with her quite well since I speak a little bit of malay and we joked around a little bit. I'm a bit confused by your report. You were at a Thai massage shop in Korea, with a provider that you think was Filipino, but you joked with her by speaking Malay? In my limited experience, I have mistakenly assumed that some Thai girls were Filipino, and vice-versa. But at the Thai massage shops I have been to in Korea, the providers have been very much Thai. And they spoke more Korean than any other language except their own. Maybe the alcohol you had before the session caused more problems than the lack of ability to cum quickly. :D

HW

[Coitus68]

But at the Thai massage shops I have been to in Korea, the providers have been very much Thai.Then the massage places are getting brave. It is very much illegal for a non-Korean to work in a massage parlour. I know because I tried to open up my own a few years ago (I am a licenced RMT back in Canada). The way the law is written, foreigners cannot work in nor own a massage business. The rationale being the gov't wants to prevent [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) of foreign women to staff the rub-and-tugs.

[Gildo]

Can someone post some more HJ places like Cool and Belle? I know theres Angel right up the street, but how about in other areas besides the Bang Bang area? I heard theres tons in Seoul. Surprisingly only people talkin about cool and belle on this board. I don't go to belle anymore since the quality of girls went down.I'll just put these up here just in case anyone wants to feel like calling up these places and asking. Sorry but they don't have their specific locations, but maybe if your Korean is good enough you guys might get lucky. I was going to put an approximate location for one of my favorite places, but they seem to have been busted :/

[Ezinho]

Can someone post some more HJ places like Cool and Belle? I know theres Angel right up the street, but how about in other areas besides the Bang Bang area? I heard theres tons in Seoul. Surprisingly only people talkin about cool and belle on this board. I don't go to belle anymore since the quality of girls went down.I'm back in Seoul now and I just got back from the Sporex on the 8th floor of the Koreana hotel. It's been posted on here before, but that was over a year ago. The price for entrance to the sauna is 18K, and the massage with handjob cost me 110K. My masseuse was a little older than the ones I got the last time I was there (over a year ago) but she was still pretty cute and she gave a fantastic massage and really beat my dick good at the end. It's pricey, though.

I'll have to check out some spots in Gangnam sometime, but as you mentioned, the last time I went to Belle the quality was quite lower than before, so I stopped going too.

Forgot to mention I strolled up the Hill last night. Very little turnover from last year it seems. I noticed a couple bars no longer exist. Moulin Rouge is gone and in its place is either a travel agency or an Arab restaurant; I can't remember which. Anyone know which bar Nara works at now?

Another question, any info on the girl with tats at Moon Shine bar?

[Gern]

Oh how I hate it when I type a long report and I somehow time out. Arggh! I will try to recapture my six paragraphs of thoughts. But, as Sade says,"it's never as good as the first time."

Just got back from my second consecutive night at Belle. I made two visits there the last time I was in town too. This time, as was the case last time, I am batting 1 for 2. While. 500 would be amazing in baseball, the ratio should be better in this hobby. Last night I drew a cute spinner with an adorable face, braces, and pert B-cups. The service was standard and the cuddling, Kanglish, and mutual fondling lasted until the one-hour knock. Money well spent.

Tonight I tempted fate and did not ask for the same girl (she was working). I figured I might get someone even better, but alas I did not. She wasn't terrible, but her lack of English didn't allow for any chemistry. After the perfunctory massage and other activities, we still had half-an-hour left to speak gibberish at each other. Since she wasn't cuddling and I could only go through my list of favorite Korean foods and banal pocket dictionary phrases so many times, I hit the showers early.

I am wondering if any of you locals would PM me with the names of any girls at Belle or Cool (or Cleopatra or Ivy or VIP, etc.) or other big-white-guy friendly establishments of this ilk that speak enough English, or who have enough body language communication to make the full hour enjoyable? I don't always need FS, and I love the amenities like showers and 60 minute time-frame at these places when compared to the Hill or the barren RLD wasteland in Seoul. The lower price point isn't bad either! I just want to feel like the girl and I can connect on some basic level. She doesn't have to want me, but I'd at least like the illusion of some sort of connection, however superficial and fleeting. Oh, and if she is a busty gorgeous spinner, that would be okay too. Yeah, now I am dreaming. Sorry!

As always, more details available to seniors who PM. Thanks, all. I love this thread, even when I am at home!

[Hairy Wonder]

Then the massage places are getting brave. It is very much illegal for a non-Korean to work in a massage parlour. I know because I tried to open up my own a few years ago (I am a licenced RMT back in Canada). The way the law is written, foreigners cannot work in nor own a massage business. The rationale being the gov't wants to prevent [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) of foreign women to staff the rub-and-tugs.I believe you Coitus68. I know the massage shops I went to were owned by Koreans. I'm sure there had to be some sort of pay off going on between the owners and the authorities. These massage shops were in Daegu. Some of the girls told me that they would come to Korea for only 3 months at a time and return home. They also said there were many cities around Korea where they have worked, including Incheon and Seoul.

HW

[Brian 3232]

I'll just put these up here just in case anyone wants to feel like calling up these places and asking. Sorry but they don't have their specific locations, but maybe if your Korean is good enough you guys might get lucky. I was going to put an approximate location for one of my favorite places, but they seem to have been busted :/Hey Gildo, thank you so much for posting that information. Do you think you can e-mail me those documents? I can't open the files since I don't have a membership and unfortunately can't sign up for one during the time I am here. I made an email account:

[Email address deleted by Admin]

Thank you so much again.

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[Coitus68]

I'm sure there had to be some sort of pay off going on between the owners and the authorities.Well, ALL of them have to hand out the payola. Yes, non-Koreans aren't allowed to work there by law, but neither are sighted Koreans: the only people LEGALLY allowed (technically speaking) to work in massage parlours are blind people.


Some of the girls told me that they would come to Korea for only 3 months at a time and return home.Sure. Come over on a tourist visa, work for three months, and leave before the visa expires. Even if they pay their own ticket over, they can still bank enough money in three months to make the trip worthwhile.

[Zarcady]

I'm a bit confused by your report. You were at a Thai massage shop in Korea, with a provider that you think was Filipino, but you joked with her by speaking Malay? In my limited experience, I have mistakenly assumed that some Thai girls were Filipino, and vice-versa. But at the Thai massage shops I have been to in Korea, the providers have been very much Thai. And they spoke more Korean than any other language except their own. Maybe the alcohol you had before the session caused more problems than the lack of ability to cum quickly. .

HWHaha sorry if my report confused you but I think what I reported is what happened? Or maybe I was too drunk hahaha. But yeh I'm pretty sure she told me she was Filipino but she was speaking what I'm pretty sure was thai to her friend who was massaging my friend in the same room. I lived in Malaysia for 4 years so I could speak the basics like greetings, saying thank you, counting from 1 to 10 and they loved it! Since Thailand is right next to Malaysia, I think both countries have at least a grasp of each other's languages. But yeh anyway she told me she was Filipino but she could have been anything. Anyway I apologise if my report is a little hazy, I just wrote down what I remember, which is pretty much close to nothing. Except for the fact that I couldn't come fast enough.

[I Miss Millenium]

Had been to Seoul a few years back, and had some good (and not so good) times on the Hill in Itaewan. I remember a gal named Soo-ae at Peach Phuzz giving the most amazing AR. Does anyone know if she still works there (or anywhere else)? Can anyone provide details on any other notable talent on the hill? (AR / DT / BBJCIM specialists preferred)

[Enchoo]

I met a girl at the corner of the main intersection.

She was very talkative in the beginning but later kept negotiating.

A Ten Pro (super pretty) but Service was too fast and overcharged.

Girls seem to be After performing my maneuver there was a hotter girl in another room with another guy (damn!)

Looks: 8. 5.

Service 2 (too fast, waited at the window when we finished) but BBFS.

Repeat? Maybe not.

I will try Miari or Cheonho next time.

[Jon1283]

I went to Seoul for the first time last week. I went to Itaewon (I don't know if I ever found the hill or not). I went to a couple bars. They were asking me to by champage at 600, 000 won to take a girl home with me. Can anyone tell me if this is normal?

I am planning on heading out to Korea this Friday. Would love to see the mongering sites around 1100 pm If anyone is interested pm me. I would greatly appreciate the assistance.

[Anord4]

Went there for Children's Day, after I tried to find my old chick at Cheonyanggi. She wasn't there, and every woman I approached shooed me away accept for the 40K old chicks. I may go back to be sure she's gone, but I honestly feel like, if you're not Asian, Cheonyanggi SUCKS. There's no reason to go.

I walked around in Miari for about 15 minutes, looking at various ladies. It was my first time at night, so the ladies were in wedding dresses or something. I went to about six rooms, and I made a rule about how to choose. Appearance is of course important, but their enthusiasm is important. I saw girls turn their eyes down when they saw me. Some just started at me with a " it's a shitty job but somebody's got to do it" face on. I passed on all of them, leaving angry and confused Mama's. I went to two rooms where the ladies were excited to see me, and I actually felt like they would take care of me.

I decided on one girl. She seemed younger than most. As it turned out, she was 23 (at least that's what she said). She didn't have the biggest boobs, but she had a handful. The best thing was her butt. She was thick, but definitely not fat. Best of all, she was friendly, as if she wasn't afraid to touch a foreigner. I'm only giving my attention to people who give me that impression.

She was surprised at my size. However, isn't of saying it in fear, she was enthusiastic, giving me a thumbs up sign. Unfortunately, like the last girl, the BJ was boring. She had suction but she really didn't get anything down. I started feeling around quickly, and that prompted her to get the condom. Maybe she would've done better if I hadn't touched her.

She wanted me in missionary and took everything pretty well. When we went into doggy, she jumped a little bit, but soon after everything was fine. She was getting warm and I lost it there.

The Mama san tried to tell me that the price was 80K because of inflation of some crap, but I argued her down to 70. I did tip my girl this time. I got her number. I'll be back.Can you PM her number? I am going there next week!

[AmericanThief]

Wow this sucks. I can't even get the $19. 99 subscription because the service is down. Why is posting email address' not allowed here? I really want those files Gildo posted!

Gildo, any way you can copy and paste the text from the word files onto here? Specifically interested in the fetish, gyeonji HJ / BJ, gangnam HJ / BJ.

Thanks a lot! Can you read Hangul? Because the files are in Korean and unless you can speak Korean the phone numbers aren't going to do you any good either.

Just do a Naver or Daum search and you can find the same info.

[FisherKorea]

I stay in Suwon area. If you guys come to RLD in Suwon, let me know about it.

I am Asian but with limited Korean language would be great if someone know the Korean come along.

Just PM or sent me cell number. I can text you guysI think I have no privilege to PM you. Today evening I was roaming all around Suwon RLD, couldn't find any good chicks so came home without any action. If you are here mail to [Email address deleted by Admin]. Hope this will help us each other. Even I don't know much Korean but I can manage with things. Mods please delete this msg if its inappropriate.

With thanks and regards.

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[Jojo407]

I normally don't post much.

I went to see Soo-Ae, or Soo Ae at Peach Fuzz in Itaewon. Not what I expected. She didn't live up to the hype. She's a don't repeat from me. No AR like promised. I specifically asked for it and she agreed but didn't do it. She told me she doesn't. Probably lying. Could be a racial thing. I won't repeat her. She couldn't follow simple directions when she was providing to me, other than the no AR thing.

FYI Na Na of Cabin in Itaewon has relocated to Texas on the hill.

I visited her a couple of times and she lives up to the hype.

Cherry at Happy Days is great, she charges 80, 20 less than Soo-Ae or Na Na for a BBBJ to completion.

I really wanted AR from that girl Soo-Ae like nobody's business. If you know of a girl that does so, reply to this post and let me know. I tried to find the infamous Miya on the top of the hill but it was a wild goose hunt. A no go.

I went to 588 and was successful with a heavier set girl that's in the back row. One of the only two that would speak to me / engage me. She was great. Seventy for everything I wanted. Nice smile, full rack, and a good attitude, what more can I ask for?

Thai Massage Parlors have full service on the low. The girls working there have 3 month visas and will finish you for a tip if you ask them, usually. They're practically slaves. They're told where to go, they have curfews and work all the time. They want tips. I'm on bad terms with one near me due to a language barrier and misunderstanding on price after the deed. But if I wait 3 months she'll be gone. The management doesn't know what the girls do on the side. It was apparent they were trying to hide what they were doing from them.

I went to VIP twice. Once was good, once was "meh". It's like rolling a dice with that one. But they do take their time and are professional with you.

Yongsan isn't worth you're time. Shut down.

I haven't been to Miari, that's the last stop before I know the who's, what's, when's, where's, and why's.

If I hadn't made this clear. I really wanted that AR. I had some crazy sessions in the Land of Smiles[Thailand]. Want MOAR!

Make suggestions to me if you can help regarding areas or whatever.

[BionicMan]

I think I have no privilege to PM you. With thanks and regards.Easy to get the PM privileges, by subscribing to ISG.

[Dissolved Boy]

Can you PM her number? I am going there next week!Sorry, I haven't subscribed yet, and I don't know if she wants me to give her number out. All I can say is if you're coming from the Gireum subway station, head to the left of the RLD, as there are two "main" alleys. Her place is about in the middle. Her name is Yuna.

Happy hunting!

[Coitus68]

I have no Paypal or similar credit card system here in Korea.Why not? KEB and CostCo / Samsung give them out like candy.

[FisherKorea]

Why not? KEB and CostCo / Samsung give them out like candy.Issues with my visa status.

[Dissolved Boy]

So I walked around the RLD again today out of boredom, hoping to finally find the lady I previously talked about, and I found her. However, as soon as she saw me she waved me off like I was nothing. I tried to say Hello, again, but she brushed me off! I was crushed. I've been gone so long that she forgot me. I guess we foreigners "all look alike". I've used that joke for Asians, but I didn't expect it to happen to me!

I walked off to look at others, and indeed maybe because of the weather, there were a few others who welcomed me. However, I waited a while to see my old regular. I figured I'd give another pass, and if she waved me off I'd see the new girls. I came back around and she peaked her head out and ushered me in. I asked why she was so cold before and she said it was because the police were right there. They must've been undercover because I didn't see any uniforms or cars.

Once she came into the little room we talked for a few minutes because my Korean is BAD and her English is too. She said that while she can't speak well, she likes the language and has a friend abroad. I got undressed and she gave one of the most slow and sensual BBBJ I've ever had, gently caressing and massaging the parts that matter. She was so good that I almost came a couple of times, so I asked her to throw the condom on.

She got on top and took it all like last time. She got into it (pun intended?). Watching her face, I knew she was enjoying herself. I thought I saw some eyerolling! I came and even though she probably felt it, she kept riding for a couple minutes, maybe so she could get off too. She was really grinding into me.

I've been lucky recently. She was super friendly and accommodating. Like I said, if you want to try bigger girls, she's worth it. The skill and attitude (and price!) make up for the appearance.

[Brian 3232]

And anyone here want to hit up the room salons together? Would be nice to get a group of 3-4.

[Zarcady]

I would be up for a room salon but we would need at least 5 people possibly more to make the trip worthwhile. I've heard of a room salon gathering like this before on the ISG but it's been so long I don't know if there are regulars left that is willing to meet up with newbies like me. If anyone is interested, just give me a call.

BTW does anyone know which station is Miari close to? I've only ever gone there by taxi and I cannot for the life of me remember which railway station I got onto the next morning.

Cheers!

[EisFlamme]

Hi guys,

This seems like a ridiculous question but: Do you guys shave your privates before you head out for business? I heard that in Korea they consider it as a sign of having had Craps or whatever and I once got funny looks while relaxing in a bath house. Did you ever run into problems when appearing shaved. Man I feel silly for asking this.

[Dissolved Boy]

BTW does anyone know which station is Miari close to? I've only ever gone there by taxi and I cannot for the life of me remember which railway station I got onto the next morning.

Cheers!Gireum, on the light blue line; about a five stops from Dongdaemun. I forgot which exit though. I just "know". You'll know it when you see it though. EASILY.

[Roycankor]

BTW does anyone know which station is Miari close to? I've only ever gone there by taxi and I cannot for the life of me remember which railway station I got onto the next morning.!Miari is right next to Gereum station. Its a subway station not a railway station. I believe its exit number 2. Sorry, I only drive by it a few times a week, never took the subway. Hope this helps.

[Tgovm]

And anyone here want to hit up the room salons together? Would be nice to get a group of 3-4.Interested! I'm mid-20's, PM me.

[Sauro07]

Hey, thought I would post about what happened to me tonight. Curious if anyone else has had similar experiences.

Decided to go and try a massage place tonight and see what I was able to get. So I walked down toward Sinlim station, where I'd see a bunch of them clustered around.

Anyway the first one I went to said no foreigners, and the next one seemed like they would take a foreigner but the guy said they were booked for the night and you have to make a reservation. (BTW I'm write, but I speak pretty passable Korean).

Anyway at the third one I went to the lady at the front said okay and asked for 90, 000 won. I gave it to her and she led me to a room to change into the pants they provide, and then showed me to the shower room. When I came out she said there were cops outside trying to get in (I'd heard some banging on the door) , and she told me to hurry up and get dressed and go sit in her waiting area with the TV and pretend I was a guest instead of a customer. (Which the police would absolutely never believe.)

I was in there waiting for about 15 minutes. Her and one other girl were kind of freaking out and on the phone to some guy trying to get him to come over and fix it. After a while she told the other girl to just leave quickly, and then she told me to follow her. She turned off all the lights and locked the door and I followed her down the stairs and out onto the street. The cops were sitting right there with their lights on, but they didn't say anything to us.

Anyway I didn't know what was going on, but she said to follow her. She crossed the street and turned into an alley and I realized she was taking me to a different sports massage place. When we arrived the girl from before was sitting there waiting.

Anyway, she showed me to a booth and I changed clothes, but then the owner came in. She said the cops were going around to different places in the neighborhood, and she wanted to just shut down for the night. Gave me my money back. She said enforcement was really bad lately, and actually told me it would be better if I didn't try to go there. Which is not what I'd expect the owner to say, why'know?

Anyway, don't know if somebody saw me go in and called in a report, or if it was just a coincidence. But the cops got there about 10 minutes after I did, so I dunno.

Not the experience I was looking for. Can you explain where it was, so we are aware? I've been to 2-3 places in the last months and never had a problem.

Cheers,

Sauro

[Sauro07]

this definitely wasn't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) unless she drinks a ton of water. it had almost no smell and it just had a slightly salty taste. i have no fucking idea what that thick gel was either. i don't think she came in with some lube already jammed up her pussy. after some more sucking and fingering shot #2 came.hey, congrats! you just had your first rep002 experience!

1) never did a ultrasound examination? you have to drink heaps of water, hold it for the exam, and then [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) like you are a freakin' water tank leaking!

2) when you keep drinking lots of water, your [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) becomes clear as water, no smell, but the minerals are there (specially sodium, thus the salty taste)

3) the gel was probably lube. they apply it outside and come to you.

4) squirting is a yet debated phenomenon: possible, but divides specialists. and by no way it would be a shower like that.

welcome to the rep002 world!

[Brian 3232]

Interested! I'm mid-20's, PM me.Zarcady and tgovm, unfortunately I can't get a subscription right now (somethings wrong with the system and it asks me to mail the money which by the time it processes I'm out of korea). If you leave me your phone numbers [Email address deleted by Admin] ill contact you guys. Please take down this post if e mail is not allowed.

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[Zarcady]

Hi guys,

This seems like a ridiculous question but: Do you guys shave your privates before you head out for business? I heard that in Korea they consider it as a sign of having had Craps or whatever and I once got funny looks while relaxing in a bath house. Did you ever run into problems when appearing shaved. Man I feel silly for asking this. Thanks guys for answering my question! Now I think we have a couple of people interested in the room salon meeting so it could be a night of mongering for the ISG members! We just got to coordinate the time and the venue, etc.

And to answer your question. YES. Don't feel silly as it's a cultural difference between the asian and western cultures (I guess to a certain extent) I'm a gyopo where it's socially acceptable to shave or trim to present a cleaner appearance of your johnson so that used to be a regular routine for me UNTIL I came to korea.

I was at a motel in Yeoksam that provides SPs and it was there that I got rejected. By a hooker! I'm not really trying to degrade SPs as I have come to realise that they are normal people who has an unusual occupation but it did not leave me with a good feeling. She saw that I was shaven and immediately got suspicious, asking why I shaved and such. Surprised, I told her that it was a regular thing to do in Australia to appear presentable and neat. Still suspicious, she asked if she can 'inspect' me LOL. Confused, but determined not to hide anything, I agreed and we spent an uncomfortable minute or two where she was checking my johnson and the related areas. She didn't seem to find anything but was still about suss about it, she said, she's not going to be able to service me. She explained that it was because korean men never shaves, UNLESS he has lice which might be crabs (I never bothered to find out what crabs are tbh LOL). Now it never hit me that there can be lice in your pubes but I guess it's plausible that it could happen, if you are dirty or whatnot.

After that, I decided not to shave, but it's not like the pubes grow overnight so I worried about not being able to monger during the rest of my stay here; but I found out that most girls will service you but they will ALWAYS ask why you are shaven. I've mongered around several times at the RLDs and they will always ask but they won't refuse my service, rather, they will sometimes complain that it pricks them because I'm trying to grow them back, but it's at a stage where its abit short so it's prickly hahaha. = (

If they ask, you just got to pretend that it's the first time hearing about it and I guess it's okay for them. They will usually say it's because of lice, or that only sick men with some kind of disease will shave in korea, or that I heard it was a bad omen or something like that but it's not really a good thing to be shaven in korea hahaha. I guess they got to protect their pussy because that's how they make their money.

[FisherKorea]

T I've mongered around several times at the RLDs and they will always ask but they won't refuse my service, rather, they will sometimes complain that it pricks them because I'm trying to grow them back, but it's at a stage where its abit short so it's prickly hahaha. = (

If they ask, you just got to pretend that it's the first time hearing about it and I guess it's okay for them. They will usually say it's because of lice, or that only sick men with some kind of disease will shave in korea, or that I heard it was a bad omen or something like that but it's not really a good thing to be shaven in korea hahaha. I guess they got to protect their pussy because that's how they make their money.I was almost trimmed when I had my past three experiences. Nobody asked about it. But now I am clean shaven, don't know what they will say if I go.

By the way, pardon my Ignorance, what is room salon meeting and can you people add me? I am asian, is it a problem?

With thanks and regards

[EisFlamme]

And to answer your question. YES. Don't feel silly as it's a cultural difference between the asian and western cultures (I guess to a certain extent) I'm a gyopo where it's socially acceptable to shave or trim to present a cleaner appearance of your johnson so that used to be a regular routine for me UNTIL I came to korea.Thanks Zarcardy, same situation here: Kyopo, from beginning on trained to keep his privates shaved (though the rest is still hairy LOL). Anyway, will keep it in mind and stay away from the bathhouses here in Gwangju. I'll be in Seoul beginning of next week, if you need a wingman let me know (don't actually know whether I can read messages without subscription).

One more thing: Gildo was mentioning Hue Anma near the Renaissance Hotel. Could anybody please give me a direction as of which street I should take? And has anybody tried their two girl program and could tell me more. I couldn't find anything and I am intersted in trying that (or another 3some-like program you might know of in Seoul). I promise I will write a report if I get any action. The (_be)

[Coitus68]

hey, congrats! you just had your first [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) experience!uh, no. more like "welcome to the world of female ejaculation!"

[Coitus68]

And by no way it would be a shower like that.Never been with a squirter, right?

[BionicMan]

I have no Paypal or similar credit card system here in Korea.You can try with the USD cash option then.

Safe and effective

[Zarcady]

Interested! I'm mid-20's, PM me.I would try to PM but it would be nice if you guys are subscribed. As non paying members don't have PM priviledges.

[Turtle Power]

hey everyone,

i had been on hiatus on for awhile (always wrap it up) but had kept lurkering on the site to get the most out of my subscription. but i saw that gildo had posted some attachment docs which had a fetish title. i was curious if there was a place near where i lived. and to my happy surprise there was. it is near sillim9dong or seoul national university. the crazy thing is that i had walked by it for months. it is called imagenoble but the outside sign is called club. n. b.

here is a link to a road map.

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=343.4558436655975&tilt=-18.38239592711391&zoom=2&panoid=1017058783&screenmode=normal&map_type=type_skyview&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=roadview&q=&urlx=486587&urly=1103148&urllevel=3

the number is 02-873-7034 ext. 5 (but i didn't have to use 5). the guy does not speak english. there are no managers that speak english.

you need a i'd / password or korean national i'd number to access their site but you can use google search to go through a few pages through the backdoor.

here is the webpage for the stats of the "managers" but you cannot click on their individual message post reviews.

http://imagenoble.com/src/bbs/board.php?bo_table=sub0201

the fancy part of this place is that there are special themed rooms like japan room, school room, bar room, subway room, jail room, and hospital room. here is the page with some thumbnails.

http://imagenoble.com/src/bbs/board.php?bo_table=sub0104

i finally broke my break be / see i was just curious. i called and made a reservation. i'm korean but speak little or no korean. so i try to talk as little as possible so they don't reject me. they ask what time and your reservation name. remember it's on the 3rd floor and it's the non-labeled door on the right as you walk up to the 3rd floor. the other door on the left is something else. i was confused and went in the wrong door at first. i went in the right door and the guy is a young guy but built like a tank. we made formal introductions and he took a second look at me since of my western accent. we looked at each other for a minute and i didn't know if he was going to pull a gun on me. he relaxed and lead me to a room while trying to keep analyzing me. standard routine with get undressed, take a shower, and press the call button.

each room has like a foam mattress, dance pole. the girl that i met was very nice and really embarrassed that i didn't speak korean well. i knew this wasn't going to be a mind blowing session because of the breaking of the 4th wall and we couldn't communicate well. so i thought i would get as much information as i could. here is what i learned and i would hope that you use this information without throwing me under the bus because i'd like to go back some day.

the standard rules for hand job places. touching is allowed but nothing under the clothes. you can't kiss. some managers allow you to touch under their bra and their breasts. but she said that every manager is different with different tastes and preferences. you get an hour with the girl. they'll give you handjob with the typical gel and clean you up with wet tissues. she said a lot of guys have fetishes for stockings and legs so a lot of girls do rubbing with their feet but i honestly couldn't get it up that way. she offered a spit fetish which is where while giving me a handjob she drools spit over my cock and shows her tongue but doesn't lick your cock. she said that the most comfy room for the girls is the bar room because of the big comfy couch. she said that the least comfortable place is the subway room because the flat large seat (it's more of a felted desk flush with the wall). i saw the subway room and it was well decorated but i could tell that it would not be comfortable to lie there. she said guys like that the most. she said that it would be good for me because it usually doesn't involve speaking. the hospital one is used when guys pretend to be patients with erectile defunction and she "tries" to cure you. the school rooms were you can choose to be a student or teacher but she said you should let the girl be the teacher because they're much better at leading. some guys like s&m where they'll be yelled at but only some of the girls do that. no room looked like it could handle crazy stuff like a [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103). she said that the most common request is just posing and there are mirrors in each room.

i asked about foreigners as she said that i was the first gyopo and she said that it was just awkward talking with me so no girls couldn't do any role playing. she said that they did have an indo guy which i am thinking of an indian guy. she suggested the subway room because there is little or no talking. she said it is just too hard or too awkward to have a role play with a non-korean speaking person. i was way too shy to ask for anything but i would guess that they would take direction well and you do have the hour. she did say that they do get fucking crazy people but they kick them out easily. they probably don't just have a dancing pole in each room for nothing, right? i just gave her a break and cuddled for the rest of the hour.

she said that they are undergoing renovations and repairs. typically there is a monitor in each room which is attached to the changing room so you can see girls changing while you wait. but they're having tech difficulties. they used to let customers pick clothes but the clothes room is in disarray so they don't do that but the owner is working on it along with the renovations.

from my review it's a nice place because the rooms are nicely decorated and the girls look all 9's. you're just going to be paying 70, 000won for the atmosphere of the room. i liked it compared to the super cramped kiss rooms. but if you want a good massage or better service (like bbbj) i'd try a double pole service or a place like cool. i was disappointed because it was a lackluster handjob but the girl was very polite, nice, and beautiful. she also answered all my questions and gave me a tour of the rooms. so i think the info was worth it for this board.

[Turtle Power]

Hey,

After my visit to the fetish room I was left wanting so I thought I try a new massage place. I went through the forums to find a well reviewed place near SNU subway station.

Here is a road view map.

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=207.42611380495458&tilt=2.590246698820604&zoom=3&panoid=1017073518&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=&urlX=488586&urlY=1106176&urlLevel=3

I was kind of on the fence whether I should go upstairs to the Kiss Room or the BBS downstairs. But the BBS review on the forum was so favorable I thought I trust it. I really regret it considering that the post was even a few years ago. *sigh*

The place was really sleazy. It smelled bad. It cost 90, 000. The woman's face looked nice but aged. I'm a fucking retard. Her clothes really hide her obese body. The massage is nonexistent. She let me fuck her missionary. I literally was regretting it while I was doing her and realized that men really can fuck anything. I do not recommend. Stay away. I need to go take a shower now and scrub off the memory again.

[Turtle Power]

Hi again,

So this is why I quit this hobby. I can't have the last session I have to be bad because I keep thinking about it. So I try a well known place. I thought I try IVY for the first time.

It's near COEX shopping mall. It is across from the City Air Terminal where you can check in your suitcases for your flight and get a shuttle to the airport. It's near the Samseong Station which is on Line 2 (green).

Here is a daum road map (I know it's well known but I'm really terrible with written directions. GPS coordinates and screenshot saves me so much time finding a place).

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=304.35147414791874&tilt=-1.169788831725425&zoom=3&panoid=1016966234&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1%EC%97%AD&urlX=512900&urlY=1113850&urlLevel=3.

I can't remember if it was 70, 000 or 80, 000. Walk in with no reservation. Very nice front desk guy. It was 1am but it was busy. The rooms look like narrow professional massage rooms. The rooms are closed off by curtains not doors. You can easily hear the other girls and guys which kind of bothered me. Showered and came back. The girl was cute. Gave me foot wash in the sink. Weak massage but I found that she was trained to speak very well to customers which made me think that they girls are instructed to because there was so much talking in the other rooms. Took her top off and gave a gelled handjob. She was very nice and smiley but told me that I was taking too long to cum which totally killed the mood and that her arm was getting tired. I was like "doesn't saying that make the guy not cum sooner". Her name was Sora with a black and white one piece.

Very professional and clean place. I would describe it as "dependable" but you'd just go there for the conversation (if you are Korean). There are better places for massages (like near SNU station and refer to my previous review) and go to Cool or Belle to get a BBBJ or more heavy rubbing and touching.

[Turtle Power]

As I'm writing this I'm feeling like an alcoholic that fell off the wagon.

There is a handjob place similar to Cool and Belle near Sillim9dong.

Here is the Daum Road View Link.

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=324.53284445868314&tilt=-4.512042636655211&zoom=3&panoid=1017073914&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1%EC%97%AD&urlX=486195&urlY=1102085&urlLevel=3.

I was interested in it because it said costumes on the alternate sign on the other side. Nope. They don't do that now.

It's in the basement with individual rooms. Each with a massage table in each. There are doors. You pay 70, 000won, take the shower, then press the call button. I went for two different sessions with two different girls. Both were not knockouts and flatchested. I am thinking because of the location that it doesn't attract the best talent. Girls names were BorLa and Jinhee.

Service was sub-par and mechanical. You do get BBBJ, nipple licking, and a gelled handjob. They close on Sundays for rest but it was odd because the light was still on on Sunday.

The experience just made me realize how good looking the girls were at Belle and ImageNoble.

[Turtle Power]

Hey Everyone,

I don't mean to spam the forum but thought I just ask for some info or advice as I feel I've paid my dues.

I'm kind of tired of trying to navigate the Korean scene and would like to finally talk to a SP that speaks English. I get the feeling that this forum is more in tune to Itaewon. I'm finding that Itaewon has cleaned up a lot. I know that people think it the bottom of the bottom but that wasn't my impression when I visited Hooker Hill awhile time ago. I'm assuming this is the place.

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=82.72078167201204&tilt=-2.339577663450842&zoom=3&panoid=1017257386&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1%EC%97%AD&urlX=499067&urlY=1120700&urlLevel=3.

For me it was just very intimidating. I would consider myself taller and more muscular than the average Korean guy (though that's not very hard). But when I see packs of drunk rowdy white guys with thick necks and look like they could all be hired as bouncers, I just fucking lose my nerve since I usually go alone. Also some of the hot girls off the main hill are just sitting on the steps at DAY club just chilling and smoking. Are they on break or can you approach them? I am decent looking Korean but am young 20's so I did get open doors and calls from girls on the main hill who I thought were very attractive and not the dregs like people have described. I didn't go in as I just wanted to survey the entire scene.

So going through the forums, I think I get the routine so how's this. Buy some overpriced drinks for yourself and the girl who you have interest in. I read on another blog that the girls get a salary of 600, 000won and get half the price of the ladydrinks which I think is awesome for the girl because minimum wage in Korea is like 5, 000 / hr. So for a girl to make an instant 10, 000 off a 20, 000 ladydrink, for her would be a fucking amazing deal. Ok, so you pay for the drinks to break the ice and get a feel for the girl then negotiate how much for what you want. And you're not supposed to keep buying drinks expecting that the girl will make the first move since it's just easy money for her to just drink for free. You want to haggle always and be / show that your always willing to walk. Minimum would be 100, 000 for quick FS incall where they will take you in a back room or lock up the small bar for you. 200, 000 / HR for outcall FS. I've read that you could get a BBBJCIM for 60, 000 but is that still possible?

I'm just looking for a PSE English speaking girl for DATY and BBBJCIM for under 80, 000. Possible?

Is it odd / bad for a guy to go on his own walking through the Hill?

On the PDF map (I've attached it) of the places that the US military soldiers are banned, there are a few that are red not on the hill. Are these even worth checking out?

[Zarcady]

Hey Everyone,

I don't mean to spam the forum but thought I just ask for some info or advice as I feel I've paid my dues.

I'm kind of tired of trying to navigate the Korean scene and would like to finally talk to a SP that speaks English. I get the feeling that this forum is more in tune to Itaewon. I'm finding that Itaewon has cleaned up a lot. I know that people think it the bottom of the bottom but that wasn't my impression when I visited Hooker Hill awhile time ago. I'm assuming this is the place.

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=82.72078167201204&tilt=-2.339577663450842&zoom=3&panoid=1017257386&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=

%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1%EC%97%AD&urlX=499067&urlY=1120700&urlLevel=3.

For me it was just very intimidating. I would consider myself taller and more muscular than the average Korean guy (though that's not very hard). But when I see packs of drunk rowdy white guys with thick necks and look like they could all be hired as bouncers, I just fucking lose my nerve since I usually go alone. Also some of the hot girls off the main hill are just sitting on the steps at DAY club just chilling and smoking. Are they on break or can you approach them? I am decent looking Korean but am young 20's so I did get open doors and calls from girls on the main hill who I thought were very attractive and not the dregs like people have described. I didn't go in as I just wanted to survey the entire scene.

So going through the forums, I think I get the routine so how's this. Buy some overpriced drinks for yourself and the girl who you have interest in. I read on another blog that the girls get a salary of 600, 000won and get half the price of the ladydrinks which I think is awesome for the girl because minimum wage in Korea is like 5, 000 / hr. So for a girl to make an instant 10, 000 off a 20, 000 ladydrink, for her would be a fucking amazing deal. Ok, so you pay for the drinks to break the ice and get a feel for the girl then negotiate how much for what you want. And you're not supposed to keep buying drinks expecting that the girl will make the first move since it's just easy money for her to just drink for free. You want to haggle always and be / show that your always willing to walk. Minimum would be 100, 000 for quick FS incall where they will take you in a back room or lock up the small bar for you. 200, 000 / HR for outcall FS. I've read that you could get a BBBJCIM for 60, 000 but is that still possible?

I'm just looking for a PSE English speaking girl for DATY and BBBJCIM for under 80, 000. Possible?

Is it odd / bad for a guy to go on his own walking through the Hill?

On the PDF map (I've attached it) of the places that the US military soldiers are banned, there are a few that are red not on the hill. Are these even worth checking out? Hey turtle power! Thanks for the great infos, I just have a couple of questions that I want to ask you.

How would you rate the SPs at itaewon that are easily available for foreigers to SPs at the RLD that are more accesible to native koreans? I've heard alot of good reports about knockout SPs being available at the hookers hill especially in HJ places like Belle or cool but then I also heard that it doesn't really compare to the SPs that are available to native koreans and that if you are korean, then you are better off to monger elsewhere.

I'm a gyopo myself and I haven't been refused anywhere so far because my korean is passable. I wouldn't say the quality of the SPs are outstanding in the places that I've been to and was really curious as to the quality of the SPs at itaewon.

Maybe you can give me a quick rundown on the differences? It would help me alot =D.

Cheers!

[Will042]

If prostitution and pimping is illegal, why didn't the police arrest them?

What's up with the coins in the department store?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/masked-south-korean-sex-workers-rally-against-police-crackdown-on-brothels/2011/05/17/AFMCbW5G_story.html

SEOUL, South Korea — Hundreds of prostitutes and pimps rallied Tuesday near a red-light district in Seoul to protest a police crackdown on brothels, with some unsuccessfully attempting to set themselves on fire.

A crowd of about 400 people, mostly women wearing baseball caps, masks and sunglasses, chanted slogans like, 'Guarantee the right to live! ' during the four-hour rally.

At one point, about 20 protesters in their underwear and covered in body and face paint doused themselves in flammable liquid in an apparent attempt to burn themselves, but others stopped them from lighting any flames. Some of the women then sat in the street and wept and screamed, while other protesters consoled them.

Minor scuffles between protesters and police officers erupted after the rally, but there were no reports of major injuries.

Prostitution is illegal in South Korea but is widespread despite repeated government crackdowns.

The rally comes weeks after officials began stationing police cars near brothels in a bid to drive away people looking to pay for sex.

The sex workers accuse a nearby department store of pushing police to take such measures. Police deny the claim.

As part of their protest, a group of prostitutes on Sunday tried to buy expensive items at the department store with only coins; when they were rejected, they placed large piles of coins on the department store's floors.

[Will042]

Turtle power- some great reports! Too bad you never linked up with me as my wingman. Maybe another time.

There was a place in Gangnam called Zest which was kinda neat, gone now.

I'm heading out of the country for a year or two. This forum has been invaluable. I recommend everyone to get a membership and participate in the discussion. The cost is small to support such a valuable source of information.

I would like to shout out a thank you to kimchi warrior. Your reports were inspirational and sorely missed.

Take care guys and wrap that rascal.

[HeavyFuel]

I'm at the InterCon and feeling like taking a walk to this place. How do I get GPS co-ords out of the Daum map? Thanks!


Hi again,

So this is why I quit this hobby. I can't have the last session I have to be bad because I keep thinking about it. So I try a well known place. I thought I try IVY for the first time.

It's near COEX shopping mall. It is across from the City Air Terminal where you can check in your suitcases for your flight and get a shuttle to the airport. It's near the Samseong Station which is on Line 2 (green).

Here is a daum road map (I know it's well known but I'm really terrible with written directions. GPS coordinates and screenshot saves me so much time finding a place).

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=304.35147414791874&tilt=-1.169788831725425&zoom=3&panoid=1016966234&screenMode=normal&map_type=TYPE_SKYVIEW&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=ROADVIEW&q=

%EC%82%BC%EC%84%B1%EC%97%AD&urlX=512900&urlY=1113850&urlLevel=3.

I can't remember if it was 70, 000 or 80, 000. Walk in with no reservation. Very nice front desk guy. It was 1am but it was busy. The rooms look like narrow professional massage rooms. The rooms are closed off by curtains not doors. You can easily hear the other girls and guys which kind of bothered me. Showered and came back. The girl was cute. Gave me foot wash in the sink. Weak massage but I found that she was trained to speak very well to customers which made me think that they girls are instructed to because there was so much talking in the other rooms. Took her top off and gave a gelled handjob. She was very nice and smiley but told me that I was taking too long to cum which totally killed the mood and that her arm was getting tired. I was like "doesn't saying that make the guy not cum sooner". Her name was Sora with a black and white one piece.

Very professional and clean place. I would describe it as "dependable" but you'd just go there for the conversation (if you are Korean). There are better places for massages (like near SNU station and refer to my previous review) and go to Cool or Belle to get a BBBJ or more heavy rubbing and touching.

[Brian 3232]

Thanks Zarcardy, same situation here: Kyopo, from beginning on trained to keep his privates shaved (though the rest is still hairy LOL). Anyway, will keep it in mind and stay away from the bathhouses here in Gwangju. I'll be in Seoul beginning of next week, if you need a wingman let me know (don't actually know whether I can read messages without subscription).

One more thing: Gildo was mentioning Hue Anma near the Renaissance Hotel. Could anybody please give me a direction as of which street I should take? And has anybody tried their two girl program and could tell me more. I couldn't find anything and I am intersted in trying that (or another 3some-like program you might know of in Seoul). I promise I will write a report if I get any action. The (_be) Ya I went to hue for that. The event is only available during the daytime (Before 8). But when I went the girls were not so fantastic looking. I ended up getting a refund because I just couldn't do it.

I am not sure of the directions, but I think it was close to Renassaince. Right across from hue is this big golf shop called kIM young something. But hue is easy to miss. You have to go inside this alley. The alley is right across from the golf shop, which is right across from Renaissance.

[Brian 3232]

hey everyone,

i had been on hiatus on for awhile (always wrap it up) but had kept lurkering on the site to get the most out of my subscription. but i saw that gildo had posted some attachment docs which had a fetish title. i was curious if there was a place near where i lived. and to my happy surprise there was. it is near sillim9dong or seoul national university. the crazy thing is that i had walked by it for months. it is called imagenoble but the outside sign is called club. n. b.

here is a link to a road map.

http://local.daum.net/map/index.jsp?pan=343.4558436655975&tilt=-18.38239592711391&zoom=2&panoid=1017058783&screenmode=normal&map_type=type_skyview&map_hybrid=true&map_attribute=roadview&q=&urlx=486587&urly=1103148&urllevel=3

the number is 02-873-7034 ext. 5 (but i didn't have to use 5). the guy does not speak english. there are no managers that speak english.

you need a i'd / password or korean national i'd number to access their site but you can use google search to go through a few pages through the backdoor.

here is the webpage for the stats of the "managers" but you cannot click on their individual message post reviews.

http://imagenoble.com/src/bbs/board.php?bo_table=sub0201

the fancy part of this place is that there are special themed rooms like japan room, school room, bar room, subway room, jail room, and hospital room. here is the page with some thumbnails.

http://imagenoble.com/src/bbs/board.php?bo_table=sub0104

i finally broke my break be / see i was just curious. i called and made a reservation. i'm korean but speak little or no korean. so i try to talk as little as possible so they don't reject me. they ask what time and your reservation name. remember it's on the 3rd floor and it's the non-labeled door on the right as you walk up to the 3rd floor. the other door on the left is something else. i was confused and went in the wrong door at first. i went in the right door and the guy is a young guy but built like a tank. we made formal introductions and he took a second look at me since of my western accent. we looked at each other for a minute and i didn't know if he was going to pull a gun on me. he relaxed and lead me to a room while trying to keep analyzing me. standard routine with get undressed, take a shower, and press the call button.

each room has like a foam mattress, dance pole. the girl that i met was very nice and really embarrassed that i didn't speak korean well. i knew this wasn't going to be a mind blowing session because of the breaking of the 4th wall and we couldn't communicate well. so i thought i would get as much information as i could. here is what i learned and i would hope that you use this information without throwing me under the bus because i'd like to go back some day.

the standard rules for hand job places. touching is allowed but nothing under the clothes. you can't kiss. some managers allow you to touch under their bra and their breasts. but she said that every manager is different with different tastes and preferences. you get an hour with the girl. they'll give you handjob with the typical gel and clean you up with wet tissues. she said a lot of guys have fetishes for stockings and legs so a lot of girls do rubbing with their feet but i honestly couldn't get it up that way. she offered a spit fetish which is where while giving me a handjob she drools spit over my cock and shows her tongue but doesn't lick your cock. she said that the most comfy room for the girls is the bar room because of the big comfy couch. she said that the least comfortable place is the subway room because the flat large seat (it's more of a felted desk flush with the wall). i saw the subway room and it was well decorated but i could tell that it would not be comfortable to lie there. she said guys like that the most. she said that it would be good for me because it usually doesn't involve speaking. the hospital one is used when guys pretend to be patients with erectile defunction and she "tries" to cure you. the school rooms were you can choose to be a student or teacher but she said you should let the girl be the teacher because they're much better at leading. some guys like s&m where they'll be yelled at but only some of the girls do that. no room looked like it could handle crazy stuff like a [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103). she said that the most common request is just posing and there are mirrors in each room.

i asked about foreigners as she said that i was the first gyopo and she said that it was just awkward talking with me so no girls couldn't do any role playing. she said that they did have an indo guy which i am thinking of an indian guy. she suggested the subway room because there is little or no talking. she said it is just too hard or too awkward to have a role play with a non-korean speaking person. i was way too shy to ask for anything but i would guess that they would take direction well and you do have the hour. she did say that they do get fucking crazy people but they kick them out easily. they probably don't just have a dancing pole in each room for nothing, right? i just gave her a break and cuddled for the rest of the hour.

she said that they are undergoing renovations and repairs. typically there is a monitor in each room which is attached to the changing room so you can see girls changing while you wait. but they're having tech difficulties. they used to let customers pick clothes but the clothes room is in disarray so they don't do that but the owner is working on it along with the renovations.

from my review it's a nice place because the rooms are nicely decorated and the girls look all 9's. you're just going to be paying 70, 000won for the atmosphere of the room. i liked it compared to the super cramped kiss rooms. but if you want a good massage or better service (like bbbj) i'd try a double pole service or a place like cool. i was disappointed because it was a lackluster handjob but the girl was very polite, nice, and beautiful. she also answered all my questions and gave me a tour of the rooms. so i think the info was worth it for this board.do you remember the name of the girl?

you're awesome. thanks a lot. do you mind posting the websites for the hj / fetish places?

[HeavyFuel]

Hehe. As luck would have it, the lady from my office took me to lunch and we walked right past VIP! So. There will be a visit later this evening. Yum!


I'm at the InterCon and feeling like taking a walk to this place. How do I get GPS co-ords out of the Daum map? Thanks!

[EisFlamme]

Ya I went to hue for that. The event is only available during the daytime (Before 8). But when I went the girls were not so fantastic looking. I ended up getting a refund because I just couldn't do it.

Cheers Brian, this already helps a lot. Sorry to hear that you didn't like what was on display, I think I will try it anyway. Does that mean you left without doing anything or you chose to have only the normal package?

5 more days until I leave for Seoul. I'm getting antsy.

[BionicMan]

I read from media reports about a protest set by pimps and WG in the streets of Seoul (RDL I assume) against the recent LE enforcements against RLD and the abouts.

Can anyone there elaborate a bit on the mongering side and effects (apart the usual ones as in many places LE is awake!) of the LE action and the impact of the protest?

I mean, in many countries such a protest would have been stopped by LE immediately.

From image reports it looked as the protest went on calmly and as a legitimate one.

[Coitus68]

I read from media reports about a protest set by pimps and WG in the streets of Seoul (RDL I assume) against the recent LE enforcements against RLD and the abouts.

Can anyone there elaborate a bit on the mongering side and effects (apart the usual ones as in many places LE is awake!) of the LE action and the impact of the protest?

I mean, in many countries such a protest would have been stopped by LE immediately.

From image reports it looked as the protest went on calmly and as a legitimate one. Protests in Korea are not illegal. Protesting here is a national sport; every week in the summer there's something being protested in Kwanghwamun. Nothing for LE to break up as long as everyone there is peaceful.

This is not the first protest by pimps and hos. Probably more like the 6th or 7th. They've been going on for the last few years, ever since the (then) new Police Chief decided to close all the RLDs. Six (seven?) years on, and they're still there (although smaller).

No impact on mongering aside from the fact that RLDs have gotten smaller (and working girls moving to officetels or the Internet). Doesn't really matter to me anyway as I never go to the RLDs aside from the one time I went to Miari pre-crackdown. Not my thing.

[Turtle Power]

i've only been to yongsan (when it was open) and yeungdeungpo rld. the a-row girls there are definitely comparable to the hotter girls in itaewon but again there were not as pretty girls too. it would be like if the a row and b row girls were all on a small street. actually the funniest moment was when one drunk old korean man stopped walking suddenly and started to say something along the lines of "daaaaaaammmmmmmnnnn! that's fucking hot" in korean. i walked to see what he was peering at and it was a bombshell in a polkerface dress that made my jaw drop. again i know that it is common knowledge that there are bottom feeders in itaewon which you would never see in a a-row at a rld, but i felt there was enough eye candy for even most guys.

i didn't partake or go into any bars in itaewon. maybe just circled the hill a few times. i felt i'd be eaten alive if i went if without any prep which is something that i think that rlds wouldn't have. i haven't had to haggle much at rlds for a good deal. also (this is just my assumption) that the girls of itaewon would have a different kind of sexuality than the girls at rld since they are catering to different audiences. my assumption would be like watching asian made porn and western porn. also i just want to explain in english what i want instead of a girl giving me the raised eyebrow and have me explain it like i'm a toddler.

as for belle and cool. i find cool pretty consistent with hotties and sometimes you win the lottery. all the girls at cool were tall and looked like they could work at car shows. belle on the other hand is like playing russian roulette but most of the girls i've met go much farther than the rules allow you to. belle would be more like the girl next door from my experience.

i have heard that the prettiest girls are at room salons. actually in a recent article in the paper even though the economy has been hard on karaoke rooms with a decrease of 13, room salons have flourished and are doing well despite a slump in economic times. but i guess it would be much more expensive as it would be a couple hundred dollars for the room and then more money to take the girl home. i wouldn't consider myself a cheap-ass but i don't think i could spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars for one girl even if they were a 10.


hey turtle power! thanks for the great infos, i just have a couple of questions that i want to ask you.

how would you rate the sps at itaewon that are easily available for foreigers to sps at the rld that are more accesible to native koreans? i've heard alot of good reports about knockout sps being available at the hookers hill especially in hj places like belle or cool but then i also heard that it doesn't really compare to the sps that are available to native koreans and that if you are korean, then you are better off to monger elsewhere.

i'm a gyopo myself and i haven't been refused anywhere so far because my korean is passable. i wouldn't say the quality of the sps are outstanding in the places that i've been to and was really curious as to the quality of the sps at itaewon.

maybe you can give me a quick rundown on the differences? it would help me alot =d.

cheers!

[Turtle Power]

You right click and in the drop down menu it should be you the option of destination pin (Here is the Korean symbols &46020; &52265.

Or if the Korean is just too much (as it is for me) you can cross reference the spot with Google Maps. Again right click to place a pin for destination. It'll show the GPS coordinates in the left hand panel. Copy and paste the numbers in general Google search which will give you the correct "degree" annotations.

The GPS coordinates for VIP are "+37° 30' 33. 88", +127° 3' 29. 60"


I'm at the InterCon and feeling like taking a walk to this place. How do I get GPS co-ords out of the Daum map? Thanks!

[Turtle Power]

The girl that helped me out at ImageNoble was Honey. I cross referenced her name afterward with the manager list. I was sad to see that she wasn't there but I'm either guessing that they haven't updated the website or she lied to me. I'm hoping the former since she was very nice, patient and I thought I gave her a very easy session.

She told me she is 165cm tall. She has braces which she had for little less than one year but still hurt. She has very long wavy hair which nice to look at. She is very pretty and I would give her a 8/10. You're going to be expecting an A cup but she declined to take off her top but let me slide my hand in her dress as much as I wanted. If it wasn't for all the Q&A I would have considered it a loss considering I wasn't into the themed room as much as people who go there are and I'd leave happier at a good massage place or from a place like Belle. She is a nice polite girl and said that she doesn't do the S&M prison room. Which makes me kind of wonder what kind of ***** works that room. LOL.


Do you remember the name of the girl?

You're awesome. Thanks a lot. Do you mind posting the websites for the HJ / fetish places?

[BusyDiver]

I understand around times square / Marriott there is some action can anyone give.

Me some walking directions? Thanks

[HeavyFuel]

Went to VIP past midnight. For 80k, was led to a tiny room with a wash basin. After changing into strangely colored shorts, Yun arrived. Washed my feet in the basin. God knows why. Proceeded to do a less than noticeable massage. In under fifteen minutes she had me turn over, took my shorts off, rinsed Johnson with wet towel and proceeded to stroke it with copious amounts of gel. Again, less than noticeable effort. She barely knew how to stroke! I had to show her how a stroke works! Cleaned me up with a wet towel after the act and I left. Released but not relieved! This monger was must seek satisfaction elsewhere!


You right click and in the drop down menu it should be you the option of destination pin (Here is the Korean symbols &46020; &52265.

Or if the Korean is just too much (as it is for me) you can cross reference the spot with Google Maps. Again right click to place a pin for destination. It'll show the GPS coordinates in the left hand panel. Copy and paste the numbers in general Google search which will give you the correct "degree" annotations.

The GPS coordinates for VIP are "+37° 30' 33. 88", +127° 3' 29. 60"

[Ggaribaldi]

Hi guys,

My girl-friend and me enjoyed very much reading about your experiences of the nightlife in South Korea (thanks especially to TurtlePower.).

We will be in SK in July for the first time and we are looking for some nice entertainment in stripclubs, brothels or massage salons. Don't get me wrong its far away of beeing a sex tourism holiday (like we had it in Thailand.) BUT we would very much enjoy some erotic opportunities. After doing some research and reading we are getting the impression that its not thaaat simple, so some questions arose:

1. Is it difficult for a couple to get a girl with you for a reasonable price?

2. I read that a lot of Russian girls are working as prostitutes in SK. Is that true and could anyone recommend a place?

3. Do massage offer erotic massages for women / couples as well?

4. What about striptease clubs? They do not seem to be that common?

5. We very much enjoyed the girls in Thailand so thailandian girls would be fine as well.

6. Are there districts where foreigners are really welcomed?

7. And the 1000k question: Is there a facility that by any chance combines striptease, prostitition AND accomodation? That would be lovely.

Best,

Gg

[BionicMan]

Protests in Korea are not illegal. Protesting here is a national sport; every week in the summer there's something being protested in Kwanghwamun. Nothing for LE to break up as long as everyone there is peaceful.

This is not the first protest by pimps and hos. Probably more like the 6th or 7th. They've been going on for the last few years, ever since the (then) new Police Chief decided to close all the RLDs. Six (seven?) years on, and they're still there (although smaller).

No impact on mongering aside from the fact that RLDs have gotten smaller (and working girls moving to officetels or the Internet). Doesn't really matter to me anyway as I never go to the RLDs aside from the one time I went to Miari pre-crackdown. Not my thing. Thanks for the insider input! .

My definition on the protest was not to call them illegal, but in my POV protesting in favour of something that is "against the law" sounds weird. Not as a mroal judgement on the protests, but any government would not be happy to see people protesting because police is "defending the law".

[Ezinho]

Also some of the hot girls off the main hill are just sitting on the steps at DAY club just chilling and smoking. Are they on break or can you approach them?Someone on here can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this Day Club you are referring to is a tranny bar, maybe some sort of tranny show club or norebang? I'm not sure but I think the sign says "trans" in both English and Hangeul and the "women" sitting out front were probably not born women. If you're into that, that's cool I guess, but let's not lead unsuspecting guys on that may be new to mongering in Itaewon.

You ask a lot of, umm, silly questions about the Itaewon scene, but you seem to be a good contributor so I'll just tell you what a do, as a 30 year old round eye. First of all, just ignore the young millitary dudes. Actually, I would avoid them all together by either mongering in the early evening (5-8pm) or, my preferred time range, which would be 3-5am.

Also, I would avoid buying drinks for the girls and just get down to negotiations, but you may be more of a romantic than I am, so do whatever makes you comfortable. But it's not mandatory to buy a drink on the Hill.

Personally, I don't understand why any Korean guys, Western born or not, would waste their time around Hooker Hill (or even in Itaewon, for that matter) but if you want girls that speak English, I guess that's one of the few places to go for that.

As an aside, I made my way around the Hill last Tuesday around 4am or so and ran into Bean at Cabin. She's still got a nice thick ass and legs. I started from the top of the Hill and was going to make my way down to Texas to see Nara / Na Na, but I didn't make it! Maybe next week.

One more thing, in Gangnam between Cool and Angel, there looks to be a massage place called Sante massage on the fourth floor. Any info on this place? I only walked by it on my way to work, so I don't know anything about it.

[Kimchi Warrior]

[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1156956]Someone on here can correct me if I'm wrong,

It. [\QUOTE]

Basially what E said, so not a correction; just an amplification.

If you want to avoid the high and tight crowd and their baggage train (the latter civvie contractors being far and away more troublesome) , just don't go on Friday or Saturday nights, especially at the end of the month (payday). That way you also miss all the english teacher and low end korean and other party trash.

The girls will "pop" out of their doors and at certain venues on the hill proper even come out and try to steer prospective punters into their bars. They don't loiter around on the stoops. Them are trannies, which is pretty obvious if you get within 10 feet of them or hear their voices.

Isn't Bean@"Manila" on the hill proper, or has she moved over to Cabin on the western shoulder? Walked past the latter a few days ago and it seems there is some new talent there and next door (besides the malnourished fillie and the notorious Ina who was thrown out of Ing for stealing another girl's purse and dosh. ABC also has at least one more new face. And Tattooed Nadia is no longer a peroxide blond at Moonshine.

[Ezinho]

Isn't Bean@"Manila" on the hill proper, or has she moved over to Cabin on the western shoulder?Actually, we're both wrong. Bean works out of Bridge Bar, between ABC and Madrid. Not sure why I said Cabin.


They don't loiter around on the stoops. Them are trannies, which is pretty obvious if you get within 10 feet of them or hear their voices.

Very good point, and something newbies to the Hill should be aware of.

[Kimchi Warrior]

Actually, we're both wrong. Bean works out of Bridge Bar, between ABC and Madrid. Not sure why I said Cabin.Right, Bridge is in there too; did it used to be Manila, or is there also a Manila? For an old Recon guy, I'm getting careless. .

[Jojo407]

So I went to see the heavier set girl at Fantasy on the hill in the day. I talked to her mom too. I don't know if her mom is Miya or what her name is or whatever. She told me,"that's my mom", and told her to leave. I got a BBBJ from her for a while but she didn't like my talk during. So she gave me my money back, talked bad about me in Korean for a second and told me to leave.

I'm a dirt bag.

Yes. I am.

Paid nothing for a BBBJ.

No finish, but what the hey.

[Run Mann]

So I went to see the heavier set girl at Fantasy on the hill in the day.

I got a BBBJ from her for a while but she didn't like my talk during. So she gave me my money back, Funny, this has to be a first but what were you saying that would make her do this? Besides being one of the cheapest providers on the hill she has one of the most playful and docile persona out there.

[Jojo407]

Funny, this has to be a first but what were you saying that would make her do this? Besides being one of the cheapest providers on the hill she has one of the most playful and docile persona out there.I have no idea. I think I just caught her at the wrong time. It was 1 in the afternoon. Yeah, it was cheap, $40, then a refund.

[I Miss Millenium]

Went out looking for action on the hill last night, and based on intel from a fellow hobbyist on ISG I had some specific targets. Had some drinks at debut, then wandered around to check out some of the options. Ended up at Texas with Nana. Very nice experience. Looks = 7. 5, service = 9. 300K for long time (on Fri night) , ended up being about 1. 5 hrs, back and forth BBJ & AR with awesome technique. Great use of hands and lots of spit on the BJ, followed by FS doggie. I ended up tipping another 100K on account of the great service. Would definitely repeat, although tonight will be my last night in Seoul, so I'll be lookin for a different gal.

[Mancio]

Does anyone have any info on escorts in Seoul? I'd love to find someone who would come to my place rather than me having to go to anmas / the hill.

Also, how about officetel girls? I heard that's the place to find the hottest girls these days. In fact I'm pretty sure there are quite a few in my own building. Any way for a foreigner to access this scene?

[Jojo407]

So I took a trip to 588 RLD. I went to visit the heavier set girl that wears a school girl out fit in the back row. I've seen her before. She looked disinterested, unmotivated, and asked me for 100. Before it was 70 and she was smiling and ready to go. I thought,"F that". I walked around for a while and ended up with a heavier set girl in the front row. Only 60, FS, BBBJ, very kind, not pushy, funny, and got a pineapple juice at the end. Will repeat.

[Jojo407]

Went out looking for action on the hill last night, and based on intel from a fellow hobbyist on ISG I had some specific targets. Had some drinks at debut, then wandered around to check out some of the options. Ended up at Texas with Nana. Very nice experience. Looks = 7. 5, service = 9. 300K for long time (on Fri night) , ended up being about 1. 5 hrs, back and forth BBJ & AR with awesome technique. Great use of hands and lots of spit on the BJ, followed by FS doggie. I ended up tipping another 100K on account of the great service. Would definitely repeat, although tonight will be my last night in Seoul, so I'll be lookin for a different gal.So. Na Na does AR. Has anyone else gotten this from her?

[MenMyFranknstein]

So. Na Na does AR. Has anyone else gotten this from her?Dunno, obviously, I'm guessing there's some confusion between lingual stimulation of the perineum and full on circling the drain and tongue stopper in the bunghole. The former is pretty common from better providers, the latter quite rare.

[I Miss Millenium]

So. Na Na does AR. Has anyone else gotten this from her?She did for me (quite well, in fact). YMMV. I did negotiate for it up front. I actually keep some porn videos (AR, deepthroat, etc) on my phone that I sometimes show to providers up front (very helpful in cases of language barriers, and typically goes over pretty well). Has served me quite well in my world travels, I would recommend the strategy in general.

[I Miss Millenium]

Sorry to disrupt forum etiquette like this, but "other areas" thread doesn't seem to get much traffic: Anyways, I'm in Ulsan, and I found a "foreigner's bar" called las vegas full of filipina chicks (many of them very hot). Reading the forum, my understanding is that there would be a barfine system ( 150K) , but I had a strange experience last week:

At Las Vegas Wed night, about 15 girls (assumingly all filipinas) .7's & 8's all around. One of them caught my eye (Rachel) , so I bought her a drink. I asked if she would join me at my hotel for an hour. First she said she wasn't allowed to leave, but after some convincing she said she needed to ask her boss, and came back asking 400K won. This sounded pretty outrageous, so I countered with 250K won (still seemed quite high for Korea, but I was really digging this girl). She went away again and came back with her boss who wanted 300K won, and she wanted it all there on the spot. I told her I would pay 150K won bar fine and give the girl 150K, but she wouldn't budge. Furthermore, it was almost 2am and the place was devoid of customers. The girl was acting all interested and asked for my phone number to meet later, but the whole thing seemed kinda sketchy. I just had the feeling I would pay the 300K and then the girl would BS or try to upsell once we got to my hotel. Anyways, I just bailed (and girl didn't ever call). Can someone explain what was going on? Is this normal in Korea? This was my first (attempted) mongering in Korea outside of Itaewan, but I'm in Ulsan for a while and would really like to get some action specifically from Filipina girls. Any thoughts?

[Turtle Power]

That's an awesome gf you have.

I've never seen a massage place for couples. But here is a link to a Google Translate page to ask "Do you accept couples?" It'll also give you an idea of what characters to look for if your sign searching.

http://translate.google.com/#ko|en|%EC%BB%A4%ED%94%8C%EC%9C%BC%EB%A1%9C%20%ED%95%A0%EC%88%98%EC%9E%88%EC%96%before%EC%9A%94%3F%0A.

Probably the most foreigner friendly area is Itaewon just because there are so many of them there. Motels (everywhere) are very cheap during the day if you state that you just need to "rest" which means a 3-4 hours and you can get amazing room for just $25. So you might just entice a pretty woman to join you for a nooner.

Your message sparked a story a friend told me. We were walking and saw a sign for the bar. She stated that bar is for women because very handsome men would serve you drinks and talk with you. I guess like a juicy bar for women. The guys are like Korean Idols (which means like a celebrity). Well she went on to say that there are also room salons for women too where you rent a room and a very handsome man (men) serves you drinks and food. She told me that most women are very overwhelmed and too embarrassed by the guy and the whole situation. So most of the time the hired guy in the room is just having the most fun just teasing the girls and making them blush. BUT when the women who themselves work at room salons or juicy bars go to these women-oriented room salons they literally tear apart the hired men and humiliate the guy making him do all sorts of demeaning stuff. This was very funny because my friend was saying the last part with a very large evil smile and wide daydreaming eyes.


Hi guys,

My girl-friend and me enjoyed very much reading about your experiences of the nightlife in South Korea (thanks especially to TurtlePower.).

We will be in SK in July for the first time and we are looking for some nice entertainment in stripclubs, brothels or massage salons. Don't get me wrong its far away of beeing a sex tourism holiday (like we had it in Thailand.) BUT we would very much enjoy some erotic opportunities. After doing some research and reading we are getting the impression that its not thaaat simple, so some questions arose:

1. Is it difficult for a couple to get a girl with you for a reasonable price?

2. I read that a lot of Russian girls are working as prostitutes in SK. Is that true and could anyone recommend a place?

3. Do massage offer erotic massages for women / couples as well?

4. What about striptease clubs? They do not seem to be that common?

5. We very much enjoyed the girls in Thailand so thailandian girls would be fine as well.

6. Are there districts where foreigners are really welcomed?

7. And the 1000k question: Is there a facility that by any chance combines striptease, prostitition AND accomodation? That would be lovely.

Best,

Gg

[Turtle Power]

Sounds they'll trying to scam / squeeze you. Seems very expensive. I thought it would be cheaper outside of Seoul.

I couldn't imagine it would be that expensive. You'd probably be able to wine and dine a random normal hot Korean woman off the street for less than 300, 000won.

But who am I to talk,"I Miss Millenium"'s post just made me feel like a poor cheap-ass : (

I need to get a better paying job.


Sorry to disrupt forum etiquette like this, but "other areas" thread doesn't seem to get much traffic: Anyways, I'm in Ulsan, and I found a "foreigner's bar" called las vegas full of filipina chicks (many of them very hot). Reading the forum, my understanding is that there would be a barfine system (150K) , but I had a strange experience last week:

At Las Vegas Wed night, about 15 girls (assumingly all filipinas).7's & 8's all around. One of them caught my eye (Rachel) , so I bought her a drink. I asked if she would join me at my hotel for an hour. First she said she wasn't allowed to leave, but after some convincing she said she needed to ask her boss, and came back asking 400K won. This sounded pretty outrageous, so I countered with 250K won (still seemed quite high for Korea, but I was really digging this girl). She went away again and came back with her boss who wanted 300K won, and she wanted it all there on the spot. I told her I would pay 150K won bar fine and give the girl 150K, but she wouldn't budge. Furthermore, it was almost 2am and the place was devoid of customers. The girl was acting all interested and asked for my phone number to meet later, but the whole thing seemed kinda sketchy. I just had the feeling I would pay the 300K and then the girl would BS or try to upsell once we got to my hotel. Anyways, I just bailed (and girl didn't ever call). Can someone explain what was going on? Is this normal in Korea? This was my first (attempted) mongering in Korea outside of Itaewan, but I'm in Ulsan for a while and would really like to get some action specifically from Filipina girls. Any thoughts?

[Turtle Power]

That. That's fucking brilliant.


She did for me (quite well, in fact). YMMV. I did negotiate for it up front. I actually keep some porn videos (AR, deepthroat, etc) on my phone that I sometimes show to providers up front (very helpful in cases of language barriers, and typically goes over pretty well). Has served me quite well in my world travels, I would recommend the strategy in general.

[Catire]

Sorry to disrupt forum etiquette like this, but "other areas" thread doesn't seem to get much traffic: Anyways, I'm in Ulsan, and I found a "foreigner's bar" called las vegas full of filipina chicks (many of them very hot). Reading the forum, my understanding is that there would be a barfine system (150K) , but I had a strange experience last week:

At Las Vegas Wed night, about 15 girls (assumingly all filipinas).7's & 8's all around. One of them caught my eye (Rachel) , so I bought her a drink. I asked if she would join me at my hotel for an hour. First she said she wasn't allowed to leave, but after some convincing she said she needed to ask her boss, and came back asking 400K won. This sounded pretty outrageous, so I countered with 250K won (still seemed quite high for Korea, but I was really digging this girl). She went away again and came back with her boss who wanted 300K won, and she wanted it all there on the spot. I told her I would pay 150K won bar fine and give the girl 150K, but she wouldn't budge. Furthermore, it was almost 2am and the place was devoid of customers. The girl was acting all interested and asked for my phone number to meet later, but the whole thing seemed kinda sketchy. I just had the feeling I would pay the 300K and then the girl would BS or try to upsell once we got to my hotel. Anyways, I just bailed (and girl didn't ever call). Can someone explain what was going on? Is this normal in Korea? This was my first (attempted) mongering in Korea outside of Itaewan, but I'm in Ulsan for a while and would really like to get some action specifically from Filipina girls. Any thoughts? Dude, she's not a freelancer. Who do you think her "boss" is?

Korean mafioso. She might be lucky to get half of 300K. I'd bet a third or less.

This is what's meant by "[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)". She may have been actually trying to "freelance" by asking for you number for later, but you'd better bet she was probably being very discreet about it.

[Catire]

That's an awesome gf you have.

I've never seen a massage place for couples. But here is a link to a Google Translate page to ask "Do you accept couples?" It'll also give you an idea of what characters to look for if your sign searching.

http://translate.google.com/

#ko|en|%EC%BB%A4%ED%94%8C%EC%9C%BC%EB%A1%9C%20%ED%95%A0%EC%88%98%EC%9E%88%EC%96%before%EC%9A%94%3F%0A.

Probably the most foreigner friendly area is Itaewon just because there are so many of them there. Motels (everywhere) are very cheap during the day if you state that you just need to "rest" which means a 3-4 hours and you can get amazing room for just $25. So you might just entice a pretty woman to join you for a nooner.

Your message sparked a story a friend told me. We were walking and saw a sign for the bar. She stated that bar is for women because very handsome men would serve you drinks and talk with you. I guess like a juicy bar for women. The guys are like Korean Idols (which means like a celebrity). Well she went on to say that there are also room salons for women too where you rent a room and a very handsome man (men) serves you drinks and food. She told me that most women are very overwhelmed and too embarrassed by the guy and the whole situation. So most of the time the hired guy in the room is just having the most fun just teasing the girls and making them blush. BUT when the women who themselves work at room salons or juicy bars go to these women-oriented room salons they literally tear apart the hired men and humiliate the guy making him do all sorts of demeaning stuff. This was very funny because my friend was saying the last part with a very large evil smile and wide daydreaming eyes. There are many male room salons for Korean women in Gangnam. Their existence is no secret.

Wealthy adjummas come there looking for young boys with washboard abs, and take them to a love motel where they have to strip and do sexy dances for them and then do the dirty deed. This would be an attractive side job, but when I asked some Koreans about whether the guy has a choice whether to go or not to go with a female client, I was told you have no choice and have to go with whatever dirty old bat chooses you.

[Frank M]

Does anyone have info on a CL massage provider called Allee Runte. On some forum (forgot which one) there was a comment that such a provider was really a tranny. I am more then willing to TOFTT, but if she is really a he, then I would pass. Her pics look good, so if nothing comes back on he, are then the appointment is on.

Thanks in advance for any input.

Frank M.

PS I did return to the massage establishment that I reported on before with EXCELLENT results. She far exceeded my high expectations. It pays to be nice, tip well and to be a repeat customer.

[EisFlamme]

Yesterday I finally arrived in Seoul with a serious case of blue balls. Decided that I would go a bit off the beaten path and try some new places I didn't read about in the forum. Initially I had planned to hit Kangnam around 4pm to beat the office workers but traffic in Seoul was a ***** (as always) and I ended up there around 6. 30pm.

1. Mol-Di-Ba Anma (name only in Korean, this is how it would be read)

Walked from Yeoksam Station towards Seollung Station (I think). Around Bang Bang Plaza I turned into a side street an you could see a very stylish black cubicle at the end of it, calling itself Mol-Di-Ba (guess its supposed to mean 'Moldiva')

Way greeted by Mamasan and several guys. One of them let me to a room and I was welcomed by Ji-Yeon. She is about 1, 60m. Face is an 8. Body only a 6 (A cups and no ass, tiny belly). The way she washed me reminded me of the way, a mom would wash her kids: Very efficient, not caring whether you like it or not. My forebrain was greeted with a few rough rubs. I tried to touch her, but she didn't really encourage it. There was no kissing at all, which was fine with me because she is a smoker.

After the shower followed the B2B massage, to which she added a little big of fake moaning. Here I wished her tits would have been bigger, because it actually felt kind of nice. Then she started a BBBJ and Halleluja, she knew how to give a blowjob. No hands, just the mouth, great tongue action. After a while she stops, washes down the slippery stuff and we continue on the bed. Again, great BBBJ and also 69. When I started to lick her, the fake moaning changed to a genuine moaning and I could feel her clit swelling. When I started to DATY seriously she stopped sucking and just enjoyed it for a while. We then proceeded with cowgirl, and several other positions until I blew my load in missionary.

No cuddling afterwards, instead she instantly took a shower and lay then besides me to smoke (though she first asked if its ok). We talked for a while about this and that. I tried to convince her to teach me how to say 'blowjob' and stuff in Korean but she seriously told me that she didn't know how to say that and that I should not use this kind of language anyway, LOL. When the phone rang she gave me a last shower, helped me dress and hugged me.

Price: 190. 000 W.

I give the performance a C, no GFE, quite professional but the BJ helped a lot.

According to Ji-Yeon the Anma is foreigner friendly. I have a business card with a map and a number. As soon as I manage to pay the subscription (will be back in Europe on Thursday) I can PM you details.

2. Paradise Massage (again, only written in Korean)

After the Anma I decided to gamble a bit and went to the 7 Luck Casino. Started with 100. 000W and told myself: 'As soon as you have enough winnings for a BJ, you will stop. ' After an hour of roulette I had enough for a BJ by which I told myself: 'As soon as you have won enough for two BJ, you will stop! ' Of course I lost all my winnings, putting me back to square one. Because I had spent far two much time in taxis and subways on that day I decided that it would be nice to get an actual massage instead of a BJ. So I left the Casino, crossed the street and went into the first side street. There I turned left at the second street and walked until I saw a barber pole. Downstairs I was greeted by an older guy which first made me worry, but he assured me that there would be girls as well. After a quick shower I was greeted by a woman. Face was a 6, she was a bit heaver that the average Korean girl but still a nice body. Age about 30 I'the say. But: She gave an excellent massage! Really knew how to get rid of all the knots, asked her to work on my neck for longer than usual which she did. After she had taken care of my back, she removed my shorts and started to rub my dick into battle mode. It was a bit strange because I was still on my belly, so she made me flip on my back and started to get serious. While she gave me a HJ, I fingered her. Unfortunately she never fully removed her clothing. She started to enjoy my treatment and shivered while she never stopped rubbing me. When I started to increase my service she suddenly took one hand and began to finger my ass. I was like WTH? She didn't penetrate, just rubbed the entry and weirdly I enjoyed it. Took me not look to come and I shot my load at her. She giggled and told me that it was so much. Then she cleaned my and left the room, making me think that its over. But no, she returned and started to massage my legs, again excellently. It was so good that by the end of the session I was hard again. She noticed that with a laugh, gave me a few goodbye strokes but then made me put on my clothes.

Price: 80. 000 W.

The performance gets an A. Awesome massage and a very interesting HJ. Personwise she was very nice as well. According to her, foreigners are welcome.

3. VIP massage.

No, this is not the famous VIP massage (at least I think so). This one is about 500 m down the street from the Kangnam Casino (same street, just opposite) at the corner building.

Because the previous lady had left me with a hard one I wanted to get a BJ. But then I got lazy again so I decided to get another massage with happy ending, just to get a comparison to the previous one.

The rooms were nicer than before. I was greeted by Ji-Ah (I think that was her name) , very thin girl, nice ass, A cups. 7 face, cute and quirky personality.

Her massage could not be compared to the one I got at Paradise but I had a great chat with her. She told me about herself (she's a student) , where she would like to travel etc. When she started to stroke my dick, I planned to return the favor and tried to remove her underwear. But she just smiled and said this wasn't allowed by the house. So I rub her through the underwear which she seems to enjoy, because she positions herself better and spreads the legs a bit more. But every time I try to remove that dreaded slip she smiles and says no. I am persistent and tell her that I just would like to return her favor. She replied that I would have to compensate her if I am serious. When I ask her how much she would expect she tells me that it would be up to me. I was almost broke at that point to I didn't take her offer. It took her a bit longer to finish me off, considering that I already had shot my load twice. After I came she washes me and plays a little bit with my dick (giggling and talking to it, LOL). Gave a her tip, because she was a really nice girl.

Price: 80. 000W.

Her massage was crap but the HJ was very nice. She really tried to stretch the experience as long as possible which I really appreciated. Also she was great to talk to.

According to her they service a lot of foreigners.

Good luck, let me know when you have questions.

[Yarichin]

I'm here for a month or more and curious. But I'm afraid I'll be let down.

After going to soaplands and what not in Japan what can I do that won't terribly disappoint me here? I speak zero Korean and have only been lucky in normal clubs with 7's that happen to speak English.

Also are ya'll really going to do a room salon event? Mid 20's here that's up for it.

[Jack Rabbit]

Well after 5 years I am officially banned. I had been enjoying the young talent, however things have suddenly taken a turn. The troll mamas an scared away most of her girls, probably by working them ragged. Leaving only 1 worn out 19 year old, who recently tried to commit suicide (bandages around her wrist). Being the shit magnet that I am, she starting texting me on her days off, wanting to meet. Apparently, the troll caught wind of this, and put a stop to that pretty quickly, saying she could not have "feelings" for customers.

Friday evening, I received a cold reception from the mamasan (also because I pay the lowest rate but tip the girl directly). You would think after 5 years of my business she would be more welcoming.

Pretty intense GFE, she even told me she would defy mamsan and meet me next week. She became pretty emotional during the action, and wouldn't let me finish. Mamas an kept called because I exceeded the Friday night time limit, and literally busted in the door to their "apartment". My SP started yelling and crying, saying I was a bad guy, yada yada.

Had to wander down the hill, to finish off with a very accommodating new provider.

WTF was that all about? I have had numerous 3 ways with her fellow SPs, yet she gets Korean wiggy on me. I will admit that I will miss that place. Enjoy but be warned!

[Ezinho]

Well after 5 years I am officially banned. I had been enjoying the young talent, however things have suddenly taken a turn. The troll mamas an scared away most of her girls, probably by working them ragged. Leaving only 1 worn out 19 year old, who recently tried to commit suicide (bandages around her wrist). Being the shit magnet that I am, she starting texting me on her days off, wanting to meet. Apparently, the troll caught wind of this, and put a stop to that pretty quickly, saying she could not have "feelings" for customers.

Friday evening, I received a cold reception from the mamasan (also because I pay the lowest rate but tip the girl directly). You would think after 5 years of my business she would be more welcoming.

Pretty intense GFE, she even told me she would defy mamsan and meet me next week. She became pretty emotional during the action, and wouldn't let me finish. Mamas an kept called because I exceeded the Friday night time limit, and literally busted in the door to their "apartment". My SP started yelling and crying, saying I was a bad guy, yada yada.

Had to wander down the hill, to finish off with a very accommodating new provider.

WTF was that all about? I have had numerous 3 ways with her fellow SPs, yet she gets Korean wiggy on me. I will admit that I will miss that place. Enjoy but be warned! Wow, JR, what a story. Personally, that troll mamasan is too much for me to handle. She seems to be bipolar or something; one minute she's yelling at you about the price, and the next minute she's calm and rational. My un-professional opinion, anyway. It's too bad because she seems to have access to some nice, young talent, which is just what the Hill needs, IMHO. Too bad she's mentally ill.

Speaking of young talent, has anyone seen Min Hee, the girl with the nice ass that used to work at Nymph and then VIP? I went to VIP last week early in the morning (5 am) and she wasn't there. Ji Hye was there, but she's starting to look quite ragged; she really should have gotten out of this game years ago. She still has big tits but they're sagging. Oh well, still good for a quick BJ / HJ, I guess.

[Frank M]

i decided to toftt and make an appointment with the lady advertising a massage on cl in the therapeutic section. (ad below) the hardest part was setting up the appointment via e-mail. she does have a phone and i will call her for a future appointments.

she is thai, around 5'2' and 110-120lbs. dressed, she looks great. naked, she looks even better. her pricing structure was 80k for a massage and 150k for a naked massage and extras. i asked if fs or daty were options but she said no (damn!)

the time with her was excellent. her massage consisted of a full body (front and back) pressure and stretching massage and a full body (front and back) oil massage. the massage was advertised as an hour but it lasted closer to 1. 5 hrs. be forewarned, her pressure massage can be a little painful. she finished wiht a combination hj / bbbj.

while she was naked during the time together, i limited myself to minimal roaming. i do not think she would have stopped me if i wanted to do more, but for the first visit, i wanted to more of a gentleman.

'looking for massage by pretty girl?

i can provide you very relaxful massage service at comfort of your hotel room.

feel free to ask for more details.

outcall massage to hotel only. '

[Incocknito]

Hi,

Going to a BIZ trip to Seoul end of next week. I'll stay at Ibis located between Seollung station and COEX@DAECHI-Dong.

I am looking for massage parlor (Anma) with full service.

Recommendations are highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your comments!

[Firebird]

Late to provide short report for one week stay in Seoul beginning of May. Using the valued information on the Forum made my way to the Itaewon Bar district. Better known as the "hooker hill".

Easiest way to get the is to take taxi, perhaps to a know landmark such as the Hamilton Hotel. With the hotel to your back walk left several blocks until you reach intersection with Donkin Donuts. Cross the street toward Dunkin donut and keep walking. You are there. Short distance further "ahead" and street turn to left you will see small bars.

As you walk by a door it may open and get invited in for some "fun and play". Negotiate your price.

I tried several but the worst was ABC. Crazy mamasan sat with us. What a pain. Then led by the young girl to dirty room across street. I would not repeat that again.

I did have couple of good sessions at Nymph. Easy going and lot of fun.

You will also find "bars" where you get invited to pay for girlie drink. Price is steep so watch your bill as it can add up rather quickly.

Hooker hill is good option for some fast fun but does not compare to action to be had in Thailand or Hong Kong.

Stay safe.

[Jojo407]

Went to the Hill on this rainy Tuesday.

Went to see Na Na at Texas to inquire about AR and BBBJ. She said 200, I said maybe next time. I want AR but not for 2 large.

Later, I went to see Bean at Bridge. Some have made a post or two about her. Sexy as hell. Big, thick, stumpy legs with a slim torso and wide hips. Not a bubble butt, but still great. She's short and has a pretty face. Her English sounds a lot cuter than most Korean girls, especially cuter. I got FS for 100. Which is a deal if you ask me. She said 150 at first but I talked her down on account of the weather and the time of the month, at the end of the month not many people have money[most get paid on the 1st or 15th].

The service was pretty good. She's really stumpy when she takes off her clothes. But also sexy. Deep throat BJ to the sack, nearly. It was covered but what the hey. Some ball licking. Fake moans, no body kissing, not really GFE. Not really "tight" if you know what I mean, and I'm not average or small by any standard.

The service was good but I "completed" a little too fast on account of the ass I was dealing with. I have a thing for thick girls. I should have fapped before coming. I just didn't really plan ahead.

Wish she gave me a Vitamin C shot at the end like some places I go to. That's a sign of me getting spoiled. In the USA would you ever expect a juice or vitamin see shot after a provider visit. Never!

Will repeat but will prepare more next time.

[Rick Rock]

Bros,

Is there any consensus on the proper rate for the hill? I've seen people say they've paid from $50. $150 USD here on the board, I've been quoted 60, 000. 150, 000 Won when there myself and usually talk down to 50, 000-80, 000.

The rates don't make a lot of sense to me as you get most of the worn out girls on the hill performing quickies whereas in other areas, even as a foreigner, you can get FS for $40-50 (see my posts about Jinju for instance).

What say ye?

[Ezinho]

Bros,

Is there any consensus on the proper rate for the hill? I've seen people say they've paid from $50. $150 USD here on the board, I've been quoted 60, 000. 150, 000 Won when there myself and usually talk down to 50, 000-80, 000.

The rates don't make a lot of sense to me as you get most of the worn out girls on the hill performing quickies whereas in other areas, even as a foreigner, you can get FS for $40-50 (see my posts about Jinju for instance).

What say ye? Ho boy, you're opening a can of worms with this question!

This is something I've often wondered about as well; like you, I've noticed the prices on here vary wildly from one monger to the next. I would say, a lot of it depends on your negotiation skills. I bet (or, assume may be a better word) that a lot of guys pay the first price that the girls ask without even trying to negotioate.

Is it safe to assume that most girls quote 50k for a HJ. 100k for a BJ, and 200k for quickie FS? And we can bargain the price down around 50% for these "activities"? Am I totally off base here?

What say you, Seoul thread? Let the debate begin!

[Dodgers55]

I am in Korea with older relatives and didn't want to monger around the RLDs by myself. Although as a gyopo tourist who could speak korean at a fluent elementary level, I could probably have fun. From what I read and heard in Seoul the 588 Cheongnyangni area is still the best. The Yongsan area is winding down as the area is under redevelopment and Miari Texas area is a mixed bag. And Yeongdeungpo is suffering from a brunt of crackdowns. Itaewon's Hooker Hill isn't really a RLD since it's mostly juicy bars and street walkers, locals don't really go there as Koreans are and always will be xenophobes. For Koreans, it appears like they have moved on from RLDs and have Americanized. That means the action has become mostly costly, and operate through escort services and massage parlors and room salons. All of the internet sites that show this information are in Korean and as someone who can't really type or read Korean all that well, I can't work myself searching on Daum and Naver. Mongering will become harder and harder for us English speakers going forward.

So I did what people who don't need FS (out of convenience or fear of STD) went to the Gangnam Bang Bang Junction area. For those looking for a GFE rub with HE, there's plenty to try. If one place doesn't accept foreigners (waygukins) try the next one. With so many choices in one area, you can't miss.

To get there take the #3 line to Yangjae station and exit #3 (look at the map and head towards Bang Bang Junction (Sa-guh-ri). This is a major intersection and you will see the Prudential Building, a Starbucks, a Dell store and a huge clothing store called Bang Bang. You can also take the #2 line to Gangnam station, exit I think #6 and head towards Yangjae Station, look at street signs, can't miss it.

Head in the direction of the clothing store and you will find Cool and Raining Man. You enter through the place that is a car wash and you will see a sign directing you to either place. Go a little further and you will find Angel and in an upper floor you'll see a legitimate looking massage place, that prolly has a shady side. Cross the street you will see Belle and in the building next to Belle you will see another massage place called 1/2 Massage I think. Head in the other direction of the intersection and you'll see a huge massage place that looks like a love motel, called Rain Massage I think?

The HJ joints (which the attendant referred to as "soft-touch") never have barber poles, don't even advertise as massage sometimes but the giveaway is that it's named with exotic words and as shops that normally don't say anything else (Cool, Angel, Belle, Raining Man, Ivy, VIP, Cleopatra). They operate primarily though appointments but go there before 5PM on a weekday or weekend and they should squeeze you in. You know you are at one when you have to buzz to get in or be denied entrance. Cool was 75, 000 won. Which I think is the most expensive because they have the prettiest girls I think.

I think if you act like you've been there and know what you are doing and know some korean, likely you will have success getting in. You take off your shoes, change into slippers, go into a room, change into a robe, take a shower and buzz the attendant. Then you wait a few minutes, then chat with the girl, get a short massage, roam your hands all around, get your happy ending and a vitac500 or juice. Like with everything in life YMMV. Sometimes the girl may stay fully clothed, but usually will at least be topless, some places fully nude with a short BBBJ. If the girl likes you, you should be able to touch everywhere, if not then you may face resistance. These places are tolerated by the authorities because they don't involve G2G contact.

Korean girls who work at these places have doll faces, and even girls with implants are still relatively small but you may find a thicker girl with awesome naturals. Koreans are bony in the rear unlike the ladies of Japan who typically have some back. Don't believe the age they tell you as K-Girls age very slowly and 28 year old girl can very well pass as a 22 year old. If you add 5 to the age that you think they are on first glance, you are probably right.

As for barber shop pole places. They are not the same as An-Mas and shouldn't be referred to as such. Barber poles attached to a Sauna, are likely legit and usually involve hair cutting and massages given in a public bath or jimjilbang. Barber poles pointing to a location in the basement or upstairs is probably the ones you need for the good stuff esp if they are still open past 10pm. Places on the ground floor usually cut hair although may have a secret room attached for additional services if the outside windows are frosted. If you aren't picky I think these are good places to relax for 40, 000 to 80, 000 won. Barber poles that spin around a little slowly and says stuff on it are for sports massage places. They tend to cost more but offer better services. If it spins real slow and has a picture of a woman, they are beauty salons that only cut hair.

Actual An-Ma places (soapy massage joints with FS) are not that easy to find but are around. But be fearful of crackdowns and shelling out over 100, 000 and often 180, 000 won for a girl that may not be all that hot or friendly may not be the best. Locals probably frequent places where they possibly make reservations in advance for girls they know are good.

I haven't been inside a Love Motel, but I guess they operate through street girls around the places and through call girl services. I imagine business cards inside?

Everyone's dream is to be able to go to a high end room salon and take a girl for 2cha afterwards. But who has that kind of dough, unless it's on the company card. Noraebangs and DVD bangs are sometimes a poor man's room salon in disguise, but when getting a helper don't expect a stunner.

Classified ads and business cards I imagine are no different than in the states. Probably an agency and you never get the girl pictured. Becoming a more first world, wealthy nation seems to mean that you become more and more like the USA Things become harder, more costly and less and less accessible to those are not in the know. There is always Thailand and the Phillipines which should be good for a few decades.

[Jojo407]

Ho boy, you're opening a can of worms with this question!

This is something I've often wondered about as well; like you, I've noticed the prices on here vary wildly from one monger to the next. I would say, a lot of it depends on your negotiation skills. I bet (or, assume may be a better word) that a lot of guys pay the first price that the girls ask without even trying to negotioate.

Is it safe to assume that most girls quote 50k for a HJ. 100k for a BJ, and 200k for quickie FS? And we can bargain the price down around 50% for these "activities"? Am I totally off base here?

What say you, Seoul thread? Let the debate begin! It depends on the girl and other factors. For instance, the big girls on the top of the hill don't charge much. Some of the more talented providers on the hill will charge a lot because they can get away with it. Also it depends on the night. Are they in a bad mood? Is business slow? Do they need to pay bills? Do you look wealthy? Are you ugly or attractive? What race are you? Etc. Etc. It really all just depends on a lot of factors. Most important is the tier of girl you're dealing with. You can get a FS for practically nothing, but with who? Think on that.

[Brian 3232]

In response to the person below me that posted all that gangnam places in the bang bang area.

I won't recommend going to cool if your standards are really high. The quality of women right now is a little low compared to before. I would wait until the summer season. I've seen about 7 of the girls there. 2 were okay but not spectacular. I know the employees and they told me they showed me the best so I know there isn't anyone better.

I've been to belle (not recently) but the girls are not great over there. Unless you don't really look at face much. You can find girls in the 5-7. 5 range at belle. I've seen 9s and 10s at cool before.

I went to angel once and walked out after seeing the girl. The place doesn't seem to clean either. Not going there again.

Officetels are where its at these days. You got to know the right ones tho. Plus the girls are at officetels much like the girls at HJ places, are "normal" college-aged students working, as opposed to massage parlors, where full time workers make a living. I am done with massage parlors and room salons for the time being. If you can afford the jumos and ten pro's go for it, but I would stay away from the lower class ones.

[Coitus68]

I haven't been inside a Love Motel, but I guess they operate through street girls around the places and through call girl services. I imagine business cards inside?No. Love Hotels don't operate that way. You don't go there and hope to score something with flyers and the like just laying around. You're supposed to line something up first (p4p from internet / newspapers / wherever or freebies found at a club) , THEN check-in to the hotel. The hotel is the last piece of the puzzle, not the first.

Love Hotels are not only for trysts anymore. They are the cheapest and most bang-for-your-buck when it comes to travel accommodation in Korea. Compare W50, 000 for a Love Hotel with jacuzzi, large screen TV, computer, internet, maybe even a Wii or PS3 to a regular W250, 000 at Lotte which gives you none of that.

[Kimchi Warrior]

To put what I take to be the point of Coitus' message more bluntly: no one is interested in what you've read, heard or imagined. The three words that appear with depressing frequency in your "report". Check back in when you've got some actual intel based on genuine experience, grasshopper.

[Zarcady]

I am in Korea with older relatives and didn't want to monger around the RLDs by myself. Although as a gyopo tourist who could speak korean at a fluent elementary level, I could probably have fun. From what I read and heard in Seoul the 588 Cheongnyangni area is still the best. The Yongsan area is winding down as the area is under redevelopment and Miari Texas area is a mixed bag. And Yeongdeungpo is suffering from a brunt of crackdowns. Itaewon's Hooker Hill isn't really a RLD since it's mostly juicy bars and street walkers, locals don't really go there as Koreans are and always will be xenophobes. For Koreans, it appears like they have moved on from RLDs and have Americanized. That means the action has become mostly costly, and operate through escort services and massage parlors and room salons. All of the internet sites that show this information are in Korean and as someone who can't really type or read Korean all that well, I can't work myself searching on Daum and Naver. Mongering will become harder and harder for us English speakers going forward.RLDs are still in business and is not going anywhere despite the recent protest from the hookers LOL. I suggest you try Miari at Gireum Station as its still the biggest RLD I've been to in Korea. I would put the estimate at over 300 girls to choose from as there are winding pathways like a maze full of stores to choose from and I find the bang for buck to be the best there as they allow for little extras like talking with the girls (only with 2 or more people) and drinking beers with them while getting a HJ and what they call a mulaebangak (like traditional water wheel) where you get a short BJ from each of the girls that are with you (so the more people, the more girls there are) , before going to do the deed. All for 70 bucks. Other RLDs are only about doing the deed and that might work for some, but I feel that it leaves me more satisfied enjoying myself a little bit and getting to know the girl before doing it. But I admit the A row girls at 588 are usually of better quality (although you can find equally hot ones at miari. Might have to do a little searching though) but a much worse service since they know they are hot, and you are only really paying for their looks. Nothing a little tip won't fix though. Goes a long way.

Or else there are so many other establishments you can hit up besides the RLDs. Personally prefer what I like to call sex motels where they have their own selection of girls. A good one close to the Yeoksam station, next to the three big anmas there. Can't remember the name now sorry. Maybe next time I'm there I can provide a detailed report.

[Enchoo]

I find them accurate within reasonable limits.

[PolarisRay]

I am in Korea with older relatives and didn't want to monger around the RLDs by myself. Although as a gyopo tourist who could speak korean at a fluent elementary level, I could probably have fun. From what I read and heard in Seoul the 588 Cheongnyangni area is still the best. The Yongsan area is winding down as the area is under redevelopment and Miari Texas area is a mixed bag. And Yeongdeungpo is suffering from a brunt of crackdowns. Itaewon's Hooker Hill isn't really a RLD since it's mostly juicy bars and street walkers, locals don't really go there as Koreans are and always will be xenophobes. For Koreans, it appears like they have moved on from RLDs and have Americanized. That means the action has become mostly costly, and operate through escort services and massage parlors and room salons. All of the internet sites that show this information are in Korean and as someone who can't really type or read Korean all that well, I can't work myself searching on Daum and Naver. Mongering will become harder and harder for us English speakers going forward.

So I did what people who don't need FS (out of convenience or fear of STD) went to the Gangnam Bang Bang Junction area. For those looking for a GFE rub with HE, there's plenty to try. If one place doesn't accept foreigners (waygukins) try the next one. With so many choices in one area, you can't miss.

To get there take the #3 line to Yangjae station and exit #3 (look at the map and head towards Bang Bang Junction (Sa-guh-ri). This is a major intersection and you will see the Prudential Building, a Starbucks, a Dell store and a huge clothing store called Bang Bang. You can also take the #2 line to Gangnam station, exit I think #6 and head towards Yangjae Station, look at street signs, can't miss it.

Head in the direction of the clothing store and you will find Cool and Raining Man. You enter through the place that is a car wash and you will see a sign directing you to either place. Go a little further and you will find Angel and in an upper floor you'll see a legitimate looking massage place, that prolly has a shady side. Cross the street you will see Belle and in the building next to Belle you will see another massage place called 1/2 Massage I think. Head in the other direction of the intersection and you'll see a huge massage place that looks like a love motel, called Rain Massage I think?

The HJ joints (which the attendant referred to as "soft-touch") never have barber poles, don't even advertise as massage sometimes but the giveaway is that it's named with exotic words and as shops that normally don't say anything else (Cool, Angel, Belle, Raining Man, Ivy, VIP, Cleopatra). They operate primarily though appointments but go there before 5PM on a weekday or weekend and they should squeeze you in. You know you are at one when you have to buzz to get in or be denied entrance. Cool was 75, 000 won. Which I think is the most expensive because they have the prettiest girls I think.

I think if you act like you've been there and know what you are doing and know some korean, likely you will have success getting in. You take off your shoes, change into slippers, go into a room, change into a robe, take a shower and buzz the attendant. Then you wait a few minutes, then chat with the girl, get a short massage, roam your hands all around, get your happy ending and a vitac500 or juice. Like with everything in life YMMV. Sometimes the girl may stay fully clothed, but usually will at least be topless, some places fully nude with a short BBBJ. If the girl likes you, you should be able to touch everywhere, if not then you may face resistance. These places are tolerated by the authorities because they don't involve G2G contact.

Korean girls who work at these places have doll faces, and even girls with implants are still relatively small but you may find a thicker girl with awesome naturals. Koreans are bony in the rear unlike the ladies of Japan who typically have some back. Don't believe the age they tell you as K-Girls age very slowly and 28 year old girl can very well pass as a 22 year old. If you add 5 to the age that you think they are on first glance, you are probably right.

As for barber shop pole places. They are not the same as An-Mas and shouldn't be referred to as such. Barber poles attached to a Sauna, are likely legit and usually involve hair cutting and massages given in a public bath or jimjilbang. Barber poles pointing to a location in the basement or upstairs is probably the ones you need for the good stuff esp if they are still open past 10pm. Places on the ground floor usually cut hair although may have a secret room attached for additional services if the outside windows are frosted. If you aren't picky I think these are good places to relax for 40, 000 to 80, 000 won. Barber poles that spin around a little slowly and says stuff on it are for sports massage places. They tend to cost more but offer better services. If it spins real slow and has a picture of a woman, they are beauty salons that only cut hair.

Actual An-Ma places (soapy massage joints with FS) are not that easy to find but are around. But be fearful of crackdowns and shelling out over 100, 000 and often 180, 000 won for a girl that may not be all that hot or friendly may not be the best. Locals probably frequent places where they possibly make reservations in advance for girls they know are good.

I haven't been inside a Love Motel, but I guess they operate through street girls around the places and through call girl services. I imagine business cards inside?

Everyone's dream is to be able to go to a high end room salon and take a girl for 2cha afterwards. But who has that kind of dough, unless it's on the company card. Noraebangs and DVD bangs are sometimes a poor man's room salon in disguise, but when getting a helper don't expect a stunner.

Classified ads and business cards I imagine are no different than in the states. Probably an agency and you never get the girl pictured. Becoming a more first world, wealthy nation seems to mean that you become more and more like the USA Things become harder, more costly and less and less accessible to those are not in the know. There is always Thailand and the Phillipines which should be good for a few decades.How to get there:

Tell a cab driver to go to Nonhyun-dong Kyungbok Apt Junction (&44221; &48373; 4&44144; &47532. It is situated on main road and a small alley. Follow the alley and on the left side, there is a building with the sign S-Top. Take the elevator to 3rd or 5th floor. There you. I think they charge around KRW 180, 000 for everything. You can kick back in its lounge as well and if you want, they give you a Thai msg as a compliment.

[Ezinho]

RLDs are still in business and is not going anywhere despite the recent protest from the hookers LOL.Yeah, but what about Yongsan RLD? I walked around there a few nights ago and it looked like a scene out of Mad Maxx; the shops were either shut down, or in some cases, looked like they had been demolished. Anyone know what happened to all the girls that worked there? Have any of them migrated to Itaewon / the Hill?

Hooked up with a cute girl yesterday afternoon, around 5 pm or so, at Tiffany Bar. A new girl for the Hill I think. Brown highlights in hair, nice firm tits, no English, looked late-20s or so. Semi GFE with LFK, I'd recommend.

[Quinella]

In response to the person below me that posted all that gangnam places in the bang bang area.

I won't recommend going to cool if your standards are really high. The quality of women right now is a little low compared to before. I would wait until the summer season. I've seen about 7 of the girls there. 2 were okay but not spectacular. I know the employees and they told me they showed me the best so I know there isn't anyone better.

I've been to belle (not recently) but the girls are not great over there. Unless you don't really look at face much. You can find girls in the 5-7. 5 range at belle. I've seen 9s and 10s at cool before.

I went to angel once and walked out after seeing the girl. The place doesn't seem to clean either. Not going there again.

Officetels are where its at these days. You got to know the right ones tho. Plus the girls are at officetels much like the girls at HJ places, are "normal" college-aged students working, as opposed to massage parlors, where full time workers make a living. I am done with massage parlors and room salons for the time being. If you can afford the jumos and ten pro's go for it, but I would stay away from the lower class ones.Any tips on finding these officetels? And what's a jumo and ten pro?

[Yarichin]

I'd really like to find out how how to do the officetels.

Heading to clubs in Hongdae tonight but would like backup in case language is an issue.

Also, I speak only a few survival phrases of Korean. Any tips or good normal clubs to meet girls? I'm in 20s and take care of myself.

1 more thing. Ran out of condoms while in Europe and forgot to buy. Where can I buy normal sized ones here?

Thanks!

[Bradley1]

Back from Korea but I'm going back again next month.

First of all, Zacardy. Could you find the information on sex motels? Or even how to find them? Also an updated report on RLD would be great too and I'd so appreciat eit.

Preface: I am Korean and can speak it well enough that people don't suspect anything except that I might be an idiot when I use words wrong.

I first stayed in Kangnam and I thought it'd be easy to find some hot Korean girls. Boy, was I wrong. I walked around all around Yeoksam, and I saw a lot of pink signs, but they were for restaurants, dentists, skin clinics, hair salons. Everything but.

Then I saw a couple of places that had "Ma Sa Ji" or Massage but I did not want to waste my time on something that might not be a sure thing. Also saw a Thai Massage place but I have no idea what that means and I wanted a Korean girl.

I picked up those fliers of naked Japanese girls, but they were for officetels and I don't know how I'd even find them even if they gave me an address. I was hoping to find one for chuljang massage (or outcall massage) but nope.

I thought about hitting up a room salon as a last resort, but I'm not that rich.

Finally, I hailed a taxi and asked him to take me to anma. He seemed taken aback, saying I probably didn't need to take a taxi to find one, but.

He took me a long, long way from where I started (near Gangnam Station) and I ended up at a place called Hera Anma for a 3, 000 won taxi ride.

I don't know directions, but if you hail a taxi, I have a feeling he'll know exactly where it is. Reasons follow.

Now. I've been to plenty of AMPs in America, and they are usually shady seedy places.

But what the fuck? I go in and I'm greeted by like five different waiter type guys (young Korean guys with big hair) and by a woman who I guess is the manager, and another woman who is behind a desk.

Menu is:

200, 000 won for 60 minutes.

220, 000 won for 60 minutes with multiple pops.

250, 000 won for 2 girls. 30 minutes each.

30, 000 won for sleepover (?) and 15 minutes of something next morning. Not sure what that meant.

Anyway, they provide you beverages, a locker room, a shower area and everything. But here's the most shocking part.

There are four floors to this place at least, each with at least 10 rooms. I don't know if each room actually has a girl working inside of it, but there must be a lot. Each floor has its own manager and each room is a big bedroom with its own table shower!

WOW. This was like a luxury massage parlor. Or maybe all Korean anmas are like that?

I went a couple of times, and I was on a different floor each time seeing different people. Some people may feel uncomfortable with seeing so many waiters and managers, and they all say "Goodbye" at the end in unison when you leave. Also you'll probably see other Korean customers there as there's a lounge area and stuff and the locker room and the shower area. If you're a shy type of person, you'll be a little shocked but you'll get used to it.

Okay, the girls.

First of all, they provide a mean table shower massage and baby oil bodyrub and fuck if that's what you want. Just like you see in those Japanese soapland videos. Or you can do it on the bed.

They provide BBBJ. And they lick your asshole like crazy. I'm not talking about a kiss or lick or two. I'm talking they lick the shit out of your asshole.

HOWEVER, I left underwhelmed.

1. Despite the BBBJ and crazy rimming, they're pretty mechanical. I didn't even try to DATY or kiss becaues there would be no emotion at all behind it. They don't even hug you while you're banging them. Just stare at the wall.

2. The girls are OK. But not as hot as I expected. In there 20's sure. But I was hoping for some sort of knockout. I think it might actually be easier to find a hotter Korean girl in the USA, though young age is not guaranteed, but age is just a number.

My theory for why that is. My opinion and they could be completely wrong. Chime in with your own opinion.

1. The hot girls probably work in room salons, and even if they go out and have sex with customers, they do not consider themselves prostitutes! I heard a room salon girl tell me she did not like to share the bathwater with prostitutes! Weird! So if a hot girl decides to work in straight up prostitution, I think they either go to Japan or Australia or America because they are embarassed to do it in their own country.

2. The girls are too young to have made enough money maybe? To be perfectly honest, I've never seen a knockout Korean girl in the USA who was in her 20's. But 30 and up, yes. My guess is by then, they've made a ton of money, enough for a buttload of plastic surgery (some girls spend %24100, 000 on face alone) and a boob job.

3. I only went to one anma, and only saw two girls, so I only saw the lackluster crop. Maybe there are actress / model quality girls who really make you feel like their boyfriend but I just went to the wrong place or saw the wrong girls.

Again, I could be wrong.

Second report:

I was in Gwangju and stayed at a motel because it's cheaper. They had tissue boxes with numbers to Dabangs (coffee girls). For 10, 000 won for coffee plus 150, 000 for the whole thing. I called one up and just gave my room number, I guess they knew where I was from caller I'd.

Girl showed up. Not knockout but not ugly. She was young at least. She told me the whole system, and when I tried to negotiate. She told me that I should just see a prostitute instead.

WTF? What's with room salon girls and coffee girls thinking they're different from a prostitute? I don't understand it, but whatever.

Anyway, she asked me if I needed a condom, so. BBFS is available if you are into it.

Also, she was a lot less mechanical than the anma girls. Lot of kissing and hugging and it actually felt like I was having sex with a girl. That was my one experience, so maybe the girl was nice, or maybe they're all like that, I don't know.

Again, I would appreciate more info on the sex motels in Kangnam! Also, which RLDs in Seoul are open.

Else I'm just going to head back down to Gwangju and order dabangs all night.

[Bradley1]

Again, if anyone could provide me with information on the RLD districts or sex motels in Seoul and elsewhere, I'd appreciate it.

Such as exactly what is open and what the quality of the girls are.

Also, if anyone is familiar with "full salons" where you get drinks and a girl for 300, 000 won please provide info on those too. I tried to ask a taxi and he had no idea what I was talking about.

Also last request. If anyone knows exactly the room salon process (like obviously you buy drinks, but do you tip the waiter like in a booking club? Do you tip the girl or is that included in the drinks? What prices should I expect going alone? And what price should I expect for takeout?)

Sorry to be a needy idiot, but you already know from my previous report that I will be back to provide further information.

Last funny story. I saw on a blog before coming to Korea that love motels are a good alternative to real hotels as they are nice and cheap. But the write rsaid he suspected that there was a camera in his room.

Now I know what he means. I was fiddling with the computer in my room, then I was messing with my laptop when I got a call from downstairs asking me if Internet was working, if I had a laptop and if that was working, and I was like. WTF.

I guess I can rest assured that it was a 50 year old ajumma manning the desk, so she probably wasn't trying to jack off to hidden cams but.

[TieflingRogue]

Try miari, supposedly one of the biggest RLD in Seoul. It's right off of line 4 at the Gireum station.

Search these forums for Miari and you will find a lot of information. Should cost you 70K. 100K won for short time (1 pop).

I don't know anything about room salons, kiss bangs, etc. But would love to try a Dabang. But being a white guy (although a youngish, handsome enough one) not sure how that would work out for me.


Again, if anyone could provide me with information on the RLD districts or sex motels in Seoul and elsewhere, I'd appreciate it.

Such as exactly what is open and what the quality of the girls are.

Also, if anyone is familiar with "full salons" where you get drinks and a girl for 300, 000 won please provide info on those too. I tried to ask a taxi and he had no idea what I was talking about.

Also last request. If anyone knows exactly the room salon process (like obviously you buy drinks, but do you tip the waiter like in a booking club? Do you tip the girl or is that included in the drinks?

What prices should I expect going alone? And what price should I expect for takeout?)

Sorry to be a needy idiot, but you already know from my previous report that I will be back to provide further information.

Last funny story. I saw on a blog before coming to Korea that love motels are a good alternative to real hotels as they are nice and cheap. But the write rsaid he suspected that there was a camera in his room.

Now I know what he means. I was fiddling with the computer in my room, then I was messing with my laptop when I got a call from downstairs asking me if Internet was working, if I had a laptop and if that was working, and I was like. WTF.

I guess I can rest assured that it was a 50 year old ajumma manning the desk, so she probably wasn't trying to jack off to hidden cams but.

[Zarcady]

To those asking about officetels, sorry to burst your bubble but if you cannot speak korean, it will be impossible for you to locate and book these services. Officetels work on discreet information (sometimes not so discreet on the way they advertise their services online. But still you need a korean social security number to be able to view these information) and you need to be able to speak korean since you have to book their service. You cannot just turn up to any officetels since first of all, there are millions of officetels and most of them are housed by normal koreans and second of all, these places are pretty busy these days since officetels are the 'trendy' thing these days. Maybe if you have a korean acquaintance, he can help you out. Usually around 130k for 1 hour. 1 pop. There's one in gangnam that does 150k for 1 hour. 2 pops, about 10 girls working. Alot of restrictions though, most places will not allow bareback (if you are into that) and drunk and rowdy people are usually kicked out. Need to keep your manners.

Full Salons are a mix of Buchangdong style hardcore sex establishments plus an added 2cha afterwards. Again, hard to find these places if you speak no korean (taxi drivers will claim to not know these places, unless they are sponsored by an establishment. And only then will take you to the place that will pay him to take you guys there) , but these places are again are the 'thing' these days. 300k for everything, you get wiskey (beware as some places give you fake wiskey, and make sure the bottles are sealed) , girls. 2cha. Some places have special events called the hwangjae (king in korean) , pretty much means threesome. You get what they call lip service in the rooms, drinks, fun and play for as many pops as you want (if you are tired, they will keep sucking your johnson until it goes hard again. Their aim is to drain the guy as much as possible until he is beyond satisfied) , then after this 1st round, you go to 2nd round which is basically 1 on 1 with the girl in a room. Not bad, and definitely good value for a good night out. Some of the bigger places in gangnam have over 100 girls working in one night, will be impossible not to find one that you like.

Zarcady

[Zarcady]

Anyone have any info on the 1% anma at bang bang saguri? Apparently the highest class anma establishment in Gangnam. Heard it used to be hella expensive but now the quality dropped down or something. Haven't been but might try it out if anyone has previous experience there

[Bradley1]

Zarcady,

What are your thoughts on the quality of the girls at officetels and the full salons?

Are they hot or plain or worse?

The girls I saw in Korea all looked nice with their clothes on, and looked like normal Korean girls. The ones at the anma may have looked a little bit more fashionable, but all of them, when they took their clothes off, was kind of a disappointment.

In America, Korean escorts and massage parlors, it is not hard to find a knockout toned body with nice tits, and while not as easy to find, it is possible to find someone with a face to match their awesome body.

Also, what do you mean by fake whiskey? No alcohol? Or drugs to make you pass out faster?

Sorry for so many questions, but you seem like the guy who has the most knowledge to answer my questions.

Thanks so much in advance.

[Bradley1]

Also,

Is anyone interested in going to a room salon? I asked about some Koreans about going by myself, but pretty much everyone in Korea frowned on the idea and shook their heads. However, when you watch Korean movies, it's not uncommon to see just two or three people at a room salon, so that should be acceptable right?

Anyway, here's a quick tabang guide:

1. You call the tabang service. The motel I was at had their number all over the tissue boxes.

2. Tell them what motel, your room number, and what kind of drink you want. Coffee is cheapest (10, 000 won or less).

3. When girl comes, just hang out with her if you want and then ask for 2-cha. I was quoted 150, 000 won each time. Negotiating is not recommended.

4. If you're Korean, and can pass for Korean, BBFS is 99. 9% available. Every girl but one asked me if I used a condom. The one girl who didn't told me that I should always use a condom, and then while doing it asked if I wanted to do it without the condom. Personally, I would use a condom just because more and more Korean men these days are going sex touring in other countries and bringing back STDs.

5. This is just pure speculation, but one girl told me that customers at night are very difficult because they're drunk and can't get off easily. I told her that she should work in the day, and she said that other girls already worked during the day, and like the day better because of more polite customers. This makes me wonder if the girls in the daytime are hotter. Something I will explore further.

Good luck

[Dodgers55]

Thanks to all who have replied to my report. I wanted to provide some basis of what is out there in 2011 since there appeared to be just a real heavy focus on Itaewon lately, and provide an avenue for people with more information to refute and add on to what I have stated.

So I think it is pretty confirmed that Yongsan RLD is pretty much dead. But Cheongnyangni A-Row has the best lookers for those who are korean. And we now know that Miari is still hopping all around and has enough girls that a foreigner can score. There has been some bad articles on the internet that Cheongnyangni is being shut down. But I guess it's exaggerating things a bit over some land in the area that's being taken over for expanding the train station. I don't see the need for anyone to make a trip to Yeongdeungpo as it feels a bit sketchy in the area and the Shinsegae dept store is believed to have declared war on the district.

I hate the fact that these officetels are now where the best looking girls are at now. You put too many of the lookers in one area of the spectrum and then the rest gets thinned. The fact that places like Cool and Belle no longer has the quality that it used to, tells the story. I need to come back again as an english teacher or something and try and crack this officetel nut. I love the idea of spending $300 and being treated like a King with girls who are on the very right end of the bell curve.

Having attended a college with lots of koreans, I always found them to be plain looking and not too attractive. But being in Korea there are so many attractive ones. I guess it has to do with the dense population and some very good plastic surgery and make up work. And I also find Koreans in Korea just much cuter by the way they talk and behave. Even the girls who work at the Burger Kings and McDonalds wear massive amounts of makeup and put a lot of emotion into their jobs. The reddish highlighted hair also seems to help.


I am in Korea with older relatives and didn't want to monger around the RLDs by myself. Although as a gyopo tourist who could speak korean at a fluent elementary level, I could probably have fun. From what I read and heard in Seoul the 588 Cheongnyangni area is still the best. The Yongsan area is winding down as the area is under redevelopment and Miari Texas area is a mixed bag. And Yeongdeungpo is suffering from a brunt of crackdowns. Itaewon's Hooker Hill isn't really a RLD since it's mostly juicy bars and street walkers, locals don't really go there as Koreans are and always will be xenophobes. For Koreans, it appears like they have moved on from RLDs and have Americanized. That means the action has become mostly costly, and operate through escort services and massage parlors and room salons. All of the internet sites that show this information are in Korean and as someone who can't really type or read Korean all that well, I can't work myself searching on Daum and Naver. Mongering will become harder and harder for us English speakers going forward.

So I did what people who don't need FS (out of convenience or fear of STD) went to the Gangnam Bang Bang Junction area. For those looking for a GFE rub with HE, there's plenty to try. If one place doesn't accept foreigners (waygukins) try the next one. With so many choices in one area, you can't miss.

To get there take the #3 line to Yangjae station and exit #3 (look at the map and head towards Bang Bang Junction (Sa-guh-ri). This is a major intersection and you will see the Prudential Building, a Starbucks, a Dell store and a huge clothing store called Bang Bang. You can also take the #2 line to Gangnam station, exit I think #6 and head towards Yangjae Station, look at street signs, can't miss it.

Head in the direction of the clothing store and you will find Cool and Raining Man. You enter through the place that is a car wash and you will see a sign directing you to either place. Go a little further and you will find Angel and in an upper floor you'll see a legitimate looking massage place, that prolly has a shady side. Cross the street you will see Belle and in the building next to Belle you will see another massage place called 1/2 Massage I think. Head in the other direction of the intersection and you'll see a huge massage place that looks like a love motel, called Rain Massage I think?

The HJ joints (which the attendant referred to as "soft-touch") never have barber poles, don't even advertise as massage sometimes but the giveaway is that it's named with exotic words and as shops that normally don't say anything else (Cool, Angel, Belle, Raining Man, Ivy, VIP, Cleopatra). They operate primarily though appointments but go there before 5PM on a weekday or weekend and they should squeeze you in. You know you are at one when you have to buzz to get in or be denied entrance. Cool was 75, 000 won. Which I think is the most expensive because they have the prettiest girls I think.

I think if you act like you've been there and know what you are doing and know some korean, likely you will have success getting in. You take off your shoes, change into slippers, go into a room, change into a robe, take a shower and buzz the attendant. Then you wait a few minutes, then chat with the girl, get a short massage, roam your hands all around, get your happy ending and a vitac500 or juice. Like with everything in life YMMV. Sometimes the girl may stay fully clothed, but usually will at least be topless, some places fully nude with a short BBBJ. If the girl likes you, you should be able to touch everywhere, if not then you may face resistance. These places are tolerated by the authorities because they don't involve G2G contact.

Korean girls who work at these places have doll faces, and even girls with implants are still relatively small but you may find a thicker girl with awesome naturals. Koreans are bony in the rear unlike the ladies of Japan who typically have some back. Don't believe the age they tell you as K-Girls age very slowly and 28 year old girl can very well pass as a 22 year old. If you add 5 to the age that you think they are on first glance, you are probably right.

As for barber shop pole places. They are not the same as An-Mas and shouldn't be referred to as such. Barber poles attached to a Sauna, are likely legit and usually involve hair cutting and massages given in a public bath or jimjilbang. Barber poles pointing to a location in the basement or upstairs is probably the ones you need for the good stuff esp if they are still open past 10pm. Places on the ground floor usually cut hair although may have a secret room attached for additional services if the outside windows are frosted. If you aren't picky I think these are good places to relax for 40, 000 to 80, 000 won. Barber poles that spin around a little slowly and says stuff on it are for sports massage places. They tend to cost more but offer better services. If it spins real slow and has a picture of a woman, they are beauty salons that only cut hair.

Actual An-Ma places (soapy massage joints with FS) are not that easy to find but are around. But be fearful of crackdowns and shelling out over 100, 000 and often 180, 000 won for a girl that may not be all that hot or friendly may not be the best. Locals probably frequent places where they possibly make reservations in advance for girls they know are good.

I haven't been inside a Love Motel, but I guess they operate through street girls around the places and through call girl services. I imagine business cards inside?

Everyone's dream is to be able to go to a high end room salon and take a girl for 2cha afterwards. But who has that kind of dough, unless it's on the company card. Noraebangs and DVD bangs are sometimes a poor man's room salon in disguise, but when getting a helper don't expect a stunner.

Classified ads and business cards I imagine are no different than in the states. Probably an agency and you never get the girl pictured. Becoming a more first world, wealthy nation seems to mean that you become more and more like the USA Things become harder, more costly and less and less accessible to those are not in the know. There is always Thailand and the Phillipines which should be good for a few decades.

[Enchoo]

Dodgers: I don't know if you ever tried Cheonho which is line 5/8 (?) behind Emart and next to 2000 outlet. I think the quality is roughly equal to Miari with usually BBFS available. Also you don't usually have to deal with an ajumma.

Question for Bradley: are the dabang coffee shop girls in Gwangju reallly hot and worth 150K? Can you describe what Kpop stars they look like or how young? Are they picky or stuck up in any way?

I have always wondered if I SHOULD take the plunge in Dabangs because I only tried the RLD glass shops before.

[Bradley1]

Dodgers: I don't know if you ever tried Cheonho which is line 5/8 (?) behind Emart and next to 2000 outlet. I think the quality is roughly equal to Miari with usually BBFS available. Also you don't usually have to deal with an ajumma.

Question for Bradley: are the dabang coffee shop girls in Gwangju reallly hot and worth 150K? Can you describe what Kpop stars they look like or how young? Are they picky or stuck up in any way?

I have always wondered if I SHOULD take the plunge in Dabangs because I only tried the RLD glass shops before.The only basis I have for comparison is my mongering in the USA. In USA, outcall from a Korean girl is hard to find, and when you do find it, it's going to be at least $400 on average.

So is it worth $150? With BBBJ included and the privacy of your room, yes, and for BBFS-lovers, I'm sure it's worth it.

Are they really hot? Let me preface that I have high standards on looks, and to give you an example, I went to a Korean-only anma that was ridiculously posh and the girls I saw there, while fashionable, were in my opinion OK in terms of looks even with their youth and plastic surgery and nice face. Reason is, I want a tight body with nice tits (big or small, doesn't matter, just has to have that nice shape).

In America, there are plenty of Korean working girls with ridiculously nice toned bodies with huge tits. The only problem may be age and / or face, but it's not all that difficult to find girls who have the total package thanks to boards like this and other review web-sites. Sometimes these girls will also be in their mid to late 20's and are former room salon girls from Korea.

So when I went to Korea, I guess what I had in mind was banging girls that looked like actresses or racing girls. Unfortunately, I have yet to find them, but I admit I have not been to the RLD's, so maybe the A-row girls there are that stunning. Or are they only in room salons? What do you think?

Dabang. No, not hot. Pretty? Yes. Look like actresses? No. They look like normal Korean girls, the kind you see just walking around outside.

Again, I have pretty high standards. I'm one of those guys who laughs when I see a post in the American boards where they talk about how hot a girl is and how young she is, when I personally consider her face OK and know she's really in her mid 30's at the minimum.

I will definitely have to check out the RLD's to see what I'm missing in terms of looks.

[Bradley1]

Dabang age: Average late 20's, early 30's. At least the ones I seen (at night). I will have to see if hotter girls work during the daytime.

The thing that really throws me off is, I've befriended and even dated some Korean working girls in the US.

One girl and her friends worked in room salons in Korea, and then worked at a room salon in the US before becoming escorts. They were all hot and in their mid to late 20's. They also regularly worked as escorts in Hong Kong and Japan. This is why I have the theory that hot girls won't actually work as straight-up prostitutes in Korea.

Another girl that I thought was hot told me she worked at Miari originally. But at the same time, when I first met her, she had black hair and fair skin and I didn't think she was hot. She then got a tan and blond hair like the rest of the girls in New York, and that's when she actually got hot. And she was 33. So who knows.

Yet a couple girls in the US who were hot and 30 years old. But I suspect they had a lot of plastic surgery done, and I guess they didn't actually get hot until recently.

Maybe age is more important to Korean guys than actual hotness. Not really sure.

On my to do list:

1. Room salon.

2. Full salon.

3. RLD.

4. Daytime tabang

[Bradley1]

Also Enchoo, do you know where exactly the RLD is in Jeonju?

[Kimchi Warrior]

http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0.29307, 2072487_2276371, 00. Html? Xid=fbshare.

If the girls in Miari got themselves up like this for work, I might be tempted to go over there (it's not very far from where I live) despite the fact that it's now an empty shell of its former self.

[Rick Rock]

Link doesn't work bro

[Kimchi Warrior]

Ah, here's a better link:

http://search.time.com/results.html?N=0&Nty=1&Ntt=South+Korean+Prostitutes+Protest+Closing+of+Brothels&x=12&y=18&p=0&cmd=tags&srchCat=Full+Archive

Go to the url and click on the first linked photo essay.

I guess TIME doesn't like hot-linking.

[Msukc]

I am traveling to Seoul and Daegu next week. I will be very busy with work during my stay. I have traveled to China many times and it seems most the hotel massage services offer extras.

I assume this is true in Korea. Am I correct?

I have rtff and I haven't seen much discussion on hotel massage services. The reason I ask is because I am not sure I will be able to slip away to the RLDs, unfortunately.

I am not too concerned because I plan on just using the massage services and see where it takes me. Worst case, I will get a nice massage.

I will report my findings in a couple of weeks after my return.

[Kimchi Warrior]

The saunas at the Koreana and the New Seoul across the street provide happy endings.


I am traveling to Seoul and Daegu next week. I will be very busy with work during my stay. I have traveled to China many times and it seems most the hotel massage services offer extras.

I assume this is true in Korea. Am I correct?

I have rtff and I haven't seen much discussion on hotel massage services. The reason I ask is because I am not sure I will be able to slip away to the RLDs, unfortunately.

I am not too concerned because I plan on just using the massage services and see where it takes me. Worst case, I will get a nice massage.

I will report my findings in a couple of weeks after my return.

[Dodgers55]

KimchiWarrior. So this is after a normal 60 minute massage at the Koreana or New Seoul in their spa (whatever floor it is in?). Any idea about the cost and what kind of ladies that work there? After getting nothing more than a simple backrub at Cool and Belle. Would love a real massage followed by the juicing.

Bradley. Agree that K-Girls are often fake with lots of plastic surgery, a little bony and lack of TNA but they make up for it with cuteness, in my opinion. I think all the best do work at officetels and high end room salons, which is why stunners are lacking. In USA the Korean girls have more to offer in body but only because of the eating and lack of exercise (due to driving rather than walking). And plastic surgery on the face just isn't all that common for young people, so seeing them in the light of day, they just don't look good.

HE massages in the US are too much of a hit or miss. Even the shadiest looking AMP often you leave with a massage and nothing more, and could get kicked out for groping. Picking a girl at random from backpage. Com or some escort service is often a big miss with a big hole burning in your pocket. Hate the fact that FS can often cost $500 or more. That's 1/4 of the average man's take home pay. Even with what's often lacking here in Korea. Everything is a steal compared to the US. What you get for $150 or $180 at an anma (provided you get lucky with a hot girl who gives GFE) is just plain unbeatable.

[Jack Rabbit]

Crazy night. Went on date with Ubeckistan girl (3rd date-2 months work) Wouldn't come up to motel. Didn't want to waste my cash spent so called outservice SP I know. While waiting this drunk local 25 year old korean girl, came up and starting talking to me in Korean. I scooped her back to the motel ditching my SP. Within 5 minutes BBBJ and and FS. Had to blow in her mouth because to be honest she was fat. Got dressed gave her my number (thinking why didn't her a fake one) , left and jumped on subway. 1 HR ride home realized I left my $2000 Armani suit jacket in motel! Jumped back on train heading back and she actually called more drunk than before. Got my buddy to call (my Korean not that good) and went to Kangnam to meet her to get my jacket. She told me she was at NB, but I asked some Korean teenager walking by to help me find it. However she was actually in a male host bar next door! You shoulda seen the faces of the pretty boy guys when they saw me rushing in and grabbing my jacket. Whata night! Not go mention to hot RS girls walking around after.

[Enchoo]

There are some good lookers in the past in Jeonju but lately they have been foreigner (even gyopo) unfriendly. My ex-ATF who used to work in Jeonju no longer returns my text msgs so I have not dropped by and just journey all the way to Busan or Seoul (what a waste of gas)

Has anyone tried Paju Yongjugol Dragon lately? To get there, take the train from Shinchon to Paju then take a local bus to Paju Eup heading west. This was "the bomb RLD!" 5 years ago but last year I saw the place in a state of disrepair. I was wondering if you guys wanted to rent a car to check out all corners of the RLD world in the Seoul area? I think I have time next week if my planned trip with huge discount to Thailand / Phillipines falls through. I found a fare from Daegu for 340, 000 won R / T for 3Nights / 5Days to BKK and another from ICN to Manila for roughly the same price without night / day restrictions.


Also Enchoo, do you know where exactly the RLD is in Jeonju?

[PolarisRay]

The saunas at the Koreana and the New Seoul across the street provide happy endings.If you expect the same sort of service from spas / health center / massage parlors located within 5-star hotels as in PRC, just forget. The most health clubs / spas are opened to memberships and do not provide any special services.

Depend on where you stay, but there are a plenty of massage parlors located around hotels in seoul. They are called in korean "an ma si sul so." these MPs have full spa facilties: steam room, hot and cold tubs, showers, lounge etc. If you are first timer, you pay up front at cashier and will be given a locker. Keep your stuff in the locker, take a shower (most provide disposal toothbrush / paste, shaving kit) , kick back in the lounge for a while until they call you. Then you go up to a room, where you will be given a massage by blind massaeur. After that, a girl will come into the room. Some places will skip the massage part. Anyway, if you have never been there, then it is an eye-opening experience. It used to cost around krw 120, 000. Not sure how much they charege now. Again, it all depend on location and level of service.

[Bradley1]

Enzoo, I spoke with a friend of mine.

Don't bother with dabangs. While the quality at a RLD may vary, you get a choice, and it is half the price of a dabang. He told me that by missing out on RLD, I pretty much got shafted.

So from my educated opinion. RLD is the best bet based on price, choice, and quality. Unless you want an ass licking, then go to an anma. If you want BBFS, according to my friend, ask before you pay them.

Okay, with that out of the way, can someone explain the exact etiquette for a room salon? I plan on at least going once, and it looks like it's going to be by myself.

1. Please tell me paying etiquette. Who are you supposed to tip and how much? Band / waiter / girl / manager?

2. From searching, approximate cost for everythign including 2-cha ranges from $600-$800. Still accurate?

3. RLD A-Girl vs Room Salon Girls (jum O and lower). Who's hotter?

Thanks so much.

[Esq69]

Enzoo, I spoke with a friend of mine.

Don't bother with dabangs. While the quality at a RLD may vary, you get a choice, and it is half the price of a dabang. He told me that by missing out on RLD, I pretty much got shafted.

So from my educated opinion. RLD is the best bet based on price, choice, and quality. Unless you want an ass licking, then go to an anma. If you want BBFS, according to my friend, ask before you pay them.

Okay, with that out of the way, can someone explain the exact etiquette for a room salon? I plan on at least going once, and it looks like it's going to be by myself.

1. Please tell me paying etiquette. Who are you supposed to tip and how much? Band / waiter / girl / manager?

2. From searching, approximate cost for everythign including 2-cha ranges from $600-$800. Still accurate?

3. RLD A-Girl vs Room Salon Girls (jum O and lower). Who's hotter?

Thanks so much.It all depends on the quality of the RS, but true RS prices range as follows:

1. Never tip manager. Band will up the cost about 100 per hour, waiter gets tipped 20-50, girl will cost about 100-200. No need to tip more for anyone.

2. Generally, the fruit and scotch setup will be in the 400-800 range with additional bottles running you another 200-400 each for the cheap stuff. If you add a band and girl to the low range, I suppose you're in the 600-800 range you were talking about.

3. As always, it depends on where you go and even what time you go. Jum-O and up will mean that your girls are rotating so you have the option of paying 4-8 times (meaning 400-800) to lock her in or you're not going to see her for long stretches of time. Madam (or their assistants) might stick around to entertain you, but going alone is going to be a waste for that reason alone. You have the option of getting two girls too for double, but you really need to know where you're going beforehand. All in all, the hottest girls at RS are hotter than A-row RLD and you have a better chance of seeing them in the lineup if you go early, know someone and make it clear you will spend some money.

If you don't like what you see, just leave. (but make sure they don't open the seal on the liquor or your going to pay and stay).

These are current prices for true Jum-O or RS (not the cheaper versions. Dalan-ju-jum or bukchangdong).

[Kimchi Warrior]

If you expect the same sort of service from spas / health center / massage parlors located within 5-star hotels as in PRC, just forget. The most health clubs / spas are opened to memberships and do not provide any special services.


Right, which is why I just specified HE and named a couple of known venues. A guest can use all the facilities of a 5, but few if any of those have extras.


Depend on where you stay, but there are a plenty of massage parlors located around hotels in seoul. They are called in korean "an ma si sul so."

This is misleading, though, because extremely few of these places will accept non-Koreans, esp non-Asians.

[Kimchi Warrior]

KimchiWarrior. So this is after a normal 60 minute massage at the Koreana or New Seoul in their spa (whatever floor it is in?). Any idea about the cost and what kind of ladies that work there?Yes, full massage, then release. 90K KRW; generally the girls are a little older, looks vary all over the lot, very hit or miss.

[Dodgers55]

I've been to Cool and Belle and now want to finish off my trip at an anma (leaving Friday) , with some assurance I'd get decent service and a pretty girl for shelling out the 180, 000 won. Still in the American state of mind, I won't expect too much for what amounts to $170. In the dry country all you can get is a 6 minute CBJ or cfs at a strip joint or possibly a incall massage with HE for that kind of money. I've considered a full legit massage with HE, and RLD. But a soapy sounds the best.

I know Seolleung Station is the place to go for anmas and I've gathered some trip reports from last year from and have a couple places in mind to go. But I would greatly appreciate it if anyone can share experiences from a recent visit and rather quickly too.

Let me share my experiences about Cool and Belle in a bit of detail now. Previously only vaguely described it.

Cool. Walked into a carwash entrance by the sign, turned left went downstairs, got buzzed in. This is where foreigners could get turned down if you don't look asian. Paid 75, 000 won to a young korean guy. Got lead to a room, put on a gown, took a shower came back and got buzzed in. The girl was pretty, not much of a body, she clearly lied tho when she was 22. Based on her behavior and looks I figure 26 or 27. She really acted interested when I talked coming from USA. She commutes from a long way to work at Cool, said she's been there a couple of months. After chatting, got a ass massage (no back rub) , she lied next to me and went to work with the gelled HJ. Rushed a bit and wasn't too thrilled when I finished without warning. Haha. Hands are free to roam but I didn't try under panties. Took another shower chatted a bit more got some juice and was on my way. Not much of a GFE, just eh. Worth the money? Yeah I'd say so.

Belle. Walked down a twisty set of stairs, didn't have to buzz they already saw me and let me in. Was greeted by a hot chick, who collected 70, 000 won and sent me to the shower. Same drill. The girl who came in wasn't the same as the greeter, wasn't that hot but really cute. Looked like she could be like 18 or 19, but said 22. 22 must be the default answer when asked about age by these girls. Got a backrub this time, chatted about places to visit around Seoul. She said her home was in gangnam and lived there her whole life. She started looking prettier as time went by. Then flipped by a very light BBBJ. And rubbing. I asked her to go a bit slow as sometimes I go fast she obliged. A bit of lfk and then I finished. Very sensual experience with some roaming, she had baby soft skin. Took a shower, got my vita 500 and was on my way. I tipped her 10, 000 won because she was so sweet.

Both places I went around 3pm, no wait and place was pretty empty. I don't know how things go late at night, prolly long waits and even some refusals. There's no guarantee the girls are hotter at nights too.

People are expecting way too much when criticizing Cool and Belle. You are not going to find KPop looking girls and I don't even think college girls work here. The girls here do it as a profession. The college girls looking for extra income are at the kiss bangs and room salons near the campus (Hongdae, SNU, Yonsei, Ewha, etc).

[Bradley1]

It all depends on the quality of the RS, but true RS prices range as follows:

1. Never tip manager. Band will up the cost about 100 per hour, waiter gets tipped 20-50, girl will cost about 100-200. No need to tip more for anyone.

2. Generally, the fruit and scotch setup will be in the 400-800 range with additional bottles running you another 200-400 each for the cheap stuff. If you add a band and girl to the low range, I suppose you're in the 600-800 range you were talking about.

3. As always, it depends on where you go and even what time you go. Jum-O and up will mean that your girls are rotating so you have the option of paying 4-8 times (meaning 400-800) to lock her in or you're not going to see her for long stretches of time. Madam (or their assistants) might stick around to entertain you, but going alone is going to be a waste for that reason alone. You have the option of getting two girls too for double, but you really need to know where you're going beforehand. All in all, the hottest girls at RS are hotter than A-row RLD and you have a better chance of seeing them in the lineup if you go early, know someone and make it clear you will spend some money.

If you don't like what you see, just leave. (but make sure they don't open the seal on the liquor or your going to pay and stay).

These are current prices for true Jum-O or RS (not the cheaper versions. Dalan-ju-jum or bukchangdong).Thanks Esq, very very informative post.

Relaying a report for my friend who went to a full salon:

Full salon with tips included will set you back 400 per head. He said his girl told him that 10, 000 tip is standard for waiter / manager / motel. So basically just add on 30, 000 won for tip.

He said that it is worth it compared to RLD due to the fact the girl will stick with you for a couple hours and pretend to be your girlfriend, feeding you, hugging you, and seducing you.

He said girls vary, but he said in the lineup, he saw at least a few girls that he considered pretty hot.

Now considering that a full salon is supposed to be "less" quality than a room salon, this really piques my curiousity on what a room salon is like.

Anyway, good luck.

[Yarichin]

Anywhere I can find what these acronyms mean? Been searching to no avail.

Most I can guess. Bu RLD?

[Ezinho]

Anywhere I can find what these acronyms mean? Been searching to no avail.

Most I can guess. Bu RLD? Click on the "Abbreviations" link above, it has most of the acronyms mentioned on this thread. RLD is red light district.

Still in the American state of mind, I won't expect too much for what amounts to $170In the dry country all you can get is a 6 minute CBJ or cfs at a strip joint or possibly a incall massage with HE for that kind of money.
I'm not sure where you're from in the States, but I was in California earlier this year and the Korean talent that was available off the internet (SF redbook) was better than anything I've seen/banged here in Korea. And the price was similar to what you pay here as well ($160hh/$200hr). Honestly, for that price I banged three different Korean chicks all working out of one apartment building and they gave service us foreigners can only dream about here in-country; BBBJ, AR, DFK, etc. Again, check out the redbook website, there are tons of Korean girls working in the San Francisco/South Bay area.

This may be the only country in the world where it's hookers are better once they leave the country; for most other nationalities, it's the other way around!

[Zarcady]

Click on the "Abbreviations" link above, it has most of the acronyms mentioned on this thread. RLD is red light district.

I'm not sure where you're from in the States, but I was in California earlier this year and the Korean talent that was available off the internet (SF redbook) was better than anything I've seen / banged here in Korea. And the price was similar to what you pay here as well ($160hh/$200hr). Honestly, for that price I banged three different Korean chicks all working out of one apartment building and they gave service us foreigners can only dream about here in-country; BBBJ, AR, DFK, etc. Again, check out the redbook website, there are tons of Korean girls working in the San Francisco / South Bay area.

This may be the only country in the world where it's hookers are better once they leave the country; for most other nationalities, it's the other way around! Hi Ezinho.

I mean no offense and I know you are a veteran monger in the forum but I'm really interested to know which class of establishments you have tried in Korea to make such a statement. Again, I'm not trying to argue but I definitely think the korean SPs in foreign countries don't hold a candle to the providers in Korea. Personally I haven't tried to providers in America, but I have been to korean only brothels in Australia and I can kind of get a geist of what you are saying; there are some very good looking girls here and I would rate them as the A row girls at 588 but that's that. While at the brothel that I frequent in Australia have consistently beautiful korean girls (so I can get a geist of what you are trying to say) but the talent in Korea has so much more to offer. A girls at 588 are just that. An ace at a RLD, low class establishment, good looking but not fantastic. Which has led to another interesting point. BBBJ, BBFS is available at most places and AR is a normal routine at an Anma. DFK is somewhat dependant on girls but I don't consider any of those an impossibility in Korea.

Which has lead to another question, have you tried the talent that can be had at an officetel? While the talents can vary somewhat but you cannot go wrong in officetels that are situated in Gangnam. 130k for an hour or 150k (plus added mandatory fee for an ace) for an hour with 2 pops with talents that are frankly not found in any RLDs that I've been to is quite a bargain. Of course, you can choose the girl from their website before you make the booking so you know what you are getting (body wise LOL. Face blurred but it never disappoints). Kind of strict and no nonsense place in my opinion but well worth the price to bang girls that are not 10% material but getting there (who has the cash to play around in 10%s anyway.).

Or with fun places, have you tried what the koreans call a gunma? There are the hardcore public room salons too which are worth a visit.

I'm still curious as to how beautiful these korean girls in America that you speak of but I'll post up a picture with an advertisement of some officetel girls and you can tell me if you can definitely find better.

Regards Zarcady

[Zarcady]

Sample of Officetel girls. Sorry the quality of these girls aren't that good. I might post up a better advertisement when I get some time but here's a sample anyway.

Hmm. A 2mb file is shortened to12kb. Anyone know how to post a bigger picture?

[Zarcady]

So I realised I can't post big ass pictures so I cropped individual pictures. Took bloody long but hopefully they can be seen better now. Note I haven't tried this officetel but these advertisements are 100% real girls and not some fake random pictures, that I can guarentee.

[Bradley1]

Hi Ezinho.

I mean no offense and I know you are a veteran monger in the forum but I'm really interested to know which class of establishments you have tried in Korea to make such a statement. Again, I'm not trying to argue but I definitely think the korean SPs in foreign countries don't hold a candle to the providers in Korea. Personally I haven't tried to providers in America, I can get into every Korean establishment in Korea, but I have to agree with Ezinho.

And he's talking about San Francisco. In LA, the quality is even better and it's not hard to find due to the immense popularity of review sites.

Here's what it comes down to for a Korean, and if I can list it as this, I can see how it is clearly better for a FOREIGNER:

Advantages to Korea RLD.

1. Younger on average.

2. You know what you're going to get due to window shopping.

3. BBFS more available (if you're Korean).

4. RLDs are cheaper.

Advantages to Korea Anma.

1. Anal rimming.

2. Can be cheaper if you take a deal like two girls for 250, 000 won.

3. The soapland experience. In America only the table shower part is common.

Advantages to USA Incall (LA and Redbook in particular)

1. Easier to find reviews and know what you're getting.

2. Due to importance of reviews, the smarter girls will act like your girlfriend (a la room salon).

3. Girls have better bodies on average. Pictures tend to be photoshopped, so sometimes you'll get fooled.

Ezinho, I'd love to hear your opinion on this matter too as your sentiment seems to match what I felt when I came here. I had a couple theories earlier.

1. Room salon girls are wiilling to do "full-time" sex work in another country instead of having to deal with the embarassment of doing it in Korea. For some reason, room salon girls who go 2cha consider the RLD girls "dirty".

2. By the time they hit late 20's and come to America, the RLD girls (or whoever) have made enough money to get boob implants and fix their face.

[Zarcady]

So I realised I can't post big ass pictures so I cropped individual pictures. Took bloody long but hopefully they can be seen better now. Note I haven't tried this officetel but these advertisements are 100% real girls and not some fake random pictures, that I can guarentee.LOL Sorry, I did try that one but the girl was at the bottom of the advertisement, damn ads look all the same. This particular one was 5 minutes walk from Gangnam subway station, make reservation and they will come pick you up from gangnam station; I took the one in the green tank top in the attached picture, says 24 in the picture but think abit older. Definitely a gorgeous girl but admits to having her eyes and her chin done, think fake tits as well. Not a bad service, soaped me down pretty well in the shower followed by BBBJ but no BBFS (first time at the officetel, they have more restrictions or rules, than other places) , didn't take too long to come (amazing fucking body) but since I only paid for 1 pop, spent the last 20 minutes or so just talking and cuddling before session ended. Have attached more photos from different ads, these are the ones that I've tried already and they are pretty good. Definitely not as enjoyable as full salons and hardcore club room salons but quality of girls are generally better.

[Bradley1]

Are the pictures from a web-site somewhere?

If you are Korean or a Korean friend, you can check out www.nagayo.com Where they have ads from room salons and full salons alike. If you follow the links to the full salon web-sites some have pics of the girls and rooms (no face). Of course you need to be Korean or have a Korean friend.

[Bradley1]

LOL Sorry, I did try that one but the girl was at the bottom of the advertisement, damn ads look all the same. This particular one was 5 minutes walk from Gangnam subway station, make reservation and they will come pick you up from gangnam station; I took the one in the green tank top in the attached picture, says 24 in the picture but think abit older. Definitely a gorgeous girl but admits to having her eyes and her chin done, think fake tits as well. Not a bad service, soaped me down pretty well in the shower followed by BBBJ but no BBFS (first time at the officetel, they have more restrictions or rules, than other places) , didn't take too long to come (amazing fucking body) but since I only paid for 1 pop, spent the last 20 minutes or so just talking and cuddling before session ended. Have attached more photos from different ads, these are the ones that I've tried already and they are pretty good. Definitely not as enjoyable as full salons and hardcore club room salons but quality of girls are generally better.Based on your description, it certainly seems very similar to the Korean incalls in America. Will have to report on this since you say that the girls are hotter than the full salon girls.

Checklist.

Coffee girls. Check.

RLD. Check.

Anma. Check.

Full Salon. Check.

To Do.

Room salon.

Officetel

[TieflingRogue]

I'm in the SF Bay Area and have done incalls with many Koreans. You can definitely find high quality here; just last week I banged a hot 23 year old Korean who provided 2 pops, BBBJ, rimming, etc for $200.

But the whole experience is different; only in Korea can you walk into a coffee shop and get blown or better in the booth.


I can get into every Korean establishment in Korea, but I have to agree with Ezinho.

And he's talking about San Francisco. In LA, the quality is even better and it's not hard to find due to the immense popularity of review sites.

Here's what it comes down to for a Korean, and if I can list it as this, I can see how it is clearly better for a FOREIGNER:

Advantages to Korea RLD.

1. Younger on average.

2. You know what you're going to get due to window shopping.

3. BBFS more available (if you're Korean).

4. RLDs are cheaper.

Advantages to Korea Anma.

1. Anal rimming.

2. Can be cheaper if you take a deal like two girls for 250, 000 won.

3. The soapland experience. In America only the table shower part is common.

Advantages to USA Incall (LA and Redbook in particular)

1. Easier to find reviews and know what you're getting.

2. Due to importance of reviews, the smarter girls will act like your girlfriend (a la room salon).

3. Girls have better bodies on average. Pictures tend to be photoshopped, so sometimes you'll get fooled.

Ezinho, I'd love to hear your opinion on this matter too as your sentiment seems to match what I felt when I came here. I had a couple theories earlier.

1. Room salon girls are wiilling to do "full-time" sex work in another country instead of having to deal with the embarassment of doing it in Korea. For some reason, room salon girls who go 2cha consider the RLD girls "dirty".

2. By the time they hit late 20's and come to America, the RLD girls (or whoever) have made enough money to get boob implants and fix their face.

[Zarcady]

I can get into every Korean establishment in Korea, but I have to agree with Ezinho.

And he's talking about San Francisco. In LA, the quality is even better and it's not hard to find due to the immense popularity of review sites.

Here's what it comes down to for a Korean, and if I can list it as this, I can see how it is clearly better for a FOREIGNER:

Advantages to Korea RLD.

1. Younger on average.

2. You know what you're going to get due to window shopping.

3. BBFS more available (if you're Korean).

4. RLDs are cheaper.

Advantages to Korea Anma.

1. Anal rimming.

2. Can be cheaper if you take a deal like two girls for 250, 000 won.

3. The soapland experience. In America only the table shower part is common.

Advantages to USA Incall (LA and Redbook in particular)

1. Easier to find reviews and know what you're getting.

2. Due to importance of reviews, the smarter girls will act like your girlfriend (a la room salon).

3. Girls have better bodies on average. Pictures tend to be photoshopped, so sometimes you'll get fooled.

Ezinho, I'd love to hear your opinion on this matter too as your sentiment seems to match what I felt when I came here. I had a couple theories earlier.

1. Room salon girls are wiilling to do "full-time" sex work in another country instead of having to deal with the embarassment of doing it in Korea. For some reason, room salon girls who go 2cha consider the RLD girls "dirty".

2. By the time they hit late 20's and come to America, the RLD girls (or whoever) have made enough money to get boob implants and fix their face. Hey.

How old would you say is roughly the age of these SPs in America? You say that girls at RLDs are generally younger but I say they are generally high 20s to early 30s which is not young at all!

By going with what alot of people are saying on the forum, I guess the quality must be pretty good in America but I'm not too sure how. I mean, officetel girls are pretty damn hot and I just can't see many girls being of higher quality than them besides ten-pros and jum-os. And an ace at one particular officetel told me she migrated from a jum-o so the SPs in America must be ten-pro standard? Kind of hard to believe there are better quality of SPs in America as to Korea, its driving my curiousity up the wall haha. Maybe you can pm me a link of this review site and I can finally open my eyes LOL.

BTW Full salon girls don't hold a candle to officetel girls (the good ones). Full Salon is in my opinion the place to go to get drained and have crazy fun (and indeed its fun haha as you would have experienced) but besides the HUGE range of girls that some of these establishments hold by themselves, quality seems to be subpar compared to an officetel. They are still better good but just not as good.

Plus I never heard of threesome in an anma. I've experienced event girls where they come in with a mask and give you a sorta temporary threesome (not even really a threesome tbh) for a couple of minutes but besides that. Maybe I just needed to ask?

I recommend you to try other styles that Korea has to offer. There are so many variety of services each with their own pros and cons and the trendy ones seem to pop up all the time. Like the officetels and full salons are the popular ones these days.

It would be good if you can link me some of these ads for the establishments in America. I want to see for myself! Hahaha

[AmericanThief]

damn ads look all the same.The photos are fake. You can't see their faces. They're selling the bodies, but as you know the girl is always older than advertised because its not her in the photos.

[Bradley1]

Hey.

How old would you say is roughly the age of these SPs in America? You say that girls at RLDs are generally younger but I say they are generally high 20s to early 30s which is not young at all!

By going with what alot of people are saying on the forum, I guess the quality must be pretty good in America but I'm not too sure how. I mean, officetel girls are pretty damn hot and I just can't see many girls being of higher quality than them besides ten-pros and jum-os. And an ace at one particular officetel told me she migrated from a jum-o so the SPs in America must be ten-pro standard? Kind of hard to believe there are better quality of SPs in America as to Korea, its driving my curiousity up the wall haha. Maybe you can pm me a link of this review site and I can finally open my eyes LOL.

BTW Full salon girls don't hold a candle to officetel girls (the good ones). Full Salon is in my opinion the place to go to get drained and have crazy fun (and indeed its fun haha as you would have experienced) but besides the HUGE range of girls that some of these establishments hold by themselves, quality seems to be subpar compared to an officetel. They are still better good but just not as good.

Plus I never heard of threesome in an anma. I've experienced event girls where they come in with a mask and give you a sorta temporary threesome (not even really a threesome tbh) for a couple of minutes but besides that. Maybe I just needed to ask?

I recommend you to try other styles that Korea has to offer. There are so many variety of services each with their own pros and cons and the trendy ones seem to pop up all the time. Like the officetels and full salons are the popular ones these days.

It would be good if you can link me some of these ads for the establishments in America. I want to see for myself! HahahaZacardy, can you give more intel on how to get to an officetel girl? Do they have a web-site like so many full salon managers do?

As for Korean girls in America, keep in mind that I'm talking about the ones in California. The ones in New York will range from 30's to 40's but will usually have killer tan bodies with huge boobs and blonde hair, and face can range from anything. But for most Americans, this is the style they like.

In California, age ranges from 20's to 30's on average. Go to ********. Com and look under Asians in Los Angeles to see pictures. Keep in mind majority are photoshopped. However, there are review sites that will review these girls so you know what you are getting, and the hot ones are hot. And the service-oriented ones are very service-oriented.

From my experience, many of the girls working in California have told me that they normally worked in room salons in Korea or worked as escorts in Japan and Hong Kong. Which is why it gave me my theory that they did not do this kind of work in their home country.

Keep in mind, I have never been to a room salon period and never been to an officetel period, so I cannot tell you how they compare.

But compared to the girls I've seen in RLD, anma, and full salon. The girls in California, the well-reviewed ones at least, do have a slight edge due to better service (minus BBFS plus CIM) and better bodies. Face is a roll of the dice.

As for full salon. When I got to choose out of 10 girls, I thought 2 were clear 9's. 2 were clear 8's, and the rest wer e7's or below.

As for anma threesome. I meant you get one girl each for 30 minutes for 250, 000 won which isn't something you're ever going to get in America. But then again, you're never going to get a Korean girl for 70, 000 won either in America.

[Zarcady]

The photos are fake. You can't see their faces. They're selling the bodies, but as you know the girl is always older than advertised because its not her in the photos.Mate no offense but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The reason why its blurred is because they need to keep their identity hidden. If it was fake they would only take a picture of a body with no head visible. I can personally attest to the above ad. You can try yourself and post your review. You have never been to an officetel so don't post up your hypothesis on what you haven't experienced.

Regards

[Rick Rock]

It would be good if you can link me some of these ads for the establishments in America. I want to see for myself! HahahaThis is pretty typical fare for a FS Korean place in the US: http://luxyasiangirls.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=girls

It tends to be a little lower outside of major Korean areas like NYC and LA, but there is the occasional gem. That said, I don't think Korean providers in the USA in general are better or even equal to those in Korea. Though I can see how some might think so if going by mainstream American / porn standards (lots of fake tits, etc). In Korea, they tend to be younger, prettier, better skin, less mileage, etc. And usually cheaper (Table shower. 5 minute bullshit massage, and FS in the Korean joints in the USA ranges from 160 in smaller cities to 200 in major ones).

[Zarcady]

This is pretty typical fare for a FS Korean place in the US:

http://luxyasiangirls.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=girls

It tends to be a little lower outside of major Korean areas like NYC and LA, but there is the occasional gem. That said, I don't think Korean providers in the USA in general are better or even equal to those in Korea. Though I can see how some might think so if going by mainstream American / porn standards (lots of fake tits, etc). In Korea, they tend to be younger, prettier, better skin, less mileage, etc. And usually cheaper (Table shower. 5 minute bullshit massage, and FS in the Korean joints in the USA ranges from 160 in smaller cities to 200 in major ones). Cheers for the link mate. Wow those are really artistic shots LOL, and it accentuates what you said above about the mainstream american standards; big tits, full figured bodies. I'm however not convinced that these girls are of better quality than what you can find in Korea. I would say they don't even come close. Maybe it's my taste in women and I understand that everyone's tastes are different but I was expecting some knockouts (as much of a knockout as can be from a body shot and blurred faces I guess) but yeh. Cheers for the link anyway buddy

[Member #4601]

Back in Seoul for most of the summer. Last time I was in Seoul was two years ago. I went to the RLD in Cheonho a number of times back then, I intend to go back this summer. (I'm a gyopo, and I speak a little Korean.) But I also want to try the other RLD's (Cheonho is a little far for me). Anyone visited Miari or Cheongnyangni RECENTLY (with in the last month)? How are they nowadays?

I know there are other options (I've also visited two anmas two years ago) , but for FS, the price at a RLD can't be beat.

[Bradley1]

Okay, I tried a couple of B-row girls at the RLD and. Ugh, I can see the foreigners have it bad. If they made up for their lack of looks in service, I could understand but. One girl was litterly having seizures while blowing me and having sex, I think she thought it was sexy or something. I didn't even manage to pop, but she insisted I keep trying and she kept jerking me and making grunting noises. I seriously think she thought she was being sexy. One girl just stopped when I went limp, thinking I came. Which I didn't.

Well, here are my current thoughts now.

Where to go for Looks

1. Full Salon. Girls will range, but I personally thought 2 girls in my lineup were stunning. Lineup is crucial.

2. RLD. A-Row only. I saw a couple girls that were stunning. B-Row is. Horrible. I honestly wonder how they make money.

3. Anma. Girls are not bad, but the problem is lack of lineup. So if you're looking for looks, this place is not guaranteed.

4. Dabang. Girls are not ugly, and certainly much better than the RLD B-Row girls. But again, no choice.

Where to go for Attitude

1. Full Salon. These girls will act like your girlfriend like a room salon. And of course, alcohol helps.

2. Dabang. These girls have pretty good attitudes.

3. Anma. All business, but they make sure you get your time's worth.

4. RLD. They'll act all interested, but once you're inside it's wham-bam.

Where to go for Cost

1. RLD. 70, 000 won for 15 minutes. Cheapest.

2. Dabang. 160, 000 won with no set time, but they'll leave once you're done.

3. Anma. 180, 000 to 200, 000 won for 60 minutes. 220, 000 won for multiple pops. 250, 000 won for two girls at 30 minutes each.

4. Full Salon. 300, 000 won to 400, 000 won including tip (20, 000 won on average). The cheap deals are hard to find but exist.

Where to go for Service

1. Dabang. BBFS available and gets the edge over RLD due to better attitude (in my opinion).

2. RLD. Due to BBFS being available.

3. Anma. CFS but a lot of anal rimming.

4. Full Salon. Just standard stuff.

Feel free to agree or disagree. I really hope to try room salon and officetel girls. Zacardy, if you have information on how to find officetel girls, that'd be great.

[Member #4601]

Back in Seoul for most of the summer. Last time I was in Seoul was two years ago. I went to the RLD in Cheonho a number of times back then, I intend to go back this summer. (I'm a gyopo, and I speak a little Korean.) But I also want to try the other RLD's (Cheonho is a little far for me). Anyone visited Miari or Cheongnyangni RECENTLY (with in the last month)? How are they nowadays?

I know there are other options (I've also visited two anmas two years ago) , but for FS, the price at a RLD can't be beat. Couldn't wait, so I went to Cheonho last night. It's pretty much the same as it was two years ago. Went to the same "house" as two years ago. The girl I saw (forgot the name) had a pretty face, but the body was thin. She was, however, very tight, so much that, and I'm ashamed to admit, I couldn't last long. She also kissed me, which never happened with the other girls I saw previously (and when I tried to kiss any of the previous girls, either she turned her head away or she allowed only a peck).

I'll go back to Cheonho at some point, even though the girl wouldn't have been my first choice. In the meantime, I hope to try Miari and / or Cheongnyangni next.

[Yarichin]

Ok, so I'm in an officetel in Gangnam. And every night when I go home late there are girls sitting outside on the steps or around it. Not just any girls. The kind who dress trashy and hold designer handbags. There's also the occasional older man who works out entirely too much and is just hanging around.

This is crazy. What do I do? I speak no Korean.

[Yarichin]

1. Dabang. BBFS available and gets the edge over RLD due to better attitude (in my opinion).I really want to try out Dabangs. Can you writeup a quick guide how to? Also, I speak no Korean. Think I could get a friend to order me one and then be like,"surprise!"?

[Member #4601]

Yarichin, I don't mean to be blunt, but there's a point where you'll have to stop asking and start trying. If you want to try getting a Korean friend to order at a dabang and then substitute with you, then go ahead and try it. I guess the worse that can happen is that the girl will walk out. The more time you worry about finding a guarantee score, the less time you have left in Korea (didn't you say you're here for only a month?).

I guess I'm the one to talk about trying, because I just asked about RECENT experiences at the RLD's in Miari and Cheongnyangni, having never been to either place. But regardless of if there are any replies here, I intend on going to Miari soon. I know how to get there, and I know the basic lay of the land, thanks to the previous posts on this thread. We'll see how it goes.

Also, if your lack of speaking Korean is such a problem, then can't you learn some? I'm actually taking a Korean language class in Seoul, and while I'm saw the girl@Cheonho on Sunday night, I was able to practice speaking Korean to her. It was fun.

[Jojo407]

Ok, so I'm in an officetel in Gangnam. And every night when I go home late there are girls sitting outside on the steps or around it. Not just any girls. The kind who dress trashy and hold designer handbags. There's also the occasional older man who works out entirely too much and is just hanging around.

This is crazy. What do I do? I speak no Korean. Say "Yah!" or "Kori Gah!" loudly.

[Member #4601]

@Jojo407: LOL!

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Well, I went to Miari last night, and it was a learning experience. First, there were a lot of pushy ajumma's. I got tired of saying "I'll look around more and come back" in Korean. I hardly saw any ajummas at Cheonho.

I ended up going to the first place I passed, which was the first one on the left when you go into the left entrance. The ajumma there thought for some reason that I was Japanese. That was a first. Unfortunately, upstairs in that place reeked of smoke and pot. Mistake number one. I was not able to choose the girl, and I was given the oldest of the three who were there, probably early 30s, her body a 6 or 7. Mistake number two. Said girl was super rushed, even though I chose short time. Mistake number three. I had opportunities to walk out, but I simply didn't. I didn't want to deal with a pissed off girl and / or an ajumma. The girl was somewhat tight, so I was able to get off.

Here's my question. If you go to a house in a RLD with multiple girls, can you pick the girl or not? Because so far, I haven't picked the girl when I first enter such a house. At a house with multiple girls@Cheonho, one of the girls would stand up and lead me upstairs. I've been rather passive about all of this; should I have been more assertive, look at the selection, and March up to the one I want?

[Dissolved Boy]

I haven't heard much about this place outside of the protests, so I decided to check it out today. I got there a little early and only saw ONE woman out there. On top of that, she didn't want to deal with a foreigner like me. Too bad because she was VERY busty. I got some dinner and came back a little later when it was darker, and it was busier. Is it me or are the plastic surgery noses simply disgusting on Korean women? It was so obvious. I was turned off to some of the A-row girls. Anyway, I wandered around the corner to the B-team.

I saw a decent looking older woman sitting down in front of a small hallway and she greeted me with a smile. Like I said in previous posts, if a woman's first reaction doesn't have that "Oh no, not a foreigner" look on her face, I'm ok. She asked me in Korean how much I had, so I replied with a simple,"How much is it?". She says 50K. I'm thinking this is getting better. We went to her room.

When I get there, she has me undress and leaves for a sec. She came back in and as she took off her clothes, she said for an extra 20K, she'd go down on me. She seemed nice enough, so I said sure. She started to put the condom on, and I asked her if we could go without it. She said no, so I asked for my 20 back. She asked if I had any STD (in Korean) to which I answer no. She reluctantly went down on me, but it was the worst. She went no further than the tip and just looked like wasn't having a good time. I knew this was going nowhere so I just asked her to get this over with.

She got on her back and motioned me to enter her. I guess she thought I wanted to do bareback sex! NO no no. I threw the condom on and did missionary. This is where it went from bad to TERRIBLE. As I came-or rather near the end of me cumming-she pulled back and left me finishing in the condom. WITHOUT a pussy around it. It was as if she was afraid of me coming IN her! That's what the condom is FOR. Duh! I was PISSED off. I didn't have enough Korean in me to convey my rage, but I told her in Korean that next time I'm picking another girl. I wouldn't come back.

This was such a bad experience that I not only want to ever go back to Youngdengpo, but I'm pretty salty about the P4P experience totally, at the moment. Waiting for a week or two for this kind of treat only for it to go terribly wrong is not something that leaves a good taste in one's mouth. I'm sure that'll change in a couple of weeks though.

In short, I don't know about your experiences, Gentlemen, but I'd steer clear of Youngdengpo. Miari is still the best RLD. I will go the extra distance there for the better service and honestly better looking ladies.

[Dissolved Boy]

Here's my question. If you go to a house in a RLD with multiple girls, can you pick the girl or not? Because so far, I haven't picked the girl when I first enter such a house. At a house with multiple girls@Cheonho, one of the girls would stand up and lead me upstairs. I've been rather passive about all of this; should I have been more assertive, look at the selection, and March up to the one I want?Yeah, you should definitely have been more assertive. However, sometimes you have to gauge the mood. I'd rather have a decent looking girl that WANTS to be with me vs. A HOT chick who I choose who just obliges because she's getting paid.

Good luck!

[Member #4601]

Okay, I tried a couple of B-row girls at the RLD and. Ugh, I can see the foreigners have it bad. If they made up for their lack of looks in service, I could understand but. One girl was litterly having seizures while blowing me and having sex, I think she thought it was sexy or something. I didn't even manage to pop, but she insisted I keep trying and she kept jerking me and making grunting noises. I seriously think she thought she was being sexy. One girl just stopped when I went limp, thinking I came. Which I didn't.

Well, here are my current thoughts now. This post is quite comprehensive, and I appreciate the time you took in writing it up. Just a couple of comments.


Where to go for Attitude

4. RLD. They'll act all interested, but once you're inside it's wham-bam. I only pay for "short time" visits. At Miari, the girl was way Rushed. At Cheonho, I actually have't felt rushed, despite paying for "short time."


Where to go for Cost

1. RLD. 70, 000 won for 15 minutes. Cheapest. I thought "short time" was 20 minutes. Anyway, the price can vary. When I went to Miari Friday night, it was 80, 000 for 20 minutes.


Where to go for Service

3. Anma. CFS but a lot of anal rimming. I've been to two anmas. I'm not a fan of AR, so at the 2nd anma, I actually told the girl (in my broken Korean) not To do AR, and she agreed. (I also asked her if we could do BBFS, but she said no. Can't have everything, I suppose.)

[Member #4601]

Yeah, you should definitely have been more assertive. However, sometimes you have to gauge the mood. I'd rather have a decent looking girl that WANTS to be with me vs. A HOT chick who I choose who just obliges because she's getting paid.

Good luck! Thanks for the advice. And kudos to you for being a foreigner and speaking some Korean. I just don't know how anyone can learn the language. And I'm a gyopo! .

[Looking Inrok]

Does anyone know of any places that do BBBJ with CIM?

I've been to Belle once. It was great, but no finish in the girl's mouth.

[Jojo407]

Does anyone know of any places that do BBBJ with CIM?

I've been to Belle once. It was great, but no finish in the girl's mouth.Most of Hooker Hill in Itaewon, negotiate before hand about what you want and price. Establishments that do this for foreigners, nope.

[Kimchi Warrior]

In nearly twenty years, I've never been to an anma or room salon that accepted foreigners where BBJCIM was not readily available; the problem with domestic-oriented establishments is getting in the door; as we all know those that accept round-eyes are few and far between.

As for the 'ville, BBBJCIM has been and remains a standard feature of the repertoire unless, I suppose, you are a nasty piece of work and / or looking for a deep discount off a girl's regular pricing, in which case you understandably are going to get a lower level of service, if any at all. The only time in my experience when a girl expressed any hesitation she was a very young newbie on her first night and when she watched her equally young and inexperienced friend step up. Or should that be "kneel down" . And take a combo CIM / facial she was quick to demand an encore for herself. Bottom line is that you may want to confirm it's on the menu before parting with your dosh, but it's never a priced extra; if a girl asks extra she's either trying to see what she can get over with or she's not much interested in you as a customer, and it's best to move on.


Most of Hooker Hill in Itaewon, negotiate before hand about what you want and price. Establishments that do this for foreigners, nope.
Does anyone know of any places that do BBBJ with CIM?

I've been to Belle once. It was great, but no finish in the girl's mouth.

[Tnt1833]

Anyone have any recent information on Hotel Capital. Went there a long time ago (3 Years) and service was good. RTFF and found nothing new. Will be heading up their in a month or two, would like to get a recon report from someone if possible before I make a visit.

[I Miss Millenium]

Last night in Korea, went to Itaewan for some good times. Spent most of the night drinking at Debut (very cool "regular" bar with some friendly ladies) , intermittently scoping out some select spots: I was looking for Mi-hae at ING based on intel from a fellow hobbyist, but I never saw anything going on there. Also was keeping an eye on Texas based on an awesome experience I had with Nara my last time in town, but ever didn't see anyone there either. A few hours and many beers later, went looking for Cherry at Happy Days based on some glowing reviews of her oral skills throughout ISG. Turned out great. She said $100 for BJ, and then I asked about AR, she said $300. Negotiated to $200 (long time) with promise of $50 tip if she was good. She took me back to her apt and washed me up nicely, and we got to it. Now, I am a connoisseur of AR and I typically request it from an SP, but Cherry's performance was like nothing I had experienced before (it was just amazing the way she went at it with reckless abandon). I had high expections of her BJ skills based on other reviews. I would say these were a bit overrated (IMO she was over-aggresive and couldn't go very deep. She dramatically improved when I asked her to slow down, but IMO her BJ skills don't compare to Nara@Texas). Although Cherry may not be the hottest girl on the hill (real thick, even by American standards, but with some huge tits and an attractive face) , the overall experience was truly top notch, so much so that I tipped $100 instead of the $50 I had promised. Afterwards, she asked me about how I knew of her, and I told her about ISG. She was pretty alarmed at first but calmed when I told her there were no pictures. I'm surprised that SP's wouldn't know about these forums (also had similar discussion from Nara before). Shouldn't these girls know about their profession and hobbyist tools? I generally try to spread awareness so girls consider the importance of delivering good service (benefits us all right?). Anyways, experience was great and I will definitely seek out Cherry again next time I'm in town.

[Jojo407]

Last night in Korea, went to Itaewan for some good times. Spent most of the night drinking at Debut (very cool "regular" bar with some friendly ladies) , intermittently scoping out some select spots: I was looking for Mi-hae at ING based on intel from a fellow hobbyist, but I never saw anything going on there. Also was keeping an eye on Texas based on an awesome experience I had with Nara my last time in town, but ever didn't see anyone there either. A few hours and many beers later, went looking for Cherry at Happy Days based on some glowing reviews of her oral skills throughout ISG. Turned out great. She said $100 for BJ, and then I asked about AR, she said $300. Negotiated to $200 (long time) with promise of $50 tip if she was good. She took me back to her apt and washed me up nicely, and we got to it. Now, I am a connoisseur of AR and I typically request it from an SP, but Cherry's performance was like nothing I had experienced before (it was just amazing the way she went at it with reckless abandon). I had high expections of her BJ skills based on other reviews. I would say these were a bit overrated (IMO she was over-aggresive and couldn't go very deep. She dramatically improved when I asked her to slow down, but IMO her BJ skills don't compare to Nara@Texas). Although Cherry may not be the hottest girl on the hill (real thick, even by American standards, but with some huge tits and an attractive face) , the overall experience was truly top notch, so much so that I tipped $100 instead of the $50 I had promised. Afterwards, she asked me about how I knew of her, and I told her about ISG. She was pretty alarmed at first but calmed when I told her there were no pictures. I'm surprised that SP's wouldn't know about these forums (also had similar discussion from Nara before). Shouldn't these girls know about their profession and hobbyist tools? I generally try to spread awareness so girls consider the importance of delivering good service (benefits us all right?). Anyways, experience was great and I will definitely seek out Cherry again next time I'm in town.The first rule of ISG is. Don't tell providers about ISG. I'm happy you had a good time, but don't tell providers about this thing we got here. And I'm surprised she did AR. Every provider is a little different with their customers. For instance, I got quoted for a BJ cheaper and I was told no AR when I saw her. AR, next time. Next time.

[Kimchi Warrior]

Afterwards, she asked me about how I knew of her, and I told her about ISG. She was pretty alarmed at first but calmed when I told her there were no pictures. I'm surprised that SP's wouldn't know about these forums (also had similar discussion from Nara before). Shouldn't these girls know about their profession and hobbyist tools? I generally try to spread awareness so girls consider the importance of delivering good service (benefits us all, no?).

Actually, as previously mentioned here, this can be a real problem. Knowledge of the forum leads girls to check it out, from which they can often figure out the identities of punters, for whom they then can make trouble is so inclined for any number of reasons; it has happened before, as many providers found out about the board from another loose-lipped monger some time ago. Just let the regular market mechanisms signal the providers what works and what doesn't.

[Looking Inrok]

the overall experience was truly top notch, so much so that I tipped $100 instead of the $50 I had promised. Afterwards, she asked me about how I knew of her, and I told her about ISG. She was pretty alarmed at first but calmed when I told her there were no pictures. I'm surprised that SP's wouldn't know about these forums (also had similar discussion from Nara before). Shouldn't these girls know about their profession and hobbyist tools? I generally try to spread awareness so girls consider the importance of delivering good service (benefits us all right?). Anyways, experience was great and I will definitely seek out Cherry again next time I'm in town.I think what KW was getting at was this: don't tell the providers about the damned forum. Guess what? Now she knows your I'd (since you described your experience and conversations with a lot of detail) , and she'll now be able to tell other providers who you are and what you write (about them). You kind of screwed yourself over more than anyone else in this case.

One problem I have with your post is the money you threw at the girl. For the $300 you paid, you could have had a SERIOUSLY top notch Anma experience with mulitple girls, the main one of whom would do AR for you anyways. You paid that much and didn't even get to do anything with her below the waist? All the extra cash you threw at her was worth a few trips to the RLD. If you're rich and can afford to chuck the cash around like that, more power to you, but do us a favor and help keep the prices down and reasonable.

[Looking Inrok]

Would someone mind giving a general pricing guide for the hill and bars in Itaewon? I usually play in the anmas and massage joints, but I'd like to check out the scene in Itaewon.