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ShimShimHeyo
09-12-18, 13:38
I've been to a bunch of Gangnam Anmas so far, including Fish, Ace, and Donut. My experience has been very mixed. Of my 4 trips, only once resulted in an actual hot young girl. The other ones were clearly leftovers that Korean clients did not want. So I'm curious. Do the RLDs, such as Cheon-Ho, have better looking and younger girls than the Anmas? Or is it about the same? If the quality is higher in the RLDs, I might go check one out this weekend. Any advice would be appreciated!What Rain said is all spot on. Also, you have to be warned that the accommodations in Cheonho are pretty ghetto compared to Gangnam anmas. The room is tiny, the bed is tiny and the showers are. Well not is the best of shape. It's not filthy in any way but the buildings and rooms are run down. Also you should be aware that Cheonho is like fast food. Unless you are a repeat customer and the girl knows / likes you, expect zero GFE. Cheonho girls are also notorious for super strict clock watching. Especially during prime time, the girl wants to get back downstairs and land another guy as soon as possible.

However there is a game that I play with some of the guys. "Iron Man Triathlon" or "The Triple Crown" There is a street of bars just down the road from Cheonho. Drink a few pints of beer there and take a shot. Head to Cheonho and bang one girl. Go back down the street to the bar area and drink a few more pints of beer and another shot. Go back and bang another girl. Head back to the bar and drink a final few pints and take one last shot. Trek back to Cheonho and bang a third girl.

Fun times.

ShimShimHeyo
09-12-18, 13:49
You mean for an hour with mechanical service and a clock watcher with 20 min or so of ACTUAL fun?? LOL no thanks.I have to agree. I used to visit anmas 3-4 times a month at $200+ per visit. I was stupid. There is a lot more fun to be had with a $250 round trip ticket to Thailand or The Philippines with girls that do not have a stuck up, princess complexes.

I've been in Korea for over 20 years and anmas have closed down left and right. Travel to Bangkok or Manila and you'll see that a lot of Korean men are visiting. It appears that even the Koreans are learning that the prices in Seoul and quality of services are lame and ridiculous.

JookMeUp
09-15-18, 20:16
I fully endorse and recommend Bunny, a Thai lady in Korea only for a couple of weeks at a time. This is her second trip this year and she might be here again next month. You'll find her on MR under the name Bunny. She is in her early 30's, beautiful tan skin, not thin like a stick, and she enjoys what she does. The price is right, too.

She does outcall only, and is not a clock watcher. A real sweet girl, so treat her nice. I hope she comes again and again.

StinkyFeet
09-15-18, 21:37
Thanks for the advice. Macau sounds like a better idea, it looks like $200-300 can get you pretty far in terms of service at saunas. I still might spend some time in Korea just to eat. I don't really want to go to Bangkok because I don't want to be asked, "Why did you go to Bangkok for only 3 days?" kind of thing.I really don't recommend Macau anymore. It's ridiculously expensive. The big saunas are now 400 usd use for an hour with a girl. Some want more. Those aren't even model level girls but normal level. Familiar noble went up to almost 500 usd for an hour! Darling is the best deal in Macau now at about 300 usd for 75 minutes but it's not a full service sauna like the big ones.

If you're already in Korea better to stay there and explore other cities like Pusan. I had a lot of fun with three of their rld.

FYI, I pass for Korean.

Mufasa79
09-25-18, 06:42
Any experienced mongerers have thoughts on this place? "Kisstar" in Suwon. I'm hoping its either a kiss bang or lip cafe of sorts. Looking for some other opinions before checking it out.

Gen X Baer
09-30-18, 14:16
Any experienced mongerers have thoughts on this place? "Kisstar" in Suwon. I'm hoping its either a kiss bang or lip cafe of sorts. Looking for some other opinions before checking it out.Check it out and write a report.

StinkyFeet
10-02-18, 14:04
Any experienced mongerers have thoughts on this place? "Kisstar" in Suwon. I'm hoping its either a kiss bang or lip cafe of sorts. Looking for some other opinions before checking it out.Uhmmmm. Can you speak Korean? Do you look like a local? Korea is a xenophobic place you know.

ThatGuy68
10-03-18, 01:37
I'm a newbie to the South Korea forum. After 2 trips to Thailand I wanted to do a 30 day tour of multiple places. 3 days or so at each. SK, Japan, Macau, Bali, Philippines, Burma, Bangladesh and NYE in Thailand. Korea and Japan was 2 places I was really looking forward to.

I've read back a few years and kind of feel disappointed. I'm a 30 year old westerner that speaks not a lick of Korean. Being younger I was looking for lady in the 18-22 range. Should probably cross SK off the list? Unfortunately, Japan no vaginal play has me ready to skip northern Asia altogether. The prices someone just posted about Macau is crazy too. Any advice would be appreciated. Pm is fine too.

D1313
10-03-18, 14:59
Hello,

I'm planning to visit Seoul in a couple of weeks with some college friends. A couple of us have expressed interest in the Seoul P4P scene. We're white guys in our early 30's from the US. Korean knowledge ranges from none to very little (myself). Not much mongering experience along us, but I have been to a couple of pink salons (BJ bars) and a soap land in Tokyo before.

I've looked through the threads here and done some research elsewhere on the web. I also have an Adal account. I have a couple of questions that I'd love some up-to-date advice on.

1) We're staying within walking distance of Itaewon Station and Hooker Hill. Is there still a scene on the hill? If so, what're prices like these days?

2) Gangnam anmas? I realize the recent posts have been how they're overpriced, but I enjoyed my one soap land visit in Japan and have heard that anmas are a bit similar. Is Ace still a reliable choice for foreigners? And what rates are they charging us these days? And is MVP-VIP still in business and foreigner friendly? Prices? Finally, is mid morning too early to visit these places? The Ace listing on Adal shows more girls in the evening, so is that usually the best time to visit?

3) RLDs? Some recent posts have indicated that Cheonho and Miari Texas are still going strong, with going rates at around 100 k won in Cheonho be & see and a bit less in Miari. I assume these are better in the evening? Any day action at all in either?

4) Ordering girls by phone from a love motel? One of my Korean friends has mentioned ordering girls to a love motel and might even be willing to call for me. Anyone done this? What's the quality of girls / service like? And prices?

Thanks in advance for any help or advice you're willing to provide.

Christian G
10-03-18, 19:49
Japan no vaginal play has me ready to skip northern Asia altogether. Just go to the Soaplands or Osaka's red light districts like Tobita Shinchi and you will have a "vaginal play". But it's not cheap.

ThatGuy68
10-04-18, 04:38
Just go to the Soaplands or Osaka's red light districts like Tobita Shinchi and you will have a "vaginal play". But it's not cheap.Thanks for the tip! Hadn't made it that far down on the forum. Was too focused on going back far on the first 5 more active threads. Exactly what I was looking for. Seishun street here I come!

Rob86
10-04-18, 08:43
Hi,

I am coming to Seoul (Gangnam) for a week, first time in Asia. European white, English only.

I have read few pages and sites and it seems my options in Gangnam are:

1. Anmas. Ace, Belle, Fish, or which are the best for BBBJ? Price?

2. Lip cafes / karaoke bars / barber poles places. Since I do not speak Koren, are there any available?

3. Any other option how to get good BJ from a Korean hottie in 20's?

I would really appreciate your help regardless that I have just registered. I have read few pages and I will provide a report after and start using this forum regularly.

LovinAsia
10-04-18, 13:20
Does anyone know if Yeoungdeungpo RLD has showers or not? I rarely see any posts for that RLD. Cheonho does. ID prefer showering if possible rather than wipes.

Aksg2018
10-06-18, 08:52
Hi,

On a business trip staying near samseoung.

Any contacts to massage places or Anmas or independent freelancers would be great.

In Seoul for next 2 weeks. Requesting seniors from forum to help out.

RainMania
10-08-18, 07:52
Just dropped my filipina off at the airport.

20 yr old, uni student, pharmacist in the making. She arrived on Thursday evening, 3. 5 days later she's on her way back to Manila with her snatch and ass full of my cum. Plus plenty of 1+1 goods from cosmetics stores and the lot, she plans to sell them to her classmates back home for a profit (her money, not mine).

Total cost to me: 300 k won (flight tickets) and about an extra 100 k on food and fuel.

Tell me again why paying the same for one pop with a massage republic provider is a reasonable idea?

Venturism
10-08-18, 16:28
Just dropped my filipina off at the airport.

20 yr old, uni student, pharmacist in the making. She arrived on Thursday evening, 3. 5 days later she's on her way back to Manila with her snatch and ass full of my cum. Plus plenty of 1+1 goods from cosmetics stores and the lot, she plans to sell them to her classmates back home for a profit (her money, not mine).

Total cost to me: 300 k won (flight tickets) and about an extra 100 k on food and fuel.

Tell me again why paying the same for one pop with a massage republic provider is a reasonable idea?I'm very interested in how you did that. Did you have to first visit Manila or did you find her on a website?

RainMania
10-09-18, 00:06
I'm very interested in how you did that. Did you have to first visit Manila or did you fingd her on a website?I visit the Philippines every 2-4 months. I get to meet beautiful new university students every trip, and I have a roster of star performers from my previous trips I hook up with. Obviously all P4 P (look up the Philippines section of this site for more info).

I tend to go for passport-ready girls (ones who already have their passports), but this latest one didn't have her passport when we first met in January in Manila. With her being a wiling 3-holer, I encouraged her to get her passport, which she finally completed in July (takes a good while for Filipinos to get their passports, lots of hoops to jump through). After that, she applied for her tourist visa to Korea, which was granted without a hitch, probably because her family had the funds to support her travel.

Between January and now, this is the 3rd filipina that has visited Korea for the purpose of draining my cock, in addition to my visits to the Philippines. On average they stay for about 5 days to a week. Takes a lot of patience and preparation, but ultimately in the end you're more than repaid multiple times over.

Marwar58
10-11-18, 05:50
Thanks for posters' info. In town for short visit so limited options. Tried Ace Anma. I am non Korean looking if that matters.

Price 280 K.

1 pop. 1 hour (sort of).

Assisted shower before / after.

BBBJ / FS.

No GFE.

No actual massage.

Nice looking Korean girl, a bit overweight.

A nice time.

Repeat--certainly not at that level of service for price.

LovinAsia
10-11-18, 14:09
Thanks for posters' info. In town for short visit so limited options. Tried Ace Anma. I am non Korean looking if that matters.

Price 280 K.

1 pop. 1 hour (sort of).

Assisted shower before / after.

BBBJ / FS.

No GFE.

No actual massage.

Nice looking Korean girl, a bit overweight.

A nice time.

Repeat--certainly not at that level of service for price.1 more for the home team. Sigh.

Rainmania. Your thoughts? Hehe.

RainMania
10-12-18, 22:49
1 more for the home team. Sigh.

Rainmania. Your thoughts? Hehe.Sadly that is par for the course. Overpriced, but still cheaper than MR LOL.

Did OP specifically ask for the blind massage on his way out?

Now we can see why korean guys are flooding SE Asia in droves. Unfortunately they're taking their room salon / anma practices with them, complete with discouraging the local women from fraternising with westerners.

Kagasain
10-15-18, 13:33
This was my second attempt at Fish, first successful time. The previous time I went into the place, the lady asked me where I was from. I told her america she seemed hesitate so I walked away. This time after a long vacation I decided to try the relay instead of partaking with one shot. I been to other places, and when I told them I was Korean American they of coursed allowed me in, but charged me the foreign price. I need to learn the language, anyways after speaking with the guy he gave me the price of 240,000 won. I read in another post that someone was charged 230,000 so guess that not bad. The girls behind the counter laughed when I was describing the girl I wanted, guess they know English. It's a sauna place where you go downstairs, give a key and changed into a robe after showing. Made mistakes so guess they knew I was new such as walking in with my street shoes before I changed into the sandals. Rookie mistake, and grabbing a cup of water that was an ash tray by mistake. Anyways the guy called my number, and 3 other dudes came up the elevator with me. As other guys said is a night club theme where based on your number mama will assign you a girl. There first shot action happened. Basically it was a semi orgy with the girls making out with the other guys, and then fucking them with condom. So if you are gun shy this might not be the place for you. Unfortunately I think I was that night so I didn't finish. The same girl then took me to another floor, where we had a one on one session. Talked a little then she showered me, a little massage with oil, as she rubbed her body on me, and then would stroke junior while I was still laying on my stomach, turn over some more. BBBJ, condom, CG, DFK, was so ready that I finished in MISH with plenty of time left so we talked until the phone ran, then guy came sent me to the elevator, pressed the button and went back downstairs to change. Really like the place over Start. Start had the girls changed but sometimes you don't know who you get. Not sure if next time I would get a different girl but this round I really liked my girl. However, I can see if you don't then who knows maybe you can ask for a change. Will repeat again.

RainMania
10-17-18, 09:50
This was my second attempt at Fish, first successful time. The previous time I went into the place, the lady asked me where I was from. I told her america she seemed hesitate so I walked away. This time after a long vacation I decided to try the relay instead of partaking with one shot. I been to other places, and when I told them I was Korean American they of coursed allowed me in, but charged me the foreign price. I need to learn the language, anyways after speaking with the guy he gave me the price of 240,000 won. I read in another post that someone was charged 230,000 so guess that not bad. The girls behind the counter laughed when I was describing the girl I wanted, guess they know English. It's a sauna place where you go downstairs, give a key and changed into a robe after showing. Made mistakes so guess they knew I was new such as walking in with my street shoes before I changed into the sandals. Rookie mistake, and grabbing a cup of water that was an ash tray by mistake. Anyways the guy called my number, and 3 other dudes came up the elevator with me. As other guys said is a night club theme where based on your number mama will assign you a girl. There first shot action happened. Basically it was a semi orgy with the girls making out with the other guys, and then fucking them with condom. So if you are gun shy this might not be the place for you. Unfortunately I think I was that night so I didn't finish. The same girl then took me to another floor, where we had a one on one session. Talked a little then she showered me, a little massage with oil, as she rubbed her body on me, and then would stroke junior while I was still laying on my stomach, turn over some more. BBBJ, condom, CG, DFK, was so ready that I finished in MISH with plenty of time left so we talked until the phone ran, then guy came sent me to the elevator, pressed the button and went back downstairs to change. Really like the place over Start. Start had the girls changed but sometimes you don't know who you get. Not sure if next time I would get a different girl but this round I really liked my girl. However, I can see if you don't then who knows maybe you can ask for a change. Will repeat again.Good report Kagasain.

Looking forward to your future adventures.

StackCats00
10-18-18, 18:16
Anyone down for hardcore style full salon in gangnam tomorrow? (Friday).

I'm Korean American my Korean is pretty good so no issues getting in.

Hmu.

Kagasain
10-18-18, 23:30
Forgot to add that they were all wearing those white Korean sailor or police officer uniforms. One of them even had the hat.

Patrack10
10-19-18, 14:14
Anyone down for hardcore style full salon in gangnam tomorrow? (Friday).

I'm Korean American my Korean is pretty good so no issues getting in.

Hmu.And on Saturday? I will be in Seoul.

Zipp0
10-19-18, 18:44
And on Saturday? I will be in Seoul.I will be in Seoul all next week and would totally appreciate an "in". I work with many Koreans, but hesitate to ask them as I want to keep it professional. I am a white American guy, professional, clean cut. My nights after 7 pm will be free. For the help I would be very willing to hook you up with some cash for your own fun. I'll have a Korean phone number while in Seoul.

StackCats00
10-20-18, 04:05
I would buy a membership to PM you guys but my CC is from the US. Hmmmm.

Zipp0
10-20-18, 10:18
I would buy a membership to PM you guys but my CC is from the US. Hmmmm.My CC is US also. We could meet in a specific hotel lobby or other place.

TitanX
10-22-18, 19:09
Was in Seoul earlier this month and paid a visit to the hill on a Sunday night after striking out at a couple of civvy club / bars. I walked up the hill and I saw an early to mid 40's MILF in a blue dress. She was slim with a flat stomach and a nice rack. We negotiated down to 80 k and she started with a spirited CBJ. She couldn't take k9 but took mish well and gave a good reverse CG. I saw a few lookers in other bars but most were about average. The hill will do the trick if your not a picky guy. Just my .02.

JookMeUp
10-23-18, 14:20
Has anyone been with Veeda? She's been on Massage Republic, City of Love, and previously Backpage when it existed. She always claims to be 'Canadian-Laos mix" and that English is her first language, but that is BS.

I can't tell whether she is a Thai girl with a boob job or a Thai boy-girl postop. She's advrtised in Korea for over a year. Sometimes I think about trying her out but then I can't find any reviews so I back off.

Anyone?

Regeil68
10-25-18, 07:51
Hi,

I will be visiting Seoul in 2 weeks during a week-end.

I would like to have good advises for good experiences.

Thanks.

ThirdEy3
10-30-18, 00:19
Hey ISG,

Been lurking on here for the past year or so. Decided to finally contribute. So, on my way home from work, I noticed a big sign saying "Seoul Anma" in Hangul. (Cross the street outside of exit 6 of Guro Digital Complex Stn line 2) it's on the right side of Lotteria, you can't miss it. I've been to Cheonho, 588, and the Hill. But, I've never made it into an anma before. Took the elevator to the 5th floor, signs clearly guiding you along the way. Upon entering, greeted by the mamasan and some male staff. I'm gyopo, but speak very little Korean. I didn't understand everything that was being said, but I think I was mistaken for a native Korean at first. I was initially quoted 190 k, but was then asked for 210 k when she realized how bad my Korean was LOL. I was pissed, but decided to pay. Was told it would include 1 HR with an agassi followed by a 40 minute massage from an ajumma. Showered and was soon asked what type of girl I wanted. I told the man I wanted a young girl with a pretty face. 5 minutes or so later, I'm brought upstairs and led to a hallway with the girls rooms. I'm greeted by a girl who looked to be in her mid to late 20's. Very thin, pale skin, light brown dyed hair, decent face. Tight white dress. Not super sexy, but certainly nothing to complain about. I explained that I don't speak Korean well and we made small talk over a cup of water and a cigarette. This lasted no more than 5 minutes. She then told me to strip down and move to the shower section of the room. She stripped down too and showed off a nice little body. Small tits and tiny nipples, little round ass, and a trimmed Bush. She washed me down mechanically and had me lay on my stomach. The massage gel felt great as she covered my back, ass, and legs. She then oiled up her tits and stomach before sliding her body from my shoulders down to my calves, and back up again. Soon, I felt a different sensation on my legs and looked back to see her tonging my legs rapidly. Her eyes met mine and she slowly slid her tongue up to my balls and taint. She began the rimming and kept her eyes locked with mine. This was my first time getting rimmed and I loved it! She began reaching under to play with my balls and shaft. At this point, I'm on all fours, rock hard. She tongues my ass some more while jerking me off before having me turn over. She repeated the body slide on my front side, and grinded her bare pussy on my balls and up my shaft. She made her way down for a BBBJ, spending plenty of time licking my balls and taint. I shoved her head back down to my ass and she didn't miss a beat. She held my legs up in the air and went to town. Time to wash off the oil and I'm honestly light headed LOL. Make our way to the bedroom after drying off. Little soft massage and BBBJ before she puts the condom on with her mouth. She gets on top for cowgirl before I flip her over for missionary. Standing mish. Standing doggy. Doggy. Loved looking in the mirror next to the bed! While in doggy, the phone rang. She ignored it, but told me I needed to finish. I pushed her down on her stomach and pounded away. She arched her little ass up a little bit and I pulled on her hair as I let myself cum inside her. I collapsed on top of her, still inside. We caught our breath for a minute like that before cleaning up. She put the condom in aluminum foil! Weird. Then picked up the phone and let them know the deed was done. Was escorted downstairs by a different guy. Had to ask for a massage (was shown to the dressing room first). Massage from blind ajumma was good and unrushed. Spent a good HR and 50 minutes there. All in all, the girl I got had a good attitude and was cute. Pissed about the foreigner tax, but might go back here.

Sorry for the long review. Looking forward to sharing more with you guys.

Xfreak0000
11-03-18, 13:27
Hey ISG,

Been lurking on here for the past year or so. Decided to finally contribute. So, on my way home from work, I noticed a big sign saying "Seoul Anma" in Hangul. (Cross the street outside of exit 6 of Guro Digital Complex Stn line 2) it's on the right side of Lotteria, you can't miss it. I've been to Cheonho, 588, and the Hill. But, I've never made it into an anma before. Took the elevator to the 5th floor, signs clearly guiding you along the way. Upon entering, greeted by the mamasan and some male staff. I'm gyopo, but speak very little Korean. I didn't understand everything that was being said, but I think I was mistaken for a native Korean at first. I was initially quoted 190 k, but was then asked for 210 k when she realized how bad my Korean was LOL. I was pissed, but decided to pay. Was told it would include 1 HR with an agassi followed by a 40 minute massage from an ajumma..They ask about your girl preferences, but normally it does not work. They just ask and that's all, but if you want to have a more beautiful girl then you can reject the first girl then they will take you to more beautiful girl. Next time try.

Omen19
11-07-18, 17:23
Tonight I met Joo A.

https://south-korea.topescortbabes.com/fr/mobile/escorts/joo-a_384570

In summary she is extremely cute, but has a bad attitude. Key points were:

- She was about an hour late.

- She has a slim, tight body, with soft skin and a nice shaved pussy.

- Sex was good initially, however she seemed to lose enthusiasm over time, eventually encouraging me to finish quickly as she seemed to want to get to her next client. This was bad considering it was only 45 minutes into an hour booking.

Kagasain
11-10-18, 07:21
I went to VIP after a room salon, and after drinking a bottle of rice wine so I don't really blame the girl. The price is still 120 won but I thought last time I was there they took credit cards, that was over a year ago so I don't recall but they said they don't. The manager escorted me to a small room and told me to take a shower and change into the pair of shorts on the bed. The shower was small but private. Waited for a while I could hear the other guys and girls having fun, finally after what seemed like forever I rung the bell not sure if the girl would had shown up if I didn't. Last time the girl was in the room with me. The girl this time was Asian looking but didn't say anything she just laid on the bed smile and started to kiss my nipples and stroke junior until she pulled the shorts off, some kissing on the other side of my chest, down my legs and junior with some sucking on the balls, she rubbed under the ass area but no rimming and didn't insert a finger thank god. After the BJ, on came the condom and she rode me until she told me to switch I could feel the lube dripping put of her at least I hoped. Did her mish was looking to see anything suspicious but it just seemed she used a lot of lube. Either cause I wasn't feeling, too much lube, drunk or a combo junior couldn't stay hard so ended with a hand job while she rubbed her pussy in mish. Not bad for the price and would repeat sometimes but there other place to explore hopefully with the same price, she said she was Chinese.

Kagasain
11-10-18, 07:53
Was walking around gangnam when a guy asked me if I wanted to go to a karaoke room and some sex in Korean, but awhile he started speaking English when he realized my Korean was bad. Asked him how much it was he told me 330 won figured that wasn't bad. He led me to a nearby place the place was called glam not sure if you need a guide ot can go in by yourself it had some people standing by. Anyways he took me upstairs where I did the mirror thing there were about 6 girls, I saw others but guessing that you have to be Korean speaking to get all the girls. Picked put the one I liked, we did some karaoke, spoke with a translation and at one point she gave me a BJ but blue balled me, finally went to the upstairs for sex, took a shower alone, all position condom, BBBJ, and guess cause she blue balled me I pounded the crap out of her. You are excepted to tip the servers, guy in the room brought stuff twice, and then the hotel staff so about 370 spent not bad I think, last time I went to a room salon it was like 500.

ShenyangKnows
11-14-18, 13:06
Had a trip to Seoul for business. Not looking forward to it. Seems Seoul is the hardest place for Foreigner unless you look Korean.

Tried Escorts699 or 699 Escort. Girl was hot but service was rushed and she just tried to get in and get out in 30 minutes even though promised an hour. 250 k. Not Worth it.

Found a girl on Massage Republic who actually advertised she's 36. Connected on WeChat. She sent a photo. Everything in my gut told me she was lying but I couldn't resist. She was in fact the woman in the photo. Body was a 9 face was a 6. She's good at what she does. 250 k unrushed 1 pop. Very affectionate and kind and good provider.

Got a little deep into ADAL7 and looking for Hyugetels but not much luck. Just too difficult without language skills.

The map that is posted between pages 23-28 several times is totally worth checking out. The key with that map is to look at the listing. The map was made by someone from HongKong so if you can read some Chinese you can see costs and services and open / close time. More importantly on the map listing they update it with Links that are either bit. Ly or *******.com and they lead to a website that is HongKong based. Click on the links and let Google translate for you. I checked the dates to see which places had the most recent reports and then went out from there.

Place #1 - Donut (on the map) but now called World. It's not difficult to find but upon entering I discussed services based on report from the HK guys. They were only offering 1 pop for 250 k. That was totally different from the reports and was no better than FISH or other places. The reason I leaned towards donut is that the reviews on HK were off the hook. I'm wondering now if they were guys just having a laugh or if they were real. They were talking about the place being similar to a FKK club in Germany where girls basically attack you with one goal and one goal only. To get you to pop as fast as possible. Sounded interesting and worth having a try. Nothing like that was on tap so I walked away.

I tried 7 spa because it had consistent reviews and the price was 120 k and I wasn't in the mood to get killed on price for a lackluster experience. 7 Spa is easy to find, it's clean and it's decent. Walked in and paid 120 k. Went into locker room and had a quick wash and a soak. Went into a room and a 40-50 something still halfway decent looking lady, gave me a warm up massage. She does a decent massage and ends with some prostate massage. Then she leaves after 30 minutes and a few minutes later a 7,8/10 walks in smiling and cheerful. She immediately strips and has a great body. She hops up on the table and provides some amazing nipple play, catbath and then start BBBJ. She deep throats really well and then asks if I want 69.69 isn't real because she said only look, no touch, no kiss. It was fine. She was good at her trade and I had no problem popping. As I was popping with her HJ she quickly put me in her mouth and CIM. Afterwards she get's dressed, asks if the service was good and give me a hug and a nice kiss. Then she escorts me to the door to the Locker Room smiles and whacks my butt and walks away. It was all done in 45 minutes and I was surprised by her attitude. She was really happy and smiley and seemed to enjoy what she does.

All in all I took a couple for the team and had two good experiences and one bad. The thing I don't like about Korea is what others have said. It's affluent and the providers aren't desperate for money. Since, as foreigners we are relegated to a very small segment of what's available in Korea for the sex trade the providers have all decided to gouge us. Since other countries are mostly sexually repressed when businessmen come here for business trips they pay what they have to for fun. I'll stick with China, Vietnam and Thailand for great service at a great cost. I didn't find Korean women so much more attractive that it's worth paying as much as 5 times the going rate.

I tried Busan on a previous trip and experience was similar to Seoul. Spent more than I wanted for less than I got.

Get that map if you are visiting for a short time. Also check out the 36 yr old on Massage Republic. Add her wechat and trust her. She's good.

DocInHeat
11-14-18, 19:03
Wow, they must be getting desperate. The only way I went into room salons was as a guest of someone. The places I've been to are unmarked and nobody could come off the street. Partially it was exclusivity, but also it was safety. There have been a number of government crackdowns.

QUOTE=Kagasain;2246874 Was walking around gangnam when a guy asked me if I wanted to go to a karaoke room and some sex in Korean, but awhile he started speaking English when he realized my Korean was bad. Asked him how much it was he told me 330 won figured that wasn't bad. He led me to a nearby place the place was called glam not sure if you need a guide ot can go in by yourself it had some people standing by. Anyways he took me upstairs where I did the mirror thing there were about 6 girls, I saw others but guessing that you have to be Korean speaking to get all the girls. Picked put the one I liked, we did some karaoke, spoke with a translation and at one point she gave me a BJ but blue balled me, finally went to the upstairs for sex, took a shower alone, all position condom, BBBJ, and guess cause she blue balled me I pounded the crap out of her. You are excepted to tip the servers, guy in the room brought stuff twice, and then the hotel staff so about 370 spent not bad I think, last time I went to a room salon it was like 500.

RainMania
11-18-18, 03:22
Had a trip to Seoul for business. Not looking forward to it. Seems Seoul is the hardest place for Foreigner unless you look Korean.

Tried Escorts699 or 699 Escort. Girl was hot but service was rushed and she just tried to get in and get out in 30 minutes even though promised an hour. 250 k. Not Worth it.Solid report. Thanks for the update. Glad to know I'm not missing anything with the Korean scene even though I'm still here LOL.

If you don't mind women in their early 30's to early 40's, miari is still alive and kicking (and still the same 80-90 k won). I was there the other night. My usual place had a new girl, mid 30's, size 6 or 8, wide shoulders, athletic body and very well rounded 'be-cups'. Did the whole wet wipes routine on my cock, followed by a BJ-mouthwash-BJ (also felt like the wet wipes had been dipped in mouthwash) Gave me a legit cat bath for like 10 minutes (up and down twice), followed by a decent full BJ.

She hopped on top, started off slowly to get her rhythm but made sure to slide the full length of my cock in and out with each thrust, woman knew how to ride. This went on for about 10 minutes, I wasn't even interested in changing position because it felt so good, like I was having sex for the first time all over again. She sped up, but not the aggressive pumping you see in pornos, but rather a rhythm that wouldn't tire her out quickly but still allowed her to use some of her muscle sets.

In all she rode me for about 20 minutes before I busted a creampie in her, the most intense orgasm I've had in a long time. She followed this with a brief BJ to suction out any remaining cum from my shaft (she really did suck it senseless for about 2-3 insane minutes) before going off to clean herself. Gave her a 20 k tip (I usually give 10 for good performers) and went on my way out.

All in all 10/10 experience with an above average-looking woman. The day this establishment closes will probably bring a tear to my eye LOL.

Kagasain
11-18-18, 06:05
It was closer to my hotel than Miri but still took me a good 40+minutes, Miri would had been over an hour. Place is dead, there was constructions everywhere, and one part that was still lit maybe 4 rooms, only 2 of them had girls in there but they were on the older side. Might have been cheap since they seem to be the last survivors.

Kagasain
11-18-18, 06:10
This place is near Jini Spa at Gangnam. Even though the sign said sport massage. It is a legit place. There are prices on the outside and inside. You go into a room, and then change into the throw away underwear and robe. Lady pretty much took them off me when she first got there so I thought maybe it was for display only but she cracked all of my tight muscles which I needed but nothing else. Maybe a few times there might be something on the side. Lowest price I think was 60,000 and the highest was like 160. Really needed it but was hoping for more. On the other hand outside I did see 2 barber poles so maybe another trip but I just don't like spending more money than I have to.

SeoulSearching
11-18-18, 08:54
This lady is a traveler who is just in Seoul for a couple of months. She works out of an officetel in Hongdae, and posts ads on CL charging 30 k for 1/2 hour (tips optional) or 60 k for an hour (tips optional).

The photo is a fake, although she is still attractive. She is legit massage, though. She tries to be coy about it and not come out and say that until you've had a session and spent some money. No happy ending here. Just wanted to tell people to save their money, unless they are only interested in legit massage.

SeoulSearching
11-18-18, 09:23
Are there still any Japanese-style Earwax cleaning places in Seoul? They were the rage 3 years ago, or so, according to the news.

Do they offer any special services? What are typical prices, please? Hoping for HJ or FJ, but also like the intimacy aspect.

Thanks.

SeoulSearching
11-19-18, 01:56
Wanted to introduce myself.

Have been lurking in this forum on and off over the years. I have been in Korea for a very long time, Long enough to remember when Itaewon Hooker Hill was packed, and girls there cleared 6 million a month, easy. I became well-acquainted enough with a few of them, over the years, to spend time at their homes doing odd jobs (no kidding). I was once younger, more attractive, and available. I have since moved away from Korea, but I do travel in often, due to family. I married a very hot lady, and we have 2 kids now. Little coin for playing. When I am back, I go hunting for HJ. Not interested in much more than that. I am too cheap, and enjoy the art of the deal more than the act. Have also had my share of bouts with infections just from BJ's. Be careful!

Pickings are slim, these days.

I still wander onto The Hill sometimes, and often duck in and out of massage joints. But those are also going away as women age and police crack down. Was frequenting a nice "legit massage" place out East in Seoul, but she is now working a government-related job and is going legit-only.

I look at posts of people paying 250 k and up for the full monty, and my jaw drops open. I don't pay for HJ unless it's under 60 k (and that is too much -- she better be young and hot). I prefer (and still get) 40 k. Sex must be 100 k, or less. I don't try for that often, but I still can get it for 70 k to 100 k, when I do. You have to know how to be like Kenny Rogers to get those prices. Mostly that's on The Hill, although I was getting 30 k HJ's at a massage joint in Dongdaemun, until it closed.

Needless to say, I have never been to an Anma and paid foreigner prices they demand. Might have to branch out, though, and try other places. That is why I am here for info, and to share stories. No interest in dropping half a mill or more on a room salon, and never have.

Will try to help others here, when possible.

SeoulSearching
11-19-18, 02:39
Organize a boycott to bring prices down? Hahaha why'all are Fucking delusional. In a country where probably 70% of the native male population visit prostitutes you think any one is going to give 2 shits if even the entire foreign population stopped using their services? We make like 1% of their market. Anyway.

If you're using backpage, or another site, and paying more than 100,000 you're fucked. Pun intended! Ripped off! Korea is s still the Mecca of reasonable priced Pussy if you know where to look.

3 options I will advice: 1 & 2 are okay. 3 is the best by far.

1) VIP Anma near Gangnam station. 120,000 one shot. Girls are usually Mongolian, Kazakhstan, Chinese, little older, not so hot, but do a good job.

2) Street perpendicular to hooker hill. Top of hill across from the foreign market. It's called Nymph. I forget the chicks name. Face is 90% plastic. Body is incredible! Can bargain a BBBJ down to 70,000. FS 90 - 100. She's excellent!I am interested in learning more about these kiss rooms. Do they allow you to jerk off in their presence? Kind of into that, actually. For 30 k? What is allowed in these kiss rooms?

Thanks.

RainMania
11-19-18, 03:32
Wow, they must be getting desperate. The only way I went into room salons was as a guest of someone. The places I've been to are unmarked and nobody could come off the street. Partially it was exclusivity, but also it was safety. There have been a number of government crackdowns.Korean guys have discovered SE Asia and are flooding there in record numbers. Why pay 500 k for one pop in Gangnam when 500 k will get you a whole weekend of pops in SE Asia?

Room salons and K-bars have even opened in Pattaya, Bangkok, Manila and Angeles (to name a few). And yes, many cater to korean clientele, stupidly.

JookMeUp
11-20-18, 13:55
Are there still any Japanese-style Earwax cleaning places in Seoul? They were the rage 3 years ago, or so, according to the news.

Do they offer any special services? What are typical prices, please? Hoping for HJ or FJ, but also like the intimacy aspect.

Thanks.There is a place on the third floor of the building on the right here http://dmaps.kr/deye4 between Euljiro1 ga and Jonggak stations. Check it out and report back.

Other places seem not to show what they are on the outside. You need to call a number on a poster or a flyer to find the exact location.

SeoulSearching
11-20-18, 15:49
There is a place on the third floor of the building on the right here http://dmaps.kr/deye4 between Euljiro1 ga and Jonggak stations. Check it out and report back.

Other places seem not to show what they are on the outside. You need to call a number on a poster or a flyer to find the exact location.Just dropped by tonight. Open, but no ladies working. Told me to come back in an hour. Cost on wall was 50 k for "basic service. " The door was kind of broken, and the place seemed like a bit of a dive. Will try again another day. There was just some guy behind the desk, inside.

Hate it when these dives have nobody working. Seems stupid. Almost like they have given up on making money, and don't make enough to employ anyone but a single old hag with missing teeth. From the look of the place, I don't have high hopes. Broken front door was a hint.

SeoulSearching
11-21-18, 00:28
On the subject of privacy.

I have been perusing CL ads. I completely avoid "agencies" and such. Why are these shops using Kakao and direct phone links for contacts? It seems stupid, and I refuse to contact them where there is an electronic paper trail. Kakao is nothing but penetrated action-tracking government spyware, and I don't even activate it on my phone. Dumped it a year ago. I use Telegram, but that's it. No Line. No What'sApp. For e-mail I only trust protonmail and tutanota. Incidentally, those services are blocked entirely by Kakao (except Protonmail has a work-around). If something happens to one of these ladies, the first thing the police do is try to gain access to phone and app information to track what's been going on, and who they have been interacting with. If you use Telegram (send a username sans phone number), Protonmail, or Tutanota, there is no way to be tracked.

On another note, maybe you've seen all of the security cameras popping-up around. I know a young male Korean who worked with the cyber police. They now have software that interacts between cameras and phone signals to pinpoint users that are in / frequent an area, which can be accessed if something goes wrong. Do you want a log of your movements around "The Hill," for example? You may have noticed a big government camera has been put up right in the middle of Hooker Hill. They have face-tracking software and can figure you out, if the need arises. I have decided to stop even entering that hill unless it's from the top back side stairs, and then I wear a ballcap or a mask, etc.

Call me paranoid.

LovinAsia
11-21-18, 22:05
On the subject of privacy.

I have been perusing CL ads. I completely avoid "agencies" and such. Why are these shops using Kakao and direct phone links for contacts? It seems stupid, and I refuse to contact them where there is an electronic paper trail. Kakao is nothing but penetrated action-tracking government spyware, and I don't even activate it on my phone. Dumped it a year ago. I use Telegram, but that's it. No Line. No What'sApp. For e-mail I only trust protonmail and tutanota. Incidentally, those services are blocked entirely by Kakao (except Protonmail has a work-around). If something happens to one of these ladies, the first thing the police do is try to gain access to phone and app information to track what's been going on, and who they have been interacting with. If you use Telegram (send a username sans phone number), Protonmail, or Tutanota, there is no way to be tracked.

On another note, maybe you've seen all of the security cameras popping-up around. I know a young male Korean who worked with the cyber police. They now have software that interacts between cameras and phone signals to pinpoint users that are in / frequent an area, which can be accessed if something goes wrong. Do you want a log of your movements around "The Hill," for example? You may have noticed a big government camera has been put up right in the middle of Hooker Hill. They have face-tracking software and can figure you out, if the need arises. I have decided to stop even entering that hill unless it's from the top back side stairs, and then I wear a ballcap or a mask, etc.

Call me paranoid.Yeah a tad bit paranoid.

OralSea
11-22-18, 01:34
Just dropped by tonight. Open, but no ladies working. Told me to come back in an hour. Cost on wall was 50 k for "basic service. " The door was kind of broken, and the place seemed like a bit of a dive. Will try again another day. There was just some guy behind the desk, inside.

Hate it when these dives have nobody working. Seems stupid. Almost like they have given up on making money, and don't make enough to employ anyone but a single old hag with missing teeth. From the look of the place, I don't have high hopes. Broken front door was a hint.I searched in Korean "ear cleaning room" in Naver map and got the adult content warning and in Daum map some places did pop up. All the places looked shady in shady areas, IMO = extras. I guess it's still sort of a thing.

YoungAndSprung
11-22-18, 12:21
First time report from an experience in Seoul.

I responded to a Craigslist ad in the massage section for a "Professional massage by Autumn Lee", a business advertised as an officetel run by a 24 year-old "professional massage" woman near Seollung station. We set it all up on Kakao, and I showed up. Her rates on CL were like 110,000 for an hour massage, on up based on the ad. I was able to deal her down to 40,000 for what turned out to be an hour long tug and rub, with extras, but I'll continue with the story.

She told me to meet her at her business address, which is Kangnam Daechi-dong 891-23 in her ad (she gave a map). Once outside her building, I was instructed what to do next.

The massage was a trip. It was like she completely lit up when we met. I felt like even if this had not been a job for her, we would have clicked. To describe her, she is kind of built a bit like "Bean" from Hooker Hill. She introduced herself as Gaeul. A bit short with fat butt potential going on (she said she's lost weight). She studied in Australia, and speaks excellent English. I have since found her on FB. At first she asked me what I was interested in. I told her a back massage, with a little work on the front *wink wink*. She got the idea, and after a fairly decent massage, she asked me to turn over. She went to work after a tease, and got me good and hard. She was impressed, and actually asked if she could taste it! I am a bit of a safety guy, but she looked clean *laugh* so I let her play. After she licked the lolly for about 10 seconds, she shocked the bejeezuss out of me by dropping her entire head over my ck completely balls deep. I was in shock, because I am easily 9 inches and not bragging. After an "oh my GAWD" from me, and a "warn me" from her, she then started up and down, taking me in completely and out again entirely. Up and down up and down, faster faster faster. I barely lasted 20 seconds and blew my load. I barely warned her in time, and the load shot out and hit he square in the nose and lips! She grimaced, but then began to laugh, with my spud dangling from her nose. I tipped her an extra 30,000, which was all I had.

I will most certainly be back!

SeoulSearching
11-23-18, 10:49
Well I tried the earwax cleaner posted earlier, and no love.

They open at 6 pm. I paid 50 k to the ajoshi at the door, and was ushered into a small, cold, dimly-lit room sporting an old heated mat. A cute early 20's girl showed up. She had tiny and cute bare feet, so I was a bit hopeful. She was wearing a fake cheap kimono. I told her she was cute, and she giggled and said, "Don't look at me."

She had me lay down with my head in her lap (cover between) and she proceeded to light some kind of straw on fire, and stick the non-burning end in my ear. It sizzled as it burned down. I asked her if this was going to hurt, and she said no, with a laugh. She spoke zero English. After burning a straw or two, and some light discussion with my poor Korean, she started digging lightly in my ear. Not much there to clean, she said. Next was the ear massage with lotion, which lasted all of 30 seconds. Meh. Turn over and do the other side.

Near the end, I asked ID there was any additional service, and she said no. I pressed, and told her I had cash. Just a giggle. She then asked something which made no sense, then laughed, told me to get up slowly and be careful with the stairs, and she whisked out the door.

Sad loss of 50 k.

OralSea
11-23-18, 12:13
First time report from an experience in Seoul.

I responded to a Craigslist ad in the massage section for a "Professional massage by Autumn Lee", a business advertised as an officetel run by a 24 year-old "professional massage" woman near Seollung station. We set it all up on Kakao, and I showed up. Her rates on CL were like 110,000 for an hour massage, on up based on the ad. I was able to deal her down to 40,000 for what turned out to be an hour long tug and rub, with extras, but I'll continue with the story.Didn't find anything advertised nearly like you described on CL Seoul. There is no massage section on CL Seoul for a while as far as I know, Am I missing something her guys?

OS.

YoungAndSprung
11-24-18, 00:51
Didn't find anything advertised nearly like you described on CL Seoul. There is no massage section on CL Seoul for a while as far as I know, Am I missing something her guys?

OS.I should have been more specific. The ads for massage providers last a few days or less. It only takes a few "prohibited" reports to wipe them out. One can imagine disgruntled women often report these ads. She will surely post again. Best to check often, and look again. CL also removes such ads, after the Backpage takedown.

There is a massage section under JOBS called salon / spa/ fitness. Her most recent post was under services/ Skilled trade. Sometimes providers post under services/ beauty.

She sometimes posts with the heading, "Certified Masseuse" and touts her time in Australia. Oh, she is certified, alright. But plan a few days out. She is busy. I added some pics ripped from her FB account. I would add her kakao, but not sure that is legal here?

YoungAndSprung
11-24-18, 09:31
Didn't find anything advertised nearly like you described on CL Seoul. There is no massage section on CL Seoul for a while as far as I know, Am I missing something her guys?

OS.Found her under Services / Skilled Trade. She sometimes is in Jobs / Spa and Fitness or Service / Beauty. She advertises as a Certified Masseuse.

https://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/sks/d/korean-masseuse-certified/6754189230.html

Jayf1970
11-24-18, 15:52
Hi all! I'm a senior member with fairly prolific hobbying adventures but I have toned down significantly. One thing I still do enjoy is a great erotic massage building up to a happy ending (nothing more). I looked thru the Seoul section and it looks pretty dead. Is anything available at all? I get such a good service in this area in the US from Korean providers and I've been disappointed in my pursuits in Seoul. Any help would be much appreciated and I will report back any findings.

SeoulSearching
11-25-18, 15:03
Hello, Thai Therapy!

Was wondering if anyone has any experience with this Thai massage lady? She used to have a few girls, and was a bit more outgoing with what she advertised. Craigslist started deleting ads that sounded sexual in nature, so she's toned down her ads quite a bit.

Anyone enjoyed her services?

Usually found on CL under Jobs / Salon / Spa / Fitness.

https://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/spa/d/this-is-thai-massage-and-have/6754232016.html

SeoulSearching
11-26-18, 06:12
Hi all! I'm a senior member with fairly prolific hobbying adventures but I have toned down significantly. One thing I still do enjoy is a great erotic massage building up to a happy ending (nothing more). I looked thru the Seoul section and it looks pretty dead. Is anything available at all? I get such a good service in this area in the US from Korean providers and I've been disappointed in my pursuits in Seoul. Any help would be much appreciated and I will report back any findings.If you don't mind a lady in her 40's, try the Hyewha rotary, near Hyewha station. There is a massage shop called Chanel on the 2nd floor. Have seen her several times.

SeoulSearching
11-26-18, 06:32
Another nice lady I highly recommend. She is not Korean. I believe she is Uzbek. She will travel, or she has her own officetell / home biz.

Nice massage. Around 100 k and up. Used to offer a 50 k target massage, but I see that is no longer on her site. I think she is maybe 30? Just a guess. Speaks English. Highly intelligent.

http://seoul-massage.kr/

SeoulSearching
11-26-18, 10:50
Hi all! I'm a senior member with fairly prolific hobbying adventures but I have toned down significantly. One thing I still do enjoy is a great erotic massage building up to a happy ending (nothing more). I looked thru the Seoul section and it looks pretty dead. Is anything available at all? I get such a good service in this area in the US from Korean providers and I've been disappointed in my pursuits in Seoul. Any help would be much appreciated and I will report back any findings.Found another place, for those who don't mind a woman in early 50's.

Green Massage, just outside of Dongdaemun subway station exit 4 and 5. Look for the barber pole, and stairs to the basement directly between the exits on the same side of the street (avoid the scary hag on the other side of the street, unless you want to lose your lunch).

As for Green.

I normally turn around and walk right out when I see someone this age, but she looked like a 10-year older version of a coworker I have lusted after for a long time. I tried to negotiate, and she wanted 100 k for a typical massage, probably lasting 30 min or more. I just wanted a quick / cheap HJ, and was able to bargain her down to 60 k, but that's too steep. I was shooting for 40 k, and I will only go 50 k if the woman is a lot younger and at least above a 6.

There used to be a former beauty queen (no kidding) who was in her 40's, and renting this massage place. It changed owners a year ago. I have noted that many rental agreements end in late October, and business owners move. Happens a few times per year like that. I only ducked back in there to see if owners had changed, again.

A trick I have learned, if you just want a quick HJ from a cheap / small barbers pole massage joint with no men working. Ask for "panty massage" after the drop their full massage price on you. Quote them 30 or 40 k for it, and when they say no, tell them it will just take 5 minutes. If they don't know what panty massage means (most can guess, after thinking about it) make a HJ motion with your hand. Sometimes they go for it, other times not. If you don't get your price, say you are sorry, thank them, and WALK. Sometimes they will change their mind. Doesn't hurt to tell them they are pretty, in Korean, and act like you are begging.

I was getting 40 k HJ's from the former beauty queen, until she moved to Jamsil area, and upped her prices significantly. Lost track of her since.

Niteluvr
11-26-18, 21:46
Another nice lady I highly recommend. She is not Korean. I believe she is Uzbek. She will travel, or she has her own officetell / home biz.

Nice massage. Around 100 k and up. Used to offer a 50 k target massage, but I see that is no longer on her site. I think she is maybe 30? Just a guess. Speaks English. Highly intelligent.

http://seoul-massage.kr/According to the massage license pictured on the website, it's a woman named Choi Na-ri and she's definitely Korean. Are you saying you saw someone else?

Niteluvr
11-26-18, 21:49
I should have been more specific. The ads for massage providers last a few days or less. It only takes a few "prohibited" reports to wipe them out. One can imagine disgruntled women often report these ads. She will surely post again. Best to check often, and look again. CL also removes such ads, after the Backpage takedown.

There is a massage section under JOBS called salon / spa/ fitness. Her most recent post was under services/ Skilled trade. Sometimes providers post under services/ beauty.

She sometimes posts with the heading, "Certified Masseuse" and touts her time in Australia. Oh, she is certified, alright. But plan a few days out. She is busy. I added some pics ripped from her FB account. I would add her kakao, but not sure that is legal here?Have you had a session with her? What exactly does she offer?

SeoulSearching
11-27-18, 03:23
According to the massage license pictured on the website, it's a woman named Choi Na-ri and she's definitely Korean. Are you saying you saw someone else?I know that's what her website says she is, but I could tell she's not local Korean. Not sure if she's Uzbek Korean, or Russian Korean, but she came to my hotel room, and the visual / audio cues were obvious to me. She's the one in the photos. I'm pretty sure she works 100% alone. Very nice lady. Highly recommended.

JohnnyAsia
12-01-18, 18:42
Yes, had one session with them. Good service.


Hello, Thai Therapy!

Was wondering if anyone has any experience with this Thai massage lady? She used to have a few girls, and was a bit more outgoing with what she advertised. Craigslist started deleting ads that sounded sexual in nature, so she's toned down her ads quite a bit.

Anyone enjoyed her services?

Usually found on CL under Jobs / Salon / Spa / Fitness.

https://seoul.craigslist.co.kr/spa/d/this-is-thai-massage-and-have/6754232016.html

Dudega
12-02-18, 01:09
Hi guys!

I want to try kiss bang and I read on a previous post someone telling we have to book it before how doing this? Also if I'll just walk-in, can I choose the girl with a picture or something or it will be a surprise?

SeoulSearching
12-06-18, 02:12
Yes, had one session with them. Good service.I am not a fan of the "plastic surgery chin" look, so I have avoided the Thai massage lady.

The only lady I get on with that has an excess of plastic surgery is the Itaewon Hill lady who is across from the yogurt place, which was once Polly's Kettle, and may also be Faust bar. That lady is pretty, and rocks a nice body with a great shape. She wears a lot of bling jewelry and nail jewelry. She begs for more money too much, but you can set an affordable price, if you stick to your guns. I have her name somewhere.

I also noticed that Nadia moved to Ambrosia, and has lost weight (not that she was ever overly heavy). She is quite hot, so long as she showers. I think she has to regret all of those cheap tats. Protection a must.

Niteluvr
12-06-18, 05:26
Can some of you Seoul mongers post some pics of the Hill? Curious what the bars and shit look like now.

LovinAsia
12-07-18, 13:03
I'm assuming fish and donut are CFS? Wondering because I know most koreans prefer not using condoms when mongering?

SeoulSearching
12-07-18, 13:53
Can some of you Seoul mongers post some pics of the Hill? Curious what the bars and shit look like now.Will get some soon. It looks ragged and half abandoned. Literally. Several shops boarded-up. Most at the top are trans bars, now. The bars smell so gross, I can't go in them. The porky mamasan that has been around for years lets her dogs [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on the floor in the bars she rents. A few now reek of rotten [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). Rank as hell. ABC bar near old Pollya, and a few others near there, were burned down a few years ago. Replaced with a hotel.

Will get some pics for you soon.

JohnnyAsia
12-10-18, 13:14
Last time I had a session with them was a while ago. Could choose from a few girls. The one I chose didn't have plastic surgery (at all).


I am not a fan of the "plastic surgery chin" look, so I have avoided the Thai massage lady.

The only lady I get on with that has an excess of plastic surgery is the Itaewon Hill lady who is across from the yogurt place, which was once Polly's Kettle, and may also be Faust bar. That lady is pretty, and rocks a nice body with a great shape. She wears a lot of bling jewelry and nail jewelry. She begs for more money too much, but you can set an affordable price, if you stick to your guns. I have her name somewhere.

I also noticed that Nadia moved to Ambrosia, and has lost weight (not that she was ever overly heavy). She is quite hot, so long as she showers. I think she has to regret all of those cheap tats. Protection a must.

Pilot85
12-16-18, 03:21
Was in Seoul a few weeks ago on biz. A slow Sunday night and not many places open. I normally hit Cecile or one of the other juicy bars but all closed. Walking the Hill and saw an interesting chick at Tiffany's stick her head out of the door so decided to step inside and see what's what. I'm not normally a Hill monger but not many other choices on a cold Sunday night. Anyway, the Mama had a gal name Sunny or SunHee. Not sure which spelling, doesn't matter. At first glance, a cute but kind of plain looking girl. I was wondering what she is doing in this business. Did not look the part at all. Not at all dressed for action. Out of curiosity bought a warm up and get to know her drink. She spoke excellent English and played a bit in the shop. Anyway, negotiated with Mama for 3 hour session at my hotel with the option to extend if I liked what I saw. Sunny is a safety girl (which is probably good for everyone), CFS, but she takes it to the limit, BBBJ, Pussy rub, very juicy lady BTW. This girl has been well trained by someone. Full on GFE and a great body. Almost like a dancers body. A great session, actually a fun girl to be with. Extended and had a very nice time. As I mentioned, the Hill is not my normal hunting ground but this time it worked out well. Mama will ask for insane fees for her time but negotiate and she will come down.

SeoulSearching
12-17-18, 16:16
Was in Seoul a few weeks ago on biz. A slow Sunday night and not many places open. I normally hit Cecile or one of the other juicy bars but all closed. Walking the Hill and saw an interesting chick at Tiffany's stick her head out of the door so decided to step inside and see what's what. I'm not normally a Hill monger but not many other choices on a cold Sunday night. Anyway, the Mama had a gal name Sunny or SunHee. Not sure which spelling, doesn't matter. At first glance, a cute but kind of plain looking girl. I was wondering what she is doing in this business. Did not look the part at all. Not at all dressed for action. Out of curiosity bought a warm up and get to know her drink. She spoke excellent English and played a bit in the shop. Anyway, negotiated with Mama for 3 hour session at my hotel with the option to extend if I liked what I saw. Sunny is a safety girl (which is probably good for everyone), CFS, but she takes it to the limit, BBBJ, Pussy rub, very juicy lady BTW. This girl has been well trained by someone. Full on GFE and a great body. Almost like a dancers body. A great session, actually a fun girl to be with. Extended and had a very nice time. As I mentioned, the Hill is not my normal hunting ground but this time it worked out well. Mama will ask for insane fees for her time but negotiate and she will come down.I was just going to post that she's back. She hast lost weight, but looks hot either way. She is good, and yes- negotiate. Three hours plus is a long time, but you should be able to get a BBBJ with most ladies here for as low as 70 k to 80 k. Sunny will get kinky, and is a lot of fun. Generally, a very good girl. Not dirty or disgusting, like many on "the hill" are. The mamasan is a very good-hearted person. She often hires Chinese to work there, or at her other bar a bit down the hill (I forget the name- just up from YES bar). Not Chinese, but Sue is a pro, currently working days at the lower bar. Nice shorter lady (different from the tall lady who sometimes hangs there). Sue is a strong negotiator. If you are into talking, Sue is great lady to buy drinks for, and enjoyable to have deep discussions with. That's all I'm going to say, other than that she's very much worth seeing.

In terms of more "normal" ladies that you could meet in real life, and never know what their jobs are- these two are safe. A lot of the ladies who work / have worked on the hill are pretty gross. These two are worth multiple visits, and actually decent.

By the way, avoid the bitchy Filipina who was at the old Cabin / Candy bar, and is now working VIP. There are currently two Filipinas there, I think. One is very kind, with curly black locks. The other (from Cabin or Candy Bar, past the Int'l Food Store?) is a hot body, but is psycho, and best avoided. For the life of me, I don't know why the staff there took her on? They may regret it, if she is still there. I see that the gov't had a sticker on the door of the old Candy / Cabin bar where she was working (which may or may not mean it was busted for either cheating people, a health violation, or etc). I'm just sad Sooyeon left VIP, this year. She was insanely hot, and an incredible BJ. Very much missed.

Aksg2018
12-23-18, 14:50
Searched CL website and found a message service, contacted on kakao.

Quoted 70 k for Thai massage for an outcall to hotel per hour.

Came on time given and punctual.

Lady was pretty good looking, she was Thai from Bangkok.

Massage service was good and put in good strength.

HJ extra for 50 k, with roaming.

Overall service was good.

SeoulSearching
12-25-18, 17:03
Searched CL website and found a message service, contacted on kakao.

Quoted 70 k for Thai massage for an outcall to hotel per hour.

Came on time given and punctual.

Lady was pretty good looking, she was Thai from Bangkok.

Massage service was good and put in good strength.

HJ extra for 50 k, with roaming.

Overall service was good.You had to pay a total of 120 k for a handjob, then?

Seriously?

Save your money. Give Leah a try at OneDaySpa. Saw she had another ad up on CL today, but it already got deleted. She's now offering prostate massage. Actually said it in her ad. I don't think you can be any more direct than that. You will leave happy and she offers an express massage for something like 70 k.

http://seoul-massage.kr/

https://www.facebook.com/spainseoul/

LeahChoi
12-27-18, 04:15
You had to pay a total of 120 k for a handjob, then?

Seriously?

Save your money. Give Leah a try at OneDaySpa. Saw she had another ad up on CL today, but it already got deleted. She's now offering prostate massage. Actually said it in her ad. I don't think you can be any more direct than that. You will leave happy and she offers an express massage for something like 70 k.

http://seoul-massage.kr/

https://www.facebook.com/spainseoul/I really appreciate, you make my day! Best wishes and Happy New Year.

SeoulSearching
12-28-18, 16:57
I really appreciate, you make my day! Best wishes and Happy New Year.Few people are professionals offering the utmost care, as do you.

I do hope you took it as a compliment. Happy massaging!

Christian G
12-28-18, 18:01
In less than a month I'll be in Seoul for a first time with a friend. We are both caucasian and not speak korean at all.
We will be there for sightseeing but of course we would like to the put our flag on Seoul. Looking for RLDs, no more than 100k won for BBBJ / CFS.

RTFF and find out Miari (Gireum Station exit10), Cheon-ho (Cheonho station exit3) and Hooker Hill (Itaewon exit3) are our best bet. Maybe Miari is the best of 3?
Question for the expert like RainMania, Optional, Lovinasia and others: what is the best time to visit these RLDs? We don't like to stay out till late. 6pm /7pm /8pm /9pm are a good time to visit?

Thanks in advance.

RainMania
12-29-18, 00:00
In less than a month I'll be in Seoul for a first time with a friend. We are both caucasian and not speak korean at all.
We will be there for sightseeing but of course we would like to the put our flag on Seoul. Looking for RLDs, no more than 100k won for BBBJ / CFS.

RTFF and find out Miari (Gireum Station exit10), Cheon-ho (Cheonho station exit3) and Hooker Hill (Itaewon exit3) are our best bet. Maybe Miari is the best of 3?
Question for the expert like RainMania, Optional, Lovinasia and others: what is the best time to visit these RLDs? We don't like to stay out till late. 6pm /7pm /8pm /9pm are a good time to visit?

Thanks in advance.Cheonho will have the best looking women, but as non-Asians you'll be relegated to be and see row providers. Still good looking women there though. Very few to no English speakers, but the mamasans might know some rudimentary English.

Miari is probably where you'the get the best service. The women there would be slightly older than those at Cheonho. Don't be afraid to be picky here. The girls and mamasans are a lot more foreigner friendly than Cheonho, and the mamasans might be a bit handsy in getting you into their establishment. It's all fun and games though, so take it all with a smile and a pinch of salt. Like Cheonho the girls might not speak english, a few of the mamasans might know some English.

As you already know, hooker hill has the best English speakers. Probably the oldest women out of the theee RLDs, and a mixture of girls at extreme ends of the looks scale. Service there can be on par with the other two, but you also run the chance of getting scammed and getting [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor service. Make sure you let them know everything you want, and confirm one more time before handing the money over.

For the first 2, 6 pm is usually when the night shift girls arrive. They are fully ready by 7-8 pm, so I'the try to get there for 8-9 pm. For hooker hill, the girls generally get very busy between 9 pm and 1 am.

Good luck! And always remember YMMV.

Christian G
12-29-18, 12:55
RainMania, thank you very much for your detailed and informative answer. Very appreciated!

Lion55
12-31-18, 00:38
Just to add that if you decide on Hooker Hill it is best to go in knowing which provider you want. I recommend either Kay (she works weekends at Happy Days; near GFE service) or Bean (works at Avant Garde). Both are on the older side but are in good shape and offer good service. Both will run you 100 K for an hour. For Kay this will indeed mean a full hour. For Bean it may mean just one pop. As always YMMV.

Tolerate
12-31-18, 05:34
First time report from an experience in Seoul.

I responded to a Craigslist ad in the massage section for a "Professional massage by Autumn Lee", a business advertised as an officetel run by a 24 year-old "professional massage" woman near Seollung station. We set it all up on Kakao, and I showed up. Her rates on CL were like 110,000 for an hour massage, on up based on the ad. I was able to deal her down to 40,000 for what turned out to be an hour long tug and rub, with extras, but I'll continue with the story.

She told me to meet her at her business address, which is Kangnam Daechi-dong 891-23 in her ad (she gave a map). Once outside her building, I was instructed what to do next.

The massage was a trip. It was like she completely lit up when we met. I felt like even if this had not been a job for her, we would have clicked. To describe her, she is kind of built a bit like "Bean" from Hooker Hill. She introduced herself as Gaeul. A bit short with fat butt potential going on (she said she's lost weight). She studied in Australia, and speaks excellent English.Hey can you share her kakao or her ad online with us?

Christian G
12-31-18, 09:50
Just to add that if you decide on Hooker Hill it is best to go in knowing which provider you want. I recommend either Kay (she works weekends at Happy Days; near GFE service) or Bean (works at Avant Garde). Both are on the older side but are in good shape and offer good service. Both will run you 100 K for an hour. For Kay this will indeed mean a full hour. For Bean it may mean just one pop. As always YMMV.Thank you for the girls name and bars name, but as first time in Seoul I don't know how much will be easy to locate the bars and girls. From what I read on this thread Miari and Cheon-ho (row B and C) seem more suitable for me, anyway Thanks again.

Mcskorob
01-01-19, 15:46
I am a Korean who was brought up in Australia, I'm going for a visit but I'm not keen to pay 250,000 won. Anyone got the nside scoppy or where I can get good service for cheap?

I'm mainly after incall hence I'm interested in officetels.

Please and thank you.

Mcskorob
01-02-19, 00:19
I'm a Korean by blood and am finally going to Korea in a few days. I really want to enjoy my time but I'm not willing tk pay 250,000 won. I hear that officetel was the new thing. Also I am looking for incall, can anyone help me out?

Lion55
01-02-19, 01:00
Thank you for the girls name and bars name, but as first time in Seoul I don't know how much will be easy to locate the bars and girls. From what I read on this thread Miari and Cheon-ho (row B and C) seem more suitable for me, anyway Thanks again.By all means give Miari and / or Cheon-ho a try. But for the record both Happy Days and Avant Garde on Hooker Hill are super easy to find.

JookMeUp
01-05-19, 10:35
Save your money. Give Leah a try at OneDaySpa. Saw she had another ad up on CL today, but it already got deleted. She's now offering prostate massage. Actually said it in her ad. I don't think you can be any more direct than that. You will leave happy and she offers an express massage for something like 70 k.

http://seoul-massage.kr/

https://www.facebook.com/spainseoul/What SeoulSearching said. Leah is a great masseuse, and a beautiful lady. Her he is really nice, slow and skillful, not mechanical, like a milking machine.

Nother Monger
01-06-19, 21:17
I'm a Korean by blood and am finally going to Korea in a few days. I really want to enjoy my time but I'm not willing tk pay 250,000 won. I hear that officetel was the new thing. Also I am looking for incall, can anyone help me out?If you go back, there's a site mentioned in this thread about where to find Officetels, and they aren't new. They've been around for a while now. However, if you don't speak Korean, it will be hard, if not impossible to book. Even if you speak Korean, but not fluently, they may ask if you are Korean and deny you, or charge extra. Finally, semi recently (last 2 years or so) some bookers have gotten selective about taking calls / appointments from people they don't know. I know some bookers won't even answer the phone or reply to messages from numbers they don't recognize.

Also keep in mind that some places use fake pictures so the girl you get might not exactly match up to the girl in the profile.

Benja85
01-08-19, 11:51
I'm a Korean by blood and am finally going to Korea in a few days. I really want to enjoy my time but I'm not willing tk pay 250,000 won. I hear that officetel was the new thing. Also I am looking for incall, can anyone help me out?Officitel or OPs in Korea due require the client to speak some Korean so as to book a reservation. The system these days are as follows:

1. You book an appointment with the manager via phone.

2. Arrive at the location, call the manager again to get the floor and room number. Some places now have locked door right outside the elevator that requires a key code.

3. Discreetly knock on the door and get in.

4. Shower, do the deed, pay and leave.

As you can imagine you need to speak Korean to book the girl, receive directions and get the key code, but beyond that you really don't have to speak unless you want to.

I do agree that booking a new place is a little more difficult since most places will ask if you visited other establishment and run your number by the other establishments to check that your not a cop but Seoul and Gangnam in particular is much more relaxed than other parts of Korea. Another way to get your foot into the door is if someone vouches for you and if you have a presence on the Korean op forms.

I can't imagine the establishment overcharging because you don't speak Korean and I hope race wouldn't be an issue but I can't say for certain.

OPs are definitely more complex to get into but definitely not as difficult as the establishments in Japan.

My advice to Korean or Asian non native speakers is to find a native speaker who can make the reservation for you or text through google translate.

On a side note Anmas are more might be better for someone like you as they are more accepting of walkins and they provide a more hardcore style of service. OPs on the other hand have younger girls and you can pick your victims.

Hope this help brothers. 1.

Benja85
01-08-19, 11:57
I'm a Korean by blood and am finally going to Korea in a few days. I really want to enjoy my time but I'm not willing tk pay 250,000 won. I hear that officetel was the new thing. Also I am looking for incall, can anyone help me out?
If you go back, there's a site mentioned in this thread about where to find Officetels, and they aren't new. They've been around for a while now. However, if you don't speak Korean, it will be hard, if not impossible to book. Even if you speak Korean, but not fluently, they may ask if you are Korean and deny you, or charge extra. Finally, semi recently (last 2 years or so) some bookers have gotten selective about taking calls / appointments from people they don't know. I know some bookers won't even answer the phone or reply to messages from numbers they don't recognize.

Also keep in mind that some places use fake pictures so the girl you get might not exactly match up to the girl in the profile.I forgot to attach some good Korean sights.

Bamwar30.com is the most comprehensive but a little difficult to navigate.

opopgirl02.com is one of many sights that advertises different establishments.

Nother Monger
01-09-19, 00:12
Officitel or OPs in Korea due require the client to speak some Korean so as to book a reservation. The system these days are as follows:

1. You book an appointment with the manager via phone.

2. Arrive at the location, call the manager again to get the floor and room number. Some places now have locked door right outside the elevator that requires a key code.

3. Discreetly knock on the door and get in.

4. Shower, do the deed, pay and leave.

As you can imagine you need to speak Korean to book the girl, receive directions and get the key code, but beyond that you really don't have to speak unless you want to..I am Korean by birth, but raised outside of Korea so my Korean is not perfect and I've been told by 1 establishment that they would charge extra. Granted, it was just 1 place, but it can happen.

Race is an issue, especially if you are non-Asian. I've talked to plenty of bookers and girls and a lot of them straight up tell me they will refuse black or Caucasians. Russian OPs tend to be a bit more liberal about race, however some are still hard to get into without a referral or being established.

Booking has gotten harder, and yes, there are places in Gangnam that will accept anyone, but I know of a few OPs that will not take on new customers. I've got the contact info for a few girls.

That I've seen at other places that moved to a new OP to which I could not get in. In the end, the girl had to tell their booker so I could make an appointment.

SeoulSearching
01-11-19, 10:43
I have several bars from Hooker Hill in Itaewon, Seoul, in photos here. I have others, and will try to attach them after this page. Taken Jan 2019. What a mess.

SeoulSearching
01-11-19, 10:48
Page 2 of Hooker Hill pics in Itaewon. Sorry, kind of random.

Garthie1
01-12-19, 05:52
I have several bars from Hooker Hill in Itaewon, Seoul, in photos here. I have others, and will try to attach them after this page. Taken Jan 2019. What a mess.Looks like Avant Garde is open and running. Wonder if Bean's big ass was there at that early hour?

As long as she stays on the Hill, all is not lost. I first met her in 2006 and the day she (and Kay) retires will be the day I silently weep in my beer.

I see you have pics of Texas on the main strip. Soo-ae was working there a year ago when I went.

Kelly from the original Texas is the owner (or manager), wonder if she's working these days?

Working from around 2010 (I first met her the night Korea played Greece in the World Cup), she'd retired a few years back and was one of my ATF.

Lion55
01-12-19, 14:30
Looks like Avant Garde is open and running. Wonder if Bean's big ass was there at that early hour?

As long as she stays on the Hill, all is not lost. I first met her in 2006 and the day she (and Kay) retires will be the day I silently weep in my beer.

I see you have pics of Texas on the main strip. Soo-ae was working there a year ago when I went.

Kelly from the original Texas is the owner (or manager), wonder if she's working these days?

Working from around 2010 (I first met her the night Korea played Greece in the World Cup), she'd retired a few years back and was one of my ATF.Kay told me recently that she is moving from Happy Days to Avant Garde (I wonder whether she will do duos with Bean) .

There was a report a few weeks ago that indicated Kelly is still working. All three of them are oldies but goodies.

Vocal14
01-13-19, 12:22
Page 2 of Hooker Hill pics in Itaewon. Sorry, kind of random.Thank you very much for posting these photos. It does not look promising. I was thinking of paying a visit from Tokyo, but looking at your photos I question this now.

KgirlPower
01-15-19, 22:19
Checked out her site. Has like dozen services. But no info on her rate, how long the session is, or what's included in her session. Do you get all dozen of her services during your appointment? Can you give some more info on her rate, how long her session is, and what she offers? Even the express service that you state for 70 k, how long is that and hows it different from her normal session? I know I can call her but figure all the questioining will put her off and she might think I'm LE or something.

Thanks.


You had to pay a total of 120 k for a handjob, then?

Seriously?

Save your money. Give Leah a try at OneDaySpa. Saw she had another ad up on CL today, but it already got deleted. She's now offering prostate massage. Actually said it in her ad. I don't think you can be any more direct than that. You will leave happy and she offers an express massage for something like 70 k.

http://seoul-massage.kr/

https://www.facebook.com/spainseoul/

LeahChoi
01-17-19, 14:38
Checked out her site. Has like dozen services. But no info on her rate, how long the session is, or what's included in her session. Do you get all dozen of her services during your appointment? Can you give some more info on her rate, how long her session is, and what she offers? Even the express service that you state for 70 k, how long is that and hows it different from her normal session? I know I can call her but figure all the questioining will put her off and she might think I'm LE or something.

Thanks.Hello!

The rate for ISG members is 80,000/60 mins, full body oil massage with options, PM me for details. Thank you.

P.S. There was a fire in Cheonho RLD, seems it doesn't operating anymore because the whole area is under construction right now. I live just nearby.

SeoulSearching
01-18-19, 08:50
Looks like Avant Garde is open and running. Wonder if Bean's big ass was there at that early hour?

As long as she stays on the Hill, all is not lost. I first met her in 2006 and the day she (and Kay) retires will be the day I silently weep in my beer.

I see you have pics of Texas on the main strip. Soo-ae was working there a year ago when I went.

Kelly from the original Texas is the owner (or manager), wonder if she's working these days?

Working from around 2010 (I first met her the night Korea played Greece in the World Cup), she'd retired a few years back and was one of my ATF.I'm trying to remember her name. Is Kelly the lady who is maybe late 40's and speaks English somewhat well? She was in the other Texas on 'the hill' before going to this 2nd Texas, across from the lower International Food Store? If so, she was there, and the International Food Store Texas, last month. She seemed to be having trouble keeping girls working long-term. Easy come, easy go. Once they make the money they want for whatever, they're gone in short order. She's a nice lady, so it's nothing negative about her. I may have a photo of her, but I don't post pics of people without permission.

I am curious what's so great about Bean? Crazy good BJ? Any description? She's still around in the evenings. I know who she is.

Things are generally pretty downtrodden in Itaewon, on the Hill. I remember a government sign went up stating that the area is slated for demolition and apartments within 7 years. I want to say that was something like 5 years ago. I'm sure the owners are just holding out for a good price. By the way, there was a blonde foreign lady working in Forest Queen (the place that smells like cat [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109)). She wasn't terribly attractive, to me. Might have been part Russian. I didn't glance long enough.

I really avoid the place. In all seriousness, the place has become such a money-sucking dump that I'd rather save money and spend in on livejasmine.

RainMania
01-19-19, 01:22
I am curious what's so great about Bean? Crazy good BJ? Any description? She's still around in the evenings. I know who she is.
Bean has a remarkable body for a Korean woman. She wouldn't look out of place in a hip hop video (perky tits, flat abs, small hip, HUGE ASS), all packaged around 5 ft tall.

If she's in the mood, she does give a fantastic BJ (on the hill, only Kaye beats her ability-wise in this IMO). Wet, sloppy, fast or slow, with one or both hands and your shaft doesn't leave her mouth the whole time. BUT only if she's in the mood. That's my one criticism of her, she has her 'on' days and 'off' days, which I would say occur in almost equal frequency LOL.

She knows how to fuck too, ACG and RCG with her dont disappoint. But again, she has to be in the mood for you to get the full package. One thing Ill complement her for though, she can take a good pounding even on her off day. Never once has she asked me when Ill cum. Just takes it all like a champ.

SeoulSex
01-19-19, 07:18
What's the rate like at Hooker Hill?

I used to get 80000/ HR at Hyugetels 2 years ago but they're all gone now.

Christian G
01-19-19, 13:52
There was a fire in Cheonho RLD, seems it doesn't operating anymore because the whole area is under construction right now. I live just nearby.Do you talking about the fire which occurred about a month ago?

http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3057286

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20181223000102

https://newsbeezer.com/koreaeng/come-out-soon-cheonho-dong-owner-who-did-not-want-to-save-the-women-kookmin-ilbo/

RainMania
01-20-19, 04:03
What's the rate like at Hooker Hill?

I used to get 80000/ HR at Hyugetels 2 years ago but they're all gone now.The hill is still 80-100 k for a pop depending on the time of day and your negotiation skills, add another 50-60% for a second pop. Some guys have gotten 70 k, but the last time I paid that was circa 2015.

LeahChoi
01-20-19, 07:26
Do you talking about the fire which occurred about a month ago?

http://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3057286

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20181223000102

https://newsbeezer.com/koreaeng/come-out-soon-cheonho-dong-owner-who-did-not-want-to-save-the-women-kookmin-ilbo/Correct, that building was built more than 50 years ago.

Lion55
01-20-19, 09:56
Bean has a remarkable body for a Korean woman. She wouldn't look out of place in a hip hop video (perky tits, flat abs, small hip, HUGE ASS), all packaged around 5 ft tall.

If she's in the mood, she does give a fantastic BJ (on the hill, only Kaye beats her ability-wise in this IMO). Wet, sloppy, fast or slow, with one or both hands and your shaft doesn't leave her mouth the whole time. BUT only if she's in the mood. That's my one criticism of her, she has her 'on' days and 'off' days, which I would say occur in almost equal frequency LOL.

She knows how to fuck too, ACG and RCG with her dont disappoint. But again, she has to be in the mood for you to get the full package. One thing Ill complement her for though, she can take a good pounding even on her off day. Never once has she asked me when Ill cum. Just takes it all like a champ.I agree about Bean being YMMV. First time I saw her the service was amazing. Second time was a complete bust. BTW, Kay and Cherry have both moved to Avant Garde. Kay told me that Happy Days has a new owner but it wasn't even open when I went by last night.

SeoulSearching
01-20-19, 16:53
Thanks for the info on Bean. I'm still trying to figure out who Kay is.

I have been spoiled on The Hill in the past, and nothing there now is of the interest it once was. All of the ones I really liked have long, long gone.

Let's see. I'll bring some of you older guys down memory lane, now:

Sooyeon left VIP this past Fall. Got a good "normal" job, I heard. Glad for her, but sad for me. Great BJ. That was pretty recent.

Going way, way back to maybe 2003, there was this nutty woman who was insanely religious, borderline insane schitzo, and would recite church hymns and Bible verses while jerking you off. She slowly grew worse, and worse. Would sit and read her Bible between customers. That was difficult to digest.

Yumi used to work at Tiger, and was hot / fun / hilarious. She used to screw guys like she was on a merry-go-round, at Tiger. She could hardly stop laughing as she climbed on one guy after another, and money was rolling-in. Bat-shit crazy and moody, though. She was becoming increasingly religious, and appeared to be having mood swings about what she was doing conflicting with her occupation. Bi-polar, I swear, and I wonder whatever happened to her. Then again, maybe I don't want to know.

For years, there was a Taiwanese / Chinese lady who would leave and come back, named CeCe. She was SO hot in early 2000's. She dumped a bunch of cash into "Lucky Strike" bar, and lost her ass. She was living in a really nice apartment along the Han River, owned by some rich guy who would fly her to wherever he was, for a romp. Or just do it when he needed to stay in Seoul at his house (which she lived in rent-free). She was friends with Annie, and they worked together, for a while.

All-time favorite was probably Annie from VIP, ABC, and finally Ambrosia. She used to give the best BJ in history. Nobody could match her rhythm. She used to blow me, then lay on the floor and let me JO in her mouth while she looked me in the eye. She married some Canadian guy. I almost ended up living with her, and if my apartment hadn't been such a craphole at the time, I would have.

Giu of VIP and Tiger was a royal, moody, but sexy, in her younger days. She got way too much plastic surgery done. She was better natural.

Kelly of Tiger and Ambrosia was a fun and friendly Korean lady who gave a great BJ, practically identified as black, and was freaking CRAZY about pets. She married a nice black guy in the army, and lives stateside these past 10 years with at least 2 kids.

Janie used to work at Nymph, among a few other places. She left the biz a few years ago, and works hair / nails. We meet up once and a few years, for old times. Nice lady.

GoEun used to work at Cheers, until maybe a year or two ago. Cheers is pretty much abandoned, now. I miss her a lot. She taught English, and gave handjobs at Cheers, at night. She was fun. Wish I hadn't lost touch.

Youngsun was from Tiger circa 2002, and was one of the damned hottest and sexiest women I knew there. She disappeared about that time. I think she was marrying someone from the UK. That girl pulled 7 million a week, easy, back in the day.

Well, I'm randomly remembering people I've spent a lot of money on, over the years, on The Hill. I actually have folders of photos of these people, but they're all a secret, and I'll probably delete them, soon. Life must go on.

LeahChoi
01-21-19, 02:11
Thanks for the info on Bean. I'm still trying to figure out who Kay is.

I have been spoiled on The Hill in the past, and nothing there now is of the interest it once was. All of the ones I really liked have long, long gone.

Let's see. I'll bring some of you older guys down memory lane, now:

Sooyeon left VIP this past Fall. Got a good "normal" job, I heard. Glad for her, but sad for me. Great BJ. That was pretty recent.

Going way, way back to maybe 2003, there was this nutty woman who was insanely religious, borderline insane schitzo, and would recite church hymns and Bible verses while jerking you off. She slowly grew worse, and worse. Would sit and read her Bible between customers. That was difficult to digest.

Yumi used to work at Tiger, and was hot / fun / hilarious. She used to screw guys like she was on a merry-go-round, at Tiger. She could hardly stop laughing as she climbed on one guy after another, and money was rolling-in. Bat-shit crazy and moody, though. She was becoming increasingly religious, and appeared to be having mood swings about what she was doing conflicting with her occupation. Bi-polar, I swear, and I wonder whatever happened to her. Then again, maybe I don't want to know..Very impressive. Sometimes I miss those old days, too.

RainMania
01-21-19, 07:57
Youngsun was from Tiger circa 2002, and was one of the damned hottest and sexiest women I knew there. She disappeared about that time. I think she was marrying someone from the UK. That girl pulled 7 million a week, easy, back in the day.

Well, I'm randomly remembering people I've spent a lot of money on, over the years, on The Hill. I actually have folders of photos of these people, but they're all a secret, and I'll probably delete them, soon. Life must go on.Sadly those days are long gone. I wonder how many of our MR princesses charging 300-500 k per pop can claim to make 7 mil a month. Let alone a week.

I'm willing to bet the current set of providers on the hill still make a decent living, providing they give their customers a reason to keep coming back (reasonable rates, good attitude etc).

Last time I spoke to a provider about earnings was at Miari around 2015. They charge 80-90 k there, of which she keeps half, the rest goes to rent etc and she was still taking home 5 mil a month, but she was one of the better looking and better performing ones in that house.

SeoulSex
01-21-19, 11:45
The hill is still 80-100 k for a pop depending on the time of day and your negotiation skills, add another 50-60% for a second pop. Some guys have gotten 70 k, but the last time I paid that was circa 2015.I saw Kaye at Happy Days and offered 150 k for 2 pops at 40 minutes, which I thought was fair considering Cheonho is 80 k for 20 minutes. She declined, I walked away and went to a massage place in Sillim (Bugsy) which charged 150 k for 2 pops with mid-20 girls and an hour long massage in between.

I went to the portal site (adal) and made the reservation. When I arrived, I picked the "the course", paid, showered, and they led me through a secret door locked electronically into a nice hotel style lobby and room. 20 min session with first girl, then hour massage with masseuse who fondled me, then the last 20 min session with another girl- both gorgeous. I made the right decision to walk away.

I look Korean and practiced my Korean enough that I can pass for one if I speak in short sentences. I don't think I would have gotten in if that wasn't the case.

Niteluvr
01-21-19, 21:07
I have several bars from Hooker Hill in Itaewon, Seoul, in photos here. I have others, and will try to attach them after this page. Taken Jan 2019. What a mess.Thanks for posting those pics. Brings back memories. Grand Ole Opry has been around since the '70's and is still there? Why are Debut and Texas boarded up?

Niteluvr
01-21-19, 21:23
Thanks for the info on Bean. I'm still trying to figure out who Kay is.

I have been spoiled on The Hill in the past, and nothing there now is of the interest it once was. All of the ones I really liked have long, long gone.

Let's see. I'll bring some of you older guys down memory lane, now:

Sooyeon left VIP this past Fall. Got a good "normal" job, I heard. Glad for her, but sad for me. Great BJ. That was pretty recent.

Going way, way back to maybe 2003, there was this nutty woman who was insanely religious, borderline insane schitzo, and would recite church hymns and Bible verses while jerking you off. She slowly grew worse, and worse. Would sit and read her Bible between customers. That was difficult to digest.

Yumi used to work at Tiger, and was hot / fun / hilarious. She used to screw guys like she was on a merry-go-round, at Tiger. She could hardly stop laughing as she climbed on one guy after another, and money was rolling-in. Bat-shit crazy and moody, though. She was becoming increasingly religious, and appeared to be having mood swings about what she was doing conflicting with her occupation. Bi-polar, I swear, and I wonder whatever happened to her. Then again, maybe I don't want to know.

For years, there was a Taiwanese / Chinese lady who would leave and come back, named CeCe. She was SO hot in early 2000's. She dumped a bunch of cash into "Lucky Strike" bar, and lost her ass. She was living in a really nice apartment along the Han River, owned by some rich guy who would fly her to wherever he was, for a romp. Or just do it when he needed to stay in Seoul at his house (which she lived in rent-free). She was friends with Annie, and they worked together, for a while.

All-time favorite was probably Annie from VIP, ABC, and finally Ambrosia. She used to give the best BJ in history. Nobody could match her rhythm. She used to blow me, then lay on the floor and let me JO in her mouth while she looked me in the eye. She married some Canadian guy. I almost ended up living with her, and if my apartment hadn't been such a craphole at the time, I would have.

Giu of VIP and Tiger was a royal, moody, but sexy, in her younger days. She got way too much plastic surgery done. She was better natural.

Kelly of Tiger and Ambrosia was a fun and friendly Korean lady who gave a great BJ, practically identified as black, and was freaking CRAZY about pets. She married a nice black guy in the army, and lives stateside these past 10 years with at least 2 kids.

Janie used to work at Nymph, among a few other places. She left the biz a few years ago, and works hair / nails. We meet up once and a few years, for old times. Nice lady.

GoEun used to work at Cheers, until maybe a year or two ago. Cheers is pretty much abandoned, now. I miss her a lot. She taught English, and gave handjobs at Cheers, at night. She was fun. Wish I hadn't lost touch.

Youngsun was from Tiger circa 2002, and was one of the damned hottest and sexiest women I knew there. She disappeared about that time. I think she was marrying someone from the UK. That girl pulled 7 million a week, easy, back in the day.

Well, I'm randomly remembering people I've spent a lot of money on, over the years, on The Hill. I actually have folders of photos of these people, but they're all a secret, and I'll probably delete them, soon. Life must go on.Do you remember the Korean woman who ran Moulin Rouge in the early 200's? Per the pictures, it's CC Bar now. Used to go there and get blowjobs from her and she had a couple of tasteful nude paintings of herself on the wall. One evening I went in, she was tending the bar and there was an old German guy sitting at the bar chatting with her. I sat a few stools away and said to her, "I'm thinking of getting another blowjob from you tonight, OK?" he face turned red and she was making facial expressions to tell me to shut up. Learned later that she was dating the German dude and they were planning to get married. Also used to pay $120 K apiece for 3 of her girls and have a fuck fest on top of the pool table. Mamasan would lock the door, cover the pool table with a cloth and we'd go crazy. She liked to watch and would grin from ear to ear. I really miss that place the most.

SeoulSearching
01-22-19, 06:29
Do you remember the Korean woman who ran Moulin Rouge in the early 200's? Per the pictures, it's CC Bar now. Used to go there and get blowjobs from her and she had a couple of tasteful nude paintings of herself on the wall. One evening I went in, she was tending the bar and there was an old German guy sitting at the bar chatting with her. I sat a few stools away and said to her, "I'm thinking of getting another blowjob from you tonight, OK?" he face turned red and she was making facial expressions to tell me to shut up. Learned later that she was dating the German dude and they were planning to get married. Also used to pay $120 K apiece for 3 of her girls and have a fuck fest on top of the pool table. Mamasan would lock the door, cover the pool table with a cloth and we'd go crazy. She liked to watch and would grin from ear to ear. I really miss that place the most.Yup, I remember her!

And at least two of those girls still work in Itaewon. She rents Pandora, and only works when she feels like it. I also know what area she lives in, because I used to bump into her on the street, at night, when I lived around there (nowhere near Itaewon). I forget her name, off hand. She started working at Moulin Rouge for that lady when she was maybe 20. Gosh, she would be almost 34 or 35, now. Crazy sloppy BJ. Tall girl. Big, but not fat. Huge knockers.

The other girl who got her start there was Nayong, who now runs the Ambrosia bar. I remember when she was young, too. Last time I saw her at Ambrosia, she looked half-dead, and I thought she looked pretty ill, and a few fries short of a Happy Meal.

As per the former owner of the woman from Moulin Rouge- yeah, I think Germany is where she ended up. I do remember that guy, or at least her talking about him. He knew what she was doing.

We used to have a work deal going, where I would provide her some services from my business, and she would give me sex. Those were the days! Even though she was a bit older, she was still hot. They had that back room in Moulin Rouge that you'd have to take your shoes off and crawl into. Once I went there, and there was a "new girl" who was fresh out of high school, on her first night. Our owner friend asked me if I'd take her back there and teach her how to give a HJ. I paid 40,000 for that. I don't think the girl had ever touched a willie, before. Good times.

Remember those rows and rows of LP records, on the wall? There were rows of them downstairs in Cabin, also. I always wondered what happened to all of those? I'm sure they got thrown out. All kinds of originals in there, from The Beatles. , Kiss, etc. Decades worth of collectables that were probably thrown out.

The ajumma who managed Cheers had a pair of $1,000 Klipsch speakers hanging on the wall, and some ajoshi suckered her into trading them in on some cheap plastic Chinese crap. I was mad when I found that out. Cheers was great, too- they actually had hot women working there, until they closed down last year. Problem was, they kept opening later, and later. Pretty soon it didn't open until well after midnight. Couldn't make those hours.

RainMania
01-23-19, 02:36
I saw Kaye at Happy Days and offered 150 k for 2 pops at 40 minutes, which I thought was fair considering Cheonho is 80 k for 20 minutes. She declined, I walked away and went to a massage place in Sillim (Bugsy) which charged 150 k for 2 pops with mid-20 girls and an hour long massage in between.

I went to the portal site (adal) and made the reservation. When I arrived, I picked the "the course", paid, showered, and they led me through a secret door locked electronically into a nice hotel style lobby and room. 20 min session with first girl, then hour massage with masseuse who fondled me, then the last 20 min session with another girl- both gorgeous. I made the right decision to walk away.

I look Korean and practiced my Korean enough that I can pass for one if I speak in short sentences. I don't think I would have gotten in if that wasn't the case.It just wasn't your night with Kaye that night. Happens every once in a while. 150 k is very reasonable for 2 pops on the hill (assuming you weren't asking for anything else like BBFS or anal).

Good on you for having and using other options.

Lion55
01-23-19, 14:01
It just wasn't your night with Kaye that night. Happens every once in a while. 150 k is very reasonable for 2 pops on the hill (assuming you weren't asking for anything else like BBFS or anal).
.Indeed. Could be she already had several clients lined up for the evening.

Patagonia78
01-24-19, 03:33
Thanks Chris for your reviews!

I am in Seoul just for one evening with limited time and hoping for recommendations for either agencies or high quality independents. Happy to pay for a high quality 20's girl with great service! I am Caucasian and speak a very small amount of Korean.

Chris you had suggested "International Tour Guide Club" do the girls there do normal services BBBJ, DFK, etc?

Thanks so much!

Patagonia78
01-24-19, 05:02
Hey,

I'm going to be in Seoul in a few weeks and, seeing as Sarah seems to have disappeared, I was looking through the listings on massage republic. Three caught my eye: Lilly Jung, "Independent" Kim, and "Korean Barbie" Jeni. All look gorgeous and have glowing reviews. Any one here have experience with any of them?Hi Splat, I have the same question. Curious if anyone PM'd you? Or did you try any of the three and have a report to share?

Patagonia78
01-24-19, 07:12
A few people swear by Bohemian, but I just think they are the best at the scam. The girls I had were cute, but not cuter than girls I've had at some other places. (though some agencies do the bait and switch, which Bohemian does not, to be fair).

Be careful about Aqua, as I think another Escort service has changed their name to Aqua as well. The one I am talking about has a huge natural boobed (yet slim) girl named JINAH. The photos they use of her on the website are real and the name she goes by appears to be real as well. Search something like "Seoul Escorts Jinah" and that will be the girl and the place. She had an extremely pretty face as well.

Venezuelan girl was friendly and spoke English well, which is already closer to genuine GFE than most K-girls here. The only issue with her is that I get the impression that she is very popular and knows it, so that may push her to rush. But I think Itaewon is probably the closest the genuine GFE in Korea. I think the Korean idea of GFE just does not translate to Westerners of any stripe. Korean guys seem to be attracted to girls who are coy, resist, and give off a kind of huffy (but supposedly "cute") attitude. The Itaewon girls seem to be the closest to "Westernized" in this sense. But then again, if you are in Korea, maybe you want to try Korea style. I am just annoyed by it after years.Wondering if anyone has had experience with the current lineup at Aqua? Jinah no longer there. Mina, Cocoa, Jun, K, Vicky, Mari, J, Sora, or Joy.

TenBears
01-24-19, 15:50
She looks really cute. But pricey, like all the girls on massage republic. Has anyone tried her?

LeahChoi
01-24-19, 16:53
Sarah's friend Eunhee Lee, all kinds of fetish, bondage, dominating and etc. Her web is http://seouleunhee.com.

Nother Monger
01-24-19, 22:34
Sarah's friend Eunhee Lee, all kinds of fetish, bondage, dominating and etc. Her web is http://seouleunhee.com.No offense to anyone that likes her, but she looks rather. Large for a Korean girl. Also, for 300 KRW / HR you can do a lot better IMO.

KgirlPower
01-24-19, 22:41
But then again if your a 70 year old white geezer I guess she's better then a 70 year old grannie.


No offense to anyone that likes her, but she looks rather. Large for a Korean girl. Also, for 300 KRW / HR you can do a lot better IMO.

KgirlPower
01-24-19, 22:46
Site says some of the girls are verified pics and theres reviews. And some girls are definite cuties. So is the site, reviews, pics that says verifired really legit and LE safe? Might use it more often to bang the girls then.

Thanks.


She looks really cute. But pricey, like all the girls on massage republic. Has anyone tried her?

LeahChoi
01-24-19, 23:10
No offense to anyone that likes her, but she looks rather. Large for a Korean girl.

True- Met her maybe couple of times.

I just found that Asian mistique escort agency in Tokyo is now operating in Seoul. https://www.asianmystique.com/.

There is one provider (so-so face, good attitude maybe idk) in Seoul area.

For my local friends, here some examples of affordable places in Seoul, like kissbang or handplay. https://opstar04.com/?cate1=5.

Good luck!

SeoulSearching
01-25-19, 02:50
I just want to reiterate an earlier post by someone very smart.

There is a point where the prices on these "escort sites" get ridiculous. In my world, I don't see why anyone would pay a dollar more than 200 k for FS. Personally, I don't bother paying over 150 k, and I often work the Itaewon fair down to 100 k, if interested in that (but even then, I avoid FS, usually).

Save up and plan a trip out of the county, for gosh sake. These providers expecting 300 k and up? They can pound sand. Anyone willing to pay that is either weak, rich, or just not being wise with their money.

KgirlPower
01-25-19, 17:30
So these "Hi priced" girls know that and that's the client they are after anyway not locals. So to a foreignor US guy visiting Seoul they see it as normal since that's what they are use to paying. So its not being weak, rich, or not being wise just different in perspective based on what the guy is used to. When I first looked into banging the local korean girls arriving from US I was actually put off by the low prices ie. Under 200. Had the impression they had to be ugly, fatties, or grannies at those cheap prices because that's what you usually get back in the states for those prices.


I just want to reiterate an earlier post by someone very smart.

There is a point where the prices on these "escort sites" get ridiculous. In my world, I don't see why anyone would pay a dollar more than 200 k for FS. Personally, I don't bother paying over 150 k, and I often work the Itaewon fair down to 100 k, if interested in that (but even then, I avoid FS, usually).

Save up and plan a trip out of the county, for gosh sake. These providers expecting 300 k and up? They can pound sand. Anyone willing to pay that is either weak, rich, or just not being wise with their money.

RainMania
01-26-19, 01:01
No offense to anyone that likes her, but she looks rather. Large for a Korean girl. Also, for 300 KRW / HR you can do a lot better IMO.Saw her once back when her rate was 250. Must've been 2014-15, and back then I didn't feel it was VFM.

There was even a time when her rate was 500 k per 'hour' LOL!

The most entertaining ad was this ajumma who used to post on backpage. Username was something like 'aphrodite'. Completely delusional posts about how amazing she was and how she was very picky about her client's age, weight, occupation etc, and was 'offering' a great deal of 400-500 k for a pop. Mind you she was an average mid 30-40's ajumma with a-cups!

Now posts similarly on MR, minus the picky criteria, but still asking for 250 k LOL.

SeoulSearching
01-26-19, 01:09
So these "Hi priced" girls know that and that's the client they are after anyway not locals. So to a foreignor US guy visiting Seoul they see it as normal since that's what they are use to paying. So its not being weak, rich, or not being wise just different in perspective based on what the guy is used to. When I first looked into banging the local korean girls arriving from US I was actually put off by the low prices ie. Under 200. Had the impression they had to be ugly, fatties, or grannies at those cheap prices because that's what you usually get back in the states for those prices.Thanks for making my point.

Anyone who pays that kind of money to these "providers" is ignorant and being played a fool. Cheated.

Just look at the photos of some of these girls expecting 300 k and up. Look a few posts down from this, for an example. You would seriously have to pay me to even consider something like that, and then there is no way I could get it up for it.

The agencies are all overpriced scam artists. Naive fools come here and think they're getting some pretty 20 year-old K-pop lookalike, based on a false photo, and they're sent some broken down divorcee in her 40's with plastic surgery gone awry. Most men are too guilt or embarrassed to say anything, and just walk away poorer, and hopefully wiser.

Even worse. A hook-glam want to be creates a webpage highlighting a pantyhosed body only captain Nemo could love, and advertises that she wants 300 or more.

Please.

Only completely naive or drunk foreigners would pay for that 2nd example, because nobody in a bar, Tinder, or anywhere else is going to give that the time of day.

People need to be educated that you should just not come here expecting good service for the money from these people.

A guy can pay to fly a beautiful thin lady from the Phils, or elsewhere, and have days of fun, for not much more. And she'll be grateful.

LeahChoi
01-26-19, 05:07
Saw her once back when her rate was 250. Must've been 2014-15, and back then I didn't feel it was VFM.

There was even a time when her rate was 500 k per 'hour' LOL!

The most entertaining ad was this ajumma who used to post on backpage. Username was something like 'aphrodite'. Completely delusional posts about how amazing she was and how she was very picky about her client's age, weight, occupation etc, and was 'offering' a great deal of 400-500 k for a pop. Mind you she was an average mid 30-40's ajumma with a-cups!

Now posts similarly on MR, minus the picky criteria, but still asking for 250 k LOL.Is it like. Real?

Years back when I hadn't my own website and just started to learn about advertising online, I had met people who run ads on Massage republic and CL) Eunhee advised me a few tips. I'd never used them actually.

There's one European lady now living in Hongdae area who provides massage therapy like me, I emailed her once, but never got a response. She wrote in her blog that nowadays, CL is not like it was before. I agree with her, about 4 5 years ago it was so easy to run a private ad, including escort.

Garthie1
01-26-19, 12:30
Do you remember the Korean woman who ran Moulin Rouge in the early 200's? Per the pictures, it's CC Bar now. Used to go there and get blowjobs from her and she had a couple of tasteful nude paintings of herself on the wall. One evening I went in, she was tending the bar and there was an old German guy sitting at the bar chatting with her. I sat a few stools away and said to her, "I'm thinking of getting another blowjob from you tonight, OK?" he face turned red and she was making facial expressions to tell me to shut up. Learned later that she was dating the German dude and they were planning to get married. Also used to pay $120 K apiece for 3 of her girls and have a fuck fest on top of the pool table. Mamasan would lock the door, cover the pool table with a cloth and we'd go crazy. She liked to watch and would grin from ear to ear. I really miss that place the most.I remember back in 2008 the lady that worked there or owned? It. I think she drove a little convertible that she parked out front, Mercedes maybe? Was short and had curly hair, bolt on tits, firm body, nice face. She was a hotty, but I never did romp with her.

Anyway, there's so many of those women who've come and gone through the hill. I can only remember faces and places, but few names.

Garthie1
01-26-19, 12:36
I agree about Bean being YMMV. First time I saw her the service was amazing. Second time was a complete bust. BTW, Kay and Cherry have both moved to Avant Garde. Kay told me that Happy Days has a new owner but it wasn't even open when I went by last night.Kay, Cherry, and Bean at Avante Garde. That's a crowded house.

Cherry has those enormous tits, but is pretty fat, now, too. There was a time when she had a waist that complimented her tits and she was 'wow'.

Garthie1
01-26-19, 12:41
Bean has a remarkable body for a Korean woman. She wouldn't look out of place in a hip hop video (perky tits, flat abs, small hip, HUGE ASS), all packaged around 5 ft tall.

Bean is the only Korean woman that I know that can lay on her stomach and her pussy is right there for you, without spreading her legs or lifting her hips. Amazing! I love it.

LOL, maybe too much information, but she tends to 'queef' a lot, especially when you DATY.

Not sure if DATY is a smart idea considering she has boxes of condoms that she runs through weekly.

Add that up over 13 years (I first saw her in 2006) and that's a lot of dick.

I will say, though, that after you DATY and then hit it BBFS, she feels like heaven. Wow.

Garthie1
01-26-19, 12:57
I'm trying to remember her name. Is Kelly the lady who is maybe late 40's and speaks English somewhat well? She was in the other Texas on 'the hill' before going to this 2nd Texas, across from the lower International Food Store? If so, she was there, and the International Food Store Texas, last month. She seemed to be having trouble keeping girls working long-term. Easy come, easy go. Once they make the money they want for whatever, they're gone in short order. She's a nice lady, so it's nothing negative about her. I may have a photo of her, but I don't post pics of people without permission.Sounds like her. Kelly's in her 40's or probably 50's now. She has a real nice body and nice ass, usually bob haircut, and tan.

She ran the old Texas on the hill and now the one on the main strip that you're talking about. Soo-ae was working there last December when I visited for vacation, but Kelly wasn't there.

I asked Soo-Ae if Kelly was available and she said 'Never! I laughed to myself and thought about 2014, just before I left Korea, when I paid Kelly about 300,000 won for a tryst with Candy's friend at VIP, despite her 'retirement'.

If you have a picture of Kelly and would like to PM me, that'd be nice. She's one of my ATF and hopefully she's still DTF when I get back there in a year or so.

SeoulSearching
01-26-19, 15:13
Sounds like her. Kelly's in her 40's or probably 50's now. She has a real nice body and nice ass, usually bob haircut, and tan.

She ran the old Texas on the hill and now the one on the main strip that you're talking about. Soo-ae was working there last December when I visited for vacation, but Kelly wasn't there.

I asked Soo-Ae if Kelly was available and she said 'Never! I laughed to myself and thought about 2014, just before I left Korea, when I paid Kelly about 300,000 won for a tryst with Candy's friend at VIP, despite her 'retirement'.

If you have a picture of Kelly and would like to PM me, that'd be nice. She's one of my ATF and hopefully she's still DTF when I get back there in a year or so.Ah, the pics I have are from 2010, due to the date stamp. Video, actually. They aren't nudes, or anything like that. People sometimes have let me take photos in confidence, and I just can't share them, unless they're long, long gone and would never remember me. If we're talking about the same lady, and I think we are, she's more of a mamasan these days. Back then, in 2010, she was working at Either Avant Garde, Tiffany, or Happy Days. Might have still been called Hobby Horse, back then? Can't remember. It was one of those 3 on the line, below old Polly's. She was new to the hill in 2010. I remember the night, because I was with Nadia the same night, down the street at Moonshine, and took pics, then, too. She was drunk off her ass, or probably wouldn't have let me. Both time-stamped same evening.

About 2 years ago, there was a hottie working at Texas 1, then Texas 2, with Kelly. I have photos and video of me blowing my load all over her, a few times. Her name was YoungEun. Cute little thing in her mid 20's, I'm guessing. Really miss her.

For old times sake, I will include a photo of the Thai lady who used to walk independent around the hill.

By the way, I heard Sunny has left Tiffany, recently. She comes and goes.

RainMania
01-26-19, 16:57
Thanks for making my point.

Anyone who pays that kind of money to these "providers" is ignorant and being played a fool. Cheated.

Just look at the photos of some of these girls expecting 300 k and up. Look a few posts down from this, for an example. You would seriously have to pay me to even consider something like that, and then there is no way I could get it up for it.

The agencies are all overpriced scam artists. Naive fools come here and think they're getting some pretty 20 year-old K-pop lookalike, based on a false photo, and they're sent some broken down divorcee in her 40's with plastic surgery gone awry. Most men are too guilt or embarrassed to say anything, and just walk away poorer, and hopefully wiser.

Even worse. A hook-glam want to be creates a webpage highlighting a pantyhosed body only captain Nemo could love, and advertises that she wants 300 or more.

Please.

Only completely naive or drunk foreigners would pay for that 2nd example, because nobody in a bar, Tinder, or anywhere else is going to give that the time of day.

People need to be educated that you should just not come here expecting good service for the money from these people.

A guy can pay to fly a beautiful thin lady from the Phils, or elsewhere, and have days of fun, for not much more. And she'll be grateful.Hear hear!

If you're paying an agency 300+ per hour (10 mins BJ, 10-20 minutes fuck and she's out of there), just know at least half of that is going to some guy sitting in a chair doing absolutely nothing other than spamming websites looking for gullible mongerers. And let's not forget you probably forked out for the hotel / motel room too, and an extra 20-50 bucks for her 'taxi' (aka pimp).

If you're paying an independent girl for the same, you're still shorting yourself because she's just earned a month's rent for what is essentially half an hour's work, which you probably worked at least a day or two to earn. You just dropped 1-2 day's wages (16 hrs work) for 30 mins of sub-par action. And you're supposed to be satisfied with that?

Even at 100 per hour independent girls are in the top 1% earners in the country, and I damn well guarantee they wouldn't have a shortage of customers.

I once did a breakdown of generic costs of running an establishment and why the likes of anmas and officetels charge what they charge, you can actually see where your money is going in terms of staffing, the venue and services. But some bullshit one man / girl operation deserves the same fee or more for offering less? Take a fucking hike LOL.

RainMania
01-26-19, 17:11
Is it like. Real?

Years back when I hadn't my own website and just started to learn about advertising online, I had met people who run ads on Massage republic and CL) Eunhee advised me a few tips. I'd never used them actually.

There's one European lady now living in Hongdae area who provides massage therapy like me, I emailed her once, but never got a response. She wrote in her blog that nowadays, CL is not like it was before. I agree with her, about 4 5 years ago it was so easy to run a private ad, including escort.It's very real LOL.

She would write paragraph after paragraph (about 10 in all, if not more) of nonsensical bullshit about what she expected from the lucky client that meets her criteria and how her massage and sex are world class. She started to tone down on the criteria bit after a few months, I imagine because very few mongerers, as horny and dumb as we might be, are not that dumb.

Advertising is only one piece of the puzzle to running a successful SP business. Most foreigner-oriented SPs in Korea still don't understand repeat customers make your business last, not one time visitors flying in on a business trip. They had a good base of customers back in the day's rates were 150, but most of us have moved on to greener pastures after the price gouging started. I don't know about other guys, but I won't be back in the local independent scene because I've found literally a million other ways and places to spend my money.

KgirlPower
01-26-19, 17:25
I'm saying is if a foreginor comes to seoul and see advertised rates of 300 they would not be shocked since that's the going rate in the US etc. Now after seeing all the grannies and fatties also advertising at those rates the guy probably will think the hoe scene in Korea is trash and / or theres alot of fetish needs in Korea to pay 300 for a fattie.

US cost breakdown goes like this: 300=150 to the girl, 100 to the owner, 50 to the booker. Korean girls take less of a cut here since alot try to work overseas in the US or Japan.


Hear hear!

If you're paying an agency 300+ per hour (10 mins BJ, 10-20 minutes fuck and she's out of there), just know at least half of that is going to some guy sitting in a chair doing absolutely nothing other than spamming websites looking for gullible mongerers. And let's not forget you probably forked out for the hotel / motel room too, and an extra 20-50 bucks for her 'taxi' (aka pimp).

If you're paying an independent girl for the same, you're still shorting yourself because she's just earned a month's rent for what is essentially half an hour's work, which you probably worked at least a day or two to earn. You just dropped 1-2 day's wages (16 hrs work) for 30 mins of sub-par action. And you're supposed to be satisfied with that?

Even at 100 per hour independent girls are in the top 1% earners in the country, and I damn well guarantee they wouldn't have a shortage of customers.

I once did a breakdown of generic costs of running an establishment and why the likes of anmas and officetels charge what they charge, you can actually see where your money is going in terms of staffing, the venue and services. But some bullshit one man / girl operation deserves the same fee or more for offering less? Take a fucking hike LOL.

KgirlPower
01-26-19, 17:45
The girls and owners there have the routine down to a science.

60 min session:

-5 minutes of GFE arms wrapped around your neck sensual DFK soon as you step in the apt by the door.

-5 minutes bend down upzip pants and BBBJ.

-10 minutes of mutual shower, DFK, bubble body rub, HJ, BBBJ, rub your dick in front of pussy hole teasing bareback.

-20 minutes of FS, 69,CG, BBBJ, rimming, CIM, bareback sometimes.

-15 minutes of DFK, GFE, HJ or 2nd shot attempt.

-5 minutes final shower, DFK, bye.

Service like this reason so many guys end up dating or marrying the chicks in the US. Korea is lame service wise. Barely any GFE and all clock watchers. I rather hobby in US at 300 then 150 that I pay in Korea.


Hear hear!

If you're paying an agency 300+ per hour (10 mins BJ, 10-20 minutes fuck and she's out of there), just know at least half of that is going to some guy sitting in a chair doing absolutely nothing other than spamming websites looking for gullible mongerers. And let's not forget you probably forked out for the hotel / motel room too, and an extra 20-50 bucks for her 'taxi' (aka pimp).

If you're paying an independent girl for the same, you're still shorting yourself because she's just earned a month's rent for what is essentially half an hour's work, which you probably worked at least a day or two to earn. You just dropped 1-2 day's wages (16 hrs work) for 30 mins of sub-par action. And you're supposed to be satisfied with that?

Even at 100 per hour independent girls are in the top 1% earners in the country, and I damn well guarantee they wouldn't have a shortage of customers.

I once did a breakdown of generic costs of running an establishment and why the likes of anmas and officetels charge what they charge, you can actually see where your money is going in terms of staffing, the venue and services. But some bullshit one man / girl operation deserves the same fee or more for offering less? Take a fucking hike LOL.

Nother Monger
01-27-19, 02:41
I'd generally agree that the service in the states is better than in Korea, but it's gone downhill since of the main review sites went offline. I've still had some really memorable sessions in Korea though, so it's always going to be YMMV. As for looks, I'd say it's subjective, but for me (as someone who mongered in the states in since the 90's, specifically California / LA / SF) I find girls in Korea are generally younger and there is much, much more selection if you can get into Officetels. I guess it depends on what you're looking for.


The girls and owners there have the routine down to a science.

60 min session:

-5 minutes of GFE arms wrapped around your neck sensual DFK soon as you step in the apt by the door.

-5 minutes bend down upzip pants and BBBJ.

-10 minutes of mutual shower, DFK, bubble body rub, HJ, BBBJ, rub your dick in front of pussy hole teasing bareback.

-20 minutes of FS, 69,CG, BBBJ, rimming, CIM, bareback sometimes.

-15 minutes of DFK, GFE, HJ or 2nd shot attempt.

-5 minutes final shower, DFK, bye.

Service like this reason so many guys end up dating or marrying the chicks in the US. Korea is lame service wise. Barely any GFE and all clock watchers. I rather hobby in US at 300 then 150 that I pay in Korea.

Garthie1
01-27-19, 04:00
If we're talking about the same lady, and I think we are, she's more of a mamasan these days. Back then, in 2010, she was working at Either Avant Garde, Tiffany, or Happy Days. Might have still been called Hobby Horse, back then? Can't remember. It was one of those 3 on the line, below old Polly's. She was new to the hill in 2010. goes.Yeah, she had transitioned to mamasan back in 2014 or so. Said she was out of the game, but when I dropped 200,000 won in 2014 for a short time, she didn't turn it down, and even commented that she can't let the other girls see her walking up the hill to my hotel room at the hilltop.

She had another girl working for her at the time and I paid 200,000 for a threesome, but knew it would be lame so instead offered 200,000 for the girl to hang out while Kelly went to my room and we fucked. LOL.

She did start working in 2010, because I remember the first time I saw her was the night Korea played in the World Cup in June 2010. I left in July for about 9 months, but came back the next year in March for 3 more years.

She got tired of me short-changing her (100 K or less for a session), fucking her bareback, blowing my load in her, etc. , so she cut me off.

She worked in Thailand prior to 2010 and worked in Tiffany's, I believe, when I first saw her and then moved down to 'Amazon', which burned down in a fire and is where the hotel is now.

After Amazon burned, she bounced down to what used to be called 'Rose' and changed it to 'Texas'.

She used to date this old dude, about 65 years old, and stayed at his apartment from time to time. I saw him once in her bar and he said Hi. Nice guy, don't think he was tracking that I was laying the pipe to his prostitute girlfriend / mamasan.

Now I guess she's running Texas on the mainstrip, hope she's working there when I get there in the summer. Looking forward to fucking her for old time sake.

The picture of the girl is somewhat familiar, but I know I didn't fuck her. Kelly had some nice, nice looking girls that worked for her and I always was tempted to fuck them, but felt guilty that Kelly wouldn't let me fuck her anymore if I did.

Wolfpack23
01-27-19, 07:51
What's a Korean "backpage" type site to call escorts?

Sidenote: Recently went over to Suwon's red or should I say pink light district to check out the scene. None of the hot looking girls on the main strip would see me but took a turn into a small alley with less traffic and went up to one that I thought looked decent enough and she let me bang for 50 krw. The girls on this strip where definitely less attractive and "bigger". Would the Cheonho one be more foreigner friendly?

SeoulSearching
01-27-19, 09:24
OK, for a few more trips down memory lane, of ladies long, long gone. I'll keep it to girls I haven't seen in nearly 10 years, or longer.

Anyone remember "Sunny" who used to work at Tiger, then Royal (VIP), and various places around The Hill, back around 2002-2005, or so? She once told me that she used to be a really good dancer (and this was backed-up by some other girls working with her). She may have been on TV for it, back when hip-hop style dancing was young, in Korea. Sunny was maybe 4'10" tall, if that. She had straight hair pulled tight, and spoke like she'd learned her English from hip-hop while smoking cigarettes. She had an alcohol problem, and money troubles (which led to her leaving the hill entirely, much like Giu). Rumor I heard was that she skipped-out on rent and had to disappear. Times became really tough back then, because it was not long after the US troops were really being watched by MP's and kept from the hill, rents were still expensive to make, and not enough clients came in to pay for it. Rough time for many of the ladies.

The rumor I heard was that Sunny ran off to Dongducheon, and I actually went there once, but didn't see her. Sunny got the raw end of the deal on life. She once told me her parents were killed in a car accident, and she was basically raised by her grandmother. But I think she had to raise herself. I miss her. Really fun sense of humor, and a laugh to be around. Sometimes we'd just do it, and I'd pay her, but I don't think she always expected that. I think we just liked doing each other. Sometimes I would just visit to say Hi, and we'd talk for an hour or two. I didn't buy drinks or anything, and she never asked. She's one of the 2 or 3 hill girls that came to my apartment as a friend just to hang out. No money involved. Wish I could blow my load in her, again. I liked her body, and the way she did her make-up.

Another interesting lady wasn't around very long. I would give you her name, because I actually think it was her real name, so I won't. She was gargantuan huge, in height, and former national volleyball player. This was confirmed both by her, and other girls working the hill, who remember watching her on TV. She might have been on the Olympic team, if I remember one of the other girls telling me that. She was at least 6'3" tall, minimum. Actually, she could have been close to 6'4" tall. She started out working at Cabin, and gave a nice BJ, letting you blow a load all over her face. I remember cumming in her wide-open mouth, and her choking on it (I had quite a load, that day). I went for a ride in her (I think it was White) Ssayoung Jeep-like vehicle, once. She was a really nice girl -- and honestly, didn't have any business being on the hill, because she was just too good of a person. I remember once she told me that she was so big, people would confuse her for a guy sometimes, and that other Koreans were surprised when she told them she would cry, sometimes (as if she were too big / strong to cry). Anyway, she was only around for maybe a year or so, mid 2000's. I remember she started dating a tall African guy who was someone bigger than she was. I imagine she had a real difficult time finding love in this country, give her stature. I wanted to hug that girl when I visited her, because I couldn't imagine what she must have endured, growing up. I hope that guy was good to her, and I hope he wasn't just using her for a Visa, or something. I think I remember telling her she needed to find a new way to make money, because she was way too good a person to be doing that, and she was. Thankfully, she disappeared.

I'll leave you with another pic, today. This is a different girl named "Sunny" who was working in 2002-2003. She worked in what was once (I believe) Dallas club, which has been named MoonShine for many years. This particular Sunny was pulling down massive coin in 2002, and she worked with another young hottie who married a guy and moved to St. Louis (gosh I wish I remember her name, as she gave an awesome BJ while doing the splits, and I loved her slow style). Sunny made 7 or 8 million a month, easy, back in those days. I think she saved up enough to buy into real estate. Her English was very good, and she was smart. She and that other girl got their start at Cheers club, before opening Dallas. I believe I remember both of these girls were originally from Jeju. I remember sitting and waiting for her in one curtained booth while she did some guy in the next booth. I caught a peek through the curtain folds.

Here's that pic of the 2nd Sunny, showing a look at her face when getting the shaft, and also her legs before. Also some pics of the Hill circa 2003, when MoonShine was Dallas, before the big burn down of ABC, Tiger, etc, and when VIP used to be called Royal.

LeahChoi
01-27-19, 14:48
It's very real LOL.

She would write paragraph after paragraph (about 10 in all, if not more) of nonsensical bullshit about what she expected from the lucky client that meets her criteria and how her massage and sex are world class. She started to tone down on the criteria bit after a few months, I imagine because very few mongerers, as horny and dumb as we might be, are not that dumb.

Advertising is only one piece of the puzzle to running a successful SP business. Most foreigner-oriented SPs in Korea still don't understand repeat customers make your business last, not one time visitors flying in on a business trip. They had a good base of customers back in the day's rates were 150, but most of us have moved on to greener pastures after the price gouging started. I don't know about other guys, but I won't be back in the local independent scene because I've found literally a million other ways and places to spend my money.Yes SP businesses are far from perfect. The only one happening bar in Seoul isn't available in English http://www.clubdesire.co.kr/m/main.php.

I remember BP required a credit card for advertising so it was kinda tricky because of privacy.

SeoulSearching
01-27-19, 16:42
Stopped by and had a talk with some ladies on The Hill, and got some serious news.

Much of the top of the hill is to be demolished by April 1, to make way for more hotel or hostel guest house buildings.

I took a photo of them more condemned buildings, and heard that some of your favorite haunts will also be ripped down, including old Polly's kettle. But if course, this ancient site is not taking it.

Basically everything that is on either side of Polly's, including Avant Garde, Tiffany, and the other in that block, also. Bar J, Forrest, and new Polly's are already boarded up.

They are still there, but this includes where your beloved Kay and friend Bean work. Saw Kay was there tonight.

The mamasan from Tiffany said she is planning to open a bar behind Hamilton somewhere, but is not sure if it will be a bar just for drinks or with girls, or a typical public bar.

KgirlPower
01-27-19, 17:34
Cool to read stuff about hobby life back in the old days. For sure I could not handle seeing chicks back then with unshaved pubes thick as the amazon rain forest and butt hairs. Grosses me out just imagining that now actually. Too used to proper grooming with laser waxing etc in modern times now.


OK, for a few more trips down memory lane, of ladies long, long gone. I'll keep it to girls I haven't seen in nearly 10 years, or longer.

Anyone remember "Sunny" who used to work at Tiger, then Royal (VIP), and various places around The Hill, back around 2002-2005, or so? She once told me that she used to be a really good dancer (and this was backed-up by some other girls working with her). She may have been on TV for it, back when hip-hop style dancing was young, in Korea. Sunny was maybe 4'10" tall, if that. She had straight hair pulled tight, and spoke like she'd learned her English from hip-hop while smoking cigarettes. She had an alcohol problem, and money troubles (which led to her leaving the hill entirely, much like Giu). Rumor I heard was that she skipped-out on rent and had to disappear. Times became really tough back then, because it was not long after the US troops were really being watched by MP's and kept from the hill, rents were still expensive to make, and not enough clients came in to pay for it. Rough time for many of the ladies.

The rumor I heard was that Sunny ran off to Dongducheon, and I actually went there once, but didn't see her. Sunny got the raw end of the deal on life. She once told me her parents were killed in a car accident, and she was basically raised by her grandmother. But I think she had to raise herself. I miss her. Really fun sense of humor, and a laugh to be around. Sometimes we'd just do it, and I'd pay her, but I don't think she always expected that. I think we just liked doing each other. Sometimes I would just visit to say Hi, and we'd talk for an hour or two. I didn't buy drinks or anything, and she never asked. She's one of the 2 or 3 hill girls that came to my apartment as a friend just to hang out. No money involved. Wish I could blow my load in her, again. I liked her body, and the way she did her make-up.

Another interesting lady wasn't around very long. I would give you her name, because I actually think it was her real name, so I won't. She was gargantuan huge, in height, and former national volleyball player. This was confirmed both by her, and other girls working the hill, who remember watching her on TV. She might have been on the Olympic team, if I remember one of the other girls telling me that. She was at least 6'3" tall, minimum. Actually, she could have been close to 6'4" tall. She started out working at Cabin, and gave a nice BJ, letting you blow a load all over her face. I remember cumming in her wide-open mouth, and her choking on it (I had quite a load, that day). I went for a ride in her (I think it was White) Ssayoung Jeep-like vehicle, once. She was a really nice girl -- and honestly, didn't have any business being on the hill, because she was just too good of a person. I remember once she told me that she was so big, people would confuse her for a guy sometimes, and that other Koreans were surprised when she told them she would cry, sometimes (as if she were too big / strong to cry). Anyway, she was only around for maybe a year or so, mid 2000's. I remember she started dating a tall African guy who was someone bigger than she was. I imagine she had a real difficult time finding love in this country, give her stature. I wanted to hug that girl when I visited her, because I couldn't imagine what she must have endured, growing up. I hope that guy was good to her, and I hope he wasn't just using her for a Visa, or something. I think I remember telling her she needed to find a new way to make money, because she was way too good a person to be doing that, and she was. Thankfully, she disappeared.

I'll leave you with another pic, today. This is a different girl named "Sunny" who was working in 2002-2003. She worked in what was once (I believe) Dallas club, which has been named MoonShine for many years. This particular Sunny was pulling down massive coin in 2002, and she worked with another young hottie who married a guy and moved to St. Louis (gosh I wish I remember her name, as she gave an awesome BJ while doing the splits, and I loved her slow style). Sunny made 7 or 8 million a month, easy, back in those days. I think she saved up enough to buy into real estate. Her English was very good, and she was smart. She and that other girl got their start at Cheers club, before opening Dallas. I believe I remember both of these girls were originally from Jeju. I remember sitting and waiting for her in one curtained booth while she did some guy in the next booth. I caught a peek through the curtain folds.

Here's that pic of the 2nd Sunny, showing a look at her face when getting the shaft, and also her legs before. Also some pics of the Hill circa 2003, when MoonShine was Dallas, before the big burn down of ABC, Tiger, etc, and when VIP used to be called Royal.

KgirlPower
01-27-19, 17:39
Was checking some of ads and one of them had girls offering a service option of "hamburger" in korean. What in the world is that?


What's a Korean "backpage" type site to call escorts?

Sidenote: Recently went over to Suwon's red or should I say pink light district to check out the scene. None of the hot looking girls on the main strip would see me but took a turn into a small alley with less traffic and went up to one that I thought looked decent enough and she let me bang for 50 krw. The girls on this strip where definitely less attractive and "bigger". Would the Cheonho one be more foreigner friendly?

KgirlPower
01-27-19, 17:47
All mid 30's advertising as 20's. Once in awhile legit 20 girl will show up.

Still hot but since over 30 dumped to the curve in Korea so head to the states to get biz. But man what they lack in youth they more then make up for it in service and skills since had years of experience working in Korea before heading to the states. I guess that's why the service is so good. Been working for so long they have no hang ups banging dudes and refined their sex skills.


I'd generally agree that the service in the states is better than in Korea, but it's gone downhill since of the main review sites went offline. I've still had some really memorable sessions in Korea though, so it's always going to be YMMV. As for looks, I'd say it's subjective, but for me (as someone who mongered in the states in since the 90's, specifically California / LA / SF) I find girls in Korea are generally younger and there is much, much more selection if you can get into Officetels. I guess it depends on what you're looking for.

Garthie1
01-27-19, 18:32
Another interesting lady wasn't around very long. I would give you her name, because I actually think it was her real name, so I won't. She was gargantuan huge, in height, and former national volleyball player. This was confirmed both by her, and other girls working the hill, who remember watching her on TV. She might have been on the Olympic team, if I remember one of the other girls telling me that. She was at least 6'3" tall, minimum. .Not sure about the pic posted, but I certainly remember the gargantuan girl. In the words of Adam Sandler, 'she's a big *****, behemoth!' She was super tall and known for being the volleyball player, I had seen her around a few times and remember she only worked for a year or two.

I left Korea in 2004, but flew back during my mid-tour leave from Iraq in June 2005 and she was working the top of the hill at a place across from Stompers, now known as 'Lily'. I stopped by mid-day and she was there, not many other girls working at the time, so I thought I may as well go with it.

She did like a strip tease or so, but I was unimpressed and asked her to lay down so I could DATY. Her legs were so long, I remember thinking they could wrap around my head two or three times. She seemed to enjoy it pretty good and myself, too. I remember BBFS and blowing my load, then leaving.

I went back to Iraq and returned to Korea a year later, but I never saw her again, though I asked the ajumma what became of her. Same as what you said, the ajumma replied that she had run off with some black guy. Too bad for me, but good for her, I guess. She was a nice girl, nice personality, not jaded or money hungry in anyway.

I also remember the Royal club before it became VIP. In 1999, I remember going there with friends and a real hot looking girl worked there. My friend was a pretty good looking dude, he went to the bathroom to take a leak and she followed him in and started giving him BBBJ! He couldn't believe it and told me as much. Crazy times. I'd never get that treatment.

Back then the Hill was known more for partying than for hookers. Stompers was rocking, the bars across the street from it were party bars, not juicy joints. Polly's Kettle House was full of drunk customers and the place beside it (now yogurt joint?) was a legit bar with pool table. Trans bars were nonexistent, their place was down the hill on the other side of the street.

I also remember what used to be 'Amazon', changed to Tiger Tavern and a girl that was murdered there in February 2000. I remembered meeting her in on New Years night 1999 and paying her for short time. One of the few times back then that I didn't use a condom (I was still young then), she was so distraught that I blew inside her. I felt bad and went back to visit her on a cold Monday in February, when I noticed all the bars were closed and police tape around the Amazon club. The next day I read in Stars and Stripes that a soldier from Munsan came down and choked her to death in a drunken rage. Sad.

Anyway, like I said, hookers weren't as prevalent on the hill and it was more work to find a decent one. However, by 2003 when I was stationed there again, it was a rocking *****house from top to bottom. Cabin, where Bean first started working with another older Korean woman with a nice rack and body and good fuck.

August 2003, across from Moonshine was 'Rose' (changed to Texas, now boarded up) and I glimpsed the most beautiful Korean girl on the hill. A stunner in a red dress with D size naturals, long curly hair, and a beautiful face. I was smitten and I paid something like $300 or so, just ridiculous amount. I fucked her BB just hoping that she'd get knocked up and marry me. She's continued working on the hill for many years now, friends with Candy at VIP and Tiffany (on the main strip) bar. She's gained some weight, but her face is still beautiful. At the time, though, she was something else. Gorgeous. I would spend quite a bit of coin on her through the years, always a fun time.

SeoulSearching
01-28-19, 00:15
Not sure about the pic posted, but I certainly remember the gargantuan girl. In the words of Adam Sandler, 'she's a big *****, behemoth!' She was super tall and known for being the volleyball player, I had seen her around a few times and remember she only worked for a year or two.

I left Korea in 2004, but flew back during my mid-tour leave from Iraq in June 2005 and she was working the top of the hill at a place across from Stompers, now known as 'Lily'. I stopped by mid-day and she was there, not many other girls working at the time, so I thought I may as well go with it.

She did like a strip tease or so, but I was unimpressed and asked her to lay down so I could DATY. Her legs were so long, I remember thinking they could wrap around my head two or three times. She seemed to enjoy it pretty good and myself, too. I remember BBFS and blowing my load, then leaving.

I went back to Iraq and returned to Korea a year later, but I never saw her again, though I asked the ajumma what became of her. Same as what you said, the ajumma replied that she had run off with some black guy. Too bad for me, but good for her, I guess. She was a nice girl, nice personality, not jaded or money hungry in anyway.

I also remember the Royal club before it became VIP. In 1999, I remember going there with friends and a real hot looking girl worked there. My friend was a pretty good looking dude, he went to the bathroom to take a leak and she followed him in and started giving him BBBJ! He couldn't believe it and told me as much. Crazy times. I'd never get that treatment.

Back then the Hill was known more for partying than for hookers. Stompers was rocking, the bars across the street from it were party bars, not juicy joints. Polly's Kettle House was full of drunk customers and the place beside it (now yogurt joint?) was a legit bar with pool table. Trans bars were nonexistent, their place was down the hill on the other side of the street.

I also remember what used to be 'Amazon', changed to Tiger Tavern and a girl that was murdered there in February 2000. I remembered meeting her in on New Years night 1999 and paying her for short time. One of the few times back then that I didn't use a condom (I was still young then), she was so distraught that I blew inside her. I felt bad and went back to visit her on a cold Monday in February, when I noticed all the bars were closed and police tape around the Amazon club. The next day I read in Stars and Stripes that a soldier from Munsan came down and choked her to death in a drunken rage. Sad..Was there another murder in 2000? I don't remember hearing about that one. I remember one sometime around 2004, when some girl was strangled in that big long bar that had a veranda in the back overlooking Itaewon mainstreet. Also remember one of them got killed in Hilltop Hotel, a few years later.

I once met a very old Korean man in Itaewon (80's. Would be nearing 100 now, but probably dead) who was drinking a beer at Polly's. He told me that "the hill" became "the hill" because in pre-Japan days, it was a potter's field for burial of Koreans with no money. He said that at that time, the entire area was pear trees -- thus the name, Itaewon, which is Pear Tree Town, or some such meaning. Because it was a former graveyard, nobody would make a business there, and the sex industry sprang up around it. Can't remember if he said that was during the Japanese era in the early 1900's or after, when the USA got there, but that's how it got its start, if true. No reason for the old man to lie.

Was by last night, The entire left half is now condemned, except the older Polly's (now the Yogurt ajumma place) and the bars where Beane and Kay are. That block of 3 will be demolished by April 1, also. Not sure why my previous post didn't get put up yet, so Tiffany, Bean's place, and the other right there will all be gone. Not sure if they will also rip down the condemned bars below the hotel, now (eve, Cheers, etc) as that'll be all that's left on that entire side.

Adding a photo. Apparently my phone doesn't interact well with the website.

I will also tell Kgirlpower. You think people didn't shave Bush 20 years ago? We aren't talking about 1970's, here. The hill in the early 2000's was still in its prime, with FAR more attractive women. And boatloads of them changing every weekend. It was candy land. Back in the tail-end of the day when college-age women had a dream of escaping to the USA, and hooking-up with some foreigner in Iteawon was a prime way to do it.

RainMania
01-28-19, 09:32
Yes SP businesses are far from perfect. The only one happening bar in Seoul isn't available in English http://www.clubdesire.co.kr/m/main.php.

I remember BP required a credit card for advertising so it was kinda tricky because of privacy.Desire is pretty decent. I liked the chilled atmosphere of the place. After my first 2 visits something has always come up preventing me from returning. When my filipina visited Korea we planned to drop by, but ended up fucking each other to exhaustion LOL.

There was a time when cuckolds used to post in CL and BP for you to come and pound their K-wives. Half of the posts were scammers just looking for dick pics to fap to, but a lot were also genuine couples, though almost all on the wrong side of 40. I wonder where they post these days.

LeahChoi
01-28-19, 13:01
Hi,

I also walked tonight from Seobingo through the Itaewon area and passed the Hill. Oh mine I felt like I'm on time machine or smthg like that. It looks now so similar to abandoned streets in Anjungri. Only a few bar and on upper side, 2 shops like "glass house"s were opened (Laura, XO-a girl with a cute dolly face smiled to me behind the window). Once in my earlier years I had to stay about a month in a place called "Dream gosiwon" down the hill. Had those memories back) and I think the bar you are talking about, moved to the Hamilton's back side on the 2nd floor of a place called Tartini, just saw a paper on the wall. It is not a foreigner-only allowed area there, so guess it will be a regular bar.


Stopped by and had a talk with some ladies on The Hill, and got some serious news.

Much of the top of the hill is to be demolished by April 1, to make way for more hotel or hostel guest house buildings.

I took a photo of them more condemned buildings, and heard that some of your favorite haunts will also be ripped down, including old Polly's kettle. But if course, this ancient site is not taking it.

Basically everything that is on either side of Polly's, including Avant Garde, Tiffany, and the other in that block, also. Bar J, Forrest, and new Polly's are already boarded up.

They are still there, but this includes where your beloved Kay and friend Bean work. Saw Kay was there tonight.

The mamasan from Tiffany said she is planning to open a bar behind Hamilton somewhere, but is not sure if it will be a bar just for drinks or with girls, or a typical public bar.

Lion55
01-28-19, 13:29
Stopped by and had a talk with some ladies on The Hill, and got some serious news.

Much of the top of the hill is to be demolished by April 1, to make way for more hotel or hostel guest house buildings.

I took a photo of them more condemned buildings, and heard that some of your favorite haunts will also be ripped down, including old Polly's kettle. But if course, this ancient site is not taking it.

Basically everything that is on either side of Polly's, including Avant Garde, Tiffany, and the other in that block, also. Bar J, Forrest, and new Polly's are already boarded up.

They are still there, but this includes where your beloved Kay and friend Bean work. Saw Kay was there tonight.

The mamasan from Tiffany said she is planning to open a bar behind Hamilton somewhere, but is not sure if it will be a bar just for drinks or with girls, or a typical public bar.Wow. Thanks for the news. That may be why Happy Days already seems to be closed and both Kay and Cherry have moved to Avant Garde. From what you've said it sounds like they'll have to move somewhere else soon.

LeahChoi
01-28-19, 13:41
On Ashley Madison? LOL. There's another one site like BP, Locanto, didn't checked with it for a while.

CL always was like a roulette. I met so many awesome, very nice people through CL and sometimes (very rare though) a total nonsense.


Desire is pretty decent. I liked the chilled atmosphere of the place. After my first 2 visits something has always come up preventing me from returning. When my filipina visited Korea we planned to drop by, but ended up fucking each other to exhaustion LOL.

There was a time when cuckolds used to post in CL and BP for you to come and pound their K-wives. Half of the posts were scammers just looking for dick pics to fap to, but a lot were also genuine couples, though almost all on the wrong side of 40. I wonder where they post these days.

SeoulSearching
01-28-19, 17:41
August 2003, across from Moonshine was 'Rose' (changed to Texas, now boarded up) and I glimpsed the most beautiful Korean girl on the hill. A stunner in a red dress with D size naturals, long curly hair, and a beautiful face. I was smitten and I paid something like $300 or so, just ridiculous amount. I fucked her BB just hoping that she'd get knocked up and marry me. She's continued working on the hill for many years now, friends with Candy at VIP and Tiffany (on the main strip) bar. She's gained some weight, but her face is still beautiful. At the time, though, she was something else. Gorgeous. I would spend quite a bit of coin on her through the years, always a fun time.OK, now you have me really curious. I know Candy and but I'm not sure who you are talking about, unless you are talking about the gal who has been at VIP forever that is currently the main renter? She seems pretty quite, but then will burst into a huge laugh. I won't say her name, because that'll get me in trouble. I know her very well (Candy, also). I remember Candy's first week, actually. Candy used to be overweight, when she started, BTW. She lost it, and never gained it back.

Anyway, If that's her, yeah, she was ridiculously exotically hot back in the early 2000's. She was actually the first lady I sat down with in the back, and was offered a BJ from when I first came here. I wasn't sure I wanted to pay it, and left. Was with her many times after that, though. I ended up at the top of the hill in Hobby Horse with a transgender named "Baby", who I didn't figure out was a transgender until after. Horrible story that gives me nightmares. That was my introduction to "the hill."

Do you know the bartender at VIP? That bartender was 10-pro looking material, and is still attractive. One of my biggest regrets is that I didn't pony-up and do her silly, fifteen plus years ago. She was always busy or some such, so I never got the chance. She doesn't do anything but bartend, and hasn't for years, so that ship has sailed. OMG, was she hot, though. Perfect body.

I have spent so many millions of won in Royal / VIP, over the years. I'm trying to think all of the girls I've been with in there. I can't remember them all. The current renter whose name I cannot say, Candy, Giu, Sooyeon, Annie, Sunny, this hot little number who was a golfer that skipped off to England, and those are just a very small few that I can remember.

Man, back in the day, there was so many extremely hot ladies working on "the hill. " Hot and clean. It's really depressing what little is left of it all. You could start at VIP and see 3 gorgeous young hotties (or more) working, then pass Sue at Cheers, the other Sunny and her friend at Dallas, then work your way up past Yongsun, Yumi, and the famous girl (who worked at Eve, later, for many years) at Tiger bar. Then you'd see who was working at the next few bars, and duck past a transgender or two on the way. Pretty soon, you'd reach the smoking hot Ce Ce up at ABC Club.

I remember when Sue started working in what is now the condemned Texas. She later worked at Cheers. She was so unbelievably cute sitting in the window, it was amazing. I still remember her sitting there, in the Cheers window. She still works days at Moonshine, so many years later. She was also something special.

I'll add a couple more pics from back in the day, mostly circa 2002-2005:

1. The first one is this really hot-bodied lady / mamasan who also "worked" at the bar next to Nymph (which is now called O2, I think). She was a really hot body, as you can somewhat tell from the pic in the red pants, covering her face. Got a HJ from her.

2. The next pic is of the infamous Yumi from Tiger, and later one of the bars around Tiffany near where Kaye and Bean now work. Yumi is with some friend who worked there just one winter, before marrying some Japanese guy, or something. I did them both, multiple times. Yumi was hilariously fun.

3. Next is a bartender from old Polly's Kettle, named Nina. She was Mongolian, and before working Polly's was a freelancer who I slept with one of my first weeks in Korea.

4. Next I'll add a pic of some girl that worked at Tiger briefly around 2002. She wasn't there for sex, but just to meet a guy, obviously. We had dinner and went to another city to meet her mother for a weekend (seriously). We had a sort of short-term relationship, but she disappeared after we ended it.

5. Some random transgender that worked at Royal / VIP.

6. Grainy photo of Giu, who used to work at Royal / VIP, and Tiger.

7. Next, there is this very hot half-Japanese girl who worked across from Polly's Kettle. She was so good looking, and I got 3 pops in overnight with her. Oh, she was great.

8. Cee Cee's gorgeous legs. Amazing woman from Taiwan, with great English, wit, and a firebrand in bed.

9. Some girl I don't remember the name of who worked on the hill in a bar between Capital and Tiger. She just talked, mostly. Got a HJ once.

Garthie1
01-28-19, 17:55
Wow. Thanks for the news. That may be why Happy Days already seems to be closed and both Kay and Cherry have moved to Avant Garde. From what you've said it sounds like they'll have to move somewhere else soon.Could be the end for the famous Bean and Kay. IMO those bars are probably condemned for many years and needed to be torn down.

I would say the girls should just move to another locale, but rent is so expensive in Itaewon that it probably isn't feasible. However, if they're lucky to hold onto one of the few remaining joints, supply and demand will drive up prices.

This Yongsan renovation plan has been quite a few years in the making, not just the Yongsan post but also the growth in Itaewon and down the hill to the river in Seobingo. My wife's parents owned a small lot and house in Seobingo overlooking the river and just recently sold it for $1.5 million. Apartment construction was supposed to occur there several years ago, but that's cooled off now with Moon Jae In in office and now developers are waiting for another good time.

Separately, as far as the girls having large bushes? That wasn't the case, as SeoulSearching pointed out. As posted previously, there were far more bars open between 2000-2010 and a steady rotation of hot K-girls through the hill. Good times, but looks to be the end of an era.

RainMania
01-29-19, 04:54
Could be the end for the famous Bean and Kay. IMO those bars are probably condemned for many years and needed to be torn down.

I would say the girls should just move to another locale, but rent is so expensive in Itaewon that it probably isn't feasible. However, if they're lucky to hold onto one of the few remaining joints, supply and demand will drive up prices.

This Yongsan renovation plan has been quite a few years in the making, not just the Yongsan post but also the growth in Itaewon and down the hill to the river in Seobingo. My wife's parents owned a small lot and house in Seobingo overlooking the river and just recently sold it for $1.5 million. Apartment construction was supposed to occur there several years ago, but that's cooled off now with Moon Jae In in office and now developers are waiting for another good time.

Separately, as far as the girls having large bushes? That wasn't the case, as SeoulSearching pointed out. As posted previously, there were far more bars open between 2000-2010 and a steady rotation of hot K-girls through the hill. Good times, but looks to be the end of an era.They should hopefully move south to osan where the base is, and hopefully train a protege or two. Easier said than done in today's climate but it can be done.

It's not like there isn't a plethora of lonely, horny men by the thousands looking to bust a nut every once in a while. Even MR princesses are now adding pyeongtaek to their list of places.

SeoulSearching
01-29-19, 08:01
Hi all! I'm a senior member with fairly prolific hobbying adventures but I have toned down significantly. One thing I still do enjoy is a great erotic massage building up to a happy ending (nothing more). I looked thru the Seoul section and it looks pretty dead. Is anything available at all? I get such a good service in this area in the US from Korean providers and I've been disappointed in my pursuits in Seoul. Any help would be much appreciated and I will report back any findings.Wondering if you have had any luck finding anything?

I am over 60 now, and it is becoming more difficult for me to do more than talk with the younger / prettier ones. I was never tall, dark, and handsome (more like short, round, and stumpy) but having grey hair isn't making life any easier.

I only get back to Seoul for a few weeks here and there. Spend most of my time outside of Korea.

Garthie1
01-29-19, 08:04
OK, now you have me really curious. I know Candy and but I'm not sure who you are talking about, unless you are talking about the gal who has been at VIP forever that is currently the main renter? She seems pretty quite, but then will burst into a huge laugh.Yep, that's her. A little bit of pudge now, but still Dee size naturals and pretty face. She'd burst into laughter and it was so contagious, it'd make you laugh, too. She's so much fun, I just enjoyed talking to her and listening to some of her stories- man does she have some! I could write a book from it and it'd be a bestseller.

She told me about one dude that liked getting fucked up the ass with a strap-on. She complained how much work it was cause she wasn't used to thrusting! She went into other detail about threesomes, London bridge with two Russian dudes, pulling dildoes out of dude's asses and how bad it smelled and so forth! Just hilarious stuff from her experiences.

Of course, not always hilarious with dirty dudes, assholes, and downright criminals roaming the hill, but it comes with the territory. As long as we've been on the hill, you get to know quite a few of the girls and can empathize with them.

Candy, her friend, works (or worked) at VIP and also Tiffany's on the main strip. She's funny, too, and has a nice body. I found this funny pic of her from Expat Hell's blog.

As far as the transvestite story, same thing happened to me. It was late morning around 0700 or so and this 'good looking' gal asked me to buy a drink. I thought 'Jim, don't do it, there's something missing, there's fellas dancing and fellas kissing!' Anyway, I took him / her to my room on the hilltop and found out too late it was a post-op! Uggh. Money not well spent. Live and learn.

SeoulSearching
01-29-19, 08:45
Yep, that's her. A little bit of pudge now, but still Dee size naturals and pretty face. She'd burst into laughter and it was so contagious, it'd make you laugh, too. She's so much fun, I just enjoyed talking to her and listening to some of her stories- man does she have some! I could write a book from it and it'd be a bestseller.

She told me about one dude that liked getting fucked up the ass with a strap-on. She complained how much work it was cause she wasn't used to thrusting! She went into other detail about threesomes, London bridge with two Russian dudes, pulling dildoes out of dude's asses and how bad it smelled and so forth! Just hilarious stuff from her experiences.

Of course, not always hilarious with dirty dudes, assholes, and downright criminals roaming the hill, but it comes with the territory. As long as we've been on the hill, you get to know quite a few of the girls and can empathize with them.

Candy, her friend, works (or worked) at VIP and also Tiffany's on the main strip. She's funny, too, and has a nice body. I found this funny pic of her from Expat Hell's blog..Oh that pic! Happy Parent's Day? Priceless!

Thanks for posting that. I'm going to have to go see if I can dig up the original from that blog. Is it recent?

LeahChoi
01-29-19, 09:43
There was a bit of fight and blog was closed about 4 years ago. Here is archived version.


Oh that pic! Happy Parent's Day? Priceless!

Thanks for posting that. I'm going to have to go see if I can dig up the original from that blog. Is it recent?

Garthie1
01-29-19, 16:52
Oh that pic! Happy Parent's Day? Priceless!

Thanks for posting that. I'm going to have to go see if I can dig up the original from that blog. Is it recent?That pic is from a few years back, 2014 or so. The blog isn't around anymore, he ran it for 10 years or so and shut it down in the last year.

SeoulSearching
01-30-19, 00:31
Leah and Garthie, and idea in a month / date for that? I have found the blog. Links are deleted. Thanks.

Christian G
01-31-19, 09:00
First time in Seoul and first time in S. Korea.

Friday around 7:30 pm we went to Cheon-ho (cheon-ho station exit3), only 12/15 windows open, not much beauty around, only 3 girls called us, but they looked old and ugly, also asked for 100.000 krw, no thanks, we did not try to bargain the price down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwAJjUaoqZs

Saturday went to Hooker Hill (itaewon station exit 3), tried a couple of bar like Avant Garde and VIP both places have 3/4 ladies only, all were over 40 yo and asked for 200.000 krw LOL, WTF! No thanks again, perhaps they tried to scam us? LOL.

Sunday around 6:30 pm we went to Gireum Station (exit 10), and find a small and dark alley in front.

The alleys are very dark, all doors are closed and have bench outside, only few mamasan sit outside, no other customer apart us, the place seems dead.

Almost all mamasan ignored us, we checked a couple of brothels then finally we got lucky and found a brothel with 2 nice girls.

Mamasan asked 100.000 krw but come down at 80.000.

My friend picked the young one, bad choice for him, she asked 20.000 tip for BBBJ, with this tip BBFS / CIP was also included.

My girl was around 35 yo with slim body.

Took off our shoes, paid the mama then go downstair. Tiny rooms but not looks dirty.

The girl went to take her stuff and back in the room naked. Slim body, small boobs, no baby damage, nice ass, hairy pussy. I was already naked too waiting for her.

She put a bit of lube in her pussy, clean my cock with some wet wipes and gave me a quick BBBJ, not bad but she was in hurry to put the condom and move to the sex.

Fuck mish then doggy, she was very mechanical with alot of fake moans, anyway she have a nice ass and let me fuck her pussy hard. Cum in the dom while I fucked.

She clean me quickly and bye bye.

Finally I had sex in Korea. Worth it? No, but I'm happy that I visit a new country and checked the RLDs.

LeahChoi
01-31-19, 10:13
There's 2 ways, 1st download the picture and put it on Google reverse images search, you will get a lot of relevant pictures and blogs. Originally it was taken by one French photographer in 2004. Another way is to put "expathell" on the way back machine, which is a virtual storage for archived sources. Since it is "Parent's day", try to check all posts for June and July. Mostly links are working. Only a few links got a plug on it.


Leah and Garthie, and idea in a month / date for that? I have found the blog. Links are deleted. Thanks.

Wolfpack23
01-31-19, 14:24
At Christian G.

Finally some new current info! Great post man.

Seems like everyone here just wants to reminisce and talk about their experiences from 10.20 years ago. Sheesh.

SeoulSearching
02-01-19, 17:08
At Christian G.

Finally some new current info! Great post man.

Seems like everyone here just wants to reminisce and talk about their experiences from 10.20 years ago. Sheesh.Wow, a full 2 posts, and you're already complaining about the people here who have experience and know where things are. Yeah, we're going to be tripping over ourselves to give you advice.

Usually, this forum just sits here with not much posted.

There just isn't much excitement in Korea, anymore. It's overpriced, stuck-up, and boring.

Garthie1
02-01-19, 17:43
Seems like everyone here just wants to reminisce and talk about their experiences from 10.20 years ago. Sheesh.All this site talks about now are online escorts from MR and independents. No more posts about this girl from RLD or that girl from the hill. Old timers just can't bear the thought of getting hosed paying 500,000 won. Any number of RLD's in Yongjugol, Dongducheon, Miari, or even Hooker Hill can do it for a fraction.


Another way is to put "expathell" on the way back machine, which is a virtual storage for archived sources.

You can pull it up from the way back machine. Last post was 2017. Ran from 2011-2017, pretty funny blog and cynical of silly things foreigners experience in Korea. Unfortunate that he stopped blogging, but like the hill, all things must end.

SeoulSearching
02-01-19, 18:04
By the way, see this video and go about 3 minutes in for a look at the heyday on the Hill, early 2000's. It was this busy most every night. And you'll see a lot of the girls working there.

I remember several of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=27jd5f-aeP4

Garthie1
02-01-19, 23:41
By the way, see this video and go about 3 minutes in for a look at the heyday on the Hill, early 2000's. It was this busy most every night. And you'll see a lot of the girls working there.

I remember several of them.

Woof. Korean women don't like being filmed without consent, most don't want family or friends to know they're sucking dick for a living. Others, not so much.

Didn't recognize any of the girls, but I didn't frequent the hill with regularity until the second time I came, in 2003. In 2000, we had to have passes to come down from Dongducheon, even for a day. Besides, it was so readily available there outside post that you didn't need to go elsewhere.

SeoulSearching
02-02-19, 13:52
Just wanted to update that I did find the larger version of that photo. Thanks for all your help, guys. A google image search eventually got me there.

KgirlPower
02-02-19, 19:27
Its amazing what's out there if have some korean language skils.

I've been checking out that website opstar that one fat chick's massage friend linked and it miracously isn't blocked by korean firewall so without vpn you can access everything. And so you can searh by handjob places, blow job places, FS, massage FS places, massage BJ only places, offietels, outcall hoes, incall hoes. And prices at your level ie. 50 to 250 bucks depending on the location like gangnam or other areas like hongdae etc.


Wow, a full 2 posts, and you're already complaining about the people here who have experience and know where things are. Yeah, we're going to be tripping over ourselves to give you advice.

Usually, this forum just sits here with not much posted.

There just isn't much excitement in Korea, anymore. It's overpriced, stuck-up, and boring.

KgirlPower
02-02-19, 19:34
Any country you goto its always total dumps with the over the hill grannies, fatties, or young chicks who are country bumpkins. Usually no showers, disgusiting bed with wet spots from some other dudes semen or sweat, chicks with dried up leftover dried up semen and spit on their bodies and pussies since only wiped it with a towel or KFC wetnapes. Gross! First time I went I vomited out of disgust and felt violated. Left and never went back to those literal shit holes.


First time in Seoul and first time in S. Korea.

Friday around 7:30 pm we went to Cheon-ho (cheon-ho station exit3), only 12/15 windows open, not much beauty around, only 3 girls called us, but they looked old and ugly, also asked for 100.000 krw, no thanks, we did not try to bargain the price down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwAJjUaoqZs

Saturday went to Hooker Hill (itaewon station exit 3), tried a couple of bar like Avant Garde and VIP both places have 3/4 ladies only, all were over 40 yo and asked for 200.000 krw LOL, WTF! No thanks again, perhaps they tried to scam us? LOL.

Sunday around 6:30 pm we went to Gireum Station (exit 10), and find a small and dark alley in front.

The alleys are very dark, all doors are closed and have bench outside, only few mamasan sit outside, no other customer apart us, the place seems dead.

Almost all mamasan ignored us, we checked a couple of brothels then finally we got lucky and found a brothel with 2 nice girls.

Mamasan asked 100.000 krw but come down at 80.000.

My friend picked the young one, bad choice for him, she asked 20.000 tip for BBBJ, with this tip BBFS / CIP was also included.

My girl was around 35 yo with slim body.

Took off our shoes, paid the mama then go downstair. Tiny rooms but not looks dirty.

The girl went to take her stuff and back in the room naked. Slim body, small boobs, no baby damage, nice ass, hairy pussy. I was already naked too waiting for her.

She put a bit of lube in her pussy, clean my cock with some wet wipes and gave me a quick BBBJ, not bad but she was in hurry to put the condom and move to the sex.

Fuck mish then doggy, she was very mechanical with alot of fake moans, anyway she have a nice ass and let me fuck her pussy hard. Cum in the dom while I fucked.

She clean me quickly and bye bye.

Finally I had sex in Korea. Worth it? No, but I'm happy that I visit a new country and checked the RLDs.

RainMania
02-02-19, 23:38
Any country you goto its always total dumps with the over the hill grannies, fatties, or young chicks who are country bumpkins. Usually no showers, disgusiting bed with wet spots from some other dudes semen or sweat, chicks with dried up leftover dried up semen and spit on their bodies and pussies since only wiped it with a towel or KFC wetnapes. Gross! First time I went I vomited out of disgust and felt violated. Left and never went back to those literal shit holes.As opposed to paying some SE Asian girl 300 bucks for a pop when she would be charging you a tenth of that (for multiple pops) in her own country, which you could probably travel to for less than 300 bucks? Or dropping 300 plus motel fee and an additional taxi fee for a girl who'll be 2-3 hrs late anyway? What about dropping 300 bucks for CBJ and CFS? Or perhaps paying some guy 150-180 bucks (because that's his cut) for introducing you to that little spinner who'll be gone in 30-40 minutes anyway?

I imagine most mongerers aren't there to marvel at the decor when we visit RLDs, our attention is strictly elsewhere. Joints in Cheonho require you to shower before and after service, aim Miari it's oprional, but they will let you shower if you wish, same as on the hill and in Suwon.

SeoulSearching
02-03-19, 00:36
What is the interest in places like the hill? You can pick who you want, the price is better, and if you don't like someone, you can walk away without having spent anything.

Agencies put up fake photos and charge the moon, only to deliver something you may not want. Then what? Pay your hard-earned cash and "take one for the team?

No thanks!

And for me, picking some hoe out of a lineup, who is on the clock and whom I have a limited ability to converse with (if she is even willing to) is as mechanical as a Swedish suck machine.

At least on the hill, they speak a fair amount of English.

LeahChoi
02-03-19, 03:57
One fat chick's massage friend also told me, be careful of shady places with illegal Thai or Chinese (it is raid period to 3.31), especially the ones with double barber pole on entrance side.


Its amazing what's out there if have some korean language skils.

I've been checking out that website opstar that one fat chick's massage friend linked and it miracously isn't blocked by korean firewall so without vpn you can access everything. And so you can searh by handjob places, blow job places, FS, massage FS places, massage BJ only places, offietels, outcall hoes, incall hoes. And prices at your level ie. 50 to 250 bucks depending on the location like gangnam or other areas like hongdae etc.

Christian G
02-03-19, 13:12
Any country you goto its always total dumps with the over the hill grannies, fatties, or young chicks who are country bumpkins. Usually no showers, disgusiting bed with wet spots from some other dudes semen or sweat, chicks with dried up leftover dried up semen and spit on their bodies and pussies since only wiped it with a towel or KFC wetnapes. Gross! First time I went I vomited out of disgust and felt violated. Left and never went back to those literal shit holes.What a stupid and useless post you wrote. Find a hobby if you don't know how to spend your time. I don't travel 10.000 km to pay 300 USD for a shitty service, I live in Europe and I can have young south american pussy for 50 euro and no holes barred, I can have 20 yo stunning east european girls for 50 in FKK or for less.

I went to S. Korea (and is better I don't post what I think about your country) for sightseening and was curious about RLD, I just tried. Sure I'll never go back to this country. If I want a sex holiday in Asia I just go to Thailand as usual. Now I'm Japan, next month I'll be in Cuba and between 3 months in Thai and Singapore, so I'm busy and I don't have more time to waste with you.

If you don't like my post just don't read, I don't give a fuck to your stupid opinion. You won the ignored listed, idiot.

KgirlPower
02-03-19, 19:27
I haven't gotten close to the rip offs you seem to have had to feel that jaded. I've probabbly banged over a 1,000 girls in my carrier and I can honestly only remember 3 who were rip offs. One was a female version of jabba the hut compared to her ad pic, one looked old enough to make queen elizabeth look young compared to her ad pic, and one where I had bigger boobs then her compared to her ad pic.


As opposed to paying some SE Asian girl 300 bucks for a pop when she would be charging you a tenth of that (for multiple pops) in her own country, which you could probably travel to for less than 300 bucks? Or dropping 300 plus motel fee and an additional taxi fee for a girl who'll be 2-3 hrs late anyway? What about dropping 300 bucks for CBJ and CFS? Or perhaps paying some guy 150-180 bucks (because that's his cut) for introducing you to that little spinner who'll be gone in 30-40 minutes anyway?

I imagine most mongerers aren't there to marvel at the decor when we visit RLDs, our attention is strictly elsewhere. Joints in Cheonho require you to shower before and after service, aim Miari it's oprional, but they will let you shower if you wish, same as on the hill and in Suwon.

KgirlPower
02-03-19, 19:33
Same back in the US. Most clients and the kgirl can't communicate so its all about the service and to the point of being a repetitius mechanical routine. I often get feedback from guys who talk about a girl saying how cute or innocent the girl is because of the silence and cute smiles etc. When in reality the girl is foul mouthed and smart asses who think the Us clients are dumb asses and easy marks when you can communicate with them in their language.


What is the interest in places like the hill? You can pick who you want, the price is better, and if you don't like someone, you can walk away without having spent anything.

Agencies put up fake photos and charge the moon, only to deliver something you may not want. Then what? Pay your hard-earned cash and "take one for the team?

No thanks!

And for me, picking some hoe out of a lineup, who is on the clock and whom I have a limited ability to converse with (if she is even willing to) is as mechanical as a Swedish suck machine.

At least on the hill, they speak a fair amount of English.

KgirlPower
02-03-19, 19:38
My man, I wasn't trying to insult you like I was telling you your some dumb retard for checking out RLDs. It was a just question and observation to you and other RLD visitors on why visit them when they are so filthy. Makes no sense cause I find no benefits whatsover other then being cheap. And Korea is not my country so I could care less what you think about it. LOL.


What a stupid and useless post you wrote. Find a hobby if you don't know how to spend your time. I don't travel 10.000 km to pay 300 USD for a shitty service, I live in Europe and I can have young south american pussy for 50 euro and no holes barred, I can have 20 yo stunning east european girls for 50 in FKK or for less.

I went to S. Korea (and is better I don't post what I think about your country) for sightseening and was curious about RLD, I just tried. Sure I'll never go back to this country. If I want a sex holiday in Asia I just go to Thailand as usual. Now I'm Japan, next month I'll be in Cuba and between 3 months in Thai and Singapore, so I'm busy and I don't have more time to waste with you.

If you don't like my post just don't read, I don't give a fuck to your stupid opinion. You won the ignored listed, idiot.

RainMania
02-03-19, 23:11
I haven't gotten close to the rip offs you seem to have had to feel that jaded. I've probabbly banged over a 1,000 girls in my carrier and I can honestly only remember 3 who were rip offs. One was a female version of jabba the hut compared to her ad pic, one looked old enough to make queen elizabeth look young compared to her ad pic, and one where I had bigger boobs then her compared to her ad pic.You're not getting it.

95% of postings on MR (and backpage before it) are ripoffs. And you didn't even bother to address the things I actually stated, because they're accurate to the bone. Why should I pay 300+ for one pop? Give me a legitimate reason why that sounds like a good idea. If you think paying 300+ is ok just so you can fuck on a clean, cum-free bed, in a cum-free room, man have I got some things to tell you about motels in Korea and their housekeeping practices!

Have you ever wondered why so many postings on MR are pictures of women from SE Asia? It is relatively cheap and easy for them to get here. $1000 will get them return flights, acommodation and food for 1-2 weeks (maybe even 3 weeks). And then gullible mongerers like you line up to pay 300 a pop (haha!) for something you can get for a fraction of the price IF you just used your imagination a tiny bit. Only takes them a day or two to break even. These women are here selling snow to eskimos, and you're the Eskimo.

Let's say you have a K-fetish and are intent on getting K-Pussy no matter what. If you live in the country, it only takes a few weeks / months of language classes before you should be able to navigate the endless local sites advertising everything from BBBJ-CIM for 40 bucks, to relay services (2 pops, 2 different girls) for 150-200, to all kinds that are on offer for much less than 300+ a pop. Sure, not all establishments will entertain you as a foreigner, but plenty will. But noooo, gullible Eskimo here wants to buy snow at a premium price from scammers literally digging that snow right in front of his eyes!

Ok, you don't live in Korea, you're just visiting and don't speak a lick of the language. You're SOL visiting a country so difficult to find quality and VFM P4 P in. Heck, even K-guys are flooding SE Asia in their thousands by the hour looking for poon that won’t cost an arm and a leg. And these guys weren’t even paying 300+ per pop in their country (more like 80-150)! Best to follow in their footsteps and do the same. Or you could shell out 300+ for sub-par service from that same SE Asian girl you would've poked in Bangkok / Manila / Bali / Pattaya for 30 bucks ST or 50 overnight.

But what do I know?

RainMania
02-04-19, 03:51
And then you know what the fucked up irony in all this is?

The SE Asian girls coming here aren't charging koreans 300+ per shot. Mind you, most of them don’t get bites from korean customers, because why would they? Ice...Eskimo.

But for the ones that do get the occasional bite, Koreans are paying half or less FOR THE SAME GIRLS you’re forking out 300+ for LOL! So you can't even use the languge excuse here. But you're supposed to be happy getting scammed because of your gullibility?

KgirlPower
02-04-19, 19:43
You don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

Like I mentioned its the perspective. You keep arguing you can get cheap pussy but dumb ignorant schmucks. Ie your eskimos are paying 300 and getting rip offed. But if you are used to paying 300 and that's all you know its not a rip off. Its like koreans buying a Armani exchange t shirt in Korea. Where armani charges 50 bucks for it while me in america are used to paying 20 bucks since that's what armani charges in the US so to koreans they don't think its a rip off since that's the normal price in Korea while me who is used to paying 20 in US think koreans are morons for paying 50.

But end of the day whatever the price. Ie a 50 buck vietnamese chick or 300 korean chick if the girl isn't hot but some fat jabba hutt mutated fatso then whatever the price the guy pays he is a dumbshit eskimo.


You're not getting it.

95% of postings on MR (and backpage before it) are ripoffs. And you didn't even bother to address the things I actually stated, because they're accurate to the bone. Why should I pay 300+ for one pop? Give me a legitimate reason why that sounds like a good idea. If you think paying 300+ is ok just so you can fuck on a clean, cum-free bed, in a cum-free room, man have I got some things to tell you about motels in Korea and their housekeeping practices!

Have you ever wondered why so many postings on MR are pictures of women from SE Asia? It is relatively cheap and easy for them to get here. $1000 will get them return flights, acommodation and food for 1-2 weeks (maybe even 3 weeks). And then gullible mongerers like you line up to pay 300 a pop (haha!) for something you can get for a fraction of the price IF you just used your imagination a tiny bit. Only takes them a day or two to break even. These women are here selling snow to eskimos, and you're the Eskimo.

Let's say you have a K-fetish and are intent on getting K-Pussy no matter what. If you live in the country, it only takes a few weeks / months of language classes before you should be able to navigate the endless local sites advertising everything from BBBJ-CIM for 40 bucks, to relay services (2 pops, 2 different girls) for 150-200, to all kinds that are on offer for much less than 300+ a pop. Sure, not all establishments will entertain you as a foreigner, but plenty will. But noooo, gullible Eskimo here wants to buy snow at a premium price from scammers literally digging that snow right in front of his eyes!

Ok, you don't live in Korea, you're just visiting and don't speak a lick of the language. You're SOL visiting a country so difficult to find quality and VFM P4 P in. Heck, even K-guys are flooding SE Asia in their thousands by the hour looking for poon that wont cost an arm and a leg. And these guys werent even paying 300+ per pop in their country (more like 80-150)! Best to follow in their footsteps and do the same. Or you could shell out 300+ for sub-par service from that same SE Asian girl you would've poked in Bangkok / Manila / Bali / Pattaya for 30 bucks ST or 50 overnight.

But what do I know?

KgirlPower
02-04-19, 19:54
I see them all over. But while I like a good handjob etc I also want a good deep tissue masssage. Do these places usually give good massage like you?

Also, sometimes I see service called "regular massage" and "aroma massage" or "sports massage" what is the difference between them?


One fat chick's massage friend also told me, be careful of shady places with illegal Thai or Chinese (it is raid period to 3.31), especially the ones with double barber pole on entrance side.

RainMania
02-04-19, 22:34
You don't seem to understand what I'm saying.

Like I mentioned its the perspective. You keep arguing you can get cheap pussy but dumb ignorant schmucks. Ie your eskimos are paying 300 and getting rip offed. But if you are used to paying 300 and that's all you know its not a rip off. Its like koreans buying a Armani exchange t shirt in Korea. Where armani charges 50 bucks for it while me in america are used to paying 20 bucks since that's what armani charges in the US so to koreans they don't think its a rip off since that's the normal price in Korea while me who is used to paying 20 in US think koreans are morons for paying 50.

But end of the day whatever the price. Ie a 50 buck vietnamese chick or 300 korean chick if the girl isn't hot but some fat jabba hutt mutated fatso then whatever the price the guy pays he is a dumbshit eskimo.You're comparing sand and snow and arguing since snow costs a premium in the desert, sand should also cost a premium in the desert too. Not only that, you then travel to a snowy place and insist since you're not used to getting snow at regular snowy-place prices, it must be mentally ok for you to pay desert prices for snow, even though you're already standing in 10 feet of snow in the snowy place.

Now, the local snow vendors have seen this and are thinking 'fuck me silly, it's Christmas in February! And they flock to sell you the same snow other locals buy at half price, but for you they'll give you a special deal of DOUBLE PRICE.

Not only that, they sell you the worst kind of snow, the kind that looks ok, but only lasts 30 mins once you open the packaging. Essentially the snow nobody wants. While locals get the kind of snow that not only looks better but tastes better and lasts longer, for half the price you're paying for your shitty snow.

Even worse, the locals aren't even giving you local snow! They're importing shitty snow from an even snowier place for pennies, and are then selling you that shitty snow for a premium price. Other locals have caught on, and have realised they can actually get better snow by going to that extremely snowy place while spending considerably less (remember, they were already spending half as much than you originally).

But to you, it doesn't matter, because you're from the desert. And desert prices are the guideline you should strictly adhere to wherever you go. Heck, you should even pay desert prices for water while sailing the Amazon! Better still, adhere to desert prices when buying leaves from the rainforest.

LeahChoi
02-05-19, 03:02
In my eyes, it is not a proper etiquette to discuss another provider on public and telling others how wonderful I am, so no comment to the places you are used to. All I care about, is why I can post all kinds of different stuffs but can't share my own website's link. That's sad.

If you're curious about massage types, Google it.


I see them all over. But while I like a good handjob etc I also want a good deep tissue masssage. Do these places usually give good massage like you?

Also, sometimes I see service called "regular massage" and "aroma massage" or "sports massage" what is the difference between them?

ShimShimHeyo
02-05-19, 05:58
Even worse, the locals aren't even giving you local snow! They're importing shitty snow from an even snowier place for pennies, and are then selling you that shitty snow for a premium price. Other locals have caught on, and have realised they can actually get better snow by going to that extremely snowy place while spending considerably less (remember, they were already spending half as much than you originally).Absolutely spot on.

SeoulSearching
02-05-19, 16:00
Wow, the entire side of Itaewon, from the police station to the fire department (excluding Starbucks and the corner building and FD is being condemned. Major face lift for main Street.

Right now, outside of Itaewon (and that's just about dead), I would suggest seoul-massage. Kr for good service. In Itaewon, there is a bar up at the top of the hill, and right of the motel about 50 m that has some real young hotties working in there. I know some of you guys are a fan of Bean and her crew, but I don't have the time for Miss Midget, the fat floppy-boob chick, or the one with bad teeth some of you like. And that's OK. More time for you. More of my money is going to Korean providers that also allow waygooks. Have no time for the ridiculous 200 k an hour + services, either.

KgirlPower
02-05-19, 21:55
Damn man. Based on your logic. All the guys in US, Korea, vietman, thailand and you are dumpshit eskimos because theres some black ho banger in Ethiopia langhing at us because he knows he can bang some chicks for 2 cents! And then here's some tribesman in the Amazon jungle thinking we are all retards because he can bang a hot chick walking around naked with a basket of wild berries for payment!

What part of the armani example you not understand!


You're comparing sand and snow and arguing since snow costs a premium in the desert, sand should also cost a premium in the desert too. Not only that, you then travel to a snowy place and insist since you're not used to getting snow at regular snowy-place prices, it must be mentally ok for you to pay desert prices for snow, even though you're already standing in 10 feet of snow in the snowy place.

Now, the local snow vendors have seen this and are thinking 'fuck me silly, it's Christmas in February! And they flock to sell you the same snow other locals buy at half price, but for you they'll give you a special deal of DOUBLE PRICE.

Not only that, they sell you the worst kind of snow, the kind that looks ok, but only lasts 30 mins once you open the packaging. Essentially the snow nobody wants. While locals get the kind of snow that not only looks better but tastes better and lasts longer, for half the price you're paying for your shitty snow.

Even worse, the locals aren't even giving you local snow! They're importing shitty snow from an even snowier place for pennies, and are then selling you that shitty snow for a premium price. Other locals have caught on, and have realised they can actually get better snow by going to that extremely snowy place while spending considerably less (remember, they were already spending half as much than you originally).

But to you, it doesn't matter, because you're from the desert. And desert prices are the guideline you should strictly adhere to wherever you go. Heck, you should even pay desert prices for water while sailing the Amazon! Better still, adhere to desert prices when buying leaves from the rainforest.

KgirlPower
02-05-19, 22:03
English definition I already know. But alot of massage services in Korea has these: "Jun. Tong massage" in korean hangul which google translates to "regular massage". So hows this different from aroma? I know aroma has oil so is "Jun. Tong massage" just no oil?


In my eyes, it is not a proper etiquette to discuss another provider on public and telling others how wonderful I am, so no comment to the places you are used to. All I care about, is why I can post all kinds of different stuffs but can't share my own website's link. That's sad.

If you're curious about massage types, Google it.

KgirlPower
02-05-19, 22:10
Got a error message saying you don't accept pms.


Wow, the entire side of Itaewon, from the police station to the fire department (excluding Starbucks and the corner building and FD is being condemned. Major face lift for main Street.

Right now, outside of Itaewon (and that's just about dead), I would suggest seoul-massage. Kr for good service. In Itaewon, there is a bar up at the top of the hill, and right of the motel about 50 m that has some real young hotties working in there. I know some of you guys are a fan of Bean and her crew, but I don't have the time for Miss Midget, the fat floppy-boob chick, or the one with bad teeth some of you like. And that's OK. More time for you. More of my money is going to Korean providers that also allow waygooks. Have no time for the ridiculous 200 k an hour + services, either.

KgirlPower
02-05-19, 22:24
If these are the quality of the ladies back in the days that you and Rainmania are always harping how good and cheap they were. Excpet 1 mamasan since can't see her face or clear view of her body, I rather jerk off.

If these girls were in the US they starve to death from no business. You guys need to see US kgirls in cities like SF, DC, LA and see what 300 gets you there. You might kill yourself on all the money you flushed down the toilet.


OK, now you have me really curious. I know Candy and but I'm not sure who you are talking about, unless you are talking about the gal who has been at VIP forever that is currently the main renter? She seems pretty quite, but then will burst into a huge laugh. I won't say her name, because that'll get me in trouble. I know her very well (Candy, also). I remember Candy's first week, actually. Candy used to be overweight, when she started, BTW. She lost it, and never gained it back.

Anyway, If that's her, yeah, she was ridiculously exotically hot back in the early 2000's. She was actually the first lady I sat down with in the back, and was offered a BJ from when I first came here. I wasn't sure I wanted to pay it, and left. Was with her many times after that, though. I ended up at the top of the hill in Hobby Horse with a transgender named "Baby", who I didn't figure out was a transgender until after. Horrible story that gives me nightmares. That was my introduction to "the hill."

Do you know the bartender at VIP? That bartender was 10-pro looking material, and is still attractive. One of my biggest regrets is that I didn't pony-up and do her silly, fifteen plus years ago. She was always busy or some such, so I never got the chance. She doesn't do anything but bartend, and hasn't for years, so that ship has sailed. OMG, was she hot, though. Perfect body.

I have spent so many millions of won in Royal / VIP, over the years. I'm trying to think all of the girls I've been with in there. I can't remember them all. The current renter whose name I cannot say, Candy, Giu, Sooyeon, Annie, Sunny, this hot little number who was a golfer that skipped off to England, and those are just a very small few that I can remember.

Man, back in the day, there was so many extremely hot ladies working on "the hill. " Hot and clean. It's really depressing what little is left of it all. You could start at VIP and see 3 gorgeous young hotties (or more) working, then pass Sue at Cheers, the other Sunny and her friend at Dallas, then work your way up past Yongsun, Yumi, and the famous girl (who worked at Eve, later, for many years) at Tiger bar. Then you'd see who was working at the next few bars, and duck past a transgender or two on the way. Pretty soon, you'd reach the smoking hot Ce Ce up at ABC Club.

I remember when Sue started working in what is now the condemned Texas. She later worked at Cheers. She was so unbelievably cute sitting in the window, it was amazing. I still remember her sitting there, in the Cheers window. She still works days at Moonshine, so many years later. She was also something special.

I'll add a couple more pics from back in the day, mostly circa 2002-2005:

1. The first one is this really hot-bodied lady / mamasan who also "worked" at the bar next to Nymph (which is now called O2, I think). She was a really hot body, as you can somewhat tell from the pic in the red pants, covering her face. Got a HJ from her.

2. The next pic is of the infamous Yumi from Tiger, and later one of the bars around Tiffany near where Kaye and Bean now work. Yumi is with some friend who worked there just one winter, before marrying some Japanese guy, or something. I did them both, multiple times. Yumi was hilariously fun.

3. Next is a bartender from old Polly's Kettle, named Nina. She was Mongolian, and before working Polly's was a freelancer who I slept with one of my first weeks in Korea.

4. Next I'll add a pic of some girl that worked at Tiger briefly around 2002. She wasn't there for sex, but just to meet a guy, obviously. We had dinner and went to another city to meet her mother for a weekend (seriously). We had a sort of short-term relationship, but she disappeared after we ended it.

5. Some random transgender that worked at Royal / VIP.

6. Grainy photo of Giu, who used to work at Royal / VIP, and Tiger.

7. Next, there is this very hot half-Japanese girl who worked across from Polly's Kettle. She was so good looking, and I got 3 pops in overnight with her. Oh, she was great.

8. Cee Cee's gorgeous legs. Amazing woman from Taiwan, with great English, wit, and a firebrand in bed.

9. Some girl I don't remember the name of who worked on the hill in a bar between Capital and Tiger. She just talked, mostly. Got a HJ once.

KgirlPower
02-05-19, 22:44
I wanted to ask about your service and the options you mentioned. Can you PM me with more detail about your session. I can recieve but just can't reply.

Thanks.


In my eyes, it is not a proper etiquette to discuss another provider on public and telling others how wonderful I am, so no comment to the places you are used to. All I care about, is why I can post all kinds of different stuffs but can't share my own website's link. That's sad.

If you're curious about massage types, Google it.

SeoulSearching
02-06-19, 01:04
Got a error message saying you don't accept pms.Sorry, I am not currently a paying member. Will top-up as soon as I pick up one of those disposable credit cards, though.

I think the type of business you are looking for is going to be the lady at seoul-massage dot kr in Seoul (it has a dash between the words). I think you will get your monies worth from that high-quality massage, with a loving set of hands that will take you to the moon.

LeahChoi
02-06-19, 04:23
In aroma they'll ask you undress, because of oil.


English definition I already know. But alot of massage services in Korea has these: "Jun. Tong massage" in korean hangul which google translates to "regular massage". So hows this different from aroma? I know aroma has oil so is "Jun. Tong massage" just no oil?

LovinAsia
02-06-19, 06:08
I've probabbly banged over a 1,000 girls in my carrier.But you can't afford a $20 membership? LOL.

KgirlPower
02-06-19, 09:36
Not that anything I post here or anywhere is fact but are just purely for entertainment purposes and chance for an actual event is purely coincedance. Just want to state that disclaimer first.

So getting back to the pay for memebership. I don't like giving any info such as credit card, or money order, or anything. Even if crypto currency where something could be tied that I paid for membership at a sex site. Call me paranoid.


But you can't afford a $20 membership? LOL.

KgirlPower
02-06-19, 09:37
And only to another senior member or paid member and not a regular member.

Thanks.


Sorry, I am not currently a paying member. Will top-up as soon as I pick up one of those disposable credit cards, though.

I think the type of business you are looking for is going to be the lady at seoul-massage dot kr in Seoul (it has a dash between the words). I think you will get your monies worth from that high-quality massage, with a loving set of hands that will take you to the moon.

RainMania
02-06-19, 23:56
Damn man. Based on your logic. All the guys in US, Korea, vietman, thailand and you are dumpshit eskimos because theres some black ho banger in Ethiopia langhing at us because he knows he can bang some chicks for 2 cents! And then here's some tribesman in the Amazon jungle thinking we are all retards because he can bang a hot chick walking around naked with a basket of wild berries for payment!

What part of the armani example you not understand!The perception? Haha! I think you mean the delusion.

That's why it's so easy to scam Johns like you, as long as you're tricked into thinking you're getting a good deal then it's all good.

Sounds like you spend too much time thinking with the little head and not the big one. I've run out of analogies to explain why it's not a good idea to fork out a weekend's worth of poon for 30 mins of action. Especially when you can literally fly there (for the same money) in literally the time it takes a train to go from Seoul to Busan.

This is the last reply I'll be posting on this topic. As long as you're happy with your delusions, so be it. But when the penny starts to drop, remember I told you so.

KgirlPower
02-08-19, 17:48
And see what I'm missing!!


The perception? Haha! I think you mean the delusion.

That's why it's so easy to scam Johns like you, as long as you're tricked into thinking you're getting a good deal then it's all good.

Sounds like you spend too much time thinking with the little head and not the big one. I've run out of analogies to explain why it's not a good idea to fork out a weekend's worth of poon for 30 mins of action. Especially when you can literally fly there (for the same money) in literally the time it takes a train to go from Seoul to Busan.

This is the last reply I'll be posting on this topic. As long as you're happy with your delusions, so be it. But when the penny starts to drop, remember I told you so.

Garthie1
02-09-19, 04:57
I can have 20 yo stunning east european girls for 50 in FKK or for less.FKK Stuttgart. And how. The only shitty thing is that you need to wear condoms there, don't think I would trust them otherwise.

Korean girls on the other hand? I go out of my way to blow up in them, so why I like them so much.

KgirlPower
02-09-19, 17:10
I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.

Here's her instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana.

If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.

Any info if she's a hooker?


The perception? Haha! I think you mean the delusion.

That's why it's so easy to scam Johns like you, as long as you're tricked into thinking you're getting a good deal then it's all good.

Sounds like you spend too much time thinking with the little head and not the big one. I've run out of analogies to explain why it's not a good idea to fork out a weekend's worth of poon for 30 mins of action. Especially when you can literally fly there (for the same money) in literally the time it takes a train to go from Seoul to Busan.

This is the last reply I'll be posting on this topic. As long as you're happy with your delusions, so be it. But when the penny starts to drop, remember I told you so.

RainMania
02-09-19, 20:30
I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.

Here's her instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana.

If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.

Any info if she's a hooker?Pointless adventure IMO. She would be asking for korean (foreigner) rates, IF she's hooking at all. Boracay is one of the worst options in the country for tourist P4 P, especially since the shutdown and subsequent reopening. Better to check out Cebu if you want better chances of poon with your time at the beach.

There are infinitely better looking filipina girls on IG that will spend the night with you for anything from 50-500 k won. But IG is one of the more expensive methods of doing it. Tinder, tagged, MeetMe, WeChat, FilipinoCupid, DateinAsia and PinaLove will yield thousands of readily available women in any age range you want. Look up the Philippines section of this site for tips and etiquette.

And when you're on ground (in Cebu or any major city), nightclubs will have plenty, and I mean PLENTY of available freelancers ranging from 3's to absolute 9/10's. Cost will be 1000 - 3000 pesos (outside Manila) all night depending on you, the girl and other circumstances.

You'll have much better options in Angeles city and Manila. The former is essentially a fully functioning equivalent of the itaewon of the past. Probably 100 bars or more and thousands of hookers concentrated in a few blocks, barely a 20 mins drive from the airport. Average range is 5-8 on the looks scale. Koreans all but run the town when it comes to the best girls these days, but the beauty of it is most of these girls know how to play the game, money talks bullshit walks. Some will have an exclusive preference for k-guys, but most don't care (I'm talking about the hot ones). You can do it old school by walking into the bars and barfining, or the lazy way by using online dating site methods, or by hitting the big club (high society) at night to party and pick up freelancers.

Manila on the other hand is more spread out, with the highest quality bar girls in P Burgos street in Makati, followed by ESDA Complex about an hour away. There are also plenty of nightclubs (Royal, ZZXYZ, Exclusiv, XYLO etc) with girls that will blow away almost anything you'll encounter in Korea, and yes plenty will be available for P4 P, but at steeper prices of 3 k to 10 k pesos all night, again depends on you and circumstances. You might think I'm exaggerating on how hot these Manila club girls are, but you'll have to see it to believe it. Plenty will be willing to go home with you for no cost, just like anywhere else you’ll need game but not necessarily looks (but looks so help lol). Even if I take a freebie back to my hotel, I always slip my standard 2-3k pesos into their purse or jeans in the morning.

Plenty of scamming going on in the Philippines so you'll need to have your wits about you. Be warned, Once you take the plunge, it absolutely WILL ruin Korea for you LOL.

OralSea
02-10-19, 12:24
Manila on the other hand is more spread out, with the highest quality bar girls in P Burgos street in Makati, followed by ESDA Complex about an hour away. There are also plenty of nightclubs (Royal, ZZXYZ, Exclusiv, XYLO etc) with girls that will blow away almost anything you'll encounter in Korea, and yes plenty will be available for P4 P, but at steeper prices of 3 k to 10 k pesos all night, again depends on you and circumstances. You might think I'm exaggerating on how hot these Manila club girls are, but you'll have to see it to believe it. Plenty will be willing to go home with you for no cost, just like anywhere else youll need game but not necessarily looks (but looks so help lol). Even if I take a freebie back to my hotel, I always slip my standard 2-3k pesos into their purse or jeans in the morning.

Plenty of scamming going on in the Philippines so you'll need to have your wits about you. Be warned, Once you take the plunge, it absolutely WILL ruin Korea for you LOL.I was in Manila with a couple of my friends less than a year ago. Did my homework before I arrived and RainMania is on point, nothing more to add to what he said.

OS, out.

OralSea
02-10-19, 12:32
I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.

Here's her instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana.

If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.

Any info if she's a hooker?What did boracay_nana do to her face? It's so sad when they do that. Been with those type before (working girls or dating) cold in the sack and is as fake as their face. LOL.

SeoulSearching
02-10-19, 16:02
I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.

Here's her instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana.

If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.

Any info if she's a hooker?Glad you like her, and more fun for you, but ugh. Cannot stand it if they chop that much of their noses off. I much prefer the natural look (and tan), as it is. Some of these plastic types just gross me out. That singer Hyuna looks like that, although your IG girl is more extreme. Ick. Just not my style.

KgirlPower
02-10-19, 16:38
I just don't find SE asian chicks or chinese attractive. I banged 2 popular chinese and 1 thai in the past. All 9's and such in the reviews. And yeah face and body were definition of boner defcon level 100 but soon as they opened their mouths and started yacking. I'm sorry those country's languages sound like fingernails on chalkboard. Just deflated my wood. Yeah yeah. I know were not there to hear anything from their mouths other then gagging noises when our dicks are hitting the backs of their throats but my love rod just deflates.

Maybe I had trauma by SE asian as a kid and subconciously blocked the event. Japanse, mexicans, whites I have no problem. Just weird.


Pointless adventure IMO. She would be asking for korean (foreigner) rates, IF she's hooking at all. Boracay is one of the worst options in the country for tourist P4 P, especially since the shutdown and subsequent reopening. Better to check out Cebu if you want better chances of poon with your time at the beach.

There are infinitely better looking filipina girls on IG that will spend the night with you for anything from 50-500 k won. But IG is one of the more expensive methods of doing it. Tinder, tagged, MeetMe, WeChat, FilipinoCupid, DateinAsia and PinaLove will yield thousands of readily available women in any age range you want. Look up the Philippines section of this site for tips and etiquette.

And when you're on ground (in Cebu or any major city), nightclubs will have plenty, and I mean PLENTY of available freelancers ranging from 3's to absolute 9/10's. Cost will be 1000 - 3000 pesos (outside Manila) all night depending on you, the girl and other circumstances.

You'll have much better options in Angeles city and Manila. The former is essentially a fully functioning equivalent of the itaewon of the past. Probably 100 bars or more and thousands of hookers concentrated in a few blocks, barely a 20 mins drive from the airport. Average range is 5-8 on the looks scale. Koreans all but run the town when it comes to the best girls these days, but the beauty of it is most of these girls know how to play the game, money talks bullshit walks. Some will have an exclusive preference for k-guys, but most don't care (I'm talking about the hot ones). You can do it old school by walking into the bars and barfining, or the lazy way by using online dating site methods, or by hitting the big club (high society) at night to party and pick up freelancers.

Manila on the other hand is more spread out, with the highest quality bar girls in P Burgos street in Makati, followed by ESDA Complex about an hour away. There are also plenty of nightclubs (Royal, ZZXYZ, Exclusiv, XYLO etc) with girls that will blow away almost anything you'll encounter in Korea, and yes plenty will be available for P4 P, but at steeper prices of 3 k to 10 k pesos all night, again depends on you and circumstances. You might think I'm exaggerating on how hot these Manila club girls are, but you'll have to see it to believe it. Plenty will be willing to go home with you for no cost, just like anywhere else youll need game but not necessarily looks (but looks so help lol). Even if I take a freebie back to my hotel, I always slip my standard 2-3k pesos into their purse or jeans in the morning.

Plenty of scamming going on in the Philippines so you'll need to have your wits about you. Be warned, Once you take the plunge, it absolutely WILL ruin Korea for you LOL.

ShimShimHeyo
02-12-19, 15:45
I just don't find SE asian chicks or chinese attractive. I banged 2 popular chinese and 1 thai in the past. All 9's and such in the reviews. And yeah face and body were definition of boner defcon level 100 but soon as they opened their mouths and started yacking. I'm sorry those country's languages sound like fingernails on chalkboard. Just deflated my wood. Yeah yeah. I know were not there to hear anything from their mouths other then gagging noises when our dicks are hitting the backs of their throats but my love rod just deflates.

Maybe I had trauma by SE asian as a kid and subconciously blocked the event. Japanse, mexicans, whites I have no problem. Just weird.You should have no problem in The Philippines. Especially in Manila, they speak English just fine. Just hop on a dating site and find some nice, educated women who work in the Makati area and you can have a lot of fun dining, a few drinks and more. Just be honest with what you're expecting. You'll get a lot of women who are not interested in a causal fling but play the numbers game and you'll find a few who are down with what you're after.

ScottlJack
02-15-19, 17:32
I saw Nana at hooker hill. Not sure if she was having an off day, but from the moment I stepped into the bar she was in a perpetual state of rushing around. She was mumbling to herself and at the same time saying short phrases in English, Korean, and possibly Chinese at me. I was about to leave, not only because she was acting strange, but she very demanding and did not seem to have a nice personality. At first she told me to give her 300,00 won but after a couple minutes going back and forth she finally accepted 80,000 won. I paid her 80,000 won and she took me to a sofa in the back corner of the bar. She got naked (she has very nice tits, and has absolutely no ass). I then found out why she was rushing around: she could not find any rubbers. So she got a plastic bag that she wanted me to use. I banged her in several positions then threw the plastic bag on the floor and shot my load on her. She did try to shield her tits with her hand but I was able hold her hand out of the way just in time for the perfect couple shots and the rest went on her stomach.

SeoulSex
02-16-19, 02:38
I went to a popular "Gun-ma"/ spa in Seocho famous for their hot girls, as they were doing a 150,000 two girls / two shots event.

As usual I discovered them on adal, called, made a reservation (they also asked what other places I had gone to to see if I was vetted), then went on my way.

I went down to their discreet basement area and the interior was around mid-range level. I saw a lot of young, handsome men in there which I took as a good sign of what the girls would be like.

I paid the man, showered, then was shown down a corridor to the massage room. After about 5 minutes, the first girl walks in and she is drop dead gorgeous. Amazing hourglass figure and a god like natural (and young!) face.

She was unfortunately not very energetic so I took that as an opportunity to be a little rough with her. Cat bath, BBBJ, all positions, out in 15 minutes.

I got a great hour long massage from an ajumma with hot towels then she finished by playing with my cock and balls for 10 minutes to prep for the next girl.

Second girl walks in and she is just as amazing as the first, see cups with a nice ass and not skinny to the bone like most girls. She turned out to be better than the first because of her great attitude, she treated me like a god.

Cat bath, BBBJ, then she turned around and lowered herself on me so I could get a nice view of her ass. The sounds she made during the whole session was the icing on the cake.

She suspected that I wasn't a local Korean from my accent so she asked where I was from and I gave her a line that I grew up in Canada until I was a teen.

She seemed relieved I was Korean, so I got the sense foreigners were not allowed.

Overall it was worth the cash. One caveat was that they made me wait around 10 minutes after the first girl for the massage, and another 10 minutes after the massage was done which I did not appreciate.

My reports are going to be useless for the majority of users here who can't pass as Korean.

For those of us that can fly under the radar and enjoy all the local Korean spoils, just remember to practice on your accent and keep your sentences short.

I get the sense that I'll be done with this hobby soon. I have my eye on three or four more popular local spots before I'm done. Instagram and Tinder has made it pretty easy to find a Korean FWB which is slightly cheaper than this hobby.

Are there any must-have experiences to recommend before I call it quits?

SeoulSearching
02-16-19, 07:16
I saw Nana at hooker hill. Not sure if she was having an off day, but from the moment I stepped into the bar she was in a perpetual state of rushing around. She was mumbling to herself and at the same time saying short phrases in English, Korean, and possibly Chinese at me. I was about to leave, not only because she was acting strange, but she very demanding and did not seem to have a nice personality. At first she told me to give her 300,00 won but after a couple minutes going back and forth she finally accepted 80,000 won. I paid her 80,000 won and she took me to a sofa in the back corner of the bar. She got naked (she has very nice tits, and has absolutely no ass). I then found out why she was rushing around: she could not find any rubbers. So she got a plastic bag that she wanted me to use. I banged her in several positions then threw the plastic bag on the floor and shot my load on her. She did try to shield her tits with her hand but I was able hold her hand out of the way just in time for the perfect couple shots and the rest went on her stomach.Nana at the place next to the foreign food stores and the TS bar? I forget the name? Paradise or something with a P? I remember when she used to work at Moulin Rouge over a decade ago. She was about 20 back then, and constantly busy. She gives an extremely messy BJ. She gave me a BJ once, and I blew my load in her mouth within 10 seconds. Only works when she feels like it. Doesn't mix with the other ladies around. Big girl, but not heavy.

KgirlPower
02-16-19, 17:58
Yeah, theres some girls that have meaty asses but in general korean women are slim, tall, and have asses flat like a iron board. Why is that? Too much kimchee in their diet and not enought fat and protein? Also, why do korean women have black bruise like wounds on the lower part of their butt cheeks. It looks like some doctor slapped them in the ass so hard when they were born that it left permanent bruises. Any ideas?


I saw Nana at hooker hill. Not sure if she was having an off day, but from the moment I stepped into the bar she was in a perpetual state of rushing around. She was mumbling to herself and at the same time saying short phrases in English, Korean, and possibly Chinese at me. I was about to leave, not only because she was acting strange, but she very demanding and did not seem to have a nice personality. At first she told me to give her 300,00 won but after a couple minutes going back and forth she finally accepted 80,000 won. I paid her 80,000 won and she took me to a sofa in the back corner of the bar. She got naked (she has very nice tits, and has absolutely no ass). I then found out why she was rushing around: she could not find any rubbers. So she got a plastic bag that she wanted me to use. I banged her in several positions then threw the plastic bag on the floor and shot my load on her. She did try to shield her tits with her hand but I was able hold her hand out of the way just in time for the perfect couple shots and the rest went on her stomach.

ScottlJack
02-17-19, 05:59
Nana at the place next to the foreign food stores and the TS bar? I forget the name? Paradise or something with a P? I remember when she used to work at Moulin Rouge over a decade ago. She was about 20 back then, and constantly busy. She gives an extremely messy BJ. She gave me a BJ once, and I blew my load in her mouth within 10 seconds. Only works when she feels like it. Doesn't mix with the other ladies around. Big girl, but not heavy.I'm not sure what the bars name is but it is one or two bars to the right of what used to be Happy Days. She is probably around 40 or 45 years old and in my opinion not really attractive. As I mentioned, she has nice tits, and that is probably the only nice thing about her. She also does not seem to want to connect with customers for repeat services. It's OK with me because I had my fun and I don't plan on seeing her again.

ScottlJack
02-17-19, 06:18
Yeah, theres some girls that have meaty asses but in general korean women are slim, tall, and have asses flat like a iron board. Why is that? Too much kimchee in their diet and not enought fat and protein? Also, why do korean women have black bruise like wounds on the lower part of their butt cheeks. It looks like some doctor slapped them in the ass so hard when they were born that it left permanent bruises. Any ideas?In general I really like Korean women's asses but nanas ass was flatter than the standard Korean women's ass. Since you mentioned bruises, it reminded me that she did have bruises on her back and arms. I asked her what happened and she told me it's from being massaged.

Wolfpack23
02-17-19, 09:29
How legit is the top escort babes website and girls on there?

ScottlJack
02-17-19, 15:15
How legit is the top escort babes website and girls on there?Sorry, I don't have any info about that, but if you want a really good massage from a young beautiful woman I would recommend going to Kingsman spa and grooming located in Gangnam. I went there only once so far. I want to go back again sometime soon. The front desk staff were nice and they let you choose which girl from an iPad. All girls looked really pretty and the one I chose looked just like her picture. If I remember correctly I paid around 80,000 won for one hour massage.

JookMeUp
02-18-19, 12:27
Sorry, I don't have any info about that, but if you want a really good massage from a young beautiful woman I would recommend going to Kingsman spa and grooming located in Gangnam. I went there only once so far. I want to go back again sometime soon. The front desk staff were nice and they let you choose which girl from an iPad. All girls looked really pretty and the one I chose looked just like her picture. If I remember correctly I paid around 80,000 won for one hour massage.Is that the place near Gangnam Gu Office Station exit 2, in the basement of a newish building?

I saw a review on another site that it was just a legit straight massage joint. Is there any hope of some handplay or more? What were you able to get, ScottJack?

ScottlJack
02-18-19, 13:21
Is that the place near Gangnam Gu Office Station exit 2, in the basement of a newish building?

I saw a review on another site that it was just a legit straight massage joint. Is there any hope of some handplay or more? What were you able to get, ScottJack?If you look up kingsman spa and grooming on Facebook you will see a map but the link isn't working for me. It is in the basement of a building. I am not sure exactly where in Gangnam because I was walking around after consuming large amounts of alcohol at another place. I found it on accident. If you want to see interior pictures, you can see on Facebook. As far as I know it is strictly massage. There were a lot of different massage options available but since it was my first time I chose the least expensive option. If you happen to go, please let me know if you find out anything interesting.

ScottlJack
02-18-19, 13:27
Is that the place near Gangnam Gu Office Station exit 2, in the basement of a newish building?

I saw a review on another site that it was just a legit straight massage joint. Is there any hope of some handplay or more? What were you able to get, ScottJack?I am not sure exactly where in Gangnam. I found it on accident after drinking quite a bit of alcohol. As far as I know it is strictly massage.

KgirlPower
02-18-19, 19:26
That map on facebook is bogus. It leads you to a supermarket.

The real kingsman is located in gangnam gu same area s ACE, Fish, anmas. As for being any HJ, I was really skeptical since they advertised so heavily on facebook and even instagram. Just seem to ask for LE sting. Also, they have no ads at any of the sex sites. Just smells funny. So unless a senior monger vouches they got a HJ or BJ I wouldn't even go near that place unless looking for legit massage.


If you look up kingsman spa and grooming on Facebook you will see a map but the link isn't working for me. It is in the basement of a building. I am not sure exactly where in Gangnam because I was walking around after consuming large amounts of alcohol at another place. I found it on accident. If you want to see interior pictures, you can see on Facebook. As far as I know it is strictly massage. There were a lot of different massage options available but since it was my first time I chose the least expensive option. If you happen to go, please let me know if you find out anything interesting.

SeoulSearching
02-23-19, 04:31
Would you consider a Filipina advertising on CL as safe to see for fun? Her ad was deleted, and she is not the TG one. She is working out of a hotel in central Seoul. I have her contact info, tho. She has agreed to a HJ for 50 k.

Thoughts? Sound like a sting? She had pics posted.

Lion55
02-24-19, 04:18
Could be the end for the famous Bean and Kay. IMO those bars are probably condemned for many years and needed to be torn down.

I would say the girls should just move to another locale, but rent is so expensive in Itaewon that it probably isn't feasible. However, if they're lucky to hold onto one of the few remaining joints, supply and demand will drive up prices.I heard from Kay that the relocation now won't take place until the summer.

SeoulSearching
02-25-19, 04:39
Just had a positive meet-up with a Filipina provider in SEOUL. She travels here often Anne is hanging-out at a hotel in Itaewon, and is very pretty. Private location for FS 200, BJ 150, or HJ 50 k.

Nice lady. Very hot. Excellent English skills. In town another week, maybe. She adverts on CL but it gets deleted.

Recommended!

Niteluvr
02-25-19, 05:39
Yeah, theres some girls that have meaty asses but in general korean women are slim, tall, and have asses flat like a iron board. Why is that? Too much kimchee in their diet and not enought fat and protein? Also, why do korean women have black bruise like wounds on the lower part of their butt cheeks. It looks like some doctor slapped them in the ass so hard when they were born that it left permanent bruises. Any ideas?Some Korean women have flat asses, but their Chinese counterparts are a lot worse. Korean women are the prettiest of all Asian women, IMO, but also the biggest pain in the ass.

Jake Dittler
02-25-19, 12:35
Was checking some of ads and one of them had girls offering a service option of "hamburger" in korean. What in the world is that?Dunno if you ever got an answer to your question, but a "hamburger" is a titty fuck. I guess the logic is that her boobs are two buns and you provide the patty.

JookMeUp
02-25-19, 12:49
Would you consider a Filipina advertising on CL as safe to see for fun? Her ad was deleted, and she is not the TG one. She is working out of a hotel in central Seoul. I have her contact info, tho. She has agreed to a HJ for 50 k.

Thoughts? Sound like a sting? She had pics posted.Same SP advertising on massage rep as Sexy and Young Hottie Anne. Has come here a few times in recent years. I almost went to see her but something told me there was a good chance she was a post-op transsexual. Not judging, but not my scene.

If anyone can attest otherwise, go ahead.

SeoulSearching
02-25-19, 17:57
Same SP advertising on massage rep as Sexy and Young Hottie Anne. Has come here a few times in recent years. I almost went to see her but something told me there was a good chance she was a post-op transsexual. Not judging, but not my scene.

If anyone can attest otherwise, go ahead.Anne is her name, but I didn't see anything that appeared TS. There is a different gal who advertises for "body massage" who is TS. I know, because she admitted it when I asked via e-mail. She's also in town.

Anne appeared quite real to me, in person. TS never crossed my mind.

LovinAsia
02-25-19, 21:43
Dunno if you ever got an answer to your question, but a "hamburger" is a titty fuck. I guess the logic is that her boobs are two buns and you provide the patty.I think hotdog would be more appropriate LOL.

Jake Dittler
02-26-19, 01:09
I think hotdog would be more appropriate LOL.Well, when you consider what Koreans think of when they think of a hot dog -- a skewered breaded sausage covered in ketchup, I think that's something you'd want to avoid!

LovinAsia
02-26-19, 22:03
Well, when you consider what Koreans think of when they think of a hot dog -- a skewered breaded sausage covered in ketchup, I think that's something you'd want to avoid!Opposed to a crappy Lotteria hamburger?

This confirms that korean atyle fast food sucks haha.

Jake Dittler
02-27-19, 05:35
Opposed to a crappy Lotteria hamburger?

This confirms that korean atyle fast food sucks haha.I actually did have a really delicious hamburger from a officetel girl with spectacular E-cups (see attached photo below) a couple of years ago. I saw her a couple times, but only had the hamburger once. The second time I saw her, she just gifted me a second round on the house. I was exhausted and far from finishing when the manager called for shower time. I withdrew and she said "Oppa! Stick it back in now!" before she answered the phone while I was pounding her. Good times, but she didn't stick around long enough to see a third time.

There was another girl I saw at an officetel who had a body like the Japanese AV star Rion. She was taking a break from working at room salons and had that really sexy room salon face that I prefer. She was fun to be around but did have a lot of rules (No DATY and a lot of "Oppa! Do it fast please! I love your huge pepper, but your going to break me in half with that thing!) and she was the only girl I saw outside of Gangnam who demanded a foreigner rate (it was 200,000 total). After our first session, she told me I was so nice and wonderful and asked me what I wanted next time. I told her a hamburger would be great and she grabbed her gigantic melons with my hands and shook them up and and down and said "I'm going to give your huge pepper a great time!" That image was burned into my mind for a week up until seeing her again. Same rules, she balked at the hamburger due to back pains. She was so hot that I still had a good time. She like dancing around and shaking those boobs to entertain me while I showered (despite all those alleged back pains). I opted to take a little break from her to see some girls who were less rules oriented while I could save 40-50,000 won. She also stopped showing up a few weeks later but she did leave some indelible images imprinted into my head!

Niteluvr
02-28-19, 04:23
I actually did have a really delicious hamburger from a officetel girl with spectacular E-cups (see attached photo below) a couple of years ago. I saw her a couple times, but only had the hamburger once. The second time I saw her, she just gifted me a second round on the house. I was exhausted and far from finishing when the manager called for shower time. I withdrew and she said "Oppa! Stick it back in now!" before she answered the phone while I was pounding her. Good times, but she didn't stick around long enough to see a third time.

There was another girl I saw at an officetel who had a body like the Japanese AV star Rion. She was taking a break from working at room salons and had that really sexy room salon face that I prefer. She was fun to be around but did have a lot of rules (No DATY and a lot of "Oppa! Do it fast please! I love your huge pepper, but your going to break me in half with that thing!) and she was the only girl I saw outside of Gangnam who demanded a foreigner rate (it was 200,000 total). After our first session, she told me I was so nice and wonderful and asked me what I wanted next time. I told her a hamburger would be great and she grabbed her gigantic melons with my hands and shook them up and and down and said "I'm going to give your huge pepper a great time!" That image was burned into my mind for a week up until seeing her again. Same rules, she balked at the hamburger due to back pains. She was so hot that I still had a good time. She like dancing around and shaking those boobs to entertain me while I showered (despite all those alleged back pains). I opted to take a little break from her to see some girls who were less rules oriented while I could save 40-50,000 won. She also stopped showing up a few weeks later but she did leave some indelible images imprinted into my head!Nice post. Who doesn't love huge tits on a shapely Korean? Usually, Koreans with big tits have those oddly misshapen bodies (inverted triangle), with broad shoulder, big tits and a narrow hips / ass combo. Quite disgusting!

KgirlPower
03-02-19, 19:51
Yes theres some mutated monsters like you describe. But I've seen more proportional hourglass beauties then the monsters you mentioned.


Nice post. Who doesn't love huge tits on a shapely Korean? Usually, Koreans with big tits have those oddly misshapen bodies (inverted triangle), with broad shoulder, big tits and a narrow hips / ass combo. Quite disgusting!

Niteluvr
03-06-19, 06:00
Yes theres some mutated monsters like you describe. But I've seen more proportional hourglass beauties then the monsters you mentioned.For sure, and you can please point me in the direction of the heavy hangers? That said, the monsters I mentioned were real. Lived there for almost 8 years and the ones I encountered didn't have bolt-ONS, unlike their contemporaries. The Korean ho's with big tits I encounter now in the US are 99.9% plastic. If you're finding huge, real ones in Korea, may I suggest you invite all of us to enjoy your findings? I'm sure the beer will flow in your favor on such an occasion and I'd be happy to buy the first round!

Dudega
03-08-19, 04:34
I've heard hookers are using Instagram these days to advertise themselves. M. O. Is usally always bikini pics and profile message to DM them. I found this one hot Korean girl who seems to live in Boracay running a foot massage shop. Yeah, sound ridiculous. Just screams I'm a hooker so contact me. And if I'm in boracay I'm going to go bang her ASAP. One of the hottest chick I've ever seen.

Here's her instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boracay_nana.

If admin blocks the link her IG is: boracay_nana.

Any info if she's a hooker?Ah ah she blocked me on IG, I just asked if the massage can include some special options. Then she asked what kind and I replied "like in Seoul, when I go to massage" LOL.

So I think she's not a hooker or maybe she just doesn't want speak about it on IG and you have to go there for ask directly.

IMO maybe she's really leads normal massage shop and just like exposed herself on IG.

If you go there and do it, please keep us in touch I really like to know if she's a hooker or not.

Also about Instagram girls, in my country you can find hooker on it and like you, sometimes when I check Korean IG girls, like typically the girl who exposed herself in bikini or some sexy dress. Even underwear! And say "DM me, I'm a model", or something like this. When I DM them, usually they don't answer me! I tried in Korean of course!

So maybe there is no hooker on the Korean IG, and these girls want get only some models job or free stuff (like posting picture about some makeup and they will get it free or get some money for it).

Anyway, if someone heard about Korean hooker on IG please tell me, I'm really on it recently! Because so frustrating, they even don't answer my annyeonghaseyo! (in Hangul of course).

Yuzu7
03-17-19, 02:54
Suwon RLD is operational 24hrs 6 days a week. I think it's closed on either Monday or Tuesday night.Hello everyone,

I typically visit Cheonho RLD and (the now gone) Cheongnyangni 588 but wanted to check out Suwon RLD. Can anyone confirm if Suwon RLD actually closes on either Monday or Tuesday evenings, if at all? I was planning to stay a night in Suwon and visit during the day and evening, likely on a Tuesday. Thanks for any info!

RainMania
03-18-19, 08:12
Hello everyone,

I typically visit Cheonho RLD and (the now gone) Cheongnyangni 588 but wanted to check out Suwon RLD. Can anyone confirm if Suwon RLD actually closes on either Monday or Tuesday evenings, if at all? I was planning to stay a night in Suwon and visit during the day and evening, likely on a Tuesday. Thanks for any info!Don't come in on Monday or Tuesday and you'll be fine.

Be warned, the quality in suwon is far less than what you'the get in Cheonho or in any other Seoul RLD for that matter, and their attitudes are just as bad too. If you don't look East Asian, forget A-Row girls for the most part.

Be and see row are full of the dregs, and I mean that in the most sincere form of the word. If you're lucky, you'll find a decent looking girl there or even a rare gem if your stars align. Sometimes I just go there for a late night stroll to see what I'm not missing. And I'm grateful I ain't missing much!

Note that be and see row girls (more like grannies and fatties, or both) are also picky these days because of the deluge of south and south East Asian customers they get. I'm actually happy for these women, they need to eat too after all, just not on my dime.

Yuzu7
03-18-19, 08:44
Don't come in on Monday or Tuesday and you'll be fine.

Be warned, the quality in suwon is far less than what you'the get in Cheonho or in any other Seoul RLD for that matter, and their attitudes are just as bad too. If you don't look East Asian, forget A-Row girls for the most part.

Be and see row are full of the dregs, and I mean that in the most sincere form of the word. If you're lucky, you'll find a decent looking girl there or even a rare gem if your stars align. Sometimes I just go there for a late night stroll to see what I'm not missing. And I'm grateful I ain't missing much!

Note that be and see row girls (more like grannies and fatties, or both) are also picky these days because of the deluge of south and south East Asian customers they get. I'm actually happy for these women, they need to eat too after all, just not on my dime.Thanks RainMania, I appreciate the information! I'm East Asian and have never had any issues at the various Seoul RLDs. I thought a change in scenery might be nice, but based on your feedback, I'll stick with the Seoul RLDs since I can only make it down to Suwon on a Tuesday. Much appreciated!

Niteluvr
03-21-19, 03:49
Don't come in on Monday or Tuesday and you'll be fine.

Be warned, the quality in suwon is far less than what you'the get in Cheonho or in any other Seoul RLD for that matter, and their attitudes are just as bad too. If you don't look East Asian, forget A-Row girls for the most part.

Be and see row are full of the dregs, and I mean that in the most sincere form of the word. If you're lucky, you'll find a decent looking girl there or even a rare gem if your stars align. Sometimes I just go there for a late night stroll to see what I'm not missing. And I'm grateful I ain't missing much!

Note that be and see row girls (more like grannies and fatties, or both) are also picky these days because of the deluge of south and south East Asian customers they get. I'm actually happy for these women, they need to eat too after all, just not on my dime.Suwon must have seriously changed in the past 15 years. In 2004, there were lots of hotties. Granted, most in A-row wouldn't touch a foreigner but I'd go at off peak hours and snag a few. Weren't really any fatties or fuglies back then. Guess with the ever-increasing wealth in the country, even the A-row girls will be has-beens. Korea is no longer a mongering destination.

Tiandao
03-21-19, 13:50
Looking for some action. The site makes it look like it's kinda dead now. A few years back I hit 588. Prices were good at 80 k. Also hit girium that ran me around 100 k. What's open now a days? Looking more for window shopping. Any info is Much appreciated.

Tiandao
03-22-19, 16:11
OK so I went and tried to hit up Yeongdeungpo and it was a bust. I think I went to the wrong place. After arriving at the station, I exited out of 6. I then headed to my right. It lead to a more deserted area. I was then pulled in to the left by a mama and taken down a few alleyways. I went to the second floor and I stupidly gave the mama 100 k. And waited for a girl. Holy shit did I EF things up by doing that. I should have known better. In case you don't know. Don't pay unless you see the goods. I repeat, don't pay unless you see the goods. A woman in at least her 60's came up to service me. She was also on the fatter side. I was not going to pay for this, so after insisting to get my money back they brought another woman. Just as old as the first. They looked like mamas not providers. Things got a bit dicey as I insisted I get my money back. I only know a handful of Korean which didn't help much. After much demanding in broken Korean and some angry Mandarin, I finally got my money back. As a side not I had told the mama that I was Taiwanese. Americans are usually frowned upon. She thought I was Japanese. So then I get the hell out of dodge. And wandered the area looking for some windows. I never found them, but I found a ton of love hotels. And even more norebangs. It helps that I can read a little.

So please learn from my experience and don't ever pay first until you see the goods. Also stay away from exit 6. Also research better first and if you're from the states use T-Mobile as you can roam free. I didn't have internet access on the trip thus the larger chance of messing up.

By the time I left I had spent around 2 hours in the area including the time it took to get my money back. Which I would say was Not an easy task.

Another note, try and travel with a buddy, because shit almost got real out there and it pays to have someone who has your back. I was constantly looking around to see if muscle was coming. Something close to this happened in HK.

Ending the story, I got back to my room and internet and read I went to the wrong exit. I should have headed to times square and Marriott. Which I think I did end up doing in my wanderings, but I was unable to find any windows.

Learn from my mistake and Stay safe out there brothers.

Tiandao.

Niteluvr
03-23-19, 20:54
OK so I went and tried to hit up Yeongdeungpo and it was a bust. I think I went to the wrong place. After arriving at the station, I exited out of 6. I then headed to my right. It lead to a more deserted area. I was then pulled in to the left by a mama and taken down a few alleyways. I went to the second floor and I stupidly gave the mama 100 k. And waited for a girl. Holy shit did I EF things up by doing that. I should have known better. In case you don't know. Don't pay unless you see the goods. I repeat, don't pay unless you see the goods. A woman in at least her 60's came up to service me. She was also on the fatter side. I was not going to pay for this, so after insisting to get my money back they brought another woman. Just as old as the first. They looked like mamas not providers. Things got a bit dicey as I insisted I get my money back. I only know a handful of Korean which didn't help much. After much demanding in broken Korean and some angry Mandarin, I finally got my money back. As a side not I had told the mama that I was Taiwanese. Americans are usually frowned upon. She thought I was Japanese. So then I get the hell out of dodge. And wandered the area looking for some windows. I never found them, but I found a ton of love hotels. And even more norebangs. It helps that I can read a little.

So please learn from my experience and don't ever pay first until you see the goods. Also stay away from exit 6. Also research better first and if you're from the states use T-Mobile as you can roam free. I didn't have internet access on the trip thus the larger chance of messing up.

By the time I left I had spent around 2 hours in the area including the time it took to get my money back. Which I would say was Not an easy task.

Another note, try and travel with a buddy, because shit almost got real out there and it pays to have someone who has your back. I was constantly looking around to see if muscle was coming. Something close to this happened in HK.

Ending the story, I got back to my room and internet and read I went to the wrong exit. I should have headed to times square and Marriott. Which I think I did end up doing in my wanderings, but I was unable to find any windows.

Learn from my mistake and Stay safe out there brothers.

Tiandao.You got it right, never pay until you've seen the girl and her ass stays put while you pay the mamasan. Korea can be confusing so always do your homework and don't try to memorize directions or subway exits. I used to write everything down so I knew exactly where to go. Hope you have better luck next time.

Yuiop69
03-24-19, 07:00
It has been a time since anyone posted on Miari RLD. BUt it is still going strong and I have been an occasional visitor lately as other area get shut down.

The advice from older posts is still good:

Take the Line 4 to the north and exit the train at Gireum station. It is the 4th station after Dongdaemun.

It should also be obvious from Google maps where it is located using Google maps. Look for the rabbit warren streets near the subway.

Take exit 10 and the entrance to Miari RLD is right 10 m to the right behind the 'flying curtain'.

Actually there are tons of entrances and maybe about close on 100 establishments inside.

Some actually front onto the main street and are not in the RLD and I get waved in there too.

The ATMs near the metro entrance have stopped taking my credit card (all the NICE ones and more) and last time I had to walk far to the far east of Miari to find a store with a machine outside that did the business.

Some of the shops might not wave you in and that is ok. There will be tons of mama-san that will ask if you want HJ or sex etc. Just explore the area. Don't worry. You will get laid.

You'll see lots of old women sitting on the various benches around. Easiest way to identify a place that is "foreigner" friendly (for some definition of the term) is to wander until one tries to attract your attention. Maybe they won't budge on a first attempt but will do so later.

Anyway there are lots.

Nor will you walk in and out of every establishment. There are just too many. Usually I find what I like after one or two, and it helps to have written down on the phone what I want using a translate programme.

Don't let yourself be hassled by the mama-sans. Take your time for selection. Price is a fixed rate of 100.000 Won for FS 15 m. I rather ask for more time (30 min instead of 15) (sam ship pun ok?

THis is quite more successful then bargaining the price.

Virtually no English skills here! But don't let that put you off. I know a bit and use your phone.

I've found the place late at night. Last three times I was there was about 3 am.

Inside, you'll be shown the "selection" which is usually 2-3 girls. They're dressed in white gowns ("wedding gowns") and the rooms are lit mostly brightly, giving a pretty surreal glow to everything. As soon as you choose your girl, you pay the mamasan, you are led to room (these vary in quality, some are good), and you wait for the girl to come in.

Mojoman74
03-24-19, 14:34
OK so I went and tried to hit up Yeongdeungpo and it was a bust. I think I went to the wrong place. After arriving at the station, I exited out of 6. I then headed to my right. It lead to a more deserted area. I was then pulled in to the left by a mama and taken down a few alleyways. I went to the second floor and I stupidly gave the mama 100 k. And waited for a girl. Holy shit did I EF things up by doing that. I should have known better. In case you don't know. Don't pay unless you see the goods. I repeat, don't pay unless you see the goods. A woman in at least her 60's came up to service me. She was also on the fatter side. I was not going to pay for this, so after insisting to get my money back they brought another woman. Just as old as the first. They looked like mamas not providers. Things got a bit dicey as I insisted I get my money back. I only know a handful of Korean which didn't help much. After much demanding in broken Korean and some angry Mandarin, I finally got my money back. As a side not I had told the mama that I was Taiwanese. Americans are usually frowned upon. She thought I was Japanese. So then I get the hell out of dodge. And wandered the area looking for some windows. I never found them, but I found a ton of love hotels. And even more norebangs. It helps that I can read a little.

So please learn from my experience and don't ever pay first until you see the goods. Also stay away from exit 6. Also research better first and if you're from the states use T-Mobile as you can roam free. I didn't have internet access on the trip thus the larger chance of messing up.

By the time I left I had spent around 2 hours in the area including the time it took to get my money back. Which I would say was Not an easy task.

Another note, try and travel with a buddy, because shit almost got real out there and it pays to have someone who has your back. I was constantly looking around to see if muscle was coming. Something close to this happened in HK.

Ending the story, I got back to my room and internet and read I went to the wrong exit. I should have headed to times square and Marriott. Which I think I did end up doing in my wanderings, but I was unable to find any windows.

Learn from my mistake and Stay safe out there brothers.

Tiandao.If you arrive by subway you can go through the underground shopping centre. Not sure which exit from the center, but I think number two. You will find the rld right next, running along, to the Shinsegae shopping mall, a road between the mall and Yeongdeungpo subway station.

Easy to locate on Naver or Daum maps. The windows will be blurred in street view, so you know it's the rld.

Zipp0
03-25-19, 14:57
I just met Jeni Yi at my room in Seoul, not far from Namdaemun. Here is the bottom line. If you are a Westerner with limited Korean skills and a decent budget, I say go for it. She was on time, looked great, was easy to talk to, delivered all as promised, and left me with a smile on my face. Is she expensive. Yes. But if you don't speak Korean fairly well (working on that! Or have a friend who does, your choices are limited. I saw Vivien from Bohemian previously, for $300, but Jeni blew her away. Her English is great and she is very smart and easy to talk to. She didn't object to any of my requests and was responsive and vocal during the session. She did ask $100 extra to go 2 x, which is a bit excessive, I admit, but round #1 was so mind blowing that it didn't matter anyway. Her body is simply fantastic and her kissing is wonderful.

I know the sentiment on here is that you should get BBFS for 80,000 W, but that is just not my thing. I would rather pay a bit more and enjoy an educated woman in my room, with some latex between her and I for peace of mind. (she provided the protection, including for CBJ). Despite the rubber, the services were thoroughly enjoyed by all. Jeni says that she cannot fake, and I believe her. If she faked, hand over the Oscar. (and who cares!

Sorry to drive up the price a bit for locals looking for a cheap romp, but here we are. If you have the means, then surely check out the officetel scene, but until my language skills are better, I think Jeni will do nicely! Honestly, I might ask her what her fee would be to introduce me to the scene. With a couple ins, I might be goo to go in the future.

Play safe gents.

Jolem
03-25-19, 19:41
Hi,

This stranger is washing up on your shores in 2 weeks. I've RTFF but hoped you seniors had good, up to date, outcall recommendations?

I've seen Bohemian and few European independents w reasonable success. Looking for something less than crazy $400 or $500 visits. I'm happy to help you with east coast intel if needed / in the future.

Thanks!

SeoulSex
03-25-19, 20:51
500 USD for one pop with a mandatory condom.

Unbelievable. What terrible value.

That's worth two sessions with an anma level hot girl with unlimited shots 90 minutes each.

Magian
03-26-19, 13:25
Real-time reporting from Seoul. Lilly Jung just left my hotel room. She is well worth the USD 500/ hour. She is fucking amazing! Perfect skinny body, beautiful face, and as wild as they get.

I've been with dozens of Korean girls, but nothing like that! Lilly Jung is one of a kind.

http://lillyjung.asia/

Nother Monger
03-26-19, 22:37
Sorry to drive up the price a bit for locals looking for a cheap romp, but here we are. If you have the means, then surely check out the officetel scene, but until my language skills are better, I think Jeni will do nicely! Honestly, I might ask her what her fee would be to introduce me to the scene. With a couple ins, I might be goo to go in the future.

Play safe gents.I don't think prices / girls like these really effect local mongers too much. Locals have many more options and probably wouldn't even think to pay $500 USD for CBJ and just 1 girl when they can go to either an Officetel for anywhere from $150+ and get BBBJ and CFS, a room salon with some friends to get some drinks and see the girl in person before choosing, a RLD, or any other pay for play places. If anything, I'd say you're just driving up prices for other foreigners who don't know / cannot get into the local scene.

RainMania
03-27-19, 03:40
We've tried to warn them for years about getting fleeced, but Ultimately have failed.

The issue isn't the 500 k, the issue is what 500 k gets you. I don't know how else to show people they are being ripped off. Each to his own I guess.

As for me, I'll Take my 500 k where it gets me maximum value.

Niteluvr
03-27-19, 04:29
It has been a time since anyone posted on Miari RLD. BUt it is still going strong and I have been an occasional visitor lately as other area get shut down.

The advice from older posts is still good:

Take the Line 4 to the north and exit the train at Gireum station. It is the 4th station after Dongdaemun.

It should also be obvious from Google maps where it is located using Google maps. Look for the rabbit warren streets near the subway.

Take exit 10 and the entrance to Miari RLD is right 10 m to the right behind the 'flying curtain'.

Actually there are tons of entrances and maybe about close on 100 establishments inside.

Some actually front onto the main street and are not in the RLD and I get waved in there too.

The ATMs near the metro entrance have stopped taking my credit card (all the NICE ones and more) and last time I had to walk far to the far east of Miari to find a store with a machine outside that did the business.

Some of the shops might not wave you in and that is ok. There will be tons of mama-san that will ask if you want HJ or sex etc. Just explore the area. Don't worry. You will get laid.

You'll see lots of old women sitting on the various benches around. Easiest way to identify a place that is "foreigner" friendly (for some definition of the term) is to wander until one tries to attract your attention. Maybe they won't budge on a first attempt but will do so later.

Anyway there are lots.

Nor will you walk in and out of every establishment. There are just too many. Usually I find what I like after one or two, and it helps to have written down on the phone what I want using a translate programme.

Don't let yourself be hassled by the mama-sans. Take your time for selection. Price is a fixed rate of 100.000 Won for FS 15 m. I rather ask for more time (30 min instead of 15) (sam ship pun ok?

THis is quite more successful then bargaining the price.

Virtually no English skills here! But don't let that put you off. I know a bit and use your phone.

I've found the place late at night. Last three times I was there was about 3 am.

Inside, you'll be shown the "selection" which is usually 2-3 girls. They're dressed in white gowns ("wedding gowns") and the rooms are lit mostly brightly, giving a pretty surreal glow to everything. As soon as you choose your girl, you pay the mamasan, you are led to room (these vary in quality, some are good), and you wait for the girl to come in.Curious, are you Asian? IF so, you have a distinct advantage of having access to the better girls there. When I used to frequent the place (American white guy), I would go about 9-10 pm before the Korean guys would get there in numbers so I'd have a better chance of getting a prettier girl. Even when I'd go when Korean guys were on the prowl, a mamasan might let me in and, while I was in the midst of choosing a girl, a Korean dude would show up and the mamasan would literally wrap the long curtains around me to keep me out of view until the Korean guy left or chose a girl and went to a room. Always worried that they'd see my feet sticking out from under the curtains. LOL. Made for some interesting times!

Niteluvr
03-27-19, 04:33
Real-time reporting from Seoul. Lilly Jung just left my hotel room. She is well worth the USD 500/ hour. She is fucking amazing! Perfect skinny body, beautiful face, and as wild as they get.

I've been with dozens of Korean girls, but nothing like that! Lilly Jung is one of a kind.

http://lillyjung.asia/You must have some serious coin and that's your business, but no way in hell would I pay $500 for a Korean, no matter how good she looks. We have a few here in Atlanta, GA that look just as good as Lilly and can be had for $260/45 min. That includes a nice shower with BBBJ and then CFS.