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Kjay Jakee

11-01-03, 12:41

I have been reading the WSG for a while, this is my first post.

I had a freaky encounter this afternoon. I was walking through the Itaewon club area checking out the action. As I walked by a club near the Cream club this Korean chick pulled me in. She took me into a back room. She sat next to me and said she could make me happy. I ask her how much she quoted W80,000 blowjob W60,000 hand job. I told her she was crazy. I said I can go to the red light district and get laid for W60,000. She looked at me like I was lying. Anyway I talked her into a hand job for W20,000. She left and came back with tissue and lotion and a dress. She changed out of her jeans and shirt which gave me a good look at her firm round tits and her sweet a**. She sat next to me and I was in heaven. Midway through a Korean man was making noise outside. She stopped and went to talk to him. I could tell he was stupid drunk. She came back with another girl and told me for another W20,000 I could do her and her lovely friend while her Korean boy friend watch. I said are you crazy I’m not having no dude watch me. Then her girlfriend told me she would do me for free because she need to learn how to do the do. I agreed, but the other girl did not. So I got an Idea, I said I would do her while her boyfriend watch if she paid me W50,000. She went out and came back with W50,000 and I screw the hell out of her while he sat across the way. She had the tightest little honey pot. She was really turned on and had several orgasms before I popped my load. After I was done she finished her boyfriend off a hand job. This was the freakiest thing I have ever done, but got some money out of it. I will definitely go back and do her friend (For practice sake). I will let her girlfriend watch, but I’m through letting a guy watch me. Well unless they pay more.

NY Jimmy

11-01-03, 17:10

Thanks Amateur,

Your info on the Room Salon is very valuable. I picked up a sweet young girl from one of these salons (my host paid) and took her to my room. She was probably 19, did not have a condom and no skill, but she was cute and about 10. However, after we secured a condom from the hotel (called room service), we started and after 10 minutes, she complained that it hurts and refused to continue. She tried to give me a hand job, but she was lousy at it and nothing happened, after an hour she left and I was still waiting to come. It was a lousy experience that costs a lot of money.

The sports massage places are the best, they are costly W200,000-170,000, but you get to be bathed, massaged and the full service is best rate. The farther you are from Seoul, the cheaper it is and the better the service.

Happy hunting.

Danahaste

11-03-03, 21:00

I had a very brief stay at the Westin Chosun two weeks ago and noticed there was a spa that offered massage. Anyone know whether this spa offers special services like other hotel spas? Any recommendations of nearby play areas to this hotel?

Thanks

NY Jimmy

11-04-03, 17:27

Dear Danahaste,

I have stayed the Westin before and the massage they offer is not the one you had in mind, although some time they may offer a HJ for 20,000 (I experienced that at the Intercontinental and the Ritz). Typically that happens if you ask for a massage in your room. Some of the will ask you if you want a massage down there (you want massage here?), some will just keep their hand near your --- until you ask. Avoid the blind people whom are used for massage at many hotels.

What you want is Sports Massage, that typically include a very good massage BJ, FS, bath, facial, etc. and takes about 1-1.5 hours. It is offered at many hotels, but not the five star hotels. Typical cost is between 200,000-180,000. Those of you who remember Turkey baths from a few years ago, well they now call them Sports Massage.

You could also try the barber shops most if not all will offer BBJ, FS, even if you don't speak a word of Korean which I don't. Cost runs about 70K. Of course you have to look for two or three poles (one pole is just a barber)

Good Luck

Amateur

11-05-03, 23:59

Two pictures below are that of an entertainer in Korea. Her name is Hyo-ri Lee, singer/actress, I think. I have tried several barbershops while visiting Seoul but they are hit and miss. One sure place you will get FS for about 90K is as follows: In Apkujung, the intersection by the Hyundai Dept store, if you look across diagonically to your left, there sits Hotel Pop Green. On that block, there is a Daewoo (I think) dealership on the left side of the hotel as you leave the hotel lobby. There is alley in front of the car dealership and about 100 yards down that alley, you will see two barber poles. When you get near the building, there is a restaurant as you go down the steps and the restaurant is on the right and about two doors further on far end of the hallway, you will see two small barber poles spinning. This is the place. They asked you what you are there for. I just nodded to whatever a guy work there ask me. He is probably the owner. After changing into a comfy that they provide and sit on a barber chair for ten minutes for quick feet wash, etc., you are led into a dark hallway with very dim light and automatic sliding doo, which appear to be a regular wall in the dark. Inside, there are showers and massage table for your pleasure. It is full service.

One other barbershop that I liked was in front of the Grand Intercontinental Hotel in Kangnam. It is the second street behind the main Teharanro Blvd. which is the street immediately outside the Grand. About 100 yards to the right on this second street, I think there is a convenient store (franchise type) and on the second floor, there is a shabu shabu restaurant with large pictures on the windows. It is this building on the lower floor where I visited once. It was my first barbershop experience in Korea and didn't know what to expect, other than what I read here. They asked me what I wanted but since it was my first visit to place like this, I just said I need a massage. Perhaps, I should have said "da" meaning full service. I paid 60K and got a comfy and after changed, early 30 girl came in and washed my feet, did massage, and flirted with my balls while massaging. So I decided to roam her body. She had a short skirt and skimpy tight top. She tried to resisit my roaming hands, etc. as I was going under her pantie and feeling her hole down there and her titties. At the end, she asked if I wanted a hj or bj. So, I just said whatever you want and she gave me one of the best bbbjcim in my life. I tipped her 20K and left. I went back few weeks later asking for the same girl but forgot her name so I described her description to the guy that greeted me but he said she was with a customer and asked me to come back but I did not go back. I hope my directions are clear enough.

Wicked Willie

11-11-03, 03:46

Got a great one at the LOFT the other night in Iteawon. Gotta love the girls who are not shy about wanting a foreigner for a boyfriend - and if you got some game - you get some play.....

WW
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Wicked Willie

11-11-03, 03:46

2nd pic of the chick I picked up at the LOFT.

WW
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Bearded Clam

11-11-03, 20:39

WW,

Great body! Must have been fun!

-BC

ThePrince

11-12-03, 05:59

For a non-asian middle aged westerner with no Korean language, first time in Seoul, how would your votes go for playing in Seoul:

1. Hyatt or Ritz?
2. Itaewon or Gangnam?

Most reports seem to guide toward the Hyatt/Itaewon, but some hint there may be prettier girls in the latter.

Things that would interest me would include hostess clubs with some extras or strip clubs. Especially if 9-10's. If less, I'm lots less interested. Doesn't have to be Korean; would particularly be interested in Filipino models for same. Willing to spend for it, within reason.

3. Can you name good clubs in above areas for above activities?

4, What magazines (English of course) would be good references?

5. Are the concierges at the above hotels any use? Suggestions for finding local guides.

Sam Katz

11-12-03, 08:48

Wicked Willie is a pimp, but I just spent 22 hours with a 588 girl.

I gave her an american name Jessica. A 9 overall. We had dinner and she came to my apartment and man, I must have busted around 6 times went to sleep and she woke me up at 10 to go again for another 2 pops.

She didn't shave though but i was still satisfied like a little boy, except the fact that I dropped 500,000won (450 USD).

Ouch

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East Tech

11-12-03, 09:38

The bar JJ Mahoney's at the Hyatt is pretty good, don't think you would have a problem scoring there, it would also be easier if you were staying there. I have not personally picked anyone up there, but I have had offers. Your looking at about 300-400,000 KRW. Also keep in mind these girls will not just come up to you and make an offer, you need to work at it a bit.

There is a good Room Salon close to the Amiga Hotel in Gangnam. It is across the street, not directly but close. it's called the Chess Club. From the main road its down an alley but you can see the sign from the main road. I have spent 2,500,000 for 4 guys with drinks and the girl each. They have a hotel which is attached to the club. The room is included for that price as well. I have never asked for longer but usually she will stay with you for an hour or 2.

BikeRider

11-13-03, 00:30

theprince- You can find professional talent at the Hyatt, but it can be difficult to spot unless things are slow (unusual) or late at night. I've talked with a few when things haven't gone my way in the amateur talent search and have been told the rate was W200,000. She was about a 7-8 (See also a report in the archives about an experience with a pro from JJ's).

The Ritz in Kangnam is more a of Korean area, and it may be difficult for you if you don't have any Korean ability. Others have reported some success with picking up cards off of cars around the Ritz and calling all of them until you find one that will take non-Koreans. I think there were some reports of tauts around the Ritz as well. I've never seen a taut nor windshield cards around the Hyatt.

I'm not aware of any magazines. This group has been the biggest aid to me.

I haven't tried talking with the Concierge's since I'm usually interested in the amateur talent.

Finally, the room salons are, unfortunately, primarily the domain of the Korean male. You pretty much need to go with a Korean to enjoy the full cultural experience.

BikeRider

11-13-03, 00:33

East Tech - The room salon in the Amiga Hotel. Are you caucasion and if so did you go without a Korean friend? It would be a real bonus to find a caucasion friendly room salon for those of us that can get by in Korean.

GameOver

11-13-03, 02:16

Prince - I agree with earlier posters. If you are on your own with no Korean skills, Hyatt/Itaewon are your best bets. Unfortunate because other areas have higher quality but its basically unaccessible to you. If you are ambitious, you might try the Hongdae area for amateur (local college girls). If you want a quick pop, 588 and Yongsan red light districts will satisfy. Easy taxi ride.

Itaewon experience - I had a nice night at the Cheers club on the hill recently. Haven't been to Itaewon in a long time and was surprised how dead it was. Even the venerable Tiger Tavern was closed.

On my way down and home, a few girls in the doorway of Cheers asked me in. I was surprised how cute they actually were. I've met a cutie there in the past but the mileage in that place was pretty low so I hesitated. But, as I hadn't spent any money yet, so why not.

Go in and sit down with cutie (didn't get name, sorry). We're having a drink, shes rubbing my leg, I'm rubbing her boobs. She starts stroking my cock and pulls it out. She asks, You want to cum? She offers prices, 100,000 HJ, 150,000 BJ, 200,000 FS. I laugh, offer 100,000 FS. She argues a few times, then goes to check with her boss. Comes back and says, OK but don't tell anyone. (Yeah right!)

She comes back and strips down (this is in a big booth with a curtain pulled back. Offered to go to hotel, which would have been fun but more expensive). Great body, she was probably early 20s. Straddles me and rides for a while. Good rhythm and I'm playing with her asshole, she didn't stop me. Flipped her over, pulled her legs up and started banging her, me standing, her on the couch. Go for a few minutes more before I pull out, take off the condom and go BBTC. I'm pretty sure she swallowed part of it before spitting out the rest.

All in all a good time because wasn't too expensive, sex was good and girl was really cute, looked like a regular college girl on the street, cleaned up and not dirty at all like other Hill hags. (I'm not fooling myself here, she'll be a hill hag in a few years).

Question for the board - I'm always on the lookout for Sports massage places and noticed there was one at Hotel Popgreen in Apkujong. Any experiences that can be shared? I have extremely high standards when it comes to these places but have had some of the best paidsex of my life in them and would like to add a new one to the list.

Thanks

East Tech

11-13-03, 03:34

Bike Rider,

Yes I did go with other Korean business associates. There may be a Caucasian friendly Room Salon in Itaewaon. Not sure. Also, the Chess Club I mentiond is not in the Amiga Hotel but across the street.

Wicked Willie

11-14-03, 00:01

Ah, another great night in Iteawon. Started out at All that Jazz listening to some good Jazz. Met these 2 girls who were into the music and started chatting. Got them to go with me to the Limelight. Did some dancing and drinking and dancing and drinking.

The ugly one thought I was cute (ha!) but I had the hots for the cute one, so a little more dancing and drinking and I got the ugly one sick. I put her in a cab and asked the cute one if she wanted to goto my place and watch some DVDs.

A couple of movies, some soju and at 7:30am, she is ready to go.... I talked her into some pics (she was VERY outgoing since she was trashed) and right now I just got done banging her and she is snoozing.

Time to post some pics and go bang that little hot azz again....

Love Korea!

WW
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3 pics a comin!

Wicked Willie

11-14-03, 00:02

Pic 2

Wicked Willie

11-14-03, 00:02

Pic 3

Bearded Clam

11-14-03, 01:49

Damn! I really need to get to Korea!

Flip Mo

11-14-03, 02:26

Me too! I need to get to Korean soon! Living in New York I've seen some HOT Korean girls. I've even had some experience with them in the MP's here.... about 5 experiences to be exact! I love Korean girls as much as Filipino girls, although I havent been with a Filipina girl so I wouldnt be able to tell who's better in bed. Korean girls are just so HOT! I'm planning a trip to the Philippines with a side trip to BKK or Pattaya, but maybe I should make an additional side trip to Korea (Iteawon)?? Reading all these boards is getting me to want to go on a vacation already, but I'll have to wait until January or February. Anyone up for meeting in the Philippines, BKK, Pattaya, or Iteawon during my vacation?

FlipMO

Member #3412

11-14-03, 06:53

I wonder how real is the pic...Lime 1,2,3 and with different background..hmm.

Sam Katz

11-14-03, 22:01

I agree with Evan dando, Korean girls don't do all this with foriegners for free unless your lucky. And they also don't let you take pictures that easily either i know from personal experience and im Korean, Wicked Willie is either very very lucky or is lying.

Anyways is anybody in Korea?

Do you want to meet one of my friends?
I have many so I will share the wealth

Call 011- 9031- 4583 cell
Rahn (Tracey) yes shes Korean

Great FS for free if you got game like me.

Good hunting everybody

Assetman

11-15-03, 03:11

East Tech & Bike Rider -

There's a foreign-friendly room salon I've been using to entertain clients for years in Gangnam. Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.

Also, to those of you who have been to Fantasy Club in Itaewon - curiosity finally got the better of me the other day and I popped in for a drink. The gal seemed very nice and from what I understand (I speak korean so we chatted a bit about business) she is actually somewhat selective in regard to her customers (good for her^^).

As she's somewhat "aged" (maybe late 30s?) and not really my type, I left after a few drinks. However, I'm considering returning as the curiosity factor is once again just too much to bear, hehe.

Questions:

1. Does she do all nighters? She mentioned that she opens up at 14:00 and closes about 2:00 every night, which is kind of early (kid at home maybe?). Rate?

2. What's her "repertoire"? I see many of you posted that she's a GFE, but what exactly can I expect?

Thnx & cheers.

Wicked Willie

11-15-03, 05:16

Evan,

If you notice in pictures 1 & 2 they have white backgrounds. If you look closely, you will see that they are vertical blinds – as in the vertical blinds in my living room. In pic 3 and a lot of my other pics, I black out anything in the background that might give away my apartment by how it looks – IE my BED and/or PHOTOS. I have even gone so far as to cover over certain aspects of my furniture (couch) since they are very distinctive.

Some of us mongerers in Korea are married and have families back stateside and also have prominent jobs/careers that could be threatened if the wrong people found out about our "social" calendars.

So please, in the future, keep your misinformed 2cents to yourself.

WW
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P.S. Did you notice the mole on the tummy in all 3 pics - wonder how I "faked" that - duh.

Seoulman

11-15-03, 05:48

WICKED WILLIE! please stop posting those amature porn pics.
I have seen those on the web before! what do you think you are dealing with people who dont browse for porn!!!
and second of all. do you think we believe that yeah you score a chick that happens to be trimmed and poses in erotic poses with sexy underwear just becuase you are cool!!!

yeah ok buddy.. anyway what ever keep the pics coming!
why not show their faces? like you care about them!!

Wicked Willie

11-15-03, 07:10

Hey Seoulman,

Yea, I guess you must be right cause you know what poon I get and dont get. So I guess I am busted for posting the pics - oh well. Guess I won't be posting the girls pics I score with on here anymore for you guys.

In fact, I guess I wont be posting anything else about the girls I hit up then either in Iteawon.

I will just keep the info to myself and laugh at you guys.

Jeesh!

By the way - what site was it you saw them on so I can browse over and see them.....

Oh, and here is another one I got a few months back. I crop the heads off cause most ask me to - and I am a nice guy. This chick covered her head with my pillow.

WW
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Wicked Willie

11-15-03, 07:16

Oh, here is the pic and yes that is ME in that poon.

Wicked Willie

11-15-03, 07:20

Lol - guess I "faked" this one too!

Baby Huey

11-15-03, 08:04

I will be in town for the next few days, does anybody want to go out in Iteawon on Sunday night? Staying at the Hyatt, and will be getting in Sunday Afternoon. Post or e-mail me at jimhart69@hotmail.com

LuvumBare

11-15-03, 09:00

Long time lurker and I want to thank everyone for all their input. Without this board, life on the road would be wothless.

Spent a couple days at Grand Hyatt and tried my luck in JJ's. Being on the far side of 50 yet no totally unattractive, I expected to have a more difficult time than the young studs, but not to draw a total blank.

Making contact in this palce is really very hard work. The girls are always in parties of 2, 3 or 4 and you never can confirm the "workers" by just making eye contact. Also, it is crowded, noisy and there are a lot of very drunk Korean guys who don't seem fond of a white guy getting laid by "their" women.

Did get lucky in the hall on the way to the elevator. Rather good looking woman ( 6 to 7.5) depending on beers consumed. Asked her to come upstairs for a drink and away we went.

In the room, she started at 400K Won. Got her down to 200K. She then asked for another 150K if her girl friend could join us. We agreed at 300K for a sandwich.
Girl friend arrived (maybe a 6). Shower for 3 was fun and a nice BBBJ from girl 1.
Both has decent bodies but could stand to lose 20 or 30#'s. Age about 30.

Sandwich was very enjoyable thanks to 50mg of Blue Thunder. Girl 2 responded very well to DATY while girl 1 continued BBBJ. Alternately pumped both. While pumping girl1, girl 2 delivered an outstanding AR. Final act was BBBJTCIM with girl 1.

Girl 1, Kim, gave her cell number and I will pass it on to anyone with interest. Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.

She is not going to be the event of your dreams but she is a hell of a lot easier than fighting your way through the mess in JJ's.

On to Hong Kong and China for 10 days.

Assetman

11-15-03, 11:45

This juvenile back-and-forth arguing about the validity of photos is boring.

1. There's a photo section, so why not post photos there.

2. If a photo is taken from a webpage, prove your allegations by posting the link.

Sam Katz

11-15-03, 16:49

We tell him that the pictures are fake and he retaliates oh so quick with 2 new pictures. Can you really different girl for free like that everyday and get porn pictures like that?

I don't think so

Wicked Willie

11-15-03, 18:37

Sam,

LOL - if you go back - you will see I posted one of those last 2 photos a couple of months ago when they put the photo section up.... Check 18 Sep under Seoul.

You want me to take pic of my c**k and post it so you can compare to the ones in the photos I just published - lol - I can do that for you.....

Oh, and you have not heard me say "ALL" those pics were for free, just some of them.... But I don't call $200 and $300 bar tabs to be exactly free or taking someone shopping for clothes before sending them home free either.... Also, SOJU can change how someone sees the world.....

Now, how about stopping the BS attacks please.....

Assetman, the chick at Fantasy has always been pretty good. Yes, she is a little older, but she does do BBBJTC, DATY (if you dare), multi positions and pops, DFK.... I have not seen her in a few months after I finally met Gina.

If you have not seen Gina - see her before the chick at Fantasy - much better bang for the buck! Also, there are a couple of girls at "bridges? club" just down the hill from Gina's that are OK for 60,000W short time (45 min).

WW
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Baby Huey

11-15-03, 22:23

Where is RDL in Yongsan? Is it in the old Yongsan Army Base?

Wicked Willie

11-16-03, 07:02

Jim,

Do you know where the underground tunnel is that is going to the electronics market at Shin-Yongsan?

If you are are facing the tunnel on the Yongsan side you will see where they are building the new station. Walk in that direction to the LEFT of the tunnel. It is about 2 intersections down - Look for a walk over bridge over the main street (I forget the street name) and look for the KIA dealership. It is very easy to find.

You can always just ask where the KIA dealership is when you come out of the Shin-Yongsan subway.

WW
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Sam Katz

11-16-03, 10:08

588 for everybody.

Sam Katz

11-16-03, 10:09

And more.

Sam Katz

11-16-03, 10:20

Wicked Willie,

I do not care about comparing c*ck pictures and trying to investigate. BESIDES the alcohol tab like a room salon or in any situation because the guy is expected to pay, a foriegner does not get different natives left and right like that unless your paying them or very very lucky. And they definetly do not pose for the camera naked and let foreigners take p*ssy shots like your posting. Stop trying to make it seem like its no big deal by saying LOL and stuff.

I do not care, the pictures are nice and i know it's possible. Props if you are that lucky or that much of a pimp. But all the time is not likely. Especially with pictures

Come on, just getting laid if your a forigener is hard enough harder all the time and even harder to do all that and get pictures and p*ssy shots. Please, you probably got them from SG or something but i can care less

Anyways, has anybody heard of Young Deung Po? i think its another RLD in Seoul

BikeRider

11-16-03, 15:15

I was doing a bit of "Googling" the other day and I found this URL http://www.ubkorea.com/leisure/nightlife/night_room.htm that talks about room salons and bukchang-dong. It even lists the names of some room salons in English. Anyone know anything about these places?

Thanks, BR

In Disguise

11-17-03, 18:32

Sam,

Young Deung Po does have a RLD. It's not as big as Yongsan or others, and the girls seem lower than Youngsan. And, I'm not sure how foreigner-friendly they are.

ID

Yaoming

11-18-03, 01:19

BR: Yeah, I have always wanted to goto these places, but driven away because of the price. As a young man in my 20s, I just can't afford the prices in these joints. I guess I'll have to wait until I am in my forties or fifties (or earlier if I save enough money) to try out these places. I just can't afford to spend $400-600 a night. I know a Korean friend of mine who is from a wealthy family and tells me those places are just awesome. The girls there are supposed to be top notch. He says the only problem is over priced drinks. He went to one in the kangnam district, supposedly one of the more upscale ones. Total came up to close to 1000 dollars ~about 1.2 mil won for him and his friends. And he also said that he felt intimidated by mafiose looking koreans working there. Usually these places are run by korean mafias and if you don't pay up, they usually resort to violence to resolve the matter. But the girls are definitely up there.

Nick Belane

11-18-03, 05:48

Sam,

Youngdeungpo is pretty much where you'd expect to find it -- near Youngdeungpo train station along one street leading away from Shinsegae Dept Store. But it's very foreigner unfriendly. That part of town is a bit on the rough side with lots of gangster types milling around. The fantastically good-looking girls working in the brothels won't even look at you. The only ones who will go with a foreigner are the streetwalkers and I have yet to see one that is even remotely attractive.

Zarkoff

11-18-03, 09:50

Went to the two pole place mentioned by amatuer a few pages ago. Hey, finally FS or at least a BJ, I think to myself.

Look, I've got to get a smaller dick or color my hair or something. In Hong Kong, the sauna girls want the sex (better money) and will stop in the middle of the massage to get the head dude (if they don't speak "Engrish") to ask you, uh-gin, if you want sex (I've usually gone for the HJ in Hong Kong, don't ask me why).

So in Seoul, and in the place near the Hotel Pop Green mentioned by amatuer, I get the, "Oh, you so biggie! Korean man not so biggie!" Yeah, well it ain't true unless unknown to me I'm some kind of freak. I don't go around comparing dicks but I've seen enough dicks in adult movies to know I'm just a regular guy.

So that makes me a sap, or a mark I guess. The place is exactly where amatuer described. If you aren't a local and you use the Escort Seoul map (just a tourist map, trust me), the Hyundai Dept Store is in the index but gives the wrong coordinates. Not to worry, its the wrong Hyundai Dept Store anyway. On this map, the subway station you want is labeled "Apgujeong" and you want exit 2.

Try as I might, no FS in this place for Mr. Sap. 80k won and I didn't even get a massage. Cute girl, maybe a 7, really nice body, smallish tits but you could tell they were there, great skin, good looks, some "Engrish", and she actually tried the CBJ but could only get the reservoir in her mouth. Okay, maybe a bit more. Finally begged me for HJ, which was actually much better then her poor attempts at the CBJ.

Hey, business done, cleaned up, mandatory spinach in a bottle, and out the door you go, round eye. What happened to the massage? Geez, what do think this place is, a sauna?

I gotta start spending my money in Seoul on other things, like kimchi pots or something. Nice people, nice city, nice ladies (unless you run the gauntlet of "The Hill" and then its every man for himself) and just a nice place. Just no FS for this round eye.

Hades

11-18-03, 12:47

Just a quick question. How much is a blow job from Yongsan?

Also if you go BBBJ are the chances of getting HIV from the girl low? Because there is no real point to paying a girl to suck rubber?

Seoulman

11-18-03, 16:44

WW! I wouldnt be braging about those girls man anyway!
what you should have done was shave that monster.
JEESSSUUUSSSSS!

what ever man.. good luck to you...

Zimperli

11-19-03, 06:25

Hi guys,

Any phone no. from Freelancers?

Thanks for infos. Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.

Member #1352

11-19-03, 14:26

I am from India. Please let me know safe contacts who can do BJ and massage on call basis.

Sam Katz

11-20-03, 08:27

Nedski,

Nobody should agree to a BJ with a condom, that ruins the whole point of a BJ. I thought only in the states they give CBJs?

I've never even heard of a CBJ in Korea. You won't get HIV don't worry unless she got HIV and a cut in her mouth or something like that. Girls at RLDs don't like to give just a BJ cause it takes longer and it's more work on there behalf. But I managed to get it for the same price as FS even lower sometimes.

Happy Hunting Mongers

Photoman

11-20-03, 12:20

I must be feeling sorry for the older gals.

Went through Yongsan the other night, not really knowing what I wanted. I just don’t get the “no foreigners” look that everyone is talking about, so there were lots of choices. Was just walking and looking, ready to walk out to the main street by the motorcycle shop when a 40ish, somewhat heftier woman waved at me. Don’t know why I took her up on it. She just had a friendly face. I made sure I could DATY first, and did the “promise” finger bit with her.

In the room, she was shy about taking her clothes off because she had a few extra rolls. She was gentle and didn’t worry about rushing things. A few minutes of BBBJ, and then flipped to 69, and then I was down on my knees with a nose full of hair. She really did like it. Let me lick as long as I wanted, and I even played around with her G spot. After a good licking, finally got down to business. Even for an older woman, she needed KY jelly. Why they don’t keep some around puzzles me.

Cost was 60,000 won, and she didn’t ask for a tip. She did ask me to come back again. I wonder why.

Had a similar experience with an older babe at a BS near Seoul Station one Sunday afternoon. BS’s really are like gambling. You don’t know what you will get until you walk in the door. There’s this older woman, a little fleshier. I thought about turning around, but she looked so friendly.

After a few minutes in the chair I gave her the signal that I wanted a mouth full of hair, and she just laughed. She continued the massage, which wasn’t too bad. I grapped at her skirt and licked up her thighs. That time she pulled her panties aside to let me lick at it. And, she wouldn’t let me come up for air. Had a really good workout, and she came back for seconds. After she had her fill she gave me a really good CIM BJ.

I have no guilt over giving the older gals a good time. As they say, a good time was had by all.

Mingman

11-21-03, 06:59

FYI,

Yongsan & Other RLD 's "No Foreigner Banner" applies to the young , hot girls working in the "shops" there. Definitely they won't accept foreigners .. just take it.

but if you dare to have sex with old, 40-50ish, women ( ajumma) they are everywhere near RLDs and hooker hill.

For western travellers, please don't expect too much if you look for young , hot girls in RLDs.

Just mt 2 cents,

Mingman

Wicked Willie

11-21-03, 21:57

Mingman, that is not quite true. You can go to Yongsan and you are right - you will NOT get lucky on the A row (the big road down the center) as a foreigner. But there are cute B row girls who are young that you can still get lucky with - without having to see the old, old women.

WW
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Photoman

11-22-03, 00:49

I concur with WW's assessment. There are lots of young – not 16-year-olds – women who will take foreigners in the RLDs.

I have not been to Miari since the no foreigners signs were posted, but if a person is dressed half way decent and doesn’t look like a slob, there wouldn’t be in problems finding a bit of pleasure. I’m sure the no foreigners policy has worn off by now. I also have a notion to go out to 588 and just see if I would get snubbed.

There is something to be said for more mature women. Last time I hooked up with an young girl, she just was so inexperienced and uncooperative that I didn’t really enjoy it. All the gals need to learn that a little lubricant will make things a lot smoother and less painful. I don’t know why they don’t realize this. I have yet to see a woman use lubricant. Try rubbing dry plastic against your skin for 10 minutes and see how it feels.

Also they shouldn’t freak out when a man tries to be kind and gentle with them. Just because the Korean guys treat them so badly doesn’t mean the foreign men are going to do the same.

Age also changes your perspective. When you are 50, a 30-year-old woman is young. Can someone tell me just how much different an 18-year-old feels from a 30-year-old?

Wicked Willie

11-22-03, 12:04

Zemperli,

Here is the name and number for a nice hot young girl at the Yongsan RDL.

If any of you other guys call - DO NOT say I sent you. She is cute and HOT - and I do not want her P!ssed at me! ha!

Kim So Yun
Free Lancer (says it on her "business card")
011-9918-4111

Her enlish is NOT, I repeat, NOT good - so you better speak decent Korean to call her or have someone else call who can speak Korean.

And, YES, Gina the little older (late 30s?) chick on Hooker Hill in Iteawon

Gina
Iteawon (Hooker Hill)
019-576-0577

Any other guys got the numbers for some HOTT free lancers either solo or at the RDLs?

WW
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Photoman

11-23-03, 14:24

Went to Cheongyanggi Saturday afternoon and didn’t see any of the “no foreigner” attitude I am hearing so much about. I had just barely walked onto on of the streets of delight when all the gals started beckoning me. There was not a booth I walked by that a girl didn’t give me the sign.

One young cutie caught my eye. Friendly, but wanted to give me only 15 minutes for 60,000 won. I tipped her 10,000 up front and got a big smile. She was clean, no marks, not much English but talkative and trying. She started off with CBJ, then 69 and finally I was down on my knees DATY. She didn’t seem to mind, didn’t get in a hurry and let me eat for a long time. Finally finished off with doggie style action.

She had a great attitude. Even asked for me to come back again. Don’t know if this is because of better service at 588, or just more competition for available men, but it really is a different world from Yongsan.

To get to Cheongyanggi, take Subway Line No. 1 to Cheongyanggi station. Exit the police station portal and take the street to the right of Lotte Department Store. At the T take a right. I know there are lots more houses, but I just didn’t more than 50 feet because of all the action.

Wicked Willie

11-23-03, 15:38

Hey SAM KATZ,

Here are some more pics of my C*ck for you to check out stuffed into some of the local action.

This chick I met at the Bridge in Iteawon. Nailed her for 70,000W for an hour. She loved the DATY and DFK - so I would call her a GFE.

Eat your heart out.

WW
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Wicked Willie

11-23-03, 15:39

Hey SAM,

Here is some more of my C*ck for you.

WW

Wicked Willie

11-23-03, 15:39

One more for SAM.

Seoul Blade

11-23-03, 18:23

photoman,

When you were at 588, which street(s) did you exactly walk around? the main streets where the cars go, or the alleys? I'd like to know so that maybe I'll have a look at those areas one more time.

I know for a fact that the mainstreets where the cars enter (except for the girls right at the entrances) will definitely NOT take a foreigner other than Japanese. I tried so many times.. were there any Korean men walking around when the girls were calling out for you?

If the girl gave you CBJ and let you DATY and 69, I am getting the impression that you went to an alley girl, not a mainstreet one, in 588, those "B" alleys have always been reserved for foreigners, FYI.

Let me know.

Sam Katz

11-23-03, 22:01

Wicked Willie,

Wow thats great your being a baby about things. Nobody cares about your fake pictures and even if they were real nobody would care anyway. Stop being immature and trying to retaliate and prove your way with pictures like that. If your going to post pictures please make it just the girl, your pictures are pointless (unless some people here are gay and enjoy c*ck pictures...)

Just post the picture of the girl, either fake or not from now on my friend.

Wicked Willie

11-24-03, 04:01

Sam,

Just getting my point across to you - that there ARE girls in Korea who will get their photos made.

I have YET to have you show ANY of the photos I posted are FAKE - so buzz off - "friend".

Oh, and you dropped your passy on the floor.

WW
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Sam Katz

11-24-03, 08:16

Wicked Willie,

Nobody cares man, keep posting pictures fake or not just keep the c*ck out of it.

Buzz off? passy?

Please, This forum is not for name calling and insults my friend.

I called you a baby because you keep taking offense. I do not care man.

You can have the last word if that will make you happy.

Anyways, has anybody ever tried going back to chon ho dong and looking for SW? They got shut down but the girls had to have gone somewhere...

Photoman

11-24-03, 13:45

Seoulblade,

I met this talent on one of the wider streets. Cars were going by as were Korean guys. It was 3 in the afternoon. I went in past the Lotte all the way to the T intersection -- not one of the side alleys.

When I approached this girl, I talked to her for a couple of minutes, and then she asked me to step inside behind the curtain. I could tell she was cautious about being seen talking to a foreigner.

When I left she checked the street first, and when she didn't see any Korean guys let me out.

This was an experiment. I wore casual clothes -- no blue jeans -- and was neat looking.

Try to follow up and see what kind of results you get.

photoman

Seoul Blade

11-24-03, 16:07

photoman,

Thanks for the info. I'll have a look at that. The only thing is that you told me that the girl was pretty cautious, so I'm pretty sure it won't be that easy considering that Korean men are around all the time. ..perhaps you were getting the call from the girls because no guys were around at that time(?)

One thing I know is that there are girls doing different shifts in 588. The "day-time" girls work until around 5-6pm, and then the "night-time" girls come out around 7-8pm. I've been there during the day and night and must say that the "night-time" girls are the ones to be with, but they're pretty much impossible, not to mention the fact that Korean men are always around at those times..

Hades

11-24-03, 17:26

Wicked Willie,

I cant help but notice in your photos that you are fucking the women without any protection.

Arent you the least concerned of STD's?

Baby Huey

11-24-03, 21:23

Quick Report on my short trip in Korea.

Went to Yongsan Station area the girls there were good for a quickie. I did not find any that want to go for a all nighter. Basically 60,000 won for one pop.

The In and Out Massage on the Hill in Itaewon is good for HJ or BJ service. They do a great standard massage with the service. This is also a 60,000 won stop for 1 to 1 1/2 hours. Great looking girls.

JJ at the Hyatt is a hit and miss thing. Lots of good looking girls; they are running in group (2 to 6) and you do not who is working and who is playing. A great place for a small group of guys to go to meet girls for a night of fun and maybe more. Some will put out and some will not. This place is a great to go if you can speak Korean, it work for me. I had some luck a few of the nights, but be prepare to strike out a few times.

I still think one of the best girls in Seoul for a good time is Gina on the hill. Trip after trip I have some of the best times with her. She will give you one of the best true GFE sessions you will get, including from your girl friend you have not seen in a month. I took her out for fun one night, after some fun in Seoul, we got back to my room and I thought see was going to kill me. After 3 1/2 of non-stop action, she still wants more! She is a great one! Just do not plan to sleep much!

The last place that I had a great time at is the Ocean Club in Itaewon (next to the Hamilton Hotel on the right side as you look at the front of the hotel, about 50 meter off the main road on the 2nd floor, there is u shape area of shops and bars on this side of the hotel and it is on the right side of the U). This place has a lot of great looking girls working in it. Allot of great fun for one or group. There are about 12 girls working here, all good looking. I hook up with a great young girl (21) here, Korean was very important with this girl, but the other girls spoke great English. It is one of the best places I have found in Itaewon for years and years; going back to the 80's. The only thing to watch for, they can play the drink game here. I saw one guy run up a 300,000 Won tap in 2 hours. But otherwise a great place if you know the game. This place is a must for me in the future! If you go there, say Hi from Jim!

Sam Katz

11-26-03, 18:02

Question:

Is Miari is the only RLD that has the no foriegner sign? Does 588 and Yongsan have it as well?

Amateur

11-26-03, 21:31

Visiting Seoul again soon in December. Other than Hyatt and perhaps Hamilton hotels, are there any other hotels where action can be had easily? Any lead or advise would be appreciated. Thanks.

Seoul Blade

11-27-03, 02:11

Tried my luck in 588 the other day, both daytime and nighttime (I say daytime and night-time since the girls are different during the time of day). For one thing, there were almost no shops open during the daytime. The daytime girls were still pretty unfriendly; and when no guys were around, there were a slight few who were accepting, but they weren't that hot and were overcharging prices.

And needless to say, at night-time, there was basically NO chance with any of the hot night-time girls (forget the "B" ones in the alleys). It seems the mainstreets are totally "off-limits" for foreigners at night. I guess you can say that daytime is relatively better, RELATIVELY.

To photoman:

Did you walk along the leftmost side of the street all the way to the T intersection? You said that the road was wide...there are 2 streets where the cars pass frequently, and the leftmost one (facing away from Lotte) is the wider street. Just curious which street did you exactly go.

Seoul Blade

11-27-03, 16:42

Sam Katz:

So far, Miari has the sign. But it's not as if having the sign makes anything different for the other RLDs; the Yongsan "A" rows and 588 mainstreets have always been "No Foreigner."

Photoman

11-28-03, 01:14

SeoulBlade,

Your report was not very encouraging for foreigners, but I did enjoy myself last time.

I took the road to the right of the Lotte, between Lotte and its parking garage. The road at the T is not all that wide (was not looking at the road, but at the girls). I didn't very far into the street going west because the one girl caught my eye.

I used to wander through 588 years ago, and I don't remember it being looking like it does today. Ten years ago there weren't all the showcase windows, and it was a dirty little place.

Very interesting to note there are two shifts of girls. I would be cautious of venturing into strictly Korean turf late at night. Yongsan is not that big, and you could get out onto the street quickly if there any problems. However, 588 is so big, and you could find yourself deep in trouble.

You say there girls wanted to much. This one girl asked for 60,000. That pretty much is the going rate at Yongsan, but I have noticed that the price goes to 70,000 after 7 p.m.

Bottom line: we need to investigate more. Does anyone else have relevant reports to add?

GameOver

11-28-03, 01:43

Only RLD I've been to lately is Yongsan. A row girls still won't even look, or if they do, its with a little giggle that says, "oh, poor foreigner. You want but you ain't gettin none of this."

I'm not sure how B and C are typically classified so I'll try for description.

Row off A, away from the Shinyongsan road is hideous. Stay away.

All cross/side roads have potential and the keys rattle the windows when I walk by. Haven't seen too many lookers there but we all have different standards so you might find something. I did find one absolute hottie who was willing to take me in. Seemed like she was new and another girl was saying that foreigners are 120,000. I argued back with 60,000. Hottie was interested but others vetoed. Walked away but may go back looking for her alone.

On the row closer to Shinyongsan road, I've got a favorite. Two hot chicks in there, one kindof looks away but maybe, the other actively pulls me in for 70,000 (I won't argue). Best BJ i've ever had in my life!!!!

Mingman

11-28-03, 05:29

For travellers,

To guarantee good sex I strongly recomend to visit the MPs mentioned earlierin the posts. Good sex with pretty girls in a safe place. As reviewed in recent posts, RLD won't take any foreigners, and that's Korea RLD rule of game, don't spend too much time to test it, better visit other attractions in Korea ^^.

Those who live in Korea have sex with ugly B/C rows 40ish old ladies. Why? Why you do this to yourself?

Yellow Fever

11-28-03, 06:36

Hi guys,

The RLD sounds like what we called Turkey Farms 15 years ago when I was stationed in Korea. Is there any action up near the DMZ Yong Ja GO or Son Yu Ri or Oui Jon Boi, or near 2ID HQ by Camp Casey?

Coke Can

11-28-03, 09:11

Seoul near the Palace downtown:

I saw this hot tiny babe. From the look with a few men she appeared to be potentially available. I love tiny women! I love even more when I see their face when I both drop my pants and also when I stuff my cock into them. Anyway I wasn't lucky enough to live out a free fantasy with this girl but it was well worth the 200,000 won. She could have easily been on the cover of any magaizine. Hey it is only money, right? I gave her a big cock ride that I know she will never forget! Her pussy was great! I don't know if she is a regular at the palace but I met her near the outside food vendors.

Photoman

11-28-03, 09:36

Glad to hear people are adding reports about foreigner-friendly places. Again, Yongsan station area has been pretty good to me. If I walk into to the middle of the cross streets by the Hyundai dealer, there are always girls ready and willing.

A few years ago I was out there in the afternoon by the first intersection of alleys, and asked two girls if they both would take me. It was 70,000 won for each girl, which I thought was a bargain. One girl was older and not so good looking, but the younger girl was just so sweet. Not had anything like that in a long time.

I did have a girl off the A road on the first block area, not where the majority of houses are. This is the last block if you were driving into A road from by the motorcycle shop (south end).

I was just walking by and she talked to me in perfect English. Said she was just doing it to pay off some bills, and that she almost had enough money. She wanted 70,000, but she earned it. She was about 30, but very attractive and well taken care of.

I do agree that the alley closest to the train station side has the older women. I have had many encounters with women right at the entrance to the cross alleys from the train station side. Problem is they do stay around very long.

Maybe we need to post a map that can updated of some of the better places.

Photoman

11-30-03, 02:52

In the news:

South Koreans Run High Risk of Contracting HIV

SEOUL, Nov. 30 (Yonhap) -- South Koreans run a high risk of being exposed to HIV because the majority fail to use protection when engaging in sexual intercourse, a poll by a local health organization said Sunday.

The survey conducted by the Korean Anti-AIDS Federation on 1,955 adults nationwide found that 60 percent of the respondents said they rarely used condoms.

Song Seung Heon

12-01-03, 03:16

To Photoman,

What are you trying to prove? Are you trying to discourage us from going to these RlD's cuz you get turned away. You know that Korea exemption to Japan belong to the world's AIDS safer zones. these girls get issued licenses and get tested regularly to do what they are doing, especially with the required condom thumb rule, I don't see there is nothing to lose sleep over.

Song Seung Heon

12-01-03, 03:37

Can somebody give me a foreigner's perspective of what its like to go to these RLDs. And is it that foreigners are the most frequent visitors knowing they can't get laid, I rarely see Korean men.

I was wondering do the RLD's only accept Korean people, I do know for a fact they accept Japanese, but what about Chinese despite the growing AIDS epidemic and SARS scare?

And can somebody give me some update on these RLDS in Korea, I haven't been there in a while. Do they replace new girls every year?

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wsgtourist

12-01-03, 18:07

I was in Itaewon last week at 4AM. After coming out from the Lime Light I decided to take at tour of the hill to see what was available at that time in the morning.
I ended up at Starbutts. Had a great time for 100,000W. The only downside is that the girl will take you to an akward place to do the business (kind of under the roof and really very small). After we finished she asked to come with me to my hotel but at that point I was really to tired and had too many drinks.

On my way out I almost had an argument with a Korean customer (who pretended to be from NY) but everything eventually turned out fine. A guy from Boston acted as peacemaker.

Seould is good and safe fun.

ThePrince

12-02-03, 06:42

How's the Lotte World Hotel as a place to stay and a starting point vs. Grand Hyatt?

Stiff Drink

12-04-03, 03:29

Will be stopping over to the Hermit Kingdom later this month.

Was wonder what places would be good near the Hamilton hotel. The last time I was there. I checked out a barber shop nearby and all I was able to get was an expensive hand job and an average massage. Are there a lot of call girls nearby or an este nearby?
I am in Tokyo now. Maybe I can return the favor.

calvin32

12-04-03, 20:40

Met a young cute girl at a lobby of Hyatt Hotel where I'm staying. She asked me for time and noticed that she had that call girl look. I asked her if you was interested to come to my room for a drink and when she accepted, I knew I hit the jackpot. When we arrived into my room, she grab my hand a gave me a hug. So I returned with a kiss and before I knew it, she was giving me an oral and just blew me away. After slipping a condom on, we were going at it like bunch of high school kids. She may even pass as a high school kid. She moaned like I've never heard before and after an hour, I completed inside her month. She sucked me dry. Her name is Gina and keep your eyes open for her, cause she will make you very happy.

Seoul Blade

12-05-03, 04:14

Yellow Fever:

I don't know about the other two places you mentioned, but for a foreigner, Yong Ju Gol is really not worth visiting anymore. I'm sorry to say, but I think that place has pretty much shut down it business on foreigners now, just like Miari. I'm not joking.

FYI, Historically, at one time YJG was place foreigners (GIs, visitors, etc.) always went to have some fun, but that was a really long time ago. I also heard that STDs were rampant in those girls at that time because everyone was going bareback. Nowadays, girls have told my Korean buddies that, if any girl gets caught taking in a foreigner other than Japanese, they lose their jobs and get kicked out. Even if no customers are around, they will still not let in any foreigners. Isn't that hilarious? Last time I went, the pimps outside were acting like a bunch of thugs.

----

Speaking of thugs..

(Photoman, you must be a psychic, because you predicted exactly what happened to me) I went to 588 again a few days ago with one of my Korean friends. This was around 8 or 9pm. Aside from the usual Korean guys in their cars staring you down with the "hey foreigner, why are you here?" look, this time around we almost got into a little scuffle with a bunch of rowdy Korean guys hanging around the wide mainstreet, the one where cars drive towards Lotte Dept Store.

Those guys stared us down and made a really bad remark to my Korean friend as we were passing by, saying something about why he brought a foreigner there. My friend started arguing back. And then I could see all the ajushi's and pimps starting to gather around. It was really embarrassing. Some onlooking ajushi's, trying to end the conflict (or just trying to send us away), kept pushing us out toward the streets, telling us to just go home before anything happens. Eventually, we decided to walk away (actually, I kept trying to hold my friend back) while listening to their rants and jeers. It's funny though, I was the one trying to hold my friend back when the whole thing was about me. I know what you guys are thinking, but we had no choice: we would have been in a world of hurt if we stayed there, because there was a lot of them.

So, there you have it: this is 588 at night-time folks. The minute the sun goes away, I don't recommend going there. If you go at night, be really careful, because the girls WON'T look at you, but the guys WILL. In short, the girls will give you no attention, but the guys will give plenty--plenty that you don't need.

Not all was lost, though: we just ended up at a Yongsan. I never got any trouble there. Yongsan seems to be the only RLD left in Seoul where you can go and get decent results if you're a foreigner, no guys really start with you even at night, and the girls aren't as unfriendly. That night I did end up with a pretty cute A row girl, thanks to my friend's persistent soliciting =)

Happy Hunting people.

Venture Man

12-06-03, 18:59

This is a great forum. Typically it is not easy to find information on Seoul and South Korea for extracurricular activities.

Question to the group, any recommendations for good agency or independent who I can set up outcall escort for cocktails/dinner/late evening in Seoul. Is this something one of the better men's clubs could arrange?

VM

CanCan

12-06-03, 22:50

Man I remember when I was in Seoul back in 1998 (I was 19 yrs old then). This was a year after the 97 Asian crisis so business was real slow. A friend of mine took me to 588 to show me around and there was no clients at all on the streets. I saw this girl who looks very cute and young (17 yrs old), about 8 in looks and she told me to come on in. I declined though because I wanted to look around a little more before making a decision. After walking for about a block or so and checking out, I couldn't find something better than that girl so I returned and I asked her "will you gonna give me a good service"? " Then she promptly said yes and took me by my hand to the room upstairs. The room had mirror which was very nice to view her assets. She brought a case full of soaped water and cleaned my tools. Then proceeded with a very slow and relaxing back massage which was followed by a 'tongue massage' from the back to the down under. It was a very different feeling which I wasn't accustomed to and it felt pretty good. She basically licked the crap out of me, literally speaking LOL. Then she told me to turn around and slowly started licking my nipples then proceeded a BBBJ while I was fingering her little tight hole. She smelled good and her body was perfectly tanned and her face angelical.

After a good 5 min of bbbj, she rode me cowgirl. At first it looked like she was going to ride my cock bareback but she thought about it for a sec and put the condom on. (I think the fact that I'm a Korean visiting from US made her to decide to protect herself. My friend has done bareback the last time he was there )

Her moaning was unbelievable and I couldn't resist and I french kissed her. Lots of kissing, a nice GFE it was (actually better than GFE since she's a new girl lol). Cowgirl, reverse cowgirl (I was in heaven looking at her tight ass moving up and down), doggy style (it seemed that I couldn't hold it but somehow I managed to ), then missionary till I came. It was un unbelievable 35 min of experience. Then she brought me icy 'Bacchus' drink to regain the energy I just have spent. I even thought myself a pretty girl like this wouldn't even have to work this job in US. She could be like a model or something here in US. Uglier girls with bad attitude are so many here in US!

Well, after the session we hug each other good bye ,and she told me to come back. But the next day I had to fly back to US.

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Wicked Willie

12-07-03, 23:40

a RLD at Osan AFB????

When I was here in the early 90's, there was a nice little RLD outside Osan AFB that had some nice korean and fillippinos working - it is still there?

WW
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Wolf

12-08-03, 05:06

Calvin32,
How much did you pay the girl and could you also describe her so that we all can recognize her.
Thanks in advance.

Wolf

Song Seung Heon

12-09-03, 04:44

To CanCan,

Were there many hot girls back then? As it is right now? And what were the prices? its ironic how i was searching for places like that back at 98, and just went to the wrong places when it was really close.

CanCan

12-10-03, 02:27

To Kimchi Man

There were some hot girls , some decent ones but to tell you the truth there weren't whole lot of hotties. Or maybe my standard was quite high by then LOL (I was 19 , you know..).

I paid 45,000 Won back then, I don't know what's the going rate nowadays since I haven't gone back to Korea after that. But the experience I had with that cutie still haunts in my dreams.

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Wicked Willie

12-10-03, 03:55

I have came to the conclusion that the best times to hit Yongsan RDL are between 11am and 5pm. I usually find some really nice B+ A- girls available at that time.

For you FREELANCER boys that speak Korean - and ONLY if you speak Korean - here is a number for a nice 18yo that I hit this AM.

Don't ask me her name, I dont remember, and I can not read her Korean name.

011-9084-9834

I attached a scan of her business card for you guys who read Korean.

Anyone else got some hottie FREELANCER numbers to post - so far I seem to be it!!!!!

WW
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Timeoff

12-10-03, 09:18

Wicked Willie:

I may give this girl a call. Give us some details on this girl.

Looks
Service
Price

Sam Katz

12-10-03, 21:50

Her business card says her name is

Kang Suh Hwee

so just ask for Suh Hwee

I'm korean so if you guys want to know any phrases in Korean to speak to Suh Hwee just ask.

I actually have a card from Miari somewhere at my place, once I get a scanner I'll post it. If I can't use a scanner soon I'll just post the number and name once I find it. This card I have has like 3 numbers and even some kind of code at the top (I guess the address) so you can locate the glass house so it's a sure thing!

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize the word "I". To avoid future delays, please refrain from using "i" instead of a capital "I" in future reports. Thanks!

Wicked Willie

12-10-03, 23:43

Timeoff

Looks - GOGO from Kill Bill - cute, young, can't beat it

Service - typical RLD, BBBJ, covered in many positions, try to finish up in 20 min, etc......

Price - 70,000W

WW
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Hades

12-11-03, 04:46

Just wondering, Are there any Coffee Tabangs in Seoul. If so where are they and whats the cost of them these days?

Timeoff

12-11-03, 08:56

Wicket Willie

Thanks for the info. If she looks like Go-GO Yubari, I'm in for some excitement.

By the way her name is Kang Suh Hee

Wicked Willie

12-13-03, 05:32

Ah, did a little mongering on the Hill last night and got one of the Hill girls to go back to her place, dont remember the club, but man she was a little 23yo cutie. 1st chick I have hit that had "real" C/D cups and no babies, man did I suckle - ha!

Her name was Yu-mi (Pronounced YOU-ME) but I called her Yummy, I think she had heard that before.

I have misplaced her FREELANCER number, but as soon as I find it I will post it for you guys.

HERE IS THE NUMBER: 011-9226-6925!

She was pseudo-GFE. No kissing, but everything else was possible for 100,000W for an hour. A little more than what I like to pay, but I spent more time with her than most of the chicks at Yongsan RLD and I figure that kinda made up the differance.

WW
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Member #1484

12-16-03, 00:28

Hey all.

Can you all tell me where 588 is and how to get there? Also, how about the "Yellow House" in Incheon? Where is it?

Thanks in advance

Member #1484

12-16-03, 00:36

What is a TABANG and where are some in Seoul/Incheon area? Directions and locations would be great. I have only been here a little bit, so what do I look for?

Thanks

Hades

12-17-03, 04:57

A Tabang is where you can grab a coffee and grope a girl while drinking coffee.

Im not really after the whole sex thing. But having your hands down her shirt or up her dress while sipping coffee and watching TV would be great.

So come on people. WHERE ARE THE TABANGS HERE IN SEOUL! I DONT WANNA HAVE TO GO DOWN TO PUSAN TO DO THIS!

Wicked Willie

12-19-03, 07:18

Where is everyone? I seem to be about the only person posting anything lately.

Well, got bored (ha!) and went down to the Yongsan RLD this am round about 4:30am to see what might be happening and low and behold - my little A- chick was working on the cross alley I have mentioned previously.

So, 70,000W later, MR happy was very happy indeed!

For you guys here is her FREELANCE CARD!

DO NOT abuse this young lady - she is the tops!

WW
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P.S. Folks ask for vitals - OK

Age: very early 20s (19, 20, 21)
Ht: 5'2 to 5'4
Wt: 100 to 110
Skin: Dark for a Korean (tan?), but VERYYYYY smooth
Tata's: Very firm B cups

BBBJ, covered everything else, light kissing, loves reverse cowboy - and man what a sight! Sweet as can be and little to no english.

Member #1484

12-20-03, 02:44

W.W.,

Does she speak english? Give us her vitals, a 10?

CanCan

12-20-03, 22:51

WW.

Are you sure that business card owner is a working girl's?

Under the letter "Free Lancer the management co". it says "import products, wholesale retail" in Korean.

Wicked Willie

12-21-03, 23:59

CanCan,

Gee, uh, she gave it to me and said this is my business card - call me.

Did you think maybe that was on there to keep some nosey Ajuma from asking questions if she found it in her old mans clothes or something????

WW
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Song Seung Heon

12-22-03, 03:18

Regarding Yongsan RLD,

Can somebody explain why these girls suspect im on drugs? Awhile ago, I remember I went there a little drunk and the girl I chose refused to take me in because she thought I was on drugs? I still can't figure out why. I told her that I wasn't and she refused to believe me. Since I refused to leave, she called the pimp and next thing I knew he was chasing my butt off to take me to the police station. Luckily, I got away because all I wanted was to get laid, and didn't want any further trouble. And ever since that happened, I haven't been there back ever since.

ny_seoul

12-22-03, 05:46

That is exactly right.

The business card I got recently at Yongsan RLD also had a "mock" place of business to throw off your girlfriend / wife / associate who may happen to find the card.

The girl told me the only thing correct is my name and mobile number.

By the way, it seems that the going rate is 60,000 for locals. Also, it is the first time I got Asian during a Yongsan quickie. Frankly, I'm personally not into it but whatever...

Wicked Willie

12-22-03, 15:22

Kimchi,

The girls think this, well, because for the most part they are pretty f-in dumb. Their pimps tell them westerners have STDS, beat them, rob them, hurt them, do drugs, etc, etc, etc - so they will only boff the oriental guys. Then the pimps chase off anyone they dont want nailing their girls.

The girls are stupid enough to believe it because that is what the Korean men do to them - so why not westerners.

It is penis envy for the most part.

You gotta play by their stupid rules, not matter how dumb and idiotic they are.

WW
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Song Seung Heon

12-23-03, 02:12

To Wickedwille,

BTW, I am Korean.

NY Yankees

12-23-03, 05:58

WW,

The forum had this heated discussion not too long ago, let's not create another or digress away from the topic.
What you are saying is credible but it's also like saying all caucasians are white trash, all blacks are drug dealers and crimininals and the french don't shower...

So let's stop talking about that and get back on topic.

Seoul Blade

12-23-03, 13:22

WW,

Although I can sympathize with your anger and disgust at these things, you are really generalizing too much on this. That was really unnecessary.

You make lewd comments on this board (like "penis envy") and others when you yourself know that there are other Koreans reading this board, including many of my punting friends. That's just not right man. You need to chill and stop being as ignorant as the Korean guys who are racist themselves.

EDIT :: I rest my case. Read Kimchi Man's reply below.

Secondly, I personally wouldn't trust the cleanliness of any girl who has ever been with you, since you seem content not using any condoms when you do them. Maybe that's why they think we have STDs...

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Kimchi Man,

EDIT :: Ignore the comment I made below. I didn't know you were Korean.

I can relate with you man. It wasn't about drugs--she knows you're clean; she was just saying that because she didn't really know how to say "no" to you since you were a foreigner. About the pimp's kicking you out and calling the police, though, I never really got that kind of treatment in Yongsan. Did you somehow force yourself into the glass doors or scare the girl in any way, provoking the pimps to approach you? I know that those girls get easily scared and go nuts if you just decided to walk in without a word. I saw some guys try to do that several times, and the pimps do come out right away.

I really don't know...Yongsan was never a real problem when I go with my Korean friends; 588 and YJG always gave me problems: the girls don't look (even when I go with Korean buddies--they only look at them), the guys in their cars stare, and customers who walk by ogle you down.

With that said, does anyone have any nice new venues they can share? Personally, any great new non-pro places besides 'Shitaewon?' Has anyone been to Club Wet in HongDae, by chance?

Paddy23

12-23-03, 17:04

Havent posted in a while as been getting it for free lately:)
Reckon Seoulblade is right, lets start giving info reagarding no pros too...
Pretty easy in this city, and particularly the off duty hostess girls in Itaewon...
here are some places I have been lucky"
X0-mainly balck guys in there but always hot, slutty korean girls, often packed in midweek..also a few times Korean guys have come up to me and introduced me to Korean girls..weird..but my only exclamation is that they hate the thought of a black guy shagging 'their' women so I am the slightly better alternative.
Limelight-obvious but loads of slappers there.
Seoul Pub-Midweek, normally a few office girls or students hanging around, just play pool with them and bring them to antoher bar
Space bar-usually a few freaks there and some sluts..can be hit and mimss but have quite a bit of success there...Stay away from any of the waitresses, they have problems, both mental and physical.

Do not go to Hongdae much, but might be moving there soon so would appreciate any info

cheers

paddy

NY Yankees

12-23-03, 20:17

I really don't know how the Hongdae scene might be for non-koreans but as far as I know, Hongdae is a really good place for korean guys to meet hot chicks

Wicked Willie

12-23-03, 20:23

TO SEOUL and NY,

You guys need to go back and actually READ what I wrote - you assume that when I wrote of penis envy, I was referring to Koreans in general - I WAS NOT!

I was referring to the PIMPS specifically.

YOU NEED TO CHILL. The girls working on the RLD's are not rocket scientists, brain surgeons or any such thing. Most are out of high school, if that. So they have a very naive outlook on life and base their views on what they are told.

That was what I was referring to - not some race riot on the boards.

And SEOUL - you actually ?trust? the girls you see?

To KIMCHI,

When I wrote my reply, I assumed (wrong guess) that you were a westerner since that is usually what happens to us when the pimps dont want us to play with the girls.

My guess would be that the girls have probably seen some "dopey" guys come through and are on the look out for those type of customers - can you blame them?

WW
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Wicked Willie

12-23-03, 20:25

So, does anyone else have any FREELANCER phone numbers or contacts????

I seem to be the only one recently posting anything.

Come on guys - share the wealth!

WW
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NY Yankees

12-23-03, 20:30

Kimchi man,

I'm not trying to criticise you so don't take it the wrong way.
First of all, you admit you were drunk, and most of these girls don't like drunk customers, esp if they are heavily drunk. I've heard horror stories about many drunken men creating havoc.
I think being a little high might be alright but being waay to drunk, I can see from the girls' perspective.
Still I'm not insinuating that you were pissed drunk, I wasn't there, I wouldn't know.
You know, what maybe considered passably drunk to one might not be considered passable to others, if there is such a thing.
One trade that many drunk people have(including me) is always denying that they are not drunk even when they are, adamantly stating they are merely high, this in my view is the result of many drunk driving accidents.

I'm wondering you might have done something wrong without you not knowing it, something unintentional maybe....
I've seen many drunk man in RLDs and usually they are ignored unless they are causing major mayhem.

But as mentioned earlier, most girls do not wish to entertain heavily drunk man.
Next time visit the RLD without an ounce of alcohol intake, I'm sure you'll be welcomed with open arms. :)

NY Yankees

12-23-03, 20:39

To WW,

Your message is noted and I'm sure you didn't mean any intentional harm to begin with. But you earlier message sure didn't seem that way, maybe you should have rephrased it in another way. I'm sure most will read your message the way I read it. Anyway let's put it to rest, christmas is here! :)
BTW, has it yet snowed in seoul? I have been away for some month and will only be back in mid Jan.

Seoul_Blade,

"Shitaewon." That's funny. I think the city should make that the official name from now on!

Seoulmate

12-24-03, 03:46

My first post in several months. I have been home in Canada for
6 months and am logging in for the first time since I got back.
I can't believe Miari has gone "no foreigner". I liked it there.
It's a little scummy but you could get cute girls for twice the time in 588 for 50 - 60,000W

To: Nedski and others asking about Tabangs.

I have not actually been in one and left Seoul without ever
trying one. But there are many of them in Seoul. I lived in Kuri
and there were many in the market area. They are very plain looking store fronts with generally only Korean lettering. If you ask someone how it looks in Korean you will start spotting them
all over the place. I used to take the bus from Kuri to ChongRyangRi and saw several out the window of the bus as I neared ChongRyang Ri. I will attach a photo of how it looks in Korean for those who don't know.

To whoever asked how to get to 588 (I'm sure it is posted several times back on this forum) but :
If you are standing facing Lotte Department store ( pronounced Lote Dae - not lot ) in ChongRyangRi, go around the building on the left side and then turn right behind the building and keep walking. It is pretty obvoius whuch are A and B rows. There are some cute B girls to be had if you look but I would recommend Yongsan over 588. More cute girls seem to accept foreigners there. Still not in the A rows though.

I hope to be back in Korea in the spring.

Song Seung Heon

12-24-03, 11:56

What was so ironic about the expierience was that I am Korean and really handsome as well. I just do not understand till this day. Like I said, even when I am not drunk, the girls still think I am on drugs. About that encounter with the pimp chasing me to take me to the police station, yes, I admit I was really tramautized because I never expected that to happen. I expected to get laid as usual, and it turned out to be the opposite, I happened to be banned from going there. Whenever I set foot, I am always cautious of the pimp because he is always after me.

To NY Yankee,

I wasn't really drunk at all. I drank a glass or two of soju. It wore out by the time I arrived. Actually the girl I chose would take me in if she believed that I was drunk rather than being high on drugs. I pleaded to her several times and she wouldn't believe me. She even tried to smell my breath to really see in fact I was drinking, but I refused because bad kimchi breath.

To westerners,

Its not just you guys who get the wrong end of the stick. Look at me, I am korean, young, and handsome, and I never imagined to get banned. hmmmmmmm? what I find so strange is how these girls who would be completely nuts for my attention would just change the next day after a little drinking. Now they completely ignore me.

Hades

12-25-03, 04:20

Cool thanks for the Korean translation. So like how much do they really cost. A real fear for me is to go into a sex place and not have enough money on me, making me look like a poor slob! :P

Are they foreigner friendly?

NY Jimmy

12-25-03, 04:23

To Wicked Willie,

About the free lancer Yu-Mi, you mentioned that for 100,000 everything was possible, I assume that does not include anal, does it?

Also, thank you for posting Ms. Kown Soo Young's card, I have been looking for escorts in Seoul for a long time, I wil try her next month when I go back to Seoul.

NY Yankees

12-25-03, 06:06

>>Like I said, even when I am not drunk, the girls still think I am on drugs. About that encounter with the pimp chasing me to take me to the police station, yes, I admit I was really tramautized because I never expected that to happen. I expected to get laid as usual, and it turned out to be the opposite, I happened to be banned from going there. Whenever I set foot, I am always cautious of the pimp because he is always after me. <<

To kimchi man,

Man, you are pretty conceited.... Furthermore, your story doesn't add up. You wrote that the girls ALWAYS think you are on drugs, and the pimps are ALWAYS after you and that you are pretty much banned from this place. And yet you wrote that you expected to get laid as USUAL..... huh? Am I missing something here? When you are pretty much turned away most of the time, how do you get laid as usual. Explain that....

And if the girls think you are on drugs even when you are not and sober.........

Either that or you have caused some trouble there before and the girls have blacklisted you for some reason. To be banned, it means they pretty much recognize your face and that means, you frequent the RLD pretty darn often....

Oscolar

12-25-03, 15:30

To Paddy123,

I an out-of-towner. I don't even know Itaewon very well. Where are the XO, Limelight, Seoul Club, and Space Bar? Are they in Itaewon? Where roughly?

Much appreciated.

Hades

12-25-03, 16:25

Just a little report on my first little step into the dark side.

First of all I just wanted to have a look up hooker hill by myself. I got the usual come in come in. I declined. On the way down, this tall fake blonde one gestured me to come in. I went over to say im married, but once you see part of her nipple hanging out from her bikini top, My resolve faltered.

She said "Beer, 5000", and im like, what the heck. So I come in, she gets me a beer. She has also locked the door which makes me a little nervous. Anyway I hand over 5000 and sit down. She makes me comfortable and then starts feeling me up. Im like WHOA. I just want to look. Not touch. She then says "Buy me whiskey 20,000" Im like No I dont want anything more then a beer and to look.

Throughout this whole experience there is something offputting about her voice. Like I feel the tits and they are fake "My first pair I have ever felt" I am desperately trying to see thru the dimly lit room if there is an adams apple. Anyway she loses interest as soon as she sees im not gonna spend anymore money. Starts looking through the door for more suckers. I try to strike up a conversation to see if I had just felt up a transexuals breast. Im a little concerned.

I then ask. "Dont be angry, but are you a girl or a boy." She looks at me puzzled and I dumb it down a bit. She then gets the idea and lifts up her short skirt to show her pussy. I then say, "Look they can cut it off". This is when I get hustled out and she says im a "Wierdo" I smile, appologise, leave and make sure no one can see me leave.

This place was opposite the space bar, or something like it. I know I may sound homophobic, but I just dont like the idea of feeling up a guy even if they do look like a chick.

This girl was tall, blondish hair and thin.

After leaving this place, I felt all previous taboo's fall away. People didnt instantly jump out of the woodwork and condemn me for what I had just done.

So I decided to check out this other place near my house. I knew something was suspicious because it was underground. Anyway I walked in and it was a nice setup and this nice 30's woman came over and looked at me wierdly. I tried to look innocent and say "Hite Beer" She nodded and I sat down and got a beer and paid 5000 for it. I was hoping one of the girls in the other couches would come over and "interact" but she was glued to the television.

Anyway I soon caught on it was a kinda Naure-bang. Some nice girls came out of the rooms and there were old dudes as well. Im like. Fucking cool. I want to go in there. How do I do it? I was hoping they would offer but they never did. I finished my beer and left.

I have a photo of the place. Could someone translate for me please. Also what to say next time?

I also have the courage to go to Yongsan now and get it one with one of the ladies. No sex tho, Im still too scared of HIV.

Vox Jox

12-26-03, 03:13

Isu Station, street with hookers (warning -- long!)

I would like to report on a street near Isu Station, about which I have not seen any postings on this board.

I had not heard of this area before tonight, and the way I found out about it was funny. I was on a date with a Korean girl (I am American) in Sadang, and she made a face and said "there is a place with a lot of *****s near here." Pretending not to be too interested, I asked where. She told me it was near Isu Station. (She went on to say that she had signed a contract for an apartment near there, and had made a down payment on it, before going to check out the place at night with her brother, and seeing that it was next to a "sleazy area" -- as she put it. She eventually got out of the contract and got most of her down payment back.) I asked if men drove down the street or walked, and she said they were on foot. I did not ask any more questions, I had what I needed.

The date was ending, so I walked her to Sadang station, sent her on her way, and high-tailed it to Isu (one stop north on the blue line). I was in the mood for walking around, so I decided to cover the entire area near the station. I figured the place would not be too far from the subway stop, as it would need to be in a location convenient enough for drunken ajushis. I was expecting to find a mini-RLD, with the requisite red lights. I was walking down one street and thought, "Why are all the businesses here closed? It's a busy night. What is that girl doing sitting behind the glass door? She's looking at me. Oh my god, I'm here." Needless to say, the place is not brightly lit and obvious.

All the girls were wearing white and sitting behind small glass doors. Their clothes were just cute -- not hanbok like at Miari, or super sexy like at 588 and Yongsan. There are not more than three girls at each place. The area covers only two small blocks, and there are maybe 15 places in all. I only saw maybe 10 Korean guys the half-hour I was there. The view from the street is not the sexy show that you get at the aforementioned places, but it has its appeal. Those of you with somewhat high standards may find fault with it, but I found it enjoyable. My first pass through, I just got the lay of the land, so to speak. I stopped at a few places, knocked on the doors, and got some of the snooty, we-do-not-serve-foreigners looks, as well as some women who talked to me. I used my limited Korean to find out how much it cost: W50,000. Not bad. My second pass through, I waited for a Korean guy and followed him. Girls were stepping outside into the cold to give him an "Oppa" shout-out ("Brother!") and try to get him to come in, which they did not do for me.

Long story short: I ended up at one place. W50,000 quote (US $40), went in, sat down in front of the heater, had a beer, got warm, paid the money, and chatted. There were two girls and two mamasans. This is where I almost had a problem. After about 10 minutes of a beer each for one girl and me, and friendly conversation, I said "Let's go to the back room together."
"Oh, no, no sex," is the reply.
"Ha ha ha, that's funny, let's go."
"No, really, no sex here."
"But I just paid W50,000." (sickening feeling) "Please give me back my money."
I struck a compromise: Give me back W40,000, keep W10,000 for the beer, and I will be on my way. They agreed!

Weird. I cannot figure it out. Korean guys were obviously having sex on this street; I saw two taken into the back room at another place. So, what is with the whole pay-to-eat-snacks angle? That is one I have not heard before.

I ended up going to the only double-pole massage place on the street. I paid W70,000 for a massage and intercourse, which I negotiated up front. The girl was friendly, had a good attitude, and talked a lot. Three negatives: her pussy could have smelled better -- and that is really inexcusable in her line of work; she could lose 15 pounds; and cut the phony moaning during the sex. The phony orgasm can go, too. Question for the Korean guys on the board: Is it okay to say "ha-jee-mah" ("stop it") when they do that, or would that be too rude? How about a "chom ha-jee-mah" ("please stop it")? I am looking for something along the lines of "Would you mind not doing that?"

By the way, for those of you who have not been to the double-pole "barber shops" and are waiting to get your courage up to go -- like I was -- just do it. They are comfortable and the staff is welcoming at the three places to which I have been. There is no pretense of it being a "barber shop." You do not have to go in, wink, and ask for the "haircut special" and hope they understand you are there for sex. Just enter, smile, say "hi," take of your shoes, and they will lead you to a private room, with a massage table, in a somewhat dark area in the back, where you will be asked to pay. "Ohl-mah-eh-yo?" is how you ask the price of something. The going rate for a massage that lasts about 45 minutes and ends in a hand job seems to be W60,000 (in non-trendy areas). Just ask for what you want and be flexible. The service has been professional and friendly each place that I have been.

Okay, now the directions for which you have been waiting. Exit Isu Station on Line 2 (the blue line), get to the southwest corner of the main intersection above the station, and walk a short block south and turn right. You are there. Follow Korean guys in to get the full show. Good luck, and please report. It is worth checking out and talking to the girls. Just make sure it is clear that you want sex. It is not a given there, apparently, as it is elsewhere in this fine city.

Paddy23

12-26-03, 08:05

Oscolar,

All those places are within a minutes walk of the subway station. If you go to www.worknplay.co.kr and click on bars/clubs you will see a link to itaewon and a map and review for most of the nightlife in the area..very handy.

Have seen a few sports massage places around and just wondering if they are legit. They do not look like places where you can get extras. They have a two feet logo and often pics of massage on the sign. I saw one just before city hall, just after you go thru the namsan tunnel on the right.Same thing with thai massage written in english...

Anyone know?

cheers
paddy

Oscolar

12-26-03, 13:10

Many thanks, Paddy.

Like the 'mental and physical' bit, :)

Cheers mate

Seoulmate

12-26-03, 19:36

To Vox Jox,

I had the exact same eperience when I first went to Korea.
There are several places in Seoul like this that I have seen.
I can't think of the subway stop names now. The 50,000
you paid was just for the beer. If you wanted more you need to pay more. Much more! 2-300,000 Won more. The first time I went to one of these was in the market area of Guri. Generally foreiners are ignored in these places. One girl came out and chatted to me and asked me in for drinks (50,000 Won). What I didn't realize was that is all she meant to give me - drinks) Other than a few gropes initiated by me - that is all I got . I complained like you and claimed I was being ripped off but it was no use so I left. A few months later I tried again at another place. Same thing exactly except when I asked for more i was told it would be another 300,000W . The 50,000W was just for the drinks. So I left but at least i knew the score in these places. Of course that was the last one I went into.

Red 73

12-27-03, 13:26

Paddy23,

In my experience, only a very few of the Sports Massage places are massage-only. For me, the trick has been figuring out which are HJ-only, and which offer FS. I really think someone needs to publish a Zagat Guide for Seoul Sports Massages. As a rule of thumb, the ones that tend to emphasize the different types of massages available (Swedish, Shiatsu, etc.), tend to be massage only, and the ones that only say Sports Massage offer more.

I think the HJ/FS is also girl dependent, but for some places it must be policy. Others can correct me, but I've been to the Capitol Hotel Sports Massage a number of times, and only ever received a HJ, while the Hamilton has always been FS.

Red 73

Vox Jox

12-27-03, 16:44

Yongsan RLD visit

I went to Yongsan tonight, as I hadn't been there since my first trip to Korea eight months ago. At that time, even with my Korean friend with me, we were turned down on the "A" row, and as he didn't know about the "B" rows, we moved on. Thanks to those of you, like Seoulmate and Wicked Willie, who posted on this board about the "B" rows.

Tonight I found a girl named So Young at a corner booth one block east of the main drag. The price was W70,000 for full service. She was somewhat mechanical, but hot as hell. She even has a little dot on her nose, like Jun Ji Hyun. Check it.

It is easy to find this place. Go to Sonyongsan Station on the blue line, take exit #3, walk to the first intersection, turn right, and you will see the first glass houses up the street on your left. There wasn't much traffic tonight, so I walked down the main drag, and got one nice smile of the "You aren't getting any of this, but nice try" variety. On the side streets, more girls were willing, and some were hot.

NY Jimmy

12-28-03, 14:12

To Paddy23,

I would avoid places with two feet logo, as they are usually foot massage (especially the one you mentioned).

However, at sports massage places (even if they look legit,) you will get extras. Most will give you a nice bath, a very good massage (including a walk on the back) a BBJ or CBJ (lately) and FS. Some may not offer FS but most do. That will set you back between 180,000-200,000. You also will be there for at least an hour.

Of course you could also try the barber shops with the 2-3 poles. They often offer FS and would cost you 70,000-80,000, but they don't speak English. However, you will have no trouble finding them since they are everywhere (BBJ is also offered). Typically the old lady that gives the massage is not the one that gives the extras (she is typically much younger) so don't start groping the first one.

Seoulmate

12-29-03, 03:15

Oscolar,

The space bar is part way up Hooker Hill on the right side.
Seoul Pub is opposite and to the left of ther Hamilton hotel(if facing the hotel) and upstairs. Good bar! Was picked up by a gorgeous half Korean/half japanese chick once in there.

Nedski:

The picture seems to be of a Coffee shop. These types of coffee
shops have girls available and the giveaway is usually the phone number on the sign. I think they are similar to tabangs. You can call up and order coffee and it is brought to your room by the girl.
I have not tried this though.
Anyone have more insight on these?

kim_jung_ho

12-29-03, 04:10

Nedski,

The name of the place is "Akasaka", I presume it is down by the Han-nam Dong side of the Itaewon strip. It might cater for the Japanese tourists, note the Japanese script on the upper right of the sign.

It is not a coffee shop, the sign also says Maek-Ju, Yong-Ju (Beer, Western Drinks); it seems to be a da-ram-ju-jeom.

Seasons Greetings

Joe116

12-29-03, 07:17

Nedski,

Additional on the sign photo you posted. I can't read Korean, but the Japanese on it says "Akasaka", meaning "Red Castle".

Cheers.

Member #1484

12-29-03, 13:11

Can you guys please tell me where 588 is? What's the nearest Subway stop and directions, I have been looking for it and would like to give it a go.

Thanks

Wicked Willie

12-29-03, 23:24

Vox Jox,

Was that the young lady I posted her freelancer card up on a few weeks ago? It kinda sounds like her.

WW
MDB

HavingFun22

12-30-03, 00:24

Anyone want to get together and explore some of these areas? I'm getting sick of the hill but would love to check out some other places.

HavingFun22

12-30-03, 02:25

Posted by Gameover in March 03:

My recommendation for FS barbershop (posted before but here it is again)

Go to Yeoksam St. and exit towards the Rodamco Tower. There is a Starbucks on the first floor. If you're standing in front of the entrance to Starbucks, look across the street and you'll see a small alley running directly away from Starbucks. Walk down this street until the first cross street (again, a small alley-like road) and turn left. You'll see a couple double-poles with a pink sign called "Pinkl Hyugyetel" (written in Korean but you really can't miss it.)

Is this place still around and if so is the service and price about the same?

Stiff Drink

12-30-03, 19:38

I am back in the Hermit Kingdom and I am having a blast.

I checked out the hill. ViP is a very good experience while one of the drink rip offs on the left side of the hill should be avoided like the plague, unless you like to pay without getting any play.

I had full service at ViP after a little chit chat.

I also tried a barbershop in Yongsan. She was very chatty and friendly a real GFE even though I really don't speak Korean. All in all, quite a good experience.

HavingFun22

12-31-03, 18:46

Gina, Gina, Gina. (HH)

Damn who ever recomended her is the MAN!

She was one of the best New Years I have had, a true GFE. She was very friendly and willing to do anything but anal. I'm actually pretty much speachless about her.

100,000 for 1 hr well worth it.

ME

Wicked Willie

01-01-04, 18:51

Havingfun22,

She is a little tiger isn't she?

You should get her sometime around 5am for a long time session. 200,000W from 5am until whenever - usually noon.

If you loved 1 hr, imagine 6 or 7, and 4 or 5 goes at it.

Gina is the way all the girls should be!

WW
MDB

TheContinental

01-01-04, 20:23

The Shinyoungsan RLD is probably the most convenient RLD in Seoul. Up until recently the place was devoid of foriegners because nobody knew about it. Now, I doubt I would bother since it seems so over-run; It's probably about to become the defacto "Plan C" when people don't get laid in Itaewan on Saturdays. Anyone ever notice how all the RLDs have subway stops?

As far as getting hos, well in my experience the only real variable is money. If you are willing to spend 100,000 then those "row A" girls will bend over for you. Personally, I never thought the "Row A" girls were that interesting. I have had a few "Row B" girls who used to be "A" and found them pretty good as they lost the attitude once they were demoted.

I have not posted on this board in several months as my Seoul trip has been delayed (by years, unfortunately). But, I still see that NY Yankees is still getting overly moral, and we still have the usual obnoxious posters.

Nico

01-01-04, 20:36

Oh how I miss Gina. I had her once from 11pm to 11am for 300.000W I am desperatly trying to get back to Korea. She has got to be my ATF.

Wicked Willie

01-02-04, 22:59

Well,

I can say without a doubt, that the best time to hit Yongsan RLD is around 5am. All the drunks have left, most of the girls are winding down, and if you go on a Saturday morning or Sunday morning, you can find more A- & B+ girls left from working the night before.

Went on Friday AM, found this cutie on the B row closest to the main street, liked her so much, went back this AM (Sat) and there were even MORE cuties out. Got her at 5:45, and when I left at 6:15, all the cuties were gone. I guess they closed up at 6am. So get out there around 5am guys for some little cuties! This one did not have a card or I would post her FREELANCER number for you guys - but I might just keep this one to myself!

WW
MDB

Red 73

01-04-04, 01:53

All,

I know that some Korean pharmacies carry Viagra. Any tips on where and how much it costs?

Red 73

East Tech

01-04-04, 02:33

If anyone is looking for some Hotel service, check out the English version of the Korean Herald for an ad for Sports Massage. Be careful there are two ads for massage one is associated with nail Service as well. You want the other one, it also mentions 24 hour service. The person who answers the phone speaks some english. The rate was 200,000 KRW but that might have been higher since I was about 25 mins outside of Seoul. The girl arrived on time and was pretty hot. Gave a nice massage and then full service, no questions asked.

Enjoy

Lone Palm

01-04-04, 04:49

I'm new here.

This group has been very informative, and enjoyable. Well Friday A.M. around 4:00 i went to Yongsan RLD, lots of cuties some were interested on the B rows found one that looked good, she wanted w180,000. My offer was w60,000. My bargaining skill suck. So went on home.

Later tried a two pole barber, first timer. Again my bargaining skills were not good, they asked w100,000, my counter was w60,000. That is when, in very poor English, was told other places just HJ, this place did FS, and said very pretty girl. So got him down to w90,000 and with a hell of boner agreed.

Then went to a barber chair a few minutes later a young (early 20’s) and pretty girl came in. She saw that that I was American and left. I could hear her talking and the only part I understood was “ American what can I do” so another few minutes pass and a better looking girl came in (smaller rack be the rest was better) received a good massage. Then was taken to another room. She got naked put me on a take and gave me what, I think a sports massage. She then started an ok BJ, and finished with very good FS.

I a great time and was there for about an hour and a half.

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GameOver

01-04-04, 05:13

As far as I know, Finkle Barbershop is still up and running (it was 3 weeks ago) with generally the same service. The quality of girls is down a bit but still one of the best for FS barbershop.

100,000 will get you a very quick massage, off to the room for a shower (alone), and a pretty funky good time. Every girl had a different style (different from textbook other places) but they all do everything but anal (although I have a feeling you could get this with a bit of negotiation and extra cash)

NY Yankees

01-04-04, 11:47

Hey TheContinental,

Nice to see you still haven't lost your ego. Who made you the judge of this forum anyway?

I'm suprised you don't consider yourself one of us "usual obnoxious posters," We just made you honorary chairman for life! :P You didn't get the email?

After heavy discussion, despite many of us being just as obnoxious as any, we came to the conclusion that we couldn't compare with TheContinental.

I mean, even your nick justifies your position! :P

Dude, why are you always so disgruntled and opinionated? Take it easy man. I have no idea what I have done to really [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) you off and if I do recall correctly, I apologised and called truce to our differences. I thought we've settled our differences and I have never singled you out for anything thus far.

Again, I'm trying to act like a responsible grown up and let bygones be bygones and start afresh.

Seriously, I've never met you or hurt anyone close to you, so why all the hate man? Did I once take your seat in the subway? LOL.

Let's try to act responsible, why the need to hold on to grudges? It's 2004, lets not hog up the thread with our ego battles.

Hampton Inn

01-05-04, 21:20

GINA!

For those of you that have had experiences with Gina, is it the Gina that works from the Rouse? It's on the hill in Itewon. I was there visiting a friend this spring and had a couple of evenings with Gina at the Rouse. 100,000 won for everything but anal. Got bbbj, 69, and F/S covered with no time limit. Only one release per session, but I must've been there two hours each time. At the place right across the street ( I know, there's a million on the hill, but I can't remeber the name of it), I was offered everything for 70,000. The girl was not nealy as hot as Gina, but cute and nice bod. He exact words were "I'll give you my ass for 70,000"

If Gina had been busy, I'd have taken her up on it in a minute.

Be Smart, or at least smarter than me.

Piero #2

01-05-04, 23:17

Hi Folks !

I will be in Korea the next week and I will be based in the Gangnam-gu area.

Any "nice" place close to me?

Any suggestion for me ? ;-)

Thanks

Piero

Bless This Man

01-06-04, 13:32

Visited South Korea on the 16th, met with some friends during the day and asked where to find local talent, I mentioned if they knew other places similar to Miari. They told me to forget those areas unless I wanted to catch something nasty, so they took me somewhere special, a club, unknown to foreigners and known only to some locals.

And the women, you may ask? Each one amazingly beautiful, a collection of models,

Eventually I settled with a lady called Hanjoo. She was absolutely a stunner, a bit shy, couldn't speak a word of English and I couldn't speak Korean, but who cared? Still as the evening went we understood each other very well. About midnight I took her back to my hotel, to spend the night together, and well the rest is private.

The place is called Rio, they have a website www.rrio.co.kr

Expensive? Perhaps, I was invited so I can only assume it was.

I also think possibly you will need to come with a Korean national, as foreigners may well be rejected on their own, but if you do, the place is superb. I can recommend it.

RB

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Sam Katz

01-06-04, 20:10

Bless This Man,

Dude, that place is just another room salon in Kang Nam. Theres probably over 1000 room salons in that area it's all the same. Get a room buy the alcohol the girls talk to you and flirt all night. They cost like 300-700 USD and sometimes more to bring the girl back to the hotel. I never been to one but I heard it ain't nothing special, just stick to RLDs unless you got mad cash to blow.

Sam Katz

ny_seoul

01-07-04, 06:20

Bless This Man

It sounds like the place you went to is a room salon.

Actually, these places are very well known to locals and there are tons of them in the city. I have heard there are many grades of room salons. They are also known by many names -- Room Salons, Business Clubs, "Dal-Lan-Joo-Jum", etc. The most exclusive clubs (1%) are off-limits to all but the most affluent locals (that's not me!).

There is a Korean site vip24.com that has many articles on these places in addition to "adult" nightlife in Korean including night clubs (where you can get "booked' or some that have ladies to take upstairs to the adjoining hotel), various ways to get to pros including red light districts. Only problem is it's in Korean. In addition to get to most of the stuff you need to register, which requires a Korean SSN.

On a related note, on that site it seems that many of the wilder places in Buk-Chang-Dong (near city hall) have lowered their prices. I have seen specials for 450,000 for 2 people including ladies, 1 setting of drinks. In these clubs, the ladies will at least finish you off with a BJ. Each session, which includes singing, stripping, etc. lasts about 2 hours.

Buk-Chang-Dong is known for the explicitness within the room but often they do not go out for "round 2" early in the evening.

Fat Shaft

01-07-04, 11:57

Hi Everyone,

I am off to Seoul for the first time tommorrow for a couple of days on my way to the states and will try out some of the places mentioned.

However on the way back, I have 6 long and lonely hours to kill at the Seoul Airport. Anyone know of a massage place or full service place inside the airport and as to how much will it cost.

Would sincerely appreciate details on the same please.

Thanks ever so much

Happy Mongering

Fat Shaft

Chaos17

01-07-04, 18:21

I've been a lurker for some time now, and it's time that I contributed something...

These are my takes on the RLDs of Seoul. Keep in mind, I am Korean and speak Korean fluently. As we are probably all aware, Koreans and non-Koreans do get treated differently at these places, so your individual experiences may differ from mine.

588: The largest of the 3 major RLDs, this area probably, in my opinion, has the hottest looking girls. They are usually dressed in skimpy outfits, often baring their midriffs. This makes it easy to see their figure, although one must keep in mind that they are almost always wearing high heels or platform shoes. Their shoes are often covered by their pants, so I have made it my standard practice to mentally subtract at least 3-4 inches from each girl's apparent height. In my experience, most of the girls in RLDs are around the same height anyway.

588 is also probably the busiest of the three RLDs, especially on Friday and Saturday nights. On the downside, the service is general not as good at 588. Perhaps it's because the girls know they are in high demand, but I've always felt that they have a greater tendency to be clock-watchers.

Miari: Almost as large as 588, Miari is a bit different from the other RLDs in that ah-jum-mas (older Korean women) act as madams. There is a greater tendency for these ah-jum-mas to (forcibly) grab you as you walk through the alleys, in an attempt to get you stand in front of the glass windows and look at the selection of girls. While I don't like the presence of the ah-jum-mas in general, they do allow one to browse the selection without having to deal with the girls directly. (I personally have a harder time rejecting a girl to her face.) The girls at each place are usually dressed in some sort of standardized costume like an evening gown. This, combined with the fact that they are usually presented while sitting down, can make it difficult to determine a girl's figure.

Once a selection is made, you are taken up to a noh-rae-bang (private karaoke room), where you are given a light snack (usually fruit) and refreshments (beer). After a short time of interaction, you can then go to the private rooms for individual fun. Miari has the smallest rooms of the three RLDs. They're basically the size of large closets, just barely big enough to fit a Korean-style mattress on the floor.

According to many on this forum, Miari is probably the most anti-foreigner of the three RLDs. I can't speak from personal experience on this matter, but there certainly on more signs posted saying "No foreigners allowed" than the other two RLDs.

Service of girls at Miari can be hit or miss, but on average is better than 588. My ATF (found on this last trip) is from a place in Miari.

Finally, no cars are allowed in the alleys of Miari. Actually, the alleys are too small for most cars anyway. This can be a positive or a negative, depending on how you look at it.

Yongsan: The smallest of the three RLDs, this place is most similar to 588. The layout of Yongsan is a bit more straight-forward, since the area is smaller and more compact.

The presentation and quality of girls is similar to 588 as well. (No ah-jum-mas here, either.) Similar outfits to 588. Service is often better, at least in my experience. There is usually less clock-watching, and I've always felt that girls at Yongsan are more likely to enjoy the sessions themselves.

Yongsan is more centrally located in Seoul than the other two RLDs. 588 is east of the downtown Seoul area, while Miari is northeast of downtown. Yongsan is much closer to downtown Seoul.

At all three RLDs, the going rate for Koreans is 60,000W. From other reports on this board, there is often a markup for foreigners to 70,000W. This is the "short-time" rate for one pop. Depending on which RLD one is at, the actually time my vary, but is usually 15-20 minutes. One can negotiate for longer sessions, especially at Yongsan and Miari. Prices vary, but I've had 1 hr sessions for 180,000W and 240,000W. With longer sessions, multiple pops are possible. I've found that it's better to tell the girl beforehand that's what I want. Once you've paid them for a longer sessions, service is usually improved and they are more accomodating. In addition, as mentioned in other posts, visiting during non-peak hours tends to result in better rates/service.

Also, education about STDs seems to have improved at RLDs. A year or two ago, girls would ask if I wanted a condom. (My answer was always yes, of course.) Now, it seems to be mandatory. I have also seen signs and banners, apparently put up by government, encouraging the use of condoms to customers.

If anyone has any questions or comments regarding this report, please feel free to private message me. Hope this was helpful.

ny_seoul

01-08-04, 05:33

Maps of Itaewon courtesy of korea.army.mil off-limit establishments maps.

Part 1

ny_seoul

01-08-04, 05:34

Maps of Itaewon courtesy of korea.army.mil off-limit establishments maps.

Part 2

Kornada

01-08-04, 09:16

New to the forum. I'm a Korean-Canadian guy working in Korea and I recently checked out Yongsan. Had no problems getting an A row chick as obviously I look the part. Had the hottest girl I have ever seen. 100 000won for BBBJ, BL, and covered FS. Not a GFE as most of the hot ones aren't but I didn't care... so hot. If anyone wants to get together just PM me, I can speak some Korean so maybe I can get you in.

Sam Katz

01-08-04, 10:01

Fat Shaft,

You are a Monger man! Trying to get some action at the airport right at arrival. Sorry but no action at Incheon Airport or any airport. Take the next taxi to Miari or some place.

Sam Katz

Red 73

01-08-04, 11:03

Fat Shaft,

There is nothing I know of remotely close to Inchon Airport. With 6 hours, you'd be cutting it close, but your best bet would be to take a limousine bus into the city to the Capitol Hotel (HJ only) or Hamilton Hotel (FS but CBJ) Sports Massages, about $8 each way for the bus and W180,000 to 200,000 for the massage. The buses only stop 2 or 3 times on the way from the airport and will drop you off at the hotels. They run about every 20 minutes. Just my two cents.

Red

Chaos17

01-09-04, 06:20

For the benefit of those who have not yet had the pleasure of visiting one of Seoul's RLDs, I have started to post a series of photos in the Photo Gallery section. Part of this is also to clarify what kind of outfits girls in the various RLDs wear and what they usually look like. (This will illustrate one of the differences between 588 and Miari, for instance.)

If anyone has any comments or questions about these photos, please feel free to private message me. Enjoy.

RW_75

01-09-04, 15:04

How is the sports massage place downstairs at the Hamilton?
Haven't tried it yet but am pretty curious.

Wolf

01-10-04, 04:54

RW_75
This one is what you think it is.
Quite good and very clean.
I had 4 experiences there, 3 of them with young girls in their early 20s and one with an older lady. All with thorough wash, little massage BBJ and once FS.
Damage is 200,000 if I remember well.
They also told me that they can send the girl to your room if you stay at Hamilton. I did not. I don't know about sending to other hotels.
Enjoy
Wolf

Sam Katz

01-10-04, 21:46

This place is great.

Chaos17

01-13-04, 03:42

Another member recently private messaged me the following question. For the benefit of everyone in the group, I repost his question and my response to the forum. (I have obtained the other user's permission to repost his question.) Also, if anyone has any additional comments or insight into this matter, feel free to chime in.

Question:
I've read your report about the three zones, but I've seen also the photos with "not allowed to foreigners": since I'm European and I'm here in Seoul, I'd like to know if all the three RLD are really forbidden or not. Whats' the real situation? what can you suggest to me for a hot chicken?

My response:
From my understanding of the situation, Miari is the worst of the three RLDs with regards to foreigners. They have many signs and banners expliciting saying "no foreigners allowed." With 588 and Yongsan, I've never personally seen any signs or banners in that regards. Not being a foreigner myself, it's hard for me to tell what the "real situation" is...from other posts on the forum, I gather that it's possible but difficult - your best bet is to go during non-peak hours. Also, you might be limited to what's commonly called a "B-row" girl. (The girls on the main alleys are usually more attractive than those on side alleys, but have the reputation of being less willing to serve a non-Korean.)

Song Seung Heon

01-13-04, 06:25

How is the service at these RLD's? Are these girls friendly, nice, gfe, etc or unfriendly, impersonal, rude, with no emotional attachment whatsoever. I know our expieriences ymmv, but does other factors like appearance,hygeine,etc play into the kind of service we might be getting? or is it all about the money, the more you pay them, the better service you get.

Chaos17

01-13-04, 21:13

In response to Kimchi Man's qustion from 01/12/04:

It varies. Technically speaking, the service itself is pretty good. Most of the time, it is better than anything one might get from a provider in the US. To be more specific, girls in the RLDs all seem to have been trained in how to tease with their tongue and lips all over one's body in leading up to a BBBJ. Their skills in oral are also quite good. Also, since these girls are usually quite young (early 20s), the FS itself is nice and tight. These things seem to be true even when the girl is a little impersonal or non-GFE. I have definitely had experiences which I would describe as GFE in the RLDs, however. In my experience, I would guess the ratio of GFE to non-GFE is about 50-50. I think a lot of it is about chemistry between the provider and hobbyist.

In speaking to the girls, I've found that most of them are in the business for the same reason - they've accumulated large amounts of credit card debt or gambling debt which they are unable to pay back any other way. It's not the greatest lifestyle, so I don't know if I would say that all of them like their jobs. However, some of them truly do seem to enjoy the sex and get into it. These are the ones which are GFEs.

As far as appearance/hygiene, I assume you're asking about the customer's appearance or hygiene, not the provider's. Hmm...hard for me to say, since I have no one to compare to except for myself. Without trying to sound overly conceited, I'm a young, fairly good-looking, relatively fit guy - I am pretty sure that I get somewhat better service than others based on this. At the very least, I can't imagine that I'm getting any worse service than anyone else. My guess would be that having good appearance or hygiene certainly can't hurt your changes of getting better service. In much the same way, I can't imagine that having a less-than-average appearance or hygiene would help those chances, either.

Having said that - I'd be a fool to say that the money doesn't play a significant role. In this business, money always seems to be the bottom line. Each girl probably has their own limits and internal pay schedule for what they will put up with and for how much.

I'm not sure if this fully answers your question. Let me know if you need further clarification on this issue.

Sam Katz

01-13-04, 23:57

Kimchi Man,

Yes everything has to do with it, in most cases if your young and Korean and clean looking ofcourse they will feel more compfortable with you, but if your an old man that smells you won't get the best experience. GFE is rare in RLDs but I have gotten it before. Good luck.

Sam Katz

Seoul Blade

01-14-04, 05:23

Miari was not always "anti-foreigner." Until only a couple of months ago, Miari was actually "the haven" for foreigners. Mamasans grab you left and right. Aside from the hill, Miari was the place to go.

588 has always been the most "anti-foreigner," followed by Yongsan, and then Miari. Now, 588 and Miari are "anti-foreigner," while Yongsan is now the place to go (don't go at night). These days, the service off the cross alleys has been really good for some reason.

Kimchi Man:

Hygiene obviously does matter. Appearance and cleanliness are important, but a 'repeat customer' is best. Plus, how nicely you treat them matters as well. They usually give better service if you don't go too rough with them. I was told that some Korean men get really rowdy with the women, trying to perform as if they were making a porn movie. The girls get hurt. Treat them like a lady rather than a piece of meat, and they'll usually be good to you.

NY Yankees

01-14-04, 05:31

Hey Kimchi man,

Again, I'm not a master of these RLDs and this is based on my limited personal experiences.
Really YMMV, but as you've said, if you are dressed well, clean looking and polite, there is no reason for these girls to hate you.
Look at it the other way around, would you rather go for a rude, not too well dressed, messy looking girl or a well groomed, forever smiling chick? Of course, this doesn't guarantee that you'l be lavished with great service but the girl might be more open to you and be comfortable with you if you treat her with respect.

Yes, I've had my fair share of bitchy, rude ladies who turned out to be a disaster, and this need not apply only to the RLDs. I think it's pretty much the same in every establishment and all over the world. I know these girls are WLs and they are in it for the money, but they have feelings as well and they would prefer to meet a customer who would be nice and kind and treat them like a decent human.

To some girls, it's all about the money I guess, more so than not but to be honest, even money isn't everything to them. Who knows, if some guy is filthy rich but he is bloody disgusting looking with the worst ever manners, I think these girls will rather accept less money for some guy who would treat her with respect.
I've managed to meet two girls from 588 outside of their work and to my surprise, they actually paid for some of the dinners and beers we've had.
Just my two cents and they might not carry much value but this is pretty much how it has been for me. But of course, these girls have never mounted to more than a business relationship, they know and I know that, this is how far it will go and none of us are in this for some emotional relationship. RLDs should be the last place to be searching for a GF or anything like it.

Red 73

01-14-04, 06:26

I agree with the earlier posters that respect for the lady is important, but never forget it's a business relationship. I prefer to be a repeat customer at a few locations rather than trying to spread my seed far and wide. I've found the service gets much more personal the 2nd+ time, usually leading to GFE. They're also much more willing to try different positions, etc. which is always a bonus.

Red

BikeRider

01-15-04, 02:52

Just returned from a few days in Seoul, and I thought I would report on the action at JJ's at the Hyatt.

Last Tuesday I was to go out with one of my regular friends there, and she ran into problems and had to work late. She strung me along until it was about midnight saying I'll be there in an hour. At midnight, she said she was too tired and couldn't make it. I was mad and very horny since we normally have a great time together. I headed down to JJ's to see what was available.

There were two women sitting at the bar that were probably working (the hints were that they were a bit older, sitting at the bar, and actually made and held eye contact with me). I started talking and one immediately asked if I would pay them. So, I switched to Korean and negotiated a price and time for both of them- 300KW for two hours.

We went up to the room separately, and proceeded to have fun. After about 45 minutes, they started to get dressed. I reminded them of the two hours and they said "sorry they forgot how late it was and would I give them taxi money" and on and on.

I opted not to make a scene, didn't give them any more money and basically told them what I thought about their business practices. Sorry I don't remember their names.

My suggestion is to skip the professional talent at JJ's. They're over priced and don't deliver (friends have had similar experiences). The amateur talent, on the other hand, at JJ's is first class but usually impossible to land without speaking some Korean. Even if you do speak some Korean the odds are against you at JJ's in my opinion and experience.

Gentau

01-16-04, 05:23

Interested punters may wish to check out the url at

http://www.youth.go.kr/English/circumstance/area.asp

At which the local government has outlined areas unsuitable for youth. The main criteria seems to be in line with the stated objectives of this site.

Tookay

01-16-04, 10:01

Thanks for the report, Bikey. I am headed to Seoul next week and booked at the Hyatt. I was just about to post here and ask if anyone had any recent research regarding JJs. I have been there a couple of times before, only a couple of quick trips to JJs, but didn't have much luck there. Noisy, crowded, and lots of pushy Korean guys. Looked like one of the more difficult scenes of the many Hyatts I have stayed in in Asia!

Play Thing

01-17-04, 01:50

To the fellow mongers,

The only attractive aspect of JJ at Hyatt is simple - the girls there speak English ! Among the locals, JJ is said to be too pricy and crowded, only good for showing off while accompanying your own GF - different / exotic bar scenes with lot of foreigners.
That's why you find any pretty girls almost always with their friends.

On the other hand, if you spot a single girl there, I am pretty sure she is a pro. Watch her carefully to make it sure she is really a solo, then go offer a drink and ask the price. The next is upto you.

The general scene in Seoul is quite frustrating to the first time visitors, but once you learn how-to, it is too easy to buy the type you want ( except anal , CIM and facials).

And my question: Anyone knows the girl who will accept the CIM / facial in Korea? I'd tried that with lots of girls with additional money offer, still the answers were unanimously NO. Quite disappointing.

Play Thing

Wicked Willie

01-17-04, 09:33

Ah, another nice night mongering in Iteawon. Picked this little 22yo up at Seoul Pub. She was 4 sheets to the wind.

Back a my place and a lil more soju and she was gone. Decided to snap some pics. She was a cutie.

WW
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Wicked Willie

01-17-04, 09:34

another pic

Wicked Willie

01-17-04, 09:34

one more

Wicked Willie

01-17-04, 09:35

one more - last one

Macgoo

01-17-04, 22:43

Wicked Willie,

Don't get me wrong, cause I am always appreciative of fellow Mongers' conquest. The issue I have is that this girl appears to be "out-of-it"; drunk or even worse, drugged. That could pose a whole new set of problems.

Be careful out there!

Ez

Photoman

01-18-04, 12:01

Hello all -- more about repeat business and appearances:

Yes, your appearance does make a difference. I'm not sure age matters that much, but it's not hard for the girls to assume that older men have a bit more money to spend than younger men.

I've walked through Yongsan with a suit, and hardly ever get turned down, except walking down the main A road. I would like to hear from foreigners who have had success on the A road. There is a difference if you are dressed for real business, or if you are wearing blue jeans. Don't take my word for it: try the experiment yourself.

I agree with being a repeat customer. I have yet to have one of my girls not agree to another encounter. In face, I am welcomed with open arms. If you are kind, friendly and make them laugh, your second, third or whatever "transaction" goes much better.

One of my regulars would do just about anything after the fifth time with her. A "service" tip of 10,000 won at the end also gains a lot of creditability with the girl.

Haven't had a lot of time lately, but I was out New Year's Day. It was slim pickings at Yongsan. I walked the whole place and the girls were just plain ugly and few. Went to the "office" of one of my regulars last, and she was in, and happy to see me. Much better experience.

Did get a bonus for that weekend from older Korean divorcees. Much have been lonely because two of my friends were in the mood for foreign meat. It's always nice to be wanted.

As far as barbershops go: I think the quality of ladies working the BSs has declined. Comments from others?

Wicked Willie

01-18-04, 12:35

Macgoo,

I hear ya. That is why I did not do anything with her that night. We crashed, she got up in the middle of the night, got naked, went back to sleep and we banged in the AM when she was up and awake.

Did not want to hear the old "oh, I said no!" routine after the fact, so I waited till she was sober. I took pics then too, but those are my private "in-action" photos that I won't post up here anymore.

Everyone must be careful, all the time, as you never know who will say they were drunk with even 1 beer in their system - etc, etc, etc.

L8r,

WW
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BikeRider

01-18-04, 15:31

Play Thing,

You are right about JJ's. It is too expensive for most Koreans.

I think you are wrong about identifying the pros though. All of the ones that I have spotted usually had a friend working with them. They're only solo when their partner is upstairs.

BR

Red 73

01-19-04, 05:22

PlayThing,

Regarding CIM and facials, I've only found a couple of girls who would do this, and only after much repeat business. At the tourist hotel sports massages in outlying towns (Cheonan and Gunsan) are two of my semi-regular girls who are up for pretty much anything (except anal - yet). However, I've never managed either in Seoul, even with my regular girls. It seems that Seoul is going the way of the States lately with CBJ everywhere I go (though I don't go to Itaewon or any of the places like Yongsan, 588).

Now, if you get a regular Korean girlfriend, the chances are much better (100% in my limited experience of 3-4 girls), plus possibly anal and convincing them to shave.

Red

Jimmy01

01-19-04, 05:50

The top sign says "Aca Saka" and is basically a "beer house" and also sells "ang ju"...a nice tasty alcoholic Korean beverage. The sign below it is for a Hapkido studio for anyone (Man, Woman, Eldery, kids) wanting to learn a very useful and potentially deadly martial arts form.

Play Thing

01-19-04, 06:09

Some abbreviations for the first time readers.

I myself had a hard time when I came back to the board after few years of dormancy. (Anyone remembers those old newsgroup format? What a difference now! )

Now,

AMP = Asian Massage Parlor
RLD = Red Light District
SW = Street Walker / Street Worker

HJ = Hand Job (included in your entrance fee, no matter what)
CBJ = Covered BlowJob
BBBJ = BareBack BlowJob (that is, sans condom)

DFK = Deep French Kissing (now you know what LFK is)
DATY = Dine at the "Y" (hmm...use your imagination )
FS = Full Service
CIM = Cum In the Mouth (available in Korea?)

GFE = Girl Friend Experience
YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary (old adage, still holding everywhere, especially here)

Play Thing

Hi,

In your browser, can you see the link labeled "Terms and Abbreviations" in the black menu bar at the top of this page? Apparently there must be some problem with the visibility of this link in some browsers, so any feedback you could give me would help me identify the specific problem.

jackson@wsgforum.com

Thanks,

Jackson

Sam Katz

01-19-04, 10:21

Gentau,

Nice website you found, I am going to check out some of them places when I get the chance to. But the smaller RLDs probably don't have many hot girls, but theres only one way to find out!

Willie,

Man did you drug that girl or something? You monger! you definetly pulled her underwear down while she was out of it! What a slick but not so cool move. But atleast you got pictures. You should just take regular pictures next time because I doubt she pulled her underwear down then fell asleep right afterwards.

Sam Katz

Tookay

01-19-04, 11:44

Well, for what it's worth, I will try to file a research report here after I am there next week. I'm working with a Korean-American guy (who lives in Korea now), so maybe he can help me spot 'em!

I am inevitably invited out to one or two room salon nights by our partner there. I don't know, but the joy of spending hundreds of thousands of won on karoke, scotch, snacks, and maybe a knob job just seems to evade me. OK, the room salon girls are typically stunners, but wouldn't it be more fun to spend a tens of thousands of won at JJ, including some company upstairs after some cocktails?

Tookay

01-19-04, 11:47

Uh, sorry but in thinking about that post I just made, I think I was off by a decimal point in my budget estimates!

Fluid

01-19-04, 11:51

Was wondering if anyone had a good line on a really good Tabang House in Seoul. Also, what are the prices and expecatations?

Red 73

01-20-04, 09:12

Speaking of divorcees, Korea now has one of the highest divorce rates in the world (according to a few recent newspaper articles), and according to my wife's friends, most of their husbands are seldom interested in taking care of business (probably because they have a young hot room-salon girl on retainer, but that's a different discussion), so there has to be a lot of pent-up sexual desire out there.

Obviously, some skill with the Korean language is needed to make the connection, and my Korean is just to the point where I can start moving in that direction. Any tips from the more experienced members on how to make the move with a divorcee? I'm thinking one of those "English for Ajummas" classes might be good.

Red

Fat Shaft

01-21-04, 06:35

Hi All,

Just got back from LA via Incheon Airport, Seoul.

Thanks for the advice guys, yes there is nothing in the Airport except a sports massage which is not what is was looking for.

Didn't want someone breaking my balls instead of stroking them.

Wish it was like the Bangkok Airport wherein you have the massage girls giving you nookie on the side.

The next time I travel it has to be a girl friendly airport for a layover (in more ways than one).

Happy mongering

Amateur

01-22-04, 23:36

In Seoul Now. Can anyone recommend good barbershops or sport massage parlors and some noraebangs where they provide girls to enjoy? How about some good referrals on freelancers? Location and prices would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Red 73

01-23-04, 08:51

Just sampled the Yongsan RLD for the first time, and I have to say, I'm a fan. I didn't have much time, and just wanted to get off, so I didn't head out for one of my sports massage regulars.

After coming out of the #3 exit at Shinyongsan on line #4, I took an immediate U-turn. After about 30 feet, I turned left down an alley. After about 20 feet, I crossed another alley that had a few girls on it, and after about 50 feet I came to the main row. I walked past the beautiful unattainable girls there, then headed back to the alley I had just passed. I would call this the "C" row, because the quality of women was in the 3-5 range (average age probably about 35 and most could lose a few pounds). However, I wasn't feeling too picky and was in the mood for some big breasts, so I picked a chubby little ajumma about three doors down. At only 50,000 I couldn't complain. She started with BBBJ, then on with the condom. We moved to a few different positions, and I finished in missionary. She cleaned me up, gave me a little brown bottle of poison, and I was on my way.

Overall, it was a good experience, but I won't be a repeat customer. Too many other opportunities to be had.

Red

Da Pimp

01-23-04, 09:34

Amateur,

Welcome to Seoul. You've arrived in bad time; holiday season. Most places are shut down until Sunday and girls sometimes stay in their province more than the off days.

During this time, the best bet is to visit 3 star~4 star hotels where they have steam-bath. Until recent years, they used to call it Turkish bath, but after Turkish Embassy in Korea didn't like 'a fuck house' to be named after their country, government banned hotels to use the term.

Steam bath (Turkish bath) in hotels are same as soapies in Japan. They wash you up and do a bit of sucking and tickling followed by an intercourse with a condom on. You pay to get in and everything is included. The service usually last 45 min~60 min depends on places. The price is rather expensive, at least $150~ $200.

Just ask the cabby to take you to the nearest turkish bath. Since cabbies don't speak english, just say "Hotel Turkey-Tang Ga joo-se-yo" then they will understand what you need.

Photoman

01-23-04, 12:37

Was a cold chill at Yongsan RLD this Friday afternoon. Only about one of every 20 house had a girl in the window. There even weren't any customers walking around.

Found a little cutie who only cared about time. And, the only English she knew was "too long." The only saving grace was that she was the first one I've found to actually work herself over for a warm up.

Don't know what the hurry was for her cause she kept saying finish. After it was over, she was dressed and sitting back on the stool in the window. Too bad.

Wicked Willie

01-23-04, 23:07

Photoman, you must have been having bad luck. Was out at 5am on Saturday AM. The A-Row was pretty much shut down, but my favorite B-Row areas were well stocked. Picked up this PYT with actual REAL C cups and no stretch marks from kids. 60,000W and 30 minutes latter, little willie was quite happy.

You gotta get out between 4 and 6am for the best chances. Girls are ready to go home and the old drunk korean guys are all in bed - ha!

Monger away!

WW
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Red Rex

01-25-04, 05:35

Just wait for them to hit on you, Red 73. You don't need much Korean. One of the best places, believe it or not, is a foreigner friendly church, or organisations which do cultural type things with foreigners. Also try nightclubs that have an older age group clientele. It can help to go with a Korean friend, but not always so. If you teach, you might have one or two hitting on your. That's where I've found some of mine. Short time is never straight forward in Korea.

Actually after two and a half years here I'm glad to be heading out. Korean women are beautiful, sexy and nice, but boring, can't think outside the square, often too tense and cold, and far too childlike for my tastes. They are always looking for men by calculator and other narrow set pieces that they have in their minds. Sex here is for procreation and even the 'available' married ones have a complex set of rules before much can take place. There's rarely anything like a one night stand here. And if there is, arrangements are often likely to be so constricted as to be almost prohibitive, and also you are likely to be paying through the nose in the long run.

According to the Korean Herald a while back, Korea had the biggest sex industry in the world in dollar terms. About 97% of it caters to Koreans, and it's easy to see why it is the biggest. There are so many cultural constraints and taboos: sex is for procreation. I've never seen a country (outside of Muslim one) where so many women have had little or no sexual experience, and yet, by rough calculations, about 10% must be involved in the sex industry in some way.

I find the sex industry here way overpriced and the women generally attitudinal......as always, calculating, rapacious and greedy, and consistently poor service. Places like Hooker Hill leave me for dead. Overpriced? Taking into account things like GNP, standard of living, average income etcetc relative to other equivalent countries, I think it's way over-priced. 180,000 won for full service is way over the line cf other like establishments in equivalent countries. A non-hooker one night stand is likely to cost you as much in drinks etcetc. Korean women are demanding and will suck you dry (financially). I did receive satisfaction on occasion at the RLD near Chongnyangnyi Station (line 1). I think it may be otherwise known as area 588 here (?). As always, about 9/10 will slam the door in your face as a foreigner, but i did sometimes strike one or two really nice looking ones who had good attitudes and gave satisfactory service (by Korean standards). And they did become regulars for quite a while. In Busan, I found the best ones to be Korean Russian girls around Texas Street, and they really did get their rocks off. But as always in Korea, way too expensive. I did find the odd barbershop a somewhat satisfactory experience (for the price I suppose), but too often they are in dingey holes-in-the wall, or on underground floors stinking of the city's gas system, or ridden with cockroaches or rats and god know's what else lurking in the dark etcetc....real put-offs. Why they have to place a blanket of sheet over your body in the semi-dark, and give you a massage which includes things like trying to rip your fingers out, god only knows. The last (married) girlfriend I had was a revelation in that she was actually outgoing, and had a mind and used it. She was good fun, but as always in Korea, always too busy with too little time for adequate sex. And I know she was waiting for me to give some hint of longterm commitment (as is usual in such situations in Korea) before she would give anything halfway towards 100%.....Korean mindset again.

If you've got the bucks, I say go for as much as you can get, and good luck to you. I had to go on holiday out of Korea to have more enjoyable fun and sex. In the long run I probably paid much the same all things included, but I can guarantee ya I had a lot more fun! Personally I'm glad to be out of Korea. I'm going for a slow tour through the places I've had fun before: China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, India, Indonesia.

Kombae one and all!

Razzor

01-25-04, 10:39

Has anyone had any experiences at the Thai Massage place next to 3 Alley Pub in Iteawon? Was just wondering if it was just only massage or with extras.

Razzor

Red 73

01-25-04, 11:42

Street walkers in Itaewon: On my way home last night from a few beers with a friend, I got propositioned by a lady along the main road between Outback and McDonald's. She quoted 70,000 short time, but as I had no interest initially, she quickly went down to 50,000. She was wearing these little glasses, and I'm a sucker for girls in glasses. I figured what the heck, and we walked about 5 minutes to her tiny apartment and banged away. About 30 minutes total, but she was in no hurry to rush me out. She was about 30 years old, 15 pounds overweight, and performed admirably to get my beer-soaked penis up and going. Interestingly, she was totally shaved down below (a first for me in Korea), and didn't mind having my thumb up her ass, so anal may be possible if I ever run across her again. She also didn't mind when I pulled out and came on her breasts, so I may look for her next time I'm in the neighborhood.
Looks: 6
BBBJ: 3 (but good with her hands)
Enthusiasm: 7
Kinky factor: 8
Repeat customer: probably
Red

Simple1

01-25-04, 18:18

Hi All,

I'm new to this site, found it last week :) and boy am I glad I did.

Well, I will be in Seoul in mid feb and was wondering if any of you guys would offer me tips on where to go etc, and if possible show me the ropes.

Thanks

Da Pimp

01-25-04, 21:52

Red Rex,

I'm with ya 100%.

I was born in Korea and I live here in Korean, but I hate Korea when it comes down to sex. I guess sex industry here must be for upper class people or for those who fucks once a week and live off on instant noodles for rest of the month.

Two things that I'm really into; sex and golf, and neither of them are cheap or easy to do in Korea. Sex, we basically covered already. Golf, anything within 50km from Seoul, golf membership is 300,000 USD up to 500,000 USD. You still have to pay even if you had a membership. Furthermore, you can't even play as much as you want bucause it's so freakin' busy all the time to get a damn tee time on weekends.

So what do I do? I just work hard and never go out to eat. Save 500 dollars each month and go to Angeles City in the Philippines. With 1500 USD, for 7~10 days, I can cover a round trip tickets, hotel, drinks, 36 holes of golf, eat like a king and a sweet girl(s) every night. Recently, Asiana Airline started flying directly to Clark Air Base. So we are talking about within 4 hours from Korea, you can have a cold San Miguel in your left hand and grabbing tits with the other hand.

Expats, English teachers, and whoever you might be, those who are sick and tired of over-paying sex in Korea, we should get together and talk about going to Angeles City as a group. (It's been my desire to rent a bar and have a very private party)

Sorry to disapoint guys who are coming to Korea with high hopes but I had to spill it out. But, being a local here, I'll help out fellow mongers if you need an assitance in Korea whether it's sex related or else. No, I'm not a pimp eventhough Dapimp is my id.

Razzor

01-25-04, 22:26

Red 73,

Yes, I know the Street Hook your talking about, never been with her but she has been working that beat for over a year that I know of. Glad to hear she is good service. Just make sure you use a condom with her, she is high traffic I think, she taken miles and miles of cock i'm sure.

Thanks for the report.

Razzor

Hutsori

01-27-04, 02:38

Once in a while there's a girl on the hill that isn't a buy-me-drinkee you-cum-quickly hag. Visited Cabin the other night, and though the place typically has girls of the 3-5 range they've often been enthusiatic and affordable dick suckers--30 to 50k. Well, Cabin now has looker named Ju-hee or Ju-whee. Attractive face, slender body, nicely shapped breasts with quite long nipples, and great legs as she's about 180cm tall. A 10k drink at the bar, a 20k one behind the curtain, and then she's sucking my balls. Made no request for another drink to clean my dick. Made no attempt to reach for a condom which typically leads to another negotiation for $$ when I beg off. Many girls often go light on the mouth and heavy on the hand. Her's was pure mouth bbbj. Varying techniques employed proved her a skilled practitioner of her profession. No protests or demands for more $$ when my hands moved across her body. A pleasant surprise was, as she was doing the tongue flick, her eyes focussed upon my face and then she gave me a smile. I find it quite a turn on when a girl makes frequent eye contact with a bulge in her check. My happy ending was approaching. Time for the final test. Her teeth bit hard on my shaft as the ajumma jumped in and shouted "You pay 200,000 won or she bite off your dick!" Didn't happen. Ju-hee lovingly gazed at me and said: "Buy me 'nother drink?" Didn't happen. No, it wasn't a typical night on the hill. When I shot my spunk she didn't pull her head away. She didn't gag and cough. She didn't grab the ashtray, spit in it and run to the bathroom to gargle--would have passed the test, though. She kept on sucking. And sucking. Did she swallow? No such luck. After a minute or so she rolled up some tp and wiped her mouth. No drama. No whinging.

I offered her another drink which she accepted--usually I'm out the door. She played with my dick as I sucked her nipples. We chatted for a while. Better money in blow jobs, she says.

Face: 7 (Could have been an 8, but her teeth are a 5. Not mangled, but not white. Detracted from her face. Cum doesn't have whitening properties.)
Body: 8
Legs: 10
Breasts: 10 (As Goldilocks says: Just right.)
Nipples: 10
Blow job: 10 (Deserves more, but one has to play within the boundaries.)
My happiness: 10
My luck: 10 (3 guys stopped in for a look just before my arrival.)
The location: 2 (Cabin is seedy.)
Misc: Midnight on a weeknight. Very light foot traffic.

The damage: 50,000 excluding my beer.

If you visit be nice, but don't overpay. I'd like to see Ju-hee stick around.

Chaos17

01-27-04, 03:35

I have a quick question for all the hobbyists that can pass for Korean and speak Korean to a fairly fluent level: Is there a reason to go anywhere else than 588, Miari or Yongsan RLDs?

As I've indicated in my previous posts, I am of Korean heritage and speak the language fluently, allowing me to pass for a native. From the time I began delving into this hobby, I have limited myself to the RLDs. While I've definitely enjoyed my visits, I wonder if I'm missing out by not trying the barbershops, the room salons, and the other venues available in Seoul.

Obviously, this may not apply for foreigners because of some of the anti-foreigner sentiment than runs through some of the RLDs which may narrow the options. But for those of us that can pass for Korean natives (and thus have all options seemingly available to us), is there anything that gives a better combination of quality and value than the RLDs? Are there any specific reasons that I should try out the other options?

Please feel free to private message me your replies or post them to the forum. Thanks.

Sam Katz

01-27-04, 06:25

People actually still go to Ipaywon?

Mr Photo

01-27-04, 11:18

KOREAN LAW and PUTTING SEX PHOTOS ON THE INTERNET

I have a question or two. Last week I had a bad argument with a GF of mine, and sent her a phone text message saying "Hey, since you wanna act like such a ****, how about I put your sex photos on the internet tonight?", or words to that effect.

The things people say when they're drunk! But here's the thing: SHE REPORTED IT TO THE POLICE! And like an ass, I told them it was true. So my question is this: In Korea, is it illegal to put someone's sex photos on the net? Is it illegal to say you will? I wasn't making blackmail demands or anything like that. Can they charge me with anything?

Second question: I sent a text message to Mr ABC describing intimite sexual details about Ms. XYZ. Ms. XYZ found out about it and feels somehow harassed by this. If Ms. XYZ made a complaint to the authorities, could they charge me with anything?

Wicked Willie

01-29-04, 16:35

Ah, another great night at the Lime Light.

This little hottie was with a friend and her friends boyfriend.

Got her to dance, did some shots, more dancing and then back to my place.

This is what she looked like after the 3rd time I poked that thang.

Man, this chick was HAIRY. 1st korean chick I have seen with that much bush!

Where is my weed eater!

WW
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Wicked Willie

01-29-04, 16:36

She was hiding her face, since she was cute and I wanted to see her again, I let her.

22 and oh so young and tender.

WW
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Albert Punter

01-29-04, 21:38

Dear All,

A few questions.

a) Is it possible for not Korean speaking foreigners to visit successfully places like 588 or Miari ?

b) Would be some of you Korean speaking available to come with me on a "mission" ?

c) Is there any outcall service available ?

Any good reference/recommendation ?

Thanks for posting or replying by PM

Sam Katz

01-29-04, 21:41

Willie,

Ask your friend to shave that forest of a forest!

It scares me to see such a big bush.

I'm gonna start telling every girl in Korea to atleast trim

It will work.

Sam Katz

Seoulman

01-30-04, 16:16

OHH MY GOD!!!! Wicked Willie.. sorry dude..
but man you must be picking up the bottom of the barrals!!!
man all the girls you have shown have been TOTAL!!
SKANKS!!!

Dude.. PLEASE!!! whats your problem? dont you have any pride man??? and coming on here and trying to impress us with those skanks.. dude!! IM sorry man.. but thats just a joke!!!!!

please perhaps you should just go to youngsan, 588 and find yourself a real nice *****!!! a girl with some looks!!
not these bags you be bringing home!!!

Sam Katz

01-30-04, 16:58

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

Chaos17

01-31-04, 00:07

Also to Willie:

Is there any particular reason you're posting these pictures in this Forum as opposed to the Photo Gallery forum? It seems like they belong there instead of here.

Chaos17

01-31-04, 00:17

In reply to Albert Punter:

(I am answering these questions not from my own personal experience, but from what I gather to be the consensus of the forum based on previous posts. My conclusions may be subject to debate.)

1) Possible, but difficult. Miari appears to be particularly foreigner-unfriendly. 588 is also unfriendly, but to a slightly lesser extent. Most posts seem to indicate the greatest degree of success at Yongsan RLD. A foreigner may need to spend a little extra as well. Having a Korean-speaking friend may also help. Going during non-peak hours, as well as settling for non-"A-row" girls is also recommended.

2) I personally don't live in Korea. I'm not sure when the next time I'll be visiting. Are you in Korea already, or are you planning a trip?

3) Outcall service, while it apparently exists, is by all reports quite expensive. (My guess would be the going hourly rate in the US.) From my understanding, it's not the deal that the RLDs are. There is also the problem of "bait-and-switch." I think the consensus is that it's generally not worth it, although it would be interesting to hear from others who have actually tried this out.

Hope this helps.

Red 73

01-31-04, 00:41

Maybe we could start a campaign to ask all girls to trim. Willie, I for one thought she looked good, other than the old-growth forest between her legs. It took me a while to convince my wife (who's Korean), but she now keeps it nice and smooth except for a little landing strip, so it's possible. If you have a steady girl, just buy her a Lady Remington, and if she doesn't get the hint, do it yourself next time you're in the shower together.

Albert Punter, I think your chances are slim and none, even if you have a Korean with you. Best bets for us foreigners (I think) to be with a hottie is to become a regular at a Sports Massage or an out-call service, or just get a Korean girlfriend.

Red

Ho Man

01-31-04, 13:51

Where should a report from Bupyeong go? I mean, technically, it is in Incheon - but it is connected to Line 1 on the subway.

Wicked Willie

02-01-04, 07:30

To Seoulman and Katz - especially KATZ,

You guys must be f-ed in the head - especially KATZ,

If you could see photos of these chicks faces, you would think skank. There ARE cute chicks that go to the Iteawon bars - not all of them are HO's.

If YOU don't have luck scoring with them - then maybe you are the fugly skank.

And KATZ, DO NOT DARE to get on here talking BS about drugging someone - that crap is NOT funny, nor appreciated - by anyone.

I am not sure why you continue with these BS attacks on everything I post - maybe it is jealousy - I don't know - but DO NOT insinuate anything ILLEGAL like drugging someone - against any poster - I doubt the moderaters would appreciate it.

Lastly for Seoulman, the chick with the bush, here is her photo that she emailed me before we went out on our date.

So drool away and KATZ - as usual - FU.

WW
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Wicked Willie

02-01-04, 07:34

Chaos,

Photos can be posted either here or in the Photo Gallery - I prefer here.

WW
MDB

I prefer the Photo Gallery.

Thanks,

Jackson

Ho Man

02-01-04, 09:48

Fucking Hell, Willie!

Looks like she went out with your granddad, first!

Also, that's a mother of an eyebrow, she's got! :)

Sam Katz

02-01-04, 11:48

Willie,

I'm not here to fight with you. I don't have luck scoring with girls? Hah you would be suprised, and it ain't luck. Did you not pull the last girls pants down when she was passed out? One had her pantys up and one had them down. Consent??? I rest my case. Not all of them are HOs but the natives surely let you take bush pictures yea definetly dude.

And yes I agree drugging girls is not something that is appreciated by anybody.

Drool away, um yea ok. Have a great time paying top dollar for Ipaywon chicks and groping and taking pictures of passed out girls you pay for.

Sam Katz

Da Pimp

02-01-04, 13:09

Wicked Willie,

Don't let the flame bother you. There are more people like me appreciate your posting along with photos.

Mellow out guys. This board is for fun and sharing information. If you start picking on people for no reason, pretty soon, there's going to be noone posting anything here and will make this board dull.

Seoul Blade

02-01-04, 15:02

Albert Punter:

Japanese or Chinese are the only foreigners that have any real chances at 588 or Miari (Japanese are fully accepted 100%; Chinese people may be rejected at times).

All other foreigners are generally unwelcome by the "normal" working girls (by that, I mean the ones in the mainstreets -- where the girls call out to you, not the awful alley ones -- where ajumas offer their NASTY girls to you for 30,000 won).

If you're not Japanese or Chinese, it's best to just go to Yongsan.

Sam Katz

02-02-04, 03:02

As Jackson said lets get back to the subject and cut all this arguing out.

Photos of 588, Miari, and Yongsan can easily be found on Korean XXX sites. But the ones that have them all have that 19 on the front and ask for a user name and password. If anybody has access to these sites let me know.

And about chinese, I think they would get rejected a lot just because of the SARS scare.

Sam Katz

Studdyk

02-02-04, 03:45

It probably is illegal to post pictures depicting sexual acts,
especially if "pubic hair" is exposed. Korean society has double standards. While the government turns a blind to the RLDs, it tries to shut down any website showing photos exhibiting pubic hair. Yet, there is a huge market for adult movies which would be considered "soft porn" by U.S. standards since actual intercourse cannot be shown and no "pubic hair" exposure allowed. They don't even use mosaic.

In the past years, there has been a surge of Adult Webcasting sites. IJs (Internet Jockey) have become popular. At first, the sites were based in Korea and had to adhere to the law. Absolutely no exposure of pubic hair. Then these sites got smart and switched to servers overseas, thus circumventing the law. Now, these sites are trying to outdo each other with IJs doing all sorts of sexual acts.

If you posted sex photos of you and your girl on a Korean site, you would probably get in trouble with the law for invasion of privacy, defamation, extortion rather than from violating any "sex laws". I doubt the cops have the resources to go after you, an another civilian based on charges from your ordinary civilian girlfriend. Even if your girlfriend was a celebrity the cops would rarely do anything. If the cops couldn't do anything for two Korean celebrities who had their sex tapes speard online, do you think they could do anything for your girlfriend?

By all means, feel free to upload those photos here. This site is located in the U.S. and the Korean authorities can't do anything about it.

Wicked Willie

02-02-04, 04:57

Yo, HO man - haha - good one. The photo was taken when she was escorting Korean War Vets during the 50yr anniversary this past summer. Never seen a 24yo with a bush like that. Wirey as a bristle brush and as thick as syrup.

Sam - You pay girls one way or another. Either cash for their time; or money for food and drink. It ends up costing the same. In fact for me, I have found it is actually cheaper to pay for the poon, than to go out drinking, eating and dancing. The later usually costs twice as much.

Just remember, you TOO are PAYING for whomever you see, just the same as anyone who gets a girl in Iteawon - Pro or non-Pro; or any other woman, any where else in the world. Money for this that and the other to score the poon.

Da Pimp - good point and drive on.

Lastly Jackson - thanks for editing out the flame that SAM was trying to start. Monger on brother.

WW
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Peter00

02-02-04, 05:19

Hi,

I'm new to all this and have a few questions I was hoping you guys could answer. Im a 21 year old Korean man who lives in California and Planning a visit to Korea within a month. Would the ladies care that Im so young? See I have this weird fetish of older woman in their lower 30's, would I be able to get them? Would they care that Im from America?

I plan on going to Miari, Iteawon, 588, Yongsan and YongJooGul but am alittle bit confused. Are they all located in Seoul? If so How far are these places from each other? Are they easy to locate? If I told the taxi driver to go to Miari or 588 and he dropped me off, would I be able to find the back allies? If no, what should I look for that is a sign that Im on the right direction? (Red Lights?)

Thanks in advance and if you have any advice or comments for a beginner I would really appreciate the help.

Paddy23

02-02-04, 07:51

WW,
I agree you should keep putting the pics up as its real easy to criticize when you don't put any pics of your own 'conquests' up..
I disagree that its the same price overall to pay for it with a pro or a non-pro. Who says you have to buy drinks/food? In my experience you get far better results not buying drinks for girls..there are planty of saps out there who are willing to do so..why do you think the girl is hanging around? Because she likes you or likes the free drinks?
It's not just me being cheap, I know far better where I stand with a girl when I am not subsidising her night out.

Tomorrow

02-02-04, 15:59

Can someone tell me what hours the RLDs operate? Most interested in Yongsan and 588.

Thanks in advance.

Chaos17

02-03-04, 04:27

In reply to Peter00:

Re: your age. I don't think it will be a problem. I'm assuming that you're referring to going to pros, not non-pros. In case of pros, the younger the better is what I would think. They generally have to service a lot of older men as it is, so it's probably refreshing for them to be with someone more in their age group. I'm not sure how it will be if you're trying to pick up random older women in a bar, however.

Re: being from America. I think this mainly depends on how your Korean-speaking ability is. If you can at least speak some passable Korean, there will be much less prejudice against you on the part of any Korean, pro or non-pro. In some cases, it may even be used to your advantage. If you can't speak the language, however, that may be difficult to do.

Re: Location of the RLDs. That's a bit hard to describe without a map of Seoul, which I've honestly had a hard time finding online. Miari and 588 are northeast of the downtown area. Itaewon is fairly central, with Yongsan to the west of it. Yongjoogul - I've never been there, so I can't help you out. From what I understand, it's a bit further away than the previous four places I've mentioned.

Cab drivers should be able to take you to these places, especially if you let them know (through speaking or hand motions) what kind of action you're looking for. In the cases of 588 and Yongsan, they'll even be able to drive you right down the alleyways so that you can "browse" the selections. And yes, once you're in the area, just follow the red lights and signs that say, "No minors allowed." Alternately, you could just follow the line of drunken guys in groups. =)

Hope this helps you out. Have fun on your trip!