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Abder5
06-29-23, 18:06
You're right. Korea has changed substantially since 2019, and I worry that most of the reports written before that no longer contain much practical information.

To answer your first question, I think some of the anmas offer a soapland type experience, but I'm not sure which of them do. If you've read the forum, then you'll have heard about the club experiences at places like Donuts and Tiffany. Both have English language websites with maps and directions, and both seem to accept foreign customers. However, the service is a bit pricey.

To address your other question, I have to state the obvious, which is that without a working knowledge of Korean you're going to have a hard time gaining access to services on Opgani. In particular, the niche services such as fetish are almost certainly unavailable to foreigners. Even those of us who speak Korean aren't able to book at such places. I'm not saying you shouldn't call, but don't get your hopes up and prepared to be rejected a lot. Check out Phloppy's recent report where he mentioned that the was rejected by all but one shop in a neighborhood.

Good luck.

Also, I want to post some recent news. Check out the link below which reports that crackdowns are hitting closer to home. The article reports that a Hyugetel in Songpa was recently busted.

https://n.news.naver.com/article/003/0011916798

I can't be certain that this is one of the Hyugetels that I've been to, but as a regular in the Jamsil area it is entirely possible. I've noticed that a handful of Jamsil area ads have been pulled down in the past few months. Two of them were places I regularly visited. Unfortunately, the news articles doesn't mention the Hyugetel that was busted by name.I have completed a list which by no means is everything, but a starting number see attached pdf "New Microsoft Excel Worksheet".

Here is a link to some that I managed to map http://u.osmfr.org/m/932409/. (Most I guess due to crackdowns don't give an address).

For the ones with the phone #'s as other members mentioned send them a message in Korean telling them you are a foreigner (no reply propably means they are not interested LOL).

References:

https://opgani14.com

https://oping33.com/

https://lonelynight.net/

www.mybodyshop.co.kr (Has both dirty and real massages).

https://141hongkong.com/ (Another form with good info use Google Translate).

SlimGuy619
06-30-23, 13:21
Went back for a relay course.

First up was 이슬. Cute petite body, overall BBBJCIM was a 6/10.

After shower and break, second girl was 달고나. She's got to be my favorite. Great technique, pace and champ when it comes to taking the full load. Same deal, BBBJCIM, 8/10. She does this thing, which I think is called Blue Dragon? Where she will "clean" your member by continuing to go down on you with a splash of mouth wash in her mouth. It's an interesting sensation and I can't say no to her continuing to suck.

Overall, had a good time. Dmg was 130 to include 69 with both.

Bonjovi3
06-30-23, 15:05
First time poster here but just want to make this post since a lot of the info was really buried deep into this forum so this is for the lazy people who don't read too far back.

First thing first if you want to engage in any type of Hyugetel a Korean phone number is a must so when you arrive to Korea and want to indulge in these you should get a sim card with call and text.

I was able to contact some of these hyugetel because I borrowed a Korean phone from a relative (hopefully they never find out because that would be hella awkward) for context I am half Korean so I know how to speak a small amount of Korean and thankfully it was good enough to make a appointment but God bless imagine translating to help understand the services and location I had to go.

Also going to piggyback on a older post from Bonjovi3, there is zero chance you will ever randomly find these hyugetel I got a reservation for a hyugetel at guyu-dong and it was inside a upper scale building with no name at the entrance of the building that requires a code to even enter the elevator.

The girl has big tits but she was Taiwanese so her small Korean and my small Korean made conversation extremely low so it was shower fun and smashed and leave.

Overall cost was 170 k for 70 mins bbfscip body was a 9 - sex was feels great but doesn't have that GFE feel it during the post nut recovery or during the 2nd go.

Would tried to go for more but I didn't feel like pushing my luck when I am not using my own phone so maybe the next time I won't get a esim and just a calling sim instead.Nice report Jcbro, and thanks for the shout out.

Great to see that you did your research. I think a lot of guys underestimate how difficult it can be to use the online ads. However, your report proves that with enough determination (and Korean language skills) it is entirely possible to line up an appointment.

You're right that GFE can be hard to get. I've really only ever gotten GFE when I've repeated with women who are able to speak decent English and / or Korean. Unfortunately, a lot of women only speak Thai. GFE is also hard to get because the women often move from Hyugetel to Hyugetel thus making it almost impossible to line up a second appointment with a great provider. That being said, I've scored with gems who offered outstanding service on the first go a handful of times. What distinguished these women was that they were genuinely excited to be with a white guy.

Concerning your family, I hope you at least deleted the messages and call history from the phone you used. You never know when another family member, perhaps a wife or girlfriend, might snoop around and stumble across the messages.

Phloppy
07-01-23, 14:16
Aren't all the "girls" on MR trans?I don't know where people get that. I've been with a few MR ladies and tgey certainly weren't trans.

LaraTuty
07-01-23, 16:31
Went back for a relay course.

First up was 이슬. Cute petite body, overall BBBJCIM was a 6/10.

After shower and break, second girl was 달고나. She's got to be my favorite. Great technique, pace and champ when it comes to taking the full load. Same deal, BBBJCIM, 8/10. She does this thing, which I think is called Blue Dragon? Where she will "clean" your member by continuing to go down on you with a splash of mouth wash in her mouth. It's an interesting sensation and I can't say no to her continuing to suck.

Overall, had a good time. Dmg was 130 to include 69 with both.Would you mind providing the name in Korean? I tried looking looking through all the ads on opgani in Korean but I can't find anything named Honey within Seoul.

SomeGuy2988
07-01-23, 18:45
Would you mind providing the name in Korean? I tried looking looking through all the ads on opgani in Korean but I can't find anything named Honey within Seoul.I think the place he's talking about is actually in Seongnam, not Seoul proper. You'll see it listed on the site there under the Korean word for honey.

Jolem
07-03-23, 05:27
Finally made it. And it was amazing.

Reached out to a Lip Cafe nearby via text message.Any chance you could share location and digits?

Bonjovi3
07-06-23, 09:10
https://www.ilyosisa.co.kr/mobile/article.html?no=239975

This article provides a recent history of the online sex services in Korea and highlights some of the recent issues being faced.

MMFgBangLover
07-08-23, 23:04
This was a while ago, I contacted a blonde euro girl whose ad has been down since. Met at the public meeting point where she gave excuses and said to meet her friend instead. She sent me pictures that are the same as the ad from MR "Becky European". A group of at least 6 girls past by. Noticably because they're all foreign, all average at best. Then one of those girls, who could be the same as Becky's pics approached alone. Didn't notice her body but remember that her face was too unacceptable. She apologized and we parted. Just a warning.

Bonjovi3
07-10-23, 01:45
The stars aligned and I finally managed to get anal at a Hyugetel. There aren't too many women that offer it, and even when I've met women that offer anal I've been told that they won't do it for me. Therefore, it's been years since I have been able to fuck a woman in the ass, but on this occasion it all worked out.

Knowing that anal is often not on offer, when I found a women offering it at a Hyugetel that I regularly visit, I sprung at the chance to make a reservation. To be perfectly honest, I asked trepidatiously, assuming that I would get a flat no, but I was assured by the operator that it was certainly an available option.

Like all other experiences at Hyugetel, the deed started with a BBBJ. After that she was ready to get right to the anal, but I slid into her pussy first and pumped away for a while before pulling out so she could guide me into her ass while still in the missionary position.

Because it was anal, lots of lube was used, but it wasn't overly slippery. In fact, it felt fantastic. As I stated earlier, I hadn't done anal in a few years but it was just as good as I remembered. I have to say, there's something particularly sexy about anal in missionary. The sight of a woman's open pink pussy right above my dick moving in and out of her ass is as good as it gets.

One extra note. The woman I chose was a +1, meaning that her services always cost 10,000 won extra compared to other women listed on the same advertisement. Other than the fact that she did anal, which I paid extra for anyway, the +1 price didn't mean she was more beautiful nor better at any particular service. In fact, she was a worse kisser than a lot of other women I've seen and she wasn't really excited about DATY. On top of these facts she had an average body at best.

Paying more doesn't seem like it's worth the extra cash, but it seems like women charging +1 or +2 are becoming more and more common. That being said, it was worth it for the chance to do anal.

190,000 won 40 minutes BBFS anal.

One extra point I'd like to add is that photos on ads seem to be more heavily photoshopped than ever before. There was a time when the Hyugetels that accepted me had near 100% accurate photos. In some cases the photos were a few years old or maybe the woman's face had been erased for privacy reasons, but her body had been completely unaltered.

However, these days, photoshopping has become excessive, and it seems that more and more places are now employing it in their ads to remove belly fat, alter breast shape, and beautify faces. It's a disappointing trend because it is no longer quite as clear what type of women will show up in the bedroom.

KalmunSoul
07-10-23, 12:49
Great find! Can you provide the name of the establishment?

SeoulSearching
07-17-23, 09:46
There has been a (supposed) Khazak advertising on CL lately. Early 20's student. Looks Korean. About 5'2" tall and petite. "Looking for any kind of job". Beware. Real or not, she is a flake who strings things along for days and tries to hike prices after finally agreeing to a meeting. Seemed a lot like someone just playing around. It was. Odd.

Custom404
07-19-23, 22:24
First evening in town and only had a short window so decided to review the forum and find and easy and sure thing for a non Asian guy.

Ended up choosing Tiffany Anma. https://www.tiffanyanma.com.

Logistics: Convenient location south of the river, just a couple blocks south west of Gangnam metro station. There is a nice picture walking reference on the website which is helpful as many of the nearby buildings have similar looking signage. Find the door they highlight and take and elevator to the fourth floor.

Setup: the website purports that there are three different experiences on three different floors. This wasn't offered to me or doesn't exist any more. Instead, I entered on Floor 4, where someone immediately asked me to me receive my shoes which were put in a small locker. I was escorted to a nearby desk where they asked for payment. The woman asked my nationality and then quoted me 360,000. I showed her the price on the website was 260,000 and she said that was only for Asians. If I had more time to spare I may have just left at that point but instead agreed to split the difference at $310,000.

They directed me to another locker room where I removed the rest of my clothes, showered, but on a bath robe that they provided and was given a key.

Immediately outside the bar room is a lounge with sports playing. They offered me tea, coffee, or water. After a couple of minutes a girl came over to ask what kind of girl I like. She seemed to think a slightly taller one was good for me, and I said fine. Shortly, they escorted me upstairs to floor 5 to a room with two cots on the floor, a bathroom, and a dresser. While it wasn't necessarily impressive it was at least clean. I assumed this is where the fun would happen. Nope! After making me wait around 10 min a guy appears and takes me back to the 4th floor. This time we go through a locked door into a hallway that is setup like a club. Music is playing, lights are flashing. The doors to adjacent rooms are all open and naked woman and men are going about their business. I am introduced to Gabi. A slender, attractive early thirties woman who speaks pretty good English. She guides me to an open room and showers me. The room has both a table shower and bed. We sit down on the bed and she offers me another drink and a smoke. Within a few minutes of talking another girl wanders in the room from the hallway pulling an Asian guy in tow by his dick. It was a funny experience. We just kind of chit chatted while we both touched the girls and they played with our cocks. After a couple minutes the other couple moves out and Gabi gets down to business.

She does a body slide on my back for a while then instructs me to raise my ass a bit. She proceeds to shove her tongue up my ass while stroking my cock. After a couple minutes of that she asks me to flip over and she moves into 69. Sometime during the 69 she managed to slide a condom on my cock because after a while she pops up and starts to cowgirl me. She was a fun sexy ride with good talk and porn star clit rubbing. I have a hard time blowing in bag so she said I could cum in her mouth.

Mission accomplished I returned to the locker room area, collected my stuff with out incident and moved on.

It was a fun experience, Gabi was fun a sexy, and I'm glad I went once, but this is so much pricier than the rest of Asia where I can get basically the same service for half the price.

I'm town for a couple more days and would appreciate any advise on where to go for a little better deal. BBFS preferred.

SlimGuy619
07-20-23, 13:47
Bit of a downer report but figure I'd add it to be informative. I'll keep it short.

Doing my rounds on Opgani, found a place that accepted foreigners. Pictures, options and pricing look amazing, and the manager is willing to let me make a reservation. He gives me directions and instructions upon arrival.

I go up to a small apartment and am greeted by a lady named Anna. Not representative of the pictures but she's a solid Petite 9/10. She greets me and instantly goes to texting her phone, with I assume the manager, then claims there's a mistake with the room and person I reserved with.

I meet the manager downstairs, super nice dude, claims there's a mistake and promises me another option. He works a bit on his phone and coordinates a new room / lady.

Go up to new room, Ava. Russian lady, probably a 5/10. Very average and lots of blatant work on her face. Same story. Greets and claims confusion error.

Meet back downstairs with the manager who apologizes profusely and talks about how he doesn't understand these women. Essentially boiling down to the typical no foreigners policy some ladies have and the scary thought of a bigger dong hurting them.

He buys me a drink and we chat a bit and part ways.

Striker699
07-27-23, 17:39
I am on holiday in Seoul and have walked past this hotel a couple of times and noted some interesting things.

There's a tent set up outside with lots of keys hanging on hooks on the wall. A few guys always sitting outside and questioning the people who go in.

Lots of cars coming and going with men.

Only women I noticed were a couple of attractive ones in dresses leaving the hotel.

Looks like a very obvious brothel operation going on but I thought it had to be more hidden in Korea?

Doing some searching I only found one reference to hotel Sunshine on these forums from way back in 2002.

Anyone know what's going on here?

PopUpMenu123
07-29-23, 14:39
I'm looking to go to Korea, does anyone know more affordable areas and agencies, independent workers, etc? Is there a guide? I was in Thailand for a bit, the prices were excellent. There were even more ways to save, like being a sugar daddy. Korean women are some of my absolute favorites, including those K-pop plastic surgery ones. Or the pretty and petite ones. Does anyone know ones that are more affordable I've heard of ones that cost 700 k won, but that's way out of my price range. I prefer a smaller amount cause I'm going to be out there for a while. In Thailand, you get someone who's a 10/10 to do a whole night or even a whole day for less than 3,000 baht. Any advice or pointers?

I did here about one area in Seoul or something. But in the past months or so it pretty much got collapsed or something.

MMFgBangLover
07-30-23, 05:49
I'm looking to go to Korea, does anyone know more affordable areas and agencies, independent workers, etc? Is there a guide? I was in Thailand for a bit, the prices were excellent. There were even more ways to save, like being a sugar daddy. Korean women are some of my absolute favorites, including those K-pop plastic surgery ones. Or the pretty and petite ones.Korean prices are comparable to other developed countries like in Europe. The cheapest are the 3 RLDs at 100 k for 15-20 min depending on the place.

Yeongdeungpo is the best one with in terms of looks and variety but not all will take in foreigners. At the top of my head, at least 10 do. Itaewon's hooker hill is for foreigners but the woman there are very old. It's small, maybe 10 woman in total. It's a good location because your better off meeting normal girls who are way hotter anyway. Miari is quite bad, old and unintersting overall but there are maybe less than a handful of petite, plastic surgery, kpop wannabes, and atleast 1 with an good natural look. There on or near the normal paved road as opposed to farther into the little alleys.

Without korean skills and a korean number, other options will run you 300 k plus per hour. You can negotiate to 200 k with some. Websites for independents are massagerepublic, cityoflove, topescortbabes. If you know korean and have a korean number some members have written guides about opstar or opgani. Also on this subforum, do a search for what establishments you're looking for such as kiss room or kissbang, massage or anma, lip cafe etc. And you'll find info about what's already been written.

MMFgBangLover
07-30-23, 17:22
If you're willing to leave Seoul, an hour away there's an RLD in Dongducheon Jungang. It's 50 k for 15 min and at that same rate, 200 k per hour. I heard there's a lot of uglies but some cute and sexy ones too. Can't personally vouch for it though. It's an hour north of Seoul accessible from subway line 1 station's name is the same.

RedMan0505
07-31-23, 07:16
If you're willing to leave Seoul, an hour away there's an RLD in Dongducheon Jungang. It's 50 k for 15 min and at that same rate, 200 k per hour. I heard there's a lot of uglies but some cute and sexy ones too. Can't personally vouch for it though. It's an hour north of Seoul accessible from subway line 1 station's name is the same.It's been 30 yrs since I've been to Dongducheon the girls were low quality then, and sound like it's the same now. The only good thing about Dongducheon, was getting custom made suits and shoes for the cheap. Wondering if the bar at the Hamilton hotel Itaewon still a good pickup for the high end Korean girls.

Bonjovi3
08-02-23, 02:42
A whole load of Hyugetels have gone out of business and a whole bunch of others no longer answer the phone.

In addition, I have recently noticed that some Hyugetels have changed their phone numbers repeatedly with one in particular changing numbers 4 times in as many weeks. As if this wasn't strange enough, there has also been far less churn among the women offered by each establishment.

My gut tells me that these irregularities are a result of the arrest of the customer database application manager earlier this summer. From the outside, I would hazard that there has been a fair bit of upheaval in the industry and that the dust still hasn't totally cleared.

There has been some other high profile news lately that may be putting additional unwanted pressures on the industry. A young lawmaker from Jeju has been accused of using sex services and a judge from the down south was caught red-handed at a brothel in Gangnam.

SlimGuy619
08-02-23, 11:35
Pingping from MR:

Met up for an Incall at a hotel. 9/10 hot body. Amazing BBBJ. Various positions and finish in the cover. Sliiightly rushed but she was super nice. Don't know if I would repeat you less the menu opened up more.

Donuts in Gangnam:

First time visit. Mentioned being first timer, Singaporean, and another fourm they advertise on. I go through the historically documented prep process and go to a waiting room. I made the mistake of going around 6 PM, asking for club service. I'm told that doesn't start until 8, but I'm already there so I end up settling for regular 1 on1. The lady is probably late 20's, very petite, fake Cs, and a pretty disappointed ass (my most preferred feature). Slight disappointment in attraction but glad I stuck it out. Her BBBJ was probably top tier in my book, along with her rimming. Blew twice, once in the cover and another she swallowed. Didn't catch name. Overall positive experience considering the situation in Korea as a foreigner.

Saori:

Met for incall. 2 shots, CBJ and FS multiple positions. Showered offered. Meh. Wouldn't repeat.


My gut tells me that these irregularities are a result of the arrest of the customer database application manager earlier this summer. From the outside, I would hazard that there has been a fair bit of upheaval in the industry and that the dust still hasn't totally cleared.

There has been some other high profile news lately that may be putting additional unwanted pressures on the industry. A young lawmaker from Jeju has been accused of using sex services and a judge from the down south was caught red-handed at a brothel in Gangnam.Do you think this situation will cause the industry to become even more restrictive than it already is going forward? I've never seen this type of events play out in other locations I've hobby'd.

MMFgBangLover
08-06-23, 08:36
Wondering if anyone's tried Poli, the Russian gymnast on MR?

Bonjovi3
08-07-23, 02:15
Pingping from MR:

Do you think this situation will cause the industry to become even more restrictive than it already is going forward? I've never seen this type of events play out in other locations I've hobby'd.Korea definitely isn't like other countries.

To answer your question, I do think the business will become more restrictive in the future. The government is under a lot of pressure to eliminate these businesses and so crackdowns are going to continue.

Some civic group even floated the idea of making sex reviews illegal. This would criminalize sites like opgani and the users who post on them. Of course, anonymity would make enforcement impossible, but the mere fact that people are proposing such ideas means that the pressure on the industry is almost certainly going to stay amped up.

However, I don't think there will be any additional restrictions on foreigners. It's already hard enough for us to make appointments and therefore I think it will simply remain as difficult an endeavor as it already is.

Going forward, the greatest difficulty will be faced by foreign tourists looking for some fun. Within the next few years the last of the RLDs will be bulldozed for redevelopment and once they're gone guys without knowledge of the local scene will have their access to services severely diminished.

Thanks for sharing your experience at HotPlace. I've had the same experience at other Hyugetel. It's an awful waste of time to be rejected like that. It was particularly interesting to read that the manager met up with you to share a drink. I guess he must have been able to speak English fairly well?

Just the other week I got the OK to make an appointment at new Hyugetel in Nohyeon, after which the manager ghosted me for 4 hours before replying that "none of the available women are willing to work with a foreigner today. Call back when the lineup changes. ".

SlimGuy619
08-07-23, 14:03
Wondering if anyone's tried Poli, the Russian gymnast on MR?Not yet. Hoping to catch her before she leaves. She has a video recording option, which is huge for me. Also, her telegram channel has tons of pictures and video clips, so she seems fairly legit to pull the trigger on.

Nother Monger
08-08-23, 01:48
A whole load of Hyugetels have gone out of business and a whole bunch of others no longer answer the phone.

In addition, I have recently noticed that some Hyugetels have changed their phone numbers repeatedly with one in particular changing numbers 4 times in as many weeks. As if this wasn't strange enough, there has also been far less churn among the women offered by each establishment.

My gut tells me that these irregularities are a result of the arrest of the customer database application manager earlier this summer. From the outside, I would hazard that there has been a fair bit of upheaval in the industry and that the dust still hasn't totally cleared.

There has been some other high profile news lately that may be putting additional unwanted pressures on the industry. A young lawmaker from Jeju has been accused of using sex services and a judge from the down south was caught red-handed at a brothel in Gangnam.I'm generally very quiet on this forum and don't post a lot but thought I should post about this. While I don't visit Hyugetels, I've spent quite a bit of time at OPs and VVIPs and gotten direct contact info from the women that work in those places or at room salons, etc. Last month, one of the girls I see every month or two told me there was a recent bust on a fairly large OP in Gangnam. I also noticed that a large number of OPs changed their names and phone numbers around then. I was told by her that the people that run the OPs met up and decided to change their names and numbers.

I've also heard through other girls that talk with the bookers that there is an ongoing crackdown in the Gangnam area right now by the police for VVIPs establishments. I can also confirm that there were a few VVIPs that I've used that suddenly went dead. Before their account went dead, I was able to get contact info for some of the girls and talking to them directly, they told me they were shut down by the cops. For people that use VVIPs, be extremely careful around the Gangnam area right now. They are looking for people that go into hotels / motels alone. They are basically staking out some spots and will approach you when you leave and pressure you into admitting that you committed prostitution.

For foreigners that get caught and are just visiting Korea, it's probably not going to be a huge deal because you will just leave Korea anyway. The main impact I can see it having would be delaying when you can leave since you'll have to deal with the legal fallout. However, for foreign residents of Korea if you get caught and get fined over 3 million KRW, you face the possibility of deportation.

Jack Hadda
08-13-23, 05:20
Went back for a relay course.

First up was 이슬. Cute petite body, overall BBBJCIM was a 6/10.

After shower and break, second girl was. She's got to be my favorite. Great technique, pace and champ when it comes to taking the full load. Same deal, BBBJCIM, 8/10. She does this thing, which I think is called Blue Dragon? Where she will "clean" your member by continuing to go down on you with a splash of mouth wash in her mouth. It's an interesting sensation and I can't say no to her continuing to suck.

Overall, had a good time. Dmg was 130 to include 69 with both.Where is this?

Got a number or link?

SlimGuy619
08-14-23, 14:21
Where is this?

Got a number or link?I'm pretty sure I can't post these here. Check the quote below and follow those threads though. It's not very hard to find.


I think the place he's talking about is actually in Seongnam, not Seoul proper. You'll see it listed on the site there under the Korean word for honey.

June Fly
08-21-23, 00:44
Have a 12 hour (6 am to 6 pm) layover in Seoul and booked a hotel at Incheon Airtel by the airport. Any recommendation to find something that will be open to foreigners? I read some reports about Hyugetels in Dongdaemun, Gangnam. Can someone please share names of these places?

SlimGuy619
08-21-23, 10:17
Decided to randomly hit up the Opgani listings to try my luck again. Found a place that would accept me after reaching out in Korean via text. Yeoksamdong Premium Healing Hyugetel.

Wanted to splurge, so I booked an "Emperor" Course which was 240 min / Unlimited shots with options enabled with the Manager I end up with. Got the hotel address, showed up, got a room number. Met Sujin at the door. Girl-next-door type, early 20's, nice curves where they mattered. She was nice and spoke some English which facilitated the meeting, I also had to kind of play down / make her feel safe about having an "American" package. She offered me some water and we made our way to the shower. She was gentle at cleaning and provided a GFE in the shower with some kissing. After all cleaned off, made our way to her bed and went through the rest of the 4 hours going through all the motions; BBBJCIM, various positions, BBFSCIP, cuddles and micro naps. Ended up shooting 4 times after all said and done.

Going to try again soon with a positive experience. Overall damage - 550 k.

LaraTuty
08-21-23, 21:31
Decided to randomly hit up the Opgani listings to try my luck again. Found a place that would accept me after reaching out in Korean via text. Yeoksamdong Premium Healing Hyugetel.

Wanted to splurge, so I booked an "Emperor" Course which was 240 min / Unlimited shots with options enabled with the Manager I end up with. Got the hotel address, showed up, got a room number. Met Sujin at the door. Girl-next-door type, early 20's, nice curves where they mattered. She was nice and spoke some English which facilitated the meeting, I also had to kind of play down / make her feel safe about having an "American" package. She offered me some water and we made our way to the shower. She was gentle at cleaning and provided a GFE in the shower with some kissing. After all cleaned off, made our way to her bed and went through the rest of the 4 hours going through all the motions; BBBJCIM, various positions, BBFSCIP, cuddles and micro naps. Ended up shooting 4 times after all said and done.

Going to try again soon with a positive experience. Overall damage - 550 k.Thanks for the great review!

Don't you usually need verification for hyugetels? How did you get around that as a foreigner? I want to go but that's the only thing that's holding me back.

LaraTuty
08-22-23, 16:05
Decided to randomly hit up the Opgani listings to try my luck again. Found a place that would accept me after reaching out in Korean via text. Yeoksamdong Premium Healing Hyugetel.

Wanted to splurge, so I booked an "Emperor" Course which was 240 min / Unlimited shots with options enabled with the Manager I end up with. Got the hotel address, showed up, got a room number. Met Sujin at the door. Girl-next-door type, early 20's, nice curves where they mattered. She was nice and spoke some English which facilitated the meeting, I also had to kind of play down / make her feel safe about having an "American" package. She offered me some water and we made our way to the shower. She was gentle at cleaning and provided a GFE in the shower with some kissing. After all cleaned off, made our way to her bed and went through the rest of the 4 hours going through all the motions; BBBJCIM, various positions, BBFSCIP, cuddles and micro naps. Ended up shooting 4 times after all said and done.

Going to try again soon with a positive experience. Overall damage - 550 k.Don't you need verifications for hyugetels? How did you get around that? I can speak fluent Korean but that's the part that always concerned me.

Bonjovi3
08-23-23, 04:30
I'm generally very quiet on this forum and don't post a lot but thought I should post about this. While I don't visit Hyugetels, I've spent quite a bit of time at OPs and VVIPs and gotten direct contact info from the women that work in those places or at room salons, etc. Last month, one of the girls I see every month or two told me there was a recent bust on a fairly large OP in Gangnam. I also noticed that a large number of OPs changed their names and phone numbers around then. I was told by her that the people that run the OPs met up and decided to change their names and numbers.

I've also heard through other girls that talk with the bookers that there is an ongoing crackdown in the Gangnam area right now by the police for VVIPs establishments. I can also confirm that there were a few VVIPs that I've used that suddenly went dead. Before their account went dead, I was able to get contact info for some of the girls and talking to them directly, they told me they were shut down by the cops. For people that use VVIPs, be extremely careful around the Gangnam area right now. They are looking for people that go into hotels / motels alone. They are basically staking out some spots and will approach you when you leave and pressure you into admitting that you committed prostitution.

For foreigners that get caught and are just visiting Korea, it's probably not going to be a huge deal because you will just leave Korea anyway. The main impact I can see it having would be delaying when you can leave since you'll have to deal with the legal fallout. However, for foreign residents of Korea if you get caught and get fined over 3 million KRW, you face the possibility of deportation.Thanks for affirming my impression of what's happening in Seoul these days, and respect for writing such a detailed post.

FictionalSpace
08-23-23, 04:45
Have a 12 hour (6 am to 6 pm) layover in Seoul and booked a hotel at Incheon Airtel by the airport. Any recommendation to find something that will be open to foreigners? I read some reports about Hyugetels in Dongdaemun, Gangnam. Can someone please share names of these places?Neither of those neighborhoods are "near" the airport, but they're certainly doable during a long layover.

Marwar58
08-30-23, 00:59
Anyone know if Tiffany's is running and safe for caucasian foreigners?

RedMan0505
08-30-23, 10:52
I spent the last to weeks in Seoul didn't get the opportunity to play. Ate in several different neighborhood where signs indicated services was available especially around universities. I was traveling with wife and friends and at karaoke I asked for a girl and the manager ask me what I like but all the wives shut that down. I think there is fun to be had if you have the time and opportunity to play.

June Fly
08-30-23, 21:01
Decided to randomly hit up the Opgani listings to try my luck again. Found a place that would accept me after reaching out in Korean via text. Yeoksamdong Premium Healing Hyugetel.

Wanted to splurge, so I booked an "Emperor" Course which was 240 min / Unlimited shots with options enabled with the Manager I end up with. Got the hotel address, showed up, got a room number. Met Sujin at the door. Girl-next-door type, early 20's, nice curves where they mattered. She was nice and spoke some English which facilitated the meeting, I also had to kind of play down / make her feel safe about having an "American" package. She offered me some water and we made our way to the shower. She was gentle at cleaning and provided a GFE in the shower with some kissing. After all cleaned off, made our way to her bed and went through the rest of the 4 hours going through all the motions; BBBJCIM, various positions, BBFSCIP, cuddles and micro naps. Ended up shooting 4 times after all said and done.

Going to try again soon with a positive experience. Overall damage - 550 k.Nice report. Where exactly is this Hyugetel?

Turgid
09-02-23, 21:35
.... I also had to kind of play down / make her feel safe about having an "American" package. .....Don't understand this problem with the American package. The MP girls in the States have no difficulty with it.

RubberDuckyBos
09-03-23, 16:08
Don't understand this problem with the American package. The MP girls in the States have no difficulty with it.Some definitely do, at least based on self-reported reviews from braggadocious Johns. Also, the MP women coming to the states to work at least have the understanding that they'll be seeing mostly foreign clientele.

Phloppy
09-04-23, 11:11
Some definitely do, at least based on self-reported reviews from braggadocious Johns. Also, the MP women coming to the states to work at least have the understanding that they'll be seeing mostly foreign clientele.Is Braggadocious Johns a review site? I know of T E R, but have never heard of this. Do you have a URL? Google search produces nothing.

Le Lion
09-05-23, 21:22
Any tips of thai massage places in Seoul with young and attractive girls?

RubberDuckyBos
09-06-23, 18:22
Is Braggadocious Johns a review site? I know of T E R, but have never heard of this. Do you have a URL? Google search produces nothing.LOL no its not a site. I'm saying people who report reviews who brag about their size.

Phloppy
09-06-23, 22:31
LOL no its not a site. I'm saying people who report reviews who brag about their size.It should be a site!

Anyways, yeah. I consider myself to be very average in size, yet I have Korean providers telling me I am too big all the time. Maybe they think it turns me on? (I have no reaction to that, same as licking my nipples.) I've always found it strange when they did that.

June Fly
09-10-23, 20:54
Visiting Seoul for the first time. Is there a RLD in Seoul that operates during the daytime and can be visited during a long layover? Yeongdeungpo, Itaewon hooker hill, Miari? Is there any Hyugetel or massage place close to Insadong?

MMFgBangLover
09-10-23, 21:32
Visiting Seoul for the first time. Is there a RLD in Seoul that operates during the daytime and can be visited during a long layover? Yeongdeungpo, Itaewon hooker hill, Miari? Is there any Hyugetel or massage place close to Insadong?Most of those RLDs aren't open in the daytime. YDP A row opens strictly at 8 but there are old ugly ladies in the little ally and on the outside road in the daytime. Hooker hill is slightly better than those ally women look wise but still not worth it. Earliest I've noticed on passing was at the weekend around 4:30 to 5. Just one house.

Don't have much experience at miari. I can just say at night only the houses on the main normal street as opposed to all those allies are the girls more attractive. In the ally only the places right next to the street did I see one or two decent ones. So I doubt any good girls would be available daytime.

BobJohn123
09-11-23, 00:00
Visiting Seoul for the first time. Is there a RLD in Seoul that operates during the daytime and can be visited during a long layover? Yeongdeungpo, Itaewon hooker hill, Miari? Is there any Hyugetel or massage place close to Insadong?There is a massage place called 시50516;53440;51060; that gives extras near dongdaemun design plaza.

https://goo.gl/maps/2hWzTUdA6veett2s7

You will go slightly into the alley but you see the entrance. Head up the steps and ring the bell to be let in.

They only do walk-ins or same day appointments, no appointments a day or prior ahead.

Pay for the massage (starting at around 50,000 won) and then negotiate with the girl in the room for extras (HJ starting at 50,000 won).

Enjoy.

MMFgBangLover
09-11-23, 04:26
There is a massage place called 시50516;53440;51060; that gives extras near dongdaemun design plaza.

https://goo.gl/maps/2hWzTUdA6veett2s7

You will go slightly into the alley but you see the entrance. Head up the steps and ring the bell to be let in.

They only do walk-ins or same day appointments, no appointments a day or prior ahead.

Pay for the massage (starting at around 50,000 won) and then negotiate with the girl in the room for extras (HJ starting at 50,000 won).

Enjoy.How're the women and FS there, any recommendations?

June Fly
09-11-23, 19:06
There is a massage place called 시50516;53440;51060; that gives extras near dongdaemun design plaza.

https://goo.gl/maps/2hWzTUdA6veett2s7

You will go slightly into the alley but you see the entrance. Head up the steps and ring the bell to be let in.

They only do walk-ins or same day appointments, no appointments a day or prior ahead.

Pay for the massage (starting at around 50,000 won) and then negotiate with the girl in the room for extras (HJ starting at 50,000 won).

Enjoy.Thanks a lot. I'll be sure to check out.

June Fly
09-11-23, 20:07
Does anyone have info on kiss bang locations and open hours? I really like GFE once in a while, and came to know there are a few of them, Hongdae, Namdaemun, Sillim.

SlimGuy619
09-14-23, 02:44
Going to try my best to keep this concise, everything was sourced from the Opgani page.

Honey Cafe - 3 separate visits, different days, all Relay courses, all different girls for a total of 6. All but one did CIM (one that didn't simply struggled on technique). Overall never get tired of a young Korean BBBJCIM with touching and 69. Each visit with relay was 130 k.

Seongnam Hyugetel #1 - Saw a girl named Hari. Definitely not a picture accurate at all. Completely different person. Stuck around for the menu and her assets being fairly nice. 90 min, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, 2 shots. Had "unlimited" but I was tired. 230 k.

Seongnam Kissbang. Walked in, random draw girl, a little on the thick side, but pretty face. Had zero expectations on how payment worked other than paying for the hour upon entry (90 k). We talked a bit, English was decent enough, let me cop a feel and made out like highschool. About 15 m in she was on top and I slowly slide inside her while asking for permission. She let me pump her as long as I pulled out. Rested, chatted more, let me pump another doggy, pulled out and finished. 50 k to her (tipped extra since I enjoyed her sincerity).

LaraTuty
09-14-23, 17:01
Thanks for the report! Do you usually tell them you're not Korean when you text in Korean (or do you text in English)? I'm heading to Seoul soon so I'd appreciate the help.


Going to try my best to keep this concise, everything was sourced from the Opgani page.

Honey Cafe - 3 separate visits, different days, all Relay courses, all different girls for a total of 6. All but one did CIM (one that didn't simply struggled on technique). Overall never get tired of a young Korean BBBJCIM with touching and 69. Each visit with relay was 130 k.

Seongnam Hyugetel #1 - Saw a girl named Hari. Definitely not a picture accurate at all. Completely different person. Stuck around for the menu and her assets being fairly nice. 90 min, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, 2 shots. Had "unlimited" but I was tired. 230 k.

Seongnam Kissbang. Walked in, random draw girl, a little on the thick side, but pretty face. Had zero expectations on how payment worked other than paying for the hour upon entry (90 k). We talked a bit, English was decent enough, let me cop a feel and made out like highschool. About 15 m in she was on top and I slowly slide inside her while asking for permission. She let me pump her as long as I pulled out. Rested, chatted more, let me pump another doggy, pulled out and finished. 50 k to her (tipped extra since I enjoyed her sincerity).

SlimGuy619
09-15-23, 04:55
Thanks for the report! Do you usually tell them you're not Korean when you text in Korean (or do you text in English)? I'm heading to Seoul soon so I'd appreciate the help.Always tell them I'm an English Speaker / American. They will be able to tell if you are fairly quickly, or when you eventually show up. You don't want to be in a situation where you spend so much effort coordinating to ultimately be told No at showtime.

Garthie1
09-18-23, 07:35
Thanks for the report! Do you usually tell them you're not Korean when you text in Korean (or do you text in English)? I'm heading to Seoul soon so I'd appreciate the help.I texted one place from Opgani and he / she asked what course and time I wanted. I texted back that I wasn't Korean and that was the end of the conversation, so it is helpful to be upfront or else you may standing outside an apartment ringing a doorbell with no answer.

Garthie1
09-18-23, 08:41
My observations from Opgani have been that Hyugetels are mostly Thai and Gunmas are almost always Korean. The only exception to Thai Hyugetels are the One Shops, which are mostly Korean.

The prices also run much different. For the Koreans, the options are basic (or not told up front) and consist of something around 90,000 for massage / handplay, 130,000 for massage / VIP (FS I assume). For the Thai girls, it's wide open and upfront. 80,000 for 30 minutes one shot, 130,000 for 60 minutes, multiple shots, as many shots as you want, BBFS, BBFSCIP, anal, dildoes, whatever you want. It's pretty obvious the difference between the two.

I haven't tested it yet, but I'm willing to bet that it's usually the Thai providers that are going to be pimped out to foreign customers versus the Korean girls who will shut you off from the start. Just my thoughts, will be interesting to hear if Bon Jovi or another has a similar experience.

Bonjovi3
09-20-23, 08:45
My observations from Opgani have been that Hyugetels are mostly Thai and Gunmas are almost always Korean. The only exception to Thai Hyugetels are the One Shops, which are mostly Korean.

The prices also run much different. For the Koreans, the options are basic (or not told up front) and consist of something around 90,000 for massage / handplay, 130,000 for massage / VIP (FS I assume). For the Thai girls, it's wide open and upfront. 80,000 for 30 minutes one shot, 130,000 for 60 minutes, multiple shots, as many shots as you want, BBFS, BBFSCIP, anal, dildoes, whatever you want. It's pretty obvious the difference between the two.

I haven't tested it yet, but I'm willing to bet that it's usually the Thai providers that are going to be pimped out to foreign customers versus the Korean girls who will shut you off from the start. Just my thoughts, will be interesting to hear if Bon Jovi or another has a similar experience.You're spot on.

Overall, I've had better luck getting into Hyugetel, but they are also where I've put the most effort into being accepted. I put all my eggs in the Hyugetel basket because I like the direct access to services as well as the youth and beauty of the Thai women working in Korea.

The gunma I've been to have only Korean women, but they have never offered me full service on the first visit. That being said, all the women I met told me to come back again on a second visit for the real deal. I've generally not returned. Even with the temptation of full service, the women don't seem to be very open to kissing, definitely insist on condoms, and tend to be older than I want. Gunma women are fine, but they don't look like all the 20 to 40-year-old hotties walking around the streets of Seoul.

Since I haven't posted in a while, I'll add that the scene for Thai women seems to be contracting. There are fewer ads these days and fewer women advertised. I'll also add that on my last two or three bookings, the photos which promise to guarantee the looks of the woman were clearly not 100 percent accurate. It's been a bummer because the guaranteed photos used to be quite accurate if not completely accurate.

My guess is that it has gotten harder for Thai women to get into the country. Or, with Thailand seeing more tourism, it's possible that these women don't want to risk coming to Korea anymore.

AJinSeoul
09-24-23, 10:31
Seeing some reviews on kissbangs, I'm curious about how foreigner friendly they are. I'd hazard a guess that they're maybe not so much, like everything else. I'm mostly curious to see if any obviously foreign foreigners have had success, and if they needed to make a reservation or just walked in.

SlimGuy619
09-25-23, 10:32
Seeing some reviews on kissbangs, I'm curious about how foreigner friendly they are. I'd hazard a guess that they're maybe not so much, like everything else. I'm mostly curious to see if any obviously foreign foreigners have had success, and if they needed to make a reservation or just walked in.You should be able to easily check the Kissbang block at Silim station.

LovinAsia
09-25-23, 14:06
You should be able to easily check the Kissbang block at Silim station.Are they appointment only or do they accept walk ins?

SeoulSearching
09-26-23, 01:25
You're spot on.

Overall, I've had better luck getting into Hyugetel, but they are also where I've put the most effort into being accepted. I put all my eggs in the Hyugetel basket because I like the direct access to services as well as the youth and beauty of the Thai women working in Korea.

The gunma I've been to have only Korean women, but they have never offered me full service on the first visit. That being said, all the women I met told me to come back again on a second visit for the real deal. I've generally not returned. Even with the temptation of full service, the women don't seem to be very open to kissing, definitely insist on condoms, and tend to be older than I want. Gunma women are fine, but they don't look like all the 20 to 40-year-old hotties walking around the streets of Seoul.

Since I haven't posted in a while, I'll add that the scene for Thai women seems to be contracting. There are fewer ads these days and fewer women advertised. I'll also add that on my last two or three bookings, the photos which promise to guarantee the looks of the woman were clearly not 100 percent accurate. It's been a bummer because the guaranteed photos used to be quite accurate if not completely accurate.

My guess is that it has gotten harder for Thai women to get into the country. Or, with Thailand seeing more tourism, it's possible that these women don't want to risk coming to Korea anymore.My understanding is that "the gig is up" in terms of Korea and the worth of coming here. Thai women end up stuck inside, don't get to enjoy life in Korea as expected, and money is not so good anymore, given the exchange vs US dollars (a big one).

Winter is also coming. Thai women hate cold weather.

Honestly, I hardly visit anywhere, anymore. Quality sucks, MR is all trans at ridiculous prices, and younger Korean women are best had from dating sites (and I am too old for that nonsense).

These kissbangs sound interesting. If I were looking, I might try there. I would be much more interested in meeting an Eastern block / Russian type, these days.

Gladiator69
09-30-23, 17:13
Transiting in Seoul on my way to BKK. After settling down in my hotel, went to Dao anma by taking the subway at the Hak-dong station, followed the direction on their website and found the place after a 10 minutes walk. Took the elevator to the 7th floor, it was not very crowded at 9:30 PM but plenty of bros there. I speak no Korean and did not make a reservation, they asked where I was from and I told them Singapore and they let me in. A front desk lady took me to the lounge and showed me the options. Paid 260,000 Won for the only option available with 1 shot in 60 minutes. I chose the club option with a young, slim girl and was shown to shower and change into a robe. I was told to go upstairs right away. A tanned (which is rare in Asia), petite lady in her late 20's who was my main girl took me to the mirrored loud music hallway and gave me BBBJ right there with two other ladies came by to suck on my nips. Other bros were there getting the same treatment, some were even fucking right there. It's a musical chair BJ that a different girls comes and goes every once it a while. I got BBBJ from 4 different girls actually. My main girl came back and put a condom on me. She then sat on me on the high stool and we fucked some more doggie style on the floor. Then I was shown a room with no door, no curtains. Another bro was having sex with his girl there while I was getting my table shower. After the other couple was done, it was my turn. My girl gave me another BBBJ which turned into some DATY and 69. She put another condom on me and we fucked in a few positions with other couples going in and out of the room and I blew my load. After a cigarette and catching our breath, my girl took me for a tour of this place and watched other couples did the deed. It was mind-blowing watching other people getting BJ and fucks. It's exhibitionist. My girl took me back to the room which was already occupied by another couple, gave me a shower and that was the end of my first orgy. Will definitely return when I am in Seoul again.

https://www.daomas.net/home

PussyRiot
10-02-23, 04:01
Hello all, I will be staying in Seoul all October and shoot me a message if anyone wants to meet up.

I am a Korean-American who speaks fluent Korean and visited few anma places in Gangnam last time.

Just a quick two questions, is it ATM gives best rate and anyone know recent opistar site??

ATS120
10-02-23, 17:10
Travelling to Seoul soon and was looking for some options. TEB / MR all seem to have women listed around mid / late 20's. I'm sure some of their ages are fabricated but regardless, is there any recommendations for places I can find women in 40's-50's or is that just not a thing there? I'm East Asian but can't speak Korean so those Opais / Hyugtels I read from other posters here probably aren't an option.

Any help is appreciated, feel free to DM.

D Cups
10-02-23, 23:33
Transiting in Seoul on my way to BKK. After settling down in my hotel, went to Dao anma by taking the subway at the Hak-dong station, followed the direction on their website and found the place after a 10 minutes walk. Took the elevator to the 7th floor, it was not very crowded at 9:30 PM but plenty of bros there. I speak no Korean and did not make a reservation, they asked where I was from and I told them Singapore and they let me in. A front desk lady took me to the lounge and showed me the options. Paid 260,000 Won for the only option available with 1 shot in 60 minutes. I chose the club option with a young, slim girl and was shown to shower and change into a robe. I was told to go upstairs right away. A tanned (which is rare in Asia), petite lady in her late 20's who was my main girl took me to the mirrored loud music hallway and gave me BBBJ right there with two other ladies came by to suck on my nips. Other bros were there getting the same treatment, some were even fucking right there. It's a musical chair BJ that a different girls comes and goes every once it a while. I got BBBJ from 4 different girls actually. My main girl came back and put a condom on me. She then sat on me on the high stool and we fucked some more doggie style on the floor. Then I was shown a room with no door, no curtains. Another bro was having sex with his girl there while I was getting my table shower. After the other couple was done, it was my turn. My girl gave me another BBBJ which turned into some DATY and 69. She put another condom on me and we fucked in a few positions with other couples going in and out of the room and I blew my load. After a cigarette and catching our breath, my girl took me for a tour of this place and watched other couples did the deed. It was mind-blowing watching other people getting BJ and fucks. It's exhibitionist. My girl took me back to the room which was already occupied by another couple, gave me a shower and that was the end of my first orgy. Will definitely return when I am in Seoul again.

https://www.daomas.net/homeDamn that is less than $200! I may have to visit Korea. Lived there in 1981 -1982. Any big tits, Mr. Gladiator?

LovinAsia
10-03-23, 08:58
Damn that is less than $200! I may have to visit Korea. Lived there in 1981 -1982. Any big tits, Mr. Gladiator?But he is Asian I assume. You might get another whole negative reaction if you're a white guy walking in there.

Enter The V
10-03-23, 13:48
Transiting in Seoul on my way to BKK. After settling down in my hotel, went to Dao anma by taking the subway at the Hak-dong station, followed the direction on their website and found the place after a 10 minutes walk. Took the elevator to the 7th floor, it was not very crowded at 9:30 PM but plenty of bros there. I speak no Korean and did not make a reservation, they asked where I was from and I told them Singapore and they let me in. A front desk lady took me to the lounge and showed me the options. Paid 260,000 Won for the only option available with 1 shot in 60 minutes. I chose the club option with a young, slim girl and was shown to shower and change into a robe. I was told to go upstairs right away. A tanned (which is rare in Asia), petite lady in her late 20's who was my main girl took me to the mirrored loud music hallway and gave me BBBJ right there with two other ladies came by to suck on my nips. Other bros were there getting the same treatment, some were even fucking right there. It's a musical chair BJ that a different girls comes and goes every once it a while. I got BBBJ from 4 different girls actually. My main girl came back and put a condom on me. She then sat on me on the high stool and we fucked some more doggie style on the floor. Then I was shown a room with no door, no curtains. Another bro was having sex with his girl there while I was getting my table shower. After the other couple was done, it was my turn. My girl gave me another BBBJ which turned into some DATY and 69. She put another condom on me and we fucked in a few positions with other couples going in and out of the room and I blew my load.Sounds like Heaven, The USA will never have this.

Wolfpack23
10-03-23, 15:20
First off I want to state the sad state of affairs of the rld's in Seoul disappearing. Is Miari the last one operating or are they even? Seems like the government has cracked down on them for good now? Sad to see the Suwon location go.

Anyways, after much scrolling through here I read that there's a kiss bang or 2 in Hongdae? I went in search of one today but came out empty handed. I followed the directions to the one by the L7 Hotel near exit 1. It is supposed to be on the 2nd floor of a brick building where there's a restaurant on the bottom right? It used to go by the name 'Kiss Time'? I didn't see any signage with that name. I did see the windows still covered so perhaps it's a new kiss bang operation now? It was a 3 worded name, I don't remember exactly what it was but it had the 'blue'. When I went to the 2nd floor door it seemed to be heavily secured. There were 2-3 security cam boxes like things on the door and a blue 'adt' light thing above on the ceiling. Went to the 3rd floor and there were some slippers out for what looked like a dancing / ballerina place? No idea, but that's just what I got from looking at the logo. Went back down to the 2nd floor but didn't have the guts to ring the bell so I left LOL can anyone confirm that this is an actual kiss bang? I've never been to one and with the rld's being shutdown, I thought I could try this experience instead.

StineWall007
10-04-23, 17:39
I am a regular member on the us forums. I am visiting in 2 weeks. I am in the process of looking through the pages here. In the meantime does anyone have so info / advice to guide me? I am a white foreigner and speak a little Korean. Looking for any spots to have some nice dreams when I'm not clubbing. I appreciate anything you can offer. My inbox is open!

SaltyDays
10-07-23, 21:48
I was wondering if there was any massages in seoul that includes happy endings done by korean women? The massages I've been to in seoul and from this forum are usually done by thai women or non korean women, curious if any of them are done by koreans that are around 20-40 not the old grandmas.

In busan they seem to have a quite a few done by youngish koreans, why not seoul?

Gladiator69
10-07-23, 22:51
Damn that is less than $200! I may have to visit Korea. Lived there in 1981 -1982. Any big tits, Mr. Gladiator?No big tits but all very decent. No girl was flat-chested.

StineWall007
10-13-23, 12:37
No big tits but all very decent. No girl was flat-chested.Do I need cash mostly for these places?

TimeToTravel88
10-17-23, 09:39
Going to try my best to keep this concise, everything was sourced from the Opgani page.

Honey Cafe - 3 separate visits, different days, all Relay courses, all different girls for a total of 6. All but one did CIM (one that didn't simply struggled on technique). Overall never get tired of a young Korean BBBJCIM with touching and 69. Each visit with relay was 130 k.

Seongnam Hyugetel #1 - Saw a girl named Hari. Definitely not a picture accurate at all. Completely different person. Stuck around for the menu and her assets being fairly nice. 90 min, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, 2 shots. Had "unlimited" but I was tired. 230 k.

Seongnam Kissbang. Walked in, random draw girl, a little on the thick side, but pretty face. Had zero expectations on how payment worked other than paying for the hour upon entry (90 k). We talked a bit, English was decent enough, let me cop a feel and made out like highschool. About 15 m in she was on top and I slowly slide inside her while asking for permission. She let me pump her as long as I pulled out. Rested, chatted more, let me pump another doggy, pulled out and finished. 50 k to her (tipped extra since I enjoyed her sincerity).I went to opgani website and I cannot find honey Cafe. Or there is not many options in opgani. I registered and I am trying to find it.

Can you help me here.

SeoulSearching
10-18-23, 05:16
Met up with Eunee from Itaewon for a HJ, recently. She was moving from XO to Tiffany club, and said she would work some daytime. Haven't been by to check in the past 3 or 4 weeks, tho. FYI, the mamasan at her old job was bragging about Eunee getting plugged by 9 guys in one night! She is one of the few left on "the Hill", and is 40's and short / cute for her age, but not overweight. I would definitely wrap it, but if you are desperate, she'll probably FS for 100 k.

RedConcept
10-18-23, 09:45
Going to try my best to keep this concise, everything was sourced from the Opgani page.

Honey Cafe - 3 separate visits, different days, all Relay courses, all different girls for a total of 6. All but one did CIM (one that didn't simply struggled on technique). Overall never get tired of a young Korean BBBJCIM with touching and 69. Each visit with relay was 130 k.

Seongnam Hyugetel #1 - Saw a girl named Hari. Definitely not a picture accurate at all. Completely different person. Stuck around for the menu and her assets being fairly nice. 90 min, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, 2 shots. Had "unlimited" but I was tired. 230 k.

Seongnam Kissbang. Walked in, random draw girl, a little on the thick side, but pretty face. Had zero expectations on how payment worked other than paying for the hour upon entry (90 k). We talked a bit, English was decent enough, let me cop a feel and made out like highschool. About 15 m in she was on top and I slowly slide inside her while asking for permission. She let me pump her as long as I pulled out. Rested, chatted more, let me pump another doggy, pulled out and finished. 50 k to her (tipped extra since I enjoyed her sincerity).Where exactly is Honey Cafe?

BTW, been going to Yeongdeungpo-gu for 100 k but sometimes girls will quote me 150 k. Place is still up and running.

MMFgBangLover
10-18-23, 17:37
She is one of the few left on "the Hill", and is 40's and short / cute for her age, but not overweight. I would definitely wrap it, but if you are desperate, she'll probably FS for 100 k.There's a newish girl around that street at Apple bar. Name is Jane. 33 at most. Big chest and hips, nice legs, normal weight, fair skin, cute face. Around 170 in height. Only seen Friday night and the odd Sunday. Red wings confirmed not trans, in case anyone is wondering with all the trans bars around there.

LovinAsia
10-19-23, 00:47
Where exactly is Honey Cafe?

BTW, been going to Yeongdeungpo-gu for 100 k but sometimes girls will quote me 150 k. Place is still up and running.Is that for like 20 min or longer? CFS?

SlimGuy619
10-26-23, 14:37
I went to opgani website and I cannot find honey Cafe. Or there is not many options in opgani. I registered and I am trying to find it.Just look under the Seongnam region, it will stand out. Very bee / honey themed.


Where exactly is Honey Cafe?Off Moran station.

Markeloff23
10-27-23, 18:13
I have completed a list which by no means is everything, but a starting number see attached pdf "New Microsoft Excel Worksheet".

Here is a link to some that I managed to map http://u.osmfr.org/m/932409/. (Most I guess due to crackdowns don't give an address).

For the ones with the phone #'s as other members mentioned send them a message in Korean telling them you are a foreigner (no reply propably means they are not interested LOL).

References:

https://opgani14.com

https://oping33.com/

https://lonelynight.net/

www.mybodyshop.co.kr (Has both dirty and real massages).

https://141hongkong.com/ (Another form with good info use Google Translate).You have alternative pdf URL?

JaneCzek2000
11-02-23, 07:57
Opgani14 is down. Any idea if there's any alternative address for their website?

MMFgBangLover
11-02-23, 15:31
Opgani14 is down. Any idea if there's any alternative address for their website?Opgani15 com is the website.

ChookMaster
11-04-23, 17:46
Opgani15 com is the website.Opgani15.com doesn't seem to be working either!

SeoulSearching
11-09-23, 02:17
Looks like it involved Koreans, based on the pimps busted. There are articles by many other news outlets, but this one has photos of the prices and services involved, which proves interesting. The "high-end," clients pay less than many places here.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/feds-bust-high-end-brothel-politicians-military-officers-allegedly-paid-sex

Nother Monger
11-11-23, 03:17
Looks like it involved Koreans, based on the pimps busted. There are articles by many other news outlets, but this one has photos of the prices and services involved, which proves interesting. The "high-end," clients pay less than many places here.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/feds-bust-high-end-brothel-politicians-military-officers-allegedly-paid-sexWhen I lived in the states and mongered frequently I knew a few girls that went to that org to make money. If you follow the US monger scene, a lot of the girls cycle from location to location. Is it possible that some are trafficked? I suppose there might be some, but all the regular providers that I knew in the US would tell me they'd go to different cities to work. Not a single person told me it was against their will. To be clear, if someone was trafficked against their will then it should stopped.

Finally, this is just my personal opinion, but the overall quality of providers in the states has gone down in terms of looks and up in terms of age.

Magicmike403
11-12-23, 08:29
Hey, I will be in Korea staying at the Pentaz hotel and was wondering if anyone knows of any action around Konkuk university station? I can't seem to get any recent hits from the search function.

Magicmike403
11-12-23, 08:45
Hello.

I will staying at the pentaz hotel later this week and was wondering if anyone knows of any action in the Konkuk university station area?

Bonjovi3
11-14-23, 07:37
The state of the scene in Korea is pretty abysmal these days. After having had many great experiences, written up in a number of reports, I think I'm officially done with it. My reasons are various, but the main one is due to the number of poor experiences I've had lately. There hasn't been anything outright awful, but I've gotten nothing but older women (late 30's early 40's) on my last few visits. I'm not opposed to an older woman, but I like them to be sexy and willing, which has not been the case for a matter of months now.

During one of my recent encounters, I did manage to meet a young pretty woman who matched the picture in her advert, but she didn't allow DATY or kissing, and without such services the experience was far too one-dimensional. In the absence of any passion on the part of the women, I have decided that I'd rather just give myself a tight gripped handy at home.

As far as I'm concerned, the golden age of attractive Thai women offering quality service in Korea is over. The last five years have been pretty good to me, and I wish I could say I was optimistic about the future of p4 p in Korea, but I don't think the scene will rebound in the near future. All signs point to a declining market. There are: fewer real photos on the popular sites; more ads being removed at a faster and faster pace; and more women seemingly content to stay in Thailand where they can earn nearly as much money as they earn in Korea without the hassle of illegal immigration.

In addition, there hasn't been much good news for the Korean gangs who run these operations. Alongside the increased crackdowns within Korea, Korean pimps have been getting busted all around the world. In just the last couple of months there have been huge busts in Thailand, Vietnam, and the USA. Whether they are bringing women into Korea as is the case with Thais and Viets or whether they are taking Korean women out of Korea as is the case in the USA, these Korean gangs are being carefully watched by the authorities.

Having experienced this recent decline in quality as well as the increased difficulty in finding open businesses, I've decided that I'm better off spending my money and time on other pursuits.

Take care, have a great one, and thanks for all the reports.

P.S.: That being said, I don't want to discourage those of you who are still in the market. Therefore, I'll leave on a positive note and remind you that it's not impossible for foreigners to get service in this city. Despite nearly every dependable Hyugetel in the city having closed, there is still one where I know I am welcome. In addition, I want to let you know that when I call newly opened operations, I still get a positive response rate of about 1 in 10. The last few times, however, I haven't followed up on offers due to time constraints.

KMax212
11-14-23, 15:24
I'm back in Seoul and armed with a Korean number this time. Should be able to make more inroads, and yet I am finding that opgani seems to have died down quite a bit. The number of listings is much much lower. Last year you could find listings in any Seoul neighborhood and yet now many are completely empty. I'm finding more listings on lonelynight surprisingly. Any reason why for the shift?

First review. Massage spot here. Clearly new to the game since I didn't realize that massages were actually just handies and that for.

More I need to go elsewhere. Girl was OK, definitely not as advertised but not bad either. Minimal touching allowed too surprisingly. Massages aren't the category going forward I guess.

https://lonelynight.net/store/1697454269-영46321;54252;49828;50920;46356;49884;50689;46321;54252;49884;51109;50669;10084;YG-54620;44397;51064;20대10084;11088;50732;53448;11088;.

KMax212
11-14-23, 15:47
I only check this forum when I'm back in Korea, about 1 x / year, but this makes me sad. Your posts have always been valuable and genuinely helpful. I imagine this info must have moved to other forums, maybe telegram chats? If anyone knows of these, would be helpful to share.

What other hobbies could possibly fill this space if you don't mind me asking?


The state of the scene in Korea is pretty abysmal these days. After having had many great experiences, written up in a number of reports, I think I'm officially done with it. My reasons are various, but the main one is due to the number of poor experiences I've had lately. There hasn't been anything outright awful, but I've gotten nothing but older women (late 30's early 40's) on my last few visits. I'm not opposed to an older woman, but I like them to be sexy and willing, which has not been the case for a matter of months now.

During one of my recent encounters, I did manage to meet a young pretty woman who matched the picture in her advert, but she didn't allow DATY or kissing, and without such services the experience was far too one-dimensional. In the absence of any passion on the part of the women, I have decided that I'd rather just give myself a tight gripped handy at home.

As far as I'm concerned, the golden age of attractive Thai women offering quality service in Korea is over. The last five years have been pretty good to me, and I wish I could say I was optimistic about the future of p4 p in Korea, but I don't think the scene will rebound in the near future. All signs point to a declining market. There are: fewer real photos on the popular sites; more ads being removed at a faster and faster pace; and more women seemingly content to stay in Thailand where they can earn nearly as much money as they earn in Korea without the hassle of illegal immigration.

KMax212
11-14-23, 23:14
I am back in town and bumping this back up. I hate to do this but preference is going to be for other gyopos or asians *only* because our success of getting into places will be much higher. Obviously much better if you speak korean and are familiar with culture / customs here.


My own apologies now for the delayed response. I missed your initial response somehow. Agreed that there's a whole world just for groups (as well as discounted rates sometimes I hear if the group is big enough) and I'the be excited to explore. I didn't even realize opgani had a messaging / reservation system. I just saw phone numbers mentioned everywhere so assumed that was it. Is it their own messaging system? Or just email or something you message separately?

The forum messaging system is odd. My google-male is my username here x 2 if you want to reach out to me there. (kmax212 kmax212).

Garthie1
11-15-23, 22:38
There's a newish girl around that street at Apple bar. Name is Jane. 33 at most. Big chest and hips, nice legs, normal weight, fair skin, cute face. Around 170 in height. Only seen Friday night and the odd Sunday. Red wings confirmed not trans, in case anyone is wondering with all the trans bars around there.I don't know if there's anyone at Apple Bar now, it was closed when I went last Thursday and has always been closed when I've visited. I went to Pandora and Nana was working. She's nice and fun with a pretty good body and big tits. Suzy and Candy were working at Tiffany's with two other girls- the other girls seemed to be pretty good looking and Suzy and Candy are still pretty good. I didn't go up the Hill, so not sure if Bean or who else working on it. Overall, it's foreigner friendly, which is hard to come by these days and the prices are around 100,000 if you don't let them upsell you.

SeoulSearching
11-20-23, 03:32
I don't know if there's anyone at Apple Bar now, it was closed when I went last Thursday and has always been closed when I've visited. I went to Pandora and Nana was working. She's nice and fun with a pretty good body and big tits. Suzy and Candy were working at Tiffany's with two other girls- the other girls seemed to be pretty good looking and Suzy and Candy are still pretty good. I didn't go up the Hill, so not sure if Bean or who else working on it. Overall, it's foreigner friendly, which is hard to come by these days and the prices are around 100,000 if you don't let them upsell you.Wondering if that Jane lady is Janie, who used to work Nymph bar over 15 years ago? She also worked in hair and nails. I have been meaning to drop into the area and see what's up, bit haven't gotten around to it. When are all of these other ladies around, working with Candy? Day or night? Any specific day of the week? Thanks.

Garthie1
11-22-23, 23:58
Wondering if that Jane lady is Janie, who used to work Nymph bar over 15 years ago? She also worked in hair and nails. I have been meaning to drop into the area and see what's up, bit haven't gotten around to it. When are all of these other ladies around, working with Candy? Day or night? Any specific day of the week? Thanks.Your best bet is on a Friday or Saturday. Not sure about the Nymph being open, it wasn't when I went on Thursday. The girls at Tiffany, Pandora, Texas, and Bean up the hill are all there, but maybe not during the first part of the week.

The Hill's still stubbornly clinging to life, same as the Grand Ole Opry. It's still fun since it's foreigner friendly and the girls aren't bad looking.

GuyReynolds
11-23-23, 09:07
Anyone have any information on Candy bar and CC Bar next to Apple? Or that massage parlor across the street from Apple? Is the Grand Ole Opry just a regular bar or is it for pickups? Same for the East&West Club. I'm guessing the rest of the places up the hill are either transgender, closed, or have women pushing a little later in years. Been a while since I was in that area of Itaewon.

SeoulSearching
11-23-23, 12:19
Anyone have any information on Candy bar and CC Bar next to Apple? Or that massage parlor across the street from Apple? Is the Grand Ole Opry just a regular bar or is it for pickups? Same for the East&West Club. I'm guessing the rest of the places up the hill are either transgender, closed, or have women pushing a little later in years. Been a while since I was in that area of Itaewon.If the massage place is still there, I went like 8 years ago. It was winter, cold and draft, and the poor Thai lady working there was frozen like an ice cube. She put an electric heater on us. Didn't go back. They probably cycle through overweight Thai ajummas now, like many places.

Candy Bar may or may not be trans? Is CC bar even around anymore?

By the names Garth mentioned, I am guessing I know who 4 of the 5 ladies are: Eunnie, Suzy (Sue), the owner (don't remember her real name) and Candy. Not sure who the 5th lady is, so I am curious to see.

I have visited all of them, thru the years. Most have been around for 15 to 20 years, and used to work at VIP Bar before the roof fell in.

MMFgBangLover
11-24-23, 05:43
Wondering if that Jane lady is Janie, who used to work Nymph bar over 15 years ago? She also worked in hair and nails. I have been meaning to drop into the area and see what's up, bit haven't gotten around to it. When are all of these other ladies around, working with Candy? Day or night? Any specific day of the week? Thanks.Afaik Jane is early 30s, over 15 years ago might not maths. Only seen her at Apple on Fridays past 10 pm.

Otherwise, can only suggest the older pale lady at Texas bar. Not the big woman or the fringe haired tan one sometimes there. Seems the most put together and has a great bod and attitude.

CurtisMack
11-24-23, 09:19
Hello all. I see some of the hyugetel ads show upsell options such as BBFS for +2. I assume this mean additional 20 k is that correct? Thanks in advance.

Wilson6418
11-26-23, 13:22
Hello all. I see some of the hyugetel ads show upsell options such as BBFS for +2. I assume this mean additional 20 k is that correct? Thanks in advance.That would be correct, but expect the girl to be from Thailand or somewhere else and not a Korean girl.

CurtisMack
11-27-23, 05:40
I will be visiting Korea in 2024, and have begun doing my research and thought I would share some of my kissbang location findings in case this is helpful for others. I am an American-born Korean, and visit Korea often, but I typically just go to anmas as they are easy and being Korean (although my language skills are at best decent) I have not been turned away at one even ones I found by recognizing a sign while just walking around. This time I want to explore some other offerings, so I will be looking to visit some hyugetels, kissbangs and lip cafes. If I'm lucky, maybe even an officetel.

I have noticed that opgani site does not list any kissbangs in the Sillim and Hongdae areas, and based on my searches from this site those are the two best areas for them because of the availability of college girls looking to make a few extra bucks on the side. And searching this site shows several others looking for them as well. So I fired up naver maps and just started looking at street views for signs with the letter K and these are the ones I was able to find in case others are looking for them. I noticed that the timestamp on google maps street views were from several years ago while naver maps timestamps were more recent, as some of the kissbangs mentioned in this site were showing up on google maps but not in the more recent naver maps.

In Sillim.

https://naver.me/IgDFtUvn

https://naver.me/xt5nbu11

https://naver.me/5XT89StO

https://naver.me/xDjqsNgl

In Hongdae.

https://naver.me/FZWBJ5g8

https://naver.me/FWfwJXUh

I hope this helps some of you looking for kissbangs, and I hope these are still around when I get there LOL.

Also, on my last trip to Korea in 2022 I went to Jinju Spa and noticed that the name changed. I walked in anyways and the employee at the counter asked if I had been there before, and I said yes when it was Jinju spa. Then he told me that ownership changed and he asked me something in Korean, which I did not understand. All I could make out was "Are you looking for (something in Korean) service?" So I replied in my limited language skills that I apologize but I was born in America and did not understand, but I was looking for the same service I got when it was Jinju. To which he replied that they do not do that anymore. I don't know if he was lying because my language skills were bad or if they truly do not do that anymore. Anyways, I was looking to find something similar. All my experiences there have been great, an excellent legit massage by an older Korean lady followed by a BBBJCIM from a young pretty Korean girl. Is there another place in Seoul that has similar services? Or perhaps they still do that under new ownership, and if so what is that service called in Korean?

Enter The V
11-27-23, 11:15
Any updates on YDP? Girl quality? Prices? So it only opens 8 pm onwards right? Take care of it guys we don't want it being demolished like 588 and Suwons RLD.

SlimGuy619
11-28-23, 13:11
I will be visiting Korea in 2024, and have begun doing my research and thought I would share some of my kissbang location findings in case this is helpful for others. I am an American-born Korean, and visit Korea often, but I typically just go to anmas as they are easy and being Korean (although my language skills are at best decent) I have not been turned away at one even ones I found by recognizing a sign while just walking around. This time I want to explore some other offerings, so I will be looking to visit some hyugetels, kissbangs and lip cafes. If I'm lucky, maybe even an officetel.

I have noticed that opgani site does not list any kissbangs in the Sillim and Hongdae areas, and based on my searches from this site those are the two best areas for them because of the availability of college girls looking to make a few extra bucks on the side. And searching this site shows several others looking for them as well. So I fired up naver maps and just started looking at street views for signs with the letter K and these are the ones I was able to find in case others are looking for them. I noticed that the timestamp on google maps street views were from several years ago while naver maps timestamps were more recent, as some of the kissbangs mentioned in this site were showing up on google maps but not in the more recent naver maps.

In Sillim.

https://naver.me/IgDFtUvn

https://naver.me/xt5nbu11

https://naver.me/5XT89StO

https://naver.me/xDjqsNgl

In Hongdae.

https://naver.me/FZWBJ5g8

https://naver.me/FWfwJXUh

I hope this helps some of you looking for kissbangs, and I hope these are still around when I get there LOL.

Also, on my last trip to Korea in 2022 I went to Jinju Spa and noticed that the name changed. I walked in anyways and the employee at the counter asked if I had been there before, and I said yes when it was Jinju spa. Then he told me that ownership changed and he asked me something in Korean, which I did not understand. All I could make out was "Are you looking for (something in Korean) service?" So I replied in my limited language skills that I apologize but I was born in America and did not understand, but I was looking for the same service I got when it was Jinju. To which he replied that they do not do that anymore. I don't know if he was lying because my language skills were bad or if they truly do not do that anymore. Anyways, I was looking to find something similar. All my experiences there have been great, an excellent legit massage by an older Korean lady followed by a BBBJCIM from a young pretty Korean girl. Is there another place in Seoul that has similar services? Or perhaps they still do that under new ownership, and if so what is that service called in Korean?Hit me up when you're in town and I think we can knock out some of that To-do list you got there. .

Banana Boi
11-28-23, 17:42
Kissbang locations research for upcoming Korea tripThank you so much for your post. I find things very difficult to find in Korea. Hopefully your maps will help the directionally challenged like myself find the Kissbangs.

Wish this site gave me the option to save important posts.

PutinBerg1
11-29-23, 10:24
Just an FYI.

I tried to visit Tiffany Anma today. Even though their website contains pricing for Caucasians, they refused entry and said that only foreigners that are Asian are allowed.

Dao Anma was about the same thing.

Eventually went to Castle Anma https://www.castleanma.net.

As a foreigner the bill extra over the listed price, you do not get access to the club, only a room with the girl you choose. Bottom line, was nothing special, you can get similar services for way cheaper.

SlimGuy619
11-29-23, 12:08
Been busy and haven't visited in a while. They never fail me.

I inquire about mixing some courses to double dip.

Make a reservation with Dalgon. She's my favorite.

20 min BBBJCIM w /69&DATY. Her body is perfect, mirror complements her well, great curves to grip, and amazing slow finish drawing every drop. We hash out how long I want to rest and she steps out.

Shower, brush teeth, reset myself. I chill on my phone for about 20 m.

Dalgon returns to the room with Haru.

15 min BBBJCIM, 2:1 Emperor's Course.

They get to work pretty quickly. Dalgon is licking my chest and Haru is working a nice slow warm BBBJ. Their techniques are very different from each other but equally amazing. My hands roam both of their chests and Dalgon's ass. I couldn't hold out long enough to see if they would have ultimately swapped positions.

Overall enjoyed myself once more.

70 k+90 k = 160 k total damage.

ChookMaster
12-01-23, 17:10
Hi, where can I find Honey Cafe?

MMFgBangLover
12-02-23, 17:38
Hi, where can I find Honey Cafe?Opgani website. Seongnam region.

AsiaFever
12-02-23, 17:50
Trying to plan a visit to Seoul for the first time, will try and read pages to see what is good. Any recommendations on areas to stay in as a first timer?

I assume I can use metro to get around, do don't need to stay in the "areas", but if there are recommendations I'd appreciate it.

Can PM as well if needed.

Newton York
12-03-23, 23:08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE5EvC4aVeE

How true is any of this? I've been to South Korea, had a blast at some anmas and as far as I can tell, everybody in South Korea is pretty loaded. Designer clothes, fantastic cars, highly educated, and damn near perfect English although they're very shy to speak it, and for some weird reason tend to have American accents. Everybody's so polite, and essentially zero crime. I've met some Koreans here in the states and they tell me life is great in South Korea, good work life balance, free education, low taxes. I'm inclined to believe this report, CNA is Singapore's main news outlet, and if you can't trust Singapore, who can you trust? Weirdly, when I had to go do my thing for uncle Sam decades ago in South East Asia, I actually met some South Koreans on our side.

Also, if you're in Seoul, I recommend Tiffany Anma. About 200 bucks for an hour, other options available. A little cheaper if you're local. At this point, it's cheaper to bang a Korean chick in Seoul than in NYC. They cost about 300 bucks now here in the tri-state area, so that's a no go for me.

And who wouldn't love Goshiwons? You get to live apart from people in your own room, it's super cheap rent at 200 bucks for a month? Holy moses. Talk about savings. Rat race? At least there are jobs out there. At this point, I can't even get a job at the post office where I live. Why are things so much better everywhere except where I am now, and where I've been before? Ain't got no luck I tell ya fellas. I just ain't got no luck. God, I'll sell my soul to Mammon for 15 million US Dollars if it'll get me out of this hole that's my life. BTW, the only paradise in Asia is Thailand, just my two cents. No other country comes close.

SeoulSearching
12-04-23, 09:29
Afaik Jane is early 30s, over 15 years ago might not maths. Only seen her at Apple on Fridays past 10 pm.

Otherwise, can only suggest the older pale lady at Texas bar. Not the big woman or the fringe haired tan one sometimes there. Seems the most put together and has a great bod and attitude.I am curious about who is at Texas. Haven't seen anyone there for a while.

There is also a Candy bar blonde in her upper 40's used to work at the bar above XO. I forget her name. She has been around over 7 years, on and off. White skin and bleach blonde hair. Sometimes red nails. She was the one whose name I didn't know. Not my type, but maybe for others? All of the ladies at Candy are 40-50+. I saw S. There recently. CBJ and blew a volcanic load all over her body. Surprised her by how much. Haha. She has the best skin on her butt and hips, even still. Eunie is there too, and looks really cute when she wears this short Chinese dress. I prefer meeting these people 1-on-1 daytime, rather than when the bar is full. Candy bar is a tight space for so many working at once.

SeoulSearching
12-04-23, 09:29
Afaik Jane is early 30s, over 15 years ago might not maths. Only seen her at Apple on Fridays past 10 pm.

Otherwise, can only suggest the older pale lady at Texas bar. Not the big woman or the fringe haired tan one sometimes there. Seems the most put together and has a great bod and attitude.I am curious about who is at Texas. Haven't seen anyone there for a while.

There is also a Candy bar blonde in her upper 40's used to work at the bar above XO. I forget her name. She has been around over 7 years, on and off. White skin and bleach blonde hair. Sometimes red nails. She was the one whose name I didn't know. Not my type, but maybe for others? All of the ladies at Candy are 40-50+. I saw S. There recently. She had me wound up to CBJ and I blew a volcanic load all over her body. Surprised her by how much. Haha. She has the best skin on her butt and hips, even still. Eunie is there too, and looks really cute when she wears this short Chinese dress. I prefer meeting these people 1-on-1 daytime, rather than when the bar is full. Candy bar is a tight space for so many working at once.

Enter The V
12-04-23, 12:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE5EvC4aVeE

How true is any of this? I've been to South Korea, had a blast at some anmas and as far as I can tell, everybody in South Korea is pretty loaded. Designer clothes, fantastic cars, highly educated, and damn near perfect English although they're very shy to speak it, and for some weird reason tend to have American accents. Everybody's so polite, and essentially zero crime. I've met some Koreans here in the states and they tell me life is great in South Korea, good work life balance, free education, low taxes. I'm inclined to believe this report, CNA is Singapore's main news outlet, and if you can't trust Singapore, who can you trust? Weirdly, when I had to go do my thing for uncle Sam decades ago in South East Asia, I actually met some South Koreans on our side.

Also, if you're in Seoul, I recommend Tiffany Anma. About 200 bucks for an hour, other options available. A little cheaper if you're local. At this point, it's cheaper to bang a Korean chick in Seoul than in NYC. They cost about 300 bucks now here in the tri-state area, so that's a no go for me.

And who wouldn't love Goshiwons? You get to live apart from people in your own room, it's super cheap rent at 200 bucks for a month? Holy moses. Talk about savings. Rat race? At least there are jobs out there. At this point, I can't even get a job at the post office where I live. Why are things so much better everywhere except where I am now, and where I've been before? Ain't got no luck I tell ya fellas. I just ain't got no luck. God, I'll sell my soul to Mammon for 15 million US Dollars if it'll get me out of this hole that's my life. BTW, the only paradise in Asia is Thailand, just my two cents. No other country comes close.USA is perhaps on top of the worst countries to live bro its ridiculous anywhere at this point is better.

LovinAsia
12-04-23, 12:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE5EvC4aVeE

How true is any of this? I've been to South Korea, had a blast at some anmas and as far as I can tell, everybody in South Korea is pretty loaded. Designer clothes, fantastic cars, highly educated, and damn near perfect English although they're very shy to speak it, and for some weird reason tend to have American accents. Everybody's so polite, and essentially zero crime. I've met some Koreans here in the states and they tell me life is great in South Korea, good work life balance, free education, low taxes. I'm inclined to believe this report, CNA is Singapore's main news outlet, and if you can't trust Singapore, who can you trust? Weirdly, when I had to go do my thing for uncle Sam decades ago in South East Asia, I actually met some South Koreans on our side.

Also, if you're in Seoul, I recommend Tiffany Anma. About 200 bucks for an hour, other options available. A little cheaper if you're local. At this point, it's cheaper to bang a Korean chick in Seoul than in NYC. They cost about 300 bucks now here in the tri-state area, so that's a no go for me.

And who wouldn't love Goshiwons? You get to live apart from people in your own room, it's super cheap rent at 200 bucks for a month? Holy moses. Talk about savings. Rat race? At least there are jobs out there. At this point, I can't even get a job at the post office where I live. Why are things so much better everywhere except where I am now, and where I've been before? Ain't got no luck I tell ya fellas. I just ain't got no luck. God, I'll sell my soul to Mammon for 15 million US Dollars if it'll get me out of this hole that's my life. BTW, the only paradise in Asia is Thailand, just my two cents. No other country comes close.So where is the hell hole you live in now??

Enter The V
12-06-23, 13:09
So where is the hell hole you live in now??He made it clear the Hell Hole we are living in is the USA.

PutinBerg1
12-07-23, 20:14
They are foreigner friendly but only 1-1.

Despite confirming with them in advance that club experience is available, when I arrived, they said it's a mistake. Paid 280,000 for a bit mature no butt and no English.

Phloppy
12-07-23, 22:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE5EvC4aVeE

How true is any of this? I've been to South Korea, had a blast at some anmas and as far as I can tell, everybody in South Korea is pretty loaded. Designer clothes, fantastic cars, highly educated, and damn near perfect English although they're very shy to speak it, and for some weird reason tend to have American accents. Everybody's so polite, and essentially zero crime. I've met some Koreans here in the states and they tell me life is great in South Korea, good work life balance, free education, low taxes. I'm inclined to believe this report, CNA is Singapore's main news outlet, and if you can't trust Singapore, who can you trust? Weirdly, when I had to go do my thing for uncle Sam decades ago in South East Asia, I actually met some South Koreans on our side.

Also, if you're in Seoul, I recommend Tiffany Anma. About 200 bucks for an hour, other options available. A little cheaper if you're local. At this point, it's cheaper to bang a Korean chick in Seoul than in NYC. They cost about 300 bucks now here in the tri-state area, so that's a no go for me.

And who wouldn't love Goshiwons? You get to live apart from people in your own room, it's super cheap rent at 200 bucks for a month? Holy moses. Talk about savings. Rat race? At least there are jobs out there. At this point, I can't even get a job at the post office where I live. Why are things so much better everywhere except where I am now, and where I've been before? Ain't got no luck I tell ya fellas. I just ain't got no luck. God, I'll sell my soul to Mammon for 15 million US Dollars if it'll get me out of this hole that's my life. BTW, the only paradise in Asia is Thailand, just my two cents. No other country comes close.Korea has some of the highest household debt in the world. So a lot of those people buying fancy cars, clothes, etc. Are doing so on debt.

I went to a couple MR ladies in the last couple years, but I can't affird to keep doing so. Thankfully, some Hyugyeteks and gunmas still accept white guys. You can go to those for less than 200 k for 2+ shots. Still, like RainMania said a long time ago, if you are going to drop a million won on sex, you might as well get a round trip to Thailand and enjoy a King's sex life in a day for the same amount as you would spend for an hour here.

Nother Monger
12-08-23, 00:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE5EvC4aVeE

How true is any of this? I've been to South Korea, had a blast at some anmas and as far as I can tell, everybody in South Korea is pretty loaded. Designer clothes, fantastic cars, highly educated, and damn near perfect English although they're very shy to speak it, and for some weird reason tend to have American accents. Everybody's so polite, and essentially zero crime. I've met some Koreans here in the states and they tell me life is great in South Korea, good work life balance, free education, low taxes. I'm inclined to believe this report, CNA is Singapore's main news outlet, and if you can't trust Singapore, who can you trust? Weirdly, when I had to go do my thing for uncle Sam decades ago in South East Asia, I actually met some South Koreans on our side.

Also, if you're in Seoul, I recommend Tiffany Anma. About 200 bucks for an hour, other options available. A little cheaper if you're local. At this point, it's cheaper to bang a Korean chick in Seoul than in NYC. They cost about 300 bucks now here in the tri-state area, so that's a no go for me.

And who wouldn't love Goshiwons? You get to live apart from people in your own room, it's super cheap rent at 200 bucks for a month? Holy moses. Talk about savings. Rat race? At least there are jobs out there. At this point, I can't even get a job at the post office where I live. Why are things so much better everywhere except where I am now, and where I've been before? Ain't got no luck I tell ya fellas. I just ain't got no luck. God, I'll sell my soul to Mammon for 15 million US Dollars if it'll get me out of this hole that's my life. BTW, the only paradise in Asia is Thailand, just my two cents. No other country comes close.That video is pretty accurate.

- Everybody in South Korea is pretty loaded.

No. People with money in Korea have money and show it off. There are also some people without money that buy fake goods and pretend like they have money because image is important. Most people just eek out a normal life -- to assume everyone is loaded is like visiting Beverly Hills and assuming all of the US is the same. Recently a newspaper surveyed about 5000 people aged 18-25 and found 55.6% of the youth population residing in Seoul now lives in poverty, with many seeking financial support from their parents. Nearly half surveyed said they still live with their parents. South Korea's senior poverty rate is also the highest among member countries of the OECD at 40.4%. By comparison, the US is 22.8%. https://data.oecd.org/inequality/poverty-rate.htm.

- Damn near perfect English although they're very shy to speak it, and for some weird reason tend to have American accents.

You haven't met enough Koreans. Most Koreans I work with do not speak "perfect" English -- I'd say less than 5%. Korean people have varying degrees of English, from barely able to hold a conversation with most speaking just enough to get by in basic situations (ie: order food, ask for directions) if they had to. Yes there are some that speak better because they went to school abroad, or spent extra time studying, but that has not been the majority of people from my experience.

- Everybody's so polite, and essentially zero crime.

They are polite to foreigners because they used to view them as a novelty. With more tourists visiting Korea, it's less of a novelty these days, but Koreans can be really rude to each other. As far as crime goes, sure there aren't mass shootings like the US but that's only because guns are not common. If people had guns, there would be plenty of shootings given the number of hot headed Koreans. That aside, assaults, scammers, and murders do happen in Korea, but yes, overall crime is lower in Korea vs the US for various reasons.

- I've met some Koreans here in the states and they tell me life is great in South Korea, good work life balance, free education, low taxes.

Life in Korea is great but only if you have money, and that's a very small minority and that probably holds true for most other countries as well. The average salary in Korea is about $3 k USD per month. Yes, there is cheap housing, but considering if you want to buy even an old and small place in the Gangnam district it basically starts at $1 m USD, there's no way anyone making $3 k a month will ever be able to afford that in their lifetime. If you make 75-80 k USD / yr in Korea that's considered a lot by Korean standards. Moving outside of Seoul has much more affordable housing but the problem is there are fewer jobs and facilities (hospitals) for older people. Younger people do not want to live there, or can't because again, there are fewer jobs.

As far as work-life balance, it's gotten better over the years, but it's still lagging compared to western countries. Working 6 days a week to make ends meet is still quite common for some jobs. There are still some companies in Korea where you cannot leave the office until your manager has left, even if you finished up what you need to do for the day.

Education is free, but only for elementary and middle school. Pre-school is not free and neither is high school. To get into a good high school and then college you have to have exceptional grades which means parents send their kids to hagwons (after school programs / private tutoring). I know people that spend up to $20 k USD per child on education. Assuming you do go to college, tuition is significantly cheaper than the US.

Korea has a progressive tax system just like the US and it tops off at 38%. If you don't make a lot of money you won't pay a lot in taxes -- same as the US. Someone making 75-80 k USD will pay about 16-17 k USD in taxes which puts them in the low 20%. This is including national pension (social security), national health care, etc. Korea also has a 10% VAT, basically the equivalent of sales tax on most good / services. At least that's one of the lowest VATs.

- And who wouldn't love Goshiwons? You get to live apart from people in your own room, it's super cheap rent at 200 bucks for a month?

I guess it depends on your standards. Goshiwons are barely big enough to fit a twin mattress, a small desk, and a small fridge. You might not even get your own bathroom too. People live there because they don't have much of a choice. It's basically 1 or 2 steps above being homeless.

- Rat race? At least there are jobs out there. At this point, I can't even get a job at the post office where I live.

Jobs that are available are either (a) part-time, low paying jobs, like at a convenience store, (b) manual labor work like farming or construction, (c) delivery jobs which don't pay a lot and you have to work 10+ hrs / day, or (d) highly competitive jobs where having advanced degrees is the common for people applying. Even those delivery jobs are competitive and they don't offer any benefits since it's like Uber / Lyft. According to Statistics Korea, 45.4 percent of the youth population aged 15 to 29 were recorded to have been unemployed for more than a year as of this year, 44.3 percent were unemployed after graduating, and 42 percent had been laid off.

- BTW, the only paradise in Asia is Thailand, just my two cents. No other country comes close.

From a mongering standpoint, yes.

LovinAsia
12-09-23, 06:11
That video is pretty accurate.

- Everybody in South Korea is pretty loaded.

No. People with money in Korea have money and show it off. There are also some people without money that buy fake goods and pretend like they have money because image is important. Most people just eek out a normal life -- to assume everyone is loaded is like visiting Beverly Hills and assuming all of the US is the same. Recently a newspaper surveyed about 5000 people aged 18-25 and found 55.6% of the youth population residing in Seoul now lives in poverty, with many seeking financial support from their parents. Nearly half surveyed said they still live with their parents. South Korea's senior poverty rate is also the highest among member countries of the OECD at 40.4%. By comparison, the US is 22.8%. https://data.oecd.org/inequality/poverty-rate.htm.

- Damn near perfect English although they're very shy to speak it, and for some weird reason tend to have American accents.

You haven't met enough Koreans. Most Koreans I work with do not speak "perfect" English -- I'd say less than 5%. Korean people have varying degrees of English, from barely able to hold a conversation with most speaking just enough to get by in basic situations (ie: order food, ask for directions) if they had to. Yes there are some that speak better because they went to school abroad, or spent extra time studying, but that has not been the majority of people from my experience.

- Everybody's so polite, and essentially zero crime.

They are polite to foreigners because they used to view them as a novelty. With more tourists visiting Korea, it's less of a novelty these days, but Koreans can be really rude to each other. As far as crime goes, sure there aren't mass shootings like the US but that's only because guns are not common. If people had guns, there would be plenty of shootings given the number of hot headed Koreans. That aside, assaults, scammers, and murders do happen in Korea, but yes, overall crime is lower in Korea vs the US for various reasons.

- I've met some Koreans here in the states and they tell me life is great in South Korea, good work life balance, free education, low taxes.

Life in Korea is great but only if you have money, and that's a very small minority and that probably holds true for most other countries as well. The average salary in Korea is about $3 k USD per month. Yes, there is cheap housing, but considering if you want to buy even an old and small place in the Gangnam district it basically starts at $1 m USD, there's no way anyone making $3 k a month will ever be able to afford that in their lifetime. If you make 75-80 k USD / yr in Korea that's considered a lot by Korean standards. Moving outside of Seoul has much more affordable housing but the problem is there are fewer jobs and facilities (hospitals) for older people. Younger people do not want to live there, or can't because again, there are fewer jobs.

As far as work-life balance, it's gotten better over the years, but it's still lagging compared to western countries. Working 6 days a week to make ends meet is still quite common for some jobs. There are still some companies in Korea where you cannot leave the office until your manager has left, even if you finished up what you need to do for the day.

Education is free, but only for elementary and middle school. Pre-school is not free and neither is high school. To get into a good high school and then college you have to have exceptional grades which means parents send their kids to hagwons (after school programs / private tutoring). I know people that spend up to $20 k USD per child on education. Assuming you do go to college, tuition is significantly cheaper than the US.

Korea has a progressive tax system just like the US and it tops off at 38%. If you don't make a lot of money you won't pay a lot in taxes -- same as the US. Someone making 75-80 k USD will pay about 16-17 k USD in taxes which puts them in the low 20%. This is including national pension (social security), national health care, etc. Korea also has a 10% VAT, basically the equivalent of sales tax on most good / services. At least that's one of the lowest VATs.

- And who wouldn't love Goshiwons? You get to live apart from people in your own room, it's super cheap rent at 200 bucks for a month?

I guess it depends on your standards. Goshiwons are barely big enough to fit a twin mattress, a small desk, and a small fridge. You might not even get your own bathroom too. People live there because they don't have much of a choice. It's basically 1 or 2 steps above being homeless.

- Rat race? At least there are jobs out there. At this point, I can't even get a job at the post office where I live.

Jobs that are available are either (a) part-time, low paying jobs, like at a convenience store, (b) manual labor work like farming or construction, (c) delivery jobs which don't pay a lot and you have to work 10+ hrs / day, or (d) highly competitive jobs where having advanced degrees is the common for people applying. Even those delivery jobs are competitive and they don't offer any benefits since it's like Uber / Lyft. According to Statistics Korea, 45.4 percent of the youth population aged 15 to 29 were recorded to have been unemployed for more than a year as of this year, 44.3 percent were unemployed after graduating, and 42 percent had been laid off.

- BTW, the only paradise in Asia is Thailand, just my two cents. No other country comes close.

From a mongering standpoint, yes.Everything you said is on point. Don't know what the guy you were quoting was smoking hahha.

Only part ID disagree with both of you is for purely ease of sex minus cultural experience or food etc, I would rate the philippines better. At least you can communicate in english and have generally a GFE.

LovinAsia
12-09-23, 06:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE5EvC4aVeE

How true is any of this? I've been to South Korea, had a blast at some anmas and as far as I can tell, everybody in South Korea is pretty loaded. Designer clothes, fantastic cars, highly educated, and damn near perfect English although they're very shy to speak it, and for some weird reason tend to have American accents. Everybody's so polite, and essentially zero crime. I've met some Koreans here in the states and they tell me life is great in South Korea, good work life balance, free education, low taxes. I'm inclined to believe this report, CNA is Singapore's main news outlet, and if you can't trust Singapore, who can you trust? Weirdly, when I had to go do my thing for uncle Sam decades ago in South East Asia, I actually met some South Koreans on our side.

Also, if you're in Seoul, I recommend Tiffany Anma. About 200 bucks for an hour, other options available. A little cheaper if you're local. At this point, it's cheaper to bang a Korean chick in Seoul than in NYC. They cost about 300 bucks now here in the tri-state area, so that's a no go for me.

And who wouldn't love Goshiwons? You get to live apart from people in your own room, it's super cheap rent at 200 bucks for a month? Holy moses. Talk about savings. Rat race? At least there are jobs out there. At this point, I can't even get a job at the post office where I live. Why are things so much better everywhere except where I am now, and where I've been before? Ain't got no luck I tell ya fellas. I just ain't got no luck. God, I'll sell my soul to Mammon for 15 million US Dollars if it'll get me out of this hole that's my life. BTW, the only paradise in Asia is Thailand, just my two cents. No other country comes close.Are you serious? Have you even been in a goshiwon? You mean to say who WOULD want to stay in one unless you're making minimum wage.

ThingStick
12-11-23, 15:56
Hi all,

Any registered users want to take pity on me and DM deets for Honey?

I'm here for 72 hours, and as a self proclaimed head lover, have spent the last 6 hours banging my head against the wall trying to find into for this Honey place.

Signed up for an account at the opgani 15 place. Tho that didn't seem to help much. From what I understand, pick "lip" - still can't find the "Seongnam" section (translated, or charecters) - woe is me! Alas, I think I may have found it both on the "Lonely Night" site, and Opgani itself (the yellow / bee / honey backround?

I used to do all sorts of digging like this in China, with even less info, so I'm surprised I can't figure it out to a T right quick.

However. Texting them with a foreign number. SMS style? No Whatsapp / Kakao / Line or anything?

So confused. Would really love to try + report the next two days.

LMK / drop a DM. Just going to be holding the dong anyway.

Cheers.

GorditoSlayer
12-14-23, 20:21
From opgani15 I found the phone number posted for Honey Cafe. However when I go and text that number, I keep getting a message not delivered error. I'm using a sim card from KT so its a korean number.

GorditoSlayer
12-15-23, 02:41
From opgani15 I found the phone number posted for Honey Cafe. However when I go and text that number, I keep getting a message not delivered error. I'm using a sim card from KT so its a korean number.Never mind I figured out the issue, my prepaid sim plan didn't include text. I went and changed my plan to include text, and the texts are going thru, however not getting any response from Honey Cafe. Any tips on how to get them to respond?

GorditoSlayer
12-15-23, 09:26
Tried tiffany anma today. Was kind of a let down, did the 4th F. The girl was middle 30's, average frame and not attractive and would only do CBJ. I don't know if I just got unlucky with the girl.

Phloppy
12-18-23, 14:02
Never mind I figured out the issue, my prepaid sim plan didn't include text. I went and changed my plan to include text, and the texts are going thru, however not getting any response from Honey Cafe. Any tips on how to get them to respond?A lot of guys are reluctant to give out info on "their" places because they get inundated with foreigners and ultimately don't allow us any more. You just have to do what we all end up doing: calling / texting a ton of places; getting a lot of no answers, and even more turn downs. Its becoming harder since covid to get into hyugyetels and other places. I gave some info on a good gunma in Youngdeungpo a few months ago. I found that place after about an hour of searching. I'll be back in Seoul soon, but I'm not sure what I'll find this time around.

Unfortunately, Korea just isn't friendly anymore. Hooker Hill is dead. A lot of the RLD that accepted us are gone. Covid killed the walk up game, and MR ladies are pricing themselves out of many people. For many of us, its simply cheaper and better to go elsewhere.

Markt1
12-29-23, 11:39
Hey guys,

I got 6 hours layover. Is that enough time to do anything? What would you recommend?

Bonjovi3
01-02-24, 03:20
Before I completely remove myself from the scene, I have a few more posts to add to this forum. To start with, here's an article that I pulled from Naver last month.

https://n.news.naver.com/article/001/0014362807

The article specifies that a popular advertising site was busted. The name of the site is not stated in the article, but thankfully it's not one of the ones known to be popular among users of this forum. My read of the article is that the government is putting more effort into eradicating online ad brokers.

And in other news, Miari at Gireum station seems finally set for demolition and redevelopment. It's been slated for demolition for over a decade, but the end of beurocratic delays means that it is set to close down for good in 2024. I can't say I've visited recently, but pre-pandemic, it was one of the easiest places to get full service.

https://n.news.naver.com/article/003/0012260834

Enter The V
01-02-24, 12:45
Before I completely remove myself from the scene, I have a few more posts to add to this forum. To start with, here's an article that I pulled from Naver last month.

https://n.news.naver.com/article/001/0014362807

The article specifies that a popular advertising site was busted. The name of the site is not stated in the article, but thankfully it's not one of the ones known to be popular among users of this forum. My read of the article is that the government is putting more effort into eradicating online ad brokers.

And in other news, Miari at Gireum station seems finally set for demolition and redevelopment. It's been slated for demolition for over a decade, but the end of beurocratic delays means that it is set to close down for good in 2024. I can't say I've visited recently, but pre-pandemic, it was one of the easiest places to get full service.

https://n.news.naver.com/article/003/0012260834Thats sad for Miari men need FS! What are they thinking! I hope YDP stays open and operating!

MMFgBangLover
01-07-24, 05:21
Short Yeongdeungpo rld report. After 3 am was called out by 4-5 girls in A row. Most houses already closed for the night. There was a youngish girl in a white dress with a good smile and overall average sized curvy body. Then a very skinny girl a little lanky but with big natural breasts. Very kind service no problems, attitudes, or rush.

On a side note can trade pics of chicks from the hill of the past. Message if you got any.

Enter The V
01-07-24, 12:54
Short Yeongdeungpo rld report. After 3 am was called out by 4-5 girls in A row. Most houses already closed for the night. There was a youngish girl in a white dress with a good smile and overall average sized curvy body. Then a very skinny girl a little lanky but with big natural breasts. Very kind service no problems, attitudes, or rush.

On a side note can trade pics of chicks from the hill of the past. Message if you got any.Glad it is open, What was the price? Earlier more girls?

marionasco
01-07-24, 15:16
An old member is kindly asking for help. It's been some time since I've travelled.

I'm visiting Seoul February March. Fellow mongers that have some beginners guidelines for Seoul kindly help.

I'm Caucasian, can't speak a word of Korean. I've inquired a little but besides few big anma and hugetel found little or no info.

How does it work with this hugetel? Are there trustworthy escort services?

Not necessary Korean girls, cute PRC and Thai are also warmly welcome.

Thanks.

Bonjovi3
01-09-24, 06:56
With Hyugetel quality declining, I booked an appointment at a Gunma in Gangnam to see whether things were better or worse in this part of the industry. I've been to Gunma before, but it had been a long time since I had tried one and longer still since I'd had a Swedish massage. However, since I was in the mood to be pampered and the women's photos in the online ads were quite promising, I was game.

I made exactly one inquiry with one Gunma before being quickly fit into their schedule. Happy days!

I went to the location I was provided (a villa in a residential neighborhood) and knocked on the door of the room at the appointed time and. Wow! I was stunned. The Korean woman who answered the door was absolutely gorgeous. As in her photo on the ad, she was fit and skinny, but I was astounded by the fact that she also had such a beautiful smile. And with her short cut hair and sexy eyes, she was basically everything I want in a 20-something Korean woman (28 to be precise). As an aside, I'm sure she had had some plastic surgery, but it was of the type that one just doesn't notice. Her face was perfectly natural, her skins was flawless, and her body was 100% untouched. When she disrobed, she showed small perky tits with large hard nipples and a perfectly formed set of hips. In that moment, I wanted nothing more than to grab her by her wasp-like waist and bed her.

And this was the problem. This woman was so beautiful that I couldn't stop thinking of fucking her, and yet that isn't an option at Gunma. Therefore, throughout the entire experience, she was quite literally tantalizing. I know it's strange to say, but I almost wish she had been a little less perfectly my type.

As is often the case, I was the only foreigner to have ever visited this establishment, and so the woman was a bit tense. She expressed her tension through giggly laughs, but her nerves eased when she realized I was a perfectly normal customer. She was especially pleased that I could speak Korean, and happy that I appeared relatively fit and handsome. She told me that she was a bit worried that I might be, let's say, overweight or unbecoming.

Now let's go back to the beginning--to the point when I entered the room.

When I met this woman, she was wearing a robe; she invited me in, told me to shower, and when I finished I came out to find her fully naked standing next to a massage table. In the room, there was also a bed covered in towels, but as Swedish massage uses lots of slippery oil, I was led toward the table.

Swedish is a light massage meant to stimulate the groin, so most of the movements push toward the the center of the body, that is to say that her oiled hands slid from my calf up over my thigh and in toward my groin, getting closer and closer to the business end of my shaft. There was also a whole load of shoulder, back, and butt massage but the movements of these massages were also directed toward my balls and shaft, such that at the end of each gliding hand movement, she reached down between my legs. Unfortunately for me, this catch and release type of handjob, in which she stroked me for no more than 30 seconds at a time--but over and over again--made me so horny, so many times, that upon the flip I was unable to cum. It was almost like getting blue balls but without the pain. Despite the fact that I didn't cum, the massage was very pleasant and incredibly stimulating. However, in hindsight I should have asked her to jerk me off sooner in the process. She was apologetic and wished that she had managed to finish me off, but she wasn't willing to spread her legs and let me fuck her.

All in all, it was a great experience, but not one that I would like to repeat. Personally, I need to be more involved in the process to have a properly good time. I tend to get turned on by giving as much as I do by receiving, but at this Gunma I was only able to touch her tits and ass. There was zero pussy play and no kissing. Had I been able to be more involved I would have loved the experience, but alas Gunma don't offer the services that I know I need. For the price 160,000 won (120,000 for 60 minutes + at 30,000 for this women and an extra 10,000 for Swedish) I could have gotten 30 minutes of bareback anal from a pretty Thai woman in the same neighborhood.

That being said, the Korean woman who serviced me at the Gunma was absolutely gorgeous. She was more attractive than 95% of the Thai women I've met in Korea. Because of how insanely hot she was, I have an urge to make a return visit to seek extras (because I would love to actually fuck her), but I know that such an action would be a losing proposition. Some Gunma do offer blowjobs, but this one offers handjobs only.

Garthie1
01-13-24, 03:45
All in all, it was a great experience, but not one that I would like to repeat.I had the same experience (see my post in 'Other Areas') except the girl gave me a BBBJ, which was nice, and charged me 150,000 KRW for the whole deal.

It was a nice experience and change of pace. I'll give it another shot since the girl was hot and had a good personality, but not expecting much more on the second try.

Garthie1
01-13-24, 03:51
I dropped by the Hill and four shops were open- Evergreen, Texas, Tiffany, and Nymph. I went straight to Evergreen to see Bean. She still has the derriere, but also lost quite a bit of weight and looked fantastic. Overall it was a good experience and I'll definitely dial her up again.

On a side note, I don't know who keeps saying that 'Apple' or any of those clubs in that corner are open. They might be open, but they're all transgender. Apple even says 'Korean membership only' and 'Transgender', so that's that.

MMFgBangLover
01-13-24, 04:42
I dropped by the Hill and four shops were open- Evergreen, Texas, Tiffany, and Nymph. I went straight to Evergreen to see Bean. She still has the derriere, but also lost quite a bit of weight and looked fantastic. Overall it was a good experience and I'll definitely dial her up again.

On a side note, I don't know who keeps saying that 'Apple' or any of those clubs in that corner are open. They might be open, but they're all transgender. Apple even says 'Korean membership only' and 'Transgender', so that's that.I said there was a girl named Jane there. She was a newbie and unprofessional in that she worked only 5 or 6 Fridays and a Sunday in the summer and fall then stopped after.

She was definitely a woman, got her period all on me, but she hasn't came back and the bars there are all Trans. She even said straight out her mouth that the person at Nymph is transgender.

It's all about timing, that post was months back. She's hot but gets crazy drunk so my guess is that only the owner of that bar would let her work in there alone whenever she wanted. Sometimes one of the women from Tiffany, the very skinny one, would stop by.

Garthie1
01-14-24, 11:12
I dropped by the Hill and four shops were open- Evergreen, Texas, Tiffany, and Nymph. Correction. It was Pandora with Nana working, not Nymph. She's also fun with a nice body and big tits, nice face, but has added a little pudge lately.

Colin3124
01-15-24, 10:44
This review is for the massage place that has been mentioned on this forum over the past few years. It is easy to find via Google Maps if you use the Korean. The sign is only in Korean but it is very conspicuous.

I used the HiThai app (54616;51060;53440;51060 to make an appointment, and was able to book a 90 minute aroma massage for just ₩40,000. Based on previous reviews, I didn't know what to expect in terms of service or provider, so I figured it was worth the gamble.

I went at 4:30 pm when it was very quiet. I got the sense that the employee at the desk didn't speak much Korean. I was led to the room and given the paper-like underwear others have mentioned. I didn't put them on at first but the girl told me to. I found out it's just so you don't get massage oil / gel on your clothes.

The girl was in her 20's, but not my type. I'm a skinny caucasian, mid-30's, and prefer more slender girls. She was Thai and basically looked like the chubbier types you see on soi 6.

I knew from the start I wasn't going to be interested in the extra offerings. I turned out to be ok though, because she had clearly had at least some informal massage training. It was on par with what you can expect from mid-priced legit massage places in Bangkok.

She spoke little Korean or English. After being flipped over and having her generate blood flow to a certain area, she offered a hand job twice (using hand gestures), but I declined. Based on other reports, I'm guessing the other options were available as well. She seemed disappointed but was professional.

When the time was up she promptly finished with the typical shoulder rub and tap that a lot of legit Thai places close with, and then exited. I thought I should at least give her a tip for the good massage, but the front desk didn't have any change for a ₩50,000 bill. She wasn't anywhere in site, so it wasn't awkward in that regard.

I will likely go back, trying another day and time. At the very least I can get a good massage. And I'll hope that I get the chance encounter with a spinner whose contact details I can get and arrange regularly. With this place it seems like the best approach is to go in without expectations but open to possibilities.

Enter The V
01-15-24, 13:44
I dropped by the Hill and four shops were open- Evergreen, Texas, Tiffany, and Nymph. I went straight to Evergreen to see Bean. She still has the derriere, but also lost quite a bit of weight and looked fantastic. Overall it was a good experience and I'll definitely dial her up again.

On a side note, I don't know who keeps saying that 'Apple' or any of those clubs in that corner are open. They might be open, but they're all transgender. Apple even says 'Korean membership only' and 'Transgender', so that's that.So is Miari Texas open right now?

Jjd216
01-21-24, 07:05
Hi why'all. On my way to Dinuts for the first time. Will post a report later today.

Bonjovi3
01-25-24, 06:11
https://n.news.naver.com/article/028/0002674281

This article explains the entire business model.

Garthie1
01-27-24, 23:32
https://n.news.naver.com/article/028/0002674281

This article explains the entire business model.Now I know how to not sound like a foreigner on the first text.

AirlineCrew
01-28-24, 08:19
This review is for the massage place that has been mentioned on this forum over the past few years. It is easy to find via Google Maps if you use the Korean. The sign is only in Korean but it is very conspicuous.

I used the HiThai app (54616;51060;53440;51060 to make an appointment, and was able to book a 90 minute aroma massage for just ₩40,000. Based on previous reviews, I didn't know what to expect in terms of service or provider, so I figured it was worth the gamble.

I went at 4:30 pm when it was very quiet. I got the sense that the employee at the desk didn't speak much Korean. I was led to the room and given the paper-like underwear others have mentioned. I didn't put them on at first but the girl told me to. I found out it's just so you don't get massage oil / gel on your clothes.

The girl was in her 20's, but not my type. I'm a skinny caucasian, mid-30's, and prefer more slender girls. She was Thai and basically looked like the chubbier types you see on soi 6.

I knew from the start I wasn't going to be interested in the extra offerings. I turned out to be ok though, because she had clearly had at least some informal massage training. It was on par with what you can expect from mid-priced legit massage places in Bangkok.

She spoke little Korean or English. After being flipped over and having her generate blood flow to a certain area, she offered a hand job twice (using hand gestures), but I declined. Based on other reports, I'm guessing the other options were available as well. She seemed disappointed but was professional.

When the time was up she promptly finished with the typical shoulder rub and tap that a lot of legit Thai places close with, and then exited. I thought I should at least give her a tip for the good massage, but the front desk didn't have any change for a ₩50,000 bill. She wasn't anywhere in site, so it wasn't awkward in that regard.

I will likely go back, trying another day and time. At the very least I can get a good massage. And I'll hope that I get the chance encounter with a spinner whose contact details I can get and arrange regularly. With this place it seems like the best approach is to go in without expectations but open to possibilities.Thanks for your report! What is that app though? Hithai, I've also seen it spelled Haithai. I can't seem to be able to find it on the play store. Is it apple only? Or only available in Korea?

MMFgBangLover
01-29-24, 05:02
Thanks for your report! What is that app though? Hithai, I've also seen it spelled Haithai. I can't seem to be able to find it on the play store. Is it apple only? Or only available in Korea?It's in the play store. Search it using Korean letters.

Garthie1
02-03-24, 06:02
Stopped by the Hill this morning to see if Bean was working, but no such luck. There were three bars open in the early morning- Tiffany, One between the two Evergreens on the Hill proper, and one around the corner by the Trans bars.

The one on the Hill proper had a skinny chain smoking older woman with dingy teeth, so that was a pass even at 60,000 won. The very top of the Hill was locked the couple of times I tried, so I moved on. I was getting ready to leave, so I tried Tiffany's again, expecting Candy, Suzy, or one of those girls. They're always fun to chat with, but instead of them being there, it was another girl named Su who worked at VIP a couple of years back.

Su has straight cut bangs with long hair, a pretty face, nice personality, and a really nice curvy body. I've had good times with her before and was surprised to see her there again. Overall, it was a pleasant experience and one that I would recommend, but for me going to the Hill I have my preferences and if that's not available, it's sort of a letdown.

Dqbsl
02-03-24, 10:02
I will be visiting seoul in the beginning of April and so I am trying to figure out how things work out there.

I participate in the US forums, and am looking for some help / advice for my trip to seoul.

I am a Korean American, born in the US. Korean is pretty bad but can speak simple Korean.

I'd like to experience a hot Korean girl in their 20's, and not sure which avenue to pursue. I can see that there are anmas, officetels, and hyugetels. Honestly I don't understand the differences between these. I have read that things have primarily been shifted online and most of the ads going to online portals.

Any help / advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Abuasian1
02-04-24, 08:29
https://n.news.naver.com/article/028/0002674281

This article explains the entire business model.I've always wondered if Kissbangs are legal or illegal in Korea? I'm really hesitant to use my phone for these businesses but if kissbangs aren't illegal, then I might think about it.

Nother Monger
02-06-24, 00:07
I've always wondered if Kissbangs are legal or illegal in Korea? I'm really hesitant to use my phone for these businesses but if kissbangs aren't illegal, then I might think about it.From what a Korean associate told me, they are technically illegal. They told me that Korea passed a law a few years ago that basically made "quasi" sex related businesses illegal even if it wasn't prostitution in the traditional sense. However, I'm not a lawyer or versed well in Korean law so I cannot say for certain.


I will be visiting seoul in the beginning of April and so I am trying to figure out how things work out there.

I participate in the US forums, and am looking for some help / advice for my trip to seoul.

I am a Korean American, born in the US. Korean is pretty bad but can speak simple Korean.

I'd like to experience a hot Korean girl in their 20's, and not sure which avenue to pursue. I can see that there are anmas, officetels, and hyugetels. Honestly I don't understand the differences between these. I have read that things have primarily been shifted online and most of the ads going to online portals.

Any help / advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.Given the tighter environment, you'll probably have a hard time getting into an officetel since they screen phone numbers. Second, your limited Korean may be a problem since most operators speak Korean, and at some point, you will need to talk to them. If you read the forum, there are posts describing the difference between anmas vs officetels vs hyugetels in more detail. In short though, anma is technically not illegal because you are getting a massage. Women working at an anma are generally older (think 30's and up). Officetel and Hyugetels are for sex. The quality of women working Hyugetels is generally lower than officetels and they might not be Korean. In my experience, the overall quality of officetel women has gone down over the years. While there still are some pretty women working there, I would say that "hot" women is a lot harder to find working there.

Garthie1
02-07-24, 00:21
Does anyone know what the latest opstar jump is? I tried opgani15.com, but it's been down for the last week or so.

Bonjovi3
02-07-24, 23:18
Does anyone know what the latest opstar jump is? I tried opgani15.com, but it's been down for the last week or so.It's 16 now.

Garthie1
02-09-24, 01:10
It's 16 now.Got it. Thanks. It was my US based VPN blocking it. Japan works, though.

BombayRkst
02-10-24, 05:25
Hello,

Am fascinated by your review and would love to try this out when I visit Seoul in March. Could you please let me know the name of this place or how I can find it?

Thanks.

BR.


With Hyugetel quality declining, I booked an appointment at a Gunma in Gangnam to see whether things were better or worse in this part of the industry. I've been to Gunma before, but it had been a long time since I had tried one and longer still since I'd had a Swedish massage. However, since I was in the mood to be pampered and the women's photos in the online ads were quite promising, I was game.

I made exactly one inquiry with one Gunma before being quickly fit into their schedule. Happy days!

I went to the location I was provided (a villa in a residential neighborhood) and knocked on the door of the room at the appointed time and. Wow! I was stunned. The Korean woman who answered the door was absolutely gorgeous. As in her photo on the ad, she was fit and skinny, but I was astounded by the fact that she also had such a beautiful smile. And with her short cut hair and sexy eyes, she was basically everything I want in a 20-something Korean woman (28 to be precise). As an aside, I'm sure she had had some plastic surgery, but it was of the type that one just doesn't notice. Her face was perfectly natural, her skins was flawless, and her body was 100% untouched. When she disrobed, she showed small perky tits with large hard nipples and a perfectly formed set of hips. In that moment, I wanted nothing more than to grab her by her wasp-like waist and bed her.

And this was the problem. This woman was so beautiful that I couldn't stop thinking of fucking her, and yet that isn't an option at Gunma. Therefore, throughout the entire experience, she was quite literally tantalizing. I know it's strange to say, but I almost wish she had been a little less perfectly my type.

As is often the case, I was the only foreigner to have ever visited this establishment, and so the woman was a bit tense. She expressed her tension through giggly laughs, but her nerves eased when she realized I was a perfectly normal customer. She was especially pleased that I could speak Korean, and happy that I appeared relatively fit and handsome. She told me that she was a bit worried that I might be, let's say, overweight or unbecoming.

Now let's go back to the beginning--to the point when I entered the room.

When I met this woman, she was wearing a robe; she invited me in, told me to shower, and when I finished I came out to find her fully naked standing next to a massage table. In the room, there was also a bed covered in towels, but as Swedish massage uses lots of slippery oil, I was led toward the table.

Swedish is a light massage meant to stimulate the groin, so most of the movements push toward the the center of the body, that is to say that her oiled hands slid from my calf up over my thigh and in toward my groin, getting closer and closer to the business end of my shaft. There was also a whole load of shoulder, back, and butt massage but the movements of these massages were also directed toward my balls and shaft, such that at the end of each gliding hand movement, she reached down between my legs. Unfortunately for me, this catch and release type of handjob, in which she stroked me for no more than 30 seconds at a time--but over and over again--made me so horny, so many times, that upon the flip I was unable to cum. It was almost like getting blue balls but without the pain. Despite the fact that I didn't cum, the massage was very pleasant and incredibly stimulating. However, in hindsight I should have asked her to jerk me off sooner in the process. She was apologetic and wished that she had managed to finish me off, but she wasn't willing to spread her legs and let me fuck her.

All in all, it was a great experience, but not one that I would like to repeat. Personally, I need to be more involved in the process to have a properly good time. I tend to get turned on by giving as much as I do by receiving, but at this Gunma I was only able to touch her tits and ass. There was zero pussy play and no kissing. Had I been able to be more involved I would have loved the experience, but alas Gunma don't offer the services that I know I need. For the price 160,000 won (120,000 for 60 minutes + at 30,000 for this women and an extra 10,000 for Swedish) I could have gotten 30 minutes of bareback anal from a pretty Thai woman in the same neighborhood.

That being said, the Korean woman who serviced me at the Gunma was absolutely gorgeous. She was more attractive than 95% of the Thai women I've met in Korea. Because of how insanely hot she was, I have an urge to make a return visit to seek extras (because I would love to actually fuck her), but I know that such an action would be a losing proposition. Some Gunma do offer blowjobs, but this one offers handjobs only.

Jolem
02-10-24, 05:40
I'd like to experience a hot Korean girl in their 20's, and not sure which avenue to pursue.IMO easiest would include going to an anma, Donut or Tiffany or Dao. Korean American = no problems getting in. Lineups may be more 30's or late 20's than early 20's but service is good, with some YMMV, but boy is it easy. Definitely worth trying. Other easy options may include reviewed, non-agency escorts on MR: a more expensive option but no language barrier, no Korean phone needed.

Koharski
02-10-24, 17:11
IMO easiest would include going to an anma, Donut or Tiffany or Dao. Korean American = no problems getting in. Lineups may be more 30's or late 20's than early 20's but service is good, with some YMMV, but boy is it easy. Definitely worth trying. Other easy options may include reviewed, non-agency escorts on MR: a more expensive option but no language barrier, no Korean phone needed.There's a lot of trans on MR in the women's section, not just the actual trans section. If you book on there, before you knock on an apartment door, know where the doorway to the stairway is before you knock in case the person has a deep voice and masculine mannerisms so you can bolt without having to wait on the elevator.

Dqbsl
02-11-24, 09:40
IMO easiest would include going to an anma, Donut or Tiffany or Dao. Korean American = no problems getting in. Lineups may be more 30's or late 20's than early 20's but service is good, with some YMMV, but boy is it easy. Definitely worth trying. Other easy options may include reviewed, non-agency escorts on MR: a more expensive option but no language barrier, no Korean phone needed.Thank you for the info. Where can I find Dao and donut? I found Tiffany's website through the forum, but can't find the others.

Also, what is MR?

Appreciate the help.

RainMania
02-21-24, 04:22
Good day monger bros.

It's been a while since I last posted here, and I keep delaying my eventual return / visit to the peninsula where I hope some of my old spots are still accessible. Reading through the pages it seems Korea is even harder than it was pre-covid, and from what I've seen in Pattaya in the past years it looks like the Korean scene is becoming more challenging / expensive for Korean men as well. Pattaya is now littered with k-dudes and they're now among the biggest (if not the biggest) demographics in Soi 6 and walking street, and we know where this will eventually lead (see angeles city, Philippines).

I just wanted to pop in and give some friendly advice to fellow hobbyists to come over and enjoy Pattaya before it too becomes another victim wasteland of the k-wave.

It's good to see some familiar names from yesteryear still posting. Keep up the good work fellas!

Phloppy
02-24-24, 03:45
Nice to see you again, Rain. I would love to join you in Pattay, but its just not in the cards right now. Hopefully I can make it happen soon enough.

You are right though about Korea. Its difficult to get a good cheap fuck. Quite a shame really. But we keep trying to chase the dream and the tail.

I hope all is well with you.

FunGames1970
03-03-24, 23:40
Thought I would add a FR since there doesn't seem to be much chatter on here about Seoul. I am in Seoul for three nights on a business trip and read through the forum for some tips on finding action.

My first visit was Castle Massage near Seollung station. They have a website that is not too hard to find. I called the number but the guy who answered spoke very little English. He told me to have the taxi driver call and he would give the location. There is not an address on the website, you have to call. I got an angry asshole for a taxi driver so I just said eff it and went to Seollung station, then texted with Castle and walked the rest of the way. Went to a room with two mattresses on the floor and they told me to wait, after collecting 280 K Won. After about 10 minutes they came and got me and took me to a room on another floor. My provider was Angela and she was a solid 7/10. Table shower in the room (they call it a waterbed), then action on the regular bed. Cat bath, good table shower, BBBJ, Mish, CG, DS. It was a good experience, I may repeat but there's other things to try here.

Second night and I wanted to try a kissbang because I have never been to one. Found Kiss Time near Sillum station above Paik's Coffee. It was 90 K Won for 60 minutes, then you brush your teeth and go to a room. The room was small with a bed / couch that takes up half the room. Seu-on was my provider (unsure on spelling) and she was a tiny thing. I like small women and small tits and she definitely fit the bill. She told me the menu which was 60/100/170 for HJ / BJ / FS. I chose FS but she was nervous that I might be too large so I showed her my unit. She was still nervous but agreed to FS after some chat on papago. We stripped and then made out for a few minutes on the bed, then DATY, BBBJ, and Mish. She wanted me to go slow but after a minute or two she let me pund it in mish. I didn't try rotations, didn't think she had it in her to get pounded DS. Good experience, WIR probably not because the anma is about the same price and get table shower.

Going to try another anma tonight then back to USA.

Enter The V
03-04-24, 13:11
Thought I would add a FR since there doesn't seem to be much chatter on here about Seoul. I am in Seoul for three nights on a business trip and read through the forum for some tips on finding action.

My first visit was Castle Massage near Seollung station. They have a website that is not too hard to find. I called the number but the guy who answered spoke very little English. He told me to have the taxi driver call and he would give the location. There is not an address on the website, you have to call. I got an angry asshole for a taxi driver so I just said eff it and went to Seollung station, then texted with Castle and walked the rest of the way. Went to a room with two mattresses on the floor and they told me to wait, after collecting 280 K Won. After about 10 minutes they came and got me and took me to a room on another floor. My provider was Angela and she was a solid 7/10. Table shower in the room (they call it a waterbed), then action on the regular bed. Cat bath, good table shower, BBBJ, Mish, CG, DS. It was a good experience, I may repeat but there's other things to try here.

Second night and I wanted to try a kissbang because I have never been to one. Found Kiss Time near Sillum station above Paik's Coffee. It was 90 K Won for 60 minutes, then you brush your teeth and go to a room. The room was small with a bed / couch that takes up half the room. Seu-on was my provider (unsure on spelling) and she was a tiny thing. I like small women and small tits and she definitely fit the bill. She told me the menu which was 60/100/170 for HJ / BJ / FS..Why don't you try the YDP RLD?

Darnay
03-08-24, 02:02
Stopped by the Hill this morning to see if Bean was working, but no such luck. There were three bars open in the early morning- Tiffany, One between the two Evergreens on the Hill proper, and one around the corner by the Trans bars.

The one on the Hill proper had a skinny chain smoking older woman with dingy teeth, so that was a pass even at 60,000 won. The very top of the Hill was locked the couple of times I tried, so I moved on. I was getting ready to leave, so I tried Tiffany's again, expecting Candy, Suzy, or one of those girls. They're always fun to chat with, but instead of them being there, it was another girl named Su who worked at VIP a couple of years back.

Su has straight cut bangs with long hair, a pretty face, nice personality, and a really nice curvy body. I've had good times with her before and was surprised to see her there again. Overall, it was a pleasant experience and one that I would recommend, but for me going to the Hill I have my preferences and if that's not available, it's sort of a letdown.I think I sadly know the answer, but is Kay not working on the Hill anymore? Has anyone seen her lately or can anyone share some information?

Kala123
03-09-24, 18:16
Second night and I wanted to try a kissbang because I have never been to one. Found Kiss Time near Sillum station above Paik's Coffee. It was 90 K Won for 60 minutes, then you brush your teeth and go to a room. The room was small with a bed / couch that takes up half the room. Seu-on was my provider (unsure on spelling) and she was a tiny thing. I like small women and small tits and she definitely fit the bill. She told me the menu which was 60/100/170 for HJ / BJ / FS. I chose FS but she was nervous that I might be too large so I showed her my unit. She was still nervous but agreed to FS after some chat on papago. We stripped and then made out for a few minutes on the bed, then DATY, BBBJ, and Mish. She wanted me to go slow but after a minute or two she let me pund it in mish. I didn't try rotations, didn't think she had it in her to get pounded DS. Good experience, WIR probably not because the anma is about the same price and get table shower.

Going to try another anma tonight then back to USA.Thanks for sharing. How hot was the girl in the kissbang? As in how would you rate her x /10. Want to try a kissbang as I prefer a younger college type girl but a friend had a bad experience and the girl was a 2/10.

Garthie1
03-13-24, 05:07
I think I sadly know the answer, but is Kay not working on the Hill anymore? Has anyone seen her lately or can anyone share some information?I can't confirm, but I haven't seen her in several years so I'd have to say no.

It's a shame, she was fun and had an Asia Carrera look with Asia Carrera size tits- except they were all natural.

Attila The Hun
03-14-24, 01:28
Can anyone recommend a local punter forum?

Newton York
03-14-24, 07:06
I will be visiting seoul in the beginning of April and so I am trying to figure out how things work out there.

I participate in the US forums, and am looking for some help / advice for my trip to seoul.

I am a Korean American, born in the US. Korean is pretty bad but can speak simple Korean.

I'd like to experience a hot Korean girl in their 20's, and not sure which avenue to pursue. I can see that there are anmas, officetels, and hyugetels. Honestly I don't understand the differences between these. I have read that things have primarily been shifted online and most of the ads going to online portals.

Any help / advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.I've had many of them here in the northeast in my hobbying career, so much so that now my fantasy is to actually fuck a Korean chick in Korea. As a matter of back, my first creampie was with a Korean working here in states. I will always remember her. Real sweet thing, pretty and probably the best prostitute I've ever fucked in my life. Man, I was young back then, didn't know how good I had it with them chicks. The whole massage parlor is still around, but it's way way pricier now. Much better deal if you fuck them in Korea itself.

BravoFox
03-17-24, 18:08
Love them Kgirls! Looking to travel to Asian next and Korea is on my list. How would you go about it if it was your first visit again? Would you pick Korea? I was looking at Japan but I am wanting more than a L1 and L2 service for foreigners. In Japan I hear you can get it but a little more difficult. Thailand and Philippians seem over run and over commercialized. Service is declining as well from what I read. I was looking into Jakarta as well.


I've had many of them here in the northeast in my hobbying career, so much so that now my fantasy is to actually fuck a Korean chick in Korea. As a matter of back, my first creampie was with a Korean working here in states. I will always remember her. Real sweet thing, pretty and probably the best prostitute I've ever fucked in my life. Man, I was young back then, didn't know how good I had it with them chicks. The whole massage parlor is still around, but it's way way pricier now. Much better deal if you fuck them in Korea itself.

KapnAmerica
03-21-24, 05:17
This is my first post on this forum. I have found this site more helpful that any other in guiding me on my adventures abroad.

I set off for a nine-day trip to Asia intending take in the sights and culture of that wonderful continent and, of course, also find my way into the arms of a variety of exotic women. First stop was Seoul, Korea. It was my first time there, and I had absolutely zero connections or knowlege of the language or culture. However, having been to Japan before I found it fairly easy to adjust to the environment. Not many Koreans are fluent in English, but most know enough to provide basic assistance to a clueless foreigner like me. Korea was nowhere near as challenging as I found Japan to be.

I stayed at the Fairfield by Marriot in Yeongdeungpo. Some light research on YouTube had pointed me to a street known as "Capital Alley" - identified on Google Maps as "Yeongjung-ro 4-gil" and located adjacent to Seoul's Times Square. It appeared from the videos to be a place where ladies advertised themselves in glass windows for passing clients, apparently one of the last surviving bastions of brick-and-mortar service providers following the outlawing of prostitution 20 years ago. And that's exactly what I was looking for on the first night of my trip - "point and shoot" sex with an exotic Korean beauty, hopefully at an affordable price.

I took a quick shower, stopped by a restaurant for a bite to eat, and then headed over to the scandalous alley at around 8 pm It was a cold but clear Tuesday night. Sure enough, there they were. Decently attractive Korean women behind glass windows, most of them doing their hair and makeup. I would estimate that there were a dozen to fifteen separate windows in the alley that were "open for business" and possibly more that were closed or had stepped out for dinner. My loins tingled at the sexual bounty that lay before my eyes. Surely the hardest part would be choosing the right one and getting a good price.

I sauntered confidently up to the first window, and using my translator, asked the price for 2 hours of her time. The answer was a flat "no. " No, as in, she straight up does not accept foreigners like me. I was a little taken aback, so I moved on to another lady a couple of windows down. Same answer. Each window brought more rejection. Many did not even open the door to speak with me. They just shook their head at me at disgust or shooed me away.

Honestly, I was a little miffed at this rough treatment. I had assumed that these ladies would, at best, be falling over themselves to entice a tall exotic foreigner into their beds, or at worst, be quoting a steep price to make sure that the hassle of my communication difficulties and cultural differences were worth their while. But outright rejection over and over left a bitter taste. I told myself it wasn't me, it was simply the fact that I was a foreigner. But a part of me wondered if it was me, if I had lost my touch. Couldn't they see how damn charming I was and make an exception for me? Or was I not charming at all?

I figured that the ladies might soften their stance as the night wore on and the available supply of clients began to dwindle. And perhaps some different, hopefully kinder, women worked the late night shift. So I went back to the hotel and took a nap. Returned around 2:30 am There were fewer windows open, but many of the same women and mostly the same result. I also have to add that these women certainly were not "high end" beauties. But I was turned away by a few that I probably wouldn't sleep with for free.

I finally found one with middling looks who quoted me 200 k won ($150) for 20 minutes. I told her I needed at least an hour, but she wouldn't budge. For 20 minutes, that price was exorbitant and I only had about 180 k on me. I suggested 100 k for 20 minutes. She politely declined. Even though she was nowhere close to my usual standard, I wanted to give this woman business just for being so cordial and not giving me the finger like the rest. But alas, I could not be faithful to my mongering principles and pay that type of price for what was almost certain to be a brief and unsatisfying experience. So I walked away.

Back at the hotel, I contacted a few escort services by WhatsApp. They all quoted me 300 k to 500 k ($225-375) or more for 45 minutes. I could probably have a fresh-off-the-boat Korean girl back in the USA For close to that amount or less. The price was always non-negotiable or so high I didn't even want to make an offer.

Bottom line, I found Korea to be a wasteland for mongering opportunities for foreigners with no Korean connections and no experience with Korean language, culture, or social networking platforms. Based on my one night experience, I can see why they call the residence of the Korean president the Blue House. Because that's the color most mongers' balls will be when they leave that country. I couldn't get to Thailand soon enough.

Garthie1
03-22-24, 09:57
Bottom line, I found Korea to be a wasteland for mongering opportunities for foreigners with no Korean connections and no experience with Korean language, culture, or social networking platforms. Based on my one night experience, I can see why they call the residence of the Korean president the Blue House. Because that's the color most mongers' balls will be when they leave that country. I couldn't get to Thailand soon enough.No surprise. A quick scan of the forum will tell you that.

Yeongdungpo is not friendly. Others can be hit or miss- I've had a few hot ones quote KRW 200,000 for a short time and average sex. The view is nice though.

It's not so bad if you have experience, but for foreigners if you want a romp with a hot K girl, you need to do it the states.

Enter The V
03-22-24, 13:25
This is my first post on this forum. I have found this site more helpful that any other in guiding me on my adventures abroad.

I set off for a nine-day trip to Asia intending take in the sights and culture of that wonderful continent and, of course, also find my way into the arms of a variety of exotic women. First stop was Seoul, Korea. It was my first time there, and I had absolutely zero connections or knowlege of the language or culture. However, having been to Japan before I found it fairly easy to adjust to the environment. Not many Koreans are fluent in English, but most know enough to provide basic assistance to a clueless foreigner like me. Korea was nowhere near as challenging as I found Japan to be.

I stayed at the Fairfield by Marriot in Yeongdeungpo. Some light research on YouTube had pointed me to a street known as "Capital Alley" - identified on Google Maps as "Yeongjung-ro 4-gil" and located adjacent to Seoul's Times Square. It appeared from the videos to be a place where ladies advertised themselves in glass windows for passing clients, apparently one of the last surviving bastions of brick-and-mortar service providers following the outlawing of prostitution 20 years ago. And that's exactly what I was looking for on the first night of my trip - "point and shoot" sex with an exotic Korean beauty, hopefully at an affordable price.

I took a quick shower, stopped by a restaurant for a bite to eat, and then headed over to the scandalous alley at around 8 pm It was a cold but clear Tuesday night. Sure enough, there they were. Decently attractive Korean women behind glass windows, most of them doing their hair and makeup. I would estimate that there were a dozen to fifteen separate windows in the alley that were "open for business" and possibly more that were closed or had stepped out for dinner. My loins tingled at the sexual bounty that lay before my eyes. Surely the hardest part would be choosing the right one and getting a good price.

I sauntered confidently up to the first window, and using my translator, asked the price for 2 hours of her time. The answer was a flat "no. " No, as in, she straight up does not accept foreigners like me. I was a little taken aback, so I moved on to another lady a couple of windows down. Same answer. Each window brought more rejection. Many did not even open the door to speak with me. They just shook their head at me at disgust or shooed me away.

Honestly, I was a little miffed at this rough treatment. I had assumed that these ladies would, at best, be falling over themselves to entice a tall exotic foreigner into their beds, or at worst, be quoting a steep price to make sure that the hassle of my communication difficulties and cultural differences were worth their while. But outright rejection over and over left a bitter taste. I told myself it wasn't me, it was simply the fact that I was a foreigner. But a part of me wondered if it was me, if I had lost my touch. Couldn't they see how damn charming I was and make an exception for me? Or was I not charming at all?

I figured that the ladies might soften their stance as the night wore on and the available supply of clients began to dwindle. And perhaps some different, hopefully kinder, women worked the late night shift. So I went back to the hotel and took a nap. Returned around 2:30 am There were fewer windows open, but many of the same women and mostly the same result. I also have to add that these women certainly were not "high end" beauties. But I was turned away by a few that I probably wouldn't sleep with for free.

I finally found one with middling looks who quoted me 200 k won ($150) for 20 minutes. I told her I needed at least an hour, but she wouldn't budge. For 20 minutes, that price was exorbitant and I only had about 180 k on me. I suggested 100 k for 20 minutes. She politely declined. Even though she was nowhere close to my usual standard, I wanted to give this woman business just for being so cordial and not giving me the finger like the rest. But alas, I could not be faithful to my mongering principles and pay that type of price for what was almost certain to be a brief and unsatisfying experience. So I walked away.

Back at the hotel, I contacted a few escort services by WhatsApp. They all quoted me 300 k to 500 k ($225-375) or more for 45 minutes. I could probably have a fresh-off-the-boat Korean girl back in the USA For close to that amount or less. The price was always non-negotiable or so high I didn't even want to make an offer.

Bottom line, I found Korea to be a wasteland for mongering opportunities for foreigners with no Korean connections and no experience with Korean language, culture, or social networking platforms. Based on my one night experience, I can see why they call the residence of the Korean president the Blue House. Because that's the color most mongers' balls will be when they leave that country. I couldn't get to Thailand soon enough.Good report may I ask what's your ethnicity? I've learned most of these girls don't like Dark skin guys like Indian and so on. YDP RLD will be my first stop in Seoul I've seen some videos and most of the girls are hot can't wait to fuck the hottest one I see, These girls don't do more than a quick fuck so asking for more than 30 minutes is not ideal. I have experience from growing up Korea Town LA.

NRandom940
03-22-24, 16:41
if you want a romp with a hot K girl, you need to do it the states.Dubai is another option.

Newton York
03-23-24, 02:56
Love them Kgirls! Looking to travel to Asian next and Korea is on my list. How would you go about it if it was your first visit again? Would you pick Korea? I was looking at Japan but I am wanting more than a L1 and L2 service for foreigners. In Japan I hear you can get it but a little more difficult. Thailand and Philippians seem over run and over commercialized. Service is declining as well from what I read. I was looking into Jakarta as well.I'm very proud to say that in my time I've hobbied the world over, I've fucked chicks from Prague to Nuremberg, Frankfurt to London, New York to Montreal, Vegas, Singapore, Bangkok, Amsterdam and even freaking Auckland NZ. In my humble estimation, the best chicks I ever got was in Prague and Singapore, but that's more about the chicks and the establishments I found them in and how management ran them, more than the city itself. But in terms of the best city to hobby in? Bangkok bar none.

While you can't go wrong with Korean chicks, whether you bang them in Seoul, Busan or even Toronto or NYC, in Seoul itself the best place to start are probably the anmas. Always try some kissbangs too. Unique experience though a bit hit or miss. For anmas, try Tiffany, Donuts or Fish. The thing with Korean chicks, and if you've had them here in north america, they have a pretty set routine, and if they're into it, they can be really good, but the routine in and of itself is already pretty good. The really good ones will rim, but that depends on your luck.

In Tokyo, the obvious place is Tokyo Hentai Club, safest bet, my go to when I'm town, but plenty of other joints to try.

If I got to do it all over again, my first trip to Asia would definitely not be the country I was stuck in. Trust me dude, it was decades ago, and let's just say I had no choice, and I've suffered PTSD from it ever since. All thanks to uncle sam. If I got to live my life all over again, under far better circumstances, I'd do Thailand. Absolutely Thailand.

Years, decades of hobbying, and I discovered the joys and magic of Thailand too late. Don't worry friend, despite what people say, Thailand isn't too commercialized or over exposed that you can't find a good time. If anything, it's precisely because of all that, is why you can find the good stuff among all the nonsense aimed at clueless sex tourists. Take it from this experienced sex tourist, the first time I went to Bangkok, I approached it like I did with all my sex trips and by that logic, I failed, and it wasn't a good of a trip as it could have been, almost made me give up on Thailand. But I persevered. I said to myself, knowing this city, it can't be the place itself, it was me. I did Thailand wrong. I was doing it all wrong. Because with Bangkok, all the rules for p4 p that works elsewhere in the world don't apply to Bangkok. So I did plenty of research, like a treasure hunter in a movie, I scoured internet forums from all over the weird, Japanese forums, Singaporean forums, you name it, and I armed myself with knowledge.

And lo and behold, my next trip to Bangkok changed my life. It changed me. For the best because now I felt that I had found the holy grail of mongering destinations, but for the worst because now I had become obsessed with going back there again. You can read all my reviews on the 3 weeks I spent in Bangkok 2 summers ago, and there you'll find the myriad choices you'll have when it comes to hobbying in Thailand. Nowhere in the world are there this many options, price ranges, availability, etc. And the country is safe, affordable, the food is great. Depending on what you look like, you might even be treated with reverence. I never felt so respected, and given so much leeway before. Where I'm from and where I am now, I'm essentially human garbage, but in Bangkok, I felt like a king.

Jakarta is ok, but like Manila, and kuala lumpur, dangerous. Bangkok is incredibly safe, next to Singapore it's easily the second safest big city in all of South East Asia.

Also in Seoul, you'd do well to know a few phrases of Korean, it will go a long way, especially with the chicks. They always like it when the foreign guy makes an effort. Even better if you can read a little Hangul. It's incredibly easy to learn. In just a few hours, you'll get the general idea of how their writing system works. But in Thailand, no one gives two shits what language you speak. Sure, people are always happy when I say a few Thai words, but they honestly don't care.

So my friend, I'm happy for you on your sex trip, it's always a good thing to have, and for your time in Asia, I would recommend these countries, in this order for your visit.

Thailand first, have the time of your life, then onto Singapore since it's so near, stop by Tokyo for the always reliable Tokyo Hentai Club, then finally do Seoul for some anmas. Yes, without a doubt, the Korean and Japanese chicks will look better, but the Thai chicks will rock your world. Especially when you look at your wallet. Dollar for dollar, you can't go wrong with Bangkok. Thing is, if you've had a bad time in Seoul or Tokyo, odds are you've spent 200 bucks or more, and it'll bug you. But in Thailand, if you have a bad time, you might not have even spent 80 bucks. You'll grumble a little bit, walk over to the next massage brothel joint, and try again. With the readily available pharmaceutical assistance all over the place, you're always hard, always ready to go. Most places you'd have to bring your own supply or prescription. But not in Thailand baby! Boner pills galore. I thank Beelzebub for them! Now, if only someone would buy my soul, I'm trying to sell it. I really need the cash so I can retire in Thailand. I'd do that, I'd sell my soul to retire in Thailand.

KapnAmerica
03-23-24, 03:45
Good report may I ask what's your ethnicity? I've learned most of these girls don't like Dark skin guys like Indian and so on. YDP RLD will be my first stop in Seoul I've seen some videos and most of the girls are hot can't wait to fuck the hottest one I see, These girls don't do more than a quick fuck so asking for more than 30 minutes is not ideal. I have experience from growing up Korea Town LA.Thanks. I am 6'2, about 240 lbs, white skin, light brown hair, blue eyes. I think anyone who sees me knows immediately that I am American, or at least Western European ancestry. I am like catnip for Thais and Filipinas, but apparently like kryponite for Korean women.

By the way, I heard that Korean girls have a huge thing for black guys. Look it up on YouTube if you don't believe me. That may only be the case with regular Korean girls and not hookers, who might see a BBC as a risk to their livelihood. Still, I have to wonder if the reason for all the rejection in Korea was my utter lack of melanin.

FLT09
03-23-24, 08:30
Love them Kgirls! Looking to travel to Asian next and Korea is on my list. How would you go about it if it was your first visit again? Would you pick Korea? I was looking at Japan but I am wanting more than a L1 and L2 service for foreigners. In Japan I hear you can get it but a little more difficult. Thailand and Philippians seem over run and over commercialized. Service is declining as well from what I read. I was looking into Jakarta as well.I've haven't been in the game in Seoul for a number of years. My time was 2010-2016 and most my reports are from my times. I look here every once in a while to see if anything is different, but doesn't seem so. Point is, I would not go with any great expectations. It got progressively more difficult to find decent action and it was not cheap with the foreign premiums. By the time I was gone, I couldn't find a decent Anma anywhere in the city. The red light districts were always poor quality along with the 90% rejection. Escorts are nearly all old and overpriced. I've been making my way around Asia for 14 years now. While I had my fun in Korea, it is on the bottom of the list when it comes to price and quality added to the effort it takes to find options. There is plenty of action there and I saw some great places, but it took a Korean companion. If mongering is on your mind, anywhere else is going to be more fun.

Nother Monger
03-24-24, 00:20
Thanks. I am 6'2, about 240 lbs, white skin, light brown hair, blue eyes. I think anyone who sees me knows immediately that I am American, or at least Western European ancestry. I am like catnip for Thais and Filipinas, but apparently like kryponite for Korean women.

By the way, I heard that Korean girls have a huge thing for black guys. Look it up on YouTube if you don't believe me. That may only be the case with regular Korean girls and not hookers, who might see a BBC as a risk to their livelihood. Still, I have to wonder if the reason for all the rejection in Korea was my utter lack of melanin.While I haven't seen this on YT for this myself, I can tell you that in my experience talking with "civilians" and working girls, this is not what they tell me. Undoubtedly there are Korean women who will date / marry black men, to say that they "have a huge thing for black guys" might be a bit exaggerated. The reason foreigners get rejected is because there is still a bunch of unspoken racism in Korea, a belief that foreigners big dicks, and a few other reasons.

KapnAmerica
03-24-24, 03:21
The reason foreigners get rejected is because there is still a bunch of unspoken racism in Korea, a belief that foreigners big dicks, and a few other reasons.So what I am hearing is that I got turned down because the women were holding out for someone with a small dick. Shit, I feel a lot a better now. Wish there was a way I could buy you a beer.

Traveling John #2
03-24-24, 21:56
Prostitution is illegal in Korea. A few years ago it got out in the media US soldiers were going to these places filled with trafficked girls. Many of the bargirl spots became Korean only. Bargirls could only play darts or pool instead of drink.

I have a few girls in the RLD districts who will see me and gave me their kayak to stay in touch. They worry the police will shut them down for letting foreigners in. Of course it is also all the other reasons mentioned too.

KapnAmerica
03-25-24, 03:44
Prostitution is illegal in Korea. A few years ago it got out in the media US soldiers were going to these places filled with trafficked girls. Many of the bargirl spots became Korean only. Bargirls could only play darts or pool instead of drink.

I have a few girls in the RLD districts who will see me and gave me their kayak to stay in touch. They worry the police will shut them down for letting foreigners in. Of course it is also all the other reasons mentioned too.I can only assume that women who work in glass house neighbohood are not particularly worried about being shut down by the police. Based on news reports, I think Capital Alley is scheduled to be demolished sometime in early 2025. So I would assume the authorities are very aware of their presence and are allowing them to carry on with business as usual until the day they bring the wrecking ball in. The openness and notoriety of the place is what attracted me there. It is obviously a "tolerance zone."

I honestly was completely taken off guard by the apparent racism, though. I shouldn't have been, because I had a similar experience in Japan and felt racism everywhere I went there. I guess I am just not used to being discriminated against as a white man. That only happens to black and brown people most places I go. And suddenly in Japan and Korea, my white privilege gets flipped on its head, at least when it comes to paying for sex. It's a strange feeling for me.

Now I did visit Wanhua in Taipei later on in my trip, and I experienced very little racism there. I was able to find a native girl on the street there fairly easily and I had a fantastic time with her. So I think it is just a Japan and Korea thing.

The funny thing is that both those countries are suffering from terminally low birth rates, so you think they would be begging foreign men from first world countries to come f*ck their women. I had planned to use a pick up line for the ladies at the glass houses, that I had heard that the birth rate is low and I came to help. I think they would have been amused, but I was never able to get the words out before being told to get lost.

On the one hand, it kind of pisses me off and makes me want to never go back to Korea, but on the other hand I see an opportunity here. There are a lot of beautiful women in that country, and clearly there are not a lot of foreigners having easy success with them. So any Western man who can figure out how to unlock that door is going to be like a fox in a henhouse. And with any luck, help save Korea from collapse. Call it the Korean Baby Boom Project.

SeoulSearching
03-25-24, 09:02
Thanks. I am 6'2, about 240 lbs, white skin, light brown hair, blue eyes. I think anyone who sees me knows immediately that I am American, or at least Western European ancestry. I am like catnip for Thais and Filipinas, but apparently like kryponite for Korean women.

By the way, I heard that Korean girls have a huge thing for black guys. Look it up on YouTube if you don't believe me. That may only be the case with regular Korean girls and not hookers, who might see a BBC as a risk to their livelihood. Still, I have to wonder if the reason for all the rejection in Korea was my utter lack of melanin."A huge thing for" is more properly defined as appearing to have a black friend to show off. Sex and dating is another story. Women over 30 (if you are of that age) begin at "no thanks" and progressively grow less interested in black guys as the numbers go up.

Fat younger women have more interest in black guys, often because they will show them interest (these overweight women are often ignored by Korean men). If that's your thing, then Bob's your uncle.

SeoulSearching
03-25-24, 09:06
I can't confirm, but I haven't seen her in several years so I'd have to say no.

It's a shame, she was fun and had an Asia Carrera look with Asia Carrera size tits- except they were all natural.She was around maybe a year ago. I honestly have not been lurking up there since then, but maybe twice in a year. She could be around. I didn't see her again after I caught a nasty viral rash (not VD, just a rash) after a BJ where she drooled all over me and I didn't get to a shower fast enough.

Enter The V
03-25-24, 11:31
Prostitution is illegal in Korea. A few years ago it got out in the media US soldiers were going to these places filled with trafficked girls. Many of the bargirl spots became Korean only. Bargirls could only play darts or pool instead of drink.

I have a few girls in the RLD districts who will see me and gave me their kayak to stay in touch. They worry the police will shut them down for letting foreigners in. Of course it is also all the other reasons mentioned too.I'm just going to tell them my cock is small.

Garthie1
03-26-24, 00:56
Prostitution is illegal in Korea. A few years ago it got out in the media US soldiers were going to these places filled with trafficked girls. Many of the bargirl spots became Korean only. Bargirls could only play darts or pool instead of drink.

I have a few girls in the RLD districts who will see me and gave me their kayak to stay in touch. They worry the police will shut them down for letting foreigners in. Of course it is also all the other reasons mentioned too.

That was a Fox news report in 2002. Most bargirl spots didn't change to Korean, most turned away from Korean to Filipinos and Russians. In 1999 it was probably 40 to 50% Korean girls, but by 2003 it was about 10%. Now there are none other than Hooker Hill.

Before 2002 there were ajummas (mamasans) calling out on either side of the street with Korean girls working dozens of *****houses down every alley, nook and cranny, even one we called 'Sergeant Major'. All of that went away after 2002 and by 2005 Korea passed a law banning prositution- probably from Bush administration bible thumping pressure.

Garthie1
03-26-24, 00:58
So what I am hearing is that I got turned down because the women were holding out for someone with a small dick. Shit, I feel a lot a better now. Wish there was a way I could buy you a beer.I propositioned one RLD girl and the only thing she wanted to know was how big was my cock. I'm a white dude, too, so they must be terrified of the black guys.

LovinAsia
03-26-24, 05:41
Good report may I ask what's your ethnicity? I've learned most of these girls don't like Dark skin guys like Indian and so on. YDP RLD will be my first stop in Seoul I've seen some videos and most of the girls are hot can't wait to fuck the hottest one I see, These girls don't do more than a quick fuck so asking for more than 30 minutes is not ideal. I have experience from growing up Korea Town LA.Are you Korean or Korean American?? Because if not don't get your hopes up. They don't socialize with caucasians either at YDP.

LovinAsia
03-26-24, 06:38
I'm very proud to say that in my time I've hobbied the world over, I've fucked chicks from Prague to Nuremberg, Frankfurt to London, New York to Montreal, Vegas, Singapore, Bangkok, Amsterdam and even freaking Auckland NZ. In my humble estimation, the best chicks I ever got was in Prague and Singapore, but that's more about the chicks and the establishments I found them in and how management ran them, more than the city itself. But in terms of the best city to hobby in? Bangkok bar none.

While you can't go wrong with Korean chicks, whether you bang them in Seoul, Busan or even Toronto or NYC, in Seoul itself the best place to start are probably the anmas. Always try some kissbangs too. Unique experience though a bit hit or miss. For anmas, try Tiffany, Donuts or Fish. The thing with Korean chicks, and if you've had them here in north america, they have a pretty set routine, and if they're into it, they can be really good, but the routine in and of itself is already pretty good. The really good ones will rim, but that depends on your luck.

In Tokyo, the obvious place is Tokyo Hentai Club, safest bet, my go to when I'm town, but plenty of other joints to try.

If I got to do it all over again, my first trip to Asia would definitely not be the country I was stuck in. Trust me dude, it was decades ago, and let's just say I had no choice, and I've suffered PTSD from it ever since. All thanks to uncle sam. If I got to live my life all over again, under far better circumstances, I'd do Thailand. Absolutely Thailand.

Years, decades of hobbying, and I discovered the joys and magic of Thailand too late. Don't worry friend, despite what people say, Thailand isn't too commercialized or over exposed that you can't find a good time. If anything, it's precisely because of all that, is why you can find the good stuff among all the nonsense aimed at clueless sex tourists. Take it from this experienced sex tourist, the first time I went to Bangkok, I approached it like I did with all my sex trips and by that logic, I failed, and it wasn't a good of a trip as it could have been, almost made me give up on Thailand. But I persevered. I said to myself, knowing this city, it can't be the place itself, it was me. I did Thailand wrong. I was doing it all wrong. Because with Bangkok, all the rules for p4 p that works elsewhere in the world don't apply to Bangkok. So I did plenty of research, like a treasure hunter in a movie, I scoured internet forums from all over the weird, Japanese forums, Singaporean forums, you name it, and I armed myself with knowledge.

And lo and behold, my next trip to Bangkok changed my life. It changed me. For the best because now I felt that I had found the holy grail of mongering destinations, but for the worst because now I had become obsessed with going back there again. You can read all my reviews on the 3 weeks I spent in Bangkok 2 summers ago, and there you'll find the myriad choices you'll have when it comes to hobbying in Thailand. Nowhere in the world are there this many options, price ranges, availability, etc. And the country is safe, affordable, the food is great. Depending on what you look like, you might even be treated with reverence. I never felt so respected, and given so much leeway before. Where I'm from and where I am now, I'm essentially human garbage, but in Bangkok, I felt like a king.

Jakarta is ok, but like Manila, and kuala lumpur, dangerous. Bangkok is incredibly safe, next to Singapore it's easily the second safest big city in all of South East Asia.

Also in Seoul, you'd do well to know a few phrases of Korean, it will go a long way, especially with the chicks. They always like it when the foreign guy makes an effort. Even better if you can read a little Hangul. It's incredibly easy to learn. In just a few hours, you'll get the general idea of how their writing system works. But in Thailand, no one gives two shits what language you speak. Sure, people are always happy when I say a few Thai words, but they honestly don't care.

So my friend, I'm happy for you on your sex trip, it's always a good thing to have, and for your time in Asia, I would recommend these countries, in this order for your visit.

Thailand first, have the time of your life, then onto Singapore since it's so near, stop by Tokyo for the always reliable Tokyo Hentai Club, then finally do Seoul for some anmas. Yes, without a doubt, the Korean and Japanese chicks will look better, but the Thai chicks will rock your world. Especially when you look at your wallet. Dollar for dollar, you can't go wrong with Bangkok. Thing is, if you've had a bad time in Seoul or Tokyo, odds are you've spent 200 bucks or more, and it'll bug you. But in Thailand, if you have a bad time, you might not have even spent 80 bucks. You'll grumble a little bit, walk over to the next massage brothel joint, and try again. With the readily available pharmaceutical assistance all over the place, you're always hard, always ready to go. Most places you'd have to bring your own supply or prescription. But not in Thailand baby! Boner pills galore. I thank Beelzebub for them! Now, if only someone would buy my soul, I'm trying to sell it. I really need the cash so I can retire in Thailand. I'd do that, I'd sell my soul to retire in Thailand.If you're talking about overall public safety, Seoul beats Bangkok hands down. Mongering safety would go to Bangkok.

And you got Philippines behind Japan?? Ummm that's wrong. If you have a little bit of street smarts you will have dozens of GFE in the Philippines compared to Japan. You will rarely get GFE in Tokyo or Seoul unless you're going to pay $300 and up for the most part.

Plus they speak english so its a lot more comfortable.

Enter The V
03-26-24, 08:56
Are you Korean or Korean American?? Because if not don't get your hopes up. They don't socialize with caucasians either at YDP.I'm not white black or Indian. They just probably really dislike American gringos at YDP, Like I said I'm going tell the hottest girl there my Cock is small and its going to feel as if a Korean guy.

Banana Boi
03-26-24, 10:26
Are you Korean or Korean American?? Because if not don't get your hopes up. They don't socialize with caucasians either at YDP.Are Korean Americans who speak zero Korean accepted at YDP RLD?

LovinAsia
03-26-24, 22:17
I'm not white black or Indian. They just probably really dislike American gringos at YDP, Like I said I'm going tell the hottest girl there my Cock is small and its going to feel as if a Korean guy.Not just American. ALL foreigners who arent Korean LOL. Like I said, don't get your hopes up.

SeoulSearching
03-27-24, 09:39
That was a Fox news report in 2002. Most bargirl spots didn't change to Korean, most turned away from Korean to Filipinos and Russians. In 1999 it was probably 40 to 50% Korean girls, but by 2003 it was about 10%. Now there are none other than Hooker Hill.

Before 2002 there were ajummas (mamasans) calling out on either side of the street with Korean girls working dozens of *****houses down every alley, nook and cranny, even one we called 'Sergeant Major'. All of that went away after 2002 and by 2005 Korea passed a law banning prositution- probably from Bush administration bible thumping pressure.Yup. Was here to see most of that. The Bush era ruined it. The Obama era of left-nut Karens pushing the "trafficking" theme over every situation (truthful or not) made it worse.

Korea SUCKS for fun, anymore. Just SUCKS. Just don't even bother to come here. Overpriced, underwhelming, and just plain bad.

Was hoping someone could elaborate more on why / how Korean men are ruining the Philippines / Thailand? I have seen a few comments along those lines, but don't get out that way anymore. What's that all about? Thanks.

Enter The V
03-27-24, 12:22
Not just American. ALL foreigners who arent Korean LOL. Like I said, don't get your hopes up.Well I Look Korean so I'm good Girls will be calling me for business.

Banana Boi
03-27-24, 16:30
Was hoping someone could elaborate more on why / how Korean men are ruining the Philippines / Thailand? I have seen a few comments along those lines, but don't get out that way anymore. What's that all about?General stereotype is the same old 333. Korean men have 3 inch dicks so a girl would rather go with them than a 10 inch white man (dream on). A Korean man will cum in 3 minutes so a girl would rather go with them than a white guy who has the endurance of a marathon runner. Korean men will pay 3k when the rate is only 1.5 k. In other words, Korean men overpay. The above applies to Japanese and Chinese too.

So basically white guys say the Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese have ruined the market whenever they get shot down by a girl, eluding that the girl only wants Asian men.

LovinAsia
03-28-24, 04:39
Yup. Was here to see most of that. The Bush era ruined it. The Obama era of left-nut Karens pushing the "trafficking" theme over every situation (truthful or not) made it worse.

Korea SUCKS for fun, anymore. Just SUCKS. Just don't even bother to come here. Overpriced, underwhelming, and just plain bad.

Was hoping someone could elaborate more on why / how Korean men are ruining the Philippines / Thailand? I have seen a few comments along those lines, but don't get out that way anymore. What's that all about? Thanks.You just answered your own question about korean men in SEA LOL.

SeoulSearching
04-01-24, 22:36
What is up with the idiot posting messages on CL looking for massages at rates as high or higher than MR rates?

Makes me wonder if someone is just trying to drive prices up?

MMFgBangLover
04-03-24, 12:29
Are Korean Americans who speak zero Korean accepted at YDP RLD?Check my posts on ydp, I wrote about mostly all the girls that accept foreigners. Only about 3 girls ever spoke English to me. 2 of them I didn't mention but were of the older ones on A row and wanted 200 k plus for the standard 15 min. The ones who accept foreigners will make eye contact and wave you in. Last time I was there, about 6 of them. The others I went up to, they opened the door and I started the conversation. Chatting in korean is needed. Might be able to get by with less since you're gyopo and they might not notice. I've seen Korean guys just go in, not even looking at the girl and not saying anything. Also Japanese speaking English to them. I'm non asian euro FYI.

MMFgBangLover
04-05-24, 06:51
Jane said she's back at opening up Apple near the hill. Only ever seen her there Fridays after 10. She's not the most consistent but easily the youngest around with biggest natural boobs without being a BBW.

TC123
04-09-24, 01:37
Was hoping someone could elaborate more on why / how Korean men are ruining the Philippines / Thailand? I have seen a few comments along those lines, but don't get out that way anymore. What's that all about? Thanks.In the Philippines, a lot of the girls say that wealthy Korean businessmen come there, spend big, and think that throwing a lot of money around gives them the right to treat the girls roughly. I'm not sure how true or extensive this is, but the view among the girls is pretty widespread, so they don't like to go with Korean men.

I've never hear that in Thailand.

Banana Boi
04-09-24, 05:57
In the Philippines, a lot of the girls say that wealthy Korean businessmen come there, spend big, and think that throwing a lot of money around gives them the right to treat the girls roughly.

I've never hear that in Thailand.That's the exact opposite on what you read on the Thai threads. All the white men say Thai girls go with Koreans cause they are easy lays and have small dicks. You read that daily by naive ignorant posters on the Thai forum.

Enter The V
04-10-24, 12:52
Check my posts on ydp, I wrote about mostly all the girls that accept foreigners. Only about 3 girls ever spoke English to me. 2 of them I didn't mention but were of the older ones on A row and wanted 200 k plus for the standard 15 min. The ones who accept foreigners will make eye contact and wave you in. Last time I was there, about 6 of them. The others I went up to, they opened the door and I started the conversation. Chatting in korean is needed. Might be able to get by with less since you're gyopo and they might not notice. I've seen Korean guys just go in, not even looking at the girl and not saying anything. Also Japanese speaking English to them. I'm non asian euro FYI.What's the best time to go in your opinion?

SeoulSearching
04-12-24, 03:30
Looks like Hooker Hill is going thru a bit of a change. XO bar now cleared out. Old VIP bar near corner is a pizza shop. Old Ambrosia now a coffee shop.

Enter The V
04-12-24, 13:03
Looks like Hooker Hill is going thru a bit of a change. XO bar now cleared out. Old VIP bar near corner is a pizza shop. Old Ambrosia now a coffee shop.Is Miari open for business?

Le Lion
04-14-24, 18:22
Looks like Hooker Hill is going thru a bit of a change. XO bar now cleared out. Old VIP bar near corner is a pizza shop. Old Ambrosia now a coffee shop.Oh no! How many hooker shops are still open?

SeoulSearching
04-15-24, 06:57
Oh no! How many hooker shops are still open?Looks like 1 or 2 on The Hill. One where Bean was known to work. At least I think they still are open. There are a few tranny bars up there now. Tiffany and Paradise (I think is the name) next to the Uzbeck restaurant. Apple, apparently. Haven't been around to see this "Jane" though. But all seem to open very late night or later on weekends only.

SeoulSearching
04-17-24, 01:06
Saw this on Instagram. Not sure how recent? Installing CCTV and pushing out people from the last sex districts to make way for development:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5AHi4Dtt8c/

Enter The V
04-22-24, 12:59
Saw this on Instagram. Not sure how recent? Installing CCTV and pushing out people from the last sex districts to make way for development:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5AHi4Dtt8c/NOOO!! Say it isn't so YDP has to be open for when I arrive in Seoul!

MMFgBangLover
04-26-24, 07:16
There's a new girl at Apple working along with Jane.

The new girl is about as young but too big imo.

Seems nice but wouldn't recommend unless big is your thing.

LovinAsia
04-26-24, 15:40
NOOO!! Say it isn't so YDP has to be open for when I arrive in Seoul!Don't get your hopes up anyway. If you are non korean they won't take you pretty much.