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AsiaTraveler2
02-19-03, 22:57
Originally posted by bamse1969
"but during the session, my cock slided out of her pussy, and i took the opportunity to place it in the other hole."

"she tried to move away, but i just laid down on her back – pressing her to the bed, and asked her to lay low – then there would be no problems. "

".. and watching her (suddenly) awake face. I could see she was not ready for this wake up call – so i decided: What the hell – took out my cock from her pussy, placed it between her lips – and started to fuck her face (i think i was a little to rough, but hey – i was going places with her) so just before i came – i took of the condom and squirted in her face (first experience for me) "

"She was so angry (but hey, i know there would be no second chance for her) – and rushed off for the bathroom – "

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I think it's clearly evident that bamse1969 was out of line. Moving from one thing to another, when he clearly saw signs that she was either not ready or in fact mad. He never asked if it was ok .. simply did as he pleased. I like to give guy's the benefit of the doubt too, but I don't think there's much doubt on this one. My only hope is that bamse1969 see's it now and treats the girls better in the future.

Monger22
02-19-03, 23:04
if it walks like a dog, barks like a dog an looks like a dog, then it must be a dog. an this sure looks like a [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) to me...

acts like yours makes it harder for us in the long run.

if you have a fantasy call marc an go to the eden club in the future.

MeatMan
02-19-03, 23:11
Hey Joe_zop,

Just wondering, have you written a book on your travels in LOS.If so,where can I find them?


bamse1969,You just simply did whatever you want to this woman! whatever you did will happen to you tenfold.. YOU FUCKED UP REAL BAD BUD!

Toosh
02-19-03, 23:26
have to agree with joe_zop about suspecting the veracity of bamse1969. the two accounts do not match up. the first one clearly indicates sexual act(s) done to a girl who was randomly picked up and then forced to sumbit to sex act(s) against her will (ie [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)). bamse1969 language also suggests a clear contempt for this girl as well.

the second account sounds like the rats running for cover in the tall grass and trying to put a happy face on force and intimidation. his so called source confirms nothing to me except that it sounds like a bunch of invented bs to cover his ass.

Joe Zop
02-19-03, 23:35
Meatman -- sorry, that's not really what I've been writing about, though I did do some essays and take some notes this time that might turn into something in the future. I'm sure, wordy as I can be, some folks here would say you could find the book on my travels here, simply by hitting the search button :)

I'm complimented by the interest, thanks!

Freeler
02-20-03, 00:12
Frog,

From the airport the train is a far better choice. The schedule on the page you have the shortcut to is not correct anymore, but trains for Korat leave about every two hours.
Prices depend on the kind of train and service and range from B58-ordinary to B288-aircon-special-express.

What's your ETA?

Buses do leave from the NBT(Morchit2) but stop at the airport...

Cchadol
02-20-03, 00:28
Originally posted by Freeler
Frog,

From the airport the train is a far better choice. The schedule on the page you have the shortcut to is not correct anymore, but trains for Korat leave about every two hours.
Prices depend on the kind of train and service and range from B58-ordinary to B288-aircon-special-express.

What's your ETA?

Buses do leave from the NBT(Morchit2) but stop at the airport...

I will need to go to Korat see my gf. I would like to have following information.

1. How long will it take from bkk to Korat: bus vs. train

2. U mentioned that the train has a luxury line w/ ac (b288), are there luxury bus service? if so. how much?

Thank you.

Frog
02-20-03, 00:40
Freeler:
Thanks for your reply.
- the train:
Of course, but does the ride really last about 5 hours for that aprox. 300 km's?
- buses:
if the buses stop in front of the airport, where? (I don't remember any other than local buses).
But my schedule isn't as good: arriving approx. 2 p.m on a Friday...
...What's your ETA?...

-if you mean budget, well, i tend to pay a little bit more for a fast and convenient travel as by air...
- if you mean Estim. Time of Arrival, see above.

JuiceSpike
02-20-03, 02:19
Asiatraveler2,

You asked me:.."what's your feeling on those that partake of their services?" The same, low including myself too. But man, it is fun... Right?

juice.

AsiaTraveler2
02-20-03, 02:33
Originally posted by juicespike
Asiatraveler2,

You asked me:.."what's your feeling on those that partake of their services?" The same, low including myself too. But man, it is fun... Right?


Juice;

Ha! You are right .. it is fun. Never been proud of myself for this "flaw" that I see in my character, but life is short! Other than that, though, I do see myself as a stand up guy. I don't generally think any less of the girls as well. Appreciate your insight though.

PurpleNGold
02-20-03, 05:52
Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
Juice;

Ha! You are right .. it is fun. Never been proud of myself for this "flaw" that I see in my character, but life is short! Other than that, though, I do see myself as a stand up guy. I don't generally think any less of the girls as well. Appreciate your insight though.

I have quite a high regard for the girls who put in an honest effort for their pay (and even for the ones who just lay there and let you have what you paid for). They come, most of the time, from a desperate situation and do what they can to survive. They are certainly not being dishonest or hurting anyone. Maybe they don't have the education of others, but I don't always equate education and intelligence/wisdom.

I see sex work as a form of manual labor. And, the hardworking, blue collar usually has a lot of dignity. Why should these girls be different? Because we attach a stigma to selling the one commodity they can?

The Thai bar girls I've had experience with (admittedly very few) seem to somehow hold onto their self-respect. Maybe it's the Thai Bhuddist philosophy that allows this. Whatever the reason though, I don't think many of them consider what they're doing to be immoral or inherently wrong. I think, they just see it as a bad situation because the work is so demanding (and at times, dangerous). Sure, they'd rather be at home cuddling up with a husband rather than having some fat, ugly, slob groping them. But, I know, when I'm at work, I am usually spending a lot of brain power imagining that I'm out on a perfect wave rather than having a fat, ugly slob tell me why he wants me to code something in an utterly inefficient manner.

And, as for my opinion of myself. Well, I'm just a hedonist, and I agree that it's fun :-)

JuiceSpike
02-20-03, 06:26
Purple,

Yeah, you haven't met too many Thai girls yet... For your info, most of the girls do it because it is easy work and pays very well compared to even college educated women and men in average jobs... Non of the working girls "really" like fucking for money although they enjoy fucking a few but this is rare. If they find a man with a "good heart" they enjoy the sex. A man with a "good heart" treats them well, is sympathetic and non-judgemental and either takes them shopping or gives them a good tip. A man with a "good heart" is also a man that will buy their sex for consecutive days or take them on a trip after negotiating a fee for days or weeks. A man with a "good heart" is one that will also send them money and look after them for months or even years. Most of the girls have low opinions of punters (not ironic) and see them as walking ATM but less cynical than we might think of it. Most girls after the age of 25 would take any opportunity to get out of the biz but they are so used to making money that it is very hard for them to do it on their own unless they have a sponsor: the "good heart man...." etc...etc...

It is not a moral issue for me. Most of the girls working the scene are fucked up in one way or another... the buyers are too...

juice.

Freeler
02-20-03, 07:33
Frog,

You remember, so you've been there before. That makes things easier...
The first train after you arrive is at 16.10 and takes 5 hours (ordinary train).

The buses going out of town stop across the bridge to the rws. The difficulty with catching buses there is that they can be full and that they may only show their destination in Thai. And Korat has as many names in Thai as it has in 'English'...

You can go to the Morchit2 (MorchitSong) terminal by bus or taxi. Make sure the taxidriver understands that you want to go to Morchit2, or he may drop you off at Morchit, the Skytrainstation...
Bus: Take any aircon bus from out of town, the ones showing Bangkok-Ayuthaya or Bangkok-Sukhotai etc on the side, for B10 to the terminal. Stay on all the way until you have clearly reached a busstation,then walk to the Departure area (200m) find the Korat bus (next to the Pattaya buses). This route - Airport-terminal-airport-Korat also takes about 5 hours. Catching the bus at the airport staight to Korat 3-4 hours.

Toosh
02-20-03, 07:49
Juice,

Who isn't fucked up in one way or the other? I've never met a perfect person - morally or otherwise. If you do not see mongering as a moral issue (both for the Ho and the John) how can you see it as a "flaw"? I don't understand your point or what appears to me to be a loathing of sorts for both you and the provider.

If you look at the history of man what we are doing appears to be a long standing practice and as natural as drinking water. It is, after all, supposedly the oldest profession. How more mainstream of an activity or profession can you get than that? As long as we are not hurting others (like bamse1969) or cheating on a spouse I don't see it as inherently flawed. I don't recommend it as a profession but it's been around a lot longer than golf (which I love as well) and probably has a lot more satisfied customers.

PurpleNGold
02-20-03, 07:59
Juice,

Interesting description of the "good heart" man from the point of view of the TG. I can't refute that because my experience is so limited.

But, as I posted (here or in another topic), a beautiful girl that treats me like a king can have whatever inner view that she wants. It doesn't really matter, does it?

I can't remember the philosopher who is credited with it, but I do remember the question: "A mean spirited, miserly man spends his entire life faking that he is a kind, generous person. He is such a perfect actor that, in his whole life, he is the only one who ever truly knows himself. Is he really mean spirited and miserly?" Applied to this situation: A hardened pro who sees me as a meal ticket works the duration of our relationship to make sure I only see an sweet woman who caters to my every desire. She does such a good job, that I have nothing but fond memories of our time together. Which is the real person?

As for being f***ed up. I'm sure that a lot of people would see me as that way if society allowed me to be public about my views about rented love. But, too each his own. I don't think this particular moral stance flaws me (Plenty of other aspects of my personality do that well enough :-). I can and have had serious relationships with non-pros. They had there pluses and minuses, and for now, I'm just going to enjoy my freedom of choice without the self-flatulation.

PurpleNGold
02-20-03, 08:36
Originally posted by frog
(Will buy the AMAZING THAILAND FAIR from Thai Airways and then go on by plane because of short-time holidays)

What's this fair? How much does it cost? Are there any transfers (I don't mind a brief stop, but don't like having to change planes (and possibly go through customs en route)? Any restrictions?

What's the best rate out there for a one or no stop flight?

PurpleNGold
02-20-03, 09:12
Originally posted by juicespike
Purple,
(SNIP)
For your info, most of the girls do it because it is easy work and pays very well compared to even college educated women and men in average jobs... Non of the working girls "really" like fucking for money
(SNIP)


What's wrong with this? They've found a commodity that sells better, for them, than intellect. They aren't sweating in a kitchen or garment factory for virtually nothing, and they aren't taking the easy road out by stealing. Kudos for them.

They don't really like doing this? Okay. I'm sure that the typical longshoreman doesn't get up every day and think, "I love my job!!!" Nor does the office secretary. Nor the... I am lucky enough to be doing something that lets me use my brain, and play with neat toys. But, at any given moment, I'd rather be surfing. Point is, I doubt that 1 person in a 1000 would do his/her job if not for the money. So, why should we use that issue against these girls?

WayneKing
02-20-03, 09:48
Dear ALL
If only this had been discussed a few months ago when all the hard hitting posters were giving their views.
Let me fill you in on a few Bargirl secrets:
1. "I have only been doing this for a few weeks" means I have been shagging since I was about twelve when my father /brother gave me one. Since progressing from a rice paddy at sixteen I have been hard at it for the last seven years. How much business do you think a girl will make if she says she has been laid pretty much non-stop for the last ten years.
2. 'Most girls dont like it but what choice do they have?' Perhaps you should ask the ugly girls in Bkk or Issan what choice they have. Earn Bht 4,000 pcm planting rice or five thousand in a factory. These Bargirls earn Bht 50,000 pcm (if they are good)spreading their assets.
3. A Shop girl earns about Bht 7,000 pcm a Bank Clerk earns about Bht 9,000 pcm. WAKE UP EVERYONE.
Take these girls for what they are. Very cute Hookers. But if you are going to tell me they are mis-understood little sweethearts who would much rather be doing something else you are very wrong. They want to get their hands on as much cash as possible as quickly as possible. Why do you think so many girls that find a man 'with a good heart' wait until their Terak gets on a plane and then head straight back down to Nana, Cowboy etc...
THEY WANT TO MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE. Remember this and all will be well.
Also do not judge what is acceptable from what you find acceptable in your society. If you have not noticed Thais and European/Americans are poles apart. Compare a Cheeseburger to a Tom Yum and you will just about understand the difference.
Now once you understand all of this they are cute, fun and can be great company. They will serve your every need and often, when treated well, will be very good companions. But do not think these girls are being used. You might be paying but it is the girls that walk away with the cash.
Enjoy
Wayne

Apac Boy
02-20-03, 11:36
ok, this might be my last post until I get into BKK...

I'm going to spend enough to raise Thailand's GDP by at least 5%. I have made a checklist of things i've never done yet and will do on this trip. here r sum highlites:

1) get a gurl longtime for 500bht in bkk no matter how ugly or old she is...all these posters come on here gloating how little they paid, well, i'm going to gloat too

2) try a 4,000 bht+ model from the model lounge in plaza or posiedon...does beauty equate skill? we shall see...

3) get a gurl longtime for 500bht in pattaya. shit, i've never done this either so i just want to do it so i can say i did it. This can be subsituted for 300bht short time...

4) don't take drugs in pattaya or bangkok. viagara excluded...

5) take "action" photos...wink wink...time to work on my abs...

Samus, u better email me so we can meet up at TLR on the 15th...

tapioca1688@hotmail.com

me

PurpleNGold
02-20-03, 12:19
Good luck Tap. Hope you hit your goals :-)

And, if you care to share the action shots, my e-mail is purplengold123@yahoo.com. Don't worry about the abs, I wouldn't be paying attention to that part of the pics ;-)

WayneKing
02-20-03, 12:27
Tapioca
At last someone who knows what the real score is in Thailand. Have you met any sad poor victims recently on your travels?
I am pretty sick of hearing about how unfortunate these poor girls are. What terrible victims of society they are. How they would much rather be knee deep in shit planting rice while tethering their families sick buffalo.
Here is a good test for all those who think the girls have only been doing this for a week because they do not go down on you, take it up the dirt box etc...
Befriend the Mamasan and ask her for a fresh one. Once you have got over the sign language and have worked out the ST rate see what a feeble shag they are.
The girls you meet in bars in Bkk are pros not victims. You want to see victims go to the knocking shops in Chiang Mai where the Burmese girls are chained to posts and take it anywhere from the local labourers for about Bht 50. (Which they do not ever see!)The girls in Sukum are Pros and they are good at what they do. Enjoy!! And move onto the next one. If you get stuck on one, still enjoy and like a chapter in a book, when you leave turn the page. Do not send money, do not 'fall in love'
And lets stop all this morality shit about the poor little angel who took a load from that pig 1969. This is one of the reasons why the entire population does not do this work!! It can get dirty being a Hooker. If she has just received bht 2,000 she could hire a small team of thugs to kick his head in. You can have someone 'rubbed out' in Bkk for that price!!!
Wayne

Joe Zop
02-20-03, 15:21
Wayneking:

The whole issue with bamse1969 wasn't really about the girl at all -- it was about his behavior. Hooker or not, that's no way to treat a woman. That's true whether a she has been in the sack with ten thousand guys or one.

You're sick of hearing how unfortunate these girls are -- fine. I'm sick of hearing what low-life money-grubbing pieces of trash they are, and how that somehow means you should treat them badly. There's as much variation as there are women, and some are hard-core actors who've been doing it for years, some are new to the game, some are happy with what they're doing, some are not. Some are misunderstood sweethearts, some are dragons with paint, some are drug-addicted scum, some are really supporting their families. Some will do absolutely anything you can think of, some will not. Part of the punter's game is looking for the type you want, and part of the provider's game is trying to be that type so you can get the money.

It's completely true that some make immense amounts of money and blow it right away, but it's also true that many do not, and see less than a customer a week. So what? Is the implication that they don't deserve what they're earning? If you feel that, then follow skinless and freeler's advice and journeys. Don't go to NYC and complain you can get the same hotel room in Nebraska for a tenth of the price.

I look at it as though these ladies are professional athletes -- they have a limited career in terms of top-of-the-line money-making potential and then it's basically over. They can go through a fair amount of discomfort and damage in the process, some love and some hate what they do, they get an undue amount of attention compared to other professions around them, and they'd better get it while they can and as much of it as possible, because their shelf life is only so long. Unlike that bank clerk, their income potential goes down, not up, with experience. It's a young person's game.

It's funny to see you call on Tapioca to provide a good hard-core monger perspective (and no offense, Tap, and have a great time) considering he's been to LOS, what, three times? Some of us have been there far more and far longer, have seen lots, and still don't feel it's necessary to be essentially negative about these women.

Juice's perspective on "good heart" is pretty accurate in many cases, no question about it. (We could have a long discussion about the take on "good heart" from the Thai perspective, not only using sex workers as the model -- it's simply different in terms of how we look at things in the west.) But it's not the only form or way it shows up, and it's not particularly surprising, either. Given that we're walking in, picking women out of a line-up for generally superficial physical reasons, renting and using their bodies, and then deciding or not that we'll see/keep them again, we should somehow expect them to be concerned with our true character and nature? They judge us on what they have to judge us with -- how we treat them and how much money we give them. Why anyone thinks that should be at all surprising is what I find amazing.

Freeler
02-20-03, 17:56
Tapioca,

I like your goals.
Good luck achieving them.

PurpleNGold
02-20-03, 20:42
Great post JZ. Once again, I think there's some remarkable insight and eloquence.

Just curious, what do you do for a living? I noticed your remark in an earlier post about writing. Is that your profession?

Freeler
02-20-03, 21:07
All,

I feel that this whole discussion shouldn't be here but in 'Thai Women - Opinions & Advice', but now my handle got mentioned, so here 'goes it':

'Is the implication that they don't deserve what they're earning? If you feel that, then follow Skinless' and Freeler's advice and journeys.'

Some people might think from that post that I think that they don't deserve what they are earning.
Well, in fact I do.
I respect all women and what they do and earn unless they (attempt to) steal from me.
It's just that they won't get their inflated income from me, but if others are stupid enough not to understand the first thing about the actual cost of living in Thailand and pay B1,000 for a shorttime, it's fine with me.

Thai working girls in Pattaya, Patong and Bangkok are not who they were back home.
That's not the girls' fault, but the fault of the men who pay far too much because they are ignorant and stupid!
Don't blame the girls for taking advantage of that ignorance and
stupidity.

JuiceSpike
02-21-03, 01:36
Joe,

You are indeed eloquent and know how to write well. Good writing is persuasive and powerful. It can move the masses. I pretty much agree with almost everything you write about the Thai girls but I think sometimes you forget to use the "society at large" context when discussing Thai prostitutes. For example, you wrote:

"The whole issue with bamse1969 wasn't really about the girl at all -- it was about his behavior. Hooker or not, that's no way to treat a woman. That's true whether a she has been in the sack with ten thousand guys or one."

If you were to use this argument in court in front of a jury everybody would agree with you excpet for this part:
"... That's true whether she has been in the sack with ten thousand guys or one...."

Why? Because if she was in that room with that man while prostituting herself the jury would pass judgement or be much less sympathetic with her and more likely believe the guy or at least give him the benefit of the doubt. Context.

juice.

Frog
02-21-03, 01:46
freeler:
Thank you for your help. Looks like I never travelled overland in LOS and that's right. All-in-all this seems to be another half-day-travel so i think i'll better have a stop-over in Bangkok (Omni-Tower?) and travel to Korat by train the next day. I know lazy Frog is really tired after the long-haul-flight.
Would you prefer CM or Korat? Seems i'm running out time. Before I travelled to Phuket and Samui...

Joe Zop
02-21-03, 06:06
Freeler -- point taken on where this discussion should take place, and this will be the last one I do here, and I'll keep it brief (well, as much as it's possible for me to manage to do that!) Let me clearly state, as you no doubt knew, that in no way was I implying you or Skinless didn't think these women earned their money, or that you guys were essentially cheap charlies. I was merely pointing out that your journeys involved paying less, usually outside the beaten tracks in tourist areas such as Bangkok where prices are higher, that's all. (Hence my NYC hotel analogy.)

The rest of my response is in the Thai women area...

Freeler
02-21-03, 07:06
Frog,

Answer in 'Other areas"

Byeon Kwang Sae
02-23-03, 03:07
I need advice from anyone that can help me. I am an ex-pat that is now firmly entrenched in the South East Asian “rogue” lifestyle. Yes, it is true, (LOL) I am just another blue-eyed white-devil barbarian hiding out on the beach among the innocents.

I need good advice on how to hide here in Thailand from ex-wives, their blood-sucking attorneys, and the taxman. I have an alternate identity, some bogus papers, a fair-quality bogus passport, and even credit cards under my new name, but I am just not sure if I can outsmart the police forever.

I would be grateful to hear from anyone, preferably off the board, (please write to me at yahoo) with information regarding how to get a real high quality “legal” name change, and how to obtain a “travelable” alternate identity passport. If you know a Bangkok attorney (that can be trusted) that specializes in this type of work, that would be good.

Some specific questions that maybe some of you would know - -

1.)If I am wanted back home for a civil violation (failure to pay alimony) am I at any risk if I cross thru passport control points at airports using my original passport?
2.)If I am also wanted back home for some minor criminal charge, does that show up internationally and do border guards look for people like me?
3.)Is there a way that I can search, perhaps via the Internet, and stay plugged into International Wants and Warrants, so that I would know if I were really at risk?

Thanks,

Byeon Kwang Sae
just_a_nice_old_guy@yahoo.com

BigWang
02-23-03, 04:35
Originally posted by Byeon Kwang Sae


1.)If I am wanted back home for a civil violation (failure to pay alimony) am I at any risk if I cross thru passport control points at airports using my original passport?
2.)If I am also wanted back home for some minor criminal charge, does that show up internationally and do border guards look for people like me?

just_a_nice_old_guy@yahoo.com How do we know if they are minor civil violations and minor criminal charges? Do we really want to help a criminal hide in Thailand?

LarryOne
02-23-03, 21:19
I am of the same opinion of the previous poster. I think (if I am not mistaken) that this is a forum for punters looking to exchange info regarding how to find some Pun....

As for info for criminals and other shady characters, I would imagine that it could not be too hard for a shady expat to find info from his equally shady compadres - you know who they are. Just spend a day in Pattaya and you will find that it is full of characters that have spend a large part of their lives behind bars (gives new meaning to the old hand slang of never sit with your back against the entrance while in a bar). Actually, here in NYC many of the characters that you run in to while in LOS would probably not even be allowed on the N train back to Manhattan after they have been dropped off from Rikers Island prison with their subway allowance at Q.B. Plaza - I am actually surprised interpool has not set up shop at passport control at the BKK airport.

Jeeze - No wonder that the Thais think that most Farangs are litterally insane.....Enough said!

Kinesics
02-24-03, 04:11
Re: BKS¡¯s posting,


Even though I¡¯ve been following this board and thanks for great and practical information, this is my first. I used to travel heavily in Asia-Pacific region in 1999/2000. Now I¡¯ve been traveling Europe and South America. So my focus has been on respective boards. I¡¯m coming around to Asia-Pacific soon though.

My assessment on BKS¡¯ posting regarding civil/criminal offenses, assumed identity and hiding -

It is total fabrication that is so childish and shallow and not even funny. He might be extremely boring so he may want to stir the board¡¯s responses, or watched too many movies.

Law enforcement agencies including immigration check points at the airports allocate their resources to catch much bigger fishes and stop serious crimes. Interpol works based on inter-country law enforcement protocols. No one will waste the resources on BKS¡¯ accounts and he knows it.

And, I think he is far from being of a blue eye and white barbarian, and he knows that too. I may send him a few specific instructions and tips under separate cover.

See you soon in Bangkok.

Ngp477
02-24-03, 04:40
Originally posted by Byeon Kwang Sae

Some specific questions that maybe some of you would know - -

1.)If I am wanted back home for a civil violation (failure to pay alimony) am I at any risk if I cross thru passport control points at airports using my original passport?
2.)If I am also wanted back home for some minor criminal charge, does that show up internationally and do border guards look for people like me?
3.)Is there a way that I can search, perhaps via the Internet, and stay plugged into International Wants and Warrants, so that I would know if I were really at risk?

Thanks,




There would be no crime for failure to pay alimony unless it is a crime in your state. Several states make it a crime to not support your children. I am not aware of a state making failure to pay alimony a crime.

With regard to minor criminal charges, called misdemeanors, most states will not extradite a person for a misdemeanor. It costs to much to transport the prisoner.

With regards to warrants, you might like to contact a criminal defense attorney where you previously lived. He could contact the warrants division of the sheriff and they MIGHT tell him if there is a warrant out for your arrest. The lawyer should say that you are interested in turning yourself in if there is a warrant for your arrest. That way the sheriff may tell him if there is a warrant out for your arrest or not. There is no requirement that this info be given out, but some law enforecment agencies will give it out to an attorney.

Correct me if wrong, but I believe the immigration at each country are only concerned if there is a warrant out for you in their country or if there is an extradition treaty with the US AND a felony out for your arrest. Many countries do not have extradition treaties at all with the US, like Cuba and France which harbored Roman Polanski a child molester, and for some countries it depends on if the offense is a serious crime in their country.
Best of luck.

Dickhead
02-24-03, 06:28
The guy is not American.

Joe Zop
02-24-03, 06:59
Npaul's got it right -- the bottom line is that if you're not wanted for a serious felony, nobody cares or notices. And often not even then. To worry about this when there are tons of folks who have run in and out of LOS despite being on terrorist watch lists is rather laughable. People aren't tracked down in their own homes in their own cities for failure to pay alimony -- why should anyone really think some other government is going to enforce this?

The bottom line is that international exchange of police information is not universal and is far from comprehensive. While there are links between, Interpol and, say, the US LEIN (Law Enforcement Information Network) system, there are definitely massive gaps in the exchange, and to think that all this is going to be delivered in full detail and in real-time to every passport booth in countries where they're lucky to electric power that's reliable is to have a belief in technology that borders on religious dudgeon.

Pahllus Maximus
02-25-03, 03:03
A few questions:

Are there any good gyms I can work in in BKK ? Good range of machines for serious weightlifting, and ideally a trainer as well ?

Secondly, anyone ever tried taking a cutie on an overnight dive boat that I dive after I am out of the water (grin) ? Any "girl friendly" boats ? What is good diving right now ? Is there any coral bleaching ?

Seoulmac
02-25-03, 03:32
We are going off on a tangent here, what does a "hardened criminal" with a misdamenor have to do with mongering in BKK? If paid sex were a crime, then we would all be guilty here now as prositition is illegal in Thailand. ;)

As for the gyms, I have visited one in Pacific Place I believe, next to Times Square. The first is more modern and better facilities including hot girls who workout there. The one in Times Square is older but has a good view of Sukhamvit Road and buildings. Cost difference between the two is only about $2 so splurge on the nice one! I get my buildings mixed up but they are about 1-3 blocks within each other.

Going back to the board and questions, I tried out a new place called Cascade in NEP. Place was dead and girls were super friendly on opening night around Feb. 10. Just got back from MP on Ratchapadisek so the milk carton was empty after 3 rounds otherwise I would have taken one of these new girls home. Anybody have experience with the place? What drew my attention most is the TALL girls working there, apart from also the mammasan talking about the girls being very very new, most their first night. Don't know how true but girls were friendly and shy. None of the "Halloo, welkum" lines and little English at all.

PurpleNGold
02-25-03, 04:06
Originally posted by Pahllus Maximus
Secondly, anyone ever tried taking a cutie on an overnight dive boat that I dive after I am out of the water (grin) ? Any "girl friendly" boats ? What is good diving right now ? Is there any coral bleaching ?

While in Phuket, I stopped by a dive shop (don't remember the name, but it was a PADI 5 star operation). The TG I was with was more than welcome. She doesn't dive, but the shop was going to let her do a 'discover diving' trip where they do a brief course and make sure she's with a dive master the whole time. I don't think they care about the girl's history as long as they get the fee for a paying customer.

Unfortunately, my girl didn't want to go. Oh, well, next time I'm shopping in NEP, I'll make sure to tell the mamasan that the girl has to be a diver ;-)

AsiaTraveler2
02-25-03, 04:29
Originally posted by seoulmac
Going back to the board and questions, I tried out a new place called Cascade in NEP. Anybody have experience with the place? What drew my attention most is the TALL girls working there ...

seoulmac;

Are you sure that's not one of the ladyboy bars? Two red flags are the fact that it's empty .. most ladyboy bars don't get alot of action. The 2nd redflag is the "TALL" girls working there. Most Thai girls are not very tall. Usually 5'2" or shorter. The ladyboys, on the other hand are tall. If they had alot of makeup and big hands, that probably clinches it.

Joe Zop
02-25-03, 06:11
Cascade's not all that new -- it's been around long enough to be on two versions of Nana maps that I've got. I don't know whether or not it's a katooey bar, but it might not be all that busy not for that reason but because it's on the third floor on Nana, and not a lot of people make it up that far. I know I didn't this last trip. The other bars up there aren't filled with ladyboys as far as I know, but it's been a while since I was there.

Seoulmac
02-25-03, 11:07
No, no I did not see any katooeys but there is a bar below it on the 2nd level that caters to that if that is your cup of tea. I just had my questions about Cascade because as I said- it was empty, looked very new inside, had stunning dancers who were 5'6''- tall by Thai standards. I talked with about 5 girls from there and got the feeling that finding a brand new club with fresh girls in the middle of such a high traffic place like Nana Plaza was a dream. But then again, places like these open and close all the time. My only regret was leaving BKK without trying it and thought we should keep each other posted of these new findings before we all become saturated with the scene again.

BTW, the upper level girls at Baccara are now 800 baht for bar fine and appear to only go short time. The VIP area I used to frequent now charges and one has been taken away to build another bar upstairs. This is a Japanese stronghold in Soi Cowboy so once again, thanks for japping up the price guys, this was my favorite hangout until now.

AsiaTraveler2
02-25-03, 14:15
Originally posted by seoulmac
No, no I did not see any katooeys but there is a bar below it on the 2nd level that caters to that if that is your cup of tea. I just had my questions about Cascade because as I said- it was empty, looked very new inside, had stunning dancers who were 5'6''- tall by Thai standards.

seoulmac;

I'm not into katooeys .. it's just that your description of the "tall" girls and the lack of customers initially made it sound like a ladyboy bar. I just did not want you to run into anything you didn't plan for. Empty bars are generally a sign of either a crappy joint or a ladyboy bar. Tall "girls" are also usually a sign of a ladyboy bar. Cascade is probably ok, based on what I read a few weeks ago. It could be empty because it's new and on the 3rd floor. I usually go to Playskook and Rainbow 1, and have not gone to the 3rd floor in quite a while. I know I saw an article that Cascade was the newest addition to the Crown Group. The scheduled opening was slated for March 1st. Sounds like they opened early. I'm sure someone will chime in with some 1st hand experience with some of the girls there.

Member #4351
02-25-03, 17:35
Pahllus Maximus, here's an excellent post by Shadowym (Shadowym) from another site that should help you out:

"I checked out many of the gyms in the Sukhumvit, Siam Square and Patpong area.

My thing is mainly free weights but I also like to use EFX type crosstrainers for cardio.

My findings were as follows:

The Landmark was not too impressive. Nothing special and really too expensive for what you get.

The Meridien was ok. Probably the best in that general area. Good selection of cardio machines but lacking on the free weight stuff. Fairly typical of hotel gyms. As I recall their rates were kinda expensive but not as outrageous as California fitness

Further down the road, the Pan Pacific has a gym way up top in an attic but it was really just an after though from what I remember. Not too expensive but lousy equipment that looked poorly maintained.

Near Washington Square on Soi 20 there is a Clark Hatch fitness center in the Windsor suites hotel. This place was the best value I could find in Bangkok. Relatively cheap for what you get. They do have reasonable drop in rates and a membership gets you access to their other 2 sites around the city. Your up top so you get a not bad view. Their Patpong location was a bit nicer though. Both were kinda small.

The Olympic Club in the Pathumwan Princess hotel(attached to MBK mall) was probably the second best fitness place I could find. Ok selection of free weights and cardio. Spacious and clean with nice upper floor view. Huge Olympic size pool. Not cheap but not as expensive as California fitness.

The best place is California fitness near the Patpong skytrain station. Lots of everything and nice upper floor view of the city. They are expensive though"

AsiaTraveler2
02-26-03, 13:19
Anyone have some interesting places that they would recommend? Something off the beaten path .. eg. Not Nana, Patpong, Soi Cowboy or the Super Soapies. For example, I like Barons, but even that place has been brought up several times. Looking for something new. Don't want to give the impression that I'm tired of the other places .. they are still fun. Just like to add a new twist here and there.

Pahllus Maximus
02-27-03, 02:33
thanks for the replies folks. can someone give an actual price for the various gyms in baht. also, girl friendly dive boats etc - can i pay just a nominal fee if her role is not diving but er, "other duties" ?

and where are the good diving spots, and is this a good season.

from dallas, texas, i sure am looking forward to saying bye to these fat white sows and having some hot & cute little thing giggling and her legs over my shoulders. i am so sick of the bible thumping and hypocrisy.

and i sooooo miss cv2, posiedon and so on. yipee. another 3 days and i am out this place. i am going to be one very badly behaved but happy boy, straight off two girls.

PurpleNGold
02-27-03, 08:07
Originally posted by Pahllus Maximus
Also, girl friendly dive boats etc - can I pay just a nominal fee if her role is not diving but er, "other duties" ?

And where are the good diving spots, and is this a good season.


I've dove in lots of different countries, and have never found a pure dive boat that gave a non-diving member a discount. Diver or non-diver doesn't really change the boats costs because filling up air tanks is relatively free. However, that non-diver eats as much as the diver, and takes up a billet that could be used by a full fare passenger.

The place I've heard about in Thailand is the Similan Islands. As I said, I didn't get to go myself, but friends have gone and have said that it's spectacular.

Good seasons? My research turned up that November - May are good weather months, but that April-May are high tourist times.

IrishLager
02-28-03, 15:16
Asiatraveler2,

There's a place one of the bar girls took me to that I never heard of that no one has seemed to mention. It's a disco called CM2 in Siam Square. It reminded me of HELP in Rio-a bunch of single guys scoping out women looking for gigs for the evening. It was smaller than HELP, but better. They have a live band and then play techno after the band stops, so the music is a bit better. I went there with the bar girl the first night, so I was taken, but I was being grabbed and stared at , so I decided to return solo the next night. I picked up a University student looking to make a few extra baht. Real cute, and quite a tomcat! Lots of super hot Thai girls and a little gang of Russian/Siberian/Eastern European girls looking for gigs, if that's your thing. Anyway, check this place out.

This was my first time to Thailand and I'm absolutely hooked. Wow! The place is total sensory overload. I'm going back in August.

irishlager

AsiaTraveler2
02-28-03, 22:31
Originally posted by irishlager
Asiatraveler2,

There's a place one of the bar girls took me to that I never heard of that no one has seemed to mention. It's a disco called CM2 in Siam Square.

This was my first time to Thailand and I'm absolutely hooked. Wow! The place is total sensory overload. I'm going back in August.

irishlager


Irish ..

I've been there. Yes, it's a cool place and easy to get to. It's actually quite well known, but appreciate the feedback. I agree with you .. Thailand is my favorite destination for "boom boom". There are others that swear by Angeles in the Phillipines, but I have been there numerous times, and BKK is still #1 in my book. It's sensory overload in all aspects .. hot women, hot food, and so many options! Even after you think you've max'd out .. you can call a 24 hour escort service or go to a 24 hour massage place like Sabai Sabai! Too much! Have fun on your August trip!

AT2

Apac Boy
03-01-03, 14:27
samus,
im in china right now...will be in bkk on 3/15...2 more weeks baby.

i dun have ur email...just email me

tapioca1688@hotmail.com

dont know how skinless does it, but japanese hos are ugly

Sabio
03-01-03, 23:45
For those of you who might be interested, there is a current discussion about using fast test kits on the road for prescreening providers for bare-back sex
in the safe sex (under special interests) section.

Lalake
03-02-03, 02:54
AsiaTraveler2:
as for new places...I have a few suggestions:

Gulliver's on Suk Soi 5 is new, and heard good things.

for more expensive tastes, you can try any of the following:

Pent Club on Wireless, off Sukhumvit.
Pegasus near the Narcissus disco on Suk soi 23, which are both member clubs, but are open to all.

Or, even try any of the "artist's bars" on Suk Soi 33. I like going up there for a beer and a game of pool while I can watch some Football. Try Christies and the Office (off the street a bit) for some caual atmosphere. Some of the other bars are full of girls in evening gowns...and all are in bikins during Songkran next month.
cheers,
Lalake

Skinless
03-03-03, 14:47
Skinless in Bangkok. Golden Beach in Soi 1 was booked out. Now in Miamai in Soi 13 (600 bt) Nana tomorrow. (1070 bt, breakfast included. - there are no 1070 bt hotels, onlly 1070 bt punters.. I already scouted Grace Coffe shop (some fatties), Nana (same old faces, they musdt live there long term) and Beergarden (too smoky and lots of second rate women and fat farangs). Skinles was looking for his little f machine (Lek) but no sign of her (I hope she is not being unfaithful just coz i butterflied her. i want to hit Thermae tonight and check out the freelancer scene. Skinless also ordered some suits as a personal treat (Jackson sent me). Speaking of Jackson, isn't it nice of him to provide us with htis forum? Imagine all the time and effort he puts into it and how little he asks in return. He obviously has the BA scene well scoped and we still struggle to do anything useful in LOS.

AsiaTraveler2
03-03-03, 16:36
Originally posted by lalake
AsiaTraveler2:
Gulliver's on Suk Soi 5 is new, and heard good things.

Pent Club on Wireless, off Sukhumvit.
Pegasus near the Narcissus disco on Suk soi 23, which are both member clubs, but are open to all.

Or, even try any of the "artist's bars" on Suk Soi 33. Try Christies and the Office (off the street a bit) for some caual atmosphere. Some of the other bars are full of girls in evening gowns...and all are in bikins during Songkran next month.
cheers,
Lalake

Thanks for the tip on Gulliver's .. I'll try it if I have enough time. It's my last day here. Just got out of Baron's. Got the 2 hour massage and had covered bj and FS. A nice start to my last evening. I've been to Pegasus and Soi 33 before. I've heard about Christies .. seen the ads, but never been there. Where's the office? Sounds familiar, but can't place it? I'll probably get to it on my next trip. Thanks for the info!

AT2

PurpleNGold
03-04-03, 05:04
Originally posted by skinless
Imagine all the time and effort he puts into it and how little he asks in return. He obviously has the BA scene well scoped and we still struggle to do anything useful in LOS.

I'll volunteer to scope the scene for y'all. Just pay for my trip and ladies. I even have a digital camera to use :-)

Skinless
03-04-03, 08:44
Gretings from the Miami Hotel shithole which is right beside the block the army guys demolished: 600 bt, 20 bt every time you use the safety deposit box, 20 bt if my hired ho does not have an ID (oops). Hey, got a cool HIV/STI check up in Burumgrad hospital (1,500 bt). Skinles is in the clear so if you have anyone you want fucked, give me a shout. The doctor was VERY concerned with HIV and warns to have only one sex partner here "We have medicines for chlamydia but none for HIV".
But you assholes aren't itnerested in that. Skinless put in a slid day's prowling: up to 5 am when he took a sweetie long time till 9 am (more on her later). Thermae full of dogs, who wanted too much, Beergarden not to my liking yesterday (a half dog today wanted 100 bt minimum short time at 12 am, no go). 100 bt into Grace Coffee at 2 am, some Russians, some fantastic looking Armenian types (wish I cudda got close), packed with hos after 2 am, they march in droves to it. Lots of freelancers and probably lots more lady boys on Sukumvit after 2 am. They started with big prices but Skinless was not biting. Some funny incidents: saw a 19 yo ho in the hospital with gold dripping from her and a prize 50 ish executive catch: she has struck it rich.


My sweetie: I was only her third farang. She only knew one position (missionary on a starfish) and Skinless could not teach this young pup many new tricks. I tried doggie but a waste of time (me pumped up on V as usual). She was disgusted by the idea of smoking but finally gave me a most pleasant BB one. She has an angelic face and smile, not a beaity but an angel. She got up at 9 am and left. We agreed on 500 bt but I gave her 620. I over paid perhaps (not in comparison gto other chumps) but she was a sweetie. Only a few more days' bonking and then I am finished with it.

Skinless
03-04-03, 16:37
Skinles has now hooked up with Little Lek, world's greatest f machine. She spotted me on my way to Beergarden looking for her. She was oplaying pool nearby wioth some real beauties (all very young). This timsw 30 bt to bring her into Miami Hotel shithole. A wild session, one bonk (V powered), then she makes some excuse to leave. Skinless already told her he had to meet some old male friends. I also broke her necklace (she says 300 bt to get the lump of flimsy shit fixed. ) I paid her 520 bt (so far - there are no 520 bt hos etc). Tonight promises top be eventful with several dates lined up.

I also met one of the Soi Cowbuy bar owners. They will be paid to kill the whole affair but this is serious. The slaying of the drug pushers is only a redistribution of the supply chains in that great industry. Amazing Thailand. The chump is closing the intenret cafe now.

Hotels try to book in advance as I found it impossible to change. Long story why I oculd not go to Nana. Skinless has bonked too many and cannot move without a skeleton ( or f machine) falling out of closet. Gotta go being told to go....

AsiaTraveler2
03-05-03, 02:51
Originally posted by lalake
AsiaTraveler2:
as for new places...I have a few suggestions:

Gulliver's on Suk Soi 5 is new, and heard good things.


lalake;

Tried Gullivers on Soi 5. It's a nice place with a sports bar feel. Alot of the guy's playing pool and watching Soccer. Looks out of place on Soi 5. Unless I missed something though, it did not appear to have much action. All of the girls there, already were hooked up. Just a handful of lookers. Does the action start late? I was there about 10:00pm. I ended up in Soi Cowboy, and ended up with a very nice evening with a cutey from Long Gun. I'm now in Osaka and wishing I were still in BKK!

ThaiFan
03-05-03, 02:52
Gday gentlemen. I have a one night stopover BKK soon. I wish to get the most out of this short stay. I hope to fit in a good massage (any suggestions), then a visit to Eden then after that get a girl for LT. Any advice on best place to get a petite good looking girl thats good for LT? I have spent much time reading this forum and although I am a newbie, it has given me a great insight in to the place. Many thanks guys.

IrishLager
03-05-03, 05:03
Hey fellas,

Wanted to report on my recent trip to LOS in a nutshell-

Had a total of 3 girls-I know, I was tame, but I believe in quality over quantity. Anyway, first girl was from a bar in Nana- very sweet, no upfront negotiations. Stayed overnight, rocked my world a few times, woke up early (9am) and walked her to taxi. Asked what she wanted. She left it up to me, dear thing, so I gave her $2000 Baht and she was stoked. It was well worth it. Some of you may think I overpaid, but she took real good care of me, so I figured I'd take care of her.

2nd girl was a university student looking to make a few extra baht that I picked up in CM2. 24 yrs old, cute, tight body, hardcore Asian features. Rocked me a few times throughout the night. Very skilled and very sweet. Had to wake early to go to class, so I took her to a taxi, gave her $2000 Baht, and she was off.

3rd girl: Met at a bar in Pattaya. Stunning 29 yr old. I fell in love with this one, fellas. She treated me so well and was such fun that I decided to have her as my girlfriend for the 5 days I was in Pattaya. I've not seen an ass like this on any Asian girl before in my life. Anyway, with all the ladyboys running around, and the fact that I didn't see much else that could top this girl, I was content to stay put with her. Gave her $2000 Baht a day over 5 days. 5 days for a little over $200 USD total=not a bad deal at all. I've spent half that on lame ass first dates I've gone on here in the US and been lucky to get so much as a friggin kiss at the end of the night. This girl treated me like a slobbering baby, pampering me and treating me so well, not to mention her just rocking me silly. She not only fucked me, but she made love to me. She was really into it. What a breath of fresh air. I'm moving to Thailand!

JohnnieBravo
03-05-03, 06:08
Irishlager:

Great report! Sounds like exactly what I am looking for. Will be taking my first trip to BKK at the beginning of April and what you described sounded like pure heaven.

Was wondering if anyone had any advice about things NOT to eat....besides the insects...lol. Also, before anybody went to LOS, did they have to or were they concerned about getting any type of vacinations?? Thanks again for all the great advice I see posted on this board I will definately contribute when my time rolls around.

Jodomas
03-05-03, 07:01
JohnnieBravo,

No need to get any vacinations. The only disease you have to be carefull is HIV, so be protected. Vitamin "V" does not comes in IV form. LOL.

Be easy on Thai food the first few days while your system adapts to Thai spices. The three medications I always use in Thailand are Alka Seltzer for the daily hangover, Imodium for the ocasional food poisoning, and Blue Thunder for the nightly routine.

Jodomas

Freeler
03-05-03, 07:26
Jodomas, JohnnieBravo,

'were they concerned about getting any type of vacinations??'

They gawwddamm should be!

Anyone travelling anywhere in Asia, Africa, Central&South-America who doesn't get DTP, Typhoid and HepatitisA&B shots is a fool. Or do you want to catch polio, tetanus or liver-cancer-causers like hepatitis A&B?

JohnnieBravo,

You can eat everything for sale. You sound like a person who will go to an expensive restaurant to eat 'safe' food. BOLLOCKS! They buy their food at the same market as the stalls in the streets. They just sell it at five times the streetstall price!

First your unfounded fear of cockroaches, now a fear for food. Are you sure you are going to the right destination?

Cruk
03-05-03, 08:34
HI ,

Will arrive in Bangkok mid - late April for 4 nights , planing to spend 2 in BKK and 2 in Pattaya - how is the BKK scene currently ? also have seen some debate about all the ugly gals being in Pattaya whilst cuties stay in BKK ...is this 4 real ??

Looking for girl friendly , clean and safe hotel recommendations in both areas - heard gd things about Penthouse in Pattaya - any views from the experts would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance...

A newbie !!

IrishLager
03-05-03, 14:34
good question about the vaccinations.

i didn't get any shots before i left and came back with an intestinal infection that i may have gotten from the water or food or something. i brushed my teeth with the tap water a few times and also dove right into the thai food at the night market stalls the first day i was there. my doc gave me some antibiotics that have cleared it up, but this thing made me think i was gonna die, it hurt so bad, so be careful. i would recommend getting the moon handbook travel guide "healthy travel in asia, africa, and latin america, or something similar from lonely planet. when i got back from thailand, i ordered both from amazon so i can study up on the subject for my trip back to los in august.

as far as girl friendly hotels, i was under the impression that all hotels are girl friendly-they just make the girl leave her id at the front desk. the first 2 nights in bkk, i stayed at le meridien president, which is a pretty nice place, and they let the girl up to my room, no problem. i moved over to grand president on sukhumvit soi 11, and they even went so far as to send a girl up to my room, unrequested. they called and told me there was a lady there to see me. i thought it was the girl i already had, so i told them to send her up, what the hell. i look through my peephole to find a young girl, probably no older than 15. i open the door and she asks me if i want oil massage. i just shook my head at the sight of this poor thing that probably works in the sex slave trade for some crooked dirtbag. i just said no thank you and sent her off. i guess grand president serves as one of those "knock-knock" emporiums, where they try to sell girls to single male guests. i told my 24 yr old girl about it when she was staying with me. she could tell i was a little saddened by it, but she told me not to make such a big deal of it. that's the way it is, and she probably works for her family anyway. it's a different world over there.

Thaipan
03-05-03, 15:23
Good report Irishlager,

I'm back in BKK on the 14th and will be staying at the J W Marriott just round the corner from Nana and can't wait to get back for some Thai fun!

First stop is Eden Club where I have made a booking via their web site for an "Eden Special" 3 some just to limber up for a frantic weekend before heading off to Manila for 5 days business - but I'll be back in BKK the following weeknd on my way home.

Well it did seem a shame to fly over Thailand when I could spend the weekend there!

The count down has begun!

Thaipan

Thaipan
03-05-03, 15:33
Guys a couple of questions,

As I'm making a return trip to BKK next week - so soon yet so far off it seems! I didn't get the chance to try a massage parlour for a soapy and as I'll be staying quite near to Annies I might try it out this trip, time permitting.

1) What is the deal with the fish bowl and then the side line girls?

2) Do you pay the papasan for the massage and then negotiate with the girl for the sex or what?

Looking forward to a fun filled trip!

Angelwitch here I come!

Thaipan

Joe Zop
03-05-03, 16:57
I can't agree with Freeler strongly enough on shots and vaccinations -- anyone who goes to SE Asia without them is a complete idiot. You're far, far more likely to end up with hepatitis than you are AIDS, (the estimate I read said that almost 80% of all hepatitis cases are in Asia, with the infection rate being close to 8% in SE Asia and China, the Philippines, and Korea) with Hep A and E coming from bad food or water (hello? lots of both in LOS) and those and most of the rest acquired by sexual contact (with C being the exception, since it's not absolutely clear how it is spread.) Hep B is the leading cause of liver cancer in the world, and C the leading cause of liver transplants in the US. The CDC recommends all travellers to SE Asia be vaccinated for Hep A & C, rabies, typhoid, and booster shots if needed for tetanus-diphteria, polio and measles.

Cruk -- don't worry, there are plenty of good looking women in both Bangkok and Pattaya, and enough choices around that, especially as a newbie, you're gonna feel like you've died and gone to heaven.

Freeler
03-05-03, 17:17
Thaipan,

Always ask the papasan what they have on offer and don't be shy!
If you want something 'special' pop the question in a casual way or the papasan may smell extra cash.
Tip the girl for extra service(extra nice, extra good, extra effort), not for what you already paid for.

Taodan
03-06-03, 00:43
Originally posted by purplengold
I'll volunteer to scope the scene for y'all. Just pay for my trip and ladies. I even have a digital camera to use :-)

You should add this to the end of your paragraph: No refund. No exceptions

PurpleNGold
03-06-03, 01:37
Well, one exception, I'll return all condoms (used and unused) upon request :)

NoCBJ4Me
03-06-03, 02:05
I will be flying to LOS on Mondaythe 10th. Any recommendations on where to stay for a quiet sleep but not far from the action.

Should I bring cash or travelers checks? Is the exchange rate the same for checks?

Also - I haven't had any vaccinations except tetanus and don't think I can get them in time before I leave. I've been to the Bali and the PI many times with no sickness. I've been careful where I eat and brushed my teeth with bottled water in the past. I will be in LOS for 3 weeks. Any recommendations or advise? Should I get them in Bangkok?

Also, should I bring condoms with me or can I trust the local ones?

Thanks in advance for the help

Marco Pole
03-06-03, 03:55
thai-fan,

a bit of advice on the eden club. i've never tried the online booking, but from my experience at the place, the best time to go is in the early afternoon when it first opens. i visited thailand for the first time back in october, and after reading some really mixed reviews about eden on these boards, i decided to check it out. long story short i had an absolutely amazing experience with two of the hottest chicks i banged on the entire 5 week trip.

however, i went back for another round at about 10pm a few days later and was very disappointed with the selection. it was so bad, i drank a couple beers hoping things would pick up, and when they didn't, i left. it seems to me that the early bird gets the worm at this place.

quick question for anyone with info...

i just got laid off from my job due to downsizing, but recieved a very nice 5 month severance package, so it looks like i'll be heading back to los for my second trip sooner then expected. i've read some rep001tered reports about people picking up university girls and am curious how you go about this. is it just a random occurance or is there a specific location they tend to congregate? i noticed quite a few honeys in and around the hard rock cafe area (near siam) on my last trip. any advice would be appreciated.

thanks
mp

JuiceSpike
03-06-03, 04:45
Marco,

To get university girls: Hard Rock Cafe, Novotell disco (MC2), and a number of other clubs in Bangkok that I forget the names.... check this site for more info under clubs: **************.com

juice

ThaiFan
03-06-03, 04:58
Marco Pole

Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately I dont land at BKK until 2:45pm so probably wont be able to get to Eden until about 5:30pm earliest. Is this considered "early" or do you think I should book? Can you remember the name of the girls (or at least one of them) in case I need to book?

Wouldnt mind getting a student for LT either but I understand it can be very "hit and miss".

Thanks again

Thai Fan

ThaiFan
03-06-03, 05:04
Does anyone know the name of the bar that is first on your left as you walk in to Soi 4 (up some steps to the entrance). I have been recommended a girl there.

Does anyone know anything about the Indra Regent hotel on Rajprarob Road? Is it girl friendly?

I have read that all the hotels will allow girls but some may apply a surcharge and also keep the girls I.D. Do they have the right to refuse and also apply the surcharge?

Jodomas
03-06-03, 05:21
Guys;

All this talk about vaccinations is very alarming. However,
I will be more concern about eating in food stalls with no running water where the same dishes are washed over and over in the same water, raw food seats for hours without refrigeration, and cooked food is preserved by BKK poluted 100 degrees temperature.

jodomas

Freeler
03-06-03, 07:25
Jodomas,

It is NOT alarming if you get your shots!

On food poisoning, check this post in the Chiangmai section:
<02-19-03 20:48>

Your worry about foodpoisoning is unfounded!
Hepatitis A lives happily in bad water but doesn't mind a transfer to your body to mess up your liver.

Get those shots!

PurpleNGold
03-06-03, 07:32
originally posted by marco pole
i've read some rep001tered reports about people picking up university girls and am curious how you go about this. is it just a random occurance or is there a specific location they tend to congregate?

i like using something like yahoo! messenger's chat rooms. there is a thailand room where i've met several 20-25 year olds from bkk, phuket, chiang mai, etc.. next trip, i might not be partaking of the pros :)

Thaipan
03-06-03, 11:34
[quote]originally posted by marco pole
[i]thai-fan,

a bit of advice on the eden club. i've never tried the online booking, but from my experience at the place, the best time to go is in the early afternoon when it first opens. i visited thailand for the first time back in october, and after reading some really mixed reviews about eden on these boards, i decided to check it out. long story short i had an absolutely amazing experience with two of the hottest chicks i banged on the entire 5 week trip.

however, i went back for another round at about 10pm a few days later and was very disappointed with the selection. it was so bad, i drank a couple beers hoping things would pick up, and when they didn't, i left. it seems to me that the early bird gets the worm at this place.

>>>i agree with you 100% marco pole, my booking is for 1pm, ie as soon as they open!<<<

quick question for anyone with info...

i just got laid off from my job due to downsizing, but recieved a very nice 5 month severance package, so it looks like i'll be heading back to los for my second trip sooner then expected. i've read some rep001tered reports about people picking up university girls and am curious how you go about this. is it just a random occurance or is there a specific location they tend to congregate? i noticed quite a few honeys in and around the hard rock cafe area (near siam) on my last trip. any advice would be appreciated.

>>>as far as students are concerned, try this web site, there have been some recent posts on the subject by uniform guy, hope that you have fun, i intend to!!! :-)<<<

http://board2.nanaplaza.com/ubbthreads.php?

thaipan

Thaipan
03-06-03, 11:37
Originally posted by Freeler
Thaipan,

Always ask the papasan what they have on offer and don't be shy!
If you want something 'special' pop the question in a casual way or the papasan may smell extra cash.
Tip the girl for extra service(extra nice, extra good, extra effort), not for what you already paid for.

Thanks Freeler, I'm not shy! :-)

Thaipan

PosterLion
03-06-03, 12:26
Here is a website for the health conscience: http://www.cdc.gov/travel/seasia.htm

Personally, I've never gotten these vaccines and I've just had my physical. No problems. But I am considering the preventative measures for Hep after reading the above mentioned website.

Last time in Thailand, I picked up a sour stomach in Chaing Mai. But then I ate street food at least once a day due to hanging with a group of people that worked in one of the local massage places. Man, they eat all kinds of things constantly, including bugs of many varieties. Well, I tried everything put in front of me. Most of it was good.

However, I did catch some sour stomach that lasted one day. The TG was also a good nurse. I gave her about 200 baht and she came back with a pharmacy of drugs with instructions on what and when to take them. I was fine in about 24 hours, no problem. It did not keep me from going out and about. It was just an annoyance. I also got this one time in Istanbul. But so did my friend that lives there.

Well, I am off to BKK on April 1st, with or without the vaccines. I think I might have time to get them so that they will be effective. I'd say it is a good idea.

I wouldn't call anyone an idiot for going without them, but, I got no problem calling myself one. LOL...

norok!
poster...

Joe Zop
03-06-03, 17:29
Glad you've made it ok, posterlion, hope that continues, and of course many people manage to travel and not catch anything, in the same way there are many people who go condomless and end up ok. I consider the latter idiots as well :) But I just don't see the percentages in betting you're not going to be one of the one in a hundred (or whatever -- made up statistic alert) who gets something when you're going to a place where the risks are documented as being substantially higher. It's pretty much a one-stop thing to do -- except for the full Hepatitis spread, which involves at least two and generally three shots -- and you generally end up protected for many, many years. (If you travel a bunch the yellow fever vaccine also makes sense to be added into the mix, as that's the one not recommended by the CDC for SE Asia that becomes important elsewhere.) And you protect not only you but those who come in contact with you. Some people never change their oil and manage not to ruin their cars, but it's not exactly the smart way to go. Why risk a very heavy downside when it's such a simple thing?

Like you, I ate street food constantly and rarely had problems, though I did have a couple. Not enough to discourage, certainly, as the things you can get by the side of the road are amazing and wonderful. And it's not like I can't run into food that disagrees with me at home, as well.

Thaipan
03-06-03, 19:08
I think it is prudent to be vacinated, you never know what you are going to get till you get it! I keep a "vacination passport" that keeps me up to date with all of mine but have to say that despite the full course of 3 Hep B vacinations + 2 boosters I never came up to the immunity level required so I gave up before I became a walking pin cushion! MY doctor recommed that I would have a reasonable degree of immunity.

Thaipan

Freeler
03-06-03, 19:12
Thaipan,


<As far as students are concerned,...>

Well, schoolgirl uniforms, socks, skirt and blouse (who needs the rest, LOL) are for sale in many shops for B300-800. Add some shoes, pay another B200-400...

Must be the cheapest fetish around, apart from naked girl fetish...

Marco Pole
03-07-03, 01:24
Thanks for the websites (**************/nana boards). Hadn't seen those before. Great Info.

One thing I noticed, and I'd heard about on my last trip but didn't visit, is the RCA entertainment district. From what I've been able to gather it's a big party spot for the late teen market. Anyone been there that can provide some insight? Sounds like a great spot to meet some hottie college chicks.

Thanks
MP

JohnnieBravo
03-07-03, 01:36
purplengold:

I have often wondered about trying to chat some girls up on yahoo or icq beforehand. I am glad to see you mentioned doing this. Could you please elaborate on the experiences you've had with this.......any problems??

I guess I will only have time to get the intial spead of hepititas A&B before I leave for BKK at the end of the month, but at least I will get the full Typhoid.

I have read that there are problems with the clubs Rainbow I and II anybody out there have any experiece with this?

Posterlion: I will be in BKK around the same time as you. Have you ever been there around this time of year before. Also have you ever checked out Songkran, I hear it's supposed to be a blast, especially in Pattaya.

JuiceSpike
03-07-03, 01:48
Marco,

The RCA district is mostly for "upscale" teen or twenty something crowd and not for "working college" girls. You may find one here and there but hookers don't like to hangout with regular Thais in this area. You are better off with the places shown in that website I suggested. Also check out this website for more clubs info: bkkmetro.com

Another club good for college girls and girls with day jobs is the Ministry of Sound (soi 23?). When you find one bargain hard. Some girls because they are pretty and speak good English may want a lot. Bargain hard and if they like you, you will be OK.


juice.

PurpleNGold
03-07-03, 01:51
JohnnieBravo,

I've only met one girl I talked to online. That was on my first (and, so far, only) trip to LOS. She was not the best looker. And, not overly thin (not really fat, just bigger than average). But, she was okay on the eyes and really sweet.

Chatted with her starting a couple days prior to my departure for BKK and she was quite anxious to meet. When we did meet, she brought one of her girlfriends (I assume this was for safety). I didn't mind because they both treated me really well.

Anyway, there wasn't any sex involved. But, we did make out quite a bit. And, we slept together cuddled up with one of my hands between her legs and the other underneath her bra.

Anyway, I wasn't really in BKK for a relationship I that was gonna have to work at in order to get some play, so I moved on. She still IM's me, but I don't really plan on going back to see her. There are just too many other TG's out there.

Now, I just get on the Yahoo! chat room for Thailand and start up random conversations with girls (after looking at there profile pics). To date, I have 6 different, non-pros, with whom I am in regular contact. They are all under 25. I've seen numerous pictures of them all (no nudes yet) along with video chat, and they are all very attractive. Their written english is typically better than average. And, after using the microphone, I can say that they mostly have good spoken english as well. Most of them have been to schools for english or are in school currently.

I've been honest with all of them concerning my intentions of dating more than one girl. While, only one has stated that she could care less and only wants to have a good time, none of them have stopped talking to me because of my stated 'butterfly-ness'. They all understand that I am shopping around for a girlfriend, but don't want to settle yet. They are all promising to spend romantic time with me when I make it back to LOS. I can't be guaranteed of sex. But, who knows? Maybe they'll try hard to make me want to settle down :-)

PosterLion
03-07-03, 05:25
Joe_Z,

Gracias amigo. I am glad I have made it this far too! Normally, I am a lurker on this board. But this was a topic I knew where the information was located. A contribution, wow! hahaha. I try my best to not go condomless but I have failed at that twice in my mongering career. Before mongering, I think I wore a condom one time, the first time. After that, nada. But you must understand the circumstance. I grew up in the country in Oklahoma. It is much like the place the TG gals come from to work in the BIG City. Like them, I now live in BIG cities. I just noticed that I am rambling, dry white vino does this to me. So does Thai whiskey for that matter. Random question, uno, dos, tres: what is your favorite... er, um, soapie place in BKK? I’ve never yet been to one.

Thaipan,

so... all those trips to the doc for nada? bummer! I hope I will not have the same story to tell.

Freeler,

I like that school girl look man. Hey, I’m catholic! :)

MP,

In my limited experience, everything in Thailand is a major party spot!

Johnnie B,

Quit wondering about it, do it man! I use ICQ all the time. I have been to BKK twice. In other words, not many times. I met 8 girls the first time I went. It was way too many! This is because I was only there for 9 days. The first one I met picked me up at the airport. Then, she took me to Pattaya the next day. Then to the Grand Palace upon return. She now is married to a guy in NZ, where she now lives. At the time I was in BKK, she worked for KSC internet. I got a free KSC Tshirt out of the deal. Also, we slept in the KSC Pattaya office building. A great first time hotel. :) I tell you this! If you meet up with gals from ICQ you will never pay for a meal. The BKK girls are way to nice! That sounds like a bargirl saying, “I love you to much”, doesn’t it? Anyway, purplengold has a sound strategy with chat rooms and instant messengers. If it were not for ICQ I'd have never started traveling. I have used it to meet girls from 13 countries since November 1999. It rocks man!

The last thing, I have been in BKK in October and November, never April. I am bracing for the heat! Is this the time of year when the ballooning starts? If I remember correctly, it is at this time. Hey man, wanna hook up for some cervesas? I’ll be at the Majestic.

PurpleNgold,

You’ll settle down as long as you don’t become a true punter. I am not saying I have the exact definition. I was thinking about it the other day.

Here’s a question for the board!

A couple of ideas I thought of:

1) You are a true punter when you keep your viagra in your carry on... No, I mean in your front pocket.

2) You are a true punter when you enjoy catching the TGs (or any girls) at their tricks.
Like taking you to the mall and getting pictures, then sending them to a chap in the UK as a gift. Or, taking you to check email and you sit and wait while the translator responds to her messages. Or... fill in the blank. :)

3) You are a true punter when you have 38 dollars and zero vacation and you are planning a trip to Thailand.

Feel free to add to the list!

norok!
poster...

Joe Zop
03-07-03, 06:14
Posterlion -- to tell the truth, I really don't have a favorite soapy place in Bangkok. I've been to a few, but it's really not my scene, as I prefer longer time sessions in an environment I control, and it's just so easy to pick up ladies in the Big Durian. But there are many, many soapy fans here who I'm sure will chime in on this one.

PosterLion
03-07-03, 06:43
joe_zop,

well, i was looking for a change of pace. i've done the long and long thing before, but, i'll only be in BKK one week this trip. I thought I'd try the other side this time.

who know's what might happen. maybe, i'll meet a girl in a SCHOOLGIRL uniform and I'll accept it this time. :)

boy, that stuff can scare the life out of you. I still remember her smiling face on my first visit. She stamped her feet up and down... "Make Love to me? Make love to me now!" You ever had that happen? I bet you'll never forget it!

poster...

PurpleNGold
03-07-03, 08:00
Originally posted by posterlion

who know's what might happen. maybe, i'll meet a girl in a SCHOOLGIRL uniform and I'll accept it this time. :)

boy, that stuff can scare the life out of you. I still remember her smiling face on my first visit. She stamped her feet up and down... "Make Love to me? Make love to me now!" You ever had that happen? I bet you'll never forget it!

Did I miss a post or something? If that's scary, I hope I end up in a nightmare sometime!

Thaipan
03-07-03, 12:35
Originally posted by Freeler
Thaipan,


<As far as students are concerned,...>

Well, schoolgirl uniforms, socks, skirt and blouse (who needs the rest, LOL) are for sale in many shops for B300-800. Add some shoes, pay another B200-400...

Must be the cheapest fetish around, apart from naked girl fetish...

Try the Dolls house I think they are in Soi Cowboy and if Clinton Plaza is still open they have a place there too!

http://www.thedollhouseagogo.com/girls.shtml

Have fun!

Thaipan

Thaipan
03-07-03, 12:37
Originally posted by posterlion

Thaipan,

so... all those trips to the doc for nada? bummer! I hope I will not have the same story to tell.

poster...

Yeah I did feel a bit like a damn pin cushion but the nurse was nice!

Thaipan

PosterLion
03-07-03, 23:34
purplengold,

Hahahahaha! Exacto! I think the scary part is the realization of an oncoming addiction. :)

ginkgo
03-08-03, 00:07
Thanks to all you posters in LOS for the great tips!

Just want to give back a bit with this newbie report on a short 36 hr layover in BKK last month.

Traveling through SE Asia stopped in BKK overnight. Decided to soothe my aching body with body massages. Booked a room at the Emerald on Ratchadapisek $33/night internet rate- a real bargain. Short taxi ride there ran only 190 B.

First stop was strictly massage. Downstairs across the street is Nataree. Left side entrance massage only, right side- full service soapy. At 2pm a bit early, only two in the fishbowl, but picked a beautiful TG from Chiang Mai, little English, maybe 22. Trad Thai massage is 400 B 2hrs, oil is 600 B 2 hrs. went with oil

Escorted to the room, huge tub with adjoining bed area- room was neat and tidy, nothing fancy. paid the charges, drink service attendant comes- you buy yours and hers. She coyly takes off her skirt and wraps a towel around her waist. I strip down and lie on the bed. Not knowing the procedure, she whips out her box of oil, soap and goodies.

Begins a great massage. strong hand and fingers, deep tissue rubbing, from toe to head and more. excellent technique and well-trained. includes some Thai trad methods. By the time she gets to my abdomen, am quite obviously rigid. She asks if it needs further service there, I decline for now, not sure if a big tip is needed.

Then to the bath. I'm flat on my back, she sits outside and proceeds to wash me bottom to top. Goes on for a good 20 mins till I'm squeaky clean. Straight massage, real pro with a beautiful, beautiful face as she is rubbing your chest. Excellent handwork and does the trick, am totally relaxed and loose.

Back to the hotel for a quick bite, then taxi to Poseidon-one of the major MPs along Ratchada. its about 5pm getting on to prime time. second floor fishbowl room has maybe 30 or so and some arriving as I look on. 1900 B, 2200 B for 2 hrs to the left, all decked in sexy see through lounge wear topless and thongs. Guite stunning to see 30 or more sitting on rows and all looking at you. Outside the sideliners sit in street clothes, you can go up and chat with them if you like. Low-key papa-sans check you out and saunter by to ask your favors- most seem pretty cool, no high-pitch sale, just look and take your time. They make recommendations.

Decide to check upstairs and the model lounge where the primo TGs hang. Bar like lounge, with model sitting area. Service is by mature mama-sans who come to take your drink order and take a look at you. Give her your specs, she'll point out a few here and there. ordered one bit taller and with English, she brings out a just -arrived to my table. we have a short chat sipping beer. 2900B, 3500 B, on up and up. 1.5 hrs

Up front payment by Visa is no problem, then escorted to the upstairs rooms. Poseidon is a huge structure with many floors above- landed in a simulated pharoah's den. nice appointments, sofa, table, bed and big tub.
drink service comes, is tipped, and here we go.

Stunning body, age 22, from BKK seems like college girl. light making out, enough to get you excited then strip down and into the tub. loads of soapy bubbles, she sits between your legs as you are stretched flat out on your back and proceeds to massage you with her firm and perfect breasts. I guess this is the BKK slide.
washed with soap top to bottom with high focus on your dick.

Out of the tub and she towel dries you. Now for the bed session. A bit routine, usual positions, with a sincerity that felt acted out. all very nice and pleasant, but certainly business. not quite the GFE I had hoped for. After coming, back into the tub for wash off. then relaxing together on the bed, light back rub but far from professional grade or strength.

Gave her a tip- 200B, generous for what was served but what the heck. Headed back down to the fishbowl to cool out before leaving. Yes, the model girls are class A beauties compared with standard issue. Even suggested going upstairs to a newcomer who couldn't decide.

Maybe I'll try a sideliner next time.

The systems all neat and tidy most clientele are Asians, from Singapore, Japan or Chinese. didn't see a farang while there.

Part 2 coming up

SexReview
03-08-03, 03:18
Originally posted by Thaipan
Try the Dolls house I think they are in Soi Cowboy and if Clinton Plaza is still open they have a place there too!

http://www.thedollhouseagogo.com/girls.shtml
.
Have fun!

Thaipan

The Dollhouse at Clinton Plaza is closed and has been for a while now. When I was in Bangkok in early January they had already closed that location.

AsiaTraveler2
03-08-03, 11:39
Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
I have read that there are problems with the clubs Rainbow I and II anybody out there have any experiece with this?


Johnnie;

I have been to both a number of times, and I have never had a problem. Anything specific you have heard?

AT2

Duniawala
03-08-03, 19:50
Dollhouse is definetly closed . It was in operation when I was there 1st week of Jan, but no sign of it in mid February. Clinton plaza is now nothing more than a few bars and such. It seems Softel is planning to build ahotel there but the current street level bars have another two yaers to go on their lease and are refusing to vacate. So they are stuck.

Anyway, on my last trip tried Penagra. i picked up a 4-pack for $1.50 in India and I have nothing but praise for it. Man, it was goood. Lasted all night. The drawback, extremely difficult to cum.

Picked up am Ukrainian on the last night there just to sample another nationailty. lousy f....k. But then again it was just one girl so it was just my luck to pick this one up.

Enjoy. Next time hopefully in a couple of months I will be in BKK.

Seydlitz
03-08-03, 20:33
I am about to get to BKK with a newbee friend who might want to see one of these sex shows (you know, the darts & banana routine).

Since the last time I saw one of these was when the previous Bush generation was in the White House (and I found it lame and lousy enough), I wonder if there is one particular location that might be recommended.

Any suggestion ? Thanks in advance.

SexReview
03-08-03, 21:47
Originally posted by Seydlitz
I am about to get to BKK with a newbee friend who might want to see one of these sex shows (you know, the darts & banana routine).
I wonder if there is one particular location that might be recommended.
Any suggestion ? Thanks in advance.

The only place you can still always find the shows is Patpong. Every trip over the last few years I found them at Patpong. Sometimes limited shows can be found at Soi Cowboy or Nana but Patpong is the place. You will find the shows in the clubs on the second floor. Super P had a good show last time I was there. That is if anyone could think these shows were good, I too find them to be lame.

JohnnieBravo
03-08-03, 23:33
Asiatraveler2:

I am a LOS newbie so your experieces should be taken far more seriously then what I have read. All that aside, I read on a couple of Thailand boards that Rainbow I and II should be avoided because it was claimed that once a bar girl was bar fined, she would "get lost" not to be seen again. Also was alledged by someone else that more drink slips ended up in his bowl when he went to the restroom then drinks he had consumed. When he complained he got the bouncer treatment. Again, have not experieced this stuff personally, but sounded kind of scary in the post. Just posted it to see if anyone else had a problem like this with these clubs. If not, then I'm sure I'll check them out when I am in the LOS.

JohnnieBravo
03-08-03, 23:46
One more quick question, again, excuse my newbie ignorance, but is there any casino action to be had at all in BKK or the LOS anywhere??

PosterLion
03-09-03, 00:19
I recently heard of a place called Gulliver's Travels on Khaosan Rd. It is suppossed to be a pub type bar where there are possibilities with freelancers. Anyone have any info on this place?

For that matter, any info on Khaosan Rd would be appreciated. I have a map that shows the road to be near the National Gallery. Is this the same road?

thanks in advance,
poster...

Joe Zop
03-09-03, 00:21
There are no casinos in Thailand, so if you want one you'll need to head to Cambodia, Malaysia, Burma or Laos, all of which have them. Gambling in general is illegal in LOS (though there is supposedly a booming illegal betting scene) except for horse racing. There are a couple of tracks near Bangkok, I believe, and others elsewhere.

PurpleNGold
03-09-03, 00:23
What about betting on Boxing?

Joe Zop
03-09-03, 02:40
Done a lot, of course, just not legally.

Freeler
03-09-03, 07:58
JohnnieBravo,

'she would "get lost" not to be seen again.'

That is one of the reasons why I prefer to let the girl barfine herself. Is everything OK, she gets her money back.

Joe_zop,

Master of One-liners:D

AsiaTraveler2
03-09-03, 08:05
Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
One more quick question, again, excuse my newbie ignorance, but is there any casino action to be had at all in BKK or the LOS anywhere??

None that I know of. There's illegal gambling at the Thai kick boxing matches. Would not recommend it. You'll probably get taken .. they know the scene far better than you. The other general comment I have regarding the gambling in Asia .. it's very different from the Las Vegas scene. Las Vegas is more entertaining and laid back. In Asia, the gambling scene is very serious (business like). I've gambled in Seoul, Tokyo, Macau, Phillipines, and Hong Kong to name a few. I did it for the experience, but did not enjoy it much. Very sterile environments .. serious faces .. odds stacked against you .. etc. etc.

Also regarding the Rainbow Bars .. never had any experiences like you described. Only good things to say about the girls I have had there. Of course .. with only a dozen or so bar fines, I could just be lucky! Have fun!

AT2

AsiaTraveler2
03-09-03, 08:13
Originally posted by posterlion
I recently heard of a place called Gulliver's Travels on Khaosan Rd. It is suppossed to be a pub type bar where there are possibilities with freelancers. Anyone have any info on this place?

I'm wondering if it's part of a chain. There's a place called Gulliver's on Suk. Soi 5. It was recommended by someone else on this board. I stopped by about 5-6 days ago. It's a sports pub. Not sure if the waitresses were on the menu, but I saw some free lancers. Most were already hooked up with guys, so not sure if they just followed them over or were picked up there. I went in about 10:00pm. Not sure if the action picks up later. You can't miss the place, since it's got a huge lighted neon sign out front on the 2nd floor. Pool tables, big screen, large bar, restaurant area, etc. I think they had darts as well. Nice place, but did not look like there was much action there. I'll check it out again, at a later date and time.

AT2

PurpleNGold
03-09-03, 08:59
Originally posted by Freeler
JohnnieBravo,

'she would "get lost" not to be seen again.'

That is one of the reasons why I prefer to let the girl barfine herself. Is everything OK, she gets her money back.

Joe_zop,

Master of One-liners:D

So, you get the girl to pay her bar fine up front and then, reimburse her at the end of your session? Do the girls ever balk at this? And, if one does, do you pass on her?

Freeler
03-09-03, 10:01
PNP,

If they like me, they pay the BF.
If they don't want to pay the BF, they don't like me.
So what, plenty more fish in the sea!

During my last three tours of 6, 4 and 6 weeks, I BF'd only four ladies and all paid the BF, no-one refused. Well, one of them did - she had no money at all, but mamasan took care of it.

They know it will be OK. I have 'good heart':)!

AsiaTraveler2
03-09-03, 20:04
Originally posted by purplengold
So, you get the girl to pay her bar fine up front and then, reimburse her at the end of your session? Do the girls ever balk at this? And, if one does, do you pass on her?

I would just pay the barfine. I have never gotten ripped off by any of the TG's in BKK. I know it does happen, but that's very rare. You always have recourse with the Bar, by going back and complaining if the girl does a disappearing act. Finally .. we are talking about 500-600 baht, depending on which bar you are at. That's $12.50-$15.00. Not the end of the world, if it does not work out. You are actually better off, since you will probably end up with someone better, who will want to rock your world. The girls you want, are those that either like you or want to earn a nice tip! They will not disappear on you. They make up the majority of the girls I have experienced in BKK. Have fun!

Toosh
03-09-03, 20:18
Asiatraveler2,

It seems to me that the more attractive girls who know they will get barfined by somebody would pretty much scoff at that idea. I would also think that they would probably see that as a warning signal that this person may be a problem from their point of view just as we look for warning signals ourselves. Having said that, I do not mean to imply that Freeler is problem person. I would have difficulty seeing that approach work with me. Maybe Freeler is just one of those people who can get away with that whereas for somebody like me it just would not work.

AsiaTraveler2
03-09-03, 20:31
Originally posted by Toosh
Asiatraveler2,

It seems to me that the more attractive girls who know they will get barfined by somebody would pretty much scoff at that idea.

Toosh;

I agree with you. I guess my post was not clear. Freeler posted about having the girls pay the barfine. I trust the girls, and my statement was that I would just pay the barfine myself, and not worry. I have never had a problem in BKK, so I don't see why you need to get the girl to pay. The barfine is such a small amount, that even if the girl did do a disappearing act, it would not be a big deal.

AT2

Freeler
03-09-03, 22:10
Gentlemen,


It's NOT about how much money it is to YOU, but to the GIRL.

If she decides to quit or has the gawddammed monthly sii deang, she will NOT barfine herself, because she will lose the money.

PurpleNGold
03-09-03, 22:22
I like the approach Freeler suggests. And, given the fact that he is the acknowledged leader in getting the best deals, I'll take the advice. I'm going to try this next time I get to BKK.

Any more Freeler tactics tips?

Skinless
03-10-03, 05:34
Barfines now touch 800 bt, no big deal!!
Freeler, I already gave out Lek's mobile but I fear she has become more mercenary of late. Also, she looks very young and does not pack ID (anymore). I actually got into a fight over her at Thermae with two drunk British lumps of garbage. So maybe not for you.

Sushi/sashimi: should not be eaten in warm weather but, if it is, a different sake should be used to accompany if (if you are going to do things right). Eating on the street: food poisoning is a real possibility (and inside as well). This applies particularly with no running water and meat and other stuff being out in the sun. That said, better go Thai than brfing your f machine to one of those European restauarants. I saw a lady slicing a fried egg with her knife. Bring hr to a Thai restaurant, then bring her home and eat her.
This has been a J Skinless dining tip.

AsiaTraveler2
03-10-03, 08:49
Originally posted by Freeler
Gentlemen,


It's NOT about how much money it is to YOU, but to the GIRL.

If she decides to quit or has the gawddammed monthly sii deang, she will NOT barfine herself, because she will lose the money.

Freeler;

I understand your point, but I have never gotten burned, so I don't see any reason for it. If it works for you great! You may also lose a girl here and there, but you go with the theory that there's plenty more fish in the sea .. and I always like my first choices. Your way works for you and my way works for me. If I do get burned somewhere down the line .. no big deal. The $12 not a whole lot to worry about. That was my point. Everyone has their own views .. there's no right answer. Just depends on how you want to approach it. There's a 1,000 more girls than guys .. any strategy will work!

AT2

Thaipan
03-10-03, 19:45
Originally posted by sexreview
The Dollhouse at Clinton Plaza is closed and has been for a while now. When I was in Bangkok in early January they had already closed that location.

Thanks sexreview! I had a feeling it was on the way out last year but there is another Dolls house in Soi Cowboy.

Thaipan

Thaipan
03-10-03, 19:47
Originally posted by posterlion
I recently heard of a place called Gulliver's Travels on Khaosan Rd. It is suppossed to be a pub type bar where there are possibilities with freelancers. Anyone have any info on this place?

For that matter, any info on Khaosan Rd would be appreciated. I have a map that shows the road to be near the National Gallery. Is this the same road?

thanks in advance,
poster...

I think it is just known as Gullivers and it is on Soi 5. Hope this helps

Thaipan

Thaipan
03-10-03, 19:49
Originally posted by Freeler
Gentlemen,


It's NOT about how much money it is to YOU, but to the GIRL.

If she decides to quit or has the gawddammed monthly sii deang, she will NOT barfine herself, because she will lose the money.

100% right Freeler!

Thaipan

Phuquer
03-10-03, 20:07
Was in LOS a couple of weeks ago. When I was there, Rainbow 2 had the hottest chicks in all of Nana, by far! Pretty, and not old (actually, they had a couple of 17 yos. there when I was there). BF is 500baht, not 600 as some have said before. I wasn't impressed by Angelwitch at all. After reading some of the messages on the board, I was disappointed. Nice uniforms, but not so pretty faces. Grace Coffee Shop had some hotties. Check in the bowling alley and pool room. I would avoid the freelancers on Suk. Rd. They were looking kind of nasty when I was there. There was a much better selection last year. A good place to find "regular girls" is in MBK. Easy to strike up a conversation with them and ask them out. If any of you guys get to Pattaya, stop by Superbabies and check out #37 (Maak). She is HOT!!! I'll post a trip report later this week. Have fun, and stay safe.

Freeler
03-10-03, 20:38
Asiatraveler2,

I see your point(s) in both replies. Boring, isn't it, when people agree:).

Thaipan,

I know, I know:D!

PNP,

Familiarize yourself with prices ASAP! That is the biggest tip on good bargaining.
There is always a kind of balance between prices. A short busride and a cup of coffee often cost about the same.
But in Pattaya the bus is B5 and the coffee is B20. This should get you thinking about other prices in Pattaya...
Taxi's are often 10-15 times the price of a busride along the same route. So a taxi from BKK airport to the city centre should be appr. 10-15 times B18, or B300 max. For B500 you should be in a limo!
Etc!

JohnnieBravo,

You will probably get the runs one day or the other, but food poisoning is a different story. The runs means: take two loperamide's and you're as good as new.
Foodpoisoning (=salmonella poisoning) means: 3 days in hospital with tubes up your nose and needles in your arms...
Get the loperamide in Thailand at B1 or 2 a pill. Don't buy the fourpacks, they are way tooooo expensive.
Loperamine pills are dark green/ light green.

If you have diarrhea, ask yourself these questions:

1- is it rainy weather/very humid? - Far more bacteria then usual in the air;
2- is my room too cold (aircon) or did I have a lot of cold drinks? - your stomach is just 'upset';
3- did I burn my skin in the sun? - explained in a ChiangMai post;
4- do I have wounds (partly 'skinless' after an accident)? - bacteria get in easily and mess up your system.
Then blame these causes, not the food.
1 and 2: Just sit them out.
For 3 and 4 you may want to get antibiotics.

If this is true: Your diarrhea is slimy, and you are really ill, as in:'I wish I was dead!'. - Blame the food! See a doctor ASAP!
But this will N-O-T happen...

Freeler
03-10-03, 20:46
Ffnantes,

A to Q1: Money buys everything.
A to Q2: You ought to check out Skinless' and my reports in the OtherArea section.
Search for Pilok and Korat.

Joe Zop
03-10-03, 21:48
Freeler -- your post on causes of diarrhea is excellent, but I would also note that in addition to unfamiliar bacteria running around in the air, through wounds or via sunburn, it's also eminently possible to get it via food, properly prepared or not. Let's face it, there are lots of spices and things unfamiliar to many people's systems, and people react differently to them. This does not mean, as you aptly note, that you're getting food poisoning, but it can cause temporary diarrhea. As I said once before -- big deal, that can happen at home as well. Everyone eats things that don't completely agree with them, and anyone can get an irritated stomach lining -- that's no reason to be fearful or to leep from doing anything. Immodium or pepto or whatever should be a common item in any traveller's kit in any event.

PurpleNGold
03-10-03, 23:52
Food posoning/diahrea from the food in a foreign country can happen even thought there's nothing 'wrong' with the food. It's just a matter of different bacteria that your body doesn't know what to do with.

Foreigners coming here can go to a 5 star restaurant, eat a perfectly prepared meal, and come down with an upset stomach and/or diahrea.

Visitors to Mexico are often warned about Montezuma's Revenge. This is the same thing we're talking about here, and it's not something you get from eating spoiled food. In fact, split a taco with a local. You might come down with the illness, but the local won't have any problems because her immune system is already adapted.

Taodan
03-11-03, 00:15
Originally posted by Phuquer
Was in LOS a couple of weeks ago. When I was there, Rainbow 2 had the hottest chicks in all of Nana, by far! Pretty, and not old (actually, they had a couple of 17 yos. there when I was there). BF is 500baht, not 600 as some have said before.

How much for ST or LT? When I was at Rainbow II, I were going to barfine a nice chick there but she wanted 3,000bahts for LT. I rejected and left the club.

PurpleNGold
03-11-03, 00:21
taodan,

When I went to Rainbow II, back at the end of January, I picked up a girl for LT for 2500baht LT. That was at 8:00PM, so it might come down later in the evening. Also, I am just starting the 'Freeler Bargaining Course', so I might have paid too much. But, she was definitely a hottie, and fun in the sack.

Member #4530
03-11-03, 09:39
Am seeking info on availability of viagra (and equivalents) in BKK? Are veetabs still available? What is the latest generic? Where can I get some?

thanks much
waffles

Thaipan
03-11-03, 15:29
Originally posted by Phuquer
Was in LOS a couple of weeks ago. When I was there, Rainbow 2 had the hottest chicks in all of Nana, by far! Pretty, and not old (actually, they had a couple of 17 yos. there when I was there). BF is 500baht, not 600 as some have said before. I wasn't impressed by Angelwitch at all. After reading some of the messages on the board, I was disappointed. Nice uniforms, but not so pretty faces. Grace Coffee Shop had some hotties. Check in the bowling alley and pool room. I would avoid the freelancers on Suk. Rd. They were looking kind of nasty when I was there. There was a much better selection last year. A good place to find "regular girls" is in MBK. Easy to strike up a conversation with them and ask them out. If any of you guys get to Pattaya, stop by Superbabies and check out #37 (Maak). She is HOT!!! I'll post a trip report later this week. Have fun, and stay safe.

I have visited Angelwitch several times but I guess that all good things change, I'll check it out this friday, yes this friday and Rainbow 2 as well.

You have to watch out with the freelancers on Suk Rd as a lot of them are ladyboys!

Thaipan

Thaipan
03-11-03, 15:43
Originally posted by taodan
How much for ST or LT? When I was at Rainbow II, I were going to barfine a nice chick there but she wanted 3,000bahts for LT. I rejected and left the club.

I usually only take girls ST and will settle for between 1000 - 1500 Baht, top end only if they are exceptional and if I have fun with them as well.

TP

Philo
03-11-03, 16:58
Originally posted by thaifan Does anyone know the name of the bar that is first on your left as you walk in to Soi 4 (up some steps to the entrance). I have been recommended a girl there. Does anyone know anything about the Indra Regent hotel on Rajprarob Road? Is it girl friendly? I have read that all the hotels will allow girls but some may apply a surcharge and also keep the girls I.D. Do they have the right to refuse and also apply the surcharge?
1. The bar is called Morning Night

2. Be happy if they take her ID and also write her name in a protocol (then you know she will not run away with your things......)

3. Pay the joiner fee or change hotel

ph

Phuquer
03-11-03, 18:21
Originally posted by taodan
How much for ST or LT? When I was at Rainbow II, I were going to barfine a nice chick there but she wanted 3,000bahts for LT. I rejected and left the club.

She wanted 2500, but I dropped it to 2000 for LT. She wouldn't go a dime lower, and I really wanted her. I would have walked, too, but my friends had already chosen hot chicks, and I didn't want to be left alone. :) It was a good experience, though. She rocked my world. If I could remember her darn name, I would let you know. She was so cute!!!

Phuquer
03-11-03, 18:25
Originally posted by Thaipan
I usually only take girls ST and will settle for between 1000 - 1500 Baht, top end only if they are exceptional and if I have fun with them as well.

TP

She might have taken less for ST, but they wanted me to take her to the hotel across the street, as they wanted her back fast. I figure for a few baht more, I could take my time with her. So I decided on LT. Have fun at Nana this Friday! Wish I could join you! If you see her, tell her "Hi!". She is one of the light skinned girls with big boobies, and a bit on the young side (about 19). Very cute she is! :D:D:D Enjoy, and be safe!!!

Thaipan
03-11-03, 19:11
Originally posted by Phuquer
She might have taken less for ST, but they wanted me to take her to the hotel across the street, as they wanted her back fast. I figure for a few baht more, I could take my time with her. So I decided on LT. Have fun at Nana this Friday! Wish I could join you! If you see her, tell her "Hi!". She is one of the light skinned girls with big boobies, and a bit on the young side (about 19). Very cute she is! :D:D:D Enjoy, and be safe!!!

It is certainly worth it to go to your own hotel rather than a pretty grotty ST one where god only know what you might catch or what tricks the girl might try to pull to get back early.

I stay at the J W Marriott so it is very close to NEP and not a problem. If in doubt, ask the mamasan!

I'll be sure to have fun and I'll post a report here when I get back, or maybe a blow by blow account if I have the energy. First stop on arrival BKK is a pre booked 3 some at Eden!

Thaipan

Phuquer
03-11-03, 20:33
Originally posted by Thaipan
It is certainly worth it to go to your own hotel rather than a pretty grotty ST one where god only know what you might catch or what tricks the girl might try to pull to get back early.

I stay at the J W Marriott so it is very close to NEP and not a problem. If in doubt, ask the mamasan!

I'll be sure to have fun and I'll post a report here when I get back, or maybe a blow by blow account if I have the energy. First stop on arrival BKK is a pre booked 3 some at Eden!

Thaipan
Didn't have the Eden experience this time around, but I'm looking forward to visiting Marc's girls next time around. I did have a great time last time I was there. Looking forward to hearing about your adventures. BTW, how long will you be there (bkk), and where are you headed from?

IrishLager
03-12-03, 03:00
Fellas,

I'm dealing with something that I'm sure other contributors to this board may have dealt with, and if so, your 2 cents would be appreciated.
I hooked up with a bargirl in Pattaya and spent 5 days with her. We had the time of our lives (at least I did). She rode to BKK airport with me to see me off to the US. This was 2 weeks ago. She called the next day to say she is moving back to BKK to be close to her mama and daughter and is going to live with her friend in an apartment. Her story is that she now has a restaurant job and no longer does bar gigs. She calls me everyday between 7-11am US west coast time, which would be about the time she should be "bar gigging" if she was. She called again today around 4pm, which would make it 7am her time, just as she woke up. She hasn't asked for a dime and calls me on her dime. She didn't even ask for a dime while I was with her. I gave her 10,000 baht over 5 days and she was worth every bit of it and then some. I'm thinking there could be real love going on here, but I could be dreaming a fairy tale as well. I've heard all the stories of girls scamming farang fools who think they are in love, but damn, this seems pretty genuine. There was personal chemistry, but also physical. I'm only a year older than her (she's 29, I'm 30) so maybe she's into that fact. I don't know. Am I stupid? Am I blind? Help me out brothers.

irishlager

PurpleNGold
03-12-03, 03:32
Originally posted by irishlager
I'm thinking there could be real love going on here, but I could be dreaming a fairy tale as well. I've heard all the stories of girls scamming farang fools who think they are in love, but damn, this seems pretty genuine. There was personal chemistry, but also physical. I'm only a year older than her (she's 29, I'm 30) so maybe she's into that fact. I don't know. Am I stupid? Am I blind? Help me out brothers.

I hear you. I had the same type of experience on my trip. Check back around the 27'th in the 'Thai women' and/or BKK sections and heed the good advice of the more senior members.

Also, check out this link. It might help put things in perspective: http://www.nanapong.com/gamefl.shtml

Marco Pole
03-12-03, 04:32
Hey Irish,

I'd say give it a bit more time before making any serious judgements. You'd be surprised at the lengths some of these girls will go to hook a fish. You say she's calling you on her dime, but with websites out there like Net2Phone, she can get literally hours of calls anywhere in the world for a little as $10 USD. And believe me, they know about these sites. I'm not trying to discourage you, just playing devils advocate. Take it slow amigo.

MP

IrishLager
03-12-03, 05:03
purplengold,

HAHA! I read that link and had a good laugh. It tells it like it is, doesn't it?

Marco,

Yeah, I'm gonna take my time. My plan is to ditch her as soon as she asks for bread, if she does. That's when I think I can be sure it's a scam.

The thing is, I wouldn't have a problem falling in love with a former bar girl and bringing her to the US for good, as long as the bill of health is clean and she's left that life. Like the nanapong article said, that's really what they dream about. I can deal with her being an ex-bargirl, because I've certainly done my share of mongering around the world.

I'll return to BKK around August 7th, but I'm gonna tell the girl I'll be there the 12th. I want to have a few days to "warm up", but in addition to that, if she's still barfining, there's the off chance of me catching her ass. The thing about that is, although I'll be sad that my fairy tale will have ended, I will have been halfway expecting it. I just can't figure out why or how she can call at times of night when she would otherwise be busy with a customer. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt because of that reason. Anytime someone called her phone while I was with her, she talked to them right in front of me. They were usually friends or relatives or something. My point is, she would never go off to talk privately with someone.

I've really fallen victim, haven't I?

irishlager

PurpleNGold
03-12-03, 05:16
Originally posted by irishlager
I just can't figure out why or how she can call at times of night when she would otherwise be busy with a customer. I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt because of that reason.

I noticed that you said she calls at sometime between 7 to 11. Maybe she's calling after she gets done with a customer? Or between dancing? It's always possible :)

Get on a video chat with her via the internet. Check out the kinds of clothes she's wearing and where she is. At least, at that point, you know she's not calling you from some other monger's hotel room while he's taking a shower or shit.

PosterLion
03-12-03, 06:03
Irishlager,

I recommend you go the nearest pub and drink a few Harps, pronto! I’m wondering how many times you’ve been to Thailand. It is important to know your level of Jadedness prior to this miracle of Love. That’s it, have another Harp and listen up.

I was already a jaded person when I arrived in Bangkok my first time. There is a lot of information to read on the subject of Bar Girls and love in Thailand. I’ve read a lot of it. Stickman gives a very good expose at http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/

I just looked it up. He’s been hard at work rearranging and adding things. I’d read it cover to cover (web page to web page). If I were you, I’d read it before you go back to Bangkok. When? Up to you! If you hook up with this girl again I recommend you do some basic research. I am talking about spying on her a bit. :)

I doubt it will take you long to find things that don’t fit together the way you thought they should. Maybe I’ve blown it several times because I’m so jaded. Who knows? Maybe a bargirl really fell in love with me once, but I can’t say I think so. As I said, the way I am might not be the best way. Maybe the ones that are not jaded are the ones that work it all out. I’ll tell you a story about the last girl I met in Bangkok. I stayed with her for a couple of weeks because she took me to Chaingmai. It was the first time I hooked up for longer than one night in Thailand. Here’s an encapsulated story of what I noticed.

I picked her up at Angel’s Disco and went with her to the Grace Hotel after 2am. We had drinks. She introduced me to a myriad of her friends. I grabbed her hand after some time and said, “Go hotel.” She followed me and that was that.

I thought I had a great deal going. During the first two days there was no mention of money. There were many such phrases as, “I love you too much” or “Thai man no good.” and “You hansum man.”

On day three she relayed that she should be getting some money from me. I was hoping it wouldn’t happen but... Of course it did. We settled on 1000 Baht a day and that we’d go to Chaingmai in three days.

During that three days I learned of her crippled dad and her little baby girl. We went shopping (not much), I never liked that kind of thing, but I relented one day and took her to the mall to get some pictures taken. I kind of liked the idea. It wasn’t too bad, posing for the pictures was fun enough. The only other outlay I made was to recharge her mobile for the trip. I made it pretty clear with her up front that we’d not be holding hands and that I didn’t like shopping too much. She was pretty good about it and didn’t try to pull too many things on me. Well, actually, she was saving it for later. Hahaha. If I can type long enough I will get to that part of the adventure.

I also did some covert espionage during the days leading up to Chaingmai. Simple stuff really, like searching through her purse while she was showering, things like that. I caught her doing the same thing to some of my papers, so a tit for a tat. The papers where names and addresses of Thai girls I had met on my first trip. They were upper class types with real jobs like you and I.

While looking through her purse, I discovered a picture of a farang showing prominently. I was intrigued. Low and behold, but what did I find behind that picture? It was another farang. I found out about the farang pictures before we went to have our photo’s done at the mall.

Now let me tell you that I have always followed up on the claims of Thai women. This has led me to visit three homes of Thai girls. Two were of bar girls, and the other was of a fairly wealthy one that worked at KSC Internet. I have the TSHIRT man. lol... It has been my general observation that the Thai girl, bar or not, will give you an accurate depiction of her family and her social status. However, everything else is smoke and mirrors, especially with the bargirls. By the way, the girl that worked at KSC is now married to a man from NZ and she moved there to be with him. Her aunt is married to a guy from Germany. He owns a magazine there. Yada yada! See, I might have missed a real one!

I’m getting tired. I’m going to summary mode.

We know a few things:

1) She had a story of a baby girl with no daddy, and a crippled father (that was true, I have pictures of both, and the wooden shack on stilts.)
2) She had pictures of mucho farangs in her purse. I had confronted her with them and she admitted she had many farang boyfriends. She even said she had a Thai boyfriend.
3) She told me all the money milking one-liners: “love you too much”, etc.
4) She was 25 and her baby was 7 years old.
5) She is from Chaingmai. This is what made me think to ask her to take me. It turns out she was a three hour bus ride from Chaingmai, at least, that is where the house with stilts was.
6) It was damn good sex, every time!

What happened in Chaingmai that made me leery:

1) I found some pictures of her that we took at the mall in Bangkok during another backpack inspection. She had brought three of them to Chaingmai with her. On the back of each one she had written a note that said, “From the one you love”.
2) She bought a nice card one day while we where out.
3) One of her friends came over one morning and picked up the card and one of the pictures and a piece of paper with an address on it. She gave him some money and he went to mail the picture (I had purchased for her) to one of her farang boyfriends.
4) I confronted her one night about the pictures, it was the day before it got mailed, and we had it out, so to speak. It was pretty funny. She tried to do the crying thing but knew I was wise to her and she didn’t really cry at all. Then we both kind of cried because we both knew we were too jaded to cry.
5) One night, she said, “I open my heart, you see it and I see your heart... I’ll never forget this.”
6) I haven’t forgotten either.

She started emailing me as soon as I left Thailand. They were really nice and I felt very good about them. Then one day she said she’d need 8000 Baht for her little one’s education. (Does anyone know how much it cost to send a seven year old girl to school in Thailand, a little girl that lives three hours from Chaingmai and lives in a wooden shack? I would like to know. It will ad to my jadedness and I will need to wake up very early each day and offer food to the monks for atonement!)

How many Harps have you had now, enough? I’m on my third vino. Oh yeah! I forgot that I might mention, if I could type long enough, the thing she was saving up for, the big stunt. Well... I will tell you.

On the day before Loi Krathong we were very bored. All her friends had to work and we had the whole day to ourselves. We decided to do the cheesy tourist stuff outside of town. You know, the monkey show, thank God the snake show was closed. She nicknamed me Monkey-Smile after the monkey show. On the way back she tells the driver to pull into this huge complex. We got out of the cab (rented for the day, it was an Isuzu-pickup-bus kind of thing) and walked into the place that was gigantic. This was her big stunt!

It was a jewelry factory! A long-legged-slinky-thing walked up and started to work me in the mid-section, telling me not to hold my punches and spend and spend and spend, on my beloved Thai girlfriend. I just smiled, like I was in Romania, communism still hanging on me like Jesus from a cross and said, “I’m sorry, I had no idea I was walking into a store of such magnificence.” Then I immediately relayed to the long-legged-slinky-one that I had no need for such things. I wound up buying a 200 Baht set of earrings to get us out of there.

For the most part, my experiences have been positive and lived for the moment. That is what I consider the best way. If the moment keeps you together, enjoy it and feel lucky, because all the moments eventually go away.

Postscript: We lighted the candles and the incense and set the Krathong in the water.
Next to the candles were two five Baht coins (from each of us) and two strands of our hair. They floated away like cherry bombs exploding with desire. The water was calm and we watched them until they disappeared.

2nd Postscript: Yes... You have fallen victum. Or, you are someone with one or two or three handles that likes to stir things up. I like to tell stories too... Either way, it does not matter. Who am I to say or do? :) Take it as it comes or don’t take it at all...

poster...

IrishLager
03-12-03, 06:04
purplengold,

The bar I met her in was one where no dancing goes on, just drinking and hanging out. She apparently has never danced go-go. Her story was that she had just broken up with an expat Englishman who was a long time boyfriend with whom she lived. After they split, she decided to go to Pattaya and met me after about a month of being there.

When I said between 7-11, I meant 7-11am, Pacific Standard Time, which would make it 10pm-1am, Bangkok time. I know, it's always possible that she might be getting tooled, but I'm still gonna keep the dream alive for now, with caution, of course.
Unfortunately, I don't have a webcam right now, and my computer is so slow and out of date that it probably couldn't handle one anyway, but I appreciate the advice.

Joe Zop
03-12-03, 06:05
Irishlager -- bottom line, you don't and can't know anything because this is all information coming to you via phone. That's like making judgement of what people look or sound like based on their posts in a forum such as this. Anything can be true or anything can be baloney. And two weeks is certainly not exactly much time to make any judgement, or, if it's a game, for this girl to hit you up for dollars, even presuming she'd do so directly.

Presume it's true. What happened is that you picked someone out of a bar for fairly surfacy reasons, paid her a couple of hundred bucks/euros to spend five days with you, and had a great time. Cool, great, wonderful. But no matter what happened that hardly means love, hardly means reality, hardly means anything would or could work out, hardly means you know anything at all. Bottom line is that's the case with a man and woman in this situation no matter what, and here you have the variables of her being a sex worker, being from a different culture, and being half the world away. Are you going to move to Thailand permanently? Are you truly going to bring a prostitute (or ex-prostitute) home to the folks, even presuming you can, which is very doubtful given the state of visas these days? The truth is you spent very little time doing things that would matter in real life other than screwing, and that is hardly the basis of a solid relationship or any way to even get a clue about it. Do you know anything at all about this woman, her family, her background, her education, her skills, her home? Do you even know her real name? Do you know if she's been married before, and if perhaps she might still be?

IF it's true, and she's moved to be with mom and gotten another job, what exactly does that mean? That she no longer sleeps with guys for money? Is that the entirety of what matters as far as her being someone you'd want to be with?

Time to take a breath, and think with the big head. What she is or is not doing is irrelevant -- you need to start by injecting a bit of reality into your thinking.

Then go this direction as well -- when she is calling you means nothing. There are plenty of girls who freelance during the day and sleep at night. There are plenty of girls who stay up all night and then sleep during the day. There are plenty of girls who go to work at a variety of times. These signals really mean nothing, and you shouldn't read anything into them -- how can you know? We've all read reports here of girls talking with farangs they've got on a string while lying in bed with one of the posters here. For all you know, she's just been barfined by someone else for a long stretch, and is hedging her bets with you. For all you know, she just decided to work in Bangkok instead of Pattaya. For all you know, she may still be in Pattaya. Who knows? At twenty-nine, she'd be foolish not to start looking at a long-term relationship, as she's not got that many years left in the trade, but that's not exactly an endorsement of this being real, is it?

It's been two weeks. Put this issue in a drawer, think about it, and revisit it in two months.

IrishLager
03-12-03, 06:42
joe z,

Well said. Point taken and good advice. I'll certainly be thinking about all this. By the time I revisit this in two months, she may have asked for money by then anyway, because once that happens, it's adios, my Thai love.

Poster, thanks for the entertaining story. Very good and point taken as well.

-irishlager

JuiceSpike
03-12-03, 07:09
Irish,

Your chances of making it work with that girl is: 1%. Forget it, don't even waste energy wondering. A good source of interesting stories about Thai bar girls is: Stickmanbangkok.com under readers submissions.

Good luck.

juice.

PurpleNGold
03-12-03, 07:46
I'm curious. Are there any stories out there of relationships that did work? I mean, they may be a very very small percentage, but what was it that made them work and most fail?

Freeler
03-12-03, 07:48
Posterlion, all,

'It turns out she was a three hour bus ride from Chaingmai at least, that is where the house with stilts was.'

When a girl says she is from ChiangMai, Ubon or Chayaphum, she means the Province.
Hardly ever will a girl tell you the name of the actual town or village she lives in, unless you ask (and probably have to ask again)

HKferry
03-12-03, 10:16
Originally posted by purplengold
I hear you. I had the same type of experience on my trip. Check back around the 27'th in the 'Thai women' and/or BKK sections and heed the good advice of the more senior members.

Also, check out this link. It might help put things in perspective: http://www.nanapong.com/gamefl.shtml

I read that section on relationships, damn that guy henrik really got it hard. But i am not at all surprised by his story.

PurpleNGold
03-12-03, 10:21
HK. Yeah poor old Henrik. But, that girl fucked over P as well. And, at least fucked around with 2 other swiss guys. That's some scary shit.

Wonder if Henrik or P read this board. If either of you is out there, you have my sympathy.

SexReview
03-12-03, 10:52
Guys,
The bottom line is anything that is even close relationship with a Thai girl doesn't work in 99 out of 100 cases. So why mess up a good thing and even try the odds are not with you? Come to Thailand and have fun hire your favorite girl for the whole trip if you want. But remember you are a job for her, have fun and leave, go home, don't call her or try to be her friend, lover, etc. Just go about your business at home and return again. When you return to Tahiland again have another fun filled trip. It is really a very simply process until we try to make relationships. I'm not cold and heartless I just see it for what it is.
Later,
Sexreview

AsiaTraveler2
03-12-03, 10:57
Originally posted by irishlager
I've really fallen victim, haven't I?

irishlager

Irish;

Yes, you have fallen victim! There's always a chance it's true love. Just a side note, I have used the escort services from time to time .. early morning like 3:00am or first thing in the morning like 9:00am. Many girls have "legit" jobs, and make some money on the side at the escort services. The girls at the escort services, I find, are generally more interesting to talk to. They have very flexible hours, so they can work around their normal job hours. Just a thought.

AT2

Thaipan
03-12-03, 11:18
Originally posted by Phuquer
Didn't have the Eden experience this time around, but I'm looking forward to visiting Marc's girls next time around. I did have a great time last time I was there. Looking forward to hearing about your adventures. BTW, how long will you be there (bkk), and where are you headed from?

I'll be in BKK on the following dates:

14th - 16th March
21st - 24th March
26th - 28th March

With visits to Manila and Singapore in between, it is a kind of crazy itinerary but Singapore has literally just been sprung on me on Monday!

Home is Scotland, land of the best whisky in the world, kilts, haggis and one of the northern hemisphere's worst rugby teams!

I'll post a trip report as soon as I can.

Thaipan

AsiaTraveler2
03-12-03, 12:17
Originally posted by Thaipan
I'll be in BKK on the following dates:

14th - 16th March
21st - 24th March
26th - 28th March

Thaipan

Thaipan;

Some would say you live in BKK! Would have been simpler to post the dates you aren't going to be there! Damn I hate you! ... just kidding! :) I'm counting the days to my return.

AT2

Joe Zop
03-12-03, 17:09
Freeler noted: Hardly ever will a girl tell you the name of the actual town or village she lives in, unless you ask (and probably have to ask again)

This is true, but it should be noted that this is not about deception, it's about not really understanding the question, since Thais truly do think in terms of provinces. I've had the precise same difficulty with Thai men, with wives of friends, etc. It's just how the Thais think about where they're from.

SexReview
03-12-03, 21:08
[QUOTE]Originally posted by joe_zop
Freeler noted: [i]Hardly ever will a girl tell you the name of the actual town or village she lives in, unless you ask (and probably have to ask again)

I've had the same problem but since I shoot pictures of everything in Thailand I found an easy answer. I snap a shot of the girl's Thai ID. Most girls don't care that I do but a few asked why? The answer that I give them is simple and the truth, it proves they are of legal age in my country if I am ever stopped with my lap top. Also many hotels make copies of the girls ID cards just become friends with the guards they will show you the record. Remember Thai's round up for birthdays so in most cases if a girl tells you she is 20 she is only 19. The Thai year now is 2546 so any DOB listed as 2528 or after can be a problem. I know the issue here was about home towns, but I thought the age information was also helpful.

Yoyohpw97
03-13-03, 04:49
hi fellows,
i am planning a 4 days stop in my way back to france for my annual holiday, take the opportunity reproduce some oytfits of mine by a taylor ( for info versace or baron).
it will bw my 3rd time in bkk in one year, and i'm not counting the stop over ( for that i generaly end in the amary airport hotel massage center, but for enjoy it you have to take the 3h transit package, which is around 1000 bth, and massage center: regular thai massage with a big fat 40 45 yo mama 1700bth/h but very good after a long fly, or sex massage with young lady which is 7000 bth 2 or 3h same price.), but this time i will like to enjoy the city a little more, the 2 other times was 80% lust. so i will like to have your advice for this, do i have to contact a lady via a msn or take a bar girl, any other proposition from you will be great, cuz i'll like to enjoy the city and the girl with me.
anyway, i will want to ear from regular visitor or mp soapy lover their advice of chaophrya2 on sri ayudhya,in comparison of poseidon etc etc etc.

ffnantes,
for your q1, why don't you have a look on the eden site, when you book there you have plenty of options separate in 2 categories: what you want to do to the girls and what you want the girl do to you. and the list is exaustive: fisting, peeing, fingering, anal, deep throat, spankling, etc etc etc.

tapioca,
i know you often come in taiwan or live there, i'am living there and i am also an electronic music lover, did you find any good place in bkk for some good house (deep, prog, acid, hard, psychedelic), any advice from everybody will be accepted.
i know already about mos, and several other fantastic places in asia.
will have also a great party in south of taiwan, kenting, end of march start of april.

for the end, i will like to do a warm thanks to jakson for this board, good job man, and all the users in general, it's very helpful, and also can find good info on
**************.com
one-night-in-bangkok.com
whorist.com
hotcom.aust.com

have a good time and watch your back.

yoyo

Marco Pole
03-13-03, 10:41
Yoyo,

Don't have much advice regarding the massage places you ask about as I haven't been, but I did hit up a couple clubs with some kick ass house music.

The first, and by far the best I found, is called "Bed" and it's located near the end of Soi 11 (right hand side) off of Sukhumvit. The place has only been open for about eight months or so from what I heard, and it's definitely a hot spot to party. Reminded me a lot of something you would see in New York City or Miami. Drinks are pricey but the ladies are hot! I met a hot little Thai chick there and ended spending the week with her at her apartment (no cost involved). =) Definitely worth checking out.

The other place I checked out that was pretty cool is called "Lucifer" and it's located in Patpong. It's a two story club with a pretty nice sized dance floor and some good beats. Not sure the exact location in Patpong, but just cruise around and ask someone and I'm sure you'll have no problems finding it.

Good luck...
MP

Wolf
03-13-03, 11:31
Hi guys,
Could anyone tell me whether action could be expected in or around the Erewan Hyatt hotel. It's been 2 decade I haven't come to Bangkok and will start more regularly as from now. Should be there rather soon (in a couple of weeks).
Can one get a naughty massage in the hotel ?
Where ? at the Health center or in the room ?
What action can be got soon around the hotel, let say walking distance ?
Thanks

Member #4351
03-13-03, 20:17
Asiatraveler2,

What did the escorts cost you? I'm in Bkk next week and haven't tried one of these services, always did the Patpong scene. Also....which service did you use?

Thanks.

Dick Johnson
03-14-03, 11:17
so
Originally posted by joe_zop
There are no casinos in Thailand, so if you want one you'll need to head to Cambodia, Malaysia, Burma or Laos, all of which have them. Gambling in general is illegal in LOS (though there is supposedly a booming illegal betting scene) except for horse racing. There are a couple of tracks near Bangkok, I believe, and others elsewhere.

There are definitely illegal casinos in Bangkok, I've been there. The place was packed with a few hundred people, an electrifying atmosphere. Many kinds of games were going on.

Also they are opening up casinos in Thailand since the Gov. don't want people to go to Cambodia's border town casinos anymore. In fact the borders are closed and Thailand and Cambodia's relationship are tense.

Also the Thai police have killed more than 1000 drug dealers and drug runners in the last few months. Point and shoot, no questions asked. A lot of these drugs come from Myanmar, Laos and meth labs in the jungles of Thailand.

Sources say that the drug lords placed a price on Taksin's head for about US$2 million.

-D J

AsiaTraveler2
03-14-03, 11:55
Originally posted by david_33
Asiatraveler2,

What did the escorts cost you? I'm in Bkk next week and haven't tried one of these services, always did the Patpong scene. Also....which service did you use?

Thanks.

The going rates start from 2,000 baht up to 4,000 baht for "model" quality for 2 hours. The rates go up for longer periods. Don't expect the same level of girls as the models in places like Poseidon/Emmanuel and the other major soapies. My experiences are that most times you will end up with a 7 or 8, if you choose the model category. These are girls that may be going to school or have a regular office job, etc. My experiences have been positive so far. I used a couple of them .. No.1 Bangkok Models (0-2641-9099, 0-2641-9489) with the website at http://bangkok-escorts.com and I used VIP models (0-1835-7897, 0-1808-7595) with the website at http://www.escortsinthailand.com. I found both on the Bangkok tonight website. A bit pricey, but like 7-11 they are 24/7 so it's a good backup plan. I usually hit Nana or Soi Cowboy. Patpong scene has a bit too many tourists and touts for my taste. Hope this info helps.

AT2

AsiaTraveler2
03-14-03, 11:58
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
so

There are definitely illegal casinos in Bangkok, I've been there. The place was packed with a few hundred people, an electrifying atmosphere. Many kinds of games were going on.
-D J

Dick;

Sounds like the Tokyo scene. Illegal, but all over the place if you know where to look. Sounds interesting. Thanks!

AT2

Lalake
03-14-03, 12:48
For those of you looking for info on Escorts:

here:
http://**************.com/escorts/

Also, have heard good things about this place:
http://www.thequeensmassage.com/


For Wolf:
you are already in the best place to look for Thai Ladies, the Hyatt has a disco downstairs, Spasso's, that is great. If that is not any good, try the club CM2 at the Novotel down the street from where you are.
If you are more into Go-Go bars, tell the taxis to take you to Nana Entertainment Plaza (NEP) on Sukhumvit Soi 4 (Soi Nana). If that is no good, walk across the street (Suk.) and try Gulliver's on Sukhumvit Soi 5, for a game of biliards.

My favorite place to hang out for an early evening beer is to go to Sukhumvit Soi 33, ....lots of bars there, Ladies in evening gowns.

Good luck, keep the stories coming
Lalake

JTL
03-15-03, 05:35
Posters

Can you tell me which Go Go you feel is the best?
Which Soapy is the best?

And lastly, I have heard about some of these high end KTV's, Are they any good? Any suggestions? What kind of costs can be expected, for drinks and to take the girls out after for LT?

Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!

Thaipan
03-15-03, 06:45
Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
Thaipan;

Some would say you live in BKK! Would have been simpler to post the dates you aren't going to be there! Damn I hate you! ... just kidding! :) I'm counting the days to my return.

AT2

Hi Asiatraveler2,

Ok so hate me, do I care :-) ? Not me I'm in LOS! Man it feels like I have died and gone to heaven!

But I have to warn you hurry back before I use up all the girls!

Thaipan having a whole lot of fun!

Thaipan
03-15-03, 06:46
Originally posted by JTL
Posters

Can you tell me which Go Go you feel is the best?
Which Soapy is the best?

And lastly, I have heard about some of these high end KTV's, Are they any good? Any suggestions? What kind of costs can be expected, for drinks and to take the girls out after for LT?

Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!

Try Angelwitch Go Go in Nana Plaza, it is usually always good and no katoeys either!

Thaipan

Thaipan
03-15-03, 06:53
Trip report day 1:

Arrived BKK very early yesterday morning, got to the J W Marriott in the hotel limo and it felt like coming home except the girls are a whole lot better looking!

Crashed out for a couple of hours then hit Eden, well it is good to hit the ground running! I had prebooked a 3 some via their web site after a member e-mailed me a pic of one of their girls called Kung, her photo did not do her justice at all! So much better in the flesh so to speak and her friend was just as gorgeous!

This is my second shot at the Eden Experience and it just gets better and better, so if you have never done it, go for it at 3400 Bhat for the 3 some and some drinks it is money well spent!

Later in the evening I barfined a girl ST, took her back to the very girl friendly Marriott, well lets just say that I slept very well last night.

I also found a bar to watch live Super 12 rugby too - well you have to do something to get your strength back in between girls, don't you?

Thaipan in Thai heaven!

Thaipan
03-15-03, 06:56
Originally posted by Wolf
Hi guys,
Could anyone tell me whether action could be expected in or around the Erewan Hyatt hotel. It's been 2 decade I haven't come to Bangkok and will start more regularly as from now. Should be there rather soon (in a couple of weeks).
Can one get a naughty massage in the hotel ?
Where ? at the Health center or in the room ?
What action can be got soon around the hotel, let say walking distance ?
Thanks

Wolf, it is really simple - just go into virtually any bar! All you have to do is order a drink and a girl will be by your side before the beer gets to you, if you don't like her, look for another, if you do it politely she wont be offended. If in doubt ask the mamasan!

Have fun, I am!

Thaipan

Apac Boy
03-15-03, 13:16
arrived about 4 hrs ago...i'm at the internet place next to Lollitas waiting for Traveler to shoot his load in his TG...dood, it's been like 30 fucking min...i only took 10 and my TG was complaining...
it must be nice to speak Thai fluently.

she was good enough though...but when Traveler came in and sat next to me, it got a lil bit weird at first. the TG was going up and down and Traveler was telling me how dirty it was in there and how i should have used a condom...heh heh...next time...next time.

looks: 5
skill: 7
price-value ratio: 7.5

600bht!

going to go pick up Sedlitz now...
tapioca

Marco Pole
03-15-03, 21:28
Hey Tap or anyone else in BKK,

The world health organization (and CDC) just issued an emergency worldwide travel advisory for a killer flu like pneumonia that appears to have originated in Southern China, but is spreading to other parts of the region and world.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=564&ncid=564&e=4&u=/nm/20030315/ts_nm/health_pneumonia_who_dc_6

Thailand, Singapore, Hong Kong, and Vietnam are but a few countries listed that have reported cases.

Is this being reported out there? Just curious as I plan on booking my flight to BKK for next week.

Skinless
03-15-03, 23:03
marco polo mark 2: we are up to speed on that. there are, what, 2.5 billion people in asia and one american died of that flu in singapore. the question is: how did tapioca and adlez get on? does their love of video games unite them? is it love?

Dick Johnson
03-16-03, 04:40
Tap, I didn't know Traveller, Seylitz are there too damn it :). How long are you guys there?

Now we really want to hear about the gathering of z man and Tapioca, in detail. z used to stab Tapioca but they seem to have made up:).

Marco polo and others, to read about the flu check out my post in Guanzhou, China.

I might be cancelling my trip to Hong Kong now. I'll see if I can still make it to BKK in a few days. If not it might be postponed considerably.

Apac Boy
03-16-03, 13:38
ok...I'm in Pattaya right now with Traveler...something happened in BKK yesterday that freaked me out so that's why I left so fast. It wasn't because I met up with Samus...he's actually a very nice guy, nothing like I imagined. His forum persona is totally different from his real life self. I think this is because he lives in such a boring shithole that he needs to find something to do, and that something is to stir up shit here...anyways, he's kewl..we went to like 5 different gogo's in Nana..

oh, the freaky thing that happened was that I actually met some of my friends from back home...can u believe that shit??? I didn't even tell them I was coming here and we met each other at the entrance of Nana...shit...i just told them to not say anything to our mutual friends...gave them the monger wink and smile, and went off with samus...

And while walking back to Royal Asia, I passed by the Ally Cats bar on Soi 8. They have short time rooms upstairs. 600 for bj, 1,500 for FS...none of da gurlz were cute though...

Royal Asia is too far down the soi. I know they have those tuk tuks but still, it's a hassle to call them. Anyways, I didn't care much for the rooms either.

I'll post the rest of my trip in the Pattaya section...

tapioca

Dick Johnson
03-16-03, 15:02
I knew z'd be alright. BTW, are those college friends? No here's the question Tap, do your friends read this forum? If so not only do they know you're in BKK, they'll know a lot more! LOL.

_Dick:D.

ManonsanBoy
03-16-03, 21:18
Hey guys

I have been reading this room chat for about 12 months and contributing the odd story. Like to get opinions. Certainly BKK is an amazing pussy town but I'd like to start a line of diccussion. If you had a month, and say USD 500 a day to spend, where would you go pussy huntin' and how long would you stay in each place?

MeatMan
03-16-03, 23:43
Manomansboy,

Ya stole my thunder..how about that!:)

How are you guys handling the mysterious flu outbreak there?? stay on guard guys!

Byeon Kwang Sae
03-17-03, 03:09
I seem to have lost a contact. I once used a personal escort service in Thailand, and the lady that ran the service went by the name of “Miss Annie”. She is a busty Thai-Chinese business lady. (Not to be confused with Annie’s Massage) Her specialty is providing rather naïve clean and fresh young turn-out college girls (with or without school uniforms), and other similar fetishes.

Anyway, I have some business associates that are coming into town, and I have promised to provide them with upscale entertainment. (Company expense account, money is no problem) I am going to take them to all of the best soapys, etc., but they are also drooling over the prospects of doing the “school girl” thing.

I remember that Miss Annie had at least two cell-phone numbers, and I seem to have misplaced both numbers.

If anyone has her digits, let me know, please.

Thanks,

Byeon Kwang Sae

just_a_nice_old_guy@yahoo.com

ThaiFan
03-17-03, 03:33
Escort Agencies

Been looking at the escort agency sites. Some nice girls. Can anyone tell me if the prices quoted (ie, 4000B for 2 hours) includes everything, ie, kissing, BJ, full sex???

I only have one night stopover in BKK so I want to make the most of it. I am planning a visit to Eden. Money for the one night will be no object.

Do all the TG kiss? I'm one of these dicks who likes a certain amount of intimacy and lotsa foreplay. I cant stand it when your gettin in to it and she keeps turning her head away when you go to kiss her. Instant turn-off. I love sex and I love to get women off. I fully appreciate that treating the girl well and spending some time with her first is the best way to achieve this.

BTW, I am not an ugly fat bastard (yet). I can pull some decent women at home no probs so the TG's shouldn't find me too repulsive .....!

Can I get some opinions from TG "veterans".

"She has a tongue like an electric eel and she likes the taste of a mans tonsils" .....

Thaifan

ThaiFan
03-17-03, 04:10
Falling In Love ........

Irishlager, an experience for you.

My brother married a TG four years ago. He met her two days after arriving in Pattaya and saw her for the rest of his three week stay. He kept in touch with her by phone, daily (as you are). He was smitten badly.

His background: My brother has lived the bachelor life for many years whilst living and working on a very picturesque touristy caribean island for many years. He has had more european tourist pussy (not paid for) than I have had hot dinners, a lot of them absolute stunners. He use to be slim, very good looking and lots of fun. He is now fat, bald but still lots of fun.

Myself and my wife went to his wedding in Thailand. I was also very taken with his beautiful petite Thai fiance. She was 27 but looked 18. She was cute, funny and obviously very smart. We all (including my wife) really liked this girl and the wedding and subsequent holiday (in Thailand) was great. I personally fell in love with Thailand the people and especially the women. She eventually joined my brother on the caribean island but eventually she got very homesick and she now has moved back to Thailand. My brother has financed her starting a business which is doing well. He did plan to move to Thailand himself once he had saved a bit more money (he earns a very good salary) but I dont know if that is still the case. My older brother (who lives in the UK) joined my younger brother and his Thai wife in BKK earlier this year and spent two weeks whoring it with my younger bother. It turns out that my younger brother's Thai wife "doesn't like sex" (she told my older brother) and is quite happy for him to ***** around and even have a steady girlfriend or even second wife as long as she doesnt have an IQ!

When I joined my younger bother for the wedding four years ago he was intimating at how good the sex was, etc, etc. It was obviously all to hook him in. She was attentive fun and made him feel like the only man in the world. I dont know of her past and dont care. I personally feel for my brother at the loss of the intimacy in his marriage but I am not angry with his Thai wife. She is still a lovely person and is attentive and still seems to dote on him and I am sure is faithful to him. European woman are just as schemeing when trying to hook men in to marriage. I have witnessed it many times with friends.

I am now single, middle aged and I love Thai women but I would have to be sure over a long period of time that she was the right girl for me and it wasnt based on sex alone. TG's have a lot of great qualities but just keep in mind that most of them have one main goal, to hook a farang husband which will give respect and security for them and their families.

I myself have to be very disciplined because I could fall for some of these girls v e r y easliy.

Hope this helps.

Thaifan

JTL
03-17-03, 06:31
Byeon Kwang Sae


If my memory is correct, I think you are Korean, can't remember if you actually still live in Korea or not. I am an American living and Seoul and will be going to Thailand next week with some of my Korean business associates and was wondering if you know anything about any upscale KTV's. I had heard of some places that cater to the higher end from Korea and Japan. Do you have any detail on such places, if so please provide as much detail as you can, like drink prices, cost to take the girl out and so on.

Thanks

Meaty
03-17-03, 11:25
Guys,
Seen a few fellow mongers looking for somewhere new in Bangkok rather than the usual places (including me). I happened upon Srinakarin Road the other day and saw a string of huge MP's and Karaoke bars. Has anyone been down this way or experienced whats on offer, any advice or info on quality, price, girls etc.?
I'm hoping to get down there soon, but if theres anyone with info in the meantime i'd be grateful.
Obviously any outcome of my ventures will be posted for all to read.
Cheers
M

Meaty
03-17-03, 11:42
Originally posted by Byeon Kwang Sae
I seem to have lost a contact......

just_a_nice_old_guy@yahoo.com

Guys, i'm not one for taking the board off the subject, but just wanted to point out that this guys post might be upto no good. The last post he gave was about avoiding law enforcement and stuff. Just seems strange he now wants telephone numbers of agents providing "naive clean and fresh young turn-out college girls (with or without school uniforms), and other similar fetishes.

Maybe i read too much into it but i feel the post implies young girls. No offence intended BKS but just seems like 2 very strange posts.
Back to monging
M

The Traveler
03-18-03, 13:15
what happened till now,

arrived in bkk, looked for a good hotel and finally ended up in soi 8, royal asia lodge 950b incl. tax. what a mess, hope to have better luck with the girls.

first night alone, went around suk and checked all the bars. seems to me, that girls are getting older. finally went to soi cowboy and checked the gogos in the old fashion manner.

going in, look for the chick of the night and if appropriate sit down and have a drink, otherwise leave, to many playgrounds and never enough time to check them all.

finally found a hostess, 24 y, 1.67 m, cup 80b, nice body 8/10, very nice face 9/10. just three weeks in business and same story as always, thai boyfriend bla bla...

talked to her about two hours, took her out, went to ministry of sound and was quite disappointed.
first, the entrance fee was 450 and no drinks !!! chicks enter for free if the fill out an application for a membership card.
secondly, it fills up at around 12:30, girls are about average. my advice, avoid.

finally went home and was more than happy that i had what i had. she was really into it and one of the few who really like to go long way. finally brought her back to suk and headed to grace and thermae, but at around 4am do not expect too much.
so i went home and slept till noon.

picked up tap at the royal president the next day and went to my place to rent a room next door.

evening started out with [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) bar close to soi cowboy. nothing real cute but tap really needed a bj as a warm up, so i decided to join him. he was done in a couple of minutes. i told mine, that it will be hard work for her, cause i like to take my time. she thoughed i was joking, but soon realized that she now got to face reality. after approx. one hour the job was done. good thing was, she never complained and was really hard working on it so i gave her a nice tip. at least i had better value for money - tap payed 600 for 10 min = 60b/min, i just ended up with 10b/min. without bargaining.

after that tap and me met samus, the poor guy who is living in the middle of nowhere. now i understand why he likes computer games that much, nothing else to do over there. trips to korat or bangkok are time consuming.

tap, samus and me went to nana after a short chat and at angel witch tap and me were focussed at the same girl. since he always got probs with fast decisions i got her. she was just 1,48m, 39 kg, 75a, angel face 9.5/10, devils body 9.5/10 and really cute. i called her over and had the standard conversation. payed bar fine and suddenly she started to talk about money. ask me how much i wanna give her. standard question, standard answer: payment depends on performance.
said so and back home, cause she got to be back to do the thai dance show over there and had to be back at 11pm.
only 2h left, quick shower and here we go. she really performs quite good, every position, not complaining about taking my time - just about one hour though - but at the end she said that she expected some extra tip. gave her 1.500 b which should be fair and enough for a one hour ride on a devils horse. she complains with no effort. back to nana and looking for tap.

tap vanished - checked eden were he loves to go just for the kick - and back to nana. sitting at a bar for a while when suddenly someone sat down right next to me. nice talking. a real pro, just back from singapore (checked passport), had been to hongkong and australia as well. currently not working but still available :-)
face 8/10, body 7.5/10, attitude good, loves fun and sex.
when we went home i was really surprised. a really impressive performance. this girl knows what turns you on. furthermore she is really into it and never gets enough. first competition where i am curious if i can win. show goes on for hours, bj, hj, front, back, up, down, everything what you can think of. forget about eden. she is a thousand times better.
long story short, this is the sand i got to take to the beach - like tap use to say.

next morning tap forced me to leave to pattaya for some private reasons. next part there.

Apac Boy
03-18-03, 13:22
DOH...didn't want to mention Casanova but since Samus brought it out...yeah...we went inside...u know..just to look...lookie lookie, no touchie touchie.

tapioca

Dick Johnson
03-18-03, 13:33
Tap and z's meeting, interesting but not detailed/juicy enuff:D

HKferry
03-18-03, 14:38
thaifan,

Nice story. The way i see thai girls is that you either love them or hate them. I myself have been screwed over big time by a few different thai girl, not bargirls just regular thai women living in the states.

Your last comment about their goal to hook a farang is pretty dead on, they do want security for themselves and family but i have seen and heard too many that still keep a thai boyfriend.

JohnnieBravo
03-18-03, 22:09
The_Traveler:

I was planning on staying at the Royal Asia Lodge on Soi 8. This will be my first trip to BKK. You spoke negatively of it in your post. Could you please elaborate on your problems there?

To all:

This is just my luck. My first trip to BKK is supposed to be at the beginning of April and now it looks as the war is going to break out (terrorist bombings like in Bali possible), plus now several of my friends have been sending me frantic emails about the outbreak of the unknown Sudden Acute Respritory Syndrome (SARS) and urging me to cancel my trip. This has been on the news a lot lately but I just don't know if it's worth cancelling my trip over. Any of my fellow hobbyist have any thoughts about this? Again, forgive me if this seems paranoid, just my first trip out of the country.

Joe Zop
03-18-03, 23:43
JohnnyBravo -- there's really no answer to your question, as it depends completely on you. Do you want assurances you won't get SARS or get caught in a terrorist attack in LOS? Do you want assurances that people won't think badly of Americans and act out while you're over there because we're blowing people up in Iraq? How can anyone have the knowledge to give you that? I know you're nervous because it's your first trip, but you're bordering on the ridiculous with your cumulative queasiness.

Look, I've been in Northern Ireland while The Troubles were in full swing, in Columbia while they were shooting people in the street outside of my hotel, in India watching everyone set off fireworks for Diwali at the exact same instant the US was bombing Afghanistan a few hundred miles away, etc. Never had a lick of trouble, which is how the odds say it goes, even if I was in places where trouble was a bit higher than normal. If you happen to be the unlucky fuck who defies the odds and gets screwed, well, we'll feel sorry for you, and maybe even say you were stupid, but the bottom line is there's no such thing as a completely safe bet anywhere in the world, including at home. All of my above travels were contrary to State Department recommendations -- and right now they've got a general warning to all Americans travelling anywhere in the world (which is about as useless as can be) and a generic "be careful in South East Asia including Thailand" warning in the aftermath of the Bali bombings. If these concern you, don't go. I'm beginning to agree with Freeler that it's very probable that you shouldn't go at all anyway.

Maybe you should start by risking a trip to Canada so you can see that there aren't monsters waiting immediately outside of American borders.

SexReview
03-18-03, 23:50
Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
This is just my luck. My first trip to BKK is supposed to be at the beginning of April and now it looks as the war is going to break out (terrorist bombings like in Bali possible), plus now several of my friends have been sending me frantic emails about the outbreak of the unknown Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) and urging me to cancel my trip. This has been on the news a lot lately but I just don't know if it's worth cancelling my trip over. Any of my fellow hobbyist have any thoughts about this? Again, forgive me if this seems paranoid, just my first trip out of the country. [/i]

Johnnie Bravo,
It is your luck because you are making your first trip to a place unlike anywhere in the world. Your life and views will never be the same after Thailand. I too will be going to Thailand in April, my third trip over the last six months. My plane even as a two hour lay over in Hong Kong, before going onto Bangkok. I have not changed my plans at all. If you read the Bangkok Post no cases of SARS have been reported and confirmed in Thailand. Nine people have died in Hong Kong but that is only a little higher than the norm with several fu strains over the last few years. If you are in good health, I don’t see it as a problem.

About safety Bangkok is the second safest large city in the world following Singapore. Thailand needs tourism and the government will do everything within its power to protect tourism. What other country in the world has a police force just for the benefit of tourist? Your friends that have been emailing you have they ever been to Thailand? Most people really don’t know anything about Thailand but think that they do. Thailand is not what you read and see in the main stream media.

About hotels I would recommend that you stay at one of three places in Bangkok, all are girl friendly, close to the action and reasonable in price. I think everyone going to Thailand for the night life should try the Nana Hotel. I still stay at the Nana. I tried other places but overall it fits the bill well. The rooms are large, the restaurant is open 24 hours, the staff is great and 100 of girls all around you. Between Nana Disco (Angels Disco), Nana Entertainment Complex across the street and the hotel lobby, and the street outside the hotel you have more girls than you could ever want. So have said on this board that the rooms have a musty smell to them. Request a room in the newer wing and you will not have any problems. Right down the street is the Majestic Suites. The rooms are a little smaller but the hotel is newer and it is spotless. Marble floors in the rooms wood cabinets and a get staff. Also, just a two minute walk to Nana Entertainment Complex. If you want to save money go to the Crown Hotel, good size rooms and girl friendly. The Crown is about 600 baht per night, Nana and Majestic start at about 1000 baht per night.

Hope this information helps you with your trip.
Sexreview

JohnnieBravo
03-19-03, 00:04
Joe_Zop:

Thank you for your input. It looks as though I will be going anyway. The airline has informed me that I will loose the entire value of my ticket if I don't leave on my assigned date so I guess I'll be going as I don't see the risk is worth blowing all that money. The only exception to that is if the State Department or the World Health Organization steps in so I guess we'll see what happens. In any event, I guess I'm going to keep my passport appointment at the State Department tomorrow. I'll of course report back to the group regarding my trip. Thanks again everyone for your help.

Skinless
03-19-03, 00:05
Johnny B: First you are worried about food poisoning. Now it is Osama. Please buy a guide book and read warning reports by your government. You are going to Bagdad not Bangkok? Do you know how difficult it would be for Osama to blow up Soi 8? Of al the bars in all the worlds.. Remember H Bogart in Casablanca? Please stop worrying and stop posting these idiotic warnings and worries.

Joe Zop
03-19-03, 01:20
Just relax, man. People are going there every day, and there are 61 million people who live there without much more trouble than people have anywhere else. All you're going to do is make yourself stand out more obviously as a newbie, and thereby be a greater target for the few scam artists who wander about. Stop worrying and start getting excited, already! You're heading to a fabulous country.

Heck, I'll happily take your ticket if you don't want to go :)

JuiceSpike
03-19-03, 02:24
...I can't think of a better place to wait out the war than Bangkok or Samui... While the world has the jitters with war and terrorism you could be fucking your way through the mess we are in...

As far as terrorism in Thailand the odds are small but be on the guard... Thailand is definately a more safe place than any city in the US, Britain and other Euro countries...

I'm thinking of packing my bags and heading out...


juice.

SexReview
03-19-03, 04:03
Originally posted by juicespike
...I can't think of a better place to wait out the war than Bangkok or Samui...
juice.

Juicespike,

I agree with you, war or no was, fu or whatever I still am going to Thailand for my April trip. Thailand is a great place to be during the war that should start within a few days. For my own part I really hope many people stay away and that the clubs are dead as that just means more girls for me.
I have heard don't go to Thailand during high season, to many people, don't go to Thailand in the summer, too hot and too much rain. Don't go to Thailand after Sept 11th, don't go to Thailand after the bombing in Bali. Don't go to Thailand because everyone has aids, etc.
Far too many people are too quick to tell me why I shouldn't go to Thailand. They all share one thing in common. The people telling me this have never been to Thailand. If I listened to these people, I never would have gone to Thailand. But instead I will be leaving on my second trip this year to Thailand.
Well, within a few weeks I will be back in Thailand and on Pattaya Beach while these same people will still be here in the United States worried about nothing. Thailand is a great place and anytime you can find a few weeks or more to visit this wonderful country you should just do it.

Bamse1969
03-19-03, 04:22
Was in Bangkok some a weeks ago, and did hit it off with a young girl at soi22.

My friend introduced me to a young girl at soi22 – (the beer garden in the middle) – nice young lady called Pat, she was 25 years old, a nice comfortable girls to chat with, we have a lot of fun in the bar, she was excellent in 4-stripe (the game) and she taught me to play pool (honestly, never tried before).

After having some drinks and fun in the bar, it was almost closing time, so I asked if we should proceed to my room, to continue – she confirmed, I paid up the bar fine and we went to my hotel.

She was a bunch of nice smiles, a real GFE experience, so we sat in the room talking, before wanting shower (me first then her). She came into the bed – towel wrapped around her, but obvious she had a nice body, +B size breast and nice long legs.

She laid down next to me, we started to kiss and make out right there.

Allthough she didn't perform any blow job, she was very active, her hands running up and down, having a nice grip at my cock, making moves never seen before. Then she asked me to insert the member slowly (I did) and we started to fuck.

It was like a burning sensation (have you tried the hot-tea treatment in Singapore, you know the drill!!) and her tight little pussy was really making it worth the while, we did several positions, but my favorite was absolutely her on top, since her nice shaped breast was in sight and reach.

Finishing off by a nice doggie position (what an as) I finish of in the condom, we got rid of evidence and both fell a sleep at the bed.

Next morning (around 9.am) i was awakened by her, slowly giving my cock a hand job: she said she needed some more ?? And it turned into a nice good morning fuck, slowly and comfortable after a good nights sleep.

After being finished, I took shower and hit the buffet – brought her some fruits, she was still sleeping when I came back – which made her happy, we made arrangement for the next evening (second booking with her) – I paid up 50USD (May have been a little to much, but she had a good GFE approach, and what the heck, she was worth it).

Rating:
Body: Medium/Slim 25 Year old, nice long legs.
Breast: A little bit more than B-Cup
Service level: No Bj, but excellent with her hands, and nice tight pussy.

Returning: Yes – I have called her to make arrangement for her to stay with me for 4 days next week, since going for some R&R (and bizz) in Bangkok.

Dinghy
03-19-03, 04:49
sex - I'm having a hard time convincing mum and sis that no, there isn't a pneumonic plague developing in Thailand... maybe China or VietNam (not going there either) or that there is a possibility that if there is war I'm in danger... I'm trying to go 4/1 and return 4/20. Cheap trip

Freeler
03-19-03, 07:24
Joe_zop,

'I've been in Northern Ireland while The Troubles were in full swing'

So have I. Lovely country, people were nice! Just the sound of those Landrovers with the machine guns pointing at me were a bit hmmm.

'I'm beginning to agree with Freeler that it's very probable that you shouldn't go at all anyway.' Also 'a greater target for the few scam artists who wander about.'

All this agreeing is starting to confuse me...:confused:

Taodan
03-19-03, 08:00
If you are a newbie to BKK and stay at Nana Hotel and are planning to go to massage parlor(s) be aware of the old door man that works there. He might try to steer you to Mona Lisa massage parlor because he gets commission for bringing you there. While I stayed at Nana Hotel and was a newbie (and still newbie to BKK :-) I asked him where are the massage parlors, he immediately brought up Mona Lisa and started telling me that the girls at Mona Lisa are nice and don't have kid(s) yet. Whereas most bar girl(s) already have kid(s). And believe it or not, I did not go to any massage parlor(s) while I was in BKK. May be next time :-)

AsiaTraveler2
03-19-03, 12:14
Originally posted by taodan
If you are a newbie to BKK and stay at Nana Hotel and are planning to go to massage parlor(s) be aware of the old door man that works there ...

taodan;

Anyone in BKK, who tells you they know a good place or recommends a place, is getting a commission. That old man is just one of 1,000's of touts and taxi drivers who get paid for their "recommendations". It's a way of life in BKK. That same goes for regular tourist shows, taylor shops, places to eat, etc. etc. etc. Thai's are very nice people, but don't think for a moment, that any of them are recommending someplace out of the goodness of their heart. It's all about money! Buyer beware!

AT2

looking4fun120
03-21-03, 02:49
Heading to Bangkok for the first time.

Looking for any advise on ladies, costs, hotels etc.

Thanking all in advance for your help.

Duckman
03-21-03, 09:42
Thaipan,

I would appreciate it if you would send me a copy of the picture of Kung. I'm planning on checking out Eden next week. Thanks.

Duckman

Play3er
03-21-03, 09:52
JohnieBravo - I have just returned from a trip to BKK and stayed at the Royal Asia Lodge (due to budget constraints). It is not too bad with double bed, good air-con and clean toilet based on the price.

However, for hygiene purposes, would suggest that you bring your own towel and toiletries (don't get me wrong, they do provide these but it is not up to my standard of cleanliness and effective shampoo/shower gel). The girls can use the towels they provided and the toiletries :)

Overall, the hotel is really girl-friendly as they encounrage it with their signs ... plus the tuk-tuk to take you out to the main street and once you are at the beginning of Soi 8, you are within a short walk of the Nana BTS station. In addition, it is only about a 10 minute walk from the Nana plaza if you are alone. If you are with a girl then would suggest to take a cab so that both of you can conserve your energy doing other things :D

Hope the above helps ...

Joe Zop
03-21-03, 15:51
I've found play3er's comment regarding towels and toiletries to be true in any number of places in LOS -- I've usually got my own with me. And one small difference from an American perspective: we're used to finding small washcloths in hotels, but if you want one in Thailand you'd better bring your own.

See any cockroaches, play3er? :)

Sean_Double
03-21-03, 19:39
Regarding Bangkok Hotels.
The Federal Hotel on soi 11 is where I've stayed for the last 20 years on my BKK visits. Its VERY clean, has a nice pool, a very good restaurant, and is a very happy place.
The Federal is quite girl friendly and I've never heard of anyone having a problem in that regard. I would just advise politeness and a little discretion.
The Federal is across the street and about a block down from the Grand President and in my opinion its far superior although that's kind of an apple-orange comparison because the Federal is rather small. If you take the shortcut throught the Park Hotel's parking lot its about a 3 minute walk to the Beer Garden on soi 7 where some of the best all day pooning in BKK is available.
SD

Thaipan
03-22-03, 06:53
Originally posted by Duckman
Thaipan,

I would appreciate it if you would send me a copy of the picture of Kung. I'm planning on checking out Eden next week. Thanks.

Duckman

Sorry it is on my pc at home and I am still in the far east but you will not be disappointed, tell marc to allow Kung to select a friend for you, i think her name is Ang, she is a stunner too!

have fun, I did!

Thaipan

Thaipan
03-22-03, 06:57
Originally posted by looking4fun120
Heading to Bangkok for the first time.

Looking for any advise on ladies, costs, hotels etc.

Thanking all in advance for your help.

In BKK right now, Bar Fine in Nana Plaza is 500 baht and tip for girl for ST from 1000 - 1500 baht "up to you", for LT up to 2000 - 2500, I paid 2000 last night and it was the best I have ever had, got her from the Bus Stop bar in Soi 4. The BF there was only 300 baht but there is NO BF monday to thursday!!!

For a go go bar experience try Sexy Nights at NEP on the same floor as cat House, very small bar but great music and some very horny girls, I had a great night there last saturday, BF 500, tip 1500 Baht

Thaipan

Thaipan
03-22-03, 06:58
Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
taodan;

Anyone in BKK, who tells you they know a good place or recommends a place, is getting a commission. That old man is just one of 1,000's of touts and taxi drivers who get paid for their "recommendations". It's a way of life in BKK. That same goes for regular tourist shows, taylor shops, places to eat, etc. etc. etc. Thai's are very nice people, but don't think for a moment, that any of them are recommending someplace out of the goodness of their heart. It's all about money! Buyer beware!

AT2

100% right again AT2, keep your wits about you and never, ever go with the guys in the street offering "body massage"!

Thaipan

Play3er
03-22-03, 07:01
joe_zop - It must have been my lucky night cos there were none to be seen ... what time do they come out :) ?

thaipan - great to see you having a great time ...

Skinless
03-22-03, 07:05
Jackson, forgive me if I sound like a SA/Freeler hybrid:
1. Eden: that is virtual/real V popping porno: looks are not important. Fucking, sucking, fisting whatever is. Don;t ask for any more dumb photos. JUst go in, point your dick in the right direction and fuck them for 90 over priced minutes.
2. Hotels belong in hotel section (Miami sucks - that belongs everywhere).
3. Prices: Mmmm. Not worth it unless you happen to be stuck there with nothing better to do. The imposition of 600 bt bar fines has obviously trickled down so that basic prices are up across the board. Shop elsewhere is my recommendation.
4. Maybe Soi Suk is another Patpong in the making. Prices and shitty hotels (Miami) certainly make it look that way.
5. Toiletries: It is unreasonable to expect Thai hos to be hygienic. Always hide at least one towel.

BadbadHombre
03-22-03, 07:21
Planning my first trip to Bangkok in late April! Yeahhhhhhh!!! Would appreciate advise regarding the following:

- Kissing (I love it) - are all Thai girls open to it - french and non?

- Hotels - Any problems bringing girls back to the Landmark or JW Marriot?

Thanks for your help!

Philo
03-22-03, 11:40
I find this towel-discussion quite amusing. Do you bring your own washing machines too (or do you use the towel unwashed and germbreeding for 2-4 weeks)? If not, have you looked inside a thai laundry?

Thai girls are very hygienic (try to have one before she has shovered) and much more so than most farangs. On the other hand, nature is so made that if you kiss her, you venture into billions of oral bacterias. And if you go down on her ....... or put your tongue into that little cute fecal exhausting organic device .... (hehe)

Reminds me of a story from the book 'Mai Pen Rai means Never Mind' (a good one written by an american woman). In gatherings in the american society in BKK in the 60-70's they sprayed it with DDT(!) before eating thai food.

Germs make me immune and free !

ph

Skinless
03-22-03, 12:08
Towels: Philo, you seem to contradict yourself. Thai hos are hardly the most hygienic people in the world; their customers come in all shapes and sizes(!). They clean their pussies, mouths and butt holes with our towels, making the towels as unhygienic as their 3 holes. I have often had 3 or more ladies in the same day. Having a clean or even a dry towel has been a problem. They wipe their asses on the towels and cover the bathroom with my talcum powder, use my toothpase (brush is usually well hidden with a decoy brush left beside the toothpaste). Now I let them dry themselves off with their own clothes before giving them a pat on the ass and sending them on their way with a few well earned baht. I stand there naked until they go. That gives my dick breathing space and tells them to go buy their own toletries in the 7-11. Then I unpack my secret stash of towels and shower, happy that the deed is done and the chapter is closed.

A related problem is toilet paper. Always keep a stash away from them as they like to stock up on that too lest they be caught short while on hooker patrol (they remind me of LE the way they pound their beats). I see where they are coming from. They do provide a very useful function but I don't want the smell of their pussies on my face afterwards. Many years ago, just after my 13 cums a day phase, I once lost a date over that. I had spent the afternoon eating out an older woman and then went on a date without washing. The date was a bummer. She did not want to kiss a mouth that, only minutes earlier, had been up someone else's pussy. I saw her point. But I don't see yours.

Philo
03-22-03, 13:06
Skinless

1. Having n girls a day, call the housekeeper for an extra n-1 towels. With the 2 in the room, you have n+1: one for you, and one for each girl. If you care for hygiene it seems reasonable to start each new girl with a clean towel....

2. If you read more carefully below, you will se that one of the posts concerned whether or not the hotel-towel (in its unnused and supposedly clean condition) was adequate for body-drying.... not if you should use an already used towel.

3. Toiletpaper. On this I have no experience. I guess I will learn about this when I stop taking overpriced BKK-girls and go to Mae Sai... (which I will when going to CM next time).

I shall not comment more on the antiseptic theme ;-) Please forgive me ....

Freeler
03-22-03, 14:08
All,

'Toiletpaper.'

Toiletpaper is for sale in shops like 7-11 or AM-PM. Cheap rolls B4 the luxury, super soft, ever so lovely print etc is a massive B7.

I hope the presence of toothpaste, soap and shampoo in said shops doesn't scare you away.

Some of these shops have cockroaches too. Rats are usualy out back.

Peace:)

Skinless
03-22-03, 14:22
Freeler: you are being a naughty boy again. The toilet paper problem becomes acute when you have none of it. That is why the ladies stock up on it and one must ensure a supply of it. Do you use toilet paper? What about towels? (things Thai ladies use to clean their netherlands).

BTW Freeler, thought you didn't like Bkk. You better start talking it up or all your paradises will be overrun by lurkers et al. Not even the rats will stop em.

Freeler
03-22-03, 15:33
Skinless,

Since I'm the only one who responds to your ranting/sucking up or whatever it's supposed to be, here goes it, a whole bucket of thoughts:

I don't like BKK.

If the ladies 'stock up on it' you either GIVE it to them or they STEAL it.
Nobody steals from me...

'What about towels?'
An interesting question. Towels are usualy square or rectangular, often made of cotton. Towels are used to dry your wet body after a shower or bath. Towels are not meant for cleaning the floor, shooting your load in or wiping your ass.
Have a look at my recent 'toiletpaper'-post for the better ass-wipe alternative.
If you do use towels for these purposes you are:
1- recently divorced
2- an inmate at your local Penintentiary, no chance of probation
3- a 13 yo first time wanker
4- John Skinless
Combinations not excluded.

I normally bring one towel on every trip. I never lost one. My best towel probably traveled over 60,000 km with me, we've become a coalition:)

Well, Skinless, that's a BIG bucket to kick against. But you could just fill it up with water, add a B3 pack of OMO and start washing that towel.

Greetings and... Peace:)

looking4fun120
03-22-03, 16:08
Thaipan,

Thanks for your insight.

Thaipan
03-22-03, 16:21
Skinless,

I don't know where you have been in BKK but I have NEVER had a thai girl, bar girl or other wise that did not shower prior to doing the deed, never, they are very much more hygienic than any woman you will pick up in any bar in the USA or Europe, think before you put both feet into your mouth!

Thaipan on location BKK right now!

Skinless
03-22-03, 16:26
Flaming Freeler
I brought two (2) towels with me to LOS. I had to leave one in the shithole Miami Hotel as the management removed the towels when I went out in the morning. (Miami sux - even their soap is unusable, small packs like in a cheap restroom and no shampoo or anything else, what a shit heap).
I do use towels. That is the problem as the ladies (not me) fuck them up by wiping their asses/pussies/mouths/noses with them. That statement is based on sad experience and is logical (why should a ho care about you or your towel)? Am I the only one with this problem? Is there something about John Skinless that Thai hos feel compelled to use my towels and my towels only to clean their holes with? Is it a conspiracy?

Thaipan: I am not complaining about them showering. I am complaining about them using the towels, all of them. I am looking for a solution to this. Philo says get n+1 towels. But they will each use 2 towels or more. The only way is to have a secret stash of towels (and toilet paper).

In the past we have had people complaining about them raiding the mini bars but their abuse of the towels is, to me, a more serious problem. Oh well. Hope everyone is having a good war. Arab women are very beautiful. I still remember getting the breasts of a lovely Lebo maiden all those years ago. Now all I can think of is women f-g up my towels and toilet paper. No more Viagra for me I guess.

Freeler
03-22-03, 17:04
Thaipan,

'Thaipan on location BKK right now!'
Lucky you! Go fuck'em!

Skinless, 'the flamed and ridiculed one',

It is your lack of organization that gets you in trouble.
By now, you've traveled so much, that I would expect more 'senior' problems from you. Or solutions rather...
Not this minor league stuff:(
Your two towels remind me of this:
When you have two pens with you, you don't care if you lose one.
When you bring one in the first place, you won't lose it:).

'No more Viagra for me I guess.'
Are you saying your Viagra overdose gave you these delusions? Funny side effects:D!

'Is there something about John Skinless that Thai hos feel compelled to use my towels and my towels only to clean their holes with?' - Obviously: Y-E-S!
'my towels only' - You should have used BIG type:)
'Is it a conspiracy?' - Yes, A-L-L of them wanted you to leave and never to return:D.

Peace:)

Joe Zop
03-22-03, 17:07
ROTFLOL! This thread is hilarious, truly -- thanks for making my morning.

Skinless
03-22-03, 17:14
I bring 2 towels for a f-g reason: one is a dispenable spare and the other is one of those tap down things to use in Pattaya after I swim in the sewer.
Thank you for explaining the root (!) of this conspiracy to me. I guess the Viagra has something to do with it: drilling them for hours on end, no wonder thye want ot see me go and feel free to f up my towels (and steal my toilet paper).

BTW, I always carry plenty of pens. I hope they don't start using them too. And as for toothbrushes......

I will admit I am disorganized in many ways. But all I want is a clean towel that has not been up a TG's butt. Is that too much?

This might be Little League to you but to me a clean towel is important. That's why I suggested hiding them. I bring them to my room to bonk them, not to bugger up my towels.

Freeler
03-22-03, 17:46
Joe_zop,

Goodmorning!

Skinless,

Are you saying you bonk the towels, but you don't bugger them?:confused:
'Is that too much?' - For you: Yep!

Peace:)

Philo
03-22-03, 17:59
With due respect, Skinless...

Keep your towels and toiletpaper in the safe ....

If the room doesn't have one, empty the minibar, put in the towels and the toiletpaper, and tell the girl that the fridge is filled with evil spirits ...

If there is no minibar wrap your supply of towels and toilet paper up, and place it in a thread hanging outside the hotel window....

Just my humble peaceful advice.

ph

Dickhead
03-22-03, 18:07
After reading this discussion, I have two questions:

1). Do the rats ever use your towels?
2). Do the cockroaches ever use your toothbrush?

Dickhead

Skinless
03-22-03, 18:44
Philo: Thank you for your very good advice. I am glad that you too appreciate the importance of spare towels and a fat wad (of toilet paper).
Freeler: I am sorry you are making light of this problem. When they get into your bathroom, anything will happen. I bet they would stick your toothbrush up their asses/pussies or comb their pubes with it just for revenge. They like their little jokes too. And sometimes the joke is on you.
Dickhead: Good questions. Rats were a problem in some places, most notably in fuck central in Buriram where there is a space under the door. (12 Hos a callin at 3 am were also a problem. ) So keep no food.
Cockroaches pissing on your toothbrush (probably special forces sent by pissed off TGs to undermine morale) are also a problem but I vacuum seal my brushes and carry new, unopened ones with me. (I love my teeth and spare no expense there).

Rat's [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) is also very dangerous. Rhyle's disease I believe they call it. It can kill you. If in touch with a rat, always wash well afterwards. And use a clean towel.

BTW, when the TG is in the bathroom sticking your toothbrush up her pussy, put your wad (of cash) in the bottom of your backpack with your dirty underwear (and dirty towels) if you have any. Put her pay in one pocket, 20 bt in another and a bigger note in another. Also try to check her wallet for money and ID and photos to see who/what you are dealing with. If she emerges and asks for a clean towel, just play dumb. Another idea is to go on towel stealing expeditions which I have done in Sokal and other places. Did I say that the towels in Miami really sucked? Little things that even the TGs despised. No chance of getting an extra one in that shit heap. Oh well, time to bonk the wife and pretend she is little Lek (who was very unhygienic and might even be HIV+). I will wipe myself off on a towel after and pretend it is....

Freeler
03-22-03, 18:58
Philo,

I came to understand you would not comment on the antiseptic theme. You are a liar!

Dickhead,

Rats love towels. They have them for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Cockroaches tend to fuck the toothbrush, leaving you to think the toothpaste is already on it.
Cockroaches cum a lot! There was this clip on KaZaA a while ago, and its title 'Cockroach explosion' didn't cum out of the blue...

Skinless,

Why don't you join forces with our newbie friend JohnnieBravo.
You could lock yourselves up in your cockroach invested room, on a zero towel ration and wait for the rats to knock on the door.

I'm pretty sure it is Weil's disease. It goes to your brain and fucks it up badly.
In some patients no behavioural/IQ changes are found.
This is because the patients are a-typical, not the stain of Weil's causers:).

Philo
03-22-03, 19:08
Yep Freeler, you are right....

but I classify my post under logistics....

OK?

Dickhead
03-22-03, 19:45
I know you can eat the cockroaches and they make good soup, but what about the rats? Are they good eating? Cuz after they are slow from a good meal of towel, couldn't you spear them with a toothbrush and use it like a spit to roast the rat? Or does the cum on the toothbrush make them too slippery to use as spears?

Or would it be better to trap the rat in the bathroom after he eats the towel so you can use the towel again after he shits it out?

Freeler
03-22-03, 20:07
Dickhead,

In Thailand, when it moves, you can eat it. If it doesn't move, you can probably still eat it.

http://www.hrw.org/editorials/2002/nkorea-refugees.htm says:
' A former detainee in a North Korean logging camp described how prisoners survived, catching rats using shoes as traps, then roasting and eating them secretly.'

If the rats go in there at will, this means Skinless and JohnnieBravo have yet another thing to worry about, in their cockroach invested room without even a towel between them...

Some more funstuff here: http://www.urbanlegends.com/food/chinese_restaurant_rats_etc.html

Remember, the two Pilok rats are on the preservationlist!

Skinless
03-22-03, 20:23
I have just poked the wife. Price: standard in these parts; technique: yawn; bbbj: what?; does anal?: ha ha; technique: u think they have problems in Pattaya?. Overall assessment: grounds for divorce.

Freeler: you should know the difference between rural rats and urban rats. What the North Koreans or Burmese mean by rats is not what you see running around the food stalls of Bkk.

Maybe Jackson should open a pets' corner. I pity anyone looking for sex advice here. To the newbie who asked about French kisisng: of course they'll French kiss you. They'll rim your ass too. That's the cockroaches. But so will the women. Well they rim my ass anyway. Lousy job but someone has to do it. The lump in the next room won't; not enough money in it for her. I think I'll fuck her first thing in the morning. Just for badness.

Freeler, I just followed your rat links. Stewed rat knuckes? Johnny Bravo has a point.

JohnnieBravo
03-25-03, 22:56
I was just wondering what some of the more experienced campaigners on this board think about the mongering in the Philliphines Vs. Bangkok, which they think is better, and why? Have read lots of good stuff about Angeles City lately. Anyone care to share their experiences/opinions? Thanks!

Skinless
03-26-03, 03:08
Samus: I am amazed at your latest contribution. Shitheaps like the Miami apart, the problem generally, is not the cleanliness of the room but the cleanliness of the ladies. Generally it is the ladies who are low class not the rooms or indeed the towels. In fact, I feel worse about it when they stuff up good towels. You guy have been watching Pretty Woman reruns too much. Also many rural and Korat 150 bt rooms are excellent value for money but that should not give the ladies the right to launch a jihad on my towels. There is another point: money apart, I just don't like expensive hotels. Also, if I am booking a bonking hotel, I don't want to overpay. Overpay for the hotel and you will overpay for the lady. Overpaying in that way ain't classy: it is just stupid.

AsiaTraveler2
03-26-03, 14:17
Originally posted by JohnnieBravo
I was just wondering what some of the more experienced campaigners on this board think about the mongering in the Philliphines Vs. Bangkok, which they think is better, and why? Have read lots of good stuff about Angeles City lately. Anyone care to share their experiences/opinions? Thanks!

Johnnie;

They are both very good in their own ways, but they appeal to different people. Especially if you are talking about Angeles City in particular. The Phillipines is definitely cheaper, but like everything else in life you get what you pay for. The girls have a different look, so that will depend on your taste. Bangkok has far more girls than Angeles, and Manila is somewhere in between. The ratio of girls to guy's, though, is quite high in Angeles, since the number of guy's at any given moment is in the hundreds and not the thousands like Bangkok. Manila is more similar to Bangkok and Angeles is more like Pattaya, but that is just generalizing. The girls in the Phillipines generally have more baby fat compared to the girls in Bangkok, but there's enough variety to satisfy most. The average spent on a girl in Angeles is about $20-$40 in Angeles ($20 if you don't tip and $40 if you tip big), about double that range in Manila, and about $20-$75 in Bangkok. Bangkok and Manila have high end establishments, and Angeles does not. Bangkok has more tourist things to do during down time and more massage/soapie places. The girls in the Phillipines have a better grasp of english, so you can carry a conversation a bit easier. This is relative though, since you are not going to have very deep conversations in either country (not that it's very important for most guy's). I like the food much better in Thailand, and that covers Thai food as well as American or any other quisine for that matter. The girls are considered more friendly in the Phillipines, but I have always found better relationships in Bangkok. Some attribute that to my being Asian-American (Better accepted in BKK). Angeles is, to put it mildly ... a dump. It's strong points are the ratio of girls to guy's, cheaper price of the girl's, the party atmosphere (you can barhop very easy .. walk from bar to bar), it's very laid back environment, and it's size (just a few blocks of bars). The advantages to Bangkok are the girls are on average better looking, the food, the soapies, the greater variety of places to go, more hotel options, larger size (more places to see), less games .. you get what you pay for (In Angeles, girls will turn you down and in Bangkok cash is king). You should experience both. Since they do have two very different scenes, even though the basics .. bar fines, etc. generally work the same. I definitely prefer Bangkok.

AT2

Scott
03-28-03, 08:32
Just came back from LOS and had a brief observation that prices are generally lower by 500- 1000. That the girls were asking at NEP and surrounding bars. And also that the bars were alot less crowded after the war started. Had several girls tell me though they were either going home for a while or to other places. As Joy said to many girls and not enough customers. On a funny note had a girl freak out when I let a lizard go from my room when I had just bought her ants just an hour earlier maybe she thought it was going to eat here food source. Oh Girls at Nep were asking 1000- 2000 baht for Long time. Prices for bar girls and gogo's. Now I wish I was back. Will add this for those who like Annies Message #12 will bbjcim will do the deed without condom also. Joy at Rainbow2 real small girl older but does a real good job doesn't like overnite though. Pu at lollipops real young thight body also does a good job gets cold when it rains so AC at night is like a refrig to her. She's youong though still needs teaching but good overall. Stay away from the girl at the outside bar with bangs at Nana can't remember name. Good body good sex but doesn't bj.

Apac Boy
03-29-03, 13:01
went to Barons yesterday...didn't see my favorite so asked mamasan to pick one for me. chick wasn't that bad looking so off i went...shit, got the small room again...anyways, shitty massage but i guess i'm there for sex and not for the massage...sex was a lil bit better though.

paid my 1,500bht to the gurl and 600 for the 1.5 hrs...

also went to La Lunar last night but didn't see any working TG's...music was just bad trance so avoid this place. Orbit was right next door but since I was with good Thai's, didn't have a chance to go in.

going to lollitas after this...

tapioca

Rendorseg
03-29-03, 18:37
Dear Asiatraveler2
That was an excellent and balanced description but I was wondering how you'd contrast Malaysia/Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok, AC, and Manilla?
thanks
Rendorseg


Originally posted by Asiatraveler2
Johnnie;

They are both very good in their own ways, but they appeal to different people. Especially if you are talking about Angeles City in particular. The Phillipines is definitely cheaper, but like everything else in life you get what you pay for. The girls have a different look, so that will depend on your taste. Bangkok has far more girls than Angeles, and Manila is somewhere in between. The ratio of girls to guy's, though, is quite high in Angeles, since the number of guy's at any given moment is in the hundreds and not the thousands like Bangkok. Manila is more similar to Bangkok and Angeles is more like Pattaya, but that is just generalizing. The girls in the Phillipines generally have more baby fat compared to the girls in Bangkok, but there's enough variety to satisfy most. The average spent on a girl in Angeles is about $20-$40 in Angeles ($20 if you don't tip and $40 if you tip big), about double that range in Manila, and about $20-$75 in Bangkok. Bangkok and Manila have high end establishments, and Angeles does not. Bangkok has more tourist things to do during down time and more massage/soapie places. The girls in the Phillipines have a better grasp of english, so you can carry a conversation a bit easier. This is relative though, since you are not going to have very deep conversations in either country (not that it's very important for most guy's). I like the food much better in Thailand, and that covers Thai food as well as American or any other quisine for that matter. The girls are considered more friendly in the Phillipines, but I have always found better relationships in Bangkok. Some attribute that to my being Asian-American (Better accepted in BKK). Angeles is, to put it mildly ... a dump. It's strong points are the ratio of girls to guy's, cheaper price of the girl's, the party atmosphere (you can barhop very easy .. walk from bar to bar), it's very laid back environment, and it's size (just a few blocks of bars). The advantages to Bangkok are the girls are on average better looking, the food, the soapies, the greater variety of places to go, more hotel options, larger size (more places to see), less games .. you get what you pay for (In Angeles, girls will turn you down and in Bangkok cash is king). You should experience both. Since they do have two very different scenes, even though the basics .. bar fines, etc. generally work the same. I definitely prefer Bangkok.

AT2

joh0633
03-29-03, 22:58
I am hoping someone can tell me whether the following two hotels are known to be girl-friendly.

The Westin Grande Sukhumvit Hotel

or

The Royal Orchid Sheraton Hotel & Towers

Thanks so much!

AsiaTraveler2
03-29-03, 23:52
Originally posted by rendorseg
Dear Asiatraveler2
That was an excellent and balanced description but I was wondering how you'd contrast Malaysia/Kuala Lumpur to Bangkok, AC, and Manilla?
thanks
Rendorseg

Rendorseg;

Sorry, I can't remark on Malaysia/Kuala Lumpur .. have not had a chance to visit there. I do read alot of the other boards though, and consistently see Bangkok, Manila, and Buenos Aires ranked 1,2, and 3 (not necessarily in that order).

AT2

Dick Johnson
03-30-03, 05:10
Malaysia, KL does not compare to AC, BKK. Much higher prices and it is illegal. LT are also less common.

There is more selection though, from Thais to Indonesians to Mainlanders to Malays to Malaysain Chinese to Indians to Sri Lankans to Russians.

Prices and selection are somewhat similar to Singapore's. Less hassle in Sing since it is legalized. Though action is not hard to find in KL.

Dinghy
03-30-03, 12:02
so the Nana tour - I was surprised that "bottoms up" on the ground floor actually had bush inspection in the main stage - I thought nude shows are verboten. Also surprised that there are soooo many strip bars in one location (having been jaded by TJ this is a revolution) The rest of Nana was as described in the previous reports, just that if oyu haven't been here before YOU WON'T BELIEVE... kind of reminds me of the DejaVu ad "hundreds of pretty girls and 3 ugly ones" "Hello where you go?..." (FLs are out there) It gets interesting when the bars close about2:30A and they all change to civvies and take off for "home". Ah yes to be a young buck again... I shoulda come here on RnR from VN...

like madelene kahn said in Blazing Saddles "IT'S TWOO, IT'S TWOOO" all of it's twooo...

also - was in talking to the brit who owns Living Room last night (sat) and he indicasted that business was down AT LEAST 40% in the last 2 weeks. Curse you Sadomy Hussein! (but lower prices available - since the supply is and the demand is down, the prices are actually seeming reasonable

Dick Johnson
03-30-03, 15:49
You mean revelation("having been jaded by TJ this is a revolution")? Thinking of revolution ave.?

I was surprised the first time in Nana too. That U shaped building full of go go bars. Walking in you are enveloped by bars and girls. Quite a sight. No wonder Matt Dillion hangs out there.

I was chatting with this young Japanese guy at Rainbow or something and he'd lived in BKK for 3 months and all he did was go to Nana everyday lol.

DJ

The Traveler
03-30-03, 17:06
hi tap,

when going to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) take the same girl i had last time. you know that she can make you happy even if it takes long to do so -without complaining.

still have a great time over here, hope we can meet again.

AsiaTraveler2
03-31-03, 00:55
Originally posted by Dick Johnson
I was chatting with this young Japanese guy at Rainbow or something and he'd lived in BKK for 3 months and all he did was go to Nana everyday lol.

DJ

Reminds me of that age old question .. if you knew that you only had one month to live, what would you do? I guess a month in BKK would definitely be at the top of the list! lol

AT2

Dinghy
03-31-03, 04:40
Shark bar opened last PM in SoiCowboy. free food (thai luau - full roast pig on the spit) and a bunch of relatively nice girls - took a shine to a tall one - "tum" (as in "toom")

20yo REALLY nice body relative skill lacking, relative dishrag in bed (fun in the shower though), all business. and after 15 minutes rolled off and wanted to go back so I gave her 600 (unhappy "short time 1000" but when the customer doesn't come let alone first...little brother sleepy...) plus 40 cabfare - she can go get another BF later. Might be 20 but had been working Nana a few years she said. barfine is 500 like all the rest.

Except that it's 20 hours to get here this place is paradise

gave the URL for the forum to 2 brits (1 lives here) who were happy to get it so more readers

finally not jetlagged - only took 3 days

AT2 - If I tried to go for my last 30 days in BKK, I'd die in 10 <grin>

damn, its a b i t c h when you get older...

Loafer
03-31-03, 06:46
Back from my first solo trip to Thailand, and I am nursing my Post-Bangkok-Blues…and I am not the pale novice who almost faints at first sight of an Asian beauty (I normally post on the China boards).

I only had 3 days and nights, and thanks to the info on this board I had a really good time. Had a soapy, was at Eden’s, went to Baron’s (twice, was great), browsed trough Nana, had a barber shop pampering, and hired a sweetie from the Long Gun for two consecutive nights. The bird hardly spoke any English, but she was trying very hard to pass her verbal messages to me. Her physical messages came through though without any problems. In one word, it was heaven. She wanted more boom-boom than I could deliver, being half my age and me not on Viagra. If wetness is an indicator for a woman’s level of pleasure, this girl really enjoyed what she did. I consider myself an experienced player in that game, who pays a woman to make her leave the next morning, but this Thai baby made me weak. If that is Thai professionalism, the country is actually wasting a lot of talent.

For the record: I never discussed money with her, just slipped 1500 baht into her handbag the next morning (or afternoon, rather).

Stayed in the Grand President. Good value and conveniently located.

I went to Poseidon for the soapy, and that is the only thing I would do differently on my next trip: It’s a pain in the neck to get there from the Sukhumvit area, took me a 90 minutes cab ride in the rain. And the service I got there was relatively uninspired. After my experiences in Macau I had actually expected something similar or better, but it wasn’t. Perhaps I was just unlucky to choose the wrong girl. I was charged the 2500 Farang price. The manager wouldn’t budge, and because it was raining I didn’t want to shop around. Next time I will go somewhere else. And the massage at Baron’s more than compensated.

Thanks again guys for the great info. The Bangkok board rocks!

Final words: I am almost glad that I can’t go to Bangkok more often. I am sure it must be tough to stay sane if you are there on a regular basis.

Dlite_me
03-31-03, 14:01
nice post loafer.....my turn now

also came back from my lone trip to BKK.....but I got burned twice

got sold fake penagra..went to the "KS Pharmacy" that I saw a posting on this board....blister pack of 4..650 baht...they tried to sell me viagra, 4 , for 1700 baht...

anyway...asked them to cut the pills in half....tried it on two different days.....duds...nuttin happen

next bomb....."Emmanuelle"...now since this was my first soapy experience...I was sort....of dazed...like a deer stuck in the middle of the road staring at headlights....

I guess the dude there saw this...and I was quickly shown the "Model" section....he told me 2900 baht for 1.5 hours. I thought it was a little expensive..compared to Hi-class/Nataree (which I checked out first)..but the girl they reommended was really cute...so against my better judgemnet...I thought I'd splurge. I thought the higher cost would mean better bang (boy was I wrong)But she was really pretty..say 5'7...light skin...slim body..c-cup..small ass

in the elevator ride up...my "Early Warning B***h Alarm" was going off in my head...her body language told it all.

We get to the "VIP" room, she quickly turns on the TV...and plops down on the couch. the maid comes in and prepares the bath tub. The maid asked me if I wanted a drink, I said, "yes, water" (bad move)..the maid comes back with 2 glasses and one small bottle of water for 75 baht.

anyway as we wait for the tub to fill (which seemed like half an hour) I try to talk to her....but most of the time she stared at the TV.

her name is "Nom", "Non" or soemthing...18 y.o. (aren't they all) from Bangkok (really?)..been working there for 2 months (hmmmm..)

finsihed soapy and on to the bed.....where she skips the oral part and proceeds to mount me. But I stop her and say I want a BJ. She sighs and rolls her eyes..and complies...but it was so mechanical. At this point I just want to bust a nut and get out of there.

Then the sex part was even worse....she had her arms folded against her chest the whole time..(wow at least fake that your interested). No tip.

The only smart thing I did was that I didn't tip the guy who recommended the girl..even though he asked for one at the counter...

If Any of the more experience people could enlighten me on what I did wrong or what I should do next time??